[12:15] <microhaxo> #ubuntu
[12:15] <kalenedrael> ok, and?
[12:18] <bkudria> kdm doesn't display a list of users like i told it too...what gives?
[12:33] <gtaylor> Anyone else here have to run k3b as root to get it to see your burning devices?
[12:34] <seth_k> negative
[12:34] <kalenedrael> nope
[12:34] <Gombeni> I am absolutely new to kubuntu and just need to know very few basic things. how can I update things here (deb/apt-get/...) I tried deb but it seems it is not installed by default
[12:35] <kalenedrael> though i usually run it as root (for backups)
[12:35] <kalenedrael> be root, firstly
[12:35] <airox> Gombeni: You are new to linux too ?
[12:35] <Gombeni> no
[12:35] <Gombeni> I just removed my fedora 4 in favour of kubuntu
[12:35] <kalenedrael> if you like, you can use sudo
[12:36] <airox> Gombeni: yum is kinda like apt-get :)
[12:36] <kalenedrael> yeah, i've had memory management problems with fedora
[12:36] <kalenedrael> apt-get install <package>
[12:36] <airox> apt-cache search <keywords>
[12:36] <kalenedrael> if you don't know what it's called, apt-cache search <package>
[12:36] <airox> he!
[12:36] <kalenedrael> yeah
[12:36] <Gombeni> let me try, thanks
[12:36] <airox> :)
[12:36] <kalenedrael> should be pretty straightforward
[12:37] <kalenedrael> one common command that i use (if a bunch of packages come separately but are part of the same overall thing that i want to install) is apt-cache search <package> | cut -d\  -f1 | xargs sudo apt-get install
[12:37] <kalenedrael> that installs all the packages that apt-cache lists
[12:40] <iahim> can anybody recomend a tv/fm tunner package for kubuntu?
[12:43] <Gombeni> don't we have gcc installed by default?
[12:43] <Gombeni> I have obtained a 5.04 kubuntu dvd
[12:51] <Consty> Gombeni: are you using live cd or installed?
[12:51] <Gombeni> no I installed it
[12:52] <Gombeni> I am looking at a installed kubuntu screen ;)
[12:52] <Gombeni> i have never used debian/ubuntu/xandros/... as root. 
[12:53] <Gombeni> so I absolutely have no idea what is the difference between apt-get, deb, dpkg ...
[12:54] <Gombeni> I need some good place to find a not very basic intro in order to RTFM
[12:55] <cartel_> anyone using breezy?
[12:56] <Gombeni> for instance I have just added a line to my /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:56] <Gombeni> (deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main)
[12:56] <mrmanic> Gombeni: it rocks pretty hard.  I love Debian's package management.
[12:56] <cartel_> iahim: i saw one on freshmeat not long ago
[12:56] <mrmanic> Gombeni: so now you'd do sudo apt-get update
[12:56] <mrmanic> Gombeni: and sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:57] <Gombeni> a question, isn't gcc installed by default?
[12:57] <Gombeni> or tex
[12:58] <Gombeni> in order to upgrade my stuff (including kde) , do I need to close kde first?
[12:59] <Gombeni> Am I asking too many questions? :D
[01:00] <Consty> no you do not need to close it as far as I know
[01:00] <airox> How do I select a package to install in aptitude ?
[01:01] <airox> I have set focus on a package I want.
[01:01] <airox> I guessed I should press 'g', but it doesn't work :(
[01:02] <airox> nm, already found it :)
[01:03] <Gombeni> is breezy the next version or it is always the name for development branch (like sid in debian) ?
[01:08] <Gombeni> I get this: (good for me ;) )     checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
[01:08] <Gombeni> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[01:09] <Gombeni> I can't figure out which package I need to get (good for me again ;) )
[01:17] <microhaxo> Guys how can i fix this?
[01:17] <microhaxo> error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:21] <seth_k> Gombeni: breezy is just the next version
[01:21] <Gombeni> is it nearly stable or ... 
[01:23] <seth_k> Gombeni, I'm running it on two computers and it works beautifully
[01:23] <seth_k> Gombeni, but there's a lot of road left until October
[01:23] <seth_k> Gombeni, I've been done for a day or two a few times, when big changes broke things
[01:23] <Gombeni> which gcc it uses?
[01:24] <Gombeni> 4?
[01:24] <seth_k> yeah
[01:24] <seth_k> it still has 3.3, 3.4
[01:24] <seth_k> iirc
[01:24] <seth_k> but it also has 4
[01:24] <Gombeni> 4.0.0 is no good.
[01:25] <Gombeni> but fedora seems to have fixed some of the bugs with it
[01:25] <seth_k> hehe, right now it's 4.0.0-1
[01:25] <seth_k> super new
[01:25] <seth_k> ah, but supporting packages are 4.0.0-8ubuntu3
[01:25] <Gombeni> 4.0.0 is blacklisted in kde
[01:25] <seth_k> so probably some stuff fixed
[01:26] <Bicchi> does any one knows how to install wine so that i can windows applications.
[01:26] <Gombeni> kynaptic is wonderful!
[01:27] <seth_k> no it isn't :/ it's missing a lot of features that are in synaptic
[01:27] <seth_k> breezy is going to switch to kontrol, or at least try to
[01:28] <Gombeni> but it is far better than package management stuff on fedora
[01:28] <seth_k> true that :D
[01:28] <seth_k> apt > *
[01:28] <Gombeni> perhaps fedora has degraded my expectations of a package management system ;)
[01:28] <seth_k> SuSE isn't much better
[01:29] <seth_k> I was on SuSE for almost a year before I found Ubuntu
[01:30] <liz4rd> its upload your screeshot hour!!! http://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload/ username: public password: user ^_^
[01:30] <seth_k> rolleye
[01:30] <liz4rd> ...
[01:31] <seth_k> http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/ :D
[01:31] <liz4rd> meh w/e i think this one cuz i own it :P and its fun to see everyones screenshots
[01:31] <liz4rd> for users ing kubuntu
[01:37] <uli> HI, i have a problem
[01:37] <uli> i cannot get the arts engine to run
[01:37] <uli> with amarok
[01:37] <uli> anyone an idea?
[01:38] <uli> oke, i can start amarok, go to the options, where to choose "engine" and then i choose "aRts" ok. but there are no options to configure this ARTS below
[01:39] <uli> i already tried with apt-get install amarok-arts, and "already newest" was the message..
[01:39] <uli> has someone an idea what might be wrong, or what i have to download still?
[01:41] <uli> ... anyone here?????
[01:42] <uli> all asleep???
[01:43] <airox> hi :)
[01:43] <uli> hi
[01:43] <airox> I installed ubuntu(!), and then installed kubuntu-desktop. Can I delete ubuntu-desktop now ?
[01:44] <uli> forget it, all asleep in here
[01:44] <airox> hehe
[01:44] <airox> The answer can wait I guess ;)
[01:45] <airox> So, you're having troubles with amarok ?
[01:46] <uli> yes, i dont get the arts engine to make anything...
[01:46] <airox> Is it running 
[01:46] <airox> ?
[01:46] <uli> i dont know
[01:47] <airox> What doesn't work with amarok then ?
[01:47] <uli> i can select "arts" as engine it in amarok but nothing works after that... no sound, no music... if i try xmms, all works fine.
[01:47] <airox> hmm
[01:48] <airox> I had something similar.
[01:48] <airox> Streaming audio can play in XMMS, not in amarok.
[01:48] <uli> but i want to use the arts engine, becuase i saw, there are aRTs applet available for the taskpanel
[01:48] <airox> And running them both also delivered problems.
[01:48] <airox> I installed this package: akode-mpeg 
[01:48] <uli> well, i didnt get any sound out of arts, although i made a fresh install
[01:48] <airox> And afterwards the streaming part was running :)
[01:49] <microhaxo> man
[01:49] <airox> And I could run XMMS and amarok side by side
[01:49] <uli> k, ill check it ou
[01:49] <airox> microhaxo!
[01:49] <microhaxo> wha?
[01:49] <airox> Still strugling with cedega ? :)
[01:49] <microhaxo> i said fck it
[01:49] <microhaxo> lol
[01:49] <airox> :D
[01:49] <microhaxo> anywa
[01:49] <microhaxo> NOW
[01:49] <microhaxo> americas army wont load
[01:49] <microhaxo> GL_EXT_bgra not supported - bailing out.
[01:49] <airox> hehe
[01:49] <airox> Tried Enemy Territory yet microhaxo ?
[01:49] <airox> Nice game ;)
[01:50] <microhaxo> nah, Americas army :D
[01:50] <microhaxo> but it wont WORK!
[01:50] <airox> hehe :)
[01:50] <microhaxo> damn errors
[01:50] <microhaxo> and no one can help me
[01:50] <microhaxo> GL_EXT_bgra not supported - bailing out.
[01:53] <uli> thx very much!!
[01:53] <airox> uli: Does it work ?
[01:53] <uli> akode and libmad0 made it work
[01:53] <airox> nice! :D
[01:53] <airox> enjoy ;)
[01:54] <uli> but still one problem left :-D
[01:54] <airox> Which is ? :)
[01:55] <uli> there is the possiblity to add an aRts applet to the panel... but i always get an error "applet could not be loaded" while trying this
[01:55] <airox> Same thing over here :/
[01:55] <uli> something for the performance, controls in the panel ;-)
[01:55] <uli> :-(
[01:55] <airox> I'm using sound mixer or something.
[01:56] <airox> It's also in the add applet menu.
[01:56] <uli> this works but, i wanted to figure out, if there were options available for start/stop/pause/volume  and all that in the panel with 1 click
[01:56] <airox> ah
[01:57] <uli> and i thought the arts panel might do this
[01:57] <airox> Well the sound mixer can adjust volume.
[01:57] <uli> the amarok tray too, but... but.. thats not enough :-D
[01:58] <airox> hehe :)
[01:59] <uli> i wonder... if there is still something to download
[02:00] <airox> I'm deleting stuff over here :)
[02:00] <airox> So I wanted to delete the whole GNOME scene ;)
[02:00] <uli> u changing to kde?
[02:01] <airox> Yeah.
[02:01] <airox> I just like the way it feels.
[02:02] <airox> And better support for my pda and mobile phone (bluetooth) etcetera :)
[02:02] <uli> i like kde also better
[02:04] <uli> ah there is a control panel for xmms too, damn this is a dependancy problem, i d better do this tomorrow^^
[02:04] <airox> :)
[02:05] <airox> Anybody has experience with bluetooth kde framework and voice gateway ?
[02:05] <uli> thx for the held, airox, cy0lator
[02:08] <airox> I still am in a search of a nice mail notifier.
[02:15] <apollo2011> I used to have Konqueror automatically refresh when new files were added to the directory it was in, if they were created by another window/program.  Now it seems to have stopped doing that and I can't figure out where that setting is
[02:16] <uli> there should be maybe with thunderbird. but i didnt try that out
[02:17] <uli> i remember the winXp thunderbird version, that was nice: a small icon in the tray and a "message" symbol added, when new mail is arrived + sound
[02:17] <uli> i guess this is available in linux too
[02:21] <airox> hmm
[02:24] <airox> knotes is nice :)
[02:24] <airox> damn i love that program
[02:25] <microhaxo> Guys
[02:25] <microhaxo> i dloaded some NEW unnoficial drivers
[02:25] <microhaxo> they are a .deb
[02:26] <microhaxo> how do i run em?
[02:27] <airox> You install them with `dpkg -i <package>.deb`
[02:27] <microhaxo> l
[02:27] <microhaxo> k
[02:27] <microhaxo> do i need the <>?
[02:27] <airox> dpkg -i nameofile
[02:27] <airox> without the tags
[02:28] <microhaxo> doesnt work?
[02:28] <airox> microhaxo: as root, so use sudo
[02:28] <microhaxo> dammit
[02:28] <microhaxo> it says
[02:28] <microhaxo> i386 doesnt match system amd64
[02:28] <microhaxo> bullshit
[02:28] <microhaxo> dammit
[02:28] <microhaxo> this can run 32bit programs
[02:29] <airox> You have a AMD64 machine ?
[02:29] <microhaxo> yes
[02:29] <airox> Glad I haven't got one ;)
[02:30] <microhaxo> BAH
[02:30] <microhaxo> it is a good processor
[02:30] <microhaxo> its this DAMN OS of a release
[02:30] <microhaxo> BUGGY As hell
[02:30] <microhaxo> no packages are offered at all
[02:30] <_rob> anyone...
[02:30] <microhaxo> shouldnt be released if there is no support!
[02:30] <_rob> what is the name of the program/script that starts kde
[02:30] <airox> _rob: no one
[02:30] <microhaxo> startx
[02:30] <airox> startkde ?
[02:30] <_rob> as in.. what do i put in a kubuntu.desktop file
[02:30] <_rob> there is no startkde
[02:31] <_rob> i dont have the kubuntu-desktop metapackage though
[02:31] <airox> There is startkde :/
[02:31] <airox> /usr/bin/startkde
[02:31] <_rob> airox: I dont have it
[02:31] <airox> O_o
[02:31] <_rob> maybe because i dont have kubuntu-desktop
[02:31] <airox> hehe
[02:32] <airox> hmm
[02:32] <_rob> because of a conflict with the mesa gl driver or something like that?
[02:32] <_rob> it makes me remove the non-free nvidia driver which i unfortunately need
[02:32] <airox> You have to install kubuntu-desktop and it will be available in your session manager (KDM or GDM).
[02:32] <airox> KDE that is.
[02:33] <_rob> kubuntu-desktop makes me REMOVE nivida-glx and xlibmesa-glu... the first of which i want
[02:33] <airox> Can't you install them afterwards ?
[02:34] <_rob> if i try, bye to kubuntu-desktop
[02:34] <airox> Ah :)
[02:34] <airox> Strange ;)
[02:34] <_rob> and even though i now have that, still no startkde
[02:34] <_rob> ah
[02:35] <_rob> ideas?
[02:37] <airox> nope
[02:37] <_rob> agh
[02:39] <cameron> hey, anyone who can help me out?  Im new to *nix and am having some troubles buliding/installing gtk
[02:40] <cameron> anyone?
[02:48] <crimsun> truechaos: you don't need to compile gtk+
[02:48] <truechaos> its included?
[02:48] <crimsun> truechaos: libgtk2.0-dev is the installable package if you need to compile gtk2 apps
[02:49] <crimsun> libgtk2.0-0 is the runtime package that's installed with ubuntu
[02:49] <truechaos> ok, im having troubles getting firefox installed then, its claiming i dont have gtk :P
[02:51] <truechaos> error im getting is...
[02:52] <truechaos> Fail: Could not find GTK+ user interface toolkit
[02:52] <microhaxo> open up package manager search for gtk and dload it
[02:53] <crimsun> truechaos: didn't you aptitude install mozilla-firefox?
[02:53] <truechaos> aptitude?  note, ive been using this (my first *nix) for about 2 hours, ive got no idea what anything means... just kinda learning as i go :P
[02:54] <_rob> can anyone give me a copy of startkde?
[03:41] <Ghetek> how do i get a list of running processes and kill one?
[03:41] <Ghetek> amarok crashed
[03:51] <sbcl3> can one export the journal entries in kontact? i'd like to keep a journal there but i'm hesitant if i can't export it...
[04:15] <sbcl3> can one export the journal entries in kontact? i'd like to keep a journal there but i'm hesitant if i can't export it...
[04:17] <penguinboy> i would liek to know that as well
[04:18] <penguinboy> MONCHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:19] <liz4rd> MONCHYY , PENGUINBOY!!!!
[04:19] <penguinboy> lizardboy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:19] <penguinboy> when did you show up???
[04:19] <monchy> hiyo
[04:19] <liz4rd> liz4rdboy :P
[04:20] <sbcl3> can one export the journal entries in kontact? i'd like to keep a journal there but i'm hesitant if i can't export it...
[04:20] <monchy> msn is broken :(
[04:20] <sbcl3> msn? die
[04:21] <penguinboy> hey Liz4rdBoy.....seen transgress tonight????????????
[04:22] <liz4rd> eah
[04:22] <liz4rd> yah
[04:22] <liz4rd> he phoned me :)
[04:22] <penguinboy> how was your day, my friend?
[04:22] <monchy> liz4rd has seen him in his dreams
[04:22] <penguinboy> he better not
[04:22] <liz4rd> good you?
[04:22] <penguinboy> i am a jealous type
[04:22] <sbcl3> no one knows?
[04:23] <sbcl3> (the kontact issue)
[04:23] <monchy> he dream cheated on you lol
[04:23] <penguinboy> LOL
[04:23] <liz4rd> if we did we would tell you :P
[04:23] <penguinboy> he's my cute little lizard
[04:23] <liz4rd> yes my lil rice muffin
[04:23] <liz4rd> :P!!!!!
[04:23] <liz4rd> brb
[04:23] <penguinboy> lol
[04:23] <monchy> haha
[04:23] <penguinboy> k
[04:24] <penguinboy> monch...I need trangress to set up my wireless!
[04:24] <monchy> so track him down
[04:25] <penguinboy> sniff sniff i do not know hoe
[04:26] <monchy> play some http://www.addictinggames.com/kittencannon.html to keep you busy
[04:26] <penguinboy> hey...I just got a great E-mail...it is offering a fantastic buy on Cialis
[04:27] <penguinboy> dang...no shockwave
[04:27] <penguinboy> can you apt-get shockwave?
[04:27] <monchy> don't think so
[04:27] <penguinboy> hey KK
[04:28] <penguinboy> where is liz4rd my little love kitten????
[04:29] <transgress> penguinboy: don't make me kill you
[04:29] <penguinboy> HEY TRANSGRESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:29] <penguinboy> I hear you have been phone chattin' with my little love kitten!
[04:29] <sbcl3> is there a quick way to change the order of the windows?
[04:30] <sbcl3> (i have five below, i want one to show before another)
[04:31] <penguinboy> hey hey seth
[04:34] <seth_k> quiet tonight?
[04:34] <penguinboy> yes
[04:36] <penguinboy> monchy is playing a game involving shooting cats out of a cannon, i think transgress is on a customer service call, and I do not know where my little love kitten, liz4rd , has disappeared to
[04:36] <penguinboy> MEz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:37] <monchy> hey that's a fun flash game ;p
[04:37] <penguinboy> i need to download shockwave once day
[04:37] <penguinboy> one
[04:38] <transgress> penguinboy: you on jabber?
[04:38] <penguinboy> Mex isn't it 5:30 am in your neck of the woods?
[04:38] <penguinboy> yes
[04:38] <penguinboy> your ofline
[04:39] <transgress> eh no i'm not
[04:39] <penguinboy> mmm
[04:39] <transgress> try disconnecting and reconnecting
[04:39] <transgress> and also add transgress@jabber.unoc.net
[04:39] <penguinboy> [10:38:57 PM]  *** transgress@jabber.org is Offline
[04:40] <penguinboy> [10:40:06 PM]  *** transgress@jabber.org is Offline
[04:40] <transgress> add the other username i have see if it works
[04:55] <Bicchi> how do i install wine so that i can run windows applications from ubuntu.
[04:56] <seth_k> sudo apt-get install wine :P
[04:56] <seth_k> or click wine in (k|S)ynaptic
[04:56] <MyGhetek> kontact weather to work with fahrenheit not celsius?
[04:58] <Bicchi> seth_k: i do not find wine with synaptic?
[04:58] <seth_k> Bicchi, it is in universe
[04:58] <penguinboy> are all of your repositories checked
[04:58] <seth_k> are you running Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[04:58] <Bicchi> kubuntu
[04:58] <seth_k> okay
[04:58] <seth_k> in a terminal
[04:58] <Bicchi> no kde
[04:58] <seth_k> type sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:59] <seth_k> You will see some lines that start with the # sign
[04:59] <seth_k> remove the # sign in front of the 4 lines that talk about "universe"
[04:59] <seth_k> then save the file, and restart (k|S)ynaptic
[05:00] <Bicchi> yeah, i have those removed allready
[05:01] <seth_k> okay, then try doing a Reload in Synaptic
[05:01] <Bicchi> i have done that also
[05:01] <seth_k> :/
[05:01] <seth_k> what architecture are you running?
[05:01] <Bicchi> and when i search for wine, i  only get wine-doc
[05:01] <Bicchi> 64 biut
[05:01] <seth_k> ah ha
[05:01] <seth_k> no 64 bit pkgs for wine
[05:02] <Bicchi> shot
[05:02] <seth_k> :/
[05:02] <Bicchi> do you know when a release will be made?
[05:02] <seth_k> no idea, I don't have anything 64-bit
[05:02] <seth_k> so I don't follow it
[05:02] <Bicchi> cool, thanks for you help
[05:03] <seth_k> sorry about that
[05:03] <seth_k> might ask on the forums
[05:03] <seth_k> they might have an answer for you
[05:03] <Bicchi> yeah, i am searching now
[05:03] <seth_k> 64-bit wine wouldn't do you much good since almost all Windows apps are still 32-bit
[05:04] <seth_k> might have to run 32-bit wine in a chroot or something
[05:04] <Bicchi> yeah but a 64 bit wine could perhaps run the 32 bit apps.
[05:05] <seth_k> yeah, I don't know enough to tell you whether it would or not. Since this isn't kde-specific, I'd ask over in #ubuntu too :)
[05:05] <Bicchi> yeah, let me try that also
[05:06] <MyGhetek> i can never open kate from within root http://pastebin.com/300723 i get some weird errors
[05:07] <Bicchi> MyGhetek: yeah, me too
[05:07] <Bicchi> MyGhetek: so i use gedit
[05:07] <MyGhetek> do you know how to fix it?
[05:07] <Bicchi> MyGhetek: nope
[05:07] <MyGhetek> root@Ghetek:/home/administrator # gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:07] <MyGhetek> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[05:07] <MyGhetek> Xlib: No protocol specified
[05:07] <MyGhetek> (gedit:9327): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[05:07] <MyGhetek> my gedit does it too
[05:08] <Bicchi> MyGhetek: then its different i only get it with kate
[05:09] <Bicchi> MyGhetek: Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-john" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[05:09] <Bicchi> Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"
[05:09] <Bicchi> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[05:09] <Bicchi> thats what i get
[05:10] <sproingie> just copy .xauthority from whatever user has the console open
[05:10] <Bicchi> sproingie: could you elavorate
[05:11] <sproingie> [20:07]  <MyGhetek> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[05:11] <sproingie> you just need to copy your .Xauthority to root's home dir
[05:11] <MyGhetek> how do i do that
[05:12] <sproingie> or xauth add root's .Xauthority ... never actually done it that way
[05:12] <sproingie> it's a file in your home dir, named .Xauthority
[05:12] <sproingie> copy it to /root
[05:12] <seth_k> MyGhetek, kate is not supposed to be opened with root
[05:12] <seth_k> MyGhetek, use kwrite
[05:12] <sproingie> seth_k: what if one wants to edit a file as root?
[05:12] <MyGhetek> yeah but gedit is same error
[05:12] <seth_k> same error? probably different cause
[05:12] <seth_k> imo
[05:13] <sproingie> the kdecache thing is something i don't know about.  the connection refused is due to missing xauthority
[05:13] <sproingie> i used to just "xauth +" back in the day but that doesnt work anymore
[05:14] <sproingie> or maybe it was a different command, i don't recall
[05:15] <sproingie> xhost
[05:16] <sproingie> xhost +local:root
[05:18] <Bicchi> MyGhetek: try  kdesu kate                  or                    kdesu gedit
[05:18] <MyGhetek> k
[05:18] <sproingie> i always just xauth +local:root
[05:18] <N17R0> eh whatsup
[05:19] <sproingie> tho that seems to open all local connections
[05:19] <MyGhetek> how can i see the open processes?
[05:19] <N17R0> i have a annoying problem with the sounds of firefox
[05:19] <Bicchi> MyGhetek: did it work?
[05:19] <MyGhetek> yeah kdesu worked
[05:19] <MyGhetek> thanks
[05:22] <N17R0> when u do Ctrl+F in firefox, and search for a word in a website wich do not exist, it become RED and bleeps a error sound. But now (i dunno how) that sounds bleep is gonne, and now the bleep sound comes from my motherboard :/
[05:22] <N17R0> how can i repair this ?
[05:24] <Bicchi> actually it comes from my motherboard also and it allways has in my case.
[05:26] <N17R0> hmm, then i just noticed that today, or i become crazy
[05:27] <N17R0> i swear i heard a normal sound few days ago
[05:48] <liz4rd> so whats everyone doing?
[05:50] <monchy> playing kitten cannon
[05:50] <liz4rd> lol
[05:51] <monchy> slow night with no IM
[06:18] <sproingie> man, i wish cdecl were built into the C preprocessor
[06:19] <sproingie> i'd love to do something like #cdecl declare signal as function returning pointer to function returning void
[06:19] <sproingie> which parses in my brain far easier than void (*signal())()
[06:50] <sbcl3> is there some sort of "encarta" for linux?
[07:15] <osh> sbcl3: en.wikipedia.org?
[07:16] <sbcl3> osh: i meant some sort of encyclopedia software
[07:16] <sbcl3> a step beyond wikipedia
[07:27] <osh> sbcl3: I thought wikipedia was an encyclopedia. Besides, the database is free for download so you could just write your own wrapper around it to browswe it offline. 
[07:36] <sbcl3> osh: i'll probably do that with wikibooks..but not wikipedia...i don't want to use up 40GB just for an encyclopedia
[08:04] <microhaxo> omg
[08:04] <monchy> what's wrong now lol
[08:04] <liz4rd> :O
[08:04] <liz4rd> OMG HWAT
[08:04] <liz4rd> what *
[08:07] <monchy> guess nothing was wrong
[08:07] <liz4rd> lol
[08:07] <liz4rd> i think he forgot but didnt wanan look like a fool
[08:12] <microhaxo> kubuntu sucks
[08:12] <microhaxo> :|
[08:12] <microhaxo> atleast the 64bit one
[08:12] <microhaxo> eh
[08:12] <monchy> blasphemy!~
[08:13] <microhaxo> hahah
[08:13] <microhaxo> you run the amd64 release and say otherwise
[08:13] <microhaxo> there are no packages
[08:13] <microhaxo> nothing
[08:13] <microhaxo> its bullshit i say
[08:13] <microhaxo> DONT RELEASE AN OS IF YOU DONT HAVE SOFTWARE TO BACK IT UP!
[08:13] <monchy> well i was smart enough to not buy a 64 bit processor right away ;)
[08:14] <monchy> not sure how fc4 is with 64 bit support but you may want to check it out
[08:15] <microhaxo> that sucks too
[08:15] <microhaxo> i have went WAY TO  Far into this to quit
[08:15] <microhaxo> lol
[08:15] <microhaxo> if it wasnt for all these damn problems
[08:15] <microhaxo> hell i can fix kde without help, it quits i go to the xorg.conf file
[08:15] <microhaxo> lol
[08:16] <monchy> i imagine things will be better for 64 bit users in breezy
[08:16] <monchy> not long to go
[08:17] <microhaxo> wtf is breezy
[08:17] <monchy> lol
[08:18] <monchy> please be kidding :p
[08:20] <monchy> it's the name of the next release of (k)ubuntu. breezy badger
[08:20] <microhaxo> when is this expecteD?
[08:20] <microhaxo> will it be kde?
[08:21] <monchy> october, and yes there will be a kubuntu version of it
[08:21] <microhaxo> eh
[08:21] <microhaxo> thats a ways of
[08:22] <microhaxo> f
[08:22] <monchy> ah the time will fly right by
[08:23] <mrmanic> microhaxo: you could always do gentoo or lfs
[08:23] <microhaxo> err
[08:24] <microhaxo> im too far into this os
[08:24] <microhaxo> cant go back
[08:24] <microhaxo> lol
[08:24] <microhaxo> installed way too much shit
[08:24] <microhaxo>  ,/ configured
[08:24] <microhaxo> plus i like this os
[08:24] <microhaxo> redhat was shit
[08:24] <microhaxo> knoppix was alright
[08:24] <microhaxo> this seems best
[08:24] <microhaxo> BTW i want a SMALL console on my desktop that is like SEMI TRANSPARENT
[08:25] <microhaxo> how do i do so>??
[08:25] <monchy> core 4 will be ok once they get some updates out to fix alot of the bugs
[08:25] <microhaxo> Guys
[08:25] <microhaxo> if i get cedega for i386 its not gonna work is it
[08:26] <microhaxo> CEDEGA cant even fkin run on my amd64 kernel right?!
[08:27] <monchy> http://transgaming.org/forum/ is the forums for cedega micro maybe you can find some answers there
[08:40] <microhaxo> whats a good VIDEO PLAYER
[08:40] <microhaxo> ?
[08:45] <microhaxo> is there a package with all codecs in it?
[08:46] <monchy> http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[08:55] <cewe_fs16> gggggggg
[09:12] <microhaxo> guys how can i install a console on my desktop like a transparent one?
[09:15] <pd_> microhaxo, 
[09:16] <microhaxo> yea
[09:16] <microhaxo> ?
[09:16] <pd_> do u want ur console to be transparent
[09:16] <microhaxo> yea but i want it real time
[09:16] <microhaxo> none of that wait 1 second to load bacground
[09:17] <pd_> microhaxo, did u try the settings
[09:18] <pd_> it has an option to make ur Konsole transparent for mc too
[09:18] <pd_> settings - > schema
[09:23] <MyGhetek> how do i change my audio engine?
[09:24] <MyGhetek> i need to switch to esd
[09:24] <pd_> MyGhetek, esd according to me is for gnome
[09:24] <pd_> in KDE u should use arts
[09:25] <MyGhetek> i need to run a game that needs esd
[09:25] <MyGhetek> do you know how to change it?
[09:25] <microhaxo> Yo
[09:25] <microhaxo> how do i make KDE GLASS LIKE?
[09:26] <pd_> MyGhetek, u might have to install the libraries for esd for that
[09:26] <MyGhetek> already got em
[09:27] <pd_> MyGhetek, cant u intruct the game to look for arts
[09:28] <MyGhetek> nope
[09:28] <paxon> Hi.
[09:28] <paxon> Anyone knows how to stop a printing job?
[09:29] <pd_> paxon, if the print job is in the que u can use lprm
[09:29] <pd_> but if it has already started printing i generally switch off the printer :)
[09:30] <paxon> lol
[09:30] <paxon> So no way to simply abort?
[09:32] <microhaxo> yo guys
[09:32] <microhaxo> is there any way
[09:32] <microhaxo> to install the 32bit kernel over my amd64 release lol?
[09:33] <microhaxo> ubuntu
[09:33] <microhaxo> #ubuntu
[09:41] <slow-motion> hello
[09:42] <microhaxo> same day different shit...
[09:43] <slow-motion> kubuntu says me while booting it has a temporary failure in name resolution
[09:43] <slow-motion> i relly did not do anything. i had not changed something
[09:44] <microhaxo> what version of kde is runnin in kubuntu
[09:44] <slow-motion> now3.4.1
[09:44] <pd_> slow-motion, were u connect to the internet while the time of booting
[09:45] <slow-motion> yes it makes the namesserver resolution and trys to connect
[09:45] <slow-motion> i gave a hardware router 
[09:45] <slow-motion> have
[09:45] <pd_> slow-motion, does this happens always
[09:45] <slow-motion> since yesterday always
[09:46] <pd_> slow-motion, at whcih stage does it say this error
[09:47] <microhaxo> whats the best THEME FOR kde?
[09:47] <microhaxo> in your opinion
[09:47] <slow-motion> it was working before but then i get some complete hangs of kubuntu, i even cant use the keyboard anymore and have to push the reset button
[09:48] <slow-motion> at the stage of booting where he does everything and get a OK for that
[09:48] <pd_> microhaxo, i did not like the standard themes that came with it so I use my own settings
[09:48] <pd_> slow-motion, does that error come during time of ntp sync
[09:50] <slow-motion> i was using a cheap network card with a rtl8139c chipset and yesterday it stopped working under linux and windows, now i use a sk net flash card and it works under windows but not under linux
[09:50] <microhaxo> Hmm, KDE IS ACTING SLOW
[09:50] <microhaxo> ?
[09:50] <liz4rd> OMG!...CHEESE!
[09:51] <slow-motion> it comes close the the ntp sync, but the ntp sync gives no errors but it also did not work, the nameserver resolution is not working
[09:56] <slow-motion> i dont know what could be wrong. i did not changed anything at the configuration
[10:11] <theD3viL> Why my mozilla-mplayer wonts play mpeg files or avi or whatever files ?
[10:22] <slow-motion> bye
[11:30] <microhaxo> WTF
[11:54] <LuNaTiK^GuY> hi guys ;)
[12:25] <microhaxo> #ubuntu
[12:26] <microhaxo> dammit
[12:26] <microhaxo> anywho
[12:26] <microhaxo> guys i have a ATI RPM
[12:26] <microhaxo> how do i convert it to deb to install?
[12:27] <microhaxo> #linuxhelp
[12:34] <LuNaTiK^GuY> lemme try and find something
[12:34] <LuNaTiK^GuY> sudo alien package_file.rpm
[12:35] <LuNaTiK^GuY> microhaxo: sudo alien package_file.rpm
[12:35] <LuNaTiK^GuY> where package_file.rpm is ur rpm file
[12:54] <microhaxo> thats it
[12:54] <microhaxo> someone with ati card send me your XORG.conf file plz
[12:57] <microhaxo> #ubuntu
[01:07] <airox> I installed ubuntu(!), and then installed kubuntu-desktop. Can I delete ubuntu-desktop now ?
[01:09] <microhaxo> guys, enemy territory says that mesa driver is what i have but fglrx info shows ATI as my driver
[01:09] <microhaxo> so
[01:10] <microhaxo> how the hell do i fix this?
[01:10] <microhaxo> You are using software Mesa (no hardware acceleration)!
[01:10] <microhaxo>  Driver DLL used: libGL.so.1
[01:10] <microhaxo>  If this is intentional, add
[01:10] <microhaxo>        "+set r_allowSoftwareGL 1"
[01:11] <microhaxo> #linuxhelp
[01:12] <airox> Anybody perhaps know if there is such a thing like a stream browser for amarok ?
[01:12] <airox> Like winamp has ?
[01:25] <microhaxo> FUCK YOU DEBBIE!
[01:25] <microhaxo> damn UBUNTU moderated my ass
[01:25] <microhaxo> :|
[01:25] <Riddell> microhaxo: do not use that sort of language here
[01:26] <microhaxo> Ban my ass
[01:26] <microhaxo> i dont care
[01:26] <LuNaTiK^GuY> wwoooo whats goin on here
[01:26] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ?
[01:28] <microhaxo> im starting stuff
[01:28] <microhaxo> thats waht
[01:29] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ok
[01:29] <microhaxo> lol
[01:29] <LuNaTiK^GuY> now can you give us more details?
[01:29] <microhaxo> Well
[01:29] <microhaxo> im mad cuz UNBUNTU devoiced me
[01:29] <microhaxo> and
[01:29] <microhaxo> ENEMY territory thinks i dont have 3d acceleration
[01:29] <microhaxo> so..
[01:29] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and is it Kubuntu's fault??
[01:30] <microhaxo> for enemy territory
[01:30] <microhaxo> yes
[01:30] <microhaxo> for
[01:30] <microhaxo> ubuntu no
[01:30] <microhaxo> :D
[01:30] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ok...Enemy Territory
[01:30] <microhaxo> yea
[01:30] <LuNaTiK^GuY> lets try to get around this
[01:30] <microhaxo> k
[01:30] <microhaxo> wanna know the error?
[01:30] <LuNaTiK^GuY> from wot i recall, you've got an ATI card?
[01:30] <microhaxo> Yes
[01:31] <LuNaTiK^GuY> did u install the 3d accelerated driver?
[01:37] <LuNaTiK^GuY> hey peeps...any1 ever played Enemy Territory with an ATI card
[01:37] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ?
[03:05] <LuNaTiK^GuY> how can i add prelinking to kubuntu?
[03:18] <Mason59> Hi all.  Does anyone know what the default password is for user postgres after installation?
[03:20] <buz> usually none at all
[03:21] <Mason59> thanks buz.  sudo su postgres works
[03:21] <Mason59> :)
[03:24] <Do-It-Now> hi all
[03:26] <LuNaTiK^GuY> hi all...is there any program i can use to make dvd-authoring
[03:26] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ie....create a dvd myself...with chapters etc?
[03:48] <Gombeni> I have always used mc in other distros, now I have switched to kubuntu and it is not installed by default. So it raised this question for me if there is a good alternative for mc or not.
[03:49] <Gombeni> Does anyone use an alternative recommended way?
[03:49] <LuNaTiK^GuY> wots rc?
[03:49] <LuNaTiK^GuY> sorry
[03:49] <LuNaTiK^GuY> wots mc?
[03:49] <Gombeni> midnight commander
[03:49] <LuNaTiK^GuY> wot is it for?
[03:50] <Gombeni> simple file management
[03:50] <LuNaTiK^GuY> like?
[03:50] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'm a noob ;)
[03:50] <Gombeni> like NC in old DOS days?
[03:50] <Gombeni> me too :D
[03:51] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'm afraid i cant help much.....
[03:53] <buz> why not use mc if you like it?
[03:53] <Gombeni> Does anyone recommends using/not using mc
[03:53] <buz> i hate it 
[03:54] <Gombeni> that's what I needed to hear
[03:54] <buz> but i always hated the commander apps so thats just me
[03:54] <Gombeni> so you may have an alternative way,
[03:54] <buz> mc is in the repositories anyway
[03:54] <buz> i use konqueror ;)
[03:55] <Gombeni> sometimes I need to manage a lot of files, when I don't need anything but speed
[03:55] <LuNaTiK^GuY> my sources list is fully updated
[03:55] <LuNaTiK^GuY> yet i still dont have the most recent version of firefox :(
[03:55] <Gombeni> in those tiny amounts of times I have always used mc to manage files
[03:56] <Gombeni> now I am trying to learn any other good alternative
[03:56] <Gombeni> perhaps using Konqi in text mode
[04:00] <leafw> Hi
[04:00] <leafw> is it possible to install kubuntu from a livecd ?
[04:00] <leafw> which boot image should one choose
[04:01] <buz> LuNaTiK^GuY: there is no updated firefox in the repos
[04:01] <LuNaTiK^GuY> :(
[04:01] <buz> it sticks at 1.0.2 but gets security fixes
[04:01] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but i need the latest to get the skins :)
[04:01] <buz> click on the bugtraq link it shows
[04:02] <buz> theres an explanation what you should do
[04:03] <LuNaTiK^GuY> wot??
[04:04] <Riddell> leafw: you can't install from a live CD currently
[04:04] <Riddell> leafw: boot with the defaults unless there is a problem
[04:04] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ok ok found
[04:04] <leafw> Riddell, well, ok ... just run out of CDs and need to install kubuntu
[04:04] <leafw> xD
[04:05] <leafw> netinstall could be an option, but don't know about this ppc doing that
[04:06] <cspan> hi, anyone here has gambas installed on a ppc?
[04:06] <cspan> when i install it and try to run it
[04:06] <cspan> it segfaults
[04:23] <markc> what packages do I need to install to do a debian/ruls binary for a deb-src package ?
[04:24] <markc> I don't want to install the kitchen sink, just enought to do a debian/rules thing
[04:24] <markc> debhelper ?
[04:27] <Riddell> markc: what do you mean by "do a debian/rules thing"?
[04:28] <markc> just to build a basic source package... like, I have gcc, patch diff, etc, but I suspect I need some debian related packages to help build... err, debian packages... new install of kubuntu
[04:28] <markc> ie; debian/rules:8: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk: No such file or directory
[04:28] <markc> etc
[04:28] <Riddell> fakeroot, devscripts, build-essential, cdbs
[04:28] <Riddell> compile with  debuild
[04:28] <Riddell> it'll tell you what else needs to be installed
[04:28] <markc> ah thank you riddell :)
[04:30] <markc> wow, debuild is sweet... thanks for that one
[04:33] <Riddell> debuild just calls dpkg-buildpackage but with some extra checks
[04:35] <Dark_Sith> hello peopl
[04:35] <markc> Riddell> is there such a thing as NMU packages for breezy ?
[04:35] <Dark_Sith> anyone uses k3b ?
[04:36] <dewey> yes ask your ?
[04:37] <Dark_Sith> i can't seem to burn dvd's, i keep gettint a growisofs error
[04:37] <Riddell> markc: no.  in ubuntu anyone can upload any package (maintainers have privilages on none, universe or all)
[04:39] <markc> Riddell> really! that should help cover ground... I'm trying to build qjaqckctl but it fell in a heap... I'll keep trying... where are the details of how to upload something if I succedd ?
[04:40] <jeramy> Dark_Sith: I wonder if you have the dvd tools package...
[04:40] <Dark_Sith> jeramy: yes i do
[04:40] <jeramy> Is there a -r or +r variant?
[04:41] <Riddell> markc: you have to become a member then a maintainer to upload, before that get a MOTU to upload, either poke me or ask on #ubuntu-motu
[04:42] <jeramy> Hm, I only see dvd+rw-tools...
[04:42] <markc> Riddell> okay, cool... there are a few audio apps I would like to puch along
[04:42] <markc> push
[04:43] <jeramy> Oh, there's dvdrtools, tool...
[04:43] <jeramy> too.
[04:44] <Riddell> markc: tell me when you have a working qjackctl package and I'll take a look at it
[04:45] <Riddell> markc: patches need to be in debian/patches  and version number should be changed to -Xubuntu1 instead of -XbuildY
[04:56] <LuNaTiK^GuY> how can i install new themes for firefox with Kubuntu
[05:05] <LuNaTiK^GuY> where is kwin-baghira installed?
[05:06] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i downloaded it from Kynaptic
[05:06] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but hwo can i use it?
[05:06] <spiral> I can't upgrade to kdesdk 3.4.1, is it normal ?
[05:06] <spiral> LuNaTiK^GuY: go in kcontrol & look for look&feel
[05:07] <LuNaTiK^GuY> appearance and themes?
[05:08] <LuNaTiK^GuY> found :)
[05:11] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'm off peeps
[05:11] <LuNaTiK^GuY> cya! :)
[05:12] <LuNaTiK^GuY> kubuntu is AWESOME!!!!!!!!! actually easier than windows for office use!!!
[05:12] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and eye-candy is...........well............(GRIN)
[05:12] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ciao!
[05:22] <markc> riddell> bugger, both qjckctl and qsynth fail with -> configure: error: Qt library not found. Maybe QTDIR isn't properly set
[05:23] <markc> riddell> but it is set properly -> echo $QTDIR = /usr/share/qt3
[05:26] <Rainbow> ciao
[05:27] <Riddell> markc: is it set in debian/rules?
[05:28] <Thomas2> Hi ... I do have a problem using kubuntu, regarding my sound card. 
[05:28] <kalenedrael> ok
[05:29] <kalenedrael> and...?
[05:29] <Thomas2> symptoms: soundcard works under gnome, but not under kubuntu
[05:29] <Thomas2> s/kubuntu/kde
[05:29] <Thomas2> Gives me the "Device /dev/dsp is not writeable" error message.
[05:29] <Thomas2> any suggestions?
[05:37] <Drako60> has anyone had problems with apt-get update piping the packages.gz file it downloads to bzip2?
[05:41] <markc> riddell> in the cinfigure line, yes ->  QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3 CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS)" ./configure --host=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) --buil$ ... etc
[05:42] <BkE> hi :)
[05:42] <Thomas2> hi...
[05:43] <BkE> I just wanna say, I love Kubuntu. I've tested some distro's and i think kubuntu is the best one.
[05:43] <Riddell> markc: it seems to have built fine before
[05:43] <Riddell> BkE: you're welcome :)
[05:43] <BkE> ( Operating System ) Linux Ubuntu 5.04 - hoary Kernel: 2.6.10-5-386 GNU/Linux | Xorg: 6.8.2 | Desktop: KDE: 3.4.1 | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.4.3
[05:43] <BkE> ;)
[05:48] <markc> Riddell> in hoary ? ... like I say, both qjackctl and qsynth both fail at the same point so maybe I still have something not set up right, or a missing devel package... this is an amd64/breezy box but that should not matter
[05:50] <Riddell> markc: yes, I see the same problem.  strange
[05:50] <markc> Riddell> hmm,  error: Qt library not found... maybe x86_64 does matter
[05:51] <markc> Riddell> using gcc-4.0 ?
[05:52] <Riddell> markc: amd64 doesn't matter, I get same Qt library not found issue on breezy x86
[05:52] <Riddell> markc: it's because it's not finding /usr/include/qt3
[05:53] <markc> Riddell> hmm,  error: Qt library not found. <- ? that's a strange header error :-)
[05:53] <Riddell> markc: if you look at config.log you'll see the error is that it can't find qglobal.h
[05:55] <markc> Riddell> ah right -> ll /usr/share/qt3/include/qglobal.h exists for me
[05:55] <Riddell> markc: /usr/share ?
[05:56] <Riddell> markc: it's looking in /usr/include but needs to look in /usr/include/qt3 as well
[05:56] <markc> Riddell> a link... /usr/share/qt3/include -> /usr/include/qt3
[05:58] <markc> Riddell> right, I thought it would default to looking in $QTDIR/include
[05:59] <Riddell> markc: it should but it seems to use an old build system which doesn't
[06:05] <markc> Riddell> I've tried adding --includedir=/usr/include/qt3 to the configure line... it's there in the start of the configure output, but still the same error
[06:43] <TrueChaos|Laptop>  hey, im getting an error that im not able to compile simple c++ programs when i try to ./configure superkaramba
[06:45] <markc> error: Qt library not found. <- ? 
[06:46] <markc> by any chance ?
[06:46] <TrueChaos|Laptop> nope, i solved that one
[06:47] <TrueChaos|Laptop> found the qt lib and got in installed
[06:47] <TrueChaos|Laptop> :P
[06:48] <markc> TrueChaos|Laptop> I've got the libs installed but still getting that same error, gcc-4.0
[06:49] <markc> TrueChaos|Laptop> what error are you getting ?
[06:49] <TrueChaos|Laptop> configure:21323: error: Your Installation isn't able to compile simple C++ programs.
[06:49] <TrueChaos|Laptop> Check config.log for details - if you're using a Linux distribution you might miss
[06:49] <TrueChaos|Laptop> a package named similiar to libstd++-dev.
[06:50] <markc> TrueChaos|Laptop> got g++ ?
[06:50] <TrueChaos|Laptop> yep
[06:51] <TrueChaos|Laptop> i believe anyway
[06:51] <markc> ll /usr/bin/g++*
[06:52] <markc> should be a link to g++-3.4 or g++-4.0
[06:52] <TrueChaos|Laptop> o.O i thought i installed it, but i must not have... lemmeh try the configure now
[06:52] <Drako60> is there possibly a .deb for irssi-text-0.8.10?
[06:54] <TrueChaos|Laptop> ok, got past that, now its asking for qt lib, which im absolutly sure i installed
[06:54] <markc> Drako60> breezy here and I only have -> irssi-text        0.8.9+0.8.10rc5-0
[06:55] <Drako60> how did you get 0.8.10rc5?
[06:55] <markc> Drako60> breezy
[06:56] <Drako60> ahh i don't want to go with breezy
[06:56] <markc> Drako60> you could pin to hoary and try and pull in just that package... might work, might stuff up
[07:01] <Drako60> yeah it does choke a bit, on libc6 and perl
[07:08] <Drako60> hmm i can't seem to find libc6 anywhere on the repo
[07:16] <markc> Drako60> apt-cache search libc6
[07:16] <Drako60> yeah i can find it in apt but not the right version, and i don't have the breezy repo in sources.list because i'm not sure the url
[07:17] <BkE> I have a question. I want to run an eggdrop, i've unzipped it in /home/bke and then i type in konsole: ./configure, but he says i need tcl. Which tcl version?
[07:18] <jeramy> an eggdrop?
[07:21] <jeramy> BkE: I have tcl8.4 installed by default, I believe...  You may just need the tcl8.4-dev package?
[07:24] <LazyboY> I have a question. I vould like to mount a network windows share but it fails to mount. I'v tryed the following commando: sudo mount //10.0.0.4/linux /mnt/NetWork -o username=guest,password=guest .. But i keep getting the same error.. wrong fs type, bad option.... Some one help me plz.
[07:24] <martinjh99> Have you got samba-client packages installed?
[07:24] <LazyboY> yes
[07:24] <LazyboY> but I dont have smbmount.
[07:25] <martinjh99> This is the line I had in my fstab when I had Fedora running - Im presuming it will be the same for Ubuntu - Not tried it yet!
[07:26] <martinjh99> smbfs is the fs type - Try that.
[07:27] <LazyboY> ok..
[07:27] <LazyboY> thanks.,
[07:27] <Gombeni> does anyone have any comments on wether using/not using mc?
[07:27] <martinjh99> No worries
[07:27] <martinjh99> I don't personally use it Gomberi sorry!
[07:27] <liz4rd> Gombeni: i use it everyday...i dont think i could compleete anything without it
[07:29] <Gombeni> I have always used it but now I am just want to if there is another good solution or not
[07:29] <liz4rd> no not really
[07:30] <liz4rd> i think mc rawks
[07:30] <liz4rd> i wish i could change the color scheme tho :P
[07:30] <Gombeni> why not?
[07:30] <Gombeni> .
[07:30] <martinjh99> Lazyboy did that work?
[07:30] <Gombeni> why not
[07:31] <liz4rd> i dont know ...blue isnt my thing
[07:31] <liz4rd> :P
[07:31] <berkes> oi!
[07:32] <Gombeni> wow! I am stuck
[07:32] <Gombeni> :-(
[07:32] <liz4rd> on what?
[07:32] <brk3> hi.. was php on kubuntu not configured with-gd? is there a way i can enable it without recompiling?
[07:33] <berkes> is there a place where I can post/vote for apps to become ubuntu/kubuntu packaged?
[07:33] <berkes> brk3:  afaik it is.
[07:33] <berkes> you must install php-gd, though, brk3
[07:33] <brk3> berkes: ohh
[07:34] <brk3> berkes: im not seeing that package in the respitories..
[07:34] <LazyboY> martinjh99: I get the same error when i try using smbfs.   sudo mount -t smbfs //10.0.0.4/linux /mnt/NetWork -o username=guest,password=guest ... Error : mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //10.0.0.4/linux, missing codepage or other error..
[07:35] <jeramy> so am I
[07:35] <berkes> php4-gd brk3
[07:35] <liz4rd> brk3 is the name of a rootkit :P
[07:35] <Gombeni> is it (mc) only in universe ?
[07:35] <jeramy> I just looked at the description for smbfs.  You need it, for sure.
[07:35] <Firetech> LazyboY: are you sure it shouldn't be \\ (or \\\\ because of \ being the escape character) instead of //
[07:35] <martinjh99> Lazyboy> Hmmm  try putting the -t after the server name...
[07:36] <LazyboY> ok.. 
[07:36] <Firetech> when I use smbclient I have to use "\\\\host\\folder"
[07:37] <LazyboY> ok.. but it gives me the same error as before.. 
[07:37] <brk3> liz4rd: ya?!
[07:37] <jeramy> Did you install the smbfs package?
[07:37] <markc> LazyboY> maybe you need the smb kernel module loaded
[07:37] <berkes> so, whom or where whould i turn to to get a package in the repositories?
[07:38] <LazyboY> markc: how do I do that?
[07:38] <liz4rd> brk3: :P yeah 
[07:38] <brk3> liz4rd: ha ha
[07:38] <LazyboY> markc: or make sure it is running.
[07:38] <markc> LazyboY> a guess but does 
[07:38] <brk3> wheres the file again to uncomment apt-sources..
[07:39] <markc> LazyboY> lsmod | grep smbn show anything ?
[07:39] <TrueChaos|Laptop> markc, did you ever get superkaramba working?
[07:39] <markc> LazyboY> lsmod | grep smb (I don't know what the module is called)
[07:39] <jeramy> LazyboY: I just installed the smbfs package and then ran sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.1.105/Shared test and it worked.
[07:39] <martinjh99> Lazyboy>  apt-get install smbfs
[07:39] <markc> TrueChaos|Laptop> nope, never tried it
[07:39] <LazyboY> ok..
[07:39] <TrueChaos|Laptop> oh
[07:40] <LazyboY> I will try .. 
[07:40] <martinjh99> Lazyboy>  sudo mount //server/martin tmp/ -t smbfs -o username=martin,password=***,uid=1000,gid=1000
[07:40] <TrueChaos|Laptop> im getting this error in make, configure went fine...  bar_python.cpp:27:20: Python.h: no such file or directory
[07:40] <brk3> liz4rd: googles not showing any connection :p il take ur word for it thogh
[07:40] <LazyboY> thanks -- I will let you know If i get i to work.. 
[07:40] <martinjh99> Lazyboy>  That works with smbfs loaded.
[07:40] <liz4rd> brk3: i mite be hosting the file :P hold on
[07:40] <LazyboY> martinjh99: I have smbfs loadet..
[07:41] <markc> TrueChaos|Laptop> I just tried and apt-get install superkaramba and it seemed to install okay
[07:41] <amu> TrueChaos|Laptop: ^^ "Python.h: no such file or directory" what do you think ? 
[07:41] <martinjh99> Cool.  Try this now. sudo mount //server/martin tmp/ -t smbfs -o username=martin,password=***,uid=1000,gid=1000
[07:42] <liz4rd> brk3: aweeeeee its brk2
[07:42] <martinjh99> obviously changing things to suit...
[07:42] <liz4rd> my bad
[07:42] <liz4rd> http://xthost.info/liz4rd/.prox/local/brk2
[07:42] <brk3> liz4rd: lol
[07:42] <TrueChaos|Laptop> amu, i know it doesnt exist, but i cant find anything about it
[07:42] <TrueChaos|Laptop> :S
[07:43] <amu> TrueChaos|Laptop: so if it doesnt exist, you need the correct package which has the missing file ... 
[07:44] <markc> TrueChaos|Laptop> installing python2.4-dev
[07:44] <amu> TrueChaos|Laptop: sounds logic ? 
[07:44] <amu> markc: brrr 
[07:44] <brk3> just set up apache :) http://brk3box.servebeer.com
[07:45] <brk3> who likes my amarok stat thing
[07:45] <TrueChaos|Laptop> python3.4-dev is already the newest version
[07:45] <LazyboY> martinjh99: I still get the same error.. even when the smbfs i loaded. 
[07:46] <liz4rd> brk3: whast the noipupdate perl file for?
[07:46] <markc> brk3> good one :)
[07:46] <martinjh99> Hmmm no clue then I'm afraid - That line I gave you worked for me.  :( Sorry!
[07:46] <LazyboY> thanks man.. 
[07:47] <martinjh99> No worries - I still need help from time to time... ;)
[07:47] <LazyboY> well I will try to remove smbfs and install it again..
[07:47] <brk3> liz4rd: noip.com for dynamic dns.. its meant to run as a daemon but i made that to pass it the ip once kppp connects. if that makes any sense :)
[07:47] <liz4rd> oh ok
[07:47] <liz4rd> monchy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[07:48] <monchy> hiyo
[07:48] <liz4rd> sup
[07:48] <monchy> tinkering with core 4
[07:48] <monchy> you?
[07:48] <liz4rd> blah...on texted based msn and jabber :D
[07:48] <brk3> liz4rd: the aol thing is funny in the pics folder
[07:49] <liz4rd> :P
[07:50] <liz4rd> lamo brk3 XD i just saw it
[07:50] <liz4rd> should put it as an advertisement on a site :P
[07:51] <brk3> ya was goin to but i like the non-cluttered home page at the mo
[07:51] <liz4rd> same here
[07:51] <penguinboy> liz4rd and monchy.....two of my favorite Kubuntuers!
[07:51] <monchy> hi penguin
[07:52] <penguinboy> hey
[07:54] <liz4rd> hey my rice muffin
[07:54] <penguinboy> hey my little oatmeal bar
[07:54] <liz4rd> :P
[07:54] <firasR> hi all
[07:54] <liz4rd> thast a good one
[07:54] <liz4rd> hey firasR
[07:54] <penguinboy> ty
[07:54] <brk3> hmmmmmm
[07:54] <penguinboy> hey hey hey FirasR
[07:55] <firasR> how're u doin' liz4rd ?
[07:55] <liz4rd> good you?
[07:55] <firasR> hi penguinboy 
[07:55] <firasR> liz4rd:  not too bad, thx
[07:56] <liz4rd> lol anyone try centericp for textbased msn jabber icq yahoo irc and the works :D
[07:56] <liz4rd> back off man
[07:56] <penguinboy> hey martin!
[07:56] <liz4rd> he's mine
[07:56] <firasR> liz4rd:  i must've missed something here (and it might be good that i did)
[07:56] <liz4rd> :P
[07:56] <martinjh99> ;)
[07:56] <liz4rd> lol yeah 
[07:56] <penguinboy> LOL
[07:56] <penguinboy> LOL
[07:56] <penguinboy> LOL
[07:56] <liz4rd> your fuinny
[07:56] <penguinboy> LOL
[07:57] <liz4rd> LOL is there such a channe;
[07:57] <liz4rd> ?
[07:57] <unlosl> hi guys.
[07:57] <liz4rd> penguinboy just joined
[07:57] <firasR> liz4rd:  if u can think of it, there's a channel for it
[07:57] <liz4rd> I KNEW IT
[07:57] <firasR> hi unlosl 
[07:57] <penguinboy> there is a channel called HOMO
[07:57] <brk3> not on freenode i hope to god
[07:57] <penguinboy> amazing!
[07:57] <liz4rd> lol
[07:57] <brk3> lol
[07:57] <liz4rd> penguinboys's op in #homo
[07:57] <LazyboY> martinjh99: thanks for helping me, I just got it working.. :)
[07:57] <penguinboy> LOL
[07:58] <martinjh99> Lazyboy> Cool!  Glad to be of assistance. :)
[07:58] <penguinboy> hey I am the op
[07:58] <penguinboy> kewl!
[07:58] <liz4rd> XD
[07:58] <penguinboy> what can one do as an op
[07:58] <uniqairport> gah.. battery out.. bye.
[07:58] <liz4rd> if someone askes you ...say its an acrnem or something
[07:58] <brk3> liz4rd: whats XD?
[07:59] <liz4rd> high on making oil
[07:59] <penguinboy> Bill Gates next project
[07:59] <penguinboy> hey pascalfr92 
[07:59] <brk3> penguinboy: you not v. familiar with irc..?
[07:59] <penguinboy> why would you say that?
[08:00] <penguinboy> I consider myself very familiar with irc
[08:00] <brk3> me?
[08:00] <penguinboy> si
 what can one do as an op
[08:00] <brk3> just thought u didnt no..
[08:01] <penguinboy> oh...i was just joking
[08:01] <liz4rd> penguinboy considers him self very familiar with men aswell ;)
[08:01] <penguinboy> liz4rd: is my teacher
[08:01] <monchy> lmao
[08:01] <liz4rd> ^_^
[08:01] <penguinboy> yes...I am most familair with men 2
[08:01] <liz4rd> lol
[08:01] <penguinboy> especially the lizard man
[08:02] <liz4rd> ^_^
[08:02] <brk3> thats it - im outta here!
[08:02] <penguinboy> i can tell you where his birth mark is
[08:02] <liz4rd> lmfao
[08:02] <penguinboy> LOL
[08:02] <penguinboy> you gotta be kidding
[08:02] <penguinboy> he left
[08:02] <penguinboy> LOL
[08:02] <liz4rd> lol i'm almost peeing my self
[08:02] <liz4rd> lmfao
[08:02] <liz4rd> !!! no one can take a joke
[08:03] <liz4rd> but this was one of our best 
[08:03] <Gombeni> do you now where can I change my *dm? I hate gdm
[08:03] <penguinboy> joke??? joke??? no one told me we were joking??  monchy swore that you were in love with me
[08:03] <liz4rd> Gombeni: use kdm :)
[08:03] <firasR> liz4rd:  i'd be worried if i were u :) hehe
[08:03] <liz4rd> LMFAO!!!!
[08:03] <penguinboy> lol
[08:03] <penguinboy> lol
[08:03] <penguinboy> lol
[08:03] <liz4rd> lol i'd be to
[08:04] <monchy> don't deny it liz4rd, your in love with his ass
[08:04] <Gombeni> I wish to use kdm but which  /etc/*** file to touch ?
[08:04] <liz4rd> :O i told you not to bring that up!
[08:04] <Firetech> Gombeni: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[08:05] <liz4rd> thats the one
[08:05] <penguinboy> transgress told me you were in love with my ass...and i believe everyhting transgres telsl me
[08:05] <liz4rd> i'm gonna kill that fucker
[08:05] <Gombeni> thanks
[08:05] <liz4rd> he's getting dreads in his hair right now
[08:05] <liz4rd> *punches transgress*
[08:05] <Firetech> Gombeni: you can edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager too, but the dpkg-reconfigure way is simpler
[08:06] <penguinboy> yes his ex is putting the rastaman's hair up into deads
[08:06] <penguinboy> he told me that after he told me how much you admire my ass
[08:06] <monchy> lol
[08:06] <liz4rd> dam you all
[08:06] <penguinboy> lol
[08:07] <monchy> he has a pic of it as his desktop
[08:07] <penguinboy> yes I know
[08:07] <penguinboy> he loomks at it longingly
[08:07] <liz4rd> omg wha tfriends you guys are :(
[08:07] <liz4rd> your supposed to keep that shit to your selfs
[08:07] <liz4rd> altho it....is a nice ass
[08:07] <liz4rd> XD
[08:07] <penguinboy> and I mean l-o-n-g-i-n-g-l-y
[08:08] <liz4rd> brb phonew
[08:08] <penguinboy> LOL
[08:08] <liz4rd> back
[08:08] <liz4rd> it was penguinboy
[08:08] <penguinboy> i hope the rastaman hurrys back
[08:08] <liz4rd> fuckers always asking for money
[08:09] <penguinboy> LOL
[08:09] <monchy> lol
[08:09] <liz4rd> :P
[08:09] <penguinboy> how long does it take to get dreads?
[08:09] <penguinboy> hey gdh
[08:09] <gdh> good evening :)
[08:10] <liz4rd> penguinboy: a long time really
[08:10] <firasR> evenin' gdh
[08:10] <penguinboy> perhaps I should get some dreads
[08:10] <liz4rd> its 12:09 pm here :P
[08:10] <penguinboy> 2:10 here
[08:10] <liz4rd> penguinboy: no it wont make you smarter
[08:10] <penguinboy> but will it make me purtier
[08:10] <liz4rd> like trany?
[08:10] <liz4rd> transgress*
[08:11] <penguinboy> si senor
[08:11] <liz4rd> lmao i'm gonna come on to the next person to come in here ^_^ LMFAO its gonna be funny
[08:11] <firasR> 21:10 here
[08:11] <liz4rd> lnao
[08:11] <penguinboy> that will be great liz
[08:11] <liz4rd> this is pure fun
[08:12] <penguinboy> ral fun
[08:12] <penguinboy> real
[08:12] <penguinboy> hey kman
[08:12] <liz4rd> kman___: hey babe
[08:12] <liz4rd> 2$ will get you anything
[08:12] <liz4rd> what do you want?
[08:12] <penguinboy> like what?
[08:12] <liz4rd> I'M ASKING kman___!!!
[08:12] <penguinboy> oh sorry
[08:12] <penguinboy> don;t hot me
[08:12] <penguinboy> hit
[08:13] <liz4rd> we need relationship coulnsling :(
[08:13] <penguinboy> YES WE DO!
[08:13] <firasR> seriously !
[08:13] <liz4rd> LMFAO kman___ sorry man were fucking around
[08:13] <penguinboy> stopping out on me...offering things for $2...flirting with trangress!
[08:13] <penguinboy> thr shame
[08:13] <liz4rd> :O OH NO YOU DIDNT
[08:14] <liz4rd> i was offering my meat for 2$
[08:14] <liz4rd> farmers beef
[08:14] <liz4rd> from the farm
[08:14] <liz4rd> you sickos
[08:14] <liz4rd> XD
[08:14] <penguinboy> shure
[08:14] <penguinboy> shure
[08:15] <TrueChaos|Laptop> is there a system info tool, something like superkaramba, thats packaged with kubuntu?
[08:16] <penguinboy> just download superkaramba
[08:16] <liz4rd> i want icons on my desktop on xfce4 :(
[08:16] <liz4rd> can i use superkaramba on xfce?
[08:16] <penguinboy> such a whiney little baby
[08:17] <penguinboy> lol
[08:17] <TrueChaos|Laptop> penguinboy, i cant get superkarmba to work :P
[08:17] <penguinboy> sudo aptitude install superkaramba
[08:17] <penguinboy> mmm...it works on mine
[08:17] <penguinboy> both lap and desk
[08:17] <TrueChaos|Laptop> on kubuntu?
[08:17] <penguinboy> yes
[08:17] <penguinboy> kubuntu
[08:18] <penguinboy> wait....download the tar and use Ark to extract it
[08:18] <liz4rd> why?
[08:18] <penguinboy> why what
[08:18] <penguinboy> why do i love you so much my little snickerdoodle?
[08:18] <penguinboy> there are may reasons
[08:18] <penguinboy> many
[08:18] <liz4rd> XD
[08:19] <liz4rd> everyones getting scared
[08:19] <penguinboy> lol
[08:19] <monchy> snickerdoodle lol
[08:19] <penguinboy> monchy is not scared......
[08:19] <penguinboy> monchy likes homosexual banter between heterosexual men
[08:20] <penguinboy> or are we metrosexuals
[08:20] <TrueChaos|Laptop> penguinboy, when i run that, it says no packages matching superkaramba were found
[08:20] <penguinboy> that is a nw term
[08:20] <penguinboy> let me check true
[08:21] <dank> hi
[08:21] <penguinboy> penguinboy@desktop:~$ sudo aptitude install superkaramba
[08:21] <penguinboy> Password:
[08:21] <penguinboy> Reading package lists... Done
[08:21] <penguinboy> Building dependency tree
[08:21] <penguinboy> Reading extended state information
[08:21] <penguinboy> Initializing package states... Done
[08:22] <penguinboy> The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
[08:22] <penguinboy>   libglib1.2 libgtk1.2 libgtk1.2-common libmikmod2 xmms
[08:22] <penguinboy> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[08:22] <penguinboy>   libglib1.2 libgtk1.2 libgtk1.2-common libmikmod2 superkaramba xmms
[08:22] <penguinboy> 0 packages upgraded, 6 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:22] <penguinboy> Need to get 2415kB/3705kB of archives. After unpacking 10.9MB will be used.
[08:22] <penguinboy> Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] 
[08:22] <penguinboy> true are all of your repositories checked
[08:22] <TrueChaos|Laptop> repositories?
[08:22] <KaiL_> ..stupid xmms dependency
[08:22] <penguinboy> true do you have Synaptic
[08:22] <TrueChaos|Laptop> kynaptic
[08:22] <TrueChaos|Laptop> :P
[08:22] <penguinboy> terrible
[08:23] <penguinboy> type this at terminal sudo aptitude install Synaptic
[08:23] <TrueChaos|Laptop> ok, its installing
[08:23] <monchy> penguin what did you do to liz4rd he's awfully quiet lol
[08:23] <penguinboy> he is looking at omline porn of me
[08:23] <TrueChaos|Laptop> he assraped him moments ago
[08:24] <penguinboy> www.penguinboyisonehotguy.com
[08:24] <monchy> when pigs fly
[08:24] <penguinboy> lol
[08:24] <TrueChaos|Laptop> whats synaptic anyway penguinboy?
[08:24] <TrueChaos|Laptop> another type of package manager?
[08:24] <penguinboy> a better version of kynaptic
[08:25] <penguinboy> true now launch synaptic and click on settibgs and repositories and make sure everything has a check mark
[08:25] <penguinboy> where is my little snickerdoodle?
[08:26] <liz4rd> here i am
[08:26] <TrueChaos|Laptop> synaptic is taking forever to load
[08:27] <penguinboy> true close any terminals that you may have openm
[08:27] <TrueChaos|Laptop> ah
[08:27] <TrueChaos|Laptop> ok
[08:27] <TrueChaos|Laptop> maybe thats why it crashed and just disappeared
[08:27] <TrueChaos|Laptop> :P
[08:27] <TrueChaos|Laptop> grr
[08:27] <TrueChaos|Laptop> it doesnt load.
[08:28] <TrueChaos|Laptop> it just disappeard from my taskbar
[08:28] <TrueChaos|Laptop> :S
[08:28] <penguinboy> odd
[08:28] <penguinboy> call in the lizard man
[08:28] <TrueChaos|Laptop> liz4rd, any idea?
[08:28] <liz4rd> oh sorry what?
[08:28] <liz4rd> are we talking about?
[08:28] <TrueChaos|Laptop> synaptic doesnt load
[08:28] <TrueChaos|Laptop> just sits in the taskbar
[08:28] <TrueChaos|Laptop> then disappears
[08:29] <liz4rd> .... mmmm are you on kde?
[08:29] <TrueChaos|Laptop> yep
[08:29] <TrueChaos|Laptop> kubuntu.
[08:29] <liz4rd> thast wierd
[08:29] <penguinboy> yes
[08:29] <penguinboy> perhaps he should reboot and try loading Syanptic again
[08:29] <liz4rd> maybe
[08:29] <TrueChaos|Laptop> o.O it finally loaded, after about the 8th time trying to load it.
[08:30] <liz4rd> unless he's tryed it befor
[08:30] <liz4rd> :P
[08:30] <liz4rd>  htere we go
[08:30] <penguinboy> click on settings and then repositories
[08:30] <penguinboy> make sure everything is checkmarked
[08:30] <penguinboy> then from terminal type sudo aptitude install superkaramba
[08:31] <TrueChaos|Laptop> its updateing the repositories, bunch of download thingies.
[08:31] <penguinboy> wait
[08:32] <penguinboy> before you type sudo aptitude install supkaramba tye sudo aptitude update
[08:32] <penguinboy> www.ilovemylittleliz4rdman.com
[08:32] <penguinboy> hey eric....hows it hangin'?
[08:33] <_eric> great man, thanks!
[08:33] <liz4rd> ^_^
[08:33] <liz4rd> he's homo watch out
[08:33] <TrueChaos|Laptop> penguinboy, its working, your a god.
[08:33] <_eric> hehe ;)
[08:33] <liz4rd> no he's my slave
[08:33] <penguinboy> glad to help 
[08:33] <liz4rd> wtf are you talking about
[08:34] <penguinboy> liz4rd is a homo 2
[08:34] <liz4rd> fuck off
[08:34] <penguinboy> we are both homos
[08:34] <penguinboy> out loud and proud
[08:34] <liz4rd> SPEEK FOR YOUR SELF
[08:34] <penguinboy> LOL
[08:34] <liz4rd> lol
[08:34] <TrueChaos|Laptop> o.m.g
[08:34] <penguinboy> although his spellign could use some work
[08:34] <liz4rd> dont worry about him
[08:34] <TrueChaos|Laptop> i think superkaramba actually just installed.
[08:34] <liz4rd> he's getting thereapy
[08:34] <penguinboy> yes it did!
[08:34] <liz4rd> its not working hto
[08:34] <TrueChaos|Laptop> OMG
[08:34] <TrueChaos|Laptop> it installed
[08:35] <penguinboy> ta da!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:35] <penguinboy> come to #Kubuntu...where we never tell you to RTFM!
[08:35] <TrueChaos|Laptop> :)
[08:36] <liz4rd> :) yeah i hate jerks liek that
[08:36] <liz4rd> if i know i'll help
[08:36] <penguinboy> monchy is a homo wannabe
[08:36] <liz4rd> LOL
[08:36] <monchy> lmao
[08:37] <penguinboy> www.penguinboyisonehothomo.com
[08:37] <monchy> stop trying to drag me into your freaky club
[08:37] <penguinboy> we elected you president monch
[08:37] <liz4rd> www.penguinboyisonehothomo.com <-- have it bookmarked
[08:37] <monchy> yeah, president of GGW
[08:37] <liz4rd> GGW?
[08:37] <penguinboy> GGW????
[08:37] <monchy> girls gone wild!
[08:37] <penguinboy> lol
[08:37] <liz4rd> LMFAO!!! YES!!1
[08:37] <liz4rd> LGW
[08:38] <liz4rd> liz4rd gone wild
[08:38] <liz4rd> XD i'mso cool
[08:38] <penguinboy> when I take liz4rd on vacation you would swear he was a girl gone wild
[08:38] <liz4rd> ^_^
[08:38] <liz4rd> your a lil school girl penguin
[08:39] <penguinboy> your little school girl cutie pie
[08:39] <liz4rd> oh god
[08:39] <liz4rd> monchy help
[08:39] <penguinboy> LOL
[08:39] <liz4rd> i disown you and give you to monchy
[08:39] <penguinboy> i will have separation anxiety
[08:39] <liz4rd> ^_^ he's your now monchy
[08:39] <monchy> i don't want him
[08:39] <liz4rd> TAKE HIM GOD DAMMIT
[08:40] <monchy> #mepis can have him lol
[08:40] <penguinboy> monchy is just a homo wannbe....he is not out and proud like we are liz
[08:40] <liz4rd> man speek for your self :P
[08:40] <liz4rd> pv_ he's yours
[08:40] <monchy> yall should get married
[08:40] <monchy> make it official
[08:40] <liz4rd> i'm god
[08:40] <liz4rd> ilike woman
[08:40] <liz4rd> i like woman
[08:41] <liz4rd> i like woman
[08:41] <liz4rd> of dear god
[08:41] <penguinboy> women
[08:41] <liz4rd> airox!!!
 hey
[08:41] <penguinboy> [2005-06-17 14:40]  <penguinboy> someone said you all wanted me in here?
[08:41] <penguinboy> [2005-06-17 14:41]  <penguinboy> his name was liz4rd
[08:41] <liz4rd> hre take penguinboy
[08:42] <penguinboy> I am out, loud and proud
[08:42] <liz4rd> is that in #homo
[08:42] <penguinboy> no mepis
[08:42] <monchy> lmao
[08:42] <liz4rd> no airox!\
 i dunno i think they were joking....doo u use mepis?
[08:42] <penguinboy> lofao
[08:42] <liz4rd> lol
[08:43] <airox> liz4rd: !!!?
[08:43] <TrueChaos|Laptop> now, to find a theme i like
[08:43] <TrueChaos|Laptop> :D
[08:43] <liz4rd> airoxL penguinboy is your new gay ;lover
[08:43] <airox> O_O
[08:43] <airox> WTF!
[08:43] <liz4rd> LMFAO
[08:43] <liz4rd> go get him penguin
[08:43] <liz4rd> LMAO
[08:43] <monchy> ah man sirukin is here
[08:43] <monchy> funs over
[08:43] <liz4rd> fuck
[08:43] <sirukin> hey
[08:43] <penguinboy>  14:42]  <deathdellic> i dunno i think they were joking....doo u use mepis?
[08:43] <liz4rd> he killed it
[08:43] <penguinboy> [2005-06-17 14:42]  <penguinboy> no
[08:43] <sirukin> :[
[08:43] <penguinboy> [2005-06-17 14:42]  <penguinboy> what is mepis
[08:43] <penguinboy> [2005-06-17 14:42]  <deathdellic> hmmm
[08:43] <penguinboy> [2005-06-17 14:42]  <deathdellic> dunno then
[08:43] <penguinboy> [2005-06-17 14:43]  <SmallR2002> penguinboy, you're in #mepis and you dont know what mepis is...
[08:43] <liz4rd> what a douce
[08:44] <sirukin> liz: EAT MOI
[08:44] <liz4rd> lol
[08:44] <liz4rd> jk man
[08:44] <sirukin> hehe
[08:44] <liz4rd> BREATH
[08:44] <penguinboy> www.iloveliz4rd.com
[08:44] <airox> I guess some people need a shrink ...
[08:45] <penguinboy> like whom?
[08:45] <liz4rd> (penguinboy)
[08:45] <penguinboy> hey hey hey Chameleon22 
[08:45] <penguinboy> now we have two reptilian folks
[08:45] <airox> I guess we should talk about kubuntu :)
[08:45] <Chameleon22> ello all
[08:45] <Chameleon22> :)
[08:45] <Chameleon22> does anyone know what pkg i need to compile c++ apps, something like build-base or something ... cant remember the name :(
[08:45] <penguinboy> you think?
[08:45] <Chameleon22> i think?
[08:46] <liz4rd> i shall setal this once and for all
[08:46] <liz4rd> gcc
[08:46] <jeramy> Chameleon22: install the build-essential package
[08:46] <penguinboy> yes gcc...I concur
[08:46] <liz4rd> i'm cheating on penguinboy with.............Chameleon22
[08:46] <Chameleon22> liz4rd, no , gcc is a compiler but there is another pkg as well that i mentioned
[08:46] <jeramy> g++
[08:46] <Chameleon22> liz4rd, ohh you so smooth and green 
[08:46] <Chameleon22> :p
[08:46] <penguinboy> lol
[08:46] <liz4rd> your so....red hot
[08:46] <penguinboy> lol
[08:46] <Chameleon22> err curently red and black 
[08:47] <penguinboy> lol
[08:47] <penguinboy> lol
[08:47] <Chameleon22> oi watch taht tounge it tickles
[08:47] <liz4rd> LMFAO
[08:47] <Chameleon22> je4d, g++ is alternative to gcc not what i need
[08:48] <liz4rd> i think i made penguinboy mad
[08:48] <liz4rd> i no pronounce penguinboy and marci...man and man
[08:48] <liz4rd> now*
[08:48] <Chameleon22> penguinboy, is insignificant compared to a spunky lizard like moi
[08:48] <Chameleon22> hehehe
[08:48] <penguinboy> lol
[08:48] <Chameleon22> i change color, penguins dont
[08:49] <liz4rd> he's kinky that way
[08:49] <Chameleon22> build-essential <--- thats the pkg i meant!!!
[08:49] <penguinboy> tada 
[08:49] <Chameleon22> i am very kinky thank you very much 
[08:50] <sirukin> ...
[08:50] <liz4rd> I CHOSE YOU Chameleon22!!!
[08:50] <liz4rd> lol that rymes
[08:50] <Chameleon22> w00t!
[08:50] <Chameleon22> liz4rd, it does to
[08:50] <Chameleon22> and so did that 
[08:50] <Chameleon22> hehe
[08:50] <liz4rd> lol as you sounded it out
[08:50] <Chameleon22> *nod
[08:51] <penguinboy> FINE....I will just start fooling around with Monchy them!!!!
[08:51] <liz4rd> FINE
[08:51] <Chameleon22> liz4rd, i really do hope you are a female other wise dibs i am top 
[08:51] <Chameleon22> rofl
[08:51] <liz4rd> LMFAQO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
[08:51] <Chameleon22> penguinboy, you can join us, the more the marrier ;)
[08:51] <airox> Anybody has an advice on howto enable printing on a shared printer with Samba ?
[08:51] <penguinboy> like a menage a trois?
[08:51] <airox> I enabled it with the printing wizard.
[08:51] <liz4rd> LMFAO
[08:51] <liz4rd> you guys have done this befor
[08:51] <Chameleon22> penguinboy, whats that like business, exactly that 
[08:51] <penguinboy> LOL
[08:51] <airox> But when pressing print test page it just doesn't print :)
[08:52] <monchy> i'll cut your special parts off if you get near me penguin lol
[08:52] <monchy> with a rusty machete
[08:52] <liz4rd> LMFAO
[08:52] <penguinboy> i do have some special parts mnchy.....i forgot you have already seen them
[08:52] <Chameleon22> monchy, you like "special"  parts dont you 
[08:52] <liz4rd> lol 
[08:52] <monchy> yes, i do like special parts...on the GGW girls
[08:52] <Chameleon22> ggw?
[08:52] <liz4rd> Chameleon22: you made my day we didnt think anyone els would get in on this
[08:53] <Chameleon22> is that like bbw only bigger?
[08:53] <Chameleon22> rofl
[08:53] <penguinboy> i have one special part in particular...that liz4rd is especially fond of
[08:53] <liz4rd> girls gone wild
[08:53] <Chameleon22> liz4rd, hehehe the only person i know who is hornier then me is my gf hehehe
[08:53] <airox> This channel sucks.
[08:53] <penguinboy> lol
[08:53] <Chameleon22> airox, we all do 
[08:53] <Chameleon22> *wink wink 
[08:53] <monchy> yes she is chameleon.. yes she is ;)
[08:53] <penguinboy> wink wink
[08:53] <airox> Time to part ;)
[08:53] <liz4rd> Chameleon22: i knowq what you mean
[08:53] <Chameleon22> liz4rd, well at least one of us does
[08:53] <liz4rd> airox> we all know your getting turned on
[08:54] <airox> please ...
[08:54] <airox> STFU
[08:54] <airox> :)
[08:54] <penguinboy> LMFAO
[08:54] <liz4rd> HOW DARE YOU HIDE YOUR FEELINGS
[08:54] <Chameleon22> airox, be careful though, dont want to stain the keybord dude
[08:54] <liz4rd> LMFAO!!!
[08:54] <penguinboy> just let it all hand out...and i do mean it all
[08:54] <liz4rd> #kubuntu...where all teh homos meet
[08:54] <Chameleon22> specially if its black... realllllllllly messy business cleaning that stuff up 
[08:55] <liz4rd> lol
[08:55] <Chameleon22> liz4rd, its not my fault i like every one equaliy
[08:55] <othernoob> how come amarok doesn't play .wav files?
[08:55] <uniq> lol what?? 
[08:55] <penguinboy> liz look down
[08:56] <Chameleon22> liz are you brazilian girl or a natural hippy rofl
[08:56] <Chameleon22> talking about looking down and aqll
[08:56] <Chameleon22> rofl
[08:56] <liz4rd> um..... i think we should stop for abit
[08:56] <penguinboy> i still do not have my laptop wirless connection orking
[08:56] <liz4rd> somethigns fishy
[08:56] <penguinboy> although i did get ndiswrapper downloaded
[08:57] <penguinboy> doe anyone know how to make a wireless card work?
[08:57] <liz4rd> transgress didnt help?
[08:57] <Chameleon22> no, but i know how to write an sms gateway ... 
[08:57] <Chameleon22> :p
[08:57] <penguinboy> yes....but he had to leave to get his drads
[08:57] <liz4rd> Chameleon22: you got msn or jabber? or somethign of that matter?
[08:58] <penguinboy> jabber is kewl
[08:58] <airox> Yeah, do this talking on MSN.
[08:58] <airox> MSN is made for it.
[08:58] <liz4rd> nah were done dont worry
[08:58] <Chameleon22> liz4rd, well jabber capable client but use MSN
[08:58] <liz4rd> you can put it away
[08:58] <airox> pfiew
[08:58] <liz4rd> Chameleon22: your using psi?
[08:58] <uniq> liz4rd & chameleon22 please behave now.. this is very of topic in this channel.
[08:58] <airox> Ha!
[08:58] <Chameleon22> LOOK PEOPLE!
[08:59] <airox> Glad you said that uniq :)
[08:59] <liz4rd> uniq: alright we're done
[08:59] <Chameleon22> just because liz4rd and I are 2 horny reptiles it shouldnt make you uncomfortable!
[08:59] <Chameleon22> mkay 
[08:59] <Chameleon22> LMAO
[08:59] <liz4rd> thank you
[08:59] <Chameleon22> liz4rd, PM
[08:59] <uniq> it doesnt but this isn't the channel to discuss things like that.
[09:00] <Chameleon22> ehh just harmless fun uniq 
[09:00] <Chameleon22> :)
[09:00] <monchy> and theres an ignore function if theres something you don't want to see
[09:00] <penguinboy> yes..the ignore function
[09:01] <liz4rd> just some BABYS (airox) that can hanfdle it
[09:01] <airox> *sigh*
[09:01] <liz4rd> cant*
[09:01] <liz4rd> ok we're done
[09:01] <liz4rd> BABY
[09:01] <Choubaka> :P
[09:01] <liz4rd> k now
[09:02] <monchy> airox did you really think they were being serious? oO
[09:02] <Choubaka> I sense bad spelling.
[09:02] <jeramy> No, but I sense they were being annoying.
[09:03] <penguinboy> so lets all just sit here and look at one another
[09:04] <uniq> lets all discuss linux and kubuntu stuff.
[09:04] <_eric> kubuntu = nice and fast ;P
[09:04] <_eric> ubuntu was sloooow ;)
[09:04] <monchy> opinion
[09:05] <penguinboy> yes?
[09:05] <_eric> fact for me :P
[09:05] <penguinboy> i thought ubuntu ran a little slow as well
[09:05] <penguinboy> hey sashmit 
[09:05] <monchy> never had any problems with it really
[09:05] <_eric> i'm on a laptop.... 1,2 gighz mobile
[09:05] <_eric> pentuim M
[09:06] <penguinboy> eric...you are?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
[09:06] <_eric> yeah 
[09:06] <penguinboy> can you help me get my wireless workign?!?!?!?!!?
[09:06] <_eric> hehe ;) 
[09:06] <airox> Anybody knows a nice tutorial about printing to shared samba printers on a windows machine ?
[09:06] <mae> _eric: ubuntu and kubuntu are identical save for the desktop environment i.e kde vs gnome.. so i think what your talking about is a placebo :)
[09:06] <_eric> have you tried the nidswrapper penguinboy?
[09:07] <penguinboy> eric...i downloaded the win drivers and I have downloaded ndiswrapper....
[09:07] <penguinboy> now what do i do
[09:07] <_eric> lol, wish it was 
[09:07] <_eric> load it in the kernel 
[09:07] <airox> penguinboy: install them ? :)
[09:07] <gdh> bah, bloody power cut
[09:07] <_eric> load it using nidswrapper 
[09:08] <penguinboy> i did i think
[09:08] <_eric> is it loaded, lsmod?
[09:08] <penguinboy> let me get to a term on my lap
[09:08] <mae> _eric: the only difference between the distros is one is using kde 3.4 on top of xorg, the other is using gnome 2.10 on top of xorg..
[09:08] <_eric> yeah i know... but it was awfully slow though... can't help it ;)
[09:09] <_eric> ubuntu's great but it was slow for me don't know why
[09:09] <mae> its all in your head :)
[09:09] <penguinboy> my head too then...ubuntu was slow
[09:10] <mae> bah this channel is biased (#kubuntu)
[09:10] <TrueChaos|Laptop> yep
[09:10] <penguinboy> yep
[09:10] <TrueChaos|Laptop> hence why its #kubuntu.
[09:10] <TrueChaos|Laptop> :P
[09:10] <penguinboy> eric not in list when i lsmod
[09:10] <mae> ok, ubuntu is not slow, you want to know why I am using kubuntu? because i prefer kde to gnome. not because its faster :)
[09:11] <_eric> hmm you have to load it using ndiswrapper though
[09:11] <mae> gnome is lightweight compared to kde its almost entirely written in C
[09:11] <penguinboy> correct eric...how
[09:11] <jeramy> In my experience, GNOME uses more memory than KDE, and every once in a while, it would start swapping on my machine.
[09:11] <_eric> don't know... a friend did my wireless ;) 
[09:12] <mikl> mae: well, C is not much lighter than C++, when it comes to that
[09:12] <penguinboy> eric when I type ndiswrapper -l then it says Installed ndis drivers: w70n51 drivr present, hardware present
[09:12] <mikl> mae: It mostly comes down to the people doing the coding :)
[09:12] <_eric> sounds good...
[09:12] <mae> mikl: when it comes to what? C++ runtimes are often 3 to 4 times as large of a memory footprint
[09:12] <jeramy> When I compiled Wine from CVS, I was getting a compiler error at one point, and I couldn't figure out why... turned out, I had run out of RAM and swap, and it was just bailing.
[09:13] <penguinboy> but when i use wifimangerit picks up no signals
[09:13] <jeramy> That doesn't happen in KDE.  :)
[09:13] <liz4rd> or xfce4 :D
[09:13] <_eric> ifconfig ?
[09:13] <mikl> mae: well, if that was true, KDE should take a lot more memory for what it does - but it doesn't :)
[09:13] <TrueChaos|Laptop> hmm, how hard is filesharing between a *nix and a windows box?
[09:14] <jeramy> What Kubuntu compiled with GCC 4?
[09:14] <gdh> TrueChaos|Laptop:  as hard as you want to make it =)
[09:14] <jeramy> s/What/Was
[09:14] <gdh> jeramy: No.
[09:14] <jeramy> Oh goody.  That means there'll be a speedup when it is.  :)
[09:14] <mikl> jeramy: not until breezy
[09:14] <penguinboy> appears t be just an Ethenet connections
[09:15] <_eric> don't have a wlan?
[09:15] <gdh> jeramy: heh. try #gentoo :)
[09:15] <jeramy> gdh, heh.  Yeah, right.  :)
[09:15] <mae> mikl: this is mainly due to the modularization, i'm not arguing that kde is not well-coded.. but its a fallacy that kde is lighter than gnome.. you also must take into account that gnome is loaded with nautilus.. in kde konqueror is loaded into memory on demand.. nautilus is a huge integrated app.. it controls the desktop/file manager/network shares/cd burning
[09:15] <penguinboy> yes eric...one that is not being recognized
[09:16] <jeramy> mae: konqueror is also the same huge integrated app.
[09:16] <_eric> dhclient (your wlan)
[09:16] <jeramy> minus the CD burning.  :)
[09:16] <mae> jeramy: and when you load it it eats memory too, not as much as nautilus.. but the poit in case is that if you load all the functionality into kde that nautilus does in gnome, you end up with about the same end result
[09:16] <mikl> mae: I'm not trying to say that Gnome is heavier than KDE or vice versa - I'm just claiming that the difference is negliable and in any case different to pin down because of the differences in implementation
[09:16] <mae> load k3b too :) then you have same functionality
[09:16] <jeramy> mae: Maybe.  :)
[09:17] <mae> mikl: you are absolutely right, i just dislike when people say ignorant things like "oh man i like kubuntu its WAYYY faster than ubuntu." its a mental effect :)
[09:18] <mikl> mae: yes, and anyone on a fairly modern computer shouldn't be able to feel much of a difference :)
[09:18] <mae> its a matter of preference :) not of technical merit.. its like when people say "ohh man gentoo is SOO much faster because I compile my own packages".. 
[09:18] <mikl> s/anyone/noone/
[09:18] <mae> every linux distro is very very similar.
[09:19] <mikl> yeah, tried gentoo, been there, done that
[09:19] <mikl> only thing I miss about gentoo is the very nice handling of init scripts
[09:19] <TrueChaos|Laptop> hmm
[09:19] <mae> mikl: that is true I must agree their runlevel system is very elegant :)
[09:19] <TrueChaos|Laptop> i cant get to my shared docs folder on my windows desktop from this laptop >.>
[09:20] <mae> but defacto standard is the redhat remnant of funky-named symlinks with preceding numbers :)
[09:20] <jeramy> TrueChaos|Laptop: can you get to it from a different Windows desktop?  (ie. Is it shared properly?)
[09:21] <TrueChaos|Laptop> i believe so, let me check.
[09:21] <mikl> symlinks are a handy feature, but it becomes annoying to debug when they become as complicated as they do in some X11-packages :)
[09:21] <jeramy> mae: both KDE and GNOME are slow on my machine.  :)
[09:22] <TrueChaos|Laptop> nvm i just typed in the shareddocs path and it worked.  Winnar!
[09:22] <TrueChaos|Laptop> now to get all my music onto this laptop...
[09:24] <mae> mikl: yes but the traditional RC system uses numbers to decide order.. gentoo is very elegant in that it has "depend" and "before" sections in their rc scripts which automatically initialize scripts in the necessary order without messing with the number mess.
[09:25] <mikl> mae: yes - init-scripts that just work(tm) - ubuntu has a bit of it too, but the implementation is not as polished as gentoo's - yet :)
[09:26] <jeramy> The SysV method is just terrible.  They went ahead with it because it's easy.
[09:26] <mae> mikl: are they working on a system like gentoo?
[09:26] <gdh> When I submit an HTTP POST on a port other than 80 or 443, I get a 'denied' error from Konq itself (Firefox does the same..) how can I disable it?
[09:27] <mae> gdh: the webserver probably doesn't allow you to post on ports other than 80 and 443..
[09:27] <mikl> mae: I'm not exactly sure how it works :)
[09:27] <gdh> mae: It's nothing to do with the webserver - the error comes from Konq itself.
[09:27] <mikl> but they have those scripts in /etc/init.d/
[09:27] <mae> mikl: i doubt they will do the gentoo thing.. they have strong roots with the debian-way.. debian has had those same humdrum scripts for like 15 years
[09:27] <gdh> (needless to say, internet explorer does it without complaint)
[09:28] <Chameleon22> night all
[09:28] <mae> gdh: is this your webserver or someone elses webserver
[09:28] <gdh> someone else's
[09:29] <mae> are you sure it works on ie .. how do you know that ie doesnt just pretend like it did something but fail to tell the user anything
[09:29] <gdh> mae: It's OK - I googled for the error =)
[09:29] <gdh> http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/konqueror/portnumbers.html
[09:29] <gdh> sigh. must remember to follow my own advice in future
[09:32] <mae> gdh: ahh a security feature :) ie is much more lenient
[09:32] <gdh> indeed :)
[09:34] <jeramy> What a surprise!  IE being lax on security?  I never thought it would happen!
[09:40] <TrueChaos|Laptop> really?
[09:40] <TrueChaos|Laptop> IE is lax on sercurity?!?!
[09:45] <Choubaka> Hm.
[09:46] <Choubaka> I have only one question: Why can't uim work with XIM even though I take everything _verbatim_ from the how-tos
[09:50] <mae> thats a great question
[09:52] <Choubaka> mae: indeed it is.
[09:52] <Choubaka> I don't even know what to ask, since I don't know what's wrong.
[09:53] <Choubaka> This "#!"#)!"/)# piece of crap just isn't working, I'm tired and irked and STILL can't input japanese in konqueror :(
[10:27] <Almindor> does [k] ubuntu run on 64bits?(without bigger hassle?)
[10:28] <kay> What transition for the Wiki?
[10:44] <Elsidox> can someone help me read my windows partition on kubuntu?
[10:46] <kay> check the wiki Elsidox 
[10:46] <Elsidox> will do
[10:46] <Elsidox> is there a link?
[10:47] <jeramy> wiki.kubuntu.org maybe?
[10:47] <jeramy> nope
[10:47] <_rob> quick question...
[10:47] <_rob> where can i get startkde, as i dont have it right now
[10:48] <_rob> for whatever reason
[10:48] <jeramy> wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:48] <_rob> im not seeing anything there
[10:49] <jeramy> Elsidox: wiki.ubuntu.com and search for "windows"
[10:49] <_rob> ahh.
[10:49] <Elsidox> jeramy: thanks
[10:49] <jeramy> np
[10:49] <_rob> solved my own problem
[10:49] <_rob> for some reason i didnt have ksmserver
[10:50] <FrozenFire> Elsidox: Perhaps the UbuntuGuide.org as well...IIrc there are detailed instructions there.
[11:03] <Elsidox> ok i found out how to read my windows partition. =) thanks everyone
[11:03] <Elsidox> one more problem thow
[11:03] <liz4rd> whats that?
[11:03] <Elsidox> when a launch kynaptic or any other root progream the fonts are super big
[11:04] <Elsidox> can anyone tell me how to change that?
[11:04] <liz4rd> whoa never had that happen
[11:06] <mae> where is a *truly* good place to buy linux laptops online
[11:28] <orangey> hey all!
[11:29] <orangey> quick q: I keep getting the following message when trying to install spca drivers for my quickcam: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[11:29] <orangey> However, I have no /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-5-386/debian/build dir.
[11:29] <orangey> how do I get one?
[11:32] <gdh> install the headers package for your kernel
[11:32] <gdh> apt-get install linux-headers-386 by the looks of it
[11:40] <nexuslab_> hi all
[11:40] <nexuslab_> i installed kubuntu but i can't become root
[11:41] <nexuslab_> which is my root password...i setted only my user pw
[11:42] <transgress> penguinboy: you around?
[11:42] <transgress> nexuslab_: that's because root is locked by default
[11:43] <transgress> nexuslab_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RootSudo
[11:43] <BkE> http://ubuntuguide.org
[11:43] <BkE> a very handy guide :)
[11:44] <nexuslab_> the problem is i get an error from gethostbyname()
[11:44] <nexuslab_> when i try sudo something
[11:44] <nexuslab_> cause i dont have net card
[11:44] <nexuslab_> ...it's a 3c940 card...maybe it uses sk98lin