[12:27] (Bisclaveret/#ubuntu) i'm using ubuntu 4.10 warty currently. the other thing is that my backup for win2kpro i have, i found out i didn't do right, and forgot to make it bootable as well. nice way to figure that out when your sister's boyfriend starts playing with the circuitbreakers and shuts power to the computer when your defragging :p
[12:27] (pfp/#ubuntu) exactly, once you get past that dev= phase and the frustration from the fact that -scanbus doesn't work...
[12:27] (synd/#ubuntu) LinuxJones: i installed gdesklets-data too
[12:27] (Bisclaveret/#ubuntu) heh
[12:27] <cthulfuego> pfp: Well, dev=/dev/hdc it is, then.
[12:28] <pestilence> pfp: why doesn't -scanbus work?
[12:28] <ChrisCF> Anyone know a decent DVD recording tool that doesn't require me to find 5GB of free HD space before writing the disc?
[12:28] <pestilence> pfp: i thought that even for atapi cdroms you could do something like cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus
[12:28] <pfp> wtf, since when has dev=/dev/hdc worked?
[12:29] <pfp> pestilence: i didn't bother to find out, after i found k3b :)P
[12:29] <pestilence> hehe
[12:29] <pestilence> k3b is nice.
[12:29] <ChrisCF> Anyone at all know of one?
[12:29] <pestilence> ChrisCF: growisofs
[12:29] <pfp> ChrisCF: btw, if you can afford the kde libs, k3b can burn on the fly
[12:29] <concept10> Are any true type fonts in the repos?
[12:30] <mcquaid> i thought latest baker could burn on the fly and supports bin/cue
[12:30] <ChrisCF> pfp: If by that you mean "it doesn't need 5GB of HD space per disc", then I can probably afford the space
[12:30] <pfp> ChrisCF: trust me ;)
[12:31] <cthulfuego> Well, k3b uses cdrecord.
[12:31] <ChrisCF> well, this is kind of important
[12:31] <pestilence> ChrisCF: are you trying to make a data dvd?
[12:31] <ChrisCF> yes
[12:32] <ChrisCF> I'm stuck on a 6.4GB HD
[12:32] <pestilence> ChrisCF: definitely check out growisofs.
[12:32] <Bisclaveret> um. that's odd
[12:32] <ChrisCF> so writing 5GB image file is not really an option
[12:32] <pfp> ChrisCF: of course you need a little more horsepower to skip the image creation phase, no matter what program you use
[12:32] <Bisclaveret> i can't eject my cdrom drive with the eject button on the case
[12:32] <mcquaid> i checked checked the latest cvs checkout of gnomebaker support on the fly and bin cue
[12:32] <mcquaid> which is what hoary uses
[12:32] <pestilence> ChrisCF: growisofs doesn't require any extra space.
[12:32] <mcquaid> er i just checked
[12:32] <pestilence> Bisclaveret: that's because it's mounted.
[12:33] <pestilence> Bisclaveret: right click on the icon on the desktop and click unmount or eject.
[12:33] <ChrisCF> pfp: Will a Duron 850 and a 4x DVD recorder cut it?
[12:33] <ChrisCF> (RAM+swap = 600MB)
[12:34] <pfp> ChrisCF: i think so
[12:34] <thechitowncubs> Is it possible to resize an NTFS partition?
[12:34] <ChrisCF> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO1
[12:34] <pestilence> thechitowncubs: yes.
[12:34] <ChrisCF> More fucking ringtone adverts
[12:34] <cthulfuego> ChrisCF: You can always burn at 2X.
[12:34] <Bisclaveret> hrm. works
[12:35] <Bisclaveret> actually, i typed eject in a terminal
[12:35] <ChrisCF> cthulfuego: That'll do - it's not like I've got anything better to do for an hour :)
[12:35] <pestilence> Bisclaveret: that works too
[12:35] <Madeye> 0 */1 * * * every hour ?
[12:35] <pfp> Madeye: yep
[12:35] <pestilence> why the /1
[12:36] <pestilence> * would work just fine.
[12:36] <pfp> good point
[12:36] <kangpeh> Hey guys ;)
[12:36] <Madeye> pestilence,  0 * * * * == 0 */1 * * * ?
[12:36] <thechitowncubs> Does the Installer have a NTFS resizer
[12:36] <kangpeh> I got 2 powerful questions that I hope to find the answers to.
[12:36] <pestilence> Madeye: yes.
[12:36] <kangpeh> 1) How can I have different backgrounds on my virtual desktop?
[12:37] <ChrisCF> Yuck.  All the text is so huge
[12:37] <kangpeh> 2) You know when choosing a background, there is an image preview.  How can I have that image preview in the FireFox upload/file chooser dialog box?
[12:37] <ChrisCF> Normally I have trouble with small text, but this is just *too* big
[12:37] <cthulfuego> kangpeh: 1) With a little script and xsetroot.
[12:37] <Bisclaveret> i'm assuming K3B won't work on ubuntu :/
[12:37] <Seveas> 1) Not
[12:37] <seth_k> kangpeh: or switch to KDE :D
[12:37] <Seveas> Bisclaveret, it will
[12:37] <ChrisCF> Bisclaveret: Why?
[12:37] <pfp> ChrisCF: kcontrol allows you to tweak kde apps' fonts etc
[12:37] <kangpeh> I can't use KDE... it's too slow :(
[12:37] <^thehatsrule^> Bisclaveret: it can
[12:37] <cthulfuego> Seveas: liar!
[12:37] <Seveas> 2) neither
[12:37] <kangpeh> My box is only AMD AthlonXP 2000; it can't handle KDE:(
[12:37] <Seveas> cthulfuego, enlighten me :0
[12:37] <seth_k> kangpeh: O_O
[12:37] <Seveas> :)
[12:37] <pestilence> bahahahahahaha
[12:38] <Bisclaveret> Seveas: there's no sources for non-KDE 3.0, and theres no debian binaries or apt gets for anything beyond woody/sarge :/
[12:38] <seth_k> kangpeh, I'm running Kubuntu on a 2000+ right now... I've run it on a 400MHz box!
[12:38] <kangpeh> And I'm just too comfortable with Gnome O_O
[12:38] <ChrisCF> pfp: Yes, but that means going and getting the rest of fucking KDE :P
[12:38] <pestilence> kangpeh: kde runs ok on my celeron 300 mhz
[12:38] <thechitowncubs> Does the Installer have a NTFS resizer
[12:38] <kangpeh> seth_k:  O_O
[12:38] <cthulfuego> Seveas: You can rotate through a bunch of backgrounds in a directory via a bash script and xsetroot.
[12:38] <kangpeh> seth_K:  why is it slow for me then T_T
[12:38] <Seveas> Bisclaveret, k3b is in ubuntu
[12:38] <ChrisCF> Why are there always so many Germans in the credits of KDE programs?
[12:38] <seth_k> kangpeh... it's smoking fast
[12:38] <kangpeh> seth_K:  but gnome is crazy fast :O
[12:38] <Seveas> cthulfuego, read the question again please...
[12:38] <kangpeh> when i click on firefox
[12:38] <kangpeh> it pops up in an instant in gnome
[12:38] <gahan> i've successfuly bind my multimedia keys but they dont work well. for ex. they cant run opera which is my default browser according to /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser or they wont skip tracks in xmms. they arent for use with xmms?!
[12:38] <kangpeh> when i click on firefox in kde
[12:38] <^thehatsrule^> lol ChrisCF :P
[12:38] <kangpeh> it takes like 5-10 seconds
[12:38] <seth_k> heh
[12:38] <Seveas> he said: different backgrounds on differnet Virtual Desktops
[12:38] <cthulfuego> Seveas: Stop confusing me with your logic!
[12:38] <seth_k> no idea
[12:38] <pfp> lol
[12:39] <cthulfuego> Seveas: Write a handler that switches backgrounds when you switch desktops? ;-)
[12:39] <cthulfuego> Seveas: He didn't ask for a _simple_ solution ;-)
[12:39] <Seveas> grin :)
[12:39] <pestilence> thechitowncubs: yes, it does
[12:40] <cthulfuego> kangpeh: AN Athlon2000+ runs kd just fine, btw. Unless you have 128Mb ram.
[12:40] <seth_k> haha, pwn
[12:40] <ChrisCF> Where in k3b is the "don't whore my HD space" option?
[12:40] <Bisclaveret> seveas: where?
[12:40] <pestilence> thechitowncubs: when you install you can change the size of ntfs partitions
[12:40] <Seveas> ChrisCF, it's called aptitude uninstall k3b :)
[12:40] <cthulfuego> ChrisCF: When you go to burn, there's an option to not make an iso first.
[12:40] <transgress> ChrisCF: use on the fly
[12:40] <bobbyd> hi, I have a weird situation. I added a group and added my user to it, but after logging out and in again, i dont see it when I type 'groups'. If i run 'sudo groups rob' I can see it. Anyone know what's going on here?
[12:40] <Seveas> Bisclaveret, simply apt-get install k3b
[12:40] <transgress> yeah that not to make an iso first is on the fly i believe
[12:40] <ChrisCF> lol, lol, and fucking lol :)
[12:41] <Bisclaveret> Reading Package Lists... Done
[12:41] <Bisclaveret> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[12:41] <Bisclaveret> E: Couldn't find package k3b
[12:41] <kangpeh> :(
[12:41] <Seveas> Bisclaveret, enable network downloads...
[12:41] <kangpeh> what do you guys use
[12:41] <kangpeh> Gnome or KDE
[12:41] <Seveas> Gnome
[12:41] <^thehatsrule^> i use fluxbox
[12:41] <^thehatsrule^> :P
[12:41] <Seveas> and sometimes XFCE
[12:41] <^thehatsrule^> faster than all :P
[12:41] <cthulfuego> kangpeh: That's not relevant to your issue.
[12:41] <transgress> this is #ubuntu... so it's going to be overwhelmingly gnome in here
[12:41] <kangpeh> is KDE better than Gnome, please explain what multimedial/looks benefits/ USE/features i will get
[12:41] <kangpeh> to using KDE, please
[12:41] <transgress> but if you go to #kubuntu it'll be different
[12:41] <kangpeh> because for me hte most important is ease of use, good looks, benefits, features, etc...
[12:41] <transgress> kangpeh: it's a matter of taste
[12:41] <Seveas> kangpeh, it's mainly a matter of taste
[12:41] <^thehatsrule^> kangpeh, just look on the net for lists of them
[12:42] <^thehatsrule^> really
[12:42] <cthulfuego> kangpeh: You'll get the option of puttubng didfferent backgrounds on different virtual desktops.
[12:42] <kangpeh> o_o
[12:42] <pfp> kangpeh: kde is good if you want to tune, tweak and knob around
[12:42] <[FiDO] > gnome is simple but gets the job done
[12:42] <transgress> gnome... simple?  HA!
[12:42] <^thehatsrule^> nah, gnome has a lot of features too
[12:42] <kangpeh> i am likin gnome though
[12:42] <transgress> blackbox is simple... or better... ion
[12:42] <kangpeh> my gnome desktop looks exactly like macOSx lol
[12:42] <[FiDO] > simple looking I meant
[12:42] <^thehatsrule^> kde is more eye-candy than anything
[12:42] <gahan> i've successfuly bind my multimedia keys in GNOME but they dont work well. for ex, i cant run opera which is my default browser according to /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser or i cant skip tracks in xmms; bindings for next/prev song arent for use with xmms?
[12:42] <transgress> eh probably not exactly... kde can do the cool toolbar at the top of the screen thing like OSX... i don't recall gnome being able to do that
[12:43] <Bisclaveret> seveas: how do you do that?
[12:43] <Seveas> bisclaveret: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:43] <Seveas> bisclaveret: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[12:44] <Bisclaveret> i enabled all the repositories once from that beginners guide, and then had a bunch of people tell me 90% of them were unneeded and then they broke me. heh
[12:44] <ChrisCF> ah, it uses growisofs
[12:44] <[FiDO] > has anyone else found the marillat repositories haven't been working
[12:44] <Seveas> Bisclaveret, eeek ubuntuguide
[12:44] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is bad news
[12:44] <Seveas> [FiDO] , yes, they are malfunctioning
[12:44] <Seveas> and should not be used
[12:44] <pfp> gnome vs. kde: http://bulbasaur.ton.tut.fi/echramath/misc/desktop_enviroments/
[12:45] <DanielC> Hello. Is there a way to restart the internet connection without rebooting the whole computer? (Broadband-Cable, DHCP).
[12:45] <[FiDO] > I'm going to remove them from my list I'm tired of getting the dumb warnings
[12:45] <Seveas> DanielC, ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
[12:45] <tombraun> Or /etc/init.d/networks restart
[12:45] <DanielC> Seveas: Thanks!
[12:45] <TokenBad> hello...I am using pureftpd on here and want to allow people to upload files to the dir..but they can only download..and tried to find the pure-ftp.conf file without luck..any help?
[12:46] <tombraun> Does anyone here have any experience with the 'devilspie' utility?
[12:46] <Seveas> tombraun, that is: invoke-rc.d networking restart
[12:46] <Seveas> TokenBad, dpkg -L pureftpd
[12:46] <tombraun> Seveas: STrange, works for me the other way as well.
[12:46] <Seveas> tombraun, of course it does :)
[12:46] <Seveas> but invoke-rc.d is the prferred way
[12:47] <TokenBad> Seveas, what does that do?
[12:47] <tombraun> Seveas: I'm still very new to ubuntu (and debian), so I don't know all the preferred ways...  :-)
[12:47] <Seveas> TokenBad, merely call /etc/init.d/networking but invoke-rc.d is a guaranteed stable interface whereas the internals might change
[12:48] <tombraun> devislpie, anyone? It gives me a weird error message, and I was wondering if someone could help.
[12:48] <mcquaid> anyone know of a gnome panel applet to show drive space similar to the xfce panel plugin?
[12:48] <TokenBad> ok it pulled stuff up on pure-ftpd
[12:48] <TokenBad> but doesn't show the conf file
[12:48] <mcquaid> i really like that feature, and was hoping there is something similar
[12:49] <Efwis> pfp, that is an apt description of the two desktops :) eye candy or utilization which is more important
[12:49] <Seveas> TokenBad, /etc/pureftpd.conf oslt
[12:49] <TokenBad> its not there
[12:49] <Seveas> TokenBad, /etc/pure-ftpd.conf oslt
[12:49] <Seveas> or maybe it's all in /etc/defaults/pureftpd and the initscript
[12:49] <Seveas> read the docs in /usr/share/doc/pureftpd or the pureftpd manpage...
[12:52] <ubun> Anybody use Ubuntu for music production?
[12:52] <ubun> What is the best distro for that?
[12:53] <ninwa> Mac OS X
[12:53] <ninwa> :P
[12:53] <kvidell> lol
[12:53] <lydon> can anyone tell me how I can set my wireless card to be automatically enabled on boot?  right now I have to activate it everytime I reboot
[12:53] <karlos> i use ubuntu for music production
[12:53] <ninwa> lydon are you using ndiswrapper?
[12:54] <lydon> ninwa: I'm not sure?  probably not.
[12:55] <karlos> re: music production I think it's starting to get there
[12:55] <bobbyd> please, does anyone have any ideas, I'm completely at a loss to understand what's going on
[12:56] <ninwa> Oh, if you arn't sure then no. No big deal. I don't know exactly, but I think you need to add a line to your Aliases in /etc/modeprob.d/ - someone PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.
[12:56] <ninwa> modprobe*
[12:58] <anto9us> ubun: I've played about with soundtracker in ubuntu, it's quite good
[12:58] <ninwa> I like audacity, but I havn't done much with it and I'm not an audiophile.
[12:58] <ninwa> It seems capable.
[12:59] <lydon> ahh......... very good work ninwa
[12:59] <lydon> thank you
[12:59] <ninwa> Rock on lydon :)
[12:59] <TokenBad> Seveas, any idea why ftp users might not be able to upload files to the ftp?
[01:01] <ninwa> Woohoo update on Gaim today in the ubuntu repositories! We get 1.1.4 now boys!
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[01:01] <synd> oo the ubuntu cds are nice lookin
[01:01] <ninwa> Realy? I ordered some two days ago, still waitin on em
[01:01] <^thehatsrule^> ya they are eh synd--
[01:01] <synd> i ordered some 3 months ago :/
[01:02] <synd> i got 20, 15 x86, 5 ppc
[01:03] <cut0ff> Hi all
[01:04] <synd> uhh im booting into the ubuntu live cd in PPC, and the screen is split in half down the middle
[01:05] <synd> anyone experience this?
[01:05] <kvidell> .............
[01:05] <kvidell> when'd THAT get turned on
[01:06] <deviant> is there any wauy i can set up ICS on my pc, without having Firestarter run all the time ?
[01:06] <deviant> *way
[01:06] <Burnninator> Anyone know how to get an orinoco based wireless card working?
[01:07] <Burnninator> cardctl ident sees it
[01:07] <synd> Burnninator: make sure youre eth0 internal nic is deactivated
[01:08] <transgress> man i've come to a conclusion
[01:08] <transgress> i can A) have a job
[01:08] <Burnninator> how do i go about that? I pulled the ethernet card out of the pcmcia slot
[01:08] <transgress> or B) have a girlfriend
[01:08] <Burnninator> the only one in there is the 2wire wireless card
[01:08] <transgress> i can't do both
[01:09] <karlos_> so who does use buntu for music then
[01:09] <karlos_> anyone?
[01:09] <Burnninator> synd, what do i use to configure the wireless card
[01:09] <Burnninator> ?
[01:09] <synd> karlos_: xmms, rhythmbox
[01:09] <transgress> it's like... before i was going out with this last girlfriend... was doing awesome at work... got her... started lagging behind... broke up last night... already pretty much cleared up my work for today... and i've only been working for an hour
[01:10] <synd> karlos_: beep media player.. a few others.
[01:10] <cthulfuego> deviant: Yes, it's a matter of one single iptables rule and a sysctl.conf entry.
[01:10] <karlos_> what about making music?
[01:10] <anto9us> karlos_: soundtracker
[01:10] <anto9us> I've used it, it's great
[01:10] <Burnninator> if i type iwconfig, all it says is "no wireless extensions" next to lo, wlan0, and sit0
[01:10] <karlos_> cool just been getting into sountrascker
[01:11] <karlos_> got rose garden sorted now
[01:11] <deviant> cthulfuego: could you be more explicit pls. (i`m newbie)
[01:11] <cthulfuego> deviant: Which device is your internet link?
[01:12] <deviant> eth0 using pppoe connection
[01:12] <cthulfuego> deviant: So ppp0
[01:13] <deviant> so i have eth0, eth1 , loopback and ppp0
[01:14] <ChrisCF> Grr.  Steven Seagull film on the telly
[01:14] <cthulfuego> deviant: Ok, as root: echo -e "#!/bin/sh\n/sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE" > /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/0masq; chmod 755 /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/0masq
[01:15] <ChrisCF> Seagull as in everywhere he goes he leaves a trail of shit behind him
[01:15] <deviant> holly shit ....
[01:15] <deviant> cthulfuego: hold on ..i want to understand why i am doing all that stuff ..
[01:15] <cthulfuego> deviant: You *did* want a simple wau
[01:15] <synd> anyone have video problems with the LiveCD in ubuntu?
[01:15] <synd> my screen is split in half
[01:16] <synd> and the image is mirrored
[01:16] <cthulfuego> deviant: That creates an executable script which will be run when pppoe connects. The script adds a firewall rule which masquerades outgoing traffic (ICS, basically).
[01:17] <deviant> cthulfuego: and the firewall rules is what ?
[01:17] <DarkWolf> While installing, I got an error, which i thought was... rather.. strange... It said i had burnt the CD with too high speed, and i should try to burn it at a lower speed, is 12x too much then?
[01:17] <cthulfuego> deviant: The firewall rule is "-t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE"
[01:18] <cthulfuego> deviant: Oh, shit. Error!@
[01:18] <synd> wtf!
[01:18] <cthulfuego> deviant: Ok, as root: echo -e "#!/bin/sh\n/sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE" > /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/0masq; chmod 755 /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/0masq
[01:18] <ChrisCF> WTF?
[01:18] <deviant> cthulfuego: where can i find a good tutorial about pppoe connection, iptables and  maquerading. i need to understand all this
[01:18] <cthulfuego> deviant: Forgot the '-o ppp0'
[01:18] <Burnninator> im reading instructions from the ubuntu wiki, and it says
[01:18] <Burnninator> To see if your card is working goto Computer->System Configuration->Networking
[01:18] <ChrisCF> There's such an error as "you burned this CD too quickly"?
[01:18] <cthulfuego> deviant: /usr/share/doc/iptables/html
[01:18] <microhaxo> guys i need major HELP installing WINE!
[01:18] <Burnninator> but i don't see System configuration under Computer
[01:19] <ChrisCF> how does the speed at which you burn a CD affect the data you burn/
[01:19] <DarkWolf> i have NO idea... but that's what it says.. right here..
[01:20] <anto9us> Burnninator: it's System | Administration | Networking
[01:20] <Burnninator> thanks
[01:20] <DarkWolf> "Couldn't retrieve libreadline4. This may be due to a network problem or a bad CD, depending on your installation method. If you are installing from a CD-R or CD-RW, burning the CD at a lower speed may help."
[01:20] <cthulfuego> deviant: And in addition to that script you need to have a line that says net.ipv4.ip_forward=1  in /etc/sysctl.conf to let the kernel know it should route packets.
[01:22] <deviant> cthulfuego: where can i find the iptable file? i wanna take a look at it
[01:23] <DarkWolf> i've tried to format HD again, and restart, but same error... and it's a compleatly new CD, from a compleatly new download, today, from Ubuntu's own page...
[01:24] <deviant> cthulfuego: with what aplication can i edit iptables?
[01:24] <Burnninator> alright, under network settings, it doesn't list my wireless card
[01:25] <Burnninator> any suggestions?
[01:25] <DarkWolf> installed drivers for it?
[01:25] <deviant> lol
[01:26] <Koaesica> at documentation page, can I view all howtos or tutorials?
[01:26] <thenuke> deviant: I am pretty sure that you want to install firestarter
[01:27] <nalioth> deviant: try this http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[01:27] <deviant> thenuke: now i`m using it. but i`m not confortable with it runing all the time
[01:28] <thenuke> is that not just a frontend?
[01:28] <nalioth> deviant: that newsforge article goes over serveral iptables manglers
[01:28] <deviant> thenuke: from what i`ve understood, yes, it is.
[01:28] <deviant> nalioth: thank you
[01:29] <thenuke> deviant: yeah, it should not be hangin' around then. But check that url what nalioth gave
[01:29] <moparfan90> hello
[01:29] <uman> y0
[01:30] <moparfan90> anyone have cedega installed on there computer
[01:30] <deviant> thenuke: i`m workin` on it :)
[01:30] <uman> Google is down
[01:30] <uman> how the fuck could google
[01:30] <uman> be down
[01:31] <deviant> thenuke: but 1st i need to understand how iptable and masquerading works
[01:31] <moparfan90> no its not
[01:31] <uman> it is here
[01:31] <thenuke> deviant: google for that
[01:31] <deviant> is workin fine from here
[01:31] <uman> lucky
[01:31] <uman> I have to use MSN search
[01:31] <thenuke> and you really do not need to know that to use some front-ends..
[01:31] <deviant> thenuke: i`m curently reading /usr/share/doc/iptables/html/NAT-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.1
[01:32] <Zodiac> Sup dawgs
[01:32] <thenuke> if you figure out how iptables work, you should not use front-ends
[01:32] <thenuke> because it is not that complicated
[01:32] <deviant> thenuke: i know. but i`m a newbie. i don`t have any experience on linux
[01:33] <Zodiac> Guys I have totem and I can play DVDs.... but
[01:33] <thenuke> yup. iptables is not linux :)
[01:33] <Zodiac> It is really choppy and weird
[01:33] <Zodiac> what is the dilly-O
[01:33] <Zodiac> ??
[01:33] <nalioth> Zodiac: have you enabled DMA?
[01:33] <djm62> it's snoop dogg's web browser
[01:34] <Zodiac> DMA?
[01:34] <Zodiac> I think there is some code I have to add to some file
[01:34] <Zodiac> I remember someone telling me that, but I didnt think I needed it at first
[01:34] <synd> Zodiac: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[01:35] <cthulfuego> !dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-)
[01:35] <ubotu> cthulfuego: okay
[01:35] <Zodiac> Okay I did it
[01:36] <Zodiac> Now what? :)
[01:36] <nalioth> Zodiac: now it should be less choppy
[01:36] <synd> now it shouldnt be choppy
[01:36] <synd> cant remember the cmd to add that to the boot process
[01:37] <Zodiac> Excellent
[01:37] <cthulfuego> synd: Just install hdparm and editing /etc/default/hdparm should do.
[01:37] <Zodiac> I hope you are right :)
[01:39] <jabra_> I am trying to figure out what module is needed for us robotics 2410 with kernel 2.6.10
[01:39] <Zodiac> Another weird problem, sometimes when I right click on files on my desktop, it locks up
[01:40] <ubun> Anybady knows what we select in the window: MULTIMEDIA SYSTEM SELECTOR?
[01:41] <anto9us> ubun: I have ESD on mine
[01:42] <Zodiac> Any ideas?
[01:42] <caonex> anybody running a dhcp server?
[01:43] <HrdwrBoB> yeah
[01:43] <ubun> A little confused having ALSA and not select ALSA, isn't it?
[01:43] <HrdwrBoB> udhcpcd
[01:43] <HrdwrBoB> er
[01:43] <HrdwrBoB> udhcpd
[01:43] <HrdwrBoB> ubun: only if you know what alsa is
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> and nto esd
[01:44] <ubun> Almost all the cards suing the ALSA drivers...
[01:44] <ubun> Almost all the cards use the ALSA drivers...
[01:44] <jr0129> i have a question how would you install something that is .src.rpm at the end?
[01:45] <HrdwrBoB> ubun: correct
[01:45] <moparfan90> any one here have cedega installed on there computer?
[01:45] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: you would tell us what it is so we could direct you to a better source
[01:45] <HrdwrBoB> moparfan90: yes
[01:45] <ubun> jr, I have the same question
[01:45] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: it is 3ddesktop-.02.8-1.src.rpm
[01:46] <moparfan90> hrdwrbob: is it worth the money? and how much does it cost?
[01:46] <ubun> Hrdwr, So Why not elect ALSA ?
[01:46] <ubun> Hrdwr, So Why not select ALSA ?
[01:46] <HrdwrBoB> moparfan90: $15US
[01:46] <HrdwrBoB> for me, yes
[01:46] <moparfan90> you play counter strike source
[01:46] <HrdwrBoB> ubun: because esd provides multiple concurrent sounds
[01:46] <HrdwrBoB> no I don't
[01:46] <HrdwrBoB> however it should work perfectly
[01:46] <moparfan90> any games
[01:47] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: just get 3ddesktop from synaptic
[01:47] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: i search synaptic and it is not in there
[01:47] <HrdwrBoB> I use it to play far cry, world of warcraft and warcraft 3
[01:47] <misfitx7> has anyone installed on an ibook?
[01:47] <nalioth> jr0129: have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[01:47] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: make sure you've added the universe repository
[01:47] <jasoncohen> i'm trying to setup cron-apt to send email to my ISP's SMTP server using SSL/TLS. It worked fine w/o authentication but my ISP has recently changed its policies. I set smtp.comcast.net;username:password in /etc/exim4/passwd.client and I also setup exim4 to use smtp.comcast.net as the smarthost but i get connection timed out messages
[01:47] <nalioth> misfitx7: yes
[01:47] <HrdwrBoB> misfitx7: yes people have
[01:47] <moparfan90> do they work better on linx then on windows?
[01:48] <ubun> Than, what we select in the window: MULTIMEDIA SYSTEM SELECTOR?
[01:48] <jasoncohen> any ideas?
[01:48] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: i don't believe i have. Do you know what it is?
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> ubun: esd
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: in the 'sections' area
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> add 'universe'
[01:48] <nalioth> jr0129: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> in addition to 'main'
[01:49] <misfitx7> nalioth: how did you boot it? can you boot holding control on boot?
[01:49] <nalioth> misfitx7: are you asking about the install CD? what mac are you using?
[01:49] <HrdwrBoB> jasoncohen: maybe it's trying to connect on the secure SMTP port by default
[01:49] <misfitx7> ibook 800
[01:49] <fares> How can I set file associations? example: I want .avi files to play in VLC not totem.
[01:50] <jasoncohen> HrdwrBoB, i want it to use SSL on port 465. I can't connect unless SSL is used. it won't send my login/pass in the clear obviously
[01:50] <misfitx7> i mean, how do you boot it once its installed
[01:50] <ubun> Hrd, OK. I couldnt understand the existence of others options
[01:51] <fares> anyone? :)
[01:51] <concept10> what do you guys use for password management
[01:52] <seth_k> revelation
[01:52] <concept10> seth_k, revelation for pwds?
[01:52] <pinko> nothing except opera, for the web
[01:52] <nalioth> misfitx7: it should have installed yaboot
[01:52] <seth_k> indeed, concept 10
[01:52] <seth_k> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=revelation
[01:53] <nalioth> concept10: my organic memory
[01:53] <seth_k> I believe there is a newer version in backports
[01:53] <seth_k> if not, let me know, and I'll backport it for you
[01:53] <nalioth> backports cause system instability
[01:54] <microhaxo> can someone tell me how to install java?
[01:54] <concept10> nalioth, im getting old, memory is starting to fade. i cant even remember what distro im using
[01:54] <nalioth> microhaxo: there is a good article on www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ on just that subject
[01:54] <seth_k> nalioth, not if you don't backport libs
[01:55] <nalioth> concept10: then the wood and charcoal/graphite and dead tree products will help
[01:55] <moparfan90> does anyone here use cedega?
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> moparfan90: I already said that I did
[01:55] <moparfan90> o.
[01:55] <microhaxo> it dont work
[01:55] <nalioth> seth_k: but how many n00bs are gonna enable bp, get the one thing they want,and then disable bp?
[01:55] <seth_k> very true, nalioth
[01:55] <moparfan90> i didnt see your name on the list i thought you left
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> there's something like 300 people in this channel
[01:56] <jr0129> how would i end a process (by process name) using the terminal?
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: killall programname
[01:56] <concept10> have you guys heard of this site: http://klik.atekon.de/
[01:56] <odie5533> Anyone here use Glade?
[01:56] <nalioth> HrdwrBoB: and how many are at home asleep?
[01:57] <HrdwrBoB> nalioth: a lot :)
[01:57] <nomasteryoda|w> jr0129, if you know part of the program name, type
[01:57] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: thank you
[01:57] <nomasteryoda|w> ps ax | grep name
[01:57] <ubun> Anybody uses the AGNULA distro?
[01:58] <thechitowncubs> How reliable is the NTFS resizing?
[01:58] <thechitowncubs> I don't want to ruin any data
[01:58] <thechitowncubs> I'm installing linux on my sisters friends computer and I need to resize the NTFS partition
[01:58] <DarkWolf> you ask this in a Linux channel thechitowncubs?
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> DarkWolf: it's on topic
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> thechitowncubs: I'm led to believe it's fine, though I haven't done it personally
[01:59] <thechitowncubs> Yes, because I am installing linux
[01:59] <moparfan90> good. linux is alot better then any other
[01:59] <nomasteryoda|w> thechitowncubs, make sure you backup critical data/programs
[01:59] <thechitowncubs> ok, i will
[01:59] <concept10> thechitowncubs, make sure you back up important data.  Resizing is safe with backup
[01:59] <DarkWolf> didn't say it wasen't.. but i'll stfu :)
[01:59] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[01:59] <binbrain> fares: anybody answer your question?
[02:00] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: i don't touch ntfs. <<<that is a period
[02:00] <jr0129> what is the syntax for using xterm?
[02:01] <thechitowncubs> I wouldn't either, but its my sitseters friend
[02:01] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: what do you mean
[02:01] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: do your sis' friend a favor, and clean the filth off the machine
[02:02] <nomasteryoda|w> when i try to upgrade the kernel using updates, I get an error about ndiswrapper.ko ... how do i update
[02:02] <nomasteryoda|w> do i need to remove the ndiswrapper before it will install?
[02:02] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: for setting up a keybinding to run a command from a terminal i believe you would type xterm and then the command correct or is the syntax wrong?
[02:02] <ubun> Anybody uses the AGNULA distro?
[02:03] <concept10> Is there anyway to access Ubuntu's hardware data base?
[02:04] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: I would recommend using gnome-terminal
[02:04] <HrdwrBoB> but yeah
[02:04] <cthulfuego> concept10: How do you mean?
[02:04] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: what you want is gnome-terminal -e command
[02:04] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: what would be the line for that/
[02:04] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: thank you once again
[02:05] <concept10> cthulfuego, I want to see the information that Ubuntu has collected, is that accessible?
[02:05] <cthulfuego> concept10: Ah, no idea.
[02:05] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: be aware though if you're starting a noninteractive program it could run and close the window straight away
[02:05] <fares> binbrain no. no one answered my question
[02:05] <HrdwrBoB> because that window will close when the program does
[02:05] <D1> does anyone know if there is a ubuntu irc channel for laptops?
[02:05] <odie5533> how do I include header files when compiling with gcc?
[02:05] <cthulfuego> D1: You're on it.
[02:05] <nalioth> D1: not that i know, whats your question?
[02:05] <D1> oh ok.
[02:06] <HrdwrBoB> odie5533: I think you need to either ask a different question, or choose a different channel
[02:06] <cthulfuego> odie5533: You add #include "foo.h" statements to the source.
[02:06] <D1> well, its more of a kernel question but I'm wondering what the status of the smart battery implementation is in the latest patch kernel.
[02:06] <D1> its the only thing I can't get working in ubuntu or any other distro.
[02:06] <HrdwrBoB> odie5533: sorry that came across badly, but if you're learning how to develop things, probably a channel based on that would be more appropriate
[02:07] <nalioth> D1: that went over my head so high, i don't even know you asked a question....lol
[02:07] <nomasteryoda|w> HrdwrBoB, is there a way to make the bluetooth mouse keep it's settings ... with screensaver activates, it disconnnects the mouse
[02:08] <HrdwrBoB> nomasteryoda|w: that would be irritating I imagine
[02:09] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: what is the command for ending a process by it's process name
[02:10] <misfit-toy> D1, smart battery works fine here
[02:10] <D1> anyone know any news about smart battery support in the kernel?
[02:10] <D1> what kernel version?
[02:10] <cthulfuego> D1: Never heard of it, sorry.
[02:11] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: killall processname
[02:11] <jabra_> can anyone help me install a wireless card, I think it uses prism
[02:12] <jabra_> u.s. robotics 2410
[02:12] <synd> jabra_: my us robotics worked right out of the box
[02:12] <synd> jabra_: but im not sure what the model number is. it was a PCMCIA car
[02:12] <synd> d
[02:13] <jabra_> ya
[02:13] <jabra_> I dunno
[02:13] <D1> misfit-toy: what kernel version are you running?
[02:13] <jabra_> kernel 2.6.10
[02:14] <jabra_> synd: ya I am not sure if it is prism orinoco or what
[02:16] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: by any chance i have one more question and that is pertaining to configuring apm into my kernel so that i have power management on my computer i run apm and it says the support isn't built into the kernel
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: ACPI is enabled by default and is better than apm in almost every way
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> which is why apm isn't in your kernel
[02:17] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: ok thank you
[02:17] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: how do i configure the setting in it?
[02:18] <HrdwrBoB> what do you want to change
[02:18] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: when my computer goes to stand by and such like that i want to see what the times are on that
[02:19] <tberman> i have installed the langpack-base-th, and i run an app with LANG="th_TH.UTF-8", but the gtk+ stock buttons stay normal, do i have to change anything?
[02:19] <jonerling> how to install deb files?
[02:19] <Randall> any one have ane ppc exeriance?
[02:19] <Randall> any
[02:19] <fares> jonerling: apt-get install <package name>
[02:20] <cthulfuego> Randall: yep.
[02:20] <moparfan90> anyon have very good software that you think is worth using for linux
[02:20] <moparfan90> anyone**
[02:20] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: 'vim'
[02:20] <Randall> cthulfuego, I have a power mac 6500 and I can't get it to boot of the cd
[02:20] <cthulfuego> Randall: Correct.
[02:20] <jonerling> fares: i got the deb file on my desktop
[02:21] <Randall> cthulfuego, so what do I do any suggestions?
[02:21] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: hrm I'm not sure
[02:21] <cthulfuego> Randall: You're going to need either a floppy or a small MacOS partition with a small amount of free space.
[02:21] <moparfan90> cthulfuego: whats VIM
[02:21] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: do you know any way to control the power setting on the computer?
[02:21] <concept10> Anyone here have laptop with P4 Speedstep?
[02:21] <cthulfuego> Randall: The latter (MacOS install) is by far the easier option.
[02:21] <Randall> ok
[02:21] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: you can change various things in /proc/
[02:22] <moparfan90> cthulfuego: whats VIM
[02:22] <Randall> cthulfuego, tried to install bootx is that right?
[02:22] <cthulfuego> Randall: Yep.
[02:22] <cthulfuego> Randall: But you will need to _keep_ MacOS on there to bootstrap via BootX each time.
[02:22] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: where in /proc/ and also how do i see what the system recognizes my harddrive as for instance see if it is hda2 or whatever
[02:23] <Epix> is there any good music recording/editing software for linux? opensource, of course :)
[02:23] <HrdwrBoB> type 'dmesg' and it lists all the kernel messages
[02:23] <cthulfuego> Randall: it's a bit of a PITA, but once it's working, it'll keep working :-)
[02:23] <HrdwrBoB> you'll probably want dmesg|less
[02:23] <Randall> cthulfuego, thats fine the only prob is I don't have internet or a cd burner for that mechine I have to burn files off my intel linux mechine and it thinks all the files a text
[02:23] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: vim is an editor.
[02:23] <moparfan90> how do you install limewire on ubuntu???
[02:23] <moparfan90>  cthulfuego: for what
[02:23] <Epix> moparfan90, you dont, pirate
[02:23] <cthulfuego> Randall: aiyee.
[02:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> ack..
[02:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm trying to compile a plug-in for gaim and i get this error:
[02:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> checking for glib-2.0 >= 2.4 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4 gaim >= 1.0... Package gaim was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[02:24] <cthulfuego> Randall: if you download .hqx files, you can burn them and then use stuffit expander.
[02:24] <moparfan90>  Epix: moparfan90, you dont, pirate// what! how do you install limewire on ubuntu??
[02:25] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: I thought you wanted _good_ software?
[02:25] <Randall> cthulfuego, ok that sounds like a plan will try
[02:25] <Randall> cthulfuego, thanks for all the help
[02:25] <HrdwrBoB> Epix: yes, there is one, it has heaps of features and its name escapes me for a minute
[02:25] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: you will need the gaim-dev package
[02:25] <cthulfuego> Randall: Good luck :-)
[02:25] <moparfan90> i do. what do you mean?
[02:25] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: last I checked limewire was crap software.
[02:26] <moparfan90> ok. whats a good p2p software hen fo linux
[02:26] <jr0129> how do i view my partitions?
[02:26] <cthulfuego> jr0129: fdisk -l
[02:26] <dockane> ping
[02:26] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: bittorrent works fine
[02:26] <uc50ic4more> moparfan90 - GTK-Gnutella, IIRC, is in one of the repositories
[02:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB you're a genius.
[02:27] <uc50ic4more> moparfan90, there is also a DirectConnect client in there somewhere too
[02:27] <moparfan90> whats the link for bitorent?
[02:27] <HrdwrBoB> I know
[02:27] <moparfan90> uc50ic4more: in where
[02:27] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: There is no link, it's installed by default.
[02:27] <Quozl> help, gave a friend a 5.04 cd, she's installed it, now she wants to know how to connect to the internet via dialup modem 56k, where is this documented?
[02:27] <moparfan90> o
[02:27] <jr0129> cthulfuego: it doesn't show my internal harddrive it only shows my external the root system is on the internal though
[02:28] <cthulfuego> Quozl: She can run pppconfig from a terminal.
[02:28] <Randall> cthulfuego, your going to hate me its look like a mac os 7 and don't seem to have stuff it installed
[02:28] <Epix> HrdwrBoB, remember it now :P?
[02:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> now it's workin
[02:28] <cthulfuego> Quozl: if she's got a winmodem though... you're in for PAIN.
[02:28] <Quozl> cthulfuego: oh, so just like debian, eh?  kppp or gnome ppp available?
[02:28] <cthulfuego> Randall: Ey? OS7 should be fine.
[02:28] <moparfan90> how do you download with bittorent???
[02:28] <cthulfuego> Quozl: I expect so... not sure, haven't used dialup since last year in Brazil <heh>
[02:29] <Epix> HrdwrBoB, is it called jack?
[02:29] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: What are you wanting to download?
[02:29] <Quozl> cthulfuego: thanks.  will try suggesting that sequence.
[02:29] <HrdwrBoB> Epix: JACK is a backend plugin thingo
[02:29] <Randall> cthulfuego, I bunred the hqx file and still sees it as a text file
[02:29] <moparfan90> anything. mostly music
[02:29] <cthulfuego> Randall: Is stiffut expander installed?
[02:29] <cthulfuego> Randall: Uh, stuffit even
[02:29] <moparfan90> how do i search for stuff then d/l
[02:29] <Randall> cthulfuego,  don't look like it
[02:30] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: You can download music from music sites. if you're after copyrighted material, you're in the wrong channel.
[02:30] <cthulfuego> Randall: Crud, then I fear you're stuck.
[02:30] <moparfan90> ok. well how do i search for legal software with bittorent
[02:31] <zyth> Randall, you will need stuffit expander from aladdin systems or whatever.
[02:31] <Epix> HrdwrBoB, is it called rosegarden?
[02:31] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: You search for legal misic via google and then make sure it has a torrent download.
[02:31] <cthulfuego> zyth: That's not going to be useful.
[02:31] <moparfan90> o
[02:31] <zyth> cthulfuego, oh? my bad
[02:31] <HrdwrBoB> Epix: there's many
[02:31] <cthulfuego> zyth: You need 1) A net conenction. 2) OSX and 3) OS8.6 or higher.
[02:31] <HrdwrBoB> Epix: ardour
[02:31] <zyth> ohh.
[02:31] <zyth> Erm yes.
[02:32] <cthulfuego> zyth: Aladdin (now renamed) don't make life easy for old amc users.
[02:32] <zyth> cthulfuego, well that sucks :(
[02:32] <ubun> I cant run xmms I get the message:Sound server informational message:
[02:32] <ubun> Error while initializing the sound driver:
[02:32] <ubun> device: default can't be opened for playback (Device or resource busy)
[02:32] <cthulfuego> zyth: I had to go and dig around for a jaz disk!!!! with an old backup.
[02:32] <Randall> cthulfuego, thanks again
[02:32] <ubun> What can I do?
[02:32] <cthulfuego> Randall: np.
[02:33] <cthulfuego> zyth: Oh, a 4) You need an older expander to expand the new download.
[02:33] <cthulfuego> zyth: But 5) not too old, because the formats have changed.
[02:33] <HillTop> Has Ubuntu started mailing the Hoary CD packages? I know it was a while after Warty released that it was mailed. Thanks
[02:33] <seth_k> HillTop, if you got Warty CDs, you will be the last to get Hoary CDs
[02:34] <seth_k> HillTop, people who didn't get Warty get Hoary first
[02:34] <seth_k> HillTop, however I heard yesterday that some people who had Warty just received Hoary, so shouldn't be long :)
[02:34] <thechitowncubs> I just got my cds :)
[02:34] <thechitowncubs> and i've already given away a lot of em
[02:34] <HrdwrBoB> mine have not arrived yet
[02:35] <thechitowncubs> they should have a distribution center in the US
[02:35] <HillTop> That is OK, I have folk who are interested but they can wait. :)   I installed Hoary but only after a few tried -- my downloads had errors.
[02:35] <moparfan90> are there any p2p software out there for ubuntu other then bittorent
[02:35] <mic_> yes limewire for one
[02:35] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: Check the manual for 'apt-cache' and see the 'search' option.
[02:35] <HillTop> Yes, my Warty s werer mailed from USA.
[02:36] <yaaar> word
[02:36] <moparfan90> how do you install limewire in ubunutu
[02:36] <thechitowncubs> gtk-gnutella
[02:36] <thechitowncubs> moparfan90: sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutela
[02:36] <moparfan90> whats that mean
[02:36] <thechitowncubs> sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella  **
[02:36] <thechitowncubs> that is how you install it
[02:37] <moparfan90> is that a virus
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> no
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> it's not
[02:37] <moparfan90> it lie sh limewire.sh or something
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> it's a program that's functionally equivalent
[02:37] <Guerin> moparfan90: don't bother with lamewire.
[02:37] <mic_> it is the instruction to install gnutell
[02:37] <J35U5> yeah i use gtk-gnutella. its awesome.
[02:38] <thechitowncubs> yep, me too :)
[02:38] <moparfan90> where do i type that? in konsole
[02:38] <mic_> terminal moparfan
[02:38] <moparfan90> what do i type exactly
[02:39] <Randall> cthulfuego, last question I sware
[02:39] <mic_> 	sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella     moparfan
[02:39] <Randall> cthulfuego, whwat nic card would work out of the box with np
[02:40] <moparfan90> it didn't work
[02:41] <J35U5> moparfan90, you can get it with synaptic as well.
[02:41] <yaaar> hrmf
[02:41] <yaaar> stupid xchat
[02:41] <yaaar> crashed when i changed fonts
[02:41] <moparfan90> how...
[02:41] <zyth> weird
[02:42] <ironmc> anyone know how to play MP3's  with Ubuntu?
[02:42] <Guerin> moparfan90: what didn't work about it?
[02:42] <J35U5> open synaptic and search gtk gnutella
[02:42] <zyth> ironmc, install xmms?
[02:42] <J35U5> ironmc, xmms
[02:42] <mic_> xmms player ironmc
[02:42] <ironmc> xmms is for KDE??
[02:42] <moparfan90> wheres synaptic .
[02:43] <thechitowncubs> no...
[02:43] <moparfan90> how do i open
[02:43] <thechitowncubs> moparfan90: are you kidding?
[02:43] <moparfan90> Guerin:: i dont kow i said cant find file
[02:43] <thechitowncubs> System>Administration>Synaptic
[02:43] <moparfan90> o. im a nOOb
[02:43] <mic_> system,administartion  moparfan
[02:43] <mic_> me too I've been using linux a week
[02:43] <J35U5> ohh he needs to set it up to search univers
[02:44] <moparfan90> ok. its open now hat
[02:44] <tony> How can I reset my Gnome back to the default panel?
[02:44] <moparfan90> what*
[02:44] <thechitowncubs> I don't know how thats going to get done ;)
[02:44] <tony> I'm refering to the Gnome panel with the Gnome logo...
[02:45] <zyth> I need more eyecandy in my ubuntu, I have way too many free system resources.
[02:45] <vinux> zyiro, hehe
[02:45] <thechitowncubs> zyth: gDesklets :)
[02:45] <vinux> zyth, hehe
[02:45] <moparfan90> ok. its open noww hat
[02:45] <thechitowncubs> search it mo
[02:45] <thechitowncubs> use your brain
[02:46] <mic_> don't make others do all the thinking
[02:46] <moparfan90> hey. be nice
[02:46] <Guerin> hey. be smart.
[02:46] <zyth> gDesklets? is this like Konfabulator?
[02:46] <moparfan90> what i it caled?
[02:46] <thechitowncubs> zyth: ya, its a desklets daemon, works good.
[02:46] <zyth> funky
[02:46] <thechitowncubs> try it out
[02:47] <thechitowncubs> its in universe
[02:47] <zyth> yeah, I see it here in synaptic
[02:47] <zyth> ok :)
[02:47] <deshantm> tony, what do you want to do?
[02:48] <zyth> Cedega works too well :/  I'd rather have Linux versions of games, but I can understand why companies wouldn't bother...
[02:49] <moparfan90> cedega work good fo you?
[02:49] <zyth> yep
[02:49] <moparfan90> games run with low png
[02:49] <moparfan90> ping/
[02:49] <yaaar> d3d support is all good?
[02:50] <mic_> I could use a link for mounting   /dev/hda6  please
[02:50] <yaaar> mic_, a link? what file type is it?
[02:50] <mic_> its a drive
[02:50] <mic_> how does one mount a partition
[02:50] <D1> anyone know how to apply the kernel prepatch to 2.6.x kernel? I tried patch -p1 but doesn't work.
[02:50] <moparfan90> bye
[02:50] <yaaar> mic_, just 'mnt /dev/hda6 /mnt/whereyouwanttomountit' doesn't work?
[02:50] <yaaar> ahoot
[02:51] <mic_> tried with no success
[02:51] <yaaar> mic_, uh...sorry.... 'mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/mountpoint'
[02:51] <D1> I do patch -p1 patchname in the linux source directory
[02:51] <mic_> thanks I'll give it a go
[02:52] <tiglionabbit> mic_: make sure you create the directory you want to mount it to first
[02:52] <mic_> righto I think lol] 
[02:53] <tiglionabbit> later you can add it to fstab to make it mount on startup
[02:55] <Burnninator> anyone know what package contains lex?
[02:56] <mic_> ty all cya later
[02:56] <zyth> Anyone know any good free music sites of the legal variety that don't have crap?
[02:56] <Epix> how do i run a tcl script?
[02:56] <thechitowncubs> mp3.com was free?
[02:57] <zyth> thechitowncubs, yeah, it had a huge archive sorted by music type, lots of free downloads, or you could buy cds, etc.
[02:58] <thechitowncubs> wow
[02:58] <djs> Burnninator: looks like "flex" does
[03:02] <Epix> how do i make a var in tcl?
[03:03] <deshantm> Epix, did you try searching on google... I don't know tcl
[03:04] <adapt> i hate all windowmanagers
[03:04] <vinux> hey guys how can I get a list of all the pkgs that's on the ubuntu servers?
[03:04] <adapt> synaptic
[03:04] <zyth> adapt, get evilwm
[03:04] <vinux> adapt, k thanks
[03:04] <zyth> then you can at least hate an evil one ;)
[03:05] <adapt> zyth i used it for along time on my ibook actually
[03:05] <zyth> oh ok
[03:05] <zyth> lol
[03:05] <vinux> zyth, there is a evil wm?
[03:05] <adapt> i did like it, but im out of my minimalistic phase
[03:05] <vinux> zyth, does it treat you bad?
[03:06] <adapt> windowmaker is the only thing i like anymore
[03:06] <adapt> and i dont even like it that much
[03:06] <sig> http://www.6809.org.uk/evilwm/
[03:06] <zyth> I dont' use it
[03:06] <zyth> vinux, it's got 1mm window borders and is generally 'minimalist-from-hell'
[03:06] <imposter_bot> evil as in no window decorations
[03:07] <zyth> and it'll abuse your pets
[03:07] <zyth> ;)
[03:07] <adapt> if you get good with it though, it can be pretty damn productive
[03:07] <imposter_bot> yeah, that cat looks seriously abused
[03:07] <imposter_bot> you can also be pretty damn productive in fluxbox
[03:07] <imposter_bot> or gnome
[03:07] <imposter_bot> ;>
[03:07] <pinko> fluxbox is pretty spiffy
[03:08] <adapt> i used fluxbox for about 2 years. i like pekwm more than fluxbox though
[03:08] <zyth> eh, I don't like having to manually configure menus, and in flux I tend to have to
[03:08] <vinux> zyth, hmmm its openbox good?
[03:08] <vinux> zyth, is
[03:08] <zyth> vinux, have never used it
[03:08] <Guerin> openbox is the shit
[03:09] <pinko> I hardly ever use the menus
[03:09] <imposter_bot> http://fluxbox.org/zoom.php?themes/contrib/rj_daft.jpg
[03:09] <imposter_bot> I remember that was my theme of choice
[03:09] <adapt> openbox is pretty cool
[03:09] <vinux> Guerin, yea but I had problems keeping the background on when I boot up and also adding things to the menu. If you not carefull it locks you out
[03:09] <pinko> what does openbox do?
[03:09] <twister> My Problem is that I cannot light the computer
[03:09] <twister> It continues beeping and he will not stop
[03:10] <twister> I am flustered as tones go on and my computer is connected up. In fact the noise of lthe is problem since inundation.
[03:10] <adapt> vinux: locks you out?
[03:10] <twister> There is somebody is the room of dialogue which knows answers. I am no good when the computer begins throwing sparks
[03:10] <Guerin> pinko: not much. Window borders, decorations and a right-click menu with all your stuff in it.
[03:10] <vinux> adapt, I lose the menu hehe
[03:10] <adapt> twister: wtf are you talking about
[03:10] <zyth> twister, xset beep off? I dunno lol
[03:11] <Guerin> twister: plug the machine out and send it back for a service.
[03:11] <twister> I have problems traslating as I am not English
[03:11] <zyth> OMG I have a floppy drive
[03:11] <zyth> I didn't even know that.
[03:11] <pinko> inundation
[03:11] <zyth> hey there IS one.
[03:12] <zyth> scary, gnome showed me something I didn't even realise :/
[03:12] <unifi> hi...would anyone be interested in writing a how-to for my linux blog?
[03:12] <twister> Main problem is that tones make it so I cannot see electronic mail and represent my sister sent me
[03:13] <twister> I must send transmission e-mail it as marriage is next Thursday
[03:13] <thechitowncubs> WOOHOO
[03:13] <thechitowncubs> NTFS resize was flawless
[03:14] <adapt> twister.. what is your native language?
[03:14] <twister> Who can sell that doesn' t spark and simple percentage not flooded with viruses like current one has me new hard drive
[03:14] <pinko> wow.
[03:14] <thechitowncubs> haha
[03:14] <eruin> that was  a long stream of words
[03:15] <thechitowncubs> i think that was a long RIVER of words
[03:15] <djs> vinux: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/allpackages
[03:15] <eruin> I wonder what he means
[03:15] <eruin> :p
[03:15] <thechitowncubs> ya, now im curious
[03:15] <thechitowncubs> :)
[03:16] <twister> I speak a variation of the language which I learnt between my time in the Caribbean
[03:16] <pinko> your translator is committing terrible acts of vengeance for something.
[03:16] <zyth> well it lives in PA.
[03:17] <adapt> twister: NATIVE language
[03:17] <eruin> sweet jane
[03:17] <adapt> where are you from
[03:17] <twister> I use the free translation software to help my to solve crimes on my hard disk throwing sparks
[03:17] <adapt> hahah
[03:17] <eruin> that sounds serious
[03:17] <zyth> I am from the place where the innundation of sparking viruses does not overflow my hard disk
[03:17] <zyth> :P
[03:17] <eruin> my graphics card is the closes to "throwing sparks" in here
[03:17] <adapt> his harddrive is litterally on fire and he is worried about sending an email
[03:17] <eruin> seeing as its fan just came off :o
[03:18] <pinko> I wonder what he typed that came out as "throwing sparks"
[03:18] <twister> If I buy a graphic card will go it to make send to my poor sister e-mail the husband of which is a being on drugs of coke
[03:19] <eruin> haha
[03:19] <adapt> like a soap opera
[03:19] <eruin> or a variation of dude, where's my car
[03:19] <pinko> I no longer buy the story, but it's funny.
[03:19] <eruin> for geeks
[03:19] <zyth> only a GeForce 6800GT could get THAT email through
[03:19] <senra> Hi, I'm a newcomer to Ubuntu. Does anybody know how to change  into cedilha ?
[03:19] <adapt> i concur
[03:19] <twister> Where make I am going to accept a French eloquent hard disk without virus
[03:20] <adapt> no french people allowed
[03:21] <yaaar> no, french *people* are fine. it's those french *hard drives* that we don't want around
[03:22] <adapt> heh
[03:22] <DarkWolf> twister, i have no idea what you are saying man...
[03:22] <transgress> so i think Mandrake is slowly working on becoming "Mandriculous"
[03:22] <twister> It is absolutly no helps... I need a lesson in the abduction of jetants hard disks of the sparks.... I do not love French people the one or other one help please I have 1 computer and the electronic mail of the sister is left without other connection there. I laugh at six daily oclock as the computer rinitialisations and I tore off my player of CD
[03:22] <transgress> they bought up some of Lycoris now
[03:22] <transgress> i'm telling you... it's gonna happen
[03:22] <transgress> you do not love French people?  wtf not!?
[03:22] <bbk> twister - are you there?
[03:23] <twister> oh not the police came to take my sister
[03:23] <pinko> I hope you give a toast at this wedding.
[03:23] <vinux> transgress, well it's a good OS but they make it known they want some money :)
[03:23] <pinko> with sparks and stuff.
[03:24] <twister> bbk.... back to the forum.... hahaha
[03:24] <bbk> in your cage with you!
[03:24] <vinux> transgress, me i'll stick with my uber free OS ubuntu.
[03:25] <rymdapan> svenskar=
[03:25] <DarkWolf> <3 Debian <3 <3 Ubuntu <3
[03:25] <rymdapan> ?
[03:26] <billytwowilly> holy crap. You guys have really improved gnome in the hoary release.
[03:26] <vinux> billytwowilly, gnome is uberness!
[03:26] <yaaar> billytwowilly, well, i'm not sure it's quite like that. but yes, gnome has been making quick progress
[03:27] <billytwowilly> vinux, I'm a kde fan;) But atleast gnome is useable now. The gnome setup in ubuntu is now quite nice.
[03:27] <rymdapan> i realy hate my touchpad!
[03:27] <rymdapan> it makes me go nuts
[03:27] <billytwowilly> The last time I used gnome was in warty and it was much clunkier than this.
[03:27] <vinux> billytwowilly, Yea I used kde for about 2+ years. It's really nice but I'm starting to like gnome
[03:28] <billytwowilly> Honestly, they both have problems, albeit different ones (and their problems aren't as bad as winxp's problems;)
[03:28] <Thorrn4> hello! for some reason...I cannot view what is on a CD/DVD...I played a DATA DVD into the DVD drive...but this user cannot access it; another user that I have on this machine can...but not the one I'm on...the one I always use
[03:29] <billytwowilly> what was the name of that gnome cd burning app that is fairly new, but somewhat decent?
[03:29] <neiras> Hello - I have a number of packages that are 'kept back'. What does this mean?
[03:30] <neiras> billytwowilly, gnome-baker
[03:30] <Thorrn4> billytwowilly, just use k3b...it is good
[03:30] <billytwowilly> lol, ok;)
[03:30] <vinux> gnome-baker is nice
[03:30] <Thorrn4> for some reason...I cannot view what is on a CD/DVD...I played a DATA DVD into the DVD drive...but this user cannot access it; another user that I have on this machine can...but not the one I'm on...the one I always use
[03:30] <dreaddydave> gnome-baker is buggy
[03:30] <Thorrn4> yea it is
[03:31] <neiras> Thorrn4, add the user that can't access the drive to the group 'cdrom'
[03:31] <vinux> Well I only did a Data CD on gnome-baker and it worked fine but that's all I've done with it
[03:31] <dreaddydave> It always tells me the 640mb is too large to fit on my 700mb disk
[03:31] <dreaddydave> stuff like that
[03:32] <neiras> dreaddydave, you need to select the size of the media you have in the lower right corner of the app
[03:32] <dreaddydave> yup
[03:32] <billytwowilly> dreaddydave, might be hard coded into the app? in k3b that is a config option..
[03:32] <ironmc> Now that XMMS is installed it froze up without playing the file.  How do I kill a process?  Obviously can't use ctl/alt/esc like SuSe
[03:32] <dreaddydave> it is in the lowe corner
[03:32] <dreaddydave> *lower
[03:33] <neiras> There is no way for gnome-baker to tell how large an empty cdr is
[03:33] <billytwowilly> ironmc, killall xmms
[03:33] <rnocom> hi, anybody had success installing sjsas on hoary?
[03:33] <ironmc> thx
[03:33] <neiras> you have to tell it how big the one you've inserted is
[03:33] <billytwowilly> ironmc,  or ps -A | grep xmms
[03:33] <billytwowilly> ironmc, then kill -9 the process number you got from above command
[03:33] <HrdwrBoB> or killall -9 xmms
[03:33] <truz24> is the cpu frequency monitor applet supposed to show cpu usage ?  If not, what applet shows CPU usage ?
[03:33] <dreaddydave> I have to set it to a dvd size, put all my files on it, then toggle it back to 700mb
[03:33] <HrdwrBoB> or kill -9 $(pidof xmms)
[03:34] <HrdwrBoB> truz24: 'system monitor'
[03:34] <truz24> thanks HrdwrBoB
[03:35] <ironmc> any other ideas to play MP3's??
[03:36] <dreaddydave> ironmc are you using a nvidia car
[03:36] <dreaddydave> *card
[03:36] <ironmc> yes I am
[03:36] <ironmc> on board
[03:36] <dreaddydave> i think there is a bug
[03:36] <Eighth_> do i have to do something on my machine to open port 80?
[03:36] <ironmc> it worked yesterday with SuSe
[03:37] <ironmc> after I installed the fix from nvidia
[03:37] <dreaddydave> might be specific to ubuntu
[03:37] <dreaddydave> or not
[03:37] <ironmc> I tried w/ Ubuntu  but I can't find the kernel source files
[03:37] <dreaddydave> ahh
[03:38] <ironmc> I am using the download version  are the source files on it, perhaps?
[03:38] <dreaddydave> don't know
[03:39] <anto9us> Eighth_: only process run as root can open ports below 1000
[03:39] <ironmc> thx anyway  I'll find them
[03:39] <billytwowilly> ironmc, is xmms configured to use esd?
[03:40] <Eighth_> anto9us: i'm running an apache server, but port 80 from the outside appears stealth... no response from it
[03:40] <anto9us> Eighth_: do you have a firewall?
[03:40] <concept10> Do you guys have the problem of when trying to install apps synaptic wants to remove ubuntu-desktop?
[03:41] <ironmc> don't know what that is
[03:41] <Eighth_> anto9us: it's built into my router, but i have :80 redirected to my comp
[03:42] <anto9us> Eighth_: can you connect to apache locally?
[03:42] <Eighth_> yeah
[03:42] <Eighth_> here's the line in my firewall: Allow	Virtual Server HTTP	WAN,*	LAN,192.168.0.100	TCP,80
[03:42] <Eighth_> source: WAN,any IP
[03:42] <Eighth_> dest: LAN,my comp
[03:44] <anto9us> Eighth_: I don't know much about apache I'm afraid, I would imagine it defaults to allowing connections external to your machine on port 80
[03:44] <Eighth_> one would think
[03:45] <anto9us> Eighth_: have you another machine on your lan to test it from?
[03:45] <Eighth_> i could connect my lappy
[03:45] <ivoks> it listens on *:80
[03:45] <anto9us> Eighth_: I think that would help in solving it
[03:45] <ivoks> try telnet your_ip 80
[03:46] <Eighth_> could not resolve
[03:46] <ivoks> could not resolve?!
[03:46] <Eighth_> that's what it says
[03:46] <ivoks> Eighth_ replace your_ip with your IP
[03:46] <bob_> hey, I'm using ubuntu 5.04 and I'm trying to get evolution-exchange working, has any one played with this and got it working?
[03:46] <Eighth_> telnet: could not resolve meznak.homelinux.net:80/telnet: Name or service not known
[03:47] <senra> Anybody know how to convert  into cedilha (,c)
[03:47] <ivoks> Eighth_ I said IP, not hostname
[03:47] <cary> hello everyone
[03:47] <cary> (not that i expect a reply)
[03:47] <bob_> hey cary
[03:47] <anto9us> hello cary, you can expect the unexpected here ;)
[03:47] <cary> bob..are you the same bob as bob2 from earlier?
[03:48] <cary> anto9us, good to know~
[03:48] <cary> anto9us, sort of like with ubuntu so far (still very much learning)
[03:48] <Eighth_> telnet: could not resolve 70.176.28.98:80/telnet: Name or service not known
[03:48] <anto9us> cary: as am I :)
[03:48] <bob2> no, he/she is not
[03:48] <cary> bob2, hey! its bob2!
[03:49] <vinux> If anyone is interested in ubuntu 5.04 pkg list try here ---> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/
[03:49] <cary> im about to make hte plunge. i have tiger sitting here and im nervously awaiting my brain to give me the go-ahead to start the process
[03:49] <ivoks> Eighth_ does ps ax | grep apache shows any apache instance running?
[03:50] <Eighth_> several
[03:50] <cary> anyone have any last advice for me about to do a clean install of tiger. i have my old Everything saved on my lacie, but i dont want to mess stuff up
[03:50] <ivoks> Eighth_ and what does /etc/apache2/port[.conf]  says?
[03:50] <xMaximex> how do i get mozilla to use "windows style" fonts ?
[03:51] <Eighth_> Listen 80
[03:51] <Eighth_> how can i tell which apache ver i'm actually using? i have 1 & 2 on my system
[03:51] <joni_> I can't enable DMA for my computer, it says the the operation is not permitted, does anyone have any advice?
[03:51] <capi> anyone know a good resource on setting up a smtp server with postfix?
[03:51] <capi> Eighth_, look at the directory, apache2 will be in ... apache2
[03:52] <HrdwrBoB> capi: tjere
[03:52] <anto9us> joni_: have you tried your command with sudo?
[03:52] <HrdwrBoB> there's about a trillion in google
[03:52] <Eighth_> capi: i have apache/ and apache2/
[03:52] <ivoks> Eighth_ apache2 runs as apache2, and apache1 runs as apache
[03:52] <iceonnet> how to mount ntfs disks?
[03:52] <joni_> ya, i'm doing it w/ sudo
[03:52] <Eighth> k, then i'm running apache
[03:52] <FR500> hellp
[03:52] <FR500> hello i mean
[03:52] <ivoks> Eighth then you should configure apache1, not apache2
[03:52] <FR500> how do i mount an iso image?
[03:53] <capi> Eighth_, then you may be running both if you have more then one directory, they can run side by side without a problem
[03:53] <joni_> and when i transfer files from the cdrom to he hard drive, the computer gets really slow
[03:53] <capi> HrdwrBoB, what is  tjere?
[03:54] <Eighth> i don't know what configuration i need to do to apache... i'm very new to this sort of thing
[03:54] <cary> what is the default password, say, if i locked my screen?
[03:54] <HrdwrBoB> cary: your password
[03:54] <cary> like my default sys pw? cool.
[03:55] <ivoks> Eighth first deinstall apache1
[03:55] <capi> Eighth, check out the Apache manual... manuals are your friend. :), what are you trying to do, can you see local host?
[03:55] <ivoks> Eighth and run only one apache, apache2
[03:55] <Eighth> i can connect to the server fine from the same box
[03:55] <joni_> Why would my computer run extremely slow if i was copying files from the CD?
[03:56] <bob2> capi: installing it and answering debconf questions is a good start
[03:56] <ivoks> Eighth ? you just said you can't telnet to port 80 on your machine
[03:56] <bob2> Eighth: remove apache1
[03:56] <joni_> plus the file transfer is going slow
[03:56] <FR500> joni_, try enabling dma for your cd-rom drive
[03:56] <FR500> for the second part
[03:56] <ivoks> joni_ you need DMA
[03:56] <Eighth> if i go to http://meznak.homelinux.net/gallery/albums.php from my machine, i have no problems
[03:56] <bob2> bear in mind linux disabled dms for a reason
[03:56] <joni_> Right, but I can't do that in the first place, it says the operation is not permitted
[03:56] <Eighth> if i try from a machine off my network, it times out
[03:56] <bob2> er, dma
[03:56] <ivoks> joni_ hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[03:57] <ivoks> joni_ hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[03:57] <ivoks> joni_ or whatever your CD/hard disk are
[03:57] <bob2> Eighth: so, somsone is running a misconfigured riewall
[03:57] <FR500> bob2, but without dma my dvd playback is crap
[03:57] <bob2> ok
[03:57] <FR500> bob2, is there a way to mount an iso image in linux?
[03:57] <xMaximex> how do i get mozilla to use "windows style" fonts ?
[03:57] <ivoks> bob2 linux disables DMA cause of few crapy hardware
[03:58] <joni_> my cdroms are located at /dev/hda /dev/hdb
[03:58] <bob2> ivoks: yes, I know
[03:58] <ivoks> bob2 notably, some VIA chipset, IIRC
[03:58] <bob2> xMaximex: you need to explain what you mean, then maybe somone can answer
[03:58] <joni_> /dev/hda:
[03:58] <joni_>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[03:58] <joni_>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[03:58] <joni_>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[03:58] <Gskillet> how do i empty the trash as root?
[03:58] <joni_> That is what happens :(
[03:58] <ivoks> joni_ then sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[03:58] <HrdwrBoB> joni_: use sudo
[03:58] <bob2> xMaximex: if you mean "How can I get firefox to use windows fonts", then just put some windows fonts in ~/.fonts/
[03:58] <joni_> I am using sudo
[03:58] <Eighth> my firewall is set to allow all TCP traffic on port 80 from WAN,* to LAN,mybox
[03:59] <bob2> haha firewall
[03:59] <bob2> aparently not
[03:59] <joni_> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[03:59] <joni_> that is what i type in
[03:59] <HrdwrBoB> Eighth: you need to allow traffic FROM port 80
[03:59] <HrdwrBoB> to lan,mybox
[03:59] <bob2> Eighth: disable it completely and watch it work
[03:59] <HrdwrBoB> a decent packet filter is nontrivial
[03:59] <ivoks> joni_ maybe you aren't using right driver for your IDE chipset
[04:00] <joni_> If it matters, I think the computer is SCSI
[04:00] <xMaximex> bob2, i don't know how to explain it .. i dont speak english
[04:00] <ivoks> joni_ /dev/hda isn't SCSI
[04:00] <bob2> xMaximex: what language do you speak?
[04:00] <xMaximex> bob2: french
[04:00] <bob2> xMaximex: #ubuntu-fr
[04:00] <joni_> The hard drives are SCSI then
[04:01] <Gskillet> Question: How do I empty the trash as root?
[04:01] <ivoks> joni_ maybe they are, but your CDROM is IDE....
[04:01] <joni_> ya, they are
[04:01] <joni_> so, anything else i could try
[04:01] <bob2> Gskillet: why do you have files in there owned by root?
[04:01] <spiderworm> hi all, so rhythmbox will let me see the id3 tag information but will not let me edit it?  it looks like it's in text boxes and i should be able to edit it.
[04:01] <bob2> spiderworm: you can't, sorry
[04:02] <Eighth> added an outgoing :80 rule and nothing changed
[04:02] <Gskillet> bob2: because i deleted files that were owned by root
[04:02] <spiderworm> oh.  is there another app i can edit it in you would recommend bob2
[04:02] <joni_> How can I troubleshoot my soundcard?
[04:02] <bob2> Eighth: disable it.  does it work?
[04:02] <bob2> if so, your firewall is broken
[04:02] <ivoks> joni_ i'm sure you aren't using proper drivers for your IDE chipset
[04:02] <bob2> spiderworm: I hear easytag is good
[04:02] <joni_> I'm using the default ivoks
[04:02] <vinux> joni_, on my system /dev/hda is first hard drive then /dev/hdb is second hard drive. then /dev/hdc is first dvd rom and /dev/hdd is second dvd drive
[04:03] <joni_> vinux: you have an ide only system
[04:03] <joni_> i have an IDE/SCSI setup
[04:03] <vinux> joni_, oh ok
[04:03] <joni_> Its a gateway 550GR
[04:03] <psyc> hi, after i installed ubuntu, when i try to go to windows, im getting "Windows root\system32\ha1.dll is corrupted ..." does anyone know anything about it ?
[04:03] <anto9us> Gskillet: navigate to the .Trash directory and delete from there
[04:03] <bob2> sounds like windows is screwed in an unrelated way
[04:03] <spiderworm> psyc, yeah, i did it
[04:03] <Eighth> bob2: disable the rules or the entire firewall?
[04:04] <bob2> Eighth: the entire firewall
[04:04] <spiderworm> i wasnt gonna fess up, but with you begging like that...
[04:04] <joni_> How can I find out what type of soundcard i am using?
[04:04] <cary> oh hey general question. i have a usb mouse that gives me right clicking just fine, but the traditional mac "ctrl click" gives me nothing. is there any sort of key/click combo that will let me right click without the usb mouse?
[04:04] <Eighth> bob2: easier said than done, it's built into my router
[04:05] <ivoks> joni_ lspci
[04:05] <vinux> psyc, hmm you did back up your windows files right? :)
[04:05] <bob2> Eighth: your router will have no effect on machines on your network accessing other machines
[04:05] <HrdwrBoB> Eighth: you can just disable it
[04:05] <bob2> cary: f11/f12
[04:05] <Eighth> how do i disable it?
[04:05] <cary> bob2: oooo..thanks
[04:05] <joni_> got it ivoks, it says i have a Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)
[04:05] <joni_> Which isn't working
[04:05] <psyc> vinux, i didnt do anything with my windows partition
[04:05] <ivoks> joni_ i'm sure it is
[04:05] <psyc> and i dont make backups
[04:05] <psyc> hehe
[04:05] <luminerd> Wacom users here?  I REALLY Need help!  This has gone on SOOO long and right now I just wanna get this fixed once and for all!  Please say someone is here to help me! please!
[04:06] <ivoks> joni_ does play /usr/share/sounds/error.wav
[04:06] <psyc> spiderworm, what did you do ?
[04:06] <makaveli0129> how do i do a rescue install with hoary?
[04:06] <ivoks> joni_ does it prints any error or just isn't playing?
[04:06] <vinux> psyc, hmmm well I really don't know about that. I've never seen any error like that. But try to google that error msg to see what happens
[04:06] <bob2> luminerd: please just ask your question instead doing that
[04:07] <Gskillet> What's a good command to delete a directory (with contents)?
[04:07] <luminerd> bob2, my question is "any wacom users here?"
[04:07] <ivoks> Gskillet rm -rf
[04:07] <Gskillet> thx
[04:07] <ivoks> be careful
[04:07] <ivoks> :)
[04:07] <psyc> vinux, thanks
[04:08] <Gskillet> if there's one thing about linuxer's its that they are uber careful
[04:08] <bob2> luminerd: presumably you plan to ask them something
[04:08] <bob2> if so, just ask now
[04:08] <bob2> it's so amazingly silly to beg for users of $blah before asking a question
[04:08] <kangpeh> anyone know how to set kdm as a default login manager
[04:08] <kangpeh> rather than gdm
[04:08] <joni_> Sry, i got kicked off
[04:08] <bob2> install kdm.  enjoy!
[04:09] <joni_> Ok, back to troubleshooting
[04:09] <luminerd> Ok, here's the deal...I've been messing with my WACOM tablet now for about 3 weeks.  I have yet to get it to work.  I run slackware 10.1 but seek help from other channels, because the process should be similar.  If anyone here is willing to spend some time helping me get this working, I would HIGHLY appreciate it.  I am having troubles every 5 seconds it seems!  Firstly I can't even get it to compile against my kernel.  I could reall
[04:09] <luminerd> y use some help!  If anyone can be a coach, I would really appreciate it!
[04:09] <bob2> oh lord
[04:09] <RuffianSoldier> bob2 can you give me that link to the working wifi adapters?
[04:09] <bob2> #slackware
[04:09] <bob2> RuffianSoldier: I don't know what you mean
[04:09] <nomasteryoda|w> luminerd, did you ask over on slackware? those guys should help
[04:10] <RuffianSoldier> :-P
[04:10] <luminerd> bob2, I have been there and across freenode: no one has been able to help, the process is the same, we are all linux users.  please can I get some help?
[04:10] <ivoks> lol, what do you expect from distro that is runed by single man?
[04:10] <luminerd> nomasteryoda|w, see above
[04:10] <bob2> luminerd: no, it's not "the same"
[04:10] <ivoks> that everything will work? :)
[04:10] <joni_> I found out that I have an Intel High Definition (HD) Audio integrated sound card
[04:10] <joni_> Intel 915G Express Chipset
[04:10] <joni_> that is my chipset
[04:10] <bob2> and I'm sorry your distro of choice doesn't have a useful community
[04:10] <ivoks> joni_ does play /usr/share/sounds/error.wav plays anything or outputs error?
[04:10] <RuffianSoldier> I know the MA11V1 works with Ubuntu - but is it possible to get teh V2 working?
[04:10] <joni_> It says it can't open for resource
[04:10] <luminerd> ivoks, A) it's not run by a single man, B) didn't come here to start a distro war C) it's meant to teach you about linux, not have everything just work. that's its purpose
[04:11] <scotth_home> I'm having polypaudio problems.  I can't get gstreamer to play through polypaudio
[04:11] <cary> bob2: here i go, i think. about to commit to this mess. any suggestions to heed as i go?
[04:11] <scotth_home> anyone have an idea as to why?
[04:11] <joni_> ivoks: thanks for helping btw
[04:11] <bob2> cary: read carefully :)
[04:11] <ivoks> joni_ https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HdaIntelSoundHowto
[04:11] <cary> bob2: should i be nervous that i dont knwo a whole lot about command line stuff and general linux...stuff?
[04:12] <Eighth> aha!
[04:12] <ivoks> joni_ i would recommend souution from universe
[04:12] <bob2> cary: worst comes to worst, you reboot into mac os x
[04:12] <bob2> you should be fine, tho
[04:12] <scotth_home> not even gxine can play through polypaudio
[04:12] <joni_> ivoks: what solution is that?
[04:13] <Eighth> bob2: i had put localhost and my domain into httpd.conf, but not my local IP, which is what my router was referring to
[04:13] <ivoks> joni_ go to that page, you will see it
[04:13] <cary> wish me luck, whoever.
[04:13] <vinux> I just installed the pkg fortune but I need to know how to get it to display a fortune on login. Any ideas? I tried #man fortune and it didn't work
[04:14] <makaveli0129> i need some help i installed ubuntu hoary and then when i went to install windows i had to abort and windows had already marked the partition unactive how would remark the partition active? I am in the rescue console right now
[04:14] <ivoks> i'll be back
[04:16] <microhaxo> guys i need help
[04:16] <microhaxo> i have azureus and i need to know how to get it running
[04:16] <vinux> Ok wait i'm sorry #man fortune did work. But it doesn't mention that I see to set it up on login. What file would I use to put it in bash. I think that would do it
[04:17] <bob_> microhaxo, just ./azureus where ever you installed it
[04:18] <makaveli0129> anyone know how to mark my partition for ubuntu "active"
[04:18] <RuffianSoldier> the WA111v1 USB Wifi adapter works with Ubuntu - I have the V2 - what are the chances of getting it to work?
[04:18] <scotth_home> anyone at all familiar with polypaudio and why it won't output anything even though when I use gxine and tell it to use oss it works perfectly?
[04:18] <FR500> microhaxo, what do you need exactly?
[04:19] <joni_> ivoks: is there anything after this that I have to do to get it working
[04:19] <ivoks> joni_: did you do it all?
[04:19] <joni_> i did it all
[04:19] <joni_> is there anything i have to do after it?
[04:19] <ivoks> joni_: you installed .deb package?
[04:20] <ivoks> joni_: now do sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart
[04:20] <joni_> Do i have to change the multimedia system selector?
[04:20] <ivoks> joni_: wait, let's make it work first...
[04:21] <bob2> RuffianSoldier: is it too late to return it?
[04:21] <ivoks> joni_: did you restart hotplug?
[04:21] <joni_> not yet
[04:21] <ivoks> joni_: restart hotplug
[04:21] <RuffianSoldier> yes bob2 i ordered it online - it didtn say if it was V1 or 2 i just assumed :(
[04:22] <joni_> ok
[04:22] <makaveli0129> ?
[04:22] <ivoks> joni_: now with dmesg check to see if it mentions your sound card anywhere
[04:23] <joni_> o
[04:23] <joni_> k
[04:23] <makaveli0129> does anyone know how to make my linux partition active?
[04:23] <ivoks> makaveli0129: it's inactive?
[04:24] <makaveli0129> ivoks: yes i went to go install  windows and then had to abort and now it is marked inactive and it won't boot
[04:24] <makaveli0129> windows isn't installed yet though
[04:24] <ivoks> makaveli0129: ?
[04:25] <nalioth> ivoks: didnt you infer from "inactive partition" that it involved windoze?
[04:25] <cody> Hello
[04:25] <ivoks> makaveli0129: when you start your computer, it goes directly to windows or?
[04:25] <makaveli0129> ivoks: it says no operating system present
[04:25] <Code_> oh
[04:25] <jkezar> new to ubuntu, familiar with redhat.  I am not knowlegable with X configuration.  Is there a helper app that can probe my hardware for ubunto so I dont have to mess with xorg.conf manually
[04:25] <makaveli0129> due to the fact ubuntu is marked inactive
[04:25] <ivoks> nalioth: ?
[04:25] <joni_> ivoks: problem
[04:26] <scotth_home> anyone want to tell me why polypaudio can't find its modules, except they are there in the /usr/lib/polypaudio-0.7 directory
[04:26] <ivoks> makaveli0129: this is seriuos problem... are you any good with linux?
[04:26] <makaveli0129> ivoks: i'm a little new
[04:26] <ivoks> joni_: yes?
[04:26] <quio> hello every one!! I've just upgraded my ubuntu breezy dist and now the X can't start.... I get this errror :   "glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop)" Somebody could help me?
[04:26] <w6649> Hello
[04:26] <makaveli0129> ivoks: i am in the rescue shell for ubuntu tho
[04:26] <jkezar> how do I tell which resolution and depth a current X session is currently using?
[04:26] <ivoks> makaveli0129: good
[04:26] <paulproteus> jkezar: Are you running X?
[04:26] <joni_> FATAL: Could not open '/boot/System.map-2.6.10-5-686': No such file or directory
[04:27] <paulproteus> On a terminal, you can type:
[04:27] <paulproteus> xdpyinfo
[04:27] <makaveli0129> ivoks: so what do i do now?
[04:27] <ivoks> makaveli0129: do you remember what partition it was with ubuntu?
[04:27] <w6649> I just recieved Ubuntu today in the mail, I was wondering how to set it up so I could use dialup internet.
[04:27] <ivoks> joni_: are you running your custom kernel?
[04:27] <paulproteus> w6649: Have you installed it yet?
[04:27] <w6649> I am using the edition where I run it off of the CD-Rom
[04:27] <jkezar> paulproteus: yes, an ugly X.  I know my hardware can do better
[04:27] <paulproteus> w6649: Ah, I see.
[04:27] <makaveli0129> ivoks: yes i do it is already mounted and now am at the prompt that says sh-3.00#
[04:27] <paulproteus> jkezar: Okay. :)
[04:27] <chombee> Seveas - thanks for all your help, we now have a working server install on the uninstallable machine. Nifty trick really.
[04:27] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you chrooted to it?
[04:28] <joni_> No, I'm running default
[04:28] <joni_> I think i need to install the 686 kernel
[04:28] <makaveli0129> ivoks: not yet but when i go to ls it lists all of my files
[04:28] <ivoks> joni_: i think that too :) you have pentium, right?
[04:28] <joni_> Pentium 4 3.2ghz Hyper threading
[04:28] <ivoks> makaveli0129: ok, good, where did you mount it?
[04:28] <paulproteus> w6649: What modem do you have?
[04:28] <ivoks> joni_: then install -686 kernel
[04:28] <quio> When gdm starts, the log shows this : glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop)
[04:28] <joni_> linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 ?
[04:28] <w6649> let me check
[04:28] <makaveli0129> ivoks: it did it automatically
[04:28] <joni_> is it ok to remove the -386?
[04:29] <chombee> Anyone know how I can configure the network interfaces from the command line? I skipped that step in the install, and now we can't apt-get anything b/c we can't reach the repositories. Need to run the network config that the install runs
[04:29] <paulproteus> w6649: Have you used it in Linux before?  Some modems have a lot of trouble in Linux because the manufacturers don't give specifications to Linux developers.
[04:29] <ivoks> makaveli0129: run mount
[04:29] <makaveli0129> ivoks: i just selected the root partition and that it
[04:29] <ivoks> makaveli0129: without switches
[04:29] <ivoks> makaveli0129: it will tell you where it is mounted
[04:30] <w6649> Intel 537EP V9x DF PCI
[04:30] <ivoks> joni_: you should also install libc6-i686
[04:30] <joni_> ok, then i can remove -386?
[04:30] <w6649> should I have drivers on a floppy disk?
[04:30] <makaveli0129> ivoks: i did mount /dev/hdc1 which is root partition and it says line 9 in /etc/fstab is bad /dev/hdc1 already mounted or / busy
[04:30] <ivoks> joni_: yes
[04:30] <makaveli0129> ivoks: it also says it is mounted on /
[04:30] <ivoks> makaveli0129: ah, great
[04:30] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you had lilo or grub?
[04:31] <makaveli0129> i had grub installed to my root partition
[04:31] <paulproteus> w6649: Let me Google your modem.
[04:31] <ivoks> makaveli0129: then you should do grub-install
[04:31] <RuffianSoldier> I have an XP PC that gets its 'net from wifi - i want to use my ethernet slot as a router so I can get net on the Ubuntu PC thats next to it - how can I go about doing this?
[04:31] <w6649> ok
[04:31] <ivoks> makaveli0129: grub-install /dev/hda
[04:31] <ivoks> makaveli0129: grub-install /dev/hdc
[04:32] <chombee> Hello - anyone know what the network config tool that runs during Ubuntu install is? Is it possible to run that step afer an install, if it was skipped?
[04:32] <makaveli0129> ivoks: would that install it to my root partition and not my mbr?
[04:32] <ivoks> makaveli0129: no, it would install it to mbr
[04:32] <makaveli0129> ivoks: grub needs to be installed on /dev/hdc1
[04:32] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you can't boot from partition
[04:33] <w6649> http://www.intel.com/design/modems/products/537ep.htm If that helps
[04:33] <ivoks> makaveli0129: isn't hdc1 your windows partition?
[04:33] <joni_> Its warning me that removing the kernel image is dangerous...
[04:33] <ivoks> joni_: bla, bla, bla...
[04:33] <paulproteus> w6649: That should help some, thanks.
[04:33] <makaveli0129> ivoks: no /dev/hdc1 is linux and /dev/hdc2 is windows
[04:33] <ivoks> joni_: you know what you are doing, right? :)
[04:33] <ivoks> makaveli0129: that's why windows didn't install :)
[04:33] <joni_> I've never installed a new kernel image
[04:33] <ivoks> makaveli0129: look, you can boot system from partition
[04:33] <makaveli0129> ivoks: i need to install it to the root partition so that i can use windows bootloader to boot grub
[04:33] <Thorrn4> hello!! Konqueror gives me a weird error....I cannot open data DVDs or CDs (kio (KDirWatch): WARNING: KDirWatch::removeDir can't handle '/dev')
[04:34] <ivoks> makaveli0129: s/can/can't/
[04:34] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you are using windows bootloader for booting linux?
[04:34] <w6649> Will I need linux drivers?
[04:34] <makaveli0129> ivoks: i cancelled windows installation intentially because i need to use the dd command
[04:34] <RuffianSoldier> I have an XP PC that gets its 'net from wifi - i want to use my ethernet slot as a router so I can get net on the Ubuntu PC thats next to it - how can I go about doing this?
[04:35] <makaveli0129> and i forgot to
[04:35] <paulproteus> w6649: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto might be relevant, but I have to go, sorry.
[04:35] <jkezar> why does it keep using 640x480
[04:35] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you are using windows bootloader for booting linux?
[04:35] <makaveli0129> ivoks: i have to go back and do that that e-mail myself the file created from the dd command in order to use windows to boot linux
[04:36] <makaveli0129> ivoks: not yet but i will be
[04:36] <w6649> TY
[04:36] <ivoks> makaveli0129: why?
[04:36] <spiderworm> hey all, i discovered that when i hold my mouse over mp3 icons it starts to play the mp3, pretty cool, but it doesnt do it with my ogg files, is there somewhere to customize that behavior?
[04:36] <joni_> ok, ivoks i got it installed
[04:36] <joni_> and the deb file
[04:36] <ivoks> joni_: great, now reboot to your new kernel
[04:36] <makaveli0129> ivoks: becuase there are certain features for booting into windows that i like and that i need when something goes wrong with windows using grub it is hard to enter the boot options and much more complicated that way so i use ntldr
[04:37] <ivoks> makaveli0129: ?
[04:37] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you never hit F8 while Windows were booting?
[04:37] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you get same menu
[04:37] <makaveli0129> ivoks: all you have to do is run the command dd if=/dev/hdc1 of="bootsect.lnx" bs =512 count=1
[04:37] <ivoks> makaveli0129: i know, but as you see, things can get wrong
[04:38] <ivoks> makaveli0129: there is nothing you can doo now in linux
[04:38] <ivoks> makaveli0129: making partition active will not solve your problem
[04:38] <makaveli0129> ivoks: i forgot to do the dd command and there is no way to do that and get it to my windows partition unless i e-mail it to myself
[04:38] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you have to install windows so it writtes to mbr
[04:38] <ivoks> makaveli0129: just install windows man
[04:39] <ivoks> makaveli0129: makaveli0129 there is nothing you can do with linux now if you want to use window bootloader
[04:39] <joni_> ivoks, ok when i restarted hotplug and now my mouse isn't working
[04:39] <ivoks> makaveli0129: after you install windows, boot to linux with rescue
[04:39] <tchmnky> <-- never thought I'd hear the words "just install windows man" uttered here in #ubuntu. o_O
[04:39] <makaveli0129> ivoks: so then how would i create the bootsect.lnx and get into windows
[04:39] <ivoks> joni_: reboot!!!!
[04:39] <joni_> ok
[04:40] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you insert your ubuntu CD, boot from CD, and hit enter
[04:40] <tiglionabbit> what are you guys advising here?
[04:40] <eruin> is there a way to make a movie off xscreensaver output?
[04:40] <Xenguy> gw/z
[04:40] <microhaxo> guys i installed Azureus and it dont like my Amd64 JAVA, so how do i fix it to work?
[04:40] <Xenguy> sorry
[04:40] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you go with installation till the partition thing
[04:40] <tchmnky> eruin, short of an external video crapture, I don't know. :-/
[04:40] <eruin> :/
[04:40] <tchmnky> Not built in to xscreensvaer, anyway.
[04:40] <ivoks> makaveli0129: and then switch to console 2, chroot to your linux partition
[04:40] <tchmnky> capture* not crapture.
[04:40] <eruin> I'll have to try Istanbul then
[04:40] <ivoks> makaveli0129: and get everything you need
[04:41] <eruin> http://live.gnome.org/Istanbul
[04:41] <eruin> looks promising ;)
[04:41] <makaveli0129> ivoks: ok i'm back into linux but if i was to use the dd command while grub is installed on the mbr would it still work the same?
[04:41] <ivoks> makaveli0129: making partition active does not mean making it bootable
[04:41] <paulproteus> eruin: Not Constantinople?
[04:41] <eruin> ;)
[04:41] <tchmnky> eruin, Looks great. I am hereby proved wrong. ;)
[04:41] <ivoks> makaveli0129: i don't know, i allways use grub/lilo in MBR
[04:42] <ivoks> makaveli0129: then, if i have problems with windows, i press f8 while windows are booting
[04:42] <cromwell> I'm trying to set up my box so i can dial into it and access my cable internet...right now i think i need ppp0 active, but as soon as i try to activate it, it starts dialing a number
[04:42] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you get same menu (even more things) as with windows bootloader
[04:42] <cromwell> any ideas?
[04:43] <tiglionabbit> cromwell, what are you trying to do?
[04:43] <makaveli0129> ivoks: ok thank you for your help
[04:44] <TokenBad> whats command to see free space on drives again in nix?
[04:44] <ivoks> df -h
[04:44] <tchmnky> TokenBad, df -h
[04:44] <eruin> tchmnky, well, hopefully proven wrong, atleast ;-)
[04:44] <ivoks> thats from diskfree -humanreadable
[04:44] <ivoks> as is rm -rf
[04:44] <ivoks> readmail -readfast
[04:44] <tchmnky> heh
[04:44] <tchmnky> No. Not quite. :P
[04:44] <cromwell> tiglionabbit: sorry if im not very clear, i just started using Linux/Ubuntu today.  im trying to set up mgetty so i can dial into my computer here from outside to access my cable internet
[04:45] <joni_> ivoks! thank you so much
[04:45] <ivoks> joni_: works?
[04:45] <joni_> yep
[04:45] <joni_> perfectly
[04:45] <TokenBad> thanks tchmnky
[04:45] <ivoks> great...
[04:45] <tiglionabbit> cromwell: dial in?  Do you mean ssh or remote desktop?
[04:45] <ivoks> no, he means dial in
[04:45] <tiglionabbit> what does that mean?
[04:45] <ivoks> cromwell: with ISDN maybe?
[04:46] <paulproteus> tiglionabbit: He uses a modem to connect to the Internet.
[04:46] <yonil> how can i find out the locations of all the files installed by a package ?
[04:46] <cromwell> sorry
[04:46] <ivoks> yonil: dpkg -L <packagename>
[04:46] <tiglionabbit> wow, I have no idea what you guys mean by that..
[04:46] <yonil> ivoks, thanks
[04:46] <cromwell> im on cable internet right now...but i also have a modem
[04:46] <ivoks> cromwell: plain 56k modem?
[04:46] <cromwell> yes
[04:46] <ivoks> cromwell: or ISDN?
[04:46] <cromwell> 56k
[04:46] <ivoks> ok.. simple modem
[04:47] <ivoks> in other words... pice of sssit
[04:47] <cromwell> i wanna be able to share my cable internet
[04:47] <cromwell> by dialing into this computer
[04:47] <ivoks> cromwell: hm...?
[04:47] <ivoks> cromwell: isn't that expensive?
[04:48] <cromwell> ...no the idea is to get internet access without paying for a second provider
[04:48] <tiglionabbit> if I were cromwell, I would just use it through ssh
[04:48] <ivoks> cromwell: cromwell but you are paying phone bill, right?
[04:48] <cromwell> local call
[04:48] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: ?
[04:48] <tiglionabbit> just log in remotely and use it
[04:48] <ivoks> cromwell: ok, in my conuntry internet is cheaper than local call :)
[04:49] <islander> how do i install fvwm
[04:49] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: you don't understand :)
[04:49] <cromwell> so anyway...the problem is i dont know how to get ubuntu to sit here and listen for incoming modem calls
[04:49] <tiglionabbit> I know I don't understand, but I don't see what's different about this
[04:50] <ivoks> cromwell: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Modem-HOWTO-12.html
[04:51] <ivoks> cromwell: If you expect that people will be able to dial-in to you at 56k, it can't be done unless you have all the following
[04:51] <ivoks> cromwell: doesn't look good
[04:51] <cromwell> speed isnt all that important
[04:51] <ivoks> cromwell: ok :) then check out that HOWTO
[04:52] <cromwell> thanks ill look at it now
[04:55] <chombee> When installing Ubuntu it detects and configures network interfaces, is there way to re-run this automatic step on an installed copy, or do I need to configure them manually?
[04:55] <ivoks> chombee: you can't rerun instalation script, AFAIK
[04:55] <tiglionabbit> how is dialing in different from ssh?
[04:55] <ivoks> chombee: but manually isn't too hard
[04:55] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: lol
[04:55] <joni_> ivoks: how can i change the default mixer to alsa?
[04:55] <cromwell> ok i looked through it a bit, and ive already installed mgetty from the package manager
[04:55] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: ssh is application protocol
[04:56] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: and dialing is physical connection
[04:56] <chombee> ivoks - do you know anything about how to configure a wireless card? It's a plugin linksys one, I don't even think the device is detected
[04:56] <joni_> chombee: what model number?
[04:56] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: you can't have ssh without dialing, for example
[04:56] <tiglionabbit> ivoks: but what is the difference?
[04:56] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: i just told you
[04:56] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: it's like asking what's the difference beetween car and road
[04:56] <chombee> joni_ WPC54G
[04:57] <tiglionabbit> I don't quite understand.  Oh, is dialing in for people who don't have a normal internet connection?
[04:57] <joni_> ah
[04:57] <chombee> joni_ Linksys Wireless-G notebook adapter
[04:57] <ivoks> joni_: ?
[04:57] <capi> whats the command to send mail with postfix?
[04:57] <joni_> my next step is to get the ati drivers and then get my Linksys WUSB11 to work
[04:57] <cody> Hello
[04:57] <cody> I have a problem
[04:57] <eruin> curses
[04:57] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: do you have ADSL?
[04:57] <tiglionabbit> ivoks: cable
[04:57] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: how old are you? :)
[04:58] <joni_> my Volume control in my notification area defaults to the oss mixer, how can i make it control the ALSA
[04:58] <cody> I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop... I had fedora previously. With Ubuntu, I have a new problem. A few times per minute, X will simply freeze for a second and resume.
[04:58] <tiglionabbit> 19 as of today
[04:58] <cody> like I'll be typing, it will stop for a second, and then catch up with me.
[04:58] <joni_> because thats what my INTEL HDA is on
[04:58] <cody> /n/nick Cody_
[04:58] <cromwell> ok i checked my mgetty log and it seems to have a problem starting up...it says the modem isnt turned on
[04:58] <joni_> the oss doesn't change the volume at all
[04:58] <ivoks> joni_: oss?
[04:58] <HostingGeek> Hellow
[04:58] <joni_> OSS
[04:58] <joni_> ya...
[04:58] <joni_> there is an OSS mixer and an ALSA mixer
[04:59] <joni_> only the alsa controls the sound
[04:59] <ivoks> joni_: change multimedia selector to ALSA
[04:59] <chombee> I've been looking at ifupdown, ifconfig, iwconfig etc but can't get started, the problem seems to be that there is no device eth0 or anything
[04:59] <Cody_> Any ideas?
[04:59] <joni_> ivoks, for the source or sink?
[04:59] <ivoks> joni_: ALSA emulates OSS, so basicly, ALSA is controling sound card
[04:59] <ivoks> joni_: both
[04:59] <joni_> it doesn't work when i have it set to sink
[04:59] <bob2> chombee: that means you don't have the module for your card loaded
[04:59] <joni_> on the sink...
[04:59] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: couple of years ago people used modems to connect to internet
[04:59] <tiglionabbit> chombee: try running system->admin->Network Administration.  It's a cruddy utility, but it should set things up
[05:00] <ivoks> joni_: choose ALSA from drop down menu
[05:00] <chombee> bob2 - yeah! that sounds right... now what module and how to load it
[05:00] <joni_> Failed to contruct test pipeline for ALSA...
[05:00] <the_dead> hey guys, i have a question about my seona 2511.  when I used knoppix it read it and made it wlan0 properly, but even with hostap drivers installed i cand figure out how to get it working
[05:00] <tiglionabbit> ivoks: oh, heh back when ethernet wasn't a 'normal internet connection'.  sorry =P
[05:00] <joni_> but ESD works
[05:00] <chombee> tiglionabbit - I'm stuck at the command line and can't install gnome b/c i have no networl
[05:00] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: ethernet isn't "normal connection" even today
[05:00] <Cody_> I have another problem... I am trying to compile and install a program, but it says "invalid configuration 'i686-pc-linux'"
[05:00] <tiglionabbit> chombee: oh, that sucks.  It didn't detect it at startup?
[05:00] <tiglionabbit> I mean at install
[05:01] <ivoks> chombee: open /etc/network/interfaces
[05:01] <joni_> Default Sink: ESD, Default Source: ALSA
[05:01] <joni_> That is what its on right now
[05:01] <bob2> chombee: what chipset?
[05:01] <bob2> chombee: gnome is on the CD
[05:01] <tiglionabbit> ivoks: I couldn't imagine living without it
[05:01] <ivoks> joni_: put ALSA for both
[05:01] <HostingGeek> Where is the old human already????
[05:01] <bob2> HostingGeek: please
[05:01] <ivoks> joni_: or ESD, for now..
[05:01] <joni_> that doesn't work
[05:01] <ivoks> joni_: put esd for now...
[05:01] <joni_> ok...
[05:02] <cromwell> ok i think i may see the problem here with my modem.  when i goto System -> Admin -> Networking it says my ppp0 interface is not active
[05:02] <joni_> both sources work, oss and alsa
[05:02] <Cody_> I have another problem... I am trying to compile and install a program, but it says "invalid configuration 'i686-pc-linux'"
[05:02] <HostingGeek> bob2: mako told me it will be back with the new release of clearlook (or maybe I was dreaming)
[05:02] <chombee> tiglionabbit - that step of the install was skipped, on booting the laptop afterwards it doesn't appear to have detected or configured anything
[05:02] <cromwell> but when i activate it it starts trying to dial out right away
[05:02] <joni_> but the OSS Mixer doesn't change the volume, only my ALSA mixer does
[05:02] <cromwell> i just want to listen for calls
[05:02] <the_dead> hey guys, i have a question about my seona 2511.  when I used knoppix it read it and made it wlan0 properly, but even with hostap drivers installed i cand figure out how to get it working
[05:02] <chombee> bob2 - I have no access to the CD either
[05:02] <bob2> Cody_: don't use breezy
[05:02] <ivoks> joni_: i don't know how HD manages sound...
[05:03] <ivoks> joni_: but on normal AC97 you have couple of mixers
[05:03] <chombee> ivoks - okay, there's nothing in it except the loopback, and a hotplug grep eth0 thing
[05:03] <Cody_> bob2: Breezy?
[05:03] <ivoks> joni_: one for aux, one for video, one for CD, one for speeker, etc...
[05:03] <ivoks> chombee: great
[05:03] <ivoks> chombee: now you have to fill in gaps :)
[05:04] <ivoks> chombee: do you have DHCP on your network?
[05:04] <chombee> ivoks - okay, great - how do I say wireless card DHCP? Do you know of some examples somewhere?
[05:04] <joni_> right, but I'm talking about the OSS and ALSA, the one in my volume mixer is the one that shows up on my panel and thats the wrong one
[05:04] <tiglionabbit> chombee: if it didn't install properly, personally I'd just burn another CD and try again.  But I'm sure there are configuration settings, let me look through the wikis
[05:04] <joni_> fixed it lol
[05:04] <chombee> ivoks - the wireless works by DHCP, AFAIK
[05:04] <joni_> i had to right click>preferences on the applet
[05:04] <tiglionabbit> joni_: how'd you fix it?
[05:04] <joni_> thanks for everything ivoks
[05:04] <tiglionabbit> oh
[05:04] <chombee> tiglionabbit - the laptop has no cdrom, we had to do a brain transplant
[05:04] <tiglionabbit> wow
[05:04] <the_dead> hey guys, i have a question about my seona 2511.  when I used knoppix it read it and made it wlan0 properly, but even with hostap drivers installed i cand figure out how to get it working
[05:04] <ivoks> chombee: nice, does your wifi works?
[05:05] <microhaxo> IM trying to configure azureus and i need to point to my old JAVA client, WHY does it say this is WRONG JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR="/usr/java/j2re1.4.2/bin"    # use full path to java bin dir, ex.
[05:05] <microhaxo>  BTW im runnin kubuntu amd64
[05:05] <chombee> ivoks - another Ubuntu laptop in here works fine with an internal wireless card by DHCP
[05:05] <ivoks> chombee: but, does your wifi works? :)
[05:05] <chombee> ivoks - this laptop has a different wireless card, external one, and it's not configged
[05:05] <ivoks> chombee: run iwconfig
[05:06] <chombee> ivoks - oh, there's nothing there - no wireless extensions
[05:06] <ivoks> chombee: it will show you what's your wireless interface
[05:06] <ivoks> chombee: then you have a problem
[05:06] <chombee> ivoks - yeah, it ain't configured.
[05:06] <ivoks> chombee: this isn't about configuration
[05:07] <ivoks> chombee: your system doesn't know you have wifi card at all
[05:07] <ivoks> chombee: check lspci
[05:07] <chombee> ivoks - I installed Ubuntu on one laptop via cdrom, then removed the harddrive, put it in this laptop, it was the only way to install
[05:07] <tiefox> anyone has been able to compile the latest mysql-query-browser in ubuntu ?
[05:07] <ivoks> chombee: it will show you what's your wifi card
[05:07] <ivoks> chombee: lspci | grep Network
[05:07] <Cody_> I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop... I had fedora previously. With Ubuntu, I have a new problem. A few times per minute, X will simply freeze for a second and resume.
[05:08] <ivoks> chombee: that's faulty procedure
[05:08] <capi> How do I include a header with the sendmail command?
[05:08] <ivoks> chombee: installation detects hardware and installas support for your hardware
[05:08] <tiglionabbit> chombee: ubuntu detects a lot of your hardware.  That will really mess you up
[05:08] <capi> header/subject
[05:08] <chombee> ivoks - Okay, it's there, Broadcom 802.11/g Wireless LAN controller
[05:08] <zyth> oh
[05:08] <ivoks> chombee: i'm sorry
[05:08] <tiglionabbit> chombee: do you even have a disk drive?
[05:08] <zyth> you need ndiswrapper
[05:08] <chombee> ivoks, tiglionabbit - I was hoping hotplug would take care of it, anyway there was no other way
[05:09] <ivoks> chombee: some of broadcoms work with ndiswrapper, some not...
[05:09] <tiglionabbit> chombee: what peripheral drives does your machine have?
[05:09] <chombee> tiglionabbit - that was the problem, this laptop I'm trying to fix has no cdrom
[05:09] <ivoks> chombee: in the end, you need Internet to set it up
[05:09] <zyth> chombee, got a USB flash drive?
[05:09] <chombee> tiglionabbit - it has a floppy drive
[05:09] <ivoks> :)
[05:09] <chombee> ivoks - yeah, I know, once I can apt-get from the servers I'm going. Probably
[05:09] <chombee> zyth - no
[05:10] <chombee> zyth - well, I don't think so. Why?
[05:10] <ivoks> chombee: you don't have simple ethernet?
[05:10] <chombee> ivoks - no, it's broken.
[05:10] <ivoks> chombee: you need to download couple of things
[05:10] <chombee> ivoks - crap
[05:10] <Cody_> Can anyone explain this momentary X freeze?
[05:10] <ivoks> chombee: like... windows drivers for broadcom
[05:10] <cary> well...tiger..here i am.
[05:11] <ivoks> Cody_: :)
[05:11] <Cody_> ivoks: Not use Breezy?
[05:11] <ivoks> Cody_: that's because of your harddrive
[05:11] <Cody_> really?
[05:11] <_douglas> Is ther a debian/ubuntu/kubuntu package mirror for the latest nvidia drivers?
[05:11] <chombee> ivoks - there will be no way to get them onto the laptop in question, except maybe via floppies or if someone has a USB drive, but I wouldn't know how to get the USB working anyway
[05:11] <ivoks> Cody_: it goes to sleep every now and then, and it takes some time to wake up
[05:12] <zyth> _douglas, http://www.ubuntulinux.com/wiki/BinaryDriversHowto
[05:12] <Cody_> ivoks; it's like 4-5 times per minute
[05:12] <chombee> ivoks - I also have a USB external cdrom drive that works with the laptop, but it didn't seem to be detected or setup when it was plugged in, not that I would know where to look
[05:12] <microhaxo> YO can anyone help me with configuring Azureus????
[05:12] <Cody_> ivoks: it would sleep that often?
[05:12] <ivoks> Cody_: depends on your setup
[05:12] <microhaxo> kubuntu amd64 I installed but it wont boot to GUI, runnin J2r 1.5.0
[05:12] <ivoks> Cody_: you are using breezy?
[05:12] <zyth> _douglas, er https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:12] <_kevin> microhaxo: do you want help installing or setting it up?
[05:12] <chombee> ivoks - would it be easier to setup a USB cdrom? then i could apt-get from the install cd
[05:12] <microhaxo> installing
[05:13] <ivoks> chombee: this things aren't on CDROM
[05:13] <microhaxo> I installed it
[05:13] <ivoks> chombee: these are windows drivers
[05:13] <ivoks> chombee: you can't apt-get them
[05:13] <microhaxo> but i guess i need to point the old 1.4.2 java to the azureus file
[05:13] <tiglionabbit> chombee: best idea would be to get your bios to boot from the usb cdrom
[05:13] <levander`> Anybody here has tried prelinking their system?
[05:13] <tiglionabbit> if that's possible
[05:13] <chombee> ivoks - I need windows drivers to get this wireless card working?
[05:13] <_kevin> microhaxo: You need to download/Install Java and then get Azereus
[05:13] <ivoks> chombee: yes
[05:13] <microhaxo> I have java
[05:13] <chombee> tiglionabbit - I know, but it's impossible
[05:13] <microhaxo> I installed it
[05:13] <tiglionabbit> darn
[05:13] <ivoks> chombee: broadcom sucks
[05:13] <_kevin> microhaxo: So whats the problem now?
[05:13] <microhaxo> Azereus wont run
[05:14] <levander`> prelinking looks scary, talk about breaking package management
[05:14] <chombee> ivoks - do you know anything about configing the USB cdrom? At least I could install gnome
[05:14] <Cody_> ivoks: sorry, missed your last message.
[05:14] <_kevin> microhaxo: Did you follow the guide at www.ubuntuguide.org ?
[05:14] <microhaxo> Azureus TERMINATED.
[05:14] <microhaxo> Ues
[05:14] <ivoks> Cody_: you are using breezy?
[05:14] <cromwell> ok does anyone know how to activate the modem connection without it automatically dialing out?
[05:14] <microhaxo> wtf is breezy?
[05:14] <ivoks> chombee: it shouldn't be a problem
[05:14] <Cody_> ivoks: yup
[05:14] <_kevin> microhaxo: try to run Azureus through the terminal
[05:14] <cpayan> breezy badger :) where do these names come from?
[05:14] <ivoks> Cody_: so, what do you expect?
[05:14] <_kevin> microhaxo: type Azureus in the terminal
[05:14] <ivoks> Cody_: that everything will work?
[05:15] <weijie90> cromwell: if u want to connect to the internet why shoudnt it dial out
[05:15] <ivoks> Cody_: look at topic in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-motu
[05:15] <Cody_> ivoks; i downloaded the latest ... 5.04
[05:15] <ivoks> Cody_: that's not breezy
[05:15] <ivoks> Cody_: that's hoary
[05:15] <_kevin> microhaxo: I followed the guide on ubuntuguide and it worked fine for me.... maybe you installed Azureus before Java
[05:15] <jeremym> hi
[05:15] <_douglas> zyth: That's what I've already done, how do I check my nvidia driver version number?
[05:15] <microhaxo> no i didnt
[05:15] <Cody_> ivoks: sorry, then...  I"m using hoary.
[05:16] <microhaxo> kevin, i get this error
[05:16] <chombee> ivoks - should be autodetected?
[05:16] <microhaxo> from that guide
[05:16] <ivoks> chombee: yes
[05:16] <jeremym> anyone know what the defualt command line browser is
[05:16] <microhaxo> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:16] <microhaxo> E: Couldn't find package azureus
[05:16] <zyth> _douglas, glxinfo ? I don't know
[05:16] <zyth> I have nvidia glx 1.3
[05:16] <cromwell> weijie90: im trying to set my computer to listen for incoming calls.  but without the ppp0 interface active i get all sorts of errors in my mgetty logfile
[05:16] <tiglionabbit> microhaxo: that means you don't have a repository listed which azureus is in
[05:16] <ivoks> Cody_: when it "freezes" does your mouse works?
[05:16] <cromwell> weijie90: at least thats my theory
[05:16] <_kevin> microhaxo: You may need to add the repositories nessesary
[05:16] <microhaxo> it doesnt matter, i have azureus dloaded
[05:17] <microhaxo> from the site
[05:17] <weijie90> cromwell: i have no idea
[05:17] <microhaxo> and it still dont work
[05:17] <microhaxo> ....
[05:17] <Cody_> ivoks: nope
[05:17] <chombee> ivoks - and then apt should just get stuff from the cd repository fine?
[05:17] <Cody_> ivoks: it's just like it has a brainfart for a second, and then it comes back.
[05:17] <_douglas> zyth: actually, that's what I was looking for!
[05:17] <weijie90> cromwell: why do u wanna listen to incoming calls?
[05:17] <_douglas> zyth: It seems that they're not the latest drivers.
[05:17] <_kevin> microhaxo: interesting, you downloaded the source?
[05:17] <weijie90> cromwell: never heard of that
[05:17] <ivoks> chombee: apt-cdrom add
[05:17] <examndirtbag> greetings all
[05:17] <zyth> _douglas, I'm not sure, all I know is they work for me :)
[05:17] <ivoks> Cody_: what video card is that?
[05:17] <chombee> ivoks - thanks, I'll try this
[05:18] <cromwell> wiejie90: lol...im trying to share my cable internet
[05:18] <_douglas> zyth: They work for me too, but I'm trying to get more performance
[05:18] <Cody_> ivoks: oh man, it's some laptop video card... nvidia for sure. Should I install the nvidia drivers first?
[05:18] <jeremym> does anyone know if there is a command line browser installed?
[05:18] <microhaxo> i dloaded this
[05:18] <_douglas> zyth: Running steam with cedega
[05:18] <jeremym> or how to install smb server via ssh
[05:18] <nalioth> jeremym: lynx
[05:18] <microhaxo> Azureus_2.3.0.2_linux.AMD64.tar.bz2
[05:18] <jeremym> lynx isn't there
[05:18] <nalioth> jeremym: or links
[05:18] <jeremym> searched for both.
[05:18] <ivoks> Cody_: lspci will tell you for sure wich one it is
[05:18] <jeremym> not there.
[05:18] <ivoks> lynx sucks
[05:18] <tiglionabbit> or w3m
[05:18] <nalioth> jeremym: how bout elinks?
[05:18] <ivoks> use links or 23m
[05:18] <ivoks> w3m
[05:18] <jeremym> w3m should be there
[05:18] <jeremym> ?
[05:18] <examndirtbag> if i apt-get kubuntu, can I go back to regular ubuntu if i dont like it?
[05:19] <microhaxo> anyway, the problem is with the new java and amd64 kernel
[05:19] <_kevin> microhaxo: Ohh so you want to compile from source... your making it hard on your self my doing this... I'm pretty sure it's int he repositories... and it'll make your life easier doing it through apt-get
[05:19] <Cody_> ivoks: GeForce2 Go
[05:19] <ivoks> examndirtbag: there is not difference beetwean kubuntu and ubuntu
[05:19] <nalioth> examndirtbag: you are just adding kde
[05:19] <zyth> _douglas, have you adjusted the system resources assigned to the program?  I use point2play, and I have to get Video memory to 128mb and AGP memory to 64MB for WoW to run well
[05:19] <tiglionabbit> examndirtbag: you can get kubuntu-desktop, and later you could uninstall it.  It will add a session to GDM (or use KDM) to log in
[05:19] <ivoks> Cody_: i have that one too
[05:19] <ivoks> Cody_: works without a flaw
[05:19] <jeremym> thank's guys
[05:19] <microhaxo> ok kevin give the the repositorie urls to add into
[05:19] <jeremym> w3m works
[05:19] <Cody_> ivoks: weird...
[05:19] <examndirtbag> ok, thanks
[05:19] <\sh> examndirtbag: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop gives u only the additional kde desktop
[05:19] <weijie90> links2 is betta
[05:19] <jeremym> oh, anyone know where the vncserver is?
[05:19] <nalioth> examndirtbag: you will have a choice at login (click on 'sessions')
[05:20] <_kevin> microhaxo: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[05:20] <Cody_> ivoks: it does seem like maybe the hard drive clicks when the pauses occur
[05:20] <microhaxo> I already have those
[05:20] <microhaxo> ....
[05:20] <examndirtbag> quick answers! thanks alot!
[05:20] <tiglionabbit> you're welcome
[05:20] <_douglas> zyth: well, I adjusted them in the profile section of point2play
[05:20] <examndirtbag> well, bye then im gonna try it now.
[05:20] <_douglas> zyth: but not on my box
[05:20] <ivoks> Cody_: you can start with sudo /etc/init.d/laptop-mode stop
[05:21] <_douglas> zyth: well, I mean not anywhere else.
[05:21] <nalioth> Cody_: clicking hard drive spells trouble in morse code
[05:21] <jeremym> is there a vncserver installed? i see a client, no server...if there isn't, how do I get one installed? I tried installing realvnc, but it calls for some libraries that arn't installed
[05:21] <_kevin> microhaxo: search in Synaptic Package Manager for Azureus if you don't find it, it means somethign is wrong with your source list
[05:21] <zyth> that should be all you need.  I dunno man, could just be the limit of what your system can do?
[05:21] <ivoks> Cody_: if that fixes problem, then it's because of your harddrive going to standby
[05:21] <zyth> I gotta run though
[05:22] <microhaxo> not there
[05:22] <ivoks> Cody_: and yes, clicking hard drive is bad, as jeremym told you
[05:22] <weijie90> how do i run a command automatically when kde starts?
[05:22] <nalioth> jeremym: use synaptic to search for whatever you like (pkgs available to install)
[05:22] <Cody_> ivoks: command not found...?
[05:22] <_kevin> microhaxo: I'm sure you made an error while adding the repositories
[05:22] <the_dead> Can someone help me install my Senao SL 2511 EXT2 PLUS?
[05:22] <_kevin> microhaxo: Pm me
[05:22] <jeremym> synaptic is what?
[05:22] <ivoks> Cody_: sudo apt-get install laptop-mode-tools
[05:22] <flodine> a guys why dont my Xdefault work with ubuntu
[05:23] <jeremym> remember, this machine is headless and i'm using SSH for the time being, can i install it via ssh?
[05:23] <microhaxo> Ok
[05:23] <microhaxo> here is my damn problem
[05:23] <Cody_> ivoks: couldn't find package.
[05:23] <_kevin> jeremym: it's hte Package manager for installing and un-installing files
[05:23] <_kevin> the*
[05:23] <ivoks> flodine: .Xdefaults?
[05:23] <ivoks> Cody_: you are using ubuntu, right?
[05:23] <Cody_> ivoks: LMAO, yes.
[05:23] <flodine> ivoks you use xdefaults
[05:23] <ivoks> Cody_: you didn't enable universe, right?
[05:23] <nalioth> jeremym: synaptic is a gui frontend for apt-get (is easily searchable)
[05:23] <the_dead> Can someone help me install my Senao SL 2511 EXT2 PLUS?
[05:24] <Cody_> ivoks: I just installed it. I didn't choose anything universe :)
[05:24] <jeremym> kevin: tried, it's already installed according to that
[05:24] <HostingGeek> OMG Hoary is already released
[05:24] <mimi_imut> hi
[05:24] <HostingGeek> I missed it :|
[05:24] <tiglionabbit> yes it is.  I've been using it for a month, HostingGeek
[05:24] <microhaxo> hahaha
[05:24] <joni_> Already haha
[05:24] <ivoks> Cody_: ah... i have to go now..
[05:24] <HostingGeek> tiglionabbit: I am being sacatic
[05:24] <ivoks> flodine: .Xdefaults
[05:24] <ivoks> flodine: and .Xresources
[05:24] <the_dead> Can someone help me install my Senao SL 2511 EXT2 PLUS?
[05:24] <HostingGeek> hoping someone will fix up the topic
[05:25] <ivoks> flodine: not Xdefaults
[05:25] <Cody_> ivoks: ok.
[05:25] <HostingGeek> tiglionabbit: I have been using breezy for the past 3 months
[05:25] <fivre> Hey, I just used the Users and Groups manager to rename my account, and now ubuntu assumes that I'm not allowed to use sudo anymore... Which is quite a problem, How the heck do I fix that?
[05:25] <chombee> ivoks - do I need to mount the cdrom first?
[05:25] <ivoks> bye all
[05:25] <ivoks> chombee: no
[05:25] <paxon> Anyone else having problems with apt-get update? Is there any change to sources.list?
[05:25] <HostingGeek> tiglionabbit: and hoary for 4 months before it
[05:25] <tiglionabbit> HostingGeek: are you aware of the topic?
[05:25] <flodine> ivoks well i edit my xdefault and aterm colors dont change
[05:25] <Cody_> paxon: mee...
[05:25] <jeremym> thanks for the help
[05:25] <jeremym> im out of here
[05:25] <jeremym> be back tomorrow
[05:25] <chromate> Is it possible to run KDE on Ubuntu?
[05:25] <HostingGeek> tiglionabbit: I am not a n00b...
[05:25] <paxon> Cody_, xplain?
[05:25] <ivoks> flodine: xrdb -merge .Xdefaults
[05:25] <tiglionabbit> lol, fine
[05:26] <Cody_> paxon: what?
[05:26] <paxon> nv, thanks.
[05:26] <HostingGeek> tiglionabbit: I am so much not a n00b that I have been banned from #debian for almost 2 years
[05:26] <chombee> ivoks - apt-cdrom add fails to mount it
[05:26] <joni_> How can I transfer songs to my ipod?
[05:26] <the_dead> Can someone help me install my Senao SL 2511 EXT2 PLUS?
[05:26] <joni_> I can see the songs that are on it but i can't figure out how to transfer songs to it
[05:26] <tiglionabbit> fivre: is your account set to have administrator privileges?  You can edit the sudoers list by saying `visudo`
[05:26] <chromate> joni_: use a program like gtkpod or amarok
[05:27] <joni_> chromate: is it possible with Rhythmbox?
[05:27] <flodine> ivoks thxs man your the Sh...t
[05:27] <tiglionabbit> HostingGeek: why'd that happen?
[05:27] <TotalYK> hi all
[05:27] <TotalYK> i'm using ubuntu for PC desktop
[05:27] <TotalYK> what soft can i using for playing mp3
[05:27] <the_dead> Can someone help me install my Senao SL 2511 EXT2 PLUS?
[05:27] <TotalYK> ?
[05:28] <r0bby> idiot question, how do you remove grub from one drive?
[05:28] <tiglionabbit> TotalYK: you can use several programs ,but you'll need the codecs
[05:28] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[05:28] <ubotu> I guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:28] <HostingGeek> tiglionabbit: who isn't on the ban list in #debian
[05:28] <HostingGeek> !ubotu ubuntu
[05:28] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntu is Open the gates To East and West Bring in all That's good and best. - Lenrie Peter
[05:28] <Guerin> r0bby: replace the boot record with something else
[05:28] <Guerin> ?
[05:28] <tiglionabbit> me, but I haven't been in there for a bit since I started using Ubuntu
[05:28] <microhaxo> what the hell
[05:28] <microhaxo> ./azureus: line 107: /usr/javajava: No such file or directory
[05:28] <HostingGeek> !ubotu ubuntu is #ubotu
[05:28] <ubotu> ...but ubuntu is already something else...
[05:28] <microhaxo> how is that so!
[05:28] <tiglionabbit> I get banned from windows channels more often anyway
[05:29] <HostingGeek> !ubotu forget ubuntu
[05:29] <ubotu> i forgot ubuntu, HostingGeek
[05:29] <HostingGeek> !ubotu ubuntu is #ubotu
[05:29] <Guerin> microhaxo: ls -l /usr/javajava
[05:29] <tiglionabbit> !ubuntu
[05:29] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: I don't know
[05:29] <r0bby> if that doesnt exist install it
[05:29] <cpayan> !ubotu ubuntu
[05:29] <HostingGeek> !ubotu ubuntu is ubuntu
[05:29] <ubotu> okay, HostingGeek
[05:29] <cpayan> hah
[05:29] <cthulfuego> Can we stop abusing the bot now?
[05:29] <microhaxo> what?
[05:29] <cthulfuego> Or do I need to switch it off?
[05:29] <cpayan> "Somebody already said that 10 seconds ago"
[05:30] <cpayan> neat
[05:30] <microhaxo> guerin
[05:30] <microhaxo> what do i do?
[05:30] <HostingGeek> cpayan: WTF where you doing in my channel spamming :D
[05:30] <HostingGeek> cya all
[05:30] <cpayan> just kinda lookin around a bit
[05:30] <_kevin> i wanna post my ubuntu screenshot on ubuntu users screenshot, if there is such a thing
[05:30] <tiglionabbit> what was microhaxo's prob?
[05:30] <r0bby> i have a question
[05:31] <r0bby> actually already asked
[05:31] <r0bby> :P
[05:31] <bassinboy> man, my video is REALLY old, and ubuntu only allows for 640x480........ how can i atleast get 800x600 ?
[05:31] <fivre> hmmm... So, I'm apparently screwed...
[05:31] <the_dead> Can someone help me install my Senao SL 2511 EXT2 PLUS?  I cant get it to work in ubuntu but it works fine on knoppix live cd.
[05:31] <r0bby> how do you remove grub from a drive
[05:31] <cpayan> _kevin, i think there's an art gallery over at ubuntuforums
[05:31] <chombee> ivoks - if I manage to mount the cdrom myself, can apt then use it without having to mount it itself?
[05:31] <tiglionabbit> bassinboy: you can add it as a mode to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:31] <Guerin> r0bby: replace the boot record with something else?
[05:31] <_kevin> ok thanks cpayan
[05:31] <microhaxo> i need to point to the old JAVA files  in azureus or whatever and it says that the directory dont exist.
[05:32] <Guerin> microhaxo: don't use java or azureus -> problem solved
[05:32] <tiglionabbit> chombee: you'll need to add it to sources.list
[05:32] <cthulfuego> Guerin: <heh>
[05:32] <fivre> heck, I don't even have a /etc/sudoers file
[05:32] <tiglionabbit> I like Guerin's solution.  Use bittornado instead
[05:32] <microhaxo> hahaha
[05:32] <microhaxo> that dont work ETHER!
[05:32] <microhaxo> it says installed
[05:32] <microhaxo> but
[05:32] <PaloDeQueso> How do I check my kernel version?
[05:32] <microhaxo> when i click on torrent
[05:32] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: 'uname -a'
[05:32] <bassinboy> uname -a
[05:32] <microhaxo> bah it dont work
[05:33] <chombee> Okay! I mounted the damned thing (the USB connection is faulty, no easy task)
[05:33] <PaloDeQueso> thanks
[05:33] <abarbaccia> anybody here run lirc?
[05:33] <Guerin> microhaxo: that would be your stupid
[05:33] <chombee> tiglionabbit - do you know what the sources line would look like? quick example?
[05:34] <microhaxo> :|
[05:34] <tiglionabbit> chombee: let me check mine
[05:34] <microhaxo> i bet you 100 dollars its not me..
[05:34] <chombee> deb file:/home/user/cdrom
[05:34] <Guerin> microhaxo: i bet you 200 it is.
[05:34] <microhaxo> and its this FKIN os amd64
[05:34] <chombee> or something?
[05:34] <Guerin> microhaxo: what exactly are you doing?
[05:34] <bassinboy> tiglionabbit: it already is a mode in there
[05:34] <microhaxo> omg
[05:34] <microhaxo> hrm
[05:34] <microhaxo> watch
[05:34] <microhaxo> k
[05:34] <tiglionabbit> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted
[05:35] <microhaxo> Ok
[05:35] <microhaxo> i have bittornado extracted
[05:35] <r0bby> put a # ion front of that line
[05:35] <microhaxo> into a folder
[05:35] <microhaxo> NOW
[05:35] <microhaxo> how do i compile it
[05:35] <tiglionabbit> extracted?  microhaxo, just get it from synaptic
[05:35] <tiglionabbit> it's easier
[05:35] <Guerin> wth
[05:35] <microhaxo> its not there
[05:35] <microhaxo> thats my fking   pouint
[05:35] <microhaxo> i have nothing
[05:35] <microhaxo> no WINE
[05:35] <microhaxo> nothing
[05:35] <Guerin> you're too stupid
[05:35] <jokerinthepack51> can soeone please tell me why when i use the live cd of ubuntu that the screen flickers on and off over and over again
[05:35] <jokerinthepack51> ?
[05:36] <capi> How would I make my local IP addresses static? i.e make one computer always have 192.168.1.100 ?
[05:36] <Guerin> microhaxo: read your /etc/apt/sources.list file and follow the instructions contained therein for enabling 'universe'
[05:36] <joni_> microhaxo: do you have universe?
[05:36] <microhaxo> yea
[05:36] <microhaxo> i added them
[05:36] <joni_> microhaxo: then sudo apt-getu pdate
[05:36] <joni_> sudo apt-get update
[05:36] <bassinboy> tiglionabbit: any ideas?
[05:36] <microhaxo> i do
[05:36] <microhaxo> no error
[05:36] <joni_> then search synaptic
[05:36] <joni_> its there
[05:36] <microhaxo> its not there
[05:36] <microhaxo> noo..
[05:37] <jokerinthepack51> anyone?
[05:37] <microhaxo> they dont have shit for my damn AMD64
[05:37] <joni_> what are you searching
[05:37] <Guerin> microhaxo: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install bittornado && btlaunchmanycurses .
[05:37] <microhaxo> bitt
[05:37] <capi> ?
[05:37] <tiglionabbit> bassinboy: so in every "Display" section you have listed something like this: Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[05:37] <chombee> tigglionabbit - I managed to get it with apt-cdrom. Did a man apt-cdrom and saw how to point it at the mount point
[05:38] <bassinboy> tiglionabbit: yes
[05:38] <chombee> it's reading package lists now!
[05:38] <Guerin> mr. chombee has the flaw!
[05:38] <chombee> Guerin - you got it
[05:38] <Guerin> ah, what a choon
[05:39] <tiglionabbit> bassinboy: and so you've restarted X, now can you go to system->preferences->screen resolution and select another one?  If not, I don't know what you can do, short of dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[05:39] <Bisclaveret> Guerin: is that better than the fear?
[05:39] <joni_> ok, lets settle down now
[05:39] <Guerin> Bisclaveret: much.
[05:39] <djs> capi: System -> Administration -> Networking - change properties of desired connection to "Static IP Address"
[05:39] <Guerin> hey joni_, put it all behind you...
[05:39] <bassinboy> tiglionabbit: for one, i have XFree86
[05:39] <tiglionabbit> bassinboy: oh.  why's that?
[05:40] <tiglionabbit> I thought ubuntu used xorg
[05:40] <capi> djs, how do I do that in CLI?
[05:40] <bassinboy> tiglionabbit: not warty
[05:40] <tiglionabbit> o
[05:40] <tiglionabbit> could dist-upgrade, or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[05:41] <paxon> I have a problem with apt-get update, anyone can point me to the right repositories please?
[05:41] <joni_> I have a WUSB11 v2.8, how can i find out if it is atmel based?
[05:41] <microhaxo> yo
[05:41] <microhaxo> this MP3 player wont play my music
[05:41] <_kevin> everyone can check out my current desktop on ubuntuforums under artwork and gnome desktop
[05:41] <microhaxo> amarok
[05:41] <tiglionabbit> paxon: most of the repositories you need are commented out in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:41] <tiglionabbit> there are also the backports repositories
[05:42] <paxon> tiglionabbit, I need a new list.
[05:42] <tiglionabbit> a new list?
[05:42] <paulproteus> microhaxo: Have you been to the Wiki page called RestrictedFormats?
[05:42] <_kevin> microhaxo check if it's using the ALSA or eSound plugin
[05:42] <paulproteus> It may help you, microhaxo.
[05:42] <chombee> ivoks, tiglionabbit - apt-get is asking me to insert the disc on the drive /cdrom now, do you know where it wants me to mount the device? I don't see it specified in sources.list
[05:42] <microhaxo> says no SOUND plugin
[05:42] <microhaxo> :|
[05:42] <djs> capi: One way is to edit (as superuser) the file /etc/network/interfaces
[05:42] <microhaxo> ARE YOU KIDDING ME
[05:42] <microhaxo> I CANT PLAY MY MP3's!
[05:42] <_kevin> microhaxo you can
[05:42] <microhaxo> ...
[05:42] <microhaxo> i almost died
[05:42] <microhaxo> k how?
[05:42] <ghostless> How can I run without starting x11?
[05:42] <_kevin> microhaxo you need the libraries to play them
[05:42] <Guerin> microhaxo: life sucks. better give your computer away and become a travelling monk.
[05:43] <microhaxo> I have like 40 albums
[05:43] <microhaxo> where do i get the libraries?
[05:43] <_kevin> microhaxo synaptic, search mp3
[05:43] <microhaxo> k
[05:43] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[05:43] <ubotu> [restricted]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:43] <tiglionabbit> microhaxo: read that ^
[05:43] <_kevin> microhaxo I have over 1000 albums
[05:43] <microhaxo> there is like 300 mp3 stuff kevin?
[05:44] <chombee> microhaxo - install xmms, beep-media-player, or gstreamer0.8-mad, for example
[05:44] <microhaxo> k
[05:44] <tiglionabbit> amarok is pretty nice
[05:44] <_kevin> there is a library for mp3 files
[05:44] <_kevin> get it
[05:44] <chombee> Anyone know where I should mount a cdrom so that apt-get will find it?
[05:44] <microhaxo> i dont see it kevin?
[05:44] <_kevin> gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:44] <djs> capi:  see "man interfaces" for more info on this file
[05:44] <_kevin> my bad
[05:44] <ghostless> How can I start ubuntu without starting X? As in I want to run all text based
[05:45] <_kevin> microhaxo search for gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:45] <chombee> it is looking for the drive '/cdrom/'
[05:45] <tiglionabbit> chombee: try mounting it there then =P
[05:45] <chombee> tiglionabbit - in /cdrom/, from the root?
[05:45] <microhaxo> installed
[05:46] <fivre> tiglionrabbit: nope, definitely can't get into an admin account
[05:47] <fivre> am I stuck with a reinstall?
[05:47] <chombee> tiglionabbit - it works! I'm apt-getting. Now hopefully if all goes well I can worry about ndiswrapper tomorrow
[05:47] <jem> Please, How may I change the default card sound if I have 2 of them?
[05:48] <chombee> I hope apt-get can survive the buffer errors while installing ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop, shit
[05:48] <chombee> no it can't
[05:48] <bob2> microhaxo: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestriectedFormats
[05:48] <bob2> ghostless: sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*gdm
[05:48] <microhaxo> WTF
[05:49] <ghostless> bob2, what if I want to do it just once or twice
[05:49] <_kevin> netsplit
[05:49] <ghostless> grrr
[05:49] <_kevin> when all these ppl rejoin I'm going to lag
[05:50] <chombee> Is there an apt-get option to make it keep retrying forever in the face of errors?
[05:50] <bob2> ghostless: then emove it from runlevel 3 and boot into that if you wanot no gdm
[05:50] <fivre> ok, anyone else
[05:50] <bob2> chombee: no
[05:50] <ghostless> bob2, ok thats beyond me so nevermind I guess haha
[05:50] <jem> Please, How may I change the default card sound if I have 2 of them?
[05:51] <chombee> bob2 - it seems this cdrom is too error prone to use with apt then
[05:51] <cthulfuego> ghostless: You can use 'rcconf' to quickly switch 'em on and off.
[05:51] <fivre> if I somehow am no longer a sudoer, and I don't have an admin account to visudo, am I stuck reinstalling the OS?
[05:51] <microhaxo> so wtf
[05:51] <bob2> fivre: of course not
[05:51] <bob2> no os is going to make you do that
[05:51] <bob2> jem: disable one on the bios
[05:51] <bob2> chombee: er, apt doesn't care, it's the kernel that's giving up
[05:51] <fivre> ok then, what do I do?
[05:51] <cthulfuego> fivre: No, boot it up in rescue mode and re-add yourself to the sudoers file.
[05:51] <Cody_> ivoks: it's just like it has a brainfart for a second, and then it comes back.
[05:51] <bob2> fivre: reboot.  go to the grub menu.  select "recover".  add yourself to the admin group.
[05:52] <Cody_> I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop... I had fedora previously. With Ubuntu, I have a new problem. A few times per minute, X will simply freeze for a second and resume.
[05:52] <fivre> ah
[05:52] <bob2> also, renaming accounts is a bad idea
[05:52] <fivre> so I learned
[05:52] <ghostless> cthulfuego, ok so where is this "rcconf"
[05:52] <jem> Please, How may I change the default card sound if I have 2 of them?
[05:52] <fivre> that really isn't a good feature...
[05:52] <microhaxo> where do i get a SOUND ENGINE?
[05:52] <ghostless> cthulfuego, nvm
[05:52] <ghostless> cthulfuego, thanks a bunch =)
[05:52] <cthulfuego> ghostless: apt-get install rcconf; rcconf
[05:52] <tiglionabbit> chombee: ?  can't you use apt-cdrom ?
[05:52] <cthulfuego> microhaxo: Buy a second hand car and take it out.
[05:52] <bob2> jem: disable one in the bios
[05:53] <bob2> microhaxo: "sound engine" is not a technical term that exists
[05:53] <microhaxo> what do i search for to get the sound library / codec
[05:53] <tiglionabbit> microhaxo: have you read the restricted formats faq yet?
[05:53] <bob2> microhaxo: you need to be more speciufic
[05:53] <microhaxo> amarok says no sound ENGINE
[05:53] <cthulfuego> microhaxo: What sound library and/or codec?
[05:53] <bob2> microhaxo: the page I pointed you at explains this, I woud assume
[05:53] <microhaxo> it just says
[05:53] <jem> Bob2another way changing a parameter?
[05:53] <microhaxo> Amarok No sound engine
[05:54] <bob2> microhaxo: so, fix amarok
[05:54] <ghostless> cthulfuego, thanks it works easy =)
[05:54] <microhaxo> "No engine loaded, Cannot start playback"
[05:54] <microhaxo> Yea
[05:54] <microhaxo> what file do i neeD?
[05:54] <bob2> microhaxo: search for amaraok and install whatever other packages exist
[05:54] <bob2> no "file"
[05:54] <tiglionabbit> you probably need a library like gstreamer.  I ask for the fourth time, have you read the restricted formats faq
[05:54] <tiglionabbit> ?
[05:54] <chombee> tiglionabbit - I did use apt-cdrom, then I have to mount it to /cdrom, then I can apt-get, but it gets a lot of buffer errors
[05:54] <bob2> jem: blacklist one of the modules in /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[05:54] <paulproteus> microhaxo: If you don't know where to get the restrictedformats faq, ask us. :)
[05:55] <tiglionabbit> chombee: you can mount it wherever you want.  man apt-cdrom
[05:55] <jem> I see
[05:55] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[05:55] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:55] <microhaxo> lol
[05:55] <chombee> tiglionabbit - doesn't matter, I just mounted it where it was looking anyway
[05:55] <tiglionabbit> buffer errors?
[05:55] <microhaxo> k
[05:55] <microhaxo> got it workin
[05:56] <tiglionabbit> um good.  Now enjoy your music, and rtff next time
[05:56] <microhaxo> hahahaha
[05:56] <microhaxo> lol
[05:56] <chombee> tiglionabbit - yeah, hundreds of Buffer I/O error on device sr0. What does it mean?
[05:57] <chombee> is that a hardware problem?
[05:57] <paulproteus> chombee: Means your CD is probably bad.
[05:57] <tiglionabbit> no idea
[05:57] <paulproteus> But I'm surprised your CD-ROM drive shows up at sr0.  Is it external, maybe?  Is it SCSI?
[05:57] <chombee> paulproteus - or the cdrom or the USB connection more likely. The cd was used fine to install on another machine
[05:57] <tiglionabbit> paulproteus: he said it was usb
[05:58] <paulproteus> tiglionabbit: Thanks, sorry I'm in another channel primarily.
[05:58] <paulproteus> Or the drive is allergic to this disc.
[05:58] <chombee> paulproteus - could I have mounted it with the wrong fs? I guess not cause I am able to browse the mounted volume
[05:58] <paulproteus> chombee: No, this is a lower-level problem than picking the wrong filesystem.
[05:58] <paulproteus> lower-level meaning "closer to the hardware".
[05:58] <Bisclaveret> where do all the bits go after building something from apt-get -b source, as in, does it just stay in a directory somewhere after building and installing? will apt-get clean remove them and the working files?
[05:58] <chombee> paulproteus - the USB connection is dodgy
[05:59] <tiglionabbit> say, I have a question.  My drive is formatted as ext3.  When I boot, it says something about ext2fs, and every 30 times it has to check the disk.  This doesn't seem right..
[05:59] <paulproteus> chombee: Oh, I see.
[05:59] <cthulfuego> tiglionabbit: That's normal.
[05:59] <tiglionabbit> I thought ext3 was journaling, and didn't have to fscheck all the time
[05:59] <chombee> Goddamn it! This laptop has no internal cdrom, a broken lan card, an unsupported ext wireless card, and an ext cdrom on a broken USB connection. Argh!
[05:59] <paulproteus> tiglionabbit: In your /etc/fstab , make sure the filesystem is set to 'ext3' rather than 'ext2'.
[05:59] <cthulfuego> tiglionabbit: That would normally equate to a check every 2 years ;-)
[06:00] <paulproteus> chombee: Yeah.  It's times like that I just take the hard drive out and install it on something else.
[06:00] <paulproteus> chombee: Or be *really careful* with the USB.
[06:00] <joni_> Is anyone familiar with the WUSB11?
[06:00] <tiglionabbit> yes, it's ext3
[06:00] <tiglionabbit> so why does it need to check it?
[06:00] <paulproteus> chombee: You may find it easier to do a "server" install rather than a full one from the CD.
[06:00] <chombee> paulproteus - that's whay I did! I did a server install, and ended up with the HD back in and no way to get packages
[06:00] <paulproteus> Then do the rest via network or something...?
[06:00] <paulproteus> chombee: I see.
[06:01] <jem> Bob2,now how I may restart it?
[06:01] <paulproteus> chombee: You didn't happen to copy the CD contents to that hard drive, did you?
[06:01] <paulproteus> (I thought the installer did that automatically at the end, anyway.)
[06:01] <chombee> paulproteus - I put the HD in another machine and did server install, but once I put the HD back I have no network and no cdrom
[06:01] <tiglionabbit> also, I've found if I try to skip the check it fails to start up
[06:01] <PaloDeQueso> I just downloaded linux-source-2.6.10, what link do I make and where to get nvidia drivers to compile a module right?
[06:01] <chombee> paulproteus - explain ?
[06:01] <fivre> bob2: how do I make myself an admin via the GRUB command line?
[06:01] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: Just run module-assistant
[06:01] <paulproteus> The install, if I recall correctly, copies the CD's contents to /var/cache/apt/archives .
[06:01] <tiglionabbit> say, where does it save the log of the messages it prints out when starting up?
[06:02] <PaloDeQueso> cthulfuego , erm, what's that?
[06:02] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: Your saviour.
[06:02] <Quequeg> tiglionabbit, try 'dmesg'
[06:02] <tiglionabbit> Quequeg: nope
[06:02] <paulproteus> chombee: Maybe we should work on getting the wifi to work, so you can get yourself up from there.  What card is it?
[06:02] <PaloDeQueso> cthulfuego , k, brb
[06:02] <paulproteus> (And do you use WEP on your network?)
[06:03] <fivre> or anyone really: how do I make myself an admin via the GRUB command line?
[06:03] <cthulfuego> fivre: adduser <username> admin
[06:03] <chombee> paulproteus - no cd contents at that location. The wireless card is unsupported, may work with ndiswrapper - but I can't download it! Anyway - it's a LinkSys Wireless-G WPC54G
[06:03] <paulproteus> fivre: Pick your default kernel.
[06:03] <cthulfuego> fivre: When that's done, type 'exit' and let the bootup resume.
[06:03] <paulproteus> Do 'e' to edit the command line.
[06:04] <PaloDeQueso> cthulfuego , is there a package I have to install?
[06:04] <paulproteus> Add ' init=/bin/sh' to it, then save it with enter.
[06:04] <tiglionabbit> such disorganized advice
[06:04] <paulproteus> Then do 'b' to boot from that kernel.
[06:04] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: yes, module-assistant :-)
[06:04] <tiglionabbit> I can't even understand what you're telling him to do
[06:04] <chombee> paulproteus - maybe I should put the HD in the other laptop again, download ndiswrapper or whatever might be useful, then put the HD back
[06:04] <tiglionabbit> that's such a weird way to install, chomb
[06:04] <paulproteus> chombee: Agreed.  But you'll want to do research to also get the Windows drivers for the laptop so ndiswrapper can do its thing.
[06:05] <fivre> cthulfuego: that gave me an error message. Am I using the wrong command line?
[06:05] <chombee> paulproteus - okay. I rest now
[06:05] <paulproteus> chombee: Understandable.
[06:05] <cthulfuego> fivre: Did the machine partially boot up and then give you a shell prompt?
[06:05] <Codeman7> Just installed ubuntu, maybe 1-2 times per minute it freezes for a second.... any ideas? I can't move the mouse or type or anything, and then it just comes back
[06:06] <tiglionabbit> a lot of people seem to be complaining about this freezing problem.  I've never seen it though
[06:06] <fivre> err... I typed 'c' for command line at the GRUB menu
[06:06] <paulproteus> fivre: Check out http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3609.html
[06:06] <Codeman7> tiglion: really? on forums or something?
[06:06] <cthulfuego> fivre: That was not what you were supposed to do.
[06:06] <paulproteus> Follow the advice up to step 10 and get back to me once you have finished step 10.
[06:06] <PaloDeQueso> cthulfuego , how do I use this with the nvidia driver install script I downloaded?
[06:06] <fivre> ah
[06:06] <paulproteus> Do nont continue to step 11.
[06:06] <brady> Looking for a tip - gnome system monitor loads, then immediately locks up.  have uninstalled/reinstalled w/ no avail
[06:06] <cthulfuego> fivre: Go abck to the list in grub, and select the 'recovery' option, then boot.
[06:07] <fivre> ok
[06:07] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: You don't, you just tell module-assistant to sort it all out and give you packages.
[06:07] <PaloDeQueso> cthulfuego , have you used this on the nvidia driver?
[06:07] <PaloDeQueso> it comes as an install script.
[06:07] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: yes.
[06:07] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: Did you download the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com?
[06:08] <PaloDeQueso> cthulfuego , yea
[06:08] <Bisclaveret> Codeman7: that sounds like something i've experienced on win95-98 computers with bad FIFO systems :/
[06:08] <Codeman7> FIFO?
[06:08] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: Just trash those. Thou shalt not infect thy bopx with those.
[06:08] <Bisclaveret> First In, First Out
[06:08] <Codeman7> oh ...
[06:08] <PaloDeQueso> cthulfuego : what do you reccoment?
[06:09] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: There are prepackaged Ubuntu nvidia drivers and driver source. module-assistant uses those instead.
[06:09] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: Just run 'module-assistant' and follow the prompts.
[06:09] <PaloDeQueso> cthulfuego , I was hoping to get the latest drivers for better performance though?
[06:10] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: Why are you so hell-bent on breaking your machine?
[06:11] <PaloDeQueso> cthulfuego , I'm not, I was just hoping for a better frame rate, but if they're that unstable I won't install the latest onces, I already have the ubuntu driver on my box and running well.
[06:11] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: They won't give you a higher framerate.
[06:11] <PaloDeQueso> cthulfuego , oh.
[06:11] <tiglionabbit> you don't have to be mean about it, cthulfuego
[06:12] <cthulfuego> tiglionabbit: I wasn't aware I was.
[06:12] <PaloDeQueso> cthulfuego , it's fine
[06:13] <PaloDeQueso> cthulfuego , ok, then let me ask this... Do I have to set anything up like how much ram I have or anything like that or should it already be set up for the best performance?
[06:13] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: Any driver that requires that info can access the number under /proc.
[06:13] <microhaxo> Guys, how do i install this file, cedega.tgz?
[06:13] <microhaxo> can i extract it?
[06:13] <microhaxo> or do i need to install?
[06:13] <tiglionabbit> microhaxo: tar xvzf cedega.tgz
[06:13] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: You can (optionally) tell X how much vram you have, but it will justd etect it by itself if you specify nothing.
[06:14] <PaloDeQueso> cthulfuego , I c.
[06:14] <cthulfuego> microhaxo: cedega comes as a .deb file, use that one.
[06:14] <PaloDeQueso> cthulfuego , so basically it's as good as it gets.
[06:14] <tiglionabbit> that's X for extract, V for verbose, Z for gZip, f for a file
[06:14] <tiglionabbit> er, but lower case
[06:14] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: unless you upgrade the card or the cpu, yeah.
[06:14] <tiglionabbit> yeah, deb's easier
[06:15] <cthulfuego> microhaxo: YOu didn't ask about p2p software so that you could download a pirated cedega, did you?
[06:15] <tiglionabbit> hehe
[06:15] <PaloDeQueso> cthulfuego , thanks, I guess I'll just deal with the slow emulated framereates of cedega and steam :(
[06:15] <microhaxo> lol
[06:15] <microhaxo> no
[06:15] <microhaxo> i dloaded a CVS
[06:16] <microhaxo> still cant get fkin BITTORENT TO WORK!
[06:16] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: Cedega ought to be able to use hardware 3d, does here.
[06:16] <microhaxo> doesnt winex work just as good as cedega?
[06:16] <PaloDeQueso> cthulfuego , no it runs, just not near as fast as it does in windows, like I get a 20 fps difference
[06:16] <tiglionabbit> microhaxo: sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui
[06:16] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: yeah, but that's not surprising... it's non-native after all.
[06:17] <PaloDeQueso> yea but people reported faster fps with roughly my same specs, and I even turned down the video settings.
[06:18] <microhaxo> how do i
[06:18] <microhaxo> convert a tgz to .deb
[06:18] <microhaxo> ?
[06:18] <tiglionabbit> microhaxo: you don't want to do that
[06:18] <zyth> alien
[06:18] <microhaxo> ?
[06:18] <zyth> but it's evil
[06:19] <microhaxo> then how the hell do i install
[06:19] <microhaxo> this .tgz
[06:19] <witless> i've installed hedgehog, but when it boots to the desktop i just get the coffee background, and that's it.  mouse moves, but nothing else works (can't get to a console or anything)...  any suggestions?
[06:19] <microhaxo> ?
[06:19] <tiglionabbit> microhaxo: I told you
[06:19] <tiglionabbit> tar xvzf cedega.tgz
[06:19] <microhaxo> that dont work
[06:19] <microhaxo> ...
[06:19] <tiglionabbit> then cd into it and read the readme
[06:19] <microhaxo> oh
[06:19] <microhaxo> it did
[06:19] <microhaxo> lol
[06:20] <microhaxo> where did it install it
[06:20] <microhaxo> lol?
[06:20] <tiglionabbit> microhaxo: that just extracted it.  Now you need to compile it
[06:20] <microhaxo> Aw shit
[06:20] <tiglionabbit> look for a file in it called INSTALL or README and read that for instructions
[06:20] <microhaxo> k
[06:20] <tiglionabbit> that's what you get from CVS, microhaxo
[06:20] <zyth> um
[06:20] <zyth> I have .debs for cedega
[06:20] <zyth> oh
[06:20] <microhaxo> :|
[06:20] <zyth> you used CVS
[06:21] <microhaxo> i think it is compiled?
[06:21] <microhaxo> i have a usr folder?
[06:21] <microhaxo> inside of that is bin
[06:21] <microhaxo> and bonch of shit
[06:21] <microhaxo> with a cedega console file?
[06:21] <tiglionabbit> ?  if you just extracted a tgz from cvs, it wont be compiled
[06:22] <microhaxo> i dont see any .c files?
[06:22] <cthulfuego> Hmm. /me finds and trashes a 1.2GB ~/.transgaming.cruft directory
[06:22] <zyth> unless he got an 'evil' precompiled ver.
[06:22] <tiglionabbit> microhaxo: do you see a README or INSTALL file?
[06:22] <microhaxo> no
[06:22] <microhaxo> lol
[06:22] <dreaddydave> is there a file that says make on it?
[06:22] <tiglionabbit> any documentation at all?
[06:22] <microhaxo> no
[06:22] <microhaxo> none
[06:22] <microhaxo> lol
[06:22] <zyth> did you find this on a torrent site?
[06:22] <microhaxo> just
[06:22] <alex__> guys, can anyone help me?
[06:22] <microhaxo> no
[06:22] <microhaxo> its online
[06:22] <zyth> lol
[06:22] <microhaxo> free
[06:22] <microhaxo> ubuntu forums
[06:22] <alex__> i have a question
[06:22] <tiglionabbit> is there a file called autogen.sh or install.sh ?
[06:23] <zyth> sounds like precompiled.
[06:23] <microhaxo> no
[06:23] <dreaddydave> right they give away the cvs
[06:23] <alex__> about dual OS booting
[06:23] <zyth> alex__, don't ask to ask, ask, and if someone can help you, they will.
[06:23] <alex__> ok, tnx
[06:23] <statico> How can I install a really old version of a package, one that's probably not even on the mirrors? I'm trying to get xserver-xorg=6.8.1-1ubuntu16
[06:23] <alex__> this is my first time with linux and irc
[06:23] <dulouz> tgz file could also be a slackware package
[06:24] <statico> Not that it *will* install, I just want to see what requires a newer version.
[06:24] <microhaxo> Oh
[06:24] <dulouz> in which case, not source
[06:24] <zyth> dulouz, if it was, he could alien it.
[06:24] <microhaxo> there is a doc folder
[06:24] <microhaxo> how the hell do i install this sh*t
[06:24] <microhaxo> it extracted a USR folder
[06:24] <microhaxo> with all stuff inside
[06:24] <alex__> http://ubuntuguide.org/#addwindowsentrygrubmenu here author says "Assumed that /dev/hda1 is the location of Windows partition"
[06:24] <alex__> but mine windows partition is hdb1
[06:25] <tiglionabbit> microhaxo: cvs isn't always stable.  It's meant for developers to work on
[06:25] <microhaxo> i dont care
[06:25] <microhaxo> i just want to install it..
[06:25] <microhaxo> :|
[06:25] <tiglionabbit> go ask the developers
[06:25] <microhaxo> lmao
[06:25] <alex__> what exactly i should type in menu.list except (hd0,0)?
[06:25] <microhaxo> common
[06:25] <zyth> alex__, I *think* hd(1,0) BUT don't quote me on that, read the grub manpage
[06:26] <cthulfuego> (0,0) is sda1 or hda1
[06:26] <alex__> ah, ok, tnx anyway
[06:26] <cthulfuego> alex__: See /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/ for a sample.
[06:26] <zyth> cthulfuego, is 1,0 hdb1?
[06:26] <cthulfuego> zyth: yep
[06:26] <zyth> ok so I was right
[06:26] <zyth> but still, read the docs ;)
[06:26] <cthulfuego> zyth: Well, hda1 in my case, coz 0,0 is sda1 :-)
[06:26] <alex__> cool, tnx everyone
[06:27] <zyth> I gotta feed my WoW account some time
[06:27] <steph> does anyone know of a guide to install the new ati drivers that Wont make me screw up X so i have to reinstall
[06:27] <zyth> it won't let me play, grr.
[06:27] <alex__> LINUX ROCKS! WINDAZ SUcKS! My bests 2 everyone
[06:27] <cthulfuego> steph: module-assistant
[06:27] <zyth> that was odd.
[06:27] <microhaxo> Right, can someone just tell me how i can install this, i have a usr folder, bin lib folders
[06:27] <steph> cthulfuego, what's that?
[06:28] <microhaxo> in the bin there is a CEDEGA terminal deal
[06:28] <zyth> microhaxo, well, you could be insane, chdir to /, and as root tar -zxvf cedega.tgz
[06:28] <zyth> and hope it doesn't kill things
[06:28] <microhaxo> Lol
[06:28] <microhaxo> another option
[06:28] <zyth> cause that's what it sounds like it wants
[06:28] <microhaxo> well
[06:28] <zyth> I have .deb's.
[06:28] <zyth> they work better :P
[06:28] <microhaxo> i tried to run it
[06:28] <microhaxo> get these errors
[06:28] <microhaxo> p: cannot stat `/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//.transgaming/tg_config_version': No such file or directory
[06:28] <microhaxo> Update complete
[06:29] <zyth> yeah
[06:29] <zyth> you don't have that dir
[06:29] <microhaxo> wtf is that all about
[06:29] <zyth> unless you decompress from /
[06:29] <zyth> probably
[06:29] <microhaxo> so i have CVS?
[06:29] <microhaxo> or is it compiled
[06:29] <microhaxo> ?
[06:29] <zyth> No you have some wonky precompiled ver
[06:29] <microhaxo> how the hell do i use it?
[06:29] <zyth> you could uncompress it as root and hope it works
[06:29] <zyth> from /
[06:29] <microhaxo> how do i do that?
[06:29] <Codeman7> I have Ubuntu on my laptop. Maybe 1-2 times per minute, it just freezes for a second (the entire X interface) and then comes back.
[06:30] <zyth> open terminal, cd to / and sudo tar -zxvf cedega.tgz
[06:30] <zyth> but you could do nasty nasty things to your ubuntu if that is malicious in any ways
[06:31] <dreaddydave> you're not going to be able to insall cedega from cvs
[06:31] <microhaxo> yay
[06:31] <microhaxo> i got an RPM
[06:31] <microhaxo> convert to DEB
[06:31] <microhaxo> so
[06:31] <gpd> Codeman7: me too
[06:31] <gpd> Codeman7: but more like 5 mins
[06:31] <microhaxo> sudo alien -d cedega-200050214-cvs.i586.rpm
[06:32] <dulouz> speaking of Wine, i've only recently switch from SuSE to Ubuntu. Searching in Synaptic Package Manager, I don't even find Wine. i think i have all the repositories from /etc/apt/sources.list available
[06:32] <cthulfuego> microhaxo: Just don't actually expect it to work, though.
[06:32] <zyth> http://www003.portalis.it/115/gtngursngsn85m5699865.html
[06:32] <zyth> if ti doesn't work, get WineX from there
[06:33] <zyth> might work :)
[06:33] <cthulfuego> or just use a stable version.
[06:33] <microhaxo> i got that
[06:33] <microhaxo> k
[06:33] <Codeman7> gpd: any solutions?
[06:33] <microhaxo> how do i convert rpm to dEB?
[06:33] <zyth> alien, I think
[06:33] <microhaxo> the exact command? cuz it says no directory when i do alien -d filename
[06:34] <cthulfuego> microhaxo: 'man alien'
[06:34] <gpd> Codeman7: not as yet:  messages like ide2 wait for ready failed before probe!
[06:34] <microhaxo> there we go
[06:34] <microhaxo> :D
[06:34] <Codeman7> gpd: where are you seeing these?
[06:34] <microhaxo> aww shit
[06:34] <gpd> Codeman7: possibly ide2=0x1F0 in grub
[06:34] <microhaxo> it extracted it
[06:34] <gpd> Codeman7: /var/log/syslog just b4 hang
[06:35] <microhaxo> to a cedega folder
[06:35] <microhaxo> now waht i do?
[06:35] <gpd> Codeman7: hang only recoverable with Ctrl-Alt-Prtscrn-S-U-B = you too?
[06:35] <Codeman7> I don't see anything :/
[06:35] <witless> anyone know what might cause ubuntu to freeze on start-up with a blank coffee background, and nothing responding but the mouse?
[06:35] <gpd> Codeman7: no... not sure that is the right error
[06:35] <microhaxo> guys
[06:35] <gpd> Codeman7: sometimes freeze recovers but top says all is well
[06:36] <tiglionabbit> dunno witless.  Tried switching to a virtual terminal and running 'top' to see what programs are active?
[06:36] <microhaxo> i did man alien -p filename.rpm
[06:36] <microhaxo> it made a folder with contents
[06:36] <zyth> um
[06:36] <microhaxo> how do i install now?
[06:36] <Codeman7> gpd: see, mine just freezes for a second or two and always returns
[06:36] <gpd> microhaxo: you have the same as me and Codeman7
[06:36] <microhaxo> huh?
[06:36] <gpd> microhaxo: mine freezes on Gnome login
[06:36] <witless> tiglionabbit: i tried, but i couldn't even do that - no response at all.  had to reset the machine.
[06:36] <microhaxo> not me
[06:36] <microhaxo> im kde
[06:37] <gpd> microhaxo: but also freezes in rescue!
[06:37] <Codeman7> micro: i'm sure it's not a gnome problem
[06:37] <microhaxo> im not gnome
[06:37] <microhaxo> lol
[06:37] <microhaxo> im kde
[06:37] <microhaxo> lmao
[06:37] <microhaxo> anywho
[06:37] <gpd> i had breezy and all good... then downgraded to hoary and this!
[06:37] <microhaxo> why didnt this command : man alien -p filename.rpm   make a deb? it made a folder instead
[06:37] <gpd> i tried multiple kernels but no joy
[06:37] <Codeman7> gpd: it's probably something simple
[06:37] <Codeman7> gpd: like HD sleeping or video card or something
[06:38] <gpd> tried apic off no joy
[06:38] <gpd> nope... it is on boot
[06:38] <Codeman7> gpd: laptop by any chance?
[06:38] <gpd> yes
[06:38] <Codeman7> me too
[06:38] <Codeman7> hmm
[06:38] <gpd> but all ok b4 with hoary pre-release
[06:38] <gpd> maybe they changed a kernel setting
[06:38] <gpd> mabye i should try warty and upgrade with sources.list
[06:38] <microhaxo> Yoo, why did that command man alien -d take my rpm to a foldeR?!
[06:39] <microhaxo> and how do i install it from folder?
[06:39] <gpd> microhaxo: alien just creates a .deb
[06:39] <microhaxo> yea
[06:39] <gpd> you have to use dpkg -i file.deb
[06:39] <microhaxo> well mine made a folder
[06:39] <alex__> can anyone tell me how to make a folder in "start"-application list for CrossOver and programms that were installed with crossover?
[06:39] <Codeman7> gpd: I have this weird feeling it has something to do with power management] 
[06:40] <limer> morning all
[06:40] <gpd> Codeman7: I tried apic off... and apm not supported on my laptop
[06:40] <microhaxo> gpd what?
[06:40] <microhaxo> so i do
[06:40] <microhaxo> man alien -d cedega-2005.rpm then what?
[06:40] <Codeman7> gpd: hmmm.
[06:41] <Codeman7> micro: you using a laptop too?
[06:41] <gpd> microhaxo: why -d ?
[06:41] <microhaxo> why not?
[06:41] <microhaxo> lol
[06:41] <microhaxo> what option to i do?
[06:41] <gpd> can't remember... no option?
[06:41] <gpd> isn't cedega in multiverse?
[06:42] <cthulfuego> microhaxo: run 'man alien' and read how to use it. Don't make up command lines and hope they work.
[06:42] <microhaxo> haha
[06:42] <microhaxo> i was right
[06:42] <microhaxo> -d = deb
[06:42] <microhaxo> :P
[06:42] <cthulfuego> microhaxo: alien created DEBs byd efault on Debian (and by association on Ubuntu)
[06:42] <microhaxo> then wtf
[06:42] <microhaxo> what command
[06:42] <dr_willis> the cedega home page had .pkg's the other day
[06:43] <microhaxo> alien cedega.rpm?
[06:43] <dr_willis> but not sure wht cedega-2005 is :P
[06:43] <gpd> if alien works it should produce cedega.deb
[06:43] <cthulfuego> microhaxo: ... which you would know, had you read the manpage.
[06:43] <microhaxo> i didnt get this FROM THEM
[06:43] <microhaxo> it is a CVS compile
[06:43] <microhaxo> now
[06:43] <microhaxo> how do i convert this rpm to deb the EXACT COMMAND?
[06:43] <gpd> alien cedega.deb
[06:43] <gpd> (-d is default)
[06:43] <microhaxo> k
[06:44] <gpd> try file cedega.rpm
[06:44] <gpd> s/cedega.deb/cedega.rpm/
[06:44] <gpd> dpkg -i cedega.deb
[06:44] <fivre> Ok then...
[06:44] <gpd> if file cedega.rpm doesn't say it is rpm then something is wrong
[06:45] <gpd> Codeman7: what is your plan for fix?
[06:45] <fivre> I've made myself part of the root user group, and went into vi and edited myself into the sudo text thing, and I still can't use sudo...
[06:45] <microhaxo> aww shit
[06:45] <microhaxo> that wont work
[06:45] <microhaxo> it wont convert to .deb
[06:45] <gpd> what does it say?
[06:45] <microhaxo> sudo alien Cedega-2005.rpm
[06:45] <microhaxo> LOTS O SHIT
[06:45] <microhaxo> i mean lots
[06:46] <microhaxo> like
[06:46] <microhaxo> dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: could not find any packages for  (libasound.so.2)
[06:46] <microhaxo> dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: unable to find dependency information for shared library libasound (soname 2, path , dependency field Depends)
[06:46] <microhaxo> 10x more
[06:46] <gpd> apt-get install libasound
[06:46] <gpd> bla bla
[06:46] <gpd> rpm dependencies are *painful*
[06:46] <fivre> so, how do I make myself a sudoer again?
[06:47] <microhaxo> sudo -s
[06:47] <cthulfuego> Those are WARNINGS, not ERRORS.
[06:47] <gpd> sudo /etc/sudoers
[06:47] <cthulfuego> fivre: Are you on the shell?
[06:47] <microhaxo> it didnt make the rpm
[06:47] <gpd> sudo vim /etc/sudoers
[06:47] <microhaxo> IT MADE a damn FOLDER AGAIN
[06:47] <microhaxo> not a .deb
[06:47] <microhaxo> :|
[06:47] <gpd> add yourlogin   ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:47] <fivre> ctulfuego/gpd: yes, and that's what I did
[06:47] <gpd> it is not making a deb due to failed dependencies.. you must fix them
[06:48] <microhaxo> omg
[06:48] <microhaxo> how do i fix
[06:48] <microhaxo> :|
[06:48] <fivre> and It still doesn't work
[06:48] <cthulfuego> fivre: Ok. Run 'adduser <yourlogin> admin'
[06:48] <pfp> hmm.. have you seen this: xcftopnm: protocol error (1) at /usr/lib/perl5/Gimp/Net.pm line 67. (ERROR)
[06:48] <gpd> microhaxo: reboot into windows and play there ;-P
[06:49] <fivre> I don't seem to have a user group named admin... I added to the root group, which didn't seem to help either :(
[06:49] <gpd> lol
[06:49] <gpd> fivre: if you are running ubuntu you should be in sudo automatically
[06:49] <gpd> fivre: what did you do to break it?
[06:49] <cthulfuego> fivre: When the machine boots up normally, can your user account login ok?
[06:49] <fivre> yes
[06:49] <tiglionabbit> he said he messed up from the users and groups manager
[06:49] <Codeman7> ok
[06:49] <fivre> it just can't sudo anymore
[06:50] <Codeman7> so I'm trying to compile a program... it says "no suitable cc found in path"
[06:50] <tiglionabbit> so what he needs to do is boot as root from grub
[06:50] <Codeman7> what do i do?
[06:50] <tiglionabbit> Codeman7: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:50] <Codeman7> Thank you :)
[06:50] <fivre> I also tried to add a user of the same name as the original, but it can't log in
[06:53] <tiglionabbit> fivre, you simly need to boot as root.  I don't know how to do it but I know it's possible.  Read about GRUB
[06:53] <tiglionabbit> *simply
[06:53] <fivre> no, I did that
[06:53] <tiglionabbit> then visudo
[06:53] <gpd> fivre: http://www.linuxhelp.ca/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=6285
[06:53] <gpd> sorry that was meant for microhaxo
[06:54] <gpd> fivre: just edit /etc/passwd and /etc/groups by hand and make sure it is correct
[06:54] <gpd> fivre: did you try su - ?
[06:55] <Codeman7> how do I compile a c file?
[06:55] <Codeman7> gcc -o name.c name.o?
[06:55] <gpd> Codeman7: s/name.o/name/
[06:55] <_Cat> name.o -o is redundant
[06:55] <Codeman7> ok, thanks
[06:55] <Codeman7> got it
[06:55] <fivre> that gets an 'Authentication Failure'
[06:56] <gpd> fivre: su - should be your root password
[06:56] <gpd> fivre: you can boot into single user to change root password... grub single
[06:56] <gpd> sudo is your own password (as you know I hope)
[06:57] <fivre> hmm...
[06:57] <family_> Does a heatsink fan blow in or out?
[06:57] <PlutoPrime> anyone knows of a email checker app for gnome that doesn't crash/fail in some strange manner like mail-notification
[06:57] <HrdwrBoB> family_: it blows onto the heatsink
[06:57] <family_> thanks
[06:58] <family_> i love this channel :)
[06:58] <gpd> this channel is freaking crazy!
[06:58] <gpd> it's like 1995 all over again ;-)
[06:58] <gpd> those debian boys would lolz to see this
[06:58] <jsgotangco> heh
[06:58] <Codeman7> I need to rip a .asf to an actual windows media file... can anyone help me?
[06:59] <Codeman7> I think mplayer can do it, but I don't know how
[06:59] <gpd> you say 99.999% of this in #debian you'd be kick in 3 secs
[06:59] <gpd> Codeman7: are you doing 27 things at one or something?
[06:59] <Codeman7> gpd: yeah.
[06:59] <family_> HrdwrBoB:, is there anyway besides turning a fan on to see which direction it blows?
[07:00] <PlutoPrime> so gnome does not have an email checking app???
[07:00] <PlutoPrime> bah
[07:00] <gpd> family_: look at the fan fins ...
[07:00] <HrdwrBoB> family_: all computer fans spin clockwise
[07:00] <family_> yes...
[07:00] <family_> ok
[07:00] <gpd> PlutoPrime: which gnome?
[07:00] <pfp> PlutoPrime: gnome-biff it was called i think, an applet
[07:00] <family_> i'm confused
[07:01] <pfp> PlutoPrime: gnubiff
[07:01] <family_> If i wanted to make a fan blow down, how would i figure it out
[07:01] <family_> my brain is spinning in circles lol
[07:01] <family_> i think i need to draw a picture in the gimp
[07:01] <pfp> heh
[07:02] <pfp> the fans have small arrows on them btw :)
[07:02] <family_> where?
[07:02] <pfp> on the side
[07:02] <gpd> family_: if this is a cpu fan it *should work* - how difficult can it be?
[07:02] <jem> How I get this message when try to play MIDI?ALSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed
[07:03] <PlutoPrime> pfp, thanks.. that sounds like a good app but I forgot to mention Ineed gmail support :(
[07:03] <PlutoPrime> mail-notification worked fine on another comp
[07:03] <gpd> gmail = use firefox extension
[07:03] <PlutoPrime> on this one when I add the account it crashes
[07:03] <PlutoPrime> and when I restart it, it fails to login to gmail
[07:03] <family_> gpd: what do you mean?
[07:03] <PlutoPrime> gpd, I need something that runs even when I don't have a browser
[07:03] <gpd> PlutoPrime: there is a firefox extension for gmail
[07:04] <gpd> oh
[07:04] <family_> I just took apart my heatsink to clean out all the dust, and now i forgot which way it went on
[07:04] <pfp> oh, a cpu heatsink fan
[07:04] <family_> ya...
[07:04] <jem> How I get this message when try to play MIDI?ALSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed
[07:04] <family_> Got any tips?
[07:05] <family_> I have one clue
[07:05] <pfp> imo they can blow in either direction, doesn't matter much
[07:05] <family_> More dust is on one sid then the other...
[07:05] <family_> does that mean that side was up or down?
[07:05] <pfp> down probably, thats where the mess is
[07:06] <family_> but on a fan...
[07:06] <family_> OMG!
[07:06] <family_> im so confused
[07:06] <family_> haha
[07:06] <family_> Hardware bob, are you here?
[07:06] <pfp> a fan is a fan is a fan :)
[07:06] <family_> but i don't want to fry my CPU
[07:06] <pfp> and /me hasn't slept for some time..
[07:07] <family_> the room temperature is really high this time of year
[07:07] <HrdwrBoB> hello?
[07:07] <HrdwrBoB> the label side of the fan goes up
[07:07] <family_> there we go, we have an answer :)
[07:07] <family_> thanks bob
[07:07] <family_> so if the label is up the fan will blow down, right?
[07:07] <ardob11> what's a good torrent client for linux; Azureus has problems with ports
[07:08] <ghostless> Are there any good widget programs?
[07:08] <family_> gdesklets
[07:08] <ghostless> ok cool thanks
[07:08] <family_> yep
[07:08] <limer> also family_ : http://www.techspot.com/vb/all/windows/t-4922-SLK900-heatsink-fan-blowing-OUT--13-degrees-LOWER-temps.html
[07:08] <HrdwrBoB> family_: correct
[07:08] <family_> Great, thanks a lot bob
[07:08] <family_> thats a good tip to know
[07:09] <HrdwrBoB> ardob11: if azureus isn't working, then others won't work either
[07:09] <ardob11> HrdwrBob: bittornado works but its annoying with all the windows
[07:10] <fivre> finally
[07:10] <fivre> darn thing was writing to a tmp file
[07:10] <ardob11> i had the same problem in windows, bitcomet works but not azureus and I dont' have access to the firewall
[07:11] <fivre> now I just need to find a way to make Xchat stop sucking (or find a better client), and make my fancy mouse worth something
[07:12] <b0xy> kind of a n00b question about X11 and ubuntu?
[07:12] <Codeman7> fivre: irssi is nice
[07:13] <nalioth> ardob11: use "gnu screen" and btdownloadcurses.py <<<found in most bittorrent based proggys
[07:13] <b0xy> I'm having trouble getting it to go to the resolution I want in Gnome
[07:13] <microhaxo> Guys
[07:13] <microhaxo> how the HELL
[07:13] <microhaxo> ok
[07:13] <microhaxo> thats it
[07:13] <fivre> isn't that one all text?
[07:13] <Codeman7> fivre: I guess... it's nice though
[07:13] <fivre> I want my XiRCON-kano back :(
[07:13] <microhaxo> Ok
[07:14] <microhaxo> how do i install wine?
[07:14] <LinuxNIT> what program does ubuntu use to auto mount file systems?
[07:17] <paxon> Anyone knows a good perl color logs program?
[07:18] <kakalto> would anyone here just put some unfamiliar os onto your computer, with no indication if it'll work, and no idea what it's like?
[07:19] <Bisclaveret> does anyone in here know much about x-chat and character sets?
[07:19] <kakalto> like, if you'd heard quite a lot of bad things about it, especially?
[07:20] <Bisclaveret> kakalto: trying to install OS/2? ;)
[07:20] <kakalto> lol, actually I was wanting to trial WinXP, but.... there's no evaluation for downlod >_>
[07:20] <kakalto> *download
[07:20] <b0xy> can someone help me with a little GUI config problem? I just need to get it to display 800x600 instead of 640x***
[07:21] <microhaxo> Guys, i have the AMD 64 kernel of kubuntu, HOW CAN I DLOAD and install WINE please.
[07:21] <b0xy> it feels like I'm close to getting it I just don't know enough to figure out what's wrong
[07:23] <cthulfuego> microhaxo: haha.
[07:23] <cthulfuego> microhaxo: Wine doesn't run on amd64.
[07:23] <microhaxo> wtf
[07:23] <microhaxo> cant i run it in 32bit mode?
[07:23] <microhaxo> its a damn amd 64 it can run 32 bit
[07:24] <cthulfuego> microhaxo: Sure, you'll need a 32bit chroot.
[07:24] <microhaxo> wtf does that mean?
[07:25] <microhaxo> im new damn
[07:25] <microhaxo> i have gone too far on this kernel to REINSTALL EVERYTHING..
[07:25] <limer> maybe this will help microhaxo: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&highlight=wine+amd64
[07:25] <b0xy> cthulfuego: you mind helping me quick with GUI probleM?
[07:26] <cthulfuego> b0xy: What gui problem?
[07:26] <b0xy> I can't seem to get it to display in 800x600 mode
[07:26] <cthulfuego> b0xy: What video card?
[07:26] <Bisclaveret> does anyone in here know what charset i would need to be in (using X-Chat) to properly join a channel with a  in the name?
[07:26] <Bisclaveret> utf-8 it looks alright to me but i'm really joining a channel with <name-backslash-copyright-dotted A> or somesuch. ISO8859-15 looks allright to other users, but i still create a new channel
[07:27] <b0xy> ATI Technologies, Inc. Mach64 VT (264 VT)
[07:27] <cthulfuego> Bisclaveret: utf8 or anything with -15 in it
[07:27] <b0xy> that's what's auto-detected
[07:27] <lamont> what do we have for editing pdf's, I wonder...
[07:27] <microhaxo> wine works fine on amd64
[07:27] <b0xy> I have all the monitor settings set exactly
[07:27] <cthulfuego> b0xy: *nod* Did you run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and enable higher resolutions?
[07:27] <alex__> hey, guys, i was trying to install Age of Empires with Cedega and got some problems - plz help
[07:27] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe
[07:27] <alex__> wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' is not owned by you
[07:27] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo chown alex /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu
[07:27] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe
[07:27] <alex__> wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' is not owned by you
[07:27] <TestDummy> Anybody know much about tweaking Gnome?
[07:27] <b0xy> cthulfuego: yes
[07:27] <Quest-Master> TestDummy: What for?
[07:28] <Bisclaveret> cthulfuego: every time i try i simply create a new channel with me in it, with the same name as the channel already there, instead of joining the channel
[07:28] <b0xy> I disabled all resoltuions except 800x600 in xorg.conf
[07:28] <TestDummy> I'm trying to use a dark background, with a transparent panel, and the black text doesn't show up well on a dark background.
[07:28] <TestDummy> Anyway to change the text colour?
[07:28] <Quest-Master> Mmm, yeah
[07:28] <cthulfuego> Bisclaveret: Hmmm.
[07:28] <Codeman7> uuuugh
[07:28] <Codeman7> mplayer takes FOREVER to compile
[07:28] <b0xy> cthulfuego: I'm using 24bit. should I try switching down to something else? 16 bit?
[07:28] <b0xy> cthulfuego: it's just in Gnome GUI that I have problems with it
[07:28] <cthulfuego> b0xy: Try can try, but it shouldn't make a difference.
[07:29] <TestDummy> Somebody told me before it was theme dependant but...
[07:29] <alex__> are there any other ways to change ownership of directory besides  command chown?
[07:29] <Quest-Master> TestDummy: Check /etc/fonts/fonts.conf and see if you can change the colors there
[07:29] <cthulfuego> b0xy: Are there other options in System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution?
[07:29] <cthulfuego> alex__: no
[07:29] <b0xy> cthulfuego: ok yeah. that messed it up
[07:30] <TestDummy> Eck..
[07:30] <TestDummy> "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE.
[07:30] <TestDummy> 	IT WILL BE REPLACED WHEN FONTCONFIG IS UPDATED."
[07:30] <alex__> cthulfuego but why wine argue with me that i still don't own "/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu"
[07:31] <b0xy> cthulfuego: no. the only option is 640x400
[07:31] <RuffianSoldier> havent used linux in months :d
[07:31] <TestDummy> I don't see much about font colours in there anyway
[07:31] <alex__> RuffianSoldier !
[07:31] <microhaxo> Wtf
[07:31] <cthulfuego> b0xy: Did it also only show 640x400 when you didn't have specific monitor info in xorg.conf?
[07:31] <b0xy> cthulfuego: yes
[07:31] <microhaxo> is it ILLEGAL to add a line into the sources.list?
[07:31] <cthulfuego> b0xy: What monitor do you have?
[07:31] <microhaxo>  deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/
[07:31] <microhaxo>  deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/
[07:32] <b0xy> cthulfuego: I had to input the specific monitor refresh and sync to even get into GUI
[07:32] <b0xy> cthulfuego: Pavilion M40
[07:32] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe
[07:32] <alex__> wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' is not owned by you
[07:32] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo chown alex /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu
[07:32] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe
[07:32] <alex__> wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' is not owned by you
[07:32] <alex__>    
[07:32] <microhaxo> YO
[07:32] <microhaxo> how the hell
[07:32] <alex__> and again and again
[07:32] <kvidell> ahck
[07:32] <microhaxo> why cant i add these lines to sources.list?
[07:32] <microhaxo>  deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/
[07:32] <microhaxo>  deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/
[07:32] <kvidell> You broke bitchx
[07:32] <cthulfuego> alex__: Why are you running cedega as root?
[07:32] <kvidell> good job
[07:33] <alex__> i don't think i run it as root
[07:33] <microhaxo> YO why cant i add these damn lines to sources.list
[07:33] <microhaxo> !
[07:33] <ubotu> Wish i knew, microhaxo
[07:33] <microhaxo>  deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/
[07:33] <microhaxo>  deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/
[07:33] <microhaxo> it says
[07:33] <cthulfuego> alex__: Yes, you do.
[07:33] <Quest-Master> alex__: sudo makes it so
[07:33] <alex__> or you mean i don't need to use command sudo?
[07:33] <microhaxo> E: Malformed line 30 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[07:33] <kvidell> what's the error?
[07:33] <kvidell> mmm....
[07:33] <kvidell> oh
[07:33] <microhaxo> ?
[07:33] <alex__> ha, i'll try to do it without sudo
[07:33] <kvidell> you need to tell it a distrobution at the end I think
[07:33] <microhaxo> ?
[07:33] <kvidell> just throw the word "hoary" on the end of the line
[07:33] <TestDummy> There's got to be an option somewhere for this..
[07:33] <microhaxo> k
[07:34] <kvidell> (after a space, of course)
[07:34] <limer> microhaxo: maybe sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
[07:34] <GMAN2003> anyone know of an app to monitor temps from the cpu and mainboard as well as current cpu speed and such....??
[07:34] <microhaxo> shit
[07:34] <alex__> damn, shit
[07:34] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe
[07:34] <alex__> wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' is not owned by you
[07:34] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo chown alex /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu
[07:34] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe
[07:34] <alex__> wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' is not owned by you
[07:34] <microhaxo> E: Malformed line 30 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[07:34] <microhaxo> still says it
[07:34] <Quest-Master> alex__: No sudo!
[07:34] <microhaxo> :|
[07:34] <microhaxo> wtf
[07:34] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe
[07:34] <alex__> wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' must not be accessible by other users
[07:34] <Quest-Master> :\
[07:34] <kvidell> you messed up the install by running it sudo
[07:35] <TestDummy> Hm..
[07:35] <kvidell> chown it to alex:alex and try again
[07:35] <alex__> huh?
[07:35] <kvidell> that directory
[07:35] <kvidell> sudo chown alex:alex that-directory-here
[07:35] <kvidell> then run it again as your user, sans sudo
[07:35] <alex__> ok
[07:35] <TestDummy> GMAN2003: Something like that works with lmsensors?
[07:35] <kvidell> that directory/that file
[07:35] <kvidell> whatever it was that it was mad about
[07:35] <GMAN2003> any sensors off the mobo's bios
[07:36] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo chown alex:alex /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu
[07:36] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe
[07:36] <alex__> wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' must not be accessible by other users
[07:36] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe
[07:36] <alex__> wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' is not owned by you
[07:36] <kvidell> as for microhaxo: pm me a few lines of your sources.lst that have other sources plus those
[07:36] <kvidell> hm
[07:36] <TestDummy> That's what that package does last I checked
[07:36] <kvidell> okay
[07:36] <kvidell> do it again to that directory this time
[07:36] <microhaxo> k
[07:36] <kvidell> it was mad about the file, now it's mad about it's parent directory
[07:36] <RuffianSoldier> how do i get apt-get to fully work? i havent used Ubuntu in so long i forget
[07:36] <b0xy> cthulfuego: it doesn't seem to matter what info I put in for my monitor/screen. I try different settings and still get 640x400 in the GUI Resolution options
[07:37] <bob_> RuffianSoldier, "fully work"?
[07:37] <RuffianSoldier> idk
[07:37] <limer> when something is in the clipboard, where is it actually located in ubuntu?
[07:37] <RuffianSoldier> i cant download fluxbox....
[07:37] <RuffianSoldier> its non-existent in repos
[07:37] <alex__> ha, the same thing actually
[07:37] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo chown alex:alex /home/alex/.transgaming
[07:37] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe
[07:37] <alex__> wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' must not be accessible by other users
[07:37] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe
[07:37] <alex__> wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' is not owned by you
[07:38] <microhaxo> yo guys, what the hell is wrong with this sources.list it wont let me add the two last lines to dload wine..
[07:38] <microhaxo> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/85
[07:38] <cthulfuego> alex__: chmod 600 /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu
[07:38] <b0xy> cthulfuego: any ideas?
[07:38] <cthulfuego> alex__: And stop running cedega through sudo
[07:38] <cthulfuego> b0xy: Still looking...
[07:38] <RuffianSoldier> nvm im out
[07:38] <RuffianSoldier> cya
[07:39] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ chmod 600 /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu
[07:39] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe
[07:39] <alex__> wine: chdir to /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu : Permission denied
[07:39] <GMAN2003> so have you guys heard that Verizon is doing fiberoptic to your house!!! 30mbps if you can get it!! holy balls
[07:39] <cthulfuego> b0xy: What do you have the refresh rates set to at the moment?
[07:39] <microhaxo> 30mbps is 100 dollars
[07:39] <GMAN2003> 200
[07:39] <microhaxo> 15mbit is 40
[07:39] <cthulfuego> alex__: chmod 700 /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu
[07:39] <microhaxo> :D
[07:39] <cthulfuego> GMAN2003: there is no verizon here
[07:39] <b0xy> cthulfuego: HorizSync    31.468-54.0
[07:39] <b0xy> VertRefresh 56.0-85.0
[07:40] <limer> microhaxo: I just edited my sources.list with nano without issues
[07:40] <limer> did you use "sudo"?
[07:40] <cthulfuego> b0xy: *nod* ok.
[07:40] <TestDummy> "VertRefresh Strobelight - 85.0" XD
[07:40] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ chmod 700 /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu
[07:40] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe
[07:40] <TestDummy> 56 is terrible
[07:41] <TestDummy> Heh.
[07:41] <GMAN2003> na matter what the telco, you can get verizon as your home phone, the local telco then runs the fiber, verizon is just the middle man
[07:41] <TestDummy> Sorry.
[07:41] <b0xy> old HP Pavilion pull
[07:41] <b0xy> :P
[07:41] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ chmod 700 /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu
[07:41] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe
[07:41] <b0xy> this comp is a Nu Tech 17in LCD
[07:41] <microhaxo> GUYS
[07:41] <b0xy> so much easier on the eyes
[07:41] <alex__> /usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/bin/wine: cannot find '/mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe'
[07:41] <Myrtti> hrmrhm
[07:41] <cthulfuego> b0xy: Does it run in better resolutions under other OSes?
[07:41] <Myrtti> knitting is fun
[07:41] <microhaxo> i now see winetools in my synaptic, but i cannot install it?
[07:41] <microhaxo> i click install
[07:42] <microhaxo> and it just doesnt select it
[07:42] <Sword-AwAy> Buenas
[07:42] <Sword-AwAy> alguien disponible?
[07:42] <Sword-AwAy> xD
[07:42] <b0xy> cthulfuego: it runs fine with XP at 800x600
[07:42] <cthulfuego> b0xy: Ok.
[07:43] <limer> microhaxo: if the package name is winetools.  go to the command line and try:  sudo apt-get install winetools
[07:43] <limer> close synaptic
[07:43] <alex__> THANKS EVERYONE! IT WORKS!
[07:43] <microhaxo> l
[07:43] <microhaxo> k
[07:43] <GMAN2003> testdummy, so after i install libsensors, where the crap am i running it from?
[07:44] <microhaxo> wtf
[07:44] <microhaxo> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:44] <microhaxo>   winetools: Depends: wine (>= 0.0.20040914) but it is not installable
[07:44] <microhaxo> ?
[07:45] <cthulfuego> b0xy: Can you just try 8bit?
[07:46] <GMAN2003> i am struggling to run my installed apps, need help....  *sigh
[07:46] <b0xy> cthulfuego: one sec
[07:46] <limer> microhaxo: lotsa 'wtf'  :P
[07:46] <microhaxo> yea what the hell is that about
[07:46] <limer> microhaxo: might try:  sudo apt-get remove wine
[07:46] <PlutoPrime> GMAN2003, libsnesors is a library for sensors
[07:46] <PlutoPrime> it's not an app
[07:46] <PlutoPrime> you cant run libraries
[07:46] <PlutoPrime> what did you instal libsensors for?
[07:46] <limer> then could always try:  sudo apt-get install wine
[07:46] <microhaxo> Package wine is not installed, so not removed
[07:47] <cthulfuego> GMAN2003: if libsensors is installed and lm-sensors is installed, run 'sudo sensors-detect'
[07:47] <GMAN2003> well is there such a thing as an app to detect cpu and mobo temps?
[07:47] <microhaxo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:47] <microhaxo> is only available from another source
[07:47] <microhaxo> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[07:47] <PlutoPrime> GMAN2003, listen cthulfuego  :)
[07:47] <cthulfuego> GMAN2003: .. after you have installed modules and configured them, you can run 'sensors'.
[07:47] <limer> microhaxo: you might try googling some of your answers
[07:47] <microhaxo> yea
[07:47] <microhaxo> tell me about it
[07:47] <b0xy> cthulfuego: that loads and lets me choose different resolution settings in GUI
[07:48] <b0xy> cthulfuego: only problem is that it's 8bit so viewing it sucks ass
[07:48] <cthulfuego> b0xy: Is 800x600 available now?
[07:48] <limer> microhaxo: I haven't had the chance to play with WINE, but might since I really miss Irfanview :D
[07:48] <b0xy> cthulfuego: yes. several choices are available
[07:48] <cthulfuego> b0xy: Hmm... so X doesn't think the screen (or gfx card) can go high enough.
[07:49] <microhaxo> limer
[07:49] <limer> ?
[07:49] <microhaxo> im gonna dload the SOURCE from winehq
[07:49] <microhaxo> can you help me manually install?
[07:49] <GMAN2003> cthulfuego, okay, ran that, went through the options, where can i see any temps, specs, etc.??
[07:50] <aisowner> i just tried installing the new ATI driver .. but when i do a fglrx .. i dont see my ati or radeon 9800 . .i see a Mesa driver ?
[07:50] <b0xy> cthulfuego: so what should I do about it?
[07:50] <limer> microhaxo: wish I could man but I should probably be off to bed soon.  besides, I'm a noob too :D  I found most of your answers by googling or using my knowledge of cli to help
[07:50] <limer> :D
[07:50] <b0xy> someway I can reconfigure or choose a different driver?
[07:50] <PlutoPrime> GMAN2003, once you get your temps etc showing checkout the app "gdesklets" , it uses the sensors to show the temps in pretty display on your desktop
[07:50] <aisowner> anyone know why its saying mesa instead of fglrx ?
[07:51] <PlutoPrime> it does a lot more than that too.. lots of applets for gdesklets
[07:51] <limer> microhaxo: and ubuntuguide.org helps a lot
[07:51] <microhaxo> yea, but
[07:51] <microhaxo> im runnin the damn amd64 version
[07:51] <microhaxo> so everything is fubar
[07:52] <bob_> lol
[07:52] <microhaxo> lol
[07:52] <microhaxo> it runs fine
[07:52] <GMAN2003> Plutoprime, so once i download gdesklets, where will i run that app from?
[07:52] <microhaxo> but they dont have the packages set up at all
[07:52] <goofyheadedpunk> I did a server install, and need a compiler. I don't have an internet connection, so I'd like to apt-get from my CD. According to this page: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html#s-cdrom I can issue the command "apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom add" to add cdrom to sources.list. I do that and then issue "apt-get install build-essentials", but it doesn't work. I'm told that it "Couldn't find package build-essen
[07:52] <microhaxo> Ok guys i have the wine.rpm
[07:52] <PlutoPrime> GMAN2003, it will install an icon in your gnome menu somewhere
[07:52] <microhaxo> how do i install?
[07:53] <b0xy> cthulfuego: what do I do about it?
[07:53] <PlutoPrime> GMAN2003, do a google search for gdesklets and go to their websites
[07:53] <microhaxo> ok guys, i have the wine.rpm how can i install this?
[07:53] <PlutoPrime> GMAN2003, you have to download modules or applets to view the temperature
[07:53] <GMAN2003> bullshit it will, shit never shows up.....
[07:53] <goofyheadedpunk> Any clues as to why this isn't working?
[07:53] <GMAN2003> i download it using synaptic
[07:53] <PlutoPrime> yea
[07:53] <PlutoPrime> synaptic should have version .34
[07:54] <alex__> /home/alex/TransGaming_Drive/Program Files/Microsoft Games/Age of Empires II
[07:54] <PlutoPrime> I think gdesklets goes under Accessories
[07:54] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$ cd /home/alex/TransGaming_Drive/Program Files/Microsoft Games/Age of Empires II
[07:54] <alex__> bash: cd: /home/alex/TransGaming_Drive/Program: No such file or directory
[07:54] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~$
[07:54] <alex__> what i should type instead of "Program Files"?
[07:55] <GMAN2003> plutoprime; heres the other thing, i swear i must have downloaded a good 100 different new apps and programs, but they do not show up on my gnome? any ideas?
[07:55] <PlutoPrime> GMAN2003, not every app shows up in your gnome menu, specially 3rd party crap you find on the net
[07:55] <PlutoPrime> GMAN2003, open up a terminal and type the command to run the app
[07:55] <PlutoPrime> or click the Application menu and click Run .. then type the name
[07:55] <alex__> any ideas how to change "long names" in console?
[07:56] <Quest-Master> alex__: Put it in ""s
[07:56] <PlutoPrime> GMAN2003, gnome menu system still needs work.. and so does linux package management... don't expect the identical behavior of windows installers
[07:56] <Ghetek> !seen kassetra
[07:56] <ubotu> kassetra <~kassetra@c-67-171-201-213.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 2d 20m 14s ago, saying: 'ds installs just fine, and both are runnign.'.
[07:57] <david__> I'm having trouble getting a new Ubunto installation to recognize the 1280x768 screen on my Sony TR3A.  Checked Google and found some settings for the "Monitor" section of Xorg.conf, but that didn't do the trick.  Any ideas?
[07:57] <GMAN2003> oh yeah, i discovered that within the first half hour
[07:57] <GMAN2003> so frickin manual about installing crap..... learning patience
[07:57] <Seveas> alex__, either escap epaces, like Program\ Files or use quotes like "/blabal/Program Files"
[07:57] <PlutoPrime> GMAN2003, just be patient and play around with linux for fun... once you get comfortable with things it will be a joy.. but patience!
[07:58] <Seveas> david__: GNULinuxer: To find out ho you can change your display's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:58] <PlutoPrime> GMAN2003, and linux is a lot younger than windows.. but see how far it has come!
[07:58] <Seveas> PlutoPrime, ENOTTRUE
[07:58] <Seveas> linux and windows are of about the same age
[07:58] <anacron> PlutoPrime: playing with linux is like "crash boom wtf, i can fix it, i'll reinstall it"
[07:58] <alex__> ok, it works with "", 10x
[07:58] <anacron> can't
[07:58] <alex__> ;p
[07:58] <Seveas> and linux was there before windows NT was
[07:58] <GMAN2003> oh yeah, if i could get comfortable to configure things the way i would like, it would be glorious and light years ahead of windows..... the potential is there
[07:58] <Seveas> anacron, that's plying with windows :)
[07:59] <PlutoPrime> well.. I have been using linux for 7 years...
[07:59] <PlutoPrime> and I have used distros like gentoo where I compiled everything from scratch...
[07:59] <GMAN2003> yeah, about 7 hours total now
[07:59] <PlutoPrime> so I understand your frustration :)
[07:59] <anacron> Seveas: no, you can't play with windows, because it crashes before you start
[07:59] <GMAN2003> i like its networking characteristics way better than windows, that is a huge plus
[07:59] <PlutoPrime> I remember the first days hehe
[08:00] <b0xy> gah
[08:00] <b0xy> I can't figure out why this doesn't work
[08:00] <GMAN2003> i was about to throw my box out the window just learning how to install java
[08:00] <Seveas> anacron, :)
[08:00] <GMAN2003> what a nightmare........ *sigh*
[08:00] <PlutoPrime> GMAN2003, go to www.ubuntuforums.org
[08:00] <Seveas> GMAN2003: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[08:00] <PlutoPrime> very nice place to learn how to do things in linux
[08:00] <Seveas> GMAN2003: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[08:00] <Seveas> PlutoPrime, again ENOTTRUE
[08:01] <PlutoPrime> do a search for any topic you are having problems with
[08:01] <GMAN2003> well yeah, i got all that down now
[08:01] <Seveas> forums contain too much crap
[08:01] <Seveas> better look at the wiki
[08:01] <GMAN2003> flash, adobe, etc..... not bad now
[08:01] <GMAN2003> frickin sucked tho
[08:01] <GMAN2003> oh its much easier to install than that Seveas
[08:01] <thoreauputic> Seveas: and the mailing list
[08:01] <PlutoPrime> Seveas, I don't see you trying to help the fellow.. and "crap" is a very relative word when it comes to information
[08:01] <GMAN2003> just did it from synaptic i think, or was it terminal
[08:01] <PlutoPrime> I have had a lot of fun looking through the forums
[08:01] <GMAN2003> oh well
[08:02] <Seveas> PlutoPrime, I gave him links too good sources of info..
[08:02] <Seveas> that's helping
[08:02] <Seveas> giving misinformation is not :)
[08:02] <Seveas> GMAN2003, ah backports or another java repository?
[08:02] <PlutoPrime> you are certainly entilted to your opinion regarding misinformation
[08:03] <Seveas> PlutoPrime, it's not an opinion
[08:03] <Seveas> it's a fact
[08:03] <anacron> PlutoPrime: seveas has resqued me like 1000 times, so don't blame he gives bad information
[08:03] <GMAN2003> so what do you guys think about fedora?
[08:03] <GMAN2003> havent tried it yet
[08:03] <PlutoPrime> for example, under howto's in the forum there is a script that installs: java, mp3, flash, ttfonts etc etc
[08:03] <Seveas> PlutoPrime, that SUCKS!
[08:03] <GMAN2003> i couldnt get their damn cds to burn, so i said f it and went ubuntu
[08:03] <Seveas> it adds backports/marillat by default
[08:03] <Seveas> things that really should be avoided
[08:03] <wills> hi anyone willing to chat with me
[08:03] <Seveas> it teaches/explains nothing
[08:03] <anacron> GMAN2003: if we would like fedora, this channel wouldn't be named ubuntu
[08:04] <Seveas> and OUCH i'd never run a random script I got of some forum
[08:04] <anacron> wills: chating about what?
[08:04] <cary> bob2: still around?
[08:04] <Seveas> GMAN2003, compared to Ubuntu, FC4 isn't that good
[08:04] <Seveas> FC4/redhat are incompatibility galore
[08:04] <cary> seveas: i made the plunge! i am now dual booting
[08:04] <Seveas> cary, nice :)
[08:05] <cary> i have SO MUCH to learn
[08:05] <anacron> im triplebooting!
[08:05] <cary> im still fighting on how to install the flashplayer plugin
[08:05] <anacron> ain't that cool
[08:05] <Seveas> cary, http://wiki.ubuntu.com :)
[08:05] <wills> hi anacron . how r u . this is reg one network montioring tool
[08:05] <Seveas> cary, simply enable universe/multiverse and apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[08:05] <GMAN2003> really?  i keep seeing alot of major websites having RPM packages that would seem even easier to install
[08:05] <Seveas> cary: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:05] <cary> seveas: general linux... moving directories. i remember "ls" but thats it.
[08:05] <cary> ahh
[08:05] <Seveas> cary: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[08:06] <cary> i remember reading that a bit
[08:06] <anacron> wills: :D okey...
[08:06] <Seveas> GMAN2003, rpms are inferior to debfiles
[08:06] <wills> any one knows how to config Nagios
[08:06] <PlutoPrime> GMAN2003, ubuntu uses deb packages.. you can install rpm but I don't recommend it
[08:06] <Seveas> and apt is a great way of staying up to date and resolving dependencies
[08:06] <Seveas> rpm is all about rpm hell :)
[08:06] <GMAN2003> yeah, thats true.... i'd agree, updating with one line is nice
[08:06] <anacron> apt-get is why i use ubuntu :D
[08:06] <wills> hi anacron do u know
[08:06] <Seveas> never being able to find a good rpm/srpm sucks...
[08:07] <anacron> wills: what should i know?
[08:07] <wills> nagios configuration
[08:07] <anacron> wills: nope
[08:07] <HrdwrBoB> wills: nagios configutation is time consuming and moderately complicated
[08:07] <wills> hi seveas do u know nagios configuration
[08:07] <anacron> wills: you don't have to ask personally
[08:08] <Seveas> wills, I don't even know what nagios is, otherwise i would have helped you :)
[08:08] <Seveas> wills, maybe /usr/share/doc/nagios  or man nagios or google can help you
[08:08] <PlutoPrime> nagios is a pain in rear
[08:08] <PlutoPrime> that's what it is
[08:08] <HrdwrBoB> the nagios documentation is ok but it's not structured well
[08:08] <Seveas> what exactly is it supposd to do?
[08:09] <PlutoPrime> enterprise network monitoring tool
[08:09] <HrdwrBoB> it's a monitoring program
[08:09] <Seveas> ah :)
[08:09] <PlutoPrime> network and server monitoring etc
[08:09] <wills> i want to run nagios as a network monitor
[08:09] <Seveas> I don't need that here :)
[08:09] <wills> i installed it after that there is no proper documation in nagios websites
[08:10] <viork> http://viork2.blogspot.com/ Spansh soft
[08:10] <viork> http://viork2.blogspot.com/ Spansh soft
[08:10] <viork> http://viork2.blogspot.com/ Spansh soft
[08:10] <witless> when i log into ubuntu, immediately after entering login/pwd Xorg processor use goes to 99.9% ....  any help?  it's a dual athlon, gigabyte mobo, nvidia geforce video card...
[08:10] <GMAN2003> well im outtie, have a good one.... later
[08:10] <wills> its installed automatically. after that how to config
[08:11] <wills> hi witless restart from the begining and give auto installiation
[08:11] <witless> wills: what do you mean auto installation?
[08:12] <wills> yes
[08:12] <wills> any body know how to config nagios
[08:12] <witless> wills: what do you mean by "auto installation"?
[08:13] <tobi_> is there a way for mulitple programs to use the same audio device in Ubuntu?
[08:13] <tiglionabbit> is there a vnc client I can use in a web browser?
[08:13] <wills> when cd boots it will ask u
[08:13] <Seveas> wills, stop repeating that often. Clearly no one knows. Ask again later or use the mailing list
[08:13] <PlutoPrime> wills, try google! :) I think the documentation is your best help
[08:13] <tiglionabbit> tobi: yes
[08:13] <wills> just enter
[08:13] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[08:13] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:13] <tobi_> nice
[08:13] <Seveas> tobi_, that's what ESD is for
[08:13] <tobi_> ahhh
[08:13] <PlutoPrime> memorizing the setup process for nagios is NOT easy
[08:13] <tobi_> i will do so
[08:13] <cary> seveas: im in the synaptic manager and i have this list of stuff but i have no idea what to do as for getting to the flash thing
[08:13] <Seveas> cary, have you enabled universe & multiverse already?
[08:14] <tiglionabbit> cary: flash?  You can install flash through firefox
[08:14] <martinjh99> Morning - Which dev package do you need for GTK progs?
[08:14] <wills> hi plutoprime . can u explain me
[08:14] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, bad idea...
[08:14] <tiglionabbit> what do you mean bad idea?
[08:14] <tiglionabbit> it worked for me
[08:14] <Bisclaveret> how do i install the CURRENT mozilla suite? is there no apt-get package?
[08:14] <Seveas> hmm eek, ok good idea
[08:14] <Seveas> flashplayer is only in marillat
[08:14] <martinjh99> apt-get install mozilla
[08:14] <wills> any body knows postfix
[08:14] <PlutoPrime> wills: http://www.nagios.org/docs/
[08:14] <PlutoPrime> that's all I can do
[08:15] <Seveas> cary, use the firefox plugin manager to install flash
[08:15] <cary> seveas: all i saw was each ubuntu thing listed with a check box or something telling me about if they were universe blahhhhhhhhhhhh
[08:15] <cary> let me try to find it
[08:15] <cary> and where on earth would i put this "apt-get" crap. terminal?
[08:15] <Seveas> cary, yes
[08:15] <Bisclaveret> martinjh99: there is no mozilla package. there is mozilla-browser, which is what i want, but mozilla-browser installs 1.7.6, not the current 1.7.8
[08:16] <tiglionabbit> crap?
[08:16] <tiglionabbit> Bisclaveret: welcome to debian
[08:16] <Seveas> Bisclaveret, how old is 1.7.8/
[08:16] <wills> any postfix experts
[08:16] <Seveas> ?
[08:16] <Bisclaveret> like, a week i think
[08:16] <Seveas> Bisclaveret, that'll never be in hoary
[08:16] <tiglionabbit> many of the packages have features backported, so they are newer than the version they are marked as
[08:16] <martinjh99> Bisclaveret> Ahh right
[08:16] <cary> seveas: i dont actually see a plug in manager for firefox. whre is that?
[08:16] <Seveas> hoary is stable, so no new features are introduces
[08:17] <Seveas> wait for breezy to get a newer mozilla
[08:17] <martinjh99> Which dev package do you need for GTK progs?
[08:17] <Bisclaveret> 1.7.7 has been out for a long while :p
[08:17] <tiglionabbit> cary: go to a website that uses flash, such as newgrounds.com, and click on the puzzle piece icon that shows up in Flash's place
[08:17] <_root_> can someone display the o/p of PATH
[08:17] <Seveas> cary, what tiglionabbit said :)
[08:17] <cary> i tried that
[08:17] <tobi_> that ESD is great
[08:17] <Bisclaveret> it was introduced after the IDN? spoofing
[08:17] <witless> ok, my problem seems to be related to gnome.  i can start X and it works OK.  but if i run gnome-terminal in X (no window manager or anything), it locks up
[08:17] <tobi_> I just got my new laptop
[08:17] <cary> it said that i have to do it manual
[08:17] <cary> ly
[08:17] <tobi_> it is an HP nc6000
[08:17] <Seveas> Bisclaveret, how old exactly?
[08:17] <cary> i have downloaded the file but it says i cant install it from a GUI
[08:17] <tobi_> I wiped the XP drive
[08:17] <Seveas> newer that say, march ?
[08:17] <thoreauputic> Bisclaveret: the version number in Ubuntu doesn't changes, but security fixes are applied
[08:17] <tobi_> and installed Ubuntu
[08:17] <Bisclaveret> if i had a browser, i could tell you ;)
[08:17] <alex__> installed Firestarter firewall but after lunching it says "Failed to start firewall Device eth0 is not ready" what to do?
[08:17] <witless> correction:  Xorg proc use goes to 99.9% (not lock up, technically)
[08:17] <martinjh99> _Root_ Heres my path: /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[08:18] <tobi_> wouldnt go back ever
[08:18] <cary> and i cant figure out how to navigate to where it is to try to run the crap in terminal
[08:18] <transgress> what's a good place to get wallpapers from... i need more!
[08:18] <Seveas> transgress, gnome-look.org / art.gnome.org
[08:18] <martinjh99> transgress>art.gnome.org kde-look.org for two...
[08:18] <tiglionabbit> alex__: activate eth0, you can say "ifup eth0"
[08:18] <thoreauputic> alex__: sudo ifup eth0
[08:18] <transgress> Seveas: good thinking...
[08:18] <_root_> martinjh99 : thanx.. is it for root user ?
[08:18] <transgress> thanks
[08:18] <Bisclaveret> on trying to install the program from the website download, i cannot install it
[08:18] <martinjh99> _root_ nope thats my user path
[08:18] <cary> seveas: it keeps on sayin gi have to do it manually. when i get that file..what do i do with it.
[08:19] <Bisclaveret> bisclaveret@Dragon:~/mozilla$ ./mozilla-installer
[08:19] <Bisclaveret> ./mozilla-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:19] <alex__> alex@ubuntu:~/Programs/CrossOver$ sudo ifup eth0
[08:19] <alex__> Password:
[08:19] <alex__> ifup: interface eth0 already configured
[08:19] <tiglionabbit> =\  dunno cary, worked for me.  What you can do is enable the universe and multiverse repositories, and look for the package mozilla-flashplayer
[08:19] <cary> i still cant figure out how to enable them
[08:19] <tiglionabbit> alex__: um, ifdown, then ifup again?
[08:19] <cary> i cant find anythign in the synaptic dilly
[08:20] <_root_> martinjh99 : can you send me the root's ?
[08:20] <tiglionabbit> cary: settings->repositories, click the Settings button, check the "show disabled repositories" box, and then start checking boxes
[08:20] <Seveas> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11
[08:20] <cary> tiglionabbit: incidentally, is there an easier way than typing out tiglionabbit to say something to you (not like a pm, but a shortcut to typing a user name)
[08:20] <martinjh99> _root_  /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin
[08:20] <Seveas> cary, tig<tab>
[08:21] <Seveas> you're gonna love tab completion
[08:21] <tiglionabbit> cary: use irssi and do what Seveas said
[08:21] <martinjh99> Seveas thanks for that - Works in XChat too!
[08:21] <cary> tiglionabbit, nice Seveas nice
[08:21] <Seveas> it also works for filenames in the linux terminals :)
[08:21] <_root_> martinjh99 : thanx
[08:21] <tiglionabbit> not all clients do it.  But yeah, you can use tab completion in many places
[08:21] <martinjh99> _root_ NP
[08:21] <cary> tiglionabbit, irssi?  i JUST install linux. i know almost notlhign
[08:21] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, don't scare a newbie off with irssi :)
[08:21] <cary> tiglionabbit,  do ALL these boxes need to bechecked?
[08:21] <tiglionabbit> cary: it's an irc client that runs in the terminal.  There's a package on synaptic.
[08:22] <cary> like hell i am digging into terminal yet
[08:22] <tiglionabbit> read this guide and you might like it http://f0rked.com/core/irssi
[08:22] <cary> GUI is fine for me right now.
[08:22] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: it's installed by default in Ubuntu :)
[08:22] <martinjh99> Xchat is a nice client too.  Graphical X client!
[08:23] <tiglionabbit> cary: linux isn't perfect.  You may find some things are a lot easier to do on the commandline.  So make time to familiarize yourself with it eventually
[08:23] <cary> tiglionabbit, so now i have all those boxes checked (though ih ave no idea what it actualy did)
[08:23] <tiglionabbit> cary: it adds places for synaptic to download packages from
[08:23] <tiglionabbit> when you refresh, it will grab the lists of packages from the places you selected
[08:24] <_root_> martinjh99 : you are having ubuntu, right ?
[08:24] <tiglionabbit> then more things will be listed in synaptic, and you can go search through it
[08:24] <Bisclaveret> so if i do an apt-get install mozilla-browser or mozilla-firefox, i'm stuck with 1.7.6 for mozilla and 1.0.2 (2 versions beind, including some very critical fixes) for firefox?
[08:24] <martinjh99> _root_ Yup - Nice little distro :)
[08:24] <tiglionabbit> Bisclaveret: it is the most current version of firefox.  All features have been backported
[08:24] <Bisclaveret> while 1.7.8 and 1.0.4 are included in all debian packages except oldstable :/
[08:25] <tiglionabbit> the version number is just.. wrong.  You can change it by typing about:config into your address bar and changing the version string
[08:25] <Seveas> Bisclaveret, for breezy there are newerv version. For hoary there will just be security patches
[08:25] <Seveas> and /me has just waken up, so forgive me my bad spelling :)
[08:26] <kafeine> lol
[08:26] <kafeine> Bisclaveret, backports
[08:27] <cary> tiglionabbit, and then you said to "look for the package mozilla-flashplayer"....where? what?....HUH?
[08:28] <tiglionabbit> hm, direct question and then disappearence
[08:28] <alxwind> is there any other command to activate eth0 besides "ifup"?
[08:28] <tiglionabbit> hm.
[08:28] <pfp> ip link set eth0 up .)
[08:28] <alxwind> sorry
[08:28] <Seveas> alxwind, try ifdown to deactivate and retry ifup
[08:28] <tiglionabbit> there is the ifconfig ones
[08:28] <alxwind> i tried
[08:29] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, ifup calls these :)
[08:29] <cary> i guess i got disconnected
[08:29] <wills> anyanyyyy
[08:29] <alxwind> firestarter doesn't load
[08:29] <tiglionabbit> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//WiFiHowto
[08:29] <alxwind> alex@ubuntu:~/Programs/CrossOver$ sudo ifdown eth0
[08:29] <alxwind> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.1
[08:29] <alxwind> Copyright 2004 Internet Systems Consortium.
[08:29] <alxwind> All rights reserved.
[08:29] <alxwind> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP
[08:29] <alxwind> ppp0: unknown hardware address type 512
[08:29] <alxwind> sit0: unknown hardware address type 776
[08:29] <tiglionabbit> cary: in synaptic, there's a search button
[08:30] <alxwind> ppp0: unknown hardware address type 512
[08:30] <alxwind> sit0: unknown hardware address type 776
[08:30] <tiglionabbit> click on it, and search for flash
[08:30] <Seveas> alxwind, read the topic
[08:30] <cary> tiglionabbit, i typed in flash..noting came up
[08:30] <Seveas> DO NOT paste in here
[08:30] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, flash is not in multiverse
[08:30] <Seveas> only in marillat
[08:30] <tiglionabbit> Seveas: really?  I see flashplayer-mozilla in my list..
[08:31] <paxon> guys, how do I go back to gdm and make gnome default?
[08:31] <Seveas> awkward
[08:31] <martinjh99> paxon> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm - Choose GDM
[08:31] <Seveas> paxon, select gnome from the gdm list and it'll ask you whether gnome should be the default
[08:32] <paxon> Seveas, tried that, didnt work.
[08:32] <tiglionabbit> to get back to gdm, just log out
[08:32] <paxon> martinjh99, ty.
[08:32] <martinjh99> paxon> NP
[08:32] <tiglionabbit> didn't work how?  When you click on sessions, select gnome, and log in, does it not ask you if you want it to be default?
[08:33] <paxon> worked like a charm :)
[08:33] <kafeine> lol
[08:33] <Seveas> ahhhh
[08:34] <Seveas> cary, there is no flashplayer for macs
[08:34] <tiglionabbit> =[
[08:34] <thoreauputic> paxon: lucky for you there was a mind reader in the chan ;)
[08:34] <tiglionabbit> that sucks.  None for amd64 eitehr
[08:34] <paxon> heh
[08:34] <Seveas> macromedia refuses to make one
[08:34] <cary> Seveas, for ubuntu ppc, there is no flash thing?
[08:34] <tiglionabbit> what?  MACromedia?  But Flash was originally developed for Macs
[08:34] <thoreauputic> paxon: gdm!= gnome ;)
[08:34] <Seveas> cary, no
[08:35] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, i mean linux on macs
[08:35] <cary> doh
[08:35] <tiglionabbit> =\
[08:35] <Seveas> for macs running macos there is a flashplayer, but stupid macromedia doesn't make one for macs on linux
[08:37] <smudge8> Seveas: its kinda funny, given that its currently running on a BSD-style system anyway...
[08:37] <tiglionabbit> is it possible to hack it into place?
[08:38] <tiglionabbit> like, crossover, or something
[08:38] <cary> tiglionabbit, mani hope so
[08:38] <Seveas> crossover is for x86
[08:38] <Seveas> and windows apps
[08:38] <Seveas> not for macs
[08:38] <tiglionabbit> =\
[08:38] <cary> where is a good place for General linux commands. as in hwo to navigate in terminal, etc
[08:38] <cary> (i have googled and found a couple, b ut i figure you guys know something better)
[08:38] <Seveas> cary, www.tldp.org
[08:38] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: mac on linux is one way to use stuff like flash and media codecs on PPC
[08:38] <tiglionabbit> cary: have an ebook
[08:38] <Seveas> look for a shell command tutorial
[08:39] <imaek> Does anyone know of a good Linux Download Manager?
[08:39] <cary> tiglionabbit, eh?
[08:39] <tiglionabbit> nick-zap.home.comcast.net/stuff/unix.pdf
[08:39] <paxon> wget?
[08:39] <tiglionabbit> also, there's the rute book
[08:39] <Seveas> imaek, wget or gwget are good
[08:39] <imaek> Ok
[08:39] <thoreauputic> imaek: d4x (downloader for X)
[08:39] <tiglionabbit> http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/
[08:39] <cary> tiglionabbit, are you saying you have one
[08:39] <imaek> ok
[08:39] <cary> ahha
[08:40] <tiglionabbit> I just pasted the links
[08:40] <cary> tiglionabbit, got it
[08:40] <cary> thank you!
[08:40] <tiglionabbit> you're welcome
[08:40] <cary> (this is why i love open source communities)
[08:40] <tiglionabbit> =3 glad to be of assistance
[08:41] <tiglionabbit> hope you learn to love the terminal.  It'll be fun when you start ssh-ing around
[08:41] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, clusterssh is eve nicer
[08:41] <Seveas> :)
[08:41] <tiglionabbit> ?
[08:41] <schasi> now what is that?
[08:42] <Seveas> apt-cache show clusterssh
[08:42] <Seveas> :)
[08:42] <cary> tiglionabbit, what would i do ssh'ing?
[08:42] <tiglionabbit> oh cool
[08:42] <cary> Seveas, again, where would i type somehting LIKE apt-wahtever
[08:42] <Seveas> cary, in a terminal
[08:42] <Seveas> applications->system tools->terminal
[08:42] <tiglionabbit> cary: ssh (secure shell) allows you to use other computers remotely
[08:43] <alxwind> 10x, seveas
[08:43] <cary> tiglionabbit, yeah, thats what iw as thinking. im wondering if i will ever have a need to do that
[08:43] <Whistler> how to install tar gz archives?I extracted and now what shoul i do?
[08:43] <Whistler> how to install tar gz archives?I extracted and now what should i do?
[08:43] <tiglionabbit> you could be anywhere, on any computer, and open an ssh client and use your own computer at home
[08:43] <Seveas> Whistler, read the files README and INSTALL
[08:43] <cary> oh lord, i could set up my mom to dual boot her PC and fix crap for her (kidding)
[08:43] <Seveas> Whistler, what are you installing?
[08:44] <tiglionabbit> Whistler: tar gz is just compression.  There will be things in there.  Generally there's a README or INSTALL file you can read
[08:44] <jaggi> I'm trying to get totem to work.. or actually, I'm trying to get a DVD to play :)
[08:44] <tiglionabbit> jaggi
[08:44] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[08:44] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:45] <Raskall> Seveas: how do I start clusterssh?
[08:45] <Seveas> ubotu restricted is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:45] <ubotu> ...but restricted is already something else...
[08:45] <Whistler> nvu
[08:45] <Whistler> i am trying to install nvu
[08:45] <Whistler> there is no readme or install
[08:45] <cary> tiglionabbit, so lets say i ssh into my home box (which is incidentally a powerbook, so it could in theory go with me), what woudl i do? i mean is it like database crap or ..what. it'd be terminal...but to what end. i guess im asking for an example of what you might do by ssh'ing to home
[08:46] <lhb> !ubuntuguide
[08:46] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntuguide is a helpful guide for new users located at http://ubuntuguide.org
[08:46] <tiglionabbit> Whistler: is there a makefile, an autogen.sh, an install.sh, a binary executable, or what?
[08:46] <tiglionabbit> ubuntuguide doesn't teach you anything though
[08:47] <thoreauputic> cary: you can do pretty much anything remotely on a machine, given the right configuration
[08:47] <Whistler> tiglionabbit theres none of these files
[08:47] <cary> thoreauputic, but command line right. not from a gui. from a gui??
[08:47] <tiglionabbit> cary: well if you're going to cary it around anyway it probably wouldn't matter, but there are a lot of possibilities for using machines remotely.  I have ssh access to several machines in florida, on my college campus, and a few friends
[08:47] <thoreauputic> cary: cary you can forward X, or use for example freenx to use the gui
[08:48] <tiglionabbit> cary: actually, you can run any program including graphical programs through ssh, with the right configuration.  Ubuntu is already set up to do this
[08:48] <cary> ooooooo
[08:48] <cary> nice!
[08:48] <tiglionabbit> you'd just need to be able to recieve it on the client side
[08:48] <cary> now im getting excited
[08:48] <cary> i just need to start learning
[08:48] <Whistler> so anybody will help me to istall ?
[08:48] <tiglionabbit> like for instance, I can run graphical programs from my campus unix network remotely
[08:48] <Raskall> I miss my ubuntu cds. *sob*
[08:48] <thoreauputic> cary: for example, on my home network I can use my old pentium box to run heavy apps on my 2gig 512MB machine
[08:49] <microhaxo> Guys help me compile WINE
[08:49] <tiglionabbit> Whistler: it really depends what's in the archive
[08:49] <jaggi> working on it working on it working oni t
[08:49] <tiglionabbit> Whistler: um, ls it and paste it in #flood
[08:49] <Whistler> tiglionabbit ok i dont need anymore i installed it using apt-get
[08:49] <Whistler> thx anyway
[08:49] <tiglionabbit> okay good
[08:50] <cary> thoreauputic, how do you mean you use one to run on the other
[08:50] <jaggi> afk
[08:50] <cary> use that processor?
[08:50] <cary> i guess i dont get what you mean
[08:50] <thoreauputic> cary: the app runs on the new machine - but the dispaly is on the monitor for the old machine
[08:50] <thoreauputic> *display
[08:52] <thoreauputic> cary: thus even a pentium 200 can run , say, mozilla - moz runs on the remote machine, the old pentium just acts as a client
[08:52] <cary> ahhha. so you somehow have the window open so you can control it and gather whatever data you need. sort of a mirror of the more powerful one
[08:52] <cary> so i could SEE myself editing a photo on one, use its power to do that, save it, then transfer it or something like that
[08:53] <thoreauputic> cary: the diaplay is all that gets sent to the old machine, effectively the program runs remotely
[08:53] <cary> ooooo...i could find someone with a dual 2.7 to do my raw editing! (only that would take ages to trasnfer)
[08:53] <cary> thoreauputic, nice
[08:53] <microhaxo> can someone take the time to help me compile wine?
[08:53] <tiglionabbit> cary: helps a lot more when you're working with webservers
[08:54] <thoreauputic> cary: linux is "network transparent"
[08:54] <optik> why not just use the wine from apt-get?
[08:54] <cary> tiglionabbit, yeah. maybe one day ill need to manager servers. but im a photographer so ...its iffy
[08:55] <tiglionabbit> cary: well um, that's true, there isn't a ton of things the terminal can do for photography
[08:55] <thoreauputic> cary: if you have a static IP and a good connection you can host your own website using apache
[08:55] <cary> tiglionabbit, haha. yeah.
[08:55] <tiglionabbit> unless you're making a website for it
[08:56] <lhb> microhaxo: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996
[08:56] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: not true - the imagemagick suite has powerful image manipulation tools
[08:56] <vido> hello guy
[08:56] <tiglionabbit> ah, I haven't experimented with that
[08:56] <lhb> microhaxo: used it and worked like a charm, running ie6 even
[08:56] <microhaxo> k
[08:57] <cary> tiglionabbit, thoreauputic , Seveas ,...i figured otu hwo to get to the flash thing via terminal! of course when i executed the (application?) it told me there is no ppc arcitecture support (as noted earlier)
[08:58] <tiglionabbit> yeah
[08:58] <tiglionabbit> tis sad
[08:58] <Whistler> there is an online game but it only allows IE but i wanna use linux is it possible to login someway?
[08:58] <cary> tiglionabbit, point is though i navigated in terminal and found what i needed to do and did it.
[08:58] <vido> I have a problem with my Sound Blaster 16 PnP
[08:58] <cary> tiglionabbit, im proud.
[08:58] <tweakism_> What up, #ubuntu?  Doing drugs?  I know I am.
[08:59] <tiglionabbit> Whistler: you could fake your user agent, by typing about:config into address and changing things.  Or you could use wine to install internet explorer
[08:59] <tiglionabbit> Whistler: or you could email the people who made the game and tell them they are making a grave mistake
[08:59] <Tomcat_> Whistler: There is also a Firefox extension that will easily let you set your UA.
[08:59] <Bisclaveret> how do i uninstall programs and all the dependencies they use using synaptic without flagging everything by hand and searching for them (i want to remove them completely)
[08:59] <thoreauputic> cary: when you feel more comfortable with commands, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MacOnLinuxHowto  << bookmark this
[09:00] <tiglionabbit> Bisclaveret: I know there's a way to get rid of orphan packages...
[09:00] <pfp> it's always nice to see people learn linux :)
[09:00] <tweakism_> Bisclaveret: I don't know, but random advice:  be careful not remove things that other things you're not removing depend on.
[09:00] <Whistler> opera:config
[09:00] <cary> thoreauputic, i have been wanting to do that. ill give it some time thoguh
[09:00] <tiglionabbit> what's the thing for removing orphans?
[09:00] <Whistler> where i shoul type it?
[09:00] <Whistler> where i should type it?
[09:01] <Bisclaveret> because i'm running this on a VERY limited capacity harddrive and the full install installed just a bit much
[09:01] <pfp> tiglionabbit: you mean deporphan?
[09:01] <tweakism_> Does apt have a central registry of packages I have specifically specified to install, vs. just things that were installed as deps?  Ala gentoo's world file.
[09:01] <thoreauputic> cary: yes, it isn't hard really - but a bit intimidating when you are new
[09:01] <pfp> deborphan even
[09:01] <Bisclaveret> (do i need openoffice, vim, emacs, AND nano? ;))
[09:01] <tiglionabbit> yes, deborphan.
[09:01] <cary> thoreauputic, and i am Quite new.
[09:01] <thoreauputic> Bisclaveret: probably not
[09:01] <tiglionabbit> uninstall the program, and then clean up with deborphan
[09:02] <tweakism_> Bisclaveret: heh.  nano is good because it doesn't require any learning to use.  I like emacs and vim on all my machines, because everyone who uses them has their own preference (I like vim).  openoffice is a whole other class of software.
[09:02] <Bisclaveret> because say, flagging gimp for complete removal didn't touch gimp-python, gimp-data, gimp-helpbrowser, etc ;)
[09:02] <cary> thoreauputic, is there a way to refresh, say, the desktop, etc. back when i ran litestep i coudl refresh the .rc files. now i am seeing a file on the desktop that no longer exists but it wont go away
[09:02] <alerim> hi
[09:02] <thoreauputic> cary: odd
[09:03] <tiglionabbit> tweakism_: I try to avoid openoffice =P  abiword is nice
[09:03] <thoreauputic> cary: what file is this?
[09:03] <tweakism_> Is the difference between regular removal and complete removal that regular removal leaves configuration and support files in place?
[09:03] <Bisclaveret> tweakism_: i know how to use nano because it has virtually the same functionality and commands of the old dos LIST program i used to use
[09:04] <tweakism_> tiglionabbit: I used to use LaTeX for print-formatted stuff, but its syntax is archaic.  DocBook is neat, but it's pretty verbose, and while that alone would be OK, there aren't very good DocBook->print format (pdf, ps, etc) pathways :/  Maybe fop will mature.
[09:04] <thechitowncubs> I wish i could figure out why my laptop got so fricking hot
[09:04] <pfp> cary: try clicking on the desktop (to give it keyboard focus), then Ctrl-R (if using gnome)
[09:04] <thechitowncubs> everytime i use it i worry why the fans don't go on more
[09:04] <tweakism_> I find OpenOffice to be the best these days, and its styler actually makes seperation of content and formatting possible, though harder than LaTeX (w/ or w/o LyX) and DocBook.
[09:04] <cary> thoreauputic, pfp, what pfp said worked
[09:04] <tweakism_> I haven't really tried any of the competing open source word processors, though.
[09:05] <tiglionabbit> thechitowncubs: you could stop laptop-mode
[09:05] <thechitowncubs> STOP laptop mode?
[09:05] <cary> im goign to reboot to make sure tiger is still doing okay. be back soon
[09:05] <tiglionabbit> you wanted it to not turn off the fan, right?
[09:06] <microhaxo> Ok
[09:06] <thechitowncubs> i want the fan to go on more often
[09:06] <microhaxo> problem compiling
[09:06] <microhaxo> followed that guide to a T!!!!!!
[09:06] <thoreauputic> cary: I'm currently using a different window manager (fluxbox) so I can't check gnome stuff directly :)
[09:06] <microhaxo> lhb
[09:06] <microhaxo> yo
[09:06] <microhaxo> i need j00
[09:07] <microhaxo> lhb: ran into an error while compiling, followed it to a tee..
[09:07] <Fabian> good morning everyone!
[09:07] <microhaxo> its a bad morning
[09:07] <microhaxo> !
[09:07] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, microhaxo
[09:07] <microhaxo> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:07] <pfp> specifying the error wouldn't hurt...
[09:07] <thechitowncubs> micro, whats your problem, what are you trying to do
[09:07] <tiglionabbit> microhaxo: do you have build-essential installed?
[09:07] <thoreauputic> microhaxo: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:07] <Fabian> does anyone know how I can get my Ubuntu live CD NOT to use my swap partition????
[09:08] <microhaxo> yea
[09:08] <microhaxo> i have all that good stuff
[09:08] <Fabian> hi pfp! :D
[09:08] <pfp> Fabian: hi :)
[09:08] <thechitowncubs> tiglionabbit: i want my fans to go on more often
[09:08] <Fabian> pfp, do you know?
[09:08] <tiglionabbit> Fabian: um, try installing it without a swap partition?  uh..
[09:08] <tiglionabbit> lol my answer to that sucked
[09:08] <pfp> Fabian: type swapoff /dev/hdax once you're in the live cd
[09:09] <microhaxo> follwoed this guide TO A T
[09:09] <microhaxo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996
[09:09] <microhaxo> ERROR at the compile
[09:09] <microhaxo> :|
[09:09] <Fabian> pfp, when it has booted, or at the boot prompt?
[09:10] <Fabian> thoreauputic, cause I need to work on my partition table, and when a partition is mounted, this do really bad things
[09:10] <thoreauputic> Fabian: ah, Ok i see :)
[09:10] <pfp> Fabian: after it has booted.. i dont know if there's a boot-time option
[09:10] <pfp> Fabian: cat /proc/swaps to see if it's in use
[09:10] <thoreauputic> Fabian: after boot, type sudo swapoff -a
[09:11] <Fabian> thoreauputic swapoff -a? -a = all?
[09:11] <pfp> oh yeah, that too :)
[09:11] <pfp> but doesn't swapoff -a only affect those devices that are in fstab?
[09:11] <cary> seems to be okay
[09:12] <thoreauputic> Fabian: yes, turns off all swap
[09:12] <Whistler> anybody can suggest a php+mysql package?
[09:12] <thoreauputic> Fabian: swapon -a to turn it back on
[09:12] <Whistler> aviable via apt-get
[09:12] <Whistler> smt like lamp
[09:13] <thoreauputic> pfp: doesn't the live CD put swap in fstab?
[09:13] <davix> how could this happen: root@Lenna:/home/davix # ping 10.0.0.3
[09:13] <davix> PING 10.0.0.3 (10.0.0.3) 56(84) bytes of data. - From 10.0.0.2 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
[09:13] <davix> ?
[09:13] <thoreauputic> davix: you network is misconfigured?
[09:14] <tiglionabbit> why you using root?
[09:14] <JohnnyRotten> is there a place where stuff downloaded with apt-get/package manager is log that shows where it was downloaded from
[09:14] <davix> i love root
[09:14] <tiglionabbit> JohnnyRotten: dpkg
[09:14] <davix> thoreauputic, in which end?
[09:14] <Fabian> thoreauputic, yep, swap is in fstab in live cd
[09:14] <thoreauputic> JohnnyRotten: apt-cache policy <package> to see the repo it's from
[09:14] <microhaxo> Yo can someone please help me compile WINE?
[09:14] <tiglionabbit> microhaxo: why?
[09:15] <microhaxo> cuz i have amd64 kernel and i cant install the packaged one
[09:15] <thoreauputic> davix: hard to say - my mind reading is off today ;)
[09:15] <tiglionabbit> oh dang
[09:15] <microhaxo> anyone please
[09:15] <microhaxo> i have encountered an error and need to know how to get around it
[09:15] <Whistler> Anybody can suggest a webserver+php+mysql package?
[09:15] <thoreauputic> davix: the machines are not properly connected - what is causing that could be a number of things
[09:16] <davix> thoreauputic, could u give me a checklist for things to check for?
[09:16] <thechitowncubs> my lap is on fire
[09:16] <pfp> Whistler: apache2, mysql-server, libapache-php-something (apt-cache search php)
[09:16] <tiglionabbit> microhaxo: you might have more luck asking in #linuxhelp or a channel about wine
[09:16] <thoreauputic> davix: firewall? /etc/network/interfaces? dhcp?
[09:16] <Bisclaveret> next question, where do i get deborphan?  apt-cache search deborphan shows nothing
[09:16] <davix> router.
[09:16] <Fabian> pfp, damn, forgot my live CD at home! :(
[09:17] <pfp> Fabian: :'(
[09:17] <thoreauputic> davix: it depends on your setup
[09:17] <tiglionabbit> Bisclaveret: add more repositories.  It's in the default repositories commented out in sources.list
[09:17] <Whistler> pfp is there a all in one like lamp?
[09:17] <Fabian> pfp, after rewriting the partition table, do I have to tell the system, that does parititions are no prim partitions any more?
[09:18] <tiglionabbit> Fabian: uh..  you could unmount them
[09:18] <wills> any network admin ?????????
[09:18] <tiglionabbit> wills: what?
[09:18] <thoreauputic> Bisclaveret: debaorphan is in universe, according to " apt-cache policy"
[09:18] <Fabian> tiglionabbit, do you happen to know my problem?
[09:19] <thoreauputic> *deborphan
[09:19] <pfp> Whistler: i dont think so, using those packages is the common way afaik
[09:19] <tiglionabbit> Fabian: nope
[09:19] <wills> hi tiglionabbit r u network engg
[09:19] <tiglionabbit> nope
[09:19] <Whistler> pfp ok then thx
[09:19] <wills> any of ur friend tiglion
[09:19] <wills> ??
[09:19] <tiglionabbit> wills: what's your real question?
[09:20] <Fabian> tiglionabbit, gotta have another partition. So I have to move my prim partition 2 and 3 inside the extended partition, without loosing data
[09:20] <wills> tiglion -- i want to know about postfix config
[09:20] <Fabian> pfp, after rewriting the partition table, do I have to tell the system, that does parititions are no prim partitions any more?
[09:20] <pfp> Fabian: fdisk / sfdisk tell kernel to refresh the part.table (and complain if the kernel refuses to re-read it (ie. the disk was in use at the time)
[09:20] <JohnnyRotten> is there any other way thoreaputic that didnt list the site i was looking for i think it is cause it got deleted from my source.list im trying to find the repo i got a few packages from
[09:20] <imaek>  g
[09:20] <wills> any postfix experts
[09:21] <Fabian> pfp, it makes no difference if they are extended or not?
[09:21] <pfp> Fabian: umm no, whatever changes to the partition table, the kernel has to re-read them if you want to use the partitions before next reboot
[09:22] <Fabian> pfp, well, I'll reboot anyway
[09:22] <thoreauputic> JohnnyRotten: you can make a new /etc/apt/sources.list by running " sudo apt-setup", then uncommenting the ones you want
[09:22] <thoreauputic> JohnnyRotten: then run apt-get update, of course
[09:22] <pfp> Fabian: you can use sfdisk -R /dev/hda to make kernel re-read them,,, but i'n not sure how relevant this is for you since you have to escape from the live cd anyway
[09:23] <thechitowncubs> Why is my cpuinfo_max_freq set to 160000 when my processor is only 1.4ghz
[09:23] <RuffianSoldier> wtf - i remember when i could get anything i wanted from the Ubuntu repos what happend?
[09:23] <thechitowncubs> hallelujah, my fan just went on!
[09:23] <JohnnyRotten> it wasnt one of the sources that come with ubuntu will that still find and add the one i want back?
[09:24] <thoreauputic> JohnnyRotten: no
[09:24] <Fabian> pfp, as I said, I'll reboot anyway!
[09:24] <JohnnyRotten> i cant remember what the repo was i found it on google but cant seem to find it now
[09:24] <thoreauputic> JohnnyRotten: and using 3rd party repos isn't a good idea
[09:24] <tiglionabbit> thechitowncubs: if you want some fan, just say updatedb or something =P
[09:24] <pfp> Fabian: fine :) just being overly tired, manic and caffeinated here :P
[09:25] <Fabian> pfp, didn't you sleep yet?
[09:25] <microhaxo> CAn anyone please help me with compiling wine please??!?
[09:25] <thechitowncubs> hehe
[09:25] <pfp> Fabian: nah.. i have around 25-26h daily rhythm
[09:25] <tiglionabbit> microhaxo: nope
[09:25] <microhaxo> LMAO
[09:25] <microhaxo> here is the log
[09:25] <microhaxo> http://rafb.net/paste/results/spz5TN31.html
[09:26] <pfp> should sleep soon though, heh
[09:26] <thoreauputic> JohnnyRotten: microhaxo why are you compiling wine? it's inthe ubuntu repos (universe proabably)
[09:26] <RuffianSoldier> i just came back to the linux world after not using it for a few months - before i remember being able to find whatever i watned in the ubutnu repos - now it seems very limited - are there any repositories i can add to be able to downloda stuff like fluxbox and xfce?//
[09:26] <thechitowncubs> after i stopped the powernowd (cpu scaling) the fan seemed to go on a lot more :)
[09:26] <thoreauputic> oops sorry JohnnyRotten
[09:26] <microhaxo> How many times have i said this
[09:26] <microhaxo> IM RUNNING AMD64
[09:26] <microhaxo> they dont make the damn REPOS FOR AMD64 CUZ IT WONT INSTALL IT!
[09:27] <deco_> microhaxo: you could add 64bit to your nick or something? :D
[09:27] <thoreauputic> microhaxo: OK - no need to shout ;)
[09:27] <microhaxo> lol
[09:27] <tiglionabbit> can't find -lgcc huh?
[09:27] <Fabian> pfp, well, a day has got 24h and if you don't sleep, you get another 8h... and then you can work over lunch, makes another hour and if you don't make any breaks, you can have another 2h. Finally you can work late in the evening makes another 4 hours. So in total that is 39 to 40h per day. So no problem! :D
[09:27] <microhaxo64bit> i dunno it says
[09:27] <RuffianSoldier> can anyone answer my question?  does "universe" still exist?
[09:27] <thechitowncubs> this sucks
[09:28] <thoreauputic> RuffianSoldier: of course
[09:28] <microhaxo64bit> checking for gcc... gcc -m32
[09:28] <microhaxo64bit> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:28] <microhaxo64bit> See `config.log' for more details.
[09:28] <JohnnyRotten> is there a repo that has libfontconfig1 2.3.2-1?or newer
[09:28] <pfp> Fabian: :D
[09:29] <RuffianSoldier> thoreauputic - i remember having to enable it in synaptic whenever i reinstalled - but i dont know how it is cuz im still used to pre-hoary.........
[09:29] <tiglionabbit> Fabian: uh, those hours you're skipping are included in the original 24
[09:29] <thoreauputic> RuffianSoldier: ah - in synaptic settings, reppositories, check "disabled repositories" or similar
[09:30] <Fabian> tiglionabbit, are they? mmmhhh
[09:30] <thoreauputic> RuffianSoldier: or edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:30] <tiglionabbit> you can't have more than 24 in a single day
[09:30] <RuffianSoldier> what do I add?  I prefer to do it the hard way - im synapticaly challenged
[09:30] <david__> Hello, still having trouble configuring my sony TR3A for 1280x768 resolution.  Have tried autodetecting again, and have tried entering horizontal & vertical parameters, have read https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:30] <tiglionabbit> david__: is your monitor capable of it?  =P
[09:31] <david__> Yes, it is the default.
[09:31] <Fabian> tiglionabbit, I can't? too bad .... :(
[09:31] <david__> It is an LCD.
[09:31] <thoreauputic> RuffianSoldier: editing sources.list, you just uncomment all the lines that start with "deb", basically
[09:31] <tiglionabbit> yep.  to be even simpler, all the lines that have a single hash mark
[09:31] <david__> Xorg.conf contains all the right entries, or so it seems.
[09:31] <action09> hi all
[09:31] <thoreauputic> RuffianSoldier: if you want multiverse, add the word multiverse on the universe lines
[09:31] <Fabian> anyone got a writeable cd for me? need one urgently!!!
[09:32] <RuffianSoldier> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[09:32] <RuffianSoldier> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[09:32] <RuffianSoldier> un # those?
[09:32] <thoreauputic> yup
[09:32] <tiglionabbit> Fabian: how are we going to get it to you over the internet?
[09:32] <tiglionabbit> yes
[09:32] <action09> fear! i did an update of gaim this morning. cpu get to 99% by gam_server
[09:32] <action09> any clue? please
[09:32] <action09> on Hoary
[09:32] <Fabian> tiglionabbit, email? :D
[09:33] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: I'm a *very * slow typist ;)
[09:33] <pfp> tiglionabbit: see, it's easy :)
[09:33] <tiglionabbit> oh yes, because everyone knows physical objects can be used as attachments
[09:33] <RuffianSoldier> ty thoreauputic - im an oldschool ubuntuer - im just a bit shabby :)
[09:33] <RuffianSoldier> damn this shift key doesnt like to work :(
[09:33] <Fabian> pfp, Thank you
[09:33] <tiglionabbit> thoreauputic: I was just observing how you and I tend to say the same things in places
[09:33] <pfp> just like you can turn book pages with the mouse...
[09:33] <Fabian> *burn"
[09:34] <tiglionabbit> pfp: and delete text with whiteout!
[09:34] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: take your pick between "great minds think alike" and "fools never differ" ;-)
[09:34] <tiglionabbit> hehe
[09:35] <pfp> i once tried copy-pasting some text from compu to our fridge door :/
[09:36] <JohnnyRotten> since using other repos is bad what is best way to use newer stuff
[09:36] <thoreauputic> pfp: you need counselling ;-)
[09:36] <tiglionabbit> JohnnyRotten: um, use breezy?...  but don't
[09:36] <tiglionabbit> JohnnyRotten: or cvs, or emerge, but don't use those either
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[09:37] <Fabian> pfp, that's the best, I read in some time! :D
[09:37] <tiglionabbit> JohnnyRotten: isn't ubuntu new enough for you?
[09:37] <pfp> Fabian: heh :)
[09:38] <tiglionabbit> lol
[09:38] <tiglionabbit> oh Ihate that feature
[09:38] <pfp> myes, a clean way to get newer versions of stuff would be nice...
[09:38] <pfp> ehh
[09:38] <JohnnyRotten> no :)
[09:38] <pfp> *heh
[09:38] <tiglionabbit> openoffice has that feature, thoreauputic.  It's awful =P
[09:39] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: oh, I turned that off - I agree - it's awful
[09:40] <tiglionabbit> thoreauputic: I wish they'd have a separate package with all the annoyance tactics turned off.  For now, I just use abiword or gedit or mousepad or emacs or something else
[09:40] <david__> Any good ideas about the TR3A?  Is there a place I should enter a bug report?
[09:40] <it4ngo> Hello guys anyone who use Ximian Evolution can tell how to publish calendar with it.. I can do it with moz calendar but not with "evolution"
[09:40] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: hmm - I hardly ever use OpenOffice these days - but then I have little need for word processing
[09:41] <Fabian> pfp, nobody's got a writable cd here.... :(
[09:41] <JohnnyRotten> is there a easy way to get rid of everything installed from the repo that i found on google only so i can fix some problems installing some stuff that wants newer things than whats avalible
[09:41] <sasquatc4> figured id ask, ive looked around the forums and havent seen anything yet, just wonderin if anyone has gotten 3d acceleration to work with the radeon mobility IGP 340M, since i think they came out with new drivers in the past few days
[09:42] <Fabian> thoreauputic lol, thanks
[09:42] <thoreauputic> Fabian: it only works with invisible ink, sorry ;)
[09:43] <Fabian> pfp, privat for a sec?
[09:43] <pfp> Fabian: k
[09:44] <pfp> JohnnyRotten: maybe something like dpkg --get-selections | while read stuff ; do apt-cache policy $package | grep something ; done
[09:45] <thoreauputic> JohnnyRotten: try   sudo apt-get -f  ( without any packages)
[09:45] <thoreauputic> oops
[09:45] <thoreauputic> apt-get -f install
[09:48] <sasquatc4> i take that as a no
[09:51] <zyth> a no?
[09:52] <tiglionabbit> what happened?
[09:52] <action09> damn
[09:52] <kvidell> uhh
[09:52] <kvidell> I donno, I just got back from a walk
[09:52] <tiglionabbit> =3
[09:52] <kvidell> Would you like to wear knickers? I would, 'cause I'm Winston Churchill!
[09:54] <kvidell> heh
[09:55] <tiglionabbit> piglet-shaped?
[09:55] <tiglionabbit> and is fur readable?
[09:55] <zyth> fur holds like 2.7gb/inch ;)
[09:55] <tiglionabbit> you mean it's one continuous strand?
[09:55] <tiglionabbit> how long is the fur?
[09:56] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: yes this is reiserfs fur - it reads very fast then blows up and scatters all over the room
[09:56] <tiglionabbit> lol
[09:56] <zyth> oddly, I think my fs is ext2.
[09:58] <tiglionabbit> mm where can I get a fuzzy computer like that?  Sounds cuddly, and I wouldn't need to stick figurines all over it like nintendo workers do
[09:58] <zyth> I want ubuntu-based internet radio to listen to.
[09:58] <zyth> tiglionabbit, linux on a dead badger.
[09:59] <kvidell> Piglet shaped? I'm still hung up on that.
[09:59] <zyth> http://www.strangehorizons.com/2004/20040405/badger.shtml
[09:59] <vido> Please can you help me with my sound blaster 16 I can't use it
[10:00] <Madpilot> zyth: :) seen that ages ago, still great. Uvudu, anyone?
[10:01] <zyth> vido, what is the problem?
[10:01] <vido> i can't use my soundblaster
[10:02] <kvidell> Aww.. c'mon. Kids in the Hall?
[10:03] <zyth> Huh, gaim-vv isn't in any repositories.
[10:03] <zyth> vido, we'll need more than that.  Did it detect? is the volume just turned down? etc
[10:04] <vido> no It don't detect
[10:05] <kvidell> does it show up in lspci ?
[10:05] <kvidell> (I'm assuming by "detect" we meant "auto detect and register as a device")
[10:06] <pfp> is SB16 even a pci device?
[10:06] <kvidell> ISA/EISA should still come up in lspci
[10:07] <kvidell> it runs through the PCI bus on newer cards and thusly slows down the whole system
[10:07] <pfp> didnt know that
[10:07] <kvidell> er.. newer mobos
[10:07] <vido> no is sb16 isa pnp
[10:07] <Di42lo`> am i the only that after apt-geting MPlayer...cant see the movies in full screen ?
[10:08] <Di42lo`> the only one*
[10:08] <kvidell> what are you doing to make it go fullscreen?
[10:08] <tiglionabbit> nope, you've got to change teh engine
[10:08] <tiglionabbit> go to preferences
[10:08] <Di42lo`> what engine ?
[10:08] <Di42lo`> and then ?
[10:08] <kvidell> my usual trick is: mplayer -fstype fullscreen -fs filename.mpg
[10:08] <kvidell> but I don't like gui apps so my way's a little contrived :)
[10:08] <tiglionabbit> under video, select xv
[10:09] <Di42lo`> tiglionabbit: and then ?
[10:09] <tiglionabbit> and then quit and run it again
[10:09] <thoreauputic> gmplayer -zoom also works
[10:09] <tiglionabbit> and you should be able to use fullscreen
[10:09] <thoreauputic> or mplayer -zoom
[10:09] <kvidell> thoreauputic: Oh, okay... I realise that I use bad methods for getting things done, but it works in the end, hehe.
[10:10] <kvidell> Like when I compile kernels... make xconfig; make -j2 modules; make -js modules_install; make -js install; mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.2.6.10-2 2.6.10; sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:10] <ayano> hi!
[10:10] <thoreauputic> kvidell: mplayer encourages geeky solutions, I think ;) I personally prefer Xine anyway
[10:10] <kvidell> it makes most people's heads hurt but I rather like it.
[10:10] <Di42lo`> tiglionabbit: now i dont see the movie at all...just black screen
[10:10] <Daishi> hoi!!
[10:10] <tiglionabbit> personally I just use vlc for whatever I can
[10:10] <kvidell> and everytime I said -js up there it was supposed to be -j2, hehe
[10:10] <Daishi> hallo
[10:10] <Daishi> i dunno
[10:11] <kvidell> I only use VLC on my macs
[10:11] <tiglionabbit> Di42lo`: really?  um, darn
[10:11] <kvidell> mplayer elsewise.
[10:11] <Daishi> he..? hountou
[10:12] <Bisclaveret> awww jesus. i have no sound for anything
[10:12] <Daishi> are you happy?
[10:12] <Daishi> i'm having test today... not so difficult
[10:12] <tiglionabbit> Bisclaveret: that so?  what are you trying to do?  is esd running?
[10:12] <stjepan> hi
[10:12] <Daishi> answer my question please...
[10:12] <Bisclaveret> esd?
[10:12] <stjepan> wow
[10:13] <stjepan> links is really fast
[10:13] <stjepan> :D
[10:13] <Bisclaveret> under system monitor, it says it's sleeping
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> Bisclaveret: killall esd, and quit any application that makes sound, then run them again, do you hear anything?
[10:13] <Daishi> XD
[10:13] <Daishi> do you like japan?
[10:13] <Di42lo`> tiglionabbit: well...how do i get back to the standard options ?
[10:14] <tiglionabbit> Di42lo`: um, switch back to the other engine?
[10:14] <Daishi> do you know PSYCHO LE CEMU's OFFICIAL WEBSITE had closed?
[10:14] <Di42lo`> tiglionabbit: i dont remember which one it was
[10:14] <tiglionabbit> Di42lo`: try out different engines and see what works for you
[10:14] <Daishi> what are we talking about
[10:14] <thoreauputic> Bisclaveret: quick test to see if sound is working at all: ` cat /dev/urandom /dev/dsp ` (ctrl-C to stop the noise)
[10:14] <Di42lo`> tiglionabbit: nothing work
[10:14] <Daishi> hey, you two!!!><
[10:15] <Bisclaveret> only pc speaker beeps
[10:16] <Daishi> ken yu spik in jepen???
[10:16] <Bisclaveret> thoreauputic: i only get the standard pc speaker beeping randomly
[10:16] <thoreauputic> Bisclaveret: sorry , should be cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[10:17] <thoreauputic> I left out the >
[10:17] <Bisclaveret> nothing
[10:17] <thoreauputic> OK you have a sound config problem ... obviously
[10:17] <Bisclaveret> i figured that ;)
[10:17] <thoreauputic> Bisclaveret: did you try the killall esd suggestion?
[10:17] <Di42lo`> tiglionabbit: thoreauputic i think you didnt understand what i meant....after i open the movie in full screen i still can see the movie but its only in the middle ..and the rest are black
[10:18] <Bisclaveret> yes
[10:18] <thoreauputic> Di42lo`: I did understand - the zoom option usually fixes that
[10:19] <thoreauputic> Di42lo`: but really, i suggest you use xine and avoid the config hassles of mplayer
[10:19] <Daishi> qwertyuioplkjhgfdsazxcvbnm
[10:19] <Bisclaveret> i have a SB live 5.1 digital soundcard
[10:20] <thoreauputic> Bisclaveret: hmmm - do you know the driver? i think it's emu10k or somthing like that
[10:20] <thoreauputic> that's just from seeing other questions about SB live cards
[10:20] <Di42lo`> thoreauputic: xine generate a config file for mplayer ? and then what should i do with the config ?
[10:20] <sasquatc4> is there anyway to remove the xorg fglrx driver, i tried apt-get remove --force-yes, but it still gives me an error about it trying to overwrite something with a different filename
[10:20] <Bisclaveret> no, i don't :/
[10:20] <thoreauputic> Di42lo`: no, xine is a player
[10:21] <HrdwrBoB> sasquatc4: give the error and someone can probably help :)
[10:21] <Di42lo`> thoreauputic: does xine support avi, mplayer, wma ?
[10:21] <zyth> Di42lo`, it can
[10:21] <thoreauputic> Di42lo`: just install xine-ui
[10:21] <thoreauputic> and tes
[10:21] <sasquatc4> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa-gl_6.8.2-10_i386.deb (--unpack):
[10:21] <sasquatc4> trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2', which is also in package fglrx-6-8-0
[10:21] <Di42lo`> okay sec
[10:21] <Guybrush|Numb> just a question, people
[10:21] <thoreauputic> if you have the w32codecs
[10:21] <Bisclaveret> volume control has literally hundreds of options in the window for my sb live soundcard
[10:21] <thoreauputic> Di42lo`: you need theose codecs
[10:21] <Guybrush|Numb> how do you usually quote other people nicknames in your replies, by copy/paste ?
[10:21] <thoreauputic> *those
[10:22] <HrdwrBoB> sasquatc4: so remove fglrx-6-8-0
[10:22] <zyth> Guybrush|Numb, type Gu then hit tab
[10:22] <Daishi> you are talking.....soooooooooooooooooooooooo fast!
[10:22] <Di42lo`> thoreauputic: i allready installed the win32codecs for the mplayer
[10:22] <thoreauputic> Guybrush|Numb: thor <tab> Gubr <tab>
[10:22] <sasquatc4> that package doesnt exist to apt
[10:22] <Guybrush|Numb> thanks zyth :)
[10:22] <Bisclaveret> as well as a device setting for my chipset, a setting for my cirrus logic chipset, a setting for a "SigmaTel" something...
[10:22] <Guybrush|Numb> saved my day
[10:22] <zyth> lol np
[10:22] <sasquatc4> and when i try apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx i get the same problem
[10:23] <thoreauputic> Di42lo`: if you have the codecs, xine should find them OK
[10:23] <Di42lo`> thoreauputic: okay thx
[10:23] <sasquatc4> it just doesnt state that it is with fglrx6-8-0
[10:23] <zyth> though honestly, if you have mplayer installed, I don't see why you'd need xine too, but hey ;)
[10:23] <thoreauputic> Di42lo`: if you prefer the totem interface you can install totem-xine as well
[10:24] <thoreauputic> zyth: because it works better for many people
[10:24] <thoreauputic> zyth: YMMV
[10:24] <zyth> thoreauputic, *nod*
[10:24] <Guybrush|Numb> zyth: xine installation is FAR easier on ubuntu than mplayer
[10:24] <zyth> mplayer seems to work well, except for some newer apple trailers, I think it's an audio codec issue though, since it's only the very newest ones
[10:25] <Guybrush|Numb> at least form e
[10:25] <zyth> Guybrush|Numb, I just used synaptic, set my mplayer config to ao=alsa and all was happy, but like said YMMV
[10:25] <Bisclaveret> when trying to use the "music player" under applications>sound and video, i get a "error: cannot open resource for writing" followed by an "Error: cannot pause playback" now that i did the killall esd
[10:25] <bigfoot1> hello. a question from a newbie: I made a sound file with the Audio Recorder program. How do I cut out a part of it? I only need the first part, the latter part is just silence. Thank you.
[10:26] <Guybrush|Numb> zyth: yeah, agreed, writing while u were speaking :)
[10:26] <thoreauputic> zyth: the average new user wouldn't know how to do the ao=alsa thing
[10:26] <zyth> thoreauputic, quite true.
[10:26] <zyth> I learned it by lots of frustration :)
[10:26] <thoreauputic> Bisclaveret: rhythmbox/music player wants to use esd for output
[10:26] <zyth> this is the first time I've had linux working 100% on a box.
[10:27] <zyth> in um.. 12 years
[10:27] <zyth> of using Linux.
[10:27] <zyth> er
[10:27] <zyth> something like that.
[10:27] <Guybrush|Numb> bigfoot: try searching in synaptic for "sound editor" or "sound editing" (search in Name AND Description of packages)
[10:28] <r3d0xXuS> hi im back :D
[10:28] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: audacity is a nice sound app for editing like that
[10:28] <Bisclaveret> once i get sound working i can try to get my videocard working, then i can have almost the same functionality of my windows drive :p
[10:28] <r3d0xXuS> cthulfuego ?
[10:29] <Bisclaveret> as it is the only thing i have is irc and (now) internet ;)
[10:29] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, thanks.
[10:29] <bigfoot1> Guybrush|Numb, thank you!
[10:29] <r3d0xXuS> do anyone here have geforce6800 installed on Ubuntu ?!
[10:29] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: you might need to kill esd to get audacity working, btw
[10:29] <misaka> r3d - Lots of people have NVidia cards installed ... do you have questions specific to that card only?
[10:30] <Guybrush|Numb> bigfoot1: thoreauputic is the man, you welcome :)
[10:30] <r3d0xXuS> yeah
[10:30] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, okay, i'll do that if i get problem.
[10:30] <misaka> r3d - Well, sorry, I don't have one a'dem. ;] 
[10:30] <thoreauputic> *esd
[10:30] <thoreauputic> heh  - i wouldn't disable sed ;)
[10:30] <tiglionabbit> yo.  I decided to add the sarge repository listed here http://debian.video.free.fr/ , and ran the gpg command he lists, but it still says there's no public key.  What should I do?  Oh, and is this repository safe to use with ubuntu hoary?
[10:31] <r3d0xXuS> misaka: my ask is: ive installed the normal driver from ubunto to my graphic card and if i play linuxport game like nexuiz it like lagging all 2 seconds
[10:31] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: no, don't use sarge repos
[10:31] <action09> My ubuntu freezed with the new kernel smp i installed.. don't understand why.maybe i'll look at the gam_server and search for/create bug
[10:31] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: if you must, use the unsable repo
[10:31] <misaka> thor - Is dmix the alsa-driver mixer?
[10:31] <thoreauputic> *unstable
[10:31] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, what's dmix? i think i only have esd and oss on my system. is dmix the best audio whatever?
[10:32] <zyth> bigfoot1, you ought to have ALSA
[10:32] <tiglionabbit> where can I get a standalone flash player?
[10:32] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: I found a howto for it on ubuntuguide.org
[10:32] <misaka> r3d - Have you determined if you've got 3D acceleration working properly or not?
[10:32] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: under "fix sound " or something like that
[10:32] <r3d0xXuS> ive installed that 3d driver card yes but it lagging
[10:32] <r3d0xXuS> if i play some games
[10:33] <bigfoot1> zyth, you're right, i meant alsa and oss.
[10:33] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[10:33] <zyth> r3d0xXuS, ina  terminal, type glxinfo.  Is it Mesa, or what?
[10:33] <r3d0xXuS> but i meant 100 fps then down to 1 then again up 100 then down to 1 and so going on
[10:33] <r3d0xXuS> hmm
[10:33] <r3d0xXuS> im newbie :x
[10:33] <tiglionabbit> can I get a stand alone flash player?
[10:34] <zyth> r3d0xXuS, see I have
[10:34] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: if you find one, please tell me...
[10:34] <tiglionabbit> o
[10:34] <misaka> r3d - That's not what I was asking. ;]  I was asking if you've made sure that the 3D acceleration works ... one way to test is to run 'glxinfo', or 'glxgears' to see what framerate it gets.
[10:34] <r3d0xXuS> zyth:
[10:34] <r3d0xXuS> zyth r3d0xXuS, see I have
[10:34] <zyth> server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[10:34] <zyth> server glx version string: 1.3
[10:34] <zyth> sorry, had to cut/paste
[10:34] <r3d0xXuS> lol
[10:34] <bigfoot1> can audacity work with .flac files? I made audacity open a flac file (created with SoundRecorder), and when I play back, i get meaningless sounds.
[10:34] <zyth> but when I run glxinfo, I get that near the top
[10:34] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: I have konqueror + flash plugin as my preferred app for flash
[10:34] <zyth> it shows that I'm using nvidia's drivers
[10:35] <r3d0xXuS> hmm
[10:35] <anirz_> hello
[10:35] <Dreamer3> anyone running ubuntu under Xen?
[10:35] <anirz_> what is codega?
[10:35] <r3d0xXuS> but if i play HL or Nexuiz
[10:35] <zyth> if yours says Mesa, your 3D drivers are not installed properly
[10:35] <r3d0xXuS> it lagging
[10:35] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: don't know, haven't tried flac
[10:35] <bigfoot1> should i convert the flac file to some format audacity can read? If so, do you know how to do it?
[10:35] <zyth> r3d0xXuS, well, what does glxinfo say when you run it in terminal?
[10:35] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: man audacity will tell you what formats are supported
[10:35] <anirz_> bigfoot1, what is codega
[10:35] <misaka> r3d - So ... have you run glxinfo/glxgears or not?
[10:35] <bigfoot1> anirz_, i don't know. I'm sorry.
[10:35] <r3d0xXuS> zyth r3d0xXuS, see I have
[10:35] <r3d0xXuS> ah
[10:35] <r3d0xXuS> mom
[10:35] <Guybrush|Work> anirz: you mean cedega ?
[10:35] <zyth> ah mom?
[10:35] <anirz_> anyone knows what is codega
[10:36] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: possibly sox can convert flac
[10:36] <misaka> zyth is r3doxXuS's mom?
[10:36] <thoreauputic> not sure
[10:36] <zyth> I am?
[10:36] <zyth> scary
[10:36] <misaka> This is weird shit. ;] 
[10:36] <anirz_> and point2play
[10:36] <zyth> :/
[10:36] <r3d0xXuS> zyth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/87
[10:36] <anirz_> what the y do??
[10:36] <tiglionabbit> zomg they're making a virtual machine now?
[10:36] <Guybrush|Work> anirz_, a windows """emulator""" for linux, to run games
[10:36] <tiglionabbit> flash platform
[10:36] <zyth> ok yeah you have nvidia's GLX
[10:36] <sasquatc4> HrdwrBoB: so do you have ny ideas about how to remove it?
[10:36] <r3d0xXuS> yeah
[10:36] <misaka> r3d - So now try glxgears ...
[10:36] <r3d0xXuS> but it lagging :x
[10:37] <anirz_> Guybrush|Work, so if i install them will i be able to play all the games??
[10:37] <misaka> See what kind of fps you get with that.
[10:37] <Guybrush|Work> no
[10:37] <Guybrush|Work> some of them
[10:37] <Dreamer3> anyone running ubuntu under Xen?
[10:37] <anirz_> Guybrush|Work, then??
[10:37] <misaka> Dreamer - No, having probs?
[10:37] <anirz_> Guybrush|Work, like?
[10:37] <Guybrush|Work> anirz_, some of them work, other don't
[10:37] <Guybrush|Work> anirz_, HL/CS Source for example
[10:37] <zyth> anirz_,  www.transgaming.org/gamesdb
[10:38] <anirz_> Guybrush|Work, thankx
[10:38] <r3d0xXuS> zyth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/88
[10:38] <r3d0xXuS> look the frames
[10:38] <r3d0xXuS> down and up down and up
[10:38] <misaka> r3d - There's nothing 'down and up and down and up' about that ...
[10:38] <zyth> 7500+ FPS isn't bad.
[10:38] <misaka> They're consistently around 8000.
[10:38] <zyth> looks fine to me
[10:39] <r3d0xXuS> :/
[10:39] <misaka> r3d - It might not be your driver then.
[10:39] <r3d0xXuS> but im lagging :x
[10:39] <zyth> in nexuiz, turn off real-time lighting
[10:39] <zyth> it'll speed it up
[10:39] <r3d0xXuS> ok wait
[10:39] <paxon> j #kubuntu
[10:39] <Guybrush|Work> nice try, paxon :)
[10:39] <paxon> lol
[10:39] <Guybrush|Work> lol
[10:40] <paxon> Sorry about that.
[10:40] <flyingpenguin900> what?
[10:40] <flyingpenguin900> nvm roung channle
[10:40] <r3d0xXuS> hmm all off :x
[10:40] <r3d0xXuS> and still lagging zyth
[10:40] <zyth> what directory are all the icons stored in? Anyone know?
[10:41] <zyth> r3d0xXuS, what's your video card?
[10:41] <r3d0xXuS> GeForce6800LE
[10:41] <zyth> huh.
[10:41] <zyth> I'd suspect a driver issue.
[10:41] <r3d0xXuS> :o
[10:41] <thoreauputic> zyth: /usr/share/pixmaps for gnome
[10:41] <r3d0xXuS> where and how to install :x
[10:41] <thoreauputic> mostly
[10:41] <zyth> have you tried changing nvagp in your X config?
[10:41] <zyth> thoreauputic, thanks
[10:41] <r3d0xXuS> im newb :X
[10:41] <Dreamer3> anyone running ubuntu under Xen?
[10:42] <r3d0xXuS> so i dont know how :x
[10:42] <thoreauputic> zyth: but others are scatteed about like confetti all over hte file system :/
[10:42] <thoreauputic> like my typing...
[10:42] <r3d0xXuS> hi Seveas :D
[10:43] <misaka> Heya Seveas.
[10:43] <r3d0xXuS> works all fine but my graphiccard not :/
[10:43] <r3d0xXuS> zyth?!
[10:44] <zyth> hang on.
[10:44] <r3d0xXuS> ok
[10:44] <zyth> AGP, not PCI-Express, right?
[10:44] <r3d0xXuS> AGP yeah
[10:44] <r3d0xXuS> 128 mb :x
[10:44] <Seveas> hi :)
[10:45] <r3d0xXuS> hi Seveas :x
[10:45] <r3d0xXuS> :)
[10:45] <r3d0xXuS> ive deleted my winxp yesterday
[10:45] <r3d0xXuS> i use now linux :>
[10:45] <zyth> r3d0xXuS, in your xorg.conf, under options, add Option "NvAGP" "1"
[10:45] <zyth> if you don't know how to do this, you will need to do some reading
[10:46] <zyth> ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7664/README.txt
[10:46] <zyth> is the docs for the nvidia driver
[10:47] <Dreamer3> anyone running ubuntu under Xen?
[10:48] <zyth> I wish I knew where I could find nice icons for supertux, pingus, and tuxracer.
[10:49] <thoreauputic> zyth: I guess for pingus you can find an appropriate penguin easily enough ;)
[10:49] <zyth> thoreauputic, yeah, I used the gnome-terminal-linux icon thingy
[10:49] <zyth> lol
[10:49] <zyth> just editing my menus to make them all nice
[10:49] <zyth> I think I want to buy NWN...
[10:49] <Guybrush|Work> anyone can suggest me a good database designing prog ?
[10:49] <Guybrush|Work> anyone can suggest me a good database design prog ?
[10:49] <zyth> Anyone up for a game of nexuiz?
[10:49] <r3d0xXuS> Seveas?
[10:50] <hornsby> Guybrush|Work, what language ?
[10:50] <r3d0xXuS> or
[10:50] <r3d0xXuS> zyth
[10:50] <r3d0xXuS> where can i find a window where i can kill that nvidia glx
[10:50] <Guybrush|Work> hornsby: just a tool to create database tables schemas
[10:50] <zyth> I am afk a minute
[10:50] <Guybrush|Work> hornsby: not specific to any language, i'm doing high level prototyping
[10:50] <hornsby> Guybrush|Work, I see
[10:52] <hornsby> Guybrush|Work, have you tried linuxlinks.com ?
[10:52] <Guybrush|Work> goin right now
[10:52] <hornsby> Guybrush|Work, i dont know any specific tools, but it's a good place to start with
[10:52] <Guybrush|Work> hornsby: thanks, looking :)
[10:54] <hornsby> Guybrush|Work,  how about http://www.knoda.org/
[10:54] <hornsby> i used it once, dunno if it's really what you are looking for
[10:54] <hornsby> Guybrush|Work, for KDE but, is it what you are looking for, similar to that ?
[10:54] <zyth> omg
[10:54] <zyth> that sucked so bad
[10:55] <zyth> I just got totally owned.
[10:55] <Dreamer3> no one?
[10:55] <r3d0xXuS> zyth..
[10:55] <zyth> r3d0xXuS, what are you talking about, a window where you can kill it?
[10:55] <Guybrush|Work> hornsby: more or less, i don't need any real database connectivity, just a graphical tool to propotype my DB
[10:55] <zyth> you need to edit your xorg.conf
[10:55] <Guybrush|Work> hornsby, that one could work though
[10:55] <zyth> if you don't know how to do that, I can't help you right now
[10:55] <r3d0xXuS> come to querry
[10:56] <hornsby> Guybrush|Work, well, there are lots of other tools, just need to search a bit
[10:56] <zyth> r3d0xXuS, do you know how to edit your xorg.conf?
[10:56] <hornsby> Guybrush|Work,  internet is so vaste :)
[10:56] <r3d0xXuS> .7
[10:56] <r3d0xXuS> :/
[10:56] <Guybrush|Work> hornsby: sure, but you already helped me a lot :)
[10:56] <r3d0xXuS> yeh
[10:56] <hornsby> Guybrush|Work, no prob :)
[10:56] <r3d0xXuS> sudo nano /bla/bla/xorg.conf
[10:56] <zyth> r3d0xXuS, ok, so.. in your xorg.conf, in your options for your video card, you need Option "NvAGP" "1" like the nvidia docs say
[10:57] <tiglionabbit> say, when I run a flash thingy, or mplayer, the sound slowly gets behind.  When I pause it, the sound runs for a while and catches up.  Setting mplayer to have a sound delay of -.55 seconds fixes this.  But uh, why does it do this?
[10:57] <zyth> then save and restart X
[10:57] <hornsby> r3d0xXuS, sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:57] <zyth> tiglionabbit, what's your default audo output for mplayer?
[10:57] <r3d0xXuS> k momento
[10:57] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: because mplayer sucks :) I had the same probalem
[10:57] <thoreauputic> *problem
[10:58] <r3d0xXuS> hmm
[10:58] <r3d0xXuS> there isnt a text of nvagp 1
[10:58] <r3d0xXuS> strange o_O
[10:58] <zyth> r3d0xXuS, no, you will need to add it
[10:58] <tiglionabbit> yes it does.  I use vlc instead now.  But there's no way to fix it in flash.  It could be related to flash, but I'm hoping this is a sound thing in ubuntu
[10:58] <tiglionabbit> that I can fix
[10:58] <zyth> Option "NvAGP" "1"
[10:59] <tiglionabbit> because it sucks to have to keep pausing flash for the audio to catch up to the graphics
[10:59] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: I use the *shudder* non-free standard plugin for flash ( downloaded automatically)
[10:59] <scanwinder> how do i join a windows domain with ubuntu?
[11:00] <Dreamer3> scanwinder: i don't :)
[11:00] <thoreauputic> scanwinder: bribe Bill Gates ?
[11:00] <scanwinder> lol
[11:00] <Dreamer3> scanwinder: you don't :)
[11:00] <tiglionabbit> thoreauputic: so do I
[11:00] <zyth> thoreauputic, same here, my opinion is 'whatever works and costs me nothing' ;)
[11:00] <scanwinder> apparently it can be done with SAMBA
[11:00] <Dreamer3> scanwinder: you join wnidows domains with windows PCs :-)
[11:00] <r3d0xXuS> zyth
[11:00] <r3d0xXuS> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/89
[11:00] <tiglionabbit> but I still have the problem.  What do I do?
[11:00] <r3d0xXuS> and tell me where should i edit? O_o
[11:00] <scanwinder> i mean 2 log onto a windows server
[11:01] <thoreauputic> scanwinder: yes, samba is the answer
[11:01] <tiglionabbit> I've had this problem with every version of flash player on every linux distro I've ever used though, so I don't know if it's fixable...
[11:01] <scanwinder> is there a good config utility i can use?
[11:01] <r3d0xXuS> Seveas?
[11:01] <thoreauputic> scanwinder: vim ? *grin*
[11:01] <zyth> r3d0xXuS, where's the rest of your config?
[11:01] <r3d0xXuS> nothing
[11:01] <r3d0xXuS> thats all
[11:02] <zyth> ummm
[11:02] <thoreauputic> scanwinder: there's a thing called "swat" I believe
[11:02] <r3d0xXuS> lol
[11:02] <zyth> that can't be, you have no screen modes defined
[11:02] <tiglionabbit> is there any way to fix the sound problem?
[11:02] <r3d0xXuS> :x
[11:02] <tiglionabbit> the problem that sound gradually gets behind in flash
[11:03] <Hajuu> hey
[11:04] <Hajuu> is there a hotkey for switching between desktops?
[11:04] <Hajuu> (not X sessions, but gnome desktops)
[11:04] <Seveas> Hajuu, yes
[11:04] <Seveas> you can even set it yourself
[11:04] <zyth> r3d0xXuS, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/90
[11:04] <Seveas> see system->preferences->keyboards shortcutw
[11:05] <Hajuu> oooh
[11:05] <Hajuu> kinky
[11:05] <r3d0xXuS> lol why pci-ID?
[11:05] <zyth> r3d0xXuS, ubuntu auto-did it.  But anyways, look for a spot like that, add the line
[11:05] <zyth> It's bedtime for me
[11:05] <zyth> goodnight
[11:05] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS, have you run nvidia-glx-enable?
[11:06] <zyth> Seveas, his glxinfo is showing nvidia 1.3
[11:06] <Seveas> ah ok :)
[11:06] <zyth> just trying to get him to try nvagp and agpart.. see if either make a difference
[11:06] <zyth> he's getting weird lag when running 3D apps apparently
[11:06] <r3d0xXuS> ok edited :X
[11:06] <r3d0xXuS> ok good night
[11:06] <zyth> r3d0xXuS, restart X then
[11:06] <r3d0xXuS> ill doing going with seveas :P
[11:07] <r3d0xXuS> Seveas u help me from here then :P
[11:07] <Hajuu> Is there a program that can backup/restore all my ubuntu settings onto a clean install on this same machine?
[11:07] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS, sorry, can't help you...
[11:07] <Hajuu> (just wanna keep a backup)
[11:07] <Seveas> Hajuu, you can backup your /home/you
[11:07] <Hajuu> nah thats not what I mean
[11:07] <Seveas> and for general backups you can use rsync / tar or mondo
[11:07] <Hajuu> hmm yeah I guess
[11:07] <zyth> Is there a program like Ghost for Linux so I can back up my Ubuntu to CDs and restore from them?
[11:08] <Seveas> zyth, look at my last line :D
[11:08] <Hajuu> I just think itd be good if I could do like three click system restores heh
[11:08] <zyth> eh... no bed yet
[11:08] <zyth> oh lol ok Seveas
[11:08] <zyth> Oh mondo looks nice
[11:09] <zyth> Hm I hope r3d0xxus didn't muck up his xorg.conf
[11:09] <Seveas> zyth, you DID tell him to make a backup and how to restore it i hope?
[11:10] <Dreamer3_> if someone can't log into chat from the console, they're not ready for linux :)
[11:11] <zyth> Seveas, well, no, I told him to not edit it if he didn't know what he was doing, and to go read up on it.
[11:11] <thoreauputic> Dreamer3_: heh - well that would have counted me out when I started *g*
[11:11] <zyth> I kinda assumed basic compentency... :/
[11:11] <Seveas> zyth, don't :)
[11:11] <Seveas> expect NO competency at all from newbies
[11:11] <thoreauputic> zyth: a dangerous assumption
[11:11] <zyth> lol... yeah
[11:11] <zyth> Ok
[11:12] <zyth> duly noted.
[11:12] <mypapit> sux a lot
[11:12] <mypapit> duly yang maha mulia] 
[11:12] <Seveas> believe me, newbies have no basic competencies
[11:12] <Seveas> mypapit, we speak english in here
[11:12] <Dreamer3_> thoreauputic: i want to know now if anyone is running ubuntu under Xen
[11:12] <zyth> well, I feel bad if he broke his X :(
[11:12] <Seveas> you didn't break it, he did that himself :)
[11:13] <thoreauputic> Dreamer3_: given that you've asked several times. it would seem no-one currently in channel
[11:13] <Dreamer3_> thoreauputic: i thought someone would at least respond :no :-)
[11:13] <thoreauputic> Dreamer3_: no
[11:13] <thoreauputic> happy ? *grin*
[11:13] <Seveas> no :)
[11:14] <Dreamer3_> ok
[11:14] <Dreamer3_> anyone use a custom kernel with ubuntu?
[11:14] <Dreamer3_> (easier question)
[11:14] <Seveas> no
[11:14] <Seveas> (well, some people do, but custom kernels are a no longer needed when you don't have specific needs)
[11:15] <Bisclaveret> ah! i think i found the problem to my sound problem, but no idea how to fix it
[11:15] <Dreamer3_> Seveas: i need a Xen kernel to run under Xen :)
[11:15] <Bisclaveret> bisclaveret@Dragon:/proc/asound$ cat cards
[11:15] <Bisclaveret> 0 [I82801AAICH    ] : ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH
[11:15] <Bisclaveret>                      Intel 82801AA-ICH with CS4299 at 0x2000, irq 10
[11:15] <Bisclaveret> 1 [Live           ] : EMU10K1 - Sound Blaster Live!
[11:15] <Bisclaveret>                      Sound Blaster Live! (rev.10) at 0x3400, irq 10
[11:15] <Seveas> that qualifies as a special need
[11:15] <Balu> Hi guys
[11:16] <r3d0xXuS> Seveas?
[11:16] <Seveas> Dreamer3_, search the mailing lists, i've seen Xen being discussed there
[11:16] <Seveas> hi r3d0xXuS
[11:16] <r3d0xXuS> hi i need ur help again pls querry :X
[11:16] <Balu> cdrecord tells me, my CD-Recorder is not a CD-Recorder :-] 
[11:16] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS, if it's about nvidia: I know *nothing* about nvidia except what's on the wiki
[11:16] <r3d0xXuS> argh
[11:17] <r3d0xXuS> ...
[11:17] <r3d0xXuS> hmm
[11:17] <Seveas>  just ask in here, there are more smart people here :)
[11:17] <zyth> r3d0xXuS, your best best is, read the nvidia docs
[11:17] <zyth> that's what I did
[11:17] <r3d0xXuS> i did
[11:17] <Seveas> or ask on the mailing list
[11:17] <r3d0xXuS> but nexuiz crashes
[11:17] <Balu> I wonder if thats a problem with the kernellinux-image-2.6.10-5-386, so is there a new kernel package available for ubuntu anywhere?
[11:17] <r3d0xXuS> so i must install that grapiccard driver from nvidia.com
[11:17] <r3d0xXuS> ll ^^
[11:17] <r3d0xXuS> 
[11:17] <Bisclaveret> would rmmod ICH work?
[11:17] <r3d0xXuS> hm
[11:18] <Dreamer3_> Seveas: cool
[11:18] <r3d0xXuS> hmm :/
[11:18] <Seveas> Bisclaveret, you don't want to use your internal soundchip?
[11:18] <r3d0xXuS> DO ANYONE KNOW WITH EXPERIENCE OF GFX NVIDIA ?!
[11:18] <Seveas> Bisclaveret, easiest option: disable it in the BIOS
[11:18] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS, dude, chill
[11:18] <r3d0xXuS> lol my capslock was on
[11:18] <Seveas> ask on the mailinglist, post your xorg.conf with it
[11:19] <Seveas> there are lots of smart people there
[11:19] <Bisclaveret> Seveas: i have my soundblaster card. no, i don't. and i strongly think that thats why i don't have any sound, it's trying to send to my onboard soundcard
[11:19] <Seveas> Bisclaveret, easiest option: disable it in the BIOS <--
[11:19] <zyth> Bisclaveret, just disable it in the BIOS
[11:19] <Bisclaveret> and my bios has no such option. i'm lucky to have an onboard-external video selector
[11:19] <Seveas> hmm
[11:20] <Bisclaveret> i'm running on late 1999-2000 equipment
[11:20] <Seveas> Bisclaveret, do an lsmod and paste the output on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:21] <Bisclaveret> done
[11:22] <Seveas> echo 'snd_intel8x0' | sudo tee -a /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[11:22] <Seveas> and reboot
[11:25] <Bisclaveret> someoene else was telling me to try rmmod ICH and see what happense
[11:26] <thoreauputic> Bisclaveret: try what Seveas said - it should disable the onboard sound
[11:26] <Seveas> there is no ich module...
[11:26] <Bisclaveret> heh. and contrary to popular belief i don't have any compatible temp or voltage sensors on this comp. or my PLL chip is halfway fried :/
[11:26] <Seveas> lol :)
[11:26] <thoreauputic> Bisclaveret: you could try rmmod snd_intel8x0 to test
[11:26] <Bisclaveret> literally
[11:26] <r3d0xXuS> damn :/
[11:27] <r3d0xXuS> cant :x
[11:27] <r3d0xXuS> i need really really help :/
[11:30] <Bisclaveret> Seveas: as an example, this is what mbmon is telling me ;)
[11:30] <r3d0xXuS> damn
[11:30] <r3d0xXuS> sucky
[11:30] <r3d0xXuS> ..
[11:30] <Bisclaveret> Temp.= 231.0, 127.0, 125.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    0
[11:30] <Bisclaveret> Vcore = 3.81, 4.08; Volt. = 3.95, 5.13, 15.50, -14.19, -5.76
[11:30] <Seveas> muha :)
[11:31] <Seveas> Bisclaveret is cooking dinner for all of us today :)
[11:31] <Bisclaveret> i don't think a coppermine core celeron would survive too well at 3.81 voltage to core ;)
[11:31] <Bisclaveret> considering it uses less than half that
[11:32] <Bisclaveret> and an antec CPUSolutions copper cooler should be overkill for it. my 566mhz celly only needed a passive heatsink with a small fan screwd inbetween the coils ;)
[11:32] <Bisclaveret> considering said heatsink is for 3000+ athlons
[11:33] <Seveas> rofl
[11:34] <Hajuu> Hey there.. Im a web developer... And I need to be able to preview what a page will look like in IE but I have no windows PC around... Anyone think of a solution? Eg.. a browser which pretty much mimics IE..
[11:34] <Dreamer3_> Hajuu: *laughs*
[11:34] <Guybrush|Work> Hajuu: Impossible, who would ever mimic IE ???!?! :)
[11:34] <Dreamer3_> Hajuu: run IE under linux...
[11:35] <paxon> firefox ieview?
[11:35] <Hajuu> Yeah I know its a silly thought
[11:35] <Hajuu> ieview?
[11:35] <Seveas> Hajuu, crossover office can run IE
[11:35] <Hajuu> Dreamer3_:  id like to avoid that if I can
[11:35] <Hajuu> crossover office eh
[11:35] <Hajuu> free?
[11:35] <Seveas> nope
[11:36] <Dreamer3_> Hajuu: ie is ie
[11:36] <Dreamer3_> Hajuu: no, but unless you have gentoo the time to get IE up and running is well spent just buying cross-over
[11:36] <Dreamer3_> there was a nice ebuild for gentoo to do it all for you
[11:36] <Hajuu> hmmm
[11:37] <Hajuu> Well that sucks
[11:37] <Hajuu> heh
[11:37] <Zindar> install winetools... it does it for you.. well.. did in warty.. haven't tried in hoary
[11:37] <Hajuu> winetools?
[11:37] <Zindar> installs ie from the net automatically and all
[11:37] <Hajuu> oooh
[11:37] <Zindar> yes.. you can find it on winehq
[11:37] <Zindar> ubuntu packages and all
[11:37] <zyth> will winetools conflict with Cedega?
[11:38] <Zindar> I haven't tried it in hoary.. worked beutiful in warty
[11:38] <Hajuu> I dont even have wine installed anymore
[11:38] <zyth> winetools is in synaptic btw
[11:38] <Hajuu> since I put cedega on
[11:38] <Zindar> about
[11:38] <Zindar> ahh
[11:38] <Zindar> it is...
[11:38] <Zindar> kool
[11:38] <Zindar> :)
[11:38] <smott> hi. is there a way to enable multicasting without recompiling the kernel?
[11:38] <paxon> Hajuu, http://ieview.mozdev.org/
[11:39] <Zindar> smott: ehh.. yes... it's on by default :9
[11:39] <Hajuu> paxon: whats this?
[11:39] <paxon> firefox extension.
[11:39] <smott> Zindar: mplayer disagrees (when trying to open udp stream: IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP failed (do you have multicasting enabled in your kernel?))
[11:39] <Hajuu> "IE View is a simple Mozilla and Mozilla Firefox extension (for Microsoft Windows systems), which allows the current page or a selected link to be opened in Internet Explorer. "
[11:40] <Hajuu> I dont actually *have* ie for it to be opened in
[11:40] <mypapit-asleep> smott, there a no known good way to enable multicasting except to recompile it with multicasting enabled..
[11:40] <vampire123> deer park like firefox
[11:40] <vampire123> very like
[11:40] <paxon> Hajuu, read on.
[11:40] <Hajuu> mmkay
[11:40] <mypapit-asleep> smott, check if you already loaed the kernel multicasting module... there are chances that your kernel is compile with it as a module, and you havent load it yet..
[11:40] <Zindar> smott: I'm guessing it's because of something else... you just get the wrong message.... I would be very surpriced if ubuntu disables that... all other distros I've tried has it enabled by default
[11:41] <Zindar> ahh.. that can be it
[11:41] <mypapit-asleep> *already* loaded..
[11:41] <Hajuu> No it definately requires a ie install to run, paxon
[11:41] <Hajuu> an ie install which I dont have
[11:41] <paxon> k.
[11:42] <Hajuu> thanks anyway
[11:42] <zyth> I want to run IE! ;)
[11:42] <Bisclaveret> zyth: i have a pentium 1 133mhz compy running win95 with IE 3.0 for ya..
[11:42] <smott> Zindar: quite possibly
[11:42] <zyth> whee!
[11:43] <zyth> I used to have the IE that came will Bill G's Autobiography...
[11:43] <paxon> lol
[11:43] <mypapit-asleep> lol
[11:43] <Bisclaveret> i was able to install IE 5.5 on it, as well as uninstall it perfectly. since it never had IE4, it has no IE-OS integration
[11:43] <zyth> I think it was IE 1.0
[11:43] <mypapit-asleep> zyth, where did you get it?
[11:43] <zyth> mypapit-asleep, sadly, with the book
[11:43] <zyth> BUT I WAS LIKE 12
[11:43] <fireixe> ei... guys!...
[11:43] <zyth> he was my hero ;)(
[11:43] <Dreamer3_> anyone know anything about grub?
[11:44] <Bisclaveret> of course, that also means that navigation in Explorer (not Internet Exploror) is more painful as you can't input directories, etc
[11:44] <fireixe> we can i get an acrobat reader for deb packages?!.
[11:44] <Bisclaveret> and some other more painful side effects
[11:44] <Hajuu> hell.. maybe if im really good IE will just install under cedega
[11:44] <Hajuu> you reckon?
[11:45] <fireixe> we can i get an acrobat reader for deb packages?
[11:45] <fireixe> where can i get an acrobat reader for deb packages?
[11:45] <gustav> fireixe: it's in the backports
[11:45] <Bisclaveret> http://www.angelfire.com/moon/bisclaveret0/heh.gif <-- IE 3.0 trying to view www.mozilla.org
[11:46] <Quazion> i downloaded acrobat 7 from the adobe site works pretty good
[11:46] <fireixe> gustav: wat do you mean?
[11:46] <zyth> winetools is crapping itself with 'cannot find wineboot' grrr
[11:46] <Hajuu> lol Bisclaveret
[11:46] <fireixe> gustav: coz im new to linux
[11:46] <gustav> fireixe: the backport repository has acrobat reader 7
[11:47] <Quazion> Bisclaveret, i think nt4.0 has ie 3.0 or something installed with which you cant download a new version from the ms site, since it crashes on the javascritp used :)
[11:47] <gustav> fireixe: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[11:47] <fireixe> gustav: thank you very much
[11:47] <gustav> fireixe: you're welcome
[11:48] <ggnnuu> Hi all
[11:49] <fireixe> gustav: which part of the site? im using windows right now.
[11:50] <Bisclaveret> Quazion: i grew up using Navigator 4.0-4.61. tis why i use mozilla suite. the programs are nearly identical in layout and options, and the mail/usenet program is *exactly* the same
[11:51] <Bisclaveret> well, except the handy rot-13 encoder option ;)
[11:51] <gustav> fireixe: just follow the instructions under basic usage info, then you'll be able to install acrobat reader via synaptic or apt-get
[11:52] <Bisclaveret> i really don't like FF though. though if i had a choice of modernish proggys on a slow windows computer, i would use K-Meleon. it ran GREAT on said 133mhz
[11:52] <smott> mypapit-asleep: what's the multicast module called?
[11:52] <fireixe> gustav: ok, i already found it.
[11:56] <Bisclaveret> http://www.angelfire.com/moon/bisclaveret0/images/May09121.JPG
[11:56] <Bisclaveret> is there any ELKS distros still alive?
[11:56] <berkes> oi folks!
[11:57] <berkes> is there a quick command to find all the installed packages on a box?
[11:57] <thoreauputic> berkes: dpkg -l | less
[11:57] <berkes> thoreauputic: thanks
[11:58] <fireixe> is there other program like NIS? i can setup?
[11:58] <Seveas> berkes, dpkg --get-selections | less
[11:58] <berkes> thoreauputic: apt-get install apt-show-versions  seems to do the trick too afaik, just found taht with google
[11:58] <Seveas> that'll give complete names
[11:59] <berkes> Seveas: thanks
[12:01] <larsrohdin> Hi, I'm using Grub to boot either XP or ubuntu, how can i change the order of the systems in the list I see at boot?
[12:02] <fireixe> thank you everybody!
[12:03] <larsrohdin> I found a menu.lst file, is it just to change the order there?
[12:04] <lewwy> hey guys.  Windows xp took over my grub boot loader and i'm trying to get it back using system resuce cd (linux based).  can someone please help me?
[12:04] <gustav> larsrohdin: it's the default option in the beginning of the file that specifies wich system to boot
[12:05] <lewwy> anyone help me?
[12:07] <larsrohdin> so, should I uncomment this: ## default num  and then enter the number of the os i want to be first in the list there?
[12:08] <gustav> larsrohdin: yes
[12:08] <larsrohdin> ok, thx
[12:08] <gustav> larsrohdin: it starts at 0, so if windows is fourth in the list it should say default 3
[12:09] <larsrohdin> and I will still be able to choose from the others to?
[12:09] <gustav> larsrohdin: yes
[12:10] <thoreauputic> larsrohdin: be careful - grub has weird commenting conventions
[12:10] <thoreauputic> larsrohdin: read crefully
[12:10] <kvik> how to setup isdn on ubuntu?
[12:11] <larsrohdin> ok ill give it a shot, thanks guys
[12:11] <deviant> hello guys
[12:12] <deviant> how can i add masquerading from eth0 to eth1 to iptable ?  i want to share my internet connection
[12:12] <pfp> deviant: do you have dynamic or static public ip?
[12:12] <deviant> pfp: i have a pppoe connection
[12:13] <jfk303> When using unace how do I extract it so the files are extracted into the folders the archiver made not just a list of all the files in the current directory
[12:14] <pfp> deviant: hmm, i haven't used pppoe... probably dynamic then?
[12:14] <pfp> deviant: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/24 -d \! 10.0.0.0/24 -j MASQ
[12:15] <pfp> that should do the trick, replace 10.0.0.0/24 with your LAN's network address
[12:16] <coulix>  there a command which ll merge the total space of my hard drive to see how much there is totaly ?
[12:16] <deviant> pfp: i`ve tried with "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
[12:16] <deviant> ", but is not working
[12:16] <tiglionabbit> rr, sleep time.  goodnight everyone
[12:17] <galuh> hallo room
[12:17] <[v2hja] > !seen delire
[12:17] <ubotu> delire <~delire@keane01.workstation.org.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 13h 44m 12s ago, saying: '[v2hja]  and there's nothing wrong with your english ;)'.
[12:18] <pfp> deviant: right, MASQUERADE is the correct word at least. i usually like to use ip addresses instead of devices
[12:18] <Quazion> i am having trouble with vncviewer it crashes when i use listen mode, it says X error BadName color or font and Major opcode of failed request 45 X_OPenFont
[12:18] <deviant> so ...what shoul i do ?
[12:18] <pfp> deviant: hmm, do you have the conntrack* modules loaded
[12:19] <deviant> don`t know
[12:19] <jy2> hello
[12:19] <deviant> what are those used for ?
[12:19] <galuh> hi
[12:19] <galuh> what?
[12:19] <jy2> does anyone have experience with radeon 7000 on linux?
[12:20] <pfp> deviant: they're used to track (TCP) connections, which the kernel needs to do to share one ip to many boxen
[12:20] <deviant> oh
[12:20] <jfk303> how do I change the owner of a folder
[12:21] <[v2hja] > eee
[12:21] <[v2hja] > lol
[12:21] <pfp> deviant: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/92  <-- append that to /etc/modules
[12:21] <[v2hja] > is england GMT +1 ?
[12:21] <jfk303> [v2hja] ,  no
[12:21] <thoreauputic> jfk303: chown user:group <directory>
[12:21] <deviant> pfp: but i just want to do a simple masquerading
[12:21] <[v2hja] > so
[12:22] <[v2hja] > what is the time there now ?
[12:22] <jfk303> GMT = Grenich Mean Time, Grenich is in ENgland
[12:22] <pfp> deviant: exactly :)
[12:22] <jfk303> GMT +0
[12:22] <kakalto> can I do software-RAID with fat32?
[12:22] <kakalto> or do I have to do ext2/3 or reiserfs?
[12:22] <deviant> so i have to load them ?
[12:22] <[v2hja] > so its like 11.22 there ?
[12:22] <[v2hja] > so its like 11.22 there ?
[12:22] <pfp> deviant: actually, run 'lsmod' to see if all of those are loaded, if not, you need 'em
[12:22] <thoreauputic> jfk303: use the -R switch for recursive changes in the dir
[12:23] (pfp/#ubuntu) deviant: yep, some protocols like irc, ftp etc need helper modules to survive NAT
[12:23] <[v2hja] > jfk303,
[12:23] <[v2hja] > what is the time there ?`
[12:24] <jfk303> 11.24 am
[12:24] <jfk303> sorry was away for a min
[12:24] <[v2hja] > k :D
[12:25] <pfp> deviant: if they are not loaded, run for i in `cat  /etc/modules |grep ^ip` ; do sudo modprobe $i ; done (after saving the file)
[12:25] <Whistler> is it possible to run  IE with wine?
[12:26] <araw1> good day! :)
[12:27] <peter__> Hi
[12:27] <bigfoot1> hello. a question from a newbie. I am just wondering where if there is a list of chatrooms somewhere on this freenode.net area, or even a universal directiory. I'd like to connect with a country-based chatroom. Thank you
[12:27] <jfk303> thoreauputic, so how do I change the owner of all the files in the directory: chown james Massive -R
[12:27] <jfk303> Massive = dir
[12:27] <Bazzi> bigfoot1 /list
[12:28] <deviant> pfp: here they are: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/93
[12:28] <Whistler> is it possible to run  IE with wine?
[12:28] <thoreauputic> jfk
[12:28] <thoreauputic> jfk303: no
[12:28] <deviant> pfp: what now ?
[12:28] <bigfoot1> bazzi, thanks. will that list have only the chatrooms in freenode.net?
[12:29] <Bazzi> yes
[12:29] <pfp> Whistler: ok, your modules look good
[12:29] <pfp> whops
[12:29] <Whistler> ?
[12:29] <Whistler> :D
[12:29] <thoreauputic> chown -R james:Massive <dirname>
[12:29] <pfp> Whistler: heh, i've heard its possible to run IE
[12:29] <thoreauputic> jfk303: ^^^
[12:29] <thoreauputic> jfk303: oops
[12:29] <jfk303> huh?
[12:29] <jfk303> ctrl
[12:30] <pfp> deviant: krhm, your modules look fine. what do you have in your iptables now?
[12:30] <thoreauputic> chown -R james:james Massive
[12:30] <deviant> pfp: how do i see?
[12:30] <thoreauputic> jfk303: ^^
[12:30] <pfp> deviant: iptables -t nat -vn -L
[12:31] <deviant> pfp: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/94
[12:31] <bigfoot1> is there a way i could find chatrooms that are outside freenode.net?
[12:31] <peter__> hnbe gestern den anmeldemanager ahfgemach und ein anderes Loging eingestellt und komm immoment nich wieder in den Anmeldemanager habe ausversehen netzwerk gelsht.Nun bekommme ich die meldung das ich in der /ets localhost etwas nder mu weil der Rechner beim start nicht ins Netz kommt.Ist da noch was zu retten?kan mir jemnt helfen?Peter
[12:31] <thoreauputic> peter__: /join #ubuntu-de
[12:31] <prasys> i got a question
[12:32] <prasys> why does ubuntu does not work well on PPC platform...
[12:32] <deviant> pfp: right now i`m usinf firestarter to share my internet connection, but is eating all my cpu :(
[12:32] <prasys> i can't use my airport card...
[12:32] <prasys> but other then that it works...btw , why does not kubuntu auto-mount all partition
[12:32] <thoreauputic> prasys: if it's airport extreme, blame Broadcom
[12:32] <pfp> deviant: the counters on the MASQ rule show that the rule is catching packets at least
[12:32] <prasys> true..I heard Broadcom is not giving the specs
[12:32] <prasys> I agree
[12:32] <prasys> lousy broadcom
[12:33] <thoreauputic> prasys: in answer to the second question, because not everyone wants that
[12:33] <prasys> thanks..i got it
[12:33] <m0r0n> I ve extended my memory from 256 to 512 MB. Do I have to change the size of the swap partition?
[12:33] <thoreauputic> m0r0n: how much swap do you have?
[12:34] <prasys> can..m0ron
[12:34] <prasys> its better
[12:34] <bigfoot1> My X-chat has a long list of servers. how do i know which one to choose if I'm looking for a country-based chatroom?
[12:34] <m0r0n> hm, good question
[12:34] <prasys> but normally if you let ubuntu do it , it uses double right..(DEPENDS how much space you give to it)
[12:34] <deviant> pfp: in ifconfig i have eth0, eth1, loopback and ppp0. i want to masquerade eth1 over eth0.
[12:34] <deviant> pfp: i think :P
[12:34] <thoreauputic> m0r0n: probably not necessary if you  have 500MB or so
[12:35] <pfp> deviant: or eth1 over ppp0, since you are using pppoe... i think .)
[12:35] <m0r0n> What command is used to show the size? swapon -a, df, mount?
[12:36] <thoreauputic> m0r0n: sudo fdisk -l to see your existing partitions
[12:36] <deviant> pfp: yeah. but ppp0 is actualy eth0. as i said, i`m usind pppoe on a ethernet card
[12:37] <m0r0n> fdisk -l -> /dev/hda5 9641 9733 746991 82 Linux swap ?
[12:37] <pfp> deviant: yep. i recon the kernel would be picky about which interface you configure iptables with (which is why i advice against using interface names there)
[12:38] <pfp> deviant: you could try with that command i gave earlier; you need to empty your nat table first with iptables -t nat -F
[12:38] <thoreauputic> m0r0n: plenty
[12:38] <m0r0n> ok
[12:38] <deviant> pfp: do i need to stop firestarter?
[12:39] <pfp> deviant: hmm probably, i'm not sure what it does :)
[12:39] <deviant> pfp: so "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/24 -d \! 10.0.0.0/24 -j MASQ" will do the job ?
[12:39] <pfp> deviant: it's either a frontend to iptables or something else
[12:39] <deviant> pfp: is fontend to iptables
[12:40] <Funraiser> i'm reading an HOWTO and it says to configure the kernel first : go to File systems ---> Network File Systems / where is that?
[12:40] <pfp> deviant: you need to replace 10.0.0.0/24 with your lan's real ip range
[12:40] <pfp> deviant: if it's just a frontend, how come it's eating your CPU?
[12:40] <deviant> pfp: that wold be 192.168.10.0 i think
[12:40] <deviant> pfp: don`t know ;(
[12:41] <pfp> deviant: better to get rid of it anyway then :)
[12:41] <deviant> pfp: as soon as i get the ICS up and runing
[12:41] <pfp> deviant: but hmm, since the rule it created works, you might as well keep that and put it somewhere else
[12:42] <deviant> pfp: somehere else? like where?
[12:43] <pfp> deviant: so umm (sorry if my output is garbled, i should be asleep already -) the 'eth1' stanza in /etc/network/interfaces would be a good lace
[12:43] <pfp> *place
[12:44] <smott> i'm about to reinstall windows on my hd which will install its bootloader, what exactly do i need to execute on the ubuntu livecd to replace it with lilo/grub (whatever it's using)?
[12:44] <pfp> deviant: you probably have like 'iface eth1 inet static\n address bla bla ..' there
[12:45] <pfp> after the address, broadcast etc lines for eth1, add one that says 'up sh iptables -t nat -F'
[12:45] <deviant> pfp: you`ve lost me there  :( i can`t understand a thing
[12:45] <pfp> aww :(())()
[12:45] <deviant> hehe
[12:46] <araw1> :)
[12:46] <det> Is there such thing as a totem mozilla plug-in?
[12:47] <deviant> pfp: this is how my interfaces look like: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96
[12:47] <pfp> heh, i was about to ask you that :)
[12:48] <deviant> pfp: so i need to add there my eth1 i think..
[12:48] <deviant> or not?
[12:48] <pfp> omg, it uses hotplug, i'm too old for that
[12:48] <Akrame`joue> how old are you ?
[12:48] <Akrame`joue> :D
[12:48] <deviant> hehe
[12:48] <pfp> is your eth1 working currently?
[12:49] <deviant> pfp: right now , yes. i`ve just configure it with ifconfig
[12:49] <pfp> 25, but i meant old as in linux habits
[12:49] <pfp> deviant: ah, fine
[12:50] <deviant> pfp: all i need from eth1 is the ip, which is 192.168.10.2
[12:50] <deviant> pfp: what`s with hotplug?
[12:51] <pfp> deviant: nothing, i thought hotplug had magically configured your eth1 and doing it manually would mess things up
[12:51] <pfp> but since you did it by hand, this should be ok too
[12:51] <Akrame`joue> see ya
[12:52] <deviant> pfp: won`t i need to add eth1 there, so i won`t have to configure it each time i start the computer?
[12:53] <pfp> deviant: yep
[12:54] <pfp> deviant: i really shouldn't be giving you ready-made conf files, but here goes http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/97
[12:54] <deviant> pfp: and how do i do that. i face eth1 and what else?
[12:54] <newbie> anyone knows any program like NIS which I can use?
[12:55] <pfp> deviant: check out the pastebin..
[12:55] <deviant> pfp: aha, i think i understand now
[12:56] <thoreauputic> newbie: I think you need to rephrase your question: what's wrong with using NIS ?
[12:56] <pfp> deviant: that should create the same rule that firestarter did (for the nat table)
[12:57] <pfp> deviant: if you have some filtering rules (iptables -vn -L), created by FS, you need to add them too
[12:57] <deviant> pfp: so now i have to stop the firestarter and reboot the pc ?
[12:57] <deviant> FS ?
[12:57] <pfp> FS=firestarter
[12:57] <deviant> ow
[12:58] <pfp> deviant: no need to reboot, just type 'ifconfig eth1 down' , then 'ifup eth1'
[12:58] <deviant> no, there are no rules. atlest i didn`t made any
[12:58] <deviant> aha
[12:58] <pfp> on next reboot, everything should be up automatically
[12:58] <pfp> ok, good
[12:59] <deviant> pfp: do i need to clear the nat table first ? with iptables -t nat -F ?
[01:00] <pfp> deviant: when you run ifup eth1, it runs that -F command too
[01:00] <deviant> aha
[01:00] <[v2hja] > delire,
[01:00] <[v2hja] > hi
[01:01] <pfp> reading 'man ifup' is of course a good idea ,)
[01:02] <deviant> pfp: it is working. 10x dude :)
[01:03] <newbie> anyone know program using the concept of NIS?
[01:03] <deviant> pfp: i will, as soon as i`m done with the school exams ...which will be in like, 1 month :(
[01:06] <newbie> anyone know program using the concept of NIS?
[01:06] <linuxboy> whats the name of the flast package in ubuntu?
[01:06] <linuxboy> flash
[01:07] <pfp> deviant: ooh, great :)
[01:07] <black_Nightmare> hey there :p
[01:08] <eggs> gplflash > flash
[01:08] <mirkash> join #mirkash
[01:08] <deviant> pfp: i owe you a beer :)
[01:08] <deviant> pfp: nighty night :)
[01:08] <black_Nightmare> any of you ppc users at all here?
[01:09] <pfp> deviant: cheers .)
[01:19] <kakalto> yay!
[01:19] <kakalto> I got RAID to work
[01:21] <rob^> why does the wiki not allow anyone to sign up?
[01:22] <kakalto> it doesn't?
[01:23] <rob^> I click sign up and it says to fill out the four fields, but there is only 2, Name and Password
[01:23] <rob^> I mean, I click "login"
[01:25] <learn25> hi all!
[01:26] <learn25> i need your help. i just follwed the instructions of setting up dhcp server at www.ubuntuguide.org but it wont start.
[01:26] <learn25> anybody can help me?
[01:27] <learn25> i need your help. i just followed the instructions of setting up dhcp server at www.ubuntuguide.org but it wont start.
[01:27] <learn25> anybody can help me?
[01:27] <firasR> learn25:  did you check your logs for any errors ?
[01:27] <firasR> learn25:  /var/log/messages ?
[01:28] <firasR> learn25: first go to /var/log
[01:29] <firasR> learn25:  run ls in that directory to see what log files are there, are there any log files named dhcp-something or other ?
[01:29] <learn25> i saw the log but it looks foreign to me
[01:29] <learn25> ok
[01:29] <Seveas> learn25, wired or wireless?
[01:29] <natecull> hi
[01:30] <natecull> I have a problem with printing on Hoary
[01:30] <learn25> i have to NIC eth0 and eth1
[01:30] <firasR> hi nate
[01:30] <learn25> i want to share eth0 to the rest of the pc
[01:30] <natecull> if I cancel a print job on my printer, even if I clear the print job from the Print Manager, I still get data spooling to the printer when I turn it on again
[01:30] <learn25> i need your help. i just followed the instructions of setting up dhcp server at www.ubuntuguide.org but it wont start.
[01:30] <natecull> any idea what's going on?
[01:30] <Seveas> learn25, forget ubuntuguide
[01:30] <firasR> learn25:  please don't repeat your question multiple times
[01:31] <Seveas> learn25, install firestarter
[01:31] <karamazof> pfp: hi I'm back :-z
[01:31] <learn25> how to install fire starter?
[01:31] <natecull> I need to be able to completely clear a job from the print subsystem. I've tried restarting /etc/init.d/cupsys, but no luck
[01:31] <rob^> doh!
[01:31] <natecull> there's no job showing in lpq, but if I turn my printer off and on it is getting a job from somewhere...
[01:32] <karamazof> pfp: I tried to launch amule being root, and I got high id
[01:32] <natecull> I can clear this by rebooting, but I don't want to reset my uptime. :)
[01:32] <karamazof> pfp: hourray
[01:32] <Octane> anyone know what happened to the openoffice2.org-core pkg?
[01:33] <thoreauputic> natecull: the job might be cached in the printer itself
[01:33] <karamazof> can someone tell me how to give to a user the right to acces my 4662 port?
[01:33] <natecull> thoreauputic: It's an HP Deskjet 400. I don't think it'
[01:33] <karamazof> and use amule
[01:33] <natecull> it's got any RAM
[01:33] <natecull> certainly none that persists after a power-cycle
[01:33] <natecull> I never used to have this problem on Fedora Core 1, which is what I was running before Hoary
[01:34] <thoreauputic> natecull: right, I was just having a guess really - I've seen that happen
[01:34] <carambol> how i get sound out of stream-links in ubuntu?
[01:34] <selinium> karamzof: Install firestarter and it is pretty easy to open ports using it. Any probs get back.
[01:34] <thoreauputic> carambol: a number of ways
[01:34] <natecull> thoreauputic: yeah, I'm scratching my head
[01:34] <thoreauputic> carambol: what kind of stream?
[01:34] <carambol> radio
[01:35] <karamazof> selinium: my ports are open, I can use them being root,...
[01:35] <thoreauputic> carambol: uh - mp3 shoutcast? windows media? real?
[01:35] <carambol> i enabled esd butno sound
[01:35] <carambol> bbc,radio NL
[01:35] <thoreauputic> carambol: BBC uses realplay
[01:36] <carambol> but no sound
[01:36] <thoreauputic> carambol: so you would need realplater to listen
[01:36] <thoreauputic> *realplayer
[01:36] <carambol> also no sound witj mpl or real
[01:36] <underdog> guys... in breezy, when can I update safelly without xbase-clients removing nvidia-glx? :(
[01:36] <thoreauputic> carambol: you get sound playing local mp3 etc?
[01:36] <firasR> learn25:  what do you get when u do sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart
[01:37] <deco_> hi, i'll have bt878 series pci video capture card, where could i get drivers and software for that?
[01:37] <selinium> karamazof: Applications/Sytem Tools/Network Tools  then Port Scan 127.0.0.1
[01:37] <carambol> i have not try that
[01:37] <deco_> or actually i have it now
[01:37] <carambol> should i use esd?
[01:37] <deco_> esd for what?
[01:37] <deco_> alsa is better
[01:38] <karamazof> selinium: 4662 open
[01:38] <thoreauputic> carambol: well, try it - we can't sort out the streaming issues until you know if sound works locally
[01:38] <selinium> thoreauputic: Is was wondering what realplater was! :) Good to see you
[01:38] <carambol> i am using both gnome and kde
[01:38] <rob^> i bet that sux
[01:38] <selinium> karamazof: What are you trying to do with the port? what kind of access are you trying to give?
[01:39] <carambol> thoreauputic, i have installed both gnome and kde
[01:39] <karamazof> selinium: I am trying to use it with amule, whitch is configurated to use that port
[01:39] <carambol> in kde no probl
[01:39] <natecull> weird. If I shut down cupsys completely, I still get data spooling to the printer
[01:40] <natecull> wonder if the lp kernel module is caching data somehow?
[01:40] <karamazof> selinium: When running amule being root, I have no problem... but just running it normally I ged no acces to 4662 port
[01:41] <selinium> karamazof: I see... When you ran the port scan, that was as the user and not root, yes?
[01:41] <thoreauputic> natecull: have you tried lprm ?
[01:42] <sandip> My heartfelt thanks to Canonical for shipping 5.04 over to my place for distributing to my local LUG. :)
[01:43] <sandip> ... to New Delhi, India.
[01:43] <rob^> sandip, I got them in Aus too, good service that
[01:44] <thoreauputic> sandip: if you want to thank the developers themselves, join #ubuntu-devel :)
[01:44] <selinium> sandip: me too, in the UK. I wonder which travelled the furthest!
[01:44] <sandip> thoreauputic: thanks. will do.
[01:44] <sandip> selinium: the envelope said they came from netherlands. :-/
[01:44] <thoreauputic> but I got a few at Ubuntu Downunder anyway :)
[01:45] <natecull> thoreauputic: yes, lprm reports there are no jobs in the queue
[01:45] <natecull> that's why I'm suspecting that it's not CUPS which is sending the information to the printer
[01:45] <selinium> natecull: Have you switched of your printer and restarted it?
[01:45] <thoreauputic> natecull: is it sitting in /tmp or something, maybe?
[01:45] <natecull> selinium: yes. When I turn the printer on again, its data light starts flashing
[01:45] <natecull> thoreauputic: that's what I'm guessing, I just have no idea where.
[01:46] <selinium> natecull: swithc off the printer, and disconnect it from the PC. switch it back on, to see if the printer is running on its own
[01:47] <selinium> hi thoreauputic :)
[01:47] <thoreauputic> natecull: hehe.... mv /tmp/* /tmp/test (but that would maybe break something..)
[01:47] <thoreauputic> selinium: hi - I got cut off before :)
[01:47] <thoreauputic> selinium: ISP
[01:47] <selinium> thoreauputic: I saw! damn ISP what do we pay them for!
[01:47] <natecull> when I switch the printer off and unplug the data cable, it's just fine
[01:48] <natecull> when I connect it to the PC, it gets data
[01:48] <thoreauputic> selinium: heh - well I exceeded my time limit so I can't complain really ;)
[01:48] <natecull> thoreauputic: there were a couple of .ppd files in /tmp dated a few minutes ago, I deleted them but it still dumps data to the printer
[01:48] <selinium> natecull: great now we are certain it is the computer sending to the information.
[01:48] <natecull> selinium: yeah
[01:48] <hypn0_> i want to install packages maually, r they all in the pool directory
[01:49] <thoreauputic> hypn0_: why?
[01:49] <natecull> I notice there's an 'lptune -r' command that claims to reset the parallel port, but it says 'Device or resource busy'
[01:49] <natecull> I've shut down cupsys
[01:49] <natecull> what else would be holding /dev/lp0 open?
[01:49] <hypn0_> thoreauputic, no net access yet :-)
[01:49] <thoreauputic> hypn0_: I see...
[01:49] <Funraiser> China's biggest bank makes switch to linux http://www.networkworld.com/news/2005/0429chinabigge.html
[01:49] <thoreauputic> natecull: fuser /dev/lp0   ?
[01:50] <selinium> natecull: /etc/init.d/cupsys force-reload ? have you tried that?
[01:50] <natecull> thoreauputic: fuser /dev/lp0 gives me no output
[01:51] <natecull> selinium: oops. cupsd: Child exited with status 13!
[01:51] <natecull> guess that means it doesn't want to start again...
[01:54] <selinium> natecull: is cupsd up or down?
[01:54] <natecull> wait. Silly me
[01:54] <natecull> I tried to run that as user, not as sudo
[01:54] <selinium> natecull: :)
[01:54] <natecull> just did a start then a force-reload as sudo and it's fine
[01:54] <natecull> well, running...
[01:54] <natecull> but printer's still getting data
[01:55] <natecull> so no effect
[01:55] <karamazof> selinium: sorry I was distrayed, yes the port scan was being user
[01:55] <thoreauputic> natecull: ps aux | grep lp*    ?
[01:56] <selinium> natecull: AAaaargh, I am getting out of my depth, maybe thoreauputic can help...... there you go!
[01:56] <thoreauputic> selinium: I'm just making what I hope might be intelligent guesses ;-)
[01:56] <selinium> karamazof: Then the port is open, and the problem does not lie with the port.
[01:57] <selinium> thoreauputic: Got to be better than mine then! :P
[01:58] <alonso> hi everybody
[01:58] <alonso> i just used ubuntu today
[01:58] <selinium> thoreauputic:  natecull: Got to go, too much work to do!
[01:58] <thoreauputic> selinium: BTW my pentium 200mmx is now running Ubuntu !
[01:59] <stazz> Hey. a friend of mine has got two Konica Revio digital cameras, and they both do not automount, but HAL/GVM seems to work otherwise, as in, cd's do mount
[01:59] <thoreauputic> .. on 64MB RAM
[01:59] <alonso> i would like to know that
[01:59] <alonso> how can i upgrade mozilla-firefox as 1.0.4 by apt-get
[01:59] <rob^> alonso, if you are using hoary its already 1.0.4
[01:59] <thoreauputic> alonso: you don't need to - just run apt-get upgrade
[01:59] <Seveas> alonso, FF in ubuntu is 1.0.2 with all 1.0.4 security patches applied
[02:00] <Seveas> you do NOT need to update it
[02:00] <thoreauputic> alonso: if you need to install themes there's a simple hack..
[02:00] <selinium> thoreauputic:  I thought mine was a dinosaur! Athlon 900 128k lol
[02:01] <thoreauputic> selinium: I have 3 machines here - I wiped Debian Woody on the oldest one and put Ubuntu on as an experiment :)
[02:01] <alonso> ok. i will try it
[02:01] <alonso> and if i want to use g95
[02:01] <thoreauputic> selinium: it's running fine on fluxbox :)
[02:02] <thoreauputic> g95 ??
[02:02] <alonso> fortran 95
[02:02] <selinium> thoreauputic:  I am thinking of making a mailserver out of an old box.... When I get round to it!
[02:03] <selinium> thoreauputic:  too many relatives asking me to fix there machines after downloading infected mail..
[02:03] <thoreauputic> alonso: I see g77 compilers here...
[02:03] <alonso> i got g77 already, sir
[02:04] <natecull> woohoo
[02:04] <natecull> managed to rmmod lp
[02:04] <natecull> finally
[02:04] <natecull> that fixed it
[02:04] <natecull> sort of
[02:05] <selinium> natecull:  sort of?
[02:05] <natecull> now the Deskjet thinks it wants a colour cartridge
[02:05] <thoreauputic> alonso: I don't see g95 in an apt-cache search - maybe ask in #ubuntu-devel if it is available?
[02:05] <natecull> oops, scrambled the job again. Let's try that again.
[02:05] <natecull> job is gone from queue. Printer is switched off...
[02:06] <alonso> so, is it possible to download it from gnu project and install it??
[02:07] <natecull> reloaded lp...
[02:07] <thoreauputic> alonso: Anything is possible ;)
[02:07] <thoreauputic> alonso: I don't see why not
[02:07] <natecull> power on to printer... it doesn't attempt to print... so far so good
[02:07] <rob^> alonso, maybe its available from another apt soruce
[02:07] <alonso> thanks a lot, sir
[02:07] <natecull> ok, working now
[02:08] <natecull> so reloading lp is the answer
[02:08] <natecull> dunno why it was blocked there for a moment.
[02:08] <thoreauputic> natecull: I'll remeber that...
[02:08] <alonso> what do you mean
[02:09] <thoreauputic> natecull: I had a similar experience a few years ago which I called my "Sorcerer's Apprentice" incident: printer wouldn't stop...
[02:09] <alonso> what do you mean, rob^
[02:09] <rob^> alonso, ubuntu uses the debian packaging system, you can add other apt-get sources to your system that include other packaes
[02:10] <rob^> *packages
[02:10] <underdog> guys... in breezy, when can I update safelly without xbase-clients removing nvidia-glx? :(
[02:11] <thoreauputic> underdog: probably not many Breezy users here...
[02:11] <rob^> alonso, have a look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HowToEnableTheMultiverseRepositoryInUbuntu
[02:11] <thoreauputic> rob^: I have multiverse enabled, but I don't see g95, only g77
[02:11] <rob^> the "mutiverse" repository contains other packages not available in a default install
[02:13] <thoreauputic> rob^: also a compiler distributed by GNU would not be in a non-free repository
[02:13] <rob^> thoreauputic, alonso try: apt-get install gfortran-4.0
[02:13] <rob^> from apt-cache search: gfortran-4.0 - The GNU Fortran 95 compiler
[02:14] <Benjamin_L> does anyone here know how to restore default network setting if you accidentally changed something
[02:14] <thoreauputic> rob^: aha - good catch!
[02:14] <alonso> rob^, thoreauputic, it downdoading and install
[02:14] <rob^> theres also the docs, gfortran-4.0-doc
[02:15] <floater> Hi. What's the proper way to remove pppoe internet connection from my ubuntu and then set up the internet connection as normal adsl connection from adsl's dhcp-server?
[02:16] <alonso> rob^, Is gfortran and fortran 95 the same???
[02:16] <rob^> alonso, its GNUs free implementation of fortran 95
[02:17] <rob^> see gfortran-4.0-doc
[02:19] <alonso> rob^, there are some errors with gfortran
[02:20] <alonso> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:20] <alonso>  /var/cache/apt/archives/gcc-4.0-base_4.0-0pre6ubuntu7_i386.deb
[02:20] <alonso>  /var/cache/apt/archives/cpp-4.0_4.0-0pre6ubuntu7_i386.deb
[02:20] <rob^> does it say what errors?
[02:21] <rob^> you may need to add the hoary-backports repositories to your apt-get sources
[02:22] <thoreauputic> rob^: hrm - the package he's installing is in Universe, so the deps should be in main or universe
[02:22] <rob^> thoreauputic, for some reason it isnt
[02:23] <alonso> rob^, i just fixed it from its suggestion
[02:23] <thoreauputic> assuming his sources are properly configured
[02:23] <rob^> I just tried pulling the fortran 95 packages itself
[02:24] <J2Dope> gday. i have an ubuntu desktop pc, with an external hdd (all my music etc).. and i gots a winXP laptop
[02:24] <thoreauputic> rob^: if you have backports enebled, of course you will get inconsistencies - apt will look for the latest versions
[02:24] <J2Dope> how can i let my winxp laptop, access that externall HDD that is formatted to ext3 ?
[02:24] <rob^> thoreauputic, well, he isnt getting the packages at all
[02:25] <rob^> at least it satifies the deps
[02:25] <thoreauputic> rob^: alonso rob^, i just fixed it from its suggestion
[02:25] <thoreauputic> I thought he fixed it?
[02:25] <anacron> J2Dope: samba!
[02:25] <J2Dope> anyone?
[02:25] <markus_> you just format it do fat
[02:25] <rob^> apt-get -f install?
[02:25] <markus_> or ntfs
[02:25] <J2Dope> samba eh
[02:25] <J2Dope> nooo i dont want it to be fat or ntfs.. cos then linux can't write to it
[02:25] <alonso> rob^, yes, is it true
[02:26] <J2Dope> do i need to install anything on windows to get samba working?
[02:26] <thoreauputic> J2Dope: linux can write to fat32
[02:26] <markus_> linux CAN write ntfs
[02:26] <markus_> there are several tools
[02:26] <anacron> linux can make you better person!
[02:26] <J2Dope> hmmmm... that would require backing up about 80gigz of data onto dvds... i think ill leave it as ext3 and try this samba stuff
[02:26] <markus_> yeah i got a better person ;-)
[02:26] <thoreauputic> markus_: they are still regarded as experimental in most quarters
[02:27] <J2Dope> i know i got samba installed. just dunno how to use it :P
[02:27] <J2Dope> does samba have a gui?
[02:27] <ice04> Hi all i need to install sendmail, how can i apt-get
[02:27] <rob^> ice04, dee #sendmail
[02:27] <rob^> *see
[02:28] <markus_> just use synaptic thats much easier
[02:28] <thoreauputic> ice04: it's in universe
[02:28] <ice04> just using it for learning purposes
[02:28] <thoreauputic> ice04: enable universe && apt-get update && apt-get install sendmail
[02:28] <ice04> What would be the most stable, secure, easy to manage MTA
[02:29] <alonso> thanks for thoreauputic and rob^ again
[02:29] <rob^> hehe MTA wars!!
[02:29] <rob^> np
[02:29] <J2Dope> ok. question. can WINDOWS write to linux formatted drives?
[02:29] <rob^> J2Dope, ext2 it can with the right drivers..
[02:29] <thoreauputic> J2Dope: there are some tools - I forget the name but google knows all
[02:30] <J2Dope> lol ok. google is cool. but straight answers are better aye ;)
[02:30] <J2Dope> thanks guys . peace
[02:31] <ice04> Exim, Qmail
[02:31] <hypn0_> i just found http://packages.ubuntu.com/ :-)
[02:31] <markus_> good man!
[02:31] <thoreauputic> ice04: you will get a lot of differing opinions on this one *grin*
[02:32] <ice04> any sit i can check out that discusses the 2 MTA's
[02:32] <thoreauputic> only 2?
[02:32] <ice04> Basically i have a client that wants a Mail server, i cant decide on sendmail, Exim, or Qmail
[02:32] <ice04> i have never worked on any of them before
[02:32] <thoreauputic> ice04: there was a comparison article in Linux Format a year or two ago..
[02:33] <thoreauputic> ice04: you might find it online or be able to get it
[02:33] <thoreauputic> ice04: you realise the Ubuntu default is postfix?
[02:33] <ice04> Thoreauputic: will google it out :-)
[02:33] <ice04> thanks again
[02:34] <rob^> hypn0_, whats wrong with apt-cache?
[02:34] <ice04> Postfix ??
[02:35] <hypn0_> rob^ dont have net access :-/
[02:37] <rob^> thoreauputic, hehe yeah
[02:37] <hypn0_> in ubuntu yet :-)
[02:39] <markus_> i just got my 3D running on ubuntu...
[02:41] <lbm> inotify enabled in breezy kernels?
[02:41] <topyli> hmm. beagled launches a dozen shells, all running mono :)
[02:42] <lbm> it doesn't seem to be inotifized
[02:42] <krod> hello, how would i make a swap partition when ubuntu is alreadly installed?
[02:42] <topyli> it's not
[02:42] <lbm> no /dev/inotify either
[02:42] <topyli> i hope it makes it into breezy
[02:43] <lbm> isn't the kernel patched but not enabled?
[02:43] <topyli> lbm: in breezy i don't know. in hoary you need to patch it yourself IIRC
[02:44] <krod> hello, how would i make a swap partition when ubuntu is alreadly installed....i seem have forgotten to while i was installing ubuntu
[02:44] <lbm> topyli: okay, i'll take a look in the source packages
[02:45] <thoreauputic> krod: are you sure? Or was it made for you by default? What does sudo fdisk -l show?
[02:46] <thoreauputic> krod: you can make a swap file by using dd to make a file of XMB of zeros, then run swapon, but I forget the right dd syntax
[02:46] <rob^> krod, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SwapFaq
[02:47] <krod> krod@krodtop:~/tools$ fdisk -l
[02:47] <krod> krod@krodtop:~/tools$
[02:47] <thoreauputic> krod: sudo fdisk -l
[02:47] <thoreauputic> krod: it needs access with root privileges
[02:48] <fabbione> seb128: mostlikely :)
[02:48] <fabbione> ops
[02:48] <thoreauputic> !who owns you
[02:48] <ubotu> thoreauputic: Bugger all, i dunno
[02:49] <thoreauputic> haha
[02:49] <thoreauputic> ubotu has amnesia again
[02:49] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, thoreauputic
[02:49] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[02:49] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:49] <Seveas> thoreauputic, stop abusing the bot...
[02:49] <krod> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[02:49] <krod> /dev/hda1   *           1        2550    20482843+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:49] <krod> /dev/hda2            2551        4864    18587205   83  Linux
[02:49] <thoreauputic> Seveas: crap
[02:49] <Seveas> do not paste in here!
[02:49] <thoreauputic> Seveas: i wasn't even remotely abusing it
[02:50] <Seveas> thoreauputic, !who owns you ....
[02:50] <krod> ok, but it was two lines.....
[02:50] <bartekp_> ;>
[02:50] <topyli> krod: ok, you don't have swap
[02:50] <Seveas> krod, ah ok :)
[02:50] <thoreauputic> Seveas: I was just showing rob^ it exists
[02:50] <Seveas> krod, usually fdisk -l spits out more, that's why i muted you
[02:50] <krod> Seveas: i got the wireless working btw :)
[02:50] <Seveas> nice :)
[02:50] <thoreauputic> Seveas: get a life, mate
[02:50] <Seveas> thoreauputic, sorry then
[02:50] <rob^> does the bot do much?
[02:51] <waka> /join #fedora
[02:51] <Benjamin_L> does anyone know whick package contains /etc/hosts ?
[02:51] <rob^> pfft
[02:51] <Seveas> rob^, it can remember things and give answers when you type !something
[02:51] <Seveas> Benjamin_L, dpkg -S /etc/hosts
[02:51] <waka> scuse
[02:52] <thoreauputic> Seveas: apology accepted: you should know by now I don't play those kinds of games, though
[02:52] <Seveas> thoreauputic, i know, i was surprised by it :)
[02:52] <topyli> rob^: it doesn't know much yet apparently
[02:52] <rob^> Seveas, does it answer ubuntu-related questions ala #debian?
[02:52] <rob^> hehe
[02:52] <topyli> we need to teach it
[02:52] <Seveas> rob^, yes
[02:52] <Benjamin_L> Seveas, doesn't find a package
[02:52] <thoreauputic> Seveas: it used to have a factoid saying it was cafuego's bot - hence the initial question
[02:52] <Seveas> Benjamin_L, then it's part of the debootstrap install
[02:53] <rob^> how does it learn?
[02:53] <Benjamin_L> can some breezy user message me the standard hosts file please ?
[02:53] <Seveas> by typing: ubotu blah is something it will know !blah
[02:53] <kvidell> see ya
[02:53] <rob^> in the chan, or prvmsg?
[02:53] <Benjamin_L> prvmsg
[02:53] <Seveas> unfortuneately chan too
[02:53] <rob^> cool
[02:53] <rob^> hah
[02:54] <Benjamin_L> ah, missunderstood ^^
[02:54] <krod> ok, now i have a 512mb swap
[02:54] <krod> :)
[02:54] <krod> that should be enough?
[02:55] <Seveas> ubotu windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[02:55] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[02:55] <topyli> krod: how much ram do you have?
[02:55] <krod> 256mb
[02:55] <topyli> krod: it should do it
[02:56] <Cableguy> Good morning
[02:56] <Benjamin_L> a horay hosts file would do aswell :) i just don't want to wait more than 10s if i enter the adress of a page
[02:56] <topyli> krod: i have 256M ram and i hardly swap with usual workstation stuff
[02:56] <Seveas> Benjamin_L: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.
[02:57] <Seveas>  /etc/hosts does not contain a lot of useful things
[02:57] <Benjamin_L> Seveas, wow, that did the trick, but it worked before aswell
[02:57] <Benjamin_L> so thats why I'm asking
[02:57] <Seveas> :)
[02:57] <Cableguy> IPV6?  what is that all about?
[02:57] <theine_> Hi, is anybody using acroread 7.0 from hoary-extras (Ubuntu Backports)?
[02:58] <topyli> theine_: sorry to say but yes i upgraded
[02:58] <Seveas> theine_, i'm using it from the binary installer provided by adobe
[02:59] <theine_> The thing is that acroread from hoary-extras depends on a more recent version of libgcc1 than is present in hoary...
[02:59] <Seveas> theine_, ouch that sucks
[02:59] <rob^> Seveas, using "ubotu blah is something" doesnt seem to work
[02:59] <Seveas> that libgcc1 is available in hoary-backports
[02:59] <Seveas> rob^, scroll a bit back
[02:59] <Seveas> I just taught him something
[02:59] <Seveas> !windowsdrives
[02:59] <ubotu> from memory, windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[03:00] <greebo> hi all, anyone had to install ubuntu onto a machine with a usb cdrom? I'm looking at installing using the debian boot floppies and then "upgrading" to ubuntu. Sound plausible?
[03:00] <theine_> Seveas, it does, especially since acroread evidentelly runs very fine with an older version of libgcc1...
[03:00] <greebo> I've tried it and get serious usb errors
[03:00] <rob^> Seveas, it doesnt seem to work in prvmsg
[03:00] <Seveas> rob^, ah ok
[03:00] <Seveas> I never said it would :D
[03:00] <rob^> :)
[03:01] <Seveas> theine, then download the deb, unar it, edit the debian/control and re-ar it :)
[03:01] <theine_> Seveas, thanks, i'll try that
[03:02] <Cableguy> Anyone recomend a quite serial raid drive, my shit is way to loud
[03:03] <Seveas> thoreauputic, please :)
[03:03] <Seveas> my colleagues don't like when all of I sudden i start to laugh loudly
[03:03] <thoreauputic> :)
[03:03] <topyli> greebo: don't know about the usb problems but upgrading from woody might work
[03:04] <rob^> !g95
[03:04] <ubotu> rob^: I don't know
[03:04] <Cableguy> yea.. thanks for the help
[03:05] <rob^> ubotu g95 is gfortran-4.0, the GNU Fortran 95 compiler.
[03:05] <ubotu> rob^: okay
[03:05] <rob^> !g95
[03:05] <ubotu> g95 is probably gfortran-4.0, the GNU Fortran 95 compiler.
[03:05] <rob^> nice
[03:06] <thoreauputic> rob^: heh - I've been hanging here for about 6 months or more and I've seen that question once ;)
[03:07] <rob^> well, now we wont forget :)
[03:07] <thoreauputic> rob^: but you never know when it might be useful I guess
[03:07] <greebo> topyli, k, cheers
[03:07] <thoreauputic> rob^: right ! :)
[03:07] <mindspin> hi, anyone here using fwbuilder ?
[03:08] <rob^> mindspin, try firestarter instead
[03:08] <mindspin> nope, I use it and need just some simple information
[03:09] <rob^> try google
[03:09] <mindspin> thought somebody may use it here
[03:09] <DaVe^_^> hi could someone help me with cedega
[03:09] <rob^> theres got to be a good guide or two on there
[03:10] <DaVe^_^> im running x86 hoary and cedega doesnt detect the cd for some reason.. iv checked the forums couldnt help the problem tho
[03:11] <vortex> huhu. can i mount ftp folders? if yes: how?
[03:12] <thoreauputic> vortex: you don't mount ftp - it's a file transfer protocol
[03:12] <Seveas> vortex, you can sort-of mount them
[03:12] <rob^> vortex, type ftp://ftpserver in natulius
[03:12] <Seveas> vortex, use places -> connect to server
[03:12] <Seveas> that will integrate the server into the Gnome Virtual FileSystem
[03:12] <thoreauputic> ah yes, OK - that can work with ssh too :)
[03:12] <DaVe^_^> no1 has any exp troubleshooting cedega?
[03:13] <HostingGeek> dear my fellow h4x0rz
[03:13] <HostingGeek> look at what I found
[03:13] <HostingGeek> https://console.google.com/licensing/admin?cmd=reload&lastcmd=login
[03:15] <Seveas> HostingGeek, why are you pasting that in here..?
[03:16] <HostingGeek> Because my fellow h4x0rz would be intrestested in it
[03:16] <Seveas> We are not crackers...
[03:16] <rob^> hehe
[03:17] <Seveas> It's so nice how /remove does not trigger auto-rejoin :)
[03:17] <Benjamin_L> Seveas, do you probable know how to disable IPv& in thunderbird as well ? It seems to be a system wide problem
[03:17] <DaVe^_^> some ppl are idiots
[03:17] <Seveas> Benjamin_L, look at the wiki for disabling ipv6 completely
[03:18] <Seveas> DaVe^_^, yeah, like those people that use abbreviations for everything...
[03:18] <Seveas> Or have smilies in their nicknames
[03:18] <DaVe^_^> lol
[03:18] <DaVe^_^> ok
[03:18] <Seveas> :)
[03:19] <theine_> Seveas, thanks for the hint with ar/unar, worked really nicely
[03:19] <nxv_> how can i setup my server to boot at a given time, run some tasks and shutdown again?
[03:19] <Seveas> nice :)
[03:19] <HostingGeek> Seveas: we are hackers
[03:19] <thoreauputic> ... or say lol all the time ...
[03:19] <Seveas> hmm
[03:19] <rob^> hehe mute him
[03:19] <Seveas> neh
[03:19] <Seveas> fools like that ought to be removed
[03:19] <xoz> nxv_: if it is shutdown, how can you possible start it without pressing the power key?
[03:20] <Seveas> ooohhh - privmsgs :)
[03:20] <nxv_> xoz: wake on lan
[03:20] <DaVe^_^> shiet..
[03:20] <rob^> Seveas, aww.. your so lucky
[03:20] <Seveas> yeah :)
[03:20] <DaVe^_^> exetel is my host, thought u banned me for a sec
[03:20] <virtuald> nxv_: boot time can be set in the bios setup, the rest you can do with a script run by cron
[03:20] <Seveas> aaand goodbye :)
[03:20] <xoz> nxv_: that's sleeping, not shutdown?
[03:21] <nxv_> xoz: it comes up after init
[03:21] <nxv_> xoz: it comes up after init 0
[03:21] <vortex> Seveas thx. that was what i was looking for. i cant find where i can edit the settings for the "place".
[03:21] <nxv_> virtuald: i know, is there a way to set it from linux?
[03:21] <vortex> does that kind of work like shfs?
[03:21] <virtuald> not that i know of
[03:21] <HostingGeek> o.0
[03:21] <Seveas> vortex, sort of
[03:22] <Benjamin_L> Seveas, I wonder what caused this. It worked well until few hours ago. I'll reboot now
[03:23] <vortex> Seveas, with shfs i can reach the mounted files from konsole
[03:23] <geko> ciao raga
[03:23] <rob^> mmm choc-coated nice bikkies
[03:23] <Seveas> Gnome-vfs is only reachable from gnome-vfs aware programs
[03:23] <geko> come posso aggiungere programmi al menu?
[03:23] <geko> ops
[03:23] <Seveas> geko, we speak english in here...
[03:23] <geko> :)
[03:24] <vortex> i want to direktly open files from ftp with an texteditor. in windows i can do that with dreamweaver. i did not finde i way with linux :(
[03:24] <Seveas> vortex, you need to wait for LUFS to get an ftp implementation or for LUKS to get stable I guess...
[03:24] <Seveas> Or use a gnome-vfs aware text editor :D
[03:24] <rob^> vortex, do ftp://ftpserver in natulius then open the txt files from there
[03:25] <tahorg> vortex: gedit can do that
[03:27] <thoreauputic> tahorg: like ` gedit ftp://ftp.foo.org/myfile` ?
[03:27] <rob^> or nautilus.. even.
[03:28] <greebo> happy to report the new sarge boot floppies are hell better, and appear to be doing the right thing. Fingers crossed
[03:28] <Hajuu> Hey
[03:28] <rob^> thoreauputic, gedit has an "open location" under File menu
[03:28] <Hajuu> Anyone here ever setup a VPN through ubuntu?
[03:28] <thoreauputic> rob^: aha - learn something new every day ! Thanks :D
[03:28] <rob^> np
[03:29] <tahorg> thoreauputic: nautilus can "connect to server"
[03:29] <tahorg> thoreauputic: then it appears in the open dialog in gedit
[03:29] <thoreauputic> tahorg: that one I knew about :)
[03:29] <thoreauputic> i see
[03:29] <Benjamin_L> ok, now i need a new hosts file, as it got deleted somehow...
[03:29] <Seveas> it does webdav too :)
[03:29] <Benjamin_L> anyone ? ^^
[03:30] <rob^> Benjamin_L, do touch /etc/hosts
[03:30] <vortex> dows gedit have a files bar? like quanta?
[03:30] <rob^> bang, one hosts file
[03:30] <Seveas> Benjamin_L, pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/98
[03:30] <tahorg> thoreauputic: gedit ftp://user:login@server/path/to/file
[03:30] <tahorg> thoreauputic: works too
[03:30] <Seveas> Benjamin_L, and please edit it to reflect *your* hostname as 127.0.0.1
[03:30] <tahorg> gnome-vfs magic
[03:30] <thoreauputic> tahorg: OK
[03:30] <Benjamin_L> Seveas, will do
[03:31] <vortex> but i would not be very time efficient to open every file that way.
[03:31] <rob^> vortex, my way is easier
[03:31] <tahorg> vortex: Places -> connect to server
[03:32] <vortex> yes. but still no bar with the files
[03:32] <rob^> bbl
[03:33] <tahorg> 10
[03:33] <tahorg> oops
[03:34] <Hajuu> Anyone here ever setup a VPN through ubuntu?
[03:34] <tahorg> Hajuu: yep
[03:34] <tahorg> Hajuu: "openvpn is teh way"
[03:34] <Abijah> i need help logging into root
[03:34] <Seveas> Abijah: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:35] <HiddenWolf> Seveas, nice reflexes! :P
[03:35] <tahorg> Abijah: sudo su
[03:36] <vortex> tahorg, the file attributes are set to root even if i add the place as user
[03:36] <Hajuu> I cant figure out openvpn
[03:36] <Hajuu> be able to give me some help?
[03:36] <DaVe^_^> has anyone tried the 2.6.11 kernel?
[03:36] <Abijah> hmmm
[03:36] <Abijah> but it still wont let me log in as root
[03:36] <Seveas> keep it cool people :)
[03:36] <thoreauputic> DaVe^_^: don't. it has issues
[03:36] <DaVe^_^> ah i c
[03:37] <Abijah> i'm try to make a new partition on the drive
[03:37] <Hajuu> ok so uhm
[03:37] <Hajuu> im trying to connect to a windows server
[03:38] <action09> as many ... :)
[03:38] <tahorg> vortex: read only for me too. dunno how to get write accesse
[03:38] <Hajuu> openvpn --remote host 220.235.47.242 --client --auth-user-pass --dev ppp0
[03:38] <tahorg> -e
[03:38] <Hajuu> Thats what ive got
[03:38] <Hajuu> But it says I need a CA file or something
[03:38] <Hajuu> :/
[03:38] <tahorg> --dev ppp0 ?
[03:39] <Hajuu> yeah
[03:39] <Hajuu> use ppp0
[03:39] <tahorg> Hajuu: what's the server protocol ?
[03:39] <Hajuu> (my modem connection)
[03:39] <Hajuu> uhm
[03:39] <Hajuu> no idea
[03:39] <Hajuu> whatever windows uses
[03:39] <tahorg> then I don't know
[03:39] <tahorg> good luck
[03:40] <vortex> if i open gedit as root i cant see the place ^
[03:40] <Hajuu> lol
[03:40] <Hajuu> ok what about setting up a server?
[03:40] <Hajuu> can you help with that?
[03:41] <Hajuu> (a vpn server)
[03:41] <Hajuu> I have pptpd
[03:41] <DaVe^_^> does anyone have issues with firefox lagging in 32bit hoary?
[03:41] <DaVe^_^> freezing up the system
[03:42] <Hajuu> nope
[03:42] <Abijah> why can't i unable to open "fdisk /dev/hda" ?
[03:43] <Hajuu> try sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[03:43] <truz24> what would be causing the hald daemon to take a constant 15-30 % cpu usage
[03:43] <truz24> then when i reboot it is fine
[03:43] <Abijah> nice
[03:43] <Abijah> thanks
[03:43] <DaVe^_^> does anyone know how to make the physical eject button work
[03:45] <stazz> DaVe^_^: you have to unmount the medium first
[03:45] <DaVe^_^> no i mean pressing the button on the actual drive
[03:46] <Necromancer> if you first umount then it should work
[03:46] <DaVe^_^> ah okay, theres no way to automate this is there?
[03:47] <Hajuu> nope
[03:47] <Necromancer> no...for good reason :)
[03:47] <Necromancer> or at least I dont know a way :)
[03:47] <DaVe^_^> u happen to use cedega by any chance?
[03:48] <Hajuu> I do.
[03:48] <DaVe^_^> do u have warcraft working?
[03:49] <DaVe^_^> or tried
[03:49] <Hajuu> warcraft 3?
[03:49] <DaVe^_^> tft
[03:49] <Hajuu> yeah
[03:49] <Hajuu> No problems at all.
[03:49] <DaVe^_^> u didnt have a nocd problem?
[03:49] <Hajuu> oh
[03:49] <DaVe^_^> are u on 32bit hoary
[03:49] <Hajuu> you may need a nocd crack
[03:49] <Hajuu> (I did)
[03:49] <DaVe^_^> does it work on bnet?
[03:50] <Hajuu> uhm
[03:50] <Hajuu> it should
[03:51] <Hajuu> so long as you have a valid cd key
[03:51] <stazz> DaVe^_^: you can try unmounting the drive from your desktop
[03:51] <Hajuu> but to make sure
[03:51] <stazz> DaVe^_^: or ejecting it from there, the linux kernel locks the cd-drive when the medium is mounted
[03:51] <Hajuu> search for a bnet crack
[03:51] <Hajuu> there are some around.
[03:51] <DaVe^_^> have u got a working one on u?
[03:51] <DaVe^_^> ive tried a few already
[03:51] <DaVe^_^> stazz: would a mount -a work
[03:54] <stazz> DaVe^_^: no, example, umount /mnt/cdrom
[03:54] <xiaogil> Is there a counter tool somewhere  ?in Ubuntu
[03:54] <thoreauputic> Does anyone know how the heck you open hidden files with the gnome file finder dialogue? It's irritating as hell trying for instance to open "~/.fluxbox/menu" in gedit...
[03:54] <stazz> DaVe^_^: but it's media, so umount /media/cdrom
[03:54] <DaVe^_^> uhm.. so what happens when it asks me for the cd?
[03:54] <DaVe^_^> i just shove it back in?
[03:54] <thoreauputic> I know you can open the file from the CLI but really...
[03:54] <stazz> thoreauputic: view -> show hidden files
[03:55] <stazz> thoreauputic: or then enter /.fluxbox/ on the location
[03:55] <thoreauputic> stazz: that's in nautilus - I mean the "open with dialogue"
[03:55] <stazz> thoreauputic: right click - show hidden files
[03:56] <kemal> book
[03:56] <thoreauputic> stazz: aha - in the file area - thanks: that's so *not* intuitive...
[03:57] <stazz> thoreauputic: well, it was pretty obvious if one asks me :P
[03:58] <thoreauputic> stazz: there should be a button for it IMO - but whatever - i usually use a CLI editor anyway...
[03:59] <thoreauputic> stazz: even old apps like emelfm handle that better
[03:59] <stazz> thoreauputic: well, go tell that to the gtk team :)
[03:59] <thoreauputic> stazz: good idea
[03:59] <thoreauputic> so much for HIG
[03:59] <Abijah> is it possible to mount a windows drive and use the windows OS from the linux OS?
[04:00] <stazz> Abijah: well, it'd be possible to run windows inside bochs/vmware
[04:00] <chillywilly> I think you guys should just start shipping CDs all over the place like AOL
[04:00] <chillywilly> ;)
[04:00] <stazz> Abijah: but that's not really a very good idea anyway.
[04:00] <chillywilly> spam people with Ubuntu CDs in the mail
[04:01] <thoreauputic> chillywilly: ah, funny you should mention that- what a great idea! *grin*
[04:01] <chillywilly> :)
[04:04] <r3d0xXuS> lo
[04:04] <r3d0xXuS> cthulfuego there?
[04:05] <r3d0xXuS> hmm /
[04:05] <r3d0xXuS> :/
[04:05] <r3d0xXuS> do anyone know how install nvidia driver ?!
[04:06] <anto9us> Abijah: qemu may be a good option
[04:06] <r3d0xXuS> zyth?
[04:07] <Abijah> qemu?
[04:07] <Abijah> what is it, where can i get it?
[04:07] <r3d0xXuS> hello!? do someone has experience with nvidia graphic card driver how to install?!
[04:07] <anto9us> Abijah: see http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/ and it's in the repositories
[04:07] <Abijah> ok\
[04:07] <Abijah> thanks
[04:09] <r3d0xXuS> ...
[04:09] <delire> r3d0xXuS: see the howto
[04:11] <r3d0xXuS> i dod
[04:11] <r3d0xXuS> i did
[04:11] <r3d0xXuS> but didnt worked
[04:11] <r3d0xXuS> only errors
[04:11] <r3d0xXuS> so i tried otherway
[04:12] <r3d0xXuS> only ectract the file in a new directory
[04:12] <r3d0xXuS> so i did that so there is a lot of files
[04:12] <r3d0xXuS> so i dunno which ohne what i do can
[04:12] <why-oh-why> Please can somebody check this code for me, I can't figure out the difference between line 12 and line 14  http://tinyurl.com/34gqy   It's urgent - I can';t tell if the two lines read the same or if there is a small punctuation difference - my eyes are boggling!
[04:13] <underdog> why-oh-why: increase the font size?
[04:13] <why-oh-why> tried that underdog
[04:13] <skora> no
[04:13] <underdog> paste it here...
[04:13] <skora> its goatse
[04:14] <skora> nice try
[04:14] <DaVe^_^> lol
[04:14] <why-oh-why> hehe
[04:14] <DaVe^_^> sure mate
[04:15] <skora> uhh..i saw that it redirected to that mirror.
[04:15] <why-oh-why> u clicked on it didn't u
[04:15] <skora> i checked out what the redirect was.
[04:16] <r3d0xXuS> ...
[04:16] <r3d0xXuS> great
[04:16] <r3d0xXuS> noone helps me
[04:16] <why-oh-why> lol r3d0xXuS
[04:17] <DaVe^_^> neone got a nocd for war3tft? cant find one that works with bnet
[04:17] <why-oh-why> yes DaVe^_^
[04:18] <r3d0xXuS> hmm
[04:18] <T6> DaVe^_^, buy the game and get cedega
[04:18] <DaVe^_^> i have the game
[04:18] <r3d0xXuS> what is the command for mknod?
[04:18] <DaVe^_^> and i got cedega
[04:18] <DaVe^_^> and it gives me an annoying no cd error
[04:19] <r3d0xXuS> ................
[04:19] <r3d0xXuS> i love that
[04:19] <r3d0xXuS> noone ...
[04:19] <r3d0xXuS> its useles
[04:19] <r3d0xXuS> ..
[04:19] <DaVe^_^> why-oh-why can u gimme the link?
[04:19] <DaVe^_^> damnit stupid winex
[04:19] <rubern> hello everyone
[04:19] <r3d0xXuS> hi...
[04:19] <skora> r3d0xXuS, well, being a bit more patient may help, as well as posting in the forum.
[04:19] <DaVe^_^> wth does cedega charge for something that doesnt work
[04:20] <r3d0xXuS> rubern: r u experienced use from ubuntu ? :o
[04:20] <r3d0xXuS> user*
[04:20] <skora> howdy rubern
[04:20] <rubern> r3d0xXus reasonably ....
[04:21] <rubern> skora : howdy mate
[04:21] <prego> Hi!. I'm getting lots of failed attemps of login into my machine via ssh. Is there a way in ssh server to ignore requests for a day time when one IP has failed lets say ten times connecting into the machine?
[04:21] <r3d0xXuS> rubern: i have problem with nvidia graphiccard :x
[04:21] <rubern> r3d0xXus : Im not up to devices yet my friend
[04:21] <r3d0xXuS> k :x
[04:22] <rubern> your blah.conf i can help
[04:22] <prego> Failed logins from these:  root/password from xx.xxx.xx.xxx: 577 time(s
[04:22] <rubern> i dont have any other graphics card other than intel intergrated
[04:23] <rubern> prego : perhaps the global config file would say something
[04:23] <rubern> prego : ive never used SSH so im not sure
[04:23] <Abijah> does wine work good?
[04:23] <prego> Abijah: it does quite well during meals ;-P
[04:23] <Abijah> lol
[04:24] <rubern> not sure
[04:24] <rubern> havent had any time to try it
[04:25] <r3d0xXuS> jesus
[04:25] <r3d0xXuS> pleas e
[04:25] <r3d0xXuS> ..
[04:25] <nJess> i have a serious problem
[04:25] <rubern> njess : what is it?
[04:25] <nJess> i upgraded to hoary, but some of the warty config files are still thre, and i need to know how to replace them with the hoary config files
[04:26] <|Ivanch0|> hi someone can try to enter in www.billarnet.com and click in one notice? i can enter in any and in explorer y do it perfectly
[04:26] <kemal> #istanbul
[04:26] <|Ivanch0|> i cant
[04:27] <|Ivanch0|> any idea?
[04:27] <rubern> what config files are they?
[04:27] <nJess> uhmmm
[04:27] <nJess> any that would have been changes
[04:27] <Abijah> is there a wine package in the ubuntu installation?
[04:27] <nJess> changed*
[04:27] <rubern> your apt sources?
[04:28] <rubern> how did you upgrade?
[04:28] <nJess> they are whatever is in the original file, with the comment tags removed
[04:29] <prego> nJess: check "residual configuration" packages, at synaptic; also check "packages with debconf" which are the ones that can be reconfigured, AFAIK
[04:29] <rubern> what AFAIK prego?
[04:29] <rubern> ive heard AFK
[04:29] <prego> As Far As I Know
[04:30] <rubern> nJess : I just did a fresh install of hoary so i dont know how warty looked like
[04:30] <rubern> prego : illuminating
[04:30] <skora> Abijah, yes there is
[04:30] <skora> you can use apt-get to get it
[04:30] <nJess> prego, i don't see it
[04:30] <prego> Abijah: besides, backports has probaly a more recent version of wine
[04:31] <prego> nJess, let me see, wait a bit, please
[04:31] <Abijah> how do u use and find it?
[04:32] <prego> nJess: synaptic->Custom->Pkg with Debconf
[04:32] <prego> nJess: synaptic->Custom->Local or obsolete
[04:33] <prego> nJess: synaptic->State->Uninstalled(residual configuration)
[04:33] <wiegehts> *hello*
[04:34] <prego> nJess: I'm actually translating the names so actual labels may be a bit different
[04:36] <andrea> i got a serious prob with my keyb,  its taking along time  to display the char, pc speaker  emmits a clicking sound before each click
[04:37] <prego> andrea: check preferences->keyboard settings, disable sound click if enabled
[04:38] <wiegehts> clicking sound has to be annoying
[04:38] <wiegehts> i cant even imagine a reason for such an annoyance
[04:39] <spiderworm> hi all, i added my personal bin directory to my path in kde so that i could quickly execute my own scripts, it works in konsole (kde) but not in gnome terminal, what the hell?  does the gnome terminal not read .bash_profile ?
[04:39] <andrea> no idea how it came
[04:40] <prego> spiderworm: enable login shell option at your gnome-terminal profile
[04:40] <prego> spiderworm: preferences.
[04:40] <prego> spiderworm: and then, gnome-terminal will source .bash_*
[04:41] <spiderworm> run command as a login shell, aha!  thanx
[04:41] <chaitat> prego, thanks a lot
[04:41] <spiderworm> prego, thank you, and i just wanted to let you know that i like your spaghetti sauce
[04:41] <prego> spiderworm: gnome-terminal "thinks" your profile has been already setup by your X11 session, so it does not enable login shell by default
[04:42] <prego> spiderworm: he, he, not italian despite the nick ;-P
[04:42] <spiderworm> :D it works
[04:43] <prego> spiderworm: that needs to be done at each profile (in case you use many of them)
[04:44] <spiderworm> nah, i dont, this is perfect, thanx.  what would the use be of having multiple profiles, btw?
[04:44] <prego> spiderworm: I use multiple profiles, so I can have white terminals, blue terminals, transparent terminals, ..., depending on the task you are doing on each of them.
[04:45] <nJess> prego, i see none of it
[04:45] <nJess> but hey
[04:45] <prego> spiderworm: a profile at the end is "a kind of" terminal in terms mostly of appearance
[04:45] <nJess> i don't have much data
[04:45] <nJess> i'll just re-install warty and wait for my hoary CDs to come
[04:45] <klaym> what's the easiest way to setup a bluetooth connection between my computer (usb dongle) and Nokia 6600?
[04:45] <prego> nJess: :-((
[04:45] <nJess> prego
[04:45] <nJess> i know thats saad
[04:45] <nJess> took me 18 hours to upgrade the first time
[04:45] <ooberhaxxor> hi everyone
[04:46] <ooberhaxxor> im using ubuntu for the first time
[04:46] <greebo> ooberhaxxor, yay! :)
[04:46] <rubern> hello ooberhaxxor
[04:46] <prego> nJess, you don't have broadband, do you?
[04:46] <jgb> how do i make synaptic install transcode when it complains about libmagick5.5.7 when version 6 is installed?
[04:46] <ooberhaxxor> during install it didnt ask me for root PW but i need a PW now to run as root.. is there a default PW or can i change it?
[04:46] <klaym> what's the easiest way to setup a bluetooth connection between my computer (usb dongle) and Nokia 6600? which programs should I apt-get?
[04:47] <bob2> jgb: you can't, that's not how dependencies work
[04:47] <nJess> prego, i do, but it has a weird cap
[04:47] <prego> ooberhaxxor: by default, the first account you create has sudo access
[04:47] <bob2> ooberhaxxor: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:47] <bob2> ooberhaxxor: it explains that to you during the insall, btw
[04:47] <nJess> they throttle me after i exceed 100 megs in any 4 hour period
[04:47] <rubern> bob2 : I really dint see that one
[04:47] <jgb> aaaaaarg. how do i install transcode then?
[04:47] <prego> nJess: that is NOT broadband, that is "I will make you crazy"-band
[04:48] <DeathWing> hey guys, anyone knows how to configure an a4tech webcam on hoary
[04:48] <nJess> indeed
[04:48] <nJess> actually, if you do the math
[04:48] <bob2> ooberhaxxor: please don't /msg people
[04:48] <nJess> you can transfer the same ammount of data per month on broadband
[04:49] <nJess> er
[04:49] <nJess> dialup
[04:49] <bob2> ooberhaxxor: instead of asking for an explanation of sudo in general, why dont' you explain to use what you're trying to do?
[04:49] <prego> nJess: that is horrible. You cannot do heavy upgrades at all.
[04:49] <nJess> i know
[04:49] <nJess> im going to try to install KDE now
[04:49] <nJess> its not fixing the problem
[04:49] <skora> maybe it's for questionable activities....^_^
[04:49] <ooberhaxxor> i downloaded a .tar icon theme file and to untar it i need priveledges
[04:49] <nJess> but my hope is that it will act as a bandaid untill i get my pressed CD
[04:49] <bob2> ooberhaxxor: no, you don't
[04:50] <ooberhaxxor> it says i do
[04:50] <ooberhaxxor> i must be doing it wrong
[04:50] <bob2> prego: the only time you'll get more than 100MB of new packages on a stable release is right after a new release
[04:50] <bob2> ooberhaxxor: what are you trying to do?
[04:50] <prego> nJess I gess your upgrade provess from Warty to Hoary got interrupted many times...
[04:50] <DeathWing> wonder if any of u guys have a working a4tech webcam on hoary
[04:51] <nJess> prego
[04:51] <prego> bob2: the problem is that this guy upgraded from warty to hoary...
[04:51] <nJess> i typed N to config file changes
[04:51] <nJess> i've come to realize this
[04:51] <nJess> on windows, say no
[04:51] <nJess> in linux
[04:51] <ooberhaxxor> bob2, i am trying to untar the icons for use in gnome
[04:51] <nJess> say yes
[04:51] <bob2> prego: let it run for a couple of days
[04:51] <bob2> ooberhaxxor: I'm pretty sure you can do that through the gui, as a normal user
[04:51] <prego> nJess: you may also try dpkg-reconfigure
[04:51] <ooberhaxxor> i will try again thank you
[04:52] <nJess> ...
[04:52] <nJess> THANK YOU!!!
[04:52] <bob2> ooberhaxxor: try dragging it onto the theme manager thing in gnome
[04:52] <prego> nJess: dkpg-reconfigure --all
[04:52] <bob2> pretty sure that doesn't do anything
[04:52] <ooberhaxxor> kk brb
[04:52] <bob2> and it certainly doesn't reprompt you about package config file updates
[04:52] <why-oh-why> Please can somebody check this code for me, I can't figure out the difference between line 12 and line 14  http://tinyurl.com/34gqy   It's urgent - I can';t tell if the two lines read the same or if there is a small punctuation difference - my eyes are boggling!
[04:52] <spiral> hi
[04:53] <nJess> yeah, did nothing
[04:53] <nJess> wait
[04:53] <nJess> typed it wrong
[04:53] <nJess> heh
[04:53] <thoreauputic> why-oh-why: you really think we'll fall for the old goatse trick?
[04:53] <anto9us> why-oh-why: please don't do that
[04:54] <prego> nJess: actually don't forget the sudo
[04:54] <nJess> i got the sudo
[04:54] <nJess> :)
[04:54] <rubern> whats a goatse?
[04:54] <prego> nJess: sudo dpkg-reconfigure --all
[04:54] <nJess> heh
[04:54] <prego> rubern: yeah, there is still innocent people arround the internet....
[04:54] <squinn> bob2, heh
[04:54] <nJess> i've learned more about linux from ubuntu than i ever did with slackware, debian, RH or FC
[04:55] <nJess> everywhere else people were like RTFM
[04:55] <bob2> ubuntu's a nice gentle introduction
[04:55] <caonex> i am a bit confused with the new installation of the jre, the 1.5 v 3. It used to install everything and even ask me for the target java directory, but this bin file just uncompresses and i also have to copy the netscape plugin manually. How do i get jre to install in the system so i can run local java based programs, since right now all i have is the plugin?
[04:55] <squinn> bob2, it's also a nice intermediate linux
[04:55] <squinn> i mean, i was using gentoo and came to ubuntu
[04:55] <squinn> it's stable unstable, and it's wunderbar
[04:55] <prego> nJess: I've had many positive experiences with RH and Ximian Desktop people.
[04:55] <nJess> i got upset at ubntu
[04:56] <thoreauputic> squinn: you can do basically anything on ubuntu that you can in Debian
[04:56] <bob2> oh, sure, it's great for advanced people, too, but it's 'specially good for starting out
[04:56] <peppo> has anyone here tried the Agnula packages on top of Ubuntu?
[04:56] <squinn> oh yeah
[04:56] <squinn> I've got to try to get into doc meeting tonight, as I was a contributer to #gentoo-doc as well
[04:57] <nJess> i couldn't install UT2k4 in ubuntu because for that its better to have root at the gui
[04:57] <nJess> and i couldn't figure out how to enable it
[04:57] <nJess> :\
[04:57] <KarlosII> nJess, root terminal?
[04:57] <nJess> no, i had to set a root password
[04:57] <bob2> nJess: it's not "better" in any way
[04:57] <nJess> and enable root through GDM
[04:57] <bob2> nJess: you don't need to set a root password to install a game
[04:58] <thoreauputic> nJess: any program that requires root GUI is fundamentally b0rked
[04:58] <nJess> heh
[04:58] <nJess> it still didn't work
[04:58] <KarlosII> thoreauputic, agreed
[04:58] <bob2> nJess: run it with sudo from your regular terminal
[04:58] <nJess> well
[04:58] <nJess> it IS borked
[04:58] <KarlosII> uh no...
[04:58] <alxwind> is there anyway to activate/deactivate eth0 besides running command "ifup/ifdown"?
[04:58] <prego> nJess: do play enemy territory ;-P
[04:58] <KarlosII> I have no probs installing it as user
[04:58] <bob2> alxwind: why do you want another method?
[04:58] <prego> alxwind: yeah, there is a nice GUI at the system administration menu
[04:59] <alxwind> i can't start my Firestarter, it says that eth0 is not ready
[04:59] <KarlosII> although I haven't install it on a ubuntu systemyet
[04:59] <nJess> well, i have a windows box dedicated to games, and my ubuntu box has an ATI RAGE IIc
[04:59] <prego> alxwind: but is it ready?
[04:59] <alxwind> 2prego where?
[04:59] <bob2> alxwind: are your network settings correct?
[04:59] <nJess> so games cept freeciv are not happening
[04:59] <alxwind> yes it is
[04:59] <alxwind> i hope there are correct
[05:00] <alxwind> cuz i'm on the internet
[05:00] <prego> alxwind: at the system administration menu, network devices entry
[05:00] <KarlosII> sheesh tell us the bloody error and problem and maybe we can help
[05:00] <prego> alxwind: it shows a list of current devices and you can enable or disable each one. I prefer the ifup method, btw.
[05:01] <prego> nJess: are you reconfiguring the packages??
[05:01] <nJess> ye
[05:01] <nJess> s
[05:01] <prego> sweet
[05:01] <JDigital> Has anyone here who uses nvidia graphics drivers from the nvidia website, upgraded Warty to Hoary?
[05:01] <nJess> still gonna install kde though
[05:01] <nJess> thats the one gripe i have with ubuntu, i prefer KDE over gnome
[05:02] <HiddenWolf> njess, install kubuntu instead
[05:02] <prego> nJess: you have the kubuntu packages within hoary now :-))
[05:02] <nJess> really...
[05:02] <prego> HiddenWolf: he has not the CDs
[05:02] <JDigital> Anyone?
[05:02] <nJess> s/he/she
[05:02] <geneo93> nJess:  kubuntu works fine
[05:02] <prego> nJess: sorry
[05:02] <parabolize> JDigital, reinstall the nvidia driver ever time you update you linux kernel
[05:02] <JDigital> ok
[05:03] <nJess> yes, but i can't install kubuntu...
[05:03] <parabolize> *every
[05:03] <nJess> bad internet and all
[05:03] <JDigital> I would be worried about the system messing up and preventing me from getting the driver
[05:03] <nJess> prego, apt-get says i still need like...200megs of packages for kde still
[05:03] <prego> nJess: you have the kubuntu-desktop package that will download all the packages. Unfortunatelly I guess that might be more than 100Mb
[05:03] <JDigital> like if nvidia driver breaks I will have no graphics capability
[05:03] <prego> nJess: you are right
[05:03] <JDigital> thus cannot load up firefox
[05:03] <thoreauputic> nJess: how bad? i installed kubuntu-desktop on dilaup...
[05:03] <JDigital> thus cannot get the driver
[05:03] <JDigital> catch 22
[05:04] <bob2> sproingie: er, it appears to be 4.5
[05:04] <nJess> thoreauputic, every 100megs i download my connection goes into a 4 hour reset
[05:04] <sproingie> is there a way i can add an experimental or nonofficial repository to sources.list but NEVER install anything from it unless i say so explicitly?
[05:04] <parabolize> JDigital, use wget or links
[05:04] <bob2> sproingie: with a soname of 3
[05:04] <JDigital> ah
[05:04] <prego> thoreauputic: they kick her if downloads more than 100Mb in 4 hours :-((
[05:04] <prego> nJess: do try to download KDE in parts
[05:04] <thoreauputic> nJess: prego, that's cruela nd unnatural
[05:04] <geneo93> nJess:  i have 14400 connection and downloaded kubuntu and burned it
[05:04] <JDigital> what's the advantage of upgrading to hoary then
[05:04] <thoreauputic> nJess: get a better ISP...
[05:04] <prego> nJess: begin with qT libraries, then try with kde-libs, ....
[05:05] <nJess> i plan on it
[05:05] <sproingie> bob2: ah.  it still calls itself pcre3 as well.  there's the package version tho ... how strange
[05:05] <prego> nJess: sort of iterating process
[05:05] <JDigital> will it fix my problem that I can't get ssh to log into anywhere?
[05:05] <nJess> prego, apt-get will recover broken packages
[05:05] <parabolize> JDigital, dont know
[05:05] <JDigital> oh
[05:05] <nJess> so all i have to do is close the terminal when i want it to stop
[05:05] <bob2> sproingie: er, the package name is pcre3 because the soname is 3
[05:05] <nJess> and i can resume from where i left off
[05:05] <prego> nJess: of course, but you can install some packages < 100Mb...
[05:06] <thoreauputic> nJess: you can interrupt apt-get and it will pick up where it left off
[05:06] <prego> nJess: you will have to iterate with apt-get and the KDE-like packages
[05:06] <alxwind> 2prego and all: actually this method ain't work either
[05:06] <alxwind> i mean the gui at administration
[05:06] <prego> alxwind: why not?
[05:06] <thoreauputic> nJess: I just repeated the sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop command
[05:06] <sproingie> bob2: i guess they must change the pcre-specific api each soname revision.  wonder why they changed the major version.  thanks :)
[05:07] <prego> nJess: I guess that thoreauputic is right.
[05:07] <nJess> thoreauputic, i know
[05:07] <nJess> thats what i did for hoary
[05:07] <alxwind> well, i guess it's because at their properties it says that it's DHCP configured
[05:07] <sproingie> any tutorials on "advanced apt" out there, that cover stuff like pinning and priorities?
[05:07] <alxwind> but i connect to the internet through RP-PPPoe client
[05:07] <bob2> sproingie: man apt_preferences
[05:07] <thoreauputic> nJess: here, kubuntu-desktop required about 110 MB, from memory
[05:08] <bob2> that should explain what you want to do
[05:08] <sproingie> i want to add some experimental repos, but not actually use them unless i say so
[05:08] <nJess> you know whats a great irony?
[05:08] <sproingie> bob2: thanks
[05:08] <JDigital> okay, time to upgrade
[05:08] <prego> nJess: you have just recieved the CDs
[05:08] <nJess> i spent $300 usd on the sound system for my windows machine
[05:08] <JDigital> at worst I'll mess everything up and go back to using a pirate copy of windows 2000
[05:08] <docwario> hi all
[05:08] <alxwind> what should i do?
[05:09] <nJess> but my music sounds better comming out of a cheap soundblaster and two cheap speakers through xmms
[05:09] <nJess> :\
[05:09] <bretzel> Hi there
[05:09] <alxwind> spynet.ru?
[05:09] <GNULinuxer> how can I upgrade to Breezy from Hoary?
[05:09] <DaVe^_^> is it wise to update kernel to 2.6.10-7 using synaptic? or can this break my install
[05:09] <docwario> is there someone who can tell me where is the config file who load all the module at boot ? except the /etc/modules file
[05:09] <bob2> GNULinuxer: please don't
[05:09] <parabolize> GNULinuxer, dont
[05:09] <GNULinuxer> bob2, okay
[05:09] <bob2> docwario: that's the config file.  maybe hotplug is loading it
[05:09] <thoreauputic> GNULinuxer: read the /topic first at least
[05:09] <Voxel> yopyop
[05:10] <docwario> can it be the initrd ?
[05:10] <GNULinuxer> bob2, but just curious ... is it done by changing repos ?
[05:10] <bob2> GNULinuxer: it's done by reconfigure apt, yes
[05:10] <sproingie> ughchatzilla is aving problems
[05:11] <sproingie> droppikey
[05:11] <sproingie> dropping keypresses
[05:11] <sproingie> wow
[05:11] <Voxel> hello
[05:11] <nJess> i had a problem where chatzilla would send every keypress as its own line
[05:11] <sproingie> that had to piss the channel off
[05:11] <yccheok> hi, may i noe is there any microsoft equivalent exchange server in linux?
[05:12] <prego> alxwind: you have an ethernet adapter which is enabled via dhcp and then you connect to interrnet via pppoe?
[05:12] <sproingie> yccheok: novell groupwise
[05:12] <alxwind> yes, i do
[05:12] <trog_> anyone have any idea where i can get zlib-dev - cant find it on google or with apt-get etc..
[05:12] <bob2> yccheok: depends which bits you care about
[05:12] <bob2> trog_: zlib0g-dev
[05:12] <alxwind> and Firestarter says that eth0 is not ready
[05:12] <trog_> thx
[05:13] <sproingie> trog_: libzlib
[05:13] <bob2> (the 0g is because it hasn't changed in a bajillion years)
[05:13] <sproingie> oh, everything ELSE says libzlib, the lib itself ...
[05:13] <sproingie> there needs to be a mass cleanup of namings in apt
[05:13] <prego> alxwind: but you see eth0 at the output from ifconfig, don't you?
[05:14] <nJess> heh
[05:14] <nJess> today is just amazing
[05:14] <gizban> how do I change the date display method?  Right now it's dd/mm/YY, I want to make it YYYY-mm-dd.
[05:14] <bob2> sproingie: it's "naming's in apt", it's "Debian package names"
[05:14] <nJess> i got fired, and my computer broke
[05:14] <nJess> wonderful
[05:14] <bob2> and gratuituous renaming is highly disruptive
[05:14] <DaVe^_^> can someone tell me is it safe to update my kernel from 386 to 686 using synaptic/apt?
[05:14] <prego> gizban: just choose the right locale
[05:14] <bob2> docwario: yes
[05:14] <bob2> er, DaVe^_^
[05:15] <prego> DaVe^_^: you have a 686 cpu?
[05:15] <gizban> how do I choose the local? (after I've already installed)
[05:15] <sproingie> ok, me and chatzilla are through
[05:15] <DaVe^_^> i did uname -m and it said i686
[05:15] <sproingie> it used to work fine
[05:15] <bob2> sproingie: basically everything is libfooN, where N is the soname...zlib is an exception, since it hasn't changed sonames in like 10 years
[05:15] <prego> gizban: select it from GDM languaje options at log in
[05:15] <nJess> P4 and Athlon XP are i686
[05:15] <DaVe^_^> i got an amd64
[05:15] <nJess> P3 MIGHT be
[05:15] <gizban> prego: thanks
[05:15] <sproingie> bob2: i'm thinking of some packages named *-dev, others with *-devel
[05:16] <DaVe^_^> anyone have a clue?
[05:16] <prego> DaVe^_^: there is special ubuntu version for AMD64
[05:16] <bob2> sproingie: again, legacy.  I can't think of anything current named like that.
[05:16] <JDigital> so how do I upgrade without breaking things
[05:16] <JDigital> is there an "upgrade" guide
[05:17] <DaVe^_^> i dont want to use 64bit
[05:17] <DaVe^_^> too much software tweaking
[05:17] <prego> DaVe^_^: by the way, i've upgraded many times the kernel with synaptic and no problems arised (I had to reboot to use the new kernel, of course)
[05:17] <JDigital> Ubuntu is worthless if it is undocumented
[05:17] <JDigital> I am going to change everything in synaptic to say "hoary" instead of "warty"
[05:17] <DaVe^_^> did u upgrade a new version or diff cpu
[05:17] <thoreauputic> JDigital: stick with ubuntu repositories, and upgrade using the package manager
[05:18] <JDigital> then upgrade all
[05:18] <JDigital> with smart upgrade
[05:18] <bob2> JDigital: no, it's not "worthless", don't be silly
[05:18] <JDigital> and hope it works
[05:18] <bob2> JDigital: wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes
[05:18] <prego> JDigital: there is specific documentation at the ubuntu web site for upgrading
[05:18] <JDigital> prego: link pls
[05:18] <tweek> hello
[05:18] <prego> JDigital: see bob2 comment ;-)
[05:19] <tweek> i get rsa and dsa host key errors when trying to start sshd, am i doing anything wrong? :|
[05:19] <DaVe^_^> alrite im going to reboot
[05:19] <bob2> tweek: you installed it from the packages, right?
[05:19] <DaVe^_^> see if my system dies
[05:19] <DaVe^_^> brb
[05:19] <JDigital> does it need a lot of free space or anything
[05:19] <yourghetek> !seen kassetra
[05:19] <thoreauputic> tweek: probably
[05:19] <ubotu> kassetra <~kassetra@c-67-171-201-213.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 2d 9h 42m 44s ago, saying: 'ds installs just fine, and both are runnign.'.
[05:19] <tweek> yes bob2
[05:19] <JDigital> I only have 600MB free on root
[05:19] <tahorg> JDigital: sudo apt-get clean
[05:19] <prego> JDigital: not enough I would say
[05:19] <tahorg> ;)
[05:19] <JDigital> still only 600
[05:20] <bob2> JDigital: probably not enough, then, unless you get temporary packages put elsewhere
[05:20] <JDigital> :/
[05:20] <bob2> tweek: I don't know how you could get that error, then
[05:20] <thoreauputic> JDigital: if you run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it will tell you how much space it needs
[05:20] <tweek> :\
[05:20] <prego> JDigital: you need to download about 600Mb and install afterwards, so I guess it is not enough.
[05:20] <sproingie> i'm such a dunce
[05:20] <bob2> tweek: try "sudo dpkg -P --force-depends openssh-server ; sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[05:20] <sproingie> it wasn't chatzilla
[05:20] <sproingie> it was the batteries in my wireless keyboard
[05:21] <unbuntuN00b> how do I mount my hd's in ubutnu?
[05:21] <JDigital> Need to get 620MB of archives.
[05:21] <JDigital> After unpacking 263MB of additional disk space will be used.
[05:21] <prego> sproingie: 8-?
[05:21] <prego> sproingie: I hate that wireless keyboards and mice...
[05:21] <thoreauputic> JDigital: not enough space to cache 620MB, I guess
[05:21] <sproingie> prego: i was starting to think there was a global problem with X or KDE or something.  damn wireless keyboard
[05:21] <nJess> i have wireless everything.....
[05:21] <tweek> bob2 i'm on an older version of ubuntu if that makes any difference :|
[05:22] <sproingie> prego: well the keyboard hates batteries, i change 'em maybe twice a year.  the mouse eats 'em as light snacks
[05:22] <bob2> tweek: no, ssh still works there
[05:22] <nJess> nah
[05:22] <nJess> AMD has dual core
[05:22] <nJess> no need to hyperthreading
[05:22] <tweek> well, those packages arn't in the repositories
[05:22] <prego> sproingie: you are right
[05:22] <bob2> tweek: then "sudo dpkg -P ssh ; sudo apt-get install ssh"
[05:22] <sproingie> probably because the mouse has to transmit a lot more
[05:22] <prego> sproingie: then you realize when the mouse has no batteries but you don't remeber that for keyboard :-P
[05:22] <nJess> the mouse runs a laser yes?
[05:23] <unbuntuN00b> can some one please help?:D how do i mount drives in ubuntu?
[05:23] <sproingie> naw, it's an older mouse.  LED
[05:23] <sproingie> the laser mice probably eat a pair of batteries a day
[05:23] <bob2> unbuntuN00b: www.ubuntuguide.org explains how
[05:23] <JDigital> I moved some stuff and now have 921mb
[05:23] <JDigital> should be enough
[05:23] <prego> sproingie: I would loose the mouse if it was wireless by the way.
[05:23] <unbuntuN00b> k thx
[05:23] <tweek> alright bob2 same error
[05:24] <nJess> Mx700 for the win
[05:24] <bob2> tweek: paste the full error to #flood
[05:24] <prego> sproingie: then it woud happen to appear when the pants were to be thrown to the washer machine
[05:24] <tweek> ok
[05:24] <bob2> tweek: and your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:24] <sproingie> prego: my desk has a dedicated pad for the mouse.  otherwise i would probably lose it too
[05:24] <nJess> i have a rechargable wireless
[05:24] <nJess> its usually on the cradle
[05:25] <nJess> i hate wireless networking
[05:25] <prego> nJess: and the mouse battery has no "memory"?
[05:25] <nJess> i can't find my laptop
[05:25] <nJess> :\
[05:25] <JDigital> installing
[05:25] <tweek> ok bob2
[05:25] <prego> JDigital: good luck
[05:25] <nJess> prego, i got the mouse my freshman year in highschool
[05:25] <sproingie> oh well, long as konversation doesn't keep krashing this time
[05:25] <nJess> and the original battery still holds charge
[05:25] <bob2> tweek: run "sudo dpkg -P ssh ; sudo apt-get install ssh", and paste the entire output to #flood
[05:25] <JDigital> here's hoping it won't screw up and leave me unable to run in anything but 60Hz
[05:26] <thoreauputic> bob2: he doesn't appear to have main in his sources ?
[05:26] <thoreauputic> only security?
[05:26] <tweek> bob2 it doesn't error
[05:26] <bob2> thoreauputic: which suggests to me that he/she's not actually removing and reinstalling it
[05:27] <prego> JDigital: nah! I even interrumped the upgrade and the system works rock solid. Don't do it anyway
[05:27] <bob2> tweek: please just paste it
[05:27] <JDigital> don't do what anyway
[05:27] <nJess> hey
[05:27] <nJess> how do i format a drive?
[05:27] <prego> JDigital: to stop the upgrade process at a random time.
[05:28] <JDigital> heh, that's common sense
[05:28] <nJess> /dev/hdb is ntfs
[05:28] <JDigital> stopping things mid-way is often a good way to break things
[05:28] <nJess> i want to format it ext3
[05:28] <bob2> nJess: sudo mkfs -t ext3 /dev/blah
[05:28] <prego> JDigital: i was upgrading remotely (X11 session that hunged because OpenGL+Nvidia+switch X11 session)....
[05:28] <bob2> nJess: make very very very very sure you pick the right value for blah
[05:28] <JDigital> :/
[05:29] <prego> nJess: you want to format a ntfs filesystem from ubuntu?
[05:29] <sproingie> i usually use a pointy clicky tool to format partitions
[05:29] <sproingie> because i've typed it wrong before
[05:29] <nJess> nah, i want to turn an ntfs drive into an ext3 drive
[05:29] <nJess> but i got it
[05:29] <sproingie> at least you can't reformat a mounted partition
[05:30] <nJess> bob2, how do i set it to automount then?
[05:30] <prego> nJess: probably you shoud also change the partition type, I don't really know if that is necessary
[05:30] <bob2> nJess: then you add it to /etc/fstab
[05:30] <sproingie> parted should handle formatting too
[05:30] <tweek> any ideas bob2?
[05:31] <prego> sproingie: I did even worse once, I transfered with dd a ramdisk (1.4) into my entire hard drive instead to my floppy drive... so I lost partition table, .....
[05:31] <nJess> how do you unmount a drive?
[05:31] <prego> nJess: which kind of drive?
[05:31] <bob2> nJess: sudo umount /path/to/mountpoint/
[05:32] <bob2> tweek: I can't imagine how you could get that error
[05:32] <prego> oh wait sorry...
[05:32] <bob2> tweek: and it doesn't seem to be being printed there
[05:32] <nJess> okay
[05:32] <nJess> somehow i really screwed up
[05:32] <nJess> i managed to mount two drives to /
[05:32] <sproingie> prego: i can do one better as stupid mistakes go.  i wanted to play with a uClibc gentoo distro in a chroot on this system ... so i untarred the gentoo stage1 tarball ... but forgot to chdir to the chroot
[05:33] <bob2> nJess: that's fine
[05:33] <sproingie> prego: guess what dir i untarred it in
[05:33] <thoreauputic> tweek: your apt sources are clearly incomplete, anyway (don't know how you ended up with such a file)
[05:33] <tweek> :\
[05:33] <bob2> nJess: umount the most recently mounted one
[05:33] <prego> sproingie: "/"?
[05:33] <nJess> i can't
[05:33] <bob2> tweek: what command do you have to run to get the rsa error?
[05:33] <tweek> "sshd"
[05:33] <sproingie> prego: needless to say this is a reinstalled ubuntu i'm running
[05:33] <bob2> tweek: so, don't do that
[05:33] <bob2> tweek: ssh is running already
[05:33] <Seveas> tweakism_, you should not run sshd manually...
[05:33] <bob2> sproingie: if you want to stop it, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd stop
[05:33] <bob2> tweek: if you want to stop it, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd stop
[05:33] <Seveas> tweek*
[05:33] <prego> sproingie: you had a gentubuntu at that moment
[05:34] <bob2> sproingie: not you, sorry
[05:34] <bob2> tweek: to start it, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
[05:34] <tweek> but my friend is going to help me via sshd
[05:34] <tweek> thanks bob2
[05:34] <trygvebw> Hi
[05:34] <trygvebw> Is there anyway to install a package with apt-get even though another package not involved has unresolved dependencies?
[05:34] <morpheus> Hello everybody
[05:34] <sproingie> prego: heehee :)
[05:34] <thoreauputic> tweek: also, the ssh daemon is invoked with sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start etc (not sshd as user)
[05:34] <bob2> tweek: but you don't need to start it, ti's already running
[05:34] <bob2> tweek: no
[05:34] <bob2> bah
[05:34] <bob2> trygvebw: no
[05:35] <thoreauputic> bob2: I think  sudo /etc/init.d/ssh is right rather than sshd?
[05:35] <tweek> sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start <--- this is why i was using "sshd"
[05:35] <morpheus> how can i start my X server automtically when i start my computer???
[05:35] <trygvebw> bob2: are you sure? :/ because i installed initng and it works fine but apt-get says a lot of stuff about wrong libc6 version installed :(
[05:35] <alxwind> 2prego: sorry i was out for a moment
[05:35] <Seveas> morpheus, it should already do that
[05:35] <bob2> thoreauputic: er, right, my mistake
[05:35] <Seveas> morpheus, if not, you have changed something :)
[05:35] <alxwind>  2but you see eth0 at the output from ifconfig, don't you? - i don't know
[05:35] <morpheus> normally Seveas
[05:35] <morpheus> but...
[05:35] <bob2> tweek: as thoreauputic says, it's ssh, not sshd there
[05:35] <bob2> trygvebw: so, "don't do that"
[05:35] <morpheus> On debian net install Seveas
[05:35] <morpheus> how?
[05:36] <prego> tweek: don't use sshd directly, use the init script
[05:36] <bob2> trygvebw: the package may happen to work, mostly, but it really Depends on stuff for a reason
[05:36] <thoreauputic> tweek: but as bob2 also says, you don't need to invoke the daemon bscause it runs anyway
[05:36] <bob2> morpheus: #debian
[05:36] <Seveas> morpheus, update-rc.d gdm defaults
[05:36] <tweek> ok
[05:36] <bob2> morpheus: (hint: install the gdm package)
[05:36] <Seveas> or otherwise: #debian
[05:36] <trygvebw> bob2: Well... The problem is, that it's a package for Debian. I've used it for many days and it works complely fine. The Ubuntu libc is compitable...
[05:36] <bob2> trygvebw: no, it's not, sorry
[05:36] <sproingie> compatible MOSTLY
[05:36] <bob2> trygvebw: if you want that package on ubuntu, rebuild it from source
[05:37] <trygvebw> well, mostly is all i need :)
[05:37] <sproingie> you just discovered it ain't 100%
[05:37] <bob2> it Depends on a more recent libc6 because it was built against a more recent one
[05:37] <bob2> and mgiht use more recent symbols, eyc
[05:37] <trygvebw> well i say it works fine... so it's as compitable as i need it to be
[05:37] <sproingie> linux binaries ain't totally portable if they're dynamically linked
[05:37] <sproingie> hell thanks to glibc, sometimes even static isn't totally static
[05:37] <sproingie> libnss is dynamic ONLY
[05:38] <trog_> im going nuts (too late), cant find jpeglib, any suggestions besides ST*W? google is unproductive...
[05:38] <bob2> trygvebw: so, if you want it to work, you'll need to rebuild it from source
[05:38] <talamod> yo :) has anyone had experience with Ubuntu + AGNULA?
[05:38] <bob2> trygvebw: libjpeg62-dev
[05:38] <thoreauputic> trog_: try apt-cache search libjpeg
[05:38] <morpheus> thanks bob2 and Seveas
[05:38] <trog_> kk thx
[05:38] <bob2> trog_: libjpeg62-dev
[05:38] <bob2> trog_: what are you compiling?
[05:39] <trog_> xawtv - for video broadcasting - linux toys book =] 
[05:39] <bob2> xawtv is in ubuntu already
[05:39] <thoreauputic> trog_: it's in universe
[05:40] <guy> I'm still kinda new, I can't install the fglrx drivers for my atiradeon 9000. I've followed every forum I could find, and have had to reload os twice. Can anyone help me?
[05:40] <thoreauputic> !repositories
[05:40] <ubotu> well, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:40] <trog_> i dont see it already installed ?  *shrug*
[05:40] <thoreauputic> trog_: see above
[05:40] <bob2> guy: er, are you sure firegl even works on a radeon 90000?
[05:40] <bob2> er, 9000.
[05:40] <trog_> i added all the repos i could
[05:40] <bob2> I'm 99% sure it doesn't
[05:40] <thoreauputic> trog_: then you made a mistake
[05:40] <prego> guys, it has been a funny talk. See you soon.
[05:40] <bob2> trog_: telling apt about repositories doesn't make it install things from there
[05:41] <anto9us> how do I mount /media/sda1 and give write access to non-root users?
[05:41] <trygvebw> bob2: fglrx works fine with 9000
[05:41] <thoreauputic> trog_: apt-cache show xawtv shows up fine here
[05:41] <trog_> o
[05:41] <trygvebw> i'm not sure if you need a hack though
[05:41] <trog_> ok thx ill look now
[05:41] <bob2> my 9200 had Free accelerated 3d drivers
[05:41] <sproingie> i'd be surprised if 3d accel worked with fglrx on the 9000
[05:41] <sproingie> considering it's not even the firegl core
[05:41] <bob2> me too
[05:42] <trygvebw> firegl..?
[05:42] <sproingie> ATI bought firegl and rebadged it as the R300
[05:42] <bob2> fglrx = firegl
[05:42] <trygvebw> oo
[05:42] <bob2> aiui
[05:42] <guy> Well that explains my problem. Thanks for the help.
[05:42] <sproingie> they still sell a firegl card, but they're based on the same core now
[05:42] <yahalom> how do i delete the contents of a dir?
[05:42] <trygvebw> hmm
[05:43] <sproingie> shame really.  always thought ati had the superior tech, but the drivers just ain't that hot
[05:43] <bob2> yahalom: rm /dir/*
[05:43] <`psycho> hi ppl
[05:43] <`psycho> what does memtest86+ actually do?
[05:43] <bob2> I was pretty impressed by the 9200 drivers
[05:43] <talamod> can anyone tell me if it's a REALLY bad idea to add apt sources that are intended for debian unstable into Ubuntu? I've added the agnula packages...
[05:43] <sproingie> still, blender screams like a demon.  it's at least twice as fast on linux than win, so their drivers *are* improving
[05:43] <`psycho> does it test the memory n all?
[05:43] <rob^> talamod, yeah
[05:43] <bob2> `psycho: it hammers the hell out of your memory to try to find broken bits
[05:43] <trygvebw> talamod: If you only install a few packages without forcing it should go ok
[05:43] <trog_> away
[05:43] <talamod> rob^, well that's a shame, perhaps I'll have to do a reinstall soon :)
[05:44] <bob2> talamod: it's a bad idea to do it if you don't watch what apt does very carefully
[05:44] <sproingie> could be the 64-bitness as well, more registers used or something
[05:44] <talamod> rob^, trygvebw, I needed Ardour. agnula also upgraded/changed libc6... so there could be some _really_ bad things happening soon :)
[05:44] <yahalom> bob2, it wont work, because there is another dir in there. i want to delete everything in one dir without delete the sub dir.
[05:44] <[koji] > can anyone recommend a dvd verifier utility?
[05:44] <trygvebw> talamod: oh
[05:44] <`psycho> sp if my memory is faulty (as in hardware..) i can find it out like that?
[05:44] <trygvebw> yeah
[05:44] <morpheus> hi!
[05:44] <`psycho> *so
[05:44] <sproingie> but i can rotate and zoom with a whole extra level of subsurfs in blender on linux than on win
[05:44] <bob2> yahalom: then the command I gave you will work fine
[05:44] <morpheus> how can we do to use a microsoft wireless bluetooth mouse on ubuntu??
[05:44] <bob2> `psycho: yes
[05:44] <thoreauputic> talamod: ardour is in ubuntu
[05:44] <sproingie> and this with the ATI drivers
[05:44] <yahalom> bob2, it didnt
[05:44] <talamod> thoreauputic, it is? d'oh!
[05:44] <`psycho> bob2: thx
[05:45] <trygvebw> talamod: most Debian packages are
[05:45] <bob2> yahalom: "didnt"? it will delete all the files in the dir, and leave the subdir alone.
[05:45] <yahalom> bob2, ah ur right. sry
[05:45] <rob^> so tired.. time for sleep. night all
[05:45] <morpheus> ????
[05:46] <thoreauputic> talamod: ardour-gtk - digital audio workstation (graphical gtk interface)
[05:46] <talamod> thoreauputic, ah, hm. so... is there a smart way to undo the packages installed from agnula?
[05:46] <talamod> I've uncommented their apt source entry, but it installed quite a few things.
[05:47] <talamod> like a dist-upgrade or something to make it reinstall the Ubuntu specific ones?
[05:47] <kestas> is there any way to get sound in esd when its only supposed to play to alsa/oss?
[05:47] <thoreauputic> talamod: you can try `sudo apt-get -f install `
[05:47] <talamod> talamod, does nothing... not even for libc6
[05:47] <thoreauputic> talamod: assuming you've fic=xed your sources...
[05:47] <bob2> kestas: esddsp
[05:48] <milky> i need help giving read permission to mounted ntfs partition:root@car:/home/tinc # chmod a+r /mnt/win
[05:48] <milky> chmod: changing permissions of `/mnt/win': Read-only file system
[05:48] <kestas> bob2: Im not getting any hits in synaptic for esddsp
[05:48] <thoreauputic> talamod: purrge the offending packages and start again
[05:48] <bob2> kestas: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:48] <bob2> (esound-common, iirc)
[05:48] <phend> hi all, this is a bit ot. but i'm moving my blog from word press to nucleus. is it possible to import the old entries?
[05:48] <bob2> milky: that won't help, you can't set permissions on a vfat filesystem
[05:49] <milky> why
[05:49] <bob2> milky: use the umask=002 mount option in /etc/fstab
[05:49] <thoreauputic> talamod: don't purge libc6 obviously...
[05:49] <talamod> thoreauputic, dpkg --purge for the other packages, but how to re-install Ubuntu's libc6?
[05:50] <thoreauputic> talamod: that I don't know - maybe bob2 will
[05:50] <anto9us> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o rw - doesn't give me write permissions, any ideas?
[05:50] <talamod> hm. getting dependency problems already. adding agnula was a big mistake :S
[05:50] <thoreauputic> talamod: changing libc6 is kind of... non-trivial I would think
[05:50] <kestas> bob2: esound-common is already installe
[05:50] <kestas> d
[05:50] <kestas> but I dont have esddsp
[05:50] <bob2> sudo apt-get install libc6=2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13
[05:51] <bob2> kestas: look it up on packages.ubuntu.com, I guess
[05:51] <talamod> bob2, excellent!" thanks man
[05:51] <kestas> bob2: esddsp doesnt come up in packages.ubuntu.com either
[05:52] <swarm> I'm having a problem at boot ("Cannot access Hardware Clock with any know method") over Ubuntu Hoary (Kernel 2.6.11-1-amd64-k8-smp). I have seen there is a bug report on Ubuntu's bugzilla (https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1659 [Created 2004-10-17 20:21 UTC] ) but it's still with status NEW.
[05:52] <bob2> kestas: bah, yes it does
[05:52] <bob2> kestas: esound-clients
[05:52] <kestas> ah esound-clients
[05:52] <nJess> swarn, i have the same problem with amd64 ubuntu on my laptop
[05:52] <thoreauputic> swarm: 2.6.11 is bad news...
[05:52] <nJess> swam*
[05:52] <swarm> swarm
[05:53] <bionic> Can anyone please help me with compiling a module for lufs?
[05:53] <nJess> heh
[05:53] <nJess> i suck
[05:53] <swarm> thoreauputic, it's the same with 2.6.10-5
[05:53] <thoreauputic> nJess: swa <tab> ;)
[05:53] <kestas> I dont think package updating is working
[05:53] <kestas> this is the firefox version I have: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050512 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2)
[05:53] <bob2> bionic: read the lufs-source packages README.Debian
[05:53] <kestas> is that the same as everyone else?
[05:53] <nJess> yeah thoreauputic i know
[05:53] <bob2> kestas: yes
[05:53] <yahalom> where is my .xsession located?
[05:53] <bob2> kestas: hoary doesn't get random new pieces software
[05:53] <thoreauputic> nJess: OK :)
[05:54] <bob2> even if they are "OMG A NEW MINOR VERSION OF A WEB BROWSER"
[05:54] <klaas_> Hello there.
[05:54] <kestas> bob2: yes but there have been security problems since the last time it updated firefox
[05:54] <kestas> bob2: and dont act so condescending
[05:54] <bob2> kestas: yes, and hoary has those fixes
[05:54] <klaas_> Does anyone have any experience with tv-tuners?
[05:54] <thoreauputic> yahalom: in your home/yahalom dir - but you have to make one ;)
[05:54] <bob2> kestas: they get backported to the version hoary released with
[05:55] <yahalom> thoreauputic, thanx :)
[05:55] <thoreauputic> yahalom: why do you need one?
[05:55] <kestas> bob2: then why hasnt my version of firefox updated for months?
[05:55] <bob2> kestas: I don't know, mine has
[05:55] <swarm> Why such a common bug is yet in status NEW?
[05:55] <kestas> bob2: could you just paste your version info from About Firefox just to ease my mind?
[05:55] <thoreauputic> yahalom: are you installing some odd widow manager? *g*
[05:55] <thoreauputic> *window
[05:55] <bob2> swarm: because no one has looked at it yet?
[05:55] <swarm> it's assigned to lamont.jones
[05:55] <bob2> swarm: if it's a duplicate, it may be ignored while people do useful work
[05:55] <yahalom> thoreauputic, wmii. know it?
[05:56] <swarm> bob2,  ok I check for similar bugs if any
[05:56] <thoreauputic> yahalom: never heard of it ! :D
[05:56] <klaas_> Anyone?
[05:56] <bob2> kestas: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050512 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2)
[05:56] <kestas> can someone please copy the info from Help>About Mozilla Firefox?
[05:56] <kestas> hmm okay thanks bob2
[05:56] <thoreauputic> yahalom: so yeah, you need to write a ~/.xsession ;)
[05:56] <yahalom> thoreauputic, its like a combo of ion and stuff. http://wmi.modprobe.de/
[05:56] <yahalom> thoreauputic, thanx man
[05:56] <thoreauputic> yahalom: OK thanks
[05:57] <nJess> whats the bash command for reboot?
[05:57] <klaas_> reboot
[05:57] <nJess> im
[05:57] <nJess> an idiot
[05:57] <Heart|> shutdown -r now ?!
[05:57] <thoreauputic> nJess: sudo reboot funnily enough
[05:57] <klaas_> nJess, nope just new i quess?
[05:57] <thoreauputic> or shutdown -r now, yeah
[05:58] <klaas_> thoreauputic: That's right, ubuntu uses sudo..
[05:58] <klaas_> thoreauputic: Sorry.
[05:58] <bob2> kestas: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2005-May/thread.html
[05:58] <klaas_> thoreauputic: Do you have experience with tv-tuner cards?
[05:58] <yahalom> thoreauputic, does this make sense for a .xsession entry. exec /usr/local/bin/wmii ?
[05:59] <thoreauputic> klaas_: no, sorry
[05:59] <thoreauputic> yahalom: yes
[05:59] <yahalom> thoreauputic, seems enough?
[05:59] <thoreauputic> yahalom: although you don't really need the exec
[05:59] <thoreauputic> yahalom: assuming the path is right, it should work
[05:59] <yahalom> thoreauputic, thanx man
[06:00] <Nightcr8wl3r> are any of the creators/developers for Ubuntu around
[06:00] <anatole> is there a program like daemon tools for linux?
[06:00] <tims> can anyone tell me "learn-how-to-use-the keyboard" application?
[06:01] <Nightcr8wl3r> if so, just like to say that "ALL YOU GUYS ROCK"!!!
[06:01] <thoreauputic> Nightcr8wl3r: nah, they ran away when they saw you join ;)
[06:01] <bob2> anatole: which does...
[06:01] <Nightcr8wl3r> lol..very funny thoreauputic
[06:01] <tims> im searching a programm to get someone else used to the keyboard layout..
[06:01] <anatole> bob2: mounts a cd image
[06:01] <klaas_> bob2: If i'm correct.. mount iso images..
[06:01] <thoreauputic> Nightcr8wl3r: well, sorry - couldn't resist ;-)
[06:01] <bob2> anatole: the kernel can do that itself
[06:02] <anatole> really? :)
[06:02] <Nightcr8wl3r> quite alright...
[06:02] <bob2> klaas_: "daemon tools" is also djb's service running framework thing
[06:02] <klaas_> anatole: sudo mount -t iso8996 /path/to/image.iso /path/to/mountpoint
[06:02] <Nightcr8wl3r> ;-)
[06:02] <VRH> when i do right click in the desktop, and the menu appear, how i can do to add specific new document in create new document?
[06:02] <bob2> klaas_: don't forget the -o loop
[06:02] <anatole> thank you klaas_
[06:02] <[R] > hello, i'm trying to install icewm or xfce via apt-get, but i get errors (broken packages, unmet dependencies, imlib1 libpng10-0). Can anybody help me ? :)
[06:02] <klaas_> bob2: Yup, sorry
[06:03] <klaas_> bob2: Any experience with tv-tuner cards?
[06:03] <thoreauputic> [R] : your sources are probably incomplete
[06:03] <bob2> klaas_: no, sorry
[06:03] <thoreauputic> [R] : and you probably really would prefer xfce4
[06:03] <thoreauputic> !repositories
[06:03] <ubotu> I guess repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:03] <klaas_> bob2: Sorry, I'm desperate.. I want to buy a card, but hey I need to know if the chipset is supported..
[06:03] <thoreauputic> [R] : read the URL the bot just spat out
[06:03] <bob2> klaas_: bt878 works fine
[06:04] <VRH> when i do right click in the desktop, and the menu appear, how i can do to add specific new document in create new document?
[06:04] <klaas_> bob2: I figured that out, but then I saw something about the tuner being a philips chip.
[06:04] <[R] > thoreauputic, thanx for your answer. The sources are the default ones, i just unquote the universes.
[06:04] <bob2> klaas_: just buy one that you can return
[06:05] <thoreauputic> [R] : that should be enough- did you reload - update etc ?
[06:05] <klaas_> bob2: Check this: http://www4.alternate.nl/html/nodes_info/jkpi48.html
[06:05] <klaas_> bob2: It's dutch but the specs for chips are readable i quess.
[06:05] <[R] > thoreauputic, yes i did twice ;-(
[06:05] <mirkash> how to make intel 537 modem work in ubuntu warty
[06:05] <[R] > i followed the miniRAM How-to
[06:05] <klaas_> bob2: At the code section.
[06:06] <nJess> xmms locks up when i try to use it
[06:06] <nJess> what are my options?
[06:06] <thoreauputic> [R] : hmm - should work: I think both xfce4 and icewm are in Universe
[06:06] <klaas_> nJess: run it in a terminal, so you can get some output..
[06:06] <bob2> nJess: presumably it's not configured properly
[06:06] <forsaker8k6> hi everybody
[06:07] <klaas_> nJess: We can probably do something with that.
[06:07] <anto9us> 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o rw' doesn't give me write permission, how do I enable it?
[06:07] <nJess> bob2, it used to work before i updated to hoary
[06:07] <nJess> and it is locked
[06:07] <forsaker8k6> got a question: how to change my display manager, wich is gdm, to entrance?
[06:07] <klaas_> anto9us: what filesystem
[06:07] <nJess> and i have no terminal output
[06:07] <thoreauputic> nJess: have ou tried setting esound as output plugin?
[06:07] <thoreauputic> *you
[06:07] <tims> can someone help me.. im searching an "dictionary app" for gnome
[06:07] <anto9us> klaas_: vfat but the -t vfat option makes no difference
[06:07] <tims> which uses an offline database
[06:08] <kestas> bob2: the reason Im worried is that I found this in my web log:   	 Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050524 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2 MFSA2005-44)
[06:08] <nJess> thanks thoreauputic
[06:08] <klaas_> anto9us: add, uid={youruser} to your -o param.
[06:08] <kestas> notice the MFSA2005-44
[06:08] <hardcampa-> tims what's wrong with gnome-dictionary
[06:08] <thoreauputic> nJess: works?
[06:08] <kestas> SA for security advisory?
[06:08] <nJess> yup
[06:08] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:08] <tims> hardcampa-, is it installed by default?
[06:08] <kestas> this is mine: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050512 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2)
[06:08] <kestas> and apparently yours too
[06:09] <kestas> no MFSA :s
[06:09] <hardcampa-> tims dunno if it is on Ubuntu
[06:09] <hardcampa-> just try it
[06:09] <kestas> you didnt just copy my version and paste it did you?
[06:10] <thoreauputic> hardcampa-: try resetting the URL to test.dict.org
[06:10] <anto9us> klaas_: the params are comma seperated right? it doesn't seem to like more than one
[06:10] <thoreauputic> hardcampa-: they have changed it at dict
[06:10] <thoreauputic> dict.org
[06:10] <nJess> how do i mount /dev/hdb1 ??
[06:10] <hardcampa-> ? I'm not the one asking
[06:10] <thoreauputic> hardcampa-: I have it aliased to the test URl and it works
[06:10] <tims> so its only called dict now
[06:11] <klaas_> anto9us: yes.
[06:11] <VRH> when i do right click in the desktop, and the menu appear, how i can do to add specific new document in create new document?
[06:11] <kestas> can someone with an up to date version of firefox on ubuntu hoary please paste their Help>About Mozilla Firefox info?
[06:11] <thoreauputic> hardcampa- tims what's wrong with gnome-dictionary << sorry I misread this
[06:12] <thoreauputic> tims: did you see what I posted above?
[06:12] <bob2> kestas: why does that worry you?
[06:12] <bionic> bob2, theres no such file README.Debian for it, i run /usr/share/lufs/prepmode, but it fails to prepare the lufs.ko module for my Linux kernel 2.6.10-5-386. and it puts out, Detected Linux kernel sources "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build" do not appear to be valid and Please install kernel-source-x.y.z.i386.rpm or kernel-headers_x.y.z_i386.deb.. But I have both them installed in /usr/src. Can you please help? Been trying to figure out this for a
[06:12] <bionic> week now :\
[06:12] <thoreauputic> tims: " try resetting the URL to test.dict.org
[06:12] <bob2> bionic: ask on the user list
[06:13] <anto9us> klaas_: 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o rw, uid=anthony' wasn't accepted but ' sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -w -o uid=anthony' was. Still no joy though
[06:13] <Praisem247> any1 know how to clear the history in the xterm
[06:13] <bionic> bob2, user list where?
[06:13] <bob2> bionic: http://lists.ubuntu.com/
[06:13] <kestas> bob2: well some visitor do my website has a security advisory number appended to his ubuntu number as if, perhaps, he had the security fix for the advisory number
[06:14] <bionic> okay thanks
[06:14] <kent> Praisem247   delete .bash_history in your homedir?
[06:14] <Praisem247> k
[06:14] <bob2> kestas: perhaps that's an old one
[06:14] <Praisem247> are there other history files
[06:15] <klaas_> anto9us: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o rw,uid={youruser},fmask=137,dmask=027
[06:15] <kent> Praisem247  .bash_history is the history-file of of the commands you have run from terminals.
[06:15] <Praisem247> ok thanks
[06:16] <kestas> bob2: Visitor: Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050524 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2 MFSA2005-44) ||| Mine: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050512 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2)
[06:16] <kestas> notice anything about the Gecko version number?
[06:16] <anto9us> klaas_: still get permission denied
[06:16] <bob2> kestas: ok
[06:16] <bob2> kestas: read the url I posted and find out if there's an issue, I guess
[06:17] <kestas> an issue? I just want to know if I have all the security fixes I should have, and it looks like I dont
[06:17] <klaas_> anto9us: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/usbmem -o 'rw,uid=khagen,fmask=137,dmask=027' works for me..
[06:17] <kestas> but I dont know how to tell
[06:18] <anto9us> klaas_: hmm.. I'll recheck things, I've done something wrong somewhere, thanks for the help :)
[06:18] <thoreauputic> kestas: I have the latest I think, and it's Gecko/20050524
[06:18] <kestas> if youve got an up to date system and have the same version as me, then how does one of my visitors have an apparently more recent version?
[06:18] <kestas> thoreauputic: thank you
[06:18] <klaas_> anto9us: good luck.
[06:18] <bob2> kestas: yes, I told you how to tell
[06:19] <kestas> looks like there is something wrong with my system bob2, lucky I persevered or I wouldnt have known for much longer
[06:19] <Praisem247> how can I search for the file kent
[06:19] <bob2> kestas: the url I gave you is the security-announce list archive; find the most recent firefox announcement and see if you have that version
[06:19] <Praisem247> kent: loc of .bash-history
[06:19] <Praisem247> kent: search?
[06:19] <Codeman7> I am having a problem. Maybe every minute or so, my X screen just locks up for a second. if I'm typing, it pauses for a solid second, and then resumes. Everything on the screen just stops for a second.
[06:19] <Praisem247> nm
[06:19] <kestas> bob2: you also told me your version was the same as mine when it isnt.. is going into firefox>Help>About Mozilla Firefox *so* hard?
[06:20] <kestas> okay now Ive got to figure out why my system isnt updating
[06:20] <bob2> kestas: wtf
[06:20] <kent> Praisem247  it should be in your home.   Open up a terminal do "cat .bash_history"  (if the file exists..)
[06:20] <bob2> kestas: I pasted what it said
[06:20] <bob2> please don't accuse me of lying
[06:20] <kestas> bob2| "kestas: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050512 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2)"
[06:20] <nJess> there is a bug where ubuntu doesn't update the version numbers of firefox
[06:20] <nJess> so you can't update
[06:20] <nJess> but uh
[06:20] <bob2> kestas: yes, that's what my firefox said
[06:21] <kestas> so thats your version?? how can you, me and thoreauputic have different versions?!
[06:21] <nJess> it really is 1.0.4
[06:21] <Praisem247> ls
[06:21] <kent> Praisem247 you can try to just open your Home-folder with the filebrowser and select to view hidden files (i think by right-clicking on the folder.. but im unsure, sitting in windows right now)
[06:21] <bob2> kestas: easily
[06:21] <bob2> kestas: presumably two of us are not up to date with security.ubuntu.com
[06:21] <nJess> bob2
[06:21] <bob2> kestas: why don't you just go and read the page I pointed you at and find out the latest version?
[06:21] <kestas> I should be, I refreshed just now
[06:21] <nJess> ubuntu doesn't update the firefox version number
[06:21] <bob2> nJess: no, it is realy 1.0.2
[06:21] <kestas> I refresh every other day
[06:21] <kent> Praisem247 if you do "ls" in the home, the file wont show since it starts with an "." and there for is hidden. "ls -al" will show the hidden files aswell
[06:21] <thoreauputic> nJess: the work around for themes and extensions is to use the about:config and search for vendor string, change to 1.0.4
[06:21] <nJess> oh
[06:21] <nJess> alright
[06:21] <|Lupin|> Hello everybody.
[06:22] <Praisem247> k
[06:22] <nJess> thoreauputic, thats where i was comming from
[06:22] <Praisem247> how do u DEL in xterm
[06:22] <nJess> ;)
[06:22] <Codeman7> I am having a problem. Maybe every minute or so, my X screen just locks up for a second. if I'm typing, it pauses for a solid second, and then resumes. Everything on the screen just stops for a second.
[06:22] <|Lupin|> We have a problem with the mozilla-thunderbird package, namely a segmentation fault in run-mozilla.sh:159.
[06:22] <|Lupin|> Isthis a known problem, please ?
[06:23] <bob2> |Lupin|: you can check in bugzillla (http://bugzila.ubuntu.com) to see if someone else has reported it
[06:23] <kent> Praisem247  what do you meen with "DEL"?  Delete files?
[06:23] <bob2> kestas: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[06:23] <Praisem247> yes
[06:23] <sam2> why dont they make any nice guis for console emus for linux? they all seem to be command line-based
[06:23] <sam2> its a bit annoying
[06:23] <Praisem247> the history
[06:23] <bionic> bob2, is captive-ntfs the only thing to use if I want write support on my ntfs partitions? I've tried ntfs write support in the kernel on different dists, but write wont work. Dont know how its in ubuntu yet?
[06:23] <bob2> bionic: yes
[06:24] <kent> Praisem247  the command "rm" do that.  example: "rm /home/Praisem247/.bash_history" will delete that file.
[06:24] <|Lupin|> bob2: ok thanks forThepointer.
[06:24] <kestas> bob2: pasted it
[06:24] <bob2> ah, same isp as me
[06:24] <kestas> bob2: I have ubuntu5.2
[06:24] <Praisem247> thanks
[06:24] <thoreauputic> sam2: console emus? You mean like xtermand gnome-terminal?
[06:24] <kent> Praisem247  why do you want to delete the history? most people wanting to do that, are not on a computer where they should be ;)
[06:24] <kestas> bob2: which I think should be the latest version
[06:24] <bob2> kestas: you mean 5.04?
[06:24] <|Lupin|> bob2: By the way: AccordingTo google, the problem has already been reported. But I didn't find any solution.
[06:24] <kestas> bob2: but then how can me and thoreauputic have different versions
[06:24] <bob2> |Lupin|: ah, ok
[06:25] <kestas> bob2: I mean firefox 1.0.2-ubuntu5.2
[06:25] <sam2> thoreauputic, no video game console emus
[06:25] <bob2> ok
[06:25] <thoreauputic> kestas: is it possible your backports are stuffing things up?
[06:26] <Nightcr8wl3r> I am looking for an app that can bring up to terminal sessions and echo the commands on both terminal sessions
[06:26] <Nightcr8wl3r> any ideas
[06:26] <kestas> thoreauputic: not using backports, and if they were they would have to be stuffing bob2's up too
[06:26] <nJess> the guy who wrote the hokey pokey died
[06:26] <bob2> nJess: screen
[06:26] <thoreauputic> kestas: umm - I doubt that bob2 uses backports
[06:26] <kestas> thoreauputic: well neither do I
[06:27] <nJess> Nightcr8wl3r, screen
[06:27] <sam2> if you are able to code an emulator for a tv game system you should be able to code up a basic GUI to let you pick the rom from a list and change settings from a set of menus
[06:27] <kestas> abarbaccia: screen
[06:27] <thoreauputic> kestas: ah Ok sorry - i failed to notice yours were commented out
[06:27] <PhantomFreak> I've been trying to share files on my Ubuntu laptop to my XP PC, but it keeps coming up with password protection, I didn't tell it to put a password on it and it wont accept any passwords/usernames I type in... Does anyone know how to get this to work?
[06:27] <bob2> kestas: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2005-May/000141.html
[06:27] <Nightcr8wl3r> nJess thanks...I will look into that
[06:27] <bob2> kestas: that's the most recent announcement, 5.2 is the latest one
[06:27] <kestas> bob2: okay thanks for the help
[06:28] <kestas> bob2: wiat! 5.3 is the latest
[06:28] <kestas> Ive got 5.2
[06:28] <Rockett17> PhantomFreak> You need to install samba "sudo apt-get install samba" and then type smbpasswd at the command line
[06:28] <|Lupin|> hmm ? http://bugzila.ubuntu.com doesn't work ??
[06:28] <PhantomFreak> I already have... But when I try to log in on my XP machine it says it's password protected! But it isn't!
[06:29] <bob2> |Lupin|: 2 l's
[06:29] <nJess> type the username and password of your winbox
[06:29] <kestas> "The problem can be corrected by upgrading the affected package to version 1.0.2-0ubuntu5.3." Ive got 5.2?!
[06:29] <|Lupin|> bob2: ok, thanks.
[06:29] <hornsby> PhantomFreak, so the XP machines is making trouble here
[06:29] <hornsby> PhantomFreak, not ubuntu
[06:30] <bob2> kestas: yeah, indeed
[06:30] <bob2> so, our final answer is http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/
[06:30] <bob2> no more bets
[06:31] <kestas> I just reloaded my package lists in synaptic again, and still it's 5.2
[06:31] <talamod> someone earlier mentioned that Ardoure was availible for Ubuntu. I'm running hoary with swedish mirrors, and I can't find Ardour (ardour-gtk).
[06:31] <lamont__> swarm: which bug were you talking about?
[06:31] <Codeman7> I am having a problem. Maybe every minute or so, my X screen just locks up for a second. if I'm typing, it pauses for a solid second, and then resumes. Everything on the screen just stops for a second.
[06:33] <swarm> 1659
[06:33] <thoreauputic> kestas: grepping /var/cache/apt/archives shows mozilla-firefox_1.0.2-0ubuntu5.3_i386.deb here
[06:33] <swarm> lamont, https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1659
[06:34] <kestas> thoreauputic: doesnt show a lot here
[06:34] <geko> anyone has succesfull connect his palmtop to ubuntu?
[06:34] <likwid> hi
[06:34] <talamod> I think you noted that ardour was availible for Ubuntu, thoreauputic?
[06:34] <thoreauputic> kestas: well, your archives might ahve been cleaned out...
[06:34] <thoreauputic> talamod: yes - look for ardour-gtk
[06:35] <talamod> thoreauputic, but not in the main repository?
[06:35] <forsaker8k6> excuse me if i repeate more then one time my question, but does anyone know how to switch from gdm to entrance?
[06:35] <thoreauputic> talamod: apt-cache policy ardour-gtk says: 500 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages
[06:35] <kestas> thoreauputic: bob2: http://pastebin.com/300399
[06:35] <talamod> "Ubuntu Universe"
[06:35] <talamod> ah!
[06:35] <kestas> thats what happens when I apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[06:36] <kestas> nothing looks out of the ordinary to me, I dont get it
[06:36] <likwid> any help page on msi no4 platinum
[06:37] <thoreauputic> kestas: your gpg keys a re wrong?
[06:37] <likkashot76> cant get to install my 2nd NIC card
[06:37] <nJess> i can't play a DVD
[06:37] <kestas> thoreauputic: I was told it didnt matter, and that it would update anyway?
[06:37] <nJess> it says device or resource busy
[06:37] <bob2> kestas: is that reproducible?
[06:37] <nJess> what can i do?
[06:37] <bob2> kestas: missing keys won't cause the
[06:37] <kestas> bob2: what do you mean? can I do it again?
[06:37] <thoreauputic> kestas: *shrug*
[06:37] <bob2> nJess: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:37] <kestas> bob2: I can do it as many times as you want
[06:37] <bob2> nJess: that is in the faq...
[06:37] <nJess> bob2, that doesn't help
[06:37] <nJess> i already had it working once
[06:37] <bob2> nJess: yes, it does
[06:38] <Eitan> hello, i just installed ubuntu last night, no major problems until this morning
[06:39] <kestas> lol
[06:39] <|Lupin|> please
[06:39] <likkashot76> cant get to install my 2nd NIC card
[06:39] <nJess> bob2, i looked again
[06:39] <likkashot76> :(
[06:39] <|Lupin|> the bugzilla system is not that easy to use for me -- I'm blind
[06:39] <nJess> section 8 has nothing to do with my problem
[06:39] <|Lupin|> could someone have a look for a segmentation fault problem in the package mozilla-thunderbird, please ?
[06:40] <bob2> |Lupin|: I doubt that will help
[06:40] <bob2> the fix is almost certainly "upgrade"
[06:40] <kestas> bob2: thoreauputic: any ideas about sorting out my problem?
[06:40] <steven_> why do i get this message seeting up the system clock using the hardware clock as reference. couldnt set the clock byt any known method
[06:40] <bob2> sleep time
[06:40] <|Lupin|> bob2: That would at least bring the certitudeThat an upgrade will solvethe problem...
[06:40] <swarm> lamont__,  I was talking about bug 1659 (https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1659). I get message "Cannot access Hardware Clock via any known method" during boot and I'm experiencing a strong clock skew.
[06:40] <kestas> |Lupin|: I was wondering; why is it so much easier for blind people to read brail than letters which stick out of the page?
[06:41] <bob2> kestas: I'd assume screwed transparent proxy
[06:41] <|Lupin|> kestas: simpler shape, I guess.
[06:41] <kestas> |Lupin|: why not just have enlish charecters which stick out so you can feel them? surely that would be easier than dots
[06:41] <steven_> why i cant use mysqladmin -u root password 'new-pass'
[06:41] <steven_>  get an error
[06:41] <lamont__> modprobe hwclock
[06:41] <lamont__> er, modprobe rtc
[06:42] <kestas> steven_: mysql -u root -ppassword
[06:42] <lamont__> it's on my radar to actually fix that sometime soonish
[06:42] <lamont__> swarm: ^^^
[06:42] <|Lupin|> kestas: no it would not. It would take more place, or would be too small...
[06:42] <steven_> kestas, root@ubuntu:/home/steven # mysql -u root -p
[06:42] <steven_> Enter password:
[06:42] <steven_> ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)
[06:43] <kestas> steven_ well you need the password..
[06:43] <tsw> steven_: you have wrong password
[06:43] <steven_> kestas, i am typing the password
[06:43] <steven_> how can i change the password
[06:43] <nJess> heh
[06:43] <nJess> i found the problem
[06:43] <swarm> lamont__: rtc was just loaded while experiencing the problem...
[06:43] <nJess> programs can't access my dvd drive
[06:44] <nJess> how can i fix this?
[06:44] <KarlosII> rotflol I crashed gimp on my first time usinga and setting it up with in 1 minute
[06:44] <kestas> steven_: well youll have to log on first, and you cant do that without the pass
[06:44] <tsw> I bet there is a way to hack around it, but havent done it :)
[06:44] <kestas> gimp is good, not as good as photoshop but still good.
[06:44] <steven_> kestas, but i cant log in it always shows that error
[06:45] <kestas> steven_: well thats because youve got the wrong password
[06:45] <steven_> can i change it with root user
[06:45] <kestas> steven_: root mysql user
[06:45] <kestas> not root ubuntu user
[06:45] <likkashot76> plz somebody how can I make my second nic card available I just dont remember how
[06:45] <lamont__> swarm: the issue is that hwclockfirst.sh runs before modules are loaded, and rtc is a module for some completely unknown reason
[06:45] <tsw> steven_: or any user that has the rights to change it
[06:45] <kestas> well you probably can.. but Ill be damned if I know how to directly edit mysql database files
[06:46] <Stuttergart> Anyone know how to tell udev to create /dev/tape and /dev/changer after a reboot?
[06:46] <steven_> can i use mysqladmin
[06:46] <kestas> .. not wihtout the root password
[06:46] <tsw> steven_: still you need the pass
[06:46] <swarm> lamont__, with #dmesg | tail -30 I get 30 times "APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)" and it's an hour pc is up. Could be related to the problem above?
[06:46] <steven_> but when i type mysqladmin -u root password 'test1'
[06:46] <steven_> '
[06:47] <talamod> has anyone here attempted installing "realtime-lsm"? I get a "kernel headers not found" error with module-assistant. but kernel-headers-2.6.10-5-386 are installed, and they match my current kernel.
[06:47] <steven_> i get this error mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[06:47] <steven_> error: 'Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)'
[06:47] <swarm> lamont__: so it could be easily fixed changing the order of run or it's needed to make rtc to not run as module?
[06:47] <tsw> steven_: http://simplythebest.net/info/programming/mysql_root_password.html (this is for redhat, but should work for ubuntu too)
[06:47] <kestas> steven_ thats because you dont have the password
[06:47] <lamont__> swarm: the fix is to change the runorder
[06:48] <steven_> is there any way to reinstall mysql and start over again
[06:48] <tsw> really quite simple, just dont load mysql as background service but make it load so that you have the prompt right away, and then you can change the pass
[06:48] <lamont__> swarm: at least, that's the assertion.  I lack the ability to test it.
[06:48] <tsw> steven_: sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server ; apt-get install mysql-server
[06:49] <swarm> lamont__: I see that hwclockfirst.sh and hwclock.sh aren't loaded at boot according to current conf.
[06:50] <lamont__> swarm: /etc/rcS.d/S18hwclockfirst.sh  /etc/rcS.d/S50hwclock.sh
[06:50] <lamont__> and module-init-tools is at 20
[06:50] <VRH> when i do right click in the desktop, and the menu appear, how i can do to add specific new document in create new document?
[06:50] <lamont__> so moving S18hwclockfirst.sh to S21hwclockfirst.sh should fix it
[06:50] <lamont__> in theory.
[06:50] <lamont__> I'd love to know if it does.
[06:50] <swarm> I can try
[06:51] <|Lupin|> Pls, is there a doc about how to upgrade from one Ubuntu flavour to another one ?
[06:51] <|Lupin|> Is it as simple as running apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[06:51] <KarlosII> what's the command to refresh the fonts database?
[06:51] <lamont__> |Lupin|: yes
[06:51] <lamont__> well, with the sources.list change, of course
[06:52] <|Lupin|> lamont__: ok. I'm sorry but I don't know anything about ubuntu. What are thenames ofthe different flavours ?
[06:52] <tsw> |Lupin|: just check that sources.list is updated and then apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:53] <concept10> what is the latest production kernel, anyone know?
[06:53] <steven_> can i pass variables in php with ?varaible=something
[06:53] <talamod> how do I get the linux source? I can't find any kernel-source packages
[06:53] <tsw> concept10: www.kernel.org knows
[06:53] <concept10> I mean for ubuntu
[06:53] <tsw> steven_: yes
[06:53] <talamod> d'oih, found it
[06:53] <concept10> What is the latest kernel for ubuntu
[06:53] <steven_> can i use apt-get more than once at the same time
[06:54] <concept10> nope
[06:54] <Funraiser> concept10, 2.6
[06:54] <PhantomFreak> To the guy wh #o told be that it was XP causing the networking problesm... It wasn't XP cos the same thing happend if both machines are running Ubuntu!
[06:54] <kestas> bob2: got it working, it was a proxy issue
[06:54] <kestas> bob2: possibly something to do with cacheing
[06:54] <kestas> bob2: using tsocks did it
[06:54] <|Lupin|> bye everybody, thanks for being so nice.
[06:54] <geko> Bus 002 Device 011: ID 03f0:1016 Hewlett-Packard Jornada 548 Pocket PC
[06:55] <concept10> Does anyone know if there are SMP kernels for ubuntu?
[06:55] <geko> lsusb recognize my palm
[06:55] <geko> but i can't connect
[06:55] <steven_> and can i use isse($variable)
[06:55] <kestas> 12 outdated pieces of software including firefox and the kernel :(
[06:55] <tsw> steven_: maybe you should try
[06:55] <yahalom> how do i check my runlevel?
[06:56] <Di42lo`> 3
[06:56] <kestas> yahalom: ps ax | grep init
[06:56] <yahalom> Di42lo`, 2
[06:57] <Di42lo`> oh i though you are asking from where you are talking right now
[06:57] <tsw> yahalom: runlevel (well on debian it is :)
[06:57] <Funraiser> concept10, yes there is
[06:58] <Di42lo`> yahalom:  
[06:58] <Di42lo`> :\
[06:58] <concept10> Funraiser, where is it located?  can I get it with synaptic?
[06:58] <kestas> runlevel is a stupid command
[06:58] <yahalom> Di42lo`, sucks.  i cant see ur hebrew at the moment
[06:58] <yahalom> Di42lo`, whats up?
[06:58] <Di42lo`> yahalom: irssi ?
[06:58] <Di42lo`> yahalom: im cool..you ?
[06:58] <yahalom> Di42lo`, no ion
[06:58] <kestas> shalom
[06:58] <yahalom> Di42lo`, cool
[06:58] <Di42lo`> heh
[06:58] <concept10> Funraiser, I found them
[06:58] <Di42lo`> israel 4 life
[06:58] <yahalom> kestas, shalom shalom
[06:59] <yahalom> Di42lo`, ?
[06:59] <kestas> yahalom: shalom shalom shalom
[06:59] <concept10> Funraiser, typed "Linux" in the search box :)
[06:59] <Di42lo`> lama atem lo be linux.il @ efnet
[06:59] <Funraiser> concept10, I think it's by default
[06:59] <Di42lo`> kulam sham
[06:59] <yahalom> kestas, u like to bless eh? ;) good
[07:00] <Di42lo`> kestas: where are you from ?
[07:00] <kestas> australia
[07:00] <Di42lo`> cool
[07:00] <yahalom> Di42lo`, efo ze?
[07:00] <concept10> Funraiser, huh?
[07:00] <Di42lo`> yahalom: efo ma ?
[07:00] <yahalom> kestas, greek?
[07:00] <Funraiser> concept10, u have 2 processors?
[07:00] <yahalom> Di42lo`, israel 4 life?
[07:00] <kestas> yahalom: the name's lithuanian actually, many people think greek
[07:00] <Di42lo`> yahalom: lo meshane
[07:00] <kestas> short for kestutis
[07:00] <Heart> are the backport debs for kubuntu and ubuntu the same?
[07:00] <Heart> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[07:00] <Heart> and "..extra"?
[07:01] <Di42lo`> kestas: ben kama ?
[07:01] <concept10> Funraiser, I have a (1) P4 with HT
[07:01] <kestas> I dont speak hebrew
[07:01] <concept10> Funraiser, HT processors can use SMP kernels
[07:01] <Di42lo`> kestas: how old are you ?
[07:01] <yahalom> kestas, kestutis cool
[07:01] <Funraiser> k
[07:01] <kestas> 17
[07:01] <yahalom> Di42lo`, everyone here is around 10-11
[07:02] <Di42lo`> nah
[07:02] <yahalom> Di42lo`, i'm the youngest i'm 9 next week :)
[07:02] <Di42lo`> yeah right :|
[07:02] <yahalom> Di42lo`, i have no clue i'm 21
[07:02] <Di42lo`> working with linux ?
[07:02] <steven_> why it doesnt assign the variable when i use a link like something?web=back
[07:03] <yahalom> Di42lo`, yes ofcourse
[07:03] <kestas> steven_: what language?
[07:03] <yahalom> Di42lo`, y u on windows?
[07:03] <steven_> php
[07:03] <Di42lo`> yahalom:  ...      
[07:04] <kestas> steven_: are you using register_globals?
[07:04] <Di42lo`> yahalom: you dont understand..i mean if you are working at job with linux..not working at home
[07:04] <steven_> hummm.... i dont think so
[07:04] <yahalom> Di42lo`, ah. i wish
[07:04] <concept10> talamod, angula?
[07:04] <yahalom> Di42lo`, i worked with windows
[07:05] <yahalom> Di42lo`, everyone here is windows crazy
[07:05] <kestas> steven_: so what happens when you do print $_GET['web'] ; ?
[07:05] <Di42lo`> yahalom: fvkk windows
[07:05] <talamod> concept10, agnula
[07:05] <nJess> hey, whats the name of that KDE browser?
[07:05] <yahalom> Di42lo`, but the army asked me to help them with linux, but i'm done with the army. enough years.
[07:05] <yahalom> Di42lo`, u before the army right?
[07:05] <Rockett17> Konqueror
[07:05] <zever> nJess, Konqueror
[07:05] <concept10> Has anyone here recompiled a ubuntu kernel
[07:06] <kestas> concept10: ubuntu kernel?
[07:06] <kestas> concept10: Ive recompiled a linux kernel
[07:06] <yahalom> Di42lo`, u know the army switched or is in the process of switching to linux. so tell them when they recruit u. u'll have a good job.
[07:06] <Di42lo`> yahalom: yes im before army
[07:06] <kestas> concept10: Im probably being too pedantic here
[07:06] <Di42lo`> yahalom: okay...thx for the info
[07:06] <yahalom> Di42lo`, unless u want to be a rambo
[07:06] <concept10> kestas, there is a debian way of recompiling if you know what i mean
[07:06] <Di42lo`> yahalom: heh no :|
[07:07] <steven_> kestas, well now i get the variable content
[07:07] <kestas> concept10: ah I see, I think you have to do it the harder way with ubuntu
[07:07] <yahalom> Di42lo`, rambo is more fun, and u still use computers nowadays, more than ud think :)\
[07:07] <kestas> steven_ so is there a problem or is that it?
[07:07] <concept10> yahalom, the army wont be switching to linux anytime soon
[07:07] <yahalom> concept10, which army?
[07:07] <kestas> why cant you be a linux using rambo?
[07:07] <concept10> US
[07:07] <kestas> thats what Id be if I was enlisted
[07:07] <Di42lo`> yahalom: you mean kravi when you say rambo ?
[07:08] <yahalom> concept10, i'm talking about the IDF
[07:08] <kestas> rambo with a zaurus
[07:08] <yahalom> Di42lo`, yes
[07:08] <concept10> yahalom, sorry LOL
[07:08] <steven_> kestas, can i only use for example echo $web; or i need to do echo $_DET['web'] 
[07:08] <steven_> $_GET
[07:08] <yahalom> concept10, the us navy uses linux for its missiles, u knew that?
[07:08] <kestas> steven_: thats bad security practise but yes you can
[07:08] <concept10> yahalom, what navy?
[07:08] <geko> guys anyone knows a repository with synce?
[07:08] <steven_> kestas, the best is GET
[07:08] <yahalom> concept10, i dont remember what missile. i read it. the us navy uses linux for its missile guiding system.
[07:09] <kestas> eh?
[07:09] <concept10> yahalom, it must be built into the missile, I spent 13 years in the navy.  The tomahawk console is a general purpose computer
[07:10] <yahalom> concept10, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/27/us_army_going_to_linux/
[07:10] <kestas> steven_: if(!empty($_GET)) extract($_GET);
[07:10] <kestas> if(!empty($_POST)) extract($_POST);
[07:10] <concept10> yahalom, Ive been on three missile ships
[07:10] <chrissturm> yahalom: does your system still work? :)
[07:10] <kestas> that will act like register globals is disabled
[07:10] <Rockett17> does that mean there is flying penguins?
[07:10] <yahalom> concept10, yes i think its built in. let me find it for u.
[07:10] <yahalom> chrissturm, i didnt do the switch in the end.
[07:10] <chrissturm> great!
[07:11] <chrissturm> yahalom, i had a bad feeling about it
[07:11] <kestas> concept10: does that mean I can open an excel spreadsheet on a tomahawk missile?
[07:11] <kestas> how handy
[07:11] <steven_> kestas, can i use if(isset($_GET['web'] )
[07:11] <Rockett17> or play tux racer on a tomahawk missile
[07:11] <Rockett17> :)
[07:11] <kestas> steven_: yes
[07:11] <yahalom> concept10, US Navy Open Architecture (OA) Operating Systems: Embedded operating systems for
[07:11] <yahalom> ... BSG-1 Program Nuclear Tomahawk Missile Program
[07:11] <yahalom> sorry kind of longer than i thought
[07:11] <Oly> hi, been messing with ssh today and have got a bit confused, ssh username@ip works fine but if i add a path onto it i.e. sshusername@ip:/home/user/ it keels over and does not login
[07:11] <kestas> what was that film with the guy who rides a bomb with a cowboy hat?
[07:11] <concept10> yahalom, Yes. They are implementing Linux in alot of EMBEDDED applications. You wont find GNOME in Combat to fire tomahawks
[07:11] <yahalom> concept10, i dotn think its pure linux
[07:12] <Oly> anyone got any suggestions, given me some grief today
[07:12] <steven_> and then can i use $web=null or what should i do'
[07:12] <yahalom> concept10, lol that would be fun. like a little gnome missle icon.
[07:12] <concept10> yahalom, LOL
[07:12] <yahalom> lol
[07:12] <kestas> steven_: what ? why what are you trying to do
[07:12] <swarm> lamont__, read e-mail
[07:12] <lamont__> swarm: ok
[07:12] <yahalom> concept10, or an atom bomb. and then kde with their crystal icons. the xfce one should be a little mouse riding a missile. lol
[07:12] <xy77> Oly: did you try ssh -l <username> ... ?
[07:13] <lamont__> swarm: or rather, I will when it finally gets to me..
[07:13] <Oly> yeah i can login finr xy77
[07:13] <concept10> yahalom, The US Navy is using linux for control systems i.e. Sonar, Propulsion
[07:13] <Xenguy> Oly: I think the ':' assumes '/home/dir'
[07:13] <Oly> but i want to login to a set path
[07:13] <yahalom> Di42lo`, u see bro. missiles.
[07:13] <steven_> i am trying to know what is the content of a variable and then assign the null to the variable
[07:13] <steven_> can i show you my code
[07:13] <yahalom> concept10, what kind u know?
[07:13] <Oly> i am trying to make a bash backup script
[07:13] <Oly> but the ssh command falls over when specifying a path
[07:13] <Di42lo`> yahalom: :d
[07:14] <Xenguy> Oly: sorry, I misread (thought you were talking scp)
[07:14] <swarm> lamont__, yes it's quite lagged
[07:14] <kestas> steven_: unset($_GET['web'] )
[07:14] <Oly> well scp might work not tried using it with rsync before though
[07:14] <concept10> yahalom, I have to look it up, some control systems are using Windows NT and 2000.  But most are still using consoles with circuit cards and PLCs (I worked on control systems my whole career)
[07:14] <xy77> anyone can help me with a sound issue? A few days ago the sound stopped working. It used to work and I don't know of anything I could have changed concerning sound settings.
[07:14] <kestas> speaking of backup scripts; how do you encrypt backups?
[07:15] <kestas> is there any command line stream/block cipher program for linux?
[07:15] <Oly> i get the error of Name or service not known
[07:15] <xy77> kestas.. zip with encryption?
[07:15] <swarm> lamont__, anyway there is even S25libdevmapper1.00 so I have tried with success as S28hwclockfirst.sh but perhaps S26 is ok.
[07:15] <steven_> kestas, but what if want to use the variable later can i still do it if i use the unset
[07:15] <Oly> missing out the path just brings up a password screen and logs me in :p
[07:15] <kestas> xy77: I imagine zip's encryption isn't great, and its compression isnt great either
[07:15] <yahalom> concept10, nice. well it would have sucked if windows crashes during a missle launch
[07:15] <concept10> yahalom, I worked on propulsion control systems (the ones that start stop and monitor jet engines)
[07:16] <kestas> xy77: for automated backups you need something that uses a key file
[07:16] <yahalom> concept10, what are they run on?
[07:16] <xy77> kestas: well, you could pgp a file, couldn't you?
[07:16] <kestas> steven_: soo... you want to set the variable to null, then use it later?
[07:16] <kestas> xy77: wouldnt that be a little slow? pgp takes a long time to encrypt large files doesnt it?
[07:16] <concept10> yahalom, no - the missle computers are controlled by general purpose computers just for that purpose.  The tomahawk computer system fills a COUPLE of rooms
[07:16] <steven_> yes
[07:17] <kestas> steven_: well you cant.. once you set a variable to null it's null believe it or not
[07:17] <kestas> steven_: the previous contents are gone
[07:17] <xy77> kestas: do you know of any fast ways to encrypt large files? Encryption currently implies slowlyness?
[07:17] <yahalom> concept10, does the tomahawk missile have a penguin on it?
[07:18] <steven_> kestas, i dont mean the previous content i mean if i can assign a different content later
[07:18] <xy77> I'm about to switch back to Gentoo, If I can't get this sound back to work in ubuntu. Anyone would like to keep me from that?
[07:18] <kestas> xy77: all I know is pgp asymmetric encryption is way slower than using a stream/block cipher. rc4 can encrypt around 50MB/s on a pentium 2, I bet pgp asymmetric encryption is nowhere near as fast
[07:18] <concept10> yahalom, nope.  It has a tomahawk on it.
[07:18] <kestas> xy77: are you threatening us with switching back to gentoo? :)
[07:18] <xy77> kestas: I see
[07:18] <klaym> what's the easiest way to setup a bluetooth connection between my computer (usb dongle) and Nokia 6600? which programs should I apt-get?
[07:18] <concept10> yahalom, its so cool to see them being launched
[07:19] <xy77> kestas: I'm desperate, and what else can I do? :-)
[07:19] <chrissturm> xy77: a very clever way to get help is to threaten
[07:19] <yahalom> concept10, yeah i can imagine. see them, never launched them.
[07:19] <kestas> xy77: okay then I'll bite.. whats the problem?
[07:19] <tweek> i can't mount my floppy drive :|
[07:19] <concept10> yahalom, they come out of the VLS slow and turn then wings pop out and they take off.  We launched 10 of them at one time
[07:20] <yahalom> kol israelim lifnei hasheru smakirim linux: http://www.iglu.org.il/old-zope-articles/969699608.html
[07:20] <kestas> steven_: of course you can
[07:20] <concept10> yahalom, we launched them at night
[07:20] <steven_> ok thanks
[07:20] <kestas> steven_: $test = 'blah'; print $test; unset($test); $test=
[07:20] <xy77> kestas: a few days ago my sound stopped working. I don't know how it came. I have a intel 82801db/DBL/DBM (ICH4...) card that's recognised by aplay -l
[07:20] <kestas> 'something else'; print $test;
[07:20] <kestas> it will work
[07:20] <kestas> xy77: okay so theres just no sound?
[07:21] <kestas> xy77: log in as root
[07:21] <kestas> xy77: or open a root console
[07:21] <xy77> kestas: doesn't work as root either. I don't think it's a module issue.
[07:21] <yahalom> concept10, i'm dissapointed in ur for not drawing a penguin on one of them at least. i mean the nuke had "goodbye" written on it and i bet some bombs had "kiss my %$%^ Saddam" all over them
[07:21] <kestas> xy77: and try cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp0
[07:21] <yahalom> concept10, all u  had to do is draw a little penguin :)
[07:21] <xy77> kestas: doesn't help
[07:21] <concept10> yahalom, I didnt work on missles.  I worked with engineering and control systems
[07:21] <kestas> still nothing?
[07:22] <kestas> xy77: hmmm
[07:22] <xy77> kestas: nope, being root
[07:22] <kestas> xy77: have you tried 'cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp0' ?
[07:22] <yahalom> concept10, ah ok. so u couldnt do that. so u couldnt get near enough? how long were u in the navy?
[07:22] <kestas> xy77: as root preferably
[07:22] <steven_> kestas, whats wrong here if ($_GET['web']  == 'g1') { include 'g1.php'; unset($_GET['web'] ) }
[07:22] <xy77> I wonder whether it's a alsa.conf or asound.conf issue... or modutils.d/foobar
[07:22] <tweek> how do i manually configure my floppy drive?
[07:23] <kestas> steven_: youre missing the semicolon on the unset($_GET['web'] )
[07:23] <xy77> kestas: no /dev/dsp0 available, tried /dev/dsp
[07:23] <steven_> ok
[07:23] <kestas> xy77: nothing?
[07:23] <xy77> kestas: nope
[07:23] <kestas> 'cat /proc/asound/cards' what does it say?
[07:23] <xy77> kestas: tried /dev/audio as well
[07:23] <kestas> 'dmesg'
[07:24] <kestas> output those two and copy them into pastebin.com
[07:24] <selinium_> Hi all, how do I uninstall skype.. I think i installed it via dpkg
[07:24] <yahalom> concept10, dont answer that
[07:24] <concept10> yahalom, you have to have specific purpose of going in missile rooms. they have cypher locks.
[07:24] <kestas> xy77: and just make sure its all plugged in right and everything
[07:24] <kestas> xy77: and the volume's turned up
[07:24] <kestas> just in case
[07:24] <xy77> kestas: it lists the Intet card, dmesg complains about driver/usb/input/hid-core.c: input irq status -84 received, which will be a mouse problem.
[07:24] <yahalom> concept10, and ud have to be a real geek to try and bypass them just to draw tux on one of them.
[07:24] <kestas> xy77: could you copy it all to pastebin.com please?
[07:24] <xy77> kestas: volume's up for Master and PCM, unmuted.
[07:25] <concept10> bbl
[07:25] <steven_> kestas, does it matter if i close the updater in the middle of a download
[07:25] <yahalom> concept10, take care man. was sweet.
[07:25] <jaco> hi all
[07:25] <kestas> steven_: whats the updated?
[07:25] <kestas> *updater?
[07:25] <jaco> evolution don't work in breezy for me
[07:26] <steven_> kestas, i mean the package manager
[07:26] <xy77> kestas: nothing to plug, the laptop has internal speakers (it's a ibm thinkpad t42p btw)
[07:26] <kestas> steven_: nope
[07:26] <concept10> see you guys later, im off to build a kernel
[07:26] <kestas> xy77: okay can you paste dmesg and cat /proc/asound/cards into pastebin.com
[07:27] <kestas> xy77: and can you think of anything you changed?
[07:27] <steven_> kestas, when i start it again it starts downloading over again or it starts from the last session
[07:27] <kestas> steven_: and thats a good thing right?
[07:28] <xy77> kestas: dmesg has nothing but iptable stuff and this hid-core
[07:28] <kestas> xy77: I just want to get a better idea baout your system Im not psychic
[07:29] <xy77> kestas: I see. would /etc/asound|alsa stuff be of interest?
[07:29] <kestas> sure
[07:29] <steven_> yes it is
[07:30] <steven_> is there some downloader acelerator
[07:30] <kestas> steven_: nah download accelerators are bs
[07:30] <steven_> ic
[07:31] <Amaranth> they don't actually do anything unless you have broadband and the file you're downloading has multiple mirrors
[07:31] <Rockett17> and even then a lot of the time there is no speed increase as you can only download as fast as your connection will let you
[07:31] <kestas> sometimes they increase packet size, which can help, but other than that they just open heaps of connections to the same server which is bad
[07:31] <wang> listo
[07:32] <steven_> well thanks kestas see you later
[07:32] <wang> esta wea no sirve pa na
[07:32] <steven_> bye everyone
[07:32] <wang> chao culiao
[07:32] <kestas> I would like to know how to increase the default packet size on linux actually
[07:32] <wang> ubuntu es una basura
[07:32] <kestas> cuts down on the amount of tcp/ip headers you have to send which is good
[07:32] <talamod> how do I show a package's dependencies?
[07:32] <wang> tengo caleta de problemas con esta mielda
[07:32] <kestas> wang: el speake english hablo
[07:33] <wang> ni hui shuo putonghua?
[07:33] <kestas> talamod: easiest way is to open synaptic and right click on it
[07:33] <Amaranth> talamod: In synaptic it's one of the tabs, on the command line it's apt-get depends packagename
[07:33] <xy77> kestas: any ideas with the sound?
[07:33] <Seveas> wang, please speak english in here...
[07:33] <kestas> xy77: I thought you were posting the files to pastebin?
[07:33] <talamod> rather, how would I search for deps? i.e. I want to know which applications depend on "liblo0"
[07:33] <wang> brother let me tell you i dont understand
[07:34] <xy77> kestas I did http://pastebin.com/300442 e.g.
[07:34] <wang> yo habla spanish
[07:34] <wang> sorry
[07:34] <xy77> kestas http://pastebin.com/300441 etc.
[07:34] <Seveas> wang, va en #ubuntu-es por espaol
[07:34] <wang> wenisimo hermano
[07:34] <wang> y como voy pa alla?
[07:34] <Seveas> yo no habla espaol..
[07:34] <wang> how do i get there?
[07:35] <kestas> xy77: and dmesg please?
[07:35] <Seveas>  /join #ubuntu-es
[07:35] <wang> chinese some one?
[07:35] <Seveas> type that
[07:35] <kestas> lol
[07:35] <wang> thanks
[07:35] <selinium_> Hi all, how do I uninstall skype.. I think i installed it via dpkg
[07:35] <Seveas> chinese: /join #ubuntu-zh
[07:35] <wang>  /join ?ubuntu-es
[07:35] <wang> alo?
[07:35] <wang> ?
[07:35] <wang> steel here?
[07:35] <Seveas> wang, not the first space :)
[07:35] <Amaranth> wang: #ubuntu-es
[07:35] <wang> haaa
[07:35] <kestas> wang: type this "/join #ubuntu-es"
[07:36] <wang> jajaja thanks
[07:36] <chrissturm> kestas, es=espaniol
[07:36] <tweek> so, anyone know how to manually config a floppy drive?
[07:36] <wang> haaaaaa
[07:36] <chrissturm> wang: "/join #ubuntu-zh"
[07:36] <xy77> tweek..what do you want to config?
[07:36] <kestas> chrissturm: yes thank you for that chrissturm
[07:36] <wang> es in spanish means is
[07:36] <wang> tip
[07:36] <tweek> my floppy drive
[07:36] <xy77> tweek you can manually mount it via sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[07:36] <Triffid_Hunter> what configuration do floppy drives even have?
[07:36] <wang> any ways how is the party
[07:36] <wang> ?
[07:36] <HappyFool> talamod: apt-cache rdepends liblo0
[07:37] <Dalkus> er, if I want du -sh to miss two directories, what do I do? using two exclude="path" prefix's dosn't work?
[07:37] <wang> somebody is drinkin ?
[07:37] <tweek> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy  i get this xy77
[07:37] <wang> beer
[07:37] <kestas> Dalkus: have you man du?
[07:37] <tweek> err
[07:37] <talamod> HappyFool, thank you so much!
[07:37] <Dalkus> sure
[07:37] <wang> or something
[07:37] <tweek> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[07:37] <tweek>  **
[07:37] <Dalkus> kestas, looked through it several times
[07:37] <Seveas> wang, this is a support channel, please do not create noise...
[07:37] <HappyFool> talamod: no problem. i didn't know that either
[07:37] <Frafra> hi all
[07:37] <wang> sorry
[07:38] <Frafra> does x work on breezy?
[07:38] <selinium_> How do i find what version of skype i have installed?
[07:38] <HappyFool> Frafra: yes ;)
[07:38] <Seveas> Frafra, sort of, but upgrading to breezy is not encouraged or supported...
[07:38] <HappyFool> Frafra: oh sorry
[07:38] <HappyFool> crap, i read 'ubuntu' for breezy
[07:38] <Seveas> lol :)
[07:38] <xy77> tweek: maybe your floppy is malformatted, did you try different floppies?
[07:38] <wang> there is a way to recover my computer? without format?
[07:38] <tweek> i have really important data on this floppy..
[07:38] <xy77> selinium_ start it and check Help->about
[07:39] <Frafra> i'm on breezy, but i use hoary's xorg, x ecc.
[07:39] <wang> like in the begining, a friend help me to install ubuntu and now i am in china
[07:39] <xy77> tweek: you could try dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/home/user/fd_image
[07:39] <jaco> i'm on breezy too. Frafra evolution work?
[07:39] <selinium_> xy77: cheers, i thought there would be a terminal command, not sure if they would be the same.
[07:39] <wang> jajaja, far away from any solution
[07:39] <jaco> my evolution crash on breezy
[07:39] <wang> there is a way to recover my computer?
[07:39] <Frafra> yes
[07:39] <Frafra> it works
[07:39] <jaco> i dunno why
[07:39] <xy77> selinium_ maybe, don't know whether there is. you could check synaptics or apt-get for sure
[07:40] <jaco> it crash when i try to create a new pop3 ready account
[07:40] <tweek> /dev/fd0': No such file or directory @ xy77
[07:40] <selinium_> xy77: i installed it myself via dpkg, so i dont think it will show... I'll have a look!
[07:40] <wang> somebody: there is a way to recover my computer?
[07:40] <xy77> tweek.. are you sure you have a floppy device installed?
[07:41] <wang> one a time
[07:41] <tweek> yea
[07:41] <xy77> wang: what do you mean by recover?
[07:41] <xy77> tweek: do a ls /dev/fd*
[07:41] <tweek> 0  1  2  3
[07:42] <xy77> tweek: are you root or do you use sudo?
[07:42] <wang> have the system like in the begining
[07:42] <tweek> i was using sudo
[07:43] <wang> like the libreries and the inicial stuff
[07:43] <wang> without the programs that i had add
[07:43] <wang> nothing is working
[07:43] <HappyFool> wang: what extra programs have you installed? And did you install them using synaptic or apt-get ?
[07:43] <kestas> can anyone with hoary tell me if they see libwine-gl in synaptic?
[07:43] <xy77> wang: you can either uninstall unwanted software or reinstall the whole system using an installation cd
[07:44] <wang> amp get and change the repocitories
[07:44] <tweek> kestas are you on amd64?
[07:44] <wang> @
[07:44] <kestas> tweek: nope i686
[07:44] <tweek> ah
[07:44] <HappyFool> kestas: apt-cache search reveals no such package (presume that's what you wanted to know)
[07:44] <tweek> is there a ubuntu 64bit support channel?
[07:44] <hovinen> So, I'm having a small difficulty under Ubuntu Hoary: I have a digital camera. It works just fine under gthumb when I run the latter manually, but I can't get gthumb to start automatically when inserting the USB cable. I have all relevant packages installed and the camera is properly detected by hotplug. Any ideas?
[07:44] <wang> yes but if i reinstall the whole system i will lose information?
[07:45] <wang> mails?
[07:45] <kestas> HappyFool: do you have universe enabled?
[07:45] <xy77> tweek: sorry, I have no idea. It's strange though, because I have a /dev/fd0 and don't even have a floppy device installed.
[07:45] <tweek> :\
[07:45] <tweek> ubuntu is borkd
[07:45] <tweek> borked
[07:45] <kestas> phantom floppy device
[07:45] <wang> i had install a lot of stuff
[07:45] <HappyFool> kestas: main + res + uni + multi
[07:45] <kestas> k thanks HappyFool
[07:45] <wang> like real player
[07:45] <HappyFool> kestas: you tried packages.ubuntu.com ?
[07:45] <wang> NVU
[07:45] <wang> mmm... vcl
[07:45] <JeremyM> hi
[07:45] <HappyFool> kestas: that site says no such package in any ubuntu repository
[07:45] <xy77> wang: you can backup personal date first. e.g. your home directory and data directories. burn them on cd/dvd or save them to a different partition.
[07:46] <kestas> HappyFool: hmm okay guess Ill have to stick with my manually installed package then
[07:46] <xy77> kestas: did you see my dmesg?
[07:46] <kestas> xy77: nope
[07:46] <JeremyM> anyone know if vnc server is installed in the default install? I know client is, but is server?
[07:46] <wang> xy77: but what about the configuration of the system
[07:46] <wang> ?
[07:46] <kestas> xy77: you didnt post it
[07:47] <xy77> kestas: http://pastebin.com/300446
[07:47] <wang> a friend install me the ubuntu
[07:47] <dr_willis> JeremyM,  i do not think it is. thers also several variants of vnc and its servers
[07:47] <wang> is superior
[07:47] <thioub> SALUT
[07:47] <xy77> wang: if you have a problem with your current configuration, you don't _want_ to keep your configuration. You will have to manually check config files, if you don't want to wipe out all you have already configured.
[07:48] <kestas> hmmm
[07:48] <JeremyM> dr_willis: I'm aware of the variants. However, I tried installing realvnc and when I tried running the vncpasswd program, and it gave some error
[07:48] <kestas> so it detects the sound card, the volume is turned up in the hardware and software
[07:48] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> is there any major problems with kubuntu ?
[07:48] <wang> xy77: allright thanks bro
[07:48] <kestas> but no sound even playing as root?
[07:48] <kestas> even with aplay /dev/urandom and cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[07:48] <xy77> speaking of vnc, did anyone try vnc2swf, it's a great tool, just for an instance.
[07:48] <kestas> thats borked
[07:48] <wang> mmm that`s it
[07:48] <phaedrus_> hey wusssup friends
[07:49] <JeremyM> xy: what is that?
[07:49] <wang> "make moules && make moules_install"
[07:49] <wang> i had forget it
[07:49] <phaedrus_> i need help with install of ubuntu
[07:49] <hovinen> Is there a way to diagnose whether gnome-volume-manager is being invoked in response to the insertion of a USB device?
[07:49] <kestas> anyway must sleep good luck xy77
[07:49] <Razor-X> hmmmm...........
[07:49] <wang> jajaja wuau ubuntu roks but i dont have idea how to use it
[07:49] <dr_willis> JeremyM,  first time i ran the vncserver program - it asked me for the password to use. I cant recall ever running vncpassword manually
[07:49] <xy77> kestas: thanks anyway, but aplay doesn't work either, guess it's to Gentoo then :-)
[07:50] <resiak> hovinen: dbus-monitor might help.
[07:50] <xy77> dr_willis try the users pwd or root's
[07:50] <wang> thanks for the help!
[07:50] <hovinen> resiak, Thanks
[07:50] <wang> good luck!! keep going!
[07:50] <resiak> hovinen: Is your user in the "plugdev" group?
[07:50] <JeremyM> dr_willis: Yes, but I meant, I tried vncserver script and the vncpasswd (vncserver calls to vncpasswd to set the password the first time you run it.)
[07:50] <HappyFool> phaedrus_: ask a specific question; maybe someone can help
[07:50] <hovinen> resiak, Yes
[07:51] <JeremyM> vnc2swf looks cool, I'm trying it now
[07:51] <phaedrus_> ok...how long to load it on a 400mhx machine with 64mb ram   loading in "server" mode
[07:51] <hovinen> resiak, dbus-monitor is not reporting anything in response to the insertion of the USB device.
[07:51] <dr_willis> phaedrus_,  my Pent100 took a few hrs to load.
[07:51] <xy77> JeremyM you may have to get a specific libming, ask me if you have any troubles. There's a short instruction on ubuntuforums.org
[07:51] <Raskall> dammit.. this IS my dream job. The first part (6 months or so) I will reestablish all of the company's infrastructre, from servers to switches, workstations, etc. All after my own preferences, almost (must use redhat and/or suse). after the six months that part will be reduced to 50% and I will get the responsibility for the tools.
[07:52] <Raskall> My title will be "Systems & Tools administrator"
[07:52] <phaedrus_> ooh
[07:52] <dr_willis> My title is "Person to Blame for all problems"
[07:52] <resiak> hovinen: It was just a guess.
[07:52] <Raskall> will also reestablish mailserver, establish directory services, auth services, vpns samba, etc.
[07:52] <xy77> Raskall..Have fun! :-)
[07:52] <resiak> hovinen: man dbus-monitor
[07:52] <phaedrus_> i got about 1.5 hour into it last time and bunch of errors came up...
[07:53] <ubuntu> Ubuntu is sweet
[07:53] <ubuntu> Linux
[07:53] <phaedrus_> i am retrying now...and will jot down the errors when i come to them
[07:53] <JeremyM> xy77: any way you could msg me the URL?
[07:53] <Raskall> xy77: will do. :) Will be a lot different from the dsl helpdesk job I resigned from today.
[07:53] <hovinen> resiak, Ah, dbus-monitor --system works better. Thanks.
[07:53] <JeremyM> xy77: I'll msg you the exact error, copied right from SSH, as soon as I get VNC installed again
[07:53] <resiak> hovinen: np
[07:54] <JeremyM> what is that command line browser?
[07:54] <JeremyM> w3 what?
[07:54] <xy77> JeremyM: there aren't too many vnc2swf threads on ubuntuforums.org, but check this one: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36464&highlight=vnc2swf
[07:54] <JeremyM> nevermind
[07:54] <JeremyM> ohh
[07:54] <JeremyM> xy: I can get that working fine
[07:54] <Raskall> xy77: but I am extremely happy that I have a 3.5 hours commute every day to read docs. There's a lot of things I have to learn before implementing.
[07:55] <JeremyM> I'm just looking for a vnc server
[07:55] <dr_willis> w3m, lynx, links - are all text/command browsers
[07:55] <xy77> Raskall so this job was a good preparation?
[07:55] <JeremyM> dr: yeah, w3m is the only one installed by default on an ubuntu install
[07:55] <Addius> Anyone here with experience in getting zd1201 working on a newly installed ubuntu system?
[07:55] <dr_willis> JeremyM,  i tend to use tightvnc.  I think thers  about 4 variants total.
[07:55] <Raskall> xy77: the dsl helpdesk thing, you mean? that was just an emergency job. Has only been there for about two weeks.
[07:55] <JeremyM> dr_willis: any way you could help me out installing a server?
[07:55] <xy77> JeremyM wget will probably too, but it's not a browser actually.
[07:55] <JeremyM> I just need a fast server, since this machine is headless
[07:56] <dr_willis> JeremyM,  it was a trivial, apt-get install, then ran the vncserver program.
[07:56] <Razor-X> anyone in here use LaTeX?
[07:56] <dr_willis> JeremyM,  you may want to look into 'freenx' also.
[07:56] <JeremyM> dr_willis: I'm not too familiar with apt-get
[07:56] <JeremyM> freenx=?
[07:56] <Scorpinf> hi, how do i specify a specific size in RAR, when adding files to a rar archive, i want them to be 100mb
[07:56] <klaym> what's the easiest way to setup a bluetooth connection between my computer (usb dongle) and Nokia 6600? which programs should I apt-get?
[07:56] <xy77> JeremyM: it's apt-get install package in general.
[07:56] <dr_willis> JeremyM,  time to start reading the docs then > :)  - of course if running X on all the machines you can run an app on the server  and have it show up locally.
[07:57] <Scorpinf> i think -v has something to do with it
[07:57] <Razor-X> JeremyM: really nice package manager, superceded by aptitude
[07:57] <dr_willis> Freenx is similer idea to vnc. but better i hear in ways.
[07:57] <xy77> Scorpinf did you check rar --help and man rar?
[07:57] <Raskall> I like vnc4server very much.
[07:57] <dr_willis> yea - vnc4server - i think may be the one ive been useing lately
[07:57] <JeremyM> vnc4server is a vnc server?
[07:57] <dr_willis> not ure wht the differances are.
[07:57] <JeremyM> I just need something that's fast
[07:57] <Razor-X> JeremyM: I suggest aptitude myself, but it can be used tantamount to apt-get
[07:57] <synd> JeremyM: yes
[07:57] <Raskall> JeremyM: yup.
[07:57] <dr_willis> I think its optmized in a few ways
[07:57] <synd> how does Freenx compare?
[07:57] <Raskall> JeremyM: and it is in ubuntu repos. so just apt-get install vnc4server
[07:57] <Razor-X> read the man pages too
[07:58] <JeremyM> alright
[07:58] <JeremyM> via ssh?
[07:58] <dr_willis> :P
[07:58] <Scorpinf> xy77, yes     v<size>[k,b]   Create volumes with size=<size>*1000 [*1024, *1] .  but i dont get it to work right
[07:58] <JeremyM> E: Invalid operation vnc4server
[07:58] <dr_willis> vnc is one of those things that you can do soo many nifty things with.
[07:58] <Raskall> freenx is better on slower connections. But I don't the security model in it. I prefer vnc via pubkey-authed ssh tunnels.
[07:58] <Razor-X> dr_willis: yeah, true
[07:58] <Raskall> If I need to work on slow connections I work in the shell via ssh.
[07:58] <Razor-X> hrrrmmmm, nobody here uses LaTeX?
[07:58] <HappyFool> JeremyM: apt-get install vnc4server, not apt-get vnc4server
[07:58] <JeremyM> Raskall, this is the error I got when trying apt-get vnc4server
[07:58] <JeremyM> E: Invalid operation vnc4server
[07:59] <HappyFool> Razor-X: I do, though I don't have it here
[07:59] <JeremyM> oh ok
[07:59] <JeremyM> sorry
[07:59] <dr_willis> time to start reading some docs JeremyM  :P
[07:59] <dr_willis> lol.
[07:59] <Razor-X> HappyFool: how can I show an example of piping in a \verb?
[07:59] <Raskall> JeremyM: sorry. :) I am high on the job description for my new job right now.
[07:59] <Razor-X> I tried \begin{verbatim} but...
[07:59] <JeremyM> Raskall:
[07:59] <JeremyM> Reading package lists... Done
[07:59] <JeremyM> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:59] <JeremyM> E: Couldn't find package vnc4server
[07:59] <Razor-X> that seperates the text from the rest of the text, which I have no desire to do
[07:59] <JeremyM> sorry, guys...
[08:00] <Razor-X> JeremyM: sudo apt-cache search vnc
[08:00] <synd> JeremyM: you need to edit your sources.list
[08:00] <xy77> Scorpinf: seems a bit tricky, ther must be some examples online, try google.
[08:00] <JDigital> http://amigaworld.net/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=169&full=1 pretty
[08:00] <JeremyM> how does one do that?
[08:00] <synd> JeremyM: ubuntuguide.org
[08:00] <HappyFool> Razor-X: does \verb+command|blah+ not work ?
[08:00] <JeremyM> hey, cool
[08:00] <synd> !repos
[08:00] <JeremyM> thanks
[08:00] <ubotu> synd: Wish i knew
[08:00] <synd> !repo
[08:00] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, synd
[08:00] <HappyFool> even better, just use synaptic
[08:00] <Razor-X> HappyFool: hmmm, lshort told me to do \verb|blah|
[08:00] <synd> gah
[08:00] <dr_willis> ubuntu homepage has a huge wiki, and docs and links.
[08:00] <dr_willis> thenya could google for 'apt-get tutorial' also
[08:00] <HappyFool> Razor-X: the delimiting characters are arbitrary, afaik
[08:01] <Raskall> JeremyM: it's in universe. add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe" to your /etc/apt/sources.list, run "apt-get update" and "apt-get install vnc4server"
[08:01] <JeremyM> why isn't apt-get install vnc4server working?
[08:01] <HappyFool> Razor-X: though i guess '\' and ' ' won't work ;). I usually use +
[08:01] <JeremyM> ok, raskall
[08:01] <synd> JeremyM: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[08:01] <JeremyM> i'll try
[08:01] <Razor-X> HappyFool: hehe ;)
[08:01] <dr_willis> JeremyM,  your 'sources' are not set up to incude all of them.
[08:01] <synd> JeremyM: you need the right resources
[08:01] <JeremyM> i'm doing this all via ssh
[08:01] <Razor-X> HappyFool: well lshort said they're arbitrary also but... I tried parentheses and brackets, and no-go
[08:01] <xy77> JeremyM edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add the ones listed on ubuntuguide.org
[08:02] <synd> JeremyM: do what the url says, and then do sudo apt-get install vnc4server
[08:02] <synd> JeremyM: then it will work.
[08:02] <HappyFool> Razor-X: well, it would have to be \verb(foo(    -- if that works.
[08:02] <JeremyM> I'm trying what Raskall told me
[08:02] <JeremyM> and then if that doesn't work, i shall do the others
[08:02] <JeremyM> give me a few
[08:02] <Razor-X> HappyFool: ohhh... ahhh... hmmm
[08:03] <Razor-X> HappyFool: the parentheses have to be facing the same way
[08:03] <synd> JeremyM: and he toldyou what?
[08:03] <Razor-X> HappyFool: shoulda payed more attention to that -_-
[08:03] <HappyFool> Razor-X: has to be the same char
[08:04] <JeremyM> read up, synd
[08:04] <JeremyM> what's an alternative to vi?
[08:04] <JeremyM> i don't like it
[08:04] <HappyFool> JeremyM: try nano
[08:04] <JeremyM> ok
[08:04] <dr_willis> vi is worth learning. the basics of at least.
[08:04] <HappyFool> JeremyM: should be moderately easy to use
[08:04] <Razor-X> JeremyM: odd, I like vi meself ;)
[08:05] <kafeine> khm, just installed the new ati drivers
[08:05] <dr_willis> and thers proberly 100+ text editors out for linux. :P
[08:05] <kafeine> sweet.
[08:05] <Razor-X> HappyFool: trying to make a guide to introduce the beginner to the command-line
[08:05] <Bisclaveret> hehe
[08:05] <HappyFool> Razor-X: you're aware of the Bash-HOWTO on tldp.org ?
[08:05] <synd> JeremyM: Raskall |  JeremyM: and it is in ubuntu repos. so just apt-get install vnc4server
[08:05] <Razor-X> it includes an introduction section, basic comands, text editors, package managers, etc.
[08:05] <HappyFool> Razor-X: oh, this is ubuntu specific ?
[08:05] <Bisclaveret> i don't understand why people need to make a text editor that does virtually everything, but is poor at editing plaintext ;)
[08:05] <Razor-X> HappyFool: it's gonna be aimed more for the Ubuntu user
[08:05] <synd> JeremyM: is that what he told you to do?
[08:05] <Razor-X> yeah
[08:05] <JeremyM> cool..I just added that line
[08:05] <HappyFool> Razor-X: great
[08:06] <JeremyM> yes, and to add this: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe in sources.list
[08:06] <Razor-X> although, I _may_ increase scope later on, my first priority is the Ubuntu user
[08:06] <synd> JeremyM: indeed. you might as well add the rest of the resources as well.
[08:06] <Razor-X> 8 pages insofar ;)
[08:06] <JeremyM> ok
[08:06] <JeremyM> i will
[08:06] <synd> JeremyM: I take that youre new to ubuntu?
[08:06] <JeremyM> it's updating now
[08:06] <JeremyM> Good take on that one
[08:06] <JeremyM> ;-)
[08:07] <JeremyM> wooo, it's installing
[08:07] <synd> JeremyM: then, ubuntuguide.org has a lot of helpful HOWTOs for beginners.
[08:07] <JeremyM> thank's, Raskall and synd
[08:07] <Razor-X> if anyone wants, they can read a draft of the early guide
[08:08] <xy77> is anyone familiar with sound configuration? I don't get it. It used to work a few days ago and out of the blue it stopped. I like Ubuntu, but when it comes to sound, ...
[08:08] <JeremyM> what is the difference between Xvnc and Xvnc4
[08:08] <synd> xy77: do the soundfix
[08:08] <Razor-X> JeremyM: my own gide is not very complete, but can help you become more sure with the commandline
[08:08] <xy77> synd how do I do this?
[08:08] <synd> xy77: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[08:09] <JeremyM> ok, cool
[08:09] <xy77> synd I already did.
[08:09] <mortheres> join #ubuntu-fr
[08:09] <synd> xy77: eh? odd
[08:09] <hovinen> Aha! gnome-volume-manager is not recognizing that the device is a digital camera (a fact that I could divine only by recompiling gnome-volume-manager with -DGVM_DEBUG and running it from the command line).
[08:10] <Razor-X> JeremyM: here's my guide ;) http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/CLI.pdf
[08:10] <JeremyM> question, how does one setup vnc4server?
[08:10] <JeremyM> ok
[08:10] <JeremyM> nevermind, i have it setup
[08:10] <JeremyM> now, the moment of truth
[08:10] <synd> type sudo vnc4server
[08:10] <HappyFool> JeremyM: try looking in /usr/share/doc/vnc4server/
[08:11] <xy77> synd sound cards are recognised, unmuted and volume up... I don't get it...
[08:11] <synd> vnc is pretty cut and dry
[08:11] <JeremyM> hm, it says the server is running i think..
[08:11] <JeremyM> but, i cant connect
[08:11] <JeremyM> is it because I have an ssh session going?
[08:11] <JeremyM> oh nevermind
[08:11] <synd> xy77: no idea
[08:11] <JeremyM> wrong display number
[08:12] <JeremyM> blah, nevermind..it's still not working
[08:12] <dr_willis> ssh has nothing to do with all this :P
[08:12] <JeremyM> i assumed.
[08:12] <flyingpenguin_> ubuntu uses Gnome right?
[08:12] <synd> flyingpenguin_: yes
[08:12] <synd> by default
[08:12] <JeremyM> however, one can tunnel vnc through ssh, so I didn't know
[08:12] <flyingpenguin_> ty
[08:12] <xy77> flyingpenguin_ you can use kde or xfce if you like, but gnome's default.
[08:13] <ben2000xx> hi, i want my mouse button mapping script to start automaticaly when i start a x session. where do i have to put the script or command?
[08:13] <xy77> JeremyM if you have a firewall installed, it may be an issue.
[08:13] <synd> JeremyM: you have to have ports 5900 open
[08:13] <JeremyM> it's on my local network
[08:13] <JeremyM> no firewalls
[08:13] <HappyFool> ben2000xx: you can try ~/.gnomerc
[08:14] <ben2000xx> HappyFool, thnx
[08:14] <JeremyM> i guess I need a vnc.conf file
[08:15] <JeremyM> how do you make one of those puppies?
[08:15] <Seveas> JeremyM, system->preference->remote desktop
[08:15] <Seveas> there you can enable the vnc server
[08:15] <xy77> JeremyM my vnc.conf is empty
[08:15] <JeremyM> what are you talking about, Seveas?
[08:15] <dman> hi! anyone experiencing problems with the marillat repos??
[08:15] <armagon> hi
[08:16] <Seveas> dman, yes
[08:16] <xy77> JeremyM you will have to use the commandline commands.
[08:16] <Seveas> they are giving md5sum errors
[08:16] <armagon> i've got some q's for new install
[08:16] <JeremyM> xy77, how do you have it setup?
[08:16] <dman> yes!
[08:16] <ben2000xx> HappyFool, thnx man, that did the trick ;)
[08:16] <zyth> morning all
[08:16] <HappyFool> ben2000xx: cool
[08:16] <xy77> Seveas: JeremyM is on ssh, there's no system menu.
[08:16] <Seveas> mm
[08:16] <JeremyM> did you just do apt-get install vnc4server
[08:16] <JeremyM> and that's it
[08:16] <Rockett17> yeah I noticed the md5sum errors also
[08:16] <dman> Seveas: what seems to be the problem?
[08:16] <xy77> JeremyM did you try vncserver
[08:16] <JeremyM> and then ran vnc4server in /usr/bin
[08:16] <Seveas> JeremyM, if you are going to do remote X connections, you should look at freenx
[08:16] <JeremyM> vncserver is not in this variant
[08:17] <JeremyM> it's vnc4server
[08:17] <armagon> can i install ubuntu on a partition leaving /home intact?
[08:17] <Seveas> it's much faster than vnc
[08:17] <JeremyM> seveas...is it?
[08:17] <zyth> I have here a box with no monitor plugged into it.  Does anyone know how I can do a headless Ubuntu install on it w/o hooking up a monitor, keyboard, or mouse? ;)
[08:17] <Seveas> armagon, only if /home is on a separate partition
[08:17] <Seveas> JeremyM, definitely
[08:17] <JeremyM> I'd rather get vnc going first, rather than install that without it
[08:17] <JeremyM> it's headless
[08:17] <armagon> darn, / and /home are on the same partition here
[08:17] <JeremyM> and, is there a mac os x client?
[08:17] <Raptoid> i find video cd creator ..
[08:17] <Raptoid> help me..
[08:17] <Raptoid> ?
[08:17] <ciocanel> anyone here uses msn4lin?
[08:17] <dman> Seveas, Rockett17: im getting Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i38 6/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/testing/main/binary-i3 86/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[08:17] <Raptoid> i find video cd creator .. appz..
[08:17] <Raptoid> ?
[08:17] <armagon> Seveas, so what is the best alternative?
[08:17] <Seveas> dman, just wait for it to be solved
[08:17] <xy77> JeremyM try apt-get install vncserver
[08:18] <Raptoid> i find video cd creator .. appz..
[08:18] <zyth> Raptoid, I think K3b does that
[08:18] <JeremyM> haha, i probably should have
[08:18] <dman> Seveas, Rockett17: since about 2 weeks?
[08:18] <Seveas> armagon, backup home and restore it later
[08:18] <zyth> and quit repeating
[08:18] <Seveas> dman, then mail Christian...
[08:18] <Raptoid> k3b sux..
[08:18] <JeremyM> but, what about the current running vnc stuff
[08:18] <Raptoid> i find video cd creator .. appz..
[08:18] <zyth> oi vey
[08:18] <dman> Seveas: so its known and they are working on it?
[08:18] <Rockett17> dman> Yep, that has been happening for quite a while now. I just removed it from my repos
[08:18] <Seveas> JeremyM, if the box has no X stuff installed, you cannot run vnc too...
[08:18] <armagon> Seveas, ok thnx bye
[08:18] <xy77> JeremyM ps ax | grep -i vnc
[08:18] <HappyFool> Raptoid: try using synaptic's search feature
[08:19] <dman> Rockett17: me as well.
[08:19] <HappyFool> Raptoid: i see something called 'vcdimager' and 'vctools' which may be of interest
[08:19] <JeremyM> what's that, xy?
[08:19] <xy77>  JeremyM you can check if there's a vncserver running
[08:19] <JeremyM> yeah, there is
[08:19] <JeremyM> it's Xvnc
[08:19] <JeremyM> can i just top it
[08:19] <JeremyM> and kill it?
[08:19] <Raptoid> x appz
[08:19] <xy77> JeremyM then you should be able to connect to it.
[08:20] <Raptoid> consol sux
[08:20] <JeremyM> but you can't xy
[08:20] <JeremyM> it
[08:20] <JeremyM> it
[08:20] <JeremyM> sorry
[08:20] <xy77> on your local pc, try vncviewer ip:1
[08:20] <JeremyM> it's not letting me
[08:20] <JeremyM> i tried
[08:20] <JeremyM> not working
[08:20] <JeremyM> connection refused
[08:20] <xy77> JeremyM did you enter a password?
[08:20] <lars_> is it possible to copy the ubuntu istall CD onto the hard drive and install packages from there?
[08:20] <JeremyM> yes, i tried it
[08:21] <JeremyM> not working, still
[08:21] <JeremyM> and i tried :0 and :1
[08:21] <JeremyM> no go.
[08:21] <xy77> JeremyM tried root pwd? you should check whether port 5900 is open
[08:21] <JeremyM> how do you do that?
[08:21] <JeremyM> and yes, i tried root password..it's the same as my vnc pass
[08:21] <concept10> what is the dpkg option for querying an installed pkg?
[08:22] <HappyFool> concept10: do you want dpkg -l ?
[08:22] <concept10> HappyFool, does that check to see if a package is installed?
[08:22] <HappyFool> yeah, though i find the output a bit cryptic
[08:22] <xy77> JeremyM you have to consider the network configuration, routers, firewalls, etc.
[08:23] <HappyFool> as far as i know, 'ii' means installed
[08:23] <JeremyM> it's on my local network
[08:23] <JeremyM> there are no firewalls
[08:23] <JeremyM> it's connected to the same exact hub that this machine is connected to
[08:23] <JeremyM> there are no firewalls between there and here
[08:23] <JeremyM> ohhh
[08:23] <JeremyM> my bad
[08:23] <JeremyM> haha
[08:23] <JeremyM> it works now
[08:23] <JeremyM> i'm a retard
[08:24] <JeremyM> anyways
[08:24] <Rockett17> 0_o
[08:24] <JeremyM> why is the screen just gray
[08:24] <JeremyM> no menus or anything
[08:24] <JeremyM> there was a terminal, but nothing else
[08:25] <HappyFool> try running 'gnome-session' in the terminal
[08:25] <JeremyM> i closed the terminal
[08:25] <JeremyM> haha
[08:25] <JeremyM> oops, nevermind
[08:27] <ciocanel> where are the qt libs in ubuntu?
[08:28] <HappyFool> /usr/lib, at a guess -- assuming you've installed them
[08:28] <JeremyM> wooohooo
[08:28] <JeremyM> thank's guys
[08:28] <JeremyM> however, it's saying that there is already an x sever running on :0
[08:28] <JeremyM> how do i just get to that
[08:29] <concept10> Anyone know what "linux-headers" are in /usr/src?
[08:29] <ciocanel> HappyFool, yes, I've installed them, but I have only /usr/lib/qt3/plugins stuff... no library
[08:29] <xy77> JeremyM what was the problem?
[08:29] <JeremyM> wrong IP
[08:29] <JeremyM> :-D
[08:29] <JeremyM> i recently changed from 192.168.1.xxx
[08:29] <JeremyM> to 192.168.2.xxx
[08:29] <JeremyM> haha
[08:30] <JeremyM> what does
[08:30] <JeremyM> failed request with status:000 mean
[08:30] <JeremyM> 0000*
[08:30] <JDigital> updating to hoary...
[08:30] <JDigital> if I don't return, the install failed
[08:31] <JeremyM> is samba installed on a default install?
[08:31] <HappyFool> concept10: not clear what your question is about... what are you trying to do?
[08:32] <isai> hello
[08:33] <JeremyM> hm,nevermind
[08:33] <JeremyM> why isn't my cdrom ejecting
[08:33] <xy77> JeremyM apt-cache search samba
[08:33] <xy77> JeremyM and then apt-get install <any-samba-packages>
[08:33] <JeremyM> why isn't my cdrom opening
[08:33] <JeremyM> its got power
[08:33] <VincentMX> how do you set the apt resources in warty?
[08:33] <JeremyM> worked last night
[08:33] <xy77> JeremyM cdrom mounted?
[08:33] <HappyFool> i think samba might well be installed
[08:34] <xy77> well, I have to leave, see you later maybe.
[08:34] <concept10> HappyFool, im about to compile a kernel, I was curious what linux-headers are
[08:34] <HappyFool> VincentMX: in Synaptic, look at Settings -> Repositories
[08:34] <HappyFool> concept10: there's a linux-headers package which is needed for compiling kernel modules corresponding to a particular ubuntu kernel image
[08:35] <HappyFool> concept10: it include C header files (.h files) and kernel config information
[08:35] <isai> I installed ubuntu in english, but now want it in spanish (the text not the keyboard). Do I have to re-install and choose spanish?
[08:36] <x_or> Can anyone help me set up a reverse SSH tunnel for HTTPS?  I'm trying this from a machine inside a firewall to my home machine without much luck:   ssh -R 9876:localhost:443 user@host.com
[08:36] <martin_> (ich noob) wie kann ich auf die anderen partitionen zugreiffen? (bitte keine haue!!! :-) )
[08:36] <HappyFool> JeremyM: try unmounting the cdrom: 'sudo umount /media/cdrom0'
[08:36] <DanielC> Hello, is it safe to upgrade from Warty to Hoary? I'm concerned about moving to X.org and having X not work.
[08:36] <talamod> I'm on Ubuntu and I have the nvidia drivers installed now: would adding Driver "nvidia" in xorg.conf be sufficient + a GDM restart?
[08:36] <HappyFool> martin_: please try #ubuntu-de for deutsch :)
[08:37] <martin_> #ubuntu-de
[08:37] <isai> is there a #ubuntu-es ?
[08:37] <VincentMX> try
[08:37] <DanielC> isai: si :)
[08:37] <VincentMX> espaniol?
[08:37] <HappyFool> martin_: try '/join #ubuntu-de'
[08:38] <VincentMX> or italiano
[08:38] <VincentMX> ?
[08:38] <DanielC> VincentMX: Espanol.
[08:38] <isai> yup its there, just not very many people. :(
[08:38] <HappyFool> DanielC: i think it's pretty safe. i guess you could do some googling for your particular hardware
[08:38] <VincentMX> ok
[08:38] <martin_> i made it. thanks! bye!
[08:38] <VincentMX> bye
[08:38] <HappyFool> isai: sorry, i can't see how to do localization
[08:39] <HappyFool> isai: i'm sure it shouldn't be that hard
[08:39] <DanielC> HappyFool: Ok. I don't have any unusual hardware. I'm google around though.
[08:40] <ben2000xx> what do i need to install to be able to compile a new nvidia grapics driver?
[08:41] <HappyFool> isai: ah-ha! i think the packages in question are language-pack-es, language-pack-es-base and language-support-es, though i'm not sure which is which
[08:41] <HappyFool> ben2000xx: build-essential and linux-headers-386 ( or -686, -k7, depending on your kernel)
[08:42] <HappyFool> ben2000xx: does the ubuntu provided package not work ?
[08:43] <isai> HappyFool: okay I have those installed now. How do I activate them?
[08:44] <HappyFool> isai: not sure.... i'm looking at the config now
[08:44] <karamazof> hi
[08:45] <karamazof> I have mounted my ntfs partition using /etc/fstab, but only root can get acces, $
[08:46] <karamazof> and once it is mounted, I can't change permissions on it.
[08:46] <HappyFool> karamazof: i think you just need a 'umask=000' (or maybe 'umask=222' or something) in the fourth field (i.e., <options>)
[08:47] <Triffid_Hunter> yeah that's normal karamazof.. here's one of the lines from my fstab for an ntfs partition.. /dev/hdb1               /winmnt/d               ntfs            ro,noatime,umask=0007,gid=winmounters   0 0
[08:47] <Triffid_Hunter> it allows users in the 'winmounters' group to access the mount
[08:48] <karamazof> ok I'll try some of these propositions
[08:49] <HappyFool> isai: i can't tell how to make a different language active... i'm going to install the afrikaans pack to see if can do it
[08:49] <infralite> is it just me, or is my ubuntu setup cd booting live?
[08:50] <Bisclaveret> hrm. how do i erase my cd-rw?
[08:50] <Bisclaveret> furthermore, i know it has stuff on it, but i can't see what is on it and when i place it in, it tells me it's a blank cd-rw on the desktop
[08:52] <alxwind> guys, how can i install programm from .sh archive? double click doesn't work in my case
[08:52] <zyth> aleksi, open terminal, sh blah.sh
[08:53] <karamazof> still no acces
[08:53] <karamazof> /dev/hda1       /media/winXP    ntfs    ro,noatime,umask=0007,gid=1000  0 0
[08:53] <kafeine> mm
[08:53] <kafeine> guys
[08:53] <kafeine> anyone with a working install of ut2003 here?
[08:53] <alxwind> oh, thank you
[08:53] <zyth> alxwind, np.
[08:56] <zwart> hello all
[08:57] <rrittenhouse> I imaged an ubuntu box and now when it starts up it just says GRUB and it freezes up.. what is the cause of this?
[08:57] <rrittenhouse> I was thinking that GRUB didnt copy over correctly when we imaged it with ghost...?
[08:57] <rrittenhouse> and imagecast...
[08:58] <zwart> sounds like grub is there but not the conf files
[08:58] <rrittenhouse> is there any way to fix that that you know of?
[08:59] <zwart> is your /boot on a seperate partition that got destroyed or something?
[08:59] <rrittenhouse> theres only a / and a swap
[09:00] <zwart> does the file /boot/menu.lst exist?
[09:00] <zwart> /boot/grub/menu.lst rather
[09:00] <cyphase> hey everyone
[09:00] <rrittenhouse> i really cant tell
[09:00] <zwart> that is where grub looks for your info
[09:01] <zwart> type "less /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[09:01] <rrittenhouse> it gets stuck at the grub prompt :-(
[09:01] <rrittenhouse> and freezes
[09:02] <zwart> well you will need a live cd or something so you can mount your drives and fix the problem, if you dont want to reinstall
[09:02] <rrittenhouse> hmm yea... ok well ill boot off of a live cd and whatnot and come back in here.. probably next week.. thanks a lot.
[09:02] <JeremyM> thanks for all the help, guys
[09:02] <JeremyM> im out of here
[09:02] <JeremyM> adios
[09:02] <rrittenhouse> yea thanks :)
[09:02] <sparkling> hi all
[09:03] <zwart> im having some problems mounting my ntfs drive
[09:03] <sparkling> is there someone that have tried to install new ati drivers with flavio stanchina howto?
[09:04] <zwart> well the permissions actually, i "chmod 0666 /media/win1" then "mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/win1" and it mounts, but i cant access it through the filebrowser
[09:04] <HappyFool> zwart: you need -o umask=000
[09:05] <raz> Anybody got Timidity working w/ Emacs interface?
[09:05] <zwart> when i mount you mean/?
[09:05] <HappyFool> zwart: yeah
[09:05] <HappyFool> add that after the '-t ntfs'
[09:05] <hugos> Hi. I am trying to install locales but I cant. I get the error saying "The following packages have unmet dependencies: locales: Depends: glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13
[09:05] <zwart> thanks
[09:05] <hugos> what should I do?
[09:06] <klaym> what's the easiest way to setup a bluetooth connection between my computer (usb dongle) and Nokia 6600? which programs should I apt-get?
[09:06] <HappyFool> hugos: what local packae is that?
[09:06] <hugos> HappyFool, I just did apt-get install locales
[09:06] <HappyFool> klaym: at a guess, gnome-bluetooth  -- haven't got round to trying it myself
[09:06] <klaym> ok thx
[09:07] <HappyFool> hugos: hm
[09:07] <isai> hi all, I got the spanish language on my desktop.
[09:07] <thechitowncubs> What is the command to reconfigure Xorg?
[09:08] <HappyFool> isai: great. how'd you get it right?
[09:08] <HappyFool> thechitowncubs: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:08] <HappyFool> hugos: i have locales installed, and libc6
[09:09] <hugos> HappyFool, I also have libc6 installed
[09:09] <isai> dpkg-reconfigure locales, only selected spanish languages (not english), and then set default to es_MX. Then set GDM to spanish Mexico on relogin.
[09:10] <HappyFool> isai: cool
[09:10] <hugos> HappyFool, and thing the package I need is on the libc6 package.. because I checked the files inside libc6 package.. and glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 was there
[09:10] <gnuyen> hi guys, how do you tell if a usb drive is connected via usb2.0 or usb 1.0
[09:10] <gnuyen> and how do you get gnome-volume-manager to start on load
[09:10] <allyn> gnuyen do you use gnome as desktop?
[09:11] <gnuyen> allyn, yes
[09:11] <firasR> gnuyen:  try checking /var/log/messages
[09:11] <allyn> ok then  go to system menu -prefresnces-sessions then startup programs for gnome volume manafger
[09:11] <gnuyen> firasR, i dmesged and it showed stuff but nothing about what it was connected at
[09:11] <HappyFool> hugos: how do you mean 'glibc-2.3.2...' was there ?
[09:12] <HappyFool> hugos: oh, i see that libc6 *provides* glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13
[09:12] <firasR> gnuyen:  it's best to do a tail -f /var/log/messages then plug the drive in
[09:12] <gnuyen> firasR, I see the stuff about the drive being connected
[09:12] <gnuyen> firasR, I just don't see anything about what speed it connected at
[09:13] <isai> thanks everyone, now I have to get back to work... :P
[09:13] <hugos> HappyFool, apt-cache showpkg libc6|grep glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13   and it returned the name of the file! Dont know what to do! DO you have any idea?
[09:13] <HappyFool> hugos: are you running breezy or do you have any non-ubuntu repositories in your sources.list ?
[09:14] <hugos> HappyFool, hoary here! And no, I have no other repositories. Just the original ones.. but pt.archive.... because I am in Portugal
[09:14] <HappyFool> hugos: i hope the mirror doesn't matter
[09:15] <HappyFool> hugos: hm
[09:15] <firasR> gnuyen:  strange, in dmesg i get the following when i plugin my flash drive: drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.0:USB HID core driver
[09:16] <firasR> gnuyen:  in messages i get kernel: usb 5-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address
[09:16] <HappyFool> hugos: what's the output of     dpkg -p libc6|grep '^Version'   ?
[09:17] <firasR> gnuyen:  so u should get some indication of whether it's a v2.0 or high speed USB device
[09:17] <hugos> HappyFool,  Version: 2.3.2.ds1-22 <--:|
[09:17] <HappyFool> hugos: erk
[09:18] <justdave> isn't partman supposed to be able to resize partitions?
[09:18] <HappyFool> hugos: i'm no guru, but that looks like a debian package
[09:18] <hugos> HappyFool,  :|
[09:18] <hugos> :S
[09:18] <isai> bye
[09:18] <|Lupin|> Hi again, folks.
[09:18] <hugos> HappyFool, I will try to remove libc6 and install it again
[09:18] <firasR> hi |Lupin|
[09:18] <justdave> trying to install on a Powerbook, and I don't see any option for resizing the existing partitions.  Thought I'd remembered seeing a way to do that in the past.
[09:19] <r3d0xXuS> hi i need help: how can i my nvidia agp rate from 4x to 8x forcing?
[09:19] <r3d0xXuS> hi Seveas :D
[09:19] <justdave> (This is Hoary that I'm trying to install)
[09:19] <|Lupin|> I'd like to report some typos found on www.ubuntulinux.org. Is someone responsible for this site connected, please ?
[09:19] <HappyFool> hugos: eek
[09:20] <HappyFool> hugos: how will your system run without libc?
[09:20] <r3d0xXuS>  hi i need help: how can i my nvidia agp rate from 4x to 8x forcing?
[09:20] <firasR> r3d0xXuS:  try adding this line
[09:20] <firasR> r3d0xXuS:  Option          "AGPMode" "4"
[09:20] <hugos> HappyFool, dont know :D so what now?! what should I do..
[09:20] <r3d0xXuS> ok ill try
[09:21] <firasR> r3d0xXuS:  to ur xorg.conf under the section device for ur display adapter
[09:21] <HappyFool> justdave: i may be wrong, but i don't think the ubuntu installer has a partition resizing option -- it's probably too risky
[09:21] <wizzard> hi there, it is possible to change the resolution while running XWindows with ATI fglrx driver?
[09:21] <|Lupin|> (I a responsible for www.ubuntulinux.org, please /query me since I'm blind and can't follow the chan... too active)
[09:21] <r3d0xXuS> ok
[09:21] <r3d0xXuS> ill try
[09:21] <r3d0xXuS> need xserver restart this?
[09:21] <thechitowncubs> I installed Ubuntu on my sisters friends computer using my monitor but when she hooked it up using her monitor and now her xserver is messed up
[09:21] <HappyFool> hugos: i don't know, sorry
[09:21] <r3d0xXuS> after xconf
[09:21] <r3d0xXuS> xorg.conf
[09:22] <hugos> hugos, thanks anyway ;)
[09:22] <thechitowncubs> Is there anything I could reconfigure?
[09:22] <justdave> HappyFool: actually, I just found it, poking around, but it only offers it on the Mac driver partition.  It's not offered as a choice on the hfs+ partition.
[09:22] <r3d0xXuS> firasR
[09:22] <justdave> so probably they decided it was risky on hfs+ or something
[09:22] <r3d0xXuS> firasR: after this must i restart xserver ?
[09:22] <zwart> thechi: you need to reconfigure x
[09:22] <thechitowncubs> because the dpkp-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:22] <firasR> r3d0xXuS:  yeah, just do a ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:24] <Bisclaveret> hrmp
[09:24] <Bisclaveret> doing that thing last night didn't help with the sound issue i'm having
[09:24] <thechitowncubs> zwart: is there an automatic reconfigure I can do that the install does?
[09:24] <thechitowncubs> because I don't know if my sister is capable
[09:26] <alxwind> does anyone have experience with installing cracked Windows games with cedega?
[09:26] <zwart> i had the same prob. before, before the switch to xorg and i used xf86config and that worked
[09:27] <zwart> but xf86config dosnt seem to exist in xorg so i dunno
[09:27] <alxwind> i have a regfile that i usually import into windows registry in order to lunch the game, but i can't do it with cedega?
[09:27] <alxwind> any ideas?
[09:27] <gnuyen> mine doesn't say v2.0
[09:27] <gnuyen> it does say high speed device
[09:28] <gnuyen> but that could be 1.1 right?
[09:29] <HyperZid> where can I download the ubuntu iso?
[09:29] <|Lupin|> Please, how to obtain information about the different versions of a given package which come with different Ubuntu distributions ?
[09:29] <lars_> www.ubuntu.com
[09:29] <r3d0xXuS> firasR
[09:29] <r3d0xXuS> firasR: still agp 4x oO
[09:29] <alxwind> does anyone have experience with installing cracked Windows games with cedega?
[09:30] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> what's a good file browser in kde ?
[09:30] <Riddell> Pop_pa_FrEaK: konqueror
[09:30] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> how do I enable it for root ?
[09:30] <HyperZid> anyone can recommend which release I should use... in diffrent situasions?
[09:30] <manuel_> konqueror very fast
[09:30] <firasR> r3d0xXuS:  u sure it's enabled in the bios ?
[09:30] <alxwind> does anyone have experience with installing cracked Windows games under  Linux with cedega?
[09:30] <Riddell> Pop_pa_FrEaK: you can edit files as root with the right click menu
[09:30] <thechitowncubs> The error they are getting is: Fatal server error: No screens found
[09:30] <r3d0xXuS> firasR: its 8x enabled yes
[09:30] <HappyFool> HyperZid: use the current release, hoary
[09:31] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> ok thanx Riddell
[09:32] <HyperZid> HappyFool, thanks.. then i'll try out ubuntu in a while:)
[09:32] <alxwind> i can't believe that all of you play only frozen bubbles
[09:32] <r3d0xXuS> what to do now @ firasR
[09:32] <thechitowncubs> How can I find out what slot my PCI card
[09:32] <HappyFool> alxwind: no, also nethack
[09:33] <thechitowncubs> AGP video card is on
[09:33] <alxwind> lol
[09:33] <alxwind> what about installing windows games with cedega?
[09:33] <HappyFool> thechitowncubs: maybe with lspci, but i'm not sure
[09:33] <alxwind> any advices?
[09:33] <HappyFool> sorry, i've never tried it. i boot windows when i play windows game ;)
[09:33] <JDigital> Hey, Ubuntu hasn't crashed
[09:33] <Gandalfar> How come:   Failed to fetch http://si.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xlibmesa-glu-dev_6.8.2-10_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[09:34] <firasR> r3d0xXuS:  not sure what else to try
[09:34] <JDigital> and I'm still using the same nvidia drivers
[09:34] <JDigital> how come
[09:34] <alxwind> ok HappyFool 10x, i will keep looking
[09:34] <HappyFool> Gandalfar: probably just a temporary glitch, try again
[09:34] <alxwind>  does anyone have experience with installing cracked Windows games under  Linux with cedega?
[09:35] <r3d0xXuS> firasR: my problem is: if i play et or q3 or any games it will not constant my fps also like not 100 fps constant it like 100 fps for 1 sec then cooldown in 50 fps for 2 sec then again 100 fps and so going on
[09:35] <|Lupin|> Is there a comprehensive list of names associate with Ubuntu distros, pls ?
[09:35] <alxwind> i have a regfile that i usually import into windows registry in order to lunch the game, but i can't do it with cedega
[09:36] <alxwind> any ideas?
[09:36] <Gandalfar> HappyFool: funny :) Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xlibmesa-glu-dev_6.8.2-10_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[09:37] <HappyFool> Gandalfar: there appears to be an error on the repository
[09:37] <Gandalfar> HappyFool: who can I bug?
[09:37] <_raw> If there exists a linuxrc script in initrd will it execute everytime the kernel boots??
[09:37] <HappyFool> Gandalfar: not me ;) sorry, i'm not sure who's reponsible. also, it's past working hours in the uk, where i think the archive is hosted
[09:38] <r3d0xXuS> firasR ?!
[09:38] <taomaster> how do u install from live cd?
[09:38] <HappyFool> taomaster: i don't think you can. you need the install cd
[09:38] <taomaster> i'm trying gnoppix
[09:38] <r3d0xXuS> knoppix oO
[09:39] <taomaster> no gnoppix
[09:39] <r3d0xXuS> i dunno this lol
[09:39] <taomaster> ok
[09:39] <Echylo> g is too far from the k to be a typo :P
[09:39] <r3d0xXuS> k hrhr
[09:39] <taomaster> hehe
[09:39] <HappyFool> taomaster: this is #ubuntu -- try maybe #knoppix or #gnoppix ?
[09:39] <JDigital> hum.
[09:39] <r3d0xXuS> ...
[09:40] <JDigital> Well, I updated to Hoary. Why are my trashcan icon and "desktop" icon on the bottom bar not working?
[09:40] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> hmmm can't seem to be able to edit the sources.list
[09:40] <taomaster> www.gnoppix.org/
[09:41] <taomaster> gnoppix is based on ubuntu
[09:41] <VRH> how i can insert a new predefined document in create new document when i do right click inthe desktop?
[09:41] <thotypous> the old gnoppix isn't
[09:42] <thechitowncubs> My sister's friends computer is borked because x can't start, do you guys have any tips for fixing it? I went through reconfiguring it like 10 times with her but it still doesn't start
[09:42] <taomaster> this is a new distro
[09:43] <zukalk> thechitowncubs, what exactly happens when you start up?
[09:43] <taomaster> well thx anyway- : )
[09:44] <taomaster> i'll figure it out
[09:44] <VRH> how i can insert a new predefined document in create new document when i do right click inthe desktop?
[09:44] <Stephen> hey
[09:44] <jazzka> hi everybody!
[09:44] <Stephen> anyone mind giving me a hand with postfix?
[09:44] <JDigital> Hey guys
[09:45] <thechitowncubs> zukalk: it fails to startx
[09:45] <JDigital> my lunix hasn't crashed yet
[09:45] <JDigital> will it?
[09:45] <zukalk> thechitowncubs, just like that? i don't know much about x, so i can't really help you
[09:45] <thechitowncubs> i can't tell you because the computer is not in my hands, its in my sisters
[09:45] <jazzka> I've burned a dvd-rw, and now, I want to erase it. I do that with: "cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom blank=all" but I get:  This drive or media does not support the 'BLANK media' command
[09:45] <jazzka> cdrecord: Cannot blank disk, aborting.
[09:45] <thechitowncubs> and i was trying to troubleshoot over the phone
[09:45] <jazzka> any idea?
[09:46] <|Lupin|> jazzka: Excuse such a silly question, but Are you sure zour CD is indeed rewritable ?
[09:46] <zukalk> thechitowncubs, i'd say you should come back in a couple of hours, when more people can help. i'm a newbie myself
[09:46] <thechitowncubs> Alright...
[09:46] <zukalk> meanwhile, ask more questions to your sis
[09:47] <thechitowncubs> i'll try again in a bit
[09:47] <jazzka> |Lupin|, yes, I'm sure
[09:47] <tolstoy> X broken on latest breezy for other folks too?
[09:47] <zukalk> thechitowncubs, get as many details as you can
[09:47] <|Lupin|> jazzka: look for a verbosity flag like -v in the man page for cdrecord and use it, it may help.
[09:47] <metzen> whats the name of a good os x dock clone for linux?
[09:47] <Gandalfar> metzen: superkaramba
[09:48] <HappyFool> Stephen: what do you want to know?
[09:48] <metzen> Gandalfar: thanks
[09:49] <Stephen> I can't use it, /etc/init.d/postfix start says it starts successfully but when I try to do anything I get
[09:49] <Stephen>  *stfix/postfix-script: fatal: the Postfix mail system is not running    [fail] 
[09:49] <tolstoy> /etc/init.d/gdm restart # does nothing!
[09:50] <zukalk> tolstoy, well stop and start it :P
[09:51] <terry> i get: Child terminated with 1 status when ever i try to run update manager and login as root
[09:51] <tolstoy> zukalk: :)
[09:52] <lamont__> Stephen: /var/log/mail.log will have more information on why it's dying
[09:52] <Stephen> OK thanks
[09:53] <Stephen> Jun 16 20:43:27 localhost postfix/master[8095] : fatal: /etc/postfix/master.cf: line 84: bad hostname or network address: ::1
[09:53] <Stephen> thats cause I've disabled IPv6 right?
[09:54] <Stephen> thats it! thanks lamont__
[09:56] <sinope> anyone know what the deal is with manpages under ubuntu?
[09:56] <lars_> sinope - they exist. ?
[09:56] <Stephen> what do you mean?
[09:58] <sinope> they are sort of screwed up
[09:58] <sinope> hyphens and symbols and such
[09:58] <sinope>                  are arguments after the string, they are assigned to the positional  parame?
[09:58] <sinope>                  ters, starting with $0.
[09:58] <Zindar> sinope: do you have the wrong charset or something?
[09:58] <sinope> that's from the bash manpage.
[09:59] <sinope> i suppose it's possible.... how/where would i change that
[09:59] <Seveas> sinope, make sure you have a UTF8 locale
[09:59] <Seveas> sinope, dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:59] <Stephen> hmmm
[09:59] <sinope> locale
[09:59] <sinope> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[09:59] <Seveas> make sure you set a UTF8 locale as default
[09:59] <chombee> sinope - man bash looks fine to me
[09:59] <Zindar> and make sure you don't have LESS_CHARSET set (if I remember that right)
[09:59] <Stephen> email sent to stephen@localhost.localdomain via PHP are delivered to www-data@localhost.localdomain
[09:59] <Stephen> any idea why?
[09:59] <sinope> Zindar: i don't
[09:59] <sinope> Zindar: nor anything with less or char
[10:00] <chombee> Stephen - have you configured sendmail or anything yourself?
[10:00] <Zindar> well.. do the dpkg-reconfigure and try again
[10:00] <Zindar> looks good here
[10:00] <lamont__> Stephen: and yes, just comment that line out in /etc/postfix/master.cf
[10:00] <sinope> Zindar: okay
[10:00] <Stephen> i ran dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[10:00] <Stephen> ah thanks, will take a look
[10:01] <sinope> Zindar: okay, i'm setting en_US.UTF-8 to default locale
[10:01] <sinope> cripes, not fixed.
[10:01] <metzen> does superkaramba work correctly in gnome? im getting these big black boxes in areas that seem like they should be transpearant
[10:03] <Seveas> sinope, what heppens if you try this command:
[10:03] <Seveas> LANG=en_US.UTF8 LC_ALL=en_US.UTF8 man bash
[10:03] <sinope> Seveas: still doesn't work.
[10:04] <sinope> hmm, could it be my rxvt?
[10:04] <Seveas> maybe rxvt doesn't support unicode
[10:04] <sinope> nope, console doesn't work either
[10:04] <sinope> ah HA! but xterm does.
[10:04] <Seveas> :)
[10:04] <sinope> :P
[10:04] <sinope> so it's an rxvt setting
[10:04] <sinope> thanks dudes
[10:05] <sinope> ...and possibly dudettes
[10:05] <Seveas> good luck finding the setting
[10:05] <darkmark> \exit
[10:06] <HappyFool> that's /part to you
[10:09] <JDigital> I think hoary has sneakily changed my fonts on me
[10:10] <JDigital> I don't remember Bitstream Vera Sans being this narrow
[10:11] <chombee> Is there any way to find out the username without being able to login?
[10:11] <Gandalfar> chombee: no
[10:11] <alxwind> does anyone have experience with installing cracked Windows games under  Linux with cedega?
[10:12] <alxwind> i have a regfile that i usually import into windows registry in order to lunch the game, but i can't do it with cedega?
[10:12] <chombee> Gandaldar - and I suppose I can't login as root, or activate the root account either?
[10:12] <alxwind> any ideas?
[10:12] <dreaddydave> wrong forum
[10:12] <Gandalfar> chombee: root is disabled by default
[10:12] <HappyFool> chombee: you can boot in rescue mode
[10:12] <JDigital> does warty change the fonts or what
[10:12] <JDigital> er
[10:12] <JDigital> hoary
[10:12] <Zindar> alxwind: ubuntu is not about pirate software.. try someplace else.....
[10:13] <eruin> alxwind, buy the game
[10:13] <JDigital> I'd ask on the forums but I've asked three questions there this year and got no successful response
[10:13] <alxwind> lol
[10:13] <JDigital> which game is it, out of interest
[10:13] <alxwind> never
[10:13] <chombee> HappyFool - how? Will this enable me to get the login name?
[10:13] <eruin> damnit, dbus keeps CRASHING
[10:13] <alxwind> that'smy credo
[10:13] <HappyFool> chombee: well, you can take a look at /etc/passwd (or just /home), so yes
[10:14] <chombee> HappyFool - great, thanks
[10:14] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> alxwind, how old are you ?
[10:14] <HappyFool> chombee: it'll also let you reset that user's password
[10:14] <alxwind> anyway, the question was not about pirate software, but importing regfile in cedega?
[10:14] <chombee> HappyFool - how to access this mode?
[10:14] <alxwind> does it make any difference for you? ;)
[10:14] <eruin> it was a question about pirate software :P
[10:14] <eruin> we don't condone it
[10:14] <alxwind> no, it wasn't
[10:14] <HappyFool> chombee: reboot, press 'ESC' when prompted (very early in the boot process)
[10:14] <Gandalfar> alxwind: use #cedega, it's commercial sw anyway, use their tech support
[10:14] <eruin> "installing cracked windows games" ?
[10:14] <eruin> :P
[10:15] <JDigital> the question was about "cracked" software, that makes it sound like piracy
[10:15] <HappyFool> chombee: you should get a boot menu. select 'rescue mode'
[10:15] <nJess> heh
[10:15] <chombee> HappyFool - recovery mode, thanks
[10:15] <nJess> im running some weird hybrid of KDE and gnome
[10:15] <JDigital> man, either I'm paranoid or someone's changed all the fonts
[10:15] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> alxwind, you won't get an answer for that type of question in an open source community
[10:15] <HappyFool> chombee: err, or that ;)
[10:15] <alxwind> in my case that was nocd patch but not stealing smth, see the difference?
[10:15] <chombee> JDigital - did you just upgrade or something?
[10:15] <nJess> half my icons are gnome icons, the other half are KDE icond
[10:15] <nJess> icons*
[10:16] <eruin> anyone else experiencing stuff like this in hoary? : http://pastebin.com/300569
[10:16] <nJess> its weird
[10:16] <terry> found it...visudo - add user
[10:16] <JDigital> yes
[10:16] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> cedega doesn't take imports of windows based regfiles
[10:16] <zwart> i can't find azureus in the repositories, am i blind? or is it just not there anymnore...
[10:16] <JDigital> warty -> hoaryt
[10:16] <JDigital> *hoary
[10:16] <JDigital> I've been putting it off
[10:16] <eruin> alxwind, if you have lost your cd, mail the company and get a new one
[10:17] <eruin> most distributors do that free of charge
[10:17] <chombee> JDigital - it could be that your font anti-aliasing etc settings have changed during the upgrade
[10:17] <eruin> that is, if you have a valid key
[10:17] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> all you need is your legal serial #
[10:17] <JDigital> Nah, I tried fiddling with those, the xchat font looks different
[10:17] <JDigital> maybe it changed the font to the default one when it upgraded
[10:18] <zwart> is there any multiple-torrent clients for ubuntu like azureus? i hate having to have a seperate window for each file
[10:18] <chombee> JDigital - I don't think that's normal. Did you have XChat set to a non-default font?
[10:18] <JDigital> It might have, I can't remember.
[10:18] <nalioth> zwart: check sourceforge.net
[10:18] <chombee> zwart - you ca apt-get azureus
[10:18] <JDigital> firefox's fonts look different too
[10:19] <JDigital> although that might just be because of the version
[10:19] <JDigital> I dunno.
[10:19] <dgtl> anyone know where to change the background color that appears when you're logging in?
[10:19] <nalioth_wrkn> zwart: there are dozens of torrent clients there
[10:19] <metzen> is it possible to hide the handle grips on the side of a panel, when the panel is put into "non expanded" mode
[10:19] <metzen> i would like to have a transparent background on the panel, without the side grips which are white-grey and opaque from my gtk theme
[10:19] <chombee> zwart - google for the Ubuntu Hoaru 5.04 Starter guide, azureus is in there
[10:19] <zwart> "E: Couldn't find package azureus"
[10:19] <metzen> im refering to the gnome desktop panels
[10:20] <zwart> i have universe multiverse and marillat added, but the only torrent clients that show up are the standard one, bit tornado, and a couple for kde
[10:20] <Majlo> zwart, You must add backport repository
[10:20] <ced__> I have a question...I installed the hoary livecd for am64 (md5 hashes are the same)...everything loads up fine but I can't access the internet correctly
[10:21] <chombee> zwart - azureus is probably in a non-default package repository, instructions are in the Starters Guide
[10:21] <zwart> ahh
[10:21] <zwart> ok thanks
[10:21] <ced__> DHCP assigns ip addresses correctly and whatnot
[10:21] <Majlo> zwart, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[10:21] <ced__> I can connect to an irc server, but the only website that works for me is google.com for some reason
[10:21] <synd> zwart: ubuntuguide.org tells you how to get azureus
[10:22] <chombee> Okay - can anyone help me with a wireless configuration? I suspect I may need to dl and compile a driver (which means I'm screwed) but lets find out for sure...
[10:22] <DanielC> Hello, where could I go to better understand the meaning of the word "Ubuntu" ?
[10:22] <chombee> iwconfig detects the card as wlan0
[10:22] <synd> chombee: what brand/model is it
[10:22] <chombee> but it evidently is not configured as I can't ping google
[10:22] <chombee> synd - D-Link DWL-650+
[10:23] <synd> ah, i have a dlink dwl
[10:23] <abarbaccia> hey, anybody here use lirc?  i'm having trouble starting the daemon at bootup because i deleted its startup script
[10:23] <chombee> synd - was it supported or did you need a driver?
[10:24] <jhave> Hi
[10:24] <jhave> how do i enable framebuffer ?
[10:24] <JDigital> DanielC: "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others". The Ubuntu Linux distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world.
[10:24] <zukalk> daniel, a good startpoint: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu
[10:24] <StellarPrince> whats the big deal with ubuntu?
[10:24] <eruin> DanielC, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu
[10:24] <synd> chombee: i had to use the driver + ndiswrapper
[10:25] <StellarPrince> i didnt see nothing special
[10:25] <StellarPrince> synd what kernel do u have?
[10:25] <chombee> synd - bad news for me
[10:25] <eruin> too bad StellarPrince
[10:25] <DanielC> zukalk, eruin: Thanks. :-)
[10:25] <synd> StellarPrince: what?
[10:25] <StellarPrince> eruin i have slckware
[10:25] <StellarPrince> and has more things
[10:25] <synd> StellarPrince: then stick with slackware
[10:25] <StellarPrince> than ubuntu
[10:25] <StellarPrince> so i dont understand
[10:25] <tiglionabbit> I put in my exact printer model and it fails the test page
[10:25] <tiglionabbit> what should I do?
[10:25] <eruin> StellarPrince, good for you
[10:25] <StellarPrince> no...
[10:25] <StellarPrince> that's not the point
[10:26] <StellarPrince> i just wanna
[10:26] <synd> StellarPrince: distrowatch.com
[10:26] <StellarPrince> know
[10:26] <StellarPrince> why ubuntu is so powerful
[10:26] <tiglionabbit> =[
[10:26] <synd> StellarPrince: ease of use
[10:26] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: what model?
[10:26] <synd> is what it boils down to
[10:26] <Hablandocontigo> I _need_ to encode a wav file to 64kbps wma and rm files, how can I do that?
[10:26] <eruin> StellarPrince, because it's desktop-oriented and aims for everything to 'just work'
[10:26] <eruin> like a desktop distro should
[10:26] <tiglionabbit> HP Deskjet 920c.  It worked perfectly with hoary unstable array 4
[10:26] <Razor-X> StellarPrince: packing quite a few useful things in a CD, easy to configure, great package manager, etc.
[10:26] <StellarPrince> ohh i'm seeing
[10:26] <synd> chombee: not really
[10:26] <Razor-X> it's Debian, and it does everything that Debian did wrong, right
[10:27] <synd> chombee: its really easy
[10:27] <StellarPrince> so i agree it's very useful
[10:27] <synd> so whats your problem, StellarPrince ?
[10:27] <StellarPrince> synd i cant install ndiswrapper under kernel 2.6.11
[10:27] <StellarPrince> .X
[10:27] <rancorus> hey, i have problems using my hp printer on linux.
[10:27] <synd> StellarPrince: you are chombee ?
[10:28] <chombee> synd - I cannot get ndiswrapper onto the laptop, and I can't get the compilers or kernel source either
[10:28] <StellarPrince> chombee? (just a sec for i check in the dicionary :x)
[10:28] <chombee> synd - no he isn't
[10:28] <StellarPrince> ahh
[10:28] <StellarPrince> :X
[10:28] <zukalk> lol
[10:28] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: it should be natively included in CUPS 1.1x and above
[10:28] <synd> chombee: are you using hoary?
[10:28] <chombee> synd - yes
[10:28] <StellarPrince> synd i'm not chombee lol
[10:28] <synd> StellarPrince: thanks
[10:29] <synd> chombee: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[10:29] <Guimauve2> I have a question about apache2 : in which config file can I define the default web pages directory (DocumentRoot directive)?
[10:29] <chombee> synd - because the wireless card is not configured I can't apt-get anything, and I have only a server install running. Nice, no?
[10:29] <krebs> mm someone knows about why my totem didn't sounds but just video, when xmms works perfectly and I downloaded kino kodec pack?
[10:30] <synd> chombee: can you not hardwire connect it?
[10:30] <tiglionabbit> =[  darn it things aren't printing right at all
[10:30] <synd> chombee: thats what i had to do
[10:30] <chombee> synd - but it seems to have detected the wireless interface, so I wasn going to try to configure it myself
[10:30] <StellarPrince> synd -> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=321274
[10:30] <StellarPrince> i'm krayhze
[10:30] <chombee> synd - hardwire? the ethernet card in this thing is broken
[10:31] <synd> chombee: i see
[10:31] <osity> anyone have software raid experience with raid?
[10:31] <synd> chombee: well if its being detected, ten i dont know what to tell you
[10:31] <tiglionabbit> the test page comes out as several lines.  Other things put some gibberish on the top line and a few elipses on the page
[10:31] <osity> raid 1
[10:31] <synd> then
[10:31] <chombee> synd - it's detected, but it's like it's not activated
[10:31] <Razor-X> tiglioabbit: you used CUPS setup, then?
[10:31] <rancorus> hey, i have problems using my hp printer on linux.
[10:31] <Guimauve2> I have a question about apache2 : in which config file can I define the default web pages directory (DocumentRoot directive)?
[10:31] <Razor-X> rancorus: what's the problem?
[10:32] <synd> chombee: is the ethernet and dial up modem deactivated
[10:32] <StellarPrince> synd can u help me?
[10:32] <synd> StellarPrince: no im not familiar with slack
[10:32] <chombee> synd - I think the ethernet is simply broken, nothing in ifconfig, and I don't think it even has dialup, anyway we couldn't use it if it did
[10:32] <StellarPrince> humm ok
[10:32] <rancorus> razor-x, i cannot get it to print something even if it the driver is installed
[10:32] <StellarPrince> but the problem isnt the slack i think
[10:33] <Stephen> Guimauve2 - /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[10:33] <chombee> Anyone know how to use iwconfig?
[10:33] <krebs> mm someone knows about why my totem didn't sounds but just video, when xmms works perfectly and I downloaded kino kodec pack?
[10:33] <synd> chombee: no, go into System > Prefs > Networking
[10:33] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: I used system->admin->printers, and selected New Printer
[10:33] <chombee> synd - server install only, stuck at command line, sorry!
[10:33] <synd> chombee: oh jeeze
[10:33] <tiglionabbit> it's using the hpijs driver
[10:34] <synd> chombee: no idea
[10:34] <rancorus> tiglionabbit: It is connected with usb cable, could that be the problem
[10:34] <chombee> synd - thanks anyway
[10:34] <synd> no problem
[10:35] <IcemanV9> krebs: you might want to select a different sound system, i think
[10:35] <Chetic> How do I get a list of my /dev/hd's? (and possible a list of what type of partition and size they are)
[10:35] <krebs> tnx
[10:35] <IcemanV9> Chetic: df -h
[10:35] <HappyFool> sudo fdisk -l
[10:35] <Chetic> thanks IcemanV9
[10:35] <Chetic> oh thanks HappyFool too :p
[10:36] <chombee> synd - do you think I could build the driver for the card in this laptop then transfer it over to the other and it would work?
[10:36] <tiglionabbit> rancorus: I know it's usb.  How is that a problem?  It worked with hoary unstable..
[10:36] <Hablandocontigo> I _need_ to encode a wav file to 64kbps wma and rm files, how can I do that?
[10:36] <tiglionabbit> something tells me I should just restart and see if it's detected..  bleh, my windows instincts
[10:37] <synd> chombee: perhaps
[10:37] <IcemanV9> Chetic: both commands will do trick depending on how much info u want :)
[10:37] <osity> noone has raid experience?
[10:37] <rancorus> tiglionabbit: mine works sporadically and i don't know why
[10:37] <neighborlee> I can't run synaptic from gnome menu ( works in console) as I get this error: unable to copy users xauthorization file ?
[10:37] <synd> chombee: but thats beyond my level
[10:37] <chombee> synd - didn't you know how to use ndiswrapper?
[10:37] <tiglionabbit> alright, I'm gonna restart, brb
[10:38] <bkinman> qt3's designer looks all see through and messed up on my system , anyone know why?
[10:38] <JDigital> Yes, the fonts have most 100% definitely changed in upgrading to Hoary.
[10:38] <r0d> whats a good backup plan for a desktop system? what files should I backup?
[10:38] <JDigital> anything not easily replaceable
[10:38] <synd> chombee: yup
[10:38] <chombee> synd - what does that involve?
[10:39] <r0d> so then just data, because everything else can be replaced easy. maybe the /etc file then i guess
[10:39] <synd> chombee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[10:39] <JDigital> Oh, smashing! Upgrading to hoary has broken mplayer!
[10:39] <HappyFool> r0d: you'll probably want to backup /home/r0d/  (or whatever your home dir is)
[10:40] <JDigital> and broken sound. hmm...
[10:40] <hajiki> anyone know how to fix this? No package 'mozilla-plugin' found
[10:40] <hajiki> configure: error: Unable to find gecko sdk
[10:40] <hajiki> i already installed mozilla-firefox-dev
[10:41] <bpfick>  Has anyone dual booted on a Mac?
[10:41] <jhave> somebody there can help whit framebuffer ?
[10:42] <HappyFool> hajiki: maybe you need mozilla-dev as well? (just guessing)
[10:42] <hajiki> i would hope not could that would also install the mozilla suite :(
[10:43] <hajiki> s/could/because
[10:44] <ghostless> I'm having trouble playing DivX movies...Is there a tutorial somewhere?
[10:44] <tiglionabbit> okay.  I restarted and it works perfectly.  This is not supposed to happen.
[10:44] <tiglionabbit> oh well
[10:44] <tiglionabbit> it works
[10:44] <tiglionabbit> ghostless:
[10:45] <ghostless> ?
[10:45] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[10:45] <tiglionabbit> ...  wha?  where's the bot?
[10:45] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[10:45] <tiglionabbit> okay I'll type it out.
[10:45] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:45] <tiglionabbit> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:45] <tiglionabbit> oh, there ubotu is
[10:45] <ghostless> I went there
[10:45] <ghostless> it didn't help
[10:46] <Chetic> How do I mount an ntfs partition so regular users can browse through it and use the files? (I don't understand man mount, to be honest)
[10:46] <jaggi> where's the rc.local type file
[10:46] <HappyFool> jaggi: try /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[10:46] <jaggi> I know the rc#.d and init.d dirs..
[10:46] <jaggi> thanks
[10:46] <ghostless> tiglionabbit: I went there and it didn't help
[10:47] <HappyFool> Chetic: you need an option umask=000 (or umask=222) -- so mount -t ntfs -o umask=000 /dev/hdaX /media/windows
[10:47] <ghostless> tiglionabbit: I installed MPlayer....and I installed a package call libdivx4linux
[10:47] <chombee> If I plug in a supported external wireless card, should it just work straight away?
[10:48] <tiglionabbit> urf, I can't answer these questions..
[10:48] <HappyFool> hrm. what happened to the wiki? it looks all shiny
[10:48] <ghostless> yea it does
[10:48] <ghostless> it's now Moin-based
[10:49] <HappyFool> ghostless: i installed the w32codecs package -- i think that's what lets me watch divx
[10:49] <tiglionabbit> shiny?  Didn't it always look like that?
[10:49] <zwart> ghostless: install gstreamer-ffmpeg and use totem
[10:50] <Chetic> wow HappyFool, now I've learned that for life.. heh, thanks
[10:50] <HappyFool> ghostless: if it helps, i have version "1:20050412-0.0"  (according to dpkg -p) -- got it from marillat a while back
[10:50] <JDigital> Hey guys! How do I add the extra repositories? like, the repository that has 'smeg'?
[10:50] <ghostless> HappyFool: I have that and it didn't do divx
[10:50] <zwart> i think the wiki looks better now
[10:50] <HappyFool> Chetic: cool. just learnt about it yesterday
[10:51] <ghostless> zwart: ok I'll try that
[10:51] <JDigital> because the way ubuntuguide describes it doesn't match my file
[10:51] <tiglionabbit> JDigital: you can either check them in synaptic's repositories section, or uncomment them or add them to /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:51] <djs> What was the wiki engine prior to moin?
[10:51] <JDigital> which ones do I have to check
[10:51] <chombee> JDigital - go to the Ubuntu Starters Guide, open the example sources.list it has, delete the entire contents of your sources.list and paste the contents of the example into it, open synaptic and reload package lists
[10:52] <JDigital> oh, the entire sources.list?
[10:52] <chombee> JDigital - their example will give you a pretty good set of repositories, voer 16,000 pkg's, though I don't think it's everything. Anyway yes do that. Make a backup copy of sources.list first
[10:53] <Chetic> the music player that comes with ubuntu (hoary) can't play MP3 files because it's missing a plugin.. what do I do about that?
[10:53] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[10:53] <ubotu> restricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:53] <zyth> Chetic, install gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:53] <zyth> oh hey cool, I didn't know that could be done
[10:53] <zyth> !nvidia
[10:53] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:53] <zyth> neat :D
[10:53] <chombee> Chetic - you can install xmms or beep-media-player, or if you install gstreamer0.8-mad that it the plugin the Music player needs
[10:53] <heimdall> Hi everybody
[10:53] <Chetic> ah zyth and chombee, thanks
[10:53] <JDigital> yeah, that gave a bunch of errors when I started synaptic
[10:54] <chombee> JDigital - you did what I said? Okay now press reload in synaptic
[10:54] <JDigital> reloading already
[10:54] <JDigital> though it gave a bunch of "oops, couldn't find a bunch of stuff" errors upon startup
[10:54] <chombee> JDigital - let me know if reloading succeeds without errors
[10:54] <JDigital> it does
[10:54] <chombee> JDigital - I think those errors will happen, until you reload the lists
[10:55] <JDigital> aha.
[10:55] <JDigital> good good, it works now.
[10:55] <heimdall> can I ask a question, I have a little problem with my ubuntu
[10:55] <heimdall> ?
[10:55] <chombee> JDigital - okay so it reloads  successfully? Now install whatever you want, you should have just about everything
[10:55] <JDigital> Now, when I mark "all upgrades", I get an error saying that a ton of stuff isn't authenticated.
[10:56] <heimdall> I have a laptop, the installation seems to be successful but when I enter my login/pwd, I have a brown screen and a sound which is repeating himself
[10:56] <chombee> JDigital - this is probably okay
[10:56] <heimdall> I thnk the problem is maybe my sis630 chipset ?
[10:57] <Fabian> pfp, are you here?
[10:57] <Fabian> hi everybody, ever screwed your partition table? :D
[10:57] <JDigital> hehe
[10:57] <JDigital> what a great way to start a conversation
[10:57] <concept10> what do you guys use for email? evolution or thunderbird?
[10:57] <pfp> Fabian: ye, still here
[10:57] <Fabian> JDigital, I don't feel like laughing! :D
[10:57] <Fabian> lol, still?
[10:57] <chombee> concept10 - evolutoin is much better than thunderbird
[10:57] <heimdall> is there someone who can help me ? I'm lost..
[10:58] <pfp> Fabian: umm, make that again
[10:58] <Fabian> pfp, make what again?
[10:58] <concept10> chombee, yeah, i feel that way also but evolution has been giving me problems since I switched to ubuntu
[10:58] <IFRFLYR> Hey, anyone have any ndiswrapper experience? Am I supposed to use the WHOLE linksys driver package, all 7.6MBs of it?
[10:58] <JDigital> This is baffling, it wants to install firefox. I have firefox.
[10:58] <chombee> concept10 - what kind of problems?
[10:58] <pfp> i mean, i slept for some hours, so again, not still :P
[10:59] <Fabian> ah, now I understand
[10:59] <Fabian> time for a privat chat?
[10:59] <neighborlee> synaptic wont work from gnome menu ( it works in console though ) as I get this error: unable to copy users xauthorization file , and wondering if anyone knows what might be wrong ?? ;-)
[10:59] <pfp> Fabian: yeah
[10:59] <chombee> JDigital - are you sure it isn't upgrading firefox?
[10:59] <JDigital> It has three categories: NOT AUTHENTICATED, To be upgraded, and To be installed
[10:59] <heimdall> is there someone who can help me with my problem on my laptop and my ubuntu ?
[10:59] <VRH> how i can insert a new predefined document in create new document when i do right click inthe desktop?
[11:00] <JDigital> To be installed is "firefox", "firefox-gnome-support" and some other stuff
[11:00] <fabio> hi all
[11:00] <concept10> chombee, cannot send outgoing mail with gmail
[11:01] <chombee> VRH - I think it might have something to do with nautilus templates, when you right click on a window bar and get the nautilus menu
[11:01] <JDigital> what does it mean when a package version number ends in "ubp2"?
[11:02] <chombee> concept10 - ah, gmail. Gmail is funny to configure. Why not just send email with you local sendmail process instead?
[11:02] <concept10> chombee, couldnt figure that one out.  I had gmail working with Evolution grabbing mail for three accounts.
[11:03] <jaggi> bbl
[11:03] <JDigital> oh, backports.
[11:03] <JDigital> Do I want backports?
[11:03] <concept10> chombee, it must be something with gmail because i cant get it working with thunderbird either.  I have to check my settings
[11:04] <chombee> concept10 - in my evolution mail accounts, for sending mail, I set the Server Type to the Sendmail option. I think it's there by default. Use gmail for receiving mail as you are, but not for sending
[11:04] <HappyFool> JDigital: that is the ubuntuguide procedure, and is one way to get stuff outside ubuntu's repo. some of the gurus here don't like it, though *shrug*
[11:04] <chombee> concept10 - if I remember, gmails smtp server is a little funny to configure.
[11:04] <VRH> chombee, thx, i have resolved. you hace to create a directory in your home that call "Templates" and inside it you have to create a new Document
[11:04] <msg431> hello
[11:04] <msg431> I am using ndiswrapper
[11:05] <msg431> the network config tool doesn't work very well
[11:05] <msg431> I would like to write a script were would I call it to boot up from
[11:05] <chombee> VRH - and then that document appears in the Create Document menu? Is it just named by the filename? Neat
[11:05] <Chetic> is there no package for zsnes?
[11:05] <chombee> Chetic - I don't think so, but zsnes is easy enought to get working if you just download it
[11:06] <VRH> chombee, yes
[11:06] <JDigital> All I know is that I used to be able to play MP3s in xmms, and now that I've upgraded to Hoary, I can't.
[11:06] <HappyFool> Chetic: zsnes is in multiverse
[11:06] <microhaxo> Guys i get this error when trying to play AMERICAS ARMY Xlib:  extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:06] <microhaxo> is there a quick fix?
[11:06] <VRH> chombee, for example you create a new document called New Document of text.txt
[11:06] <VRH> and it appears
[11:06] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> microhaxo, is 2.4 out for linux ?
[11:06] <microhaxo> np
[11:07] <microhaxo> no
[11:07] <microhaxo> 2.3
[11:07] <microhaxo> i cant get it to work
[11:07] <microhaxo> lol
[11:07] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> ahhh ok
[11:07] <microhaxo> get this error, sounds like a quick fix?
[11:07] <microhaxo> Xlib:  extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:07] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> I play it myself
[11:07] <Chetic> HappyFool, what's the name?
[11:07] <HappyFool> Chetic: zsnes
[11:07] <Chetic> chombee, yeah I just didn't feel like setting stuff up for compile
[11:07] <Chetic> HappyFool, can't be found.. and I've added all those sources
[11:07] <chombee> Chetic - well, turns out it's there in one of the repositories anyway
[11:08] <msg431> anyone can you help me
[11:08] <HappyFool> apt-cache policy zsneszsnes: #=> 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/multiverse Packages
[11:08] <HappyFool> oops
[11:08] <chombee> chetic - I can see the zsnes package
[11:08] <Chetic> chombee, where? :/
[11:08] <HappyFool> just zsnes, not whatever that said
[11:08] <Chetic> damn..
[11:08] <dabi> is there any way i can see my battery status in acer aspire 1410? i dont hace nothing on /proc/acpi/battery
[11:09] <HappyFool> Chetic: you probably don't have multiverse
[11:09] <chombee> chetic - Cross Platform (multiverse)
[11:09] <JDigital> Do I have any choice other than using the backports repositories, if I actually want MP3 support back?
[11:09] <HappyFool> Chetic: don't confuse multiverse with universe
[11:09] <HappyFool> JDigital: for MP3 playback, you don't need backports
[11:09] <HappyFool> JDigital: for video codecs, i'm not sure
[11:09] <JDigital> What do I need
[11:09] <JDigital> xmms isn't playing it, and mplayer can't get any sound when playing video
[11:09] <HappyFool> JDigital: universe / main (standard ubutun repositories) as far as i can tell
[11:09] <zwart> is there a way i can exlude drives from backing up stuff i delete in the .Trash directories? everytime i try to remove stuff from my mp3 player i have to do it twice
[11:09] <Chetic> HappyFool, I always have them all available..
[11:10] <bkinman> What does this mean? Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[11:10] <tiglionabbit> grr.  Um, I'm trying to print something from firefox but all I get is a bit of garblage and some elipses
[11:10] <HappyFool> JDigital: you can just remove the 'backports' lines in /etc/apt/sources.list by commenting them out (put a '#' at the beginning of the line)
[11:10] <HappyFool> JDigital: then install gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:11] <HappyFool> JDigital: i think there might be another issue with xmms re the sound daemon (esd)
[11:11] <heimdall> can someone help me ? I have problems with my ubuntu, brown screen typing my login/pwd, I can't do anything
[11:11] <HappyFool> JDigital: that's not mp3 related, afaik, but a general sound thing
[11:11] <JDigital> ah
[11:12] <HappyFool> Chetic: how about putting your /etc/apt/sources.list up here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl ?
[11:12] <Chetic> yeah HappyFool I'll do that..
[11:12] <JDigital> HappyFool: I have gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:13] <HappyFool> JDigital: ok, then at least 'Music Player' (aka RhythmBox) should play mp3s
[11:13] <JDigital> I want to use xmms
[11:13] <Chetic> HappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/99
[11:13] <Hablandocontigo>  I _need_ to encode a wav file to 64kbps wma and rm files, how can I do that?
[11:14] <HappyFool> JDigital: yeah, but we can at least test with that first ;)
[11:14] <JDigital> oh true
[11:14] <dabi> is there any way to see my battery status? i have nothing on /proc/acpi/battery
[11:14] <JDigital> oh cool, Music Player has a slot for my iPod
[11:14] <JDigital> now all I need to do is to buy an iPod
[11:14] <JDigital> :)
[11:14] <zyth> JDigital, I have a Zen Xtra, and it doesn't seem to like it.
[11:15] <zyth> I'm stuck with Gnomad 2 :(
[11:15] <zwart> i wonder if it would work w my rio cali
[11:15] <JDigital> I have an MP3 player that holds 16MB
[11:15] <HappyFool> Chetic: hmm
[11:15] <zwart> lol
[11:15] <JDigital> it only works with a specific software that only runs on Windows 98
[11:15] <zyth> I want to get rid of the Zen Xtra.. it's 30gb of Non-Ogg compatibility.
[11:16] <JDigital> aha
[11:16] <JDigital> Music Player is playing my Music
[11:16] <J0el> whats a good app that would display my cpu temperature and freq.
[11:16] <JDigital> and eating 80% CPU to do it :)
[11:16] <HappyFool> JDigital: ok, so we just need to figure out what the plugin for xmms is
[11:17] <JDigital> so I wonder what's stopping xmms from playing mp3, and mplayer from playing my animes
[11:17] <zyth> xmms won't play mp3?
[11:17] <zyth> weird.
[11:17] <zyth> mine does
[11:17] <Chetic> lol mine too
[11:17] <JDigital> mine did until I upgraded to hoary
[11:17] <Seveas> JDigital, did you change the xmms output plugin to Esound?
[11:17] <JDigital> now it just hangs when I hit play
[11:17] <Chetic> HappyFool, well?
[11:17] <nalioth_wrkn> JDigital: have you seen the ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats   ? if so, that is weird
[11:17] <Seveas> JDigital, yeah,, that's the esound problem :)(
[11:17] <zyth> I use ALSA
[11:18] <zyth> it works happily
[11:18] <Seveas> JDigital, very easy to fix iin the xmms prefs
[11:18] <JDigital> time for me to alsa on up then it seems
[11:18] <Seveas> JDigital, no, use esound
[11:18] <HappyFool> JDigital: you might need xmms-mad -- but i'm not sure. there is the whole esd thing too, not sure how to tweak that
[11:18] <Seveas> that's what hoary uses by default
[11:18] <HappyFool> Chetic: it certainly looks like you have multiverse
[11:18] <JDigital> My xmms is using the OSS Driver
[11:19] <Chetic> HappyFool, how do I search with apt-get?
[11:19] <zyth> OSS is depreciated ;)
[11:19] <Seveas> JDigital, that cannot work on oary :)
[11:19] <HappyFool> Chetic: apt-cache search
[11:19] <JDigital> OSS Driver 1.2.10 libOSS.so
[11:19] <JDigital> aha
[11:19] <Seveas> JDigital, let it use Esound/esd
[11:19] <JDigital> ok
[11:19] <HappyFool> Chetic: have you run 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[11:19] <Chetic> yeah HappyFool
[11:19] <JDigital> good, now it works
[11:19] <HappyFool> Chetic: what does 'apt-cache show zsnes' say ?
[11:20] <Chetic> HappyFool, nothing
[11:20] <JDigital> I wonder how advanced UAE has gotten
[11:20] <JDigital> WinUAE is pretty good at what it does but the linux version I used was crappy
[11:20] <HappyFool> Chetic: i.e., or 'W:  Unable to locate package'
[11:20] <zyth> run WinUAE in Wine ;)
[11:20] <JDigital> heheh
[11:20] <paxon> Seveas, what's a good recent Linux book to read. (I have running Linux, Oreilly).
[11:20] <Seveas> paxon, no idea :)
[11:20] <Chetic> root@ubuntu:/ # apt-cache show zsnes
[11:20] <Chetic> root@ubuntu:/ #
[11:20] <HappyFool> eek
[11:21] <Chetic> I'll say
[11:21] <JDigital> I remember an Amiga magazine once had an Amiga emulate a Mac emulating an Commodore 64, just to prove that it could be done. Another time I think they had a PC emulating an Amiga emulating a PC.
[11:21] <Seveas> paxon, there is going to be an Ubuntu book :)
[11:21] <paxon> When/where?
[11:21] <zyth> what the heck, FreePascal isn't in Synaptic!
[11:21] <zyth> EVIL
[11:22] <HappyFool> Chetic: i'm not really an apt guru -- i don't know what could be wrong
[11:22] <JDigital> I wonder if smeg is in a repository somewhere
[11:22] <zyth> JDigital, : backports
[11:22] <JDigital> ah
[11:22] <JDigital> Guilty Gear song titles are the best
[11:22] <paxon> I need me some good book. Reading from the screen is pain.
[11:22] <zyth> just make sure to remove backports once you install it, or your 'automatic updater' will tell you that you have 29 packages to 'upgrade' and it'll probably break stuff.
[11:23] <JDigital> haha
[11:23] <JDigital> yeah, I was wary of doing that
[11:23] <JDigital> it told me I had 54
[11:23] <zyth> I added it long enough to install Smeg, then removed backports
[11:23] <zyth> then did the upgrades
[11:23] <JDigital> if it's not broke, don't fix it
[11:23] <HappyFool> Chetic: it's a bit of a stretch, but does 'apt-get check' tell you anything about errors ?
[11:23] <zyth> JDigital, if there's security updates, it's broke.
[11:24] <HappyFool> Chetic: i don't think i can suggest much more than that
[11:24] <breezy> does anybody know how to convert a wmv to mpg on ubuntu?
[11:24] <JDigital> Hey, smeg wants to upgrade python-xdg.
[11:24] <zyth> JDigital, yep
[11:24] <JDigital> wonder what python-xdg is.
[11:25] <JDigital> oh well, here goes
[11:25] <msg431> How would I call a script at bootup?
[11:26] <Chetic> HappyFool, no errors there..
[11:26] <HappyFool> Chetic: sorry, i'm out of ideas. something is wrong, but i don't know what
[11:27] <Chetic> HappyFool, Everything works perfectly but that one package isn't there.. that's.. weird
[11:28] <HappyFool> Chetic: somewhat ;)
[11:28] <msg431> Can anyone see me
[11:28] <Seveas> Chetic, which package?
[11:28] <Seveas> msg431, no, you are completely invisible unfortunately...
[11:29] <zukalk> how does he do that?
[11:29] <msg431> Seveas, I'm wonder if anyone can help me
[11:29] <zukalk> :P
[11:29] <msg431> I know a bunch about linux but I'm new to ubuntu
[11:29] <Seveas> msg431, just ask your question then :)
[11:29] <Chetic> Seveas, zsnes
[11:29] <msg431> I want to know what file I should bring up a scritp if i want it to excute at boot
[11:30] <dabi> i cant see my battery status... /proc/acpi/battery doesnt exist.. anything i can do?
[11:30] <Seveas> msg431, at boot or when you login?
[11:30] <Seveas> Chetic, that's completely normal
[11:30] <Seveas> you are on amd64
[11:31] <Seveas> zsnes only comes for i386
[11:31] <Chetic> Seveas, ohh of course
[11:31] <Chetic> Can't it be compiled on amd64 or something?
[11:31] <HappyFool> chetic: doh
[11:32] <lsuactiafner> Chetic : what was the question?
[11:32] <HappyFool> still, why didn't apt-cache give an error?
[11:32] <Chetic> lsuactiafner, Now I just want to know if zsnes can be compiled on amd64
[11:32] <msg431> Seveas, at boot
[11:32] <Chetic> Whenever something says cache, I'm completely lost.. so don't ask me :p
[11:33] <breezy> anybody ever converted a wmv into something else on linux?
[11:33] <Seveas> Chetic, http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/z/zsnes/1.360-2/
[11:33] <lsuactiafner> breezy : all the time
[11:33] <breezy> lsuactiafner, with what?
[11:33] <Seveas> HappyFool, it's not apt-caches task to give an error there
[11:33] <Seveas> msg431, you have the script already?
[11:33] <msg431> Seveas, no but I know how to write it
[11:34] <djm62> transcode
[11:34] <lsuactiafner> breezy : man mencoder
[11:34] <microhaxo> guys how can i fix this error
[11:34] <lsuactiafner> then press end on the keyboard
[11:34] <microhaxo> Xlib: extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:34] <HappyFool> Seveas: if i type in a nonsense name, i get an error msg *shrug*
[11:34] <Seveas> msg431, then put it somewhere in /etc/init.d/ and do sudo ln -s /etc/rc2.d/S99YOURNAME /etc/init.d/YOURNAME
[11:34] <biovore> "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0" <-- playing UT?
[11:35] <djm62> microhaxo: UT2k3?
[11:35] <microhaxo> Americas army
[11:35] <Seveas> where YOURNAME is the name of the script
[11:35] <biovore> yeah.. it just come up.. no clue what it is..
[11:35] <microhaxo> yea its pissin me off
[11:35] <JDigital> Oop, mplayer isn't doing too good. It stalls at this line:
[11:35] <JDigital> alsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default
[11:35] <JDigital> just kinda stalls there
[11:35] <biovore> It's because the NVIDIA driver dosn't support something the software calls for..  but it ussulay dosn't kill the game..
[11:35] <Seveas> JDigital, edit /etc/mplayer.conf
[11:36] <Seveas> JDigital, edit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[11:36] <microhaxo> well
[11:36] <microhaxo> how the hell can i fix it?
[11:36] <konki> hi aLL... need some heLp here plze...
[11:36] <Seveas> make sure that ao=esd
[11:36] <biovore> bitch at a developer
[11:36] <Seveas> konki, read the topic: just ask
[11:36] <JDigital> ah, esd
[11:36] <konki> installing firefox on ubuntu/linux
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> am having trouble encoding things so windows can play it
[11:36] <Seveas> konki, DO NOT manually install it
[11:37] <lsuactiafner> anybody got a fool proof method thats compatable with windows?
[11:37] <Seveas> konki, the firefox version Ubuntu provides has all 1.0.4 security patches applied
[11:37] <Seveas> so you don't need to install it manuall
[11:37] <Seveas> y
[11:37] <konki> i'm new to linux.. it an whole new world to me
[11:37] <konki> i installed the OS yesterday...
[11:37] <Seveas> nice :)
[11:38] <philuk86> can anyone tell me how i can go about rebuilding an ubuntu package once I have downloaded the source using apt-get?
[11:38] <Seveas> konki, do you see the smale globe at the top of your screen?
[11:38] <Seveas> That's firefox :)
[11:38] <konki> so i don't need to install the 1.0.4 or upgrade it to 1.0.4 right??? seveas
[11:38] <konki> yes
[11:38] <Seveas> philuk86, apt-get -b source [packagename] 
[11:39] <Chetic> Should I be worried of this?: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xlibmesa-glu-dev_6.8.2-10_amd64.deb   |  404 Not Found
[11:39] <Seveas> philuk86, or if you have the sources: simply type dpkg-buildpackage in the sourcedir (the dir tat contains a debian/ subdir)
[11:39] <microhaxo> its not there
[11:39] <microhaxo> they dont have x64 packages up yet
[11:39] <Seveas> Chetic, yes
[11:39] <Chetic> Seveas, Why do I get that?
[11:39] <philuk86> Seveas
[11:39] <Seveas> konki, you don't need to upgrade
[11:39] <konki> yes i see that Seveas
[11:40] <JDigital> hmm, the skipping forward and back seems more sluggish than it was
[11:40] <philuk86> Seveas: thanks mate
[11:40] <Seveas> Chetic, there's an error at the server, please send a mail to ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
[11:40] <JDigital> oh well
[11:40] <konki> ok... thanks... what about flash plugins and java script??
[11:40] <Seveas> konki, javascript is there by default, java and flash not, but look at:
[11:40] <Seveas> konki: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[11:40] <zwart> konki, if you want to install any extensions youll have to manually change your version number in about:config
[11:40] <Chetic> will do, Seveas
[11:41] <Seveas> Chetic, wait
[11:41] <x_or> Anyone here using a Netgear MA111 USB WiFi adaptor with Ubuntu?  I cannot get it configured.
[11:41] <Seveas> Chetic, do an apt-get update first
[11:41] <Seveas> and retry
[11:41] <konki> where is the :config??
[11:41] <Seveas> if there is still an error, send that e-mail :)
[11:41] <JDigital> Woot, I have e-mail.
[11:41] <levander> Anybody has got any of these "multimedia" keyboards to work with Linux?
[11:41] <zwart> just type about:config in the adressbar
[11:41] <Seveas> konki: Open firefox and in about:config set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4
[11:41] <JDigital> Why yes, I would like cheap v1agra!
[11:41] <x_or> Says "prism2_fwload: command not found"
[11:42] <zukalk> JDigital, you too, huh?
[11:42] <JDigital> You got it too? Man, I was hoping I was special.
[11:42] <zukalk> i get everyday
[11:42] <HappyFool> levander: i've got my volume and mute keys working
[11:42] <Seveas> JDigital, if you want cheap v1a g r a, I can forward you 1000 spam mails :)
[11:42] <zukalk> and valium, cialis, prozac.. spam is just amazing..
[11:42] <Chetic> Seveas, k.. didn't work
[11:42] <JDigital> I get a lot of e-mail lately from the tech support team at my e-mail address' web domain...
[11:43] <JDigital> ...which is funny, because I own the domain
[11:43] <Seveas> JDigital, lol
[11:43] <zukalk> lol
[11:43] <JDigital> I hope I'm not paying a lot for this tech support team
[11:43] <levander> HappyFool: anything special you had to do?  Just remember that from years ago, you had to have a specific driver for your specific keyboard if it did anything other than just the normal keys.
[11:43] <drasko_> hi all. do anyone know a good ascii art editor?
[11:43] <Seveas> same for me @kaarsemaker.net and @ubuntulinux.nl :)
[11:43] <Seveas> drasko_, try jave
[11:43] <Seveas> www.jave.de
[11:43] <konki> Seveas.... do i write :config set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4 in the address bar?
[11:43] <zyth> JDigital, Just run all those programs they send you :)
[11:43] <Seveas> (requires Java)
[11:43] <Seveas> konki, you write about:config in the addressbar
[11:43] <JDigital> I tried but they were Windows programs :(
[11:43] <levander> drasko_: emacs has a mode for that
[11:44] <zyth> JDigital, well, I'd complain! Cross-platform needs ought to be addressed in the spyware/adware/virus dept!
[11:44] <JDigital> I agree!
[11:44] <Seveas> levander, emacs leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering
[11:44] <HappyFool> levander: there was a step i don't remember, but i'm not sure how important it was; anyway, the main thing was system -> preferences -> shortcuts
[11:44] <JDigital> We should apply to put that in breezy
[11:44] <zyth> vi is happy.
[11:44] <hugos> Does anyone know how to replace a debian libc6 package with a ubuntu one?
[11:44] <levander> Seveas: so don't use it if your afraid of it
[11:44] <zyth> vim is happier.
[11:44] <Seveas> levander, I don't use it :)
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> i cant get transcode on apt.. but i got marillat, is it cuss i use amd64?
[11:45] <microhaxo> yo how can i fix this?
[11:45] <microhaxo> microhaxo@c-24-118-7-234:~$ fglrxinfo
[11:45] <microhaxo> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[11:45] <levander> Anybody got a Kensington Expert Mouse running under Linux? Just wondering if I'm going to be able to use the third and fourth buttons on that thing or not.
[11:45] <plamen5rov> hello
[11:45] <msg431> hi
[11:45] <konki> ok, i'm there..  alot of letters and stuffs....
[11:45] <msg431> how should I login to cups
[11:45] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, marillat has no amd64
[11:46] <msg431> what the username and password?
[11:46] <ws> I just installed amd-64 version and was wondering if there was a good list of repositories?
[11:46] <biovore> there isn't one by default
[11:46] <lsuactiafner> it got 64bit mplayer tho
[11:46] <plamen5rov> believe it or not...i am a...virgin...in irc
[11:46] <concept10> any mac owners in here
[11:46] <konki> Seveas, thanks
[11:46] <Seveas> ws, see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[11:46] <Seveas> plamen5rov, welcome :)
[11:46] <plamen5rov> thanks
[11:46] <ws> thanks
[11:47] <plamen5rov> i had just installed ubuntu 5.04
[11:47] <levander> is there anything fancy you have to do or verify for these extra featured keyboards and mice?
[11:47] <Seveas> plamen5rov, welcome aboard the big Ubuntu ship then
[11:47] <ws> Seveas,  do these include mplayer xine etc.?
[11:47] <plamen5rov> and have problemswith multimedia codecs
[11:47] <levander> to get them running under linux/ubuntu
[11:47] <Seveas> Seveas, yes
[11:47] <Seveas> narf
[11:47] <ws> haha
[11:47] <ws> thanks
[11:47] <Seveas> ws, yes
[11:47] <ws> :P
[11:48] <Seveas> I blame the lack of coffee here :)
[11:48] <microhaxo> microhaxo@c-24-118-7-234:~$ fglrxinfo
[11:48] <microhaxo> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[11:48] <zyth> hah!
[11:48] <microhaxo> seveas, any idea on how to fix this ?
[11:48] <ws> ;)
[11:48] <Seveas> microhaxo, no idea
[11:48] <zyth> coffee...pfft
[11:48] <biovore> looks like someone is using a ATI card.. :-(
[11:48] <Seveas> zyth, nothing like coffee strong as tar to survive a night of coding :)
[11:48] <microhaxo> yea
[11:48] <microhaxo> lol
[11:48] <zyth> Seveas, LOL okay, true :)
[11:48] <microhaxo> ATI
[11:48] <msg431> what the username and password for cups?
[11:49] <biovore> msg431: there isn't one..
[11:49] <Seveas> msg431, add the cupsys user to the wheel group
[11:49] <biovore> ^ do that..
[11:49] <Seveas> and use your own user/pass
[11:49] <biovore> :-)
[11:49] <plamen5rov> http://forum.about-hackers.com ???
[11:50] <microhaxo> sooo
[11:50] <microhaxo> how the hell
[11:50] <microhaxo> can i fix this monitor deal
[11:50] <microhaxo> ?
[11:50] <plamen5rov> so long!
[11:50] <djm62> plamen5rov: ugh...the "hacker" myth is in severe need of popping
[11:50] <msg431> Seveas, there is no wheel group
[11:50] <Chetic> Depends: snes9x-x  but it is not installable <-why is it not installable?
[11:51] <Seveas> msg431, then i'm outdated again :|
[11:51] <Seveas> search the forum/wiki for an answer, there are answers to this question there
[11:52] <djm62> Chetic: what does apt-get install snes9x-x say?
[11:52] <Seveas> I never use CUPS, I always print via SSH to a printer at work :)
[11:52] <djm62> Chetic: I've used snes9x on ARM linux before, so it is portable
[11:52] <Fabian> re
[11:52] <Seveas> djm62, we already figured out that there is no zsnes for amd64 in Ubuntu :)
[11:52] <Chetic> djm62, Package snes9x-x is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source     E: Package snes9x-x has no installation candidate
[11:52] <Fabian> hi Seves
[11:52] <Fabian> pfp, back on track
[11:52] <Chetic> Seveas, this is snes9x
[11:53] <djm62> Seveas: znes!=snes9x
[11:53] <Seveas> Chetic, what you might try is this: apt-get -b zsnes
[11:53] <msg431> Seveas, I couldn't find anything
[11:53] <pfp> Fabian: did it work?
[11:53] <Fabian> pfp, Grub working fine
[11:53] <Seveas> Chetic, what you might try is this: apt-get -b source zsnes
[11:53] <Fabian> pfp, it's using the swap partition again now
[11:53] <pfp> Fabian: and the whole system boots?
[11:53] <Fabian> um, didn't try that!
[11:54] <Fabian> :D
[11:54] <pfp> Fabian: ah, you booted livecd, good :)
[11:54] <Fabian> yep
[11:54] <Chetic> Seveas, unable to find...
[11:54] <Fabian> pfp, so what now
[11:54] <pfp> Fabian: probably the rest works too, did you try to mount them?
[11:54] <Seveas> Chetic, do you have a deb-src list for universe?
[11:54] <Fabian> nope
[11:54] <Chetic> Seveas, yep
[11:54] <Fabian> I'll have a go
[11:54] <Fabian> ro?
[11:55] <pfp> better safe than sorry :)
[11:55] <djm62> Seveas: would packages.debian.org be an option to get source?
[11:55] <Fabian> pfp, I would not have made you responsible
[11:55] <Seveas> djm62, packages.ubuntu.com :)
[11:55] <Chetic> E: Package snes9x-x has no installation candidate <-what the heck is that about? If you have snes9x stuff, you'd naturally put up the actual application itself..
[11:55] <pfp> Fabian: i know, but still :)
[11:55] <djm62> Seveas: I'm presuming the lack of availability on ubuntu is the problem...
[11:55] <Seveas> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=zsnes&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all
[11:55] <Fabian> pfp, ro?
[11:56] <pfp> Fabian: yeah
[11:56] <Seveas> Chetic, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/otherosfs/zsnes
[11:56] <Seveas> dowload dsc, orig.tar.gz and diff.gz
[11:56] <Fabian> alright, mounted ext3 partition
[11:56] <Seveas> and try dpkg-buildpackage
[11:56] <pfp> cool cool
[11:57] <Fabian> pfp, privat again?
[11:57] <pfp> sure
[11:59] <zyth> huh mplayer just totally screwed the audio sync on video file
[11:59] <seth_k> Chetic, actually if you check the forums, I just backported zSNES 1.4.2 for Hoary
[11:59] <zyth> should I install totem-xine?