[12:02] <siretart> lesliev: there is the wiki page, and everyone claims his packages there
[12:02] <siretart> this is the list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CxxLibraryList
[12:03] <siretart> lesliev: did you try to build sopwith with g++-4.0?
[12:07] <siretart> err, gcc-4.0
[12:36] <siretart> lesliev: I uploaded an updated package of sopwith with your contributions.
[12:52] <siretart> gn8 folks
[01:22] <lesliev> siretart: I built sopwith with 3.3.5 on Hoary. I think my apt probs may have been unrelated.
[01:23] <lesliev> tx for doing the package, I will do the wiki page soon
[01:23] <lesliev> gn8!
[01:25] <chillywilly> hey guys
[01:26] <chillywilly> when I boot up my new penguin computing server after installing it tells me it cannot read the ext3 /boot partition and that I need a newer version of e2fsck
[01:26] <chillywilly> I used the amd64 install disk
[04:16] <|QuaD-> i hate mplayer!
[05:10] <Burgundavia> tseng, what do you start your beagle with?
[05:55] <|QuaD-> anyone feel like doing some packaging?
[11:53] <hondje> Howdy.  Who is maintaining the bzflag pkg for breezy? :)
[11:57] <Lathiat> hondje: me
[11:58] <hondje> Lathiat: Hi, addicted to the game.  Any chance I can get the .deb from you?
[11:58] <Lathiat> hondje: http://bur.st/~lathiat/ubuntu/
[11:58] <hondje> I've been rebuilding the pkg from etch, but that's not healthy
[11:58] <Lathiat> hondje: its still awaiting review
[11:58] <Lathiat> to go into breezy
[11:59] <hondje> Lathiat: ah...did you happen to change the rules so it's not building for 486?
[11:59] <Lathiat> erm
[11:59] <Lathiat> dont think so
[11:59] <Lathiat> hondje: would it really benefit from that?
[11:59] <Lathiat> hondje: most things dont
[12:00] <siretart> Lathiat: you are taking care of bzflag? great! :)
[12:00] <hondje> Lathiat: Not greatly, but I notice the fps 'seem' a bit more consistant
[12:00] <Lathiat> siretart: yeh wel its been awaiting review foramonth...
[12:00] <siretart> Lathiat: the problem with bzflag is that its a c++ app, and cannot be uploaded anyway
[12:00] <Lathiat> siretart: ah right
[12:01] <hondje> Lathiat: big thanks for the package, mine wasn't running too well
[12:01] <siretart> Lathiat: perhaps we can make a deal: you join the MOTUGames team, and put your package for reviewing on that page, and I'll review it with priority, how's that? ;)
[12:01] <Lathiat> siretart: alright
[12:02] <Lathiat> the question is, do i need to do any cxx transition stuff
[12:02] <Lathiat> i might play with it
[12:02] <Lathiat> ill do that tomorrow
[12:02] <siretart> Lathiat: does bzflag build with g++-4.0 from hoary?
[12:02] <siretart> Lathiat: does bzflag build with g++-4.0 from breezy? (sorry=
[12:02] <Lathiat> i *think*, but im not sure
[12:02] <Lathiat> i'll find out
[12:02] <Lathiat> how do i tell pbuilder to use g++-4 ?
[12:03] <siretart> if you have a breezy pbuilder chroot, it will use the "default" g++ compiler, which is g++-4.0 in breezy
[12:03] <Lathiat> ok
[12:03] <Lathiat> i'llbuild oen
[12:04] <hondje> is there a how-to on using all the deb-helpers?
[12:05] <siretart> hondje: well, there is the debhelper manpage..
[12:05] <Lathiat> can i oint pbuilder at/var/cache/apt/archives ?
[12:05] <Lathiat> for apt-cache?
[12:05] <hondje> siretart: that one is geared towards developers
[12:06] <siretart> Lathiat: see the pbuilder howto in the wiki
[12:06] <Lathiat> yeh im look at it
[12:06] <siretart> hondje: well, then I dont quite understand your question, debhelper IS for developers
[12:07] <hondje> siretart: I want to make some packages for my personal use, of various commerical software
[12:07] <siretart> oh, ic
[12:08] <hondje> for most things, deb-src has me covered, really easy to use, but from scratch I'm at a loss
[12:08] <siretart> I think it would be best the scim through the debian new maintainer guide, and read the debhelper manpage for the debhelper tools available, atm
[12:08] <siretart> hondje: do you know dh_make?
[12:09] <hondje> siretart: No, I'm afraid not
[12:09] <Lathiat> yeh the debian new maintainer guide is good
[12:09] <hondje> oh, I'll google that
[12:10] <siretart> hondje: well, then look at it :) - it gives you a nice skeleton source package with debhelper tools
[12:10] <hondje> oh, perfect
[12:10] <sivang> Lathiat: really? I find it mostly lacking. The only true sources to learna bout deb pkgs, is make and autotools manual ;-)
[12:10] <hondje> easy upgrades here I come ;-)
[12:10] <Lathiat> sivang: make and autotools really has nothing to do with creating debian packages...
[12:11] <siretart> Lathiat: well, debian/rules is a makefile ;)
[12:11] <hondje> autotools is grokable, debhelper is confusing :)
[12:11] <sivang> My point exactly...
[12:11] <sivang> and debhelper is basically a set of premade make snippets, used on demand
[12:12] <sivang> IIRC
[12:12] <hondje> hrm
[12:12] <sivang> Well, I'm just talking out of the frustration in the DNM guide ;-)
[12:12] <hondje> now I'm a bit more confused, but that maint doc is big and well written...
[12:12] <Lathiat> yeh but who doesnt use cdbs. ;)
[12:12] <hondje> I have my own personal repo, I'd like to be able to keep myself all synced in
[12:12] <sivang> Lathiat: true, however, could you please tell me how can I learn and master cdbs?
[12:13] <sivang> Lathiat: The documentation is pretty sparse, last time I checked
[12:13] <Lathiat> look at other packages. ;)
[12:13] <hondje> other pkgs confuse me ;-)
[12:14] <sivang> Lathiat: hehe, did that for a couple of packages I did, but I'm a tough cookie - I always want to have broad understanding
[12:14] <hondje> I'm really mostly computer illiterate
[12:14] <hondje> But ~5 years of using it for a desktop with nothing else has kinda forced me to learn a couple tricks...
[12:15] <hondje> Now I keep setting up plans that are above me :)
[12:15] <sivang> hondje: I also found out most of the already made cdbs pkgs confusing, I guess that's becasue with cdbs you can achive a lot with nearly zero lines of code.
[12:17] <hondje> I should be glad work gives me a chance to try something neat though, making my own debs
[12:18] <sivang> hondje: oh, that's nice, where do you work?
[12:18] <hondje> sivang: small local company, we do various odd stuff
[12:19] <hondje> my personal job is taking data and making pretty pictures and graphs with it, not very interesting, but we use a couple of in-house apps
[12:19] <hondje> the rest of them (and sometimes me) write applications for banks and .gov types, or fix bugs / add features / reboot NT
[12:20] <sivang> hondje: oh, are you a research student ?
[12:20] <hondje> undergrad physics/math student
[12:20] <hondje> I know just enough that my boss thinks I'm useful :)
[12:21] <sivang> wow cool
[12:22] <hondje> yeah, it's pretty neat stuff
[12:22] <sivang> so you'd probably have lot's of free time to work on ubuntu?
[12:22] <hondje> plus it gives me some useful skills that I can switch back to school, did well in a computational-math contest, from work-skills
[12:22] <hondje> Not a lot, I have a daughter, a wife, school full-time for two degrees, and work 30-40 hrs a week :)
[12:23] <hondje> though summer is much nicer, like now :)
[12:23] <sivang> hondje: ah nice , where from?
[12:23] <dholbach> hi
[12:23] <hondje> I live in Colorado, US
[12:23] <tseng> hi dholbach !!!
[12:24] <dholbach> hi brandon
[12:24] <sivang> hondje: oh right :-)
[12:24] <sivang> hey dholbach , ts	
[12:24] <sivang> tseng, even
[12:25] <hondje> my usual contribution-back is helping newbies, filing bugs and throwing money at projects
[12:25] <sivang> what's cooking?
[12:25] <tseng> hi sivang
[12:26] <DanielN> morning
[12:26] <hondje> I was thinking about making/maintaining a glest pkg, but I can't tell if it's Free or not
[12:33] <dholbach> brb
[01:09] <siretart> hondje: the source distribution should have some copyright or licence statement inside
[01:09] <siretart> hondje: if not, it's not distributable, due to lacking statment :(
[01:10] <dholbach> siretart, hondje: yeah, i just mailed some upstream guy to add a nice license - he did in less than a week
[01:10] <hondje> siretart: ah, I'll try that out...I was just grepping their site, then I fired off an email to the lead dev
[01:10] <hondje> dholbach: oh, for glest?
[01:10] <dholbach> no, for tilda
[01:10] <hondje> oh
[01:10] <siretart> dholbach: cool! :)
[01:18] <ivoks> hm, X are broken in breezy :(
[01:18] <dholbach> xkb?
[01:18] <ivoks> yeah :(
[01:18] <dholbach> Keybuk well, a lot of stuff is trying to access /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/...
[01:18] <dholbach> Keybuk which daniels appears to have helpfully ommitted the symlink for
[01:18] <dholbach> Keybuk and /usr/lib/X11/XKeysymDB
[01:18] <dholbach> Keybuk (now /usr/share/X11/XkeysymDB)
[01:18] <dholbach> going to restart X now *wave*
[01:20] <dholbach> HA! WORKS!
[01:20] <ivoks> really?
[01:20] <dholbach> yup
[01:20] <dholbach> *headbang* *dance on the table*
[01:21] <siretart> dholbach: grats :)
[01:21] <ivoks> ok... X restart for me too then
[01:23] <ivoks> hehe praise the lord
[01:23] <ivoks> dholbach: thanks for tip
[01:23] <dholbach> \{}{}[] {}@@ WOOHOO! :)
[01:23] <dholbach> thank keybuk :)
[01:23] <ivoks> biggest problem for me was the Windows key :)
[01:24] <ivoks> i use it for close, maximize, minimize, shade, start term, etc...
[01:24] <siretart> you mean the "ubuntu" key? ;)
[01:24] <ivoks> uberkey :)
[01:25] <dholbach> what do you guys think about a review day next week?
[01:25] <dholbach> we desperately need it
[01:25] <dholbach> the lists are ber-full
[01:25] <ivoks> ok by me
[01:25] <dholbach> i think it's the coolest way to contribute MOTU-wise to ubuntu
[01:25] <dholbach> get fixed and NEW packages in
[01:26] <dholbach> and praise those that did packaging work
[01:26] <dholbach> i'll make an announcement - any suggestions for the date?
[01:26] <ivoks> 7 days from now?
[01:26] <ivoks> i have exam 23.
[01:27] <dholbach> on the weekend?
[01:27] <dholbach> hmmmhmhm
[01:27] <ivoks> yeah, next saturday?
[01:27] <ivoks> :)
[01:27] <ivoks> of friday
[01:27] <dholbach> what does the rest of the crew think?
[01:27] <ivoks> s/of/or/
[01:28] <siretart> next weekend is linuxday
[01:28] <ivoks> oh
[01:28] <dholbach> everyday is ok for me - i'm chained to the computer at the moment :-/
[01:28] <ivoks> dholbach: why?
[01:28] <dholbach> ivoks: have to hand in my thesis in 8 weeks, last exam in 3 weeks
[01:29] <ivoks> eh...
[01:29] <dholbach> i've never been busier
[01:29] <ivoks> then maybe you should work more on thesis, instead of ubuntu :)
[01:29] <dholbach> but we need this review day - and i'll help out
[01:29] <ivoks> just for a week or two :)
[01:29] <dholbach> i'm not that busy on the ubuntu front atm, really not
[01:30] <ivoks> ah... that's why everything is stalled :))
[01:30] <dholbach> so in the week from 26th to 2nd somewhere?
[01:30] <ivoks> maybe 27th? we will be fresh after weekend
[01:32] <dholbach> fine by me
[01:32] <dholbach> any other suggestions/opinions?
[01:33] <ivoks> looks like we are alone
[01:33] <ivoks> :)
[01:33] <ivoks> dholbach: put it in topic
[01:33] <siretart> does anyone know zsh-lovers?
[01:34] <ivoks> 27th is in 9 days...
[01:35] <ivoks> siretart: i'm playing with zsh for last two weeks, but don't know much of it for now...
[01:37] <siretart> ivoks: the zsh-lovers is additional knowhow documentation, licensed under gpl
[01:37] <siretart> upstream already packaged it, I think breezy should have it
[01:37] <siretart> the "problems" are: not in debian, and native package.
[01:38] <siretart> dholbach: what do you think? should I repackage it as non native? or put it "as is" on NEWPackages?
[01:38] <ivoks> ah :)
[01:38] <dholbach> siretart: how is its state apart from being native?
[01:39] <siretart> well, mainly its only documentation in 3 formats: manpage, htmlpage and pdf
[01:39] <dholbach> ah ok
[01:40] <dholbach> you could explain the upstream guys what to do
[01:41] <siretart> hm. ok, then I'll repackage it and propose that to upstream, perhaps the will adopt it
[01:41] <dholbach> yeah
[01:44] <siretart> hm. the package isn't very nice packaged anyway. but nice, but functional
[01:45] <dholbach> ok - so we agree on monday, june, 27th?
[01:45] <siretart> sounds good
[01:45] <dholbach> ok
[01:45] <dholbach> sent the mail
[01:46] <siretart> waah. the upstream tarball is the native package with debian dir
[01:47] <siretart> now I understand: they want to provide the packages themselves and to simplify, they packaged it as native.
[01:47] <siretart> I don't think they'd want to change that
[01:49] <dholbach> write and tell them, that the .diff.gz will get unreadable
[01:50] <dholbach> upstreams unfortunately mostly don't have a clue about packaging
[01:50] <siretart> hm. I need to create a "new" orig.tar.gz, without debian/ dir
[01:50] <dholbach> arglarglargl
[01:50] <siretart> because as said, the upstream tarball is with debian/ dir
[01:51] <siretart> exactly
[01:51] <dholbach> i wouldnt create a new orig.tar.gz
[01:51] <dholbach> i'd bite the bullet and have a messed up .diff.gz (if they don't change their position)
[01:51] <dholbach> but i guess they'll hear you out, if you tell them
[01:52] <siretart> hm. ok
[01:52] <dholbach> i think it's good to be able to compare the md5sum with upstreams orig.tar.gz
[01:53] <dholbach> but that's just my opinion
[01:53] <dholbach> not a "rule"
[01:54] <siretart> yeah, but in this case, this would really mess up the diff.gz
[01:54] <siretart> but ok, will do
[02:04] <dholbach> see you later
[02:32] <Goshawk> hi
[02:36] <Goshawk> i've found an error (and fixed) installing java (sun packages) on my ubuntu hoary, i don't know if it's really a bug. The /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin..etc. is a symb link to nothing because, installing java package there is not /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so file but it's /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so. Should it be fixed in any way, or everyone should fix it
[02:36] <Goshawk> creating a new symb link?
[02:39] <siretart> hi Goshawk
[02:40] <siretart> Goshawk: these j2sdk1.5 packages are not included in hoary, they are packages created and installed by the local sysadmin
[02:41] <Goshawk> sure? i'm the sysadmin and i've only standard repos + backports... going to check them
[02:41] <siretart> Goshawk: the problem you describe could indeed be a bug in java-package (which is distributed in hoary/multiverse)
[02:42] <siretart> Goshawk: backports? uh. which version of java-package did you use to create the j2sdk1.5 package?
[02:42] <Goshawk> yes i've universe, multiverse and backports enabled
[02:42] <Goshawk> no... i've installed java with an easy apt-get install call
[02:42] <Goshawk> apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.5
[02:42] <Goshawk> apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[02:43] <Goshawk> and that's all
[02:43] <siretart> sorry, this is not supportable. this sun-j2sdk1.5 package may not be legally distributed
[02:43] <siretart> wherever you got this from, this download was not legal
[02:43] <siretart> and obviously, it is broken
[02:43] <Goshawk> ehm.. this is the mainteiner : Ubuntu Backports Project <ubuntu-bp-devel@googlegroups.com>
[02:44] <Goshawk> and yes the section is Development(non-free)
[02:44] <siretart> they are not affiliated with us, and we have not seen these packages, nor recommend using them
[02:44] <siretart> not yet, there has been some discussion for colaboration, but I don't know what the current status is
[02:45] <siretart> I'd recommend removing the sun-j2sdk1.5 package, and create one yourself using latest java-package
[02:45] <Goshawk> ok... i'll find another easy way to make my firefox running java with apt-get
[02:46] <siretart> Goshawk: I just told you the IMO easiest way to get the non free java plugin working
[02:47] <siretart> latest java-package is 0.24, atm
[02:50] <Goshawk> btw the buged packages are in ubuntu-backports.mirrormax server, that is listed in the unofficial ubuntu guide
[02:52] <siretart> Goshawk: well, we know that the backports archive exist, but we cannot recommend using them.
[02:52] <Goshawk> ok.. dropping backports repo
[02:53] <Goshawk> and getting the java one from tower-net.de (ubuntu wiki)
[02:54] <siretart> tower-net.de?
[02:54] <Goshawk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[02:54] <Goshawk> siretart, first method
[02:55] <siretart> Goshawk: I strongly recommend method 3
[02:56] <Goshawk> siretart, i've to install java on 15 pcs at work
[02:56] <siretart> and install this one first: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/j/java-package/java-package_0.24_all.deb
[02:56] <Goshawk> and i prefer a prebuild package than a one to compile by myself
[02:56] <siretart> Goshawk: you don't compile anything at all
[02:57] <siretart> Goshawk: this process just repackages the binaries from sun into an debian binary package. thats all
[02:57] <siretart> Goshawk: you have to do this process only once, then you get your own sun-j2sdk1.5 packages, which you can install on as many installations as you want
[02:57] <siretart> thats the only legal way
[02:58] <Goshawk> stupid law... i've to convert the same bins to another that is the same to accomplish my work...
[02:58] <Goshawk> s/another/anothers
[02:59] <siretart> no stupid law, stupid sun distribution terms
[02:59] <Goshawk> :D this is why i'll never use lookingGlass
[03:01] <Goshawk> btw thanks for the support
[03:01] <siretart> your welcome
[03:07] <Goshawk> btw same problem with the j2sdk from tower-net.de :D
[03:14] <Goshawk> fixed
[03:14] <Goshawk> now it works :D
[03:14] <Goshawk> it seems to be a common problem
[03:14] <Goshawk> backports and tower-net-de
[03:15] <ogra> the tower-net.de package works for me on 3 machines here, out od the box
[03:16] <ogra> s/od/of
[03:17] <Goshawk> ogra, for me they don't work, i've to modify a /etc/alternative file
[03:17] <Goshawk> ogra do: ls -l firefox-javaplugin.so
[03:18] <Goshawk> and paste output please
[03:18] <ogra> Goshawk, i'm not near a i386 currently, sorry
[03:19] <Goshawk> $ ls -l mozilla-javaplugin.so
[03:19] <Goshawk> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 58 2005-06-17 22:24 mozilla-javaplugin.so -> /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[03:19] <ogra> but the just work as the should.... i use several java applet based webpages from them, i'd recognize if java wouldnt work
[03:19] <Goshawk> it should be usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[03:19] <ogra> and lease dont modify /etc/alternatives by hand....
[03:19] <Goshawk> ogra, 1.5 version?
[03:19] <ogra> use update-alternatives
[03:19] <ogra> ah, might be 1.4
[03:20] <Goshawk> ogra, too late.. i used a ln -s firefox-javaplugin
[03:20] <Goshawk> i'm talking about 1.5 version
[03:21] <ogra> Goshawk, then do it for the next time, the alternative system is not happy about fiddling manually in it ;)
[03:21] <Goshawk> ogra, uhm... good! this is why dpkg -S firefox-javaplugin.so can't locate the file
[03:22] <Goshawk> because it's created by a postinst script...
[03:22] <Goshawk> :D
[03:22] <Goshawk> thanks ogra
[03:22] <doko> Goshawk, why don't you use the blackdown packages?
[03:23] <Goshawk> doko, because i had backports enabled (and now also tower)
[03:23] <Goshawk> and because in the wiki, this way is showed as the best
[03:23] <doko> Goshawk, change the wiki ;)
[03:24] <Goshawk> or.... fix the package... since many people uses backports
[03:28] <ogra> Goshawk, the guy doing backports doesnt even provide the source of his packages (which violates the GPL) how sould we fix something we cant look at
[03:28] <siretart> ok, I just 'fixed up' the zsh-lovers package. Interested souls may check them out at http://siretart.tauware.de/ubuntu-packages/zsh-lovers. upstream has been mailed
[03:29] <Goshawk> ogra, this is why i'll contact backports people
[03:29] <ogra> Goshawk, we try to conince him to become a MOTU and open a MOTUBackports team but he refuses to work this tight with us....
[03:29] <siretart> ogra: btw, was there any progress since the backport meeting?
[03:29] <Goshawk> he? is him only one peson?
[03:29] <Goshawk> person
[03:30] <ogra> he wants to do his own thing, but thinks he can use our buildds
[03:30] <Goshawk> i thought it was a group
[03:30] <siretart> Goshawk: he has 2 helpers, but jdong does nearly all the work
[03:30] <ogra> i think they are three, ut mainly its jdong
[03:30] <ogra> but even
[03:30] <Goshawk> ok... i'll talk with them
[03:30] <Goshawk> in hte meantime we should fix the wiki
[03:31] <Goshawk> now it's time to go to work for me
[03:31] <siretart> ogra: in which point did he not agree to ubuntu?
[03:31] <Goshawk> i'll do that at work (and i'll see if it's a problem of my pc or of all ubuntu hoary systems)
[03:31] <ogra> siretart, he doesnt want to become a MOTU
[03:32] <ogra> siretart, without him going through the MOTU process, we'll never be sure these packages have basic QA
[03:32] <siretart> hm. thats right
[03:32] <Goshawk> echo "became a motu member" >> Goshawk_TODO_list.txt :D
[03:32] <ogra> and i'm very opposed to just give upload rights to somebody whose packages nobody checks
[03:32] <Goshawk> see you guys
[03:33] <ogra> ciao Goshawk :)
[03:33] <siretart> cu Goshawk
[03:33] <Goshawk> ciao Oliver
[03:33] <ogra> :)
[03:33] <siretart> ogra: yeah, but wasn't there also some discussion of implementing some upload target for backports?
[03:34] <ogra> siretart, it will be our buildds and our archive
[03:35] <siretart> but then still, only maintainers have upload rights. and without MOTUBackportsTeam, no uploads, no upload targets.. ic
[03:37] <siretart> lol. and the backports forum requires registration..
[03:37] <ogra> heh
[03:38] <siretart> uff. and he seems to use plain svn for his archive
[03:38] <siretart> well, I think the problem will solve itself shortly
[03:39] <ogra> hmm
[03:39] <siretart> hrhr. the repoistory sizes 16gb
[03:39] <ogra> yeps
[06:08] <Riddell> anyone know why dh_install --list-missing doesn't work on some packages?
[06:08] <Riddell> dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list-missing
[06:08] <Riddell> cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/16x16/apps/karbon.png': No such file or directory
[06:10] <Mez> Afternoon Riddell
[06:13] <Riddell> yo Mez
[06:14] <Mez> ah :D keybuk's not going to be happy about this
[06:14] <Mez> mez@apathy:~$ fortune debian
 Lemme make sure I'm not wasting time here... bcwhite will remove
[06:14] <Mez>       pkgs that havent been fixed that have outstanding bugs of severity
[06:14] <Mez>       "important".  True or false?
 jim: "important" or higher.  True.
 Then we're about to lose ftp.debian.org and dpkg :)
[06:14] <Mez> * netgod will miss dpkg -- it was occasionally useful
 We still have rpm....
[06:14] <Mez>         -- Seen on #Debian
[06:19] <ivoks> ok...2.6.12 is stable
[06:20] <siretart> Riddell: did you check that the directory it is supposed to install to actually exists?
[06:24] <Riddell> siretart: in this case it was because the .install file was trying to install something that didn't exist, I'll come back when I next have an error ;)
[06:24] <siretart> Riddell: ;)
[06:26] <Riddell> right...
[06:26] <Riddell> dh_install --list-missing
[06:26] <Riddell> cp: cannot stat `usr/bin/karbon': No such file or directory
[06:26] <Riddell> dh_install: command returned error code 256
[06:26] <Riddell> but there is both debian/tmp/usr/bin/karbon and debian/karbon/usr/bin/karbon
[06:32] <doko> Riddell: listed twice?
[06:33] <Riddell> doko: nope, grep usr/bin/krita *install  turns up only 1, and there's no rule for usr/bin/* or anything
[06:34] <ivoks> hm... is it possible to notify cups when USB/LPT printer is plugged in?
[06:37] <Riddell> ivoks: ivman could do that
[06:37] <Riddell> oh well
[06:49] <siretart> Unfrgiven: ping
[06:51] <siretart> Unfrgiven: you have iptraf on the ToReview Page. JeffBailey aready uploaded a 2.7.0-7ubuntu1 package. please check it out, and prepare a ubuntu2 package, if necessary
[07:03] <ivoks> living on the edge, lol
[07:03] <ivoks> kernel compiled with gcc4
[07:28] <Riddell> ah works if I do, dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list-missing
[07:28] <Riddell> shouldn't debian/tmp be the default?