[12:00] <mcscruff> is there a manuel way to install deb files without it checking dependencies?
[12:00] <LathropWells> HappyFool - did you say sa South America?
[12:00] <exobot> I'm trying to make ndiswrapper make my wireless card work...
[12:00] <heimdall> HappyFool :oh oh oh.... you're going too fast (sorry) I'm still with this kernel package, and you're telling me about another thing
[12:00] <HappyFool> LathropWells: south africa
[12:00] <djm62> mcscruff: you can force it with dpkg
[12:00] <HappyFool> heimdall: sorry ;)
[12:00] <LathropWells> HappyFool - Nice
[12:00] <mcscruff> i think if i force them both it should work
[12:00] <djm62> mcscruff: but you might just be better compiling from source...
[12:00] <HappyFool> LathropWells: i like it ;) except i wish i had dsl ;)
[12:01] <Cooner750> pfp; I get this error: tar: /mnt/fatdisk/homedir.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[12:01] <Cooner750> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[12:01] <djm62> mcscruff: forcing messes with the integrity of the package database
[12:01] <HappyFool> heimdall: basically, there's not too much to install
[12:01] <Prawntasm> My dhclient isn't receiving any offers, does anyone have any idea what's wrong?
[12:01] <heimdall> HappyFool : no pb, but I prefer understand what I'm doing.. and all of that is brand new (you better than anyone here know that I never succedeed:)
[12:01] <Cooner750> the external HD is mounted as sda
[12:01] <Cooner750> /mnt/sda
[12:01] <djm62> mcscruff: I just found the page...I don't know why ubuntu's so out of date
[12:01] <HappyFool> heimdall: quite a lot of what's necessary is already on the cd
[12:01] <pfp> Cooner750: mmm, replace /mnt/fatdisk with the dir where you mounted your fat32 partition to
[12:01] <mcscruff> dju62: i force it in other distros, hopefully ubuntu will be the same
[12:01] <LathropWells> HappyFool - two phonlines and a "Bonded Channel"?
[12:01] <heimdall> HappyFool : http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kernel-package&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all this one ?
[12:02] <mcscruff> but i use gui to force with them
[12:02] <HappyFool> LathropWells: you've completely lost me
[12:02] <LathropWells> HappyFool - shotgun modem.
[12:03] <HappyFool> LathropWells: err... ok ;)
[12:03] <djm62> mcscruff: maybe you should compile...
[12:03] <Cooner750> If I could just install Ubuntu on the external i'd be good to go. Will the installer let me resize a partiton?... gparted will not let me select any partition options on the external HD
[12:03] <HappyFool> heimdall: yeah
[12:03] <lukus001> is there a defult root admin password when you first install ubuntu?
[12:03] <HappyFool> heimdall: that and the two sl-modem- packages i pointed you to earlier
[12:03] <jasmuz> lukus001, no
[12:03] <heimdall> okay
[12:03] <pfp> lukus001: see this page:
[12:03] <HappyFool> lukus001: root is disabled by default. use sudo
[12:03] <pfp> !rootsudo
[12:03] <ubotu> I heard rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:04] <LathropWells> ubotu tell lukus001 rootsudo
[12:04] <LathropWells> lukus001 type  !rootsudo
[12:04] <exobot> ok, good
[12:04] <exobot> I am back to where I started ....
[12:04] <lukus001> ~!rootsudo event not found?
[12:04] <heimdall> HappyFool : during the downloading time, can you remember me how to mount my partition ?
[12:04] <HappyFool> heimdall: you'll also need to install 'build-essential', 'linux-headers-386' and 'dpkg-dev' -- all of these are on the install cd
[12:05] <heimdall> ok
[12:05] <heimdall> i note
[12:05] <HappyFool> heimdall: yeah, that's not too hard. you have an ntfs partition ?
[12:05] <exobot> goody, it's visible in the networking thing
[12:05] <exobot> OMG
[12:05] <exobot> OMG
[12:05] <exobot> OMG
[12:05] <exobot> it found.. another AP.. that means it must have scanned...
[12:05] <heimdall> I think 'build-essential have been already installed
[12:05] <exobot> that means.. it must be working!
[12:05] <heimdall> during the installation process
[12:05] <HappyFool> heimdall: it's not installed by default
[12:05] <carlos_> still havent found how to enable my second nic card
[12:06] <heimdall> oh
[12:06] <HappyFool> heimdall: most users don't need gcc ;)
[12:06] <heimdall> ok so .. :)
[12:06] <HappyFool> that's the theory, anyway
[12:06] <lsuactiafner> gcc rocks
[12:06] <pfp> lukus001: he meant on the channel :), that makes ubotu spit out the url
[12:06] <lsuactiafner> most ppl should have it jsut to brag
[12:06] <lukus001> oh
[12:06] <lukus001> !rootsudo
[12:06] <ubotu> rumour has it, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:06] <lsuactiafner> i like my woman like i like my programming.. c++
[12:06] <exobot> yeesssss
[12:06] <lsuactiafner> hehe
[12:07] <exobot> Ndiswrapper 1.2 is the way forward...
[12:07] <Cooner750> http://img77.echo.cx/img77/2029/screenshot9nj.png
[12:07] <heimdall> ok
[12:07] <HappyFool> heimdall: anyway, to mount an ntfs partition, first you must create the mount point: 'sudo mkdir /media/windows'
[12:07] <Cooner750> thats what happens with my external HD in gparted
[12:07] <heimdall> HappyFool : this is a FAT32 partition
[12:07] <HappyFool> heimdall: and then to mount it, 'mount -t ntfs -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/windows'
[12:07] <HappyFool> heimdall: err, ok
[12:08] <Cooner750> oops. hold on. wrong screenshot
[12:08] <exobot> Reboot time, please please work when I restart
[12:08] <HappyFool> heimdall: let me just read the man page quick ;) i think it's similar
[12:08] <heimdall> HappyFool : sorry ;)
[12:08] <pfp> nice backgroubd though
[12:08] <deviant> hello guys
[12:09] <heimdall> HappyFool : I've made a fat32 partition coz a friend of mine told me it was easier to share files between linux and windows
[12:09] <deviant> is there any way i cand make gaim to view a web cam from a user, using yahoo account ?!?
[12:09] <HappyFool> heimdall: it is. fat32 is read-write under linux, while ntfs is read-only
[12:09] <heimdall> ok
[12:09] <heimdall> so this is what I want
[12:09] <dooglus> peter_: no.
[12:09] <GNULinuxer> deviant, no
[12:09] <HappyFool> heimdall: i'm going to give you a read-only mount command, just for safety
[12:10] <heimdall> so it was a good advice, I'll thank him ;)
[12:10] <GNULinuxer> deviant, try gaim-vv
[12:10] <heimdall> HappyFool : oh ?
[12:10] <sorush20> has anyone here had problems with firefox installing Flash plugin in Ubuntu
[12:10] <djm62> gah
[12:10] <sorush20> quote; yes
[12:10] <heimdall> HappyFool : just for the moment ok
[12:10] <fps> In debian, the default mysql-server root user has no password.  In ubuntu, this seems not to be the case. Any clue what the mysql root user's password is by default?
[12:10] <dooglus> I've installed 'breezy'.  What's the easiest way to be able to run the old 'hoary' version of evolution?
[12:11] <exobot> HAH
[12:11] <exobot> YES
[12:11] <HappyFool> heimdall: sudo mount -t vfat -o umask=222,ro /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[12:11] <exobot> HAHAHA I BEAT YOU NDISWRAPPER
[12:11] <exobot> brb, connecting in xchat on ubuntu
[12:11] <heimdall> ',' ?
[12:11] <HappyFool> heimdall: then all your windows files will be available under /media/windows
[12:11] <HappyFool> yah
[12:11] <heimdall> ok
[12:12] <HappyFool> i'm reasonably certain that's correct... let me try it
[12:12] <heimdall> hum
[12:12] <lukus001> okay .... it says i dont have permission to write to the folder... how can i move a file from my desktop to a folder? drag and drop wont work ...
[12:12] <fps> heimdall, ',' seperates -o arguments for mount
[12:12] <heimdall> hda1 is the name of the partition no ?
[12:12] <heimdall> or the disk name ?
[12:12] <newuser> Excuse me, When I download a source code (like tor) where does it get saved?
[12:12] <HappyFool> heimdall: yeah. oh, that assumes that windows is on the first partition
[12:12] <newuser> =)
[12:12] <heimdall> HappyFool : yeah but this is not the one I wnat to share
[12:12] <HappyFool> lukus001: the file should be in /home/lukus/Desktop
[12:12] <heimdall> :)
[12:12] <heimdall> HappyFool : sorry lol
[12:12] <exobot> :D
[12:12] <HappyFool> lukus001: use 'sudo mv' to move it
[12:12] <exobot> yayyyy
[12:13] <exobot> LinuxJones, I got it working :)!
[12:13] <lukus001> yeah but  want to move it to var/install/java/1.4.2
[12:13] <lukus001> agh
[12:13] <heimdall> HappyFool : I think the is so hda2
[12:13] <lukus001> ah*
[12:13] <pedro_> mldonkey is post 127.0.0.1:4001 does not accept connections (core not found)
[12:13] <dooglus> newuser: what did you do to download the source code?
[12:13] <HappyFool> lukus001: or maybe 'gksudo nautilus' to get a 'root' nautilus
[12:13] <newuser> Well I was wrong, i'm sorry..
[12:13] <HappyFool> heimdall: ok, then /dev/hda2 instead of /dev/hda1
[12:13] <newuser> I meant, that i've downloaded tor,
[12:13] <newuser> But where can I save this to install it from the kernel?
[12:13] <heimdall> HappyFool : ok
[12:13] <newuser> I am reading, but I can't find my answer.
[12:13] <dooglus> newuser: how did you download it?
[12:13] <newuser> I'm, sorry..
[12:14] <HappyFool> heimdall: um, ok, so you've got the packages, you've got build tools
[12:14] <heimdall> HappyFool : and what is the read-only parameter in your command ?
[12:14] <HappyFool> heimdall: ro
[12:14] <newuser> ttp://mirror.noreply.org/pub/tor
[12:14] <djm62> newuser: I'm not quite clear on what you mean...
[12:14] <shekhar> hello anyone here know how to dial a mobile phone via bluetooth in hoary?
[12:14] <heimdall> HappyFool : obviously :-D
[12:14] <HappyFool> -o umask=222 sets the permissions to r-xr-xr-x for all files (means all users can read)
[12:14] <newuser> I'm just trying to set this up, but i'm having some difficulties..
[12:14] <newuser> =(
[12:15] <HappyFool> and the ,ro is an extra option, making the mount read-only
[12:15] <heimdall> HappyFool : rw or wr after ?
[12:15] <HappyFool> heimdall: it's rwx
[12:15] <djm62> newuser: have you enabled the other repositories in sources.list?
[12:15] <heimdall> lol oki :)
[12:15] <HappyFool> heimdall: sorry, i guess this is all linux-speak
[12:15] <heimdall> like chmod
[12:15] <newuser> No..
[12:15] <HappyFool> heimdall: yeah
[12:15] <heimdall> okay
[12:15] <djm62> newuser: tor is in the "universe" repository
[12:15] <HappyFool> heimdall: let me just take a last check at the package dependencies
[12:15] <dooglus> newuser: you just need to "sudo apt-get install tor"
[12:15] <newuser> How do I enable it?
[12:15] <heimdall> HappyFool : oki
[12:16] <djm62> newuser: which means if you uncomment (remove the '#' mark) the right lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:16] <djm62> newuser: you can use synaptic to install tor
[12:16] <HappyFool> heimdall: ah, you also need libasound -- that might be installed by default. it's on the cd if it isn't
[12:17] <djm62> newuser: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:17] <dooglus> newuser: 'tor' is in 'universe'.  you need to add 'universe' to your repositories
[12:17] <steob> any one have any ideas about this: ALSA /usr/src/alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a/alsa-kernel/pci/atiixp.c:518: atiixp: codec reset timeout
[12:17] <heimdall> HappyFool : lol.... this is horrible....
[12:17] <HappyFool> heimdall: yeah
[12:17] <newuser> Ah I see, well thanks alot.
[12:17] <HappyFool> heimdall: it's a lot easier if you're connected to the net
[12:17] <HappyFool> heimdall: ah-ha
[12:18] <HappyFool> heimdall: you also need module-assistant, which must be downloaded (again, packages.ubuntu.com)
[12:18] <heimdall> HappyFool : with me it has always be the hard way
[12:18] <heimdall> ..
[12:18] <HappyFool> heimdall: heh.
[12:18] <HappyFool> heimdall: ok, first install build-essential, dpkg-dev, linux-headers-386 and libasound (all from the cd)
[12:19] <HappyFool> heimdall: you should be able to use apt-get for all of those
[12:19] <HappyFool> heimdall: as in 'sudo apt-get install <packagename>'
[12:19] <heimdall> yeah
[12:19] <Codeman7> Hi, I have a problem. my X keeps freezing for a second or so every minute or so... if that makes sense. Pointer and typing just freeze for a second, and then resume.
[12:19] <HappyFool> heimdall: then install module-assistant, using dpkg: 'sudo dpkg -i module-assistant'
[12:19] <fps> In debian, the default mysql-server root user has no password.  In ubuntu, this seems not to be the case. Any clue what the mysql root user's password is by default?
[12:20] <lsuactiafner> Codeman7 : you got a slow pc?
[12:20] <HappyFool> heimdall: and then 'sl-modem-source', using dpkg again: 'sudo dpkg -i sl-modem-source'
[12:20] <Cooner750> what is the password for the default livecd user 'ubuntu'!? I accidently locked the screen and I have to use the power button to reboot and I lost all of my settings
[12:20] <Codeman7> lsuactiafner: 1.13GHz PIII?
[12:20] <newuser> Hey, thanks for the great link.. I'm really greatful. Bye
[12:21] <Codeman7> lsuactiafner: Ubuntu is running really smoothly and VERY quick, it's just the intermittent freeze that is causing problems.
[12:21] <heimdall> ok
[12:21] <lsuactiafner> onboard graphics card?
[12:21] <heimdall> and the deamon ?
[12:21] <exobot> mmmm
[12:21] <exobot> smooth
[12:21] <Codeman7> lsuactiafner: Yeah, it's a laptop. I am using the GeForce2 Go drivers, though, which made no difference.
[12:21] <djm62> newuser: come back if you have problems ;)
[12:21] <HappyFool> heimdall: also install kernel-package : sudo dpkg -i kernel-package
[12:21] <newuser> Hehe thanks alot..
[12:21] <lsuactiafner> Codeman7 : what are you doing when it stalls?
[12:21] <Cooner750> ubuntu runs very well on a AMD Athlon XP 3200 :)
[12:21] <Codeman7> lsuactiafner: Anything. Sitting at the desktop, using irssi, firefox...
[12:22] <lsuactiafner> your cpu might be going idle to save batteries
[12:22] <HappyFool> heimdall: ok, now you can read /usr/share/doc/sl-modem-source/README.Debian
[12:22] <HappyFool> heimdall: i'm giving you the 'make-kpkg' recipe mentioned there
[12:23] <heimdall> HappyFool : just sudo dpkg -i, and it will install the sources ?? no need to compile something ?
[12:23] <Codeman7> lsuactiafner: So what can I do about it?
[12:23] <griff> evening guys
[12:23] <HappyFool> heimdall: yes, but it will *only* install the sources
[12:23] <HappyFool> heimdall: we're still getting the compile bit ;)
[12:23] <benplaut> d*mn! flux is FAST!
[12:23] <lsuactiafner> Codeman7 : this is terrible but it might work... pgrep -u your_X_user | xargs renice -3
[12:23] <heimdall> aaaaah
[12:23] <heimdall> :)
[12:23] <lsuactiafner> use sudo
[12:23] <heimdall> it could'nt be that easy :)
[12:23] <benplaut> needs some GUI config tools, though
[12:23] <griff> trying to sort out vmware on ubuntu - I've downloaded the linux-2.6.10-5 headers and I'm trying to compile the kernel... getting this error - make[1] : *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.  Stop.
[12:23] <griff> any ideas?
[12:24] <lsuactiafner> benplaut : blackbox is faster
[12:24] <djm62> benplaut: fluxconf
[12:24] <Moe|Joe> hey
[12:24] <Moe|Joe> how do i go about editing a txt file in commandline?
[12:24] <djm62> benplaut: although there is satisfaction in making your own theme
[12:24] <HappyFool> heimdall: just a moment... i'm installing kernel-package
[12:24] <djm62> Moe|Joe: nano textfile.txt
[12:24] <pepsi> griff, compiling the kernel for vmware?
[12:24] <benplaut> djm62: i'm using it... but it's actually (IMO) easier to use the text files than that thing...
[12:24] <griff> ok
[12:24] <player1> Hi all!!
[12:25] <benplaut> hello
[12:25] <djm62> Moe|Joe: the ^s on the bottom represent the ctrl key for entering commands
[12:25] <lsuactiafner> Codeman7 : did it help?
[12:25] <griff> pepsi, when I try to install vmware, vmware complains with this error when I point it to the linux headers - The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic" is an existing
[12:25] <griff> directory, but it does not contain at least one of these directories "linux",
[12:25] <griff> "asm", "net" as expected. So does that mean I have to compile the kernel to create those directories?
[12:25] <player1> I am building a video game system... I need to control the mouse in KDE and fluxbox with the joystick... anyone know how i can do this? TIA :)
[12:25] <Codeman7> lsuactiafner: I keep getting "setpriority: Permission denied"
[12:25] <griff> heh - hope that doesn't count as a flood :D
[12:26] <Moe|Joe> (djm62): so i press ctrl+s yeh?
[12:26] <lsuactiafner> Codeman7 : sudo before the command
[12:26] <Codeman7> lsuactiafner: Didn't help
[12:26] <pepsi> griff, you should be able to just hit enter for the path to the headers
[12:26] <sorush20> guys how do you get into SU mode in the terminal in Ubuntu
[12:26] <Codeman7> lsuactiafner: That is, I did use sudo before it
[12:26] <djm62> Moe|Joe: ^X means ctrl-X for instance
[12:27] <Moe|Joe> kk
[12:27] <lsuactiafner> Codeman7 : run the command as root, get a root terminal then
[12:27] <djm62> Moe|Joe: when you run nano, the commands are listed at the bottom of the screen so you don't have to remember
[12:27] <Moe|Joe> writeout means save file?
[12:27] <Codeman7> lsuactiafner: K, that worked.
[12:27] <djm62> Moe|Joe: yeah
[12:27] <griff> pepsi, the default path that vmware suggests on installation is good old /usr/src/linux/include - but I don't have it (I'm using AMD64)
[12:27] <Codeman7> lsuactiafner: Alright, lemme use it for a few minutes and see if anything improved.
[12:27] <sorush20> I keep trying to get into the SU mode in the terminal but it asks me for a passwrod I only know of one pass since I installed Ubuntu and that doesn't work for the getting into SU mode.. can anyone help... please
[12:27] <djm62> Moe|Joe: although if you exit, it will ask if you want to save
[12:27] <pepsi> ah
[12:28] <Moe|Joe> kk
[12:28] <HappyFool> heimdall: ok
[12:28] <djm62> sorush20: there is no root passwd: use sudo with your own passwd to temporarily gain privileges
[12:28] <griff> so I probably don't have something installed
[12:28] <Moe|Joe> now my laptop shud boot up properly :)
[12:28] <Codeman7> nope, lsuactiafner ... still doing it.
[12:28] <heimdall> HappyFool : ok ?
[12:28] <sorush20> djm62: thanks for the tip ,  right.. why is that.. in fedora and suse this is not the case
[12:28] <HappyFool> heimdall: now cd to the linux 'source' directory: cd /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5
[12:29] <Codeman7> lsuactiafner: Someone suggested it may have something to do with laptop power management, but didn't know how to turn it off...
[12:29] <HappyFool> heimdall: then type 'sudo make-kpkg modules_image'
[12:29] <HappyFool> heimdall: a .deb file will appear in /usr/src
[12:29] <djm62> sorush20: ubuntu people think it's easier, and safer not to have a root user to tempt people to login as root, and not to have a rarely-used passwd that you HAVE to remember
[12:29] <lsuactiafner> Codeman7 : then as periodically here.. till someone can answer you.. i think its got to do with too-aggressive power management
[12:29] <HappyFool> heimdall: should be called sl-modem-modules-2.6.10_2.9.9a-1ubuntu4+10.00.Custom_i386.deb
[12:29] <heimdall> oh...
[12:30] <heimdall> wait wait wait :)
[12:30] <lsuactiafner> run top and check whats using resources when it stalls
[12:30] <HappyFool> heimdall: that is the compile step
[12:30] <HappyFool> heimdall: now install that package (using dpkg -i) and install sl-modem-daemon as well
[12:30] <HappyFool> heimdall: now your modem driver is installed
[12:30] <djm62> sorush20: you can enable the root passwd, but things run quite well without it, other than some specific cases
[12:30] <pepsi> griff, you using vmware 4 or 5?
[12:30] <heimdall> HappyFool : lol great.... this IS difficule :)
[12:31] <heimdall> difficult
[12:31] <HappyFool> heimdall: um, i don't know if sl-modem-daemon creates a /dev/modem -- if it does, then all you need to do is run pppconfig, or use the gnome network tool
[12:31] <griff> pepsi, two mins - getting somewhere here :)
[12:31] <HappyFool> heimdall: if it doesn't, you need to find out what it's called the modem (it'll be /dev/tty<seomthing>, probably)
[12:31] <HappyFool> and use than in pppconfig
[12:31] <HappyFool> man, it's late *yawn*
[12:32] <paintooth> asp on linux ^_^ http://www.sun.com/software/chilisoft/
[12:32] <paintooth> hi
[12:32] <Codeman7> lsuactiafner: Is gnome-terminal, while rug irssi, supposed to use 40-50% cpu?
[12:32] <Gombeni> how can I instruct mc to drop me in the last directory I was in before exiting it?
[12:32] <sggs> Hi folks. Installed ubuntu hoary on my dad's computer, with dual boot windows xp. I installed grub in the MBR. Everything worked fine for a couple of days when suddenly, now he gets "GRUB loading, please wait... / Error 15"
[12:32] <Codeman7> lsuactiafner: And something just jumped up while it froze but I couldn't catch it
[12:32] <sggs> what can I do to debug the problem?
[12:33] <Cooner750> brb
[12:33] <HappyFool> sggs: error 15 is 'file not found'
[12:33] <pfp> Gombeni: write a shell wrapper for it?
[12:33] <HappyFool> sggs: do you know what changed on the machine?
[12:34] <sggs> HappyFool: what file is it looking for? I don't think anything changed on the machine, except if winxp did it by itself
[12:34] <Gombeni> pfp: in some distros it did it by default
[12:34] <paintooth> Codeman7:  ?
[12:34] <sorush20> how the hell do you install java on Ubuntu?
[12:34] <HappyFool> sggs: at a guess, /boot/grub/menu.lst or another file in that directory (/boot/grub/) has gone missing, though i can't imagein why
[12:34] <M_Fatih> hi all
[12:34] <HappyFool> sorush20: see wiki.ubuntu.com/Java for instructions
[12:34] <fabio> Oh guys I am having problem with sound!! ;((
[12:35] <fabio> All of a sudden Ubuntu doesn't play the sound!!
[12:35] <pfp> Gombeni: i don't use mc... maybe there's a conffile option for it?
[12:35] <M_Fatih> i have a problem with my soundcard. i can't play sounds in my manually added user..
[12:35] <heimdall> HappyFool : hum, when you said "now install that package as well using dpkg -i" you mean for the .deb file ?
[12:35] <M_Fatih> i have joinned "audio grou"
[12:35] <M_Fatih> i have joinned "audio group" this user..
[12:35] <HappyFool> heimdall: yes, the one you created with make-kpkg
[12:35] <pfp> M_Fatih: have you logged out & back in after joining the group?
[12:35] <fabio> it was playing great till 5mins ago... I have then installed Mplayer for Firefox and after that it seemed to play about! ;((] 
[12:36] <HappyFool> heimdall: any last questions? I need to go to sleep
[12:36] <griff> pepsi,  fixed it :) stupidity on my part
[12:36] <M_Fatih> pfp, so many times.. :(
[12:36] <Codeman7> paintooth: what what?
[12:36] <pepsi> griff, what was the problem?
[12:36] <M_Fatih> i only listen music with my root user :..((
[12:36] <linux_newbie> Hi, can anyone help me with installing Apache, php, and MySQL??
[12:36] <heimdall> HappyFool : I think I won't manage for the first time, this is a lot of information for a rookie like me... but you deserve to sleep !!
[12:36] <paintooth> Codeman7:  strange gnome status
[12:36] <griff> I installed too many linux header packages and it confused something
[12:37] <HappyFool> heimdall: yeah, unfortunately it is complex :(
[12:37] <M_Fatih> linux_newbie, what is problem..?
[12:37] <pfp> M_Fatih: hmm. does running 'id' in a shell show this group?
[12:37] <sggs> HappyFool: can you check if anything is wrong here? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/115
[12:37] <djm62> gah...sound on linux needs the fix0r
[12:37] <fabio> Sound is Back!!! Yeeees :P
[12:37] <paintooth> Codeman7:  mine is ok
[12:37] <HappyFool> linux_newbie: use synaptic. system -> administration -> synaptic
[12:37] <fabio> linux_newbie, sure I will
[12:37] <HappyFool> sggs: just quickly. i'm falling asleep at the keyboard ;)
[12:37] <heimdall> HappyFool : I can't do much to thank you but ....
[12:37] <linux_newbie> i have everything installed
[12:37] <heimdall> HappyFool : it was very nice to take all this time to explain to me
[12:38] <fabio> linux_newbie, http:127.0.0.1 and see what happen?
[12:38] <linux_newbie> now how can i configure and run apache with php and mysql?
[12:38] <HappyFool> sggs: is that it?
[12:38] <HappyFool> heimdall: no problem ;)
[12:38] <fabio> linux_newbie, oh uhm yes, just a se
[12:38] <HappyFool> heimdall: i hope you get it working
[12:38] <sggs> HappyFool: I snipped the beginning to tell the truth
[12:38] <linux_newbie> fabio, let me try that
[12:38] <HappyFool> sggs: the top half of that file is missing
[12:38] <HappyFool> sggs: ah
[12:38] <HappyFool> sggs: good ;)
[12:38] <linux_newbie> fabio, i get the default apache page where it tells me to replace it with my own page
[12:38] <heimdall> HappyFool : I hope so.... but you now what ? if I don't, I'll try, try try try and try again ;)
[12:38] <linux_newbie> what about the php?
[12:39] <fabio> linux_newbie, great, no u need php
[12:39] <HappyFool> heimdall: good stuff
[12:39] <heimdall> know*
[12:39] <linux_newbie> i installed everything
[12:39] <fabio> linux_newbie, sudo apt-get install php4
[12:39] <Cynetix> Hello :) I just installed ubuntu and it installed grub and rebooted but went into XP instead of ubuntu. Any suggestions.
[12:39] <linux_newbie> i just don't know what to do next
[12:39] <linux_newbie> fabio, i did that already
[12:39] <fabio> well u are done
[12:39] <HappyFool> sggs: can you also paste up there the output of 'ls -l /boot' and 'sudo fdisk -l' ?
[12:39] <sggs> HappyFool: I'm suspicious about the /dev/sda7 part. sda7 appears to be /home, while sda6 is /
[12:40] <HappyFool> sggs: hmm
[12:40] <linux_newbie> what about the mysql, how do i know if it works?
[12:40] <linux_newbie> and the php
[12:40] <phoenixp3k> what is the path to the printer program in Ubuntu?
[12:40] <HappyFool> sggs: but why would it have changed?
[12:40] <fabio> linux_newbie, you are done, next? Place a file inside /var/www called info.php or whatever pleases you
[12:40] <linux_newbie> ok
[12:40] <sggs> HappyFool: yep, a second, just booting the ubuntu live cd
[12:40] <linux_newbie> should i try phpinfo fabio??
[12:40] <fabio> linux_newbie, and type inside that file      <?php phpinfo() ?>
[12:41] <linux_newbie> ok
[12:41] <HappyFool> sggs: i really do need to go to bed ;)
[12:41] <linux_newbie> let me do that fabio
[12:41] <djm62> futurama calls
[12:41] <sggs> HappyFool: can you wait 5 more minutes please? :)
[12:41] <HappyFool> sure
[12:41] <fabio> linux_newbie, about MySql? Well just get PHPMyadmin, and it will hopefully run, so you can see MySql if it's working or not ;P
[12:42] <linux_newbie> i have herd of php myadmin
[12:42] <Codeman7> paintooth: oh... yeah, I dunno... it's fine now :/
[12:42] <linux_newbie> but how do i get it fabio?
[12:42] <fabio> linux_newbie, get what? phpmyadmin? http://www.phpmyadmin.com
[12:42] <paintooth> #@$%^^%&*(
[12:42] <sggs> HappyFool: why I think anything could have changed on this computer is because the hard drive is making a weird sound...
[12:42] <HappyFool> sggs: eek
[12:42] <sggs> lol
[12:42] <paintooth> randon ol
[12:43] <paintooth> randon lol
[12:43] <fabio> linux_newbie, oh remember that for every file you want to put into /var/www you must be root
[12:43] <sggs> HappyFool: even though I'm booting a live CD. It shouldn't access the hard drive should it?
[12:43] <deviant> can anyone help me. when i`m using gaim-vv web cam feature, the only thing i cand see is a green bird. what`s rong?
[12:43] <HappyFool> sggs: it might read the drive
[12:43] <sggs> HappyFool: I'm at the "Starting Enterprise Volume Management System" part of the boot process
[12:43] <fabio> linux_newbie, so just do like   sudo gedit /var/www/test.php
[12:44] <linux_newbie> oh, ok fabio, thank you
[12:44] <paintooth> hehe
[12:44] <limer> anyone here familiar with PAN?
[12:44] <fabio> linux_newbie, yw, oh sorry the link was http://www.phpmyadmin.net
[12:45] <linux_newbie> oh, ok fabio
[12:45] <fabio> linux_newbie, just download the latest version, extract into the www dir and lunch the index.php ;) Have fun
[12:45] <Fanskapet> hmm is WINE working in 64bit linux yet?
[12:45] <fabio> launch
[12:46] <linux_newbie> Thank you soo much fabio
[12:46] <paintooth> hehe
[12:46] <fabio> linux_newbie, no probs, you welcome, ask if you got other probs ;)
[12:47] <linux_newbie> o, i will
[12:47] <limer> anyone here familiar with the PAN newsreader?
[12:47] <sggs> HappyFool: that's a long time reading...
[12:47] <linux_newbie> g2g for now, i will be back
[12:47] <HappyFool> sggs: hmm
[12:47] <phoenixp3k> could someone at least tell me the name of Ubuntu's printing program?
[12:47] <HappyFool> phoenixp3k: i think the print manager is called 'cups'
[12:48] <Fanskapet> isn't cups only the driver interface?
[12:48] <linux_newbie> fabio, u here?
[12:48] <HappyFool> not sure. i don't have a printer ;)
[12:48] <fabio> linux_newbie, sure
[12:48] <sggs> HappyFool: the noise stopped, but nothing is happening any more...
[12:48] <phoenixp3k> HappyFool, thanks I'll look into it
[12:48] <linux_newbie> when i go to http://localhost/tet.php it asks me to download it??
[12:48] <linux_newbie> **test.php
[12:48] <HappyFool> phoenixp3k: see System -> Administration -> Printing
[12:49] <sggs> linux_newbie: you need to set the php mime type in apache
[12:49] <fabio> linux_newbie, ohh, you didn't do the installation correctly then
[12:49] <HappyFool> sggs: nothing?
[12:49] <linux_newbie> ok, so what do i have to do?
[12:49] <HappyFool> sggs: the live-cd boot has frozen?
[12:49] <fabio> linux_newbie, or the configuration rather
[12:49] <linux_newbie> ok, can u help me with that?
[12:49] <sggs> HappyFool: right, looks so. stopped at enterprise volume management system
[12:49] <fabio> linux_newbie, will try just a sex
[12:50] <likkashot> damnit im going to die before i get this nic card to work
[12:50] <fabio> oppps sec
[12:50] <phoenixp3k> HappyFool, my browser asks that I specify the printer program location
[12:50] <sggs> before I've managed to boot without any problem. The noise was there though
[12:50] <linux_newbie> fabio, what?\
[12:50] <HappyFool> sggs: but previously ubuntu was installed with no problems?
[12:50] <HappyFool> phoenixp3k: sorry, as i said, i don't have a printer. try /usr/bin/lpr, see if that works
[12:50] <fabio> linux_newbie, sorry I meant just a sec, anyway this will probably help you: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#apachehttpserver
[12:51] <linux_newbie> let me see if that site will help me, fabio
[12:51] <HappyFool> sggs: it looks like you might have a hardware problem, but i don't know
[12:51] <sggs> HappyFool: Yes and no: yes because I could boot into Ubuntu or Windows at choice, and no because ubuntu wouldn't start the Xserver because of some graphic card compatibility problem
[12:51] <fabio> linux_newbie, sure, it worked for me ;)
[12:52] <sggs> HappyFool: That's what I'm thinking as well. Since the computer is new and still under waranty, I told my dad I won't spend too much time on it...
[12:52] <HappyFool> sggs: i'm not sure what to suggest
[12:52] <HappyFool> sggs: i'd backup the data and try to get a new drive, or whatever
[12:52] <HappyFool> sggs: anyway, i'm off to bed
[12:52] <sggs> HappyFool: Thanks anyways. good night
[12:52] <HappyFool> good night ;)
[12:52] <newuser> I need a C, compiler.. Does anyone have a clue of which package I should obtain for that? =)
[12:52] <sorush20> guys I'm trying to this directory to install flash manually but its not working I get the message that the directory does not exsists
[12:52] <sorush20> cd//home/sadaf/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux
[12:52] <pepsi> newuser, build-essentials
[12:53] <ompaul> newuser, g__
[12:53] <ompaul> newuser, g++ sorry
[12:53] <newuser> Huh?
[12:53] <mjr> newuser, pepsi, actually, build-essential, without the s
[12:53] <newuser> Hehe, either which?
[12:53] <pepsi> ok
[12:53] <newuser> Hehe..
[12:53] <ompaul> newuser, apt-get build-essential - is a lot more than the compiler but is really useful
[12:53] <linux_newbie> fabio, thanks for the site
[12:54] <newuser> Okay i'm on it.
[12:54] <newuser> Thanks,
[12:54] <linux_newbie> i may be on later if i need any more help, i appreciate it
[12:54] <fabio> linux_newbie, np, di it work?
[12:54] <phoenixp3k> HappyFool, thanks for the help, I think I found the right program in that directory
[12:56] <likkashot> any ubuntu wizzards in here
[12:56] <robertj> likkashot: not I, but if you ask a question you might attract the attention of one
[12:56] <fabio> likkashot, why what r u looking for?
[12:56] <dampjam> I have a very strange problem, like a memory leak.  I recently installed Ubuntu on a laptop that functions as a router.  It runs DHCP Server 3, has a few ip tables rules, and ssh.  Over a week, the time to connect via ssh slows down, then will not accept any, and at that point DHCP server stops giving out ips, but the iptable rules still work.
[12:57] <ompaul> one persons wizzard is anothers junior sys admin, ask your question and see what happens likkashot
[12:57] <likkashot> ive been here since last night hahaha=
[12:57] <linux_newbie> fabio, i followed the guide, but it still asks to download the file
[12:57] <dampjam> It's like it will not start any more threads
[12:57] <chillywilly> hey ppl
[12:57] <SeamusLP> dampjam:  Does restarting DHCP help?
[12:58] <fabio> linux_newbie, hmm, have you downloaded the extra repositories and everything b4 trying to install php?
[12:58] <chillywilly> I have several problems after installing Ubuntu amd64 on my penguin computing server
[12:58] <linux_newbie> yes
[12:58] <dampjam> SeamusLP: by the time it's that slow, I cannot even login locally to try to restart it
[12:58] <likkashot> I got a a network card problem  , I got 2 onboard card and one of them wont be discovered at all
[12:58] <linux_newbie> let me try agian, fabio
[12:58] <ompaul> likkashot, I still wonder what your question is
[12:58] <SeamusLP> dampjam:  Try setting up a cron job to restart it once or twice a week
[12:58] <fabio> linux_newbie, ok, I won't be here for long anyway, time to go to bed soon ;)
[12:58] <chillywilly> 1) I get this message: scsi_proc_hostdir_add: proc_mkdir failed for <NULL>
[12:59] <likkashot> How do I make it work
[12:59] <linux_newbie> fabio, it still asks to download
[12:59] <linux_newbie> any ideas?
[12:59] <dampjam> SeamusLP: hmmm, not sure I like that idea
[12:59] <newuser> Ahh shoot, I need the damn cd to install build-essential
[12:59] <newuser> I don't have seem to have it anymore!
[12:59] <ompaul> likkashot, make what work? I am not good at getting blood out of a stone
[12:59] <SeamusLP> dampjam:  I'm not proposing that as a permanent solution, but for troubleshooting
[12:59] <dampjam> Are there utilities to see how ram is used by programs / what could be kiling the machine?
[12:59] <fabio> linux_newbie, yes is not setted properly, so apache doesn't recognise that is a php file...
[12:59] <chillywilly> it's has RAID 5 with a 3ware 9500 SATA card in it
[12:59] <bartekp> dampjam: top
[12:59] <linux_newbie> oh
[01:00] <SeamusLP> dampjam: top is a good command-line utility
[01:00] <linux_newbie> how do i make it recignize the file, fabio?
[01:00] <fabio> linux_newbie, i think it should inside apache settings or php.ini i cannot remember, just trying to google it 4 you
[01:00] <dampjam> I know about top, but I will not be home most of the day, and by the time it gets so bad, I cannot log in.  Is there a script that can email hourly results
[01:01] <dampjam> maybe a top | sendmail ?
[01:01] <fabio> linux_newbie, ohh did u restart apache after you installed mysql?
[01:01] <deviant> can somebody help me with installing gst-jpeg2000-1.0.0 pls!!
[01:01] <linux_newbie> yes
[01:01] <SeamusLP> dampjam:  Hmm I'm certain there's a way to do that, but I'm not sure about the specifics.  Hold on just a second.
[01:02] <chillywilly> anyone know anything about this message: scsi_proc_hostdir_add: proc_mkdir failed for <NULL>
[01:02] <linux_newbie> fabio, did i have to edit the http config file??
[01:02] <fabio> linux_newbie, oh that's the one, try to have a look for file extension, like php php3 and so
[01:03] <linux_newbie> fabio, how do i get to that file?
[01:03] <linux_newbie> i just know it from windows
[01:04] <fabio> linux_newbie, just a sec
[01:04] <linux_newbie> ok
[01:04] <absintheos> I have installed xfce4, and I would like to remove Gnome. However, I have gotten my sound fixed using alsa/oss
[01:05] <absintheos> If I remove gnome will it break Alsa?
[01:05] <absintheos> How could I remove gnome?
[01:06] <nalioth> absintheos: are you short of space on your HD?
[01:06] <dampjam> absintheos: install debian with the server option, or get Kubuntu
[01:06] <fabio> linux_newbie, i think should be somewhere in /etc
[01:06] <linux_newbie> fabio, let me look
[01:06] <SeamusLP> dampjam:  You'll have to ask someone else about that or google it, I can't get in contact with a very knowledgeable friend ;)
[01:07] <fabio> linux_newbie, yes > /etc/apache2
[01:07] <linux_newbie> ok
[01:07] <absintheos> nalioth: No I'm not, I just don't use it anymore =)
[01:07] <dampjam> SeamusLP: well thanks for all your help, I'll try to keep it running, and use nice to make it the highest priority, so it should last beyond hte dhcp server
[01:07] <SeamusLP> dampjam:  also, try man sendmail
[01:07] <deviant> can somebody help me with installing gst-jpeg2000-1.0.0 pls!!
[01:07] <linux_newbie> fabio, there are two folders, one is apache, and apache 2, which one?
[01:08] <chillywilly> the real show stopper is: fsck.ext3: Filesystem has unsupported features (/boot) then *fsck: Get a newer version of e2fsck
[01:08] <sorush20> guys when I use  Nautilus I get the message that I don't have permision to write to these files.. how can I change this..
[01:08] <linux_newbie> fabio, never mind
[01:08] <chillywilly> then I have to ctrl-d to finish the boot up
[01:08] <Fanskapet> ahh damn nice to have that ext3 driver for windows
[01:08] <linux_newbie> ok, i have the httpd.conf file open in text editor
[01:08] <linux_newbie> now what, fabio?
[01:09] <nalioth> Fanskapet: better to have the ext3 in linux (without the filthy part)
[01:09] <chillywilly> danielb@corporate:/etc/apt$ e2fsck -V
[01:09] <chillywilly> e2fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
[01:09] <chillywilly>         Using EXT2FS Library version 1.35, 28-Feb-2004
[01:09] <chillywilly> is that old?
[01:09] <fabio> linux_newbie, that's pretty strange, and I think that's why is not working, u got 2 instances of Apache installed
[01:09] <Fanskapet> nalioth can't change from windows totally since i use alot of windows apps :)
[01:10] <Fanskapet> don't wanna exchange windows totally either for that matter :)
[01:10] <nalioth> Fanskapet: wine won't let them limp along?
[01:10] <Fanskapet> both installed is just fine for me :)
[01:10] <linux_newbie> ah, how do i fix that, fabio?
[01:10] <nalioth> Fanskapet: you havent been able to transition to *nix?
[01:10] <fabio> linux_newbie, via synaptic is the easiest way
[01:11] <Fanskapet> yeah that would probably do the trick but i don't find any interest in changing totally to linux really.. there are still things that's need to be worked on before it will serve all my needs
[01:11] <Fanskapet> especially the window managers.
[01:11] <linux_newbie> fabio, ok
[01:11] <Fanskapet> GNOME has most of the features i want but it's really slow as hell..
[01:11] <fabio> linux_newbie, into synaptic type apache and you will see the full list of apache stuff you got on your system, if Apache and Apache2 are installed remove both of them, and follow the guide I gave you
[01:12] <fabio> linux_newbie, from scratch, without any instance of apache would be better...
[01:12] <chillywilly> hello ppl why is it complaining about my /boot partition and not being able to run fsck on it? I formatted it with the amd64 installer
[01:12] <nalioth> Fanskapet: i just abhor the filth that windoze attracts online (and the fact that the filth finds windoze easily impressionable)
[01:12] <Fanskapet> nalioth what do you mean by that?
[01:12] <absintheos> So, how can I remove Gnome now that I'm using Xfce4. Will it break my sound?
[01:13] <linux_newbie> fabio, thank you
[01:13] <Fanskapet> absintheos why remove it? why not just leave it be and run XFCE instead?
[01:13] <absintheos> I dunno
[01:13] <fabio> linux_newbie, np, yw, what synpatic shows?
[01:13] <chillywilly> will this kernel work on amd64: linux-image-2.6.11-1-amd64-xeon ?
[01:13] <nalioth> Fanskapet: i don't like to spend roughly 8-10% of my time in front of a puter, setting and keeping up 'defenses' from virii, trojans and just plain bad code (exploits)
[01:13] <absintheos> Fanskapet: I hate that it
[01:14] <absintheos> 's taking up space.
[01:14] <Fanskapet> absintheos, hmm small harddrive? :)
[01:14] <nalioth> Fanskapet: and i believe that for windoze (l)users, that is about the right amount of time (if not, you probably are loaded with 'guest filth')
[01:14] <absintheos> Fanskapet: =)
[01:14] <chillywilly> wth is AMD K8...seems to be the only SMP kernel present in the archive
[01:15] <Fanskapet> nalioth hmm.. setting up defenses? if you're behind a firewall then there's no problem regarding trojans... and just install a simple antivirus app and that will solve your problem
[01:15] <fabio> linux_newbie, I must go now! ;)
[01:15] <linux_newbie> fabio, i just took a screen shot of what it looked like
[01:15] <Fanskapet> and.. not do as all the stupied users that get's infected.. don't open files that you have no idea what it is.
[01:15] <nalioth> Fanskapet: most everyday windoze boxen users, don't know 'simple av', and this is my pet peeve, and i really don't want to get started here
[01:15] <Fanskapet> haven't got a trojan or even a virus infection for about.. hmm 6 years or so
[01:15] <fabio> linux_newbie, must go, its too late here ;) catcth you tomm
[01:16] <chillywilly> will dual opteron 246's be able to use: linux-image-2.6.11-1-amd64-k8-smp ?
[01:16] <nalioth> Fanskapet: needless to say, i run PPC ubuntu on my two macs (havent owned a windoze box in over 5 years)
[01:16] <Fanskapet> hmm
[01:16] <Fanskapet> well well..
[01:16] <Fanskapet> i prefer having both installed
[01:17] <Fanskapet> nalioth, well soon you'l need to switch back to x86 anyway if you want to be able to run OSX :)
[01:17] <nalioth> Fanskapet: the only use i personally would use windoze for is to convert that fa*$**G wmv9 to something usable
[01:17] <nalioth> Fanskapet: wherever Apple and Jobs takes me, i'm sure it will be pleasant
[01:18] <Fanskapet> hmm..
[01:18] <deviant> can somebody help me with installing gst-jpeg2000-1.0.0 pls!!
[01:18] <Moe|Joe> hi...i need help wit wireless networks...jus install my wifi adapter wit ndiswrapper...now how do i config the wifi adapter to connect to my wireless network?
[01:19] <Fanskapet> well well.. will be nice to be able to run OSX on my laptop someday.. will probably happen even if apple makes it "non compatible" with ordinary x86 machines.. probably just needs some patch that ignores the BIOS version or so
[01:19] <Moe|Joe> and need to set it up wit static settings
[01:20] <nalioth> deviant: what is the prob u are having?
[01:21] <nalioth> Fanskapet: apple keeps a close eye on its hardware/software integration. a big reason why "it just works"
[01:21] <chillywilly> dpkg: warning, architecture `amd64' not in remapping table <-- sup with that?
[01:21] <Moe|Joe> can anyone help
[01:21] <Moe|Joe> ?
[01:21] <Fanskapet> nalioth, yes apple has always used great hardware but at a awfully high price
[01:22] <Fanskapet> i was very fond of my PowerMac 7500 when it was new.
[01:22] <Fanskapet> but it cost alot
[01:22] <nalioth> Fanskapet: i'm using an iBook G3/600 right now (running ubuntu) that runs OSX faster then when it was new
[01:22] <deviant> nalioth: i get this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/116
[01:23] <nalioth> Fanskapet: Apple stuff lasts a whole lot longer than pc stuff (and now let the flames begin)
[01:23] <deviant> nalioth: iBook rulez. i envy you :)
[01:23] <Fanskapet> nalioth depending on what you mean by that
[01:23] <gek> how do i install a program in a .deb file. i thought it was dpkg -i package.deb but it says "dpkg: need an action option"
[01:23] <nalioth> Fanskapet: to the point of "why is my windoze machine running soooooooo slooooooow?"
[01:23] <nate> I need some help with nVidia...anybody have a second?
[01:24] <Fanskapet> the PPC CPU achitecture is better than x86 in general not that much though but a bit.. but it's not apple who produce their CPU
[01:24] <thenuke> nate: reinstall windows?
[01:24] <nalioth> gek that should be correct, are you root?
[01:24] <nate> lol no I just want to install the 6629 drivers
[01:24] <nate> but I don't know how
[01:24] <gek> no, i used sudo
[01:24] <deviant> nalioth: so what do you think about http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/116 ?
[01:24] <gek> "sudo dpkg -i opera-blahblahblah.deb"
[01:24] <Fanskapet> nalioth, the main reason why Apple "stuff lasts longer" is that the most of the new games and "stuff" only is ported to x86
[01:24] <nalioth> deviant: there was no binary pkg available for it?
[01:25] <deviant> nalioth: not that i`ve find off
[01:25] <gek> i dont think i can tolerate another day of firefox
[01:25] <Fanskapet> my current laptop, Acer Ferrari 3200 will "last" veeeeery long if i don't care about all the newest games.
[01:25] <nalioth> deviant: have you tried having apt build it for you?
[01:25] <nalioth> gek what is the prob?
[01:25] <deviant> nalioth: how do i do that ?
[01:25] <nate> Can anybody tell me how to install the 6629 drivers?
[01:26] <deviant> nalioth: "gst-jpep2000-1.0.0.x86.package"  <-- binary package ?
[01:26] <likkashot> nvidia mobo and ubuntu no good
[01:26] <nalioth> Fanskapet: also, apple 'books, tend not to sterilize males who actually use them on their laps
[01:26] <nalioth> deviant: hang on a minute
[01:26] <deviant> nalioth: ok, sure
[01:26] <nalioth> likkashot: really?
[01:26] <henry_> im a newbie here, if i change my motherboard, CPU, do i need to recompile my kernel?
[01:26] <gek> i tried it from a root terminal and it worked fine, weird
[01:27] <gek> henry: yes
[01:27] <decaf> likkashot: why? I'm planning to buy an nvidia chipset mainboard
[01:27] <nalioth> likkashot: c'mon spill the beans on the nforce boards
[01:27] <decaf> henry_: what's your kernel now?
[01:27] <henry_> its ...hold on
[01:28] <Fanskapet> nalioth, hummz. all new laptops get's warm
[01:28] <jazzka> hi!
[01:28] <henry_> decaf its 2.6.10
[01:28] <nalioth> Fanskapet: i can see i've started the vi vs emacs thing
[01:28] <Fanskapet> nalioth you can't make them much colder than they are right now since the CPU/GPU get's warm.. it's impossible
[01:28] <nalioth> Fanskapet: to each their own
[01:28] <decaf> henry_: 2.6.10-386 ?
[01:28] <henry_> yeah
[01:29] <Fanskapet> and it doesn't do me much harm really.. there are things called desks or tables :)
[01:29] <jazzka> is there any gmail notifier for ubuntu (gnome) ???
[01:30] <paxon> jazzka, use firefox?
[01:30] <jazzka> paxon, yep
[01:30] <paxon> jazzka, find gmail extension.
[01:30] <caonex> anybody here has ever used vnc through ssh?
[01:30] <likkashot> nalioth , I have a k8n neo4 platinum and for 2 days now I cant get the 2nd network card to work
[01:30] <decaf> henry_: 386 means the origin of all 32 bit intel and amd cpu's. you dont need a new kernel. but, I recommend a proper kernel for your new cpu. if it's a P4, install 686 kernel package.
[01:30] <nalioth> caonex: yes i do it all the time
[01:30] <jazzka> paxon, ok thanks!
[01:31] <henry_> decaf i just checked again, its 686 :D
[01:32] <nalioth> deviant: WHERE did you get that source code?
[01:32] <decaf> henry_: 686 means pentium pro or newer
[01:32] <deviant> nalioth: http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/install.html
[01:33] <nalioth> deviant: hang on anothr minim
[01:33] <chillywilly> *sigh*
[01:33] <henry_> decaf i currently have a P4 1.2ghz but I like to upgrade to P4 3.2ghz
[01:35] <decaf> henry_: so there isn't any problem. you may want to learn how works 'kernel-package' and compile a kernel spacially for p4 later.
[01:35] <nalioth> deviant: you d/l the .tar.gz, right?
[01:36] <deviant> nalioth: yeah
[01:36] <henry_> ok thanks decaf :)
[01:36] <decaf> henry_: yw
[01:36] <Moe|Joe> is there a apt-get search feature?
[01:36] <decaf> Moe|Joe: yes, try apt-cache
[01:36] <deviant> Moe|Joe: apt-cache search
[01:37] <Moe|Joe> so
[01:37] <nalioth> deviant: were there any configure options?
[01:37] <nalioth> Moe|Joe: use synaptic
[01:37] <caonex> nalioth, well i am trying to do it but the client never finally opens....but when i kill it, it shows up and tells me something, any ideas?
[01:37] <Moe|Joe> aot-cache search <name of program?
[01:37] <nickthedick> anyone here use ati?
[01:37] <nalioth> caonex: w/o further explainin, no
[01:37] <iluciv> why would when I go to run a script (filename.sh) with the command [sudo sh filename.sh]  it do nothing and just give me the command prompt agian
[01:37] <sorush20> guys i can't write files to some of the folder in my computer just because I'm not the owner.. but I am the owner .. can anyone help this super user problem in Ubuntu is killing me..
[01:38] <nalioth> iluciv: when it does nothing, that means it rans successfully
[01:38] <iluciv> sorush20: sudo??
[01:38] <deviant> nalioth: not that i know off
[01:38] <deviant> nalioth: ./configure  --prefix=/usr
[01:39] <nalioth> deviant: nother minim, pls
[01:39] <iluciv> nalioth: but it is a script for a kernel upgrade meant to download latest kerenl and install
[01:39] <nalioth> iluciv: read above
[01:39] <Moe|Joe> anyone recommend a decent program to use to search for wireless networks?
[01:40] <chillywilly> bah....
[01:41] <iluciv> nalioth: sorry you meant ./configure
[01:41] <Fanskapet> ahh. soon Zeta 1.0 will be released.
[01:41] <Fanskapet> hope that one will support my Ferrari-racer.
[01:41] <nalioth> deviant: try ./configure --help   <ya might find something interesting
[01:41] <Fanskapet> that will make me happy a while atleast :)
[01:41] <linux_newbie> how do u uninstall programs?
[01:42] <deviant> nalioth: i did. and i didn`t :)
[01:42] <deviant> nalioth: all i could come up with was --enable-dependency-tracking
[01:42] <linux_newbie> does anyone know how to uninstall a program?
[01:42] <nalioth> deviant:  --with-libj2k=PREFIX    Compile the libj2k codec plugin, using the libj2k library
[01:42] <nalioth> linux_newbie: use synaptic
[01:43] <linux_newbie> nalioth, i tryed that, but when i restarted the computer, all the files were still there
[01:43] <gek> does anyone know a way i can use Opera mail to access either hotmail or gmail or some other free email service?
[01:43] <nalioth> linux_newbie: when you click on the proggy next time, select 'mark for total removal'
[01:44] <linux_newbie> nalioth, i did that
[01:44] <nalioth> gek: surf to gmail.com?
[01:44] <gek> no, i mean the opera mail client
[01:44] <deviant> nalioth: and PREFIX means ...what ?
[01:44] <nalioth> linux_newbie: then i'm not sure.
[01:44] <linux_newbie> i will try agian
[01:44] <decaf> gek: gmail has 'pop' support, use it. no way for hotmail
[01:44] <nalioth> deviant: where the libj2k files/headers are
[01:44] <chillywilly> bah
[01:44] <gek> cool
[01:45] <sorush20> guys in is there anyone using limewire on ubuntu here.. can you let me know.. please
[01:45] <caonex> nalioth, well i just did the following command: ssh -L 5900:filma.mine.nu:5900 filma.mine.nu
[01:45] <nalioth> sorush20: give gtk-gnutella a try
[01:46] <lukus001> what location should a file be at to use "apt-get" on it
[01:46] <decaf> lukus001: use dpkg directly
[01:46] <lukus001> whats that?
[01:46] <caonex> nalioth, me?
[01:47] <decaf> lukus001: I have to say: RTFM!
[01:47] <deviant> nalioth: lol. i have no ideea where that lib is located :P
[01:47] <lukus001> RTFM!
[01:47] <lukus001> ?
[01:47] <decaf> lukus001: Read The Fucking Manual
[01:48] <lukus001> oh =P
[01:48] <nalioth> deviant: well thats what its failing on
[01:48] <floo> Hi guys. Can anyone tell me how to change my splash screen please?
[01:48] <linux_newbie> does anyone know how to stop the apache service?
[01:48] <lukus001> funny, cause i am... rofl
[01:48] <nalioth> decaf: i always thought it was the Fine manual, alas
[01:48] <linux_newbie> floo, i can help you
[01:48] <floo> thank you newbie
[01:49] <linux_newbie> you go to System>Administration>Logon Screen Setup
[01:49] <floo> ok
[01:49] <linux_newbie> does that gelp, floo?
[01:50] <linux_newbie> * i mean help
[01:50] <floo> it's not my login screen that I want to change it's the splash screen after when x is starting up
[01:50] <floo> but thanks anyway
[01:50] <deviant> nalioth: shouldn`t be located in /usr/lib/ ?
[01:50] <linux_newbie> oh, i am not sure floo
[01:50] <nalioth> deviant: if you have it
[01:50] <floo> not to worry
[01:51] <nalioth> deviant: perhaps you should google it and see if it compiles.. .. .. first
[01:51] <gek> anyone have a gmail invite they can send me? [ isnoop no longer works ] 
[01:51] <gek> anytime, sooner the better
[01:52] <paxon> linukso, I assume /etc/init.d/apache2 stop ?
[01:52] <floo> can anyone else help me change my splash screen? the one that you see when x is starting.  Not my login screen
[01:52] <gek> nalioth, thanks in advance
[01:54] <decaf> gmail gave 50 invitations to all users. so if you want gmail account, send mails to mehmet.kose@gmail.com, remember, gmail has a strong spam filter!
[01:54] <^thehatsrule^> lol...
[01:55] <SeamusLP> what the crap is google doing, just bring it open to the public for christ sakes
[01:55] <^thehatsrule^> i think everyone who wants one has one if not a long time ago ;p
[01:55] <paxon> floo, check http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26513
[01:55] <Moe|Joe> can anyone recommend a program i can use to config my wireless network
[01:55] <decaf> SeamusLP: this is the best way for them. gmail will stay beta for years
[01:56] <SeamusLP> decaf:  Everything that google comes out with stays in perpetual beta.  How very convenient, if something goes wrong, hey, its just a beta!
[01:57] <glDaher> hello, I want to be able to share my internet with a lan
[01:57] <glDaher> eth0 -> modem     eth1 - > lan
[01:57] <glDaher> both are active and ready
[01:58] <glDaher> anyone?
[01:58] <deviant> nalioth: how do i install an .autopackage  ?
[01:58] <^thehatsrule^> glDaher, ya you can do that..
[01:59] <SeamusLP> deviant: ubuntu doesn't come with autopackage by default, its a fairly new thing.  You have to go to the autopackage website and install it.
[01:59] <nalioth> deviant: i have no idea what an .autopackage is
[01:59] <deviant> oh, i see :(
[02:00] <marcel> I need help with APT. With debian, all packages downloaded automatically get stored in /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:00] <SeamusLP> Plus I don't think the devs like autopackage, it doesn't exactly integrate with apt
[02:00] <marcel> it would seem ubuntu is different...
[02:00] <nalioth> SeamusLP: is autopackage available in uni or multi do you know?
[02:00] <Adyeths> i tried using autopackage... but not all the autopackage things worked for me in ubuntu.
[02:00] <SeamusLP> nalioth:  Maybe for breezy, not for hoary
[02:00] <glDaher> ^thehatsrule^: hmmn, how? o.O what do I need?
[02:01] <^thehatsrule^> google :)
[02:01] <glDaher> google will help in general, but not in ubunu
[02:01] <nalioth> deviant: did you find the source for the libj2k?
[02:01] <glDaher> :P
[02:01] <^thehatsrule^> search for debian
[02:01] <marcel> Does anyone know what to edit to stop archives being deleted? :S
[02:02] <ivanox> is it Kingston that got lifetime warranty on the memories?
[02:03] <marcel> legend has
[02:03] <ivanox> are u sure kingston hasn't?
[02:03] <marcel> No.
[02:03] <marcel> if in doubt, google
[02:03] <ivanox> yeah
[02:05] <deviant> nalioth: yes. /usr/local/lib/
[02:05] <ivanox> "Lifetime Warranty: The following Kingston products are covered by this warranty for life: memory modules including ValueRAMTM "
[02:05] <deviant> nalioth: but gst-jpeg still doesent work
[02:05] <bigfoot1> hello everyone. I'm having a hardtime seeing some links on a number of Blog websites. For example, on http://adrian.warnock.info/. The webmaster of that site said that the problem may be taken care of by just enabling popups and by enabling Javascript. Well, I have done both and still the links are invisible. ANd to even further, I started firefox with a new profile, and still the same problem. I have posted a screenshot of how the webpage l
[02:05] <bigfoot1> ooks on my end at http://img239.echo.cx/img239/2041/screenshot8al.png
[02:05] <ivanox> my module is valueram so Im lucky :)
[02:05] <decaf> when it gets kaput, kingston will say "it's dead, lifetime warranty is over"
[02:05] <nalioth> deviant: same error?
[02:05] <bigfoot1>  if someone can help me, i'd be moste appreciative.
[02:05] <deviant> nalioth: make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/deviant/Desktop/gst-jpeg2000-1.0.0/src'
[02:06] <ivanox> hehehe ;)
[02:07] <gek> bigfoot1: my advice, try opera
[02:07] <zyth> yay NWN works
[02:08] <nalioth> bigfoot1: why use a page that isnt universally acceptable?
[02:08] <bigfoot1> gek, i used opera before. it's nice, but i don't like the banner/wasted space.
[02:08] <bigfoot1> nalioth, are you sure that that is the problem?
[02:08] <sorush20> guys why isn't a clean cut file structure like the My Documents forlder in windows in the Ubuntu for each user...
[02:08] <bigfoot1> I thought the problem was just with me somehow, nalioth .
[02:09] <nalioth> bigfoot1: ANY browser should render ANY page (thats where IE causes such trouble)
[02:09] <iluciv> is there a irc room pertaining to linux scripts
[02:09] <zyth> sorush20, um.. /home/user ... ?
[02:09] <jde> sorush20: Because this isn't MS-Windows.
[02:09] <robotgeek> nalioth: :)
[02:09] <bigfoot1> nalioth, do you use firefox?
[02:10] <bigfoot1> that's the browser i'm using to view these pages.
[02:10] <nalioth> bigfoot1: no i do not, i find it slow and <rant rant rant>
[02:10] <gek> sorush20: thats what /home is for
[02:10] <nalioth> bigfoot1:  i use galeon as my personal choice of browser
[02:10] <sorush20> jde, yes but to a new be to linux it just seems really inconsiderate  of the ubuntu builders..
[02:11] <nalioth> sorush20: any unix like system is the same. all of YOUR stuff is in YOUR home directory
[02:11] <egg> nalioth:  bad looking
[02:11] <bigfoot1> do you have firefox on your system? can you check out the page to see if it's a firefox-specific problem?
[02:11] <jde> sorush20: Take it up with the suggestion box.
[02:11] <gek> "mkdir /home/sorush/documents"
[02:11] <nalioth> egg: as mentioned, personal preference (i close my eyes while surfing)
[02:11] <sorush20> I know how to make a directory..
[02:11] <egg> nalioth:  ummm ^_^
[02:11] <D1> tried FC4....went straight back to ubuntu!
[02:12] <egg> nalioth: like me
[02:12] <sorush20> howmany of you have all your doc, music files, video files, and all other files just in the home directory..
[02:12] <nalioth> bigfoot1: ok wait on
[02:12] <robotgeek> sorush20: count me in
[02:12] <sorush20> and not any subdirectorie..
[02:12] <sorush20> robotgeek, how do you mean..
[02:12] <jde> sorush20: I've got my music and videos on my server.
[02:12] <robotgeek> find ~/ -name | grep <whatever>
[02:13] <sorush20> do you have it in the same folder..
[02:13] <sorush20> ?
[02:13] <robotgeek> sorush20: why not?
[02:13] <jde> As for documents I've  got it under my home directories heirarchy.
[02:13] <sorush20> jde, do you have it in the same folder..
[02:13] <robotgeek> i just make folders and throw it in
[02:13] <nalioth> bigfoot1: what exactly is your browser not seeing, mine shows words, pix all kinda crap
[02:13] <Garbanzo> does anyone know how to get xpde on ubuntoo
[02:14] <jde> sorush20: No.
[02:14] <nalioth> Garbanzo: xpd<what>?
[02:14] <xiaogil> is there a command like ls that gives a number for each file listed, from 1 to x, or that tells how many files there is in a directory ?
[02:15] <jde> sorush20: By the way nautilus comes with a documents icon, try looking that up.
[02:16] <vinux> I got some splashscreens for grub. Can someone help me configure one?
[02:16] <sorush20> Document's Icon.. do you mean an emblem.
[02:16] <decaf> xiaogil: do it yourself:  "ls -1 | wc -l" for example
[02:17] <robotgeek> ls -l | grep --count ""
[02:17] <sorush20> not me I don't know anything about grub..
[02:17] <sorush20> maybe you could go to a grub channel..
[02:17] <Cooner750> when I get gparted installed can someone help me with it?
[02:17] <sorush20> if there is one that is..
[02:17] <johnnny> how can i move a file from desktop to aother folder?
[02:18] <bigfoot1> nalioth, what my browser is not seeing:  http://img239.echo.cx/img239/2041/screenshot8al.png
[02:18] <Randall> ubuntu install failes at timezone what can I do to get past it
[02:18] <gek> johnnny, use nautilus and drag and drop it to where you want it
[02:18] <decaf> Cooner750: you can't use it on a mounted directory. use runfromCD distros like knoppix
[02:19] <xiaogil> decaf: thanks!
[02:19] <gek> or go to a terminal and type "mv ~/Desktop/file /destination
[02:19] <gek> "
[02:19] <linux_newbie> when i do a complete uninstall of a program ,some of the files don't delete, is that ok?
[02:19] <Cooner750> decaf: I'm using a livecd. Cant I just unmount the external drive and then resize and make a partition?
[02:20] <decaf> linux_newbie: use '--purge'  for removing configuration files
[02:20] <Cooner750> I see that the reason I can resize the NTFS internal drive is because it did not mount
[02:20] <sorush20> guys what calendar program would you recommend for Ubuntu
[02:20] <Cooner750> i'll be back soon. getting something to eat
[02:21] <Randall> anyone know why?
[02:21] <linux_newbie> how do i get to purge decaf??
[02:21] <deviant> nalioth: may i ask you something: how come ur using ubuntu on apple hardware, in stead of osx, which is far better than ubuntu in all imaginable ways ?
[02:21] <bartekp> Randall: sudo tzconfig
[02:22] <decaf> linux_newbie: apt-get --purge remove <package-name>
[02:22] <Randall> berniv6, so just load the shell
[02:22] <Randall> becuse its failing at the install
[02:22] <robotgeek> deviant: i am using linux on my powerbook too
[02:22] <deviant> robotgeek: ermmm. why is that ?
[02:23] <robotgeek> deviant: better is a subjective term...openoffice sucks on osx
[02:24] <bigfoot1> hi all, does w3m text browser have javascript support?
[02:24] <Randall> bartekp, I ment
[02:25] <Cooner750> Ok. I can resize the external drive when I unmount it. But could someone explain the logic of resizing?
[02:25] <robotgeek> damn...need to quit once
[02:25] <Cooner750> Like;.. nevermind. hard to explain
[02:26] <Cooner750> there is 18,965MB used and 95,506 free. How could I resize this?
[02:28] <Cooner750> Ok. I just resized down to leave a 5GB partition in ext3 format
[02:29] <Cooner750> so should I apply 2 things:
[02:29] <Cooner750> 1. Resize /dev/sda1/ from 114,471 to 108,976
[02:30] <Cooner750> and 2. create primary partition #2 (ext3, 5,495)
[02:30] <Cooner750> is that correct?
[02:30] <Cooner750> someone please help
[02:30] <gek> resizing, you must be brave
[02:30] <xiaogil> How to do so that each time i type ln, it executes ls | nl ?
[02:31] <gek> cooner: sounds right
[02:31] <sorush20> guys anyone know a good radio program to download...
[02:31] <gek> i would be too afraid of loosing data though
[02:31] <bartekp> xiaogil: alias ls='ls | nl'
[02:31] <Cooner750> unfortunatly that drive has my music collection on it. I'm just a paranoid person
[02:32] <shabazmo> hey guys a question :)
[02:32] <Cooner750> is 5GB enough for ubuntu?
[02:32] <Cooner750> in ext3 format
[02:32] <bartekp> Cooner750: yes
[02:32] <decaf> Cooner750: yes
[02:32] <shabazmo> to log inj as root from the log in screen I do what now after the login screen setup
[02:32] <nalioth> xiaogil: make an alias in your .bashrc file
[02:32] <xiaogil> bartekp: in which file is it saved, so that i can change it if needed ?
[02:32] <xiaogil> ok
[02:32] <parabolize> shabazmo: just use sudo
[02:33] <bartekp> xiaogil: no one, you can add it to your .bash_profile
[02:33] <Cooner750> how do I take a snapshot of the gparted window?
[02:33] <shabazmo> I dont want to just use sudo :)
[02:33] <eyequeue> how do i go about re-enabling alt-ctrl-f1 in gnome?  some sort of keymap issue? (breezy)
[02:33] <shabazmo> I would like to be able to log in as roo t:)
[02:33] <decaf> Cooner750: use gimp
[02:33] <gek> sorush: "Music Player" in sound & video menu works with net radio stations
[02:33] <xiaogil> bartekp, nalioth: is it .bashrc or .bash_profile that i should change ?
[02:33] <gek> xmms is another option if you like the winamp style
[02:34] <parabolize> shabazmo: If you are tired of typing "sudo" all the time, switch to root user by issuing "sudo -s -H" followed by user password
[02:34] <bartekp> xiaogil: imho better is .bash_profile
[02:34] <shabazmo> yes but I would like to be able to log in as root :)
[02:34] <Cooner750> how do I use gimp to take a snapshot?
[02:34] <shabazmo> as it says in ubuntuguide.org
[02:34] <eyequeue> shabazmo:  applications > system tools > root terminal
[02:34] <bigfoot1> aside from firefox, is there another browser that is pre-installed?
[02:34] <shabazmo> but I dont have the root username for somereason
[02:34] <decaf> Cooner750: 'acquire' at menu
[02:35] <shabazmo> again Log in as root
[02:35] <shabazmo> like at the gnome log in screen
[02:35] <eyequeue> shabazmo:  root is disabled in ubuntu, a security design feature
[02:35] <shabazmo> and cant you re-enable it is the login screen setup?
[02:35] <shabazmo> like it says
[02:35] <shabazmo> in the security tab
[02:36] <eyequeue> shabazmo:  that is gnome, not ubuntu
[02:36] <shabazmo> ah
[02:36] <shabazmo> I see
[02:36] <eyequeue> shabazmo:  that tab is for gdm options
[02:36] <shabazmo> yes
[02:36] <gek> you should never run gnome/x as root
[02:36] <shabazmo> yes it is
[02:36] <gek> never ever
[02:36] <gek> ever
[02:36] <shabazmo> am I asking what I should do
[02:36] <shabazmo> no just help on doing something which I see is impossible now
[02:36] <shabazmo> :(
[02:36] <eyequeue> shabazmo:  ubuntu disables root all over the system, not just in a gui, this is for your own protection
[02:36] <gek> you dont have to, my opinion comes free
[02:37] <ivanox> anyone here tried wormux?
[02:38] <eyequeue> shabazmo:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:38] <chillywilly> yaaaay
[02:38] <ivanox> sup ?
[02:38] <cthulfuego> sky ?
[02:38] <eyequeue> how do i go about re-enabling alt-ctrl-f1(or f2-6) in gnome?  some sort of keymap issue? (breezy)
[02:38] <chillywilly> I reinstalled and this time I deleted and recreated all paritions so that Ubuntu made the partitions and then no more complaints about ext3 attributes not supported and all that crap
[02:38] <bigfoot1> how do we do a hard reload in firefox?
[02:39] <bartekp> cthulfuego: hi spammer d-;
[02:39] <chillywilly> installing smp kernel now
[02:39] <cthulfuego> bartekp: shift-reload ?
[02:39] <eyequeue> bigfoot1:  are you asking for ctrl r
[02:39] <Cooner750> brb. imageshack keeps saying that the filetype is not accepted
[02:40] <bigfoot1> eyequeue, i think so. thank you. ctrl r will fetch the page from the website right, and not from our cache, right+
[02:40] <bigfoot1> ?
[02:40] <eyequeue> bigfoot1:  right
[02:40] <bigfoot1> theanks
[02:40] <bartekp> cthulfuego: i don't understand you, sorry my english is poor \;
[02:40] <cthulfuego> bigfoot1: if you hold down shift, it won't re-use the cache for any of the leemnts on the page.
[02:40] <cthulfuego> s/leements/elements/
[02:41] <bigfoot1> what's the difference betwen shift+ctrl+r and ctrl+r?
[02:41] <cthulfuego> bigfoot1: cache usage
[02:42] <gek> i'd be interested to find out how many people here speak english as a second language
[02:42] <bartekp> gek: I
[02:42] <gek> i bet quite a few
[02:42] <housetier> survey time
[02:42] <housetier> eye speeka de lengueedge
[02:43] <gek> unfortunately english is the only language i speak fluently
[02:43] <cthulfuego> only *you* can change that! ;-)
[02:44] <gek> learning human languages is _hard_ when you arnt brought up with them - i know some broken french, dutch, and a very little german
[02:45] <gek> here where i live (ontario) its hard to find language lessons/tutors for anything other than french
[02:45] <cthulfuego> The latin is just gone.
[02:45] <housetier> I know German, English, and Violence
[02:45] <iluciv> ugh
[02:45] <decaf> european languages comes from same origin. it's not so hard for german people to learn english or dutch
[02:46] <cthulfuego> decaf: You'd be amazed
[02:46] <nalioth> bigfoot1: dja get sorted?
[02:46] <bigfoot1> does ubuntu come with any other browser aside from firefox and w3m?
[02:46] <gek> so far of the languages i have tried to learn, dutch is the easiest and the most fun
[02:46] <anto9us> hmm.. I don't think they're all latin based decaf
[02:46] <bigfoot1> nalioth, unfortunately not. 8-(
[02:46] <nalioth> bigfoot1: does it do the same thing in galeon or epiphany?
[02:46] <sorush20> guys my video is jumpy when I try to play a dvd player .. can anyone help please..
[02:46] <decaf> cthulfuego: and I have no idea what you mean. with my poor english :)
[02:47] <cthulfuego> gek: Ha, dat zeggen ze allemaal, maar er is niks, van waar!
[02:47] <eyequeue> decaf:  some of us don't have the same brain as childhood
[02:47] <nalioth> sorush20: enable DMA?
[02:47] <bartekp> decaf: polish is worse to learen than english or dutch
[02:47] <iluciv> can anyone help or point me to help on linux scripting
[02:47] <holycow> sorush20, yeah google for what nalioth and goog hdparm, that should fix it
[02:47] <decaf> bartekp: you should take a look at turkish and see how different it is
[02:48] <eyequeue> decaf:  there can be no language learning for me from here forward
[02:48] <bartekp> decaf: but Poland is near Germany, it is central Europe
[02:48] <bigfoot1> nalioth, i don't have galeon or epiphany.
[02:48] <bigfoot1> do i?
[02:49] <eyequeue> bigfoot1:  apt-get install lynx
[02:49] <eyequeue> bigfoot1: with ubuntu,  you decide what apps you prefer
[02:49] <nalioth> bigfoot1: easy to fix, "sudp apt-get install galeon epiphany kazehakaze"
[02:49] <nalioth> crap
[02:49] <nalioth> bigfoot1: easy to fix, "sudo apt-get install galeon epiphany kazehakaze"
[02:50] <gek> cthulfuego, i got most of that; rough translation = "everyone says that, but there isnt anything .....?"
[02:51] <gek> my dutch is "neit goede"
[02:52] <we2by> it is "niet"
[02:52] <gek> not
[02:52] <bigfoot1> eyequeue, can lynx read javascript stuff?
[02:52] <gek> i cant spell in english either
[02:52] <eyequeue> bigfoot1: fortunately not
[02:53] <linux_newbie> I uninstalled Apache web server, but i can still access the page on localhost
[02:53] <linux_newbie> what did i do wrong?
[02:53] <housetier> close your browser
[02:53] <linux_newbie> i did
[02:53] <eyequeue> bigfoot1: though links links2 or elinks allegedly can (you'd have to experiment yourself, i don't use those)
[02:53] <linux_newbie> i restarted i
[02:53] <linux_newbie> it
[02:54] <eyequeue> linux_newbie:  telnet localhost 80
[02:54] <bigfoot1> nalioth, what do you mean "easy to fix"? u referring to my problem?
[02:54] <cthulfuego> gek: "That's what they all say, but it's all lies!"
[02:54] <nalioth> bigfoot1: you can google "links twibright labs" and at twibright labs website d/l the src for a links that will use javascript AND show graphics
[02:54] <linux_newbie> eyequeue, what do u mean?
[02:54] <bigfoot1> what's kazehakaze?
[02:54] <nalioth> bigfoot1: yes, galeon, epiphany and kazehakaze are 3 other browsers
[02:54] <eyequeue> linux_newbie:  telnet localhost 80 <- rn that command
[02:54] <linux_newbie> oh
[02:54] <linux_newbie> ok
[02:55] <eyequeue> linux_newbie:  connection refused?
[02:55] <linux_newbie> yea, connection refused
[02:55] <eyequeue> linux_newbie:  apache is gone then
[02:55] <sorush20> nalioth, how the hell do i set dma permanently on the DVD player.. so that it playes DVDs the right way all the time..
[02:56] <linux_newbie> really? then why is that page still showing?
[02:56] <eyequeue> linux_newbie: clear your browser's cache and it will agree
[02:56] <linux_newbie> let me do that.....
[02:56] <Jesse1> is there any memory editors for ubuntu? i googled but didnt find any
[02:56] <fazer> Hello
[02:56] <bigfoot1> nalioth, when you say "easy to fix", do you mean that i can fix my firefox problem by using another browser?
[02:56] <fazer> Has anyone here installed php in Ubuntu?
[02:56] <cthulfuego> Jesse1: vim /proc/kcore ;-)
[02:57] <ivanox> what is the site with lots of gnome apps?
[02:57] <fazer> I apt-get'ed php and php-cli but when I execute a php script from the command line it just prints out the html source code.
[02:57] <nalioth> bigfoot1: try them, they are FREE
[02:57] <cthulfuego> fazer: Does your code start with <?php  ?
[02:57] <nalioth> sorush20: i'm not sure how to do that
[02:57] <bigfoot1> nalioth, please answer my question about what you mean by "easy to fix"
[02:57] <bigfoot1> .
[02:57] <bigfoot1> 8)
[02:58] <linux_newbie> eyequeue, when i type http://localhost in the broswer, it says connection refused
[02:58] <fazer> cthulfuego: ofcourse.
[02:58] <nalioth> bigfoot1: i (and a lot of other users find firefox to be not a good browser <opinions i've seen in here>)
[02:58] <linux_newbie> so does that mean apache is gone?
[02:58] <sorush20> there you go again.. this is why Linux and Ubuntu are all shit..
[02:58] <nalioth> bigfoot1: you have a choice of over 10 browsers for linux
[02:58] <eyequeue> linux_newbie:  right
[02:58] <linux_newbie> thank u
[02:58] <nalioth> bigfoot1: why use one that doesnt render properly?
[02:58] <fazer> oh shit
[02:58] <cthulfuego> fazer: You'd be amazed ;-) How are you running the script?
[02:58] <fazer> no wonder
[02:58] <{4Xsample> Hy people
[02:59] <eyequeue> linux_newbie:  there are no listeners (such as apache) on port 80, the http port
[02:59] <fazer> cthulfuego: haha, i am idiot, my php source code is php code but all formatted in HTML!  hahah I am soo lame =(
[02:59] <nalioth> sorush20: are you referring to my ignorance?
[02:59] <sorush20> this about it.. I mean I just want to play a god damn DVD, I don't want to know anything else .. its just stupid..
[02:59] <sorush20> no..
[02:59] <sorush20> nalioth no..
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[02:59] <cthulfuego> fazer: Traditionally we do that the other way around ;-)
[02:59] <nalioth> sorush20: i have knowledge about lots of things, but not DMA
[02:59] <cthulfuego> !dma
[03:00] <cthulfuego> Stupid long factoids :-P
[03:00] <sorush20> nalioth, i didn't mean to upset you you misunderstood..
[03:00] <nalioth> sorush20: it is unfortunate that nobody is here atm, that can answer your question
[03:01] <fazer> chillywilly: Aye =/
[03:01] <xiaogil> Is there an option in wget to prevent the download of a file that already exists in the current directory ?
[03:01] <djjason> has anyone heard of this problem I am having on my laptop running hoary, after some X amount of time running on battery (this never happens when on AC) the computer freezes...so completly that I have to shut it down....usually this happens when I am using the touchpad
[03:01] <egg> hi,I am back ^^
[03:01] <nalioth> sorush20: linux is for 'tweakers'. people who like to tinker with their OS
[03:01] <fazer> hmm, how would I go about recovering a deleted file in Linux?
[03:01] <nalioth> xiaogil: "man wget" or "wget --help" will tell you -nc will enable "no clobber"
[03:01] <nalioth> fazer: you are screwed
[03:01] <sorush20> yea..
[03:01] <sorush20> I know.. I'll get there..
[03:01] <sorush20> one day...
[03:02] <synd_> nalioth: yo
[03:02] <nalioth> synd_: HO!
[03:02] <egg> ?
[03:02] <{4Xsample> I need urgent help please my server crashed completely and I need to reinstall I had an old debian potato installed upgraded to woody but when I upgraded to sarge crashed everithing so I need to install something to run the fucking web server  I tried all the new linux distros I had time to download, debian, suse, ubuntu, even with livecds like knoppix, audiator, etc. and all of them crash during the install
[03:02] <anto9us> djjason: acpi standby locks my laptop up since I installed the fglrx driver
[03:02] <fazer> nalioth: thanks
[03:02] <Epix> how do i get a desktop in wine??
[03:02] <{4Xsample> maybe the hardware is a bit old PII 500
[03:03] <cthulfuego> Epix: 'wine explorer.exe'
[03:03] <paxon> how do you launch thunderbird from console?
[03:03] <nalioth> fazer: please think before deleting stuff
[03:03] <fazer> nalioth: I was just wondering
[03:03] <fazer> I deleted an unimportant file
[03:04] <synd_> nalioth: whats that link that talks about mac os and how apple isnt stupid and its just to get hackers to run mac os on x86's
[03:04] <{4Xsample> with ubuntu the last line on screen is isapnp: No plug & Play device found
[03:04] <{4Xsample> smebody can help me?
[03:04] <djjason> anto9us: really.....I recently also installed fglrx
[03:04] <nalioth> fazer: cuz unlike windoze, in linux, when its deleted, its really gone (unless you want to spend a few grand)
[03:04] <holycow> nalioth, rofl
[03:04] <holycow> tell me about it
[03:04] <holycow> heh
[03:04] <Epix> cthulfuego, uh, cannot find explorer.exe
[03:04] <cthulfuego> Epix: Then you can't.
[03:05] <Epix> cthulfuego, can i get explorer.exe somehow?
[03:05] <holycow> and deleting a large number of small files can be incredibly "efficient"
[03:05] <nalioth> Epix: what are you trying to do?
[03:05] <holycow> there are times when you don't want a delete to be efficient
[03:05] <cthulfuego> Epix: Yes, but I severely doubt it would run without Internet Explorer, IIS and Media Player integrated into it ;-)
[03:05] <holycow> >_>
[03:05] <holycow> bbiab watchin moobies
[03:05] <djjason> anto9us: have you solved the problem by removing it or?
[03:05] <nalioth> holycow: deleting the entire system is 'efficient' also    :P
[03:05] <anto9us> djjason: your touchpad may not be queried by acpi properly and you system goes into standby, thus locking it
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[03:05] <anto9us> djjason: no, I disabled standby
[03:06] <{4Xsample> nobody knows where I can find someting can helpme to find a solution?
[03:06] <{4Xsample> I tried everithing
[03:06] <djjason> anto9us: how would I go about fixing that...do you know?
[03:06] <anto9us> djjason: at 1920x1200 resolutions the binary drivers make a big difference, it was a trade off
[03:06] <gek> including upsidedown questionmarks?
[03:07] <djjason> anto9us: I see..
[03:07] <anto9us> djjason: I'm hear that acpi standby/suspend won't work with the binary drivers
[03:07] <cthulfuego> {4Xsample: Check the RF1 through F8 jelp screens at bootup and see if/how to disable isapnp at bootup.
[03:07] <fazer> nalioth: ah, yeah, i know, i guess that has its pros and cons
[03:08] <Adross> is there any gui for editing video files which would allow me to alter to starting time of the audio
[03:08] <Adross> ?
[03:08] <cthulfuego> Adross: cinellera
[03:08] <djjason> anto9us: well I aint using the driver now its just installed
[03:08] <anto9us> Adross: Videolan player can offset sound and stream output to a file
[03:08] <{4Xsample> thanks cthulfuego
[03:09] <Cooner750> does this look good?: http://www.riccbhard.bravehost.com/gparted2.gif
[03:09] <Adross> thanks
[03:09] <Cooner750> brb. again :/
[03:09] <Adross> bye
[03:09] <{4Xsample> but I think I tried this option
[03:09] <sandrush> .org
[03:09] <anto9us> djjason: xorg isn't configured for it?
[03:10] <cthulfuego> oohheeer
[03:10] <linux_dude> does anyone know a good guide for setting up apache php and mysql?
[03:10] <cthulfuego> apt-get install apache2 mysql-server libapache2-mod-php4 php4-mysql
[03:11] <djjason> anto9us: no I dont think so
[03:11] <linux_dude> do u know a guide that explains it?
[03:11] <linux_dude> (apache, php,mysql)
[03:11] <cthulfuego> linux_dude: apache comes with docs, but you shouldn't need to do anything after running that commandline.
[03:12] <linux_dude> but what about configuring php and mysql??
[03:12] <siimo> hi anyone know how to fix this issue : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27233
[03:12] <cthulfuego> linux_dude: the mysqls erver comes with docs, php won't need any configuring.
[03:12] <siimo> i tried reinstalling ubuntu too
[03:13] <anto9us> djjason: 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep fglrx' will tell you
[03:13] <cthulfuego> linux_dude: It's not that hard to do. Just check the files in /usr/share/doc/apache2 and /usr/share/doc/mysql-server
[03:13] <anto9us> djjason: if not configured then that command will return nothing
[03:14] <djjason> anto9us: yeah ...nothing
[03:14] <siimo> this is the reason i might go back to warty
[03:15] <anto9us> djjason: does it happen when your machine is left idle too or just when using touchpad?
[03:16] <Epix> nalioth, what am i trying to do? run some stuff with wine :)
[03:16] <siimo> can someone tell me how to download a source deb patch it and recompile
[03:17] <djjason> anto9us: it only happens when I am on battery.....and It happens while I am working on it......all of a sudden it freezes completle...the hdd lights it lid constantly and I have to brutaly shut it down
[03:17] <nalioth> Epix: be careful you dont kill (as in kill -9) your linux doin that
[03:17] <gteppel> My ISP is connected to eth0, while I have a static ip set for eth1. In /etc/init.d/dhcp I changed the default interface from eth0 to eth1. However when dhcp starts on bootup it complains about there being no subnet declaration for eth0. Why isn't it starting on the right interface??
[03:17] <anto9us> djjason: I'd say that acpi would be an obvious culprit
[03:20] <anto9us> djjason: do you have any other battery monitor tools installed?
[03:20] <djjason> anto9us: nope....nothing extra
[03:22] <{4Xsample> cthulfuego: I cant find an option to prevent load isapnp in the instalation boot
[03:22] <anto9us> djjason: what's the make and model of your laptop?
[03:22] <{4Xsample> I disabled the pnp on the bios and the problem still here
[03:22] <djjason> anto9us: Compaq X1000
[03:27] <son> hi
[03:27] <shanon> How do I blank a re-writable disc in ubuntu ?
[03:27] <shanon> How do I blank a re-writable disc in ubuntu ?
[03:27] <shanon> oops
[03:28] <son> i dunno
[03:28] <son> anyone want to play a network game of Gnibbles?
[03:29] <son> anyone want to play a network game of Gnibbles?
[03:29] <LinuxJones> shanon, you can install some cd burning software like graveman
[03:29] <LinuxJones> shanon, or you can do from a command line
[03:30] <LinuxJones> shanon, gui's are nice tho :)
[03:30] <son> anyone want to play a network game of Gnibbles?
[03:30] <Adyeths> GnomeBaker is a nice gui for cd burning. (and blanking. heh.)
[03:30] <shanon> LinuxJones: I would normally use cdrecord but for some reason ubuntu doesn't use the same settings for my burner as gentoo does (same system)
[03:30] <shanon> Burning from the file browser works but no blanking
[03:31] <son> one last time, does ANYONE want to play a network game of Gnibbles?
[03:31] <LinuxJones> shanon, graveman should auto-detect your burner it has an auto-detector upon first startup
[03:31] <shanon> LinuxJones: hmmmm. I will have a look at it thanks
[03:31] <LinuxJones> son, I guess ur out of luck :)
[03:32] <LinuxJones> heh
[03:33] <^shaka> why does my mouse moves up and down on my screen?
[03:34] <sproingie> argh.  why does flash not install on 32 bit firefox...
[03:35] <LinuxJones> sproingie, your running a 64 machine ?
[03:36] <peterk> <-SUPER NEWBIE to linux, i installed ubuntu as my intro. Anything i should know?
[03:36] <sproingie> LinuxJones: yes
[03:36] <LinuxJones> peterk, www.ubuntuguide.org is a good place to start :)
[03:36] <LinuxJones> sproingie, afaik flash doesn't work on 64 bit architectures
[03:37] <toresbe> LinuxJones: does too
[03:37] <sproingie> LinuxJones: i just mentioned this was a 32 bit firefox
[03:37] <shanon> graveman doesn't detect the device. Gnomebaker works nicely though. Thanks
[03:38] <LinuxJones> sproingie, Are you runnign in 64 bit or 32 bit mode ?
[03:38] <LinuxJones> shanon, I am glad something works for you !!
[03:40] <kbrooks> i want to uwe user mode linux
[03:40] <kbrooks> use*
[03:40] <kbrooks> on ubuntu
[03:40] <kbrooks> a howto for this?
[03:41] <decaf> kbrooks: you don't need anything special
[03:41] <peterk> thanks LJ.
[03:41] <LinuxJones> peterk, what are you trying to send me ?
[03:41] <kbrooks> decaf, i know, but when i try to install user-mode-linux, it simply won't work
[03:41] <LinuxJones> peterk, I don't accept dcc from anybody
[03:42] <peterk> not sure what i'm doing
[03:42] <peterk> :)
[03:42] <LinuxJones> heh :)
[03:42] <kbrooks> dcc is teh sux0r
[03:42] <bigfoot1> how can i find a channel in the IRC world based on region/country?
[03:42] <LinuxJones> kbrooks, what's user mode Linux again ?
[03:43] <ictyl> how do i adjust the gamma for a radeon 7500?
[03:43] <kbrooks> LinuxJones, google it.....
[03:43] <LinuxJones> kbrooks, it's like SE Linux or something ?
[03:43] <vinux> woot I installed ubuntu again for practice hehe. I tried a server install but couldn't get the x window system running. My plan was to start off with very little and build up to what I wanted. I didn't know enough though
[03:44] <LinuxJones> vinux, apt-get insta;; ubuntu-desktop
[03:44] <LinuxJones> vinux, err apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:44] <vinux> LinuxJones, that's it? lol ack just one line and I could have done it
[03:44] <kbrooks> LinuxJones, no
[03:45] <LinuxJones> kbrooks, ?
[03:45] <kbrooks> LinuxJones, i said google it
[03:45] <LinuxJones> kbrooks, well it's not that important to me, was just asking for a refresher :(
[03:46] <kbrooks> LinuxJones, well
[03:46] <kbrooks> h/o
[03:46] <vinux> LinuxJones, so you think if I did server install then installed ubuntu-desktop would make any difference? or would it just be the same as now
[03:46] <LinuxJones> kbrooks, never mind
[03:46] <kbrooks> http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/
[03:46] <greenhornz> Question: Apache2, PHP, PHP_Postgres, Postgresql installed - keep getting the following error: Fatal error: Call to undefined function: pg_pconnect()
[03:46] <LinuxJones> vinux, ubuntu-desktop will install gnome and all of xorg
[03:48] <kbrooks> LinuxJones,
[03:48] <kbrooks> http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/
[03:48] <ivanox> what is that site with alot of gnome apps?
[03:49] <LinuxJones> ivanox, do you have the universe repositories enabled ?
[03:49] <linux_dude> can someone help me?
[03:49] <ivanox> I'm not talking about repos, there is a site where u can browse alot of apps for gnome
[03:49] <ivanox> but I forgot the url
[03:50] <linux_dude> can someone please better define this for me: You may want your current user to be the PHP pages administrator. To do so, edit the Apache configuration file :
[03:50] <linux_dude> $ sudo vim /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[03:50] <linux_dude> Search both the strings starting by "User" and "Group", and change the names by the current username and groupname you are using. Then you'll need to restart Apache."
[03:51] <vinux> I really love my ubuntu! It works! It's fast, stable and easy to use. I like it better then even Slackware!
[03:52] <ivanox> linux_dude, you should edit your apache2.conf and add your current user somewhere in there
[03:52] <gek> how do i find out my system resources (ie memory used, disk and network read/writes, etc)... i know uptime tells me average load but it seems pretty meaningless
[03:53] <linux_dude> thank u, ivanox
[03:53] <gek> ubuntu is lightyears ahead of slackware
[03:54] <gek> at least in terms of usablility
[03:55] <toresbe> hahaha
[03:55] <toresbe> I'd say ubuntu is lightyears ahead of slackware, period
[03:56] <gek> anyone here use skype? i just downloaded it, i dont have a mic yet, but what i want to know is do i need to by a certain brand of mic, and when i get it is there anything i need to do to configure it?
[03:57] <anto9us> gek: a decent quality headset might be the best option for telephony applications
[03:57] <neza> sup everyone
[03:57] <LinuxJones> gek, search the wiki there is a skype howto
[03:57] <gek> cool
[03:57] <omniscient> could someone please point me somewhere i can find information on creating apt-gettable (.deb in ubuntu aswell?) packages from a source tarball?
[03:58] <neza> anyone know what program to use to emulate ISO movie files as dvds
[03:58] <omniscient> neza i think you dont need 3rd party
[03:58] <neza> raeally
[03:58] <omniscient> yes. but thats all the info i can give you, as i've forgotten what command to use :)
[03:59] <neza> lol, ok thanx
[03:59] <omniscient> ill tell you though search for "linux equivelents" on google
[03:59] <omniscient> find this page that is a table of windows -> linux programs
[03:59] <neza> thanks for the info
[03:59] <omniscient> and they have an equivelent for daemon tools
[03:59] <omniscient> which is the command you can use :)
[04:00] <omniscient> so now can you help me? heh.
[04:00] <char1iecha1k> can anyone help with smp?
[04:00] <neza> i would really like to help you out, but im kind of new to this and im not that advanced
[04:01] <omniscient> hehe it's all good mate :)
[04:01] <omniscient> i was half joking :P
[04:01] <neza> k
[04:01] <delilah> hmm
[04:01] <gek> hmm... the skype howto dosnt say anything about how to configure a mic, where in /dev it will be (it mentions dsp, but thats the audio out isnt it?)
[04:01] <neza> have you ver tried any video editting tools in linux
[04:01] <anto9us> omniscient: are you sure your package isn't already in the repositories?
[04:01] <omniscient> anto9us, nah, it isn't
[04:02] <delilah> hmm
[04:02] <LinuxJones> gek, is your sound playback working ok ?
[04:02] <omniscient> delilah, you're a thinker aren't ya
[04:03] <char1iecha1k> i get this message nr_cpus limit of 1 reached processor ignored
[04:03] <omniscient> anto9us, even if i can just make a deb package or something, so i can distribute the package that way
[04:03] <char1iecha1k> presumablby imrunning on 1 cpu at the mo how do i enable the other one
[04:03] <LinuxJones> char1iecha1k, your running the smp kernel ?
[04:04] <omniscient> I'll just keep googling, you never know your luck :)
[04:04] <char1iecha1k> LinuxJones i didnt do anything special on install
[04:04] <char1iecha1k> so probably not
[04:04] <anto9us> omniscient: I think the main package creation stuff goes on here https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MOTU
[04:04] <char1iecha1k> LinuxJones is the smp kernel on the install cd?
[04:04] <LinuxJones> char1iecha1k, are you running amd or intel ?
[04:04] <drworm> hey all
[04:05] <char1iecha1k> intel piii i think
[04:05] <omniscient> thanks alot anto9us.. looks good!
[04:05] <drworm> can't get root in hoary
[04:05] <drworm> su or sudo doesn't work
[04:05] <char1iecha1k> LinuxJones yup they are p3 450
[04:05] <r0bnyc> can I enable the lines of hoary universe ? and how about the hoary-security universe lines ? i just got my ubuntu hoary cds and installed it. how about how do I update to breezy ?
[04:05] <drworm> they ask for a password i never created
[04:06] <LinuxJones> char1iecha1k, ok open a terminal; type sudo -s (enter your user password); apt-get update && apt-get install linux-image-686-smp
[04:06] <neza> when is breezy set to be realised
[04:06] <nalioth> r0bnyc: breezy will give you plenty to do (esp when the X goes away)
[04:06] <neza> released?
[04:06] <gek> linuxjones, yeah sound playback works fine
[04:06] <LinuxJones> neza, October
[04:06] <cthulfuego> neza: October or november I think
[04:06] <neza> cool
[04:06] <r0bnyc> nalioth: thanks how about my other questions?
[04:06] <char1iecha1k> LinuxJones ah thats going to be a problem the
[04:06] <cthulfuego> neza: it's still too unstable to run as a normal desktop atm.
[04:07] <nalioth> neza: october this year
[04:07] <greenhornz> Question: how do i get the basic C compiler?
[04:07] <neza> yeah, i figureed
[04:07] <anto9us> r0bby: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:07] <char1iecha1k> LinuxJones ...oops... our dhcp has gone funny and i can only get this pc on at the mo
[04:07] <cthulfuego> !breezy is <reply> Breezy is due for release in October 2005
[04:07] <ubotu> okay, cthulfuego
[04:07] <nalioth> !Restricted
[04:07] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:07] <LinuxJones> gek, ok right click the voleume control an click Open Volume Control, then hit the capture tab and turn up the mic volume
[04:07] <nalioth> r0bnyc: what ubotu said
[04:07] <gek> green: search for gcc in synaptic
[04:07] <greenhornz> Question: how do i get the basic C compiler?
[04:07] <drworm> actually, the sudo -s worked!
[04:07] <drworm> thanks
[04:07] <neza> but at least thr current version of ubuntu is better than running the stable version of debian
[04:07] <greenhornz> gekL thx
[04:07] <cthulfuego> !info linux-image-686-smp
[04:07] <ubotu> linux-image-686-smp: (Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.10-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[04:08] <r0bnyc> nalioth: enableing hoary universe and hoary-security universe lines?
[04:08] <gek> or apt-get install gcc
[04:08] <LinuxJones> char1iecha1k, once you get that package installed all you have to do is re-boot and you will have smp support
[04:08] <anto9us> ^r0bnyc: sorry
[04:08] <char1iecha1k> LinuxJones can i reinstall ubuntu with the correct smp kernel? then later i can sort out my dhcp
[04:08] <abood> hi all, guys i need some support with the vsftpd
[04:08] <nalioth> r0bnyc: once you are in the file, you can univers the world
[04:08] <r0bnyc> anto9us: what u mean
[04:08] <cthulfuego> char1iecha1k: You don't have to reinstall. Just update the kernel.
[04:08] <abood> any body have an experince with it ?
[04:08] <nalioth> r0bnyc: recommend you multiverse it, too
[04:08] <LinuxJones> char1iecha1k, you don't have to re-install
[04:08] <r0bnyc> nalioth: universe the world ?
[04:08] <char1iecha1k> LinuxJones i cant get on the net with the pc in question
[04:08] <nalioth> r0bnyc: add the universe and multiverse repos to your lines
[04:09] <r0bnyc> ah nalioth thanks
[04:09] <nalioth> r0bnyc: and enjoy many more toyz
[04:09] <cthulfuego> char1iecha1k: You can download the kernel deb and copy it across via a cdrw or something.
[04:09] <r0bnyc> nalioth: :-D
[04:09] <LinuxJones> char1iecha1k, is it a wireless network card or something or jsut dhcp problems with the server ?
[04:09] <r0bnyc> nalioth: and security ?
[04:10] <abood> heloooow any one would help with ftp ?
[04:10] <abood> :)
[04:10] <char1iecha1k> LinuxJones long story the wireless is working wired isnt, and i havent installed any wireless deices in the ubuntu box
[04:10] <nalioth> r0bnyc: security lines need not be touched
[04:10] <abood> Seveas, r u there ?
[04:10] <r0bnyc> nalioth: why not , hoary is released already
[04:10] <nalioth> r0bnyc: ok, i meant, don't add universe and multiverse to the security lines
[04:11] <r0bnyc> nalioth: i knw :)
[04:11] <LinuxJones> char1iecha1k, ok jsut checking, you can take cthulfuego's suffestion and download in windows or whatever and install from a burned cd (which would be easiest)
[04:11] <char1iecha1k> LinuxJones can you show me where to get it please
[04:11] <LinuxJones> okg I am getting loaded an typing is lame sorry char1iecha1k :(
[04:11] <LinuxJones> *omg
[04:11] <r0bnyc> all of u runnin hoary? not breezy?
[04:12] <nalioth> r0bnyc: breezy is broken
[04:12] <nalioth> r0bnyc: breezy is for "extreme OS enthusiasts"
[04:12] <nalioth> r0bnyc: breezy is far from "ready for every day use"
[04:12] <r0bnyc> thanks
[04:12] <char1iecha1k> cthulfuego can you show me where to get the smp kernel please
[04:13] <r0bnyc> hoary is debian-testing?
[04:13] <cthulfuego> !breezy is also If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it.
[04:13] <ubotu> okay, cthulfuego
[04:13] <r0bnyc> i was wondering if any ubuntu is debian-sid
[04:13] <cthulfuego> subterrific: ,just a moment
[04:13] <cthulfuego> char1iecha1k: Just a momenty
[04:13] <cthulfuego> r0bnyc: Kinda, yes
[04:13] <abood> guys, how can i restrict on an ftp account that he just be in his home dir ?, i mean i dont want him to surf others folders ?
[04:13] <cthulfuego> abood: check the ftp server docs for chroot
[04:13] <|QuaD-> hey, i am having a problem with mplayer. when I go to maximize it, the window maximizes, but the video inside stays the same, any suggestions?
[04:14] <Cooner750> so; does this look ok? http://www.riccbhard.bravehost.com/gparted2.gif
[04:15] <abood> cthulfuego, from where can i get more info at this subject ?
[04:15] <cthulfuego> char1iecha1k: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp_2.6.10-34.2_i386.deb
[04:16] <cthulfuego> abood: google is your friend. google ftp+chroot
[04:16] <char1iecha1k> cthulfuego thanks
[04:16] <cthulfuego> !depends linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp
[04:16] <ubotu> linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp: depends on initrd-tools (>= 0.1.75ubuntu2), coreutils | fileutils (>= 4.0), module-init-tools (>= 0.9.13)
[04:17] <Cooner750> anybody?
[04:17] <char1iecha1k> cthulfuego ok so do i use the same apt get command as before of what?
[04:19] <tuxrox> hello
[04:19] <LinuxJones> char1iecha1k, >> http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp_2.6.10-34_i386.deb
[04:19] <tuxrox> can anyone help me
[04:20] <evilgod69> lol, what wit?
[04:20] <char1iecha1k> LinuxJones no i have it on cd now
[04:20] <evilgod69> does anyone know where i can change the logon screen's resolution? ubuntu 5.04
[04:21] <tuxrox> can anyone help me with apache and php?
[04:22] <tuxrox> i installed apache and php. but when i try phpinfo.php, it attempts to download it
[04:22] <tuxrox> what is wrong?
[04:23] <abarbaccia> tuxrox, restart apache
[04:24] <tuxrox> abarbaccia, what is the command for that?
[04:24] <anto9us> evilgod69: you need to edit your xorg.conf and in the default depth make sure the resolution you want for gdm is the leftmost
[04:24] <cyphase> hey everyone
[04:25] <evilgod69> anto9us: thanks
[04:25] <tuxrox> what is the command to restart apache?
[04:25] <refuze2looze> how can i get keys on my multimedia keyboard to control beep-media-player? i tried to add commands like "beep-media-player -t" and assign it to 0xa2 which is my play button in configuration editor but that didn't work
[04:26] <cyphase> tuxrox, apache2 -k restart
[04:26] <cyphase> as rot
[04:26] <cyphase> root*
[04:26] <msg43> hi
[04:26] <cyphase> hey
[04:27] <tuxrox> msg43, hey
[04:27] <msg43> tuxrox, what a strange name :-D
[04:27] <tuxrox> lol
[04:27] <tuxrox> i  need some help
[04:27] <tuxrox> i installed apache and php. but when i try phpinfo.php, it attempts to download it
[04:28] <msg43> tuxrox, what browser are you using
[04:28] <cyphase> tuxrox, that happened to me as well
[04:28] <tuxrox> the fox of corse
[04:28] <cyphase> i just completely uninstalled everything, then reinstalled it
[04:28] <tuxrox> really? what did u do to fix it?
[04:29] <msg43> tuxrox, did you edit http.conf I think that the file?
[04:29] <cyphase> tuxrox, it's weird, but..
[04:29] <tuxrox> yea...?
[04:29] <cyphase> try installing php before apache, and accept when it says php needs apache
[04:29] <cyphase> 1 sec, brb
[04:29] <tuxrox> really?
[04:29] <tuxrox> ok
[04:29] <tuxrox> i will try that i guess
[04:30] <bionic> Can anyone help so i can play sound from more than one sound source at the same time? My card is probed with alsa, but uses oss emulation i think.
[04:31] <anto9us> tuxrox: see here http://dan.drydog.com/apache2php.html and go down to bullet point 11
[04:31] <tuxrox> ok
[04:34] <msg43> matjan_, thank you
[04:34] <tuxrox> msg43, would u be able to do vnc?
[04:34] <msg43> tuxrox, why?
[04:35] <tuxrox> maybe you can help me
[04:35] <tuxrox> cause u really seem to know what your doing
[04:35] <tuxrox> i have read a lot of guides today
[04:35] <tuxrox> earlier today
[04:36] <msg43> tuxrox, what is so hard about removing a #?
[04:36] <char1iecha1k> LinuxJones cthulfuego: i have tried apt-get install /media/cdrom0/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp_2.6.10-34_i386.deb
[04:36] <tuxrox> msg43, i did that
[04:36] <tuxrox> i am 99% sure that's right what i did
[04:37] <char1iecha1k> LinuxJones cthulfuego: it was a guess and it said it couldnt find package
[04:37] <LinuxJones> char1iecha1k, in Linux ?
[04:37] <char1iecha1k> yup
[04:37] <msg43> tuxrox, sound me the file
[04:37] <msg43> *send
[04:37] <tuxrox> msg43, which file?
[04:38] <msg43> tuxrox, http.conf
[04:38] <msg43> through xchat
[04:38] <tuxrox> how? copy and paster?
[04:38] <LinuxJones> char1iecha1k, you have to cd to /media/cdrom then type dpkg -i file.deb
[04:38] <tuxrox> **paste
[04:38] <tuxrox> msg43, how should i send it?
[04:38] <Cooner750> How can I mount back my external HD? It's location before it was unmounted was "/dev/sda"
[04:39] <char1iecha1k> LinuxJones what command does that do
[04:39] <LinuxJones> char1iecha1k, you have to cd to /media/cdrom then type sudo dpkg -i file.deb (enter your user password when prompted)
[04:39] <char1iecha1k> LinuxJones ok let me try
[04:39] <msg43> tuxrox, right click on my username in xchat, dircet connecto to client->send file
[04:39] <tuxrox> ahh, i see
[04:39] <tuxrox> i just have to locate the file
[04:39] <tuxrox> any idea where it is?
[04:40] <tuxrox> never mind
[04:40] <LinuxJones> char1iecha1k, in linux once you put the cd in it should automatically mount the drive in /media/cdrom, you change to the directory using the cd command, then enter the above command it will then install the .deb for you
[04:40] <msg43> how can you edit it if you don't know were it is
[04:40] <tuxrox> i do
[04:40] <tuxrox> i just forgpt
[04:40] <tuxrox> *forgot
[04:40] <Cooner750> ....
[04:41] <char1iecha1k> LinuxJones well it has started to do something!!!
[04:41] <Cooner750> mount external usb HD? How-to?
[04:41] <Quest-Master> Hindi and Urdu Ubuntu users-- #ubuntu-hi and #ubuntu-ur :)
[04:41] <LinuxJones> char1iecha1k, once it's done installing all you have to do is re-boot
[04:41] <tuxrox> does anyone know where the apache configuration file is??
[04:41] <greenhornz> QUESTION: my resolution is stuck at 640x480, how do i fix this?
[04:42] <tuxrox> httpd.conf??
[04:42] <msg43> tuxrox, you lied to me
[04:42] <tuxrox> msg43, no i didnt
[04:42] <bigfoot1> hello, i need libmp3lame.so for audacity. where can i get this file+
[04:42] <bigfoot1> ?
[04:42] <msg43> tuxrox, locate is your friend
[04:42] <msg43> bigfoot1, apt-get
[04:42] <reka> greenhornz: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:42] <tuxrox> i thoguht i knew where it was,
[04:42] <tuxrox> i was wrong
[04:42] <greenhornz> reka thanks
[04:42] <aw259> Hello. How's everyone this evening?
[04:43] <bigfoot1> msg43, i couldn't find the file in synaptic. do you still think i can apt-get it?
[04:43] <msg43> tuxrox, locate http.conf
[04:43] <tuxrox> msg43, i will do locate...
[04:43] <Cooner750> anybody???
[04:43] <msg43> bigfoot1, one sec
[04:43] <reka> aw259: afternoon. :-)
[04:43] <msg43> bigfoot1, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame
[04:43] <msg43> sudo apt-get install lame
[04:43] <tuxrox> msg43 i found it
[04:43] <msg43> bigfoot1, http://ubuntuguide.org/
[04:43] <bigfoot1> aw259, good morning/afternoon/evening/night/day.
[04:43] <aw259> Is anyone familiar with MBR and dual boot issues? I'm trying to set up Windows XP and Ubuntu dualboot, each with their own hard drive, but I'm getting some odd errors.
[04:44] <bigfoot1> msg43, i already have gstreamer on my pc.
[04:44] <aw259> bigfoot1: Good point. I forgot about the time zones. ;)
[04:44] <msg43> you need those two things though
[04:44] <bigfoot1> so i wonder if libmp3lame.so is on my computer
[04:44] <msg43> bigfoot1, no
[04:44] <msg43> you need lame
[04:44] <bigfoot1> audacity says that i just need libmp3lame.so
[04:44] <Cooner750> :/
[04:44] <msg43> and then do gstreamer-lame to
[04:44] <msg43> it like I addon i think
[04:44] <char1iecha1k> LinuxJones it came up with errors, should i reboot and try again?
[04:44] <msg43> bigfoot1, you'll get it rust me
[04:45] <bigfoot1> msg43, but i only want to getlibmp3lame.soand nothing else.
[04:45] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[04:45] <tuxrox> msg43, please accept
[04:45] <tuxrox> . . . .
[04:45] <aw259> Windows XP is set up on a SATA drive (/dev/sda) and Ubuntu is set up on /dev/hdc. If I select the SATA drive from BIOS boot, I get WinXP. If I select the other, I get Ubuntu (and GRUB's bootloader).
[04:45] <msg43> tuxrox, I did it your gay firewall
[04:45] <msg43> tuxrox, upload it to my ftp
[04:45] <LinuxJones> char1iecha1k, what errors ?
[04:45] <aw259> The bootloader can boot Ubuntu (on the same drive) without issue. When it tries to boot Windows XP, however, I get LILO errors?
[04:46] <tuxrox> msg43, i got rid of the girewall
[04:46] <bigfoot1> msg43, i just checked my synaptic. I found out that i already have gstreamer0.8-lame
[04:46] <hacim> how does one upgrade from the first ubuntu to the latest stable?
[04:46] <msg43> bigfoot1, then install lame
[04:46] <aw259> I've already run FIXMBR and FIXBOOT on the Windows XP drive. It boots up fine if I just instruct the BIOS to boot from the SATA drive. I just can't get the GRUB bootloader to transfer control to the SATA drive without this odd LILO "L 40 40 40.." error.
[04:46] <bigfoot1> how, msg43 ?
[04:46] <msg43> sudo apt-get install lame
[04:47] <abood> guys, whats the name of the application that support the pc status in the Desktop Background ?
[04:47] <hacim> !upgrade from warty to hoary?
[04:47] <ubotu> hacim: I haven't a clue
[04:47] <bigfoot1> msg43, oh, i found lame.
[04:47] <hacim> !upgrade
[04:47] <ubotu> methinks upgrade is "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:47] <bigfoot1> after i install lame, then what?
[04:47] <bigfoot1> msg43, ?
[04:47] <msg43> tuxrox, it your router
[04:47] <hacim> is it really that easy then?
[04:47] <msg43> bigfoot1, do you know about updatedb?
[04:47] <bigfoot1> norm_, msg43 .
[04:47] <bigfoot1> norm_, msg43
[04:47] <bigfoot1> msg43, no.
[04:47] <bigfoot1> sorry, norm.
[04:48] <reka> hacim: yes. :-)
[04:48] <aw259> Does anyone know how to see what type of bootloaders are on each partition and each drive's MBR?
[04:48] <Cooner750> is anybody paying attention to my questions?
[04:48] <msg43> updatedb is a command to update a search date base
[04:48] <tuxrox> msg43, I am using gFTP for the transer, is that ok??
[04:48] <msg43> so run 'sudo updatedb'
[04:48] <msg43> tuxrox, it fine
[04:48] <neza> can anyone recomend a good ftp program
[04:48] <tuxrox> ok
[04:48] <msg43> tuxrox, I use it also
[04:48] <bigfoot1> msg43, i have just installed lame. what's the next step to get audacity saving to mp3?
[04:48] <Cooner750> :-/
[04:48] <msg43> bigfoot1, close audicity
[04:48] <msg43> re open it and try
[04:49] <msg43> neza, gftp
[04:49] <tuxrox> msg43, the file is on your ftp
[04:49] <tuxrox> check it out
[04:49] <tuxrox> thank you sooo much, msg43, i really appreciate all of this
[04:49] <Cooner750> Does anybody here know how to mount a external USB FAT32 harddisk!?
[04:49] <xiaogil> I know that's it's possible to have viariables in a script for the terminal (like: for i in `seq 1 5`; do echo $i; done), but is it possible to have an array variable ?
[04:50] <bigfoot1> msg43, it still asks for the location of libmp3lame.so
[04:50] <punkrockguy318> How can I send a mail through the command line?
[04:50] <msg43> bigfoot1, do you know how to search files in ubuntu?
[04:50] <msg43> tuxrox, you sent me the right file???
[04:50] <vinux> punkrockguy318, I used to use pine
[04:50] <bigfoot1> yes, i think i do msg43 .
[04:50] <tuxrox> yes
[04:50] <msg43> punkrockguy318, you run arch?
[04:50] <bigfoot1> are you saying that libmp3lame.so is now on my pc?
[04:50] <gek> yeah, pine is good
[04:50] <neza> thanx
[04:51] <punkrockguy318> vinux, pine is nice, but i'm looking for something that I can do in a script
[04:51] <punkrockguy318> msg43, i dual arch and ubuntu
[04:51] <tuxrox> msg43, would u like me to use Gaim??
[04:51] <msg43> tuxrox, OH MY
[04:51] <tuxrox> msg43, HOW?
[04:51] <tuxrox> WHAT
[04:51] <msg43> punkrockguy318,  you make arch packages right
[04:51] <msg43> tuxrox, you config file is fucked up
[04:51] <punkrockguy318> msg43, yeah
[04:51] <vinux> punkrockguy318, hmm can't help you there
[04:51] <tuxrox> msg43, how so???
[04:51] <Cooner750> ................
[04:51] <msg43> tuxrox, I'll pm you
[04:51] <msg43> punkrockguy318, ok
[04:52] <msg43> thought so
[04:52] <reka> Cooner750: searched the forums yet?
[04:52] <tuxrox> msg43, pm??
[04:52] <aw259> Does anyone know how to see what type of bootloaders are on each partition and each drive's MBR?
[04:52] <punkrockguy318> yeah, i used to make a lot, but i haven't had time to keep up with any of them lately
[04:52] <msg43> tuxrox, you'll see
[04:52] <tuxrox> ohkay
[04:52] <DonL> Cooner750,  try this. Plug in your USB while live, and wait for a minute. It should show an icon on the desktop
[04:55] <abood> guys which is better gkrellm or gdesklets ?
[04:55] <msg43> abood, never heard of gkrellm
[04:55] <aw259> Anyone? :) Just want to know how to find out what is the bootloader on a partition.
[04:56] <msg43> abood, try adekslets
[04:56] <bigfoot1> msg43, i found two files with similar names in my /usr/lib/. one is libmp3lame.so.0.0.0 (309kb), the other is libmp3lame.so.0 (19 bytes, link)
[04:56] <DonL> Good night folks
[04:56] <greenhornz> Question: whats the command to remove a file with contents inside?
[04:56] <msg43> bigfoot1, probably  libmp3lame.so.0
[04:56] <msg43> try it
[04:57] <bigfoot1> greenhornz, is there any other way to remove files? 8)
[04:57] <abood> msg43, let me check it :) i need one that is more stable n not heavy n support nice themes :)
[04:57] <reka> greenhornz: do you mean a directory?
[04:57] <tuxrox> msg43.... check the pm winodw
[04:57] <gek> rm file
[04:57] <char1iecha1k> LinuxJones something along the lines of ..short read in buffer copy... thanks for you help i need to go, is it possible to install ubuntu with smp from the start?
[04:57] <greenhornz> yes directory
[04:57] <greenhornz> sorry
[04:58] <reka> abood: gkrellm rocks
[04:58] <reka> greenhornz: rm -rf
[04:58] <reka> greenhornz: man rm
[04:58] <bionic> Can anyone help so i can play sound from more than one sound source at the same time? My card is probed with alsa, but uses oss emulation i think.
[04:58] <greenhornz> thx
[04:58] <reka> greenhornz: rm --help
[04:58] <gek> info rm
[04:58] <bob_> zounds,  I need some advice about sounds!!  Nosound from SB Audigy,  vol set>0...  driver required?  where do I set up the sound card?  tia
[04:59] <reka> :-)
[04:59] <gek> >:)
[04:59] <abood> reka, does it support for xmms themes ?  i will take with ur advise  :)
[04:59] <reka> abood: isn't it a cpu monitor? why would it use xmms themes?
[05:00] <reka> for those with SOUND problems and running gnome: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[05:00] <bob_> thanks for the tip
[05:00] <abood> reka, just for fun :)
[05:00] <bigfoot1> how can i change the quality of an mp3 file (you know the bitrate, etc)?
[05:01] <reka> bigfoot1: you'd have to re-rip it to get a higher quality.
[05:01] <cthulfuego> bigfoot1: Get the original and re-encode it at a different quality setting.
[05:01] <bigfoot1> cthulfuego, reka, i want to make the filesize of an mp3 smaller.
[05:01] <gek> well there is a gkrellm xmms plugin
[05:02] <cthulfuego> bigfoot1: You will lose a LOT of quality doing it from an already-encoded mp3.
[05:02] <cthulfuego> bigfoot1: You can expand it to wav, then recode it to mp3 at a lower setting.
[05:02] <bigfoot1> really, cthulfuego ?
[05:02] <nJess> its been a while since i used irssi
[05:02] <nJess> how do i connect to multiple servers?
[05:02] <cthulfuego> bigfoot1: Yes
[05:02] <cthulfuego> bigfoot1: You go from lossy to even more lossy, as opposed to from original to lossy.
[05:02] <bionic> reka, is that for my problem too?
[05:03] <bigfoot1> cthulfuego, so if i start with ogg, is this fine?
[05:03] <gek> will expanding to wav and then re-encoding actually be any different then reincoding from a mp3? you still are working with a file thats had loss
[05:03] <cthulfuego> bigfoot1: No, oggs are lossy too, same problem.
[05:03] <reka> bionic: yep.  i know for a fact that should work.
[05:03] <cthulfuego> gek: No, I just don't know of apps that recode an mp3
[05:04] <bigfoot1> so what programs allow you to choose the quality of an mp3 ?
[05:04] <cthulfuego> nJess: '/help server' should see you sorted.
[05:04] <chetang_> hello, every one!
[05:04] <bigfoot1> hello, chetang
[05:04] <cthulfuego> bigfoot1: Any encoder
[05:04] <bigfoot1> like?
[05:04] <cthulfuego> bigfoot1: lame?
[05:04] <bigfoot1> I have soundrecorder, audacity.
[05:04] <bigfoot1> does lame have gui, cthulfuego
[05:04] <bigfoot1> ?
[05:05] <cthulfuego> bigfoot1: Not normally, no.
[05:05] <gek> saving your original encodings to flac, so you can play around with different settings for the mp3s might be a good idea
[05:05] <msg43> does ubuntu use php5 or php4?
[05:05] <kbrooks> msg43, you choose. why are you here anyways?
[05:06] <cthulfuego> !info php5 hoary
[05:06] <cthulfuego> php4
[05:06] <bigfoot1> is there a gui mp3 encoder?
[05:06] <kbrooks> cthulfuego, we dont have dpkg
[05:06] <kbrooks> cthulfuego, do  not assume
[05:06] <cthulfuego> !info php4
[05:06] <ubotu> php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 4:4.3.10-10ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB
[05:06] <cthulfuego> kbrooks: we have ubotu
[05:06] <kbrooks> !info php5
[05:07] <msg43> kbrooks, cause I"m helping a friend
[05:07] <msg43> with apache
[05:08] <msg43> kbrooks, which bring me to ask why are you here?
[05:08] <kbrooks> because i like ubuntu
[05:08] <cthulfuego> msg43: Install libapache2-mod-php4 and he should be ok.
[05:08] <kbrooks> thats why
[05:08] <gek> ubuntu is good. i like mine with mustard
[05:08] <kbrooks> gek, ew
[05:08] <msg43> cthulfuego, it should autoadd what it need inthe apache2 http.conf
[05:09] <msg43> lol
[05:09] <uJess> cthulfuego: thanks
[05:09] <uJess> irssi works
[05:09] <uJess> :)
[05:09] <kbrooks> cthulfuego, ew. eclairs
[05:09] <gek> mmm eclairs
[05:09] <gek> i wish i could bake
[05:09] <kbrooks> ew ew ew ew ew!
[05:09] <cthulfuego> msg43: No, it works a bit differently on apache2. Try 'sudo a2enmod php4'
[05:09] <kbrooks> EW!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:09] <reka> kbrooks: so i take it you like eclaires?
[05:10] <cthulfuego> gek: eclairs are surprisingly easy
[05:10] <kbrooks> reka, NO. I hate them
[05:10] <msg43> cthulfuego, ok
[05:10] <kbrooks> tried one and spat it out
[05:10] <nickthedick> ?ati?
[05:10] <kbrooks> the momENT
[05:10] <kbrooks> moment
[05:11] <noob> hi everyone... Someone know how can add more radio stations to my Rhythmbox ?
[05:11] <gek> i cant even bake muffins from premixed stuff without ruining them :(
[05:11] <cthulfuego> nickthedick: fglrx is installed by default, afaik.
[05:11] <cthulfuego> gek: Blame your oven.
[05:11] <gek> yeah, that or the timing
[05:11] <cthulfuego> gek: Mine is normally 20C below what the temperature is set to.
[05:12] <nickthedick> but there is no acceleration, ati controlpanel says "mesagl"
[05:12] <reka> nickthedick: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowTo
[05:12] <cthulfuego> nickthedick: is X set up to *use* fglrx?
[05:12] <kbrooks> nesa is teh sux0r
[05:12] <reka> ah, crap
[05:12] <kbrooks> mesa
[05:12] <gek> i rarely use my real oven, the convection toaster oven does everything i need
[05:12] <nickthedick> cthulfuego: I have it in Xorg.conf
[05:12] <reka> nickthedick: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowTo
[05:13] <nickthedick> reka: I'll take a look
[05:13] <cthulfuego> nickthedick: Ok, then I'm out of ideas.
[05:13] <reka> nickthedick: you need to load the module
[05:13] <gek> a chicken will fit in mine
[05:14] <reka> nickthedick: third time lucky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto
[05:14] <msg43> cthulfuego, thanks
[05:15] <gek> noob, click music->add new internet radio station
[05:15] <msg43> cthulfuego, now only if supertux asked
[05:15] <msg43> I mean tuxrox
[05:15] <nickthedick> reka: if I used the ati installer program instead of apt-get, can I still make it work?
[05:15] <REds> yah
[05:15] <noob> Thanks gek
[05:15] <REds> of course nickthedick
[05:15] <bluefoxicy> bluefox@icebox:~/misc/paxutil/pax-utils-20050609$ ./ssp_exploit
[05:15] <bluefoxicy> You got OWNED SO BAD!!!
[05:15] <tuxrox> hey msg43
[05:15] <msg43> tuxrox, thanks cthulfuego
[05:15] <msg43> he gave me the command
[05:16] <reka> nickthedick: the ati.com driver?  iirc you need to do something with your kernel for that.  search the forums
[05:16] <tuxrox> why msg43?
[05:16] <msg43> I asked which you should have done he helped
[05:16] <tuxrox> oh
[05:16] <msg43> cthulfuego msg43: No, it works a bit differently on apache2. Try 'sudo a2enmod php4'
[05:16] <tuxrox> well thank you to everyone who has ever helped me
[05:16] <tuxrox> lol
[05:16] <msg43> it php4 but it will til later
[05:16] <tuxrox> what?
[05:16] <msg43> tuxrox, nothin
[05:16] <tuxrox> msg43, what did u say?
[05:16] <tuxrox> ok
[05:17] <tuxrox> so, do i just install phpMyAdmin now, msg43?
[05:17] <msg43> tell me one thign
[05:17] <tuxrox> ok
[05:17] <msg43> why are yousetting up a a server?
[05:17] <tuxrox> what
[05:17] <tuxrox> i just want to see if i can get it all to work
[05:17] <msg43> tuxrox, you must be stupid do i not speak english
[05:17] <synd_> can i run Lsongs on ubuntu?
[05:17] <noob> But another question about music stations... Where can I get linux radio URLs ?
[05:17] <msg43> tuxrox, it to much time
[05:17] <tuxrox> how so?
[05:18] <synd_> noob: apt-get install streamtuner
[05:18] <msg43> tuxrox, cause you need to know install mysql which you don't kno how to do and that a whole bunch more work to do
[05:18] <noob> cool synd... thanks
[05:18] <tuxrox> i installed MySQL
[05:19] <msg43> tuxrox, but didn't set it up
[05:19] <msg43> well whatever I'm going to bed
[05:19] <tuxrox> ok
[05:19] <msg43> or leaving this channel to mysteriuos one
[05:19] <tuxrox> thank you for php
[05:19] <tuxrox> by the way, i posted on Neowin
[05:19] <msg43> tuxrox, that pm type thing
[05:19] <Tweek> tuxrox, do you know of totse?
[05:20] <msg43> no one cares if you posted on neowin or not
[05:20] <tuxrox> you did
[05:20] <msg43> tuxrox, PM!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:20] <tuxrox> okokok
[05:20] <msg43> got I have leave before I flip
[05:21] <synd_> anyone know if i can get Lsongs running on ubuntu?
[05:21] <squinn> lsongs?
[05:21] <tuxrox> synd_ what is Lsongs?
[05:22] <squinn> from linspire?
[05:22] <cthulfuego> !factoids is at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:22] <ubotu> okay, cthulfuego
[05:22] <synd_> yup.
[05:22] <synd_> closest thing to itunes on linux
[05:22] <tuxrox> oh, i see
[05:22] <squinn> synd, something linspire did was rename a lot of basic linux apps to make them seem more like windows
[05:22] <squinn> lsongs has a real linux name
[05:22] <squinn> and i'm looking it up now
[05:23] <synd_> squinn: im aware of that. but i cant find the "real" name for Lsongs
[05:23] <Razor-X> anyone here use joe?
[05:23] <squinn> synd, okay. it looks like a kde program
[05:23] <squinn> maybe amarok
[05:24] <isai> hi
[05:24] <isai> how do I make an audio cd?
[05:25] <synd_> squinn: you mean you looked at a screenshot of lsongs and connected it to KDE?
[05:25] <noob> oh-no... system say I have not the streamtuner package... It's not at Synaptic too... how can i get it ?
[05:25] <isai> Tried dumping .wav file in nautilus cd burning app. It burned but doesn't play in CD player (only shows up on computer CDROM drive).
[05:25] <synd_> noob: ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[05:25] <noob> thankx
[05:25] <squinn> synd, not necessarily
[05:25] <squinn> i looked at a sshot yes
[05:25] <squinn> but it looks like amarok
[05:26] <cthulfuego> isai: It'll mean installing some additional software, but try k3b.
[05:26] <synd_> sure, all linspire looks like kde, imo
[05:26] <Nard> Guys how can i get .avi files to play
[05:26] <Nard> in xmms
[05:26] <isai> cthulfuego: I have to install KDE just to make a CD?
[05:27] <Nard> or any media player for that matter
[05:27] <squinn> isai, use gnome-toaster or gnome-bkaer
[05:27] <synd_> gnomebacker
[05:27] <synd_> baker*
[05:27] <squinn> thanks
[05:27] <squinn> Nard, apt-get install win32codecs
[05:27] <squinn> and then open the file in Mplayer [Media Player] 
[05:27] <bob2> Nard: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:27] <bob2> (this is in the faq)
[05:27] <squinn> yeah, that's better
[05:27] <squinn> okay, synd_ i've made a decision
[05:28] <Nard> i did the win32 codecs
[05:28] <squinn> it's Rhythmbox
[05:28] <Nard> and it still won't play
[05:28] <Nard> even in mplayer
[05:28] <squinn> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:28] <squinn> Read that.
[05:28] <squinn> That's better.
[05:28] <isai> squinn: Im installing gtoaster now (hope it works)...
[05:28] <Nard> ok
[05:28] <Nard> i'll read
[05:28] <synd_> squinn: but rhythmbox doesnt support iTunes sharing.
[05:28] <synd_> squinn: Lsongs does
[05:28] <cthulfuego> isai: Not KDE, just k3b and associated libs.
[05:29] <squinn> synd_, linspire adds hacks to little programs like that
[05:29] <squinn> rhythmbox does not to my knowledge support dell dj thing, lsongs does
[05:29] <synd_> well id love that little hack
[05:29] <squinn> you CAN install lsongs via source on ubuntu
[05:29] <squinn> but..it's a while to do
[05:30] <squinn> http://www.linspire.com/download_package_source.php?filename=lsongs_0.2.28-0.0.0.50.linspire0.1.tar.gz& is source, synd_
[05:31] <synd_> thanks!
[05:31] <squinn> but
[05:31] <squinn> but but but
[05:31] <isai> Wow! Gtoaster has copyright from 2001! This looks like something I used in Suse 6.3 in 1999!
[05:31] <squinn> it's requires deps
[05:31] <squinn> which could be hard-to-get
[05:31] <isai> anyways, I'll try K3B
[05:31] <Razor-X> wow, nobody here uses joe?
[05:32] <newbie101> can anyone help me??
[05:32] <Razor-X> shoot, newbie101
[05:32] <bob2> joe's a fairly obscure editor
[05:32] <newbie101> i am trying to delete a file, but it tells me that i don't have permission to
[05:32] <newbie101> how can i delete that file?
[05:33] <bob2> newbie101: what file?
[05:33] <Razor-X> bob2: yeah, but, I want someone to use it to write some introductory documentation for it, I have a friend who uses joe, but she's rarely on
[05:33] <Razor-X> newbie101: sudo rm file
[05:33] <newbie101> ah, ok
[05:33] <newbie101> thank you
[05:33] <synd> squinn: i cant get the source
[05:34] <synd> nothing comes up with that url
[05:34] <synd> exciting
[05:35] <Xenguy> very impressive distro - everything 'just works'
[05:35] <squinn> hm weird
[05:35] <bionic> Can anyone help so i can play sound from more than one sound source at the same time? I've done the things on http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly but that didnt fix it. Thanks.
[05:35] <gorilla_> Xenguy, stealth?
[05:35] <Xenguy> gorilla_: subverting my admins (who want me to run only that other OS)
[05:35] <squinn> http://www.linspire.com/download_package_source.php?filename=lsongs_0.2.28-0.0.0.50.linspire0.1.tar.gz&url=http://10.0.0.84:80/cnrPackageServer.php?fileLocation=/linspire/pkgsrv/pool-src%2Fl%2Flsongs/lsongs_0.2.28-0.0.0.50.linspire0.1.tar.gz, synd
[05:35] <squinn> try that
[05:36] <gorilla_> Xenguy, ohhhh... I like that idea :-)
[05:36] <Xenguy> gorilla_: now I'm waiting for the network police to show up ;-)
[05:36] <synd> squinn: still no dice
[05:36] <squinn> hm works for me
[05:37] <squinn> http://www.linspire.com/lindows_products_details.php?package_name=lsongs
[05:37] <squinn> go to specifications and then source code link
[05:37] <gorilla_> Xenguy, but that's what dual boot is for :-)
[05:37] <Xenguy> gorilla_: that's exactly what I arranged; a dual boot
[05:38] <greenhornz> Chmod +x isnt giving me access, what am i doing wrong?
[05:38] <newbie101> >how do u login as 'root' ??
[05:38] <synd> squinn: something downloads but theres nothing in it?
[05:39] <newbie101> i tried logging in as root on the login screen, but it says root can't login that way
[05:39] <Xenguy> oh yeah, feedback - 'sudo' this and that is very annoying :P
[05:39] <newbie101> i tried logging in as root on the login screen, but it says root can't login that way
[05:39] <newbie101> how does root login?
[05:40] <Xenguy> newbie101: read the web site
[05:40] <Burgundavia> newbie101, if you truly are a newbie, then use sudo
[05:40] <Burgundavia> so will save yourself a lot of trouble
[05:40] <gorilla_> newbie101, you generally don't. root loggins are a bad idea.
[05:40] <Burgundavia> plus all the graphical system utils use sudo by default
[05:40] <newbie101> oh, ok
[05:40] <newbie101> but i am trying to move files to a folder where it says i don't have permission
[05:41] <newbie101> what should i do?
[05:41] <Xenguy> gorilla_: no, root is just something that Ubu has decided to avoid =)
[05:41] <Xenguy> newbie101: read the web site
[05:41] <Xenguy> =)
[05:41] <Burgundavia> newbie101, use sudo, but where are you trying to move stuff?
[05:41] <newbie101> what website?
[05:41] <greenhornz> Chmod +x isnt giving me access, what am i doing wrong?
[05:41] <siimo> anyone know how to log automatically into xfce without the need of gdm/kdm
[05:41] <newbie101> Burgundavia, to the apache www folder
[05:41] <Xenguy> newbie101: jesus christ - ubuntulinux.org
[05:41] <newbie101> oh
[05:42] <newbie101> well, as you can tell, i am new at this
[05:42] <newbie101> it's hard when your new
[05:42] <newbie101> exit
[05:42] <Xenguy> newbie101: don't worry, just read :-)
[05:43] <Razor-X> i'm thinking of ditching vi, only because it's too QWERTYish
[05:43] <sproingie> siimo: you can always use xdm
[05:43] <sproingie> Razor-X: surely someone has dvorak keybindings for vi
[05:43] <siimo> sproingie, i dont think it supports auto-login
[05:44] <sproingie> siimo: ubuntu in general does not
[05:44] <Razor-X> sproingie: i'm looking for it
[05:44] <siimo> sproingie, yes it does with kdm/gdm
[05:44] <Razor-X> no can do, it seems....
[05:44] <sproingie> siimo: huh .. did not know that
[05:45] <Razor-X> "Why use Dvorak? QWERTY's been used for 100 years, it _must_ be good!"
[05:45] <Razor-X> "Err wait, Mr. Computer"
[05:45] <Razor-X> "Honey! I think we need to move!"
[05:45] <Xenguy> Razor-X: vim trumps dvorak :-)
[05:46] <Davey> QWERTY is *specifically* laid out to slow you down
[05:46] <Razor-X> "My father lived here. My father's father lived here. My father's father's father's father's father's father's father lived here. All the fathers in between lived here. I think we should live in this rotting semi-solid structure too!"
[05:46] <Xenguy> *plonk*
[05:46] <Razor-X> "Err, hold on Mr. Computer"
[05:46] <sproingie> Davey: myth myth myth myth
[05:46] <Davey> actually, more to make sure you pressed keys on opposite sides of the typewriters hammers
[05:46] <Davey> sproingie: no, its not.
[05:47] <gorilla_> sproingie, if you are using haory go to System->Administration->Login Screen Setup menu Auto login is set there
[05:47] <Razor-X> "Damn Mosquiter, it's time you stop bringing your bug friend in the computer room ;)"
[05:47] <tony> sup room?
[05:47] <Razor-X> yeah, it's not a myth, QWERTY was made to slow you down
[05:47] <sproingie> Davey: dvorak is designed to make you alternate hands.  it would have been even friendlier to manuals than qwerty was
[05:47] <Razor-X> the original typewriters would jam if you typed too fast
[05:47] <Cynetix> Hey, can anyone help with XP dual boot?
[05:47] <sproingie> Razor-X: yet no one can EVER produce any documented evidence to that fact
[05:47] <Xenguy> Cynetix: ?
[05:47] <Razor-X> Cynetix: shoot
[05:47] <Razor-X> sproingie: you can, in fact
[05:48] <Davey> sproingie: the problem is where the hammers where
[05:48] <sproingie> Razor-X: anything not written by mister dvorak, who fabricated a great many things
[05:48] <Davey> though why they didn't just move the hammers is beyond me
[05:48] <Razor-X> you can read tons of documents made by Sholes
[05:48] <sproingie> you can't just move the hammers
[05:48] <Cynetix> I installed and it went fine but when it said it was rebooting into Ubuntu, it never did. No menu or anything.
[05:48] <sproingie> the keys have to press down on the hammer lever, there's nowhere to move those levers
[05:48] <Razor-X> and, you can also observe the hammers of the original typewriter
[05:48] <Xenguy> Cynetix: did you install GRUB to the MBR?
[05:48] <sproingie> dvorak would have been even friendlier to manual typewriters
[05:49] <sproingie> keyboard layouts were *patented* in the old days
[05:49] <Davey> sproingie: oh, yeah, thats true :)
[05:49] <Cynetix> I chose that and it showed I had XP pro as well so I thought it was successful
[05:49] <sproingie> qwerty either wasn't patented, or it was a patent that stuck
[05:49] <Razor-X> sproingie: it was made on the manual typewriter
[05:49] <Razor-X> Dvorak was made before the age of computers
[05:49] <Cynetix> I thought it had installed into the MBR on my second drive but that's not the case either
[05:49] <Cooner750> ok back
[05:49] <sproingie> dvorak was made in the age of electric typewriters actually
[05:49] <Xenguy> Cynetix: it's better to *not* choose the MBR (i.e. say 'no')
[05:49] <tony> anyone have a minute to assist with how to view another computers hard drive on my wireless network?
[05:49] <Razor-X> in fact, the US government almost switched, but, WWII broke out
[05:49] <Cynetix> xenguy: then what do I chose?
[05:49] <Razor-X> Xenguy: and why would that be
[05:50] <Davey> sproingie: the problem with Dvorak is not that its not better, its that people don't want to change
[05:50] <Razor-X> Cynetix: no, install it to the MBR
[05:50] <gorilla_> sproingie, yes it was  a patent (AFAIK) but it sticks because of momentum.
[05:50] <Razor-X> I have a WinXP double-boot on this machine, right here
[05:50] <Cynetix> I did :) but it's not coming up that way.
[05:50] <sproingie> Davey: the problem is largely with its boosters, actually
[05:50] <Cynetix> I verified via the shell from the CD that the install is there.
[05:50] <Xenguy> Cynetix: you say 'no' to MBR, then you install GRUB to the 'linux' partition (the partition that has '/boot' on it)
[05:50] <Razor-X> sproingie: are you telling me QWERTY actually makes more sense than Dvorak?
[05:50] <sproingie> Davey: it's like the old vhs/betamax canards that come out every single time
[05:50] <Razor-X> Xenguy: why would you do that?
[05:51] <Razor-X> Cynetix: install to MBR, the GRUB menu auto-adds an entry for Windows XP
[05:51] <Xenguy> Cynetix: I'll try to find the URL I found for dual-booting...
[05:51] <sproingie> Razor-X: i'm saying that it's a pretty poor thing to hold up as a badge of some sort
[05:51] <Cynetix> Razor-X: that's what I thought but no go. Hmm.
[05:51] <Xenguy> Cynetix: I just did it tonight (W2K) and it went fine
[05:51] <Razor-X> sproingie: i'm not holding it up as a badge, I think people should get out of their advanced lethargy and switch
[05:51] <Xenguy> Cynetix: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[05:51] <sproingie> Razor-X: and using terms like "lethargy" are precisely the problem
[05:52] <Razor-X> Cynetix: does the Linux partition exist?
[05:52] <sproingie> it's a keyboard layout.  retain some perspective.
[05:52] <Cynetix> Xenguy: thanks for URL :)
[05:52] <Cynetix> Razor-X: Yes. It's there.
[05:52] <Xenguy> Cynetix: yw :-)
[05:52] <Razor-X> Cynetix: then, try install a different boot-manager
[05:53] <tony> How do i get access to my xp box on my network?
[05:53] <Cynetix> Ok. I'll give it a go. Thanks for the help folks :)
[05:53] <Xenguy> Cynetix: make sure you use a paritioning prog to make d0ze partition bootable after installing Ubu (if you go that route)
[05:53] <Razor-X> I use GRUB no problem, why reccomend not installing to MBR?
[05:53] <sproingie> keyboards in general kind of suck as input devices go.  why in fact need there be a key for each letter?  make rare letters a combination of 2 or 3 keys and have nothing BUT the home row
[05:53] <Cooner750> tony: click Applications; then Run Application
[05:53] <Cooner750> and then type "smb://comptername"
[05:54] <Cooner750> where computername is the network name of the computer
[05:54] <Razor-X> sproingie: already been done, in fact
[05:54] <tony> k
[05:54] <Razor-X> but, those keyboards seem outrageously expensive, they're corded keyboards
[05:54] <sproingie> Razor-X: yet you don't see proponents of those keyboards badgering everyone
[05:54] <tony> hmm
[05:54] <scott> my hard drive on this T40 thinkpad feels really warm under ubuntu..I think that it's not being spun down when not being used. any ideas how to enable that?
[05:54] <Razor-X> sproingie: of course, because, they don't have much proponent other than 'space saving'
[05:54] <Razor-X> well, what about the multitude of Firefox forerunners?
[05:55] <Razor-X> you look almost as bad as the last era's IE proponers
[05:55] <sproingie> actually i imagine the rsi of a kb where you never leave the home row could potentially be worse
[05:55] <Cooner750> tony; did it work?
[05:55] <Razor-X> "OMG!!!! Firefox man!! Firefox!!"
[05:55] <tony> trying to remember the name of my computer
[05:55] <tony> hehe
[05:55] <tony> does the entire drive need to be shared for me to see it?
[05:55] <Razor-X> sproingie: it probably would be. I switched to Dvorak because of speed, and because my hands started hurting
[05:55] <Razor-X> odd, because i'm pretty young
[05:55] <sproingie> my hands actually get variety in their motion.  tho i overuse the middle and index fingers too much
[05:55] <chillywilly> Ubuntu rocks my socks
[05:55] <Cooner750> tony; you're accesing it over a network; correct?
[05:55] <Razor-X> but, mainly, that's why I switched mice, my hands really started giving me hell on a mouse
[05:56] <gorilla_> tony, nope... sharing enitre drives is a bad idea...
[05:56] <sproingie> i never type a single key with my little finger, and very rarely with the ring fingers
[05:56] <Razor-X> to a point where, after a long typing session, I _had_ to use a keyboard for my mousing
[05:56] <tony> yes... i have a wireless network and its xp
[05:56] <Razor-X> sproingie: ahhh, the way I used to type ;)
[05:56] <tony> have all my mp3's on that driver in one folder
[05:56] <Razor-X> the thing was, hand pains were actually caused by my mice, I didn't know that
[05:56] <sproingie> Razor-X: mine's caused by emacs
[05:56] <Razor-X> my wrist couldn't take the strain of pushing a physical device with the wrist's momentum
[05:56] <nadjyla> hello :)
[05:57] <Razor-X> sproingie: well, i'm much more familiar with vi, and emacs does feel bloated
[05:57] <sproingie> i tried a trackball for a while once.  my hands never hurt worse than when i used it
[05:57] <Cooner750> go to the XP machine and share the folder that has those mp3s in it. Also; while you're there right click on "My Computer" and click the "Computer Name" tab to find the name of the computer
[05:57] <gorilla_> tony: that should just work, unless you have some sort of permission issue.
[05:57] <scott> anyone know how to get the hard drive to stop spinning when not in use? mine's burning a hole in my pants
[05:57] <Razor-X> i'll look more for some vi bindings
[05:57] <sproingie> now i just have a good mouse and i grip it very lightly and my hands never hurt
[05:57] <tony> k... brb
[05:57] <Razor-X> sproingie: heh, it seems people's wrists are made differently
[05:57] <Davey> I have carpal tunnel and RSI in both wrists/hands, but I find that just by having my hands elevated properly, it rarely bothers me now
[05:57] <Razor-X> trackball's for me (not the middle style, I use a thumb trackball) have worked wonders
[05:58] <Razor-X> Davey: the scare part, i'm 15
[05:58] <Razor-X> I don't _want_ RSI at 15
[05:58] <Davey> Razor-X: I got it at about 16, I'm 21 now ;)
[05:58] <sproingie> the thumb trackball was pretty nice.  kensington's "80's arcade game" style trackballs are the worst
[05:58] <kobs> Hi.. I'm installing.. and my DHCP server gave out incorrect info, my install is currently at 50% testing network repository, how can i bypass this?
[05:58] <Razor-X> Davey: yes, that's why I don't want RSI
[05:58] <wang> somebody knows how to install realplayer?
[05:58] <gorilla_> Davey, that is a a scary concept..
[05:58] <Razor-X> that, and my parents will do a huge "I told ja so" thing (no, they're not Spanish)
[05:58] <wang> i had instaleed but it doesnt work
[05:58] <gorilla_> wang: that is on the ubuntu wiki..
[05:59] <sproingie> i could probably get used to dvorak for typing english, but it would drive me bats doing ctrl key combinations like copy and paste
[05:59] <wang> thanks, what is the add?
[05:59] <Razor-X> sproingie: I don't want to be totally ostracized from a mouse, that's why I tried a thumb version
[05:59] <Cooner750> just a quick question; does ubuntu detect hardware automatcally while running (or is there a command for that too!?)
[05:59] <Razor-X> sproingie: the advantage for me was, I used QWERTY at 90 WPM with a spatial layout
[05:59] <sproingie> Cooner750: hotpluggable hardware like usb stuff, yes
[05:59] <tony> it wont work
[06:00] <Razor-X> I'ld center my fingers around a position, and stem off from there, knowing approximately, in my mind, how far each key was from the other, and keeping an index of the key I was on
[06:00] <nalioth_wrkn> Razor-X: i like the big-ball-on-left-side trackballs from logitech
[06:00] <Cooner750> so if  it disconnected my corded usb mouse and plugged a wireless mouse (which works in ubuntu); would it recognize it?
[06:00] <gorilla_> wang, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ and browse from there.
[06:00] <sproingie> Razor-X: never been 90wpm.  i would just be killed in a secretarial type of job unless i had aggressive autocomplete
[06:00] <Razor-X> nalioth_wrkn: that's the exact one I use
[06:00] <Cooner750> tony; what error does the linux computer give
[06:00] <Razor-X> Cooner750: I believe so
[06:00] <Razor-X> sproingie: 130 and pround ;)
[06:00] <tony> the folder contents could not be displayed
[06:01] <kobs> This must be a bug.. if network settings are incorrect, the install seems to hang at testing network repository..and i have no way of getting out of this.. this really sucks, i have to restart the isntallation?
[06:01] <Razor-X> I also keep my trackball slightly angled to the left, it seems to feel more natural
[06:01] <Cooner750> make sure the computer name is typed correctly; it is case sensitive I believe
[06:01] <tony> couldnt display all the contents of "Windoes Network: nvtb main"
[06:01] <Razor-X> kobs: I belive so :(
[06:01] <wang> why i have this msg in the synaptic ftp://ubuntujava.yimports.com/source/Release: PASS failed, server said: Login incorrect.
[06:01] <wang> ??
[06:01] <kobs> That's pretty  bad
[06:01] <sproingie> Razor-X: i write code.  most of my code is something like "if req<alt-space>.par<alt-space>('max<alt-space') < MAX_H<alt-space> ...
[06:01] <kobs> that should be fixed...
[06:02] <tony> damn i got it
[06:02] <Razor-X> sproingie: and I code as well ;)
[06:02] <Cooner750> hmm.. is it just me or does smb not work 90% of the time?
[06:02] <tony> under places
[06:02] <wang> how do i get the pass?
[06:02] <sproingie> Razor-X: i could really use an autocomplete single key, but there just aint any placed handily
[06:02] <kobs> Nevermind, it finally went on to the next step, after about 20 minutes
[06:02] <Cooner750> tony; did you get it working?
[06:02] <tony> went to places
[06:02] <Razor-X> sproingie: write your own
[06:02] <gorilla_> wang: particulary section 10 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:02] <tony> network
[06:02] <tony> is there a way to shortcut that location?
[06:02] <wang> gorilla_: thanks!!!
[06:03] <GNULinuxer> has anyone faced this weird problem with 2.6.11 kernels? the mouse pointer moves extremely slowly ?
[06:03] <Cooner750> tony; I believe you can drag the location icon to the desktop and it should make a icon for it
[06:03] <sproingie> Razor-X: well sure, but i can't see any key where it would be useful.  except maybe for tapping ctrl, but X doesn't have a concept of modifiers-as-keystrokes like windows has with the win key
[06:03] <sproingie> and unfortunately ONLY the win key
[06:03] <wang> why i have this msg in the synaptic ftp://ubuntujava.yimports.com/source/Release: PASS failed, server said: Login incorrect.
[06:03] <wang> ?
[06:03] <Cooner750> Or; get the address of that location and right-click on desktop and "create launcher"
[06:04] <tony> got it
[06:04] <scott> anyone know how to make my hard drive rest when it's not in use? it's super hot
[06:04] <tony> awesome... this shit is gettin easier and easier
[06:04] <Cooner750> tony; glad you got it working :)
[06:04] <tony> hey scott...
[06:04] <Cooner750> samba (SMB) hardly ever works for me
[06:04] <tony> i have that same problem
[06:04] <Cooner750> Since i'm running a livecd right now I have no HD spin issues... it must be quite annoying
[06:05] <Jimbob> samba works fine if it's configured properly (which is the tricky part)
[06:05] <chillywilly> fix it
[06:05] <nalioth_wrkn> wang: where did you get the URL for that ftp site?
[06:05] <tony> i have a dell laptop and i cant even put it on my lap
[06:05] <tony> cuz its so hot
[06:06] <wang> from somewhere i am not sure
[06:06] <gorilla_> tony, excellent work!! Unix gets easier as you learn that there are more than one way to do it :-)
[06:06] <scott> tony, mine's on my lap right now and it's burning my you know what
[06:06] <wang> i will erase it but is the add to get the java
[06:06] <nalioth> wang: from somewhere would come the user/pass
[06:07] <tony> my peeter's on fire!! hehe
[06:07] <wang> i had hundret of ways
[06:07] <wang> thanks
[06:07] <nalioth> you guys are heading for sterility
[06:07] <tony> hahaha
[06:07] <tony> that might be a good thing
[06:07] <Cooner750> wouldn't the hd constantly running cause a big heat issue in a desktop?
[06:07] <Cooner750> and/or kill the drive quicker?
[06:08] <amir__> Hey. in the Ubuntu faq they say you can apt-get install sun-j2re1.5, but i don't see such a package when i try it (yes, added universe and multiverse)
[06:08] <wang> it is supoused that is installed but something happend that it doesnt work
[06:08] <nalioth> Cooner750: depending on software installed, the HD may spin down during periods of non use
[06:08] <gorilla_> Cooner750, not if the case is well designed...
[06:08] <nalioth> !Java
[06:08] <ubotu> somebody said java was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[06:08] <Cooner750> I know the cd drive sure spins down when not in use. :p
[06:08] <amir__> thanks
[06:08] <nalioth> amir__: what ubotu said
[06:09] <Cooner750> beacause it freezes when launching a program; because it's a livecd
[06:09] <Ahab> I'm having an install problem.  I am trying to install hoary on an older laptop and it gets to the installing packages part and then hangs saying something about a 'bootstrap' problem and it possibly being bad media.  The thing is I just used the same cd to install ubuntu on a different box.  Any suggestions on what the problem might be?  Thanks.
[06:10] <Madpilot> evening, all. when Syn puts a little gold star next to a package which isn't installed, what does that mean?
[06:10] <Cooner750> this is cool. It's the first distro of linux i've used that actually detects usb devices when I plug them in...
[06:10] <wang> thanks
[06:10] <nalioth> Ahab: could be your 'older' cdrom drive just isnt reading properly anymore
[06:10] <tony> anyone know if winamp has a ubuntu version?
[06:10] <Madpilot> ack, nvr mind. just found Syn's Icon Legend...
[06:10] <nalioth> Madpilot: means theres and upgrade for it available
[06:11] <nalioth> Madpilot: darn! my effort for naught
[06:11] <Razor-X> nooo!!!!!!!
[06:11] <gorilla_> tony, try xmms instead. XMMS is a close winamp clone.
[06:11] <Razor-X> I could feel it
[06:11] <Cooner750> brb
[06:11] <Razor-X> emacs just undid some vi muscle memory
[06:11] <tony> website is xmms.com?
[06:11] <Razor-X> all is lost!
[06:11] <nalioth> tony: try beep media player, it's a modern fork of xmms
[06:11] <nalioth> Razor-X: get some pie
[06:12] <gorilla_> tony: don't know what the web site is... sorry.
[06:12] <Razor-X> nalioth: I might have to.... I might have to
[06:12] <Davey> hmm, seems like Nautilus will no longer start for me /
[06:12] <Razor-X> nalioth: also, I have a slightly more updated version of the guide up
[06:12] <Razor-X> can someone try and complete the basic commands section, it's getting boring -_-
[06:13] <nalioth> Razor-X: do you know the /notice command?
[06:13] <Razor-X> and there are so many basic commands and techniques, I keep forgetting I know them all
[06:13] <Razor-X> nalioth: yes....
[06:13] <neighborlee> anyone know whats up with some icons now showing up on panel after you add it from Menu ( after having installed say gftp in synaptic) and is there a fix  for this in general or is it app specific ???
[06:13] <nalioth> Razor-X: you have not collaborated with ME <sniff>
[06:13] <Drexler> i dont know if any of you can help me, but i just tried using the Ubuntu Live CD, and i got an xserver error, it said it could not detect screens
[06:13] <Ahab> well, I do know the drive still works, as it will read and boot other disks.  is there an alternate install method I could try.  other than cd?
[06:13] <Razor-X> nalioth: you want the LaTeX source?
[06:14] <Razor-X> because, if you do, i'll clean up some of my bad coding ;)
[06:14] <gorilla_> Razor-X, what command section??
[06:14] <Cooner750> ok back :)
[06:14] <nalioth> Ahab: try burning another ubuntu cd, but more slowly
[06:14] <Razor-X> (like random comment-outs on commands that didn't work)
[06:14] <nalioth> gorilla_: Razor-X is thinkin he's an author
[06:14] <Razor-X> Cooner750: a guide to introduce the beginner to the command-line
[06:14] <nalioth> gorilla_: but i think Razor-X is more like a fred
[06:15] <Ahab> nalioth, ok, thanks.
[06:15] <Razor-X> gorilla_: I am an author ;) I've written more than this piece of documentation, and not just computer-related stuff either
[06:15] <nalioth> Razor-X: you know where to  go to discuss these things
[06:15] <Drexler> can you guys help me out?
[06:15] <Razor-X> yeahp yeahp
[06:15] <nalioth> Razor-X: you're not a 'fred'?
[06:15] <neighborlee> Drexler, sure sounds like it could not detect your monitor ...how far in boot are you getting...
[06:15] <Cooner750> I was wondering; why doesnt sound work in flash?
[06:15] <Drexler> neighbor, im getting through everything until it tries to load the GUI
[06:15] <r0d> Cooner750,  are you using kde?
[06:16] <Cooner750> nope. Gnome
[06:16] <Tweek> how do i load floppy drive modules :|
[06:16] <Cooner750> although I know that I cannot play mp3s
[06:17] <nalioth> !Restricted
[06:17] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:17] <nalioth> Cooner750: see waht ubotu said
[06:17] <Cooner750> I get the "render the stream" error; but I wont worry about that until I actually make a backup of the external HD, resize and partition it
[06:17] <gorilla_> nalioth, I wish i as known that bot command :-)
[06:18] <gorilla_> s/as/had/
[06:18] <r0d> Cooner750,  dont know. I'm sure you checked your alsa module is up. use amixer to see if anythings mute
[06:18] <Ucup> alloha
[06:19] <nalioth> gorilla_: ubotu is full of weird sh....tuff
[06:19] <Tweek> anyone know the name of floppy drive modules :|?
[06:19] <synd_> nalioth: so are you
[06:19] <synd_> : >
[06:19] <tony> damnt
[06:20] <tony> how do i get to the desktop when i am in the root in a terminal
[06:20] <Davey> anyone had it to where Nautilus will no longer start?
[06:20] <Tweek> tony, cd Desktop
[06:21] <tony> no such file or directory
[06:21] <Tweek> capital
[06:21] <gorilla_> Tweek, try floppy :-)
[06:21] <Tweek> make sure
[06:21] <nalioth> synd_: most of the time, my sh...tuff don't stink
[06:21] <Tweek> ok gorilla
[06:21] <tony> root@BONJOUR:~ #
[06:21] <tony> thats where i am
[06:21] <gorilla_> Tweek, it was the only driver that I have loaded that makes sense...
[06:21] <Tweek> tony
[06:21] <Tweek> not root terminal
[06:22] <tony> oh
[06:22] <tony> sorry
[06:22] <tony> what did i do wrong?
[06:22] <Tweek> "terminal" is different from "root terminal"
[06:22] <francisco> hola
[06:22] <Cooner750> brb
[06:22] <francisco> hola
[06:22] <tony> how do i get to just the terminal
[06:22] <Tweek> Gorilla_ it says no command found
[06:23] <thr1ce> instead of root terminal, just click terminal
[06:23] <francisco> se) released! http://www.ubuntulinux.org/504Released
[06:23] <tony> duh, im an idiot
[06:23] <gorilla_> Tweek, that's the name of the mopdule not the command.
[06:23] <thr1ce> modprobe the module
[06:23] <gorilla_> Tweek, try modprobe floppy
[06:23] <Tweek> ok :)
[06:24] <gorilla_> actually why do I have the floppy module loaded when there is no drive??
[06:25] <Jimbob> gorilla_, hotplug undoubtedly loaded it, you can remove it with "sudo rmmod floppy"
[06:25] <Jimbob> (why hotplug decided to load it is another matter, though)
[06:25] <Tweek> hmm
[06:25] <Tweek> after i loaded the module should i restart? :|
[06:26] <Madpilot> :) there are a few of us with floppy drives left, you know...
[06:26] <tony> gotta nother question
[06:26] <Tweek> well, it has my school reports on it
[06:26] <tony> installing bmp
[06:26] <Tweek> getting it working is vital
[06:26] <tony> and i have a couple issues
[06:26] <gorilla_> Tweek, no need... just load the module, and try testing again.
[06:26] <Tweek> i did
[06:26] <Tweek> no worky worky :(
[06:27] <gorilla_> Tweek, what does dmesg say... the last couple of lines.. dump it into #flood
[06:28] <Tweek> :\
[06:28] <tony> when i typed ./configure it ran but gave me an error
[06:28] <tony> no acceptable C compiler found in $path
[06:29] <gorilla_> Tweek: okay those lines are sata drives running off an nvidia IDE chipset... I'm stumped at this stage :-(
[06:29] <Tweek> :\
[06:29] <gorilla_> tony: have you installed gcc??
[06:29] <Tweek> i blame my motherboard. it has been nothing but trouble
[06:29] <tony> eeeeeekkk.... gcc, hmm
[06:29] <tony> i dont think so
[06:29] <tony> how many other things am i missin, hehee
[06:30] <quam> apparently there are versions of gcc installed, but some shit doesn't like using them :P
[06:30] <Tweek> get, build essentials
[06:30] <Tweek> and gcc :|
[06:31] <tony> gorilla: how do i install gcc/
[06:31] <squinn> tony, apt-get install build-essential
[06:32] <tony> done... is that all i need to do?
[06:34] <tony> configure: error: cannot find x11 headers/libraries
[06:34] <srbaker> is there a place where i can download the live/install cd image via http or ftp?
[06:34] <srbaker> or...  if i burn a cd image to a dvd, will it still boot?  are they compatible enough?
[06:35] <nalioth> srbaker: it will boot, you just waste a few gigabytes
[06:35] <srbaker> excellent.
[06:35] <srbaker> nalioth, i have a spindle of blank DVD+Rs, but no blank CDs
[06:35] <srbaker> thanks
[06:36] <nadjyla> bye
[06:36] <tony> configure: error: cannot find x11 headers/libraries """ anyone know whats this means??
[06:36] <ninwa> Does anybody know any software for Linux that can play .ra files? (iTunes Radio Streams)
[06:37] <nalioth> srbaker: there is an install dvd image, also if you can find it
[06:37] <ninwa> er
[06:37] <ninwa> I guess .ra is real audio, huh
[06:37] <ninwa> brainfart, but nevertheless
[06:37] <tony> i must have stumped ppl with that one
[06:38] <Ahab> doesn't helixplayer play .ra stuff, since it's all real?
[06:39] <srbaker> nalioth, only available via bittorrent
[06:39] <srbaker> and i don't have all night
[06:39] <nalioth> tony: search synaptic for xorg libs with -dev on the end
[06:39] <nalioth> srbaker: the install disk will get you goin (do you use prozilla?)
[06:41] <x_or> Can someone explain to me how to change options in the /etc/init.d scripts which are portable across new installs?  Meaning, I would rather not edit the files directly, but somehow have a global file which specifies options for them on an individual basis.
[06:41] <tony> nalioth: where is synaptic
[06:42] <bob2> x_or: either way, you have to edit the init.d script
[06:42] <nalioth> tony at a terminal, type "sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[06:42] <bob2> either to add your options or to make it support some other random file to store options in
[06:43] <tony> nalioth: hwo many other programs do we need to install
[06:43] <tony> said it was already installed
[06:43] <kbrooks> I need java
[06:43] <nalioth> tony: that depends on what you want to do
[06:43] <x_or> bob2:  Hmm, OK.  Yeah, see it looks like there is an attempt (I am looking in the icecast-server script) to read the env var OPTIONS first, and if it is blank then use defaults.  But, overriding this when I run it doesn't seem to work.
[06:43] <wang> buuu it doesnt work, it is installed but steal doesnt work
[06:43] <nalioth> !Java
[06:43] <ubotu> [java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[06:43] <kbrooks> someone help me
[06:43] <srbaker> nalioth, prozilla?
[06:43] <Cooner750> will mp3, etc... audio plugins actually be installed in the next release? saving a lot of headaches
[06:43] <bob2> x_or: er, presumably it sources /etc/default/icecast or something
[06:43] <tony> said i already had synaptic
[06:43] <x_or> Good idea.
[06:44] <bob2> Cooner750: has the legal situation changed?
[06:44] <wang> what about realplayer!!!!
[06:44] <nalioth> srbaker: prozilla is so voracious a downloader, it roX
[06:44] <bob2> wang: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:44] <wang> i had done everithing that wiki saids
[06:44] <wang> yes but steal doesnt work
[06:44] <Cooner750> I cannot get realplayer to install without ubuntu compleatly freezing :/
[06:44] <wang> i had donde the link
[06:44] <srbaker> well, i have 7 minutes left of my download
[06:44] <bob2> wang: what's your native language?
[06:45] <wang> spanish
[06:45] <bob2> Cooner750: freezing? how?  the whole system locks up?
[06:45] <bob2> wang: try #ubuntu-es.
[06:45] <Cooner750> It says "Extracting files for realplayer...." and it majorly slows down and I cannot do anything except use the power button
[06:46] <srbaker> where's the right place to find libdvdcss for ubuntu so i can watch dvd movies?
[06:46] <Cooner750> srbaker: http://ubutuguide.org
[06:46] <srbaker> thx
[06:46] <Cooner750> look for dvd player support
[06:46] <tony> whats next? i havent figured out what to do with this error
[06:47] <tony> configure: error: Cannot find X11 headers/libraries
[06:47] <wang> there is no one in the spanish channel jajaja i knew it, to lazy
[06:47] <bob2> tony: what are you trying to compile?
[06:47] <RobNyc> how do I install 2.6.11 kernel ?
[06:48] <tony> installing bmp
[06:48] <Amaranth> RobNyc: You don't
[06:48] <deltron> rob: apt-cache search linux-image
[06:48] <wang> please somebody can tell me how i get to work REALPLAYER!!!
[06:48] <deltron> hehe
[06:48] <RobNyc> Amaranth, why not
[06:48] <bob2> tony: why are you compiling it? it's in ubuntu already.
[06:48] <Amaranth> RobNyc: The 2.6.11 kernel in hoary isn't really 2.6.11, it's a snapshot of sometime after 2.6.10 and is known to break things horribly.
[06:49] <tony> bob2: where?
[06:49] <Cooner750> srbaker: I  screwed up the link. it's http://www.ubuntuguide.orh
[06:49] <Cooner750> org*
[06:49] <Cooner750> I hate laptop keyboards :/
[06:49] <RobNyc> Amaranth, i just experienced that lol
[06:49] <RobNyc> i reinstalled hoary cuz i had removed the others
[06:49] <RobNyc> and my keyboard ormouse, or everything would just crash
[06:49] <deltron> i'm trying to get hoary to work right with my laptop right now
[06:49] <deltron> can't get my touchpad working right
[06:49] <bob2> tony: in the universe repository
[06:49] <Amaranth> RobNyc: GNOME and the 2.6.11 package don't play nice, you get hard locks.
[06:50] <RobNyc> Amaranth, i saw it ;) thanks
[06:50] <X7C> anybody knows about LANs? i need some help
[06:50] <tony> sorry im new bob2, where is the universe repository
[06:50] <Cooner750> Will there ever be a version of Ubuntu that is small enough to fit on a flash disk? I can fit Slax 5 onto my 256MB usb jumpdrive with room to spare
[06:51] <nalioth> ubotu: Restricted
[06:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:51] <nalioth> tony what ubotu said
[06:51] <holycow> Cooner750, wtf are you talking about?
[06:51] <tony> what do you mean nalioth?
[06:51] <holycow> Cooner750, its debian for f's sake
[06:51] <nalioth> tony: ubotu is a bot that answers !questions
[06:52] <holycow> take out what you don't want until you get 256 megs
[06:52] <Cooner750> holycow; Slax is; well based on Slaxware
[06:52] <Cooner750> Slackware I mean
[06:52] <nalioth> tony: instead of me typing the same thing all the time
[06:52] <holycow> why they hell would anyone bother to do such a thing tho?
[06:52] <tony> !questions
[06:52] <ubotu> tony: I don't know
[06:52] <bob2> tony: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:52] <nalioth> tony: read what ubotu said aobut restricted
[06:52] <Cooner750> holycow; to make it portable
[06:52] <nalioth> or what bob2 said (he's not a bot)
[06:52] <Cooner750> As is I can take a usb flash disk to any of my computers and tell it to boot from USB
[06:52] <cthulfuego> bob2 is *so* a bot
[06:53] <bob2> cthulfuego: parser error; dunno what you're talking about
[06:53] <cthulfuego> Amaranth: The package info commands work again on ubotu.
[06:53] <tony> k, thanks
[06:53] <holycow> Cooner750, well just start apt-get removing packages and see if you can get it down to that
[06:53] <Amaranth> cthulfuego: Cool.
[06:54] <cthulfuego> !dstats breezy
[06:54] <holycow> then create an image offwhats left, theres a few tutorials out there on how to do that
[06:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on breezy... 16734 packages, 1546 maintainers, 31854 MB installed size, 10105 MB compressed size.
[06:54] <bob2> tony: no need to /msg me
[06:54] <Cooner750> hmm; good idea :). Then maybe I dont have to use the slow livecd (because of read speed) and I'll be able to save settings (flash disk is in FAT32 format)
[06:54] <Madpilot> bob2: I thought ubotu told you you were on crack if it couldn't answer a question?
[06:54] <deltron> lol
[06:54] <bob2> Madpilot: I think it depends on the way it's confused
[06:55] <holycow> Cooner750, maybe using a 500 meg flash drive is more reasonable tho if you wanta  desktop
[06:55] <tony> Start Synaptic by selecting: Computer -> System Configuration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[06:55] <tony> where is computer?
[06:55] <Cooner750> Places > Computer
[06:55] <Madpilot> bob2: guess so... of course, I was *trying* to confuse the poor thing at the time.. :)
[06:55] <nalioth> tony: top left corner
[06:55] <GNULinuxer> tony, that's wrong
[06:55] <tony> thank you
[06:55] <bob2> hah
[06:56] <bob2> tony: system -> admin -> package manager
[06:56] <Amaranth> tony: Wow, are you on warty? :) It's System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager in hoary.
[06:56] <GNULinuxer> tony, synaptic is system > admin > synaptic
[06:56] <bob2> doc team, hurry up and make things work for hoaryt!
[06:56] <cthulfuego> bob2: Anything wrong with the debian docs? ;-)
[06:56] <tony> i am dumb i guess
[06:56] <tony> but i found it
[06:57] <vHintswen> hello
[06:57] <paxon> Hurry and publish the first Ubuntu book.
[06:57] <vHintswen> finally someone who can help lol
[06:57] <vHintswen> i dunno how to install ubuntu
[06:57] <Madpilot> paxon: trouble with a Ubuntu book is that it'll be obselete too fast... 2 releases per year, etc...
[06:58] <bob2> vHintswen: you need to be way more specific
[06:58] <vHintswen> i burnt it to cd, put in cd drive and rebooted. it just loaded windows...
[06:58] <bob2> vHintswen: configure your bios to boot the cd
[06:58] <hornsby> morning :)
[06:58] <cthulfuego> vHintswen: Tell the computer to boot from CD.
[06:58] <paxon> Madpilot, true.
[06:58] <nalioth> vHintswen: does your bios support cd booting?
[06:58] <bob2> I wish ABC was more up to date with Dr Who
[06:58] <deltron> argh, i'm doing the expert install, and i think i found a bug, i fat-fingered the root pw and it won't let me re-input it
[06:58] <bob2> I wanna know who bad wolf is
[06:58] <vHintswen> yeah i not 100%shure how to but i did do something to make it load cd first or something, still didn't work
[06:58] <cthulfuego> bob2: muaha
[06:58] <Cooner750> nalioth; I think it might have to be quite old to not support cd booting :p
[06:58] <vHintswen> i'll go try again...
[06:58] <tony> bob2: ok im in the package manager
[06:58] <Cooner750> my 133Mhz can support CD booting...
[06:58] <tony> now what do i do
[06:59] <nalioth> Cooner750: ya never know what hardware is gonna pop up in here
[06:59] <Cooner750> true :p
[06:59] <bob2> tony: go to the repository manager
[06:59] <xed> okay, so this is probably a common question.. but I need help with ..hmm... not entirely sure what.. but I don't think the refresh rate on my system is workin out too well
[06:59] <tony> settings/repository... im there
[07:00] <xed> Can anyone link me to some place or help me out?
[07:00] <vHintswen> while bios thing lading u press delete right?
[07:00] <vHintswen> and which setting is it?
[07:00] <Cooner750> vHintswen: When you turn the computer on somewhere it will probably flash quickly something like "Press DEL" or Press "F2"
[07:00] <bob2> vHintswen: depends entirely on the bios
[07:00] <xed> http://google.com .. is not a good link to give me.
[07:00] <vHintswen> what's it normally?
[07:00] <Cooner750> usually Delete or F2
[07:00] <bob2> xed: it's complicated to fix, unfortunately
[07:01] <xed> ah poops
[07:01] <xed> how complicated, bob2?
[07:01] <vHintswen> yeah but what settings i gotta change
[07:01] <Cooner750> on most toshiba laptops it's ESC.
[07:01] <vHintswen> i already knew about delete :P
[07:01] <bob2> if you have to ask, "quitE"
[07:01] <Cooner750> You change the boot order
[07:01] <vHintswen> k...
[07:01] <xed> ...I have to ask quite?
[07:01] <xed> oh..
[07:01] <xed> I see its "quite hard"
[07:01] <nando> #PearPC
[07:01] <Cooner750> It will say like "1st. HD-0" "2. Floppy 1" "3rd. CD ROM
[07:02] <xed> who wants to help me?
[07:02] <Cooner750> just change it to something like "Floppy, CDROM, HD"
[07:02] <bob2> xed: probably just easier to file a bug
[07:02] <holycow> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/15/psycho_robot/  <-- must be running windows
[07:02] <tony> bob2: im in the repositories
[07:02] <vHintswen> CMOS Settings?
[07:02] <bob2> tony: cool
[07:02] <Cooner750> vHintswen: does it say anywhere what brand BIOS you have?
[07:02] <xed> bob2: what now?
[07:03] <tony> only one item in there
[07:03] <xed> bob2: what's .. easier to file a bug?
[07:03] <vHintswen> just a sec...
[07:03] <Cooner750> I may be able to get more specific instructions
[07:03] <bob2> nevermind
[07:03] <xed> hmm.. maybe I should be a little more detailed here
[07:03] <xed> I'm what the online community calls a noob when it comes to these matters.
[07:03] <Cooner750> vHintswen: It may say something like "Phoenx BIOS", etc...
[07:03] <xed> and by "these matters".. I'm ..talking about linux/ubuntu..
[07:03] <bob2> people don't say "noob"
[07:03] <rolt> new in linux
[07:04] <bob2> only people who think they are "noob"s use that term
[07:04] <tony> bob2: what do i do from the repository?
[07:04] <bob2> tony: don't know, i don't use synaptic
[07:04] <rolt> for the first time im linux friend
[07:04] <xed> bob2: people call me noobs all the time, at work, at home.. online, in hell, etc.
[07:04] <bob2> sure, as above
[07:04] <vHintswen> AMIBIOS SIMPLE SETUP UTILITY
[07:05] <tony> can anyone help me to install bmp
[07:05] <bob2> xed: anyway, what video chipset
[07:05] <vHintswen> American Megatrends
[07:05] <bob2> tony: blah, just edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly
[07:05] <bob2> tony: open a terminal
[07:05] <Cooner750> vHintswen; hold on; let me take a look at Google
[07:05] <bob2> tony: type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:05] <vHintswen> k
[07:05] <bob2> tony: read the intructions about universe
[07:05] <tony> bob2: in there
[07:06] <xed> bob2: Geforce2 MX 100 DDR/200 DDR
[07:06] <Madpilot> holycow: better robot story here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/4077698.stm  :)
[07:06] <Cooner750> vhintswen: Select option #2
[07:06] <bob2> xed: ouch
[07:06] <xed> ...don't hurt me!
[07:06] <Cooner750> "BIOS Features Setup"
[07:06] <bob2> xed: how aure are you that the refresh rate is wrong
[07:06] <vHintswen> yeah that's what i did b4, page up/down to change them...
[07:06] <xed> I'm using it on my pentium 2... I put the old card in there
[07:06] <vHintswen> brb
[07:06] <Cooner750> ok
[07:06] <xed> bob2: I'm not sure at all.
[07:07] <Cooner750> I found this helpful: http://www.buildorbuy.org/biosamiset.html
[07:07] <bob2> xed: ok then
[07:07] <holycow> Madpilot, ha!  that is much better than my robot story
[07:07] <xed> So.. yeah, I originally had it on my laptop.. but you know.. that.. wasn't going too well.
[07:07] <holycow> rofl
[07:07] <holycow> you must be british
[07:07] <Cooner750> vhintswen: hit F10 when you are done
[07:08] <holycow> oh look, another canuck
[07:08] <Madpilot> holycow: no, Canadian, actually. A friend sent me that URL, and I use the BBC website a lot anyway!
[07:09] <Cooner750> I found http://www.buildorbuy.org/biosamiset.html through google *confused*
[07:09] <vHintswen> why f10?
[07:09] <vHintswen> and i tried it, still just loads windows
[07:09] <Cooner750> to save settings & exit
[07:09] <Cooner750> even if you set CD drive 1st?
[07:09] <vHintswen> i tried with cd in both my cd drives...
[07:09] <xed> bob2: looking into it.. or no?
[07:09] <vHintswen> haven't tried that as first.,.. it had IDE-0 first or something... didn't wanna mess with it 1 sec i try
[07:10] <xed> bob2: are you laughing.. laughing doesn't help me..
[07:10] <Cooner750> I think IDE-0 is the Harddrive; that's why it's loading windows
[07:11] <bob2> xed: what?
[07:11] <bob2> xed: you're not even sure if you have a problem or not
[07:11] <tony> i have a problem
[07:11] <Cooner750> vHintswen: Try this: 1. FLOPPY; 2. CDROM; 3. IDE-0
[07:11] <bob2> tony: which is?
[07:11] <xed> bob2: I'm sure.
[07:11] <tony> when i open up synaptic package manager it gives me an error: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:11] <xed> There's .. flickering on the screen..
[07:11] <bob2> xed: and the problem is...
[07:11] <vHintswen> and hard drive?
[07:11] <xed> You know.. the slowness ...
[07:11] <xed> I'm sure thats not suppose to happen.
[07:12] <bob2> xed: what slowness?
[07:12] <bob2> tony: hit the "update" button or so
[07:12] <xed> You know.. it..aggh I suck at explaining this..
[07:12] <Cooner750> vHintswen: is there one called "harddrive"?
[07:12] <concept10> tony, that repository may be down
[07:12] <vHintswen> no it's something -HDD
[07:12] <xed> when fading in or out.. its sort ..of like really slow.. like there's some really shitty fps or something
[07:12] <sbcl3> what repository can i get "sun-j2re1.5" from?
[07:12] <muah>  deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[07:12] <muah>  deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[07:13] <muah> replace your /etc/apt/sources.list w/ the above
[07:13] <bob2> xed: like when logging out?
[07:13] <bob2> muah: NO
[07:13] <Cooner750> vHintswen; Just try it with -- 1. FLOPPY; 2.CDROM; 3. IDE-0
[07:13] <nalioth> !Java
[07:13] <ubotu> I heard java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[07:13] <xed> bob2: that.. would be it,
[07:13] <tony> very confused, i just wanna play mp3's
[07:13] <bob2> that is utterly terrible advice and will break your computer
[07:13] <nalioth> sbcl3: what ubotu said
[07:13] <xed> bob2: and when logging in basically
[07:13] <bob2> muah: perhaps you mean "add to the bottom"
[07:13] <Cooner750> and hdd i dunno.
[07:13] <bob2> xed: known bug
[07:13] <muah> could do that too
[07:13] <xed> its a bug?
[07:13] <xed> How come I never had it on my laptop!?
[07:14] <muah> i just wiped my file and pasted those 2 lines today...werks fine for me
[07:14] <Cooner750> tony; I wanted to play mp3s too. Seems like too much of a hassle
[07:14] <concept10> tony, you need to check the restricted formats wiki
[07:14] <vHintswen> got it...
[07:14] <bob2> muah: er, no, now you're screwed
[07:14] <vHintswen> i have IDE-0,CDROM, HDD
[07:14] <muah> yeah, right...that's why it works for me
[07:14] <tony> if i cant play em im ditchin ubuntu
[07:14] <Cooner750> vHintswen; also when you get the chance; take out the CD and make sure windows still boots without it
[07:14] <hondje> hahahaha
[07:14] <bob2> tony: dude
[07:14] <pepsi> tony, bye
[07:14] <pepsi> :D
[07:14] <bob2> tony: I've explained how to get it
[07:14] <vHintswen> it's in setup...
[07:14] <bob2> tony: which bit is confusing you
[07:14] <xed> no.. no help xed?
[07:15] <tony> thanks pepsi
[07:15] <pepsi> np
[07:15] <concept10> tony, you can play them you just need to install them and have some paitence
[07:15] <bob2> muah: good luck with that (you've told apt not to use ubuntu packages at all, ever)
[07:15] <bob2> pepsi: please don't
[07:15] <tony> i am guys
[07:15] <vHintswen> do i have to go to advanced if i want a dual boot?
[07:15] <bob2> xed: as I said, known bug
[07:15] <tony> i dont wanna screw anything up
[07:15] <bob2> tony: which bit is confusing you?
[07:15] <concept10> !restricted
[07:15] <ubotu> I guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:15] <muah> good point
[07:15] <Cooner750> vHintswen; are you livecd or install cd?
[07:15] <vHintswen> install
[07:15] <tony> well i read about synaptic and how to install
[07:15] <concept10> tony, follow that link
[07:15] <xed> bob2: I don't understand what.. if thats suppose to answer my question
[07:15] <xed> what about when the screensaver's really slow?
[07:16] <tony> k, concept
[07:16] <sbcl3> muah: thankyou very much :)
[07:16] <concept10> tony, go there and read
[07:16] <uJess> how do i mount hdb?
[07:16] <bob2> xed: what screensaver?
[07:16] <Cooner750> um; I dont know much about install. Have you partitioned the HD for ubuntu?
[07:16] <xed> All of them generally
[07:16] <muah> screensaver slow may be due to 3d drivers not being set up
[07:16] <xed> They're generally really slow.
[07:16] <vHintswen> no
[07:16] <bob2> xed: if you mean "screensavers that use GL are slow on a p2", then that's a seperate issue
[07:16] <vHintswen> sum1 said that it'll automaticly do it when i install
[07:16] <xed> muah: and how do I go about setting up the 3d drivers?
[07:16] <bob2> xed: that would be because you haven't enabled the 3d drivers for your card
[07:16] <vHintswen> doesn't really matter if i can't dual boot
[07:16] <muah> ah...how long do u have :)
[07:16] <xed> how do I go about doing this?
[07:16] <bob2> xed: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:16] <xed> Thank you!
[07:16] <bob2> tony: which step is confusing you?
[07:17] <xed> bob2: <3
[07:17] <vHintswen> if i have to install over windows it's no loss to me.. it's a old computer
[07:17] <vHintswen> don't use it much
[07:17] <tony> well you dont use that synaptic so... thats where i got confused
[07:17] <Cooner750> vHintswen: are there any important files; or any files you dont want gone?
[07:17] <vHintswen> not that i know of
[07:17] <bob2> tony: so, you edited /etc/apt/sources.list, like I said?
[07:18] <tony> i removed the #'s from in front of the last two lines
[07:18] <vHintswen> i think i wouls have most of my stuff from there on this computer already...
[07:18] <vHintswen> would*
[07:18] <muah> may want to try sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver
[07:18] <bob2> tony: please paste the whole file to #flood
[07:18] <muah> to install 3d drivers
[07:18] <Cooner750> vHintswen; I'd make sure that you back up any files that you can't decide whether you want or not..
[07:18] <Cooner750> because dosent installing Ubuntu format the drive?
[07:18] <xed> What's the minimum required processor speed for Ubuntu?
[07:18] <muah> there's a thread in the wiki dedicated to setting up 3d drivers in Hoary
[07:18] <bob2> xed: anything
[07:18] <xed> Or should I say, suggested minimum?
[07:19] <bob2> it depends entirely what you want to do
[07:19] <xed> for an gui like gnome..
[07:19] <xed> a*
[07:19] <vHintswen> well i don't use it, my sis only uses for printing sometimes, and someone else only uses for yahoo so there's really no point lol
[07:19] <bob2> gnome will be unhppay with anything slower than a p2 with 256mb of ram
[07:19] <KarlosII> nah
[07:20] <Cooner750> vhintswen; have you made sure the computer can run Ubuntu at a speed that isn't annoying?
[07:20] <vHintswen> no o.o
[07:20] <xed> what's this xfc thing?
[07:20] <bob2> "xfce"
[07:20] <xed> yeah, that
[07:20] <hondje> XFce is a light-weight, full featured desktop environment
[07:20] <vHintswen> where's the system requirements?
[07:21] <Cooner750> vHintswen; what speed processor and how much RAM does the computer have?
[07:21] <xed> what be that?
[07:21] <vHintswen> o.o slow and 159.0 MB ram lol
[07:21] <bob2> another desktop, ala gnome but simpler
[07:21] <xed> how's that thing? i heard it works faster than gnome..
[07:21] <xed> hmm.. do I have to dowload it? Because I really don't want to have to download it.
[07:21] <xed> I don't have net on the p2 yet.
[07:21] <Tweek> xed ditch x11 :)
[07:21] <xed> x11.. being.. what?
[07:22] <Tweek> :<
[07:22] <xed> What?
[07:22] <Tweek> graphical interface
[07:22] <xed> Oh.. i see
[07:22] <Tweek> sorta
[07:22] <xed> Well I'm not even close to being that far advanced yet.
[07:22] <vHintswen> 1-2ghz maybe...
[07:22] <Cooner750> vhintswen; hmm.... 159MB ram seems like a odd RAM #. Does it have onboard video?
[07:22] <hondje> x11 is just a protocol
[07:22] <xed> I'd cry without the gui. Thats how sad and pathetic I am.
[07:22] <bob2> Tweek: confusing people doesn't really help
[07:22] <adamb10> The command line rules
[07:22] <vHintswen> i'lno clue
[07:22] <natofe> hola
[07:22] <Tweek> hondje i can't explain it or myself
[07:22] <vHintswen> no clue*
[07:23] <vHintswen> well if it is really slow then i can always just get rid of it right?
[07:23] <Cooner750> Yes.
[07:23] <vHintswen> and put windows back on with a nice formated hard drive :D
[07:23] <xed> vHintswen: that doesn't help at all..
[07:23] <vHintswen> lol
[07:24] <Cooner750> well; if there isnt anything important on the computer; I'd like to hand the install help over to someone else; if possibe? I dont know squat about the install process
[07:24] <xed> no laughing at/with you! =(
[07:24] <adamb10> U shouldnt be afraid of the command line
[07:24] <natofe> chao
[07:24] <vHintswen> i just wanna get it installed so i can check it out, only gonna b using it for web and chat anyway
[07:24] <xed> I'm not afraid of it, I'm just not used to it enough to completely get rid of the helpful gui.
[07:24] <adamb10> The command line is your friend.  You treat it well it treats you well
[07:24] <vHintswen> k...
[07:24] <adamb10> I just installed Gentoo I should know :p
[07:25] <vHintswen> anyone here wanna guide me through instaliation?
[07:25] <toresbe> ew, gentoo :P
[07:25] <Cooner750> can someone provide a link to a install tutorial for vhintswen...
[07:25] <Cooner750> I dont know anything about installing :(...
[07:25] <muah> aak
[07:25] <adamb10> hmmm, does Debian have one on there site?
[07:25] <xed> "package nvidia-glx is not available, but is referred to by another package.  This may mean that the package ism issing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source      E: Package nvidia-glx has no installation candidate"
[07:26] <adamb10>  toresbe:  Gentoo is ok, easy to install
[07:26] <toresbe> adamb10: ...
[07:26] <toresbe> adamb10: BWAHAHAHAHAHA
[07:26] <bob2> xed: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[07:26] <scott> I'm getting this gconf error when I login. I got rid of ~/.gconf* and ~/.gnome* thinking that would fix it but it's still there. anyone seen this?
[07:26] <muah> u may have to add some sources in your apt-get sources.list file in order to download the gfx drivers...something i had to do
[07:26] <bob2> toresbe: it seems simple in the sense that the user doesn't have to know anything about linux
[07:26] <adamb10>  toresbe:  I was able to install it in 3 hours
[07:26] <toresbe> adamb10: bash.org/?464385
[07:26] <xed> bob2: if I could, I woult.
[07:26] <bob2> toresbe: they just type the instructions from the website
[07:26] <xed> would*
[07:26] <scott> it's a big long error whining about not being able to write to the gconf database
[07:26] <hondje> gentoo is great, too bad most of its users don't know how to use it :(
[07:26] <Cooner750> vHintswen; what options is the installer giving you now?
[07:26] <toresbe> bob2: hmm, that's true
[07:26] <bob2> xed: well, we can't help without it, sorry
[07:26] <toresbe> bob2: but you very easily get stuck
[07:26] <muah> reinstall :)
[07:27] <toresbe> bob2: like I did
[07:27] <vHintswen> default, base system only and advanced
[07:27] <xed> bob2: I'm on my laptop.. I do not have access to the internets on the computer with ubuntu
[07:27] <toresbe> hehe
[07:27] <muah> "the internets?"
[07:27] <toresbe> "the internets" :)
[07:27] <xed> the internets!!!
[07:27] <Tweek> UH OH
[07:27] <hondje> rumors abound
[07:27] <xed> I love GWB.
[07:27] <muah> how many internets do u have?
[07:27] <Cooner750> hmm. maybe 'default'
[07:27] <Tweek> 7
[07:27] <vHintswen> maybe?!? lol
[07:27] <toresbe> muah: 4.2441
[07:27] <bob2> come on folks
[07:27] <xed> "So I heard these rumors on the internets"
[07:27] <muah> daaam
[07:27] <teresa_> et
[07:27] <vHintswen> only maybe?!?
[07:27] <xed> "you know.. the inter netting in your swim shorts"
[07:27] <vHintswen> :)
[07:28] <Cooner750> vhintswen; what version of windows did the PC have on it?
[07:28] <egg|sonic> bash.org.... amazing site
[07:28] <vHintswen> 98 o.o
[07:28] <vHintswen> 98SE
[07:28] <adamb10> I <3 bash.org
[07:28] <egg|sonic> 98?
[07:28] <neighborlee> why exactly do some synaptic added program icons not display right in the Menu ?...although if you click properties on it it shows up fine ...;-)) ( and is there a fix for this by chance)
[07:28] <vHintswen> just like this 1 did till comp tech put XP on :(
[07:28] <vHintswen> i like 98!
[07:28] <adamb10> 98 sucks :p
[07:29] <egg|sonic> 98,XP....what's it?
[07:29] <vHintswen> better than 3.1
[07:29] <Cooner750> did it have XP? Hopefully the installer can format the drive; because it cannot install to NTFS
[07:29] <vHintswen> it's 98
[07:29] <egg|sonic> dos 3.1?
[07:29] <muah> 3.51 rawked
[07:29] <Cooner750> ok; whew
[07:29] <vHintswen> it's always had 98 that 1...
[07:29] <bob2> neighborlee: the packages didn';t register themselves in the menu
[07:29] <toresbe> bash.org is the world's greatest timewaster <3
[07:29] <Cooner750> that means that hopefully it's in FAT32 format
[07:29] <vHintswen> yeah it is :D
[07:29] <bob2> neighborlee: if you use the menu editor "smeg", you can add them yourselves
[07:29] <neighborlee> dont blame you...without alot of ram XP is resource pig..even with it its not fun ..;-)
[07:29] <vHintswen> there's something i do know
[07:29] <egg|sonic> FAT12?
[07:30] <vHintswen> FAT6
[07:30] <neighborlee> bob2, ah ok
[07:30] <Cooner750> FAT16? FAT8. lol
[07:30] <vHintswen> lol so i can go default?
[07:30] <vHintswen> it's actually SKINNY64
[07:30] <egg|sonic> 12 -> 16 -> 32 ?
[07:30] <Cooner750> anybody? Is the default the main install option. (I need help here)
[07:30] <vHintswen> lol
[07:30] <toresbe> http://bash.org/?515496  hahaha
[07:30] <vHintswen> u mean i need help here :P
[07:30] <bob2> Cooner750: on the install cd? yes.
[07:30] <vHintswen> .bash
[07:31] <vHintswen> oops
[07:31] <egg|sonic> you can edit fat by hand ^^
[07:31] <xed> getting the internets on this comptuer is not going to be teh fun =(
[07:31] <vHintswen> u can edit skinny by fat
[07:31] <egg|sonic> ...
[07:31] <Cooner750> a nice joke... "Cannot read FAT record; try the SKINNY one?"
[07:31] <toresbe> heh
[07:31] <vHintswen> lol
[07:32] <vHintswen> EAT=FAT
[07:32] <adamb10> lol
[07:32] <toresbe> A bit walks into a bar and orders a beer
[07:32] <toresbe> no, a byte
[07:32] <toresbe> a byte walks into a bar
[07:32] <toresbe> Bartender asks, "What's wrong?"
[07:32] <egg|sonic> (NSA did)
[07:32] <neza> can anyone recomend a ftp server software
[07:32] <toresbe> The byte sighs and says "parity error"
[07:32] <vHintswen> o.o
[07:32] <toresbe> Bartender replies, "Yeah, I thought you looked a bit off"
[07:33] <muah> LOL
[07:33] <Cooner750> lol
[07:33] <vHintswen> maybe i shuld go turn that comp's screen off...
[07:33] <vHintswen> SCREEN BURN!
[07:33] <Cooner750> I'd go ahead and select default and see what happens.
[07:33] <vHintswen> i'm gonna have "UBUNTU" on my screen forever
[07:33] <adamb10> lol
[07:33] <vHintswen> k
[07:33] <egg|sonic> w hat 's m #$5ater ?
[07:33] <Cooner750> let me set a disclaimer though... I'm not responsible for the data on that drive :)
[07:34] <egg|sonic> my c o nsoel is  so mething wrong$%^
[07:34] <vHintswen> SHIT! it's loading ubuntu!
[07:34] <adamb10> hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is
[07:34] <egg|sonic> ^^ joke
[07:34] <vHintswen> old!
[07:34] <egg|sonic> ...
[07:34] <adamb10> Still funny
[07:34] <vHintswen> if anything happens to my data... i'm alright with that
[07:34] <Cooner750> vhintswen; what happens after you selected default?
[07:34] <vHintswen> as long as i can get windows back on there...
[07:34] <muah> your data will be happier
[07:34] <vHintswen> loading some stuff from cd...
[07:34] <Cooner750> vhintswen; do you have a 98 install cd?
[07:35] <muah> torrent...?
[07:35] <muah> :D
[07:35] <Cooner750> lol
[07:35] <spike> .cl
[07:35] <vHintswen> choose language
[07:35] <vHintswen> ... choose location...
[07:35] <vHintswen> umm somewhere
[07:35] <Cooner750> ....
[07:35] <vHintswen> in the bin maybe lol
[07:35] <muah> get a mac already
[07:35] <vHintswen> m sis has a mac :D
[07:35] <Cooner750> did it even want to format the drive?
[07:36] <egg|sonic> intel mac?
[07:36] <vHintswen> not yet...
[07:36] <Cooner750> Macs are nice. I have a mac mini
[07:36] <hondje> vHintswen: if you don't like ubuntu, you'll have to dig that windows CD up
[07:36] <adamb10> Macs kick ass
[07:36] <vHintswen> Apply Mac
[07:36] <hondje> I have a mini mac, and it needs to go to the shop AGAIN
[07:36] <Cooner750> hondje; what's wrong with it?
[07:36] <hondje> mac quality is such a myth
[07:36] <egg|sonic> MAC WILL DIE
[07:36] <muah> friggin ibook died...flaw w/ video chip solder I've read...no repair
[07:36] <hondje> Cooner750: CPU needs replaced
[07:36] <hondje> They already replaced the logic board
[07:36] <vHintswen> ...select keyboard layout...
[07:36] <Cooner750> hondje; that's a rare issue
[07:37] <muah> chinese
[07:37] <vHintswen> ... decting hardware...
[07:37] <egg|sonic> ?
[07:37] <muah> raid 11
[07:37] <Cooner750> vhintswen; self explainitory.....
[07:37] <vHintswen> no it's not
[07:37] <vHintswen> what's decting mean?
[07:37] <ninwa> It's detecting your hardware.
[07:37] <hondje> Cooner750: crappy logic board caused CPU to overheat waaay too much, now it randomly locks up, which indicates dying CPU to me
[07:37] <vHintswen> lol
[07:37] <muah> it's watching u
[07:37] <vHintswen> if you say so...
[07:37] <r0d> egg|sonic, theirs no way. the mac nuts will never stop buying. no matter how crazy the price
[07:37] <ninwa> You can't read, apparently.
[07:37] <xoz> hondje: we have 7 macs here and didn't have problem for 2 years. is this a myth?
[07:37] <Cooner750> vhintswen; I hope you can find that windows cd if you dont like ubuntu. but you should :)
[07:38] <vHintswen> what's "FATAL ERROR!" mean
[07:38] <egg|sonic> indeed
[07:38] <muah> call 911!
[07:38] <vHintswen> found 98 CD :D
[07:38] <hondje> xoz: No, but it's not any better than 7 comperably priced HPs, or other OEMs
[07:38] <muah> you are having a heart attack
[07:38] <Cooner750> vhintswen: you're joking; right?
[07:38] <vHintswen> 911? from australia?
[07:38] <egg|sonic> 90% of people are ...
[07:38] <vHintswen> no
[07:38] <vHintswen> seriously what's "FATAL ERROR!" mean
[07:38] <Cooner750> ? does it say anything about the fatal error?
[07:38] <Cooner750> any log message?
[07:38] <r0d> and yet its only 5% of the market
[07:38] <vHintswen> no just says "FATAL ERROR!"
[07:39] <xoz> hondje: yeah, you need statistics to prove... not just a single bad experience.
[07:39] <ninwa> Oi wei.
[07:39] <Cooner750> any options? Abort; Retry?
[07:39] <egg|sonic> oh 5% of people are ...
[07:39] <vHintswen> no
[07:39] <vHintswen> well... yes
[07:39] <ninwa> Cooner750, Bad Command or Filename?
[07:39] <hondje> I have multiple bad experiences, and I deal with lots of different platforms
[07:39] <vHintswen> [Ok] 
[07:39] <egg|sonic> brain damage?
[07:39] <hondje> Though my B&W is still kicking along
[07:39] <Cooner750> vhintswen; just hit OK and cross you're fingers
[07:39] <vHintswen> and...
[07:39] <ninwa> Sound advice.
[07:39] <vHintswen> [Accept that your computer is stuffed] 
[07:40] <r0d> no, the computers out their
[07:40] <Cooner750> ... will it still boot windows?
[07:40] <r0d> market share of the industry
 swillitstillbootwindows?
 All of these kernel panics make this computer more secure.
 The machine can't be hacked when it's down.
[07:40] <egg|sonic> Cooner750:  please press "any" key
[07:40] <adamb10> I absolutley love bash.org
[07:40] <r0d> haha
[07:40] <ninwa> vHintswen, Did you check the "hardware supported" list in the Wiki before installing?
[07:40] <vHintswen> where's the any key?
[07:40] <Cooner750> "Bad command or file name!" "Go stand in the corner"
[07:40] <vHintswen> the what what on what what?
[07:40] <muah> we've been had!
[07:40] <egg|sonic> ^^||| a od joke
[07:40] <vHintswen> fatal error msg was from a VB program :P
[07:41] <egg|sonic> old
[07:41] <vHintswen> sucked in
[07:41] <adamb10> No keyboard detected.  Press F1 to continue
[07:41] <Amaranth> vHintswen: Next to the 'Next' mouse button
[07:41] <muah> score 1 for vH!
[07:41] <vHintswen> host name...
[07:41] <ninwa> vHintswen, I know you're kidding with some of this, but mine was a serious question.
[07:41] <cory_> hello
[07:41] <ninwa> cory_, Hello.
[07:41] <cory_> what is a good mpeg/avi viewer for linux?
[07:41] <vHintswen> no i didn't o.o
[07:41] <ninwa> mplayer
[07:41] <vHintswen> shit
[07:41] <hondje> xine
[07:41] <ninwa> sudo apt-get install mplayer
[07:41] <vHintswen> i knew i was foregetting something
[07:41] <xed_bleh> So.. I fucked up the Pentium2's powersupply
[07:41] <adamb10> use ubuntu guide to install mplayer
[07:41] <xed_bleh> Man, I'm so awesome..!
[07:41] <cory_> my synaptic package manager cannot find the dependencies it' needs to install mplayer
[07:42] <Cooner750> "Press any key.... oh no No NO not that one!"
[07:42] <muah> you need to update your sources.list file
[07:42] <ninwa> adamb10, Is that the guide that says "apt-get" [filename]  for EVERY entry? Seems redundant.
[07:42] <adamb10> SO I was trying to install Xorg on Debian the other day...
[07:42] <cory_> how do i update that :-x?
[07:42] <egg|sonic> Cooner750:  ^_^|
[07:42] <Amaranth> cory_: Get marillat out of your sources.list
[07:42] <cory_> sudo apt-get update ?
[07:42] <vHintswen> Erase drive or manually edit partitioning table?
[07:42] <adamb10> before I found out I can't
[07:42] <vHintswen> i can just erase right?
[07:42] <Cooner750> ? can someone help vhintswen?
[07:42] <muah> that'll update the sources in your file...you may need to add a couple sources to your list, then update
[07:43] <ninwa> vHintswen, Yes.
[07:43] <vHintswen> k
[07:43] <ninwa> vHintswen, Keep in mind that it will erase all of your data.
[07:43] <muah> vH:  yes, definitely manually edit your partiition table...ur up to it
[07:43] <vHintswen> /meme kills Cooner750 for loss of data
[07:43] <cory_> how do i know what to add to my list?
[07:43] <ninwa> muah, Don't encourage him.
[07:43] <muah> :D
[07:43] <ninwa> cory_, Are you in a window manager?
[07:43] <Cooner750> ...............
[07:43] <cory_> yes
[07:43] <ninwa> (gnome, kde, etc...)
[07:43] <ninwa> Okay, try running Synaptic, it's friendlier
[07:44] <cory_> gnome
[07:44] <muah> vH is messing w/ us
[07:44] <cory_> i did, and it can't get the dependencies it needs
[07:44] <adamb10> I prefer classic apt, has more power
[07:44] <Cooner750> vhintswen; what is it doing?
[07:44] <vHintswen> /me kills Cooner750 for loss of data
[07:44] <hondje> classic apt?
[07:44] <hondje> whaaaat?
[07:44] <vHintswen> dam lol
[07:44] <adamb10> yeah, apt-get install
[07:44] <vHintswen> well it asked me if i wanted to make the changes(swap and something else)
[07:44] <hondje> How's that classic? :-/
[07:44] <vHintswen> now it's...
[07:44] <muah> ...on fire
[07:45] <adamb10> It uses the command line :p
[07:45] <Cooner750> lol
[07:45] <ninwa> cory_ try going into settings -> repositories, and add updates and security updates...
[07:45] <vHintswen> blue screen of death
[07:45] <Cooner750> "now it's.. on file"
[07:45] <Cooner750> on fire
[07:45] <muah> BSOD!!
[07:45] <Cooner750> f*ing keyboard
[07:45] <vHintswen> but without the writing
[07:45] <Cooner750> brb
[07:45] <vHintswen> lol
[07:45] <adamb10> BSODS are the equivelent of a kernel panic only easier to deal with
[07:45] <vHintswen> it's the screen that's been there throughout the whole installiation but with no writing at all
[07:45] <muah> some people go ubuntu to avoid BSOD...
[07:45] <cory_> ok
[07:45] <ninwa> perhaps those repositories will have the libs you need, otherwise manually install them (or try to find an installer), or try an alternative player as was mentioned Xine I think.
[07:46] <ninwa> im sure they use simliar deps though
[07:46] <adamb10> Kernel panics suck
[07:46] <cory_> can u tell me where i might find the settings -> repositories (sorry i'm kinda new to linux/ubuntu)
[07:46] <ninwa> so that would probably be redundant
[07:46] <ninwa> sorry, in synaptic
[07:46] <cory_> ok thx
[07:46] <vHintswen> if it's formating it... how long would it take(roughly 20GB data)
[07:46] <ninwa> I'm new too, no worries.
[07:46] <muah> the ubuntuforum is a wonderful resource, seriously...most answers are there
[07:46] <ninwa> muah, probably so
[07:46] <Cooner750> vhintswen; well. all it has to do is overwrite everything with zeros I think....
[07:47] <xed_pentiumII> HOO RAAAAY
[07:47] <Cooner750> ??
[07:47] <hondje> vHintswen: takes like 2 minutes
[07:47] <vHintswen> Installing Ubuntu
[07:47] <xed_pentiumII> I have gotten the internets onto the pentiumII
[07:47] <ninwa> xed_pentiumII, HUZZAH!
[07:47] <hondje> Cooner750: That's not formatting
[07:47] <ninwa> The whole thing?
[07:47] <xed_pentiumII> HOOHA!
[07:47] <vHintswen> Pleese wait while we burn "UBUNTU" to your screen
[07:47] <muah> LOL
[07:47] <Cooner750> hondje; isn't that "overwriting" :p
[07:47] <ninwa> vHintswen, Alright alright, you can quit trolling now ^^
[07:47] <xed_pentiumII> now, where's bob2?
[07:47] <muah> vH rawks
[07:47] <vHintswen> lol k :D
[07:47] <hondje> Cooner750: That's 'shit, the feds are here!'
[07:47] <vHintswen> setup reminds my of dos...
[07:48] <cory_> ok, that didn't make a difference :(
[07:48] <vHintswen> omg all thoes cool dos games that i love!
[07:48] <Cooner750> DOS. The Disk Operating System. The best in the world........ not
[07:48] <zyth> freedos.org
[07:48] <zyth> woot
[07:48] <Cooner750> I consider DOS a sorry excuse for a command line
[07:48] <ninwa> cory_, Ah, well if you added them correctly it would've given you access to more packages, I didn't know whether or not what you needed would be one of them. Sorry I couldn't help.
[07:48] <ninwa> Perhaps another person here can.
[07:48] <adamb10> Yeah I have a question.  Why do all os's start with a BS during setup and not a colorful on?
[07:48] <xed_pentiumII> lets play a game called "who wants to help xed?"
[07:48] <vHintswen> overkill<-- my favourite game, also the first game i ever played on PC
[07:48] <muah> BTW...back up your sources.list file before mucking w/ it
[07:48] <egg|sonic> Duck Operate System
[07:48] <r0d> Cooner750, who uses DOS anyways
[07:48] <ninwa> vHintswen, What type of game was it?
[07:49] <xed_pentiumII> lets play a game called "who wants to help xed?"
[07:49] <vHintswen> $21 US(inc. postage) for full version thow :(
[07:49] <r0d> Cooner750, besides is old. how can you compare
[07:49] <vHintswen> space shooter
[07:49] <cory_> thx
[07:49] <hondje> atc is a fun game when you're not in X
[07:49] <Cooner750> r0d; umm.... that computer that i have from the 80s that has a big red power switch and a 5 1/4 in. floppy drive :p
[07:49] <ninwa> cory_, Did you try the Totem player, it should be installed with the base installation.
[07:49] <vHintswen> youre a spaceship, gotta shoot enemies and stuff, survive...
[07:49] <Cooner750> A "XA"
[07:49] <ninwa> vHintswen, Ever play commander keen?
[07:50] <xed_pentiumII> Commander Keen was a FUN game.
[07:50] <xed_pentiumII> I loved that game.
[07:50] <ninwa> definitely :] 
[07:50] <r0d> Cooner750,  what are you comparing it to?
[07:50] <vHintswen> i got that
[07:50] <ninwa> I have it on CD somewhere
[07:50] <hack> Commander Keen was so great
[07:50] <vHintswen> i got the full version of it somewhere...
[07:50] <xed_pentiumII> Full version?
[07:50] <ninwa> hondje, Is that all the cli games?
[07:50] <Cooner750> r0d; i'm comparing it's command line (about all it is) to Linux's command line
[07:50] <vHintswen> yeah
[07:50] <Cooner750> (Terminal)
[07:50] <Amaranth> blobwars is awesome
[07:50] <hondje> ninwa: lots of them, like atc and star trek
[07:50] <egg|sonic> gcc- gentoo games collection
[07:50] <Cooner750> and yes; DOS games are fun. That's what I sometimes use the old 80s computer for...
[07:51] <ninwa> What they need is the hithchikers guide to the galaxy game on linux cli, I bet its somewhere on the net
[07:51] <egg|sonic> s gcc ggc
[07:51] <ninwa> that was an interesting...text adventure.
[07:51] <vHintswen> who would think... a 15 yr old kid surrounded by all this technology would like 2d games better than 3d games
[07:51] <ninwa> vHintswen, Only 15?
[07:51] <vHintswen> yep :)
[07:51] <r0d> Cooner750,  I'd agree with you. its just linux wasnt around in the 80's so it would be unfair to. Unix was better back then..:)
[07:51] <vHintswen> long way to go till i'm your age :P
[07:51] <ninwa> Cool, got two on me, 17 here. :)
[07:51] <muah> apple ] [
[07:51] <hondje> shit, now I feel old
[07:51] <ninwa> vHintswen, Not quite.
[07:52] <Cooner750> r0d; true :). Linux pretty much came from Unix
[07:52] <vHintswen> lol
[07:52] <egg|sonic> I like 1D games
[07:52] <xed_pentiumII> I like chicken.
[07:52] <ninwa> egg|sonic, Those are the best. My favorite is "Dot"
[07:52] <Cooner750> i like pizza
[07:52] <egg|sonic> ^^
[07:52] <ninwa> You move up and down, dodging nothing, because dodging is impossible.
[07:52] <vHintswen> how do u say linux?(ine-x or lynn-ux or lin-ux etc.)
[07:52] <xed_pentiumII> Cooner750, I don't know, chicken IS pretty damn good..
[07:52] <hondje> lynn-ux
[07:52] <ninwa> Lin - ux.
[07:52] <Cooner750> Lin-ux
[07:52] <ninwa> Yeah.
[07:52] <vHintswen> line-x
[07:52] <Cooner750> yes; i like chicked too
[07:52] <Tweek> i say, lynn-icks
[07:52] <hondje> Only PHBs say Line-x
[07:52] <xed_pentiumII> Lin (as in Bin) - ux (as in tux)
[07:53] <Cooner750> line-x. lol
[07:53] <buffbikedude> quick poll: who's still using Ubuntu's default theme for Gnome? Personally, I dig the earth tones. But I've only been using Ubuntu for 2 weeks, so there is a chance my preferences could change.
[07:53] <muah> default
[07:53] <ninwa> I use some swuave blue one, who knows...
[07:53] <Cooner750> I'm using livecd; so it dosent really matter :p
[07:53] <hondje> buffbikedude: default at work
[07:53] <muah> Windows XP theme
[07:53] <Cooner750> it gets lost anyways
[07:53] <ninwa> I don't mess with the themes too much.
[07:53] <muah> oh damn...i'm running XP!!
[07:53] <egg|sonic> buffbikedude:  fvwm or xfce
[07:53] <xed_pentiumII> I'm using the "I need help with ubuntu" theme
[07:53] <vHintswen> lol
[07:53] <vHintswen> i running XP but not XP theme :P
[07:53] <hondje> at home I use Amaranth w/ gartoon icons
[07:53] <Cooner750> muah: XP = Yuck... Windows = Yuck
[07:53] <ninwa> xed_pentiumII, shoot your question :] 
[07:54] <muah> couldn't agree more cooner
[07:54] <vHintswen> i'll be using the "screen burn" theme
[07:54] <Cooner750> lol
[07:54] <xed_pentiumII> ninwa: how do i go about..ah damnit! i was talking to bob2..
[07:54] <Cooner750> At least screen burn cant happen to LCD....
[07:54] <vHintswen> that's the 1 that keeps "UBUNTU" ontop of everyting else, even when your computer's off!
[07:54] <vHintswen> wanna make a bet?
[07:54] <ninwa> No.
[07:54] <Cooner750> ?
[07:54] <buffbikedude> thanks all. just curious :)
[07:54] <xed_pentiumII> damnit.. now ..ah poop.
[07:54] <vHintswen> send me your screen and i'll send it back with U LOOSE! burnt on it
[07:54] <Cooner750> lol
[07:54] <Tweek> yes
[07:55] <Tweek> lcd burn easier
[07:55] <ninwa> I would've never guessed that you were fifteen. :o)
[07:55] <Tweek> alot easier
[07:55] <egg|sonic> ubuntu! ubuntu! ubuntu!
[07:55] <Cooner750> really? I mustve got my computer things mixed up
[07:55] <Cooner750> I know CRT can really burn
[07:55] <muah> anyone running ubuntu as server?
[07:55] <egg|sonic> mad?
[07:55] <ninwa> I've never had a monitor burn on me.
[07:55] <vHintswen> ubuntu comes with a web browser right?
[07:55] <hondje> define server :p
[07:55] <ninwa> vHintswen, Of course.
[07:55] <vHintswen> irc client?
[07:55] <ninwa> Mozilla Firefox I believe.
[07:55] <HrdwrBoB> vHintswen: because they are not secured very well
[07:55] <HrdwrBoB> ?
[07:55] <ninwa> vHintswen, Xchat
[07:55] <vHintswen> ooh i love firefox :D
[07:56] <Cooner750> I'm using Xchat now :D
[07:56] <ninwa> vHintswen, It comes with quite a good base installation I thought.
[07:56] <Cooner750> yes; Firefox is the best-of the best
[07:56] <vHintswen> it comes with xchat or i gotta get it
[07:56] <ninwa> I was impressed it fit on one cd
[07:56] <JDahl> muah, canonical for one, I think
[07:56] <ninwa> then I remembered they were all binaries
[07:56] <HrdwrBoB> 'loose' of course being the opposite of 'tight'
[07:56] <xed_pentiumII> ninwa: i need help with enabling the 3d support for my video card.
[07:56] <vHintswen> i'm actually thinking of getting BitchX for irc...
[07:56] <egg|sonic> firefox is bad ass
[07:56] <Cooner750> who here; if anybody; that's using windows; uses IE?
[07:56] <vHintswen> just cause of e name lol
[07:56] <muah> lost me
[07:56] <ninwa> xed_pentiumII, Which type of card?
[07:56] <vHintswen> not me
[07:56] <xed_pentiumII> GeForce2 MX 100 DDR/200 DDR
[07:56] <ninwa> I mean, which card, rather
[07:56] <vHintswen> IE SUX!
[07:56] <xed_pentiumII> ninwa: GeForce2 MX 100 DDR/200 DDR
[07:56] <zshakespeare> I don't use IE, but I am an MSN technician ;)
[07:57] <ninwa> xed_pentiumII, I think you may be in luck, doesn't nvidia provide an installation script for their drivers?
[07:57] <Cooner750> zshakespeare; ouch
[07:57] <HrdwrBoB> vHintswen: your powers of software review are astonishing
[07:57] <bob2> xed_pentiumII: paste it to #food
[07:57] <lancer285> can anyone help me w/ installing the official nvidia driversL
[07:57] <xed_pentiumII> #food
[07:57] <vHintswen> yep :D
[07:57] <xed_pentiumII> bob2: what am I pasting in #food?
[07:57] <egg|sonic> o.o
[07:57] <HrdwrBoB> lancer285: yes, BinaryDriverHowto on the wiki
[07:57] <muah> the gfx install via apt-get took care of installing my nvidia 3d drivers
[07:57] <vHintswen> i know my game is better than halo 2 :D
[07:57] <lancer285> okay, thanks Bob
[07:57] <bob2> xed_pentiumII: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:57] <vHintswen> even thow no1 here would b able to play it even if i sent u the client
[07:57] <Cooner750> I remember someone I know calling M$ tech support one time.... took 4 hours to get a answer
[07:57] <HrdwrBoB> no problem
[07:58] <vHintswen> lol then the phone bill
[07:58] <egg|sonic> lack $$$
[07:58] <vHintswen> they charge $5US/minute?
[07:58] <zshakespeare> most Microsoft techs don't know their ass from ahole in the ground
[07:58] <ninwa> vHintswen, 2d or..?
[07:58] <ninwa> vHintswen, I bet WineX could handle it :)
[07:58] <Cooner750> lol
[07:58] <vHintswen> 2d
[07:58] <ninwa> Easy then.
[07:58] <vHintswen> of corse it's 2d!
[07:58] <vHintswen> y would i make a 3d game?!?
[07:58] <ninwa> Shoot me the client, I want to see.
[07:58] <xed_pentiumII> bob2: pasted.
[07:58] <vHintswen> no :P
[07:58] <xed_pentiumII> zshakespeare, I am a vegetarian, but I eat chicken...and beef.. and.. all other non-vegetarian food.
[07:58] <egg|sonic> $5 /min <- irc support ^^
[07:58] <vHintswen> i'd give u dl link but i only got old version on my site
[07:59] <muah> k, xed...
[07:59] <Cooner750> vHintswen: where is is along the install process?
[07:59] <bob2> xed_pentiumII: er, #flood
[07:59] <ninwa> xed_pentiumII, I'm ap eace activist, but I kill people only when they get on my nerves.
[07:59] <xed_pentiumII> muah: ...?
[07:59] <vHintswen> old version DEFINATLY doesn't work
[07:59] <ninwa> peace*
[07:59] <muah> vegan?
[07:59] <xed_pentiumII> I posted in FOOD! damnit! FOOD!
[07:59] <vHintswen> lemmi check...
[07:59] <Cooner750> lol
[07:59] <ninwa> I think he meant flood.
[07:59] <xed_pentiumII> Now I'm hungry!
[07:59] <Cooner750> screen burn
[07:59] <vHintswen> 68%
[07:59] <lancer285> HrdwrBob are those nvidia drivers from apt-get the correct, up to date drivers from nvidia??
[07:59] <vHintswen> yeah i gonna have a blue screen burnt on it...
[07:59] <HrdwrBoB> lancer285: yes
[07:59] <bob2> xed_pentiumII: wow, warty, old skool
[08:00] <Cooner750> 68%? must be a decent CD drive
[08:00] <zshakespeare> now for the reason i am here: if I plug in my webcam (it shows as an audio device) I get no sound. if I unplug it and reboot it goes thru my NForce card. How do I make the NForce card the default
[08:00] <muah> gah, i should have written it all down
[08:00] <ninwa> vHintswen, What the installer doesn't predict is the amount of time you will spend debugging.
[08:00] <muah> i believe so tho
[08:00] <ninwa> So add about five hours to the time.
[08:00] <vHintswen> decent?
[08:00] <lancer285> okay, thnx
[08:00] <vHintswen> it's OLD
[08:00] <vHintswen> really really really old!
[08:00] <egg|sonic> ?
[08:00] <xed_pentiumII> bob2: I'm sorry :(
[08:00] <bob2> xed_pentiumII: eh?
[08:00] <Cooner750> vhintswen; what speed does it say on the front.... "1x" lol
[08:00] <vHintswen> lol maybe i shuld put it in this comp...
[08:00] <vHintswen> cd shattered in this 1 :(
[08:00] <xed_pentiumII> bob2: I don't know.. I'm confused.  I pasted and now I sit.
[08:00] <vHintswen> now i gotta use externam dvd burner for everything
[08:00] <bob2> xed_pentiumII: uncomment the 3 and 4th lines
[08:00] <nekohayo> is it planned to limit the cpu usage from copying files (from drives or cdroms) in breezy or something?
[08:00] <Cooner750> a CD shattered? must've been cracked
[08:00] <bob2> your attitude is rather odd
[08:01] <vHintswen> yeah
[08:01] <bob2> nekohayo: no
[08:01] <Cooner750> slightly cracked or off balance
[08:01] <vHintswen> burnt copy of a game
[08:01] <xed_pentiumII> bob2: done
[08:01] <nekohayo> wth no ? XD
[08:01] <vHintswen> i don't trust originals so i use copies
[08:01] <nekohayo> not*
[08:01] <vHintswen> i've got 3 copies of sim tower!
[08:01] <bob2> xed_pentiumII: now run "sudo apt-get update" and follow the howto again
[08:01] <egg|sonic> umm,good tech
[08:01] <vHintswen> and then i realised u don't need cd in to play o.o
[08:01] <Cooner750> vhintswen; I make copies so I dont have to damage the origionals
[08:01] <bob2> nekohayo: because it's very hard and silly
[08:01] <xed_pentiumII> bob2: fun time!
[08:01] <bob2> nekohayo: just enable dma on your drives
[08:02] <xed_pentiumII> bob2: can you repaste the howto link again please?
[08:02] <r0d> bob2,  you know a good url to some more servers for my sources.list
[08:02] <vHintswen> i would have made a copy of TS2:U but can't... had to get mini-image instead...
[08:02] <bob2> I'm not even sure if it would be possible to do cpu rlimits in the kernel
[08:02] <nekohayo> bob2, isn't that a default-activated?
[08:02] <bob2> r0d: why do you want to add more?
[08:02] <bob2> xed_pentiumII: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:02] <bob2> nekohayo: depends if the kernel thinks your chipset/drive are broken
[08:02] <r0d> bob2: because theirs packages that come w/ the ones on their
[08:02] <xed_pentiumII> weeeeeee look at it go
[08:02] <bob2> nekohayo: it's very careful to only enable it on known-good ones
[08:02] <r0d> *dont
[08:02] <bob2> r0d: e.g.?
[08:02] <Cooner750> vhintswen; like me take a guess at what % it's at..... uh...... 87?
[08:03] <vHintswen> copying remaining packages to disk...
[08:03] <vHintswen> finished install :P
[08:03] <Cooner750> let's cross our fingers and see if it boots :)
[08:03] <r0d> bob2,  funny thing is, I dont remember of the top my head. one i know was a dvd backup program
[08:03] <vHintswen> u not v good at guessing
[08:03] <vHintswen> "FATAL ERROR!"
[08:03] <vHintswen> lol
[08:03] <bob2> r0d: have you enabled the universe repository?
[08:03] <Cooner750> again; lol
[08:03] <Cooner750> Try OK again
[08:03] <r0d> bob2,  yep
[08:04] <egg|sonic> vHintswen:  good ob
[08:04] <egg|sonic> vHintswen:  good job
[08:04] <vHintswen> shit that scared me
[08:04] <vHintswen> i went to check it, black screen
[08:04] <r0d> bob2,  is their a good url to some more servers?
[08:04] <Cooner750> wow. it's 2:04 AM here :)
[08:04] <vHintswen> foregot i turned off monitor lol
[08:04] <Cooner750> lol
[08:04] <ninwa> Cooner750, Here too.
[08:04] <bob2> r0d: no, I would not trust random external repositories
[08:04] <Cooner750> ninwa; where are you located?
[08:04] <Cooner750> If you dont mind me asking..
[08:04] <ninwa> Outside Detroit, Michigan
[08:05] <xed_pentiumII> I can hear my Pentium II crying..
[08:05] <Cooner750> I'm in the south-west tip of Ohio. Reading, OH (Hamilton county; Cincinnati)
[08:05] <hondje> WOW sells in Michigan, and I can't get it?
[08:05] <xed_pentiumII> It'
[08:05] <xed_pentiumII> It's .. CRYING
[08:05] <ninwa> Ah, cool. I used to live in Columbus, OH
[08:05] <ninwa> hondje, They don't sell all over.
[08:05] <Cooner750> I can here a very noisy CD drive whenever I click something.... :/
[08:05] <ninwa> When I was in Ann Arbor I could only get comcast, for example.
[08:05] <zshakespeare> How do I make it use my soundcard as my main audio device instead of my webcam?
[08:05] <codemasternoob> how do i install a .tar.gz file after i download it?
[08:05] <hondje> Yeah, but I live in Colorado, that half defines 'West'
[08:06] <ninwa> Haha
[08:06] <ninwa> Nice.
[08:06] <Cooner750> lol
[08:06] <Cooner750> half-defines
[08:06] <hondje> well, can't forget montana ;-)
[08:06] <Cooner750> You have mountain time; hondje?
[08:06] <bob2> zshakespeare: blacklist the webcam module
[08:06] <hondje> yes
[08:06] <bob2> codemasternoob: you unpack and read the instructions
[08:06] <hondje> -7 time here
[08:06] <bob2> codemasternoob: tar -zxf foo.tar.gz
[08:06] <Cooner750> so it's what; 12:00 something there?
[08:06] <bob2> codemasternoob: what is it?
[08:06] <hondje> 0006
[08:06] <nekohayo> thanks bob2
[08:06] <codemasternoob> bob2 it is flashplayer 7
[08:07] <codemasternoob> where does it need to be extracted to?
[08:07] <Cooner750> lol. wow the fan in this laptop is LOUD
[08:07] <vHintswen> bbl eating :D
[08:07] <Cooner750> k
[08:07] <bob2> zshakespeare: please don't /msg me
[08:07] <Cooner750> it's a Toshiba 1625CDT
[08:07] <bob2> codemasternoob: it has no instructions?
[08:07] <xed_pentiumII> hey.. does anyone know if there's something I can use to connect a coaxial cable to an svideo port?
[08:07] <ninwa> codemasternoob, It shouldn't matter where it's extracted to, extract it and read the README or INSTALl instructions.
[08:07] <Cooner750> like a RF cable or Composite video?
[08:07] <ninwa> I venture to bet its an automated installe.r
[08:08] <jamesXuruo> Hello, Does anybody know how to disable Ctrl+Alt+F1~6 in Linux?
[08:08] <hondje> jamesXuruo: /etc/inittab
[08:08] <codemasternoob> kk thanks bob2 and ninwa
[08:08] <hondje> But why you'd want to do that is probably an interesting answer
[08:08] <bob2> jamesXuruo: explain what you mean
[08:08] <Cooner750> xed_pentiumII; like a RF cable; or composite video (that cable that has a yellow end)?
[08:08] <Cooner750> RF being cable line type
[08:08] <bob2> jamesXuruo: you want to not let people switch out of X? you don't want to run tty's?
[08:09] <ninwa> I think he wants the hotkeys to not work. So no switching out of X.
[08:09] <xed_pentiumII> Cooner750, What be this .. RF cable you speak of?
[08:09] <_rev_> evening all, how is everyone tonight?
[08:09] <jamesXuruo> I don't want others switch out of X
[08:09] <Cooner750> RF is like that cable line that comes through the wall and connected to the... cable box or TV...
[08:09] <xed_pentiumII> Cooner750, I thought there might be some sort of converter.... which I can plug in the coaxial ..into and plug the svideo into that converter..
[08:09] <xed_pentiumII> Cooner750, I'm a wishful thinker
[08:10] <Cooner750> Really old TVs like Zenith System IIIs only had RF inputs
[08:10] <iluciv> what is the command for running "scriptfilename.sh" file
[08:10] <bob2> jamesXuruo: man xorg.conf, DontVTSwitch is the option you want
[08:10] <ninwa> iluciv,  ./
[08:10] <xed_pentiumII> Cooner750, I'm not old enough to remember what you speak of.
[08:10] <Tweek> do 32bit ubuntu isos work on 64bit processors?
[08:10] <ninwa> ./[file] 
[08:10] <iluciv> its says ./ is a directory
[08:10] <ninwa> no space
[08:10] <jamesXuruo> Thx, if I use XFree86?
[08:10] <Cooner750> zenith system IIIs where just really old TVs (about 22 years ago)
[08:10] <_rev_> ./deply.sh for exampel
[08:10] <bob2> Tweek: if you mean "Will the i386 Ubuntu cd work on an amd64 machine?", yes.
[08:10] <Tweek> will it work like a 32bit machine?
[08:11] <Cooner750> anyway; You probably want to switch the s-video to composite (like that one with the yellow end on like; say a Playstation 2)
[08:11] <Cooner750> ?
[08:11] <ninwa> make sure the file is executable, chmod +x [filename]  if you need to make it so. Generally it probably is to begin with though.
[08:11] <bob2> Tweek: if you mean "i386" where yo usay "32bit", please say so
[08:11] <bob2> they're not the same thing
[08:11] <Tweek> will it work like an i386 machine?
[08:11] <RobNyc> how would ubuntu run on my celeron 633mhz 256mb pc ?
[08:11] <bob2> yes
[08:11] <RobNyc> is 512mb swap enough ?
[08:12] <Cooner750> I'm not old enough to remember Zenith IIIs; but I have one so I know what it's like.
[08:12] <ninwa> RobNyc, It would run fine.
[08:12] <xed_pentiumII> Cooner750, negative. I need to get TV onto this Pentium II as well..
[08:12] <bob2> an amd64 can work just like a i386
[08:12] <ninwa> version me if you'd like, I'm on a 577Mhz PIII 512 MB ram
[08:12] <bob2> RobNyc: should be enough
[08:12] <ninwa> and Ubuntu runs beautifuly
[08:12] <Tweek> bob2, 100% like an i386? so i am not dissapointed when i try :|
[08:12] <xed_pentiumII> Cooner750, this graphics card has an svideo port, so I'm thinking of a way to connect the cable directly to the card and get TV on to it.
[08:12] <Cooner750> xed_pentiumIII, could you /msg me. It's a little congested here
[08:12] <RobNyc> thanks
[08:12] <RobNyc> ninwa, u got 512mb of ram i got 256mb =\
[08:12] <bob2> Tweek: if you mean "Will it have all the software from the i386 port available?", then yes, since you ARE installing the i386 port.
[08:12] <iluciv> ninwa it just give me a new command prompt
[08:13] <Tweek> ok
[08:13] <bob2> if you install the amd64 port, it will ru nfaster, but you can't run some proprietary junk
[08:13] <_rev_> does anyone know if mod_rewrite is enabled on the default ubuntu apache2 installation?
[08:13] <ninwa> iluciv, I answered your question, that's how you run shellscripts.
[08:13] <ninwa> What the shellscript does, is another matter :)
[08:13] <Tweek> i'm running ubuntu's 64bit version now
[08:13] <ninwa> RobNyc, True enough, I think it'll be fine though.
[08:13] <Tweek> and it :<
[08:13] <iluciv> :)
[08:13] <Amaranth> _rev_: Try it and see?
[08:13] <RobNyc> ninwa, hope so :)
[08:13] <ninwa> RobNyc, Maybe try the livecd first?
[08:13] <bob2> Tweek: you mean "amd64" version
[08:13] <iluciv> well it did work now it doesn't I don't get it
[08:13] <RobNyc> ninwa, already installed lol
[08:13] <bob2> Tweek: and yes, some binary-only crap won't work on it
[08:14] <codemasternoob> ok readme says "From the command line, type ./flashplayer-installer to run the installer."  i tried tat and terminal says no such directory or file
[08:14] <RobNyc> Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-686 #1 Tue Jun 7 09:00:32 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:14] <ninwa> hah :)
[08:14] <bob2> Tweek: if you find other problems (like things crashing), please do file bugs
[08:14] <_rev_> Amaranth, im having problems gettign it working and wanted to ask the dumb question first :] 
[08:14] <RobNyc> installed the i686 kernel
[08:14] <RobNyc> but it seems the i386 maybe runs faster
[08:14] <Tweek> bob2, it is just that
[08:14] <pepsi> how do i tell how much ram i have?
[08:14] <RobNyc> i mean pc runs faster with i386 2.6.10 maybe than the i686 2.6.10 ?
[08:14] <Tweek> i can't get my floppy drive working, i have issues with almost every neccesary app
[08:14] <ninwa> codemasternoob, Make sure you're in the directory that you extracted flahsplayer to.
[08:14] <ninwa> ls to list the files and what directory you're currently in
[08:14] <bob2> Tweek: please do file bugs then
[08:14] <Cooner750> is vhintswen back yet?
[08:15] <codemasternoob> well please tell me how to do that i extracted to the desktop.. i have been running linux 2 hours please remember that
[08:15] <Tweek> bob2,
[08:15] <ninwa> Cooner750, I'm sure you'll hear him.
[08:15] <ninwa> codemasternoob, cd ~/Desktop
[08:15] <Tweek> i don't think they're errors
[08:15] <Tweek> i just think it has issues :\
[08:15] <ninwa> codemasternoob, It's alright, gotta start somewhere.
[08:15] <Kyynara> If I have a .zip file with older pre-compiled binaries of libpng, is it just to extract it in the right folders, or should I do something else also?
[08:15] <RobNyc> anyone seen difference between 2.6.10-i386 and 2.6.10-i686 ?
[08:15] <Cooner750> ninwa: k
[08:16] <bob2> Kyynara: do not install libraries from .zip files
[08:16] <crimsun> RobNyc: the latter has highmem support, for starters
[08:16] <lancer285> does multithreading count as 'dual processors for  linux-686-smp?
[08:16] <_rev_> lancer285, yes
[08:16] <vHintswen> back
[08:16] <lancer285> cool,
[08:16] <vHintswen> with a problem...
[08:16] <ninwa> codemasternoob, If you extracted it it's probably in a new folder.
[08:17] <vHintswen> won't let me enter anything as password
[08:17] <bob2> lancer285: if you mean "hyperthreading", yeah
[08:17] <RobNyc> just wondering seems like with i386 ubuntu runs faster than with i686 , my celeron is a i686 so hmm
[08:17] <lancer285> bob2 yeah, sorry (:
[08:17] <ninwa> So you'll have to traverse into it first, and then run ./flash-installer ... but seeing as you knew the name of the installer file, I bet you're already there
[08:17] <Cooner750> vhintswen.... is it the default 'ubuntu' user?
[08:17] <ninwa> codemasternoob, Did you know that you could install it using a package manager REAL easy, though? :)
[08:18] <vHintswen> ?
[08:19] <Cooner750> there is usually a default user created called ubuntu. It also has a default password; which I do not know; does anybody on here know it?
[08:19] <vHintswen> it asked me to enter full name of person using comp, username and a password
[08:19] <ninwa> codemasternoob, At the command prompt, make sure you're root, and type apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla (assuming you need it for Mozilla)
[08:19] <jamesXuruo> bob2, if my x is xfree86, does it also contain such item like DontVTSwitch?
[08:19] <Cooner750> vhintswen; is this in setup?
[08:19] <vHintswen> yeah
[08:19] <vHintswen> after it copied all the files
[08:19] <bob2> jamesXuruo: yes
[08:19] <_rev_> Cooner750, i would hope its a random default password
[08:19] <codemasternoob> well i tried that first but of course it was not extracted yet install is complete and it told me to remove a file from components directory
[08:19] <RobNyc> why hoary has xchat 2.4.1 =\
[08:19] <_rev_> otherwise that could be sloppy
[08:20] <RobNyc> no ubuntu(debian sid) ?
[08:20] <RobNyc> with xchat 2.4.3 or things more up to date
[08:20] <jamesXuruo> thx, i will try to find it out!!thx very much.
[08:20] <jamesXuruo> bob2, could you please tell me which file ?
[08:20] <Cooner750> vhintswen; tried leaving the password field blank?
[08:20] <ninwa> vHintswen, Oh boy.
[08:20] <bob2> jamesXuruo: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[08:20] <ninwa> It shouldnt've let you do that, hehe.
[08:21] <bob2> RobNyc: because that's what the available version was at freeze time 4 months ago?
[08:21] <_rev_> wow i must say ububtu is NICE... everything so far on my laptop is working flawlessly, including my cheap as linksys wifi card
[08:21] <RobNyc> bob2, true
[08:22] <RobNyc> =X
[08:22] <codemasternoob> how do i browse the components folder in moxilla?
[08:22] <RobNyc> Stable distros .. Mandriva, Fedora, Suse, Ubuntu,
[08:22] <RobNyc> i get it
[08:22] <vHintswen> ...?
[08:22] <ninwa> _rev_, Glad your wifi card is working out of the box :)(
[08:23] <ninwa> I had to use ndisswrapper for mine, but I love ubuntu also
[08:23] <Cooner750> vhintswen; what is it doing? asking? etc...
[08:23] <_rev_> ninwa, its freaking amazing, im speachless
[08:23] <ninwa> _rev_, I wasn't THAT excited
[08:23] <ninwa> but cool! :)
[08:23] <vHintswen> it wants me to enter the full name of person using computer, a username and a password. it won't let me type in the password bit
[08:23] <ninwa> It's great to enjoy the software you use, why run something you don't.
[08:23] <_rev_> hehe well im a pretty big noob so im still easily amused
[08:23] <ninwa> As Ubuntu's motto is
[08:24] <ninwa> "Linux for Human Beings"
[08:24] <Cooner750> vHintswen; the password area is greyed out?
[08:24] <vHintswen> no
[08:24] <_rev_> i mean ive gotten gentoo installed and working a few times, so im not totally clueless, but im still a windows user at heart for now
[08:24] <ninwa> Anyone want to play me in Network Gnibbles? :)
[08:24] <vHintswen> it looks the same as the others but when i try type nothing happens
[08:25] <_rev_> (as soon as bliz releases a linux WorldofWarcraft client ill drop windows :P )
[08:25] <spider> rrere
[08:25] <Cooner750> vhintswen; have you tried just name and username
[08:25] <vHintswen> it asks me for password
[08:25] <codemasternoob> please tell me how to navigate to he .mozilla folder in file browser
[08:25] <_rev_> but i do python and php dev work for a living so its kinda ironic
[08:25] <vHintswen> i tried leaving it blank and it says" it's blank try again" or something like that
[08:25] <ninwa> _rev_, Hehe, what server do you play on?
[08:26] <ninwa> <- level 60 rogue undead, Azgalor
[08:26] <ninwa> ;] 
[08:26] <_rev_> ninwa, 58 night elf rogue, crushridge
[08:26] <ninwa> awesome
[08:27] <ninwa> ghostshrouds look funny on Night Elfs though, ears pop right through :p
[08:27] <_rev_> would be dinging 59 tonight but im at my parents house for fathersday weekend
[08:27] <_rev_> yeah they do, and i still want one
[08:27] <ninwa> I hate when that happens
[08:27] <ninwa> Darn families!
[08:27] <shray> so word up holla back
[08:27] <shray> whats going on mah buntu's
[08:27] <ninwa> Hopefully you have better luck than me, took like 20 runs in BRD to get mine.
[08:27] <_rev_> werd
[08:27] <shray> da raadtzer is in the hizzouseeee
[08:28] <shray> so whats up with my 'buntu
[08:28] <vHintswen> got it :D it don't show you that you've entered anything when typing password
[08:28] <vHintswen> testing network or something now...
[08:28] <ninwa> Does linux have a "Worms Armmegeddan"-ish game? I wonder.
[08:28] <shray> i was chillin and this shizzle starts freekin outttt
[08:28] <_rev_> my problem is i have like 8 characters, so i take forever to level anything
[08:28] <shray> I was like what the fugg is up with this piece up in here
[08:28] <ninwa> _rev_, Hehe, I only have one. :)
[08:28] <shray> mah buntu was wylin out
[08:29] <codemasternoob> is there an official help room for ubuntu anywhere?
[08:29] <shray> I was like KDE, STFU YOU BITCH and DO AS I SAY
[08:29] <ninwa> I tried all the classes out in closed beta, decided on rogue.
[08:29] <Cooner750> shray; KDE is a pain
[08:29] <shray> Cooner750; you got some other bling i can switchover to?
[08:29] <ninwa> My step-brother has that problem, he must have 8 level 30 characters
[08:29] <_rev_> ninwa, 58rogue, 48pally, 30priest, 24hunter, 22druid, and i started a warrior last night
[08:29] <shray> i need that dirty sumthin sumthin
[08:29] <ninwa> _rev_, Jesus, haha
[08:29] <crimsun> let's keep the desktop wars outside, please.
[08:30] <shray> we aint warrin son
[08:30] <shray> we just discussin
[08:30] <shray> no instigatin happenin hurr
[08:30] <ninwa> You dont need to type out your accent.
[08:30] <ninwa> We can just imagine it...
[08:30] <codemasternoob> i know out of all of tese people, someone can tell me how to find the programs part of file browser
[08:30] <cdc> in Ubuntu is the concept of su removed?
[08:30] <_rev_> codemasternoob, go to a console
[08:30] <shray> mah suid is ZERO
[08:30] <shray> ZEE ROE
[08:30] <_rev_> codemasternoob, type updatedb
[08:30] <ninwa> heh
[08:30] <crimsun> cdc: removed, no.
[08:30] <_rev_> and wait a sec
[08:31] <ninwa> su is definitely not removed ;)
[08:31] <_rev_> codemasternoob, lemme know when the command is done runnin
[08:31] <cdc> crimsun, i read something about this sudo
[08:31] <_rev_> thats updating your locate database
[08:31] <_rev_> youll see why in a sec
[08:31] <crimsun> cdc: sudo is the encouraged tool
[08:31] <shray> so whats the deal with buntu and raadt
[08:32] <shray> what y'all think about the bsd news
[08:32] <codemasternoob> updateb: command not found
[08:32] <shray> and that mofugga named forbes
[08:32] <crimsun> cdc: there's a faq on the Ubuntu wiki regarding 'root'
[08:32] <_rev_> updatedb
[08:32] <ninwa> Anyone here order ubuntu on cd? Ordered mine a few days ago, wondering about how long it takes.
[08:32] <cdc> crimsun, i ve got some packs of Ubuntu 5.0.4 CDS just deciding whether to go for it or no i am currently using Sarge
[08:32] <cdc> crimsun, is Ubuntu 5.0.4 better than Sarge .
[08:32] <crimsun> cdc: give Ubuntu a spin
[08:32] <_rev_> update db <- as one word
[08:32] <crimsun> cdc: "better" is highly subjective; try it yourself
[08:33] <thechitowncubs> Does anyone know where i can get the ubuntu artwork color palettes, and stuff
[08:33] <hondje> shray: de Raadt is hating because *BSD is dying
[08:33] <thechitowncubs> the wiki upgrade broke a lot of stuff
[08:33] <shray> hondje: are you kidding me
[08:33] <cdc> crimsun,coz what i run presently(sarge) is the one that i installed one year back
[08:33] <shray> that fly cat speaks the truths man
[08:33] <shray> he Is a RADICAL
[08:33] <hondje> shray: The handwriting is on the wall, man
[08:33] <shray> buntu needs to go that way
[08:33] <shray> whats wrong wichu fool, FREE YOUR MIND
[08:34] <Cooner750> shray; didnt ubuntu come with Gnome?
[08:35] <_rev_> yeah kubuntu is the kde distro
[08:35] <shray> Cooner750 I tried that piece but all hell came loose and I got kbuntu
[08:35] <shray> hells yeah
[08:35] <shray> iwas like wtf is going on with this booty
[08:35] <Cooner750> oh.... I've never used KDE except in Slax; and it sucked.... :(
[08:35] <shray> so how many of yall like Kerry
[08:35] <cdc> is it possible to install KDE in ubuntu later on ?
[08:36] <shray> and how many of yall like bush
[08:36] <_rev_> i used kde back when i used mandrake, till i used gentoo and had to get it compiled lol
[08:36] <hondje> cdc: yes
[08:36] <crimsun> cdc: yes, install kubuntu-desktop
[08:36] <cdc> can i make Ubuntu customizable one ?
[08:36] <thechitowncubs> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork
[08:36] <thechitowncubs> none of the linux to the logos or palettes work
[08:36] <shray> because I think yall kerry folk are stupiid. STUPID I TELL YA
[08:36] <cdc> i am very much used to Sarge so i need the same functionality in fact :-
[08:36] <cdc> crimsun, in that case let me give Ubuntu a try and will be back
[08:36] <cdc> on with that
[08:36] <cdc> lets see how it goes :-)
[08:36] <meng> how do you restore grub?
[08:37] <thechitowncubs> meng
[08:37] <_rev_> shray, spoken like a true bush supporter
[08:37] <thechitowncubs> what is wrong?
[08:37] <meng> i nuked my bootloader after reinstalling windows xp
[08:37] <thechitowncubs> sudo grub-install hd0,0
[08:37] <thechitowncubs> i just did that
[08:37] <meng> i can't access my ubuntu
[08:38] <thechitowncubs> do what i said but substitute the hd0,0 with your hd and partition number
[08:38] <meng> i can't access Ubuntu at all, unless i use a live cd
[08:38] <thechitowncubs> Gotcha
[08:38] <thechitowncubs> Here's what you have to do
[08:39] <thechitowncubs> boot up the install cd
[08:39] <thechitowncubs> go through a normal install until the partition step, then hit go back and then select execute a shell, from there, mount your partition and then chroot into it
[08:39] <thechitowncubs> do you understand that?
[08:39] <thechitowncubs> or do i have to go into more depth?
[08:40] <crimsun> give him a walk-through, thechitowncubs
[08:40] <jamesXuruo> Thx!! bob2, i think i know how to do it. thx!!
[08:40] <lancer285> can someone help me w/ my sound problem? when I run Music Player, it says that the device is in use
[08:40] <xed_liveubuntu> Cooner750, hooraaaa
[08:40] <meng> a walk though would be nice
[08:40] <jamesXuruo> you may try to use: fuser /dev/dsp
[08:40] <lancer285> okay
[08:40] <jamesXuruo> and check who is use /dev/dsp
[08:41] <lancer285> /dev/dsp:             8335
[08:41] <lancer285> that's what came back
[08:41] <lancer285> is that the pid?
[08:41] <jamesXuruo> ps -ef |grep 8335, you can know which process
[08:41] <jamesXuruo> yes
[08:41] <lancer285> 1000      8335     1  0 00:20 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps
[08:42] <lancer285> should I just kill that process?
[08:42] <jamesXuruo> ok , do you use gnome or kde?
[08:42] <lancer285> gnome
[08:42] <thechitowncubs> To mount a partition once you are successfully in the shell, you have to make a directory, for example: mkdir /mnt/ubuntu, then mount your root partition, assuming its /dev/hda1, do mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt./ubuntu, then after that chroot into that directory with this command: chroot /mnt/ubuntu, from there you can do grub-install hd0,0 (assuming /dev/hda1 is the partition ubuntu is on)
[08:42] <jamesXuruo> gnome is using esd...
[08:42] <thechitowncubs> write it down :)
[08:42] <lancer285> ah ha
[08:42] <jamesXuruo> you may start some program playing sound.
[08:42] <kiwibird> um anyone know when firefox gets updated on hoary? seems weird that it's not on 1.0.4, thought the newer versions would be more secure..
[08:42] <jamesXuruo> check it.
[08:43] <crimsun> lancer285: make sure gstreamer is configured to use esd for output: System>Preferences>Multimedia Systems Selector>Default audio sink>Esound
[08:43] <meng> is there any difference with SATA drives?
[08:43] <thechitowncubs> yes
[08:43] <pythonpadawan> thechitowncubs, adding that to my cheatsheet, thx bro
[08:43] <thechitowncubs> i believe its /dev/sda1
[08:43] <dr_willis> the 1.0.3 versun has the security updates i think kiwibird   but for some reason they havent gotten the verison # bumpped up.. not sure what the whole story is.
[08:43] <thechitowncubs> hehe, no problem python
[08:44] <kiwibird> oki.. humf.. =P
[08:44] <meng> thechitowncubs: is it possible under sata to place the bootloader somewhere else?
[08:44] <lancer285> okay, that works, but how do I make gnome use oss or alsa?
[08:44] <thechitowncubs> meng: what do you mean, and what is your goal?
[08:45] <crimsun> kiwibird: it's not 1.0.4, because it doesn't have the non-security patches applied. 1.0.2 + security fixes is closer to its version.
[08:45] <meng> i was thinking if the next time i reinstall windows, so i don't remove my bootloader
[08:45] <lancer285> I'm trying to get Cedega to work, and the sound only uses oss or alsa
[08:45] <cory_> what program do ya'll use to burn audio cds?
[08:45] <jamesXuruo> gnome has its own sound architect. esd is besed on alsa or oss.
[08:45] <vinux> gnome-baker cory_
[08:45] <vHintswen> stage 1 compleet
[08:45] <lancer285> so it should all work together?
[08:45] <vHintswen> remove cd and reboot...
[08:45] <jamesXuruo> so, if you want to use alsa, you may try alsaconf, it may help you .
[08:46] <thechitowncubs> meng: not exactly sure, but I think you can set your bios to decide which hard drive to boot off of thus allowing you to put it on different hard drive
[08:46] <thechitowncubs> s
[08:46] <cory_> does that come with gnome vinux?
[08:46] <lancer285> okay thanks jamesX
[08:46] <meng> thanks, would try it out
[08:46] <vHintswen> how long will stae 2 take aprox?
[08:46] <jamesXuruo> apt-cache search alsaconf, you may know how to deal with it.
[08:46] <Tyche> how would I insntall pw if I do not have it?
[08:46] <vinux> cory_, no you have to apt-get it
[08:46] <microhaxo> guys, can i use the package manager to update my kernel?
[08:46] <vinux> cory_, I think it's gnomebaker one word
[08:46] <Tyche> how can I install apt-get on a machine that doesn't have it?
[08:46] <cory_> ok thx
[08:47] <vinux> cory_, np
[08:47] <thechitowncubs> microhaxo: what up dude, I saw you on neowin
[08:47] <kiwibird> ah ok
[08:47] <thechitowncubs> microhaxo: and yes you can use it to update your kernel
[08:47] <microhaxo> yea i kno
[08:47] <microhaxo> lol
[08:47] <microhaxo> search
[08:47] <microhaxo> kernel?
[08:47] <thechitowncubs> but make sure install the correct libc6
[08:48] <microhaxo> eh
[08:48] <thechitowncubs> and make sure you install the module package for that kernel
[08:48] <microhaxo> wanna walk me through
[08:48] <microhaxo> ?
[08:48] <thechitowncubs> not another one :P
[08:48] <microhaxo> lol
[08:48] <pythonpadawan> so does anyone know anything about getting my ipod40gig to work with my magical ubuntu system?
[08:48] <xed_liveubuntu> Anyone know how to use gparted ...?
[08:48] <xed_liveubuntu> Anyone know how to use gparted ...?
[08:49] <cory_> vinux: after gnomebaker is installed where to i go to run it?
[08:49] <pythonpadawan> just point me in the right direction and ill do the research
[08:49] <thechitowncubs> xed_liveubuntu: I do
[08:49] <thechitowncubs> what are you trying to do?
[08:49] <thechitowncubs> you can't modify an active partition though
[08:49] <thechitowncubs> I'm assuming thats your problem
[08:49] <vinux> Accessories cory_
[08:49] <cory_> oh ok thx!
[08:50] <vinux> np cory_
[08:50] <xed_liveubuntu> thechitowncubs, trying to create a partition in my hdd so I can install another OS onto it..
[08:50] <thechitowncubs> xed: lol, i just did the same
[08:50] <xed_liveubuntu> then you can help, yes?
[08:50] <thechitowncubs> do you have ubuntu install only as of now
[08:50] <thechitowncubs> yep
[08:50] <xed_liveubuntu> thechitowncubs, yes
[08:51] <thechitowncubs> ok
[08:51] <xed_liveubuntu> thechitowncubs, except.. I'm running off of the livecd right now
[08:51] <thechitowncubs> are you trying to resize the ext3 partition?
[08:51] <xed_liveubuntu> There are no other partitions, thechitowncubs.
[08:51] <thechitowncubs> do you have free space on your drive?
[08:51] <xed_liveubuntu> Yes, enough for another OS.
[08:52] <thechitowncubs> Then why are you using gparted?
[08:52] <xed_liveubuntu> I don't know.. Cooner750 suggested it.
[08:53] <xed_liveubuntu> I haven't even used it yet.
[08:53] <_linuxAS_> hi
[08:53] <xed_liveubuntu> thechitowncubs, do you have another suggestion?
[08:53] <thechitowncubs> Ok, well, if you are installing winblows, then you can just use that to partition the free space and keep your ubuntu system intact, but you will have to rebuild the grub bootloader
[08:53] <thechitowncubs> with my suggestion above
[08:54] <thechitowncubs> usually any os comes with its own partitioner
[08:55] <xed_liveubuntu> thechitowncubs, but.. that would mean I have to format, install windows first, then install ubuntu ...?
[08:55] <dr_willis> a live cd with qt_parted or some other parted variant comes in handy.
[08:55] <thechitowncubs> No
[08:55] <thechitowncubs> you can just use the free space for windows
[08:55] <thechitowncubs> if you have some
[08:56] <xed_liveubuntu> Hmm.. maybe I said something in the wrong sense.
[08:56] <xed_liveubuntu> All the free space is already partitioned as ext3.
[08:56] <Frederick> guys i got a fat partition at /dev/hda5 how do I add it to fstab properly?
[08:56] <xed_liveubuntu> I need to use that "empty" or "free" space.. as another partition.
[08:57] <dr_willis> Frederick,  deoenbds on what you mean properly. :P want all users to be able to read/write it? one user? none?
[08:57] <Frederick> dr_willis: all users
[08:58] <thechitowncubs> xed: ok, you need to resize the partition, this is a bit tricky, but it works.
[08:58] <Tweek> k3b is sexy :)
[08:58] <thechitowncubs> http://www.sysresccd.org/
[08:58] <Frederick> look: /dev/hda5       /mnt/fat-c      v-fat   rw,user,noauto  0       0
[08:58] <thechitowncubs> xed: use that
[08:58] <Choubaka> Frederick: vfat
[08:58] <Choubaka> not v-fat
[08:58] <thechitowncubs> and then use parted to resize the ext3 partition
[08:58] <dr_willis> Frederick,  amazeing that question gets asked a dozen times  a week. lol..   also you may want to set the umask=002 * (i think)* option.
[08:58] <thechitowncubs> its pretty easy actually
[08:59] <thechitowncubs> you could also use qtparted
[08:59] <thechitowncubs> which is a gui to parted
[08:59] <thechitowncubs> but the CMD line versino worked for em
[08:59] <dr_willis> i beluve that 'gparted' is also anotehr gui to parted.
[08:59] <thechitowncubs> the ubuntu live cd seems to use the hard drive, which isn't allowed for resizing
[08:59] <Frederick> mount: unknown filesystem type 'v-fat'
[08:59] <Choubaka> Frederick: I told you, "vfat"
[08:59] <ivoks> vfat
[08:59] <xed_liveubuntu> thechitowncubs, you lost me.
[08:59] <ivoks> not v-fat
[09:00] <thechitowncubs> download system rescue cd
[09:00] <thechitowncubs> and boot that up
[09:00] <thechitowncubs> that will get you in an enviornment to where you can resize
[09:00] <karabi> hello, world
[09:01] <ivoks> print "Hello, karabi!\n";
[09:01] <Frederick> working :)
[09:01] <Frederick> dont doesnt kubunto has kdevelop?
[09:01] <karabi> haha
[09:01] <karabi> can anyone help me figure out as to why my ubuntu system is slow?
[09:01] <thechitowncubs> ivoks: do you remember helping me get my intel HDA working?
[09:02] <thechitowncubs> well I have another problem with that same macheine
[09:02] <ivoks> thechitowncubs: :)
[09:02] <jesse1> karabi: maybe u need better hardware
[09:02] <xed_liveubuntu> I suddenly don't like the idea of this system rescue disc, thechitowncubs.. =(
[09:02] <karabi> no no
[09:02] <karabi> i have 750mhz
[09:02] <karabi> 700 ram
[09:02] <ivoks> :)
[09:02] <ivoks> 750mhz?
[09:02] <karabi> but..
[09:02] <thechitowncubs> I configured X on my computer with my monitor, and when they brought the comp home and used their montior, the sync ranges were out of sync
[09:03] <Choubaka> 750 MHz is just fine.
[09:03] <ivoks> thechitowncubs: that's normal
[09:03] <Frederick> dont doesnt kubunto has kdevelop?
[09:03] <Whistler> Choubaka i agree i have 710mhz and its enougt
[09:03] <Whistler> Choubaka i agree i have 710mhz and its enought
[09:03] <Whistler> =] 
[09:03] <Choubaka> Frederick: Your English is weird.
[09:03] <ivoks> thechitowncubs: every monitor has it's own sync ranges
[09:03] <thechitowncubs> then i tried to get them to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg over the phone a bunch of times, even did it on my system while talking them through it, but now X won't even start !
[09:04] <Choubaka> Whistler: Heh. But please don't correct typos that way :/
[09:04] <thechitowncubs> is there anything that I could get them to read to figure out the error more specifically?
[09:04] <Whistler> Choubaka pl
[09:04] <ivoks> thechitowncubs: you are tring to give tech support for ubuntu users/buyers? :)
[09:04] <Whistler> Choubaka ok
[09:04] <Frederick> doesnt kubunto has kdevelop?
[09:04] <xed_liveubuntu> So.. what was this qt_parted thing?
[09:04] <Frederick> Choubaka: double typo
[09:04] <Whistler> srry
[09:04] <thechitowncubs> ivoks: ya :)
[09:05] <xed_liveubuntu> dr_willis, you there?
[09:05] <Choubaka> Anyways, hm
[09:05] <ivoks> thechitowncubs: so, we are telling you what to do, and you collect money? :)
[09:05] <Choubaka> Frederick: it's there.
[09:05] <cory_> gnome baker is pretty damn cool
[09:05] <jesse1> any1 know where i can get a memory editor for ubuntu?
[09:05] <Choubaka> Frederick: kdevelop3
[09:05] <thechitowncubs> ivoks: no, i'm doing it for free :P
[09:05] <thechitowncubs> honestly
[09:05] <cory_> one thing i've noticed from the switch from windows to linux is this shit is free and works just as well..
[09:06] <ivoks> i bet you do :)
[09:06] <thechitowncubs> I'm just trying to get ubuntu to as many people as possible
[09:06] <xed_liveubuntu> thechitowncubs, tell me how I can resize this ext3 partition.. and have some unpartitioned space to isntall windows 98 on to..
[09:06] <xed_liveubuntu> install*
[09:06] <thechitowncubs> You are going from ubuntu to win98 for what reason?
[09:06] <xed_liveubuntu> thechitowncubs, not going from.. just need it so I can have TV on this PC in another room..
[09:06] <Choubaka> jesse1: memory editor?
[09:06] <Choubaka> cory_: and there's no viruses.
[09:07] <ivoks> thechitowncubs: big diff beteween monitors? in inches?
[09:07] <xed_liveubuntu> thechitowncubs, I doubt I'll be able to find a driver or something for ubuntu which'll get me TV onto it..
[09:07] <thechitowncubs> ivoks: 19 to 17
[09:07] <Frederick> Choubaka:  cant find the package
[09:07] <Choubaka> Frederick: You need universe enabled.
[09:07] <ivoks> thechitowncubs: and now, X won't even start?
[09:07] <jesse1> choubaka: yes to edit the values of data in programs a "Windows" program that does this is art money
[09:07] <thechitowncubs> ya
[09:07] <ivoks> thechitowncubs: and error is?
[09:07] <thechitowncubs> it configured the sync ranges right, i looked online
[09:07] <cary> pfp, you around?
[09:07] <thechitowncubs> the error is no screens found
[09:07] <Choubaka> jesse1: hm
[09:07] <ivoks> lol
[09:08] <thechitowncubs> ya, i know
[09:08] <Choubaka> That sounds like a security violation :|
[09:08] <ivoks> you screwed xorg.conf
[09:08] <thechitowncubs> :o
[09:08] <Frederick> Choubaka: where is that?
[09:08] <ivoks> it can't find monitor or video card
[09:08] <pfp> cary: yep
[09:08] <thechitowncubs> and your advice is...
[09:08] <cary> pfp, sweet. someone i sort of know!
[09:08] <ivoks> thechitowncubs: dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[09:08] <thechitowncubs> -plow, thats interesting
[09:08] <thechitowncubs> lol
[09:08] <Choubaka> Frederick: See ubuntuguide.org -> adding repositories or something
[09:08] <cory_> um does anybody else have problems with gnome baker when using a linux kernel greater then 2.5?
[09:08] <pfp> cary: :) everything ok?
[09:08] <thechitowncubs> and what does that do
[09:08] <cary> pfp, whats going on. how are things. or something
[09:09] <cary> pfp, life wise yeah, linux wise, i have some issues -=)
[09:09] <ivoks> thechitowncubs: thells dpkg to ask questions with low priority
[09:09] <microhaxo> yo
[09:09] <cary> pfp, in the mood to try to field some quetions?
[09:09] <ivoks> thechitowncubs: instead of high, wich is default on ubuntu
[09:09] <pfp> cary: in the mood yes, in the condition, almost - hit me :)
[09:09] <thechitowncubs> i'm a little confused, what does the priority affect?
[09:10] <ivoks> thechitowncubs: it will ask for sync ranges
[09:10] <ivoks> thechitowncubs: what the diff is?
[09:10] <thechitowncubs> ya, but we already did the reconfigure without -plow about 5 times
[09:10] <xed_liveubuntu> thechitowncubs, can you help me with..changing the size of this partition and creating an unpartition space which i could install windows 98 on?
[09:10] <thechitowncubs> xed: i tried
[09:10] <ivoks> thechitowncubs: well, if you set high priority to dpkg, it will ask you only the questions he can't resolve by it's self...
[09:10] <cary> pfp, hah. well i guess i should boot into lnx to better figure out my questions. one is man..my audio BLows. it works fine in theory, but is very quite and if sounds are repeating they keep fading lower and lower.
[09:11] <cary> pfp, i found a patch on some website, but its basically raw code. its a kernel patch and i have no idea at all what to do with it
[09:11] <thechitowncubs> ivoks: ok, i'll keep it in mind, anything else we can try?
[09:11] <thechitowncubs> just in case...
[09:11] <ivoks> thechitowncubs: then it asked you for your monitor, to choose, simple, medium or hard
[09:11] <ria> hay
[09:11] <ivoks> thechitowncubs: it's enough to choose simple, and then choos 17" monitor
[09:12] <xed_liveubuntu> thechitowncubs, tried..?
[09:12] <pfp> cary: sounds very strange... (no pun intended), probably a driver problem like you thought
[09:12] <xed_liveubuntu> thechitowncubs, system rescue disk?
[09:12] <thechitowncubs> ya, boot that up and use parted
[09:12] <xed_liveubuntu> oh..
[09:12] <thechitowncubs> its easy
[09:12] <thechitowncubs> boot it up
[09:12] <xed_liveubuntu> got to burn it and stuff, eh?
[09:12] <jesse1> Choubaka: i found a program that does that allows me to edit the memory but i have no idea how to install it the link is http://sourceforge.net/projects/qgspider
[09:12] <Star> hy
[09:12] <thechitowncubs> thats what i did
[09:12] <pfp> cary: patching the kernel is not very difficult, do you know what version teh patch is for?
[09:12] <cary> pfp, and also..hha...i started trying to mess with installing MOL, and i navigated to something like etc/blah/somefile and i tried to open it to modify a couple of lines just to see if i could do it and i tried "ed" to edit. is that at all right?
[09:12] <xed_liveubuntu> then I should probably do the burning and stuff on my laptop..
[09:13] <cary> pfp, i know basically nothing. i THINK it is for hoary 5.04, which is what i am running
[09:13] <cary> pfp, i have no idea where to even start on patching the kernel though
[09:13] <pfp> cary: hmm a bit vague eh?
[09:13] <cary> pfp, hold. let  me find the dilly
[09:13] <microhaxo> Guys
[09:14] <cary> actually, im going to boot into linux, then find it
[09:14] <cary> be right back
[09:14] <pfp> cary: hoary/5.0.4 is ubuntu's release number, but linux's (= the kernel's) release is a separate thing
[09:14] <microhaxo> how can i make an image my background?
[09:14] <pfp> cary: aight
[09:14] <microhaxo> doi have to save it?
[09:14] <cary> ahhhh
[09:14] <cary> pfp, for reference, where woudl i find that info?
[09:14] <jesse1> in firefox just right click then push set as background
[09:14] <cary> pfp, (so i can come packing when i come back)
[09:14] <thechitowncubs> I'm off, thanks for the suggestions ivoks, hope i helped meng, and good luck xed_liveubuntu
[09:14] <pfp> cary: type 'uname -r' in a shell
[09:15] <cary> pfp, cool. brb
[09:15] <pfp> cary: altough i can tell that your hoary has kernel 2.6.10-something
[09:15] <pfp> bah
[09:15] <thoreauputic> thechitowncubs: try saying "no" to the framebuffer queation when you do the -plow thing
[09:15] <xed_liveubuntu> I'm now sad =(
[09:15] <jesse1> Choubaka: i found a program that does that allows me to edit the memory but i have no idea how to install it the link is http://sourceforge.net/projects/qgspider
[09:18] <vHintswen> geeze it takes forever to install...
[09:18] <schasi> huh?
[09:18] <vHintswen> Ubuntu takes forever to install
[09:18] <Jimbob> jesse1, Choubaka: There should be a readme or INSTALL file in the download archive
[09:19] <cary> pfp, 2.6.10-5
[09:19] <schasi> vHintswen: Where does it take especially long? And compared to what?
[09:19] <cary> the kernal patches are for 2.6.11.8
[09:20] <vHintswen> compared to a snail traveling 1K
[09:20] <mikas> the installer should have some kind of progress bar.. but this is a problem of apt..
[09:20] <Choubaka> jesse1: Ah
[09:20] <vHintswen> it's after u take out the cd
[09:20] <Choubaka> it's a source package.
[09:20] <vHintswen> and it reboots
[09:20] <cary> pfp, the url for these patches is this:  http://seehuhn.de/comp/powerbook/index
[09:20] <mikas> i hate it when you don't know how much of installation is done
[09:20] <cary> pfp, is there some need i have of updating my kernel?
[09:21] <jesse1> jimbob: no instructions on how to install in the readme
[09:21] <Choubaka> jesse1: download it, extract it, cd to dir, run ./configure and sudo checkinstall (make sure you have checkinstall installed)
[09:21] <microhaxo> guys
[09:21] <microhaxo> how do i change the icons in gnome?
[09:21] <jesse1> ok
[09:21] <pfp> cary: yep, you need to get the source code, apply that patch, compile & install
[09:21] <cary> pfp, no idea how to do that
[09:22] <pfp> cary: hopefuly you will soon
[09:22] <cary> pfp, i just changed my audio thing to alsa instead of oss and it started out okay, but it sounds muted and crappy now. like..its maxed out but so soft i can barely hear it
[09:22] <thoreauputic> microhaxo: if you have an icon theme, drag it onto the themes dialog or put it in ~/.icons
[09:22] <vHintswen> geeze i could walk down the stairs to ground floor and back and ubuntu will still be installing!
[09:22] <cary> pfp, i am at your mercy, if you feel so inclinded as to help me
[09:22] <pfp> cary: suresure .)
[09:23] <cary> pfp, the first like..half second of the song sounds fine, then it starts sounding more or less like the ass of a mad bear
[09:23] <pfp> cary: so, you need the kernel sources, and you need a .tar.gz of those most probably, since ubuntu only carries 2.6.10
[09:23] <pfp> lol
[09:23] <pfp> less'see
[09:23] <cary> pfp, is there some linux site i need to find that will have this kernel?
[09:24] <pfp> cary: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ , take 2.6.11.8
[09:24] <jesse1> Choubaka:  that didnt work i got an error
[09:24] <mikas> cary, have you checked alsamixer's levels?
[09:24] <pfp> cary: about 35 MB
[09:24] <Choubaka> jesse1: you're missing some -dev files then
[09:25] <r0d> cary, do any apt-cache search for the kernel sources
[09:25] <cary> mikas, where does one find the alsalevels?
[09:25] <pfp> type alsamixer in a termina
[09:25] <mikas> cary, type 'alsamixer' in a terminal
[09:25] <cary> r0d, is that under synaptic?
[09:25] <jesse1> Choubaka: how would i find out what dev files i need?
[09:25] <r0d> cary, like 'apt-cache search kernel source 2.6' yea or synaptic
[09:25] <xed_bleh> wtf
[09:26] <pfp> cary: that's equivalent to searching w/ synaptic
[09:26] <Choubaka> jesse1: well, what is it missing?
[09:26] <cary> ahh
[09:26] <Choubaka> configure should fail at some point
[09:26] <Choubaka> checking for a particular library
[09:26] <microhaxo> whats the best icon set?
[09:26] <pfp> cary: aah, ubuntu carries sources for 2.6.11 too, great
[09:26] <microhaxo> in your opinion
[09:26] <cary> r0d, i see the stuff, it seems treble and bass are all the way down? i still dont get why it sounds fine at first then fades
[09:27] <cary> pfp, in english/linuxdummie
[09:27] <jesse1> Choubaka:  make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.        then it just says installation failed
[09:27] <vHintswen> it's setting up all sorts of stuff
[09:27] <vHintswen> no progress bar...
[09:27] <xed> gooood
[09:27] <vHintswen> i dunno how long it's gonna take
[09:27] <r0d> cary,  i dont know your hole situation but use 'amixer' to see your volume settings
[09:27] <pfp> cary: cancel the kernel.org d/l, also, it's worth playing with alsamixer first, if that doesn't help, we'll compile a kernel
[09:28] <thoreauputic> jesse1: did you run "make" first?
[09:28] <cary> canceling dl now
[09:28] <r0d> cary,  how old is your box?
[09:28] <cary> pfp, so i should search for the kernel in apt-cache?
[09:28] <pfp> just kick me if i get too much into jargon
[09:28] <jesse1> thoreauputic: hmmm i guess not
[09:28] <cary> r0d, about a year. 1.5ghz powerbook
[09:28] <hondje> mmm, jargon
[09:29] <thoreauputic> jesse1: that might be an idea :)
[09:29] <r0d> apple!!! yikes lol
[09:29] <jesse1> thoreauputic: yes it sounds like a good idea
[09:29] <thoreauputic> heheh
[09:29] <Choubaka> jesse1: oh, did you run ./configure ?
[09:29] <Choubaka> in the source directory?
[09:29] <xed_liveubuntu> while I wait for my download to finish
[09:29] <pfp> cary: yep, you can get the kernel sources with apt
[09:29] <xed_liveubuntu> ..who wants to help me with this sound not working issue?
[09:29] <cary> pfp, nowi dont knwo where i am looking for this kernel
[09:30] <jesse1> choubaka: yes i did and trying the make command gave me this error make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[09:30] <cary> pfp, apt..is that through synaptic?
[09:30] <pfp> cary: you need package called linux-source-2.6.11
[09:30] <Choubaka> jesse1: weird
[09:30] <TokenBad> I still can't seem to figure out why people can't upload to the ftp I setup
[09:30] <r0d> cary,  im not sure what apple uses for sound. as far as hardware
[09:30] <cary> dousn rhAR
[09:30] <thoreauputic> jesse1: did configure spit out any errors?
[09:30] <pfp> cary: yep, synaptic is (the easiest) frontend for APT
[09:30] <cary> wow.
[09:30] <cary> pfp, found it
[09:30] <cary> pfp, marking it now
[09:30] <Choubaka> jesse1: and the configure succeeded?
[09:31] <jesse1> hmmmm
[09:31] <Choubaka> it compiles fine for me :/
[09:31] <cary> pfp, woohoo..its downloading
[09:31] <cary> r0d, (thank you as well, btw)
[09:31] <Choubaka> wait, no it doesn't ;P
[09:31] <pfp> r0d: i think he has a known problem which needs a kernel patch, http://seehuhn.de/comp/powerbook/index#sound-patch
[09:31] <jesse1> choubaka:  error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[09:31] <pfp> r0d: or that's what he said :)
[09:31] <r0d> pfp,  kool kool
[09:31] <cary> r0d, so now that i can see alsamixer junk, how can i adjust the settings?
[09:31] <Choubaka> jesse1: :|
[09:32] <Choubaka> I have no idea
[09:32] <thoreauputic> jesse1: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:32] <xed_liveubuntu> brb
[09:32] <r0d> cary, amixer you can see adjust your settings
[09:33] <jesse1> whiles that downloading ill brb
[09:33] <cary> pfp, okay i thoguht i applied the new kernel but terminal still says 2.6.10.5
[09:33] <cary> pfp (i applied, then reloaded everything)
[09:33] <r0d> hehe cary
[09:33] <r0d> cary,  you have to compile bro
[09:33] <pfp> cary: there's still work to be done... have you ever compiled software / are you familiar with that concept?
[09:34] <cary> r0d, i...i am very very dumb.
[09:34] <r0d> cary,  you patched the source first right
[09:34] <pfp> i think he just dl'd the src
[09:34] <cary> pfp, many many moons ago i programmed in like...VB. i compiled there, but it was all visual
[09:34] <r0d> cary,  no your new. everyone was new
[09:34] <cary> pfp r0d, i downloaded and applied the thing in synaptic
[09:34] <cary> so..whatever that means
[09:35] <r0d> cary, vb is an interpet language. u dont compile:)
[09:35] <TokenBad> thats the file for the mounting of drives in ubuntu?
[09:35] <TokenBad> what even
[09:35] <pfp> i think you can make windows .exe's with VB
[09:35] <cary> r0d, well, it said "compling" so..thats all i know. as for actual code..i know nothing
[09:35] <microhaxo> Guys
[09:35] <thoreauputic> TokenBad: /etc/fstab
[09:35] <cary> pfp, yeah, thats what i used it for. .exes for windows, back in the day
[09:36] <microhaxo> how do i change the size of my gnome toolbar deal, i want it bigger?
[09:36] <r0d> i code in vb and vb6 isnt a "true" compling lang
[09:36] <r0d> vb.net is
[09:36] <heimdall> hello !!!
[09:36] <thoreauputic> microhaxo: right click, properties
[09:36] <xed> how do I change the screen resolution in gnome?
[09:36] <pfp> ah
[09:36] <TokenBad> thanks thoreauputic
[09:36] <r0d> but thats the past right cary;)
[09:37] <microhaxo> that doesnt change the logo apearancE?
[09:37] <pfp> cary: do you have that 010-sound.patch file around?
[09:37] <microhaxo> im, thinkin of KDM gnome
[09:37] <microhaxo> arnt i?
[09:37] <cary> well i have no file. its just code on this website, pfp
[09:37] <ompaul> xed system preferences screen resolution
[09:37] <cary> http://seehuhn.de/comp/powerbook/index
[09:37] <HawkeVIPER> r0d: one could argue whether VB is code or script
[09:38] <cary> r0d, i never did figure out how to modify anything in the alsa settings thig
[09:38] <pfp> cary: yep, i read that page..  you should save it to a file, eg. in your home directory
[09:38] <cary> pfp, the code? like, a text doc?
[09:38] <microhaxo> how do i get that launcher that people have with the icons that get big when you go over them?
[09:38] <cary> or like right click and save
[09:38] <pfp> cary: yep, it's plain text
[09:39] <thoreauputic> microhaxo: probably gdesklets
[09:39] <pfp> cary: or right-click on the link -> save as, end result is same
[09:39] <cary> ahhh
[09:39] <cary> it is a .patch. i see now
[09:39] <HawkeVIPER> microhaxo: buy a mac?
[09:39] <vHintswen> OMG now it gotta download more stuff!
[09:39] <cyphase> hey everyone
[09:39] <microhaxo> haha
[09:39] <HawkeVIPER> =P
[09:39] <xed> ompaul: says YOU
[09:39] <cary> oaky so that is saved
[09:39] <xed> ompaul: I'm on.. old school..
[09:39] <vHintswen> i already have ubuntu and i haven't even gotten into it yet
[09:39] <r0d> HawkeVIPER,  I would say script more than true code. the only traces of vb6 now are what are used for scripting. (vbscript)
[09:39] <xed> as someone said earlier..
[09:40] <xed> oh dear GOD my face hurts so so much
[09:40] <Razor-X> damn it! Klipper doesen't work with C-M-v
[09:40] <Razor-X> stupid Klipper -_-
[09:40] <HawkeVIPER> r0d: indeed
[09:40] <jesse1> ok i tryed it and i got a heap load of errors
[09:40] <HawkeVIPER> I hear vb.net is pretty good
[09:40] <HawkeVIPER> haven't layed my hands on it as yet
[09:40] <cary> r0d, i see a visual represetation of my levels (i guess) on alsamixer, but dont knwo how to change this mess. is it stuff i need to type?
[09:40] <cary> r0d...nm...got it
[09:41] <ompaul> xed so what you mean is debian or other - try this - in a terminal gnome-control-center and in there you will be helped :-)
[09:41] <r0d> :)
[09:41] <Razor-X> cary: you're not really used to a curses interface, are you?
[09:41] <HawkeVIPER> bollocks, I just knocked my ashtray off my desk
[09:41] <cthulfuego> quick, lick it up!
[09:41] <cary> Razor-X, i am BRAND new to linux. the closest thing to it i have used was the LiteStep shell replacement for windows.
[09:41] <HawkeVIPER> mmm....
[09:41] <HawkeVIPER> no
[09:41] <pfp> cary: that package you installed with synaptic created a file called /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.11.tar.bz2
[09:41] <microhaxo> how can i get windows to appear in my gnome bar instead of a added on at the bottom?
[09:42] <Jimbob> microhaxo: You mean like the OS X dock?
[09:42] <microhaxo> no dammit
[09:42] <microhaxo> hrm
[09:42] <microhaxo> Like
[09:42] <microhaxo> when i launch firefox
[09:42] <ompaul> HawkeVIPER, do you not pay enough taxes as to motivate you to stop - I used to to 2^6 smokes and higher a day
[09:42] <microhaxo> i deleted that bar on bottom of desktop
[09:42] <microhaxo> and now
[09:42] <microhaxo> it doesnt show any opened apps
[09:43] <cary> pfp, okay...
[09:43] <Jimbob> Ahh
[09:43] <r0d> cary,  well you picked the one of the best distro's to start in. I started from gentoo. and had to cry myseflt to sleep
[09:43] <Jimbob> right-click, Add to Panel
[09:43] <Jimbob> Select "Window List"
[09:43] <HawkeVIPER> ompaul: I buy em from Spain
[09:43] <Jimbob> (right-click on the panel, that is)
[09:43] <TomT64> hello can anyone help me decrypt a pdf file encrypted with fileopen?
[09:43] <cary> r0d, hah
[09:43] <HawkeVIPER> at 2 a pack, I can't argue
[09:43] <pfp> cary: you should extract that somewhere where you have about hmm, 300 MB free
[09:43] <microhaxo> thanks
[09:43] <Jimbob> np
[09:43] <HawkeVIPER> fork the government
[09:43] <HawkeVIPER> kthx
[09:43] <cary> r0d, i sort of chanced on ubuntu. randomly found apple-x byt googling my fingerfs off
[09:43] <microhaxo> muhahaha
[09:43] <jesse1> choubaka:  i tryed the install the configure worked with no errors but when i used sudo checkinstall it just gave me about 100 erros
[09:44] <xed> My face hurts because its ugly.
[09:44] <pfp> cary: in terminal, go to that directory and type tar xpjf /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.11.tar.bz2
[09:44] <ompaul> HawkeVIPER, maybe fork a process but never the other - more than one ooch
[09:44] <cary> pfp, okay...so...i find that file in...terminal? the file brosers?
[09:44] <HawkeVIPER> lol
[09:44] <cary> pfp okay
[09:44] <pfp> cary: tarminal ofc :)
[09:44] <pfp> e
[09:44] <cary> pfp ofc?
[09:44] <HawkeVIPER> I'd be quite happy if the government service segfaulted and died
[09:44] <HawkeVIPER> =P
[09:44] <cary> of course?
[09:44] <pfp> cary: of course
[09:44] <thoreauputic> jesse1: ./configure && make && checkinstall
[09:45] <cary> pfp, hold: doing so
[09:45] <thoreauputic> actually sudo checkinstall
[09:45] <jesse1> thoreauputic: there the sets i followed
[09:45] <ompaul> HawkeVIPER, until the guy who was much bigger than you with a big stick from down the road told you that you were now his  .......... go figure we started with anarchy and look at the mess it got us
[09:45] <Jimbob> HawkeVIPER: You'd have to killall corporationd and warlordd as well
[09:45] <TomT64> can anyone help me decrypt a pdf file encrypted with fileopen?
[09:46] <HawkeVIPER> Jimbob: true enough
[09:46] <HawkeVIPER> I'm quite happy living in my own little world of anarchy
[09:46] <cary> pfp, that mess is running now
[09:46] <HawkeVIPER> as long as they don't bother me, I won't bother them
[09:46] <ompaul> Jimbob, so it becomes rewite the the config file and kill -1 1 for reality
[09:46] <som1> hi :-D
[09:46] <jesse1> thoreauputic: i tryed again im still getting about 100 errors
[09:46] <cary> pfp, i guess its extracting it to that dir?
[09:47] <pfp> cary: yep. as long as you don't see any output, it's extracting
[09:47] <thoreauputic> jesse1: does "make" complete without errors ?
[09:47] <cary> i just see line after line after line running by
[09:47] <albacker> do you guys think that i should remove  libimlib2 when instllin a new version of imlib2 ??
[09:47] <jesse1> no thats what gives me the 100 errors
[09:48] <xed> Sometimes.. I think god doesn't want me to learn about the wonders of linux..
[09:48] <pfp> cary: gag. stop it with Ctrl-C.. and pls paste the last line
[09:48] <xed> God's got some pent up rage against Ubuntu!!!!!
[09:48] <Jimbob> ompaul: Eh, they're just social relations.
[09:48] <cary> pfp, it stoppd itself
[09:48] <xed> God's got some pent up rage against Ubuntu!!!!!
[09:48] <cary> tar: linux-source-2.6.11/README.Debian: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[09:48] <cary> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[09:48] <cary> those be the last to lines, ARRRRRRGH
[09:49] <pfp> cary: you're probably out of disk space, type 'df -h .' in the same directory
[09:49] <cary> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[09:49] <cary> /dev/hda6             4.3G  1.6G  2.5G  39% /
[09:49] <thoreauputic> jesse1: "100 errors" doesn't tell us much - maybe you should paste the errors you get on pastebin.com or similar
[09:49] <bluemax> does ubuntu/gnome recognize postscript fonts in .pfm format?
[09:50] <pfp> cary: the source itself takes about 230MB, and compiling some more... hmm, well you have plenty of that
[09:50] <cary> pfp, what sucks is i think it is using a differernt partition than i wanted it to . i got confused somewhere in installing and i think i lost in the suffle like 10 gigs, if i am using the 5 gig part.
[09:50] <microhaxo> guys what is enlightenment for gnome?
[09:50] <microhaxo> any pics?
[09:50] <HawkeVIPER> it's a window manager
[09:50] <pfp> cary: oh, damn :(
[09:50] <xed> Okay.. so I'm in a bit of a pickle..
[09:50] <ghoulio> .
[09:51] <xed> Someone.. please.. help.. me..!
[09:51] <HawkeVIPER> see http://www.enlightenment.org/
[09:51] <pfp> cary: that shouldn't matter here though
[09:51] <cary> pfp, not really sure wha tto do about it. im crap at trying to figure stuff out with that install thing
[09:51] <xed> After installing nvidia drivers...I reboot the pentium2 .. and now its all "..." at the login screen.
[09:51] <cary> i thought i did it right
[09:51] <cary> okay
[09:51] <xed> After installing nvidia drivers...I reboot the pentium2 .. and now its all "..." at the login screen.
[09:51] <microhaxo> is enlightenment good?
[09:52] <Frederick> how do I remove something from /var/.locks in ubuntu? Ive closed a window of a terminal with apt
[09:52] <HawkeVIPER> it's a personal thing
[09:52] <HawkeVIPER> I use xfce
[09:52] <pfp> cary: now we need to find out why the source wasn't extracted properly
[09:52] <HawkeVIPER> try it
[09:52] <cary> pfp, joy of joys
[09:52] <HawkeVIPER> if you hate it
[09:52] <Jimbob> bluemax: Apparently you can install those fonts (with both the pfm and pfb files) by copying them to ~/.fonts
[09:52] <jesse1> thoreauputic: http://pastebin.com/301297
[09:52] <HawkeVIPER> don't use it
[09:52] <hondje> bummer, another odd crash in firefox
[09:52] <hondje> also reproducable, but I'm thinking it's not firefox, but something local .... hrm
[09:52] <cary> pfp, is it possible i mis-typed?
[09:52] <hondje> and comcast is dead again.
[09:52] <xed> Who wants to help me?
[09:52] <HawkeVIPER> hondje: when does it crash?
[09:52] <HawkeVIPER> on java crap?
[09:53] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: When I try to accept a certificate for all time
[09:53] <pfp> cary: hmm, prolly not
[09:53] <HawkeVIPER> mmph
[09:53] <hondje> Got a core and everything, but I'm thinking something is really screwy on my end.
[09:53] <pfp> cary: rm -rf linux-source-2.6.11
[09:53] <HawkeVIPER> could be perms issue
[09:53] <bluemax> Jimbob: ok....
[09:53] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: Perms where?
[09:53] <HawkeVIPER> in your profile dir
[09:54] <HawkeVIPER> check bugs.mozilla.org
[09:54] <pfp> cary: after that: tar xpjf /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.11.tar.bz2 > tar.out 2>&1
[09:54] <cary> pfp, doesnt tell me anythign
[09:54] <cary> oaky
[09:54] <microhaxo> ok
[09:54] <microhaxo> i dloaded englightenment
[09:54] <microhaxo> how do i get it to work?
[09:54] <cary> permission denied
[09:54] <thoreauputic> jesse1: looks like someone goofed: I don't know how you can get that to build
[09:54] <microhaxo> i installed it
[09:54] <pfp> pfp: usually if unix commands succeed, they just keep quiet
[09:54] <cary> oh i gues sim not running as root pfp
[09:54] <cary> its got my user name
[09:54] <microhaxo> sudo
[09:54] <Jimbob> microhaxo: Go to Applications->System Tools->Configuration Editor
[09:54] <cary> cary@lnx
[09:54] <pfp> cary: you don't need to, actually it's better not to
[09:55] <thoreauputic> jesse1: the compiler doesn't like it, evidently
[09:55] <microhaxo> k
[09:55] <cary> oka
[09:55] <Jimbob> microhaxo: In /desktop/gnome/applications (I think) there should be a window manager key.
[09:55] <microhaxo> k
[09:55] <jesse1> thoreauputic: yea, maybe i could email the devloper to make a .deb file for it
[09:55] <cary> brb..root beer
[09:55] <r0d> anyone know about making gimp look like photoshop?
[09:55] <Frederick> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:55] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: nope, that wasn't it, but thanks for the thought.  I'd hate to file another bug, since I'm thinking all my problems are related somehow
[09:55] <Frederick> guys apt-is locked here
[09:56] <HawkeVIPER> r0d: it's not supposed to...
[09:56] <microhaxo> what do i do with the key?
[09:56] <hondje> Frederick: is synaptic running?
[09:56] <pfp> cary: you got permission denied from the  'rm -rf ...' ?
[09:56] <HawkeVIPER> hondje: I didn't mean file
[09:56] <HawkeVIPER> check the bug list
[09:56] <thoreauputic> Frederick: close all instances of apt/synaptic
[09:56] <microhaxo> Jimbob, waht do i do with the keyS?
[09:56] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: Ah, roger that ;)
[09:56] <Frederick> hondje: no
[09:56] <r0d> HawkeVIPER,  theirs a hack that does make it.
[09:56] <HawkeVIPER> r0d: mmm, check the gimp site
[09:56] <cary> when i did the previous one pfp
[09:56] <cary> pfp cary@lnx:/usr/src$ rm -rf linux-source-2.6.11
[09:56] <jesse1> fredrick: yes close synaptic or use that to install it for u
[09:56] <cary> it did nothing
[09:56] <cary> when i typed
[09:56] <r0d> HawkeVIPER,  right. I'm wondering user feedback guess no one uses it
[09:56] <hondje> Frederick: 'ps aux | grep apt' show anything?
[09:57] <Jimbob> Change /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager/default to "/usr/bin/enlightenment" (or wherever the enlightenment binary got installed)
[09:57] <microhaxo> Jimbob: what do i do with these keys?
[09:57] <cary> cary@lnx:/usr/src$ tar xpjf /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.11.tar.bz2 > tar.out 2>&1
[09:57] <HawkeVIPER> r0d: I don't tend to use gimp all that much
[09:57] <HawkeVIPER> I trained on PS
[09:57] <cary> bash: tar.out: Permission denied
[09:57] <HawkeVIPER> can't break the habit
[09:57] <HawkeVIPER> lol
[09:57] <Jimbob> Then log out and log back in
[09:57] <r0d> hehe
[09:57] <microhaxo> k
[09:57] <r0d> HawkeVIPER,  it would be one less reason to use windows
[09:57] <HawkeVIPER> indeed
[09:57] <pfp> cary: aah... now i gets it, get out of /usr/src (you could do it there too, but let's try to keep this simple)
[09:57] <tiglionabbit> crossover office claims to support PhotoShop
[09:57] <cary> pfp okay
[09:57] <jesse1> too bad theres no linux photoshop
[09:57] <cary> pfp where to
[09:58] <Frederick> Im trying to install kdevelop3
[09:58] <HawkeVIPER> still... I keep KHAMELEON a windows box for compatibility
[09:58] <ompaul> HawkeVIPER, being trained to put ones hand in the fire does not mean that you should :)
[09:58] <Frederick> and apt wants to update all my packages
[09:58] <HawkeVIPER> sometimes I'm forced to test crap using windows
[09:58] <HawkeVIPER> ompaul: true, but I really cba to relearn how to do everything I can already do in seconds on PS
[09:58] <pfp> cary: go to your home folder, then 'mkdir kernel ; cd kernel'
[09:58] <r0d> HawkeVIPER,  same here. I administer a window network:(
[09:59] <r0d> the tux stands alone...
[09:59] <thoreauputic> Frederick: apt generally knows what it's doing
[09:59] <HawkeVIPER> r0d: sucky for you... at least in my job, I'm primarily a linux admin
[09:59] <pfp> cary: then re-run that tar...  command
[09:59] <tiglionabbit> r0d: heard of Samba?
[09:59] <microhaxo> err
[09:59] <HawkeVIPER> although, we've started to deal with windows now too =/
[09:59] <Frederick> thoreauputic: I dont consider open office as a dep for kdevelop
[09:59] <microhaxo> Jimbob:
[09:59] <cary> cary@lnx:/$ mkdir kernal ; cd kernel
[09:59] <cary> mkdir: cannot create directory `kernal': Permission denied
[09:59] <cary> bash: cd: kernel: No such file or directory
[09:59] <microhaxo> ah
[09:59] <r0d> tiglionabbit,  yea, but my boss didnt
[09:59] <cary> ahhaah
[09:59] <cary> i used an a
[09:59] <microhaxo> it didnt do anything?
[09:59] <HawkeVIPER> the only unfortunate thing about samba
[10:00] <Jimbob> Umm, try changing the "current" key to /usr/bin/enlightenment
[10:00] <cary> i tried just the first command
[10:00] <cary> it said permission denied, pfp
[10:00] <HawkeVIPER> is the way it goes D if you're connected to a windows share from a linux box and the windows share reboots
[10:00] <thoreauputic> Frederick: heh - what command are you using  to install kdevelop?
[10:00] <Jimbob> (then logout/log back in)
[10:00] <pfp> cary: umm, you're in the root directory (/) now, you should be in your home (/home/yourusername)
[10:00] <cary> ahha
[10:00] <Mistic_Warrior> bonjour tout le monde
[10:00] <r0d> HawkeVIPER,  that is a downer
[10:00] <Mistic_Warrior> a va bien =
[10:00] <pfp> cary: type just 'cd' by itself to get there
[10:00] <cary> pfp, could do like cd /~ to make it sure
[10:00] <cary> ahha
[10:00] <HawkeVIPER> yeah
[10:00] <cary> never
[10:01] <cary> mind
[10:01] <microhaxo> Jimbob: didnt do anything?
[10:01] <microhaxo> i have a black background
[10:01] <Mistic_Warrior> Vous parlez pas franais ?
[10:01] <microhaxo> thats it
[10:01] <HawkeVIPER> Mistic_Warrior: parle anglais svp
[10:01] <Mistic_Warrior> why ?
[10:01] <Jimbob> microhaxo: Hrm.
[10:01] <thoreauputic> Mistic_Warrior: bonjour - /join #ubuntu-fr :)
[10:01] <r0d> i will say one good thing(only) good about windows is its really easy to admin several boxes
[10:01] <HawkeVIPER> because this is an english chan?
[10:01] <Mistic_Warrior> ok thx
[10:01] <microhaxo> k
[10:01] <HawkeVIPER> r0d: indeed
[10:01] <Jimbob> microhaxo: Beats me then, I haven't used enlightenment in years.
[10:01] <HawkeVIPER> it has some major picky ass issues at times tho
[10:02] <cary> okay finally
[10:02] <Jimbob> r0d: No worse than Linux (and if you're using remote X / NFS root it's actually harder)
[10:02] <cary> ~/kernel exists
[10:02] <Mistic_Warrior> sry I mustn't car about the language of the chan... :D
[10:02] <Mistic_Warrior> car [10:02] <HawkeVIPER> Jimbob: why would you use remote X?
[10:02] <pfp> cary: great, go to that directory, then the tar... thing
[10:02] <Mistic_Warrior> so good word :)
[10:02] <microhaxo> lol
[10:02] <r0d> Jimbob, I used NFS. theirs alot more overhead. not saying i wouldnt use it
[10:02] <Mistic_Warrior> work
[10:03] <Jimbob> HawkeVIPER: So you only have to install apps on one box
[10:03] <HawkeVIPER> ooh, ya
[10:03] <HawkeVIPER> gotcha
[10:03] <HawkeVIPER> sorry... been a very long night
[10:03] <Frederick> how do I set all my system back to english?
[10:03] <cary> pfp, done
[10:03] <cary> pfp, i am getting no output
[10:03] <HawkeVIPER> why do I get th efeeling that I'm about to start chasing dependancies...
[10:03] <pfp> cary: ok, that's good
[10:03] <signius> Does anyone know of a free NFS serve rthat will run on windows server to do linux installs i have ha d abit of a look abotu but all the products ive seen appear to be comercial
[10:04] <cary> pfp, (i need a cpu meter so i can tell what is going on)
[10:04] <HawkeVIPER> signius: check download.com
[10:04] <signius> wow bad typing today
[10:04] <HawkeVIPER> I'm 99% certain there is on elisted there
[10:04] <jesse1> is there anyway i can save all the packages ive downloaded so i can take them over to my friends house? since hes got slow internet.
[10:04] <microhaxo> err
[10:04] <xxenon> will 2.6.12 (out now) be an officially supported kernel ?
[10:04] <microhaxo> anyone
[10:04] <Jimbob> r0d: Eh, NFS is still less overhead than SMB/remote profiles
[10:04] <microhaxo> can anyone help me get Enlightenment running, i have installed it fine in synamtic or what not
[10:04] <pfp> cary: when it's finished, there should be exactly one dir, named linux-source-2.6.11
[10:04] <hondje> NFS is lovely :-)
[10:04] <thoreauputic> jesse1: they should be in /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:04] <HawkeVIPER> smb and NFS both have ugly overheads
[10:05] <HawkeVIPER> doesn't matter which way you cut it
[10:05] <Jimbob> hondje: Naw, NFS sucks -- it just sucks less
[10:05] <cary> im back to prompt
[10:05] <xed> I need some serious help
[10:05] <hondje> NFS over ssh tunnel is great
[10:05] <signius> ZERO results for NFS under a windows search
[10:05] <cary> it says
[10:05] <xed> I need some serious help
[10:05] <ompaul> microhaxo, so log out and choose it for your session
[10:05] <hondje> Easy to set up, secure enough to use, etc
[10:05] <jesse1> thoreauputic: so all i do is copy that folder and paste it in there on my friends computer?
[10:05] <hondje> signius: SFU does NFS afaik
[10:05] <cary> pfp, linux-source-2.6.11  tar.out
[10:05] <cary> i dont know what the tar.out is but there is only the one dir pfp
[10:05] <xed> The screen locks up on bootup; I'm using gnome
[10:06] <thoreauputic> jesse1: umm... well I would read the apt-howto first if I were you ;) sudo apt-get install apt-howto
[10:06] <r0d> Jimbob,  I wouldnt doubt. but NFS vs Windows, windows was is easier. now security is another matter
[10:06] <r0d> *-was
[10:06] <cary> pfp, btw..where in the world are you? i am in the state of alabama. (i know i know. it sounds hickish. birmingham is quite nice though)
[10:06] <pfp> cary: ah yes, good... do an 'ls -l', tar.out should have zero size
[10:06] <xed> It was working fine before I installed the nvidia drivers.. anyone know how I can get back to the default settings?
[10:06] <signius> whats SFU ?
[10:06] <Jimbob> r0d: I just got done moving from NT4 -> Samba+LDAP
[10:06] <ompaul> xed you asked for help with gnome - not nvidia - the reason I do not use nvidia is because they do not release enough information to the community to allow us use the cards we bought - this is not good
[10:06] <cary> pfp, it does have a 0 size
[10:06] <r0d> Jimbob, ok NT4 is hell in a box
[10:07] <xed> ompaul, aye, but this problem JUST occurred
[10:07] <ompaul> xed I suggest that you have a look at the wiki
[10:07] <jesse1> ok ill read that
[10:07] <Jimbob> r0d: Yes, yes it is :-)
[10:07] <hondje> signius: service for unix
[10:07] <xed> ompaul: link?
[10:07] <pfp> cary: i'm in finland miself
[10:07] <HawkeVIPER> r0d: NT4 pwns
[10:07] <HawkeVIPER> lol
[10:07] <cary> pfp, oh man im jealous
[10:07] <HawkeVIPER> NT4... it's not an OS... it's an adventure
[10:07] <r0d> still have nightmares w/ nt4...
[10:07] <hondje> signius: MS has it on their website, and I _think_ it's free now
[10:07] <dreamboy> hello people here
[10:07] <r0d> lol
[10:07] <cary> dreamboy, hello person there
[10:07] <pfp> cary: :D i demand to know why?
[10:07] <r0d> no doubt
[10:07] <Jimbob> r0d: Why? Just because your domain controller randomly locks up... :-)
[10:07] <HawkeVIPER> microsoft... are giving something away... for nothing?
[10:07] <hondje> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/sfu/default.mspx
[10:08] <signius> actually i think i might have that downlaoded already
[10:08] <ompaul> xed https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:08] <signius> i will go check out exactly whats in it
[10:08] <signius> thanks for the pointer
[10:08] <cary> pfp, because finland to me is unknown and i desire to go to the unknown. i love travelling and as i have never been there, i know not that which i [think i might maybe]  desire
[10:08] <thoreauputic> jesse1: type file:///usr/share/doc/Debian/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.html in your browser to read the howto when it's installed
[10:08] <cary> pfp, either way i want to go there to take photos
[10:08] <HawkeVIPER> erm....
[10:08] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: They give lots of stuff away, like IE :-D
[10:08] <HawkeVIPER> apt should already be installed...
[10:08] <r0d> I wouldnt wish a full NT4 enviroment on my worst enemy. I'd recommend window 3.11 before that
[10:08] <hondje> Perhaps this is their idea of how to stop people from buying *nix
[10:08] <HawkeVIPER> hondje: that's only because they couldn't sell it
[10:09] <jesse1> thoreauputic: how long u been using ubuntu for????
[10:09] <ompaul> cary but it is one of the best monty python songs
[10:09] <cary> thoreauputic, hello again
[10:09] <thoreauputic> HawkeVIPER: I told him yo install the howto :)
[10:09] <cary> ompaul, whcih?
[10:09] <HawkeVIPER> ooh, ok
[10:09] <pfp> cary: welcome, english is widely spoken :P and there's lots of nature & stuff
[10:09] <HawkeVIPER> thoreauputic: there's one on the LDP too
[10:09] <thoreauputic> jesse1: about 6 months - Debian as well for 2 years
[10:09] <ompaul> cary finland
[10:09] <HawkeVIPER> and man apt works
[10:09] <Jimbob> r0d: Well, prior to NT4 it was a NetWare shop
[10:10] <pfp> cary: bout the kernel, you should cd to that linux-source-2.6.11 dir
[10:10] <Jimbob> r0d: Blessedly before my time
[10:10] <cary> pfp, when i get my linux up and running maybe ill book a flight. [WOULD that i had that kind of money lying around] 
[10:10] <jesse1> thoreauputic: well ive been using linux since tuesday
[10:10] <cary> pfp, doing that now
[10:10] <cary> pfp, there
[10:10] <microhaxo> Ok
[10:10] <thoreauputic> HawkeVIPER: your point? the apt howto is an excellent resource worth having on your machine
[10:10] <r0d> Jimbob,  I still was playing w/ GI joes when that was out
[10:10] <HawkeVIPER> thoreauputic: my point is you don't need to install it
[10:10] <pfp> cary: mmhm, id' be travelling this very moment, if i had the money :)
[10:10] <HawkeVIPER> generally if you're using apt, you're online
[10:10] <HawkeVIPER> so look at the LDP copy
[10:11] <Jimbob> r0d: I was on AOL, personally
[10:11] <thoreauputic> HawkeVIPER: whatever
[10:11] <microhaxo> is there a list of MUST HAVE APPS that i can get through Synaptic?
[10:11] <pfp> cary: ok, now where's the patch you saved
[10:11] <cary> pfp, lets come up with a massive interntational scheme to steal lots of monies and travel th eworld over
[10:11] <kangpeh> i am very much enjoying this dark theme for gnome ;)
[10:11] <jesse1> thoreauputic: dang thats a long read
[10:11] <r0d> Jimbob,  yea I have that skeleton in my closet too. AOL :( the dark days
[10:11] <thoreauputic> HawkeVIPER: some of us are not always on line and like to read stuff locally
[10:11] <pfp> cary: i'm in, heh
[10:11] <cary> desktop, pfp
[10:12] <r0d> w/ my bad@$$ 28.8kps modem baby!!
[10:12] <ompaul> thoreauputic, and this is invoked how?
[10:12] <HawkeVIPER> thoreauputic: no offense meant man
[10:12] <thoreauputic> jesse1: you can look for what you need in the index, of course
[10:12] <pfp> cary: ok, now to apply your 1st ever kernel patch: patch -p1 ~/Desktop/patchfile
[10:12] <jesse1> thoreaupitc: yea
[10:12] <HawkeVIPER> r0d: heh... I remember 9600baud bbs
[10:12] <r0d> *kbs. spelling is running low today
[10:12] <nickthedick> !ati
[10:12] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:12] <HawkeVIPER> that r0x0red
[10:12] <cdc> i ve installed ubuntu but i am new to this X-Org so i get display with huge fonts and huge icons how do i configure my desktop for 1024*768
[10:12] <r0d> yikes
[10:12] <ompaul> thoreauputic, and this (apt howto) is invoked how?
[10:12] <Mistic_Warrior> What is for you the best video-reader in linux ? kaffeine doesn't work very good :S
[10:12] <thoreauputic> ompaul: I just go to /usr/share/doc/Debian/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.html
[10:13] <Chetic> what the hell.. where'd my soundcard go?!
[10:13] <nickthedick> !disco
[10:13] <ubotu> nickthedick: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:13] <thoreauputic> ompaul: which is now bookmarked of course...
[10:13] <r0d> HawkeVIPER,  whats that lol
[10:13] <cary> pfp, by the by, what is the -pl part of that command
[10:13] <cary> (its patching)
[10:14] <cary> pfp, should i go ahead and apply those other patches on the website before compiling?
[10:14] <r0d> cary,  you still trying to patch your kernel
[10:14] <HawkeVIPER> r0d: back in the day before the internet... Bulletin Boards were huge, 9600baud was a modem speed, roughly 1/4 the speed of 28.8
[10:14] <cdc>  i ve installed ubuntu but i am new to this X-Org so i get display with huge fonts and huge icons how do i configure my desktop for 1024*768
[10:14] <HawkeVIPER> used to spend hours wardialling for BBSs
[10:14] <cary> r0d, yes jerk. and for your information its patching now. [sniff nose and point it to the sky] 
[10:14] <r0d> HawkeVIPER,  my god. thats smoking
[10:14] <cary> r0d (told you im new)
[10:14] <HawkeVIPER> oh ya
[10:14] <r0d> cary,  meant nothing by it man
[10:14] <r0d> just asking
[10:14] <cary> r0d (im just kidding too)
[10:14] <xed> Who wants to help me fix this lock up on login/start up issue?
[10:15] <HawkeVIPER> liek fastar then j00r AY DEE ESS EHL
[10:15] <HawkeVIPER> kthx
[10:15] <HawkeVIPER> =P
[10:15] <r0d> ;)
[10:15] <pfp> cary: the patch file contains file names and paths, the -p<number> tells patch the depth of dirs to strip from those paths
[10:15] <cary> r0d (im fairly sarcastic but thats doesnt translate well)
[10:15] <ompaul> thoreauputic, not installed by default - maybe it should be
[10:15] <drummer87> Someone heelp mee... i've donesomething bad and i dunno how to fix it.. my panel has no applets and i get an error when adding them: "The panel encountered a problem while loading 'OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet'."
[10:16] <TokenBad> is there a way to label a dir to a user?
[10:16] <cary> pfp, shoudl it still be patching?
[10:16] <TokenBad> like a command?
[10:16] <cdc> could some one tell me how to change the resolution in Ubuntu?
[10:16] <r0d> no i just didnt read "yes jerk" and blocked everthing else out.
[10:16] <xed> My words always get lost in awkward conversations.
[10:16] <cary> r0d (hope i didnt offend)
[10:16] <HawkeVIPER> TokenBad: you mean set the perms to a user?
[10:16] <HawkeVIPER> or?
[10:16] <ompaul> gota shoot
[10:16] <cdc> i am getting huge fonts and huge icons so please kindly help me
[10:16] <linuxboy> how do I plaf flash? when I install it, it needs ruby...
[10:16] <thoreauputic> ompaul: well, as HawkeVIPER says, it's available on line - there's a copy linked from debian.org for example
[10:16] <pfp> cary: ah, made a typo.. ctrl-c it
[10:16] <TokenBad> yeah like say uploads is a user..and want the dir to be set to his user level
[10:16] <r0d> so how far are you cary ?
[10:16] <Chetic> How do I change which soundcard is the default?
[10:16] <Chetic> which sound device
[10:16] <TokenBad> which happens to be 1001
[10:16] <cary> pfp, done. now what
[10:17] <pfp> cary: then: patch -p1 < ~/Desktop/patchfile
[10:17] <HawkeVIPER> TokenBad: chmod -R 1001:groupid dirname
[10:17] <drummer87> it happened either after i compiled a app for sensors or installed another app from atp-get
[10:17] <cary> done, apparently, pfp
[10:17] <Eighth> my box has been randomly locking up and now apache isn't working.  i checked out the logs and found that libkrb53 appears to be broken.  how do i fix it?
[10:17] <drummer87> pretty sure one of those is the culprit.. is there a way i can restore previous configs for the panel?
[10:18] <xed> HawkeVIPER: want to help me out?
[10:18] <cary> r0d, im not really sure. patch one seems to be applied. i may (?) be applying more, but i dont rightly know
[10:18] <HawkeVIPER> xed: what with sir?
[10:18] <linuxboy> pfp: make kpkg ?
[10:18] <TokenBad> when did chmod -R 1001:1001 uploads1
[10:18] <TokenBad> it gives me invalid
[10:18] <HawkeVIPER> group
[10:18] <HawkeVIPER> yeah
[10:18] <HawkeVIPER> grep 1001 /etc/passwd
[10:18] <linuxboy> pfp: http://wiki.clug.org.za/clugwiki/index.php/How_do_I_compile_my_own_kernel_into_a_deb%3F
[10:18] <HawkeVIPER> find his group id
[10:18] <cary> pfp, i dont knwo about these other patches. my fn key seems to work as it shoudl
[10:18] <drummer87> :(
[10:18] <HawkeVIPER> it'll be like 1001:groupidhere:blah:blah
[10:18] <xed> HawkeVIPER: I need help with this login lockup issue I'm having..
[10:18] <vHintswen> hey
[10:18] <vHintswen> i need help!
[10:19] <vHintswen> my mouse isn't working on Ubuntu
[10:19] <drummer87> can noone help me??
[10:19] <cary> pfp, but hey, id rather my cpu be running on full than crippled
[10:19] <TokenBad> uploads:x:1001:1001:uploads,uploads
[10:19] <Chetic> All my audio applications use the wrong /dev/dsp device, how do I change which one is default?
[10:19] <Eighth> drummer87: be patient... you will get the help you need
[10:19] <r0d> vHintswen,  what type of mouse. ps/2 usb?
[10:19] <xed> HawkeVIPER: The screen locks up as soon as login screen comes up in gnome..
[10:19] <pfp> cary: hmm, if it ain't broken, no need to fix... that cpu patch migh be a good idea though
[10:19] <Eighth> drummer87: lots of problems, few gurus
[10:19] <cary> pfp, roger
[10:19] <drummer87> point taken
[10:19] <vHintswen> ps2
[10:19] <pfp> cary: and anything else you'd like to add, heh
[10:20] <microhaxo> guys
[10:20] <cdc> i am unable to configure my X Server
[10:20] <HawkeVIPER> xed: when you boot, add init 3 on the extensions line
[10:20] <r0d> did you look in your /dev folder
[10:20] <cdc> i am getting huge fonts and icons
[10:20] <cary> pfp, i'd love to add lots of stuff but i havnt a clue what those things are
[10:20] <vHintswen> ?
[10:20] <microhaxo> i have downloaded tux racer from the synaptic deal but where the hell did it install it?
[10:20] <HawkeVIPER> that should get you into the shell
[10:20] <cdc> i want it in 1024 * 768 resolution
[10:20] <jesse1> thoreaupitc: thanks for your help hopefully i can get those to install well im off cya
[10:20] <cary> so, same command then for hte new patch i assume
[10:20] <cdc> how do i change it
[10:20] <xed> HawkeVIPER: what do you mean "add" .. how do I go about doing this?
[10:20] <cdc> could some one please tell me ?
[10:20] <TokenBad> HawkeVIPER, uploads:x:1001:1001:uploads,uploads
[10:20] <jesse1> microhax: did u click apply?
[10:20] <TokenBad> so his id is 1001 right?
[10:20] <HawkeVIPER> mmph
[10:20] <vHintswen> ..?
[10:20] <HawkeVIPER> what was the exact error TokenBad
[10:21] <microhaxo> yea i did
[10:21] <pfp> cary: same command, yep
[10:21] <jesse1> mircohax: did u refresh the gnomepanel?
[10:21] <TokenBad> invalid mode string
[10:21] <r0d> vHintswen,  thats where your devices are stored. look for /dev/psaux
[10:21] <cary> done
[10:21] <vHintswen> i can't do anything!
[10:21] <vHintswen> lol
[10:21] <r0d> ?
[10:21] <pfp> linuxboy: thanks
[10:21] <HawkeVIPER> duh
[10:21] <HawkeVIPER> I'm a tard tonight
[10:21] <HawkeVIPER> my bad
[10:21] <vHintswen> i think i can login but after that nothing happens
[10:21] <cdc> i am unable to set my configuration to 1024*768 resolution
[10:21] <cdc> how do i change it
[10:21] <microhaxo> no
[10:21] <linuxboy> pfp: hope it helps
[10:21] <microhaxo> lol
[10:21] <HawkeVIPER> chown -R 1001:1001 dir/
[10:21] <r0d> vHintswen,  as long as you can use bash your ok
[10:21] <cdc>  i ve changed my xorg.conf too
[10:21] <vHintswen> it just shows a background or something and that's all
[10:22] <HawkeVIPER> weee... too much coffee and no sleep... just rocks
[10:22] <cdc> what else needs to be done
[10:22] <vHintswen> bash?
[10:22] <r0d> vHintswen,  thats the command prompt
[10:22] <cdc> HawkeVIPER, could you help me please?
[10:22] <HawkeVIPER> mmmph, it's not tonight anymore... it's 11:20 =/
[10:22] <vHintswen> well what if i can't cause i dunno how to use ubuntu
[10:22] <microhaxo> i still dont see tux racer?
[10:22] <som1> ok, i cant start ubuntu (no dev/console). now that i tried installing netbsd, i get the same problem.
[10:22] <HawkeVIPER> cdc: I'm not an xorg guru
[10:22] <som1> what could it be?
[10:22] <vHintswen> lol lemmi go try again...
[10:22] <microhaxo> where does synaptic install tux racer to?
[10:22] <Eighth> how can i rebuild a library without uninstalling it?
[10:22] <HawkeVIPER> microhaxo: the tuxracer name changed
[10:22] <pfp> cary: probably that therm patch is a good idea too, since the author recommends it
[10:22] <drummer87> cdc, system > prefs > screen resolution
[10:22] <r0d> vHintswen,  you said you cant see your mouse. but does linux start for you
[10:22] <TokenBad> i get operation not permitted
[10:22] <cary> pfp, all patches (save the fn key) are done
[10:23] <HawkeVIPER> make sure you sudo
[10:23] <microhaxo> what do you mean?
[10:23] <cdc> drummer87, that does not start
[10:23] <HawkeVIPER> sudo chown -R 1001:1001 dir/
[10:23] <cary> pfp, one step ahead (first time ever!)
[10:23] <TokenBad> I am in root terminal
[10:23] <HawkeVIPER> ugh
[10:23] <microhaxo> hawkviper
[10:23] <jesse1> microhaxo: it should be in the games section
[10:23] <microhaxo> not there
[10:23] <microhaxo> installed it fine
[10:23] <cdc> drummer87, i manually edited the xorg.conf and changed to 1024 but it still starts with 640 * 480
[10:23] <cdc> drummer87, what do i do
[10:23] <HawkeVIPER> iirc
[10:23] <jesse1> microhaxo: did u refresh the gnomepanel by in the terminal type killall gnomepanel
[10:23] <HawkeVIPER> it's called 4racer now
[10:24] <HawkeVIPER> or some such crap
[10:24] <microhaxo> i did
[10:24] <som1> ok, i cant start ubuntu (no dev/console). now that i tried installing netbsd, i get the same problem. what could it be? i updated kernel with synpatic
[10:24] <microhaxo> CTRL alt
[10:24] <microhaxo> backspace
[10:24] <microhaxo> that good enufF?
[10:24] <hondje> cdc: In your monitor section of xorg.conf, you need to futz with the horiz/vert (assuming you restarted X already)
[10:24] <drummer87> cdc, does that app come up? if you've changed xorg.conf there should be an option for the res you added in that app
[10:24] <TokenBad> guess will have to format and reinstall and maybe have it work right after that
[10:24] <TokenBad> cause its not working now
[10:24] <cdc> drummer87, that screen resolution application does not come up at all
[10:24] <vHintswen> r0d, yes it starts
[10:24] <HawkeVIPER> TokenBad: there is no reason for you to have to format and reinstall
[10:24] <vHintswen> i just loged in
[10:24] <HawkeVIPER> on an issue that small
[10:25] <HawkeVIPER> that is WAY overkill
[10:25] <hondje> sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange gives the ranges for the horiz/vert stuff, fwiw
[10:25] <TokenBad> well been trying to get it to work for days now
[10:25] <TokenBad> and I have had a couple people try to help
[10:25] <TokenBad> and none can figure it out
[10:25] <vHintswen> i see my mouse pointer but moving my mouse doesn't move the pointer
[10:25] <HawkeVIPER> TokenBad: ls -al dirname
[10:25] <hondje> TokenBad: what's up?
[10:25] <HawkeVIPER> paste the output here
[10:25] <TokenBad> all I could figure out is maybe bad mount settings on the drive that has that dir on it
[10:25] <r0d> vHintswen,  ok now do ' ls /dev | grep psaux'
[10:26] <r0d> first log in
[10:26] <vHintswen> where?
[10:26] <r0d> ;)
[10:26] <vHintswen> k
[10:26] <microhaxo> HawkeVIPER why cant i find TUX RACER?
[10:26] <microhaxo> lol
[10:26] <som1> microhaxo they said name changed
[10:26] <microhaxo> to what?
[10:26] <TokenBad> drwxr-xr-x   20 tokenbad tokenbad      32768 2005-06-18 01:13 uploads1
 it's called 4racer now
[10:26] <drummer87> cdc, hmm.. can't help u there, it should come up. that's where you change the res, maybe a problem with the app
[10:26] <microhaxo> bah
[10:27] <drummer87> cdc, try running gnome-display-properties from terminal and see if there are any errors pointing to why it's not coming up
[10:27] <r0d> vHintswen,  are you in the graphic's interface(gui)
[10:27] <vHintswen> ' ls /dev | grep psaux'i dunno where i'm typing that!
[10:27] <HawkeVIPER> som1: you missed the 'or some such shit'
[10:27] <microhaxo> i dont see that in the synaptic deal?
[10:27] <vHintswen> yeah GUI
[10:27] <som1> sudo apt-cache search racer
[10:27] <Eighth> how can i repair a broken library without uninstalling it?
[10:27] <thoreauputic> microhaxo: if the package is called tuxracer, do dpkg -L tuxracer | grep bin in a terminal to see where the binary is
[10:27] <r0d> ok hit 'alt ctrl backspace'
[10:27] <HawkeVIPER> my bad
[10:27] <HawkeVIPER> ppracer
[10:27] <cary> pfp, now what?
[10:27] <HawkeVIPER> =)
[10:27] <microhaxo> BS
[10:27] <vHintswen> and then type that?
[10:27] <microhaxo> user/games/tuxracer
[10:27] <microhaxo> its not there
[10:28] <microhaxo> im tellin you
[10:28] <r0d> log in then type it
[10:28] <HawkeVIPER> microhaxo: type `ppracer`
[10:28] <cdc> hondje, where do i specify the vertical and horizontal sync of the monitor in xorg.conf i dont see any default parameters passed for Horizontal and veritcal sync
[10:28] <TokenBad> HawkeVIPER, as far as I know that settings should be letting people upload
[10:28] <microhaxo> in what hawkeviper?
[10:28] <pfp> cary: i was reading some docs on how to make this easy (i know how to compile a kernel 'by hand', but theres a more automated method)
[10:28] <vHintswen> so i press ctrl+alt+backspace b4 i login?
[10:28] <HawkeVIPER> a shell...
[10:28] <thoreauputic> microhaxo: just type "tuxracer" in term and it should run
[10:28] <microhaxo> k
[10:28] <microhaxo> lo
[10:28] <r0d> yea
[10:28] <HawkeVIPER> thoreauputic: it's not called tuxracer anymore
[10:28] <vHintswen> k
[10:28] <hondje> cdc: /msg me and I'll walk you through it
[10:28] <r0d> it gives your the command prompt, bash
[10:28] <HawkeVIPER> it was renamed upstream a while back
[10:28] <vHintswen> how can i log out?
[10:28] <cary> pfp, ahha. sorry to rush. i appreciate your help very much
[10:28] <thoreauputic> HawkeVIPER: OK
[10:29] <r0d> no dont worry about that vHintswen  just log in again
[10:29] <r0d> it will ask you when u hit that button combo
[10:29] <r0d> ctrl alt backspace
[10:29] <cdc> hondje, one sec i have made some changes let me see whether it works now otherwise i ll be here again and i ll msg you
[10:29] <thoreauputic> HawkeVIPER: strange, i wonder why ?
[10:29] <vHintswen> o.o i'm already loged in with GUI so how to i logout?
[10:29] <hondje> cdc: okay
[10:29] <vHintswen> oh ok
[10:29] <cdc> thanks for your reply and offering help :-)
[10:29] <TokenBad> hondje, same problem as before..people can't upload to the dir on the mounted drive
[10:29] <hondje> TokenBad: oh yes, and it's not mounted ro and all that :-/
[10:30] <TokenBad> ??
[10:30] <woogie> ot: opera website down for anyone else?
[10:30] <drummer87> is it ok to remove ubuntu-desktop but then install it again? i want to completely remove gnome-panel then reinstall it
[10:30] <hondje> TokenBad: when you type 'mount' w/out arguements, it doesn't show the drive being mounted ro
[10:30] <drummer87> ubuntu-desktop must come down with it
[10:30] <TokenBad> oh
[10:31] <TokenBad> umm
[10:31] <hondje> Like, for example, 'tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,noexec)'
[10:31] <hondje> it says rw, not ro
[10:31] <microhaxo> kewl
[10:32] <cdc> hondje, got it :-)
[10:32] <vHintswen> o.o
[10:32] <cdc> now its perfect
[10:32] <TokenBad> ok let me test something
[10:32] <TokenBad> brb
[10:32] <TokenBad> hope
[10:32] <hondje> cdc: awesome :)
[10:32] <cdc> hondje, thanks a lot for suggesting that
[10:32] <vHintswen> i presed ctrl+alt+backspack sace, entered my username and it just went to next line
[10:32] <cdc> and now the screen resolution application comes up
[10:32] <hondje> cdc: No problem, if you find oddness w/ your refresh rates in the future, that's probably it right there
[10:33] <r0d> vHintswen, now password
[10:33] <cdc> it should be the other way round . The Screen resolution application should come up before the screen resolution is configured and not after everything is done in the hard way :-)
[10:33] <pfp> cary: ok.... you need to configure the kernel sources before compiling, do: cp /boot/config-`uname -r` .config
[10:33] <hondje> hehe
[10:33] <r0d> vHintswen,  type in the command i told you
[10:33] <pfp> cary: in the linux-2.6... directory
[10:33] <cary> oka
[10:33] <microhaxo> guys, i have dloaded Azureus
[10:33] <microhaxo> can you help me install it?
[10:34] <pfp> cary: then: make oldconfig
[10:34] <microhaxo> its a .bz2
[10:34] <hondje> microhaxo: you can't apt-get install azureus?
[10:34] <microhaxo> no
[10:34] <microhaxo> its .bz2?
[10:34] <microhaxo> oh
[10:34] <microhaxo> no i didnt add the crap for it
[10:34] <cary> i did that, got no return. is that okay?
[10:34] <microhaxo> its not in synaptic
[10:34] <thoreauputic> microhaxo: use the repos, don't just download stuff randomly
[10:34] <hondje> oh look, I don't have it either
[10:35] <thoreauputic> !repositories
[10:35] <ubotu> [repositories]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:35] <cary> cary@lnx:~/kernel/linux-source-2.6.11$ make oldconfig
[10:35] <cary> make: gcc: Command not found
[10:35] <cary> /home/cary/kernel/linux-source-2.6.11/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc: command not found
[10:35] <Chetic> How do I use my webcam? With TVTime or what? I have nooo idea what to do to use it here.. (no, I don't want to use gnomemeeting)
[10:35] <microhaxo> Repos
[10:35] <thoreauputic> microhaxo: read ubotu's URL
[10:35] <microhaxo> i dloaded it from Azureus's site
[10:35] <microhaxo> amd64 the only 64 version
[10:35] <cdc> could some one tell me how to set up apt resources
[10:35] <pfp> cary: ah... you need some tools
[10:35] <cdc> hondje, i had a look in sources.list and everything is commented out
[10:35] <hondje> cdc: I have mine posted online, if you want to see 'em
[10:36] <cdc> hondje, so which one should i uncomment
[10:36] <cary> pfp...weeeeeee! toosl
[10:36] <som1> ill ask again :p
[10:36] <cdc> hondje, yes give me the link :-)
[10:36] <som1> i cant start ubuntu (no dev/console). now that i tried installing netbsd, i get the same problem. what could it be? i updated kernel with synpatic
[10:36] <thoreauputic> cdc: just uncomment the lines that start with "deb"
[10:36] <microhaxo> here is the file  i have
[10:36] <microhaxo> Azureus_2.3.0.2_linux.AMD64.tar.bz2
[10:36] <microhaxo> how can i install?
[10:36] <thoreauputic> cdc: if you want multiverse, add the word multiverse to the universe lines
[10:36] <pfp> cary: sudo apt-get install build-essential kernel-package fakeroot
[10:36] <hondje> cdc: That'll give you all the ubuntu stuff, backports and other stuff isn't in mine
[10:36] <kmikz> can somebody help me with my sound problem in ubuntu?
[10:37] <hondje> at least in what I have online
[10:37] <thoreauputic> cdc: then reload/update
[10:37] <som1> microhaxo first decompress it, untar it. configure, makefile or just follow a readme
[10:37] <som1> ?:)
[10:37] <lsuactiafner> cary " apt-get build-essentials
[10:37] <microhaxo> k
[10:37] <cary> i assume "i wnat to continue"
[10:37] <gorthaug> hi i've a problem with my sound... it's a nforce2 integrated...
[10:37] <cary> its asking for some cd
[10:37] <som1> y!
[10:37] <cary> i guess my install cd?
[10:37] <som1> change sources.list
[10:38] <vHintswen> ' ls /dev | grep psaux' with the '?
[10:38] <kmikz> problems with sound here too
[10:38] <som1> cary vim /etc/apt/sources.list, comment the first uncommented line. thats ur cd
[10:38] <lsuactiafner> alsamixer and unmute your sound..
[10:38] <cary> i put the cd it. it seems to be working pfp
[10:38] <gorthaug> i've beenn installed ut2004 but i don't have sound in the game!! it use openal
[10:38] <kmikz> hey done that.. not muted
[10:38] <Chetic> How do I install my webcam as a video device?
[10:38] <pfp> good..
[10:38] <cary> back to prompt. ig uess thats done, pfp?
[10:39] <kmikz> also checked in the gnome volume control
[10:39] <thoreauputic> gorthaug: try sudo killall esd before starting it
[10:39] <pfp> cary: yep, now the previous command
[10:39] <cary> som1, that is basically the contents of the install disk?
[10:39] <lsuactiafner> Chetic : depends on your webcam, chances are its not supported by the kernel
[10:39] <som1> cary yeah, it tries to use the cd first
[10:39] <TokenBad> hondje, I have it set to ro now
[10:39] <Chetic> lsuactiafner, so I can't use the thing for anything but a microphone? that sucks..
[10:39] <r0d> vHintswen,  no quotes
[10:39] <gorthaug> thoreauputic it's works but...
[10:39] <TokenBad> and he gets read only error now when try to upload
[10:39] <hondje> TokenBad: that means read only, that might be why no one can write to it :)
[10:39] <vHintswen> k
[10:39] <xed_bleh> My ISP hates me.
[10:39] <cary>  CPU frequency translation statistics (CPU_FREQ_STAT) [Y/n/m/?]  (NEW)
[10:39] <microhaxo> err
[10:39] <TokenBad> well it was set to rw
[10:40] <cary> pfp, what is that?
[10:40] <Chetic> xed_bleh, mine hates me too
[10:40] <TokenBad> I just now changed it
[10:40] <cary> pfp, i assume i hit yes...?
[10:40] <microhaxo> im new to linux, i Unzipped the contents to a folder
[10:40] <microhaxo> there is a .sh file
[10:40] <microhaxo> i ran it
[10:40] <xed_bleh> Chetic: I don't think you understand.. they hate me with a passion.
[10:40] <microhaxo> but it runs and closes the terminal
[10:40] <lsuactiafner> Chetic : as i said lspci and lsusb and check the chipset on the cam, from there google brandname +linux on google and yah
[10:40] <microhaxo> i dunno what it did
[10:40] <thoreauputic> gorthaug: esd is a pain - a lot of apps expect to use oss and esd locks the sound system
[10:40] <microhaxo> now what do i do?
[10:40] <cary> pfp, ahh..its something about the thermal thin
[10:40] <pfp> ho hmm, anyone know where's the default config for ubuntu's 2.6.11 source?
[10:40] <hondje> xed_bleh: you can comcast too, eh?
[10:40] <cary> g
[10:40] <xed_bleh> Chetic: They like to mess with my head.. my tiny little head.. at 4:30 in the MORNING
[10:40] <Chetic> xed_bleh, yeah mine too.. I've destroyed alot for them..
[10:40] <hondje> lousy ISP X-(
[10:40] <som1> microhaxo is there a readme in there?
[10:40] <microhaxo> lol yea
[10:40] <lsuactiafner> cary : are you making a kernel?
[10:41] <cary> lsuactiafner, soon, i guess.
[10:41] <TokenBad> hondje, I set it to ro just now..it was set to rw
[10:41] <som1> microhaxo its much better to follow it :p
[10:41] <microhaxo> i did
[10:41] <microhaxo> and
[10:41] <cary> lsuactiafner, in the process more like. i have never done this before
[10:41] <microhaxo> noting happened
[10:41] <microhaxo> its a small readme
[10:41] <lsuactiafner> cary : if you are dont ask us how to do it.. go read a HOWTO on the internet
[10:41] <xed_bleh> hondje: I have Rogers. its like "Sweet, now that he's signed the contract, we don't gotta actually PROVIDE him the an ISP, he just needs .. some sort of blinking light modem thingy"
[10:41] <microhaxo> lol
[10:41] <hondje> TokenBad: oh, I'd assume rw is what you'd want, if they can't write to it
[10:41] <cameron> hey yall!
[10:41] <som1> try to..use it
[10:41] <TokenBad> well it was set to rw
[10:41] <som1> lol
[10:41] <hondje> xed_bleh: Sounds like the .ca version of comcast :)
[10:41] <TokenBad> and they still couldn't
[10:41] <cameron> i ment to not say "yall" but actually hey all
[10:41] <hondje> TokenBad: what are they using to upload?
[10:41] <lsuactiafner> making a kernel is a very very good idea but its not something i help ppl with, read up on it yourself
[10:41] <TokenBad> ftp clients
[10:41] <TokenBad> windows based client
[10:42] <TokenBad> like cuteftp, bpftp
[10:42] <TokenBad> shit like that
[10:42] <hondje> TokenBad: perhaps it's application setting, then
[10:42] <lsuactiafner> TokenBad : whats this?
[10:42] <TokenBad> no its on my end
[10:42] <hondje> can you scp to the mount?
[10:42] <xed_bleh> hondje: comcast counds like a us version of rogers...
[10:42] <xed_bleh> Anywho, cable sucks. =(
[10:42] <cameron> hey guys, what is the name of that resource monitor bar thing i see on the right side of everonyes desktop, can i get that for ubuntu?
[10:42] <cary> pfp, i sent you the whole thing. i assume its just asking about proccesor stuff. like asking if iw ant to do that
[10:42] <pfp> cary: you can just go w/ the defaults, ie. press enter for everything
[10:42] <microhaxo> what the hell
[10:42] <microhaxo> "Azureus TERMINATED."
[10:42] <hondje> xed_bleh: 10+ times today I've lost connection for 10 minuts or so
[10:42] <lsuactiafner> TokenBad : use proftpd... as a server
[10:42] <cary> PFP, ROGER
[10:42] <cary> yikes..caps
[10:42] <xed_bleh> I think I'm going to have to format and re install Ubuntu =(
[10:42] <TokenBad> how would i unstall the shit that is on there now
[10:43] <TokenBad> so it not auto start
[10:43] <pfp> heh
[10:43] <hondje> apt-get remove --purge <foo>
[10:43] <lsuactiafner> cameron : gkgremlin or something...
[10:43] <xed_bleh> hondje: You're a lucky one eh?
[10:43] <hondje> xed_bleh: Blessed greatly
[10:43] <TokenBad> foo?
[10:43] <cary> pfp, done with that bit
[10:43] <xed_bleh> I've lost it over 20 times already.. just TODAY.. and its 4:30 AM RIGHT NOW
[10:43] <hondje> foo == general variable
[10:43] <cameron> thanks suacrianfer
[10:43] <hondje> xed_bleh: wow, I'm so lucky ;)
[10:43] <microhaxo> wth, when i run that stuff it says
[10:43] <microhaxo> Azureus TERMINATED.
[10:43] <xed_bleh> I'll get you back one day Rogers, I'll get you back!
[10:43] <microhaxo> dammit
[10:44] <xed_bleh> So.. I'm sort of screwed now
[10:44] <Eighth> how can i repair a broken library without uninstalling it?
[10:44] <vHintswen> nothing happened
[10:44] <xed_bleh> I have to re-format, re-install windows, ubuntu, reconfigure all this shit.. and possibly cry a bit..
[10:44] <TokenBad> says can't find the package pure-ftp or pureftp
[10:44] <lsuactiafner> cameron : look into lm-sensors
[10:44] <rob^> xed_bleh, theres no need to reinstall windows :P
[10:44] <cameron> lsuactiafner: google comes up with nothing for gkgremlin, and nothing for gtkgremlin
[10:44] <lsuactiafner> Eighth : just reinstall over the old one and hope for the best
[10:44] <cameron> lsuactiafner: oh ok i will
[10:45] <xed_bleh> rob^: Yes, there is. I have to make use of the TV Tuner card..
[10:45] <vHintswen> r0d, nothing happened
[10:45] <lsuactiafner> yeh forgot how to spell it
[10:45] <lsuactiafner> also checkin for it now lol
[10:45] <rob^> xed_bleh, no linux driver?
[10:45] <lsuactiafner> ive bene compilin a kernel on my p166 for the last 16hrs.. not a small kernel
[10:45] <gorthaug> thoreauputic: but I want to listen to mp3 while game
[10:45] <xed_bleh> rob^: I doubt it.. even if there was, I don't know if any software .. actually being able to let me watch TV in Ubuntu.
[10:46] <TokenBad> stupid program..if can't uninstall it...will have to reinstall
[10:46] <xed_bleh> of any software...*
[10:46] <vHintswen> o.o is r0d gone?
[10:46] <lsuactiafner> goto freshmeat.net check there
[10:46] <a-l-e> hello, i'm re-trying to start on my ubuntu on a firewire disk... now, i have to manipulate some linuxrc... but i'm not that confident with it... is there anybody able to able me or can anybody give me a good link to follow?
[10:46] <lsuactiafner> for programs to look @ tv
[10:46] <pfp> cary: ok, you should be ready to compile: make-kpkg kernel_image
[10:46] <r0d> vHintswen,  are you sure your mouse is plugged in? mice shouldnt be a problem
[10:46] <thoreauputic> gorthaug: well, if you feel adventurous, check the "fix sound" howto listed on http://ubuntuguide.org
[10:46] <xed_bleh> Ubuntu: WHY do you hate me!?
[10:46] <learn25> hi all ;-)
[10:46] <cary> pfp, from what dir
[10:47] <rob^> xed_bleh, what type of card is it?
[10:47] <vHintswen> it is... it worked when i had windows on there
[10:47] <vHintswen> i'll check just in case...
[10:47] <pfp> cary: in the same linux-2.6.xx dir
[10:47] <r0d> vHintswen,  you did 'ls /dev | grep psaux'
[10:47] <xed_bleh> rob^: I'm about to put this old ATI Rage 128 Pro in there..
[10:47] <pfp> cary: compiling will take quite a while then
[10:47] <xed_bleh> Its going to be sweet. My pentium II will be the ULTIMATE ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM!
[10:47] <cary> pfp, doing it now presumably
[10:47] <TokenBad> hondje, says can't find that package
[10:47] <learn25> how to install a plugin that will crossfade songs in xmms?
[10:47] <TokenBad> but know its installed
[10:47] <hondje> TokenBad: what package?
[10:47] <xed_bleh> I swear to you.. Ubuntu hates me.
[10:47] <TokenBad> the pure-ftp
[10:48] <hondje> TokenBad: oh, I don't think that was me :)
[10:48] <xed_bleh> Ubuntu.. hates me.
[10:48] <hondje> I use vsftpd, or just sftp
[10:48] <pfp> cary: it should also print out lots of stuff; don't get scared :)
[10:48] <thoreauputic> gorthaug: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[10:48] <learn25> hi! How to install a plugin that will crossfade songs in xmms?
[10:48] <TokenBad> hondje apt-get remove --purge <foo>
[10:49] <lsuactiafner> pfp : we both know he will screw his boot partition and his backup kernel up..guiding someone on irc is a bad idea, make em read a HOWTO
[10:49] <cary> pfp, oh its printing. its printing like the wind blows
[10:49] <hondje> TokenBad: <foo> is whatever you're trying to remove
[10:49] <TokenBad> I know
[10:49] <TokenBad> got that part
[10:49] <vHintswen> o.o it's weird
[10:49] <hondje> oh, 10-4
[10:49] <TokenBad> and when put pure-ftp in
[10:49] <vHintswen> i thought it ps2
[10:49] <HawkeVIPER> try pure-ftpd
[10:49] <vHintswen> it's a 9 pin(female) thing
[10:49] <rob^> xed_bleh, do a search on google for "ubuntu ATI Rage 128 Pro" on how to install the drivers for your tv card, and check out howto: http://www.freeos.com/articles/3007/
[10:49] <vHintswen> geeze it's strange
[10:50] <lsuactiafner> learn25 : goto freshmeat.net and type xmms and look @ related software.. or apt-cache search cross and search xmms
[10:50] <HawkeVIPER> vHintswen: a serial connector
[10:50] <TokenBad> now I feel stupid
[10:50] <vHintswen> yeah that's it lol
[10:50] <TokenBad> heheh
[10:50] <vHintswen> ' ls /dev | grep psaux'
[10:50] <pfp> lsuactiafner: hmm, you could be right, however, kernel .debs should install cleanly to grub afaik
[10:50] <HawkeVIPER> I went into a store and asked for a null modem cable
[10:50] <vHintswen> what's stranger is that it doesn't ask for my password
[10:50] <rob^> xed_bleh, there is two different tv viewer programs for linux, Kwintv and xawtv
[10:50] <HawkeVIPER> and they just looked at me like I was the devil spawn or something
[10:50] <xed_bleh> rob^: right now, I need to actually get ubuntu WORKING
[10:50] <HawkeVIPER> vHintswen: have you already entered it in the last 5 mins?
[10:50] <vHintswen> it asks for username and after i enter that it don't ask for password
[10:50] <vHintswen> no
[10:51] <rob^> xed_bleh, whats the problem your having
[10:51] <HawkeVIPER> oh
[10:51] <kmikz> ok.... trying to make the sound to work on ubuntu for 2 days now...... and no, the sound is not muted in alsamixer, nor is it muted anywhere else... tried to kill esd, but to no avail.........followed the instructions in http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly but no luck there either... i googled and i wikied and it doesnt work... HELP
[10:51] <vHintswen> would it make a difference?
[10:51] <r0d> vHintswen,  well linux see's your mouse
[10:51] <vHintswen> so...
[10:51] <r0d> it might be a X problem
[10:51] <lsuactiafner> kmikz : this is where you hit the ppl making your kernel over the head..
[10:51] <vHintswen> meaning?
[10:52] <lsuactiafner> kmikz : prolly you kernel is loading the wrong module.. so lspci check what sound card you got and the google that +linux
[10:52] <r0d> whats the command that lets your configure your X configurations?
[10:52] <lsuactiafner> rmmod the modules you dont need, and modprobe the correct sound module
[10:52] <pfp> lsuactiafner: i figured he wouldn't understand everything from a howto, so this would be way to get started
[10:52] <r0d> vHintswen,  i forget the command, its been awhile since i had to
[10:52] <Eighth> when i try to install libkrb53, dpkg says i have unmet dependencies.  when i use apt-get -f install, it wants to remove 108 packages... someone wanna walk me thru reinstalling this lib, plz?
[10:53] <vHintswen> maybe installing linux was a bad idea :(
[10:53] <Eighth> vHintswen: i doubt it very much
[10:53] <r0d> hld a sec vHintswen . you need to research more too.
[10:53] <kmikz> lsuactiafner, thx i'll try that too... it's a SIS chip on my mobo
[10:53] <lsuactiafner> pfp : ive told many ppl how to make kernels.. doesnt work on irc..
[10:53] <thoreauputic> r0d: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:54] <r0d>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:54] <lsuactiafner> pfp : beter to make em read a howto, screw it up 3 times and then somehow they get it right
[10:54] <TokenBad> ok who has install proftpd?
[10:54] <pfp> lsuactiafner: heh, k
[10:54] <r0d> thx thoreauputic . vHintswen  use that command
[10:54] <hondje> I work with a guy, has a masters in some CS stuff, can't roll his own kernel for the life of him
[10:54] <lsuactiafner> pfp : just make sure he has got a backup kernel and that his boot sector is updated ect
[10:54] <HawkeVIPER> most university fucks are like that
[10:55] <HawkeVIPER> all the technical experience of a dead snail
[10:55] <lsuactiafner> hondje : my p166 boxen is so old the new kernels dont work on it anymore
[10:55] <vHintswen> ?
[10:55] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: Hey now, I'm a university fuck :)
[10:55] <vHintswen> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[10:55] <HawkeVIPER> hondje: present company excepted
[10:55] <HawkeVIPER> =P
[10:55] <TokenBad> lsuactiafner, you installed proftpd?
[10:55] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: Though not computer university fuck ;-)
[10:55] <r0d> *bangs head on wall*
[10:55] <HawkeVIPER> well there ya go
[10:55] <r0d>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:55] <lsuactiafner> hondje : so my default .config doesnt work, but the vmlinuz one from slackware worked.. so somewhere my .config needs one setting changed, like access to pci via bios not direct once caused shit..
[10:55] <xed_bleh> DEAR GOD!
[10:55] <lsuactiafner> so i'm compiling a huge kernel now and taking out what aint needed 1 by 1
[10:55] <hondje> lsuactiafner: ouch, at least you had the slack .config to use
[10:56] <lsuactiafner> been compiling 16hrs
[10:56] <xed_bleh> I have a 12 hour shift today and I am seeing the sun come up ... AGAIN >.<
[10:56] <HawkeVIPER> I dropped out of college... so I get annoyed at the fact that people who know absolutely fuck all can get sysadmin jobs and put me out of work
[10:56] <lsuactiafner> wow its done coooooll
[10:56] <HawkeVIPER> oh, and get paid more
[10:56] <TokenBad> should I do proftpd as inetd or standalone?
[10:56] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: yeah, that probably gets old fast
[10:56] <HawkeVIPER> TokenBad: up to you
[10:56] <TokenBad> whats difference?
[10:56] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: ironically, they get pissed when a guy like me, with no formal computer education, edges in on their turf :)
[10:56] <HawkeVIPER> one loads with inetd... one loads with the system...
[10:56] <lsuactiafner> also the p166 doesnt have a screen so everytime i screw a kernel i got to slug it up and get a sreen to it..
[10:57] <HawkeVIPER> hondje: it's because they know that they know nothing
[10:57] <lsuactiafner> very annoyin
[10:57] <HawkeVIPER> I prove it daily
[10:57] <vHintswen> nothing happens
[10:57] <Eighth> lsuactiafner: how should i go about reinstalling that lib?
[10:57] <rob^> ok, this might be a stupid question, but are there .debs available for americas army?
[10:57] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: They know lots of useless stuff :-)
[10:57] <TokenBad> so no advantage of one over the other?
[10:57] <hondje> rob^: no, but the installer works fine
[10:57] <lsuactiafner> hmmk cant reboot now.. stupid r7 callmore..
[10:57] <HawkeVIPER> hondje: like the black box diagram of computing...
[10:57] <vHintswen> :(
[10:57] <r0d> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:57] <lsuactiafner> Eighth : just apt-get install
[10:57] <rob^> hondje, thought so :)
[10:57] <cdc> i am unable to use apt itself
[10:57] <r0d> it should vHintswen
[10:57] <lsuactiafner> overwrite everything
[10:57] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: or basic digital logic, which is really lame :)
[10:57] <HawkeVIPER> lol
[10:57] <cdc> hondje, help me i am unable to use apt itself
[10:57] <hondje> omfg! xor is neat!
[10:57] <r0d> dont know understand how ubuntu cant see your mouse
[10:57] <HawkeVIPER> they spend hours learning ASM
[10:57] <hondje> cdc: hrm, what errors?
[10:57] <HawkeVIPER> but don't know what it's used for
[10:57] <TokenBad> Setting up proftpd (1.2.10-8) ...
[10:57] <TokenBad> ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration.
[10:58] <TokenBad> wtf!!
[10:58] <hondje> cdc: I can't use dcc
[10:58] <hondje> cdc: just /msg hondje <stuff>
[10:58] <HawkeVIPER> and they develop these weird fantasies that they can code in C
[10:58] <HawkeVIPER> and it's all back asswards
[10:58] <hondje> yeah
[10:58] <lsuactiafner> TokenBad : edit /etc/proftpd.conf the standalone inetd lines
[10:58] <r0d> maybe someone here w/ more experience w/ that problem can help you in here vHintswen
[10:58] <HawkeVIPER> and they wonder why it seg fault
[10:58] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: I get them back, I write shit in fortran :D
[10:58] <Eighth> lsuactiafner: when i do, apt reports unmet dependencies.. when i use -f install, it wants to remove 108 packages
[10:58] <cdc> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:58] <cdc> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:58] <hondje> cdc: ack, query :)
[10:58] <HawkeVIPER> hondje: my favorite is to write bash script in <50 lines to do what their 300 line C prog did
[10:59] <vHintswen> don'
[10:59] <vHintswen> t work
[10:59] <thoreauputic> cdc: and did you do what it said?
[10:59] <lsuactiafner> Eighth : apt might be tryingto install a new version of the package.. and the new version aint compatable hehehehe
[10:59] <xed_bleh> SO.. installing Ubuntu on this pentium II maybe wasn't the greatest idea, I guess =(
[10:59] <vHintswen> no commands r working
[10:59] <kmikz> well it seems i got it working
[10:59] <HawkeVIPER> hondje: syn, reply =P
[10:59] <lsuactiafner> Eighth : you be teh screwed, find the old version on your cd..
[10:59] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: Now I can work away from them, it's amusing to watch stuff like that ;-)
[10:59] <HawkeVIPER> wee back asswards r0x0rs
[10:59] <cdc> thoreauputic, yes uncommented out everything
[10:59] <kmikz> i had to mute the capture monitor
[10:59] <rob^> xed_bleh, if you want to ask a question, just ask
[10:59] <microhaxo> guys, i have a WINEcvs.sh file, whenever i try to run it it says command not found?
[10:59] <HawkeVIPER> mmm... I get to deal with customers
[10:59] <HawkeVIPER> who think they know it all too
[10:59] <Eighth> lsuactiafner: is there some way i can tell apt to forget about removing those packages?
[10:59] <vHintswen> after i press ctrl+alt+backspacve is says Ubuntu username:
[11:00] <hondje> Now I just make pretty pictures w/ gnuplot and the like
[11:00] <lsuactiafner> xed_bleh : ubuntu is for desktops.. slackware is for p2 servers.. with no screen card monitor ect
[11:00] <vHintswen> i enter my username and press enter
[11:00] <thoreauputic> cdc: no - did you run " sudo apt-get update" ?
[11:00] <vHintswen> shuldn't is say ubuntu password: now?
[11:00] <HawkeVIPER> hondje: I'm a lvl III sysadmin for a webhost
[11:00] <vHintswen> it*
[11:00] <lsuactiafner> Eighth : wish i knew, apt is very annoyin sometimes
[11:00] <r0d> vHintswen,  yea
[11:00] <vHintswen> cause it doesn't
[11:00] <cdc> thoreauputic, yes
[11:00] <Eighth> agreed
[11:00] <cdc> i did run it
[11:00] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: technically I'm some sort of data analyst
[11:00] <lsuactiafner> ok later.
[11:00] <r0d> run 'passwd'
[11:00] <TokenBad> lsuactiafner, edit it to what?
[11:00] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: but like most jobs, that's total BS :)
[11:00] <HawkeVIPER> indeed
[11:00] <lsuactiafner> ServerType                      standalone
[11:00] <HawkeVIPER> ever asked the pimps if they know what 'analyst' means?
[11:01] <lsuactiafner> #ServerType                     inetd
[11:01] <lsuactiafner> the file /etc/proftpd.conf
[11:01] <hondje> customer gives data, and if it's up my alley I whip out smoe matlab/fortran/C++/gnuplot goodness and make a powerpoint
[11:01] <TokenBad> I just see servertype inetd
[11:01] <vHintswen> nothing
[11:01] <lsuactiafner> analyst is the guy who gets laid just for making leet money
[11:01] <vHintswen> >:(
[11:01] <hondje> bling ;-)
[11:01] <christos> hello. i see in syaptic [ackage manager that i have dvd+rw-tools installed. where are those tools?
[11:01] <hondje> Hopefully in a couple months I'll be teaching a math class instead
[11:01] <HawkeVIPER> mmm... I need to inject my salary somewhat
[11:01] <HawkeVIPER> need to move inhouse somewhere
[11:01] <lsuactiafner> TokenBad : so # the ServerType inetd and add the line ServerType standalone
[11:01] <HawkeVIPER> back to england me thinks
[11:02] <bob2> christos: 'dpkg -L dvd+rw-tools' will print out the files the package contains
[11:02] <TokenBad> oh
[11:02] <pfp> cary: i have to go (i'm moving), but i'll be around later today (or whatever the timezone)
[11:02] <thoreauputic> xed_bleh: FWIW, I have ubuntu running happily on a pentium 200mmx 64MB RAM (right next to me)
[11:02] <microhaxo> aww shit
[11:02] <cary> pfp
[11:02] <vHintswen> omg i don't know why i bothered.
[11:02] <cary> what woudl be my next step be?
[11:02] <vHintswen> always stuffs up
[11:02] <HawkeVIPER> thoreauputic: I've got a FreeBSD 486 webserver
[11:02] <lsuactiafner> i have a p166 42mb ram with the original f00f bug!!
[11:02] <HawkeVIPER> =P
[11:02] <lsuactiafner> it rocks
[11:02] <microhaxo> whats root password for dx9wine cvs?
[11:02] <cary> what woudl be my next step be?, pfp
[11:02] <microhaxo> isnt it cvs?
[11:02] <lsuactiafner> goonna mod the boxen to look really cool one day
[11:03] <hondje> soekris!
[11:03] <cary> pfp or is there some place that can show me where to go from here?
[11:03] <hondje> those things are so cool
[11:03] <TokenBad> whats command to try and restart it?
[11:03] <thoreauputic> HawkeVIPER: nice :)
[11:03] <vHintswen> r0d, nothing happens
[11:03] <lsuactiafner> going to show my kids in 20 yrs and tell em to fsck off and leave my leet pc alone
[11:03] <HawkeVIPER> thoreauputic: it's slung into a random rack at the DC
[11:03] <hondje> my bud just swapped out the hdd with a big ol' CF drive, neatest little thing running OBSD
[11:03] <vHintswen> nothing happens no matter what i type
[11:03] <HawkeVIPER> more bandwidth than it could ever handle
[11:03] <HawkeVIPER> it was just to prove something to the idiot customers who complain that they don't have enough resources
[11:03] <xed_bleh> I need to create an AI that can answer all questions.
[11:03] <cary> pfp, and thank you so much.
[11:04] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: hehe
[11:04] <lsuactiafner> cary : if it doesnt reboot come hit pfp over the head
[11:04] <TokenBad> lsuactiafner, whats command to try and restart proftpd now that edited?
[11:04] <christos> to burn dvd's should i install gnome baker or is there anything better?
[11:04] <lsuactiafner> run proftpd
[11:04] <Eighth> stupid broken stuff... now i have to reboot :/
[11:04] <bob2> christos: nautilus does it fine
[11:04] <HawkeVIPER> xcdroast, k3b...
[11:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone ever setup ubuntu on a p233?
[11:04] <microhaxo> Guys, im using a .sh to download DIRECTX9WINE, it is asking for the root password to dload the source, do yu guys know waht that password is?!
[11:05] <lsuactiafner> ChurcH_of_FoamY : i showed my p166 the cd and it started to cry.
[11:05] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I have it running on a p200
[11:05] <HawkeVIPER> thoreauputic xed_bleh: FWIW, I have ubuntu running happily on a pentium 200mmx 64MB RAM (right next to me)
[11:05] <HawkeVIPER> ah
[11:05] <cary> lsuactiafner, hah. awesome. so at the end of this compiling it shoudl reboot?
[11:05] <bob2> microhaxo: you're running it wrong
[11:05] <HawkeVIPER> too late
[11:05] <HawkeVIPER> lol
[11:05] <christos> bob2: what about iso's?
[11:05] <bob2> microhaxo: run it under sudo
[11:05] <microhaxo> k
[11:05] <bob2> christos: I don't know what you mean
[11:05] <lsuactiafner> cary : it shoudl but it wont. you got to edit grub or lilo now, ask pfp
[11:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm setting it up now on a compaq 233 with 64mb pc 100
[11:05] <cary> bob2, hey. just saying hi. how areyou
[11:05] <bob2> christos: yo ucan right click on a cd image and select "write" to have nautilus write to a disk
[11:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and it's actually working
[11:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_o
[11:05] <HawkeVIPER> mmm
[11:05] <bob2> cary: good, thanks, your self?
[11:05] <thoreauputic> it's running fluxbox, not gnome, of course :)
[11:05] <christos> bob2: ok thanks!
[11:05] <hondje> nautilus cd burning is all hondje needs
[11:05] <vHintswen> ...
[11:05] <HawkeVIPER> I should go reclaim ophelia
[11:05] <xed_bleh> bob2's back?
[11:05] <xed_bleh> hoooraaaaa
[11:06] <hondje> it's the optimum method
[11:06] <HawkeVIPER> and install something on her
[11:06] <cary> lsuactiafner, pfp is going bye bye for now. where can i go or who can i ask what the next step as after compiling
[11:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> would fluxbox be easyer on the onboard vid card?
[11:06] <vHintswen> ........................................................................................
[11:06] <microhaxo> bob2 thanks
[11:06] <xed_bleh> I think its time for me to do a clean format.
[11:06] <HawkeVIPER> ChurcH_of_FoamY: yes
[11:06] <cary> bob2, pretty well. its 4 am so im tired but hey..im compiling my first kernel!
[11:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok
[11:06] <bob2> cary: hehehe
[11:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i have never installed it is it easy?
[11:06] <HawkeVIPER> in fact
[11:06] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: or icewm, blackbox.. whatever
[11:06] <lsuactiafner> cary : read something. i'm going also.. google kernel compile HOWTO
[11:06] <microhaxo> dammit
[11:06] <HawkeVIPER> I'm going to go get ophelia before work
[11:06] <HawkeVIPER> gimme something to do
[11:06] <HawkeVIPER> bbiab
[11:06] <lsuactiafner> and i'm out..
[11:06] <microhaxo> why the hell does this always happen
[11:06] <cary> bob2, or rather pfp has been telling me what to do
[11:06] <cary> lsuactiafner, thanks man.
[11:07] <vHintswen> o.o
[11:07] <lsuactiafner> someone help the poor guy..
[11:07] <cary> lsuactiafner, haha. i am cary the pitiful, apparently.
[11:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> WOW never herd a cd-rom make that noise before :/
[11:07] <lsuactiafner> cary : ask in a slackware channel. ubuntu ppl dont do things like kernels..
[11:07] <bob2> lsuactiafner: wtf
[11:07] <bob2> lsuactiafner: please don't spread such silly lies like that, thanks
[11:07] <cary> lsuactiafner, what do you mean?
[11:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok that was new gonna have to make a warning sighn for my wall
[11:08] <thoreauputic> lsuactiafner: bad advice - there's a Debian way for kernels
[11:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> beware of flying cd's O_o
[11:08] <r0d> lsuactiafner,  I custimized my kernel from source
[11:08] <hondje> make-kpkg is too hard for hondje :(  I just use distro defaults
[11:08] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : ppl in ubuntu will advise you to use apt-get for kernels.. they dont know how to compile kenrels.. most of em
[11:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it just shot my last copy of ubuntu acrost the room
[11:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> :(
[11:09] <bob2> lsuactiafner: sure, because the ubuntu kernel works for nearly everyone out of the box
[11:09] <r0d> lsuactiafner,  you can apt-get your sources
[11:09] <hondje> lsuactiafner: for the most part, they don't need to
[11:09] <lsuactiafner> so ppl in this channel dont know how to help cary .. ask in a server distro channel
[11:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> stupid front loading cd rom
[11:09] <concept10> whos trying to compile a kernel
[11:09] <bob2> lsuactiafner: please stop with the lame trolling
[11:09] <vHintswen> omg...
[11:09] <vHintswen> /me wants windows back
[11:09] <bob2> ubuntu is a "server distro"
[11:09] <cary> concept10, i am. its compiling now. im looking up what to do next
[11:09] <concept10> what have you done?
[11:09] <TokenBad> I give up...try to ftp in and it says some error about pure-ftp
[11:09] <TokenBad> like its still loading
[11:09] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : didnt work for me.. the ppl for whom it works come here and tell you it worked, but for the 10% of ppl who install, cant boot, doesnt complain and go back to windows.. you dont even know about em
[11:09] <rob^> vHintswen, well why are you hanging around here then?
[11:10] <vHintswen> lol well maybe i could fix it
[11:10] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : ubuntu aint a server and you know that
[11:10] <bob2> lsuactiafner: er, so, they need to file bugs
[11:10] <lsuactiafner> freebsd is a server.
[11:10] <bob2> lsuactiafner: oh, stop it, don't be a moron
[11:10] <cary> concept10, i apt-get'ed 2.6.11 (.8 i think) then applied some powerbook patches, now its compiling
[11:10] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : but they dont.. you know that
[11:10] <bob2> lots of people run servers on ubuntu, including me
[11:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[11:10] <Eighth> ok... so apache is working now, but i still have the problem of 'unresolved dependencies' from when i tried to install libkrb53... how do i tell apt-get to forget that ever happened?
[11:10] <Markuman> i've problems to install paint shop pro with wine...
[11:10] <thoreauputic> lsuactiafner: that would be why ubuntu.com runs on ubuntu...
[11:10] <r0d> lsuactiafner,  I came from gentoo, and I like doing it.  its not hard lsuactiafner .....
[11:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[11:10] <r0d> ouch
[11:11] <hondje> bob2: what are you serving w/ ubuntu? Production env?
[11:11] <xed> AGGGHG!!!
[11:11] <xed> qt_parted is uselss!!!!
[11:11] <lsuactiafner> ah cmon
[11:11] <cary> hahah
[11:11] <xed> useless you hear me! USELESS!!!!
[11:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no it's not it's actually a very good prog
[11:11] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : ubuntu is a desktop, ive been told that many times.
[11:11] <bob2> hondje: yes
[11:11] <vHintswen> any idea why commands are not working?
[11:11] <bob2> lsuactiafner: I really don't care
[11:11] <vHintswen> or shuld i just go downstairs
[11:11] <bob2> lsuactiafner: your opinions are your own, but spreading fud is silly
[11:11] <thoreauputic>  lsuactiafner: that would be why ubuntu.com runs on ubuntu..
[11:11] <concept10> lsuactiafner, linux is linux remember that
[11:11] <xed> You can't resize the friggin partition WITH THE OS on it.. which basically has all of the space.
[11:11] <r0d> lsuactiafner,  u dont know what your talking about
[11:12] <cary> concept10, how long does it generally take to compile a kernel?
[11:12] <cary> concept10, (im in the drivers)
[11:12] <vHintswen> anyone got any ideas??
[11:13] <thoreauputic> cary: depends on your machine
[11:13] <cdc> how to play mp3s in ubuntu
[11:13] <cdc> i am unable to play any mp3s in ubuntu
[11:13] <concept10> cary, I dont know .  it depends on how much you are compiling and your machine speed
[11:13] <cary> thoreauputic, minutes or hours?
[11:13] <bob2> cdc: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:13] <bob2> cdc: this is in the faq, btw
[11:13] <cdc> bob2, that means ppl using ubuntu cant play mp3s
[11:13] <cdc> :-o
[11:13] <lsuactiafner> cary : amd64 3200 minutes.. p166 18hrs if its a huge big kernel..
[11:13] <bob2> cdc: er, no, it doesn't
[11:14] <cary> hey wow. i am even able to play mp3s!
[11:14] <cary> not tha tmy audio works for crap
[11:14] <cary> okay, so i should go to bed then, and not wait for this to finish compiling?
[11:14] <r0d> lol
[11:14] <concept10> cary, why are you compiling a kernel (just curious)
[11:14] <lsuactiafner> cary : what machine you got?
[11:14] <r0d> no man not that long cary
[11:14] <cdc> cary, u r able to play mp3s ?
[11:14] <cdc> cary, how is it whats to be done?
[11:15] <vHintswen> has everyone got me on ignore or something?!?
[11:15] <bob2> cdc: read that wiki page, it expains how to set it up
[11:15] <r0d> cary needs to patch his kernel
[11:15] <bob2> vHintswen: if you want help, you need to ask clear, informed questions
[11:15] <concept10> vHintswen, whats your question
[11:15] <vHintswen> Does anyone here know who my mouse isn't working or why no commands work?
[11:15] <vHintswen> why*
[11:15] <cary> concept10, i am compiling a kernel so i can apply patches to it that will make my powerbook work better
[11:15] <bob2> define "no commands work"
[11:15] <lsuactiafner> cant wait for openmosix patch for the 2.6 series
[11:16] <vHintswen> when i type in a command nothing happens
[11:16] <concept10> cary, sounds great  I did a one the other day
[11:16] <cary> concept10, there are cpu and audio patches, as well as one fo rthe temp guage.  my audio is crap right now.
[11:16] <bob2> vHintswen: where? for example?
[11:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> maybey it takes a min?
[11:16] <cary> r0d, cool.
[11:16] <pfp> gagz
[11:17] <cary> cdc, follow the link bob2 sent you. its fairly straight forward given the basics of linux (which i really dont knwo)
[11:17] <vHintswen> i don't know what it's called, when you press ctrl+alt+backspace, there's where commands don't work
[11:17] <cary> you'll need to go to
[11:17] <vHintswen> and mouse doesn't work anywhere
[11:17] <r0d> cary,  what command did you use 'make && make module_install'?
[11:17] <thoreauputic> bob2: Sunday has arrived a day early, methinks ;)
[11:17] <bob2> vHintswen: "don't work"?  you can't see anything printed when you type?
[11:17] <bob2> thoreauputic: hah
[11:17] <cary> cdc, youll need to go to system>admin>synaptic and enable all your universe and multiverse stuffs. just read that site
[11:17] <Eighth> ok... so apache is working now, but i still have the problem of 'unresolved dependencies' from when i tried to install libkrb53... how do i tell apt-get to forget that ever happened?
[11:18] <vHintswen> after i type in a command it just goes to the next line, it doesn'tgive me any message in return to say it has done anything
[11:18] <microhaxo> Bob2, can you help me, directx9wine wont compile, i get errors  C compiler cannot create executables
[11:18] <thoreauputic> vHintswen: silence is golden :)
[11:18] <cary> lord i dont even know now. i pasted what pfp sent me and thats off the channel now and lord knows its gone from terminal
[11:18] <vHintswen> not always
[11:18] <r0d> hehe
[11:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how do compaqs run ubuntu? pritty well?
[11:18] <r0d> im sur he told you that.
[11:18] <pfp> cary: heh, still here, though i'm really out in 10min.  ...
[11:18] <bob2> vHintswen: so, what command?
[11:18] <thoreauputic> vHintswen: example of such a command?
[11:18] <bob2> vHintswen: most commands don't print anything at all
[11:18] <cary> pfp..what the heck did i do?
[11:19] <bob2> vHintswen: (unless something went wrong)
[11:19] <vHintswen> 'ls /dev | grep psaux'
[11:19] <bob2> microhaxo: install the build-essential package
[11:19] <r0d> pfp,  did you tell cary to use 'make && make module_install'?
[11:19] <pfp> cary: after it's compiled, you need to 1) install the kernel package 2) make sure your boot loader is ok. i actually forgot that you're on a Mac; that makes any advice on LILO or GRUB useless to you
[11:19] <cary> pfp, and lsuactiafner was saying i have more junks to do after this
[11:19] <bob2> vHintswen: well, of course, that means there's no file called psaux in /dev
[11:19] <microhaxo> bob2
[11:19] <pfp> r0d: no
[11:19] <vHintswen> 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[11:19] <microhaxo> i did
[11:19] <microhaxo> build-essential is already the newest version.
[11:19] <microhaxo> still doesnt work?
[11:19] <bob2> microhaxo: talk to the wine people
[11:19] <microhaxo> i am
[11:19] <microhaxo> lol
[11:19] <bob2> microhaxo: try 'rm config.cache'
[11:20] <zerokills> how do i install a .rpm file?
[11:20] <thoreauputic> vHintswen: do you have xserver-xorg installed/
[11:20] <r0d> pfp,  what command, just 'make' he asked if it would take along time to compile
[11:20] <lsuactiafner> microhaxo : default ubuntu installs dont like to compile.. so you will need to install more libs and dependancies
[11:20] <bob2> zerokills: what is it?
[11:20] <vHintswen> what's a command that will print something so i can check if it's working?
[11:20] <bob2> lsuactiafner: which he/she ha installed now
[11:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how is ubuntu with isa cards?
[11:20] <bob2> vHintswen: ls /etc
[11:20] <zerokills> bob2: its a program
[11:20] <thoreauputic> vHintswen: try ls -al
[11:20] <bob2> zerokills: indeed.  which program?
[11:20] <pfp> r0d: he's using make-kpgk kernel_image, and running as a normal user, so he can't have messed up anything yet
[11:20] <r0d> ok
[11:20] <zerokills> bob2" limewire
[11:21] <bob2> zerokills: it's probably easier to just get the tarball of their site
[11:21] <concept10> lsuactiafner, you should stop smoking
[11:21] <cary> pfp, good to know its apparently not possible for me to have janekd this up yet
[11:21] <pfp> r0d: also, because it's a macintosh, grub or lilo won't be present
[11:21] <cary> good lord there are so many drives
[11:21] <cary> drivers*
[11:21] <newuser> Hey, excuse me
[11:21] <r0d> pfp,  apples dont use grub? interesting!
[11:21] <newuser> Does anyone watch anime?
[11:21] <peppo> is there an easy way to show _BUILD_ dependencies for a piece of software? I'm going to build Ardour at an internetless machine, and beside scons it seems to need libstdc++5-dev, but what more?
[11:21] <newuser> Sorry for off the topic
[11:22] <hondje> newuser: my wife does
[11:22] <zerokills> bob2: where do i get the tarball?
[11:22] <hondje> wierdo asians
[11:22] <bob2> peppo: apt-cache showsrc ardour
[11:22] <newuser> Well, you've seen Lain correct?
[11:22] <bob2> hondje: er?
[11:22] <vHintswen> both 'ls /etc' and 'ls -al' print nothing
[11:22] <newuser> Lain Serial Experiments
[11:22] <hondje> bob2: my wife, she's a wierdo asian
[11:22] <pfp> cary: yep, you need sudo / root to break anything ,)
[11:22] <xed> So.. I'm going to go ahead.. and just wait for this download of the new ubuntu to finish, and try that out.
[11:22] <lsuactiafner> argh i'm going to get kicked again if i defend myself so stop bashing me. ive always been told HERE ubuntu is a desktop, everytime i complained build-essentials should be a default package, any server should have development tools and a complte network package series..
[11:22] <hondje> newuser: Yes, she has that one
[11:22] <bob2> newuser: this doesn't seem to have anything to do with ubuntu
[11:22] <xed> I've already partitioned out the resierf.. or whatever thats called, and made the linux swap ready for the CD
[11:22] <pfp> r0d: afaik grub is pc-only
[11:22] <thoreauputic> vHintswen: OK in that case your install is b0rked
[11:22] <bob2> lsuactiafner: no, please stop it
[11:22] <lsuactiafner> but ubuntu is a very very good desktop
[11:23] <lsuactiafner> its outstanding on the desktop
[11:23] <bob2> lsuactiafner: if clueless people have told you things, it doesn't make it true
[11:23] <newuser> Well in Lain, correct the girl seems to have her monitor as the way she sees things.
[11:23] <xed> I'm going to sleep and hoping I don't remember this all too well in the morning.
[11:23] <xed> Good day to you sirs.
[11:23] <vHintswen> so what can i do?
[11:23] <newuser> Like her Dekstop for I say..
[11:23] <newuser> Is that possible with Ubuntu
[11:23] <newuser> Since it is, an..
[11:23] <cary> pfp...woohoo. im wondering if i even have a "little" enoguh knowledge to be dangerous yet.
[11:23] <newuser> Open source correct?
[11:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there spider solitare for ubuntu?
[11:23] <hondje> newuser: I don't follow, man :)
[11:23] <newuser> No lady actually,
[11:23] <hondje> 'like her desktop for I say' lost me
[11:23] <newuser> Girl...
[11:23] <newuser> Anyway I want to configure my system
[11:23] <newuser> In the way I see everything fit, like in
[11:23] <newuser> Dekstop for insay,
[11:24] <newuser> Is that possible?
[11:24] <zerokills> bob2: i dont know what a tarball is, ive heard the term but never used it
[11:24] <newuser> I know it looks cool, and everything
[11:24] <vHintswen> thoreauputic what can i do to fix it?
[11:24] <bob2> newuser: what's your native language
[11:24] <bob2> ?
[11:24] <r0d> bob2,  when you make a ubuntu server, does it trim the kernel down at all?
[11:24] <bob2> zerokills: just like a .zip file
[11:24] <newuser> I'm sorry I am only in the 6th grade
[11:24] <barbas> hi everybody.
[11:24] <bob2> r0d: how would you trim it down?
[11:24] <newuser> I am only trying to figure this out
[11:24] <bob2> ChurcH_of_FoamY: there's lots of solitaire programs
[11:24] <cary> pfp, is installing the kernel especially hard, and how do i check my boot loader?
[11:24] <zerokills> bob2: ok, found the .zip file, how do i install it?
[11:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> swwet
[11:24] <newuser> But, I'f I want to configure my entire system
[11:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> sweet even
[11:24] <vHintswen> o.o
[11:24] <newuser> Can I configure it, like how I see it
[11:25] <hondje> newuser: feel free to msg me, maybe I can figure out what you need
[11:25] <newuser> In my mind..
[11:25] <r0d> bob2,  like alsa....etc
[11:25] <vHintswen> thoreauputic u there?
[11:25] <concept10> lsuactiafner, sorry.  I wasnt bashing you.  You just make wild statements like "Ubuntu doesnt like to compile stuff with default installation"  it could be "The default Ubuntu installation doesn't include some development tools, you must install them"  (Which is not hard to do)
[11:25] <bob2> newuser: you seem to be very confused
[11:25] <hondje> newuser: oh, you mean like the layout, the theme?
[11:25] <thoreauputic> vHintswen: if ls /etc returns nothing , I'd say it's time to reinstall : it suggests nothing will work at all
[11:25] <cary> general question: how woudl i make sure my default boot choice (for when it times out) is os x, not ubuntu?
[11:25] <newuser> ....
[11:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the lady i'm building this system for wants only to play solitare and tetris
[11:25] <bob2> newuser: try to formulate what you mean, then start talking
[11:25] <newuser> I'm sorry..
[11:25] <newuser> I am confused..
[11:25] <bob2> r0d: no
[11:25] <vHintswen> re-install from same cd would fix?
[11:25] <barbas> Could someone go to the site http://www.in.gr with firefox, print the page in a file with firefox and tell if the printout is the same with the content displayed on the screen?
[11:25] <bob2> r0d: how would that help?  getting rid of them would only save a little bit of disk space (they don't use ram unless they're loaded)
[11:26] <r0d> i guess. I just always think that way. if it isnt needed, dont have it
[11:26] <bob2> cary: edit the yaboot config
[11:26] <pfp> cary: actually, heh, i don't remember, it's been a few years since i had linux on a mac (pc differs in this vs. mac vs. other architectures)
[11:26] <concept10> bob2, do you find this hard to manage sometimes?
[11:26] <bob2> r0d: if you really care, it's simple to build a custom kernel
[11:26] <bob2> concept10: which?
[11:26] <r0d> i know
[11:26] <newuser> In a specific way of detail..
[11:26] <r0d> just asking for furture builds bob2
[11:26] <cary> bob2, easier said than done. i guess there is a website that explains where the yaboot config is?
[11:26] <bob2> sure
[11:26] <concept10> bob2, channel
[11:26] <bob2> cary: doubt it
[11:26] <newuser> I want to configure my entire desktop in the image
[11:26] <vHintswen> o.o
[11:26] <bob2> cary: /etc/yaboot.conf
[11:26] <newuser> I see fit.
[11:27] <vHintswen> i'm just gonna re-install from the same cd then
[11:27] <newuser> Can I do this with Python..?
[11:27] <barbas> could someone help me please?
[11:27] <bob2> concept10: heh, irc has massively increased my typing speed
[11:27] <newuser> I am reading, it seems interesting and facinating.
[11:27] <pfp> cary: hopefully i'll have a chance to check that later, now i _really_ have to attend real-life stuff... ->
[11:27] <newuser> That's my only question.
[11:27] <cary> hah
[11:27] <bob2> newuser: you need to actually define what you want to do before anyone can help you
[11:27] <cary> thanks again pfp
[11:27] <hondje> newuser: you talking about wallpapers?
[11:27] <thoreauputic> vHintswen: assuming the CD is OK - have you checked its md5sum?
[11:27] <bob2> zerokills: http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther
[11:27] <bob2> zerokills: get that
[11:27] <newuser> The entire screen out the kernel
[11:28] <cary> bob2, i just gedit'ed yaboot.conf and it says its read online
[11:28] <cary> only*
[11:28] <hondje> newuser: I can't remember that cartoon well enough to know wtf you're talking about :)
[11:28] <newuser> With a different script.
[11:28] <hondje> newuser: the kernel is the part that does the interacting with the hardware, like drivers and stuff.
[11:28] <newuser> No that is only one example.
[11:28] <bob2> cary: sudo gedit /etc/yaboot.conf
[11:28] <thoreauputic> cary: you need "sudo gedit" or "gksudo gedit"
[11:28] <bob2> cary: from a terminal
[11:28] <newuser> I know.
[11:29] <zerokills> bob2: do i just extract the files to any location?
[11:29] <hondje> newuser: okay, so what do you mean 'the entire screen out of the kernel'?
[11:29] <FallenHitokiri> does somebody know how i can sync evolution with egroupware?
[11:29] <cary> bob2, what is gksudo?
[11:29] <bob2> zerokills: into your homedir would be a good place
[11:29] <thoreauputic> cary: just graphical password dialog
[11:29] <peppo> is there a way to list build dependencies in Ubuntu/Debian?
[11:29] <cary> ah
[11:29] <bob2> cary: a gtk version of sudo, I guess
[11:29] <newuser> Ok, like the screen saver
[11:29] <zerokills> k
[11:30] <bob2> peppo: yes, I told you how: apt-cache showsrc ardour
[11:30] <newuser> Can I use that in my desktop. with a good video card
[11:30] <newuser> like a radeon
[11:30] <hondje> newuser: yes
[11:30] <peppo> bob2, oops, my eyes must've failed me. sorry! didn't see the highlight. thanks!
[11:30] <newuser> :) Thanks.
[11:30] <hondje> newuser: oh, you mean as your background!
[11:30] <newuser> I'll look into that.
[11:30] <hondje> newuser: with stuff over it
[11:30] <cary> bob2, yeah..gtk means nothing to me. one day it will! but now..its like me talking to my mom and fstops and aperatures and, well, anything computer
[11:30] <newuser> I love psy music
[11:30] <newuser> I want to play crazy wicked
[11:30] <newuser> Color images
[11:30] <newuser> Psy stuff.
[11:30] <bob2> peppo: that's only for packaged software, tho, of course
[11:30] <cdc> i am unable to use totem to play movies i dont get sound at all
[11:31] <ussss> what is the best FTP client in Ubuntu? look-alike WS-FTP in windows ...
[11:31] <cdc> but i am able to play mp3s
[11:31] <newuser> Thank you.
[11:31] <newuser> Bye.
[11:31] <cdc> could some one help me ?
[11:31] <thoreauputic> cdc:
[11:31] <Eighth> bob2: need guru-level help w/ a confused apt-get
[11:31] <bob2> cary: ah, gtk = gimp toolkit = the stuff that draws buttons and scrollbars and etc
[11:31] <zever> ussss, you can use gftp
[11:31] <ussss> okie
[11:31] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[11:31] <bob2> Eighth: just ask your question to the channl
[11:31] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:31] <cary> cdc: for reference i really want to, but i know almost nothign
[11:31] <cdc> thoreauputic, ya tell me
[11:31] <bob2> ussss: nautilus is a pretty decent one
[11:31] <thoreauputic> cdc: see URL above
[11:31] <cary> bob2, ahha! now gtk means something. that was fast
[11:31] <bob2> hehe
[11:32] <cdc> thoreauputic, i ve done whats been specified in that site
[11:32] <ussss> whats the best .wma player in Ubuntu ?
[11:32] <HrdwrBoB> doctor_who_2005.1x04.aliens_of_london.ws_pdtv_xvid-fov.avi
[11:32] <Eighth> when i run apt-get, i get a message regarding unresolved dependencies for libkrb53.
[11:32] <FallenHitokiri> join #gnome
[11:32] <HrdwrBoB> er wrong windows
[11:32] <ussss> i cant play my .wma files in Ubuntu
[11:32] <FallenHitokiri> sorry
[11:32] <bob2> Eighth: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list 4to #flood
[11:32] <Eighth> i will pastebin, one moment
[11:32] <hondje> FallenHitokiri: I just checked their docs, doesn't say bud :)
[11:32] <newuser> obtain the package
[11:32] <HrdwrBoB> *window
[11:32] <bob2> HrdwrBoB: hah
[11:32] <thoreauputic> cdc: I suggest you install totem-xine, and w32codecs
[11:32] <bob2> HrdwrBoB: bad wolf will be revealed in 12 hours ;p
[11:33] <newuser> what do you mean?
[11:33] <FallenHitokiri> hondje: yeah... but someone mentioned that it should be possible...
[11:33] <HrdwrBoB> bob2: I have it here :)
[11:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh and if anyones interested i have gotten ubuntu to run on a mac 5400/180
[11:33] <bob2> HrdwrBoB: the episode airing tonight in the uk?
[11:33] <HrdwrBoB> bob2: episode 12 bad wolf
[11:33] <HrdwrBoB> ?
[11:33] <hondje> FallenHitokiri: quick googling says yes, but I never tried it
[11:34] <Eighth> bob2: done
[11:34] <bob2> HrdwrBoB: ah, yeah, that still didn't reveal who/what it is...the season finale is on tonight
[11:34] <HrdwrBoB> ahhh ok
[11:34] <bob2> oh, not to spoil it, sorry :)
[11:34] <FallenHitokiri> hondje: the problem is that i don't get a connection... i think i've got the wrong url but i don't know which one i should try
[11:34] <bob2> Eighth: and the full error from apt?
[11:34] <Eighth> bob2: pasted
[11:34] <HrdwrBoB> (I haven't watched it yet, I just have all of them so far .. only watched 1-3 :)
[11:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi church_of_foamy
[11:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> HI ^_^
[11:34] <hondje> FallenHitokiri: we don't use that at work, and I'm dumb w/ groupware stuff...
[11:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[11:35] <hondje> best I've managed is to set up hula for home use
[11:35] <bob2> Eighth: that looks very much like you got a package from debian
[11:35] <FallenHitokiri> hondje: hehe ;) if i cannot solve this problem i just switch over to kubuntu... kontakt is able to sync ;)
[11:36] <rob^> anyone used avidemux before?
[11:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[11:36] <Eighth> bob2: i did in a fit of confusion
[11:36] <bob2> Eighth: you're kinda screwed
[11:36] <hondje> FallenHitokiri: if you didn't know, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop does that magically for you :)
[11:36] <Eighth> bloody hell
[11:37] <Eighth> there's nothing i can do?
[11:37] <bob2> Eighth: try removing libkrb53
[11:37] <bob2> Eighth: and then reinstalling it with apt (who will get it from the ubuntu mirror)
[11:37] <ussss> whats the best .wma player in Ubuntu ?
[11:37] <FallenHitokiri> hondje: my workstation is running kde... but... all the years... i hate it... i really hate kde... it's hard for me to swtich over and use all the other apps starting with k instead of a g
[11:37] <FallenHitokiri> ussss: vlc
[11:38] <ussss> okies thanks :)
[11:38] <hondje> FallenHitokiri: hehe, I used to like KDE, when KDE2 came out I was so happy, but 3 has gotten messier and messier, now I can't use it
[11:38] <Eighth> tried that... when removing, it gives errors such as "evolution: Depends: libkrb53 (>= 1.3.2) but it is not going to be installed"
[11:38] <Eighth> when installing, it wants to remove libc6 and the 108 packages that depend on it
[11:38] <hondje> bob2: why isn't there a spot in the places menu for the cd burner
[11:39] <bob2> hondje: I don't know.  does it appear in any of the nautilus menus?
[11:39] <bob2> Eighth: how did you get into this mess?
[11:39] <ubuntu> ive got a folder full of debs from a friend is there an easy way to install the whole folder?
[11:39] <bob2> yes, but it's a bad idea
[11:39] <hondje> bob2: sure, in places in any nautilus window
[11:39] <Eighth> bob2: apache wasn't starting and was giving an error message about a broken libkrb53
[11:39] <hondje> er, places menu
[11:40] <bob2> hondje: but not in the top places menu?
[11:40] <Eighth> bob: so i tried to install libkrb53, but apt said it wanted a newer version of libc6
[11:40] <bob2> Eighth: so you went and installed 108 packages from Debian?
[11:40] <hondje> bob2: yes, not in the top one off the panel
[11:40] <bob2> hondje: ah
[11:40] <bob2> hondje: that sounds like a bug to me
[11:40] <Eighth> bob2: no, i attempted to upgrade libc6, which has 108 dependants.
[11:40] <hondje> oh, I'll go file that then
[11:40] <bob2> Eighth: to what?
[11:40] <hondje> I haven't filed a bug in days
[11:41] <ubuntu> so is it possible?
[11:41] <cary> bob2, hey its done!
[11:41] <loz> does anyone know why the python bindings for gtksourceview are not included in the ubuntu repositories (any) when mono, ruby etc are.
[11:41] <bob2> ubuntu: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[11:41] <bob2> but it's a bad idea
[11:41] <bob2> loz: are they in Debian?
[11:42] <loz> bob2: not sure.
[11:42] <Eighth> bob2: 2.3.2.ds1-21ubuntu13 instead of 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13
[11:42] <Eighth> bob2: but it didn't want to upgrade libc6, so i stupidly grabbed the .deb from debian
[11:42] <Eighth> and now i'm kicking myself
[11:42] <bob2> yes
[11:42] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: you will probably get dependency problems , unless your cllection of debs is complete
[11:43] <bob2> loz: that would presumably be the reason why
[11:43] <loz> bob2: no it's not in debian stable.
[11:43] <bob2> Eighth: you only installed libc6, with dpkg?
[11:43] <loz> seems strange that it's not included tho.
[11:43] <bob2> Eighth: where did you get the libkrb53 that wanted a higher version?
[11:43] <ubuntu> tryd that command and got this dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[11:43] <Eighth> apt-get
[11:43] <cary> bob2, now that i have compiled i cant seem to find the .deb file. is that indeed what i am looking for for trying to install the kernel?
[11:43] <bob2> cary: ../
[11:44] <thoreauputic> Ubuntico: close sysnaptic
[11:44] <thoreauputic> *synaptic
[11:44] <ubuntu> ah yes
[11:44] <cary> bob2 one level up i see no .deb file
[11:45] <bob2> cary: then it didn't finish successfully
[11:45] <hondje> bob2: think that's a gnome-panel bug, or a nautilus bug?
[11:45] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: I hope these .debs are ubuntu debs ...
[11:45] <bob2> or it wasn't run correctly
[11:45] <bob2> hondje: I'm not sure
[11:45] <hondje> I'll file it as panel, since it's missing from the menu
[11:45] <ubuntu> thoreauputic: lol
[11:45] <hondje> let the devs move it around
[11:45] <bob2> hondje: I'd think paanel
[11:45] <bob2> yeah
[11:45] <ubuntu> thoreauputic: well its going
[11:45] <cary> here is the error it gave
[11:45] <cary> need root privileges
[11:45] <cary> make: *** [kernel-image-deb]  Error 1
[11:45] <cary> cary@lnx:~/kernel/linux-source-2.6.11$ pfp
[11:45] <cary> bash: pfp: command not found
[11:45] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: if not, you will have problems..
[11:46] <bob2> cary: run it as make-kpkg ... -rfakeroot
[11:46] <bob2> cary: where ... = whatever options you want to give it
[11:46] <cary> bob2, i know nothing about options
[11:46] <cary> bob2, this is for another day i think. its almost 5 am. sleep time.
[11:46] <bob2> cary: er, ok
[11:46] <cary> bob2, THANK YOU
[11:46] <ubuntu> thoreauptic: well it seemd to work
[11:46] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: lucky you :)
[11:47] <cary> i think im having a small heart attack. goodnight
[11:47] <bob2> cary: it'll have to build from scratch again, unfortunately
[11:47] <cary> bob2, yeah, i figured. alas. oh well. part of learning
[11:48] <Chetic> how do I compile a source after installing the .deb file containing the source?
[11:49] <bob2> Chetic: it'll have instructions in /usr/share/doc/packagename/README.Debian
[11:49] <Eighth> bob2: any other ideas?
[11:49] <ussss> zever, thanks a lot for telling me about gFTP. thats what I am looking for... :)
[11:50] <zever> usss, no prob
[11:50] <hondje> Why is gftp in universe?
[11:50] <ussss> :)
[11:50] <bob2> Eighth: I still don't understand what you did
[11:50] <bob2> Eighth: is libc6 and libkrb53 the only packages you got from outside ubuntu?
[11:50] <bob2> hondje: unsupported
[11:51] <roby> hi guys can you help me?
[11:51] <roby> i have a big problem in ubuntu
[11:51] <Eighth> bob2: yes
[11:51] <roby> the sound doesn't work
[11:51] <hondje> bob2: ah
[11:51] <bob2> Eighth: then reinstall them from ubuntu
[11:52] <roby> the inboard sound is C-Media cmi9761
[11:52] <bob2> Eighth: apt-cache policy libc6, then apt-get install libc6=1.2.3 (the version number you got from the policy output
[11:52] <roby> it is perfectly detected but no sound
[11:52] <roby> and the strange thing
[11:52] <hondje> thoreauputic: your nick makes me cynical :)
[11:53] <roby> is that in a minidistro live-cd like damnsmalllinux it works perfectly!
[11:53] <thoreauputic> hondje: heh - well I stick with it because it's how I'm known now
[11:53] <roby> any ideas?
[11:53] <Eighth> bob2: results are pasted @ http://rafb.net/paste/results/OjMhk527.html
[11:53] <rob^> anyone know where I can get a ubuntu .deb package for avidemux?
[11:53] <hondje> thoreauputic: heh, I'm stuck with hondje too
[11:54] <thoreauputic> hondje: think Civil Disobedience rather than Walden pond... ;)
[11:54] <zever> rob^ sudo apt-get install avidemux
[11:54] <hondje> thoreauputic: Yeah, I got it, oddly enough :)
[11:54] <bob2> Eighth: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends libkrb53
[11:54] <bob2> Eighth: then try again
[11:54] <rob^> zenrox, what repository?
[11:55] <hondje> rob^: It's not in any
[11:55] <rob^> zever I mean
[11:55] <rob^> hondje, so it seems..
[11:55] <Eighth> bob2: i could hug you, but i won't ;)  thank you
[11:55] <Eighth> that did the trick
[11:55] <hondje> rob^: Let me do a quick check, maybe it's easy to build one
[11:55] <bob2> Eighth: np
[11:55] <zerokills> how do i copy a file from one location to another in terminal?
[11:55] <Eighth> you're an asset to this community
[11:56] <bob2> zerokills: cp source dest
[11:56] <rob^> hondje, just did, requires libxml2 package which is installed but the make file cant find it
[11:56] <zerokills> bob2 thx
[11:56] <rob^> hondje, I used subversion
[11:56] <hondje> rob^: is there a libxml-dev
[11:56] <hondje> rob^: oh, I've seen that
[11:56] <rob^> hondje, I'll see how that goes..
[11:56] <hondje> rob^: how's it better than kino or dvd::rip
[11:57] <rob^> hondje, dunno, I just want to convert avis to mpgs
[11:58] <rob^> I'll check out kino
[11:59] <rZr> hi
[11:59] <zever> rob^ its in the repositories of ftp.nerim.net
[12:00] <rob^> zenrox, thanx
[12:00] <ussss> VLC player plays my audio files, but I heard nothing...
[12:00] <ussss> :(
[12:01] <ussss> even my volume control is almost up and also my speaker
[12:01] <hondje> ussss: dbl click the volume thingie, are those all up too?
[12:01] <ussss> where ?
[12:01] <wdh> hi ppls.. does anyone know of a good tool that counts the amount of data-transfer over my internetconnection  during a month?
[12:01] <ussss> in VLC ?
[12:01] <hondje> ussss: on gnome-panel
[12:02] <zerokills> bob2: how do i create a folder in terminal?
[12:02] <hondje> rob^: kino is for dvcams and stuff, not what you want
[12:02] <zerokills> err dir
[12:02] <thoreauputic> wdh: gkrellm can do that for you
[12:02] <ussss> hondje, what menu ?
[12:02] <rob^> zever, what nerim.net repository?
[12:03] <thoreauputic> zerokills: mkdir
[12:03] <hondje> ussss: the little volume control thing on the panel, should be next to the clock
[12:03] <zerokills> thoreauputic, thx
[12:03] <thoreauputic> zerokills: I suggest you read http://tuxfiles.org
[12:03] <ussss> hondje, almost in Maximum level
[12:03] <hondje> ussss: pcm too?
[12:03] <ussss> pcm ? where ?
[12:03] <thoreauputic> zerokills: good stuff there about the command line for beginners
[12:04] <wdh> thoreauputic, but gkrellm is some graphical thingy.. i just want a daemon which i just adds all trafficcounts up for each month.. and then allows me to readout the total..
[12:04] <hondje> ussss: dbl click that volume thing
[12:04] <ussss> but when I play my audio CDs, i can play it withour problems
[12:04] <zerokills> thoreauputic, sweet thanks, ill check it out
[12:05] <ussss> hondje, PCM is also almost in Maximum level
[12:05] <sparkling> hi all
[12:05] <hondje> ussss: then you got me :) Turn off vlc, in a terminal run 'killall esd' and try again, maybe
[12:05] <sparkling> does anyone use tools to monitoring cpu temperature, hard drives temperature and fan speed?
[12:05] <ussss> okie
[12:05] <zever> rob^ deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
[12:06] <zever> rob^ deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
[12:06] <zever> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main
[12:06] <zever> one of these
[12:06] <hondje> oh no, marillat :(
[12:06] <rob^> zever, the stable/unstable are not listed on the page
[12:06] <loz> i founf gtksourceview-py.  it's not a separate package, but part of gnome-python-extras.  Is it possible for someone to add that as a virtual package with gnome-python-extras as a dependancy?
[12:06] <hondje> it should be required to learn pinning :)
[12:06] <rob^> hondje, not hard
[12:07] <ussss> hondje, :) thanks a lot!!!
[12:07] <ussss> :)
[12:07] <ussss> it plays now....
[12:07] <ussss> hehehehe
[12:07] <hondje> ussss: glad to help :)
[12:07] <ussss> what ESD mean ?
[12:07] <ussss> why I will kill him first ?
[12:07] <hondje> ussss: esd is the sound daemon for ubuntu (over simple, but hey)
[12:08] <ussss> sorry for that, Im just a Linux newbie
[12:08] <thoreauputic> sparkling: apt-cache search lmsensors
[12:08] <djs> !esd
[12:08] <ubotu> hmm... esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.
[12:08] <hondje> lm-sensors is the package
[12:08] <Fabian> good morning
[12:08] <ussss> thanks once again :)
[12:08] <loz> usss you need not kill it.  if you install esound-clients you can turn it off temporarily using esdctl off, then on with esdctl on
[12:09] <thoreauputic> hondje: oops - missed the "-"
[12:09] <Fabian> pfp, are you here?
[12:10] <thoreauputic> sparkling: as hondje says, lm-sensors
[12:10] <ussss> loz, :D
[12:10] <ussss> loz, id killed it already as what hondje told me... now my VLC runs smoothly
[12:13] <ussss> wow! even .wmv and .wma can play it using VLC
[12:14] <lsuactiafner> ussss : if you got a 64bit system you need a static mplayer binary to play wmv
[12:14] <ussss> i tried one of the sex scandals in .wmv format and it works... :)
[12:16] <sparkling> all done thanx guys
[12:16] <ussss> bye
[12:16] <ussss> :)
[12:17] <gorthaug> hi i've a problem with amsn... the icons of the try ico are white
[12:18] <thoreauputic> gorthaug: the icon may be missing from your theme - does it show with a different theme?
[12:18] <tjs> gday
[12:19] <tjs> does ubuntu have a special config or place to add route rules or config routing?
[12:19] <r0d> what program can i use for backing up dvd movies?
[12:19] <bob2> tjs: /etc/network/interfaces
[12:19] <tjs> oh
[12:20] <gorthaug> thoreauputic: i doesn't show with other them...
[12:20] <Dackel> How can I a package-choice with ubuntu-install?
[12:20] <Dackel> +use
[12:20] <jason_> any body know why files listed in .hidden still show in the gnome file picker?
[12:21] <Dackel> I don't habe a big hard-disk,
[12:21] <thoreauputic> gorthaug: OK - just a guess: sometimes tha is the problem - can you right click it and change properties? (I don't use amsn...)
[12:21] <Dackel> 2 GB
[12:21] <gorthaug> yes the icon works but it's white
[12:21] <thoreauputic> jason_: right click in the file list and choose to hide then/reveal them
[12:22] <thoreauputic> gorthaug: *shrug* don't know - file a bug perhaps ?
[12:22] <radix> bob2: is the idea to just add scripts that call 'route' commands, or is there a syntax specifically for doing advanced-ish routing stuff?
[12:22] <bob2> radix: add ip-up hooks
[12:23] <jason_> thoreauputic: I have hidden on but the files i have in .hidden are still visible, files starting with a . are hidden
[12:23] <radix> bob2: right, ok.
[12:23] <Dackel> thanks fo the 'nice' answer
[12:23] <thoreauputic> jason_: ah I see - I don't know then
[12:24] <jason_> :(
[12:24] <hondje> oh, that reminds me!
[12:24] <hondje> How do you make hidden files in windows?
[12:25] <thoreauputic> another impatient customer leaves...
[12:25] <gorthaug> thoreauputic: it's the same package that i've been installed in others PC with ubuntu hoary
[12:25] <jason_> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129170 says it was fixed :(
[12:26] <cdc> is it possible to run shareazza in Linux?
[12:26] <ibo> are there ubuntu guys here? id just like to say that samba should be included in an ubuntu default install.
[12:27] <hondje> ibo: samba server?
[12:27] <hondje> or just support to access shares?
[12:28] <thoreauputic> ibo: it's on the disc, ready to be installed by those who need it
[12:28] <thoreauputic> ibo: servers are not installed by default: openssh-server is the same
[12:29] <ibo> well.. for power users its a piece of cake. for users targetted by ubuntu, it isnt.
[12:29] <thoreauputic> ibo: users targetted by ubuntu usually wouldn't set up a samba server
[12:30] <bob2> ibo: that's very unlikely to happen, sorry
[12:30] <amr> i just installe apache2, then libapache2-python, how do i enable it so python works with apache?
[12:30] <amr> i've looked on the ubuntu site, no help
[12:30] <hondje> I even filed a bug, but no one looked at it
[12:30] <ussss> what is the good source code/text editor in Ubuntu...
[12:30] <ibo> why not? anyway forgive my ignorant question, but isnt samba that enables the network sharing?
[12:30] <ibo> i mean folder sharing
[12:31] <ussss> will also identify the no. lines
[12:31] <hondje> ibo: that or NFS
[12:31] <hondje> for the shared-folders thing
[12:31] <cdc> isnt it possible to download the kernel-source using apt-get in ubuntu?
[12:31] <hondje> But do you really want a bunch of newbies who don't know what SMB is using default samba installs on the internet?
[12:31] <cdc> i want 2.6-X source ?
[12:31] <thoreauputic> cdc: apt-cache search linux-source
[12:31] <hondje> cdc: yes
[12:32] <amr> can anyone help?
[12:32] <mindspin> amr httpd.conf ?
[12:32] <amr> mindspin, what about it
[12:32] <ibo> it doesnt have to be enabled. important thing is.. the only thing they have to do is flick a switch to use it.
[12:33] <ibo> like the winxp firewall.
[12:33] <amr> i've tried copying in the stuff from the modpython site, no work
[12:33] <hondje> are there any non-Free downloads on sourceforge?
[12:33] <mindspin> I guess you have to enable python or mod pythoon in your httpd.conf
[12:33] <amr> mindspin, its in mods-enabled
[12:33] <cdc> does ubuntu come with a web server by default or i have to install it?
[12:33] <amr> cdc, its easy to install
[12:34] <ibo> a household woul usually have multiple PCs right? so with ubuntu, they have to "RTFM" to enable folder sharing?
[12:34] <bob2> ibo: to use, all you have to do is install the package in synaptic
[12:34] <bob2> hondje: yes
[12:34] <hondje> bob2: hrm, okay.  Might have to email these cats to find their license then :(
[12:34] <mindspin> amr did you have a look in the apache logs?
[12:35] <bob2> hondje: e.g. cedega
[12:35] <hondje> bob2: didn't know they used sourceforge...is that for their CVS stuff?
[12:35] <amr> [Sat Jun 18 11:32:12 2005]  [notice]  mod_python: Creating 20 session mutexes based on 20 max processes and 0 max threads.
[12:35] <amr> [Sat Jun 18 11:32:12 2005]  [notice]  Apache/2.0.53 (Ubuntu) mod_python/3.1.3 Python/2.4.1 PHP/4.3.10-10ubuntu4 configured -- resuming normal operations
[12:36] <mindspin> try #apache
[12:36] <amr> thanks :)
[12:37] <McScruff> hello
[12:37] <bob2> hondje: yes
[12:38] <ibo> *sigh*. ok now that ive installed samba.. how do i let others access my shared folder? its asking for user/password. im afraid the normal user have to fire up a terminal and edit some obscure config file.
[12:38] <McScruff> does anyone know how to install klibido
[12:38] <synd> can someone test out my nicecast? http://139.55.46.63:8000/playlist.pls
[12:38] <McScruff> the deb wont install
[12:39] <synd> it should run in rhythmbox
[12:39] <Bramme> i installed the dutch language pack for Thunderbird, it is in the extension window, but the language stays english, how do i change that ?
[12:40] <hondje> Bramme: easiest thing to do is log out, pick dutch as your language in GDM, and log back in...but that assumes you want it ALL in dutch
[12:41] <Bramme> i want only mozilla in dutch
[12:41] <bob2> ibo: share it anonymously then
[12:41] <char1iecha1k> hello can i have some help please installing linux-686-smp please
[12:41] <bob2> char1iecha1k: you need to explain your problem first
[12:41] <hondje> Bramme: hrm, okay
[12:41] <mindspin> I had firefox and thunderbird enabled german language pack and it gave me strange efffects.. so I changed back to english
[12:41] <char1iecha1k> when i type sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp it says package not found
[12:41] <hondje> Bramme: Let me find out what I did...I set up firefox to run korean while everything else is english
[12:42] <thoreauputic> synd: works here
[12:42] <Chetic> mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:42] <Chetic> Is there any way to make it not care about GL? It's not like it's really needed
[12:42] <bob2> char1iecha1k: well, it does exist; paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[12:42] <thoreauputic> synd: but I used beep ;)
[12:42] <synd> thoreauputic: oo good deal : )
[12:42] <bob2> Chetic: is that a binary mplayer from a package?
[12:43] <Chetic> bob2, from an Ubuntu package, yeah
[12:43] <bob2> Chetic: so...why don't you have libGL anymore?
[12:43] <Chetic> bob2, fglrx messed it up and I can't get it fixed
[12:43] <Chetic> I still have the actual file though, in the right place
[12:43] <hondje> Bramme: does the languages thing in 'preferences' only affect the webpages themselves?
[12:43] <bob2> Chetic: you tried to install it from outside ubuntu?
[12:44] <char1iecha1k> bob2, i havent changed anything in there, do i neeed to before it works, if not i will paste it in flood
[12:44] <bob2> char1iecha1k: paste it
[12:44] <Chetic> bob2, sorry I don't follow
[12:44] <Bramme> hondje, it's about thunderbird
[12:44] <char1iecha1k> bob2, whats the full channel name
[12:44] <iluciv> testing a file.sh file to see if it works possible??
[12:44] <hondje> Bramme: Oh, I saw mozilla and got stupid, I don't have that one
[12:44] <bob2> Chetic: anyway, don't install binary crap from outside ubuntu, and reinstall the xlibmesa-gl package now
[12:44] <Bramme> hondje, btw, are you korean ?
[12:45] <bob2> char1iecha1k: #flood
[12:45] <hondje> Bramme: Nope, and I'm not dutch either :)
[12:45] <char1iecha1k> bob2,  sorry im being thick
[12:45] <hondje> But the missus is korean, and her mom cannot read english
[12:45] <Chetic> bob2, I used Synaptic to install it.. the problem is not really in mplayer, I just want to bypass it
[12:45] <Bramme> hondje, what are you then ?
[12:45] <hondje> American
[12:45] <bob2> Chetic: yes, I know.  the fix is to install the xlibmesa-gl package.
[12:45] <Bramme> hondje, strange, because 'hondje' is a dutch word
[12:45] <Chetic> bob2, I have it already.. how do I reinstall it then?
[12:46] <hondje> Bramme: yep, puppy :)
[12:46] <Bramme> :)
[12:46] <bob2> Chetic: sudo apt-get --reinstall install xlibmesa-gl
[12:46] <hondje> As in 'hondje is een gekke snoodaard'
[12:46] <bob2> char1iecha1k: remove the # from the 3rd line and run 'sudo apt-get update', then you'll be able to install it
[12:46] <hondje> I have a lot of dutch friends, my nick mutated over time
[12:46] <Bramme> ow
[12:46] <Bramme> nice
[12:46] <char1iecha1k> bob2, cheers
[12:46] <Bramme> :)
[12:47] <hondje> Bramme: Seems like a nice place, never met a grumpy dutchie :)
[12:47] <hondje> In fact, this coming Feb. I should be staying in Hilversum for a week
[12:47] <Chetic> bob2, well that gave me this: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa-gl_6.8.2-10_amd64.deb (--unpack): | trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2', which is also in package fglrx64-6-8-0 | dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[12:47] <Bramme> well, i'm not dutch, i'm belgian
[12:47] <Bramme> but that's pretty close :p
[12:47] <bob2> Chetic: oh man
[12:48] <iluciv> ok how many ways can you execute a "file.sh" file
[12:48] <bob2> Chetic: who told you to install fglrx64-6-8-0?
[12:48] <bob2> iluciv: 93
[12:48] <hondje> plus xs4all hosts my website, nice w/ us hosts being stupid
[12:48] <Chetic> bob2, I want hardware acceleration, ATi did
[12:48] <hondje> Bramme: ah, my second week is going to be in Antwerpen :)
[12:48] <iluciv> what!!
[12:48] <bob2> Chetic: if you want hardware acceleration, read wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:48] <bob2> Chetic: you don't just go install broken packages from ati
[12:48] <Bramme> hondje, Antwerpen rulez :d
[12:49] <hondje> So my friend says, and it's time I visit him instead of making them fly here :)
[12:49] <Chetic> bob2, I've followed several guides that say it should work fine
[12:49] <bob2> Chetic: sudo dpkg -P fglrx64-6-8-0 ; sudo apt-get --reinstall install xlibmesa-gl
[12:49] <bob2> Chetic: those guides are wrong
[12:49] <Chetic> bob2, the people happily using it too? :/
[12:49] <bob2> Chetic: yes
[12:49] <iluciv> bob2: anyway to test a "file.sh" to see if it works or where it doesn't
[12:49] <bob2> Chetic: those packages are incompatible with ubuntu
[12:49] <Chetic> bob2, the latest version of ATi's drivers are the only ones that work with my graphics card
[12:49] <hondje> Bramme: I just installed all that, and I'm getting the impression tat they only put everything in dutch if your session is set to dutch, too
[12:49] <bob2> ouch
[12:49] <Chetic> Yep, shitty situation
[12:50] <hondje> and I can't get firefox to show the menus in korean right now either, I must have borked the work-around when I nuked firefox 20 times
[12:50] <thoreauputic> iluciv:  sh file.sh or ./file.sh if you made it executable (chmod +x)
[12:50] <char1iecha1k> bob2, i am going to paste what i got from doin g that into #flood
[12:51] <bob2> char1iecha1k: show me your /etc/pt/sources.list now
[12:51] <hondje> too bad firefox guys aren't as nice as these ubuntu cats, like bob2 the guru
[12:52] <Bramme> hondje, how do i set the main language to dutch then ? (don't have gdm)
[12:52] <iluciv> thoreauputic:well it's someone elses script to update the kernel and it did work now when I run it it only give a new command prompt underneith with no run
[12:52] <hondje> Bramme: oh, that's a good question w/out gdm
[12:52] <Bramme> lol
[12:52] <hondje> Bramme: what are you doing, just startx?
[12:52] <Bramme> euh, trying to get gdm working, but that failed since i had to deinstall alsa
[12:52] <Howitzer> Wooooooohooooooooo
[12:52] <Bramme> ( to compile it myself, long story :p )
[12:53] <hondje> Bramme: apt-get install gdm complained?
[12:53] <Bramme> yes
[12:53] <hondje> oh, long story then :)
[12:53] <Howitzer> i finally found Visual Boy Advance for Linux \ o /
[12:53] <Bramme> ALSA is a depencie
[12:53] <hondje> I screwed up gdm when I gave Entrace a spin :)
[12:53] <thoreauputic> iluciv: do you understand the script? running other people's scripts without reading them and knowing what they do is... erm...not a good idea?
[12:54] <Bramme> well, i'm going to eat
[12:54] <Bramme> cu guys
[12:55] <iluciv> thoreauputic: well I looked through it and I think I know what it is supposed to do I don't really know because I'd be able to make it work if I did; does that make sense? There doesn't seem to be anything wrong in the writing of it.
[12:55] <Howitzer> btw
[12:55] <Howitzer> where do i configure KDM in Kubuntu?
[12:56] <ompaul> thoreauputic, can you take a pm?
[12:56] <HrdwrBoB> Howitzer: #kubuntu
[12:56] <Howitzer> -_-
[12:56] <thoreauputic> ompaul: sure
[12:56] <HrdwrBoB> it would be in the control center somewhere though
[12:57] <ralf_> nas
[12:57] <ralf_> como borro paquetes de programas con dpkg o con apt-get remove ?
[12:58] <hondje> ralf_: #ubuntu-es
[12:58] <char1iecha1k> bob2, looks like it is doing what is supposed to do now, shouldnt take too long on 2meg line
[12:58] <hondje> ralf_: este canal hablamos ingles
[12:58] <ralf_> hondje a perdon
[12:58] <ralf_> okis asias
[12:58] <hondje> :)
[12:59] <bob2> char1iecha1k: cool
[12:59] <CM> how do i change fstab to mount a fat32 floppy ?
[01:00] <char1iecha1k> bob2, no errosr, shold i reboot now?
[01:00] <bob2> char1iecha1k: yes
[01:00] <MrEEE> [CM]  ... /dev/fd0         /mnt/floppy      vfat        noauto,user,rw   0   0
[01:00] <mindspin> Howitzer what do you want to do ?
[01:00] <Howitzer> well
[01:01] <Howitzer> just want to configure it a bit
[01:01] <Howitzer> auto-login after 30secs for example
[01:01] <CM> MrEEE, thanks
[01:01] <mindspin> the appearace? or what ever?
[01:01] <hondje> CM: remember to umount the floppy before ejecting it, I've screwed that up so many times, and it's a bummer to lose data :(
[01:01] <Howitzer> also yes
[01:01] <CM> ;) lol
[01:01] <mindspin> sudo kcontrol
[01:01] <Howitzer> is it configurable like GDM?
[01:01] <mindspin> and then have a look
[01:01] <Howitzer> oh
[01:01] <Howitzer> damn
[01:02] <Howitzer> should've known that >_
[01:02] <mindspin> no prob
[01:02] <Howitzer> aaah
[01:02] <Howitzer> Sys Administration 'login manager' :D
[01:02] <CM> W00T just got the new 5.04 cd's :P
[01:03] <Howitzer> wtf
[01:03] <Howitzer> i can't go into root mode >_<
[01:03] <CM> Howitzer, su then type password
[01:03] <Howitzer> ah
[01:04] <Howitzer> no i was talking about kcontrol :d
[01:04] <CM> ahhhhh :|
[01:04] <CM> login as root ?
[01:04] <Howitzer> ubuntu doesn't support root :D
[01:05] <thoreauputic> CM: su doesn't work on Ubuntu - we use sudo
[01:05] <Howitzer> and i don't trust myself in rootmode :/
[01:05] <hondje> this gconf-editor is neat
[01:05] <CM> :O SU works for me
[01:05] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: sudo -s to get a root shell
[01:05] <HrdwrBoB> CM: not by default it doesn't
[01:05] <CM> well it does on my one, i am using warty at the moment
[01:05] <Howitzer> eek
[01:05] <thoreauputic> CM: you've changed something from default
[01:05] <HrdwrBoB> CM: then it's not default
[01:06] <HrdwrBoB> on a plain warty/hoary install you cannot use su or login as root
[01:06] <CM> su has always worked :\
[01:06] <orjan> If i got a "Intel Pentrum 4"-processor should I download XMMS-"Intel x86" ?
[01:06] <CM> and i have not changed any thing
[01:06] <HrdwrBoB> CM: how did you set the root password
[01:06] <thoreauputic> CM: did you use "expert" install ?
[01:06] <HrdwrBoB> orjan: correct
[01:06] <orjan> thx
[01:06] <CM> i can't remember now
[01:06] <Howitzer> lol
[01:06] <HrdwrBoB> CM: setting the root password with sudo allows you to use su
[01:06] <hondje> hrm, what's a 'musicbrainz_server'?
[01:06] <CM> and i've fogot how to set the root password
[01:07] <HrdwrBoB> but on a normal default install, you cannot use su
[01:07] <CM> passwd ?
[01:07] <Howitzer> wtf
[01:07] <CM> let me check
[01:07] <Howitzer> they have a 'blowfish' at the login manager as an icon
[01:07] <Howitzer> perverts >_<
[01:08] <char1iecha1k> bob2, thanks, its all working! i now get 2 cpu in the sys mon
[01:08] <CM> yea i use passwd to set the root password
[01:08] <CM> well sudo passwd
[01:08] <bob2> cool
[01:09] <bob2> there's no need to enable the root account, of course
[01:10] <MrEEE> "no need" .. so true.. for readonly users...
[01:10] <McScruff> dpkg-deb: control directory has bad permissions 2755 (must be >=0755 and <=0775)  - how do  ifix this
[01:10] <hondje> MrEEE: I've only found one time I NEEDED root
[01:10] <bob2> MrEEE: "readonly users"?
[01:10] <hondje> which was odd, I figured pretending your uid was 0 was enough
[01:10] <bob2> I've been using ubuntu for over a year now, and I've never needed a root account
[01:11] <bob2> MrEEE: when doing what?
[01:11] <hondje> bob2: ethereal
[01:11] <CM> i use root alot but only in the terminal thing alt+ctrl+F2
[01:11] <hondje> Some guy dropped the science on the why to me, has to do with kernel access
[01:11] <xirtam> i get W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[01:11] <bob2> hondje: ah, yeah
[01:11] <xirtam> on apt-get update ... any ideas?
[01:11] <MrEEE> cant access true hardware accel in "loser" (user) mode.. otherwise.. i agree.. root is forbidden :)
[01:11] <bob2> tho, I use ethereal as a normal user
[01:12] <asdfasdf> Does anybody know of any good open source python projects that a newcomer to python could analyse to understand how python works?
[01:12] <bob2> xirtam: gpg --recv-key 40976EAF437D05B5 ; gpg --export 40976EAF437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[01:12] <hondje> bob2: I need it for testing out something, and could only use it right as root
[01:12] <Howitzer> wth
[01:12] <CM> at the moment i am using root in gnome because i am copying and editing system files
[01:12] <bob2> MrEEE: add them to the video group
[01:12] <Howitzer> i'm compiling this GBA Emulator
[01:12] <bob2> CM: er, that's a bad idea to begin with
[01:12] <CM> makes it more easy to do :P
[01:12] <MrEEE> asdfasdf... check out some cool scripts for blender3d.org 's awesome little .. well go see
[01:13] <Howitzer> and it keeps nagging about lzib or libpng mising
[01:13] <CM> i am making a backup of system files for horey
[01:13] <Howitzer> pfoe
[01:13] <kvidell> oh my...
[01:13] <thoreauputic> CM: great way to break your system in two clicks...
[01:13] <kvidell> 10.4.1 is nice..
[01:13] <Howitzer> Wha
[01:13] <CM> lol
[01:13] <Howitzer> Ubuntu 10.4.1? Oo
[01:14] <kvidell> Tiger :-P
[01:14] <asdfasdf> MrEEE... ok, but any simple projects? I've used blender before and I still dont fully understand 3D progs...
[01:14] <Howitzer> we're only at 5.10 :/
[01:14] <kvidell> OSx
[01:14] <Howitzer> oooh
[01:14] <kvidell> sorry. hehe
[01:14] <Howitzer> okay :D
[01:14] <Howitzer> hmm
[01:14] <kvidell> I only use Ubuntu on my PC laptops
[01:14] <kvidell> my desktops are mac
[01:14] <bob2> Howitzer: install zlib0g-dev and libpng-dev
[01:14] <CM> oooooo blender :P
[01:14] <CM> i got blender :P
[01:14] <Howitzer> if ubuntu 5.10 comes out, i'm going to ask my dad if i can order some cd's
[01:14] <bob2> "if"?
[01:14] <bob2> when!
[01:14] <kvidell> aren't they free?
[01:15] <xirtam> what is wrong with fluxbox in ubuntu ... ?
[01:15] <bob2> kvidell: of course!
[01:15] <hondje> There should be an option to pay for ubuntu CDs
[01:15] <bob2> xirtam: it works for thousands of people
[01:15] <hondje> I'd get them if I could buy them
[01:15] <thoreauputic> xirtam: it freezes, right?
[01:15] <bob2> hondje: why?
[01:15] <cthulfuego> hondje: You can pay me anytime.
[01:15] <Howitzer> ehh
[01:15] <xirtam> thoreauputic: yes!
[01:15] <cthulfuego> hondje: ... and I'll send you an ubuntu CD.
[01:15] <xirtam> you know why?
[01:15] <thoreauputic> xirtam: I have compiled my own fluxbox deb
[01:15] <Howitzer> something weird is going on
[01:15] <CM> i got lot's of ubuntu cd's
[01:15] <hondje> bob2: Because I'd feel better about the resource usage then
[01:16] <thoreauputic> xirtam: I can tell you about it if you wish
[01:16] <xirtam> thoreauputic: what is the problem?
[01:16] <hondje> cthulfuego: hehe :)  Are you a registered F/OSS project ;-)
[01:16] <bob2> hondje: you can donate to ubuntu if you feel the urge
[01:16] <HappyFool> hondje: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/donations/document_view
[01:16] <thoreauputic> xirtam: hang on a tick
[01:16] <xirtam> thoreauputic: let me download your deb-file ...
[01:16] <Howitzer> when i do apt-get install, it automaticly installs, not asking for Y/N
[01:16] <hondje> oh neat, donate...I thought they were trying to go w/ paid support for the bills
[01:16] <cthulfuego> hondje: Registered? Do we have to _register_ now to be f/oss?
[01:16] <asdfasdf> also, i hvae a laptop with windows xp 2nd ed. I want to install Ubuntu as 2nd os. Do i just defrag, reboot into cd and install? Does ubunty resize partitions properly?
[01:16] <hondje> HappyFool: was it you who showed me that magical graphing lib?
[01:16] <HappyFool> Howitzer: i think it only asks if there are extra dependencies to install
[01:16] <HappyFool> hondje: matplotlib?
[01:16] <Howitzer> ooh
[01:16] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone tried to compile WINE on AMD64 ubuntu ?
[01:16] <hondje> cthulfuego: with the official F/OSS man
[01:16] <bob2> hondje: donations don't go to canonical
[01:16] <Howitzer> configure: error: *** Couldn't find SDL library (version >= 1.2.2).
[01:17] <Howitzer> wth
[01:17] <hondje> HappyFool: ah yes, thank you sir!!
[01:17] <bob2> hondje: they only go towards bounties
[01:17] <hondje> HappyFool: I lost that bookmark :(
[01:17] <bob2> Howitzer: so, install it
[01:17] <Howitzer> i thought i had everything needed >_<
[01:17] <bob2> Howitzer: libsdl1.2-dev
[01:17] <hondje> bob2: oh, that's a noble causes
[01:17] <thoreauputic> xirtam: you need to compile it with --disable-xmb   as a ./configure option
[01:17] <Howitzer> damn
[01:17] <HappyFool> hondje: http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/ ?
[01:17] <CM> woohoo silent hill 3 is so fun :P
[01:17] <Howitzer> Ubuntians are the most noblest people alive!
[01:18] <hondje> HappyFool: Yep, just clicked that from google...I tried it out the other day, it was awesome
[01:18] <Howitzer> Silent Hill 3?(game or that lame movie with julia roberts?)
[01:18] <thoreauputic> xirtam: I can dcc mine if you like: but you will need a ~/.xsession file for it
[01:18] <CM> the game :P
[01:18] <Fanskapet> that wineinstall tool just outputs checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:18] <cthulfuego> hondje: I *AM* the official f/soss man!
[01:18] <bob2> Fanskapet: install build-essential
[01:18] <hondje> cthulfuego: RMS? Did you shave?! :o
[01:18] <Howitzer> f/soss?
[01:19] <cthulfuego> hondje: See, I have business cards and everything
[01:19] <Fanskapet> bob2, been there.. done that :)
[01:19] <thoreauputic> xirtam: do you want it?
[01:19] <bob2> Fanskapet: talk to them then, their configure script is broken
[01:19] <Howitzer> is it hard to make a distro? :/
[01:19] <bob2> Fanskapet: assuming you deleted config.cache
[01:19] <cthulfuego> Cthulfuego - F/OSS MAN - Devourer of Worlds
[01:19] <bob2> Howitzer: a lot of pointless work
[01:19] <Howitzer> why?
[01:19] <hondje> Howitzer: Free/Open source
[01:19] <Chetic> moagg, everybody play moagg
[01:19] <cthulfuego> hondje: RMS isn't a _person_, it's a franchise.
[01:19] <bob2> Howitzer: because there are already five bajillion distributions out there
[01:20] <Howitzer> maybe o
[01:20] <hondje> RMS is a prophet, brother cthulfuego
[01:20] <CM> yes and ubuntu is the best :D
[01:20] <hondje> He saw the future
[01:20] <Fanskapet> bob2,  hmm where is the config.cache located?
[01:20] <cthulfuego> And the future was HAIRY!
[01:20] <Howitzer> i just hope they don't make a distro made for acting like windows
[01:20] <bob2> Fanskapet: in the source tree
[01:20] <thoreauputic> xirtam: ping ?
[01:20] <cthulfuego> !ping
[01:20] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, cthulfuego.
[01:20] <Howitzer> HOARY :w
[01:20] <bob2> Howitzer: it's called lindows
[01:20] <Howitzer> Ew
[01:20] <Fanskapet> bob2,  yeah that im aware of but i can't find it in the tree :)
[01:20] <CM> ewwwwwwwwwwwww
[01:21] <cthulfuego> Ubuntu 5.04 - Hairy Hedgehod
[01:21] <bob2> Fanskapet: guess that's not the problem then
[01:21] <hondje> All the other 'big cats' are kinda hokey....ESR wants it to always be 1989, DJB is a putz, Linus is a human and ergo not-perfect, Larry Wall is too busy being funny and making a scary language...
[01:21] <vniki> hi @ll
[01:21] <Howitzer> they actually ABUSED linux into making a Winblows alike distro? *cries*
[01:21] <bob2> Fanskapet: their configure script is screwed if it bails and you have build-essential installed
[01:21] <hondje> de Raadt is de Rant :D
[01:21] <bob2> Fanskapet: unless you have silly cflags or something set
[01:21] <cthulfuego> hondje: Once you get past the seizures and drinking problem, I'm probably the sanest foss person.
[01:21] <Fanskapet> bob2,  /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc-lib/x86_64-linux/3.3.5/libgcc.a when searching for -lgcc
[01:21] <hondje> Howitzer: on the plus side, lindows spends money on a few projects
[01:21] <Fanskapet> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc
[01:22] <Fanskapet> that's what the logfile gives me
[01:22] <hondje> resierfs offhand
[01:22] <hondje> cthulfuego: I'd hope so, they're all nuts
[01:22] <Howitzer> Ubuntu does aswell(bounties?)
[01:22] <bob2> Fanskapet: and you haven't changed any of the symlinks or anything?
[01:22] <Howitzer> YES
[01:22] <Howitzer> finally
[01:22] <Howitzer> i compiled the GBA Emulator \ o /
[01:22] <Fanskapet> bob2, nah.. followed the guide on ubuntuforums downloading the sourcetree from their cvs
[01:22] <hondje> oh neat, nautilus desn't show backup files
[01:22] <CM> woohoo at last got that damn floppy open
[01:22] <bob2> yay forums
[01:22] <bob2> Fanskapet: er
[01:23] <hondje> Howitzer: what's a GBA emulator?
[01:23] <bob2> Fanskapet: compiling wine on amd64 is kinda pointless
[01:23] <Fanskapet> it is?
[01:23] <bob2> Fanskapet: unless you actually have amd64 windows programs
[01:23] <bob2> and I don't even think wine supports that
[01:23] <Fanskapet> aha so it's unable to run 32bit apps?
[01:23] <Howitzer> an emulator that you can play GameBoy Advance games on
[01:23] <Fanskapet> ah well then i'l just throw it away :)
[01:23] <Howitzer> btw, i this normal while compiling?
[01:23] <Howitzer> if g++ -DPACKAGE_NAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\"\" -DPACKAGE_STRING=\"\" -DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\"\" -DPACKAGE=\"VisualBoyAdvance\" -DVERSION=\"1.7.2\" -DHAVE_LIBZ=1 -DHAVE_LIBPNG=1 -DHAVE_LIBPTHREAD=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_STAT_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1
[01:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> aghh my eyes spam
[01:24] <bob2> Howitzer: yes
[01:24] <Howitzer> sorry for spam :(
[01:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[01:24] <bob2> twilight: please turn that off
[01:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^ it's ok
[01:24] <Howitzer> ehh
[01:24] <hondje> Howitzer: How do you plug the games in?
[01:24] <bob2> god g++ is slow
[01:24] <bob2> I want to cry
[01:24] <hondje> Howitzer: Or more likely, how do you dump the games to your hdd?
[01:24] <Howitzer> VisualBoyAdvance ./[ROMnaam] 
[01:24] <Howitzer> ehh
[01:24] <Howitzer> well
[01:24] <hondje> ah, say no more
[01:25] <hondje> others do it, etc
[01:25] <Howitzer> you can do it illegally(way easier)or legal way
[01:25] <hondje> what's the legal way?
[01:25] <Howitzer> legal way:
[01:25] <Howitzer> buy the cartridge, buy a flash drive
[01:25] <hondje> oh, the games are on flash cards?
[01:25] <bob2> note that the legal way is probably still illegal in the US
[01:25] <hondje> I thought they were on something else
[01:25] <Howitzer> load the content of the cartridge into your pc
[01:25] <Howitzer> but
[01:26] <hondje> bob2: probably...I'm more interested in the morally-okay-to-hondje, which excludes the DMCA when it meets my opinion of fair use
[01:26] <Howitzer> it doesn't work in linux since the programs for transferring it are windows only
[01:26] <Howitzer> and actually
[01:26] <hondje> oh, you can't just dump the contents?
[01:26] <Howitzer> it should be fully legal
[01:26] <hondje> then it is most certainly illegal, stupid dmca
[01:26] <bob2> hondje: hah, amen
[01:26] <Howitzer> because you bought the cartridge
[01:27] <hondje> If you have to decode something, Howitzer, the dmca makes it illegal...which doesn't mean wrong :)
[01:27] <Howitzer> and since you can do anything you would like to
[01:27] <Howitzer> it isn't decoding
[01:27] <Howitzer> the cartridge contains 1 file:
[01:27] <Howitzer> -game-.gba
[01:27] <hondje> hrm, I'll have to look into that, Howitzer .... my brother has a bunch of games that he doesn't use anymore
[01:27] <Howitzer> and you open it like you open a .jpg with an image viewer
[01:28] <hondje> bob2: is there a non-paypal way to donate?
[01:28] <Howitzer> Woohoo
[01:28] <Howitzer> it works
[01:28] <Howitzer> now to just get a .gba :(
[01:29] <hondje> I have a magical flash card reader that works in all distros w/ usb :)
[01:29] <Howitzer> Oo
[01:29] <bob2> hondje: someone's working on it, but I haven't heard anything about it in a while
[01:29] <hondje> bob2: okay, I'll just monitor that or something
[01:30] <inva|id> how do I flush my dns cache
[01:30] <hondje> especially if I talk the boss man into it, like I did w/ mozilla
[01:30] <lpih> Heh, i have 2 GFX cards in my comp, a GF4TI and voodoo1.
[01:30] <lpih> Install defaulted Voodoo1 as my xorg card ;)
[01:30] <hondje> lpih: hehehe
[01:30] <Howitzer> oh god no
[01:30] <Howitzer> OH GOD NO
[01:31] <hondje> ubuntu defaulted to my onboard instead of my nvidia card
[01:31] <hondje> maybe I should file a bug on that....
[01:31] <lpih> + my X is freezing becouse i have Nvidia display card and newer kernel than 2.6.7
[01:31] <Howitzer> that guy made his website 'optimized for IE' :'(
[01:31] <lpih> It's a known problem :S
[01:31] <lpih> had same when on gentoo :)
[01:31] <hondje> lpih: really? I've never had a problem, what drivers you using?
[01:31] <thoreauputic> xirtam: I'm assuming you don't want the fluxbox deb...
[01:31] <lpih> hondje: apt-get install nvidia-glx ;)
[01:31] <lpih> hondje: Me and my friend had EXACTLY the same problem, and same solution
[01:31] <CM> well i am ready to install ubuntu 5.04 so wish me luck people :P
[01:32] <hondje> lpih: ah, and X dies on you? Not using compositing voodoo?
[01:32] <lpih> hondje: I'm using the GF4 now.
[01:32] <hondje> lpih: interesting, what's the solution? Is it apg related?
[01:32] <lpih> It doesn't die, it just .. Somehow loses "focus"
[01:32] <lpih> you can move cursor, XMMS continues playing etc.
[01:32] <lpih> but you cant do anything, even change VM
[01:32] <lpih> And the solution was to change to older kernel :S
[01:32] <hondje> can't ctrl-alt-f1 to a tty either, lpih ?
[01:32] <lpih> Nope.
[01:33] <lpih> all i can do is reboot
[01:33] <hondje> Only newer-kernel + nvidia problem I had was with cedega about a year ago :-/
[01:33] <lpih> It depends on the card i think
[01:33] <lpih> hondje: People on the gentoo forums had same problem
[01:33] <hondje> lpih: that's wild....my friend had problems with nvidia and gentoo hardened, but not the kernel..it was pax I think
[01:33] <lpih> And the reason - unknown
[01:33] <lpih> Dunno if it's known by now
[01:34] <lpih> I'll make a new kernel now, lets see ->
[01:34] <macarthy_> hi all
[01:34] <lpih> Hi
[01:34] <inva|id> how to flush my dns cache?
[01:34] <hondje> lpih: ever mess w/ the agp settings in xorg.conf?
[01:34] <lpih> hondje: Not really?
[01:34] <macarthy_> how do I find out what package supplies X11/Xmu/StdSel.h
[01:34] <lpih> My only "special" option is the busid :P
[01:35] <hondje> lpih: a lot of crashes that have kernel tie-ins are fixed with that
[01:35] <hondje> I'm not too hip to the science there, since I use a pci card, though
[01:35] <lpih> :D
[01:35] <lpih> The more human solution might just be a 2.6.7 kernel :)
[01:35] <lpih> After all, it works.
[01:35] <hondje> yeah, but it's exploitable
[01:35] <lpih> :O?
[01:36] <thoreauputic> macarthy_: eter@prospero:~$ dpkg -S X11/Xmu/StdSel.h
[01:36] <thoreauputic> libxmu-dev: /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xmu/StdSel.h
[01:36] <lpih> well this is a desktop computer inside a NAT :)
[01:36] <hondje> yeah, there's one for all kernels < 2.6.8, I don't think it's remote but still ugly
[01:36] <macarthy_> thoreauputic, thanks
[01:36] <thoreauputic> macarthy_: dpkg -S is useful at times ;)
[01:36] <macarthy_> super
[01:37] <hondje> lpih: Option "NvAGP" "integer" is the option
[01:37] <thoreauputic> macarthy_: I think it might be  dep for xlibs-dev, actually - I didn't install that directly AFAIK
[01:38] <hondje> 0 kills agp, 1 uses nvidias internal agp, 2 uses agpgart, 3 uses agpgart if it's there, else nvidia's one
[01:38] <hondje> default is 3, try 1 after you unload the agpgart module
[01:38] <hondje> If not, then enjoy recompiling the kernel, sorry couldn't help, etc :)
[01:38] <lpih> hondje: sounds like rocket science
[01:38] <thoreauputic> macarthy_: yep - apt-cache show xlibs-dev shows it a s a dependency
[01:39] <hondje> lpih: nah, rocket science is all F = ma ;-)
[01:39] <lpih> .. or game of throw a dice
[01:39] <hondje> lpih: I hear it hypothesized that agpgart changed, and that's why odd stuff happens....just junk I picked up in #nvidia
[01:40] <nonexx> hello
[01:40] <hondje> especially since us PCI users never have the problem
[01:40] <lpih> Ok :)
[01:40] <djs> macarthy_: http://packages.ubuntu.com provides a search interface for which packages provide a given file
[01:40] <nonexx> any idea why "startx" fails, and "sudo startx" works ?
[01:40] <lpih> nonexx: What does it say?
[01:40] <lpih> sounds like chmod problem :)
[01:40] <nonexx> lpih - no EE in logfile ...
[01:40] <hondje> nonexx: just curious, why not use gdm?
[01:40] <nonexx> lpih - GDM/KDM fail also
[01:41] <HappyFool> nonexx: you're not using breezy by any chance?
[01:41] <nonexx> I can type my login, then I come back to gdm
[01:41] <nonexx> HappyFool - nope.
[01:41] <hondje> nonexx: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start fails?
[01:41] <nonexx> hondje - gdm starts. But I cant login
[01:41] <nonexx> only way to start my system is "sudo startx", then I have my gnome (as root...)
[01:42] <HappyFool> there's nothing in the gdm logs (/var/log/gdm/*) or ~/.xsession-errors ?
[01:42] <hondje> nonexx: or in auth.log?
[01:42] <Goshawk> i've a problem with java on firefox
[01:42] <hondje> that's usually pretty comprehensive
[01:42] <hondje> Goshawk: drop it on me, brother
[01:42] <Goshawk> i installed the 2 packagges: sun-j2r... and sun-j2sdk
[01:42] <lpk> Heh, i love weird problems ;)
[01:43] <nonexx> hondje : Jun 18 13:36:34 localhost kdm: :0[6845] : (pam_unix) session opened for user jul by (uid=0)
[01:43] <nonexx> Jun 18 13:36:34 localhost kdm: :0[6845] : (pam_unix) session closed for user jul
[01:43] <nonexx> (kdm, yes. but same thing with gdm)
[01:43] <Goshawk> but firefox does not use them
[01:43] <hondje> nonexx: hrm, fascinating
[01:44] <HappyFool> hey Heimdall -- any luck with your modem?
[01:44] <hondje> Goshawk: did you make symlinks to the plugins dir?
[01:44] <Goshawk> no... do i need to do them?
[01:44] <hondje> nonexx: well, beats me man
[01:44] <hondje> Goshawk: yeah, firefox only looks in its plugins dir for plugins
[01:44] <nonexx> hondje - Ill try adding a new virgin user.
[01:44] <hondje> Goshawk: did you install the java pkgs from sun?
[01:44] <Goshawk> (i did not reat to make a link in the ubuntu wiki)
[01:44] <Goshawk> hondje, sure
[01:45] <nonexx> hondje - brb
[01:45] <Heimdall> HappyFool : well no... :(
[01:45] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hm
[01:45] <hondje> Goshawk: ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[01:45] <HappyFool> Heimdall: how far did you get?
[01:45] <hondje> Goshawk: or better, ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[01:45] <Goshawk> on the ubuntu wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java there is nothing about a creation of a sym link in the method 1 (sun packages)
[01:46] <hondje> Goshawk: okay, let me take a looksie
[01:46] <Heimdall> HappyFool : well I didn't go so far... but I installed all we spoke about
[01:46] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I begin to have serious doubts
[01:47] <HappyFool> Heimdall: why's that?
[01:47] <Goshawk> hondje, if i'm not going wrong, in the wiki there is written only to download and install packages
[01:47] <runenes> I want to connect 2 computers together using their wireless card, can that be done in linux without an accses point?
[01:47] <nonexx> hondje - same thing with a new created user.
[01:47] <hondje> nonexx: I'm totally out of thoughts, man
[01:47] <Heimdall> HappyFool : well... I think I have installed all, but it still dont detect the modem
[01:47] <hondje> nonexx: that's really odd to me
[01:47] <hondje> nonexx: mess with anything X related lately?
[01:48] <nonexx> hondje - nope. And it works fine as root
[01:48] <nonexx> I have quite enough of ubuntu, to be honest ...
[01:48] <Goshawk> hondje, s$ ls
[01:48] <Goshawk> libflash-mozplugin.so  libjavaplugin.so
[01:48] <hondje> nonexx: well damn, that's just bizarre....I'd tell you to ask in #ubuntu...but hrm
[01:48] <Goshawk> there is the libjavaplugin.so
[01:48] <hondje> Goshawk: ls -l libjavaplugin.so
[01:48] <hondje> btw, if you type just libjava<tab> where <tab> is hitting it, it'll spell it out for you
[01:49] <Goshawk> ls -l libjavaplugin.so
[01:49] <Goshawk> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 39 2005-06-17 22:24 libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so
[01:49] <hondje> nonexx: yeah, I can dig it, that's an insane bug
[01:49] <hondje> Goshawk: file /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so
[01:50] <Heimdall> HappyFool :I installed the source and dameon package
[01:50] <hondje> nonexx: Maybe #gnome would know, since gdm is their thing
[01:50] <Goshawk>  ls -l /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so
[01:50] <Goshawk> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 58 2005-06-17 22:24 /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so -> /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[01:50] <Heimdall> HappyFool : and it seems to be successful
[01:50] <Goshawk> going to see if that exixst
[01:50] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok. and the build? (make-kpkg) ?
[01:50] <hondje> Goshawk: run that file command
[01:51] <hondje> file shows you what kind of file something is...*nix uses magic numbers, not extensions like 'other' operating systems
[01:51] <Heimdall> HappyFool : hum... this I don't know very well what it does
[01:51] <Heimdall> is it for the kernel-package ?
[01:51] <Mez> I hate it when arts crashes
[01:51] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i'm actually just trying to install the created deb and it's refusing. odd
[01:51] <hondje> Goshawk: it should say 'libjavaplugin_oji.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped'
[01:51] <HappyFool> Heimdall: well, there's a build step
[01:52] <HappyFool> Heimdall: it's not enough to just install the source
[01:52] <Goshawk> hondje, wait i found the problem
[01:52] <hondje> HappyFool: using make-kpkg?
[01:52] <HappyFool> hondje: yeah. Heimdall has a smartlink modem
[01:52] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I admit that I'm quite lost with all of these things to do
[01:52] <hondje> HappyFool: I was wondering, do the debs it makes run update-grub?
[01:52] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yeah, i guess it is a bit of an information overload
[01:52] <hondje> Goshawk: what's that?
[01:53] <verveeld> has anybody installed ubuntu as a dual-boot 2nd OS on a machine with winXP
[01:53] <HappyFool> hondje: i don't know. this is for building a module only, for a modem, so i don't think that is needed in this case
[01:53] <HappyFool> verveeld: yip, i have
[01:53] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I typed lspci and it told me SiS AC'97 modem controller
[01:53] <thoreauputic> verveeld: lots of people
[01:53] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ah
[01:53] <Goshawk> hondje, Goshawk  ls -l /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so
[01:53] <Goshawk> Goshawk lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 58 2005-06-17 22:24 /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so -> /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so do you remember this? ok... but this file does not exixst there, it's in another directory!, it's in /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7
[01:53] <hondje> HappyFool: oh, okay
[01:53] <HappyFool> Heimdall: heh. so all this might be for nothing ? ;)
[01:54] <hondje> Goshawk: hehehe
[01:54] <Goshawk> hondje, by default the jre directory is miss, this should be fixed...
[01:54] <Goshawk> :D
[01:54] <HappyFool> Heimdall: never fear! there is a neat little script available from here: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/ that should tell you what driver you need
[01:54] <Heimdall> HappyFool : hummm I'm not sure, because... I search on the web with this reference, and I found something about smartlink modem too
[01:54] <Goshawk> i've to change the link fron /etc/alternatives
[01:54] <Goshawk> how can i report this bu?
[01:54] <Goshawk> bug?
[01:54] <hondje> Goshawk: There's two way to do java, and the technically easy make-jpkg one I always forget, so I do it by hand (easy once you've done it a couple times)
[01:55] <hondje> Goshawk: yeah, https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[01:55] <Heimdall> HappyFool : do u know windows ?
[01:55] <HappyFool> Heimdall: err, a little
[01:55] <hondje> Goshawk: or just update the wiki, that's why it's a wiki ;-)
[01:55] <Goshawk> hondje, yes... but i use ubuntu for 15 pcs at work, and i wanna an easy apt-get command to make it running
[01:55] <Goshawk> :D
[01:55] <hondje> Goshawk: oh, in that case make HappyFool tell you the magic way
[01:55] <Heimdall> HappyFool : well; it tells me thah mymodem is a smartlink
[01:55] <lpk> Hmm does anyone remember where to disable antialias from XFce4?
[01:55] <Goshawk> hondje, it's not a missed information, it seems a bug
[01:56] <HappyFool> hondje: hrm? ;)
[01:56] <hondje> oh, Goshawk, then bugs away ;-)  Or tell them in #ubuntu-motu
[01:56] <hondje> HappyFool: the magic make-jpkg thing
[01:56] <HappyFool> Heimdall: then it probably is a smart link
[01:56] <Goshawk> ok.. ubuntu-motu
[01:56] <HappyFool> hondje: err
[01:56] <Goshawk> thanks :D
[01:56] <xxenon> hondje - nonexx here. For some reason, /tmp was +w for root only. Thats what caused my problem
[01:56] <HappyFool> hondje: i think that's Seveas speciality ;)
[01:56] <Goshawk> time to have lunch.. see you
[01:56] <hondje> xxenon: wow, how odd, I'd have never guessed
[01:56] <hondje> xxenon: how'd you figure it out?
[01:56] <Heimdall> HappyFool : so, I did dpkg -i for the source and daemon .deb
[01:56] <hondje> !java
[01:56] <ubotu> somebody said java was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[01:57] <xxenon> hondje - "man startx" complained about not being able to create a temporary file ...
[01:57] <Heimdall> but I think I did the things not in the right order
[01:57] <hondje> Goshawk: Hit up Seveas, his way makes a nice .deb you can share to all your boxes
[01:57] <hondje> xxenon: ah, good thinking
[01:58] <hondje> xxenon: you know what sucks, is that now you mention it, I once set up /tmp accidently mounted ro, and had all sorts of X problems
[01:58] <xxenon> hondje - I would have expected something more detailed in the logfile....
[01:58] <hondje> xxenon: yeah, like (EE) CANNOT WRITE TO /TMP!!
[01:58] <xxenon> exactly.
[01:58] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok, you also need to install kernel-package and module-assistant (both downloaded debs)
[01:58] <xxenon> there was no EE at all.
[01:59] <thoreauputic> lpk: I don't know about anti-alias in xfce, but you can set it in /etc/fonts/local.conf IIRC
[01:59] <hondje> Xorg errors are half the time useless
[01:59] <Heimdall> HappyFool : actually, now I can make tests, it is easier since I'm not on my laptop anymore
[01:59] <xxenon> well, thx for your time, hondje.
[01:59] <HappyFool> xxenon: and nothing in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[01:59] <hondje> xxenon: Glad you got it working...any idea why no write to /tmp?
[01:59] <mindspin> <7join #kubuntu
[01:59] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I think it is done
[01:59] <xxenon> HappyFool - I hadnt checked it.
[01:59] <HappyFool> xxenon: just a guess. i think stderr gets piped there
[01:59] <Heimdall> I'm sure at least for modules-assistant because I used it
[02:00] <lpk> hondje: thanks for the agp tip, seems somewhat stable(r)
[02:00] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok
[02:00] <ivolooser> hi together
[02:00] <HappyFool> Heimdall: so you can work there now without leaving irc?
[02:00] <hondje> lpk: Hope it stays that way, and they're pretty smart in #nvidia if it borks on you some more
[02:00] <lpk> :}
[02:00] <Heimdall> I made what is written in README.Debian
[02:00] <Heimdall> HappyFool : yes, I have my laptop right next to me
[02:00] <Heimdall> I'm booting it
[02:00] <HappyFool> Heimdall: excellent
[02:00] <hondje> wow, I made cat cry
[02:00] <HappyFool> Heimdall: let me know when you get to a command prompt
[02:00] <Heimdall> (I've been able to modify grub !!!) :-D
[02:00] <hondje> cat said "...Too much output, ignoring rest..."
[02:01] <ivolooser> is there someone witch can help me to update breezy ?
[02:01] <HappyFool> Heimdall: heh -- good stuff
[02:01] <ivolooser> everytime after an update i xserver doesnt work
[02:01] <mindspin> Kubuntu question:can anybody tell me why only time and timezone and not date is shown in taskbar? I've enabled show datein kcontrol
[02:01] <hondje> ivolooser: /topic, buddy....X is hosed in breezy for a bit
[02:01] <HappyFool> breezy is broken atm; if you're not a hacker, maybe you shouldn't be using it
[02:01] <Fanskapet> ahh. I becoming more and more for each day :)
[02:02] <kbrooks> heh
[02:02] <ivolooser> what i should use?
[02:02] <HappyFool> hoary
[02:02] <robotgeek> :)
[02:02] <kbrooks> ivolooser, hoary
[02:02] <ivolooser> ok thanks so far.
[02:02] <hondje> HappyFool: oh, if you're bored and want some fun, find an apple forum and tell them how you hope for Dell to sell boxes w/ OS X
[02:02] <robotgeek> it's breezy hour in here!
[02:02] <ivolooser> i try it... could i change just the sources?
[02:02] <kbrooks> hoary != breezy  and hoary > breezy
[02:02] <kbrooks> :)
[02:02] <hondje> ivolooser: downgrades w/ apt are near impossible
[02:03] <HappyFool> hondje: heh. i'll stick to emacs-vs-vi, thanks
[02:03] <kbrooks> hondje, its possible tho
[02:03] <ivolooser> ok - thanks, i hope see you later guys
[02:03] <hondje> HappyFool: Not even an occasional *BSD is dying? :-(
[02:03] <robotgeek> HappyFool: vi rocks!
[02:03] <Heimdall> HappyFool : modify the grub command wasn't difficult with a good graphic editor ;)
[02:03] <robotgeek> let me start if off!!
[02:03] <hondje> kbrooks: yeah, I only could do it once though :) pinning madness
[02:04] <raux> hi
[02:04] <raux> why I have this message
[02:04] <raux> An error occurred while loading the archive.
[02:04] <HappyFool> robotgeek: hold your position. a re-education team is en route
[02:04] <raux> raux Command exited abnormally.
[02:05] <verveeld> thoreauputic: ja i know about that stuff, thanks hey
[02:05] <HappyFool> Heimdall: gedit?
[02:05] <Heimdall> yes
[02:05] <thoreauputic> verveeld: OK
[02:05] <HappyFool> good stuff
[02:05] <Heimdall> I tried emacs... but I haven't got it
[02:05] <robotgeek> HappyFool: when i am editing text, i want to edit text...no browse the web! I have firefox for that!!
[02:05] <Heimdall> I think it is on the cd, I hope
[02:05] <HappyFool> it's on the cd, i think. you can use synaptic to install it
[02:05] <Heimdall> hehe
[02:06] <Heimdall> synaptic ?
[02:06] <thoreauputic> robotgeek: ed! ed is the editor! man ed! *grin*
[02:06] <kbrooks> yes
[02:06] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yeah, package install thingy. System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[02:06] <robotgeek> thoreauputic: :)
[02:06] <skywater> hello everyone. does ubuntu supports intel wireless 2200bg network card?
[02:06] <Heimdall> ah I didn't know that, I have a lot to learn ;)
[02:06] <Heimdall> well now I'm ready
[02:06] <raux> I want to extract an .rar file but I have this error: An error occurred while loading the archive. Command exited abnormally.
[02:06] <hondje> skywater: intel cards are well supported in linux, but YMMV
[02:07] <HappyFool> Heimdall: synaptic is a little better when you have an internet connection though ;)
[02:07] <Heimdall> term openned
[02:07] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok
[02:07] <raux> what's wrong ? :S
[02:07] <HappyFool> Heimdall: cd /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5
[02:07] <verveeld> ok, let me rephrase ques - anybody installed ubuntu on a hard drive with only one partition with winXP on it?
[02:08] <verveeld> in a dual boot
[02:08] <Heimdall> HappyFool :ok
[02:08] <robotgeek> verveeld: u need to repartition!
[02:08] <hondje> thoreauputic: You're wise and cunning in the ways of the Ubuntu...
[02:08] <HappyFool> Heimdall: now sudo make-kpkg modules_image
[02:08] <robotgeek> raux: maybe the rar is compressed with latest and greatest winrar?
[02:08] <mindspin> verveeld take a live cd and use gparted or partition magic on xp
[02:08] <verveeld> robotgeek: i know, but has anybody actually used the ubuntu resize partition tool in the installer
[02:08] <robotgeek> HappyFool: the debian way, i see!
[02:09] <hondje> thoreauputic: where would I go to find a guy to help me track down my firefox problems, someone who can devote time and lots of know-how
[02:09] <HappyFool> robotgeek: well, the way described in /usr/share/doc/sl-modem-source/README.Debian, anyway
[02:09] <verveeld> mindspin: what about the ubuntu installer, doesn't it also repartition
[02:09] <obrien> Hello.. for some reason.. i cannot get sound out of xmms when i choose ALSA or ESD..all sounds work in Gnome.. could someone help?
[02:09] <Heimdall> ok
[02:09] <mindspin> never tried it
[02:09] <Heimdall> it does something,wait
[02:09] <robotgeek> verveeld: i am on a mac, gparted doesn't work ...
[02:09] <thoreauputic> hondje: he who thinks himself wise has not attained the Ubuntu Way *g*
[02:09] <HappyFool> Heimdall: might take a little while. you should see lots of exciting commands and stuff
[02:09] <Heimdall> lol yeah I see
[02:09] <raux> robotgeek,  if it's possible, then I can't extract it ?
[02:09] <Heimdall> a LOT of things
[02:10] <HappyFool> Heimdall: that last line should be: 'Module /usr/src/modules/sl-modem processed fine'
[02:10] <verveeld> i'm using intel x86
[02:10] <thoreauputic> hondje: I haven't been following your firefox woes...
[02:10] <robotgeek> verveeld: i havent tried it, but it *should* work!
[02:10] <mindspin> verveeld make a backup first
[02:10] <Heimdall> yeah I was just typing it to you :)
[02:10] <Heimdall> so ?
[02:11] <verveeld> robotgeek: *should* work! lol! BETTER work!
[02:11] <robotgeek> raux: i am not really sure...
[02:11] <raux> ok
[02:11] <hondje> thoreauputic: amazingly slow to render pages, frequent segfaults on stupid stuff, immune to apt-get remove --purge and reinstalls
[02:11] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok, now 'cd ..' and 'ls *.deb'
[02:11] <hondje> I've been filing heavily detailed bugs, but no love :-/
[02:11] <robotgeek> verveeld: atleast then, we would know!!
[02:11] <Heimdall> yeah I think I had already done this
[02:11] <thoreauputic> hondje: hmm - you didn't use the version from *shudder* backports, did you?
[02:11] <verveeld> robotbeek: lol
[02:11] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you should see a file 'sl-modem-modules-2.6.10.....deb' where ... probably depends on your precise kernel version
[02:12] <Heimdall> coz I already have the deb file
[02:12] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok
[02:12] <Heimdall> in fact
[02:12] <Heimdall> I have two debs file there
[02:12] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i tried to install this file earlier and it broke, but i think we can force it
[02:12] <HappyFool> oh?
[02:12] <hondje> thoreauputic: hell no ;) I've known jdong since before he got 'buntufied, I know better ;)
[02:12] <Heimdall> one ..custom...
[02:12] <HappyFool> and the other?
[02:12] <thoreauputic> hondje: heh
[02:12] <HappyFool> oh...
[02:12] <Heimdall> let me tell you wait
[02:12] <HappyFool> Heimdall: stand-by
[02:12] <Heimdall> this is long
[02:13] <thoreauputic> hondje: have you tried disabling IPV-6 in about:config ?
[02:13] <HappyFool> you can cut-and-paste with the mouse
[02:13] <Heimdall> they were probably there before
[02:13] <hondje> thoreauputic: oh yeah, I did all the standard stuff
[02:13] <HappyFool> Heimdall: can you hang on one second?
[02:13] <hondje> Ng was kind enough to dig around with me, and was stunned at the badness I'm getting
[02:13] <thoreauputic> hondje: ah... well I know not, then, Grasshopper ;-)
[02:13] <hondje> Sometimes firefox will freeze and run at 100% cpu for two or three minutes :(
[02:13] <hondje> thoreauputic: I shall find Mr. Firefox and fix this
[02:14] <obrien> Could someone help me with sound? Sound works fine in GNOME sound events, logon etc...but i cannot get sound from xmms, beep-media-player..i tried to set XMMS to use alsa and esd, and still no luck
[02:14] <Heimdall> sure
[02:14] <verveeld> thanks all, i'll be off either destroying winxp or giving it a new friend... c u later when I'm trying to setup ISDN properly!
[02:14] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i think maybe one needs to be in 'linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386' not 'linux-headers-2.6.10-5'
[02:14] <robotgeek> hondje: firefox was doing that to me on OS X, but it's been all good on linux
[02:14] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hmm
[02:14] <mindspin> hondje You can beleave it or not, but i fixed that on a thinkpad by disabling acpi
[02:14] <Heimdall> sl-modem-modules-2-6.10_2.9.9a-lubuntu4+10.00.Custom_i386.deb
[02:14] <verveeld> probably not today tho! cheers everyone and thanks again
[02:14] <hondje> mindspin: hrm, this is on a desktop
[02:14] <HappyFool> no, it's still a .Custom_i386.deb file
[02:14] <HappyFool> Heimdall: what's the other one called?
[02:14] <mindspin> 't was just an idea
[02:15] <hondje> mindspin: I love ideas, thanks :)
[02:15] <hondje> WOW, I have a lot of modules
[02:15] <Heimdall> sl-modem-modules-2-6.10-5-386_2.9.9a-lubuntu4+2.6.10-34-i386.deb
[02:15] <robotgeek> hondje: :)
[02:16] <hondje> robotgeek: I should whip out wc, looks like 50
[02:16] <Goshawk> i've a file. how can i see in wich package this file is in?
[02:16] <robotgeek> modules shootout, anyone? :)
[02:16] <hondje> pcspkr                  3496  0 <---okay, why's that not compiled in? :o
[02:16] <Goshawk> which
[02:16] <robotgeek> 44
[02:16] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hmm, i think that one might be the better one to install
[02:17] <Heimdall> oki
[02:17] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i don't know why i keep getting a 'Custm.deb', but nevermind
[02:17] <hondje> oh hey, not compiled in on sarge, either
[02:17] <robotgeek> Goshawk: what exactly are u looking for?
[02:17] <HappyFool> Heimdall: 'sudo dpkg -i <that-file>'
[02:17] <Heimdall> ok, you know I'v made a lot of things... I don't remember where this file come from
[02:17] <HappyFool> Heimdall: err
[02:18] <hondje> any way to make ls show absolute paths?
[02:18] <HappyFool> Heimdall: well, let's try it anyway
[02:18] <Goshawk> robotgeek, i've a file, and i know that it's inside a package that i've installed, how can i locate the package?
[02:18] <Goshawk> which option of dpkg?
[02:18] <Heimdall> I'm doning it
[02:18] <robotgeek> Goshawk: 'dpkg -l' to list
[02:19] <HappyFool> errors? success?
[02:19] <Heimdall> HappyFool : creating /dev/modem symlink, pointing to /dev/ttySL0
[02:19] <HappyFool> Heimdall: excellent
[02:19] <robotgeek> Goshawk: now, i am not sure how to check for installed...but that shud give u a list of all packages on your system
[02:19] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I ahd this already many times
[02:19] <Heimdall> had*
[02:19] <HappyFool> Heimdall: oh
[02:19] <Heimdall> yes
[02:19] <HappyFool> Heimdall: so not so excellent
[02:19] <Goshawk> robotgeek, it's a list of installed packages, not the fiels inside them
[02:19] <Heimdall> but never mind, continue
[02:20] <hondje> anyway to make ls show absolute paths?
[02:20] <robotgeek> Goshawk: you might want to do a "dpkg -l | less"
[02:20] <Heimdall> the daemon ?
[02:20] <mindspin> lstree ?
[02:20] <HappyFool> Heimdall: does lsmod|grep sl-modem show anything
[02:20] <hondje> mindspin: hrm
[02:20] <Goshawk> robotgeek, yes i think the same
[02:20] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yeah, we can check that in a moment
[02:20] <mindspin> nope
[02:20] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you've installed it, right? sl-modem-daemon?
[02:20] <hondje> mindspin: what pkg is that in?
[02:20] <mindspin> haha
[02:21] <Heimdall> lsmod|grep sl-modem does nothing
[02:21] <mindspin> thought I had something similiar on woody ;-)
[02:21] <Goshawk> robotgeek, do you know more about  dpkg -S | --search filename-search-pattern ...
[02:21] <Goshawk>                   Search for a filename from installed packages.
[02:21] <Goshawk> ??
[02:21] <Goshawk> this should do te stuff
[02:21] <mindspin> on woody is pstree
[02:22] <mindspin> its even on ubuntu
[02:22] <robotgeek> Goshawk: nope, never played with it too much!
[02:22] <robotgeek> Goshawk: sorry!
[02:22] <mindspin> shows only processes...
[02:22] <Goshawk> robotgeek, ok i'll investigate
[02:22] <|Ivanch0|> hi someone have instaled a lan between ubuntu wxp?
[02:22] <Goshawk> :D
[02:22] <Heimdall> HappyFool : lsmod|grep sl-modem does nothing, what was it for ?
[02:22] <HappyFool> Heimdall: lsmod lists loaded kernel modules
[02:23] <Heimdall> oh .. :(
[02:23] <HappyFool> Heimdall: | is a 'pipe' , and grep is a text search utility
[02:23] <HappyFool> Heimdall: don't despair yet
[02:23] <rob^> Heimdall, you shouldn't run a command you dont understand...
[02:23] <Heimdall> :/
[02:23] <robotgeek> alrite ppls, later!
[02:23] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you don't remember what the command you gave to build the non-custom deb was, by any chance?
[02:23] <Heimdall> rob^ I know but I trust HappyFool
[02:23] <rob^> ok :)
[02:24] <mindspin> ls -R shows path recursively
[02:24] <Heimdall> HappyFool : you mean the custom one ?
[02:24] <mindspin> ls --help gives help
[02:24] <HappyFool> no, the non-custom one ;) the one you finally installed
[02:24] <Heimdall> I thought it was the make commande
[02:24] <Heimdall> lol
[02:25] <Heimdall> HappyFool : maybe we would spend more time to re-do all from the begining, now that I can type the command it shouldn't be too long ?
[02:25] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i think everything is ok
[02:25] <Heimdall> ah ok
[02:25] <HappyFool> Heimdall: we probably just need to start the daemon and load the module
[02:26] <Heimdall> yeah
[02:26] <Heimdall> so the daemon I've already tied to start it
[02:26] <Heimdall> in /etc/init.d
[02:26] <Heimdall> restart
[02:26] <kmikz> hey you guys.... can't fint ethereal in synaptic.... i know it should be there... what ever shall I do ?   :)))
[02:27] <hondje> kmikz: do you have 'universe' repositories set up?
[02:27] <kmikz> don't know
[02:28] <HappyFool> Heimdall: and what did it say?
[02:28] <Heimdall> HappyFool : to install the daemon I did dpkg -i sl-modem-daemon....deb
[02:28] <Heimdall> to the file you told me to dowload
[02:28] <hondje> kmikz: /msg me and I'll show you how to check it, and add it if needed
[02:29] <HappyFool> Heimdall: right, but when you did /etc/init.d/slmodemd (or whatever) what did it say?
[02:29] <bycv> hi all
[02:29] <jwark> i have a case scenario here... i couldn't save a file into a floppy disk in a not admin mode
[02:29] <Heimdall> I'm doing it right now to tell you
[02:30] <Heimdall> => /etc/init.d. sl-modem-daemon restart ok?
[02:30] <HappyFool> Heimdall: the command?
[02:30] <Heimdall> yes
[02:30] <HappyFool> Heimdall: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/sl-modem-daemon restart'
[02:30] <jwark> do i need to mount it in a not admin environment???
[02:31] <Heimdall> I saw on the howto page to type this
[02:31] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i'm not sure of the precise command name -- you can use tab completion
[02:31] <thoreauputic> jwark: use the "users" option in /etc/fstab
[02:31] <HappyFool> Heimdall: otherwise maybe 'sudo invoke-rc.d sl-modem-daemon restart'
[02:31] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i believe those two commands are equivalent
[02:32] <quidoff> hi I just downloaded the new kernel. Does anyone know a good tut for how to install it
[02:32] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: correct
[02:32] <HappyFool> thoreauputic: do you know make-kpkg at all?
[02:32] <Heimdall> HappyFool : look at this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto at the end of the page
[02:32] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: no, I've never needed to compile a kernel ;)
[02:32] <Heimdall> HappyFool : his driver seems rather finicky. Basically, if it works, a file called /dev/ttySL0 will exist. If it doesn't work, running sudo /etc/init.d/sl-modem-daemon restart may help, as might running modprobe slamr, but it seems somewhat random. A reboot may help too.
[02:33] <HappyFool> thoreauputic: ah ok. i can't tell why the module compile command is building a 'custom' module
[02:33] <hondje> thoreauputic: never got curious, or felt the urge to get some cred? :-D
[02:33] <tsk> hi, why don't i have a man page for gethostid()?
[02:33] <bob2> tsk: install manpages-dev
[02:33] <tsk> bob2: oh, excellent :)
[02:33] <nexuslab> hi
[02:33] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ah-ha
[02:34] <thoreauputic> hondje: one day when I'm feeling motivated I'll look into it I guess :)
[02:34] <Heimdall> HappyFool yes ?
[02:34] <HappyFool> Heimdall: is this how you got that .deb ? the one that wasn't custom?
[02:34] <hondje> thoreauputic: It's overrated
[02:34] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok
[02:34] <xoz> tsk: man gethostid without ()?
[02:34] <Heimdall> I don't know
[02:34] <hondje> thoreauputic: everyone goes on about performance, but I did some actual serious number smashing, and the difference was minimal :-/
[02:34] <HappyFool> Heimdall: standby, let me run this quick. I wonder how i did it before *puzzlement*
[02:35] <jwark> hello guys... any tips for a newbie on ubuntu???
[02:35] <Mez> jwark, http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:35] <thoreauputic> hondje: so the general wisdom has it: rather like the fact that a default slackwre install is usually fsster than gentoo ;-)
[02:35] <nexuslab> i installed kubuntu...without dhcp...so without net repositories...then after installation...when i try to do "sudo mycommand" i get this error: sudo: unable to lookup desktop via gethostbyname()
[02:35] <hondje> jwark: I have a good one....try to drink deeply of package management, especially if you're coming from windows
[02:35] <hondje> thoreauputic: I love that little factoid ;-)
[02:35] <nexuslab> Password : postdrop: unable to look up public /pickup:no such file or directory
[02:36] <Heimdall> HappyFool : sudo /etc/init.d/sl-modem-daemon restart tells :
[02:36] <Mez> hondje, how do you drink code?
[02:36] <jwark> thanks , Mez!
[02:36] <hondje> thoreauputic: It's a shoddy benchmark, but I left the box running for 3 days each time running the numbers, I figure that's intensive enough that you'd notice
[02:36] <hondje> Mez: With zen-fu
[02:36] <griff> hi all - I'm trying to start lm_sensors - and I'm getting the error "setting sensor limits..." any quick solutions?
[02:36] <jwark> hondje, what's a package management???
[02:36] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hrm. i think that might be for warty - the 'Depends' field is already updated
[02:36] <hondje> jwark: You know how in windows, you go to sites and download stuff to run?
[02:37] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i guessed the module name wrong earlier, btw
[02:37] <hondje> jwark: well, in Ubuntu you click 'system' on the panel, go to 'administration', and run 'synaptic' and it'll magically download and install things for you
[02:37] <HappyFool> Heimdall: try 'lsmod|grep slamr'
[02:37] <Heimdall> HappyFool : shutting down samrtlink modem driver normmallu, loading ALSA modem driver into kernel... done. Starting smartlnk modem driver for : hw:0. creating /dev/modem smylink, pointing to /dev/ttySL0.
[02:37] <hondje> jwark: then, your computer will automatically update itself when bug fixes come out
[02:37] <IRCmad_alfred> hi everyone! i need some advice for monitor res settings...
[02:38] <hondje> Totally one of the great perks of most linux distros, and not emphasised enough IMHO to newbies :(
[02:38] <HappyFool> Heimdall: and ls -l /dev/modem shows?
[02:38] <Heimdall> HappyFool : slamr 376004 0
[02:38] <HappyFool> Heimdall: good stuff
[02:38] <hondje> Mez: You were the one talking about the newbie rescue service, right?
[02:38] <rob^> where is the alsa configuration wiki?
[02:38] <Heimdall> ls -l /dev/modem :
[02:38] <thoreauputic> hondje: in fact, windows refugees have trouble understanding the concept, it seems
[02:38] <jwark> oh, now i see.... thanks hondje!
[02:39] <hondje> jwark: play with it, you'll grow addicted I promise :)
[02:39] <jwark> you, guys rock! thanks for the help
[02:39] <IRCmad_alfred> no really, i've got a radeon 9800 with two monitors connected
[02:39] <rob^> !alsa
[02:39] <ubotu> rob^: I don't know
[02:39] <rob^> dam
[02:39] <hondje> thoreauputic: and it's made worse by how it's underempasized, I think
[02:39] <thoreauputic> jwark: the search function is particularly useful
[02:39] <thoreauputic> hondje: agreed
[02:39] <Heimdall> HappyFool : lrwxrwxrwx l root root 6 2005-06-18 14:35 /dev/modem -> ttySL0
[02:39] <hondje> I'd like to see it more 'in your face', since it's such a different concept for newbies
[02:39] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok, it looks like it might be working
[02:40] <Heimdall> oki
[02:40] <Heimdall> so ?
[02:40] <Heimdall> now I have nothing more to do ?
[02:40] <HappyFool> Heimdall: well, let's see if we can test it
[02:40] <Heimdall> at least the driver works
[02:40] <Heimdall> ok
[02:40] <HappyFool> Heimdall: try in your home directory typing 'wvdialconf wvdial.conf' and see what happens
[02:40] <thoreauputic> hondje: I'm hoping there will be a "first run" popup with some info for Breezy, for those reasons
[02:40] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you might need to sudo that, but try it without first
[02:41] <Heimdall> ok
[02:41] <kbrooks> you know what's strange?
[02:41] <hondje> thoreauputic: Oh, yeah....I was thinking making the 'add-remove programs' thing more comprehensive, get their feet wet
[02:41] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I don't need sudo
[02:41] <nexuslab> Ineed help people .I installed kubuntu...without dhcp...so without net repositories...then after installation...when i try to do "sudo mycommand" i get this error:
[02:41] <nexuslab> sudo: unable to lookup desktop(my host name...) via gethostbyname()
[02:41] <nexuslab> Password : postdrop: unable to look up public/pickup:no such file or directory
[02:41] <hondje> hell, it took me until like 2003 until I started using package managers, probably because I started on mdk and urpmi sucked bad at the time.....
[02:41] <Heimdall> HappyFool : it writes a lot of stuff
[02:42] <hondje> kbrooks: what's strange?
[02:42] <HappyFool> Heimdall: does it look like good or bad news?
[02:42] <thoreauputic> hondje: at least it has an "advanced" button that opens synaptic: but then, most new users are scred of "advanced" buttons...
[02:42] <Heimdall> HappyFool : everything seems to be OK
[02:42] <thoreauputic> *scared
[02:42] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yay
[02:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> nexuslab, have you rebooted the box?
[02:42] <Heimdall> HappyFool : as it is written on each end line
[02:42] <kbrooks> hondje, nothing :P
[02:42] <hondje> thoreauputic: well, some probably are, but I think most newbies are pretty computer saavy w/ windows and like to press buttons like 'advanced', it tempts them :)
[02:42] <hondje> kbrooks: that was strange :p
[02:42] <Heimdall> HappyFool : and at the end : "found a modem on /dev/ttySL0"
[02:43] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok, that sounds promising
[02:43] <hondje> though I get the whole 'bring in the real newbies' idea
[02:43] <thoreauputic> hondje: I guess most people who install an OS are not really "newbies"
[02:43] <Heimdall> HappyFool : ok so looks like it was the good driver for the modem right ?
[02:43] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yeah, looks like it's a go
[02:43] <hondje> thoreauputic: yeah, though if in some crazy land ubuntu gets OEM'd, that'd be different
[02:43] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you need to setup ppp now (i.e., dial-up settings)
[02:43] <Heimdall> HappyFool : ok so now I go to SSYTEM->ADMINISTRATION->NETWORK
[02:44] <HappyFool> Heimdall: try first the gnome ppp thing. yeah, there exactly
[02:44] <quidoff> how do I install the new kernel 2.6.12? I downloaded it from http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.12.tar.bz2
[02:44] <hondje> thoreauputic: getting synaptic in their faces w/ a clearer explaination of what it is, and my 'places' menu bug I think would be good ideas
[02:44] <thoreauputic> hondje: ah, but then there would no doubt be an OEM instruction wizard too
[02:44] <nexuslab> Kamping_Kaiser yes
[02:44] <hondje> thoreauputic: oh yeah, no doubt
[02:44] <Heimdall> HappyFool :: I wrote the parameters already
[02:44] <HappyFool> Heimdall: at some point you'll need a phone line to test this with ;)
[02:44] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok
[02:44] <Heimdall> in connexion per modem
[02:44] <Heimdall> BUT
[02:44] <bionic> Can anyone help so i can play sound from more than one sound source at the same time? I've done the things on http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly but that didnt fix it. Thanks. I actually managed to to get xmms and mplayer to run at the same time, that was when i changed the output plugin in xmms to alsa. But what do i do with sources that use OSS? anyway to force them?
[02:44] <HappyFool> but?
[02:44] <Tronex> hi there
[02:44] <Heimdall> but
[02:45] <Heimdall> just before lunch
[02:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> nexus lab, thats usualy a result of the hostnames not matching.
[02:45] <Heimdall> I tried "auto detect" the modem
[02:45] <Tronex> does anyone of you happen to have a notebook with an ati rage mobility chipset ?
[02:45] <Heimdall> and it found nothing
[02:45] <Heimdall> let me try another time
[02:45] <nexuslab> Kamping_Kaiser more times...same error...may it depends on the fact i have no lan card installed...better...i have but it doesn't recognize it..is a 3c940 gigabit lancard
[02:45] <hondje> thoreauputic: I'd also like to see a thing where if you're in nautilus, and you have a file you don't have permission on, and you try to delete it, it pops up a gksudo box to let you do it
[02:46] <hondje> Or to move it, or change permissions....chmod seems scary to all newbies
[02:46] <nexuslab> but if i'm not root...i cant install  the card!!!
[02:46] <HappyFool> Heimdall: the phone line might have to be plugged in
[02:46] <thoreauputic> hondje: yes, that should happen: but with a warning/question I feel
[02:46] <Heimdall> HappyFool : proprieties -> modem-> auto-detect ok ?
[02:46] <HappyFool> Heimdall: and try pointing it to /dev/ttySL0 instead of /dev/modem, though that shouldn't matter
[02:46] <hondje> thoreauputic: hrm, you can change the title w/ gksudo
[02:46] <raavi02> Hello everybody. I have specific problem in regard to detect the network printer.
[02:46] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ag, i wouldn't bother with that
[02:46] <thoreauputic> hondje: true
[02:46] <HappyFool> Heimdall: just tell it to use /dev/modem
[02:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> nexuslab, so you cant get root access?
[02:46] <Heimdall> HappyFool : ok wait
[02:46] <thoreauputic> hondje: I guess it a Zenity box?
[02:47] <hondje> zenity?
[02:47] <raavi02> I have installed ubuntu locally, barring the network installation, and don't know how to use the network printer.
[02:47] <Heimdall> HappyFool : nw the phone line isn't on my laptop... in order to talk to you
[02:47] <raavi02> can any body help me.
[02:47] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I'll try to detect the modem without, it normally should be okay
[02:47] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i figured as much ;)
[02:47] <thoreauputic> hondje: zenity is like xdialog/kdialog - graphical front ends for scripts
[02:47] <hondje> hrm, --title doesn't do it right
[02:48] <Heimdall> HappyFool : ok, can I try to detect the port whitout type anything ?
[02:48] <hondje> thoreauputic: oh, I must find it, I LOVE kdialog
[02:48] <Heimdall> I mean nor /dev/modem nor anything
[02:48] <HappyFool> Heimdall: let me see if i can access that dialog with shutting down my connection...
[02:48] <Tronex> anyone tried to get dri working with x.org for ati rage mobility ?
[02:48] <Heimdall> hum
[02:48] <raavi02>  I have installed ubuntu locally, barring the network installation, and don't know how to use the network printer. Can anybody help how to setup.
[02:48] <obrien> what happened to msttcorefonts package ?
[02:48] <HappyFool> if i disappear suddenly you'll know why ;)
[02:49] <Heimdall> HappyFool : ok in the same time I try on my side
[02:49] <thoreauputic> obrien: nothing - it's in the multiverse repository
[02:49] <Mez> hmm
[02:49] <HappyFool> Heimdall: just type in /dev/modem for 'Modem port'
[02:49] <HappyFool> Heimdall: don't use the autodetect button
[02:49] <Mez> whats a good way on the command line to quickly just replace new lines from an output with spaces
[02:49] <nexuslab> Kamping_Kaiser exactly
[02:49] <Heimdall> HappyFool :
[02:49] <nexuslab> i cant be root
[02:49] <hondje> thoreauputic: ah, gksu -sudo-mode --message "Stuff" --icon /path/to/scary/icon maybe
[02:49] <Heimdall> I typed nothing, pressed the button
[02:49] <Heimdall> and it wrote me /dev/modem
[02:49] <HappyFool> Heimdall: and?
[02:50] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok, that's good
[02:50] <raavi02>  I have installed ubuntu locally, barring the network installation, and don't know how to use the network printer. Can anybody help how to setup.
[02:50] <Heimdall> it looks good yeah
[02:50] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i couldn't get it to find my winmodem
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> nexuslab, have you tried sudo -s?
[02:50] <obrien> thoreauputic, I have multiverse in my sources.list, but it says: Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:50] <ompaul> to bravely go where others are all the time ... apt-get install kde
[02:50] <HappyFool> Heimdall: now setup the phone number, user/password options and try it out
[02:50] <thoreauputic> hondje: scary_icon=billgates.png ;-)
[02:50] <Heimdall> HappyFool : ok, now how can I test ?
[02:50] <hondje> thoreauputic: hehe
[02:50] <Riddell> ompaul: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  is usually more suitable
[02:50] <HappyFool> Heimdall: only one way really ;) dial-up
[02:50] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I've already done that; but how to connect ?
[02:51] <Heimdall> sorry, I'm fool, but I don't see the button to dial up
[02:51] <ompaul> Riddell, now there is a thought
[02:51] <HappyFool> Heimdall: go back to the first dialog box ('Network settings') and 'activate' the interface
[02:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> nexuslab, if you "cat /etc/hostname" and "head /etc/hosts" does "hosts" have your hostname on one of hte top few rows?
[02:51] <HappyFool> Heimdall: button just below properties
[02:51] <Heimdall> oh I've done this many times
[02:51] <HappyFool> Heimdall: there's also a gnome applet you can use
[02:51] <Heimdall> and as it did nothing I thought it was not that
[02:51] <Heimdall> lets try now....
[02:52] <thoreauputic> obrien: apt-cache show msttcorefonts returns a result here, and I installed them without issues
[02:52] <HappyFool> Heimdall: well, if sl-modem-modules wasn't installed, it wouldn't work before
[02:52] <lie[> hailz, when creating partitions (for instance, /home,swap,/) , is the order important?
[02:52] <Heimdall> HappyFool : well... I have to disconnect ti test
[02:52] <thoreauputic> obrien: check your sources.list and run apt-get update maybe?
[02:52] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yip
[02:52] <Heimdall> but if it work, I'll see you right now with my ubuntu ;)
[02:52] <HappyFool> Heimdall: one moment
[02:52] <Heimdall> but I'm quite pessimist :)
[02:52] <nexuslab> Kamping_Kaiser i checked them...my host name miss in the files
[02:53] <Heimdall> yes ?
[02:53] <obrien> thoreauputic, gah, i saw multiverse in my backports section, sorry :)D I have it now
[02:53] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you can look in /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog for pppd messages
[02:53] <nexuslab> but i can't modify them if i'm not root!!
[02:53] <nexuslab> :|
[02:53] <hondje> thoreauputic: yeah, zenity is the way to go, gksu sucks too :)
[02:53] <Heimdall> ok
[02:53] <HappyFool> Heimdall: might be useful if something goes wrong (e.g., wrong password or something)
[02:53] <thoreauputic> obrien: my advice FWIW is not to use backports
[02:53] <HappyFool> Heimdall: otherwise, good luck
[02:53] <Heimdall> ok I note
[02:53] <amir__> anyone having problems with MSN on kopete in hoary?
[02:53] <hondje> thoreauputic: I heard backports is an official project now, what does that imply for the 'bad jdong!' crowd?
[02:54] <HappyFool> hondje: really?
[02:54] <Heimdall> ok, brb !!!!!!!!
[02:54] <waterbeetle> how do I set up the Java Runtime Environment properly?
[02:54] <hondje> HappyFool: that's what I read somewhere, let me see if I can't prove it
[02:54] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hopefully in ubuntu ;)
[02:54] <hondje> !java
[02:54] <thoreauputic> hondje: glad to hear it's official - hope it gets more reliable
[02:54] <ubotu> [java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[02:54] <Tronex> So, I take it, noone of you ever recompiled the kernel to get dri working with an ati card?
[02:54] <waterbeetle> thanks
[02:54] <hondje> thoreauputic: yeah, it wouldn't be hard either...well, hard skill wise, but the 'what's wrong's are easy to see
[02:55] <HappyFool> hondje: i believe you ;) sounds like good news. maybe they'll co-ordinate better with ubuntu proper
[02:55] <hondje> like 'once you have all the build-deps, if you can't get the rest just use -d and ignore deps!'
[02:55] <HappyFool> hondje: but what about legal issues? doesn't backports have some grey-area software ? (w32codecs etc.)
[02:55] <hondje> HappyFool: I'm just throwing what I read, man, I dunno about that
[02:55] <hondje> I should make hondje's repos public...
[02:55] <HappyFool> hondje: ok, just curious
[02:56] <hondje> I host it from .nl, so nyaa nyaa, and my pkgs are fairly decent IMHO
[02:56] <rob^> is there a guide/wiki on enabling alsa somewhere?
[02:56] <onkarshinde> Can anybody help me playing movies using totem?
[02:56] <hondje> the ubuntu marillat...nah, too much bandwidth/time for me :-(
[02:56] <onkarshinde> Do i need to install any extra library?
[02:56] <HappyFool> !Restricted
[02:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:57] <HappyFool> onkarshinde: take a look at the url ubotu posted; has some instructions
[02:57] <hondje> HappyFool: I lied, sir
[02:58] <hondje> thoreauputic, too...I just checked the backports page, still unofficial
[02:58] <HappyFool> hondje: ah well
[02:58] <thoreauputic> hondje: right
[02:58] <HappyFool> hondje: what's the page?
[02:58] <HappyFool> url, i mean
[02:58] <hondje> http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[02:58] <Heimdall_> HappyFool : back
[02:58] <HappyFool> Heimdall: success?
[02:59] <Heimdall_> no
[02:59] <HappyFool> doh
[02:59] <Heimdall_> yes :(
[02:59] <Heimdall_> as always
[02:59] <Heimdall_> it says that ppp0 is active
[02:59] <Heimdall_> but does nothing
[02:59] <internet10> zijn er hier meiskes  die op zoek zijn naar een lekkere date
[03:00] <vHintswen> hi
[03:00] <Heimdall_> HappyFool : I'm looking at the log... NO DIALTONE
[03:00] <quidoff> hi
[03:00] <quidoff> dies anyone have the new kernel installed?
[03:00] <Heimdall_> timeout set to 75 seconds
[03:00] <quidoff> if so, how?
[03:00] <Heimdall_> expect (CONNECT)
[03:00] <Heimdall_> ^M
[03:00] <hondje> internet10: #ubuntu-nl
[03:00] <vHintswen> i've got a problem, on my other computer i installed ubuntu and my mouse isn't working, it also isn't responding to commands
[03:00] <Heimdall_> AT&FHOL2^M^M
[03:00] <Heimdall_> NO DIALTONE
[03:01] <Heimdall_> failed
[03:01] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hmm. the modem works under windows, right? and the line was properly plugged in?
[03:01] <hondje> HappyFool, thoreauputic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40291
[03:01] <mindspin> internet 10 but even there are no girls
[03:01] <Heimdall_> yes
[03:01] <hondje> 'As of June 2005, we are an official Ubuntu project, so we are acknowledged by the developers. Therefore, the developers won't have issues with Backports users'
[03:01] <HappyFool> hondje: my dutch isn't that good, but i get the idea that wasn't an ubuntu question ;)
[03:01] <Heimdall_> HappyFool : last night when I was talking to you it was it, under win
[03:01] <mindspin> twasnt
[03:01] <hondje> HappyFool: probably not, I see dutch and just whip out the -nl
[03:02] <hondje> before my dutch nick gets me hit :)
[03:02] <Heimdall_> and even this morning,so it works properly with windows
[03:02] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hrm
[03:02] <vHintswen> o.o
[03:02] <Heimdall_> I don't understand too...
[03:02] <Heimdall_> wy does it saiy that ppp0 is active
[03:03] <Heimdall_> if it does not work
[03:03] <vHintswen> omg
[03:03] <Heimdall> I don't hear the 'clic' of the modem
[03:03] <vHintswen> i'm never gonna get it fixed
[03:04] <hondje> http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/decalkit.html
[03:05] <hondje> hehe, Novell is funny... "Microsoft employees should indicate this clearly in order to receive priority processing"
[03:05] <kbrooks> bbl
[03:05] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i'm stumped
[03:06] <ForgeX> hello... what packages do I need to play .wmv and .asf files? win32 codecs methinks but it's not im my synaptic manager
[03:07] <hondje> ForgeX: mind if I msg you?
[03:07] <Jamey> I have just installed Ubuntu (5.0.4) on my main machine. It has a 15in Samsung TFT; when the login prompt is supposed to appear, I get a garbled screen with the cursor clearly visible. Any ideas? Many thanks
[03:07] <ForgeX> hondje: no go ahead
[03:07] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i really don't think it'll help, but you could try rebooting
[03:08] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[03:08] <ubotu> restricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:08] <HappyFool> Heimdall: also, regaring the 'click' -- you should hear it even if there's no line plugged in, so it's one way to check without disconnecting this pc
[03:08] <cianci10> Hi, I installed Apache Web Server and PHP, they both work great. My question is how do i install and configue MySQL?
[03:08] <thoreauputic> ForgeX: read the bot's URL above
[03:08] <Jamey> cianci10cianci10
[03:08] <mindspin> apt-get install mysql-server
[03:08] <Jamey> cianci10, have you looked in the package manager?
[03:09] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I hear nothing
[03:09] <Jamey> ahh, there you go ^^
[03:09] <HappyFool> cianci10: mysql is also available via synaptic (or whatever you used to install apache)
[03:09] <cianci10> ok, but then how do i configure mysql with apache?
[03:09] <Jamey> can anyone help me with my TFT problem? ^_^
[03:09] <Jamey> it will start the daemon automatically
[03:09] <ForgeX> thorapeutic: ok
[03:09] <HappyFool> cianci10: i think there are php-mysql modules
[03:09] <Heimdall> HappyFool : could it be another error
[03:09] <Jamey> and you just connect via a PHP script to the localhost server
[03:09] <Heimdall> HappyFool : another thing bad configured
[03:09] <HappyFool> Heimdall: unfortunately, i'm not sure how to test this
[03:09] <Heimdall> HappyFool : cause now it detects the modem well..
[03:10] <cianci10> HappyFool, what do u mean?
[03:10] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you have the kernel module loaded, and the daemon running, and yes, the modem is detected
[03:10] <Heimdall> so if it can't dial up it has to be something else
[03:10] <cianci10> oh, never mind
[03:10] <cianci10> i get it
[03:10] <Jamey> can someone help me?
[03:10] <cianci10> sure, what do u need, Jamey?
[03:10] <Jamey> I have just installed Ubuntu (5.0.4) on my main machine. It has a 15in Samsung TFT; when the login prompt is supposed to appear, I get a garbled screen with the cursor clearly visible. Any ideas? Many thanks
[03:11] <HappyFool> cianci10: i see a php4-mysql package
[03:11] <cianci10> what is the command to get that, HappyFool?
[03:11] <Heimdall> HappyFool : the peripheric is ppp0 right ?
[03:11] <Jamey> try "apt-cache search mysql"
[03:11] <HappyFool> cianci10: 'sudo aptitude install php4-mysql'
[03:11] <cianci10> Jamey, that once happend to me, coincidentaly, i just rebooted and everything was fine.
[03:11] <HappyFool> cianci10: i recommend synaptic, however: System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[03:11] <cianci10> ok, thank you
[03:11] <Jamey> ciancil0, I'll try that thanks
[03:12] <HappyFool> Heimdall: the interface is called ppp0
[03:12] <Heimdall> HappyFool : in the properties when I am in 'general' I have to check 'this peripheric is configured' right ? and fill the rest
[03:12] <onkarshinde> Is there any voice recognition program for Ubuntu?
[03:12] <HappyFool> Heimdall: oh, right
[03:12] <Jamey> try doing an "apt-cache search voice", onkarshinde
[03:12] <Heimdall> HappyFool : so I am doing...
[03:12] <cianci10> onkarshinde, I was wondering the same thing
[03:12] <Jamey> onkarshinde
[03:12] <Jamey> or do a searhc in the package manager
[03:13] <Jamey> *search
[03:13] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yes, it's ppp0 in that dialog
[03:13] <Heimdall> HappyFool : phone number : I put it
[03:13] <Heimdall> HappyFool : prefix : I don't know... I think there is no one
[03:13] <HappyFool> Heimdall: the problem is more likely with the driver, since you have 'NO DIALTONE'
[03:13] <Jamey> ciancil0: I've still got the same problem. It shows a garbled screen which I can only presume is the login GUI (I heard the sound effect, so it probably is)
[03:14] <Heimdall> HappyFool : user and pwd, I put it
[03:14] <HappyFool> Heimdall: these details are not yet testable
[03:14] <Heimdall> HappyFool : ah you think ?
[03:14] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yeah, you said you don't hear the 'click' (i presume you do hear such a click in windows?)
[03:14] <Heimdall> yes
[03:14] <HappyFool> Heimdall: and pppd reports 'NO DIALTONE', so the problem is at a deeper level
[03:14] <Heimdall> and the composition of the phone number
[03:14] <orjan> If I do a command in the terminal, should I see that Ubuntu doing the command. When i type "sudo cp /etc/apt/sources..." i prompt for the root password and after that Im on a new blank line. Have Ubuntu downloaded the file whitch I supposed I should?
[03:15] <HappyFool> Heimdall: does the computer still think the ppp interface is up?
[03:15] <Heimdall> hum
[03:15] <Jamey> I am having problems: after a normal install of Ubuntu 5.0.4, my TFT display is garbled when it reaches the logon GUI. I think it may be something to do with the resolution and/or refresh rate. Anybody?
[03:15] <Heimdall> no
[03:16] <Heimdall> 'is not active'
[03:16] <ivanox> anyone inhere using winetools!? I got this strange problem when installing internetexplorer, the installation start and all but then just stops at 47%
[03:16] <vHintswen> i've got a problem, on my other computer i installed ubuntu and my mouse isn't working, it also isn't responding to commands
[03:16] <Jamey> Can somebody please reply to me? Thanks
[03:16] <Heimdall> HappyFool : right under the 'connexion per modem' there is something
[03:17] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ah-ha?
[03:17] <Heimdall> you don't have this on your ubuntu ?
[03:17] <HappyFool> i don't have it in french ;)
[03:17] <hondje> Jamey: can you do stuff from a console? ctrl-alt-f1?
[03:17] <Heimdall> HappyFool : yeah that's why I'm tring to translate it :-D
[03:17] <HappyFool> I have 'Modem connection: The interface ppp0 is active'
[03:17] <onkarshinde> Jamey: How does I know exactly which package to install for voic recognition? Is speex one of them?
[03:17] <Heimdall> k
[03:17] <Heimdall> right under it
[03:18] <Heimdall> internet connexio n?
[03:18] <Jamey> onkarshinde, google the package name
[03:18] <HappyFool> hmm
[03:18] <Heimdall> with a network card ?
[03:18] <HappyFool> i don't have that
[03:18] <vHintswen> omg can anyone help me or am i just wasiting more time here
[03:18] <thoreauputic> Jamey: try running ` sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg `
[03:18] <HappyFool> i have 'Ethernet connection'
[03:18] <Heimdall> interface eth0
[03:18] <vHintswen> i tried b4 and no1 could help
[03:18] <Jamey> hondje: I don't get any response with Ctrl + Alt + Fx (whatever number)
[03:18] <HappyFool> Heimdall: that's for your network card -- does the laptop have a builtin network card?
[03:18] <Jamey> thoreauputic: how do I get to the shell?
[03:18] <Jamey> it books straight into the X logon screen
[03:18] <thoreauputic> Jamey: indeed :/
[03:18] <Heimdall> HappyFool : ok, yes it has one
[03:18] <hondje> Jamey: that's not a good sign, stays the same?
[03:18] <Jamey> *loads
[03:18] <cianci10> does anyone know what this means: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:19] <Heimdall> HappyFool : one that works well
[03:19] <thoreauputic> Jamey: do you know how to chroot from a live CD ?
[03:19] <HappyFool> Heimdall: that's what thats for
[03:19] <zerokills> anyone know why my sound doesnt work in media players?
[03:19] <Jamey> I don't have a live CD, do I?
[03:19] <Heimdall> HappyFool : but I didn't told you all
[03:19] <cianci10> does anyone know what this means: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:19] <HappyFool> heh
[03:19] <Heimdall> 'cause I thought it wans't important.. but I have doubts now
[03:19] <Jamey> ciancil0: tried running what it says?
[03:19] <grepper> cianci10: I"m betting it wants you to run "dpkg --configure -a"
[03:19] <Jamey> I am having problems: after a normal install of Ubuntu 5.0.4, my TFT display is garbled when it reaches the logon GUI. I think it may be something to do with the resolution and/or refresh rate. Anybody?
[03:19] <Heimdall> since we don't..
[03:19] <Jamey> damn sorry
[03:19] <hondje> thoreauputic: OT, but does the ubuntu liveCD have rescue type pkgs on it?
[03:19] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok...
[03:19] <vHintswen> i've got a problem, on my other computer i installed ubuntu and my mouse isn't working, it also isn't responding to commands
[03:19] <Heimdall> HappyFool : during installation, the configuration of the network failed
[03:19] <thoreauputic> Jamey: no need to repeat, BTW
[03:20] <Heimdall> DHCP problem
[03:20] <cianci10> that was a no brainer, lol
[03:20] <cianci10> sorry about that
[03:20] <Heimdall> I checked : configure later
[03:20] <Jamey> sorry thore.. I accidentally pasted it again instead of your name :/
[03:20] <thoreauputic> hondje: hmm - I guess just standard shell stuff
[03:20] <Heimdall> HappyFool : could it be important ?
[03:20] <Jamey> how do I chroot a live CD?
[03:20] <Jamey> or just get it into Bash without booting X?
[03:20] <vHintswen>  i tried re-installing ubuntu and it still giving me the same problem!
[03:20] <Jamey> I just need to configure X, right?
[03:20] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i doubt it
[03:20] <thoreauputic> Jamey: do you have the Ubuntu live CD ?
[03:21] <thoreauputic> or similar?
[03:21] <Jamey> no I haev the install CD
[03:21] <HappyFool> Heimdall: your network card wasn't plugged in at the time, was it?
[03:21] <Heimdall> HappyFool : ok, thats I was thinking too...
[03:21] <Jamey> Thoreauputic: that's different, right?
[03:21] <Heimdall> HappyFool : yes it was
[03:21] <hondje> Jamey: yeah, you up for a large download?
[03:21] <thoreauputic> Jamey: you may be able to boot the install CD with "rescue" to get a shell
[03:21] <Jamey> not really hondje I'm sure I must be able to prevent it booting into X, no?
[03:21] <ivanox> cmon, anyone that installed winecvs with winetools, how much time did it take to install internetexplorer for you?
[03:21] <Jamey> thanks much appreciated
[03:21] <thoreauputic> Jamey: I haven't tried it personally
[03:22] <hondje> Jamey: oh, yeah, never thunk of that
[03:22] <Jamey> Thoreauputic: can't I just "pause" it before it loads startx??
[03:22] <hondje> crap, I wish I rebooted more
[03:22] <hondje> is there an 'interactive mode' like RH/MDK have?
[03:22] <thoreauputic> Jamey: worth a try I guess - Ctrl-C or something
[03:22] <Jamey> ok thanks
[03:22] <Heimdall> HappyFool : it begins to be boring :)
[03:23] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I think we'll never succed
[03:23] <vHintswen> OMG
[03:23] <thoreauputic> Jamey: probably when it says "starting gdm"
[03:23] <HappyFool> Heimdall: well, i'm out of ideas, i'm afraid
[03:23] <Heimdall> :/
[03:23] <HappyFool> Heimdall: one very last thing you could try doing is rebooting
[03:23] <HappyFool> Heimdall: and trying again
[03:23] <hondje> thoreauputic: is there a point when it hits the init scripts it offers you a chance to go into 'interactive' mode?
[03:23] <Jamey> Thoreauputic: it worked! I'm in Bash. Thanks!
[03:24] <Heimdall> HappyFool : yes I'll do that
[03:24] <Jamey> Thoreauputic: Now how do I configure X... somewhere in /etc I'm guessing?!
[03:24] <thoreauputic> hondje: I really don't know - I reboot only for new kernels :/
[03:24] <HappyFool> Heimdall: but that's clutching at straws
[03:24] <Heimdall> HappyFool : you know what, I'll soon have another modem !!!
[03:24] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ah-ha?
[03:24] <thoreauputic> Jamey: no
[03:24] <HappyFool> Heimdall: what sort?
[03:24] <hondje> thoreauputic: same, in theory
[03:24] <Jamey> Thoreauputic: oh where then?
[03:24] <hondje> ubuntu is buggy enough I've done it a bit more than that
[03:24] <Heimdall> yes,adsl :)
[03:24] <thoreauputic> Jamey: run ` sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg `
[03:24] <chad> using ubuntu on my notebook.. seems to work great except for a few issues... first off.. when i close the laptop cover, x suspends and doesn't restart when I re-open it.. anyone know what causes this or how to fix it?
[03:24] <vHintswen> i've got a problem, on my other computer i installed ubuntu and my mouse isn't working, it also isn't responding to commands
[03:24] <Heimdall> 'freebox' I think obviously you don't know as it is a french stuff
[03:24] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ah, i'm jealous!
[03:25] <Heimdall> HappyFool : yes, 8Mb
[03:25] <Jamey> Thoreauputic: Now how do I configure X... somewhere in /etc I'm guessing?!Thoreauputic:okay but will that detect my resolution/refresh rate when reconfig'ing
[03:25] <HappyFool> wow
[03:25] <HappyFool> Heimdall: nice
[03:25] <Heimdall> hehe !=
[03:25] <Heimdall> yes
[03:25] <Jamey> damn it, I did it again :/
[03:25] <manitoba98xp> Um, when I'm updating with the Ubuntu Update Manager, what does "NOT AUTHENTICATED" mean.
[03:25] <Jamey> stupid TinyIRC client :@
[03:25] <Heimdall> it should arrive next week
[03:25] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hopefully that'll work with ubuntu
[03:25] <manitoba98xp> Instead of Installed, it said "NOT AUTHENTICATED" for my kernel update.
[03:26] <FireCat> Can anyyone tell me how to redetect a sound card
[03:26] <thoreauputic> Jamey: choose the simple options, and maybe if it doesn't work, try it with the vesa driver (you can do it again any time)
[03:26] <Heimdall> HappyFool : a friend of mine told me it was even harder to install
[03:26] <HappyFool> manitoba98xp: do you have non-ubuntu repositories ?
[03:26] <Heimdall> HappyFool :: oh you think ?
[03:26] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i don't know, i've never done it
[03:26] <manitoba98xp> Hold on.
[03:26] <Heimdall> HappyFool : :)
[03:26] <hondje> Jamey: got pen/paper?
[03:26] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I'm looking for what kind of modem it is
[03:26] <manitoba98xp> No, everything has "ubuntu.com" in the domain name.
[03:26] <mike> does anyone know how to get phpMyAdmim?
[03:27] <vHintswen> i've got a problem, on my other computer i installed ubuntu and my mouse isn't working, it also isn't responding to commands
[03:27] <hondje> Jamey: if you don't mind, I can msg you useful crap
[03:27] <HappyFool> manitoba98xp: hmm. odd
[03:27] <Jamey> hondje: please do
[03:27] <mike> does anyone know how to get phpMyAdmin?
[03:27] <roberto_> ciao ragazzi
[03:27] <vHintswen> i've got a problem, on my other computer i installed ubuntu and my mouse isn't working, it also isn't responding to commands
[03:27] <manitoba98xp> I did it anyways, and it doesn't seem damaging, but I backed up my kernel, sources, etc. just in case.
[03:27] <Fabian> hi, I'm trying to reach ftp://ftp.astron.com/pub/file/ to download File 4.10 but I can't reach that server. Does anybody know where else to get it?
[03:27] <HappyFool> manitoba98xp: if you want to fix this, can you paste the output of 'apt-key list' here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:28] <Heimdall> HappyFool : tis is it : http://support.free.fr/maj/freebox_V3-V4_ppp.pdf
[03:28] <roberto_> speak italian
[03:28] <Heimdall> this*
[03:28] <vHintswen> CIAO!
[03:28] <bob2> Fabian: that's the "file" command?
[03:28] <mike> how do i install phpmyadmin?
[03:28] <Varanger> hi
[03:28] <roberto_> i'm not speak english
[03:28] <vHintswen> i've got a problem, on my other computer i installed ubuntu and my mouse isn't working, it also isn't responding to commands
[03:28] <Fabian> bob2 dunno....
[03:28] <Varanger> hola roberto_
[03:28] <mindspin> mike sudo synaptic
[03:28] <roberto_> ciao
[03:28] <bob2> Fabian: so why are you trying to download it if you don't know what it is?
[03:28] <bob2> roberto_: #ubuntu-it
[03:28] <mindspin> roberto #ubuntu-it maybe?
[03:29] <mike> ciao raberto_ i am from italy
[03:29] <roberto_> ciao mike
[03:29] <manitoba98xp> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/117
[03:29] <Fabian> bob2, I'm quiet new to linux, but I'm trying to build a lfs system. And it sais, I need that package
[03:29] <Varanger> I have installed kernel 2.6.11 and I am having problems because it breezes after the login screen
[03:29] <roberto_>  la prima volta che chatto
[03:29] <Fabian> bob2, but yes, it is the file command
[03:29] <bob2> Fabian: why are you using LFS then?
[03:29] <Varanger> s/breezes/freezes
[03:29] <HappyFool> Heimdall: there's not much on dsl on the wiki... hmm
[03:29] <bob2> Fabian: also, #lfs would be the place to ask
[03:29] <roberto_> ed  la prima volta che uso linux
[03:30] <Fabian> bob2, because I want to!
[03:30] <bob2> Varanger: 2.6.11 in hoary is known to not work
[03:30] <Fabian> alright, I'll ask there
[03:30] <mike> thank you mindspin for the advice
[03:30] <Heimdall> HappyFool :/ :)
[03:30] <mike> i found it in Synaptic
[03:30] <vHintswen> i've got a problem, on my other computer i installed ubuntu and my mouse isn't working, it also isn't responding to commands
[03:30] <mindspin> Fabian are you sure it's the right way to start with lfs?
[03:30] <mike> g2g
[03:30] <Varanger> bob2: thanks for the answer!
[03:30] <HappyFool> manitoba98xp: looks the same as mine... sorry, i'm not sure what the issue is
[03:30] <bob2> Varanger: just use 2.6.10
[03:30] <HappyFool> manitoba98xp: what kernel update was it ? what version, i mean?
[03:31] <bob2> vHintswen: you're just confusing everyone by claiming things like "isn't responding to commands", which is clearly untrue
[03:31] <Hunchback> hey people, i have a question: it's seems like i don't have portage installed... where can i download it from?
[03:31] <mindspin> mike synaptic is your friend when it comes tu installing/upgrading
[03:31] <vHintswen> it's true!
[03:31] <roberto_> help me please: my linux don't see partitions ntfs. How to do? thanks
[03:31] <bob2> Hunchback: I'm not sure if that's a lame troll or not, but Ubuntu obviously doesn't use portage.
[03:31] <vHintswen> when i type a command nothing happens
[03:31] <bob2> roberto_: #ubuntu-it
[03:31] <bob2> vHintswen: really? what about when you run 'vim'?
[03:31] <vHintswen> 1 sec i try
[03:32] <Fabian> mindspin, why not? I didn't start with lfs! I had linux some times before and using ubuntu at the moment
[03:32] <JDigital> hey guys how do I install im-ja
[03:32] <mindspin> Fabian you said you are a newbie
[03:32] <FireCat> Can anyone tell me how to redetect a sound card? I just installed a new one. I'd rather not reinstall for it, but reinstallation at this point might be a good option
[03:32] <HappyFool> roberto_: take a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:33] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i'm sure there are people here using DSL with ubuntu
[03:33] <Hunchback> bob2: i read that the command emerge is based on portage...
[03:33] <vHintswen> nothing happens
[03:33] <HappyFool> Heimdall: when you get the modem, maybe you can ask more
[03:33] <Hunchback> so i tought i should have portage
[03:33] <bob2> Hunchback: #gentoo
[03:33] <vHintswen> bob2 can i pm you?
[03:33] <bob2> Hunchback: ubuntu has nothing to do with emerge or portage
[03:33] <Hunchback> omh
[03:33] <HappyFool> Hunchback: we don't use emerge either ;) we use apt
[03:33] <bob2> vHintswen: why?
[03:33] <mindspin> Heimdall I use dsl, but via a woody router ;-)
[03:33] <vHintswen> to explain
[03:33] <Heimdall> HappyFool : yeah sure...
[03:34] <bob2> vHintswen: what's your native language?
[03:34] <vHintswen> english
[03:34] <Fabian> mindspin, not THAT much of a newbie.... I'm no pro
[03:34] <bob2> vHintswen: just explain in here
[03:34] <Heimdall> mindspin : a friend of mine do it so.. but with a debian
[03:34] <vHintswen> confusing when i get back looking for what you said
[03:34] <vHintswen> fine i explain here then...
[03:35] <mindspin> Heimdall I have no problems with it, but strange experiences with my provider
[03:35] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I just reboot.. does not work ... :/
[03:35] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok. sorry, i'm out of ideas
[03:35] <Heimdall> mindspin : where are u from ?
[03:35] <mindspin> they do not support all kinds of modems in several areas...
[03:35] <mindspin> germany
[03:35] <vHintswen> i turn computer on and wait for ogin screen, (mouse not working) i press ctrl+alt+f1 to go to command thing and is says 'ubuntu login:' i enter my username and press enter right?
[03:35] <Heimdall> HappyFool : forget it.... it was nice I learnt many things ;)
[03:35] <bob2> vHintswen: right
[03:36] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok
[03:36] <vHintswen> then on the next line should it say 'ubuntu password:'
[03:36] <HappyFool> Heimdall: at least you got past the brown screen of death
[03:36] <ivanox> lol
[03:36] <Heimdall> HappyFool : since I'll have my other modem/connexion soon, it is not so hard to stay with windows...
[03:36] <Heimdall> HappyFool : yeah !
[03:36] <ivanox> it's always hard to stay with windows =(
[03:36] <Heimdall> HappyFool : but i comparaison this was a easy pb
[03:36] <Lyesainer> i just wanted to install GStreamer, but apt fails to fetch it, even when i add the deb server from http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/download/
[03:36] <Lyesainer> any ideas how to get it?
[03:37] <HappyFool> Lyesainer: afaik, gstreamer comes with ubuntu
[03:37] <vHintswen> ???
[03:37] <ivanox> so anyone in here using winetools?!
[03:37] <HappyFool> Lyesainer: or at least, apt-cache search gstreamer reveals a host of matches
[03:37] <Lyesainer> well
[03:37] <Lyesainer> the Rhythmbox can't find any plugins
[03:37] <FireCat> Indeed gstreamer comes with ubuntu, although you need the universe packages to get all the plugins
[03:37] <bob2> vHintswen: you haven't explained your problem yet
[03:37] <hondje> sshd not default? :(
[03:37] <HappyFool> Lyesainer: take a look here for MP3: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:38] <vHintswen> well tell me shuld it say 'ubuntu password:'
[03:38] <ivanox> yes it should
[03:38] <vHintswen> well there's the first problem, it doesn't
[03:38] <Lyesainer> FireCat: you mean to uncomment the universe server in soruces.list ?
[03:38] <Heimdall> HappyFool : but I'm sure i'll have many many probelms in the future... configuring things like usb devices, and NETWORK
[03:38] <Heimdall> ;)
[03:38] <ivanox> what does it say?
[03:38] <vHintswen> nothng, it just gives me a blank line
[03:38] <HappyFool> Heimdall: heh
[03:39] <ivanox> vHintswen, which ver u got?
[03:39] <mindspin> Heimdal network should be easy
[03:39] <vHintswen> 5
[03:39] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ethernet devices are usually ok. wireless can be a pain, from what i've seen here
[03:39] <vHintswen> 5.04 i think...
[03:39] <mindspin> ok, wireless...
[03:39] <ivanox> ok
[03:39] <HappyFool> Heimdall: and usb is also usually ok
[03:39] <ivanox> and u got a normal i386 system?
[03:39] <vHintswen> just downloaded it a few days ago
[03:39] <vHintswen> no i got a abnormal amd system
[03:39] <HappyFool> Heimdall: depending on what sort of device it is, anyway
[03:39] <Heimdall> HappyFool : you probably understand that I don't believe someone who's telling me that one thing is usally ok ;)
[03:39] <ivanox> 64bits?
[03:40] <vHintswen> no
[03:40] <vHintswen> 32
[03:40] <HappyFool> Heimdall: heh
[03:40] <HappyFool> Heimdall: only real problem i've had is with my winmodem
[03:40] <Heimdall> HappyFool : since with my case, there are always pbs :-D
[03:40] <ivanox> but u took the i386 installer right?
[03:40] <vHintswen> yeah
[03:40] <HappyFool> Heimdall: my usb memory stick and bluetooth dongle work out of the box
[03:40] <Lyesainer> does xmms use it's own libraries to decode mp3 then?
[03:40] <ivanox> when u reboot do u get any graphic interface?
[03:40] <vHintswen> yes
[03:40] <Heimdall> HappyFool : you have a Mac ?
[03:40] <ivanox> can u log in on it?
[03:41] <vHintswen> yes
[03:41] <roberto_> help me please: i'm newbe - my ubuntu don't see partitions ntfs - haw to do?
[03:41] <HappyFool> Lyesainer: i'm not sure what the xmms plugin for mp3 is -- try xmms-mad
[03:41] <HappyFool> Heimdall: nope. never even seen one
[03:41] <ivanox> roberto_, sei italiano?
[03:41] <Heimdall> HappyFool : lol okay
[03:41] <ivanox> vHintswen, what exactly is your problem?
[03:41] <vHintswen> firstly my mouse doesn't work, secondly no commands are working
[03:41] <Lyesainer> HappyFool: em, i was wondering if i can make Rhythmbox use the xmms plugins
[03:42] <HappyFool> Lyesainer: i'm not sure, but i doubt it.
[03:42] <roberto_> ciao ivanox
[03:42] <Lyesainer> *nod*
[03:42] <HappyFool> Lyesainer: have you looked at wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?
[03:42] <ivanox> did u check your cd so it isn't corrupt?
[03:42] <Lyesainer> looking at it atm
[03:42] <ivanox> Salve roberto_
[03:42] <HappyFool> Lyesainer: e.g., gstreamer0.8-mad is for mp3s
[03:42] <roberto_> sono italiano ed  la prima volta che uso linx
[03:42] <vHintswen> how?
[03:42] <ivanox> hmm. dont remember exactly, when u boot its like checkmedia or something
[03:42] <ivanox> look among the options
[03:43] <ivanox> when u boot with the cd in drive
[03:43] <roberto_> oltre ad essere negato con linux, non conosco bene nemmeno l'inglese
[03:43] <vHintswen> wait... nope it's not corrupt
[03:43] <hondje> hey look, italian
[03:44] <hondje> dont' see that everyday in my neck o' the woods
[03:44] <roberto_> ivanox puoi aiutarmi?
[03:45] <ivanox> si, aspetta ;)
[03:45] <roberto_> ok grazie
[03:45] <ivanox> hondje, Im Swedish though I speak a bit of Italian ;P
[03:45] <hondje> ivanox: I'm an american that speaks korean and spanish daily :(
[03:45] <vHintswen> ???
[03:46] <ivanox> roberto_,  leggi il messagio
[03:46] <ivanox> korean wtf O_O
[03:46] <char1iecha1k> how do i change the hardware setup of my monitor
[03:46] <ivanox> hondje, why korean?
[03:46] <hondje> ivanox: The wife born/raised there, so we speak it at home for our daughter to learn ;-)
[03:46] <ivanox> ah ok :)
[03:46] <vHintswen> omg don't tell me youve given up on me already!
[03:46] <Varanger> what are the differences between fakeroot and sudo ?
[03:46] <hondje> ivanox: And spanish just because of where I live
[03:46] <roberto_> grazie ivanox, ho visto il messaggio ed ora ci provo, grazie ancora
[03:47] <ivanox> di nulla :)
[03:47] <HappyFool> vHintswen: the problem is you don't get a password prompt when you try to login?
[03:47] <kkanto34> hi
[03:48] <vHintswen> no
[03:48] <kkanto34> someone have mounted the pendrive on Ubuntu with read only
[03:48] <vHintswen> 1. mouse doesn't work 2. in command thing it doesn't ask for password(and no commands work)
[03:49] <Varanger> what are the differences between fakeroot and sudo ?
[03:49] <HappyFool> vHintswen: has the mouse ever worked under ubuntu?
[03:49] <vHintswen> no
[03:50] <kkanto34> yes
[03:50] <Heimdall> HappyFool : just one or two more things
[03:50] <hondje> Varanger: afaik, fakeroot just does stuff like makes files you touch owned by root, etc
[03:50] <Heimdall> HappyFool : if you have time
[03:50] <HappyFool> Heimdall: sure
[03:50] <HappyFool> vHintswen: hmm
[03:50] <Heimdall> HappyFool : in your network panel, in properties
[03:50] <Varanger> hondje:  and sudo does the same, doesn't it ?
[03:50] <HappyFool> vHintswen: so all you've done is install from the cd, and on the first boot the mouse didn't work, is that correct?
[03:50] <Heimdall> connexio, general, DNS, click on hosts
[03:51] <hondje> Varanger: sudo allows you to execute commands that are normally not allowed to you
[03:51] <Heimdall> what do you have ? what is it ,?
[03:51] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok
[03:51] <vHintswen> yes
[03:51] <hondje> Varanger: though ubuntu sets it up to allow you to run ALL commands, it's often used to allow worker bees to do stuff like tinker w/ ifconfig while keeping root passwd safe, and some commands forbidden
[03:51] <HappyFool> Heimdall: first line is 'ff00::0'    'ip6-mcastprefix'
[03:51] <amir__> im trying to load tomboy and it simply hangs. fully updated hoary. anyone had that?
[03:51] <kkanto34> someone help me
[03:51] <kkanto34> ????
[03:51] <HappyFool> vHintswen: hm. tricky
[03:52] <kkanto34> my pendrive is mounted with read only
[03:52] <Varanger> hondje: fakeroot only touches "root" files and sudo, not only touches them but it also run root commands ... am I right ?
[03:52] <hondje> Varanger: yes, that's my understanding of fakeroot
[03:52] <Heimdall> HappyFool : ok me too... so it can not be this :)
[03:52] <Varanger> hondje: thanks!
[03:52] <hondje> Varanger: like, /sbin/shutdown usually requires root
[03:53] <hondje> Varanger: but sudo shutdown lets you do that when you're a regular user
[03:53] <HappyFool> Heimdall: that's at a much higher level than the modem driver
[03:53] <kkanto34> How I can mounted it with read/write????
[03:53] <hondje> fakeroot would just let you say 'shutdown is owned by root'
[03:53] <HappyFool> vHintswen: you didn't notice any error messages during install?
[03:53] <Heimdall> HappyFool : are sure that this was the correct driver ?
[03:53] <vHintswen> no
[03:54] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I mean the driver works okay but....
[03:54] <chaitat> hi
[03:54] <HappyFool> Heimdall: no, i'm not. if scanModem said you have smart-link, i'd go with that
[03:54] <HappyFool> Heimdall: but it might be wrong, i don't know
[03:54] <chaitat> do someone use 'no-ip.info'?
[03:54] <Heimdall> oh ok, I'll run scanmodem
[03:54] <HappyFool> Heimdall: what is the driver called in windows? do you know?
[03:54] <Varanger> hondje: thanks!
[03:54] <hondje> Varanger: You're welcome
[03:54] <Heimdall> HappyFool : no but I'll look
[03:55] <HappyFool> vHintswen: if you can't even login this is going to be almost impossible to debug and fix
[03:55] <HappyFool> vHintswen: you can try booting in 'recovery mode'
[03:55] <HappyFool> vHintswen: and then maybe look at your log files to see if there are any errors: you can use the command 'less' to view files
[03:55] <vHintswen> commands don't work
[03:56] <nxv_> what user/pwd do i need for the cups webinterface?
[03:56] <HappyFool> vHintswen: log files are in directory /var/log
[03:56] <HappyFool> vHintswen: not even in recovery mode ?
[03:56] <HappyFool> vHintswen: you need to reboot to get to recovery mode -- it's not the same as Ctl-Alt-F1
[03:56] <vHintswen> how i get to recovery mode?
[03:56] <char1iecha1k> how do install my monitor correctly
[03:56] <HappyFool> vHintswen: you should *not* need to login for that
[03:56] <HappyFool> vHintswen: reboot. When prompted, press 'ESC' to view the grub boot menu
[03:56] <vHintswen> k i'll go try...
[03:57] <HappyFool> vHintswen: then select 'Ubuntu ... (recovery mode)' or something like that
[03:57] <HappyFool> vHintswen: look at /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages and /var/log/auth
[03:57] <HappyFool> vHintswen: also try 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to reconfigure X -- maybe you can fix the mouse problem
[03:57] <dabugas> hi
[03:58] <HappyFool> vHintswen: sorry, /var/log/auth.log
[03:58] <dabugas> i'm trying to mount an iso image (mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso) and i get the error "mount: could not find any device /dev/loop#"
[03:58] <HappyFool> vHintswen: and /var/log/Xorg.0.log for X-Window (i.e., graphical system) errors
[03:58] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I tried to open synaptic to install te emacs package, but it's telling me that my system has a broken package
[03:59] <dabugas> any ones what's up? what is /dev/loop, anyway?
[03:59] <HappyFool> dabugas: you're running hoary (ubuntu 5.04) right?
[03:59] <dabugas> Heimdall: "sudo apt-get install -f" often fixes this
[03:59] <dabugas> HappyFool: more or less ;) some warty stuff still in here
[04:00] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I check the emacs case, to install it, and finally it is tellng me that I'll have to install many packages with emacs
[04:00] <HappyFool> dabugas: /dev/loop? are loopback devices
[04:00] <Heimdall> AND
[04:00] <Heimdall> uninstall sl-modem-modules-2.6.10
[04:00] <Heimdall> !-|
[04:00] <ubotu> Heimdall: I give up, what is it?
[04:00] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hmm
[04:00] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i got something similar
[04:00] <Heimdall> pretty strange
[04:00] <trygvebw> Hi
[04:00] <HappyFool> Heimdall: there's something funny with the dependencies in that deb file
[04:01] <HappyFool> Heimdall: it's part of that whole 'Custom' thing I couldn't figure out
[04:01] <rodrigo> hello
[04:01] <rodrigo> help
[04:01] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I'm glad if you find this is funny ;)
[04:01] <Heimdall> yes
[04:01] <HappyFool> Heimdall: not at all
[04:01] <HappyFool> Heimdall: it's confusing
[04:01] <trygvebw> Is there a boot floppy for Ubuntu that allows you to install Ubuntu on PCs without boot-from-cd ability?
[04:01] <Heimdall> HappyFool : :-)
[04:01] <rodrigo> alguien me podria ayudar =?
[04:01] <trygvebw> rodrigo: ask :)
[04:01] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i installed these sl-modem drivers before, and didn't have these problems
[04:02] <HappyFool> dabugas: loopback devices are how files are made available for mounting (that's how i understand it, anyway)
[04:02] <HappyFool> dabugas: as far as i know, loopback functionality is built into the hoary kernels
[04:02] <HappyFool> dabugas: you're not running a custom kernel by any chance?
[04:02] <rodrigo> alguien habla espaol ?
[04:03] <HappyFool> rodrigo: try /join #ubuntu-es
[04:03] <Heimdall> HappyFool : well, I have done nothing on my linux for the moment, except finding the acpi pb... do you think that re-install ubuntu woudl change something ?
[04:03] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you mean fix anything? i doubt it
[04:03] <dabugas> HappyFool: nope. even if compiled in the kernel they should be in /dev, right?
[04:03] <Heimdall> reinstall,and do things properly
[04:03] <HappyFool> dabugas: yip, should be there
[04:03] <Heimdall> ok
[04:03] <vHintswen> i can't get into logs, cd /var then cd /log right?
[04:04] <vHintswen> cause when i try cd /log it say no directory
[04:04] <dabugas> HappyFool: well, it ain't :(
[04:04] <HappyFool> dabugas: hrm. i have a directory /dev/loop/, with one file '0'
[04:04] <Heimdall> so what can I answer ? it will uninstall the sl-modem package....
[04:04] <HappyFool> vHintswen: try 'cd log'
[04:04] <HappyFool> vHintswen: or 'cd /var/log'
[04:04] <norm_> i'm trying to get a live-cd running on my laptop, however it fails telling me something went wrong while running "Enter preinstalled session" - does anybody have hints on what to do?
[04:04] <Heimdall> sl-modem-modules-2.6.10
[04:04] <dabugas> HappyFool: maybe i should MAKEDEV it. what's in the 0 file?
[04:04] <HappyFool> dabugas: it's a device file
[04:05] <HappyFool> block device, major number 7, minor 0
[04:05] <ompaul> trygvebw, not that I am aware of, I have checked around some docs and I do not seem to find it - however that is not to say that it can't be done
[04:05] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i don't know
[04:05] <trygvebw> ompaul: hm, ok. Is there a network floppy?
[04:05] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I don't care after all... I do it :)
[04:05] <HappyFool> Heimdall: it isn't working anyway, so if you want emacs, you might as well uninstall it
[04:05] <vHintswen> ok cd log worked, what's the log filename?
[04:06] <HappyFool> vHintswen: try syslog, messages, auth.log, Xorg.0.log
[04:06] <HappyFool> vHintswen: like this: 'less syslog'
[04:06] <HappyFool> vHintswen: use Page Up / Page Down to scroll in less, and 'q' to quit
[04:06] <vHintswen> i'm just looking for errors?
[04:06] <HappyFool> vHintswen: pretty much
[04:07] <HappyFool> vHintswen: i appreciate that the logs are confusing, but it's better than nothing
[04:07] <Heimdall> well can you explain me what were the packages you made me instal yesterday, from the cd : build-essential, dpkg-dev, linux-headers and libasound (I didn't fin this one)
[04:08] <HappyFool> Heimdall: build-essential is gcc (C compiler), g++ (C++) and make (a build tool)
[04:08] <simone> Hi... I am still trying to get sound to work on my newly installed totem-xine player. I've been told to tell xine to use esd as the sound driver, but I have no idea how to do this. Can somebody please advise... (AVI movie plays, but no sound)
[04:08] <HappyFool> Heimdall: dpkg-dev i'm not sure of -- probably for building .deb files
[04:08] <Heimdall> HappyFool : you're telling me that gcc wasn't installed ?????
[04:09] <HappyFool> Heimdall: and finally linux-headers is the /usr/src/linux-headers-* directories -- includes configuration info for your current install
[04:09] <HappyFool> Heimdall: not by default. most people don't need gcc ;)
[04:09] <Heimdall> HappyFool :argh
[04:09] <HappyFool> Heimdall: believe it or not, ubuntu usually works without users needing to compile anything ;)
[04:09] <dabugas> ahahaha
[04:09] <Heimdall> HappyFool : my fisrt use of my computer is internet, my second is programmation !!
[04:09] <HappyFool> Heimdall: well, it is right there on the cd
[04:10] <Heimdall> yes
[04:10] <ompaul> trygvebw, not that I am aware of, and again that is not to say that it is not in existance
[04:10] <HappyFool> Heimdall: it's not like you can't easily get it ;)
[04:10] <trygvebw> ompaul: thanks :)
[04:10] <Heimdall> yes yes
[04:10] <Heimdall> HappyFool : and to update.. is it easy ?
[04:11] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yes, just use synaptic
[04:11] <Heimdall> i supppose there is some update application
[04:11] <ompaul> trygvebw, I have this mad idea
[04:11] <Heimdall> oh ok
[04:11] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you need to tell synaptic to look on the internet for updates, but that's about it
[04:11] <Heimdall> cool
[04:11] <HappyFool> Heimdall: every day or so just 'Reload' and 'Apply' in synaptic, and you'll be up to date
[04:11] <Heimdall> linux is easy ;)
[04:11] <HappyFool> when it works ;)
[04:11] <ompaul> has that machine got a reasonable amount of ram for today?
[04:11] <Heimdall> yes :)))
[04:12] <hondje> nice, k-line
[04:12] <ompaul> HappyFool, or only react when the little icon is red on the top panel
[04:12] <HappyFool> simone: does sound in other applications work?
[04:12] <hondje> two?
[04:12] <ompaul> trygvebw,  has that machine got a reasonable amount of ram for today?
[04:12] <HappyFool> simone: e.g., do you hear the startup ubuntu sound when you login?
[04:12] <Heimdall> HappyFool : oh.. yesterday your mount command was not corretct
[04:12] <simone> HappyFool ...yes
[04:12] <HappyFool> Heimdall: oh?
[04:12] <Heimdall> umask wasn't accepted
[04:13] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hmm. i tested it here on my fat16 memory stick, and it worked
[04:13] <trygvebw> ompaul: yes
[04:13] <Heimdall> I did : sudo mount -t vfat -o ro /dev/hda5 /media/share
[04:13] <simone> the default system sounds work
[04:13] <HappyFool> simone: i have normal xine, not totem-xine, but i can try to help
[04:13] <Heimdall> each time II typed umask it was not correct
[04:13] <simone> I'd be greatful
[04:13] <HappyFool> simone: is there a 'settings' menu, or maybe 'Edit -> Preferences', something like that ?
[04:14] <simone> under totem?
[04:14] <HappyFool> simone: yes
[04:14] <ompaul> trygvebw, consider this, two partitions (three would be better), what other operating system is on it at the moment?
[04:14] <HappyFool> simone: well, totem-xine
[04:14] <norm_> hm... i get an integrity error on my live cd - is this normal? :P
[04:14] <simone> Happy fool - there is Totem-Preferences
[04:14] <simone> Under Audio it only gives the Audio output type: Currently selected as Stereo
[04:15] <HappyFool> simone: hmm
[04:15] <trygvebw> ompaul: Slackware is on it atm.
[04:15] <Varanger> I am building a new kernel
[04:15] <ompaul> trygvebw, the question forms the basis of the answer - qemu and try to install from that?
[04:15] <Varanger> I did a "make xconfig" and I get a error that I need QT... what do I need from QT ?
[04:16] <hondje> When I set LD_ASSUME_KERNEL in a start-up script for an app, do I need to change it back, or does it stay only with that shell?
[04:16] <trygvebw> ompaul: ok
[04:16] <HappyFool> simone: sorry, i don't have totem-xine, and it looks like installing it will remove totem-gstreamer, and i don't want to do that
[04:16] <funto> hi
[04:17] <dabugas> HappyFool: i MAKEDEV loop devices and now i get brand new spanking error. shall i send it to you in priv? it's 4 lines long
[04:17] <vHintswen> ok i got 3 errors for fonts... shuld i say?
[04:17] <HappyFool> dabugas: sure
[04:17] <HappyFool> vHintswen: nah, they're not too important
[04:18] <Heimdall> HappyFool : sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda5 /media/share -o umask=222,ro works
[04:18] <vHintswen> well that's all i could find... in the Xorg file it didn't say mouse thow...
[04:18] <ciancib> hello
[04:18] <vHintswen> it said generic keyboard but that's it i think
[04:18] <vHintswen> (serial mouse)
[04:18] <ciancib> i installed phpmyadmin, how do i set a root password on it?
[04:18] <HappyFool> vHintswen: try running 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'  and make sure you choose mouse options correctly
[04:18] <simone> Happyfool - is there another programme that I can try to install that might run an avi movie?
[04:19] <mindspin> its the mysql pasword
[04:19] <HappyFool> simone: let me see in plain xine can play avis -- one moment
[04:19] <mindspin> you should change it immediately
[04:19] <ciancib> mindspin, what do u mean?
[04:19] <mindspin> phpmyadmin
[04:19] <ciancib> right
[04:19] <mindspin> takes the useraccounts of mysql as password
[04:19] <ciancib> ok
[04:20] <mindspin> its  root with no password in the beginning
[04:20] <ciancib> right that's what i have now, mindspin
[04:20] <ciancib> so how do i change that?
[04:20] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: simone xine or totem-xine can play .avi here with w32codecs installed
[04:20] <mindspin> open users and change the root password
[04:20] <vHintswen> .?
[04:20] <mindspin> create a user whatweveryouwant
[04:20] <thoreauputic> of course .avi is only a container for other codecs...
[04:21] <HappyFool> thoreauputic: you think maybe the sound is in some super-weird codec not in there? can we check somehow?
[04:21] <mindspin> and maybe restart mysql-server
[04:21] <ciancib> you mean go to http://localhost/phpmyadmin, mindspin??
[04:21] <mindspin> yep
[04:21] <ciancib> ...and change the password there?
[04:21] <mindspin> if its localhost
[04:21] <thoreauputic> I haven't followed the convo - but some newer codecs can cause problems
[04:21] <ciancib> ohkay
[04:21] <simone> hi thoreauptic ... I've really searched the whole ubuntu site and synaptic for w32codecs, but cannot seem to find them... where do I look for this?
[04:21] <HappyFool> ok, my super-dodgy airwolf divx avi plays in xine
[04:21] <mindspin> you can do it from mysqladmin and commandline
[04:22] <HappyFool> ah-ha
[04:22] <HappyFool> simone: you need to use backports for those, i think
[04:22] <Fabian> unknown command: ` export'     What package should I install???
[04:22] <HappyFool> simone: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats should tell you how
[04:22] <simone> ok... keep using such strange words with me and I'll think you are swearing :-)
[04:23] <HappyFool> simone: heh. it's a web address
[04:23] <Hunchback> damned amaroK, can't get it to work :/
[04:23] <Hunchback> i installed both Xine and GStreamer...
[04:23] <vHintswen> ..?
[04:24] <Fabian> anyone knows what package is needed to execute the command "export"???
[04:24] <vHintswen> i guess that's it
[04:24] <vHintswen> windows goes back on tomorow then...
[04:24] <thoreauputic> Hunchback: change the engine in the prefs and try again
[04:24] <dabugas> Fabian: your shell?
[04:24] <HappyFool> vHintswen: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't help?
[04:24] <thoreauputic> Hunchback: did you install amarok-xine and amarok-gstreamer ?
[04:25] <OverK> hi all
[04:25] <Fabian> dabugas, sorry, what?
[04:25] <vHintswen> o.o i gotta b back in root directory?
[04:25] <dabugas> Fabian: open a terminal and type "export" your shell should provide it
[04:25] <HappyFool> simone: hmm, sorry, that page doesn't mention w32codecs
[04:25] <hondje> you know what'd be cool? If windows came with an ssh client in the dos prompt
[04:25] <mindspin> export is executed in the shell probably your syntax or path is wrong, not the pacjage
[04:25] <hondje> it has telnet, why not ssh? :-/
[04:25] <OverK> i've just first installed Ubuntu 5.04 and i dont know what is the root passwd... sudo also is asking for that passwd
[04:25] <HappyFool> simone: try ubuntuguide.org
[04:25] <HappyFool> hondje: doesn't putty have a command-line thing?
[04:25] <Fabian> uhmmmm..... strange
[04:26] <hondje> HappyFool: I dunno, good question
[04:26] <thoreauputic> OverK: no it wants your user password
[04:26] <thoreauputic> !rootsudo
[04:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:26] <HappyFool> hondje: it has scp and err sftp i think
[04:26] <vHintswen> i gotta b back in root dir. hapy?
[04:26] <hondje> HappyFool: windows, or putty?
[04:26] <thoreauputic> OverK: see ubotu's factoid
[04:26] <HappyFool> vHintswen: no, you can run it from wherever
[04:26] <HappyFool> hondje: putty
[04:26] <vHintswen> k brb
[04:26] <hondje> oh, right
[04:26] <HappyFool> hondje: which is a windows ssh client
[04:26] <dabugas> Fabian: nothing is strange. some of the very rudimentary commands are provided by the shell itself. i generally use bash and it gives me export. i don't know about other shells.
[04:26] <OverK> thoreauputic, where? could u gimme the url?
[04:27] <hondje> HappyFool: Yeah, I've used that one, pretty decent
[04:27] <thoreauputic> OverK: I just did - see ubotu above
[04:27] <thoreauputic> ubotu rumour has it, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:27] <ubotu> thoreauputic: what are you talking about?
[04:27] <HappyFool> hondje: also try cygwin, i use it to get an xterm on my windows box ;)
[04:27] <thoreauputic> heh
[04:27] <hondje> HappyFool: If you want some amusing reading, I have a good thread by a newbie very upset that he couldn't install putty in mandrake, even after people posted rpms and step-by-step instructions
[04:27] <Fabian> dabugas, trying to do the following: cvs -z 3 -d \ :pserver:anoncvs@sources.redhat.com:/cvs/glibc \ export -d glibc-2.3.4-20040701 \ -D "2004-07-01 17:30 UTC" libc
[04:27] <chad> anyone had problems w/ X not coming back up after close/open of a their laptop lid?
[04:27] <mindspin> hondje or winscp
[04:27] <thoreauputic> OverK: ubotu is a bot
[04:27] <hondje> HappyFool: I don't use windows enough to get benefit
[04:27] <simone> HappyFool and Threaputic: Thank you I will do some reading, and hopefully I don't have to come back to bother your.
[04:27] <hondje> maybe 20 mins a month, dont' even have it at home
[04:27] <HappyFool> hondje: what, was he trying to install the windows version? ;)
[04:28] <Lyesainer> grr
[04:28] <Fabian> dabugas, bash 3???
[04:28] <Lyesainer> what did i(hunchback) last say?
[04:28] <mindspin> I always use winscp to move files from windows too unix machines
[04:28] <thoreauputic> simone: no bother - that's what the channel is for :)
[04:28] <hondje> HappyFool: he was bound and determined to build it from source, and didn't grok 'you need gcc, nub'
[04:28] <OverK> thoreauputic, how do i use it?
[04:28] <dabugas> Fabian: i am cvs clueless. i can't help you there.
[04:28] <HappyFool> hondje: hrm
[04:28] <HappyFool> hodgman: could be tricky
[04:28] <thoreauputic> OverK: just go to that URL and read the info
[04:28] <hondje> http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/xlivecd/xlivecd-20041201.iso  <---- awesomeness
[04:29] <hondje> That there xlivecd is great for you poor windows-using souls
[04:29] <thoreauputic> OverK: >>  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:29] <hondje> burn, mount, click, and voila! xserver, cygwin, etc
[04:29] <Fabian> dabugas, how do I know which shell I'm using? there's not much joice in ubuntu, is there?
[04:29] <HappyFool> dabugas has left
[04:29] <HappyFool> try bash --version
[04:29] <mindspin> the windows machines I use are never mine ;-)
[04:29] <Lyesainer> k i will repeat my question cause i lost link etc: i can't get amaroK to play anything, i've downloaded both Xine + libraries and all the GStreamer plugins/libraries etc
[04:29] <vHintswen> for that dkpg thing how i know which things to choose?
[04:29] <Lyesainer> still, amarok find's just some aRts engine, which doesn't work
[04:30] <thoreauputic> OverK: sudo <yourcommand here>     (it wants your user password)
[04:30] <hondje> mindspin: I use one at school sometimes for printing (such nice printers hehe), and once in awhile at work to look at something for someone
[04:30] <HappyFool> vHintswen: you'll need to know your hardware settings
[04:30] <vHintswen> dam
[04:30] <HappyFool> vHintswen: i can't remember if there are 'safe' defaults
[04:30] <vHintswen> how can i check lol
[04:30] <hondje> Lyesainer: do you have kde stuff installed?
[04:30] <mindspin> my wife stucks to win2k
[04:30] <HappyFool> vHintswen: umm
[04:30] <Lyesainer> well i used apt-get amarok to get it, so it downlaoded like 30mb of kde stuff
[04:30] <HappyFool> vHintswen: just a sec
[04:30] <hondje> mindspin: I got mine off windows about 4 years ago, and after fighting her to use synaptic and debian (cedega got her over, but she didn't like the work), I got her a mac
[04:31] <thoreauputic> Lyesainer: amarok-xine and/or amarok-gstreamer (install these and the engines should show when you restart amarok)
[04:31] <Lyesainer> the player loads itself nicelly, just doesn't find an engine to play the music with
[04:31] <hondje> I figure, better Jobs than Gates
[04:31] <Lyesainer> oh, ok thanks i will try
[04:31] <thoreauputic> Lyesainer: in the preferences
[04:31] <Lyesainer> yeah *nod*
[04:31] <Lyesainer> :)
[04:31] <hondje> gstreamer0.8-artsd <---hehehe, what would you need THAT for?
[04:31] <mindspin> For I'm responsible for security here, the thins she hasn't to care ;-)
[04:31] <mindspin> she thinks
[04:31] <Fabian> how can i use bash-shell in ubuntu????
[04:32] <hondje> Fabian: open a terminal
[04:32] <mindspin> start terminal
[04:32] <ompaul> Fabian, cat /etc/shells and bash --version tells you all you want to know about bash versions :) but then I think I might be misunderstanding
[04:32] <hondje> voila, bash shell
[04:32] <HappyFool> vHintswen: you can *try* using xorgconfig -- it might be able to tell you your video settings
[04:32] <Lyesainer> hondje: apparently the amaroK finds that artsd thing
[04:32] <mindspin> Fabian still lfs ?
[04:32] <hondje> Lyesainer: artsd is the sound daemon for KDE, like esd for gnome
[04:32] <vHintswen> ok
[04:32] <Fabian> mindspin, yep.....
[04:32] <Lyesainer> hm
[04:32] <Lyesainer> why is WINE in universe packages?
[04:32] <thoreauputic> Lyesainer: when you install what I told you, you can choose another engine
[04:33] <OverK> thx
[04:33] <Lyesainer> thoreauputic: yeah, have to finish downloading wine first
[04:33] <HappyFool> vHintswen: you'll have to quite dpkg-reconfigure though
[04:33] <HappyFool> vHintswen: try Ctrl-C or Ctl-Z
[04:33] <pgavin> so, I just reinstalled ubuntu, and I had guile-gnome installed before... but now its now apt-get says its not available
[04:33] <mindspin> fabian how can you say you're kinda experienced while not knowing how to open shell?
[04:34] <Fabian> hondje, but then my shell should know the command "export". It doesn't though
[04:34] <pgavin> but I found the source package at http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/
[04:34] <mindspin> I would call it hybris
[04:34] <LinuxJones> Lyesainer, because it's a non-supported program
[04:34] <HappyFool> pgavin: you need to enable universe
[04:34] <thoreauputic> Fabian: peter@prospero:~$ type export
[04:34] <thoreauputic> export is a shell builtin
[04:34] <pgavin> i'm pretty sure I did
[04:34] <HappyFool> pgavin: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the lines related to main, restricted and universe (and maybe multiverse too)
[04:34] <Fabian> mindspin, I do know how to open a shell. I just don't know how to make shure it is a bash-shell
[04:34] <thoreauputic> Fabian: so it's impossible you don't have it
[04:35] <hondje> Fabian: it is
[04:35] <HappyFool> pgavin: hmm
[04:35] <pgavin> maybe its in multiverse
[04:35] <HappyFool> pgavin: don't for 'sudo apt-get update'
[04:35] <hondje> If it wasn't bash, you'd know
[04:35] <pgavin> lemme check
[04:35] <HappyFool> pgavin: i doubt it -- it's free software, right?
[04:35] <thoreauputic> Fabian: echo $SHELL
[04:35] <pgavin> i have main restricted universe and multiverse
[04:35] <Fabian> thoreauputic, bash then....
[04:35] <xinud> llo
[04:35] <Fabian> so why is this not working then? cvs -z 3 -d \ :pserver:anoncvs@sources.redhat.com:/cvs/glibc \ export -d glibc-2.3.4-20040701 \ -D "2004-07-01 17:30 UTC" libc
[04:36] <thoreauputic> Fabian: what a surprise ;)
[04:36] <xinud> how can i change de login splash screen kubuntu
[04:36] <mindspin> export is executed in the shell probably your syntax or path is wrong, not the package
[04:36] <HappyFool> pgavin: hmm, i don't see guile-gnome
[04:36] <HappyFool> pgavin: is it maybe a warty or breezy package?
[04:36] <hondje> if I have LD_ASSUME_KERNEL in a startup script for an app, does that become the value for the user in all shells/cases until I revert it, or just in the shell I set it in ?
[04:36] <thr1ce> i have never heard of guile gnome
[04:36] <pgavin> its the guile bindings for gnome
[04:36] <thoreauputic> Fabian: why would you assume the shell is broken without debugging your command first?
[04:37] <mindspin> I would call it hybris
[04:37] <HappyFool> pgavin: maybe source and binary packages are named differently?
[04:37] <pgavin> plus i have backports in my sources.list
[04:37] <pgavin> if i do apt-cache search guile it doesn't show up in there
[04:37] <HappyFool> packages.ubuntu.com reveals 0 guile-gnome
[04:37] <pgavin> I know i had it installed before...
[04:38] <mindspin> Fabian you know, the bug is mostly between screen and keyboard?
[04:38] <pgavin> but there's definitely a package in http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/
[04:38] <theine> hondje, you can easily check that by typing env in another shell
[04:38] <Fabian> mindspin, yep, i do know that!
[04:38] <hondje> theine: oh, yes.....thanks :D
[04:38] <mindspin> so check your syntax
[04:38] <hondje> Fabian: export CFLAGS="borkage" && echo $CFLAGS
[04:38] <Fabian> thoreauputic, how can I debug that command?
[04:38] <Hunch|Back> nice, that amaroK player is really neat
[04:38] <hondje> That'll show you export is just fine
[04:38] <HappyFool> pgavin: hmm
[04:39] <HappyFool> pgavin: as you said, source
[04:39] <hondje> then build something and watch gcc gag
[04:39] <HappyFool> maybe you need to enable deb-src, and use 'apt-get source' ?
[04:39] <pgavin> but I've never built a source package :b
[04:39] <theine> pgavin, what package are you looking for?
[04:40] <hondje> theine: thanks man, totally forgot that was even doable
[04:40] <pgavin> guile-gnome (and g-wrap, actually)
[04:40] <theine> hondje, you're welcome
[04:40] <thoreauputic> Fabian: it has a number of newlines - rewrite it as a script and run it in debug mode
[04:40] <Fabian> hondje, that works
[04:40] <hondje> Fabian: Then export works fine :)
[04:40] <vHintswen> it didn't tell me my vedio settings
[04:41] <HappyFool> vHintswen: what did it do?
[04:41] <theine> pgavin, g-wrap is the name of an executable?
[04:41] <vHintswen> asked me a load of stuf about my computer
[04:41] <pgavin> theine, no, its a library for guile
[04:41] <vHintswen> what kind of keyboard, mouse, vedio card, monitor resolution etc.
[04:41] <HappyFool> vHintswen: it didn't probe for those?
[04:41] <HappyFool> vHintswen: hrm
[04:42] <Fabian> thoreauputic, can I execute these commands one by one?
[04:42] <theine> pgavin, g-wrap and guile-g-wrap are only available in breezy
[04:42] <thoreauputic> Fabian: sure
[04:42] <pgavin> so, anyhow, if I've downloaded the .dsc, .orig.tar.gz, and .diff.gz for the package, can I just use dpkg-source and dpkg-buildpackage to build it?
[04:42] <thoreauputic> a line at a time
[04:43] <pgavin> theine, heh, that's why then
[04:43] <theine> pgavin, sorry for the old news...
[04:43] <pgavin> maybe I should ask for a backport :b
[04:43] <thoreauputic> Fabian: a bash script is just a series of commands, at its simplest
[04:44] <vHintswen> omg i'm so stupid
[04:44] <hondje> pgavin: sudo fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot is useful :)
[04:44] <Mez> pgavin, what you wnat a backport of?
[04:45] <pgavin> Mez, guile-gnome-platform and g-wrap
[04:46] <vHintswen> o.o
[04:46] <Mez> pgavin - 1st one not in breezy
[04:46] <pgavin> mez, check out http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/
[04:46] <Heimdall> HappyFool : did you try to decompress the scanmodem file ? :-[
[04:46] <Mez> and second one - I'd not be comfortable porting until it's more stable
[04:46] <Fabian> thoreauputic, I can't execute these commands one by one somehow....
[04:46] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i'll try the latest version.. why, you having problems?
[04:47] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I mean this one : http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/scanModem.gz
[04:47] <Hunchback> is there other emulator for win pps except wine?
[04:47] <pgavin> Mez, i've been using them for a while, and they seem stable enough to me
[04:47] <vHintswen> omg
[04:47] <pgavin> Mez, more stable than the nvidia drivers in any case :b
[04:47] <Heimdall> 'gz' it means gzip no ?
[04:47] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yip
[04:47] <thoreauputic> Fabian: where did you get the command? and note that you execute a lin at a time rather than a command at a time...
[04:47] <HappyFool> Heimdall: use gunzip to decompress it
[04:47] <thoreauputic> *line
[04:47] <hondje> Hunchback: what's pps?
[04:47] <Hunchback> apps*
[04:48] <Mez> pgavin - why dont you check out http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/g/guile-gnome-platform/2.7.99-2/
[04:48] <Heimdall> so ... it's telling me 'not a gzip format'
[04:48] <HappyFool> Heimdall: just downloaded and gunzipped it -- seems to be OK
[04:48] <thoreauputic> Fabian: the \ symbols are new lines (line endings)
[04:48] <vHintswen> omg
[04:48] <vHintswen> shuld i just give up on linux?
[04:48] <HappyFool> Heimdall: try 'file scanModem.gz' -- maybe your browser decompressed it
[04:48] <hondje> Hunchback: just wine-based commercial packages
[04:48] <hondje> cedega for games, codeweavers for MS Office
[04:48] <Heimdall> gzip -d file
[04:48] <Hunchback> k, thanks
[04:48] <Heimdall> permission denied
[04:48] <Heimdall> :/
[04:48] <HappyFool> Heimdall: erk
[04:48] <hondje> Hunchback: oh, and qemu
[04:48] <Fabian> thoreauputic, I got it from LFS book 6.0. Their support channel is not very friendly though.... I tried to execute line by line
[04:48] <HappyFool> Heimdall: put it in your home directory
[04:49] <Heimdall> HappyFool : gods are against me
[04:49] <Mez> vHintswen, if you're just going to say 2omg" or make funny faces, adn say you're stuoid, and not ask for help, then maybe linux isnt for you
[04:49] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ls -l scanModem.gz ?
[04:49] <Heimdall> HappyFool : it is already in my home
[04:49] <thoreauputic> Fabian: \ can also be escape characters - but lfs is kind of off-topic here
[04:49] <HappyFool> Heimdall: how did you get it onto your laptop?
[04:49] <vHintswen> lol i said omg i'm so stupid cause i thought of how to check my vid card
[04:49] <HappyFool> Heimdall: maybe it belongs to root still
[04:49] <vHintswen> but i was wrong :(
[04:49] <thoreauputic> Fabian: maybe try their mailing list?
[04:49] <HappyFool> Heimdall: sudo chown heimdall scanModem.gz   to change ownership
[04:50] <vHintswen> and what u mean not ask for help?
[04:50] <vHintswen> i been asking for help for ages
[04:50] <vHintswen> no1 been able to help me
[04:50] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I dowloaded it from another computer, then brought it on a floppy to my fat32 partition under win, and then cp it in my home directory under linux
[04:50] <reka> anyone use gparted or qtparted?  i'd like to create a new partition on my HDD and found out i can't do this when the drive is "active".  so how do i go about it?  i tried booting from a warty live cd (i'm running hoary tho,) and it couldn't/wouldn't let me run /usr/bin/gparted which is installed on my linux partition.
[04:50] <theine> vHintswen, what's your problem?
[04:50] <vHintswen> omg now i gotta start from start again
[04:50] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ls -l scanModem.gz to see who owns the file
[04:50] <Fabian> thoreauputic, I know it's kind of offtopic. But here I'm being helped.... :(
[04:51] <hondje> reka: I've played with gparted
[04:51] <vHintswen> mouse doesn't work and commands don't work
[04:51] <hondje> reka: you cannot resize partitions that are mounted
[04:51] <Heimdall> HappyFool : lol, too strange, I have no rights on this file ...
[04:51] <theine> vHintswen, what kind of mouse, what commands?
[04:51] <fkemal> hello everybody
[04:51] <HappyFool> Heimdall: sudo chown heimdall scanModem.gz    to change ownership
[04:51] <reka> hondje: yep, i was told that, but am not sure how i would go about it then.
[04:51] <Heimdall> HappyFool : -------r-x
[04:51] <pgavin> Mez, I can build both the source packages for g-wrap and guile-gnome-platform on my hoary box w/o modification
[04:51] <vHintswen> what u mean what kind of mouse? and all commands unless it's in recovery mode
[04:52] <HappyFool> Heimdall: then chmod 660 scanModem.gz to give yourself read/write permission
[04:52] <hondje> reka: are you trying to mess with your primary harddrive?
[04:52] <Heimdall> yes
[04:52] <theine> vHintswen, serial mouse, usb mouse, ps2 mouse,...
[04:52] <thoreauputic> reka: you would need to run it from a CD or another mounted system - the file system you are trying to resize must not be mounted - maybe try knoppix if you have it - it has qtparted I think
[04:52] <reka> hondje: yes.  only one hdd in the box, with ubuntu and windows in dualboot
[04:52] <vHintswen> serial mouse
[04:53] <hondje> reka: either you'd have to use a livecd, or remount /dev/hda as read-only, and hope you didn't mess it up :)
[04:53] <hondje> I'd recommend the livecd WAY over the other routes :)
[04:53] <nalioth> reka ya gotta boot from other media
[04:53] <Heimdall> HappyFool : gzip -d scanModem.gz : 'not a gzip format :////
[04:53] <HappyFool> Heimdall: 'file scanModem.gz'
[04:53] <hondje> if the ubuntu livecd doesn't have gparted, you can try command line, or use knoppix
[04:53] <reka> thoreauputic: hmm, i have an outdated knoppix cd - no qtparted on it.i do have a warty cd like i said.
[04:53] <hondje> morning, nalioth
[04:54] <HappyFool> Heimdall: that will tell you what sort of file it (probably) is
[04:54] <theine> vHintswen, go into recovery mode, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and specify /dev/ttyS0 as the input device for your mouse
[04:54] <HappyFool> Heimdall: it's possible your browser already decompressed it
[04:54] <HappyFool> Heimdall: how big is the file ?
[04:54] <nalioth> reka: knoppix'd be your best bet (i know  nothin of what comes on the ubuntu livecd)
[04:54] <hondje> reka: You know what's fun, for future reference? Always keep /home on its own partition
[04:54] <vHintswen> i'm a newbie to linux lol i dunno how to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:54] <HappyFool> Heimdall: uncompressed it should be 189906 bytes
[04:54] <reka> hondje: yes, i have gparted installed on my hoary partition, and it was automounted when i booted from the livecd, but when i tried to run it ... it wasn't there.
[04:54] <hondje> Then you can totally screw everything up, and have everything safe that matters
[04:54] <nalioth> hondje: reka: and the rest of you scoundrels, Good Morning
[04:54] <Heimdall> HappyFool : yes youre right
[04:54] <quidoff> how do I make a link in Applications?
[04:54] <ivanox> anyone in here using winetools?
[04:55] <thoreauputic> reka: Ubuntu live CD may have parted, but not gparted or qtparted : parted is the CLI backend
[04:55] <Heimdall> 189906
[04:55] <hondje> reka: you can try chrooting to the drive, but I dunno if you can do that in ro
[04:55] <theine> vHintswen, or first, when in recovery mode, do "sudo cat /dev/ttyS0", move your mouse for a while and check whether you get any ouput
[04:55] <hondje> parted isn't too bad, even for CLI
[04:55] <HappyFool> Heimdall: 'mv scanModem.gz scanModem; chmod a+rx scanModem; sudo ./scanModem'
[04:55] <hondje> if you're ballsy enough to mess with it, you can use the cli version just fine I'd wager
[04:55] <Heimdall> HappyFool : file tells me : Bourne-Again shell script text executable
[04:55] <theine> vHintswen, of course, the easiest solution would be to connect a ps2 mouse to your box...
[04:55] <vHintswen> k brb
[04:55] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok, it should work
[04:56] <vHintswen> can't no second ps2 thing
[04:56] <lpk> What's the easiest way to change to ISO-8859-15?
[04:56] <Heimdall> HappyFool : hihi this is .. pfffiou :)
[04:56] <kbrooks> poke
[04:56] <Heimdall> hopefully you're here
[04:56] <reka> thoreauputic: i'd like a gui though ... so i take it the livecd won't let me run certain executables on my hoary partition?
[04:56] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yes?
[04:56] <HappyFool> Heimdall: oh, the script output
[04:56] <HappyFool> yes, it's ugly
[04:56] <reka> morning nalioth
[04:56] <theine> vHintswen, but you have 1 ps2 mouse?
[04:56] <hondje> hrm, serial mouse died :( Do they still sell those?
[04:56] <theine> vHintswen, ...connected to another pc?
[04:57] <HappyFool> Heimdall: try to read through it and see if you can find what kind of modem it thinks you have
[04:57] <Heimdall> yes
[04:57] <reka> hondje: you can get one of those usb->serial converter thingies.
[04:57] <HappyFool> Heimdall: it should have created directory, called maybe 'Modem' or something like that, with informational files in
[04:57] <Heimdall> I'll do better than that
[04:57] <hondje> reka: oh, cool...think radioshack sells 'em?
[04:57] <Heimdall> yes
[04:57] <hondje> oh, you're .au, probably wouldn't know :)
[04:57] <reka> hondje: dunno ... i got it with my mouse :-)
[04:57] <nalioth> hondje: or frys, or best buy (whre in the world are you?)
[04:57] <LDM> Does anyone have any good documentation about setting up a SATA RAID 1 for data storage (not boot)?
[04:58] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you finding any useful info, or not?
[04:58] <Heimdall> can I make a tar of this directory ?
[04:58] <hondje> nalioth: colorado, only circuit city around here, and it's terrible selection
[04:58] <erb> hi
[04:58] <nalioth> Heimdall: you can tar any directory
[04:58] <reka> hondje: actually, i think we do have radioshack .. i think it's called tandy though
[04:58] <hondje> well, office depot and office max, office max even sold RH boxsets until they went to RHEL-only
[04:58] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yip. tar czf Modem.tar.gz Modem/
[04:58] <nalioth> hondje: then i guess you're stuck with the 'shack
[04:58] <hondje> reka: ah yes, same gig, or at least once was :)
[04:58] <Hoxzer^^> Does bittornado support super seed mode?
[04:58] <hondje> radioshack sucks now, too
[04:58] <nalioth> reka: yes, that is the name they use in .au
[04:59] <vHintswen> input/output error
[04:59] <hondje> But radioshack in .ca isn't radioshack....odd world
[04:59] <nalioth> Hoxzer^^: i believe the GUI has that checkbox, yes
[04:59] <theine> vHintswen, when do you get that?
[04:59] <vHintswen> yeah i got a ps2 mouse... on this computer
[04:59] <vHintswen> when i typed in sudo cat /dev/ttys0
[04:59] <theine> vHintswen, temporarily remove that, plug it into your Ubuntu box, reboot and see whether that solves your problem
[04:59] <vHintswen> and everyone's sleeping so i dunno if i shuld keep going back and forth
[05:00] <hondje> oh kick ass, froogle found an optical wireless serial mouse :D
[05:00] <vHintswen> if it does solve my problem?
[05:00] <theine> vHintswen, ok, maybe it's "sudo cat /dev/ttyS1"
[05:00] <theine> vHintswen, yes
[05:00] <hondje> oh, 'universal' serial mouse :(
[05:00] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I'll show you
[05:00] <quidoff> how do I make a shurtcut to a program in this Applications-Menu. I mean in Gnome. I have to Ubuntu not KDE
[05:00] <HappyFool> Heimdall: not in channel ;)
[05:00] <vHintswen> yes??!
[05:00] <Heimdall> HappyFool : of course not :)
[05:01] <HappyFool> Heimdall: put it up here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:01] <Heimdall> HappyFool : do u think I'm such a newbie ?? :)
[05:01] <hondje> might be easier to buy a new mobo w/ working ps2 ports....
[05:01] <fkemal> i have just installed ubuntu... i cant use my tv card and audio card... does anybody know why ??
[05:01] <HappyFool> aargh. why can't X have just one cut-and-paste clipboard
[05:01] <HappyFool> Heimdall: heh
[05:01] <Heimdall> HappyFool : no no don't worry I have a webspace, you'll see
[05:01] <LinuxJones> quidoff, try searching the ubuntu site for menu-editor there are a few that are available
[05:01] <theine> vHintswen, check whether Ubuntu works if you use an ps2 mouse on the Ubuntu box
[05:01] <HappyFool> Heimdall: just in case ;)
[05:01] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok
[05:01] <hondje> HappyFool: LEGACY!
[05:01] <Heimdall> yeaah ;)
[05:01] <hondje> Too bad we can't do the Apple and stop following standards :)
[05:01] <quidoff> thx
[05:01] <vHintswen> can't esactly do that right now :(
[05:02] <nalioth> quidoff: see the ubuntulinux.org/wiki/   re gnome menu editors
[05:02] <vHintswen> 2 loud lol
[05:02] <hondje> then again, if we did that I'd have to take the X.org stickers off my case
[05:02] <vHintswen> just tell me, if it works then what?
[05:02] <vHintswen> and if it doesn't...
[05:02] <vHintswen> which it won't...
[05:02] <nalioth> hondje: weren't you badmouthing apple earlier?
[05:02] <theine> vHintswen, what makes you think it won't work?
[05:03] <hondje> nalioth: That's just my gig, I tend to like their stuff
[05:03] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I have no problem with computing in general, but with linux.... I don't know why... I think my laptop does not help
[05:03] <vHintswen> well i'm verry un-lucky lol
[05:03] <hondje> except the hardware in that damn mini-mac
[05:03] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yip
[05:03] <vHintswen> if it does work... what about keyboard? lol
[05:03] <TokenBad> hondje, I found where it talks about pure-ftp so that it tries to start
[05:03] <nalioth> hondje: ?!?
[05:03] <TokenBad> or load
[05:03] <fkemal> i have just installed ubuntu... i cant use my tv card and audio card... does anybody know why ??
[05:03] <fkemal> i have just installed ubuntu... i cant use my tv card and audio card... does anybody know why ??
[05:03] <ivanox> cuz u spam
[05:03] <hondje> nalioth: gotta take it back to the shop, CPU is hosed
[05:03] <theine> vHintswen, if it does (which it most likely will), you can either buy a second ps2 mouse (cheap) or replace one line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:03] <TokenBad> but now to know how to remove it or what to replace it with
[05:03] <hondje> I assume it is, from being on a borked logic board that was causing it to overheat so bad
[05:04] <nalioth> fkemal: in anyone knows the answer to your vague question, they will answer you
[05:04] <Heimdall> HappyFool : you know, I've made worst... tried to install a slackware 9.0 on my P2 200Mhz :)
[05:04] <vHintswen> i've got no second ps2 slot thing on computer thow
[05:04] <nalioth> fkemal: give it a few minutes tween askin the same question
[05:04] <Heimdall> 2 years ago
[05:04] <Heimdall> I was mad at the end
[05:04] <hondje> TokenBad: ftpd can be a PITA, but probably good...at least when you got it running, it'll be more secure than a magical install would make it
[05:04] <vHintswen> what's this line to change?
[05:04] <LDM> fkemal: Could you tell us which sound card you have & which TV Card you have?
[05:04] <HappyFool> Heimdall: heh
[05:04] <vHintswen> and how to change it
[05:04] <theine> vHintswen, why would you need a _second_ ps2 slot?
[05:04] <jbroome> LDM: naa, it's much more fun is we guess. ;)
[05:04] <vHintswen> 1 for mouse 1 for keyboard?
[05:04] <nalioth> hondje: you didnt replace the top cover with a 6" fan?
[05:04] <fkemal> tv card happuge...  sound cmedia
[05:05] <theine> vHintswen, ah, I see
[05:05] <TokenBad> hondje, this is in my inetd.conf: ftp     stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd-wrapper
[05:05] <LDM> jbroome: lol...
[05:05] <TokenBad> which is where it gets the pure ftp shit from
[05:05] <TokenBad> but I want to use proftpd  now
[05:05] <hondje> nalioth: no, usually runs cool, in theory...the logic board was bad, and I think it caused the CPU to go bad too, now it hangs and crashes randomly
[05:05] <theine> vHintswen, have you checked whether "sudo cat /dev/ttyS1" gives you any output when you move your mouse for a while?
[05:05] <hondje> nalioth: but god bless apple's top-notch warrenty guys
[05:05] <nalioth> hondje: i will NEVER buy another mac w/o the APP
[05:05] <hondje> TokenBad: then just replace that /usr/sbin/pure-blahblahblah line
[05:05] <HappyFool> Heimdall: if you want me to take a look at the output of scanModem, i'll be back in about 30 min
[05:06] <jeroen_> When installing Ubuntu I told the installer that the clock in my BIOS was set to local time. What do I do to change it to GMT?
[05:06] <hondje> nalioth: I wish I did for my last powermac
[05:06] <vHintswen> no, can't anymore cause everyone's sleeping... just tell me what to do and i do in morning hopefully something works
[05:06] <hondje> $3000 on the thing, and a week after the warranty died so did it
[05:06] <nalioth> hondje: we all have to learn somwhere
[05:06] <LinuxJones> jeroen_, did the install go ok ?
[05:06] <Heimdall> HappyFool : ok no pb, I give you the link now : you do what you want when you want :http://nico.aunai.free.fr/tmp/Modem.tar
[05:06] <theine> vHintswen, first you need to identify the corepointer (mouse) device, if "sudo cat /dev/ttyS1" gives you any output, then that's your corepointer device
[05:07] <hondje> nalioth: You wouldn't happen to know how a high-end PPC based computer crunches integers vs a high-end x86-based computer?
[05:07] <luketi> hello somebody speak spanish?
[05:07] <LDM> fkermal: did you make sure your sound wasn't muted?  It's a common problem.
[05:07] <Fanskapet> hmm bad bad
[05:07] <LinuxJones> luketi, you can try #ubuntu-es
[05:07] <hondje> luketi: en #ubuntu-es hablan espanol
[05:07] <Fanskapet> my hardware 3D support is broken in ubuntu
[05:07] <thoreauputic> fkemal: what does `lspci | grep audio ` return in a shell ?
[05:07] <luketi> ok thanks
[05:07] <Fanskapet> real bad since i don't know what has happened :/
[05:08] <hondje> Fanskapet: what kind of gfx card?
[05:08] <Fanskapet> hondje ATI Mobility 9700
[05:08] <Fanskapet> have worked before
[05:08] <samuel> sup all
[05:08] <Fanskapet> now im only able to use software OGL
[05:08] <theine> vHintswen, then do "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" which will open an editor, look for "/dev/input/mice" and replace it with "/dev/ttyS1"
[05:08] <theine> vHintswen, also, replace "ImPS/2" with "auto"
[05:08] <gigamonkey> Anyone know about the error message in kern.log "hdc: lost interrupt"
[05:09] <vHintswen> that's if 'sudo cat /dev/ttyls1' works right?
[05:09] <gigamonkey> followed by "hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01)
[05:09] <theine> vHintswen, right
[05:09] <vHintswen> k
[05:09] <vHintswen> and if it doesn't?
[05:09] <LDM> Anyone know how to set up a SW RAID 1 with 2 new SATA disks?
[05:09] <hondje> Fanskapet: what does 'glxinfo | grep server' say?
[05:09] <samuel> im trying to edit the Desktop->Preferences menu but i dont know how, ive read of the menu editor SMEG but that only seems to do the Apps menu, any way i can edit the prefs menu? by hand?
[05:09] <theine> vHintswen, come back and ask for more help...
[05:10] <Fanskapet> hondje im not in linux at the moment
[05:10] <vHintswen> k brb... might as well try now
[05:10] <jeroen_> LinuxJones instll went ok
[05:10] <fkemal> LDM... its is not muted.. what now ?
[05:10] <hondje> Fanskapet: oh, okay
[05:10] <Fanskapet> bus glxinfo tells me that MESA is activated
[05:10] <hondje> Fanskapet: okay, good info that
[05:11] <gigamonkey> I'm running the 2.6.10-5-686-smp kernel.
[05:11] <gigamonkey> For whatever that's worth.
[05:11] <LinuxJones> jeroen_, ok right click the date/time on the gnome panel and select adjust date & time
[05:11] <jeroen_> LinuxJones, yes
[05:11] <LinuxJones> jeroen_, then enter your users password
[05:12] <LDM> fkermal: someone who probably knows more thanl me asked you to do an 'lspci' above... scroll up and look for your name.
[05:12] <Fanskapet> but even :)
[05:12] <Fanskapet> maybe i'l try installing the original package from ati and not the apt-get one.
[05:12] <Fanskapet> once again
[05:12] <Fanskapet> :)
[05:12] <Fanskapet> the strange thing is that i had it working before..
[05:12] <thoreauputic> fkemal: does `lspci | grep snd ` contain the driver " snd_cmipci " ?
[05:12] <hondje> gigamonkey: that's an oddball kernel thing, googling doesn't help much either :-/
[05:12] <luketi> sorry, how entry to ubuntu es?
[05:12] <LinuxJones> luketi, /join #ubuntu-es
[05:12] <hondje> Fanskapet: any updates lately that might have borked it, like to X, Gnome, or the Kernel?
[05:12] <gigamonkey> hondje: I know (about Google not helping much).
[05:12] <reka> Fanskapet: that process is more complicated
[05:12] <fkemal> i really dont know what that is.. where should i look.. tell me pls
[05:12] <jeroen_> LinuxJones, not necessary, I have had Synaptic opened just a minute ago ;)
[05:12] <luketi> thank linujones
[05:12] <hondje> gigamonkey: If you asked 30 minutes ago, I had THE guy to ask there :)
[05:13] <thoreauputic> fkemal: right click the desktop, choose terminal, type that in, hit enter
[05:13] <LinuxJones> jeroen_, I thought you were trying to change your timezone ?
[05:13] <klaym> here's my desktop: www.kotiposti.net/jisometsa/Kuvakaappaus.png
[05:13] <gigamonkey> hondje: do you mean "that's an oddball kernel thing" as in, "not an Ubuntu problem"?
[05:13] <LDM> fkermal: Launch a shell (command prompt)
[05:13] <thoreauputic> fkemal: lspci | grep snd      << type that and see if it contains  snd_cmipci  (don't paste the output here)
[05:13] <hondje> gigamonkey: Well, could be if something wasn't compiled right, or missed a bug fix, but I'd offhand suspect hardware or the kernel
[05:13] <Fanskapet> reka, yes but i've done that before so it won't be a problem for me :)
[05:14] <Fanskapet> hondje, hmm well nah.. just used the update manager and updated GAIM :)
[05:14] <Fanskapet> and that shouldn't break the GL compatibility :
[05:14] <Fanskapet> :P
[05:14] <reka> Fanskapet: ah, no worries then. :-)
[05:14] <jeroen_> LinuxJones, I don't have to enter my password
[05:14] <hondje> Fanskapet: hrm, I guess just reinstall the fglrx drivers and hope :)
[05:14] <ivanox> anyone around using wine?
[05:14] <jeroen_> LinuxJones, because I had Synaptic open not-so-long-ago
[05:14] <Fanskapet> yeah :)
[05:14] <Fanskapet> *yawns*
[05:14] <LinuxJones> jeroen_, ohh ok
[05:14] <jeroen_> LinuxJones, less than 15 minutes ago, so the password is saved
[05:14] <vHintswen> sudo cat /dev/ttys1 don't work (input/output error)
[05:15] <LinuxJones> jeroen_, yeah I didn't get what you were talking about :D
[05:15] <jeroen_> LinuxJones, sorry, anyway, I opened it
[05:15] <vHintswen> gonna b 2 noisy to take out my mouse and plug it in there and all so i try that in morn
[05:15] <theine> vHintswen, "sudo cat /dev/ttys1" or "sudo cat /dev/ttyS1"? there's a difference...
[05:15] <samuel> sup all, is there a better menu editor than SMEG? SMEG wont edit the preferences menu yet... or by hand?
[05:15] <gigamonkey> So the main problem that this hdc lost interrupt seems to cause is that it completely freezes VMWare, rendering one of it's processes unkillable, even with kill -9 as root.
[05:16] <gigamonkey> Is there any chance that VMWare is somehow causing the problem as well? Or is it just an innocent victim?
[05:16] <jeroen_> LinuxJones, and no, I don't want to change my timezone
[05:16] <fkemal> thoreauputic....  no it doesnot contain snd_cmipci
[05:16] <jeroen_> I want Ubuntu to see the time/date settings in the BIOS as GMT, not local time
[05:16] <VincentX> how do you make a root account=
[05:16] <theine> vHintswen, anyway, good luck, gotta leave now...
[05:16] <VincentX> how do you make a root account?
[05:17] <jeroen_> VincentX, sudo password
[05:17] <Seveas> samuel, the preferences menu is not part of the freedestktop.org specification
[05:17] <LDM> fkemal: did you get lspci to work for you?
[05:17] <Heimdall> hey LinuxJones, are are you guy ?
[05:17] <jeroen_> VincentX, but there's no use really
[05:17] <Seveas> VincentX: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:17] <fkemal> no... how do i get it ..
[05:17] <Seveas> samuel, and as such, there will probably not be an editor for that
[05:17] <thoreauputic> fkemal: aargh sorry - type lsmod | grep snd and see if it is in that (my mistake)
[05:18] <TokenBad> hondje, looks like got it to connect...and restrict to home dir
[05:18] <TokenBad> now to see if anyone can upload
[05:18] <Seveas> jeroen_, sudo passwd will have unexpected results :) (ie, you change YOUR password :))
[05:18] <hondje> TokenBad: the moment of truth ;-)
[05:18] <TokenBad> well it hasn't let anyone upload yet
[05:18] <LinuxJones> Heimdall, eh am I a guy ?
[05:18] <samuel> Seveas, no kiddin? didnt know that, b4 you could edit everything with nautilus... is that going to work again? just curious?
[05:18] <TokenBad> why would this be any different
[05:18] <TokenBad> heheh
[05:18] <jeroen_> Seveas, VincentX okay, "sudo -i && password" then
[05:18] <christos> is the password for su different from the password i use for sudo?
[05:18] <LDM> fkemal: are you using GNOME or KDE for your desxtop?
[05:18] <Seveas> jeroen_, will neither work :)
[05:19] <Heimdall> LinuxJones : don't know this is an expression.... :/ :)
[05:19] <Seveas> sudo -i will open a new shell
[05:19] <fkemal> Gnome i think
[05:19] <Seveas> passwd will be executed after that shell terminates
[05:19] <Seveas> jeroen_, welcome to the intricacies of sudo :)
[05:19] <Heimdall> LinuxJones : anyway I hope youre doing well
[05:19] <ivanox> is dma enabled on harddrives by default or do I have to enable it?
[05:19] <jeroen_> Seveas, VincentX last attempt: "sudo password root"
[05:20] <LinuxJones> Heimdall, thanks dude same to you :)
[05:20] <LDM> fkemal: ok, I'm not as familiar with gnome... but you want to go where your programs are listed, and look for gnometerminal or something similar.
[05:20] <hondje> ivanox: you have to add it, /etc/hdparm.conf
[05:20] <VincentX> ok
[05:20] <fkemal> thoreauputic ... it is not there also
[05:20] <thoreauputic> jeroen_: typo - passwd is what you want
[05:20] <jeroen_> thoreauputic, yeah..
[05:20] <thoreauputic> fkemal: what does lspci | grep audio say ?
[05:20] <jeroen_> stupid sudo :p
[05:20] <jeroen_> I want Ubuntu to see the time/date settings in the BIOS as GMT, not local time
[05:21] <TokenBad> dang none of my friends are answering so they can test my ftp
[05:21] <jeroen_> How do I do this?
[05:21] <TokenBad> must be to early for them
[05:21] <VincentX> be back in a sec
[05:21] <fkemal> there writes.... snd_pcm.... snd_usb_audio and much more... but not snd_cmipci
[05:21] <Seveas> jeroen_, try tzconfig
[05:21] <mypapit> i've installed ubuntu 5.04...but how do i get connected to broadband (adsl)?
[05:21] <jeroen_> Seveas, have tried, that just change timezone
[05:21] <Seveas> (oslt)
[05:21] <mypapit> help me!!
[05:22] <fkemal> ldm... i have root terminal.. and its open
[05:22] <thr1ce> mypapit, you probably already are
[05:22] <thr1ce> try ping www.google.com
[05:22] <Seveas> mypapit, try pppoeconf
[05:22] <ivanox> hondje, should I enable it on the device or on the partitions? I suppose device would be more logic right?
[05:22] <mypapit> ok
[05:22] <thoreauputic> jeroen_: or rerun sudo base-config and change the time to utc
[05:22] <hondje> ivanox: correct
[05:22] <Seveas> ivanox, device indeed
[05:22] <ivanox> ok coolio
[05:22] <thr1ce> for broadband...?
[05:22] <hondje> ivanox: if you want, msg me and I can give you some hdparm help
[05:22] <mypapit> thr1ce, i'm using other box rite now, because ubuntu 5.04 can connect directly to adsl
[05:22] <thr1ce> ooh, adsl
[05:23] <thr1ce> nevermind then  :_
[05:23] <mypapit> Seveas, wish ubuntu made these things more obvious
[05:23] <thr1ce> actually, ubuntu probably hs the BEST hardware detection of any distro
[05:23] <bionic> Anyone know how i get Quake3 to use alsa aswell? I changed the snddevice to /dev/adsp, but it still show up that quake3 uses /dev/dsp when i run lsof |grep dsp
[05:23] <Seveas> mypapit, agreed :)
[05:23] <thr1ce> so no complaining
[05:23] <thoreauputic> fkemal:    lspci | grep audio  should tell you what sound card you have
[05:23] <TokenBad> mypapit, I use cable..and it detected mine auto
[05:23] <mypapit> thr1ce, agreed with you... hardware detection was a breeze... easy to use... but i cant connect to dsl..
[05:24] <jeroen_> thoreauputic, it gives no output
[05:24] <Seveas> TokenBad, adsl isn't cable
[05:24] <mypapit> TokenBad, maybe because it was assign by dhcp
[05:24] <thoreauputic> jeroen_: odd
[05:24] <TokenBad> ahh
[05:24] <Seveas> TokenBad, cable doesn't use pppoe
[05:24] <jeroen_> thoreauputic, Breezy here, though ;)
[05:24] <mypapit> hehe..
[05:24] <thoreauputic> jeroen_: all bets are off then ;)
[05:25] <reka> bionic: can you now play > 2 sounds at once now? (i sent you the fix last night)
[05:25] <fkemal> thoreauputic ... it says nothing...
[05:25] <jeroen_> thoreauputic, I don't see why; there must be a way to stop Ubuntu from setting the system clock from the hardware clock in such a way..
[05:25] <fkemal> thoreauputic ... may i pm u? wanna ask something in private
[05:25] <thoreauputic> fkemal: :(
[05:25] <jeroen_> well, there should be a way.. thoreauputic
[05:26] <Seveas> jeroen_, run base-config again...
[05:26] <bionic> reka, well i can now with f.eks xmms and mplayer, but quake3 still stops at sound initializing when running xmms
[05:26] <thoreauputic> jeroen_: running base-config should work
[05:26] <thoreauputic> fkemal: OK
[05:26] <lancer285> is there a .deb package for mplayer that works w/ ubuntu?
[05:26] <thr1ce> www.ubuntuguide.com
[05:26] <Seveas> lancer285, yes, in the Ubuntu multiverse repository :)
[05:26] <thr1ce> org
[05:26] <thr1ce> *
[05:27] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is bad...
[05:27] <thr1ce> it has the answer
[05:27] <thoreauputic> fkemal: OK accepted - go ahead
[05:27] <fkemal> ok
[05:27] <lancer285> is there a way to search the repository? so I can find the package name?
[05:27] <thr1ce> "how can I install other media players, such as Mplayer"
[05:27] <nalioth> ubuntugide is bad
[05:27] <thr1ce> apt-cache search mplayer
[05:27] <Seveas> lancer285, apt-cache search
[05:27] <Seveas> lancer285, or packages.ubuntu.com
[05:27] <reka> bionic: does it run ok without xmms?
[05:27] <fkemal> can u make a direct connection to my pc.. with remote control.. is there a way ?
[05:27] <nalioth> lancer285: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:27] <lancer285> awesome, thanks.
[05:27] <thoreauputic> fkemal: I see no message ?
[05:27] <bionic> reka, yes it does, i use the alsa output
[05:27] <jeroen_> thanks Seveas
[05:27] <lancer285> I'm used to urpmi w/ mandrake, so this is pretty new to me
[05:28] <lambert> hello
[05:28] <bionic> reka, that came out wrong, thaught you meant xmms, but yeah quake3 runs ok without xmms
[05:28] <thr1ce> i used google with slackware :)
[05:28] <lambert> not french here???
[05:28] <nalioth> lambert: en #ubuntu-fr
[05:28] <lambert> ?what?
[05:28] <virtuald> can anyone show me their /etc/ld.so.conf?
[05:28] <reka> bionic: ah, i'm just interested mind, i don't have a solution ... haven't installed q3 yet in ubuntu
[05:28] <thoreauputic> fkemal: try just /msg thoreauputic <something>
[05:29] <nalioth> lambert: parlez francais en #ubuntu-fr
[05:29] <Heimdall> hey lambert : #ubuntu-fr st le channel en franais mais y'a moins demonde ;)
[05:29] <lambert> oah ok
[05:29] <Heimdall> nalioth : ahah :)
[05:29] <lambert> bou j'ai eu peur
[05:29] <thoreauputic> fkemal: your dcc isn't getting through
[05:29] <Seveas> virtuald:
[05:29] <Seveas> cat: /etc/ld.so.c: No such file or directory
[05:29] <Seveas> dennis@mirage ~ $ cat /etc/ld.so.conf
[05:29] <Seveas> /usr/X11R6/lib
[05:29] <Seveas> ghe, discard the first line of that ;)
[05:29] <virtuald> ok thankns
[05:29] <Heimdall> lambert : si tu fais de l'info,n il faut parler anglais sans en avoir peur ;)
[05:29] <virtuald> :)
[05:29] <lambert> ok merci
[05:29] <Heimdall> u'r welcome
[05:30] <christos> is su supported in ubuntu?
[05:30] <lambert> amis je dois repartir  alors @+
[05:30] <optik> hey, I just purchased a font for use on a design that I am doing, how do I make it so that I can use the font in gimp?
[05:30] <nalioth> christos: yes it is
[05:30] <thenuke> how do I reinstall grub to MBR with some liveCD?
[05:30] <Heimdall> reka : you think that's beautifile language ?? :)
[05:30] <Heimdall> beautiful*
[05:30] <reka> Heimdall: well... the girls sure like it. :-)
[05:30] <Seveas> thechitowncubs, mount your drives, chroot into the installed system and run grub-install
[05:30] <jeroen_> thenuke, search for it, you'll find it
[05:30] <christos> the password i use to login doesn't work for su, what should i use?
[05:30] <nalioth> optik: drop it in ~/.fonts  i believe
[05:30] <Seveas> thenuke*
[05:30] <Heimdall> reka : oh ? :)
[05:31] <Fabian> how can I copy all files that end with .hrf from one directory to another?
[05:31] <Heimdall> reka : well one point for me so ;)
[05:31] <nalioth> christos: su only works to switch regular users by default
[05:31] <Seveas> Fabian, cp /path/to/folder1/*.hrf /path/to/folder2/
[05:31] <reka> Fabian: cp *.hrf /path/to
[05:31] <nalioth> christos: ubuntu doesnt use 'root' account by default
[05:31] <lancer285> fabian cp path/to/files/*.hrf /path/to/files
[05:31] <christos> ok i got it
[05:31] <optik> nalioth:  there is no ~/.fonts
[05:31] <Seveas> christos: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:31] <Fabian> hehe, thx Seveas, reka, lancer285
[05:31] <Jester> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu-amd64 on a hardware SATA raid0 running on nforce3 chipset.  It's able to find the HDs correctly, but it can't see the raid and puts them as 2 seperate drives on /dev/sda and /dev/sdb. Anything I could do to make it recognize the raid, or anyone succeeded with a raid on nforce3-250GB?
[05:31] <nalioth> optik: so make one
[05:32] <Fabian> like windows then....
[05:32] <Brunellus> stupid questions:  If I no longer want to run the 2.6.11 kernel and prefer to run 2.6.8, can I just remove the 2.6.11 kernel in apt and have ubuntu boot the 2.6.8?
[05:32] <optik> kk
[05:32] <christos> so su doesn't mean super user it meas switch user
[05:32] <nalioth> christos: you are after "sudo"
[05:32] <Seveas> Brunellus, 2.6.10 is the default for hoary though, but yes you can
[05:32] <lsuactiafner> Jester : i had the same problem, basicaly i pwned a gentoo 64bit boxen and made my own kernel that actually worked
[05:32] <optik> nalioth:  just restart X now?
[05:32] <virtuald> does a library need something extra for static linking?
[05:32] <Seveas> Brunellus, warning though: install the other one first, reboot into it and *then* remove the other
[05:32] <nalioth> optik: restart shouldnt be required
[05:32] <virtuald> like an .a file
[05:33] <nalioth> optik: just open gimp
[05:33] <Brunellus> Seveas:  I still have the 2.6.8 kernel and the headers...
[05:33] <topyli> Fabian: actually, wildcards are used a bit differently. * in unix = *.* in windows
[05:33] <Brunellus> In fact, I'm running off that kernel now
[05:33] <Jester> lsuactiafner, ok so newer kernels should work ?
[05:33] <Brunellus> 2.6.10 doesn't like my hardware or ndiswrapper--because somehow I can't seem to get ndiswrapper and my wlan driver to run with kernels newer than 2.6.8-5
[05:33] <lsuactiafner> yeh newer kernels continue to add support for new hardware
[05:33] <optik> thanks
[05:33] <optik> worked :D
[05:34] <nalioth> optik: restarting is only required when one updates the kernel
[05:34] <Brunellus> Seveas:  are they still releasing security patches for the 2.6.8x kernels, or is that done?
[05:35] <Seveas> ...or when one has seriously screwed up services/kernel modules nalioth :)
[05:35] <Seveas> Brunellus, yes they are
[05:35] <nalioth> Seveas: there are exceptions to all rules
[05:35] <Brunellus> b/c ideally, I'd like to point apt to get the patched 2.6.8 kernel and headers, but run hoary otherwise
[05:35] <nalioth_wrkn> work schedule of a cab drive is never static
[05:35] <Seveas> Brunellus, they will continue to support 2.6.8 for at least 16 more months
[05:36] <Brunellus> awesomeness.  what repository would I have to add to keep the 2.6.8 kernel?
[05:36] <Seveas> s/16/10/
[05:36] <Seveas> apt-pin the kernel to warty and use hoary for the rest :)
[05:36] <Brunellus> wait, how do I do I apt-pin the kernel to warty?
[05:37] <Seveas> Brunellus, search the wiki for apt pinning
[05:37] <Brunellus> ta very muchly!
[05:37] <topyli> Brunellus: you can do it in synaptic if you don't feel like reading :)
[05:37] <lsuactiafner> seems a new kernel is out yay
[05:37] <Brunellus> is anyone aware of an ubuntu backport for the uqm 0.4 package?
[05:38] <scott> they removed the instructions for installing mplayer's codecs with totem from the wiki. I did add proprietary plugins in totem which opened a directory and I just copied them all in there, but they aren't working
[05:38] <scott> any ideas?
[05:38] <Brunellus> what?!
[05:38] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you there?
[05:38] <Brunellus> they removed 'restricted-formats'?
[05:39] <Heimdall> HappyFool : yeah
[05:39] <scott> Brunellus: no, they just removed that section
[05:39] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I found some interesting stuff
[05:39] <topyli> either beagle 0.0.11 is faster than .10 or i'm dreaming
[05:39] <HappyFool> Heimdall: needed a break from the pc
[05:39] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ah-ha?
[05:39] <Heimdall> HappyFool : normal
[05:39] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I think
[05:39] <Brunellus> h'mmm.  googlecache tme?
[05:39] <Brunellus> time?
[05:39] <Heimdall> HappyFool : did you see my link ?
[05:39] <Heimdall> HappyFool : http://nico.aunai.free.fr/tmp/
[05:39] <HappyFool> Brunellus: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats is still there, afaik
[05:40] <LinuxJones> scott, alot of folks just install totem-xine or gxine and it just works after installing the w32codec package
[05:40] <Jester> lsuactiafner, sry to bother you mate lol, been trying to find a solution to this problem for a while (amd64+nforce3+raid), can you detail a bit how you made it work ?
[05:40] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok, going there now
[05:40] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I don't understand very much of those files BUT, I found something
[05:40] <ilba7r> do i have to reboot every time i loose connection to my wirless network or is there a smarter way to re establish network connection?
[05:40] <reka> scott: it's still there: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo
[05:41] <Heimdall> HappyFool : this link : http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/slmodem-serial.html, which actually talk about the new driver
[05:41] <jbroome> ilba7r: sudo /etc/init.d/network restart might work better
[05:41] <scott> reka, LinuxJones, thanks
[05:41] <ilba7r> thanx jbroome
[05:41] <Heimdall> HappyFool : it could be that the previous driver was not ok, so I uninstalled all, and I wanna try this new one
[05:41] <thoreauputic> ilba7r: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart  or ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0   I guess
[05:41] <jbroome> ilba7r: np
[05:42] <Heimdall> told to be compatible with kernel 2.6
[05:42] <fetman> what's wrong with my sound? all of a sudden it's just all quiet? I have checked the volume-settings, the soundcard (it works in windows), and the amplifier.. :(
[05:42] <zorglube> join/ ubuntu-fr
[05:42] <ilba7r> thoreauputic unfourtanetly it is wlan not eth0
[05:42] <thoreauputic> ilba7r: then substitute as appropriate I supose
[05:42] <thoreauputic> *suppose
[05:43] <LinuxJones> fetman, hit "alt + F2" then start typing gstreamer-properties (it will auto-complete for you)
[05:44] <LinuxJones> fetman, for the output try selecting esd or alsa and see if one of those work
[05:44] <fetman> LinuxJones: ok..
[05:44] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hrm
[05:44] <Heimdall> HappyFool yes ?
[05:44] <ilba7r> thoreauputic thanx i will try it though with wlan things are not as smooth as with eth
[05:44] <ilba7r> thank you guys
[05:44] <TokenBad> bah i give up
[05:44] <Addius> aff, I'd forgotten how long it takes to compile a whole kernel on an older system <,<
[05:44] <fetman> LinuxJones: output is set to ESD, and input is set to OSS
[05:45] <HappyFool> Heimdall: have you tried that 'the symptom' part? Do you have that problem?
[05:45] <TokenBad> people still can't upload
[05:45] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i thought your modemd launch ok
[05:45] <TokenBad> but at least now says permission denied
[05:45] <refuze2looze> i have a multimedia keyboard that i'm trying to get to control beep media player. so i mapped my play/etc keys to XF86Play, etc. using xmodmap and using configuration editor assigned XF86Play to "beep-media-player -t" but it's not working. using xev i can see that the keys are working and indeed mapped to XF86AudioPlay. anybody know what's going on??
[05:45] <Heimdall> HappyFool : what symptom aprt ?
[05:45] <hondje> refuze2looze: try using the absolute path, maybe?
[05:45] <LinuxJones> fetman, ok did you try alsa as output then hit test to see if there is sound
[05:46] <HappyFool> Heimdall: near the top of http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/slmodem-serial.html
[05:46] <HappyFool> Heimdall: 'The symptom:'
[05:46] <fetman> LinuxJones: no sound
[05:46] <refuze2looze> hondje: what do you mean?
[05:46] <Heimdall> HappyFool : err...no :-D
[05:46] <TokenBad> I think I need to redo the mount stuff
[05:46] <TokenBad> and thats why people can't uploads
[05:47] <fetman> LinuxJones: when i try to test with esd it says "failed to construct test pipeline for esd"
[05:47] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I'll install the new driver, can't be worst
[05:47] <LinuxJones> fetman, right click the sound icon on the gnome panel and select properties, is there a soundcard listed in the dropdown list box ?
[05:47] <hondje> refuze2looze: /usr/bin/beep-media-player
[05:47] <HappyFool> Heimdall: fair enough
[05:48] <Heimdall> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy ?
[05:48] <refuze2looze> hondje: nah.. i tried having it run other stuff too and it doesn't work
[05:48] <hondje> refuze2looze: where'd you set the shortcuts at?
[05:48] <scott> anyone know where evolution saves it's configs? I always copy my .evolution folder over thinking that will keep everything but it always asks me to enter account info etc anyway
[05:48] <HappyFool> Heimdall: is that for me?
[05:49] <Heimdall> HappyFool : sorry, yes
[05:49] <fkemal> can i see the files on a ntfs partition in linux ??? is that possible
[05:49] <Heimdall> HappyFool : is that correct ?
[05:49] <reka> refuze2looze: afaik, you need to have bmp active before using the buttons, which kind of nulls the whole point of having the keys.  do they work when bmp is active?
[05:49] <HappyFool> Heimdall: that should work if the directory /media/floppy exists
[05:49] <LinuxJones> fkemal, yeah look @ www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:49] <refuze2looze> hondje: the keyboard shortcuts? configuration-editor /apps/metacity/global_keybindings (the other shortcuts i assigned there do work
[05:49] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you might want a 'umask=222' or similar option
[05:49] <Heimdall> heee.... not working :)
[05:49] <refuze2looze> reka: no. bmp is active
[05:49] <hondje> refuze2looze: hrm, got me beat then :)
[05:49] <HappyFool> Heimdall: does /media/floppy exist ?
[05:50] <Heimdall> yes
[05:50] <balor> I've got my sound drivers loaded but some OSS programs seem to be failing. How can I find out what's making them fail?
[05:50] <refuze2looze> reka: even if i try to have it open firefox or something it doesn't work
[05:50] <fetman> LinuxJones: you mean preference instead of properties?
[05:50] <Heimdall> I must have a floppy in it ??
[05:50] <HappyFool> Heimdall: try 'mount /dev/fd0'
[05:50] <reka> refuze2looze: using gnome?
[05:50] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yes ;)
[05:50] <fetman> LinuxJones: and yes, it's listed there
[05:50] <Heimdall> ah lol
[05:50] <Heimdall> what a shame :)
[05:50] <refuze2looze> reka: yes
[05:50] <HappyFool> Heimdall: /dev/fd0 is in /etc/fstab with a 'user' option, so you shouldn't need sudo
[05:50] <refuze2looze> reka: the funny thing is it was working before and then it suddenly stopped
[05:51] <reka> refuze2looze: i've always set mine up using: sys->prefs->k/b shortcuts
[05:51] <reka> refuze2looze: i'm not familiar with your method
[05:51] <HappyFool> Heimdall: which version of the driver are you going to try?
[05:51] <Heimdall> HappyFool : http://www.smlink.com/objects/slmodem-2.9.10.tar.gz
[05:51] <Heimdall> this one
[05:51] <Lafitte-> what file i edit to edit my grub loader (remove older kernel entries ?
[05:51] <Heimdall> the last
[05:51] <dhonn> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:51] <Lafitte-> thanks
[05:51] <thoreauputic> Lafitte-: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:52] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I've read about : http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/smartlink/ungrab-winmodem.tar.gz also in the files...
[05:52] <TokenBad> who can help me with mounting drive..to see if can figure out why people can't upload to me?
[05:53] <reka> refuze2looze: might be worth a look: http://bmp-itouch.sourceforge.net/
[05:53] <HappyFool> Heimdall: that's only needed in specific cases, as far as i can tell from the linmodems page
[05:53] <Heimdall> okay
[05:53] <refuze2looze> reka: you set it there and it controls BMP?
[05:53] <Heimdall> HappyFool : well tat cool I'm learning a lot of things
[05:54] <HappyFool> Heimdall: it might be worth trying if what you're doing now doesn't work
[05:54] <Heimdall> I know how to mount my floppy :) cooool )
[05:54] <Heimdall> lol
[05:54] <reka> refuze2looze: only when it's active, which is why it's kind of pointless.
[05:54] <Hajuu> Hey.
[05:54] <HappyFool> Heimdall: bear in mind this will all be for naught when you get your adsl modem
[05:54] <reka> refuze2looze: you should be able to start firefox through there though
[05:54] <Hajuu> Where can I check my modems flow control settings?
[05:54] <Heimdall> yes
[05:54] <Heimdall> I take notes
[05:54] <Heimdall> :)
[05:54] <jbroome> then you get to play with pppoe!  woohoo
[05:55] <refuze2looze> reka: ok.. i changed the keyboard shortcut to <mod4>P to see if it works, it worked, changed it back to XF86AudioPlay, and suddenly everything works.. i did absolutely nothing else.
[05:55] <Hajuu> modem/comport
[05:55] <refuze2looze> reka: and BMP doesn't need to be active, so i suggest you try this method as well
[05:56] <refuze2looze> reka: must have been some kind of bug. very strange
[05:56] <reka> refuze2looze: i'm not desperate to use them, but it might be useful... could you please explain the method?
[05:56] <Hajuu> Where can I check my modems flow control settings?
[05:56] <Hajuu> modem/comport
[05:57] <hondje> anyone get firestarter and dict to play nice?
[05:57] <Heimdall> HappyFool : ok have decompressed the driver with gzip, now what ? this is not a deb file
[05:57] <HappyFool> Heimdall: indeed
[05:58] <Heimdall> :/
[05:58] <HappyFool> Heimdall: just a sec
[05:58] <Heimdall> lol
[05:58] <HappyFool> Heimdall: how big is the download?
[05:58] <thoreauputic> hondje: try test.dict.org
[05:58] <Heimdall> 2.2M uncompressed
[05:58] <thoreauputic> hondje: the default dict URL is wrong now
[05:59] <Heimdall> 2242560
[05:59] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok, i'm downloading it now
[05:59] <HappyFool> Heimdall: does it have a readme?
[05:59] <HappyFool> erk
[05:59] <thoreauputic> hondje: I set an alias for it in .bashrc as well as in th egnome dict thing
[05:59] <hondje> thoreauputic: oh, thanks man
[05:59] <hondje> isn't there /etc/dict.conf?
[05:59] <hondje> no :o
[05:59] <thoreauputic> hondje: working?
[06:00] <Heimdall> hum when I decompress it, it removes the '.gz' and thats all
[06:00] <Heimdall> M file
[06:00] <HappyFool> Heimdall: try 'tar xf slmodem-2.9.10.tar
[06:00] <hondje> thoreauputic: like a champ, thanks man
[06:00] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you can extract directly from tar.gz's with 'tar xzf slmodem-2.9.10.tar.gz
[06:00] <thoreauputic> :D
[06:00] <Heimdall> ritgh
[06:00] <Heimdall> right
[06:01] <Heimdall> this was a tar file I just sazw it with 'file' command
[06:01] <ekCo> anyone know how to update drivers etc withouth having the ubuntu cd
[06:01] <ekCo> i lost it
[06:01] <HappyFool> Heimdall: it should create an sl-modem directory, or perhaps sl-modem-2.9.10 directory
[06:01] <ekCo> and cant get nvidia drivers installed
[06:01] <reka> question: anyone know of a good offline dictionary?  something like this: http://wordweb.info/more.html
[06:01] <Heimdall> yes indeed
[06:02] <Heimdall> and there is a README
[06:02] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ah-ha
[06:02] <ekCo> anyone know how to update drivers etc withouth having the ubuntu cd???
[06:02] <ivanox> ekCo, use the repos
[06:02] <Heimdall> HappyFool : seems to be much easier
[06:02] <reka> ekCo: you shouldn't need the cd if you have a net connection. just get everything you need in the repos.
[06:02] <HappyFool> Heimdall: sort of
[06:02] <refuze2looze> reka: sure.. first you have to use xev to see the key codes of the multimedia keys, then you use xmodmap -pke xmodmap.conf to create the default configuration, you might need to add key bindings to the configuration file to the keycodes you found in xev. then open up configuration-editor and go to /apps/metacity/global_keybindings, add what you mapped to the key codes to run_command_X, and in /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands add
[06:02] <refuze2looze>  the command such as beep-media-player -t for play/pause
[06:03] <refuze2looze> reka: oh and you should copy the configuration file to /etc/xmodmap.conf and use the command xmodmap /etc/xmodmap.conf to get em to work
[06:03] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you'll need to recompile the driver every time you update the kernel
[06:03] <ekCo> how reka?
[06:03] <ivanox> ekCo, go here www.ubuntuguide.org and get their repolist, but dont use the us.archive. replace it with like de.archive
[06:03] <HappyFool> Heimdall: try just running 'make' and 'sudo make install' as suggested in the README
[06:03] <vince_> I'm using hotway to have evolution check my hotmail account, but wish to have it mark downloaded messages as read. Can anyone tell me wht file I need to edit and how? thanks!
[06:04] <Heimdall> I'm doing it
[06:04] <reka> ivanox: or better yet, just archive.com iirc
[06:04] <Heimdall> launching gcc ;)
[06:04] <Varanger> IA-32 = i386 ???
[06:04] <Heimdall> seems cool
[06:04] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yeah, the instructions are pretty clear
[06:05] <Heimdall> HappyFool : ok I've made it
[06:05] <Heimdall> do you think that's all ?
[06:05] <mikas> i was just wondering.. how come it is easier to type exactly three question marks rather than one...
[06:05] <hondje> IA-32?!
[06:05] <hondje> Oh man, this is all getting too confusing :)
[06:05] <HappyFool> Heimdall: 'sudo make install' etc -- follow the instructions in the README
[06:05] <Seveas> Varanger, yes
[06:05] <ekCo> reka, already done all that
[06:05] <ekCo> but its asking me for cs
[06:05] <ekCo> cd*
[06:05] <lancer285> Hey, where do I get the libdvdcss?
[06:06] <TokenBad> ok question
[06:06] <reka> mikas: how come it's easier to type three dots rather than a question mark? :-p
[06:06] <TokenBad> if I want to mount a drive
[06:06] <TokenBad> and make it so that the drive is usable for all people
[06:06] <thoreauputic> ekCo: comment out the CD line in /etc/apt/sources.list and update
[06:06] <HappyFool> lancer285: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats tells you how, afaik
[06:06] <ekCo> k
[06:06] <lancer285> Thanks HappyFool
[06:06] <Heimdall> HappyFool : yes I'm at config country
[06:07] <ekCo> um there isnt any about the cs..
[06:07] <ekCo> cd*
[06:07] <TokenBad> what is the should it be set as owned by root?
[06:07] <ekCo> you mean add a # to the top?
[06:07] <thoreauputic> ekCo: there must be, or it wouldn't ask - at the top
[06:07] <HappyFool> Heimdall: is it working?
[06:07] <ekCo> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release amd64 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted to #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release amd64 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted
[06:07] <ekCo> ?
[06:07] <thoreauputic> ekCo: then do sudo apt-get update afterwards
[06:07] <Heimdall> I'm not sure to understand the command
[06:07] <BockBilbo> hey there
[06:08] <thoreauputic> ekCo: that's the line, yes
[06:08] <ekCo> ok
[06:08] <BockBilbo> whats the way to adding an iso locale to the system?
[06:08] <Hajuu> Where can I check my modems flow control settings? I think theres a problem with it because when I run an application that accesses the internet (with my connection activated through "pon"), it takes every last scrap of bandwidth possible.. causing problems with both my IRC and gAIM connections...
[06:08] <HappyFool> Heimdall: which command?
[06:08] <Heimdall> 6/
[06:08] <Heimdall> to config modem country
[06:09] <HappyFool> oh, right
[06:09] <Ninwa> Does anybody know how to configure recording devices (microphone), I can hear myself talk into it over the speaker when the volume is up, but it doesn't record.
[06:09] <Hajuu> hmm, Heimdall ?
[06:09] <HappyFool> try slmodemd --countrylist
[06:09] <Heimdall> yes Hajuu ?
[06:09] <cary> [yaaawwwn] 
[06:09] <HappyFool> or slmodemd --countrylist|grep -i france
[06:09] <HappyFool> Heimdall: or just don't worry about it for now
[06:10] <bob2> Hajuu: how could that be related to modem flow control?
[06:10] <Heimdall> ok I prefer don't worry so ;)))
[06:10] <cary> 	pfp, what are the chances you are around?
[06:10] <Heimdall> HappyFool : so this is it
[06:10] <HappyFool> Heimdall: do the 'Getting started' instructions too
[06:10] <Heimdall> yes, but for installation
[06:10] <HappyFool> Heimdall: afaik
[06:11] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you can probably tweak things so these commands are run on startup
[06:11] <scott> anyone have a T40 thinkpad? what do I need to do to get the hard drive to stop burning a hole in my case, have it suspend to ram when I close the lid?
[06:11] <azol> hi all. how can I use "modem on hold" (v.92)  in Linux? is it possible?
[06:11] <Heimdall> I try
[06:11] <HappyFool> hmm, i seem to have b0rked synaptic *sigh*
[06:11] <ekCo> thanks guys.
[06:11] <bob2> scott: same as on any other laptop, edit /etc/default/acpi-support
[06:11] <ekCo> later
[06:11] <ompaul> Is there such a beast as software that helps someone design model railways?
[06:11] <abbot45> does anyone else have a problem with Pan Newsreader crashing all the time?
[06:11] <zorglube> join/ #ubuntu-fr
[06:11] <bob2> scott: but at least some t40's don't sleep very well, due to the radeon not powering off
[06:12] <Maus> Flash on my system doesn't play with any sound.  Am I missing a package?
[06:12] <samuel> anyone know how to access winpopup from linux? as in send messages? i dont want linpopup
[06:12] <thoreauputic> ompaul: interesting question: in open source I don't know - a friend has such a thing on his windows box
[06:12] <jbroome> Maus: i'd say that was a feature, not a bug. :)
[06:13] <snadge> can someone give me a quick explanation of vga= options?
[06:13] <ompaul> thoreauputic, well if there is none I better learn to code one up rather fast and I have not seen that other one :-)
[06:13] <apollo2011> How do I check if the smb.conf doesn't have any errors in it like typos that will make it invalid?
[06:13] <bob2> Maus: no
[06:13] <mebaran151> what's a muppet
[06:13] <mebaran151> I just saw it on the side
[06:13] <thoreauputic> ompaul: nice project for you: write a model railway design program ;)
[06:13] <snadge> i've tried normal, and 778.. and normal gives me a corrupted console, and 778 gives me a horizontal bar in X
[06:13] <bob2> samuel: why don't you want linpopup?
[06:13] <bob2> Maus: run "pkill esd", restart firefox, do you get sound?
[06:13] <bob2> apollo2011: try running samba
[06:13] <samuel> bob2, i dont want the messages poping up on my computer
[06:14] <jbroome> apollo2011: testparm
[06:14] <ompaul> thoreauputic, well yeah thanks ;-)
[06:14] <hondje> anyone use fetchyahoo w/ evolution?
[06:14] <apollo2011> jbroome: ok so just "testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf"?
[06:14] <thoreauputic> mebaran151: heh - google  " sesame street muppets" :)
[06:14] <jbroome> apollo2011: i believe so
[06:14] <apollo2011> cool thx
[06:14] <Maus> bob2: yes
[06:14] <sproingie> thoreauputic: better yet google "the muppet show"
[06:14] <bob2> Maus: cool
[06:15] <thoreauputic> sproingie: yeah, I'm out of date there ;)
[06:15] <Maus> bob2: What did we just do?
[06:15] <ompaul> sproingie, that last one was for mebaran151
[06:15] <bob2> Maus: kill the program that was using your sound card
[06:15] <LokeDK> I've installed apache 1.3 with apt-get.. and the wwwroot is /var/www .. But as normal user I can't write to that directory.. I've added my user to the www-data group but I still don't have write access.. also maked sure to chmod it
[06:15] <Maus> bob2: Then what was that program using for to begin with, and will I have to do this every time I boot?
[06:16] <apollo2011> jbroome: it worked and said the file was fine but my Windows pc sees it ok and my other two ubuntu systems say there is an invalid parameter and won't load the shares...
[06:16] <bob2> LokeDK: www-data is the user apache runs as; it should never ever have write permissions to /var/www/
[06:16] <sig> what are the purposes of backports? can someone explain?
[06:16] <Heimdall> HappyFool :oooooh he does not want france :)
[06:16] <bob2> LokeDK: if you really want a user to have write access to /var/www/, chown it to their user
[06:16] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i'm sorry? ;)
[06:16] <bob2> sig: to bring newer software to stable versions of ubuntu
[06:17] <sig> I see
[06:17] <mebaran151> thoreauputic, no
[06:17] <HappyFool> sig: see here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40291
[06:17] <mebaran151> I know THE MUPPETS
[06:17] <LokeDK> bob2, Yeah I know.. it's chowned to root:www-data as default.. so I could chown it to f.ex loke:www-data ?
[06:17] <thoreauputic> sig: backports are new apps that impatient people can't wait 6 months for ;)
[06:17] <sig> bob2: so I should add it
[06:17] <mebaran151> just on my irc list
[06:17] <mebaran151> I have two "muppets" listed
[06:17] <bob2> Maus: kill firefox, does "esddsp mozilla-firefox" start firefox and have sound for flash?
[06:17] <bob2> sig: no
[06:17] <reka> snadge: you can use vga=ask  or hardcode it with a value: http://gatos.sourceforge.net/livid-ati/2000-September/msg00206.html
[06:17] <sig> ?
[06:17] <bob2> LokeDK: drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 2005-04-25 17:17 /var/www
[06:17] <ompaul> thoreauputic, and to think that all this hacker culture started with the model railway club in MIT hehe
[06:17] <bob2> LokeDK: those are the defaults
[06:17] <Heimdall> sudo /usr/sbin/lmodmd --country=FRANCE /dev/slamr0
[06:17] <raiden24> I love Ubuntu
[06:17] <sig> bob2: no? why not?
[06:17] <hondje> ompaul: model railways? Really?
[06:17] <Heimdall> => bad country name :d
[06:17] <abbot45> can someone tell me how to install a .deb package?
[06:17] <sproingie> hacker culture predates computers
[06:17] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you need a code i think
[06:17] <bob2> sig: because they're buggy
[06:17] <LokeDK> bob2, oh.. so loke:users would be fine?
[06:18] <snadge> reka: i dont have permission to access that url :/
[06:18] <sig> oh ok
[06:18] <thoreauputic> ompaul: yet no-one has written such a program? tsk tsk
[06:18] <bob2> abbot45: what are you trying to install?
[06:18] <kbrooks> fr\
[06:18] <HappyFool> Heimdall: try slmodemd --countrylist
[06:18] <Heimdall> oh, in the example they write USA
[06:18] <LokeDK> and apache would still work..
[06:18] <bob2> LokeDK: loke:root, yes
[06:18] <ompaul> hondje, I am not barking mad, (pun intented) it did in deed
[06:18] <kbrooks> Heimdall, fr
[06:18] <reka> snadge: http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:Si2iYQwIsjEJ:mail.linux-sxs.org/pipermail/linux-users/2002-September/038107.html+framebuffers+1024x768+vga%3Dask&hl=en
[06:18] <LokeDK> bob2, oh okay thanks.. I'll try that
[06:18] <kbrooks> try fr
[06:18] <Maus> bob2: command not found
[06:18] <bob2> LokeDK: apache doesn't care who owns that directory, as long as it is readable by all
[06:18] <ompaul> hondje, indeed even
[06:18] <abbot45> Pan.  the version bundled with ubuntu keeps crashing.
[06:18] <hondje> ompaul: go figure....that explains a lot though
[06:18] <bob2> Maus: install esound-clients
[06:18] <Heimdall> oh yeah, 3d
[06:18] <bob2> abbot45: did you file a bug yet?
[06:18] <Heimdall> thanks
[06:18] <HappyFool> Heimdall: try slmodemd --country=3d mayne?
[06:18] <abbot45> dont know how.  can you tell me?
[06:18] <hondje> ompaul: Maybe that's why 'hacker culture' doesn't emphasize math so much
[06:19] <HappyFool> Heimdall: so this is more-or-less working?
[06:19] <LokeDK> bob2, Oh I see.. I can write to it now. Thanks for the help
[06:19] <Heimdall> sudo /usr/sbin/lmodmd --country=3d /dev/slamr0
[06:19] <bob2> LokeDK: np
[06:19] <HappyFool> Heimdall: slmodemd, i think
[06:19] <HappyFool> /usr/sbin/slmodemd
[06:19] <Maus> bob2: ok, the command loaded firefox
[06:20] <Maus> bob2: without sound
[06:20] <bob2> hm, oh well
[06:20] <Heimdall> anyway, this is not so important I suppose ?
[06:20] <HappyFool> Heimdall: nah
[06:21] <HappyFool> Heimdall: so modprobe worked, and slmodemd is running?
[06:21] <Heimdall> ok so I'm in 3 section
[06:21] <LokeDK> Oh and one more question.. the php4 package in synaptic/apt-get requires some apache2 packages.. Does the package only work on apache2 then? I only want apache 1.3
[06:21] <TokenBad> ok i unmounted my drive
[06:21] <bob2> LokeDK: no, of course not
[06:21] <TokenBad> to maybe change who owns it
[06:21] <reka> abbot45: install the latest pan manually
[06:22] <Heimdall> modem slamr0 created TTy is /dev/pts/2
[06:22] <bob2> LokeDK: libapache-mod-php4 - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 1.3 module)
[06:22] <Heimdall> use /dev/ttySL0 as modem device
[06:22] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok, so try out your gnome network thingy again
[06:22] <HappyFool> Heimdall: maybe you can just start it and see if there's a 'click' sound, without plugging in the telephone cord
[06:22] <Heimdall> this is it ?
[06:23] <Heimdall> yes
[06:23] <LokeDK> bob2, oh cool.. so apache2-common and apache2-mpm-prefork isn't the whole apache2 server?
[06:23] <HappyFool> Heimdall: this is it
[06:23] <LokeDK> as it requires
[06:23] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: Heimdall this slmodem thing sounds like a PITA to configure...
[06:23] <Heimdall> sorry, PITA ?
[06:23] <HappyFool> thoreauputic: yeah
[06:23] <iratsu> how do i find out what X display depth i'm running at and what graphics drivers i'm running with?
[06:23] <bob2> LokeDK: php doesn't care about either of those packages
[06:23] <HappyFool> thoreauputic: winmodems are a joy
[06:23] <HappyFool> heh
[06:23] <reka> abbot45: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[06:23] <HappyFool> pain in the arse ;)
[06:23] <thoreauputic> Heimdall: pain in the *ss
[06:24] <LokeDK> oh okay bob2 .. thanks a lot again
[06:24] <Heimdall> lol
[06:24] <Maus> bob2: killing esd again brings it back, what exactly did we install and why?
[06:24] <Heimdall> okay :-D
[06:24] <bob2> Maus: nevermind
[06:24] <hellfire> has someone installe Neverwinter Nights on Ubuntu
[06:24] <HappyFool> Heimdall's getting 8Mb adsl next week anyway :P
[06:24] <Heimdall> HappyFool :I have very bad thought
[06:25] <hellfire> copied a windows instalation
[06:25] <HappyFool> some of us are stuck with dial-up
[06:25] <iratsu> hellfire: wow my friend is just doing that right now
[06:25] <HappyFool> Heimdall: what's that?
[06:25] <hellfire> and did what was described in the bioware site
[06:25] <sproingie> how's NWN run on linux anyway?
[06:25] <bob2> Maus: esd = enlightened sound daemon = program which takes control of the sound card and brokers access to it
[06:25] <Heimdall> HappyFool : well ,with the previous driver, it was telling me too that the device was ttySL0
[06:25] <Ninwa> Last I heard WineX ran it great.
[06:25] <sproingie> i've always found NWN to have pretty poor framerates compared to most 3d games
[06:25] <hellfire> i get "segmentation fault " error
[06:25] <bob2> Maus: by killing it, non-esd-aware programs can use the sound card, but only one at a time
[06:26] <Heimdall> and I was puttin ttyS0
[06:26] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yes...
[06:26] <Heimdall> ....
[06:26] <Maus> bob2:  ahhh
[06:26] <HappyFool> Heimdall: doh
[06:26] <Heimdall> lol
[06:26] <Heimdall> it is not my fault entirely
[06:26] <thoreauputic> bob2: the irony of the name "enlightened sound daemon" strikes me all the time...
[06:26] <Frederick> how can I get mosml int ubuntu/
[06:26] <hellfire> does someone now how to fix that error
[06:26] <DunkMaster> helo
[06:26] <HappyFool> Heimdall: that might explain the 'no carrier' ;)
[06:26] <bob2> hah
[06:26] <DunkMaster> question here
[06:26] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i thought you were using /dev/modem ?
[06:26] <sproingie> i thought esd wasn't required when using the alsa mixer?
[06:26] <bob2> in 1997 or whatever, it seemed like a good idea
[06:26] <bob2> sproingie: when using dmix, correct
[06:26] <reka> iratsu: default depth can be found in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, (Section "Screen": DefaultDepth) same with the driver (Section "Device": Driver)
[06:27] <Heimdall> HappyFool : ah yes you're right
[06:27] <DunkMaster> what is a good and low on recources movie player avaliable on apt-get?
[06:27] <sproingie> bob2: so why do people continue to use esd?
[06:27] <Heimdall> and /dev/modem is pointing toward the correct device...
[06:27] <Ninwa> reka, Run xorconfig
[06:27] <Frederick> DunkMaster: xmms
[06:27] <Heimdall> so okay...
[06:27] <thoreauputic> sproingie: this is a good question
[06:27] <St0n3-C0l> my xorg is crashing ..
[06:27] <Ninwa> reka, and setup your xorg settings properly :)
[06:27] <bob2> sproingie: but that requires a) a sound card well supported by alsa, and b) everything to use alsa (any apps using the oss compatibility layer will lock the device to themselves completely)
[06:27] <DunkMaster> xmms plays movie files Frederic?
[06:27] <Ninwa> xorgconfig*
[06:27] <DunkMaster> *Frederick
[06:27] <reka> Ninwa: mine are fine.
[06:27] <sproingie> bob2: but wouldnt that be true whether or not esd is running?
[06:28] <St0n3-C0l> when I start it says not starting correctly...it was workin correctly before I installed gdm from breezy :P
[06:28] <hellfire> has someone managed to deal with the "segmentation fault" error in Neverwinter Nights
[06:28] <hellfire> ??
[06:28] <Ninwa> hellfire, That's a pretty vague question.
[06:28] <Frederick> DunkMaster: not sure, goggle and check their homepage
[06:28] <bob2> hellfire: if you're using cedega, #cedega
[06:28] <Heimdall> HappyFool :can I type ttySL0 ?
[06:28] <hellfire> no i`m not using cedega
[06:28] <DunkMaster> it isnt i just tried Frederick
[06:28] <snadge> reka: does ubuntu _have_ to use framebuffer console?
[06:28] <zimba-tm> hello
[06:28] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you mean, in the gnome setup?
[06:28] <bob2> sproingie: yeah, but most everything in ubuntu's supported section does esd
[06:28] <hellfire> i`m using the Linx client
[06:28] <snadge> i tried setting a normal vga text mode, and it ignores it
[06:28] <Heimdall> yes
[06:28] <HappyFool> Heimdall: /dev/ttySL0 should work
[06:28] <sproingie> bob2: well that's annoying
[06:28] <bob2> sproingie: also, esd works on more cards and dmix
[06:29] <linux_fan> hi can anyone help me?
[06:29] <bob2> sproingie: yes, and will be fixed for hoary
[06:29] <Heimdall> because the programm tells me that the symbolic link is /dev/pts/2
[06:29] <bob2> er, breezy
[06:29] <hellfire> i`ve done what was described in the bioware site
[06:29] <reka> snadge: ah, you don't want a wm?
[06:29] <bob2> linux_fan: you need to ask a question, first
[06:29] <sproingie> bob2: so esd can sit on top of alsa, essentially?
[06:29] <Ninwa> linux_fan, ask your question, dont ask to ask :] 
[06:29] <HappyFool> Heimdall: whatever slmodemd said when you started it
[06:29] <linux_fan> ok
[06:29] <sproingie> bob2: you mean breezy?
[06:29] <bob2> sproingie: yes
[06:29] <hellfire> but i get "segmentation erro" when trying to run the game
[06:29] <Heimdall> so I think this is ttySL0 or /dev/pts/2
[06:29] <bob2> hellfire: do you know anything about programming?
[06:29] <hellfire> no
[06:29] <bob2> (in C)
[06:29] <linux_fan> for some reason, i installed a program, and it doesn't show up in the applications menu
[06:29] <Heimdall> anyway, it don't detect the modem on his own
[06:29] <HappyFool> Heimdall: don't use /dev/pts/2
[06:29] <Heimdall> ok
[06:29] <HappyFool> Heimdall: use /dev/ttySL0
[06:29] <sproingie> hellfire: you mean segmentation fault.  that's a very generic error, it's like the Invalid Page Fault from win9x
[06:30] <reka> isn't quicktime available for linux?
[06:30] <Ninwa> hellfire, Are you certain you installed it correctly? Mayhaps you do not have all of the datafiles in the right place, and its segging because of that
[06:30] <reka> *why isn't
[06:30] <Ninwa> hellfire, but as they said, thats a pretty generic thing, you need to check the crash log
[06:30] <bob2> reka: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:30] <snadge> reka: X can use its own driver.. console should use text mode
[06:30] <bob2> reka: (it is)
[06:30] <unreal> ubuntu download at 84% :)
[06:30] <linux_fan> for some reason, i installed a program, and it doesn't show up in the applications menu
[06:30] <hellfire> i didn`t get any error messages or something similar...
[06:30] <Ninwa> linux_fan, Which application?
[06:30] <bob2> linux_fan: yes, that will happen
[06:30] <snadge> unreal, hoary hedgehog?
[06:30] <Maus> bob2:  Thanks for the help.
[06:30] <Heimdall> HappyFool : aaaaaah
[06:30] <Ninwa> linux_fan, try opening a terminal and typing its name, or creating a launcher on your launch panel
[06:30] <bob2> Maus: np
[06:30] <hellfire> i`ve read that this could be connected with the SDL library
[06:30] <unreal> snadge: forgot which nickname, but it's 5.04
[06:30] <HappyFool> Heimdall: something wirking ?
[06:30] <linux_fan> i can open it in terminal
[06:30] <iratsu> reka: ok, thanks
[06:31] <Heimdall> HappyFool : good news
[06:31] <bob2> Maus: running it under esddsp should have forced it to shore the device
[06:31] <linux_fan> but how do i get it in the menu?
[06:31] <hellfire> they advised to get the latest version
[06:31] <Ninwa> linux_fan, right click on the lanucher panel and create a new launcher
[06:31] <Heimdall> HappyFool : no
[06:31] <Heimdall> BUT
[06:31] <reka> bob2: poorly worded ... why isn't quicktime player availale for linux?
[06:31] <snadge> unreal, yeah thats the one that im trying on my old compaq armada m700 laptop.. it kinda works ;)
[06:31] <linux_fan> ok
[06:31] <HappyFool> Heimdall: heh
[06:31] <Heimdall> it tells me that it does not work
[06:31] <Ninwa> add to panel*
[06:31] <linux_fan> ok
[06:31] <hellfire> but i see only version 1.2.7 for ubuntu
[06:31] <bob2> reka: because apple didn't port it yet
[06:31] <Maus> bob2: but it went right back to how things were before killing
[06:31] <iratsu> how do i find out what graphics drivers i'm running with?
[06:31] <Ninwa> then custom
[06:31] <Heimdall> which is a kind of progress
[06:31] <bob2> Maus: which is odd, I don't know why
[06:31] <thoreauputic> reka: erm - ask Apple?
[06:31] <HappyFool> Heimdall: erm, ok
[06:31] <Ninwa> and you should be able to figure it ou t:)
[06:31] <bob2> iratsu: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:31] <linux_fan> yea
[06:31] <hellfire> whlie the latest version is 1.2.8
[06:31] <linux_fan> thank u
[06:31] <unreal> snadge: heh, the hardware in this machine hasn't had much luck with gentoo or debian.. so I decided to download ubuntu
[06:31] <Ninwa> you're welcome
[06:31] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you going to try plugging in your phone line and see what happens?
[06:31] <Heimdall> I think it could maybe be ok if I try with my phone line
[06:31] <Heimdall> yes
[06:32] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok
[06:32] <snadge> unreal, chances are.. it'll suck just as much ;)
[06:32] <Heimdall> at last
[06:32] <Heimdall> one real hope
[06:32] <HappyFool> Heimdall: good luck (again ;)
[06:32] <Heimdall> :)
[06:32] <Heimdall> yes
[06:32] <Heimdall> lol
[06:32] <Heimdall> brb (again :-D)
[06:32] <unreal> snadge: gentoo borks when trying to boot normally, and the debian partition manager just hangs there when checking for disks
[06:32] <unreal> heh
[06:32] <Maus> bob2: Know if anything relevant to this will be coming in Breezy?
[06:32] <unreal> probably, but at least I'll be able to try it on a machine that I know it'll work with :)
[06:32] <snadge> unreal, ouch.. what kind of a piece of crap are you running it on? :P
[06:32] <lpk> Hmm there was a trick for improving the sampling rate of a mouse
[06:32] <lpk> Does anyone remember?
[06:32] <reka> bob2, thoreauputic: i see.  it's just that i like how you can "scroll" video playback using the arrow keys. ah, well.
[06:32] <bob2> Maus: yes, it should all magically work in breezy (but doesn't yet)
[06:33] <bob2> reka: as in skip backwards and forwards?
[06:33] <thoreauputic> reka: you can do that ith linux players too...
[06:33] <reka> snadge: not sure ... i'm not an expert on that
[06:33] <Maus> bob2:  Really?  Good.  I want to be sure everything's working properly before I start installing Ubuntu for friends and family.
[06:33] <reka> thoreauputic: smoothly though? not in 5 second bursts
[06:33] <bob2> Maus: october it is then ;p
[06:33] <Maus> bob2: w00t
[06:33] <unreal> snadge: lol, wouldn't say it's crap, but it's one of those pre-built bundled machines that I got given.. it still has a warranty so I don't feel like ripping it apart yet
[06:33] <thoreauputic> reka: I haven't tried that, to be honest
[06:34] <Maus> bob2: thanks again
[06:34] <snadge> unreal: ahh yeah.. it'll have a bodgey partition table on it most likely
[06:34] <bob2> np
[06:34] <Frederick> how can I install mosml in ubuntu and FAST?
[06:34] <reka> bob2: well it's more sort of "play forwards" and "play backwards", rather than "skip"  which is what i would prefer.
[06:34] <unreal> snadge: nah, I wiped the drives entirely :)
[06:34] <snadge> unreal, if it came with a rescue disk.. i'd just blow everything away and repartition it
[06:34] <snadge> ahh k
[06:34] <unreal> heh
[06:34] <Frederick> Ive already tried to apt it but it says it has some missing deps
[06:35] <bob2> reka: meh, seems kinda minor; you could suggest ut to the mplayer people
[06:35] <unreal> at the moment i'm booting off the gentoo livecd, not the best way to download a large-ish ISO file :)
[06:35] <Converse> irc.cl
[06:35] <scott> I ran laptop-mode start and changed /etc/default/acpi-support to include sleep, but I still just see hibernate on my logout menu and when I close the lid it doesn't go to sleep
[06:35] <thoreauputic> reka: frankly I prefer vlc on OS-X to quicktime anyway - and it doesn't nag me to buy anything ;)
[06:35] <reka> bob2: not a fan of mplayer really... but enough of my grumbling
[06:35] <sproingie> thoreauputic: you're kidding, quicktime even nags you on OSX?
[06:35] <reka> thoreauputic: true. :-)
[06:35] <snadge> im booting ubuntu off dvd at the moment.. and using it as a very slow rescue disc to fix my debian installation ;)
[06:35] <Frederick> how can I install mosml in ubuntu and FAST?
[06:36] <thoreauputic> sproingie: yep - the one installed is nagware
[06:36] <reka> thoreauputic: i thought you get pro with the os?
[06:36] <bob2> Frederick: why don't you tell us what on earth "mosml" is?
[06:36] <unreal> snadge: heh, I'll be downloading that some other time, downloading at 46kb/s is bad enough right now :)
[06:36] <thoreauputic> reka: I didn't
[06:36] <sproingie> thoreauputic: amazing.  i thought that was just some sleazy thing they did for the windows version
[06:36] <snadge> unreal: I donwnloaded the dvd at about 12k/s :P
[06:36] <Frederick> bob2: http://www.dina.kvl.dk/~sestoft/mosml.html
[06:37] <sens> Can anyone help me install a gkrellm skin?
[06:37] <unreal> snadge: that's fine if you're wanting to get it installed by the end of the year :P
[06:37] <bob2> sens: it really had no instructions?
[06:37] <ompaul> thoreauputic, checked sourceforge.net (been a long time since I needed to do that) and found something
[06:37] <snadge> took about 4 days
[06:37] <thoreauputic> sproingie: well, I hardly ever use OS-X anyway except in mac-on-linux to play windows media occasionally
[06:37] <sens> bob2: I just can't find where to extract the files to
[06:37] <thoreauputic> ompaul: ah - model railways are not totally neglected then ? :)
[06:38] <rcec52> I was wondering why Ubuntu repository is slow to update Mozilla Firefox 1.4 as I understand 1.2 is supposed to be 1.4 with some program bugs?
[06:38] <bob2> rcec52: it's not "slow", it's not going to happen at all
[06:38] <rcec52> Whys that?
[06:38] <ompaul> thoreauputic, almost not neglected I think I will have to build something for dia
[06:38] <thoreauputic> rcec52: the ubuntu version has all the security fixes
[06:38] <rem_> they correct the bugs, but dont update to 1.4 ..
[06:38] <bob2> rcec52: hoary is a stable release; it doesn't get new versions of software.  the fixes from 1.0.4 are in hoary's 1.0.2
[06:39] <thoreauputic> ompaul: yes, dia is a good idea for it :)
[06:39] <reka> ompaul: i love dia
[06:39] <cory_> yay i finally got my gnomebaker to bake!
[06:39] <rcec52> You lost me. . .
[06:39] <styx2004> please tell me how to configure apache with mono-apache-server
[06:39] <bob2> rcec52: which bit of that was confusing?
[06:40] <Frederick> bob2: dis you see my link?
[06:40] <thoreauputic> rcec52: you are hung up on the version number: ubuntu's is updated
[06:40] <rcec52> If you use the version that you download with the repositories, you can't add Mozilla extensions.
[06:40] <bob2> Frederick: yes; try asking on their mailing list, I guess, or install from their binary tarballs.
[06:40] <thoreauputic> rcec52: it just retains the number
[06:40] <bob2> rcec52: yes, it sucks that mozilla have made things like that
[06:40] <reka> rcec52: that's a bug
[06:40] <bionic> safe to put in a pci soundcard while the machine is still running? :p
[06:40] <unreal> heh
[06:40] <abbot45> rcec52, there was a bad vonurability in 1.4 so ubuntu backported to 1.2 but included all the bug fixes from 1.4
[06:40] <rcec52> I've installed 1.04 with all the extensions and it works . . . .
[06:40] <unreal> safe to chop off your leg while you're still alive? ;)
[06:41] <thoreauputic> rcec52: go to about:config, search for vendor string and edit to 1.0.4
[06:41] <reka> rcec52: you have to change vendorSub in about:config iirc
[06:41] <flodine> anyone know how to change aterm font size
[06:41] <jbroome> just once
[06:41] <Frederick> bob2: ive added the repos her
[06:41] <bob2> Frederick: which is broken.  get rid of it.
[06:41] <sproingie> ubuntu's handling of firefox version numbers is ... unique
[06:41] <sproingie> that's the kindest thing i can say about it
[06:41] <Frederick> bob2: but apt is beeing gay and complaining
[06:41] <Frederick> bob2: the dep is broken
[06:41] <rcec52> Anyone here have more than 1 os installed?
[06:42] <sproingie> Frederick: so find apt a partner, maybe he can go live with aptitude
[06:42] <Frederick> rcec52: I do
[06:42] <unreal> 25mins to go until I find Ubuntu borks for me too :P
[06:42] <bob2> Frederick: a) try to act like an adult, b) that means you can't install from it
[06:42] <thoreauputic> rcec52: of course
[06:42] <bob2> Frederick: so go get the tarball and install from that
[06:42] <sproingie> what the fuck is it that a supposedly intellectual community uses "gay" as an insult
[06:42] <bob2> sproingie: what else could ubuntu do?
[06:42] <hondje> sproingie: I don't know, but I agree it's wrong
[06:42] <rcec52> Maybe I'm crazy but I've got Mepis on one drive and Kubuntu on another? Doesn't make sense does it?
[06:42] <hondje> Why not say 'omg, _____ is so female' too
[06:42] <Frederick> sproingie: oh sorry
[06:43] <Frederick> sproingie: im in a hurry
[06:43] <St0n3-C0l> Please respect Code OF Conduct of Ubuntu Linux :>
[06:43] <HappyFool> sproingie: how can a supposedly intellectual person judge a community by an individual ? ;)
[06:43] <St0n3-C0l> Someone said me once...now im saying u guys :P
[06:43] <sproingie> HappyFool: i see it over and over
[06:43] <Frederick> HappyFool: point taken
[06:43] <bob2> sproingie: ubutnu has unfortunately attracted a large pre-teen contingent
[06:43] <unreal> snadge: you still around? :)
[06:43] <sproingie> bob2: i suppose that's true for the whole geek/hacker culture as well
[06:43] <iratsu> what's the difference between restricted and multiverse?
[06:44] <rcec52> Anyone here good at programing?
[06:44] <snadge> unreal: yes
[06:44] <sproingie> rcec52: some of us like to think so
[06:44] <unreal> heh
[06:44] <rcec52> What are you using?
[06:44] <unreal> you have any idea why ubuntu 5.04 was given a name similair to prostitute?
[06:44] <bob2> iratsu: restricted is just drivers, basically
[06:44] <veronica> im setting up raid and i get a adm:error opening /dev/md0  nosuch file or directory.......please help!
[06:44] <HappyFool> heh
[06:44] <bob2> unreal: #lame-trolls, kthxbye
[06:44] <iratsu> bob2: ah, ok
[06:44] <unreal> bob2: is that your channel? :)
[06:44] <bob2> iratsu: but it does get "support"
[06:44] <sproingie> unreal: c'mon, hoary ... read your hp lovecraft
[06:45] <bob2> haha
[06:45] <Jester> Does anyone know of a debian-based installation cd or distribution that includes dmraid ? (to support bios based software raids such as nforce3)
[06:45] <ThE__OnE> where can i find installation help for ubunntu
[06:45] <rcec52> Breezy comes out in October?
[06:45] <sens> Extraction not performed You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/usr/share/themes/AgingGorilla/metacity-1"   How do I extract it through the terminal?
[06:45] <bob2> rcec52: yes
[06:45] <ThE__OnE> where can i find installation help for ubuntu*
[06:45] <bob2> ThE__OnE: by asking politely here
[06:45] <snadge> unreal, thats a good question.. i'd like to know that too.. apart from it really does suck on my laptop
[06:45] <rcec52> What will it include?
[06:45] <unreal> lol
[06:45] <HappyFool> sproingie: maybe 6.04 will be the 'Cuddly Cthulhu' (err, spelling?) release!
[06:45] <ThE__OnE> i did ask politely
[06:45] <scott> anyone know what file you have to setuid to be able to change clock speed as normal user with gnome applet?
[06:45] <thoreauputic> unreal: dict hoary
[06:45] <bob2> ThE__OnE: you haven't asked a question yet...
[06:45] <ThE__OnE> yes i have
[06:45] <sproingie> HappyFool: you spelled it right.  great idea :)
[06:45] <unreal> it's a nice name though, never thought a hedgehog could be a whore though, too prickly for my liking :)
[06:46] <snadge> unreal, it should be called "hoary slapper"
[06:46] <bob2> rcec52: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals
[06:46] <snadge> :P
[06:46] <reka> sens: use sudo.  you normally don't have write permission for any folders other than the ones in ~/
[06:46] <bob2> ThE__OnE: and what did you ask?
[06:46] <sproingie> still, pronouncing "hoary" out loud makes most people think of a different word
[06:46] <sproingie> not too literate, folk these days
[06:46] <ThE__OnE> can someone please tell me where(website)i can find help instaling, i dont have a specific question because i have'nt installed ubuntu as of yet
[06:46] <rcec52> Thanks bob2
[06:46] <sproingie> ThE__OnE: right HERE
[06:46] <bob2> ThE__OnE: you can ask for help here
[06:46] <sens> reka: sorry, i only installed 2 weeks ago and after 15 years of windows i'm not too good, i know the sudo, you generally put it in front of everything, but what would i have to type exactly?
[06:46] <hondje> sproingie: That's for the 12-15 demographic :)
[06:46] <sproingie> ThE__OnE: you can also try ubuntu forums
[06:47] <ThE__OnE> hmm i cant come here when iam instaling
[06:47] <veronica> im setting up raid and i get a adm:error opening /dev/md0  nosuch file or directory.......please help!
[06:47] <Zunino> Hi there. Does anybody here deal with typing a latin language on a US-layout keyboard?
[06:47] <ThE__OnE> lol
[06:47] <erb> hello
[06:47] <rcec52> Anybody have problems installing Adobe reader7.0?
[06:47] <reka> sens: easy option: sudo nautilus
[06:47] <sens> ok
[06:47] <reka> sens: otherwise, i'd have to know what kind or archive file it is
[06:47] <Frederick> bob2: im trying the tarball
[06:47] <sens> reka: thanks
[06:47] <sproingie> ThE__OnE: i used to come to the channel when installing all the time.  you going to say you can surf the forums when installing?
[06:47] <Zunino> I have got it working for the most part. The real issue is with typing a ''
[06:47] <reka> *kind of
[06:48] <thoreauputic> rcec52: no, because I didn't install it on the principle that Adobe sucks as a company
[06:48] <ThE__OnE> i dont have 2 pc's
[06:48] <reka> sens: hang on
[06:48] <reka> sens: you can install themes by dragging the file to the theme box iirc
[06:48] <ThE__OnE> nvm, i will search online
[06:48] <sproingie> ThE__OnE: the installer does not have a built-in web browser that i'm aware of.  i did it with many a reboot on a dual-boot system
[06:48] <reka> sens: archives included
[06:48] <reka> sens: non need to extract it
[06:48] <ThE__OnE> does that mean i haev to do that?
[06:48] <thoreauputic> time to sleep - 'night all
[06:48] <bob2> good idea
[06:48] <ThE__OnE> gnite
[06:48] <rcec52> That's not an answer I was expecting I guess . . .
[06:48] <Zunino> US layout with dead keys, anyone?
[06:49] <Heimdall> HappyFool : :'(
[06:49] <veronica> can anyone here help me with a raid issue?
[06:49] <snadge> how do i boot ubuntu in console mode only?
[06:49] <snadge> like a rescue disk mode.. without X
[06:49] <reka> rcec52: hehe.  what's wrong with xpdf?
[06:49] <unreal> sproingie: what's the best way to trim nose hair?
[06:49] <unreal> heh, jk ;)
[06:49] <digao> hey, how can i add new items to the ubuntu menu?
[06:49] <bob2> rcec52: if your real question was "I'm having problem foo bar baz when installing Acrbate 7.0...", best to just ask that upfront
[06:49] <sproingie> unreal: blowtorch.  it'll never bother you again
[06:49] <unreal> lol
[06:49] <rcec52> Sorry for asking. . .
[06:49] <reka> digao: google smeg
[06:50] <sproingie> seriously, don't get too close to a propane torch when you have the sniffles.
[06:50] <sproingie> one good sniffff and ... ow
[06:50] <sproingie> clears ya right up tho
[06:50] <Razor-X> ;)
[06:50] <Razor-X> Jumping Jacks do too
[06:51] <sens> reka: how do i do that, you may as well be speaking swahili I don't understand :P
[06:51] <Seveas> snadge, choose recovery mode from the boot menu
[06:51] <snadge> seveas: what recovery mode
[06:51] <reka> sens: sys->prefs->themes
[06:52] <reka> sens: and then, iirc, just drag the .gz file to the box
[06:52] <Seveas> snadge, when you boot, you get a menu. You can choose recovery mode there. If you do not get a menu edit /boot/grub/menu.lst as root and increase the value for timeout
[06:52] <snadge> Seveas, i have a menu.. its the dvd version of hoary
[06:52] <snadge> from the help screens i just cant figure out what option to use
[06:52] <Seveas> ah, ok. I thought you ment an installed system
[06:52] <Seveas> meant*
[06:52] <nalioth> reka ya teaching foreign languages now?
[06:53] <snadge> Seveas, no.. installed system is borked, i want to recover data off it
[06:53] <sens> reka: Do you mean I can just load up to sudo nauticus and drag the file over?
[06:53] <reka> nalioth: only swahili
[06:53] <digao> reka, ill look for it thanks
[06:53] <reka> sens: don't even need to use sudo
[06:53] <Frederick> does ubuntu has bzip vy default?
[06:53] <snadge> and the live version.. is also borked, keeps crashing .. display doesnt work correctly ;)
[06:53] <sens> reka: gottit i think
[06:53] <Seveas> snadge, I have no experience with the live dvd, but if there is a menu that says "single" or "recovery mode" you can use that to not go to X
[06:53] <unreal> snadge: you could just mount the disk and copy it elsewhere? :)
[06:53] <reka> sens: it worked?
[06:53] <snadge> unreal: its in a laptop
[06:54] <unreal> copy 1mb chunks to a floppy disk? :/
[06:54] <sens> reka: nope
[06:54] <sens> I went to: usr/share/themes created a file called milk and extracted it all to there
[06:55] <sens> reka: but then i go to gkrellm and change themes and it doesn't come up
[06:55] <snadge> im hoping it accepts "single" as a boot option
[06:55] <snadge> and doesnt try to boot into X
[06:55] <reka> sens: ah, gkrellm themes?  i thought you were talking about gnome
[06:56] <unreal> snadge: if all else fails, you could try another livecd (the gentoo one is pretty decent from my experience) and upload the data somewhere
[06:56] <crimsun> Frederick: yes.
[06:56] <sens> nono, gkrellm themes
[06:56] <snadge> unreal: i have some boot floppies
[06:57] <reka> sens: why didn't you say so? :-P http://www.dersoldat.org/gkrellm.php
[06:57] <reka> follow that.
[06:57] <pfp> Fabian: lo, how're things?
[06:57] <pnpa_> i tried to install Ubuntu in my Gateway/server. This gateway is connected to LAN with a 20+ clients. What is the best way/tool to share/broadcast the Internet connection of this Gateway? That will automatically assign an IP address to clients.
[06:57] <snadge> rescue linux or something
[06:57] <Frederick> crimsun: doesnt looks like thou
[06:57] <HappyFool> Heimdall: success?
[06:58] <crimsun> Frederick: erm, dpkg -l libbz2-1.0|grep ^ii
[06:58] <pfp> pnpa_: you probably want dhcpd, and some iptables rules
[06:58] <crimsun> Frederick: are you trying to compile something that requires bzip2?
[06:58] <sens> reka: I did :P
[06:58] <pnpa_> pfp, how to do that ? it was just my first time to install and seen Linux
[06:58] <crimsun> Frederick: if so, you need to install libbz2-dev
[06:59] <reka> sens: and?
[06:59] <Frederick> crimsun: tryin to unzip a package
[06:59] <sens> reka: what does ~/.gkrellm2/themes directory mean
[06:59] <reka> sens: ~ is your home directory
[06:59] <crimsun> Frederick: unzip or bunzip2?
[06:59] <sens> the ~/.gkrellm2?
[06:59] <LinuxJones> pnpa_, maybe you would be better off with a Linux distribution that is designed for such a purpose like Smoothwall
[06:59] <sens> reka: ok
[06:59] <Frederick> crimsun: unzip
[06:59] <snadge> BG Rescue linux
[07:00] <crimsun> Frederick: then install unzip.
[07:00] <crimsun> Frederick: unzip != bunzip2
[07:00] <sproingie> Smoothwall++
[07:00] <sens> reka: if i go to home, there isn't a file called .gkrellm2 or a folder
[07:00] <LinuxJones> pnpa_, it has a nice gui for configuration >> http://www.smoothwall.org/about/screenshots/
[07:01] <reka> sens: type ls -a and look for a gkrellm directory
[07:01] <pfp> pnpa_: do an 'sudo apt-get install dhcpd', the default configuration has handy examples (are you familiar with dhcp?)
[07:01] <pnpa_> LinuxJones, u mean i have to uninstall this Ubuntu ?
[07:01] <pnpa_> pfp, in Windows
[07:01] <sens> nothing, it just comes up with my username
[07:01] <pfp> pnpa_: windows?
[07:01] <sens> reka: nothing it just comes up with my username
[07:02] <reka> sens: type cd ~
[07:02] <reka> then do ls -a
[07:02] <pnpa_> i only know about dhcp in Windows
[07:02] <sens> found it
[07:02] <LinuxJones> pnpa_, well it would be much easier than setting up all of the services you need manually using Ubuntu.
[07:02] <reka> sens: what's it called?
[07:03] <sens> well there's a -gkrellm2
[07:03] <pfp> pnpa_: there are also firewall distros that boot from a cd and can keep their configuration on a floppy, so you don't need to install anything... but nothing wrong with using ubuntu imho
[07:03] <sens> reka: there's a -gkrellm2
[07:03] <pfp> pnpa_: ach, k
[07:03] <reka> sens: try putting ~/-gkrellm2 in the nautilus address bar
[07:04] <sens> reka: it doesn't have an address bar
[07:04] <veronica> can anyone here help me with a raid issue?
[07:04] <reka> sens: right click on a directory and then select browse
[07:04] <Shish> Is there a GUI app that lets you run a single program in a different locale?
[07:05] <sens> reka: Couldn't find "/root/-gkrellm2".
[07:05] <Razor-X> Shish: you mean, different language?
[07:05] <Razor-X> veronica: shoot
[07:05] <reka> sens: cause you used sudo
[07:05] <digao> reka, you know a repository with the smeg package? i didn't find it in the www.apt-get.org, thanks
[07:05] <HansZ> hmm.. I just wanted to compile mplayer, however it says: 'bitypes.h not found see...FAQ (nothing in the faq about that)'
[07:06] <reka> sens: type /home/<username>/-gkrellm2
[07:06] <Heimdall> HappyFool : sorry, phone
[07:06] <Razor-X> digao: sudo apt-cache search smeg
[07:06] <Heimdall> no.... it has failed
[07:06] <reka> digao, Razor-X : it's not in there iirc
[07:06] <Shish> Yes~ When logging in with GDM I can select a language for all of GNOME to use, but I'd rather log in in english then have specific apps in other languages
[07:06] <reka> need to install it manually
[07:06] <HansZ> Is there a ubuntu mplayer package?
[07:07] <Exodus> Hello, can anyone tell me where is the ubuntu cd distribution located?
[07:07] <Razor-X> then, download and compile ;)
[07:07] <Razor-X> Shish: not sure how, sorry
[07:07] <lpk> what is fbmmx.o?
[07:07] <Razor-X> Exodus: they give you links on the site
[07:07] <lpk> my x cries about missing symbols
[07:07] <Heimdall> HappyFool : and worst, i have uninstall, make clean, and do ti again
[07:07] <sens> reka: same message
[07:07] <digao> Razor-X, reka, yeah, i didn't find the smeg in the apt-cache too
[07:07] <veronica> im setting up raid and i get a adm:error opening /dev/md0  nosuch file or directory.......please help!
[07:07] <Heimdall> HappyFool : but it does not want to do 'modprobe slamr' anymore
[07:07] <Razor-X> lpk: not sure meself, google it
[07:07] <Exodus> Razor-X, i mean physical location
[07:07] <lpk> Pain in the ass googling with a elinks
[07:07] <Razor-X> digao: download a binary .deb, or download source and compile
[07:07] <Razor-X> Exodus: locate fbmmx.o
[07:07] <bob2> HansZ: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats (yes)
[07:07] <Exodus> I live in Venezuela, i'd like to know around how long would it take for the cd's to arrive.
[07:07] <bob2> Exodus: when did you order?
[07:07] <Razor-X> and if it's not there, try sudo updatedb
[07:07] <Exodus> just now.
[07:08] <Razor-X> and then try locate again
[07:08] <reka> sens: close nautilus, then places->home
[07:08] <sens> reka: I found it man
[07:08] <bob2> Exodus: give it a few weeks
[07:08] <Exodus> Venezuela (south america) :P
[07:08] <unreal> 18:07:11 (49.48 KB/s) - `ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso' saved [615307264/615307264]  <-- :)
[07:08] <reka> ah, ok
[07:08] <sens> reka: found the themes directory
[07:08] <Exodus> more then a month?
[07:08] <sens> when i went to it in nautilus i didn't put the ~ at the stary
[07:08] <reka> sens: cool, you can handle the rest then.
[07:08] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hmm
[07:08] <HappyFool> what error do you get?
[07:08] <HansZ> bob2: doesn't help me
[07:09] <sens> reka: hopefully, i'll come back here if i can't :P
[07:09] <bob2> HansZ: except that it does
[07:09] <HansZ> bob2: except it does
[07:09] <reka> sens: no worries
[07:09] <bionic> Is it possible to get sound from two soundcards when i have headphones in just one of them? :)
[07:09] <Exodus> Razor-X, bob2, thanks for answering my questions. :)
[07:10] <HansZ> bionic: yea
[07:10] <digao> Razor-X, i found this in the ubuntu forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38183 there is a link to a debian package for smeg. thanks
[07:10] <jbroome> what an unfortunate package name
[07:10] <bionic> HansZ, how? They are both enabled now, the one the headphones are in is using /dev/dsp, the other /dev/dsp1, but when i run xmms on dsp1 i get no sound in the headphones
[07:11] <HansZ> bionic: hm.. have u unmuted dsp1
[07:11] <hughsie> Anyone want to ask questions about gnome-power-manager? I'm the dev.
[07:11] <verveeld> i'm back. Anyone watch the SA v France rugby?
[07:12] <verveeld> I'm busy waiting for ubuntu to finish installing on my laptop
[07:12] <kong0> can anybody pls help this poor linux newbie on where to get a good site for linux warez?
[07:12] <HappyFool> heh
[07:12] <bionic> HansZ, yeah its not muted, doesnt show it in volum controls at least
[07:12] <sens> how do i edit what loads up in the startup of linux?
[07:12] <HappyFool> linux warez?
[07:12] <jbroome> hahahahaha
[07:12] <jbroome> hahaha
[07:12] <HappyFool> try synaptic
[07:12] <HappyFool> System -> Adminstration -> Synaptic
[07:12] <HappyFool> lots of warez there
[07:12] <jbroome> it's right next to the linux spyware cleaners and virus scanners
[07:12] <sens> lol
[07:12] <verveeld> jbroome: lol
[07:12] <ompaul> jbroome, now you are joking
[07:12] <synd> hey guys, got a nicecast running. electronic music: http://139.55.46.63:8000/playlist.pls
[07:12] <reka> HappyFool: no warez distribution please. :-P
[07:13] <nalioth> jbroome: yes, it does raise some eyebrows (re pkg name)
[07:13] <kong0> hmm something tells me i didnt give a good inpression...
[07:13] <ompaul> you kill me you do
[07:13] <HappyFool> reka: this is 1337 l3g4l warez
[07:13] <nalioth> kong0: linux warez? linux software is mostly free, or open-source
[07:13] <verveeld> My Ubuntu installation is on Configuring apt 75%, testing security update repository... its taking quite a while... is this normal
[07:13] <kong0> not thoose server os from suse and red hat
[07:14] <HappyFool> kong0: seriously, there's lots of applications available to install from synaptic
[07:14] <ompaul> kong0, fire up synaptic and you will get all the useful programs you can ever need (except for railways but it appears I may be working on that)
[07:14] <kong0> ok where were synaptic?
[07:14] <sens> synd: I would listen toy our music but i get this error message: There is no element present to handle the stream's mime type audio/mpeg.
[07:14] <HappyFool> System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[07:14] <ompaul> system - administration - syanptic
[07:15] <kong0> thx man
[07:15] <synd> sens: hmm
[07:15] <lambert> re hello
[07:15] <sens> synd: I can listen to the other radio station that's already on there
[07:15] <kong0> i installed ubuntu on this laptop o' mine bout one hour ago...
[07:16] <ompaul> kong0, enjoy
[07:16] <kong0> hehe
[07:16] <waseem> is anyone else having problems getting the update for gaim?
[07:16] <bionic> HansZ, you know what the problem may be?
[07:16] <lambert> pouvez vous me donner l l'URL de chat de ubuntu .fr?s'il vous palit
[07:16] <reka> lambert: #ubuntu-fr
[07:17] <lambert> merci
[07:17] <synd> sens: ive got a couple listeners.. it seems to work for them..
[07:17] <lambert> goodbye
[07:17] <sens> synd: maybe it's just me then :P I'm a linux n00b
[07:17] <kong0> did u guys get azureus going?
[07:18] <reka> waseem: what problems?
[07:18] <kong0> i didnt even understand how to install it...
[07:18] <ompaul> kong0, why when we have native bittorrent
[07:18] <nalioth> kong0: you need java
[07:18] <nalioth> !Java
[07:18] <ubotu> hmm... java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[07:18] <waseem> reka: i tried to do apt-get install gaim and its telling me that it couldnt get the stat source package list from ftp.nerim.net/blahbbalfdhh
[07:18] <kong0> hmm im not familiar with native...
[07:19] <kong0> i know and i couldnt install jawa
[07:19] <unreal> would anyone here have the cdrecord source by any chance?
[07:19] <ompaul> kong0, there is a bittorrent client already on the machine
[07:19] <waseem> reka: i never get the update in the update manager so i thought i would have to do it manually
[07:19] <microhaxo> WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!
[07:19] <nalioth> unreal: its not avalable at jeorgs page?
[07:19] <kong0> native huh... is it as good as bittornado or?
[07:19] <microhaxo> IM CONVINCED THAT LINUX IS DESTROYING MY WINDOWS!
[07:19] <unreal> nalioth: jerog is the creator of it?
[07:20] <unreal> er, jeorg even
[07:20] <thr1ce> linux won't touch your windows unless you tell it to
[07:20] <sens> how do I edit what loads up on the startup of ubuntu?
[07:20] <microhaxo> I go to boot up windows on a SEPERATE HD and it says THAT THE DAMN winlogin.exe cannot be found all these fkin dlls not found
[07:20] <reka> microhaxo: at least your doors are ok.
[07:20] <nalioth> unreal: thought jeorg schilling was the author (google cdrecord homepage)
[07:20] <microhaxo> that shit dont happen by its self..
[07:20] <ompaul> microhaxo so is bill gates
[07:20] <kong0> hmm i dont know...the grudge between linux and windows is greater...kidding*
[07:20] <unreal> heh
[07:20] <thr1ce> microhaxo, yes, it does happen by yourself; you probably did something
[07:20] <microhaxo> Bs
[07:20] <microhaxo> what could i have done
[07:20] <verveeld> ok install finished. yest!
[07:20] <thr1ce> you tell us
[07:20] <verveeld> yes
[07:21] <jbroome> boot loader problem?
[07:21] <microhaxo> i have been runnin linux only
[07:21] <microhaxo> for days
[07:21] <DagaZ> how do I put a pause in a bashscript?
[07:21] <microhaxo> and i booted to windows this mornin
[07:21] <reka> waseem: i'm not familiar with gaim, but are you sure there is a package for the latest one in the repos?
[07:21] <microhaxo> played CSS
[07:21] <microhaxo> and booted back to linux
[07:21] <microhaxo> and now i want to play CSS again
[07:21] <microhaxo> windows cannot load
[07:21] <microhaxo> cant find winlogin.exe
[07:21] <microhaxo> and a shitload of DLLS
[07:21] <microhaxo> im pissed
[07:21] <thr1ce> linux won't touch that HDD unless you do it yourself
[07:21] <sens> microhaxo: can you not put in your windows cd and do a repair?
[07:21] <unreal> nalioth: ty though :)
[07:21] <microhaxo> I DONT HAVE WINDOWS CD NE MORE
[07:21] <jbroome> i'd blame steam before i blamed linux. :)
[07:21] <TokenBad> hondje, I got my upload problems fix..people can upload now..and they can't leave their home dirs
[07:22] <TokenBad> and they can resume files to
[07:22] <sens> microhaxo: even the warzed copies have a repair you know
[07:22] <thr1ce> mmm...I suspect pirated windows
[07:22] <hondje> TokenBad: awesome :)
[07:22] <microhaxo> i dont have warez
[07:22] <microhaxo> haha
[07:22] <microhaxo> its not pirated
[07:22] <microhaxo> i have my cdkey and all
[07:22] <microhaxo> oem windows
[07:22] <thr1ce> and you got rid of the CD ?
[07:22] <microhaxo> but the cd is cracked
[07:22] <sens> microhaxo: sure you don't, in that case, may I ask where your windows cd is?
[07:22] <TokenBad> yeah finally
[07:22] <microhaxo> ITS CRACKED
[07:22] <jbroome> yarrr matey, yee windows 'tus fux0rd
[07:22] <microhaxo> got it in 2001
[07:22] <microhaxo> ARG
[07:23] <sens> lol @ jbroome
[07:23] <kong0> whats the windoes program emu named? genges or sumthin...?
[07:23] <thr1ce> maybe downloading another...?
[07:23] <kong0> its like wine but better...
[07:23] <sens> microhaxo: maybe it's time you became a pirate and downloaded yourself another copy so you can do a repair, it's the only way you're going to fix it
[07:23] <HansZ> can someone help me downgrading gcc?
[07:24] <nalioth> microhaxo: as long as you have a license, you can have as many CDs as you like
[07:25] <sens> @ nalioth, they're not even sure on that anymore, you can't backup cd's anymore
[07:25] <HappyFool> kong0: you mean maybe cedega?
[07:26] <kong0> cedega yeah that must be the one
[07:26] <LokeDK> Why is there a /etc/init.d/apache2 when i use /etc/init.d/apache ..?
[07:26] <kong0> can i get cedega in synaptic?
[07:26] <ekCo> i cant compile anything
[07:26] <nalioth> kong0 cedega is payware
[07:26] <ekCo> it says install has nothing to do
[07:26] <ekCo> etc
[07:26] <nalioth> ekCo: install 'build-essential'
[07:26] <kong0> and another question... is kde good?
[07:27] <kong0> u mean it? i have to pay?
[07:27] <nalioth> kong0: "is kde good?" is chevrolet good?
[07:27] <jbroome> those BASTARDS!
[07:27] <thr1ce> kong0, lol, that's purely a matter of opinion
[07:27] <jbroome> nalioth: kde: yes.  Chevy: no. :)
[07:27] <kong0> well chevrolet IS good...
[07:27] <ekCo> nalioth, ??? what do you mean?
[07:27] <thr1ce> kong0, it depends who you ask
[07:27] <kong0> depends on how u look at it..
[07:27] <thr1ce> kong0, they have more releases than gnome, so many like that
[07:28] <kong0> well well, gnome is easy so i'll just stick to that
[07:28] <thr1ce> but, you'll run into bugs occassionally
[07:28] <ompaul> thr1ce, just less often than some other platforms, so it just seems to be worse when you find one :)
[07:28] <nalioth> ekCo: do you have gcc and other development pkgs installed?
[07:29] <ekCo> think so
[07:29] <CANDY_Y> hallo everyone;)
[07:29] <HappyFool> ekCo: if make says 'nothing to do' it usually means its already done it, afaik
[07:30] <kong0> wich is the best media player then?
[07:30] <ekCo> lol this is the first time trying
[07:30] <reka> kong0: what car is the best?
[07:30] <Tomcat_> kong0: xine and mplayer
[07:30] <kong0> hmm depends on wether u have enough money to buy fuel...
[07:31] <Tomcat_> kong0: But reka is right, it depends on your needs... I use totem although it has not many features, but I like the simplicity.
[07:31] <sens> why do i keep getting unexpected end of streams when i'm listening tothe radio?
[07:31] <mactiny> well, there are good cars and then there are bad cars
[07:31] <ekCo> nalioth, make: Nothing to be done for `INSTALL'.
[07:31] <kong0> k...
[07:31] <ekCo> etc etc
[07:31] <ompaul> kong0, and I use xmms - but that is because I have choice
[07:31] <nalioth> ekCo: what exactly are you trying to install?
[07:31] <kong0> i use xmms for music
[07:32] <Tomcat_> kong0: It's all free software, so just test everything out for a while. :)
[07:32] <nalioth> ekCo: and how are you going about it?
[07:32] <ezuser> Hey Everyone
[07:32] <nalioth> pfp: don't waste your time on that gnome-waste-bittorrent
[07:32] <kong0> theres to much...
[07:32] <kong0> im shutting down synaptic...
[07:32] <ekCo> logitech applet
[07:32] <reka> kong0: listen to Tomcat_.  we can recommend stuff, but we can't tell you which is the best b/c we all have dfferent opinions.
[07:32] <Tomcat_> pfp: Azureus is really the way to go. :o
[07:33] <jeroen_> Tomcat_, no, it uses Java
[07:33] <pfp> nalioth: yep, back to azurus (once i'll fix my java installation)
[07:33] <nalioth> !Java
[07:33] <ubotu> [java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[07:33] <ekCo> nalioth, ./configure --prefix=/usr, then make
[07:33] <Tomcat_> jeroen_: Yeah but my new system is fast enough to handle it... makes no difference if it's running or not.
[07:33] <ekCo> but make does nothing, the same with make install
[07:33] <ekCo> nothing is regged
[07:33] <nalioth> ekCo: some programs don't work like that (from source)
[07:33] <nalioth> ekCo: did you read the readme?
[07:34] <kong0> how do u see how much RAM im using? i can see cpu...
[07:34] <jeroen_> Tomcat_, Java is non-free, that's the point. It's called the Java trap. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html
[07:34] <thr1ce> free
[07:34] <thr1ce> run free
[07:34] <reka> kong0: top
[07:34] <Tomcat_> kong0:  Apps => System => System monitor
[07:34] <thr1ce> or vmstat
[07:34] <ompaul> kong0, use the command free
[07:34] <ekCo> yes
[07:34] <thr1ce> or top
[07:34] <ekCo> it says nothing
[07:34] <pfp> yeah, java is annoying, but azureus seems still the best client for linux
[07:34] <ekCo> just what mouses it covers etc
[07:34] <ekCo> so/
[07:34] <ompaul> kong0, use the command top / vmstat ohh look choices :)
[07:34] <Tomcat_> jeroen_: Oh you were referring to that... yeah it's not the best way indeed, but I have to develop on Java anyway.
[07:34] <ekCo> what can i do
[07:34] <ekCo> ?
[07:34] <kong0> ahh man i dont even know where to type in the commands
[07:35] <ompaul> kong0, so we show you
[07:35] <nalioth> ekCo: read the readme that comes with and maybe the INSTALL
[07:35] <sens> where do i edit what loads up on startup?
[07:35] <TokenBad> how know how much free space is per mounted drive?
[07:35] <Tomcat_> TokenBad: "df"
[07:35] <eyequeue> kong0:  applications > system tools > terminal
[07:35] <pfp> TokenBad: df -h
[07:35] <thr1ce> df -m
[07:35] <nalioth> ekCo: what EXACTLY are you trying to do?
[07:35] <kong0> ompaul: hwat do u mean?
[07:35] <thr1ce> well, you need to find a terminal
[07:35] <TokenBad> thanks
[07:36] <thr1ce> applications, system, terminal
[07:36] <ekCo> compile and install logitech_applet
[07:36] <ompaul> kong0,  applications - system tools - terminal <-- this is where you type commands
[07:36] <ekCo> :)
[07:36] <ezuser> I've just installed 5.04 on my laptop. Whenever I startup or shutdown the system the whole screen goes to a variety of colours.  I guessing this is when X is starting/stopping but does anyone have any ideas what is causing this or how to fix it. TIA
[07:36] <Tomcat_> ekCo: That was pretty easy for me... just make, make install I think.
[07:36] <unreal> lol
[07:36] <unreal> not good, I have the gentoo livecd in my dvdrw drive, and can't eject it :P
[07:36] <kong0> aight ompaul
[07:36] <mark__> hi all, I've just installed the new 1.0.4 firefox in Ubuntu. (Ran the installer) but now I can't middle click to close tabs, anyone know why?
[07:36] <thr1ce> unreal, eject /dev/hdXX
[07:37] <X7C> anyone knows about DLINK wifi pci card support on ubuntu?
[07:37] <ekCo> thats what i've done tomcat
[07:37] <ekCo> and nothing happens
[07:37] <X7C> will the thingie work?
[07:37] <thr1ce> umount /dev/hdXX
[07:37] <eyequeue> unreal:  umount it
[07:37] <reka> mark__: dd you set it in prefs?
[07:37] <ompaul> kong0, some commands should only be run by root - the 'superuser' to do this on the same menu you can choose 'root terminal' however stay away from that until you have a bit of experiance - you can break the system pretty badly there if you make a mistake
[07:37] <microhaxo> Ok
[07:37] <microhaxo> officially
[07:37] <microhaxo> this is pissing me off
[07:37] <kong0> man...i didnt think ubuntu would use so much ram..
[07:37] <Tomcat_> ekCo: I'd go through the unpacking and compiling process with you, but I'm on the run. I think others can help you, it's easy to compile.
[07:37] <microhaxo> windows is FCKED!
[07:37] <thr1ce> microhaxo, yes, you've said that
[07:37] <microhaxo> yea
[07:37] <reka> microhaxo: then join a windows channel
[07:37] <microhaxo> well in case you havent noticed
[07:38] <microhaxo> windows COSTS MONEY..
[07:38] <microhaxo> dammit
[07:38] <X7C> i dreamt with breezy yesterday xD
[07:38] <ompaul> microhaxo, yes that is why we all choose Linux
[07:38] <microhaxo> lol
[07:38] <microhaxo> but
[07:38] <thr1ce> i would say piracy is fine in this case
[07:38] <thr1ce> you've purchased it
[07:38] <mark__> reka, no don't think. In the firefox preferences?
[07:38] <ekCo> nalioth, pm
[07:38] <thr1ce> download a corp. XP cd :)
[07:38] <microhaxo> yea i have the cd key
[07:38] <benito01> necesito charlar
[07:38] <microhaxo> the real one'
[07:38] <reka> mark__: yes, i'd try that.
[07:38] <ompaul> thr1ce, no I would say it is a motive to move
[07:38] <microhaxo> Eh
[07:38] <microhaxo> i like Linux alot
[07:38] <microhaxo> but
[07:38] <ompaul> microhaxo, you really don't need that other stuff
[07:38] <microhaxo> I NEED my games
[07:38] <microhaxo> lol
[07:38] <kong0> i have a couple of windows*s
[07:38] <mark__> ok I'll try that. thanks reka
[07:38] <microhaxo> i have an X800 xt pe
[07:38] <microhaxo> that isnt for gnome to look good
[07:39] <microhaxo> its for Windows to play kick ass games
[07:39] <eyequeue> lamers
[07:39] <unreal> brb, rebooting :)
[07:39] <benito01> microhaxo
[07:39] <microhaxo> yea
[07:39] <eyequeue> i mean gamers
[07:39] <pfp> kong0: gnome (and kde) use a lot of ram, XFCE should be lighter
[07:39] <kong0> thats something i dont like...there isnt much games to linux....
[07:39] <djm62> microhaxo: fair enough...but this really isn't the place to be discussing windows (btw, are you buying games for linux and letting the publishers know?)
[07:39] <benito01> que paso microhaxo
[07:39] <microhaxo> ahh
[07:39] <microhaxo> EVERY
[07:39] <microhaxo> game i dload
[07:39] <microhaxo> doesnt work
[07:39] <microhaxo> on linux
[07:40] <thr1ce> stop
[07:40] <thr1ce> breaking up
[07:40] <thr1ce> your sentences
[07:40] <benito01> microphaxo no hablas en espaol
[07:40] <microhaxo> some bs error, saying i dont have 3d rendering and then Enemy territory i dont know what the hell is wrong with that
[07:40] <HappyFool> benito01: /join #ubuntu-es
[07:40] <microhaxo> c
[07:40] <thr1ce> did you install the ATI drivers?
[07:40] <microhaxo> yea
[07:40] <thr1ce> run fglrxinfo
[07:40] <microhaxo> i can play Tuxracer
[07:40] <microhaxo> fine
[07:40] <microhaxo> its all there
[07:40] <thr1ce> does it say ATI ?
[07:40] <microhaxo> glxgears
[07:40] <microhaxo> 7000fps
[07:40] <eyequeue> too annoying to stay
[07:40] <microhaxo> yes it does
[07:41] <thr1ce> ouch
[07:41] <benito01> happyfool que paso hablas espaol
[07:41] <hondje> microhaxo: glxinfo | grep server looks 'bout what you'd expect?
[07:41] <pfp> kong0: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 <- games
[07:41] <djm62> microhaxo: press return less frequently, for all our sakes
[07:41] <HappyFool> benito01: i do not speak spanish
[07:41] <microhaxo> lol, ill keep that in mind
[07:41] <HappyFool> benito01: /join #ubuntu-es
[07:41] <wouterl> where does ubuntu keep the xf86config file? can't find it ...
[07:41] <hondje> hablan espanol en #ubuntu-es
[07:41] <benito01> i sorry happy fool
[07:41] <HappyFool> wouterl: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:41] <microhaxo> however CEDEGA has the worst ass proformance, not to mention i cant get shit installed on this x64 release..
[07:41] <thr1ce> wouterl, it uses xorg
[07:41] <djm62> wouterl: ubuntu doesn't use xf86... /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:41] <nalioth> benito01: hablamos espanol en #ubuntu-es
[07:41] <thr1ce> try looking for xorg.conf :)
[07:41] <wouterl> it's the warty ...
[07:42] <fetman> can somebody please help me with my sound?
[07:42] <benito01> nalioth bueno quiero charlar
[07:42] <hondje> nalioth: -amos? estas en #ubuntu-es tambien?
[07:42] <albacker> guys can someone give me a repo to get acroread 7 ??
[07:42] <thr1ce> should be in /etc/X11
[07:42] <HappyFool> wouterl: ah. /etc/X11/XF86config, i think -- or maybe XF86Config
[07:42] <zxxxzz> how do i set wireless network for ubuntu?
[07:42] <wouterl> tnx
[07:42] <zxxxzz> im using the live CD
[07:42] <kong0> i thought cedega was the best...
[07:42] <signius> WooHoo i just ordered all the kit to build my full on m0nowall setup :-)
[07:43] <zxxxzz> just trying it out
[07:43] <nalioth> benito01: hondje , yo habla muy poquito tex-mex
[07:43] <benito01> nalioth sos hombre o mujer
[07:43] <Teddanson> hey does ubuntu use xorg by default ?
[07:43] <djm62> kong0: best is when companies release linux native versions ;)
[07:43] <hondje> nalioth: ah, 10-4 good buddy :)
[07:43] <djm62> Teddanson: yep
[07:43] <benito01> no importa
[07:43] <HappyFool> Teddanson: ubuntu 5.04 (and onwards, no doubt)
[07:43] <benito01> soy de nicaragua
[07:43] <nalioth> hondje: put on barbed-wire underwear
[07:43] <hondje> 'sos'? Who uses 'sos'?
[07:43] <kong0> ok...NOW i understand what u ppl mean with native...
[07:44] <albacker> can someone please give me a repo to get acroread 7 ?
[07:44] <nalioth> benito01: ?esta no personas en #ubuntu-es?
[07:44] <zxxxzz> how do i set wireless network for ubuntu? im using the "Ubuntu Live" . any one knows how to do it?
[07:44] <djm62> kong0: there are a few already, notably unreal tournament for the last two releases, and doom III
[07:44] <kong0> and what a world it would be if companies made games for linux all the time
[07:44] <djm62> kong0: and if you let publishers know you like to play on linux, and have spent money on linux games, they will
[07:44] <benito01> nalioth bueno se me termina el tiemp otro dia charlamos
[07:45] <HappyFool> yeah, we'd have 100 more people complaining about their games not working here
[07:45] <nalioth> benito01: sorry, no comprende
[07:45] <signius> LOL @ HappyFool
[07:45] <synd> check out my nicecast - http://139.55.46.63:8000/playlist.pls
[07:45] <kong0> cool....however i dont really spend money on games...or OS...or anything except candy
[07:45] <synd> :>
[07:45] <Bauhn> I need help with uninstalling GRUB and/or Ubuntu so windows boot normally (the way it were when i installed windows). anyone who can help me?
[07:45] <nalioth> Bauhn: fdisk your /mbr
[07:46] <nalioth> Bauhn: any boot disk will do (that has fdisk on it, of course)
[07:46] <Bauhn> nalioth, i really suck on this, so please.. explain?
[07:46] <djm62> kong0: welcome to the ranks of the economically disenfranchised ;)
[07:46] <kong0> bauhn i saw some good froums for thoose kind of problems b4...search for linux forums
[07:46] <nalioth> Bauhn: insert a ubuntu livecd or knoppix livecd
[07:47] <kong0> hahaha i feel like home already
[07:47] <Bauhn> nalioth, ok.. and then?
[07:47] <mark__> I can't see anything in firefox about the middle-click to close tabs
[07:47] <nalioth> Bauhn: or even a windows 95 boot floppy
[07:47] <Bauhn> nalioth, ok. but when the cd boots up, what should i do?
[07:47] <DagaZ> I made a little script for easy install of pure-ftpd http://dagaz.zapto.org/pureinstall <-- any comments are welcome
[07:47] <nalioth> Bauhn: open a terminal and type "fdisk /mbr" and that will clean grub off the mbr and you can have windows back (gettin linux back is alittle more complicated)
[07:48] <Bauhn> nalioth, i'm going to throw away the linux-hdd anyways..
[07:48] <nalioth> Bauhn: ok, then, that should fix you up
[07:48] <HappyFool> nalioth: does 'fdisk /mbr' work on the ubuntu livecd ?
[07:49] <kong0> hmm i just remebered i have nvn on cd...
[07:49] <Bauhn> Unable to open /mbr
[07:49] <Bauhn> root@allrummetgoesLAJNUX:/home/bauhn #
[07:49] <kong0> however...i kinda need daemon tools (or linux version of it?)...
[07:49] <microhaxo> pure BS
[07:50] <Bauhn> nalioth, what should i do now?
[07:50] <nalioth> HappyFool: i'm not sure, i always have my knoppix with me on house-calls
[07:50] <djm62> kong0: is that neverwinter nights? they have a linux version
[07:50] <HappyFool> nalioth: ok, so fdisk /mbr works with knoppix? ;)
[07:50] <nalioth> Bauhn: ya got an old win98/98 boot floppy around?
[07:50] <Bauhn> nalioth, no, but i think i can fix a live-cd
[07:51] <nalioth> Bauhn: probably quicker (if you have a floppy drive and floppy) to go to bootdisk.com
[07:52] <Bauhn> nalioth, but i'm on "Dreamhack" right now, and dont have any floppys with me. so that's a problem
[07:52] <kong0> yes...but i think i have windows version...does it work on both?
[07:52] <Bauhn> so i'll go with the live-cd
[07:52] <djm62> kong0: I think you download a small file, then use the same CD key and game data
[07:52] <kong0> djm63: how do you write TO me so the color is red?
[07:52] <kong0> cool
[07:52] <Bauhn> do you think it'll work with a windows cd and from there run something from DOS?
[07:52] <nalioth> Bauhn: dreamhack?
[07:53] <ivanox> Dreamhack is the worlds biggest LAN
[07:53] <Bauhn> nalioth, worlds largest computer festival.. but anyways.. do you think it will work?
[07:53] <microhaxo> Yo
[07:53] <microhaxo> what is a good FILE BURNING SOFTWARE?!
[07:53] <nalioth> Bauhn: a rescue console from a win_nt_based cd will have a proggy called 'fixmbr' i believe this does what you want
[07:53] <thr1ce> microhaxo, stop talking in caps
[07:53] <microhaxo> lol
[07:53] <djm62> kong0: I imagine your irc client looks out for your /nick in a line, so if I start a line with your nick it highlights it
[07:53] <kong0> nero...haha dont know in linux...
[07:53] <nalioth> microhaxo: lose the caps, bud
[07:53] <microhaxo> lol
[07:53] <microhaxo> aight
[07:53] <thr1ce> nero works in linux for one
[07:54] <kong0> cool
[07:54] <microhaxo> never again will you see caps from me
[07:54] <hondje> microhaxo: use nautilus
[07:54] <DagaZ> kong0: use loop.. check the ubuntuguide
[07:54] <microhaxo> nero isnt free
[07:54] <thr1ce> or dd
[07:54] <thr1ce> :)
[07:54] <Bauhn> nalioth, so i run DOS and typ "fixmbr" and everything will work fine after that?
[07:54] <hondje> microhaxo: open nautilus, click places, and cd/dvd creator
[07:54] <kong0> shouldnt u have the same client? it was included
[07:54] <microhaxo> k
[07:54] <microhaxo> is it already installed?
[07:54] <kong0> natice or what u call it
[07:54] <djm62> microhaxo: k3b is good, nautilus will burn data, gnome-baker will burn data and audio
[07:54] <nalioth> Bauhn: if you have a plain dos thing (like freedos) use fdisk /mbr
[07:54] <microhaxo> i need data
[07:54] <Lie-Algebra> hi, i figured out i should add "reboot=b" to the kernel comand line so that my laptop reboot properly, how do i do that?
[07:54] <djm62> microhaxo: if you literally want to burn files, that's a hardware thing
[07:54] <LDM> I like K3B for burning, but it's a KDE app... should be able to get it working under gnome thought.
[07:54] <microhaxo> what?
[07:54] <microhaxo> lol
[07:55] <nalioth> if you boot from a win2k/winXP bootable cd, choose rescue mode and go to rescue console
[07:55] <veronica> im setting up raid and i get a adm:error opening /dev/md0  nosuch file or directory.......please help!
[07:55] <nalioth> LDM: k3b works fine under gnome
[07:55] <Bauhn> nalioth, yes. and from there just type "fdisk /mbr"?
[07:55] <thr1ce> k3b is the most developed burnign software for gui, i think
[07:55] <microhaxo> where is use nautilus stored?
[07:55] <nalioth> Bauhn: then use fixmbr
[07:55] <djm62> microhaxo: nautilus is the file manager
[07:55] <microhaxo> ah
[07:56] <hondje> k3b makes no sense to me
[07:56] <hondje> Why so many buttons?
[07:56] <nalioth> Bauhn: the NT kerneled boot disks dont have fdisk, but fixmbr
[07:56] <Bauhn> nalioth, sorry if i'm dumb, but i just dont want to change hdd's one more time. so boot from the cd, rescue console, fixmbr, reboot?
[07:56] <kong0> can i install windoes drivers somehow on this linux? i cant find any knew...
[07:56] <nalioth> hondje: there are buttons in k3b?
[07:56] <mikas> is it possible to make the cd/dvd-burner of gnome a bit more verbose?
[07:56] <Teddanson> does ubuntu offer a way to choose between wireless networks in range via gui?
[07:56] <djm62> microhaxo: onmy system, if I insert a blank CD, it automatically brings up nautilus for CD burning
[07:56] <microhaxo> lol
[07:56] <microhaxo> let me see
[07:56] <nalioth> Bauhn: if you are using a win2k/winXP boot cd, yes
[07:56] <kong0> i have ibm thinkpad t40...
[07:56] <hondje> nalioth: seems over-done to me
[07:56] <Bauhn> nalioth, sweet. thanks for your help and have a nice day
[07:57] <microhaxo> elite
[07:57] <microhaxo> :D
[07:57] <djm62> (I didn't set that up, it Just Worked, but YMMV)
[07:57] <nalioth> my god i'm talking about windows.. i must be sick
[07:57] <mark__> does most RPM's work with ubuntu?
[07:57] <thr1ce> microhaxo, :)
[07:57] <Octane> when will the openoffice2.org amd64 packages be fixed? :)
[07:57] <nalioth> mark__: most of em
[07:57] <thr1ce> mark__, of course not
[07:57] <thr1ce> mark__, gotta get them to deb first
[07:57] <nalioth> thr1ce: not even with alien?
[07:58] <djm62> mark__: in general, assume not...it's worth a try if there's no alternative
[07:58] <thr1ce> i would say it's a last resort...converting CAN go bad
[07:58] <djm62> mark__: there aren't many things you can't get in deb format, especially if you add some extre repositories
[07:58] <kong0> whats the best programme for bin and image emulation?
[07:59] <thr1ce> bin2iso :)
[07:59] <thr1ce> then loop it
[07:59] <kong0> like alcohol120%
[07:59] <djm62> thr1ce: does nautilus do that automatically?
[07:59] <thr1ce> i don't think so...but i'm sure you'll find a bin to iso converter on freshmeat
[07:59] <kong0> djm62:
[07:59] <nalioth> kong0: binchunker
[08:00] <nalioth> thr1ce: is bin2iso on sourceforge?
[08:00] <kong0> where in synaptics could i fin that?
[08:00] <nalioth> woops
[08:00] <nalioth> slow fingers, thr1ce
[08:00] <djm62> thr1ce: I meant the loopback stuff...last time I used that, it involved being root
[08:00] <microhaxo> dammit
[08:00] <microhaxo> i think im going to have to setup my 2600 in a second box just for linux
[08:00] <microhaxo> because
[08:00] <microhaxo> windows is FUBAR..
[08:01] <kong0> whats fubar?
[08:01] <HappyFool> german
[08:01] <thr1ce> yes, mounting an iso requires root / sudo
[08:01] <microhaxo> fked up beyond recognition
[08:01] <djm62> microhaxo: windows isn't designed to work with other OSes...things go better if you keep it simple and separate
[08:01] <HappyFool> for badly broken
[08:01] <microhaxo> it is seprerate
[08:01] <microhaxo> on a SEPERATE HD
[08:01] <microhaxo> i dont get it
[08:01] <GNULinuxer> kong0, fubar == whatever ... just rubbish
[08:02] <djm62> thr1ce: why is that?
[08:02] <kong0> ok
[08:02] <thr1ce> djm62, it's just like mounting a CD or HDD
[08:02] <kong0> where do i get my hands on binchunk...pls dont say synaptrics cus i cant find a thing there...
[08:02] <sens> I thought it was spelt foobar
[08:03] <thr1ce> google?
[08:03] <djm62> thr1ce: certainly mounting it at kernel level, that's obvious, but why can't user-space tools interpret the contents of an ISO and let you get files off it?
[08:03] <GNULinuxer> sens, that's an alt spelling
[08:03] <Teddanson> does ubuntu=debian with better hardware detection?
[08:04] <sens> GNULinuxer: alt as in old? I learnt the word from my dad so....yeah it would be fairly old
[08:04] <hondje> Teddanson: Seems about the same to me, actually
[08:04] <nalioth> kong0: proper name for it is "binchunker"
[08:04] <GNULinuxer> sens, alt as in alternative
[08:04] <sens> GNULinuxer: orite, thanks
[08:04] <kong0> maaaaan, i havent installed a single driver on this linux...
[08:04] <djm62> Teddanson: ubuntu is a more desktop-focussed
[08:04] <kong0> i dont hink a can play music and games and such...
[08:04] <microhaxo> if someone can get CEDEGA WORKING i will stay with linux
[08:05] <sens> @kong0, neither have I, not sure if I need any drivers
[08:05] <microhaxo> cuz i need meh games
[08:05] <microhaxo> lol
[08:05] <bob2> microhaxo: if you've paid for it, transgaming will be happy to help
[08:05] <Octane> Cerberus, crowbar swinging idiots ring a bell?
[08:05] <thr1ce> microhaxo, lots of people use cedega
[08:05] <bob2> kong0: of course you can have listen to music
[08:05] <Cerberus> Octane yeah it does
[08:05] <Octane> Cerberus I am [CSI] Octane!
[08:05] <Cerberus> cool
[08:05] <Octane> do you remember me??
[08:05] <djm62> microhaxo: yeah...cedega is something you can demand help for from the manufacturers
[08:06] <Cerberus> Octane not really man
[08:06] <sens> anyone here used BUM? Boot-Up Manager?
[08:06] <kong0> bob2: i havent installed my motherboard
[08:06] <Octane> Cerberus, okay wrong guy then :)
[08:06] <GNULinuxer> sens, http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/F/FUBAR.html
[08:06] <forsaker8k6> mmm... is it normal that choosing from grub the entry of the kernel in recovery mode (the one that is autogenerated by ubuntu), starts a console with root acces without asking any password?
[08:06] <dell500> "ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: MD5Sum mismatch" i get this error when i do sudo apt-get update and it also happens in synaptic
[08:07] <thr1ce> doesn't look a ubuntu mirror to me...
[08:07] <nalioth> dell500: us.archives are foobared at the moment
[08:07] <kong0> well im off downloading some music or such...
[08:07] <sens> GNULinuxer, yeah because foobar was obviously the correct way, hence they've put the definitionunder it
[08:07] <nalioth> dell500: update your sources.list by removing the us. from all lines starting with us.
[08:07] <GNULinuxer> sens, i agree
[08:08] <nalioth> dell500: or don't use marillat
[08:08] <sens> GNULinuxer, good good, could you give me some help possibly?
[08:08] <dell500> what's marillat??
[08:08] <nalioth> dell500: the URL you just posted is marillat
[08:08] <thenuke> dell500: debian repository for mplayer and something :)
[08:08] <kong0> OK DUDES...SERIOUS TROUBLE....i cant eject my dvd drive!!
[08:08] <forsaker8k6> no ideas about what i asked?
[08:08] <thr1ce> are you using it?
[08:09] <kong0> no man i press the button and nothing happens
[08:09] <Bauhn> nalioth, haha, i'm back ;P It didnt work to boot from the cd. GRUB loaded directly.. can i fix it?
[08:09] <thr1ce> kong0, because it's mounted
[08:09] <sens> kong0, right click the icon on the desktop and go to eject
[08:09] <kong0> how do i unmount?
[08:09] <thr1ce> run the command "eject /dev/hdXX"
[08:09] <GNULinuxer> sens, about what?
[08:09] <HappyFool> Bauhn: you'll probably need to tell your bios to boot from cd first
[08:09] <djm62> kong0: something (probably nautilus) is "in" the directory, so you can't eject it while in use.  find the icon, right-click on it, and you should be able to select eject or unmount
[08:09] <thr1ce> as I had advised earlier... :)
[08:09] <Bauhn> HappyFool, how do i do that?
[08:09] <scott> sometimes when I switch songs or jump forward in movies I hear this awful screach. how do I get rid of that?
[08:09] <kong0> ahhh man got paniced there for awhile thx dudes
[08:09] <nalioth> Bauhn: i'm not sure if you can fdisk the /mbr from inside a running box
[08:10] <forsaker8k6> sudo umount /media/cdrom, kong0
[08:10] <asase> dell500 or just compile it :) it's so easy: try google: ubuntu multimedia howto
[08:10] <HappyFool> Bauhn: at a guess, during boot, press 'DEL' to get to bios setup, selected .. um. 'Advanced BIOS options', and edit the boot device order there -- it should be sort of obvious
[08:10] <nalioth> anyone know how Bauhn can nuke his /mbr?
[08:10] <myren> why do so many packages lack a description?
[08:10] <bob2> you never want to nuke your mbr
[08:10] <bob2> myren: e.g.?
[08:10] <thr1ce> um
[08:10] <forsaker8k6> what do you mean for nuking his mbr?
[08:10] <dell500> does it matter if it doesn't respond/work??
[08:10] <kong0> i had it on my desktop so i couldnt eject it...just right click...thx all
[08:10] <Varanger> is there any way I can force ALSA to use another IRQ for a card?
[08:10] <thr1ce> cat /dev/random > /mbr ?
[08:10] <thr1ce> something like that?
[08:10] <sens> GNULinuxer, my music, if i put a cd in all my music shows up. as .mp3's, which they are, i think. but if i try to play the file i get told 'There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///media/cdrom0/Gorillaz%20-%20Demon%20Days/02%20gorillaz%20-%20last%20living%20souls.mp3", you might need to install the corresponding plugins'
[08:10] <myren> xmms-itouch, xfmedia, &c &c
[08:10] <nalioth> Bauhn: there ya go, many people who know more than i
[08:11] <thr1ce> or dd with /dev/random
[08:11] <thenuke> dell500: try this command:  gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 && gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -
[08:11] <bob2> sens: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:11] <thenuke> dell500: that should get marillat working
[08:11] <myren> oh, thats aptitude being weird, i'm sorry
[08:11] <nalioth> bob2 baugh is tired of linux and wants his windows back w/o grub in the way
[08:11] <ilba7r> is there any RSS feed for ubuntu that i can add?
[08:11] <dell500> thanks thenuke
[08:11] <dell500> thenuke, will it conflict with anything??
[08:11] <Bauhn> thr1ce, can you explain more excactly?
[08:11] <scott> is marillat = hoary-extras?
[08:11] <bob2> no
[08:11] <thenuke> dell500: should not conflict.
[08:11] <GNULinuxer> sens, yeah right
[08:12] <thr1ce> Bauhn, did that work?
[08:12] <HappyFool> Bauhn: thr1ce was, i hope, joking there
[08:12] <thr1ce> HappyFool, that wouldn't wipe the mbr?
[08:12] <Bauhn> HappyFool, i'll try your way. I'll be right back
[08:13] <sens> bob2, thanks man.
[08:13] <orangey> hey all!
[08:13] <Varanger> is there any way I can force ALSA to use another IRQ for a card?
[08:13] <orangey> for some reason, when I do ssh -L port:host:port location , it won't let me do it! it's a virgin install of ubuntu.. are there any options that need to be enabled?
[08:13] <thr1ce> or
[08:14] <thr1ce> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda count=1
[08:14] <Shish> orangey: error message?
[08:14] <forsaker8k6> anyway boyz.. i've found a weird thing about security that leaves me a bit concerned...
[08:14] <thr1ce> don't run that anyone else
[08:14] <nalioth> orangey: that's weird
[08:14] <GNULinuxer> sens, http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[08:14] <forsaker8k6> can i ask?
[08:14] <thr1ce> did he leave?
[08:14] <HappyFool> forsaker8k6: we're all ears
[08:14] <LinuxJones> forsaker8k6, of course you can ask
[08:14] <HappyFool> thr1ce: yip
[08:14] <thr1ce> damn
[08:14] <orangey> bind: Cannot assign requested address
[08:14] <nalioth> orangey: but i think its supposed to be ssh -L 5900:127.0.0.1:5900 user@target.machine  (or somethign like that)
[08:14] <orangey> channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 5900
[08:14] <orangey> Could not request local forwarding.
[08:14] <orangey> nalioth: tried that too..
[08:15] <thr1ce> HappyFool, ah
[08:15] <forsaker8k6> starting from grub the autogenerated entry of the kernel in recovery mode,
[08:15] <dell500> thenuke, i think that worked :)
[08:15] <dell500> thanks
[08:15] <HappyFool> maybe something's listening on port 5900 already?
[08:15] <thr1ce> HappyFool, why wouldn't that work?
[08:15] <forsaker8k6> gives the user a terminal with root access
[08:15] <forsaker8k6> O_O
[08:15] <nalioth> orangey: so wahts the error msg?
[08:15] <forsaker8k6> without asking passwords i mean
[08:15] <HappyFool> thr1ce: he wants a windows mbr, not an arbitrarily broken one
[08:15] <orangey> nalioth: as above
[08:15] <HappyFool> forsaker8k6: physical access to the machine == compromised, more or less
[08:16] <thr1ce> HappyFool, oooh...I thought he just wanted to wipe it and reinstall windows
[08:16] <kong0> i had a good question...dammit cant remember
[08:16] <HappyFool> forsaker8k6: i believe ubuntuguide.org gives some hints on improving security
[08:16] <nalioth> orangey: you've already got something listening on that address. try another one or find out whats running
[08:16] <forsaker8k6> so it is normal, right?
[08:16] <orangey> nalioth: I've tried 5-10 different port nums.
[08:16] <orangey> 2222, 5901, 5555, etc.
[08:16] <HappyFool> forsaker8k6: if you are truly concerned, store all your personal data in an encrypted form. and get a wire cage or something to work in
[08:16] <Teddanson> will Tv-out on an intel extreme 2 work with the default vga driver?
[08:16] <battlecat> Hi out there. I will soon be losing my DSL connection (LOL I cant wait!) I will be going to a dialup that I have for free! :) Is there any way to download a few CDs of progs for Ubuntu so that I would not have to worry much about downloading from the repositories when I am on dialup?
[08:16] <nalioth> thr1ce: bin2iso is java-based
[08:16] <forsaker8k6> lol
[08:17] <thr1ce> nalioth, don't like that?
[08:17] <Shish> forsaker8k6: yes; if an attacker the physical ccess to choose "recovery mode" from grub, passwords won't stop them
[08:17] <nalioth> orangey: well, this is out of my league atm
[08:17] <nalioth> thr1ce: some people don't run java
[08:17] <orangey> nalioth: doh!
[08:17] <dell500> thenuke, ya, it still errored on the marillat server
[08:17] <orangey> that's very not good..
[08:17] <orangey> does ubuntu somehow firewall by default?
[08:18] <nalioth> orangey: nope
[08:18] <forsaker8k6> the problem starts if the attacker is my happy friend who wants to make a little joke
[08:18] <forsaker8k6> :P
[08:18] <nalioth> orangey: ubuntu HAS a firewall, but by default it does nothing
[08:18] <HappyFool> forsaker8k6: see ubuntuguide.org -- it has tips for this sort of thing
[08:18] <Bauhn> HappyFool, It didn't work, and now i dont have a clue what i should do
[08:18] <forsaker8k6> ok tnx i'll do
[08:18] <Lafitte-> streamtuner is nice :)
[08:18] <orangey> nalioth: what firewall?
[08:18] <HappyFool> Bauhn: you can't get the machine to boot from the cd at all?
[08:19] <orangey> nalioth: what about access? Should I be some other user?
[08:19] <nalioth> orangey: the one in every linux distro .. .. ..iptables
[08:19] <orangey> ; )
[08:19] <Bauhn> HappyFool, no. Grub bites as soon i pass the first boot-screen
[08:19] <thenuke> dell500: hmmh
[08:19] <nalioth> orangey: you should have access to ssh just fine as yourself
[08:19] <orangey> nalioth: well, apparently something is wrong : )
[08:19] <zoofields> I was reading the forum and noticed something about cameras automounting themselves
[08:20] <zoofields> so I gave it a whirl, but mine doesn't seem to do it
[08:20] <zoofields> Do I need to configure something or apt-get something extra?
[08:20] <nalioth> orangey: you probably have several wild ssh tunnels running in your system
[08:21] <orangey> nalioth: it's a virgin ubuntu install..
[08:21] <orangey> nalioth: but how can I track them down?
[08:21] <Bauhn> Anyone who can help me get rid of GRUB and so that windows boots automaticly by default?
[08:21] <zoofields> Anyone know anything about automounting and cameras????
[08:21] <thr1ce> Bauhn, pop in a windows CD and run fixmbr
[08:21] <nalioth> Bauhn: probably easier at this pint to boot into linux and edit the grub.conf
[08:22] <Bauhn> nalioth, i'm in linux right now
[08:22] <HappyFool> Bauhn: if you cannot boot from CD, you are rather out of luck, imo
[08:22] <hondje> zoofields: I stick my camera in, and it mounts :)
[08:22] <signius> Bauhn You dont need to get rid of grub you just need to change the default boot option of grub
[08:22] <djm62> AH-ha! coaxed quake3 into working
[08:22] <nalioth> orangey: "ps -e|grep ssh"
[08:22] <reka> Bauhn: you want to get rid of linux?  or you just want windows to boot by default?
[08:22] <signius> Bauhn if you delete grub you wont be able to boot into linux
[08:22] <nalioth> Bauhn: then edit your grub.conf, change windoze to the primary boot and run the time down to a quick number
[08:22] <zoofields> hondje:  well, isn't that lucky ;)
[08:23] <hondje> zoofields: yes, it rocks :) What's up ?
[08:23] <Bauhn> signius, i know, and that's what i want
[08:23] <nalioth> Bauhn: doenst want linux anymore
[08:23] <signius> and thw windows boot loader only recognises windows OSs
[08:23] <orangey> ubuntu:~$ ps -e|grep ssh
[08:23] <orangey>  7484 pts/3    00:00:00 ssh
[08:23] <reka> djm62: how big is the client install file?
[08:23] <orangey> nalioth: for you : )
[08:23] <nalioth> orangey: i'm totally lost now
[08:23] <zoofields> hondje:  I don't know, it auto mounts usb memory drives
[08:23] <Bauhn> nalioth, but i'm going to remove this harddrive and can not start anything without this one at the moment
[08:23] <djm62> reka: 40-ish megabytes
[08:23] <kong0> what is motif linux, gtx linux and ppc linux?
[08:23] <hondje> zoofields: but not your camera?
[08:23] <Bauhn> becuase grub is loaded first
[08:23] <zoofields> hondje:  yeah for some reason not the camera
[08:24] <reka> kong0: wikipedia
[08:24] <hondje> zoofields: tail /var/log/messages show anything useful?
[08:24] <nalioth> Bauhn: unless you can get a mddos boot floppy.. .. ..
[08:24] <djm62> reka: at least, the demo version, but it's way out of date...I had to pretend to be using old libGL and ignore a few errors on the script
[08:24] <eliyahu> ubuntu is super
[08:24] <kong0> ok..what is wikipedia?
[08:24] <zoofields> hondje:  I was excited becaue I could never get it to work in Mepis, which is one of the reasons I'm trying ubuntu now
[08:24] <ThE__OnE> someone tell me why this is? I told the partioner of Ubuntu to leave 20 gigs for winxp but when i installed winxp, it only had 18.6gig all togetther. any ideas?
[08:24] <reka> djm62: ah.  i meant the linux port.
[08:24] <Bauhn> nalioth, i'll try
[08:25] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: that is correct. partitioners cant' do math well
[08:25] <GNULinuxer> ThE__OnE, 20 Gigs is 18.x Gig in windows
[08:25] <zoofields> hondje:  yeah I tried that and it ended with libgphoto2: loaded successfully
[08:25] <djm62> reka: less that 40 MB, seeing as the demo has to contain the game engine
[08:25] <ThE__OnE> ahh ok
[08:25] <reka> kong0: http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/
[08:25] <^thehatsrule^> LOL
[08:25] <hondje> zoofields: plug it in and run 'gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h'
[08:25] <zoofields> hondje:  ok
[08:25] <eliyahu> i like ubuntu because is very nice
[08:25] <D1> this isn't ubuntu related, but would you guys opt for a $3 d-link router with 802.11b instead of g?
[08:25] <reka> djm62: cool, i'll get around to running q3 some day
[08:26] <D1> its advertised at compusa
[08:26] <Bauhn> but there isn't anyway to remove grub from a terminal or something?
[08:26] <kong0> how do i install zip files? all i get is a folder and then i cant open the files...?
[08:26] <signius> its not partitioners cant do math its that manufacturers are naughty about how they claim the size of a HDD also you lose of the total raw capacity due to formatting etc
[08:26] <djm62> reka: the .pak takes up the vast majority of installed space, so I guess the engine is less that 10MB
[08:26] <eliyahu> apt-get install unzip
[08:26] <reka> kong0: you don't install zip files.  they're archives
[08:26] <signius> some of thtr total*
[08:27] <nalioth> D1 only $3?
[08:27] <nalioth> D1 at that price does it matter?
[08:27] <zoofields> hondje:  wow that worked, thanks alot!!!!
[08:27] <signius> They cannot give you a formatted HDD drive capacity as they dont know what youll format your HDD with and some FileSysterms have more overhead than others
[08:27] <hondje> zoofields: okay, time for the fun part bud :)
[08:27] <kong0> and how do i install the stuff that are in the archives then?
[08:27] <nalioth> Bauhn: there is a way from the terminal, but i dont know it
[08:28] <hondje> zoofields: go to system -> preferences -> removable drives and media
[08:28] <Bauhn> nalioth, ok
[08:28] <reka> kong0: depends on what it is.  what are you trying to install?
[08:28] <zoofields> hondje:  ok
[08:28] <signius> I would AVOID DLINK kit at all costs it rubbish
[08:28] <kong0> binchunker
[08:28] <mm23> in most cases you can just sudo apt-get whatever you need... be sure to add universe and multiverse, though
[08:28] <D1> $3 after rebate of course
[08:29] <signius> DLINK & also BELKIN is nasty hardware and you get what you pay for generally with Hardware
[08:29] <hondje> zoofields: click on the multimedia tab, and add gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h to the digital camera section, and click the 'import digital photographs' checkbox, then you 'should' have that run whenever you connect
[08:29] <nalioth> D1 you can always sell @ profit, if it does prove to be rubbish
[08:29] <mypapit> signius, what would you suggest then after i avoiding DLINK..
[08:29] <z00kus> There we go.
[08:29] <reka> kong0: why not use the repos? sudo apt-get install bchunk
[08:29] <mypapit> signius, what would you suggest then after i avoid DLINK..
[08:29] <signius> on the budget side of things i like Netgear and also Linksys
[08:29] <mypapit> signius, aa.. Linksys
[08:29] <orp> i
[08:29] <signius> i like the Draytek routers
[08:29] <z00kus> So i have a question
[08:29] <Bauhn> Anyone here who knows how i could remove grub from the terminal?
[08:29] <zoofields> hondje:  I got an error message saying that I didn't have the "hald" applet
[08:29] <signius> very capable kit at a reasonable price
[08:30] <mm23> I have a Netgear card and router, they work great, although I have to use ndiswrapper
[08:30] <z00kus> How long does it usually take for the Ubuntu CD's To ship?
[08:30] <orp> yap
[08:30] <kong0> reka: im completely new on this OS and now i wonder what repos is...
[08:30] <z00kus> I have a few companies i need to distribute them too and alot of stores/friends
[08:30] <reka> !repositories
[08:30] <signius> on a budegt also Buffalo stuff seems to work very wel
[08:30] <ubotu> I heard repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:30] <hondje> zoofields: open a terminal and run 'sudo /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart
[08:30] <nalioth> mypapit: and walmart sells linksys stuff under another brand (same hardware, different label)
[08:30] <signius> and buffalo seems very linux friendly most of the time also
[08:30] <mm23> stupid people making 5325029520 fancy mp3 visualization plugins for XMMS or something instead of actually writing drivers
[08:30] <orp> some one use gmplayer
[08:30] <hondje> nalioth: 'network everywhere'
[08:30] <mypapit> oh..
[08:30] <kbrooks> ping
[08:30] <hondje> nalioth: it rocks, solid network cards fro $12
[08:31] <orp> i am with a problems it crach
[08:31] <HappyFool> z00kus: you can probably find someone local to dowload it for you for a small fee, if you're in a hurry
[08:31] <reka> kong0: only install stuff manually (i.e. from "zip" files) when you can't find the program in the repos
[08:31] <signius> I wasnt aware Linksys made kit for anyone else
[08:31] <HappyFool> z00kus: try a internet cafe, for example, or use google
[08:31] <nalioth> hondje: i know, i have several, but atm they are buried and in the other room and i can/t read their labels
[08:31] <z00kus> no no no
[08:31] <nalioth> z00kus: like your local university or linux users group
[08:31] <signius> Linksys is part of cisco and they are very possesive about there stuff
[08:31] <z00kus> I put an order in for 80 Cd's because im distributing to Companies/Schools/Friends
[08:31] <kbrooks> z00kus: maybe i can help. explain your problem
[08:31] <z00kus> And i was wondering how long it should take
[08:32] <nalioth> signius: walmart rules the world of capitalism
[08:32] <z00kus> (For the cd's to arrive)
[08:32] <Bauhn> i've found a cd-r. now i'm going to download a live-cd and i maybe come back later
[08:32] <kbrooks> z00kus: depends. we cant say
[08:32] <zoofields> hondje:  ok did it
[08:32] <z00kus> Alright
[08:32] <nalioth> signius: and i personally don't care what the label says, as long as its linksys hardware
[08:32] <signius> i dont think even wallmart has enough clout to tell cisco what to do
[08:32] <hondje> zoofields: now try that again, lets' hope the magic stays :)
[08:32] <z00kus> If you guys need to call me to confirm my order then i will have phone on all day
[08:32] <z00kus> But thanks for telling me Kbrooks.
[08:32] <kong0> reko: i cant find it in repos
[08:32] <z00kus> Everyone have a great night.
[08:33] <nalioth> signius: cisco to my thoughts, doesnt sell to ma-and-pa-kettle
[08:33] <kong0> reka: actually i dont even know how to find it in repos
[08:33] <reka> kong0: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:33] <nalioth> !Restricted
[08:33] <ubotu> well, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:33] <signius> if you want a very capable router and have some spare hardware consider m0nowall
[08:33] <nalioth> kong0: what ubotu said
[08:33] <kong0> ?
[08:33] <signius> CISCO own Linksys
[08:33] <kbrooks> a bot!
[08:33] <reka> kong0: do that, and then use synaptic to install programs(sys->admin->synaptic)
[08:33] <zoofields> hondje:  when I did the thing in the terminal it said that hald was already running, but I still get the same hald not running error message when I click on the media menu
[08:34] <kbrooks> omfg!
[08:34] <kong0> ok
[08:34] <reka> kbrooks: you saw it yesterday.
[08:34] <signius> m0nowall will rival routers costing 1000 upwards with some of its features and its got a fantastic GUI to admin it
[08:34] <hondje> zoofields: hrm, I'm not cool w/ hald, I dunno bud
[08:34] <kong0> kbrroks: i know but i have swedish and cant transleta that bot language to english sry
[08:34] <kbrooks> reka: did i?
[08:34] <nalioth> signius: yes, and major overkill for ma-and-pa-kettle
[08:34] <hondje> maybe nalioth knows, he's a smart cat
[08:34] <zoofields> hondje:  thanks for trying, I really appreciate it
[08:34] <hondje> zoofields: no problem
[08:34] <signius> its free
[08:34] <kbrooks> kong0: ?????
[08:35] <bionic> Where is the soundconfig in ubuntu 5.04? I want to remove the cards i have, would like to use another card. ?
[08:35] <reka> kbrooks: yep.  i distinctly remember it.
[08:35] <kbrooks> bionic: alsactl?
[08:35] <kong0> well im going afk now cya and thx for tha help
[08:35] <nalioth> kong0: go here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:35] <nalioth> hondje: who's a smart cat?
[08:35] <nalioth> hondje: and what is he smart about?
[08:35] <bionic> kbrooks, dont know, theres a whole bunch of modules loaded for the soundcard i dont want to use, i would like to remove everything
[08:36] <reka> nalioth: why restricted?  doesn't he want to install bchunk?
[08:36] <ivanox> anyone in here using wine!?
[08:36] <kbrooks> ivanox: wassup
[08:36] <forsak3n> How do I change the settings of what happens when I close my laptop lid?
[08:37] <Garathor> Which daemon does Ubuntu use as default to manage speedstepping? Powernowd, cpufreqd or cpudyn?
[08:37] <hondje> nalioth: you, on the subject of hald/gvm
[08:37] <kbrooks> Garathor: dpkg -L powernowd?
[08:37] <ivanox> I installed wine using the http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&page=1&pp=10 but I cannot install internet explorer in winetools...
[08:37] <kbrooks> ivanox: #wine
[08:37] <nalioth> reka: everyone (imho) can use uni and multi
[08:38] <ivanox> actaully it's winehq but they dont respond
[08:38] <nalioth> hondje: whats a hald/gvm?
[08:38] <Garathor> I'm not on my Ubuntu-system right now :)
[08:38] <nalioth> ivanox: WHY would you want to do that?
[08:38] <nalioth> ivanox: that has been proven to KILL some linux boxen
[08:38] <hondje> nalioth: hal, gnome volume manager, all that hardware stuff
[08:39] <ivanox> uh say what?
[08:39] <nalioth> hondje: as long as its PPC hardware
[08:39] <kbrooks> nalioth: .....u serious?
[08:39] <hondje> nalioth: I lose ;-)
[08:39] <ivanox> nalioth, what are u jabbing about?
[08:39] <nalioth> ivanox: running IE on linux boxen (via) wine can be quite exciting
[08:39] <reka> ivanox: you want to install IE?!
[08:39] <kbrooks> ivanox: you do know there is firefox?
[08:39] <ivanox> I dont want to run IE, but I need it installed to run other apps
[08:40] <ivanox> (to run other apps using winetools)
[08:40] <kbrooks> and you do know that opera can emulate IE as well?
[08:40] <forsak3n> How do I change the settings of what happens when I close my laptop lid?
[08:40] <nalioth> ivanox: kbrooks i tried it yesterday on my roommates machine, and watched the processes multiply quickly
[08:40] <ivanox> I dont want to use it as a browser ffs
[08:40] <reka> ivanox: ah, ok
[08:40] <ivanox> but its needed by winetools to emulate other win aplications
[08:40] <nalioth> ivanox: do you have a windows install you are running wine with?
[08:41] <ivanox> no windows installation
[08:41] <kbrooks> no cd?
[08:41] <nalioth> ivanox: ah. i see
[08:41] <ivanox> but nalioth as u apparently dont know what u are talking about plz dont bother :)
[08:41] <nalioth> ivanox: i have a ancient win98 install on the roommates PC that wine is running with
[08:42] <ivanox> here is a good guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&page=1&pp=10 (used to be good)
[08:42] <nalioth> ivanox: really?
[08:42] <ivanox> but as wine updated their cvs winetools broke
[08:42] <Marty-Mar> I need help on my screen resolution.
[08:42] <kbrooks> use x randr
[08:43] <kbrooks> xrandr*
[08:43] <Marty-Mar> I can't get it past 640 480.
[08:43] <Marty-Mar> Where can I get it?
[08:43] <kbrooks> erm
[08:43] <kbrooks> apt-get install xrandr
[08:44] <reka> Marty-Mar: Marty-Mar: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:44] <Marty-Mar> Alright.
[08:44] <kbrooks> also, ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[08:44] <keikoz> do somebody could tell me how to minimize a full-screen application ?
[08:44] <kbrooks> ubotu: version
[08:44] <keikoz> pls :)
[08:44] <ubotu> kbrooks: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:44] <reka> kbrooks: please link to that in future.
[08:44] <Marty-Mar> Thanks yall.
[08:44] <nalioth> kbrooks: i thought it was funny, watchin all the little windoze msg windows spawn via wine
[08:44] <reka> keikoz: ctrl+d
[08:44] <nalioth> kbrooks: didnt want to wait til they ate all the memory, so i killed wine
[08:44] <keikoz> cool thx very much
[08:45] <kbrooks> ubotu: screen resolution is <reply>http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:45] <ubotu> kbrooks: okay
[08:45] <kbrooks> erm
[08:45] <kbrooks> ubotu: forget screen resolution
[08:45] <ubotu> kbrooks: i forgot screen resolution
[08:45] <orangey> nalioth: any packages needed to forward ports?
[08:45] <kbrooks> ubotu: fix screen resolution is <reply>http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:45] <ubotu> kbrooks: okay
[08:45] <kbrooks> (sorry!)
[08:46] <nalioth> orangey: what do you mean?
[08:46] <orangey> maybe some program involved in the port forwarding is missing?
[08:46] <AndyR> has anyone packaged gaimvv for hoart yet?
[08:47] <phillipc> what is /etc/ssh_host_rsa_key, and why shouldn't a regular user have access to it?
[08:47] <kbrooks> AndyR: typo for package name?
[08:47] <nalioth> orangey: you are doing it correctly. is the machine you are accessing running sshd?
[08:47] <orangey> nalioth: yeah : )
[08:47] <nalioth> phillipc: all your ssh keys are in ~/.ssh
[08:47] <kbrooks> AndyR: if it is (gaim), yes. if it isn't, i doubt it
[08:47] <AndyR> kbrooks, gaimvv
[08:47] <orangey> I've done the -L port:host:port thing many times.. on this system as well.. but it's only since I installed Kubuntu like yesterday that this has happened..
[08:47] <phillipc> (read access)
[08:48] <nalioth> orangey: i'm lost at this point
[08:48] <phillipc> nalioth: I know. So what is /etc/ssh_host_rsa_key?
[08:48] <AndyR> gaim friendly fork with voice and video
[08:48] <nalioth> orangey: you shouldnt need any 'port forwarding' things on your machine (or do you have a router involved?)
[08:48] <bionic> Can anyone please tell me where the soundconfig is, i want to remove the current installed soundcard?
[08:48] <kbrooks> AndyR: well, duplication..............
[08:48] <nalioth> phillipc: probably the boxes default setting
[08:48] <acidspoon> is there an easy way to write on ntfs drives under ubuntu?
[08:48] <orangey> router?
[08:48] <reka> acidspoon: ntfs-write isn't safe
[08:48] <kbrooks> AndyR: i doubt its packaged in ubuntu hoary.
[08:49] <kbrooks> AndyR: but you can search for it
[08:49] <nalioth> acidspoon: not reliably( as in you risk all data on NTFS partition)
[08:49] <kbrooks> apt-cache search gaim\*
[08:49] <nalioth> orangey: is your puter connected directly to the
[08:49] <nalioth> internet?
[08:49] <acidspoon> and whats that unsafe possibility?
[08:49] <orangey> nalioth: likely not.. I'm at a net cafe this moment..
[08:49] <nalioth> acidspoon: total NTFS data loss
[08:50] <nalioth> orangey: ah thats the problem
[08:50] <orangey> nalioth: but I want my 127.0.0.1 to get the port..
[08:50] <orangey> nalioth: How?
[08:50] <reka> acidspoon: is it a partition or does it have windows on it?
[08:50] <nalioth> orangey: you are most likey firewalled very nicely
[08:50] <orangey> nalioth: shouldn't matter..
[08:50] <acidspoon> windows on it
[08:50] <orangey> SSH forwarding is like this: It listens to me on port X, sends that info through port 22 (SSH), then outputs it on port Y of other machine..
[08:50] <nalioth> orangey: it does if they block the port ssh uses
[08:51] <acidspoon> i want to delete some viruses found using aegis virus scanner under linux for my windows drive
[08:51] <orangey> nalioth: they're not blocking 22, or else nothing would work, whereas I can login by ssh fine
[08:51] <nalioth> orangey: i'll repeat myself. I don't know.
[08:51] <nalioth> orangey: am at a loss
[08:51] <nalioth> orangey: am hornswoggled
[08:51] <reka> acidspoon: can't you just clean it in windows?
[08:51] <orangey> nalioth: I know, I know.. I really do appreciate the working through though..
[08:52] <orangey> nalioth: You must realize you are my only hope : )
[08:52] <nalioth> orangey: but i'll bet its with the cafes firewall
[08:52] <tmdca> hi. i just installed ubuntu. how do i change the hz at my screen? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 dosent work... help  ^^
[08:52] <martin> I still cannot raise my resolution.
[08:52] <reka> hornswoggled - word of the day
[08:52] <acidspoon> hmm, my scanners under linux don't find the viruses
[08:52] <nalioth> orangey: cuz thats the only thing you do not control
[08:52] <bionic> How do i not make alsa start on boot?
[08:52] <nalioth> acidspoon: are you scanning the NTFS partition?
[08:52] <orangey> nalioth: I'll try another network shortly and let you know : )
[08:53] <acidspoon> yes
[08:53] <reka> bionic: didn't you follow the ubguide fix?  it should load alsa on bootup
[08:53] <nalioth> acidspoon: better to use avast and enable boot-time scan on NTFS partitions
[08:53] <martin> Can anyone show me another way to raise my resolution to 1024 768?
[08:53] <martin> Becuase it is stuck on 640 480.
[08:53] <acidspoon> what does boot-time scan mean?
[08:53] <reka> martin: you'll need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:54] <bionic> reka, it followed it, still wont work, alsa loads fine, but i dont want it to load at bootup. Im going back to my old soundcard and use plain old oss
[08:54] <kbrooks> martin: Are you a hundred percent sure that you followed the guide?
[08:54] <nalioth> acidspoon: means, that it scans for virii, before the windows kernel is woken up (so the little beasties are still sleepin)
[08:54] <martin> I did the first section, I cann't understand the second.
[08:55] <acidspoon> nalioth: is it freeware or does it cost money, avast?
[08:55] <AndyR> or drop to shell and do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:55] <forsak3n> Are there any settings to change the actions of a laptop? like what happens when I close the lid?
[08:55] <reka> bionic: that's no good.
[08:55] <nalioth> acidspoon: avast is free for personal use
[08:55] <bionic> reka, well, wont work, so what can i do
[08:55] <kbrooks> #define free beer
[08:55] <reka> bionic: i meant i feel sorry for you, not that oss isn't good. :-)
[08:55] <tmdca> thanks! =D
[08:56] <acidspoon> ok, i try
[08:56] <acidspoon> thx
[08:56] <zyth> OSS isn't good
[08:56] <acidspoon> cu
[08:56] <bionic> reka, hehe ty :)
[08:56] <acidspoon> brb
[08:56] <kbrooks> ping
[08:56] <reka> pong
[08:57] <kbrooks> Can someone recommend a small DE or WM?
[08:57] <kbrooks> enlightement?
[08:57] <nalioth> kbrooks: ya mean like xfce?
[08:58] <kbrooks> ] 
[08:58] <reka> screen :-P
[08:58] <martin> Would anyone be able to help me with the /etc/X11/xorg.conf editting?
[08:58] <martin> I'm pretty new to Linux.
[08:58] <kbrooks> nalioth: yes
[08:58] <reka> martin: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:59] <kbrooks> nalioth: yup
[08:59] <masahiro> Help, ubuntu noob here!
[08:59] <martin> Reka do I type that into RUN?
[08:59] <kbrooks> nalioth: like xfce. or something
[08:59] <reka> martin: apps->sys->terminal
[08:59] <kbrooks> martin: open a gnome-terminal
[08:59] <masahiro> I have a question about sound, what channel should I ak in this?
[08:59] <nalioth> kbrooks: search sourceforge, there are boodles
[08:59] <kbrooks> martin: ask here
[08:59] <kbrooks> er
[08:59] <kbrooks> masahiro: *
[08:59] <kbrooks> martin: sorry, i apologize ;)
[08:59] <nalioth> masahiro: what is the problem?
[08:59] <martin> Alright, I opened it up, now what?
[09:00] <kbrooks> martin: type that
[09:00] <martin> It's alright =)
[09:00] <masahiro> ok, i have no sound. when i try the volume control i get No volume control elements and/or devices found.
[09:00] <asase> what's  shiny ?
[09:00] <kbrooks> martin: the command
[09:00] <masahiro> in windows it works
[09:00] <martin> Starting from Sudo right?
[09:01] <masahiro> sudo? i tried various commands from lots of sites beggining with sudo but i didnt understand them
[09:01] <kbrooks> martin: yes. sudo enables you to run apps as the superuser
[09:01] <masahiro> ah ok
[09:01] <binbrain> masahiro what kind of soundcard is it
[09:01] <masahiro> its onboard
[09:01] <binbrain> on snap
[09:01] <nalioth> masahiro: be careful doin that. the wrong command prefaced with "sudo" can destroy your system
[09:01] <kbrooks> masahiro: heh. i just had to type what sudo was ............:P
[09:02] <masahiro> i think its ac97 compatible
[09:02] <binbrain> yeah
[09:02] <binbrain> i can't get mine to work either
[09:02] <binbrain> same card
[09:02] <binbrain> i gave up
[09:02] <martin> I did what yall said and it opened up this script editor.
[09:02] <masahiro> im using a hp t760.uk and its an asus board
[09:02] <reka> martin: scroll down and look for lines like this: Modes          "800x600" "640x480"
[09:02] <kbrooks> nalioth: dude.....sure, but sudo reauthenicates when you open a  new gnome terminal
[09:03] <reka> martin: change all of them to: Modes          "1024x768"
[09:03] <martin> Alright
[09:03] <kbrooks> nalioth: so the chances of that are mitigated
[09:03] <nalioth> kbrooks: but if the user is ignorant of the command, does it matter?
[09:03] <kbrooks> nalioth: nope.....
[09:03] <ivanox> which is the best way to search for installed software and uninstall it ?
[09:03] <nalioth> ivanox: synaptic
[09:03] <kbrooks> ivanox: synsaptic.
[09:03] <hondje> ivanox: using synaptic, if you're a newbie
[09:03] <hondje> deborphan, if you're funky
[09:03] <asase> what's  shiny ?
[09:03] <ivanox> I dont want to use synaptic, as it doesnt remove the deps
[09:03] <ivanox> any other way?
[09:04] <hondje> You can get stupid and do like, dpkg -P `deborphan -a --find-config --libdevel | awk '{print $2}'`
[09:04] <reka> asase: a mirror.  what do i win?
[09:04] <kbrooks> ivanox: i dont know if deborphan will renive the deps?
[09:04] <hondje> That'd be dumb, though
[09:04] <kbrooks> hondje: what does dpkg -P do?
[09:04] <hondje> kbrooks: purge
[09:04] <kbrooks> ah okay
[09:05] <hondje> kbrooks: good for when you forget to add --purge, and crap lies around
[09:05] <lambert> hello
[09:05] <kbrooks> so it purges ....... heh,  awk rules
[09:05] <lambert> salut
[09:05] <masahiro> is there like a noob tutorial on getting your sound working?
[09:05] <lambert> tite question:
[09:05] <hondje> kbrooks: aye!
[09:05] <kbrooks> the concept of columns have been massaged into awk
[09:05] <hondje> kbrooks: I use that on things that don't have X or get dev stuff done
[09:06] <reka> masahiro: if you're desperate: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[09:06] <kbrooks> gawk to be specific
[09:06] <reka> for gnome
[09:06] <kbrooks> g == gnu
[09:06] <hondje> yeah, gawk > awk
[09:06] <martin> Alright I changed all of them
[09:06] <martin> Now what do I do?
[09:06] <reka> martin: save and close, then ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X
[09:06] <masahiro> reka: I will try that, thanks, I will be back if I get any other bad stuff
[09:06] <kbrooks> hondje: on a linux system, awk -> gawk
[09:07] <icon> quick question about installing linux nVidia drivers. Is there a page on how to shut down Gnome/X in Ubuntu?
[09:07] <martin> So I type "ctrl+alt+backspace" only?
[09:07] <hondje> kbrooks: yeah, makes me happy, awk doesn't have $count IIRC
[09:07] <kbrooks> ln -s gawk awk
[09:07] <reka> martin: yep
[09:07] <kbrooks> :)_
[09:07] <albacker> halt
[09:07] <martin> Alright wish me luck
[09:07] <albacker> no this halts the PC :S
[09:07] <kbrooks> hondje: what's $count? oh wait
[09:07] <kbrooks> doh
[09:08] <kbrooks> count's a integer between 1 and 9
[09:08] <kbrooks> got it.....
[09:08] <mjr> icon, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:09] <lambert> puis je installer Konqueror sur ubuntu sans que sa genere de problemes?(car ubuntu est sous gnome)
[09:09] <Martin> Ahh, I didn't work.
[09:09] <Martin> Do I have to log into Gnome?
[09:09] <reka> Martin: yes
[09:09] <Martin> Alright
[09:09] <lambert> please respond
[09:09] <lambert> my question
[09:09] <HappyFool> lambert: please ask your question in english
[09:10] <HappyFool> lambert: or ask in #ubuntu-fr
[09:10] <nalioth> lambert: there are few people here who speak french
[09:10] <lambert> ok euhmm..euhm..
[09:10] <Bauhn> Can anyone help me with removing GRUB so i only can boot windows (i need to remove the linux-hdd, maybe even remove linux totally)?
[09:10] <martin> Alright, It didn't work.
[09:11] <martin> Sorry.
[09:11] <concept10> Bauhn, why would you want to do something crazy like that?
[09:11] <reka> martin: what monitor do you have?
[09:11] <nalioth> concept10: he's tired of linux and wants windows only
[09:11] <hondje> kbrooks: I use count$ with printf in gawk, about the only other thing I do with it besides grab columns :)
[09:11] <lambert> can I install Konqueror on ubuntu without there are problems?(because ubuntu is with gnome)escuse my english
[09:11] <concept10> reinstall windows, it will rewrite grub
[09:11] <nalioth> who knows the dd command to clean Bauhn's mbr
[09:12] <nalioth> lambert: oui, 0 problem
[09:12] <lambert> ok
[09:12] <lambert> thanks
[09:12] <HappyFool> lambert: you can install 'kubuntu-desktop' to get kde
[09:12] <tmdca> hi. i have reconfigured my xserver so i should be able to have higher than 800x600 at 70hz but the changes dont work, they are gone when i restart xserver....i can use 1042x768 but only at 60hz... help!
[09:12] <Bauhn> concept10, becuase the hdd that linux is on right now is on 6gb and i need to put a 120gb hdd in it's place and i need to use windows during the time i'm changing hdd
[09:12] <HappyFool> lambert: including konqueror
[09:12] <martin> I have a HP MX70
[09:12] <lambert> I can't??
[09:12] <reka> tmdca: what monitor do you have?
[09:13] <microhaxo> guys, what is the best DATA/AUDO burning package that i can get, i wanna be able to burn VCD's and iso's
[09:13] <Bauhn> nalioth, do you think you can help me with uninstalling _everything_ that comes with ubuntu_
[09:13] <Bauhn> ?
[09:13] <HappyFool> lambert: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' ?
[09:13] <nalioth> lambert: installer "kubuntu-desktop" with 0 problems
[09:13] <concept10> microhaxo, k3b
[09:13] <martin> reka: I have a HP MX70
[09:13] <synd> nalioth: did youo connect?
[09:13] <nalioth> Bauhn: that would not remove the grub loader from your /mbr
[09:13] <HappyFool> Bauhn: that won't help you. you need to fix the boot sector of your first hard drive
[09:13] <lambert> ok thanks
[09:13] <lambert> goodbye
[09:13] <nalioth> synd: not yet, sit and spin
[09:14] <synd> nalioth: my thing says someone connected from a gnome desk
[09:14] <tmdca> reka, a compaq, quite old thing. i hade 1024 at 70hz before at debian...
[09:14] <nalioth> synd: didnt hear a thing, if it did
[09:14] <Bauhn> nalioth, do you think i would work with "fdisk /mbr grub" or something like that?
[09:14] <lukus001> Is hauppage tv card supported? and how can i install /watch tv?
[09:14] <reka> tmdca: so the res is fine, it's just the refresh rate?
[09:14] <nalioth> Bauhn: i dont think so
[09:15] <tmdca> reka, Yes.
[09:15] <nalioth> Bauhn: you couldnt find a boot image from bootdisk.com?
[09:15] <martin> reka, I have a MX70 HP
[09:15] <Bauhn> nalioth, i have knoppix live-cd now. but i tried "fdisk /mbr" but it gave the same answer as in ubuntu & knoppix
[09:16] <reka> tmdca, martin: you both probably don't have your monitor refresh rates set correctly in xorg.conf
[09:16] <kong0> i havent installed my audio card and now i cant play vidoe or music!!
[09:17] <kong0> wtf dude i only have drivers for windows!!!
[09:17] <reka> you should really google to find the correct paramaters, but you might be able to use the example rates on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:17] <martin> Oh alright.
[09:17] <kiwibird> need some help with firefox and java.. just got java 1.5.03, installed it from the bin and symlinked the  libjavaplugin_oji.so into mozilla-firefox/plugins, it shows up with a buncha info on about:plugins but no suffixes, and when i click .jnlp links, it just asks me whether to save or what.. anyone know what's up?
[09:17] <Bauhn> nalioth, what do you mean? that the windows hdd is master? or the linux hdd is master?
[09:17] <martin> So I go back in and change it all back to 1024 768 right?
[09:17] <kong0> i only have linux
[09:18] <reka> martin: post your xorg.conf to ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[09:18] <tmdca> reka, where in that file should i edit?
[09:18] <reka> tmdca: the relevant section can be found on the link i posted
[09:18] <nalioth> who can help Bauhn with his commands for fdisking his /mbr. he has a knoppix livecd
[09:19] <Seveas> he shoud mount is filesystems, chroot into them, mount proc again, run grub-install '(hd0)'
[09:20] <Bauhn> Seveas, can you help me?
[09:20] <kiwibird> anyone able to help..?
[09:20] <martin> Alright Reka
[09:21] <reka> martin: link?
[09:21] <kong0> how should i do to get sound on my linux?
[09:21] <reka> kiwibird: with what?
[09:21] <martin> Oh wait a second, I'm really slow
[09:21] <HappyFool> Bauhn: you can boot the knoppix cd?
[09:22] <Bauhn> HappyFool, i have booted it now
[09:22] <HappyFool> Bauhn: do you have a windows xp cd?
[09:22] <Bauhn> no
[09:22] <kbrooks> what's ar?
[09:22] <kbrooks> anyone?
[09:22] <mypapit> hmm i've a request for ubuntu developers... would you please include a menu for broadband/dsl users to connect to internet
[09:22] <dkg> hi
[09:22] <mypapit> for the future version of ubuntu
[09:22] <hondje> kbrooks: ar? the command?
[09:22] <kbrooks> yes
[09:23] <dkg> i got strange errors about gnome-applet-data when i tryed to upgrade warrty.
[09:23] <hondje> kbrooks: ar -x is for like, unwrapping .debs the bad way, or .a libs
[09:23] <martin> Should I use PHP Reka?
[09:23] <kbrooks> hondje: i want to install it......
[09:23] <dkg> now i do dist-upgrade to horray.
[09:23] <kbrooks> hondje: but
[09:23] <hondje> So I'd guess the reverse, ar is used to make your .a libs
[09:23] <dkg> do you think this will work?
[09:23] <shakuhashi> anyone using ubuntu with selinux?
[09:23] <Bauhn> HappyFool, so, what do you think i should do?
[09:23] <kbrooks> E: Couldn't find package ar
[09:23] <reka> martin: use none
[09:23] <reka> *no
[09:23] <Seveas> kbrooks, ar isn't a package by itself
[09:23] <HappyFool> kbrooks: try binutils, or maybe build-essential
[09:23] <Seveas> and it's already there...
[09:23] <kbrooks> ok
[09:23] <HappyFool> Bauhn: standby
[09:24] <martin> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/301506
[09:24] <saik0> I'm having a major hardware problem. My server wont turn on!
[09:24] <Bauhn> HappyFool, ok.. i'll wait
[09:24] <sergio> hol
[09:24] <sergio> CUANTO FRIKI SUELTO
[09:24] <Seveas> sergio, we speak english in here...
[09:24] <kbrooks> are header files free?/
[09:24] <kong0> did u all have to install the drivers for the sound?
[09:24] <tmdca> reka, I have read the guide, but there is nothing wrong with my xorg.conf
[09:24] <kbrooks> lol
[09:24] <kbrooks> j/k
[09:25] <shakuhashi> sergio: do you live in Brazil?
[09:25] <sergio> YA VEO
[09:25] <veronica> I wanted to mount my home directories on another drive other than the / directory ....is this possible?
[09:25] <sergio> SPAIN
[09:25] <kiwibird> reka: i've got a problem with getting firefox to work with the java plugin for jdk1.5.03, i've symlinked it to libjavaplugin_oji.so, and it shows in about:plugins, but clicking .jnlp-files doesn't work and java applets don't show
[09:25] <hondje> kbrooks: check the binutils pkg
[09:25] <saik0> Veronica: yes
[09:25] <Seveas> sergio,  va en #ubuntu-es por espaol...
[09:25] <sergio> OK
[09:26] <hondje> kbrooks: ar is in that pkg
[09:26] <reka> tmdca: post your xorg.conf file to ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[09:26] <Seveas> hondje, that package should be installed
[09:26] <veronica> saik0: i thought i mounted it but it says " your home directory is listes as /home/rui but it does not exist...."
[09:26] <hondje> oh, I"m more than a day late, I'll just stfu :)
[09:26] <kbrooks> ty
[09:26] <Seveas> lsb depends on it
[09:26] <Seveas> and ubuntu-desktop depends on lsb :)
[09:26] <veronica> saik0: how can i correct it?
[09:27] <reka> martin: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/301508
[09:27] <hondje> then why no ar for kbrooks, I wonder ? It's in /usr/bin
[09:27] <kbrooks> i didnt install    ubuntu-desktop
[09:27] <bluemax> question... i put some postscript fonts (.pfm format) in ~/.fonts but X isn't recognizing them. what do i have to do to use them?
[09:27] <Seveas> kbrooks, ah :0
[09:27] <veronica> I want my /home directories on the sata drive i have
[09:27] <kbrooks> so there
[09:27] <Seveas> well, install binutils then :)
[09:27] <kiwibird> hum..guess no one can help..
[09:27] <Seveas> or better: lsb
[09:27] <veronica> saik0: but my / is on the IDE drive
[09:27] <kbrooks> Seveas: i installed build-essential
[09:27] <nalioth> hondje: big cup or little cup ;)
[09:27] <HappyFool> Bauhn: hm. I found this, and it may be on knoppix: http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/76201/gpart/
[09:27] <HappyFool> Bauhn: however, it looks risky
[09:27] <Seveas> kbrooks, that should have done it too
[09:27] <reka> kiwibird: firfox plugins aren't my forte. sorry :-/
[09:28] <nalioth> kiwibird: try back later
[09:28] <hondje> nalioth: BIG
[09:28] <Bauhn> HappyFool, what could happen?
[09:28] <HappyFool> Bauhn: i suspect it is on knoppix based on this: http://greenfly.org/talks/knoppix_hacks/LWE-2004.html
[09:28] <martin> Thank you
[09:28] <kbrooks> heh
[09:28] <HappyFool> Bauhn: well, your master boot record could be trashed
[09:28] <nalioth> Bauhn: hose your drive
[09:28] <reka> martin: replace the existing xorg.conf with that one (just copy and paste), then restart X
[09:28] <saik0> Veronica: I've never moved my home partiotion after setting up a distro. I'm guessing it would be as simple as copying all the data ands then changing your fstab but I could be wrong
[09:29] <veronica> why the fstab?
[09:29] <nalioth> HappyFool: Bauhn wants his /mbr to be removed like trash (no nasty bits left there, tho)
[09:29] <Octane> anyone know where i can get w32codecs?
[09:29] <hondje> Octane: mplayer's site
[09:29] <HappyFool> nalioth: take a look at the first url
[09:29] <nalioth> Octane: www.mplayerhq.hu
[09:29] <Octane> hondje, the package?
[09:29] <Seveas> nalioth, completely back to windows mbr..?
[09:29] <Bauhn> HappyFool, fuck.. but isn't there anything that can restore everything to default?
[09:29] <HappyFool> nalioth: or just look in the description in synpatic for gpart
[09:29] <seven_six_two> if anyone is interested, I started a public gnocatan server, North American map. it's posted on meta-server if you want to play!
[09:29] <Seveas> Bauhn, do you want grub removed or reinstalled?
[09:29] <hondje> Octane: marillat
[09:30] <kbrooks> seven_six_two: SPAMMER
[09:30] <reka> Octane:
[09:30] <reka> #deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
[09:30] <reka> #deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main
[09:30] <HappyFool> Bauhn: i am not certain, but i believe this application may do that
[09:30] <reka> without the #'s
[09:30] <tmdca> reka, i have post it now.....
[09:30] <reka> tmdca: link?
[09:30] <Bauhn> Seveas, removed.. i cant remove this hdd, but i must..
[09:30] <Bauhn> and that's why i want it removed
[09:30] <tmdca> reka, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/301509
[09:30] <Seveas> Bauhn, then get yourself a windows boot floppy
[09:30] <kbrooks> Seveas: ?
[09:30] <Seveas> and run fdisk /mbr from there
[09:30] <Seveas> kbrooks..?
[09:30] <nalioth> Seveas: he wants NO mbr, so it loads ntldr instead
[09:30] <kbrooks> seven_six_two: get a life
[09:31] <saik0> The backports repo also has w32codecs, but I'm not sure backports is any better than mixing repos
[09:31] <HappyFool> Seveas: apparently has a lack of windows boot media
[09:31] <HappyFool> that is, Bauhn does
[09:31] <reka> tmdca:
[09:31] <Seveas> nalioth, fdisk /mbr will make it use NTLDR again...
[09:31] <reka> HorizSync       28-49
[09:31] <reka>  VertRefresh     43-72
[09:31] <kbrooks> Seveas: why arree you opping yourself up
[09:31] <nalioth> Bauhn: we go round and round, don't we?
[09:31] <Bauhn> Seveas, i cant. i'm on dreamhack and it isnt anyone here with a floppy
[09:31] <kbrooks> are*
[09:31] <reka> tmdca: seems  kind of low
[09:31] <Seveas> Bauhn, ah...
[09:31] <HappyFool> Bauhn: isn't there someone with a windows xp cd ?
[09:31] <nalioth> Seveas: we've been discussing all the ways for a few hours now
[09:31] <tmdca> reka, i know. its an ooold screen.....
[09:31] <microhaxo> arg
[09:31] <kbrooks> nalioth: who has a problem
[09:31] <nalioth> Seveas: he's kinda limited on his software (cds, floppys, etc)
[09:31] <seven_six_two> kbrooks: I have a life. but i also have some spare time.
[09:31] <bluemax> does anyone know how to get Postscript Type 1 fonts to work with X?
[09:32] <kcburyshaker> hello everyone
[09:32] <Bauhn> HappyFool, of course i'm trying to find one. but it isnt going very well
[09:32] <nalioth> Seveas: know the command to follow "dd" taht will clean his mbr?
[09:32] <hondje> bluefoxicy: Don't hold me to it, but I think you might have to run the font server for that
[09:32] <Seveas> Bauhn, I certainly know of no other way than running fdisk /mbr
[09:32] <Bauhn> but wait, i'll go ask a friend in the other end of the hall. i'll be right back
[09:32] <kcburyshaker> i just installed ubuntu for the first time  and this is my first experience with linux
[09:32] <HappyFool> i reckon gpart might do something, but i don't know if it will right a 'windows' mbr
[09:32] <Seveas> nalioth, dd can restore the mbr if you have a good one
[09:32] <kcburyshaker> im liking it so far
[09:33] <HappyFool> and i don't want to try it on my computer ;)
[09:33] <reka> tmdca: well like i said before, it's best to use the rates out there i.e. google your model and "horizsync" or try hs: 30-96 and vs 50 - 160
[09:33] <kbrooks> Seveas: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[09:33] <saik0> So what would cause a computer to not turn on...all the LEDs are on =\
[09:33] <kbrooks> havent tested
[09:33] <Seveas> kbrooks, that'll wipe the MBR clean
[09:33] <kbrooks> yes
[09:33] <hondje> tmdca: or better, sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[09:33] <reka> kcburyshaker: that's good
[09:33] <kbrooks> that's right
[09:33] <Seveas> so it won't do no good if you want to boot from that disk :)
[09:33] <kbrooks> Seveas: ummm
[09:33] <kcburyshaker> is it really more stable than windows?
[09:33] <hondje> tmdca: first two will be your horizsync, other two will be your vertrefresh
[09:34] <Octane> hondje, can you pm me that deb package one more time?
[09:34] <bluemax> hondje: i think you were talking to me :) where is the font server? please excuse my cluelessness...
[09:34] <Seveas> kbrooks, windows needs something present in the MBR too, that's what fdisk /mbr does...
[09:34] <kbrooks> Seveas: okay
[09:34] <synd> kcburyshaker: a broken rocking chair is more stable than windows
[09:34] <kcburyshaker> ohhhh
[09:34] <reka> kcburyshaker: depends on who you ask.
[09:34] <HappyFool> kcburyshaker: stability is at least partly a function of hardware and drivers
[09:34] <Varanger> I built from sources the newest ALSA, i'd like to return the the ones installed with dpkg..... how can I reinstall them?
[09:34] <nalioth> Seveas: no way to wipe a mbr from within knoppix/ubuntu?
[09:34] <HappyFool> i rarely have crashes on windows
[09:34] <hondje> bluemax: yah, I think for that you need to run XFS
[09:35] <reka> synd: a broken rocking chair wouldn't move ... that's pretty stable :-/
[09:35] <hondje> bluemax: but setting that up is wicked for a newbie
[09:35] <Seveas> nalioth, you can wipe it with dd, but that won't restore it for windows...
[09:35] <klaym> tell me a good shooter game from the ubuntu repos?
[09:35] <TokenBad> on ftp
[09:35] <nalioth> Seveas: in knoppix, would "fdisk /dev/hd(#)/mbr work?
[09:35] <TokenBad> is there some delay on between files
[09:35] <Seveas> nalioth, nope
[09:35] <microhaxo> guys
[09:35] <HappyFool> nalioth, seveas: take a look at gpart (available in universe) -- i think it might restore mbr's, but i'm not sure
[09:35] <TokenBad> guy said he download files
[09:35] <synd> reka:  :)
[09:35] <reka> klaym: there's an ubuntu gaming topic on ubuntuforums.org
[09:35] <microhaxo> in gnome
[09:35] <TokenBad> but there was a long delay between files
[09:35] <Varanger> I built from sources the newest ALSA, i'd like to return the the ones installed with dpkg..... how can I reinstall them?
[09:35] <bluemax> hondje: ok, i'll look it up on google and give it a try... thanks
[09:35] <microhaxo> how can i axx my NTFS partitions?
[09:35] <nalioth> all this for lack of a floppy
[09:35] <klaym> ok
[09:35] <Seveas> knoddix/linux fdisk knows nothing about windows mbr afaik
[09:36] <microhaxo> i dont see them in computer
[09:36] <Seveas> microhaxo: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[09:36] <hondje> bluemax: If you got a sec, I'm digging in my bookmars
[09:36] <nalioth> microhaxo: do what to your NTFS?
[09:36] <microhaxo> i wanna axx a file
[09:36] <jbroome> delete?
[09:36] <nalioth> microhaxo: axx = access or axx = AXE (chop up)
[09:36] <jbroome> remove?
[09:36] <Seveas> nalioth, i think he means access, spelling is difficult for some people ;)
[09:36] <microhaxo> access
[09:36] <microhaxo> ;p;
[09:36] <bluemax> hondje: ok
[09:36] <gnuyen> hi, for some reason totem is all faded
[09:36] <jbroome> silly me, trying to read english
[09:37] <microhaxo> need
[09:37] <gnuyen> and it looks like the color depth is less than it should be
[09:37] <Varanger> hondje: I built from sources the newest ALSA, i'd like to return the the ones installed with dpkg..... how can I reinstall them?
[09:37] <Bauhn> he didn't have a windows cd, but i spoked about changing something in the master boot record
[09:37] <gnuyen> i'm using totem-xine, but xine-ui works fine
[09:37] <microhaxo> to get my elite topsource FTP IP so i can get windows
[09:37] <nalioth> microhaxo: waht Seveas said
[09:37] <gnuyen> as does mplayer
[09:37] <microhaxo> hahaha
[09:37] <microhaxo> nice one seveas
[09:37] <Razor-X> hondje: would you, perchance, have emacs experience?
[09:37] <hondje> Varanger: make uninstall, the dpkg -i <the ones>
[09:37] <nalioth> Bauhn: nobody around you has a spare floppy?
[09:37] <Fabian> good evening
[09:37] <hondje> Razor-X: No, one OS is enough for me :)
[09:37] <yahalom> where do i go for freenode issues? #freenode has demi gods stealing my voice
[09:38] <Razor-X> hondje: aww man!
[09:38] <Fabian> does anybody know a good program to download music? Something like Kazaa for Linux???
[09:38] <nalioth> Razor-X: are you in here cussin?
[09:38] <yahalom> Fabian, limewire
[09:38] <Bauhn> nalioth, fuck, forgot to ask him that.. brb
[09:38] <Razor-X> hondje: I have three on this box, Windows, Linux, and emacs ;)
[09:38] <Razor-X> nalioth: nopes
[09:38] <Fabian> yahalom, where do I get that?
[09:38] <Razor-X> *nalioth
[09:38] <nalioth> Fabian: gtk-gnutella
[09:38] <hondje> bluemax: hey neat
[09:38] <hondje> bluemax: don't need XFS for that, either, just install them like any other font
[09:38] <Fabian> nalioth, which one's better? gnutella or limewire?
[09:38] <reka> martin: how are you going?
[09:38] <Razor-X> Fabian: same thing
[09:38] <Razor-X> they both use the same network
[09:38] <jbroome> doesn't limewire use the gnutella network?
[09:38] <scorpix> Fabian: aMule
[09:38] <yahalom> Fabian, www.limewire.com. but just follow the ubuntu guide cos u'll need to install java. www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:39] <jbroome> apparently so. :)
[09:39] <Bauhn> nope, he didnt have that
[09:39] <nalioth> Fabian: they access the same network, limewire requires java, gtk-gnutella doesnt
[09:39] <Fabian> I got java
[09:39] <bluemax> hondje: i already put the fonts into ~/.fonts but i can't use them in any app
[09:39] <Razor-X> and java == CPU drain
[09:39] <hondje> $HOME/.fonts? Really?
[09:39] <Razor-X> how can you specify color schemes in emacs command-line?
[09:39] <bluemax> hondje: even after restarting
[09:39] <kong0> can i use msn on my linux?
[09:39] <Di42lo`> speaking about aMule..how can i make hebrew support ?
[09:39] <HappyFool> kong0: yeah, use Gaim
[09:39] <Razor-X> kong0: yeah, you can
[09:39] <Seveas> kong0, of course
[09:39] <jbroome> kong0: use gaim to access MSN
[09:39] <Di42lo`> (right-to-left language)
[09:40] <martin> Haha, I think when I saved it the first time I saved it accidently on "READ ONLY"
[09:40] <kong0> wheres gaim?
[09:40] <gnuyen> gaim.sf.net
[09:40] <microhaxo> wtf
[09:40] <HappyFool> Applications -> Internet -> Gaim
[09:40] <Seveas> kong0, applications->internet->gaim
[09:40] <microhaxo> i cant VIEW my other HArd drives
[09:40] <microhaxo> whyt?1
[09:40] <reka> microhaxo: cos they ain't mounted
[09:40] <microhaxo> i ran that script
[09:40] <hondje> bluemax: /msg me
[09:40] <microhaxo> i cant see them in computer
[09:40] <microhaxo> i just see filesystem
[09:40] <microhaxo> cdrom
[09:40] <microhaxo> etc
[09:40] <microhaxo> i have 3hds
[09:41] <Seveas> microhaxo, drives don't appear in the computer
[09:41] <microhaxo> where are they?
[09:41] <Seveas> they appear in the filesystem
[09:41] <microhaxo> lol im used to kde
[09:41] <Seveas> under /media/
[09:41] <veronica> my /home directory is on my second sata drive but ubuntu cant see it....what can I do?
[09:41] <HappyFool> veronica: how have you tried to mount it?
[09:41] <veronica> dont know ..how...
[09:42] <HappyFool> veronica: ah
[09:42] <veronica> HappyFool: what command ?
[09:42] <microhaxo> err
[09:42] <veronica> HappyFool: when i start ubuntu wont let me log in cuz it cant see the /home drive
[09:42] <microhaxo> gnome wont open my program files folder?
[09:42] <HappyFool> veronica: hmm
[09:42] <veronica> HappyFool: i dont know how to mount
[09:42] <HappyFool> veronica: ok, can you access the machine at all? In recovery mode, perhaps?
[09:43] <Seveas> microhaxo, can you pm me the output of the following commands:
[09:43] <Seveas> cat /etc/fstab
[09:43] <Seveas> mount
[09:43] <veronica> HappyFool: i am in console....cuz desktop wont work
[09:43] <yahalom> Seveas, any ideas what freenode's port is?
[09:43] <HappyFool> veronica: can you easily cut/paste data from that machine to irc or http ?
[09:43] <Seveas> port for what?
[09:43] <kong0> what is this error message?: I have discovered that a panel is already in use and will now terminate me.
[09:43] <yahalom> Seveas, irc.freenode.net <port>\
[09:43] <veronica> HappyFool: not really ....i can type it....
[09:44] <HappyFool> veronica: hm
[09:44] <veronica> HappyFool:
[09:44] <reka> kong0: arnie's after you?
[09:44] <Seveas> kong0, you tried started gnome-panel while it was running
[09:44] <kong0> ps. im swedish so i dont really know how it is in english
[09:44] <veronica> HappyFool:what do you want to see
[09:44] <Seveas> yahalom, use netstat -t to find out
[09:44] <Seveas> probably 6667
[09:44] <HappyFool> veronica: ok. i'd like to see /etc/fstab, and the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'
[09:44] <HappyFool> veronica: there's a pastebin you can use...
[09:44] <kong0> seveas: thats true but its said : gnome is shutting down and then i pressed the restart button
[09:44] <HappyFool> veronica: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:45] <kong0> and now that error message isnt going away
[09:45] <microhaxo> seveas it works
[09:45] <microhaxo> i can see em
[09:45] <Seveas> ok, nice :)
[09:45] <yahalom> any of u guys chat through opera?
[09:45] <HappyFool> veronica: that will be quite a bit to type though
[09:45] <veronica> HappyFool:it on a different box
[09:45] <yahalom> the irc client in opera that is
[09:45] <Seveas> opera is a browser, not a chat client :)
[09:45] <kong0> if i dont have any sound what should i do?
[09:46] <HappyFool> veronica: you were asking about RAID earlier, i think -- i don't know anything about that
[09:46] <Seveas> it would be the same as having a text editor that is also a browser, mail client, etc...
[09:46] <Seveas> oh wait there's emacs...
[09:46] <HappyFool> Seveas: hey, watch it :P
[09:46] <veronica> im not worries about raid right now...
[09:46] <yahalom> Seveas, it has an embedded irc client, just like it has e-mail
[09:46] <kong0> it sais input module missing
[09:46] <microhaxo> Guys
[09:46] <microhaxo> how do i use Secure connection through GFTP?
[09:46] <HappyFool> veronica: ok
[09:46] <veronica> i jsut want to access /home on my second drive
[09:46] <yahalom> Seveas, it connected to irc.opera.com but not irc.freenode.net, even though others succeeded
[09:46] <nalioth> microhaxo: select ssh2 from the dropdown box
[09:46] <saik0> microhaxo: sftp?
[09:46] <microhaxo> coo
[09:46] <HappyFool> veronica: how long is your /etc/fstab? how many lines?
[09:46] <microhaxo> no fgtp
[09:47] <microhaxo> gftp
[09:47] <HappyFool> veronica: i only really need to see the entry for '/' and for '/home'
[09:47] <veronica> HappyFool: 6 lines
[09:47] <nalioth> brb
[09:47] <yahalom> Seveas, i didnt know about it till today :)
[09:47] <kbrooks> veronica: cat /etc/fstab | wc -l
[09:47] <saik0> microhaxo: sftp is a protocol, gftp is a client. what are you trying to connect to?
[09:48] <microhaxo> secure FTP server
[09:48] <HappyFool> veronica: and i will need to see the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' , but i don't need the headers -- start from the line starting with '/dev/'
[09:48] <lpk> I need to launch xbindkeys on startup, how can i add that to GDM?
[09:48] <Seveas> microhaxo, you see a drop down box with protocols
[09:48] <Seveas> ftp, http, etc...
[09:48] <Seveas> use SSH2 there
[09:48] <veronica> HappyFool: with that command there are 9 lines
[09:48] <microhaxo> it sticks on 3 protocol initialization
[09:48] <kong0> Doesnt ANYbody know? am i supposed to install drivers for my soundcard?!!
[09:48] <microhaxo> ?
[09:49] <Seveas> microhaxo, otherwise use places->connect to server
[09:49] <HappyFool> veronica: ok, can you type out those lines at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl ?
[09:49] <kong0> ffs man
[09:49] <saik0> nalioth: microhaxo: select ssh2 from the dropdown box....what he said
[09:49] <Seveas> HappyFool, there's a commandline script to post it at the pastebin :)
[09:49] <HappyFool> Seveas: machine is not networked, i don't think
[09:49] <kong0> ok...an easier question: DID you akl
[09:49] <Seveas> o
[09:49] <theD3viL> What is this error? xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL?
[09:49] <HappyFool> Seveas: and probably in recovery mode (eek)
[09:49] <kong0> fuck..all isntall drivers for your sound?
[09:50] <HappyFool> kong0: not usually
[09:50] <Seveas> kong0, usually you don't need to
[09:50] <Seveas> I never had to (12 machines)
[09:50] <kong0> then should i install something else?
[09:50] <reka> theD3viL: what are you trying to open?
[09:50] <kong0> like java?
[09:50] <theD3viL> reka, wmv file.
[09:50] <reka> theD3viL: codecs installed?
[09:50] <HappyFool> kong0: when you login, do you here any sounds ?
[09:50] <kong0> i have xmms but that one went broke
[09:51] <reka> xine comes with codecs doesn't it?
[09:51] <theD3viL> reka, i have installed it
[09:51] <kong0> nah..but i hear sound when i open folders and such
[09:51] <HappyFool> kong0: so you do hear some sounds ?
[09:51] <kong0> yes
[09:51] <Seveas> kong0, ahhh, just not in xmms right?
[09:51] <Seveas> or other programs
[09:51] <kong0> i dont hear music and videos
[09:51] <Seveas> kong0, which media player do you use?
[09:51] <kong0> it sais inputmodule missing
[09:52] <Seveas> oww, codec problem :)
[09:52] <kong0> totem
[09:52] <Seveas> totem-gstreamer (standard) or totem-xine?
[09:52] <Seveas> and which file formats?
[09:52] <redLAW> i hvae problem with compiling programs witt ./configure command, ./configure tells me that i'dont have GLIB on my system
[09:52] <kong0> there were no decoders found to handle the stream
[09:52] <racket2424> hey, how would I go about giving myself write priveledges to an external hard drive?
[09:52] <Seveas> redLAW, install glib-dev
[09:52] <HappyFool> veronica: i assume you're typing stuff at the paste-bin -- please let us know when you're finished. post the final url here
[09:52] <Seveas> racket2424, what is the filesystem
[09:52] <kong0> i couldnt find mplayer in synaptics
[09:53] <Seveas> kong0: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[09:53] <kong0> would it be in multimedia?
[09:53] <redLAW> Seveas, is it on cd
[09:53] <Seveas> kong0, read that
[09:53] <reka> theD3viL: i defer to Seveas. it sounds like a codec problem, but i'm not sure if xine comes with it's own codecs or not
[09:53] <kong0> well i cant install files in zip...
[09:53] <Seveas> xine comes with own codecs
[09:53] <kong0> somehow its not working...
[09:53] <magog> get vlc it comes with codecs
[09:53] <Seveas> redLAW, no
[09:53] <racket2424> its a an ndas
[09:53] <theD3viL> reka, i have installed w32codecs
[09:54] <redLAW> when will be dvd of ubuntu done?
[09:54] <Seveas> dennis@mirage ~ $ apt-cache search libglib | grep dev
[09:54] <Seveas> libglib1.2-dev - Development files for GLib library
[09:54] <Seveas> libglib2.0-dev - Development files for the GLib library
[09:54] <lsuactiafner> theD3viL : on an 64bit system?
[09:54] <Seveas> redLAW, there is one
[09:54] <Octane> is there a guide to building ubuntu kernels?
[09:54] <Seveas> Octane, yes
[09:54] <Seveas> on the wiki
[09:54] <Octane> Seveas, great thanks man
[09:54] <klaym> is there some point and click style war games for ubuntu? (warcraft, starcraft, c&c, kknd etc. type)
[09:55] <mjr> klaym, freecraft comes to mind
[09:55] <reka> klaym: did you check out the ubforums topic?
[09:55] <hondje> klaym: wesnoth
[09:55] <fesja> hi, how could it be possible that i have beagle installed twice? throught the apt were all the changes i made
[09:55] <racket2424> Seveas....it is a NDAS network drive connected via USB
[09:56] <bufalo73> hi
[09:56] <nalioth> redLAW: dvd is available by torrent atm
[09:56] <klaym> reka: yea I searched it but typing my question here gets a faster answer :)
[09:56] <reka> klaym: lazy bugger.
[09:56] <veronica> HappyFool: i dont hink I'll be able to ....im trying to work something about
[09:56] <redLAW> nalioth, is there any download url with .iso dvd file
[09:56] <Octane> Seveas, i run kubuntu, should i follow these same instructions?
[09:57] <lsuactiafner> btw is there a tool to test a kernel if it will boot before rebooting it?
[09:57] <Seveas> Octane, yes
[09:57] <Seveas> racket2424, that should mount automatically
[09:57] <Seveas> i guess it didn't?
[09:57] <masahiro> Nope, still no joy :(
[09:57] <racket2424> it mounts, but I am not given write privledges
[09:57] <racket2424> i can read, and execute
[09:57] <matjan_> how do i enable the universe repository?
[09:58] <reka> ubotu: tell matjan_ about repositories
[09:58] <kong0> hey man that site didnt help a thing...cant u just say some codecs so i can emerge them?
[09:58] <HappyFool> matjan_: you can use synaptic
[09:58] <Seveas> racket2424, is it NTFS perhaps?
[09:58] <HappyFool> matjan_: synaptic is at system->administration->synaptic
[09:58] <HappyFool> matjan_: in that application, choose settings->repositories, and click 'Add'
[09:58] <nalioth> redLAW: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/
[09:59] <matjan_> hwppyfool: thanks
[09:59] <kong0> Guess you couldnt then...!!
[09:59] <racket2424> seveas, I just checked the online site, and yea it is preformatted to ntfs
[10:00] <Seveas> racket2424, there is no easy way to write to ntfs from linux
[10:00] <veronica> HappyFool: that machine will not go into the desktop  so i cant paste...
[10:00] <reka> kong0: this isn't gentoo
[10:00] <HappyFool> veronica: yes. so type ;)
[10:00] <bufalo73> racket2424, maybe using captive?
[10:00] <veronica> the machine thinks my home directory is in /home/rui
[10:00] <Seveas> the difficult way is compiling luks and captive NTFS, having windows installed on your PC and hoping it works (this is of course not for the lighthearted)
[10:00] <masahiro> i still have no sound :'(
[10:00] <HappyFool> you can access the web from the machine you are ircing from?
[10:00] <veronica> HappyFool: rui is me
[10:01] <pvh> Hi, I'm having trouble getting java applets to run under Firefox. I have Java enabled under the options and about:plugins shows it as being there and still no love. Could someone help me figure out what's wrong?
[10:01] <veronica> HappyFool: so i have to tell it that its on a different drive?
[10:01] <Octane> Seveas, im a little confused as to which howto i shoul dfollow
[10:01] <racket2424> so, my best bet would be to reformat in FAT?
[10:01] <veronica> HappyFool: yes.....
[10:01] <bufalo73> Seveas, on a hoary kernel half of this work is already done
[10:01] <HappyFool> veronica: it is difficult for me to help you without the information i have requested
[10:01] <Seveas> Octane, pick one that says: use make-kpkg
[10:01] <veronica> HappyFool:ok
[10:01] <HappyFool> veronica: i need to know how ubuntu has tried to mount /home, and what your partitions are
[10:01] <bufalo73> racket2424, try first installing captive
[10:02] <Octane> "Unfortunately, the rest of this document describes make-kpkg because I didn't know better when I wrote it. I suggest following either the KernelByHandHowto (if you just want everything to work) or the KernelBuildpackageHowto (if you plan on developing or modifying the kernel often)."
[10:02] <HappyFool> veronica: if you do not want to use the pastebin, you can send it to me in irc using /query
[10:02] <X7C> i need help on a DLINK DWL-G520+ running on ubuntu... anybody has one of these running?
[10:02] <Seveas> Octane, just read'em all (it's good to have read different views) and pick the one you like :)
[10:03] <masahiro> So how can I get the sound to work?
[10:03] <Octane> Seveas, im still stuck on trying to figure out whihch packages i need to get ! :)
[10:03] <kbrooks> pick one wwwwway
[10:03] <Harti> hi
[10:03] <Randall> how would I skip the timezone setup during install
[10:03] <bufalo73> X7C, try http://www.metacrawler.com/info.metac/search/web/DWL-G520%252B+linux
[10:04] <Seveas> Octane, at least build-essential, linux-source-2.6.10-5 and kernel-package
[10:04] <X7C> thanks... i'm having a hard time on this one....
[10:04] <Octane> why 2.6.10 and not 2.6.11?
[10:04] <Seveas> Octane, apt-get build-dep linux-image-2.6.10-5-686
[10:04] <Seveas> :)
[10:04] <Harti> sorry for my bad english. how can i play .wax files in ubuntu?
[10:04] <Octane> running amd64 :)
[10:04] <Seveas> Octane, 2.6.11 is not supported and known to contain bugs
[10:04] <Seveas> Octane, apt-get build-dep linux-image-2.6.10-5-amd64
[10:04] <Octane> thats a good reason!
[10:04] <bartekp> hi
[10:04] <kong0> How Do You Open Zip Files And Install Them? All I Get Is A List Of Files Wich I Cant Open...
[10:04] <kong0> ??
[10:05] <Seveas> kong0, please don't use excessive caps...
[10:05] <bufalo73> Harti, wax? isn't it wav? :)
[10:05] <poco> hi
[10:05] <Harti> no .wax
[10:05] <Seveas> kong0, unxip <zipfile>
[10:05] <kong0> okey?
[10:05] <Seveas> unzip*
[10:05] <Harti> its i livestream
[10:05] <Seveas> and read the README file
[10:05] <kbrooks> I want to use SELinux.
[10:05] <kong0> there are none
[10:05] <masahiro> WHEN I start Volume Control, it says "No volume control elements and/or devices found.".
[10:05] <Seveas> kong0, then read other sources of documentation that are in the zipfile...
[10:06] <kbrooks> is there a packagee enabling selinux
[10:06] <Octane> i also need kernel-package and build-essential
[10:06] <poco> is it possible to install an ubuntu from an existing linux distro, without using an install cdrom?
[10:06] <Seveas> Octane, yes :)
[10:06] <veronica> HappyFool:ok here goes
[10:06] <veronica> proc          /proc   /proc      default       0      0
[10:06] <veronica> /dev/had1     /        ext3     defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[10:06] <veronica> /devv/sda1    /home     ext3     default,     0     2
[10:06] <veronica> /dev/hda2     none      swap      sw          0      0
[10:06] <veronica> /dev/hdc      /media/cdrom0 UDF-ISO9660
[10:06] <veronica> RO,user,noauto   0                0
[10:06] <veronica> /dev/fd0/   media/floppy0   auto    rw,user,noauto   0  0
[10:06] <HappyFool> veronica: no
[10:06] <HappyFool> aargh
[10:06] <veronica> 
[10:06] <HappyFool> i said use the pastebin
[10:06] <Seveas> poco, only if the distribution is based on debian :)
[10:06] <HappyFool> or /query me
[10:06] <veronica> sorry
[10:06] <Seveas> veronica, DO NOT PASTE IN HERE
[10:06] <Seveas> read the topic
[10:06] <poco> Seveas, im using a debian, i just read some lines about ubuntu and want to try it
[10:06] <Seveas> and read what people say, it's been said to you numerous times...
[10:06] <jbroome> kick!
[10:07] <Octane> poco, what are you waiting for
[10:07] <poco> but dont have a cdr at the moment
[10:07] <Octane> poco,  do a net install
[10:07] <poco> Octane, any url ?
[10:07] <Seveas> poco, do you want to upgrade your debian to Ubuntu?
[10:07] <Seveas> or install Ubuntu on the side?
[10:07] <Octane> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocalNetInstall?highlight=%28netinstall%29
[10:07] <cristi> hy
[10:07] <masahiro> Anybody feeling helpful too total linux noobs?
[10:07] <poco> Seveas, upgrade
[10:07] <Harti> bufalo73: this http://radioleipzig.stream.green.ch/radioleipzig.wax
[10:07] <poco> Octane, thanks
[10:07] <New2Linux> what linux distibution is the UBUNTU distro functional with [debian/fedoera/redhat, etc.] ?
[10:07] <Seveas> poco, are you running woody or a recent sarge?
[10:07] <microhaxo> Arg
[10:07] <poco> Seveas, a recent sarge
[10:07] <microhaxo> guys help me with this FTP deal
[10:07] <microhaxo> lol
[10:07] <Seveas> New2Linux, you're not making sense...
[10:08] <microhaxo> i cant connect
[10:08] <Di42lo`> someone knows how can i play *.mpc files on xmms ?
[10:08] <microhaxo> i select ssh2 and enter in info
[10:08] <microhaxo> and it times out
[10:08] <Seveas> poco, hmm, upgrading will be difficult then since sarge has a newer glibc
[10:08] <poco> Seveas, so possible ?
[10:08] <masahiro> :(
[10:08] <Seveas> microhaxo, have you tried the menu places -> connect to server in gnome?
[10:08] <microhaxo> yea
[10:08] <microhaxo> it doesnt have a box for password?
[10:08] <Seveas> poco, maybe even impossible, but at least unsupported
[10:08] <nurdiyana> hello all :)
[10:09] <masahiro> If I can't get the sound to work, I'll just have to stick to windoze
[10:09] <rubberchipmunk> hi everyone
[10:09] <Octane> man the wiki has so much information
[10:09] <Seveas> poco, you can try setting your sources.list to ubuntu sources and dist-upgrading and installing the ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[10:09] <rubberchipmunk> i've got a question about sound in ubuntu hoary
[10:09] <nurdiyana> got a weird dependency pb .. with mplayer-custom ..
[10:09] <New2Linux> you know for ex. i want to install a program for example flash player, there is no listing for a download for UBUNTU, only for redhat, suse, debian, and other more known linux distos. which one should i download, since there is none for UBUNTU distro?
[10:09] <Seveas> poco, or you can wait a month until Breezy stabilizes and upgrade a bit more smoothly :)
[10:09] <lsuactiafner> hmmm, can linux do dynamic on the fly overclocking?
[10:09] <Seveas> New2Linux, debian
[10:09] <kiwnix> New2Linux: maybe debian can fit
[10:10] <lsuactiafner> need to warm my room up
[10:10] <masahiro> rubberchipmunk, I can't get sound to work either
[10:10] <Seveas> masahiro/rubberchipmuk, what's the problem?
[10:10] <poco> Seveas, Breezy ? what's that?
[10:10] <bufalo73> Harti, it's an ASX
[10:10] <microhaxo> what is the default folder of a ftp to connect to?
[10:10] <nurdiyana> with libavcodec2 that is not going to be installed ( not in my synaptic ,, )
[10:10] <New2Linux> the ones for suse, redhat, or fedora can't work right?
[10:10] <rubberchipmunk> i don't think ubuntu detected my sound driver
[10:10] <rubberchipmunk> i'm not getting any sound output whatsoever
[10:10] <Seveas> poco, Breezy is the development version of Ubuntu
[10:10] <Ninwa> How can one determine which processes are using how much resources. I've had my machine on for only a few days now and it seems to be bogging down, having 512 MB of RAM and only a few applications that I opened, open, this seems odd.
[10:10] <Seveas> rubberchipmunk, also no gnome sounds?
[10:10] <rubberchipmunk> I know for a fact it's not a problem with my card or speakers, those work fine in winblows
[10:10] <Harti> bufalo73: and how i can play this?
[10:11] <poco> Seveas, so i could try to install breezy?
[10:11] <masahiro> I can't get any sound either
[10:11] <rubberchipmunk> yeah, no sounds
[10:11] <Octane> is there a w32codecs package for amd64?
[10:11] <Seveas> poco, see topic :)
[10:11] <bufalo73> New2Linux, ubuntu is a debian package distro
[10:11] <Seveas> breezy is unstable
[10:11] <masahiro> I think I have the same problem as rubberchipmunk
[10:11] <bufalo73> Harti, try mplayer
[10:11] <Harti> hmm.. ok
[10:11] <Seveas> rubberchipmunk, do you have 2 soundcards or an onboard soundchip and a real soundcard?
[10:11] <thenuke> I think that breezy is kind of testing rather than unstable, at the moment
[10:11] <lsuactiafner> Octane : nope, but you can install a static 32bit binary on your system to play wmv files
[10:11] <New2Linux> ok, thank bufalo73... i never knew that, thanks again
[10:11] <Seveas> same question for masahiro
[10:11] <Harti> but, the codecs from the mplayer site i have fully installed
[10:11] <masahiro> I just have onboard.
[10:11] <rubberchipmunk> i have one soundcard, i'm unsure if I have an onboard speaker, but I think I do
[10:11] <thenuke> debian unstable works ok, but testing for sure not ;)
[10:11] <New2Linux> let me download the flash...
[10:11] <New2Linux> brb
[10:12] <lsuactiafner> Ninwa : run top
[10:12] <bufalo73> actually, Harti, the real URL is mms://stream.green.ch/RadioLeipzig
[10:12] <Octane> lsuactiafner, would you mind explaining that?
[10:12] <lsuactiafner> Ninwa : however, linux doesnt bog down.
[10:12] <sami> how can i star the file browser in terminal window?
[10:12] <lambert_> rehello
[10:12] <bufalo73> this wax file is just a "html" (sort of) with a link to this other URL
[10:12] <Seveas> rubberchipmunk, try plugging your speakers in your onboard soundcard and see if you get sound
[10:13] <lsuactiafner> Octane : basically i can send you a 3mb bzip2 binary you can use to play wmv files or you can compile a static binary yourself
[10:13] <rubberchipmunk> they're pluggeed in
[10:13] <rubberchipmunk> i dual boot with winblows and everything works fine
[10:13] <lsuactiafner> i did email the mplayer maintainer and he aint bothered.
[10:13] <masahiro> everything is plugged in here also
[10:13] <masahiro> same here
[10:13] <Octane> lsuactiafner, would you mind sending that?
[10:13] <masahiro> just installed today
[10:13] <Harti> bufalo73: thanks
[10:13] <Seveas> masahiro, search google/forums for your chipset and see which driver it needs
[10:13] <rubberchipmunk> i beleive hoary didn't detect my card or it might be a driver issue
[10:13] <masahiro> ah ok
[10:14] <masahiro> all i know is that it is an asus and im pretty sure it's compatible with ac '97
[10:14] <Seveas> rubberchipmunk, if you have both an onboard soundcard and a real soundcard, Ubuntu by default chooses the onboard one
[10:14] <lsuactiafner> Octane : i'll upload somewhere, but i'm on a 5k/s cnnection.. so i will paste you a link and then go check in a few hours
[10:14] <lambert_> I have install konqueror and desktop on ubuntu but it's in english.how I can do for to have konqueror in french? (escuse my english)
[10:14] <Seveas> that's why i said try plugging the speakers in the onboard card
[10:14] <Octane> lsuactiafner, i dont want you to trouble youself man
[10:14] <rubberchipmunk> i didn't understand what you meant earlier
[10:14] <Octane> lsuactiafner, got at least a link where info on how to compile it?
[10:14] <rubberchipmunk> i onl have one sound card
[10:14] <Seveas> lambert_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:14] <rubberchipmunk> sry bout that
[10:14] <sami> how can i star the file browser in terminal window?
[10:14] <Seveas> lambert_, and there is #ubuntu-fr too :)
[10:15] <lambert_> yes but they no respond
[10:15] <Octane> Seveas,  is on a roll, like always
[10:15] <unreal> christopher lambert? :)
[10:15] <lambert_> thanks
[10:15] <lambert_> oui?
[10:15] <Seveas> rubberchipmunk, then same suggestion for you: google/search the forum for your chipset+linux+driver and see which driver you need
[10:15] <unreal> lol
[10:15] <lambert_> yes?
[10:15] <rubberchipmunk> ok
[10:15] <lambert_> oh no
[10:15] <rubberchipmunk> thank you
[10:15] <Octane> Seveas, do i need linux-tree as well?
[10:15] <hondje> christopher lambert...that names familiar
[10:15] <lambert_> ahahah
[10:15] <unreal> lambert: there can be only one.. prepare to die ;)
[10:15] <HappyFool> christopher lambert is from scotland, darn it
[10:15] <masahiro> i'll investagate further, so brb
[10:15] <lambert_> it's my real surname (prenom)
[10:15] <unreal> lol no, christopher lambert is french
[10:15] <hondje> lambert_: are you a physicist?
[10:15] <masahiro> im pretty sure that its ac97 th
[10:15] <lsuactiafner> Octane : will upload info also
[10:15] <Seveas> Octane, iirc not
[10:15] <unreal> he just plays a scottish person in highlander :)
[10:16] <HappyFool> unreal: you mean that movie isn't a true story?
[10:16] <lambert_> no I'm not a physicist what for?
[10:16] <Seveas> masahiro, isn't snd_ac97_codec loaded then?
[10:16] <New2Linux> problem here, Debian Flashplugin-nonfree (contrib unstable)
[10:16] <Seveas> masahiro, try lsmod | grep ac97
[10:16] <hondje> lambert_: trying to place the name
[10:16] <unreal> back in a while
[10:16] <Seveas> if it's not loaded: sudo modprob sound_ac97_codec
[10:16] <Seveas> modprobe*
[10:16] <lambert_> I'm the last
[10:16] <nurdiyana> where to get w32codec thingy ?
[10:16] <masahiro> do i google for those?
[10:17] <Seveas> nurdiyana, you can get codecs from mplayerhq.hu
[10:17] <lambert_> I cut your head ;)
[10:17] <lsuactiafner> Octane : uploadin instructions also
[10:17] <Octane> lsuactiafner, great thanks mate
[10:17] <jbroome> vi vi vi vi
[10:17] <HappyFool> Razor-X: what do you need to do?
[10:17] <Seveas> lambert_, stop creating noise, this is a help channel
[10:17] <lambert_> yes
[10:17] <nurdiyana> Seveas, no deb line for sources.list ?
[10:17] <lambert_> escuse me
[10:17] <Seveas> masahiro, no sound_ac97_codec is already there...
[10:17] <sami> how can i star the file browser in terminal window?
[10:17] <Seveas> nurdiyana, you can try marillat
[10:17] <jbroome> sami: mc?
[10:17] <JRlinux> Are Gnoppix questions OK here?
[10:17] <Seveas> sami: nautilus
[10:17] <Razor-X> HappyFool: the color themes don't look a smidge like the previews they show online
[10:17] <masahiro> is there a way to enable it?
[10:18] <Razor-X> JRlinux: try #gnoppix
[10:18] <lambert_> hondje I don't understand "tryinbg to place a name"?
[10:18] <Seveas> JRlinux, if they'r not too Gnoppix specific ;)
[10:18] <HappyFool> Razor-X: um, color themes? you mean font-locking / syntax highlighting ?
[10:18] <Razor-X> HappyFool: mmmmhmmmm
[10:18] <JRlinux> Razor... Gnoppix would not let me in !!
[10:18] <Razor-X> HappyFool: well, this is Day 2 with emacs
[10:18] <hondje> lambert_: the name chistopher lambert
[10:18] <Razor-X> JRlinux: try plain #knoppix
[10:18] <HappyFool> Razor-X: M-x font-lock-mode<enter>
[10:18] <Seveas> Razor-X, you can get colors by exiting emacs and starting vim :)
[10:18] <Razor-X> HappyFool: how would I go about doing syntax highlighting+
[10:19] <microhaxo> wtf
[10:19] <lambert_> but lambert it's my real surname (prenom)
[10:19] <New2Linux> is ubuntu compatible with LINUX x86??
[10:19] <Seveas> :set syntax latex
[10:19] <masahiro> seveas, is there a way for me to enable the sound card driver?
[10:19] <Razor-X> Seveas: i'm combatting my :wq muscle memory
[10:19] <microhaxo> im trying to connect to this FTP via places connect and it says my password is invalid
[10:19] <JRlinux> Seveas I was blown away that Gnoppix would work on my old laptop, but I could not get wireless going.  It did not recognize the command "pump -i ath)"
[10:19] <masahiro> sorry if im acting like a noob but i am a noob to linux
[10:19] <microhaxo> i have used my password for over 3 years now
[10:19] <Seveas> masahiro, try modprobe sound_ac97_codec
[10:19] <microhaxo> no way its invalid
[10:19] <JRlinux> ath0, that is
[10:19] <Seveas> microhaxo, typo? :)
[10:19] <hondje> masahiro: we were all newbies once
[10:20] <HappyFool> Razor-X: have you tried M-x font-lock-mode<enter>
[10:20] <microhaxo> nah
[10:20] <masahiro> FATAL: Module sound_ac97_codec not found.
[10:20] <microhaxo> i did it 14 times
[10:20] <microhaxo> lol
[10:20] <Razor-X> HappyFool: will try
[10:20] <microhaxo> its my phone number
[10:20] <microhaxo> how hard is it to typo that
[10:20] <HappyFool> Razor-X: this site is good for emacs: http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki
[10:20] <JRlinux> Would be tempted to install Ubuntu on the laptop if it did wireless....
[10:20] <jbroome> JRlinux: does it fine
[10:21] <sami> nautilus command works, thanks Seveas!
[10:21] <Seveas> JRlinux, wireless is OK in ubuntu
[10:21] <lambert_> goodbye good night ^^
[10:21] <Seveas> JRlinux, I use wireless right now :)
[10:21] <Razor-X> and, another question
[10:21] <microhaxo> seveas, i have my password encoded, is there a way to decode it? its encoded with flashfxp's security deal
[10:21] <JRlinux> Seveas, how can I get it going on the Gnoppix live Ubuntu version I have up now?
[10:21] <masahiro> serveas: I am getting "FATAL: Module sound_ac97_codec not found.
[10:21] <masahiro> ".
[10:21] <Seveas> microhaxo, no idea :)
[10:21] <Razor-X> how can I get Konsole to recognize Right-Alt as M?
[10:21] <microhaxo> lol
[10:21] <Seveas> "gnoppix live ubuntu version"??
[10:21] <HappyFool> Razor-X: this is for emacs ?
[10:22] <Razor-X> HappyFool: it'll help, yes
[10:22] <HappyFool> Razor-X: i'd run emacs outside of a konsole -- or are you ssh'ed to another machine
[10:22] <Razor-X> Left and Right Ctrl work as C in emacs, but not Right-Alt
[10:22] <rubberchipmunk> alright, I just opened my box.... it's not a sound card, it's an onboard device. It has input jacks for microphone and speakers
[10:22] <JRlinux> Gnoppix does seem to be running Ubuntu... maybe it is just a derivation of it.
[10:22] <Razor-X> HappyFool: any reason why? I may as well get aterm/eterm then?
[10:22] <yahalom> how do i find out what my localhost is for imap?
[10:22] <HappyFool> Razor-X: i think i'm not following
[10:22] <Harti> bufalo73: with mplayer it does not go also
[10:22] <HappyFool> Razor-X: are you running emacs inside the konsole ?
[10:23] <JRlinux> (the Bottom screen says ?Welcom to Ubuntu Linux "The Hoary Hedgehog release."
[10:23] <Razor-X> HappyFool: is there something in Konsole that hinders emacs?
[10:23] <bufalo73> Harti, maybe there's no file to download...
[10:23] <Razor-X> HappyFool: because, i'll download aterm/eterm then
[10:23] <HappyFool> Razor-X: no, just the emacs is a .. er. X Window application
[10:23] <Razor-X> i'm using console emacs
[10:23] <HappyFool> Razor-X: you don't need to run it inside a term at all
[10:23] <Razor-X> I want it console, I don't want the GUI emacs
[10:23] <HappyFool> Razor-X: why on earth not?
[10:24] <HappyFool> anyway, i'm sure you can tweak konsole to let through alts, but i don't know how. i use gnome
[10:24] <Harti> bufalo73: hmm
[10:24] <Razor-X> A) Because I love CLI B) because it takes less RAM C) Because I have almost anything important running in several Terminal windows
[10:24] <Razor-X> HappyFool: ahhh, ok, i'll ask in Kubuntu ;)
[10:24] <HappyFool> Razor-X: hm. you can run shells inside emacs ;)
[10:24] <theD3viL> No plugin found to handle this resource (mmst://213.250.2.175/24ur.com/2005-06/6047608-2.wmv) <- what is this ?!
[10:24] <HappyFool> Razor-X: quite seriously, emacs works better outside consoles
[10:24] <Harti> bufalo73: ok thanks for help.. bye
[10:24] <Razor-X> HappyFool: or so I heard ;)
[10:25] <Razor-X> HappyFool: you sure?
[10:25] <HappyFool> Razor-X: well, imo
[10:25] <Razor-X> the thing is, I don't want an X window floating in space
[10:25] <Razor-X> I generally have only 2 X windows, Konsole, and Opera
[10:25] <Razor-X> and, occasionally, VLC if i'm watching something
[10:25] <Razor-X> X is just there to look pretty, nothing more ;)
[10:26] <bufalo73> HappyFool, and inside twin?
[10:26] <HappyFool> bufalo73: err, don't know twin
[10:26] <HappyFool> Razor-X: i guess my expectations are different
[10:26] <bufalo73> twin -> ncurses windows
[10:27] <HappyFool> Razor-X: anyway, ask in kubuntu about the M- thing
[10:27] <_kevin> when is the new gaim 1.3.1 update for ubuntu comming
[10:28] <lsuactiafner> theD3viL : 64bit system?
[10:28] <_kevin> 1.3.0 has security issues so i cannot use it
[10:28] <HappyFool> bufalo73: i've used X in console only mode (i.e., no x) -- that was ok. i guess twin would be similar (?)
[10:28] <Razor-X> mmmm, i'm looking at twin
[10:28] <Razor-X> is it better than screen?
[10:28] <lsuactiafner> anyway theD3viL install the firefox mplayer plugin if on a 32bit system
[10:29] <masahiro> .
[10:29] <Dalkus> http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/images/3ubuntu.jpg <-- lol
[10:29] <masahiro> Is the toe next to your big toe bigger than your big toe?
[10:30] <fetman> it's longer
[10:30] <fetman> or hmm
[10:30] <fetman> it's positioned futher ahead then your big toe I think
[10:31] <mjr> hmm, totem-gstreamer seems to play video decently for a change. Wonder if that's luck.
[10:31] <Razor-X> mjr: 's why I use VLC
[10:33] <microhaxo> is there a particular reason why it takes over 5 min to open a file on my NTFS drive?
[10:33] <mjr> Razor-X, I've used totem-xine (and xine for dvb), but might give the Way of the Future a shot again ;)
[10:33] <lsuactiafner> microhaxo : what kind of file with what edittor?
[10:34] <microhaxo> no file
[10:34] <microhaxo> browsing
[10:34] <microhaxo> folders
[10:34] <lsuactiafner> cant imagine why..
[10:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> DOES ANyone understand the concept of key blinding?
[10:36] <lsuactiafner> BROKEN_LADDER : YES!
[10:36] <jbroome> that's when the keys poke you in the eye, isn't it?
[10:37] <HappyFool> jbroome: take the keyboard out of your own eye before seeking the key in your brother's!
[10:37] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER,  http://www.comodogroup.com/research/crypto/CDW_RSA2003.ppt <<-- is a thing that proports to
[10:37] <lsuactiafner> no its when you tie the keys up with your mouse's cable..
[10:38] <microhaxo> Is there protection on the system32 folder of windows
[10:38] <microhaxo> zu
[10:38] <microhaxo> cuz
[10:38] <microhaxo> i have waited 5 min and it still wont open the folder
[10:38] <lsuactiafner> microhaxo : prolly
[10:38] <HappyFool> microhaxo: didn't you say some files had gone missing from your ntfs partition?
[10:38] <microhaxo> yea
[10:38] <microhaxo> im REPLACING ME
[10:38] <microhaxo> them
[10:38] <microhaxo> lol
[10:38] <HappyFool> microhaxo: maybe that hard-drive, or partition, are screwed
[10:38] <microhaxo> noo
[10:38] <microhaxo> its new
[10:38] <microhaxo> 200 giger
[10:39] <microhaxo> what is pissing me off is: its taking over 10 min to open a DAMN folder
[10:39] <microhaxo> ...
[10:39] <lsuactiafner> 200G is huge enough to make error rate % high
[10:39] <HappyFool> newness does not preclude brokenness
[10:39] <HappyFool> it sounds like something is broken to me *shrug*
[10:39] <lsuactiafner> can you ls in the folder?
[10:39] <nalioth> microhaxo: this should tell you why NTFS mixed with linux is not a good idea
[10:39] <microhaxo> i have no idea how to do that
[10:39] <microhaxo> lol
[10:39] <microhaxo> THis is on a SEPERATE damn hard drive
[10:40] <microhaxo> linux = 60 gig wdigital
[10:40] <microhaxo> Windows = 200 gig maxtor
[10:40] <Octane> anyone know what do i have to enable in my kernel's config to make sure DMA works (VIA motherboard)
[10:41] <microhaxo> ah shit
[10:41] <matjan_> so much for universe repository.... if i can't get on the internet under linux, that won't work... :-S
[10:41] <microhaxo> i cant WRITE DATA TO NTFS CANT I!
[10:41] <ThE__OnE> how can i put the windows that appear on the botton, together tith the taskbar
[10:41] <_kevin> when I'm recording with streamripper, it by default sets the songs genre to Blues, if there a way for it to detect it, or not use anything
[10:41] <HappyFool> microhaxo: if the drive is broken, there is nothing linux or windows can do about it
[10:41] <nalioth> microhaxo: if you don't like or want your NTFS partition, write to it all you like (once or twice)
[10:41] <ompaul> microhaxo, please please please me, turn off caps lock#
[10:42] <microhaxo> lol
[10:42] <microhaxo> ahh
[10:42] <microhaxo> i looked at the permitons of sys32
[10:42] <microhaxo> and my damn haard drive is fine
[10:42] <microhaxo> permissions show no writing
[10:42] <ThE__OnE> anyone?
[10:42] <lukus001> Can somone help me get my Tv card running and opperational please
[10:43] <Teddanson> does ubuntu allow me to choose between wireless networks in range via gui?
[10:43] <New2Linux> how do i access my owners account on UBUNTU, anyone please...
[10:44] <microhaxo> How do i make permission to write to my system32 foldeR?
[10:44] <HappyFool> New2Linux: what do you mean by 'owners account' ?
[10:45] <sens> hi, i was just wondering, I've got a .avi but when i play it in totem i only get sound, no video, i'm guessing it's a codec problem but i'm not sure how i'd go about fixing it
[10:45] <HappyFool> sens: you've installed w32codecs ?
[10:45] <nalioth> sens: go to www.mplayerhq.hu and download the codecs
[10:45] <microhaxo> guys, how can i set up permissions to write to ntfs?
[10:45] <sens> HappyFool, I wouldn't know, i think so
[10:46] <kbrooks> uh
[10:46] <lukus001> can somone help me install mythTv or what ever will get my hauppage Tv card to work ? =)
[10:46] <kbrooks> question
[10:46] <nalioth> microhaxo: writing to NTFS may destroy all your NTFS data
[10:46] <microhaxo> ill take that risk
[10:46] <microhaxo> lol
[10:46] <microhaxo> i have one DLL  i need to replace
[10:46] <lsuactiafner> microhaxo : but i have friends who has written to NTFS for years and no errors, but its true, bad things DO happen
[10:46] <New2Linux> you know when you install ubuntu, u create a 2 usernames, a owners and a default username or something, and when you log on you use the username... but you cant install programs or copy files to other folders, the owners account is like the adminstator in windows....
[10:46] <New2Linux> HappyFool,
[10:47] <microhaxo> i dont care i need to write ONE DLL
[10:47] <unreal> ergh, ubuntu installed fine, it just can't detect my screen, i'm sat in a terminal with a HUGE font, lol
[10:47] <sens> microhaxo: you still here! You osted in neowin but what are you doing to fix the problem?
[10:47] <nalioth> microhaxo: one DLL may cost your your windows
[10:47] <kbrooks> why doesn't X start on bootup? i tried sttarting, but gpm
[10:47] <microhaxo> I dont care
[10:47] <microhaxo> i dont have a windows cd
[10:47] <ThE__OnE> how can i put the windows that appear on the botton, together tith the taskbar
[10:47] <kbrooks> errors out
[10:47] <microhaxo> this is the dll i need to replace
[10:47] <microhaxo> kbrooks check xorg.conf
[10:48] <ThE__OnE> how can i put the windows that appear on the top, together tith the taskbar
[10:48] <HappyFool> New2Linux: that doesn't sound like ubuntu to me
[10:48] <bufalo73> microhaxo, if you have to write a dll to a ntfs partition why don't you use a 2k/xp boot cd?
[10:48] <kbrooks> no
[10:48] <microhaxo> i dont have one dammit
[10:48] <microhaxo> so
[10:48] <_kevin> The__One: Drag and Drop
[10:48] <kbrooks> bufalo73, HE DOESNT HAVE ONE
[10:48] <sens> nalioth: I've gone there and downloaded the 'essenital codecs' but how do i install a .tar.bz2?
[10:48] <microhaxo> someone tell me how the hell can i write to my ntfs disk
[10:48] <microhaxo> i need to replace one DLL
[10:49] <nalioth> sens: there are instructions on teh download page at mplayer on whre to put the files
[10:49] <kbrooks> microhaxo, let me get this straight
[10:49] <unreal> lol, this is weird, ubuntu is acting a lot nicer than other distros have with this hardware
[10:49] <sens> nalioth: ok thanks
[10:49] <kbrooks> you hate windows?
[10:49] <microhaxo> no
[10:49] <microhaxo> i love windows
[10:49] <microhaxo> lol
[10:49] <nalioth> sens: a tar.bz2 is unzipped as such "tar xvjf file.tar.bz2"
[10:49] <kbrooks> microhaxo, u j/k?
[10:49] <microhaxo> nop
[10:49] <microhaxo> love it
[10:49] <microhaxo> i also like linux
[10:49] <microhaxo> but windows has my beloved games
[10:49] <HappyFool> New2Linux: have you forgotten a password?
[10:49] <nalioth> kbrooks: i greatly ABHOR windowz
[10:49] <HappyFool> does the ubuntu kernel ntfs module come with write support enabled?
[10:49] <microhaxo> so
[10:50] <sens> nalioth: ok thanks, but i don't have mplayer, i'm using totem
[10:50] <lukus001> can somone help me with mythTV, the manual say about installing some sort of program BUT the downloads are for redhat and another OS... so how can i do it?
[10:50] <New2Linux> no
[10:50] <HappyFool> microhaxo: this place seems to have windows boot disks: http://bootdisk.com/
[10:50] <kbrooks> microhaxo: then why do you want to replace one .dll and risk losing your data in the process?
[10:50] <nalioth> sens: doesnt matter, the codecs are used by your whole system
[10:50] <sens> nalioth: ok, cheers
[10:50] <HappyFool> New2Linux: you have created two ubuntu users, as i understand?
[10:51] <microhaxo> i dont care dammit
[10:51] <microhaxo> i dont have a floppy drive
[10:51] <microhaxo> lol
[10:51] <LinuxJones> lukewarm, mythtv is in the multiverse repository
[10:51] <kbrooks> microhaxo, so...i think ure doomed
[10:51] <kbrooks> to hell
[10:51] <unreal> ...
[10:51] <Blissex> microhaxo: you can boot floppy images off a CD. There are ready made CD images for that.
[10:51] <nalioth> kbrooks: may i add my .02? <EG>
[10:51] <unreal> it looks like /usr/bin/links just disappeared
[10:51] <New2Linux> y
[10:51] <PlutoPrime> anyone found a patch for the ATI drivers that allows them to compile for 2.6.12 kernel?
[10:51] <ThE__OnE> how can i put the windows that appear on the top, together tith the taskbar
[10:52] <ThE__OnE> together*
[10:52] <ThE__OnE> like windows
[10:52] <kbrooks> nalioth, go on. and its
[10:52] <HappyFool> New2Linux: ok, and you want to login as a different user ?
[10:52] <kbrooks> 0.02
[10:52] <kbrooks> ThE__OnE,
[10:53] <ThE__OnE> ya?
[10:53] <kbrooks> right clik on the top. select add to panel
[10:53] <nalioth> kbrooks: its not $.02?
[10:53] <HappyFool> ThE__OnE: you could try dragging it to the bottom
[10:53] <HappyFool> ThE__OnE: click on the top bar, and drag it to the bottom (the mouse icon should turn into a gripping fist)
[10:53] <nalioth> kbrooks: or 2/100 of a $1?
[10:53] <lukus001> linuxjones: yeah i tried it via that way, but it was telling me i had to so something to finish it off in shell, but it's all cryptic to me
[10:54] <kbrooks> nalioth, all arer correct3, but........ ;)
[10:54] <ThE__OnE> i did
[10:54] <nalioth> kbrooks: windows is satan
[10:54] <ThE__OnE> it gets on the bottom
[10:54] <ThE__OnE> but there are 2 seperate bars
[10:54] <fetman> can anybody help me with my sound?
[10:54] <ThE__OnE> how cann combine them
[10:54] <squinn> fetman, what do u need help with sound-wise?
[10:55] <HappyFool> nalioth: what, you think anti-windows trolling in a linux channel should produce a reaction? ;)
[10:55] <kbrooks> trying to chroot
[10:55] <LinuxJones> lukus001, sorry I got your name wrong, do you remember what it said exactly ?
[10:55] <kbrooks> but
[10:55] <fetman> squinn: well, there is no sound!
[10:55] <nalioth> HappyFool: some windowz (l)users are proud of themselves
[10:55] <unreal> is there a default root password?
[10:55] <ThE__OnE> anyone?
[10:55] <unreal> heh
[10:55] <ThE__OnE> anyone?
[10:55] <kbrooks> root@ubuntu:/mnt # chroot hda1 /bin/bash
[10:55] <kbrooks> chroot: /bin/bash: No such file or directory
[10:55] <HappyFool> unreal: root is disabled by default
[10:56] <HappyFool> unreal: use 'sudo'
[10:56] <gorduxxo> ehlo
[10:56] <squinn> kbrooks, chroot %B/dev/hda1%B
[10:56] <squinn> er
[10:56] <fetman> squinn: I'm sure my soundcard works (I've tired it in windows), I'm sure the chanels aren't mute:ed, I'm sure my amplifier works
[10:56] <microhaxo> what the hell
[10:56] <squinn> What sound card?
[10:56] <gorduxxo> i have a problem...
[10:56] <microhaxo> tose boot disks are damn EXE FILES!
[10:56] <fetman> squinn: sb live
[10:56] <unreal> HappyFool: that's a bit hard without the password
[10:56] <fetman> squinn: 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a)
[10:56] <Blissex> microhaxo: thye are ZIP files too.
[10:56] <ThE__OnE> is there any way to combine the top bar with the bottom, not just put it on the bottom, but combine with it.
[10:56] <lsuactiafner> sens : tar -jxf file.tar.bz2 it will extract to all-something
[10:56] <Blissex> microhaxo: also look at UltimateBootCD.com
[10:57] <squinn> yay maybe
[10:57] <HappyFool> kbrooks: i think the directory you chroot to has to have a minimal environment in it
[10:57] <HappyFool> unreal: for sudo, use your users password
[10:57] <squinn> ironically, fetman i use an SB Live! as well
[10:57] <kbrooks> unreal, the same passwd as your first user
[10:57] <LokeDK> What package should I use to install the php-mysql extension for Apache 1.3?
[10:57] <lsuactiafner> then mv all-something/* /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[10:57] <lsuactiafner> you might need to mkdir /usr/local/lib/codecs
[10:57] <lukus001> LinuxJones: nope sorry, but i'm doing it via their website and i need to downlaod XMLTV but there isnt a version fo debian /ubuntu, just red hat and a couple of other linux distros
[10:57] <unreal> hmm, never knew that, heh
[10:57] <rubberchipmunk> im still having some trouble configuring sound
[10:57] <kbrooks> wtf?
[10:57] <squinn> and i just happened to come upon a forum post noting that some Audigys and SB Lives [same Linux drivers]  are not working in Hoary
[10:57] <lsuactiafner> sens : err i would get all- not just essential
[10:57] <fetman> squinn: kk.. it worked yesterday! and all of a sudden it just went quiet
[10:57] <squinn> and I found a fix, fetman
[10:57] <unreal> ty :)
[10:57] <nalioth> microhaxo: unzip them with unrar
[10:57] <ThE__OnE> is there any way to combine the top bar with the bottom, not just put it on the bottom, but combine with it.
[10:58] <lsuactiafner> why am i lagged this much
[10:58] <rubberchipmunk> I have an onboard sound device (Crystal CS4236) and I can't find a Linux driver for it
[10:58] <kbrooks> solved it
[10:58] <PlutoPrime> yea
[10:58] <New2Linux> sorry HappyFool, i was in a little prayer session, but yes i want to login as an adminstrator or root account
[10:58] <LinuxJones> lukus001, xmltv is available in the repos as well
[10:58] <Blissex> rubberchipmunk: thanks for letting us know...
[10:58] <HappyFool> New2Linux: root is disabled. use sudo
[10:58] <HappyFool> New2Linux: use your users password
[10:59] <PlutoPrime> ThE__OnE, http://elysium.dnsalias.net/web/desktop.jpg
[10:59] <kbrooks> HappyFool, it isnt ALL disabled, y'know
[10:59] <Octane> is there a way to get a list of all the modules you can load?
[10:59] <HappyFool> ThE__OnE: try adding a 'Window Selector' applet to the bar without it, resize it as you like, then remove the other bar
[11:00] <lukus001> LinuxJones: reposositories?.. apt-get install XMLTV?
[11:00] <New2Linux> sudo??
[11:00] <LinuxJones> lukus001, yes
[11:00] <kbrooks> superuser do
[11:00] <LinuxJones> lukus001, do you have multiverse repositories enabled ?
[11:00] <New2Linux> HappyFool, where is sudo??
[11:00] <kbrooks> New2Linux, whereis sudo
[11:00] <virtuald> why doesn't the 2.6.11 kernel get security updates?
[11:00] <microhaxo> guys
[11:01] <microhaxo> how do i burn an iso in linux?
[11:01] <kbrooks> microhaxo, ummm. k3b
[11:01] <neofax> Hello everyone!
[11:01] <New2Linux> yes kbrooks, where or what is sudo...
[11:01] <LinuxJones> lukus001, xmltv is in universe so you need both repositories added
[11:01] <microhaxo> IM runnin gnome
[11:01] <PlutoPrime> microhaxo, apt-get install gnome-baker
[11:01] <neofax> Anyone know how to change a dhcp given ip address?
[11:01] <lukus001> LinuxJones: yeah, i should ahve.. ill find out in 2 secs though =)
[11:01] <PlutoPrime> microhaxo, or go to synaptic,search for package gnome-baker
[11:01] <LinuxJones> lukus001, I can post mine to pastebin.ca for you if you want ?
[11:01] <kbrooks> ok
[11:01] <microhaxo> E: Couldn't find package gnome-baker
[11:01] <kbrooks> now to reboot
[11:02] <kbrooks> and see teh glory
[11:02] <kbrooks> of flubox
[11:02] <virtuald> doesn't packages in universe get security updates?
[11:02] <kbrooks> and twm
[11:02] <kbrooks> and.......
[11:02] <kbrooks> virtuald, no
[11:02] <virtuald> mkay
[11:02] <lukus001> that whould be good... couldnt do apt get xmltv
[11:02] <virtuald> B] 
[11:02] <kbrooks> virtuald, universe is community driven
[11:02] <djs> microhaxo: gnomebaker (no hyphen)
[11:02] <LinuxJones> microhaxo, it's not avaialble via apt in the ubuntu repositories you can find it using google
[11:02] <virtuald> B] 
[11:02] <rubberchipmunk> quit
[11:03] <kbrooks> LinuxJones, u sure its not in universe
[11:03] <lukus001> LinuxJones: got it installing now thanks =)
[11:03] <LinuxJones> kbrooks, they must have added it recently cause it's there now :)
[11:04] <microhaxo> oh
[11:04] <LinuxJones> lukus001, ok good luck
[11:04] <virtuald> i just noticed my 2.6.11 kernel is from universe B]  it's from february
[11:04] <unreal> hmm
[11:05] <unreal> any ideas why ubuntu recognises a wireless USB keyboard and not the mouse?
[11:05] <bufalo73> mmm... it thinks it's an elephant? :D
[11:06] <unreal> heh
[11:06] <kong0> where do you type in cvs commands?
[11:06] <kong0> where do you type in cvs commands?
[11:07] <HappyFool> in a terminal
[11:07] <djs> kong0: at the command prompt
[11:07] <lsuactiafner> wow am lagged
[11:07] <lsuactiafner> gonna get a 5 minute ping any second
[11:09] <microhaxo> aight
[11:09] <microhaxo> im gonna try to fix windows
[11:09] <microhaxo> brb
[11:09] <kong0> hmm im trying to type in the cvs command to dl mplayer but it doesnt work
[11:10] <Bauhn^DH> Hi, i need help with removing GRUB so windows boots by default
[11:10] <nalioth> microhaxo has a HUGE job ahead of hom
[11:11] <PlutoPrime> Bauhn^DH, you can't remove Grub if u need to boot to linux
[11:11] <PlutoPrime> Bauhn^DH, you simply need to change windows to the default OS in grub
[11:11] <lsuactiafner>  CTCP PING reply from lsuactiafner: 793.311 seconds
[11:11] <anto9us> nalioth: yeah, microsoft have been struggling with that one for years
[11:11] <lsuactiafner> wow!!
[11:11] <lsuactiafner> i'm still here
[11:11] <lsuactiafner> haha
[11:11] <lsuactiafner> huge spike
[11:12] <kong0> man im really getting angry on linux here
[11:12] <ivoks> kong0: linux?
[11:12] <kong0> yes
[11:12] <Bauhn^DH> PlutoPrime it does'nt matter if i cant use linux. i have 2 harddrives and i'm going to remove the one with linux (and grub) and replace it with a bigger. but when i boot up i get an error that grub doesn't exist. so i need to remove it
[11:12] <ivoks> kong0: define linux
[11:12] <kong0> my ubuntu
[11:12] <ivoks> kong0: it's like saying in Windows "I'm mad on kernel32.dll"
[11:12] <ivoks> because your nero isn't working
[11:12] <ivoks> :)
[11:12] <kong0> and all the irritating commands just to install a god damn codec
[11:13] <ivoks> ?
[11:13] <ivoks> kong0: who told you to use cvs to install codecs?
[11:13] <ivoks> kong0: do you know what cvs is?
[11:13] <kong0> well at least u dont have to type in 3 pages of commands just to see how much ram u use
[11:13] <djs> Bauhn^DH: You can change the "default" line /boot/grub/menu.lst so that windows boots by default
[11:13] <kong0> i have no bloody ideah and its braking me down
[11:14] <nalioth> djs: when Bauhn^DH removes his HD, grub won't be there any more
[11:14] <ivoks> kong0: CVS is system for developers
[11:14] <microhaxo> eh
[11:14] <microhaxo> damn cd wont boot
[11:14] <ompaul> kong0, get a cup of tea a breath of fresh air and come back to it in a few minutes
[11:14] <ivoks> kong0: CVS is not utility to install codecs
[11:14] <kong0> im supposed to install mplayer via cvs...
[11:14] <djs> nalioth:  Oops.  Missed that post. :)
[11:14] <ivoks> kong0: why?
[11:14] <Bauhn^DH> nalioth i've got a windows cd now, but i get an error when i boot from it, so i'm looking from an other
[11:14] <kong0> dunno how did u do?
[11:14] <ivoks> kong0: apt-get install mplayer isn't good enough for you?
[11:15] <Bauhn^DH> nalioth, i tried in safe-mode with "fixmbr" but the command didn't exist?
[11:15] <kong0> ehmm?
[11:16] <kong0> where do i put in that?
[11:16] <HappyFool> Bauhn^DH: did you try 'fdisk /mbr' ?
[11:16] <kong0> type in i mean..
[11:16] <ivoks> kong0: in console
[11:16] <kong0> wjat concole?
[11:16] <microhaxo> thats it
[11:16] <ivoks> kong0: too many years in windows, right?
[11:16] <Bauhn^DH> HappyFool, could it work when i've booted up windows normally?
[11:16] <kong0> all to many im afraid
[11:16] <microhaxo> someone tell me the command to allow WRITING OF my ntfs partition
[11:16] <HappyFool> Bauhn^DH: hmm, that's an idea actually
[11:16] <ivoks> kong0: applications/system tools/terminal
[11:16] <ivoks> kong0: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[11:17] <HappyFool> Bauhn^DH: let me see if fdisk is on my xp partition...
[11:17] <kong0> i just installed this ubuntu, and having it on my language seems to be more of a disadvatage than advatage...
[11:17] <Bauhn^DH> HappyFool i've booted windows reguarly now, but none of the commands exist
[11:17] <ivoks> microhaxo: you will have to contact microsoft for that, only they know how to write to NFS
[11:17] <kong0> got it
[11:17] <ivoks> microhaxo: you will have to contact microsoft for that, only they know how to write to NTFS
[11:17] <microhaxo> hahaha
[11:17] <microhaxo> yea right
[11:17] <microhaxo> no
[11:17] <microhaxo> give permission
[11:17] <microhaxo> ubuntu can do it
[11:17] <ivoks> write on NTFS?
[11:17] <microhaxo> yea
[11:18] <virtuald> microhaxo: google for captive ntfs
[11:18] <ivoks> man, you really want to loose your data
[11:18] <microhaxo> if you can read you can write, right ;)
[11:18] <microhaxo> I dont CARE dammit
[11:18] <microhaxo> i need to copy over one small ass DLL
[11:18] <ivoks> microhaxo: you can't write
[11:18] <HappyFool> Bauhn^DH: yeah, i can't find fdisk.exe or fixmbr.exe on my windows partition
[11:18] <nir> hi
[11:18] <sundex> Hi, all -- what do you use to read .mht (or .mhtml) files?
[11:18] <ivoks> microhaxo: you can only read
[11:18] <ivoks> microhaxo: like UFS, it's readonly
[11:18] <microhaxo> then how can i loose my data if i cant write
[11:18] <HappyFool> i wonder if i have that oem cd somewhere
[11:18] <ivoks> microhaxo: there is experimental write support
[11:18] <kong0> weell good news that didnt work...
[11:18] <nir> can i use debian pkgs , cuz i cant find anything i need in ubuntu pkglist.. :(
[11:18] <Bauhn^DH> HappyFool would it work if you uploaded them somewhere and i run them on my computer?
[11:19] <anto9us> microhaxo: exactly
[11:19] <ivoks> microhaxo: you can only write over files, preserving their size
[11:19] <microhaxo> yea
[11:19] <microhaxo> ?
[11:19] <virtuald> microhaxo: do as i said, google for captive ntfs.
[11:19] <microhaxo> k
[11:19] <ivoks> kong0: ok, lets move to next part then...
[11:19] <ivoks> kong0: type in sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:20] <ivoks> kong0: it should open a window with lot's of stuff in it
[11:20] <HappyFool> Bauhn^DH: i'm not helluva sure where my windows cd is. i don't think i've even unwrapped it
[11:20] <Bauhn^DH> HappyFool but isnt fdisk & fixmbr in ubuntu?
[11:20] <ivoks> kong0: did it?
[11:20] <microhaxo> ok
[11:20] <kong0> ivoks...the first part didnt work
[11:20] <HappyFool> Bauhn^DH: no. they are windows commands
[11:20] <microhaxo> i have a RPM
[11:20] <microhaxo> how do i install it
[11:20] <microhaxo> lol
[11:20] <HappyFool> Bauhn^DH: there is a linux fdisk, but it's different
[11:20] <kong0> unable to lock the administration directory
[11:21] <HappyFool> Bauhn^DH: it doesn't know about windows boot records
[11:21] <microhaxo> sudo alien -d name.rpm?
[11:21] <ivoks> kong0: do you have synaptic open?
[11:21] <Bauhn^DH> HappyFool ok, i'll google a bit after the files
[11:21] <ivoks> kong0:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:21] <ThE__OnE> how do i upgrade firefox, my version still shows to be 1.0.2
[11:21] <lsuactiafner> ThE__OnE : about:config change the version to 1.0.4
[11:22] <kong0> i have xmms
[11:22] <kong0> open
[11:22] <ThE__OnE> i have to update it
[11:22] <ivoks> kong0:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:22] <ivoks> kong0:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:22] <ThE__OnE> i cant download stuff
[11:22] <lsuactiafner> supposebly the 1.0.2 ubuntu version has been patched to be as safe and functional as 1.0.4
[11:22] <kong0> ive done that
[11:22] <Xenguy> microhaxo: you have an RPM for what application?
[11:22] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: ThE__OnE fine the line with "vendorsub" in it, and change taht value to 1.0.4
[11:22] <ThE__OnE> it gives me errors
[11:22] <kong0> but not the first part
[11:22] <ivoks> kong0: forget about first part
[11:22] <ThE__OnE> it gives me errors
[11:22] <ThE__OnE> when i try to download
[11:22] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: put about:config into your address bar
[11:22] <ivoks> kong0: did it open a window with text?
[11:22] <ThE__OnE> i need to uprade
[11:22] <kong0> yeah
[11:23] <ivoks> ThE__OnE: you don't need to upgrade
[11:23] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: search for "vendorsub" and on taht line, change the value to 1.0.4
[11:23] <ivoks> kong0: does it have any line that doesn't begin with #?
[11:23] <microhaxo> captive NTFS
[11:23] <kong0> a couple i think
[11:24] <ivoks> kong0: any starting with 'deb http://'?
[11:24] <kong0> yes
[11:24] <lsuactiafner> ThE__OnE : if you truly indeed need 1.0.4 dont try to install the mozilla binary, ubuntu doesnt like it.. instead. run it in a chroot with a new glibc version
[11:24] <ivoks> kong0: and ending with main?
[11:24] <kong0> no
[11:24] <kong0> i have min restricted
[11:24] <kong0> main
[11:25] <mebaran151> could some one help me find the syntax error in this script
[11:25] <Xenguy> microhaxo: apparently that application is no longer being actively developed (just 'FYI)
[11:25] <ivoks> kong0: after restricted add 'universe multiverse'
[11:25] <kong0> on console right?
[11:25] <Xenguy> microhaxo: another option might be to convert NTFS to FAT32
[11:25] <ivoks> kong0: no, in that file
[11:25] <kong0> ok
[11:25] <Bauhn^DH> HappyFool where on the windows-cd should the files be located?
[11:25] <ivoks> kong0: in that line that ends with main restricted
[11:25] <HappyFool> Bauhn^DH: eek
[11:26] <HappyFool> Bauhn^DH: um, dunno
[11:26] <Xenguy> microhaxo: (depending on your situation)
[11:26] <Bauhn^DH> HappyFool ok, w8 a minuter
[11:26] <Bauhn^DH> -r
[11:26] <ThE__OnE> so your saying i should just keep the .2 version of firefox?
[11:26] <kong0> lol i have 4 that ends with main restricted
[11:26] <nalioth> Bauhn^DH: have you found a windows cd?
[11:26] <ivoks> kong0: so, it should look something like this: deb http://hr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe main restricted multiverse
[11:26] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: read what i have sent you
[11:26] <Bauhn^DH> nalioth yes, but i cant boot from it.. so i thought maybe i could find the files manually
[11:27] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: your version of ff is updated, just not numbered coreectly
[11:27] <ivoks> kong0: instead of hr you have something else
[11:27] <ThE__OnE> you send me something?
[11:27] <kong0> min goes like this: deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[11:27] <ivoks> kong0: order of main/restricted/universe/multiverse is irrelevant
[11:27] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: read the text above and look for your nick
[11:27] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: from me
[11:27] <ivoks> kong0: that's for hoary-updates
[11:27] <nalioth> Bauhn^DH: most of that stuff is 'compressed' in evil M$ format
[11:27] <ivoks> kong0: there should be on just like that, just instead of hoary-updates, there should be only hoary
[11:27] <kong0> ok found archive
[11:28] <kong0> ?
[11:28] <Bauhn^DH> nalioth i think all the .exe-files are uncrypted or whatsoever
[11:28] <ThE__OnE> i dont need to change it, i just want to make sure the version is upto date, and if .2 is gmore stable than .4, then i will pick that
[11:28] <ivoks> kong0: do you see horay-updates in your line?
[11:28] <nalioth> Bauhn^DH: if its a exe, it may be a .com or something else
[11:29] <kong0> yeah
[11:29] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: firefox 1.0.2 from ubuntu is the SAME as 1.0.4 from mozilla.org
[11:29] <Bauhn^DH> nalioth when explorer.exe decides to begin cooperate i'll search for it
[11:29] <kong0> should i erase updates?
[11:29] <ivoks> kong0: you should have one line same as that one, just instead of hoary-updates, there should be hoary
[11:29] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: just the version number on ubuntus version was not changed (for reasons only the devs know)
[11:29] <ivoks> kong0: no
[11:29] <ivoks> kong0: you should have them both
[11:29] <TomT64> well I hope they change it for 1.0.5
[11:29] <artax> hi all
[11:29] <ThE__OnE> ok
[11:29] <ThE__OnE> thx
[11:30] <ThE__OnE> 1 more ques
[11:30] <kong0> i only have updates
[11:30] <ThE__OnE> my printer does'nt turn on
[11:30] <kong0> 2 of em
[11:30] <kong0> should i make a complete new?
[11:30] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: there is a switch in the back or perhaps a cord coming from the back
[11:30] <ThE__OnE> and i just turned them on like 2 hours ago when i was using windows
[11:30] <ivoks> kong0: ok, erase everything in that file
[11:30] <ivoks> kong0: and add lines i tell you, ok?
[11:30] <TomT64> ThE__OnE: what do you mean by not turned on
[11:30] <kong0> the whole file?
[11:30] <ThE__OnE> norm_, everything is plugged in correctly
[11:30] <ivoks> kong0: yes, everything in that file
[11:31] <kong0> ok done
[11:31] <ThE__OnE> i cant power it on
[11:31] <ivoks> kong0: now, first line:
[11:31] <ThE__OnE> normally*
[11:31] <TomT64> ThE__OnE: sounds like you need it fixed or you need to return it
[11:31] <ivoks> kong0: deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe main restricted multiverse
[11:31] <ThE__OnE> nonono
[11:31] <ThE__OnE> i just used it iin windows
[11:31] <ThE__OnE> i can use it again if i was using windows
[11:31] <kong0> ok
[11:31] <TomT64> then you mean you just can't activate it from linux
[11:31] <ThE__OnE> yes
[11:32] <ivoks> kong0: second: deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-updates universe main restricted multiverse
[11:32] <ThE__OnE> how can i activate it?
[11:32] <raux> where I can find some good script for xchat ... there must be ircop stuff
[11:32] <ivoks> kong0: third: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted universe
[11:32] <sinope> where are the scripts for the various logins kept?
[11:32] <sinope> you know.... gnome, kde, failsafe, etc
[11:32] <microhaxo> Wtf this install is stuck at : initializing captive
[11:32] <ivoks> kong0: and: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[11:32] <nalioth> sinope: /usr/share/xsessions i believe
[11:33] <ThE__OnE> anynoe?
[11:33] <ivoks> kong0: that's it... did you?
[11:33] <nalioth> microhaxo: using RPMs is always exciting
[11:33] <Guntu> any one knows what Kernel Mode Linux is ?
[11:33] <sinope> nalioth: thanks
[11:33] <kong0> 4 lines?
[11:33] <Bauhn^DH> nalioth i'll brb
[11:33] <microhaxo> this is the TGZ deal
[11:33] <ivoks> kong0: yes
[11:33] <microhaxo> i dloaded the packed one
[11:33] <kong0> and no #?
[11:33] <ivoks> kong0: all starting with deb, right?
[11:33] <microhaxo> unpacked and ran the install.sh
[11:33] <ivoks> kong0: no #
[11:33] <nalioth> microhaxo: i have no idea
[11:33] <microhaxo> its stuck there
[11:33] <Xenguy> microhaxo: tar'd and gzip'd
[11:33] <kong0> ok guess its done
[11:34] <kong0> yes
[11:34] <ivoks> kong0: ok, close it
[11:34] <microhaxo> Extracting Captive... done.
[11:34] <microhaxo> Initializing Captive...
[11:34] <microhaxo> thats all i see
[11:34] <ivoks> kong0: and, of course, save it
[11:34] <microhaxo> lol
[11:34] <kong0> NO?!
[11:34] <kong0> haha kidding
[11:34] <ivoks> kong0: now run sudo apt-get update
[11:34] <Fish-Face> Has anyone here started having problems with amsn crashing?
[11:34] <Fish-Face> i.e. segfaulting
[11:34] <kong0> kick ass
[11:35] <squinn> Fish-Face, I've heard problems with GAIM and MSN lately too.
[11:35] <kong0> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[11:35] <ivoks> kong0: i'll wait with you for possible errorrs
[11:35] <Fish-Face> squinn, no problems with gaim, here; just amsn
[11:35] <kong0> Unable to lock the administration directory
[11:35] <ivoks> kong0: you have synaptic running somewhere
[11:35] <kong0> no
[11:35] <ivoks> kong0: did you put sudo?
[11:35] <kong0> i have xmms running
[11:35] <ivoks> kong0: sudo apt-get update
[11:35] <raux> ok I'll repeat my question again:  where I can find some good script for xchat ... there must be ircop stuff ? :)
[11:35] <kong0> and i cant shut it down
[11:35] <nalioth> kong0: there is anothre apt running, or you are not root
[11:36] <kong0> haha root?
[11:36] <nalioth> raux: check the xchat home page for scripts, theres hundreds
[11:36] <ivoks> kong0: did you run 'sudo apt-get update'?
[11:36] <Fish-Face> Basically, aMSN segfaults on login - sometimes it's possible to get past login, but often a crash will randomly(?) occur, or if you're sent a custom emoticon
[11:36] <kong0> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:37] <ivoks> kong0: run this:
[11:37] <kong0> god damn thats strange
[11:37] <ivoks> kong0: ps ax | grep apt
[11:37] <kong0> in root terminal? or just terminal?
[11:37] <ivoks> kong0: there shouldn't be any line accept, maybe, grep apt
[11:37] <ivoks> kong0: it's not important
[11:37] <ivoks> kong0: any term
[11:38] <kong0> ok then?
[11:38] <raux> nalioth, I can't find right script
[11:38] <ivoks> kong0: is there any line?
[11:38] <ivoks> kong0: as output
[11:38] <kong0> 3 lines
[11:38] <kong0> including grep
[11:38] <ivoks> kong0: lol, that means you are runin apt-get somewhere
[11:38] <nalioth> raux: what exactly are you wanting to do?
[11:38] <kong0> wth...
[11:38] <kong0> i shouldnt be
[11:38] <ivoks> kong0: those other two lines, what are they called?
[11:39] <ivoks> kong0: synaptic maybe?
[11:39] <kong0> 4234 ?        S      0:00 gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic
[11:39] <kong0>  4235 ?        S      0:03 /usr/sbin/synaptic
[11:39] <ivoks> kong0: you see you are running synaptic
[11:39] <raux> nalioth,  I need an ircop menu ... akill, gline, sajoin, samode etc. this kind of stuff
[11:39] <microhaxo> wtf
[11:39] <microhaxo> my CDROM wont EJECT
[11:39] <kong0> yeah 2
[11:39] <microhaxo> the damn cd i just put in there
[11:39] <kong0> nono only in console
[11:39] <ivoks> kong0: that's graphical package tool
[11:39] <kong0> only in the terminal do i see them
[11:39] <ivoks> kong0: are you sure there is no sypatic on desktop?
[11:40] <ivoks> synaptic, even :)
[11:40] <kong0> what would they look like? the normal synaptic window?
[11:40] <ivoks> kong0: big window with packages listed in it :)
[11:41] <kong0> no
[11:41] <trog_> lol
[11:41] <ivoks> kong0: the thing you started from System -> Administration -> Synaptic package manager
[11:41] <kong0> ive had em up b4 tday but theyre nor running now..
[11:41] <kong0> what if i restart my computer?
[11:41] <ivoks> kong0: :)) no
[11:41] <ivoks> kong0: let's learn new command; killall :)
[11:41] <kong0> really?
[11:41] <microhaxo> how EXACTLY DO I BURN AN ISO
[11:41] <ivoks> kong0: type in sudo killall -9 synaptic
[11:42] <ivoks> microhaxo: right click on iso, burn to CD :)
[11:42] <Seveas> microhaxo, don't shout please
[11:42] <Seveas> and use graveman/gnomebaker/k3b
[11:42] <nalioth> raux: i'm not the one to ask about that kind of stuff, as i don't have any need for it
[11:42] <kong0> ok..nothing seems to have happened..
[11:42] <ivoks> kong0: it did ;)
[11:42] <ivoks> kong0: try now ps ax | grep apt
[11:42] <ivoks> kong0: ther should be only one line, with grep apt
[11:42] <nalioth> microhaxo: do you like your capslock?
[11:42] <microhaxo> that dont work
[11:42] <Seveas> and ejecting is done with rightclicking on the cdrom icon in nautilus and clicking eject
[11:42] <microhaxo> i right click
[11:42] <microhaxo> burn file
[11:42] <microhaxo> not iso
[11:42] <kong0> only grept apt :D
[11:43] <raux> damn :D ... but nalioth  maybe you know somebody, who need this kind of stuff
[11:43] <kong0> happy happy
[11:43] <ivoks> kong0: now run this 'sudo apt-get update'
[11:43] <microhaxo> dammit
[11:43] <microhaxo> im getting pissed off
[11:43] <Jesse1> where can i get the sdl  libraries from?
[11:43] <microhaxo> my cdrom drive is locked
[11:43] <microhaxo> because of this bs k3b
[11:43] <microhaxo> it wont unlock it
[11:43] <microhaxo> wtf
[11:43] <kong0> finished
[11:43] <Seveas> Jesse1, from the ubuntu repositories :)
[11:43] <ivoks> kong0: no errors?
[11:43] <ivoks> kong0: allready?
[11:43] <kong0> no
[11:43] <Seveas> microhaxo, close k3b then...
[11:43] <nalioth> raux: most of the users in here who need it, use irssi and have all that stuff personally aliased
[11:43] <kong0> not the usual stuff bout the in use
[11:43] <ivoks> kong0: what kind of internet connection do you have? :)
[11:44] <kong0> 10/1
[11:44] <Jesse1> sevas, i searched in the the synaptic for sdl and it didnt find anything
[11:44] <microhaxo> it was never open and it locked it
[11:44] <ivoks> ok :)
[11:44] <ivoks> kong0: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[11:44] <ivoks> kong0: sudo apt-get install mplayer-686
[11:44] <Seveas> Jesse1, look for libsdl
[11:44] <microhaxo> dammit
[11:44] <ivoks> or was it -586? :)
[11:44] <Octane> 386
[11:44] <Octane> :)
[11:44] <ivoks> :)
[11:44] <Octane> its 386
[11:44] <ivoks> 386 is without MMX/SSE support
[11:44] <kong0> "Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)"
[11:44] <kong0> i enhet "/cdrom/" och tryck Enter
[11:45] <ivoks> kong0: well, enter your CD
[11:45] <kong0> the ubuntu?
[11:45] <ivoks> kong0: that tells that you didn't erase that file as I told you
[11:45] <kong0> man..thought i did
[11:45] <ivoks> kong0: you left the part with CDROM
[11:45] <microhaxo> how the hell do i unlock this drive?
[11:45] <Octane> can someone please take a look at this -- http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/120 -- its a relatively simple apt-get problem that should be easy to fix but is driving me nuts
[11:46] <kong0> this is actually fun...
[11:46] <ivoks> microhaxo: right click on CD icon, eject
[11:46] <microhaxo> dont work
[11:46] <ivoks> microhaxo: sure it does
[11:46] <microhaxo> no
[11:46] <microhaxo> there is no EJECT option
[11:46] <ivoks> microhaxo: if there is no programs locking it
[11:46] <ivoks> microhaxo: haha
[11:46] <ivoks> that's a lie
[11:46] <kong0> ohh what a mistake
[11:46] <microhaxo> Noo
[11:46] <microhaxo> no lie
[11:46] <microhaxo> im in file manager
[11:47] <kong0> seems to be done
[11:47] <microhaxo> right click
[11:47] <ivoks> kong0: allready?
[11:47] <microhaxo> see no eject
[11:47] <kong0> uhuh...
[11:47] <Octane> ugggggggggggggh
[11:47] <kong0> root@MSHOME:/home/kong0 #
[11:47] <ivoks> kong0: did it install mplayer?
[11:47] <Seveas> microhaxo, click unmount then
[11:47] <Seveas> and eject with the eject button
[11:48] <microhaxo> seveas
[11:48] <kong0> adjusting mplayer -686
[11:48] <nalioth> octane run "apt-get -f install"
[11:48] <ivoks> kong0: great...
[11:48] <kong0> then done i guess
[11:48] <microhaxo> there is not unmount option in file manager by right clicking
[11:48] <microhaxo> ?
[11:48] <Octane> nalioth, notice i tried and look what happened
[11:48] <masahiro> I'm back
[11:48] <Octane> it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop and kaffeine
[11:48] <Seveas> microhaxo, dou you use gnome or KDE?
[11:48] <Octane> see pastebin
[11:48] <ivoks> kong0: now go to applications/sound & video/mplayer
[11:48] <masahiro> And it's still not working :'(
[11:48] <microhaxo> Gnome
[11:48] <nalioth> Octane: you ran 'upgrade', not 'install'
[11:48] <masahiro> It's too late tonight, but I have a thread at ubuntu forums
[11:48] <Octane> nalioth, the same thing happens
[11:49] <Octane> apt-get -f upgrade wants to remove kubuntu-desktop and kaffeine
[11:49] <kong0> lol fonth path error
[11:49] <Seveas> microhaxo, bottom option is Eject...
[11:49] <kong0> i believe i need fonts
[11:49] <ivoks> kong0: that's ok... first start...
[11:49] <microhaxo> of the right click?
[11:49] <ivoks> kong0: forget about that...
[11:49] <masahiro> Serveas: I have a thread about my problem at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=218564#post218564
[11:49] <kong0> ok
[11:49] <ivoks> kong0: now install xine-ui too, it's much better than mplayer
[11:49] <nalioth> Octane: don't worry about kubuntu-desktop
[11:49] <Seveas> microhaxo, yes
[11:49] <ivoks> kong0: sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[11:49] <microhaxo> thats propertys?
[11:49] <Octane> nalioth, what do you mean? i run kubuntu!
[11:50] <nalioth> Octane: do you want to fix your problem? kubuntu-desktop will not remove anything (it is a metapkg)
[11:50] <Octane> nalioth, oh
[11:50] <Octane> so what should i do apt-get -f upgrade let it remove kaffeine and kubuntu-desktop and then apt-get install kaffeine kubuntu-desktop ?
[11:50] <nalioth> Octane: do you not want kaffeine?
[11:51] <microhaxo> seveas bottom option is Properties
[11:51] <Octane> i want to upgrade it
[11:51] <kong0> its started
[11:51] <ivoks> kong0: did installation of mplayer pull other packages? like libasound, libdv, libdvdread, etc?
[11:51] <nalioth> Octane: then do the -f install, let it remvoe both things
[11:51] <nalioth> Octane: then install just kaffeine
[11:51] <kong0> hello?
[11:51] <Seveas> microhaxo, you have to rightclick on the *CD* not on the mountpoint...
[11:51] <nalioth> Octane: then kubuntu-desktop
[11:51] <Seveas> microhaxo, go to places->computer
[11:52] <kong0> its all silent...
[11:52] <microhaxo> yay
[11:52] <ivoks> kong0: what's silent? movie?
[11:52] <microhaxo> tx
[11:52] <ThE__OnE> how can  i make me the root?
[11:52] <kong0> i guess its all done then
[11:52] <ThE__OnE> because when i try to get irssi it says iam not the root
[11:52] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: use 'sudo'
[11:52] <TomT64> you use sudo
[11:53] <ivoks> kong0: now, check on google what CVS is :)
[11:53] <Octane> ah ha! thank you nalioth !!!
[11:53] <ThE__OnE> but why aint i the root?
[11:53] <nalioth> Octane: yer welcome
[11:53] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, you should not manually install irssi
[11:53] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, get it with the package manager
[11:53] <TomT64> ThE__OnE: becauser it's not smart to login to the GUI as root
[11:53] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: nobody (who's smart) who runs ubuntu is root
[11:53] <Octane> nalioth, now i understand what a meta package is :)
[11:53] <Seveas> ThE__OnE: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:53] <kong0> did u really go?
[11:53] <nalioth> Octane: ;)
[11:53] <ivoks> kong0: ?
[11:53] <TomT64> nalioth: we have the same answers heh
[11:54] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, and please do not install stuff thst is in the repositories manually which
[11:54] <kong0> no one else is typing either...suspicious...
[11:54] <nalioth> TomT64: its all in my fingers
[11:54] <ivoks> < kong0> no one else is typing either...suspicious...
[11:54] <ivoks> lol
[11:54] <kong0> well im off cya might go in later
[11:54] <nalioth> whatever that was a bout"
[11:55] <nalioth> i say suspiciously
[11:55] <Seveas> I want to know whether my restore-my-mbr-script works :)
[11:55] <nalioth> Seveas: kewl! can we get a play-by-play?
[11:55] <nadjyla> Hello :)
[11:55] <microhaxo> WHERE's my DrInk..
[11:56] <Seveas> nalioth, if it works, i'll publish it
[11:57] <Seveas> it'll be the third in my series of useful-scripts-for-#ubuntu :)
[11:57] <nalioth> Seveas: we want to hear you scream when it doesnt.. .. ..:P
[11:57] <Seveas> nalioth, lol :)
[11:57] <Seveas> I can always fix it manually ;)
[11:57] <nalioth> darn
[11:57] <wdh> nalioth, mbr isnt something a live-cd cant fix :)
[11:57] <Seveas> wdh, that's the purpose
[11:57] <Seveas> automating what you should do with a livecd
[11:57] <Seveas> so tomorrow i will boot this machine in windows
[11:57] <Seveas> run fdisk /mbr
[11:58] <Seveas> boot from a livecd
[11:58] <Seveas> and if all goes well, be back in ubuntu a few minutes later :)
[11:58] <ThE__OnE> so i should'nt use root? how do i disable it?
[11:58] <wdh> Seveas, hmmmz.. would love to see that working :) give me a msg when it does :)
[11:58] <wdh> ThE__OnE, by default, you are not root
[11:58] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, root account is by default disabled :)
[11:58] <microhaxo> AHAH
[11:58] <bl4cktone> ubuntu is working so much better for me than fedora did
[11:58] <Seveas> ThE__OnE: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:58] <Seveas> read that
[11:58] <microhaxo> this motherfkr is waht is FUBARING me up..
[11:58] <microhaxo> ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 12618, errno = 0
[11:58] <microhaxo> that is why my cdrw locks!
[11:58] <ThE__OnE> Seveas, iam there
[11:59] <bl4cktone> How is everyone?
[11:59] <ThE__OnE> Seveas, if tis disables, then why is it asking me for it?
[11:59] <ThE__OnE> its disabled*
[11:59] <LokeDK> I was just wondering.. I've installed php4 from synaptic.. but where's the php from commandline?
[12:00] <ivoks> lol