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| lamont | gcc-opt: forcing -O1 | 02:12 |
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| jbailey | lamont: Can you tell me if hppa has succesfully built klibc? | 03:03 |
| lamont | on debian? | 03:05 |
| lamont | or ubuntu? | 03:05 |
| lamont | latest, or ever? | 03:05 |
| lamont | make[1] : Entering directory `/build/buildd/klibc-1.0.14' | 03:06 |
| lamont | MCONFIG:90: klibc/arch/parisc64/MCONFIG: No such file or directory | 03:06 |
| lamont | make[1] : *** No rule to make target `klibc/arch/parisc64/MCONFIG'. Stop. | 03:06 |
| lamont | fix your uname -m crap to strip the 64... | 03:07 |
| jbailey | Okay. | 03:09 |
| jbailey | Just that initramfs-tools 0.11 works for booting off of a harddrive, software raid1 and nfsroot now. | 03:10 |
| jbailey | Is 2.6.13 really does drop devfs, then this will be it from then on. =) | 03:11 |
| jbailey | s/Is/If/ | 03:11 |
| jbailey | Should I map hppa* to hppa, or just hppa64 ? | 03:14 |
| lamont | parisc* -> hppa | 03:16 |
| lamont | jbailey: way cool. | 03:16 |
| jbailey | Hmm. | 03:17 |
| lamont | and yeah, good that it's working that well. | 03:17 |
| lamont | well, let me rephrase that... | 03:17 |
| jbailey | No, the kernel considers your arch to be "parisc" | 03:17 |
| lamont | kernel knows it as parisc or parisc64, depending on which kernel is running | 03:17 |
| lamont | and in fact, has an ifdef that appends the 64... | 03:17 |
| lamont | user space knows it as hppa | 03:17 |
| lamont | so whichever is appropriate for your environment... | 03:18 |
| jbailey | klibc is using this to grab the kernel headers. | 03:18 |
| jbailey | for syscalls and such. | 03:18 |
| lamont | hrm... | 03:18 |
| lamont | package names have hppa{,64}{,-smp} versions, iirc | 03:18 |
| jbailey | But it looks like there isn't really a separate parisc64 header set. | 03:18 |
| lamont | there isn't - it's purely config diffs | 03:19 |
| jbailey | I'm going to go with s/parisc*/parisc/ then. | 03:19 |
| lamont | sounds correct for kernel space. | 03:19 |
| === lamont must run to meet family for dinner | ||
| jbailey | Have a good one, I'll push this to upload now. | 03:19 |
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| lamont | hrmpf. hppa is at 56.5%, sparc at 57.9% (installed) | 06:12 |
| fabbione | morning | 06:27 |
| fabbione | lamont: :) | 06:27 |
| lamont | fabbione: but my builds go faster now, since I'm forcing -O1 for a max optimization level in g{cc,++}-4.0. | 06:42 |
| lamont | otoh, ccache is slowly flushing | 06:43 |
| fabbione | i am not using ccache on the external buildd | 06:43 |
| fabbione | and i leave standard opts | 06:44 |
| fabbione | but well.. i am ok at this speed :) | 06:44 |
| lamont | dpkg: error processing tetex-bin (--configure): | 06:45 |
| lamont | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 30 | 06:45 |
| lamont | stupid tetex | 06:45 |
| lamont | gonna have to fix that tomorrow | 06:46 |
| fabbione | eh good idea :) | 06:46 |
| lamont | already done, it appears | 06:47 |
| lamont | tex/tetex-bin_2.0.2-30ubuntu3: Needs-Build [optional:out-of-date] | 06:47 |
| === lamont moves tetex-bin to the head of the queue | ||
| lamont | and depwait gtk+2.0 and linux-source-2.6.12 on the newer tetex-bin. sigh | 06:49 |
| fabbione | oh l-s-2.6.12 is FTBFS on sparc :) | 06:50 |
| fabbione | i need to fix that ;) | 06:50 |
| lamont | eventually, at least, eh? | 06:50 |
| fabbione | probably, maybe, mostlikely :) | 06:50 |
| lamont | the -O1 is a workaround for a g*-4.0 regression in the optimizer. annoying | 06:51 |
| fabbione | ah | 06:51 |
| lamont | I'd rather be able to leave it at 0..3 | 06:52 |
| fabbione | i wonder if that also fixes some of my FTBFS | 06:52 |
| lamont | might... although it's an hppa-specific regression | 06:52 |
| fabbione | ah ok | 06:52 |
| lamont | it would appear that some code misbehaves when it compares two function pointers for equality and gets told 'not equal', when in fact they are. | 06:53 |
| fabbione | ah | 06:53 |
| fabbione | YEAH | 06:56 |
| fabbione | .12 is out | 06:56 |
| lamont | so how soon will we upload 2.6.12-1.1? | 06:58 |
| fabbione | that will be mostlikely 2.6.12-2.1 | 06:59 |
| fabbione | or do you truely believe that from rc6 to final they did not break the ABI? | 06:59 |
| lamont | ah, we started being good and tracking, eh? | 07:00 |
| fabbione | yes.. because we moved .12 in main yesterday :( | 07:00 |
| lamont | we really should deliver the abi files as part of one (or each) of the kernel packages | 07:00 |
| lamont | rather than scaping them from the log files | 07:00 |
| fabbione | yeah that's in the spec.. | 07:00 |
| fabbione | we need to think deeper about it :) | 07:01 |
| lamont | yeah - the proper place to put it would be linux-source, but that's arch: all --> no can do | 07:02 |
| lamont | maybe add a package that is nothing but the abi spec files? then you can install that and linux-source-2.6.NN, and have everything you need to build a kernel properly | 07:03 |
| === lamont realizes that he said he was going to bed about an hour ago. | ||
| lamont | g'night | 07:05 |
| fabbione | re | 07:05 |
| fabbione | there is the b-d problem to do that | 07:05 |
| lamont | hrm.. /me needs to deal with gcc-opt it appears. | 07:05 |
| fabbione | good night | 07:06 |
| fabbione | what's wrong with it? | 07:06 |
| fabbione | it's a global problem or local? | 07:06 |
| lamont | -O gets misparsed | 07:06 |
| lamont | only if you restrict to < 2 | 07:06 |
| lamont | is it a problem, that is | 07:06 |
| fabbione | ah ok | 07:06 |
| lamont | else if (c=='\0') | 07:07 |
| lamont | OptLevel=1; | 07:07 |
| lamont | DOH!!! | 07:07 |
| lamont | -O is == -O2, yes?" | 07:07 |
| fabbione | whoops | 07:07 |
| === lamont kills the atlas build | ||
| lamont | that hurts | 07:08 |
| lamont | gcc -O | 07:14 |
| lamont | gcc-opt: forcing -O1 | 07:14 |
| lamont | gcc-4.0.gcc-opt: no input files | 07:14 |
| lamont | much better | 07:14 |
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| fabbione | r/sc | 07:58 |
| fabbione | meh jb is not around | 07:58 |
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| fabbione | Total 1594 package(s) | 02:43 |
| fabbione | Needs-Build :) | 02:43 |
| fabbione | Total 621 package(s) | 02:44 |
| fabbione | Building | 02:44 |
| fabbione | -20 in the buildd | 02:44 |
| fabbione | 601 in DepWait/FTBFS | 02:44 |
| fabbione | not really encouraging | 02:44 |
| fabbione | but most of them are missing B-D on X and DepWait | 02:44 |
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| fabbione | hey jbailey | 03:10 |
| jbailey | Fabio! | 03:17 |
| fabbione | jbailey ! | 03:17 |
| jbailey | Tell me about klibc on sparc. | 03:17 |
| fabbione | i did prepare a chroot with the new libc on sparc | 03:17 |
| jbailey | I want it working on sparc and hppa today. =) | 03:18 |
| jbailey | Ooo ooo ooo! | 03:18 |
| fabbione | klibc is FTBFS | 03:18 |
| fabbione | i think i told you already | 03:18 |
| fabbione | now.. i have the chroot.. what do you want me to test with it? | 03:18 |
| jbailey | Assume since you can get into it that shell and ls and friends work. | 03:20 |
| jbailey | +I | 03:21 |
| fabbione | yeah they do | 03:21 |
| === fabbione uploads | ||
| jbailey | *lol* alright then. =) | 03:22 |
| jbailey | I've only been awake for 6 or 7 minutes. =) | 03:22 |
| fabbione | that's fine :) | 03:22 |
| jbailey | Did you seriously just upload? | 03:22 |
| === doko things it's time to make fabbione unhappy ... | ||
| fabbione | no.. i moved it to the upload dir... | 03:23 |
| doko | s/g/k/ | 03:23 |
| fabbione | jbailey: i did test apt and such | 03:23 |
| jbailey | t would be nice if you could test something that uses getpid | 03:23 |
| jbailey | Like top | 03:23 |
| fabbione | hmm | 03:23 |
| fabbione | sure | 03:23 |
| jbailey | REmember that this instance has the known clone bug in it. | 03:23 |
| jbailey | Next upload will have that fixed (and hopefully some langpack love for pitti) | 03:24 |
| fabbione | i trash langpacks | 03:24 |
| fabbione | there is no way LP can access external buildds | 03:24 |
| jbailey | Sounds like a bug. | 03:24 |
| fabbione | doko: what are you going to upload? | 03:25 |
| fabbione | jbailey: LP is designed to access only DC buildds | 03:25 |
| jbailey | Then it's broken. | 03:25 |
| jbailey | Becuase ports will never be DC. | 03:25 |
| fabbione | jbailey: rule is: given port foo with a community, Mark will buy buildds to put at the datacenter | 03:26 |
| fabbione | sparc and hppa are 2 exceptions | 03:26 |
| fabbione | very special cased because it's lamont and me running them | 03:26 |
| === doko feels the level of uncertainty raise | ||
| jbailey | How big does the community need to be? =) | 03:27 |
| fabbione | jbailey: at least 50/100 users? | 03:27 |
| jbailey | Oh, that's easy enough. | 03:27 |
| jbailey | Hell, we have that many Hurd users. =) | 03:27 |
| fabbione | we can start faking email addresses and domains to mail bomb Mark asking for them :) | 03:27 |
| doko | fabbione: 4.0.1 | 03:28 |
| fabbione | but hounestly.. i did stop Mark from buying sparc buildd's | 03:28 |
| fabbione | doko: dude.. get it right or i might knock on your door this evening | 03:28 |
| jbailey | AH did 4.0.1 release? I'm a couple days behind on the toolchain lists. | 03:29 |
| doko | RC2 | 03:29 |
| jbailey | BUt initramfs now works for the three cases that I claim it should. | 03:29 |
| jbailey | head is in stage 3 now, right? | 03:29 |
| fabbione | jbailey: top seems to work fine | 03:30 |
| fabbione | anything fancy you want me to test? | 03:30 |
| jbailey | You don't have a spare machine, right? | 03:31 |
| fabbione | nope | 03:31 |
| jbailey | Oh well. I would suggest booting with it usually. | 03:31 |
| jbailey | Just because the change is so drastic. | 03:31 |
| jbailey | GA and upload then. =) | 03:32 |
| fabbione | yeah who cares :) | 03:32 |
| fabbione | there are probably 4 sparc users out there | 03:32 |
| fabbione | jbailey: in case it works.. you have to add a changelog entry for libc in debian: | 03:34 |
| fabbione | "NTPL on sparc is dedicated to that Kamikaze of fabbione" | 03:34 |
| fabbione | ;) | 03:35 |
| jbailey | It won't happen in Debian until the sparc porters say clearly that they want it to happen. | 03:35 |
| fabbione | ahaha | 03:35 |
| fabbione | that will never happen | 03:35 |
| fabbione | no.. really.. | 03:35 |
| jbailey | Exactly. | 03:35 |
| fabbione | they can't even agree on what kind of toilet papers to use... | 03:35 |
| fabbione | generally speaking i mean | 03:35 |
| jbailey | Right. | 03:35 |
| fabbione | Benc and davem are pretty sane tho | 03:36 |
| jbailey | benc's last directive was 'don't to nptl' | 03:36 |
| jbailey | A quick poll of the other Debian glibc folks say that they are not in a rush to move away from LinuxThreads. | 03:36 |
| jbailey | So I do not expect to roll out nptl in Debian the way I have in Ubuntu. | 03:36 |
| fabbione | you can still use a very good argument | 03:37 |
| fabbione | "I overabused my Ubuntu powers to get it tested on 6 arches and it works...." | 03:37 |
| jbailey | 5. Hppa isn't there yet. =) | 03:37 |
| fabbione | ".. but it's your call to decide" | 03:37 |
| fabbione | ah right.. hppa is even behind on the buildd! | 03:37 |
| jbailey | Right, and drow said "No. Ubuntu may be able to get away with it, but Debian has a different situation" | 03:37 |
| fabbione | for once i am satisfied for not being the slowest arch :))) | 03:38 |
| jbailey | LOL | 03:38 |
| doko | ohh, I didn't know that infinity did join the porting team ;-P | 03:40 |
| fabbione | doko: no. i got the second buildd running | 03:41 |
| doko | no m68buntu :-/ | 03:41 |
| fabbione | probably.. if we start m68buntu i will add 2 buildds here :) | 03:42 |
| fabbione | anyway it's saturday.. the sun is shining.. my wife has backed a cake | 03:42 |
| fabbione | cya later fellas | 03:42 |
| fabbione | Uploading via ftp glibc_2.3.5-1ubuntu7_sparc.changes: done. | 03:43 |
| fabbione | Successfully uploaded packages. | 03:43 |
| fabbione | ENJOY THE RIDE | 03:43 |
| jbailey | fabbione: Lovely. Unblock glibc from the buildd then, please? =) | 03:43 |
| fabbione | i did already | 03:43 |
| fabbione | ;) | 03:43 |
| fabbione | i am off | 03:43 |
| jbailey | c'ya Fabio! | 03:44 |
| doko | lamont, infinity: please could you look at the build failure of db4.2 on i386? gij-4.0 is supposed to install the /usr/bin/java symlink as an alternative | 10:24 |
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