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JDigitalmplayer is usually awesome12:00
seth_kChetic, here you go: http://sethkinast.com/ubuntu/hoary/backports/zsnes_1.420-0ubuntu1~5.04ubp1_i386.deb12:00
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djm62zyth: mplayer has done that for me, too...there is a preferences option to adjust the audio offset12:00
zythdjm62, ahh12:00
Cheticseth_k, that's awesome.. thanks!12:00
djm62why it wasn't right to begin with, I have no idea...multimedia--12:00
seth_kChetic, wait, are you wanting for 64-bit?12:00
Cheticoh heh it's not?12:00
seth_kChetic, I just now scrolled up and read12:00
Cheticyeah that's what I need12:01
zythit claims my system is too slow to play it12:01
zythlol12:01
JDigitalI think mplayer sometimes goes out of sync whenever it's using too much CPU12:01
scorpixis gaim 1.3.1 been backported to ubuntu?12:01
JDigitalyeah12:01
JDigitaltry -vo sdl12:01
seth_kChetic, zSNES is in x86 assembly, so doesn't work with 64-bit :(12:01
JDigitalmplayer -vo sdl whatever.avi12:01
seth_kscorpix, yes, it's in staging12:01
Cheticseth_k, ever? it won't ever work?12:01
JDigitalit uses less CPU12:01
djm62Chetic: snes9x is the one to work on12:01
djm62endian-safe goodness :)12:01
Cheticdjm62, yeah but snes9x-x just doesn't exist in the lists12:01
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seth_kChetic, no, not unless someone ports it to x64, which won't happen. try snes9x :/12:01
visorhi12:01
pfpheh, maybe you could run 32-bit under some emulator on 6412:01
zythshould I install totem-xine anyways?  Is it happier than totem-gstreamer?12:02
djm62Chetic: you'll need to get the source...12:02
JDigitalshame, that would mean that zsnes might eventually go dead12:02
JDigitalno use mplayer, mplayer is awesome12:02
Cheticdjm62, ok, lame12:02
JDigitalmplayer mplayer mplayer12:02
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zythJDigital, lol12:02
lsuactiafnermplayer is the best.12:02
zythI guess I'll just set vo=sdl in my mplayer .config12:02
visordo you guys know where to start (what documentation to read) to have multiple ip addresses on the same machine (having two NIC's of course) or what software do i need?12:02
djm62Chetic: such is the lot of the early adopter...serves you right for being able to afford 64-bit ;)12:02
Seveasvisor, man ifconfig is a good place12:03
scorpixmplayer is good but still doesn't play .3gp file like xine :(12:03
lsuactiafnervisor : brctl might be usefull12:03
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lsuactiafneri have 3 nics12:03
djm62visor: multiple upstream IPs?12:03
Cheticdjm62, it costed less than the other one.. and everything else seems to work great on ubuntu anyway12:03
Seveasvisor, you can even have multiple ip-adresses on one nic :)12:03
LinuxJonesvisor, you can set seperate static ip addresses in network-admin for your devices12:03
visorSeveas: so there is no need for external software else than the bundled? (ipconfig, and so)12:03
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pfpvisor: also "ip command reference" from somewhere is handy12:03
Seveasvisor, no12:04
pfpvisor: http://linux-ip.net/gl/ip-cref/12:04
djm62Chetic: dead easy...type apt-get source snes9x-x12:04
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husky1982hi guys12:05
visoro great thanks, and actually i never have done such a thing, but a friend of mine asked me, so basically what he asked me was that, how to setup two nic to test the routing of two different networks12:05
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LinuxJoneshusky1982, hiya12:05
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visorthank you guys, ill have an eye on those docs now12:05
pfpthere's even a recipe for just that, don't remember where of course12:05
concept10im trying to change values in some files located /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq  I have used echo and text editor, the values will not change!  What gives?12:06
Cheticdjm62, that was easy... not... E: Unable to find a source package for snes9x-x12:06
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djm62Chetic: I'm guessing that someone's abandoned that package... :(12:06
_cazabamconcept10: what are you trying to change?12:06
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djm62Chetic: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/source/snes9x12:07
seth_kseth@erebus:~/ubuntu/hoary/backports/snes9x$ apt-get source snes9x12:07
seth_kno -x12:07
Cheticoh12:07
concept10_cazabam, cpu freq min and max values12:07
Cheticnope12:07
AySinkDemoing Ubuntu to a Windows developer (advocacy) - say  "Hi!"12:07
husky1982got a little problem.. I'm just trying to work with ubuntu. I got a laptop whch works fine with ubuntu and a server running ubuntu without gnome. I have adressed the whole eth adapters and now i have to set up the routing informations to allow the server to conect to the internet over the laptop.. i think so ;)12:07
husky1982but where?12:07
_cazabamconcept10: can't change those there - they're read from the BIOS12:08
zwartHi windows developer12:08
seth_kHi windows person12:08
AySink:) Thanks12:08
_cazabamconcept10: check out cpufreqd12:08
zwartwelcome to the wonderfull world of linux12:08
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Chetichaha he'll be fired12:08
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seth_kit's so wonderful, it has two L's12:08
caonex_anybody here using any iptables frontend?12:08
AySinkhehe his boss doesn't know he's here12:08
AySinkthanks guys - gotta run12:08
concept10_cazabam, are you sure about that?12:08
Cheticguess the boss showed up12:08
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seth_kChetic, that command didn't work? (with no -x)12:09
Cheticseth_k, nope12:09
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_cazabamconcept10: yup - that's not a real filesystem you're looking at there12:09
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lsuactiafnerhusky1982 : route add default gw ip12:09
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lsuactiafneri think.12:09
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Fabianpfp, been sweating?12:09
Fabian:D12:09
msg431hello12:09
_cazabamconcept10: it's sysfs12:09
pfpFabian: lol12:09
msg431I made a script and put it in /etc/init.d12:09
husky1982thx lsu :)12:09
msg431what do I need to do to have that script start on boot12:10
seth_kChetic: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure the lines with deb-src are uncommented, especially the one with multiverse12:10
pfpFabian: everything running?12:10
heimdallSeveas, Hi, can I ask you a question about a problem I have with my ubuntu ?12:10
Fabianpfp, tried windows too! I even updated it quickly :D12:10
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seth_kChetic, snes9x is in multiverse12:10
Cheticseth_k, they're all uncommented12:10
seth_kbah12:10
pfpcool12:10
Seveasheimdall, of course you can12:10
Fabianpfp, looks good12:10
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heimdallthanks12:10
Fabianlol12:10
concept10_cazabam, i understand that but you should be able to change the files.12:10
Seveasbut ask in the channel, there are other smart people here too :)12:10
Fabianpfp, my problem ain't solved though... :(12:10
seth_kChetic, so you have:12:10
seth_kdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse12:10
seth_ker12:10
Anon5559for all who care I have sucessfully emualted Ubuntu on Virtual PC, VMware, and QEMU12:10
seth_ks/breezy/hoary12:11
pfpFabian: yep :(12:11
seth_k;)12:11
heimdallwell I already asked in the channel but I can repeat of course12:11
_cazabamconcept10: what would you expect to happen if you edited the files?12:11
heimdallfirst excuse my poor english12:11
heimdallI'm french in fact..12:11
heimdall:)12:11
_cazabammsg431: look in /etc/rc2.d12:11
Seveasheimdall, there is #ubuntu-fr too :)12:11
msg431_cazabam, ok12:11
heimdallyeah12:11
LinuxJonesheimdall, there is a French language irc channel #ubuntu-fr12:11
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heimdallbut there are not many people there12:11
concept10_cazabam, I want my processor to scale up to its maximum speed12:11
heimdalland nobody knows for my pb12:11
heimdall:)12:11
heimdall(yeah I tried)12:11
seth_kdonc, qu'est-ce qu'il y a? ;)12:12
msg431_cazabam, do I move my script there?12:12
_cazabamconcept10: is the value currently in scaling_max_freq equal to the max speed of your proc?12:12
LinuxJonesheimdall, what's your problem again ?12:12
heimdallhehe seth_k12:12
paxonoui c'est quoi le probleme, just kidding.12:12
heimdallyep12:12
_cazabammsg431: no, stick it in /etc/init.d12:12
heimdallwell12:12
heimdallI just installed ubuntu12:12
heimdallon my laptop12:12
Cheticseth_k, yeah I have the multiverse with sources12:12
Fabianpfp, so what now? I hate installing everything again.... the standard system ain't enough. I need gcc and the sources and some other stuff again.....12:12
_cazabammsg431: then symlink it to /etc/rc2.d and call it S##yourscript - where ## is a number like 8012:12
heimdallI arrive on the screen where I have to put my login/pwd12:12
concept10_cazabam, no its set at 1590000 my processor is 2.66 ghz so it should be 266000012:12
heimdallI do it, press enter12:12
heimdalland then12:12
heimdallI have a brown screen, a white cursor, and nothing else12:13
pfpFabian: hmm... maybe you could remove just hda5 and hda212:13
seth_kChetic, the only thing I can think then is that apt has decided that you can't build snes9x on an x64 system, maybe for the same reason as zSNES12:13
_cazabamconcept10: hmmm - probably want to check your bios setting or something12:13
lsuactiafneri wish openmosix would release a nice new patch12:13
_cazabamconcept10: but just installing and running cpufreqd automatically puts mine to top speed12:13
heimdallbut a strange sound which seems to be repeating himself12:13
Fabianpfp, lol, what good is that?12:13
LinuxJonesheimdall, is this after a brand new install ?12:13
Seveasheimdall, ouch12:13
Cheticseth_k, ok.. so basically SNES emulation isn't possible on a 64-bit machine running Ubuntu now.. that's great12:13
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heimdallyeah12:13
msg431_cazabam, thanks12:13
concept10_cazabam, my bios doesnt have any cpu speed related settings -12:13
Seveasyou seem to be bitten by a nasty esd bug i guess12:13
heimdallbrand new12:13
zythChetic, you could try running zsnes under wine?12:14
husky1982huiuiui12:14
heimdallI made it 1 hour ago12:14
Seveasheimdall, is it a drumming sound?12:14
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_cazabamconcept10: what machine you running?12:14
heimdallsorry, drumming ?12:14
concept10_cazabam, how to invoke cpufreqd?12:14
Cheticzyth, yeah that's a real good idea >_>12:14
LinuxJonesheimdall, and it's Hoary ?12:14
zythlol12:14
zythhey, just trying to be helpful here ;)12:14
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_cazabamconcept10: just 'apt-get install cpufreqd' and it starts automatically12:14
Seveasheimdall, as in drums, the things you make a lot of noise with12:14
husky1982ok, the next question.. got the eth0 set up to a static ip-adress12:14
pfpFabian: then you would have two free areas, maybeyou could make partitions there12:14
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Seveasmeeting...12:14
heimdallhum so yes12:14
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husky1982how to set it to dhcp by terminal. ifconfig eth0 ????12:14
robertjwhat's the best supported integrated chipset out there these days for video?12:15
robertjthe nvidia line?12:15
_cazabamconcept10: check /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq to see what you're running at before and after12:15
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microhaxobah12:15
heimdallyeah it is drum12:15
microhaxothis is bs12:15
seth_kChetic, I think you're gonna have to somehow get a 32-bit environment set up inside your 64-bit. or do what zyth suggested and try it through wine?12:15
Fabianbut I need those stupid files on hda5! I can't just remove them!12:15
LinuxJonesheimdall, can you access the laptop right now ?12:15
concept10_cazabam, I have a HP laptop, 2.66ghz it only runs at 1.59 with linux - Ive been running like this for a year - IM FIXING THIS TODAY!!!!!12:15
heimdalllinukso : I'm on my laptop, but with windows :/12:15
_cazabamconcept10: hehe ok :) you have cpufreqd yet?12:15
LinuxJonesheimdall, ;(12:15
heimdalldamn12:15
heimdallI meant LinuxJones :)12:16
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heimdallI can tell you things12:16
heimdalllike :12:16
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heimdallI can open a xterm session12:16
concept10_cazabam,  # cat cpuinfo_cur_freq12:16
concept10159996012:16
zyth!restricted12:16
ubotumethinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:16
LinuxJonesheimdall, do you know how to upgrade your system software ?12:16
_cazabamhmmmmm....12:16
pfpFabian: oh, mm, it's also possible to clone an ubuntu setup12:16
LinuxJonesheimdall, form the command line ?12:16
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LinuxJones*from12:17
heimdallno12:17
LinuxJonesheimdall, ok12:17
Fabianpfp, I think the main problem was Grub! As Grub can't finde the defined partitions any more!12:17
heimdallI can't have access to the internet12:17
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heimdallI think...12:17
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husky1982hm12:17
heimdalland I precise, I'm with a 56k connexion...12:17
Fabianpfp, how to clone?12:17
pfpFabian: but linux couldn't find them either, so the partition table we set up was faulty12:17
heimdalleverything's good with me :(12:17
concept10_cazabam, thanks for the help....not too many people know about that subject12:17
LinuxJonesheimdall, that's not good :)12:17
heimdallyep12:18
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heimdallthats my life with linux12:18
heimdallnever worked12:18
_cazabamconcept10: try using 'cpufreq-selector -f 2660000'12:18
pfpFabian: it's easy with two disks, or two machines on a fast network12:18
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heimdallbut I try.... I try.... and try12:18
_cazabamconcept10: ok, here to help :)12:18
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concept10_cazabam, i have cpufreqd running12:18
heimdallbut now I really don't know12:18
husky1982lsuactiafner, can you give me a hint?12:18
LinuxJonesheimdall, do you have access to another computer that you can login to irc and work on your laptop ?12:18
Fabianpfp, got only one external USB disk!12:18
heimdallhum no12:18
heimdall:(12:18
mbeattie_how come the firefox icon is the earth icon and not the firefox one by default?12:18
pfpFabian: that won't help much :()()(12:18
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Fabianpfp, no it won't! :D12:19
heimdallI have to reboot each time12:19
pfpFabian: no 2nd computer?12:19
_cazabamconcept10: ok, and it is still slow? Have you tried cpufreq-selector?12:19
Fabianpfp, only 10mb ethernet and no huge HD12:19
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concept10_cazabam, I ran that command and nothing happened, no output12:19
LinuxJonesheimdall, have you tried a live cd to see if that works ?12:20
robertjunfortunately, dell stopped offering the $65 upgrade to the Ultrasharps :(12:20
heimdallLinuxJones : I didn't told you, maybe the problem come frome the chipset SiS63012:20
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concept10_cazabam, current speed still the same12:20
heimdallLinuxJones : same pb with the live cd12:20
pfpFabian: hmm, it's still doable with 10M eth if there's enough space to hold your linux installation (compressed)12:20
_cazabamconcept10: sounds like a specific bug with your laptop12:20
Fabianpfp, how much will that be?12:20
_cazabamconcept10: you use ACPI?12:20
RuffianSoldierwhere is the ubuntu sparkle background located?12:20
RuffianSoldierwhat directory12:20
husky1982hm12:21
pfpFabian: df -h, then multiply the usage with about 0.712:21
husky1982does anybody got two minutes for me?12:21
concept10_cazabam, do you mean is it configured? not sure12:21
heimdallLinuxJones : in fact I installed ubuntu twice... the first time I didn't see the bottom of the installation screen, a do it again putin "boot : linux vga=771" and it was ok with the console mode12:21
pfpFabian: unless there's lots of music/movies which won't compress12:21
_cazabamconcept10: if you didn't specifically turn it off, it will be on :)12:22
heimdallLinuxJones : so maybe it is ok for the console mode, but not for X ?12:22
pfpFabian: tell you what, we could continue this tomorrow, if that's ok12:22
Fabianpfp, no I haven't got any files on my linux system. Everything's on that Fat part. so what do you need? Used MB of hda4?12:22
fivrehey, how do I do monitor calibration?12:22
heimdallLinuxJones : but here, I don't know what to do, and if it SiS630 the cause of the pb12:22
LinuxJonesheimdall, you can try editing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file using nano and change the video driver from whatever it is now to vesa12:22
heimdallhum12:23
pfpFabian: yea, you need to copy that over the network... and also, you need to copy the fat's content somewhere12:23
concept10_cazabam, It should be on. I have to find out more about the bios settings.  Im tired of this crap. :)  I will write a wiki page when I figure this out12:23
LinuxJonesheimdall, that driver works with most video cards (rather slowly) but it does work12:23
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heimdallhum12:23
Fabianpfp, hda4 used are 2.4G. Got the Fat stuff backed up12:23
heimdallLinuxJones : okay, but what do I do if there is no file like that ?12:23
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lsuactiafnerhusky1982 : what?12:24
husky1982ah ;)12:24
RuffianSoldierwhere is the ubuntu sparkle background located?12:24
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heimdallLinuxJones : I prefer ask, because you know... I have to reboot each time12:24
bkudriakdm doesn't display a list of users like i told it too...what gives?12:24
bkudria(everyone in  #kubuntu is asleep)12:24
concept10_cazabam, I looked in the inside of my laptop with a microscope,  there are about 10 deamons in front of my processor asking it to please scale up beyond 1.59 ghz12:24
Fabianpfp, so I need around 1.68 GB of diskspace?12:24
lsuactiafnerhusky1982 : look into dnsmasq, i use that but not dhcp.. dont like automation12:25
LinuxJonesheimdall, ok or you can try opening another terminal when you see the gnome login screen. Hit ctrl + alt + F2, login as your user then type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, for your video driver to use select vesa12:25
husky1982I got the eth0 set up with a static IP adress. How to set it up with dhcp by terminal?12:25
Fabiancould do that, I think.... on a ext3 partition?12:25
pfpFabian: something like that, 2G would be safe12:25
bkudriahusky1982: edit /etc/network/interfaces12:25
Fabianpfp, privat for a sec, and then we both go to bed, aight?12:25
Fabian;)12:25
bkudriahusky1982: replace the word 'static' with 'dhcp'12:25
pfpFabian: aight, heh12:25
LinuxJonesheimdall, sorry you have to type sudo -s (enter your user password) before you type that command12:25
_cazabamconcept10: ok, the wiki page would be cool on the Ubuntu site. only advice I can find is to uninstall cpufreqd12:26
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husky1982won't work :(12:26
devianthello guys12:26
bkudriahusky1982: and comment out the lines that defines the ip12:26
husky1982but i'll just have another try12:26
_cazabamconcept10: the reboot and install speedfreq  - does a similar job and reportedly works with HP laptops12:26
husky1982okay12:26
bkudriahusky1982: why not?12:26
heimdallLinuxJones : Ok I not12:26
heimdallnote12:26
bkudriakdm doesn't display a list of users like i told it too...what gives?12:26
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deviantfor a creative soun blaster live card, what do i need to install, besides emu10k1 module ?12:26
deviant*sound12:26
husky1982mom12:26
heimdallLinuxJones : and then I'll find a line in a file which I should change and put 'vesa'12:27
concept10_cazabam, thanks.12:27
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RuffianSoldierwhere is the ubuntu sparkle background located?12:27
zythdoes k3b still spectacularly fail to work if I install it in gnome ubuntu like it did in Warty?12:27
_cazabamconcept10: ok, no probs12:27
LinuxJonesheimdall, the ctrl + alt +F2 will open a new login screen, login then type sudo -s, enter your users password, then type dpkg-reconfigure-xserver-xorg, you can probably keep all of the defaults that come up by default except the video driver...select vesa12:27
bkudriaRuffianSoldier: which one is that?12:28
_cazabamtired now - sleeeeeeeep (-_-)12:28
fivreHow does one do monitor calibration?12:28
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robertjRuffianSoldier: /usr/share/backgrounds12:28
heimdallLinuxJones : okay, I read on the web 'vesa=791' what does it mean ? what do you think of it ?12:28
LinuxJonesheimdall, it's a configuration routine for setting up your X server it will ask a bunch of questions12:28
Fabianhey, anyone knows if the live CD of ubuntu got ssh server running???12:28
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LinuxJonesheimdall, if you load that module you don't need that12:29
heimdallokay12:29
LinuxJonesheimdall, I am going for a smoke brb12:29
heimdallLinuxJones : okay, so I try12:30
FabianSeveas, do you know if ubuntu live CD runs ssh server?12:30
heimdallthx, I'm pessimist, but I try....12:30
LinuxJonesheimdall, hopefully you'll be in Ubuntu when I get back :)12:30
pfpi think Seveas went away...12:30
Fabiantoo bad12:30
heimdallyeah12:30
husky1982lsuactiafner?12:30
Fabianno answer from anyone else?12:30
heimdallI don't think but why not ;)12:30
wsI run amd64 hoary and I'm told its best to run a "chroot" of x86 to get everything working just as well as in x86?  What is a chroot and where is a good tutorial for me to follow?12:30
jelhi all first time using ubuntu or linux for that matter, im liking what I see so far but I have having problems accessing an NTFS formatted drive when I try to mount it this error is thrown "mount: can't find /dev/hd1 in /ect/fstab or etc/mtab"12:30
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mjrws, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457512:31
husky1982got it now, but if i read out the ifconfig, theres no ip adress marked12:31
lsuactiafnerws : install a 32bit version of ubuntu somewhere and chroot to it.. like i do12:31
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wsahh12:31
wsmk12:31
Fabianjel, never write on a NTFS with linux. You gonna screw that partition12:31
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HappyFooljel: mount takes (at least) two arguments12:31
lsuactiafnerws : but most programs run in the 64bit environemnt very very well12:31
lsuactiafneryou dont need a chroot12:31
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HappyFooljel: first make a mount point, something like /media/windows (e.g., sudo mkdir /media/windows)12:32
wslsuactiafner, I've noticed but some regular 32bits arent in repository12:32
wssuch as java and flash on mozilla12:32
HappyFooljel: then 'mount -t ntfs -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/windows'12:32
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lsuactiafnerws : i got the j2sdk and j2re from direct from sun12:32
lsuactiafnerworks perfectly12:32
lsuactiafnerdont know about flash tho12:32
HappyFooljel: sorry, then 'sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/windows'12:32
SeveasFabian, you can aptitude install openssh-server12:33
Seveasit's on the ce12:33
Seveascd12:33
FabianSeveas, with the live CD?12:33
Seveashmm12:33
Seveasno :)12:33
wsahh12:33
jelthanks for the info guys, ill just leave it for now as im running this on my work laptop and don't wanna screw it up, thanks anyway12:33
wshmm12:33
FabianSeveas, what now? :P12:33
fivreHey, when you download a package and extract it, where do you open the program?12:33
Seveasit's still apt=get installable12:33
HappyFooljel: those commands mount read-only, should be safe12:33
Seveasbut from the web12:33
FabianSeveas, cool12:34
Fabiangood to know12:34
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FabianSeveas, it'll install into ram or something???12:34
Seveasyes :|12:34
Fabiansuperduper12:34
Seveasso it'll be wiped when you reboot12:34
Fabianpfp, see? problem solverd12:34
lsuactiafnerws : i run firefox in a chroot tho..12:34
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FabianAlright, I'm off12:35
lsuactiafnerbasically becuase i dont feel like importing settings12:35
lsuactiafnerlol12:35
Fabiancu tomorrow everyone12:35
flyingpenguin900hmm whats with this synaptic thing?12:36
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fivreWhere is te stuff I apt-got?12:36
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lsuactiafnerflyingpenguin900 : if it misfires you are fscked12:36
lsuactiafnerfront end to apt-get12:36
flyingpenguin900I just switched to ubuntu frome FC3(I am verry new to linux) and someone told me this is the yum replacement. but I serch for stuff, and nuthing comes up.12:36
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lsuactiafnerread up on wiki about it12:37
Burgundaviaflyingpenguin900, have you enabled universe? I gather not12:37
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LinuxJonesflyingpenguin900, can you run synaptic ?12:37
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scorpixis it possible to backport a nightly release of firefox?12:38
flyingpenguin900LinuxJones, yes, it does start with an error though. but that is because I closed wile in the middle of installing something befor12:38
flyingpenguin900Burgundavia, how would I do that?12:38
lsuactiafnerscorpix : compiling firefox aint fun12:38
lsuactiafnertrust me on that12:38
scorpixhmm12:38
Bisclaveretare there any dos/win VMs for ubuntu?12:39
Burgundaviahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto/12:39
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ironmcwhy can I open my cdrom drives from the terminal but not by pushing the button on the drive?12:39
Burgundaviaflyingpenguin900, see that link12:39
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scorpixlsuactiafner: do you know when deer park 2 or the final version will release?12:39
zwartbisclav: you can get vmware for linux12:40
zwartnot cheap though12:40
Burgundaviascorpix, no idea, but it will probably miss Breezy12:40
Bisclaveretzwart12:40
Bisclaveretack. enter key. zwart: thats a little much for what i'm trying to do12:40
lsuactiafnerno idea12:40
mjrBisclaveret, dosbox will work for many older dos apps, wine will work for some windows software (though not a VM), and for a generic free vm, there's qemu12:40
zwartyou could try wine12:40
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zwartor bochs12:40
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zwartwine isnt a vm though12:41
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Bisclavereti'm trying to extract some SFX archives of win2kpro ERD images to diskettes so i can attempt to repair my windows install, or copy the files to a fat16 formatted diskette to see if my 386 can extract them12:41
refuze2loozedoes anybody here use xmame?12:41
lsuactiafnerdosbox rocks12:41
lsuactiafnerlol12:41
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lsuactiafnerplayed dune2 in it12:41
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mjrBisclaveret, wine is a good bet for such a simple task as to run a self-extracter12:41
concept10refuze2looze, ive used it before12:42
griffok, installed ubuntu - I've dragged an mp3 into rhythmbox but it cannot find a plugin... what do I need to install?12:42
mjrthough you'd have to configure it a bit12:42
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HappyFool!uboto restricted12:42
djm62http://headrush.typepad.com/creating_passionate_users/2005/06/building_a_succ.html12:42
ubotuWish i knew, HappyFool12:42
HappyFoolbother12:42
HappyFoolgriff: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats should tell you what you need to do12:42
refuze2loozeconcept10: i was asking because i compiled a version with support for newer roms.. dunno if anyone is interested to have it made public12:42
griffHappyFool, thanks12:42
griff:)12:42
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LefraruHola12:43
witlessXorg is taking up 99.9% of processor as soon as an X client/server connection is made, rendering the machine useless.  any suggestions?12:43
concept10refuze2looze, send it to the guy who maintains it12:43
Lefraru#ubuntu-es12:43
refuze2loozeconcept10: they don't support the newer roms for a reason ;)12:43
mjrwitless, try the VESA driver12:43
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concept10refuze2looze, copyright reasons?12:43
flyingpenguin900thank you Burgundavia.12:44
witlessmjr, i have an nvidia card - is the nvidia driver not usable?12:44
Burgundaviaflyingpenguin900, np12:44
nalioth_wrknubotu Restricted12:44
uboturestricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:44
refuze2loozeconcept10: no. more like moral reasons. they don't want to support any game that was released within the past 3 years or so12:44
HappyFoolah12:44
nalioth_wrknHappyFool: ya got to capitalize on your requests   lol12:44
Bisclaveretrefuze2looze: i'd be happy if someone would make a mame32 with support for something more recent than mame v.64 ;)12:44
concept10refuze2looze, what kind of bs it that?  Anyway, gimme a PS2 emulator12:44
seth_kBisclaveret, what's the current version of mame32?12:45
refuze2loozeBisclaveret: 0.64? why don't you use xmame 0.97??12:45
mjrwitless, nobody knows if it's usable for your spesific situation, it being non-free and all12:45
refuze2loozeconcept10, hehe.. i wish i can do that =P12:45
witlessmjr: can i select vesa in dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server ?12:45
nalioth_wrknwitless: you sure can12:45
concept10speaking of games, im off to pwn truecombat12:46
witlessnalioth_wrkn: mjr: thx12:46
refuze2loozeconcept10, it's one thing to find mame drivers for roms here and there and throw em into the source code.. and another to make a ps2 emulator =P12:46
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husky1982mein gott.. nchstes problem12:47
refuze2loozeBisclaveret, mame32 is for windows and it's dead anyways. what would you want with that? i do intend on eventaully creating my own frontend to the custom version of xmame (if i see that anybody has any interest in using it)12:47
husky1982okay, got the internet connection12:47
griffHappyFool, got it sorted! Thanks! :D12:47
husky1982now i installed the apatche12:47
seth_khmm, xmame .86 is in ubuntu, and .96 is in debian. I might see about yoinking .97 into Ubuntu12:47
husky1982no rpoblem12:47
nalioth_wrknhusky1982: bitte?12:48
husky1982but if i try to install the mysql-server, it doesn't work..12:48
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husky1982sais package mysql-server is not available, but is referred to another package...12:48
refuze2loozeseth_k, the debian sid packages install perfectly on ubuntu btw.. i tried em12:48
husky1982ad so on12:49
husky1982nalioth, du verstehst mich wenigstens ;)12:49
husky1982hast du ahnung von dem zeuch?12:49
seth_kthanks for the info refuze2looze, if 0.97 doesn't appear soon I'll go ahead and grab it then12:50
naliothhusky1982: i used to verstehst sie, but its been 10 years back12:50
CheticWhy do I get this when trying to run an OpenGL application after installing and getting the fglrx drivers to work: "fgl_glxgears: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"12:51
JDigitalWonder why UAE isn't working.12:51
JDigitalmaybe it's a sound thing12:51
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Loki_VAhi people12:52
djm62are those proprietary drivers, not fully supported on x86-64?12:52
husky1982nalioth,  hope you understand me.. do you know somethng about this mysql?12:52
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naliothhusky1982: neither in deutch or english12:52
Loki_VAWhats with the fee CD offer? How can ubuntu afford to do this?12:52
Loki_VA*free12:52
JDigitalIt's run by a millionaire12:52
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husky1982hm.. thats not that good12:52
fivresponsorship12:52
JDigitalor billionaire?12:53
Cheticdjm62, they're extremly supported x86_64 drivers from ati12:53
naliothLoki_VA: the founder of ubuntu has a few coins12:53
djm62a space millionaire ;)12:53
Loki_VAand will they ship to Australia?12:53
zythbloody winetools12:53
naliothLoki_VA: if you have a postal box, they'll ship12:53
Loki_VAim on dialup and only have 4.10 here12:53
Loki_VAcool12:53
naliothLoki_VA: you are still ahead of things, on average12:53
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djm62Chetic: then you're ok ;) ATI are wide open to you as a paying customer12:54
Loki_VAi dont have a post box but gave my home address will that matter?12:54
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microhaxoWtf12:54
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microhaxoi installed the ATI DRIVER12:54
Loki_VAim running fedora now but really want to get into ubuntu12:54
microhaxoand i still get this error12:54
microhaxoGL_EXT_bgra not supported - bailing out.12:54
JDigitalcheck you don't have an nVidia card12:54
griffok - how do I login as root in ubuntu12:54
griff?12:54
Loki_VAit's based on debian yes?12:54
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microhaxofedora = redhat12:54
Cheticdjm62, well yeah... but it's not like their drivers is the big issue here.. it's more of an ubuntu problem I beleive12:54
Bisclaveretloki: they ship everywhere, almost12:54
JDigitalsudo -s12:54
BurgundaviaLoki_VA, yes12:55
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BurgundaviaLoki_VA, specifically, Debian Sid12:55
Loki_VAmicrohaxo, indeed12:55
Loki_VAnice12:55
lsuactiafnernvidia drivers work great as long as you dont use apt-get12:55
Bisclaveretloki: my package of 10 cd's was shipped for free to me in the US via 2-3 countries it looked like, i think sweden12:55
lsuactiafnerin my experience12:55
Burgundavialsuactiafner, I would disagree with that12:55
Loki_VABisclaveret, how long did it take?12:55
Burgundavialsuactiafner, and please avoid telling people not to use apt-get12:55
Bisclaveretabout 4 weeks12:55
Burgundavialsuactiafner, it is very bad advice, and likely to break peoples systems12:56
Loki_VAlol i could download it sooner than that on dialup hehe12:56
lsuactiafnerBurgundavia : well they used apt-get and ran into a problem.. so my suggestion is valid12:56
JDigitalnvidia drivers mysteriously worked for me12:56
JDigitalI mean in the upgrade12:56
Bisclaveretprobably. but i wish Mandrake had had that option12:56
Cheticthe fuck.. somebody should know how to make applications find a file that I already HAVE12:56
lsuactiafnerapt-get aint the endall beginall12:56
JDigitalI had heard that nvidia drivers like dto crash12:56
JDigitalwhen you upgraded to hoary12:56
JDigitalI have the drivers from the website12:56
lsuactiafnerBurgundavia : and it wouldnt break a system to compile from source.12:56
lsuactiafnercompiling from source makes things more compatable for my specific system12:57
Burgundavialsuactiafner, telling people to compile from source is terrible advice, and should not be given12:57
djm62lsuactiafner: your case is atypical, most people will not be better off compiling from source12:57
lsuactiafnerBurgundavia : whats wrong with source?12:57
Burgundavialsuactiafner, it does not interface with apt/dpkg12:57
Burgundaviaand unless you know what you are doing, you can seriously mess up stuff12:58
lsuactiafnerdjm62 : yeh but it an option12:58
djm62lsuactiafner: it's an extra step that can go wrong, it places too much responsibility on the user to manually administer the system12:58
lsuactiafnerunlike windows linux offers many alternatives.12:58
lsuactiafnerdjm62 : users shouldnt be idiots.12:58
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naliothLoki_VA: you order some, and hand them out (they're packaged quite nicely)12:58
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naliothlsuactiafner: we all started out as idiots12:59
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djm62lsuactiafner: so is washing your hard drive with soap...anyone that can compile from source already knows how to do so, anyone that needs to be told shouldn't be doing it12:59
lsuactiafnernalioth : but then we progres..12:59
djm62lsuactiafner: and users shouldn't be administrators, as far as possible12:59
djm62(hence the name)12:59
lsuactiafnerdjm62 : i think its better to cheer ppl on to become power users01:00
lsuactiafnerencourage em01:00
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naliothlsuactiafner: so it's possible to have peeps in here who are technically 'idiots'01:00
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Burgundavialsuactiafner, that is fine, but a lot of people have no interest, and we need to cater to them as well, which linux traditionally doesn't do01:00
djm62who wants to be a "power user" with a broken machine?01:00
Bisclaveretdjm62: i have extensive knowledge in CP/M and ms-dos 3.01-6.22, and a little bit of the win9x's, but i know virtually nothing about unix/linux, macs, or any form of programming language beyond COBOL and GW-BASIC. that makes me an ubernoob in most people's eyes ;)01:00
lsuactiafnerwell i'm catering to the power user..01:00
HappyFooldjm62: but at least it's an *optimally* broken machine01:00
naliothlsuactiafner: yes, the path to Power is a great one01:00
lsuactiafnerand encouraging ppl to do as i do..01:01
Burgundaviain any case, this dicussion has dragged on long enough01:01
lsuactiafnerif apt-get fails em i suggest an alternative01:01
Burgundavia#ubuntu is for helping people, and the ubuntu way is not to use source01:01
lsuactiafnerBurgundavia : sounds like microsoft.01:01
naliothBurgundavia: unless absolutely positively the last resort.. .. .. ..01:01
Burgundavialsuactiafner, the option is there, we just don't promote it01:01
refuze2loozeis there a utility to see CRC codes of files in a zip?01:01
parabolizeI am trying to make a shell that copies a path.txt from a mod in se4 and opens se4 in wine. Does anybody know of a good howto?01:02
griffok guys - I want to install a backup program to backup my shiny new ubuntu installation every week or so - what's my options? :)01:03
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Seveasparabolize, please repeat that in a way tat we can understand it...01:03
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Seveasgriff, tar, rsync, mondo01:03
Seveasin order of usability :)01:03
griff:)01:03
fivrehow do I use something after I apt-get install it?01:04
Burgundaviafivre, what is it?01:04
griffI was hoping for a something a little more user-friendly, but I can handle my way around rsync :)01:04
Seveasfivre, run it :D01:04
Seveasgriff, mondo is really nice01:04
griffany cron clones have a gui for me that's installed01:04
fivrexmms and bitchx01:04
Burgundaviafivre, some apps install something to the menu01:04
djm62griff: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backups.html01:04
fivrethey didn't, apparently01:04
griffDJ_Mirage, thanks01:04
Seveasfivre: bitchx must be run from shell01:04
Bisclaveretis there a sorted list directory utility in ubuntu or linux anywhere that is akin to say, the old IBM Sorted Directory List Util? ls -a does an okay job..01:04
parabolizeI want to make a shell that copies a text file from one directory to another then opens a game in wine.01:05
Seveasfivre, applications -> sound & video -> xmms01:05
griffMondo sounds interesting01:05
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Seveasfivre, and try beep-media-player instead of xmms01:05
Bisclaverethttp://www.angelfire.com/moon/bisclaveret0/d.jpg <--example of said utility01:05
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griffis mondo pre-installed? I can only find the docs for it01:05
Seveasgriff, no01:06
Seveasit requires mono01:06
griffooooooooooo01:06
fivreThere is no "sound & video"01:06
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griffI take it I have to install mono first? But I got a feeling Mono isn't in Ubuntu yet01:06
Loki_VAsay btw, any Americans in the room may wanna check this out, scary: http://www.chromance.de/wtf/lol.htm01:07
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Burgundaviagriff, it is in Hoary and Breezy01:07
griffaha found it01:07
heimdallre01:07
griffmono-mcs?01:07
Burgundaviagriff, what about you trying to do with mono?01:08
heimdallLinuxJones : so.. I'm not surprised.... I'm still with windows :/01:08
Burgundaviadevelop with it or just run an app with it?01:08
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Loki_VAadditionally any dell owners too ^^01:08
djm620_001:08
griffok I think we've got wires crossed here01:08
HappyFoolSeveas: you sure about that? the deps for mondo look very unixy to me01:08
griffI'm talking about mondo here, I don't think it needs mono01:08
deviantfor a creative sound blaster live card, what do i need to install, besides emu10k1 module ?01:09
djm62so much for "use a laptop for secure stuff, no risk of keyloggers"01:09
HillTopHelp! How do I empty trash in Hoary installed?  The help says click trash on desktop or from file menu. Neither has Trash!!01:09
Loki_VAindeed01:09
griffseeing that you want to restore your sys partition, you don't want "complicated" deps01:09
biovoreintressting01:09
HappyFoolmondo's right there in synaptic, anyway01:09
biovorehardware key logger01:09
Loki_VAcrazy huh01:09
Loki_VAOrwell was on the ball01:09
seth_kbut Loki_VA, those pictures are the same ones as are on http://www.dansdata.com/keyghost.htm01:10
griffHappyFool, I can't find it, and that was when I searched for it in the package manager01:10
heimdallLinuxJones : but I saw something... xorg.config seems to know my chipset is SiS630 since it is written : driver = "sis"01:10
HappyFoolgriff: it's in 'universe' -- you might need to enable that01:10
griffah ok01:10
seth_kwouldn't he take pictures of his version if it were real?01:10
Loki_VAseth_k, really? interesting01:10
HappyFoolgriff: settings -> repositories -> add01:10
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Loki_VAi was wondering that myself01:10
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seth_kLoki_VA, the first picture is the only one that is not from my link01:11
seth_kLoki_VA, and look at the quality difference01:11
HappyFoolLoki_VA: according to boingboing, that homeland security seal is incorrect, and the whole thing is prob a hoax01:11
seth_kfirst is very fuzzy, the other three are professional01:12
HillTopHelp! I need to empty trash and 'Places -> trash' shows theere is no trash bin/file. But I just deleted/trashed several 700 MB iso files and no space is freed up.01:12
griffnope, I have universe added and I still can't find it01:12
Loki_VAok then01:12
Loki_VAwhy would u hoax that?01:13
abarbacciacan someone help me explain why when i go to try and add things to my init.d scripts so that daemons start at bootup, they refuse to stay running?01:13
griffonly thing I'm finding mondo-doc01:13
djm62still, remember covert channels...if you really want to be secure, don't even plug it in01:13
HappyFoolgriff: you are running on x86 or .. ?01:13
Loki_VAmust be a dell hater or some such lol the link itself had me curious01:13
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griffHappyFool, amd64 - maybe that's the pisser01:13
HappyFoolgriff: ah01:13
griffthey haven't compiled for that version yet :-/01:14
HappyFoolgriff: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=mondo&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all01:14
HappyFoolonly i38601:14
griffdang01:14
deviantanyone ?01:14
HappyFoolgriff: try maybe 'bacula'. never used it, but it has a great name ;)01:15
griff:) will do01:15
HappyFool"sucks the data out of your drives at night", sthg like that01:15
HillTopOK, OK, so no one here empties trash but I need to empty trash. I'm using Hoary (installed on HD) and running out of disk space. Thanks.01:15
griffit's for backing up over a network01:15
griffhttp://www.bacula.org/01:15
HappyFoolit doesn't have non-network operation?01:16
djm62HillTop: bottom right trash icon, right-click, select "Empty Wastebasket"?01:16
grifflooking now01:16
naliothgriff try "sudo apt-get build-dep <pkgname>"  << this will install dependencys for mondo01:16
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osityraid01:16
osityanyone know hoe to set it up01:16
naliothgriff: where <pkgname> is mondo01:16
djm62is it apt-get -b install mondo ? or apt-get -b source mondo?01:16
griffnalioth, will try now thanks01:16
microhaxohow can i fix this error01:17
microhaxoerror while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:17
naliothdjm62: "sudo apt-get source -b mondo"01:17
HillTopdjm62, thank you now I see it !!!! Ah, so much better. Thanks.01:17
JDigitalHey ho, my sound no worky.01:17
naliothdjm62: but ya need build-deps first01:17
JDigitalin Flash.01:17
griffnalioth, one thing.... root - I've just installed ubuntu - what's the password :)01:17
djm62nalioth: yeah...I do build-dep habitually01:17
naliothgriff: use sudo01:17
griffI am :)01:17
naliothdjm62: you may, but does griff and others who are reading/lurking?01:17
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griffit's bringing up "password:"01:17
naliothgriff: so give it yours01:18
djm62griff: there is no root passwd01:18
griffhehe sorted :)01:18
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eric__I just connected a ps2 mouse, and ubuntu won't detect it even after restarting, what should I do?01:19
deviantcommon guys... what do i need to install for a SB Live sound card, besides emu10k1 module ? anyone ?!?01:19
griffok, so in ubuntu do I sudo everything when I want to do something in root?01:19
naliothgriff: correct01:19
lsuactiafnerdeviant : whats wrong witht he sound?01:19
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griffok01:19
dgtlhi everyone01:19
djm62deviant: nothing, apart from snd-emu10k1...it should be ok out of the box01:19
SkinnybrownCould somebody please help me get my laptop to join my wireless network?01:20
griffI'm installing some other packages ATM, will try to install mondo in twenty mins or so01:20
eric__and also, how do I install ndiswrapper?01:20
eric__I can't even figure out how to Dl the kernel sources...01:20
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grifffeels strange letting the distro rule me more than I rule it :)01:20
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deviantlsuactiafner: ok. i`ve just installed it to my box. i`ve configure it, but i still can`t get a sound. in stead, the old sound card (the one onboard) plays the sounds :(01:20
griffhehe01:21
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naliothgriff: if you are on amd64, you'll find a familiarty with build-dep and apt source installs quite handy01:21
griffused redhat, slackware, linuxfromscratch, gentoo01:21
griffin the past01:21
black_Nightmareany of you know a bit about laptop hardwares in a technical way? ;_)01:21
naliothgriff: amd64 and ppc arches are lacking a bunch of binaries found in x86 arches01:21
griffnalioth, thanks - I'm not worried about doing some "work"01:21
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djm62deviant: ok...your onboard sound is being configured as sound-card-001:21
Loki_VAblack_Nightmare, how so?01:22
forsakenIs there a way to run the hardware detection stuff from inside of an install?01:22
lsuactiafnerdeviant : reboot the pc, go into the bios, disable the onboard sound01:22
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naliothgriff: since you plan on 'working', are you familiar with 'checkinstall'?01:22
deviantdjm62: i don`t know for sure. but it was the only sound card in the box, untill 30 minutes ago, so i think the answer is yes01:22
black_Nightmareloki_va do you know about minipci and/or pcmcia out of curiousity?01:22
ironmcHi everybody01:23
lsuactiafnerummm01:23
djm62deviant: if you can disable it in bios, it's probably a good option, otherwise it's quite simple to stop it taking priority...01:23
griffnalioth, not really, explain pls :)01:23
lsuactiafnerwhats a good program to enhance an image01:23
lsuactiafnerlike leet rerendering to make it look much clearer?01:23
deviantdjm62: let me reboot 1st. let`s see if it does the trick01:23
Loki_VAblack_Nightmare, some, whats the problem?01:23
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forsakenFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted01:23
forsaken??01:23
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ironmcI can't seem to open my cdrom drives with the botton on the drive but I can using a terminal and "eject"  any ideas01:24
lsuactiafnerforsaken : sudu modprobe ndiswrapper01:24
naliothlsuactiafner: ya tried gimp?01:24
black_Nightmarewell I was curious whats the theriocal max bandwidth for either expansion slots? :">01:24
deviantdjm62: haha. don`t wonder. i don`t habe a pcix slot ...yer01:24
deviant*yet01:24
lsuactiafnernalioth : got gimp but am hoping there is something better01:24
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naliothlsuactiafner: not unless you've got a mac01:25
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griffnalioth, ok I see01:25
dgtlanyone know how to change the color that shows up when you are logging in?01:25
dgtl(desktop)01:25
lsuactiafnerhmm01:25
Cableguygimp is awsome01:25
dgtli've changed the desktop color but it doesn't work01:25
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djm62lsuactiafner: skilled use of gimp is probably a good option, unless you have technical knowledge of the sort of noise you have and some specialist domain-specific software01:25
naliothgriff: checkinstall will save you lots of swearing when it comes time to upgrade/remove things01:25
lsuactiafnerwhat filters should i run to enhance it?01:25
naliothgriff: but the debs it makes are for your own personal use (backup binarys)01:25
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forsakenlsuactiafner, I'm already root01:26
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Loki_VAnot sure on minipci but pcmcia is ~132mb i thinks01:26
HablandocontigoCan someone help me troubleshoot my microphone? I have audacity but nothing records. It's frustrating.01:27
djm62lsuactiafner: right-click on the image...Filters->Enhance->* is probably a good start01:27
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lsuactiafnerdid you run modprobe ndiswrapper?01:27
lsuactiafnerhmm suppose01:27
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forsakenlsuactiafner, this is a newly installed system01:27
black_Nightmareloki_va..ty anyway..when my browser dies down needing a lot of cpu (several windows on various sites here hehe) I'll try look up some actual numbers01:27
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black_Nightmarebut now I guess I'll go with 132mb just for starters (paper sketches)01:27
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djm62...and people criticise ease-of-use ;)01:28
lsuactiafneryeh but did you run it?01:28
parabolizeI want to make a shell that would simplify this http://users.adelphia.net/~phann8/paininthe!.txt01:28
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deviantdjm62: it is working :)01:28
deviantdjm62: damn, sometimes i realize i`m so stupid. i relly forgot about disableing the onboard sound card :(01:28
HablandocontigoIn sound preferences I can't play the sounds, though the files are present, what could this mean?01:29
husky1982got extrem problems with my keyboard...01:30
djm62parabolize: skip the cd bit and use ~/ paths throughout, and put #!/bin/bash as the first line01:30
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parabolizedjm62: trying that, thanks01:30
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griffE: Unable to find a source package for mondo01:31
griffhmmm01:31
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crazyhorseuuh. finally, i'm here :)01:31
naliothgriff: then its on to plan b (btw, did your build-dep run ok?)01:32
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Bisclaveretoh cheese01:33
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Bisclaveretfixme:int21:INT21_GetExtendedError Unknown error 178401:34
Bisclavereterr:int21:INT21_Ioctl_Block int21: unknown/not implemented parameters:01:34
Bisclaveretint21: AX 440d, BX 0001, CX 0862, DX e648, SI 1070, DI 5b37, DS 0000, ES 000001:34
Bisclaveretetc01:34
lsuactiafner   <Linforcer> heh, I just told m girfriend I like my women like I like I like my programming01:34
lsuactiafner   <MuStR>     logical?01:34
lsuactiafner   <Linforcer> C++01:34
lsuactiafnerrofl01:34
crazyhorsei love these wine error messages =)01:34
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misfit-toy /me has no idea why anyone would taint a nice linux system with wine01:35
lewwythats not tainting!01:35
lewwyanyway01:35
seth_khehe. I installed IE6 in wine once. It was the only program that's ever crashed my entire box01:35
seth_ki.e., not just wine, but the whole thing01:35
zythmisfit-toy, cause Blizzard sucks and won't release a WoW client for Linux?01:35
Bisclaveretmisfit-toy: i'm trying to run some SFX archives to create some ERD's to repair my win2k drive01:36
lewwyI want to reinstall grub to my computer since Windows XP rewrote it.  I have an ubuntu live cd and system rescue cd.  Anyone help me please?01:36
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Bisclaveretmy linuxing is only an emergency/screw around thing, not an everyday thing as i know just enough to screw up my linux install and that's it ;)01:36
misfit-toyall I mean is that if you want to still run windows junk, just build a white box and term serve to it.01:36
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crazyhorsemisfit-toy, here in germany, companies MUST use an online tool for input taxes and this tool only runs under..winedows :/01:36
misfit-toycrazyhorse, understood01:37
caryshould my linux volume mount on my mac volumes list?01:37
Bisclaveretmisfit-toy: give me some money to build said box. next box below this 1.1ghz machine is a pentium 1 133mhz with a 6 gb harddrive01:37
seth_klewwy, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows01:37
Bisclaveretwhich also doesn't ever want to work as it's a Packard Hell01:37
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djm62crazyhorse: but...aren't portions of the deutsch.gov moving to SuSe?01:37
seth_klewwy, you have all the tools you need if you have a live cd :)01:38
andre_luizi'm with trouble to make my audio card work01:38
Bisclavereti think it bit the bullet a few months ago01:38
ositycan software raid 1 be done after the OS install01:38
osity?01:38
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andre_luiz0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)01:38
crazyhorseandre_luiz, which sound chip?01:38
crazyhorsewhich error message?01:39
xiaogilIs it possible, in a terminal, to copy the content of a text file in a memory, instead of creating a file, when using commands such as "cat myfile.txt > newfile", which would be something like "cat myfile.txt > memory1" ?01:39
djm62xiaogil: you could put it in /tmp01:40
andre_luizcrazyhorse, no error messages, xmms start playing but still no sound01:40
lewwythanks, that looks promosing01:40
lewwyseth_k, what tools would these be?01:40
djm62xiaogil: and as a rough temporary pad, cat > /dev/null and type what you will01:40
lsuactiafnerandre_luiz : put your volume on xmms up01:40
lewwyseth_k, for a grub install01:40
lsuactiafnerrun alsamixer01:41
andre_luizlsuactiafner, it's already high01:41
andre_luizaumix, i've tried too01:41
crazyhorseandre_luiz, i think there was a problem with alsa01:41
lsuactiafnerandre_luiz : then stop making it high (;01:42
andre_luiz Card: VIA 8237                                                                Chip: C-Media Electronics CMI9761                                             View: Playback                                                                Item: VIA DXS 301:42
andre_luizdamn =/01:42
andre_luizalsamixer seems to be right01:42
lewwyugh, why is the default gnome background poo brown01:43
djm62andre_luiz: definitely not muted anywhere?01:43
crazyhorseandre_luiz, alsamixer has detected everything correctly?01:43
djm62lewwy: because the designers liked brown, and it's distinctive01:43
flyingpenguin900what is the equivelent of a FC3 rpm for ubuntu... because when I open my p2p rpm it comes up like a zip file01:43
djm62flyingpenguin900: a .deb file01:44
djm62lewwy: and also, it can be changed in 30s or less ;)01:44
andre_luizcrazyhorse, seems to be right01:44
naliothdjm62: pray tell us, how?01:44
andre_luizDJ_Mirage, aumix and alsamixer don't show if is muted01:44
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djm62nalioth: right-click on the background, choose the appropriate image01:45
crazyhorseandre_luiz, and ahem..speakers are on power and connected correctly, i suppose? ;)01:45
djm62nalioth: or am I oddly mistaken?01:45
andre_luizcrazyhorse, they're all on01:46
andre_luizi don't know what can be01:46
andre_luizi'll brb01:46
crazyhorsewhich output plugin did you choose in xmms?01:46
djm62nalioth: is there a problem there? (sudden insecurity)01:46
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cianci10Can someone help me?01:47
crazyhorsecianci10, what's up?01:48
cianci10I lost that panel on the top of the screen, how do i get it back?01:48
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naliothdjm62: not the image, the 'poo brown' colour scheme01:49
JDigitalhehe01:49
djm62nalioth: oh, System->Preferences->Theme01:49
JDigitalit's not brown, it's golden01:49
naliothdjm62: i wear 'poo brown' underwear, if there is a problem, i don't see it01:49
crazyhorsecianci10, try alt+F2 and execute gnome-panel01:49
djm62although really nice gnome themes are rare, IMO01:50
crazyhorsealt+f2, not f4 ^^01:50
ivanoxhey, can anyone apt-get install xlibmesa-glu-dev without problems!? I get " http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xlibmesa-glu-dev_6.8.2-10_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.138 80] "01:51
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LinuxJonesivanox, that repository server is not working correctly01:51
ivanoxwtf01:51
ivanoxwhich one should I use then?01:51
ivanoxI took that one from ubuntuguide01:52
naliothivanox: edit your sources.list to remove the us. part of any address with us. prefacing it01:52
LinuxJonesivanox, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the .us part from all lines then apt-get update and try again01:52
flyingpenguin900djm62: and how do I run theas so called .deb files?01:52
ivanoxshould I just remove the us. ?01:52
LinuxJonesyeah01:52
ivanoxok, cool, I'll try it now01:52
crazyhorseflyingpenguin900, sudo dpkg -i file.deb01:52
Bisclaverethow do i mount my floppies?01:53
Bisclaveretmount /media/floppy0 doesn't work01:53
Bisclaveretmount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified01:53
djm62Bisclaveret: mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /mnt/point ?01:53
djm62Bisclaveret: is the disk OK? does -t vfat make a difference?01:54
Bisclaveretthe disk should be okay, i just bought them. ibm formatted, though. fat1601:54
flyingpenguin900crazyhorse: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process01:54
LinuxJonesflyingpenguin900, do you have synaptic open ?01:55
flyingpenguin900yes...01:55
HablandocontigoDoes anyone have the problem where you put files on a cd and then pick write-to-cd and some of the files end up corrupt on the CD? it happens everytime01:55
crazyhorseflyingpenguin900, is synaptic running?01:55
naliothflyingpenguin900: you can only use one apt or dpkg at a time01:55
LinuxJonesflyingpenguin900, close it and try again01:55
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naliothHablandocontigo: i don't use nautilus built in burner for that reason01:55
naliothHablandocontigo: try k3b or gnomebaker or graveman01:55
Hablandocontigonalioth: can we report a bug?01:56
Hablandocontigonalioth: or is it already known?01:56
lewwyARGH!01:56
naliothHablandocontigo: bugzilla.ubuntu.org01:56
naliothHablandocontigo: bugzilla.ubuntu.com, i mean01:56
Hablandocontigonalioth: thanks!01:56
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lewwy* /sbin/init: 428: cannot open dev/console: No such file01:56
djm62Bisclaveret: -t fat should autodetect that, if I'm reading man mount correctly01:56
lewwyi get that after i try repairing grub01:57
lewwyand then01:57
lewwyKernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!01:57
Bisclaveretbisclaveret@Dragon:/media$ sudo mount -t fat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy001:57
Bisclaveretmount: unknown filesystem type 'fat'01:57
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Bisclaveret mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 ?01:58
LinuxJonesBisclaveret, they are new disks ?01:58
Bisclaveretyes01:58
naliothBisclaveret: instead of 'fat', tis actually 'vfat'01:58
LinuxJonesBisclaveret, are you going to nedd the files in windows ?01:58
Bisclaveretyes01:58
LinuxJoneserr need01:58
djm62Bisclaveret: never hurts to try...the page does say that FAT 12,16, or 32 will be autodetected01:58
flyingpenguin900why doesn't the gui auto open .deb as installers?01:59
LinuxJonesflyingpenguin900, what are you installing ?01:59
naliothflyingpenguin900: because there is no gui installer for debs01:59
crazyhorseflyingpenguin900, usually you don't want to fetch deb files and install them but use apt or synaptic for that issue02:00
Bisclaveretvfat appeared to work02:00
flyingpenguin900ya well apt doesn't have p2p...02:00
flyingpenguin900can ubuntu use .rar?02:00
djm62flyingpenguin900: yes02:01
flyingpenguin900how?02:01
djm62flyingpenguin900: search synaptic for "unrar"02:01
ivanoxnice try guys, but it didnt work, and I know why, the package it tries to find is supposed to be at http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/ and is called xlibmesa-glu-dev_6.8.2-10_i386.deb but if u manually browse it doesnt exist02:01
LinuxJonesflyingpenguin900, what p2p network  are you trying to use ?02:01
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naliothivanox: did you update your apt, after you edited out the 'us.'?02:01
ivanoxyup02:02
flyingpenguin900LinuxJones: Point2Play buddy02:02
crazyhorsedid you save the list, after you edited out the us.? :)02:02
Razor-Xflyingpenguin900: you mean, Point and Click?02:03
ivanoxu can try it yourself nalioth: apt-get install xlibmesa-glu-dev02:03
Razor-Xflyingpenguin900: P2P == Peer to Peer02:03
LinuxJonesflyingpenguin900, I haven't heard of that one02:03
crazyhorseisn't that transgaming stuff?02:03
flyingpenguin900ok guys Point2Play is a grafical interface for cedega... ok don't woryabought it. yes it is crazyhorse02:04
Razor-Xcrazyhorse: they had something similar, not Point2Play, IIRC02:04
Razor-Xoh, well, ok then ;)02:04
naliothivanox: will give it a go, but im on PPC02:04
ivanoxah ok02:04
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blinkhi02:04
naliothivanox: sorry, all i got was this >> xlibmesa-glu-dev is already the newest version02:04
Razor-Xnalioth: have you read the draft of my guide yet?02:04
blinkany1 can tell me how can i do aterm without boarder?02:04
ivanoxok lol02:04
flyingpenguin900hey if I know a program that only has a windows installer but you can download the source code can a linux installer be made for it? just wondering?02:04
ivanoxwhich repos do u have?02:04
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naliothRazor-X: draft? close the window02:05
naliothRazor-X: not yet02:05
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blinkany1 can tell me how can i do aterm without boarder?02:05
djm62flyingpenguin900: it depends on how it's programmed...it may or may not be portable02:05
Razor-Xnalioth: http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/CLI.pdf02:05
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naliothRazor-X: yes, i have the addy, just havent summoned my xpdf servant to read it to me02:06
Razor-Xhehe, ok02:06
blinkhmmm?02:06
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Razor-Xthe version on my HDD is a bit newer though02:06
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Razor-Xobviously, since i'm actively working on it02:06
unkn0wn.02:07
IFRFLYRHey, if you're running a ndiswrapper around a linksys driver, do you have to cabextract the inf files from the exe on a WINDOWS box or is there some ubuntu software which will let you do it?02:07
unkn0wnRazor-X,02:07
crazyhorseuuh that late? it's dawning ^^02:07
unkn0wnany1 can tell me how can i do aterm without boarder?02:07
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Bisclaveretit appeared to mount but nothing's showing up :/02:07
flyingpenguin900djm62:  http://gempond.com/odc02:07
naliothRazor-X: you got it goin on! first paragraph, and i'm strugglin to keep my eyes open! great writing! heh02:08
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IFRFLYRAnyone have any experience with ndiswrapper?02:08
Razor-Xnalioth: cool!02:08
flyingpenguin900does synaptic not have mplayer?02:08
capihow do I access a samba share on my linux box through windows?02:08
naliothflyingpenguin900: yes it does, in universe or multiverse02:08
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djm62Razor-X: you might want to include --long-option syntax as well02:09
flyingpenguin900nalioth: I serched for mplayer and nuthing came up. :(02:09
LinuxJonescapi, look to www.ubuntuguide.org02:09
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IFRFLYRcapi, go to Network Neighborhood in windows, click on the Windows network, the name of your network, the linux  box and there it is02:09
djm62Razor-X: and is zsh really older than bash? and the bourne shell is usually just "sh" (bash emulates it if called as /bin/sh)02:09
IFRFLYRIf you can't find it, search for computers near you; if not by name by IP address.02:09
IFRFLYRReally, no ndiswrapper users here? Honest?02:10
Razor-Xdjm62: I know that, but I called it BSH for non-confusing-ness02:10
Razor-Xalthough, I may change that02:10
fivreOK, if I installed xmms via Synaptic, where the heck is it?02:10
Razor-XI may expand piping to a total chapter on output redirectior, but... I don't know02:10
unkn0wnany1 can tell me how can i do aterm without border?02:11
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Razor-Xfivre: in a Terminal window, type xmms02:11
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flyingpenguin900hey in synaptic I serch for mplayer and nuthing comes up am I sercing roung?02:11
Razor-Xunkn0wn: man aterm (i'm thinking)02:11
dacrepairi'm trying to get xmms02:11
djm62Razor-X: also...you might like to mention that mv is the way to rename files02:11
crazyhorsefivre, applications -> sound & video -> xmms02:11
Razor-Xflyingpenguin900: did you add the extra repos?02:11
Razor-Xdjm62: ohhh yeah.... escaped my mind02:11
dacrepair?02:11
Razor-Xdjm62: and cp for backups02:12
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flyingpenguin900Razor-X: I aded universe...02:12
dacrepairwhat ive done is edited my .list file and typed apt-get install xmms02:12
djm62Razor-X: I can't imagine another use for cp...other than getting a spare copy of a file :-/02:13
microhaxoerror while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:13
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Razor-Xdjm62: heh02:13
dacrepairthats what happened02:13
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djm62dacrepair: apt-get update first02:13
Razor-Xflyingpenguin900: make sure you do sudo apt-get update02:14
dacrepairso type this "apt-get update"02:14
djm62dacrepair: yeah02:14
dacrepairok02:14
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Razor-Xaptitude is awesome, i'm never going back to apt-get ;)02:14
dacrepairand just so u no, i did use root02:14
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apollo2011I used to have Konqueror automatically refresh when new files were added to the directory it was in, if they were created by another window/program.  Now it seems to have stopped doing that and I can't figure out where that setting is02:15
razAnyone knows the name of the QT2 libs throu apt-get?02:15
paxonInstalled Ubuntu couple of days ago, I'm afraid everything is working fine, now I'm bored!02:15
djm62Razor-X: also...you've missed a unix stalware: cat!02:15
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flyingpenguin900hey I just realized that it never asked me for a root pasword therefor I don't know what it is and I cant do su... I have to use the root terminal02:15
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Razor-Xdjm62: ahhh, did I forget it?02:15
flyingpenguin900wait nvm I just figured it out02:16
Razor-Xdjm62: i'm forgetting a lot, actually02:16
Razor-Xdjm62: I knew I needed feedback in that section02:16
dacrepairtype this02:16
djm62flyingpenguin900: there is no root user...you always use temporary privileges02:16
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apollo2011paxon: lol! are you complaing? ;-P02:16
Razor-Xdjm62: you know what's really fun?02:16
djm62flyingpenguin900: I said that wrong...there is no root passwd02:16
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Razor-Xwhy use cp, when you can "cat foo > bar" ? ;)02:17
paxonapollo2011, no just stunned. Last I used Linux was 3 years ago. I mean this Ubuntu is just perfect, atleast in my experience.02:17
flyingpenguin900ya... just got confused there for a seccond. new to linux and have only learned abought 1 flavor02:17
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dacrepair"su should work"02:18
Razor-XI may also lump some of the more advanced commands together02:18
apollo2011paxon: lol I know.  I was using SuSE and tried out Ubuntu when I heard about it in several news articles on the Net and I was amazed to.  Definitely better than any other distro.  It is particularly interesting to look at the goals for Breezy on the wiki02:18
djm62Razor-X: why emacs sources.list when you can cat >> sources.list ? ;)02:18
Razor-Xdjm62: emacs... ewww ;)02:18
flyingpenguin900if I install something using synaptic do I have to restart to get links in my start bar or do the programs not make links (meaning I have to make my own)02:18
paxonapollo2011, word.02:19
Bisclaveretargra. alright, is there any other windows emulator like wine?02:19
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crazyhorsedad, why do we hide from the police? -- they use emacs, son. we use vi =)02:19
fivreHow do I make a SBLive! work?02:19
Bisclaveretbecause wine obviously isn't working, and dosbox doesn't work as the archives can't be run in dos mode02:19
crazyhorsefivre, install your kernel headers and build alsa from the source02:19
djm62Razor-X: I have used sed rather than vi before... /me dangerous02:19
dacrepairopen a terminal02:19
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Razor-Xdjm62: hehehe02:20
dacrepairtype sswd02:20
razAnyone knows the name of the QT2 libs throu apt-get? QT3 won't do..02:20
crazyhorsedjm62, i fear you ;)02:20
Razor-Xdjm62: I was thinking of adding sed too... but... was not sure02:20
dacrepairasks for a password?02:20
Razor-Xcrazyhorse: haha! god one!02:20
dacrepairthen type in ur nu pass02:20
TokenBadquestion on running ftp on ubunto02:20
TokenBadI added a user to a dir02:20
TokenBadsay a group dir02:20
TokenBadfor uploading stuff02:20
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TokenBaddoes that dir need to have some set settings to allow people to upload?02:21
netsurfhmm need help with the grub bootloader with the 64 bit edition of ubuntu02:21
netsurfi get a code 1702:21
netsurfits like it wipes the installation02:21
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netsurfafter grub is installed02:21
ivanoxanyone on i386 that could try this: apt-get install xlibmesa-dev02:22
djm62Razor-X: the nice way to do it would be to do "idiomatic usage" for each of the commands: everyone knows "tar -xzvf" "sed -e's/find/replace/' " and so on02:22
crazyhorseGet:1 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main xlibmesa-gl-dev 6.8.2-10 [748kB] 02:22
dacrepairdid that work?02:22
crazyhorse(etc) works fine.02:22
ivanoxde.archive02:22
ivanoxhmm02:22
ivanoxI try that one02:22
Razor-Xdjm62: yeah, but that doesen't make you think02:23
Razor-Xdjm62: that makes you memorize02:23
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Razor-Xand without knowing the individual paramaters, you can't even come close to harnessing the true power of the command-line02:23
crazyhorseivanox, if this won't work either, for a small fee of $5,000.00 i will email you the .debs ;)02:23
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netsurfmy hd is booting froma lone usb for safty purposes it boots but says that it cannot recognise the partition what is going on?02:23
ivanoxcrazyhorse, hehee ;)02:24
djm62Razor-X: one of the user interface areas which the command line excels in is "BLT syndrome"...muscle memory02:24
netsurfunder grub02:24
ivanoxcrazyhorse, thanks for that repo, it worked :)02:24
ivanoxfucking standard one, fucked me up for this long lol02:24
crazyhorseivanox, grats :)02:24
Razor-Xdjm62: the intended muscle memory by the short letter sequences and the close-together keys will never work htat way with me..... I use Dvorak02:24
Razor-X*that02:25
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djm62Razor-X: another one you haven't mentioned: alias ;)02:25
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Razor-Xahhhh! yes02:25
flyingpenguin900is there a way to get an adress bar on my browser(window browser)02:25
ivanoxI use swedish locale of dvorak(svorak), started last month, it's awesome :)02:25
magogflyingpenguin900 use konqueror02:26
Razor-Xivanox: congrats!02:26
djm62flyingpenguin900: is it not the window title?02:26
ivanoxeveryone should write dvorak hehe02:26
Razor-Xyeah, most definitely02:26
HablandocontigoWhat's the best way to manage mail-list communication?02:26
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Razor-Xand put away that idiotic mouse, a trackball is the way to go ;)02:26
djm62and speak esperanto while wearing vegetarian shoes!02:27
Hablandocontigosaluton!02:27
TokenBadanyone know?02:27
HablandocontigoCxu vi parolas esperanton?02:27
flyingpenguin900magog: what is konqueror???02:27
Razor-Xso what if I use nothing computer-standardized, not my fault ;)02:27
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Razor-Xflyingpenguin900: only the kickassiest browser you've ever seen.... second to Opera, of course ;)02:27
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flyingpenguin900...that isn't what I ment by browser magog02:28
Razor-Xi'ld like to let all the new people in here know something, and remember it well........02:28
Razor-XGOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND02:28
fivrehow can I map middle mouseclick to ctrl+T?02:28
Razor-XXD, i'm done02:28
carydoes anyone have any idea why my audio wouldnt be working? i just installed gstreamer to work with music player. it says its playing but icant hear anything02:28
Razor-Xif you don't understand something at first, google it, or find a man page02:28
CheticWhen trying to run make.sh for fglrx I get this: "kernel includes at /usr/src/linux/include not found or incomplete"02:28
Chetichelp02:28
fivreRazor-X: Wikipedia is pretty nice too02:29
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Razor-Xfivre: but, not for Linux02:29
flyingpenguin900I mean a adress bar(that you can type in) in the window browser like when you open home or filesystem02:29
Razor-XI use it for mathematics a lot (i'm jumping 3 years of math this summer)02:29
Razor-Xalthough, if you used Google and man, most of us helpers here wouldn't have to help ;)02:29
Razor-Xnot that we're getting paid02:29
bigbill52ahave you installed your kernel headers...chetic?02:29
djm62Chetic: you need to install the kernel-headers package02:29
fivreflyingpenguin900: try adding a "Discs" shortcut to the panel02:30
fivreit brings it up in the file browser02:30
bigbill52athat was fast...lol..killed another bunny02:30
djm62flyingpenguin900: you can do it from ctrl-L02:30
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Cheticbigbill52a, damn straight, I have02:30
bigbill52awhat kernel?02:31
Cheticerr haven't got it memorized..02:32
Razor-Xhmmmm... I like my Konsole... but, what are the advantages of other terminals?02:32
djm62Chetic: and are they at /usr/src/linux or some variant that you need to specify?02:32
Razor-Xterminal emulators, excuse me02:32
Cheticdjm62, hang on..02:32
djm62Razor-X: rxvt is very small, gnome-terminal does good things with hyperlinks02:32
Razor-Xdjm62: i've heard lots about aterm and (Englightenment's) eterm02:33
flyingpenguin900djm62: don't want a pop up... I want to see it at the top like I did in FC3 like i do in windows.02:33
HablandocontigoHow does gnome manage to display foreign text correctly everywhere including firefox?02:33
djm62flyingpenguin900: gconf-editor02:33
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djm62Hablandocontigo: it has coders all over the globe...02:33
Cheticok bigbill52a, djm62, never mind..02:33
Madeyehmm anyone aware of opml to rss20 converter?02:33
xxcypherusxxI'm trying to get my webcam to work with spca5xx and in the wiki tutorial there is an inconsistancy that doesn't mach i02:34
xxcypherusxxup with my system02:34
Razor-XHablandocontigo: because of the unicode and ISO standards02:34
dacrepairok now i have xmms and btw, thankyou02:34
flyingpenguin900once agen djm62 not what I ment...02:34
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djm62flyingpenguin900: no, this is...02:35
Razor-Xflyingpenguin900: I see you find your visuals need to be fine-tuned to perfection02:35
HablandocontigoRazor-X: my debian configured KDE wasn't doing that, does ubuntu's kde work with unicode?02:35
flyingpenguin900djm62: you know when you have an internet browser? and there is that adress bar at the top. well that in the normal browser02:35
djm62flyingpenguin900: once you've started gconf-editor...02:35
dacrepairi want to play my music which is on another partition, how do i mount it because i know it isnt yet02:35
Razor-Xflyingpenguin900: yes it does, i'm in it right now02:35
djm62flyingpenguin900: apps->nautilus->preferences02:35
flyingpenguin900Razor-X: I have grown to be used to that bar.02:35
djm62flyingpenguin900: then check the box "Always use browser"02:35
djm62flyingpenguin900: it's the first box, and will make nautilus do what you want02:36
dacrepairis it "mount /dev/hda1 fat3202:36
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dacrepair"02:36
Razor-Xdjm62: hmmm, you know, if I started using Gnome today, and wanted that, I would look immediately in Nautilus prefs first02:36
_robhello everyone, i have a problem02:36
dacrepairok02:36
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Razor-Xdacrepair: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/mount/point -t vfat02:36
dacrepair_rob what is it02:36
_robi lost my kubuntu.desktop file02:36
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Razor-Xdjm62: just out of reflex, but, how come others don't understand that same thing?02:37
_roband i cant seem to fine the program i can put in my .desktop file that will start kde02:37
flyingpenguin900djm62: thank you, thank you, thank you02:37
djm62Razor-X: it isn't nautilus prefs as such...02:37
dacrepairo, i dont know anything about kubutu02:37
djm62Razor-X: this is to do with gnome HIG02:37
Razor-Xdjm62: directly after, i'ld search Gnome prefs02:37
_robreinstalling kubuntu-desktop doesnt give me the kubuntu.desktop file, nor does it give me something like startkde02:37
Razor-Xdjm62: and then, i'ld go on google02:37
djm62flyingpenguin900: hope it's what you were after ;)02:37
Razor-X_rob: kubuntu.desktop does not start KDE02:38
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Razor-Xerrrr... nevermind02:38
_robi know... but i want a nice little option for KDE in kdm/gdm/xdm02:38
Razor-Xdjm62: XD02:38
Razor-X_rob: KDM does load default with KDE in Kubuntu02:39
razAnybody successfully installed Qtella under ubuntu?02:39
_robill try that02:39
Razor-Xraz: if it's attemptable, it's been done02:39
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_robRazor-X: I will be back (unless it works)02:39
razRazor-X, I can't find the QT2 libs for it :(02:39
Razor-Xraz: you have all the repos?02:40
flyingpenguin900hey ubuntu isn't using my 2nd(virtual) cpu... wait does that just mean I booted to the roung kernel?02:40
Razor-Xraz: you use Gnome I presume?02:40
razRazor-X, pretty sure i do.. installed the QT3 ones.02:40
razRazor-X, yes.02:40
Razor-Xthen why use Qtella?02:40
zythflyingpenguin900, you want an SMP kernel most likely.02:40
zythLinux veritas 2.6.10-5-686-smp #1 SMP Tue Jun 7 09:34:54 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux02:40
razRazor-X, what do you recommand?..02:40
zythI have a HT Pentium IV so I use SMP02:41
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Razor-Xraz: GTK-Gnutella02:41
_robno luck02:41
_robis there a way to force a dist-downgrade (as in, no more breezy?)02:41
djm62flyingpenguin900: uname -a will give you the info that zyth just showed for your own system02:41
Razor-X_rob: try and change around the configs of KDM02:41
razRazor-X, bah, aight. Qtella's interface looks cleaner tho, no?..02:41
Razor-Xraz: all GTK apps look like that to me.... except VLC ;)02:42
xxcypherusxxcan someone help me install the spca5xx module?02:42
djm62xxcypherusxx: I think it's in gphoto202:43
xxcypherusxxoh really?02:43
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xxcypherusxxI saw a wiki about it https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Spca5xx and it has inconsistancies with their documentation and my system02:44
djm62xxcypherusxx: from a quick "locate spca" it's in lib/gphoto202:44
xxcypherusxxok i'll check it out02:44
djm62xxcypherusxx: xsane might help get images, or gimp02:45
concept10Anyone know a good place to get some fonts?02:45
xxcypherusxxafter installing the app how would I refresh the system so that the camera is detected?02:46
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eric__What package do I need to get the kernel sources?02:46
djm62xxcypherusxx: just plug it in and start the app02:46
crimsunlinux-tree-2.6.10 if you're on hoary, eric__02:46
concept10eric__, apt-cache search linux source02:47
eric__ty02:47
crimsunlinux-tree* includes linux-source*, concept1002:47
djm62xxcypherusxx: #spca50x on this server might also help you02:48
concept10eric__, sorry wrong one02:48
xxcypherusxxwow thanks02:48
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xxcypherusxxappreciate the help02:48
concept10eric__, you want to complile a kernel?02:48
eric__I'm just trying to learn debians naming conventions02:48
HablandocontigoHow do I conver a wav file to wma 64kbps?02:48
eric__concept10, I want to build a module against the tree02:48
Razor-Xi'll take a poll...02:48
Razor-Xwhat's the best terminal emulator?02:48
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djm62Razor-X: the one that fits your needs...02:49
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Razor-Xdjm62: which fits your needs, djm62?02:49
FlyingPenguin__does ubuntu not come with a smp kernel?02:49
zythFlyingPenguin__, do /exec -o uname -a02:49
crimsuneric__: all you need is linux-headers-$(uname -r), then02:50
crimsuneric__: no need for the entire source tree02:50
djm62Razor-X: I'm enjoying la dolce vita...default gnome-terminal is good enough for my lazy self ;) I am using zsh though02:50
concept10eric__, try apt-cache search linux-source instead02:50
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Razor-Xdjm62: heh, I have Konsole on here, and have used rxvt.... don't like rxvt one bit ;002:50
crimsunFlyingPenguin__: you can install one, but the default kernel is targeted to the lowest common denominator02:50
eric__cool02:50
Razor-X*:)02:50
Razor-Xstill default BASH here though02:51
Ahabhello02:51
crimsunFlyingPenguin__: for instance, you can just install linux-686-smp02:51
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concept10Anyone know where I might download some good fonts?02:51
crimsunFlyingPenguin__: (if you have a P2 or better)02:51
TokenBadanyone know why can't play wmv files on ubuntu?02:51
crimsunconcept10: do you have msttcorefonts from multiverse installed?02:51
FlyingPenguin__zyth: said no such command as /exec02:51
zythcrimsun, yep, I was just trying to get him to show what CPU he has so I could tell him if that was right.02:51
zythFlyingPenguin__, ok, just do uname -a in a terminal and show me the result02:51
FlyingPenguin__Linux Scott 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Jun 7 08:26:42 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux02:52
zythFlyingPenguin__, ok, and you have a Pentium 4?02:52
Razor-Xpretty sure he does, zyth02:52
concept10crimsun, I need more than that .. im looking for helvetica .02:52
zythFlyingPenguin__,  so in Synaptic get linux-i686-smp02:52
Razor-XI'm running Linux-686, awesome stuff that is02:52
FlyingPenguin__zyth, p4 3.0hypertheding02:53
zythyeah, then you want linux-i686-smp02:53
zythsame kernel I use02:53
zythgo grab it from synaptic02:53
crimsunkeep in mind that the ubuntu kernels have HT disabled by default for security reasons02:53
crazyhorsedamn. poor little me wans HT, too =)02:53
crazyhorse+t02:53
crimsunif you want to reenable HT, you need to read the changelog02:53
zythcrimsun, the SMP kernels have it disabled too now?02:54
zytheh *shrugs*02:54
FlyingPenguin__zyth, I serced for linux-i686-smp and nuthing came back02:54
crimsunzyth: you can't have HT without SMP02:54
Razor-XFlyingPenguin__: linux-686-smp02:54
zythcrimsun, I know :)02:54
HyperZidwhats the main diffrence between debian and ubuntu?02:54
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crimsunanyhow, back to the jazz festival02:55
zythcrimsun, I'm just all confused. whee.02:55
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starlaI've suddenly run into problems burning cds in hoary.  I burned one cd successfully, and now ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize when i put in a new blank cd.  can someone help?02:56
HyperZidbasicly.. I have 3 diffrent types of pc's I want to install debian/ubuntu on... 1. a server 2. my own desktop pc (want pretty new programs there) 3. my family's desktop pc.. they dont know a shit about linux.. and just want it to work..02:57
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crazyhorsestarla, use k3b or any cdrecord frontend.02:57
AhabI have a printer question.  What is the 'LPR printing system' and is it in Ubuntu to begin with?  My printer has linux drivers but it says that it needs the 'LPR printing system'?  Google didn't help me out at all.   http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/lpr_drivers.html  Thanks02:57
HablandocontigoIs there a legal way to encode to mp3?02:57
HyperZidwhat versions of debian/ubuntu should I choose for theese 3 profiles?02:57
crazyhorseahab, what's your printer?02:57
starlai tried using gnomebaker but the same thing happens.  It says 'please insert a blank cd' and then hangs until it crashes02:57
razHablandocontigo, doesn't windows media player do it..?02:57
crazyhorsestarla, yes i know, same bug here. cdrecord works.02:57
concept10HyperZid, you want a nice stable linux install use ubuntu...its way friendly02:57
razHablandocontigo, must be legal.02:58
concept10HyperZid, if you want a server you might want to use debian although you can use ubuntu for that purpose also02:58
Ahabbrother mfc-420cn02:58
x_orCan anyone tell me how to map my NIC to a specific device name, like eth1?02:58
chris_hhab...:  .use sound juicer02:58
FlyingPenguin__when I serch for mplayer nuthing comes up pleas help.02:58
HablandocontigoRaz well, I don't have Windows, my questions is then: is there a legal way to encode to mp3's on Linux?02:58
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concept10starla, that may be a problem with your burner02:59
HyperZidconcept10, ok.. so ubuntu is more user friendly?... but who gets packages updated first?02:59
starlaconcept10, i just successfully burned a cd a few seconds ago though.02:59
HyperZidconcept10, whats ubuntu's weak side's.. compeard to debian?03:00
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concept10HyperZid, ubuntu is a very polished linux distro for desktop everyday use.  As far as the packages Debian has more packages but all of the packages you might need are in Ubuntu's repositories03:00
starlais cdrecord just for audio cds? I'm having trouble understanding how to use it03:01
crazyhorsecdrecord is for everything03:01
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crazyhorsedon't use it directly, get a frontend for it03:01
zythHablandocontigo, the legality depends on where you live03:01
concept10HyperZid, there is no real downside compared to debian.  Debian has a larger developer community.  But some work on Ubuntu.03:01
starlaso... i tried opening it... oh. ok.  sorry, i'm pretty new to linux.03:02
FlyingPenguin__ok guys... when I serch for mplayer synaptic nuthing comes up pleas help03:02
crazyhorsek3b is very nice (although it requires all the kde libraries)03:02
zythHablandocontigo, oh you're in the US.  ick.03:02
zythNothing is legal!03:02
zyth;)03:02
concept10crazyhorse, you can use cdrecord from the command line03:02
FlyingPenguin__concept10: just my defalt installaction of ubuntu k3b worked...03:03
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Varangerhi!03:03
HyperZidconcept10, ok. thanks03:03
Razor-Xhsa a vi user ever switched to emacs?03:03
VarangerI have burned the Ubuntu ISO file...03:03
Hablandocontigozyth: yeah, cause OSes like Windows payed to be able to use mp3s?03:03
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zythRazor-X, BWAHAHAHAHA03:03
crazyhorseconcept10, sure you can, but the common user wants a frontend.03:03
Razor-Xzyth: XD03:03
zythHablandocontigo, yeah, or something, I don't know.03:03
Varangerhow can I check if it was well written?03:03
Varangeris there any command for it ?03:03
Razor-XI know it's posible, but has it _happened_?03:03
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caryhey bob203:04
zythRazor-X, not that I know of.03:04
zythprobably has some time though ;)03:04
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FlyingPenguin__ok guys... when I serch for mplayer synaptic nuthing comes up pleas help03:04
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zyth!restricted03:04
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:04
zythFlyingPenguin__, see that url03:04
ivanoxanyone could give me a tip of anything cool I can get for my desktop?03:04
HablandocontigoIs there a good non-prorietary format that is supported by Windows/Mac out of the box?03:04
ivanoxsomething cool*03:05
Varangerplease... is someone listening to me?03:05
Hablandocontigoproprietary*03:05
ivanox3 am here :/03:05
crazyhorseFlyingPenguin__, read http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9403:05
zythHablandocontigo, for compressed audio? :/ not really.03:05
chris_htry ogg03:05
chris_hnot out of the bx but close03:05
zythchris_h, he wanted 'supported out of the box on windows'03:05
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Razor-Xhere's my opinion of Gnome quoted straight from someone else03:05
zythyah03:05
Razor-X"...after many, many years of watching Gnome get worse and worse..."03:06
concept10Razor-X, youre posting that for .../03:06
concept10?03:06
Razor-Xno apparent reason, it seems03:06
ivanoxfor anyone using gnome ofc03:06
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ivanoxso tell me something cool I can use on my gnome desktop ^_^03:07
concept10post that in #desktop-manager-wars-and-bashing03:07
HablandocontigoWhat would mac and windows users have to do to use ogg?03:07
Razor-Xconcept10: why? then I can't try and convert n00bs early ;)03:07
Razor-XHablandocontigo: a lot03:07
crazyhorseHablandocontigo, recent winamp versions support ogg vorbis.03:07
Razor-XUT2k3 and 2k4 uses Ogg by default03:07
concept10Razor-X,   to kde?03:08
HablandocontigoWow, that's terrible.03:08
zythand there's a directshow filter for ogg for wmp03:08
Razor-Xconcept10: yes ;)03:08
zyth* #desktop-manager-wars-and-bashing :Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable03:08
zythaww :(03:08
concept10Razor-X, its best to have new users know they have a choice03:08
Razor-Xzyth: I gave up on Winamp. Good player, but subsequent versions became more and more memory hogging as computers got beefier.... only my computer didn't03:08
Varangeris there any way I can compare ISO files with CD burned with k3b ? dd ?03:08
Razor-Xconcept10: I know ,I know, i'm just joking03:09
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Razor-Xconcept10: I feel the same way about text editors, even if I have preference03:09
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eric__Is there a way to set laptop options in Ubuntu??03:09
Razor-Xit really gets me when people just reccomend nano, and forget about it03:09
ivanoxRazor-X, which text editor do u prefer then?03:10
Razor-Xivanox: vi, meself03:10
concept10Razor-X, .ogg is supported in windows and mac03:10
ivanoxvi is too hardcore for me, hehee03:10
Razor-Xconcept10: not by default in the former, IIRC03:10
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Razor-Xivanox: I was 11 when I first tried it... haven't looked back since03:10
Razor-Xhmmm, hold on, I need to clean my trackball03:11
ivanoxhow old are u now?03:11
Razor-X1503:11
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ivanoxok03:11
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cvogelHi everyone.03:11
crazyhorsehowdee03:11
Bisclaveretthe only media my computers could play was .mod until i was 14 or so back in 199703:11
ivanox:)03:12
cvogelI have a quick but dumb question03:12
cvogel:)03:12
Razor-XBisclaveret: I had a 486 till about 2 years back03:12
Razor-Xso, I was limited to MPGs03:12
Razor-Xand some .rm files03:12
Razor-Xcvogel: shoot03:12
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Bisclaveretrazor: i didn't touch anything faster than a 386dx-40 until 96-9703:12
Bisclaveretand nothing but dos 5.0-6.2203:12
crazyhorsewhen i was young i just had an ibm speeker =)03:13
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Bisclaveretit's a bit hard to run windows on a 21meg st-22503:13
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cvogelI just downloaded the linux-tree module from synaptic so that I could have a linux-2.6.... directory in my user/src directory.. the .bz2 file is there.. should I do anything special besides extract it?03:13
cvogelthat is to get it installed correctly03:13
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Razor-XBisclaveret: well, my dad introduced me to Windows 95 on a 486 in 96, got a 686 in '05, and only upgraded our RAM (from 8 MB to 40 MB) and our modem (from 14.4 k/s to 56.6 k/s)03:14
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crazyhorsejust tar xfj it03:14
concept10cvogel, are you trying to install a pre-compiled kernel or compile on yourself03:14
ironmchas anyone heard of a bug in XMMS in Ubuntu with Nvidia SoundStorm onboard sound03:14
cvogelI think a pre-compiled one.. just so that I can compile some source for installing a module03:15
crazyhorsearr..hoary and sound, never ending story :/03:15
Bisclaveretalright, obviously mounting the floppy drive like that isn't right.03:15
Bisclaveretwhat is the CORRECT procedure for mounting the floppy drive in ubuntu03:15
Razor-XBisclaveret: sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy03:16
ironmcI got the Music Player working but not xmms ... rats03:16
concept10cvogel, do you want to compile a kernel yourself, also what module?03:16
Bisclaveretbecause the disks are good, but nothing will write to them and the floppy formatter utility fails to write to track 003:16
BisclaveretRazor-X: i've done that 2-3 times now. same story03:16
cvogelit's for the newest madwifi drivers03:16
Razor-XBisclaveret: sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy -t auto03:16
cvogelI need to set my KERNELPATH .. but the directory I need isn't there yet03:16
crazyhorseironmc, the other music player works well?03:17
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cvogelso I was told to download that03:17
Bisclaveretmount: mount point /mnt/floppy does not exist03:17
Bisclavereti have.... nothing in /mnt03:17
Razor-XBisclaveret: ............03:18
Razor-Xthen mkdir it!03:18
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ivanoxplease, just give me a tip of some nice program for my gnome desktop, like watching networkload, harddisk space or whatever03:18
djsBisclaveret: Alternatively - Places -> Computer -> right click on "Floppy Drive"  -> Mount Volume03:18
Razor-XBisclavaret: mkdir /mnt/floppy03:18
Bisclaveretmount: you must specify the filesystem type03:18
concept10cvogel, why dont you just get the module - synaptic has the madwifi in the linux-restricted modules package03:18
crazyhorseivanox: tcpdump in gnome terminal? ;)03:18
ivanoxnooo =(03:19
cvogelthe most recent??03:19
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ivanoxmy desktop is so boring03:19
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Razor-XBisclaveret: sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy -t vfat03:19
cvogelwhich repository03:19
Bisclaveretmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,03:19
Bisclaveret       missing codepage or other error03:19
Bisclaveret       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try03:19
Bisclaveret       dmesg | tail  or so03:19
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Razor-Xhmmmm....03:20
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concept10cvogel,  I dont know about the most recent03:20
Razor-XBisclaveret: no wait!03:20
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Bisclavereteh?03:20
eric__how would I go about installing a package from source with apt-get and/or the GUI?03:20
cvogelI need the most recent one. .according to a forum03:20
Razor-XBisclaveret: dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/fd003:20
concept10cvogel, okay03:20
Bisclaveretalright03:21
Bisclaveretand what did that do ?03:21
breezygod dammit03:21
Razor-Xthis nulled the floppy03:21
breezywhy did people name a stupid version "breezy"03:21
Razor-Xnow try03:21
breezynow in xchat it always tunrs blue03:21
breezylike someone is mentioning my name03:21
Razor-Xmke2fs /dev/fd003:21
Bisclaveretsame problem03:21
breezywell the version isn't stupid03:21
breezybut you know what i mean03:21
Bisclaverethrm alright..03:22
Bisclaveretnow try mounting it again?03:22
Razor-Xivanox: I may convert to emacs ;)03:22
Razor-XMUAHAHAHAHA03:22
Razor-XBisclaveret: yeah03:22
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Bisclaveretsame problem03:22
ivanoxRazor-X, why not go gnome and gedit :P03:23
Razor-XBisclaveret: what's it say?03:23
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Razor-Xivanox: will never give up my CLI roots!03:23
Razor-XI used to be a Gnome person, actually03:23
Razor-Xbut, Gnome started getting worse.... and worse............ and worse.................. and worse03:23
Bisclaveretbisclaveret@Dragon:/mnt$ sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy -t vfat03:23
Bisclaveretmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,03:23
Bisclaveret       missing codepage or other error03:23
Razor-Xand, then I moved to the wonderful world of KDE03:23
Razor-Xstill, emacs seems a bit..... blocky03:23
ivanoxactually planning to switch to kde, but it's got alot of bugs in Fedora.03:24
Razor-XBisclaveret: of course03:24
ivanoxand that stupid "moving icons on desktop" bug...03:24
Razor-Xsudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy -t ext203:24
Razor-Xivanox: not a bug in Kubuntu03:24
Bisclaveretrazor: i need these disks to be able to be seen in wine and windows03:24
ivanoxkubuntu doesnt have the prob with moving desktop icons?03:25
Razor-XBisclaveret: but, I want to know if it's a floppy problem first03:25
Razor-Xdoes it mount now, Bisclaveret?03:25
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Bisclaveretrazor: it can't be a problem with the diskette. these diskettes format perfectly fine in msdos with no errror blocks03:26
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cvogelthanks for you help, though03:26
Razor-XBisclaveret: did it mount this time/03:26
Razor-X*?03:26
Razor-Xivanox: not a bit, no03:27
Razor-Xthe only thing I use Kate for on this box is as a good LaTeX IDE03:27
Bisclaveretyes03:27
Razor-XBisclavaret: sudo umount /dev/fd0  then mkfs.vfat /dev/fd0 then mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy -t vfat03:29
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msg43hello03:29
crazyhorsehi msg4303:29
msg43is it possible to search the packages apt-get has?03:29
Razor-Xmsg43: apt-cache search packagename03:29
crazyhorseapt-cache search or via synaptic03:29
msg43oh ok thanks03:29
msg43and how do I have script run at boot up03:29
Razor-Xwhere packagename is the package you are searching for ;)03:29
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Bisclaveretalright, that mounted03:30
Bisclaveretdoes this mean files on my floppy will be in /mnt/floppy?03:30
Razor-XBisclaveret: yeahp03:30
Razor-Xand now, the fs should be readable by Windows03:30
crazyhorsemsg43, have a look at /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh03:31
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Razor-XBisclaveret: the best formatting method for a floppy is "dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/fd0 & mkfs.vfat /dev/fd0"03:32
JAyRULEhow do i get flash enabled in firefox03:32
JAyRULE??03:32
Razor-XJAyRULE: not sure, wait around for a firefox user03:32
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JAyRULEoh...what do you use Razor-X?03:33
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JAyRULEu have Ubuntu installed right?03:33
AE86_Racercan someone give me a hand with an install issuse?03:33
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Razor-XJAyRULE: Opera03:33
JAyRULEahh03:34
Razor-XAE86_Racer: shoot03:34
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concept10JAyRULE, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla03:34
kram_hi guys, got a question for u, i installed breezy today (yes i read warning too late) and now i wnat to downgrade to hoary again, is it possible? pinning option in etc/apt/preferences doesnt work03:34
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AE86_Racerok03:34
Bisclaveretgrf03:35
AE86_RacerI have a Toshiba Satellite M45-S331 that Im trying to install Ubuntu on03:35
AE86_RacerOS: WinXP Professional 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build #2600) CPU: Intel Pentium M , 1.60 GHz Video: Generic Television on Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS,910GML Express Chipset Family (1280x800x32bpp 60Hz) Sound: SoundMAX Digital Audio Memory: Used: 436/504MB Uptime: 2h 2m 43s HD: [C:]  25.06/64.56 GB [T:]  3.27/5.86 GB Connection: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection - Intel Wireless Connection Agent Miniport @ 1.0 Mbps (R03:35
AE86_Racerthose are the specs03:35
BisclaveretRazor-X: i tried to do a sudo cp <file> /mnt/floppy03:35
AE86_Racernow after unloading everything from the CD and setting up grub03:35
Bisclaveretcp: writing `/mnt/floppy/disk1.exe': Input/output error03:35
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AE86_RacerI restart and let grub load Ubuntu03:35
Ghetek!seen kassetra03:35
ubotukassetra <~kassetra@c-67-171-201-213.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 2d 19h 59m 3s ago, saying: 'ds installs just fine, and both are runnign.'.03:35
kram_Bisclaveret: disk is faulty03:35
AE86_Racerand it locks up trying to load hotplug03:35
AE86_Racerany ideas?03:35
Razor-XBisclaveret: yeah, must be03:36
kram_try another flippy disk Bisclaveret03:36
Bisclaveretthey aren't03:36
Razor-XAE86_Racer: try Recovery mode03:36
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Bisclavereti just tried all disks in the box i just bought03:36
Razor-XBisclaveret: put it in DOS, and find out, they must've gone faulty03:36
kram_Bisclaveret: either they are all faulty or your floppy cables arent corectly attached, no other possibility i can think of03:37
BisclaveretRazor-X: they go faulty once i try to write anything to them in linux. when i reformat them in dos, they're perfectly fine03:37
AE86_Racerrazor:same result no dice03:37
kram_maybe tehy gonne loose03:37
AE86_Racerkeeps freezing trying to load hotplug03:37
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Razor-XAE86_Racer: have any USB devices attached?03:37
Bisclaveretbut when i try to write to them in linux, they get a general fault in dos again and i need to reformat03:37
AE86_Raceryeah a Microsoft USB optical mouse03:38
msg43crazyhorse, thanks you I will look been extremely busy help someone03:38
AE86_Racerit didnt have an issue when I installed onto an older system03:38
Razor-XAE86_Racer: try removing it, and restarting03:38
AE86_Raceryou mean trashing the partition and starting over?03:38
ivanoxanyone in here from the us? is gabby a male or female name!?03:38
Razor-XAE86_Racer: no, I mean, removing the Optical Mouse03:39
kram_can anybody help me downgrading vrom breezy to hoary again? is it even possible?03:39
Razor-Xivanox: female, generally03:39
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Razor-Xa nickname03:39
ivanoxok, thanks Razor-X03:39
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AE86_RacerRazor:same result03:40
spanglesontoastis it possible to switch over from a different sound module without restarting?03:40
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jbwivguys...trying to install libsdl1.2-dev on Hoary (to support qemu installation).  libsdl1.2-dev depends on xlibmesa-glu-dev_6.8.2-10_i386.deb, which supposedly is in the main apt repositories.  However, every repository I check is missing it, although if you search google for it it indicates it was indeed once there.  libsdl1.2-dev won't install without it....any idea what's going on?03:42
Razor-XAE86_Racer: hmmm............03:42
Razor-XAE86_Racer: not really sure then03:42
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Razor-Xjbwiv: the package is xlibmesa-glu-dev03:43
Razor-XIIRC03:43
jbwivRazor-X: yes...Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xlibmesa-glu-dev_6.8.2-10_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 03:43
jbwivE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?03:43
jbwivRazor-X: I get this from every repository I try...it's simply not there. :(03:44
paxonUgh, even gnomebaker works outta the box. Me <3 Ubuntu.03:44
Razor-Xjbwiv: you're pretty lost, I see ;)03:44
Razor-Xthe us.archive.ubuntu.com repositories have been down for ages now03:44
jbwivRazor-X: really?  What should I be pointing to, then?03:45
Razor-Xremove the "us." from all of 'em, and then run a "sudo aptitude update"03:45
jorgp2is there a gnupg 1.4.1 available for hoary?03:45
Razor-Xor, sudo apt-get update, if you want to use apt-get ;)03:45
Razor-Xjorgp2: there's gpg203:46
msg43are there any good guides on the learning linux and bash?03:47
jbwivRazor-X: hrmh....hang on.  thanks :)03:47
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jorgp2no  gnupg 1.4.1 is latest stable03:47
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paxonmsg43, I'm reading Running Linux (Oreilly).03:48
jbwivRazor-X: ugh.... Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xlibmesa-glu-dev_6.8.2-10_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 03:48
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transgressis msn borked for anyone else in gaim?03:49
msg43paxon, ok thank you03:49
kram_can anybody help me downgrading vrom breezy to hoary, or tell me if its even possible03:50
kram_read the downgrad frm hoary to warty, but that emthod isnt working anymore03:50
jbwivRazor-X: any idea?03:50
msg43how can I have a program start at login?03:51
kram_msg43: i assume u meaning under X? depends on your desktopmanager/window manager03:51
msg43kram_, yes gnome that runs gdm03:53
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kram_there is an autostart folder on my gnome desktop03:53
kram_but there is somehwere a start programs thingie03:53
kram_letme see03:53
msg43well what I want to do is x11vnc -passwd thepasswd03:53
kram_have to check on debian desktop since breezy fucked my X03:53
kram_under preferneces u got a session entry03:54
jbwivor anyone for that matter?  I'm thinking Hoary's repositories are a bit hosed.03:54
kram_under session there is a startup programs thingie03:54
paxonOpen up your GNOME menu, select Preferences followed by Sessions. Switch to the Startup programs tab03:54
kram_u can enter programms there03:54
msg43ok03:54
kram_can anybody tell me what that means03:55
kram_Jun 17 03:54:10 localhost kernel: mtrr: base(0xe8020000) is not aligned on a size(0x300000) boundary03:55
BisclaveretRazor-X: people in another channel are telling me i should have a /dev/fd0u144003:55
kram_x not working since breezy update03:55
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paxonAnyone knows a perl scripts for reading logs, like loco?03:56
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crazyhorsepaxon, don't know loco, what do you need?03:57
msg43paxon, can you read a perl script with cat?03:57
msg43I meant a log script03:57
paxoncrazyhorse, just colored easy on the eyes logs.03:58
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crazyhorsepaxon, any special log format?03:58
paxoncrazyhorse, syslog auth..03:58
paxonloco colors the logs as in tail - /var/log/syslog  | loco but not good enough04:00
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paxon-f*04:00
crazyhorsepaxon, i see, well i don't know any tool for that, but it should'nt be easy to write04:00
crazyhorsearr it SHOULD be04:00
paxontrue, but I'm too new to write even my name :/04:01
ivanoxu guys saw the explot for ultimate php board lol?04:01
ivanoxexploit*04:01
crazyhorsepaxon, lol04:01
phillipcanyone know if I can distribute my maildir over imap today with hula?04:01
crazyhorsepaxon, what's wrong with this loco thing?04:02
paxonnothing just needs some editing.04:02
crazyhorsepaxon, which?04:02
paxoncolor.04:03
paxonLike 'root' should be red 'user' white 'date' green ..etc nothing major.04:03
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paxoncrazyhorse, I gotcha an idea for a project ..eh?04:04
sophie_msumugo pistons go04:04
crazyhorsepaxon, copy /usr/bin/loco in your homedir and have a look04:04
paxonkent, thanks.04:05
crazyhorsethis should be easy enough to edit for you, search for the word palette04:05
paxonYeah I'll look at it.04:05
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starlaI'm still not able to solve my cd burning problems...04:06
dimgr_hello , is a mobility X600 ATI supported? anyone got it to work? i can get other ati cards to work but not this04:06
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kram_hmm04:09
kram_upgraded to breezy, seems it cnat find font path04:09
kram_any ideas?04:09
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Loki_VAhi people04:11
Loki_VAanyone having issues with gaim and msn?04:11
phoenixp3kAnyone using GAIM? noticing problems even after the update04:11
Loki_VAlol04:11
Loki_VAindeed04:11
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phoenixp3kwell guess we're all rushing on the problem04:11
Loki_VAmsn must be down or changin things04:11
phoenixp3kI doubt it04:12
phoenixp3ktryed e-messenger04:12
socommWhat exactly are you upgrading to for?04:12
phoenixp3kworking fine04:12
starlaI'm trying to use cdrtoaster to burn a data cd like someone here suggested I try.  But it doesn't seem to allow anything but iso and audio? how do I add files to the cd using cdrtoaster?04:12
socommI don't think there's anything extra  ordinarily new in breezy to merit the upgrade just yet.04:12
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phoenixp3kwell, not sure it fully works04:12
socommstarla: Have you tried K3B?04:12
phoenixp3kAnyone using GnomeBaker?04:13
starlano, not yet. it requires all the kde libraries and I figured I'd try this first.04:13
starlaI was trying to use gnomebaker too04:13
socommI'd suggest giving that application a shot since it's probably the best OSS cd creation app out there.04:13
starlabut it still won't recognize that I have a blank cd in the drive.04:13
zythsocomm, does it work without tweaks on gnome ubuntu?04:13
TokenBadis there a way to monitor inet traffic in ubuntu?04:14
starladoes anyone here know how to use cdrtoaster?04:14
starlaI know that must be a stupid question, but I'm really looking for some help figuring out what's wrong with my system04:14
starlaI'm a pretty new girl to linux... and I'm really stuck.04:15
Loki_VATokenBad, iptraf is a good terminal app04:15
transgressso does anyone have a suggestion for buying music in linux?04:15
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phoenixp3kGaim & MSN problem...04:15
TokenBadi type that in and says not found04:15
likkashotoh yeh04:15
likkashotI need help burning a cd04:15
phoenixp3kis this Microsoft trying to kick off alternate software...04:15
transgressphoenixp3k: yep... it's down04:15
likkashotubuntu says my computer is to slow to burn at these speeds04:16
Loki_VATokenBad, so download it04:16
socommtransgress: Just go out and buy regular albums.04:16
transgresssocomm: online... $10... store... $1704:16
transgresssocomm: stealing... free... but i can't find it for free... so i'm resorting to the next cheapest thing04:17
likkashotis there an alternate prog to burn iso04:17
Loki_VAk3b04:17
transgresslikkashot: what are you using?04:17
socommcdrecord04:17
transgressk3b then04:17
likkashotright click :)04:17
socommAnything else is just a front end for said utility.04:17
starlaCan someone help me? If I use gnomebaker, it does 'creating data disk image' and when it tries to actually burn it, it says I don't have a cd in the drive.04:17
Loki_VAor cdrecord thru term04:17
phoenixp3kUse http://webmessenger.msn.com/default.aspx?R=1 As an alternate04:17
AdyethsGnomeBaker is nice for burning cd's.04:17
zythAnyone else having MSN issues right now?04:18
likkashotcool04:18
starlawhen I use nautilus, it basically does the same thing04:18
transgressi think i'll just do w/o msn04:18
transgressi hate the messenger anyway04:18
likkashoti need to burn ubuntu 3204:18
starlaneither recognizes that I have a cd in the drive04:18
transgressi try to just use jabber04:18
socommMSN, hah noobs.04:18
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Loki_VAstarla, do normal cd's work thru ubuntu?04:18
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starlayes04:18
transgresssocomm: there is no place for that here.04:18
starlanormal cds work04:18
Loki_VAu sure ur burner is ok?04:19
transgresssocomm: this is a help channel... either help or STFU04:19
Loki_VAphysically that is04:19
likkashotshould be04:19
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starlayeah i'm sure it is ok. i just successfully burned a cd just before this happened04:19
likkashotif not im screwed04:19
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starlaand a few minutes ago, it randomly started burning the cd that i'd been trying to burn... as if it'd been lagging for half an hour04:19
Loki_VAsocomm, i use msn to talk to winblowz ppl, I've been using linux for like 8 years04:19
starlai went and watched part of stargate and came back and it was partway done.04:19
socommWell I'd suggest switching to different IM services, maybe one that's OSS or has open standards.04:20
socommJabber maybe?04:20
Loki_VAstarla, interesting.. perhaps a update is in order?04:20
likkashotwhere can I get gnomebaker04:20
starlamy system is up to date...  i update all the time04:20
likkashotim so new to this04:20
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transgresshence me saying i use jabber... but socomm... it goes like this... if you know people on a messenger that you need to talk to... you'll use that messenger.04:20
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Loki_VAstarla, no idea then, sry..04:21
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socommUmm, IM is really for the teenie bopper crowd. I find it alot easier to pickup the phone and talk it up with friends.04:21
starlahow can I work toward solving this?  are there error logs I can look at?04:21
starlacrash logs or something? that someone could look at and help me figure out what the problem is?04:21
transgresssocomm: opinions are like assholes... anyway... help channel... stick to helping or not talking.04:21
likkashot:)04:22
starlaI'm sorry I'm not a very smart linux user... this must seem really annoying04:22
Amaranthsocomm: It's the exact opposite here. I hate talking on the phone.04:22
likkashotgnomebaker?04:22
phoenixp3kAdyeths, can't manage to burn anything04:22
djslikkashot: sudo apt-get install gnomebaker04:22
transgressstarla: what kind of system do you have?04:22
socommAmaranth: If I must, the phone is the best tool for the job.04:22
transgressstarla: like your system specs04:22
Loki_VAstarla, maybe a dma issue04:22
starlacustom built system.  about 1ghz, 30gig hd04:22
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transgresshow much ram?04:22
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Razor-Xyou know, they need to have a Dvorak version of vi04:22
starlawhat does a 'dma issue' mean?04:23
starlawhat other specs do you want?04:23
transgressi'd like to use the Dvorak keyboard... but dear god... i don't care to learn to type again04:23
likkashotthanks djs04:23
transgressstarla: how much ram does it have?04:23
Amaranthsocomm: If it's a client or a short 1 minute phone call, sure. Otherwise I like IM because I can usually type faster than I can talk.04:23
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starla512mb ram04:23
TokenBadok someone has to know this04:23
Razor-Xtransgress: I never learned QWERTY, but had my own spatial style and could do a nice 90 WPM04:23
razpft, 90 wpm.04:23
TokenBadhow to set the permissions in nix so people can read write and make from a ftp04:24
Razor-Xso, it wasn't as hard to unlearn QWERTY as it is for most people04:24
razpeanuts.04:24
transgressi can usually pull around 100 on qwerty... lately i've been lagging behind though04:24
Razor-Xraz: I know04:24
Razor-Xnow I can type much faster ;)04:24
starlaok, here's what just happened: I let gnomebaker crash on its own, and a burn:///window popped up on its own.  I hit write to disc, and it appears to be working now... why would this happen?04:24
transgressi definitely don't want to unlearn qwerty04:24
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razRazor-X, just kidding.. eum.. hey, what do you recommand for an audio editor under linux!?04:24
transgressbecause i'd still like to be able to go to somewhere else and be able to use their keyboards04:24
transgressRazor-X: audacity maybe?04:24
Razor-Xraz: heh, I know ;) and I'ld say Azureus04:24
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Loki_VAstarla, type this in term, sudo hdparm -i /dev/insertdeviceforburnerhere and msg me the output04:24
Razor-Xerrr!04:24
Razor-XAudacity04:24
Razor-Xalways get the two confused04:25
transgressi was about to say wtf04:25
concept10Amaranth, did anything work out with config-services?04:25
likkashotthis ubuntu is nice04:25
transgressyes it is04:25
likkashoti love the support04:25
Amaranthconcept10: I haven't been able to use my computer.04:25
Amaranthconcept10: And I'm still not home.04:25
djslikkashot: np.  You can also use System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager04:25
likkashoti had a course on linux with fedora core 3 but its a little bit lost04:25
phoenixp3kNo support for the Gaim problem coalition?04:25
concept10Amaranth, oh - okay04:25
transgressthere has got to be a good way to buy music on linux... i mean we all aren't theives are we?04:25
Razor-Xtransgress: I know a lot of people who don't unlearn QWERTY04:26
transgressphoenixp3k: try #gaim?04:26
razphoenixp3k, #gaim04:26
concept10likkashot, where did you take that course04:26
phoenixp3ktrue :p04:26
Razor-Xtransgress: you sure? ;)04:26
Amaranthconcept10: I'm on a POS 133Mhz with 32MB of RAM running Windows ME with a 56k connection from Walmart. :)04:26
Razor-XAmaranth: XD04:26
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concept10Amaranth, gosh, where are you?04:26
transgressRazor-X: starting to doubt it... but there are a few things i can't find on bt to steal... so i'm resorting to the next cheapest thing04:26
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Razor-Xwow, can it get worse?04:26
zythAmaranth, serious?  THat's kinda awesome04:27
AmaranthRazor-X: The keyboard also sucks and the mouse is jumpy.04:27
Razor-Xtransgress: ahhh, that's when you go to your special connections ;)04:27
TokenBadtake it no one knows then...thanks04:27
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AmaranthTokenBad: 755 should be good for a dir, which is the default.04:27
Razor-XAmaranth: tell me it has QWERTY and a normal mouse and tat's enough ;)04:27
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transgressRazor-X: they don't have them either... i think i need more special connections04:27
TokenBadso chmod 755?04:27
Razor-Xtransgress: PM me what you're looking for04:27
AdyethsGnomeBaker is just a gui frontend to the command line apps for burning cd's.04:27
Adyethsprobably something in the settings.04:27
AdyethsI'm not really an expert on using it. I just know it works for me without much trouble on those rare occasions that I burn a cd. (which is very rare. heh.)04:27
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socommI prefer K3B since it accomodates all my pirating needs.04:28
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razRazor-X, damnit, why do you love GTK1 progs so much =\04:28
Razor-Xsocomm; mmmhmmm04:28
Razor-Xraz: I don't, I just reccomend them for you ;)04:28
socommK3B I <3 you.04:28
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AmaranthTokenBad: That's the default.04:28
jim_guys, is there a relatively easy way to change my desktop to use KDE? I'm using Ubuntu, which has Gnome by default04:28
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zythsocomm, Pirating? pfft, noob.04:28
socommjim_: Kubuntu, look it up.04:28
Amaranthjim_: Install the kubuntu-desktop package and restart.04:29
razRazor-X, heh.. well.. any non-GTK1 sound editors you recommand?..04:29
jim_socomm,04:29
jim_thanks04:29
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Razor-Xraz: well, Audacity is the best free one, in my experience04:29
Razor-Xand it's not GTK1.... is it?04:29
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Razor-Xit's all good with GTK-QT anywho ;)04:29
TokenBadAmaranth, then how come people still can't upload to the dir?04:29
razRazor-X, pretty sure it is.. i can recognise the ugly fonts.04:29
nJessoky04:29
nJessi have a weird problem04:29
AmaranthTokenBad: *shrug*, maybe it needs to be 77704:29
AmaranthTokenBad: I'm bad with permissions.04:29
nJessKDE and gnome have sorta mixed on my ubuntu04:30
TokenBadI tried at both04:30
nJesshttp://midnight-jester.csmn-ctd.net/screenshot.jpg04:30
razRazor-X, hm, what's that? antialiasing for gtk1?..04:30
transgressinstalling kubuntu-desktop broke stuff when i did that04:30
nJessthe KDE icon set is partially loaded04:30
AmaranthTokenBad: Then you have other problems. It can't be a permissions issue.04:30
transgressbut installing ubuntu-desktop from kubuntu worked fine... odd stuff04:30
Razor-Xtransgress: have you tried Gnutella?04:30
transgresseh nope04:30
Razor-Xraz: no, that makes GTK follow your QT theme04:30
socommnJess: Try using png, instead of jpg.04:31
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Razor-Xso it's all homologous for me04:31
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Razor-Xtransgress: try it04:31
transgressk04:31
nJesssocomm, why>04:31
nJess?04:31
Razor-XI can try Ares too, I have it setup in WINE04:31
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TokenBadwell it can't be router04:31
razRazor-X, same ugly fonts tho, right?..04:31
TokenBaddon't have one04:31
Razor-Xraz: nope04:31
likkashothmmm04:31
transgressokay phoenixp3k as best as i can tell... msn is just down... because my sister can't get on at all in windoze04:31
likkashotdidnt work with gnomebaker04:31
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socommnJess: jpg discards alot of data from your images original.04:31
nJesssocomm, it also allows for the smallest possible image sizes04:32
nJessand i have absurd upload speeds04:32
likkashoti wanted to burn at 75x hehehe04:32
socommhttp://samesoft.sourceforge.net/gnome.png04:32
nJessim aware of the virtues of png, but i can't upload them without a timeout04:32
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Razor-XPNG is t3h awesome04:33
TokenBadI do a little graphics04:33
TokenBadpost I deviant04:33
transgress75x?  do they even have burners for that speed?04:33
socommPNG accomodates all my pr0n needs.04:33
socommHmmmm, well maybe not. ^_^!04:33
transgressmpg accomodates mine04:33
razRazor-X, would you be talking about 'gtk2-engines-gtk-qt'? works for gtk1 too?04:33
Razor-Xraz: yeahp04:34
Razor-Xwell, it wouldn't look good on your desktop04:34
Razor-Xbecause you have a Gnome desktop04:34
Razor-Xmmmmm04:34
TokenBadI make my own desktops04:34
ac_so, i'm having some problems installing ubuntu 5.04 from the pressed cd on a relatively recent vintage pc04:34
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seth_kmmm, vintage04:34
ac_for some reason, i can't boot off the install cd, nor the live cd04:34
transgressac_: check your bios settings04:35
Razor-XTokenBad: I can draw stick figures!!!11!!!04:35
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ac_however, i have verified that i am able to boot off cd at all because i was able to boot off a windows cd04:35
Razor-Xok.... my stick figures come out bad too.... :\04:35
ac_(win2k)04:35
socomm\o/04:35
TokenBadI don't think my stuff is good either Razor-X04:35
IIIEarsac_ - Is your bios set up to boot from a CD?04:35
socommac_: Bad write perhaps?04:35
Razor-XTokenBad: I know 3rd graders who draw as well as I do04:35
Razor-Xand they aren't gifted04:35
razRazor-X, same ugly gtk1 fonts =/04:35
ac_so -- questions... primary master ide is a dvd drive, main hard drive is a 320 gb SATA drive04:35
Razor-Xraz: get a GTK theme, I think04:36
ac_are there limitations to grub or whatever ubuntu uses as a bootloader for booting with taht config?04:36
ac_IIIEars: yes, i have booted off a win2k cd04:36
TokenBadRazor-X, want to see one of my pics?04:36
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ac_socomm: waht do you mean by "bad write" ?04:36
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IIIEarsac_ - both the install and live CD don't boot it is likely your pc. - though if it is the CD check your CD write speed or run a md5sum check on the images.04:36
socommac_: I meant that perhaps you're cd burner just wrote a nice freesbie for you.04:37
ac_IIIEars: this is the pressed cd04:37
socommac_: Have you tried verifying if the CD is any good?04:37
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ac_socomm: yes, i was able to use the live cd and boot my laptop with it04:37
IIIEarsac_ - thats one variable eliminated.04:37
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NowOrNeverHello I'm trying to connect to an Airport wireless access point but it seems to require an ascii password and I simply don't know how to configure it under Ubuntu Hoary, any idea?04:37
ac_IIIEars: I also *just* booted and installed win2k from cd... about 10 minutes ago04:38
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Zodiachey guys04:38
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ZodiacMy DVD player (totem) is playing weird, like jumpy picture04:38
IIIEarsac_ - well i am stumped - (sheepish grin)04:38
Zodiacwhat can I do?04:38
varghow do I search with apt-get for packages already installed on my system?04:38
gm78Zodiac : encrypted DVD?04:38
ac_IIIEars, so am i... :/04:38
Zodiacumm04:38
Zodiacdunno04:39
gm78Zodiac : what dvd04:39
gm78?04:39
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ZodiacBloody Sunday04:39
likkashotcdrecord: WARNING: Drive returns wrong startsec (0)04:39
likkashot????04:39
ZodiacI already set the DMA to 1 I believe04:39
ac_is there a way to encourage ubuntu to start the install from windows?04:39
vargw/ apt-get or dpkg04:39
zythZodiac, DMA issue probably, turn DMA on for your drive04:39
zythoh04:39
vargac_: what?04:39
gm78Zodiac : never heard of it but am i correct that it is a movie?04:39
Razor-Xvarg: you can use aptitude04:39
ZodiacI think I may have done that...04:39
Zodiacyea it is a movie04:39
zyth!dma04:39
ubotudma is probably Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-)04:39
jim_socomm, it's asking me what the desired default display manager should be: gdm or kdm. Is KDM the one I want if I want the KDE display?04:39
gm78Zodiac : do you have libdvdcss installed?04:39
zythwhere do I turn on DMA...04:40
vargRazor-X ah thanks man04:40
likkashotcdrecord: The current problem looks like a buffer underrun.04:40
likkashotcdrecord: It looks like 'driveropts=burnfree' does not work for this drive.04:40
ZodiacI think I do... lemme check04:40
likkashotgrrr04:40
jim_or anyone else04:40
gm78Zodiac : it isnt available in synaptic...it has to be compiled it is incredibly easy to do tho04:40
socommjim_: They should work fine, but if you want the true KDE experience I'd suggest using KDM.04:40
jim_ok, thanks!04:40
IIIEarsac_ - all i can suggest is md5summing the disk. - unfortuneatly, a single read error (dust, fingerprint) will give you a bad number on an otherwise good CD.04:40
likkashotI realy dont want to go in winblows to burn this04:40
socommHowever, in my opinion GDM looks alot better.04:40
ZodiacI have it installed yes04:41
ac_varg: well, inserting the livecd in windows brings up some autorun stuff. i was wondering if the install cd has similar setup, where you can bootstrap your install from windows and then reboot and continue04:41
jim_great, what do I do now?04:41
jim_how can I refer back, if necessary?04:41
ZodiacI am also using TOTEM instead of Gstreamer04:41
Amaranthtotem uses gstreamer by default04:41
Amaranthyou mean you installed totem-xine?04:41
Zodiacha ha04:41
Zodiacyea04:41
Zodiacsorry04:41
socommtotem-xine is alot better.04:41
IIIEarsac_ - try a different machine if you have another.04:41
gm78Zodiac : I find the best media player...even tho it kind of stands out in Gnome...is Kaffeine, espescially for DVDs04:42
socommAt least in my experience it is.04:42
Amaranthgm78: vlc is great04:42
likkashotoh now its burning04:42
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ZodiacI remember someone telling me to add some code to the end of a file04:42
gm78Zodiac : that plus libdvdcss and it works awesome...even dvd menus04:42
IIIEarsHello Amaranth! :)04:42
Zodiacdoes that ring any bells for some people?04:42
ac_IIIEars -- so you've not heard of any limitations on install cd not liking the combination of booting off DVD and installing onto a SATA drive?04:42
gm78Amaranth : never tried it, is it really good?04:42
jim_How can I go back to Gnome?04:42
AmaranthIIIEars: Yep, I'm here pimping vlc again.04:42
Zodiachmmm04:42
Amaranthgm78: Yeah, it's great.04:42
IIIEars"" ((((VLC)))04:42
gm78Amaranth : does it support binary codecs from mplayerhq.hu?04:43
ZodiacKaffeine can work in Gnome?04:43
gm78Amaranth : and libdvdcss?04:43
IIIEarsac_ - SATA is very common isn't it?04:43
gm78Zodiac : any kde program can work in Gnome04:43
Amaranthgm78: Sure.04:43
ZodiacThis is weird...04:43
parabolizeI like gxine.04:43
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socommgm78: Provided you got all the libraries in place.04:43
ZodiacI mean it plays the darn DVD... it just seems like it is skipping frames04:43
gm78Zodiac : and vice versa....they just dont blend in very well since they use different toolkits (gtk vs qt)04:43
ac_IIIEars, erm I think SATA is prett popular these days04:43
jim_I got the following message. What do I do now?04:43
jim_Setting up kdm (3.4.0-0ubuntu18) ...04:44
jim_ * Reloading K Display Manager configuration...                          [fail] 04:44
jim_invoke-rc.d: initscript kdm, action "reload" failed.04:44
Amaranthgm78: I think libdvdcss came from the vlc project, actually.04:44
IIIEarsac_ - SCSI CDwas the older more difficult standard no?04:44
zythis turning DMA on my Hard disk a matter of just putting dma = on for /dev/hda in my hdparm.conf ?04:44
gm78Amaranth : which toolkit does it use?04:44
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Amaranthgm78: wxwidgets04:44
gm78Zodiac : do u need help setting up libdvdcss?04:44
ZodiacWell does anyone have any idears for totem-xine?04:44
Amaranthgm78: so GTK04:44
ZodiacI am not sure04:44
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rifficis gdm borked in breezy ?04:45
gm78Amaranth : hmmm....would probably work better than kaffeine...ill have to try it....does it support DVD menus?04:45
gm78lol, maybe i should just shut up and try it04:45
gm78:P04:45
riffici can't get a gnome session to load04:45
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rifficin .xsession-errors I get this04:45
sophie_msumuriffic: there is nothing working in breezy04:45
rifficcould not exec /etc/gdm/Xsession default04:45
Amaranthgm78: I've never tried.04:45
rifficsophie_msumu: informative.04:46
IIIEars<< - back from Monterey N. California. - Who is John Steinbeck? (grin)04:46
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likkashotIm runing ubuntu amd64 k8 is it a good idea to go back to the 3204:47
jim_socomm, I did what you said, but it doesn't seem to be working04:47
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gm78likkashot : why u wanna downgrade?04:47
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Zodiacahhh poop04:47
DaveyAmaranth: !04:48
likkashotcause im trying to install cedega and stuff04:48
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IIIEarslikkashot - Some have had good luck with the 64bit vers. - some haven't - I would look for "bob2" and ask him. He is very knowledeable.04:48
likkashotand I read theres not a big difference in both04:48
AmaranthDavey: hey04:48
Quest-MasterI'm getting choppy video output on VLC, GXine, Mplayer, and Ogle.. I don't think video output has anything to do with it either since I've tried every single video driver possible04:48
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DaveyAmaranth: hows it going? :)04:49
AmaranthDavey: ok, i guess04:49
DaveyAmaranth: Ubuntu is the first Linux distro I've used for more than 24hrs at a time :D04:49
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gm78Quest-Master : what kind of videos u trying to play?04:49
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IIIEarsQuest-Master - check your settings for buffering.04:49
DaveyAmaranth: and Smeg has played its part I'll tell you :D04:49
Quest-MasterDVD, gm7804:49
likkashotwell I have nothing on this comp so I dont mind trying04:49
jim_It appears kubuntu desktop is installed but how do I get it to change to KDE?04:49
AmaranthDavey: I try. :)04:49
likkashottakes about 20 min to install right04:49
DaveyQuest-Master: check the DMA settings on the drive, mine was off04:49
gm78Quest-Master : libdvdcss compiled and installed?04:49
rifficjim_: change your session in the gdm login screen04:49
Quest-Mastergm78: Yeah04:50
Quest-MasterDavey: Hmm, how to?04:50
ZodiacHow do you check the DMA settings?04:50
rifficclick session before you type in your username and password04:50
gm78Quest-Master : lol, do what davey says04:50
Amaranthjim_: If gdm is still the one starting, choose to start a KDE session.04:50
Quest-MasterIIIEars: Same, how to?04:50
DaveyQuest-Master: google it :)04:50
likkashotI cant even see my extra NIC card04:50
DaveyQuest-Master: +Ubuntu +DVD +DMA will find it :)04:50
jim_thanks guys, I'll try to figure out what you're saying (I'm jim_noob)04:50
Quest-MasterThought asking you would've been faster, but ok :)04:50
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likkashotdamn nforce 4 integrated stuff04:50
IIIEarsDMA settings? - give me a sec i think i have a note here (kinda new at this too)04:50
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rifficjust log out of gnome, jim_ and click on the session button when you log back in04:51
rifficits easy04:51
TC08how does one view quicktime04:51
Quest-Mastersudo hdparm -d /dev/hd[a-d]  <-- is this safe?04:51
Quest-MasterTC08: Mplayer-Plugin, also known as mozilla-mplayer04:51
IIIEarsI don't have the note on dma- doh! - sorry.....04:52
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jim_riffic, thanks.04:52
likkashotlater install time04:52
rifficQuest-Master: sort of but [a-d]  isn't supposed to be literal04:52
Quest-Masterriffic: Oh, ok04:52
Quest-MasterGot it then04:52
rifficit'd be /dev/hda or whatever your device is04:52
Quest-MasterAh04:52
Quest-MasterIt's turned off04:52
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rifficand to turn on dma, sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda04:52
riffichard disk, or cd rom drive?04:53
Quest-MasterWoot. Thanks.04:53
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rifficcool04:53
rifficyeah that should speed stuff up04:53
riffic=)04:53
rifficpio is a major bottleneck04:53
TC08where do I find mozilla-mplayer04:54
vzerowhere is the conf file of video card04:54
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rifficvzero: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf04:55
riffic=)04:55
Bisclaveretcould the reason i'm not able to get any sound, or write to my floppy, be because i somehow don't have permissions to these thigns from the setup? and if so, why don't i?04:55
rifficanyone know if gdm is broken in breezy and if it is, is there an easy fix?04:55
Quest-MasterTC08: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer04:55
rifficbecause it seems broken here04:55
jim_riffic, when I try to choose a session, the option appears to be "greyed" out04:55
rifficgrey? weird04:55
jim_it doesn't allow me to choose anything04:55
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rifficyou did install kubuntu-desktop?04:55
jim_ya04:56
jim_sudp apt-get blah blah04:56
Quest-MasterGDM is buggy as hell04:56
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Quest-MasterI use KDM, even though I only use Gnome :P04:56
jim_I used KDM04:56
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Quest-MasterWith GDM, it randomly worked04:56
mpmAnyone using fluxbox and has overcome a severe delay on startup?  (20 seconds)??04:56
TC08hey do I need to add any repos to apt for mozilla-mplayer?04:57
AmaranthTC08: Just universe.04:57
jim_Gaim won't sign on anymore.04:57
IIIEarsubotu DMA is ""DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DMA""04:58
ubotu...but dma is already something else...04:58
IIIEarsubotu DMA04:58
ubotuI guess dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-)04:58
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IIIEarsubotu DMA is also ""DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DMA""04:58
ubotuokay, IIIEars04:58
ac_so... the problem was that ubuntu wouldn't load off my DVD drive; replacing it with an older cdrom seems to fix the problem04:59
IIIEarsubotu DMA04:59
rifficgr, gonna try kdm instead and see if these xsession errors go away04:59
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lynxHow can I modify gnome menus size05:00
ac_of course, now it's stuck trying to load the ide-cd module05:00
Amaranthlynx: What do you mean?05:00
lynxhow can I modify gnome menu sizes05:00
lynxHave you seen windows start menu ? something like that05:01
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zythCan anyone tell me why totem-xine would be telling me it can't play dvd:// ?05:01
IIIEarslynx - the menu bar across the bottom can be a different size. Is that what you mean?05:01
lynxHave you seen windows start menus something like that05:01
AmaranthOh, yeah. You can't do that.05:02
IIIEarsAaranth - knows gnome :)05:02
zythhelp, I can't play my DVDs, and it's not due to lack of decss or anything..  :(05:02
lynxLet say that I wanna to add something like Ubuntu in the place that windows says windows 98 or windows nt05:03
zythoh wait05:03
zythgot it05:03
lynxDo you know what I am saying05:03
IIIEarsAmaranth is just getting warmed up. - lol05:03
Amaranthlynx: Yeah, not possible.05:03
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lynxWhy not05:04
socomm...05:04
socommhttp://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=86705:04
socommSTFW05:04
zythHow do i turn on DMA for my DVD drive?05:04
IIIEarsAmaranth - can you change the gnome "foot" icon?05:04
AmaranthIIIEars: That's beyond smeg. That would require source code patching of libwnck-applet05:04
AmaranthIIIEars: No, but you or a theme can.05:04
cthulfuego!smeg05:04
ubotuI guess smeg is a Gnome menu editor. Get it at at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/05:04
AmaranthIIIEars: gnome-main-menu-icon.png or something05:04
zyth!dma05:04
lynxi can change gnome foot icons05:04
IIIEarsAh - coo-ool - wide grin05:05
cthulfuegoubotu: goo'boy05:05
ubotuAww, thanks dad.05:05
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Amaranthubotu: goo'boy05:05
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Amaranthbleh, spam control05:05
djslol05:05
cthulfuego<heh>05:05
IIIEarslol05:06
lynxIIIIEars, would you like me to tell you how change gnome foot icon05:06
cthulfuegoAmaranth: Please +q yourself for spamming for 30 minutes.05:06
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IIIEarslynx - NP - i'll search for the png05:06
djs!dma05:06
lynxit is a simple png05:06
cthulfuegoNow then, i have a couple of chickens to roast05:06
lynxhtt://www.gnome-look.org05:07
IIIEars!gnome05:07
ubotuIIIEars: Wish i knew05:07
djsOK - ubotu IM's the response now05:07
IIIEars!theme05:07
ubotuIIIEars: I don't know05:07
cthulfuegodjs: it does if it's longer than a certain number of charcters.05:07
IIIEarsdjs - thats an improvement05:07
lynxSo it is not possible to change, modify and add gnome Application menu ?05:07
socomm!keywords05:07
ubotusocomm: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?05:07
IIIEarsyou can still "tell" someone no?05:07
djsty05:07
cthulfuegoIIIEars: yes05:08
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zythwwtf why will this movie not work right05:08
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cthulfuegoIIIEars: Also see !tell <foo> -about <bar>  (It won't echo the factoid to you if you use the -)05:08
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lynxOk guys I'll find the way how to create a new gnome menu interface05:09
Amaranthlynx: You can add and remove things from the menu, but you can't put 'Ubuntu' running down the side of the menu.05:09
lynxBut Why not05:09
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Amaranthlynx: Well, for one it's tacky and useless. :)05:09
socommAmaranth: You could on KDE. :^)05:09
lynxSuse 9.3 professional has Suse05:09
ac_so, is there a way during the install to prevent it from attempting to load the ide-cd module?05:09
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Amaranthlynx: That's KDE.05:10
IIIEarslynx - erm you "can" - it is open source. - (ducks the incomming trout)05:10
socommlynx: SuSE runs defaults to KDE, not GNOME.05:10
AmaranthKDE == We try to look like Windows and Fail It. :)05:10
cthulfuegoYou'd have to put 'kubuntu' then or the stasi would come and get you05:10
c_rodgehey i have no sound in ubuntu hoary05:10
Bisclaveretgnome reminds me of mac os 7.505:10
socommKDE == MS exiles.05:10
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Loki_VAkde bites05:10
lynxBut it is not the idea of doing that,  it is just that I want a menu like Longhorn on Gnome05:10
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socommGNOME == Macintosh rejects.05:10
cthulfuegoAmaranth: Well, interestingly my wife (mac user) far prfers KDE over Gnome. She says it works much more like MacOS does than Gnome.05:10
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c_rodgecan someone please help me, i have no sound, what so ever05:11
FLeiXiuSc_rodge: Are your mixers unmuted ? :-P05:11
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c_rodgeyeah05:11
IIIEarsuMS "Exiles" - nah forkmer subjagates - lol05:11
FLeiXiuSc_rodge: What sound card do you have05:11
lynxI wanna to build a menu so suchs longhorn on gnome05:11
c_rodgei can i figure that out05:11
FLeiXiuS... lmao.05:12
Amaranthlynx: Do you know C?05:12
zythIs it a bad idea to set dma = on for hda (hard disk), hdc (cdrom) and hdd (dvd-rom) in /etc/hdparm.conf?05:12
lynxa little05:12
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Amaranthzyth: It could cause some problems, that's why it's off by default.05:12
c_rodgehow can i figure out my sound card05:12
transgressdamn it all... someone edited my amd64 ndiswrapper wiki and screwed it up05:12
zythAmaranth, like what?05:12
c_rodgeive tried this but it was no help05:13
FLeiXiuSc_rodge: lspci -v05:13
socommAmaranth: A better question would be, "How badly do you want this menu?".05:13
Amaranthlynx: The only way you're going to get a menu like that is deep C/glib/GTK hacking.05:13
c_rodgehttp://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly05:13
Amaranth*sigh*05:13
AmaranthI hate trying to solve Ubuntu problems from a Windows computer.05:13
zythAmaranth, what kind of problems could it cause?  Basically, is it likely to actually be an issue for me?05:13
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lynxBut if I can build a menu like longhorn on gnome, microsoft will has declare in banckruptsy05:14
c_rodgewhen i run that to figure out my sound card the terminal just dissapears05:14
socommlynx: Haha.05:14
Amaranthzyth: I don't know, if you turned it on and can still boot (you made it turn on at every boot) then you're fine.05:14
zythoh ok :)05:14
AmaranthThat was a very subtle troll. Hmm...05:14
c_rodgehaving no sound is very frustrating05:15
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c_rodgecan someone please help me05:16
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c_rodgei have no sound05:16
Jmax1632hey05:16
transgressc_rodge: what card do you have?05:16
Jmax1632how does one use the extra "internet" keys on an HP keyboard?05:16
c_rodgehow can i figure that out05:16
Jmax1632under ubnuntu05:16
transgressJmax1632: go into keyboard shortcuts under system-preferences at the top05:16
razwhat do you ppl use to extract .rar archives?05:16
Jmax1632transgress: one second05:17
transgressraz: unrar05:17
glDaherI've used synaptic to get CpuFreq applet for gnome, but it doesn't work with the following error: The applet didn't manage to find CpuFreq support in the sysfs. You need your kernel to have built-in support for CpuFreq ...05:17
transgressraz: depending on the type of rar you might need unrar-nonfree05:17
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Jmax1632transgress: explain to nard please05:17
transgress.tar.bz2 so beats rar05:17
Jmax1632well duh05:17
transgressexplain to nard?05:17
Jmax1632yeah05:18
Jmax1632the keyboard thing05:18
Nardi have the problem05:18
Nardjmax is helping me05:18
Nardbut has no clue how to05:18
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Jmax1632heh05:18
Jmax1632i'm not much help :x05:18
c_rodgewhat do i run in the terminal to figure out my sound card05:18
Jmax1632c05:18
Jmax1632c_rodge: lspci05:18
Jmax1632try that05:18
transgressNard: do you see where it says System at the top of the screen?  Click that... then Preferences... THen Keyboard shortcuts... go to volume up, click it... push your volume up button... click volume down... blah blah blah05:18
FLeiXiuSNard: Accept his kindness to help, atleast he didn't ignore.05:18
Nardi know05:18
Nardhe is great05:18
Jmax1632:o05:19
Nardsweet05:19
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Nardgreat05:19
Nardthat worked perfect transgress05:19
transgressNard: heh yeah... i loved being able to do that.  even works with the volume wheel on my keyboard05:20
Nardyeah05:20
Nardi have the wheel too05:20
Nardi like it better then buttons05:20
Nard:D05:20
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transgressyeah i just feel smooth when i just slide it around to turn my volume off... i make a show of it when i have company05:21
transgressbecause i'm just cool like that05:21
Nardhaha05:21
transgressor a real loser... depending on how you look at things05:21
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Nardi would probably just think you are "different"05:21
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likkashotthat was fat05:22
likkashotfast05:22
likkashotanybody has a MSI k8t neo4 platinum board??05:23
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Nardwhat is that05:23
likkashotmotherboard05:23
Nardhmmm05:24
likkashotk8 no t05:24
zythhm05:24
brettI've got a question about having to manually enable the wireless connection at start up.  Anyone able to help out a bit?05:24
Nardwell i don't05:24
zythturning all DMA on made my HAL not be able to load05:24
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likkashotwell a nforce 4 ultra chipset?05:24
nate__brett, shoot, whats up?05:24
brettthx nate:  I've got a Linksys WMP54GS set up thru ndiswrapper.  All is well, except every time i boot, I have to manually enable it in the Network Configuration tool.05:25
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spiderwormhi all, is there a utility that will allow scripts to be written that simulate keyboard and mouse clicks for gnome, like they've got for osX?05:26
nate__I'd like to change my desktop so that it recognizes the bars asthe edges of the desktop.  You'll see what I mean here: http://www.clan-bd.com/nate/ss/Screenshot.png  and here  http://www.clan-bd.com/nate/ss/Screenshot.png05:26
Loki_VAzyth, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28805&page=2&pp=1005:27
Razor-XOMG, I may convert from vi to emacs *gasp*05:27
Razor-Xfirst Tsunamis... now... _this_!!!05:27
sproingiethat's like saying you're converting religions05:27
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Razor-Xno, worse05:27
Razor-Xthat's like... i'm converting bodies, or something05:27
nate__brett, what is the interface?05:27
zythLoki_VA, oh hey cool, thanks :D05:27
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Razor-Xbut emacs can't do ':wq" :(05:28
spiderwormRazor-X, to symbolize the conversion, should your name change?05:28
Razor-Xeven though 'w' and 'q' are miles apart....05:28
Razor-Xspiderworm: not a chance05:28
Razor-XI am The Razor-X05:28
sproingiectrl-x ctrl-c rules you05:28
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Razor-Xdon't know what that means yet ;)05:28
Razor-Xat this point, i'm still the ":qw" man05:29
Amaranthemacs causes RSI05:29
sproingieit's gonna be painful then05:29
Amaranthall those reaches for ctrl05:29
Razor-XAmaranth: it will for me05:29
sproingieyah, i'm a dyed in the wool emacs fan05:29
Razor-X'x' and 'c' are miles apart!05:29
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sproingiebut it's true, that ctrl key really wears down your left hand05:29
Amaranthmake caps lock a ctrl key05:29
Amaranththen it's in your home row05:30
sproingiei've started customizing keybindings to not use ctrl05:30
transgressjmax <3's kaeli05:30
Razor-XAmaranth: I might just buy a keyboard like that05:30
socommMust resist jokes about hand wear downs.05:30
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spiderwormdoes anybody know the answer to my question?05:30
socommMu.05:30
sproingiei refuse to remap my keyboard for just one app05:30
transgressfor anyone else that was wondering what that binary meant... it's <3 kaeli05:30
Razor-Xthe HHKL2 is one my list-of-keyboards-to-buy05:30
ChrisCFand what, put ctrl in completely the wrong place?05:30
Razor-Xsproingie: it's your text editor man!05:30
sproingietho i so hardly ever USE capslock that i may as well just make both of them ctrl05:30
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ChrisCFEveryone knows Ctrl goes in the corners :)05:30
Razor-XChrisCF: it belongs where Caps Lock is05:31
ialexeiHi, is every1 here using Linux ?05:31
Razor-Xonly, i'll have a damned hard time getting used to it05:31
jim_guys, what's the command again to reconfigure grub bootup?05:31
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Razor-Xialexei: no, but most are05:31
Razor-Xjim_: grub-update05:31
transgressialexei: no we are all in windoze05:31
ialexeicool =) Smart05:31
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likkashothihi05:31
ChrisCFIt doesn't.  Just a whole bunch of keyboards seemed to put it there by mistake05:31
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sproingiei do use capslick sometimes tho05:31
sproingieer ... capslock even more often05:31
Razor-XChrisCF: it was there originally05:32
Razor-XI used to not use Caps Lock at all, but since switching to Dvorak, it helps05:32
socommI'm using Hurd actually.05:32
tonyi just installed ubuntu on my laptop tonight, first time05:32
jim_Razor-X, I mean changes to the mailist1 or whatever that file is05:32
tonylovin it05:32
ChrisCFwell, I've seen it *not* there independently on some 5 different types of keyboard05:32
ialexeiThis is cool, Ubuntu is the coolest distro ever05:32
Razor-Xjim_: hmmm?05:32
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tonybut i have a wireless adapter question if anyone coudl help05:32
Razor-Xialexei, tony: glad you people think so05:32
sproingiei'd love to switch to dvorak ... i could get used to the letters being in different places.  but my muscle memory for emacs and vi both would never go away05:32
Razor-Xtony: shoot05:33
transgresstony: we can if you ask05:33
jim_like if I want to change the sequence of the default bootup05:33
ChrisCFincluding some very old keyboards05:33
zythLoki_VA, seems to have worked, how do I verify that my DMA is on?05:33
tonythanks...05:33
Razor-Xsproingie: I had to relearn vi, it was hard, real hard05:33
jim_from Ubuntu to Windows, for instance05:33
tonyok05:33
Razor-Xthey need to Dvorak-ize emacs and vi05:33
Razor-Xthey reall do05:33
Razor-X*really05:33
tonyi have a linksys wireless notebook adapter05:33
Loki_VAzyth, sudo hdparm /dev/devicefile05:33
sproingiethey won't05:33
tonyhow do i install and get it to work05:33
Razor-Xhell, if they have mice for lefthanders, then they should have emacs for Dvorakers05:33
socommjim_: Why would anyone want to put MS-Windows before Ubuntu? :^>05:33
Razor-Xmice suck as do lefthanders ;)05:33
sproingieactually it would drive me nuts to not have ctrl-x, ctrl-v, and ctrl-c in the same places05:33
ChrisCFand what exactly is wrong with Qwerty?05:34
zythLoki_VA, hm, using_dma is off for both my cdroms :/05:34
Razor-Xsproingie: they're miles apart on my keyboard05:34
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sproingiebasically i'd like dvorak for typing sentences, but for everything else i'd hate it05:34
jim_socomm, I knew that was coming.05:34
Razor-XChrisCF: can you tell me why some of the most useless keys ever are on your home row?05:34
ChrisCF100 years of typewriters, terminals, and home computers can't be wrong :)05:34
ialexeiThe only quirk I had with Ubuntu was I was looking for a services manager to be present deafult, ended up downloading bum and it was cool05:34
Razor-XChrisCF: oh yes they can05:34
Razor-XWindows is the standard05:34
AmaranthChrisCF: qwerty was created to make you type slower05:34
Razor-Xare you telling me Linux is wrong?05:34
tonyrazor-x, did you see my question?05:34
ChrisCFwhat, useless keys like A, S, D, F and Enter?05:35
Razor-Xtony: nope, sorry ;)05:35
tonylinksys wireless adapter05:35
Razor-XChrisCF: my home row on the other hand is A O E U05:35
tonyhow do i install and make it work?05:35
Razor-Xother-hand not meaning left05:35
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Razor-Xtony: read the Ubuntu wiki on WirelessHowto05:35
Nardok gys05:35
tonyok05:35
Razor-Xdon't remember the link offhand, sorry05:35
Nardi have another problem05:35
Nardi can't get any avi files to play05:35
jim_I want to change /boot/grub/menu.lst file05:35
Nardin totem they play05:35
Nardbut only noise05:35
ChrisCFRazor-X: but then that means you can't type "asdf" so quickly :o)05:36
Nardno picture05:36
Razor-XChrisCF: one hand has all the vowels on the home row, the other hand has the most used consonants and consonant pairs05:36
jim_could it be: sudo edit ...?05:36
ialexeiOK folks I have a question. I am a first time Ubuntu user. I noticed that Ubuntu is running the PostFix deamon as a service (starts at bootup). Why ?05:36
FR500Nard, did you just wake ur comp up from hibernation?05:36
Razor-Xthe second most used consonants, and punctuation is kept on the row above the home row, because it's easier to reach up than it is down05:36
Nardyes05:36
ialexeiWhy do I need this ?05:36
ChrisCFI'm a big fan of "transferrable skills"05:36
Razor-Xand then, the bottom row has the most useles keys05:36
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ChrisCFI'd rather use a layout at home that I know won't mean I have to adjust when I go to work05:36
Razor-Xlike 'j' and 'k' and 'x' and 'z'05:36
ChrisCFUseless?05:37
ChrisCFDon't you ever use "tar" then?05:37
sproingiei don't do home row anyway, so i'm less prone to rsi05:37
Razor-XChrisCF: odd the double-standard there, Linux is adjustable but Dvorak is not ;)05:37
ialexeiReposting -- OK folks I have a question. I am a first time Ubuntu user. I noticed that Ubuntu is running the PostFix deamon as a service (starts at bootup). Why ?05:37
ChrisCFeh?05:37
Razor-Xand, I sentence type a lot more than I tar ;)05:37
Razor-Xeasier to type in cat too ;)05:37
ChrisCFI don't see a double-standard05:37
Razor-Xall I need05:37
FR500Nard, try restarting xserver05:38
Razor-XLinux == non-standard not-at-work05:38
Razor-XDvorak == non-standard not-at-work05:38
Nardwhat would restarting xserver do FR50005:38
Razor-Xanyways, time for me to leave, as my mom wants me to leave, since i've been online too long05:38
FR500Nard, did they play well beforE?05:38
Razor-X*on the computer05:38
Nardno05:38
Nardi haven't got them to05:38
ChrisCFThe difference being that I don't need to readjust myself when I come to work at my own machines because I use Linux instead of Windows05:38
cthulfuegoialexei: So that mail can be processed.05:38
Nardi have had ubuntu for like a week05:38
FR500Nard, oh well, my vids wont play fine after wake up05:39
Nardhmmm05:39
ChrisCFParticularly if I use software at work that I can't use at home05:39
jim_does no one know how?05:39
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FR500you gotta read ubuntu wiki for restricted formats or google for ubuntu unnoficial guide05:39
Nardok05:39
ialexeiWhat do u mean mail can be processed. I use my ISP's mail server. Do u mean to say evolution needs the postfix service to read the mails from my ISP's smtp server ?05:39
ChrisCFwhereas if I were using two different keyboard layouts, I'd be pretty screwed if I tried to touch-type05:39
cthulfuegoialexei: No, but your local system sends mails to the root or other use about cron jobs that fail etc.05:40
ChrisCFMore importantly, I'm not going to switch to Dvorak when Qwerty works just fine05:40
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ChrisCFOn the other hand, Linux works, and Windows very often fails to work.05:41
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ialexeiAah, Is theer anything wrong if I disabled it. I dont like having that and the netkitinetd and the fetchmail05:41
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cthulfuegoialexei: Why?05:43
ialexeiFor now I have just disabled them, but I am interested in knowing if my system will crash or something if I disabled these05:43
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cthulfuegoialexei: No, but you would get errors logs about mail being disabled.05:43
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jim_Can someone help me please?05:43
ialexeiPostfix, I heard if its not configured properly spammers could relay spam thru ur machine05:43
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cthulfuegoialexei: It *is* configured properly.05:44
cthulfuegoialexei: Unless you changed the config...05:44
thr1cejim_, not if you don't ask the question05:44
jim_but thr1ce, I did.05:44
ialexeiThank you cthu..05:44
jim_I'd like to know how to edit the menu.lst file for grub05:44
ialexeiI did not chnage any setting05:45
jim_I need to know the command sequence.05:45
ooberhaxxorhow do i install xmms? it in in a .tar format05:45
cthulfuegoooberhaxxor: it's not. 'apt-get install xmms'05:45
jim_sudo edit /boot/grub/menu.lst didn't work05:45
thr1cesudo gedit05:45
ooberhaxxorcthulfuego, that is wat i type somewhere?05:45
ialexeiBtw, nice to note FreeNX works right out of the box =)05:45
jim_thr1ce, that's it!05:46
jim_gedit05:46
jim_thanks man05:46
thr1cesure thing05:46
ialexeiNo nxsetup ^$^%$05:46
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ialexeiAlso, do you know why I ned this netkit-inetd (says internet superserver') ???05:47
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cthulfuegoooberhaxxor: Start 'synaptic', find 'xmms', install it.05:47
cthulfuegoialexei: /usr/share/doc/netkit-inetd05:48
cthulfuegoialexei: All pckages have docs. read them.05:48
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ooberhaxxorsays i must run it as root user05:48
ialexeiok, will do cthu..Sorry abt these silly questions, its just that I am excited to see a distro that I think can replace the crappy OS on my home PCs05:49
cthulfuegoialexei: <heh>05:49
ialexeiYeaah baby, No more %$$%^& microsoft tax05:50
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FR500wow monodevelop rox05:50
cthulfuegoialexei: Just keep in mind most stuff is installed for a good reason, even if the reason may not be immediately obvious. Apart from all that python shit, Ubuntu has fairly sane defaults.05:50
KrakensDencthulfuego, python shit?05:50
paxonis gparted any good?05:50
cthulfuegoKrakensDen: python shit05:50
ooberhaxxorcthulfuego, thanks i got it05:51
FR500paxon, parted is better :)05:51
KrakensDenpaxon, probably, parted is :)05:51
FR500paxon, but gparted does the job05:51
paxonFR500, KragenSitaker check.05:51
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ooberhaxxorthe first hours of using linus is kind of confusing :P05:51
cthulfuegoapt-cache search python-* | wc -l  -> 808  -> python shit05:51
parabolizemy first YEAR was confusing ;)05:52
thr1cetry starting on slackware05:52
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KrakensDenthr1ce, that is, oddly enough, very good advice05:52
cthulfuegoTry starting on Slack 3 with floppies and a remote NFS server.05:52
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KrakensDenthr1ce, though actually, I would recommend Debian stable05:53
thr1ceKrakensDen, i knwo; ran it for a year and a half05:53
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KrakensDenthr1ce, woody, preferably05:53
thr1ceKrakensDen, you'll learn more linux on slack05:53
KrakensDenthr1ce, installer from hell and all :)05:53
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KrakensDenthr1ce, I started with woody, then used Slack for two years05:53
thr1ceKrakensDen, try installing crux05:53
cthulfuegoHow is the woody installer an installer from hell?05:53
cthulfuegothe *only* hard bit if the reading you need to do.05:54
ialexeicthu..Sorry another silly q. I wanted to add 'bum' (the services manager) to the system menu. How do i do taht ?05:54
KrakensDenit's far too verbose05:54
KrakensDenwell05:54
cthulfuegoialexei: 'sudo apt-get install bum'05:54
thr1cecrux is all text05:54
ialexeiI have the pacakge installed05:54
KrakensDenit was my first experience with linux05:54
KrakensDenso it was far too verbose :P05:54
thr1ceyou chroot into kernel source and compile your own, write your own configs05:54
ialexeiBut I dont get the icon05:54
parabolize"The best way to learn is LFS" but I want to use my computer the first year.05:54
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KrakensDenit took me two tries, but I got it installed05:54
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thr1cecrux is the saem way05:54
ialexeiI wud like to have an icon on system men u05:54
TokenBadanyone know how to get wmv to play on ubuntu?05:55
ialexeiI can run bum , but its just that it wud be nice if I could have it run from the system menu05:55
KrakensDenyou probably need to download the win32 codecs05:55
cthulfuegoI don't even want to think about how much power is wasted on compile-from-scratch distros that ALL run with the EXACT same setup.05:55
cthulfuego!restricted05:55
ubotuI guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats05:55
KrakensDencthulfuego, it's a crime05:55
robitailleTokenBad,    totem with win32 codecs05:55
TokenBadI installed the win32 codecs05:55
cthulfuegogentoo kills trees05:55
fivrehey, if I have "/dev/hda2       /media/windows  vfat    umask=000       0       005:55
TokenBadand it will not play it05:55
paxonI plenty of ram and set 2gb to swap when I installed. Can I reduce swap, or is it wise to just leave things alone?05:56
paxonhave*05:56
thr1cefivre, looks good05:56
thr1cemight want rw,umask=00005:56
TokenBadwill not play any wmv yet05:56
cthulfuegopaxon: Just moutn half the swap as /tmp or something via tmpfs.05:56
fivreI did it as per the ubuntu guide05:56
paxoncthulfuego, thanks.05:56
thr1cefivre, I do vfat    rw,umask=00005:56
fivrebut it appears to be instructions for a logical partition05:56
thr1ceand do 1   005:56
thr1ceat the end05:56
robitailleTokenBad,  have you installed "totem-xine"?  Sometimes it makes totem play more things.05:57
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cthulfuegothr1ce: No, "0 0" at the end05:57
TokenBadno05:57
TokenBadwhat is totem-xine?05:57
thr1cefor logical?05:57
thr1ceno05:57
fivrewhat is it for extended FAT partition?05:57
thr1cei have always used 1   005:57
robitailleTokenBad,  totem-xine tells totem to use the xine library for playbacks.   Sometimes it works better.05:59
TokenBadyeah05:59
TokenBadit seems to work now05:59
TokenBadbut another question05:59
TokenBadwhat plugins would be needed to play wmv in mozilla?06:00
fivrechanging it to 1   0 gets the same error06:00
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thr1cefivre, yes this line06:00
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robitailleTokenBad, I personally don't use plugins for that.  If you click on the link, it should ask you which application to use to pplay the wmv, then you select totem as a stand-alone.06:01
fivrewhich?06:01
thr1ce/dev/hda2       /media/windows          vfat    rw,umask=000    1       006:01
fivreah06:01
TokenBadit don't do that..it trys to load it into a html page06:01
TokenBadlike streaming06:01
phillipcanyone know if I can distribute my maildir over imap today with hula?06:01
thr1cefivre, work?06:02
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fivrenope, still same error06:02
Ahmuckwith the live cd, everything is in memory ?06:02
thr1cewhat error?06:02
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thr1cefivre, what error are you recieving?06:03
fivrehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/10206:03
kcburyshakerhello?06:03
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fivrethat one^06:03
thr1cetype mount06:04
djsAhmuck: Yes.06:04
kcburyshakeri just installed ubuntu and would like a little help06:04
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thr1cewhat does the /dev/hda2 say06:04
kcburyshakerthis is my first dive into linux06:04
Twitchcould ne1 help me get 3D acceleration from my voodoo2? I'm raelly quite lost06:04
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fivreyou mean the line after it in /etc/fstab ?06:04
thr1ceno, are you sure it's a Fat32 partition?06:05
fivreyep06:05
TokenBadrobitaille, I got it working..did apt-get install mplayerplug-in06:05
TokenBadand its working now06:06
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fivre /dev/hda2             746        2434    13566892+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)06:06
Ahmuckdjs, nothing is written to disk ... so possible to boot with any disc at all, just mobo, mem, and proc ?06:06
Ahmuckwithout06:06
Twitchcan ne1 help me with installing my voodoo2 card?06:06
fivreunless Win95 Extended isn't FAT3206:06
djsAhmuck:  Yes.  You could run it on a diskless workstation.06:07
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Ahmuckthis is awesome !06:07
refuze2loozeanybody know a program that can show me the CRCs of the contents of a ZIP file?06:07
fivreso, why isn't hda2 mounting?06:08
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likkashotanybody has a page on installing cedega06:10
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learn25hi all!06:11
likkashothi06:11
Ahmuckwell, actually to boot from a cd one would not be diskless06:11
learn25anybody can help me setup dhcp on my eth0? i have two NIC eth0 and eth106:11
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likkashotlucky you06:12
learn25i already downloaded dhcp3-server06:12
likkashotcant see my eth106:12
djsAhmuck: OK.  HDD-less :)06:12
learn25anybody can help me setup dhcp on my eth0? i have two NIC eth0 and eth106:13
learn25i already downloaded dhcp3-server06:13
likkashotu want to be a dhcp server06:13
likkashot?06:13
learn25yes06:13
brettI need some help automatically setting my default gateway at boot.06:13
jbroomethere's lots of webdocs on that if you can't find someone here to help06:13
learn25and also to share my internet from eth1 to eth006:13
jbroomenow you're getting into some iptables stuff06:14
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learn25maybe. i'm new to linux. Unlike windows XP u just enable internet sharing and dhcp.06:14
djsbrett: There is a setting in System -> Administration -> Networking.  Does that work?06:15
Twitchis there anyone in here that would be able to help me set up my voodoo 2 i would really appreciate the help06:15
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likkashotI learned it on fedora 306:16
likkashotneeded to edit the dhcpd file06:16
learn25how?06:16
learn25and what will be the settings06:16
learn25?06:16
likkashotu know anything about dhcp06:16
jbroomelearn25: have you tried searching for dhcpd docs at all?06:16
learn25nope06:17
likkashottheres always a template file to copy from06:17
likkashotyou need to configure scopes etc06:17
learn25but i can edit any conf file. i know how to use gedit06:17
likkashotif we were I week later I could help you06:18
likkashotI installed this 15 min ago06:18
likkashotand im trying to get mine running06:18
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likkashotthis=ubuntu06:18
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fivrehey, If I've mounted a logical partition, how do I access the exteded partitions within it?06:19
learn25any website/url that can help me about linux/ubuntu dhcp and internet connection sharing?06:19
likkashotjust a sec06:20
jbroomehttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=internet+connection+sharing+linux&btnG=Search06:20
jbroomehttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dhcpd+linux&btnG=Google+Search06:20
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likkashothttp://ubuntuguide.org/#generalnotes06:20
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likkashotoh I rebember that stuff now06:21
likkashotoh what fun06:21
learn25i tried ubuntuguide.org dhcp server setup but failed to start.06:21
likkashotwas final project in class :)06:21
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likkashotits manual06:22
kakaltohow can I benchmark hdd speeds on a fat32 filesystem?06:22
kakaltoapparently hdparm isn't a good tool for benchmarking06:22
likkashotu need to edit the file then restart the service06:22
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kcburyshakerhello06:24
kcburyshakerim having a prob getting java installed   what do i need to do06:24
kcburyshakerim brand new to ubuntu06:24
djs!ubuntuguide06:25
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is a helpful guide for new users located at http://ubuntuguide.org06:25
kcburyshakerok06:25
nalioth_zZzZzZzZkcburyshaker: better to use the instructions at ubuntulinux.org/wiki/06:25
kcburyshakerok06:25
nalioth_zZzZzZzZubuntuguide is not always accurate06:25
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kakaltoanyone?06:26
djsnalioth_zZzZzZzZ: typing in your sleep? :)06:26
likkashotnalioth is that concerning nvidia drivers06:26
nalioth_zZzZzZzZdjs: yes, sleeptyping is common among nerds06:26
likkashotcause I coudnt do everything they say06:26
djslol06:26
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nalioth_zZzZzZzZlikkashot: i've found more often than not, the ubuntuguide doesnt work. (confirmed by the numbers of peeps in here complaining about it)06:27
likkashotok cool06:27
likkashotill use the other page then06:27
djsnalioth_zZzZzZzZ: understood.  I'll stop referring to it then.06:27
brettI've had pretty good luck with the few things I've pulled from ubuntuguide...06:28
djsAs have I.  I've also admired it as a very succinct piece of documentation.06:29
nalioth_zZzZzZzZdjs: there is SOME good info there, just not enough for me (personally) to recommend it06:30
levandernalioth_zZzZzZzZ: it didn't work for you? or just for other people who may very well have been clueless? i've never had problem with that guide personally06:30
poningruguys any way I can test the sound input06:30
poningruI am trying to use a mic06:31
poningrubut it is not working06:31
likkashotman I dont know where to find stuff on that page :(06:31
likkashotthink im to tired06:32
nalioth_zZzZzZzZlevander: most of the stuff on installing found at ubuntuguide is useless for ppc and amd64 users06:32
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levandernalioth_zZzZzZzZ: maybe, i wouldn't know, i use x8606:32
likkashotwheres the nvidia stuff06:32
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r0dwhat program can make .iso's from cd's06:32
nalioth_zZzZzZzZlevander: correct, but ubuntu has many other arches available06:32
inc595crossover office rox06:33
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nalioth_zZzZzZzZlikkashot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java06:33
nalioth_zZzZzZzZwoops06:34
nalioth_zZzZzZzZi'm tired too06:34
likkashot?06:35
djslikkashot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:35
likkashotahh06:36
nalioth_zZzZzZzZdjs: thx06:36
djsnp :)06:36
djs!nvidia06:36
ubotunvidia is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto06:36
djs!ati06:37
ubotudjs: I give up, what is it?06:37
nalioth_zZzZzZzZ!java06:37
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, nalioth_zZzZzZzZ06:37
djsubotu: ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:37
ubotuokay, djs06:37
nalioth_zZzZzZzZ!Java06:37
ubotunalioth_zZzZzZzZ: I give up, what is it?06:37
djs!ati06:37
nalioth_zZzZzZzZubotu: java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java06:37
ubotunalioth_zZzZzZzZ: okay06:37
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nalioth_zZzZzZzZubotu: Java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java06:37
ubotui already had it that way, nalioth_zZzZzZzZ06:38
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djsubotu: So you're case sensitive eh.06:38
ubotudjs: I don't know, could you explain it?06:38
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nalioth_zZzZzZzZif the bot answered correctly, the dumb box of silicon would answer up when !restricted was put into chan06:38
kakalto!nvidia06:39
ubotu[nvidia]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto06:39
likkashotE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)06:39
likkashothmm06:39
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nalioth_zZzZzZzZ!java06:40
ubotusomebody said java was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java06:40
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levanderanybody has tried prelinking their system? i looked at it, scares the hell outta me, talking about breaking the package manager....06:42
poningrucan someone help?06:42
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poningruproblem with my mic06:42
poningruwont record06:42
nemikgood evening everyone!06:42
nalioth_zZzZzZzZlevander: prelinking is what exactly? i'm ready for a horror story06:43
djsponingru: One trap I'm aware of is that the input volume for the Microphone is set at minimum by default.  Have you checked that?06:45
poningruhmm how do you change that?06:45
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djs(Gnome Menu) Applications -> Sound & Video -> Volume Control -> File -> Change Device -> Alsa Mixer -> Capture06:47
DanielCQuestion: Where can I configure GDM? I want to set it to auto-login.06:47
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djsDanielC: (Gnome Menu) -> System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup06:48
likkashotany of u have a page to optimize my vid card06:48
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parabolizelikkashot: use coolbits06:49
DanielCdjs: Thanks. I can't believe I didn't see it.06:49
likkashotyers but how06:49
djsnp :)06:49
likkashotwitch file i hva to mod06:49
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parabolizedo you have the nvidia 7664 driver installed?06:49
fivreIs there any way for me to map Ctrl+T to my central mouse button?06:49
likkashotwhats the command to see wich I have06:50
parabolizenvidia-settings06:50
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likkashotok06:51
likkashot1.0-717406:51
parabolizeyou need 7664 to use coolbits06:52
likkashotwhere from06:52
likkashotthe nvidia site>?06:52
parabolizehttp://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7664.html06:52
parabolizeyes06:52
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likkashotand they are ok and all06:53
parabolizeread the readme for how to install the driver and use coolbits.06:53
r0dwhat program can i use to  make .iso's from cd's06:54
nalioth_zZzZzZzZr0d try gnomebaker, graveman or k3b06:54
r0dthx06:55
parabolizelikkashot: be warned, you will need to reinstall the driver ever time you update the kernel.06:55
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parabolizeI say gnomebaker06:55
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xquizitHi, i'm having trouble making a MySQL database for coppermine. When I use mysqlcc to make a new database I keep getting "ERROR 1045: Access denied for user..."06:56
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likkashothey should I install the drivers in init 3?06:59
xquizitlikkashot, yeah install in init306:59
likkashotok07:00
parabolizejust hit ctrl+alt=f107:00
parabolizesudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop07:00
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xquizitso anyone know how to make a mysql database?07:01
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smotthow do i tell the ubuntu install cd to boot off hda5? linux root=/dev/hda5?07:01
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likkashotgot no cc or gcc07:03
likkashotand no matching kernel07:03
zythlikkashot, apt-get install gcc ?07:03
parabolizelikkashot hold on07:03
likkashotthis is going great  heheh07:03
xquizitlikkashot, apt-get install build-essential07:04
parabolizeand your kernel headers07:04
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fivrecan I set a command to a timer?07:04
likkashotok done07:05
fivreSo that I could poff around 2:30?07:05
parabolizelikkashot: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=197594&postcount=1507:05
parabolizeread that07:05
djsfivre: Have a look at the "at" command07:06
wolverianor crontab07:06
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xquizitanyone here know how to use copperming?07:10
fivreooh07:10
zythooh07:10
zyththat was painful07:10
fivrepretty netsplit07:10
evilgod69xquizit: i think those questions might be more appropriate for a mysql channel07:11
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zythyay I am getting Neverwinter Nights tommorow07:11
xquizitevilgod69, ok07:11
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paxonanyone using lexmark 1150 printer?07:12
ac_so, i'm having problems installing off the cd -- i'm failing at the base-install stage because it can't read a package off the disc. is there any way to change it to a network install?07:12
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ac_it did detect my network correctly, and i was able to get an IP address via dhcp07:13
ac_ifconfig shows that eth0 seems to be working07:13
fivreLions and Tigers and 22 seconds of lag OH MY!07:14
jorgp2is upgrading to breezy stable yet?07:17
bob2no07:17
jorgp2or stable enough to use07:17
fivrewhat is the syntax of the at command07:18
fivre?07:18
jorgp2what is the biggest instabilities?07:18
parabolizejorgp2: the #ubuntu topic has not changed. ;) I haven't tried it but just from reading its not a good idea.07:19
jorgp2man at07:19
ac_can someone give me the md5sum for libssl0.9.7mumble for the 5.04 install?07:19
jorgp2yeah I seen the topic07:19
ac_i don't know why my install claims that the file is corrupt07:20
bob2it's not unstable in a crashy sense07:20
bob2it's just changing a lot07:20
bob2and things will break07:20
bob2ac_: you can find that yourself. apt-cache show libssl0.9.7blah.07:20
jorgp2any different then debian sid?07:20
bob2yes, more broken07:21
ac_bob2: i am in the middle of trying to install, and it is complaining that the deb is corrupt on my cdrom07:22
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ac_i want to verify that it actually is....07:22
bob2ac_: then run the "verify cd" step of the install07:22
bob2or check the md5sum of the whole cd07:22
bob2etc07:22
SlompHi. I don't understand why anyone likes Ubuntu. I checked it out, and it's like exactly the same as ten other GUI Linux's. What's the catch?07:22
bob2wow, what a charming attitude07:22
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bob2if you don't understand, continue using whatever you like07:22
parabolizeSlomp: lots of distros use gnome. ;)07:23
SlompPlease explain what's cool about this. Ubuntu seems to be the biggest Linux distro right now.. People are all buzzing about it. but I downloaded it and it's... uh, just the same as the others. I don't understand, guys. Please explain to me.07:23
ac_bob2: well, "verify cd" is failing on my, but this is a pressed copy of ubuntu; not something i burned myself...07:23
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poningruSlomp: because of hardware detection07:23
bob2Slomp: if you don't see what's special, that's fine; use whatever you want07:23
bob2this isn't an advocacy channel, tho07:24
SlompFedora detected all my hardware.. What's better about Ubuntu's hw detection?07:24
poningrualso the configuration stuff is much easier07:24
bob2ac_: that sucks, but it does mean the cd (or drive, I guess) is screwed07:24
parabolizeSlomp: its a up to date debian that doesn't crash.07:24
Lafitte-Slomp,  fedora didnt do mine but ubuntu did07:24
poningruheh just because yours was detected doesnt mean jack07:24
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SlompWhat's wrong with just plain Debian?07:24
HrdwrBoBparabolize: debian doesn't crash either07:24
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bob2nothing's wrong with Debian07:25
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kestasour slogan is 'if you use another linux youre not human'07:25
parabolizesid crashs and burns...07:25
poningruhave you tried the dev07:25
kestasor something to that effect07:25
bob2parabolize: no, it doesn't07:25
HrdwrBoBSlomp: lots of politics, the other ports hold it back, it's quite slow on some packages07:25
HrdwrBoBetc etc07:25
JohnnyRottenhow do you change the font size for the menu where it says applications places systems and time07:25
Lafitte-Slomp,  what is your mission here ?07:25
fivreok, I keep getting the "Garbled Time" message from at07:25
poningruyeah maybe I should stop feeding the troll07:25
bob2yeah07:25
HrdwrBoBfivre: how are you usingit07:26
djsac_: from earlier it sounds like you've got a partial install though.  With networking.  Correct?07:26
HrdwrBoBfivre: it's in 24hr time07:26
HrdwrBoBeg: 5:30 am07:26
SlompDoes it use the hardware detection from Gnoppix?07:26
HrdwrBoB053007:26
bob2Slomp: no07:26
fivre[1]  <djs> ac_: from earlier it sounds like you've got a partial install though.  With networking.  Correct?07:26
fivreweird07:26
SlompWhere did the hw detection come from?07:26
bob2Slomp: except in the sense that modern gnoppix is ubuntu07:26
fivreat poff 12:30am07:26
ac_djs: well, at various times,i've been able to make  as far as attempting to install the base-system, where it then pukes on libssl07:26
ac_djs: a quick google shows that you can't do a network install of ubuntu07:27
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JohnnyRottendoes anyone know how you change the font size for the menu where it says applications places systems and time07:27
fivreputing it in that format gets the same error07:27
HrdwrBoBfivre: that's never going to work :)07:27
fivreat poff 123007:27
fivreparse error. Last token seen: poff07:27
fivreGarbled time07:27
SlompOk, why are people so excited about Ubuntu?07:27
HrdwrBoBfivre: try echo poff| at 123007:27
HrdwrBoBor at 123007:27
HrdwrBoBpoff07:27
Lafitte-JohnnyRotten, isnt that the theme setting ?07:27
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HrdwrBoBctrl+d07:27
bob2Slomp: if you don't understand, that's fine; continue using whatever it is that you use.07:28
bob2Slomp: this channel isn't here to convince you07:28
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Slompbob2: I'm not asking for your negative rhetoric. I'm asking these people to show me the way.07:28
HrdwrBoBSlomp: ubuntu is shiny.07:28
bob2for god's sake07:28
Slompbob2: Dude, you're one of those people who attacks others.. take a chill pill, let me find out what's cool about Ubuntu07:28
bob2who am I attacking?07:29
SlompMe.07:29
JohnnyRottenLafitte-, theme setting where? i dont see anything under theme or under fonts that changes it07:29
SlompAnyways.07:29
bob2no, i'm telling you to go away07:29
Lafitte-JohnnyRotten,  let me check07:29
pepsilibx11-6 is pissing me off :(07:29
bob2that's not "attacking"07:29
Slompbob2: Stop reading what I have to say, oK? Thank you.07:29
SlompHwdwrBoB: What's better about Ubuntu than Fedora or SuSE or Mandriva?07:29
Lafitte-bob2, dicontinue his attendance here07:29
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Lafitte-grin07:29
Lafitte-hes lucky07:30
brettCan anyone help me set my 'default gateway device' so that I don't have to manually set it every time I boot?07:30
bob2brett: it didn't ask you during the install?07:30
HrdwrBoBSlomp: lots of things07:30
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SlompHrdwrBoB: tell me please!07:30
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Lafitte-JohnnyRotten,  let me load Ubuntu real quick   i was in diff os07:30
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parabolizeSlomp: I have a bad history with rpm.07:31
HrdwrBoBSlomp: primarily: the large available software combined with the 'just works' ness07:31
jorgp2hmm, where did libmesa-glu-dev go?07:31
djsac_: If networking is working you could try editing /etc/apt/sources.list, commenting out the "dev cdrom" line, apt-get update, apt-get install ubuntu-base07:31
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HrdwrBoBit's designed to be used by users rather than sysadmins07:31
JDahlSlomp, why does it have to better than other distro? Isn't it enough some people like it and find it useful?07:31
bob2brett: please don't /msg people07:31
ac_djs: ooh, i'll give that a shot07:31
SlompIs Ubuntu designed to use Synaptic?07:31
ac_uh, but where is vi? :)07:32
bob2brett: I don't know about the gui tools, the correct fix would be adding a gateway line in /etc/network/interfaces07:32
bob2ac_: it's not on the install disk07:32
ac_hm... a combination of rm and cat should probably do the trick07:32
flankkSlomp, yeah, it's basically debian with synaptic, more recent packages, and a friendly user base.07:32
bob2well, you had sed and nano07:32
parabolizeSlomp: .deb can be done with dpkg or aptitude or Synaptic.07:32
bob2flankk: except debian has synaptic too07:32
SlompSo Synaptic is the primary package tool, the one you're supposed to use.. for Ubuntu?07:33
flankkbob2, did i say it didn't?07:33
ac_oh, nano... ok that'll work07:33
bob2and had it long before ubuntu existed07:33
poningruslomp: can we take this discussion else where07:33
flankkSlomp, it was chosen to be included, to be more 'user-friendly'07:33
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poningruthis is a help channel07:33
brettbob2: I think we're not talking about the same thing.  I'm not talking about my default gateway (IP address), I'm talking about the default network interface (in my case wlan0)07:33
Lafitte-JohnnyRotten,  ok   let  me look fo rya07:33
SlompOk, well, for instance.. if I use Fedora they'll say USE YUM07:33
SlompUbuntu is USE SYNAPTIC?07:33
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JohnnyRottenthanks07:34
flankkgah07:34
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bob2Slomp: no, it's "If you like pointy clicky gui tools, use synaptic.  If you prefer the command line, use aptitude."07:34
parabolizeSlomp: sure if you want07:34
asparaguiattemping to troubleshoot a xfree problem on a new install...is there a way to force ubuntu to boot to console?07:34
bob2brett: whichever interface has the gateway line in /etc/network/interfaces is the default interface07:34
bob2(by definition)07:34
flankkSlomp, if you've used debian, and you like it.. then imo. you will enjoy ubuntu as a desktop solution.07:35
poningruslomp go into #ubuntuforums07:35
JDahlflankk, what do you mean "chosen to be included"? The difference between Ubuntu and Debian Unstable are not that big07:35
flankkJDahl, hah07:35
poningruI will be more than happy to let you know there07:35
flankkJDahl, then you've just proven my point, no?07:35
SlompHow come you can't "su" in Ubuntu?07:35
brettbob2: It should be that way, yes, but it's not working that way for me.07:35
JDahlflankk, maybe I am just a bit slow, but you seemed to suggest that Ubuntu included packages not found in Debian to make it more userfriendly07:36
flankkSlomp, it is desktop-oriented for the end-user.. sudo su if you must07:36
flankkJDahl, not at all07:36
Slompflankk: I don't understand.. I've been using su since I was a teenager. Why can't I su?07:36
bob2Slomp: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo07:36
bob2Slomp: you can of course su if you want to07:36
flankkSlomp, i already answered you.. sudo su07:37
bob2brett: paste your /etc/network/interfaces to #flood07:37
gpdSlomp: sudo -s07:37
SlompOk, I'm not attacking or anything, but when I installed Ubuntu last week, i removed it cause the Su command didn't work07:37
Slompthat made an impression on me07:38
poningrudude what did I just say?07:38
flankkomg..07:38
bob2Slomp: the installer explains all this to you07:38
bob2ignoring it seems a little silly07:38
SlompI didnt see that, because I didnt need to do anything in the installer really07:38
Slompit was like a 1 step install07:38
bob2this is also in the FAQ07:38
Lafitte-JohnnyRotten, i found system/font07:38
brettbob2: done07:39
Lafitte-JohnnyRotten,  there are all the font adjustments there07:39
Slompwell my friend uninstalled it as well cause of no Su07:39
Slompjust letting you guys know07:39
bob2that's pretty stupid07:39
jorgp2Slomp: what's the big deal with su?07:39
Lafitte-Slomp,  my Su works fine07:39
bob2brett: hrm, ok07:39
Slomphe called me up asking what's wrong with Su07:40
bob2brett: I think commenting out the last 3 lines will fix it07:40
Lafitte-Slomp,  SU might not work  if root didnt have password  ;)      set it it works07:40
brettbob2: actually... someone suggested that would solve my problem!  so, it doesn't work either way.07:40
SlompLafitte- root does have a pass, we just didn't know to type sudo su07:40
Lafitte-Slomp,  dont need sudo07:40
bob2Slomp: if root has a password, "su" will work fine07:40
bob2if you didn't set one, su will obviously not work07:40
Lafitte-Slomp,  can su just fine07:41
Slomphm.07:41
JohnnyRottenthat changed some fonts i wanted but my menu fonts are still way too big07:41
flankkSlomp, the root account is disabled by default, like it says in the installer. you can either 'sudo su' or enable the root account, up to you.07:41
SlompI get it.07:41
Lafitte-JohnnyRotten,  is all i can find as well   other then choosing different theme  and the use advanced to edit some menu stuff07:41
SlompOk, that's a little wierd, but not bad.07:42
Lafitte-brb     baby needs me07:42
bob2brett: well, that should bring it up for you, I don't know why it wouldn't work07:42
bob2brett: maybe someone on the user list might know07:42
SlompOK, the Ubuntu installer didn't ask me if I wanted development tools. it just installed. How do I "select all the "base" development tools" ?07:42
SlompWithout installing them -all- ?07:42
SlompI got no GCC07:42
Lafitte-Slomp,  Ubuntu is LInux for Humans    not guru for say only     so root was changed around a bit07:43
fabbioneSlomp: apt-get install build-essential07:43
bob2Slomp: install the build-essential package07:43
GNULinuxerSlomp, apt-get install build-essential07:43
bob2Slomp: this is also in the FAQ07:43
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brettbob2: The interface is brought up (sorta?) but it doesn't work until I set the 'default gateway device' to 'wlan0' in the GUI tool07:43
JohnnyRottenbob2 do you know how to make the fonts in the menu in xchat and where the time is diplayed and applications places system is?07:44
Lafitte-Slomp,  there is an option to select packages later if you do a server install  then redo the setup it will ask what typ eyou want07:44
bob2brett: I don't know what the gui tool does, unfortunately07:44
brettbob2: neither do I ;]   Thanks for giving it a whirl though07:44
Lafitte-Slomp,  i found it to run better to let ubuntu handle it07:45
GNULinuxerbob2, where is the Ubuntu FAQ?07:45
SlompOk, I'm reading the FAQ07:45
bob2JohnnyRotten: I'd assume one of the system -> preferences ->fonts options does it07:45
bob2blah07:45
bob2someone took it out of the topic07:45
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Lafitte-Slomp,  also got www.ubuntuguide.org  and it will tell you how to setup root password and all the stuff07:46
JohnnyRotteni tried that didnt help :( the ones i wanted changed are still too big07:46
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bob2GNULinuxer: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/faqfolder_view07:47
JohnnyRottenit looks like its using monospace 10 still or 12 and i have it set to 907:47
GNULinuxerbob2, got it07:47
JohnnyRottenand a different font07:47
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JohnnyRotteni tried restarting gnome also07:47
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sith__hi07:49
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cthulfuegoWhy do i only get russian web pages when I look for a chantily cream recipe?07:49
sith__some questions, here?07:49
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alvaro_hola07:50
sith__espanol07:50
alvaro_hi07:50
sith__hola07:50
alvaro_what is the marillar and backportsrepositors07:50
sith__oye de que parte eres?07:50
alvaro_chile07:50
alvaro_y tu?07:50
sith__sabes de linux07:51
sith__?07:51
sith__usa07:51
alvaro_si algo07:51
sith__mexicano07:51
alvaro_a ok07:51
KarlosIIwhat's the diff between sata and ata, is it noticeable?07:51
sith__me podrias ayudar07:51
alvaro_oye q son los repositorios marillat07:51
GNULinuxerKarlosII, yes07:51
alvaro_en que07:51
jorgp2is there a list of repos mirrors?07:51
synd_you theres a #ubuntu_es07:51
cthulfuego!es07:51
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:51
alvaro_KarlosII,07:51
synd_yo*07:51
synd_jorgp2: yes07:51
sith__tnx dude07:52
cthulfuegoKarlosII: There are different connectors and cables. sata has a one-cable-one-drive type setup. Speed of SATA250 vs ATA133 is about the same.07:52
alvaro_KarlosII,  the diference is the tecnology.... the sata are better07:52
synd_jorgp2: ubuntuguide.com/#extrarepositories07:52
sith__alvaro c u there07:52
sith__plz07:52
alvaro_dale07:52
alvaro_cual es tu duda07:52
GNULinuxercthulfuego, speed is same?07:52
KarlosIIcthulfuego, will I ntice it?07:52
cthulfuegoGNULinuxer: According to hdparm, yes.07:53
sith__intallar un vga drive07:53
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GNULinuxercthulfuego, hmm07:53
sith__how?07:53
cthulfuegoKarlosII: What do you have now and what are you planning to buy?07:53
alvaro_if you can buy a sata :)07:53
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snivlHow do I installed package-sets using Synaptic... Like build-essentials?07:53
synd_jorgp2: i mean ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories07:53
alvaro_sith__, cual en especifico07:53
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cthulfuegoGNULinuxer: I have 2 80GB 8MB cache WD drives. One ATA133, one SATA. They both bench at ~ 55Mb/sec via hdparm.07:53
anacronspeed is not same, you can notice it copying large files to other drives, of course both must be sata to make it work07:53
alvaro_sith__, que tarjeta tienes07:54
GNULinuxercthulfuego, i see07:54
anacroncthulfuego: maybe in linux they are same speed?07:54
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cthulfuegoanacron: What else would I run on them?07:54
sith__sis 63007:54
alvaro_What is the marillat repository? and the backport?07:54
sith__on board vga07:54
cthulfuego!restricted07:54
ubotuwell, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:54
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biker4444does imac g5 work with ubuntu?07:54
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alvaro_mmm me parece que con el driver "sis" vasta07:55
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cthulfuegoanacron: Check the restricted url.07:55
alvaro_que usas xorg o xfree?07:55
cthulfuegobiker4444: I will check with a livecd tomorrow :-)07:55
cthulfuegobiker4444: I expect it'll be fine, though.07:55
sith__oh osea que ya no tengo que installar otro07:55
jorgp2http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/ is missing xlibmesa-glu-dev07:55
anacroncthulfuego: windows?, but i don't say you should use it07:55
brettbob2: I think wlan0 does eventually come up automatically, just takes a long time (1-2min) to kick in.07:55
alvaro_depende si lo soporta tu kernel07:55
biker4444cthul: im having much trouble. i saw in the forums there is a known yaboot bug07:55
alvaro_pero lo mas seguro es que si07:55
cthulfuegoanacron: Windows is slow full stop.07:56
HrdwrBoBalvaro_: #ubuntu-es07:56
KarlosIIcthulfuego, 120 GIG 8MB ATA, and I'm looking at 200 GIG SATA, could also get a 200 GIG ATA 16 MB07:56
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KarlosIIgetting them new for about $100 each07:56
cthulfuegoKarlosII: The 16MB cache would make it nice and snappy.07:56
sith__ese es my problema sou nuevo en linux y no conosco sobre el sistema07:56
KarlosIIah :)07:57
alvaro_ubuntu-es is die07:57
sith__y como configurar mi kernel07:57
snivlHow do I install build-essential using Synaptic?07:57
cthulfuegoIf you both started speaking spanish there, it would be alive.07:57
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snivlAnd how do I get a list of the other "packs" ?07:57
cthulfuegosnivl: Right click build-essential and choose 'Install'.07:57
sith__lol07:57
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biker4444cthulfuego: is imac g5 supposed to work with ubuntu?07:57
KarlosIIcthulfuego, really :)07:58
sith__te veo alla07:58
KarlosIIcthulfuego, what would you recommend?07:58
snivlWhere do I see build essentials?07:58
alvaro_sith__, lo mas probable es que lo soporte, modifica el archivo /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... busca driver y modificalo por "sis"07:58
snivlcthulfuego: Where is thta?07:58
cthulfuegobiker4444: As far as I'm aware, yes. I will be near one tomorrow evening, Australian time. I can check then.07:58
biker4444cthulfuego: much thanks07:59
KarlosIIcthulfuego, I gues maybe I'll go with ata07:59
biker4444anyone else have any idea about imac g5 support?07:59
cthulfuegobiker4444: Did you check the Ubuntu website ands google?07:59
sith__gracias07:59
alvaro_biker4444, why do you like install linux in a mac? I think that the mac os is great...07:59
snivlOh, its a package is all08:00
snivlI see08:00
cthulfuegoalvaro_: MacOS X is very slow compared to linux.08:00
biker4444alvaro: i love mac os x, got off win xp a few months ago. linux is somethin good to be able to use08:00
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alvaro_I don't think that this difference is significative08:01
Cooner750um; hi :)08:02
synd_MacOS X is the best OS on the planet, IMHO.08:02
Cooner750I happened to have a quick question08:02
synd_Cooner750: go ahead08:03
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carthikCooner750, so you odnt any more ? :)08:03
KarlosIIcthulfuego, if I bought a pci sata card would I notice a diff?08:03
cthulfuegoKarlosII: I doubt it.08:03
mckingsynd_: depends on what you are doing with it08:03
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=== cthulfuego dares synd_ to run it on a G3/350 with 128Mb ram
biker4444linux is what i used when linux wouldnt boot-knoppix live cd for a few months. truly, it is fun. then i got mac os and loved it, especially for video editing, but im off topic08:03
cyphasehey everyone08:03
KarlosIIso diff with sata card and with sata built into mobo08:03
alvaro_synd, depend the use.. for a desktop I think that is the best08:03
sith__sup08:03
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synd_cthulfuego: of course, Tiger wont run very well on an older G3.08:04
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mckingif i had an extra $500 i might get a mac mini08:04
sith__lol08:04
sith__me 208:04
Cooner750Ok. Windows XP is installed on main drive (120GB; 2 partitions (one for XP and one for recovery console). Main drive stays as is. I have a Maxtor external 120GB. There are currently 2 partitions on it. One is the main (holds backups, etc...) and the other is about 2GB that I had a older linux distro on08:05
sith__or save it for my ps3 n xbox36008:05
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Cooner750I was wondering if there was a way Ubuntu could just be extracted to that second partition and be booted from there (computer can boot from USB)?08:05
mckingor an extra $700 for a pegasos08:05
synd_cthulfuego: but, older versions of OS X, the ones designed with the G3's in mind, will run fine. I admit, Linux sure would run faster, but theres a bunch of other factors than just speed.08:06
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synd_I'm not here to start a OS war, I'm just saying I think Mac OS is the best all around OS. It takes advantages from both the Win and Linux world08:06
sith__I can't find my firefox icon ,....help08:06
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likkashotCooners  something like part magic??08:07
biker4444apple going to x86 - good or bad for linux?08:07
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Cooner750it dosent let you apply changes08:07
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Cooner750it's a trial. $50 for full version08:07
synd_biker4444: bad, imo.08:07
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sith__(nuwbb)08:07
mckingCooner750: if the drive is plugged in while installing ubuntu, just tell it to use the /dev/sda2 partition, and install grub.  it can dual boot windows of the internal and ubuntu off the usb08:08
bob2anyway, mac os is off-topic here08:08
rob^thanx bob208:08
synd_blah08:08
bob2try #macosx if you all want to continue gushing ;-p08:08
Cooner750mcking; thanks. I'll just try messing around with it and see what I can do (thats how i've gotten past distros to work :p)08:09
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Cooner750unfortuneatly (spelling?) my laptop is only a 400Mhz w/ 4GB HD and dosent run the live cd too well. I want to keep windows on it so there would probably not be enough room anyway08:10
ciocanelhow can I change gnome-btdownload's port?08:10
synd_Cooner750: the live cd isnt recommended for hardware thats a bit old08:10
snivlI'm trying to install the C-header-files that would usually be in /usr/src/linux/include or something like that... but there's various different packages and they have different naming conventions. "Linux-headers" -- none are installed. There's Linux-Headers 2.6.10-5, but then it says latest version is 2.6.10-34.2 .. however, there's also 'Linux Kernel Headers' which is 2.5.999-test7-bk1708:10
snivlit's very confusing.08:10
mckingciocanel: edit the .desktop file (i would imagine)08:10
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bob2snivl: sudo aptitude insstall linux-headers-$(uname -r)08:11
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snivlbob2: What's different about Linux-headers and Linux-Kernel-Headers ???08:11
ciocanelmcking, I can't find it...08:11
bob2linux-kernel-headers are something entirely different (which the description does point out)08:11
snivloh08:11
mckingciocanel: the .desktop file or the command?08:12
bob2they're only there for glibc to use08:12
ciocanelmcking, the .desktop file08:12
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snivlSo, since I am running 2.6.10-5-386, I need the 386 headers?08:12
snivlHow do I switch easily to a -686 kernel ?08:12
bob216:11:14           bob2 | snivl: sudo aptitude insstall linux-headers-$(uname -r)08:12
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bob2that will install the correct ones08:12
Cooner750isn't there a way to point the windows boot menu to Ubuntu ini?08:12
bob2to switch, if you really do have a 686 cpu, install linux-68608:13
snivlI have a P408:13
bob2Cooner750: yes, but it's fiddly; letting grub do it is way less hassle08:13
Cooner750I was just wondering :)08:13
mckingCooner750: you can point the windows boot menu to the raw ubuntu partition, and install grub to that partition, but grub is much nicer08:13
Cooner750thanks :)08:14
snivlbob2: Can I uninstall Linux-386 ?08:15
bob2yes, but that won't do anything08:15
bob2you'd need to remove linux-image-...08:15
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snivlWill Linux-686 make any difference?08:15
bob2not much08:16
bob2it does allow you to use nptl, tho, which might help08:16
snivlWhat's NPTL?08:16
mckingsnivl: I use -k7 and i do see a speedup08:16
bob2next generation posix threads; it can make threaded programs run faster08:16
Razor-Xsnivl: it does, trust me08:17
Razor-XI'm using it, and it's quite a bit faster in many ways than Linux-38608:17
GNULinuxerI have installed mplayer ... but it dosn't work ... IMO, some problem with ALSA08:18
bob2"doesn't work"?08:19
Cooner750i'm going to boot from the livecd right now on my pavilion. Are there any IRC clients for Linux (Ubuntu; specifically)?08:19
parabolizexchat, gaim08:19
GNULinuxerbob2, i start it, but it gets stuck .... no error messages08:19
bob2Cooner750: there's 50 000, most of which existed before windows did08:19
bob2Cooner750: irssi-text is a very nice one08:19
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bob2GNULinuxer: you need to tell us where it gets stuck08:20
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bob2I assume on the alsa-init line08:20
Cooner750ok08:20
Cooner750brb. booting livecd ubuntu08:20
parabolizeCooner750: xchat will be installed and easy to use08:20
zythI wish I could make my ubuntu have a nice splash screen instead of the scrolling text08:20
Burgundaviazyth, coming for breezy, and check out splashy in the forums08:20
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Razor-Xcheers! http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/17/015220208:20
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bob2you can, it's just a huge amount of work for such little gain08:20
zythBurgundavia, hmm ok08:21
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GNULinuxerbob2, http://pastebin.com/30076008:21
GNULinuxerbob2, it is the alsa-init line08:22
bob2GNULinuxer: mplayer -ao alsa0908:22
cyphasehow do you change ID3 tags in ubuntu08:22
Razor-XGNULinuxer: a nice thing to remember is to pipe the output to grep so that you don't have to worry about reading lots08:22
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GNULinuxercyphase, easytag08:23
cyphasenvm, got it08:23
Razor-Xsaves you the eyesight you'll lose for other things (like Tales of Symphonia ;)08:23
GNULinuxerbob2, http://pastebin.com/30076108:24
bob2GNULinuxer: -ao oss, I guess08:24
bob2if you have esd running, use that08:24
GNULinuxerbob2, esd is running08:25
GNULinuxerbob2, esd works!08:25
bob2then -ao esd08:25
GNULinuxerbob2, yes08:26
microhaxocedega cant run on amd64 kubuntu can it?08:26
bob2cool08:26
bob2I wonder if it'll run amd64 windows binaries or not08:26
Razor-Xwow, I think Microsoft actually had an idea here08:28
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anatolecan anyone help with vmware? it worked last night, and i did not even restart the comp08:31
liwen[zh_cn] hello08:31
anatolei'm trying to power on an xp08:31
cyphaseyea, thats what i found GNULinuxer08:32
anatoleand the error is "Unable to change virtual machine power state: Cannot find a valid peer process to connect to."08:32
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bob2anatole: try asking the vmware company08:32
Slompcyphase = cyanphase ?08:32
GNULinuxercyphase, found easytag?08:32
bob2I assume they give you support when you buyt it?08:32
liwen[zh_cn] when i startx ,,the message "Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o""08:32
cyphaseGNULinuxer, i look in synaptic right after i asked08:32
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liwen[zh_cn] help me thx08:32
GNULinuxercyphase, i see08:33
liwen[zh_cn] GNULinuxer can you help me08:34
SlompQuestion. Honestly, what's better about Fedora than Ubuntu? What do you guys think's better about other distro that needs to be improved upon?08:34
GNULinuxerliwen[zh_cn] , regarding what?08:35
Slompto improve Ubuntu08:35
Slomp?08:35
liwen[zh_cn] GNULinuxer: when i startx ,,the message "Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o""08:36
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zythbetter about fedora...?08:36
zythuhm.08:36
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GNULinuxerliwen[zh_cn] , and what happens then?08:36
liwen[zh_cn] and will take a very long time enter gnome08:36
liwen[zh_cn] about 3 or 4 minutes to enter gnome08:37
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SlompYes. What's better about Fedora?08:38
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SlompI could ask on #Fedora and they'd all say how much better Fedora is.. but what if I ask, you guys?08:38
zythwell, I expect most of us will say we prefer ubuntu :{08:39
zyth:P08:39
zyththis being #ubuntu and all...08:39
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wolverianI haven't tried Fedora, so I can't really say.08:39
lhbi changed from fedora to ubuntu08:39
Pengowhats fedora like?08:40
parabolizered hat ;P08:40
liwen[zh_cn] GNULinuxer?can help08:40
GNULinuxerliwen[zh_cn] , i want to help .... what is your system config?08:41
microhaxowhats a good video player?08:41
parabolizexine08:41
synd_Pengo: Try both. See what you like. They're both Linux so, either way.. youre still ahead of the game08:41
synd_microhaxo: totem-xine08:41
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Pengoim on ubuntu at the moment08:41
poningruvlc08:41
parabolizeuse gxine or totem-xine for a gui08:42
synd_Pengo: but theres a reason why ubuntu is #1 on distrowatch.com08:42
poningruis very goode08:42
poningrugood08:42
Pengoits the longest time i've ever had a distro installed on my computer08:42
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SlompWell, I have Fedora and Ubuntu side by side on 2 VM's08:42
Slompthey're almost the same.08:42
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SlompOnly difference is um, the package system08:42
lhbits a one disc download08:42
asimismoCan someone tell me what the kernel version is for Hoary?08:42
bob2asimismo: 2.6.1008:42
GNULinuxerasimismo, 2.6.1008:42
mattiswell, and the license08:42
bob2(with a ton of pateches)08:43
liwen[zh_cn] Section "Module"08:43
liwen[zh_cn] Load"bitmap"08:43
liwen[zh_cn]         #Load"dbe"08:43
liwen[zh_cn] Load"ddc"08:43
liwen[zh_cn] #Load"dri"08:43
liwen[zh_cn] Load"extmod"08:43
liwen[zh_cn] Load"freetype"08:43
liwen[zh_cn] Load"glx"08:43
liwen[zh_cn] Load"int10"08:43
liwen[zh_cn] Load"record"08:43
cyphaseyou've got to be shitting me...08:43
synd_liwen[zh_cn] : dont paste08:43
liwen[zh_cn] Load"type1"08:43
liwen[zh_cn] Load"vbe"08:43
liwen[zh_cn] EndSection08:43
asimismoThanks. Does 2.6.10 have iteraid?08:43
wsGreen light in A.M. for new projects.  Red light in P.M. for traffic tickets.08:43
cyphasethere aren't any ogg-to-mp3 converters in ubuntu?08:43
bob2cyphase: sure there are08:43
synd_cyphase: yeah08:43
parabolizecyphase: DON"T. rip from wav or don't change08:44
cyphase?08:44
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cyphaseparabolize, what're you on about?08:44
parabolize.wav what comes on a music CD08:44
cyphasei'm not08:44
cyphasei have an ogg file08:45
cyphaseand i need to change it to mp308:45
microhaxoahh08:45
microhaxois there a package with all codecs in it08:45
microhaxo?08:45
parabolizeewww don't do that eather08:45
cyphaseparabolize, unfourtanetly, most mp3 players don't support ogg08:45
synd_!restricted08:45
uboturestricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:45
cyphase(and no, this particular player isn't an ipod)08:45
synd_microhaxo: go there.08:45
zythI have a zen xtra I need to sell08:46
zythit doesn't do ogg08:46
zythso I must sell.08:46
Kamping_Kaiseroh, we have a bot now?08:46
robitaillecyphase,  there was a long thread recently on the mailing list http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-June/037555.html08:46
microhaxorestricted?08:46
synd_Kamping_Kaiser: always have.08:46
zyth!bot08:46
ubotuzyth: No idea08:46
zyth!ubotu08:46
ubotuzyth: I don't know, could you explain it?08:46
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synd_zyth: /msg him08:46
Kamping_Kaisersynd_ oh, whoops :D08:46
zythubotu, you are the #ubuntu bot08:46
ubotuzyth: what are you talking about?08:46
zythlol08:46
zythok, I cease playing with it :)08:46
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Cooner750ok back08:47
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Cooner750For some reason I cannot play audio files08:47
Kamping_Kaiserhas anyone got the backports working? someone wants to know where to point their mirrors.08:47
synd_microhaxo: yes08:47
zythmirrormax...08:48
synd_Kamping_Kaiser: backports work, but i tend to stay away from it.08:48
zythyou don't want to update from backports, Kamping_Kaiser08:48
zythjust make sure you don't :)08:48
Cooner750I get the error message "There were no decoders found to render the stream."08:48
Kamping_KaiserI'm on breezy, but I'll pass the message on :D08:48
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Kamping_Kaiseri just cant seem to get them to download the list, let alone *use* them08:49
robitailleCooner750,  trying to play mp3 files?08:49
Cooner750yes08:49
zythCooner750, apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad08:49
zythif you're using the Music Player08:49
Cooner750Totem?08:49
zythyeah, since it uses gstreamer..08:49
aleksiis there some good howto you would recomend me, about  remotely using X?08:49
zythunless you've installed totem-xine08:49
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Cooner750I could also use Media Player08:49
synd_aleksi: VNC?08:50
aleksije08:50
synd_je?08:50
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Kamping_Kaiseraleksi, how do you mean, use x remotely?08:50
PengoCan someone help me with my terminal the font is in symbols and i never changed anything08:50
Cooner750I get this error when using "apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad": E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)08:51
Cooner750E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?08:51
ottoaimpengo: on the startup mesages and text login?08:51
aleksiI would like to be able to use programs that need Xserver from another computer08:51
synd_Cooner750: sudo it.08:51
Pengono when i open it in Gnome08:51
Cooner750synd_: k08:51
ottoaimpengo: oh i could recreate that back when i used gentoo and a reboot fixed it.  not sure what would fix your problem, sorry :/08:52
Cooner750Now I get this: E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad08:52
PengoI'll try08:52
Pengobe right back08:52
ottoaimpengo: tell me if it helps08:52
Pengok08:52
synd_Cooner750: then you need the repositories. you need to edit your sources.list.08:52
zyth!restricted08:52
uboturestricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:52
zythgo there Cooner75008:52
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synd_Cooner750: www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories08:53
synd_no, zyth08:53
zythsynd, eh, same info can be gotten at both as far as that goes.08:54
synd_he cant get his gstreamer pkg08:54
synd_due to him not having the right repositories08:54
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zythhe needs to add the hoary-extras, there's a section on that in the restrictedformat page, and no doubt on the link you posted08:55
zyth*shrug*08:55
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IRCMonkey_newbie help?08:55
zythnewbie SMASH!08:56
zythj/k ;)08:56
parabolizeNEVER!08:56
IRCMonkey_help? <he asks>08:56
parabolizewhat you nedd08:56
zythjust ask please :)08:56
synd_IRCMonkey_: sure, what is the problem?08:56
synd_newbies keep ubuntu going08:57
IRCMonkey_just installed new ubuntu... after cd pops out/reboot... just get grub prompt... what gives?08:57
Pengothey're what make the world go around08:57
asparaguiwhee.08:57
parabolizeerror 18?08:57
IRCMonkey_yeah08:57
asparaguik, getting closer to a solution.08:58
parabolizeeww08:58
asparaguihow do i switch to using xorg over xfree?08:58
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IRCMonkey_can you use lilo?08:58
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parabolizeerror 18 has to do with mbr and your bios. your boot partition was to big08:59
synd_you can, but grub is what comes with ubuntu.08:59
robitailleasparagui,  Hoary uses xorg by default.  Warty uses xfree by default08:59
asparaguihmm.08:59
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IRCMonkey_Im a complete newbie... know nothing about grub/ lilo or linux08:59
asparaguithere goes that brilliant idea.08:59
asparaguii've got a dvi (sorta) monitor, and it's not getting power on boot.08:59
synd_IRCMonkey_: then stick with grub08:59
robitailleasparagui,  which version of Ubuntu do you have right now?09:00
asparagui5.04.09:00
zythasparagui, then you have xorg09:00
IRCMonkey_I saw a news story about ubuntu, deletef FC and installed ubuntu... did I make a mistake?09:00
synd_no09:00
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learn25hi all! :)09:00
IRCMonkey_xandros is looking good right now09:01
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synd_IRCMonkey_: to each his own09:01
mckingnight all09:01
IRCMonkey_never had a loader prob with FC or xandros09:01
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synd_then go with FC or xandros, IRCMonkey_  : )09:01
parabolizeIRCMonkey_ you need someone smarter then I to help you make a smaller boot partition.09:01
synd_but you are better off with Ubuntu as a Linux newb, imo.09:02
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learn25what are the requirements to run firestarter? will it run internet connection sharing even without logging in to the GUI?09:02
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IRCMonkey_I thought linux bypassed the bios and hd size wasn't a prob with FC09:02
parabolizeit uses the bios to boot09:02
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poningrueverything in x86 needs the bios to boot09:03
IRCMonkey_I was surprised when FC recognized the full hd size09:03
poningruunless you put something else in the ram09:03
synd_why dont you just let the ubuntu installer handle the partitioning ?09:03
IRCMonkey_i did09:03
IRCMonkey_reinstalled 3x09:03
gm78In Ubuntu Warty i was able to enter the command nautilus applications:/// to edit the menu. How do I do this now in Hoary, that command doesnt work?09:03
synd_the default setting should work.09:03
PengoI have a question09:04
Pengoa stupid one with a stupid answer probably09:04
synd_Pengo: just ask.09:04
gm78Pengo : lol, go ahead and ask09:04
Lightygm78: Download and install SMEG. http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/09:04
learn25Hi! Anybody here tried firestarter to share the internet conniection?09:04
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microhaxowhats the best music player?09:04
Pengobut where is the /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_screen key in The configuration editor09:04
synd_microhaxo: xmms is my favorite09:05
bob2microhaxo: that's obviously subjective.  I quite like cplay.09:05
synd_some say beep media player09:05
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robitaillegm78,  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeMenuEditingHowTo09:05
learn25is there a media player in ubuntu that can play movie trailers in yahoo's website?09:06
bob2sure, mplayer and xine09:06
robitaillemicrohaxo,   I use Rhythmbox and xmms09:06
zythlearn25, mplayer-mozilla plugin09:06
microhaxohow can i make files only open with a specific app?09:06
learn25ok. thanks09:06
microhaxolike in windows09:06
microhaxoopen with09:06
microhaxo?09:06
microhaxoalways use this09:06
learn25my problem now is how to setup internet connection sharing under ubuntu. I have two NIC. eth0 and eth109:07
zythhm my flash audio is out of sync with my video09:07
Cooner750does ubuntu have modules like some other distros?09:08
synd_modules?09:08
Cooner750Yea; there a file that you download. Go to terminal and type moduse <modulename> and boom it installs it09:09
Cooner750I know Slax has this09:09
synd_apt-get09:09
microhaxoguys09:09
learn25how to install mplayer-mozilla plugin?09:09
synd_dpkg -i <.deb>09:09
microhaxohow can i make a console transparent?09:09
synd_learn25: ubuntuguide.org09:09
learn25ok09:09
synd_learn25: loads of newb info there.09:10
bob2Cooner750: you mean packages?09:10
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bob2Cooner750: sure, debian had it long before the rest of the world.  sudo apt-get install packagename.09:10
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Cooner750probably. People at Slax call them modules09:10
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ubuntui was wondering who updates the repositories?09:11
cthulfuegoubuntu: The ubuntu developers.09:11
synd_ubuntu: the devs09:11
Cooner750When I go to install the Multimedia Codecs it says "Do you want to continue (Y/n)" when I type Y and hit Enter it says "Abort." and throws me back to the command line...09:11
microhaxoYo09:12
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ubuntubecause the version of gaim is now updated to version 1.3.1 and the version in the repository is 1.3009:12
bob2Cooner750: "multimedia codecs"?09:12
ubuntu1.3.0*09:12
bob2ubuntu: in breezy?09:12
Cooner750http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs09:12
ubuntu?09:13
Lightymicrohaxo: Open a terminal, go to Edit -> Current Profile, click the Effects tab, and change the Background setting to Transparent background. A slider below that lets you set how transparent you want it.09:13
cthulfuego!ICS is <reply> To share your intenet connection on eth0 with a LAN on eth1, make sure you don't have a firewall that interferes. Then run: iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE; sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1  Ask me about <simple firewall>09:13
ubotucthulfuego: okay09:14
ubuntuno hoary09:14
microhaxoim in KDE09:14
microhaxoKUBUNTU09:14
Lightyubuntu: That happens sometimes. It'll take a few days or a week or two for the volunteers to get GAIM updated in the repositories.09:14
synd_microhaxo: so goto #kubuntu09:14
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microhaxothey dont talk09:14
microhaxolol09:15
microhaxoi want it real time transparent09:15
Lightymicrohaxo: I don't do KDE. Seemed like too much trouble.09:15
microhaxonone of this laggy shit09:15
Cooner750Yes; the lines are already un-commented in "/etc/apt/sources.list"09:15
ubuntuok thx lighty09:15
PengoSo I still dont know how to change the splash screen09:15
synd_microhaxo: no need for the lang09:15
cthulfuego!simple firewall is iptables A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT; iptables -P INPUT DROP; iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT  You will then need rules to allow incoming traffic for each service you want to run. Check the documentation in /usr/share/doc/iptables/html09:15
ubotuokay, cthulfuego09:15
LightyPengo: I didn't really understand your question. Could you try rephrasing it?09:16
Cooner750I've never had audio issues in linux before09:16
PengoOk, I read the thing on the Gnome site and i added the image to the .gnome/ folder then when i go to change the Gconf key it isnt there09:17
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LightyPengo: Can you give a URL for where on the Gnome site they talk about this?09:18
Pengo Lighty, http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q809:19
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cthulfuegoOh crap.09:19
synd_swrong cthulfuego09:20
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Whistlerhow can i install sh files?09:20
cthulfuegoWhistler: sh ./foo.sh09:20
kvidellthat's a shell script. just run it09:21
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cthulfuegoCooner750: Is the music any good or is it that noisy young people's music we're better off without?09:21
kvidellby making it executable (chmod +x thinger.sh) and running it (./thinger.sh) or running it as a script the other way (sh thinger.sh)09:21
synd_Cooner750: many people have no sound issues with ubuntu09:21
Cooner750Is good music :)09:21
cthulfuegoCooner750: Can you give me an example?09:21
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synd_cthulfuego: how about you give an example09:22
cthulfuegosynd_: Of what?09:22
Cooner750Well some artists; Rush; uh.... I cant thing about much at the moment09:22
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Cooner750trying to get sound to work09:22
LightyPengo: Can you get all the way down to "options" in the Configuration Editor?09:22
synd_cthulfuego: your music prefs09:22
Whistlercthulfuego thx09:22
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synd_Cooner750: have you taken a look at ubuntuguide.org09:23
synd_Cooner750: or the ubuntu wiki09:23
Cooner750Yes; I've un-commented the lines and tried installing the codecs09:23
Pengono:/09:23
LightyWhistler: You thanked the wrong fellow. :)09:23
Whistler?09:23
Whistlerwhy?09:23
LightyPengo: Do you have an "apps" key?09:23
Whistler<cthulfuego> Whistler: sh ./foo.sh09:23
Pengoyeah09:23
Cooner750It asks "Do you want to continue (Y/n)" and when I type Y and hit enter it says "Abort." and goes back to command line09:23
synd_Cooner750: paste your sources.list in #flood or pastebin.com09:24
kvidellcthulfuego gave him A way to do it... I don't know if it works or not09:24
alonsohi all!, How can i install mozilla firefox 1.04 by apt-get??, i don't wan to manual download!!09:24
LightyWhistler: Oops. I missed his line. I saw kvidell's more complete answer. Sorry.09:24
paxonAnyone knows how to cancel printing job?09:24
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bob2alonso: you can't, sorry09:24
kvidellnever tried combining both methods, lol09:24
alonsobob2: why??09:24
LightyPaxon: Do you have a printer icon up by your clock?09:24
bob2or you can use backports, and then have to complain to them if/when it breaks09:24
Cooner750ok. pasting as pastebin.com brb09:24
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paxonLighty, nop.09:24
bob2alonso: because hoary is released.  when something is "released", it doesn't get random new bits of software09:25
synd_Cooner750: just copy/paste the url here.09:25
poningrualonso: the 1.0.2 in ubuntu is the same as 1.0.409:25
Lightypaxon: Warty or Hoary?09:25
paxonHoary.09:25
bob2alonso: 1.0.2 in Ubuntu has all the security fixes from 1.0.409:25
paxonUnder KDE.09:25
poningrualonso: why do you need the 1.0.4?09:25
Cooner750http://pastebin.com/30078609:25
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poningrufor the extensions?09:25
poningruif so go here09:25
poningruextensionsmirror.nl09:25
synd_the devs just havent updated the version number for some reason09:25
synd_for 1.0.409:26
Lightypaxon: May I suggest you go over to #kubuntu?09:26
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alonsobob2; because, in windows it 1.0.4, i only want to use newest version09:26
Whistleri installed cross over office how do i run IE with it?09:26
ubuntuwhen you type do u actually type there username then the message or do u push a button?09:26
cthulfuegoalonso: So you have no good reason is what you're saying?09:26
bob2alonso: why do you want the latest version?09:26
paxonLighty, got it.(via Ctrl center) Thanks.09:27
poningrualonso: the 1.0.2 in ubuntu is the same as 1.0.4 elsewhere09:27
Cooner750just incase you didnt see it above: http://pastebin.com/30078609:27
cthulfuegoponingru: No, it's not.09:27
bob2poningru: are you sure about that?09:27
poningruum yes it is09:27
cthulfuegoponingru: Um, no, its not.09:27
synd_Cooner750: i really recommend making your sources.list file look like the one here: www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories09:27
bob2I'm pretty sure it's not09:28
poningruplease explain the defference between the two09:28
Cooner750synd_: ok09:28
bob2it's 1.0.2 with particular security fixes from 1.0.4 backported09:28
cthulfuegoponingru: The ubuntu one has security fixes, but _not_ additional 1.0.4 functionality.09:28
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alonsoi think new version is better with some security, but if it the same, i don't worry it, sir.09:28
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synd_Cooner750: thought i mentioned that to you already09:28
Do-It-Nowhi all09:28
poningruwhat additional functionality was added?09:28
ubuntucthulfugeo: what are the xtra features?09:28
poningrunothing iirc09:28
bob2poningru: none09:28
cthulfuegoalonso: The security fixes for 1.0.4 are also in the Ubuntu 1.0.2.09:28
synd_Cooner750: but try that, then do the codecs found at ubuntuguide,org as well.09:28
cthulfuegoponingru: check the mozilla website and compare against the firefox changelog.09:29
bob2poningru: other bug fixes were added between upstream 1.0.2 and 1.0.4, which ubuntu does not have09:29
alonsoall: ok, i am clear now09:29
alonsothanks all!!09:29
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Cooner750now it wont let me edit when using gedit command...09:29
Whistleri installed cross over office how do i run IE with it?09:29
cthulfuegoDoes anyone have a KDE 5 source line for me?09:29
synd_Cooner750: sudo gedit09:30
Pengorebooting09:30
crazyhorsekde5?09:30
poningruhttp://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/releases/1.0.4.html09:30
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poningruthat is whats fixed09:30
synd_Cooner750: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list09:30
Cooner750synd_: I mustve read your mind. I just did that :p09:30
cthulfuegocrazyhorse: it's got a higher version that KDE3, so it's obviously better software.09:30
Cooner750I thought "hmm.... maybe if I sudo it"09:30
synd_Cooner750: anytime it doesnt let you do something, its most likey because you didnt sudo it.09:30
thoreauputicWhistler: follow the instructions you got when you paid for it?09:30
synd_get into the habit of sudoing09:30
Lightysynd_: But only when it doesn't work without sudo, right?09:31
synd_Whistler: why would you want IE gobblygook running?09:31
synd_Lighty: huh?09:31
paxonsudo <3 ubuntu -now09:31
poningruso there you have it nothing extra was added in09:31
cthulfuegoSee, I'm not sure that Ubuntu contains 1.0.4 fixes for S390.09:32
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Shuflahello09:32
ubuntuhi09:32
Shuflai've got not nice problem09:32
poningruyeah dont worry about that shouldnt effect a user much09:32
synd_i heard it did, cthulfuego. at least i thought i read that here a few days ago.09:32
Shuflamy machine with X runed screen-saver09:32
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Shuflaand my keybord and mouse are locked09:32
poningruso for all practical purposes there is no difference09:32
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microhaxoerr09:33
cthulfuegobob2: You going to be in melburne next friday?09:33
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bob2except the version, which breaks extensions09:33
Shuflai've got to ssh to this system, and i've killed gdm, but keyboard is still unresponsive09:33
Cooner750It now gives more error messages.09:33
microhaxoIs there any way i can install a 32bit kernel over my amd64 kernel?09:33
bob2firefox needs SONAME-esque interface versioning09:33
synd_gaim 1.3.1 is not yet avail in the apt, correct?09:33
bob2cthulfuego: nah, more likely mid-july09:33
synd_Cooner750: did you sudo apt-get update09:33
Cooner750Well; I'm going to bed (tired). I'll mess with it more tomorrow09:33
Cooner750I'll try update09:33
Shuflait's not first time with such hang - diffrent machines (x86,amd64) and sometimes after screensaver running system is locked down :(09:33
Cooner750right now09:33
Whistlersynd_ cause i play online game.And it supports IE only09:33
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priestcan someone tell which system monitor is used here? http://www.tuxme.com/node/48609:34
cthulfuegobob2: July 29 is Critical mass09:34
bob2cthulfuego: hmmm09:34
synd_Cooner750: you obviously didnt read the whole page i sent you to : )09:34
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crazyhorsesynd, nay but the breezy package build on hoary works fine09:34
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LightyogneP: Work OK?09:34
synd_crazyhorse: where can i get it09:34
synd_?09:34
bob2priest: gdesklets09:35
bob2cthulfuego: ah09:35
ognePLighty, yeah it did thanks09:35
priestbob2: thank you09:35
Cooner750updating09:35
LightyogneP: Good.09:35
Cooner750thanks to my fast speed connection it wont take long09:35
synd_yup09:35
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crazyhorsesynd, you can build it by yourself or i can email you the .deb i build09:36
Lightypriest: Here's the URL for you: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/09:36
Cooner750I bet if something like this went wrong on windows M$ would suggest you reinstall the OS :p09:36
synd_Cooner750: then http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs09:36
Cooner750k09:36
Cooner750apparently it needs updating :)09:36
synd_crazyhorse: phil.jm@gmail.com09:36
Cooner750on file 38 of 4609:37
synd_yup09:37
Cooner750does anybody know the time (I live in Ohio)?09:37
cthulfuegoubotu: time09:37
ubotucthulfuego: Are you smoking crack?09:37
cthulfuegoyes09:37
Cooner750The clock is screwed up. It says 7:37 AM09:37
synd_its 330 here in lexington, ky.09:37
cthulfuegoCooner750: apt-get install ntpdate09:37
Cooner750thanks!09:38
synd_thought ntupdate was installed and ran by default?09:38
Lightypriest: You can use apt-get or Synaptic to install gdesklets and then visit that site to download the individual Gnome desklets.09:38
crazyhorsesynd_, wait a second pls09:38
synd_crazyhorse: no prob.09:38
Cooner750what should I do now?09:38
synd_Cooner750: huh?09:39
synd_http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs09:39
Cooner750nevermind :)09:39
cthulfuegoAh hold on, maybe your time is set to UTC09:39
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cthulfuegoUTC is 7:39 AM atm I think09:39
priestLighty: thanks09:39
Cooner750it's installing09:39
synd_jeeze i need to sleep at night cause the longer i stay up, the more marlboros i inhale09:39
snivlHello. Why is it that if I remove something like "wvdial" from Synaptic... it tries to remove "Ubuntu-desktop" ?09:39
Cooner750where does all of this go anyway? I'm running the live cd (yea; changes will be lost at shutdown tonight :( )09:40
snivlI can't remove any of this junk09:40
cthulfuegosnivl: Coz ubuntu-desktop depends on wvdial09:40
snivlWhy?09:40
synd_Cooner750: what?09:40
snivlI dont use DIALUP09:40
snivlnever will, ever.09:40
cthulfuegosnivl: ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package that ONLY contains depends, so you can delet it without any problems.09:40
synd_we all started on dialup : )09:40
thoreauputicsnivl: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage - you can safely remove it09:40
Cooner750I was just wondering what it does with the packages it downloads. It is running live cd at the moment09:40
synd_i remember when dial up was like pay by the hour09:40
synd_and i was mesmerized when dialup was "unlimited"09:41
thoreauputicsynd: still is in some places09:41
cthulfuegoStill is in many places, with timed local calls thrown in too.09:41
Cooner750which brings me to another question. Is there anyway to save settings, etc... in Ubuntu?09:41
snivlcan I remove Ubuntu-Base?09:41
Cooner750In Slax there was a command but I forget what it was09:41
synd_thoreauputic: well, here in the US..09:41
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snivlis Ubuntu Base another Metapackage?09:41
thoreauputicsynd: hint: there's a world out here ;)09:42
LightyCooner750: I just have to ask, why are you bothering to customize a not-installed OS?09:42
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microhaxodifferent day same shit....09:42
snivlI'm trying to remove dosfstools , and it says Ubuntu  base removal09:42
synd_thoreauputic: indeed : )09:42
cthulfuegosnivl: Probably.09:42
Cooner750"Cooner750: I just have to ask, why are you bothering to customize a not-installed OS?"... dunno really09:42
Cooner750wow. It wants to hang while it's installing updates09:42
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microhaxoIM SUPPOST TO DIE TONIGHT!09:43
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synd_Cooner750: well.09:43
snivlWhy not name things like Ubuntu-Base to be Ubuntu-Base (Meta) ?09:43
cthulfuegosnivl: See 'apt-cache show ubuntu-base'09:43
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Cooner750I do have 2GB to save settings if I need it09:43
microhaxoyo, waht version of kde does KUBUNTU run?09:43
synd_microhaxo: my lil homey kenny died tonight09:43
microhaxosux for you :|09:43
microhaxoyo09:43
microhaxothose bastards09:43
cthulfuegosnivl: Because ubuntu-base (meta) is a PITA to type.09:43
synd_Cooner750: why not just go ahead and install ubuntu?09:43
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synd_anyone want ubuntu cds quick? i have about 50 of them to get rid of09:44
Lightysnivl: Do you ever use flash disks (aka thumb drives, jump drives, card readers, etc.)?09:44
microhaxoLOl09:44
skyneti09:44
skynethi09:44
microhaxoak loaded09:44
thoreauputicmicrohaxo: kde 3.409:44
Cooner750synd_ i will tomorrow.09:44
microhaxo3.4.1?09:44
microhaxoor is that unstable?09:44
synd_Cooner750: fun09:44
skynetcan someone give me some help with a dongle?09:44
synd_skynet: what the problem?09:44
microhaxoMAAAYN all i need is a lil bit!09:45
synd_how well does ubuntu work with bluetooth?09:45
skyneti can't set it up09:45
skyneti used ndiswrapper09:45
synd_skynet: a dongle what?09:45
Cooner750going to bed.09:45
synd_ah i see.09:45
Cooner750see ya tomorrow09:45
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skynetconceptronics09:45
Cooner750it's wanteing to freezeee09:45
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Cooner750wow. my typing sucks09:45
skynetis a usb device09:45
Cooner750'night09:46
LightyCooner750: G'night09:46
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synd_cig break time09:46
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skynetsynd_?09:47
Lightyskynet: I tried to use a USB 802.11G dongle, but I couldn't get it to work.09:47
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skynetso do i :-(09:47
synd_skynet: ive found that dongles are finicky09:47
synd_but they shouldnt be any different from PCMCIA cards09:47
Lightyskynet: From what I was able to figure out, Ubuntu can do the wireless and it can do the USB, but it has a hard time doing the wireless through USB. :-(09:48
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skynetahhhh09:48
Lightysynd_: PCMCIA has been around an awful lot longer than USB, so support for it is much better.09:48
skynetok09:49
synd_cthulfuego: whats that ubotu topic for internet sharing?09:49
skyneti have to buy another card..09:49
cthulfuego!ICS09:49
ubotuTo share your intenet connection on eth0 with a LAN on eth1, make sure you don't have a firewall that interferes. Then run: iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE; sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1  Ask me about <simple firewall>09:49
Lightysynd_: What's ubotu?09:49
synd_thanks.09:49
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cthulfuegoTime to test the package info script.09:49
synd_cthulfuego: think that would work for wlan0 to eth0 ?09:50
Lightyskynet: That's what I had to do.09:50
cthulfuegosynd_: yes09:50
skynetuhm09:50
cthulfuegosynd_: That works for any set of more than one network interfaces09:50
microhaxoguy09:50
microhaxos09:50
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synd_cthulfuego: so, i can take my incoming connection (from wlan0) and output it thru eth0?09:50
skynetusing ndiswrapper i got this message:09:50
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synd_cthulfuego: while still maintaining my wlan0 connection, of course09:51
synd_?09:51
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skynetcrtusb  driver present09:51
skynetso it recognize the device09:51
synd_skynet: its not picking up the device, obviously09:51
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skynetbut can't set it up09:52
pattequit09:52
umanhi all09:52
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skyneti have to buy a pci card09:52
synd_Lighty: heh09:53
umanlol @ Lighty09:53
seliniumthoreauputic: I am starting to think you are a bot! Are you eve not here? :)09:53
cthulfuegosynd_: yes09:53
thoreauputicselinium: oh, sure - I do sleep sometimes ;)09:53
thoreauputicselinium: even bots have to rest, you know ;-)09:54
skynetg'night09:54
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Lightyskynet: G'night and good luck with wireless!09:54
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skynettnx09:55
crazyhorse undefined reference to `sleep` ;)09:55
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Lightyselinium: thoreauputic obviously has a trigger set so that when you enter the room, an alarm goes off, and they can get on their keyboard right away.09:55
MilI cant see the systray icons..Why?It's hard to use azureus and amule09:56
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syndcthulfuego: do i have to change anything on that cmd for wlan0 > eth0 or leave as is?09:57
syndiptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE; sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=109:57
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LightyMil: Right-click on a gnome panel and click Add to panel.09:57
LightyMil: Do you see an option of System Tray (or SysTray, I forget which way it's spelled)?09:58
concept10Systray I thought that was windows?09:58
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Lightyconcept10: We have one in Gnome, too.09:58
MilLighty, When i minimize azureus it must be in gnome-panel with a icons...the option system tray is checked09:59
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Lightyconcept10: Do you run Gaim or the Ubuntu updater? Where the little icons are is where the SysTray is.09:59
Davyif i can not connect to web,i can not install ubuntu?09:59
concept10Lighty, oh i didnt think it was called system tray09:59
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Lightyconcept10: It surprised me too. I would have thought Microsoft copyrighted it.10:00
LightyDavy: Do you have a CD or DVD with Ubuntu on it?10:00
crazyhorseapple. not microsoft. apple ;)10:00
LightyMil: Did you check the Add to panel option I mentioned?10:00
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synd_dont mention apple or bob2 gets annoyed10:01
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Lightycrazyhorse: There's a system tray on the Mac desktop?10:01
concept10I removed the system tray from my panel, it bugs me10:01
synd_:>10:01
synd_no10:01
ognePDoes anyone know where i can get a canon iP3000 Pixma Printer driver for linux?10:01
synd_no systray on macos10:01
Davyonly a download cd which size is 500M10:02
bob2synd_: I'm just trying to keep this channel on-topic and useful10:02
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synd_Davy: you dont need a connection to install10:02
LightyDavy: If you don't already have it on CD, then downloading it is your only option.10:02
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concept10ogneP, try linuxprinting.org10:03
LightyDavy: But, if you do have it, then, no, you don't need a connection.10:03
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crazyhorseLighty, nay, but the concept draft was made by apple i think10:03
concept10ogneP, the printer config app couldnt recognize your printer?10:03
crazyhorsesynd_, you've got mail10:03
stimpieogneP, ftp://download.canon.jp/pub/driver/bj/linux/ might have it but as far as I know it is not supported for linux10:03
Davybut only a base system without gnome,if only a cd10:03
synd_crazyhorse: thx10:03
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cthulfuegoWoooo!10:04
synd_Davy: yes you can do that too10:04
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LightyDavy: Do you want that barebones of an Ubuntu? Otherwise, the regular Install CD does come with Gnome and all the other delicious goodies.10:05
CoffeeManyes10:06
CoffeeMandelicious it is10:06
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cthulfuego!info ubuntu-desktop10:06
ubotuubuntu-desktop: (The Ubuntu desktop system), section base, is optional. Version: 0.43 (hoary), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 32 kB10:06
cthulfuegokick-arse10:06
cthulfuego!info ubuntu-desktop breezy10:06
ubotuubuntu-desktop: (The Ubuntu desktop system), section base, is optional. Version: 0.49 (breezy), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 36 kB10:07
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cthulfuego!dstats hoary10:07
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ubotuUbuntu Distro Stats on hoary... 16270 packages, 1437 maintainers, 31005 MB installed size, 9820 MB compressed size.10:07
synd_cthulfuego: is ubotu running on ubuntu?10:07
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cthulfuegosynd_: No, on Debian sarge ;-)10:07
synd_haha10:07
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poningruwhy haha?10:08
poningruubuntu is a desktop distro10:08
cthulfuegoponingru: No, it's not. See the 'server' boot args to the installer.10:08
poningrunot a server/embed/anything linux distro10:08
synd_poningru: no10:08
thoreauputiccthulfuego: shock! horror! *grin*10:08
umanIt's not like distros matter all that much10:08
umanhell10:08
umanyou could use Mandrake as a server if you really wanted.10:08
synd_linux is linux10:09
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umanexactly10:09
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poningruthats true but why would you use this for server10:09
umanyou could convert a mandrake install to look just like a debian install if you had the time and motivation10:09
synd_poningru: why not?10:09
umansome are just more easy to set up as secure servers.10:09
poningruit just has too many packages and other stuff10:09
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synd_poningru: not if you install the base10:09
poningruisnt the base just the kernel?10:10
poningruI am probably wrong10:10
thoreauputicponingru: the base server install is around 400MB or less i think10:10
Seveasponingru, ehm, you aren't making sense :)10:10
poningruguess not10:10
synd_: )10:10
Seveasubuntu-base is all you need to run a console linux system10:10
Seveasyou can easily add things from there10:10
poningruah ic10:10
synd_ugh i need to sleep before i smoke all my cigarettes10:10
poningrudont smoke cigs10:10
theD3viLWhy my mozilla-mplayer wonts play mpeg files or avi or whatever files ?10:10
Seveasto make eiter a server or  a desktop or an ltsp or a ...... system10:10
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concept10poningru, the base is all the tools and utils you need to have a working linux OS10:11
poningrugotcha10:11
synd_cthulfuego: sounds like ubotu's got a good life10:11
Seveasubotu is crap10:11
cthulfuegoponingru: base is essentially debian-base, if you add ubuntu-desktop, you get the desktop version with X and Gnome.10:11
ubotuSeveas: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?10:11
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cthulfuego!lart synd_10:12
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cthulfuegoeg10:12
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Seveashehe10:12
cthulfuego!lart Seveas10:12
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Seveasooh, kinky :)10:12
synd_wtf is VAXen !10:12
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Seveassynd_, read up on computer history..10:12
synd_:/10:12
cthulfuegosynd_: 1970's fridge sized pre-DOS computers.10:12
concept10omg, not a politically correct dpkg bot10:13
poningruhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAX10:13
synd_so when you gonna give ubotu AI?10:13
crazyhorse VAX 11/780 *swarming*10:14
synd_:>10:14
Lightyponingru: But I was having so much fun giving a mini-lesson of VAX computers! :-(10:14
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poningruhehe10:14
synd_!synd10:14
ubotuI heard synd is a badass10:14
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poningru!poningru10:14
ubotuponingru: I give up, what is it?10:14
synd_: )10:15
cthulfuegosynd_: ubotu is already smarter then most redhat users. What else do you want?10:15
poningruI thought that was a random phrase10:15
synd_ubotu forget synd10:15
ubotui forgot synd, synd_10:15
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synd_cthulfuego: does that mean its smarter than win users as well?10:16
crazyhorseokay, 10:15AM, gotta sleep now ;)10:16
cthulfuegosynd_: cabbages are smarter than windows users.10:16
LightyOh wow! I knew a lot about VAX systems, but I never knew this, "VAX is also a brand of wet-dry vacuum cleaners, invented in the 1970s by Alan Brazier. That brand's advertising slogan, "Nothing sucks like a Vax", was often applied wryly by users of VAX computers." (From the Wikipedia article.)10:16
thoreauputicsynd: by definition, of course10:16
synd_heh10:17
cthulfuego"as clever as a can of hair"10:17
poningrudid not know that10:17
synd_Lighty: wikipedia is amazing, eh?10:17
=== cthulfuego used to work on a VAX when he had an office job
cthulfuegobloody awful things10:17
synd_whatd you use em for?10:18
crazyhorseLighty, the slogan is as funny as this one http://lachschon.gamigo.de/screens/200506/JustinSane-1118915164.jpg10:18
Lightysynd_: It truly is. It's been one of my favorite sites for a couple years. I can totally lose track of time when I go there.10:18
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cthulfuegodata processing at a large market research company10:18
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cthulfuego(yes, they were hooked up to magnetic reel tapes)10:19
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synd_:10:19
synd_?10:19
synd_:/ *10:19
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Lightysynd_: They were awesome systems. They could run a bunch of different OS's, even simultaneously. (70's to early 80's that was a freaky thing for a computer to do).10:19
poningrukinda like x86 hmm?10:19
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synd_haha10:20
stevegriffquestion - I want to edit proftpd conf, and now I want to restart the proftpd app. Do I do "sudo proftpd restart" in /etc/init.d?10:20
cthulfuegoponingru: maybe not quite _that_ crap.10:20
synd_think the cell proc will make it into PCs?10:20
synd_or be a PS3 exclusive10:20
cthulfuegostevegriff: Yes, or "/etc/init.d/proftpd restart" from anywhere10:20
poningruimho it will def make it into pc10:21
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stevegriffRestarting ProFTPD ftp daemon.start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 14054: Operation not permitted10:21
poningruibm already promised to open up most of the specs iirc10:21
stevegriff:(10:21
stevegriffhmmmm10:21
cthulfuegostevegriff: sudo10:21
Lightyponingru: Have you seen an x86 boot more than one OS without one OS running inside of another?10:21
stevegriffcthulfuego - sorted thanks :)10:21
Addiushm.. I thought the cell had a problem with alround operations10:21
synd_poningru: they also promised a 3ghz g5 years ago, but that never happened ;p10:21
poningruLighty: it was meant to be a joke10:22
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poningrusynd: heh thats true10:22
Lightyponingru: Ahh!10:22
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DavyWho is Davy10:23
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synd_Davy: thatd be you10:24
poningruwtf10:24
cazabamif you don't know, davy, no one does10:24
LightyI am saving that in a separate text file. It's hilarious!10:24
cazabambash.org?10:25
cthulfuegoyeah10:25
LightyCool. I didn't know about bash.org.10:25
poningruwtf10:26
poningruI was just thinking about that10:26
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carlossmurfix, hi10:26
carlossmurfix, around?10:26
smurfixyo10:26
Lightyponingru: Now what?10:26
carlossmurfix, do you know when Xen will be available for Breezy? (if it's not already available...)10:27
Lightyponingru: Thinking about bash.org?10:27
cthulfuego!info xen breezy10:27
Addiuserhm, a quick question. Is there an option to install ubuntu so that the kernel stays in /src/ so that I may rebuild it? Had problems adding it later on.10:27
Lighty(Sorry about the now what. It came out more abrupt than I meant.)10:27
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cthulfuegoNo xen on breezy10:28
thoreauputic<Rods_Tiger> and it's just asked me "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"10:28
smurfixcarlos: no I don't, fabbione and mithrandir are working on it I think, I don't have much time at the moment10:28
thoreauputic<Rods_Tiger> and I typed "no" and it said "bash: no: command not found"10:28
cazabamaddius : what problems you had?10:28
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carlossmurfix, ok, thanks. I suppose mithrandir is the one to ask as fabbione already forward me to you and Mithrandir :-)10:29
Addiuscazabam: well it told me it was missing some folder when I tried to patch it10:30
cazabamyou can install the kernel sources, then untar them yourself10:30
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LightyG'night. I'm going to bed.10:32
kvidellsleep well10:32
Addiusyah, that's what I tried but I guess I missed something along the way, heh. I just found a howto in the wiki though so I'll try that one. Thanks though!10:32
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Addiusg'night10:32
zhiealllowww10:32
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cazabamaddius: still about?10:35
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slyhey all :)10:36
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finlaylabsanyone know if ubuntu partitioning allows encrypted reiserfs partitions?10:36
flipyhi!10:36
flipyI've ubuntu on a home server10:36
flipyand I access it via ssh10:36
flipyand I'd like to put some files to download with wget10:36
flipybut I've seen that wget cannot go to bg10:37
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flipyis there any way to have it on bg running multiple instances?10:37
cazabamjust use & at the end10:37
flipyit doesn't work10:37
cazabam!10:37
ubotuWish i knew, cazabam10:37
hyphenatedflipy: use a screen session10:37
flipysomeone told me about screen10:37
cazabamthat's a good plan10:37
cazabamuse screen10:37
dalebort_wget -b10:37
flipybut I didn't realized the purpouse of screen10:38
flipywget -b10:38
flipythanks10:38
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hyphenatedflipy: it's for running "things" on the box in a way that lets you disconnect and reconnect, and it won't lose them10:39
flipywow10:39
flipyso i'll have to check it out!10:39
flipythanks a lot!10:39
flipyhope see you around! :)10:39
cazabamscreen's cool - I just can't believe my brain is so tired I forgot about it!10:39
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cazabamI use it ALL THE TIME10:39
flipyxDDD10:39
flipyoh10:39
flipyany How-to?10:39
thoreauputicflipy: man screen is about the size of War and Peace ;-)10:39
hyphenatedgoogle for a few10:39
flipyok10:40
flipythanks!10:40
cazabamhttp://jmcpherson.org/screen.html10:40
hyphenatedcazabam: one thing that sucks is you start doing something, then wish you'd started it in a screen session when it's too late ;-)10:40
cazabamyeah, done that ;)10:40
Addiuscazabam: yah, sorry, was doing the last steps in the installation again10:40
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hyphenatedif it could hijack a shell you already have and then wrap it inside screen, it would rock10:40
flipythanks10:40
cazabampotential for many pranks, though :)10:41
zhieallooow10:41
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zhiealllow10:41
Install_Mansorry for the question, is there a separate channel for general discussion on ubuntu?10:41
hyphenatedInstall_Man: what's wrong with general discussion on ubuntu in this channel?10:43
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Install_Mansorry it's just that the topic makes it sound like this is a support channel primarily10:44
Install_Mani thought maybe there was another channel for general discussion10:44
flipythank you a lot thoreauputic hyphenated cazabam :)10:44
flipycya around10:45
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thoreauputicInstall_Man: you'd be surprised what gets discussed here at times ;)10:46
finlaylabscan a cd be 'bad' and still have chksum check out ok? On install I get 'Couldnt retrieve bsdutils'.10:47
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Addiushm.. I'm still wondering about how it handles the kernel. The only trace of the kernel is that found in  boot is it?10:47
cazabamyep, by default10:47
cazabamyou can install the kernel source after the fact, and make-kpkg to build your own10:48
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Install_Mani've heard there's a project that has already ported most of ubuntu to interix? does anyone know more?10:48
Addiusyah, then I get it. And I only need to copy the stuff to /boot/ "as usual with grub"?10:48
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Dalkuswhat's interix?10:49
cazabamif you use make-kpkg you get a .deb with the kernel, modules, etc in it. you just dpkg -i it10:49
finlaylabs'Checking package size:' goes over bsdutils ok10:50
Addiusok.. I use gentoo and openBSD on my own machines so I'm not really used to using pkg's, heh.10:50
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cazabamhehe ok10:51
Install_Maninterix is the unix subsystem for windows that microsoft uses, essentially a lot of openbsd code that turns windows into a posix system (compile unix programs directly to windows and run natively)....kind of like cygwin but faster and more integrated (no emulation)10:51
cazabaminstall_man: is it free?10:52
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Install_Mancazabam: yes, as in beer at least: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/sfu/default.mspx10:52
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BlueT_hello everybody :)10:52
thoreauputiccazabam: umm.. if Microsoft uses it, unfree for sure10:52
Nermalmorning10:52
forsaker8k6morning everyone :D10:53
BlueT_good morning/afternoon/night all around the wourld :p10:53
Addiusgood morning10:53
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cthulfuegothoreauputic: No, BSD != unfree.10:53
umanforsaker8k6: good morning10:53
umanforsaker8k6: it's about 2 AM here but heh10:53
forsaker8k6:) where are you from?10:53
thoreauputiccthulfuego: ah good point - true :)10:53
Install_Manuman: same here10:53
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cthulfuegothoreauputic: BSD =~ grab what you can and claim it's yours10:53
forsaker8k6here it's about 11 AM :)10:54
umanforsaker8k6: Arizona, USA10:54
thoreauputiccthulfuego: yes,, unfortunate really (I prefer GPL for that reason)10:54
pepsianyone using breezy?10:54
Nermalpepsi, yah10:54
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pepsiNermal, you have libx11-6 held back, right?10:54
Nermaldunno10:55
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Nermalnot updated for 3 weeks or so10:55
pepsioh10:55
umanforsaker8k6: what about you?10:55
cthulfuego!info libx11-6 breezy10:55
ubotulibx11-6: (X Window System protocol client library), section libs, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-20 (breezy), Packaged size: 689 kB, Installed size: 1372 kB10:55
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Nermalnew router is being a piece of shit10:55
forsaker8k6i'm from Italy :)10:55
Nermaland I need to get a wifi card for my machine10:55
Nermalor just sell the whole lot and buy a powerbook10:55
forsaker8k6unfortunatly i'd say10:55
cazabamthoreauputic: I meant as in beer - no chance of 'as in speech' really :)10:55
umanforsaker8k6: why?10:55
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umanforsaker8k6: why is it unfortunate that you live in Italy?10:56
BlueT_btw, there's a LoCoBot in my LoCoTeam channel, is that just a irclog bot or something else? :)10:56
forsaker8k6because of how things are going in politics..maybe you heard of Berlusconi ... :(10:56
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cthulfuegoBlueT_: eh?10:56
thoreauputicforsaker8k6: unfortunate for you, or for Italy ? *grin*10:56
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forsaker8k6for me and for Italy :)10:57
slyforsaker want to trade for a rainy britain ?10:57
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BlueT_cthulfuego: ins't there a ID "LoCoBot" in your locale team channel? @@?10:57
forsaker8k6mmm... rainy nritain eh ? let me think about :)10:57
finlaylabsor a smoggy Beijing?10:57
forsaker8k6:D10:58
pepsiNermal, update your stuff :) just dont upgrade libx11-610:58
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Nermalpepsi, no net connection on my breezy box10:59
pepsiaw10:59
Nermalplus.. breezy is v broken atm10:59
Nermalso not that inclined to update it10:59
pepsidoesnt seem too broken to me10:59
Nermalah...10:59
pepsiive been using it for weeks now10:59
Nermalfonts blew up and X blew up a while back10:59
forsaker8k6woa.. i'm jut trying out enlightenment e17.. i'd say it has great potentials10:59
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finlaylabscan a cd be 'bad' and still have chksum check out ok?10:59
Nermalfixable, but a PITA10:59
cazabamfinlaylabs: sounds like a media error more than a bad image11:00
pepsiNermal, yeah i did the x fix, but then i reinstalled later on and slowly upgraded everything and it worked fine without doing anything11:00
Nermalah11:01
finlaylabssuggest try #3 CD?11:01
Nermalcan you install breezy straight off or do you have to do a hoary install and upgrader ?11:01
Nermal-e11:01
Nermal-r11:01
pepsii used the colony1 iso11:01
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Nermalpepsi, colony1 ?11:01
cazabamfinlaylabs: you have tried several times and still not work?11:01
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finlaylabscazabam: twice. But first time chksum was bad. Think I opened a file (burner very sensitive!)11:02
cazabameep! no BURN-free?11:02
T6btw. the linux-headers-6.6.12-1 seem to be broken as its impossible to compile ipw210011:02
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T6^^11:02
T62.6-1211:03
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cazabamfinlaylabs: are you installing using the same drive that burned/checksummed the disk?11:03
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monolive_hi11:03
finlaylabsK3B, burn-free is disabled for some reason, I cant select it.11:03
finlaylabsno different drive. Different computer.11:04
cazabamhmm.. I have seen this with a Slackware install - my laptop drive showed errors but my desktop checksummed it OK11:04
cazabamturned out to be muck in the drive :)11:04
Nermalbob2, you about ?11:04
Nermalfinlaylabs, also make sure DMA is enabled11:05
finlaylabsI did clwean the drive between cd1 and cd2, just in case.11:05
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finlaylabsDMA?11:05
cazabamok :)11:05
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Nermalyeah... else it might balls uo11:05
Fabiangood morning11:05
cazabamnermal: why woudl DMA affect the ability to read11:05
cazabam*would11:05
Nermalcazabam, is he burning in linux ?11:05
cazabamyup11:05
Nermalburning in linux without burnfree or dma11:05
Nermalcould fsck the image up11:05
Fabianpfp: ya here already???11:05
cazabamchecksums OK though - that's the problem11:06
Nermaljust an idea11:06
Nermalcazabam, o11:06
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cazabamfinlaylabs: can you manually copy the file off the CD11:06
Nermalany #ubuntu ops about ?11:07
finlaylabsu mean like console cp the whole cd to the install HD?11:07
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monolive_yep11:07
monolive_how to install11:07
monolive_the livecd11:07
monolive_to HD11:07
Nermalyou don't ?11:08
monolive_i could create filesystem and install lilo11:08
Nermaljust download the install cd ?11:08
monolive_but is ther an automatic method to do it?11:08
monolive_i prefer the livecd11:08
thenukemonolive_: why bother doing something like that?11:08
monolive_becouse11:08
monolive_this livecd11:08
Nermaldon't make things harder than they have to be11:08
monolive_has the things i need (mono)11:08
Nermal"how do I put this screw in a wall with a hammer?"11:09
finlaylabscazabam: u mean like console cp the whole cd to the install HD? Then install somehow?11:09
umanbye all, I'm going to bed.11:09
thenukemonolive_: you can install mono and whatever to your ubuntu by yourself11:09
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monolive_ok11:09
Nermalmonolive_, knoppix have scripts to install to hdd.. not sure if ubuntu live has that11:09
monolive_oks Nermal, this scripts i was looking for11:09
thenukeNermal: that is because knoppix does not have an install-CD11:10
T6last itme i tried ubuntu live there wsnt such a script11:10
Nermalaye11:10
Nermal:|11:10
monolive_doesn't matter, i will create the filesystems11:10
monolive_and copy11:10
Nermalgfl11:10
thenukemonolive_: why dont you just use the install cd and THEN install any software you need, like mono?11:11
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cazabamfinlaylabs: no, just to see if there is a read error on that file - no need to copy the whole lot11:11
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cuanntiexhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii11:11
cuanntiexi'm confused neh????????????/11:12
monolive_oks thenuke, if there arent that scripts i will download the install cd11:12
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slyNermal where you from to use such things as * sye * ;)11:12
Nermalcuanntiex, not talking like that11:12
Nermalmonolive_, good plan :)11:12
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thenukethere are no scripts because there is no need for them11:13
Nermalah.. the logic11:13
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cuanntiexakoe ora ngerti koe ngmg apa/??????????????11:14
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thenukeNermal: did you mean my logic :) please tell me then what is the logic to have scripts to install liveCD into HD if there is install CD available11:14
thenukecuanntiex: english.11:14
finlaylabscazabam: ctl-alt-F3 tells me "cp: Read error: Input/output error". Havent tried a manual cp yet.11:14
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Nermalthenuke, no.. I was just admiring the simple logic behind such a reason11:14
cazabamfinlaylabs: stick the disk in your other machine (the one that burned it), then mount it and try to copy the file11:15
cazabamfinlaylabs: if that works then it is your drive11:15
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Addiusaff, got stuck on the first step11:18
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Addiusso, if I want to add the kernel-package, without having an internet connection, how'd I go about it?11:20
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cazabam|hungrynot sure if it's on the CD - apt-cache search should confirm if you have no repositories set up in sources.list11:20
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thoreauputicapt-cache policy would be easier11:21
Addiuspolicy?11:21
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Addiusnm, I read through manpages :p11:22
thoreauputicAddius: apt-cache policy tells you where stuff comes from, and status etc11:23
finlaylabscazabam: copies on write computer just fine. Maybe try slower burn speed (only used x4!)11:23
Addiusyah.. well it couldn't find the package kernel-package, oh noes.. erhm..11:23
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finlaylabsinstall computer recently had no prob with suse cd.11:23
cazabamfinlaylabs: yeah, slow it right down11:23
thoreauputicAddius: yeah, kernel-package would appear not to be on the CD11:24
finlaylabscazabam: ok will try that later (when Im not using computer! Using it seems to always corrupt the write).11:25
Addiusaff, this makes things complicated :p11:25
finlaylabsdo you know if ubuntu allows encrypetd reiserfs partitions? I got reiserfs ok but no option for encryption.11:25
thoreauputicAddius: archive.ubuntu.com should have all packages11:26
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Addiusok, any place special I should put them on the machine or will /tmp/ do just fine?11:27
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thoreauputicAddius: shouldn't matter - you will just do sudo dpkg -i to install11:27
thoreauputicAddius: but watch out for dependencies ;)11:27
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finlaylabscazabam: thanks for the help. cu later!11:28
thoreauputicAddius: make sure you install build-essential (that *is* on the CD I think)11:28
Addiusyah, I hope so..11:28
AddiusI could try doing that before I even try getting the kernel-package, heh11:29
thoreauputicAddius: it is - I just checked11:29
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thoreauputicAddius: definitely install that befor kernel-package11:29
thoreauputic*before11:29
cazabamfinlaylabs: k :)11:29
Addiusah, well it's installing it now11:29
Addiusnow to find the kernel-package in the archives11:30
DNAku-sanI just noticed I can't access my floppy in ubuntu :/11:30
microhaxodammit11:30
microhaxoi cant install enemy territory11:30
microhaxo./et-linux-2.60.x86.run11:30
microhaxoit says11:30
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microhaxosudo: /home/microhaxo/et-linux-2.60.x86.run: command not found11:30
DNAku-sanIs there any way I can access my floppy, it's really urgent11:30
thoreauputicAddius: it's in main11:31
thoreauputicDNAku-san: of course11:31
cazabammicrohaxo: chmod +x et-linux-2.60.x86.run11:31
AddiusIn main? isn't there only installers there?11:31
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thoreauputicDNAku-san: mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mount/point11:31
anissaHI11:31
DNAku-santhanks11:31
microhaxothanks11:31
microhaxoDAMMIT11:32
anissaASL11:32
cazabammicrohaxo: ?11:32
thoreauputicDNAku-san: you might need sudo for that command11:32
microhaxoFKIN KONQUEROR ALWAYS DOWNLOADING BAD CHECKISMS11:32
thoreauputicmicrohaxo: use wget11:32
cazabamhehe use firefox ;)11:32
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microhaxoI cant dload it11:33
microhaxoits a weird deal11:33
microhaxohere11:33
microhaxohttp://enemy-territory.4players.de:1041/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=30111:33
microhaxothere11:33
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DNAku-sanbrb11:33
microhaxoIf i click11:33
thoreauputicAddius: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/11:33
microhaxoit opens in KATE11:34
microhaxoif i save as11:34
microhaxoits a php file11:34
microhaxo?11:34
thoreauputicAddius: it's in that11:34
microhaxowtf11:34
Addiusthoreauputic: ah! I tried going through the dist =/11:34
Addiusthanks11:34
thoreauputicAddius: nah, pool :)11:34
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Addiuswell this seems more like it11:34
microhaxothere11:34
microhaxoi got it11:34
microhaxowget http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/4players/hosted/et/official/et-linux-2.60.x86.run11:34
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Addiusthoreauputic: I want the deb if I want to do the apt-get install don't I?11:35
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jaspHi !! I've a question! can anyone help me?? (about kernel)11:36
thoreauputicAddius: umm - if you download the deb you install it with " sudo dpkg -i <nameofdeb> "11:36
Addiusok, thanks11:36
stevegriffI want to install doom3 on ubuntu - do I just install it from the cd or...?11:36
thoreauputicAddius: apt is for automatic install/ dep resolution: local packages you use dpkg -i11:37
misakajasp - If we knew what your question was ...11:37
misaka;] 11:37
AddiusI like how this USB-hotplugging actually works though11:37
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cazabammicrohaxo: konqueror treats mime types weird, and the web server probably is misconfigured11:37
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seliniumHi all, for some reason, my printer will not work today. the printer is stopped and when you try to start it the application hangs. This has happened to other users but not as yet to me.. ANy ideas?11:39
Addiuswell that didn't take long.. okay, next step :p11:39
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shivan___hi , any one has already use pbuilder ? , i want to create a ubuntu-PIV repository, but the way to build all package is not clear for me11:42
jaspmy kernel is 2.6.10-5-386 and i want to use 2.6.11, but when i try to use the new image gnome don't start!!11:42
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jasp2.6.11 from kernel.org11:44
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ciocanelI'm having some problems with sound in vlc, cannot open /dev/dsp... can anyone give me a hint?11:45
thoreauputicciocanel: try sudo killall esd11:45
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ciocanelthoreauputic, nope, esd is not nunning11:46
Addiusthoreauputic: when I made an apt-get install for the linux-image it told me that it was already up to date, would that refer to the one that came with the kernel-package?11:46
thoreauputicAddius: I think you may be confused - kernel-package is for compiling your own11:46
thoreauputicAddius: kernel images are ready to go binaries...11:47
thoreauputiclinux-image, whatever11:47
AddiusI am certainly confused.. I'm just following the howto in the ubuntu-wiki :p11:47
Addiusbut okay, that step wasn't needed and I'll head on to the next, thanks :p11:47
thoreauputicAddius: what are you trying to achieve?11:47
Addiusthoreauputic: erhm, being able to patch and rebuild the kernel so I can get a zd1201 module working.. a pain I know =/11:48
thoreauputicAddius: to rebuild the kernel you need to install linux-source11:49
paxonHow to autostart in KDE?11:49
Riddellpaxon: autostart what?11:49
paxonRiddell, process?11:49
thoreauputicpaxon: put a script in ~/.kde/Autostart11:49
paxonThanks.11:50
microhaxobah11:50
microhaxoguys11:50
microhaxoi slept till 3pm should i just stay up the whole night11:50
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microhaxoits 5 am11:50
microhaxolol11:50
DalkusTry sleeping :P11:50
microhaxoi can11:50
microhaxobut its 5 am11:50
microhaxoshould i?11:50
Dalkusyes :P11:50
Addiusthoreauputic: yah, and when I tried it told me it was already up to date, which made me wonder11:50
microhaxoor should i stay up the rest of day and sleep at like 6?11:50
Dalkusmicrohaxo, your choice.... :\11:50
microhaxolol11:50
HrdwrBoBer 5am is counted as the whole night11:50
microhaxoyea11:51
microhaxoi kno11:51
microhaxoi figure at 8 am i will poop out :|11:51
poningrusleep at 611:51
microhaxoLOL?11:51
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microhaxoi figure11:51
paxonTy for reminding me, I should get some sleep in the coming days.11:51
microhaxoif i stay up till 811:51
thoreauputicAddius: dpkg -L linux-source*11:51
poningrumuch better11:51
microhaxoill sleep till 1011:51
microhaxoand be fine for the day11:51
Dalkusdon't keep that up for too long, microhaxo11:52
microhaxowhere does wget save things too11:52
microhaxoyea i know11:52
microhaxobad for me11:52
DalkusI used to do that pretty much every night, now I'm tired all day every day11:52
microhaxolol11:52
Dalkusand I'm sixteen....11:52
microhaxosucks11:52
Dalkus:\11:52
microhaxoim 1711:52
Nermalgood for you11:52
microhaxolol11:52
microhaxowhere11:52
Dalkusbut true geeks dont sleep :)11:52
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microhaxodoes wget save shit?11:52
DalkusUK.11:52
Dalkussure11:52
Nermalmicrohaxo, it downloads files yes11:52
thoreauputicAddius: actually, sorry try dpkg -l | grep linux11:52
microhaxouea11:52
microhaxowhere11:52
microhaxowhat folder?11:53
Nermalin the current directory11:53
Dalkuswherever you say11:53
poningruactually not so bad11:53
microhaxoah11:53
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Dalkuswget http://whatever.com/file.htm folder11:53
poningruyou just go noctornol after a while11:53
Nermal"directory"11:53
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Dalkusyou can specify a folder11:53
HrdwrBoBnocturnal11:53
poningruand hence the tiredness during morn11:53
microhaxoWTH is goin on11:54
microhaxoi dloaded a file with WGET11:54
microhaxoand it says md5 checksum bad!11:54
microhaxobs11:54
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seliniumhi there thoreauputic!11:55
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davidwquestion about the live CD's: do they use the same software as Ubuntu, or is it just a hacked morphix/something else?11:55
thoreauputicmicrohaxo: so it isn't konq's fault, evidently11:55
microhaxoyea11:55
microhaxoi guess11:55
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microhaxohow stupid are you to host a file that doesnt meat the checksum?11:56
davidwI'm curious because I would like to know if Ubuntu's NTPL implementation is broken like Debian's11:56
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Nermalmicrohaxo, as stupid as someone who can't spell "meet" ?11:56
seliniumthoreauputic: i seem to be having a similar problem printing as that chap yesterday! can you give me a hand?11:56
m0rphxdavidw: I think it's the same software11:56
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thoreauputicdavidw: warty used a morphix method, hoary is basically identical with the install CD11:56
Nermalmicrohaxo, bad download / bad ram ?11:56
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thoreauputicselinium: I seem to recall he did an "rmmod lp " ?11:57
forsaker8k6 anyone know which is the dev of a bluetooth connected hardware?11:57
microhaxoanyone have any alternate links?11:57
microhaxofor ET11:57
davidwthoreauputic, cool, I will test my bug out on that, then11:57
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davidwman, I wish I had about 5 or 6 machines just to play with:-/11:58
pepsimicrohaxo, what are you doing now?11:59
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microhaxore downloading11:59
microhaxoET11:59
microhaxo:|11:59
pepsifrom where?12:00
microhaxofileshack12:00
microhaxo:|12:00
microhaxoanyone got a FAST MIRROR?12:00
microhaxolike 700kb/s12:00
microhaxo?12:00
Nermalhush12:00
microhaxo:|12:00
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pepsii bet you'd settle for 200k/sec12:01
pepsiyou12:01
pepsi're desperate12:01
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davidwBRB12:01
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davidwah, utf-8 is better...12:02
seliniumthoreauputic:  not working for me :(  The printer willnot come on line, if i put the command in the application hangs. My other half gets this on her loggin, maybe it is a security thing? Not that I have changed anything.... I think..... :)12:02
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ivokshi :)12:03
ivoksi have one python related problem... could anyone halp me? :)12:03
housetieryes12:03
cazabamprobably :)12:03
thoreauputicselinium: does it only happen on her login?12:03
ivokswhen i start bledner for example, i get:12:03
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thoreauputicselinium: if so, she may not be in the right groups?12:04
ivoks'import site' failed; use -v for traceback \ No installed Python found.12:04
housetierivoks, with close to 10 billion people on this planet chances are high somebody might help you12:04
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Nermal6 billion12:04
seliniumthoreauputic: it used to, but now it is doing it on mine! I might have changed something in my groups yesterday... How do I sort it?12:04
microhaxohahaha12:04
microhaxo2mbit download from file planet12:04
microhaxo:D12:04
thoreauputicselinium: first type " groups" to see which ones you/she are in12:05
Nermalignore time12:05
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cazabamivoks: what version of python you have installed?12:05
ivokscazabam: 2.3 and 2.412:05
thoreauputicselinium: for reference, the first user would be in these -  adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin12:06
thoreauputicselinium: note the lpadmin group12:06
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TommyHHi, does anyone know how to increase the refresh rate of the remote desktop client?12:07
seliniumthoreauputic:  I have screwed my groups up, I have only got audio! How do I sort it. I am a dumb ass!12:07
thoreauputicselinium:  sudo adduser selinium lpadmin12:07
thoreauputicfor instance12:07
thoreauputicselinium: or you can do it in gnome as well (GUI)12:07
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davidwciao..12:08
seliniumthoreauputic:  For each one, or can i sudo adduser selinium adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin  ?12:08
thoreauputicselinium: note that the admin group has sudoers rights12:08
cazabamivoks: you have PYTHONPATH set?12:08
thoreauputicselinium: no that won't work :)12:08
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ivokscazabam: hm, no...12:09
zythwhat's the best way for me to install wine?12:09
Nermalapt-get install wine ?12:09
thoreauputicselinium: easiest to use the graphical method, or repeat the command by using the up arrow and editing the end of the line12:09
Nermalwith sudo obviously12:09
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seliniumthoreauputic:  I  sudo adduser selinium audio last night and now that is the only one.... What did i do wrong? can you tell?12:09
ivokscazabam: but that I don't need12:09
zythyes, but I don't know how to configure it, or is it automatically done?12:09
Nermaledit wine.conf I guess12:09
thoreauputicselinium: no I don't know12:10
cazabamivoks: how so?12:10
Nermalor install a tk frontend12:10
seliniumthoreauputic:  how do you use the gui to do it? Just interested :)12:10
ivokscazabam: on other machines i don't have PYTHONPATH12:10
ivokscazabam: and everything works..12:10
thoreauputicselinium: I'm in fluxbox :)12:10
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ivokscazabam: hm.. are we talking about env varibles or something else? :)12:10
seliniumthoreauputic:  Is it much better?12:10
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thoreauputicselinium: what?12:10
steobAnyone help a total newbie get his sound card workin on Hoary?12:11
cazabamivoks: yes, environment variable $PYTHONPATH12:11
cazabamhmmm...12:11
cazabamsame version of blender?12:11
ivokscazabam: check your export12:11
ivokscazabam: you don;'t have it either :)12:11
ivokscazabam: it's not only blender, all python apps12:11
Nermalsteob, should be working12:11
thoreauputicselinium: just do the adduser thing and add all the relevant groups, then logout/login12:12
seliniumthoreauputic:  Fluxbox12:12
cazabamivoks: oh, ok - it's just thatthere is a specific blender bug open for that...12:12
thoreauputicselinium: I like it - tastes vary ;)12:12
seliniumthoreauputic:  Cheers!12:12
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cazabamivoks: if you just type 'python'  do you get the python shell?12:12
ivokscazabam: well... this isn't blender bug :(12:13
seliniumthoreauputic:  send me a screenshot, if you can :)12:13
ivokscazabam: yep, 2.4.112:13
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thoreauputicselinium: well, an old cluttered one from last year :)12:13
cazabamivoks: what happens if you type 'import site;'12:13
seliniumthoreauputic:  OL12:13
seliniumthoreauputic:  Ok even12:14
steobNermal: it's not though - I'm trying to install alsa stuff as per Bug  209012:14
ivokscazabam: errors12:14
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microhaxoinstallin ET12:14
ivokscazabam: Traceback (most recent call last): \  File "<stdin>", line 1, in ? \ ImportError: No module named site12:15
microhaxothen ill play it a bit12:15
microhaxothen12:15
thoreauputicselinium: http://users.fishinternet.com.au/~peterg/screenshots/fluxboxfirefoxrox.jpg12:15
microhaxoBOOT to windows to play BF2 demo12:15
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notoshello does any one have stability problems with firefox?12:15
microhaxoDAMMIT thats it12:15
cazabamivoks: what files you have in /usr/lib/python... etc etc12:15
microhaxobullshit12:15
microhaxo...WARNING: could not set the given mode (4)12:16
ivokscazabam: just a sec...12:16
microhaxoReceived signal 11, exiting...12:16
ivokscazabam: i have wrong declaration of pythonhome12:16
cazabam:)12:16
seliniumthoreauputic:  pretty! I think I will stick with what I know (which isn't a great deal!12:16
thoreauputicselinium: or>> http://users.fishinternet.com.au/~peterg/screenshots/fluxfirefoxmenusint.jpg12:16
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dgtl hi everyone12:17
microhaxoWTF IS SIGNAL 11?W!12:17
microhaxoReceived signal 11, exiting...12:17
Nermalsegfault fool12:17
cazabamhi dgtl12:17
Nermalyou probably have dodgy memory12:17
Nermalwould explain the incorrect md5 sums12:17
microhaxoBullshit12:17
microhaxoYou are using software Mesa (no hardware acceleration)!12:17
microhaxo Driver DLL used: libGL.so.112:17
steobanyone help a newbie with alsa driver install?12:17
dgtlanyone know how to get the computer/file system on the desktop?12:17
microhaxoNO I AM NOT12:17
Nermalyes you are!12:17
Nermal;)12:17
seliniumthoreauputic:  when I tried to add myself to the admin group it said no such group. is this a problem?12:17
Seveasmicrohaxo, relax...12:17
microhaxoDAMMIT12:18
cazabamdgtl: how to you mean?12:18
Seveasyou either have bad memory or you installed some crappy stuff12:18
microhaxohow the @%@#% did my drivers go back to MESSA!12:18
Nermaldgtl, ummm... gconf-editor12:18
thoreauputicselinium: is sudo working ? Is this hoary?12:18
Nermalmicrohaxo, hush12:18
thoreauputicselinium: it didn't exist on warty12:18
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microhaxoMOTHERSUCKIN FLUGFIFALFFFFF@@@@@@@@@12:18
Nermalmaybe dpkg --configure -a12:18
dgtlNermal: ok, where's it located? (in gconf-editor)12:18
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Seveasmicrohaxo, please cool down a bit12:18
Nermaldgtl, one sec12:19
cazabammicrohaxo: did you install Nvidia drivers from tarball or from package?12:19
seliniumthoreauputic:  Hoary, maybe i mistyped something12:19
seliniumthoreauputic:  sudo is working12:19
cazabamdgtl: I'd have a look but I'm stuck on an XP box... :(12:19
Seveasselinium, it doesn't exist on hoary if you upgraded from warty12:19
Nermaldgtl, apps -> nautilus -> desktop12:19
Seveasselinium, but you can easily add it12:19
Nermaldgtl, and apps -> nautilus ->preferences12:19
dgtlNermal: thanks alot, it would have taken me ages to find that12:20
dgtl:)12:20
thoreauputicselinium: if you look at /etc/sudoers I think htere's a line that says the "admin" group has sudo rights by default -but if sudo is working I guess you are OK12:20
Nermaldgtl, is that what you wanted ?12:20
dgtlyeah12:20
seliniumSeveas: Cheers12:20
Nermaldgtl, :)12:20
Dalkussteob, http://12:20
Dalkuser12:20
Dalkussteob, http://ubuntuguide.org12:20
Dalkusthat has a guide on it, I think12:20
Seveasubuntuguide is bad12:20
Seveasit has no guides12:21
Seveasjust command listings12:21
steobI been there but my gcc aint working so I can't seem to compile anyhting12:21
cazabamubuntuguide ROCKS!12:21
Seveasguides explain things...12:21
DalkusSeveas, it still helps12:21
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NermalI think ubuntuguide is ok12:21
seliniumthoreauputic:  Seveas has just said if i up graded from warty it wont exist. So no problem12:21
Nermalbut it not as dynamic as the wiki12:21
steobgettin:12:21
steob/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc: command not found12:21
ivokscazabam: i located problem12:21
cazabamubuntuguide is good for 'post isntall checklist' :)12:21
Dalkussteob, sudo apt-get install gcc12:21
thoreauputicselinium: ah - OK :)12:21
Seveassteob, sudo aptitude install build-essential12:21
cazabamivoks: mm?12:21
ivokscazabam: thanks for idea with ENV variables12:21
steobwhich one?12:21
Dalkusyeah, do the second - sorry12:21
steobok thanks brb12:22
cazabamdid you have pythonhome pointing to 2.3 or something?12:22
ivokscazabam: this isn't my computer, but from one of my clients12:22
cazabamaaah12:22
Seveasubuntuguide is bad, fortunately the docteam is making a good version of it :)12:22
ivokscazabam: he put pythonhome in security/pam_env.conf pointing to his home :)12:22
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paxonAnd a book is coming you said.12:22
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thoreauputicNermal: ubuntuguide is like the curate's egg - good in parts ;)12:22
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Nermalthoreauputic, aye12:22
Nermalthoreauputic, can get out of date quickly though12:23
seliniumSeveas: where would we be able to see this new version. Or can't we yet?12:23
thoreauputicNermal: hence the rotten egg reference :)12:23
ivokscazabam: he even hardcoded to /home/user_name12:23
ivokscazabam: so for all users, it was /home/his_user_name :)12:23
Seveasselinium, not yet, it'll be released soon i guess12:23
ivokscazabam: hype brings this kind of people too :))12:24
cazabamivoks: how did he get into pam_env.conf anyway? bit odd for a wild guess?!?12:24
ivokscazabam: ah, he has root account :)12:24
cazabamthe bind moggle12:24
cazabams12:24
cazabamhe _has_ root, or he _is_ root?12:24
ivokscazabam: well pam_env.conf is place to define env variables12:24
ivokscazabam: but... this guy is crazy :)12:24
cazabamfair enough then :)12:24
seliniumCheers thoreauputic and Seveas: off for a reboot!12:24
Seveasselinium, why?12:25
thoreauputicselinium: hmm... just logout/login12:25
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Seveasone should only reboot on kernel upgrades :)12:25
paxonlol12:25
thoreauputicselinium: your groups should appear then12:25
seliniumCheers thoreauputic and Seveas: OK :)12:25
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Addiusthoreauputic: sorry about that, had to take a shower.. erhm, dpkg -l linux didn't find any packages anyhow12:26
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thoreauputicAddius: well, you wouldn't have the kernel / linux source on a default install12:27
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tiglionabbitgrah, I still have this problem12:27
tiglionabbitsome fonts do not show up in firefox12:27
thoreauputicAddius: so you definitely would have to install it: but if this is for a driver, you probably only need the headers anyway12:28
Addiusthoreauputic: hm.. so getting it from the archive then?12:28
tiglionabbithttp://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/selectors_attribute.htm  I can't see the things in the white areas on this page12:28
tiglionabbitwhat do I do about this?12:28
thoreauputicAddius: are you sure you need to recompile the whole kernel?12:28
forsaker8k6uff.. it's three days that i'm trying withouth success to switch my display manager from gdm to entrance...12:29
thoreauputicAddius: linux-headers-$(uname -r) would probably be enough...12:29
forsaker8k6anyone has done it before?12:30
Addiuserhm, that's what the guide tells me to, ack hehe12:30
thoreauputicAddius: which guide is this?12:30
Addiuserhm, moment12:30
Seveasguides that tell you to recompile a kernel ar bad guides in 90% of the cases12:31
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FikrannHello all12:31
Addiusthoreauputic: http://linux-lc100020.sourceforge.net/ (I've been trying to do the first step in their readme, which is patching the kernel, heh)12:31
thoreauputicAddius: umm.... try to find an ubuntu wiki guide if you can - that would be a generic guide12:32
SeveasAddius, you could better patch the wlan-ng driver and recompile that12:33
Seveasnot the whole kernel12:33
AddiusI searched the board and the only hits that told me anything was more or less the same as what that one12:33
Seveasor even easier: just use ndiswrapper and the windows driver12:33
Seveasthat'll save you from a lot of hassle12:33
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Church_of_FoamYi just got my ubuntu cd's in yesterday12:34
Addiusaff, I've had unpleasantries with ndiswrapper before.. it's something I've thought of though yeah, but I'd rather get this working12:34
Church_of_FoamY^_^12:34
Church_of_FoamYthey are so nice12:34
Church_of_FoamYfor free thats the best presentation of a product that i've seen12:35
Church_of_FoamYever.12:35
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SeveasAddius, ndiswrapper on Ubuntu works painlessly :)12:35
Addiusaff, tempting ;_;12:36
Seveas:)12:36
FikrannSeveas: this depends on a card and windoze driver quality. Not all cards work painlessly even if so advertised.12:36
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Seveassudo aptitude install ndiswrapper-utils linux-686 (linux-k7 if you're on AMD)12:36
SeveasFikrann, true...12:37
Addiushm, but still shouldn't be that hard just getting a kernel into /src/ so I can do whatever I want with it now and then.12:37
seliniumthoreauputic:  Works a treat... Just when I start to think i am getting the hang of linux, i realise how little I now!12:37
cazabamAnyone expert in acx100 wlan card problems?12:37
thoreauputicselinium: glad to hear it worked ! :)12:37
SeveasAddius, it isn't :)12:38
seliniumthoreauputic:  where are you in Aus?12:38
FikrannSeveas: I was once trying to set up ndiswrapper with m$ card on my friend's hardware .. it worked okay, as long as ESSID was MSHOME.. the driver was not accepting essid changes.12:38
Seveasapt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)12:38
thoreauputicselinium: there are Unix greybeards with 30 years experience still learning...12:38
Seveasrfol Fikrann :)12:38
AddiusSeveas: ah, the problem is, I don't have a internet connection yet12:38
SeveasAddius, ah :|12:38
thoreauputicselinium: about 90 km south of Sydney12:38
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NermalChurch_of_FoamY, hoary ?12:39
Seveasthat sucks, apt kinda counts in it12:39
Addiusotherwise I'd be done with this long ago, hehe12:39
Seveason*12:39
Addiusyah I know, I usually use Gentoo and portage without internet is just as close to worthless12:39
Addiushm..12:39
seliniumthoreauputic:  my brother is in Melbourne but is thinking of moving to Sydney. I'll get him to buy you a beer on the way through! :D12:39
Church_of_FoamYthe ubuntu hoary edition12:40
thoreauputicselinium: heheh12:40
Church_of_FoamYit works peachy12:40
glDaherI am using Network Monitor 2.10.0 ... applet for gnome, and I got a problem that is, whenever I change my dns settings to something, it is changed back to 10.0.0.x forgot the actual number, but it will come back to it sooner or later12:40
Church_of_FoamYand the product presentation is awsome12:40
glDaheris this some kind of settings in pppoeconf ?12:40
steobthanks - I got gcc so I can compile now but:12:40
steobwhen I do this alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a # ./configure12:40
NermalChurch_of_FoamY, the power of having a multi-millionaire behind a distro eh ?12:40
AddiusSeveas: just a thought, would downloading linux-image-'whatever' from the archive and then use dpkg -l on it work in my case?12:41
steobI get:12:41
Nermalsteob, don't paste too much12:41
steobok12:41
SeveasAddius, depends on wherher you grab the correct one12:41
Nermalor use pastebin.com12:41
Seveassteob, look at the topic12:41
steobfile /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist.12:41
Seveasuse paste.ubuntulinux.nl for large pastes12:41
steobis that too much?>12:41
steobok12:41
Nermalsteob, install the linux headers12:41
Seveassteob, aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)12:41
steobbeautiful thanks, brb (sorry!)12:42
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AddiusSeveas: it's all up to the dice then I guess :p12:42
NermalSeveas, nice line :)12:42
SeveasAddius, you want linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 (for intel)12:42
glDaherah here it is again, it is 10.0.0.138 :(12:42
SeveasAddius, you want linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7 (for amd (not amd64, but ndiswrapper wont work with that anyway))12:42
Addiusok12:43
YuWeihi all, i am new to linux, how can i play a .rm movie from another windows computer?12:43
SeveasYuWei: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats12:43
Seveaslook for realmedia on that page12:43
YuWeiok, thx12:43
FikrannglDaher: You shouldn't rely on gui tools to configure your system without glitches.12:43
AddiusSeveas: if I've been using the generic i386 untill now should I continue with that or go for the k7?12:43
SeveasAddius, go for K712:44
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steobok I got the headers, do I 'uname -r' now?12:44
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Seveassteob, ghe12:44
glDaherFikrann: I know, but it is the only place I could find the problem12:44
Seveasyou dhould have tyoped that command exactly :)12:44
Seveasaptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)12:44
steobi did - it didn't like the (12:44
steobahh, no space?12:45
AddiusDo you have that one on a speedbutton Seveas? :p12:45
Seveassteob, no12:45
steobdoh12:45
glDaherFikrann: btw, when I change it in the gui, it does work, but after a while no dns in any app and even ping couldnt' find google12:45
thoreauputicsteob: no space12:45
SeveasAddius, no :)12:45
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SeveasglDaher, dns server settings are managed by dhclient, and that can screw up things for you12:45
steobok gottit ta12:45
Church_of_FoamYno it not the power of having a multi millionare behind the distro12:45
SeveasglDaher, as root, edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf12:45
FikrannglDaher: put your dns info into /etc/resolv.conf, then chattr +i it.12:46
Seveasmake sure it does not request name servers12:46
SeveasFikrann, no12:46
Seveasthat's the bad way :)12:46
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glDaheroh12:46
Church_of_FoamYit the pwer of free minds being well.....free12:46
glDaherdhclient?12:46
FikrannSeveas: yes, but it's the fastest and most foolproof }:>12:46
Seveasdhclient, the program that gets you an ip address12:46
YuWeiseveas, i think i didn't make myself clear, i want to  play the .rm from another computer through the LAN.12:47
SeveasFikrann, that it is :)12:47
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Fikranndhclient3, even12:47
steobok still getting the kernel verion.h file does not exist?12:47
SeveasYuWei, ah :)12:47
steobversion even12:47
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SeveasYuWei, is the other pc running windows, and is the folder that contains the file a shared folder?12:47
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Church_of_FoamYan os shoulden't contain you or restrain you it should allow you to do what you want12:47
Fikrannsteob: go to /usr/src and unpack the tar.gz you'll find there.12:47
YuWeiyes12:47
steobok ty12:48
Church_of_FoamYubuntu does just that12:48
Seveassteob, you might have to manually ln -s /use/src/linux-2.6.10-something /usr/src/linux12:48
cheikhteste12:48
SeveasChurch_of_FoamY, bull...12:48
SlompWhat's special about Ubuntu?12:48
Church_of_FoamYhow you figure?12:48
Church_of_FoamYit just works12:48
catfoxhi all. any ideas why a kernel wont boot with no error output at all?12:48
Church_of_FoamYi know nothing of linux and it was easy for me12:48
Church_of_FoamYto install12:48
YuWeiSeveas, yes that computer running windows and share the .rm file in a share folder12:48
glDaherSeveas: nothing in there that I can do... I'll check resolv.conf12:49
Church_of_FoamYand learn to use12:49
SeveasChurch_of_FoamY, ah ok, i misunderstood you i guess12:49
cheikhhi12:49
Church_of_FoamYoh ok12:49
Church_of_FoamYlol12:49
SeveasChurch_of_FoamY, i though you meant Ubuntu is restricting you :)12:49
Church_of_FoamYdude i am totally for ubuntu12:49
Church_of_FoamYfuck no12:49
Seveassorry :)12:49
Church_of_FoamY^_^12:49
Fikranncatfox: Too little information to suggest anything.12:49
Church_of_FoamYdude i've used it for 2 monthes now12:49
Addiusnyuur.. it claimed that there where no packages that went with the image..12:49
Church_of_FoamYand i have never been happiyer with an os12:50
SeveasYuWei, go to the menu places-> connect to server and connect to the windows machine12:50
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Seveasand you also need a realmedia player installed, see that page I gave you for instructions on that12:50
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SeveasSlomp, the special thing about Ubuntu is that it just works, has a great release schedule, is both stable and recent and has a great community12:51
Seveasit simply rocks :)12:51
catfoxFikrann, thats all i have :) i tried to build a custom kernel, but when i boot it, i get past grub then nothing12:51
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Church_of_FoamYditto12:52
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Church_of_FoamYi have been able to hand out 50 ubuntu cd's to people places12:52
Church_of_FoamYand some of them love it12:52
snowblinkIs there an RSS viewer screen saver?12:52
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Scorpinfneed help. how do i split files with rar?, i want them 200mb rar r01 r02 etc...12:52
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Scorpinfi can't get it to work12:53
HrdwrBoBScorpinf: you don't12:53
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HrdwrBoBjust make it one large file12:53
Addiuswell atleast I found out that certain packages can't be installed from a portable medium, strange12:53
HrdwrBoBor use splut12:53
HrdwrBoBsplit12:53
newbhiehow can i properly unplug usb on hoary?12:53
snowblinkcatfox, initrd?12:53
newbhieumount does'nt kill the power supply12:54
catfoxsnowblink, hmm, didn't create one.12:54
Fikrannnewbhie: after you umount it, you can safely plug it out.12:54
steobok I owe people beers and stuff - now compiling my alsa stuff, thanks a bundle ;)12:54
thoreauputicAddius: they kind of can, but you need all dependencies to succeed - which can be *very* tricky12:54
SeveasScorpinf, rar on linux is nonfree, why not use tar and gzip?12:54
HrdwrBoBor bzip2 if you prefer12:54
snowblinkcatfox, give it a go with initrd in12:54
AddiusSeveas: erhm.. I installed the new linux-image, but it put everything directly into /boot/ o_O12:55
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SeveasAddius, it should :)12:55
newbhieFikrann:but my usb still lighting12:55
FikrannHrdwrBoB: bzip can't compress multiple files.12:55
andyNhi all12:55
catfoxsnowblink, will do, ta12:55
Fikrannnewbhie: yes, it will.12:55
ScorpinfSeveas: how do i work it?12:55
SeveasFikrann, that's what tar is for :)12:55
AddiusSeveas: okay, so I do my config and rebuilding there? o_O12:55
HrdwrBoBFikrann: neither can gzip12:56
SeveasAddius, ehm, no, for that yoy need the source package12:56
newbhieit will never harm my usb drive?12:56
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FikrannSeveas: or cpio. Or shar. or damn billion other compress&store programs.12:56
learn25hello evryone12:57
andyNcan anybody help me with a problem??12:57
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NermalandyN, just ask12:57
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andyNlearn25>>morning....12:57
AddiusSeveas: erhm, but I thought I already had installed the source package, ack, now I'm getting confused, isn't there just any tgz out there that I can tar out into /src/ and whatever I want with?12:57
learn25i downloaded dhcp using apt-get install dhcp. But it failed to start.12:57
learn25help12:57
andyNNermal: im trying to install SQL-Ledger..... do you know anything bout it??12:58
catfox snowblink now i get "mknod: failed to create /dev/console" i guess i've left something important out?12:58
NermalandyN, no :|12:58
Fikranncatfox: trying to install your own kernel?12:58
andyNNermal>>damn, thanx anyway....12:58
Nermallearn25, that would be the server12:58
Nermala dhcp client should be installed by defaut12:58
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learn25i want this to become a dhcp server12:59
Nermalo12:59
Nermal/etc/init.d/dhcp start12:59
andyNNermal do u know anything bout sql server settings??12:59
Nermalbut you'll need to configure it first12:59
peter__hi, i've installed ubuntu hoary on a sata disc, but I can't get DMA working. hdparm says: "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device", my chipset is using the via82cxxx module. Does anyone know how to enable DMA ?12:59
Fikrannlearn25: dhcp server won't start till you configure it properly.12:59
NermalandyN, only mysql12:59
catfoxFikrann, i am, aye12:59
andyNso if i asked u anything bout DBD-Pg??12:59
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Nermalerm. .no01:00
glDaherFikrann: it seem to have worked, I've changed my resolv.conf file ... and been like two min and it still work :D01:00
Fikrannpeter__: this module is for PATA chipset.01:00
catfoxFikrann, any ideas on that error?01:00
glDaherbut what could have been editing that file anyway?01:00
peter__Fikrann: sata_via is loaded aswell...01:00
glDaherit used to say servername 10.0.0.4001:00
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learn25anybody knows how to configure dhcp server?01:01
andyNdoes anybody know anything bout postgreSQL??01:01
GNULinuxerbob2, what package contains eclipse?01:01
learn25i just installed dhcp01:01
andyNlearn25: did u check the man pages??01:01
Nermallearn25, edit /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf01:01
newbhiedoes any known howto setup NIS?01:02
newbhieknow*01:02
Fikranncatfox: yes, I've seen it quite often, long long time ago when I first tried devfs.01:02
catfoxan right.01:02
andyNnewbhie: how long have you been using linux??01:02
Scorpinfhow do i split files in TAR ??01:02
Scorpinfi want them to be 200mb01:02
catfoxFikrann, i was thinking it might be something to do with ide support in the kernel01:03
newbhie2 months?01:03
newbhiewhy?01:03
catfoxFikrann, i don't have devfs in there01:03
NermalScorpinf, tar them, then use split :)01:03
andyNnewbhie: just asking, is it any good for you??01:03
newbhiei love linux right now.01:03
ScorpinfNermal, can i unpack it in windows later?01:03
NermalScorpinf, erm.. dunno01:04
karlosandyN - 'bout a year now01:04
newbhiespecially gconf editor.01:04
andyNkarlos: and u like it??01:04
Scorpinfthat's my problem i want to move a 6GB file to a FAT32 partition01:04
andyNnewbhie: u into programming??01:04
karloslots - would never go back to M$01:04
andyNkarlos: same here, just a shame it doesnt really like games....01:05
newbhieyup, but i can't install wxwindows...coz it looks for x libs.01:05
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newbhieso right now im setting up openmosix+nis+ltsp.01:05
andyNnewbhie: ok, u into development??01:05
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Church_of_FoamYi have been able to play UT04 steam half life counterstrike01:06
Seveasnewbhie, install wxwindows from the repositories...01:06
newbhieyup.01:06
karlosthat's true, or audio apps, i've been having headache getting midi working for months now01:06
Church_of_FoamYand i haven't had much isshues01:06
Church_of_FoamYi am totally using ubuntu now01:06
newbhiei dont have connection at home..01:06
newbhieso im just on cafe right now.01:06
blahso am I01:07
Fikrannnewbhie: wxwindows is kind of pointless without X.01:07
Church_of_FoamYshould bring you box thee and ask if you can hook it to there pipe01:07
mikasScorpinf, 'rar a -v200000k foo.rar files to be rarred' or something likethat.. and maybe -m0 so it doesn't compress it if it is unnecessary.. type rar and it lists you all the options01:07
andyNnewbhie: would u be interested in helping with a project??01:07
newbhiewhy did you say so?01:07
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andyNkarlos: do u do development work??01:07
newbhiebut where busy with our ltsp+openmosix thesis.01:07
blah(making ...)01:08
newbhieandyN:you can email me at grexk@yahoo.com01:08
karlosis anyone here familiar with jack,alsa,midi and so on01:08
karlosandy: no01:08
newbhieso i can join u...wat would be the project?01:08
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andyNnewbhie: thanx, ill mail u soon and explain the project.01:09
ivanox_what project? Im curios :)01:09
NermalChurch_of_FoamY, good to hear01:09
blahproject? (how to making ... in ....)01:09
topylianyone in search of a project, port worms armageddon to linux. i'll put a $20 bounty on it :)01:10
blaho.o01:10
andyNivanox_: its a small project... u into development??01:10
blahpoisoner01:11
Scorpinfmikas, THANKS :-)01:11
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mikasScorpinf, np01:11
topyligood old rar to the rescue! :)01:11
andyNtopyli: u mentioned worms.... u busy with the project??01:12
blahbackhand is here...01:13
ivanox_andyN, no sorry.01:13
topyliandyN: no. i used to be addicted to worms so i'd just like to see it happen :)01:13
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notosHas any one experienced Problems win firefox 1.04 like freezing?01:13
catfoxi think i've tracked the problem down to tmpfs not being enabled. but tmpfs doesn't show up in my menuconfig options. anyideas what it depends on to be enabled?01:14
steobsorry back again - I've managed to compile the ALSA drivers & libs but trying to ./configure the utils I get...01:14
steobconfigure: error: this packages requires a curses library01:14
andyNivanox_: we always need testers.01:14
topyliandyN: http://www.wormux.org/en/index.php =)01:14
ivanox_ok I can be a tester01:14
blah(found by.... XX?)01:14
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andyNtopyLi: thanx... ill check it out.... i also loved worms01:15
Fikranncatfox: its in the submenu in filesystems, the same place where you can enable devfs.01:15
catfoxFikrann, yeah in pseudo filesystems. but it's not in the list01:15
gccguys i got warty , i refrshed my apt pack list and i see that still the packs are out of date what can i do?01:15
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ivanox_worms the game? or worms that spreds like viruses?01:16
thoreauputicsteob: sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev01:16
catfoxFikrann,  it's not showing up, which i think means it depends on something else which isn't enabled?01:16
andyNivanox_: the game actually....01:16
topyliivanox_: windows users get to have both01:16
steobthanks thor01:17
ivanox_andyN, ok cool01:17
ivanox_topyli, yeah I know ;)01:18
thoreauputicsteob: if you get errors like that, 99% sure you need a -dev lib (apt-cache search is your friend)01:18
newbhiecan i use Gconf to change the behavior of Gnome archiev manager? Coz i been looking for it in Gconf?01:18
andyNivanox_: check out the site topyli pasted01:18
newbhieor other ways...01:18
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steobthanks thor - total newbie to linux (u don't need to be sherlock to figure that out)01:19
topylinewbhie: look at apps/file-roller01:19
newbhieandyN have you started the project u mention?01:19
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steobok installed ALSA stuff - anything else anyone can suggest before I reboot and see if the sound works?01:19
newbhietopyli: thanks for the info..01:20
andyNnewbhie: in the process of taking over01:20
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andyNnewbhie: i got a site if u want to check it out.01:20
Church_of_FoamYhttp://ubuntuforums.org/journal.php?do=showjournal&j=6401:20
karlos-I have a problem -- whenever I open JAMIN my QJACKCTL crashes...all the buttons and widgets disappear -- any ideas??01:21
steobok ty for the help, wish me luck01:21
Fikranncatfox: look for Virtual Memory File System (former shmfs)01:21
andyNkarlos: get windows!! hehehe, no, seriously, DONT!!01:22
Church_of_FoamY::::shivvers::01:22
karloscheers -- I nearly did01:22
karlosperish the thought01:22
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catfoxFikrann, not there either. i'm gonna restart the whole config process.01:24
Fikranncatfox: which kernel version are you trying to install?01:24
catfox2.6.1101:24
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andyNcatfox: hi, u into development??01:25
Fikranncatfox: Virtual memory file system in Pseudo File Systems in File systems.01:26
catfoxandyN, not kernel stuff. i'm a python programmer01:26
newbhiecatfox:wow01:26
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catfoxFikrann, yeah, i've looked up in the .config file where they are, but they're not showing up in a make xconfig01:26
kvidellBryan Cantrill is a hillarious little man.01:27
andyNcatfox: python.... so u can do sites aswell??01:27
catfoxFikrann, :) just starting out really. went for a job as linux tech support, but got a job as a developer01:27
kvidellI saw him speak today. Was hillarious :)01:27
Fikranncatfox: ditch xconfig, use menuconfig.01:27
kvidell(He wrote DTrace in Solaris 10/11-OpenSolaris)01:27
catfoxandyN, have done some. learning zope/plone at the moment01:27
FikrannMmmm... Plon.01:27
Fikrann*Plone01:27
newbhiecatfox zope/plone?01:27
andyNcatfox: sweet.....01:27
catfoxnewbhie, zope is an application server written in python (zope.org) and plone is a cms ontop of it (plone.org)01:28
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Fikrannnewbhie: look at www.plone.org01:28
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newbhiethanks for the info...just new to world of linux..huhuhu01:29
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andyNcatfox: u interested in helping with a project??01:30
SeveasandyN, this in not #getyourprogrammershere01:30
Fikrannhehe01:31
shanonSeveas: 8)01:31
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catfoxandyN, what's the project? i don't have much spare time these days with lots to learn :S01:31
newbhielol : )01:31
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Seveashave you cooled down a bit? :)01:32
andyNcatfox: a small linux project, but dont worry, if u dont hav time....01:32
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Thomas2Hi ... CAn anyone give me a hint which http port ubuntus squid runs on?01:32
newbhiecatfox are you one of the author of that CMS?01:32
catfoxandyN, maybe in the future i'll be able to help out01:32
FikrannThomas2: 808001:33
stimpieThomas2, netstat -ln01:33
catfoxnewbhie, nope, we just use it at work for some of our systems01:33
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FikrannOr anything you configure it to run at.01:33
newbhieso your on LAMP also?01:33
microhaxoyea01:33
microhaxoim fine now01:33
microhaxobut Enemy Territory says im using mesa when i have ATI installed and working GLXGEARS 7000fps01:34
Seveasmicrohaxo, read the ET manual then01:34
Seveasprobably you need to change some settings01:34
microhaxoi cant even get into it01:34
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microhaxothis may sound stupid01:34
microhaxobut01:34
FikrannYou don't need to run the game to read it's manual.01:35
microhaxoi cant see the folder where it extracted it01:35
microhaxo:|01:35
Seveashehe :)01:35
microhaxoi think its hidden01:35
microhaxolol01:35
catfoxFikrann, thanks for the help before, i think i'm almost there now :)01:35
Seveasmicrohaxo, in the file manager: view -> show hidden files01:35
Fikranncatfox: You're welcome. }:>01:35
microhaxok01:36
microhaxo:D01:36
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newbhiefikrann: can i ask sumthin, if you mine?01:37
microhaxothis is odd01:37
microhaxoETWOLF folder01:37
microhaxowith nothing in it01:37
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microhaxolol01:37
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Fikrannnewbhie: You can ask, but I'm not a mine.01:38
newbhielol, are you linux guru?hehe01:38
newbhiemaybe, you could help me out if i get mess with my Hoary...01:39
FikrannEight years of experience as a Linux admin. So not guru yet.01:39
newbhiewaaaaaaaaa.....01:39
GNULinuxerFikrann, not a newbie, not yet a guru01:39
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GNULinuxerFikrann, that's me/you01:39
newbhieI have only use linux for 2 months...lol01:39
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microhaxoseveas how do i change this01:40
microhaxoGL_RENDERER: Mesa GLX Indirect01:40
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Fikrannmicrohaxo: read the fine manual you got along with your game.01:40
Seveasmicrohaxo, no idea01:41
Seveasi don't play ET :)01:41
microhaxobecause for some reason im using ATI for 2d it seems and opengl or 3d is mesa?01:41
cazabammicrohaxo: does GL stuff work for everything else?01:41
microhaxowth01:41
newbhieFikrann: so what other tool i can use to manage user on network? some sort of NIS.01:41
microhaxoyea01:41
microhaxoNExiuz01:41
microhaxothats it01:41
microhaxoout of 3 games i have01:41
microhaxothats the only one that works01:41
microhaxolol01:41
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SS2hello all how can i umunt a device although its still busy? (always get that error)01:42
SS2doing sudo umount -f01:42
Choubakayou shouldn't.01:42
SS2do you mean me?01:42
SeveasSS2, close everything that has files open on that drive...01:42
Choubakayes. make sure you don't have any programs open accessing files in the mountpoint01:42
SS2well everything is closed01:43
SS2but still busy01:43
andyNss2: when everythings closed, try umount again...01:43
SeveasSS2, lsof | grep /mount/point01:43
SS2nothing came out01:43
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microhaxoWow01:43
microhaxoGL_RENDERER: Mesa GLX Indirect01:43
ChoubakaSS2: you didn't copy that verbatim? :P01:44
SS2yes i did01:44
microhaxo"Bottom line...You must recompile your kernel with an appropriate apgart module and the Direct Rendering Manager module for Ati Radeon. "01:44
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ChoubakaSS2: well, duh. :P01:44
SeveasSS2, replace /mount/point with the real mountpoint..01:44
tecywiz121hi, I am wondering if it is possible to get java  in ubuntu and how?01:44
cazabammicrohaxo: recompile kernel? sounds a bit fishy01:44
Seveastecywiz121: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 01:44
cazabamtecywiz121: check ubuntuguide.com and see the appendix - full instructions01:44
tecywiz121ok thx01:44
Seveascazabam, ubuntuguide sucks wrt java...01:45
cazabamworked for me01:45
SS2seveas what should i replace? i just type in /media/forxtern to umount cause its mouted there01:45
SS2mounted01:45
Seveasthe only way java will continue working even with breezy is using make-jpkg01:45
FikrannSeveas: Java generally sucks01:45
SeveasFikrann, ack01:45
SeveasSS2, lsof | grep /media/forxtern01:45
SS2thx01:45
FikrannSS2: you must switch to another directory01:46
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cazabamseveas: in what way does ubuntuguide suck wrt java? (just wondering - seems fine to me)01:46
FikrannSS2: always do cd / before you umount something.01:46
Seveascazabam, bad instructions01:46
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tecywiz121cazaban: Oh, I also have 64-bit does that make a difference? Last time (with fedora) I had to get firefox for i38601:47
cazabamseveas: oh. just says add backports and so the right 'apt-get install' - I followed them just yesterday and it worked :)01:47
Seveascazabam, if you do it 'the ubuntuguide way', things will break if you start using multple versions of java or gcj (gcj will be introduced as obligatory in Breezy)01:47
Seveascazabam, these instructions are fine :)01:47
Seveasthe backports repo has a good package01:47
Seveasbut backports generally suck01:47
SS2fikrann: so now i went out of the directory in the console and tryed it, nothing went01:47
cazabamtecywix121: ok, just follow these instructions - didn't know about the gcj problem01:48
SeveasandyN, for the last time: this is not a programmers recruiting channel01:48
cazabamlooks like I'll be re-fraggling my java packages tonight...01:48
Seveasand jumping into provate chats is impolite01:48
SS2fikrann: but typing lsof | grep /media/forxtern brought me: gam_serve 8245      simon  183r      DIR       3,11     4096     97345 /media/fo rxtern/testzone01:48
andyNSeveas: sorry..... just trying to get help...01:48
SeveasandyN, try getting it somewere else..01:48
afonichi there01:48
tecywiz121cazabam, sry but I have to go... l8er mabye01:48
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afonicI have a weird problem descibed here:01:49
afonichttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4227701:49
andyNSeveas: i sense alot of hostility..... lol01:49
SeveasandyN, not really01:49
afonicI thought maybe any of you guys have something to suggest..01:49
Seveasbut this is an Ubuntu help channel and you're creating noise01:49
andyNSeveas: you have to understand, im struggling with stuff.... do u know postgreSQL??01:50
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ChoubakaSS2: sp. that gam_server is reserving it :(01:50
FikrannSS2: run kill 824501:50
SeveasI have warned you...01:50
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SS2choubaka: what is gam_server?01:50
ChoubakaI have no idea :|01:50
Choubakasomething gnome-related.01:51
SeveasSS2, it's a system process that can let other processes know when files have changed01:51
Choubakaah, it's gamin?01:51
Seveasfor instance to instantly refresh desktop and nautilus windows01:51
SeveasChoubaka, yes01:51
ChoubakaI see.01:51
SS2so thanks all it worked:)01:51
cazabamgam_server is part of gamin file alteration monitor01:51
SS2ok never heard of it01:52
Choubakamounting and unmounting is a bit confusing01:52
newbhieman mount and umount01:52
Choubakaespecially when there can be some obscure app reserving the resource like in this case.01:52
newbhieinfo also01:52
Choubakanewbhie: I know how to use them thogh.01:53
FikrannSS2: gam is a (smarter) replacement for FAM01:53
albackerroot@galaxy:/mnt/hda5/BOOKS_eni/libra_te_marra_nga_ftp_html_etj # acroread unix.PDF01:53
albacker/usr/bin/acroread: line 12: /usr/lib/Acrobat5/bin/acroread: No such file or directory01:53
albackeri have acroread installed..01:53
Choubakanewbhie: but it doesn't make mounting any less confusing01:53
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Seveasalbacker, there is a small error in the acroread package01:53
newbhiemount "device" "mount point"01:53
albackerSeveas any idea of what to do ?01:53
Seveasalbacker, can you type the following command and paste the output on paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:54
newbhieumount "device or mount point"01:54
Seveasslocate acroread01:54
albackeri installed acroread with apt-get. than removed and reinstalled the packages again. but the same problem01:54
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Choubakanewbhie: I know. But think about it: You've closed all apps, and it still complains the resource is busy, even though no program is _obviously_ using it.01:54
ChoubakaThis is where a newbie would reboot.01:54
Seveasalbacker, errors in packages don't magically go away when reinstalling them :)01:55
Seveasjust type that command and put the output on the pastebin site, i'll teell you what to do next01:55
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albackeri dont have slocate01:56
newbhieah, I'm experiencing that also but after a minute i can umount the device...01:56
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afonichi there, I have a weird installation problem descibed here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4227701:56
afonicany hints?01:56
albackeror is it locate : Seveas01:56
Seveasalbacker, have you installed ubuntu in a very weird way..?01:56
Choubakanewbhie: the minute is too long :/01:56
Seveasafonic, if someone had hints, (s)he would have said it, please do not repeat so quickly01:56
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Choubakait would be cool if umount could inform apps and tell them to release their hold of a particular resource.01:56
afonicsorry, nobody replied so I thought you didn't read it01:57
Choubakaespecially some monitors, like gamin01:57
Seveasafonic, try the mailing list if no one in here answers, the smart people aren't in the forum but on the mailing list01:57
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LokeDKI've installed mplayer with apt-get but when i try to play a movie it crashes with the error MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_audio01:57
afonicthx dude, will do that too01:57
albackerSeveas, root@galaxy:/mnt/hda5/BOOKS_eni/libra_te_marra_nga_ftp_html_etj # whereis acroread01:57
albackeracroread: /usr/bin/acroread /usr/share/man/man1/acroread.1.gz01:57
FikrannChoubaka: pmount might one day be able to do it, via dbus.01:57
ChoubakaThat'll be nice.01:57
Seveasalbacker, whereis and slocate are different things01:57
Seveastry locate if slocate doesn't work, but slocate should be there...01:58
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Choubakausability goes up as unmounting and mounting becomes more transparent :)01:58
SS2one question: how cann i permanently kill esd? it always runs that i cant listen with alsa01:58
albackerSeveas, locate gives an error01:58
SeveasSS2, system->prefs->sound01:58
FikrannSeveas: slocate is not mandatory package. Locate is.01:58
Seveasmake sure enable sound server startup isn't selected01:58
albackerroot@galaxy:/mnt/hda5/BOOKS_eni/libra_te_marra_nga_ftp_html_etj # locate acroread01:58
albackerlocate: /var/cache/locate/locatedb: No such file or directory01:58
Seveasalbacker, argh, you never ran updatedb :)01:59
Seveasalbacker, run: updatedb01:59
Fikrannalbacker: run updatedm01:59
stimpiealbacker, run: updatedb&01:59
SS2ok its checked thx01:59
albackerSeveas, i have dialup01:59
Seveasas root, and wait, it takes some time01:59
Choubaka:P01:59
Seveasupdatedb does nothing with internet01:59
albackerreally ?01:59
Fikranneh, listen to Seveas01:59
SeveasFikrann, ubuntu-desktop depends on slocate...01:59
Seveasso slocate is part of the standard install...01:59
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ChoubakaHmm01:59
FikrannSeveas: Somehow, I had to install it manually...01:59
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ChoubakaWill Breezy ship with beagle integrated?02:00
SeveasFikrann, maybe you don't have ubuntu-desktop installed02:00
SeveasChoubaka, yes02:00
Choubakacool.02:00
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desplesdawoo! will the breezy kernel have inotify properly configured?02:00
ChoubakaI tried installing beagle from backports, but it failed :P02:00
SeveasChoubaka, that's because backports suck02:01
Choubakasince it had the dependencies properly fscked up :D02:01
albackerSeveas, usr/bin/find: /proc/29179/task/29179/fd/4: No such file or directory02:01
albacker/usr/bin/find: /proc/29179/task/29179/fd/4: No such file or directory02:01
albacker/usr/bin/find: /proc/29179/task/29179/fd/4: No such file or directory02:01
zerokillssup guys02:01
FikrannChoubaka: backports Should Be Avoided (TM)02:01
ChoubakaYeah.02:01
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Seveasalbacker, wtf are you doing..?02:01
mjreiks nime saanut ainakin jossain vliss muutettua hetulla?02:01
mjreihn se toki muuta ku vittuilua, mutta enivei ;)02:01
albackerupdatedb02:01
newbhiecan I install kubuntu on hoary by downloading the ISO?02:01
Demian___after a few days ubuntu gest a lot slower. Can I clean the memory or something. So make it go faster without restarting?02:01
Fikrannalbacker: ignore these messages02:01
Seveasmjr, we speak english in here...02:01
mjrumm, wrong channel :)02:01
Seveasnewbhie, just do aptitude install kubuntu-desktop02:02
Choubakamjr: heh :P02:02
Seveasthat'll save you time02:02
albackerSeveas, : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/10302:02
waxheadanyone using netbeans by any chance?02:02
ChoubakaDemian___: huh, slower?02:02
FikrannDemian___: log out and in again.02:02
newbhiethanks Seveas...02:02
mjrSeveas, 02:02
Demian___do I have to restat any progs then?02:02
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Demian___cause then I might just as wel restart02:03
Seveasalbacker, open /usr/bin/acroread in a text editor as root02:03
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SlompWhat is the point of running Kubuntu? The whole point of Ubuntu is that everything's setup nicely and it works with a pretty interface... If you're running Kubuntu, you might as well just run debian and select your own packages02:03
Seveasalbacker, go to line 1202:03
Slompor run Mandrake02:03
ChoubakaSlomp: No.02:03
cazabamslomp: kubuntu has exactly the same philosophy, just with KDE rather than GNOME02:03
ChoubakaKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE.02:03
SlompYES02:03
Choubakafor KDE people.02:03
SlompDuh, I know it's got KDE02:03
cazabamin fact, I installed ubuntu, then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, so I have both :)02:03
Slompbut02:03
cazabamstill ubuntu02:04
FikrannDemian___: if you re-login most probable sources of any problems get restarted02:04
SlompKubuntu isn't Ubunutu02:04
Seveasalbacker, and change /usr/lib/Acrobat5/bin/acroread to  /usr/lib/Acrobat5/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread02:04
zerokillsi have gnome, kde, and xfce02:04
Choubakayes it is02:04
SeveasSlomp, it is :)02:04
cazabamyes it is02:04
Demian___Fikrann, thnx02:04
SlompWhat makes it Ubuntu?02:04
slyby chance is there a apt-get ubuntu cos i want to do it the other way round02:04
SlompWhat "ubuntifiez" it?02:04
zerokillsmy preferred choice is xfce02:04
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ChoubakaKubuntu = kubuntu-desktop metapackage02:04
newbhieSlomp: Gnome is a great window manager but it lacks of application...02:04
albackerSeveas, thanks02:04
SlompIf I paint my penis a certain colour will it be Ubuntu?02:04
SeveasSlomp, it just has a different set of packages installed by default02:04
Dalkusnewbhie, you can run kde apps in gnome02:04
Seveasbut they use the same repositories and are 100% interoperable...02:05
albackerSeveas,  # acroread unix.PDF02:05
albacker/usr/lib/Acrobat5/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread must be executed from the startup script.02:05
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zerokillsyea slomp, paint it purple02:05
Rockett17haha02:05
cazabamslomp: you can install kubuntu and then ubuntu-desktop too02:05
ChoubakaSlomp: No need to troll ;P02:05
cazabamslomp: not sure about penis-desktop though...02:05
SlompSaveas: But the reason Ubuntu /is/ Ubuntu is cause it has a certain setup and a certain set of packages which make it all come together as one solid graphical experience.02:05
sly^ thats answer to what i just asked , cheers :)02:05
Fikrannnewbhie: GNOME is NOT a window manager.02:05
waxheadit's ok.. i think it was the nfs file system I was using in netbeans...02:05
ChoubakaSlomp: Yes, Ubuntu is that too.02:05
Seveasalbacker, then change   /usr/lib/Acrobat5/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread to /usr/lib/Acrobat5/bin/acroread.sh02:05
Choubakaerr, kubuntu02:05
SlompSo what makes it Ubuntu then?02:06
Choubakakubuntu is just a solid collection of packages from the KDE world.02:06
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ChoubakaThe philosophy. and that it's part of the ubuntu project.02:06
Loki_VAhi people02:06
cazabamthere is only a 111Mb difference to add kubuntu-desktop to ubuntu02:06
cazabamand KDE is about 100Mb...02:06
desplesdait's running the ubuntu base system, but runs KDE rather than GNOME02:06
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desplesdasame setup and maintenance02:06
newbhieKDE or GNOME...KDE is memory killer/ GNOME still in stage of application shortage?02:06
desplesdajust a different UI02:06
albackerSeveas,  # acroread unix.PDF02:06
albackerERROR: Cannot find installation directory.02:06
Choubakanewbhie: wtf?02:07
Seveasalbacker, hmmmmmm02:07
Choubakathere's loads of apps for Gnome :|02:07
Seveaswhere did you get the acrobat reader package from02:07
zerokillsbrb02:07
ChoubakaLoads.02:07
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newbhieThats why I will be using Gnome to run KDe apps.02:07
ChoubakaTell me one software you can find for KDE but not Gnome? :/02:07
ivanox_anyone can hint me on cool desktop apps for gnome?02:07
Seveasnewbhie, please get some clue, there are lots of Gnome applications :)02:07
newbhieor xinit...lol then metacity...02:07
FikrannChoubaka: amaroK!02:07
albackerSeveas, from the repos. using apt-get. i think we have to edit /usr/lib/Acrobat5/bin/acroread.sh02:07
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Seveasalbacker, *which* repos?02:08
newbhiebuiltin chm viewer...02:08
ChoubakaFikrann: there's loads of apps like that for Gnome :P02:08
albackerSeveas, install_dir=REPLACE_ME  << in the .sh file02:08
Choubakachm viewer. I have seen one in gnomefiles.org.02:08
RiddellChoubaka: k3b02:08
Seveasalbacker, lol :) omg, where the hell did that package come from?02:08
FikrannIMO, not as good as amaroK. *pets her beloved sound player*02:08
ChoubakaGnomebaker?02:08
newbhiei tried to alienize some sort of gnomechm...but i does'nt work.02:08
Rockett17heh02:08
SeveasFikrann, Choubaka newbhie please stop the gnome/kde war02:09
FikrannChoubaka: It should be named Gnomebreaker };>02:09
Choubaka:P02:09
Seveasyou are creating noise...02:09
ChoubakaHmm.02:09
Rockett17watches the Gnome/KDE pissing contest02:09
FikrannOk.. just teasind02:09
newbhiewaaaaaaaaaaa... :P sori02:09
Fikrann*teasing.02:09
Seveasalbacker, replace REPLACE_ME with /usr02:09
manitoba98xpHello, all. I have a 700 MHz Celeron CPU, and my CPU usage shoots straight up whenever I access the net for a significant amount of time (e.g: downloading large files). In fact, it sometimes freezes the system (I mean NO response to any keyboard strokes or mouse movements). I'm using ndiswrapper, which I suspect could be the problem. Can I force it to only use, 90% or something like that of the CPU? (BTW, I'm us02:09
cazabamI'm surprised nobody whipped out the XFCE joker ;)02:09
ChoubakaI might use KDE when 4.0 is in Ubuntu.02:09
Choubakacazabam: hah.02:09
ChoubakaI use xfce4 :)02:09
newbhiegnome does'nt have kicker to be use in fluxbox...lol02:10
Rockett17as do I02:10
DalkusI can't install acroread though synaptic or apt-get02:10
cazabamI just follow my whim - I have about 17 wms installed :)02:10
ChoubakaAlso, I want to see a cute Gnustep-based desktop environment02:10
SeveasDalkus, backports has acroread 702:10
cazabamincluding evilwm - muahaha02:10
manitoba98xpCan anyone help me?02:10
Seveasevilwm??02:10
SeveasWindows??02:10
Choubaka:D02:10
albackerit doesnt work02:10
DalkusI'm in hoary - I'm not using backborts?02:10
cazabamno borders, no icons, no menus, no buttons, no nothing02:11
Seveasalbacker, remove that package then02:11
ChoubakaI have fluxbox, metacity, xfwm4, and icewm. and windowmaker02:11
Seveasalbacker, and install acrobat reader 7 from backports :)02:11
Fikrannmanitoba98xp: What wifi card you have?02:11
cazabamhttp://www.6809.org.uk/evilwm/02:11
slyeww i cant stand icewm02:11
ChoubakaI think it's nice.02:11
cazabamI don't like recent changes to icewm02:11
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newbhieChoubaka: I've been working out to install xfce4 but i looks for some module...02:11
cazabamopenbox ... a bit icky to configure, IIRC02:11
cazabamfar too verbose XML02:12
ChoubakaI just apt-get installed xfce4 :P02:12
Fikranncazabam: I only used the gui configurator.02:12
manitoba98xpFikrann: D-Link DWL-g51002:12
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Fikrannmanitoba98xp: What chipset it runs on? Broadcom?02:12
cazabamanyone had any luck preventing gnome-volume-manager from starting in XFCE? I want to use ivman02:13
cazabammore configurabler02:13
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manitoba98xpIt runs on Atheros, but I can't get it to work with madwifi.02:13
manitoba98xpGoogle shows that most people use ndiswrapper.02:13
Dalkuscazabam, close the app, then save the xfce session - it shouldnt load next time02:13
Seveascazabam, sudo chmod -x `which gnome-vlume-manager` :)02:13
FikrannIntriguing.02:13
manitoba98xp(rev B1)02:13
manitoba98xpIt reads as "0000:01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc.: Unknown device 001a (rev 01)"02:14
junhi02:14
junhi02:14
manitoba98xpIt says it works on madwifi.sourceforge.net,  but it doesn't recognize it.02:14
Fikrannmanitoba98xp: Ask on #madwifi, they should be more able to help you, and perhaps they show you how to get the driver to work.02:14
resiakSeveas: Speeling?02:14
manitoba98xpI've tried compiling the latest version, but I get errors.02:14
ivanox_I got dwl g520 running with madwifi02:14
Seveasresiak, hm..?02:14
manitoba98xpOkay, so I should focus on getting madwifi to work, rather than getting ndiswrapper to be more greedy.02:14
resiakSeveas: 13:13 <@Seveas> cazabam, sudo chmod -x `which gnome-vlume-manager` :)02:14
Seveasbuh :)02:15
junuasgfirhaekgtraeuighka02:15
ivanox_u use the cvs for madwifi?02:15
manitoba98xpivanox_, what did you do? Did you upgrade madwifi?02:15
Loki_VAhow destructive have people found a upgrade vs a fresh install, i have 4.10 here but am concerned as I've had upgrade issues with other distros before..02:15
Fikrannmanitoba98xp: YES! ndiswrapper is BAD.02:15
manitoba98xpYeah, I got CVS latest.02:15
Seveasjun, we speak english in here, not uasgfirhaekgtraeuighka :)02:15
manitoba98xpHold on, I'm gonna paste my compile errors.02:15
cazabamseveas: good solution, might break one or two things ;)02:15
SeveasLoki_VA, upgrades warty->hoary are smooth02:15
junseveas02:15
cazabamspecifically, gnome ;)02:15
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FikrannLoki_VA: Upgrade should be very smooth.02:15
ivanox_u get any interface called athX ?02:16
SeveasLoki_VA: One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade02:16
Seveascazabam, ah well :)02:16
Fabiangood afternoon02:16
cazabamgood afternoon02:16
Seveascazabam, i think you should hack into Xsession.d02:16
Fabianpfp, are you here?02:16
manitoba98xpivanox_: no, I have no such interface02:16
junseveas  u? male/female02:16
Seveasjun, does it even matter?02:16
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pfpFabian: yo02:16
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Loki_VAim running fedora atm and dont really wanna wait for the iso to download.. (dialup)02:16
Fabianpfp, not sleeping any more?02:16
junok02:17
manitoba98xpivanox_: it says it "could not find /root/madwifi/ath_hal/.hal.o.cmd for /root/madwifi/ath_h al/hal.o"02:17
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junseveas  you male02:17
manitoba98xpThat causes several functions to be undefined.02:17
Seveasjun, please don't create noise, this is a support channel..02:17
ivanox_well, move the files over there then ? :P02:17
Loki_VAmight give it a go i thinks02:17
ivanox_manitoba98xp, what u see under iwconfig ?02:17
Thomas2can anyone please tell me how to get Flash working in Firefox under ubuntu hoary?02:17
SeveasThomas2: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats02:17
manitoba98xpInstalling it then results in errors on boot. (It boots, but it complains about version mismatch)02:17
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junok02:18
ivanox_hmm02:18
manitoba98xpWhat do you mean, "move the files over there then"?02:18
pfpFabian: nah, woke up an hour ago (it's 15:18 btw :)02:18
cazabamseveas - ah, I didn't think it would start in there. seems to generic a place for such a gnome-specific thing02:18
manitoba98xp(By then, I mean installing it with those errors)02:18
manitoba98xpMove what files where?02:18
Fikrannmanitoba98xp: Are you sure you have full madwifi driver source?02:18
snadgeim booting hoary on an old compaq marmada m700 laptop.. it said my screen might blank, but instead the screen is rolling all over the place02:18
junwhere do you life seveas?02:18
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snadgei cant read anything anymore :(02:18
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Fabianpfp, you're one hour ahead? may I ask, where do you live?02:18
manitoba98xpI downloaded and untarred (with gz), cvs-current02:18
pfpFabian: i'm going to work, so i'm back online in about 20 minutes02:19
pfpFabian: helsinki, finland (you?)02:19
Fabianpfp, alright, cu later02:19
manitoba98xpI've also tried June 2 CVS, that didn't work either (same error)02:19
Fikrannmanitoba98xp: Do you have your kernel headers/source in place?02:19
Fabianpfp, Solothurn, Switzerland02:19
snowblinkhi, gdesklets on hoary. How do I enable a sensor?02:19
manitoba98xpHeaders, yep! linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386 off the Hoary CD.02:20
Fabianpfp, I'll ask someone else in the meanwhile!02:20
manitoba98xp(My kernel image matches, I haven't upgraded it)02:20
finlaylabscazabam: would you believe, another cd, exact same file cant be read? bsdutils.02:20
manitoba98xpI did install sharutils.02:20
cazabamfinlaylabs: that's very freaky...02:20
cazabamdo you have the option of continuing the install regardless?02:21
finlaylabscazabam: is it possible to install from usb-connected drive?02:21
FabianSeveas, have you got a little sparetime for me? ;)02:21
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cazabamfinlaylabs: probably...02:21
Seveasnot really Fabian, bus leavesin 30 seconds :)02:21
finlaylabsno cant continue unless I skip "install base system". Didnt think id try :)02:21
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FabianSeveas, alright, then I'll ask someone else! :D02:21
gh05thi all02:23
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slywho was it who just said about apt-geting xfce402:23
sly?02:23
Fikrannmanitoba98xp: Are you sure you have gcc properly installed? }:>02:23
Fikrannheh02:23
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finlaylabsanyone know how to install from a usb-connected hard-drive that has the install-cd files??02:23
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Thomas2Flash, one more time ... the way described in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats does not work. the package flashplugin-nonfree does not seem to exist in multiverse. any suggestions?02:24
Fabiananyone up for some help? I'd like to do the following: As I don't want to reinstall everything as it was before, I want to put my linux partition in a tar.gz file on a external USB harddisk. Is that possible? And if, how do I do this?02:24
finlaylabscazabam: I thought freaky too...02:24
Fikrannfinlaylabs: iso image with files or just a bunch of files?02:24
FikrannFabian: use partimage02:24
Loki_VAAdmiralCrunch, caffinated bacon? baconated grapfruit?02:24
finlaylabseither, I can write either to hdd02:24
DalkusFabian, tar cvzf whatever.tar.gz /02:24
DalkusI think02:25
AdmiralCrunchLoki_VA: Futurama rules :P02:25
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Loki_VAhehehe02:25
Loki_VAindeed02:25
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cazabamfinlaylabs: you could just copy the files off the CD to the usb drive, but you would still need to boot somehow02:25
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Loki_VAoff i go! apparently..02:25
FabianFikrann, partimage? can I put that back on my HD and it works exactly as before?`02:25
Fikrannfinlaylabs: there is option to use iso image from hard disk02:26
FikrannFabian: yes02:26
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iveqyhi, I've got a problem... I've a computer that cannot boot from a CD. I need to boot the ubuntu installation program from a floppy, and I haven't found any information on howto do this... A pointer to that information would be really nice :)02:26
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FikrannFabian: google for partimage, it's really nifty tool.02:26
FabianFikrann, I'll have a look02:26
finlaylabscazabam, Fikrann: if I can boot (say a different distro live cd), then how would I initiate install from usb hdd?02:26
Fikrannfinlaylabs: you cannot do that.02:27
finlaylabsFikrann: is there a faq for how to do "option to use iso image from hard disk"?02:27
FabianFikrann, other question: If I change the partitions afterwards, let's say prim to logical and put that stuff back, can I still boot? Or do I have to change GRUB somehow?02:27
AdmiralCrunchI will brb02:27
gh05ti need some help with my shell.... i want to copy all files of a dir to another dir, but the copied files should have a prefix at the beginning of their name (i.e. 'PREFIX<old filename>' ). How to do that?02:28
snowblinkiveqy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallWithFloppiesHowto02:28
iveqysnowblink thank you :) saved my day02:28
finlaylabsPoor Fikrann getting swamped ;-)02:28
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Dalkusgh05t, learn bash :) (it'll be a bash syntax, ask in a bash channel perhaps)02:28
FikrannFabian: partimage cannot setup grub.02:29
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gh05thmmm... where to find a bash channel or perhaps a goot tutorial?02:29
Shuflahello :)02:29
Shuflajust 31minutes 2go :)02:29
FabianFikrann, no, but can I do this with my ubuntu live CD?02:29
Shuflagh05t: what do you need from bash? is scripting than ask google: advanced bash scripting02:29
snowblinkgh05t, just cp then rename02:29
Shuflagh05t: if use - man readline, man bash.02:29
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iveqygh05t http://www.google.se/linux?hl=sv&q=bash+programming&btnG=S%C3%B6k&meta=02:30
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cazabamfinlaylabs: not sure what else to suggest ATM as I don't have my ubuntu machine handy02:30
FikrannFabian: there is an option to use the iso image with packages in Ubuntu installer, so you must boot from ubuntu install disk.02:31
FikrannFabian: or perhaps floppy.02:31
FabianFikrann, ah really??? that'll be great!02:31
finlaylabscazabam: np. Any idea how to do Fikrann's "there is option to use iso image from hard disk"02:31
FabianFikrann, but, can I use USB Disk, when installing???02:32
finlaylabssounds like Fabian wants same as me...02:32
Fabianfinlaylabs, what do you want? :D02:32
FikrannFabian: With a bit of prodding, yes.02:32
cazabamnever heard of that option; sounds useful though02:32
FabianFikrann, how much of prodding, and prodding what?02:33
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klaas_Helly everybody.02:33
finlaylabsFabian: install ubuntu from a usb-connected hdd. Im having no success burning an install cd you see. But writing to a removeable hdd is no problem.02:33
klaas_s/helly/hello/02:34
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finlaylabsFabian: each cd I burn read-fails at bdsutils in "Install base system". So Im lookin for alternate method.02:35
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Fabianfinlaylabs, I see....02:35
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cazabamsounds like just the sort of thing the liveCD would be good for...02:36
Daveydammit, Zend doesn't support 5.1 yet ;)02:36
cazabammount the external drive and run the installer, like slackware does02:36
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snadgeif i have a pcmcia netgear wifi card.. should i plug this in before booting ubuntu live? or is it ok to do it afterwards02:37
finlaylabsburn *another* cd :-\. Can try, dont like my chances.02:37
slythat situation dont sound good finalylabs02:37
snadgebecause after it booted.. i tried plugging it in, and its found the device but says unable to load driver02:37
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SteveAi'm using the Disk Mounter panel applet on hoary, and i'm surprised it doesn't show usb storage devices02:38
cazabamfinlaylabs: I don't know if the liveCD thing works... was just a thought02:38
Shufla21 min :)02:39
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Shuflaand no problem to solve? :)02:39
Whistlerhi everybody02:39
cazabamfinlaylabs: is there a boot floppy available?02:39
cazabamhi Whistler02:39
Whistlerhttp://www.collegesexadvice.com/sex.shtml02:39
Whistlerthis is good02:39
finlaylabssly: one day will have to spend $ get another burner :-(02:39
Whistlerits not porn02:39
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slywell if its any consolation02:39
slymy dvd burner will brun nothing except music cd's02:39
slyno data/video disk of any sort02:39
cazabamfinlaylabs: have you checked DMA etc for CD drive?02:39
finlaylabsDMA is?02:40
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slyset to on hopfullt02:40
slyy*02:40
cazabamfinlaylabs: DMA enables the drive to read/write directly rather than making the CPU marshal all writes - means that opening another program won't kill it02:40
slyvery funny whistler02:40
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cazabamfinlaylabs: do 'sudo /dev/hd#' where # is the right device for your CD burner02:41
ubermonziedont they call it stealing cycles. cazabam ?02:41
Whistler:D02:41
finlaylabscazabam: you talking on the write or the read machine?02:41
cazabamwrite machine02:41
finlaylabsthen try writing again?02:41
cazabamhmmm....02:42
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pfpFabian: lo, did you find out anything?02:42
cazabamare the read and write machines both desktop machines?02:43
finlaylabsboth laptops actually02:44
cazabamfinlaylabs: ah. was just going to suggest swapping burner across to other machine for the duratiojn of the install :)02:44
Fabianpfp, yep. got told to use partimage and store it on the usb device. Then reinstall and tell ubuntu install CD to use that image02:44
cazabam*duration02:44
Fabianpfp, googling on partimage right now02:44
ivanox_after I have installed the nvidia driver(not the latest nvidia ver) throught apt-get what should I do ?02:45
pfpFabian: i see, cool02:45
finlaylabscazabam: not likely :-)02:45
pfpFabian: i'm not familiar w/ partimage though02:45
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finlaylabscazabam: tryin something bold, copying all cd contents to /target, will see if I can find something to run install then.02:47
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cazabamfinlaylabs: sounds likea  plan02:48
cazabamfinlaylabs: if you can get the target machine to boot, I would hope that there is an installer executable you could run?!?02:48
cazabamfinlaylabs: not sure of the structure of the CDs off hand02:48
Fabianpfp, what would be your suggestion then? Can I use the external USB device? would be much faster!02:48
Rockett17<ivanox_> if nvidia is the same as it was on redhat. you will need to change the driver line in the xorg.conf to "nvidia"02:48
Rockett17<ivanox_> then restart X02:48
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pfpFabian: an usb harddisk? yes, with that it'll be much more comfortable, whatever software you use02:49
finlaylabscazabam: how to cp all subdirectories? Only top-level files are copying?02:49
cazabamfinlaylabs: cp -a [src]  [dst] 02:50
Fabianpfp, alright, got 2 GB reserved as an ext3 on there02:51
pfpFabian: ooh, partimage looks indeed cool.. why didn't i know this before :)02:51
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Fabianpfp, so new idea?02:52
finlaylabscazabam: copying... (   cp -a /cdrom/* /target/home/installfiles/   )02:53
ivanox_what is the command I have to use to upgrade index of all files before searching?02:53
pfpFabian: i think partimage could save some manual work.. yep, i'd go with it02:53
finlaylabs'course we shall see if bsdutils can be read or not huh.02:53
Fabianpfp, so boot from live cd?02:54
cazabamfinlaylabs: heh, yeah... sounds like this partimage malarkey could be useful02:55
finlaylabscazabam: sounds above me...02:56
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pfpFabian: if the livecd has partimage... hmm, i wonder how safe it would be to make the backup on your running system. one problem might be that there's a tmpfs mounted over /dev, which obscures the static device nodes that exist under /dev in the root filesystem02:57
cazabamfinlaylabs: this should help http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28948.html02:57
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cazabamlooks like exactly what you need - no CD burning involved!02:58
pfpFabian: running from livecd wouldn't have that problem at least02:58
|Ivanch0|enass02:58
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GNULinuxerbob2, which package will install the 686 kernel in one go?02:58
Fabianpfp, so hang on, I gotta do something else, and then I'll boot from live cd. Cu back here in some time02:59
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finlaylabscazabam: havin a read...02:59
slydunno why im ranting about this........... but this is my 1st debian based system ive ran & jeez i want to express my enjoyment at the power of apt-get03:00
cazabamfinlaylabs: or this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2935803:00
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stjepanhi03:01
stjepanI have executable file03:01
stjepanhow do I run it?03:01
stjepanerror is command not found03:01
stjepanstupid question, is it?03:01
napsy./command03:01
stjepanI see03:02
stjepanthanks03:02
stjepanwell03:02
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stjepanI do not understand03:02
stjepansomething03:02
stjepanwhy is Linux case sensitive?03:02
stjepanWindows is not03:02
stjepanbut why is Linux?03:02
slygo back to windows then ?????03:02
stjepanno03:02
napsybecose it's unix style to be case sensitive03:02
stjepanin my opinion, it is quite stupid03:03
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airoxHi! Can I delete ubuntu-desktop when I have kubuntu-desktop installed ?03:03
bpuccioOSX is case sensitive as well03:04
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finlaylabscazabam: cp->Read error. No surprises huh03:04
Riddellairox: yes, sudo apt-get remove libgtk2.0-003:04
airoxRiddell: Ok, thanks.03:04
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kentstjepan why is it stupid?  speaking technicaly, there is and should be a difference between 's' and 'S'.03:05
bpuccioairox: yes, ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package used to pull in a bunch of dependcies, you might wantto install it if you dist-upgrade to breezy in a while just to get whatever new packages ubuntu wants, but aside from that, no issues03:05
airoxOk, great.03:05
stjepankent, why? I do not understand03:06
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daviddo i need to install the gstreamer-ffmpeg plugin in order to view mpgs and avi files?03:06
stjepanI am not taking linux down, I am just trying to understand something ;)03:06
kzmAnybody know about tools that use DNS LOC information?  Just exploring it, so I'm just looking for coolness factor here...03:06
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kestasis it worth switching from samba to nfs?03:07
cazabamfinlaylabs: :(03:07
kestassamba is giving me grief03:07
kentstjepan what dont you understand?  that 's' and 'S' are not the same?  They are diffrent characters. Try learning some C programming and you will see. It can be worked around for sure, but since even normal language differ between 's' and 'S' why should Linux?03:07
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finlaylabscazabam: np. will overcome this one day :-)03:07
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cazabamfinlaylabs: just thought of something completely evil...03:08
stjepankent, I know C# and C++03:08
pfpnfs is very talented in causing grief too, but once you've set it up, it's ok03:08
finlaylabscazabam: will try transfer files with removeable hdd, and see.. Oh? Go on..03:08
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cazabamfinlaylabs: just thought that you could install to the removable HDD, then copy the system to the hard disk03:09
pfp.. ok as in "install and forget", unless you need to reboot often / have laptops or something03:09
cazabamfinlaylabs: but then you would need to set up grub, obviously03:09
daviddo i need to install the gstreamer-ffmpeg plugin in order to view mpgs and avi files?03:09
kentstjepan  it was some time since i played with c++, but surely it differs between 's' and 'S'?  Try to compare a char with 's' and one with 'S' and you will see that they are not the same.03:10
finlaylabscazabam: or swap drives and install using write computer, then swap back... device setups will be bad but..?03:10
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cazabamfinlaylabs: that was my other, more evil suggestion ;)03:10
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davidalso, why do i need the gstreamer-mad plugin? mp3s playback just fine without it installed using the default music player, rhythmbox?03:10
kentstjepan but i must go now. Its not a huge problem for you hopefully :)03:10
cazabamfinlaylabs: although it would only be X that would need reconfiguring, the rest should just hotplug03:10
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finlaylabsreally? then thats an option.03:11
peppoI'm going to burn a CD with stuff I need to build Ardour on a computer that has no internet connection... among other things it needs SCons. have can I do this? I need to see depends via the web03:11
cazabamfinlaylabs: absolutely. it'd actually be easier, now I think about it03:11
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daviddo i need to install the gstreamer-ffmpeg plugin in order to view mpgs and avi files?03:11
daviddo i need to install the gstreamer-ffmpeg plugin in order to view mpgs and avi files?03:11
davidalso, why do i need the gstreamer-mad plugin? mp3s playback just fine without it installed using the default music player, rhythmbox?03:12
cazabamdavid: nope - check ubuntuforums and search for 'multimedia' for more info03:12
davidcazabam: thanks03:12
cazabamdavid: k03:13
kestasanyone got an opinion on samba vs nfs?03:13
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cazabamfinlaylabs: when you swap the disks back, do ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to fix it03:13
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cazabamkestas: yes - smb might suck, but NFS is worse :)03:13
stjepando you know any other program like kmouth?03:13
kestascazabam: k thanks, are there any better alternatives or is samba the best?03:14
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kevihallo03:15
finlaylabscazabam: thanks for the tip. I may do some work then try it later tonight! Will let you know...03:15
cazabamkestas: samba is the best supported. e.g. in nautilus and konqueror support it 'out of the box'03:15
GNULinuxerkevi, hi03:15
cazabamfinlaylabs: ok :)03:15
ivanox_how do I restart x ? (without rebooting)03:15
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keviis hier ok 1 nederlander ????03:15
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GNULinuxerivanox_, Cttl+Alt+Backspace03:16
ivanox_but then it just closes without saving anything right?03:16
ivanox_if I log out and log in will it kill x?03:16
snadgecan i boot ubuntu without framebuffer support?03:16
GNULinuxerivanox_, ya03:16
ivanox_kill/restart I mean03:17
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GNULinuxerivanox_, you log out ... then Ctrl+Alt+backspace03:17
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snadgei have an ati rage mobility chipset in my laptop.. fb console seems to work okay.. but when i start X theres a bit of screen corruption and a horizontal bar thats near the top of the screen03:17
stjepanoh03:17
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stjepanhow can I extract .gz file?03:17
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morf3ohttp://www.gianky.com/microzoft/msbug.htm03:18
ivanox_ok, cool thanks for that :)03:18
deviant after i adde a masquerading rule to iptables i have problems with my internet connection. when i download something, after aprox 1 minute the download speed starts to lower, then it stops. any sugestions?03:18
usynicstjepan: gzip -d03:18
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pfpkestas: nfs is good, unless you need to reboot often or have laptops that move in and out of network a lot03:18
stjepanusynic, tnx ;)03:19
osityany raid experst please message me03:19
pfpkestas: nfs can be a horrible bitch to set up though, but after that it's quite transparent03:19
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ivanox_when I have installed the nvidia driver, is there any command that allow me to see which drivers I have installed? like it will list "nv" and "nvidia" ??03:20
pfposity: if it's softraid, i have some experience03:20
stjepanbash: ./leds: Permission denied03:20
stjepanwhat is the problem?03:20
stjepan:O03:20
kestaspfp: hmm that sounds like what I need actually03:20
cazabamstjepan: just a guess... chmod +x ./leds ?03:20
kestaspfp: the server which runs samba atm doesnt go down, I just want something which behaves just like a normal part of your filesystem and doesnt have any odd quirks03:21
kestassmb has a bunch03:21
stjepancazabam, yes03:21
stjepanoh03:21
stjepan./leds: relocation error: ./leds: symbol __libc_stack_end, version GLIBC_2.1 not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference03:21
kestaslike I cant rename things in nautilus, it just lets you rename for 1 sec then closes the rename input thing03:21
kestasand sometimes files just dont show up03:21
cazabamkestas: nfs is good for 'long term' network shares and is treated as a mount - this is also possible with samba although it is more painful03:21
kestasdamn annoying03:21
PhantomFreakHaving trouble with ScummVM in Ubuntu... I used the Synaptic Package Manager version, but it isn't the latest version... But when I download the latest version from ScummVM.org, in a debian binary it wont install. How can I get the latest version to work?03:22
jbaileystjepan: Err.  How did you get that error?03:22
pfpkestas: yep, and smb isn't really native to unix...03:22
kestashmm guess Ill look into nfs then03:22
cazabampfp: samba is native to unix, even though smb isn't03:23
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cazabampfp: although it is 'bug for bug' compatible ;)03:23
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maxy_noobWould someone kindly tell me how to navigate to a directory using terminal?03:24
pfpkestas: i recommend using NFS in a permanent mount, in fstab (like cazabam said)... the only quirk afaik is the lack for locking in nfs, so having eg. parts of /var or /tmp on it may not be wise03:24
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maxy_noobI don't know what the command is03:25
_root_*going*03:25
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pfpcazabam: true :) i was thinking of permissions, ownership etc - i don't think these can be used in a sane manner w/ samba03:25
maxy_noobanybody?03:25
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peppoall SCons depends on is a python2.4 install right?03:25
maxy_noobok, how about a concrete example? I have an installer on my desktop and I want to navigate to it in the terminal. How do I get to it?03:27
cazabampfp: I think kestas has gone :) ah well... he'll get on just fine with NFS :-/03:27
slycd ~/Desktop03:27
sly?03:27
maxy_noobsly, thanks, I'll try03:28
slymaxxy ~ = Home Directory03:28
slyor cd /home/USER/Desktop03:29
babytoothhi03:29
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maxy_noobIt says no such directory exists. :(03:29
maxy_noobDirectory had to be capitalized. Thanks!03:30
slyyeh case sensitive03:30
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tweakism_Seveas: eh?  I don't.03:33
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ivanoxwtf, I installed nvidia-glx through apt-get, then I changed from "nv" to "nvidia" in xorg.conf, logged out, restarted x, (saw nvidia logo) logged in, and the pc hang. softreseted, logged in again, and another hangup. so I have to change back to "nv"03:35
ivanoxanyone got any idea why it hangs as soon as I login?03:36
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maxy_noobQuestion: is there still no shockwave player for linux?03:38
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deviantguys , is there any tweeks for mplayer in order to run dvd more smoothly ?03:38
deviant*are there?03:38
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slydeviant that sounds more like a dma problem03:38
ivanoxinstalled some other nvidia shit now, gonna try again03:39
deviantsly: meaning ? i don`t have dma activated?03:39
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slymeaning it sounds like its set to off yes03:39
deviantsly: how do i set it to on03:39
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chrissturmis there anything i can do to get automounting working with the breezy kernel?03:40
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snadgeargh.. after downloading 2.72 gigs of hoary hedgehog03:41
juha_how i can make myself back to admin so i can do all root's stuff? Add new users etc...?03:41
snadgei discover that it contains an old version of the madwifi driver which doesnt work03:41
juha_i removed myself from that and now i can't add new users even with root user03:41
juha_xD03:41
slyhttp://ubuntuguide.org/03:41
sly^ says up on there sumwhere deviant03:42
juha_oh...03:42
juha_jes!03:42
juha_i get it work again03:42
juha_i change in sudoers in root03:42
deviantsly: up there ...where?03:42
juha_huh...03:42
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black_Nightmarehey there :-)03:42
HrdwrBoBhelo03:42
black_Nightmarewhat you up to now hardware bob? (heh) :-)03:42
babytoothwhat's sudo... i can not find it on my system...03:43
demantikcan anybody explain this for me?....when i run ./configure (glibc-2.3.5) i get this...03:43
demantikchecking for gcc... gcc03:43
demantikchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables03:43
black_Nightmarebabytooth..its under terminal03:43
juha_but... what the hell?03:43
juha_i can't still do anything in gnome when i'm root03:43
jbaileydemantik: Look in your config.log03:43
demantikok03:43
jbaileydemantik: Why are you compiling a new glibc?03:43
babytoothsigh... it is not there03:44
cazabamdemantik: have you got build-essential?03:44
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HrdwrBoBbabytooth: grinding and drinking coffe03:44
HrdwrBoBe03:44
babytoothok...03:44
HrdwrBoBif you must know03:44
cazabambabytooth: if you start synaptic, and it asks you for your password... that's sudo :)03:44
juha_i clicked "Users and groups" or etc... (Kyttjt ja ryhmt in finnish) and it say's something that i can't do that...03:44
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HrdwrBoBdemantik: apt-get install build-essential03:44
demantikjbailey - i tried installing xfce, installer bin...and it said i need glib lol03:44
demantikalright ill see if i have that03:44
jbaileydemantik: glib and glibc are *not* the same thing...03:44
juha_how can i add new users graphically with root?03:44
slydemantick why not just apt-get install xfce403:45
demantikoops..yeah i know...03:45
cazabamdemantik: glibc != glib!!! glibc is rather more fundamental!03:45
chrissturmdemantik: dont upgrade glibc!03:45
babytoothjbailey:  hehe03:45
jbaileydemantik: That way lies madness, please don't do that. =)03:45
demantikhmm..03:45
black_Nightmarejust curious if there are any people who know a bit about video systems (especially difference between pal and nstc) .. if not then no problem03:45
HrdwrBoBblack_Nightmare: they're both terrible03:45
ivanoxomg, when I change driver to "nvidia" I manage to login, but when I try to open a terminal the whole system just freezes, and I have to reset back to "nv"03:45
cazabamjbailey: I once installed an LFS type system entirely in the /usr/local of a redhat 6 system - that was mad03:45
demantikuh oh..03:45
demantiki think im in the same crappy loop that made me reinstall ubuntu last time!03:45
jbaileydemantik: glib is already packages, "apt-cache search libglib" should get you the package names.03:45
cazabamblack_nightmare: PAL = Picture Always Lame, NTSC = Never Twice Same Colour :)03:46
babytoothdemantik:  you are crazy03:46
demantikLOL03:46
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black_Nightmarecaza....you are way too funny :p03:46
jbaileycazabam: Right.  And I'm all about people learning these tools and doing lfs systems and such.  Just that, say, your compiler is a better place to start than your C library. =)03:46
babytoothdemantik:  wrong woman matchs wrong man03:46
black_Nightmareanyway the question was...whats different about reading a pal vhs verus reading a nstc vhs? :p03:46
jbaileydemantik: You shouldn't need to reinstall, usually you can recover with apt-get --reinstall install FOO03:47
demantikjbaily - Checking for GLib (GModule) >= 2.2.0... why?03:47
jbaileydemantik: where FOO is the package that you think you've broken somehow.03:47
demantikah ok03:47
jbaileydemantik: What are you compiling by hand? =)03:47
cazabamjbailey: you might have a point there... I never did get libstdc++ or locales to work ever again...03:48
demantikxfce4-4.2.2-installer.bin when trying to run that, thats the error it gave me03:48
jbaileydemantik: And are you doing it to learn or because you want the package?  If you're doing it to learn, great.  Otherwise anything you want is likely in Ubuntu somewhere. =)03:48
ivanoxany clue on how I can fix this: "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." ??03:48
demantikabout GLib (GModule)03:48
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demantikLOL..really all i want to do is install XFCE! :(03:48
snadgewhat version of madwifi drivers is in breezy?03:48
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jbaileydemantik: "apt-cache search xfce"03:48
demantikok03:48
Rockett17apt-get install xfce403:48
jbaileyYou'll find that xfce is already all there. =)03:48
Whistlerhow can i know what version of ubuntu i use now?03:49
babytoothdemantik:  it's a simple cake03:49
slydemantik i told you to apt-get xfce4 just 3mins ago03:49
demantikBuilding dependency tree... Done03:49
demantikE: Couldn't find package xfce403:49
slyupdate your stuff03:49
Whistlerhow can i know what version of ubuntu i use now?03:49
demantiknot good..hah.03:49
demantikok03:49
jbaileyWhistler:  /bin/lsb_release -a03:49
snadgeare madwifi drivers in breezy newer than in hoary hedgehog.. i tried to use livecd but my madwifi card is unsupported :(03:49
juha_always when i try to log in root to change users & groups in graphically it says "failed to run user-admin: Child terminated with 1 status"03:49
juha_what i can do?03:50
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black_Nightmarenevermind..found someone else to explain to me :p03:50
babytoothIs xfce good?03:50
demantikapt-get just cant find xfce... :|03:50
slysly@LightSpeed:~$ sudo apt-get install xfce403:50
slyReading package lists... Done03:50
slyBuilding dependency tree... Done03:50
slyxfce4 is already the newest version.03:50
slyneed to update your sources damantik03:50
Whistlerif i run smart update will ubuntu update to 5.04?03:50
babytoothxfce3 > xfce403:50
demantiksly - exactly how do i do this....sorry for not being an expert hah03:51
cazabambabytooth: xfce is very nifty and quick. xfce4 is latest, greatest, rockingest03:51
demantiki havent had any problems with this before..03:51
osityanyone setup raid1 ????....03:51
babytooththat is e17...03:51
slydemantik03:51
slyhttp://ubuntuguide.org/03:51
demantikk03:51
Whistlerif i run smart update will ubuntu update to 5.04?03:51
slyshould explain most things :)03:52
slyand yes babytooth xfce4 is realy good, depending what you want03:52
osityanyone know what the raid setup in Ubuntu does? is it bootable?03:52
babytoothoh03:52
demantikffs...i just updated the lists...and it still doesnt find it...ahh...03:52
slythat was quick updateing03:52
Whistleranybody can answer me?03:53
cazabamwhistler: if you have warty and stick hoary sources in apt, then apt-get dist-upgrade will do the upgrade, yes03:53
Whistlercazabam i started smart update thru synaptic03:54
Whistleris that ok?03:54
thenukeWhistler: it wont do anything if you dont change the repositories03:54
deviant how can i turn on DMA to my hard drive (/dev/hda)03:54
HrdwrBoBsudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda03:54
thenukeoh well, it will upgrade the warty packages to latest warty packages :-) but it wont upgrade to hoary unless you change those repositories03:54
cazabamdeviant: more permanently, read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DMA03:55
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cazabamwhistker: as thenuke said, you need to get the hoary repositories from ubuntuguide.org first03:56
Whistleri am downloading03:56
Whistlerfrom Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main libc6 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 [4822kB] 03:56
Whistleris this ok?03:56
cazabamyep, that'll do it03:56
deviantHrdwrBoB: that would be -d1 or -D1 ?03:56
Whistlerok thx03:56
snadgecan someone tell me what the different vga= options do?03:57
snadgeim getting display corruption.. tried 771, doesnt quite work properly03:57
babytoothdeviant:  useless03:57
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HrdwrBoBdeviant: it is exactly what I said :)03:57
HrdwrBoB-d103:57
babytoothdeviant:  dma is default...03:57
demantiksly - im an idiot...in my sources list, for some reason i had the hoary ones commented out...lol.03:57
cazabamsnadge: enables different video or framebuffer modes. if in doubt do vga=normal03:58
deviantHrdwrBoB: yeah. i`ve just read the man page :)03:58
demantiktwo of em...03:58
guupstaoooh mailman brought my hoary cd's03:58
deviantbabytooth: how do i find of if it is or not?03:58
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babytooth-C03:58
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babytoothIs it?03:58
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cazabamdeviant: hdparm /dev/hda will list all current options, including DMA03:59
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babytooth-c...03:59
deviantcazabam: there`s no DMA specification there04:00
deviantcazabam: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/10404:00
deviantoh yeah, it is04:01
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deviantsorry04:01
cazabamdeviant: hehe it's already on ,anyway04:01
cazabambabytooth: -c checks 32bit i/o, and -C checks the power mode status04:02
babytoothumm04:02
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babytoothhdparm -Cv <device>      ^^04:03
slyhehe demantik so it apt-gets it now yeh ?04:04
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deviantwhat player is better: mplayer or vlc?04:04
babytooth?04:04
slymaybe i should have join/part msgs on04:04
babytooth3 best players04:05
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babytooththe one of three04:05
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babytoothbut wxgtk2...04:05
slybabytooth sorry if this is inculting but that sounds like a womans name :)04:06
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babytootho_o04:06
Drako60why do i get sub-process gzip returned an error code when trying to extract the packages.gz from the security repo?04:06
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slysorry babytooth04:08
babytooth?04:08
babytoothwhat sorry?04:08
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babytooth-_-||04:08
LadyFrostbabytooth: He's apologising for saying your nickname sounds like a lady's...04:09
LadyFrostI think.04:09
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babytoothso what? ^^04:09
juha_wtf?04:09
juha_i tryed to change firefox settings and it says04:09
juha_XML Jsennysvirhe: Syntaksivirhe Sijainti: chrome://browser/content/pref/pref.xul Rivi numero 1, sarake 7: root.disabled = "true";04:09
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slyjuha what was you trying to change ?04:10
juha_i can't change start page or empty history etc...04:10
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juha_i tryed to open preferences...04:10
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juha_or whatever it is in english04:10
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juha_at firefox04:10
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babytoothfirefox <- bad ass04:10
babytoothextensions...04:11
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LadyFrostjuha_: Sounds like syntax error. Try restart. (windows-solution, I know....)04:11
slyjuha how did you install firefox ................. apt-get or other ?04:11
juha_doesn't it be installed already when you install ubuntu 5.04 hoary?04:11
LadyFrostbabytooth: Which web browser do you prefer then?04:11
slynot on my install no04:12
LadyFrostjuha_: Expert or04:12
LadyFrostFuck.04:12
babytoothmozilla ... all in one... free and opensource all04:12
babytoothno flash & java04:12
LadyFrost(why is return and backspace right next to each other...?)04:12
juha_no... not expert... i press enter in start and it started to install whole system04:12
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juha_*i pressed only04:13
pfpjuha_: restart your firefox...04:13
juha_bad english04:13
juha_ok04:13
babytooth?04:13
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LadyFrostbabytooth: You like open source? :)04:14
babytoothwhy not?04:14
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LadyFrostbabytooth: It's a good thing, isn't it?04:14
babytoothno04:14
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pfpjuha_: #ubuntu-fi on mys olemassa...04:15
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LadyFrostI prefer open source.04:15
babytoothtoo many people...04:15
LadyFrost(You'll have to excuse my english, I can't express myself any good)04:15
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juha_pfp, juu ja yritin saada apua siella...04:16
babytoothI hope the source is only open to me04:16
LadyFrostbabytooth: Why?04:16
babytooth^^04:16
babytoothnot to hackers04:16
slythe only way that is gonna happen is if you write it04:17
LadyFrostsly: And close it...04:17
babytoothoh...04:17
babytoothevil...04:17
pfpjuha_: kas enp huomannu, oli pommi tiltiss tossa aamupivn04:17
klaymis linux's open source core a security threat for the user?04:17
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HrdwrBoBbabytooth: bad people having the code results in no more security problems than otherwise04:18
HrdwrBoBklaym: no.04:18
babytoothbut you would not stop hackers04:18
LadyFrostklaym: I wouldn't say so. I prefer beliving that it make's it safer :)04:18
Ycrosbabytooth: yes, but closing your source doesn't stop hackers either04:18
babytoothhack hack hack04:18
LadyFrost(my good, my typing is so SLOW!)04:18
Ycrosbabytooth: fix fix fix04:18
Ycrosopening your source means many more people can find and fix security issues!04:19
Ycrosvery fast04:19
slycorrect babytooth you will not stop hackers finding holes in software so what difference does it make to you personally , if the source is open or otherwise04:19
babytoothtoo late too late04:19
LadyFrostYcros: openoffice!04:19
HrdwrBoBbabytooth: if you want to be technical, most of the people working on linux are hackers04:19
LadyFrost(/me don't like word)04:19
klaymso you shouldn't keep your top secret files on a computer that's connected to the net, anyway (be it windows or linux)04:19
=== babytooth O_O
Ycrosbabytooth: consider many companies with closed source software, bugs can be found and fixed months later04:19
Ycrosthat's a long time04:20
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babytoothafter hacking04:20
Ycrosexactly04:20
verbosushello there04:20
verbosusI'm checking out the LiveCD04:20
Ycrosmany security bugs in open source software are found before they are exploited04:20
cazabamhello!04:20
verbosusis there a way to boot without Xwindows?04:20
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babytoothif developer = hacker ? O_O04:20
slybasiclay babytooth yes thats correct04:20
babytoothtime is shorter04:20
pfpverbosus: update-rc.d remove gdm  <- form memory04:20
pfpfrom*04:20
cazabambabytooth: developer == hacker && developer != cracker04:20
klaymif there is a security issue found in the system, does it take longer to get it fixed in Windows or in Ubuntu? :) how much?04:20
verbosuspfp: at the main prompt?04:21
housetierupdate-rc.d -f gdm remove04:21
forsaker8k6ohi people :)04:21
pfpverbosus: in a shell, as root (or use sudo)04:21
babytoothwell,oss... who's god?04:21
cazabamklayfm: fastest in ubuntu, order of magnitude faster - MS can sit on bugs and just not tell anyone04:21
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Ycroscazabam: I wouldn't agree with that statement, I believe a person can be any combination of three04:21
verbosuspfp: I put the LiveCD into the drive, it boots and I get to the prompt where I have to press ENTER04:21
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pfphmm, what prompt is that04:22
cazabamYcros: OK the, all hackers are developers, but not all developers are hackers04:22
verbosusthe very first04:22
verbosusI haven't yet booted04:22
cazabamYcros: not all crackers are hackers and not all crackers are developers04:22
housetierLokeDK, are you running breezy by any chance?04:22
_kevinI download this program p7zip and it is a binary file, the read me says that the program has been tested and works on debian and i try to open the bin file but nothing opens up04:22
Ycroscazabam: no, you don't have to be a developer to be a hacker04:22
Ycrosit's not tied down to software04:23
cazabamYcros: ah, the wider definition of hacker :)04:23
housetier_kevin, it might not have a gui04:23
_kevinany one know a program to open .7z files in ubuntu04:23
pfpverbosus: the live cd probably has boot-time options for skipping X, try the F keys before it loads (or maybe someone remembers them)04:23
cazabamYcros: but your average non-software hacker is unlikely to find and fix an exploit in your jpeg rendering code :)04:23
verbosusok, thanks04:23
housetierverbosus, maybe try to add "2"04:23
verbosusk04:24
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pfphousetier: runlevel 2 includes X, at least in a permanent setup04:24
_kevinI searched on synaptic and quite a bit on google and i couldn't really find a linux program to open .7z files, expect this p7zip and i try to run it and it doesn't04:24
babytoothif... m$ buy someone -> developer -> what?04:24
pfp(or GDM to be exact)04:24
housetier_kevin, tell exactly how you tried to run it04:25
housetiertell me04:25
_kevini double click on the bin file04:25
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_kevinor i right click and goto run04:25
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housetier_kevin, as I said before, 7zip might not have a gui, so you could try to open a terminal window and run "p7zip --help" there04:25
markcwhat packages do I need to install to do a "debian/rules binary" for a deb-src package ?04:25
verbosusbrb04:26
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jemPLease, Anybody is using MIDI with Ubuntu?04:27
babytoothmark:  Is it a question?04:27
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babytooths/mark/mark cup/04:27
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Lie-Algebrahi04:29
noobhi everyone... Someone can help me about sound volume ?04:29
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noobThe global sound volume of system was fine, but now it's low...04:30
Lie-Algebrai am installing a dual boot on a laptop and would like to know how much space, approximatively, should i use for installing ubuntu 5.04 given the fact  i have a 40GB hard drive ?04:30
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devianthow the hell do i start vlc ?04:30
caza|sleepingLie-Algebra: depends on which you'll use most. I'd just split it down the middle04:30
Lie-Algebrak04:31
LokeDKhousetier, nope.. hedgehog04:31
LokeDKhoary04:31
Lie-Algebralet says 15Gb, i guess it would be suffiscient...04:31
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Loki_VAhi people04:32
Loki_VAI have a evolution question..04:32
Loki_VAi want to switch from fedora to ubuntu and am wondering if i can just copy my .evolution dir to CD or some such and then copy it bak in ubuntu04:33
Loki_VA?04:33
hacWhy when i move a window in Gnome,the cpu occupation is 100%?04:33
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Whistleris it possible to run shockwave games on opera?04:33
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tom_neoopera suxx hehe04:34
cazabamLie-Algebra: yeah, that's plenty. You'll probably want 8 to 10 Gb for comfort04:34
cazabamhac: are you using framebuffer driver for X?04:34
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haccazabam, u mean dri driver?04:35
snadgecan i download live iso for breezy?04:35
WhistlerCan anybody answer me is it possible to run shockwave games on opera?04:36
Fabianpfp, just thought: should I dl the install CD first???04:36
snadgeand does it have newer madwifi driver :)04:36
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Fabianpfp, so far I only got the live CD04:36
cazabamhac: no, just normal 2d driver. i've seen that eat all CPU for basic operations before,04:36
pfpFabian: what are you going to need the install cd for?04:36
Fabianpfp, don't I need it at all?04:36
cazabamwhistler: there is no shockwave player for Linux at all :( just flash04:37
Fabiandunno, maybe to install from image???04:37
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pfpFabian: no, if your'e just copying your system to the usb drive & back04:37
jemHow may I see the hiiden folders on a vfat filesystem?04:37
Whistlercazabam oh04:37
Whistlercazabam thx anyway04:37
Fabianpfp, ok, hang on a sec, gonna boot live04:37
Loki_VAanyone know if a direct .evolution dir copy will work from one sys to another?04:38
catfoxcan anyone remember where the package is for the gPerfection icons which replaced those in /usr/share/pixmaps?04:38
HrdwrBoBLoki_VA: yep04:39
HrdwrBoBit should04:39
Loki_VAwicked04:39
pfpLoki_VA: it's worth a try at least, and if the evolutions are same version, should work04:39
Loki_VAubuntu here i come04:39
Loki_VAhmm04:39
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Loki_VAi need to nuke this install first tho04:39
babytoothpfp:  oh my04:39
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pfpbabytooth: what?04:39
babytoothpfp:  so simple?04:39
HrdwrBoBif they aren't you can make it import them by changing the values of evolution_old_version or something in the gnome data thingo04:40
haccazabam, I'm enabling in gconf metacity/redouce resource and it works04:40
pfpbabytooth: that evolution thing?04:40
Loki_VAjust i cant seem to find a actual export function in evo..?04:40
cazabamhac: ok, so it's just metacity eating everything.04:40
babytoothpfp:  umm04:40
cazabamhac: what graphics card you got though, that eye candy should have such an effect?04:40
babytoothpfp:  show your snake-oil ^^04:40
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jmainI am trying to access my ubuntu laptop from a Windows server.  I have shared a folder on unbuntu.  IN windows it prompts me for a username/password but will not take my username/password04:41
cazabamjmain: you need to add yourself to the samba users list04:41
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jmainahhh04:42
cazabamjmain: sudo smbpasswd -a <your username>04:42
cazabamjmain: it will ask for your password a couple of times and that should be that04:42
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haccazabam, i have a radeon 9000,u think that metacity hog my cpu cause i'm without driver?04:42
cazabamI'm surprised ubuntu doens't do that automatically, really...04:42
Loki_VAnb samba has its own pass wont use unix ones :P04:42
cazabamhac: yeah, sounds most likely04:42
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cazabamhac: check your xorg.conf and see what graphics driver you are using04:43
jmainThat worked.  Thanks guys.04:43
cazabamno probs04:43
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Loki_VAok here goes then.. next time ill be on ubuntu :)04:43
ognePCan someone helper me with my terminal?04:43
jmainI wish the built in sharing tool in gnome would set that stuff up.04:43
ognePwell the command line anyway04:43
HrdwrBoBogneP: what's the problem04:44
haccazabam, I'm using "radeon" driver04:44
theineHi, I'm only able to mount my IPod Shuffle after I remove the ehci-hcd module, otherwise I get "device descriptor read/64, error -71" many times... Does anybody know what this is?04:44
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cazabamjmain: it does seem a major omission04:44
ognePHrdwrBoB, It comes up in the symbol font04:44
HrdwrBoBogneP: that's bad04:44
ognePHrdwrBoB, I know04:44
cazabamhac: oh... that's kinda odd. at least the metacity config change fixes it up :-/04:44
HrdwrBoBterminal->edit->current profile04:44
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ognePi've tried that04:44
HrdwrBoBwhat charset is your system?04:45
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ognePerr04:46
rekaum, where is xorg's log kept?04:46
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ognePi dunno04:46
Fabianre04:46
theinereka, in /var/log04:46
ognePit was fine until i installed firestarter04:46
Fabianpfp, still here?04:46
rekatheine: ah, thanks.04:47
pfpFabian: yep04:47
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Fabianpfp, so what do I do now04:48
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pfpFabian: i'm moving today, after about umm, 2-3 hours (i just found out it happens today :S), so i dont probably have the whole evening, sorry04:48
pfpFabian: hmm, you should create an image with partimage to the usb drive04:48
Fabianpfp, I'm going out today, so never mind04:49
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jman_Hmm... gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg plugin seems to leave my divx out of sync with sound.   It also seems to be the only plugin at 0.8.4  Anyway to upgrade to 0.8.8 like the rest of the plugins in hoary?04:49
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pfpgreat :)04:49
Fabianpfp, there's no partimage04:49
pfpjman_: have you tried totem-xine instaead of gstreamer, i haven't had sync problems with that04:50
babytoothjman_:  firefox,gstreamer...next?04:50
HrdwrBoBno04:50
babytoothjman_:  oss -> css04:50
HrdwrBoBthe problem is not that04:50
HrdwrBoBit's esd04:50
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pfpFabian: hmm, is it possible to apt-get stuff on the livecd?04:50
HrdwrBoBjman_: if you change your gstreamer audio sink to ALSA04:50
HrdwrBoBand run 'killall esd'04:50
HrdwrBoBit should not get out of sync04:51
Fabianyep, it should, but I just tried synaptics, and it hasn't found anything04:51
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pfpFabian: what about apt-cache search partimage04:51
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pfpFabian: oh, and is sources.list sane on the live?04:51
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Fabianjust enabled all packet-sources04:52
Fabiansources.list?04:52
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nJesshow do i install .deb packages?04:53
Fabianpfp, found it now! shall I install it?04:53
ognePSo can someone help me with my terminal problem?04:53
theinenJess, dpkg -i04:53
pfpFabian: yep :)04:53
rekanJess: what are you installing?04:53
nJessa theme04:53
Fabianpfp, not to worry about nothing, when doing this?04:53
theinenJess, dpkg -i <theme>.deb04:53
pfpFabian: /etc/apt/sources.list is the file that knows your repositories04:54
pfpFabian: shouldn't be a problem... hopefully it'll complain if there is :)04:54
Fabianok04:54
Fabianhang on04:54
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Fabianpfp, done04:55
nJesshmmm04:55
nJesshow do i install KDE themes? it didn't show up i the theme manager when i installed the deb package04:55
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Fabianpfp, so what is the command now?04:56
RiddellnJess: what did you install?04:56
nJessthe nvidia KDE theme04:56
pfpFabian: heh, i'm not familiar with partimage04:57
RiddellnJess: there doesn't seem to be any such package04:57
nJessits on KDE-look.org04:57
pfpFabian: ie. the command is 'man partimage' (i'll have a read too)04:57
Fabianpfp, i'm reading right now04:58
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RiddellnJess: URL?04:58
GazaMDoes anyone here use Limewire. There is no system tray icon for me04:59
nJesswww.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1296304:59
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ognePHow do i change my charset for ubuntu?05:00
Nermalturn the knob 15 degrees to the right05:00
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pfpFabian: just a thought. new partition setup should probably have both linuxen on a primary partition, and swap and the fat32 on extended... so i suggest 1:ntfs 2:ubuntu 3:lfs 4:ext 5:swap 6:fat3205:01
tsumeI love Theo's article05:02
Fabianpfp, uuuhhh, mmmhhhh, then I'll have to move the extended....05:02
tsumeunfortunately the article is true. People really aren't caring what they are coding for the kernel.05:02
pfpFabian: you have to moev it anyway i think, because you'll need >4 partitions05:03
Fabianpfp, why not: 1: ntfs, 2: ext, 3: ubuntu, 4: lfs, 5: fat32, 6: swap05:04
pfpor that's what i had in mind originally, as you said you had the fat32 backed-up05:04
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Fabianpfp, well yes I do have backed it up, but this means transferring a lot of data from and to the partition.....05:04
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lamp_netsplit ?Oo05:05
Fabianpfp, can you sill read me?05:06
pfpFabian: 5 and 6 go to the ext. partition, but the ext is already full, so umm, how are you going to add 6. there05:06
pfpstill here..05:06
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RiddellnJess: the .deb file at that URL doesn't include have a KDE theme file, (just the wallpaper, colour scheme and window theme)05:06
Fabianpfp, I can resize that fat32 with partition magic. No problem there05:06
nJessoh05:06
nJess:\05:06
ognePReboot*sigh*05:06
rekaanyone use gparted or qtparted?  i'd like to create a new partition on my HDD and found out i can't do this when the drive is "active".  so how do i go about it?  i tried booting from a warty live cd (i'm running hoary tho,) and it couldn't/wouldn't let me run /usr/bin/gparted which is installed on my linux partition.05:06
RiddellnJess: and the window theme may not work since it's for an earlier version of KDE05:07
pfpFabian: oh, in that case... i don't see any problem05:07
RiddellnJess: you may have to get the sources and recompile05:07
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nJessi got it working05:08
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Fabianpfp, shall I compress it?05:09
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Fabianpfp, .gz or .bz2??05:09
Fabianpfp, I'll take .gz05:10
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Loki_VAyay05:11
Darth_PengoHow do i change my charset?05:11
Loki_VAwent thru without a hitch :P05:12
lotiafolks anyone running on a dell insipron 600005:12
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michaelhelllo05:12
michaelcan anyone helo me05:12
michaelhelp05:13
zOapDoes ubuntu hoary come with shfs builtin the kernel?05:13
lotiahaving problems getting my internal intel 2200 wireless powered up05:13
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HrdwrBoBzOap: shfs?05:13
pfpFabian: ok05:13
michaelit won't let me move a file to a certain folder, it says i don't have permission05:13
Fabianpfp, damm it, haven't got write permission!05:13
michaelhow can i fix this?05:13
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Fabianwhere is that usb device? /dev/???05:14
michaelhow do i get write permission?05:14
zOapHrdwrBoB, yes, the shfs, for mounting filesystems via ssh2protocol05:14
HrdwrBoBag05:14
HrdwrBoBno it does not05:14
zOapoh...05:14
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mindspinmichael what do you want to do?05:14
HrdwrBoBhowever it should be easy to compile05:14
michaeli am trying to move a file to a folder, but it says i don't have permission05:14
zOapyes, I just wondered..05:14
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michaeland i am the only user05:15
mindspinwhich file to which folder?05:15
Darth_PengoCan someone help me http://www.impengo.net/Terminal.png thats what my terminal looks like at the moment05:15
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Drako60whats going on with http://ftp.security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu?05:15
HrdwrBoBsudo apt-get build-essential kernel-headers-$(uname -r)05:15
zOapmichael, root is also a user..05:15
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HrdwrBoBwill get you the files you need to build it05:15
zOapHrdwrBoB, thanks05:15
michaelmindspin, a php file to the www apache    folder05:15
bigfoot1anybody using J-pilot here?05:15
pfpFabian: on the usb disk?05:16
Fabianfound it :D05:16
cazabambigfoot1: yep05:16
mindspinso theres also the user www-data on your machine ;-)05:16
mindspinsudo cp blah.php /path/to apache/docs05:16
bigfoot1cazabam, do you have your Memo Categories working in J-Pilot? Coz all my memos are in the "unfiled" category in Jpilot.05:17
michaelso, mindspin, how do i give myself permission05:17
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cazabamum... yes, I think so. at least, I've never noticed them to be broken05:17
mindspinsudo cp blah.php /path/to apache/docs05:17
mindspindont change permissions05:17
bigfoot1anybody else using J-Pilot in here?05:17
bigfoot1cazabam, okay.05:18
Nermalhave done05:18
Fabianpfp, it's on its way05:18
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mindspinbecome the permitted user and make your action...05:18
Nermalmemo catagories working ya05:18
rekamichael: you need to use sudo to write to "privileged areas", i.e. anything other than ~/ which is your home folder05:18
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cazabambigfoot1: what Palm device do you have?05:18
bigfoot1nermal, do you know why my memos on my PDA are all "Unfiled" in Jpilot?05:19
bigfoot1cazabam, i have Visor Pro.05:19
Loki_VAhow do i turn off the spatial filemanager in gnome?05:19
mindspinchanging permissions will /may result in security troubles05:19
Nermalbigfoot1, no05:19
bigfoot1which runs Palm OS.05:19
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rekaDarth_Pengo: running gnome?05:19
Darth_Pengoreka yeah05:19
Nermalbigfoot1, I presume they aren't on the palm05:19
cazabambigfoot1: what version of Palm OS do they run? is it 3.5 like the other visors?05:19
bigfoot1nermal, huh? on my pda, my memos have categories.05:19
rekaLoki_VA: it's in preferences05:19
Nermalo05:19
Loki_VAokies cool05:20
Loki_VAim used to fedora core05:20
rekadark: what is your k/b layout? sys->pref->keyboard05:20
bigfoot1cazabam, version 3.505:20
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bigfoot1when i was on windows OS, the Palm Desktop software recognized all my categories.05:20
pfpFabian: great05:21
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rekaDarth_Pengo: sorry, that was meant for you - what is your k/b layout? sys->pref->keyboard05:21
Darth_PengoWEll05:21
Darth_Pengoerr05:22
Darth_Pengowell05:22
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Darth_PengoWhen i set up the box the only k/b i could find was a Generic one05:22
Darth_Pengosoo generic 104 key05:22
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rekaDarth_Pengo: no, i'm interested in the country.05:22
rekabelow that05:22
Darth_PengoU.S English05:23
Loki_VAwow ubuntu is nice05:23
cazabambigfoot1: sounds like it's probably a pilot-link problem05:23
cazabamwelcome back Loki_VA!05:23
bigfoot1cazabam, how do i fix that then?05:23
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Loki_VAim only on 4.10 atm but will upgrade soon05:23
jemAnybody use agnula or demudi?05:23
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rekaLoki_VA: it has some niggles, but yes imho it's better than fc at least.05:23
cazabamwhy not just install 5.04, Loki_VA?05:24
Drako60ok i have a major problem, apt-get is piping .gz files to .bzip2 can anyone explain why?05:24
Loki_VAim impressed so far05:24
rekaDarth_Pengo: hmm05:24
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Loki_VAim on dial up.. getting the new iso very slowly :P05:24
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bigfoot1can anyone help me surf a particular website? I'm browsing a blog and was wondering where the link is to view/post comments. Can anyone help?05:24
cazabambigfoot1: not sure - probably best asking on the pilot-link mailing list05:24
cazabamLoki_VA: Ah, I see.05:25
Drako60well explain why or tell me how to fix it05:25
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Fabianpfp, damn, that's goint really fast!!!!05:26
mindspinsorry Drako, I've never seen that problem, not even understanding it never05:26
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cianciHow can I give myself permissions to write to folders?05:27
rekaDarth_Pengo: edit->current profile05:27
Drako60mindspin, the file packages.gz apt-get is trying to make bzip2 extract it05:27
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Darth_Pengoand?05:27
mindspinwhat do want to do?05:27
rekawhat font is it using?05:27
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pfpFabian: cool.. btw, i looked up Solothurn on the web, looks very beautiful :)05:27
glad1are ubuntu faster then windows05:27
bigfoot1cazabam, Nermal; sorry. I checked again and everything's find with JPilot and categories. I just had to scroll to see the other categories. Oops. 8-()05:28
glad1are ubuntu faster then windows xp05:28
Phreakazoidglad1, not really lol but it isn't any slower05:28
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Darth_Pengosome lohit gujarti or something05:28
Choubakaglad1: depends.05:28
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Drako60i want to make apt-get use gzip for .gz files05:28
rekadark: :-) that's your prob.05:28
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Darth_Pengohmm05:28
rekaahh!05:28
Darth_Pengoi fixed it05:28
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ChoubakaYou can customise ubuntu a lot05:28
Darth_Pengoty05:28
Loki_VAi find linux runs much faster than windows for the same tasks05:28
glad1i konw05:28
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=== Nermal pats bigfoot1
PhreakazoidLoki_VA, depends on the task05:28
mindspinI 'm not sure if that works at all05:28
ciancidoes anyone know how to give permissoins to write to a folder?05:28
rekaDarth_Pengo: sure.05:28
bigfoot1can anyone help me with an internet question? I'm viewing a blog. And I'd like to know where the link is to view/post comments.05:29
PhreakazoidLoki_VA, somethings linux does much better, but others it doesn't05:29
Choubakachii: chmod +r dir/05:29
Choubakaer, +w05:29
Loki_VAPhreakazoid, somewhat true05:29
Choubakaand cianci05:29
Choubaka:05:29
Darth_Pengonow05:29
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bigfoot1i can give the url of the blog if you can help. Thank you.05:29
Darth_Pengoi am gonna go back to learn C05:29
cianciyes?05:29
Choubakachii: with chmod.05:29
mindspinapt-get is for debian packages  or am I wrong?05:29
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Choubakaor you can right-click in nautilus and give permissions from there.05:29
Choubakamindspin: ubuntu uses debian packages05:30
Loki_VAsweet, my evo bakup worked fine :P05:30
mindspinis gz a common format for debian packages?05:30
toresbecthulfuego: may I msg you about the bot?05:30
Fabianpfp, solothurn is beautiful! It's supposed to be the most beautiful barock city in switzerland. It isn't actually a barock city, but who cares???05:30
Drako60synaptic does the same thing05:30
Choubakamindspin: uh. no.05:30
cazabambigfoot1: no problem - I learned a bit about how pilot-link works from the mailing list, anyway :)05:30
Choubakadebian packages are .deb05:30
Fabianpfp, done!!!05:30
Drako60packages.gz is a list of available packages which apt-get uses to know what your talking about and where to get it when you do an apt-get install05:30
cazabamLoki_VA cool, glad it's all worked out so nice for ya!05:31
Choubakamindspin: gz files are just any fles packaged with gzip :p05:31
bigfoot1does anyone have 2 cents of wisdom to spare?05:31
housetierLokeDK, sorry for answering so late, this shows where to find the python plugin (python.so): http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=xchat&version=hoary&arch=i38605:31
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devilhello everyone05:31
bigfoot1or does anyone have any problems with blogs, specifically viewing/leaving comments?05:31
Drako60Choubaka, yes but how do i get apt-get to use gz instead of bzip, some how my mime types can gotten confused and its trying to use bzip2 for gz files05:31
ChoubakaDrako60: haa? :>05:32
Nermalbigfoot1, depends on the blog05:32
devilanyone can answer me a simple question?05:32
Choubakadevil: ask.05:32
Nermaldevil, ask ffs .. *stab*05:32
mindspinchoubaka, I've no trouble with that....05:32
devilthank you05:32
Nermal:)05:32
devilit's about install05:32
Nermalget to the point man!05:33
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Drako60Choubaka, when i do apt-get update it pipes the packages.gz file it downloads to bzip2 and gives an error05:33
bigfoot1nermal, if i give you the url, can you check it out and tell me if there's something wrong with the blog or with our browsers? I've already contacted the webamster, and did what he said (enable Javascript, enable popups), but still no link for comments.05:33
Nermalelse I'll spend all my energy and patience getting the problem out of you rather than solving it05:33
ChoubakaDrako60: sounds weird.05:33
Choubakawhat's the error?05:33
Drako60Choubaka, it is05:33
Nermalbigfoot1, aye05:33
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Fabianpfp, I'm ready for the ultimate!05:33
devilwhen i install ubuntu 5.04 where i can find the custom install?05:34
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catfoxare there any tools to download packages for hoary on windows or another linux distro, to install them on a systerm with no internet connection?05:34
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Nermalbigfoot1, yeah I can comment.05:34
pfpFabian: alright :)05:34
Nermalhit the comments link, new window appears05:34
Nermalscroll to bottom and there is a form05:34
Drako60Choubaka, it says somethign to the effect of (stdin) file is not a bzip2 file05:34
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bigfoot1where's the comment link?05:34
devilcatfox: i think wget and d4x is good05:35
cdchi people  i have been using Debian Sarge for the past one year and i am really impressed with it but today i got 10 sets of Ubuntu X86 CDS i am just thinking of installing it05:35
Fabianpfp, cu in two minutes in windows!05:35
cazabamdevil: there isn't one :) not specifically, anyway. The basic install will give you a functional machine. After that, it's into synaptic and pick what you want.05:35
cdci just want to know whether Ubuntu would be better than Debian Sarge05:35
ChoubakaDrako60: right.05:35
bigfoot1i can't find it, Nermal. I might be blind.05:35
Nermalbigfoot1, though it does appear to be a drivel christian site05:35
ChoubakaDrako60: I don't know how to fix that though :/05:35
catfoxdevil, wget could be good. but how will i tell it to get certain dependancies?05:35
rekacatfox: you can use a normal browser to download the .deb packages and then install them manually.  that's going to be messy. though if you have a program that has a lot of dependencies.05:35
tuneshi,,I found a package to enable supermount (  automount/umount)  and wondering why its not the default now, ,,,,,and if its being considered to be part of ubuntu in the future ? ;-))05:35
Nermalit says "comments (29)"05:35
Nermalhit that05:35
bigfoot1nermal, where exactly is the link? i did a search on the page for "comment." found nothing relevant.05:35
cdcinfact i have been a KDE user but for the past few days i ve switched to Gnome . is Ubuntu better than Debian Sarge?05:35
devili see but what about 5.10?05:35
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mindspincdc its a question of taste and purpose...05:36
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devilsorry i don't know about certai mean?05:36
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cazabamdevil: 5.10 (breezy) is not ready yet - see the topic  :)05:36
likkashotwhats the program for partitions  gparted?05:36
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catfoxdoes the hoary cd have everything i need to be able to install python, zope, plone, postgres from sources? (compilers libs, etc05:36
cdcmindspin, i like Debian and Ubuntu is based on Debian and i am a developer i use my system for Development so in that case what do you say?05:36
devilbut i think if you install software,try apt-get?05:36
rekalikkashot: yes, that's one.05:36
Loki_VAis the clearlooks theme in the apt repos for ubuntu?05:37
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devili think so05:37
cazabamcatfox: it has build-essential, so yes, although all those things are available prebuilt05:37
Loki_VAor do i have to do it manually?05:37
mindspinI have kubuntu on my notebook and sarge on my severs05:37
mindspinservers05:37
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nisharthello!!!05:37
catfoxcazabam, cool ta. i need to install all of these into /usr/local for some things05:37
cdcmindspin, so what do you say . I ve got Ubuntu 5.0.4 CDS so tell me what would it be like ? :-)05:37
mindspin(k)ubuntu is pretty good for the desktop IMHO05:37
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nisharthay algun espaol para ayudarme???05:38
mindspinget you a live cd  and have atry05:38
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cdcmindspin, i am running Gnome 2.8 but Ubuntu has got 2.10 and thats a major advantage05:38
Nermalnishart, join #ubuntu-es05:38
Fabianpfp, re05:38
cdcmindspin, tried it it was good05:38
pfpFabian: aight05:38
mindspinso change it if you like it05:38
cdcmindspin,later if i want to install KDE in ubuntu can i do it ?05:39
devilbut i don't want to install the openoffice and gnome-media,my hardisk is small,can you tell me how to do?05:39
likkashotif I have 2 OS's and 1 is winblows and the other is ubuntu , and I want to acces the same failes on both , Ive been told to do a fat32 partition is that right05:39
Fabianhey, actually.... swap does not contain any data, does it???05:39
LokeDKhousetier, oh.. thx05:39
Fabianpfp05:39
mindspinyes, it should work, I#m not using gnome, onlxykubuntu05:39
pfpFabian: Fabian no, you can just wipe it away05:39
cdcanyone using KDE on Ubuntu here?05:40
Fabianpfp, then I don't have to format the other partition!05:40
pfpit contains data but not information :)05:40
Phreakazoidcdc, look in the topic?05:40
Phreakazoid:P05:40
pfpFabian: umm, what other?05:40
mindspincdc try #kubuntu05:40
Fabianpfp, now it looks like that: 1 ntfs, 2 ext, 3 swap, 4 ubuntu05:40
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cdcmindspin, how about the number of repositories for apt-get05:41
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Fabianpfp, and it will look like that afterwards: 1 ntfs, 2 ext, 3 lfs, 4 ubuntu, 5 swap05:41
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pfpFabian: hmm i would but lfs on 3 and swap under ext if that's possible05:41
mindspinI didn't move from ubuntu to kubuntu but it should work by apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:41
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pfpFabian: right05:41
Fabianpfp, this means, I just move the swap partittion and put lfs instead05:41
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mindspinI dunno, buts really a lot and I founf everything I needed by acivating universe05:42
Fabianpfp, so I try to move the ubuntu one savely to the end of the disk. maybe I can just boot then again with Grub!05:42
likkashotso much waiste 200gigs free05:42
Nermallikkashot, pr0n05:43
pfpFabian: ah.. cool05:43
likkashothahaha05:43
FabianI'll give it a try05:43
Fabianthis's gonna take some time05:43
pfpFabian: you should be able to boot... if the partition number changes, you need to help grub at boot-time05:43
pfpFabian: i have to leave in 10 minutes... :/05:43
likkashothwy when I installed I didnt make a swap partition05:43
mindspincpc the main practical difference in my eyes between sarge and ubuntu is the sudo part05:43
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likkashotis that bad05:44
pfpFabian: in grub prompt, you need to go to the editor (press E or something), then change two lines:05:44
Fabianpfp, no problem! maybe I don't need you anymore! The partition number's not gonna change, if I can move it!05:44
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Fabianpfp, cu!05:45
pfpFabian: :)05:45
Loki_VAwhere can i find the clear looks them for ubuntu?05:45
Loki_VA*theme05:45
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rekaLoki_VA: it's installed by default05:48
likkashothey when I installed I didnt make a swap partition05:48
likkashotis that bad05:48
Loki_VAim on 4.1005:48
bigfoot1hello, how come some websites take a long long long time to load for me, but to another person in this chatroom it's not slow?05:48
Loki_VAits not there05:48
bigfoot1i even tried coralcdn.org and it's still slow!05:48
rekaLoki_VA: http://clearlooks.sourceforge.net/screenshots/05:49
rekaLoki_VA: ever heard of a search engine?05:49
Nermalmmm.. clearlooks05:49
bigfoot1is the slowness of some websites the fault of my browser, my ISP, or what?05:49
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Nermalreka, use http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com in future :)05:49
Loki_VAwhats that?05:49
Loki_VAlol yeah i couldnt seem to find it..05:49
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rekaNermal: i was going to...05:49
Loki_VAi was looking for a .deb05:49
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rekaLoki_VA: try apt-cache search gnome themes05:50
Nermalright.. hometime sooon D:05:50
bkinmanSo... how do i add an item to the applications menu?05:50
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rekaLokeDK: otherwise you'll need to install manually05:50
Loki_VAreka, i did but it didnt show up hence why i asked05:50
Loki_VAi did mention that05:50
bkinmanI have tried opening location applications:/// in nautilus, but no luck05:51
rekarighto05:51
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rekabkinman: what are you trying to do?05:51
bkinmanAdd an item to my gnome applications menu.05:52
bigfoot1how can i pinpoint the source of the slowness of particular websites loading?05:52
likkashottheir server05:52
likkashotping it05:52
rekabkinman: can't be done that way: http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/05:52
bigfoot1I want to know if it's my browser, or my ISP. I know it can't be the website itself, because another person in this chatroom said the website did non load up slowly.05:53
bigfoot1likkashot, how do we ping servers?05:53
mindspinping05:53
likkashotwhat the sites adress05:53
mindspinthe nameserver of your ISP05:53
cdcis Ubuntu good for experienced people too?05:54
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bkinmanreka, is that my only option?05:54
bigfoot1how do i know my ISP's nameserver?05:54
bigfoot1likkashot, do you mean the website address?05:54
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optikbigfoot1:  is it on their website?05:54
Loki_VAubuntu uses metacity yeah?05:54
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mindspinwhats in your /etc/resolv.conf05:54
cdcis Ubuntu good for experienced people too?05:54
bigfoot1optik,  is what on the website?05:54
optikthe nameserver05:54
optikare you usin a router?05:55
bkinmanalso, how do i get an address bar in nautilus, anyone?05:55
rekabkinman: yep,  gnome doesn't have a builtin editor afaik, and i don't think you can just add launchers that way.05:55
mindspincdc it is05:55
bigfoot1um, i don't think so. it's not a technical/computer-ish website, so i doubt it has that technical info.05:55
rekabkinman: it's in preferences05:55
rekabehaviour tab05:55
bigfoot1mindspin, you talking to me? (about resolv.conf)?05:55
mindspinyep05:55
bigfoot1optik, no router.05:55
cdchey mindspin one question i trid Ubuntu Live CD but it was slow :-(05:56
mindspinhow much ram?05:56
bkinmanreka, why isnt smeg in a repository?05:56
mindspinwhich cd-rom speed?05:56
cdc256 MB SD RAM 1.7 GHZ and 52X Combo Drive05:56
mindspin512 MB would make it run quicker...05:56
cdcmindspin, but if i install it will it be fast enough like Sarge?05:57
rekabkinman: it didn't get in in time i guess. (only security updates from now on iirc)05:57
cdccoz Sarge is too good05:57
mindspinI think so05:57
bkinmanreka,  this really makes me sad. I cant believe that is the only option05:57
mindspinbut If you are lucky with sarge, stay with sarge05:57
cspanit's pretty much the same05:57
cspanjust with X.org05:57
bigfoot1mindspin, fetchmail and postfix are in my resolv.conf. hmmmm. i wonder what they're for?05:58
mindspinmom05:58
bigfoot1were they there when i attempted to use gmail as fileserver?05:58
rekabkinman: i don't know what else to tell you.  hopefully breezy/the next gnome release will have a builtin editor.05:58
bigfoot1Yikes, I've pinged a website, and it's still going!!!05:59
bigfoot1now for 4 minutes.05:59
bkinmanwhy does applications:// in nautilus work with most distros, but not this one?05:59
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ositydoes anyone know ho to use the raid configuration during ubuntu install?05:59
mindspinbigfoot dunno why, I only got the mameserver IP here06:00
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bigfoot1you mean you got the nameserver ip in your resolv.conf?06:00
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mindspinsure06:00
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steronbigbootay, me, too06:00
chocoIatehi06:00
mindspinnameserver 194.25.2.2906:00
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mindspinthat#s german telecom06:00
cdccspan, Sarge does not have Gnome 2.10 and Ubuntu has :-) and Ubuntu has got the latest kernel and morever after reading all the real good reviews i think i ve to try it out06:01
osityi find it hard to beleive that noone has used the raid option during the partitioning of ubuntu06:01
bigfoot1mindspin, how do i know my nameserver?06:01
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mindspincdc, you got some space on your harddisk?06:01
graabeincan anyone help me with the alexandria gnome-app and ruby libs?06:01
Falkehi. when i have an ppp0 aktive, do i have configure my firefox for getting in the www ?06:01
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Falkeor does it that automatically06:01
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cdcmindspin, no extra space either i ve to remove Sarge and then try Ubuntu06:01
mindspinbigfoot how are you connected?06:01
cspancdc, i said *pretty much the same*, not the exact same thing ;)06:02
cdcmindspin, does Ubuntu have alsa support in it ?06:02
cspani think so06:02
cspanit does have alsa support06:02
steronFalke, only if you want to use an http-proxy06:02
mindspininstalling ubuntu additionally would be my suggestion06:02
cdcmindspin, but i am just worried about one thing the speed Sarge runs is good will Ubuntu run at the same speed ?06:02
steronFalke, usually not06:02
bigfoot1mindspin, pppoe.06:02
cspancdc, i'd say it will06:02
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cdcmindspin, but i dont have that much space06:03
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mindspincdc will you kill me if its slower?06:03
osityso noone knows software raid in here???06:03
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cdccspan, ok and later if  i want KDE to be installed can i install it using apt-get?06:03
chocoIatei like sarge better, but i'm a noob i guess my vote dont count :P06:03
Whistler<osity> i read about it06:03
b3ar1n0osity?06:03
Whistler<osity> but i havent tried06:03
chocoIatei have tried both by the way06:03
cspancdc, yeas06:03
cspanif you instal hoary06:03
cspanall you have to do06:04
cdccspan, thats what i am gonna install06:04
cspanis install the kubuntu-desktop06:04
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cspanpackage06:04
cspanjust, cdc, remember to enable the universe and multiverse repositories06:04
osityb3ar1n0: what?06:04
chocoIatewhy are the  packages for ubuntu not compatible with debian if ubuntu is debian based :o06:05
cdccspan, while installing ?06:05
Falkei have adsl and an alcatel modem. i have it so far, that i can make a ppp0 connection, but when its active, nothing happens. i cant go in the internet, cant get my mail. this is from  IFCONFIG:   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/10506:05
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Codeman7Hello06:05
cspancdc, no, afterwards06:05
ositythere is an option to configure raid during the partitioning in ubuntu.....no one has seen it?06:05
Codeman7I just installed 5.04 on my laptop, and every minute or so the pointer/insertion point freezes up for a solid second, and then returns so I can use it... it's like the whole system stops for a second.06:05
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chocoIateFalke, when i had that problem i had to add my nameservers address in this file --->> /etc/resolv.conf and it worked06:06
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Falkei made that06:07
julohi06:07
Falkethere are 2 resolv.conf06:07
mindspinbigfoot try downloading something with wget from commandline and you will see the download rate06:07
mindspinthats just the poormans solutuion06:07
juloi just upgraded breezy, and now i can't use shift or meta anymore06:07
steronFalke, show me the output of "cat /etc/resolv.conf"06:07
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julois anyone also experiencing it06:07
Falke1 inf /etc/resolv.con and 1 in /etc/ppp/resolv.conf06:07
julo(question mark)06:07
julo:)06:07
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steronFalke, just in /etc/06:08
mindspinjulo read the topic?06:08
Falkehmm.06:08
bigfoot1mindspin, thank you for your assistance.06:08
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Drako60why why why is apt using bzip06:08
julomindspin: well, i didn't read it before coming here :)06:08
Falkein the /etc/ should be my nameserver and i have added 206:08
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steronFalke, what?06:08
mindspinits also mentioned on the homepage06:08
Falkebut when ubuntu startup, it always deletes the 2 and adds 192.168.2.1 instead06:09
julomindspin: too bad i never visit it06:09
mindspinbleeding edge is what it says, bleeding06:09
Falkethats the ip from my router06:09
julomindspin: anyway, i'm not complaining, just asking06:09
steronFalke, in /etc/resolv.conf should be only the line "nameserver x.x.x.x"06:09
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Falkeyes06:09
Falkei have that06:09
Falke2 times06:09
mindspinAnd I cannot help you sorry06:09
theineFalke, 2?06:09
Falkeboth nameservers06:09
theineDrako60, why is that a problem?06:09
jbwivgentlemen: a package that libsdl1.2-dev depends on, xlibmesa-glu-dev, has inexplicably disappears from the Ubuntu Hoary apt repositories.  This prevents me from being able to install libsdl1.2-dev, which depends on this.  Fortunately, I had already installed this package weeks ago on my work Ubuntu machine.  Is there a way to recreate the deb file from this machine. Also, anyone know where the package actually got to?06:09
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julomindspin: i know what bleeding edge, but i'm just wondering whether it's worth reporting the bug, or if it's a known issue, that's all06:09
mindspinbut reading before installing could spare you a lot of hurt06:09
Drako60theine, because its downloading .gz for its package list06:10
Falke195.3.96.67 and 195.3.96.6806:10
theineDrako60, so?06:10
steronFalke, You've got an router and you're trying to "dial" out over pppoe?06:10
Falkea nameserver is a DNS server , or not ?06:10
Falkeno06:10
mindspinjulo I dunno, but avisit at ubuntuforum could help maybe06:10
steronFalke, normally this couldn't work06:10
julomindspin: ok, i'll try there06:10
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JDigitalI think it is06:10
steronnameserver == dns-server, jep06:10
Drako60theine, when i do apt-get update the packages.gz file it downloads is piped through stdin to bzip2 and bzip2 plainly states its not a bz2 file and errors out06:10
JDigitalDNS = Domain Name Server06:11
Falkeso what do i have to do ?06:11
Falkedelete 1 nameserver ?06:11
theineDrako60, hmm, how come I never had that problem?06:11
steronFalke, you have to use your eth0-interface and turn the dhcp-server in your route on06:11
mindspinfalke no, that has no effect at all06:11
Drako60theine, i didn't have this problem untill today06:11
Falkeok, wait, i will show you what i have done06:12
Falke2 min please06:12
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theineDrako60, are you using breezy by the way?06:12
Drako60theine, no06:12
caryanyone: i'm wanting to patch my kernel so that certain things will work with my powerbook. i have found what i think is the raw data of the patch but i dont know waht to do with it. any suggestions?06:12
Codeman7I just installed 5.04 on my laptop, and every minute or so the pointer/insertion point freezes up for a solid second, and then returns so I can use it... it's like the whole system stops for a second.06:12
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Drako60theine, i'm using hoary06:12
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theineDrako60, which repository causes you trouble?06:13
theineDrako60, all?06:13
Drako60theine, all06:13
mindspincary on my thinkpad disabling acpi helped in that case06:13
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mindspinbut this could be a thinkpad issue06:13
Drako60theine, but its only on the packages.gz the rest are fine, now if i could figure out how to get it to download the packages.bz2 it wouldn't be a problem06:14
steronFalke, back06:14
cazabammindspin: thinkpads (certainly anything before and including T22) have bizarre ACPI related issues. Some seem to work OK, some seem not.. it's weird06:14
theineDrako60, there are also bzip2 compressed Package lists (http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 for instance)06:14
mindspinDrako sudo apt-get install bz2 ?06:14
carymindspin, what? i am trying mostly to get the audio to work correctly. i can Barely hear it. i just dont know what to do with this "patch"06:14
theineDrako60, ah, you already knew that...06:14
steronFalke, tell me what you have done06:14
mindspincazbam Yep thats true, mine is a600x06:15
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Falkeyes, im on it06:15
Falkei am writing ;)06:15
Falke1 min please06:15
theineDrako60, have you looked in the forums whether there are any other people havng the same problem?06:15
Drako60mindspin, i've had bz2 from the start or else it wouldn't be giving me errors06:15
jbwivto answer my own question, in case anyone's curious, you can use dpkg-repack...06:15
cazabammindspin: I had a plain 600, and it was well weird, but my newer T21 seems fine with ACPI06:15
Drako60theine, not yet06:15
theineDrako60, I would do that06:15
steronok06:15
Falkehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/10606:15
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Falkemy modem ip is 10.0.0.13806:16
ositydoes anyone in here use ubuntu?06:16
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Whistleri use06:16
mindspinDrako60 sorry your problem sounds weird06:16
Falkeso whe i type "pptp 10.0.0.138"  as root, it connects06:16
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mindspinand I can give you no help sorry06:16
brettCan anyone help with automatically connecting wireless to an AP at boot.  I can do it manually with `sudo iwlist wlan0 scan' I'm at my wit's end with this.06:16
ositywhistler.....what have you read about raid?06:16
Drako60yeah it is weird mindspin06:16
Whistlerosity that raid is not nessecary hardawe and it can be software06:17
theineDrako60, which mirror are you using?06:17
Drako60ftp.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu06:17
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theineDrako60, archive.ubuntu.com or some other mirror?06:17
Whistlerosity using it u can get more performance06:17
theineDrako60, ok06:17
mindspincary you better find a powerbook user ;-)06:18
theineso what's the deb line in your sources.list?06:18
Falkesteron, are you here ?06:18
chombeeCan anyone give me a command that will list my network interfaces? etho etc. Will ifconfig contain all of them?06:18
steronFalke, sorry, first you should be sure which devices you're using. If you've got only a modem, then you've to go through ppp0. If you've got a router, then it's his job to connect to your browser.06:18
mindspinifconfig06:18
theinechombee, ifconfig -a06:18
Falkesry, no router06:18
Falkeforget the router06:18
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pregohow do I have to change the marillat line since debian has released new version?06:18
Falkei have to dial in06:19
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steronFalke, I think this channel is the wrong place for this problem06:19
Falkeand my provider uses pptp06:19
chombeemindspin without the -a it lists only active ones, theine thanks06:19
theineDrako60, try to remove 'ftp.' from 'ftp.archive.ubuntu.com' and try again06:19
Falke?06:19
mindspinyou're right06:19
Falkewhy that please ?06:19
steronFalke, you should better check out some websites for that06:19
chombeetheine, mindpsin - eth0 is inactive, what do I use to bring it up? ifupdown? It's dhcp so I don't want to configure it06:19
Falkei have06:20
theinechombee, ifup06:20
Falkei made it after a german tutorial from ubuntuusers.de06:20
theinechombee, ifup eth006:20
Falkeand it didnt work06:20
steronFalke, i don't think that it's a problem with ubuntu...06:20
theinechombee, check /etc/net/interfaces whether dhcp is anabled for eth006:20
Falkeit is06:20
Falkeit works well with windows06:20
mindspinFalke which provider ?06:20
Falkeaon06:20
steronFalke, but i've to go... good luck!06:20
theinechombee, sorry, that's /etc/network/interfaces06:20
Falkeok, sija06:20
Falkethank you06:20
chombeetheine - ifup eth0 complains that the interface is unknown06:21
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theinechombee, but it is listed by `ifconfig -a'06:21
theinechombee, ?06:21
chombeetheine - yes06:21
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mindspintried sudo/etc/init.d/networking restart?06:21
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theinechombee, then check /etc/network/interfaces06:21
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mindspinchombee route?06:22
chombeetheine: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet...06:22
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chombeemindspin ?06:22
newbieHello06:22
theinechombee, perhaps paste it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl so we can take a look at it06:22
newbiecan anyone please help me06:22
chiefofthejojo1what do you need newbie?06:22
chombeetheine - in interfaces I see mapping hotplug script grep map eth006:22
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newbieok06:22
mindspindo you have a default gateway entry?06:22
Codeman7I just installed 5.04 on my laptop, and every minute or so the pointer/insertion point freezes up for a solid second, and then returns so I can use it... it's like the whole system stops for a second.06:22
Drako60i just love this dns problem06:23
newbiei am trying to move a file to a folder but it is sayign i don't have permission06:23
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newbiehow can i fix that?06:23
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Falkeis this the right syntax for pap-secrets : <username> * <password> *  ?06:23
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chiefofthejojo1you need to chmod either the file or the folder06:23
chombeemindspin - I tried rebooting the machine06:23
bigfoot1anybody using "block Ads" in their Firefox's usercontent.css file?06:23
theinechombee, is there a line saying "iface eth0 inet dhcp"?06:23
mindspinFalke seems to06:23
chiefofthejojo1or, you could su root so you have all permissions06:23
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chombeemindspin - I don't know if I have a default gateway, but it should DHCP06:23
newbiehow do u do that?06:23
chiefofthejojo1which one?06:23
chombeetheine - in interfaces? no06:23
pregonewbie, is that folder yours?06:24
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newbiechmod the folder06:24
newbieno i think it's the root06:24
Drako60theine, i have no idea why that worked but thank you06:24
mindspinchombe try route06:24
pregonewbie, bad news then06:24
newbiewhat?06:24
chiefofthejojo1do "ls -l" on the folder and that shows you what permissions you have on it06:24
theinechombee, me neither, but you're welcome :)06:24
mindspinyou'll see if there is a default gw06:24
theinechombee, you need to add that line06:24
pregonewbie, which folder is it?06:24
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chiefofthejojo1well, not on the folder, on the folder's parent06:25
Drako60now to figure out the dns issue i have06:25
newbieit's the apache www folder06:25
chombeetheine - I would paste the stuff, but it's on another laptop that has no network connection working... maybe I'll copy it out by hand if easier stuff doesn't work06:25
newbiei am trying to move files to it06:25
mindspinnewbie is it your machine?06:25
chiefofthejojo1is it your computer newbie?06:25
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newbieyes06:25
mindspin;-)06:25
theinechombee, don't worry, you only need 3 lines...06:25
chiefofthejojo1do you have the root password?06:25
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theinechombee, auto lo06:25
theinechombee, iface lo inet loopback06:25
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theinechombee, iface eth0 inet dhcp06:25
newbiewell, i am the only one usuing the computer, but how do i know?06:26
newbieis it my password?06:26
bigfoot1what's the command for running fx in safe mode?06:26
theinechombee, and, if you want to bring up eth0 automatically at boot:06:26
theinechombee, auto eth006:26
chombeetheine - good, thanks, I now have all three of those lines06:26
chiefofthejojo1you need to know your root password06:26
pregonewbie, OK, I see then, try with "sudo nautilus --no-desktop", browse to that folder and drag the files into that nautilus window. But be careful with what you do with that/those nautilus root windows....06:26
theinechombee, try again06:26
mindspinnewbie sudo cp blah.php /path/to apache/docs06:26
Drako60i have three entries in resolv.conf primary and secondary nameserver and search domain.actdsltmp but when trying to connect to multiply sites or irc servers, it often reads the IP address as 1.0.0.0 any idea?06:26
chombeetheine - added auto eth0 as well06:26
chombeetheine - rebooting06:27
newbiewhat is blah.php?06:27
mindspinthe name of your php file06:27
theinechombee, a reboot wasn't necessary06:27
theinechombee, but won't do any harm either :)06:27
chombeetheine - I know, but I don't know the command06:27
theinechombee, which command?06:27
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mindspinchombee sudo/etc/init.d/networking restart would have done it06:28
chombeetheine - to restart the network interfaces06:28
mindspinchombee sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart would have done it06:28
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caryis there any known issue with powerbook sound being basically inaudible?06:28
chombeemindspin - yeah, that one06:28
tswhmm If ubuntu is for desktop usage and maybe for test servers (usually used by only one person) should apache (and some other services) be installed so that the first user has rights to it autoagically? (just a thought)06:28
theinechombee, or just ifup eth006:28
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chombeetheine - thanks06:28
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chombeetheine - excellent, it looks like it did it! Finally this HD can see some repositories, I hope06:29
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theinechombee, nice06:29
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pregotsw, first user has sudo privileges, nevertheless06:29
mindspinI#m wondering with which nick newbie will come again06:29
pregomindspin, he he06:29
Drako60this is annoying06:30
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theinechombee, I wonder why the eth0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces wasn't there in the first place...06:30
tswprego: thats true, Imm just curious, should we try to teach everyone how to do these things or just make it work "out of the apt" :)06:30
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chombeetheine - from a server install, what command will get the default system and update everything? sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop ?06:30
theinechombee, that's right06:30
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theinechombee, or just ubuntu-desktop06:31
pregotsw, teach, teach, teach and then .... learn!06:31
mindspintsw It should not be too easy06:31
chombeetheine - this HD was previously in another laptop with no network card, we just transplanted it, and apparently hotplug didn't autoconfigure all the new hardware06:31
theinechombee, ...which depends on ubuntu-base I guess06:31
theinechombee, ah, I see06:31
tswprego: yes, but not everyone needs to be sysadmin06:31
Drako60i have three entries in resolv.conf primary and secondary nameserver and search domain.actdsltmp but when trying to connect to multiply sites or irc servers, it often reads the IP address as 1.0.0.0 but oddly if i do ping url i can connect just fine any idea?06:31
lancer285how do I switch run levels in ubuntu? I tried sudo init 3 and nothing happens06:31
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pregotsw, I *like* having to put "sudo" prefix to dangerous commads, you know.06:31
chombeetheine - do you think much will go wrong if I apt-get the default system, then transplant the HD back in the other laptop?06:31
mindspinDrako60 try another nameserver06:32
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pregolancer285, are you sure??06:32
tswthen again I dont have a clue how these things work in windows (where most of newbies came from)06:32
pregolancer285, what says "runlevel" command?06:32
theinechombee, no,I don't think so06:32
Drako60mindspin, i have i still get the same thing06:32
mindspintsw ;-)06:32
chombeetheine - well, wish me luck06:32
lancer285prego: I want to be able to install my nvidia drivers, can't do it while X is running06:32
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theinechombee, sure, i'll cross my fingers...06:32
pregotsw, that's the main reason because dummies bork their windows installations, IMHO. It's long I don't use windows anyway.06:32
cspanlancer285, can't you?06:32
tswprego: I like sudo too, helps with slow head and fast fingers :)06:33
likkashotIm trying to install a theme and everytime it says wrong file format06:33
likkashotand its a tar.gz06:33
chombeetheine - I suppose I'll return in a couple of hours, I need to configure a non-standard wireless card before doing the re-transplant06:33
pregolancer285, I see, but check that X11 is not at runlevel 3, btw.06:33
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theinechombee, okidoki06:33
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pregolancer285, cannot try it myself since I'm working... despite of chatting :-P06:34
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pregolancer285, btw, are you using apt repositories for nvidia or just using the nvidia installer directly?06:34
lancer285is the red text to me, someone that's whispering?06:34
theinechombee, you probably know that, but don't forget to run apt-get update before you install ubuntu-desktop...06:35
pregotsw, I also suffer from that disease.06:35
lancer285I was going to use the nvidia installer.06:35
kdibblecould someone tell me the procedure to get the tun interface to route?06:35
chombeetheine - yes I did06:36
pregolancer285, I've not yet used nvidia+ubuntu but I would try first with repositories nvidia drivers, I guess that you don't have to change your runlevel at all.06:36
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pregolancer285, just restart Xserver once the upgrade has completed (and perhaps check before the /etc/X11/xorg.conf)06:36
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lancer285prego: okay, thanks.06:37
lancer285also, Firefox won't start up.06:37
pregolancer285, also check the wiki site, perhaps there is specific informaiton06:37
pregolancer285, since when??06:37
lancer285prego since I installed it. I just installed Ubuntu yesterday. Had LOTS of probs06:37
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pregolancer285, it has never worked?06:38
Drako60sometimes ubuntu does some really weird things06:38
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lancer285prego: no, I cannot open Firefox. It just says 'starting firefox' then it quits06:38
Drako60why can't i install irssi-snapshot without synaptic removing ubuntu-desktop?06:38
pregolancer285, I would fix the problems prior to any nvidia driver installation.06:38
lancer285I tried running it from a terminal, and I didn't get any error mesage06:38
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pregolancer285, reinstall it.06:39
lancer285firefox?06:39
pregolancer285, the firefox I mean, of course.06:39
lancer285okay06:39
pregolancer285, also try with epiphany,...06:39
Mwncii have used apt to install rt2500 from debian.org    how do I run this program or get ubuntu to register the card06:39
lancer285k06:39
pregolancer285, btw you have installed flash plugin?06:40
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Drako60where can i get irssi 0.8.10?06:40
lancer285no06:40
pregolancer285, and are you using composite extension? (well, have you got it enabled at xorg.conf?)06:40
theinechombee, because irssi-snapshot conflicts with irssi-text which is a dependency of ubuntu-desktop06:40
theineDrako60, because irssi-snapshot conflicts with irssi-text which is a dependency of ubuntu-desktop06:41
lancer285No, this install is fresh outta the box. I haven't edited the conf file at all06:41
pregolancer285, -it is not enabled by default, so I guess that everything is OK)06:41
lancer285k06:41
lancer285prego, are you whispering to me?06:41
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zzzapCAN ANYONE HELP ME06:42
zzzapIS THERE A WAY TO INSTALL WINDOWS FONTS ON UBUNTU?06:42
zzzap<b>06:42
GNULinuxerzzzap, yes06:42
lancer285plz don't shout (:06:42
zzzapok, sorry about the caps06:42
zzzapi wasen't shoting06:42
chombeetheine - I guess that last comment was for someone else06:42
pregolancer285, no... what do you mean?06:42
zzzap*shouting06:42
Mwncinobody know?06:43
repetezzzap: you can just copy the .ttf files to ~/.fonts06:43
Drako60theine, well thats lovely but i need 0.8.10 which apparently can only be gotten through cvs or snapshot, and the cvs when compiled with fakeroot debian/rules binary gives the version 0.7 something which then conflicts with apt06:43
theinechombee, it was06:43
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zzzapwhat do u mean? repete06:43
chombeetheine - I suppose I should remove those lines that I added to interfaces before re-transplanting the HD, because in the other laptop they will no longer be relevant?06:43
GNULinuxerzzzap, sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts06:43
pregozzzap, there is specific instructions at the ubuntuguide.org, but GNULinuxer has extracted them to you ;-)06:43
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repetezzzap: I believe if you google for microsoft fonts there is a sourceforge project that has a download for the fonts06:43
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zzzaprepete, thank you soo much!06:44
theinechombee, they'll probably be appropriate for the other system as well06:44
repetezzzap: you untar that file and copy the files into ~/.fonts06:44
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repetezzzap: np06:44
zzzapoh, ok06:44
demantikQuick question  - GTK...whats the name to be searching for to use with apt-get06:44
zzzapis ~/.fonts a folder?06:44
theinechombee, they'll probably be appropriate for the other system as well06:44
GNULinuxerprego, i am thinking about learning the guide by heart ... for those newbies who don't read the guide06:44
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GNULinuxerzzzap, sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts06:44
zzzapi did that06:45
zzzapnow what do i do?06:45
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demarhi there06:45
GNULinuxerzzzap, sudo fc-cache -f -v06:45
chombeetheine - actually, the other system has no (working) ethernet card, though it does have a proprietary external wireless card06:45
pregoGNULinuxer, so you are right now doing "sudo apt-get install-into-user-memory ubuntuguide"?06:45
chombeetheine - do I configure wireless interfaces in the same interfaces file?06:45
demarfinally i got my ubuntu today06:45
demarand know its installed06:45
GNULinuxerprego, lol06:45
zzzapThank you GNULinuxer06:45
theinechombee, yes06:46
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GNULinuxerzzzap, my pleasure06:46
zzzapis that all i have to do?06:46
ka7anahey there, any docs available about using NDIS wrapper with Ubuntu Linux?06:46
demantikanybody06:46
GNULinuxerzzzap, no, you have to format your / too06:46
zzzaphow?06:46
sith__espanol!!!!!!!!!!! plz06:46
sith__where?06:46
demari'm starting to like ubuntu06:46
chombeetheine - nice06:46
theinechombee, my wireless interface is called eth1, but it could be that it would be eth0 if I didn't have a ethernet device06:46
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GNULinuxerzzzap, mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda106:47
chombeetheine - oh06:47
brettka7ana: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 helped me out a lot06:47
Evghenihello06:47
theinechombee, what wireless card is in there by the way?"06:47
Whistlerhow do i take a screenshot?06:47
pregoGNULinuxer, you should not make that sort of jokes....06:47
concept10ka7ana, check the wiki there is a writeup for ndiswrapper06:48
GNULinuxerprego, lol06:48
pregozzzap do not do that!!!06:48
theinechombee, in any case, i would leave the line in for now as it won't cause any harm, even if the wireless interface is not called eth006:48
ka7anaokidoki, thanks06:48
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pregooops he is not here.....06:48
GNULinuxerprego, he is gone06:48
GNULinuxerprego, i thought he'll understand06:48
pregolets hope he is not gone because he has input that line :-P06:48
GNULinuxerprego, that's why i said FORMAT and not just mkfs06:49
root_____ /query ^siro06:49
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chombeetheine - we have a Linkyss Wireless-G WPC54G. I think we will need to d/l and compile ndiswrapper and a Windows driver and build a kernel module...06:49
Whistlerhow do i take a screenshot?06:49
pregoGNULinuxer, lol, but scared at the same time...06:49
theinechombee, probably...06:49
tarvidhow do I change screen resolution?06:50
brettchombee: from what I've read in the forums, the default ndiswrapper should work for that card.06:50
brettI'm on a WMP54GS06:50
pregoGNULinuxer, did you read the "hacker" auto-hacked at chat story?06:50
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GNULinuxerprego, no06:50
GNULinuxerprego, what is the story?06:50
tarvidSystem, Screen Resolution only offers 640x48006:51
demantikCan anybody tell me what Solaris is like?....and what the primary desktop is, what makes it different from linux etc....and open/free bsd = what difference.06:51
pregoGNULinuxer, was about a guy that entered a chat sayig "I will hack you, giveme your IP"06:51
GNULinuxerprego, ya06:51
pregoGNULinuxer, and they have him "172.26.0.1".....06:51
theinechombee, you don't need to compile ndiswrapper though06:51
GNULinuxerprego, somebody gave him 127.0.0.106:51
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pregoGNULinuxer, sorry, you are right.06:51
theinechombee, it's available in the ubuntu repos afaik06:51
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GNULinuxerprego, ya06:51
pregoGNULinuxer, and I am too sleepy06:51
chombeebrett - what do you mean? that doesn't seem to match with the nidswrapper instructions on the site, explain?06:52
GNULinuxerprego, goodnight06:52
pregohe he06:52
GNULinuxerprego, but where are you?06:52
chombeetheine - good, thanks06:52
mindspindemantik I would suggest you to google and read about that..06:52
chombeetheine - now that on day three we can finally talk to some repos.06:52
pregoGNULinuxer, in spain, it is  almost 19:00 here, awaiting for weekend06:52
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theinechombee, sorry, actually you do need to compile it...06:52
lancer285how do I change the owner for a whole selection of directories?06:52
demantikhaha...yeah, i should know better than to speak of it in a linux room :| i did search..didnt find much....ill look later..06:52
brettchombee: the instructions are written for specific .inf file, but you can substitute the proper .inf for your driver06:52
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GNULinuxerprego, i see06:53
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GNULinuxerprego, i have met quite a few good guys here in this chan06:53
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chombeebrett - so what is the procedure?06:53
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veronicahi everyone.....im trying raid for the first time....06:53
mindspindemantik its not because its alinux room, it#s because its to much to talk and "slightly" ot06:53
veronicaanyone ever heard of it06:54
GNULinuxerveronica, yes06:54
GNULinuxerveronica, what type of raid?06:54
veronicasoftware raid 1 have you heard of it...06:54
demantikfair enough..06:54
brettchombee: Instructions here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 but substitute in the proper .inf file name for your driver.06:54
veronicaim new at all this06:54
GNULinuxerveronica, ya06:54
thenukeveronica: there are many kinds of "raid levels"06:54
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ST4TIKsoftware raid *shudders*06:54
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GNULinuxerthenuke, she's talking about RAID/106:55
brettchombee: if that doesn't work, you'll need to compile ndiswrapper from source.  But compiling from source will prevent you from installing updates to the linux-image package06:55
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chombeebrett - hmm... thanks06:56
theinebrett, ah, so the ubuntu kernel includes the ndiswrapper module out of the box?06:56
GNULinuxertheine, yes06:56
bretttheine: yes, an older version06:56
GNULinuxertheine, the restricted modules package06:56
brett1.0rc2.  latest is 1.206:57
theinebrentd, GNULinuxer, nice06:57
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veronicahas anyone ever set this complicated stuff up06:57
chrissturmveronica: look at evms06:58
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veronicawhat's that?06:58
GNULinuxerveronica, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallingToRAID106:58
veronicathank you GNULinuxer06:59
GNULinuxerveronica, my pleasure06:59
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demantikLOL @ GNULinuxer07:00
GNULinuxerdemantik, why?07:00
demantiknevermind07:00
GNULinuxerdemantik, wtf was that?07:00
demantikhahaha07:00
veronicaveronika= osity  haha07:00
GNULinuxerdemantik, you laugh at me and say never mind? as if i laughed at you07:01
demantikdont worry about it. ;)07:01
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demantikLOL07:01
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Fabianpfp, ya here?07:02
lxuserhi evey body07:02
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apogeemmm07:02
Whistlerhi lxuser07:02
Whistler=] 07:02
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apogeeGNULinuxer gets angry quickly LOL07:03
GNULinuxerapogee, i was joking dude07:03
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apogeehaha...its all good...07:03
Fabianpfp, done and booted correctly! :D07:03
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Fabianhow can I see, if my swap partition is being used?07:04
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theineFabian, swapon -s07:04
apogeeanyway people im out, 1504 here :|.....cyaz07:04
GNULinuxerFabian, free07:04
kimuhi~ this is my first time to use linux07:04
GNULinuxerFabian, the command is Free07:04
Dalkuswhat command takes a screenshot?07:04
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pregoDalkus, press the "print screen" button at keyboard07:05
Dalkusyeah... I know... but is there a cli command to do it?07:05
FabianGNULinuxer, mmhhh, what can I do, if swap is not used? how can I tell ubuntu where the swap partition is?07:05
pregoDalkus, there are also commands for that but then the shell is caught with the command being fired :-P07:05
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GNULinuxerFabian, swapon -a07:05
theineFabian, is your swap partition listed in /etc/fstab?07:06
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pregoDalkus, the so old xwld or something like that (I can't recall correctly)07:06
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Dalkusthanks :)07:06
lxuserim looking for how to add some libraries missin in my Ubuntu07:06
GNULinuxerlxuser, like?07:06
lxuseri need to run JBuilder07:06
ren0I am using a laptop with only one dvd-burner. Can I make a copy of an audio cd using k3b? Or do I need to buy an external cd drive?07:07
lxuser ./jbuilder: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:07
Codeman7I just installed 5.04 on my laptop, and every minute or so the pointer/insertion point freezes up for a solid second, and then returns so I can use it... it's like the whole system stops for a second.07:07
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concept10ren0, Yes07:07
GNULinuxerlxuser, sudo apt-get install libstdc++07:08
concept10ren0, that is you can copy with one burner07:08
c_rodgehow can i download the codecs so i can view avi files in gnome07:08
pregoCodeman7, perhaps you shoud disable acpi for your laptop.07:08
ren0So is it just a matter of inserting the cd click on copy...then insert the cd-r when k3b asks for it?07:08
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theinelxuser, you need to install  libs/libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 from universe07:09
concept10ren0, yes. it copies the cd to the harddrive then back to the blank07:09
pregoren0, I never copy audio CDs, I transfer the songs to the hardrive with cdparanoia and then I burn a new CD afterwards.07:09
GNULinuxerlxuser, libstdc++6 - The GNU Standard C++ Library v307:09
GNULinuxerlibstdc++6-4.0-dbg - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (debugging files)07:09
GNULinuxerlibstdc++6-4.0-dev - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (development files)07:09
GNULinuxerlibstdc++6-4.0-doc - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (documentation files)07:09
GNULinuxerlibstdc++6-4.0-pic - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (shared library subset kit)07:09
pregoren0, I'm very paranoic in audio matters, btw.07:09
Drako60c_rodge, try mplayer07:10
theinelxuser, if you're missing some shared libraries, you can always go on http://packages.ubuntu.com and search te contents of all available packages for a specific file07:10
ren0OK. Thanks concept10 , and prego...I'll give both a try. You are not paranoid...Its just everyone is against you.07:10
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theinelxuser, sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.207:11
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GNULinuxertheine, lxuser is not listening07:12
ChoubakaHmm. I got my Ubuntu CDs today.07:12
Choubaka:D07:12
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lxuserwith sudo apt-get intall libstdc++ i get errors of not found package07:12
Drako60hmm i can't seem to find libc6 anywhere07:12
theineGNULinuxer, too bad...07:13
theinelxuser, sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.207:13
GNULinuxerlxuser, scroll up and see07:13
lxusersory i was tryn what u were sayin07:13
theinelxuser, believe me, you want to do that...07:13
GNULinuxerlxuser, don't be so fast07:13
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theinelxuser, then you need to enable the universe repository07:14
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Fabiancan I reload fstab somehow, without a complete reboot?07:14
theineFabian, what do you mean "reload"?07:14
GNULinuxertheine, to make it active07:15
pregoren0, "cdparanoia -Q" shows the songs07:15
lxuserwait, wait.... the first step was edit source.list07:15
Fabianwell, I changed the definition of my swap partition in fstab. And I want it to use that swap partition now07:15
pregoren0, "cdparanoia -B1-12" extracts songs from 1 to 1207:15
lxuserand uncomment all lines that began with deb...07:15
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lxuserthen i made apt-get update07:15
Fabiantheine, well, I changed the definition of my swap partition in fstab. And I want it to use that swap partition now07:16
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theinelxuser, uncomment _all_ lines that begin with deb???07:16
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theinelxuser, go back to how it was and replace all occurencies of "main restircted" with "main restricted universe multiverse"07:17
lxusersorry about my english... i'm form Nicaragua im doin' my best effort07:17
Quest-MasterCan someone link me to a download for the Bluecurve Metacity theme?07:17
veronicai installed ubuntu using the raid option...it's up and running butwill it reboot ?07:17
veronicaim scared to restart it07:17
theineFabian, have you formatted your swap partition as swap?07:18
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theineFabian, and set the partition type to swap?07:18
thenuketo not have an swap-partition might not be an issue if one has enough ram07:18
theinelxuser, don't worry, could you perhaps paste your /etc/apt/sources.list at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl ?07:19
lxuserdoes anybody speak spanish..?07:19
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tsumelxuser: #ubuntu no hable Espanol :P07:19
envelkubuntu  - is it good?07:20
thenukeyo hablo Espanol, or not.07:20
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forsaker8k6beeter ubuntu07:20
thenukelxuser: try #ubuntu.es for Spanish users07:20
tsumeenvel: well, KDE is lightyears ahead of GNOME07:20
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forsaker8k6or my e-ubuntu as i like to name mine07:20
chombeeOkay now I have the GNOME desktop, but the resolution is stuck at 640x480, 60Hz, GNOME gives no other options, how do I fix this?07:20
envelkubuntu is better than ubuntu?07:20
iceonnethow to install xvid?07:20
tsumeenvel: the only difference is KDE and gnome07:21
thenukeenvel: is gnome better than kde? it's your choice :)07:21
enveltsume: and that's all?07:21
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tsumeenvel: yep07:21
enveltsume: hmmm... thanks07:21
tsumethenuke: actually KDE being better than GNOME is a fact07:21
forsaker8k6tsume... it's a metter of choice07:22
forsaker8k6i preder gnome07:22
forsaker8k6prefer07:22
concept10forsaker8k6, I agree with you07:22
forsaker8k6personally07:22
envelI always thought that KDE is so slow. But in Kubuntu... It's so fast. And GNOME too07:22
tsumethenuke: GNOME doesn't have policy settings, its not customisation like KDE, The GNOME API isn't as complex if you read code.07:22
tsumeforsaker8k6: not really07:22
concept10tsume, what policy settings?07:22
forsaker8k6and now i'm falling in gnome with Enlightenment e1707:23
forsaker8k6on wich i am now07:23
tsumeconcept10: you can have policies like in Windows. KDE is great on networks when you need to restrict settings07:23
enveltsume: what do you recomend for desktop to user who had just working in Windows?07:23
tsumeenvel: KDE. Gnome is straight forward, but not as complex07:23
theineenvel, I'd go for Ubuntu as it is more polished IMHO07:23
envelhmmm....07:24
concept10tsume, Im not understanding what policies you are talking about07:24
tsumeenvel: I've both instllation disks of ubuntu07:24
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tsumeconcept10: KDE has restriction policies07:24
tsumeconcept10: GNOME does now.07:24
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tsume*not*07:24
concept10tsume, restrictions on what?07:24
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theinetsume, that's nice, but what are those "restricted policies" actually?07:25
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envelHow to make in GNOME menu button like in KDE (or Windows)?07:26
tsumeforsaker8k6: thats because gnome people are slightly deprived07:26
Choubakaenvel: Be more specific please.07:26
tsumeenvel: gnome should have a menu on the bottom07:26
Choubakatsume: No, it's because people generalise (based on some bad feature they don't like)07:26
tsume*menubar07:26
concept10forsaker8k6, because people like to advocate thier desktop wm.  Theres nothing wrong with Gnome or KDE07:27
tsumeChoubaka: you mean gnome people are clueless :)07:27
forsaker8k6boyz get enlightened :D choos E as your desktop shell07:27
envelChoubaka: I want to have one Start Menu button, not "Applications", "System", "Places"07:27
theinetsume, actually, it's at the top...07:27
Choubakatsume: they are not. :P07:27
ChoubakaIt's actually better to have the menu on top, you know.07:27
tsumetheine: well, I drag 2 bars around my screen. Ones on top, other on bottom07:27
forsaker8k6i agree with you concept1007:27
Choubakayou need to move the mouse less.07:27
tsumeChoubaka: there is a menu on tpo, but I've special applet needs07:27
theinetsume, me too, but by default, the applications menu is at the top07:27
concept10envel, thats how gnome 2.10 is.  You can customize that if you want07:27
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hellfiredoes someone use dvd burner07:28
theineenvel, what's your beef with the menu layout in Gnome?07:28
Rockett17IMHO I never liked the feel of KDE. It always felt too cluttered07:28
theinehellfire, I do07:28
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hellfirebecause i have problems with mine07:28
forsaker8k6me too Rockett1707:28
hellfireit`s pioneer 10707:28
concept10Rockett17, Yes. too much.07:28
hellfireand i can`t write with speed higher than 2x07:29
tsumehttp://jriddell.org/programs/kiosk-article.html07:29
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concept10KDE 3.4 does look nice, but I like gnome.  I like the look of GTK better than QT07:29
tsumeKDE is more advanced, like it or not07:29
theinehellfire, it could be that you need to enable DMA for your DVD drive07:29
Choubakatsume: Anyway, I don't use gnome, but I don't use KDE either. And honestly I'd rather use gnome than KDE as things are now. Because of this, I resent your "GNOME people are clueless" -generalisation.07:29
Choubakatsume: What do you have to prove that?07:29
tsumeconcept10: well, Qt is overpriced :)07:29
theinehellfire, hdparm /dev/dvd07:29
ChoubakaGnome is more advanced when it comes to internationalisation.07:30
forsaker8k6Choubaka, what dm r you using?07:30
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tsumeChoubaka: read links I posted07:30
tsumehttp://jriddell.org/programs/kiosk-article.html07:30
Choubakaforsaker8k6: xfce4.07:30
theinehellfire, check whether using_dma is on07:30
forsaker8k6never used.. gotta try one day or later07:30
tsumehttp://www.kde.org/areas/sysadmin/07:30
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ChoubakaOk, actually it's GTK2 over QT which I prefer.07:30
concept10tsume, you can do that in gnome.  I see you just dont have knowledge about it07:30
theinehellfire, no, but other people did have such problems07:31
ChoubakaUI wise, I hate both KDE and Gnome.07:31
tsumeconcept10: not as easy however07:31
Funraiserhttp://www.forbes.com/business/businesstech/2005/06/16/linux-bsd-unix-cz_dl_0616theo.html07:31
theinehellfire, what does "hdparm /dev/dvd" give you?07:31
chrissturmi think qt is more advanced than gtk, but gnome looks much cleaner07:31
concept10tsume: stop the fud please07:31
hellfireit shows OFF07:31
hellfirehow to enable it07:31
chombeeAnyone here familiar with Hoary resolution problems? I'm sure this was up on the forums or somewhere but can't find it - GNOME will only let me choose 640x48007:31
tsumeconcept10: I don't see any links from you07:31
tsumeconcept10: you stop the fud07:31
theinehellfire, sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd07:32
concept10tsume: I dont need to show links !  that was funny07:32
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tsumeconcept10: now You're speaking out ass07:32
concept10tsume, I guess I have to shut you down.  I didnt want to do this.07:32
theineGuys, go to OSNews.com if you're looking for a flamewar...07:32
hellfire10x theine i`m gonna try whether it worked07:32
theinehellfire, 10x ?07:33
Choubakatsume: To each his own.07:33
tsumetheine: hes probably done that already, so he comes to IRC ;)07:33
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hellfiretheine thanks07:33
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Choubakatsume: You can't say "KDE is more advanced than Gnome" because I can say "Gnome is more advanced than KDE". The Question is "more advanced in what?"07:34
concept10tsume, Are you talking about me?07:34
hellfireshould i expect some probles after enabling this feature?07:34
theinehellfire, not very likely07:34
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hellfireit worked thanks07:34
theinehellfire, as far as i know you have to edit /etc/hdparm.conf in order to make this change persistent across reboots07:34
hellfirewill this work on nec and other dvd recoders07:34
tsumeChoubaka: KDE is more advanced than GNOME in features, and advanced configurations07:35
theinehellfire, probably07:35
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Choubakatsume: which features?07:35
hellfirethanks fo help07:35
ivoksomg... gnome vs kde flames07:35
Choubakatsume: It might be more configurable, but that's not always a good thing.07:35
ivoksguys, stop flaming07:35
theinehellfire, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DMA07:35
Choubakaivoks: Neh.07:35
tsumeChoubaka: Knowing takes looking around for yourself07:35
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likkashotanobody giving help here07:35
concept10Okay, let me settle this.  tsume - you posted and said that gnome has no restriction policies and you also said gnome people are slightly deprived.  Who is contributing to a flame war, I ask?07:36
chrissturmare there any thoughts on using objective c as language for gtk development?07:36
FunraiserI think even the project founder of gnome says KDE is more advanced, there is nothing wrong with that...07:36
ChoubakaI can't take the "KDE has better features" thing07:36
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FunraiserI prefer gnome though07:36
philuk86is there a way to configure my system to use the hostname provided by the DNS server?07:36
ChoubakaKDE (actually QT) lacks ONE feature I require. Therefore it's useless to me :/07:36
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HappyFoold0rt: which version of emacs?07:36
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HappyFoollikkashot: ask a question if you have one07:36
theineMy only real problem with Gnome is the close-to-featureless default window manager (metacity)...07:36
ChoubakaDon't use it then07:37
Funraiserd07:37
likkashotI have 2 nic cards but one is not detected how do I install it07:37
Funraiserexactly07:37
Choubakause fluxbox or xfwm or kwin :|07:37
YcrosChoubaka: what is that one feature?07:37
ChoubakaYcros: input modules.07:37
d0rtor openbox07:37
tsumeconcept10: I still have yet to see any links or proof from you for retaliating against my statements and proof07:37
chrissturmthe "close to featurelessness" of gnome is what makes it so elegant07:37
YcrosChoubaka: for what language?07:37
tsumeconcept10: objc is nice btw, I've used it.07:37
Funraiserexactly07:37
ChoubakaYcros: any.07:37
ChoubakaYcros: "input modules" means being able to switch the input method on the fly.07:38
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tsumeits a better choice than mono07:38
Ycrosyeah07:38
concept10tsume, this is all you need to see: http://www.gnome.org/learn/admin-guide/latest/07:38
Choubakawhich QT can't do natively yet.07:38
theineChoubaka, of course I can use openbox etc., but still...07:38
YcrosI use kinput2 for japanese which works across everything07:38
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ChoubakaI hate kinput2 :|07:38
Ycrosqt, gtk, xlib07:38
Ycrosheh07:39
concept10tsume, if you cant determine that gnome has policies from that, thats your problem.07:39
Ycrosit just works everywhere07:39
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ChoubakaI can't use Finnish when I use kinput207:39
Choubakabecause I need a japanese locale with kinput207:39
HappyFoollikkashot: not too sure. try checking System -> Adminstratration -> Device Manage to see if the card is at least detected, or try 'sudo lshw' in a terminal07:39
Choubaka-> no Finnish special characters :(07:39
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YcrosI've fudged my locales07:39
tsumeconcept10: //www.gnome.org/learn/admin-guide/latest/ <-- this is nothing compared to what KDE can do07:39
Funraiserphiluk86, do u have a server?07:39
Ycroscan't you use utf8?07:39
ChoubakaAnd wrappers scripts are _not_ a solution. )07:39
concept10tsume, great. next conversation07:39
chrissturmtsume: what do you want to tell us?07:40
philuk86Funraiser: yes07:40
ChoubakaYcros: I do in fact.07:40
likkashotit says disabled07:40
ChoubakaI guess I could set up UIM with XIM.07:40
HappyFoollikkashot: where?07:40
mencialGood evening to all. I have a big problem: I cannot get the Ubuntu installer to install from a ISO file in a partition. I have installed it from CD-ROM, but this machine has no CD-ROM and I do not have the resources for a network install.07:40
Choubakabut I haven't managed to do that yet.07:40
likkashotin the terminal07:40
Funraiserphiluk86, so yes there is a way but i have to way to do this in French07:40
likkashot*-network:1 DISABLED07:41
likkashot       description: controller07:41
likkashot       physical id: 407:41
likkashot       logical name: sit007:41
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Ycrosxim tends to work everywhere07:41
Ycros:P07:41
Funraiserthe*07:41
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philuk86Funraiser: vous parle en francais?07:41
Funraiseroui07:41
ChoubakaYcros: well, yes, but it's bound to one input method.07:41
tsumechrissturm: I want to tell you nothing, I was telling envel why KDE was better. THe conversation spun off07:41
philuk86Funraiser: daccord, continuer..07:41
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YcrosChoubaka: what if that one input method is a proxy for others? isn't that what uim or something does?07:41
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Funraiserit's a howto i found in the french ubuntu forum07:42
HappyFoollikkashot: hrm. do you know what sit0 is? I have it too, but I only have one interface, as far as i know07:42
Funraiserwhen the link?07:42
ChoubakaYcros: Then it might work.07:42
concept10mencial, Im not sure if you can install from a mounted .iso07:42
Funraiserwant?07:42
ChoubakaYcros: However, I never got UIM to work :/07:42
tsumethe french :) hehe07:42
likkashotits probabli the name for gigabit nic cards07:42
tsumethe guys who never won a war07:42
YcrosChoubaka: neither07:42
Funraisersorry for the spelling tonight07:42
likkashotthats what I make of it07:42
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ivokstsume: KDE can't work on cell phones, gnome can07:42
ChoubakaI speak ~one word of french :P07:42
Funraisertsume, have u heard of Napoleon?07:42
ivokstsume: :)07:42
philuk86Funraiser: yeah go on.07:42
theinetsume, I think Napoleon won a couple of battles...07:42
ChoubakaCell phones? :D07:42
tsumeFunraiser: I mean a real war07:42
ivoksChoubaka: nokia.com/77007:43
Choubaka:D07:43
theinetsume, like world wars?07:43
Funraisertsume, oh! Napolean wars were not real...my bad!07:43
HappyFoollikkashot: well, i don't have a gigabit NIC but i see sit0 in 'lshw' too07:43
mencialConcept10: The installation manual says something about a "iso-scan" part on the installer that find a .ISO file and installs from there.07:43
likkashotoops07:43
likkashot:)07:43
ChoubakaI'm Finnish. I should've known that.07:43
tsume"The french have a row of trees in the main street, so the enemy can march in the shade" :)07:43
btkHi huys..07:43
Funraisertsume, please change topic, u don't know what u're talking about07:43
btkI'm just about to set up initnc..07:43
theinetsume, how old are you?07:43
concept10mencial, thats interesting07:43
btkHow do you think about that?07:43
tsumeFunraiser: I guess you don't know much about the world wars ;)07:44
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chrissturmtheine, i was about to ask that question too07:44
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concept10theine, under 1707:44
theineat most07:44
HappyFoolmencial: i glanced through the install manual and i have a feeling it was hastily adapted from the debian manual -- i'm not sure all of it is valid07:44
mencialConcept10: http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch06s02.html: "iso-scan07:44
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mencial    Looks for ISO file systems, which may be on a CD-ROM or on the hard drive."07:44
lxuserhi again07:44
Funraisertsume, exactly, only that I live where the fiercest battles in Europe have been fought07:44
concept10tsume, youre probably not old enough to join the military07:45
tsumeconcept10: I wouldn't be in Alaksa if I were under 1707:45
lxusermy conexion was down07:45
mencialHappyFool: I figured. So what would be the way to install without a CD-ROM drive?07:45
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likkashotFor more information, see interfaces(5)07:45
lxuseri paste my source.list as yuo said07:45
concept10mencial, post that link again. it was dead07:45
likkashotwheres that07:45
lxuserhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/10707:45
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HappyFoolmencial: i don't think it's possible, sorry :-( -- I'm not too sure though07:46
concept10tsume, alaska has no one under 17 in the state?07:46
HappyFoollikkashot: 'man interfaces'07:46
mencialConcept10: http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch06s02.html07:46
tsumeconcept10: a few, not too many. Everyoe moves out07:46
tsumeconcept10: damn weaklings07:46
theinelxuser, will take a look07:46
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mencialConcept10: It seems that it is a Debian manual that does not work for Ubuntu...07:46
Choubakahmm.07:46
HappyFoollikkashot: i googled for 'linux sit0' and i think it's for 'tunnelled interfaces'07:46
lxuserthanks07:46
ChoubakaI wish there was a proper Gnustep desktop environment07:47
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HappyFoollikkashot: do you not see other 'Ethernet controllers' in the hardware list?07:47
ivoksChoubaka: wmaker ;)07:47
Choubakaivoks: it's a window manager :P07:47
Choubakanot a DE07:47
ivoksChoubaka: +gnustep07:47
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mencialHappyFool: Would using a Debian-installer kernel work with an Ubuntu ISO? Riskyyyy... But I am desperate.07:47
HappyFoolmencial: i don't know07:47
ChoubakaDE = window manager + goodies all set up07:47
chrissturmanyone using breezy and having keyboard problems? :)07:48
ivoksmencial: yes07:48
HappyFoolmencial: what do you have to lose?07:48
ivoksmencial: if you compile proper kernel, it will work with instalatio07:48
theinelxuser, i'll edit it and re-submit07:48
mencialHappyFool: Besides 10GB of data, including my (finished) thesis? Nothing...07:48
concept10mencial, you should note that the link you posted only explains installer components - it doesnt say that you may install from a .iso07:48
lxuserok07:48
HappyFoolmencial: then maybe you should backup first ;)07:49
HappyFoolmencial: i would backup even if using a conventional install method07:49
concept10mencial, you dont have a CD Rom available?07:49
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mencialconcept10: It tells about a component that looks for ISO in the HD in case there is no CD.07:50
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tobias_hallo!07:50
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tobias_ich habe ein Problem mit Kubuntu 5. kann mir jemand helfen?07:51
ivoksenglish07:51
mencialconcept10: No. It is a mini-itx system, it won't have a CD, and the rest of my computers are laptops. I have 1GB USB keychains available; could I boot from there?07:51
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theinelxuser, still there?07:51
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concept10mencial, it says  "Looks for ISO file systems, which may be on a CD-ROM or on the hard drive."07:51
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lxuseraja...07:51
Funraisertobias_, wir sprechen nur english hier07:51
tobias_ahh, okay.07:52
mencialI have installed from ISO in HD in Mandrake (rapidly dons asbestos suit).07:52
concept10mencial, you can install from USB if your bios supports that07:52
dacrepairok, i downloaded the following, K3B, airsnort,wine, now i have them but their not on my apps menu, where are they?07:52
theinelxuser, take a look at what i submitted over http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl, that's all you need07:52
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mencialconcept10: It does. Should I just put the .ISO file in the USB HD, or do I have to format something?07:53
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tolstoyfolks, how do you "startx" on today's breezy?07:53
chrissturmtolstoy: what doesnt work for you?07:53
dacrepairwhat folder would they be in07:53
theinetolstoy, why? does startx not exist anymore?07:53
tolstoytheine, exactly.07:53
lxuserthis will be my new source.list07:53
concept10mencial, im not sure.  I havent done a usb install - lookup installation instuctions for that07:54
tolstoyand /etc/init.d/gdm just "returns".  does nothing.07:54
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lxuser???07:54
theinetolstoy, what about X?07:54
dacrepairwhere is the installed apps folder07:54
firasRhi all07:54
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theinetolstoy, or Xorg07:54
dacrepairhello07:54
tolstoytheine, just type X as a comment?  hm.07:54
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theinetolstoy, yep07:54
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i3dmastertolstoy: what about gdm?07:54
theinelxuser, sorry, yes07:55
tolstoyXorg gives me a fatal server error.  Can't move the log file, or something.07:55
HappyFooldacrepair: you can use synaptic to query what files belong to each package (wine / k3b / etc.)07:55
dacrepairi took a shower this morning07:55
ivokstolstoy: sudo apt-get install x-widonw-system-core07:55
tolstoyi3dmaster, will try it raw07:55
chrissturmtolstoy: do you have x-window-system-core installed?07:55
dacrepairk thnks07:55
ivoksx-window-system-core :)07:55
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kcburyshakerim a brand new ubuntu user  installed it last night07:55
lxuserok thank you, where are you from...?07:55
mencialconcept10: The thing is, I can get the install kernel to boot, but it complains that it does not find a CD-ROM and does not let me go forward (even in priority=low)07:55
kcburyshakernew to linux too07:55
tolstoychrissturm, why, no i don't!  How did that get uninstalled! ;)07:56
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kcburyshakerim trying to get java to work   but im clueless on how    any help?07:56
mencialconcept10: Is there another install-kernel? Or a better place to ask?07:56
tolstoychrissturm, not that it works.07:56
tsumedon't use java? :)07:56
ivoksjava is Bad[TM] 07:56
chrissturmtolstoy: be careful with dist-upgrade07:56
theinelxuser, that'll do it07:56
theinelxuser, try it out07:56
theinelxuser, despite my ip address I'm from Germany07:56
AySinkkcbury: how far have you got?07:57
kcburyshakerwell  some websites i go to use it07:57
tsumewell, Sun's java implementation anyway07:57
dacrepairHAPPYFOOL: how and where is synaptic07:57
HappyFoolkcburyshaker: you need to install it; this should help you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java (unfortunately there's more than one option)07:57
tolstoychrissturm, I'm okay that's it's hosed up for a bit.  was just wondering if there's a "new paradigm" and startx went away.  maybe some new command, for instance.07:57
HappyFooldacrepair: System -> Administration -> Synaptic07:57
dacrepairok07:57
kcburyshakerok happy   ill try that07:57
concept10mencial, hold on im looking for you07:57
chrissturmtolstoy: i think startx is in x-window-system, and thats not supported07:57
ivoksterminus is the best font ever07:57
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Funraiserwhat can u do when a mousse (usb logitech) only works 30 secs and then disconnects? (for the german dude)07:57
Moe|Joe|Lhey07:58
chrissturmtolstoy: because normally gdm starts X07:58
mencialkcburyshaker: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ and Java installs flawlessly. Applets run in firefox. Do you need something more special?07:58
ivokstolstoy: there will allways be startx07:58
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kcburyshakerthat may work07:58
tolstoychrissturm, right.  I only disable gdm on start for breezy so I can still use the machine if, say, nvidia is removed out from under me.07:58
mencialconcept10: Thanks. I'm trying USB now...07:58
chrissturmtolstoy: i'm wrong, startx is there07:58
likkashotanybody has a nforce4 ultra motherboards in here07:59
tolstoyseems that gdm was also removed, but not the init script.07:59
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chrissturmtolstoy: try to install ubuntu-desktop07:59
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dacrepairahhhhh.......07:59
dacrepair thank you all07:59
tolstoyhah hah!  Session Menu  chooseSessionList Widget.  Wow! ;)  Kind of cool to see this stuff, actually.07:59
sysrqif you ask for support, you shouldn't be using breezy08:00
tolstoychrissturm, will do.  hadn't realized so much stuff was removed.08:00
Moe|Joe|Li got this error08:00
Moe|Joe|LFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted08:00
Moe|Joe|Lwen tryin this command08:00
chrissturmtolstoy: yesterday was a time when dist-upgrade would remove a lot of x stuff08:00
lxuserbut if click at your name it says that you country is Dinamarca...?08:00
Moe|Joe|L"modprobe ndiswrapper"08:00
chrissturmtolstoy: just only use "upgrade"08:00
tolstoysysrq, I'm just curious, not asking for support, like official-wise.08:00
lxuserand your name Tobias...?08:00
HappyFoolMoe|Joe|L: try 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"08:00
Moe|Joe|Lkk08:00
Moe|Joe|Lnoper08:00
Whistlerhow can i see my hhds?08:01
theinelxuser, indeed08:01
chrissturmanyone know how to get automount working with the breeezy kernel?08:01
Moe|Joe|Lsame error08:01
theinelxuser, out of curiosity... why are you asking?08:01
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lxuserbecause it's my second time in a IRC channel08:02
AySinkawww08:02
AySink;)08:02
theinelxuser, I see08:02
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tolstoychrissturm, thanks for the tips.  didn't realize stuff had gotten removed, which was what I needed to know. ;)08:02
Moe|Joe|Lcan anyone tink why im gettin this error wen try modprobe ndiswrapper?08:03
lxuserand i dont know how to work in this enviroment jajaja08:03
dacrepairok so i searched it, found it, went to the folder and it wasnt there, WTF!!08:03
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chrissturmtolstoy: i'm glad to help08:03
concept10mencial, The release notes state that you may install from USB but I couldnt find the docs to do it.  I guess you would have to place the proper .iso on your USB drive and boot from there08:03
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dacrepairo, nvm08:04
concept10Moe|Joe|L, what is the error again?08:04
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Moe|Joe|Lmoejoe@Jon-Ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper08:04
Moe|Joe|LFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted08:04
Moe|Joe|Land ive tired it without sudo aswell08:04
linuxfanDoes anyone know how to get php if you already have Apache web server??08:04
linuxfan**and MySQL08:04
HappyFoollinuxfan: look for php (and mysql) in synaptic -- it has a 'search' feature08:05
mencialconcept10: "Place the iso" means: A) cp ubuntu.iso /media/usb B) dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sda ?08:05
linuxfanwhat is synaptic, HappyFool?08:05
mencialconcept10: Sorry if I ask too much. I am trying the first and will try the second if it does not work.08:05
AySinklinuxfan : Also if you are after PHP5 a great place to look is wiki.ubuntu.com/PHP5FromSource08:05
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jde!synaptic08:05
ubotuit has been said that synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto08:05
linuxfanok08:06
linuxfanthank u\08:06
HappyFoollinuxfan: ubuntu's application mangagement tool08:06
mencialconcept10: Thanks for the help08:06
HappyFoollinuxfan: System -> Administration -> Synaptic08:06
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concept10mencial, im not sure.  try to copy the .iso to the usb drive with nautilus08:06
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AlexMBashello08:07
HappyFoolmencial: the install manual has this for usb: 'gzip -dc boot.img.gz >/dev/sda'08:07
lxusertheine: can i just dowload the packages and install them manually...?08:07
mencialconcept10: That's what I am doing first08:07
HappyFoolmencial: however, i couldn't find such a file on the install cd, hence my suspicion that this (and similar) was a debian instruction08:07
chombeeHey - anyone know what the interface sit0 might be in ifconfig -a08:07
chombee?08:07
mencialHappyFool: Where is that install manual?08:07
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lxuserit looks as my pc cant connect to the ubuntu servers...!08:08
AlexMBasdoes anyone have a problem were OpenOffice 1.1.x tries to close from time to time 'by it's own will' ?08:08
HappyFoolmencial: on the (hoary) install cd -- i see you referenced warty earlier08:08
firasRchombee:  it's the IPv6 interface for ur NIC08:08
HappyFoolmencial: ch04s03.html08:08
firasRchombee:  IPv6 comes enabled by default08:08
chombeeok08:08
chombeebrett - how do I find the correct .inf file for my wireless card?08:09
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tsume+e08:09
tsume*off08:09
mencialHappyFool: boot.img.gz would be a gzipped floppy image. There is one in a bootable CD; I should be able to extract it. But I think that dd'ing the whole .iso would have the same effect (making the usb hd bootable)08:10
lhbis it just me or is some of the ubuntu wiki documentation taken away?08:10
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HappyFoolmencial: i am not familiar with this08:11
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HappyFoolmencial: googling for 'boot.img.gz site:archive.ubuntu.com' reveals no hits08:11
lhbthere was a good tutorial on locales and i cant seem to find in the documentation section anymore08:11
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veronicahow do i get to a terminal in ubuntu??08:12
Rockett17ctrl+alt+f1 - 608:12
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veronicaare you serious?08:13
HappyFoollhb: hmm, you're right. the UserDocumentation page used to be *much* bigger08:13
lhbright click, open terminal08:13
veronicawhy the  -608:13
Rockett171 through 608:13
Rockett17take your pick08:13
Rockett177 is gui08:13
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dacrepairok now i found airsnort but i dont have my wireless card installed, do i need any system config or will the new hardware me configured automaticly on startup08:15
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AySinkveronica: Do you mean how to do you bring up a terminal window within X?08:16
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Brammeis there any way to let grub re-autodetect the OS's ?08:16
dacrepairyes08:16
dacrepairlemme think...08:17
dacrepairor let me try somptin08:17
ivanoxany idea what I can do to make numlock enabled by default!?08:17
ivanox(its not bios setting)08:17
Xappeivanox: apt-get install numlockx08:18
jdeivanox: You may have to write a small program for it, or search Ubuntu's wiki.08:18
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Micksawhy would the "suspend" and "hibernate" options not pop up in the log-out dialog?08:18
Micksaafter fixing /etc/default/acpi-support08:18
dacrepairbramme:type grub into the root terminal08:18
ivanoxXappe, thanks alot for that, but why isn't it on by default!?08:18
quidoffhow can I make nvidia-sattings -l load at startup?08:18
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HappyFoolquidoff: maybe add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh08:19
quidoffnvidia-settings -l, of course ;-)08:19
Brammedacrepair, yes ?08:19
AlexMBasDoes anynone here have had problems with OpenOffice 1.1.x and ubuntu?08:19
AlexMBason Ubuntu I mean08:20
BrammeAlexMBas, yes i had, but now i'm using the beta of 2.008:20
Brammeyou can find it in the universal respo's08:20
Bramme*repo's08:20
AySinkHow are you finding that Bramme? Did much change?08:20
dacrepairbramme:and then a bash command prompt should appear08:20
Brammedacrepair, yes08:20
chombeeHey - I'm trying to use ndiswrapper, I installed the Windows driver with ndiswrapper -i, I'm now trying to load the kernel module with sudo modprobe ndiswrapper and it's saying operation not permitte08:20
chombeed08:20
dacrepairbramme: ithink the command is boot08:20
BrammeAySink, it's very stable and the UI is thousand times better08:20
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quidoffok, and where exactly in this file? before :exit 0?08:20
umanhi all08:20
umanhi all08:21
AySinkExcellent - may have to check that out later08:21
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Brammedacrepair, Error 8: Kernel must be loaded before booting08:21
dacrepairhmmm08:21
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Bramme:(08:21
chombeetheine - I think you mentioned something about this earlier - modprobe doesn't work with the ndiswrapper-utils package?08:22
veronicaRockett17: thanks sunshine.....i was forgetting the ctrl button08:22
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dacrepairwhat kind of partition is it08:23
Brammedacrepair, what do you mean ?08:23
AlexMBasBramme: did it solve your problem? what was your problem?08:23
dacrepairall of them08:23
Brammehda is ext, hda4 is FAT3208:23
Brammehda = hda108:24
dacrepairalexmbas i cant remember the grub bash syntax for autodetecting your partitions08:24
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bartekphi08:25
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HappyFoolquidoff: yeah, i guess so. no sure what that ':' is for there08:25
quidoffok thx, I will test it. Just rebooting08:25
dacrepairhold on bramme, i'm calling a friend08:26
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ka7anamkay, got the wireless card working with ndis wrapper, allthought this howto -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926 is the one that worked for me08:27
chombeeFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper: Operation not permitted08:28
dacrepairmy best guess is to check gentoo handbooks installation guide08:28
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bojanhallo08:30
crazyhorsehi08:30
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brettchombee: did you `sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'?08:30
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chombeebrett - yeah, and it gives that message, operation not permitted08:31
testtcan someone please paste /etc/fstab in private, I installed ubuntu (had fedora before) and my /home partition is not beeing mounted08:31
bojanmay i ask you a question?08:31
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quidoffhi it didn't work. I put nvidia-settings --load-config-only  at the end of this file, but i didn't load08:31
brettchombee: apparently it's not uncommon.  But I really don't know why that happens08:31
crazyhorsebojan, you already did ;)08:31
bojan:)08:31
bojani have installed skype, but if i click it, it does not run08:32
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AlexMBasThanks Bramme, I'll try Open Office 208:32
HappyFooltestt: perhaps it would be better if you put your /etc/fstab and the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' up here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:32
HappyFooltestt: i'll put my fstab up there too, fwiw08:32
crazyhorsebojan, try starting it via xterm and look at the error message08:32
bojanok, thx08:33
testtHappyFool, I just found out what the problem is.. my /home partition is beeing recognized as a Win95 LFS08:33
testtdamn08:33
testtAnyway I can fix this?08:33
chombeebrett - a google search reveals a few people who've had it, but no solution. Does anyone know about modprobe ndiswrapper 'giving operation not permitted'?08:33
HappyFooltestt: weird08:33
testtHappyFool, acctualy this is it  W95 Ext'd (LBA)08:33
bojanahm ... how can i start it via xterm?08:33
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kimobojan, type skype!08:34
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testtHappyFool, anyway I can convert it to ext3 without loosing data08:34
testtI have everything there :008:34
HappyFooltestt: ah. those are extended partitions -- you should have a /dev/hda5 or something08:34
HappyFooltestt: which is the 'real' partition08:34
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bionicHow do i search for installed packages in Ubuntu 5.04?08:34
klaymhow can I apply 'apt-get install' for many applications? I'd like to install all needed multimedia plugins with one command08:34
HappyFooltestt: have you taken a look at 'sudo fdisk -l' ?08:34
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Kyynarawhat is the easiest way to install OpenGL?08:34
bojan@kimo, that does not work08:35
testtHappyFool, yup08:35
testtbut08:35
kimobojan, open a new terminal08:35
testtI have another hdd08:35
crazyhorsebionic, dpkg -l *package*08:35
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testtand that one has hdb508:35
bioniccrazyhorse, appreciate it, thanks.08:35
bojanok, and then?08:35
testtI don't have hda508:35
cameronwhoa, it just automatically puts me into the ubuntu help channel08:35
cameronhow did it know?08:35
kimobojan, type skype!08:35
Daveycameron: X-Chat is setup that way :)08:35
theotheoCan anyone tell me how to update the firefox browser in ubuntu 5.04?08:35
testtHappyFool, agrhhh I'm blind I ll try smth now Thanks for YOUR HELP!08:35
testt:)08:35
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Daveytheotheo: apt-get install firefix08:36
Daveytheotheo: apt-get install firefox08:36
cameronwell its a wize decision on the part of the ubuntu devs08:36
Daveyactually, its most likely apt-get install mozilla-firefox08:36
cameronbecause i have questions08:36
bojanskype: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:36
theotheoo.k. thanks, i'll go for it08:36
kimobojan, apt-get install qt3 (or may be qt!)08:36
cameronso there is a page on the wiki08:37
HappyFoolklaym: why not use synaptic instead ?08:37
cameronhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelBuildpackageHowto08:37
kimobojan, or download the static skype version08:37
klaymhappyfool: good question08:37
cameronand it is telling me to build linux-source-2.6.8.1, is that version out of date08:37
cameron?08:37
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bojanstatic skype version?08:37
chrissturmcameron: yep08:38
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chrissturmcameron: 2.6.10-5 is the recent08:38
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bojanjan@ToshibaSatellite:~$ sudo apt-get install qt308:38
bojanReading package lists... Done08:38
bojanBuilding dependency tree... Done08:38
bojanE: Couldn't find package qt308:38
cameronso i should sudo apt-get build-dep linux-source-2.6.10-5?08:38
HappyFoolcameron: a lot of the pages are from warty (release 4.10)08:38
kimobojan, try apt-get install qt08:38
bojanbojan@ToshibaSatellite:~$ sudo apt-get install qt08:39
bojanReading package lists... Done08:39
bojanBuilding dependency tree... Done08:39
bojanPackage qt is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:39
bojanThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or08:39
HablandocontigoI followed these instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodder?highlight=%28podcast%29 but I get this error: $ /usr/bin/iPodder Traceback (most recent call last):  File "iPodderGui.py", line 18, in ?     import wx ImportError: No module named wx         what could be the problem?08:39
bojanis only available from another source08:39
bojanE: Package qt has no installation candidate08:39
cameronive only been on linux for like 4 days now08:39
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cameronso08:39
cameronits crazy to me08:39
chrissturmcamron: why do you want to build a kernel?08:39
zOapI use 5.04 and want the debian sources as well as the ubuntu ones, to get more software. But when i paste the debian lines in sources.list it gives me error on update, signatures cannot be verified for following keys...08:39
HappyFoolbojan: try 'apt-cache search qt' -- you should see some libqt packages08:39
jdeIf you don't know how to use apt than either read the manual or stick with synaptic.08:39
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cameronchrissturm: ive been told that if you compile the kernel, it will be compiled in your comps native code and run somewhat more efficiently08:40
chrissturmcameron: dont do that08:40
bojanHappyFool: yes i do08:40
bionicHello, i get this when trying to run make menuconfig in the kernel source tree, You must install ncurses-devel in order to run make menuconfig. But theres no such package ncurses-devel. I searched for ncurses packages installed, and there was quite a bunch. Plain Ubuntu 5.04 install.08:40
naliothzOap: that is becasuse the debian src repos you are using have no gpg sig on your machine08:40
HappyFoolbojan: i would try libqt3c102, or libqt3c102-mt08:40
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fabbionebionic: apt-get install build-essential libncurses5-dev08:40
chrissturmcameron: its fine like its now. no need to compile a kernel08:40
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bojanHappyFool: what do you mean with try?08:41
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chombeeHow do I check the system log? (dmesg is telling me to check it for errors)08:41
chrissturmfabbione: do you have an idea why automounting doesnt work with the breezy kernel?08:41
GuBAHello, i need a problem in my Ubuntu Hoary ... :'(08:41
cameronchrissturm: well allright, i have other more important things to work on like wifi drivers i guess....08:41
mindspin:-)08:41
fabbionechrissturm: what version .12??08:41
HappyFoolbojan: i mean try to install one of those and see if skype then works ;)08:41
levanderGuBA: there are plenty of problems in hoary, just start looking around08:41
cameronThanks guys!08:42
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bojanHappyFool: ok, how can i install them?08:42
bionicfabbione, thank you08:42
chrissturmfabbione, the latest 12 package.08:42
fabbionebionic: welcome08:42
HappyFoolbionic: try libncurses5-dev08:42
fabbionechrissturm: no. i don't sorry.08:42
HappyFoolbojan: 'sudo apt-get install libqt3c102'08:42
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bionictrying :)08:42
fabbionechrissturm: let's wait 12 final before making too much noise upstream08:42
fabbionechrissturm: this is still 12rc608:42
fabbioneand i saw quite a big bunch of net fixes08:42
GuBAlevander, see my error --> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/11108:43
zOapnoone knows why apt-get dont wanna let me add debian sources to sources list?08:43
chrissturmfabbione, i know. i just would like to work with/on beagle, and for that i would need a newer inotify08:43
bojanHappyFool: and then skype should work?08:43
HappyFoolzOap: nalioth told you08:43
HappyFoolbojan: i don't know, i don't use it08:43
fabbionechrissturm: i uploaded 1.2 today with the latest inotify08:43
fabbionechrissturm: it's probably going around on the mirrors08:43
zOapHappyFool, didnt see that...08:43
fabbionechrissturm: also.. check the changelog before asking08:43
HappyFoolbojan: and the wiki's been rearranged so i can't easily find stuff like this08:44
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chombeeInstalled ndis drivers: lsbcmnds invalid driver!08:44
chrissturmfabbione, you mean a .10 kernel with new inotify?08:44
zOapnalioth, ok, what sources should i use then? or how do i add this key?08:44
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bionicWhen i download the linux-source-2.6.10 from synaptic, is the .config file the same that ubuntu 5.04 used?08:45
bojanHappyFool: it works!!! thank you very much. you're the best08:45
fabbionechrissturm: there will be no .10 with new inotify08:45
HappyFoolbojan: no problem ;)08:45
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fabbionechrissturm: breezy = .1208:45
HappyFoolbionic: i think the .config is in /boot08:45
HappyFoolbionic: e.g., i have /boot/config-2.6.10-5-38608:46
quidoffHappyFool: do you also have a good idea for my problem. writing nvidia-settings --load-config-only after the exit 0 didn't work08:46
bionicHappyFool, yeah it was there thanks, i can use that when i compile the new kernel ?08:46
chrissturmfabbione, i thought so. thats why i want to use the .12 kernel and thats why its so sad that automount doenst work with it. thanks for clearing that up.08:46
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fabbionechrissturm: no problem08:46
brettchombee: have you tried running everything (carefully) thru a root-terminal?08:47
chombeebrett - why? I was using sudo?08:47
zOapdoes anyone have a working sources.list for 5.04 with debian sources?08:47
HappyFoolquidoff: obviously i wasn't paying attention earlier -- it must come before the exit statement08:47
chrissturmz0ap: such a thing doesnt exist08:48
brettchombee: just a thought is all ;] 08:48
zaphodsomeone suggest a good RSS feedreader08:48
HappyFoolbionic: i'm not sure -- i think there's a kernel build howto on the wiki08:48
HappyFool!kernel08:48
ivanoxMozilla SAge08:48
HablandocontigoI followed these instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodder?highlight=%28podcast%29 but I get this error: $ /usr/bin/iPodder Traceback (most recent call last):  File "iPodderGui.py", line 18, in ?     import wx ImportError: No module named wx         what could be the problem?08:48
ivanoxzaphod, Mozilla Sage08:48
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zOapchrissturm, why? I need to get debian sources, and any other deiratives works fine with debian sources. Why not ubuntu?08:48
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brettzaphod: Liferea isn't horrible08:48
ivanoxnow u suggest me something fun to put on my desktop08:48
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chrissturmz0ap: all debian stuff is in universe/multiverse08:49
chrissturmz0ap: so you dont need it08:49
zOapok08:49
zaphodhow is RSSowl? it is a java app08:49
zaphodand how about straw?08:49
fritcomo he k altero a resoluao de 640*480 para 1280*102408:49
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kimoany non official kernels with swsusp2 ?08:50
KyynaraHow do I check if I have a working OpenGL?08:50
HappyFoolfrit: sorry, this is an english channel08:50
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HablandocontigoKyynara: glxinfo | grep direct08:51
HablandocontigoKyynara: if it says yes, you're okay08:51
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chombeebrett - tried, same result08:51
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brettchombee: it causes problems later on with updating linux-image (kernel) packages, but you may need to compile ndiswrapper from source08:52
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kimoany way to add swsusp2 ??08:52
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chombeebrett - I'm going to try another card, D-Link DWL-650+, it is detected at wlan0 but seems unsupported, ifup does not activate it08:54
KyynaraHablandocontigo: I have a strong feeling that this is not what I want http://pastebin.com/301045 :)08:55
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othernoobhow come amarok doesn't play .wav files?08:56
brettchombee: good luck to you!08:56
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HablandocontigoKyynara: I don't think it is either, I've had that before08:58
Howitzerplease help me at #flood :(08:58
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HablandocontigoKyynara: you know what's funnier, I just did glxinfo and have the same thing08:59
HablandocontigoKyynara: I'ma try to fix it right now and tell you what worked for me08:59
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KyynaraHablandocontigo: that would be great, thansk08:59
Kyynara*thanks08:59
HappyFoolHowitzer: i'm there.. what's the problem?08:59
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FunraiserIs Linux For Losers? http://www.forbes.com/business/businesstech/2005/06/16/linux-bsd-unix-cz_dl_0616theo.html09:01
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dsevillaargh09:02
JDigitalit's not for losers because I use lunix and I am awesome09:02
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dsevillakeyboard is not working again in breezy :(09:02
chrissturmdsevilla, yep09:02
chrissturm:(09:02
Chameleon22dsevilla, yet you are typing09:02
dsevillaxkbcomp is somewhat failing to load09:02
Chameleon22:p09:02
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dsevillaChameleon22, hehe, yeah, it is not working *properly* :)09:03
majorbi hva e a syslog question, is this an ok place to ask it ?09:03
concept10Funraiser, why have you been posting that link all day?09:03
Funraiserthat proves that linux is gaining some momemtum09:03
dsevillamy keymap falls back to us, but I have an spanish (es) keywboard09:03
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JDigitalyeah, Linux isn't perfect09:03
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joblil09:03
dsevillachrissturm, you know what the problem is?09:03
HablandocontigoKyynara: okay, do you have an nvidia graphics card?09:03
chrissturmdsevilla, dunno how to fix it09:03
Funraiserconcept10, all day? what are u talking about? it's the second time, nobody answered on the first time so i reposted!09:03
chombeeDoes anyone know of an easy way to install the acx100 driver for wireless cards?09:03
KyynaraHablandocontigo: yes09:04
dsevillachrissturm, or when it will be fixed?09:04
chrissturmdsevilla, i think it will soon be fixed09:04
cazabamchombee: I just put the card in and it worked ?09:04
dsevillachrissturm, thanks :)09:04
blacktoothJDigital:  World too09:04
dsevillachrissturm, that makes me less nervous :)09:04
JDigitals'true09:04
HablandocontigoKyynara: lucky you, this may work: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver it worked for me09:04
JDigitalat least Ubuntu is improving gradually09:04
chombeecazabam - that didn't happen for me, D-Link DWL-650+09:04
cazabamchombee: hehe, same card too! what did happen?09:05
mz2could somebody copy & paste me /etc/polypaudio/defaults.pa09:05
mz2i did a bit of erasing magic :)09:05
HappyFoolheh09:05
dsevillaI don't know what's happening with xkbcomp. Is also failing in amd64 too09:05
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JDigitalAmiga was pretty good as a desktop OS, but was tied to the hardware, and when that hardware went outdated and sank, the OS went down with the ship09:06
JDigitalmeanwhile all the other OSs were being developed and improved09:06
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chombeecazabam - the card is detected as wlan0 but is not activated, ifup tries to dhcp it but the lights on the card aren't on and it doesn't succeed09:06
blacktoothmz2:  awesome09:06
dsevillachrissturm, ok, it's nice to see that is not a problem of myself only. Every non-us keyboard using breezy is failing09:06
dsevillait will be fixed surely fast :)09:06
cazabamchombee: in that case the driver is loaded and it's just not finding your router or access point09:07
chrissturmdsevilla: i have a german keyboard, but my national characters dont work09:07
chrissturmbut the layout is still german09:07
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blacktoothchrissturm:  key map?09:07
dsevillachrissturm, yeah the same for me in spanish09:07
chombeecazabam - I don't think so, the dhcp wireless router is there, the lights on the wireless card are not coming on, there's a link light and a pwr light09:07
chrissturmblacktooth, ?09:08
blacktoothchrissturm:  key map problem...09:08
dsevillablacktooth, it's not a problem of keymap, but of xkbcomp failing09:08
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cazabamchombee: at a terminal, do: iwlist wlan0 scanning09:08
blacktoothchrissturm:  oh09:08
blacktoothchrissturm:  sorry -_-|||09:08
cazabamchombee: and iwconfig wlan009:08
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KyynaraHablandocontigo: it didn't work for me09:09
chrissturmit seems to be a libxklavier error09:09
cazabamchombee: just to see what it can see09:09
chombeecazabam - okay, the scan completed, and it gives some info09:09
chombeecazabam - it has detected the name of our router09:09
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chombeecazabam - cou;d it have gone through the wired connection to get that?09:09
dsevillachrissturm, yeah, maybe09:10
cazabamchombee: no, the iw* tools only do wireless - so it can see the router09:10
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cazabamchombee: check to make sure that the router doesn't require WEP or a specific MAC - open that thing up for the world :)09:11
nateHey can anybody tell me where to locate the "system log" ??09:11
Mwncii have a script i wrote that configures and connects the wireless card if i type ./wirelessup.sh into the console.  I tried adding a link to it in the kde menu but it doesnt seem to work. i have wirelessup.sh in the command   /home/jaffa/ in the work path  and run in terminal selected. all that happens is it opens a blank terminal and does nothing. any ideas?09:11
SFalconDual booting XP/Ubuntu on a RAID0 S-ATA Array.  Possible?09:12
crazyhorsenate, /var/log/syslog09:12
natecrazyhorse: Do you know how long the log is kept and what all it logs?09:13
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crazyhorsenate, once per day the log gets rotated, the older logs are named syslog.0, syslog.1 etc and are gzipped09:13
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nateok so would glitches from my nvidia drivers show up there?09:14
PrawntasmMy eth0 won't configure itself with DHCP. I've followed the instructions in the FAQ, but when I choose "DHCP" for my eth0 and click ok, it just shows the configuring window ticking away until I close it09:14
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crazyhorseafair are they kept one week by default09:14
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redboardoes ne1 know when hdparm will support SATA?09:14
natecrazyhorse: so nvidia driver problems would be in there too?09:14
likkashotim fixing those to09:15
chombeecazabam - woot! now what do we do? this other laptop I'm typing on is working fine through wireless09:15
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PrawntasmI'm running off a knoppix cd right now, but I can't get any networking on my ubuntu installation :(09:15
likkashotthis 64 system installs fast09:15
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chombeecazabam - it doesn't, just DHCP09:15
crazyhorsenate, nvidia uh..perhaps i can help you with that issue09:16
Kyynarajust to be sure... if I'm to download drivers from nvidias homepage, it should be linuxIA64 or LinuxIA32?09:16
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likkashotchombee im listening to09:16
natecrazyhorse: feel free to take a look http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=632521#post63252109:16
crazyhorseKyynara, unless you are on an athlon64, its IA3209:16
Kyynaraok09:16
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likkashotim i install the x86_64 drivers can i use amd64 k8 kernel??09:17
cazabamchombee: have you configured which network you want it to point at?09:17
cazabamlikkashot: you having similar problems?09:17
AySinkHey all - has anyone here managed to successfully get PHP5 working, from source, on Ubuntu? I followed the two wiki pages on it, and it's built and installed just fine but when I try to access a PHP page I get "child pid xxxx exit signal Segmentation fault" in Apache2/errors.log.09:18
crazyhorsenate, which nvidia version do you have?09:18
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natecrazyhorse: I'm using the 7174 right now...but it does it will all the 7xxx series.09:19
natecrazyhorse: never had this problem with the 662909:19
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crazyhorsenate, mh, what about downgrading to 6629?09:20
nateI don't know how :(09:20
nateIs it anything like upgrading to the 7664 ?09:20
holycowhey guys, whats the general scoop on digital cameras and linux?  do most of them get mounted as block devices when plugged into usb port?09:20
nateholycow: mine works that way....not bad either09:21
cazabamholycow: all decent cameras do. the little 'webcam' style ones tend not to09:21
TheMolehey guys, maybe it's just me but I've added all the repositories (uni/multiverse) and still can't find w32codecs/libdvdcss/azureus etc...09:21
crazyhorsenate, for that you would need to uninstall the ubuntu package and compile the module by yourself but wait, the 6xxx aren't compliant with 2.6.10... mh09:21
holycowokay thats awesome, don't need to worry about models and makes too much then?09:21
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simoneHi... did my first ubuntu install ever. First experience with debian ... very limited experience with Mandrake Linux. I tried to run an AVI- file but got the following message: Totem could not play file due to missing decoders. What should I do?09:21
holycow*nod* on webcam dealies09:21
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HappyFoolTheMole: for those i think you might need backports. Take a lookt at wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or ubuntuguide.org for more09:22
holycowsimone, go the ubuntu website, search for w32codecs ... download that first09:22
holycowsimone, second remove totem-gstreamer and install totem-xine09:22
HappyFoolsimone: take a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:22
natecrazyhorse: ya and I don't really want to go back to the 2.6.9 kernel...I had a lot of problems on that kernel09:22
TheMoleI assume there is no backports repo for breezy?09:22
cazabamholycow: as long as you go for the 'big' makes (olympus, fuji, kodak, etc...)09:22
holycowthose two steps will get you playing most video streams09:22
crazyhorsenate, sure09:22
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holycowcazabam, neato, thank you09:23
crazyhorsenate, that's why proprietary drivers suck :/09:23
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cazabamholycow: no probs09:23
natecrazyhorse: ya true.. this sucks the 7664 drivers got me about 20fps more in CS:S too09:24
dsevillammm... also, if you dist-upgrade breezy, amule get's removed09:24
dsevillaany workarounds for that?09:24
simoneThanks holycow09:24
holycowsimone, no worreis09:24
crazyhorseokay, i really need some breakfast now ;)09:25
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cazabamdsevilla: reinstall after upgrade? failing that don't upgrade to breezy on a production machine!09:25
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quidoffok I know that I'm n00b, but how can I load a command at startup?09:26
natecrazyhorse: I guess I'm screwed?09:27
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HappyFoolquidoff: bootmisc.sh not working?09:27
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eb0xCan someone help me with a terminal problem?09:27
cazabameb0x: sounds serious!09:28
eb0xWhen I open my terminal, it doesn't come up with a place that I can type09:28
eb0xThe place that's normally white where i can type is all black09:28
AySinkHey all - has anyone here managed to successfully get PHP5 working, from source, on Ubuntu? I followed the two wiki pages on it, and it's built and installed just fine but when I try to access a PHP page I get "child pid xxxx exit signal Segmentation fault" in Apache2/errors.log.09:28
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cazabamis that gnome-terminal?09:28
eb0xya09:28
TheMolequidoff: startup as in as ubuntu boots, or as in when you get into Gnome/KDE?09:28
dsevillacazabam, yeah :) I won't use breezy for that09:29
dsevillacazabam, just playing09:29
cazabamdsevilla: :)09:29
HappyFoolTheMole: re ubuntu backports -- see ubuntuguide.org09:29
eb0xcandyban: Ya it's gnome-terminal09:29
eb0xer09:29
eb0xcazabam*09:29
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nateoh heres a good questions for someone....why can't I install Crossover Office?  It gives me an error09:30
blacktoothHappyFool:  ubuntu backport?09:30
dsevillanate, haha, nice09:30
dsevillanow you have an error09:30
blacktoothHappyFool:  amazing09:30
HappyFoolblacktooth: unofficial, afaik09:31
nate"$HOME" must exist and belong to you in order for the installation to proceed. You may need to log in as root or use su rather than sudo09:31
HappyFoolblacktooth: and occasionally breaks things09:31
zythnate: so open a root terminal09:31
nateok watch the error it'll give me as root....lol09:31
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cazabameb0x: hehe I'm just trying to remember I heard about a problem with gnome-terminal09:31
quidoff@HappyFool: No bootmisc.sh didnt' work. I put nvidia-settings --load-config-only one line under exit 0 but it didn't load09:31
blacktoothHappyFool:  @@|||09:31
som1i used apt-get to get the new kernel. it seems i cant run kernel now (cant open dev/console). what can i do?09:31
HappyFoolnate: try 'sudo -H <command>'09:31
HappyFoolquidoff: it must come *before* exit09:31
eb0xcazabam: Oh09:32
HappyFoolquidoff: 'exit 0' exits the script09:32
som1i was pretty sure it worked before so i didnt jump to this..09:32
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som1hi happyfool :009:32
som1:)09:32
nateXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server    /   Xlib: No protocol specified09:32
blacktooth(o really)09:32
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HappyFoolevening som109:32
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poningruare we turning into the gentoo people now?09:33
eb0xcazabam: What terminal do you use?09:33
nateSame error with the sudo -H command too09:33
quidoffok I put nvidia-settings --load-config-only before exit 0   testing... rebooting... will be back in some mintes09:34
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InvisHello, is there any debs for any good C++ IDEs?09:34
HappyFoolnate: well, one way to get it to work might be to enable the root user and login as root. not sure if there's an alternative09:35
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Cooner750Hi09:35
HappyFoolsom1: how did you upgrade your kernel, and how does is your system broken now?09:35
nateaight how do I enable the root user?09:35
natelol never needed it before really except on my FC3 box09:36
InvisI wrote some code in c that uses gtk2 libs, but when i try to compile it it says that i need those gtk libs even they are installed, any problem sollution?09:36
maruchanany tips in getting avidemux installed09:36
HappyFoolnate: 'sudo passwd' -- and enter some password for root09:36
natedid that already09:36
som1HappyFool: me starting ubuntu, kernel panic (pivot_root: No such file or directory, /sbin/init: 428: cannot open dev/console: No such file)09:36
zythsom1, shouldn't it be /dev/console ?09:37
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som1im just saying what it wrote to me09:37
HappyFoolok, now you need to login as root -- either logout and login, or use Applications -> System Tools -> New login09:37
zythRockett17, it's the Canadian Red Cross... they've hardly got a stellar rep of late in general ;)09:37
Rockett17too true09:37
holycowRockett17, what do they use? exchange?09:38
Rockett17yeah09:38
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holycow*giggle*09:38
holycowthat should be good09:38
zythit's 12:37 on a friday here, and I'm still unemployed.... gotta love living in a small town!09:38
Rockett17and they're big thin client people09:38
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zythso everything is central09:38
Rockett17everything runs on a TS session09:38
zythheh09:38
quidoffhm. didn't work09:38
HappyFoolsom1: hmm. you used apt-get or synaptic to do the kernel upgrade?09:38
zythif one goes down.. bewm09:38
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som1oh. i think it was synpatic09:38
Rockett17we have about 40 of them :)09:38
quidoffmaybe I have to put the path before the command09:38
zythRockett17, harsh, lol09:39
som1i think i puked more than my whole stomach09:39
maruchanany tips in getting avidemux installed, it wont isntall09:39
som1interesting.09:39
holycow*sigh*09:39
Kyynarahmm... I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers from ww.nvidia.com but it wants to know the kernel-source tree, how do I give the kernel source to it?09:39
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holycowi can't believe people keep on using windows09:39
Rockett17and here is sit.. secure shell'd into my nix server at home and on the ubuntu channel09:39
Rockett17:D09:39
crazyhorselol *using* windows =)09:39
HappyFoolquidoff: did you see any errors on boot?09:39
Rockett17yep yep09:39
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zythholycow, hey, I have a nice, 100% stable windows server here.  It doesn't DO anything.  But it's up. ;)09:39
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som1Kyynara - to save you the trouble, use the linux packages09:40
abbot45can someone help me edit my xorg.conf file so i can get my resolution right?09:40
som1i mean ubuntu09:40
som1sorry09:40
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HappyFoolKyynara: you probably need a linux-headers-* package, like linux-headers-386 or -686 or -k7 -- depending on your kernel image09:40
poningruabbot45: whats wrong?09:40
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HappyFoolsom1: and there were no errors during the upgrade?09:40
quidoffhm sry I didn't watch. I just returned and saw that nvidia-settings hadn't load09:40
KyynaraHappyFool: thanks09:40
som1no happyfool09:40
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som1i dont think there was anything09:41
som1im pretty sure i rebooted after it09:41
likkashotGrrrr nvidia mobo giving me headaches09:41
cazabamhappyfool kyynara: last time I installed the Nvidia drivers from the site, they said they wanted a 'configured' kernel tree!09:41
likkashotoh me to09:41
likkashotgrrr09:41
abbot45poningru, i just need to add vertical & horizontal refresh rates i believe, but i dont remember how i need to edit the file.09:41
cazabamnforce is a headache and an a**eache at the same time09:41
likkashotforgot the command09:41
som1last time i was there, it wanted runlevel 309:41
HappyFoolcazabam: for most modules you should only need linux-headers-* -- it has the config info for the kernel image09:41
likkashotno precompiled kernel09:42
poningruhold on abbot4509:42
ubuntuJust loaded the live CD for the first time. Is there a way to access the C: drive (fat32)09:42
likkashotI did a apt-get blabla k7 last night and it worked09:43
likkashotwhats the blabla I dont remember09:43
ka7anaubotu, mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /mnt/win109:43
ubotuka7ana: Are you smoking crack?09:43
ka7anaubotu, nope09:44
ubotuka7ana: Wish i knew09:44
som1likkashot, what did you install yesterday?09:44
HappyFoolubuntu: look maybe in Places -> Computer; maybe it's there. otherwise use ka7ana command09:44
HappyFoolka7ana: (ubotu's a bot, in case you don't know ;)09:44
Rockett17 likkashot>09:44
ka7anai noticed09:44
Rockett17woops09:44
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Rockett17iggy that likka :)09:44
likkashotthe precompiled kernel and stuff u need to install the nvidia drivers09:45
ubuntuThx Ka7ana !09:45
ka7ana:P09:45
likkashotbut I keep reinstalling and not backing up09:45
likkashotnice09:45
likkashothahah09:45
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ka7anamy first experiences with Linux in 1998 were discovering the magic of mount :P09:45
HappyFoollikkashot: image is linux-image-386, headers for module compiles are linux-headers-386 (or -686, -k7, whatever)09:46
som1use the ubuntu packages09:46
som1likkashot, use the ubuntu packages09:46
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likkashoti got those already09:46
som1uh09:46
som1change modules and the x config file09:46
lukus001can somone help me with my ubuntu or is this not the right type of place? =P09:46
som1yes its the right place lukus00109:46
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HappyFoollukus001: this is the right place09:47
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lukus001i cant install anything.. terminal say no file or directory even for sudo -s -H09:47
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HappyFoolsom1: unfortunately i'm not sure what you can do to fix your system09:47
som1yeah, ill make my friend happy and install bsd09:47
KaOsAnyone know some good repositries for misc apps like Amatur stuff.. ?09:48
KyynaraHappyFool: it didn't work with the header files...09:48
KaOsAmateur *09:48
synd_KaOs: amateur stuff?09:48
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hbandhi, please check this band: www.gabor13.com do you like it?09:48
ka7anasom1, i use bsd09:48
KaOsAmateur Radio09:49
lukus001anyone know how i can get java and stuff to install... the example in the documentation not to mention forums dont work09:49
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Kyynarabut it also says I can give the kernel-source with the --kernel-source-[something]  command, know anything about that?09:49
synd_lukus001: www.ubuntuguide.org09:49
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synd_ubotu09:49
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HappyFoolKyynara: what does the output of 'uname -r' say ?09:49
HappyFoolKyynara: and what headers package did you install ?09:50
kcburyshakeris it just me  or is gdesklets a POS09:50
lukus001synd ive followed that website i just get no directory or file errors09:50
kcburyshakeri cant get nothing in gdesklets to run09:50
synd_lukus001: ?09:50
synd_kcburyshaker: did you install it from the apt?09:50
Kyynarauname -r gave me this: 2.6.10-5-38609:50
kcburyshakerya09:50
lukus001i've followed the guide to install java on that website, i just get "no such file or directory"09:50
Kyynaraand the headers i installed were for 38609:51
kcburyshakerno wait  installed from terminal09:51
synd_kcburyshaker: ive had troubles with gdesklets as well09:51
kcburyshakerusing that help guide09:51
HappyFoolKyynara: hrm09:51
Cooner750brb. updating09:51
kcburyshakerit isnt very important to me  just a  nice thing to have09:51
synd_kcburyshaker: i just went with the more recent version available on the gdesklets site09:51
kcburyshakerahhhh09:51
synd_and it works for me09:51
KyynaraHappyFool: you may specify the kernel source path with the09:51
Kyynara       '--kernel-source-path' commandline option.09:51
kcburyshakeroh well   no biggie09:51
synd_kcburyshaker: you could cry gkrellm09:52
pepsix is broken in breezy again :D i got it working, but its still very angry at me :)09:52
Kyynarathat's what it says in the log file... nvidia-installer.log09:52
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kcburyshakeri have no idea how to install anything on linux manually09:52
kcburyshakergkrellm?09:52
synd_kcburyshaker: thats also available in the apt, ive had good success with it. it seems to be more stable/organized09:52
synd_kcburyshaker: yes09:52
kcburyshakerwhere would that be in synaptic09:52
ka7anamost of the shit is not in synaptic09:53
ka7anaapt-get is your friend09:53
HappyFoolKyynara: hmm. just a moment09:53
ka7anacheck www.debian.org09:53
PrawntasmMy computer seems to associate eth0 with my 8139too at bootup, but dhclient broadcasts a bunch of DHCPDISCOVERs and never gets anything back. Any ideas?09:53
Prawntasmifconfig09:53
synd_ka7ana: whatevers in synaptic is avail from apt get and vice versa09:53
lukus001anyone know why i getting "no such file or directory" with every terminal code... "sudo -s -H" followed by my password generate the same error... =(09:53
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synd_ka7ana: they retrieve from the same sources.list09:54
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HappyFoollukus001: 'sudo -s -H' does not work at all?09:55
lukus001not at all09:55
lukus001im getting no such file or directory, even with copy and pasted code from ubuntuguide.org09:55
ka7anasynd, wow i had the impression that only a few packages were available fia synaptic :P09:55
synd_kcburyshaker: for beginners, Synaptic is fine.09:55
synd_ka7ana: no, theres quite a few in there.09:55
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HappyFoollukus001: if the error is a single line, can you cut and paste it here09:55
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lukus001/bin/bash: kangaroo: No such file or directory09:56
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zythhas anyone taken the comptia Linux+ certification?09:57
HappyFoollukus001: what command do you type? 'sudo -s -H kangaroo' ?09:57
lukus001wrong line09:57
lukus001no it asked for my password after..09:57
lukus001then returnde that09:57
kcburyshakersynd  thanks   i installed gkrellm09:57
lukus001ill do it on the failed java attem code09:57
kbrookslukus001, ls -l /bin/sh09:57
HappyFoollukus001: what's exact command you typed to get that error?09:57
kbrooksdoes it link to anything else? because if it doesn't, you probably removed a package09:58
lukus001i typed sudo -s -H kangaroo09:58
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HappyFoollukus001: what is 'kangaroo' ?09:59
xirtamwhen i run apt-get update i get an GPG-error: W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: Couldn't access keyring: No such file or directory09:59
xirtamany ideas about that?09:59
lukus001password?09:59
synd_kcburyshaker: no problem09:59
HappyFoollukus001: oh09:59
HappyFoollukus001: no, it will prompt you for a password09:59
lukus001i asumed you had to add it on the end because adding after does nout09:59
synd_kcburyshaker: there are quite a few plugins avail thru synaptic as well. just type "gkrellm" in the search field.09:59
HappyFoollukus001: oh right09:59
HappyFoollukus001: if you've entered the password 'recently', it won't ask again10:00
HappyFoollukus001: only enter a password if asked for one, in other words10:00
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lukus001okay10:00
kcburyshakerthats what i did10:00
kcburyshakertrying to find where it installed to in the menu10:00
HappyFoolKyynara: let's try this: --kernel-source-path=/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build10:01
lukus001well.. i follwed the code to install sun-j2re1.510:01
lukus001it say cant find package now10:01
lukus001so thats progress10:01
lukus001how do i make it find it :s10:01
xirtamwhen i run apt-get update i get an GPG-error: W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: Couldn't access keyring: No such file or directory ... any ideas?10:01
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linuxfanhello10:02
linuxfancan anyone help me10:02
HappyFoollukus001: i'm afraid i'm not familiar with installing java. have you added the 'backports' repositories that ubuntuguide.org recommends ?10:02
likkashotyoo10:02
lukus001is that the one where it get you to add a few urls then run apt get?10:02
linuxfanHow can I install PHP and MySQL? (i alrady have apache web server)10:02
linuxfanFor Ubuntu10:02
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HappyFoollukus001: yeah10:02
lukus001i done that10:02
Inviswhy when i run programs from command line xserver rejects them?10:03
lukus001that worked10:03
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HappyFoollinuxfan: use Synaptic and search for php and mysql (System -> Administration -> synaptic)10:03
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linuxfanok, thank u10:03
lukus001but it still doesnt find the "package"10:03
HappyFoollukus001: let me just look at the ubuntuguide instructions... one sec10:03
lukus001ok, thank you10:03
HappyFoollukus001: you have run 'sudo apt-get update', right?10:04
lukus001yeah, ill do it again now though10:04
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lukus001and now thats all done10:05
husherdoes ubuntu have some centralized package repository (like gentoo's portage, for example)?10:05
HappyFoollukus001: can you paste your sources.list here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:05
HappyFoolhusher: there is a package management system (apt) -- not sure what portage is10:05
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HappyFoolhusher: try 'man apt-get' and maybe 'man dpkg' -- and also Synaptic (gui for all this): System -> Admin -> Synaptic10:06
klaymhow do I set my icons from a certain size to another?10:06
husherHappyFool: it's a lot like apt; i was really looking for some kind of browsable package database10:06
jbroomesynaptic will let you browse and search available programs/packages10:06
HappyFoolhusher: maybe packages.ubuntu.com -- otherwise synaptic is .. err. browsablish. or aptitude10:06
husherHappyFool: i'm considering a switch from Gentoo, but I'd like to see a list of packages first10:07
lukus001ok done tha i think10:07
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HappyFoollukus001: do you have an URL for me ?10:07
HappyFoollukus001: i.e., where you ended up after the paste10:07
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lukus001http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/113 right10:08
HappyFoollukus001: yip10:08
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Trixhello I am currently user of gentoo distribution but I was thinking of giving Ubuntu a try10:08
Trixso I am windering a few things10:09
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Trixwondering...10:09
amrietta3hi10:09
HappyFoollukus001: hmm, that's not quite right10:09
Trixwhich versions of software can I get with apt-get or synaptic10:09
HappyFoolTrix: take a look at packages.ubuntu.com10:10
Trixthank you HappyFool10:10
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lukus001the fact the source is right.. or because its wrong?10:10
husherhas anyone here switched from Gentoo to Ubuntu?10:11
Trixhehe10:11
Trixhusher: I am just think of it10:11
HappyFoollukus001: no, you've just made some minor errors ... one sec10:11
Trix:)10:11
lukus001ah ok10:11
HappyFoollukus001: try this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/11410:12
husherTrix: me too; i'm tired of waiting for packages to compile10:12
HappyFoollukus001: or recopy the one from ubuntuguide.org10:12
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tecywiz121hey agian10:12
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Trixhusher: I have been using gentoo or three years and I want change10:12
HappyFoollukus001: you can cut-and-paste the one from ubuntuguide.org if you prefer10:12
lukus001then try install java again?10:12
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HappyFoollukus001: yeah10:13
HappyFoollukus001: at this point i'll warn you that not everyone thinks backports is all that great10:13
tecywiz121just wondering if anyone know how to install java in X84_64?10:13
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husherTrix: me too.  My computer's running too well; I can't stand it :)10:13
lukus001well, i dont even know what im doing in all honesty im just doing what the guide says10:13
mike595hi i am fairly new with ubuntu, can anyone help me10:13
mike595i am trying to install a tar.gz file10:14
lukus001damn window's xp messed my head up ^^10:14
simoneHi... followed advice to get avi's up and running... removed totem -gstreamer and installed totem-xine.... Now the AVI movie plays except that I do not have any sound. The system-sounds still work, but the movie-sound is not functioning? What did I do wrong?10:14
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HappyFoollukus001: well, if anything breaks in the future be sure to mention that you're using backports as part of your question ;)10:14
lukus001i still got the same problem even with the code from that link you gave me10:14
tecywiz121anyone?10:14
Trixhow fast are the packages in ubuntu updated after source has been marked stable from developer???10:14
lukus001java still wont install... is it because i have gb.archive in the url not us.archive10:15
HappyFoolTrix: a release is made every six months10:15
LathropWellsHow do i enter the " ^ " in the command  ^A c   ?10:15
jbroomectrl10:15
tecywiz121just wondering if anyone know how to install java in X84_64?10:15
Trixhmm10:15
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HappyFoolTrix: ubuntu isn't really bleeding edge ;)10:15
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ivanoxif the system just freezes after having installed the latest nvidia driver and changed driver to "nvidia" in xorg.conf could that be driver problem, or broken hardware?10:15
LathropWellsThanks10:15
jbroomeHappyFool: i think Trix was talking about security updates, not complete OS revisions10:16
HappyFoollukus001: if you have a correct sources.list and the command doesn't work, i'm not sure10:16
HappyFooljbroome: ok, oops10:16
Trixjbroome: exactly and upgrading to latest versions of software10:16
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tecywiz121or how bout getting firefox i36810:16
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HappyFooljbroome: ah-ha! so doth the gentoo user reveal itself! ;)10:17
lukus001i guess there no harm in chaing my gb.archive link for the us10:17
kbrooksmeh10:17
tritiumTrix, once a stable release is made, no updates (other than security update) are made until the next release.10:17
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Trixwhen new version of for example evolution is released how long does it take to be availible through apt-get10:17
HappyFoollukus001: they should be identical (the two sites)10:17
Trixone week? one day?10:18
lukus001then why have the two oO lol10:18
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jbroomeHappyFool: nope, i'm on hoary right now10:18
HappyFoollukus001: for load balancing10:18
tecywiz121ideas on how to get java working?10:18
lukus001ahh10:18
HappyFooljbroome: i meant trix's question, not you ;)10:18
tritiumTrix, if the new version is not a security fix, it won't be updated until the next release, unless you decide to run the development release (e.g. breezy, right now)10:18
HappyFooljbroome: supposed to be funny, nevermind :)10:19
lukus001never changeda thing anyway10:19
lukus001if i download the file from the website to my desktop, how can i install it from that?10:19
tritiumtecywiz121, install java-package, download Sun's binary installer, use make-jpkg (see docs in /usr/share/doc/java-package)10:19
HappyFoollukus001: try 'apt-cache search jre' -- do you get anything?10:19
Trixi just dont know ...  from gentoo to ubuntu... to gentoo or to ubuntu this is the question :)10:19
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Trixhe10:20
holycowhttp://www.teaser.fr/~hfiguiere/linux/digicam.html  <-- awesome reference page for linux and digital cameras10:20
HappyFoolTrix: what do you require from a distro?10:20
hushertritium: so, how soon after release do packages make it into the development release, typically?10:20
lukus001i get some docbook thing...10:21
tritiumhusher, a few weeks, on average, perhaps.  difficult to say, as it varies10:21
HappyFoollukus001: and that's it?10:21
lukus001did u mean jre or j2re aswell ;)10:21
TrixHappyFool: i have everything i want from gentoo, but i am bored and want some changes in my life,... :))10:21
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HappyFoollukus001: oops10:21
HappyFoollukus001: j2re10:21
HappyFoolTrix: heh10:21
simonesorry to repeat question: I installed totem-xine. It is now playing my avi's but without sound. My system sounds that comes with the desktop still works, but no movie sounds? What should I do to get sound working?10:21
HappyFoolTrix: go on holiday ;)10:21
lukus001nothing10:21
husheri'm looking for what Trix wants, but with bleeding edge packages :)10:21
lukus001coman not found10:22
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lukus001command* sorry10:22
HappyFoollukus001: eh?10:22
GNULinuxersimone, tell xine to use esd as the sound driver10:22
HappyFoollukus001: 'apt-cache search j2re'10:22
caonexanybody using vnc through ssh tunnel?10:22
Trixhow is with nforce2 soundstorm soundcard in ubuntu?10:22
lukus001my fualt i mised the - out... i got invalid operation j2re10:22
HappyFoollukus001: you need 'search' as well10:23
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lukus001rofl not my day :'(10:23
tuxrocksCan anyone help me???10:23
tritiumlukus001, I'd recommend java-package so that your j2re will be under package management.  (You'll build a .deb from Sun's installer)10:23
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tuxrocksi get a message saying that i have 1 broken package on my system when i am in Synaptic10:24
lukus001i done it properly this time.. it just retuirned with the root@verpix:/home10:24
lukus001i.e. nothing10:24
tuxrockswhat should i do to fix that?10:24
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HappyFoollukus001: then sun-j2re1.5 is not in backports, or something else is wrong. Seveas said the ubuntuguide.org was wrong regarding this -- perhaps it is10:25
HappyFoollukus001: perhaps you should follow tritium's advice10:25
simoneGNULinuxer, how do I tell xine to use esd as the sound driver?10:25
tuxrocksi get a message saying that i have 1 broken package on my system when i am in Synaptic10:25
tuxrockswhat should i do to fix that10:25
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lukus001what java package? exactly though10:25
tritiumtuxrocks, backports are unadvisable10:25
tuxrockswhat do u mean?10:25
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HappyFoollukus001: see wiki.ubuntu.com/Java10:26
lukus001ok.. thank you10:26
tritiumtuxrocks, they make upgrading to the next stable release a pain, for one thing10:26
tuxrocksoh10:26
tuxrocksso should i worry about the message?10:26
theotheoHello, does anyone know how to make dvd-movies play in ubuntu 5.04, i can't get dvdcss installed10:26
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tweektuxrocks, totse?10:27
HappyFooltheotheo: you have followed the instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?10:27
tuxrocksdoes anyone know any good beginner's guides to Ubuntu??10:27
tuxrocksi could use one, lol10:27
HappyFooltuxrocks: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is a start10:27
tritiumtuxrocks, http://ubuntuguide.org/, but some of it is bogus advice10:27
tuxrocksthanks!!10:28
theotheoNo i didn't, for i don't know the page, i'll take a look, thanks10:28
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HappyFoolin some sane parallel universe ubuntu is allowed to distribute dvd and mp3 players on the install cd, and this channel is much quieter10:31
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ivanoxif I have fucked up my kernel what can I do?10:31
shekharhello all, could someone help me establishing a gprs connection with my bluetooth modem in hoary?10:32
Trixunfuck it10:32
HappyFoolyou can hope you haven't removed the standard kernel images10:32
airoxHi, how can I allow my own user to mount iso's without sudo ?10:32
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tweekivanox the kernels need lovin'10:32
airoxchmod +s on root or something ?10:32
tweek-s10:32
exobotHi, can anyone help with a WPC54G wireless card install using ndiswrapper please? D:10:32
LokeDKHow do I control which services should start up when booting ubuntu?10:32
ivanoxtweek, I took it a bit to hard I fear10:32
tweekwerd10:33
pepsibreezy is brokeass :D10:33
tweekwhat did you do to it10:33
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ivanoxinstalled nvidia kernel and it broke10:33
exobotanyone?10:33
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djm62LokeDK: update-rc.d10:34
HappyFoolairox: i'd stick with sudo, or just use nautilus (there's some plugin to browse iso's)10:34
tweekivanox i have to goto work :\10:34
tweeksorry10:34
ivanoxwtf =(10:35
LokeDKthx djm6210:35
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airoxHappyFool: I'm using a right mouse button menu to mount iso's in kde. So I wanted to let my own user to do this :)10:35
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airoxI'm the only user on the system.10:35
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orhshey all!10:36
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HappyFooldoesn't kde have an equivalent to gnome's 'fileroller' ?10:36
heimdallHi all !10:36
airoxWell I need to mount images to let other programs use it.10:36
HappyFoolairox: you can *try* setting mount suid, i guess, but i wouldn't recommend it10:36
kcburyshakerOMG!!!!!   i just did something with ubuntu i never could do with fedora!  i just played a dvd10:36
kcburyshakerok  now ubuntu rocks10:36
orhslol10:36
AySinklol10:36
airoxTrue.10:36
airox:)10:36
HappyFoolairox: ah, fair enough10:36
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kcburyshakerfedora never did read my hardware right10:37
kcburyshakerbut this rocks10:37
exobotWith ndiswrapper, when I dmesg it gives me 3 errors of "wlan0: no IPv6 routers present" :10:37
exobotPlease, anyne help? D:10:37
kcburyshakerim a very happy user and will tell friends about this now10:37
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orhswell iam missing my WIFI on ubuntu... spent 4 hours on it then i had to re-install my comp :P10:37
Cooner750ok back10:37
heimdallHappyFool remember me ?10:38
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heimdallhow are you ?10:38
exobotI'm a unhappy user :(10:38
Cooner750running Ubuntu on a AMD Athlon XP 3200 right now :)10:38
airox:))10:38
orhsanyone know any good/fun programs to download? just lovin the apt-get command :P10:38
HappyFoolheimdall: hi there. fine thanks, how are you?10:39
orhswhy exobot?10:39
HappyFoolorhs: supertux10:39
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HappyFoolorhs: browse the 'games' section in universe. lots of time-wasting apps there10:39
heimdallHappyFool : well fine too thx, I just have maybe found something for me problem10:39
heimdallHappyFool : can I ask you what do you think of what I've found ?10:40
exobotorhs: Because my wireless isn't working D:10:40
HappyFoolheimdall: sure10:40
heimdallokay, I found this page just 2 min ago :) http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23252.html10:41
orhsexobot, well just pend some hours on getting ndiswrapper and installing the drivers, type much code10:41
exobotI have.10:41
heimdallit seems that this guy is describing exactly the same problem as me10:41
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eisregenhi =)10:41
heatherhi10:42
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shekharanyone know how to dial a gprs connection in ubuntu?10:42
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HappyFoolheimdall: so have you tried it?10:43
heimdallHappyFool : I can try to disable 'acpi' (enven if for the moment I don't know what it is) but it seems that it is not the solution all time10:43
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heimdallsince it didn't work for someone there10:43
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HappyFoolheimdall: let me just check... i think acpi is power management10:43
heimdallHappyFool : well I don't know what 'acpi' means, and if I have to install again to disable it10:43
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battlecathow do you look at a FAT32 partition with WinXP from Ubuntu Gnome?10:44
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HappyFoolheimdall: no, you should be able to tweak grub for that10:44
Octane-wrkhi all has anyone here gotten a Marvell 88E8053 gigabit NIC working?10:44
heimdallHappyFool : oh ok10:45
licketybattlecat, mount -t vfat /dev/hd?# /mnt/dir10:45
eisregenI've just ubuntu 5.04 for amd64 .... uhm ... .what can I say except gnome starts up and hangs .... not that I expected gnome to work at all .... but what runlevel does Ubuntu use for multiuser/no-x envoironment ? ... and whats the apt-get param to install KDE ?10:45
eisregen*installed10:45
battlecatOh I see Lickety is there no other way than throught the terminal10:45
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HappyFoolheimdall: (from google) : ACPI is short for "Advanced Configuration and Power Interface"10:46
mjrOctane-wrk, I seem to have a "Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter (rev 13)" on this box and mostly working; dunno if it's that spesific model10:46
licketybattlecat, you can modify the /etc/fstab file10:46
battlecatoh ok thanks10:46
battlecatIll try the first way10:46
HappyFooleisregen: ubuntu doesn't work like that (runlevels for X)10:46
heimdallHappyFool : ok, but did you notice that it is not always the solution to disable it ?10:46
Octane-wrkmjr:  thanks for the answer, no thats not the same thing :( i wish i had a yukon --it would work!10:46
heimdallHappyFool : you can look here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2548710:46
HappyFooleisregen: you can try shutting down gdm: 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'10:46
licketyeisregen, I would guess that the no X run level is 310:46
HappyFoolheimdall: yeah, i saw10:46
eisregenlickety: thanks =)10:47
eisregenlickety:10:47
HappyFoolheimdall: but it's probably worth trying10:47
battlecatlickety Can windows see a linux partition?10:47
Cooner750I get this after installing updates: "E: linux-image-2.6.10-5-386:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2"10:47
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heimdallHappyFool : looks like it deals again with nvidia, as we saw yesterday10:47
heimdallHappyFool : I'm pessimist10:47
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HappyFooleisregen: try installing 'kubuntu-desktop' for kde10:47
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licketybattlecat, no10:48
HappyFoolheimdall: i don't blame you ;)10:48
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battlecatahh almost pointless then.10:48
battlecatLickety: Almost pointless then huh?10:48
heimdallHappyFool : I think at last this is probably not a problem with my SiS630, because I saw in the x conf file that it was recognized10:48
heimdalldriver = "sis" etc..10:48
maruchanis their a way to get movifone to work10:49
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eisregenHappyFool: thanks .... sorry ... never bothered to use a debian based distro ... so it's apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?10:49
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HappyFoolbattlecat: try explore2fs (something like that) -- let's you copy files from ext3 (linux) to windows10:49
HappyFooleisregen: yeah10:49
maruchanis their a trick to see stupid trailers from moviefone10:49
eisregenHappyFool: thanks =)10:49
HappyFooleisregen: with maybe a 'sudo' in front10:49
battlecatHappyFool: Thanks for the suggestion. I think I should just break down and make the switch.10:49
balorIs there a good audio recorder/editor for Ubuntu (audacity don't work for me)?10:49
eisregenHappyFool: no ... I figured the 'sudo passwd root'10:49
eisregen^^10:49
eisregenbye =)10:50
licketyI'd really like to see a multitrack editor for linux that was free somewhat in the vein of cool edit10:50
HappyFooleisregen: heh. ok ;)10:50
eisregenand thanks again ^^10:50
heimdallHappyFool : well looks like it is a boot option (acpi) I would have to press F510:50
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HappyFoolheimdall: in install?10:50
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heimdallHappyFool : hum don't really know....10:51
HappyFoolheimdall: why not just add a parameter using grub, on your existing install10:51
balorlickety, I take it that means no?10:51
HappyFoolheimdall: press 'ESC' when you boot, then it think it's 'a' to add a parameter10:51
heimdallHappyFool : you know that I'm not very familiar with linux ;)10:51
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licketybalor, to my knowledge, it doesn't exist, if it does, it's a commercial application10:51
HappyFoolheimdall: fair enough. i'm not sure what the precise parameter is, e.g., if it's pci=noacpi like the page said10:52
HappyFoollukus001: i've never gotten dcc chat to work with x-chat ;)10:52
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HappyFoollukus001: still trying to get java installed?10:53
heimdallHappyFool : I'll try to do something.... well the idea that it could be a problem with the power management is pretty nice to me, because I already had problems with that and Mdk9.110:53
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heimdallHappyFool : this is too bad that I have to reboot each time ;)10:55
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HappyFoolheimdall: have you looked here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops10:55
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heimdallHappyFool : no I'm gonna look now10:56
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HappyFoolheimdall: also here: http://www.linux-laptop.net/  -- what's your model again?10:57
heimdallI lloked at this wbsite10:57
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heimdallsamsung VM8000, it is not there10:57
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heimdallI believe I saw VM700010:58
heimdallbut no 800010:58
heimdallgrrr ;)10:58
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UnGoDhello?10:59
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UnGoDi dont know who can help me....11:00
HappyFoolhello11:00
UnGoDbut i cant get the ubuntu test disk to work11:00
UnGoDit tells me the the x server isnt configured...11:00
HappyFoolwhich test disk is that?11:00
UnGoDi dont know what to do, cuz im new to linux11:00
Addiushm, having a slight problem. I'm trying to build something that wants to use the dir /lib/modules/'uname -r'/build/ , the problem being that the /build/ dir doesn't exist o_O;11:00
UnGoDUbuntu V5.0411:01
LinuxJonesUnGoD, you mean the livecd ?11:01
UnGoDyeah11:01
UnGoDthe live cd11:01
HappyFoolAddius: you need to install linux-headers-386  (or -686, or -k7, or whatever you kernel is)11:01
LinuxJonesUnGoD, what kind of computer do you have ....like video card /laptop etc ??11:01
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UnGoDi got  a emachine that i modified....PCI NividiaGeforce 128  intel 2.6 celeron11:02
UnGoDwestern digi 80 G11:02
UnGoD512 MB ram11:03
battlecatIm looking for a good PHP editor for Ubuntu. Any suggestions?11:03
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HiddenWolftry gedit11:03
peterretiefvi11:03
lukus001sorry happyfool i got tied away.. yeah im still trying :s.. most of the rapositories dont work... i just done one that did work... and the site say it "work out the box, no need to do anything" but java doesnt work :s11:03
lsuactiafnerbattlecat : joe.. or midnight commander (mc)11:03
UnGoDRunning XP Home SP211:03
wulfepupok... so my wireless card works... mostly. (Ad-Hoc is extremely flaky).. but I still haven't figured out why my OGL screen savers are so klunky...nVidia GeForce 440 ith 64MB RAM11:03
AddiusHappyFool: okay, thanks11:04
battlecatIm spoiled I am used to Dreamweaver MX. The one thing I miss when I try the Linux alternatives is the SITE LINK maintenance that dreamweaver provides. Does any other editor provide that?11:04
HappyFoollukus001: well, if you haven't run out of patience yet, i see method 3 most often recommended here11:04
LinuxJonesUnGoD, that video card should have no problem afaik11:04
UnGoDRunning XP Home SP211:04
UnGoDoops11:04
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HappyFoollukus001: see "Quick Sun JDK install"11:04
UnGoDwhat do i do?11:04
heimdallHello LinuxJones ;)11:04
squinnQuestion for you #ubuntu11:04
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LinuxJonesheimdall, hi how did you make out ?11:05
squinnI need to type 'sudo ifup wlan0' to start wireless every boot. Can I have this performed automatically?11:05
UnGoDhow do i config the X server?11:05
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UnGoDi just want to get on ubuntu11:05
lukus001ill give it a try =)11:05
HappyFoolsquinn: maybe add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ?11:05
balorIs sourceforge down for people here?11:05
heimdallLinuxJones : well as I said, I found something here : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23252.html11:05
LinuxJonesUnGoD, it's been a while since i ran the live cd but I am sure there is a boot option you can add to change the video driver to vesa11:05
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lsuactiafnerand chmod +x /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh11:06
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heimdallLinuxJones : it describe my problem perfectly, sounds like it could be a problem with 'acpi'11:06
UnGoDif anyone knows what Jones is refferring to, please elaborate11:06
UnGoDi really wanna run it11:06
heimdallLinuxJones : not sure of how to disable it11:06
lsuactiafnersquinn : but just say ifup wlan0 not sudu11:06
optik`oopsied11:06
HappyFoolheimdall: i think the parameter is just 'noacpi', not 'pci=noacpi'11:06
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optik`i did a dist-upgrade earlier11:06
optik`and now it wont boot :S11:06
fabiohello all11:06
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lsuactiafneroptik` : check the topic hehe...11:06
optik`is there a way of reversing said action?11:07
heimdallHappyFool : yes but where do I type this ?11:07
HappyFoolheimdall: two possible places11:07
fabioguys anybody knows hot to transform CHM files to PDF's within Ubuntu?11:07
optik`no not to breezy11:07
LathropWellssquinn - could you create a launcher link and run it system .. preferences .. Sessions .. start up?11:07
optik`with some backports-staging packages11:07
HappyFoolheimdall: 1) on boot, you should see 'Press ESC for boot menu' (or something similar)11:07
UnGoDCan anyone help me?11:07
HappyFoolheimdall: so, press ESC to get the grub menu11:07
heimdallok for 111:07
heimdallokay I'll try this11:07
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fabioUnGoD, what's the prob?11:07
squinnLathropWells, I could, but wouldn't that have it only load when I go into GNOME?11:07
squinnI'd like it to load on boot itself.11:08
squinnand okay, lsuactiafner and HappyFool11:08
HappyFoolheimdall: grub will give you some prompts; i think you type 'a' to add a boot parameter11:08
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LathropWellssquinn - yes i guess you are right...11:08
UnGoDfabio, when i run the Ubuntu livecd, it gets thru the process then says it cant configure the X server11:08
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HappyFoolheimdall: so, press 'a', and then type noacpi and <enter>11:08
UnGoDfabio, when i run the Ubuntu livecd, it gets thru the process then says it cant configure the X server11:08
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heimdallboot parameter would be 'noacpi' or pci=noacpi, I'll try both11:08
UnGoDi dont think i like this chat client much11:09
UnGoDlol11:09
heimdallok11:09
Cooner750I have a idea11:09
heimdalland 2 ?11:09
HappyFoolheimdall: 2 is if it works11:09
Cooner750I thought it would be neat to be able to save your configs and settings; etc... to the server like Slax linux; if you've ever heard of it11:09
HappyFoolheimdall: then you'll want to update /boot/grub/menu.lst11:09
LinuxJonesfabio, did you install xchm maybe you can grab a screenshot and export it using openoffice as pdf ??11:09
fabioUnGoD, hmm, ru  trying it on a laptop?11:10
HappyFoolheimdall: you need to add 'noacpi' to the '#kopt=' line11:10
heimdallin order to do noacpi each time ?11:10
UnGoDno, im running a customized Emachine11:10
HappyFoolheimdall: yeah11:10
LinuxJonesfabio, I don't know of any direct converters unless xchm can do it11:10
fabioLinuxJones, yep I have it installed, hmm good idea, the point is I wpuld like the whole book :/11:10
HappyFoolheimdall: but, you need to run something first to make that change propagate -- i'm not sure what11:10
UnGoDXP Home SP2, Nvidia PCI Geforce 5200, Celeron 2.611:10
LinuxJonesfabio, that would take a while :)11:10
balorHas anyone managed to get audacity working correctly?11:10
fabioLinuxJones, hehe yes that's what I thought :P11:11
HappyFoolheimdall: ah, maybe it's update-grub11:11
LathropWellsUnGoD - I feel your pain. "" Emachine. - lol11:11
heimdallHappyFool : sounds pretty difficult to me :/11:11
HappyFoolheimdall: no, not at all11:11
heimdalllol11:11
fabioUnGoD, hmm that's pretty strange, I use the same GFX here11:11
UnGoDit was a cheapie...lol  but im happy with it11:11
LinuxJonesbalor, audacity was working just fine last time I used it11:11
exobotrebootin now after compiling ndiwrapper 1.111:11
heimdallyou think... :)11:11
HappyFoolheimdall: just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst with your favourite editor11:11
exobotplease work D:!11:11
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UnGoDi just dont want windows anymore11:11
HappyFoolheimdall: e.g., 'sudo nano /boot/menu/grub.lst'11:11
heimdallI have NOT favorite editor :)11:11
HappyFoolheh11:11
heimdallat least not in console mode :)11:11
LathropWellsyou can't beat $299 for a 2.8 celeron11:11
HappyFoolheimdall: well, nano is not too hard to use11:11
fabioUnGoD, have you tried to check for the md5 checksum and see if it was downloaded correctly?11:12
balorLinuxJones, no problems with the quality of output?  If not it must be my settings.11:12
orhsi want to learn PHP and Python11:12
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HappyFoolheimdall: let's test if you can get (1) working first11:12
heimdallyes11:12
HappyFoolheimdall: we can worry about updating grub later11:12
exobotorhs PHP isn't that hard :)11:12
fabioorhs, cool11:12
UnGoDim not even sure what that means, fabio11:12
heimdalland we'll see 2 later11:12
heimdallyes :)11:12
AySinkors: "Learning Python" - Oreilly, and "PHP 5 Power Programming" - Prentice Hall11:12
LinuxJonesbalor, your getting distortion or something ?11:12
heimdallI have always hope ;)11:12
orhsexobot, but i dont know were to start :P11:12
exobotw3schools is good11:12
balorLinuxJones, The output plays about two or three times slower than realtime11:13
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heimdallso, brb !11:13
exobotalso, hang on - I found this place really good to begin with11:13
exobothttp://www.tizag.com/phpT/index.php11:13
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fabioUnGoD, hm ;) well the md5 checksum helps you see if the file you've downloaded have been downloaded correctly,  so if the md5 code is the same as the one in ubuntu website, it means your copy is not corrupted nor files are missing11:13
exobotafter that, you can do basic stuffs, then just build on there - look up new functions on php.net when you need to11:14
pepsianyone using breezy?11:14
fabioi agree with exobot11:14
LinuxJonesbalor, did it ever work ok or were you messing about with some settings ?11:14
UnGoDmy friend got a bunch of copies of Ubuntu in the mail...so thats what i have11:14
jbroomei had taco bell for lunch, so I"m kinda breezy11:14
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battlecatIs there any big changes in breezy to a non-programmer11:14
johan__how do i set my printer in ubuntu11:14
AySinkI do too - but I still say PHP 5 Power Programming is an awesome book11:14
pepsinot really, except stuff breaking11:14
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HappyFoolbattlecat: yeah, it ain't working yet11:14
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LinuxJonesjohan__, sudo gnome-cups-manager11:15
battlecatOk11:15
balorLinuxJones, I can't get it or the gnome "Sound Recorder" to work.  I only tweaked the Audacity settings after it was b0rk3d11:15
fabioUnGoD, oh no, that's different cos those will be OK hopefully, so, hmm sorry but I don't know what the prob could be... I am not that advanced at Linux yet11:15
johan__thnaks11:15
fabioUnGoD, have you tried googleing it ;P11:15
battlecatIs Kdevelop3 capable of being a website management tool?>11:15
UnGoDyeahj11:15
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UnGoDgoogling got tiring, so i came here11:15
newusermm..11:16
fabiobattlecat, afaik nope ;)11:16
fabiobattlecat, but you can use it for writing php code and more11:16
AddiusHappyFool: erhm, I installed the linux-kernel-header for my system but it still didn't add any /build/ in the lib11:16
battlecatafaik?11:16
fabiobattlecat, as far as i know11:16
UnGoDis there anyone here that can tell me how to configure the Xserver in order to run ubuntu?11:16
HappyFoolAddius: there should be a build symbolic link11:16
exobotArgh, when I modprobe ndiswrapper I get an "operation not permitted"11:16
exobotany ideas?11:16
battlecatI really was hoping to find a prog that would manage the site links more than anything11:16
HappyFoolAddius: e..g, i have /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build11:17
AddiusHappyFool: nopes, none11:17
fabiobattlecat, have you tried Nvu?11:17
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HappyFoolAddius: ok, what does 'uname -r' say ?11:17
battlecatThat isnt avaible through the repositories11:17
HappyFoolAddius: and what package did you install?11:17
Cooner750anybody know where I can find themes for Ubuntu?11:18
UnGoDis there anyone here that can tell me how to configure the Xserver in order to run ubuntu?11:18
fabiobattlecat, it is with the extraones, look at this: http://ubuntuguide.org/#nvu11:18
exobotgrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr11:18
exobotThis is pissing me off11:19
fabioexobot, what's wrong?11:19
HappyFoolCooner750: try maybe http://art.gnome.org/   -- i haven't used it myself11:19
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LinuxJonesexobot, search the wiki that question gets asked a few times a day11:19
fabioCooner750, yes art.gnome.org is good11:19
AddiusHappyFool: 'uname -r' says 2.6.10-5-386, and I installed linux-kernel-headers_2.6.11.2-0'blabla'_i386.deb11:19
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Cooner750happyfool: thanks11:19
HappyFoolAddius: hm11:19
HappyFoolAddius: no, use apt-get11:19
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HappyFoolAddius: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-386'11:20
AddiusHappyFool: I can't, there's no internet on the computer11:20
HappyFoolAddius: rather do not download .deb files and install them -- it is rarely necessary11:20
HappyFoolAddius: ah11:20
HappyFoolAddius: ok, stand by11:20
Addiusrarely as said :p11:20
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Cooner750this is cool: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/teams/art.gnome.org/backgrounds/GNOME-GnomeInThunder_1024x768.jpg11:20
Randallcthulfuego, are you here?11:20
exobotLinuxJones, I follwed the SetupNdiswrapperHowto exactly :(!11:20
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caramboli cant  install mplayer with apt.11:21
carambolit is not in backports11:21
trendsvmplayer how?11:21
LinuxJonesexobot, sorry I meant to say search the forum boards my mistake ;)11:21
aspuruRe all: I think i rebooted my computer before answering yes to a re-lilo after kernel upgrade. Now I think I need to boot using the live cd to fix the stuff11:21
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carambolno install candidate11:21
HappyFoolAddius: you have the install cd?11:21
fabiocarambol, have you tried http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer11:21
aspuruhow do I open synaptic on the mounted disk? chrooting?11:22
exobotLinuxJones: Yup that too, I have about 10 different threads open with the same question in, none of them seem to work...11:22
Ali_Babalots of X updates on breezy repos :)11:22
AddiusHappyFool: yeah11:22
HappyFoolmplayer should be in universe; the various grey-legal codecs may be in backports11:22
carambolbut i get the message:no candidate11:22
HappyFoolAddius: and you haven't updated your kernel?11:22
djm62aspuru: probably best to use apt-get or synaptic11:22
djm62aspuru: apt-get rather than synaptic...I don't know how happy X will be11:23
carambolfabio:the same for mozilla-mplayer11:23
Cooner750is there a program that can 'mask' all of that text that displays when linux is booting?11:23
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Cooner750like a splash screen?11:23
djm62Cooner750: coming in breezy11:23
aspurudjm: ok, what command shall i tell it to resume installation of the kernel package in case it was broken11:23
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fabiocarambol, have you added the extra repositories?11:23
aspurudjm: apt-get upgrade kernel ?11:23
LinuxJonesexobot, I wish I could help, I don't have a wireless card.11:23
carambolyeah11:23
AddiusHappyFool: I've opened up a source for a new kernel but I haven't compiled and exchanged it no11:23
Cooner750ok11:24
djm62aspuru: do you have the package file on disk?11:24
exobotNo problem, it's just it's getting a bit annoying.11:24
HappyFoolAddius: ok, the headers package is on the cd11:24
caramboli will try it again11:24
Addiusok11:24
exobotIt worked in bloody Gentoo, Red Hat and Mandrake, yet not in Ubuntu...11:24
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LinuxJonesexobot, yeah lots of folks have trouble with those cards in Linux :(11:24
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exobot:(11:24
HappyFoolAddius: is the cd in the drive on the remote machine ?11:24
cianci10Can anyone help me with my sound?11:24
AddiusHappyFool: yah11:24
djm62aspuru: what actually went wrong?11:24
HappyFoolAddius: i mean, the ubuntu machine11:24
cianci10I am not getting any sound11:24
aspurudjm: not that I know of. I was running synaptic but then when it upgrades the kernel, it asks some interactive question about re-liloing, I thiknt that is where shit hit the fan because I rebooted w/out ansswering that (b/c I was in a rush)11:24
cianci10how can i fix this?11:25
HappyFoolAddius: try 'apt-get install linux-headers-386' ?11:25
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LinuxJonesexobot, did it work ok out of the box with those other distros ?11:25
HappyFoolAddius: it *should* get it from the cd...11:25
aspuruturned off my computer I mean11:25
Ali_Babacianci10:do you have nforce sound card?11:25
theotheoI have installed libdvdcss2, but dvd-movies just don't play11:25
AddiusHappyFool: okay, I'll try, thanks11:25
Cooner750how to I make things like the panels transparent?11:25
cianci10Ali_Baba is that software?11:25
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HappyFoolAddius: otherwise look in pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10 for the .debs for the headers11:25
Ali_Babacianci10: no,its a type of motherboard :)11:26
djm62aspuru: chroot then dpkg -i (just checking)11:26
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cianci10oh, lol11:26
HappyFoolAddius: i see two there - the one is probably just a 'fake' package of some sort, but i'm not sure11:26
cianci10um, no i don't think so Ali_Baba11:26
AddiusHappyFool: I tried with the one in the archives and that didn't add the one I needed.. I'll try this one now11:26
HappyFoolAddius: you need an *exactly* matched kernel version -- that's why the one from the archives didn't work11:26
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cianci10so how can i fix my sound?11:27
djm62aspuru: the downloaded package files are in /var/cache/apt/archives11:27
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Ali_Babacianci10: yeah,what options you got in multimedia system selector?11:27
true_black_metalgood day ppli want to ask sameting i want to install my Tv-card what are good video players to use my tvcard on ?11:27
lsuactiafnertheotheo : install mplayer11:27
cianci10where is that? Ali-Baba??11:27
djm62aspuru: so when you chroot, do dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kernel-whatever-etc.deb11:28
cianci10I am sorry, i am kind of new at this11:28
aspurudjm: thanks I Will try it as soon as the cd finishes burning11:28
exobotLinuxJones sorry, was just trying something else, no I had to use ndiswrapper with tyhose too11:28
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Ali_Babacianci: system-preferences-multimedia system selector11:28
aspurudjm62: you are extremeley helpful thanks for your time :) I willk tell you the result in about 10 min ...11:28
Cooner750I think Ubuntu needs something like this11:28
Cooner750http://slax.linux-live.org/webconfig.php11:28
djm62aspuru: and try not to break this one, Bond... </q>11:28
HappyFoolexobot: linux jones is taking a smoke break ;) i guess he'll be back in a minute or two11:28
AddiusHappyFool: okay.. well it added the /build/ but it stopped in the next step instead. ack, hehe11:28
Ali_Babacianci10: on your taskbar11:28
HappyFoolAddius: heh11:28
cianci10oh, ok Ali_Baba11:28
exobot:P11:28
cianci10thank u.........11:29
orangeyquick q: I keep getting the following message when trying to install spca drivers for my quickcam: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.11:29
cianci10let me see11:29
exobotplease please please work D:!11:29
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orangeyHowever, I have no /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-5-386/debian/build dir.11:29
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HappyFoolorangey: install linux-headers-386: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-386'11:29
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Ali_Babacianci10: i got alsa as default sink and oss as default source11:29
likkashot:(11:29
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exobotout of interest, how come there are no mods?11:29
exobotops*11:29
orangeyHappyFool: Brilliant!11:29
cianci10Ali_Baba, so what did u wanna know?11:30
likkashotI think ill have to change distributions11:30
lsuactiafnerexobot : ops will get private queries..11:30
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lsuactiafnerwe dont want that11:30
FunkDatSithey all, can anybody help me set artwiz to my default fonts on fluxbox?11:30
orangeyHappyFool: thank you kindly.11:30
exobotAh11:30
exobotclever..11:30
HappyFoolorangey: np11:30
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djm62exobot: they prefer not to keep op privs, instead gaining them when necessary11:30
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exobotYeah, fair enough11:30
exobotwas just wondering :)11:30
Ali_Babacianci10:you can try to change that default sink and source and press test button,that might work11:30
lsuactiafnersend a message to HappyFool and see if he stays 'happy'..11:31
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LathropWellslikkashot - still having problems? - 64bit install wasn't it?  :/11:31
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cianci10oh, ok11:31
cianci10thanks11:31
HappyFoolheh. i'm not an op :P11:31
cianci10g2g11:31
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Addiusaff, anyone here got any experience getting the zd1201 driver working?11:31
mcscrufflo11:31
lsuactiafnerHappyFool : but you could be.. whenever i come here you are answering questions11:31
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djm62it's also good not knowing who's an op...keeps people polite11:31
lsuactiafnerlikkashot : i got an amd64 system whats up11:31
exobotARGH!11:32
exobotD:!11:32
lsuactiafnerlol11:32
exobotGrrrr11:32
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mcscruffpls help, i cant install anything. i want to install a deb and it wont let me su11:32
Church_of_FoamYcan someone tell me where the howto is for the ubuntu repos are?11:32
HappyFoollsuactiafner: probably cos we're both on during dear old telkom callmore time ;)11:32
orhsany hackers here? (like good/ethical hackers)11:32
exobotmust..reist.. temptation to throw laptop out of window >:|!11:32
Cooner750I wish it was eaiser to install MP3 capability11:32
djm62mcscruff: you can't su, there's no root password: use sudo instead11:32
Ali_Babacianci10:you should chech ubuntu forums also,im not really an expert myself too :)11:32
lsuactiafnerHappyFool : bwhahaha yeh it sucks11:32
mcscruffok11:32
lsuactiafnerorhs : no such thing11:32
mcscruffty11:32
LathropWellslsuactiafner - likkashot needs a hand11:32
djm62orhs: wrong forum, wrong question11:32
orhsok srry djm6211:33
likkashoti need more then one haha11:33
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exobotmust... kill.. ndiswrapper11:33
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orhslol11:33
Church_of_FoamYcan anyone tell me how to get to the howto pages?11:33
FunkDatSitanybody know how to get the artwiz fonts working? i can't seem to set them as default11:33
newuserExcuse me, what is a good compiler for C? withinn, Ubuntu..11:33
virtualdgcc11:33
djm62Church_of_FoamY: best way is always google...howtos change and move11:33
HappyFoolnewuser: gcc. install the 'build-essential' package11:33
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LathropWellsChurch_of_Foamy - the wiki? the guide or just plain 'ol man pages?11:34
newuserThank you.11:34
Church_of_FoamYoh ok thanx11:34
orangeywhat's a good video recording program in linux?11:34
djm62FunkDatSit: default for fluxbox, or for x/gnome11:34
Church_of_FoamYwell i was looking for the how to to put everyhting in the repos11:34
LinuxJonesorangey, for tv shows ?11:34
Church_of_FoamYin synaptic11:34
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FunkDatSityeah that's the problem, I started up fluxbox before I had the fonts, and now it uses the ones that come with X11:34
LathropWellsubotu tell Church_of_Foamy !guide11:34
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orangeyLinuxJones: no.. off of my webcam.. THink manifestos : )11:35
LathropWellsubotu tell Church_of_FoamY !guide11:35
HappyFoolChurch_of_FoamY: take a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TitleIndex and search for the word 'repository'11:35
exo|busyLinuxJones wb, no - with otthers distros i still had to use ndiswrapper, but the differnce was: it worked.11:35
Church_of_FoamYthanx happy ^_^11:35
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HappyFoolChurch_of_FoamY: adding repositories (if that's what you want to do) isn't too hard: take a look at Settings -> Repositories11:36
lsuactiafnerHappyFool : where do you live?11:36
exobothmmm, I suppose in the meantime I could always use XP's Internet connection sharing..11:36
HappyFoollsuactiafner: centurion (nearish pretoria)11:36
LathropWellsChurch_of_Foamy googleing ubuntuguide or ubuntu wiki is pretty direct it also turns up highly rated linux questions.org howtos11:36
HappyFoollsuactiafner: you?11:36
carambolis the backports mirror not working?11:36
lsuactiafnerpotch, student here11:37
HappyFoollsuactiafner: ah-ha, cool11:37
lsuactiafnerexams atm.. thats why i dont help much11:37
caramboli cant get mplayer11:37
HappyFoollsuactiafner: ouch11:37
LinuxJonesexobot, dude I wish I could give you some help :(11:37
lsuactiafnercarambol : add repositories11:37
djm62FunkDatSit: you have the fonts installed now? use a theme that uses artwiz (or write your own)11:37
exobotNah it's not your fault/problem :)11:37
lsuactiafner!repository11:37
ubotulsuactiafner: Wish i knew11:37
mcscruffdoes anyone know that kde app that installs deb files.. i think its something like kpackage11:37
lsuactiafnerhmmmm11:37
exobotYou using ubuntu?11:37
lsuactiafnerwhats the command?11:37
caramboli have done it allready11:37
lsuactiafner!repos11:38
djm62mcscruff: why do you want to manually install debs?11:38
ubotuWish i knew, lsuactiafner11:38
HappyFoolcarambol: mplayer-386 is in 'multiverse'11:38
lsuactiafnerargh11:38
StuttergartDoes anyone know why the qla2xxx driver doesn't show up in a 'make menuconfig' even though the drivers are in the kernel source package?11:38
mcscruffi can now manually install11:38
caramboloh, not in backports?11:38
mcscruffnow im looking for a nice gui11:38
djm62Stuttergart: have you enabled "experimental options"11:38
mcscruffthere was an app that installed rpm's and deb11:38
djm62mcscruff: you should use synaptic or similar11:38
mcscruffit is similar11:39
exobotblah, I'll try the 1.2rc of ndiswrapper, g'wan . I dare you to work :P11:39
HappyFooli think it's 'kynaptic' in kde11:39
LathropWellsmcscruff - the "alien" command?11:39
Stuttergartdjm62: I've never even heard of that.11:39
lsuactiafnerqla2xxx : prolly since you didnt select support for incomplete experimantal options11:39
Stuttergartoh11:39
Stuttergartno11:39
StuttergartI did11:39
newuserSo when was the latest of Ubuntu released?11:39
djm62april fool's11:39
lsuactiafnerqla2xxx : Code maturity level options .. [*]  Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers11:39
HappyFoolnewuser: april 200511:39
djm62or thereabouts11:39
Stuttergartlsu: yep, that's checked.11:40
newuserHehehe, Okay thanks.. I just got my connection back after 3 years11:40
LinuxJonesnewuser, next release is in October11:40
newuserThank you.11:40
StuttergartAnd SCSI support and PCI support are both static.11:40
mcscruffcheers for al ur help, i want this app because it does a number of things, i think xandros uses it as a primary installer11:40
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mcscruffor mepis does11:40
heimdallHappyFool : yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah11:40
HappyFoolheimdall: it works ?11:40
heimdallHappyFool : at laaaaaaaaaaaaaast11:40
heimdallyeaaaaaaaaaaah11:40
HappyFoolheh11:40
heimdalllol11:40
HappyFoolgood stuff11:40
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LinuxJonesheimdall, what was the problem ?11:40
heimdallwell11:40
heimdallacpi11:41
exobotHow do you remove things from modprobe again D:11:41
LinuxJonesheimdall, heh11:41
djm62mcscruff: you can certainly use it...but I'd seriously recommend doing things "the ubuntu way" to make your life easier11:41
heimdallI type 'e' on grub menu11:41
exobotmodprobe -r?11:41
LinuxJonesexobot, modprobe -r module11:41
heimdallto edit the boot command11:41
exobotty11:41
exobotweird11:41
heimdalland then I've added :11:41
heimdallpci=noacpi11:41
GMAN2003so whos got a link for noobs like me?11:41
heimdalland it was okay11:41
exobotEven after doing that, I still get a unusual error when modprobing it11:41
HappyFoolGMAN2003: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation, or even just wiki.ubuntu.com11:42
exobotI get a "could not open /lib/blahblahblah/ndiswrapper.ko"11:42
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heimdallHappyFool : well it is good news isn't it ??11:42
djm62mcscruff: manually downloading .debs is a bit retro for an electro-freak like yourself11:42
exoboteven after sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper11:42
HappyFoolheimdall: very ;)11:42
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LinuxJonesexobot, did you run depmod -aE11:42
Cooner750anybody know of disk partitioning software for linux? (Ubuntu?)11:42
heimdallHappyFool : well now 2 more things11:42
lsuactiafnerlikkashot : lspci | grep -i eth11:42
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djm62Cooner750: gparted, qparted11:42
bionicanyone know how to make evolution check mails on startup?11:42
lsuactiafnersee if you got two cards detected11:42
synd_Cooner750: ubuntuguide.com talks about gparted.11:42
Nernhey11:42
heimdall1) update the grub command (maybe there's a way to do this in the graphic mode ?11:42
LathropWellscooner - gparted or better qtparted or plain 'ol fdisk.11:42
heimdall2) find the drivers for my WINmodem :(11:43
synd_Cooner750: .org i mean11:43
jasmuzhas anyone been able to load a pencam as USB storage?11:43
Cooner750synd_; I know :)11:43
heimdallin order to be able to connect to the web with linux :/11:43
Nernim doing the server install and i need to know the meta packages to apt-get install X and xfce11:43
HappyFoolheimdall: what modem do you have?11:43
Cooner750I remember using it last night (stupid audio)11:43
NernXFCE is xfce4 i believe11:43
lsuactiafnerheimdall : you do not need graphics to do something.. ncurses text > all and most compatable11:43
Nernbut what is the package for xorg11:43
djm62Nern: xfce4 will depend on x11:43
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heimdalllsuactiafner : yeah yeah sure ;)11:43
djm62Nern: so just install that11:43
heimdallHappyFool : I was just checking...11:44
mcscruffdju62: i like it because i can let it install debs without needing to check for libs etc11:44
LathropWellsCooner750 - you can easily install any disk software using synaptic / kynaptic (KDE)11:44
exobotHmph, now I'm even further away than I was when I started :o11:44
Nerndjm62: YES... thats what I was thinking too11:44
heimdallHappyFool : smart link 56k modem11:44
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HappyFoolheimdall: really?11:44
HappyFoolheimdall: ubuntu apparently comes with some support for that11:44
jasmuzhas anyone been able to load a pencam as USB storage?11:44
HappyFoolheimdall: the 'sl-modem' packages11:45
steobanyone managed to get an AC'97 sound card workin on Hoare?11:45
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heimdallHappyFool : what ? I tried to detect the modem automatically11:45
heimdalland it didn't mange11:45
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heimdallmanage11:45
HappyFoolheimdall: i think you might still need to download a few packages... just a moment11:45
djm62mcscruff: the checks are there for a reason...you are free to do other stuff, but it will make your life more difficult, and impossible for people to assist you if (when) there's trouble11:45
jasmuzsteob, what kernel are you running?11:45
synd_steob: mine worked out of box11:45
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jasmuzmine did too11:46
heimdallHappyFool : sure I agree.... but... I'll have to share a partition with linux11:46
LathropWellsNern - you can reinstall the desktop if it's munged using synaptic "ubuntu-desktop" or "kubuntu-desktop"11:46
mcscruffdju64 , its kvirc it comes in 2 parts, and you need both but i cant install 1 coz it needs the other11:46
gorthaugi've a problem... i've been reinstalled ubuntu hoary and i've trying to reinstall the ut2004 linux demo... The probles is that in my other installation of ubuntu when i run the ut2004 installation script it's appear a wizard... but now don't appear the wizard... i need to install some packages??11:46
heimdallHappyFool : cause of course I can only download with windows :)11:46
HappyFoolheimdall: that's not a problem really, unless you need to resize a partition11:46
heimdallno11:46
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NernOOOH11:47
Nernalso11:47
Nernis there an XFCE desktop manager11:47
heimdallI already made a 10Gb fat32 partition in order to be compatible both with my linux and my windows11:47
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Nernso i dont have to use kdm or gdm11:47
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jasmuzgorthaug, run from a gterm and see if it says any error11:47
steobjasmuz, latest11:47
heimdallI just need ot mount it I suppose11:47
steobsynd, is there anyway I could copy your config (for the Ac'97)?11:47
synd_steob: have you done the soundfix found on ubuntuguide.org11:47
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jasmuzsteob, did you check the ubuntuforums for some troubleshoot...because mine runned out of the box11:48
steobsynd,  if thats the one that recommends installing the ALSA stuff, yeah11:48
LathropWellsheimdall - use the optimized defragmentaion option in system mechanic to move all windows files on a disk together. That should give yu more space with the disk resize11:48
steobI now get a squeal instead of nothing !11:48
synd_steob: hm11:48
jasmuzsynd hey man11:48
synd_jasmuz: yes?11:48
HappyFoolheimdall: you need these: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=sl-modem&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all11:48
LathropWellsheimdall - "System Mechanic" is a free trial with full functionality.11:49
heimdallLathropWells : ok, actually there are already many files on my partition, that I can't remove nor save elsewhere for the moment, but thanks I note11:49
gorthaugjasumz when i run it in a terminal appear a "text" installer... but... why don't appear now the "graphic" wizard?11:49
HappyFoolheimdall: unfortunately you may need to do a bit of compiling and tweaking11:49
steobI got a tosh satellite a6011:49
Cooner750how do I resize a partition with gparted?11:49
djm62mcscruff: I get 4 kvirc packages in "universe"11:49
lukus001https://jsecom16c.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet/LegalPage:~:com.sun.sunit.sdlc.content.LegalWebPageInfo;jsessionid=B486B571D1B9C4CB35518F2CACFBDE77;jsessionid=B486B571D1B9C4CB35518F2CACFBDE77                     do i download both linux one or both?11:50
jasmuzgorthaug, i have no idea....mine hasnt given me problems neither on warty or hoary11:50
mcscruffwhy aint i :S11:50
Cooner750On a external HD. I can see the HD but the partition menu is greyed out11:50
steobI think ubuntu is great but g/f aint havin it cos her MP3's don't play!11:50
djm62mcscruff: you might need to enable some extra repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list11:50
heimdallHappyFool : hum... as soon as it is not too hard to compile I can try... :/11:50
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HappyFoolheimdall: hrm11:50
steobI dont wanna go back to Win11:50
djm62mcscruff: this is on the wiki, hang on I'll dig it out11:50
heimdallI'm not, as you can guess, very used to those things11:50
HappyFoolheimdall: i installed all of this cos i thought it might support my modem11:50
LathropWellsheimdall - an external usb/firewire case is under $50 and makes good use of an old internal drive.11:50
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heimdallI only compile MY little programms :)11:50
HappyFoolheimdall: but don't remember the details11:51
WeirdAlHi everyone11:51
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WeirdAlMy laptop was turned off when I got home and my dad swears blind it wasn't him...11:51
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WeirdAlIs there a way of finding out what was happening before it shut down?11:51
WeirdAlActually, new question...11:51
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HappyFoollukus001: at a guess, the second one is for non-english languages11:51
steobask yer dad?11:51
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heimdallHappyFool : ... I'm not following you anymore.. :(11:51
WeirdAlIf you press the off button while the screen is password locked, will it still shut down?11:51
HappyFoolheimdall: sorry, you need to install sl-modem-daemon and sl-modem-source11:51
WeirdAlDad won't know, he said there was a password and so he just unplugged the net.11:52
HappyFoolheimdall: i *think* sl-modem-source has a howto. let me quickly install it and see..11:52
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jasmuzWeirdAl, yep11:52
heimdallHappyFool : oh oki...11:52
WeirdAlaah, I'll see if he did that11:52
heimdallHappyFool : is it not possible to find some executable files somewhere ?11:52
heimdallHappyFool : I know this is not in the "linux spirit"... :)11:53
steobok I'm going to have to install Win XP alongside this Ubuntu - any suggestions on how to do this without re-installin Ubuntu?11:53
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PrawntasmWould someone help me set up my ethernet connection? It works on a Knoppix cd, but I get no DHCPOFFERs in my Ubuntu installation11:53
HappyFoolheimdall: no, i think there's some legal/licensing issues (must be, otherwise it would be in compiled form)11:53
synd_steob: its suggested that Win is installed first.11:53
jasmuzsteob,  why the heck are you going back to Win?11:53
synd_steob: then ubuntu11:53
heimdallHappyFool : ah ok....11:54
Cooner750anybody?11:54
exobotjasmuz since wireless works there D:11:54
WeirdAlNo, he didn't do that.11:54
steobcos I can't get sound to work!11:54
HappyFoolheimdall: doesn't look *too* hard11:54
djm62mcscruff: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto11:54
Cooner750How do I resize partitions in gparted?11:54
heimdallHappyFool : sounds like it is not just a 'make' to do :/ am I right ?11:54
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djm62mcscruff: sorry that took a while11:54
HappyFoolheimdall: not too much more11:54
WeirdAlWhen I turned my laptop back on I got an error screen that didn't seem to have an error on it, but it was asking if I wanted to load defaults from CMOS11:54
heimdall:)11:54
WeirdAlSo I'd kinda like to know what happened to my PC before it shut down.11:54
HappyFoolheimdall: but you will need to install the 'kernel-package' package as well11:54
heimdalllittle things to configure before I suppose ?11:54
LathropWellsheimdall - you can use the graphical find tool on the taskbar under places or the command line  slocate <file_name> = spam find --regex <file_name>11:55
HappyFoolheimdall: no, not really11:55
carlos_:(11:55
mcscruffdj , np, i get 1 kvirc but its too old11:55
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heimdallHappyFool : what is this kernel-package ?11:56
lukus001if /var/install/ doesnt exist do i just create it?11:56
Cooner750is there anyway I can save my settings in ubuntu11:56
Cooner750?11:56
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djm62mcscruff: after you've enabled the repos?11:56
synd_Cooner750: save seesion upon logout.11:56
HappyFoolheimdall: i'm not completely certain, but it looks like a way to create kernel-related packages11:56
Cooner750what does that do when I use a live cd?11:56
HappyFoolheimdall: it's not on the cd, so you'll need to download it too11:57
synd_Cooner750: um11:57
Cooner750I'd like to save it to my FAT32 external HD11:57
LathropWellsheimdall - ubuntu uses "linux" in place of "kernel" synaptic can easily find them.11:57
theotheoCan't get totemplayer apt-get install mplayer11:57
mcscruffdj, yes11:57
HappyFoolheimdall: use packages.ubuntu.com to find the 'correct' version for hoary11:57
Cooner750I know you could in slax... :(11:57
heimdallHappyFool : no pb as soon as it is not too heavy (56k :))11:57
exobotWORK, I COMMAND YOU NDISWRAPPER!11:57
HappyFoolheimdall: i.e., search for 'kernel-package' there11:57
djm62mcscruff: I get four at version 2.1.3.111:57
synd_Cooner750: beyond my level.. i dont mess with live cds.11:57
HappyFoolheimdall: yeah, me too ;)11:57
HappyFoolheimdall: none of these are too big, i don't think11:57
heimdallHappyFool : oh ?11:57
pfpCooner750: you could mount the fat32, then tar your home dir there (if it's personal settings you need, not system- )11:58
synd_exobot: are the other things in System > Prefs > Networking disabled/unconfigured?11:58
exoboter, wtf, my comp has locked up...11:58
heimdallHappyFool : I'm suprised... I thought I was the only one still in the middle age of the internet :)11:58
HappyFoolheimdall: you'll need to install stuff from the cd though -- including 'build-essential' and 'linux-headers-386'11:58
exobotmouse hasa + with a border on the top and left11:58
mcscruffdj, that is an old version, current stable is 3.2.011:58
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HappyFoolheimdall: we have a telecommunications monopoly here in sa. DSL is expensive and crippled.11:58
exobotargh11:58
Cooner750pfp: how could I go about tarring it?11:58
exobotSomething in firefox11:58
lukus001happyfool: i'm on this site saying to download a linux build to /var/instal/... but the /install/ part doesnt exisit and i cant creat a folder in var11:59
HappyFoollukus001: try 'sudo mkdir /var/install'11:59
lukus001ty11:59
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pfpCooner750: tar -C ~ -czpf /mnt/fatdisk/homedir.tar.gz .11:59
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exobotsynd_, yes11:59
HappyFoolheimdall: anyway, download the sl-modem-daemon, sl-modem-source and kernel-package packages from package.ubuntu.com11:59
pfpCooner750: (note the final dot)12:00

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