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mcscruffis there a manuel way to install deb files without it checking dependencies?12:00
LathropWellsHappyFool - did you say sa South America?12:00
exobotI'm trying to make ndiswrapper make my wireless card work...12:00
heimdallHappyFool :oh oh oh.... you're going too fast (sorry) I'm still with this kernel package, and you're telling me about another thing12:00
HappyFoolLathropWells: south africa12:00
djm62mcscruff: you can force it with dpkg12:00
HappyFoolheimdall: sorry ;)12:00
LathropWellsHappyFool - Nice12:00
mcscruffi think if i force them both it should work12:00
djm62mcscruff: but you might just be better compiling from source...12:00
HappyFoolLathropWells: i like it ;) except i wish i had dsl ;)12:00
Cooner750pfp; I get this error: tar: /mnt/fatdisk/homedir.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory12:01
Cooner750tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now12:01
djm62mcscruff: forcing messes with the integrity of the package database12:01
HappyFoolheimdall: basically, there's not too much to install12:01
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PrawntasmMy dhclient isn't receiving any offers, does anyone have any idea what's wrong?12:01
heimdallHappyFool : no pb, but I prefer understand what I'm doing.. and all of that is brand new (you better than anyone here know that I never succedeed:)12:01
Cooner750the external HD is mounted as sda12:01
Cooner750/mnt/sda12:01
djm62mcscruff: I just found the page...I don't know why ubuntu's so out of date12:01
HappyFoolheimdall: quite a lot of what's necessary is already on the cd12:01
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pfpCooner750: mmm, replace /mnt/fatdisk with the dir where you mounted your fat32 partition to12:01
mcscruffdju62: i force it in other distros, hopefully ubuntu will be the same12:01
LathropWellsHappyFool - two phonlines and a "Bonded Channel"?12:01
heimdallHappyFool : http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kernel-package&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all this one ?12:01
mcscruffbut i use gui to force with them12:02
HappyFoolLathropWells: you've completely lost me12:02
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LathropWellsHappyFool - shotgun modem.12:02
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HappyFoolLathropWells: err... ok ;)12:03
djm62mcscruff: maybe you should compile...12:03
Cooner750If I could just install Ubuntu on the external i'd be good to go. Will the installer let me resize a partiton?... gparted will not let me select any partition options on the external HD12:03
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HappyFoolheimdall: yeah12:03
lukus001is there a defult root admin password when you first install ubuntu?12:03
HappyFoolheimdall: that and the two sl-modem- packages i pointed you to earlier12:03
jasmuzlukus001, no12:03
heimdallokay12:03
pfplukus001: see this page:12:03
HappyFoollukus001: root is disabled by default. use sudo12:03
pfp!rootsudo12:03
ubotuI heard rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo12:03
LathropWellsubotu tell lukus001 rootsudo12:04
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LathropWellslukus001 type  !rootsudo12:04
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exobotok, good12:04
exobotI am back to where I started ....12:04
lukus001~!rootsudo event not found?12:04
heimdallHappyFool : during the downloading time, can you remember me how to mount my partition ?12:04
HappyFoolheimdall: you'll also need to install 'build-essential', 'linux-headers-386' and 'dpkg-dev' -- all of these are on the install cd12:04
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heimdallok12:05
heimdalli note12:05
HappyFoolheimdall: yeah, that's not too hard. you have an ntfs partition ?12:05
exobotgoody, it's visible in the networking thing12:05
exobotOMG12:05
exobotOMG12:05
exobotOMG12:05
exobotit found.. another AP.. that means it must have scanned...12:05
heimdallI think 'build-essential have been already installed12:05
exobotthat means.. it must be working!12:05
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heimdallduring the installation process12:05
HappyFoolheimdall: it's not installed by default12:05
carlos_still havent found how to enable my second nic card12:05
heimdalloh12:06
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HappyFoolheimdall: most users don't need gcc ;)12:06
heimdallok so .. :)12:06
HappyFoolthat's the theory, anyway12:06
lsuactiafnergcc rocks12:06
pfplukus001: he meant on the channel :), that makes ubotu spit out the url12:06
lsuactiafnermost ppl should have it jsut to brag12:06
lukus001oh12:06
lukus001!rootsudo12:06
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uboturumour has it, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo12:06
lsuactiafneri like my woman like i like my programming.. c++12:06
exobotyeesssss12:06
lsuactiafnerhehe12:06
exobotNdiswrapper 1.2 is the way forward...12:07
Cooner750http://img77.echo.cx/img77/2029/screenshot9nj.png12:07
heimdallok12:07
HappyFoolheimdall: anyway, to mount an ntfs partition, first you must create the mount point: 'sudo mkdir /media/windows'12:07
Cooner750thats what happens with my external HD in gparted12:07
heimdallHappyFool : this is a FAT32 partition12:07
HappyFoolheimdall: and then to mount it, 'mount -t ntfs -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/windows'12:07
HappyFoolheimdall: err, ok12:07
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Cooner750oops. hold on. wrong screenshot12:08
exobotReboot time, please please work when I restart12:08
HappyFoolheimdall: let me just read the man page quick ;) i think it's similar12:08
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heimdallHappyFool : sorry ;)12:08
pfpnice backgroubd though12:08
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devianthello guys12:08
heimdallHappyFool : I've made a fat32 partition coz a friend of mine told me it was easier to share files between linux and windows12:09
deviantis there any way i cand make gaim to view a web cam from a user, using yahoo account ?!?12:09
HappyFoolheimdall: it is. fat32 is read-write under linux, while ntfs is read-only12:09
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heimdallok12:09
heimdallso this is what I want12:09
doogluspeter_: no.12:09
GNULinuxerdeviant, no12:09
HappyFoolheimdall: i'm going to give you a read-only mount command, just for safety12:09
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heimdallso it was a good advice, I'll thank him ;)12:10
GNULinuxerdeviant, try gaim-vv12:10
heimdallHappyFool : oh ?12:10
sorush20has anyone here had problems with firefox installing Flash plugin in Ubuntu12:10
djm62gah12:10
sorush20quote; yes12:10
heimdallHappyFool : just for the moment ok12:10
fpsIn debian, the default mysql-server root user has no password.  In ubuntu, this seems not to be the case. Any clue what the mysql root user's password is by default?12:10
dooglusI've installed 'breezy'.  What's the easiest way to be able to run the old 'hoary' version of evolution?12:10
exobotHAH12:11
exobotYES12:11
HappyFoolheimdall: sudo mount -t vfat -o umask=222,ro /dev/hda1 /media/windows12:11
exobotHAHAHA I BEAT YOU NDISWRAPPER12:11
exobotbrb, connecting in xchat on ubuntu12:11
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heimdall',' ?12:11
HappyFoolheimdall: then all your windows files will be available under /media/windows12:11
HappyFoolyah12:11
heimdallok12:11
HappyFooli'm reasonably certain that's correct... let me try it12:12
heimdallhum12:12
lukus001okay .... it says i dont have permission to write to the folder... how can i move a file from my desktop to a folder? drag and drop wont work ...12:12
fpsheimdall, ',' seperates -o arguments for mount12:12
heimdallhda1 is the name of the partition no ?12:12
heimdallor the disk name ?12:12
newuserExcuse me, When I download a source code (like tor) where does it get saved?12:12
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HappyFoolheimdall: yeah. oh, that assumes that windows is on the first partition12:12
newuser=)12:12
heimdallHappyFool : yeah but this is not the one I wnat to share12:12
HappyFoollukus001: the file should be in /home/lukus/Desktop12:12
heimdall:)12:12
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heimdallHappyFool : sorry lol12:12
exobot:D12:12
HappyFoollukus001: use 'sudo mv' to move it12:12
exobotyayyyy12:12
exobotLinuxJones, I got it working :)!12:13
lukus001yeah but  want to move it to var/install/java/1.4.212:13
lukus001agh12:13
heimdallHappyFool : I think the is so hda212:13
lukus001ah*12:13
pedro_mldonkey is post 127.0.0.1:4001 does not accept connections (core not found)12:13
dooglusnewuser: what did you do to download the source code?12:13
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HappyFoollukus001: or maybe 'gksudo nautilus' to get a 'root' nautilus12:13
newuserWell I was wrong, i'm sorry..12:13
HappyFoolheimdall: ok, then /dev/hda2 instead of /dev/hda112:13
newuserI meant, that i've downloaded tor,12:13
newuserBut where can I save this to install it from the kernel?12:13
heimdallHappyFool : ok12:13
newuserI am reading, but I can't find my answer.12:13
dooglusnewuser: how did you download it?12:13
newuserI'm, sorry..12:13
HappyFoolheimdall: um, ok, so you've got the packages, you've got build tools12:14
heimdallHappyFool : and what is the read-only parameter in your command ?12:14
HappyFoolheimdall: ro12:14
newuserttp://mirror.noreply.org/pub/tor12:14
djm62newuser: I'm not quite clear on what you mean...12:14
shekharhello anyone here know how to dial a mobile phone via bluetooth in hoary?12:14
heimdallHappyFool : obviously :-D12:14
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HappyFool-o umask=222 sets the permissions to r-xr-xr-x for all files (means all users can read)12:14
newuserI'm just trying to set this up, but i'm having some difficulties..12:14
newuser=(12:14
HappyFooland the ,ro is an extra option, making the mount read-only12:15
heimdallHappyFool : rw or wr after ?12:15
HappyFoolheimdall: it's rwx12:15
djm62newuser: have you enabled the other repositories in sources.list?12:15
heimdalllol oki :)12:15
HappyFoolheimdall: sorry, i guess this is all linux-speak12:15
heimdalllike chmod12:15
newuserNo..12:15
HappyFoolheimdall: yeah12:15
heimdallokay12:15
djm62newuser: tor is in the "universe" repository12:15
HappyFoolheimdall: let me just take a last check at the package dependencies12:15
dooglusnewuser: you just need to "sudo apt-get install tor"12:15
newuserHow do I enable it?12:15
heimdallHappyFool : oki12:15
djm62newuser: which means if you uncomment (remove the '#' mark) the right lines in /etc/apt/sources.list12:16
djm62newuser: you can use synaptic to install tor12:16
HappyFoolheimdall: ah, you also need libasound -- that might be installed by default. it's on the cd if it isn't12:16
djm62newuser: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto12:17
dooglusnewuser: 'tor' is in 'universe'.  you need to add 'universe' to your repositories12:17
steobany one have any ideas about this: ALSA /usr/src/alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a/alsa-kernel/pci/atiixp.c:518: atiixp: codec reset timeout12:17
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heimdallHappyFool : lol.... this is horrible....12:17
HappyFoolheimdall: yeah12:17
newuserAh I see, well thanks alot.12:17
HappyFoolheimdall: it's a lot easier if you're connected to the net12:17
HappyFoolheimdall: ah-ha12:17
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HappyFoolheimdall: you also need module-assistant, which must be downloaded (again, packages.ubuntu.com)12:18
heimdallHappyFool : with me it has always be the hard way12:18
heimdall..12:18
HappyFoolheimdall: heh.12:18
HappyFoolheimdall: ok, first install build-essential, dpkg-dev, linux-headers-386 and libasound (all from the cd)12:18
HappyFoolheimdall: you should be able to use apt-get for all of those12:19
HappyFoolheimdall: as in 'sudo apt-get install <packagename>'12:19
heimdallyeah12:19
Codeman7Hi, I have a problem. my X keeps freezing for a second or so every minute or so... if that makes sense. Pointer and typing just freeze for a second, and then resume.12:19
HappyFoolheimdall: then install module-assistant, using dpkg: 'sudo dpkg -i module-assistant'12:19
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fpsIn debian, the default mysql-server root user has no password.  In ubuntu, this seems not to be the case. Any clue what the mysql root user's password is by default?12:19
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lsuactiafnerCodeman7 : you got a slow pc?12:20
HappyFoolheimdall: and then 'sl-modem-source', using dpkg again: 'sudo dpkg -i sl-modem-source'12:20
Cooner750what is the password for the default livecd user 'ubuntu'!? I accidently locked the screen and I have to use the power button to reboot and I lost all of my settings12:20
Codeman7lsuactiafner: 1.13GHz PIII?12:20
newuserHey, thanks for the great link.. I'm really greatful. Bye12:20
Codeman7lsuactiafner: Ubuntu is running really smoothly and VERY quick, it's just the intermittent freeze that is causing problems.12:21
heimdallok12:21
lsuactiafneronboard graphics card?12:21
heimdalland the deamon ?12:21
exobotmmmm12:21
exobotsmooth12:21
Codeman7lsuactiafner: Yeah, it's a laptop. I am using the GeForce2 Go drivers, though, which made no difference.12:21
djm62newuser: come back if you have problems ;)12:21
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HappyFoolheimdall: also install kernel-package : sudo dpkg -i kernel-package12:21
newuserHehe thanks alot..12:21
lsuactiafnerCodeman7 : what are you doing when it stalls?12:21
Cooner750ubuntu runs very well on a AMD Athlon XP 3200 :)12:21
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Codeman7lsuactiafner: Anything. Sitting at the desktop, using irssi, firefox...12:21
lsuactiafneryour cpu might be going idle to save batteries12:22
HappyFoolheimdall: ok, now you can read /usr/share/doc/sl-modem-source/README.Debian12:22
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HappyFoolheimdall: i'm giving you the 'make-kpkg' recipe mentioned there12:22
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heimdallHappyFool : just sudo dpkg -i, and it will install the sources ?? no need to compile something ?12:23
Codeman7lsuactiafner: So what can I do about it?12:23
griffevening guys12:23
HappyFoolheimdall: yes, but it will *only* install the sources12:23
HappyFoolheimdall: we're still getting the compile bit ;)12:23
benplautd*mn! flux is FAST!12:23
lsuactiafnerCodeman7 : this is terrible but it might work... pgrep -u your_X_user | xargs renice -312:23
heimdallaaaaah12:23
heimdall:)12:23
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lsuactiafneruse sudo12:23
heimdallit could'nt be that easy :)12:23
benplautneeds some GUI config tools, though12:23
grifftrying to sort out vmware on ubuntu - I've downloaded the linux-2.6.10-5 headers and I'm trying to compile the kernel... getting this error - make[1] : *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.  Stop.12:23
griffany ideas?12:23
lsuactiafnerbenplaut : blackbox is faster12:24
djm62benplaut: fluxconf12:24
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Moe|Joehey12:24
Moe|Joehow do i go about editing a txt file in commandline?12:24
djm62benplaut: although there is satisfaction in making your own theme12:24
HappyFoolheimdall: just a moment... i'm installing kernel-package12:24
djm62Moe|Joe: nano textfile.txt12:24
pepsigriff, compiling the kernel for vmware?12:24
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benplautdjm62: i'm using it... but it's actually (IMO) easier to use the text files than that thing...12:24
griffok12:24
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player1Hi all!!12:24
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benplauthello12:25
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djm62Moe|Joe: the ^s on the bottom represent the ctrl key for entering commands12:25
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lsuactiafnerCodeman7 : did it help?12:25
griffpepsi, when I try to install vmware, vmware complains with this error when I point it to the linux headers - The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic" is an existing12:25
griffdirectory, but it does not contain at least one of these directories "linux",12:25
griff"asm", "net" as expected. So does that mean I have to compile the kernel to create those directories?12:25
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player1I am building a video game system... I need to control the mouse in KDE and fluxbox with the joystick... anyone know how i can do this? TIA :)12:25
Codeman7lsuactiafner: I keep getting "setpriority: Permission denied"12:25
griffheh - hope that doesn't count as a flood :D12:25
Moe|Joe(djm62): so i press ctrl+s yeh?12:26
lsuactiafnerCodeman7 : sudo before the command12:26
Codeman7lsuactiafner: Didn't help12:26
pepsigriff, you should be able to just hit enter for the path to the headers12:26
sorush20guys how do you get into SU mode in the terminal in Ubuntu12:26
Codeman7lsuactiafner: That is, I did use sudo before it12:26
djm62Moe|Joe: ^X means ctrl-X for instance12:26
Moe|Joekk12:27
lsuactiafnerCodeman7 : run the command as root, get a root terminal then12:27
djm62Moe|Joe: when you run nano, the commands are listed at the bottom of the screen so you don't have to remember12:27
Moe|Joewriteout means save file?12:27
Codeman7lsuactiafner: K, that worked.12:27
djm62Moe|Joe: yeah12:27
griffpepsi, the default path that vmware suggests on installation is good old /usr/src/linux/include - but I don't have it (I'm using AMD64)12:27
Codeman7lsuactiafner: Alright, lemme use it for a few minutes and see if anything improved.12:27
sorush20I keep trying to get into the SU mode in the terminal but it asks me for a passwrod I only know of one pass since I installed Ubuntu and that doesn't work for the getting into SU mode.. can anyone help... please12:27
djm62Moe|Joe: although if you exit, it will ask if you want to save12:27
pepsiah12:27
Moe|Joekk12:28
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HappyFoolheimdall: ok12:28
djm62sorush20: there is no root passwd: use sudo with your own passwd to temporarily gain privileges12:28
griffso I probably don't have something installed12:28
Moe|Joenow my laptop shud boot up properly :)12:28
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Codeman7nope, lsuactiafner ... still doing it.12:28
heimdallHappyFool : ok ?12:28
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sorush20djm62: thanks for the tip ,  right.. why is that.. in fedora and suse this is not the case12:28
HappyFoolheimdall: now cd to the linux 'source' directory: cd /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-512:28
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Codeman7lsuactiafner: Someone suggested it may have something to do with laptop power management, but didn't know how to turn it off...12:29
HappyFoolheimdall: then type 'sudo make-kpkg modules_image'12:29
HappyFoolheimdall: a .deb file will appear in /usr/src12:29
djm62sorush20: ubuntu people think it's easier, and safer not to have a root user to tempt people to login as root, and not to have a rarely-used passwd that you HAVE to remember12:29
lsuactiafnerCodeman7 : then as periodically here.. till someone can answer you.. i think its got to do with too-aggressive power management12:29
HappyFoolheimdall: should be called sl-modem-modules-2.6.10_2.9.9a-1ubuntu4+10.00.Custom_i386.deb12:29
heimdalloh...12:29
heimdallwait wait wait :)12:30
lsuactiafnerrun top and check whats using resources when it stalls12:30
HappyFoolheimdall: that is the compile step12:30
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HappyFoolheimdall: now install that package (using dpkg -i) and install sl-modem-daemon as well12:30
HappyFoolheimdall: now your modem driver is installed12:30
djm62sorush20: you can enable the root passwd, but things run quite well without it, other than some specific cases12:30
pepsigriff, you using vmware 4 or 5?12:30
heimdallHappyFool : lol great.... this IS difficule :)12:30
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heimdalldifficult12:31
HappyFoolheimdall: um, i don't know if sl-modem-daemon creates a /dev/modem -- if it does, then all you need to do is run pppconfig, or use the gnome network tool12:31
griffpepsi, two mins - getting somewhere here :)12:31
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HappyFoolheimdall: if it doesn't, you need to find out what it's called the modem (it'll be /dev/tty<seomthing>, probably)12:31
HappyFooland use than in pppconfig12:31
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HappyFoolman, it's late *yawn*12:31
paintoothasp on linux ^_^ http://www.sun.com/software/chilisoft/12:32
paintoothhi12:32
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Codeman7lsuactiafner: Is gnome-terminal, while rug irssi, supposed to use 40-50% cpu?12:32
Gombenihow can I instruct mc to drop me in the last directory I was in before exiting it?12:32
sggsHi folks. Installed ubuntu hoary on my dad's computer, with dual boot windows xp. I installed grub in the MBR. Everything worked fine for a couple of days when suddenly, now he gets "GRUB loading, please wait... / Error 15"12:32
Codeman7lsuactiafner: And something just jumped up while it froze but I couldn't catch it12:32
sggswhat can I do to debug the problem?12:32
Cooner750brb12:33
HappyFoolsggs: error 15 is 'file not found'12:33
pfpGombeni: write a shell wrapper for it?12:33
HappyFoolsggs: do you know what changed on the machine?12:33
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sggsHappyFool: what file is it looking for? I don't think anything changed on the machine, except if winxp did it by itself12:34
Gombenipfp: in some distros it did it by default12:34
paintoothCodeman7:  ?12:34
sorush20how the hell do you install java on Ubuntu?12:34
HappyFoolsggs: at a guess, /boot/grub/menu.lst or another file in that directory (/boot/grub/) has gone missing, though i can't imagein why12:34
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M_Fatihhi all12:34
HappyFoolsorush20: see wiki.ubuntu.com/Java for instructions12:34
fabioOh guys I am having problem with sound!! ;((12:34
fabioAll of a sudden Ubuntu doesn't play the sound!!12:35
pfpGombeni: i don't use mc... maybe there's a conffile option for it?12:35
M_Fatihi have a problem with my soundcard. i can't play sounds in my manually added user..12:35
heimdallHappyFool : hum, when you said "now install that package as well using dpkg -i" you mean for the .deb file ?12:35
M_Fatihi have joinned "audio grou"12:35
M_Fatihi have joinned "audio group" this user..12:35
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HappyFoolheimdall: yes, the one you created with make-kpkg12:35
pfpM_Fatih: have you logged out & back in after joining the group?12:35
fabioit was playing great till 5mins ago... I have then installed Mplayer for Firefox and after that it seemed to play about! ;((] 12:35
HappyFoolheimdall: any last questions? I need to go to sleep12:36
griffpepsi,  fixed it :) stupidity on my part12:36
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M_Fatihpfp, so many times.. :(12:36
Codeman7paintooth: what what?12:36
pepsigriff, what was the problem?12:36
M_Fatihi only listen music with my root user :..((12:36
linux_newbieHi, can anyone help me with installing Apache, php, and MySQL??12:36
heimdallHappyFool : I think I won't manage for the first time, this is a lot of information for a rookie like me... but you deserve to sleep !!12:36
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paintoothCodeman7:  strange gnome status12:36
griffI installed too many linux header packages and it confused something12:36
HappyFoolheimdall: yeah, unfortunately it is complex :(12:37
M_Fatihlinux_newbie, what is problem..?12:37
pfpM_Fatih: hmm. does running 'id' in a shell show this group?12:37
sggsHappyFool: can you check if anything is wrong here? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/11512:37
djm62gah...sound on linux needs the fix0r12:37
fabioSound is Back!!! Yeeees :P12:37
paintoothCodeman7:  mine is ok12:37
HappyFoollinux_newbie: use synaptic. system -> administration -> synaptic12:37
fabiolinux_newbie, sure I will12:37
HappyFoolsggs: just quickly. i'm falling asleep at the keyboard ;)12:37
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heimdallHappyFool : I can't do much to thank you but ....12:37
linux_newbiei have everything installed12:37
heimdallHappyFool : it was very nice to take all this time to explain to me12:37
fabiolinux_newbie, http:127.0.0.1 and see what happen?12:38
linux_newbienow how can i configure and run apache with php and mysql?12:38
HappyFoolsggs: is that it?12:38
HappyFoolheimdall: no problem ;)12:38
fabiolinux_newbie, oh uhm yes, just a se12:38
HappyFoolheimdall: i hope you get it working12:38
sggsHappyFool: I snipped the beginning to tell the truth12:38
linux_newbiefabio, let me try that12:38
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HappyFoolsggs: the top half of that file is missing12:38
HappyFoolsggs: ah12:38
HappyFoolsggs: good ;)12:38
linux_newbiefabio, i get the default apache page where it tells me to replace it with my own page12:38
heimdallHappyFool : I hope so.... but you now what ? if I don't, I'll try, try try try and try again ;)12:38
linux_newbiewhat about the php?12:38
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fabiolinux_newbie, great, no u need php12:39
HappyFoolheimdall: good stuff12:39
heimdallknow*12:39
linux_newbiei installed everything12:39
fabiolinux_newbie, sudo apt-get install php412:39
CynetixHello :) I just installed ubuntu and it installed grub and rebooted but went into XP instead of ubuntu. Any suggestions.12:39
linux_newbiei just don't know what to do next12:39
linux_newbiefabio, i did that already12:39
fabiowell u are done12:39
HappyFoolsggs: can you also paste up there the output of 'ls -l /boot' and 'sudo fdisk -l' ?12:39
sggsHappyFool: I'm suspicious about the /dev/sda7 part. sda7 appears to be /home, while sda6 is /12:39
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HappyFoolsggs: hmm12:40
linux_newbiewhat about the mysql, how do i know if it works?12:40
linux_newbieand the php12:40
phoenixp3kwhat is the path to the printer program in Ubuntu?12:40
HappyFoolsggs: but why would it have changed?12:40
fabiolinux_newbie, you are done, next? Place a file inside /var/www called info.php or whatever pleases you12:40
linux_newbieok12:40
sggsHappyFool: yep, a second, just booting the ubuntu live cd12:40
linux_newbieshould i try phpinfo fabio??12:40
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fabiolinux_newbie, and type inside that file      <?php phpinfo() ?>12:40
linux_newbieok12:41
HappyFoolsggs: i really do need to go to bed ;)12:41
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linux_newbielet me do that fabio12:41
djm62futurama calls12:41
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sggsHappyFool: can you wait 5 more minutes please? :)12:41
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HappyFoolsure12:41
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=== player1 is so sexy!!
fabiolinux_newbie, about MySql? Well just get PHPMyadmin, and it will hopefully run, so you can see MySql if it's working or not ;P12:41
linux_newbiei have herd of php myadmin12:42
Codeman7paintooth: oh... yeah, I dunno... it's fine now :/12:42
linux_newbiebut how do i get it fabio?12:42
fabiolinux_newbie, get what? phpmyadmin? http://www.phpmyadmin.com12:42
paintooth#@$%^^%&*(12:42
sggsHappyFool: why I think anything could have changed on this computer is because the hard drive is making a weird sound...12:42
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HappyFoolsggs: eek12:42
sggslol12:42
paintoothrandon ol12:42
paintoothrandon lol12:43
fabiolinux_newbie, oh remember that for every file you want to put into /var/www you must be root12:43
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sggsHappyFool: even though I'm booting a live CD. It shouldn't access the hard drive should it?12:43
deviantcan anyone help me. when i`m using gaim-vv web cam feature, the only thing i cand see is a green bird. what`s rong?12:43
HappyFoolsggs: it might read the drive12:43
sggsHappyFool: I'm at the "Starting Enterprise Volume Management System" part of the boot process12:43
fabiolinux_newbie, so just do like   sudo gedit /var/www/test.php12:43
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linux_newbieoh, ok fabio, thank you12:44
paintoothhehe12:44
limeranyone here familiar with PAN?12:44
fabiolinux_newbie, yw, oh sorry the link was http://www.phpmyadmin.net12:44
linux_newbieoh, ok fabio12:45
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fabiolinux_newbie, just download the latest version, extract into the www dir and lunch the index.php ;) Have fun12:45
Fanskapethmm is WINE working in 64bit linux yet?12:45
fabiolaunch12:45
linux_newbieThank you soo much fabio12:46
paintoothhehe12:46
fabiolinux_newbie, no probs, you welcome, ask if you got other probs ;)12:46
linux_newbieo, i will12:47
limeranyone here familiar with the PAN newsreader?12:47
sggsHappyFool: that's a long time reading...12:47
linux_newbieg2g for now, i will be back12:47
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HappyFoolsggs: hmm12:47
phoenixp3kcould someone at least tell me the name of Ubuntu's printing program?12:47
HappyFoolphoenixp3k: i think the print manager is called 'cups'12:47
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Fanskapetisn't cups only the driver interface?12:48
linux_newbiefabio, u here?12:48
HappyFoolnot sure. i don't have a printer ;)12:48
fabiolinux_newbie, sure12:48
sggsHappyFool: the noise stopped, but nothing is happening any more...12:48
phoenixp3kHappyFool, thanks I'll look into it12:48
linux_newbiewhen i go to http://localhost/tet.php it asks me to download it??12:48
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linux_newbie**test.php12:48
HappyFoolphoenixp3k: see System -> Administration -> Printing12:48
sggslinux_newbie: you need to set the php mime type in apache12:49
fabiolinux_newbie, ohh, you didn't do the installation correctly then12:49
HappyFoolsggs: nothing?12:49
linux_newbieok, so what do i have to do?12:49
HappyFoolsggs: the live-cd boot has frozen?12:49
fabiolinux_newbie, or the configuration rather12:49
linux_newbieok, can u help me with that?12:49
sggsHappyFool: right, looks so. stopped at enterprise volume management system12:49
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fabiolinux_newbie, will try just a sex12:49
likkashotdamnit im going to die before i get this nic card to work12:50
fabiooppps sec12:50
phoenixp3kHappyFool, my browser asks that I specify the printer program location12:50
sggsbefore I've managed to boot without any problem. The noise was there though12:50
linux_newbiefabio, what?\12:50
HappyFoolsggs: but previously ubuntu was installed with no problems?12:50
HappyFoolphoenixp3k: sorry, as i said, i don't have a printer. try /usr/bin/lpr, see if that works12:50
fabiolinux_newbie, sorry I meant just a sec, anyway this will probably help you: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#apachehttpserver12:50
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linux_newbielet me see if that site will help me, fabio12:51
HappyFoolsggs: it looks like you might have a hardware problem, but i don't know12:51
sggsHappyFool: Yes and no: yes because I could boot into Ubuntu or Windows at choice, and no because ubuntu wouldn't start the Xserver because of some graphic card compatibility problem12:51
fabiolinux_newbie, sure, it worked for me ;)12:51
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sggsHappyFool: That's what I'm thinking as well. Since the computer is new and still under waranty, I told my dad I won't spend too much time on it...12:52
HappyFoolsggs: i'm not sure what to suggest12:52
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HappyFoolsggs: i'd backup the data and try to get a new drive, or whatever12:52
HappyFoolsggs: anyway, i'm off to bed12:52
sggsHappyFool: Thanks anyways. good night12:52
HappyFoolgood night ;)12:52
newuserI need a C, compiler.. Does anyone have a clue of which package I should obtain for that? =)12:52
sorush20guys I'm trying to this directory to install flash manually but its not working I get the message that the directory does not exsists12:52
sorush20cd//home/sadaf/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux12:52
pepsinewuser, build-essentials12:52
ompaulnewuser, g__12:53
ompaulnewuser, g++ sorry12:53
newuserHuh?12:53
mjrnewuser, pepsi, actually, build-essential, without the s12:53
newuserHehe, either which?12:53
pepsiok12:53
newuserHehe..12:53
ompaulnewuser, apt-get build-essential - is a lot more than the compiler but is really useful12:53
linux_newbiefabio, thanks for the site12:53
newuserOkay i'm on it.12:54
newuserThanks,12:54
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linux_newbiei may be on later if i need any more help, i appreciate it12:54
fabiolinux_newbie, np, di it work?12:54
phoenixp3kHappyFool, thanks for the help, I think I found the right program in that directory12:54
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likkashotany ubuntu wizzards in here12:56
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robertjlikkashot: not I, but if you ask a question you might attract the attention of one12:56
fabiolikkashot, why what r u looking for?12:56
dampjamI have a very strange problem, like a memory leak.  I recently installed Ubuntu on a laptop that functions as a router.  It runs DHCP Server 3, has a few ip tables rules, and ssh.  Over a week, the time to connect via ssh slows down, then will not accept any, and at that point DHCP server stops giving out ips, but the iptable rules still work.12:56
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ompaulone persons wizzard is anothers junior sys admin, ask your question and see what happens likkashot12:57
likkashotive been here since last night hahaha=12:57
linux_newbiefabio, i followed the guide, but it still asks to download the file12:57
dampjamIt's like it will not start any more threads12:57
chillywillyhey ppl12:57
SeamusLPdampjam:  Does restarting DHCP help?12:57
fabiolinux_newbie, hmm, have you downloaded the extra repositories and everything b4 trying to install php?12:58
chillywillyI have several problems after installing Ubuntu amd64 on my penguin computing server12:58
linux_newbieyes12:58
dampjamSeamusLP: by the time it's that slow, I cannot even login locally to try to restart it12:58
likkashotI got a a network card problem  , I got 2 onboard card and one of them wont be discovered at all12:58
linux_newbielet me try agian, fabio12:58
ompaullikkashot, I still wonder what your question is12:58
SeamusLPdampjam:  Try setting up a cron job to restart it once or twice a week12:58
fabiolinux_newbie, ok, I won't be here for long anyway, time to go to bed soon ;)12:58
chillywilly1) I get this message: scsi_proc_hostdir_add: proc_mkdir failed for <NULL>12:58
likkashotHow do I make it work12:59
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linux_newbiefabio, it still asks to download12:59
linux_newbieany ideas?12:59
dampjamSeamusLP: hmmm, not sure I like that idea12:59
newuserAhh shoot, I need the damn cd to install build-essential12:59
newuserI don't have seem to have it anymore!12:59
ompaullikkashot, make what work? I am not good at getting blood out of a stone12:59
SeamusLPdampjam:  I'm not proposing that as a permanent solution, but for troubleshooting12:59
dampjamAre there utilities to see how ram is used by programs / what could be kiling the machine?12:59
fabiolinux_newbie, yes is not setted properly, so apache doesn't recognise that is a php file...12:59
chillywillyit's has RAID 5 with a 3ware 9500 SATA card in it12:59
bartekpdampjam: top12:59
linux_newbieoh12:59
SeamusLPdampjam: top is a good command-line utility01:00
linux_newbiehow do i make it recignize the file, fabio?01:00
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fabiolinux_newbie, i think it should inside apache settings or php.ini i cannot remember, just trying to google it 4 you01:00
dampjamI know about top, but I will not be home most of the day, and by the time it gets so bad, I cannot log in.  Is there a script that can email hourly results01:00
dampjammaybe a top | sendmail ?01:01
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fabiolinux_newbie, ohh did u restart apache after you installed mysql?01:01
deviantcan somebody help me with installing gst-jpeg2000-1.0.0 pls!!01:01
linux_newbieyes01:01
SeamusLPdampjam:  Hmm I'm certain there's a way to do that, but I'm not sure about the specifics.  Hold on just a second.01:01
chillywillyanyone know anything about this message: scsi_proc_hostdir_add: proc_mkdir failed for <NULL>01:02
linux_newbiefabio, did i have to edit the http config file??01:02
fabiolinux_newbie, oh that's the one, try to have a look for file extension, like php php3 and so01:02
linux_newbiefabio, how do i get to that file?01:03
linux_newbiei just know it from windows01:03
fabiolinux_newbie, just a sec01:04
linux_newbieok01:04
absintheosI have installed xfce4, and I would like to remove Gnome. However, I have gotten my sound fixed using alsa/oss01:04
absintheosIf I remove gnome will it break Alsa?01:05
absintheosHow could I remove gnome?01:05
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naliothabsintheos: are you short of space on your HD?01:06
dampjamabsintheos: install debian with the server option, or get Kubuntu01:06
fabiolinux_newbie, i think should be somewhere in /etc01:06
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linux_newbiefabio, let me look01:06
SeamusLPdampjam:  You'll have to ask someone else about that or google it, I can't get in contact with a very knowledgeable friend ;)01:06
fabiolinux_newbie, yes > /etc/apache201:07
linux_newbieok01:07
absintheosnalioth: No I'm not, I just don't use it anymore =)01:07
dampjamSeamusLP: well thanks for all your help, I'll try to keep it running, and use nice to make it the highest priority, so it should last beyond hte dhcp server01:07
SeamusLPdampjam:  also, try man sendmail01:07
deviantcan somebody help me with installing gst-jpeg2000-1.0.0 pls!!01:07
linux_newbiefabio, there are two folders, one is apache, and apache 2, which one?01:07
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chillywillythe real show stopper is: fsck.ext3: Filesystem has unsupported features (/boot) then *fsck: Get a newer version of e2fsck01:08
sorush20guys when I use  Nautilus I get the message that I don't have permision to write to these files.. how can I change this..01:08
linux_newbiefabio, never mind01:08
chillywillythen I have to ctrl-d to finish the boot up01:08
Fanskapetahh damn nice to have that ext3 driver for windows01:08
linux_newbieok, i have the httpd.conf file open in text editor01:08
linux_newbienow what, fabio?01:08
naliothFanskapet: better to have the ext3 in linux (without the filthy part)01:09
chillywillydanielb@corporate:/etc/apt$ e2fsck -V01:09
chillywillye2fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)01:09
chillywilly        Using EXT2FS Library version 1.35, 28-Feb-200401:09
chillywillyis that old?01:09
fabiolinux_newbie, that's pretty strange, and I think that's why is not working, u got 2 instances of Apache installed01:09
Fanskapetnalioth can't change from windows totally since i use alot of windows apps :)01:09
Fanskapetdon't wanna exchange windows totally either for that matter :)01:10
naliothFanskapet: wine won't let them limp along?01:10
Fanskapetboth installed is just fine for me :)01:10
linux_newbieah, how do i fix that, fabio?01:10
naliothFanskapet: you havent been able to transition to *nix?01:10
fabiolinux_newbie, via synaptic is the easiest way01:10
Fanskapetyeah that would probably do the trick but i don't find any interest in changing totally to linux really.. there are still things that's need to be worked on before it will serve all my needs01:11
Fanskapetespecially the window managers.01:11
linux_newbiefabio, ok01:11
FanskapetGNOME has most of the features i want but it's really slow as hell..01:11
fabiolinux_newbie, into synaptic type apache and you will see the full list of apache stuff you got on your system, if Apache and Apache2 are installed remove both of them, and follow the guide I gave you01:11
fabiolinux_newbie, from scratch, without any instance of apache would be better...01:12
chillywillyhello ppl why is it complaining about my /boot partition and not being able to run fsck on it? I formatted it with the amd64 installer01:12
naliothFanskapet: i just abhor the filth that windoze attracts online (and the fact that the filth finds windoze easily impressionable)01:12
Fanskapetnalioth what do you mean by that?01:12
absintheosSo, how can I remove Gnome now that I'm using Xfce4. Will it break my sound?01:12
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linux_newbiefabio, thank you01:13
Fanskapetabsintheos why remove it? why not just leave it be and run XFCE instead?01:13
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absintheosI dunno01:13
fabiolinux_newbie, np, yw, what synpatic shows?01:13
chillywillywill this kernel work on amd64: linux-image-2.6.11-1-amd64-xeon ?01:13
naliothFanskapet: i don't like to spend roughly 8-10% of my time in front of a puter, setting and keeping up 'defenses' from virii, trojans and just plain bad code (exploits)01:13
absintheosFanskapet: I hate that it01:13
absintheos's taking up space.01:14
Fanskapetabsintheos, hmm small harddrive? :)01:14
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naliothFanskapet: and i believe that for windoze (l)users, that is about the right amount of time (if not, you probably are loaded with 'guest filth')01:14
absintheosFanskapet: =)01:14
chillywillywth is AMD K8...seems to be the only SMP kernel present in the archive01:14
Fanskapetnalioth hmm.. setting up defenses? if you're behind a firewall then there's no problem regarding trojans... and just install a simple antivirus app and that will solve your problem01:15
fabiolinux_newbie, I must go now! ;)01:15
linux_newbiefabio, i just took a screen shot of what it looked like01:15
Fanskapetand.. not do as all the stupied users that get's infected.. don't open files that you have no idea what it is.01:15
naliothFanskapet: most everyday windoze boxen users, don't know 'simple av', and this is my pet peeve, and i really don't want to get started here01:15
Fanskapethaven't got a trojan or even a virus infection for about.. hmm 6 years or so01:15
fabiolinux_newbie, must go, its too late here ;) catcth you tomm01:15
chillywillywill dual opteron 246's be able to use: linux-image-2.6.11-1-amd64-k8-smp ?01:16
naliothFanskapet: needless to say, i run PPC ubuntu on my two macs (havent owned a windoze box in over 5 years)01:16
Fanskapethmm01:16
Fanskapetwell well..01:16
Fanskapeti prefer having both installed01:16
Fanskapetnalioth, well soon you'l need to switch back to x86 anyway if you want to be able to run OSX :)01:17
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naliothFanskapet: the only use i personally would use windoze for is to convert that fa*$**G wmv9 to something usable01:17
naliothFanskapet: wherever Apple and Jobs takes me, i'm sure it will be pleasant01:17
Fanskapethmm..01:18
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deviantcan somebody help me with installing gst-jpeg2000-1.0.0 pls!!01:18
Moe|Joehi...i need help wit wireless networks...jus install my wifi adapter wit ndiswrapper...now how do i config the wifi adapter to connect to my wireless network?01:18
Fanskapetwell well.. will be nice to be able to run OSX on my laptop someday.. will probably happen even if apple makes it "non compatible" with ordinary x86 machines.. probably just needs some patch that ignores the BIOS version or so01:19
Moe|Joeand need to set it up wit static settings01:19
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naliothdeviant: what is the prob u are having?01:20
naliothFanskapet: apple keeps a close eye on its hardware/software integration. a big reason why "it just works"01:21
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chillywillydpkg: warning, architecture `amd64' not in remapping table <-- sup with that?01:21
Moe|Joecan anyone help01:21
Moe|Joe?01:21
Fanskapetnalioth, yes apple has always used great hardware but at a awfully high price01:21
Fanskapeti was very fond of my PowerMac 7500 when it was new.01:22
Fanskapetbut it cost alot01:22
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naliothFanskapet: i'm using an iBook G3/600 right now (running ubuntu) that runs OSX faster then when it was new01:22
deviantnalioth: i get this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/11601:22
naliothFanskapet: Apple stuff lasts a whole lot longer than pc stuff (and now let the flames begin)01:23
deviantnalioth: iBook rulez. i envy you :)01:23
Fanskapetnalioth depending on what you mean by that01:23
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gekhow do i install a program in a .deb file. i thought it was dpkg -i package.deb but it says "dpkg: need an action option"01:23
naliothFanskapet: to the point of "why is my windoze machine running soooooooo slooooooow?"01:23
nateI need some help with nVidia...anybody have a second?01:23
Fanskapetthe PPC CPU achitecture is better than x86 in general not that much though but a bit.. but it's not apple who produce their CPU01:24
thenukenate: reinstall windows?01:24
naliothgek that should be correct, are you root?01:24
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natelol no I just want to install the 6629 drivers01:24
natebut I don't know how01:24
gekno, i used sudo01:24
deviantnalioth: so what do you think about http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/116 ?01:24
gek"sudo dpkg -i opera-blahblahblah.deb"01:24
Fanskapetnalioth, the main reason why Apple "stuff lasts longer" is that the most of the new games and "stuff" only is ported to x8601:24
naliothdeviant: there was no binary pkg available for it?01:24
deviantnalioth: not that i`ve find off01:25
geki dont think i can tolerate another day of firefox01:25
Fanskapetmy current laptop, Acer Ferrari 3200 will "last" veeeeery long if i don't care about all the newest games.01:25
naliothdeviant: have you tried having apt build it for you?01:25
naliothgek what is the prob?01:25
deviantnalioth: how do i do that ?01:25
nateCan anybody tell me how to install the 6629 drivers?01:25
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deviantnalioth: "gst-jpep2000-1.0.0.x86.package"  <-- binary package ?01:26
likkashotnvidia mobo and ubuntu no good01:26
naliothFanskapet: also, apple 'books, tend not to sterilize males who actually use them on their laps01:26
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naliothdeviant: hang on a minute01:26
deviantnalioth: ok, sure01:26
naliothlikkashot: really?01:26
henry_im a newbie here, if i change my motherboard, CPU, do i need to recompile my kernel?01:26
geki tried it from a root terminal and it worked fine, weird01:26
gekhenry: yes01:27
decaflikkashot: why? I'm planning to buy an nvidia chipset mainboard01:27
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naliothlikkashot: c'mon spill the beans on the nforce boards01:27
decafhenry_: what's your kernel now?01:27
henry_its ...hold on01:27
Fanskapetnalioth, hummz. all new laptops get's warm01:28
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jazzkahi!01:28
henry_decaf its 2.6.1001:28
naliothFanskapet: i can see i've started the vi vs emacs thing01:28
Fanskapetnalioth you can't make them much colder than they are right now since the CPU/GPU get's warm.. it's impossible01:28
naliothFanskapet: to each their own01:28
decafhenry_: 2.6.10-386 ?01:28
henry_yeah01:28
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Fanskapetand it doesn't do me much harm really.. there are things called desks or tables :)01:29
jazzkais there any gmail notifier for ubuntu (gnome) ???01:29
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paxonjazzka, use firefox?01:30
jazzkapaxon, yep01:30
paxonjazzka, find gmail extension.01:30
caonexanybody here has ever used vnc through ssh?01:30
likkashotnalioth , I have a k8n neo4 platinum and for 2 days now I cant get the 2nd network card to work01:30
decafhenry_: 386 means the origin of all 32 bit intel and amd cpu's. you dont need a new kernel. but, I recommend a proper kernel for your new cpu. if it's a P4, install 686 kernel package.01:30
naliothcaonex: yes i do it all the time01:30
jazzkapaxon, ok thanks!01:30
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henry_decaf i just checked again, its 686 :D01:31
naliothdeviant: WHERE did you get that source code?01:32
decafhenry_: 686 means pentium pro or newer01:32
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deviantnalioth: http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/install.html01:32
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naliothdeviant: hang on anothr minim01:33
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chillywilly*sigh*01:33
henry_decaf i currently have a P4 1.2ghz but I like to upgrade to P4 3.2ghz01:33
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decafhenry_: so there isn't any problem. you may want to learn how works 'kernel-package' and compile a kernel spacially for p4 later.01:35
naliothdeviant: you d/l the .tar.gz, right?01:35
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deviantnalioth: yeah01:36
henry_ok thanks decaf :)01:36
decafhenry_: yw01:36
Moe|Joeis there a apt-get search feature?01:36
decafMoe|Joe: yes, try apt-cache01:36
deviantMoe|Joe: apt-cache search01:36
Moe|Joeso01:37
naliothdeviant: were there any configure options?01:37
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naliothMoe|Joe: use synaptic01:37
caonexnalioth, well i am trying to do it but the client never finally opens....but when i kill it, it shows up and tells me something, any ideas?01:37
Moe|Joeaot-cache search <name of program?01:37
nickthedickanyone here use ati?01:37
naliothcaonex: w/o further explainin, no01:37
ilucivwhy would when I go to run a script (filename.sh) with the command [sudo sh filename.sh]  it do nothing and just give me the command prompt agian01:37
sorush20guys i can't write files to some of the folder in my computer just because I'm not the owner.. but I am the owner .. can anyone help this super user problem in Ubuntu is killing me..01:37
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naliothiluciv: when it does nothing, that means it rans successfully01:38
ilucivsorush20: sudo??01:38
deviantnalioth: not that i know off01:38
deviantnalioth: ./configure  --prefix=/usr01:38
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ilucivnalioth: but it is a script for a kernel upgrade meant to download latest kerenl and install01:39
naliothiluciv: read above01:39
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Moe|Joeanyone recommend a decent program to use to search for wireless networks?01:39
chillywillybah....01:40
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ilucivnalioth: sorry you meant ./configure01:41
Fanskapetahh. soon Zeta 1.0 will be released.01:41
Fanskapethope that one will support my Ferrari-racer.01:41
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naliothdeviant: try ./configure --help   <ya might find something interesting01:41
Fanskapetthat will make me happy a while atleast :)01:41
linux_newbiehow do u uninstall programs?01:41
deviantnalioth: i did. and i didn`t :)01:42
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deviantnalioth: all i could come up with was --enable-dependency-tracking01:42
linux_newbiedoes anyone know how to uninstall a program?01:42
naliothdeviant:  --with-libj2k=PREFIX    Compile the libj2k codec plugin, using the libj2k library01:42
naliothlinux_newbie: use synaptic01:42
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linux_newbienalioth, i tryed that, but when i restarted the computer, all the files were still there01:43
gekdoes anyone know a way i can use Opera mail to access either hotmail or gmail or some other free email service?01:43
naliothlinux_newbie: when you click on the proggy next time, select 'mark for total removal'01:43
linux_newbienalioth, i did that01:44
naliothgek: surf to gmail.com?01:44
gekno, i mean the opera mail client01:44
deviantnalioth: and PREFIX means ...what ?01:44
naliothlinux_newbie: then i'm not sure.01:44
linux_newbiei will try agian01:44
decafgek: gmail has 'pop' support, use it. no way for hotmail01:44
naliothdeviant: where the libj2k files/headers are01:44
chillywillybah01:44
gekcool01:44
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sorush20guys in is there anyone using limewire on ubuntu here.. can you let me know.. please01:45
caonexnalioth, well i just did the following command: ssh -L 5900:filma.mine.nu:5900 filma.mine.nu01:45
naliothsorush20: give gtk-gnutella a try01:45
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lukus001what location should a file be at to use "apt-get" on it01:46
decaflukus001: use dpkg directly01:46
lukus001whats that?01:46
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caonexnalioth, me?01:46
decaflukus001: I have to say: RTFM!01:47
deviantnalioth: lol. i have no ideea where that lib is located :P01:47
lukus001RTFM!01:47
lukus001?01:47
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decaflukus001: Read The Fucking Manual01:47
lukus001oh =P01:48
naliothdeviant: well thats what its failing on01:48
flooHi guys. Can anyone tell me how to change my splash screen please?01:48
linux_newbiedoes anyone know how to stop the apache service?01:48
lukus001funny, cause i am... rofl01:48
naliothdecaf: i always thought it was the Fine manual, alas01:48
linux_newbiefloo, i can help you01:48
floothank you newbie01:48
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linux_newbieyou go to System>Administration>Logon Screen Setup01:49
floook01:49
linux_newbiedoes that gelp, floo?01:49
linux_newbie* i mean help01:50
flooit's not my login screen that I want to change it's the splash screen after when x is starting up01:50
floobut thanks anyway01:50
deviantnalioth: shouldn`t be located in /usr/lib/ ?01:50
linux_newbieoh, i am not sure floo01:50
naliothdeviant: if you have it01:50
floonot to worry01:50
naliothdeviant: perhaps you should google it and see if it compiles.. .. .. first01:51
gekanyone have a gmail invite they can send me? [ isnoop no longer works ] 01:51
gekanytime, sooner the better01:51
paxonlinukso, I assume /etc/init.d/apache2 stop ?01:52
floocan anyone else help me change my splash screen? the one that you see when x is starting.  Not my login screen01:52
geknalioth, thanks in advance01:52
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decafgmail gave 50 invitations to all users. so if you want gmail account, send mails to mehmet.kose@gmail.com, remember, gmail has a strong spam filter!01:54
^thehatsrule^lol...01:54
SeamusLPwhat the crap is google doing, just bring it open to the public for christ sakes01:55
^thehatsrule^i think everyone who wants one has one if not a long time ago ;p01:55
paxonfloo, check http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2651301:55
Moe|Joecan anyone recommend a program i can use to config my wireless network01:55
decafSeamusLP: this is the best way for them. gmail will stay beta for years01:55
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SeamusLPdecaf:  Everything that google comes out with stays in perpetual beta.  How very convenient, if something goes wrong, hey, its just a beta!01:56
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glDaherhello, I want to be able to share my internet with a lan01:57
glDahereth0 -> modem     eth1 - > lan01:57
glDaherboth are active and ready01:57
glDaheranyone?01:58
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deviantnalioth: how do i install an .autopackage  ?01:58
^thehatsrule^glDaher, ya you can do that..01:58
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SeamusLPdeviant: ubuntu doesn't come with autopackage by default, its a fairly new thing.  You have to go to the autopackage website and install it.01:59
naliothdeviant: i have no idea what an .autopackage is01:59
deviantoh, i see :(01:59
marcelI need help with APT. With debian, all packages downloaded automatically get stored in /var/cache/apt/archives02:00
SeamusLPPlus I don't think the devs like autopackage, it doesn't exactly integrate with apt02:00
marcelit would seem ubuntu is different...02:00
naliothSeamusLP: is autopackage available in uni or multi do you know?02:00
Adyethsi tried using autopackage... but not all the autopackage things worked for me in ubuntu.02:00
SeamusLPnalioth:  Maybe for breezy, not for hoary02:00
glDaher^thehatsrule^: hmmn, how? o.O what do I need?02:00
^thehatsrule^google :)02:01
glDahergoogle will help in general, but not in ubunu02:01
naliothdeviant: did you find the source for the libj2k?02:01
glDaher:P02:01
^thehatsrule^search for debian02:01
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marcelDoes anyone know what to edit to stop archives being deleted? :S02:01
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ivanoxis it Kingston that got lifetime warranty on the memories?02:02
marcellegend has02:03
ivanoxare u sure kingston hasn't?02:03
marcelNo.02:03
marcelif in doubt, google02:03
ivanoxyeah02:03
deviantnalioth: yes. /usr/local/lib/02:05
ivanox"Lifetime Warranty: The following Kingston products are covered by this warranty for life: memory modules including ValueRAMTM "02:05
deviantnalioth: but gst-jpeg still doesent work02:05
bigfoot1hello everyone. I'm having a hardtime seeing some links on a number of Blog websites. For example, on http://adrian.warnock.info/. The webmaster of that site said that the problem may be taken care of by just enabling popups and by enabling Javascript. Well, I have done both and still the links are invisible. ANd to even further, I started firefox with a new profile, and still the same problem. I have posted a screenshot of how the webpage l02:05
bigfoot1ooks on my end at http://img239.echo.cx/img239/2041/screenshot8al.png02:05
ivanoxmy module is valueram so Im lucky :)02:05
decafwhen it gets kaput, kingston will say "it's dead, lifetime warranty is over"02:05
naliothdeviant: same error?02:05
bigfoot1 if someone can help me, i'd be moste appreciative.02:05
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deviantnalioth: make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/deviant/Desktop/gst-jpeg2000-1.0.0/src'02:05
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ivanoxhehehe ;)02:06
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gekbigfoot1: my advice, try opera02:07
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zythyay NWN works02:07
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naliothbigfoot1: why use a page that isnt universally acceptable?02:08
bigfoot1gek, i used opera before. it's nice, but i don't like the banner/wasted space.02:08
bigfoot1nalioth, are you sure that that is the problem?02:08
sorush20guys why isn't a clean cut file structure like the My Documents forlder in windows in the Ubuntu for each user...02:08
bigfoot1I thought the problem was just with me somehow, nalioth .02:08
naliothbigfoot1: ANY browser should render ANY page (thats where IE causes such trouble)02:09
ilucivis there a irc room pertaining to linux scripts02:09
zythsorush20, um.. /home/user ... ?02:09
jdesorush20: Because this isn't MS-Windows.02:09
robotgeeknalioth: :)02:09
bigfoot1nalioth, do you use firefox?02:09
bigfoot1that's the browser i'm using to view these pages.02:10
naliothbigfoot1: no i do not, i find it slow and <rant rant rant>02:10
geksorush20: thats what /home is for02:10
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naliothbigfoot1:  i use galeon as my personal choice of browser02:10
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sorush20jde, yes but to a new be to linux it just seems really inconsiderate  of the ubuntu builders..02:10
naliothsorush20: any unix like system is the same. all of YOUR stuff is in YOUR home directory02:11
eggnalioth:  bad looking02:11
bigfoot1do you have firefox on your system? can you check out the page to see if it's a firefox-specific problem?02:11
jdesorush20: Take it up with the suggestion box.02:11
gek"mkdir /home/sorush/documents"02:11
naliothegg: as mentioned, personal preference (i close my eyes while surfing)02:11
sorush20I know how to make a directory..02:11
eggnalioth:  ummm ^_^02:11
D1tried FC4....went straight back to ubuntu!02:11
eggnalioth: like me02:12
sorush20howmany of you have all your doc, music files, video files, and all other files just in the home directory..02:12
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naliothbigfoot1: ok wait on02:12
robotgeeksorush20: count me in02:12
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sorush20and not any subdirectorie..02:12
sorush20robotgeek, how do you mean..02:12
jdesorush20: I've got my music and videos on my server.02:12
robotgeekfind ~/ -name | grep <whatever>02:12
sorush20do you have it in the same folder..02:13
sorush20?02:13
robotgeeksorush20: why not?02:13
jdeAs for documents I've  got it under my home directories heirarchy.02:13
sorush20jde, do you have it in the same folder..02:13
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robotgeeki just make folders and throw it in02:13
naliothbigfoot1: what exactly is your browser not seeing, mine shows words, pix all kinda crap02:13
Garbanzodoes anyone know how to get xpde on ubuntoo02:13
jdesorush20: No.02:14
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naliothGarbanzo: xpd<what>?02:14
xiaogilis there a command like ls that gives a number for each file listed, from 1 to x, or that tells how many files there is in a directory ?02:14
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jdesorush20: By the way nautilus comes with a documents icon, try looking that up.02:15
vinuxI got some splashscreens for grub. Can someone help me configure one?02:16
sorush20Document's Icon.. do you mean an emblem.02:16
decafxiaogil: do it yourself:  "ls -1 | wc -l" for example02:16
robotgeekls -l | grep --count ""02:17
sorush20not me I don't know anything about grub..02:17
sorush20maybe you could go to a grub channel..02:17
Cooner750when I get gparted installed can someone help me with it?02:17
sorush20if there is one that is..02:17
johnnnyhow can i move a file from desktop to aother folder?02:17
bigfoot1nalioth, what my browser is not seeing:  http://img239.echo.cx/img239/2041/screenshot8al.png02:18
Randallubuntu install failes at timezone what can I do to get past it02:18
gekjohnnny, use nautilus and drag and drop it to where you want it02:18
decafCooner750: you can't use it on a mounted directory. use runfromCD distros like knoppix02:18
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xiaogildecaf: thanks!02:19
gekor go to a terminal and type "mv ~/Desktop/file /destination02:19
gek"02:19
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linux_newbiewhen i do a complete uninstall of a program ,some of the files don't delete, is that ok?02:19
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Cooner750decaf: I'm using a livecd. Cant I just unmount the external drive and then resize and make a partition?02:19
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decaflinux_newbie: use '--purge'  for removing configuration files02:20
Cooner750I see that the reason I can resize the NTFS internal drive is because it did not mount02:20
sorush20guys what calendar program would you recommend for Ubuntu02:20
Cooner750i'll be back soon. getting something to eat02:20
Randallanyone know why?02:21
linux_newbiehow do i get to purge decaf??02:21
deviantnalioth: may i ask you something: how come ur using ubuntu on apple hardware, in stead of osx, which is far better than ubuntu in all imaginable ways ?02:21
bartekpRandall: sudo tzconfig02:21
decaflinux_newbie: apt-get --purge remove <package-name>02:22
Randallberniv6, so just load the shell02:22
Randallbecuse its failing at the install02:22
robotgeekdeviant: i am using linux on my powerbook too02:22
deviantrobotgeek: ermmm. why is that ?02:22
robotgeekdeviant: better is a subjective term...openoffice sucks on osx02:23
bigfoot1hi all, does w3m text browser have javascript support?02:24
Randallbartekp, I ment02:24
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Cooner750Ok. I can resize the external drive when I unmount it. But could someone explain the logic of resizing?02:25
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robotgeekdamn...need to quit once02:25
Cooner750Like;.. nevermind. hard to explain02:25
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Cooner750there is 18,965MB used and 95,506 free. How could I resize this?02:26
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Cooner750Ok. I just resized down to leave a 5GB partition in ext3 format02:28
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Cooner750so should I apply 2 things:02:29
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Cooner7501. Resize /dev/sda1/ from 114,471 to 108,97602:29
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Cooner750and 2. create primary partition #2 (ext3, 5,495)02:30
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Cooner750is that correct?02:30
Cooner750someone please help02:30
gekresizing, you must be brave02:30
xiaogilHow to do so that each time i type ln, it executes ls | nl ?02:30
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gekcooner: sounds right02:31
sorush20guys anyone know a good radio program to download...02:31
geki would be too afraid of loosing data though02:31
bartekpxiaogil: alias ls='ls | nl'02:31
Cooner750unfortunatly that drive has my music collection on it. I'm just a paranoid person02:31
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shabazmohey guys a question :)02:32
Cooner750is 5GB enough for ubuntu?02:32
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Cooner750in ext3 format02:32
bartekpCooner750: yes02:32
decafCooner750: yes02:32
shabazmoto log inj as root from the log in screen I do what now after the login screen setup02:32
naliothxiaogil: make an alias in your .bashrc file02:32
xiaogilbartekp: in which file is it saved, so that i can change it if needed ?02:32
xiaogilok02:32
parabolizeshabazmo: just use sudo02:32
bartekpxiaogil: no one, you can add it to your .bash_profile02:33
Cooner750how do I take a snapshot of the gparted window?02:33
shabazmoI dont want to just use sudo :)02:33
eyequeuehow do i go about re-enabling alt-ctrl-f1 in gnome?  some sort of keymap issue? (breezy)02:33
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shabazmoI would like to be able to log in as roo t:)02:33
decafCooner750: use gimp02:33
geksorush: "Music Player" in sound & video menu works with net radio stations02:33
xiaogilbartekp, nalioth: is it .bashrc or .bash_profile that i should change ?02:33
gekxmms is another option if you like the winamp style02:33
parabolizeshabazmo: If you are tired of typing "sudo" all the time, switch to root user by issuing "sudo -s -H" followed by user password02:34
bartekpxiaogil: imho better is .bash_profile02:34
shabazmoyes but I would like to be able to log in as root :)02:34
Cooner750how do I use gimp to take a snapshot?02:34
shabazmoas it says in ubuntuguide.org02:34
eyequeueshabazmo:  applications > system tools > root terminal02:34
bigfoot1aside from firefox, is there another browser that is pre-installed?02:34
shabazmobut I dont have the root username for somereason02:34
decafCooner750: 'acquire' at menu02:34
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shabazmoagain Log in as root02:35
shabazmolike at the gnome log in screen02:35
eyequeueshabazmo:  root is disabled in ubuntu, a security design feature02:35
shabazmoand cant you re-enable it is the login screen setup?02:35
shabazmolike it says02:35
shabazmoin the security tab02:35
eyequeueshabazmo:  that is gnome, not ubuntu02:36
shabazmoah02:36
shabazmoI see02:36
eyequeueshabazmo:  that tab is for gdm options02:36
shabazmoyes02:36
gekyou should never run gnome/x as root02:36
shabazmoyes it is02:36
geknever ever02:36
gekever02:36
shabazmoam I asking what I should do02:36
shabazmono just help on doing something which I see is impossible now02:36
shabazmo:(02:36
eyequeueshabazmo:  ubuntu disables root all over the system, not just in a gui, this is for your own protection02:36
gekyou dont have to, my opinion comes free02:36
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ivanoxanyone here tried wormux?02:37
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eyequeueshabazmo:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:38
chillywillyyaaaay02:38
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ivanoxsup ?02:38
cthulfuegosky ?02:38
eyequeuehow do i go about re-enabling alt-ctrl-f1(or f2-6) in gnome?  some sort of keymap issue? (breezy)02:38
chillywillyI reinstalled and this time I deleted and recreated all paritions so that Ubuntu made the partitions and then no more complaints about ext3 attributes not supported and all that crap02:38
bigfoot1how do we do a hard reload in firefox?02:38
bartekpcthulfuego: hi spammer d-;02:39
chillywillyinstalling smp kernel now02:39
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cthulfuegobartekp: shift-reload ?02:39
eyequeuebigfoot1:  are you asking for ctrl r02:39
Cooner750brb. imageshack keeps saying that the filetype is not accepted02:39
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bigfoot1eyequeue, i think so. thank you. ctrl r will fetch the page from the website right, and not from our cache, right+02:40
bigfoot1?02:40
eyequeuebigfoot1:  right02:40
bigfoot1theanks02:40
bartekpcthulfuego: i don't understand you, sorry my english is poor \;02:40
cthulfuegobigfoot1: if you hold down shift, it won't re-use the cache for any of the leemnts on the page.02:40
cthulfuegos/leements/elements/02:40
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bigfoot1what's the difference betwen shift+ctrl+r and ctrl+r?02:41
cthulfuegobigfoot1: cache usage02:41
geki'd be interested to find out how many people here speak english as a second language02:42
bartekpgek: I02:42
geki bet quite a few02:42
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housetiersurvey time02:42
housetiereye speeka de lengueedge02:42
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gekunfortunately english is the only language i speak fluently02:43
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cthulfuegoonly *you* can change that! ;-)02:43
geklearning human languages is _hard_ when you arnt brought up with them - i know some broken french, dutch, and a very little german02:44
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=== cthulfuego knows dutch, german and english and can communicate to some degree in french.
gekhere where i live (ontario) its hard to find language lessons/tutors for anything other than french02:45
cthulfuegoThe latin is just gone.02:45
housetierI know German, English, and Violence02:45
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ilucivugh02:45
decafeuropean languages comes from same origin. it's not so hard for german people to learn english or dutch02:45
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cthulfuegodecaf: You'd be amazed02:46
naliothbigfoot1: dja get sorted?02:46
bigfoot1does ubuntu come with any other browser aside from firefox and w3m?02:46
gekso far of the languages i have tried to learn, dutch is the easiest and the most fun02:46
anto9ushmm.. I don't think they're all latin based decaf02:46
bigfoot1nalioth, unfortunately not. 8-(02:46
naliothbigfoot1: does it do the same thing in galeon or epiphany?02:46
sorush20guys my video is jumpy when I try to play a dvd player .. can anyone help please..02:46
decafcthulfuego: and I have no idea what you mean. with my poor english :)02:46
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cthulfuegogek: Ha, dat zeggen ze allemaal, maar er is niks, van waar!02:47
eyequeuedecaf:  some of us don't have the same brain as childhood02:47
naliothsorush20: enable DMA?02:47
bartekpdecaf: polish is worse to learen than english or dutch02:47
ilucivcan anyone help or point me to help on linux scripting02:47
holycowsorush20, yeah google for what nalioth and goog hdparm, that should fix it02:47
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decafbartekp: you should take a look at turkish and see how different it is02:47
eyequeuedecaf:  there can be no language learning for me from here forward02:48
bartekpdecaf: but Poland is near Germany, it is central Europe02:48
bigfoot1nalioth, i don't have galeon or epiphany.02:48
bigfoot1do i?02:48
eyequeuebigfoot1:  apt-get install lynx02:49
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eyequeuebigfoot1: with ubuntu,  you decide what apps you prefer02:49
naliothbigfoot1: easy to fix, "sudp apt-get install galeon epiphany kazehakaze"02:49
naliothcrap02:49
naliothbigfoot1: easy to fix, "sudo apt-get install galeon epiphany kazehakaze"02:49
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gekcthulfuego, i got most of that; rough translation = "everyone says that, but there isnt anything .....?"02:50
gekmy dutch is "neit goede"02:51
we2byit is "niet"02:52
geknot02:52
bigfoot1eyequeue, can lynx read javascript stuff?02:52
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geki cant spell in english either02:52
eyequeuebigfoot1: fortunately not02:52
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linux_newbieI uninstalled Apache web server, but i can still access the page on localhost02:53
linux_newbiewhat did i do wrong?02:53
housetierclose your browser02:53
linux_newbiei did02:53
eyequeuebigfoot1: though links links2 or elinks allegedly can (you'd have to experiment yourself, i don't use those)02:53
linux_newbiei restarted i02:53
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linux_newbieit02:53
eyequeuelinux_newbie:  telnet localhost 8002:54
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bigfoot1nalioth, what do you mean "easy to fix"? u referring to my problem?02:54
cthulfuegogek: "That's what they all say, but it's all lies!"02:54
naliothbigfoot1: you can google "links twibright labs" and at twibright labs website d/l the src for a links that will use javascript AND show graphics02:54
linux_newbieeyequeue, what do u mean?02:54
bigfoot1what's kazehakaze?02:54
naliothbigfoot1: yes, galeon, epiphany and kazehakaze are 3 other browsers02:54
eyequeuelinux_newbie:  telnet localhost 80 <- rn that command02:54
linux_newbieoh02:54
linux_newbieok02:54
eyequeuelinux_newbie:  connection refused?02:55
linux_newbieyea, connection refused02:55
eyequeuelinux_newbie:  apache is gone then02:55
sorush20nalioth, how the hell do i set dma permanently on the DVD player.. so that it playes DVDs the right way all the time..02:55
linux_newbiereally? then why is that page still showing?02:56
eyequeuelinux_newbie: clear your browser's cache and it will agree02:56
linux_newbielet me do that.....02:56
Jesse1is there any memory editors for ubuntu? i googled but didnt find any02:56
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fazerHello02:56
bigfoot1nalioth, when you say "easy to fix", do you mean that i can fix my firefox problem by using another browser?02:56
fazerHas anyone here installed php in Ubuntu?02:56
cthulfuegoJesse1: vim /proc/kcore ;-)02:56
ivanoxwhat is the site with lots of gnome apps?02:57
fazerI apt-get'ed php and php-cli but when I execute a php script from the command line it just prints out the html source code.02:57
naliothbigfoot1: try them, they are FREE02:57
cthulfuegofazer: Does your code start with <?php  ?02:57
naliothsorush20: i'm not sure how to do that02:57
bigfoot1nalioth, please answer my question about what you mean by "easy to fix"02:57
bigfoot1.02:57
bigfoot18)02:57
linux_newbieeyequeue, when i type http://localhost in the broswer, it says connection refused02:58
fazercthulfuego: ofcourse.02:58
naliothbigfoot1: i (and a lot of other users find firefox to be not a good browser <opinions i've seen in here>)02:58
linux_newbieso does that mean apache is gone?02:58
sorush20there you go again.. this is why Linux and Ubuntu are all shit..02:58
naliothbigfoot1: you have a choice of over 10 browsers for linux02:58
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eyequeuelinux_newbie:  right02:58
linux_newbiethank u02:58
naliothbigfoot1: why use one that doesnt render properly?02:58
fazeroh shit02:58
cthulfuegofazer: You'd be amazed ;-) How are you running the script?02:58
fazerno wonder02:58
{4XsampleHy people02:58
eyequeuelinux_newbie:  there are no listeners (such as apache) on port 80, the http port02:59
fazercthulfuego: haha, i am idiot, my php source code is php code but all formatted in HTML!  hahah I am soo lame =(02:59
naliothsorush20: are you referring to my ignorance?02:59
sorush20this about it.. I mean I just want to play a god damn DVD, I don't want to know anything else .. its just stupid..02:59
sorush20no..02:59
sorush20nalioth no..02:59
cthulfuego<heh>02:59
cthulfuegofazer: Traditionally we do that the other way around ;-)02:59
naliothsorush20: i have knowledge about lots of things, but not DMA02:59
cthulfuego!dma02:59
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cthulfuegoStupid long factoids :-P03:00
sorush20nalioth, i didn't mean to upset you you misunderstood..03:00
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naliothsorush20: it is unfortunate that nobody is here atm, that can answer your question03:00
fazerchillywilly: Aye =/03:01
xiaogilIs there an option in wget to prevent the download of a file that already exists in the current directory ?03:01
djjasonhas anyone heard of this problem I am having on my laptop running hoary, after some X amount of time running on battery (this never happens when on AC) the computer freezes...so completly that I have to shut it down....usually this happens when I am using the touchpad03:01
egghi,I am back ^^03:01
naliothsorush20: linux is for 'tweakers'. people who like to tinker with their OS03:01
fazerhmm, how would I go about recovering a deleted file in Linux?03:01
naliothxiaogil: "man wget" or "wget --help" will tell you -nc will enable "no clobber"03:01
naliothfazer: you are screwed03:01
sorush20yea..03:01
sorush20I know.. I'll get there..03:01
sorush20one day...03:01
synd_nalioth: yo03:02
naliothsynd_: HO!03:02
egg?03:02
{4XsampleI need urgent help please my server crashed completely and I need to reinstall I had an old debian potato installed upgraded to woody but when I upgraded to sarge crashed everithing so I need to install something to run the fucking web server  I tried all the new linux distros I had time to download, debian, suse, ubuntu, even with livecds like knoppix, audiator, etc. and all of them crash during the install03:02
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anto9usdjjason: acpi standby locks my laptop up since I installed the fglrx driver03:02
fazernalioth: thanks03:02
Epixhow do i get a desktop in wine??03:02
{4Xsamplemaybe the hardware is a bit old PII 50003:02
cthulfuegoEpix: 'wine explorer.exe'03:03
paxonhow do you launch thunderbird from console?03:03
naliothfazer: please think before deleting stuff03:03
fazernalioth: I was just wondering03:03
fazerI deleted an unimportant file03:03
synd_nalioth: whats that link that talks about mac os and how apple isnt stupid and its just to get hackers to run mac os on x86's03:04
{4Xsamplewith ubuntu the last line on screen is isapnp: No plug & Play device found03:04
{4Xsamplesmebody can help me?03:04
djjasonanto9us: really.....I recently also installed fglrx03:04
naliothfazer: cuz unlike windoze, in linux, when its deleted, its really gone (unless you want to spend a few grand)03:04
holycownalioth, rofl03:04
holycowtell me about it03:04
holycowheh03:04
Epixcthulfuego, uh, cannot find explorer.exe03:04
cthulfuegoEpix: Then you can't.03:04
Epixcthulfuego, can i get explorer.exe somehow?03:05
holycowand deleting a large number of small files can be incredibly "efficient"03:05
naliothEpix: what are you trying to do?03:05
holycowthere are times when you don't want a delete to be efficient03:05
cthulfuegoEpix: Yes, but I severely doubt it would run without Internet Explorer, IIS and Media Player integrated into it ;-)03:05
holycow>_>03:05
holycowbbiab watchin moobies03:05
djjasonanto9us: have you solved the problem by removing it or?03:05
naliothholycow: deleting the entire system is 'efficient' also    :P03:05
anto9usdjjason: your touchpad may not be queried by acpi properly and you system goes into standby, thus locking it03:05
egg<_>03:05
anto9usdjjason: no, I disabled standby03:05
{4Xsamplenobody knows where I can find someting can helpme to find a solution?03:06
{4XsampleI tried everithing03:06
djjasonanto9us: how would I go about fixing that...do you know?03:06
anto9usdjjason: at 1920x1200 resolutions the binary drivers make a big difference, it was a trade off03:06
gekincluding upsidedown questionmarks?03:06
djjasonanto9us: I see..03:07
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anto9usdjjason: I'm hear that acpi standby/suspend won't work with the binary drivers03:07
cthulfuego{4Xsample: Check the RF1 through F8 jelp screens at bootup and see if/how to disable isapnp at bootup.03:07
fazernalioth: ah, yeah, i know, i guess that has its pros and cons03:07
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Adrossis there any gui for editing video files which would allow me to alter to starting time of the audio03:08
Adross?03:08
cthulfuegoAdross: cinellera03:08
djjasonanto9us: well I aint using the driver now its just installed03:08
anto9usAdross: Videolan player can offset sound and stream output to a file03:08
{4Xsamplethanks cthulfuego03:08
Cooner750does this look good?: http://www.riccbhard.bravehost.com/gparted2.gif03:09
Adrossthanks03:09
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Cooner750brb. again :/03:09
Adrossbye03:09
{4Xsamplebut I think I tried this option03:09
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sandrush.org03:09
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anto9usdjjason: xorg isn't configured for it?03:09
cthulfuegooohheeer03:10
linux_dudedoes anyone know a good guide for setting up apache php and mysql?03:10
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cthulfuegoapt-get install apache2 mysql-server libapache2-mod-php4 php4-mysql03:10
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djjasonanto9us: no I dont think so03:11
linux_dudedo u know a guide that explains it?03:11
linux_dude(apache, php,mysql)03:11
cthulfuegolinux_dude: apache comes with docs, but you shouldn't need to do anything after running that commandline.03:11
linux_dudebut what about configuring php and mysql??03:12
siimohi anyone know how to fix this issue : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2723303:12
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cthulfuegolinux_dude: the mysqls erver comes with docs, php won't need any configuring.03:12
siimoi tried reinstalling ubuntu too03:12
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anto9usdjjason: 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep fglrx' will tell you03:13
cthulfuegolinux_dude: It's not that hard to do. Just check the files in /usr/share/doc/apache2 and /usr/share/doc/mysql-server03:13
anto9usdjjason: if not configured then that command will return nothing03:13
djjasonanto9us: yeah ...nothing03:14
siimothis is the reason i might go back to warty03:14
anto9usdjjason: does it happen when your machine is left idle too or just when using touchpad?03:15
Epixnalioth, what am i trying to do? run some stuff with wine :)03:16
siimocan someone tell me how to download a source deb patch it and recompile03:16
djjasonanto9us: it only happens when I am on battery.....and It happens while I am working on it......all of a sudden it freezes completle...the hdd lights it lid constantly and I have to brutaly shut it down03:17
naliothEpix: be careful you dont kill (as in kill -9) your linux doin that03:17
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gteppelMy ISP is connected to eth0, while I have a static ip set for eth1. In /etc/init.d/dhcp I changed the default interface from eth0 to eth1. However when dhcp starts on bootup it complains about there being no subnet declaration for eth0. Why isn't it starting on the right interface??03:17
anto9usdjjason: I'd say that acpi would be an obvious culprit03:17
anto9usdjjason: do you have any other battery monitor tools installed?03:20
djjasonanto9us: nope....nothing extra03:20
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{4Xsamplecthulfuego: I cant find an option to prevent load isapnp in the instalation boot03:22
anto9usdjjason: what's the make and model of your laptop?03:22
{4XsampleI disabled the pnp on the bios and the problem still here03:22
djjasonanto9us: Compaq X100003:22
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sonhi03:27
shanonHow do I blank a re-writable disc in ubuntu ?03:27
shanonHow do I blank a re-writable disc in ubuntu ?03:27
shanonoops03:27
soni dunno03:28
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sonanyone want to play a network game of Gnibbles?03:28
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sonanyone want to play a network game of Gnibbles?03:29
LinuxJonesshanon, you can install some cd burning software like graveman03:29
LinuxJonesshanon, or you can do from a command line03:29
LinuxJonesshanon, gui's are nice tho :)03:30
sonanyone want to play a network game of Gnibbles?03:30
AdyethsGnomeBaker is a nice gui for cd burning. (and blanking. heh.)03:30
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shanonLinuxJones: I would normally use cdrecord but for some reason ubuntu doesn't use the same settings for my burner as gentoo does (same system)03:30
shanonBurning from the file browser works but no blanking03:30
sonone last time, does ANYONE want to play a network game of Gnibbles?03:31
LinuxJonesshanon, graveman should auto-detect your burner it has an auto-detector upon first startup03:31
shanonLinuxJones: hmmmm. I will have a look at it thanks03:31
LinuxJonesson, I guess ur out of luck :)03:31
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LinuxJonesheh03:32
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^shakawhy does my mouse moves up and down on my screen?03:33
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sproingieargh.  why does flash not install on 32 bit firefox...03:34
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LinuxJonessproingie, your running a 64 machine ?03:35
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peterk<-SUPER NEWBIE to linux, i installed ubuntu as my intro. Anything i should know?03:36
sproingieLinuxJones: yes03:36
LinuxJonespeterk, www.ubuntuguide.org is a good place to start :)03:36
LinuxJonessproingie, afaik flash doesn't work on 64 bit architectures03:36
toresbeLinuxJones: does too03:37
sproingieLinuxJones: i just mentioned this was a 32 bit firefox03:37
shanongraveman doesn't detect the device. Gnomebaker works nicely though. Thanks03:37
LinuxJonessproingie, Are you runnign in 64 bit or 32 bit mode ?03:38
LinuxJonesshanon, I am glad something works for you !!03:38
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kbrooksi want to uwe user mode linux03:40
kbrooksuse*03:40
kbrookson ubuntu03:40
kbrooksa howto for this?03:40
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decafkbrooks: you don't need anything special03:41
peterkthanks LJ.03:41
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LinuxJonespeterk, what are you trying to send me ?03:41
kbrooksdecaf, i know, but when i try to install user-mode-linux, it simply won't work03:41
LinuxJonespeterk, I don't accept dcc from anybody03:41
peterknot sure what i'm doing03:42
peterk:)03:42
LinuxJonesheh :)03:42
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kbrooksdcc is teh sux0r03:42
bigfoot1how can i find a channel in the IRC world based on region/country?03:42
LinuxJoneskbrooks, what's user mode Linux again ?03:42
ictylhow do i adjust the gamma for a radeon 7500?03:43
kbrooksLinuxJones, google it.....03:43
LinuxJoneskbrooks, it's like SE Linux or something ?03:43
vinuxwoot I installed ubuntu again for practice hehe. I tried a server install but couldn't get the x window system running. My plan was to start off with very little and build up to what I wanted. I didn't know enough though03:43
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LinuxJonesvinux, apt-get insta;; ubuntu-desktop03:44
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LinuxJonesvinux, err apt-get install ubuntu-desktop03:44
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vinuxLinuxJones, that's it? lol ack just one line and I could have done it03:44
kbrooksLinuxJones, no03:44
LinuxJoneskbrooks, ?03:45
kbrooksLinuxJones, i said google it03:45
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LinuxJoneskbrooks, well it's not that important to me, was just asking for a refresher :(03:45
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kbrooksLinuxJones, well03:46
kbrooksh/o03:46
vinuxLinuxJones, so you think if I did server install then installed ubuntu-desktop would make any difference? or would it just be the same as now03:46
LinuxJoneskbrooks, never mind03:46
kbrookshttp://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/03:46
greenhornzQuestion: Apache2, PHP, PHP_Postgres, Postgresql installed - keep getting the following error: Fatal error: Call to undefined function: pg_pconnect()03:46
LinuxJonesvinux, ubuntu-desktop will install gnome and all of xorg03:46
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kbrooksLinuxJones,03:48
kbrookshttp://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/03:48
ivanoxwhat is that site with alot of gnome apps?03:48
LinuxJonesivanox, do you have the universe repositories enabled ?03:49
linux_dudecan someone help me?03:49
ivanoxI'm not talking about repos, there is a site where u can browse alot of apps for gnome03:49
ivanoxbut I forgot the url03:49
linux_dudecan someone please better define this for me: You may want your current user to be the PHP pages administrator. To do so, edit the Apache configuration file :03:50
linux_dude$ sudo vim /etc/apache2/apache2.conf03:50
linux_dudeSearch both the strings starting by "User" and "Group", and change the names by the current username and groupname you are using. Then you'll need to restart Apache."03:50
vinuxI really love my ubuntu! It works! It's fast, stable and easy to use. I like it better then even Slackware!03:51
ivanoxlinux_dude, you should edit your apache2.conf and add your current user somewhere in there03:52
gekhow do i find out my system resources (ie memory used, disk and network read/writes, etc)... i know uptime tells me average load but it seems pretty meaningless03:52
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linux_dudethank u, ivanox03:53
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gekubuntu is lightyears ahead of slackware03:53
gekat least in terms of usablility03:54
toresbehahaha03:55
toresbeI'd say ubuntu is lightyears ahead of slackware, period03:55
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gekanyone here use skype? i just downloaded it, i dont have a mic yet, but what i want to know is do i need to by a certain brand of mic, and when i get it is there anything i need to do to configure it?03:56
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anto9usgek: a decent quality headset might be the best option for telephony applications03:57
nezasup everyone03:57
LinuxJonesgek, search the wiki there is a skype howto03:57
gekcool03:57
omniscientcould someone please point me somewhere i can find information on creating apt-gettable (.deb in ubuntu aswell?) packages from a source tarball?03:57
nezaanyone know what program to use to emulate ISO movie files as dvds03:58
omniscientneza i think you dont need 3rd party03:58
nezaraeally03:58
omniscientyes. but thats all the info i can give you, as i've forgotten what command to use :)03:58
nezalol, ok thanx03:59
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omniscientill tell you though search for "linux equivelents" on google03:59
omniscientfind this page that is a table of windows -> linux programs03:59
nezathanks for the info03:59
omniscientand they have an equivelent for daemon tools03:59
omniscientwhich is the command you can use :)03:59
omniscientso now can you help me? heh.04:00
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char1iecha1kcan anyone help with smp?04:00
nezai would really like to help you out, but im kind of new to this and im not that advanced04:00
omniscienthehe it's all good mate :)04:01
omniscienti was half joking :P04:01
nezak04:01
delilahhmm04:01
gekhmm... the skype howto dosnt say anything about how to configure a mic, where in /dev it will be (it mentions dsp, but thats the audio out isnt it?)04:01
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nezahave you ver tried any video editting tools in linux04:01
anto9usomniscient: are you sure your package isn't already in the repositories?04:01
omniscientanto9us, nah, it isn't04:01
delilahhmm04:02
LinuxJonesgek, is your sound playback working ok ?04:02
omniscientdelilah, you're a thinker aren't ya04:02
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char1iecha1ki get this message nr_cpus limit of 1 reached processor ignored04:03
omniscientanto9us, even if i can just make a deb package or something, so i can distribute the package that way04:03
char1iecha1kpresumablby imrunning on 1 cpu at the mo how do i enable the other one04:03
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LinuxJoneschar1iecha1k, your running the smp kernel ?04:03
omniscientI'll just keep googling, you never know your luck :)04:04
char1iecha1kLinuxJones i didnt do anything special on install04:04
char1iecha1kso probably not04:04
anto9usomniscient: I think the main package creation stuff goes on here https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MOTU04:04
char1iecha1kLinuxJones is the smp kernel on the install cd?04:04
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LinuxJoneschar1iecha1k, are you running amd or intel ?04:04
drwormhey all04:04
char1iecha1kintel piii i think04:05
omniscientthanks alot anto9us.. looks good!04:05
drwormcan't get root in hoary04:05
drwormsu or sudo doesn't work04:05
char1iecha1kLinuxJones yup they are p3 45004:05
r0bnyccan I enable the lines of hoary universe ? and how about the hoary-security universe lines ? i just got my ubuntu hoary cds and installed it. how about how do I update to breezy ?04:05
drwormthey ask for a password i never created04:05
LinuxJoneschar1iecha1k, ok open a terminal; type sudo -s (enter your user password); apt-get update && apt-get install linux-image-686-smp04:06
nezawhen is breezy set to be realised04:06
naliothr0bnyc: breezy will give you plenty to do (esp when the X goes away)04:06
nezareleased?04:06
geklinuxjones, yeah sound playback works fine04:06
LinuxJonesneza, October04:06
cthulfuegoneza: October or november I think04:06
nezacool04:06
r0bnycnalioth: thanks how about my other questions?04:06
char1iecha1kLinuxJones ah thats going to be a problem the04:06
cthulfuegoneza: it's still too unstable to run as a normal desktop atm.04:06
naliothneza: october this year04:07
greenhornzQuestion: how do i get the basic C compiler?04:07
nezayeah, i figureed04:07
anto9usr0bby: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto04:07
char1iecha1kLinuxJones ...oops... our dhcp has gone funny and i can only get this pc on at the mo04:07
cthulfuego!breezy is <reply> Breezy is due for release in October 200504:07
ubotuokay, cthulfuego04:07
nalioth!Restricted04:07
ubotusomebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats04:07
LinuxJonesgek, ok right click the voleume control an click Open Volume Control, then hit the capture tab and turn up the mic volume04:07
naliothr0bnyc: what ubotu said04:07
gekgreen: search for gcc in synaptic04:07
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greenhornzQuestion: how do i get the basic C compiler?04:07
drwormactually, the sudo -s worked!04:07
drwormthanks04:07
nezabut at least thr current version of ubuntu is better than running the stable version of debian04:07
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greenhornzgekL thx04:07
cthulfuego!info linux-image-686-smp04:07
ubotulinux-image-686-smp: (Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.10-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB04:07
r0bnycnalioth: enableing hoary universe and hoary-security universe lines?04:08
gekor apt-get install gcc04:08
LinuxJoneschar1iecha1k, once you get that package installed all you have to do is re-boot and you will have smp support04:08
anto9us^r0bnyc: sorry04:08
char1iecha1kLinuxJones can i reinstall ubuntu with the correct smp kernel? then later i can sort out my dhcp04:08
aboodhi all, guys i need some support with the vsftpd04:08
naliothr0bnyc: once you are in the file, you can univers the world04:08
r0bnycanto9us: what u mean04:08
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cthulfuegochar1iecha1k: You don't have to reinstall. Just update the kernel.04:08
aboodany body have an experince with it ?04:08
naliothr0bnyc: recommend you multiverse it, too04:08
LinuxJoneschar1iecha1k, you don't have to re-install04:08
r0bnycnalioth: universe the world ?04:08
char1iecha1kLinuxJones i cant get on the net with the pc in question04:08
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naliothr0bnyc: add the universe and multiverse repos to your lines04:08
r0bnycah nalioth thanks04:09
naliothr0bnyc: and enjoy many more toyz04:09
cthulfuegochar1iecha1k: You can download the kernel deb and copy it across via a cdrw or something.04:09
r0bnycnalioth: :-D04:09
LinuxJoneschar1iecha1k, is it a wireless network card or something or jsut dhcp problems with the server ?04:09
r0bnycnalioth: and security ?04:09
aboodheloooow any one would help with ftp ?04:10
abood:)04:10
char1iecha1kLinuxJones long story the wireless is working wired isnt, and i havent installed any wireless deices in the ubuntu box04:10
naliothr0bnyc: security lines need not be touched04:10
aboodSeveas, r u there ?04:10
r0bnycnalioth: why not , hoary is released already04:10
naliothr0bnyc: ok, i meant, don't add universe and multiverse to the security lines04:10
r0bnycnalioth: i knw :)04:11
LinuxJoneschar1iecha1k, ok jsut checking, you can take cthulfuego's suffestion and download in windows or whatever and install from a burned cd (which would be easiest)04:11
char1iecha1kLinuxJones can you show me where to get it please04:11
LinuxJonesokg I am getting loaded an typing is lame sorry char1iecha1k :(04:11
LinuxJones*omg04:11
r0bnycall of u runnin hoary? not breezy?04:11
naliothr0bnyc: breezy is broken04:12
naliothr0bnyc: breezy is for "extreme OS enthusiasts"04:12
naliothr0bnyc: breezy is far from "ready for every day use"04:12
r0bnycthanks04:12
char1iecha1kcthulfuego can you show me where to get the smp kernel please04:12
r0bnychoary is debian-testing?04:13
cthulfuego!breezy is also If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it.04:13
ubotuokay, cthulfuego04:13
r0bnyci was wondering if any ubuntu is debian-sid04:13
cthulfuegosubterrific: ,just a moment04:13
cthulfuegochar1iecha1k: Just a momenty04:13
cthulfuegor0bnyc: Kinda, yes04:13
aboodguys, how can i restrict on an ftp account that he just be in his home dir ?, i mean i dont want him to surf others folders ?04:13
cthulfuegoabood: check the ftp server docs for chroot04:13
|QuaD-hey, i am having a problem with mplayer. when I go to maximize it, the window maximizes, but the video inside stays the same, any suggestions?04:13
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Cooner750so; does this look ok? http://www.riccbhard.bravehost.com/gparted2.gif04:14
aboodcthulfuego, from where can i get more info at this subject ?04:15
cthulfuegochar1iecha1k: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp_2.6.10-34.2_i386.deb04:15
cthulfuegoabood: google is your friend. google ftp+chroot04:16
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char1iecha1kcthulfuego thanks04:16
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cthulfuego!depends linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp04:16
ubotulinux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp: depends on initrd-tools (>= 0.1.75ubuntu2), coreutils | fileutils (>= 4.0), module-init-tools (>= 0.9.13)04:16
Cooner750anybody?04:17
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char1iecha1kcthulfuego ok so do i use the same apt get command as before of what?04:17
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tuxroxhello04:19
LinuxJoneschar1iecha1k, >> http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp_2.6.10-34_i386.deb04:19
tuxroxcan anyone help me04:19
evilgod69lol, what wit?04:20
char1iecha1kLinuxJones no i have it on cd now04:20
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evilgod69does anyone know where i can change the logon screen's resolution? ubuntu 5.0404:20
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tuxroxcan anyone help me with apache and php?04:21
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tuxroxi installed apache and php. but when i try phpinfo.php, it attempts to download it04:22
tuxroxwhat is wrong?04:22
abarbacciatuxrox, restart apache04:23
tuxroxabarbaccia, what is the command for that?04:24
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anto9usevilgod69: you need to edit your xorg.conf and in the default depth make sure the resolution you want for gdm is the leftmost04:24
cyphasehey everyone04:24
evilgod69anto9us: thanks04:25
tuxroxwhat is the command to restart apache?04:25
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refuze2loozehow can i get keys on my multimedia keyboard to control beep-media-player? i tried to add commands like "beep-media-player -t" and assign it to 0xa2 which is my play button in configuration editor but that didn't work04:25
cyphasetuxrox, apache2 -k restart04:26
cyphaseas rot04:26
cyphaseroot*04:26
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msg43hi04:26
cyphasehey04:26
tuxroxmsg43, hey04:27
msg43tuxrox, what a strange name :-D04:27
tuxroxlol04:27
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tuxroxi  need some help04:27
tuxroxi installed apache and php. but when i try phpinfo.php, it attempts to download it04:27
msg43tuxrox, what browser are you using04:28
cyphasetuxrox, that happened to me as well04:28
tuxroxthe fox of corse04:28
cyphasei just completely uninstalled everything, then reinstalled it04:28
tuxroxreally? what did u do to fix it?04:28
msg43tuxrox, did you edit http.conf I think that the file?04:29
cyphasetuxrox, it's weird, but..04:29
tuxroxyea...?04:29
cyphasetry installing php before apache, and accept when it says php needs apache04:29
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cyphase1 sec, brb04:29
tuxroxreally?04:29
tuxroxok04:29
tuxroxi will try that i guess04:29
bionicCan anyone help so i can play sound from more than one sound source at the same time? My card is probed with alsa, but uses oss emulation i think.04:30
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anto9ustuxrox: see here http://dan.drydog.com/apache2php.html and go down to bullet point 1104:31
tuxroxok04:31
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msg43matjan_, thank you04:34
tuxroxmsg43, would u be able to do vnc?04:34
msg43tuxrox, why?04:34
tuxroxmaybe you can help me04:35
tuxroxcause u really seem to know what your doing04:35
tuxroxi have read a lot of guides today04:35
tuxroxearlier today04:35
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msg43tuxrox, what is so hard about removing a #?04:36
char1iecha1kLinuxJones cthulfuego: i have tried apt-get install /media/cdrom0/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp_2.6.10-34_i386.deb04:36
tuxroxmsg43, i did that04:36
tuxroxi am 99% sure that's right what i did04:36
char1iecha1kLinuxJones cthulfuego: it was a guess and it said it couldnt find package04:37
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LinuxJoneschar1iecha1k, in Linux ?04:37
char1iecha1kyup04:37
msg43tuxrox, sound me the file04:37
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msg43*send04:37
tuxroxmsg43, which file?04:37
msg43tuxrox, http.conf04:38
msg43through xchat04:38
tuxroxhow? copy and paster?04:38
LinuxJoneschar1iecha1k, you have to cd to /media/cdrom then type dpkg -i file.deb04:38
tuxrox**paste04:38
tuxroxmsg43, how should i send it?04:38
Cooner750How can I mount back my external HD? It's location before it was unmounted was "/dev/sda"04:38
char1iecha1kLinuxJones what command does that do04:39
LinuxJoneschar1iecha1k, you have to cd to /media/cdrom then type sudo dpkg -i file.deb (enter your user password when prompted)04:39
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char1iecha1kLinuxJones ok let me try04:39
msg43tuxrox, right click on my username in xchat, dircet connecto to client->send file04:39
tuxroxahh, i see04:39
tuxroxi just have to locate the file04:39
tuxroxany idea where it is?04:39
tuxroxnever mind04:40
LinuxJoneschar1iecha1k, in linux once you put the cd in it should automatically mount the drive in /media/cdrom, you change to the directory using the cd command, then enter the above command it will then install the .deb for you04:40
msg43how can you edit it if you don't know were it is04:40
tuxroxi do04:40
tuxroxi just forgpt04:40
tuxrox*forgot04:40
Cooner750....04:40
char1iecha1kLinuxJones well it has started to do something!!!04:41
Cooner750mount external usb HD? How-to?04:41
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Quest-MasterHindi and Urdu Ubuntu users-- #ubuntu-hi and #ubuntu-ur :)04:41
LinuxJoneschar1iecha1k, once it's done installing all you have to do is re-boot04:41
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tuxroxdoes anyone know where the apache configuration file is??04:41
greenhornzQUESTION: my resolution is stuck at 640x480, how do i fix this?04:41
tuxroxhttpd.conf??04:42
msg43tuxrox, you lied to me04:42
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tuxroxmsg43, no i didnt04:42
bigfoot1hello, i need libmp3lame.so for audacity. where can i get this file+04:42
bigfoot1?04:42
msg43tuxrox, locate is your friend04:42
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msg43bigfoot1, apt-get04:42
rekagreenhornz: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:42
tuxroxi thoguht i knew where it was,04:42
tuxroxi was wrong04:42
greenhornzreka thanks04:42
aw259Hello. How's everyone this evening?04:42
bigfoot1msg43, i couldn't find the file in synaptic. do you still think i can apt-get it?04:43
msg43tuxrox, locate http.conf04:43
tuxroxmsg43, i will do locate...04:43
Cooner750anybody???04:43
msg43bigfoot1, one sec04:43
rekaaw259: afternoon. :-)04:43
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msg43bigfoot1, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame04:43
msg43sudo apt-get install lame04:43
tuxroxmsg43 i found it04:43
msg43bigfoot1, http://ubuntuguide.org/04:43
bigfoot1aw259, good morning/afternoon/evening/night/day.04:43
aw259Is anyone familiar with MBR and dual boot issues? I'm trying to set up Windows XP and Ubuntu dualboot, each with their own hard drive, but I'm getting some odd errors.04:43
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bigfoot1msg43, i already have gstreamer on my pc.04:44
aw259bigfoot1: Good point. I forgot about the time zones. ;)04:44
msg43you need those two things though04:44
bigfoot1so i wonder if libmp3lame.so is on my computer04:44
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msg43bigfoot1, no04:44
msg43you need lame04:44
bigfoot1audacity says that i just need libmp3lame.so04:44
Cooner750:/04:44
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msg43and then do gstreamer-lame to04:44
msg43it like I addon i think04:44
char1iecha1kLinuxJones it came up with errors, should i reboot and try again?04:44
msg43bigfoot1, you'll get it rust me04:44
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bigfoot1msg43, but i only want to getlibmp3lame.soand nothing else.04:45
bigfoot18-)04:45
tuxroxmsg43, please accept04:45
tuxrox. . . .04:45
aw259Windows XP is set up on a SATA drive (/dev/sda) and Ubuntu is set up on /dev/hdc. If I select the SATA drive from BIOS boot, I get WinXP. If I select the other, I get Ubuntu (and GRUB's bootloader).04:45
msg43tuxrox, I did it your gay firewall04:45
msg43tuxrox, upload it to my ftp04:45
LinuxJoneschar1iecha1k, what errors ?04:45
aw259The bootloader can boot Ubuntu (on the same drive) without issue. When it tries to boot Windows XP, however, I get LILO errors?04:45
tuxroxmsg43, i got rid of the girewall04:46
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bigfoot1msg43, i just checked my synaptic. I found out that i already have gstreamer0.8-lame04:46
hacimhow does one upgrade from the first ubuntu to the latest stable?04:46
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msg43bigfoot1, then install lame04:46
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aw259I've already run FIXMBR and FIXBOOT on the Windows XP drive. It boots up fine if I just instruct the BIOS to boot from the SATA drive. I just can't get the GRUB bootloader to transfer control to the SATA drive without this odd LILO "L 40 40 40.." error.04:46
bigfoot1how, msg43 ?04:46
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msg43sudo apt-get install lame04:46
aboodguys, whats the name of the application that support the pc status in the Desktop Background ?04:47
hacim!upgrade from warty to hoary?04:47
ubotuhacim: I haven't a clue04:47
bigfoot1msg43, oh, i found lame.04:47
hacim!upgrade04:47
ubotumethinks upgrade is "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"04:47
bigfoot1after i install lame, then what?04:47
bigfoot1msg43, ?04:47
msg43tuxrox, it your router04:47
hacimis it really that easy then?04:47
msg43bigfoot1, do you know about updatedb?04:47
bigfoot1norm_, msg43 .04:47
bigfoot1norm_, msg4304:47
bigfoot1msg43, no.04:47
bigfoot1sorry, norm.04:47
rekahacim: yes. :-)04:48
aw259Does anyone know how to see what type of bootloaders are on each partition and each drive's MBR?04:48
Cooner750is anybody paying attention to my questions?04:48
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msg43updatedb is a command to update a search date base04:48
tuxroxmsg43, I am using gFTP for the transer, is that ok??04:48
msg43so run 'sudo updatedb'04:48
msg43tuxrox, it fine04:48
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nezacan anyone recomend a good ftp program04:48
tuxroxok04:48
msg43tuxrox, I use it also04:48
bigfoot1msg43, i have just installed lame. what's the next step to get audacity saving to mp3?04:48
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Cooner750:-/04:48
msg43bigfoot1, close audicity04:48
msg43re open it and try04:48
msg43neza, gftp04:49
tuxroxmsg43, the file is on your ftp04:49
tuxroxcheck it out04:49
tuxroxthank you sooo much, msg43, i really appreciate all of this04:49
Cooner750Does anybody here know how to mount a external USB FAT32 harddisk!?04:49
xiaogilI know that's it's possible to have viariables in a script for the terminal (like: for i in `seq 1 5`; do echo $i; done), but is it possible to have an array variable ?04:49
bigfoot1msg43, it still asks for the location of libmp3lame.so04:50
punkrockguy318How can I send a mail through the command line?04:50
msg43bigfoot1, do you know how to search files in ubuntu?04:50
msg43tuxrox, you sent me the right file???04:50
vinuxpunkrockguy318, I used to use pine04:50
bigfoot1yes, i think i do msg43 .04:50
tuxroxyes04:50
msg43punkrockguy318, you run arch?04:50
bigfoot1are you saying that libmp3lame.so is now on my pc?04:50
gekyeah, pine is good04:50
nezathanx04:50
punkrockguy318vinux, pine is nice, but i'm looking for something that I can do in a script04:51
punkrockguy318msg43, i dual arch and ubuntu04:51
tuxroxmsg43, would u like me to use Gaim??04:51
msg43tuxrox, OH MY04:51
tuxroxmsg43, HOW?04:51
tuxroxWHAT04:51
msg43punkrockguy318,  you make arch packages right04:51
msg43tuxrox, you config file is fucked up04:51
punkrockguy318msg43, yeah04:51
vinuxpunkrockguy318, hmm can't help you there04:51
tuxroxmsg43, how so???04:51
Cooner750................04:51
msg43tuxrox, I'll pm you04:51
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msg43punkrockguy318, ok04:51
msg43thought so04:52
rekaCooner750: searched the forums yet?04:52
tuxroxmsg43, pm??04:52
aw259Does anyone know how to see what type of bootloaders are on each partition and each drive's MBR?04:52
punkrockguy318yeah, i used to make a lot, but i haven't had time to keep up with any of them lately04:52
msg43tuxrox, you'll see04:52
tuxroxohkay04:52
DonLCooner750,  try this. Plug in your USB while live, and wait for a minute. It should show an icon on the desktop04:52
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aboodguys which is better gkrellm or gdesklets ?04:55
msg43abood, never heard of gkrellm04:55
aw259Anyone? :) Just want to know how to find out what is the bootloader on a partition.04:55
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msg43abood, try adekslets04:56
bigfoot1msg43, i found two files with similar names in my /usr/lib/. one is libmp3lame.so.0.0.0 (309kb), the other is libmp3lame.so.0 (19 bytes, link)04:56
DonLGood night folks04:56
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greenhornzQuestion: whats the command to remove a file with contents inside?04:56
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msg43bigfoot1, probably  libmp3lame.so.004:56
msg43try it04:56
bigfoot1greenhornz, is there any other way to remove files? 8)04:57
aboodmsg43, let me check it :) i need one that is more stable n not heavy n support nice themes :)04:57
rekagreenhornz: do you mean a directory?04:57
tuxroxmsg43.... check the pm winodw04:57
gekrm file04:57
char1iecha1kLinuxJones something along the lines of ..short read in buffer copy... thanks for you help i need to go, is it possible to install ubuntu with smp from the start?04:57
greenhornzyes directory04:57
greenhornzsorry04:57
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rekaabood: gkrellm rocks04:58
rekagreenhornz: rm -rf04:58
rekagreenhornz: man rm04:58
bionicCan anyone help so i can play sound from more than one sound source at the same time? My card is probed with alsa, but uses oss emulation i think.04:58
greenhornzthx04:58
rekagreenhornz: rm --help04:58
gekinfo rm04:58
bob_zounds,  I need some advice about sounds!!  Nosound from SB Audigy,  vol set>0...  driver required?  where do I set up the sound card?  tia04:58
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reka:-)04:59
gek>:)04:59
aboodreka, does it support for xmms themes ?  i will take with ur advise  :)04:59
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rekaabood: isn't it a cpu monitor? why would it use xmms themes?04:59
rekafor those with SOUND problems and running gnome: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly05:00
bob_thanks for the tip05:00
aboodreka, just for fun :)05:00
bigfoot1how can i change the quality of an mp3 file (you know the bitrate, etc)?05:00
rekabigfoot1: you'd have to re-rip it to get a higher quality.05:01
cthulfuegobigfoot1: Get the original and re-encode it at a different quality setting.05:01
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bigfoot1cthulfuego, reka, i want to make the filesize of an mp3 smaller.05:01
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gekwell there is a gkrellm xmms plugin05:01
cthulfuegobigfoot1: You will lose a LOT of quality doing it from an already-encoded mp3.05:02
cthulfuegobigfoot1: You can expand it to wav, then recode it to mp3 at a lower setting.05:02
bigfoot1really, cthulfuego ?05:02
nJessits been a while since i used irssi05:02
nJesshow do i connect to multiple servers?05:02
cthulfuegobigfoot1: Yes05:02
cthulfuegobigfoot1: You go from lossy to even more lossy, as opposed to from original to lossy.05:02
bionicreka, is that for my problem too?05:02
bigfoot1cthulfuego, so if i start with ogg, is this fine?05:03
gekwill expanding to wav and then re-encoding actually be any different then reincoding from a mp3? you still are working with a file thats had loss05:03
cthulfuegobigfoot1: No, oggs are lossy too, same problem.05:03
rekabionic: yep.  i know for a fact that should work.05:03
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cthulfuegogek: No, I just don't know of apps that recode an mp305:03
bigfoot1so what programs allow you to choose the quality of an mp3 ?05:04
cthulfuegonJess: '/help server' should see you sorted.05:04
chetang_hello, every one!05:04
bigfoot1hello, chetang05:04
cthulfuegobigfoot1: Any encoder05:04
bigfoot1like?05:04
cthulfuegobigfoot1: lame?05:04
bigfoot1I have soundrecorder, audacity.05:04
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bigfoot1does lame have gui, cthulfuego05:04
bigfoot1?05:04
cthulfuegobigfoot1: Not normally, no.05:05
geksaving your original encodings to flac, so you can play around with different settings for the mp3s might be a good idea05:05
msg43does ubuntu use php5 or php4?05:05
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kbrooksmsg43, you choose. why are you here anyways?05:05
cthulfuego!info php5 hoary05:06
cthulfuegophp405:06
bigfoot1is there a gui mp3 encoder?05:06
kbrookscthulfuego, we dont have dpkg05:06
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kbrookscthulfuego, do  not assume05:06
cthulfuego!info php405:06
ubotuphp4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 4:4.3.10-10ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB05:06
cthulfuegokbrooks: we have ubotu05:06
kbrooks!info php505:06
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msg43kbrooks, cause I"m helping a friend05:07
msg43with apache05:07
msg43kbrooks, which bring me to ask why are you here?05:08
kbrooksbecause i like ubuntu05:08
cthulfuegomsg43: Install libapache2-mod-php4 and he should be ok.05:08
kbrooksthats why05:08
gekubuntu is good. i like mine with mustard05:08
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kbrooksgek, ew05:08
msg43cthulfuego, it should autoadd what it need inthe apache2 http.conf05:08
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msg43lol05:09
uJesscthulfuego: thanks05:09
uJessirssi works05:09
uJess:)05:09
kbrookscthulfuego, ew. eclairs05:09
gekmmm eclairs05:09
geki wish i could bake05:09
kbrooksew ew ew ew ew!05:09
cthulfuegomsg43: No, it works a bit differently on apache2. Try 'sudo a2enmod php4'05:09
kbrooksEW!!!!!!!!!!!!05:09
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rekakbrooks: so i take it you like eclaires?05:09
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cthulfuegogek: eclairs are surprisingly easy05:10
kbrooksreka, NO. I hate them05:10
msg43cthulfuego, ok05:10
kbrookstried one and spat it out05:10
nickthedick?ati?05:10
kbrooksthe momENT05:10
kbrooksmoment05:10
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noobhi everyone... Someone know how can add more radio stations to my Rhythmbox ?05:11
geki cant even bake muffins from premixed stuff without ruining them :(05:11
cthulfuegonickthedick: fglrx is installed by default, afaik.05:11
cthulfuegogek: Blame your oven.05:11
gekyeah, that or the timing05:11
cthulfuegogek: Mine is normally 20C below what the temperature is set to.05:11
nickthedickbut there is no acceleration, ati controlpanel says "mesagl"05:12
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rekanickthedick: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowTo05:12
cthulfuegonickthedick: is X set up to *use* fglrx?05:12
kbrooksnesa is teh sux0r05:12
rekaah, crap05:12
kbrooksmesa05:12
geki rarely use my real oven, the convection toaster oven does everything i need05:12
nickthedickcthulfuego: I have it in Xorg.conf05:12
rekanickthedick: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowTo05:12
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nickthedickreka: I'll take a look05:13
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cthulfuegonickthedick: Ok, then I'm out of ideas.05:13
rekanickthedick: you need to load the module05:13
geka chicken will fit in mine05:13
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rekanickthedick: third time lucky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto05:14
msg43cthulfuego, thanks05:14
geknoob, click music->add new internet radio station05:15
msg43cthulfuego, now only if supertux asked05:15
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msg43I mean tuxrox05:15
nickthedickreka: if I used the ati installer program instead of apt-get, can I still make it work?05:15
REdsyah05:15
noobThanks gek05:15
REdsof course nickthedick05:15
bluefoxicybluefox@icebox:~/misc/paxutil/pax-utils-20050609$ ./ssp_exploit05:15
bluefoxicyYou got OWNED SO BAD!!!05:15
tuxroxhey msg4305:15
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msg43tuxrox, thanks cthulfuego05:15
msg43he gave me the command05:15
rekanickthedick: the ati.com driver?  iirc you need to do something with your kernel for that.  search the forums05:16
tuxroxwhy msg43?05:16
msg43I asked which you should have done he helped05:16
tuxroxoh05:16
msg43cthulfuego msg43: No, it works a bit differently on apache2. Try 'sudo a2enmod php4'05:16
tuxroxwell thank you to everyone who has ever helped me05:16
tuxroxlol05:16
msg43it php4 but it will til later05:16
tuxroxwhat?05:16
msg43tuxrox, nothin05:16
tuxroxmsg43, what did u say?05:16
tuxroxok05:16
tuxroxso, do i just install phpMyAdmin now, msg43?05:17
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msg43tell me one thign05:17
tuxroxok05:17
msg43why are yousetting up a a server?05:17
tuxroxwhat05:17
tuxroxi just want to see if i can get it all to work05:17
msg43tuxrox, you must be stupid do i not speak english05:17
synd_can i run Lsongs on ubuntu?05:17
noobBut another question about music stations... Where can I get linux radio URLs ?05:17
msg43tuxrox, it to much time05:17
tuxroxhow so?05:17
synd_noob: apt-get install streamtuner05:18
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msg43tuxrox, cause you need to know install mysql which you don't kno how to do and that a whole bunch more work to do05:18
noobcool synd... thanks05:18
tuxroxi installed MySQL05:18
msg43tuxrox, but didn't set it up05:19
msg43well whatever I'm going to bed05:19
tuxroxok05:19
msg43or leaving this channel to mysteriuos one05:19
tuxroxthank you for php05:19
tuxroxby the way, i posted on Neowin05:19
msg43tuxrox, that pm type thing05:19
Tweektuxrox, do you know of totse?05:19
msg43no one cares if you posted on neowin or not05:20
tuxroxyou did05:20
msg43tuxrox, PM!!!!!!!!!!!05:20
tuxroxokokok05:20
msg43got I have leave before I flip05:20
synd_anyone know if i can get Lsongs running on ubuntu?05:21
squinnlsongs?05:21
tuxroxsynd_ what is Lsongs?05:21
squinnfrom linspire?05:22
cthulfuego!factoids is at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:22
ubotuokay, cthulfuego05:22
synd_yup.05:22
synd_closest thing to itunes on linux05:22
tuxroxoh, i see05:22
squinnsynd, something linspire did was rename a lot of basic linux apps to make them seem more like windows05:22
squinnlsongs has a real linux name05:22
squinnand i'm looking it up now05:22
synd_squinn: im aware of that. but i cant find the "real" name for Lsongs05:23
Razor-Xanyone here use joe?05:23
squinnsynd, okay. it looks like a kde program05:23
squinnmaybe amarok05:23
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isaihi05:24
isaihow do I make an audio cd?05:24
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synd_squinn: you mean you looked at a screenshot of lsongs and connected it to KDE?05:25
nooboh-no... system say I have not the streamtuner package... It's not at Synaptic too... how can i get it ?05:25
isaiTried dumping .wav file in nautilus cd burning app. It burned but doesn't play in CD player (only shows up on computer CDROM drive).05:25
synd_noob: ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories05:25
noobthankx05:25
squinnsynd, not necessarily05:25
squinni looked at a sshot yes05:25
squinnbut it looks like amarok05:25
cthulfuegoisai: It'll mean installing some additional software, but try k3b.05:26
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synd_sure, all linspire looks like kde, imo05:26
NardGuys how can i get .avi files to play05:26
Nardin xmms05:26
isaicthulfuego: I have to install KDE just to make a CD?05:26
Nardor any media player for that matter05:27
squinnisai, use gnome-toaster or gnome-bkaer05:27
synd_gnomebacker05:27
synd_baker*05:27
squinnthanks05:27
squinnNard, apt-get install win32codecs05:27
squinnand then open the file in Mplayer [Media Player] 05:27
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bob2Nard: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:27
bob2(this is in the faq)05:27
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squinnyeah, that's better05:27
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squinnokay, synd_ i've made a decision05:27
Nardi did the win32 codecs05:28
squinnit's Rhythmbox05:28
Nardand it still won't play05:28
Nardeven in mplayer05:28
squinnhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:28
squinnRead that.05:28
squinnThat's better.05:28
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isaisquinn: Im installing gtoaster now (hope it works)...05:28
Nardok05:28
Nardi'll read05:28
synd_squinn: but rhythmbox doesnt support iTunes sharing.05:28
synd_squinn: Lsongs does05:28
cthulfuegoisai: Not KDE, just k3b and associated libs.05:28
squinnsynd_, linspire adds hacks to little programs like that05:29
squinnrhythmbox does not to my knowledge support dell dj thing, lsongs does05:29
synd_well id love that little hack05:29
squinnyou CAN install lsongs via source on ubuntu05:29
squinnbut..it's a while to do05:29
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squinnhttp://www.linspire.com/download_package_source.php?filename=lsongs_0.2.28-0.0.0.50.linspire0.1.tar.gz& is source, synd_05:30
synd_thanks!05:31
squinnbut05:31
squinnbut but but05:31
isaiWow! Gtoaster has copyright from 2001! This looks like something I used in Suse 6.3 in 1999!05:31
squinnit's requires deps05:31
squinnwhich could be hard-to-get05:31
isaianyways, I'll try K3B05:31
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Razor-Xwow, nobody here uses joe?05:31
newbie101can anyone help me??05:32
Razor-Xshoot, newbie10105:32
bob2joe's a fairly obscure editor05:32
newbie101i am trying to delete a file, but it tells me that i don't have permission to05:32
newbie101how can i delete that file?05:32
bob2newbie101: what file?05:33
Razor-Xbob2: yeah, but, I want someone to use it to write some introductory documentation for it, I have a friend who uses joe, but she's rarely on05:33
Razor-Xnewbie101: sudo rm file05:33
newbie101ah, ok05:33
newbie101thank you05:33
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syndsquinn: i cant get the source05:33
syndnothing comes up with that url05:34
=== Xenguy just completed a stealth ubuntu install tonight at work :P
syndexciting05:34
Xenguyvery impressive distro - everything 'just works'05:35
squinnhm weird05:35
bionicCan anyone help so i can play sound from more than one sound source at the same time? I've done the things on http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly but that didnt fix it. Thanks.05:35
gorilla_Xenguy, stealth?05:35
Xenguygorilla_: subverting my admins (who want me to run only that other OS)05:35
squinnhttp://www.linspire.com/download_package_source.php?filename=lsongs_0.2.28-0.0.0.50.linspire0.1.tar.gz&url=http://10.0.0.84:80/cnrPackageServer.php?fileLocation=/linspire/pkgsrv/pool-src%2Fl%2Flsongs/lsongs_0.2.28-0.0.0.50.linspire0.1.tar.gz, synd05:35
squinntry that05:35
gorilla_Xenguy, ohhhh... I like that idea :-)05:36
Xenguygorilla_: now I'm waiting for the network police to show up ;-)05:36
syndsquinn: still no dice05:36
squinnhm works for me05:36
squinnhttp://www.linspire.com/lindows_products_details.php?package_name=lsongs05:37
squinngo to specifications and then source code link05:37
gorilla_Xenguy, but that's what dual boot is for :-)05:37
Xenguygorilla_: that's exactly what I arranged; a dual boot05:37
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greenhornzChmod +x isnt giving me access, what am i doing wrong?05:38
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newbie101>how do u login as 'root' ??05:38
syndsquinn: something downloads but theres nothing in it?05:38
newbie101i tried logging in as root on the login screen, but it says root can't login that way05:39
Xenguyoh yeah, feedback - 'sudo' this and that is very annoying :P05:39
newbie101i tried logging in as root on the login screen, but it says root can't login that way05:39
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newbie101how does root login?05:39
Xenguynewbie101: read the web site05:40
Burgundavianewbie101, if you truly are a newbie, then use sudo05:40
Burgundaviaso will save yourself a lot of trouble05:40
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gorilla_newbie101, you generally don't. root loggins are a bad idea.05:40
Burgundaviaplus all the graphical system utils use sudo by default05:40
newbie101oh, ok05:40
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newbie101but i am trying to move files to a folder where it says i don't have permission05:40
newbie101what should i do?05:41
Xenguygorilla_: no, root is just something that Ubu has decided to avoid =)05:41
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Xenguynewbie101: read the web site05:41
Xenguy=)05:41
Burgundavianewbie101, use sudo, but where are you trying to move stuff?05:41
newbie101what website?05:41
greenhornzChmod +x isnt giving me access, what am i doing wrong?05:41
siimoanyone know how to log automatically into xfce without the need of gdm/kdm05:41
newbie101Burgundavia, to the apache www folder05:41
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Xenguynewbie101: jesus christ - ubuntulinux.org05:41
newbie101oh05:41
newbie101well, as you can tell, i am new at this05:42
newbie101it's hard when your new05:42
newbie101exit05:42
Xenguynewbie101: don't worry, just read :-)05:42
Razor-Xi'm thinking of ditching vi, only because it's too QWERTYish05:43
sproingiesiimo: you can always use xdm05:43
sproingieRazor-X: surely someone has dvorak keybindings for vi05:43
siimosproingie, i dont think it supports auto-login05:43
sproingiesiimo: ubuntu in general does not05:44
Razor-Xsproingie: i'm looking for it05:44
siimosproingie, yes it does with kdm/gdm05:44
Razor-Xno can do, it seems....05:44
sproingiesiimo: huh .. did not know that05:44
Razor-X"Why use Dvorak? QWERTY's been used for 100 years, it _must_ be good!"05:45
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Razor-X"Err wait, Mr. Computer"05:45
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Razor-X"Honey! I think we need to move!"05:45
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XenguyRazor-X: vim trumps dvorak :-)05:45
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=== Davey notes that Dvorak is a much better layout
DaveyQWERTY is *specifically* laid out to slow you down05:46
Razor-X"My father lived here. My father's father lived here. My father's father's father's father's father's father's father lived here. All the fathers in between lived here. I think we should live in this rotting semi-solid structure too!"05:46
Xenguy*plonk*05:46
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Razor-X"Err, hold on Mr. Computer"05:46
sproingieDavey: myth myth myth myth05:46
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Daveyactually, more to make sure you pressed keys on opposite sides of the typewriters hammers05:46
Daveysproingie: no, its not.05:46
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gorilla_sproingie, if you are using haory go to System->Administration->Login Screen Setup menu Auto login is set there05:47
Razor-X"Damn Mosquiter, it's time you stop bringing your bug friend in the computer room ;)"05:47
tonysup room?05:47
Razor-Xyeah, it's not a myth, QWERTY was made to slow you down05:47
sproingieDavey: dvorak is designed to make you alternate hands.  it would have been even friendlier to manuals than qwerty was05:47
Razor-Xthe original typewriters would jam if you typed too fast05:47
CynetixHey, can anyone help with XP dual boot?05:47
sproingieRazor-X: yet no one can EVER produce any documented evidence to that fact05:47
XenguyCynetix: ?05:47
Razor-XCynetix: shoot05:47
Razor-Xsproingie: you can, in fact05:47
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Daveysproingie: the problem is where the hammers where05:48
sproingieRazor-X: anything not written by mister dvorak, who fabricated a great many things05:48
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Daveythough why they didn't just move the hammers is beyond me05:48
Razor-Xyou can read tons of documents made by Sholes05:48
sproingieyou can't just move the hammers05:48
CynetixI installed and it went fine but when it said it was rebooting into Ubuntu, it never did. No menu or anything.05:48
sproingiethe keys have to press down on the hammer lever, there's nowhere to move those levers05:48
Razor-Xand, you can also observe the hammers of the original typewriter05:48
XenguyCynetix: did you install GRUB to the MBR?05:48
sproingiedvorak would have been even friendlier to manual typewriters05:48
sproingiekeyboard layouts were *patented* in the old days05:49
Daveysproingie: oh, yeah, thats true :)05:49
CynetixI chose that and it showed I had XP pro as well so I thought it was successful05:49
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sproingieqwerty either wasn't patented, or it was a patent that stuck05:49
Razor-Xsproingie: it was made on the manual typewriter05:49
Razor-XDvorak was made before the age of computers05:49
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CynetixI thought it had installed into the MBR on my second drive but that's not the case either05:49
Cooner750ok back05:49
sproingiedvorak was made in the age of electric typewriters actually05:49
XenguyCynetix: it's better to *not* choose the MBR (i.e. say 'no')05:49
tonyanyone have a minute to assist with how to view another computers hard drive on my wireless network?05:49
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Razor-Xin fact, the US government almost switched, but, WWII broke out05:49
Cynetixxenguy: then what do I chose?05:49
Razor-XXenguy: and why would that be05:49
Daveysproingie: the problem with Dvorak is not that its not better, its that people don't want to change05:50
Razor-XCynetix: no, install it to the MBR05:50
gorilla_sproingie, yes it was  a patent (AFAIK) but it sticks because of momentum.05:50
Razor-XI have a WinXP double-boot on this machine, right here05:50
CynetixI did :) but it's not coming up that way.05:50
sproingieDavey: the problem is largely with its boosters, actually05:50
CynetixI verified via the shell from the CD that the install is there.05:50
XenguyCynetix: you say 'no' to MBR, then you install GRUB to the 'linux' partition (the partition that has '/boot' on it)05:50
Razor-Xsproingie: are you telling me QWERTY actually makes more sense than Dvorak?05:50
sproingieDavey: it's like the old vhs/betamax canards that come out every single time05:50
Razor-XXenguy: why would you do that?05:50
Razor-XCynetix: install to MBR, the GRUB menu auto-adds an entry for Windows XP05:51
XenguyCynetix: I'll try to find the URL I found for dual-booting...05:51
sproingieRazor-X: i'm saying that it's a pretty poor thing to hold up as a badge of some sort05:51
CynetixRazor-X: that's what I thought but no go. Hmm.05:51
XenguyCynetix: I just did it tonight (W2K) and it went fine05:51
Razor-Xsproingie: i'm not holding it up as a badge, I think people should get out of their advanced lethargy and switch05:51
XenguyCynetix: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo05:51
sproingieRazor-X: and using terms like "lethargy" are precisely the problem05:51
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Razor-XCynetix: does the Linux partition exist?05:52
sproingieit's a keyboard layout.  retain some perspective.05:52
CynetixXenguy: thanks for URL :)05:52
CynetixRazor-X: Yes. It's there.05:52
XenguyCynetix: yw :-)05:52
Razor-XCynetix: then, try install a different boot-manager05:52
tonyHow do i get access to my xp box on my network?05:53
CynetixOk. I'll give it a go. Thanks for the help folks :)05:53
XenguyCynetix: make sure you use a paritioning prog to make d0ze partition bootable after installing Ubu (if you go that route)05:53
Razor-XI use GRUB no problem, why reccomend not installing to MBR?05:53
sproingiekeyboards in general kind of suck as input devices go.  why in fact need there be a key for each letter?  make rare letters a combination of 2 or 3 keys and have nothing BUT the home row05:53
Cooner750tony: click Applications; then Run Application05:53
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Cooner750and then type "smb://comptername"05:53
Cooner750where computername is the network name of the computer05:54
Razor-Xsproingie: already been done, in fact05:54
tonyk05:54
Razor-Xbut, those keyboards seem outrageously expensive, they're corded keyboards05:54
sproingieRazor-X: yet you don't see proponents of those keyboards badgering everyone05:54
tonyhmm05:54
scottmy hard drive on this T40 thinkpad feels really warm under ubuntu..I think that it's not being spun down when not being used. any ideas how to enable that?05:54
Razor-Xsproingie: of course, because, they don't have much proponent other than 'space saving'05:54
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Razor-Xwell, what about the multitude of Firefox forerunners?05:54
Razor-Xyou look almost as bad as the last era's IE proponers05:55
sproingieactually i imagine the rsi of a kb where you never leave the home row could potentially be worse05:55
Cooner750tony; did it work?05:55
Razor-X"OMG!!!! Firefox man!! Firefox!!"05:55
tonytrying to remember the name of my computer05:55
tonyhehe05:55
tonydoes the entire drive need to be shared for me to see it?05:55
Razor-Xsproingie: it probably would be. I switched to Dvorak because of speed, and because my hands started hurting05:55
Razor-Xodd, because i'm pretty young05:55
sproingiemy hands actually get variety in their motion.  tho i overuse the middle and index fingers too much05:55
chillywillyUbuntu rocks my socks05:55
Cooner750tony; you're accesing it over a network; correct?05:55
Razor-Xbut, mainly, that's why I switched mice, my hands really started giving me hell on a mouse05:55
gorilla_tony, nope... sharing enitre drives is a bad idea...05:56
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sproingiei never type a single key with my little finger, and very rarely with the ring fingers05:56
Razor-Xto a point where, after a long typing session, I _had_ to use a keyboard for my mousing05:56
tonyyes... i have a wireless network and its xp05:56
Razor-Xsproingie: ahhh, the way I used to type ;)05:56
tonyhave all my mp3's on that driver in one folder05:56
Razor-Xthe thing was, hand pains were actually caused by my mice, I didn't know that05:56
sproingieRazor-X: mine's caused by emacs05:56
Razor-Xmy wrist couldn't take the strain of pushing a physical device with the wrist's momentum05:56
nadjylahello :)05:56
Razor-Xsproingie: well, i'm much more familiar with vi, and emacs does feel bloated05:57
sproingiei tried a trackball for a while once.  my hands never hurt worse than when i used it05:57
Cooner750go to the XP machine and share the folder that has those mp3s in it. Also; while you're there right click on "My Computer" and click the "Computer Name" tab to find the name of the computer05:57
gorilla_tony: that should just work, unless you have some sort of permission issue.05:57
scottanyone know how to get the hard drive to stop spinning when not in use? mine's burning a hole in my pants05:57
Razor-Xi'll look more for some vi bindings05:57
sproingienow i just have a good mouse and i grip it very lightly and my hands never hurt05:57
tonyk... brb05:57
Razor-Xsproingie: heh, it seems people's wrists are made differently05:57
DaveyI have carpal tunnel and RSI in both wrists/hands, but I find that just by having my hands elevated properly, it rarely bothers me now05:57
Razor-Xtrackball's for me (not the middle style, I use a thumb trackball) have worked wonders05:57
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Razor-XDavey: the scare part, i'm 1505:58
Razor-XI don't _want_ RSI at 1505:58
DaveyRazor-X: I got it at about 16, I'm 21 now ;)05:58
sproingiethe thumb trackball was pretty nice.  kensington's "80's arcade game" style trackballs are the worst05:58
kobsHi.. I'm installing.. and my DHCP server gave out incorrect info, my install is currently at 50% testing network repository, how can i bypass this?05:58
Razor-XDavey: yes, that's why I don't want RSI05:58
wangsomebody knows how to install realplayer?05:58
gorilla_Davey, that is a a scary concept..05:58
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Razor-Xthat, and my parents will do a huge "I told ja so" thing (no, they're not Spanish)05:58
wangi had instaleed but it doesnt work05:58
gorilla_wang: that is on the ubuntu wiki..05:58
sproingiei could probably get used to dvorak for typing english, but it would drive me bats doing ctrl key combinations like copy and paste05:59
wangthanks, what is the add?05:59
Razor-Xsproingie: I don't want to be totally ostracized from a mouse, that's why I tried a thumb version05:59
Cooner750just a quick question; does ubuntu detect hardware automatcally while running (or is there a command for that too!?)05:59
Razor-Xsproingie: the advantage for me was, I used QWERTY at 90 WPM with a spatial layout05:59
sproingieCooner750: hotpluggable hardware like usb stuff, yes05:59
tonyit wont work05:59
Razor-XI'ld center my fingers around a position, and stem off from there, knowing approximately, in my mind, how far each key was from the other, and keeping an index of the key I was on06:00
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nalioth_wrknRazor-X: i like the big-ball-on-left-side trackballs from logitech06:00
Cooner750so if  it disconnected my corded usb mouse and plugged a wireless mouse (which works in ubuntu); would it recognize it?06:00
gorilla_wang, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ and browse from there.06:00
sproingieRazor-X: never been 90wpm.  i would just be killed in a secretarial type of job unless i had aggressive autocomplete06:00
Razor-Xnalioth_wrkn: that's the exact one I use06:00
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Cooner750tony; what error does the linux computer give06:00
Razor-XCooner750: I believe so06:00
Razor-Xsproingie: 130 and pround ;)06:00
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tonythe folder contents could not be displayed06:00
kobsThis must be a bug.. if network settings are incorrect, the install seems to hang at testing network repository..and i have no way of getting out of this.. this really sucks, i have to restart the isntallation?06:01
Razor-XI also keep my trackball slightly angled to the left, it seems to feel more natural06:01
Cooner750make sure the computer name is typed correctly; it is case sensitive I believe06:01
tonycouldnt display all the contents of "Windoes Network: nvtb main"06:01
Razor-Xkobs: I belive so :(06:01
wangwhy i have this msg in the synaptic ftp://ubuntujava.yimports.com/source/Release: PASS failed, server said: Login incorrect.06:01
wang??06:01
kobsThat's pretty  bad06:01
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sproingieRazor-X: i write code.  most of my code is something like "if req<alt-space>.par<alt-space>('max<alt-space') < MAX_H<alt-space> ...06:01
kobsthat should be fixed...06:01
tonydamn i got it06:02
Razor-Xsproingie: and I code as well ;)06:02
Cooner750hmm.. is it just me or does smb not work 90% of the time?06:02
tonyunder places06:02
wanghow do i get the pass?06:02
sproingieRazor-X: i could really use an autocomplete single key, but there just aint any placed handily06:02
kobsNevermind, it finally went on to the next step, after about 20 minutes06:02
Cooner750tony; did you get it working?06:02
tonywent to places06:02
Razor-Xsproingie: write your own06:02
gorilla_wang: particulary section 10 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:02
tonynetwork06:02
=== sproingie rebound emacs's alt-/ to alt-space, much easier
tonyis there a way to shortcut that location?06:02
wanggorilla_: thanks!!!06:02
GNULinuxerhas anyone faced this weird problem with 2.6.11 kernels? the mouse pointer moves extremely slowly ?06:03
Cooner750tony; I believe you can drag the location icon to the desktop and it should make a icon for it06:03
sproingieRazor-X: well sure, but i can't see any key where it would be useful.  except maybe for tapping ctrl, but X doesn't have a concept of modifiers-as-keystrokes like windows has with the win key06:03
sproingieand unfortunately ONLY the win key06:03
wangwhy i have this msg in the synaptic ftp://ubuntujava.yimports.com/source/Release: PASS failed, server said: Login incorrect.06:03
wang?06:03
Cooner750Or; get the address of that location and right-click on desktop and "create launcher"06:03
tonygot it06:04
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scottanyone know how to make my hard drive rest when it's not in use? it's super hot06:04
tonyawesome... this shit is gettin easier and easier06:04
Cooner750tony; glad you got it working :)06:04
tonyhey scott...06:04
Cooner750samba (SMB) hardly ever works for me06:04
tonyi have that same problem06:04
Cooner750Since i'm running a livecd right now I have no HD spin issues... it must be quite annoying06:04
Jimbobsamba works fine if it's configured properly (which is the tricky part)06:05
chillywillyfix it06:05
nalioth_wrknwang: where did you get the URL for that ftp site?06:05
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tonyi have a dell laptop and i cant even put it on my lap06:05
tonycuz its so hot06:05
wangfrom somewhere i am not sure06:06
gorilla_tony, excellent work!! Unix gets easier as you learn that there are more than one way to do it :-)06:06
scotttony, mine's on my lap right now and it's burning my you know what06:06
wangi will erase it but is the add to get the java06:06
naliothwang: from somewhere would come the user/pass06:06
tonymy peeter's on fire!! hehe06:07
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wangi had hundret of ways06:07
wangthanks06:07
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naliothyou guys are heading for sterility06:07
tonyhahaha06:07
tonythat might be a good thing06:07
Cooner750wouldn't the hd constantly running cause a big heat issue in a desktop?06:07
Cooner750and/or kill the drive quicker?06:07
amir__Hey. in the Ubuntu faq they say you can apt-get install sun-j2re1.5, but i don't see such a package when i try it (yes, added universe and multiverse)06:08
wangit is supoused that is installed but something happend that it doesnt work06:08
naliothCooner750: depending on software installed, the HD may spin down during periods of non use06:08
gorilla_Cooner750, not if the case is well designed...06:08
nalioth!Java06:08
ubotusomebody said java was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java06:08
Cooner750I know the cd drive sure spins down when not in use. :p06:08
amir__thanks06:08
naliothamir__: what ubotu said06:08
Cooner750beacause it freezes when launching a program; because it's a livecd06:09
AhabI'm having an install problem.  I am trying to install hoary on an older laptop and it gets to the installing packages part and then hangs saying something about a 'bootstrap' problem and it possibly being bad media.  The thing is I just used the same cd to install ubuntu on a different box.  Any suggestions on what the problem might be?  Thanks.06:09
Madpilotevening, all. when Syn puts a little gold star next to a package which isn't installed, what does that mean?06:10
Cooner750this is cool. It's the first distro of linux i've used that actually detects usb devices when I plug them in...06:10
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wangthanks06:10
naliothAhab: could be your 'older' cdrom drive just isnt reading properly anymore06:10
tonyanyone know if winamp has a ubuntu version?06:10
Madpilotack, nvr mind. just found Syn's Icon Legend...06:10
naliothMadpilot: means theres and upgrade for it available06:10
naliothMadpilot: darn! my effort for naught06:11
Razor-Xnooo!!!!!!!06:11
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gorilla_tony, try xmms instead. XMMS is a close winamp clone.06:11
Razor-XI could feel it06:11
Cooner750brb06:11
Razor-Xemacs just undid some vi muscle memory06:11
tonywebsite is xmms.com?06:11
Razor-Xall is lost!06:11
naliothtony: try beep media player, it's a modern fork of xmms06:11
naliothRazor-X: get some pie06:11
gorilla_tony: don't know what the web site is... sorry.06:12
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Razor-Xnalioth: I might have to.... I might have to06:12
Daveyhmm, seems like Nautilus will no longer start for me /06:12
Razor-Xnalioth: also, I have a slightly more updated version of the guide up06:12
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Razor-Xcan someone try and complete the basic commands section, it's getting boring -_-06:12
naliothRazor-X: do you know the /notice command?06:13
Razor-Xand there are so many basic commands and techniques, I keep forgetting I know them all06:13
Razor-Xnalioth: yes....06:13
neighborleeanyone know whats up with some icons now showing up on panel after you add it from Menu ( after having installed say gftp in synaptic) and is there a fix  for this in general or is it app specific ???06:13
naliothRazor-X: you have not collaborated with ME <sniff>06:13
Drexleri dont know if any of you can help me, but i just tried using the Ubuntu Live CD, and i got an xserver error, it said it could not detect screens06:13
Ahabwell, I do know the drive still works, as it will read and boot other disks.  is there an alternate install method I could try.  other than cd?06:13
Razor-Xnalioth: you want the LaTeX source?06:13
Razor-Xbecause, if you do, i'll clean up some of my bad coding ;)06:14
gorilla_Razor-X, what command section??06:14
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Cooner750ok back :)06:14
naliothAhab: try burning another ubuntu cd, but more slowly06:14
Razor-X(like random comment-outs on commands that didn't work)06:14
naliothgorilla_: Razor-X is thinkin he's an author06:14
Razor-XCooner750: a guide to introduce the beginner to the command-line06:14
naliothgorilla_: but i think Razor-X is more like a fred06:14
Ahabnalioth, ok, thanks.06:15
Razor-Xgorilla_: I am an author ;) I've written more than this piece of documentation, and not just computer-related stuff either06:15
naliothRazor-X: you know where to  go to discuss these things06:15
Drexlercan you guys help me out?06:15
Razor-Xyeahp yeahp06:15
naliothRazor-X: you're not a 'fred'?06:15
neighborleeDrexler, sure sounds like it could not detect your monitor ...how far in boot are you getting...06:15
Cooner750I was wondering; why doesnt sound work in flash?06:15
Drexlerneighbor, im getting through everything until it tries to load the GUI06:15
r0dCooner750,  are you using kde?06:15
Cooner750nope. Gnome06:16
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Tweekhow do i load floppy drive modules :|06:16
Cooner750although I know that I cannot play mp3s06:16
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nalioth!Restricted06:17
ubotuit has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:17
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naliothCooner750: see waht ubotu said06:17
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Cooner750I get the "render the stream" error; but I wont worry about that until I actually make a backup of the external HD, resize and partition it06:17
gorilla_nalioth, I wish i as known that bot command :-)06:17
gorilla_s/as/had/06:18
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r0dCooner750,  dont know. I'm sure you checked your alsa module is up. use amixer to see if anythings mute06:18
Ucupalloha06:18
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naliothgorilla_: ubotu is full of weird sh....tuff06:19
Tweekanyone know the name of floppy drive modules :|?06:19
synd_nalioth: so are you06:19
synd_: >06:19
tonydamnt06:19
tonyhow do i get to the desktop when i am in the root in a terminal06:20
Daveyanyone had it to where Nautilus will no longer start?06:20
Tweektony, cd Desktop06:20
tonyno such file or directory06:21
Tweekcapital06:21
gorilla_Tweek, try floppy :-)06:21
Tweekmake sure06:21
naliothsynd_: most of the time, my sh...tuff don't stink06:21
Tweekok gorilla06:21
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tonyroot@BONJOUR:~ #06:21
tonythats where i am06:21
gorilla_Tweek, it was the only driver that I have loaded that makes sense...06:21
Tweektony06:21
Tweeknot root terminal06:21
tonyoh06:22
tonysorry06:22
tonywhat did i do wrong?06:22
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Tweek"terminal" is different from "root terminal"06:22
franciscohola06:22
Cooner750brb06:22
franciscohola06:22
tonyhow do i get to just the terminal06:22
TweekGorilla_ it says no command found06:22
thr1ceinstead of root terminal, just click terminal06:23
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franciscose) released! http://www.ubuntulinux.org/504Released06:23
tonyduh, im an idiot06:23
gorilla_Tweek, that's the name of the mopdule not the command.06:23
thr1cemodprobe the module06:23
gorilla_Tweek, try modprobe floppy06:23
Tweekok :)06:23
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gorilla_actually why do I have the floppy module loaded when there is no drive??06:24
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Jimbobgorilla_, hotplug undoubtedly loaded it, you can remove it with "sudo rmmod floppy"06:25
Jimbob(why hotplug decided to load it is another matter, though)06:25
Tweekhmm06:25
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Tweekafter i loaded the module should i restart? :|06:25
Madpilot:) there are a few of us with floppy drives left, you know...06:26
tonygotta nother question06:26
Tweekwell, it has my school reports on it06:26
tonyinstalling bmp06:26
Tweekgetting it working is vital06:26
tonyand i have a couple issues06:26
gorilla_Tweek, no need... just load the module, and try testing again.06:26
Tweeki did06:26
Tweekno worky worky :(06:26
gorilla_Tweek, what does dmesg say... the last couple of lines.. dump it into #flood06:27
Tweek:\06:28
tonywhen i typed ./configure it ran but gave me an error06:28
tonyno acceptable C compiler found in $path06:28
gorilla_Tweek: okay those lines are sata drives running off an nvidia IDE chipset... I'm stumped at this stage :-(06:29
Tweek:\06:29
gorilla_tony: have you installed gcc??06:29
Tweeki blame my motherboard. it has been nothing but trouble06:29
tonyeeeeeekkk.... gcc, hmm06:29
tonyi dont think so06:29
tonyhow many other things am i missin, hehee06:29
quamapparently there are versions of gcc installed, but some shit doesn't like using them :P06:30
Tweekget, build essentials06:30
Tweekand gcc :|06:30
tonygorilla: how do i install gcc/06:31
squinntony, apt-get install build-essential06:31
tonydone... is that all i need to do?06:32
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tonyconfigure: error: cannot find x11 headers/libraries06:34
srbakeris there a place where i can download the live/install cd image via http or ftp?06:34
srbakeror...  if i burn a cd image to a dvd, will it still boot?  are they compatible enough?06:34
naliothsrbaker: it will boot, you just waste a few gigabytes06:35
srbakerexcellent.06:35
srbakernalioth, i have a spindle of blank DVD+Rs, but no blank CDs06:35
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srbakerthanks06:35
nadjylabye06:36
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tonyconfigure: error: cannot find x11 headers/libraries """ anyone know whats this means??06:36
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ninwaDoes anybody know any software for Linux that can play .ra files? (iTunes Radio Streams)06:36
naliothsrbaker: there is an install dvd image, also if you can find it06:37
ninwaer06:37
ninwaI guess .ra is real audio, huh06:37
ninwabrainfart, but nevertheless06:37
tonyi must have stumped ppl with that one06:37
Ahabdoesn't helixplayer play .ra stuff, since it's all real?06:38
srbakernalioth, only available via bittorrent06:39
srbakerand i don't have all night06:39
naliothtony: search synaptic for xorg libs with -dev on the end06:39
naliothsrbaker: the install disk will get you goin (do you use prozilla?)06:39
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x_orCan someone explain to me how to change options in the /etc/init.d scripts which are portable across new installs?  Meaning, I would rather not edit the files directly, but somehow have a global file which specifies options for them on an individual basis.06:41
tonynalioth: where is synaptic06:41
bob2x_or: either way, you have to edit the init.d script06:42
naliothtony at a terminal, type "sudo apt-get install synaptic"06:42
bob2either to add your options or to make it support some other random file to store options in06:42
tonynalioth: hwo many other programs do we need to install06:43
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tonysaid it was already installed06:43
kbrooksI need java06:43
naliothtony: that depends on what you want to do06:43
x_orbob2:  Hmm, OK.  Yeah, see it looks like there is an attempt (I am looking in the icecast-server script) to read the env var OPTIONS first, and if it is blank then use defaults.  But, overriding this when I run it doesn't seem to work.06:43
wangbuuu it doesnt work, it is installed but steal doesnt work06:43
nalioth!Java06:43
ubotu[java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java06:43
kbrookssomeone help me06:43
srbakernalioth, prozilla?06:43
Cooner750will mp3, etc... audio plugins actually be installed in the next release? saving a lot of headaches06:43
bob2x_or: er, presumably it sources /etc/default/icecast or something06:43
tonysaid i already had synaptic06:43
x_orGood idea.06:43
bob2Cooner750: has the legal situation changed?06:44
wangwhat about realplayer!!!!06:44
naliothsrbaker: prozilla is so voracious a downloader, it roX06:44
bob2wang: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:44
wangi had done everithing that wiki saids06:44
wangyes but steal doesnt work06:44
Cooner750I cannot get realplayer to install without ubuntu compleatly freezing :/06:44
wangi had donde the link06:44
srbakerwell, i have 7 minutes left of my download06:44
bob2wang: what's your native language?06:44
wangspanish06:45
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bob2Cooner750: freezing? how?  the whole system locks up?06:45
bob2wang: try #ubuntu-es.06:45
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Cooner750It says "Extracting files for realplayer...." and it majorly slows down and I cannot do anything except use the power button06:45
srbakerwhere's the right place to find libdvdcss for ubuntu so i can watch dvd movies?06:46
Cooner750srbaker: http://ubutuguide.org06:46
srbakerthx06:46
Cooner750look for dvd player support06:46
tonywhats next? i havent figured out what to do with this error06:46
tonyconfigure: error: Cannot find X11 headers/libraries06:47
wangthere is no one in the spanish channel jajaja i knew it, to lazy06:47
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bob2tony: what are you trying to compile?06:47
RobNychow do I install 2.6.11 kernel ?06:47
tonyinstalling bmp06:48
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AmaranthRobNyc: You don't06:48
deltronrob: apt-cache search linux-image06:48
wangplease somebody can tell me how i get to work REALPLAYER!!!06:48
deltronhehe06:48
RobNycAmaranth, why not06:48
bob2tony: why are you compiling it? it's in ubuntu already.06:48
AmaranthRobNyc: The 2.6.11 kernel in hoary isn't really 2.6.11, it's a snapshot of sometime after 2.6.10 and is known to break things horribly.06:48
tonybob2: where?06:49
Cooner750srbaker: I  screwed up the link. it's http://www.ubuntuguide.orh06:49
Cooner750org*06:49
Cooner750I hate laptop keyboards :/06:49
RobNycAmaranth, i just experienced that lol06:49
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RobNyci reinstalled hoary cuz i had removed the others06:49
RobNycand my keyboard ormouse, or everything would just crash06:49
deltroni'm trying to get hoary to work right with my laptop right now06:49
deltroncan't get my touchpad working right06:49
bob2tony: in the universe repository06:49
AmaranthRobNyc: GNOME and the 2.6.11 package don't play nice, you get hard locks.06:49
RobNycAmaranth, i saw it ;) thanks06:50
X7Canybody knows about LANs? i need some help06:50
tonysorry im new bob2, where is the universe repository06:50
Cooner750Will there ever be a version of Ubuntu that is small enough to fit on a flash disk? I can fit Slax 5 onto my 256MB usb jumpdrive with room to spare06:50
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naliothubotu: Restricted06:51
uboturumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:51
naliothtony what ubotu said06:51
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holycowCooner750, wtf are you talking about?06:51
tonywhat do you mean nalioth?06:51
holycowCooner750, its debian for f's sake06:51
naliothtony: ubotu is a bot that answers !questions06:51
holycowtake out what you don't want until you get 256 megs06:52
Cooner750holycow; Slax is; well based on Slaxware06:52
Cooner750Slackware I mean06:52
naliothtony: instead of me typing the same thing all the time06:52
holycowwhy they hell would anyone bother to do such a thing tho?06:52
tony!questions06:52
ubotutony: I don't know06:52
bob2tony: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto06:52
naliothtony: read what ubotu said aobut restricted06:52
Cooner750holycow; to make it portable06:52
naliothor what bob2 said (he's not a bot)06:52
Cooner750As is I can take a usb flash disk to any of my computers and tell it to boot from USB06:52
cthulfuegobob2 is *so* a bot06:52
bob2cthulfuego: parser error; dunno what you're talking about06:53
cthulfuegoAmaranth: The package info commands work again on ubotu.06:53
tonyk, thanks06:53
holycowCooner750, well just start apt-get removing packages and see if you can get it down to that06:53
Amaranthcthulfuego: Cool.06:53
cthulfuego!dstats breezy06:54
holycowthen create an image offwhats left, theres a few tutorials out there on how to do that06:54
ubotuUbuntu Distro Stats on breezy... 16734 packages, 1546 maintainers, 31854 MB installed size, 10105 MB compressed size.06:54
bob2tony: no need to /msg me06:54
Cooner750hmm; good idea :). Then maybe I dont have to use the slow livecd (because of read speed) and I'll be able to save settings (flash disk is in FAT32 format)06:54
Madpilotbob2: I thought ubotu told you you were on crack if it couldn't answer a question?06:54
deltronlol06:54
bob2Madpilot: I think it depends on the way it's confused06:54
holycowCooner750, maybe using a 500 meg flash drive is more reasonable tho if you wanta  desktop06:55
tonyStart Synaptic by selecting: Computer -> System Configuration -> Synaptic Package Manager06:55
tonywhere is computer?06:55
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Cooner750Places > Computer06:55
Madpilotbob2: guess so... of course, I was *trying* to confuse the poor thing at the time.. :)06:55
naliothtony: top left corner06:55
GNULinuxertony, that's wrong06:55
tonythank you06:55
bob2hah06:55
bob2tony: system -> admin -> package manager06:56
Amaranthtony: Wow, are you on warty? :) It's System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager in hoary.06:56
GNULinuxertony, synaptic is system > admin > synaptic06:56
bob2doc team, hurry up and make things work for hoaryt!06:56
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cthulfuegobob2: Anything wrong with the debian docs? ;-)06:56
tonyi am dumb i guess06:56
tonybut i found it06:56
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vHintswenhello06:57
paxonHurry and publish the first Ubuntu book.06:57
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vHintswenfinally someone who can help lol06:57
vHintsweni dunno how to install ubuntu06:57
Madpilotpaxon: trouble with a Ubuntu book is that it'll be obselete too fast... 2 releases per year, etc...06:57
bob2vHintswen: you need to be way more specific06:58
vHintsweni burnt it to cd, put in cd drive and rebooted. it just loaded windows...06:58
bob2vHintswen: configure your bios to boot the cd06:58
hornsbymorning :)06:58
cthulfuegovHintswen: Tell the computer to boot from CD.06:58
paxonMadpilot, true.06:58
naliothvHintswen: does your bios support cd booting?06:58
bob2I wish ABC was more up to date with Dr Who06:58
deltronargh, i'm doing the expert install, and i think i found a bug, i fat-fingered the root pw and it won't let me re-input it06:58
bob2I wanna know who bad wolf is06:58
vHintswenyeah i not 100%shure how to but i did do something to make it load cd first or something, still didn't work06:58
cthulfuegobob2: muaha06:58
Cooner750nalioth; I think it might have to be quite old to not support cd booting :p06:58
vHintsweni'll go try again...06:58
tonybob2: ok im in the package manager06:58
Cooner750my 133Mhz can support CD booting...06:58
tonynow what do i do06:58
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naliothCooner750: ya never know what hardware is gonna pop up in here06:59
Cooner750true :p06:59
bob2tony: go to the repository manager06:59
xedokay, so this is probably a common question.. but I need help with ..hmm... not entirely sure what.. but I don't think the refresh rate on my system is workin out too well06:59
tonysettings/repository... im there06:59
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xedCan anyone link me to some place or help me out?07:00
vHintswenwhile bios thing lading u press delete right?07:00
vHintswenand which setting is it?07:00
Cooner750vHintswen: When you turn the computer on somewhere it will probably flash quickly something like "Press DEL" or Press "F2"07:00
bob2vHintswen: depends entirely on the bios07:00
xedhttp://google.com .. is not a good link to give me.07:00
vHintswenwhat's it normally?07:00
Cooner750usually Delete or F207:00
bob2xed: it's complicated to fix, unfortunately07:00
xedah poops07:01
xedhow complicated, bob2?07:01
vHintswenyeah but what settings i gotta change07:01
Cooner750on most toshiba laptops it's ESC.07:01
vHintsweni already knew about delete :P07:01
bob2if you have to ask, "quitE"07:01
Cooner750You change the boot order07:01
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vHintswenk...07:01
xed...I have to ask quite?07:01
xedoh..07:01
xedI see its "quite hard"07:01
nando#PearPC07:01
Cooner750It will say like "1st. HD-0" "2. Floppy 1" "3rd. CD ROM07:01
xedwho wants to help me?07:02
Cooner750just change it to something like "Floppy, CDROM, HD"07:02
bob2xed: probably just easier to file a bug07:02
holycowhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/15/psycho_robot/  <-- must be running windows07:02
tonybob2: im in the repositories07:02
vHintswenCMOS Settings?07:02
bob2tony: cool07:02
Cooner750vHintswen: does it say anywhere what brand BIOS you have?07:02
xedbob2: what now?07:02
tonyonly one item in there07:03
xedbob2: what's .. easier to file a bug?07:03
vHintswenjust a sec...07:03
Cooner750I may be able to get more specific instructions07:03
bob2nevermind07:03
xedhmm.. maybe I should be a little more detailed here07:03
xedI'm what the online community calls a noob when it comes to these matters.07:03
Cooner750vHintswen: It may say something like "Phoenx BIOS", etc...07:03
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xedand by "these matters".. I'm ..talking about linux/ubuntu..07:03
bob2people don't say "noob"07:03
roltnew in linux07:03
bob2only people who think they are "noob"s use that term07:04
tonybob2: what do i do from the repository?07:04
bob2tony: don't know, i don't use synaptic07:04
roltfor the first time im linux friend07:04
xedbob2: people call me noobs all the time, at work, at home.. online, in hell, etc.07:04
bob2sure, as above07:04
vHintswenAMIBIOS SIMPLE SETUP UTILITY07:04
tonycan anyone help me to install bmp07:05
bob2xed: anyway, what video chipset07:05
vHintswenAmerican Megatrends07:05
bob2tony: blah, just edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly07:05
bob2tony: open a terminal07:05
Cooner750vHintswen; hold on; let me take a look at Google07:05
bob2tony: type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"07:05
vHintswenk07:05
bob2tony: read the intructions about universe07:05
tonybob2: in there07:05
xedbob2: Geforce2 MX 100 DDR/200 DDR07:06
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Madpilotholycow: better robot story here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/4077698.stm  :)07:06
Cooner750vhintswen: Select option #207:06
bob2xed: ouch07:06
xed...don't hurt me!07:06
Cooner750"BIOS Features Setup"07:06
bob2xed: how aure are you that the refresh rate is wrong07:06
vHintswenyeah that's what i did b4, page up/down to change them...07:06
xedI'm using it on my pentium 2... I put the old card in there07:06
vHintswenbrb07:06
Cooner750ok07:06
xedbob2: I'm not sure at all.07:06
Cooner750I found this helpful: http://www.buildorbuy.org/biosamiset.html07:07
bob2xed: ok then07:07
holycowMadpilot, ha!  that is much better than my robot story07:07
xedSo.. yeah, I originally had it on my laptop.. but you know.. that.. wasn't going too well.07:07
holycowrofl07:07
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holycowyou must be british07:07
Cooner750vhintswen: hit F10 when you are done07:07
holycowoh look, another canuck07:08
Madpilotholycow: no, Canadian, actually. A friend sent me that URL, and I use the BBC website a lot anyway!07:08
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Cooner750I found http://www.buildorbuy.org/biosamiset.html through google *confused*07:09
vHintswenwhy f10?07:09
vHintswenand i tried it, still just loads windows07:09
Cooner750to save settings & exit07:09
Cooner750even if you set CD drive 1st?07:09
vHintsweni tried with cd in both my cd drives...07:09
xedbob2: looking into it.. or no?07:09
vHintswenhaven't tried that as first.,.. it had IDE-0 first or something... didn't wanna mess with it 1 sec i try07:09
xedbob2: are you laughing.. laughing doesn't help me..07:10
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Cooner750I think IDE-0 is the Harddrive; that's why it's loading windows07:10
bob2xed: what?07:11
bob2xed: you're not even sure if you have a problem or not07:11
tonyi have a problem07:11
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Cooner750vHintswen: Try this: 1. FLOPPY; 2. CDROM; 3. IDE-007:11
bob2tony: which is?07:11
xedbob2: I'm sure.07:11
tonywhen i open up synaptic package manager it gives me an error: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)07:11
xedThere's .. flickering on the screen..07:11
bob2xed: and the problem is...07:11
vHintswenand hard drive?07:11
xedYou know.. the slowness ...07:11
xedI'm sure thats not suppose to happen.07:11
bob2xed: what slowness?07:12
bob2tony: hit the "update" button or so07:12
xedYou know.. it..aggh I suck at explaining this..07:12
Cooner750vHintswen: is there one called "harddrive"?07:12
concept10tony, that repository may be down07:12
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vHintswenno it's something -HDD07:12
xedwhen fading in or out.. its sort ..of like really slow.. like there's some really shitty fps or something07:12
sbcl3what repository can i get "sun-j2re1.5" from?07:12
muah deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted07:12
muah deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted07:12
muahreplace your /etc/apt/sources.list w/ the above07:13
bob2xed: like when logging out?07:13
bob2muah: NO07:13
Cooner750vHintswen; Just try it with -- 1. FLOPPY; 2.CDROM; 3. IDE-007:13
nalioth!Java07:13
ubotuI heard java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java07:13
xedbob2: that.. would be it,07:13
tonyvery confused, i just wanna play mp3's07:13
bob2that is utterly terrible advice and will break your computer07:13
naliothsbcl3: what ubotu said07:13
xedbob2: and when logging in basically07:13
bob2muah: perhaps you mean "add to the bottom"07:13
Cooner750and hdd i dunno.07:13
bob2xed: known bug07:13
muahcould do that too07:13
xedits a bug?07:13
xedHow come I never had it on my laptop!?07:13
muahi just wiped my file and pasted those 2 lines today...werks fine for me07:14
Cooner750tony; I wanted to play mp3s too. Seems like too much of a hassle07:14
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concept10tony, you need to check the restricted formats wiki07:14
vHintswengot it...07:14
bob2muah: er, no, now you're screwed07:14
vHintsweni have IDE-0,CDROM, HDD07:14
muahyeah, right...that's why it works for me07:14
tonyif i cant play em im ditchin ubuntu07:14
Cooner750vHintswen; also when you get the chance; take out the CD and make sure windows still boots without it07:14
hondjehahahaha07:14
bob2tony: dude07:14
pepsitony, bye07:14
pepsi:D07:14
bob2tony: I've explained how to get it07:14
vHintswenit's in setup...07:14
bob2tony: which bit is confusing you07:14
xedno.. no help xed?07:14
tonythanks pepsi07:15
pepsinp07:15
concept10tony, you can play them you just need to install them and have some paitence07:15
bob2muah: good luck with that (you've told apt not to use ubuntu packages at all, ever)07:15
bob2pepsi: please don't07:15
tonyi am guys07:15
vHintswendo i have to go to advanced if i want a dual boot?07:15
bob2xed: as I said, known bug07:15
tonyi dont wanna screw anything up07:15
bob2tony: which bit is confusing you?07:15
concept10!restricted07:15
ubotuI guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:15
muahgood point07:15
Cooner750vHintswen; are you livecd or install cd?07:15
vHintsweninstall07:15
tonywell i read about synaptic and how to install07:15
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concept10tony, follow that link07:15
xedbob2: I don't understand what.. if thats suppose to answer my question07:15
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xedwhat about when the screensaver's really slow?07:15
tonyk, concept07:16
sbcl3muah: thankyou very much :)07:16
concept10tony, go there and read07:16
uJesshow do i mount hdb?07:16
bob2xed: what screensaver?07:16
Cooner750um; I dont know much about install. Have you partitioned the HD for ubuntu?07:16
xedAll of them generally07:16
muahscreensaver slow may be due to 3d drivers not being set up07:16
xedThey're generally really slow.07:16
vHintswenno07:16
bob2xed: if you mean "screensavers that use GL are slow on a p2", then that's a seperate issue07:16
vHintswensum1 said that it'll automaticly do it when i install07:16
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xedmuah: and how do I go about setting up the 3d drivers?07:16
bob2xed: that would be because you haven't enabled the 3d drivers for your card07:16
vHintswendoesn't really matter if i can't dual boot07:16
muahah...how long do u have :)07:16
xedhow do I go about doing this?07:16
bob2xed: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:16
xedThank you!07:16
bob2tony: which step is confusing you?07:16
xedbob2: <307:17
vHintswenif i have to install over windows it's no loss to me.. it's a old computer07:17
vHintswendon't use it much07:17
tonywell you dont use that synaptic so... thats where i got confused07:17
Cooner750vHintswen: are there any important files; or any files you dont want gone?07:17
vHintswennot that i know of07:17
bob2tony: so, you edited /etc/apt/sources.list, like I said?07:17
tonyi removed the #'s from in front of the last two lines07:18
vHintsweni think i wouls have most of my stuff from there on this computer already...07:18
vHintswenwould*07:18
muahmay want to try sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver07:18
bob2tony: please paste the whole file to #flood07:18
muahto install 3d drivers07:18
Cooner750vHintswen; I'd make sure that you back up any files that you can't decide whether you want or not..07:18
Cooner750because dosent installing Ubuntu format the drive?07:18
xedWhat's the minimum required processor speed for Ubuntu?07:18
muahthere's a thread in the wiki dedicated to setting up 3d drivers in Hoary07:18
bob2xed: anything07:18
xedOr should I say, suggested minimum?07:18
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bob2it depends entirely what you want to do07:19
xedfor an gui like gnome..07:19
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xeda*07:19
vHintswenwell i don't use it, my sis only uses for printing sometimes, and someone else only uses for yahoo so there's really no point lol07:19
bob2gnome will be unhppay with anything slower than a p2 with 256mb of ram07:19
KarlosIInah07:19
Cooner750vhintswen; have you made sure the computer can run Ubuntu at a speed that isn't annoying?07:20
vHintswenno o.o07:20
xedwhat's this xfc thing?07:20
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bob2"xfce"07:20
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xedyeah, that07:20
hondjeXFce is a light-weight, full featured desktop environment07:20
vHintswenwhere's the system requirements?07:20
Cooner750vHintswen; what speed processor and how much RAM does the computer have?07:21
xedwhat be that?07:21
vHintsweno.o slow and 159.0 MB ram lol07:21
bob2another desktop, ala gnome but simpler07:21
xedhow's that thing? i heard it works faster than gnome..07:21
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xedhmm.. do I have to dowload it? Because I really don't want to have to download it.07:21
xedI don't have net on the p2 yet.07:21
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Tweekxed ditch x11 :)07:21
xedx11.. being.. what?07:21
Tweek:<07:22
xedWhat?07:22
Tweekgraphical interface07:22
xedOh.. i see07:22
Tweeksorta07:22
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xedWell I'm not even close to being that far advanced yet.07:22
vHintswen1-2ghz maybe...07:22
Cooner750vhintswen; hmm.... 159MB ram seems like a odd RAM #. Does it have onboard video?07:22
hondjex11 is just a protocol07:22
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xedI'd cry without the gui. Thats how sad and pathetic I am.07:22
bob2Tweek: confusing people doesn't really help07:22
adamb10The command line rules07:22
vHintsweni'lno clue07:22
natofehola07:22
Tweekhondje i can't explain it or myself07:22
vHintswenno clue*07:22
vHintswenwell if it is really slow then i can always just get rid of it right?07:23
Cooner750Yes.07:23
vHintswenand put windows back on with a nice formated hard drive :D07:23
xedvHintswen: that doesn't help at all..07:23
vHintswenlol07:23
Cooner750well; if there isnt anything important on the computer; I'd like to hand the install help over to someone else; if possibe? I dont know squat about the install process07:24
xedno laughing at/with you! =(07:24
adamb10U shouldnt be afraid of the command line07:24
natofechao07:24
vHintsweni just wanna get it installed so i can check it out, only gonna b using it for web and chat anyway07:24
xedI'm not afraid of it, I'm just not used to it enough to completely get rid of the helpful gui.07:24
adamb10The command line is your friend.  You treat it well it treats you well07:24
vHintswenk...07:24
adamb10I just installed Gentoo I should know :p07:24
vHintswenanyone here wanna guide me through instaliation?07:25
toresbeew, gentoo :P07:25
Cooner750can someone provide a link to a install tutorial for vhintswen...07:25
Cooner750I dont know anything about installing :(...07:25
muahaak07:25
adamb10hmmm, does Debian have one on there site?07:25
xed"package nvidia-glx is not available, but is referred to by another package.  This may mean that the package ism issing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source      E: Package nvidia-glx has no installation candidate"07:25
adamb10 toresbe:  Gentoo is ok, easy to install07:26
toresbeadamb10: ...07:26
toresbeadamb10: BWAHAHAHAHAHA07:26
bob2xed: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood07:26
scottI'm getting this gconf error when I login. I got rid of ~/.gconf* and ~/.gnome* thinking that would fix it but it's still there. anyone seen this?07:26
muahu may have to add some sources in your apt-get sources.list file in order to download the gfx drivers...something i had to do07:26
bob2toresbe: it seems simple in the sense that the user doesn't have to know anything about linux07:26
adamb10 toresbe:  I was able to install it in 3 hours07:26
toresbeadamb10: bash.org/?46438507:26
xedbob2: if I could, I woult.07:26
bob2toresbe: they just type the instructions from the website07:26
xedwould*07:26
scottit's a big long error whining about not being able to write to the gconf database07:26
hondjegentoo is great, too bad most of its users don't know how to use it :(07:26
Cooner750vHintswen; what options is the installer giving you now?07:26
toresbebob2: hmm, that's true07:26
bob2xed: well, we can't help without it, sorry07:26
toresbebob2: but you very easily get stuck07:26
muahreinstall :)07:26
toresbebob2: like I did07:27
vHintswendefault, base system only and advanced07:27
xedbob2: I'm on my laptop.. I do not have access to the internets on the computer with ubuntu07:27
toresbehehe07:27
muah"the internets?"07:27
toresbe"the internets" :)07:27
xedthe internets!!!07:27
TweekUH OH07:27
hondjerumors abound07:27
xedI love GWB.07:27
muahhow many internets do u have?07:27
Cooner750hmm. maybe 'default'07:27
Tweek707:27
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vHintswenmaybe?!? lol07:27
toresbemuah: 4.244107:27
bob2come on folks07:27
xed"So I heard these rumors on the internets"07:27
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muahdaaam07:27
teresa_et07:27
vHintswenonly maybe?!?07:27
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xed"you know.. the inter netting in your swim shorts"07:27
vHintswen:)07:27
Cooner750vhintswen; what version of windows did the PC have on it?07:28
egg|sonicbash.org.... amazing site07:28
vHintswen98 o.o07:28
vHintswen98SE07:28
adamb10I <3 bash.org07:28
egg|sonic98?07:28
neighborleewhy exactly do some synaptic added program icons not display right in the Menu ?...although if you click properties on it it shows up fine ...;-)) ( and is there a fix for this by chance)07:28
vHintswenjust like this 1 did till comp tech put XP on :(07:28
vHintsweni like 98!07:28
adamb1098 sucks :p07:28
egg|sonic98,XP....what's it?07:29
vHintswenbetter than 3.107:29
Cooner750did it have XP? Hopefully the installer can format the drive; because it cannot install to NTFS07:29
vHintswenit's 9807:29
egg|sonicdos 3.1?07:29
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muah3.51 rawked07:29
Cooner750ok; whew07:29
vHintswenit's always had 98 that 1...07:29
bob2neighborlee: the packages didn';t register themselves in the menu07:29
toresbebash.org is the world's greatest timewaster <307:29
Cooner750that means that hopefully it's in FAT32 format07:29
vHintswenyeah it is :D07:29
bob2neighborlee: if you use the menu editor "smeg", you can add them yourselves07:29
neighborleedont blame you...without alot of ram XP is resource pig..even with it its not fun ..;-)07:29
vHintswenthere's something i do know07:29
egg|sonicFAT12?07:29
vHintswenFAT607:30
neighborleebob2, ah ok07:30
Cooner750FAT16? FAT8. lol07:30
vHintswenlol so i can go default?07:30
vHintswenit's actually SKINNY6407:30
egg|sonic12 -> 16 -> 32 ?07:30
Cooner750anybody? Is the default the main install option. (I need help here)07:30
vHintswenlol07:30
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toresbehttp://bash.org/?515496  hahaha07:30
vHintswenu mean i need help here :P07:30
bob2Cooner750: on the install cd? yes.07:30
vHintswen.bash07:30
vHintswenoops07:31
egg|sonicyou can edit fat by hand ^^07:31
xedgetting the internets on this comptuer is not going to be teh fun =(07:31
vHintswenu can edit skinny by fat07:31
egg|sonic...07:31
Cooner750a nice joke... "Cannot read FAT record; try the SKINNY one?"07:31
toresbeheh07:31
vHintswenlol07:31
vHintswenEAT=FAT07:32
adamb10lol07:32
toresbeA bit walks into a bar and orders a beer07:32
toresbeno, a byte07:32
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toresbea byte walks into a bar07:32
toresbeBartender asks, "What's wrong?"07:32
egg|sonic(NSA did)07:32
nezacan anyone recomend a ftp server software07:32
toresbeThe byte sighs and says "parity error"07:32
vHintsweno.o07:32
toresbeBartender replies, "Yeah, I thought you looked a bit off"07:32
muahLOL07:33
Cooner750lol07:33
vHintswenmaybe i shuld go turn that comp's screen off...07:33
vHintswenSCREEN BURN!07:33
Cooner750I'd go ahead and select default and see what happens.07:33
vHintsweni'm gonna have "UBUNTU" on my screen forever07:33
adamb10lol07:33
vHintswenk07:33
egg|sonicw hat 's m #$5ater ?07:33
Cooner750let me set a disclaimer though... I'm not responsible for the data on that drive :)07:33
egg|sonicmy c o nsoel is  so mething wrong$%^07:34
vHintswenSHIT! it's loading ubuntu!07:34
adamb10hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is07:34
egg|sonic^^ joke07:34
vHintswenold!07:34
egg|sonic...07:34
adamb10Still funny07:34
vHintswenif anything happens to my data... i'm alright with that07:34
Cooner750vhintswen; what happens after you selected default?07:34
vHintswenas long as i can get windows back on there...07:34
muahyour data will be happier07:34
vHintswenloading some stuff from cd...07:34
Cooner750vhintswen; do you have a 98 install cd?07:34
muahtorrent...?07:35
muah:D07:35
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Cooner750lol07:35
spike.cl07:35
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vHintswenchoose language07:35
vHintswen... choose location...07:35
vHintswenumm somewhere07:35
Cooner750....07:35
vHintswenin the bin maybe lol07:35
muahget a mac already07:35
vHintswenm sis has a mac :D07:35
Cooner750did it even want to format the drive?07:35
egg|sonicintel mac?07:36
vHintswennot yet...07:36
Cooner750Macs are nice. I have a mac mini07:36
hondjevHintswen: if you don't like ubuntu, you'll have to dig that windows CD up07:36
adamb10Macs kick ass07:36
vHintswenApply Mac07:36
hondjeI have a mini mac, and it needs to go to the shop AGAIN07:36
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Cooner750hondje; what's wrong with it?07:36
hondjemac quality is such a myth07:36
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egg|sonicMAC WILL DIE07:36
muahfriggin ibook died...flaw w/ video chip solder I've read...no repair07:36
hondjeCooner750: CPU needs replaced07:36
hondjeThey already replaced the logic board07:36
vHintswen...select keyboard layout...07:36
Cooner750hondje; that's a rare issue07:36
muahchinese07:37
vHintswen... decting hardware...07:37
egg|sonic?07:37
muahraid 1107:37
Cooner750vhintswen; self explainitory.....07:37
vHintswenno it's not07:37
vHintswenwhat's decting mean?07:37
ninwaIt's detecting your hardware.07:37
hondjeCooner750: crappy logic board caused CPU to overheat waaay too much, now it randomly locks up, which indicates dying CPU to me07:37
vHintswenlol07:37
muahit's watching u07:37
vHintswenif you say so...07:37
r0degg|sonic, theirs no way. the mac nuts will never stop buying. no matter how crazy the price07:37
ninwaYou can't read, apparently.07:37
xozhondje: we have 7 macs here and didn't have problem for 2 years. is this a myth?07:37
Cooner750vhintswen; I hope you can find that windows cd if you dont like ubuntu. but you should :)07:37
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vHintswenwhat's "FATAL ERROR!" mean07:38
egg|sonicindeed07:38
muahcall 911!07:38
vHintswenfound 98 CD :D07:38
hondjexoz: No, but it's not any better than 7 comperably priced HPs, or other OEMs07:38
muahyou are having a heart attack07:38
Cooner750vhintswen: you're joking; right?07:38
vHintswen911? from australia?07:38
egg|sonic90% of people are ...07:38
vHintswenno07:38
vHintswenseriously what's "FATAL ERROR!" mean07:38
Cooner750? does it say anything about the fatal error?07:38
Cooner750any log message?07:38
r0dand yet its only 5% of the market07:38
vHintswenno just says "FATAL ERROR!"07:38
xozhondje: yeah, you need statistics to prove... not just a single bad experience.07:39
ninwaOi wei.07:39
Cooner750any options? Abort; Retry?07:39
egg|sonicoh 5% of people are ...07:39
vHintswenno07:39
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vHintswenwell... yes07:39
ninwaCooner750, Bad Command or Filename?07:39
hondjeI have multiple bad experiences, and I deal with lots of different platforms07:39
vHintswen[Ok] 07:39
egg|sonicbrain damage?07:39
hondjeThough my B&W is still kicking along07:39
Cooner750vhintswen; just hit OK and cross you're fingers07:39
vHintswenand...07:39
ninwaSound advice.07:39
vHintswen[Accept that your computer is stuffed] 07:39
r0dno, the computers out their07:40
Cooner750... will it still boot windows?07:40
r0dmarket share of the industry07:40
vHintswen<(morse)Cooner750> swillitstillbootwindows?07:40
adamb10<@David> All of these kernel panics make this computer more secure.07:40
adamb10<@David> The machine can't be hacked when it's down.07:40
egg|sonicCooner750:  please press "any" key07:40
adamb10I absolutley love bash.org07:40
r0dhaha07:40
ninwavHintswen, Did you check the "hardware supported" list in the Wiki before installing?07:40
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vHintswenwhere's the any key?07:40
Cooner750"Bad command or file name!" "Go stand in the corner"07:40
vHintswenthe what what on what what?07:40
muahwe've been had!07:40
egg|sonic^^||| a od joke07:40
vHintswenfatal error msg was from a VB program :P07:40
egg|sonicold07:41
vHintswensucked in07:41
adamb10No keyboard detected.  Press F1 to continue07:41
AmaranthvHintswen: Next to the 'Next' mouse button07:41
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muahscore 1 for vH!07:41
vHintswenhost name...07:41
ninwavHintswen, I know you're kidding with some of this, but mine was a serious question.07:41
cory_hello07:41
ninwacory_, Hello.07:41
cory_what is a good mpeg/avi viewer for linux?07:41
vHintswenno i didn't o.o07:41
ninwamplayer07:41
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vHintswenshit07:41
hondjexine07:41
ninwasudo apt-get install mplayer07:41
vHintsweni knew i was foregetting something07:41
xed_blehSo.. I fucked up the Pentium2's powersupply07:41
adamb10use ubuntu guide to install mplayer07:41
xed_blehMan, I'm so awesome..!07:41
cory_my synaptic package manager cannot find the dependencies it' needs to install mplayer07:41
Cooner750"Press any key.... oh no No NO not that one!"07:42
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muahyou need to update your sources.list file07:42
ninwaadamb10, Is that the guide that says "apt-get" [filename]  for EVERY entry? Seems redundant.07:42
adamb10SO I was trying to install Xorg on Debian the other day...07:42
cory_how do i update that :-x?07:42
egg|sonicCooner750:  ^_^|07:42
Amaranthcory_: Get marillat out of your sources.list07:42
cory_sudo apt-get update ?07:42
vHintswenErase drive or manually edit partitioning table?07:42
adamb10before I found out I can't07:42
vHintsweni can just erase right?07:42
Cooner750? can someone help vhintswen?07:42
muahthat'll update the sources in your file...you may need to add a couple sources to your list, then update07:42
ninwavHintswen, Yes.07:43
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vHintswenk07:43
ninwavHintswen, Keep in mind that it will erase all of your data.07:43
muahvH:  yes, definitely manually edit your partiition table...ur up to it07:43
vHintswen/meme kills Cooner750 for loss of data07:43
cory_how do i know what to add to my list?07:43
ninwamuah, Don't encourage him.07:43
muah:D07:43
ninwacory_, Are you in a window manager?07:43
Cooner750...............07:43
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cory_yes07:43
ninwa(gnome, kde, etc...)07:43
ninwaOkay, try running Synaptic, it's friendlier07:43
cory_gnome07:44
muahvH is messing w/ us07:44
cory_i did, and it can't get the dependencies it needs07:44
adamb10I prefer classic apt, has more power07:44
Cooner750vhintswen; what is it doing?07:44
vHintswen/me kills Cooner750 for loss of data07:44
hondjeclassic apt?07:44
hondjewhaaaat?07:44
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vHintswendam lol07:44
adamb10yeah, apt-get install07:44
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vHintswenwell it asked me if i wanted to make the changes(swap and something else)07:44
hondjeHow's that classic? :-/07:44
vHintswennow it's...07:44
muah...on fire07:44
adamb10It uses the command line :p07:45
Cooner750lol07:45
ninwacory_ try going into settings -> repositories, and add updates and security updates...07:45
vHintswenblue screen of death07:45
Cooner750"now it's.. on file"07:45
Cooner750on fire07:45
muahBSOD!!07:45
Cooner750f*ing keyboard07:45
vHintswenbut without the writing07:45
Cooner750brb07:45
vHintswenlol07:45
adamb10BSODS are the equivelent of a kernel panic only easier to deal with07:45
vHintswenit's the screen that's been there throughout the whole installiation but with no writing at all07:45
muahsome people go ubuntu to avoid BSOD...07:45
cory_ok07:45
ninwaperhaps those repositories will have the libs you need, otherwise manually install them (or try to find an installer), or try an alternative player as was mentioned Xine I think.07:45
ninwaim sure they use simliar deps though07:46
adamb10Kernel panics suck07:46
cory_can u tell me where i might find the settings -> repositories (sorry i'm kinda new to linux/ubuntu)07:46
ninwaso that would probably be redundant07:46
ninwasorry, in synaptic07:46
cory_ok thx07:46
vHintswenif it's formating it... how long would it take(roughly 20GB data)07:46
ninwaI'm new too, no worries.07:46
muahthe ubuntuforum is a wonderful resource, seriously...most answers are there07:46
ninwamuah, probably so07:46
Cooner750vhintswen; well. all it has to do is overwrite everything with zeros I think....07:46
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xed_pentiumIIHOO RAAAAY07:47
Cooner750??07:47
hondjevHintswen: takes like 2 minutes07:47
vHintswenInstalling Ubuntu07:47
xed_pentiumIII have gotten the internets onto the pentiumII07:47
ninwaxed_pentiumII, HUZZAH!07:47
hondjeCooner750: That's not formatting07:47
ninwaThe whole thing?07:47
xed_pentiumIIHOOHA!07:47
vHintswenPleese wait while we burn "UBUNTU" to your screen07:47
muahLOL07:47
Cooner750hondje; isn't that "overwriting" :p07:47
ninwavHintswen, Alright alright, you can quit trolling now ^^07:47
xed_pentiumIInow, where's bob2?07:47
muahvH rawks07:47
vHintswenlol k :D07:47
hondjeCooner750: That's 'shit, the feds are here!'07:47
vHintswensetup reminds my of dos...07:47
cory_ok, that didn't make a difference :(07:48
vHintswenomg all thoes cool dos games that i love!07:48
Cooner750DOS. The Disk Operating System. The best in the world........ not07:48
zythfreedos.org07:48
zythwoot07:48
Cooner750I consider DOS a sorry excuse for a command line07:48
ninwacory_, Ah, well if you added them correctly it would've given you access to more packages, I didn't know whether or not what you needed would be one of them. Sorry I couldn't help.07:48
ninwaPerhaps another person here can.07:48
adamb10Yeah I have a question.  Why do all os's start with a BS during setup and not a colorful on?07:48
xed_pentiumIIlets play a game called "who wants to help xed?"07:48
vHintswenoverkill<-- my favourite game, also the first game i ever played on PC07:48
muahBTW...back up your sources.list file before mucking w/ it07:48
egg|sonicDuck Operate System07:48
r0dCooner750, who uses DOS anyways07:48
ninwavHintswen, What type of game was it?07:48
xed_pentiumIIlets play a game called "who wants to help xed?"07:49
vHintswen$21 US(inc. postage) for full version thow :(07:49
r0dCooner750, besides is old. how can you compare07:49
vHintswenspace shooter07:49
cory_thx07:49
hondjeatc is a fun game when you're not in X07:49
Cooner750r0d; umm.... that computer that i have from the 80s that has a big red power switch and a 5 1/4 in. floppy drive :p07:49
ninwacory_, Did you try the Totem player, it should be installed with the base installation.07:49
vHintswenyoure a spaceship, gotta shoot enemies and stuff, survive...07:49
Cooner750A "XA"07:49
ninwavHintswen, Ever play commander keen?07:49
xed_pentiumIICommander Keen was a FUN game.07:50
xed_pentiumIII loved that game.07:50
ninwadefinitely :] 07:50
r0dCooner750,  what are you comparing it to?07:50
vHintsweni got that07:50
ninwaI have it on CD somewhere07:50
hackCommander Keen was so great07:50
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vHintsweni got the full version of it somewhere...07:50
xed_pentiumIIFull version?07:50
ninwahondje, Is that all the cli games?07:50
Cooner750r0d; i'm comparing it's command line (about all it is) to Linux's command line07:50
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vHintswenyeah07:50
Cooner750(Terminal)07:50
Amaranthblobwars is awesome07:50
hondjeninwa: lots of them, like atc and star trek07:50
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egg|sonicgcc- gentoo games collection07:50
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Cooner750and yes; DOS games are fun. That's what I sometimes use the old 80s computer for...07:50
ninwaWhat they need is the hithchikers guide to the galaxy game on linux cli, I bet its somewhere on the net07:51
egg|sonics gcc ggc07:51
ninwathat was an interesting...text adventure.07:51
vHintswenwho would think... a 15 yr old kid surrounded by all this technology would like 2d games better than 3d games07:51
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ninwavHintswen, Only 15?07:51
vHintswenyep :)07:51
r0dCooner750,  I'd agree with you. its just linux wasnt around in the 80's so it would be unfair to. Unix was better back then..:)07:51
vHintswenlong way to go till i'm your age :P07:51
ninwaCool, got two on me, 17 here. :)07:51
muahapple ] [07:51
hondjeshit, now I feel old07:51
ninwavHintswen, Not quite.07:51
Cooner750r0d; true :). Linux pretty much came from Unix07:52
vHintswenlol07:52
egg|sonicI like 1D games07:52
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xed_pentiumIII like chicken.07:52
ninwaegg|sonic, Those are the best. My favorite is "Dot"07:52
Cooner750i like pizza07:52
egg|sonic^^07:52
ninwaYou move up and down, dodging nothing, because dodging is impossible.07:52
vHintswenhow do u say linux?(ine-x or lynn-ux or lin-ux etc.)07:52
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xed_pentiumIICooner750, I don't know, chicken IS pretty damn good..07:52
hondjelynn-ux07:52
ninwaLin - ux.07:52
Cooner750Lin-ux07:52
ninwaYeah.07:52
vHintswenline-x07:52
Cooner750yes; i like chicked too07:52
Tweeki say, lynn-icks07:52
hondjeOnly PHBs say Line-x07:52
xed_pentiumIILin (as in Bin) - ux (as in tux)07:52
Cooner750line-x. lol07:53
buffbikedudequick poll: who's still using Ubuntu's default theme for Gnome? Personally, I dig the earth tones. But I've only been using Ubuntu for 2 weeks, so there is a chance my preferences could change.07:53
muahdefault07:53
ninwaI use some swuave blue one, who knows...07:53
Cooner750I'm using livecd; so it dosent really matter :p07:53
hondjebuffbikedude: default at work07:53
muahWindows XP theme07:53
Cooner750it gets lost anyways07:53
ninwaI don't mess with the themes too much.07:53
muahoh damn...i'm running XP!!07:53
egg|sonicbuffbikedude:  fvwm or xfce07:53
xed_pentiumIII'm using the "I need help with ubuntu" theme07:53
vHintswenlol07:53
vHintsweni running XP but not XP theme :P07:53
hondjeat home I use Amaranth w/ gartoon icons07:53
Cooner750muah: XP = Yuck... Windows = Yuck07:53
ninwaxed_pentiumII, shoot your question :] 07:53
muahcouldn't agree more cooner07:54
vHintsweni'll be using the "screen burn" theme07:54
Cooner750lol07:54
xed_pentiumIIninwa: how do i go about..ah damnit! i was talking to bob2..07:54
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Cooner750At least screen burn cant happen to LCD....07:54
vHintswenthat's the 1 that keeps "UBUNTU" ontop of everyting else, even when your computer's off!07:54
vHintswenwanna make a bet?07:54
ninwaNo.07:54
Cooner750?07:54
buffbikedudethanks all. just curious :)07:54
xed_pentiumIIdamnit.. now ..ah poop.07:54
vHintswensend me your screen and i'll send it back with U LOOSE! burnt on it07:54
Cooner750lol07:54
Tweekyes07:54
Tweeklcd burn easier07:55
ninwaI would've never guessed that you were fifteen. :o)07:55
Tweekalot easier07:55
egg|sonicubuntu! ubuntu! ubuntu!07:55
Cooner750really? I mustve got my computer things mixed up07:55
Cooner750I know CRT can really burn07:55
muahanyone running ubuntu as server?07:55
egg|sonicmad?07:55
ninwaI've never had a monitor burn on me.07:55
vHintswenubuntu comes with a web browser right?07:55
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hondjedefine server :p07:55
ninwavHintswen, Of course.07:55
vHintswenirc client?07:55
ninwaMozilla Firefox I believe.07:55
HrdwrBoBvHintswen: because they are not secured very well07:55
HrdwrBoB?07:55
ninwavHintswen, Xchat07:55
vHintswenooh i love firefox :D07:55
Cooner750I'm using Xchat now :D07:56
ninwavHintswen, It comes with quite a good base installation I thought.07:56
Cooner750yes; Firefox is the best-of the best07:56
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vHintswenit comes with xchat or i gotta get it07:56
ninwaI was impressed it fit on one cd07:56
JDahlmuah, canonical for one, I think07:56
ninwathen I remembered they were all binaries07:56
HrdwrBoB'loose' of course being the opposite of 'tight'07:56
xed_pentiumIIninwa: i need help with enabling the 3d support for my video card.07:56
vHintsweni'm actually thinking of getting BitchX for irc...07:56
egg|sonicfirefox is bad ass07:56
Cooner750who here; if anybody; that's using windows; uses IE?07:56
vHintswenjust cause of e name lol07:56
muahlost me07:56
ninwaxed_pentiumII, Which type of card?07:56
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vHintswennot me07:56
xed_pentiumIIGeForce2 MX 100 DDR/200 DDR07:56
ninwaI mean, which card, rather07:56
vHintswenIE SUX!07:56
xed_pentiumIIninwa: GeForce2 MX 100 DDR/200 DDR07:56
zshakespeareI don't use IE, but I am an MSN technician ;)07:56
ninwaxed_pentiumII, I think you may be in luck, doesn't nvidia provide an installation script for their drivers?07:57
Cooner750zshakespeare; ouch07:57
HrdwrBoBvHintswen: your powers of software review are astonishing07:57
bob2xed_pentiumII: paste it to #food07:57
lancer285can anyone help me w/ installing the official nvidia driversL07:57
xed_pentiumII#food07:57
vHintswenyep :D07:57
xed_pentiumIIbob2: what am I pasting in #food?07:57
egg|sonico.o07:57
HrdwrBoBlancer285: yes, BinaryDriverHowto on the wiki07:57
muahthe gfx install via apt-get took care of installing my nvidia 3d drivers07:57
vHintsweni know my game is better than halo 2 :D07:57
lancer285okay, thanks Bob07:57
bob2xed_pentiumII: /etc/apt/sources.list07:57
vHintsweneven thow no1 here would b able to play it even if i sent u the client07:57
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Cooner750I remember someone I know calling M$ tech support one time.... took 4 hours to get a answer07:57
HrdwrBoBno problem07:57
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vHintswenlol then the phone bill07:58
egg|soniclack $$$07:58
vHintswenthey charge $5US/minute?07:58
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zshakespearemost Microsoft techs don't know their ass from ahole in the ground07:58
ninwavHintswen, 2d or..?07:58
ninwavHintswen, I bet WineX could handle it :)07:58
Cooner750lol07:58
vHintswen2d07:58
ninwaEasy then.07:58
vHintswenof corse it's 2d!07:58
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vHintsweny would i make a 3d game?!?07:58
ninwaShoot me the client, I want to see.07:58
xed_pentiumIIbob2: pasted.07:58
vHintswenno :P07:58
xed_pentiumIIzshakespeare, I am a vegetarian, but I eat chicken...and beef.. and.. all other non-vegetarian food.07:58
egg|sonic$5 /min <- irc support ^^07:58
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vHintsweni'd give u dl link but i only got old version on my site07:58
muahk, xed...07:59
Cooner750vHintswen: where is is along the install process?07:59
bob2xed_pentiumII: er, #flood07:59
ninwaxed_pentiumII, I'm ap eace activist, but I kill people only when they get on my nerves.07:59
xed_pentiumIImuah: ...?07:59
vHintswenold version DEFINATLY doesn't work07:59
ninwapeace*07:59
muahvegan?07:59
xed_pentiumIII posted in FOOD! damnit! FOOD!07:59
vHintswenlemmi check...07:59
Cooner750lol07:59
ninwaI think he meant flood.07:59
xed_pentiumIINow I'm hungry!07:59
Cooner750screen burn07:59
vHintswen68%07:59
lancer285HrdwrBob are those nvidia drivers from apt-get the correct, up to date drivers from nvidia??07:59
vHintswenyeah i gonna have a blue screen burnt on it...07:59
HrdwrBoBlancer285: yes07:59
bob2xed_pentiumII: wow, warty, old skool07:59
Cooner75068%? must be a decent CD drive08:00
zshakespearenow for the reason i am here: if I plug in my webcam (it shows as an audio device) I get no sound. if I unplug it and reboot it goes thru my NForce card. How do I make the NForce card the default08:00
muahgah, i should have written it all down08:00
ninwavHintswen, What the installer doesn't predict is the amount of time you will spend debugging.08:00
muahi believe so tho08:00
ninwaSo add about five hours to the time.08:00
vHintswendecent?08:00
lancer285okay, thnx08:00
vHintswenit's OLD08:00
vHintswenreally really really old!08:00
egg|sonic?08:00
xed_pentiumIIbob2: I'm sorry :(08:00
bob2xed_pentiumII: eh?08:00
Cooner750vhintswen; what speed does it say on the front.... "1x" lol08:00
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vHintswenlol maybe i shuld put it in this comp...08:00
vHintswencd shattered in this 1 :(08:00
xed_pentiumIIbob2: I don't know.. I'm confused.  I pasted and now I sit.08:00
vHintswennow i gotta use externam dvd burner for everything08:00
bob2xed_pentiumII: uncomment the 3 and 4th lines08:00
nekohayois it planned to limit the cpu usage from copying files (from drives or cdroms) in breezy or something?08:00
Cooner750a CD shattered? must've been cracked08:00
bob2your attitude is rather odd08:00
vHintswenyeah08:01
bob2nekohayo: no08:01
Cooner750slightly cracked or off balance08:01
vHintswenburnt copy of a game08:01
xed_pentiumIIbob2: done08:01
nekohayowth no ? XD08:01
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vHintsweni don't trust originals so i use copies08:01
nekohayonot*08:01
vHintsweni've got 3 copies of sim tower!08:01
bob2xed_pentiumII: now run "sudo apt-get update" and follow the howto again08:01
egg|sonicumm,good tech08:01
vHintswenand then i realised u don't need cd in to play o.o08:01
Cooner750vhintswen; I make copies so I dont have to damage the origionals08:01
bob2nekohayo: because it's very hard and silly08:01
xed_pentiumIIbob2: fun time!08:01
bob2nekohayo: just enable dma on your drives08:01
xed_pentiumIIbob2: can you repaste the howto link again please?08:02
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r0dbob2,  you know a good url to some more servers for my sources.list08:02
vHintsweni would have made a copy of TS2:U but can't... had to get mini-image instead...08:02
bob2I'm not even sure if it would be possible to do cpu rlimits in the kernel08:02
nekohayobob2, isn't that a default-activated?08:02
bob2r0d: why do you want to add more?08:02
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bob2xed_pentiumII: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:02
bob2nekohayo: depends if the kernel thinks your chipset/drive are broken08:02
r0dbob2: because theirs packages that come w/ the ones on their08:02
xed_pentiumIIweeeeeee look at it go08:02
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bob2nekohayo: it's very careful to only enable it on known-good ones08:02
r0d*dont08:02
bob2r0d: e.g.?08:02
Cooner750vhintswen; like me take a guess at what % it's at..... uh...... 87?08:02
vHintswencopying remaining packages to disk...08:03
vHintswenfinished install :P08:03
Cooner750let's cross our fingers and see if it boots :)08:03
r0dbob2,  funny thing is, I dont remember of the top my head. one i know was a dvd backup program08:03
vHintswenu not v good at guessing08:03
vHintswen"FATAL ERROR!"08:03
vHintswenlol08:03
bob2r0d: have you enabled the universe repository?08:03
Cooner750again; lol08:03
Cooner750Try OK again08:03
r0dbob2,  yep08:03
egg|sonicvHintswen:  good ob08:04
egg|sonicvHintswen:  good job08:04
vHintswenshit that scared me08:04
vHintsweni went to check it, black screen08:04
r0dbob2,  is their a good url to some more servers?08:04
Cooner750wow. it's 2:04 AM here :)08:04
vHintswenforegot i turned off monitor lol08:04
Cooner750lol08:04
ninwaCooner750, Here too.08:04
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bob2r0d: no, I would not trust random external repositories08:04
Cooner750ninwa; where are you located?08:04
Cooner750If you dont mind me asking..08:04
ninwaOutside Detroit, Michigan08:04
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xed_pentiumIII can hear my Pentium II crying..08:05
Cooner750I'm in the south-west tip of Ohio. Reading, OH (Hamilton county; Cincinnati)08:05
hondjeWOW sells in Michigan, and I can't get it?08:05
xed_pentiumIIIt'08:05
xed_pentiumIIIt's .. CRYING08:05
ninwaAh, cool. I used to live in Columbus, OH08:05
ninwahondje, They don't sell all over.08:05
Cooner750I can here a very noisy CD drive whenever I click something.... :/08:05
ninwaWhen I was in Ann Arbor I could only get comcast, for example.08:05
zshakespeareHow do I make it use my soundcard as my main audio device instead of my webcam?08:05
codemasternoobhow do i install a .tar.gz file after i download it?08:05
hondjeYeah, but I live in Colorado, that half defines 'West'08:05
ninwaHaha08:06
ninwaNice.08:06
Cooner750lol08:06
Cooner750half-defines08:06
hondjewell, can't forget montana ;-)08:06
Cooner750You have mountain time; hondje?08:06
bob2zshakespeare: blacklist the webcam module08:06
hondjeyes08:06
bob2codemasternoob: you unpack and read the instructions08:06
hondje-7 time here08:06
bob2codemasternoob: tar -zxf foo.tar.gz08:06
Cooner750so it's what; 12:00 something there?08:06
bob2codemasternoob: what is it?08:06
hondje000608:06
nekohayothanks bob208:06
codemasternoobbob2 it is flashplayer 708:06
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codemasternoobwhere does it need to be extracted to?08:07
Cooner750lol. wow the fan in this laptop is LOUD08:07
vHintswenbbl eating :D08:07
Cooner750k08:07
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bob2zshakespeare: please don't /msg me08:07
Cooner750it's a Toshiba 1625CDT08:07
bob2codemasternoob: it has no instructions?08:07
xed_pentiumIIhey.. does anyone know if there's something I can use to connect a coaxial cable to an svideo port?08:07
ninwacodemasternoob, It shouldn't matter where it's extracted to, extract it and read the README or INSTALl instructions.08:07
Cooner750like a RF cable or Composite video?08:07
ninwaI venture to bet its an automated installe.r08:07
jamesXuruoHello, Does anybody know how to disable Ctrl+Alt+F1~6 in Linux?08:08
hondjejamesXuruo: /etc/inittab08:08
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codemasternoobkk thanks bob2 and ninwa08:08
hondjeBut why you'd want to do that is probably an interesting answer08:08
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bob2jamesXuruo: explain what you mean08:08
Cooner750xed_pentiumII; like a RF cable; or composite video (that cable that has a yellow end)?08:08
Cooner750RF being cable line type08:08
bob2jamesXuruo: you want to not let people switch out of X? you don't want to run tty's?08:08
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ninwaI think he wants the hotkeys to not work. So no switching out of X.08:09
xed_pentiumIICooner750, What be this .. RF cable you speak of?08:09
_rev_evening all, how is everyone tonight?08:09
jamesXuruoI don't want others switch out of X08:09
Cooner750RF is like that cable line that comes through the wall and connected to the... cable box or TV...08:09
xed_pentiumIICooner750, I thought there might be some sort of converter.... which I can plug in the coaxial ..into and plug the svideo into that converter..08:09
xed_pentiumIICooner750, I'm a wishful thinker08:09
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Cooner750Really old TVs like Zenith System IIIs only had RF inputs08:10
ilucivwhat is the command for running "scriptfilename.sh" file08:10
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bob2jamesXuruo: man xorg.conf, DontVTSwitch is the option you want08:10
ninwailuciv,  ./08:10
xed_pentiumIICooner750, I'm not old enough to remember what you speak of.08:10
Tweekdo 32bit ubuntu isos work on 64bit processors?08:10
ninwa./[file] 08:10
ilucivits says ./ is a directory08:10
ninwano space08:10
jamesXuruoThx, if I use XFree86?08:10
Cooner750zenith system IIIs where just really old TVs (about 22 years ago)08:10
_rev_./deply.sh for exampel08:10
bob2Tweek: if you mean "Will the i386 Ubuntu cd work on an amd64 machine?", yes.08:10
Tweekwill it work like a 32bit machine?08:10
Cooner750anyway; You probably want to switch the s-video to composite (like that one with the yellow end on like; say a Playstation 2)08:11
Cooner750?08:11
ninwamake sure the file is executable, chmod +x [filename]  if you need to make it so. Generally it probably is to begin with though.08:11
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bob2Tweek: if you mean "i386" where yo usay "32bit", please say so08:11
bob2they're not the same thing08:11
Tweekwill it work like an i386 machine?08:11
RobNychow would ubuntu run on my celeron 633mhz 256mb pc ?08:11
bob2yes08:11
RobNycis 512mb swap enough ?08:11
Cooner750I'm not old enough to remember Zenith IIIs; but I have one so I know what it's like.08:12
ninwaRobNyc, It would run fine.08:12
xed_pentiumIICooner750, negative. I need to get TV onto this Pentium II as well..08:12
bob2an amd64 can work just like a i38608:12
ninwaversion me if you'd like, I'm on a 577Mhz PIII 512 MB ram08:12
bob2RobNyc: should be enough08:12
ninwaand Ubuntu runs beautifuly08:12
Tweekbob2, 100% like an i386? so i am not dissapointed when i try :|08:12
xed_pentiumIICooner750, this graphics card has an svideo port, so I'm thinking of a way to connect the cable directly to the card and get TV on to it.08:12
Cooner750xed_pentiumIII, could you /msg me. It's a little congested here08:12
RobNycthanks08:12
RobNycninwa, u got 512mb of ram i got 256mb =\08:12
bob2Tweek: if you mean "Will it have all the software from the i386 port available?", then yes, since you ARE installing the i386 port.08:12
ilucivninwa it just give me a new command prompt08:12
Tweekok08:13
bob2if you install the amd64 port, it will ru nfaster, but you can't run some proprietary junk08:13
_rev_does anyone know if mod_rewrite is enabled on the default ubuntu apache2 installation?08:13
ninwailuciv, I answered your question, that's how you run shellscripts.08:13
ninwaWhat the shellscript does, is another matter :)08:13
Tweeki'm running ubuntu's 64bit version now08:13
ninwaRobNyc, True enough, I think it'll be fine though.08:13
Tweekand it :<08:13
iluciv:)08:13
Amaranth_rev_: Try it and see?08:13
RobNycninwa, hope so :)08:13
ninwaRobNyc, Maybe try the livecd first?08:13
bob2Tweek: you mean "amd64" version08:13
ilucivwell it did work now it doesn't I don't get it08:13
RobNycninwa, already installed lol08:13
bob2Tweek: and yes, some binary-only crap won't work on it08:13
codemasternoobok readme says "From the command line, type ./flashplayer-installer to run the installer."  i tried tat and terminal says no such directory or file08:14
RobNycLinux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-686 #1 Tue Jun 7 09:00:32 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux08:14
ninwahah :)08:14
bob2Tweek: if you find other problems (like things crashing), please do file bugs08:14
_rev_Amaranth, im having problems gettign it working and wanted to ask the dumb question first :] 08:14
RobNycinstalled the i686 kernel08:14
RobNycbut it seems the i386 maybe runs faster08:14
Tweekbob2, it is just that08:14
pepsihow do i tell how much ram i have?08:14
RobNyci mean pc runs faster with i386 2.6.10 maybe than the i686 2.6.10 ?08:14
Tweeki can't get my floppy drive working, i have issues with almost every neccesary app08:14
ninwacodemasternoob, Make sure you're in the directory that you extracted flahsplayer to.08:14
ninwals to list the files and what directory you're currently in08:14
bob2Tweek: please do file bugs then08:14
Cooner750is vhintswen back yet?08:14
codemasternoobwell please tell me how to do that i extracted to the desktop.. i have been running linux 2 hours please remember that08:15
Tweekbob2,08:15
ninwaCooner750, I'm sure you'll hear him.08:15
ninwacodemasternoob, cd ~/Desktop08:15
Tweeki don't think they're errors08:15
Tweeki just think it has issues :\08:15
ninwacodemasternoob, It's alright, gotta start somewhere.08:15
KyynaraIf I have a .zip file with older pre-compiled binaries of libpng, is it just to extract it in the right folders, or should I do something else also?08:15
RobNycanyone seen difference between 2.6.10-i386 and 2.6.10-i686 ?08:15
Cooner750ninwa: k08:15
bob2Kyynara: do not install libraries from .zip files08:16
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crimsunRobNyc: the latter has highmem support, for starters08:16
lancer285does multithreading count as 'dual processors for  linux-686-smp?08:16
_rev_lancer285, yes08:16
vHintswenback08:16
lancer285cool,08:16
vHintswenwith a problem...08:16
ninwacodemasternoob, If you extracted it it's probably in a new folder.08:16
vHintswenwon't let me enter anything as password08:17
bob2lancer285: if you mean "hyperthreading", yeah08:17
RobNycjust wondering seems like with i386 ubuntu runs faster than with i686 , my celeron is a i686 so hmm08:17
lancer285bob2 yeah, sorry (:08:17
ninwaSo you'll have to traverse into it first, and then run ./flash-installer ... but seeing as you knew the name of the installer file, I bet you're already there08:17
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Cooner750vhintswen.... is it the default 'ubuntu' user?08:17
ninwacodemasternoob, Did you know that you could install it using a package manager REAL easy, though? :)08:17
vHintswen?08:18
Cooner750there is usually a default user created called ubuntu. It also has a default password; which I do not know; does anybody on here know it?08:19
vHintswenit asked me to enter full name of person using comp, username and a password08:19
ninwacodemasternoob, At the command prompt, make sure you're root, and type apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla (assuming you need it for Mozilla)08:19
jamesXuruobob2, if my x is xfree86, does it also contain such item like DontVTSwitch?08:19
Cooner750vhintswen; is this in setup?08:19
vHintswenyeah08:19
vHintswenafter it copied all the files08:19
bob2jamesXuruo: yes08:19
_rev_Cooner750, i would hope its a random default password08:19
codemasternoobwell i tried that first but of course it was not extracted yet install is complete and it told me to remove a file from components directory08:19
RobNycwhy hoary has xchat 2.4.1 =\08:19
_rev_otherwise that could be sloppy08:19
RobNycno ubuntu(debian sid) ?08:20
RobNycwith xchat 2.4.3 or things more up to date08:20
jamesXuruothx, i will try to find it out!!thx very much.08:20
jamesXuruobob2, could you please tell me which file ?08:20
Cooner750vhintswen; tried leaving the password field blank?08:20
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ninwavHintswen, Oh boy.08:20
bob2jamesXuruo: /etc/X11/XF86Config-408:20
ninwaIt shouldnt've let you do that, hehe.08:20
bob2RobNyc: because that's what the available version was at freeze time 4 months ago?08:21
_rev_wow i must say ububtu is NICE... everything so far on my laptop is working flawlessly, including my cheap as linksys wifi card08:21
RobNycbob2, true08:21
RobNyc=X08:22
codemasternoobhow do i browse the components folder in moxilla?08:22
RobNycStable distros .. Mandriva, Fedora, Suse, Ubuntu,08:22
RobNyci get it08:22
vHintswen...?08:22
ninwa_rev_, Glad your wifi card is working out of the box :)(08:22
ninwaI had to use ndisswrapper for mine, but I love ubuntu also08:23
Cooner750vhintswen; what is it doing? asking? etc...08:23
_rev_ninwa, its freaking amazing, im speachless08:23
ninwa_rev_, I wasn't THAT excited08:23
ninwabut cool! :)08:23
vHintswenit wants me to enter the full name of person using computer, a username and a password. it won't let me type in the password bit08:23
ninwaIt's great to enjoy the software you use, why run something you don't.08:23
_rev_hehe well im a pretty big noob so im still easily amused08:23
ninwaAs Ubuntu's motto is08:23
ninwa"Linux for Human Beings"08:24
Cooner750vHintswen; the password area is greyed out?08:24
vHintswenno08:24
_rev_i mean ive gotten gentoo installed and working a few times, so im not totally clueless, but im still a windows user at heart for now08:24
ninwaAnyone want to play me in Network Gnibbles? :)08:24
vHintswenit looks the same as the others but when i try type nothing happens08:24
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_rev_(as soon as bliz releases a linux WorldofWarcraft client ill drop windows :P )08:25
spiderrrere08:25
Cooner750vhintswen; have you tried just name and username08:25
vHintswenit asks me for password08:25
codemasternoobplease tell me how to navigate to he .mozilla folder in file browser08:25
_rev_but i do python and php dev work for a living so its kinda ironic08:25
vHintsweni tried leaving it blank and it says" it's blank try again" or something like that08:25
ninwa_rev_, Hehe, what server do you play on?08:25
ninwa<- level 60 rogue undead, Azgalor08:26
ninwa;] 08:26
_rev_ninwa, 58 night elf rogue, crushridge08:26
ninwaawesome08:26
ninwaghostshrouds look funny on Night Elfs though, ears pop right through :p08:27
_rev_would be dinging 59 tonight but im at my parents house for fathersday weekend08:27
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_rev_yeah they do, and i still want one08:27
ninwaI hate when that happens08:27
ninwaDarn families!08:27
shrayso word up holla back08:27
shraywhats going on mah buntu's08:27
ninwaHopefully you have better luck than me, took like 20 runs in BRD to get mine.08:27
_rev_werd08:27
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shrayda raadtzer is in the hizzouseeee08:27
shrayso whats up with my 'buntu08:28
vHintswengot it :D it don't show you that you've entered anything when typing password08:28
vHintswentesting network or something now...08:28
ninwaDoes linux have a "Worms Armmegeddan"-ish game? I wonder.08:28
shrayi was chillin and this shizzle starts freekin outttt08:28
_rev_my problem is i have like 8 characters, so i take forever to level anything08:28
shrayI was like what the fugg is up with this piece up in here08:28
ninwa_rev_, Hehe, I only have one. :)08:28
shraymah buntu was wylin out08:28
codemasternoobis there an official help room for ubuntu anywhere?08:29
shrayI was like KDE, STFU YOU BITCH and DO AS I SAY08:29
ninwaI tried all the classes out in closed beta, decided on rogue.08:29
Cooner750shray; KDE is a pain08:29
shrayCooner750; you got some other bling i can switchover to?08:29
ninwaMy step-brother has that problem, he must have 8 level 30 characters08:29
_rev_ninwa, 58rogue, 48pally, 30priest, 24hunter, 22druid, and i started a warrior last night08:29
shrayi need that dirty sumthin sumthin08:29
ninwa_rev_, Jesus, haha08:29
crimsunlet's keep the desktop wars outside, please.08:29
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shraywe aint warrin son08:30
shraywe just discussin08:30
shrayno instigatin happenin hurr08:30
ninwaYou dont need to type out your accent.08:30
ninwaWe can just imagine it...08:30
codemasternoobi know out of all of tese people, someone can tell me how to find the programs part of file browser08:30
cdcin Ubuntu is the concept of su removed?08:30
_rev_codemasternoob, go to a console08:30
shraymah suid is ZERO08:30
shrayZEE ROE08:30
_rev_codemasternoob, type updatedb08:30
ninwaheh08:30
crimsuncdc: removed, no.08:30
_rev_and wait a sec08:30
ninwasu is definitely not removed ;)08:31
_rev_codemasternoob, lemme know when the command is done runnin08:31
cdccrimsun, i read something about this sudo08:31
_rev_thats updating your locate database08:31
_rev_youll see why in a sec08:31
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crimsuncdc: sudo is the encouraged tool08:31
shrayso whats the deal with buntu and raadt08:31
shraywhat y'all think about the bsd news08:32
codemasternoobupdateb: command not found08:32
shrayand that mofugga named forbes08:32
crimsuncdc: there's a faq on the Ubuntu wiki regarding 'root'08:32
_rev_updatedb08:32
ninwaAnyone here order ubuntu on cd? Ordered mine a few days ago, wondering about how long it takes.08:32
cdccrimsun, i ve got some packs of Ubuntu 5.0.4 CDS just deciding whether to go for it or no i am currently using Sarge08:32
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cdccrimsun, is Ubuntu 5.0.4 better than Sarge .08:32
crimsuncdc: give Ubuntu a spin08:32
_rev_update db <- as one word08:32
crimsuncdc: "better" is highly subjective; try it yourself08:32
thechitowncubsDoes anyone know where i can get the ubuntu artwork color palettes, and stuff08:33
hondjeshray: de Raadt is hating because *BSD is dying08:33
thechitowncubsthe wiki upgrade broke a lot of stuff08:33
shrayhondje: are you kidding me08:33
cdccrimsun,coz what i run presently(sarge) is the one that i installed one year back08:33
shraythat fly cat speaks the truths man08:33
shrayhe Is a RADICAL08:33
hondjeshray: The handwriting is on the wall, man08:33
shraybuntu needs to go that way08:33
shraywhats wrong wichu fool, FREE YOUR MIND08:33
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Cooner750shray; didnt ubuntu come with Gnome?08:34
_rev_yeah kubuntu is the kde distro08:35
shrayCooner750 I tried that piece but all hell came loose and I got kbuntu08:35
shrayhells yeah08:35
shrayiwas like wtf is going on with this booty08:35
Cooner750oh.... I've never used KDE except in Slax; and it sucked.... :(08:35
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shrayso how many of yall like Kerry08:35
cdcis it possible to install KDE in ubuntu later on ?08:35
shrayand how many of yall like bush08:36
_rev_i used kde back when i used mandrake, till i used gentoo and had to get it compiled lol08:36
hondjecdc: yes08:36
crimsuncdc: yes, install kubuntu-desktop08:36
cdccan i make Ubuntu customizable one ?08:36
thechitowncubshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork08:36
thechitowncubsnone of the linux to the logos or palettes work08:36
shraybecause I think yall kerry folk are stupiid. STUPID I TELL YA08:36
cdci am very much used to Sarge so i need the same functionality in fact :-08:36
cdccrimsun, in that case let me give Ubuntu a try and will be back08:36
cdcon with that08:36
cdclets see how it goes :-)08:36
menghow do you restore grub?08:36
thechitowncubsmeng08:37
_rev_shray, spoken like a true bush supporter08:37
thechitowncubswhat is wrong?08:37
mengi nuked my bootloader after reinstalling windows xp08:37
thechitowncubssudo grub-install hd0,008:37
thechitowncubsi just did that08:37
mengi can't access my ubuntu08:37
thechitowncubsdo what i said but substitute the hd0,0 with your hd and partition number08:38
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mengi can't access Ubuntu at all, unless i use a live cd08:38
thechitowncubsGotcha08:38
thechitowncubsHere's what you have to do08:38
thechitowncubsboot up the install cd08:39
thechitowncubsgo through a normal install until the partition step, then hit go back and then select execute a shell, from there, mount your partition and then chroot into it08:39
thechitowncubsdo you understand that?08:39
thechitowncubsor do i have to go into more depth?08:39
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crimsungive him a walk-through, thechitowncubs08:40
jamesXuruoThx!! bob2, i think i know how to do it. thx!!08:40
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lancer285can someone help me w/ my sound problem? when I run Music Player, it says that the device is in use08:40
xed_liveubuntuCooner750, hooraaaa08:40
menga walk though would be nice08:40
jamesXuruoyou may try to use: fuser /dev/dsp08:40
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lancer285okay08:40
jamesXuruoand check who is use /dev/dsp08:40
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lancer285/dev/dsp:             833508:41
lancer285that's what came back08:41
lancer285is that the pid?08:41
jamesXuruops -ef |grep 8335, you can know which process08:41
jamesXuruoyes08:41
lancer2851000      8335     1  0 00:20 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps08:41
lancer285should I just kill that process?08:42
jamesXuruook , do you use gnome or kde?08:42
lancer285gnome08:42
thechitowncubsTo mount a partition once you are successfully in the shell, you have to make a directory, for example: mkdir /mnt/ubuntu, then mount your root partition, assuming its /dev/hda1, do mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt./ubuntu, then after that chroot into that directory with this command: chroot /mnt/ubuntu, from there you can do grub-install hd0,0 (assuming /dev/hda1 is the partition ubuntu is on)08:42
jamesXuruognome is using esd...08:42
thechitowncubswrite it down :)08:42
lancer285ah ha08:42
jamesXuruoyou may start some program playing sound.08:42
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kiwibirdum anyone know when firefox gets updated on hoary? seems weird that it's not on 1.0.4, thought the newer versions would be more secure..08:42
jamesXuruocheck it.08:42
crimsunlancer285: make sure gstreamer is configured to use esd for output: System>Preferences>Multimedia Systems Selector>Default audio sink>Esound08:43
mengis there any difference with SATA drives?08:43
thechitowncubsyes08:43
pythonpadawanthechitowncubs, adding that to my cheatsheet, thx bro08:43
thechitowncubsi believe its /dev/sda108:43
dr_willisthe 1.0.3 versun has the security updates i think kiwibird   but for some reason they havent gotten the verison # bumpped up.. not sure what the whole story is.08:43
thechitowncubshehe, no problem python08:43
kiwibirdoki.. humf.. =P08:44
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mengthechitowncubs: is it possible under sata to place the bootloader somewhere else?08:44
lancer285okay, that works, but how do I make gnome use oss or alsa?08:44
thechitowncubsmeng: what do you mean, and what is your goal?08:44
crimsunkiwibird: it's not 1.0.4, because it doesn't have the non-security patches applied. 1.0.2 + security fixes is closer to its version.08:45
mengi was thinking if the next time i reinstall windows, so i don't remove my bootloader08:45
lancer285I'm trying to get Cedega to work, and the sound only uses oss or alsa08:45
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cory_what program do ya'll use to burn audio cds?08:45
jamesXuruognome has its own sound architect. esd is besed on alsa or oss.08:45
vinuxgnome-baker cory_08:45
vHintswenstage 1 compleet08:45
lancer285so it should all work together?08:45
vHintswenremove cd and reboot...08:45
jamesXuruoso, if you want to use alsa, you may try alsaconf, it may help you .08:45
thechitowncubsmeng: not exactly sure, but I think you can set your bios to decide which hard drive to boot off of thus allowing you to put it on different hard drive08:46
thechitowncubss08:46
cory_does that come with gnome vinux?08:46
lancer285okay thanks jamesX08:46
mengthanks, would try it out08:46
vHintswenhow long will stae 2 take aprox?08:46
jamesXuruoapt-cache search alsaconf, you may know how to deal with it.08:46
Tychehow would I insntall pw if I do not have it?08:46
vinuxcory_, no you have to apt-get it08:46
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microhaxoguys, can i use the package manager to update my kernel?08:46
vinuxcory_, I think it's gnomebaker one word08:46
Tychehow can I install apt-get on a machine that doesn't have it?08:46
cory_ok thx08:46
vinuxcory_, np08:47
thechitowncubsmicrohaxo: what up dude, I saw you on neowin08:47
kiwibirdah ok08:47
thechitowncubsmicrohaxo: and yes you can use it to update your kernel08:47
microhaxoyea i kno08:47
microhaxolol08:47
microhaxosearch08:47
microhaxokernel?08:47
thechitowncubsbut make sure install the correct libc608:47
microhaxoeh08:48
thechitowncubsand make sure you install the module package for that kernel08:48
microhaxowanna walk me through08:48
microhaxo?08:48
thechitowncubsnot another one :P08:48
microhaxolol08:48
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pythonpadawanso does anyone know anything about getting my ipod40gig to work with my magical ubuntu system?08:48
xed_liveubuntuAnyone know how to use gparted ...?08:48
xed_liveubuntuAnyone know how to use gparted ...?08:48
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cory_vinux: after gnomebaker is installed where to i go to run it?08:49
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pythonpadawanjust point me in the right direction and ill do the research08:49
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thechitowncubsxed_liveubuntu: I do08:49
thechitowncubswhat are you trying to do?08:49
thechitowncubsyou can't modify an active partition though08:49
thechitowncubsI'm assuming thats your problem08:49
vinuxAccessories cory_08:49
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cory_oh ok thx!08:49
vinuxnp cory_08:50
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xed_liveubuntuthechitowncubs, trying to create a partition in my hdd so I can install another OS onto it..08:50
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thechitowncubsxed: lol, i just did the same08:50
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xed_liveubuntuthen you can help, yes?08:50
thechitowncubsdo you have ubuntu install only as of now08:50
thechitowncubsyep08:50
xed_liveubuntuthechitowncubs, yes08:50
thechitowncubsok08:51
xed_liveubuntuthechitowncubs, except.. I'm running off of the livecd right now08:51
thechitowncubsare you trying to resize the ext3 partition?08:51
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xed_liveubuntuThere are no other partitions, thechitowncubs.08:51
thechitowncubsdo you have free space on your drive?08:51
xed_liveubuntuYes, enough for another OS.08:51
thechitowncubsThen why are you using gparted?08:52
xed_liveubuntuI don't know.. Cooner750 suggested it.08:52
xed_liveubuntuI haven't even used it yet.08:53
_linuxAS_hi08:53
xed_liveubuntuthechitowncubs, do you have another suggestion?08:53
thechitowncubsOk, well, if you are installing winblows, then you can just use that to partition the free space and keep your ubuntu system intact, but you will have to rebuild the grub bootloader08:53
thechitowncubswith my suggestion above08:53
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thechitowncubsusually any os comes with its own partitioner08:54
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xed_liveubuntuthechitowncubs, but.. that would mean I have to format, install windows first, then install ubuntu ...?08:55
dr_willisa live cd with qt_parted or some other parted variant comes in handy.08:55
thechitowncubsNo08:55
thechitowncubsyou can just use the free space for windows08:55
thechitowncubsif you have some08:55
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xed_liveubuntuHmm.. maybe I said something in the wrong sense.08:56
xed_liveubuntuAll the free space is already partitioned as ext3.08:56
Frederickguys i got a fat partition at /dev/hda5 how do I add it to fstab properly?08:56
xed_liveubuntuI need to use that "empty" or "free" space.. as another partition.08:56
dr_willisFrederick,  deoenbds on what you mean properly. :P want all users to be able to read/write it? one user? none?08:57
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Frederickdr_willis: all users08:57
thechitowncubsxed: ok, you need to resize the partition, this is a bit tricky, but it works.08:58
Tweekk3b is sexy :)08:58
thechitowncubshttp://www.sysresccd.org/08:58
Fredericklook: /dev/hda5       /mnt/fat-c      v-fat   rw,user,noauto  0       008:58
thechitowncubsxed: use that08:58
ChoubakaFrederick: vfat08:58
Choubakanot v-fat08:58
thechitowncubsand then use parted to resize the ext3 partition08:58
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dr_willisFrederick,  amazeing that question gets asked a dozen times  a week. lol..   also you may want to set the umask=002 * (i think)* option.08:58
thechitowncubsits pretty easy actually08:58
thechitowncubsyou could also use qtparted08:59
thechitowncubswhich is a gui to parted08:59
thechitowncubsbut the CMD line versino worked for em08:59
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dr_willisi beluve that 'gparted' is also anotehr gui to parted.08:59
thechitowncubsthe ubuntu live cd seems to use the hard drive, which isn't allowed for resizing08:59
Frederickmount: unknown filesystem type 'v-fat'08:59
ChoubakaFrederick: I told you, "vfat"08:59
ivoksvfat08:59
xed_liveubuntuthechitowncubs, you lost me.08:59
ivoksnot v-fat08:59
thechitowncubsdownload system rescue cd09:00
thechitowncubsand boot that up09:00
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thechitowncubsthat will get you in an enviornment to where you can resize09:00
karabihello, world09:00
ivoksprint "Hello, karabi!\n";09:01
Frederickworking :)09:01
Frederickdont doesnt kubunto has kdevelop?09:01
karabihaha09:01
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karabican anyone help me figure out as to why my ubuntu system is slow?09:01
thechitowncubsivoks: do you remember helping me get my intel HDA working?09:01
thechitowncubswell I have another problem with that same macheine09:02
ivoksthechitowncubs: :)09:02
jesse1karabi: maybe u need better hardware09:02
xed_liveubuntuI suddenly don't like the idea of this system rescue disc, thechitowncubs.. =(09:02
karabino no09:02
karabii have 750mhz09:02
karabi700 ram09:02
ivoks:)09:02
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ivoks750mhz?09:02
karabibut..09:02
thechitowncubsI configured X on my computer with my monitor, and when they brought the comp home and used their montior, the sync ranges were out of sync09:02
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Choubaka750 MHz is just fine.09:03
ivoksthechitowncubs: that's normal09:03
Frederickdont doesnt kubunto has kdevelop?09:03
WhistlerChoubaka i agree i have 710mhz and its enougt09:03
WhistlerChoubaka i agree i have 710mhz and its enought09:03
Whistler=] 09:03
ChoubakaFrederick: Your English is weird.09:03
ivoksthechitowncubs: every monitor has it's own sync ranges09:03
thechitowncubsthen i tried to get them to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg over the phone a bunch of times, even did it on my system while talking them through it, but now X won't even start !09:03
ChoubakaWhistler: Heh. But please don't correct typos that way :/09:04
thechitowncubsis there anything that I could get them to read to figure out the error more specifically?09:04
WhistlerChoubaka pl09:04
ivoksthechitowncubs: you are tring to give tech support for ubuntu users/buyers? :)09:04
WhistlerChoubaka ok09:04
Frederickdoesnt kubunto has kdevelop?09:04
xed_liveubuntuSo.. what was this qt_parted thing?09:04
FrederickChoubaka: double typo09:04
Whistlersrry09:04
thechitowncubsivoks: ya :)09:04
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xed_liveubuntudr_willis, you there?09:05
ChoubakaAnyways, hm09:05
ivoksthechitowncubs: so, we are telling you what to do, and you collect money? :)09:05
ChoubakaFrederick: it's there.09:05
cory_gnome baker is pretty damn cool09:05
jesse1any1 know where i can get a memory editor for ubuntu?09:05
ChoubakaFrederick: kdevelop309:05
thechitowncubsivoks: no, i'm doing it for free :P09:05
thechitowncubshonestly09:05
cory_one thing i've noticed from the switch from windows to linux is this shit is free and works just as well..09:05
ivoksi bet you do :)09:06
thechitowncubsI'm just trying to get ubuntu to as many people as possible09:06
xed_liveubuntuthechitowncubs, tell me how I can resize this ext3 partition.. and have some unpartitioned space to isntall windows 98 on to..09:06
xed_liveubuntuinstall*09:06
thechitowncubsYou are going from ubuntu to win98 for what reason?09:06
xed_liveubuntuthechitowncubs, not going from.. just need it so I can have TV on this PC in another room..09:06
Choubakajesse1: memory editor?09:06
Choubakacory_: and there's no viruses.09:06
ivoksthechitowncubs: big diff beteween monitors? in inches?09:07
xed_liveubuntuthechitowncubs, I doubt I'll be able to find a driver or something for ubuntu which'll get me TV onto it..09:07
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thechitowncubsivoks: 19 to 1709:07
FrederickChoubaka:  cant find the package09:07
ChoubakaFrederick: You need universe enabled.09:07
ivoksthechitowncubs: and now, X won't even start?09:07
jesse1choubaka: yes to edit the values of data in programs a "Windows" program that does this is art money09:07
thechitowncubsya09:07
ivoksthechitowncubs: and error is?09:07
thechitowncubsit configured the sync ranges right, i looked online09:07
carypfp, you around?09:07
thechitowncubsthe error is no screens found09:07
Choubakajesse1: hm09:07
ivokslol09:07
thechitowncubsya, i know09:08
ChoubakaThat sounds like a security violation :|09:08
ivoksyou screwed xorg.conf09:08
thechitowncubs:o09:08
FrederickChoubaka: where is that?09:08
ivoksit can't find monitor or video card09:08
pfpcary: yep09:08
thechitowncubsand your advice is...09:08
carypfp, sweet. someone i sort of know!09:08
ivoksthechitowncubs: dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg09:08
thechitowncubs-plow, thats interesting09:08
thechitowncubslol09:08
ChoubakaFrederick: See ubuntuguide.org -> adding repositories or something09:08
cory_um does anybody else have problems with gnome baker when using a linux kernel greater then 2.5?09:08
pfpcary: :) everything ok?09:08
thechitowncubsand what does that do09:08
carypfp, whats going on. how are things. or something09:08
carypfp, life wise yeah, linux wise, i have some issues -=)09:09
ivoksthechitowncubs: thells dpkg to ask questions with low priority09:09
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microhaxoyo09:09
carypfp, in the mood to try to field some quetions?09:09
ivoksthechitowncubs: instead of high, wich is default on ubuntu09:09
pfpcary: in the mood yes, in the condition, almost - hit me :)09:09
thechitowncubsi'm a little confused, what does the priority affect?09:09
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ivoksthechitowncubs: it will ask for sync ranges09:10
ivoksthechitowncubs: what the diff is?09:10
thechitowncubsya, but we already did the reconfigure without -plow about 5 times09:10
xed_liveubuntuthechitowncubs, can you help me with..changing the size of this partition and creating an unpartition space which i could install windows 98 on?09:10
thechitowncubsxed: i tried09:10
ivoksthechitowncubs: well, if you set high priority to dpkg, it will ask you only the questions he can't resolve by it's self...09:10
carypfp, hah. well i guess i should boot into lnx to better figure out my questions. one is man..my audio BLows. it works fine in theory, but is very quite and if sounds are repeating they keep fading lower and lower.09:10
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carypfp, i found a patch on some website, but its basically raw code. its a kernel patch and i have no idea at all what to do with it09:11
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thechitowncubsivoks: ok, i'll keep it in mind, anything else we can try?09:11
thechitowncubsjust in case...09:11
ivoksthechitowncubs: then it asked you for your monitor, to choose, simple, medium or hard09:11
riahay09:11
ivoksthechitowncubs: it's enough to choose simple, and then choos 17" monitor09:11
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xed_liveubuntuthechitowncubs, tried..?09:12
pfpcary: sounds very strange... (no pun intended), probably a driver problem like you thought09:12
xed_liveubuntuthechitowncubs, system rescue disk?09:12
thechitowncubsya, boot that up and use parted09:12
xed_liveubuntuoh..09:12
thechitowncubsits easy09:12
thechitowncubsboot it up09:12
xed_liveubuntugot to burn it and stuff, eh?09:12
jesse1Choubaka: i found a program that does that allows me to edit the memory but i have no idea how to install it the link is http://sourceforge.net/projects/qgspider09:12
Starhy09:12
thechitowncubsthats what i did09:12
pfpcary: patching the kernel is not very difficult, do you know what version teh patch is for?09:12
carypfp, and also..hha...i started trying to mess with installing MOL, and i navigated to something like etc/blah/somefile and i tried to open it to modify a couple of lines just to see if i could do it and i tried "ed" to edit. is that at all right?09:12
xed_liveubuntuthen I should probably do the burning and stuff on my laptop..09:12
carypfp, i know basically nothing. i THINK it is for hoary 5.04, which is what i am running09:13
carypfp, i have no idea where to even start on patching the kernel though09:13
pfpcary: hmm a bit vague eh?09:13
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carypfp, hold. let  me find the dilly09:13
microhaxoGuys09:13
caryactually, im going to boot into linux, then find it09:14
carybe right back09:14
pfpcary: hoary/5.0.4 is ubuntu's release number, but linux's (= the kernel's) release is a separate thing09:14
microhaxohow can i make an image my background?09:14
pfpcary: aight09:14
microhaxodoi have to save it?09:14
caryahhhh09:14
carypfp, for reference, where woudl i find that info?09:14
jesse1in firefox just right click then push set as background09:14
carypfp, (so i can come packing when i come back)09:14
thechitowncubsI'm off, thanks for the suggestions ivoks, hope i helped meng, and good luck xed_liveubuntu09:14
pfpcary: type 'uname -r' in a shell09:14
carypfp, cool. brb09:15
pfpcary: altough i can tell that your hoary has kernel 2.6.10-something09:15
pfpbah09:15
thoreauputicthechitowncubs: try saying "no" to the framebuffer queation when you do the -plow thing09:15
xed_liveubuntuI'm now sad =(09:15
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jesse1Choubaka: i found a program that does that allows me to edit the memory but i have no idea how to install it the link is http://sourceforge.net/projects/qgspider09:15
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vHintswengeeze it takes forever to install...09:18
schasihuh?09:18
vHintswenUbuntu takes forever to install09:18
Jimbobjesse1, Choubaka: There should be a readme or INSTALL file in the download archive09:18
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carypfp, 2.6.10-509:19
schasivHintswen: Where does it take especially long? And compared to what?09:19
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carythe kernal patches are for 2.6.11.809:19
vHintswencompared to a snail traveling 1K09:20
mikasthe installer should have some kind of progress bar.. but this is a problem of apt..09:20
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Choubakajesse1: Ah09:20
vHintswenit's after u take out the cd09:20
Choubakait's a source package.09:20
vHintswenand it reboots09:20
carypfp, the url for these patches is this:  http://seehuhn.de/comp/powerbook/index09:20
mikasi hate it when you don't know how much of installation is done09:20
carypfp, is there some need i have of updating my kernel?09:20
jesse1jimbob: no instructions on how to install in the readme09:21
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Choubakajesse1: download it, extract it, cd to dir, run ./configure and sudo checkinstall (make sure you have checkinstall installed)09:21
microhaxoguys09:21
microhaxohow do i change the icons in gnome?09:21
jesse1ok09:21
pfpcary: yep, you need to get the source code, apply that patch, compile & install09:21
carypfp, no idea how to do that09:21
pfpcary: hopefuly you will soon09:22
carypfp, i just changed my audio thing to alsa instead of oss and it started out okay, but it sounds muted and crappy now. like..its maxed out but so soft i can barely hear it09:22
thoreauputicmicrohaxo: if you have an icon theme, drag it onto the themes dialog or put it in ~/.icons09:22
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vHintswengeeze i could walk down the stairs to ground floor and back and ubuntu will still be installing!09:22
carypfp, i am at your mercy, if you feel so inclinded as to help me09:22
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pfpcary: suresure .)09:22
carypfp, the first like..half second of the song sounds fine, then it starts sounding more or less like the ass of a mad bear09:23
pfpcary: so, you need the kernel sources, and you need a .tar.gz of those most probably, since ubuntu only carries 2.6.1009:23
pfplol09:23
pfpless'see09:23
carypfp, is there some linux site i need to find that will have this kernel?09:23
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pfpcary: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ , take 2.6.11.809:24
jesse1Choubaka:  that didnt work i got an error09:24
mikascary, have you checked alsamixer's levels?09:24
pfpcary: about 35 MB09:24
Choubakajesse1: you're missing some -dev files then09:24
r0dcary, do any apt-cache search for the kernel sources09:25
carymikas, where does one find the alsalevels?09:25
pfptype alsamixer in a termina09:25
mikascary, type 'alsamixer' in a terminal09:25
caryr0d, is that under synaptic?09:25
jesse1Choubaka: how would i find out what dev files i need?09:25
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r0dcary, like 'apt-cache search kernel source 2.6' yea or synaptic09:25
xed_blehwtf09:25
pfpcary: that's equivalent to searching w/ synaptic09:26
Choubakajesse1: well, what is it missing?09:26
caryahh09:26
Choubakaconfigure should fail at some point09:26
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Choubakachecking for a particular library09:26
microhaxowhats the best icon set?09:26
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pfpcary: aah, ubuntu carries sources for 2.6.11 too, great09:26
microhaxoin your opinion09:26
caryr0d, i see the stuff, it seems treble and bass are all the way down? i still dont get why it sounds fine at first then fades09:26
carypfp, in english/linuxdummie09:27
jesse1Choubaka:  make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.        then it just says installation failed09:27
vHintswenit's setting up all sorts of stuff09:27
vHintswenno progress bar...09:27
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xedgooood09:27
vHintsweni dunno how long it's gonna take09:27
r0dcary,  i dont know your hole situation but use 'amixer' to see your volume settings09:27
pfpcary: cancel the kernel.org d/l, also, it's worth playing with alsamixer first, if that doesn't help, we'll compile a kernel09:27
thoreauputicjesse1: did you run "make" first?09:28
carycanceling dl now09:28
r0dcary,  how old is your box?09:28
carypfp, so i should search for the kernel in apt-cache?09:28
pfpjust kick me if i get too much into jargon09:28
jesse1thoreauputic: hmmm i guess not09:28
caryr0d, about a year. 1.5ghz powerbook09:28
hondjemmm, jargon09:28
thoreauputicjesse1: that might be an idea :)09:29
r0dapple!!! yikes lol09:29
jesse1thoreauputic: yes it sounds like a good idea09:29
thoreauputicheheh09:29
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Choubakajesse1: oh, did you run ./configure ?09:29
Choubakain the source directory?09:29
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xed_liveubuntuwhile I wait for my download to finish09:29
pfpcary: yep, you can get the kernel sources with apt09:29
xed_liveubuntu..who wants to help me with this sound not working issue?09:29
carypfp, nowi dont knwo where i am looking for this kernel09:29
jesse1choubaka: yes i did and trying the make command gave me this error make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.09:30
carypfp, apt..is that through synaptic?09:30
pfpcary: you need package called linux-source-2.6.1109:30
Choubakajesse1: weird09:30
TokenBadI still can't seem to figure out why people can't upload to the ftp I setup09:30
r0dcary,  im not sure what apple uses for sound. as far as hardware09:30
carydousn rhAR09:30
thoreauputicjesse1: did configure spit out any errors?09:30
pfpcary: yep, synaptic is (the easiest) frontend for APT09:30
carywow.09:30
carypfp, found it09:30
carypfp, marking it now09:30
Choubakajesse1: and the configure succeeded?09:30
jesse1hmmmm09:31
Choubakait compiles fine for me :/09:31
carypfp, woohoo..its downloading09:31
caryr0d, (thank you as well, btw)09:31
Choubakawait, no it doesn't ;P09:31
pfpr0d: i think he has a known problem which needs a kernel patch, http://seehuhn.de/comp/powerbook/index#sound-patch09:31
jesse1choubaka:  error: C++ compiler cannot create executables09:31
pfpr0d: or that's what he said :)09:31
r0dpfp,  kool kool09:31
caryr0d, so now that i can see alsamixer junk, how can i adjust the settings?09:31
Choubakajesse1: :|09:31
ChoubakaI have no idea09:32
thoreauputicjesse1: sudo apt-get install build-essential09:32
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xed_liveubuntubrb09:32
r0dcary, amixer you can see adjust your settings09:32
jesse1whiles that downloading ill brb09:33
carypfp, okay i thoguht i applied the new kernel but terminal still says 2.6.10.509:33
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carypfp (i applied, then reloaded everything)09:33
r0dhehe cary09:33
r0dcary,  you have to compile bro09:33
pfpcary: there's still work to be done... have you ever compiled software / are you familiar with that concept?09:33
caryr0d, i...i am very very dumb.09:34
r0dcary,  you patched the source first right09:34
pfpi think he just dl'd the src09:34
carypfp, many many moons ago i programmed in like...VB. i compiled there, but it was all visual09:34
r0dcary,  no your new. everyone was new09:34
carypfp r0d, i downloaded and applied the thing in synaptic09:34
caryso..whatever that means09:34
r0dcary, vb is an interpet language. u dont compile:)09:35
TokenBadthats the file for the mounting of drives in ubuntu?09:35
TokenBadwhat even09:35
pfpi think you can make windows .exe's with VB09:35
caryr0d, well, it said "compling" so..thats all i know. as for actual code..i know nothing09:35
microhaxoGuys09:35
thoreauputicTokenBad: /etc/fstab09:35
carypfp, yeah, thats what i used it for. .exes for windows, back in the day09:35
microhaxohow do i change the size of my gnome toolbar deal, i want it bigger?09:36
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r0di code in vb and vb6 isnt a "true" compling lang09:36
r0dvb.net is09:36
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heimdallhello !!!09:36
thoreauputicmicrohaxo: right click, properties09:36
xedhow do I change the screen resolution in gnome?09:36
pfpah09:36
TokenBadthanks thoreauputic09:36
r0dbut thats the past right cary;)09:36
microhaxothat doesnt change the logo apearancE?09:37
pfpcary: do you have that 010-sound.patch file around?09:37
microhaxoim, thinkin of KDM gnome09:37
microhaxoarnt i?09:37
carywell i have no file. its just code on this website, pfp09:37
ompaulxed system preferences screen resolution09:37
caryhttp://seehuhn.de/comp/powerbook/index09:37
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HawkeVIPERr0d: one could argue whether VB is code or script09:37
caryr0d, i never did figure out how to modify anything in the alsa settings thig09:38
pfpcary: yep, i read that page..  you should save it to a file, eg. in your home directory09:38
carypfp, the code? like, a text doc?09:38
microhaxohow do i get that launcher that people have with the icons that get big when you go over them?09:38
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caryor like right click and save09:38
pfpcary: yep, it's plain text09:38
thoreauputicmicrohaxo: probably gdesklets09:39
pfpcary: or right-click on the link -> save as, end result is same09:39
caryahhh09:39
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caryit is a .patch. i see now09:39
HawkeVIPERmicrohaxo: buy a mac?09:39
vHintswenOMG now it gotta download more stuff!09:39
cyphasehey everyone09:39
microhaxohaha09:39
HawkeVIPER=P09:39
xedompaul: says YOU09:39
caryoaky so that is saved09:39
xedompaul: I'm on.. old school..09:39
vHintsweni already have ubuntu and i haven't even gotten into it yet09:39
r0dHawkeVIPER,  I would say script more than true code. the only traces of vb6 now are what are used for scripting. (vbscript)09:39
xedas someone said earlier..09:39
xedoh dear GOD my face hurts so so much09:40
Razor-Xdamn it! Klipper doesen't work with C-M-v09:40
Razor-Xstupid Klipper -_-09:40
HawkeVIPERr0d: indeed09:40
jesse1ok i tryed it and i got a heap load of errors09:40
HawkeVIPERI hear vb.net is pretty good09:40
HawkeVIPERhaven't layed my hands on it as yet09:40
caryr0d, i see a visual represetation of my levels (i guess) on alsamixer, but dont knwo how to change this mess. is it stuff i need to type?09:40
caryr0d...nm...got it09:40
ompaulxed so what you mean is debian or other - try this - in a terminal gnome-control-center and in there you will be helped :-)09:41
r0d:)09:41
Razor-Xcary: you're not really used to a curses interface, are you?09:41
HawkeVIPERbollocks, I just knocked my ashtray off my desk09:41
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cthulfuegoquick, lick it up!09:41
caryRazor-X, i am BRAND new to linux. the closest thing to it i have used was the LiteStep shell replacement for windows.09:41
HawkeVIPERmmm....09:41
HawkeVIPERno09:41
pfpcary: that package you installed with synaptic created a file called /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.11.tar.bz209:41
microhaxohow can i get windows to appear in my gnome bar instead of a added on at the bottom?09:41
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Jimbobmicrohaxo: You mean like the OS X dock?09:42
microhaxono dammit09:42
microhaxohrm09:42
microhaxoLike09:42
microhaxowhen i launch firefox09:42
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ompaulHawkeVIPER, do you not pay enough taxes as to motivate you to stop - I used to to 2^6 smokes and higher a day09:42
microhaxoi deleted that bar on bottom of desktop09:42
microhaxoand now09:42
microhaxoit doesnt show any opened apps09:42
carypfp, okay...09:43
JimbobAhh09:43
r0dcary,  well you picked the one of the best distro's to start in. I started from gentoo. and had to cry myseflt to sleep09:43
Jimbobright-click, Add to Panel09:43
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JimbobSelect "Window List"09:43
HawkeVIPERompaul: I buy em from Spain09:43
Jimbob(right-click on the panel, that is)09:43
TomT64hello can anyone help me decrypt a pdf file encrypted with fileopen?09:43
caryr0d, hah09:43
HawkeVIPERat 2 a pack, I can't argue09:43
pfpcary: you should extract that somewhere where you have about hmm, 300 MB free09:43
microhaxothanks09:43
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Jimbobnp09:43
HawkeVIPERfork the government09:43
HawkeVIPERkthx09:43
caryr0d, i sort of chanced on ubuntu. randomly found apple-x byt googling my fingerfs off09:43
microhaxomuhahaha09:43
jesse1choubaka:  i tryed the install the configure worked with no errors but when i used sudo checkinstall it just gave me about 100 erros09:43
xedMy face hurts because its ugly.09:44
pfpcary: in terminal, go to that directory and type tar xpjf /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.11.tar.bz209:44
ompaulHawkeVIPER, maybe fork a process but never the other - more than one ooch09:44
carypfp, okay...so...i find that file in...terminal? the file brosers?09:44
HawkeVIPERlol09:44
carypfp okay09:44
pfpcary: tarminal ofc :)09:44
pfpe09:44
carypfp ofc?09:44
HawkeVIPERI'd be quite happy if the government service segfaulted and died09:44
HawkeVIPER=P09:44
caryof course?09:44
pfpcary: of course09:44
thoreauputicjesse1: ./configure && make && checkinstall09:44
carypfp, hold: doing so09:45
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thoreauputicactually sudo checkinstall09:45
jesse1thoreauputic: there the sets i followed09:45
ompaulHawkeVIPER, until the guy who was much bigger than you with a big stick from down the road told you that you were now his  .......... go figure we started with anarchy and look at the mess it got us09:45
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JimbobHawkeVIPER: You'd have to killall corporationd and warlordd as well09:45
TomT64can anyone help me decrypt a pdf file encrypted with fileopen?09:45
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HawkeVIPERJimbob: true enough09:46
HawkeVIPERI'm quite happy living in my own little world of anarchy09:46
carypfp, that mess is running now09:46
HawkeVIPERas long as they don't bother me, I won't bother them09:46
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ompaulJimbob, so it becomes rewite the the config file and kill -1 1 for reality09:46
som1hi :-D09:46
jesse1thoreauputic: i tryed again im still getting about 100 errors09:46
carypfp, i guess its extracting it to that dir?09:46
pfpcary: yep. as long as you don't see any output, it's extracting09:47
thoreauputicjesse1: does "make" complete without errors ?09:47
caryi just see line after line after line running by09:47
albackerdo you guys think that i should remove  libimlib2 when instllin a new version of imlib2 ??09:47
jesse1no thats what gives me the 100 errors09:47
xedSometimes.. I think god doesn't want me to learn about the wonders of linux..09:48
pfpcary: gag. stop it with Ctrl-C.. and pls paste the last line09:48
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xedGod's got some pent up rage against Ubuntu!!!!!09:48
Jimbobompaul: Eh, they're just social relations.09:48
carypfp, it stoppd itself09:48
xedGod's got some pent up rage against Ubuntu!!!!!09:48
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carytar: linux-source-2.6.11/README.Debian: Cannot open: No such file or directory09:48
carytar: Error exit delayed from previous errors09:48
carythose be the last to lines, ARRRRRRGH09:48
pfpcary: you're probably out of disk space, type 'df -h .' in the same directory09:49
caryFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on09:49
cary/dev/hda6             4.3G  1.6G  2.5G  39% /09:49
thoreauputicjesse1: "100 errors" doesn't tell us much - maybe you should paste the errors you get on pastebin.com or similar09:49
bluemaxdoes ubuntu/gnome recognize postscript fonts in .pfm format?09:49
pfpcary: the source itself takes about 230MB, and compiling some more... hmm, well you have plenty of that09:50
carypfp, what sucks is i think it is using a differernt partition than i wanted it to . i got confused somewhere in installing and i think i lost in the suffle like 10 gigs, if i am using the 5 gig part.09:50
microhaxoguys what is enlightenment for gnome?09:50
microhaxoany pics?09:50
HawkeVIPERit's a window manager09:50
pfpcary: oh, damn :(09:50
xedOkay.. so I'm in a bit of a pickle..09:50
ghoulio.09:50
xedSomeone.. please.. help.. me..!09:51
HawkeVIPERsee http://www.enlightenment.org/09:51
pfpcary: that shouldn't matter here though09:51
carypfp, not really sure wha tto do about it. im crap at trying to figure stuff out with that install thing09:51
xedAfter installing nvidia drivers...I reboot the pentium2 .. and now its all "..." at the login screen.09:51
caryi thought i did it right09:51
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caryokay09:51
xedAfter installing nvidia drivers...I reboot the pentium2 .. and now its all "..." at the login screen.09:51
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microhaxois enlightenment good?09:51
Frederickhow do I remove something from /var/.locks in ubuntu? Ive closed a window of a terminal with apt09:52
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HawkeVIPERit's a personal thing09:52
HawkeVIPERI use xfce09:52
pfpcary: now we need to find out why the source wasn't extracted properly09:52
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HawkeVIPERtry it09:52
carypfp, joy of joys09:52
HawkeVIPERif you hate it09:52
Jimbobbluemax: Apparently you can install those fonts (with both the pfm and pfb files) by copying them to ~/.fonts09:52
jesse1thoreauputic: http://pastebin.com/30129709:52
HawkeVIPERdon't use it09:52
hondjebummer, another odd crash in firefox09:52
hondjealso reproducable, but I'm thinking it's not firefox, but something local .... hrm09:52
carypfp, is it possible i mis-typed?09:52
hondjeand comcast is dead again.09:52
xedWho wants to help me?09:52
HawkeVIPERhondje: when does it crash?09:52
HawkeVIPERon java crap?09:52
hondjeHawkeVIPER: When I try to accept a certificate for all time09:53
pfpcary: hmm, prolly not09:53
HawkeVIPERmmph09:53
hondjeGot a core and everything, but I'm thinking something is really screwy on my end.09:53
pfpcary: rm -rf linux-source-2.6.1109:53
HawkeVIPERcould be perms issue09:53
bluemaxJimbob: ok....09:53
hondjeHawkeVIPER: Perms where?09:53
HawkeVIPERin your profile dir09:53
HawkeVIPERcheck bugs.mozilla.org09:54
pfpcary: after that: tar xpjf /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.11.tar.bz2 > tar.out 2>&109:54
carypfp, doesnt tell me anythign09:54
caryoaky09:54
microhaxook09:54
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microhaxoi dloaded englightenment09:54
microhaxohow do i get it to work?09:54
carypermission denied09:54
thoreauputicjesse1: looks like someone goofed: I don't know how you can get that to build09:54
microhaxoi installed it09:54
pfppfp: usually if unix commands succeed, they just keep quiet09:54
caryoh i gues sim not running as root pfp09:54
caryits got my user name09:54
microhaxosudo09:54
Jimbobmicrohaxo: Go to Applications->System Tools->Configuration Editor09:54
carycary@lnx09:54
pfpcary: you don't need to, actually it's better not to09:54
thoreauputicjesse1: the compiler doesn't like it, evidently09:55
microhaxok09:55
caryoka09:55
Jimbobmicrohaxo: In /desktop/gnome/applications (I think) there should be a window manager key.09:55
microhaxok09:55
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jesse1thoreauputic: yea, maybe i could email the devloper to make a .deb file for it09:55
carybrb..root beer09:55
r0danyone know about making gimp look like photoshop?09:55
FrederickE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?09:55
hondjeHawkeVIPER: nope, that wasn't it, but thanks for the thought.  I'd hate to file another bug, since I'm thinking all my problems are related somehow09:55
Frederickguys apt-is locked here09:55
HawkeVIPERr0d: it's not supposed to...09:56
microhaxowhat do i do with the key?09:56
hondjeFrederick: is synaptic running?09:56
pfpcary: you got permission denied from the  'rm -rf ...' ?09:56
HawkeVIPERhondje: I didn't mean file09:56
HawkeVIPERcheck the bug list09:56
thoreauputicFrederick: close all instances of apt/synaptic09:56
microhaxoJimbob, waht do i do with the keyS?09:56
hondjeHawkeVIPER: Ah, roger that ;)09:56
Frederickhondje: no09:56
r0dHawkeVIPER,  theirs a hack that does make it.09:56
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HawkeVIPERr0d: mmm, check the gimp site09:56
carywhen i did the previous one pfp09:56
carypfp cary@lnx:/usr/src$ rm -rf linux-source-2.6.1109:56
jesse1fredrick: yes close synaptic or use that to install it for u09:56
caryit did nothing09:56
carywhen i typed09:56
r0dHawkeVIPER,  right. I'm wondering user feedback guess no one uses it09:56
hondjeFrederick: 'ps aux | grep apt' show anything?09:56
JimbobChange /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager/default to "/usr/bin/enlightenment" (or wherever the enlightenment binary got installed)09:57
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microhaxoJimbob: what do i do with these keys?09:57
carycary@lnx:/usr/src$ tar xpjf /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.11.tar.bz2 > tar.out 2>&109:57
HawkeVIPERr0d: I don't tend to use gimp all that much09:57
HawkeVIPERI trained on PS09:57
carybash: tar.out: Permission denied09:57
HawkeVIPERcan't break the habit09:57
HawkeVIPERlol09:57
JimbobThen log out and log back in09:57
r0dhehe09:57
microhaxok09:57
r0dHawkeVIPER,  it would be one less reason to use windows09:57
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HawkeVIPERindeed09:57
pfpcary: aah... now i gets it, get out of /usr/src (you could do it there too, but let's try to keep this simple)09:57
tiglionabbitcrossover office claims to support PhotoShop09:57
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carypfp okay09:57
jesse1too bad theres no linux photoshop09:57
carypfp where to09:57
FrederickIm trying to install kdevelop309:58
HawkeVIPERstill... I keep KHAMELEON a windows box for compatibility09:58
ompaulHawkeVIPER, being trained to put ones hand in the fire does not mean that you should :)09:58
Frederickand apt wants to update all my packages09:58
HawkeVIPERsometimes I'm forced to test crap using windows09:58
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HawkeVIPERompaul: true, but I really cba to relearn how to do everything I can already do in seconds on PS09:58
pfpcary: go to your home folder, then 'mkdir kernel ; cd kernel'09:58
r0dHawkeVIPER,  same here. I administer a window network:(09:58
r0dthe tux stands alone...09:59
thoreauputicFrederick: apt generally knows what it's doing09:59
HawkeVIPERr0d: sucky for you... at least in my job, I'm primarily a linux admin09:59
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pfpcary: then re-run that tar...  command09:59
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tiglionabbitr0d: heard of Samba?09:59
microhaxoerr09:59
HawkeVIPERalthough, we've started to deal with windows now too =/09:59
Frederickthoreauputic: I dont consider open office as a dep for kdevelop09:59
microhaxoJimbob:09:59
carycary@lnx:/$ mkdir kernal ; cd kernel09:59
carymkdir: cannot create directory `kernal': Permission denied09:59
carybash: cd: kernel: No such file or directory09:59
microhaxoah09:59
r0dtiglionabbit,  yea, but my boss didnt09:59
caryahhaah09:59
caryi used an a09:59
microhaxoit didnt do anything?09:59
HawkeVIPERthe only unfortunate thing about samba09:59
JimbobUmm, try changing the "current" key to /usr/bin/enlightenment10:00
caryi tried just the first command10:00
caryit said permission denied, pfp10:00
HawkeVIPERis the way it goes D if you're connected to a windows share from a linux box and the windows share reboots10:00
thoreauputicFrederick: heh - what command are you using  to install kdevelop?10:00
Jimbob(then logout/log back in)10:00
pfpcary: umm, you're in the root directory (/) now, you should be in your home (/home/yourusername)10:00
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caryahha10:00
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Mistic_Warriorbonjour tout le monde10:00
r0dHawkeVIPER,  that is a downer10:00
Mistic_Warriora va bien =10:00
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pfpcary: type just 'cd' by itself to get there10:00
carypfp, could do like cd /~ to make it sure10:00
caryahha10:00
HawkeVIPERyeah10:00
carynever10:00
carymind10:01
microhaxoJimbob: didnt do anything?10:01
microhaxoi have a black background10:01
Mistic_WarriorVous parlez pas franais ?10:01
microhaxothats it10:01
HawkeVIPERMistic_Warrior: parle anglais svp10:01
Mistic_Warriorwhy ?10:01
Jimbobmicrohaxo: Hrm.10:01
thoreauputicMistic_Warrior: bonjour - /join #ubuntu-fr :)10:01
r0di will say one good thing(only) good about windows is its really easy to admin several boxes10:01
HawkeVIPERbecause this is an english chan?10:01
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Mistic_Warriorok thx10:01
microhaxok10:01
HawkeVIPERr0d: indeed10:01
Jimbobmicrohaxo: Beats me then, I haven't used enlightenment in years.10:01
HawkeVIPERit has some major picky ass issues at times tho10:01
caryokay finally10:02
Jimbobr0d: No worse than Linux (and if you're using remote X / NFS root it's actually harder)10:02
cary~/kernel exists10:02
Mistic_Warriorsry I mustn't car about the language of the chan... :D10:02
Mistic_Warriorcar ===== care*10:02
HawkeVIPERJimbob: why would you use remote X?10:02
pfpcary: great, go to that directory, then the tar... thing10:02
Mistic_Warriorso good word :)10:02
microhaxolol10:02
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r0dJimbob, I used NFS. theirs alot more overhead. not saying i wouldnt use it10:02
Mistic_Warriorwork10:02
JimbobHawkeVIPER: So you only have to install apps on one box10:03
HawkeVIPERooh, ya10:03
HawkeVIPERgotcha10:03
HawkeVIPERsorry... been a very long night10:03
Frederickhow do I set all my system back to english?10:03
carypfp, done10:03
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carypfp, i am getting no output10:03
HawkeVIPERwhy do I get th efeeling that I'm about to start chasing dependancies...10:03
pfpcary: ok, that's good10:03
signiusDoes anyone know of a free NFS serve rthat will run on windows server to do linux installs i have ha d abit of a look abotu but all the products ive seen appear to be comercial10:03
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carypfp, (i need a cpu meter so i can tell what is going on)10:04
HawkeVIPERsignius: check download.com10:04
signiuswow bad typing today10:04
HawkeVIPERI'm 99% certain there is on elisted there10:04
jesse1is there anyway i can save all the packages ive downloaded so i can take them over to my friends house? since hes got slow internet.10:04
microhaxoerr10:04
xxenonwill 2.6.12 (out now) be an officially supported kernel ?10:04
microhaxoanyone10:04
Jimbobr0d: Eh, NFS is still less overhead than SMB/remote profiles10:04
microhaxocan anyone help me get Enlightenment running, i have installed it fine in synamtic or what not10:04
pfpcary: when it's finished, there should be exactly one dir, named linux-source-2.6.1110:04
hondjeNFS is lovely :-)10:04
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thoreauputicjesse1: they should be in /var/cache/apt/archives10:04
HawkeVIPERsmb and NFS both have ugly overheads10:04
HawkeVIPERdoesn't matter which way you cut it10:05
Jimbobhondje: Naw, NFS sucks -- it just sucks less10:05
caryim back to prompt10:05
xedI need some serious help10:05
hondjeNFS over ssh tunnel is great10:05
signiusZERO results for NFS under a windows search10:05
caryit says10:05
xedI need some serious help10:05
ompaulmicrohaxo, so log out and choose it for your session10:05
hondjeEasy to set up, secure enough to use, etc10:05
jesse1thoreauputic: so all i do is copy that folder and paste it in there on my friends computer?10:05
hondjesignius: SFU does NFS afaik10:05
carypfp, linux-source-2.6.11  tar.out10:05
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caryi dont know what the tar.out is but there is only the one dir pfp10:05
xedThe screen locks up on bootup; I'm using gnome10:05
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thoreauputicjesse1: umm... well I would read the apt-howto first if I were you ;) sudo apt-get install apt-howto10:06
r0dJimbob,  I wouldnt doubt. but NFS vs Windows, windows was is easier. now security is another matter10:06
r0d*-was10:06
carypfp, btw..where in the world are you? i am in the state of alabama. (i know i know. it sounds hickish. birmingham is quite nice though)10:06
pfpcary: ah yes, good... do an 'ls -l', tar.out should have zero size10:06
xedIt was working fine before I installed the nvidia drivers.. anyone know how I can get back to the default settings?10:06
signiuswhats SFU ?10:06
Jimbobr0d: I just got done moving from NT4 -> Samba+LDAP10:06
ompaulxed you asked for help with gnome - not nvidia - the reason I do not use nvidia is because they do not release enough information to the community to allow us use the cards we bought - this is not good10:06
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carypfp, it does have a 0 size10:06
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r0dJimbob, ok NT4 is hell in a box10:06
xedompaul, aye, but this problem JUST occurred10:07
ompaulxed I suggest that you have a look at the wiki10:07
jesse1ok ill read that10:07
Jimbobr0d: Yes, yes it is :-)10:07
hondjesignius: service for unix10:07
xedompaul: link?10:07
pfpcary: i'm in finland miself10:07
HawkeVIPERr0d: NT4 pwns10:07
HawkeVIPERlol10:07
carypfp, oh man im jealous10:07
HawkeVIPERNT4... it's not an OS... it's an adventure10:07
r0dstill have nightmares w/ nt4...10:07
hondjesignius: MS has it on their website, and I _think_ it's free now10:07
dreamboyhello people here10:07
r0dlol10:07
carydreamboy, hello person there10:07
pfpcary: :D i demand to know why?10:07
r0dno doubt10:07
Jimbobr0d: Why? Just because your domain controller randomly locks up... :-)10:07
HawkeVIPERmicrosoft... are giving something away... for nothing?10:07
hondjehttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/sfu/default.mspx10:07
signiusactually i think i might have that downlaoded already10:08
ompaulxed https://wiki.ubuntu.com10:08
signiusi will go check out exactly whats in it10:08
signiusthanks for the pointer10:08
carypfp, because finland to me is unknown and i desire to go to the unknown. i love travelling and as i have never been there, i know not that which i [think i might maybe]  desire10:08
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thoreauputicjesse1: type file:///usr/share/doc/Debian/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.html in your browser to read the howto when it's installed10:08
carypfp, either way i want to go there to take photos10:08
HawkeVIPERerm....10:08
hondjeHawkeVIPER: They give lots of stuff away, like IE :-D10:08
HawkeVIPERapt should already be installed...10:08
r0dI wouldnt wish a full NT4 enviroment on my worst enemy. I'd recommend window 3.11 before that10:08
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hondjePerhaps this is their idea of how to stop people from buying *nix10:08
HawkeVIPERhondje: that's only because they couldn't sell it10:08
jesse1thoreauputic: how long u been using ubuntu for????10:09
ompaulcary but it is one of the best monty python songs10:09
carythoreauputic, hello again10:09
thoreauputicHawkeVIPER: I told him yo install the howto :)10:09
caryompaul, whcih?10:09
HawkeVIPERooh, ok10:09
pfpcary: welcome, english is widely spoken :P and there's lots of nature & stuff10:09
HawkeVIPERthoreauputic: there's one on the LDP too10:09
thoreauputicjesse1: about 6 months - Debian as well for 2 years10:09
ompaulcary finland10:09
HawkeVIPERand man apt works10:09
Jimbobr0d: Well, prior to NT4 it was a NetWare shop10:09
pfpcary: bout the kernel, you should cd to that linux-source-2.6.11 dir10:10
Jimbobr0d: Blessedly before my time10:10
carypfp, when i get my linux up and running maybe ill book a flight. [WOULD that i had that kind of money lying around] 10:10
jesse1thoreauputic: well ive been using linux since tuesday10:10
carypfp, doing that now10:10
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carypfp, there10:10
microhaxoOk10:10
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thoreauputicHawkeVIPER: your point? the apt howto is an excellent resource worth having on your machine10:10
r0dJimbob,  I still was playing w/ GI joes when that was out10:10
HawkeVIPERthoreauputic: my point is you don't need to install it10:10
pfpcary: mmhm, id' be travelling this very moment, if i had the money :)10:10
HawkeVIPERgenerally if you're using apt, you're online10:10
HawkeVIPERso look at the LDP copy10:10
Jimbobr0d: I was on AOL, personally10:11
thoreauputicHawkeVIPER: whatever10:11
microhaxois there a list of MUST HAVE APPS that i can get through Synaptic?10:11
pfpcary: ok, now where's the patch you saved10:11
carypfp, lets come up with a massive interntational scheme to steal lots of monies and travel th eworld over10:11
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kangpehi am very much enjoying this dark theme for gnome ;)10:11
jesse1thoreauputic: dang thats a long read10:11
r0dJimbob,  yea I have that skeleton in my closet too. AOL :( the dark days10:11
thoreauputicHawkeVIPER: some of us are not always on line and like to read stuff locally10:11
pfpcary: i'm in, heh10:11
carydesktop, pfp10:11
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r0dw/ my bad@$$ 28.8kps modem baby!!10:12
ompaulthoreauputic, and this is invoked how?10:12
HawkeVIPERthoreauputic: no offense meant man10:12
thoreauputicjesse1: you can look for what you need in the index, of course10:12
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pfpcary: ok, now to apply your 1st ever kernel patch: patch -p1 ~/Desktop/patchfile10:12
jesse1thoreaupitc: yea10:12
HawkeVIPERr0d: heh... I remember 9600baud bbs10:12
r0d*kbs. spelling is running low today10:12
nickthedick!ati10:12
ubotusomebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:12
HawkeVIPERthat r0x0red10:12
cdci ve installed ubuntu but i am new to this X-Org so i get display with huge fonts and huge icons how do i configure my desktop for 1024*76810:12
r0dyikes10:12
ompaulthoreauputic, and this (apt howto) is invoked how?10:12
Mistic_WarriorWhat is for you the best video-reader in linux ? kaffeine doesn't work very good :S10:12
thoreauputicompaul: I just go to /usr/share/doc/Debian/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.html10:12
Cheticwhat the hell.. where'd my soundcard go?!10:13
nickthedick!disco10:13
ubotunickthedick: I don't know, could you explain it?10:13
thoreauputicompaul: which is now bookmarked of course...10:13
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r0dHawkeVIPER,  whats that lol10:13
carypfp, by the by, what is the -pl part of that command10:13
cary(its patching)10:13
carypfp, should i go ahead and apply those other patches on the website before compiling?10:14
r0dcary,  you still trying to patch your kernel10:14
HawkeVIPERr0d: back in the day before the internet... Bulletin Boards were huge, 9600baud was a modem speed, roughly 1/4 the speed of 28.810:14
cdc i ve installed ubuntu but i am new to this X-Org so i get display with huge fonts and huge icons how do i configure my desktop for 1024*76810:14
HawkeVIPERused to spend hours wardialling for BBSs10:14
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caryr0d, yes jerk. and for your information its patching now. [sniff nose and point it to the sky] 10:14
r0dHawkeVIPER,  my god. thats smoking10:14
caryr0d (told you im new)10:14
HawkeVIPERoh ya10:14
r0dcary,  meant nothing by it man10:14
r0djust asking10:14
caryr0d (im just kidding too)10:14
xedWho wants to help me fix this lock up on login/start up issue?10:14
HawkeVIPERliek fastar then j00r AY DEE ESS EHL10:15
HawkeVIPERkthx10:15
HawkeVIPER=P10:15
r0d;)10:15
pfpcary: the patch file contains file names and paths, the -p<number> tells patch the depth of dirs to strip from those paths10:15
caryr0d (im fairly sarcastic but thats doesnt translate well)10:15
ompaulthoreauputic, not installed by default - maybe it should be10:15
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drummer87Someone heelp mee... i've donesomething bad and i dunno how to fix it.. my panel has no applets and i get an error when adding them: "The panel encountered a problem while loading 'OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet'."10:15
TokenBadis there a way to label a dir to a user?10:16
carypfp, shoudl it still be patching?10:16
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TokenBadlike a command?10:16
cdccould some one tell me how to change the resolution in Ubuntu?10:16
r0dno i just didnt read "yes jerk" and blocked everthing else out.10:16
xedMy words always get lost in awkward conversations.10:16
caryr0d (hope i didnt offend)10:16
HawkeVIPERTokenBad: you mean set the perms to a user?10:16
HawkeVIPERor?10:16
ompaulgota shoot10:16
cdci am getting huge fonts and huge icons so please kindly help me10:16
linuxboyhow do I plaf flash? when I install it, it needs ruby...10:16
thoreauputicompaul: well, as HawkeVIPER says, it's available on line - there's a copy linked from debian.org for example10:16
pfpcary: ah, made a typo.. ctrl-c it10:16
TokenBadyeah like say uploads is a user..and want the dir to be set to his user level10:16
r0dso how far are you cary ?10:16
CheticHow do I change which soundcard is the default?10:16
Cheticwhich sound device10:16
TokenBadwhich happens to be 100110:16
carypfp, done. now what10:16
pfpcary: then: patch -p1 < ~/Desktop/patchfile10:17
HawkeVIPERTokenBad: chmod -R 1001:groupid dirname10:17
drummer87it happened either after i compiled a app for sensors or installed another app from atp-get10:17
carydone, apparently, pfp10:17
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Eighthmy box has been randomly locking up and now apache isn't working.  i checked out the logs and found that libkrb53 appears to be broken.  how do i fix it?10:17
drummer87pretty sure one of those is the culprit.. is there a way i can restore previous configs for the panel?10:17
xedHawkeVIPER: want to help me out?10:18
caryr0d, im not really sure. patch one seems to be applied. i may (?) be applying more, but i dont rightly know10:18
HawkeVIPERxed: what with sir?10:18
linuxboypfp: make kpkg ?10:18
TokenBadwhen did chmod -R 1001:1001 uploads110:18
TokenBadit gives me invalid10:18
HawkeVIPERgroup10:18
HawkeVIPERyeah10:18
HawkeVIPERgrep 1001 /etc/passwd10:18
linuxboypfp: http://wiki.clug.org.za/clugwiki/index.php/How_do_I_compile_my_own_kernel_into_a_deb%3F10:18
HawkeVIPERfind his group id10:18
carypfp, i dont knwo about these other patches. my fn key seems to work as it shoudl10:18
drummer87:(10:18
HawkeVIPERit'll be like 1001:groupidhere:blah:blah10:18
xedHawkeVIPER: I need help with this login lockup issue I'm having..10:18
vHintswenhey10:18
vHintsweni need help!10:18
vHintswenmy mouse isn't working on Ubuntu10:19
drummer87can noone help me??10:19
carypfp, but hey, id rather my cpu be running on full than crippled10:19
TokenBaduploads:x:1001:1001:uploads,uploads10:19
CheticAll my audio applications use the wrong /dev/dsp device, how do I change which one is default?10:19
Eighthdrummer87: be patient... you will get the help you need10:19
r0dvHintswen,  what type of mouse. ps/2 usb?10:19
xedHawkeVIPER: The screen locks up as soon as login screen comes up in gnome..10:19
pfpcary: hmm, if it ain't broken, no need to fix... that cpu patch migh be a good idea though10:19
Eighthdrummer87: lots of problems, few gurus10:19
carypfp, roger10:19
drummer87point taken10:19
vHintswenps210:19
pfpcary: and anything else you'd like to add, heh10:19
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microhaxoguys10:20
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cdci am unable to configure my X Server10:20
HawkeVIPERxed: when you boot, add init 3 on the extensions line10:20
r0ddid you look in your /dev folder10:20
cdci am getting huge fonts and icons10:20
carypfp, i'd love to add lots of stuff but i havnt a clue what those things are10:20
vHintswen?10:20
microhaxoi have downloaded tux racer from the synaptic deal but where the hell did it install it?10:20
HawkeVIPERthat should get you into the shell10:20
cdci want it in 1024 * 768 resolution10:20
jesse1thoreaupitc: thanks for your help hopefully i can get those to install well im off cya10:20
caryso, same command then for hte new patch i assume10:20
cdchow do i change it10:20
xedHawkeVIPER: what do you mean "add" .. how do I go about doing this?10:20
cdccould some one please tell me ?10:20
TokenBadHawkeVIPER, uploads:x:1001:1001:uploads,uploads10:20
jesse1microhax: did u click apply?10:20
TokenBadso his id is 1001 right?10:20
HawkeVIPERmmph10:20
vHintswen..?10:20
HawkeVIPERwhat was the exact error TokenBad10:20
microhaxoyea i did10:21
pfpcary: same command, yep10:21
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jesse1mircohax: did u refresh the gnomepanel?10:21
TokenBadinvalid mode string10:21
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r0dvHintswen,  thats where your devices are stored. look for /dev/psaux10:21
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carydone10:21
vHintsweni can't do anything!10:21
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vHintswenlol10:21
r0d?10:21
pfplinuxboy: thanks10:21
HawkeVIPERduh10:21
HawkeVIPERI'm a tard tonight10:21
HawkeVIPERmy bad10:21
vHintsweni think i can login but after that nothing happens10:21
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cdci am unable to set my configuration to 1024*768 resolution10:21
cdchow do i change it10:21
microhaxono10:21
linuxboypfp: hope it helps10:21
microhaxolol10:21
HawkeVIPERchown -R 1001:1001 dir/10:21
r0dvHintswen,  as long as you can use bash your ok10:21
cdc i ve changed my xorg.conf too10:21
vHintswenit just shows a background or something and that's all10:21
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HawkeVIPERweee... too much coffee and no sleep... just rocks10:22
cdcwhat else needs to be done10:22
vHintswenbash?10:22
r0dvHintswen,  thats the command prompt10:22
cdcHawkeVIPER, could you help me please?10:22
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HawkeVIPERmmmph, it's not tonight anymore... it's 11:20 =/10:22
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vHintswenwell what if i can't cause i dunno how to use ubuntu10:22
microhaxoi still dont see tux racer?10:22
som1ok, i cant start ubuntu (no dev/console). now that i tried installing netbsd, i get the same problem.10:22
HawkeVIPERcdc: I'm not an xorg guru10:22
som1what could it be?10:22
vHintswenlol lemmi go try again...10:22
microhaxowhere does synaptic install tux racer to?10:22
Eighthhow can i rebuild a library without uninstalling it?10:22
HawkeVIPERmicrohaxo: the tuxracer name changed10:22
pfpcary: probably that therm patch is a good idea too, since the author recommends it10:22
drummer87cdc, system > prefs > screen resolution10:22
r0dvHintswen,  you said you cant see your mouse. but does linux start for you10:22
TokenBadi get operation not permitted10:22
carypfp, all patches (save the fn key) are done10:22
HawkeVIPERmake sure you sudo10:23
microhaxowhat do you mean?10:23
cdcdrummer87, that does not start10:23
HawkeVIPERsudo chown -R 1001:1001 dir/10:23
carypfp, one step ahead (first time ever!)10:23
TokenBadI am in root terminal10:23
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HawkeVIPERugh10:23
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microhaxohawkviper10:23
jesse1microhaxo: it should be in the games section10:23
microhaxonot there10:23
microhaxoinstalled it fine10:23
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cdcdrummer87, i manually edited the xorg.conf and changed to 1024 but it still starts with 640 * 48010:23
cdcdrummer87, what do i do10:23
HawkeVIPERiirc10:23
jesse1microhaxo: did u refresh the gnomepanel by in the terminal type killall gnomepanel10:23
HawkeVIPERit's called 4racer now10:23
HawkeVIPERor some such crap10:24
microhaxoi did10:24
som1ok, i cant start ubuntu (no dev/console). now that i tried installing netbsd, i get the same problem. what could it be? i updated kernel with synpatic10:24
microhaxoCTRL alt10:24
microhaxobackspace10:24
microhaxothat good enufF?10:24
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hondjecdc: In your monitor section of xorg.conf, you need to futz with the horiz/vert (assuming you restarted X already)10:24
drummer87cdc, does that app come up? if you've changed xorg.conf there should be an option for the res you added in that app10:24
TokenBadguess will have to format and reinstall and maybe have it work right after that10:24
TokenBadcause its not working now10:24
cdcdrummer87, that screen resolution application does not come up at all10:24
vHintswenr0d, yes it starts10:24
HawkeVIPERTokenBad: there is no reason for you to have to format and reinstall10:24
vHintsweni just loged in10:24
HawkeVIPERon an issue that small10:24
HawkeVIPERthat is WAY overkill10:25
hondjesudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange gives the ranges for the horiz/vert stuff, fwiw10:25
TokenBadwell been trying to get it to work for days now10:25
TokenBadand I have had a couple people try to help10:25
TokenBadand none can figure it out10:25
vHintsweni see my mouse pointer but moving my mouse doesn't move the pointer10:25
HawkeVIPERTokenBad: ls -al dirname10:25
hondjeTokenBad: what's up?10:25
HawkeVIPERpaste the output here10:25
TokenBadall I could figure out is maybe bad mount settings on the drive that has that dir on it10:25
r0dvHintswen,  ok now do ' ls /dev | grep psaux'10:25
r0dfirst log in10:26
vHintswenwhere?10:26
r0d;)10:26
vHintswenk10:26
microhaxoHawkeVIPER why cant i find TUX RACER?10:26
microhaxolol10:26
som1microhaxo they said name changed10:26
microhaxoto what?10:26
TokenBaddrwxr-xr-x   20 tokenbad tokenbad      32768 2005-06-18 01:13 uploads110:26
som1<fn~HawkeVIPER> it's called 4racer now10:26
drummer87cdc, hmm.. can't help u there, it should come up. that's where you change the res, maybe a problem with the app10:26
microhaxobah10:26
drummer87cdc, try running gnome-display-properties from terminal and see if there are any errors pointing to why it's not coming up10:27
r0dvHintswen,  are you in the graphic's interface(gui)10:27
vHintswen' ls /dev | grep psaux'i dunno where i'm typing that!10:27
HawkeVIPERsom1: you missed the 'or some such shit'10:27
microhaxoi dont see that in the synaptic deal?10:27
vHintswenyeah GUI10:27
som1sudo apt-cache search racer10:27
Eighthhow can i repair a broken library without uninstalling it?10:27
thoreauputicmicrohaxo: if the package is called tuxracer, do dpkg -L tuxracer | grep bin in a terminal to see where the binary is10:27
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r0dok hit 'alt ctrl backspace'10:27
HawkeVIPERmy bad10:27
HawkeVIPERppracer10:27
carypfp, now what?10:27
HawkeVIPER=)10:27
microhaxoBS10:27
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vHintswenand then type that?10:27
microhaxouser/games/tuxracer10:27
microhaxoits not there10:27
microhaxoim tellin you10:28
r0dlog in then type it10:28
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HawkeVIPERmicrohaxo: type `ppracer`10:28
cdchondje, where do i specify the vertical and horizontal sync of the monitor in xorg.conf i dont see any default parameters passed for Horizontal and veritcal sync10:28
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TokenBadHawkeVIPER, as far as I know that settings should be letting people upload10:28
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microhaxoin what hawkeviper?10:28
pfpcary: i was reading some docs on how to make this easy (i know how to compile a kernel 'by hand', but theres a more automated method)10:28
vHintswenso i press ctrl+alt+backspace b4 i login?10:28
HawkeVIPERa shell...10:28
thoreauputicmicrohaxo: just type "tuxracer" in term and it should run10:28
microhaxok10:28
microhaxolo10:28
r0dyea10:28
HawkeVIPERthoreauputic: it's not called tuxracer anymore10:28
vHintswenk10:28
hondjecdc: /msg me and I'll walk you through it10:28
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r0dit gives your the command prompt, bash10:28
HawkeVIPERit was renamed upstream a while back10:28
vHintswenhow can i log out?10:28
carypfp, ahha. sorry to rush. i appreciate your help very much10:28
thoreauputicHawkeVIPER: OK10:28
r0dno dont worry about that vHintswen  just log in again10:29
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r0dit will ask you when u hit that button combo10:29
r0dctrl alt backspace10:29
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cdchondje, one sec i have made some changes let me see whether it works now otherwise i ll be here again and i ll msg you10:29
thoreauputicHawkeVIPER: strange, i wonder why ?10:29
vHintsweno.o i'm already loged in with GUI so how to i logout?10:29
hondjecdc: okay10:29
vHintswenoh ok10:29
cdcthanks for your reply and offering help :-)10:29
TokenBadhondje, same problem as before..people can't upload to the dir on the mounted drive10:29
hondjeTokenBad: oh yes, and it's not mounted ro and all that :-/10:29
TokenBad??10:30
woogieot: opera website down for anyone else?10:30
drummer87is it ok to remove ubuntu-desktop but then install it again? i want to completely remove gnome-panel then reinstall it10:30
hondjeTokenBad: when you type 'mount' w/out arguements, it doesn't show the drive being mounted ro10:30
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drummer87ubuntu-desktop must come down with it10:30
TokenBadoh10:30
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TokenBadumm10:31
hondjeLike, for example, 'tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,noexec)'10:31
hondjeit says rw, not ro10:31
microhaxokewl10:31
cdchondje, got it :-)10:32
vHintsweno.o10:32
cdcnow its perfect10:32
TokenBadok let me test something10:32
TokenBadbrb10:32
TokenBadhope10:32
hondjecdc: awesome :)10:32
cdchondje, thanks a lot for suggesting that10:32
vHintsweni presed ctrl+alt+backspack sace, entered my username and it just went to next line10:32
cdcand now the screen resolution application comes up10:32
hondjecdc: No problem, if you find oddness w/ your refresh rates in the future, that's probably it right there10:32
r0dvHintswen, now password10:33
cdcit should be the other way round . The Screen resolution application should come up before the screen resolution is configured and not after everything is done in the hard way :-)10:33
pfpcary: ok.... you need to configure the kernel sources before compiling, do: cp /boot/config-`uname -r` .config10:33
hondjehehe10:33
r0dvHintswen,  type in the command i told you10:33
pfpcary: in the linux-2.6... directory10:33
caryoka10:33
microhaxoguys, i have dloaded Azureus10:33
microhaxocan you help me install it?10:33
pfpcary: then: make oldconfig10:34
microhaxoits a .bz210:34
hondjemicrohaxo: you can't apt-get install azureus?10:34
microhaxono10:34
microhaxoits .bz2?10:34
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microhaxooh10:34
microhaxono i didnt add the crap for it10:34
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caryi did that, got no return. is that okay?10:34
microhaxoits not in synaptic10:34
thoreauputicmicrohaxo: use the repos, don't just download stuff randomly10:34
hondjeoh look, I don't have it either10:34
thoreauputic!repositories10:35
ubotu[repositories]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto10:35
carycary@lnx:~/kernel/linux-source-2.6.11$ make oldconfig10:35
carymake: gcc: Command not found10:35
cary/home/cary/kernel/linux-source-2.6.11/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc: command not found10:35
CheticHow do I use my webcam? With TVTime or what? I have nooo idea what to do to use it here.. (no, I don't want to use gnomemeeting)10:35
microhaxoRepos10:35
thoreauputicmicrohaxo: read ubotu's URL10:35
microhaxoi dloaded it from Azureus's site10:35
microhaxoamd64 the only 64 version10:35
cdccould some one tell me how to set up apt resources10:35
pfpcary: ah... you need some tools10:35
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cdchondje, i had a look in sources.list and everything is commented out10:35
hondjecdc: I have mine posted online, if you want to see 'em10:35
cdchondje, so which one should i uncomment10:36
carypfp...weeeeeee! toosl10:36
som1ill ask again :p10:36
cdchondje, yes give me the link :-)10:36
som1i cant start ubuntu (no dev/console). now that i tried installing netbsd, i get the same problem. what could it be? i updated kernel with synpatic10:36
thoreauputiccdc: just uncomment the lines that start with "deb"10:36
microhaxohere is the file  i have10:36
microhaxoAzureus_2.3.0.2_linux.AMD64.tar.bz210:36
microhaxohow can i install?10:36
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thoreauputiccdc: if you want multiverse, add the word multiverse to the universe lines10:36
pfpcary: sudo apt-get install build-essential kernel-package fakeroot10:36
hondjecdc: That'll give you all the ubuntu stuff, backports and other stuff isn't in mine10:36
kmikzcan somebody help me with my sound problem in ubuntu?10:36
hondjeat least in what I have online10:37
thoreauputiccdc: then reload/update10:37
som1microhaxo first decompress it, untar it. configure, makefile or just follow a readme10:37
som1?:)10:37
lsuactiafnercary " apt-get build-essentials10:37
microhaxok10:37
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caryi assume "i wnat to continue"10:37
gorthaughi i've a problem with my sound... it's a nforce2 integrated...10:37
caryits asking for some cd10:37
som1y!10:37
caryi guess my install cd?10:37
som1change sources.list10:37
vHintswen' ls /dev | grep psaux' with the '?10:38
kmikzproblems with sound here too10:38
som1cary vim /etc/apt/sources.list, comment the first uncommented line. thats ur cd10:38
lsuactiafneralsamixer and unmute your sound..10:38
caryi put the cd it. it seems to be working pfp10:38
gorthaugi've beenn installed ut2004 but i don't have sound in the game!! it use openal10:38
kmikzhey done that.. not muted10:38
CheticHow do I install my webcam as a video device?10:38
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pfpgood..10:38
caryback to prompt. ig uess thats done, pfp?10:38
kmikzalso checked in the gnome volume control10:39
thoreauputicgorthaug: try sudo killall esd before starting it10:39
pfpcary: yep, now the previous command10:39
carysom1, that is basically the contents of the install disk?10:39
lsuactiafnerChetic : depends on your webcam, chances are its not supported by the kernel10:39
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som1cary yeah, it tries to use the cd first10:39
TokenBadhondje, I have it set to ro now10:39
Cheticlsuactiafner, so I can't use the thing for anything but a microphone? that sucks..10:39
r0dvHintswen,  no quotes10:39
gorthaugthoreauputic it's works but...10:39
TokenBadand he gets read only error now when try to upload10:39
hondjeTokenBad: that means read only, that might be why no one can write to it :)10:39
vHintswenk10:39
xed_blehMy ISP hates me.10:39
cary CPU frequency translation statistics (CPU_FREQ_STAT) [Y/n/m/?]  (NEW)10:39
microhaxoerr10:39
TokenBadwell it was set to rw10:39
carypfp, what is that?10:40
Cheticxed_bleh, mine hates me too10:40
TokenBadI just now changed it10:40
carypfp, i assume i hit yes...?10:40
microhaxoim new to linux, i Unzipped the contents to a folder10:40
microhaxothere is a .sh file10:40
microhaxoi ran it10:40
xed_blehChetic: I don't think you understand.. they hate me with a passion.10:40
microhaxobut it runs and closes the terminal10:40
lsuactiafnerChetic : as i said lspci and lsusb and check the chipset on the cam, from there google brandname +linux on google and yah10:40
microhaxoi dunno what it did10:40
thoreauputicgorthaug: esd is a pain - a lot of apps expect to use oss and esd locks the sound system10:40
microhaxonow what do i do?10:40
carypfp, ahh..its something about the thermal thin10:40
pfpho hmm, anyone know where's the default config for ubuntu's 2.6.11 source?10:40
hondjexed_bleh: you can comcast too, eh?10:40
caryg10:40
xed_blehChetic: They like to mess with my head.. my tiny little head.. at 4:30 in the MORNING10:40
Cheticxed_bleh, yeah mine too.. I've destroyed alot for them..10:40
hondjelousy ISP X-(10:40
som1microhaxo is there a readme in there?10:40
microhaxolol yea10:40
lsuactiafnercary : are you making a kernel?10:40
carylsuactiafner, soon, i guess.10:41
TokenBadhondje, I set it to ro just now..it was set to rw10:41
som1microhaxo its much better to follow it :p10:41
microhaxoi did10:41
microhaxoand10:41
carylsuactiafner, in the process more like. i have never done this before10:41
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microhaxonoting happened10:41
microhaxoits a small readme10:41
lsuactiafnercary : if you are dont ask us how to do it.. go read a HOWTO on the internet10:41
xed_blehhondje: I have Rogers. its like "Sweet, now that he's signed the contract, we don't gotta actually PROVIDE him the an ISP, he just needs .. some sort of blinking light modem thingy"10:41
microhaxolol10:41
hondjeTokenBad: oh, I'd assume rw is what you'd want, if they can't write to it10:41
cameronhey yall!10:41
som1try to..use it10:41
TokenBadwell it was set to rw10:41
som1lol10:41
hondjexed_bleh: Sounds like the .ca version of comcast :)10:41
TokenBadand they still couldn't10:41
cameroni ment to not say "yall" but actually hey all10:41
hondjeTokenBad: what are they using to upload?10:41
lsuactiafnermaking a kernel is a very very good idea but its not something i help ppl with, read up on it yourself10:41
TokenBadftp clients10:41
TokenBadwindows based client10:41
TokenBadlike cuteftp, bpftp10:42
TokenBadshit like that10:42
hondjeTokenBad: perhaps it's application setting, then10:42
lsuactiafnerTokenBad : whats this?10:42
TokenBadno its on my end10:42
hondjecan you scp to the mount?10:42
xed_blehhondje: comcast counds like a us version of rogers...10:42
xed_blehAnywho, cable sucks. =(10:42
cameronhey guys, what is the name of that resource monitor bar thing i see on the right side of everonyes desktop, can i get that for ubuntu?10:42
carypfp, i sent you the whole thing. i assume its just asking about proccesor stuff. like asking if iw ant to do that10:42
pfpcary: you can just go w/ the defaults, ie. press enter for everything10:42
microhaxowhat the hell10:42
microhaxo"Azureus TERMINATED."10:42
hondjexed_bleh: 10+ times today I've lost connection for 10 minuts or so10:42
lsuactiafnerTokenBad : use proftpd... as a server10:42
caryPFP, ROGER10:42
caryyikes..caps10:42
xed_blehI think I'm going to have to format and re install Ubuntu =(10:42
TokenBadhow would i unstall the shit that is on there now10:42
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TokenBadso it not auto start10:43
pfpheh10:43
hondjeapt-get remove --purge <foo>10:43
lsuactiafnercameron : gkgremlin or something...10:43
xed_blehhondje: You're a lucky one eh?10:43
hondjexed_bleh: Blessed greatly10:43
TokenBadfoo?10:43
carypfp, done with that bit10:43
xed_blehI've lost it over 20 times already.. just TODAY.. and its 4:30 AM RIGHT NOW10:43
hondjefoo == general variable10:43
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cameronthanks suacrianfer10:43
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hondjexed_bleh: wow, I'm so lucky ;)10:43
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microhaxowth, when i run that stuff it says10:43
microhaxoAzureus TERMINATED.10:43
xed_blehI'll get you back one day Rogers, I'll get you back!10:43
microhaxodammit10:43
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xed_blehSo.. I'm sort of screwed now10:44
Eighthhow can i repair a broken library without uninstalling it?10:44
vHintswennothing happened10:44
xed_blehI have to re-format, re-install windows, ubuntu, reconfigure all this shit.. and possibly cry a bit..10:44
TokenBadsays can't find the package pure-ftp or pureftp10:44
lsuactiafnercameron : look into lm-sensors10:44
rob^xed_bleh, theres no need to reinstall windows :P10:44
cameronlsuactiafner: google comes up with nothing for gkgremlin, and nothing for gtkgremlin10:44
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lsuactiafnerEighth : just reinstall over the old one and hope for the best10:44
cameronlsuactiafner: oh ok i will10:44
xed_blehrob^: Yes, there is. I have to make use of the TV Tuner card..10:45
vHintswenr0d, nothing happened10:45
lsuactiafneryeh forgot how to spell it10:45
lsuactiafneralso checkin for it now lol10:45
rob^xed_bleh, no linux driver?10:45
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lsuactiafnerive bene compilin a kernel on my p166 for the last 16hrs.. not a small kernel10:45
gorthaugthoreauputic: but I want to listen to mp3 while game10:45
xed_blehrob^: I doubt it.. even if there was, I don't know if any software .. actually being able to let me watch TV in Ubuntu.10:45
TokenBadstupid program..if can't uninstall it...will have to reinstall10:46
xed_blehof any software...*10:46
vHintsweno.o is r0d gone?10:46
lsuactiafnergoto freshmeat.net check there10:46
a-l-ehello, i'm re-trying to start on my ubuntu on a firewire disk... now, i have to manipulate some linuxrc... but i'm not that confident with it... is there anybody able to able me or can anybody give me a good link to follow?10:46
lsuactiafnerfor programs to look @ tv10:46
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pfpcary: ok, you should be ready to compile: make-kpkg kernel_image10:46
r0dvHintswen,  are you sure your mouse is plugged in? mice shouldnt be a problem10:46
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thoreauputicgorthaug: well, if you feel adventurous, check the "fix sound" howto listed on http://ubuntuguide.org10:46
xed_blehUbuntu: WHY do you hate me!?10:46
learn25hi all ;-)10:46
carypfp, from what dir10:46
rob^xed_bleh, what type of card is it?10:47
vHintswenit is... it worked when i had windows on there10:47
vHintsweni'll check just in case...10:47
pfpcary: in the same linux-2.6.xx dir10:47
r0dvHintswen,  you did 'ls /dev | grep psaux'10:47
xed_blehrob^: I'm about to put this old ATI Rage 128 Pro in there..10:47
pfpcary: compiling will take quite a while then10:47
xed_blehIts going to be sweet. My pentium II will be the ULTIMATE ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM!10:47
carypfp, doing it now presumably10:47
TokenBadhondje, says can't find that package10:47
learn25how to install a plugin that will crossfade songs in xmms?10:47
TokenBadbut know its installed10:47
hondjeTokenBad: what package?10:47
xed_blehI swear to you.. Ubuntu hates me.10:47
TokenBadthe pure-ftp10:47
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hondjeTokenBad: oh, I don't think that was me :)10:48
xed_blehUbuntu.. hates me.10:48
hondjeI use vsftpd, or just sftp10:48
pfpcary: it should also print out lots of stuff; don't get scared :)10:48
thoreauputicgorthaug: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly10:48
learn25hi! How to install a plugin that will crossfade songs in xmms?10:48
TokenBadhondje apt-get remove --purge <foo>10:48
lsuactiafnerpfp : we both know he will screw his boot partition and his backup kernel up..guiding someone on irc is a bad idea, make em read a HOWTO10:49
carypfp, oh its printing. its printing like the wind blows10:49
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hondjeTokenBad: <foo> is whatever you're trying to remove10:49
TokenBadI know10:49
TokenBadgot that part10:49
vHintsweno.o it's weird10:49
hondjeoh, 10-410:49
TokenBadand when put pure-ftp in10:49
vHintsweni thought it ps210:49
HawkeVIPERtry pure-ftpd10:49
vHintswenit's a 9 pin(female) thing10:49
rob^xed_bleh, do a search on google for "ubuntu ATI Rage 128 Pro" on how to install the drivers for your tv card, and check out howto: http://www.freeos.com/articles/3007/10:49
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vHintswengeeze it's strange10:49
lsuactiafnerlearn25 : goto freshmeat.net and type xmms and look @ related software.. or apt-cache search cross and search xmms10:50
HawkeVIPERvHintswen: a serial connector10:50
TokenBadnow I feel stupid10:50
vHintswenyeah that's it lol10:50
TokenBadheheh10:50
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vHintswen' ls /dev | grep psaux'10:50
pfplsuactiafner: hmm, you could be right, however, kernel .debs should install cleanly to grub afaik10:50
HawkeVIPERI went into a store and asked for a null modem cable10:50
vHintswenwhat's stranger is that it doesn't ask for my password10:50
rob^xed_bleh, there is two different tv viewer programs for linux, Kwintv and xawtv10:50
HawkeVIPERand they just looked at me like I was the devil spawn or something10:50
xed_blehrob^: right now, I need to actually get ubuntu WORKING10:50
HawkeVIPERvHintswen: have you already entered it in the last 5 mins?10:50
vHintswenit asks for username and after i enter that it don't ask for password10:50
vHintswenno10:50
rob^xed_bleh, whats the problem your having10:51
HawkeVIPERoh10:51
kmikzok.... trying to make the sound to work on ubuntu for 2 days now...... and no, the sound is not muted in alsamixer, nor is it muted anywhere else... tried to kill esd, but to no avail.........followed the instructions in http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly but no luck there either... i googled and i wikied and it doesnt work... HELP10:51
vHintswenwould it make a difference?10:51
r0dvHintswen,  well linux see's your mouse10:51
vHintswenso...10:51
r0dit might be a X problem10:51
lsuactiafnerkmikz : this is where you hit the ppl making your kernel over the head..10:51
vHintswenmeaning?10:51
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lsuactiafnerkmikz : prolly you kernel is loading the wrong module.. so lspci check what sound card you got and the google that +linux10:52
r0dwhats the command that lets your configure your X configurations?10:52
lsuactiafnerrmmod the modules you dont need, and modprobe the correct sound module10:52
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pfplsuactiafner: i figured he wouldn't understand everything from a howto, so this would be way to get started10:52
r0dvHintswen,  i forget the command, its been awhile since i had to10:52
Eighthwhen i try to install libkrb53, dpkg says i have unmet dependencies.  when i use apt-get -f install, it wants to remove 108 packages... someone wanna walk me thru reinstalling this lib, plz?10:52
vHintswenmaybe installing linux was a bad idea :(10:53
EighthvHintswen: i doubt it very much10:53
r0dhld a sec vHintswen . you need to research more too.10:53
kmikzlsuactiafner, thx i'll try that too... it's a SIS chip on my mobo10:53
lsuactiafnerpfp : ive told many ppl how to make kernels.. doesnt work on irc..10:53
thoreauputicr0d: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:53
r0d sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:54
lsuactiafnerpfp : beter to make em read a howto, screw it up 3 times and then somehow they get it right10:54
TokenBadok who has install proftpd?10:54
pfplsuactiafner: heh, k10:54
r0dthx thoreauputic . vHintswen  use that command10:54
hondjeI work with a guy, has a masters in some CS stuff, can't roll his own kernel for the life of him10:54
lsuactiafnerpfp : just make sure he has got a backup kernel and that his boot sector is updated ect10:54
HawkeVIPERmost university fucks are like that10:54
HawkeVIPERall the technical experience of a dead snail10:55
lsuactiafnerhondje : my p166 boxen is so old the new kernels dont work on it anymore10:55
vHintswen?10:55
hondjeHawkeVIPER: Hey now, I'm a university fuck :)10:55
vHintswensudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?10:55
HawkeVIPERhondje: present company excepted10:55
HawkeVIPER=P10:55
TokenBadlsuactiafner, you installed proftpd?10:55
hondjeHawkeVIPER: Though not computer university fuck ;-)10:55
r0d*bangs head on wall*10:55
HawkeVIPERwell there ya go10:55
r0d sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:55
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lsuactiafnerhondje : so my default .config doesnt work, but the vmlinuz one from slackware worked.. so somewhere my .config needs one setting changed, like access to pci via bios not direct once caused shit..10:55
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xed_blehDEAR GOD!10:55
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lsuactiafnerso i'm compiling a huge kernel now and taking out what aint needed 1 by 110:55
hondjelsuactiafner: ouch, at least you had the slack .config to use10:55
lsuactiafnerbeen compiling 16hrs10:56
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xed_blehI have a 12 hour shift today and I am seeing the sun come up ... AGAIN >.<10:56
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HawkeVIPERI dropped out of college... so I get annoyed at the fact that people who know absolutely fuck all can get sysadmin jobs and put me out of work10:56
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lsuactiafnerwow its done coooooll10:56
HawkeVIPERoh, and get paid more10:56
TokenBadshould I do proftpd as inetd or standalone?10:56
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hondjeHawkeVIPER: yeah, that probably gets old fast10:56
HawkeVIPERTokenBad: up to you10:56
TokenBadwhats difference?10:56
hondjeHawkeVIPER: ironically, they get pissed when a guy like me, with no formal computer education, edges in on their turf :)10:56
HawkeVIPERone loads with inetd... one loads with the system...10:56
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lsuactiafneralso the p166 doesnt have a screen so everytime i screw a kernel i got to slug it up and get a sreen to it..10:56
HawkeVIPERhondje: it's because they know that they know nothing10:57
lsuactiafnervery annoyin10:57
HawkeVIPERI prove it daily10:57
vHintswennothing happens10:57
Eighthlsuactiafner: how should i go about reinstalling that lib?10:57
rob^ok, this might be a stupid question, but are there .debs available for americas army?10:57
hondjeHawkeVIPER: They know lots of useless stuff :-)10:57
TokenBadso no advantage of one over the other?10:57
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hondjerob^: no, but the installer works fine10:57
lsuactiafnerhmmk cant reboot now.. stupid r7 callmore..10:57
HawkeVIPERhondje: like the black box diagram of computing...10:57
vHintswen:(10:57
r0ddpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:57
lsuactiafnerEighth : just apt-get install10:57
rob^hondje, thought so :)10:57
cdci am unable to use apt itself10:57
r0dit should vHintswen10:57
lsuactiafneroverwrite everything10:57
hondjeHawkeVIPER: or basic digital logic, which is really lame :)10:57
HawkeVIPERlol10:57
cdchondje, help me i am unable to use apt itself10:57
hondjeomfg! xor is neat!10:57
r0ddont know understand how ubuntu cant see your mouse10:57
HawkeVIPERthey spend hours learning ASM10:57
hondjecdc: hrm, what errors?10:57
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HawkeVIPERbut don't know what it's used for10:57
TokenBadSetting up proftpd (1.2.10-8) ...10:57
TokenBadProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration.10:57
TokenBadwtf!!10:58
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hondjecdc: I can't use dcc10:58
hondjecdc: just /msg hondje <stuff>10:58
HawkeVIPERand they develop these weird fantasies that they can code in C10:58
HawkeVIPERand it's all back asswards10:58
hondjeyeah10:58
lsuactiafnerTokenBad : edit /etc/proftpd.conf the standalone inetd lines10:58
r0dmaybe someone here w/ more experience w/ that problem can help you in here vHintswen10:58
HawkeVIPERand they wonder why it seg fault10:58
hondjeHawkeVIPER: I get them back, I write shit in fortran :D10:58
Eighthlsuactiafner: when i do, apt reports unmet dependencies.. when i use -f install, it wants to remove 108 packages10:58
cdcW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems10:58
cdcE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.10:58
hondjecdc: ack, query :)10:58
HawkeVIPERhondje: my favorite is to write bash script in <50 lines to do what their 300 line C prog did10:58
vHintswendon'10:59
vHintswent work10:59
thoreauputiccdc: and did you do what it said?10:59
lsuactiafnerEighth : apt might be tryingto install a new version of the package.. and the new version aint compatable hehehehe10:59
xed_blehSO.. installing Ubuntu on this pentium II maybe wasn't the greatest idea, I guess =(10:59
vHintswenno commands r working10:59
kmikzwell it seems i got it working10:59
HawkeVIPERhondje: syn, reply =P10:59
lsuactiafnerEighth : you be teh screwed, find the old version on your cd..10:59
hondjeHawkeVIPER: Now I can work away from them, it's amusing to watch stuff like that ;-)10:59
HawkeVIPERwee back asswards r0x0rs10:59
cdcthoreauputic, yes uncommented out everything10:59
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kmikzi had to mute the capture monitor10:59
rob^xed_bleh, if you want to ask a question, just ask10:59
microhaxoguys, i have a WINEcvs.sh file, whenever i try to run it it says command not found?10:59
HawkeVIPERmmm... I get to deal with customers10:59
HawkeVIPERwho think they know it all too10:59
Eighthlsuactiafner: is there some way i can tell apt to forget about removing those packages?10:59
vHintswenafter i press ctrl+alt+backspacve is says Ubuntu username:10:59
hondjeNow I just make pretty pictures w/ gnuplot and the like11:00
lsuactiafnerxed_bleh : ubuntu is for desktops.. slackware is for p2 servers.. with no screen card monitor ect11:00
vHintsweni enter my username and press enter11:00
thoreauputiccdc: no - did you run " sudo apt-get update" ?11:00
vHintswenshuldn't is say ubuntu password: now?11:00
HawkeVIPERhondje: I'm a lvl III sysadmin for a webhost11:00
vHintswenit*11:00
lsuactiafnerEighth : wish i knew, apt is very annoyin sometimes11:00
r0dvHintswen,  yea11:00
vHintswencause it doesn't11:00
cdcthoreauputic, yes11:00
Eighthagreed11:00
cdci did run it11:00
hondjeHawkeVIPER: technically I'm some sort of data analyst11:00
lsuactiafnerok later.11:00
r0drun 'passwd'11:00
TokenBadlsuactiafner, edit it to what?11:00
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hondjeHawkeVIPER: but like most jobs, that's total BS :)11:00
HawkeVIPERindeed11:00
lsuactiafnerServerType                      standalone11:00
HawkeVIPERever asked the pimps if they know what 'analyst' means?11:00
lsuactiafner#ServerType                     inetd11:01
lsuactiafnerthe file /etc/proftpd.conf11:01
hondjecustomer gives data, and if it's up my alley I whip out smoe matlab/fortran/C++/gnuplot goodness and make a powerpoint11:01
TokenBadI just see servertype inetd11:01
vHintswennothing11:01
lsuactiafneranalyst is the guy who gets laid just for making leet money11:01
vHintswen>:(11:01
hondjebling ;-)11:01
christoshello. i see in syaptic [ackage manager that i have dvd+rw-tools installed. where are those tools?11:01
hondjeHopefully in a couple months I'll be teaching a math class instead11:01
HawkeVIPERmmm... I need to inject my salary somewhat11:01
HawkeVIPERneed to move inhouse somewhere11:01
lsuactiafnerTokenBad : so # the ServerType inetd and add the line ServerType standalone11:01
HawkeVIPERback to england me thinks11:01
bob2christos: 'dpkg -L dvd+rw-tools' will print out the files the package contains11:02
TokenBadoh11:02
pfpcary: i have to go (i'm moving), but i'll be around later today (or whatever the timezone)11:02
thoreauputicxed_bleh: FWIW, I have ubuntu running happily on a pentium 200mmx 64MB RAM (right next to me)11:02
microhaxoaww shit11:02
carypfp11:02
vHintswenomg i don't know why i bothered.11:02
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carywhat woudl be my next step be?11:02
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vHintswenalways stuffs up11:02
HawkeVIPERthoreauputic: I've got a FreeBSD 486 webserver11:02
lsuactiafneri have a p166 42mb ram with the original f00f bug!!11:02
HawkeVIPER=P11:02
lsuactiafnerit rocks11:02
microhaxowhats root password for dx9wine cvs?11:02
carywhat woudl be my next step be?, pfp11:02
microhaxoisnt it cvs?11:02
lsuactiafnergoonna mod the boxen to look really cool one day11:02
hondjesoekris!11:03
carypfp or is there some place that can show me where to go from here?11:03
hondjethose things are so cool11:03
TokenBadwhats command to try and restart it?11:03
thoreauputicHawkeVIPER: nice :)11:03
vHintswenr0d, nothing happens11:03
lsuactiafnergoing to show my kids in 20 yrs and tell em to fsck off and leave my leet pc alone11:03
HawkeVIPERthoreauputic: it's slung into a random rack at the DC11:03
hondjemy bud just swapped out the hdd with a big ol' CF drive, neatest little thing running OBSD11:03
vHintswennothing happens no matter what i type11:03
HawkeVIPERmore bandwidth than it could ever handle11:03
HawkeVIPERit was just to prove something to the idiot customers who complain that they don't have enough resources11:03
xed_blehI need to create an AI that can answer all questions.11:03
carypfp, and thank you so much.11:03
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hondjeHawkeVIPER: hehe11:04
lsuactiafnercary : if it doesnt reboot come hit pfp over the head11:04
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TokenBadlsuactiafner, whats command to try and restart proftpd now that edited?11:04
christosto burn dvd's should i install gnome baker or is there anything better?11:04
lsuactiafnerrun proftpd11:04
Eighthstupid broken stuff... now i have to reboot :/11:04
bob2christos: nautilus does it fine11:04
HawkeVIPERxcdroast, k3b...11:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone ever setup ubuntu on a p233?11:04
microhaxoGuys, im using a .sh to download DIRECTX9WINE, it is asking for the root password to dload the source, do yu guys know waht that password is?!11:04
lsuactiafnerChurcH_of_FoamY : i showed my p166 the cd and it started to cry.11:05
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: I have it running on a p20011:05
HawkeVIPERthoreauputic xed_bleh: FWIW, I have ubuntu running happily on a pentium 200mmx 64MB RAM (right next to me)11:05
HawkeVIPERah11:05
carylsuactiafner, hah. awesome. so at the end of this compiling it shoudl reboot?11:05
bob2microhaxo: you're running it wrong11:05
HawkeVIPERtoo late11:05
HawkeVIPERlol11:05
christosbob2: what about iso's?11:05
bob2microhaxo: run it under sudo11:05
microhaxok11:05
bob2christos: I don't know what you mean11:05
lsuactiafnercary : it shoudl but it wont. you got to edit grub or lilo now, ask pfp11:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm setting it up now on a compaq 233 with 64mb pc 10011:05
carybob2, hey. just saying hi. how areyou11:05
bob2christos: yo ucan right click on a cd image and select "write" to have nautilus write to a disk11:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYand it's actually working11:05
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ChurcH_of_FoamYO_o11:05
HawkeVIPERmmm11:05
bob2cary: good, thanks, your self?11:05
thoreauputicit's running fluxbox, not gnome, of course :)11:05
christosbob2: ok thanks!11:05
hondjenautilus cd burning is all hondje needs11:05
vHintswen...11:05
HawkeVIPERI should go reclaim ophelia11:05
xed_blehbob2's back?11:05
xed_blehhoooraaaaa11:05
hondjeit's the optimum method11:06
HawkeVIPERand install something on her11:06
carylsuactiafner, pfp is going bye bye for now. where can i go or who can i ask what the next step as after compiling11:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYwould fluxbox be easyer on the onboard vid card?11:06
vHintswen........................................................................................11:06
microhaxobob2 thanks11:06
xed_blehI think its time for me to do a clean format.11:06
HawkeVIPERChurcH_of_FoamY: yes11:06
carybob2, pretty well. its 4 am so im tired but hey..im compiling my first kernel!11:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYok11:06
bob2cary: hehehe11:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYi have never installed it is it easy?11:06
HawkeVIPERin fact11:06
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: or icewm, blackbox.. whatever11:06
lsuactiafnercary : read something. i'm going also.. google kernel compile HOWTO11:06
microhaxodammit11:06
HawkeVIPERI'm going to go get ophelia before work11:06
HawkeVIPERgimme something to do11:06
HawkeVIPERbbiab11:06
lsuactiafnerand i'm out..11:06
microhaxowhy the hell does this always happen11:06
carybob2, or rather pfp has been telling me what to do11:06
carylsuactiafner, thanks man.11:06
vHintsweno.o11:07
lsuactiafnersomeone help the poor guy..11:07
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carylsuactiafner, haha. i am cary the pitiful, apparently.11:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYWOW never herd a cd-rom make that noise before :/11:07
lsuactiafnercary : ask in a slackware channel. ubuntu ppl dont do things like kernels..11:07
bob2lsuactiafner: wtf11:07
bob2lsuactiafner: please don't spread such silly lies like that, thanks11:07
carylsuactiafner, what do you mean?11:07
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ChurcH_of_FoamYok that was new gonna have to make a warning sighn for my wall11:08
thoreauputiclsuactiafner: bad advice - there's a Debian way for kernels11:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYbeware of flying cd's O_o11:08
r0dlsuactiafner,  I custimized my kernel from source11:08
hondjemake-kpkg is too hard for hondje :(  I just use distro defaults11:08
lsuactiafnerbob2 : ppl in ubuntu will advise you to use apt-get for kernels.. they dont know how to compile kenrels.. most of em11:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYit just shot my last copy of ubuntu acrost the room11:08
ChurcH_of_FoamY:(11:08
bob2lsuactiafner: sure, because the ubuntu kernel works for nearly everyone out of the box11:09
r0dlsuactiafner,  you can apt-get your sources11:09
hondjelsuactiafner: for the most part, they don't need to11:09
lsuactiafnerso ppl in this channel dont know how to help cary .. ask in a server distro channel11:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYstupid front loading cd rom11:09
concept10whos trying to compile a kernel11:09
bob2lsuactiafner: please stop with the lame trolling11:09
vHintswenomg...11:09
vHintswen/me wants windows back11:09
bob2ubuntu is a "server distro"11:09
caryconcept10, i am. its compiling now. im looking up what to do next11:09
concept10what have you done?11:09
TokenBadI give up...try to ftp in and it says some error about pure-ftp11:09
TokenBadlike its still loading11:09
lsuactiafnerbob2 : didnt work for me.. the ppl for whom it works come here and tell you it worked, but for the 10% of ppl who install, cant boot, doesnt complain and go back to windows.. you dont even know about em11:09
rob^vHintswen, well why are you hanging around here then?11:09
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vHintswenlol well maybe i could fix it11:10
lsuactiafnerbob2 : ubuntu aint a server and you know that11:10
bob2lsuactiafner: er, so, they need to file bugs11:10
lsuactiafnerfreebsd is a server.11:10
bob2lsuactiafner: oh, stop it, don't be a moron11:10
caryconcept10, i apt-get'ed 2.6.11 (.8 i think) then applied some powerbook patches, now its compiling11:10
lsuactiafnerbob2 : but they dont.. you know that11:10
bob2lots of people run servers on ubuntu, including me11:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol11:10
Eighthok... so apache is working now, but i still have the problem of 'unresolved dependencies' from when i tried to install libkrb53... how do i tell apt-get to forget that ever happened?11:10
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Markumani've problems to install paint shop pro with wine...11:10
thoreauputiclsuactiafner: that would be why ubuntu.com runs on ubuntu...11:10
r0dlsuactiafner,  I came from gentoo, and I like doing it.  its not hard lsuactiafner .....11:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol11:10
r0douch11:10
hondjebob2: what are you serving w/ ubuntu? Production env?11:11
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xedAGGGHG!!!11:11
xedqt_parted is uselss!!!!11:11
lsuactiafnerah cmon11:11
caryhahah11:11
xeduseless you hear me! USELESS!!!!11:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYno it's not it's actually a very good prog11:11
lsuactiafnerbob2 : ubuntu is a desktop, ive been told that many times.11:11
bob2hondje: yes11:11
vHintswenany idea why commands are not working?11:11
bob2lsuactiafner: I really don't care11:11
vHintswenor shuld i just go downstairs11:11
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bob2lsuactiafner: your opinions are your own, but spreading fud is silly11:11
thoreauputic lsuactiafner: that would be why ubuntu.com runs on ubuntu..11:11
concept10lsuactiafner, linux is linux remember that11:11
xedYou can't resize the friggin partition WITH THE OS on it.. which basically has all of the space.11:11
r0dlsuactiafner,  u dont know what your talking about11:11
caryconcept10, how long does it generally take to compile a kernel?11:12
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caryconcept10, (im in the drivers)11:12
vHintswenanyone got any ideas??11:12
thoreauputiccary: depends on your machine11:13
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cdchow to play mp3s in ubuntu11:13
cdci am unable to play any mp3s in ubuntu11:13
concept10cary, I dont know .  it depends on how much you are compiling and your machine speed11:13
carythoreauputic, minutes or hours?11:13
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bob2cdc: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:13
bob2cdc: this is in the faq, btw11:13
cdcbob2, that means ppl using ubuntu cant play mp3s11:13
cdc:-o11:13
lsuactiafnercary : amd64 3200 minutes.. p166 18hrs if its a huge big kernel..11:13
bob2cdc: er, no, it doesn't11:13
caryhey wow. i am even able to play mp3s!11:14
carynot tha tmy audio works for crap11:14
caryokay, so i should go to bed then, and not wait for this to finish compiling?11:14
r0dlol11:14
concept10cary, why are you compiling a kernel (just curious)11:14
lsuactiafnercary : what machine you got?11:14
r0dno man not that long cary11:14
cdccary, u r able to play mp3s ?11:14
cdccary, how is it whats to be done?11:14
vHintswenhas everyone got me on ignore or something?!?11:15
bob2cdc: read that wiki page, it expains how to set it up11:15
r0dcary needs to patch his kernel11:15
bob2vHintswen: if you want help, you need to ask clear, informed questions11:15
concept10vHintswen, whats your question11:15
vHintswenDoes anyone here know who my mouse isn't working or why no commands work?11:15
vHintswenwhy*11:15
caryconcept10, i am compiling a kernel so i can apply patches to it that will make my powerbook work better11:15
bob2define "no commands work"11:15
lsuactiafnercant wait for openmosix patch for the 2.6 series11:15
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vHintswenwhen i type in a command nothing happens11:16
concept10cary, sounds great  I did a one the other day11:16
caryconcept10, there are cpu and audio patches, as well as one fo rthe temp guage.  my audio is crap right now.11:16
bob2vHintswen: where? for example?11:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYmaybey it takes a min?11:16
caryr0d, cool.11:16
pfpgagz11:16
carycdc, follow the link bob2 sent you. its fairly straight forward given the basics of linux (which i really dont knwo)11:17
vHintsweni don't know what it's called, when you press ctrl+alt+backspace, there's where commands don't work11:17
caryyou'll need to go to11:17
vHintswenand mouse doesn't work anywhere11:17
r0dcary,  what command did you use 'make && make module_install'?11:17
thoreauputicbob2: Sunday has arrived a day early, methinks ;)11:17
bob2vHintswen: "don't work"?  you can't see anything printed when you type?11:17
bob2thoreauputic: hah11:17
carycdc, youll need to go to system>admin>synaptic and enable all your universe and multiverse stuffs. just read that site11:17
Eighthok... so apache is working now, but i still have the problem of 'unresolved dependencies' from when i tried to install libkrb53... how do i tell apt-get to forget that ever happened?11:17
vHintswenafter i type in a command it just goes to the next line, it doesn'tgive me any message in return to say it has done anything11:18
microhaxoBob2, can you help me, directx9wine wont compile, i get errors  C compiler cannot create executables11:18
thoreauputicvHintswen: silence is golden :)11:18
carylord i dont even know now. i pasted what pfp sent me and thats off the channel now and lord knows its gone from terminal11:18
vHintswennot always11:18
r0dhehe11:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow do compaqs run ubuntu? pritty well?11:18
r0dim sur he told you that.11:18
pfpcary: heh, still here, though i'm really out in 10min.  ...11:18
bob2vHintswen: so, what command?11:18
thoreauputicvHintswen: example of such a command?11:18
bob2vHintswen: most commands don't print anything at all11:18
carypfp..what the heck did i do?11:18
bob2vHintswen: (unless something went wrong)11:19
vHintswen'ls /dev | grep psaux'11:19
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bob2microhaxo: install the build-essential package11:19
r0dpfp,  did you tell cary to use 'make && make module_install'?11:19
pfpcary: after it's compiled, you need to 1) install the kernel package 2) make sure your boot loader is ok. i actually forgot that you're on a Mac; that makes any advice on LILO or GRUB useless to you11:19
carypfp, and lsuactiafner was saying i have more junks to do after this11:19
bob2vHintswen: well, of course, that means there's no file called psaux in /dev11:19
microhaxobob211:19
pfpr0d: no11:19
vHintswen'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'11:19
microhaxoi did11:19
microhaxobuild-essential is already the newest version.11:19
microhaxostill doesnt work?11:19
bob2microhaxo: talk to the wine people11:19
microhaxoi am11:19
microhaxolol11:19
bob2microhaxo: try 'rm config.cache'11:19
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zerokillshow do i install a .rpm file?11:20
thoreauputicvHintswen: do you have xserver-xorg installed/11:20
r0dpfp,  what command, just 'make' he asked if it would take along time to compile11:20
lsuactiafnermicrohaxo : default ubuntu installs dont like to compile.. so you will need to install more libs and dependancies11:20
bob2zerokills: what is it?11:20
vHintswenwhat's a command that will print something so i can check if it's working?11:20
bob2lsuactiafner: which he/she ha installed now11:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow is ubuntu with isa cards?11:20
bob2vHintswen: ls /etc11:20
zerokillsbob2: its a program11:20
thoreauputicvHintswen: try ls -al11:20
bob2zerokills: indeed.  which program?11:20
pfpr0d: he's using make-kpgk kernel_image, and running as a normal user, so he can't have messed up anything yet11:20
r0dok11:20
zerokillsbob2" limewire11:20
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bob2zerokills: it's probably easier to just get the tarball of their site11:21
concept10lsuactiafner, you should stop smoking11:21
carypfp, good to know its apparently not possible for me to have janekd this up yet11:21
pfpr0d: also, because it's a macintosh, grub or lilo won't be present11:21
carygood lord there are so many drives11:21
carydrivers*11:21
newuserHey, excuse me11:21
r0dpfp,  apples dont use grub? interesting!11:21
newuserDoes anyone watch anime?11:21
peppois there an easy way to show _BUILD_ dependencies for a piece of software? I'm going to build Ardour at an internetless machine, and beside scons it seems to need libstdc++5-dev, but what more?11:21
newuserSorry for off the topic11:21
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hondjenewuser: my wife does11:22
zerokillsbob2: where do i get the tarball?11:22
hondjewierdo asians11:22
bob2peppo: apt-cache showsrc ardour11:22
newuserWell, you've seen Lain correct?11:22
bob2hondje: er?11:22
vHintswenboth 'ls /etc' and 'ls -al' print nothing11:22
newuserLain Serial Experiments11:22
hondjebob2: my wife, she's a wierdo asian11:22
pfpcary: yep, you need sudo / root to break anything ,)11:22
xedSo.. I'm going to go ahead.. and just wait for this download of the new ubuntu to finish, and try that out.11:22
lsuactiafnerargh i'm going to get kicked again if i defend myself so stop bashing me. ive always been told HERE ubuntu is a desktop, everytime i complained build-essentials should be a default package, any server should have development tools and a complte network package series..11:22
hondjenewuser: Yes, she has that one11:22
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bob2newuser: this doesn't seem to have anything to do with ubuntu11:22
xedI've already partitioned out the resierf.. or whatever thats called, and made the linux swap ready for the CD11:22
pfpr0d: afaik grub is pc-only11:22
thoreauputicvHintswen: OK in that case your install is b0rked11:22
bob2lsuactiafner: no, please stop it11:22
lsuactiafnerbut ubuntu is a very very good desktop11:22
lsuactiafnerits outstanding on the desktop11:23
bob2lsuactiafner: if clueless people have told you things, it doesn't make it true11:23
newuserWell in Lain, correct the girl seems to have her monitor as the way she sees things.11:23
xedI'm going to sleep and hoping I don't remember this all too well in the morning.11:23
xedGood day to you sirs.11:23
vHintswenso what can i do?11:23
newuserLike her Dekstop for I say..11:23
newuserIs that possible with Ubuntu11:23
newuserSince it is, an..11:23
carypfp...woohoo. im wondering if i even have a "little" enoguh knowledge to be dangerous yet.11:23
newuserOpen source correct?11:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there spider solitare for ubuntu?11:23
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hondjenewuser: I don't follow, man :)11:23
newuserNo lady actually,11:23
hondje'like her desktop for I say' lost me11:23
newuserGirl...11:23
newuserAnyway I want to configure my system11:23
newuserIn the way I see everything fit, like in11:23
newuserDekstop for insay,11:23
newuserIs that possible?11:24
zerokillsbob2: i dont know what a tarball is, ive heard the term but never used it11:24
newuserI know it looks cool, and everything11:24
vHintswenthoreauputic what can i do to fix it?11:24
bob2newuser: what's your native language11:24
bob2?11:24
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r0dbob2,  when you make a ubuntu server, does it trim the kernel down at all?11:24
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bob2zerokills: just like a .zip file11:24
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newuserI'm sorry I am only in the 6th grade11:24
barbashi everybody.11:24
bob2r0d: how would you trim it down?11:24
newuserI am only trying to figure this out11:24
bob2ChurcH_of_FoamY: there's lots of solitaire programs11:24
carypfp, is installing the kernel especially hard, and how do i check my boot loader?11:24
zerokillsbob2: ok, found the .zip file, how do i install it?11:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYswwet11:24
newuserBut, I'f I want to configure my entire system11:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYsweet even11:24
vHintsweno.o11:24
newuserCan I configure it, like how I see it11:24
hondjenewuser: feel free to msg me, maybe I can figure out what you need11:25
newuserIn my mind..11:25
r0dbob2,  like alsa....etc11:25
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vHintswenthoreauputic u there?11:25
concept10lsuactiafner, sorry.  I wasnt bashing you.  You just make wild statements like "Ubuntu doesnt like to compile stuff with default installation"  it could be "The default Ubuntu installation doesn't include some development tools, you must install them"  (Which is not hard to do)11:25
bob2newuser: you seem to be very confused11:25
hondjenewuser: oh, you mean like the layout, the theme?11:25
thoreauputicvHintswen: if ls /etc returns nothing , I'd say it's time to reinstall : it suggests nothing will work at all11:25
carygeneral question: how woudl i make sure my default boot choice (for when it times out) is os x, not ubuntu?11:25
newuser....11:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe lady i'm building this system for wants only to play solitare and tetris11:25
bob2newuser: try to formulate what you mean, then start talking11:25
newuserI'm sorry..11:25
newuserI am confused..11:25
bob2r0d: no11:25
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vHintswenre-install from same cd would fix?11:25
barbasCould someone go to the site http://www.in.gr with firefox, print the page in a file with firefox and tell if the printout is the same with the content displayed on the screen?11:25
bob2r0d: how would that help?  getting rid of them would only save a little bit of disk space (they don't use ram unless they're loaded)11:25
r0di guess. I just always think that way. if it isnt needed, dont have it11:26
bob2cary: edit the yaboot config11:26
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pfpcary: actually, heh, i don't remember, it's been a few years since i had linux on a mac (pc differs in this vs. mac vs. other architectures)11:26
concept10bob2, do you find this hard to manage sometimes?11:26
bob2r0d: if you really care, it's simple to build a custom kernel11:26
bob2concept10: which?11:26
r0di know11:26
newuserIn a specific way of detail..11:26
r0djust asking for furture builds bob211:26
carybob2, easier said than done. i guess there is a website that explains where the yaboot config is?11:26
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bob2sure11:26
concept10bob2, channel11:26
bob2cary: doubt it11:26
newuserI want to configure my entire desktop in the image11:26
vHintsweno.o11:26
bob2cary: /etc/yaboot.conf11:26
newuserI see fit.11:26
vHintsweni'm just gonna re-install from the same cd then11:27
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newuserCan I do this with Python..?11:27
barbascould someone help me please?11:27
bob2concept10: heh, irc has massively increased my typing speed11:27
newuserI am reading, it seems interesting and facinating.11:27
pfpcary: hopefully i'll have a chance to check that later, now i _really_ have to attend real-life stuff... ->11:27
newuserThat's my only question.11:27
caryhah11:27
bob2newuser: you need to actually define what you want to do before anyone can help you11:27
carythanks again pfp11:27
hondjenewuser: you talking about wallpapers?11:27
thoreauputicvHintswen: assuming the CD is OK - have you checked its md5sum?11:27
bob2zerokills: http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther11:27
bob2zerokills: get that11:27
newuserThe entire screen out the kernel11:27
carybob2, i just gedit'ed yaboot.conf and it says its read online11:28
caryonly*11:28
hondjenewuser: I can't remember that cartoon well enough to know wtf you're talking about :)11:28
newuserWith a different script.11:28
hondjenewuser: the kernel is the part that does the interacting with the hardware, like drivers and stuff.11:28
newuserNo that is only one example.11:28
bob2cary: sudo gedit /etc/yaboot.conf11:28
thoreauputiccary: you need "sudo gedit" or "gksudo gedit"11:28
bob2cary: from a terminal11:28
newuserI know.11:28
zerokillsbob2: do i just extract the files to any location?11:29
hondjenewuser: okay, so what do you mean 'the entire screen out of the kernel'?11:29
FallenHitokiridoes somebody know how i can sync evolution with egroupware?11:29
carybob2, what is gksudo?11:29
bob2zerokills: into your homedir would be a good place11:29
thoreauputiccary: just graphical password dialog11:29
peppois there a way to list build dependencies in Ubuntu/Debian?11:29
caryah11:29
bob2cary: a gtk version of sudo, I guess11:29
newuserOk, like the screen saver11:29
zerokillsk11:29
bob2peppo: yes, I told you how: apt-cache showsrc ardour11:30
newuserCan I use that in my desktop. with a good video card11:30
newuserlike a radeon11:30
hondjenewuser: yes11:30
peppobob2, oops, my eyes must've failed me. sorry! didn't see the highlight. thanks!11:30
newuser:) Thanks.11:30
hondjenewuser: oh, you mean as your background!11:30
newuserI'll look into that.11:30
hondjenewuser: with stuff over it11:30
carybob2, yeah..gtk means nothing to me. one day it will! but now..its like me talking to my mom and fstops and aperatures and, well, anything computer11:30
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newuserI love psy music11:30
newuserI want to play crazy wicked11:30
newuserColor images11:30
newuserPsy stuff.11:30
bob2peppo: that's only for packaged software, tho, of course11:30
cdci am unable to use totem to play movies i dont get sound at all11:30
usssswhat is the best FTP client in Ubuntu? look-alike WS-FTP in windows ...11:31
cdcbut i am able to play mp3s11:31
newuserThank you.11:31
newuserBye.11:31
cdccould some one help me ?11:31
thoreauputiccdc:11:31
Eighthbob2: need guru-level help w/ a confused apt-get11:31
bob2cary: ah, gtk = gimp toolkit = the stuff that draws buttons and scrollbars and etc11:31
zeverussss, you can use gftp11:31
ussssokie11:31
thoreauputic!restricted11:31
bob2Eighth: just ask your question to the channl11:31
uboturestricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:31
carycdc: for reference i really want to, but i know almost nothign11:31
cdcthoreauputic, ya tell me11:31
bob2ussss: nautilus is a pretty decent one11:31
thoreauputiccdc: see URL above11:31
carybob2, ahha! now gtk means something. that was fast11:31
bob2hehe11:31
cdcthoreauputic, i ve done whats been specified in that site11:32
usssswhats the best .wma player in Ubuntu ?11:32
HrdwrBoBdoctor_who_2005.1x04.aliens_of_london.ws_pdtv_xvid-fov.avi11:32
Eighthwhen i run apt-get, i get a message regarding unresolved dependencies for libkrb53.11:32
FallenHitokirijoin #gnome11:32
HrdwrBoBer wrong windows11:32
ussssi cant play my .wma files in Ubuntu11:32
FallenHitokirisorry11:32
bob2Eighth: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list 4to #flood11:32
Eighthi will pastebin, one moment11:32
hondjeFallenHitokiri: I just checked their docs, doesn't say bud :)11:32
newuserobtain the package11:32
HrdwrBoB*window11:32
bob2HrdwrBoB: hah11:32
thoreauputiccdc: I suggest you install totem-xine, and w32codecs11:32
bob2HrdwrBoB: bad wolf will be revealed in 12 hours ;p11:32
newuserwhat do you mean?11:33
FallenHitokirihondje: yeah... but someone mentioned that it should be possible...11:33
HrdwrBoBbob2: I have it here :)11:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh and if anyones interested i have gotten ubuntu to run on a mac 5400/18011:33
bob2HrdwrBoB: the episode airing tonight in the uk?11:33
HrdwrBoBbob2: episode 12 bad wolf11:33
HrdwrBoB?11:33
hondjeFallenHitokiri: quick googling says yes, but I never tried it11:33
Eighthbob2: done11:34
bob2HrdwrBoB: ah, yeah, that still didn't reveal who/what it is...the season finale is on tonight11:34
HrdwrBoBahhh ok11:34
bob2oh, not to spoil it, sorry :)11:34
FallenHitokirihondje: the problem is that i don't get a connection... i think i've got the wrong url but i don't know which one i should try11:34
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bob2Eighth: and the full error from apt?11:34
Eighthbob2: pasted11:34
HrdwrBoB(I haven't watched it yet, I just have all of them so far .. only watched 1-3 :)11:34
Kamping_Kaiserhi church_of_foamy11:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYHI ^_^11:34
hondjeFallenHitokiri: we don't use that at work, and I'm dumb w/ groupware stuff...11:34
Kamping_Kaiser;)11:34
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hondjebest I've managed is to set up hula for home use11:35
bob2Eighth: that looks very much like you got a package from debian11:35
FallenHitokirihondje: hehe ;) if i cannot solve this problem i just switch over to kubuntu... kontakt is able to sync ;)11:35
rob^anyone used avidemux before?11:36
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ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^11:36
Eighthbob2: i did in a fit of confusion11:36
bob2Eighth: you're kinda screwed11:36
hondjeFallenHitokiri: if you didn't know, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop does that magically for you :)11:36
Eighthbloody hell11:36
Eighththere's nothing i can do?11:37
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bob2Eighth: try removing libkrb5311:37
bob2Eighth: and then reinstalling it with apt (who will get it from the ubuntu mirror)11:37
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usssswhats the best .wma player in Ubuntu ?11:37
FallenHitokirihondje: my workstation is running kde... but... all the years... i hate it... i really hate kde... it's hard for me to swtich over and use all the other apps starting with k instead of a g11:37
FallenHitokiriussss: vlc11:37
ussssokies thanks :)11:38
hondjeFallenHitokiri: hehe, I used to like KDE, when KDE2 came out I was so happy, but 3 has gotten messier and messier, now I can't use it11:38
Eighthtried that... when removing, it gives errors such as "evolution: Depends: libkrb53 (>= 1.3.2) but it is not going to be installed"11:38
Eighthwhen installing, it wants to remove libc6 and the 108 packages that depend on it11:38
hondjebob2: why isn't there a spot in the places menu for the cd burner11:38
bob2hondje: I don't know.  does it appear in any of the nautilus menus?11:39
bob2Eighth: how did you get into this mess?11:39
ubuntuive got a folder full of debs from a friend is there an easy way to install the whole folder?11:39
bob2yes, but it's a bad idea11:39
hondjebob2: sure, in places in any nautilus window11:39
Eighthbob2: apache wasn't starting and was giving an error message about a broken libkrb5311:39
hondjeer, places menu11:39
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bob2hondje: but not in the top places menu?11:40
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Eighthbob: so i tried to install libkrb53, but apt said it wanted a newer version of libc611:40
bob2Eighth: so you went and installed 108 packages from Debian?11:40
hondjebob2: yes, not in the top one off the panel11:40
bob2hondje: ah11:40
bob2hondje: that sounds like a bug to me11:40
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Eighthbob2: no, i attempted to upgrade libc6, which has 108 dependants.11:40
hondjeoh, I'll go file that then11:40
bob2Eighth: to what?11:40
hondjeI haven't filed a bug in days11:40
ubuntuso is it possible?11:41
carybob2, hey its done!11:41
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lozdoes anyone know why the python bindings for gtksourceview are not included in the ubuntu repositories (any) when mono, ruby etc are.11:41
bob2ubuntu: sudo dpkg -i *.deb11:41
bob2but it's a bad idea11:41
bob2loz: are they in Debian?11:41
lozbob2: not sure.11:42
Eighthbob2: 2.3.2.ds1-21ubuntu13 instead of 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu1311:42
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Eighthbob2: but it didn't want to upgrade libc6, so i stupidly grabbed the .deb from debian11:42
Eighthand now i'm kicking myself11:42
bob2yes11:42
thoreauputicubuntu: you will probably get dependency problems , unless your cllection of debs is complete11:42
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bob2loz: that would presumably be the reason why11:43
lozbob2: no it's not in debian stable.11:43
bob2Eighth: you only installed libc6, with dpkg?11:43
lozseems strange that it's not included tho.11:43
bob2Eighth: where did you get the libkrb53 that wanted a higher version?11:43
ubuntutryd that command and got this dpkg: status database area is locked by another process11:43
Eighthapt-get11:43
carybob2, now that i have compiled i cant seem to find the .deb file. is that indeed what i am looking for for trying to install the kernel?11:43
bob2cary: ../11:43
thoreauputicUbuntico: close sysnaptic11:44
thoreauputic*synaptic11:44
ubuntuah yes11:44
carybob2 one level up i see no .deb file11:44
bob2cary: then it didn't finish successfully11:45
hondjebob2: think that's a gnome-panel bug, or a nautilus bug?11:45
thoreauputicubuntu: I hope these .debs are ubuntu debs ...11:45
bob2or it wasn't run correctly11:45
bob2hondje: I'm not sure11:45
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hondjeI'll file it as panel, since it's missing from the menu11:45
ubuntuthoreauputic: lol11:45
hondjelet the devs move it around11:45
bob2hondje: I'd think paanel11:45
bob2yeah11:45
ubuntuthoreauputic: well its going11:45
caryhere is the error it gave11:45
caryneed root privileges11:45
carymake: *** [kernel-image-deb]  Error 111:45
carycary@lnx:~/kernel/linux-source-2.6.11$ pfp11:45
carybash: pfp: command not found11:45
thoreauputicubuntu: if not, you will have problems..11:45
bob2cary: run it as make-kpkg ... -rfakeroot11:46
bob2cary: where ... = whatever options you want to give it11:46
carybob2, i know nothing about options11:46
carybob2, this is for another day i think. its almost 5 am. sleep time.11:46
bob2cary: er, ok11:46
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carybob2, THANK YOU11:46
ubuntuthoreauptic: well it seemd to work11:46
thoreauputicubuntu: lucky you :)11:46
caryi think im having a small heart attack. goodnight11:47
bob2cary: it'll have to build from scratch again, unfortunately11:47
carybob2, yeah, i figured. alas. oh well. part of learning11:47
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Chetichow do I compile a source after installing the .deb file containing the source?11:48
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bob2Chetic: it'll have instructions in /usr/share/doc/packagename/README.Debian11:49
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Eighthbob2: any other ideas?11:49
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usssszever, thanks a lot for telling me about gFTP. thats what I am looking for... :)11:49
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zeverusss, no prob11:50
hondjeWhy is gftp in universe?11:50
ussss:)11:50
bob2Eighth: I still don't understand what you did11:50
bob2Eighth: is libc6 and libkrb53 the only packages you got from outside ubuntu?11:50
bob2hondje: unsupported11:50
robyhi guys can you help me?11:51
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robyi have a big problem in ubuntu11:51
Eighthbob2: yes11:51
robythe sound doesn't work11:51
hondjebob2: ah11:51
bob2Eighth: then reinstall them from ubuntu11:51
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robythe inboard sound is C-Media cmi976111:52
bob2Eighth: apt-cache policy libc6, then apt-get install libc6=1.2.3 (the version number you got from the policy output11:52
robyit is perfectly detected but no sound11:52
robyand the strange thing11:52
hondjethoreauputic: your nick makes me cynical :)11:52
robyis that in a minidistro live-cd like damnsmalllinux it works perfectly!11:53
thoreauputichondje: heh - well I stick with it because it's how I'm known now11:53
robyany ideas?11:53
Eighthbob2: results are pasted @ http://rafb.net/paste/results/OjMhk527.html11:53
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rob^anyone know where I can get a ubuntu .deb package for avidemux?11:53
hondjethoreauputic: heh, I'm stuck with hondje too11:53
thoreauputichondje: think Civil Disobedience rather than Walden pond... ;)11:54
zeverrob^ sudo apt-get install avidemux11:54
hondjethoreauputic: Yeah, I got it, oddly enough :)11:54
bob2Eighth: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends libkrb5311:54
bob2Eighth: then try again11:54
rob^zenrox, what repository?11:54
hondjerob^: It's not in any11:55
rob^zever I mean11:55
rob^hondje, so it seems..11:55
Eighthbob2: i could hug you, but i won't ;)  thank you11:55
Eighththat did the trick11:55
hondjerob^: Let me do a quick check, maybe it's easy to build one11:55
bob2Eighth: np11:55
zerokillshow do i copy a file from one location to another in terminal?11:55
Eighthyou're an asset to this community11:55
bob2zerokills: cp source dest11:56
rob^hondje, just did, requires libxml2 package which is installed but the make file cant find it11:56
zerokillsbob2 thx11:56
rob^hondje, I used subversion11:56
hondjerob^: is there a libxml-dev11:56
hondjerob^: oh, I've seen that11:56
rob^hondje, I'll see how that goes..11:56
hondjerob^: how's it better than kino or dvd::rip11:56
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rob^hondje, dunno, I just want to convert avis to mpgs11:57
rob^I'll check out kino11:58
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rZrhi11:59
zeverrob^ its in the repositories of ftp.nerim.net11:59
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rob^zenrox, thanx12:00
ussssVLC player plays my audio files, but I heard nothing...12:00
ussss:(12:00
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usssseven my volume control is almost up and also my speaker12:01
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hondjeussss: dbl click the volume thingie, are those all up too?12:01
usssswhere ?12:01
wdhhi ppls.. does anyone know of a good tool that counts the amount of data-transfer over my internetconnection  during a month?12:01
ussssin VLC ?12:01
hondjeussss: on gnome-panel12:01
zerokillsbob2: how do i create a folder in terminal?12:02
hondjerob^: kino is for dvcams and stuff, not what you want12:02
zerokillserr dir12:02
thoreauputicwdh: gkrellm can do that for you12:02
usssshondje, what menu ?12:02
rob^zever, what nerim.net repository?12:02
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thoreauputiczerokills: mkdir12:03
hondjeussss: the little volume control thing on the panel, should be next to the clock12:03
zerokillsthoreauputic, thx12:03
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thoreauputiczerokills: I suggest you read http://tuxfiles.org12:03
usssshondje, almost in Maximum level12:03
hondjeussss: pcm too?12:03
usssspcm ? where ?12:03
thoreauputiczerokills: good stuff there about the command line for beginners12:03
wdhthoreauputic, but gkrellm is some graphical thingy.. i just want a daemon which i just adds all trafficcounts up for each month.. and then allows me to readout the total..12:04
hondjeussss: dbl click that volume thing12:04
ussssbut when I play my audio CDs, i can play it withour problems12:04
zerokillsthoreauputic, sweet thanks, ill check it out12:04
usssshondje, PCM is also almost in Maximum level12:05
sparklinghi all12:05
hondjeussss: then you got me :) Turn off vlc, in a terminal run 'killall esd' and try again, maybe12:05
sparklingdoes anyone use tools to monitoring cpu temperature, hard drives temperature and fan speed?12:05
ussssokie12:05
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zeverrob^ deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main12:05
zeverrob^ deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main12:06
zeverdeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main12:06
zeverone of these12:06
hondjeoh no, marillat :(12:06
rob^zever, the stable/unstable are not listed on the page12:06
lozi founf gtksourceview-py.  it's not a separate package, but part of gnome-python-extras.  Is it possible for someone to add that as a virtual package with gnome-python-extras as a dependancy?12:06
hondjeit should be required to learn pinning :)12:06
rob^hondje, not hard12:06
usssshondje, :) thanks a lot!!!12:07
ussss:)12:07
ussssit plays now....12:07
usssshehehehe12:07
hondjeussss: glad to help :)12:07
usssswhat ESD mean ?12:07
usssswhy I will kill him first ?12:07
hondjeussss: esd is the sound daemon for ubuntu (over simple, but hey)12:07
usssssorry for that, Im just a Linux newbie12:08
thoreauputicsparkling: apt-cache search lmsensors12:08
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djs!esd12:08
ubotuhmm... esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.12:08
hondjelm-sensors is the package12:08
Fabiangood morning12:08
ussssthanks once again :)12:08
lozusss you need not kill it.  if you install esound-clients you can turn it off temporarily using esdctl off, then on with esdctl on12:08
thoreauputichondje: oops - missed the "-"12:09
Fabianpfp, are you here?12:09
thoreauputicsparkling: as hondje says, lm-sensors12:10
ussssloz, :D12:10
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ussssloz, id killed it already as what hondje told me... now my VLC runs smoothly12:10
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usssswow! even .wmv and .wma can play it using VLC12:13
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lsuactiafnerussss : if you got a 64bit system you need a static mplayer binary to play wmv12:14
ussssi tried one of the sex scandals in .wmv format and it works... :)12:14
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sparklingall done thanx guys12:16
ussssbye12:16
ussss:)12:16
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gorthaughi i've a problem with amsn... the icons of the try ico are white12:17
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thoreauputicgorthaug: the icon may be missing from your theme - does it show with a different theme?12:18
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tjsgday12:18
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tjsdoes ubuntu have a special config or place to add route rules or config routing?12:19
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r0dwhat program can i use for backing up dvd movies?12:19
bob2tjs: /etc/network/interfaces12:19
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tjsoh12:19
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gorthaugthoreauputic: i doesn't show with other them...12:20
DackelHow can I a package-choice with ubuntu-install?12:20
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Dackel+use12:20
jason_any body know why files listed in .hidden still show in the gnome file picker?12:20
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DackelI don't habe a big hard-disk,12:21
thoreauputicgorthaug: OK - just a guess: sometimes tha is the problem - can you right click it and change properties? (I don't use amsn...)12:21
Dackel2 GB12:21
gorthaugyes the icon works but it's white12:21
thoreauputicjason_: right click in the file list and choose to hide then/reveal them12:21
thoreauputicgorthaug: *shrug* don't know - file a bug perhaps ?12:22
radixbob2: is the idea to just add scripts that call 'route' commands, or is there a syntax specifically for doing advanced-ish routing stuff?12:22
bob2radix: add ip-up hooks12:22
jason_thoreauputic: I have hidden on but the files i have in .hidden are still visible, files starting with a . are hidden12:23
radixbob2: right, ok.12:23
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Dackelthanks fo the 'nice' answer12:23
thoreauputicjason_: ah I see - I don't know then12:23
jason_:(12:24
hondjeoh, that reminds me!12:24
hondjeHow do you make hidden files in windows?12:24
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thoreauputicanother impatient customer leaves...12:25
gorthaugthoreauputic: it's the same package that i've been installed in others PC with ubuntu hoary12:25
jason_http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129170 says it was fixed :(12:25
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cdcis it possible to run shareazza in Linux?12:26
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iboare there ubuntu guys here? id just like to say that samba should be included in an ubuntu default install.12:26
hondjeibo: samba server?12:27
hondjeor just support to access shares?12:27
thoreauputicibo: it's on the disc, ready to be installed by those who need it12:28
thoreauputicibo: servers are not installed by default: openssh-server is the same12:28
ibowell.. for power users its a piece of cake. for users targetted by ubuntu, it isnt.12:29
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thoreauputicibo: users targetted by ubuntu usually wouldn't set up a samba server12:29
bob2ibo: that's very unlikely to happen, sorry12:30
amri just installe apache2, then libapache2-python, how do i enable it so python works with apache?12:30
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amri've looked on the ubuntu site, no help12:30
hondjeI even filed a bug, but no one looked at it12:30
usssswhat is the good source code/text editor in Ubuntu...12:30
ibowhy not? anyway forgive my ignorant question, but isnt samba that enables the network sharing?12:30
iboi mean folder sharing12:30
usssswill also identify the no. lines12:31
hondjeibo: that or NFS12:31
hondjefor the shared-folders thing12:31
cdcisnt it possible to download the kernel-source using apt-get in ubuntu?12:31
hondjeBut do you really want a bunch of newbies who don't know what SMB is using default samba installs on the internet?12:31
cdci want 2.6-X source ?12:31
thoreauputiccdc: apt-cache search linux-source12:31
hondjecdc: yes12:31
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amrcan anyone help?12:32
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mindspinamr httpd.conf ?12:32
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amrmindspin, what about it12:32
iboit doesnt have to be enabled. important thing is.. the only thing they have to do is flick a switch to use it.12:32
ibolike the winxp firewall.12:33
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amri've tried copying in the stuff from the modpython site, no work12:33
hondjeare there any non-Free downloads on sourceforge?12:33
mindspinI guess you have to enable python or mod pythoon in your httpd.conf12:33
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amrmindspin, its in mods-enabled12:33
cdcdoes ubuntu come with a web server by default or i have to install it?12:33
amrcdc, its easy to install12:33
iboa household woul usually have multiple PCs right? so with ubuntu, they have to "RTFM" to enable folder sharing?12:34
bob2ibo: to use, all you have to do is install the package in synaptic12:34
bob2hondje: yes12:34
hondjebob2: hrm, okay.  Might have to email these cats to find their license then :(12:34
mindspinamr did you have a look in the apache logs?12:34
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bob2hondje: e.g. cedega12:35
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hondjebob2: didn't know they used sourceforge...is that for their CVS stuff?12:35
amr[Sat Jun 18 11:32:12 2005]  [notice]  mod_python: Creating 20 session mutexes based on 20 max processes and 0 max threads.12:35
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amr[Sat Jun 18 11:32:12 2005]  [notice]  Apache/2.0.53 (Ubuntu) mod_python/3.1.3 Python/2.4.1 PHP/4.3.10-10ubuntu4 configured -- resuming normal operations12:35
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mindspintry #apache12:36
amrthanks :)12:36
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McScruffhello12:37
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bob2hondje: yes12:37
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ibo*sigh*. ok now that ive installed samba.. how do i let others access my shared folder? its asking for user/password. im afraid the normal user have to fire up a terminal and edit some obscure config file.12:38
McScruffdoes anyone know how to install klibido12:38
syndcan someone test out my nicecast? http://139.55.46.63:8000/playlist.pls12:38
McScruffthe deb wont install12:38
syndit should run in rhythmbox12:39
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Brammei installed the dutch language pack for Thunderbird, it is in the extension window, but the language stays english, how do i change that ?12:39
hondjeBramme: easiest thing to do is log out, pick dutch as your language in GDM, and log back in...but that assumes you want it ALL in dutch12:40
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Brammei want only mozilla in dutch12:41
bob2ibo: share it anonymously then12:41
char1iecha1khello can i have some help please installing linux-686-smp please12:41
bob2char1iecha1k: you need to explain your problem first12:41
hondjeBramme: hrm, okay12:41
mindspinI had firefox and thunderbird enabled german language pack and it gave me strange efffects.. so I changed back to english12:41
char1iecha1kwhen i type sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp it says package not found12:41
hondjeBramme: Let me find out what I did...I set up firefox to run korean while everything else is english12:41
thoreauputicsynd: works here12:42
Cheticmplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:42
CheticIs there any way to make it not care about GL? It's not like it's really needed12:42
bob2char1iecha1k: well, it does exist; paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood12:42
thoreauputicsynd: but I used beep ;)12:42
syndthoreauputic: oo good deal : )12:42
bob2Chetic: is that a binary mplayer from a package?12:42
Cheticbob2, from an Ubuntu package, yeah12:43
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bob2Chetic: so...why don't you have libGL anymore?12:43
Cheticbob2, fglrx messed it up and I can't get it fixed12:43
CheticI still have the actual file though, in the right place12:43
hondjeBramme: does the languages thing in 'preferences' only affect the webpages themselves?12:43
bob2Chetic: you tried to install it from outside ubuntu?12:43
char1iecha1kbob2, i havent changed anything in there, do i neeed to before it works, if not i will paste it in flood12:44
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bob2char1iecha1k: paste it12:44
Cheticbob2, sorry I don't follow12:44
Brammehondje, it's about thunderbird12:44
char1iecha1kbob2, whats the full channel name12:44
ilucivtesting a file.sh file to see if it works possible??12:44
hondjeBramme: Oh, I saw mozilla and got stupid, I don't have that one12:44
bob2Chetic: anyway, don't install binary crap from outside ubuntu, and reinstall the xlibmesa-gl package now12:44
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Brammehondje, btw, are you korean ?12:44
bob2char1iecha1k: #flood12:45
hondjeBramme: Nope, and I'm not dutch either :)12:45
char1iecha1kbob2,  sorry im being thick12:45
hondjeBut the missus is korean, and her mom cannot read english12:45
Cheticbob2, I used Synaptic to install it.. the problem is not really in mplayer, I just want to bypass it12:45
Brammehondje, what are you then ?12:45
hondjeAmerican12:45
bob2Chetic: yes, I know.  the fix is to install the xlibmesa-gl package.12:45
Brammehondje, strange, because 'hondje' is a dutch word12:45
Cheticbob2, I have it already.. how do I reinstall it then?12:45
hondjeBramme: yep, puppy :)12:46
Bramme:)12:46
bob2Chetic: sudo apt-get --reinstall install xlibmesa-gl12:46
hondjeAs in 'hondje is een gekke snoodaard'12:46
bob2char1iecha1k: remove the # from the 3rd line and run 'sudo apt-get update', then you'll be able to install it12:46
hondjeI have a lot of dutch friends, my nick mutated over time12:46
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Brammeow12:46
Brammenice12:46
char1iecha1kbob2, cheers12:46
Bramme:)12:46
hondjeBramme: Seems like a nice place, never met a grumpy dutchie :)12:47
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hondjeIn fact, this coming Feb. I should be staying in Hilversum for a week12:47
Cheticbob2, well that gave me this: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa-gl_6.8.2-10_amd64.deb (--unpack): | trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2', which is also in package fglrx64-6-8-0 | dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)12:47
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Brammewell, i'm not dutch, i'm belgian12:47
Brammebut that's pretty close :p12:47
bob2Chetic: oh man12:47
ilucivok how many ways can you execute a "file.sh" file12:48
bob2Chetic: who told you to install fglrx64-6-8-0?12:48
bob2iluciv: 9312:48
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hondjeplus xs4all hosts my website, nice w/ us hosts being stupid12:48
Cheticbob2, I want hardware acceleration, ATi did12:48
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hondjeBramme: ah, my second week is going to be in Antwerpen :)12:48
ilucivwhat!!12:48
bob2Chetic: if you want hardware acceleration, read wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto12:48
bob2Chetic: you don't just go install broken packages from ati12:48
Brammehondje, Antwerpen rulez :d12:48
hondjeSo my friend says, and it's time I visit him instead of making them fly here :)12:49
Cheticbob2, I've followed several guides that say it should work fine12:49
bob2Chetic: sudo dpkg -P fglrx64-6-8-0 ; sudo apt-get --reinstall install xlibmesa-gl12:49
bob2Chetic: those guides are wrong12:49
Cheticbob2, the people happily using it too? :/12:49
bob2Chetic: yes12:49
ilucivbob2: anyway to test a "file.sh" to see if it works or where it doesn't12:49
bob2Chetic: those packages are incompatible with ubuntu12:49
Cheticbob2, the latest version of ATi's drivers are the only ones that work with my graphics card12:49
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hondjeBramme: I just installed all that, and I'm getting the impression tat they only put everything in dutch if your session is set to dutch, too12:49
bob2ouch12:49
CheticYep, shitty situation12:49
hondjeand I can't get firefox to show the menus in korean right now either, I must have borked the work-around when I nuked firefox 20 times12:50
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thoreauputiciluciv:  sh file.sh or ./file.sh if you made it executable (chmod +x)12:50
char1iecha1kbob2, i am going to paste what i got from doin g that into #flood12:50
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bob2char1iecha1k: show me your /etc/pt/sources.list now12:51
hondjetoo bad firefox guys aren't as nice as these ubuntu cats, like bob2 the guru12:51
Brammehondje, how do i set the main language to dutch then ? (don't have gdm)12:52
ilucivthoreauputic:well it's someone elses script to update the kernel and it did work now when I run it it only give a new command prompt underneith with no run12:52
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hondjeBramme: oh, that's a good question w/out gdm12:52
Brammelol12:52
hondjeBramme: what are you doing, just startx?12:52
Brammeeuh, trying to get gdm working, but that failed since i had to deinstall alsa12:52
HowitzerWooooooohooooooooo12:52
Bramme( to compile it myself, long story :p )12:52
hondjeBramme: apt-get install gdm complained?12:53
Brammeyes12:53
hondjeoh, long story then :)12:53
Howitzeri finally found Visual Boy Advance for Linux \ o /12:53
BrammeALSA is a depencie12:53
hondjeI screwed up gdm when I gave Entrace a spin :)12:53
thoreauputiciluciv: do you understand the script? running other people's scripts without reading them and knowing what they do is... erm...not a good idea?12:53
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Brammewell, i'm going to eat12:54
Brammecu guys12:54
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ilucivthoreauputic: well I looked through it and I think I know what it is supposed to do I don't really know because I'd be able to make it work if I did; does that make sense? There doesn't seem to be anything wrong in the writing of it.12:55
Howitzerbtw12:55
Howitzerwhere do i configure KDM in Kubuntu?12:55
ompaulthoreauputic, can you take a pm?12:56
HrdwrBoBHowitzer: #kubuntu12:56
Howitzer-_-12:56
thoreauputicompaul: sure12:56
HrdwrBoBit would be in the control center somewhere though12:56
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ralf_nas12:57
ralf_como borro paquetes de programas con dpkg o con apt-get remove ?12:57
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hondjeralf_: #ubuntu-es12:58
char1iecha1kbob2, looks like it is doing what is supposed to do now, shouldnt take too long on 2meg line12:58
hondjeralf_: este canal hablamos ingles12:58
ralf_hondje a perdon12:58
ralf_okis asias12:58
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hondje:)12:58
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bob2char1iecha1k: cool12:59
CMhow do i change fstab to mount a fat32 floppy ?12:59
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char1iecha1kbob2, no errosr, shold i reboot now?01:00
bob2char1iecha1k: yes01:00
MrEEE[CM]  ... /dev/fd0         /mnt/floppy      vfat        noauto,user,rw   0   001:00
mindspinHowitzer what do you want to do ?01:00
Howitzerwell01:00
Howitzerjust want to configure it a bit01:01
Howitzerauto-login after 30secs for example01:01
CMMrEEE, thanks01:01
mindspinthe appearace? or what ever?01:01
hondjeCM: remember to umount the floppy before ejecting it, I've screwed that up so many times, and it's a bummer to lose data :(01:01
Howitzeralso yes01:01
CM;) lol01:01
mindspinsudo kcontrol01:01
Howitzeris it configurable like GDM?01:01
mindspinand then have a look01:01
Howitzeroh01:01
Howitzerdamn01:01
Howitzershould've known that >_01:02
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mindspinno prob01:02
Howitzeraaah01:02
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HowitzerSys Administration 'login manager' :D01:02
CMW00T just got the new 5.04 cd's :P01:02
Howitzerwtf01:03
Howitzeri can't go into root mode >_<01:03
CMHowitzer, su then type password01:03
Howitzerah01:03
Howitzerno i was talking about kcontrol :d01:04
CMahhhhh :|01:04
CMlogin as root ?01:04
Howitzerubuntu doesn't support root :D01:04
thoreauputicCM: su doesn't work on Ubuntu - we use sudo01:05
Howitzerand i don't trust myself in rootmode :/01:05
hondjethis gconf-editor is neat01:05
CM:O SU works for me01:05
thoreauputicHowitzer: sudo -s to get a root shell01:05
HrdwrBoBCM: not by default it doesn't01:05
CMwell it does on my one, i am using warty at the moment01:05
Howitzereek01:05
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thoreauputicCM: you've changed something from default01:05
HrdwrBoBCM: then it's not default01:05
HrdwrBoBon a plain warty/hoary install you cannot use su or login as root01:06
CMsu has always worked :\01:06
orjanIf i got a "Intel Pentrum 4"-processor should I download XMMS-"Intel x86" ?01:06
CMand i have not changed any thing01:06
HrdwrBoBCM: how did you set the root password01:06
thoreauputicCM: did you use "expert" install ?01:06
HrdwrBoBorjan: correct01:06
orjanthx01:06
CMi can't remember now01:06
Howitzerlol01:06
HrdwrBoBCM: setting the root password with sudo allows you to use su01:06
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hondjehrm, what's a 'musicbrainz_server'?01:06
CMand i've fogot how to set the root password01:06
HrdwrBoBbut on a normal default install, you cannot use su01:07
CMpasswd ?01:07
Howitzerwtf01:07
CMlet me check01:07
Howitzerthey have a 'blowfish' at the login manager as an icon01:07
Howitzerperverts >_<01:07
char1iecha1kbob2, thanks, its all working! i now get 2 cpu in the sys mon01:08
CMyea i use passwd to set the root password01:08
CMwell sudo passwd01:08
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bob2cool01:08
bob2there's no need to enable the root account, of course01:09
MrEEE"no need" .. so true.. for readonly users...01:10
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McScruffdpkg-deb: control directory has bad permissions 2755 (must be >=0755 and <=0775)  - how do  ifix this01:10
hondjeMrEEE: I've only found one time I NEEDED root01:10
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bob2MrEEE: "readonly users"?01:10
hondjewhich was odd, I figured pretending your uid was 0 was enough01:10
bob2I've been using ubuntu for over a year now, and I've never needed a root account01:10
bob2MrEEE: when doing what?01:11
hondjebob2: ethereal01:11
CMi use root alot but only in the terminal thing alt+ctrl+F201:11
hondjeSome guy dropped the science on the why to me, has to do with kernel access01:11
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xirtami get W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B501:11
bob2hondje: ah, yeah01:11
xirtamon apt-get update ... any ideas?01:11
MrEEEcant access true hardware accel in "loser" (user) mode.. otherwise.. i agree.. root is forbidden :)01:11
bob2tho, I use ethereal as a normal user01:11
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asdfasdfDoes anybody know of any good open source python projects that a newcomer to python could analyse to understand how python works?01:12
bob2xirtam: gpg --recv-key 40976EAF437D05B5 ; gpg --export 40976EAF437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -01:12
hondjebob2: I need it for testing out something, and could only use it right as root01:12
Howitzerwth01:12
CMat the moment i am using root in gnome because i am copying and editing system files01:12
bob2MrEEE: add them to the video group01:12
Howitzeri'm compiling this GBA Emulator01:12
bob2CM: er, that's a bad idea to begin with01:12
CMmakes it more easy to do :P01:12
MrEEEasdfasdf... check out some cool scripts for blender3d.org 's awesome little .. well go see01:12
Howitzerand it keeps nagging about lzib or libpng mising01:13
CMi am making a backup of system files for horey01:13
Howitzerpfoe01:13
kvidelloh my...01:13
thoreauputicCM: great way to break your system in two clicks...01:13
kvidell10.4.1 is nice..01:13
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HowitzerWha01:13
CMlol01:13
HowitzerUbuntu 10.4.1? Oo01:13
kvidellTiger :-P01:14
asdfasdfMrEEE... ok, but any simple projects? I've used blender before and I still dont fully understand 3D progs...01:14
Howitzerwe're only at 5.10 :/01:14
kvidellOSx01:14
Howitzeroooh01:14
kvidellsorry. hehe01:14
Howitzerokay :D01:14
Howitzerhmm01:14
kvidellI only use Ubuntu on my PC laptops01:14
kvidellmy desktops are mac01:14
bob2Howitzer: install zlib0g-dev and libpng-dev01:14
CMoooooo blender :P01:14
CMi got blender :P01:14
Howitzerif ubuntu 5.10 comes out, i'm going to ask my dad if i can order some cd's01:14
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bob2"if"?01:14
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bob2when!01:14
kvidellaren't they free?01:14
xirtamwhat is wrong with fluxbox in ubuntu ... ?01:15
bob2kvidell: of course!01:15
hondjeThere should be an option to pay for ubuntu CDs01:15
bob2xirtam: it works for thousands of people01:15
hondjeI'd get them if I could buy them01:15
thoreauputicxirtam: it freezes, right?01:15
bob2hondje: why?01:15
cthulfuegohondje: You can pay me anytime.01:15
Howitzerehh01:15
xirtamthoreauputic: yes!01:15
cthulfuegohondje: ... and I'll send you an ubuntu CD.01:15
xirtamyou know why?01:15
thoreauputicxirtam: I have compiled my own fluxbox deb01:15
Howitzersomething weird is going on01:15
CMi got lot's of ubuntu cd's01:15
hondjebob2: Because I'd feel better about the resource usage then01:15
thoreauputicxirtam: I can tell you about it if you wish01:16
xirtamthoreauputic: what is the problem?01:16
hondjecthulfuego: hehe :)  Are you a registered F/OSS project ;-)01:16
bob2hondje: you can donate to ubuntu if you feel the urge01:16
HappyFoolhondje: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/donations/document_view01:16
thoreauputicxirtam: hang on a tick01:16
xirtamthoreauputic: let me download your deb-file ...01:16
Howitzerwhen i do apt-get install, it automaticly installs, not asking for Y/N01:16
hondjeoh neat, donate...I thought they were trying to go w/ paid support for the bills01:16
cthulfuegohondje: Registered? Do we have to _register_ now to be f/oss?01:16
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asdfasdfalso, i hvae a laptop with windows xp 2nd ed. I want to install Ubuntu as 2nd os. Do i just defrag, reboot into cd and install? Does ubunty resize partitions properly?01:16
hondjeHappyFool: was it you who showed me that magical graphing lib?01:16
HappyFoolHowitzer: i think it only asks if there are extra dependencies to install01:16
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HappyFoolhondje: matplotlib?01:16
Howitzerooh01:16
Fanskapethmm anyone tried to compile WINE on AMD64 ubuntu ?01:16
hondjecthulfuego: with the official F/OSS man01:16
bob2hondje: donations don't go to canonical01:16
Howitzerconfigure: error: *** Couldn't find SDL library (version >= 1.2.2).01:16
Howitzerwth01:17
hondjeHappyFool: ah yes, thank you sir!!01:17
bob2hondje: they only go towards bounties01:17
hondjeHappyFool: I lost that bookmark :(01:17
bob2Howitzer: so, install it01:17
Howitzeri thought i had everything needed >_<01:17
bob2Howitzer: libsdl1.2-dev01:17
hondjebob2: oh, that's a noble causes01:17
thoreauputicxirtam: you need to compile it with --disable-xmb   as a ./configure option01:17
Howitzerdamn01:17
HappyFoolhondje: http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/ ?01:17
CMwoohoo silent hill 3 is so fun :P01:17
HowitzerUbuntians are the most noblest people alive!01:17
hondjeHappyFool: Yep, just clicked that from google...I tried it out the other day, it was awesome01:18
HowitzerSilent Hill 3?(game or that lame movie with julia roberts?)01:18
thoreauputicxirtam: I can dcc mine if you like: but you will need a ~/.xsession file for it01:18
CMthe game :P01:18
Fanskapetthat wineinstall tool just outputs checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables01:18
cthulfuegohondje: I *AM* the official f/soss man!01:18
bob2Fanskapet: install build-essential01:18
hondjecthulfuego: RMS? Did you shave?! :o01:18
Howitzerf/soss?01:18
cthulfuegohondje: See, I have business cards and everything01:19
Fanskapetbob2, been there.. done that :)01:19
thoreauputicxirtam: do you want it?01:19
bob2Fanskapet: talk to them then, their configure script is broken01:19
Howitzeris it hard to make a distro? :/01:19
bob2Fanskapet: assuming you deleted config.cache01:19
cthulfuegoCthulfuego - F/OSS MAN - Devourer of Worlds01:19
bob2Howitzer: a lot of pointless work01:19
Howitzerwhy?01:19
hondjeHowitzer: Free/Open source01:19
Cheticmoagg, everybody play moagg01:19
cthulfuegohondje: RMS isn't a _person_, it's a franchise.01:19
bob2Howitzer: because there are already five bajillion distributions out there01:19
Howitzermaybe o01:20
hondjeRMS is a prophet, brother cthulfuego01:20
CMyes and ubuntu is the best :D01:20
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hondjeHe saw the future01:20
Fanskapetbob2,  hmm where is the config.cache located?01:20
cthulfuegoAnd the future was HAIRY!01:20
Howitzeri just hope they don't make a distro made for acting like windows01:20
bob2Fanskapet: in the source tree01:20
thoreauputicxirtam: ping ?01:20
cthulfuego!ping01:20
ubotuKeep your fingers to yourself, cthulfuego.01:20
HowitzerHOARY :w01:20
bob2Howitzer: it's called lindows01:20
HowitzerEw01:20
Fanskapetbob2,  yeah that im aware of but i can't find it in the tree :)01:20
CMewwwwwwwwwwwww01:20
cthulfuegoUbuntu 5.04 - Hairy Hedgehod01:21
bob2Fanskapet: guess that's not the problem then01:21
hondjeAll the other 'big cats' are kinda hokey....ESR wants it to always be 1989, DJB is a putz, Linus is a human and ergo not-perfect, Larry Wall is too busy being funny and making a scary language...01:21
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vnikihi @ll01:21
Howitzerthey actually ABUSED linux into making a Winblows alike distro? *cries*01:21
bob2Fanskapet: their configure script is screwed if it bails and you have build-essential installed01:21
hondjede Raadt is de Rant :D01:21
bob2Fanskapet: unless you have silly cflags or something set01:21
cthulfuegohondje: Once you get past the seizures and drinking problem, I'm probably the sanest foss person.01:21
Fanskapetbob2,  /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc-lib/x86_64-linux/3.3.5/libgcc.a when searching for -lgcc01:21
hondjeHowitzer: on the plus side, lindows spends money on a few projects01:21
Fanskapet/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc01:21
Fanskapetthat's what the logfile gives me01:22
hondjeresierfs offhand01:22
hondjecthulfuego: I'd hope so, they're all nuts01:22
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HowitzerUbuntu does aswell(bounties?)01:22
bob2Fanskapet: and you haven't changed any of the symlinks or anything?01:22
HowitzerYES01:22
Howitzerfinally01:22
Howitzeri compiled the GBA Emulator \ o /01:22
Fanskapetbob2, nah.. followed the guide on ubuntuforums downloading the sourcetree from their cvs01:22
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hondjeoh neat, nautilus desn't show backup files01:22
CMwoohoo at last got that damn floppy open01:22
bob2yay forums01:22
bob2Fanskapet: er01:22
hondjeHowitzer: what's a GBA emulator?01:23
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bob2Fanskapet: compiling wine on amd64 is kinda pointless01:23
Fanskapetit is?01:23
bob2Fanskapet: unless you actually have amd64 windows programs01:23
bob2and I don't even think wine supports that01:23
Fanskapetaha so it's unable to run 32bit apps?01:23
Howitzeran emulator that you can play GameBoy Advance games on01:23
Fanskapetah well then i'l just throw it away :)01:23
Howitzerbtw, i this normal while compiling?01:23
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Howitzerif g++ -DPACKAGE_NAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\"\" -DPACKAGE_STRING=\"\" -DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\"\" -DPACKAGE=\"VisualBoyAdvance\" -DVERSION=\"1.7.2\" -DHAVE_LIBZ=1 -DHAVE_LIBPNG=1 -DHAVE_LIBPTHREAD=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_STAT_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=101:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYaghh my eyes spam01:24
bob2Howitzer: yes01:24
Howitzersorry for spam :(01:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol01:24
bob2twilight: please turn that off01:24
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^ it's ok01:24
Howitzerehh01:24
hondjeHowitzer: How do you plug the games in?01:24
bob2god g++ is slow01:24
bob2I want to cry01:24
hondjeHowitzer: Or more likely, how do you dump the games to your hdd?01:24
HowitzerVisualBoyAdvance ./[ROMnaam] 01:24
Howitzerehh01:24
Howitzerwell01:24
hondjeah, say no more01:24
hondjeothers do it, etc01:25
Howitzeryou can do it illegally(way easier)or legal way01:25
hondjewhat's the legal way?01:25
Howitzerlegal way:01:25
Howitzerbuy the cartridge, buy a flash drive01:25
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hondjeoh, the games are on flash cards?01:25
bob2note that the legal way is probably still illegal in the US01:25
hondjeI thought they were on something else01:25
Howitzerload the content of the cartridge into your pc01:25
Howitzerbut01:25
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hondjebob2: probably...I'm more interested in the morally-okay-to-hondje, which excludes the DMCA when it meets my opinion of fair use01:26
Howitzerit doesn't work in linux since the programs for transferring it are windows only01:26
Howitzerand actually01:26
hondjeoh, you can't just dump the contents?01:26
Howitzerit should be fully legal01:26
hondjethen it is most certainly illegal, stupid dmca01:26
bob2hondje: hah, amen01:26
Howitzerbecause you bought the cartridge01:26
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hondjeIf you have to decode something, Howitzer, the dmca makes it illegal...which doesn't mean wrong :)01:27
Howitzerand since you can do anything you would like to01:27
Howitzerit isn't decoding01:27
Howitzerthe cartridge contains 1 file:01:27
Howitzer-game-.gba01:27
hondjehrm, I'll have to look into that, Howitzer .... my brother has a bunch of games that he doesn't use anymore01:27
Howitzerand you open it like you open a .jpg with an image viewer01:27
hondjebob2: is there a non-paypal way to donate?01:28
HowitzerWoohoo01:28
Howitzerit works01:28
Howitzernow to just get a .gba :(01:28
hondjeI have a magical flash card reader that works in all distros w/ usb :)01:29
HowitzerOo01:29
bob2hondje: someone's working on it, but I haven't heard anything about it in a while01:29
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hondjebob2: okay, I'll just monitor that or something01:29
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inva|idhow do I flush my dns cache01:30
hondjeespecially if I talk the boss man into it, like I did w/ mozilla01:30
lpihHeh, i have 2 GFX cards in my comp, a GF4TI and voodoo1.01:30
lpihInstall defaulted Voodoo1 as my xorg card ;)01:30
hondjelpih: hehehe01:30
Howitzeroh god no01:30
HowitzerOH GOD NO01:30
hondjeubuntu defaulted to my onboard instead of my nvidia card01:31
hondjemaybe I should file a bug on that....01:31
lpih+ my X is freezing becouse i have Nvidia display card and newer kernel than 2.6.701:31
Howitzerthat guy made his website 'optimized for IE' :'(01:31
lpihIt's a known problem :S01:31
lpihhad same when on gentoo :)01:31
hondjelpih: really? I've never had a problem, what drivers you using?01:31
thoreauputicxirtam: I'm assuming you don't want the fluxbox deb...01:31
lpihhondje: apt-get install nvidia-glx ;)01:31
lpihhondje: Me and my friend had EXACTLY the same problem, and same solution01:31
CMwell i am ready to install ubuntu 5.04 so wish me luck people :P01:31
hondjelpih: ah, and X dies on you? Not using compositing voodoo?01:32
lpihhondje: I'm using the GF4 now.01:32
hondjelpih: interesting, what's the solution? Is it apg related?01:32
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lpihIt doesn't die, it just .. Somehow loses "focus"01:32
lpihyou can move cursor, XMMS continues playing etc.01:32
lpihbut you cant do anything, even change VM01:32
lpihAnd the solution was to change to older kernel :S01:32
hondjecan't ctrl-alt-f1 to a tty either, lpih ?01:32
lpihNope.01:32
lpihall i can do is reboot01:33
hondjeOnly newer-kernel + nvidia problem I had was with cedega about a year ago :-/01:33
lpihIt depends on the card i think01:33
lpihhondje: People on the gentoo forums had same problem01:33
hondjelpih: that's wild....my friend had problems with nvidia and gentoo hardened, but not the kernel..it was pax I think01:33
lpihAnd the reason - unknown01:33
lpihDunno if it's known by now01:33
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lpihI'll make a new kernel now, lets see ->01:34
macarthy_hi all01:34
lpihHi01:34
inva|idhow to flush my dns cache?01:34
hondjelpih: ever mess w/ the agp settings in xorg.conf?01:34
lpihhondje: Not really?01:34
macarthy_how do I find out what package supplies X11/Xmu/StdSel.h01:34
lpihMy only "special" option is the busid :P01:34
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hondjelpih: a lot of crashes that have kernel tie-ins are fixed with that01:35
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hondjeI'm not too hip to the science there, since I use a pci card, though01:35
lpih:D01:35
lpihThe more human solution might just be a 2.6.7 kernel :)01:35
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lpihAfter all, it works.01:35
hondjeyeah, but it's exploitable01:35
lpih:O?01:35
thoreauputicmacarthy_: eter@prospero:~$ dpkg -S X11/Xmu/StdSel.h01:36
thoreauputiclibxmu-dev: /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xmu/StdSel.h01:36
lpihwell this is a desktop computer inside a NAT :)01:36
hondjeyeah, there's one for all kernels < 2.6.8, I don't think it's remote but still ugly01:36
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macarthy_thoreauputic, thanks01:36
thoreauputicmacarthy_: dpkg -S is useful at times ;)01:36
macarthy_super01:36
hondjelpih: Option "NvAGP" "integer" is the option01:37
thoreauputicmacarthy_: I think it might be  dep for xlibs-dev, actually - I didn't install that directly AFAIK01:37
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hondje0 kills agp, 1 uses nvidias internal agp, 2 uses agpgart, 3 uses agpgart if it's there, else nvidia's one01:38
hondjedefault is 3, try 1 after you unload the agpgart module01:38
hondjeIf not, then enjoy recompiling the kernel, sorry couldn't help, etc :)01:38
lpihhondje: sounds like rocket science01:38
thoreauputicmacarthy_: yep - apt-cache show xlibs-dev shows it a s a dependency01:38
hondjelpih: nah, rocket science is all F = ma ;-)01:39
lpih.. or game of throw a dice01:39
hondjelpih: I hear it hypothesized that agpgart changed, and that's why odd stuff happens....just junk I picked up in #nvidia01:39
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nonexxhello01:40
hondjeespecially since us PCI users never have the problem01:40
lpihOk :)01:40
djsmacarthy_: http://packages.ubuntu.com provides a search interface for which packages provide a given file01:40
nonexxany idea why "startx" fails, and "sudo startx" works ?01:40
lpihnonexx: What does it say?01:40
lpihsounds like chmod problem :)01:40
nonexxlpih - no EE in logfile ...01:40
hondjenonexx: just curious, why not use gdm?01:40
nonexxlpih - GDM/KDM fail also01:40
HappyFoolnonexx: you're not using breezy by any chance?01:41
nonexxI can type my login, then I come back to gdm01:41
nonexxHappyFool - nope.01:41
hondjenonexx: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start fails?01:41
nonexxhondje - gdm starts. But I cant login01:41
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nonexxonly way to start my system is "sudo startx", then I have my gnome (as root...)01:41
HappyFoolthere's nothing in the gdm logs (/var/log/gdm/*) or ~/.xsession-errors ?01:42
hondjenonexx: or in auth.log?01:42
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Goshawki've a problem with java on firefox01:42
hondjethat's usually pretty comprehensive01:42
hondjeGoshawk: drop it on me, brother01:42
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Goshawki installed the 2 packagges: sun-j2r... and sun-j2sdk01:42
lpkHeh, i love weird problems ;)01:42
nonexxhondje : Jun 18 13:36:34 localhost kdm: :0[6845] : (pam_unix) session opened for user jul by (uid=0)01:43
nonexxJun 18 13:36:34 localhost kdm: :0[6845] : (pam_unix) session closed for user jul01:43
nonexx(kdm, yes. but same thing with gdm)01:43
Goshawkbut firefox does not use them01:43
hondjenonexx: hrm, fascinating01:43
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HappyFoolhey Heimdall -- any luck with your modem?01:44
hondjeGoshawk: did you make symlinks to the plugins dir?01:44
Goshawkno... do i need to do them?01:44
hondjenonexx: well, beats me man01:44
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hondjeGoshawk: yeah, firefox only looks in its plugins dir for plugins01:44
nonexxhondje - Ill try adding a new virgin user.01:44
hondjeGoshawk: did you install the java pkgs from sun?01:44
Goshawk(i did not reat to make a link in the ubuntu wiki)01:44
Goshawkhondje, sure01:44
nonexxhondje - brb01:45
HeimdallHappyFool : well no... :(01:45
HappyFoolHeimdall: hm01:45
hondjeGoshawk: ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so01:45
HappyFoolHeimdall: how far did you get?01:45
hondjeGoshawk: or better, ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/01:45
Goshawkon the ubuntu wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java there is nothing about a creation of a sym link in the method 1 (sun packages)01:45
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hondjeGoshawk: okay, let me take a looksie01:46
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HeimdallHappyFool : well I didn't go so far... but I installed all we spoke about01:46
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HeimdallHappyFool : I begin to have serious doubts01:46
HappyFoolHeimdall: why's that?01:47
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Goshawkhondje, if i'm not going wrong, in the wiki there is written only to download and install packages01:47
runenesI want to connect 2 computers together using their wireless card, can that be done in linux without an accses point?01:47
nonexxhondje - same thing with a new created user.01:47
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hondjenonexx: I'm totally out of thoughts, man01:47
HeimdallHappyFool : well... I think I have installed all, but it still dont detect the modem01:47
hondjenonexx: that's really odd to me01:47
hondjenonexx: mess with anything X related lately?01:47
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nonexxhondje - nope. And it works fine as root01:48
nonexxI have quite enough of ubuntu, to be honest ...01:48
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Goshawkhondje, s$ ls01:48
Goshawklibflash-mozplugin.so  libjavaplugin.so01:48
hondjenonexx: well damn, that's just bizarre....I'd tell you to ask in #ubuntu...but hrm01:48
Goshawkthere is the libjavaplugin.so01:48
hondjeGoshawk: ls -l libjavaplugin.so01:48
hondjebtw, if you type just libjava<tab> where <tab> is hitting it, it'll spell it out for you01:48
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Goshawkls -l libjavaplugin.so01:49
Goshawklrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 39 2005-06-17 22:24 libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so01:49
hondjenonexx: yeah, I can dig it, that's an insane bug01:49
hondjeGoshawk: file /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so01:49
HeimdallHappyFool :I installed the source and dameon package01:50
hondjenonexx: Maybe #gnome would know, since gdm is their thing01:50
Goshawk ls -l /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so01:50
Goshawklrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 58 2005-06-17 22:24 /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so -> /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so01:50
HeimdallHappyFool : and it seems to be successful01:50
Goshawkgoing to see if that exixst01:50
HappyFoolHeimdall: ok. and the build? (make-kpkg) ?01:50
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hondjeGoshawk: run that file command01:50
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hondjefile shows you what kind of file something is...*nix uses magic numbers, not extensions like 'other' operating systems01:51
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HeimdallHappyFool : hum... this I don't know very well what it does01:51
Heimdallis it for the kernel-package ?01:51
MezI hate it when arts crashes01:51
HappyFoolHeimdall: i'm actually just trying to install the created deb and it's refusing. odd01:51
hondjeGoshawk: it should say 'libjavaplugin_oji.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped'01:51
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HappyFoolHeimdall: well, there's a build step01:51
HappyFoolHeimdall: it's not enough to just install the source01:52
Goshawkhondje, wait i found the problem01:52
hondjeHappyFool: using make-kpkg?01:52
HappyFoolhondje: yeah. Heimdall has a smartlink modem01:52
HeimdallHappyFool : I admit that I'm quite lost with all of these things to do01:52
hondjeHappyFool: I was wondering, do the debs it makes run update-grub?01:52
HappyFoolHeimdall: yeah, i guess it is a bit of an information overload01:52
hondjeGoshawk: what's that?01:52
verveeldhas anybody installed ubuntu as a dual-boot 2nd OS on a machine with winXP01:53
HappyFoolhondje: i don't know. this is for building a module only, for a modem, so i don't think that is needed in this case01:53
HappyFoolverveeld: yip, i have01:53
HeimdallHappyFool : I typed lspci and it told me SiS AC'97 modem controller01:53
thoreauputicverveeld: lots of people01:53
HappyFoolHeimdall: ah01:53
Goshawkhondje, Goshawk  ls -l /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so01:53
GoshawkGoshawk lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 58 2005-06-17 22:24 /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so -> /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so do you remember this? ok... but this file does not exixst there, it's in another directory!, it's in /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns701:53
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hondjeHappyFool: oh, okay01:53
HappyFoolHeimdall: heh. so all this might be for nothing ? ;)01:53
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hondjeGoshawk: hehehe01:54
Goshawkhondje, by default the jre directory is miss, this should be fixed...01:54
Goshawk:D01:54
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HappyFoolHeimdall: never fear! there is a neat little script available from here: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/ that should tell you what driver you need01:54
HeimdallHappyFool : hummm I'm not sure, because... I search on the web with this reference, and I found something about smartlink modem too01:54
Goshawki've to change the link fron /etc/alternatives01:54
Goshawkhow can i report this bu?01:54
Goshawkbug?01:54
hondjeGoshawk: There's two way to do java, and the technically easy make-jpkg one I always forget, so I do it by hand (easy once you've done it a couple times)01:54
hondjeGoshawk: yeah, https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/01:55
HeimdallHappyFool : do u know windows ?01:55
HappyFoolHeimdall: err, a little01:55
hondjeGoshawk: or just update the wiki, that's why it's a wiki ;-)01:55
Goshawkhondje, yes... but i use ubuntu for 15 pcs at work, and i wanna an easy apt-get command to make it running01:55
Goshawk:D01:55
hondjeGoshawk: oh, in that case make HappyFool tell you the magic way01:55
HeimdallHappyFool : well; it tells me thah mymodem is a smartlink01:55
lpkHmm does anyone remember where to disable antialias from XFce4?01:55
Goshawkhondje, it's not a missed information, it seems a bug01:55
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HappyFoolhondje: hrm? ;)01:56
hondjeoh, Goshawk, then bugs away ;-)  Or tell them in #ubuntu-motu01:56
hondjeHappyFool: the magic make-jpkg thing01:56
HappyFoolHeimdall: then it probably is a smart link01:56
Goshawkok.. ubuntu-motu01:56
HappyFoolhondje: err01:56
Goshawkthanks :D01:56
xxenonhondje - nonexx here. For some reason, /tmp was +w for root only. Thats what caused my problem01:56
HappyFoolhondje: i think that's Seveas speciality ;)01:56
Goshawktime to have lunch.. see you01:56
hondjexxenon: wow, how odd, I'd have never guessed01:56
hondjexxenon: how'd you figure it out?01:56
HeimdallHappyFool : so, I did dpkg -i for the source and daemon .deb01:56
hondje!java01:56
ubotusomebody said java was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java01:56
xxenonhondje - "man startx" complained about not being able to create a temporary file ...01:57
Heimdallbut I think I did the things not in the right order01:57
hondjeGoshawk: Hit up Seveas, his way makes a nice .deb you can share to all your boxes01:57
hondjexxenon: ah, good thinking01:57
hondjexxenon: you know what sucks, is that now you mention it, I once set up /tmp accidently mounted ro, and had all sorts of X problems01:58
xxenonhondje - I would have expected something more detailed in the logfile....01:58
hondjexxenon: yeah, like (EE) CANNOT WRITE TO /TMP!!01:58
xxenonexactly.01:58
HappyFoolHeimdall: ok, you also need to install kernel-package and module-assistant (both downloaded debs)01:58
xxenonthere was no EE at all.01:58
thoreauputiclpk: I don't know about anti-alias in xfce, but you can set it in /etc/fonts/local.conf IIRC01:59
hondjeXorg errors are half the time useless01:59
HeimdallHappyFool : actually, now I can make tests, it is easier since I'm not on my laptop anymore01:59
xxenonwell, thx for your time, hondje.01:59
HappyFoolxxenon: and nothing in ~/.xsession-errors ?01:59
hondjexxenon: Glad you got it working...any idea why no write to /tmp?01:59
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HeimdallHappyFool : I think it is done01:59
xxenonHappyFool - I hadnt checked it.01:59
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HappyFoolxxenon: just a guess. i think stderr gets piped there01:59
HeimdallI'm sure at least for modules-assistant because I used it01:59
lpkhondje: thanks for the agp tip, seems somewhat stable(r)02:00
HappyFoolHeimdall: ok02:00
ivolooserhi together02:00
HappyFoolHeimdall: so you can work there now without leaving irc?02:00
hondjelpk: Hope it stays that way, and they're pretty smart in #nvidia if it borks on you some more02:00
lpk:}02:00
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HeimdallI made what is written in README.Debian02:00
HeimdallHappyFool : yes, I have my laptop right next to me02:00
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HeimdallI'm booting it02:00
HappyFoolHeimdall: excellent02:00
hondjewow, I made cat cry02:00
HappyFoolHeimdall: let me know when you get to a command prompt02:00
Heimdall(I've been able to modify grub !!!) :-D02:00
hondjecat said "...Too much output, ignoring rest..."02:00
ivolooseris there someone witch can help me to update breezy ?02:01
HappyFoolHeimdall: heh -- good stuff02:01
ivoloosereverytime after an update i xserver doesnt work02:01
mindspinKubuntu question:can anybody tell me why only time and timezone and not date is shown in taskbar? I've enabled show datein kcontrol02:01
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hondjeivolooser: /topic, buddy....X is hosed in breezy for a bit02:01
HappyFoolbreezy is broken atm; if you're not a hacker, maybe you shouldn't be using it02:01
Fanskapetahh. I becoming more and more for each day :)02:01
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kbrooksheh02:02
ivolooserwhat i should use?02:02
HappyFoolhoary02:02
robotgeek:)02:02
kbrooksivolooser, hoary02:02
ivolooserok thanks so far.02:02
hondjeHappyFool: oh, if you're bored and want some fun, find an apple forum and tell them how you hope for Dell to sell boxes w/ OS X02:02
robotgeekit's breezy hour in here!02:02
ivolooseri try it... could i change just the sources?02:02
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kbrookshoary != breezy  and hoary > breezy02:02
kbrooks:)02:02
hondjeivolooser: downgrades w/ apt are near impossible02:02
HappyFoolhondje: heh. i'll stick to emacs-vs-vi, thanks02:03
kbrookshondje, its possible tho02:03
ivolooserok - thanks, i hope see you later guys02:03
hondjeHappyFool: Not even an occasional *BSD is dying? :-(02:03
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robotgeekHappyFool: vi rocks!02:03
HeimdallHappyFool : modify the grub command wasn't difficult with a good graphic editor ;)02:03
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robotgeeklet me start if off!!02:03
hondjekbrooks: yeah, I only could do it once though :) pinning madness02:03
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rauxhi02:04
rauxwhy I have this message02:04
rauxAn error occurred while loading the archive.02:04
HappyFoolrobotgeek: hold your position. a re-education team is en route02:04
rauxraux Command exited abnormally.02:04
verveeldthoreauputic: ja i know about that stuff, thanks hey02:05
HappyFoolHeimdall: gedit?02:05
Heimdallyes02:05
thoreauputicverveeld: OK02:05
HappyFoolgood stuff02:05
HeimdallI tried emacs... but I haven't got it02:05
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robotgeekHappyFool: when i am editing text, i want to edit text...no browse the web! I have firefox for that!!02:05
HeimdallI think it is on the cd, I hope02:05
HappyFoolit's on the cd, i think. you can use synaptic to install it02:05
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Heimdallhehe02:05
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Heimdallsynaptic ?02:06
thoreauputicrobotgeek: ed! ed is the editor! man ed! *grin*02:06
kbrooksyes02:06
HappyFoolHeimdall: yeah, package install thingy. System -> Administration -> Synaptic02:06
robotgeekthoreauputic: :)02:06
skywaterhello everyone. does ubuntu supports intel wireless 2200bg network card?02:06
Heimdallah I didn't know that, I have a lot to learn ;)02:06
Heimdallwell now I'm ready02:06
rauxI want to extract an .rar file but I have this error: An error occurred while loading the archive. Command exited abnormally.02:06
hondjeskywater: intel cards are well supported in linux, but YMMV02:06
HappyFoolHeimdall: synaptic is a little better when you have an internet connection though ;)02:07
Heimdallterm openned02:07
HappyFoolHeimdall: ok02:07
rauxwhat's wrong ? :S02:07
HappyFoolHeimdall: cd /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-502:07
verveeldok, let me rephrase ques - anybody installed ubuntu on a hard drive with only one partition with winXP on it?02:07
verveeldin a dual boot02:08
HeimdallHappyFool :ok02:08
robotgeekverveeld: u need to repartition!02:08
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hondjethoreauputic: You're wise and cunning in the ways of the Ubuntu...02:08
HappyFoolHeimdall: now sudo make-kpkg modules_image02:08
robotgeekraux: maybe the rar is compressed with latest and greatest winrar?02:08
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mindspinverveeld take a live cd and use gparted or partition magic on xp02:08
verveeldrobotgeek: i know, but has anybody actually used the ubuntu resize partition tool in the installer02:08
robotgeekHappyFool: the debian way, i see!02:08
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hondjethoreauputic: where would I go to find a guy to help me track down my firefox problems, someone who can devote time and lots of know-how02:09
HappyFoolrobotgeek: well, the way described in /usr/share/doc/sl-modem-source/README.Debian, anyway02:09
verveeldmindspin: what about the ubuntu installer, doesn't it also repartition02:09
obrienHello.. for some reason.. i cannot get sound out of xmms when i choose ALSA or ESD..all sounds work in Gnome.. could someone help?02:09
Heimdallok02:09
mindspinnever tried it02:09
Heimdallit does something,wait02:09
robotgeekverveeld: i am on a mac, gparted doesn't work ...02:09
thoreauputichondje: he who thinks himself wise has not attained the Ubuntu Way *g*02:09
HappyFoolHeimdall: might take a little while. you should see lots of exciting commands and stuff02:09
Heimdalllol yeah I see02:09
rauxrobotgeek,  if it's possible, then I can't extract it ?02:09
Heimdalla LOT of things02:09
HappyFoolHeimdall: that last line should be: 'Module /usr/src/modules/sl-modem processed fine'02:10
verveeldi'm using intel x8602:10
thoreauputichondje: I haven't been following your firefox woes...02:10
robotgeekverveeld: i havent tried it, but it *should* work!02:10
mindspinverveeld make a backup first02:10
Heimdallyeah I was just typing it to you :)02:10
Heimdallso ?02:10
verveeldrobotgeek: *should* work! lol! BETTER work!02:11
robotgeekraux: i am not really sure...02:11
rauxok02:11
hondjethoreauputic: amazingly slow to render pages, frequent segfaults on stupid stuff, immune to apt-get remove --purge and reinstalls02:11
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HappyFoolHeimdall: ok, now 'cd ..' and 'ls *.deb'02:11
hondjeI've been filing heavily detailed bugs, but no love :-/02:11
robotgeekverveeld: atleast then, we would know!!02:11
Heimdallyeah I think I had already done this02:11
thoreauputichondje: hmm - you didn't use the version from *shudder* backports, did you?02:11
verveeldrobotbeek: lol02:11
HappyFoolHeimdall: you should see a file 'sl-modem-modules-2.6.10.....deb' where ... probably depends on your precise kernel version02:11
Heimdallcoz I already have the deb file02:12
HappyFoolHeimdall: ok02:12
Heimdallin fact02:12
HeimdallI have two debs file there02:12
HappyFoolHeimdall: i tried to install this file earlier and it broke, but i think we can force it02:12
HappyFooloh?02:12
hondjethoreauputic: hell no ;) I've known jdong since before he got 'buntufied, I know better ;)02:12
Heimdallone ..custom...02:12
HappyFooland the other?02:12
thoreauputichondje: heh02:12
HappyFooloh...02:12
Heimdalllet me tell you wait02:12
HappyFoolHeimdall: stand-by02:12
Heimdallthis is long02:12
thoreauputichondje: have you tried disabling IPV-6 in about:config ?02:13
HappyFoolyou can cut-and-paste with the mouse02:13
Heimdallthey were probably there before02:13
hondjethoreauputic: oh yeah, I did all the standard stuff02:13
HappyFoolHeimdall: can you hang on one second?02:13
hondjeNg was kind enough to dig around with me, and was stunned at the badness I'm getting02:13
thoreauputichondje: ah... well I know not, then, Grasshopper ;-)02:13
hondjeSometimes firefox will freeze and run at 100% cpu for two or three minutes :(02:13
hondjethoreauputic: I shall find Mr. Firefox and fix this02:13
obrienCould someone help me with sound? Sound works fine in GNOME sound events, logon etc...but i cannot get sound from xmms, beep-media-player..i tried to set XMMS to use alsa and esd, and still no luck02:14
Heimdallsure02:14
verveeldthanks all, i'll be off either destroying winxp or giving it a new friend... c u later when I'm trying to setup ISDN properly!02:14
HappyFoolHeimdall: i think maybe one needs to be in 'linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386' not 'linux-headers-2.6.10-5'02:14
robotgeekhondje: firefox was doing that to me on OS X, but it's been all good on linux02:14
HappyFoolHeimdall: hmm02:14
mindspinhondje You can beleave it or not, but i fixed that on a thinkpad by disabling acpi02:14
Heimdallsl-modem-modules-2-6.10_2.9.9a-lubuntu4+10.00.Custom_i386.deb02:14
verveeldprobably not today tho! cheers everyone and thanks again02:14
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hondjemindspin: hrm, this is on a desktop02:14
HappyFoolno, it's still a .Custom_i386.deb file02:14
HappyFoolHeimdall: what's the other one called?02:14
mindspin't was just an idea02:14
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hondjemindspin: I love ideas, thanks :)02:15
=== hondje lsmod | grep acpi
hondjeWOW, I have a lot of modules02:15
Heimdallsl-modem-modules-2-6.10-5-386_2.9.9a-lubuntu4+2.6.10-34-i386.deb02:15
robotgeekhondje: :)02:15
hondjerobotgeek: I should whip out wc, looks like 5002:16
Goshawki've a file. how can i see in wich package this file is in?02:16
robotgeekmodules shootout, anyone? :)02:16
hondjepcspkr                  3496  0 <---okay, why's that not compiled in? :o02:16
Goshawkwhich02:16
robotgeek4402:16
HappyFoolHeimdall: hmm, i think that one might be the better one to install02:16
Heimdalloki02:17
HappyFoolHeimdall: i don't know why i keep getting a 'Custm.deb', but nevermind02:17
hondjeoh hey, not compiled in on sarge, either02:17
robotgeekGoshawk: what exactly are u looking for?02:17
HappyFoolHeimdall: 'sudo dpkg -i <that-file>'02:17
Heimdallok, you know I'v made a lot of things... I don't remember where this file come from02:17
HappyFoolHeimdall: err02:17
hondjeany way to make ls show absolute paths?02:18
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HappyFoolHeimdall: well, let's try it anyway02:18
Goshawkrobotgeek, i've a file, and i know that it's inside a package that i've installed, how can i locate the package?02:18
Goshawkwhich option of dpkg?02:18
HeimdallI'm doning it02:18
robotgeekGoshawk: 'dpkg -l' to list02:18
HappyFoolerrors? success?02:19
HeimdallHappyFool : creating /dev/modem symlink, pointing to /dev/ttySL002:19
HappyFoolHeimdall: excellent02:19
robotgeekGoshawk: now, i am not sure how to check for installed...but that shud give u a list of all packages on your system02:19
HeimdallHappyFool : I ahd this already many times02:19
Heimdallhad*02:19
HappyFoolHeimdall: oh02:19
Heimdallyes02:19
HappyFoolHeimdall: so not so excellent02:19
Goshawkrobotgeek, it's a list of installed packages, not the fiels inside them02:19
Heimdallbut never mind, continue02:19
hondjeanyway to make ls show absolute paths?02:20
robotgeekGoshawk: you might want to do a "dpkg -l | less"02:20
Heimdallthe daemon ?02:20
mindspinlstree ?02:20
HappyFoolHeimdall: does lsmod|grep sl-modem show anything02:20
hondjemindspin: hrm02:20
Goshawkrobotgeek, yes i think the same02:20
HappyFoolHeimdall: yeah, we can check that in a moment02:20
mindspinnope02:20
HappyFoolHeimdall: you've installed it, right? sl-modem-daemon?02:20
hondjemindspin: what pkg is that in?02:20
mindspinhaha02:20
Heimdalllsmod|grep sl-modem does nothing02:21
mindspinthought I had something similiar on woody ;-)02:21
Goshawkrobotgeek, do you know more about  dpkg -S | --search filename-search-pattern ...02:21
Goshawk                  Search for a filename from installed packages.02:21
Goshawk??02:21
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Goshawkthis should do te stuff02:21
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mindspinon woody is pstree02:21
mindspinits even on ubuntu02:22
robotgeekGoshawk: nope, never played with it too much!02:22
robotgeekGoshawk: sorry!02:22
mindspinshows only processes...02:22
Goshawkrobotgeek, ok i'll investigate02:22
|Ivanch0|hi someone have instaled a lan between ubuntu wxp?02:22
Goshawk:D02:22
HeimdallHappyFool : lsmod|grep sl-modem does nothing, what was it for ?02:22
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HappyFoolHeimdall: lsmod lists loaded kernel modules02:22
Heimdalloh .. :(02:23
HappyFoolHeimdall: | is a 'pipe' , and grep is a text search utility02:23
HappyFoolHeimdall: don't despair yet02:23
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rob^Heimdall, you shouldn't run a command you dont understand...02:23
Heimdall:/02:23
robotgeekalrite ppls, later!02:23
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HappyFoolHeimdall: you don't remember what the command you gave to build the non-custom deb was, by any chance?02:23
Heimdallrob^ I know but I trust HappyFool02:23
rob^ok :)02:23
mindspinls -R shows path recursively02:24
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HeimdallHappyFool : you mean the custom one ?02:24
mindspinls --help gives help02:24
HappyFoolno, the non-custom one ;) the one you finally installed02:24
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HeimdallI thought it was the make commande02:24
Heimdalllol02:24
HeimdallHappyFool : maybe we would spend more time to re-do all from the begining, now that I can type the command it shouldn't be too long ?02:25
HappyFoolHeimdall: i think everything is ok02:25
Heimdallah ok02:25
HappyFoolHeimdall: we probably just need to start the daemon and load the module02:25
Heimdallyeah02:26
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Heimdallso the daemon I've already tied to start it02:26
Heimdallin /etc/init.d02:26
Heimdallrestart02:26
kmikzhey you guys.... can't fint ethereal in synaptic.... i know it should be there... what ever shall I do ?   :)))02:26
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hondjekmikz: do you have 'universe' repositories set up?02:27
kmikzdon't know02:27
HappyFoolHeimdall: and what did it say?02:28
HeimdallHappyFool : to install the daemon I did dpkg -i sl-modem-daemon....deb02:28
Heimdallto the file you told me to dowload02:28
hondjekmikz: /msg me and I'll show you how to check it, and add it if needed02:28
HappyFoolHeimdall: right, but when you did /etc/init.d/slmodemd (or whatever) what did it say?02:29
bycvhi all02:29
jwarki have a case scenario here... i couldn't save a file into a floppy disk in a not admin mode02:29
HeimdallI'm doing it right now to tell you02:29
Heimdall=> /etc/init.d. sl-modem-daemon restart ok?02:30
HappyFoolHeimdall: the command?02:30
Heimdallyes02:30
HappyFoolHeimdall: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/sl-modem-daemon restart'02:30
jwarkdo i need to mount it in a not admin environment???02:30
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HeimdallI saw on the howto page to type this02:31
HappyFoolHeimdall: i'm not sure of the precise command name -- you can use tab completion02:31
thoreauputicjwark: use the "users" option in /etc/fstab02:31
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HappyFoolHeimdall: otherwise maybe 'sudo invoke-rc.d sl-modem-daemon restart'02:31
HappyFoolHeimdall: i believe those two commands are equivalent02:31
quidoffhi I just downloaded the new kernel. Does anyone know a good tut for how to install it02:32
thoreauputicHappyFool: correct02:32
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HappyFoolthoreauputic: do you know make-kpkg at all?02:32
HeimdallHappyFool : look at this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto at the end of the page02:32
thoreauputicHappyFool: no, I've never needed to compile a kernel ;)02:32
HeimdallHappyFool : his driver seems rather finicky. Basically, if it works, a file called /dev/ttySL0 will exist. If it doesn't work, running sudo /etc/init.d/sl-modem-daemon restart may help, as might running modprobe slamr, but it seems somewhat random. A reboot may help too.02:32
HappyFoolthoreauputic: ah ok. i can't tell why the module compile command is building a 'custom' module02:33
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hondjethoreauputic: never got curious, or felt the urge to get some cred? :-D02:33
tskhi, why don't i have a man page for gethostid()?02:33
bob2tsk: install manpages-dev02:33
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tskbob2: oh, excellent :)02:33
nexuslabhi02:33
HappyFoolHeimdall: ah-ha02:33
thoreauputichondje: one day when I'm feeling motivated I'll look into it I guess :)02:34
HeimdallHappyFool yes ?02:34
HappyFoolHeimdall: is this how you got that .deb ? the one that wasn't custom?02:34
hondjethoreauputic: It's overrated02:34
HappyFoolHeimdall: ok02:34
xoztsk: man gethostid without ()?02:34
HeimdallI don't know02:34
hondjethoreauputic: everyone goes on about performance, but I did some actual serious number smashing, and the difference was minimal :-/02:34
HappyFoolHeimdall: standby, let me run this quick. I wonder how i did it before *puzzlement*02:34
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jwarkhello guys... any tips for a newbie on ubuntu???02:35
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Mezjwark, http://www.ubuntuguide.org02:35
thoreauputichondje: so the general wisdom has it: rather like the fact that a default slackwre install is usually fsster than gentoo ;-)02:35
nexuslabi installed kubuntu...without dhcp...so without net repositories...then after installation...when i try to do "sudo mycommand" i get this error: sudo: unable to lookup desktop via gethostbyname()02:35
hondjejwark: I have a good one....try to drink deeply of package management, especially if you're coming from windows02:35
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hondjethoreauputic: I love that little factoid ;-)02:35
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nexuslabPassword : postdrop: unable to look up public /pickup:no such file or directory02:35
HeimdallHappyFool : sudo /etc/init.d/sl-modem-daemon restart tells :02:36
Mezhondje, how do you drink code?02:36
jwarkthanks , Mez!02:36
hondjethoreauputic: It's a shoddy benchmark, but I left the box running for 3 days each time running the numbers, I figure that's intensive enough that you'd notice02:36
hondjeMez: With zen-fu02:36
griffhi all - I'm trying to start lm_sensors - and I'm getting the error "setting sensor limits..." any quick solutions?02:36
jwarkhondje, what's a package management???02:36
HappyFoolHeimdall: hrm. i think that might be for warty - the 'Depends' field is already updated02:36
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hondjejwark: You know how in windows, you go to sites and download stuff to run?02:36
HappyFoolHeimdall: i guessed the module name wrong earlier, btw02:37
hondjejwark: well, in Ubuntu you click 'system' on the panel, go to 'administration', and run 'synaptic' and it'll magically download and install things for you02:37
HappyFoolHeimdall: try 'lsmod|grep slamr'02:37
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HeimdallHappyFool : shutting down samrtlink modem driver normmallu, loading ALSA modem driver into kernel... done. Starting smartlnk modem driver for : hw:0. creating /dev/modem smylink, pointing to /dev/ttySL0.02:37
hondjejwark: then, your computer will automatically update itself when bug fixes come out02:37
IRCmad_alfredhi everyone! i need some advice for monitor res settings...02:37
hondjeTotally one of the great perks of most linux distros, and not emphasised enough IMHO to newbies :(02:38
HappyFoolHeimdall: and ls -l /dev/modem shows?02:38
HeimdallHappyFool : slamr 376004 002:38
HappyFoolHeimdall: good stuff02:38
hondjeMez: You were the one talking about the newbie rescue service, right?02:38
rob^where is the alsa configuration wiki?02:38
Heimdallls -l /dev/modem :02:38
thoreauputichondje: in fact, windows refugees have trouble understanding the concept, it seems02:38
jwarkoh, now i see.... thanks hondje!02:38
hondjejwark: play with it, you'll grow addicted I promise :)02:39
jwarkyou, guys rock! thanks for the help02:39
IRCmad_alfredno really, i've got a radeon 9800 with two monitors connected02:39
rob^!alsa02:39
uboturob^: I don't know02:39
rob^dam02:39
hondjethoreauputic: and it's made worse by how it's underempasized, I think02:39
thoreauputicjwark: the search function is particularly useful02:39
thoreauputichondje: agreed02:39
HeimdallHappyFool : lrwxrwxrwx l root root 6 2005-06-18 14:35 /dev/modem -> ttySL002:39
hondjeI'd like to see it more 'in your face', since it's such a different concept for newbies02:39
HappyFoolHeimdall: ok, it looks like it might be working02:39
Heimdalloki02:40
Heimdallso ?02:40
Heimdallnow I have nothing more to do ?02:40
HappyFoolHeimdall: well, let's see if we can test it02:40
Heimdallat least the driver works02:40
Heimdallok02:40
HappyFoolHeimdall: try in your home directory typing 'wvdialconf wvdial.conf' and see what happens02:40
thoreauputichondje: I'm hoping there will be a "first run" popup with some info for Breezy, for those reasons02:40
HappyFoolHeimdall: you might need to sudo that, but try it without first02:40
Heimdallok02:41
kbrooksyou know what's strange?02:41
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hondjethoreauputic: Oh, yeah....I was thinking making the 'add-remove programs' thing more comprehensive, get their feet wet02:41
HeimdallHappyFool : I don't need sudo02:41
nexuslabIneed help people .I installed kubuntu...without dhcp...so without net repositories...then after installation...when i try to do "sudo mycommand" i get this error:02:41
nexuslabsudo: unable to lookup desktop(my host name...) via gethostbyname()02:41
nexuslabPassword : postdrop: unable to look up public/pickup:no such file or directory02:41
hondjehell, it took me until like 2003 until I started using package managers, probably because I started on mdk and urpmi sucked bad at the time.....02:41
HeimdallHappyFool : it writes a lot of stuff02:41
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hondjekbrooks: what's strange?02:42
HappyFoolHeimdall: does it look like good or bad news?02:42
thoreauputichondje: at least it has an "advanced" button that opens synaptic: but then, most new users are scred of "advanced" buttons...02:42
HeimdallHappyFool : everything seems to be OK02:42
thoreauputic*scared02:42
HappyFoolHeimdall: yay02:42
Kamping_Kaisernexuslab, have you rebooted the box?02:42
HeimdallHappyFool : as it is written on each end line02:42
kbrookshondje, nothing :P02:42
hondjethoreauputic: well, some probably are, but I think most newbies are pretty computer saavy w/ windows and like to press buttons like 'advanced', it tempts them :)02:42
hondjekbrooks: that was strange :p02:42
HeimdallHappyFool : and at the end : "found a modem on /dev/ttySL0"02:42
HappyFoolHeimdall: ok, that sounds promising02:43
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hondjethough I get the whole 'bring in the real newbies' idea02:43
thoreauputichondje: I guess most people who install an OS are not really "newbies"02:43
HeimdallHappyFool : ok so looks like it was the good driver for the modem right ?02:43
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HappyFoolHeimdall: yeah, looks like it's a go02:43
hondjethoreauputic: yeah, though if in some crazy land ubuntu gets OEM'd, that'd be different02:43
HappyFoolHeimdall: you need to setup ppp now (i.e., dial-up settings)02:43
HeimdallHappyFool : ok so now I go to SSYTEM->ADMINISTRATION->NETWORK02:43
HappyFoolHeimdall: try first the gnome ppp thing. yeah, there exactly02:44
quidoffhow do I install the new kernel 2.6.12? I downloaded it from http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.12.tar.bz202:44
hondjethoreauputic: getting synaptic in their faces w/ a clearer explaination of what it is, and my 'places' menu bug I think would be good ideas02:44
thoreauputichondje: ah, but then there would no doubt be an OEM instruction wizard too02:44
nexuslabKamping_Kaiser yes02:44
hondjethoreauputic: oh yeah, no doubt02:44
HeimdallHappyFool :: I wrote the parameters already02:44
HappyFoolHeimdall: at some point you'll need a phone line to test this with ;)02:44
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HappyFoolHeimdall: ok02:44
Heimdallin connexion per modem02:44
HeimdallBUT02:44
bionicCan anyone help so i can play sound from more than one sound source at the same time? I've done the things on http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly but that didnt fix it. Thanks. I actually managed to to get xmms and mplayer to run at the same time, that was when i changed the output plugin in xmms to alsa. But what do i do with sources that use OSS? anyway to force them?02:44
HappyFoolbut?02:44
Tronexhi there02:44
Heimdallbut02:44
Heimdalljust before lunch02:45
Kamping_Kaisernexus lab, thats usualy a result of the hostnames not matching.02:45
HeimdallI tried "auto detect" the modem02:45
Tronexdoes anyone of you happen to have a notebook with an ati rage mobility chipset ?02:45
Heimdalland it found nothing02:45
Heimdalllet me try another time02:45
nexuslabKamping_Kaiser more times...same error...may it depends on the fact i have no lan card installed...better...i have but it doesn't recognize it..is a 3c940 gigabit lancard02:45
hondjethoreauputic: I'd also like to see a thing where if you're in nautilus, and you have a file you don't have permission on, and you try to delete it, it pops up a gksudo box to let you do it02:45
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hondjeOr to move it, or change permissions....chmod seems scary to all newbies02:46
nexuslabbut if i'm not root...i cant install  the card!!!02:46
HappyFoolHeimdall: the phone line might have to be plugged in02:46
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thoreauputichondje: yes, that should happen: but with a warning/question I feel02:46
HeimdallHappyFool : proprieties -> modem-> auto-detect ok ?02:46
HappyFoolHeimdall: and try pointing it to /dev/ttySL0 instead of /dev/modem, though that shouldn't matter02:46
hondjethoreauputic: hrm, you can change the title w/ gksudo02:46
raavi02Hello everybody. I have specific problem in regard to detect the network printer.02:46
HappyFoolHeimdall: ag, i wouldn't bother with that02:46
thoreauputichondje: true02:46
HappyFoolHeimdall: just tell it to use /dev/modem02:46
Kamping_Kaisernexuslab, so you cant get root access?02:46
HeimdallHappyFool : ok wait02:46
thoreauputichondje: I guess it a Zenity box?02:46
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hondjezenity?02:47
raavi02I have installed ubuntu locally, barring the network installation, and don't know how to use the network printer.02:47
HeimdallHappyFool : nw the phone line isn't on my laptop... in order to talk to you02:47
raavi02can any body help me.02:47
HeimdallHappyFool : I'll try to detect the modem without, it normally should be okay02:47
HappyFoolHeimdall: i figured as much ;)02:47
thoreauputichondje: zenity is like xdialog/kdialog - graphical front ends for scripts02:47
hondjehrm, --title doesn't do it right02:47
HeimdallHappyFool : ok, can I try to detect the port whitout type anything ?02:48
hondjethoreauputic: oh, I must find it, I LOVE kdialog02:48
HeimdallI mean nor /dev/modem nor anything02:48
HappyFoolHeimdall: let me see if i can access that dialog with shutting down my connection...02:48
Tronexanyone tried to get dri working with x.org for ati rage mobility ?02:48
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Heimdallhum02:48
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raavi02 I have installed ubuntu locally, barring the network installation, and don't know how to use the network printer. Can anybody help how to setup.02:48
obrienwhat happened to msttcorefonts package ?02:48
HappyFoolif i disappear suddenly you'll know why ;)02:48
HeimdallHappyFool : ok in the same time I try on my side02:49
thoreauputicobrien: nothing - it's in the multiverse repository02:49
Mezhmm02:49
HappyFoolHeimdall: just type in /dev/modem for 'Modem port'02:49
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HappyFoolHeimdall: don't use the autodetect button02:49
Mezwhats a good way on the command line to quickly just replace new lines from an output with spaces02:49
nexuslabKamping_Kaiser exactly02:49
HeimdallHappyFool :02:49
nexuslabi cant be root02:49
hondjethoreauputic: ah, gksu -sudo-mode --message "Stuff" --icon /path/to/scary/icon maybe02:49
HeimdallI typed nothing, pressed the button02:49
Heimdalland it wrote me /dev/modem02:49
HappyFoolHeimdall: and?02:49
HappyFoolHeimdall: ok, that's good02:50
raavi02 I have installed ubuntu locally, barring the network installation, and don't know how to use the network printer. Can anybody help how to setup.02:50
Heimdallit looks good yeah02:50
HappyFoolHeimdall: i couldn't get it to find my winmodem02:50
Kamping_Kaisernexuslab, have you tried sudo -s?02:50
obrienthoreauputic, I have multiverse in my sources.list, but it says: Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:50
ompaulto bravely go where others are all the time ... apt-get install kde02:50
HappyFoolHeimdall: now setup the phone number, user/password options and try it out02:50
thoreauputichondje: scary_icon=billgates.png ;-)02:50
HeimdallHappyFool : ok, now how can I test ?02:50
hondjethoreauputic: hehe02:50
Riddellompaul: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  is usually more suitable02:50
HappyFoolHeimdall: only one way really ;) dial-up02:50
HeimdallHappyFool : I've already done that; but how to connect ?02:50
Heimdallsorry, I'm fool, but I don't see the button to dial up02:51
ompaulRiddell, now there is a thought02:51
HappyFoolHeimdall: go back to the first dialog box ('Network settings') and 'activate' the interface02:51
Kamping_Kaisernexuslab, if you "cat /etc/hostname" and "head /etc/hosts" does "hosts" have your hostname on one of hte top few rows?02:51
HappyFoolHeimdall: button just below properties02:51
Heimdalloh I've done this many times02:51
HappyFoolHeimdall: there's also a gnome applet you can use02:51
Heimdalland as it did nothing I thought it was not that02:51
Heimdalllets try now....02:51
thoreauputicobrien: apt-cache show msttcorefonts returns a result here, and I installed them without issues02:52
HappyFoolHeimdall: well, if sl-modem-modules wasn't installed, it wouldn't work before02:52
lie[hailz, when creating partitions (for instance, /home,swap,/) , is the order important?02:52
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HeimdallHappyFool : well... I have to disconnect ti test02:52
thoreauputicobrien: check your sources.list and run apt-get update maybe?02:52
HappyFoolHeimdall: yip02:52
Heimdallbut if it work, I'll see you right now with my ubuntu ;)02:52
HappyFoolHeimdall: one moment02:52
Heimdallbut I'm quite pessimist :)02:52
nexuslabKamping_Kaiser i checked them...my host name miss in the files02:52
Heimdallyes ?02:53
obrienthoreauputic, gah, i saw multiverse in my backports section, sorry :)D I have it now02:53
HappyFoolHeimdall: you can look in /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog for pppd messages02:53
nexuslabbut i can't modify them if i'm not root!!02:53
nexuslab:|02:53
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hondjethoreauputic: yeah, zenity is the way to go, gksu sucks too :)02:53
Heimdallok02:53
HappyFoolHeimdall: might be useful if something goes wrong (e.g., wrong password or something)02:53
thoreauputicobrien: my advice FWIW is not to use backports02:53
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HappyFoolHeimdall: otherwise, good luck02:53
Heimdallok I note02:53
amir__anyone having problems with MSN on kopete in hoary?02:53
hondjethoreauputic: I heard backports is an official project now, what does that imply for the 'bad jdong!' crowd?02:53
HappyFoolhondje: really?02:54
Heimdallok, brb !!!!!!!!02:54
waterbeetlehow do I set up the Java Runtime Environment properly?02:54
hondjeHappyFool: that's what I read somewhere, let me see if I can't prove it02:54
HappyFoolHeimdall: hopefully in ubuntu ;)02:54
hondje!java02:54
thoreauputichondje: glad to hear it's official - hope it gets more reliable02:54
ubotu[java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java02:54
TronexSo, I take it, noone of you ever recompiled the kernel to get dri working with an ati card?02:54
waterbeetlethanks02:54
hondjethoreauputic: yeah, it wouldn't be hard either...well, hard skill wise, but the 'what's wrong's are easy to see02:54
HappyFoolhondje: i believe you ;) sounds like good news. maybe they'll co-ordinate better with ubuntu proper02:55
hondjelike 'once you have all the build-deps, if you can't get the rest just use -d and ignore deps!'02:55
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HappyFoolhondje: but what about legal issues? doesn't backports have some grey-area software ? (w32codecs etc.)02:55
hondjeHappyFool: I'm just throwing what I read, man, I dunno about that02:55
hondjeI should make hondje's repos public...02:55
HappyFoolhondje: ok, just curious02:55
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hondjeI host it from .nl, so nyaa nyaa, and my pkgs are fairly decent IMHO02:56
rob^is there a guide/wiki on enabling alsa somewhere?02:56
onkarshindeCan anybody help me playing movies using totem?02:56
hondjethe ubuntu marillat...nah, too much bandwidth/time for me :-(02:56
onkarshindeDo i need to install any extra library?02:56
HappyFool!Restricted02:56
uboturumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:56
HappyFoolonkarshinde: take a look at the url ubotu posted; has some instructions02:57
hondjeHappyFool: I lied, sir02:57
hondjethoreauputic, too...I just checked the backports page, still unofficial02:58
HappyFoolhondje: ah well02:58
thoreauputichondje: right02:58
HappyFoolhondje: what's the page?02:58
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HappyFoolurl, i mean02:58
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hondjehttp://backports.ubuntuforums.org/02:58
Heimdall_HappyFool : back02:58
HappyFoolHeimdall: success?02:58
Heimdall_no02:59
HappyFooldoh02:59
Heimdall_yes :(02:59
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Heimdall_as always02:59
Heimdall_it says that ppp0 is active02:59
Heimdall_but does nothing02:59
internet10zijn er hier meiskes  die op zoek zijn naar een lekkere date02:59
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vHintswenhi03:00
Heimdall_HappyFool : I'm looking at the log... NO DIALTONE03:00
quidoffhi03:00
quidoffdies anyone have the new kernel installed?03:00
Heimdall_timeout set to 75 seconds03:00
quidoffif so, how?03:00
Heimdall_expect (CONNECT)03:00
Heimdall_^M03:00
hondjeinternet10: #ubuntu-nl03:00
vHintsweni've got a problem, on my other computer i installed ubuntu and my mouse isn't working, it also isn't responding to commands03:00
Heimdall_AT&FHOL2^M^M03:00
Heimdall_NO DIALTONE03:00
Heimdall_failed03:01
HappyFoolHeimdall: hmm. the modem works under windows, right? and the line was properly plugged in?03:01
hondjeHappyFool, thoreauputic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4029103:01
mindspininternet 10 but even there are no girls03:01
Heimdall_yes03:01
hondje'As of June 2005, we are an official Ubuntu project, so we are acknowledged by the developers. Therefore, the developers won't have issues with Backports users'03:01
HappyFoolhondje: my dutch isn't that good, but i get the idea that wasn't an ubuntu question ;)03:01
Heimdall_HappyFool : last night when I was talking to you it was it, under win03:01
mindspintwasnt03:01
hondjeHappyFool: probably not, I see dutch and just whip out the -nl03:01
hondjebefore my dutch nick gets me hit :)03:02
Heimdall_and even this morning,so it works properly with windows03:02
HappyFoolHeimdall: hrm03:02
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vHintsweno.o03:02
Heimdall_I don't understand too...03:02
Heimdall_wy does it saiy that ppp0 is active03:02
Heimdall_if it does not work03:03
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vHintswenomg03:03
HeimdallI don't hear the 'clic' of the modem03:03
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vHintsweni'm never gonna get it fixed03:03
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hondjehttp://www.novell.com/products/desktop/decalkit.html03:04
hondjehehe, Novell is funny... "Microsoft employees should indicate this clearly in order to receive priority processing"03:05
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kbrooksbbl03:05
HappyFoolHeimdall: i'm stumped03:05
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ForgeXhello... what packages do I need to play .wmv and .asf files? win32 codecs methinks but it's not im my synaptic manager03:06
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hondjeForgeX: mind if I msg you?03:07
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JameyI have just installed Ubuntu (5.0.4) on my main machine. It has a 15in Samsung TFT; when the login prompt is supposed to appear, I get a garbled screen with the cursor clearly visible. Any ideas? Many thanks03:07
ForgeXhondje: no go ahead03:07
HappyFoolHeimdall: i really don't think it'll help, but you could try rebooting03:07
thoreauputic!restricted03:08
uboturestricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:08
HappyFoolHeimdall: also, regaring the 'click' -- you should hear it even if there's no line plugged in, so it's one way to check without disconnecting this pc03:08
cianci10Hi, I installed Apache Web Server and PHP, they both work great. My question is how do i install and configue MySQL?03:08
thoreauputicForgeX: read the bot's URL above03:08
Jameycianci10cianci1003:08
mindspinapt-get install mysql-server03:08
Jameycianci10, have you looked in the package manager?03:08
HeimdallHappyFool : I hear nothing03:09
Jameyahh, there you go ^^03:09
HappyFoolcianci10: mysql is also available via synaptic (or whatever you used to install apache)03:09
cianci10ok, but then how do i configure mysql with apache?03:09
Jameycan anyone help me with my TFT problem? ^_^03:09
Jameyit will start the daemon automatically03:09
ForgeXthorapeutic: ok03:09
HappyFoolcianci10: i think there are php-mysql modules03:09
HeimdallHappyFool : could it be another error03:09
Jameyand you just connect via a PHP script to the localhost server03:09
HeimdallHappyFool : another thing bad configured03:09
HappyFoolHeimdall: unfortunately, i'm not sure how to test this03:09
HeimdallHappyFool : cause now it detects the modem well..03:09
cianci10HappyFool, what do u mean?03:10
HappyFoolHeimdall: you have the kernel module loaded, and the daemon running, and yes, the modem is detected03:10
Heimdallso if it can't dial up it has to be something else03:10
cianci10oh, never mind03:10
cianci10i get it03:10
Jameycan someone help me?03:10
cianci10sure, what do u need, Jamey?03:10
JameyI have just installed Ubuntu (5.0.4) on my main machine. It has a 15in Samsung TFT; when the login prompt is supposed to appear, I get a garbled screen with the cursor clearly visible. Any ideas? Many thanks03:10
HappyFoolcianci10: i see a php4-mysql package03:11
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cianci10what is the command to get that, HappyFool?03:11
HeimdallHappyFool : the peripheric is ppp0 right ?03:11
Jameytry "apt-cache search mysql"03:11
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HappyFoolcianci10: 'sudo aptitude install php4-mysql'03:11
cianci10Jamey, that once happend to me, coincidentaly, i just rebooted and everything was fine.03:11
HappyFoolcianci10: i recommend synaptic, however: System -> Administration -> Synaptic03:11
cianci10ok, thank you03:11
Jameyciancil0, I'll try that thanks03:11
HappyFoolHeimdall: the interface is called ppp003:12
HeimdallHappyFool : in the properties when I am in 'general' I have to check 'this peripheric is configured' right ? and fill the rest03:12
onkarshindeIs there any voice recognition program for Ubuntu?03:12
HappyFoolHeimdall: oh, right03:12
Jameytry doing an "apt-cache search voice", onkarshinde03:12
HeimdallHappyFool : so I am doing...03:12
cianci10onkarshinde, I was wondering the same thing03:12
Jameyonkarshinde03:12
Jameyor do a searhc in the package manager03:12
Jamey*search03:13
HappyFoolHeimdall: yes, it's ppp0 in that dialog03:13
HeimdallHappyFool : phone number : I put it03:13
HeimdallHappyFool : prefix : I don't know... I think there is no one03:13
HappyFoolHeimdall: the problem is more likely with the driver, since you have 'NO DIALTONE'03:13
Jameyciancil0: I've still got the same problem. It shows a garbled screen which I can only presume is the login GUI (I heard the sound effect, so it probably is)03:13
HeimdallHappyFool : user and pwd, I put it03:14
HappyFoolHeimdall: these details are not yet testable03:14
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HeimdallHappyFool : ah you think ?03:14
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HappyFoolHeimdall: yeah, you said you don't hear the 'click' (i presume you do hear such a click in windows?)03:14
Heimdallyes03:14
HappyFoolHeimdall: and pppd reports 'NO DIALTONE', so the problem is at a deeper level03:14
Heimdalland the composition of the phone number03:14
orjanIf I do a command in the terminal, should I see that Ubuntu doing the command. When i type "sudo cp /etc/apt/sources..." i prompt for the root password and after that Im on a new blank line. Have Ubuntu downloaded the file whitch I supposed I should?03:14
HappyFoolHeimdall: does the computer still think the ppp interface is up?03:15
Heimdallhum03:15
JameyI am having problems: after a normal install of Ubuntu 5.0.4, my TFT display is garbled when it reaches the logon GUI. I think it may be something to do with the resolution and/or refresh rate. Anybody?03:15
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Heimdallno03:15
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Heimdall'is not active'03:16
ivanoxanyone inhere using winetools!? I got this strange problem when installing internetexplorer, the installation start and all but then just stops at 47%03:16
vHintsweni've got a problem, on my other computer i installed ubuntu and my mouse isn't working, it also isn't responding to commands03:16
JameyCan somebody please reply to me? Thanks03:16
HeimdallHappyFool : right under the 'connexion per modem' there is something03:16
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HappyFoolHeimdall: ah-ha?03:17
Heimdallyou don't have this on your ubuntu ?03:17
HappyFooli don't have it in french ;)03:17
hondjeJamey: can you do stuff from a console? ctrl-alt-f1?03:17
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HeimdallHappyFool : yeah that's why I'm tring to translate it :-D03:17
HappyFoolI have 'Modem connection: The interface ppp0 is active'03:17
onkarshindeJamey: How does I know exactly which package to install for voic recognition? Is speex one of them?03:17
Heimdallk03:17
Heimdallright under it03:17
Heimdallinternet connexio n?03:18
Jameyonkarshinde, google the package name03:18
HappyFoolhmm03:18
Heimdallwith a network card ?03:18
HappyFooli don't have that03:18
vHintswenomg can anyone help me or am i just wasiting more time here03:18
thoreauputicJamey: try running ` sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg `03:18
HappyFooli have 'Ethernet connection'03:18
Heimdallinterface eth003:18
vHintsweni tried b4 and no1 could help03:18
Jameyhondje: I don't get any response with Ctrl + Alt + Fx (whatever number)03:18
HappyFoolHeimdall: that's for your network card -- does the laptop have a builtin network card?03:18
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Jameythoreauputic: how do I get to the shell?03:18
Jameyit books straight into the X logon screen03:18
thoreauputicJamey: indeed :/03:18
HeimdallHappyFool : ok, yes it has one03:18
hondjeJamey: that's not a good sign, stays the same?03:18
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Jamey*loads03:18
cianci10does anyone know what this means: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.03:18
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HeimdallHappyFool : one that works well03:19
thoreauputicJamey: do you know how to chroot from a live CD ?03:19
HappyFoolHeimdall: that's what thats for03:19
zerokillsanyone know why my sound doesnt work in media players?03:19
JameyI don't have a live CD, do I?03:19
HeimdallHappyFool : but I didn't told you all03:19
cianci10does anyone know what this means: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.03:19
HappyFoolheh03:19
Heimdall'cause I thought it wans't important.. but I have doubts now03:19
Jameyciancil0: tried running what it says?03:19
greppercianci10: I"m betting it wants you to run "dpkg --configure -a"03:19
JameyI am having problems: after a normal install of Ubuntu 5.0.4, my TFT display is garbled when it reaches the logon GUI. I think it may be something to do with the resolution and/or refresh rate. Anybody?03:19
Heimdallsince we don't..03:19
Jameydamn sorry03:19
hondjethoreauputic: OT, but does the ubuntu liveCD have rescue type pkgs on it?03:19
HappyFoolHeimdall: ok...03:19
vHintsweni've got a problem, on my other computer i installed ubuntu and my mouse isn't working, it also isn't responding to commands03:19
HeimdallHappyFool : during installation, the configuration of the network failed03:19
thoreauputicJamey: no need to repeat, BTW03:19
HeimdallDHCP problem03:20
cianci10that was a no brainer, lol03:20
cianci10sorry about that03:20
HeimdallI checked : configure later03:20
Jameysorry thore.. I accidentally pasted it again instead of your name :/03:20
thoreauputichondje: hmm - I guess just standard shell stuff03:20
HeimdallHappyFool : could it be important ?03:20
Jameyhow do I chroot a live CD?03:20
Jameyor just get it into Bash without booting X?03:20
vHintswen i tried re-installing ubuntu and it still giving me the same problem!03:20
JameyI just need to configure X, right?03:20
HappyFoolHeimdall: i doubt it03:20
thoreauputicJamey: do you have the Ubuntu live CD ?03:20
thoreauputicor similar?03:21
Jameyno I haev the install CD03:21
HappyFoolHeimdall: your network card wasn't plugged in at the time, was it?03:21
HeimdallHappyFool : ok, thats I was thinking too...03:21
JameyThoreauputic: that's different, right?03:21
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HeimdallHappyFool : yes it was03:21
hondjeJamey: yeah, you up for a large download?03:21
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thoreauputicJamey: you may be able to boot the install CD with "rescue" to get a shell03:21
Jameynot really hondje I'm sure I must be able to prevent it booting into X, no?03:21
ivanoxcmon, anyone that installed winecvs with winetools, how much time did it take to install internetexplorer for you?03:21
Jameythanks much appreciated03:21
thoreauputicJamey: I haven't tried it personally03:21
hondjeJamey: oh, yeah, never thunk of that03:22
JameyThoreauputic: can't I just "pause" it before it loads startx??03:22
hondjecrap, I wish I rebooted more03:22
hondjeis there an 'interactive mode' like RH/MDK have?03:22
thoreauputicJamey: worth a try I guess - Ctrl-C or something03:22
Jameyok thanks03:22
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HeimdallHappyFool : it begins to be boring :)03:22
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HeimdallHappyFool : I think we'll never succed03:23
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vHintswenOMG03:23
thoreauputicJamey: probably when it says "starting gdm"03:23
HappyFoolHeimdall: well, i'm out of ideas, i'm afraid03:23
Heimdall:/03:23
HappyFoolHeimdall: one very last thing you could try doing is rebooting03:23
HappyFoolHeimdall: and trying again03:23
hondjethoreauputic: is there a point when it hits the init scripts it offers you a chance to go into 'interactive' mode?03:23
JameyThoreauputic: it worked! I'm in Bash. Thanks!03:23
HeimdallHappyFool : yes I'll do that03:24
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JameyThoreauputic: Now how do I configure X... somewhere in /etc I'm guessing?!03:24
thoreauputichondje: I really don't know - I reboot only for new kernels :/03:24
HappyFoolHeimdall: but that's clutching at straws03:24
HeimdallHappyFool : you know what, I'll soon have another modem !!!03:24
HappyFoolHeimdall: ah-ha?03:24
thoreauputicJamey: no03:24
HappyFoolHeimdall: what sort?03:24
hondjethoreauputic: same, in theory03:24
JameyThoreauputic: oh where then?03:24
hondjeubuntu is buggy enough I've done it a bit more than that03:24
Heimdallyes,adsl :)03:24
thoreauputicJamey: run ` sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg `03:24
chadusing ubuntu on my notebook.. seems to work great except for a few issues... first off.. when i close the laptop cover, x suspends and doesn't restart when I re-open it.. anyone know what causes this or how to fix it?03:24
vHintsweni've got a problem, on my other computer i installed ubuntu and my mouse isn't working, it also isn't responding to commands03:24
Heimdall'freebox' I think obviously you don't know as it is a french stuff03:24
HappyFoolHeimdall: ah, i'm jealous!03:24
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HeimdallHappyFool : yes, 8Mb03:25
JameyThoreauputic: Now how do I configure X... somewhere in /etc I'm guessing?!Thoreauputic:okay but will that detect my resolution/refresh rate when reconfig'ing03:25
HappyFoolwow03:25
HappyFoolHeimdall: nice03:25
Heimdallhehe !=03:25
Heimdallyes03:25
Jameydamn it, I did it again :/03:25
manitoba98xpUm, when I'm updating with the Ubuntu Update Manager, what does "NOT AUTHENTICATED" mean.03:25
Jameystupid TinyIRC client :@03:25
Heimdallit should arrive next week03:25
HappyFoolHeimdall: hopefully that'll work with ubuntu03:25
manitoba98xpInstead of Installed, it said "NOT AUTHENTICATED" for my kernel update.03:25
FireCatCan anyyone tell me how to redetect a sound card03:26
thoreauputicJamey: choose the simple options, and maybe if it doesn't work, try it with the vesa driver (you can do it again any time)03:26
HeimdallHappyFool : a friend of mine told me it was even harder to install03:26
HappyFoolmanitoba98xp: do you have non-ubuntu repositories ?03:26
HeimdallHappyFool :: oh you think ?03:26
HappyFoolHeimdall: i don't know, i've never done it03:26
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manitoba98xpHold on.03:26
HeimdallHappyFool : :)03:26
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hondjeJamey: got pen/paper?03:26
HeimdallHappyFool : I'm looking for what kind of modem it is03:26
manitoba98xpNo, everything has "ubuntu.com" in the domain name.03:26
mikedoes anyone know how to get phpMyAdmim?03:26
vHintsweni've got a problem, on my other computer i installed ubuntu and my mouse isn't working, it also isn't responding to commands03:27
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hondjeJamey: if you don't mind, I can msg you useful crap03:27
HappyFoolmanitoba98xp: hmm. odd03:27
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Jameyhondje: please do03:27
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mikedoes anyone know how to get phpMyAdmin?03:27
roberto_ciao ragazzi03:27
vHintsweni've got a problem, on my other computer i installed ubuntu and my mouse isn't working, it also isn't responding to commands03:27
manitoba98xpI did it anyways, and it doesn't seem damaging, but I backed up my kernel, sources, etc. just in case.03:27
Fabianhi, I'm trying to reach ftp://ftp.astron.com/pub/file/ to download File 4.10 but I can't reach that server. Does anybody know where else to get it?03:27
HappyFoolmanitoba98xp: if you want to fix this, can you paste the output of 'apt-key list' here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:27
HeimdallHappyFool : tis is it : http://support.free.fr/maj/freebox_V3-V4_ppp.pdf03:28
roberto_speak italian03:28
Heimdallthis*03:28
vHintswenCIAO!03:28
bob2Fabian: that's the "file" command?03:28
mikehow do i install phpmyadmin?03:28
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Varangerhi03:28
roberto_i'm not speak english03:28
vHintsweni've got a problem, on my other computer i installed ubuntu and my mouse isn't working, it also isn't responding to commands03:28
Fabianbob2 dunno....03:28
Varangerhola roberto_03:28
mindspinmike sudo synaptic03:28
roberto_ciao03:28
bob2Fabian: so why are you trying to download it if you don't know what it is?03:28
bob2roberto_: #ubuntu-it03:28
mindspinroberto #ubuntu-it maybe?03:28
mikeciao raberto_ i am from italy03:29
roberto_ciao mike03:29
manitoba98xphttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/11703:29
Fabianbob2, I'm quiet new to linux, but I'm trying to build a lfs system. And it sais, I need that package03:29
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VarangerI have installed kernel 2.6.11 and I am having problems because it breezes after the login screen03:29
roberto_ la prima volta che chatto03:29
Fabianbob2, but yes, it is the file command03:29
bob2Fabian: why are you using LFS then?03:29
Varangers/breezes/freezes03:29
HappyFoolHeimdall: there's not much on dsl on the wiki... hmm03:29
bob2Fabian: also, #lfs would be the place to ask03:29
roberto_ed  la prima volta che uso linux03:29
Fabianbob2, because I want to!03:30
bob2Varanger: 2.6.11 in hoary is known to not work03:30
Fabianalright, I'll ask there03:30
mikethank you mindspin for the advice03:30
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HeimdallHappyFool :/ :)03:30
mikei found it in Synaptic03:30
vHintsweni've got a problem, on my other computer i installed ubuntu and my mouse isn't working, it also isn't responding to commands03:30
mindspinFabian are you sure it's the right way to start with lfs?03:30
mikeg2g03:30
Varangerbob2: thanks for the answer!03:30
HappyFoolmanitoba98xp: looks the same as mine... sorry, i'm not sure what the issue is03:30
bob2Varanger: just use 2.6.1003:30
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HappyFoolmanitoba98xp: what kernel update was it ? what version, i mean?03:30
bob2vHintswen: you're just confusing everyone by claiming things like "isn't responding to commands", which is clearly untrue03:31
Hunchbackhey people, i have a question: it's seems like i don't have portage installed... where can i download it from?03:31
mindspinmike synaptic is your friend when it comes tu installing/upgrading03:31
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vHintswenit's true!03:31
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roberto_help me please: my linux don't see partitions ntfs. How to do? thanks03:31
bob2Hunchback: I'm not sure if that's a lame troll or not, but Ubuntu obviously doesn't use portage.03:31
vHintswenwhen i type a command nothing happens03:31
bob2roberto_: #ubuntu-it03:31
bob2vHintswen: really? what about when you run 'vim'?03:31
vHintswen1 sec i try03:31
Fabianmindspin, why not? I didn't start with lfs! I had linux some times before and using ubuntu at the moment03:32
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JDigitalhey guys how do I install im-ja03:32
mindspinFabian you said you are a newbie03:32
FireCatCan anyone tell me how to redetect a sound card? I just installed a new one. I'd rather not reinstall for it, but reinstallation at this point might be a good option03:32
HappyFoolroberto_: take a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions03:32
HappyFoolHeimdall: i'm sure there are people here using DSL with ubuntu03:33
Hunchbackbob2: i read that the command emerge is based on portage...03:33
vHintswennothing happens03:33
HappyFoolHeimdall: when you get the modem, maybe you can ask more03:33
Hunchbackso i tought i should have portage03:33
bob2Hunchback: #gentoo03:33
vHintswenbob2 can i pm you?03:33
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bob2Hunchback: ubuntu has nothing to do with emerge or portage03:33
Hunchbackomh03:33
HappyFoolHunchback: we don't use emerge either ;) we use apt03:33
bob2vHintswen: why?03:33
mindspinHeimdall I use dsl, but via a woody router ;-)03:33
vHintswento explain03:33
HeimdallHappyFool : yeah sure...03:33
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bob2vHintswen: what's your native language?03:34
vHintswenenglish03:34
Fabianmindspin, not THAT much of a newbie.... I'm no pro03:34
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bob2vHintswen: just explain in here03:34
Heimdallmindspin : a friend of mine do it so.. but with a debian03:34
vHintswenconfusing when i get back looking for what you said03:34
vHintswenfine i explain here then...03:34
mindspinHeimdall I have no problems with it, but strange experiences with my provider03:35
HeimdallHappyFool : I just reboot.. does not work ... :/03:35
HappyFoolHeimdall: ok. sorry, i'm out of ideas03:35
Heimdallmindspin : where are u from ?03:35
mindspinthey do not support all kinds of modems in several areas...03:35
mindspingermany03:35
vHintsweni turn computer on and wait for ogin screen, (mouse not working) i press ctrl+alt+f1 to go to command thing and is says 'ubuntu login:' i enter my username and press enter right?03:35
HeimdallHappyFool : forget it.... it was nice I learnt many things ;)03:35
bob2vHintswen: right03:35
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HappyFoolHeimdall: ok03:36
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vHintswenthen on the next line should it say 'ubuntu password:'03:36
HappyFoolHeimdall: at least you got past the brown screen of death03:36
ivanoxlol03:36
HeimdallHappyFool : since I'll have my other modem/connexion soon, it is not so hard to stay with windows...03:36
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HeimdallHappyFool : yeah !03:36
ivanoxit's always hard to stay with windows =(03:36
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HeimdallHappyFool : but i comparaison this was a easy pb03:36
Lyesaineri just wanted to install GStreamer, but apt fails to fetch it, even when i add the deb server from http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/download/03:36
Lyesainerany ideas how to get it?03:36
HappyFoolLyesainer: afaik, gstreamer comes with ubuntu03:37
vHintswen???03:37
ivanoxso anyone in here using winetools?!03:37
HappyFoolLyesainer: or at least, apt-cache search gstreamer reveals a host of matches03:37
Lyesainerwell03:37
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Lyesainerthe Rhythmbox can't find any plugins03:37
FireCatIndeed gstreamer comes with ubuntu, although you need the universe packages to get all the plugins03:37
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bob2vHintswen: you haven't explained your problem yet03:37
hondjesshd not default? :(03:37
HappyFoolLyesainer: take a look here for MP3: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:37
vHintswenwell tell me shuld it say 'ubuntu password:'03:38
ivanoxyes it should03:38
vHintswenwell there's the first problem, it doesn't03:38
LyesainerFireCat: you mean to uncomment the universe server in soruces.list ?03:38
HeimdallHappyFool : but I'm sure i'll have many many probelms in the future... configuring things like usb devices, and NETWORK03:38
Heimdall;)03:38
ivanoxwhat does it say?03:38
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vHintswennothng, it just gives me a blank line03:38
HappyFoolHeimdall: heh03:38
ivanoxvHintswen, which ver u got?03:39
mindspinHeimdal network should be easy03:39
vHintswen503:39
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HappyFoolHeimdall: ethernet devices are usually ok. wireless can be a pain, from what i've seen here03:39
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vHintswen5.04 i think...03:39
mindspinok, wireless...03:39
ivanoxok03:39
HappyFoolHeimdall: and usb is also usually ok03:39
ivanoxand u got a normal i386 system?03:39
vHintswenjust downloaded it a few days ago03:39
vHintswenno i got a abnormal amd system03:39
HappyFoolHeimdall: depending on what sort of device it is, anyway03:39
HeimdallHappyFool : you probably understand that I don't believe someone who's telling me that one thing is usally ok ;)03:39
ivanox64bits?03:39
vHintswenno03:40
vHintswen3203:40
HappyFoolHeimdall: heh03:40
HappyFoolHeimdall: only real problem i've had is with my winmodem03:40
HeimdallHappyFool : since with my case, there are always pbs :-D03:40
ivanoxbut u took the i386 installer right?03:40
vHintswenyeah03:40
HappyFoolHeimdall: my usb memory stick and bluetooth dongle work out of the box03:40
Lyesainerdoes xmms use it's own libraries to decode mp3 then?03:40
ivanoxwhen u reboot do u get any graphic interface?03:40
vHintswenyes03:40
HeimdallHappyFool : you have a Mac ?03:40
ivanoxcan u log in on it?03:40
vHintswenyes03:41
roberto_help me please: i'm newbe - my ubuntu don't see partitions ntfs - haw to do?03:41
HappyFoolLyesainer: i'm not sure what the xmms plugin for mp3 is -- try xmms-mad03:41
HappyFoolHeimdall: nope. never even seen one03:41
ivanoxroberto_, sei italiano?03:41
HeimdallHappyFool : lol okay03:41
ivanoxvHintswen, what exactly is your problem?03:41
vHintswenfirstly my mouse doesn't work, secondly no commands are working03:41
LyesainerHappyFool: em, i was wondering if i can make Rhythmbox use the xmms plugins03:41
HappyFoolLyesainer: i'm not sure, but i doubt it.03:42
roberto_ciao ivanox03:42
Lyesainer*nod*03:42
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HappyFoolLyesainer: have you looked at wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?03:42
ivanoxdid u check your cd so it isn't corrupt?03:42
Lyesainerlooking at it atm03:42
ivanoxSalve roberto_03:42
HappyFoolLyesainer: e.g., gstreamer0.8-mad is for mp3s03:42
roberto_sono italiano ed  la prima volta che uso linx03:42
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vHintswenhow?03:42
ivanoxhmm. dont remember exactly, when u boot its like checkmedia or something03:42
ivanoxlook among the options03:42
ivanoxwhen u boot with the cd in drive03:43
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roberto_oltre ad essere negato con linux, non conosco bene nemmeno l'inglese03:43
vHintswenwait... nope it's not corrupt03:43
hondjehey look, italian03:43
hondjedont' see that everyday in my neck o' the woods03:44
roberto_ivanox puoi aiutarmi?03:44
ivanoxsi, aspetta ;)03:45
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roberto_ok grazie03:45
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ivanoxhondje, Im Swedish though I speak a bit of Italian ;P03:45
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hondjeivanox: I'm an american that speaks korean and spanish daily :(03:45
vHintswen???03:45
ivanoxroberto_,  leggi il messagio03:46
ivanoxkorean wtf O_O03:46
char1iecha1khow do i change the hardware setup of my monitor03:46
ivanoxhondje, why korean?03:46
hondjeivanox: The wife born/raised there, so we speak it at home for our daughter to learn ;-)03:46
ivanoxah ok :)03:46
vHintswenomg don't tell me youve given up on me already!03:46
Varangerwhat are the differences between fakeroot and sudo ?03:46
hondjeivanox: And spanish just because of where I live03:46
roberto_grazie ivanox, ho visto il messaggio ed ora ci provo, grazie ancora03:46
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ivanoxdi nulla :)03:47
HappyFoolvHintswen: the problem is you don't get a password prompt when you try to login?03:47
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kkanto34hi03:47
vHintswenno03:48
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kkanto34someone have mounted the pendrive on Ubuntu with read only03:48
vHintswen1. mouse doesn't work 2. in command thing it doesn't ask for password(and no commands work)03:48
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Varangerwhat are the differences between fakeroot and sudo ?03:49
HappyFoolvHintswen: has the mouse ever worked under ubuntu?03:49
vHintswenno03:49
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kkanto34yes03:50
HeimdallHappyFool : just one or two more things03:50
hondjeVaranger: afaik, fakeroot just does stuff like makes files you touch owned by root, etc03:50
HeimdallHappyFool : if you have time03:50
HappyFoolHeimdall: sure03:50
HappyFoolvHintswen: hmm03:50
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HeimdallHappyFool : in your network panel, in properties03:50
Varangerhondje:  and sudo does the same, doesn't it ?03:50
HappyFoolvHintswen: so all you've done is install from the cd, and on the first boot the mouse didn't work, is that correct?03:50
Heimdallconnexio, general, DNS, click on hosts03:50
hondjeVaranger: sudo allows you to execute commands that are normally not allowed to you03:51
Heimdallwhat do you have ? what is it ,?03:51
HappyFoolHeimdall: ok03:51
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vHintswenyes03:51
hondjeVaranger: though ubuntu sets it up to allow you to run ALL commands, it's often used to allow worker bees to do stuff like tinker w/ ifconfig while keeping root passwd safe, and some commands forbidden03:51
HappyFoolHeimdall: first line is 'ff00::0'    'ip6-mcastprefix'03:51
amir__im trying to load tomboy and it simply hangs. fully updated hoary. anyone had that?03:51
kkanto34someone help me03:51
kkanto34????03:51
HappyFoolvHintswen: hm. tricky03:51
kkanto34my pendrive is mounted with read only03:52
Varangerhondje: fakeroot only touches "root" files and sudo, not only touches them but it also run root commands ... am I right ?03:52
hondjeVaranger: yes, that's my understanding of fakeroot03:52
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HeimdallHappyFool : ok me too... so it can not be this :)03:52
Varangerhondje: thanks!03:52
hondjeVaranger: like, /sbin/shutdown usually requires root03:52
hondjeVaranger: but sudo shutdown lets you do that when you're a regular user03:53
HappyFoolHeimdall: that's at a much higher level than the modem driver03:53
kkanto34How I can mounted it with read/write????03:53
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hondjefakeroot would just let you say 'shutdown is owned by root'03:53
HappyFoolvHintswen: you didn't notice any error messages during install?03:53
HeimdallHappyFool : are sure that this was the correct driver ?03:53
vHintswenno03:53
HeimdallHappyFool : I mean the driver works okay but....03:54
chaitathi03:54
HappyFoolHeimdall: no, i'm not. if scanModem said you have smart-link, i'd go with that03:54
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HappyFoolHeimdall: but it might be wrong, i don't know03:54
chaitatdo someone use 'no-ip.info'?03:54
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Heimdalloh ok, I'll run scanmodem03:54
HappyFoolHeimdall: what is the driver called in windows? do you know?03:54
Varangerhondje: thanks!03:54
hondjeVaranger: You're welcome03:54
HeimdallHappyFool : no but I'll look03:54
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HappyFoolvHintswen: if you can't even login this is going to be almost impossible to debug and fix03:55
HappyFoolvHintswen: you can try booting in 'recovery mode'03:55
HappyFoolvHintswen: and then maybe look at your log files to see if there are any errors: you can use the command 'less' to view files03:55
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vHintswencommands don't work03:55
nxv_what user/pwd do i need for the cups webinterface?03:56
HappyFoolvHintswen: log files are in directory /var/log03:56
HappyFoolvHintswen: not even in recovery mode ?03:56
HappyFoolvHintswen: you need to reboot to get to recovery mode -- it's not the same as Ctl-Alt-F103:56
vHintswenhow i get to recovery mode?03:56
char1iecha1khow do install my monitor correctly03:56
HappyFoolvHintswen: you should *not* need to login for that03:56
HappyFoolvHintswen: reboot. When prompted, press 'ESC' to view the grub boot menu03:56
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vHintswenk i'll go try...03:56
HappyFoolvHintswen: then select 'Ubuntu ... (recovery mode)' or something like that03:57
HappyFoolvHintswen: look at /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages and /var/log/auth03:57
HappyFoolvHintswen: also try 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to reconfigure X -- maybe you can fix the mouse problem03:57
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dabugashi03:57
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HappyFoolvHintswen: sorry, /var/log/auth.log03:58
dabugasi'm trying to mount an iso image (mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso) and i get the error "mount: could not find any device /dev/loop#"03:58
HappyFoolvHintswen: and /var/log/Xorg.0.log for X-Window (i.e., graphical system) errors03:58
HeimdallHappyFool : I tried to open synaptic to install te emacs package, but it's telling me that my system has a broken package03:58
dabugasany ones what's up? what is /dev/loop, anyway?03:59
HappyFooldabugas: you're running hoary (ubuntu 5.04) right?03:59
dabugasHeimdall: "sudo apt-get install -f" often fixes this03:59
dabugasHappyFool: more or less ;) some warty stuff still in here03:59
HeimdallHappyFool : I check the emacs case, to install it, and finally it is tellng me that I'll have to install many packages with emacs04:00
HappyFooldabugas: /dev/loop? are loopback devices04:00
HeimdallAND04:00
Heimdalluninstall sl-modem-modules-2.6.1004:00
Heimdall!-|04:00
ubotuHeimdall: I give up, what is it?04:00
HappyFoolHeimdall: hmm04:00
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HappyFoolHeimdall: i got something similar04:00
Heimdallpretty strange04:00
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trygvebwHi04:00
HappyFoolHeimdall: there's something funny with the dependencies in that deb file04:00
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HappyFoolHeimdall: it's part of that whole 'Custom' thing I couldn't figure out04:01
rodrigohello04:01
rodrigohelp04:01
HeimdallHappyFool : I'm glad if you find this is funny ;)04:01
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Heimdallyes04:01
HappyFoolHeimdall: not at all04:01
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HappyFoolHeimdall: it's confusing04:01
trygvebwIs there a boot floppy for Ubuntu that allows you to install Ubuntu on PCs without boot-from-cd ability?04:01
HeimdallHappyFool : :-)04:01
rodrigoalguien me podria ayudar =?04:01
trygvebwrodrigo: ask :)04:01
HappyFoolHeimdall: i installed these sl-modem drivers before, and didn't have these problems04:01
HappyFooldabugas: loopback devices are how files are made available for mounting (that's how i understand it, anyway)04:02
HappyFooldabugas: as far as i know, loopback functionality is built into the hoary kernels04:02
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HappyFooldabugas: you're not running a custom kernel by any chance?04:02
rodrigoalguien habla espaol ?04:02
HappyFoolrodrigo: try /join #ubuntu-es04:03
HeimdallHappyFool : well, I have done nothing on my linux for the moment, except finding the acpi pb... do you think that re-install ubuntu woudl change something ?04:03
HappyFoolHeimdall: you mean fix anything? i doubt it04:03
dabugasHappyFool: nope. even if compiled in the kernel they should be in /dev, right?04:03
Heimdallreinstall,and do things properly04:03
HappyFooldabugas: yip, should be there04:03
Heimdallok04:03
vHintsweni can't get into logs, cd /var then cd /log right?04:03
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vHintswencause when i try cd /log it say no directory04:04
dabugasHappyFool: well, it ain't :(04:04
HappyFooldabugas: hrm. i have a directory /dev/loop/, with one file '0'04:04
Heimdallso what can I answer ? it will uninstall the sl-modem package....04:04
HappyFoolvHintswen: try 'cd log'04:04
HappyFoolvHintswen: or 'cd /var/log'04:04
norm_i'm trying to get a live-cd running on my laptop, however it fails telling me something went wrong while running "Enter preinstalled session" - does anybody have hints on what to do?04:04
Heimdallsl-modem-modules-2.6.1004:04
dabugasHappyFool: maybe i should MAKEDEV it. what's in the 0 file?04:04
HappyFooldabugas: it's a device file04:04
HappyFoolblock device, major number 7, minor 004:05
ompaultrygvebw, not that I am aware of, I have checked around some docs and I do not seem to find it - however that is not to say that it can't be done04:05
HappyFoolHeimdall: i don't know04:05
trygvebwompaul: hm, ok. Is there a network floppy?04:05
HeimdallHappyFool : I don't care after all... I do it :)04:05
HappyFoolHeimdall: it isn't working anyway, so if you want emacs, you might as well uninstall it04:05
vHintswenok cd log worked, what's the log filename?04:05
HappyFoolvHintswen: try syslog, messages, auth.log, Xorg.0.log04:06
HappyFoolvHintswen: like this: 'less syslog'04:06
HappyFoolvHintswen: use Page Up / Page Down to scroll in less, and 'q' to quit04:06
vHintsweni'm just looking for errors?04:06
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HappyFoolvHintswen: pretty much04:06
HappyFoolvHintswen: i appreciate that the logs are confusing, but it's better than nothing04:07
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Heimdallwell can you explain me what were the packages you made me instal yesterday, from the cd : build-essential, dpkg-dev, linux-headers and libasound (I didn't fin this one)04:07
HappyFoolHeimdall: build-essential is gcc (C compiler), g++ (C++) and make (a build tool)04:08
simoneHi... I am still trying to get sound to work on my newly installed totem-xine player. I've been told to tell xine to use esd as the sound driver, but I have no idea how to do this. Can somebody please advise... (AVI movie plays, but no sound)04:08
HappyFoolHeimdall: dpkg-dev i'm not sure of -- probably for building .deb files04:08
HeimdallHappyFool : you're telling me that gcc wasn't installed ?????04:08
HappyFoolHeimdall: and finally linux-headers is the /usr/src/linux-headers-* directories -- includes configuration info for your current install04:09
HappyFoolHeimdall: not by default. most people don't need gcc ;)04:09
HeimdallHappyFool :argh04:09
HappyFoolHeimdall: believe it or not, ubuntu usually works without users needing to compile anything ;)04:09
dabugasahahaha04:09
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HeimdallHappyFool : my fisrt use of my computer is internet, my second is programmation !!04:09
HappyFoolHeimdall: well, it is right there on the cd04:09
Heimdallyes04:10
ompaultrygvebw, not that I am aware of, and again that is not to say that it is not in existance04:10
HappyFoolHeimdall: it's not like you can't easily get it ;)04:10
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trygvebwompaul: thanks :)04:10
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Heimdallyes yes04:10
HeimdallHappyFool : and to update.. is it easy ?04:10
HappyFoolHeimdall: yes, just use synaptic04:11
Heimdalli supppose there is some update application04:11
ompaultrygvebw, I have this mad idea04:11
Heimdalloh ok04:11
HappyFoolHeimdall: you need to tell synaptic to look on the internet for updates, but that's about it04:11
Heimdallcool04:11
HappyFoolHeimdall: every day or so just 'Reload' and 'Apply' in synaptic, and you'll be up to date04:11
Heimdalllinux is easy ;)04:11
HappyFoolwhen it works ;)04:11
ompaulhas that machine got a reasonable amount of ram for today?04:11
Heimdallyes :)))04:11
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hondjenice, k-line04:12
ompaulHappyFool, or only react when the little icon is red on the top panel04:12
HappyFoolsimone: does sound in other applications work?04:12
hondjetwo?04:12
ompaultrygvebw,  has that machine got a reasonable amount of ram for today?04:12
HappyFoolsimone: e.g., do you hear the startup ubuntu sound when you login?04:12
HeimdallHappyFool : oh.. yesterday your mount command was not corretct04:12
simoneHappyFool ...yes04:12
HappyFoolHeimdall: oh?04:12
Heimdallumask wasn't accepted04:12
HappyFoolHeimdall: hmm. i tested it here on my fat16 memory stick, and it worked04:13
trygvebwompaul: yes04:13
HeimdallI did : sudo mount -t vfat -o ro /dev/hda5 /media/share04:13
simonethe default system sounds work04:13
HappyFoolsimone: i have normal xine, not totem-xine, but i can try to help04:13
Heimdalleach time II typed umask it was not correct04:13
simoneI'd be greatful04:13
HappyFoolsimone: is there a 'settings' menu, or maybe 'Edit -> Preferences', something like that ?04:13
simoneunder totem?04:14
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HappyFoolsimone: yes04:14
ompaultrygvebw, consider this, two partitions (three would be better), what other operating system is on it at the moment?04:14
HappyFoolsimone: well, totem-xine04:14
norm_hm... i get an integrity error on my live cd - is this normal? :P04:14
simoneHappy fool - there is Totem-Preferences04:14
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simoneUnder Audio it only gives the Audio output type: Currently selected as Stereo04:14
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HappyFoolsimone: hmm04:15
trygvebwompaul: Slackware is on it atm.04:15
VarangerI am building a new kernel04:15
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ompaultrygvebw, the question forms the basis of the answer - qemu and try to install from that?04:15
VarangerI did a "make xconfig" and I get a error that I need QT... what do I need from QT ?04:15
hondjeWhen I set LD_ASSUME_KERNEL in a start-up script for an app, do I need to change it back, or does it stay only with that shell?04:16
trygvebwompaul: ok04:16
HappyFoolsimone: sorry, i don't have totem-xine, and it looks like installing it will remove totem-gstreamer, and i don't want to do that04:16
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funtohi04:16
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dabugasHappyFool: i MAKEDEV loop devices and now i get brand new spanking error. shall i send it to you in priv? it's 4 lines long04:17
vHintswenok i got 3 errors for fonts... shuld i say?04:17
HappyFooldabugas: sure04:17
HappyFoolvHintswen: nah, they're not too important04:17
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HeimdallHappyFool : sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda5 /media/share -o umask=222,ro works04:18
vHintswenwell that's all i could find... in the Xorg file it didn't say mouse thow...04:18
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ciancibhello04:18
vHintswenit said generic keyboard but that's it i think04:18
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vHintswen(serial mouse)04:18
ciancibi installed phpmyadmin, how do i set a root password on it?04:18
HappyFoolvHintswen: try running 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'  and make sure you choose mouse options correctly04:18
simoneHappyfool - is there another programme that I can try to install that might run an avi movie?04:18
mindspinits the mysql pasword04:19
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HappyFoolsimone: let me see in plain xine can play avis -- one moment04:19
mindspinyou should change it immediately04:19
ciancibmindspin, what do u mean?04:19
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mindspinphpmyadmin04:19
ciancibright04:19
mindspintakes the useraccounts of mysql as password04:19
ciancibok04:19
mindspinits  root with no password in the beginning04:20
ciancibright that's what i have now, mindspin04:20
ciancibso how do i change that?04:20
thoreauputicHappyFool: simone xine or totem-xine can play .avi here with w32codecs installed04:20
mindspinopen users and change the root password04:20
vHintswen.?04:20
mindspincreate a user whatweveryouwant04:20
thoreauputicof course .avi is only a container for other codecs...04:20
HappyFoolthoreauputic: you think maybe the sound is in some super-weird codec not in there? can we check somehow?04:21
mindspinand maybe restart mysql-server04:21
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ciancibyou mean go to http://localhost/phpmyadmin, mindspin??04:21
mindspinyep04:21
ciancib...and change the password there?04:21
mindspinif its localhost04:21
thoreauputicI haven't followed the convo - but some newer codecs can cause problems04:21
ciancibohkay04:21
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simonehi thoreauptic ... I've really searched the whole ubuntu site and synaptic for w32codecs, but cannot seem to find them... where do I look for this?04:21
HappyFoolok, my super-dodgy airwolf divx avi plays in xine04:21
mindspinyou can do it from mysqladmin and commandline04:21
HappyFoolah-ha04:22
HappyFoolsimone: you need to use backports for those, i think04:22
Fabianunknown command: ` export'     What package should I install???04:22
HappyFoolsimone: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats should tell you how04:22
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simoneok... keep using such strange words with me and I'll think you are swearing :-)04:22
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HappyFoolsimone: heh. it's a web address04:23
Hunchbackdamned amaroK, can't get it to work :/04:23
Hunchbacki installed both Xine and GStreamer...04:23
vHintswen..?04:23
Fabiananyone knows what package is needed to execute the command "export"???04:24
vHintsweni guess that's it04:24
vHintswenwindows goes back on tomorow then...04:24
thoreauputicHunchback: change the engine in the prefs and try again04:24
dabugasFabian: your shell?04:24
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HappyFoolvHintswen: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't help?04:24
thoreauputicHunchback: did you install amarok-xine and amarok-gstreamer ?04:24
OverKhi all04:25
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Fabiandabugas, sorry, what?04:25
vHintsweno.o i gotta b back in root directory?04:25
dabugasFabian: open a terminal and type "export" your shell should provide it04:25
HappyFoolsimone: hmm, sorry, that page doesn't mention w32codecs04:25
hondjeyou know what'd be cool? If windows came with an ssh client in the dos prompt04:25
mindspinexport is executed in the shell probably your syntax or path is wrong, not the pacjage04:25
hondjeit has telnet, why not ssh? :-/04:25
OverKi've just first installed Ubuntu 5.04 and i dont know what is the root passwd... sudo also is asking for that passwd04:25
HappyFoolsimone: try ubuntuguide.org04:25
HappyFoolhondje: doesn't putty have a command-line thing?04:25
Fabianuhmmmm..... strange04:25
hondjeHappyFool: I dunno, good question04:26
thoreauputicOverK: no it wants your user password04:26
thoreauputic!rootsudo04:26
uboturumour has it, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:26
HappyFoolhondje: it has scp and err sftp i think04:26
vHintsweni gotta b back in root dir. hapy?04:26
hondjeHappyFool: windows, or putty?04:26
thoreauputicOverK: see ubotu's factoid04:26
HappyFoolvHintswen: no, you can run it from wherever04:26
HappyFoolhondje: putty04:26
vHintswenk brb04:26
hondjeoh, right04:26
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HappyFoolhondje: which is a windows ssh client04:26
dabugasFabian: nothing is strange. some of the very rudimentary commands are provided by the shell itself. i generally use bash and it gives me export. i don't know about other shells.04:26
OverKthoreauputic, where? could u gimme the url?04:26
hondjeHappyFool: Yeah, I've used that one, pretty decent04:27
thoreauputicOverK: I just did - see ubotu above04:27
thoreauputicubotu rumour has it, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:27
ubotuthoreauputic: what are you talking about?04:27
HappyFoolhondje: also try cygwin, i use it to get an xterm on my windows box ;)04:27
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thoreauputicheh04:27
hondjeHappyFool: If you want some amusing reading, I have a good thread by a newbie very upset that he couldn't install putty in mandrake, even after people posted rpms and step-by-step instructions04:27
Fabiandabugas, trying to do the following: cvs -z 3 -d \ :pserver:anoncvs@sources.redhat.com:/cvs/glibc \ export -d glibc-2.3.4-20040701 \ -D "2004-07-01 17:30 UTC" libc04:27
chadanyone had problems w/ X not coming back up after close/open of a their laptop lid?04:27
mindspinhondje or winscp04:27
thoreauputicOverK: ubotu is a bot04:27
hondjeHappyFool: I don't use windows enough to get benefit04:27
simoneHappyFool and Threaputic: Thank you I will do some reading, and hopefully I don't have to come back to bother your.04:27
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hondjemaybe 20 mins a month, dont' even have it at home04:27
HappyFoolhondje: what, was he trying to install the windows version? ;)04:27
Lyesainergrr04:28
Fabiandabugas, bash 3???04:28
Lyesainerwhat did i(hunchback) last say?04:28
mindspinI always use winscp to move files from windows too unix machines04:28
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thoreauputicsimone: no bother - that's what the channel is for :)04:28
hondjeHappyFool: he was bound and determined to build it from source, and didn't grok 'you need gcc, nub'04:28
OverKthoreauputic, how do i use it?04:28
dabugasFabian: i am cvs clueless. i can't help you there.04:28
HappyFoolhondje: hrm04:28
HappyFoolhodgman: could be tricky04:28
thoreauputicOverK: just go to that URL and read the info04:28
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hondjehttp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/xlivecd/xlivecd-20041201.iso  <---- awesomeness04:28
hondjeThat there xlivecd is great for you poor windows-using souls04:29
thoreauputicOverK: >>  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:29
hondjeburn, mount, click, and voila! xserver, cygwin, etc04:29
Fabiandabugas, how do I know which shell I'm using? there's not much joice in ubuntu, is there?04:29
HappyFooldabugas has left04:29
HappyFooltry bash --version04:29
mindspinthe windows machines I use are never mine ;-)04:29
Lyesainerk i will repeat my question cause i lost link etc: i can't get amaroK to play anything, i've downloaded both Xine + libraries and all the GStreamer plugins/libraries etc04:29
vHintswenfor that dkpg thing how i know which things to choose?04:29
Lyesainerstill, amarok find's just some aRts engine, which doesn't work04:29
thoreauputicOverK: sudo <yourcommand here>     (it wants your user password)04:30
hondjemindspin: I use one at school sometimes for printing (such nice printers hehe), and once in awhile at work to look at something for someone04:30
HappyFoolvHintswen: you'll need to know your hardware settings04:30
vHintswendam04:30
HappyFoolvHintswen: i can't remember if there are 'safe' defaults04:30
vHintswenhow can i check lol04:30
hondjeLyesainer: do you have kde stuff installed?04:30
mindspinmy wife stucks to win2k04:30
HappyFoolvHintswen: umm04:30
Lyesainerwell i used apt-get amarok to get it, so it downlaoded like 30mb of kde stuff04:30
HappyFoolvHintswen: just a sec04:30
hondjemindspin: I got mine off windows about 4 years ago, and after fighting her to use synaptic and debian (cedega got her over, but she didn't like the work), I got her a mac04:30
thoreauputicLyesainer: amarok-xine and/or amarok-gstreamer (install these and the engines should show when you restart amarok)04:31
Lyesainerthe player loads itself nicelly, just doesn't find an engine to play the music with04:31
hondjeI figure, better Jobs than Gates04:31
Lyesaineroh, ok thanks i will try04:31
thoreauputicLyesainer: in the preferences04:31
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Lyesaineryeah *nod*04:31
Lyesainer:)04:31
hondjegstreamer0.8-artsd <---hehehe, what would you need THAT for?04:31
mindspinFor I'm responsible for security here, the thins she hasn't to care ;-)04:31
mindspinshe thinks04:31
Fabianhow can i use bash-shell in ubuntu????04:31
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hondjeFabian: open a terminal04:32
mindspinstart terminal04:32
ompaulFabian, cat /etc/shells and bash --version tells you all you want to know about bash versions :) but then I think I might be misunderstanding04:32
hondjevoila, bash shell04:32
HappyFoolvHintswen: you can *try* using xorgconfig -- it might be able to tell you your video settings04:32
Lyesainerhondje: apparently the amaroK finds that artsd thing04:32
mindspinFabian still lfs ?04:32
hondjeLyesainer: artsd is the sound daemon for KDE, like esd for gnome04:32
vHintswenok04:32
Fabianmindspin, yep.....04:32
Lyesainerhm04:32
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Lyesainerwhy is WINE in universe packages?04:32
thoreauputicLyesainer: when you install what I told you, you can choose another engine04:32
OverKthx04:33
Lyesainerthoreauputic: yeah, have to finish downloading wine first04:33
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HappyFoolvHintswen: you'll have to quite dpkg-reconfigure though04:33
HappyFoolvHintswen: try Ctrl-C or Ctl-Z04:33
pgavinso, I just reinstalled ubuntu, and I had guile-gnome installed before... but now its now apt-get says its not available04:33
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mindspinfabian how can you say you're kinda experienced while not knowing how to open shell?04:33
Fabianhondje, but then my shell should know the command "export". It doesn't though04:34
pgavinbut I found the source package at http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/04:34
mindspinI would call it hybris04:34
LinuxJonesLyesainer, because it's a non-supported program04:34
HappyFoolpgavin: you need to enable universe04:34
thoreauputicFabian: peter@prospero:~$ type export04:34
thoreauputicexport is a shell builtin04:34
pgavini'm pretty sure I did04:34
HappyFoolpgavin: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the lines related to main, restricted and universe (and maybe multiverse too)04:34
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Fabianmindspin, I do know how to open a shell. I just don't know how to make shure it is a bash-shell04:34
thoreauputicFabian: so it's impossible you don't have it04:34
hondjeFabian: it is04:35
HappyFoolpgavin: hmm04:35
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pgavinmaybe its in multiverse04:35
HappyFoolpgavin: don't for 'sudo apt-get update'04:35
hondjeIf it wasn't bash, you'd know04:35
pgavinlemme check04:35
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HappyFoolpgavin: i doubt it -- it's free software, right?04:35
thoreauputicFabian: echo $SHELL04:35
pgavini have main restricted universe and multiverse04:35
Fabianthoreauputic, bash then....04:35
xinudllo04:35
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Fabianso why is this not working then? cvs -z 3 -d \ :pserver:anoncvs@sources.redhat.com:/cvs/glibc \ export -d glibc-2.3.4-20040701 \ -D "2004-07-01 17:30 UTC" libc04:35
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thoreauputicFabian: what a surprise ;)04:36
xinudhow can i change de login splash screen kubuntu04:36
mindspinexport is executed in the shell probably your syntax or path is wrong, not the package04:36
HappyFoolpgavin: hmm, i don't see guile-gnome04:36
HappyFoolpgavin: is it maybe a warty or breezy package?04:36
hondjeif I have LD_ASSUME_KERNEL in a startup script for an app, does that become the value for the user in all shells/cases until I revert it, or just in the shell I set it in ?04:36
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thr1cei have never heard of guile gnome04:36
pgavinits the guile bindings for gnome04:36
thoreauputicFabian: why would you assume the shell is broken without debugging your command first?04:36
mindspinI would call it hybris04:37
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HappyFoolpgavin: maybe source and binary packages are named differently?04:37
pgavinplus i have backports in my sources.list04:37
pgavinif i do apt-cache search guile it doesn't show up in there04:37
HappyFoolpackages.ubuntu.com reveals 0 guile-gnome04:37
pgavinI know i had it installed before...04:37
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mindspinFabian you know, the bug is mostly between screen and keyboard?04:38
pgavinbut there's definitely a package in http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/04:38
theinehondje, you can easily check that by typing env in another shell04:38
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Fabianmindspin, yep, i do know that!04:38
hondjetheine: oh, yes.....thanks :D04:38
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mindspinso check your syntax04:38
hondjeFabian: export CFLAGS="borkage" && echo $CFLAGS04:38
Fabianthoreauputic, how can I debug that command?04:38
Hunch|Backnice, that amaroK player is really neat04:38
hondjeThat'll show you export is just fine04:38
HappyFoolpgavin: hmm04:38
HappyFoolpgavin: as you said, source04:39
hondjethen build something and watch gcc gag04:39
HappyFoolmaybe you need to enable deb-src, and use 'apt-get source' ?04:39
pgavinbut I've never built a source package :b04:39
theinepgavin, what package are you looking for?04:39
hondjetheine: thanks man, totally forgot that was even doable04:40
pgavinguile-gnome (and g-wrap, actually)04:40
theinehondje, you're welcome04:40
thoreauputicFabian: it has a number of newlines - rewrite it as a script and run it in debug mode04:40
Fabianhondje, that works04:40
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hondjeFabian: Then export works fine :)04:40
vHintswenit didn't tell me my vedio settings04:40
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HappyFoolvHintswen: what did it do?04:41
theinepgavin, g-wrap is the name of an executable?04:41
vHintswenasked me a load of stuf about my computer04:41
pgavintheine, no, its a library for guile04:41
vHintswenwhat kind of keyboard, mouse, vedio card, monitor resolution etc.04:41
HappyFoolvHintswen: it didn't probe for those?04:41
HappyFoolvHintswen: hrm04:41
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Fabianthoreauputic, can I execute these commands one by one?04:42
theinepgavin, g-wrap and guile-g-wrap are only available in breezy04:42
thoreauputicFabian: sure04:42
pgavinso, anyhow, if I've downloaded the .dsc, .orig.tar.gz, and .diff.gz for the package, can I just use dpkg-source and dpkg-buildpackage to build it?04:42
thoreauputica line at a time04:42
pgavintheine, heh, that's why then04:43
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theinepgavin, sorry for the old news...04:43
pgavinmaybe I should ask for a backport :b04:43
thoreauputicFabian: a bash script is just a series of commands, at its simplest04:43
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vHintswenomg i'm so stupid04:44
hondjepgavin: sudo fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot is useful :)04:44
Mezpgavin, what you wnat a backport of?04:44
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pgavinMez, guile-gnome-platform and g-wrap04:45
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vHintsweno.o04:46
Mezpgavin - 1st one not in breezy04:46
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pgavinmez, check out http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/04:46
HeimdallHappyFool : did you try to decompress the scanmodem file ? :-[04:46
Mezand second one - I'd not be comfortable porting until it's more stable04:46
Fabianthoreauputic, I can't execute these commands one by one somehow....04:46
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HappyFoolHeimdall: i'll try the latest version.. why, you having problems?04:46
HeimdallHappyFool : I mean this one : http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/scanModem.gz04:47
Hunchbackis there other emulator for win pps except wine?04:47
pgavinMez, i've been using them for a while, and they seem stable enough to me04:47
vHintswenomg04:47
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pgavinMez, more stable than the nvidia drivers in any case :b04:47
Heimdall'gz' it means gzip no ?04:47
HappyFoolHeimdall: yip04:47
thoreauputicFabian: where did you get the command? and note that you execute a lin at a time rather than a command at a time...04:47
HappyFoolHeimdall: use gunzip to decompress it04:47
thoreauputic*line04:47
hondjeHunchback: what's pps?04:47
Hunchbackapps*04:47
Mezpgavin - why dont you check out http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/g/guile-gnome-platform/2.7.99-2/04:48
Heimdallso ... it's telling me 'not a gzip format'04:48
HappyFoolHeimdall: just downloaded and gunzipped it -- seems to be OK04:48
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thoreauputicFabian: the \ symbols are new lines (line endings)04:48
vHintswenomg04:48
vHintswenshuld i just give up on linux?04:48
HappyFoolHeimdall: try 'file scanModem.gz' -- maybe your browser decompressed it04:48
hondjeHunchback: just wine-based commercial packages04:48
hondjecedega for games, codeweavers for MS Office04:48
Heimdallgzip -d file04:48
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Hunchbackk, thanks04:48
Heimdallpermission denied04:48
Heimdall:/04:48
HappyFoolHeimdall: erk04:48
hondjeHunchback: oh, and qemu04:48
Fabianthoreauputic, I got it from LFS book 6.0. Their support channel is not very friendly though.... I tried to execute line by line04:48
HappyFoolHeimdall: put it in your home directory04:48
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HeimdallHappyFool : gods are against me04:49
MezvHintswen, if you're just going to say 2omg" or make funny faces, adn say you're stuoid, and not ask for help, then maybe linux isnt for you04:49
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HappyFoolHeimdall: ls -l scanModem.gz ?04:49
HeimdallHappyFool : it is already in my home04:49
thoreauputicFabian: \ can also be escape characters - but lfs is kind of off-topic here04:49
HappyFoolHeimdall: how did you get it onto your laptop?04:49
vHintswenlol i said omg i'm so stupid cause i thought of how to check my vid card04:49
HappyFoolHeimdall: maybe it belongs to root still04:49
vHintswenbut i was wrong :(04:49
thoreauputicFabian: maybe try their mailing list?04:49
HappyFoolHeimdall: sudo chown heimdall scanModem.gz   to change ownership04:49
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vHintswenand what u mean not ask for help?04:50
vHintsweni been asking for help for ages04:50
vHintswenno1 been able to help me04:50
HeimdallHappyFool : I dowloaded it from another computer, then brought it on a floppy to my fat32 partition under win, and then cp it in my home directory under linux04:50
rekaanyone use gparted or qtparted?  i'd like to create a new partition on my HDD and found out i can't do this when the drive is "active".  so how do i go about it?  i tried booting from a warty live cd (i'm running hoary tho,) and it couldn't/wouldn't let me run /usr/bin/gparted which is installed on my linux partition.04:50
theinevHintswen, what's your problem?04:50
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vHintswenomg now i gotta start from start again04:50
HappyFoolHeimdall: ls -l scanModem.gz to see who owns the file04:50
Fabianthoreauputic, I know it's kind of offtopic. But here I'm being helped.... :(04:50
hondjereka: I've played with gparted04:51
vHintswenmouse doesn't work and commands don't work04:51
hondjereka: you cannot resize partitions that are mounted04:51
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HeimdallHappyFool : lol, too strange, I have no rights on this file ...04:51
theinevHintswen, what kind of mouse, what commands?04:51
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fkemalhello everybody04:51
HappyFoolHeimdall: sudo chown heimdall scanModem.gz    to change ownership04:51
rekahondje: yep, i was told that, but am not sure how i would go about it then.04:51
HeimdallHappyFool : -------r-x04:51
pgavinMez, I can build both the source packages for g-wrap and guile-gnome-platform on my hoary box w/o modification04:51
vHintswenwhat u mean what kind of mouse? and all commands unless it's in recovery mode04:51
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HappyFoolHeimdall: then chmod 660 scanModem.gz to give yourself read/write permission04:52
hondjereka: are you trying to mess with your primary harddrive?04:52
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Heimdallyes04:52
theinevHintswen, serial mouse, usb mouse, ps2 mouse,...04:52
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thoreauputicreka: you would need to run it from a CD or another mounted system - the file system you are trying to resize must not be mounted - maybe try knoppix if you have it - it has qtparted I think04:52
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rekahondje: yes.  only one hdd in the box, with ubuntu and windows in dualboot04:52
vHintswenserial mouse04:52
hondjereka: either you'd have to use a livecd, or remount /dev/hda as read-only, and hope you didn't mess it up :)04:53
hondjeI'd recommend the livecd WAY over the other routes :)04:53
naliothreka ya gotta boot from other media04:53
HeimdallHappyFool : gzip -d scanModem.gz : 'not a gzip format :////04:53
HappyFoolHeimdall: 'file scanModem.gz'04:53
hondjeif the ubuntu livecd doesn't have gparted, you can try command line, or use knoppix04:53
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rekathoreauputic: hmm, i have an outdated knoppix cd - no qtparted on it.i do have a warty cd like i said.04:53
hondjemorning, nalioth04:53
HappyFoolHeimdall: that will tell you what sort of file it (probably) is04:54
theinevHintswen, go into recovery mode, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and specify /dev/ttyS0 as the input device for your mouse04:54
HappyFoolHeimdall: it's possible your browser already decompressed it04:54
HappyFoolHeimdall: how big is the file ?04:54
naliothreka: knoppix'd be your best bet (i know  nothin of what comes on the ubuntu livecd)04:54
hondjereka: You know what's fun, for future reference? Always keep /home on its own partition04:54
vHintsweni'm a newbie to linux lol i dunno how to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:54
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HappyFoolHeimdall: uncompressed it should be 189906 bytes04:54
rekahondje: yes, i have gparted installed on my hoary partition, and it was automounted when i booted from the livecd, but when i tried to run it ... it wasn't there.04:54
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hondjeThen you can totally screw everything up, and have everything safe that matters04:54
naliothhondje: reka: and the rest of you scoundrels, Good Morning04:54
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HeimdallHappyFool : yes youre right04:54
quidoffhow do I make a link in Applications?04:54
ivanoxanyone in here using winetools?04:54
thoreauputicreka: Ubuntu live CD may have parted, but not gparted or qtparted : parted is the CLI backend04:55
Heimdall18990604:55
hondjereka: you can try chrooting to the drive, but I dunno if you can do that in ro04:55
theinevHintswen, or first, when in recovery mode, do "sudo cat /dev/ttyS0", move your mouse for a while and check whether you get any ouput04:55
hondjeparted isn't too bad, even for CLI04:55
HappyFoolHeimdall: 'mv scanModem.gz scanModem; chmod a+rx scanModem; sudo ./scanModem'04:55
hondjeif you're ballsy enough to mess with it, you can use the cli version just fine I'd wager04:55
HeimdallHappyFool : file tells me : Bourne-Again shell script text executable04:55
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theinevHintswen, of course, the easiest solution would be to connect a ps2 mouse to your box...04:55
vHintswenk brb04:55
HappyFoolHeimdall: ok, it should work04:55
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vHintswencan't no second ps2 thing04:56
lpkWhat's the easiest way to change to ISO-8859-15?04:56
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HeimdallHappyFool : hihi this is .. pfffiou :)04:56
kbrookspoke04:56
Heimdallhopefully you're here04:56
rekathoreauputic: i'd like a gui though ... so i take it the livecd won't let me run certain executables on my hoary partition?04:56
HappyFoolHeimdall: yes?04:56
HappyFoolHeimdall: oh, the script output04:56
HappyFoolyes, it's ugly04:56
rekamorning nalioth04:56
theinevHintswen, but you have 1 ps2 mouse?04:56
hondjehrm, serial mouse died :( Do they still sell those?04:56
theinevHintswen, ...connected to another pc?04:56
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HappyFoolHeimdall: try to read through it and see if you can find what kind of modem it thinks you have04:57
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Heimdallyes04:57
rekahondje: you can get one of those usb->serial converter thingies.04:57
HappyFoolHeimdall: it should have created directory, called maybe 'Modem' or something like that, with informational files in04:57
HeimdallI'll do better than that04:57
hondjereka: oh, cool...think radioshack sells 'em?04:57
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Heimdallyes04:57
hondjeoh, you're .au, probably wouldn't know :)04:57
rekahondje: dunno ... i got it with my mouse :-)04:57
naliothhondje: or frys, or best buy (whre in the world are you?)04:57
LDMDoes anyone have any good documentation about setting up a SATA RAID 1 for data storage (not boot)?04:57
HappyFoolHeimdall: you finding any useful info, or not?04:58
Heimdallcan I make a tar of this directory ?04:58
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hondjenalioth: colorado, only circuit city around here, and it's terrible selection04:58
erbhi04:58
naliothHeimdall: you can tar any directory04:58
rekahondje: actually, i think we do have radioshack .. i think it's called tandy though04:58
hondjewell, office depot and office max, office max even sold RH boxsets until they went to RHEL-only04:58
HappyFoolHeimdall: yip. tar czf Modem.tar.gz Modem/04:58
naliothhondje: then i guess you're stuck with the 'shack04:58
hondjereka: ah yes, same gig, or at least once was :)04:58
Hoxzer^^Does bittornado support super seed mode?04:58
hondjeradioshack sucks now, too04:58
naliothreka: yes, that is the name they use in .au04:58
vHintsweninput/output error04:59
hondjeBut radioshack in .ca isn't radioshack....odd world04:59
naliothHoxzer^^: i believe the GUI has that checkbox, yes04:59
theinevHintswen, when do you get that?04:59
vHintswenyeah i got a ps2 mouse... on this computer04:59
vHintswenwhen i typed in sudo cat /dev/ttys004:59
theinevHintswen, temporarily remove that, plug it into your Ubuntu box, reboot and see whether that solves your problem04:59
vHintswenand everyone's sleeping so i dunno if i shuld keep going back and forth04:59
hondjeoh kick ass, froogle found an optical wireless serial mouse :D05:00
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vHintswenif it does solve my problem?05:00
theinevHintswen, ok, maybe it's "sudo cat /dev/ttyS1"05:00
theinevHintswen, yes05:00
hondjeoh, 'universal' serial mouse :(05:00
HeimdallHappyFool : I'll show you05:00
quidoffhow do I make a shurtcut to a program in this Applications-Menu. I mean in Gnome. I have to Ubuntu not KDE05:00
HappyFoolHeimdall: not in channel ;)05:00
vHintswenyes??!05:00
HeimdallHappyFool : of course not :)05:00
HappyFoolHeimdall: put it up here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:01
HeimdallHappyFool : do u think I'm such a newbie ?? :)05:01
hondjemight be easier to buy a new mobo w/ working ps2 ports....05:01
fkemali have just installed ubuntu... i cant use my tv card and audio card... does anybody know why ??05:01
HappyFoolaargh. why can't X have just one cut-and-paste clipboard05:01
HappyFoolHeimdall: heh05:01
HeimdallHappyFool : no no don't worry I have a webspace, you'll see05:01
LinuxJonesquidoff, try searching the ubuntu site for menu-editor there are a few that are available05:01
theinevHintswen, check whether Ubuntu works if you use an ps2 mouse on the Ubuntu box05:01
HappyFoolHeimdall: just in case ;)05:01
HappyFoolHeimdall: ok05:01
hondjeHappyFool: LEGACY!05:01
Heimdallyeaah ;)05:01
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hondjeToo bad we can't do the Apple and stop following standards :)05:01
quidoffthx05:01
vHintswencan't esactly do that right now :(05:01
naliothquidoff: see the ubuntulinux.org/wiki/   re gnome menu editors05:02
vHintswen2 loud lol05:02
hondjethen again, if we did that I'd have to take the X.org stickers off my case05:02
vHintswenjust tell me, if it works then what?05:02
vHintswenand if it doesn't...05:02
vHintswenwhich it won't...05:02
naliothhondje: weren't you badmouthing apple earlier?05:02
theinevHintswen, what makes you think it won't work?05:02
hondjenalioth: That's just my gig, I tend to like their stuff05:03
HeimdallHappyFool : I have no problem with computing in general, but with linux.... I don't know why... I think my laptop does not help05:03
vHintswenwell i'm verry un-lucky lol05:03
hondjeexcept the hardware in that damn mini-mac05:03
HappyFoolHeimdall: yip05:03
vHintswenif it does work... what about keyboard? lol05:03
TokenBadhondje, I found where it talks about pure-ftp so that it tries to start05:03
naliothhondje: ?!?05:03
TokenBador load05:03
fkemali have just installed ubuntu... i cant use my tv card and audio card... does anybody know why ??05:03
fkemali have just installed ubuntu... i cant use my tv card and audio card... does anybody know why ??05:03
ivanoxcuz u spam05:03
hondjenalioth: gotta take it back to the shop, CPU is hosed05:03
theinevHintswen, if it does (which it most likely will), you can either buy a second ps2 mouse (cheap) or replace one line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:03
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TokenBadbut now to know how to remove it or what to replace it with05:03
hondjeI assume it is, from being on a borked logic board that was causing it to overheat so bad05:03
naliothfkemal: in anyone knows the answer to your vague question, they will answer you05:04
HeimdallHappyFool : you know, I've made worst... tried to install a slackware 9.0 on my P2 200Mhz :)05:04
vHintsweni've got no second ps2 slot thing on computer thow05:04
naliothfkemal: give it a few minutes tween askin the same question05:04
Heimdall2 years ago05:04
HeimdallI was mad at the end05:04
hondjeTokenBad: ftpd can be a PITA, but probably good...at least when you got it running, it'll be more secure than a magical install would make it05:04
vHintswenwhat's this line to change?05:04
LDMfkemal: Could you tell us which sound card you have & which TV Card you have?05:04
HappyFoolHeimdall: heh05:04
vHintswenand how to change it05:04
theinevHintswen, why would you need a _second_ ps2 slot?05:04
jbroomeLDM: naa, it's much more fun is we guess. ;)05:04
vHintswen1 for mouse 1 for keyboard?05:04
naliothhondje: you didnt replace the top cover with a 6" fan?05:04
fkemaltv card happuge...  sound cmedia05:04
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theinevHintswen, ah, I see05:05
TokenBadhondje, this is in my inetd.conf: ftp     stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd-wrapper05:05
LDMjbroome: lol...05:05
TokenBadwhich is where it gets the pure ftp shit from05:05
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TokenBadbut I want to use proftpd  now05:05
hondjenalioth: no, usually runs cool, in theory...the logic board was bad, and I think it caused the CPU to go bad too, now it hangs and crashes randomly05:05
theinevHintswen, have you checked whether "sudo cat /dev/ttyS1" gives you any output when you move your mouse for a while?05:05
hondjenalioth: but god bless apple's top-notch warrenty guys05:05
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naliothhondje: i will NEVER buy another mac w/o the APP05:05
hondjeTokenBad: then just replace that /usr/sbin/pure-blahblahblah line05:05
HappyFoolHeimdall: if you want me to take a look at the output of scanModem, i'll be back in about 30 min05:05
jeroen_When installing Ubuntu I told the installer that the clock in my BIOS was set to local time. What do I do to change it to GMT?05:06
hondjenalioth: I wish I did for my last powermac05:06
vHintswenno, can't anymore cause everyone's sleeping... just tell me what to do and i do in morning hopefully something works05:06
hondje$3000 on the thing, and a week after the warranty died so did it05:06
naliothhondje: we all have to learn somwhere05:06
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LinuxJonesjeroen_, did the install go ok ?05:06
HeimdallHappyFool : ok no pb, I give you the link now : you do what you want when you want :http://nico.aunai.free.fr/tmp/Modem.tar05:06
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theinevHintswen, first you need to identify the corepointer (mouse) device, if "sudo cat /dev/ttyS1" gives you any output, then that's your corepointer device05:06
hondjenalioth: You wouldn't happen to know how a high-end PPC based computer crunches integers vs a high-end x86-based computer?05:07
luketihello somebody speak spanish?05:07
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LDMfkermal: did you make sure your sound wasn't muted?  It's a common problem.05:07
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Fanskapethmm bad bad05:07
LinuxJonesluketi, you can try #ubuntu-es05:07
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hondjeluketi: en #ubuntu-es hablan espanol05:07
Fanskapetmy hardware 3D support is broken in ubuntu05:07
thoreauputicfkemal: what does `lspci | grep audio ` return in a shell ?05:07
luketiok thanks05:07
Fanskapetreal bad since i don't know what has happened :/05:07
hondjeFanskapet: what kind of gfx card?05:08
Fanskapethondje ATI Mobility 970005:08
Fanskapethave worked before05:08
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samuelsup all05:08
Fanskapetnow im only able to use software OGL05:08
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theinevHintswen, then do "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" which will open an editor, look for "/dev/input/mice" and replace it with "/dev/ttyS1"05:08
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theinevHintswen, also, replace "ImPS/2" with "auto"05:08
gigamonkeyAnyone know about the error message in kern.log "hdc: lost interrupt"05:08
vHintswenthat's if 'sudo cat /dev/ttyls1' works right?05:09
gigamonkeyfollowed by "hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01)05:09
theinevHintswen, right05:09
vHintswenk05:09
vHintswenand if it doesn't?05:09
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LDMAnyone know how to set up a SW RAID 1 with 2 new SATA disks?05:09
hondjeFanskapet: what does 'glxinfo | grep server' say?05:09
samuelim trying to edit the Desktop->Preferences menu but i dont know how, ive read of the menu editor SMEG but that only seems to do the Apps menu, any way i can edit the prefs menu? by hand?05:09
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theinevHintswen, come back and ask for more help...05:09
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Fanskapethondje im not in linux at the moment05:10
vHintswenk brb... might as well try now05:10
jeroen_LinuxJones instll went ok05:10
fkemalLDM... its is not muted.. what now ?05:10
hondjeFanskapet: oh, okay05:10
Fanskapetbus glxinfo tells me that MESA is activated05:10
hondjeFanskapet: okay, good info that05:10
gigamonkeyI'm running the 2.6.10-5-686-smp kernel.05:11
gigamonkeyFor whatever that's worth.05:11
LinuxJonesjeroen_, ok right click the date/time on the gnome panel and select adjust date & time05:11
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jeroen_LinuxJones, yes05:11
LinuxJonesjeroen_, then enter your users password05:11
LDMfkermal: someone who probably knows more thanl me asked you to do an 'lspci' above... scroll up and look for your name.05:12
Fanskapetbut even :)05:12
Fanskapetmaybe i'l try installing the original package from ati and not the apt-get one.05:12
Fanskapetonce again05:12
Fanskapet:)05:12
Fanskapetthe strange thing is that i had it working before..05:12
thoreauputicfkemal: does `lspci | grep snd ` contain the driver " snd_cmipci " ?05:12
hondjegigamonkey: that's an oddball kernel thing, googling doesn't help much either :-/05:12
luketisorry, how entry to ubuntu es?05:12
LinuxJonesluketi, /join #ubuntu-es05:12
hondjeFanskapet: any updates lately that might have borked it, like to X, Gnome, or the Kernel?05:12
gigamonkeyhondje: I know (about Google not helping much).05:12
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rekaFanskapet: that process is more complicated05:12
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fkemali really dont know what that is.. where should i look.. tell me pls05:12
jeroen_LinuxJones, not necessary, I have had Synaptic opened just a minute ago ;)05:12
luketithank linujones05:12
hondjegigamonkey: If you asked 30 minutes ago, I had THE guy to ask there :)05:12
thoreauputicfkemal: right click the desktop, choose terminal, type that in, hit enter05:13
LinuxJonesjeroen_, I thought you were trying to change your timezone ?05:13
klaymhere's my desktop: www.kotiposti.net/jisometsa/Kuvakaappaus.png05:13
gigamonkeyhondje: do you mean "that's an oddball kernel thing" as in, "not an Ubuntu problem"?05:13
LDMfkermal: Launch a shell (command prompt)05:13
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thoreauputicfkemal: lspci | grep snd      << type that and see if it contains  snd_cmipci  (don't paste the output here)05:13
hondjegigamonkey: Well, could be if something wasn't compiled right, or missed a bug fix, but I'd offhand suspect hardware or the kernel05:13
Fanskapetreka, yes but i've done that before so it won't be a problem for me :)05:13
Fanskapethondje, hmm well nah.. just used the update manager and updated GAIM :)05:14
Fanskapetand that shouldn't break the GL compatibility :05:14
Fanskapet:P05:14
rekaFanskapet: ah, no worries then. :-)05:14
jeroen_LinuxJones, I don't have to enter my password05:14
hondjeFanskapet: hrm, I guess just reinstall the fglrx drivers and hope :)05:14
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ivanoxanyone around using wine?05:14
jeroen_LinuxJones, because I had Synaptic open not-so-long-ago05:14
Fanskapetyeah :)05:14
Fanskapet*yawns*05:14
LinuxJonesjeroen_, ohh ok05:14
jeroen_LinuxJones, less than 15 minutes ago, so the password is saved05:14
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vHintswensudo cat /dev/ttys1 don't work (input/output error)05:14
LinuxJonesjeroen_, yeah I didn't get what you were talking about :D05:15
jeroen_LinuxJones, sorry, anyway, I opened it05:15
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vHintswengonna b 2 noisy to take out my mouse and plug it in there and all so i try that in morn05:15
theinevHintswen, "sudo cat /dev/ttys1" or "sudo cat /dev/ttyS1"? there's a difference...05:15
samuelsup all, is there a better menu editor than SMEG? SMEG wont edit the preferences menu yet... or by hand?05:15
gigamonkeySo the main problem that this hdc lost interrupt seems to cause is that it completely freezes VMWare, rendering one of it's processes unkillable, even with kill -9 as root.05:15
gigamonkeyIs there any chance that VMWare is somehow causing the problem as well? Or is it just an innocent victim?05:16
jeroen_LinuxJones, and no, I don't want to change my timezone05:16
fkemalthoreauputic....  no it doesnot contain snd_cmipci05:16
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jeroen_I want Ubuntu to see the time/date settings in the BIOS as GMT, not local time05:16
VincentXhow do you make a root account=05:16
theinevHintswen, anyway, good luck, gotta leave now...05:16
VincentXhow do you make a root account?05:16
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jeroen_VincentX, sudo password05:17
Seveassamuel, the preferences menu is not part of the freedestktop.org specification05:17
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LDMfkemal: did you get lspci to work for you?05:17
Heimdallhey LinuxJones, are are you guy ?05:17
jeroen_VincentX, but there's no use really05:17
SeveasVincentX: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:17
fkemalno... how do i get it ..05:17
Seveassamuel, and as such, there will probably not be an editor for that05:17
thoreauputicfkemal: aargh sorry - type lsmod | grep snd and see if it is in that (my mistake)05:17
TokenBadhondje, looks like got it to connect...and restrict to home dir05:18
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TokenBadnow to see if anyone can upload05:18
Seveasjeroen_, sudo passwd will have unexpected results :) (ie, you change YOUR password :))05:18
hondjeTokenBad: the moment of truth ;-)05:18
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TokenBadwell it hasn't let anyone upload yet05:18
LinuxJonesHeimdall, eh am I a guy ?05:18
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samuelSeveas, no kiddin? didnt know that, b4 you could edit everything with nautilus... is that going to work again? just curious?05:18
TokenBadwhy would this be any different05:18
TokenBadheheh05:18
jeroen_Seveas, VincentX okay, "sudo -i && password" then05:18
christosis the password for su different from the password i use for sudo?05:18
LDMfkemal: are you using GNOME or KDE for your desxtop?05:18
Seveasjeroen_, will neither work :)05:18
HeimdallLinuxJones : don't know this is an expression.... :/ :)05:19
Seveassudo -i will open a new shell05:19
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fkemalGnome i think05:19
Seveaspasswd will be executed after that shell terminates05:19
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Seveasjeroen_, welcome to the intricacies of sudo :)05:19
HeimdallLinuxJones : anyway I hope youre doing well05:19
ivanoxis dma enabled on harddrives by default or do I have to enable it?05:19
jeroen_Seveas, VincentX last attempt: "sudo password root"05:19
LinuxJonesHeimdall, thanks dude same to you :)05:20
LDMfkemal: ok, I'm not as familiar with gnome... but you want to go where your programs are listed, and look for gnometerminal or something similar.05:20
hondjeivanox: you have to add it, /etc/hdparm.conf05:20
VincentXok05:20
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fkemalthoreauputic ... it is not there also05:20
thoreauputicjeroen_: typo - passwd is what you want05:20
jeroen_thoreauputic, yeah..05:20
thoreauputicfkemal: what does lspci | grep audio say ?05:20
jeroen_stupid sudo :p05:20
jeroen_I want Ubuntu to see the time/date settings in the BIOS as GMT, not local time05:20
TokenBaddang none of my friends are answering so they can test my ftp05:21
jeroen_How do I do this?05:21
TokenBadmust be to early for them05:21
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VincentXbe back in a sec05:21
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fkemalthere writes.... snd_pcm.... snd_usb_audio and much more... but not snd_cmipci05:21
Seveasjeroen_, try tzconfig05:21
mypapiti've installed ubuntu 5.04...but how do i get connected to broadband (adsl)?05:21
jeroen_Seveas, have tried, that just change timezone05:21
Seveas(oslt)05:21
mypapithelp me!!05:21
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fkemalldm... i have root terminal.. and its open05:22
thr1cemypapit, you probably already are05:22
thr1cetry ping www.google.com05:22
Seveasmypapit, try pppoeconf05:22
ivanoxhondje, should I enable it on the device or on the partitions? I suppose device would be more logic right?05:22
mypapitok05:22
thoreauputicjeroen_: or rerun sudo base-config and change the time to utc05:22
hondjeivanox: correct05:22
Seveasivanox, device indeed05:22
ivanoxok coolio05:22
thr1cefor broadband...?05:22
hondjeivanox: if you want, msg me and I can give you some hdparm help05:22
mypapitthr1ce, i'm using other box rite now, because ubuntu 5.04 can connect directly to adsl05:22
thr1ceooh, adsl05:22
thr1cenevermind then  :_05:23
mypapitSeveas, wish ubuntu made these things more obvious05:23
thr1ceactually, ubuntu probably hs the BEST hardware detection of any distro05:23
bionicAnyone know how i get Quake3 to use alsa aswell? I changed the snddevice to /dev/adsp, but it still show up that quake3 uses /dev/dsp when i run lsof |grep dsp05:23
Seveasmypapit, agreed :)05:23
thr1ceso no complaining05:23
thoreauputicfkemal:    lspci | grep audio  should tell you what sound card you have05:23
TokenBadmypapit, I use cable..and it detected mine auto05:23
mypapitthr1ce, agreed with you... hardware detection was a breeze... easy to use... but i cant connect to dsl..05:23
jeroen_thoreauputic, it gives no output05:24
SeveasTokenBad, adsl isn't cable05:24
mypapitTokenBad, maybe because it was assign by dhcp05:24
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thoreauputicjeroen_: odd05:24
TokenBadahh05:24
SeveasTokenBad, cable doesn't use pppoe05:24
jeroen_thoreauputic, Breezy here, though ;)05:24
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mypapithehe..05:24
thoreauputicjeroen_: all bets are off then ;)05:24
rekabionic: can you now play > 2 sounds at once now? (i sent you the fix last night)05:25
fkemalthoreauputic ... it says nothing...05:25
jeroen_thoreauputic, I don't see why; there must be a way to stop Ubuntu from setting the system clock from the hardware clock in such a way..05:25
fkemalthoreauputic ... may i pm u? wanna ask something in private05:25
thoreauputicfkemal: :(05:25
jeroen_well, there should be a way.. thoreauputic05:25
Seveasjeroen_, run base-config again...05:26
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bionicreka, well i can now with f.eks xmms and mplayer, but quake3 still stops at sound initializing when running xmms05:26
thoreauputicjeroen_: running base-config should work05:26
thoreauputicfkemal: OK05:26
lancer285is there a .deb package for mplayer that works w/ ubuntu?05:26
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thr1cewww.ubuntuguide.com05:26
Seveaslancer285, yes, in the Ubuntu multiverse repository :)05:26
thr1ceorg05:26
thr1ce*05:26
Seveasubuntuguide is bad...05:27
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thr1ceit has the answer05:27
thoreauputicfkemal: OK accepted - go ahead05:27
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fkemalok05:27
lancer285is there a way to search the repository? so I can find the package name?05:27
thr1ce"how can I install other media players, such as Mplayer"05:27
naliothubuntugide is bad05:27
thr1ceapt-cache search mplayer05:27
Seveaslancer285, apt-cache search05:27
Seveaslancer285, or packages.ubuntu.com05:27
rekabionic: does it run ok without xmms?05:27
fkemalcan u make a direct connection to my pc.. with remote control.. is there a way ?05:27
naliothlancer285: packages.ubuntu.com05:27
lancer285awesome, thanks.05:27
thoreauputicfkemal: I see no message ?05:27
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bionicreka, yes it does, i use the alsa output05:27
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jeroen_thanks Seveas05:27
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lancer285I'm used to urpmi w/ mandrake, so this is pretty new to me05:27
lamberthello05:28
bionicreka, that came out wrong, thaught you meant xmms, but yeah quake3 runs ok without xmms05:28
thr1cei used google with slackware :)05:28
lambertnot french here???05:28
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naliothlambert: en #ubuntu-fr05:28
lambert?what?05:28
virtualdcan anyone show me their /etc/ld.so.conf?05:28
rekabionic: ah, i'm just interested mind, i don't have a solution ... haven't installed q3 yet in ubuntu05:28
thoreauputicfkemal: try just /msg thoreauputic <something>05:28
naliothlambert: parlez francais en #ubuntu-fr05:29
Heimdallhey lambert : #ubuntu-fr st le channel en franais mais y'a moins demonde ;)05:29
lambertoah ok05:29
Heimdallnalioth : ahah :)05:29
lambertbou j'ai eu peur05:29
thoreauputicfkemal: your dcc isn't getting through05:29
Seveasvirtuald:05:29
Seveascat: /etc/ld.so.c: No such file or directory05:29
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Seveasdennis@mirage ~ $ cat /etc/ld.so.conf05:29
Seveas/usr/X11R6/lib05:29
Seveasghe, discard the first line of that ;)05:29
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virtualdok thankns05:29
Heimdalllambert : si tu fais de l'info,n il faut parler anglais sans en avoir peur ;)05:29
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virtuald:)05:29
lambertok merci05:29
Heimdallu'r welcome05:29
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christosis su supported in ubuntu?05:30
lambertamis je dois repartir  alors @+05:30
optikhey, I just purchased a font for use on a design that I am doing, how do I make it so that I can use the font in gimp?05:30
naliothchristos: yes it is05:30
thenukehow do I reinstall grub to MBR with some liveCD?05:30
Heimdallreka : you think that's beautifile language ?? :)05:30
Heimdallbeautiful*05:30
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rekaHeimdall: well... the girls sure like it. :-)05:30
Seveasthechitowncubs, mount your drives, chroot into the installed system and run grub-install05:30
jeroen_thenuke, search for it, you'll find it05:30
christosthe password i use to login doesn't work for su, what should i use?05:30
naliothoptik: drop it in ~/.fonts  i believe05:30
Seveasthenuke*05:30
Heimdallreka : oh ? :)05:30
Fabianhow can I copy all files that end with .hrf from one directory to another?05:31
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Heimdallreka : well one point for me so ;)05:31
naliothchristos: su only works to switch regular users by default05:31
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SeveasFabian, cp /path/to/folder1/*.hrf /path/to/folder2/05:31
rekaFabian: cp *.hrf /path/to05:31
naliothchristos: ubuntu doesnt use 'root' account by default05:31
lancer285fabian cp path/to/files/*.hrf /path/to/files05:31
christosok i got it05:31
optiknalioth:  there is no ~/.fonts05:31
Seveaschristos: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:31
Fabianhehe, thx Seveas, reka, lancer28505:31
JesterHi, I'm trying to install ubuntu-amd64 on a hardware SATA raid0 running on nforce3 chipset.  It's able to find the HDs correctly, but it can't see the raid and puts them as 2 seperate drives on /dev/sda and /dev/sdb. Anything I could do to make it recognize the raid, or anyone succeeded with a raid on nforce3-250GB?05:31
naliothoptik: so make one05:31
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Fabianlike windows then....05:32
Brunellusstupid questions:  If I no longer want to run the 2.6.11 kernel and prefer to run 2.6.8, can I just remove the 2.6.11 kernel in apt and have ubuntu boot the 2.6.8?05:32
optikkk05:32
christosso su doesn't mean super user it meas switch user05:32
naliothchristos: you are after "sudo"05:32
SeveasBrunellus, 2.6.10 is the default for hoary though, but yes you can05:32
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lsuactiafnerJester : i had the same problem, basicaly i pwned a gentoo 64bit boxen and made my own kernel that actually worked05:32
optiknalioth:  just restart X now?05:32
virtualddoes a library need something extra for static linking?05:32
SeveasBrunellus, warning though: install the other one first, reboot into it and *then* remove the other05:32
naliothoptik: restart shouldnt be required05:32
virtualdlike an .a file05:32
naliothoptik: just open gimp05:33
BrunellusSeveas:  I still have the 2.6.8 kernel and the headers...05:33
topyliFabian: actually, wildcards are used a bit differently. * in unix = *.* in windows05:33
BrunellusIn fact, I'm running off that kernel now05:33
Jesterlsuactiafner, ok so newer kernels should work ?05:33
Brunellus2.6.10 doesn't like my hardware or ndiswrapper--because somehow I can't seem to get ndiswrapper and my wlan driver to run with kernels newer than 2.6.8-505:33
lsuactiafneryeh newer kernels continue to add support for new hardware05:33
optikthanks05:33
optikworked :D05:33
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naliothoptik: restarting is only required when one updates the kernel05:34
BrunellusSeveas:  are they still releasing security patches for the 2.6.8x kernels, or is that done?05:34
Seveas...or when one has seriously screwed up services/kernel modules nalioth :)05:35
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SeveasBrunellus, yes they are05:35
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naliothSeveas: there are exceptions to all rules05:35
Brunellusb/c ideally, I'd like to point apt to get the patched 2.6.8 kernel and headers, but run hoary otherwise05:35
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nalioth_wrknwork schedule of a cab drive is never static05:35
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SeveasBrunellus, they will continue to support 2.6.8 for at least 16 more months05:35
Brunellusawesomeness.  what repository would I have to add to keep the 2.6.8 kernel?05:36
Seveass/16/10/05:36
Seveasapt-pin the kernel to warty and use hoary for the rest :)05:36
Brunelluswait, how do I do I apt-pin the kernel to warty?05:36
SeveasBrunellus, search the wiki for apt pinning05:37
Brunellusta very muchly!05:37
topyliBrunellus: you can do it in synaptic if you don't feel like reading :)05:37
lsuactiafnerseems a new kernel is out yay05:37
Brunellusis anyone aware of an ubuntu backport for the uqm 0.4 package?05:37
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scottthey removed the instructions for installing mplayer's codecs with totem from the wiki. I did add proprietary plugins in totem which opened a directory and I just copied them all in there, but they aren't working05:38
scottany ideas?05:38
Brunelluswhat?!05:38
HappyFoolHeimdall: you there?05:38
Brunellusthey removed 'restricted-formats'?05:38
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HeimdallHappyFool : yeah05:39
scottBrunellus: no, they just removed that section05:39
HeimdallHappyFool : I found some interesting stuff05:39
topylieither beagle 0.0.11 is faster than .10 or i'm dreaming05:39
HappyFoolHeimdall: needed a break from the pc05:39
HappyFoolHeimdall: ah-ha?05:39
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HeimdallHappyFool : normal05:39
HeimdallHappyFool : I think05:39
Brunellush'mmm.  googlecache tme?05:39
Brunellustime?05:39
HeimdallHappyFool : did you see my link ?05:39
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HeimdallHappyFool : http://nico.aunai.free.fr/tmp/05:39
HappyFoolBrunellus: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats is still there, afaik05:39
LinuxJonesscott, alot of folks just install totem-xine or gxine and it just works after installing the w32codec package05:40
Jesterlsuactiafner, sry to bother you mate lol, been trying to find a solution to this problem for a while (amd64+nforce3+raid), can you detail a bit how you made it work ?05:40
HappyFoolHeimdall: ok, going there now05:40
HeimdallHappyFool : I don't understand very much of those files BUT, I found something05:40
ilba7rdo i have to reboot every time i loose connection to my wirless network or is there a smarter way to re establish network connection?05:40
rekascott: it's still there: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo05:40
HeimdallHappyFool : this link : http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/slmodem-serial.html, which actually talk about the new driver05:41
jbroomeilba7r: sudo /etc/init.d/network restart might work better05:41
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scottreka, LinuxJones, thanks05:41
ilba7rthanx jbroome05:41
HeimdallHappyFool : it could be that the previous driver was not ok, so I uninstalled all, and I wanna try this new one05:41
thoreauputicilba7r: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart  or ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0   I guess05:41
jbroomeilba7r: np05:41
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Heimdalltold to be compatible with kernel 2.605:42
fetmanwhat's wrong with my sound? all of a sudden it's just all quiet? I have checked the volume-settings, the soundcard (it works in windows), and the amplifier.. :(05:42
zorglubejoin/ ubuntu-fr05:42
ilba7rthoreauputic unfourtanetly it is wlan not eth005:42
thoreauputicilba7r: then substitute as appropriate I supose05:42
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thoreauputic*suppose05:42
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LinuxJonesfetman, hit "alt + F2" then start typing gstreamer-properties (it will auto-complete for you)05:43
LinuxJonesfetman, for the output try selecting esd or alsa and see if one of those work05:44
fetmanLinuxJones: ok..05:44
HappyFoolHeimdall: hrm05:44
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HeimdallHappyFool yes ?05:44
ilba7rthoreauputic thanx i will try it though with wlan things are not as smooth as with eth05:44
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ilba7rthank you guys05:44
TokenBadbah i give up05:44
Addiusaff, I'd forgotten how long it takes to compile a whole kernel on an older system <,<05:44
fetmanLinuxJones: output is set to ESD, and input is set to OSS05:44
HappyFoolHeimdall: have you tried that 'the symptom' part? Do you have that problem?05:45
TokenBadpeople still can't upload05:45
HappyFoolHeimdall: i thought your modemd launch ok05:45
TokenBadbut at least now says permission denied05:45
refuze2loozei have a multimedia keyboard that i'm trying to get to control beep media player. so i mapped my play/etc keys to XF86Play, etc. using xmodmap and using configuration editor assigned XF86Play to "beep-media-player -t" but it's not working. using xev i can see that the keys are working and indeed mapped to XF86AudioPlay. anybody know what's going on??05:45
HeimdallHappyFool : what symptom aprt ?05:45
hondjerefuze2looze: try using the absolute path, maybe?05:45
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LinuxJonesfetman, ok did you try alsa as output then hit test to see if there is sound05:45
HappyFoolHeimdall: near the top of http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/slmodem-serial.html05:46
HappyFoolHeimdall: 'The symptom:'05:46
fetmanLinuxJones: no sound05:46
refuze2loozehondje: what do you mean?05:46
HeimdallHappyFool : err...no :-D05:46
TokenBadI think I need to redo the mount stuff05:46
TokenBadand thats why people can't uploads05:46
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fetmanLinuxJones: when i try to test with esd it says "failed to construct test pipeline for esd"05:47
HeimdallHappyFool : I'll install the new driver, can't be worst05:47
LinuxJonesfetman, right click the sound icon on the gnome panel and select properties, is there a soundcard listed in the dropdown list box ?05:47
hondjerefuze2looze: /usr/bin/beep-media-player05:47
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HappyFoolHeimdall: fair enough05:47
Heimdallsudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy ?05:48
refuze2loozehondje: nah.. i tried having it run other stuff too and it doesn't work05:48
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hondjerefuze2looze: where'd you set the shortcuts at?05:48
scottanyone know where evolution saves it's configs? I always copy my .evolution folder over thinking that will keep everything but it always asks me to enter account info etc anyway05:48
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HappyFoolHeimdall: is that for me?05:48
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HeimdallHappyFool : sorry, yes05:49
fkemalcan i see the files on a ntfs partition in linux ??? is that possible05:49
HeimdallHappyFool : is that correct ?05:49
rekarefuze2looze: afaik, you need to have bmp active before using the buttons, which kind of nulls the whole point of having the keys.  do they work when bmp is active?05:49
HappyFoolHeimdall: that should work if the directory /media/floppy exists05:49
LinuxJonesfkemal, yeah look @ www.ubuntuguide.org05:49
refuze2loozehondje: the keyboard shortcuts? configuration-editor /apps/metacity/global_keybindings (the other shortcuts i assigned there do work05:49
HappyFoolHeimdall: you might want a 'umask=222' or similar option05:49
Heimdallheee.... not working :)05:49
refuze2loozereka: no. bmp is active05:49
hondjerefuze2looze: hrm, got me beat then :)05:49
HappyFoolHeimdall: does /media/floppy exist ?05:49
Heimdallyes05:50
balorI've got my sound drivers loaded but some OSS programs seem to be failing. How can I find out what's making them fail?05:50
refuze2loozereka: even if i try to have it open firefox or something it doesn't work05:50
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fetmanLinuxJones: you mean preference instead of properties?05:50
HeimdallI must have a floppy in it ??05:50
HappyFoolHeimdall: try 'mount /dev/fd0'05:50
rekarefuze2looze: using gnome?05:50
HappyFoolHeimdall: yes ;)05:50
fetmanLinuxJones: and yes, it's listed there05:50
Heimdallah lol05:50
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Heimdallwhat a shame :)05:50
refuze2loozereka: yes05:50
HappyFoolHeimdall: /dev/fd0 is in /etc/fstab with a 'user' option, so you shouldn't need sudo05:50
refuze2loozereka: the funny thing is it was working before and then it suddenly stopped05:50
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rekarefuze2looze: i've always set mine up using: sys->prefs->k/b shortcuts05:51
rekarefuze2looze: i'm not familiar with your method05:51
HappyFoolHeimdall: which version of the driver are you going to try?05:51
HeimdallHappyFool : http://www.smlink.com/objects/slmodem-2.9.10.tar.gz05:51
Heimdallthis one05:51
Lafitte-what file i edit to edit my grub loader (remove older kernel entries ?05:51
Heimdallthe last05:51
dhonn/boot/grub/menu.lst05:51
Lafitte-thanks05:51
thoreauputicLafitte-: /boot/grub/menu.lst05:51
HeimdallHappyFool : I've read about : http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/smartlink/ungrab-winmodem.tar.gz also in the files...05:52
TokenBadwho can help me with mounting drive..to see if can figure out why people can't upload to me?05:52
rekarefuze2looze: might be worth a look: http://bmp-itouch.sourceforge.net/05:53
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HappyFoolHeimdall: that's only needed in specific cases, as far as i can tell from the linmodems page05:53
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Heimdallokay05:53
refuze2loozereka: you set it there and it controls BMP?05:53
HeimdallHappyFool : well tat cool I'm learning a lot of things05:53
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HappyFoolHeimdall: it might be worth trying if what you're doing now doesn't work05:54
HeimdallI know how to mount my floppy :) cooool )05:54
Heimdalllol05:54
rekarefuze2looze: only when it's active, which is why it's kind of pointless.05:54
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HajuuHey.05:54
HappyFoolHeimdall: bear in mind this will all be for naught when you get your adsl modem05:54
rekarefuze2looze: you should be able to start firefox through there though05:54
HajuuWhere can I check my modems flow control settings?05:54
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Heimdallyes05:54
HeimdallI take notes05:54
Heimdall:)05:54
jbroomethen you get to play with pppoe!  woohoo05:54
refuze2loozereka: ok.. i changed the keyboard shortcut to <mod4>P to see if it works, it worked, changed it back to XF86AudioPlay, and suddenly everything works.. i did absolutely nothing else.05:55
Hajuumodem/comport05:55
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refuze2loozereka: and BMP doesn't need to be active, so i suggest you try this method as well05:55
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refuze2loozereka: must have been some kind of bug. very strange05:56
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rekarefuze2looze: i'm not desperate to use them, but it might be useful... could you please explain the method?05:56
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HajuuWhere can I check my modems flow control settings?05:56
Hajuumodem/comport05:56
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hondjeanyone get firestarter and dict to play nice?05:57
HeimdallHappyFool : ok have decompressed the driver with gzip, now what ? this is not a deb file05:57
HappyFoolHeimdall: indeed05:57
Heimdall:/05:58
HappyFoolHeimdall: just a sec05:58
Heimdalllol05:58
HappyFoolHeimdall: how big is the download?05:58
thoreauputichondje: try test.dict.org05:58
Heimdall2.2M uncompressed05:58
thoreauputichondje: the default dict URL is wrong now05:58
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Heimdall224256005:59
HappyFoolHeimdall: ok, i'm downloading it now05:59
HappyFoolHeimdall: does it have a readme?05:59
HappyFoolerk05:59
thoreauputichondje: I set an alias for it in .bashrc as well as in th egnome dict thing05:59
hondjethoreauputic: oh, thanks man05:59
hondjeisn't there /etc/dict.conf?05:59
hondjeno :o05:59
thoreauputichondje: working?05:59
Heimdallhum when I decompress it, it removes the '.gz' and thats all06:00
HeimdallM file06:00
HappyFoolHeimdall: try 'tar xf slmodem-2.9.10.tar06:00
hondjethoreauputic: like a champ, thanks man06:00
HappyFoolHeimdall: you can extract directly from tar.gz's with 'tar xzf slmodem-2.9.10.tar.gz06:00
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thoreauputic:D06:00
Heimdallritgh06:00
Heimdallright06:00
Heimdallthis was a tar file I just sazw it with 'file' command06:01
ekCoanyone know how to update drivers etc withouth having the ubuntu cd06:01
ekCoi lost it06:01
HappyFoolHeimdall: it should create an sl-modem directory, or perhaps sl-modem-2.9.10 directory06:01
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ekCoand cant get nvidia drivers installed06:01
rekaquestion: anyone know of a good offline dictionary?  something like this: http://wordweb.info/more.html06:01
Heimdallyes indeed06:01
Heimdalland there is a README06:02
HappyFoolHeimdall: ah-ha06:02
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ekCoanyone know how to update drivers etc withouth having the ubuntu cd???06:02
ivanoxekCo, use the repos06:02
HeimdallHappyFool : seems to be much easier06:02
rekaekCo: you shouldn't need the cd if you have a net connection. just get everything you need in the repos.06:02
HappyFoolHeimdall: sort of06:02
refuze2loozereka: sure.. first you have to use xev to see the key codes of the multimedia keys, then you use xmodmap -pke xmodmap.conf to create the default configuration, you might need to add key bindings to the configuration file to the keycodes you found in xev. then open up configuration-editor and go to /apps/metacity/global_keybindings, add what you mapped to the key codes to run_command_X, and in /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands add06:02
refuze2looze the command such as beep-media-player -t for play/pause06:02
refuze2loozereka: oh and you should copy the configuration file to /etc/xmodmap.conf and use the command xmodmap /etc/xmodmap.conf to get em to work06:03
HappyFoolHeimdall: you'll need to recompile the driver every time you update the kernel06:03
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ekCohow reka?06:03
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ivanoxekCo, go here www.ubuntuguide.org and get their repolist, but dont use the us.archive. replace it with like de.archive06:03
HappyFoolHeimdall: try just running 'make' and 'sudo make install' as suggested in the README06:03
vince_I'm using hotway to have evolution check my hotmail account, but wish to have it mark downloaded messages as read. Can anyone tell me wht file I need to edit and how? thanks!06:03
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HeimdallI'm doing it06:04
rekaivanox: or better yet, just archive.com iirc06:04
Heimdalllaunching gcc ;)06:04
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VarangerIA-32 = i386 ???06:04
Heimdallseems cool06:04
HappyFoolHeimdall: yeah, the instructions are pretty clear06:04
HeimdallHappyFool : ok I've made it06:05
Heimdalldo you think that's all ?06:05
mikasi was just wondering.. how come it is easier to type exactly three question marks rather than one...06:05
hondjeIA-32?!06:05
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hondjeOh man, this is all getting too confusing :)06:05
HappyFoolHeimdall: 'sudo make install' etc -- follow the instructions in the README06:05
SeveasVaranger, yes06:05
ekCoreka, already done all that06:05
ekCobut its asking me for cs06:05
ekCocd*06:05
lancer285Hey, where do I get the libdvdcss?06:05
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TokenBadok question06:06
rekamikas: how come it's easier to type three dots rather than a question mark? :-p06:06
TokenBadif I want to mount a drive06:06
TokenBadand make it so that the drive is usable for all people06:06
thoreauputicekCo: comment out the CD line in /etc/apt/sources.list and update06:06
HappyFoollancer285: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats tells you how, afaik06:06
ekCok06:06
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lancer285Thanks HappyFool06:06
HeimdallHappyFool : yes I'm at config country06:06
ekCoum there isnt any about the cs..06:07
ekCocd*06:07
TokenBadwhat is the should it be set as owned by root?06:07
ekCoyou mean add a # to the top?06:07
thoreauputicekCo: there must be, or it wouldn't ask - at the top06:07
HappyFoolHeimdall: is it working?06:07
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ekCodeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release amd64 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted to #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release amd64 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted06:07
ekCo?06:07
thoreauputicekCo: then do sudo apt-get update afterwards06:07
HeimdallI'm not sure to understand the command06:07
BockBilbohey there06:07
thoreauputicekCo: that's the line, yes06:08
ekCook06:08
BockBilbowhats the way to adding an iso locale to the system?06:08
HajuuWhere can I check my modems flow control settings? I think theres a problem with it because when I run an application that accesses the internet (with my connection activated through "pon"), it takes every last scrap of bandwidth possible.. causing problems with both my IRC and gAIM connections...06:08
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HappyFoolHeimdall: which command?06:08
Heimdall6/06:08
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Heimdallto config modem country06:08
HappyFooloh, right06:09
NinwaDoes anybody know how to configure recording devices (microphone), I can hear myself talk into it over the speaker when the volume is up, but it doesn't record.06:09
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Hajuuhmm, Heimdall ?06:09
HappyFooltry slmodemd --countrylist06:09
Heimdallyes Hajuu ?06:09
cary[yaaawwwn] 06:09
HappyFoolor slmodemd --countrylist|grep -i france06:09
HappyFoolHeimdall: or just don't worry about it for now06:09
bob2Hajuu: how could that be related to modem flow control?06:10
Heimdallok I prefer don't worry so ;)))06:10
carypfp, what are the chances you are around?06:10
HeimdallHappyFool : so this is it06:10
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HappyFoolHeimdall: do the 'Getting started' instructions too06:10
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Heimdallyes, but for installation06:10
HappyFoolHeimdall: afaik06:10
HappyFoolHeimdall: you can probably tweak things so these commands are run on startup06:11
scottanyone have a T40 thinkpad? what do I need to do to get the hard drive to stop burning a hole in my case, have it suspend to ram when I close the lid?06:11
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azolhi all. how can I use "modem on hold" (v.92)  in Linux? is it possible?06:11
HeimdallI try06:11
HappyFoolhmm, i seem to have b0rked synaptic *sigh*06:11
ekCothanks guys.06:11
bob2scott: same as on any other laptop, edit /etc/default/acpi-support06:11
ekColater06:11
ompaulIs there such a beast as software that helps someone design model railways?06:11
abbot45does anyone else have a problem with Pan Newsreader crashing all the time?06:11
zorglubejoin/ #ubuntu-fr06:11
bob2scott: but at least some t40's don't sleep very well, due to the radeon not powering off06:11
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MausFlash on my system doesn't play with any sound.  Am I missing a package?06:12
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samuelanyone know how to access winpopup from linux? as in send messages? i dont want linpopup06:12
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thoreauputicompaul: interesting question: in open source I don't know - a friend has such a thing on his windows box06:12
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jbroomeMaus: i'd say that was a feature, not a bug. :)06:12
snadgecan someone give me a quick explanation of vga= options?06:13
ompaulthoreauputic, well if there is none I better learn to code one up rather fast and I have not seen that other one :-)06:13
apollo2011How do I check if the smb.conf doesn't have any errors in it like typos that will make it invalid?06:13
bob2Maus: no06:13
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mebaran151what's a muppet06:13
mebaran151I just saw it on the side06:13
thoreauputicompaul: nice project for you: write a model railway design program ;)06:13
snadgei've tried normal, and 778.. and normal gives me a corrupted console, and 778 gives me a horizontal bar in X06:13
bob2samuel: why don't you want linpopup?06:13
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bob2Maus: run "pkill esd", restart firefox, do you get sound?06:13
bob2apollo2011: try running samba06:13
samuelbob2, i dont want the messages poping up on my computer06:13
jbroomeapollo2011: testparm06:14
ompaulthoreauputic, well yeah thanks ;-)06:14
hondjeanyone use fetchyahoo w/ evolution?06:14
apollo2011jbroome: ok so just "testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf"?06:14
thoreauputicmebaran151: heh - google  " sesame street muppets" :)06:14
jbroomeapollo2011: i believe so06:14
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apollo2011cool thx06:14
Mausbob2: yes06:14
sproingiethoreauputic: better yet google "the muppet show"06:14
bob2Maus: cool06:14
thoreauputicsproingie: yeah, I'm out of date there ;)06:15
Mausbob2: What did we just do?06:15
ompaulsproingie, that last one was for mebaran15106:15
bob2Maus: kill the program that was using your sound card06:15
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LokeDKI've installed apache 1.3 with apt-get.. and the wwwroot is /var/www .. But as normal user I can't write to that directory.. I've added my user to the www-data group but I still don't have write access.. also maked sure to chmod it06:15
Mausbob2: Then what was that program using for to begin with, and will I have to do this every time I boot?06:15
apollo2011jbroome: it worked and said the file was fine but my Windows pc sees it ok and my other two ubuntu systems say there is an invalid parameter and won't load the shares...06:16
bob2LokeDK: www-data is the user apache runs as; it should never ever have write permissions to /var/www/06:16
sigwhat are the purposes of backports? can someone explain?06:16
HeimdallHappyFool :oooooh he does not want france :)06:16
bob2LokeDK: if you really want a user to have write access to /var/www/, chown it to their user06:16
HappyFoolHeimdall: i'm sorry? ;)06:16
bob2sig: to bring newer software to stable versions of ubuntu06:16
sigI see06:17
mebaran151thoreauputic, no06:17
HappyFoolsig: see here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4029106:17
mebaran151I know THE MUPPETS06:17
LokeDKbob2, Yeah I know.. it's chowned to root:www-data as default.. so I could chown it to f.ex loke:www-data ?06:17
thoreauputicsig: backports are new apps that impatient people can't wait 6 months for ;)06:17
sigbob2: so I should add it06:17
mebaran151just on my irc list06:17
mebaran151I have two "muppets" listed06:17
bob2Maus: kill firefox, does "esddsp mozilla-firefox" start firefox and have sound for flash?06:17
bob2sig: no06:17
rekasnadge: you can use vga=ask  or hardcode it with a value: http://gatos.sourceforge.net/livid-ati/2000-September/msg00206.html06:17
sig?06:17
bob2LokeDK: drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 2005-04-25 17:17 /var/www06:17
ompaulthoreauputic, and to think that all this hacker culture started with the model railway club in MIT hehe06:17
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bob2LokeDK: those are the defaults06:17
Heimdallsudo /usr/sbin/lmodmd --country=FRANCE /dev/slamr006:17
raiden24I love Ubuntu06:17
sigbob2: no? why not?06:17
hondjeompaul: model railways? Really?06:17
Heimdall=> bad country name :d06:17
abbot45can someone tell me how to install a .deb package?06:17
sproingiehacker culture predates computers06:17
HappyFoolHeimdall: you need a code i think06:17
bob2sig: because they're buggy06:17
LokeDKbob2, oh.. so loke:users would be fine?06:17
snadgereka: i dont have permission to access that url :/06:18
sigoh ok06:18
thoreauputicompaul: yet no-one has written such a program? tsk tsk06:18
bob2abbot45: what are you trying to install?06:18
kbrooksfr\06:18
HappyFoolHeimdall: try slmodemd --countrylist06:18
Heimdalloh, in the example they write USA06:18
LokeDKand apache would still work..06:18
bob2LokeDK: loke:root, yes06:18
ompaulhondje, I am not barking mad, (pun intented) it did in deed06:18
kbrooksHeimdall, fr06:18
rekasnadge: http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:Si2iYQwIsjEJ:mail.linux-sxs.org/pipermail/linux-users/2002-September/038107.html+framebuffers+1024x768+vga%3Dask&hl=en06:18
LokeDKbob2, oh okay thanks.. I'll try that06:18
kbrookstry fr06:18
Mausbob2: command not found06:18
bob2LokeDK: apache doesn't care who owns that directory, as long as it is readable by all06:18
ompaulhondje, indeed even06:18
abbot45Pan.  the version bundled with ubuntu keeps crashing.06:18
hondjeompaul: go figure....that explains a lot though06:18
bob2Maus: install esound-clients06:18
Heimdalloh yeah, 3d06:18
bob2abbot45: did you file a bug yet?06:18
Heimdallthanks06:18
HappyFoolHeimdall: try slmodemd --country=3d mayne?06:18
abbot45dont know how.  can you tell me?06:18
hondjeompaul: Maybe that's why 'hacker culture' doesn't emphasize math so much06:18
HappyFoolHeimdall: so this is more-or-less working?06:19
LokeDKbob2, Oh I see.. I can write to it now. Thanks for the help06:19
Heimdallsudo /usr/sbin/lmodmd --country=3d /dev/slamr006:19
bob2LokeDK: np06:19
HappyFoolHeimdall: slmodemd, i think06:19
HappyFool/usr/sbin/slmodemd06:19
Mausbob2: ok, the command loaded firefox06:19
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Mausbob2: without sound06:20
bob2hm, oh well06:20
Heimdallanyway, this is not so important I suppose ?06:20
HappyFoolHeimdall: nah06:20
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HappyFoolHeimdall: so modprobe worked, and slmodemd is running?06:21
Heimdallok so I'm in 3 section06:21
LokeDKOh and one more question.. the php4 package in synaptic/apt-get requires some apache2 packages.. Does the package only work on apache2 then? I only want apache 1.306:21
TokenBadok i unmounted my drive06:21
bob2LokeDK: no, of course not06:21
TokenBadto maybe change who owns it06:21
rekaabbot45: install the latest pan manually06:21
Heimdallmodem slamr0 created TTy is /dev/pts/206:22
bob2LokeDK: libapache-mod-php4 - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 1.3 module)06:22
Heimdalluse /dev/ttySL0 as modem device06:22
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HappyFoolHeimdall: ok, so try out your gnome network thingy again06:22
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HappyFoolHeimdall: maybe you can just start it and see if there's a 'click' sound, without plugging in the telephone cord06:22
Heimdallthis is it ?06:22
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Heimdallyes06:23
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LokeDKbob2, oh cool.. so apache2-common and apache2-mpm-prefork isn't the whole apache2 server?06:23
HappyFoolHeimdall: this is it06:23
LokeDKas it requires06:23
thoreauputicHappyFool: Heimdall this slmodem thing sounds like a PITA to configure...06:23
Heimdallsorry, PITA ?06:23
HappyFoolthoreauputic: yeah06:23
iratsuhow do i find out what X display depth i'm running at and what graphics drivers i'm running with?06:23
bob2LokeDK: php doesn't care about either of those packages06:23
HappyFoolthoreauputic: winmodems are a joy06:23
HappyFoolheh06:23
rekaabbot45: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/06:23
HappyFoolpain in the arse ;)06:23
thoreauputicHeimdall: pain in the *ss06:23
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LokeDKoh okay bob2 .. thanks a lot again06:24
Heimdalllol06:24
Mausbob2: killing esd again brings it back, what exactly did we install and why?06:24
Heimdallokay :-D06:24
bob2Maus: nevermind06:24
hellfirehas someone installe Neverwinter Nights on Ubuntu06:24
HappyFoolHeimdall's getting 8Mb adsl next week anyway :P06:24
HeimdallHappyFool :I have very bad thought06:24
hellfirecopied a windows instalation06:25
HappyFoolsome of us are stuck with dial-up06:25
iratsuhellfire: wow my friend is just doing that right now06:25
HappyFoolHeimdall: what's that?06:25
hellfireand did what was described in the bioware site06:25
sproingiehow's NWN run on linux anyway?06:25
bob2Maus: esd = enlightened sound daemon = program which takes control of the sound card and brokers access to it06:25
HeimdallHappyFool : well ,with the previous driver, it was telling me too that the device was ttySL006:25
NinwaLast I heard WineX ran it great.06:25
sproingiei've always found NWN to have pretty poor framerates compared to most 3d games06:25
hellfirei get "segmentation fault " error06:25
bob2Maus: by killing it, non-esd-aware programs can use the sound card, but only one at a time06:25
Heimdalland I was puttin ttyS006:26
HappyFoolHeimdall: yes...06:26
Heimdall....06:26
Mausbob2:  ahhh06:26
HappyFoolHeimdall: doh06:26
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Heimdalllol06:26
Heimdallit is not my fault entirely06:26
thoreauputicbob2: the irony of the name "enlightened sound daemon" strikes me all the time...06:26
Frederickhow can I get mosml int ubuntu/06:26
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hellfiredoes someone now how to fix that error06:26
DunkMasterhelo06:26
HappyFoolHeimdall: that might explain the 'no carrier' ;)06:26
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bob2hah06:26
DunkMasterquestion here06:26
HappyFoolHeimdall: i thought you were using /dev/modem ?06:26
sproingiei thought esd wasn't required when using the alsa mixer?06:26
bob2in 1997 or whatever, it seemed like a good idea06:26
bob2sproingie: when using dmix, correct06:26
rekairatsu: default depth can be found in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, (Section "Screen": DefaultDepth) same with the driver (Section "Device": Driver)06:26
HeimdallHappyFool : ah yes you're right06:27
DunkMasterwhat is a good and low on recources movie player avaliable on apt-get?06:27
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sproingiebob2: so why do people continue to use esd?06:27
Heimdalland /dev/modem is pointing toward the correct device...06:27
Ninwareka, Run xorconfig06:27
FrederickDunkMaster: xmms06:27
Heimdallso okay...06:27
thoreauputicsproingie: this is a good question06:27
St0n3-C0lmy xorg is crashing ..06:27
Ninwareka, and setup your xorg settings properly :)06:27
bob2sproingie: but that requires a) a sound card well supported by alsa, and b) everything to use alsa (any apps using the oss compatibility layer will lock the device to themselves completely)06:27
DunkMasterxmms plays movie files Frederic?06:27
Ninwaxorgconfig*06:27
DunkMaster*Frederick06:27
rekaNinwa: mine are fine.06:27
sproingiebob2: but wouldnt that be true whether or not esd is running?06:27
St0n3-C0lwhen I start it says not starting correctly...it was workin correctly before I installed gdm from breezy :P06:28
hellfirehas someone managed to deal with the "segmentation fault" error in Neverwinter Nights06:28
hellfire??06:28
Ninwahellfire, That's a pretty vague question.06:28
FrederickDunkMaster: not sure, goggle and check their homepage06:28
bob2hellfire: if you're using cedega, #cedega06:28
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HeimdallHappyFool :can I type ttySL0 ?06:28
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hellfireno i`m not using cedega06:28
DunkMasterit isnt i just tried Frederick06:28
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snadgereka: does ubuntu _have_ to use framebuffer console?06:28
zimba-tmhello06:28
HappyFoolHeimdall: you mean, in the gnome setup?06:28
bob2sproingie: yeah, but most everything in ubuntu's supported section does esd06:28
hellfirei`m using the Linx client06:28
snadgei tried setting a normal vga text mode, and it ignores it06:28
Heimdallyes06:28
HappyFoolHeimdall: /dev/ttySL0 should work06:28
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sproingiebob2: well that's annoying06:28
bob2sproingie: also, esd works on more cards and dmix06:28
linux_fanhi can anyone help me?06:29
bob2sproingie: yes, and will be fixed for hoary06:29
Heimdallbecause the programm tells me that the symbolic link is /dev/pts/206:29
bob2er, breezy06:29
hellfirei`ve done what was described in the bioware site06:29
rekasnadge: ah, you don't want a wm?06:29
bob2linux_fan: you need to ask a question, first06:29
sproingiebob2: so esd can sit on top of alsa, essentially?06:29
Ninwalinux_fan, ask your question, dont ask to ask :] 06:29
HappyFoolHeimdall: whatever slmodemd said when you started it06:29
linux_fanok06:29
sproingiebob2: you mean breezy?06:29
bob2sproingie: yes06:29
hellfirebut i get "segmentation erro" when trying to run the game06:29
Heimdallso I think this is ttySL0 or /dev/pts/206:29
bob2hellfire: do you know anything about programming?06:29
hellfireno06:29
bob2(in C)06:29
linux_fanfor some reason, i installed a program, and it doesn't show up in the applications menu06:29
Heimdallanyway, it don't detect the modem on his own06:29
HappyFoolHeimdall: don't use /dev/pts/206:29
Heimdallok06:29
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HappyFoolHeimdall: use /dev/ttySL006:29
sproingiehellfire: you mean segmentation fault.  that's a very generic error, it's like the Invalid Page Fault from win9x06:29
rekaisn't quicktime available for linux?06:30
Ninwahellfire, Are you certain you installed it correctly? Mayhaps you do not have all of the datafiles in the right place, and its segging because of that06:30
reka*why isn't06:30
Ninwahellfire, but as they said, thats a pretty generic thing, you need to check the crash log06:30
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bob2reka: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:30
snadgereka: X can use its own driver.. console should use text mode06:30
bob2reka: (it is)06:30
unrealubuntu download at 84% :)06:30
linux_fanfor some reason, i installed a program, and it doesn't show up in the applications menu06:30
hellfirei didn`t get any error messages or something similar...06:30
Ninwalinux_fan, Which application?06:30
bob2linux_fan: yes, that will happen06:30
snadgeunreal, hoary hedgehog?06:30
Mausbob2:  Thanks for the help.06:30
HeimdallHappyFool : aaaaaah06:30
Ninwalinux_fan, try opening a terminal and typing its name, or creating a launcher on your launch panel06:30
bob2Maus: np06:30
hellfirei`ve read that this could be connected with the SDL library06:30
unrealsnadge: forgot which nickname, but it's 5.0406:30
HappyFoolHeimdall: something wirking ?06:30
linux_fani can open it in terminal06:30
iratsureka: ok, thanks06:30
HeimdallHappyFool : good news06:31
bob2Maus: running it under esddsp should have forced it to shore the device06:31
linux_fanbut how do i get it in the menu?06:31
hellfirethey advised to get the latest version06:31
Ninwalinux_fan, right click on the lanucher panel and create a new launcher06:31
HeimdallHappyFool : no06:31
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HeimdallBUT06:31
rekabob2: poorly worded ... why isn't quicktime player availale for linux?06:31
snadgeunreal, yeah thats the one that im trying on my old compaq armada m700 laptop.. it kinda works ;)06:31
linux_fanok06:31
HappyFoolHeimdall: heh06:31
Heimdallit tells me that it does not work06:31
Ninwaadd to panel*06:31
linux_fanok06:31
hellfirebut i see only version 1.2.7 for ubuntu06:31
bob2reka: because apple didn't port it yet06:31
Mausbob2: but it went right back to how things were before killing06:31
iratsuhow do i find out what graphics drivers i'm running with?06:31
Ninwathen custom06:31
Heimdallwhich is a kind of progress06:31
bob2Maus: which is odd, I don't know why06:31
thoreauputicreka: erm - ask Apple?06:31
HappyFoolHeimdall: erm, ok06:31
Ninwaand you should be able to figure it ou t:)06:31
bob2iratsu: /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:31
linux_fanyea06:31
hellfirewhlie the latest version is 1.2.806:31
linux_fanthank u06:31
unrealsnadge: heh, the hardware in this machine hasn't had much luck with gentoo or debian.. so I decided to download ubuntu06:31
Ninwayou're welcome06:31
HappyFoolHeimdall: you going to try plugging in your phone line and see what happens?06:31
HeimdallI think it could maybe be ok if I try with my phone line06:31
Heimdallyes06:31
HappyFoolHeimdall: ok06:32
snadgeunreal, chances are.. it'll suck just as much ;)06:32
Heimdallat last06:32
Heimdallone real hope06:32
HappyFoolHeimdall: good luck (again ;)06:32
Heimdall:)06:32
Heimdallyes06:32
Heimdalllol06:32
Heimdallbrb (again :-D)06:32
unrealsnadge: gentoo borks when trying to boot normally, and the debian partition manager just hangs there when checking for disks06:32
unrealheh06:32
Mausbob2: Know if anything relevant to this will be coming in Breezy?06:32
unrealprobably, but at least I'll be able to try it on a machine that I know it'll work with :)06:32
snadgeunreal, ouch.. what kind of a piece of crap are you running it on? :P06:32
lpkHmm there was a trick for improving the sampling rate of a mouse06:32
lpkDoes anyone remember?06:32
rekabob2, thoreauputic: i see.  it's just that i like how you can "scroll" video playback using the arrow keys. ah, well.06:32
bob2Maus: yes, it should all magically work in breezy (but doesn't yet)06:32
bob2reka: as in skip backwards and forwards?06:33
thoreauputicreka: you can do that ith linux players too...06:33
rekasnadge: not sure ... i'm not an expert on that06:33
Mausbob2:  Really?  Good.  I want to be sure everything's working properly before I start installing Ubuntu for friends and family.06:33
rekathoreauputic: smoothly though? not in 5 second bursts06:33
bob2Maus: october it is then ;p06:33
Mausbob2: w00t06:33
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unrealsnadge: lol, wouldn't say it's crap, but it's one of those pre-built bundled machines that I got given.. it still has a warranty so I don't feel like ripping it apart yet06:33
thoreauputicreka: I haven't tried that, to be honest06:33
Mausbob2: thanks again06:34
snadgeunreal: ahh yeah.. it'll have a bodgey partition table on it most likely06:34
bob2np06:34
Frederickhow can I install mosml in ubuntu and FAST?06:34
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rekabob2: well it's more sort of "play forwards" and "play backwards", rather than "skip"  which is what i would prefer.06:34
unrealsnadge: nah, I wiped the drives entirely :)06:34
snadgeunreal, if it came with a rescue disk.. i'd just blow everything away and repartition it06:34
snadgeahh k06:34
unrealheh06:34
FrederickIve already tried to apt it but it says it has some missing deps06:34
bob2reka: meh, seems kinda minor; you could suggest ut to the mplayer people06:35
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unrealat the moment i'm booting off the gentoo livecd, not the best way to download a large-ish ISO file :)06:35
Converseirc.cl06:35
scottI ran laptop-mode start and changed /etc/default/acpi-support to include sleep, but I still just see hibernate on my logout menu and when I close the lid it doesn't go to sleep06:35
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thoreauputicreka: frankly I prefer vlc on OS-X to quicktime anyway - and it doesn't nag me to buy anything ;)06:35
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rekabob2: not a fan of mplayer really... but enough of my grumbling06:35
sproingiethoreauputic: you're kidding, quicktime even nags you on OSX?06:35
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rekathoreauputic: true. :-)06:35
snadgeim booting ubuntu off dvd at the moment.. and using it as a very slow rescue disc to fix my debian installation ;)06:35
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Frederickhow can I install mosml in ubuntu and FAST?06:35
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thoreauputicsproingie: yep - the one installed is nagware06:36
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rekathoreauputic: i thought you get pro with the os?06:36
bob2Frederick: why don't you tell us what on earth "mosml" is?06:36
unrealsnadge: heh, I'll be downloading that some other time, downloading at 46kb/s is bad enough right now :)06:36
thoreauputicreka: I didn't06:36
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sproingiethoreauputic: amazing.  i thought that was just some sleazy thing they did for the windows version06:36
snadgeunreal: I donwnloaded the dvd at about 12k/s :P06:36
Frederickbob2: http://www.dina.kvl.dk/~sestoft/mosml.html06:36
sensCan anyone help me install a gkrellm skin?06:37
unrealsnadge: that's fine if you're wanting to get it installed by the end of the year :P06:37
bob2sens: it really had no instructions?06:37
ompaulthoreauputic, checked sourceforge.net (been a long time since I needed to do that) and found something06:37
snadgetook about 4 days06:37
thoreauputicsproingie: well, I hardly ever use OS-X anyway except in mac-on-linux to play windows media occasionally06:37
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sensbob2: I just can't find where to extract the files to06:37
thoreauputicompaul: ah - model railways are not totally neglected then ? :)06:37
rcec52I was wondering why Ubuntu repository is slow to update Mozilla Firefox 1.4 as I understand 1.2 is supposed to be 1.4 with some program bugs?06:38
bob2rcec52: it's not "slow", it's not going to happen at all06:38
rcec52Whys that?06:38
ompaulthoreauputic, almost not neglected I think I will have to build something for dia06:38
thoreauputicrcec52: the ubuntu version has all the security fixes06:38
rem_they correct the bugs, but dont update to 1.4 ..06:38
bob2rcec52: hoary is a stable release; it doesn't get new versions of software.  the fixes from 1.0.4 are in hoary's 1.0.206:38
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thoreauputicompaul: yes, dia is a good idea for it :)06:39
rekaompaul: i love dia06:39
cory_yay i finally got my gnomebaker to bake!06:39
rcec52You lost me. . .06:39
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styx2004please tell me how to configure apache with mono-apache-server06:39
bob2rcec52: which bit of that was confusing?06:39
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Frederickbob2: dis you see my link?06:40
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thoreauputicrcec52: you are hung up on the version number: ubuntu's is updated06:40
rcec52If you use the version that you download with the repositories, you can't add Mozilla extensions.06:40
bob2Frederick: yes; try asking on their mailing list, I guess, or install from their binary tarballs.06:40
thoreauputicrcec52: it just retains the number06:40
bob2rcec52: yes, it sucks that mozilla have made things like that06:40
rekarcec52: that's a bug06:40
bionicsafe to put in a pci soundcard while the machine is still running? :p06:40
unrealheh06:40
abbot45rcec52, there was a bad vonurability in 1.4 so ubuntu backported to 1.2 but included all the bug fixes from 1.406:40
rcec52I've installed 1.04 with all the extensions and it works . . . .06:40
unrealsafe to chop off your leg while you're still alive? ;)06:40
thoreauputicrcec52: go to about:config, search for vendor string and edit to 1.0.406:41
rekarcec52: you have to change vendorSub in about:config iirc06:41
flodineanyone know how to change aterm font size06:41
jbroomejust once06:41
Frederickbob2: ive added the repos her06:41
bob2Frederick: which is broken.  get rid of it.06:41
sproingieubuntu's handling of firefox version numbers is ... unique06:41
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sproingiethat's the kindest thing i can say about it06:41
Frederickbob2: but apt is beeing gay and complaining06:41
Frederickbob2: the dep is broken06:41
rcec52Anyone here have more than 1 os installed?06:41
sproingieFrederick: so find apt a partner, maybe he can go live with aptitude06:42
Frederickrcec52: I do06:42
unreal25mins to go until I find Ubuntu borks for me too :P06:42
bob2Frederick: a) try to act like an adult, b) that means you can't install from it06:42
thoreauputicrcec52: of course06:42
bob2Frederick: so go get the tarball and install from that06:42
sproingiewhat the fuck is it that a supposedly intellectual community uses "gay" as an insult06:42
bob2sproingie: what else could ubuntu do?06:42
hondjesproingie: I don't know, but I agree it's wrong06:42
rcec52Maybe I'm crazy but I've got Mepis on one drive and Kubuntu on another? Doesn't make sense does it?06:42
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hondjeWhy not say 'omg, _____ is so female' too06:42
Fredericksproingie: oh sorry06:42
Fredericksproingie: im in a hurry06:43
St0n3-C0lPlease respect Code OF Conduct of Ubuntu Linux :>06:43
HappyFoolsproingie: how can a supposedly intellectual person judge a community by an individual ? ;)06:43
St0n3-C0lSomeone said me once...now im saying u guys :P06:43
sproingieHappyFool: i see it over and over06:43
FrederickHappyFool: point taken06:43
bob2sproingie: ubutnu has unfortunately attracted a large pre-teen contingent06:43
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unrealsnadge: you still around? :)06:43
sproingiebob2: i suppose that's true for the whole geek/hacker culture as well06:43
iratsuwhat's the difference between restricted and multiverse?06:43
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rcec52Anyone here good at programing?06:44
snadgeunreal: yes06:44
sproingiercec52: some of us like to think so06:44
unrealheh06:44
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rcec52What are you using?06:44
unrealyou have any idea why ubuntu 5.04 was given a name similair to prostitute?06:44
bob2iratsu: restricted is just drivers, basically06:44
veronicaim setting up raid and i get a adm:error opening /dev/md0  nosuch file or directory.......please help!06:44
HappyFoolheh06:44
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bob2unreal: #lame-trolls, kthxbye06:44
iratsubob2: ah, ok06:44
unrealbob2: is that your channel? :)06:44
bob2iratsu: but it does get "support"06:44
sproingieunreal: c'mon, hoary ... read your hp lovecraft06:44
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bob2haha06:45
JesterDoes anyone know of a debian-based installation cd or distribution that includes dmraid ? (to support bios based software raids such as nforce3)06:45
ThE__OnEwhere can i find installation help for ubunntu06:45
rcec52Breezy comes out in October?06:45
sensExtraction not performed You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/usr/share/themes/AgingGorilla/metacity-1"   How do I extract it through the terminal?06:45
bob2rcec52: yes06:45
ThE__OnEwhere can i find installation help for ubuntu*06:45
bob2ThE__OnE: by asking politely here06:45
snadgeunreal, thats a good question.. i'd like to know that too.. apart from it really does suck on my laptop06:45
rcec52What will it include?06:45
unreallol06:45
HappyFoolsproingie: maybe 6.04 will be the 'Cuddly Cthulhu' (err, spelling?) release!06:45
ThE__OnEi did ask politely06:45
scottanyone know what file you have to setuid to be able to change clock speed as normal user with gnome applet?06:45
thoreauputicunreal: dict hoary06:45
bob2ThE__OnE: you haven't asked a question yet...06:45
ThE__OnEyes i have06:45
sproingieHappyFool: you spelled it right.  great idea :)06:45
unrealit's a nice name though, never thought a hedgehog could be a whore though, too prickly for my liking :)06:45
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snadgeunreal, it should be called "hoary slapper"06:46
bob2rcec52: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals06:46
snadge:P06:46
rekasens: use sudo.  you normally don't have write permission for any folders other than the ones in ~/06:46
bob2ThE__OnE: and what did you ask?06:46
sproingiestill, pronouncing "hoary" out loud makes most people think of a different word06:46
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sproingienot too literate, folk these days06:46
ThE__OnEcan someone please tell me where(website)i can find help instaling, i dont have a specific question because i have'nt installed ubuntu as of yet06:46
rcec52Thanks bob206:46
sproingieThE__OnE: right HERE06:46
bob2ThE__OnE: you can ask for help here06:46
sensreka: sorry, i only installed 2 weeks ago and after 15 years of windows i'm not too good, i know the sudo, you generally put it in front of everything, but what would i have to type exactly?06:46
hondjesproingie: That's for the 12-15 demographic :)06:46
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sproingieThE__OnE: you can also try ubuntu forums06:46
ThE__OnEhmm i cant come here when iam instaling06:47
veronicaim setting up raid and i get a adm:error opening /dev/md0  nosuch file or directory.......please help!06:47
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ZuninoHi there. Does anybody here deal with typing a latin language on a US-layout keyboard?06:47
ThE__OnElol06:47
erbhello06:47
rcec52Anybody have problems installing Adobe reader7.0?06:47
rekasens: easy option: sudo nautilus06:47
sensok06:47
rekasens: otherwise, i'd have to know what kind or archive file it is06:47
Frederickbob2: im trying the tarball06:47
sensreka: thanks06:47
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sproingieThE__OnE: i used to come to the channel when installing all the time.  you going to say you can surf the forums when installing?06:47
ZuninoI have got it working for the most part. The real issue is with typing a ''06:47
reka*kind of06:47
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thoreauputicrcec52: no, because I didn't install it on the principle that Adobe sucks as a company06:48
ThE__OnEi dont have 2 pc's06:48
rekasens: hang on06:48
rekasens: you can install themes by dragging the file to the theme box iirc06:48
ThE__OnEnvm, i will search online06:48
sproingieThE__OnE: the installer does not have a built-in web browser that i'm aware of.  i did it with many a reboot on a dual-boot system06:48
rekasens: archives included06:48
rekasens: non need to extract it06:48
ThE__OnEdoes that mean i haev to do that?06:48
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thoreauputictime to sleep - 'night all06:48
bob2good idea06:48
ThE__OnEgnite06:48
rcec52That's not an answer I was expecting I guess . . .06:48
ZuninoUS layout with dead keys, anyone?06:48
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HeimdallHappyFool : :'(06:49
veronicacan anyone here help me with a raid issue?06:49
snadgehow do i boot ubuntu in console mode only?06:49
snadgelike a rescue disk mode.. without X06:49
rekarcec52: hehe.  what's wrong with xpdf?06:49
unrealsproingie: what's the best way to trim nose hair?06:49
unrealheh, jk ;)06:49
digaohey, how can i add new items to the ubuntu menu?06:49
bob2rcec52: if your real question was "I'm having problem foo bar baz when installing Acrbate 7.0...", best to just ask that upfront06:49
sproingieunreal: blowtorch.  it'll never bother you again06:49
unreallol06:49
rcec52Sorry for asking. . .06:49
rekadigao: google smeg06:49
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sproingieseriously, don't get too close to a propane torch when you have the sniffles.06:50
sproingieone good sniffff and ... ow06:50
sproingieclears ya right up tho06:50
Razor-X;)06:50
Razor-XJumping Jacks do too06:50
sensreka: how do i do that, you may as well be speaking swahili I don't understand :P06:51
Seveassnadge, choose recovery mode from the boot menu06:51
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snadgeseveas: what recovery mode06:51
rekasens: sys->prefs->themes06:51
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rekasens: and then, iirc, just drag the .gz file to the box06:52
Seveassnadge, when you boot, you get a menu. You can choose recovery mode there. If you do not get a menu edit /boot/grub/menu.lst as root and increase the value for timeout06:52
snadgeSeveas, i have a menu.. its the dvd version of hoary06:52
snadgefrom the help screens i just cant figure out what option to use06:52
Seveasah, ok. I thought you ment an installed system06:52
Seveasmeant*06:52
naliothreka ya teaching foreign languages now?06:52
snadgeSeveas, no.. installed system is borked, i want to recover data off it06:53
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sensreka: Do you mean I can just load up to sudo nauticus and drag the file over?06:53
rekanalioth: only swahili06:53
digaoreka, ill look for it thanks06:53
rekasens: don't even need to use sudo06:53
Frederickdoes ubuntu has bzip vy default?06:53
snadgeand the live version.. is also borked, keeps crashing .. display doesnt work correctly ;)06:53
sensreka: gottit i think06:53
Seveassnadge, I have no experience with the live dvd, but if there is a menu that says "single" or "recovery mode" you can use that to not go to X06:53
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unrealsnadge: you could just mount the disk and copy it elsewhere? :)06:53
rekasens: it worked?06:53
snadgeunreal: its in a laptop06:53
unrealcopy 1mb chunks to a floppy disk? :/06:54
sensreka: nope06:54
sensI went to: usr/share/themes created a file called milk and extracted it all to there06:54
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sensreka: but then i go to gkrellm and change themes and it doesn't come up06:55
snadgeim hoping it accepts "single" as a boot option06:55
snadgeand doesnt try to boot into X06:55
rekasens: ah, gkrellm themes?  i thought you were talking about gnome06:55
unrealsnadge: if all else fails, you could try another livecd (the gentoo one is pretty decent from my experience) and upload the data somewhere06:56
crimsunFrederick: yes.06:56
sensnono, gkrellm themes06:56
snadgeunreal: i have some boot floppies06:56
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rekasens: why didn't you say so? :-P http://www.dersoldat.org/gkrellm.php06:57
rekafollow that.06:57
pfpFabian: lo, how're things?06:57
pnpa_i tried to install Ubuntu in my Gateway/server. This gateway is connected to LAN with a 20+ clients. What is the best way/tool to share/broadcast the Internet connection of this Gateway? That will automatically assign an IP address to clients.06:57
snadgerescue linux or something06:57
Frederickcrimsun: doesnt looks like thou06:57
HappyFoolHeimdall: success?06:57
crimsunFrederick: erm, dpkg -l libbz2-1.0|grep ^ii06:58
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pfppnpa_: you probably want dhcpd, and some iptables rules06:58
crimsunFrederick: are you trying to compile something that requires bzip2?06:58
sensreka: I did :P06:58
pnpa_pfp, how to do that ? it was just my first time to install and seen Linux06:58
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crimsunFrederick: if so, you need to install libbz2-dev06:58
rekasens: and?06:59
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Frederickcrimsun: tryin to unzip a package06:59
sensreka: what does ~/.gkrellm2/themes directory mean06:59
rekasens: ~ is your home directory06:59
crimsunFrederick: unzip or bunzip2?06:59
sensthe ~/.gkrellm2?06:59
LinuxJonespnpa_, maybe you would be better off with a Linux distribution that is designed for such a purpose like Smoothwall06:59
sensreka: ok06:59
Frederickcrimsun: unzip06:59
snadgeBG Rescue linux06:59
crimsunFrederick: then install unzip.07:00
crimsunFrederick: unzip != bunzip207:00
sproingieSmoothwall++07:00
sensreka: if i go to home, there isn't a file called .gkrellm2 or a folder07:00
LinuxJonespnpa_, it has a nice gui for configuration >> http://www.smoothwall.org/about/screenshots/07:00
rekasens: type ls -a and look for a gkrellm directory07:01
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pfppnpa_: do an 'sudo apt-get install dhcpd', the default configuration has handy examples (are you familiar with dhcp?)07:01
pnpa_LinuxJones, u mean i have to uninstall this Ubuntu ?07:01
pnpa_pfp, in Windows07:01
sensnothing, it just comes up with my username07:01
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pfppnpa_: windows?07:01
sensreka: nothing it just comes up with my username07:01
rekasens: type cd ~07:02
rekathen do ls -a07:02
pnpa_i only know about dhcp in Windows07:02
sensfound it07:02
LinuxJonespnpa_, well it would be much easier than setting up all of the services you need manually using Ubuntu.07:02
rekasens: what's it called?07:02
senswell there's a -gkrellm207:03
pfppnpa_: there are also firewall distros that boot from a cd and can keep their configuration on a floppy, so you don't need to install anything... but nothing wrong with using ubuntu imho07:03
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sensreka: there's a -gkrellm207:03
pfppnpa_: ach, k07:03
rekasens: try putting ~/-gkrellm2 in the nautilus address bar07:03
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sensreka: it doesn't have an address bar07:04
veronicacan anyone here help me with a raid issue?07:04
rekasens: right click on a directory and then select browse07:04
ShishIs there a GUI app that lets you run a single program in a different locale?07:04
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sensreka: Couldn't find "/root/-gkrellm2".07:05
Razor-XShish: you mean, different language?07:05
Razor-Xveronica: shoot07:05
rekasens: cause you used sudo07:05
digaoreka, you know a repository with the smeg package? i didn't find it in the www.apt-get.org, thanks07:05
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HansZhmm.. I just wanted to compile mplayer, however it says: 'bitypes.h not found see...FAQ (nothing in the faq about that)'07:05
rekasens: type /home/<username>/-gkrellm207:06
HeimdallHappyFool : sorry, phone07:06
Razor-Xdigao: sudo apt-cache search smeg07:06
Heimdallno.... it has failed07:06
rekadigao, Razor-X : it's not in there iirc07:06
ShishYes~ When logging in with GDM I can select a language for all of GNOME to use, but I'd rather log in in english then have specific apps in other languages07:06
rekaneed to install it manually07:06
HansZIs there a ubuntu mplayer package?07:06
ExodusHello, can anyone tell me where is the ubuntu cd distribution located?07:07
Razor-Xthen, download and compile ;)07:07
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Razor-XShish: not sure how, sorry07:07
lpkwhat is fbmmx.o?07:07
Razor-XExodus: they give you links on the site07:07
lpkmy x cries about missing symbols07:07
HeimdallHappyFool : and worst, i have uninstall, make clean, and do ti again07:07
sensreka: same message07:07
digaoRazor-X, reka, yeah, i didn't find the smeg in the apt-cache too07:07
veronicaim setting up raid and i get a adm:error opening /dev/md0  nosuch file or directory.......please help!07:07
HeimdallHappyFool : but it does not want to do 'modprobe slamr' anymore07:07
Razor-Xlpk: not sure meself, google it07:07
ExodusRazor-X, i mean physical location07:07
lpkPain in the ass googling with a elinks07:07
Razor-Xdigao: download a binary .deb, or download source and compile07:07
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Razor-XExodus: locate fbmmx.o07:07
bob2HansZ: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats (yes)07:07
ExodusI live in Venezuela, i'd like to know around how long would it take for the cd's to arrive.07:07
bob2Exodus: when did you order?07:07
Razor-Xand if it's not there, try sudo updatedb07:07
Exodusjust now.07:07
Razor-Xand then try locate again07:08
rekasens: close nautilus, then places->home07:08
sensreka: I found it man07:08
bob2Exodus: give it a few weeks07:08
ExodusVenezuela (south america) :P07:08
unreal18:07:11 (49.48 KB/s) - `ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso' saved [615307264/615307264]  <-- :)07:08
rekaah, ok07:08
sensreka: found the themes directory07:08
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Exodusmore then a month?07:08
senswhen i went to it in nautilus i didn't put the ~ at the stary07:08
rekasens: cool, you can handle the rest then.07:08
HappyFoolHeimdall: hmm07:08
HappyFoolwhat error do you get?07:08
HansZbob2: doesn't help me07:08
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sensreka: hopefully, i'll come back here if i can't :P07:09
bob2HansZ: except that it does07:09
HansZbob2: except it does07:09
rekasens: no worries07:09
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bionicIs it possible to get sound from two soundcards when i have headphones in just one of them? :)07:09
ExodusRazor-X, bob2, thanks for answering my questions. :)07:09
HansZbionic: yea07:10
digaoRazor-X, i found this in the ubuntu forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38183 there is a link to a debian package for smeg. thanks07:10
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jbroomewhat an unfortunate package name07:10
bionicHansZ, how? They are both enabled now, the one the headphones are in is using /dev/dsp, the other /dev/dsp1, but when i run xmms on dsp1 i get no sound in the headphones07:10
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HansZbionic: hm.. have u unmuted dsp107:11
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hughsieAnyone want to ask questions about gnome-power-manager? I'm the dev.07:11
verveeldi'm back. Anyone watch the SA v France rugby?07:11
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verveeldI'm busy waiting for ubuntu to finish installing on my laptop07:12
kong0can anybody pls help this poor linux newbie on where to get a good site for linux warez?07:12
HappyFoolheh07:12
bionicHansZ, yeah its not muted, doesnt show it in volum controls at least07:12
senshow do i edit what loads up in the startup of linux?07:12
HappyFoollinux warez?07:12
jbroomehahahahaha07:12
jbroomehahaha07:12
HappyFooltry synaptic07:12
HappyFoolSystem -> Adminstration -> Synaptic07:12
HappyFoollots of warez there07:12
jbroomeit's right next to the linux spyware cleaners and virus scanners07:12
senslol07:12
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verveeldjbroome: lol07:12
ompauljbroome, now you are joking07:12
syndhey guys, got a nicecast running. electronic music: http://139.55.46.63:8000/playlist.pls07:12
rekaHappyFool: no warez distribution please. :-P07:12
naliothjbroome: yes, it does raise some eyebrows (re pkg name)07:13
kong0hmm something tells me i didnt give a good inpression...07:13
ompaulyou kill me you do07:13
HappyFoolreka: this is 1337 l3g4l warez07:13
naliothkong0: linux warez? linux software is mostly free, or open-source07:13
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verveeldMy Ubuntu installation is on Configuring apt 75%, testing security update repository... its taking quite a while... is this normal07:13
kong0not thoose server os from suse and red hat07:13
HappyFoolkong0: seriously, there's lots of applications available to install from synaptic07:14
ompaulkong0, fire up synaptic and you will get all the useful programs you can ever need (except for railways but it appears I may be working on that)07:14
kong0ok where were synaptic?07:14
senssynd: I would listen toy our music but i get this error message: There is no element present to handle the stream's mime type audio/mpeg.07:14
HappyFoolSystem -> Administration -> Synaptic07:14
ompaulsystem - administration - syanptic07:14
kong0thx man07:15
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syndsens: hmm07:15
lambertre hello07:15
senssynd: I can listen to the other radio station that's already on there07:15
kong0i installed ubuntu on this laptop o' mine bout one hour ago...07:15
ompaulkong0, enjoy07:16
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kong0hehe07:16
waseemis anyone else having problems getting the update for gaim?07:16
bionicHansZ, you know what the problem may be?07:16
lambertpouvez vous me donner l l'URL de chat de ubuntu .fr?s'il vous palit07:16
rekalambert: #ubuntu-fr07:16
lambertmerci07:17
syndsens: ive got a couple listeners.. it seems to work for them..07:17
lambertgoodbye07:17
senssynd: maybe it's just me then :P I'm a linux n00b07:17
kong0did u guys get azureus going?07:17
rekawaseem: what problems?07:18
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kong0i didnt even understand how to install it...07:18
ompaulkong0, why when we have native bittorrent07:18
naliothkong0: you need java07:18
nalioth!Java07:18
ubotuhmm... java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java07:18
waseemreka: i tried to do apt-get install gaim and its telling me that it couldnt get the stat source package list from ftp.nerim.net/blahbbalfdhh07:18
kong0hmm im not familiar with native...07:18
kong0i know and i couldnt install jawa07:19
unrealwould anyone here have the cdrecord source by any chance?07:19
ompaulkong0, there is a bittorrent client already on the machine07:19
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waseemreka: i never get the update in the update manager so i thought i would have to do it manually07:19
microhaxoWHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!07:19
naliothunreal: its not avalable at jeorgs page?07:19
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kong0native huh... is it as good as bittornado or?07:19
microhaxoIM CONVINCED THAT LINUX IS DESTROYING MY WINDOWS!07:19
unrealnalioth: jerog is the creator of it?07:19
unrealer, jeorg even07:20
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thr1celinux won't touch your windows unless you tell it to07:20
senshow do I edit what loads up on the startup of ubuntu?07:20
microhaxoI go to boot up windows on a SEPERATE HD and it says THAT THE DAMN winlogin.exe cannot be found all these fkin dlls not found07:20
rekamicrohaxo: at least your doors are ok.07:20
naliothunreal: thought jeorg schilling was the author (google cdrecord homepage)07:20
microhaxothat shit dont happen by its self..07:20
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ompaulmicrohaxo so is bill gates07:20
kong0hmm i dont know...the grudge between linux and windows is greater...kidding*07:20
unrealheh07:20
thr1cemicrohaxo, yes, it does happen by yourself; you probably did something07:20
microhaxoBs07:20
microhaxowhat could i have done07:20
verveeldok install finished. yest!07:20
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thr1ceyou tell us07:20
verveeldyes07:20
jbroomeboot loader problem?07:21
microhaxoi have been runnin linux only07:21
microhaxofor days07:21
DagaZhow do I put a pause in a bashscript?07:21
microhaxoand i booted to windows this mornin07:21
rekawaseem: i'm not familiar with gaim, but are you sure there is a package for the latest one in the repos?07:21
microhaxoplayed CSS07:21
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microhaxoand booted back to linux07:21
microhaxoand now i want to play CSS again07:21
microhaxowindows cannot load07:21
microhaxocant find winlogin.exe07:21
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microhaxoand a shitload of DLLS07:21
microhaxoim pissed07:21
thr1celinux won't touch that HDD unless you do it yourself07:21
sensmicrohaxo: can you not put in your windows cd and do a repair?07:21
unrealnalioth: ty though :)07:21
microhaxoI DONT HAVE WINDOWS CD NE MORE07:21
jbroomei'd blame steam before i blamed linux. :)07:21
TokenBadhondje, I got my upload problems fix..people can upload now..and they can't leave their home dirs07:21
TokenBadand they can resume files to07:22
sensmicrohaxo: even the warzed copies have a repair you know07:22
thr1cemmm...I suspect pirated windows07:22
hondjeTokenBad: awesome :)07:22
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microhaxoi dont have warez07:22
microhaxohaha07:22
microhaxoits not pirated07:22
microhaxoi have my cdkey and all07:22
microhaxooem windows07:22
thr1ceand you got rid of the CD ?07:22
microhaxobut the cd is cracked07:22
sensmicrohaxo: sure you don't, in that case, may I ask where your windows cd is?07:22
TokenBadyeah finally07:22
microhaxoITS CRACKED07:22
jbroomeyarrr matey, yee windows 'tus fux0rd07:22
microhaxogot it in 200107:22
microhaxoARG07:22
senslol @ jbroome07:23
kong0whats the windoes program emu named? genges or sumthin...?07:23
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thr1cemaybe downloading another...?07:23
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kong0its like wine but better...07:23
sensmicrohaxo: maybe it's time you became a pirate and downloaded yourself another copy so you can do a repair, it's the only way you're going to fix it07:23
HansZcan someone help me downgrading gcc?07:23
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naliothmicrohaxo: as long as you have a license, you can have as many CDs as you like07:24
sens@ nalioth, they're not even sure on that anymore, you can't backup cd's anymore07:25
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HappyFoolkong0: you mean maybe cedega?07:25
kong0cedega yeah that must be the one07:26
LokeDKWhy is there a /etc/init.d/apache2 when i use /etc/init.d/apache ..?07:26
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kong0can i get cedega in synaptic?07:26
ekCoi cant compile anything07:26
naliothkong0 cedega is payware07:26
ekCoit says install has nothing to do07:26
ekCoetc07:26
naliothekCo: install 'build-essential'07:26
kong0and another question... is kde good?07:26
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kong0u mean it? i have to pay?07:27
naliothkong0: "is kde good?" is chevrolet good?07:27
jbroomethose BASTARDS!07:27
thr1cekong0, lol, that's purely a matter of opinion07:27
jbroomenalioth: kde: yes.  Chevy: no. :)07:27
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kong0well chevrolet IS good...07:27
ekConalioth, ??? what do you mean?07:27
thr1cekong0, it depends who you ask07:27
kong0depends on how u look at it..07:27
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thr1cekong0, they have more releases than gnome, so many like that07:27
kong0well well, gnome is easy so i'll just stick to that07:28
thr1cebut, you'll run into bugs occassionally07:28
ompaulthr1ce, just less often than some other platforms, so it just seems to be worse when you find one :)07:28
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naliothekCo: do you have gcc and other development pkgs installed?07:28
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ekCothink so07:29
CANDY_Yhallo everyone;)07:29
HappyFoolekCo: if make says 'nothing to do' it usually means its already done it, afaik07:29
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kong0wich is the best media player then?07:30
ekColol this is the first time trying07:30
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rekakong0: what car is the best?07:30
Tomcat_kong0: xine and mplayer07:30
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kong0hmm depends on wether u have enough money to buy fuel...07:30
Tomcat_kong0: But reka is right, it depends on your needs... I use totem although it has not many features, but I like the simplicity.07:31
senswhy do i keep getting unexpected end of streams when i'm listening tothe radio?07:31
mactinywell, there are good cars and then there are bad cars07:31
ekConalioth, make: Nothing to be done for `INSTALL'.07:31
kong0k...07:31
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ekCoetc etc07:31
ompaulkong0, and I use xmms - but that is because I have choice07:31
naliothekCo: what exactly are you trying to install?07:31
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kong0i use xmms for music07:31
Tomcat_kong0: It's all free software, so just test everything out for a while. :)07:32
naliothekCo: and how are you going about it?07:32
ezuserHey Everyone07:32
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naliothpfp: don't waste your time on that gnome-waste-bittorrent07:32
kong0theres to much...07:32
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kong0im shutting down synaptic...07:32
ekCologitech applet07:32
rekakong0: listen to Tomcat_.  we can recommend stuff, but we can't tell you which is the best b/c we all have dfferent opinions.07:32
Tomcat_pfp: Azureus is really the way to go. :o07:32
jeroen_Tomcat_, no, it uses Java07:33
pfpnalioth: yep, back to azurus (once i'll fix my java installation)07:33
nalioth!Java07:33
ubotu[java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java07:33
ekConalioth, ./configure --prefix=/usr, then make07:33
Tomcat_jeroen_: Yeah but my new system is fast enough to handle it... makes no difference if it's running or not.07:33
ekCobut make does nothing, the same with make install07:33
ekConothing is regged07:33
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naliothekCo: some programs don't work like that (from source)07:33
naliothekCo: did you read the readme?07:33
kong0how do u see how much RAM im using? i can see cpu...07:34
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jeroen_Tomcat_, Java is non-free, that's the point. It's called the Java trap. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html07:34
thr1cefree07:34
thr1cerun free07:34
rekakong0: top07:34
Tomcat_kong0:  Apps => System => System monitor07:34
thr1ceor vmstat07:34
ompaulkong0, use the command free07:34
ekCoyes07:34
thr1ceor top07:34
ekCoit says nothing07:34
pfpyeah, java is annoying, but azureus seems still the best client for linux07:34
ekCojust what mouses it covers etc07:34
ekCoso/07:34
ompaulkong0, use the command top / vmstat ohh look choices :)07:34
Tomcat_jeroen_: Oh you were referring to that... yeah it's not the best way indeed, but I have to develop on Java anyway.07:34
ekCowhat can i do07:34
ekCo?07:34
kong0ahh man i dont even know where to type in the commands07:34
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ompaulkong0, so we show you07:35
naliothekCo: read the readme that comes with and maybe the INSTALL07:35
senswhere do i edit what loads up on startup?07:35
TokenBadhow know how much free space is per mounted drive?07:35
Tomcat_TokenBad: "df"07:35
eyequeuekong0:  applications > system tools > terminal07:35
pfpTokenBad: df -h07:35
thr1cedf -m07:35
naliothekCo: what EXACTLY are you trying to do?07:35
kong0ompaul: hwat do u mean?07:35
thr1cewell, you need to find a terminal07:35
TokenBadthanks07:35
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thr1ceapplications, system, terminal07:36
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ekCocompile and install logitech_applet07:36
ompaulkong0,  applications - system tools - terminal <-- this is where you type commands07:36
ekCo:)07:36
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ezuserI've just installed 5.04 on my laptop. Whenever I startup or shutdown the system the whole screen goes to a variety of colours.  I guessing this is when X is starting/stopping but does anyone have any ideas what is causing this or how to fix it. TIA07:36
Tomcat_ekCo: That was pretty easy for me... just make, make install I think.07:36
unreallol07:36
unrealnot good, I have the gentoo livecd in my dvdrw drive, and can't eject it :P07:36
kong0aight ompaul07:36
mark__hi all, I've just installed the new 1.0.4 firefox in Ubuntu. (Ran the installer) but now I can't middle click to close tabs, anyone know why?07:36
thr1ceunreal, eject /dev/hdXX07:36
X7Canyone knows about DLINK wifi pci card support on ubuntu?07:37
ekCothats what i've done tomcat07:37
ekCoand nothing happens07:37
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X7Cwill the thingie work?07:37
thr1ceumount /dev/hdXX07:37
eyequeueunreal:  umount it07:37
rekamark__: dd you set it in prefs?07:37
ompaulkong0, some commands should only be run by root - the 'superuser' to do this on the same menu you can choose 'root terminal' however stay away from that until you have a bit of experiance - you can break the system pretty badly there if you make a mistake07:37
microhaxoOk07:37
microhaxoofficially07:37
microhaxothis is pissing me off07:37
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kong0man...i didnt think ubuntu would use so much ram..07:37
Tomcat_ekCo: I'd go through the unpacking and compiling process with you, but I'm on the run. I think others can help you, it's easy to compile.07:37
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microhaxowindows is FCKED!07:37
thr1cemicrohaxo, yes, you've said that07:37
microhaxoyea07:37
rekamicrohaxo: then join a windows channel07:37
microhaxowell in case you havent noticed07:37
microhaxowindows COSTS MONEY..07:38
microhaxodammit07:38
X7Ci dreamt with breezy yesterday xD07:38
ompaulmicrohaxo, yes that is why we all choose Linux07:38
microhaxolol07:38
microhaxobut07:38
thr1cei would say piracy is fine in this case07:38
thr1ceyou've purchased it07:38
mark__reka, no don't think. In the firefox preferences?07:38
ekConalioth, pm07:38
thr1cedownload a corp. XP cd :)07:38
microhaxoyea i have the cd key07:38
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benito01necesito charlar07:38
microhaxothe real one'07:38
rekamark__: yes, i'd try that.07:38
ompaulthr1ce, no I would say it is a motive to move07:38
microhaxoEh07:38
microhaxoi like Linux alot07:38
microhaxobut07:38
ompaulmicrohaxo, you really don't need that other stuff07:38
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microhaxoI NEED my games07:38
microhaxolol07:38
kong0i have a couple of windows*s07:38
mark__ok I'll try that. thanks reka07:38
microhaxoi have an X800 xt pe07:38
microhaxothat isnt for gnome to look good07:38
microhaxoits for Windows to play kick ass games07:39
eyequeuelamers07:39
unrealbrb, rebooting :)07:39
benito01microhaxo07:39
microhaxoyea07:39
eyequeuei mean gamers07:39
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pfpkong0: gnome (and kde) use a lot of ram, XFCE should be lighter07:39
kong0thats something i dont like...there isnt much games to linux....07:39
djm62microhaxo: fair enough...but this really isn't the place to be discussing windows (btw, are you buying games for linux and letting the publishers know?)07:39
benito01que paso microhaxo07:39
microhaxoahh07:39
microhaxoEVERY07:39
microhaxogame i dload07:39
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microhaxodoesnt work07:39
microhaxoon linux07:39
thr1cestop07:40
thr1cebreaking up07:40
thr1ceyour sentences07:40
benito01microphaxo no hablas en espaol07:40
microhaxosome bs error, saying i dont have 3d rendering and then Enemy territory i dont know what the hell is wrong with that07:40
HappyFoolbenito01: /join #ubuntu-es07:40
microhaxoc07:40
thr1cedid you install the ATI drivers?07:40
microhaxoyea07:40
thr1cerun fglrxinfo07:40
microhaxoi can play Tuxracer07:40
microhaxofine07:40
microhaxoits all there07:40
thr1cedoes it say ATI ?07:40
microhaxoglxgears07:40
microhaxo7000fps07:40
eyequeuetoo annoying to stay07:40
microhaxoyes it does07:40
thr1ceouch07:41
benito01happyfool que paso hablas espaol07:41
hondjemicrohaxo: glxinfo | grep server looks 'bout what you'd expect?07:41
pfpkong0: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 <- games07:41
djm62microhaxo: press return less frequently, for all our sakes07:41
HappyFoolbenito01: i do not speak spanish07:41
microhaxolol, ill keep that in mind07:41
HappyFoolbenito01: /join #ubuntu-es07:41
wouterlwhere does ubuntu keep the xf86config file? can't find it ...07:41
hondjehablan espanol en #ubuntu-es07:41
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benito01i sorry happy fool07:41
HappyFoolwouterl: /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:41
microhaxohowever CEDEGA has the worst ass proformance, not to mention i cant get shit installed on this x64 release..07:41
thr1cewouterl, it uses xorg07:41
djm62wouterl: ubuntu doesn't use xf86... /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:41
naliothbenito01: hablamos espanol en #ubuntu-es07:41
thr1cetry looking for xorg.conf :)07:41
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wouterlit's the warty ...07:41
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fetmancan somebody please help me with my sound?07:42
benito01nalioth bueno quiero charlar07:42
hondjenalioth: -amos? estas en #ubuntu-es tambien?07:42
albackerguys can someone give me a repo to get acroread 7 ??07:42
thr1ceshould be in /etc/X1107:42
HappyFoolwouterl: ah. /etc/X11/XF86config, i think -- or maybe XF86Config07:42
zxxxzzhow do i set wireless network for ubuntu?07:42
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wouterltnx07:42
zxxxzzim using the live CD07:42
kong0i thought cedega was the best...07:42
signiusWooHoo i just ordered all the kit to build my full on m0nowall setup :-)07:42
zxxxzzjust trying it out07:43
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naliothbenito01: hondje , yo habla muy poquito tex-mex07:43
benito01nalioth sos hombre o mujer07:43
Teddansonhey does ubuntu use xorg by default ?07:43
djm62kong0: best is when companies release linux native versions ;)07:43
hondjenalioth: ah, 10-4 good buddy :)07:43
djm62Teddanson: yep07:43
benito01no importa07:43
HappyFoolTeddanson: ubuntu 5.04 (and onwards, no doubt)07:43
benito01soy de nicaragua07:43
naliothhondje: put on barbed-wire underwear07:43
hondje'sos'? Who uses 'sos'?07:43
kong0ok...NOW i understand what u ppl mean with native...07:43
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albackercan someone please give me a repo to get acroread 7 ?07:44
naliothbenito01: ?esta no personas en #ubuntu-es?07:44
zxxxzzhow do i set wireless network for ubuntu? im using the "Ubuntu Live" . any one knows how to do it?07:44
djm62kong0: there are a few already, notably unreal tournament for the last two releases, and doom III07:44
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kong0and what a world it would be if companies made games for linux all the time07:44
djm62kong0: and if you let publishers know you like to play on linux, and have spent money on linux games, they will07:44
benito01nalioth bueno se me termina el tiemp otro dia charlamos07:44
HappyFoolyeah, we'd have 100 more people complaining about their games not working here07:45
naliothbenito01: sorry, no comprende07:45
signiusLOL @ HappyFool07:45
syndcheck out my nicecast - http://139.55.46.63:8000/playlist.pls07:45
kong0cool....however i dont really spend money on games...or OS...or anything except candy07:45
synd:>07:45
BauhnI need help with uninstalling GRUB and/or Ubuntu so windows boot normally (the way it were when i installed windows). anyone who can help me?07:45
naliothBauhn: fdisk your /mbr07:45
naliothBauhn: any boot disk will do (that has fdisk on it, of course)07:46
Bauhnnalioth, i really suck on this, so please.. explain?07:46
djm62kong0: welcome to the ranks of the economically disenfranchised ;)07:46
kong0bauhn i saw some good froums for thoose kind of problems b4...search for linux forums07:46
naliothBauhn: insert a ubuntu livecd or knoppix livecd07:46
kong0hahaha i feel like home already07:47
Bauhnnalioth, ok.. and then?07:47
mark__I can't see anything in firefox about the middle-click to close tabs07:47
naliothBauhn: or even a windows 95 boot floppy07:47
Bauhnnalioth, ok. but when the cd boots up, what should i do?07:47
DagaZI made a little script for easy install of pure-ftpd http://dagaz.zapto.org/pureinstall <-- any comments are welcome07:47
naliothBauhn: open a terminal and type "fdisk /mbr" and that will clean grub off the mbr and you can have windows back (gettin linux back is alittle more complicated)07:47
Bauhnnalioth, i'm going to throw away the linux-hdd anyways..07:48
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naliothBauhn: ok, then, that should fix you up07:48
HappyFoolnalioth: does 'fdisk /mbr' work on the ubuntu livecd ?07:48
kong0hmm i just remebered i have nvn on cd...07:49
BauhnUnable to open /mbr07:49
Bauhnroot@allrummetgoesLAJNUX:/home/bauhn #07:49
kong0however...i kinda need daemon tools (or linux version of it?)...07:49
microhaxopure BS07:49
Bauhnnalioth, what should i do now?07:50
naliothHappyFool: i'm not sure, i always have my knoppix with me on house-calls07:50
djm62kong0: is that neverwinter nights? they have a linux version07:50
HappyFoolnalioth: ok, so fdisk /mbr works with knoppix? ;)07:50
naliothBauhn: ya got an old win98/98 boot floppy around?07:50
Bauhnnalioth, no, but i think i can fix a live-cd07:50
naliothBauhn: probably quicker (if you have a floppy drive and floppy) to go to bootdisk.com07:51
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Bauhnnalioth, but i'm on "Dreamhack" right now, and dont have any floppys with me. so that's a problem07:52
kong0yes...but i think i have windows version...does it work on both?07:52
Bauhnso i'll go with the live-cd07:52
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djm62kong0: I think you download a small file, then use the same CD key and game data07:52
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kong0djm63: how do you write TO me so the color is red?07:52
kong0cool07:52
Bauhndo you think it'll work with a windows cd and from there run something from DOS?07:52
naliothBauhn: dreamhack?07:52
ivanoxDreamhack is the worlds biggest LAN07:53
Bauhnnalioth, worlds largest computer festival.. but anyways.. do you think it will work?07:53
microhaxoYo07:53
microhaxowhat is a good FILE BURNING SOFTWARE?!07:53
naliothBauhn: a rescue console from a win_nt_based cd will have a proggy called 'fixmbr' i believe this does what you want07:53
thr1cemicrohaxo, stop talking in caps07:53
microhaxolol07:53
djm62kong0: I imagine your irc client looks out for your /nick in a line, so if I start a line with your nick it highlights it07:53
kong0nero...haha dont know in linux...07:53
naliothmicrohaxo: lose the caps, bud07:53
microhaxolol07:53
microhaxoaight07:53
thr1cenero works in linux for one07:53
kong0cool07:54
microhaxonever again will you see caps from me07:54
hondjemicrohaxo: use nautilus07:54
DagaZkong0: use loop.. check the ubuntuguide07:54
microhaxonero isnt free07:54
thr1ceor dd07:54
thr1ce:)07:54
Bauhnnalioth, so i run DOS and typ "fixmbr" and everything will work fine after that?07:54
hondjemicrohaxo: open nautilus, click places, and cd/dvd creator07:54
kong0shouldnt u have the same client? it was included07:54
microhaxok07:54
microhaxois it already installed?07:54
kong0natice or what u call it07:54
djm62microhaxo: k3b is good, nautilus will burn data, gnome-baker will burn data and audio07:54
naliothBauhn: if you have a plain dos thing (like freedos) use fdisk /mbr07:54
microhaxoi need data07:54
Lie-Algebrahi, i figured out i should add "reboot=b" to the kernel comand line so that my laptop reboot properly, how do i do that?07:54
djm62microhaxo: if you literally want to burn files, that's a hardware thing07:54
LDMI like K3B for burning, but it's a KDE app... should be able to get it working under gnome thought.07:54
microhaxowhat?07:54
microhaxolol07:54
naliothif you boot from a win2k/winXP bootable cd, choose rescue mode and go to rescue console07:55
veronicaim setting up raid and i get a adm:error opening /dev/md0  nosuch file or directory.......please help!07:55
naliothLDM: k3b works fine under gnome07:55
Bauhnnalioth, yes. and from there just type "fdisk /mbr"?07:55
thr1cek3b is the most developed burnign software for gui, i think07:55
microhaxowhere is use nautilus stored?07:55
naliothBauhn: then use fixmbr07:55
djm62microhaxo: nautilus is the file manager07:55
microhaxoah07:55
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hondjek3b makes no sense to me07:56
hondjeWhy so many buttons?07:56
naliothBauhn: the NT kerneled boot disks dont have fdisk, but fixmbr07:56
Bauhnnalioth, sorry if i'm dumb, but i just dont want to change hdd's one more time. so boot from the cd, rescue console, fixmbr, reboot?07:56
kong0can i install windoes drivers somehow on this linux? i cant find any knew...07:56
naliothhondje: there are buttons in k3b?07:56
mikasis it possible to make the cd/dvd-burner of gnome a bit more verbose?07:56
Teddansondoes ubuntu offer a way to choose between wireless networks in range via gui?07:56
djm62microhaxo: onmy system, if I insert a blank CD, it automatically brings up nautilus for CD burning07:56
microhaxolol07:56
microhaxolet me see07:56
naliothBauhn: if you are using a win2k/winXP boot cd, yes07:56
kong0i have ibm thinkpad t40...07:56
hondjenalioth: seems over-done to me07:56
Bauhnnalioth, sweet. thanks for your help and have a nice day07:56
microhaxoelite07:57
microhaxo:D07:57
djm62(I didn't set that up, it Just Worked, but YMMV)07:57
naliothmy god i'm talking about windows.. i must be sick07:57
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mark__does most RPM's work with ubuntu?07:57
thr1cemicrohaxo, :)07:57
Octanewhen will the openoffice2.org amd64 packages be fixed? :)07:57
naliothmark__: most of em07:57
thr1cemark__, of course not07:57
thr1cemark__, gotta get them to deb first07:57
nalioththr1ce: not even with alien?07:57
djm62mark__: in general, assume not...it's worth a try if there's no alternative07:58
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thr1cei would say it's a last resort...converting CAN go bad07:58
djm62mark__: there aren't many things you can't get in deb format, especially if you add some extre repositories07:58
kong0whats the best programme for bin and image emulation?07:58
thr1cebin2iso :)07:59
thr1cethen loop it07:59
kong0like alcohol120%07:59
djm62thr1ce: does nautilus do that automatically?07:59
thr1cei don't think so...but i'm sure you'll find a bin to iso converter on freshmeat07:59
kong0djm62:07:59
naliothkong0: binchunker07:59
nalioththr1ce: is bin2iso on sourceforge?08:00
kong0where in synaptics could i fin that?08:00
naliothwoops08:00
naliothslow fingers, thr1ce08:00
djm62thr1ce: I meant the loopback stuff...last time I used that, it involved being root08:00
microhaxodammit08:00
microhaxoi think im going to have to setup my 2600 in a second box just for linux08:00
microhaxobecause08:00
microhaxowindows is FUBAR..08:00
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kong0whats fubar?08:01
HappyFoolgerman08:01
thr1ceyes, mounting an iso requires root / sudo08:01
microhaxofked up beyond recognition08:01
djm62microhaxo: windows isn't designed to work with other OSes...things go better if you keep it simple and separate08:01
HappyFoolfor badly broken08:01
microhaxoit is seprerate08:01
microhaxoon a SEPERATE HD08:01
microhaxoi dont get it08:01
GNULinuxerkong0, fubar == whatever ... just rubbish08:01
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djm62thr1ce: why is that?08:02
kong0ok08:02
thr1cedjm62, it's just like mounting a CD or HDD08:02
kong0where do i get my hands on binchunk...pls dont say synaptrics cus i cant find a thing there...08:02
sensI thought it was spelt foobar08:02
thr1cegoogle?08:03
djm62thr1ce: certainly mounting it at kernel level, that's obvious, but why can't user-space tools interpret the contents of an ISO and let you get files off it?08:03
GNULinuxersens, that's an alt spelling08:03
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Teddansondoes ubuntu=debian with better hardware detection?08:03
sensGNULinuxer: alt as in old? I learnt the word from my dad so....yeah it would be fairly old08:04
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hondjeTeddanson: Seems about the same to me, actually08:04
naliothkong0: proper name for it is "binchunker"08:04
GNULinuxersens, alt as in alternative08:04
sensGNULinuxer: orite, thanks08:04
kong0maaaaan, i havent installed a single driver on this linux...08:04
djm62Teddanson: ubuntu is a more desktop-focussed08:04
kong0i dont hink a can play music and games and such...08:04
microhaxoif someone can get CEDEGA WORKING i will stay with linux08:04
sens@kong0, neither have I, not sure if I need any drivers08:05
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microhaxocuz i need meh games08:05
microhaxolol08:05
bob2microhaxo: if you've paid for it, transgaming will be happy to help08:05
OctaneCerberus, crowbar swinging idiots ring a bell?08:05
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thr1cemicrohaxo, lots of people use cedega08:05
bob2kong0: of course you can have listen to music08:05
CerberusOctane yeah it does08:05
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OctaneCerberus I am [CSI] Octane!08:05
Cerberuscool08:05
Octanedo you remember me??08:05
djm62microhaxo: yeah...cedega is something you can demand help for from the manufacturers08:05
CerberusOctane not really man08:06
sensanyone here used BUM? Boot-Up Manager?08:06
kong0bob2: i havent installed my motherboard08:06
OctaneCerberus, okay wrong guy then :)08:06
GNULinuxersens, http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/F/FUBAR.html08:06
forsaker8k6mmm... is it normal that choosing from grub the entry of the kernel in recovery mode (the one that is autogenerated by ubuntu), starts a console with root acces without asking any password?08:06
dell500"ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: MD5Sum mismatch" i get this error when i do sudo apt-get update and it also happens in synaptic08:06
thr1cedoesn't look a ubuntu mirror to me...08:07
naliothdell500: us.archives are foobared at the moment08:07
kong0well im off downloading some music or such...08:07
sensGNULinuxer, yeah because foobar was obviously the correct way, hence they've put the definitionunder it08:07
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naliothdell500: update your sources.list by removing the us. from all lines starting with us.08:07
GNULinuxersens, i agree08:07
naliothdell500: or don't use marillat08:08
sensGNULinuxer, good good, could you give me some help possibly?08:08
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dell500what's marillat??08:08
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naliothdell500: the URL you just posted is marillat08:08
thenukedell500: debian repository for mplayer and something :)08:08
kong0OK DUDES...SERIOUS TROUBLE....i cant eject my dvd drive!!08:08
forsaker8k6no ideas about what i asked?08:08
thr1ceare you using it?08:08
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kong0no man i press the button and nothing happens08:09
Bauhnnalioth, haha, i'm back ;P It didnt work to boot from the cd. GRUB loaded directly.. can i fix it?08:09
thr1cekong0, because it's mounted08:09
senskong0, right click the icon on the desktop and go to eject08:09
kong0how do i unmount?08:09
thr1cerun the command "eject /dev/hdXX"08:09
GNULinuxersens, about what?08:09
HappyFoolBauhn: you'll probably need to tell your bios to boot from cd first08:09
djm62kong0: something (probably nautilus) is "in" the directory, so you can't eject it while in use.  find the icon, right-click on it, and you should be able to select eject or unmount08:09
thr1ceas I had advised earlier... :)08:09
BauhnHappyFool, how do i do that?08:09
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scottsometimes when I switch songs or jump forward in movies I hear this awful screach. how do I get rid of that?08:09
kong0ahhh man got paniced there for awhile thx dudes08:09
naliothBauhn: i'm not sure if you can fdisk the /mbr from inside a running box08:09
forsaker8k6sudo umount /media/cdrom, kong008:10
asasedell500 or just compile it :) it's so easy: try google: ubuntu multimedia howto08:10
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HappyFoolBauhn: at a guess, during boot, press 'DEL' to get to bios setup, selected .. um. 'Advanced BIOS options', and edit the boot device order there -- it should be sort of obvious08:10
naliothanyone know how Bauhn can nuke his /mbr?08:10
myrenwhy do so many packages lack a description?08:10
bob2you never want to nuke your mbr08:10
bob2myren: e.g.?08:10
thr1ceum08:10
forsaker8k6what do you mean for nuking his mbr?08:10
dell500does it matter if it doesn't respond/work??08:10
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kong0i had it on my desktop so i couldnt eject it...just right click...thx all08:10
Varangeris there any way I can force ALSA to use another IRQ for a card?08:10
thr1cecat /dev/random > /mbr ?08:10
thr1cesomething like that?08:10
sensGNULinuxer, my music, if i put a cd in all my music shows up. as .mp3's, which they are, i think. but if i try to play the file i get told 'There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///media/cdrom0/Gorillaz%20-%20Demon%20Days/02%20gorillaz%20-%20last%20living%20souls.mp3", you might need to install the corresponding plugins'08:10
myrenxmms-itouch, xfmedia, &c &c08:10
naliothBauhn: there ya go, many people who know more than i08:10
thr1ceor dd with /dev/random08:11
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thenukedell500: try this command:  gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 && gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -08:11
bob2sens: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:11
thenukedell500: that should get marillat working08:11
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myrenoh, thats aptitude being weird, i'm sorry08:11
naliothbob2 baugh is tired of linux and wants his windows back w/o grub in the way08:11
ilba7ris there any RSS feed for ubuntu that i can add?08:11
dell500thanks thenuke08:11
dell500thenuke, will it conflict with anything??08:11
Bauhnthr1ce, can you explain more excactly?08:11
scottis marillat = hoary-extras?08:11
bob2no08:11
thenukedell500: should not conflict.08:11
GNULinuxersens, yeah right08:11
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thr1ceBauhn, did that work?08:12
HappyFoolBauhn: thr1ce was, i hope, joking there08:12
thr1ceHappyFool, that wouldn't wipe the mbr?08:12
BauhnHappyFool, i'll try your way. I'll be right back08:12
sensbob2, thanks man.08:13
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orangeyhey all!08:13
Varangeris there any way I can force ALSA to use another IRQ for a card?08:13
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orangeyfor some reason, when I do ssh -L port:host:port location , it won't let me do it! it's a virgin install of ubuntu.. are there any options that need to be enabled?08:13
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thr1ceor08:13
thr1cedd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda count=108:14
Shishorangey: error message?08:14
forsaker8k6anyway boyz.. i've found a weird thing about security that leaves me a bit concerned...08:14
thr1cedon't run that anyone else08:14
naliothorangey: that's weird08:14
GNULinuxersens, http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs08:14
forsaker8k6can i ask?08:14
thr1cedid he leave?08:14
HappyFoolforsaker8k6: we're all ears08:14
LinuxJonesforsaker8k6, of course you can ask08:14
HappyFoolthr1ce: yip08:14
thr1cedamn08:14
orangeybind: Cannot assign requested address08:14
naliothorangey: but i think its supposed to be ssh -L 5900:127.0.0.1:5900 user@target.machine  (or somethign like that)08:14
orangeychannel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 590008:14
orangeyCould not request local forwarding.08:14
orangeynalioth: tried that too..08:14
thr1ceHappyFool, ah08:15
forsaker8k6starting from grub the autogenerated entry of the kernel in recovery mode,08:15
dell500thenuke, i think that worked :)08:15
dell500thanks08:15
HappyFoolmaybe something's listening on port 5900 already?08:15
thr1ceHappyFool, why wouldn't that work?08:15
forsaker8k6gives the user a terminal with root access08:15
forsaker8k6O_O08:15
naliothorangey: so wahts the error msg?08:15
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forsaker8k6without asking passwords i mean08:15
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HappyFoolthr1ce: he wants a windows mbr, not an arbitrarily broken one08:15
orangeynalioth: as above08:15
HappyFoolforsaker8k6: physical access to the machine == compromised, more or less08:15
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thr1ceHappyFool, oooh...I thought he just wanted to wipe it and reinstall windows08:16
kong0i had a good question...dammit cant remember08:16
HappyFoolforsaker8k6: i believe ubuntuguide.org gives some hints on improving security08:16
naliothorangey: you've already got something listening on that address. try another one or find out whats running08:16
forsaker8k6so it is normal, right?08:16
orangeynalioth: I've tried 5-10 different port nums.08:16
orangey2222, 5901, 5555, etc.08:16
HappyFoolforsaker8k6: if you are truly concerned, store all your personal data in an encrypted form. and get a wire cage or something to work in08:16
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Teddansonwill Tv-out on an intel extreme 2 work with the default vga driver?08:16
battlecatHi out there. I will soon be losing my DSL connection (LOL I cant wait!) I will be going to a dialup that I have for free! :) Is there any way to download a few CDs of progs for Ubuntu so that I would not have to worry much about downloading from the repositories when I am on dialup?08:16
nalioththr1ce: bin2iso is java-based08:16
forsaker8k6lol08:16
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thr1cenalioth, don't like that?08:17
Shishforsaker8k6: yes; if an attacker the physical ccess to choose "recovery mode" from grub, passwords won't stop them08:17
naliothorangey: well, this is out of my league atm08:17
nalioththr1ce: some people don't run java08:17
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orangeynalioth: doh!08:17
dell500thenuke, ya, it still errored on the marillat server08:17
orangeythat's very not good..08:17
orangeydoes ubuntu somehow firewall by default?08:17
naliothorangey: nope08:18
forsaker8k6the problem starts if the attacker is my happy friend who wants to make a little joke08:18
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forsaker8k6:P08:18
naliothorangey: ubuntu HAS a firewall, but by default it does nothing08:18
HappyFoolforsaker8k6: see ubuntuguide.org -- it has tips for this sort of thing08:18
BauhnHappyFool, It didn't work, and now i dont have a clue what i should do08:18
forsaker8k6ok tnx i'll do08:18
Lafitte-streamtuner is nice :)08:18
orangeynalioth: what firewall?08:18
HappyFoolBauhn: you can't get the machine to boot from the cd at all?08:18
orangeynalioth: what about access? Should I be some other user?08:19
naliothorangey: the one in every linux distro .. .. ..iptables08:19
orangey; )08:19
BauhnHappyFool, no. Grub bites as soon i pass the first boot-screen08:19
thenukedell500: hmmh08:19
naliothorangey: you should have access to ssh just fine as yourself08:19
orangeynalioth: well, apparently something is wrong : )08:19
zoofieldsI was reading the forum and noticed something about cameras automounting themselves08:19
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zoofieldsso I gave it a whirl, but mine doesn't seem to do it08:20
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zoofieldsDo I need to configure something or apt-get something extra?08:20
naliothorangey: you probably have several wild ssh tunnels running in your system08:20
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orangeynalioth: it's a virgin ubuntu install..08:21
orangeynalioth: but how can I track them down?08:21
BauhnAnyone who can help me get rid of GRUB and so that windows boots automaticly by default?08:21
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zoofieldsAnyone know anything about automounting and cameras????08:21
thr1ceBauhn, pop in a windows CD and run fixmbr08:21
naliothBauhn: probably easier at this pint to boot into linux and edit the grub.conf08:21
Bauhnnalioth, i'm in linux right now08:22
HappyFoolBauhn: if you cannot boot from CD, you are rather out of luck, imo08:22
hondjezoofields: I stick my camera in, and it mounts :)08:22
signiusBauhn You dont need to get rid of grub you just need to change the default boot option of grub08:22
djm62AH-ha! coaxed quake3 into working08:22
naliothorangey: "ps -e|grep ssh"08:22
rekaBauhn: you want to get rid of linux?  or you just want windows to boot by default?08:22
signiusBauhn if you delete grub you wont be able to boot into linux08:22
naliothBauhn: then edit your grub.conf, change windoze to the primary boot and run the time down to a quick number08:22
zoofieldshondje:  well, isn't that lucky ;)08:22
hondjezoofields: yes, it rocks :) What's up ?08:23
Bauhnsignius, i know, and that's what i want08:23
naliothBauhn: doenst want linux anymore08:23
signiusand thw windows boot loader only recognises windows OSs08:23
orangeyubuntu:~$ ps -e|grep ssh08:23
orangey 7484 pts/3    00:00:00 ssh08:23
rekadjm62: how big is the client install file?08:23
orangeynalioth: for you : )08:23
naliothorangey: i'm totally lost now08:23
zoofieldshondje:  I don't know, it auto mounts usb memory drives08:23
Bauhnnalioth, but i'm going to remove this harddrive and can not start anything without this one at the moment08:23
djm62reka: 40-ish megabytes08:23
kong0what is motif linux, gtx linux and ppc linux?08:23
hondjezoofields: but not your camera?08:23
Bauhnbecuase grub is loaded first08:23
zoofieldshondje:  yeah for some reason not the camera08:23
rekakong0: wikipedia08:24
hondjezoofields: tail /var/log/messages show anything useful?08:24
naliothBauhn: unless you can get a mddos boot floppy.. .. ..08:24
djm62reka: at least, the demo version, but it's way out of date...I had to pretend to be using old libGL and ignore a few errors on the script08:24
eliyahuubuntu is super08:24
kong0ok..what is wikipedia?08:24
zoofieldshondje:  I was excited becaue I could never get it to work in Mepis, which is one of the reasons I'm trying ubuntu now08:24
ThE__OnEsomeone tell me why this is? I told the partioner of Ubuntu to leave 20 gigs for winxp but when i installed winxp, it only had 18.6gig all togetther. any ideas?08:24
rekadjm62: ah.  i meant the linux port.08:24
Bauhnnalioth, i'll try08:24
naliothThE__OnE: that is correct. partitioners cant' do math well08:25
GNULinuxerThE__OnE, 20 Gigs is 18.x Gig in windows08:25
zoofieldshondje:  yeah I tried that and it ended with libgphoto2: loaded successfully08:25
djm62reka: less that 40 MB, seeing as the demo has to contain the game engine08:25
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ThE__OnEahh ok08:25
rekakong0: http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/08:25
^thehatsrule^LOL08:25
hondjezoofields: plug it in and run 'gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h'08:25
zoofieldshondje:  ok08:25
eliyahui like ubuntu because is very nice08:25
D1this isn't ubuntu related, but would you guys opt for a $3 d-link router with 802.11b instead of g?08:25
rekadjm62: cool, i'll get around to running q3 some day08:25
D1its advertised at compusa08:26
Bauhnbut there isn't anyway to remove grub from a terminal or something?08:26
kong0how do i install zip files? all i get is a folder and then i cant open the files...?08:26
signiusits not partitioners cant do math its that manufacturers are naughty about how they claim the size of a HDD also you lose of the total raw capacity due to formatting etc08:26
djm62reka: the .pak takes up the vast majority of installed space, so I guess the engine is less that 10MB08:26
eliyahuapt-get install unzip08:26
rekakong0: you don't install zip files.  they're archives08:26
signiussome of thtr total*08:26
naliothD1 only $3?08:27
naliothD1 at that price does it matter?08:27
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zoofieldshondje:  wow that worked, thanks alot!!!!08:27
signiusThey cannot give you a formatted HDD drive capacity as they dont know what youll format your HDD with and some FileSysterms have more overhead than others08:27
hondjezoofields: okay, time for the fun part bud :)08:27
kong0and how do i install the stuff that are in the archives then?08:27
naliothBauhn: there is a way from the terminal, but i dont know it08:27
hondjezoofields: go to system -> preferences -> removable drives and media08:28
Bauhnnalioth, ok08:28
rekakong0: depends on what it is.  what are you trying to install?08:28
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zoofieldshondje:  ok08:28
signiusI would AVOID DLINK kit at all costs it rubbish08:28
kong0binchunker08:28
mm23in most cases you can just sudo apt-get whatever you need... be sure to add universe and multiverse, though08:28
D1$3 after rebate of course08:28
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signiusDLINK & also BELKIN is nasty hardware and you get what you pay for generally with Hardware08:29
hondjezoofields: click on the multimedia tab, and add gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h to the digital camera section, and click the 'import digital photographs' checkbox, then you 'should' have that run whenever you connect08:29
naliothD1 you can always sell @ profit, if it does prove to be rubbish08:29
mypapitsignius, what would you suggest then after i avoiding DLINK..08:29
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z00kusThere we go.08:29
rekakong0: why not use the repos? sudo apt-get install bchunk08:29
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mypapitsignius, what would you suggest then after i avoid DLINK..08:29
signiuson the budget side of things i like Netgear and also Linksys08:29
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mypapitsignius, aa.. Linksys08:29
orpi08:29
signiusi like the Draytek routers08:29
z00kusSo i have a question08:29
BauhnAnyone here who knows how i could remove grub from the terminal?08:29
zoofieldshondje:  I got an error message saying that I didn't have the "hald" applet08:29
signiusvery capable kit at a reasonable price08:29
mm23I have a Netgear card and router, they work great, although I have to use ndiswrapper08:30
z00kusHow long does it usually take for the Ubuntu CD's To ship?08:30
orpyap08:30
kong0reka: im completely new on this OS and now i wonder what repos is...08:30
z00kusI have a few companies i need to distribute them too and alot of stores/friends08:30
reka!repositories08:30
signiuson a budegt also Buffalo stuff seems to work very wel08:30
ubotuI heard repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:30
hondjezoofields: open a terminal and run 'sudo /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart08:30
naliothmypapit: and walmart sells linksys stuff under another brand (same hardware, different label)08:30
signiusand buffalo seems very linux friendly most of the time also08:30
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mm23stupid people making 5325029520 fancy mp3 visualization plugins for XMMS or something instead of actually writing drivers08:30
orpsome one use gmplayer08:30
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hondjenalioth: 'network everywhere'08:30
mypapitoh..08:30
kbrooksping08:30
hondjenalioth: it rocks, solid network cards fro $1208:30
orpi am with a problems it crach08:31
HappyFoolz00kus: you can probably find someone local to dowload it for you for a small fee, if you're in a hurry08:31
rekakong0: only install stuff manually (i.e. from "zip" files) when you can't find the program in the repos08:31
signiusI wasnt aware Linksys made kit for anyone else08:31
HappyFoolz00kus: try a internet cafe, for example, or use google08:31
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naliothhondje: i know, i have several, but atm they are buried and in the other room and i can/t read their labels08:31
z00kusno no no08:31
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naliothz00kus: like your local university or linux users group08:31
signiusLinksys is part of cisco and they are very possesive about there stuff08:31
z00kusI put an order in for 80 Cd's because im distributing to Companies/Schools/Friends08:31
kbrooksz00kus: maybe i can help. explain your problem08:31
z00kusAnd i was wondering how long it should take08:31
naliothsignius: walmart rules the world of capitalism08:32
z00kus(For the cd's to arrive)08:32
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Bauhni've found a cd-r. now i'm going to download a live-cd and i maybe come back later08:32
kbrooksz00kus: depends. we cant say08:32
zoofieldshondje:  ok did it08:32
z00kusAlright08:32
naliothsignius: and i personally don't care what the label says, as long as its linksys hardware08:32
signiusi dont think even wallmart has enough clout to tell cisco what to do08:32
hondjezoofields: now try that again, lets' hope the magic stays :)08:32
z00kusIf you guys need to call me to confirm my order then i will have phone on all day08:32
z00kusBut thanks for telling me Kbrooks.08:32
kong0reko: i cant find it in repos08:32
z00kusEveryone have a great night.08:32
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naliothsignius: cisco to my thoughts, doesnt sell to ma-and-pa-kettle08:33
kong0reka: actually i dont even know how to find it in repos08:33
rekakong0: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:33
nalioth!Restricted08:33
ubotuwell, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:33
signiusif you want a very capable router and have some spare hardware consider m0nowall08:33
naliothkong0: what ubotu said08:33
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kong0?08:33
signiusCISCO own Linksys08:33
kbrooksa bot!08:33
rekakong0: do that, and then use synaptic to install programs(sys->admin->synaptic)08:33
zoofieldshondje:  when I did the thing in the terminal it said that hald was already running, but I still get the same hald not running error message when I click on the media menu08:33
kbrooksomfg!08:34
kong0ok08:34
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rekakbrooks: you saw it yesterday.08:34
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signiusm0nowall will rival routers costing 1000 upwards with some of its features and its got a fantastic GUI to admin it08:34
hondjezoofields: hrm, I'm not cool w/ hald, I dunno bud08:34
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kong0kbrroks: i know but i have swedish and cant transleta that bot language to english sry08:34
kbrooksreka: did i?08:34
naliothsignius: yes, and major overkill for ma-and-pa-kettle08:34
hondjemaybe nalioth knows, he's a smart cat08:34
zoofieldshondje:  thanks for trying, I really appreciate it08:34
hondjezoofields: no problem08:34
signiusits free08:34
kbrookskong0: ?????08:34
bionicWhere is the soundconfig in ubuntu 5.04? I want to remove the cards i have, would like to use another card. ?08:35
rekakbrooks: yep.  i distinctly remember it.08:35
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kbrooksbionic: alsactl?08:35
kong0well im going afk now cya and thx for tha help08:35
naliothkong0: go here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:35
naliothhondje: who's a smart cat?08:35
naliothhondje: and what is he smart about?08:35
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bionickbrooks, dont know, theres a whole bunch of modules loaded for the soundcard i dont want to use, i would like to remove everything08:35
rekanalioth: why restricted?  doesn't he want to install bchunk?08:36
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ivanoxanyone in here using wine!?08:36
kbrooksivanox: wassup08:36
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forsak3nHow do I change the settings of what happens when I close my laptop lid?08:36
GarathorWhich daemon does Ubuntu use as default to manage speedstepping? Powernowd, cpufreqd or cpudyn?08:37
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hondjenalioth: you, on the subject of hald/gvm08:37
kbrooksGarathor: dpkg -L powernowd?08:37
ivanoxI installed wine using the http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&page=1&pp=10 but I cannot install internet explorer in winetools...08:37
kbrooksivanox: #wine08:37
naliothreka: everyone (imho) can use uni and multi08:37
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ivanoxactaully it's winehq but they dont respond08:38
naliothhondje: whats a hald/gvm?08:38
GarathorI'm not on my Ubuntu-system right now :)08:38
naliothivanox: WHY would you want to do that?08:38
naliothivanox: that has been proven to KILL some linux boxen08:38
hondjenalioth: hal, gnome volume manager, all that hardware stuff08:38
ivanoxuh say what?08:39
naliothhondje: as long as its PPC hardware08:39
kbrooksnalioth: .....u serious?08:39
hondjenalioth: I lose ;-)08:39
ivanoxnalioth, what are u jabbing about?08:39
naliothivanox: running IE on linux boxen (via) wine can be quite exciting08:39
rekaivanox: you want to install IE?!08:39
kbrooksivanox: you do know there is firefox?08:39
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ivanoxI dont want to run IE, but I need it installed to run other apps08:39
ivanox(to run other apps using winetools)08:40
kbrooksand you do know that opera can emulate IE as well?08:40
forsak3nHow do I change the settings of what happens when I close my laptop lid?08:40
naliothivanox: kbrooks i tried it yesterday on my roommates machine, and watched the processes multiply quickly08:40
ivanoxI dont want to use it as a browser ffs08:40
rekaivanox: ah, ok08:40
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ivanoxbut its needed by winetools to emulate other win aplications08:40
naliothivanox: do you have a windows install you are running wine with?08:40
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ivanoxno windows installation08:41
kbrooksno cd?08:41
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naliothivanox: ah. i see08:41
ivanoxbut nalioth as u apparently dont know what u are talking about plz dont bother :)08:41
naliothivanox: i have a ancient win98 install on the roommates PC that wine is running with08:41
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ivanoxhere is a good guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&page=1&pp=10 (used to be good)08:42
naliothivanox: really?08:42
ivanoxbut as wine updated their cvs winetools broke08:42
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Marty-MarI need help on my screen resolution.08:42
kbrooksuse x randr08:42
kbrooksxrandr*08:43
Marty-MarI can't get it past 640 480.08:43
Marty-MarWhere can I get it?08:43
kbrookserm08:43
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kbrooksapt-get install xrandr08:43
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rekaMarty-Mar: Marty-Mar: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:44
Marty-MarAlright.08:44
kbrooksalso, ^^^^^^^^^^^^08:44
keikozdo somebody could tell me how to minimize a full-screen application ?08:44
kbrooksubotu: version08:44
keikozpls :)08:44
ubotukbrooks: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:44
rekakbrooks: please link to that in future.08:44
Marty-MarThanks yall.08:44
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naliothkbrooks: i thought it was funny, watchin all the little windoze msg windows spawn via wine08:44
rekakeikoz: ctrl+d08:44
naliothkbrooks: didnt want to wait til they ate all the memory, so i killed wine08:44
keikozcool thx very much08:44
kbrooksubotu: screen resolution is <reply>http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:45
ubotukbrooks: okay08:45
kbrookserm08:45
kbrooksubotu: forget screen resolution08:45
ubotukbrooks: i forgot screen resolution08:45
orangeynalioth: any packages needed to forward ports?08:45
kbrooksubotu: fix screen resolution is <reply>http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:45
ubotukbrooks: okay08:45
kbrooks(sorry!)08:45
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naliothorangey: what do you mean?08:46
orangeymaybe some program involved in the port forwarding is missing?08:46
AndyRhas anyone packaged gaimvv for hoart yet?08:46
phillipcwhat is /etc/ssh_host_rsa_key, and why shouldn't a regular user have access to it?08:47
kbrooksAndyR: typo for package name?08:47
naliothorangey: you are doing it correctly. is the machine you are accessing running sshd?08:47
orangeynalioth: yeah : )08:47
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naliothphillipc: all your ssh keys are in ~/.ssh08:47
kbrooksAndyR: if it is (gaim), yes. if it isn't, i doubt it08:47
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AndyRkbrooks, gaimvv08:47
orangeyI've done the -L port:host:port thing many times.. on this system as well.. but it's only since I installed Kubuntu like yesterday that this has happened..08:47
phillipc(read access)08:47
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naliothorangey: i'm lost at this point08:48
phillipcnalioth: I know. So what is /etc/ssh_host_rsa_key?08:48
AndyRgaim friendly fork with voice and video08:48
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naliothorangey: you shouldnt need any 'port forwarding' things on your machine (or do you have a router involved?)08:48
bionicCan anyone please tell me where the soundconfig is, i want to remove the current installed soundcard?08:48
kbrooksAndyR: well, duplication..............08:48
naliothphillipc: probably the boxes default setting08:48
acidspoonis there an easy way to write on ntfs drives under ubuntu?08:48
orangeyrouter?08:48
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rekaacidspoon: ntfs-write isn't safe08:48
kbrooksAndyR: i doubt its packaged in ubuntu hoary.08:48
kbrooksAndyR: but you can search for it08:49
naliothacidspoon: not reliably( as in you risk all data on NTFS partition)08:49
kbrooksapt-cache search gaim\*08:49
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naliothorangey: is your puter connected directly to the08:49
naliothinternet?08:49
acidspoonand whats that unsafe possibility?08:49
orangeynalioth: likely not.. I'm at a net cafe this moment..08:49
naliothacidspoon: total NTFS data loss08:49
naliothorangey: ah thats the problem08:50
orangeynalioth: but I want my 127.0.0.1 to get the port..08:50
orangeynalioth: How?08:50
rekaacidspoon: is it a partition or does it have windows on it?08:50
naliothorangey: you are most likey firewalled very nicely08:50
orangeynalioth: shouldn't matter..08:50
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acidspoonwindows on it08:50
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orangeySSH forwarding is like this: It listens to me on port X, sends that info through port 22 (SSH), then outputs it on port Y of other machine..08:50
naliothorangey: it does if they block the port ssh uses08:50
acidspooni want to delete some viruses found using aegis virus scanner under linux for my windows drive08:51
orangeynalioth: they're not blocking 22, or else nothing would work, whereas I can login by ssh fine08:51
naliothorangey: i'll repeat myself. I don't know.08:51
naliothorangey: am at a loss08:51
naliothorangey: am hornswoggled08:51
rekaacidspoon: can't you just clean it in windows?08:51
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orangeynalioth: I know, I know.. I really do appreciate the working through though..08:51
orangeynalioth: You must realize you are my only hope : )08:52
naliothorangey: but i'll bet its with the cafes firewall08:52
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tmdcahi. i just installed ubuntu. how do i change the hz at my screen? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 dosent work... help  ^^08:52
martinI still cannot raise my resolution.08:52
rekahornswoggled - word of the day08:52
acidspoonhmm, my scanners under linux don't find the viruses08:52
naliothorangey: cuz thats the only thing you do not control08:52
bionicHow do i not make alsa start on boot?08:52
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naliothacidspoon: are you scanning the NTFS partition?08:52
orangeynalioth: I'll try another network shortly and let you know : )08:52
acidspoonyes08:53
rekabionic: didn't you follow the ubguide fix?  it should load alsa on bootup08:53
naliothacidspoon: better to use avast and enable boot-time scan on NTFS partitions08:53
martinCan anyone show me another way to raise my resolution to 1024 768?08:53
martinBecuase it is stuck on 640 480.08:53
acidspoonwhat does boot-time scan mean?08:53
rekamartin: you'll need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:53
bionicreka, it followed it, still wont work, alsa loads fine, but i dont want it to load at bootup. Im going back to my old soundcard and use plain old oss08:54
kbrooksmartin: Are you a hundred percent sure that you followed the guide?08:54
naliothacidspoon: means, that it scans for virii, before the windows kernel is woken up (so the little beasties are still sleepin)08:54
martinI did the first section, I cann't understand the second.08:54
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acidspoonnalioth: is it freeware or does it cost money, avast?08:55
AndyRor drop to shell and do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:55
forsak3nAre there any settings to change the actions of a laptop? like what happens when I close the lid?08:55
rekabionic: that's no good.08:55
naliothacidspoon: avast is free for personal use08:55
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bionicreka, well, wont work, so what can i do08:55
kbrooks#define free beer08:55
rekabionic: i meant i feel sorry for you, not that oss isn't good. :-)08:55
tmdcathanks! =D08:55
acidspoonok, i try08:56
acidspoonthx08:56
zythOSS isn't good08:56
acidspooncu08:56
bionicreka, hehe ty :)08:56
acidspoonbrb08:56
kbrooksping08:56
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rekapong08:56
kbrooksCan someone recommend a small DE or WM?08:57
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kbrooksenlightement?08:57
naliothkbrooks: ya mean like xfce?08:57
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kbrooks] 08:58
rekascreen :-P08:58
martinWould anyone be able to help me with the /etc/X11/xorg.conf editting?08:58
martinI'm pretty new to Linux.08:58
kbrooksnalioth: yes08:58
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rekamartin: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:58
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kbrooksnalioth: yup08:59
masahiroHelp, ubuntu noob here!08:59
martinReka do I type that into RUN?08:59
kbrooksnalioth: like xfce. or something08:59
rekamartin: apps->sys->terminal08:59
kbrooksmartin: open a gnome-terminal08:59
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masahiroI have a question about sound, what channel should I ak in this?08:59
naliothkbrooks: search sourceforge, there are boodles08:59
kbrooksmartin: ask here08:59
kbrookser08:59
kbrooksmasahiro: *08:59
kbrooksmartin: sorry, i apologize ;)08:59
naliothmasahiro: what is the problem?08:59
martinAlright, I opened it up, now what?08:59
kbrooksmartin: type that09:00
martinIt's alright =)09:00
masahirook, i have no sound. when i try the volume control i get No volume control elements and/or devices found.09:00
asasewhat's  shiny ?09:00
kbrooksmartin: the command09:00
masahiroin windows it works09:00
martinStarting from Sudo right?09:00
masahirosudo? i tried various commands from lots of sites beggining with sudo but i didnt understand them09:01
kbrooksmartin: yes. sudo enables you to run apps as the superuser09:01
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masahiroah ok09:01
binbrainmasahiro what kind of soundcard is it09:01
masahiroits onboard09:01
binbrainon snap09:01
naliothmasahiro: be careful doin that. the wrong command prefaced with "sudo" can destroy your system09:01
kbrooksmasahiro: heh. i just had to type what sudo was ............:P09:01
masahiroi think its ac97 compatible09:02
binbrainyeah09:02
binbraini can't get mine to work either09:02
binbrainsame card09:02
binbraini gave up09:02
martinI did what yall said and it opened up this script editor.09:02
masahiroim using a hp t760.uk and its an asus board09:02
rekamartin: scroll down and look for lines like this: Modes          "800x600" "640x480"09:02
kbrooksnalioth: dude.....sure, but sudo reauthenicates when you open a  new gnome terminal09:02
rekamartin: change all of them to: Modes          "1024x768"09:03
martinAlright09:03
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kbrooksnalioth: so the chances of that are mitigated09:03
naliothkbrooks: but if the user is ignorant of the command, does it matter?09:03
kbrooksnalioth: nope.....09:03
ivanoxwhich is the best way to search for installed software and uninstall it ?09:03
naliothivanox: synaptic09:03
kbrooksivanox: synsaptic.09:03
hondjeivanox: using synaptic, if you're a newbie09:03
hondjedeborphan, if you're funky09:03
asasewhat's  shiny ?09:03
ivanoxI dont want to use synaptic, as it doesnt remove the deps09:03
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ivanoxany other way?09:03
hondjeYou can get stupid and do like, dpkg -P `deborphan -a --find-config --libdevel | awk '{print $2}'`09:04
rekaasase: a mirror.  what do i win?09:04
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kbrooksivanox: i dont know if deborphan will renive the deps?09:04
hondjeThat'd be dumb, though09:04
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kbrookshondje: what does dpkg -P do?09:04
hondjekbrooks: purge09:04
kbrooksah okay09:04
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hondjekbrooks: good for when you forget to add --purge, and crap lies around09:05
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lamberthello09:05
kbrooksso it purges ....... heh,  awk rules09:05
lambertsalut09:05
masahirois there like a noob tutorial on getting your sound working?09:05
lamberttite question:09:05
hondjekbrooks: aye!09:05
kbrooksthe concept of columns have been massaged into awk09:05
hondjekbrooks: I use that on things that don't have X or get dev stuff done09:05
rekamasahiro: if you're desperate: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly09:06
kbrooksgawk to be specific09:06
rekafor gnome09:06
kbrooksg == gnu09:06
hondjeyeah, gawk > awk09:06
martinAlright I changed all of them09:06
martinNow what do I do?09:06
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rekamartin: save and close, then ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X09:06
masahiroreka: I will try that, thanks, I will be back if I get any other bad stuff09:06
kbrookshondje: on a linux system, awk -> gawk09:06
iconquick question about installing linux nVidia drivers. Is there a page on how to shut down Gnome/X in Ubuntu?09:07
martinSo I type "ctrl+alt+backspace" only?09:07
hondjekbrooks: yeah, makes me happy, awk doesn't have $count IIRC09:07
kbrooksln -s gawk awk09:07
rekamartin: yep09:07
kbrooks:)_09:07
albackerhalt09:07
martinAlright wish me luck09:07
albackerno this halts the PC :S09:07
kbrookshondje: what's $count? oh wait09:07
kbrooksdoh09:07
kbrookscount's a integer between 1 and 909:08
kbrooksgot it.....09:08
mjricon, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop09:08
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lambertpuis je installer Konqueror sur ubuntu sans que sa genere de problemes?(car ubuntu est sous gnome)09:09
MartinAhh, I didn't work.09:09
MartinDo I have to log into Gnome?09:09
rekaMartin: yes09:09
MartinAlright09:09
lambertplease respond09:09
lambertmy question09:09
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HappyFoollambert: please ask your question in english09:09
HappyFoollambert: or ask in #ubuntu-fr09:10
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naliothlambert: there are few people here who speak french09:10
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lambertok euhmm..euhm..09:10
BauhnCan anyone help me with removing GRUB so i only can boot windows (i need to remove the linux-hdd, maybe even remove linux totally)?09:10
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martinAlright, It didn't work.09:10
martinSorry.09:11
concept10Bauhn, why would you want to do something crazy like that?09:11
rekamartin: what monitor do you have?09:11
naliothconcept10: he's tired of linux and wants windows only09:11
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hondjekbrooks: I use count$ with printf in gawk, about the only other thing I do with it besides grab columns :)09:11
lambertcan I install Konqueror on ubuntu without there are problems?(because ubuntu is with gnome)escuse my english09:11
concept10reinstall windows, it will rewrite grub09:11
naliothwho knows the dd command to clean Bauhn's mbr09:11
naliothlambert: oui, 0 problem09:12
lambertok09:12
lambertthanks09:12
HappyFoollambert: you can install 'kubuntu-desktop' to get kde09:12
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tmdcahi. i have reconfigured my xserver so i should be able to have higher than 800x600 at 70hz but the changes dont work, they are gone when i restart xserver....i can use 1042x768 but only at 60hz... help!09:12
Bauhnconcept10, becuase the hdd that linux is on right now is on 6gb and i need to put a 120gb hdd in it's place and i need to use windows during the time i'm changing hdd09:12
HappyFoollambert: including konqueror09:12
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martinI have a HP MX7009:12
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lambertI can't??09:12
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rekatmdca: what monitor do you have?09:12
microhaxoguys, what is the best DATA/AUDO burning package that i can get, i wanna be able to burn VCD's and iso's09:13
Bauhnnalioth, do you think you can help me with uninstalling _everything_ that comes with ubuntu_09:13
Bauhn?09:13
HappyFoollambert: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' ?09:13
naliothlambert: installer "kubuntu-desktop" with 0 problems09:13
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concept10microhaxo, k3b09:13
martinreka: I have a HP MX7009:13
syndnalioth: did youo connect?09:13
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naliothBauhn: that would not remove the grub loader from your /mbr09:13
HappyFoolBauhn: that won't help you. you need to fix the boot sector of your first hard drive09:13
lambertok thanks09:13
lambertgoodbye09:13
naliothsynd: not yet, sit and spin09:13
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syndnalioth: my thing says someone connected from a gnome desk09:14
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tmdcareka, a compaq, quite old thing. i hade 1024 at 70hz before at debian...09:14
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naliothsynd: didnt hear a thing, if it did09:14
Bauhnnalioth, do you think i would work with "fdisk /mbr grub" or something like that?09:14
lukus001Is hauppage tv card supported? and how can i install /watch tv?09:14
rekatmdca: so the res is fine, it's just the refresh rate?09:14
naliothBauhn: i dont think so09:14
tmdcareka, Yes.09:15
naliothBauhn: you couldnt find a boot image from bootdisk.com?09:15
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martinreka, I have a MX70 HP09:15
Bauhnnalioth, i have knoppix live-cd now. but i tried "fdisk /mbr" but it gave the same answer as in ubuntu & knoppix09:15
rekatmdca, martin: you both probably don't have your monitor refresh rates set correctly in xorg.conf09:16
kong0i havent installed my audio card and now i cant play vidoe or music!!09:16
kong0wtf dude i only have drivers for windows!!!09:17
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rekayou should really google to find the correct paramaters, but you might be able to use the example rates on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FixVideoResolutionHowto09:17
martinOh alright.09:17
kiwibirdneed some help with firefox and java.. just got java 1.5.03, installed it from the bin and symlinked the  libjavaplugin_oji.so into mozilla-firefox/plugins, it shows up with a buncha info on about:plugins but no suffixes, and when i click .jnlp links, it just asks me whether to save or what.. anyone know what's up?09:17
Bauhnnalioth, what do you mean? that the windows hdd is master? or the linux hdd is master?09:17
martinSo I go back in and change it all back to 1024 768 right?09:17
kong0i only have linux09:17
rekamartin: post your xorg.conf to ubuntu.pastebin.com please09:18
tmdcareka, where in that file should i edit?09:18
rekatmdca: the relevant section can be found on the link i posted09:18
naliothwho can help Bauhn with his commands for fdisking his /mbr. he has a knoppix livecd09:18
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Seveashe shoud mount is filesystems, chroot into them, mount proc again, run grub-install '(hd0)'09:19
BauhnSeveas, can you help me?09:20
kiwibirdanyone able to help..?09:20
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martinAlright Reka09:20
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rekamartin: link?09:21
kong0how should i do to get sound on my linux?09:21
rekakiwibird: with what?09:21
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martinOh wait a second, I'm really slow09:21
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HappyFoolBauhn: you can boot the knoppix cd?09:21
BauhnHappyFool, i have booted it now09:22
HappyFoolBauhn: do you have a windows xp cd?09:22
Bauhnno09:22
kbrookswhat's ar?09:22
kbrooksanyone?09:22
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mypapithmm i've a request for ubuntu developers... would you please include a menu for broadband/dsl users to connect to internet09:22
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dkghi09:22
mypapitfor the future version of ubuntu09:22
hondjekbrooks: ar? the command?09:22
kbrooksyes09:22
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dkgi got strange errors about gnome-applet-data when i tryed to upgrade warrty.09:23
hondjekbrooks: ar -x is for like, unwrapping .debs the bad way, or .a libs09:23
martinShould I use PHP Reka?09:23
kbrookshondje: i want to install it......09:23
dkgnow i do dist-upgrade to horray.09:23
kbrookshondje: but09:23
hondjeSo I'd guess the reverse, ar is used to make your .a libs09:23
dkgdo you think this will work?09:23
shakuhashianyone using ubuntu with selinux?09:23
BauhnHappyFool, so, what do you think i should do?09:23
kbrooksE: Couldn't find package ar09:23
rekamartin: use none09:23
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reka*no09:23
Seveaskbrooks, ar isn't a package by itself09:23
HappyFoolkbrooks: try binutils, or maybe build-essential09:23
Seveasand it's already there...09:23
kbrooksok09:23
HappyFoolBauhn: standby09:23
martinhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/30150609:24
saik0I'm having a major hardware problem. My server wont turn on!09:24
BauhnHappyFool, ok.. i'll wait09:24
sergiohol09:24
sergioCUANTO FRIKI SUELTO09:24
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Seveassergio, we speak english in here...09:24
kbrooksare header files free?/09:24
kong0did u all have to install the drivers for the sound?09:24
tmdcareka, I have read the guide, but there is nothing wrong with my xorg.conf09:24
kbrookslol09:24
kbrooksj/k09:24
shakuhashisergio: do you live in Brazil?09:25
sergioYA VEO09:25
veronicaI wanted to mount my home directories on another drive other than the / directory ....is this possible?09:25
sergioSPAIN09:25
kiwibirdreka: i've got a problem with getting firefox to work with the java plugin for jdk1.5.03, i've symlinked it to libjavaplugin_oji.so, and it shows in about:plugins, but clicking .jnlp-files doesn't work and java applets don't show09:25
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hondjekbrooks: check the binutils pkg09:25
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saik0Veronica: yes09:25
Seveassergio,  va en #ubuntu-es por espaol...09:25
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sergioOK09:25
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hondjekbrooks: ar is in that pkg09:26
rekatmdca: post your xorg.conf file to ubuntu.pastebin.com please09:26
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Seveashondje, that package should be installed09:26
veronicasaik0: i thought i mounted it but it says " your home directory is listes as /home/rui but it does not exist...."09:26
hondjeoh, I"m more than a day late, I'll just stfu :)09:26
kbrooksty09:26
Seveaslsb depends on it09:26
Seveasand ubuntu-desktop depends on lsb :)09:26
veronicasaik0: how can i correct it?09:26
rekamartin: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/30150809:27
hondjethen why no ar for kbrooks, I wonder ? It's in /usr/bin09:27
kbrooksi didnt install    ubuntu-desktop09:27
bluemaxquestion... i put some postscript fonts (.pfm format) in ~/.fonts but X isn't recognizing them. what do i have to do to use them?09:27
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Seveaskbrooks, ah :009:27
veronicaI want my /home directories on the sata drive i have09:27
kbrooksso there09:27
Seveaswell, install binutils then :)09:27
kiwibirdhum..guess no one can help..09:27
Seveasor better: lsb09:27
veronicasaik0: but my / is on the IDE drive09:27
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kbrooksSeveas: i installed build-essential09:27
naliothhondje: big cup or little cup ;)09:27
HappyFoolBauhn: hm. I found this, and it may be on knoppix: http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/76201/gpart/09:27
HappyFoolBauhn: however, it looks risky09:27
Seveaskbrooks, that should have done it too09:27
rekakiwibird: firfox plugins aren't my forte. sorry :-/09:27
naliothkiwibird: try back later09:28
hondjenalioth: BIG09:28
BauhnHappyFool, what could happen?09:28
HappyFoolBauhn: i suspect it is on knoppix based on this: http://greenfly.org/talks/knoppix_hacks/LWE-2004.html09:28
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martinThank you09:28
kbrooksheh09:28
HappyFoolBauhn: well, your master boot record could be trashed09:28
naliothBauhn: hose your drive09:28
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rekamartin: replace the existing xorg.conf with that one (just copy and paste), then restart X09:28
saik0Veronica: I've never moved my home partiotion after setting up a distro. I'm guessing it would be as simple as copying all the data ands then changing your fstab but I could be wrong09:28
veronicawhy the fstab?09:29
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naliothHappyFool: Bauhn wants his /mbr to be removed like trash (no nasty bits left there, tho)09:29
Octaneanyone know where i can get w32codecs?09:29
hondjeOctane: mplayer's site09:29
HappyFoolnalioth: take a look at the first url09:29
naliothOctane: www.mplayerhq.hu09:29
Octanehondje, the package?09:29
Seveasnalioth, completely back to windows mbr..?09:29
BauhnHappyFool, fuck.. but isn't there anything that can restore everything to default?09:29
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HappyFoolnalioth: or just look in the description in synpatic for gpart09:29
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seven_six_twoif anyone is interested, I started a public gnocatan server, North American map. it's posted on meta-server if you want to play!09:29
SeveasBauhn, do you want grub removed or reinstalled?09:29
hondjeOctane: marillat09:29
kbrooksseven_six_two: SPAMMER09:30
rekaOctane:09:30
reka#deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main09:30
reka#deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main09:30
HappyFoolBauhn: i am not certain, but i believe this application may do that09:30
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rekawithout the #'s09:30
tmdcareka, i have post it now.....09:30
rekatmdca: link?09:30
BauhnSeveas, removed.. i cant remove this hdd, but i must..09:30
Bauhnand that's why i want it removed09:30
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tmdcareka, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/30150909:30
SeveasBauhn, then get yourself a windows boot floppy09:30
kbrooksSeveas: ?09:30
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Seveasand run fdisk /mbr from there09:30
Seveaskbrooks..?09:30
naliothSeveas: he wants NO mbr, so it loads ntldr instead09:30
kbrooksseven_six_two: get a life09:30
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saik0The backports repo also has w32codecs, but I'm not sure backports is any better than mixing repos09:31
HappyFoolSeveas: apparently has a lack of windows boot media09:31
HappyFoolthat is, Bauhn does09:31
rekatmdca:09:31
Seveasnalioth, fdisk /mbr will make it use NTLDR again...09:31
rekaHorizSync       28-4909:31
reka VertRefresh     43-7209:31
kbrooksSeveas: why arree you opping yourself up09:31
naliothBauhn: we go round and round, don't we?09:31
BauhnSeveas, i cant. i'm on dreamhack and it isnt anyone here with a floppy09:31
kbrooksare*09:31
rekatmdca: seems  kind of low09:31
SeveasBauhn, ah...09:31
HappyFoolBauhn: isn't there someone with a windows xp cd ?09:31
naliothSeveas: we've been discussing all the ways for a few hours now09:31
tmdcareka, i know. its an ooold screen.....09:31
microhaxoarg09:31
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kbrooksnalioth: who has a problem09:31
naliothSeveas: he's kinda limited on his software (cds, floppys, etc)09:31
seven_six_twokbrooks: I have a life. but i also have some spare time.09:31
=== microhaxo dloading pirated windows for repair :|
bluemaxdoes anyone know how to get Postscript Type 1 fonts to work with X?09:31
kcburyshakerhello everyone09:32
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BauhnHappyFool, of course i'm trying to find one. but it isnt going very well09:32
naliothSeveas: know the command to follow "dd" taht will clean his mbr?09:32
hondjebluefoxicy: Don't hold me to it, but I think you might have to run the font server for that09:32
SeveasBauhn, I certainly know of no other way than running fdisk /mbr09:32
Bauhnbut wait, i'll go ask a friend in the other end of the hall. i'll be right back09:32
kcburyshakeri just installed ubuntu for the first time  and this is my first experience with linux09:32
HappyFooli reckon gpart might do something, but i don't know if it will right a 'windows' mbr09:32
Seveasnalioth, dd can restore the mbr if you have a good one09:32
kcburyshakerim liking it so far09:32
HappyFooland i don't want to try it on my computer ;)09:33
rekatmdca: well like i said before, it's best to use the rates out there i.e. google your model and "horizsync" or try hs: 30-96 and vs 50 - 16009:33
kbrooksSeveas: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=109:33
saik0So what would cause a computer to not turn on...all the LEDs are on =\09:33
kbrookshavent tested09:33
Seveaskbrooks, that'll wipe the MBR clean09:33
kbrooksyes09:33
hondjetmdca: or better, sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange09:33
rekakcburyshaker: that's good09:33
kbrooksthat's right09:33
Seveasso it won't do no good if you want to boot from that disk :)09:33
kbrooksSeveas: ummm09:33
kcburyshakeris it really more stable than windows?09:33
hondjetmdca: first two will be your horizsync, other two will be your vertrefresh09:33
Octanehondje, can you pm me that deb package one more time?09:34
bluemaxhondje: i think you were talking to me :) where is the font server? please excuse my cluelessness...09:34
Seveaskbrooks, windows needs something present in the MBR too, that's what fdisk /mbr does...09:34
kbrooksSeveas: okay09:34
syndkcburyshaker: a broken rocking chair is more stable than windows09:34
kcburyshakerohhhh09:34
rekakcburyshaker: depends on who you ask.09:34
HappyFoolkcburyshaker: stability is at least partly a function of hardware and drivers09:34
VarangerI built from sources the newest ALSA, i'd like to return the the ones installed with dpkg..... how can I reinstall them?09:34
naliothSeveas: no way to wipe a mbr from within knoppix/ubuntu?09:34
HappyFooli rarely have crashes on windows09:34
hondjebluemax: yah, I think for that you need to run XFS09:34
rekasynd: a broken rocking chair wouldn't move ... that's pretty stable :-/09:35
hondjebluemax: but setting that up is wicked for a newbie09:35
Seveasnalioth, you can wipe it with dd, but that won't restore it for windows...09:35
klaymtell me a good shooter game from the ubuntu repos?09:35
TokenBadon ftp09:35
naliothSeveas: in knoppix, would "fdisk /dev/hd(#)/mbr work?09:35
TokenBadis there some delay on between files09:35
Seveasnalioth, nope09:35
microhaxoguys09:35
HappyFoolnalioth, seveas: take a look at gpart (available in universe) -- i think it might restore mbr's, but i'm not sure09:35
TokenBadguy said he download files09:35
syndreka:  :)09:35
rekaklaym: there's an ubuntu gaming topic on ubuntuforums.org09:35
microhaxoin gnome09:35
TokenBadbut there was a long delay between files09:35
VarangerI built from sources the newest ALSA, i'd like to return the the ones installed with dpkg..... how can I reinstall them?09:35
bluemaxhondje: ok, i'll look it up on google and give it a try... thanks09:35
microhaxohow can i axx my NTFS partitions?09:35
naliothall this for lack of a floppy09:35
klaymok09:35
Seveasknoddix/linux fdisk knows nothing about windows mbr afaik09:35
microhaxoi dont see them in computer09:36
Seveasmicrohaxo: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically09:36
hondjebluemax: If you got a sec, I'm digging in my bookmars09:36
naliothmicrohaxo: do what to your NTFS?09:36
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microhaxoi wanna axx a file09:36
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jbroomedelete?09:36
naliothmicrohaxo: axx = access or axx = AXE (chop up)09:36
jbroomeremove?09:36
Seveasnalioth, i think he means access, spelling is difficult for some people ;)09:36
microhaxoaccess09:36
microhaxo;p;09:36
bluemaxhondje: ok09:36
gnuyenhi, for some reason totem is all faded09:36
jbroomesilly me, trying to read english09:36
microhaxoneed09:37
gnuyenand it looks like the color depth is less than it should be09:37
Varangerhondje: I built from sources the newest ALSA, i'd like to return the the ones installed with dpkg..... how can I reinstall them?09:37
Bauhnhe didn't have a windows cd, but i spoked about changing something in the master boot record09:37
gnuyeni'm using totem-xine, but xine-ui works fine09:37
microhaxoto get my elite topsource FTP IP so i can get windows09:37
naliothmicrohaxo: waht Seveas said09:37
gnuyenas does mplayer09:37
microhaxohahaha09:37
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microhaxonice one seveas09:37
Razor-Xhondje: would you, perchance, have emacs experience?09:37
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hondjeVaranger: make uninstall, the dpkg -i <the ones>09:37
naliothBauhn: nobody around you has a spare floppy?09:37
Fabiangood evening09:37
hondjeRazor-X: No, one OS is enough for me :)09:37
yahalomwhere do i go for freenode issues? #freenode has demi gods stealing my voice09:37
Razor-Xhondje: aww man!09:38
Fabiandoes anybody know a good program to download music? Something like Kazaa for Linux???09:38
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naliothRazor-X: are you in here cussin?09:38
yahalomFabian, limewire09:38
Bauhnnalioth, fuck, forgot to ask him that.. brb09:38
Razor-Xhondje: I have three on this box, Windows, Linux, and emacs ;)09:38
Razor-Xnalioth: nopes09:38
Fabianyahalom, where do I get that?09:38
Razor-X*nalioth09:38
naliothFabian: gtk-gnutella09:38
hondjebluemax: hey neat09:38
hondjebluemax: don't need XFS for that, either, just install them like any other font09:38
Fabiannalioth, which one's better? gnutella or limewire?09:38
rekamartin: how are you going?09:38
Razor-XFabian: same thing09:38
Razor-Xthey both use the same network09:38
jbroomedoesn't limewire use the gnutella network?09:38
scorpixFabian: aMule09:38
yahalomFabian, www.limewire.com. but just follow the ubuntu guide cos u'll need to install java. www.ubuntuguide.org09:38
jbroomeapparently so. :)09:39
Bauhnnope, he didnt have that09:39
naliothFabian: they access the same network, limewire requires java, gtk-gnutella doesnt09:39
FabianI got java09:39
bluemaxhondje: i already put the fonts into ~/.fonts but i can't use them in any app09:39
Razor-Xand java == CPU drain09:39
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hondje$HOME/.fonts? Really?09:39
Razor-Xhow can you specify color schemes in emacs command-line?09:39
bluemaxhondje: even after restarting09:39
kong0can i use msn on my linux?09:39
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Di42lo`speaking about aMule..how can i make hebrew support ?09:39
HappyFoolkong0: yeah, use Gaim09:39
Razor-Xkong0: yeah, you can09:39
Seveaskong0, of course09:39
jbroomekong0: use gaim to access MSN09:39
Di42lo`(right-to-left language)09:39
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martinHaha, I think when I saved it the first time I saved it accidently on "READ ONLY"09:40
kong0wheres gaim?09:40
gnuyengaim.sf.net09:40
microhaxowtf09:40
HappyFoolApplications -> Internet -> Gaim09:40
Seveaskong0, applications->internet->gaim09:40
microhaxoi cant VIEW my other HArd drives09:40
microhaxowhyt?109:40
rekamicrohaxo: cos they ain't mounted09:40
microhaxoi ran that script09:40
hondjebluemax: /msg me09:40
microhaxoi cant see them in computer09:40
microhaxoi just see filesystem09:40
microhaxocdrom09:40
microhaxoetc09:40
microhaxoi have 3hds09:40
Seveasmicrohaxo, drives don't appear in the computer09:41
microhaxowhere are they?09:41
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Seveasthey appear in the filesystem09:41
microhaxolol im used to kde09:41
Seveasunder /media/09:41
veronicamy /home directory is on my second sata drive but ubuntu cant see it....what can I do?09:41
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HappyFoolveronica: how have you tried to mount it?09:41
veronicadont know ..how...09:41
HappyFoolveronica: ah09:42
veronicaHappyFool: what command ?09:42
microhaxoerr09:42
veronicaHappyFool: when i start ubuntu wont let me log in cuz it cant see the /home drive09:42
microhaxognome wont open my program files folder?09:42
HappyFoolveronica: hmm09:42
veronicaHappyFool: i dont know how to mount09:42
HappyFoolveronica: ok, can you access the machine at all? In recovery mode, perhaps?09:42
Seveasmicrohaxo, can you pm me the output of the following commands:09:43
Seveascat /etc/fstab09:43
Seveasmount09:43
veronicaHappyFool: i am in console....cuz desktop wont work09:43
yahalomSeveas, any ideas what freenode's port is?09:43
HappyFoolveronica: can you easily cut/paste data from that machine to irc or http ?09:43
Seveasport for what?09:43
kong0what is this error message?: I have discovered that a panel is already in use and will now terminate me.09:43
yahalomSeveas, irc.freenode.net <port>\09:43
veronicaHappyFool: not really ....i can type it....09:43
HappyFoolveronica: hm09:44
veronicaHappyFool:09:44
rekakong0: arnie's after you?09:44
Seveaskong0, you tried started gnome-panel while it was running09:44
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kong0ps. im swedish so i dont really know how it is in english09:44
veronicaHappyFool:what do you want to see09:44
Seveasyahalom, use netstat -t to find out09:44
Seveasprobably 666709:44
HappyFoolveronica: ok. i'd like to see /etc/fstab, and the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'09:44
HappyFoolveronica: there's a pastebin you can use...09:44
kong0seveas: thats true but its said : gnome is shutting down and then i pressed the restart button09:44
HappyFoolveronica: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:44
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kong0and now that error message isnt going away09:45
microhaxoseveas it works09:45
microhaxoi can see em09:45
Seveasok, nice :)09:45
yahalomany of u guys chat through opera?09:45
HappyFoolveronica: that will be quite a bit to type though09:45
veronicaHappyFool:it on a different box09:45
yahalomthe irc client in opera that is09:45
Seveasopera is a browser, not a chat client :)09:45
kong0if i dont have any sound what should i do?09:45
HappyFoolveronica: you were asking about RAID earlier, i think -- i don't know anything about that09:46
Seveasit would be the same as having a text editor that is also a browser, mail client, etc...09:46
Seveasoh wait there's emacs...09:46
HappyFoolSeveas: hey, watch it :P09:46
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veronicaim not worries about raid right now...09:46
yahalomSeveas, it has an embedded irc client, just like it has e-mail09:46
kong0it sais input module missing09:46
microhaxoGuys09:46
microhaxohow do i use Secure connection through GFTP?09:46
HappyFoolveronica: ok09:46
veronicai jsut want to access /home on my second drive09:46
yahalomSeveas, it connected to irc.opera.com but not irc.freenode.net, even though others succeeded09:46
naliothmicrohaxo: select ssh2 from the dropdown box09:46
saik0microhaxo: sftp?09:46
microhaxocoo09:46
HappyFoolveronica: how long is your /etc/fstab? how many lines?09:46
microhaxono fgtp09:46
microhaxogftp09:47
HappyFoolveronica: i only really need to see the entry for '/' and for '/home'09:47
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veronicaHappyFool: 6 lines09:47
naliothbrb09:47
yahalomSeveas, i didnt know about it till today :)09:47
kbrooksveronica: cat /etc/fstab | wc -l09:47
saik0microhaxo: sftp is a protocol, gftp is a client. what are you trying to connect to?09:47
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microhaxosecure FTP server09:48
HappyFoolveronica: and i will need to see the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' , but i don't need the headers -- start from the line starting with '/dev/'09:48
lpkI need to launch xbindkeys on startup, how can i add that to GDM?09:48
Seveasmicrohaxo, you see a drop down box with protocols09:48
Seveasftp, http, etc...09:48
Seveasuse SSH2 there09:48
veronicaHappyFool: with that command there are 9 lines09:48
microhaxoit sticks on 3 protocol initialization09:48
kong0Doesnt ANYbody know? am i supposed to install drivers for my soundcard?!!09:48
microhaxo?09:48
Seveasmicrohaxo, otherwise use places->connect to server09:49
HappyFoolveronica: ok, can you type out those lines at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl ?09:49
kong0ffs man09:49
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saik0nalioth: microhaxo: select ssh2 from the dropdown box....what he said09:49
SeveasHappyFool, there's a commandline script to post it at the pastebin :)09:49
HappyFoolSeveas: machine is not networked, i don't think09:49
kong0ok...an easier question: DID you akl09:49
Seveaso09:49
theD3viLWhat is this error? xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL?09:49
HappyFoolSeveas: and probably in recovery mode (eek)09:49
kong0fuck..all isntall drivers for your sound?09:49
HappyFoolkong0: not usually09:50
Seveaskong0, usually you don't need to09:50
SeveasI never had to (12 machines)09:50
kong0then should i install something else?09:50
rekatheD3viL: what are you trying to open?09:50
kong0like java?09:50
theD3viLreka, wmv file.09:50
rekatheD3viL: codecs installed?09:50
HappyFoolkong0: when you login, do you here any sounds ?09:50
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kong0i have xmms but that one went broke09:50
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rekaxine comes with codecs doesn't it?09:51
theD3viLreka, i have installed it09:51
kong0nah..but i hear sound when i open folders and such09:51
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HappyFoolkong0: so you do hear some sounds ?09:51
kong0yes09:51
Seveaskong0, ahhh, just not in xmms right?09:51
Seveasor other programs09:51
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kong0i dont hear music and videos09:51
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Seveaskong0, which media player do you use?09:51
kong0it sais inputmodule missing09:51
Seveasoww, codec problem :)09:52
kong0totem09:52
Seveastotem-gstreamer (standard) or totem-xine?09:52
Seveasand which file formats?09:52
redLAWi hvae problem with compiling programs witt ./configure command, ./configure tells me that i'dont have GLIB on my system09:52
kong0there were no decoders found to handle the stream09:52
racket2424hey, how would I go about giving myself write priveledges to an external hard drive?09:52
SeveasredLAW, install glib-dev09:52
HappyFoolveronica: i assume you're typing stuff at the paste-bin -- please let us know when you're finished. post the final url here09:52
Seveasracket2424, what is the filesystem09:52
kong0i couldnt find mplayer in synaptics09:52
Seveaskong0: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats09:53
kong0would it be in multimedia?09:53
redLAWSeveas, is it on cd09:53
Seveaskong0, read that09:53
rekatheD3viL: i defer to Seveas. it sounds like a codec problem, but i'm not sure if xine comes with it's own codecs or not09:53
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kong0well i cant install files in zip...09:53
Seveasxine comes with own codecs09:53
kong0somehow its not working...09:53
magogget vlc it comes with codecs09:53
SeveasredLAW, no09:53
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racket2424its a an ndas09:53
theD3viLreka, i have installed w32codecs09:53
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redLAWwhen will be dvd of ubuntu done?09:54
Seveasdennis@mirage ~ $ apt-cache search libglib | grep dev09:54
Seveaslibglib1.2-dev - Development files for GLib library09:54
Seveaslibglib2.0-dev - Development files for the GLib library09:54
lsuactiafnertheD3viL : on an 64bit system?09:54
SeveasredLAW, there is one09:54
Octaneis there a guide to building ubuntu kernels?09:54
SeveasOctane, yes09:54
Seveason the wiki09:54
OctaneSeveas, great thanks man09:54
klaymis there some point and click style war games for ubuntu? (warcraft, starcraft, c&c, kknd etc. type)09:54
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mjrklaym, freecraft comes to mind09:55
rekaklaym: did you check out the ubforums topic?09:55
hondjeklaym: wesnoth09:55
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fesjahi, how could it be possible that i have beagle installed twice? throught the apt were all the changes i made09:55
racket2424Seveas....it is a NDAS network drive connected via USB09:55
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bufalo73hi09:56
naliothredLAW: dvd is available by torrent atm09:56
klaymreka: yea I searched it but typing my question here gets a faster answer :)09:56
rekaklaym: lazy bugger.09:56
veronicaHappyFool: i dont hink I'll be able to ....im trying to work something about09:56
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redLAWnalioth, is there any download url with .iso dvd file09:56
OctaneSeveas, i run kubuntu, should i follow these same instructions?09:56
lsuactiafnerbtw is there a tool to test a kernel if it will boot before rebooting it?09:57
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SeveasOctane, yes09:57
Seveasracket2424, that should mount automatically09:57
Seveasi guess it didn't?09:57
masahiroNope, still no joy :(09:57
racket2424it mounts, but I am not given write privledges09:57
racket2424i can read, and execute09:57
matjan_how do i enable the universe repository?09:57
rekaubotu: tell matjan_ about repositories09:58
kong0hey man that site didnt help a thing...cant u just say some codecs so i can emerge them?09:58
HappyFoolmatjan_: you can use synaptic09:58
Seveasracket2424, is it NTFS perhaps?09:58
HappyFoolmatjan_: synaptic is at system->administration->synaptic09:58
HappyFoolmatjan_: in that application, choose settings->repositories, and click 'Add'09:58
naliothredLAW: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/09:58
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matjan_hwppyfool: thanks09:59
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kong0Guess you couldnt then...!!09:59
racket2424seveas, I just checked the online site, and yea it is preformatted to ntfs09:59
Seveasracket2424, there is no easy way to write to ntfs from linux10:00
veronicaHappyFool: that machine will not go into the desktop  so i cant paste...10:00
rekakong0: this isn't gentoo10:00
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HappyFoolveronica: yes. so type ;)10:00
bufalo73racket2424, maybe using captive?10:00
veronicathe machine thinks my home directory is in /home/rui10:00
Seveasthe difficult way is compiling luks and captive NTFS, having windows installed on your PC and hoping it works (this is of course not for the lighthearted)10:00
masahiroi still have no sound :'(10:00
HappyFoolyou can access the web from the machine you are ircing from?10:00
veronicaHappyFool: rui is me10:00
pvhHi, I'm having trouble getting java applets to run under Firefox. I have Java enabled under the options and about:plugins shows it as being there and still no love. Could someone help me figure out what's wrong?10:01
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veronicaHappyFool: so i have to tell it that its on a different drive?10:01
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OctaneSeveas, im a little confused as to which howto i shoul dfollow10:01
racket2424so, my best bet would be to reformat in FAT?10:01
veronicaHappyFool: yes.....10:01
bufalo73Seveas, on a hoary kernel half of this work is already done10:01
HappyFoolveronica: it is difficult for me to help you without the information i have requested10:01
SeveasOctane, pick one that says: use make-kpkg10:01
veronicaHappyFool:ok10:01
HappyFoolveronica: i need to know how ubuntu has tried to mount /home, and what your partitions are10:01
bufalo73racket2424, try first installing captive10:01
Octane"Unfortunately, the rest of this document describes make-kpkg because I didn't know better when I wrote it. I suggest following either the KernelByHandHowto (if you just want everything to work) or the KernelBuildpackageHowto (if you plan on developing or modifying the kernel often)."10:02
HappyFoolveronica: if you do not want to use the pastebin, you can send it to me in irc using /query10:02
X7Ci need help on a DLINK DWL-G520+ running on ubuntu... anybody has one of these running?10:02
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SeveasOctane, just read'em all (it's good to have read different views) and pick the one you like :)10:02
masahiroSo how can I get the sound to work?10:03
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OctaneSeveas, im still stuck on trying to figure out whihch packages i need to get ! :)10:03
kbrookspick one wwwwway10:03
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Hartihi10:03
Randallhow would I skip the timezone setup during install10:03
bufalo73X7C, try http://www.metacrawler.com/info.metac/search/web/DWL-G520%252B+linux10:03
SeveasOctane, at least build-essential, linux-source-2.6.10-5 and kernel-package10:04
X7Cthanks... i'm having a hard time on this one....10:04
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Octanewhy 2.6.10 and not 2.6.11?10:04
SeveasOctane, apt-get build-dep linux-image-2.6.10-5-68610:04
Seveas:)10:04
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Hartisorry for my bad english. how can i play .wax files in ubuntu?10:04
Octanerunning amd64 :)10:04
SeveasOctane, 2.6.11 is not supported and known to contain bugs10:04
SeveasOctane, apt-get build-dep linux-image-2.6.10-5-amd6410:04
Octanethats a good reason!10:04
bartekphi10:04
kong0How Do You Open Zip Files And Install Them? All I Get Is A List Of Files Wich I Cant Open...10:04
kong0??10:04
Seveaskong0, please don't use excessive caps...10:05
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bufalo73Harti, wax? isn't it wav? :)10:05
pocohi10:05
Hartino .wax10:05
Seveaskong0, unxip <zipfile>10:05
kong0okey?10:05
Seveasunzip*10:05
Hartiits i livestream10:05
Seveasand read the README file10:05
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kbrooksI want to use SELinux.10:05
kong0there are none10:05
masahiroWHEN I start Volume Control, it says "No volume control elements and/or devices found.".10:05
Seveaskong0, then read other sources of documentation that are in the zipfile...10:05
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kbrooksis there a packagee enabling selinux10:06
Octanei also need kernel-package and build-essential10:06
pocois it possible to install an ubuntu from an existing linux distro, without using an install cdrom?10:06
SeveasOctane, yes :)10:06
veronicaHappyFool:ok here goes10:06
veronicaproc          /proc   /proc      default       0      010:06
veronica/dev/had1     /        ext3     defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 110:06
veronica/devv/sda1    /home     ext3     default,     0     210:06
veronica/dev/hda2     none      swap      sw          0      010:06
veronica/dev/hdc      /media/cdrom0 UDF-ISO966010:06
veronicaRO,user,noauto   0                010:06
veronica/dev/fd0/   media/floppy0   auto    rw,user,noauto   0  010:06
HappyFoolveronica: no10:06
HappyFoolaargh10:06
veronica10:06
HappyFooli said use the pastebin10:06
Seveaspoco, only if the distribution is based on debian :)10:06
HappyFoolor /query me10:06
veronicasorry10:06
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Seveasveronica, DO NOT PASTE IN HERE10:06
Seveasread the topic10:06
pocoSeveas, im using a debian, i just read some lines about ubuntu and want to try it10:06
Seveasand read what people say, it's been said to you numerous times...10:06
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jbroomekick!10:06
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Octanepoco, what are you waiting for10:07
pocobut dont have a cdr at the moment10:07
Octanepoco,  do a net install10:07
pocoOctane, any url ?10:07
Seveaspoco, do you want to upgrade your debian to Ubuntu?10:07
Seveasor install Ubuntu on the side?10:07
Octanehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocalNetInstall?highlight=%28netinstall%2910:07
cristihy10:07
masahiroAnybody feeling helpful too total linux noobs?10:07
pocoSeveas, upgrade10:07
Hartibufalo73: this http://radioleipzig.stream.green.ch/radioleipzig.wax10:07
pocoOctane, thanks10:07
New2Linuxwhat linux distibution is the UBUNTU distro functional with [debian/fedoera/redhat, etc.] ?10:07
Seveaspoco, are you running woody or a recent sarge?10:07
microhaxoArg10:07
pocoSeveas, a recent sarge10:07
microhaxoguys help me with this FTP deal10:07
microhaxolol10:07
SeveasNew2Linux, you're not making sense...10:07
microhaxoi cant connect10:08
Di42lo`someone knows how can i play *.mpc files on xmms ?10:08
microhaxoi select ssh2 and enter in info10:08
microhaxoand it times out10:08
Seveaspoco, hmm, upgrading will be difficult then since sarge has a newer glibc10:08
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pocoSeveas, so possible ?10:08
masahiro:(10:08
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Seveasmicrohaxo, have you tried the menu places -> connect to server in gnome?10:08
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microhaxoyea10:08
microhaxoit doesnt have a box for password?10:08
Seveaspoco, maybe even impossible, but at least unsupported10:08
nurdiyanahello all :)10:08
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masahiroIf I can't get the sound to work, I'll just have to stick to windoze10:09
rubberchipmunkhi everyone10:09
Octaneman the wiki has so much information10:09
Seveaspoco, you can try setting your sources.list to ubuntu sources and dist-upgrading and installing the ubuntu-desktop metapackage10:09
rubberchipmunki've got a question about sound in ubuntu hoary10:09
nurdiyanagot a weird dependency pb .. with mplayer-custom ..10:09
New2Linuxyou know for ex. i want to install a program for example flash player, there is no listing for a download for UBUNTU, only for redhat, suse, debian, and other more known linux distos. which one should i download, since there is none for UBUNTU distro?10:09
Seveaspoco, or you can wait a month until Breezy stabilizes and upgrade a bit more smoothly :)10:09
lsuactiafnerhmmm, can linux do dynamic on the fly overclocking?10:09
SeveasNew2Linux, debian10:09
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kiwnixNew2Linux: maybe debian can fit10:09
lsuactiafnerneed to warm my room up10:10
masahirorubberchipmunk, I can't get sound to work either10:10
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Seveasmasahiro/rubberchipmuk, what's the problem?10:10
pocoSeveas, Breezy ? what's that?10:10
bufalo73Harti, it's an ASX10:10
microhaxowhat is the default folder of a ftp to connect to?10:10
nurdiyanawith libavcodec2 that is not going to be installed ( not in my synaptic ,, )10:10
New2Linuxthe ones for suse, redhat, or fedora can't work right?10:10
rubberchipmunki don't think ubuntu detected my sound driver10:10
rubberchipmunki'm not getting any sound output whatsoever10:10
Seveaspoco, Breezy is the development version of Ubuntu10:10
NinwaHow can one determine which processes are using how much resources. I've had my machine on for only a few days now and it seems to be bogging down, having 512 MB of RAM and only a few applications that I opened, open, this seems odd.10:10
Seveasrubberchipmunk, also no gnome sounds?10:10
rubberchipmunkI know for a fact it's not a problem with my card or speakers, those work fine in winblows10:10
Hartibufalo73: and how i can play this?10:10
pocoSeveas, so i could try to install breezy?10:11
masahiroI can't get any sound either10:11
rubberchipmunkyeah, no sounds10:11
Octaneis there a w32codecs package for amd64?10:11
Seveaspoco, see topic :)10:11
bufalo73New2Linux, ubuntu is a debian package distro10:11
Seveasbreezy is unstable10:11
masahiroI think I have the same problem as rubberchipmunk10:11
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bufalo73Harti, try mplayer10:11
Hartihmm.. ok10:11
Seveasrubberchipmunk, do you have 2 soundcards or an onboard soundchip and a real soundcard?10:11
thenukeI think that breezy is kind of testing rather than unstable, at the moment10:11
lsuactiafnerOctane : nope, but you can install a static 32bit binary on your system to play wmv files10:11
New2Linuxok, thank bufalo73... i never knew that, thanks again10:11
Seveassame question for masahiro10:11
Hartibut, the codecs from the mplayer site i have fully installed10:11
masahiroI just have onboard.10:11
rubberchipmunki have one soundcard, i'm unsure if I have an onboard speaker, but I think I do10:11
thenukedebian unstable works ok, but testing for sure not ;)10:11
New2Linuxlet me download the flash...10:11
New2Linuxbrb10:11
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lsuactiafnerNinwa : run top10:12
bufalo73actually, Harti, the real URL is mms://stream.green.ch/RadioLeipzig10:12
Octanelsuactiafner, would you mind explaining that?10:12
lsuactiafnerNinwa : however, linux doesnt bog down.10:12
samihow can i star the file browser in terminal window?10:12
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lambert_rehello10:12
bufalo73this wax file is just a "html" (sort of) with a link to this other URL10:12
Seveasrubberchipmunk, try plugging your speakers in your onboard soundcard and see if you get sound10:12
lsuactiafnerOctane : basically i can send you a 3mb bzip2 binary you can use to play wmv files or you can compile a static binary yourself10:13
rubberchipmunkthey're pluggeed in10:13
rubberchipmunki dual boot with winblows and everything works fine10:13
lsuactiafneri did email the mplayer maintainer and he aint bothered.10:13
masahiroeverything is plugged in here also10:13
masahirosame here10:13
Octanelsuactiafner, would you mind sending that?10:13
masahirojust installed today10:13
Hartibufalo73: thanks10:13
Seveasmasahiro, search google/forums for your chipset and see which driver it needs10:13
rubberchipmunki beleive hoary didn't detect my card or it might be a driver issue10:13
masahiroah ok10:13
masahiroall i know is that it is an asus and im pretty sure it's compatible with ac '9710:14
Seveasrubberchipmunk, if you have both an onboard soundcard and a real soundcard, Ubuntu by default chooses the onboard one10:14
lsuactiafnerOctane : i'll upload somewhere, but i'm on a 5k/s cnnection.. so i will paste you a link and then go check in a few hours10:14
lambert_I have install konqueror and desktop on ubuntu but it's in english.how I can do for to have konqueror in french? (escuse my english)10:14
Seveasthat's why i said try plugging the speakers in the onboard card10:14
Octanelsuactiafner, i dont want you to trouble youself man10:14
rubberchipmunki didn't understand what you meant earlier10:14
Octanelsuactiafner, got at least a link where info on how to compile it?10:14
rubberchipmunki onl have one sound card10:14
Seveaslambert_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales10:14
rubberchipmunksry bout that10:14
samihow can i star the file browser in terminal window?10:14
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Seveaslambert_, and there is #ubuntu-fr too :)10:14
lambert_yes but they no respond10:15
OctaneSeveas,  is on a roll, like always10:15
unrealchristopher lambert? :)10:15
lambert_thanks10:15
lambert_oui?10:15
Seveasrubberchipmunk, then same suggestion for you: google/search the forum for your chipset+linux+driver and see which driver you need10:15
unreallol10:15
lambert_yes?10:15
rubberchipmunkok10:15
lambert_oh no10:15
rubberchipmunkthank you10:15
OctaneSeveas, do i need linux-tree as well?10:15
hondjechristopher lambert...that names familiar10:15
lambert_ahahah10:15
unreallambert: there can be only one.. prepare to die ;)10:15
HappyFoolchristopher lambert is from scotland, darn it10:15
masahiroi'll investagate further, so brb10:15
lambert_it's my real surname (prenom)10:15
unreallol no, christopher lambert is french10:15
hondjelambert_: are you a physicist?10:15
masahiroim pretty sure that its ac97 th10:15
lsuactiafnerOctane : will upload info also10:15
SeveasOctane, iirc not10:15
unrealhe just plays a scottish person in highlander :)10:15
HappyFoolunreal: you mean that movie isn't a true story?10:16
lambert_no I'm not a physicist what for?10:16
Seveasmasahiro, isn't snd_ac97_codec loaded then?10:16
New2Linuxproblem here, Debian Flashplugin-nonfree (contrib unstable)10:16
Seveasmasahiro, try lsmod | grep ac9710:16
hondjelambert_: trying to place the name10:16
unrealback in a while10:16
Seveasif it's not loaded: sudo modprob sound_ac97_codec10:16
Seveasmodprobe*10:16
lambert_I'm the last10:16
nurdiyanawhere to get w32codec thingy ?10:16
masahirodo i google for those?10:16
Seveasnurdiyana, you can get codecs from mplayerhq.hu10:17
lambert_I cut your head ;)10:17
lsuactiafnerOctane : uploadin instructions also10:17
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Octanelsuactiafner, great thanks mate10:17
jbroomevi vi vi vi10:17
HappyFoolRazor-X: what do you need to do?10:17
Seveaslambert_, stop creating noise, this is a help channel10:17
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lambert_yes10:17
nurdiyanaSeveas, no deb line for sources.list ?10:17
lambert_escuse me10:17
Seveasmasahiro, no sound_ac97_codec is already there...10:17
samihow can i star the file browser in terminal window?10:17
Seveasnurdiyana, you can try marillat10:17
jbroomesami: mc?10:17
JRlinuxAre Gnoppix questions OK here?10:17
Seveassami: nautilus10:17
Razor-XHappyFool: the color themes don't look a smidge like the previews they show online10:17
masahirois there a way to enable it?10:17
Razor-XJRlinux: try #gnoppix10:18
lambert_hondje I don't understand "tryinbg to place a name"?10:18
SeveasJRlinux, if they'r not too Gnoppix specific ;)10:18
HappyFoolRazor-X: um, color themes? you mean font-locking / syntax highlighting ?10:18
Razor-XHappyFool: mmmmhmmmm10:18
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JRlinuxRazor... Gnoppix would not let me in !!10:18
Razor-XHappyFool: well, this is Day 2 with emacs10:18
hondjelambert_: the name chistopher lambert10:18
Razor-XJRlinux: try plain #knoppix10:18
HappyFoolRazor-X: M-x font-lock-mode<enter>10:18
SeveasRazor-X, you can get colors by exiting emacs and starting vim :)10:18
Razor-XHappyFool: how would I go about doing syntax highlighting+10:18
microhaxowtf10:19
lambert_but lambert it's my real surname (prenom)10:19
New2Linuxis ubuntu compatible with LINUX x86??10:19
Seveas:set syntax latex10:19
masahiroseveas, is there a way for me to enable the sound card driver?10:19
Razor-XSeveas: i'm combatting my :wq muscle memory10:19
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microhaxoim trying to connect to this FTP via places connect and it says my password is invalid10:19
JRlinuxSeveas I was blown away that Gnoppix would work on my old laptop, but I could not get wireless going.  It did not recognize the command "pump -i ath)"10:19
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masahirosorry if im acting like a noob but i am a noob to linux10:19
microhaxoi have used my password for over 3 years now10:19
Seveasmasahiro, try modprobe sound_ac97_codec10:19
microhaxono way its invalid10:19
JRlinuxath0, that is10:19
Seveasmicrohaxo, typo? :)10:19
hondjemasahiro: we were all newbies once10:19
HappyFoolRazor-X: have you tried M-x font-lock-mode<enter>10:20
microhaxonah10:20
masahiroFATAL: Module sound_ac97_codec not found.10:20
microhaxoi did it 14 times10:20
microhaxolol10:20
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Razor-XHappyFool: will try10:20
microhaxoits my phone number10:20
microhaxohow hard is it to typo that10:20
HappyFoolRazor-X: this site is good for emacs: http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki10:20
JRlinuxWould be tempted to install Ubuntu on the laptop if it did wireless....10:20
jbroomeJRlinux: does it fine10:20
saminautilus command works, thanks Seveas!10:21
SeveasJRlinux, wireless is OK in ubuntu10:21
lambert_goodbye good night ^^10:21
SeveasJRlinux, I use wireless right now :)10:21
Razor-Xand, another question10:21
microhaxoseveas, i have my password encoded, is there a way to decode it? its encoded with flashfxp's security deal10:21
JRlinuxSeveas, how can I get it going on the Gnoppix live Ubuntu version I have up now?10:21
masahiroserveas: I am getting "FATAL: Module sound_ac97_codec not found.10:21
masahiro".10:21
Seveasmicrohaxo, no idea :)10:21
Razor-Xhow can I get Konsole to recognize Right-Alt as M?10:21
microhaxolol10:21
Seveas"gnoppix live ubuntu version"??10:21
HappyFoolRazor-X: this is for emacs ?10:21
Razor-XHappyFool: it'll help, yes10:22
HappyFoolRazor-X: i'd run emacs outside of a konsole -- or are you ssh'ed to another machine10:22
Razor-XLeft and Right Ctrl work as C in emacs, but not Right-Alt10:22
rubberchipmunkalright, I just opened my box.... it's not a sound card, it's an onboard device. It has input jacks for microphone and speakers10:22
JRlinuxGnoppix does seem to be running Ubuntu... maybe it is just a derivation of it.10:22
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Razor-XHappyFool: any reason why? I may as well get aterm/eterm then?10:22
yahalomhow do i find out what my localhost is for imap?10:22
HappyFoolRazor-X: i think i'm not following10:22
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Hartibufalo73: with mplayer it does not go also10:22
HappyFoolRazor-X: are you running emacs inside the konsole ?10:22
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JRlinux(the Bottom screen says ?Welcom to Ubuntu Linux "The Hoary Hedgehog release."10:23
Razor-XHappyFool: is there something in Konsole that hinders emacs?10:23
bufalo73Harti, maybe there's no file to download...10:23
Razor-XHappyFool: because, i'll download aterm/eterm then10:23
HappyFoolRazor-X: no, just the emacs is a .. er. X Window application10:23
Razor-Xi'm using console emacs10:23
HappyFoolRazor-X: you don't need to run it inside a term at all10:23
Razor-XI want it console, I don't want the GUI emacs10:23
HappyFoolRazor-X: why on earth not?10:23
HappyFoolanyway, i'm sure you can tweak konsole to let through alts, but i don't know how. i use gnome10:24
Hartibufalo73: hmm10:24
Razor-XA) Because I love CLI B) because it takes less RAM C) Because I have almost anything important running in several Terminal windows10:24
Razor-XHappyFool: ahhh, ok, i'll ask in Kubuntu ;)10:24
HappyFoolRazor-X: hm. you can run shells inside emacs ;)10:24
theD3viLNo plugin found to handle this resource (mmst://213.250.2.175/24ur.com/2005-06/6047608-2.wmv) <- what is this ?!10:24
HappyFoolRazor-X: quite seriously, emacs works better outside consoles10:24
Hartibufalo73: ok thanks for help.. bye10:24
Razor-XHappyFool: or so I heard ;)10:24
Razor-XHappyFool: you sure?10:25
HappyFoolRazor-X: well, imo10:25
Razor-Xthe thing is, I don't want an X window floating in space10:25
Razor-XI generally have only 2 X windows, Konsole, and Opera10:25
Razor-Xand, occasionally, VLC if i'm watching something10:25
Razor-XX is just there to look pretty, nothing more ;)10:25
bufalo73HappyFool, and inside twin?10:26
HappyFoolbufalo73: err, don't know twin10:26
HappyFoolRazor-X: i guess my expectations are different10:26
bufalo73twin -> ncurses windows10:26
HappyFoolRazor-X: anyway, ask in kubuntu about the M- thing10:27
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_kevinwhen is the new gaim 1.3.1 update for ubuntu comming10:27
lsuactiafnertheD3viL : 64bit system?10:28
_kevin1.3.0 has security issues so i cannot use it10:28
HappyFoolbufalo73: i've used X in console only mode (i.e., no x) -- that was ok. i guess twin would be similar (?)10:28
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Razor-Xmmmm, i'm looking at twin10:28
Razor-Xis it better than screen?10:28
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lsuactiafneranyway theD3viL install the firefox mplayer plugin if on a 32bit system10:28
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masahiro.10:29
Dalkushttp://www.gnome.org/~jdub/images/3ubuntu.jpg <-- lol10:29
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masahiroIs the toe next to your big toe bigger than your big toe?10:29
fetmanit's longer10:30
fetmanor hmm10:30
fetmanit's positioned futher ahead then your big toe I think10:30
mjrhmm, totem-gstreamer seems to play video decently for a change. Wonder if that's luck.10:31
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Razor-Xmjr: 's why I use VLC10:31
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microhaxois there a particular reason why it takes over 5 min to open a file on my NTFS drive?10:33
mjrRazor-X, I've used totem-xine (and xine for dvb), but might give the Way of the Future a shot again ;)10:33
lsuactiafnermicrohaxo : what kind of file with what edittor?10:33
microhaxono file10:34
microhaxobrowsing10:34
microhaxofolders10:34
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lsuactiafnercant imagine why..10:34
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BROKEN_LADDERDOES ANyone understand the concept of key blinding?10:35
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lsuactiafnerBROKEN_LADDER : YES!10:36
jbroomethat's when the keys poke you in the eye, isn't it?10:36
HappyFooljbroome: take the keyboard out of your own eye before seeking the key in your brother's!10:37
ompaulBROKEN_LADDER,  http://www.comodogroup.com/research/crypto/CDW_RSA2003.ppt <<-- is a thing that proports to10:37
lsuactiafnerno its when you tie the keys up with your mouse's cable..10:37
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microhaxoIs there protection on the system32 folder of windows10:38
microhaxozu10:38
microhaxocuz10:38
microhaxoi have waited 5 min and it still wont open the folder10:38
lsuactiafnermicrohaxo : prolly10:38
HappyFoolmicrohaxo: didn't you say some files had gone missing from your ntfs partition?10:38
microhaxoyea10:38
microhaxoim REPLACING ME10:38
microhaxothem10:38
microhaxolol10:38
HappyFoolmicrohaxo: maybe that hard-drive, or partition, are screwed10:38
microhaxonoo10:38
microhaxoits new10:38
microhaxo200 giger10:38
microhaxowhat is pissing me off is: its taking over 10 min to open a DAMN folder10:39
microhaxo...10:39
lsuactiafner200G is huge enough to make error rate % high10:39
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HappyFoolnewness does not preclude brokenness10:39
HappyFoolit sounds like something is broken to me *shrug*10:39
lsuactiafnercan you ls in the folder?10:39
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naliothmicrohaxo: this should tell you why NTFS mixed with linux is not a good idea10:39
microhaxoi have no idea how to do that10:39
microhaxolol10:39
microhaxoTHis is on a SEPERATE damn hard drive10:39
microhaxolinux = 60 gig wdigital10:40
microhaxoWindows = 200 gig maxtor10:40
Octaneanyone know what do i have to enable in my kernel's config to make sure DMA works (VIA motherboard)10:40
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microhaxoah shit10:41
matjan_so much for universe repository.... if i can't get on the internet under linux, that won't work... :-S10:41
microhaxoi cant WRITE DATA TO NTFS CANT I!10:41
ThE__OnEhow can i put the windows that appear on the botton, together tith the taskbar10:41
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_kevinwhen I'm recording with streamripper, it by default sets the songs genre to Blues, if there a way for it to detect it, or not use anything10:41
HappyFoolmicrohaxo: if the drive is broken, there is nothing linux or windows can do about it10:41
naliothmicrohaxo: if you don't like or want your NTFS partition, write to it all you like (once or twice)10:41
ompaulmicrohaxo, please please please me, turn off caps lock#10:41
microhaxolol10:42
microhaxoahh10:42
microhaxoi looked at the permitons of sys3210:42
microhaxoand my damn haard drive is fine10:42
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microhaxopermissions show no writing10:42
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ThE__OnEanyone?10:42
lukus001Can somone help me get my Tv card running and opperational please10:42
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Teddansondoes ubuntu allow me to choose between wireless networks in range via gui?10:43
New2Linuxhow do i access my owners account on UBUNTU, anyone please...10:43
microhaxoHow do i make permission to write to my system32 foldeR?10:44
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HappyFoolNew2Linux: what do you mean by 'owners account' ?10:44
senshi, i was just wondering, I've got a .avi but when i play it in totem i only get sound, no video, i'm guessing it's a codec problem but i'm not sure how i'd go about fixing it10:45
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HappyFoolsens: you've installed w32codecs ?10:45
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naliothsens: go to www.mplayerhq.hu and download the codecs10:45
microhaxoguys, how can i set up permissions to write to ntfs?10:45
sensHappyFool, I wouldn't know, i think so10:45
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kbrooksuh10:46
lukus001can somone help me install mythTv or what ever will get my hauppage Tv card to work ? =)10:46
kbrooksquestion10:46
naliothmicrohaxo: writing to NTFS may destroy all your NTFS data10:46
microhaxoill take that risk10:46
microhaxolol10:46
microhaxoi have one DLL  i need to replace10:46
lsuactiafnermicrohaxo : but i have friends who has written to NTFS for years and no errors, but its true, bad things DO happen10:46
New2Linuxyou know when you install ubuntu, u create a 2 usernames, a owners and a default username or something, and when you log on you use the username... but you cant install programs or copy files to other folders, the owners account is like the adminstator in windows....10:46
New2LinuxHappyFool,10:46
microhaxoi dont care i need to write ONE DLL10:47
unrealergh, ubuntu installed fine, it just can't detect my screen, i'm sat in a terminal with a HUGE font, lol10:47
sensmicrohaxo: you still here! You osted in neowin but what are you doing to fix the problem?10:47
naliothmicrohaxo: one DLL may cost your your windows10:47
kbrookswhy doesn't X start on bootup? i tried sttarting, but gpm10:47
microhaxoI dont care10:47
microhaxoi dont have a windows cd10:47
ThE__OnEhow can i put the windows that appear on the botton, together tith the taskbar10:47
kbrookserrors out10:47
microhaxothis is the dll i need to replace10:47
microhaxokbrooks check xorg.conf10:47
ThE__OnEhow can i put the windows that appear on the top, together tith the taskbar10:48
HappyFoolNew2Linux: that doesn't sound like ubuntu to me10:48
bufalo73microhaxo, if you have to write a dll to a ntfs partition why don't you use a 2k/xp boot cd?10:48
kbrooksno10:48
microhaxoi dont have one dammit10:48
microhaxoso10:48
_kevinThe__One: Drag and Drop10:48
kbrooksbufalo73, HE DOESNT HAVE ONE10:48
sensnalioth: I've gone there and downloaded the 'essenital codecs' but how do i install a .tar.bz2?10:48
microhaxosomeone tell me how the hell can i write to my ntfs disk10:48
microhaxoi need to replace one DLL10:48
naliothsens: there are instructions on teh download page at mplayer on whre to put the files10:49
kbrooksmicrohaxo, let me get this straight10:49
unreallol, this is weird, ubuntu is acting a lot nicer than other distros have with this hardware10:49
sensnalioth: ok thanks10:49
kbrooksyou hate windows?10:49
microhaxono10:49
microhaxoi love windows10:49
microhaxolol10:49
naliothsens: a tar.bz2 is unzipped as such "tar xvjf file.tar.bz2"10:49
kbrooksmicrohaxo, u j/k?10:49
microhaxonop10:49
microhaxolove it10:49
microhaxoi also like linux10:49
microhaxobut windows has my beloved games10:49
HappyFoolNew2Linux: have you forgotten a password?10:49
naliothkbrooks: i greatly ABHOR windowz10:49
HappyFooldoes the ubuntu kernel ntfs module come with write support enabled?10:49
microhaxoso10:49
sensnalioth: ok thanks, but i don't have mplayer, i'm using totem10:50
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lukus001can somone help me with mythTV, the manual say about installing some sort of program BUT the downloads are for redhat and another OS... so how can i do it?10:50
New2Linuxno10:50
HappyFoolmicrohaxo: this place seems to have windows boot disks: http://bootdisk.com/10:50
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kbrooksmicrohaxo: then why do you want to replace one .dll and risk losing your data in the process?10:50
naliothsens: doesnt matter, the codecs are used by your whole system10:50
sensnalioth: ok, cheers10:50
HappyFoolNew2Linux: you have created two ubuntu users, as i understand?10:50
microhaxoi dont care dammit10:51
microhaxoi dont have a floppy drive10:51
microhaxolol10:51
LinuxJoneslukewarm, mythtv is in the multiverse repository10:51
kbrooksmicrohaxo, so...i think ure doomed10:51
kbrooksto hell10:51
unreal...10:51
Blissexmicrohaxo: you can boot floppy images off a CD. There are ready made CD images for that.10:51
naliothkbrooks: may i add my .02? <EG>10:51
unrealit looks like /usr/bin/links just disappeared10:51
New2Linuxy10:51
PlutoPrimeanyone found a patch for the ATI drivers that allows them to compile for 2.6.12 kernel?10:51
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ThE__OnEhow can i put the windows that appear on the top, together tith the taskbar10:51
ThE__OnEtogether*10:52
ThE__OnElike windows10:52
kbrooksnalioth, go on. and its10:52
HappyFoolNew2Linux: ok, and you want to login as a different user ?10:52
kbrooks0.0210:52
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kbrooksThE__OnE,10:52
ThE__OnEya?10:53
kbrooksright clik on the top. select add to panel10:53
naliothkbrooks: its not $.02?10:53
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HappyFoolThE__OnE: you could try dragging it to the bottom10:53
HappyFoolThE__OnE: click on the top bar, and drag it to the bottom (the mouse icon should turn into a gripping fist)10:53
naliothkbrooks: or 2/100 of a $1?10:53
lukus001linuxjones: yeah i tried it via that way, but it was telling me i had to so something to finish it off in shell, but it's all cryptic to me10:53
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kbrooksnalioth, all arer correct3, but........ ;)10:54
ThE__OnEi did10:54
naliothkbrooks: windows is satan10:54
ThE__OnEit gets on the bottom10:54
ThE__OnEbut there are 2 seperate bars10:54
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fetmancan anybody help me with my sound?10:54
ThE__OnEhow cann combine them10:54
squinnfetman, what do u need help with sound-wise?10:54
HappyFoolnalioth: what, you think anti-windows trolling in a linux channel should produce a reaction? ;)10:55
kbrookstrying to chroot10:55
LinuxJoneslukus001, sorry I got your name wrong, do you remember what it said exactly ?10:55
kbrooksbut10:55
fetmansquinn: well, there is no sound!10:55
naliothHappyFool: some windowz (l)users are proud of themselves10:55
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unrealis there a default root password?10:55
ThE__OnEanyone?10:55
unrealheh10:55
ThE__OnEanyone?10:55
kbrooksroot@ubuntu:/mnt # chroot hda1 /bin/bash10:55
kbrookschroot: /bin/bash: No such file or directory10:55
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HappyFoolunreal: root is disabled by default10:55
HappyFoolunreal: use 'sudo'10:56
gorduxxoehlo10:56
squinnkbrooks, chroot %B/dev/hda1%B10:56
squinner10:56
fetmansquinn: I'm sure my soundcard works (I've tired it in windows), I'm sure the chanels aren't mute:ed, I'm sure my amplifier works10:56
microhaxowhat the hell10:56
squinnWhat sound card?10:56
gorduxxoi have a problem...10:56
microhaxotose boot disks are damn EXE FILES!10:56
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fetmansquinn: sb live10:56
unrealHappyFool: that's a bit hard without the password10:56
fetmansquinn: 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a)10:56
Blissexmicrohaxo: thye are ZIP files too.10:56
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ThE__OnEis there any way to combine the top bar with the bottom, not just put it on the bottom, but combine with it.10:56
lsuactiafnersens : tar -jxf file.tar.bz2 it will extract to all-something10:56
Blissexmicrohaxo: also look at UltimateBootCD.com10:56
squinnyay maybe10:57
HappyFoolkbrooks: i think the directory you chroot to has to have a minimal environment in it10:57
HappyFoolunreal: for sudo, use your users password10:57
squinnironically, fetman i use an SB Live! as well10:57
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kbrooksunreal, the same passwd as your first user10:57
LokeDKWhat package should I use to install the php-mysql extension for Apache 1.3?10:57
lsuactiafnerthen mv all-something/* /usr/local/lib/codecs/10:57
lsuactiafneryou might need to mkdir /usr/local/lib/codecs10:57
lukus001LinuxJones: nope sorry, but i'm doing it via their website and i need to downlaod XMLTV but there isnt a version fo debian /ubuntu, just red hat and a couple of other linux distros10:57
unrealhmm, never knew that, heh10:57
rubberchipmunkim still having some trouble configuring sound10:57
kbrookswtf?10:57
squinnand i just happened to come upon a forum post noting that some Audigys and SB Lives [same Linux drivers]  are not working in Hoary10:57
lsuactiafnersens : err i would get all- not just essential10:57
fetmansquinn: kk.. it worked yesterday! and all of a sudden it just went quiet10:57
squinnand I found a fix, fetman10:57
unrealty :)10:57
naliothmicrohaxo: unzip them with unrar10:57
ThE__OnEis there any way to combine the top bar with the bottom, not just put it on the bottom, but combine with it.10:57
lsuactiafnerwhy am i lagged this much10:58
rubberchipmunkI have an onboard sound device (Crystal CS4236) and I can't find a Linux driver for it10:58
kbrookssolved it10:58
PlutoPrimeyea10:58
New2Linuxsorry HappyFool, i was in a little prayer session, but yes i want to login as an adminstrator or root account10:58
LinuxJoneslukus001, xmltv is available in the repos as well10:58
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Blissexrubberchipmunk: thanks for letting us know...10:58
HappyFoolNew2Linux: root is disabled. use sudo10:58
HappyFoolNew2Linux: use your users password10:58
PlutoPrimeThE__OnE, http://elysium.dnsalias.net/web/desktop.jpg10:59
kbrooksHappyFool, it isnt ALL disabled, y'know10:59
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Octaneis there a way to get a list of all the modules you can load?10:59
HappyFoolThE__OnE: try adding a 'Window Selector' applet to the bar without it, resize it as you like, then remove the other bar10:59
lukus001LinuxJones: reposositories?.. apt-get install XMLTV?11:00
New2Linuxsudo??11:00
LinuxJoneslukus001, yes11:00
kbrookssuperuser do11:00
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LinuxJoneslukus001, do you have multiverse repositories enabled ?11:00
New2LinuxHappyFool, where is sudo??11:00
kbrooksNew2Linux, whereis sudo11:00
virtualdwhy doesn't the 2.6.11 kernel get security updates?11:00
microhaxoguys11:00
microhaxohow do i burn an iso in linux?11:01
kbrooksmicrohaxo, ummm. k3b11:01
neofaxHello everyone!11:01
New2Linuxyes kbrooks, where or what is sudo...11:01
LinuxJoneslukus001, xmltv is in universe so you need both repositories added11:01
microhaxoIM runnin gnome11:01
PlutoPrimemicrohaxo, apt-get install gnome-baker11:01
neofaxAnyone know how to change a dhcp given ip address?11:01
lukus001LinuxJones: yeah, i should ahve.. ill find out in 2 secs though =)11:01
PlutoPrimemicrohaxo, or go to synaptic,search for package gnome-baker11:01
LinuxJoneslukus001, I can post mine to pastebin.ca for you if you want ?11:01
kbrooksok11:01
microhaxoE: Couldn't find package gnome-baker11:01
kbrooksnow to reboot11:01
kbrooksand see teh glory11:02
kbrooksof flubox11:02
virtualddoesn't packages in universe get security updates?11:02
kbrooksand twm11:02
kbrooksand.......11:02
kbrooksvirtuald, no11:02
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virtualdmkay11:02
lukus001that whould be good... couldnt do apt get xmltv11:02
virtualdB] 11:02
kbrooksvirtuald, universe is community driven11:02
djsmicrohaxo: gnomebaker (no hyphen)11:02
LinuxJonesmicrohaxo, it's not avaialble via apt in the ubuntu repositories you can find it using google11:02
virtualdB] 11:02
rubberchipmunkquit11:02
kbrooksLinuxJones, u sure its not in universe11:03
lukus001LinuxJones: got it installing now thanks =)11:03
LinuxJoneskbrooks, they must have added it recently cause it's there now :)11:03
microhaxooh11:04
LinuxJoneslukus001, ok good luck11:04
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virtualdi just noticed my 2.6.11 kernel is from universe B]  it's from february11:04
unrealhmm11:04
unrealany ideas why ubuntu recognises a wireless USB keyboard and not the mouse?11:05
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bufalo73mmm... it thinks it's an elephant? :D11:05
unrealheh11:06
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kong0where do you type in cvs commands?11:06
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kong0where do you type in cvs commands?11:06
HappyFoolin a terminal11:07
djskong0: at the command prompt11:07
lsuactiafnerwow am lagged11:07
lsuactiafnergonna get a 5 minute ping any second11:07
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microhaxoaight11:09
microhaxoim gonna try to fix windows11:09
microhaxobrb11:09
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kong0hmm im trying to type in the cvs command to dl mplayer but it doesnt work11:09
Bauhn^DHHi, i need help with removing GRUB so windows boots by default11:10
naliothmicrohaxo has a HUGE job ahead of hom11:10
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PlutoPrimeBauhn^DH, you can't remove Grub if u need to boot to linux11:11
PlutoPrimeBauhn^DH, you simply need to change windows to the default OS in grub11:11
lsuactiafner CTCP PING reply from lsuactiafner: 793.311 seconds11:11
anto9usnalioth: yeah, microsoft have been struggling with that one for years11:11
lsuactiafnerwow!!11:11
lsuactiafneri'm still here11:11
lsuactiafnerhaha11:11
lsuactiafnerhuge spike11:11
kong0man im really getting angry on linux here11:12
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ivokskong0: linux?11:12
kong0yes11:12
Bauhn^DHPlutoPrime it does'nt matter if i cant use linux. i have 2 harddrives and i'm going to remove the one with linux (and grub) and replace it with a bigger. but when i boot up i get an error that grub doesn't exist. so i need to remove it11:12
ivokskong0: define linux11:12
kong0my ubuntu11:12
ivokskong0: it's like saying in Windows "I'm mad on kernel32.dll"11:12
ivoksbecause your nero isn't working11:12
ivoks:)11:12
kong0and all the irritating commands just to install a god damn codec11:12
ivoks?11:13
ivokskong0: who told you to use cvs to install codecs?11:13
ivokskong0: do you know what cvs is?11:13
kong0well at least u dont have to type in 3 pages of commands just to see how much ram u use11:13
djsBauhn^DH: You can change the "default" line /boot/grub/menu.lst so that windows boots by default11:13
kong0i have no bloody ideah and its braking me down11:13
naliothdjs: when Bauhn^DH removes his HD, grub won't be there any more11:14
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ivokskong0: CVS is system for developers11:14
microhaxoeh11:14
microhaxodamn cd wont boot11:14
ompaulkong0, get a cup of tea a breath of fresh air and come back to it in a few minutes11:14
ivokskong0: CVS is not utility to install codecs11:14
kong0im supposed to install mplayer via cvs...11:14
djsnalioth:  Oops.  Missed that post. :)11:14
ivokskong0: why?11:14
Bauhn^DHnalioth i've got a windows cd now, but i get an error when i boot from it, so i'm looking from an other11:14
kong0dunno how did u do?11:14
ivokskong0: apt-get install mplayer isn't good enough for you?11:14
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Bauhn^DHnalioth, i tried in safe-mode with "fixmbr" but the command didn't exist?11:15
kong0ehmm?11:15
kong0where do i put in that?11:16
HappyFoolBauhn^DH: did you try 'fdisk /mbr' ?11:16
kong0type in i mean..11:16
ivokskong0: in console11:16
kong0wjat concole?11:16
microhaxothats it11:16
ivokskong0: too many years in windows, right?11:16
Bauhn^DHHappyFool, could it work when i've booted up windows normally?11:16
kong0all to many im afraid11:16
microhaxosomeone tell me the command to allow WRITING OF my ntfs partition11:16
HappyFoolBauhn^DH: hmm, that's an idea actually11:16
ivokskong0: applications/system tools/terminal11:16
ivokskong0: sudo apt-get install mplayer11:16
HappyFoolBauhn^DH: let me see if fdisk is on my xp partition...11:17
kong0i just installed this ubuntu, and having it on my language seems to be more of a disadvatage than advatage...11:17
Bauhn^DHHappyFool i've booted windows reguarly now, but none of the commands exist11:17
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ivoksmicrohaxo: you will have to contact microsoft for that, only they know how to write to NFS11:17
kong0got it11:17
ivoksmicrohaxo: you will have to contact microsoft for that, only they know how to write to NTFS11:17
microhaxohahaha11:17
microhaxoyea right11:17
microhaxono11:17
microhaxogive permission11:17
microhaxoubuntu can do it11:17
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ivokswrite on NTFS?11:17
microhaxoyea11:17
virtualdmicrohaxo: google for captive ntfs11:18
ivoksman, you really want to loose your data11:18
microhaxoif you can read you can write, right ;)11:18
microhaxoI dont CARE dammit11:18
microhaxoi need to copy over one small ass DLL11:18
ivoksmicrohaxo: you can't write11:18
HappyFoolBauhn^DH: yeah, i can't find fdisk.exe or fixmbr.exe on my windows partition11:18
nirhi11:18
sundexHi, all -- what do you use to read .mht (or .mhtml) files?11:18
ivoksmicrohaxo: you can only read11:18
ivoksmicrohaxo: like UFS, it's readonly11:18
microhaxothen how can i loose my data if i cant write11:18
HappyFooli wonder if i have that oem cd somewhere11:18
ivoksmicrohaxo: there is experimental write support11:18
kong0weell good news that didnt work...11:18
nircan i use debian pkgs , cuz i cant find anything i need in ubuntu pkglist.. :(11:18
Bauhn^DHHappyFool would it work if you uploaded them somewhere and i run them on my computer?11:18
anto9usmicrohaxo: exactly11:19
ivoksmicrohaxo: you can only write over files, preserving their size11:19
microhaxoyea11:19
microhaxo?11:19
virtualdmicrohaxo: do as i said, google for captive ntfs.11:19
microhaxok11:19
ivokskong0: ok, lets move to next part then...11:19
ivokskong0: type in sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:19
ivokskong0: it should open a window with lot's of stuff in it11:20
HappyFoolBauhn^DH: i'm not helluva sure where my windows cd is. i don't think i've even unwrapped it11:20
Bauhn^DHHappyFool but isnt fdisk & fixmbr in ubuntu?11:20
ivokskong0: did it?11:20
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microhaxook11:20
kong0ivoks...the first part didnt work11:20
HappyFoolBauhn^DH: no. they are windows commands11:20
microhaxoi have a RPM11:20
microhaxohow do i install it11:20
microhaxolol11:20
HappyFoolBauhn^DH: there is a linux fdisk, but it's different11:20
kong0unable to lock the administration directory11:20
HappyFoolBauhn^DH: it doesn't know about windows boot records11:21
microhaxosudo alien -d name.rpm?11:21
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ivokskong0: do you have synaptic open?11:21
Bauhn^DHHappyFool ok, i'll google a bit after the files11:21
ivokskong0:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:21
ThE__OnEhow do i upgrade firefox, my version still shows to be 1.0.211:21
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lsuactiafnerThE__OnE : about:config change the version to 1.0.411:21
kong0i have xmms11:22
kong0open11:22
ThE__OnEi have to update it11:22
ivokskong0:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:22
ivokskong0:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:22
ThE__OnEi cant download stuff11:22
lsuactiafnersupposebly the 1.0.2 ubuntu version has been patched to be as safe and functional as 1.0.411:22
kong0ive done that11:22
Xenguymicrohaxo: you have an RPM for what application?11:22
naliothlsuactiafner: ThE__OnE fine the line with "vendorsub" in it, and change taht value to 1.0.411:22
ThE__OnEit gives me errors11:22
kong0but not the first part11:22
ivokskong0: forget about first part11:22
ThE__OnEit gives me errors11:22
ThE__OnEwhen i try to download11:22
naliothThE__OnE: put about:config into your address bar11:22
ivokskong0: did it open a window with text?11:22
ThE__OnEi need to uprade11:22
kong0yeah11:22
ivoksThE__OnE: you don't need to upgrade11:23
naliothThE__OnE: search for "vendorsub" and on taht line, change the value to 1.0.411:23
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ivokskong0: does it have any line that doesn't begin with #?11:23
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microhaxocaptive NTFS11:23
kong0a couple i think11:23
ivokskong0: any starting with 'deb http://'?11:24
kong0yes11:24
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lsuactiafnerThE__OnE : if you truly indeed need 1.0.4 dont try to install the mozilla binary, ubuntu doesnt like it.. instead. run it in a chroot with a new glibc version11:24
ivokskong0: and ending with main?11:24
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kong0no11:24
kong0i have min restricted11:24
kong0main11:24
mebaran151could some one help me find the syntax error in this script11:25
Xenguymicrohaxo: apparently that application is no longer being actively developed (just 'FYI)11:25
ivokskong0: after restricted add 'universe multiverse'11:25
kong0on console right?11:25
Xenguymicrohaxo: another option might be to convert NTFS to FAT3211:25
ivokskong0: no, in that file11:25
kong0ok11:25
Bauhn^DHHappyFool where on the windows-cd should the files be located?11:25
ivokskong0: in that line that ends with main restricted11:25
HappyFoolBauhn^DH: eek11:25
HappyFoolBauhn^DH: um, dunno11:26
Xenguymicrohaxo: (depending on your situation)11:26
Bauhn^DHHappyFool ok, w8 a minuter11:26
Bauhn^DH-r11:26
ThE__OnEso your saying i should just keep the .2 version of firefox?11:26
kong0lol i have 4 that ends with main restricted11:26
naliothBauhn^DH: have you found a windows cd?11:26
ivokskong0: so, it should look something like this: deb http://hr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe main restricted multiverse11:26
naliothThE__OnE: read what i have sent you11:26
Bauhn^DHnalioth yes, but i cant boot from it.. so i thought maybe i could find the files manually11:26
naliothThE__OnE: your version of ff is updated, just not numbered coreectly11:27
ivokskong0: instead of hr you have something else11:27
ThE__OnEyou send me something?11:27
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kong0min goes like this: deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted universe multiverse11:27
ivokskong0: order of main/restricted/universe/multiverse is irrelevant11:27
naliothThE__OnE: read the text above and look for your nick11:27
naliothThE__OnE: from me11:27
ivokskong0: that's for hoary-updates11:27
naliothBauhn^DH: most of that stuff is 'compressed' in evil M$ format11:27
ivokskong0: there should be on just like that, just instead of hoary-updates, there should be only hoary11:27
kong0ok found archive11:27
kong0?11:28
Bauhn^DHnalioth i think all the .exe-files are uncrypted or whatsoever11:28
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ThE__OnEi dont need to change it, i just want to make sure the version is upto date, and if .2 is gmore stable than .4, then i will pick that11:28
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ivokskong0: do you see horay-updates in your line?11:28
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naliothBauhn^DH: if its a exe, it may be a .com or something else11:28
kong0yeah11:29
naliothThE__OnE: firefox 1.0.2 from ubuntu is the SAME as 1.0.4 from mozilla.org11:29
Bauhn^DHnalioth when explorer.exe decides to begin cooperate i'll search for it11:29
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kong0should i erase updates?11:29
ivokskong0: you should have one line same as that one, just instead of hoary-updates, there should be hoary11:29
naliothThE__OnE: just the version number on ubuntus version was not changed (for reasons only the devs know)11:29
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ivokskong0: no11:29
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ivokskong0: you should have them both11:29
TomT64well I hope they change it for 1.0.511:29
artaxhi all11:29
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ThE__OnEok11:29
ThE__OnEthx11:29
ThE__OnE1 more ques11:30
kong0i only have updates11:30
ThE__OnEmy printer does'nt turn on11:30
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kong02 of em11:30
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kong0should i make a complete new?11:30
naliothThE__OnE: there is a switch in the back or perhaps a cord coming from the back11:30
ThE__OnEand i just turned them on like 2 hours ago when i was using windows11:30
ivokskong0: ok, erase everything in that file11:30
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ivokskong0: and add lines i tell you, ok?11:30
TomT64ThE__OnE: what do you mean by not turned on11:30
kong0the whole file?11:30
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ThE__OnEnorm_, everything is plugged in correctly11:30
ivokskong0: yes, everything in that file11:30
kong0ok done11:31
ThE__OnEi cant power it on11:31
ivokskong0: now, first line:11:31
ThE__OnEnormally*11:31
TomT64ThE__OnE: sounds like you need it fixed or you need to return it11:31
ivokskong0: deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe main restricted multiverse11:31
ThE__OnEnonono11:31
ThE__OnEi just used it iin windows11:31
ThE__OnEi can use it again if i was using windows11:31
kong0ok11:31
TomT64then you mean you just can't activate it from linux11:31
ThE__OnEyes11:31
ivokskong0: second: deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-updates universe main restricted multiverse11:32
ThE__OnEhow can i activate it?11:32
rauxwhere I can find some good script for xchat ... there must be ircop stuff11:32
ivokskong0: third: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted universe11:32
sinopewhere are the scripts for the various logins kept?11:32
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sinopeyou know.... gnome, kde, failsafe, etc11:32
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microhaxoWtf this install is stuck at : initializing captive11:32
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ivokskong0: and: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted11:32
naliothsinope: /usr/share/xsessions i believe11:32
ThE__OnEanynoe?11:33
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ivokskong0: that's it... did you?11:33
naliothmicrohaxo: using RPMs is always exciting11:33
Guntuany one knows what Kernel Mode Linux is ?11:33
sinopenalioth: thanks11:33
kong04 lines?11:33
Bauhn^DHnalioth i'll brb11:33
microhaxothis is the TGZ deal11:33
ivokskong0: yes11:33
microhaxoi dloaded the packed one11:33
kong0and no #?11:33
ivokskong0: all starting with deb, right?11:33
microhaxounpacked and ran the install.sh11:33
ivokskong0: no #11:33
naliothmicrohaxo: i have no idea11:33
microhaxoits stuck there11:33
Xenguymicrohaxo: tar'd and gzip'd11:33
kong0ok guess its done11:33
kong0yes11:34
ivokskong0: ok, close it11:34
microhaxoExtracting Captive... done.11:34
microhaxoInitializing Captive...11:34
microhaxothats all i see11:34
ivokskong0: and, of course, save it11:34
microhaxolol11:34
kong0NO?!11:34
kong0haha kidding11:34
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ivokskong0: now run sudo apt-get update11:34
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Fish-FaceHas anyone here started having problems with amsn crashing?11:34
Fish-Facei.e. segfaulting11:34
kong0kick ass11:34
squinnFish-Face, I've heard problems with GAIM and MSN lately too.11:35
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kong0deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted11:35
ivokskong0: i'll wait with you for possible errorrs11:35
Fish-Facesquinn, no problems with gaim, here; just amsn11:35
kong0Unable to lock the administration directory11:35
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ivokskong0: you have synaptic running somewhere11:35
kong0no11:35
ivokskong0: did you put sudo?11:35
kong0i have xmms running11:35
ivokskong0: sudo apt-get update11:35
rauxok I'll repeat my question again:  where I can find some good script for xchat ... there must be ircop stuff ? :)11:35
kong0and i cant shut it down11:35
naliothkong0: there is anothre apt running, or you are not root11:35
kong0haha root?11:36
naliothraux: check the xchat home page for scripts, theres hundreds11:36
ivokskong0: did you run 'sudo apt-get update'?11:36
Fish-FaceBasically, aMSN segfaults on login - sometimes it's possible to get past login, but often a crash will randomly(?) occur, or if you're sent a custom emoticon11:36
kong0Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?11:36
ivokskong0: run this:11:37
kong0god damn thats strange11:37
ivokskong0: ps ax | grep apt11:37
kong0in root terminal? or just terminal?11:37
ivokskong0: there shouldn't be any line accept, maybe, grep apt11:37
ivokskong0: it's not important11:37
ivokskong0: any term11:37
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kong0ok then?11:38
rauxnalioth, I can't find right script11:38
ivokskong0: is there any line?11:38
ivokskong0: as output11:38
kong03 lines11:38
kong0including grep11:38
ivokskong0: lol, that means you are runin apt-get somewhere11:38
naliothraux: what exactly are you wanting to do?11:38
kong0wth...11:38
kong0i shouldnt be11:38
ivokskong0: those other two lines, what are they called?11:38
ivokskong0: synaptic maybe?11:39
kong04234 ?        S      0:00 gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic11:39
kong0 4235 ?        S      0:03 /usr/sbin/synaptic11:39
ivokskong0: you see you are running synaptic11:39
rauxnalioth,  I need an ircop menu ... akill, gline, sajoin, samode etc. this kind of stuff11:39
microhaxowtf11:39
microhaxomy CDROM wont EJECT11:39
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kong0yeah 211:39
microhaxothe damn cd i just put in there11:39
kong0nono only in console11:39
ivokskong0: that's graphical package tool11:39
kong0only in the terminal do i see them11:39
ivokskong0: are you sure there is no sypatic on desktop?11:39
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ivokssynaptic, even :)11:40
kong0what would they look like? the normal synaptic window?11:40
ivokskong0: big window with packages listed in it :)11:40
kong0no11:41
trog_lol11:41
ivokskong0: the thing you started from System -> Administration -> Synaptic package manager11:41
kong0ive had em up b4 tday but theyre nor running now..11:41
kong0what if i restart my computer?11:41
ivokskong0: :)) no11:41
ivokskong0: let's learn new command; killall :)11:41
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kong0really?11:41
microhaxohow EXACTLY DO I BURN AN ISO11:41
ivokskong0: type in sudo killall -9 synaptic11:41
ivoksmicrohaxo: right click on iso, burn to CD :)11:42
Seveasmicrohaxo, don't shout please11:42
Seveasand use graveman/gnomebaker/k3b11:42
naliothraux: i'm not the one to ask about that kind of stuff, as i don't have any need for it11:42
kong0ok..nothing seems to have happened..11:42
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ivokskong0: it did ;)11:42
ivokskong0: try now ps ax | grep apt11:42
ivokskong0: ther should be only one line, with grep apt11:42
naliothmicrohaxo: do you like your capslock?11:42
microhaxothat dont work11:42
Seveasand ejecting is done with rightclicking on the cdrom icon in nautilus and clicking eject11:42
microhaxoi right click11:42
microhaxoburn file11:42
microhaxonot iso11:42
kong0only grept apt :D11:42
rauxdamn :D ... but nalioth  maybe you know somebody, who need this kind of stuff11:43
kong0happy happy11:43
ivokskong0: now run this 'sudo apt-get update'11:43
microhaxodammit11:43
microhaxoim getting pissed off11:43
Jesse1where can i get the sdl  libraries from?11:43
microhaxomy cdrom drive is locked11:43
microhaxobecause of this bs k3b11:43
microhaxoit wont unlock it11:43
microhaxowtf11:43
kong0finished11:43
SeveasJesse1, from the ubuntu repositories :)11:43
ivokskong0: no errors?11:43
ivokskong0: allready?11:43
kong0no11:43
Seveasmicrohaxo, close k3b then...11:43
naliothraux: most of the users in here who need it, use irssi and have all that stuff personally aliased11:43
kong0not the usual stuff bout the in use11:43
ivokskong0: what kind of internet connection do you have? :)11:43
kong010/111:44
Jesse1sevas, i searched in the the synaptic for sdl and it didnt find anything11:44
microhaxoit was never open and it locked it11:44
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ivoksok :)11:44
ivokskong0: sudo apt-get install mplayer11:44
ivokskong0: sudo apt-get install mplayer-68611:44
SeveasJesse1, look for libsdl11:44
microhaxodammit11:44
ivoksor was it -586? :)11:44
Octane38611:44
Octane:)11:44
ivoks:)11:44
Octaneits 38611:44
ivoks386 is without MMX/SSE support11:44
kong0"Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)"11:44
kong0i enhet "/cdrom/" och tryck Enter11:44
ivokskong0: well, enter your CD11:45
kong0the ubuntu?11:45
ivokskong0: that tells that you didn't erase that file as I told you11:45
kong0man..thought i did11:45
ivokskong0: you left the part with CDROM11:45
microhaxohow the hell do i unlock this drive?11:45
Octanecan someone please take a look at this -- http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/120 -- its a relatively simple apt-get problem that should be easy to fix but is driving me nuts11:45
kong0this is actually fun...11:46
ivoksmicrohaxo: right click on CD icon, eject11:46
microhaxodont work11:46
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ivoksmicrohaxo: sure it does11:46
microhaxono11:46
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microhaxothere is no EJECT option11:46
ivoksmicrohaxo: if there is no programs locking it11:46
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ivoksmicrohaxo: haha11:46
ivoksthat's a lie11:46
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kong0ohh what a mistake11:46
microhaxoNoo11:46
microhaxono lie11:46
microhaxoim in file manager11:46
kong0seems to be done11:47
microhaxoright click11:47
ivokskong0: allready?11:47
microhaxosee no eject11:47
kong0uhuh...11:47
Octaneugggggggggggggh11:47
kong0root@MSHOME:/home/kong0 #11:47
ivokskong0: did it install mplayer?11:47
Seveasmicrohaxo, click unmount then11:47
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Seveasand eject with the eject button11:47
microhaxoseveas11:48
kong0adjusting mplayer -68611:48
naliothoctane run "apt-get -f install"11:48
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ivokskong0: great...11:48
kong0then done i guess11:48
microhaxothere is not unmount option in file manager by right clicking11:48
microhaxo?11:48
Octanenalioth, notice i tried and look what happened11:48
masahiroI'm back11:48
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Octaneit wants to remove kubuntu-desktop and kaffeine11:48
Seveasmicrohaxo, dou you use gnome or KDE?11:48
Octanesee pastebin11:48
ivokskong0: now go to applications/sound & video/mplayer11:48
masahiroAnd it's still not working :'(11:48
microhaxoGnome11:48
naliothOctane: you ran 'upgrade', not 'install'11:48
masahiroIt's too late tonight, but I have a thread at ubuntu forums11:48
Octanenalioth, the same thing happens11:48
Octaneapt-get -f upgrade wants to remove kubuntu-desktop and kaffeine11:49
kong0lol fonth path error11:49
Seveasmicrohaxo, bottom option is Eject...11:49
kong0i believe i need fonts11:49
ivokskong0: that's ok... first start...11:49
microhaxoof the right click?11:49
ivokskong0: forget about that...11:49
masahiroServeas: I have a thread about my problem at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=218564#post21856411:49
kong0ok11:49
ivokskong0: now install xine-ui too, it's much better than mplayer11:49
naliothOctane: don't worry about kubuntu-desktop11:49
Seveasmicrohaxo, yes11:49
ivokskong0: sudo apt-get install xine-ui11:49
microhaxothats propertys?11:49
Octanenalioth, what do you mean? i run kubuntu!11:49
naliothOctane: do you want to fix your problem? kubuntu-desktop will not remove anything (it is a metapkg)11:50
Octanenalioth, oh11:50
Octaneso what should i do apt-get -f upgrade let it remove kaffeine and kubuntu-desktop and then apt-get install kaffeine kubuntu-desktop ?11:50
naliothOctane: do you not want kaffeine?11:50
microhaxoseveas bottom option is Properties11:51
Octanei want to upgrade it11:51
kong0its started11:51
ivokskong0: did installation of mplayer pull other packages? like libasound, libdv, libdvdread, etc?11:51
naliothOctane: then do the -f install, let it remvoe both things11:51
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naliothOctane: then install just kaffeine11:51
kong0hello?11:51
Seveasmicrohaxo, you have to rightclick on the *CD* not on the mountpoint...11:51
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naliothOctane: then kubuntu-desktop11:51
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Seveasmicrohaxo, go to places->computer11:51
kong0its all silent...11:52
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microhaxoyay11:52
ivokskong0: what's silent? movie?11:52
microhaxotx11:52
ThE__OnEhow can  i make me the root?11:52
kong0i guess its all done then11:52
ThE__OnEbecause when i try to get irssi it says iam not the root11:52
naliothThE__OnE: use 'sudo'11:52
TomT64you use sudo11:52
ivokskong0: now, check on google what CVS is :)11:53
Octaneah ha! thank you nalioth !!!11:53
ThE__OnEbut why aint i the root?11:53
naliothOctane: yer welcome11:53
SeveasThE__OnE, you should not manually install irssi11:53
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SeveasThE__OnE, get it with the package manager11:53
TomT64ThE__OnE: becauser it's not smart to login to the GUI as root11:53
naliothThE__OnE: nobody (who's smart) who runs ubuntu is root11:53
Octanenalioth, now i understand what a meta package is :)11:53
SeveasThE__OnE: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo11:53
kong0did u really go?11:53
naliothOctane: ;)11:53
ivokskong0: ?11:53
TomT64nalioth: we have the same answers heh11:53
SeveasThE__OnE, and please do not install stuff thst is in the repositories manually which11:54
kong0no one else is typing either...suspicious...11:54
naliothTomT64: its all in my fingers11:54
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ivoks< kong0> no one else is typing either...suspicious...11:54
ivokslol11:54
kong0well im off cya might go in later11:54
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naliothwhatever that was a bout"11:54
naliothi say suspiciously11:55
SeveasI want to know whether my restore-my-mbr-script works :)11:55
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naliothSeveas: kewl! can we get a play-by-play?11:55
nadjylaHello :)11:55
microhaxoWHERE's my DrInk..11:55
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Seveasnalioth, if it works, i'll publish it11:56
Seveasit'll be the third in my series of useful-scripts-for-#ubuntu :)11:57
naliothSeveas: we want to hear you scream when it doesnt.. .. ..:P11:57
Seveasnalioth, lol :)11:57
SeveasI can always fix it manually ;)11:57
naliothdarn11:57
wdhnalioth, mbr isnt something a live-cd cant fix :)11:57
Seveaswdh, that's the purpose11:57
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Seveasautomating what you should do with a livecd11:57
Seveasso tomorrow i will boot this machine in windows11:57
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Seveasrun fdisk /mbr11:57
Seveasboot from a livecd11:58
Seveasand if all goes well, be back in ubuntu a few minutes later :)11:58
ThE__OnEso i should'nt use root? how do i disable it?11:58
wdhSeveas, hmmmz.. would love to see that working :) give me a msg when it does :)11:58
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wdhThE__OnE, by default, you are not root11:58
SeveasThE__OnE, root account is by default disabled :)11:58
microhaxoAHAH11:58
bl4cktoneubuntu is working so much better for me than fedora did11:58
SeveasThE__OnE: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo11:58
Seveasread that11:58
microhaxothis motherfkr is waht is FUBARING me up..11:58
microhaxoICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 12618, errno = 011:58
microhaxothat is why my cdrw locks!11:58
ThE__OnESeveas, iam there11:58
bl4cktoneHow is everyone?11:59
ThE__OnESeveas, if tis disables, then why is it asking me for it?11:59
ThE__OnEits disabled*11:59
LokeDKI was just wondering.. I've installed php4 from synaptic.. but where's the php from commandline?11:59
ivokslol12:00
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