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jbaileycrimsun: Around?02:59
jamessanjbailey: the last upload didn't take since there wasn't an orig.tar.gz03:14
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jamessanjbailey: the last fish upload didn't take since there wasn't an orig.tar.gz03:33
jbaileyEh?  Weird.03:33
jbaileyI'll grab it a touch later, I'm hacking on something else atm.03:34
jamessanok03:34
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lamontbad network-manager (non-PIC in shared lib)05:57
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HostingGeekOh crap12:00
HostingGeekI just upgraded x.org12:00
HostingGeekIs the topic referring to X as x.org12:00
siretartHostingGeek: yes, it is12:12
siretartmoin12:13
littlepaulsiretart, moin12:13
siretarthuhu littlepaul12:15
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HWolfGuys, I have a weird problem with vlc01:53
lsuactiafnerif it itches go see a doctor..01:53
HWolfIt installs and works just fine, but I can't set it as the default for opening files in nautilus, if I select it in "add application" I get an error "could not add ..."01:54
HostingGeeksiretart: what its broken?01:56
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siretartHostingGeek: I don't use breezy's X.org yet.02:22
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\shmorning04:27
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siretarthi \sh04:31
\shhey siretart04:34
\shoh man...it's too hot for me04:36
siretartway too hot04:44
siretart\sh: if you have a minute, could you please have a look at https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11940 and tell me your opinion?04:45
\shyeah04:46
\shput long instead of int for this cast04:46
siretart\sh: well, this would be quite intrusive, because they are using that callback as template, and it seems to be instantiated at several places.. hmm04:47
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\shwell on i386 int and long have the same size04:47
\shproblem is on 64bit04:47
\shint == int and long larger then int04:47
\shand pointers need long on 64bit04:47
\shand if you fix this, and running into other build errors on amd64 patch it ;)04:48
siretartsiretart@hades:~/src/ubuntu/sfs/sfs-0.8-0+pre20041016.104:48
siretart>> grep -r 'callback<void, int>' *  G int | wc -l04:48
siretart7204:48
siretartand I'm not sure if that catches all error04:48
tsengfun04:48
Lathiatwhats sfs?04:48
\shsiretart: but this is easy to solve04:49
siretartLathiat: self certifing filesystem, a package affected by CxxTransition04:49
Lathiatah ok04:49
siretart\sh: you mean, with perl regex magic?04:49
\shsiretart: i think emacs or vi is much better :) to proofe it :)04:50
\shhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/h/hdf5/1.6.4-2ubuntu1/ this is more interessting04:50
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\shand I'll have a shower now04:53
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kokehi al!!05:42
tsenghi05:42
kokewow, June 27th is the day of my last exam :)05:42
tsengrock on05:42
tsengis there a package for that little evolution new mail applet?05:44
ogratseng, is there already a release ?05:49
tsengshrug05:49
ograi know its in cvs05:49
tsengi havent heard anything about it forever05:49
ograi'm still pondering if i should port evonotify to dbus or rather package the new applet.... but the status seems rather unclear to me05:50
ograbut i'd definately like to have something like that in breezy05:51
tsengi wonder if it knows if i have new mails since last time05:51
tsengor just unread mails05:51
tsengthe second is useless, i always have unread mail05:51
tsengmaybe unread in my inbox only would be ok05:52
ograit sends a dbus message if new mail arrives.... evo needs to run for that05:53
tsengah thats perfect05:53
ograso it notifs only on new mail... as evonotify does...05:53
tsengim wanting to run evo all the time but not have to look at it every couple minutes05:53
ograyeps05:53
tsenggreat :)05:54
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koketseng: what artwork do you want for mono live??06:08
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tsengkoke: oh06:29
tsengkoke: hang on jhill posted more specifically06:29
tsengkoke: http://www.beyondfocus.com/WeblogX/PermaLink.aspx/6f5e75c0-24f8-433d-86df-cea4b640543506:30
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siretart\sh: sfs now builds on amd64 with g++-4.0 in breezy chroot.06:45
siretart\sh: you where right, fix was trivial06:46
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siretart\sh: btw hdf5 got built on ppc a few hours ago06:56
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ogratseng, thoughts about galago ?07:12
tsengogra: about packaging?07:13
ograyes, for breezy07:13
ogradunno how stable it is yet though07:13
tsengi think the ideas are really cool, im not sure the implementation at this point07:13
tsengi guess its just a framework and no one is using it yet..07:14
ograok, lets leave it for breezy+107:14
tsengthere isnt that much cool user exposed stuff yet07:14
tsengyes, lets07:14
ograhaha.... shock and awe to the user.... http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=140598&ssid=1385507:15
tsengor throw it in universe07:15
tsengquietly07:15
tsengoh man07:15
ogranow _thats_ UI beauty, isnt it ? (how do i make my gnome apps look like KDE)07:15
tsengthat looks like something straight out of KDE07:15
tsenghahahahahah07:15
ogralol07:15
tsenggreat minds think alike.07:15
ograyay07:15
tsengbuttons-as-tabs07:16
tsengthats great, we should use it all the time.07:16
ograheh07:16
tsengi am not a fan of xcompmgr at this point07:17
tsengthe effects are too heavy07:17
ograme neither....07:17
tsengand are probably pretty bad for usability07:18
ograbut it works quite well if i want it, my amd64 an the nivida card only get about 60% performance drawbacks....so 40% are still left07:18
tsengit works crappily on ati07:19
ograwhich is still faster then my other pII 400 laptop with 128MB07:19
ograerr pIII07:19
ograif you can make real use of the features they will be cool, but that will requite lots of usability studies i guess07:20
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siretartogra: do you want to have a look at this patch (sfs, transition was... nasty), or may I proceed with uploading? https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194007:49
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ograsiretart, looks ok.... go ahaead07:53
siretartjuck :)07:53
ivoksxcomposite is quite ok on nvidia07:58
siretartwhat do I need to enable composite?08:02
siretart(I know, this is not a user help channel ;)08:03
ivoksxcompmgr08:03
siretartno, in the xorg.conf08:03
ivoksSection "Extensions" \\  Option "Composite" "Enable" \\ EndSection08:03
siretartok. thanks08:03
siretarterr. huh? I just try it out on an nvidia 6600gt, and I don't think its running acceptable :/08:08
ivokshehe disable glx08:08
ivoksno 3D with xcomposition :)08:08
siretartwhat? I may not use 3d?08:09
ivoksfor now... if you use nvidia drivers08:09
ivoksnvidia said they will fix that08:09
ivokssaid08:09
siretartic08:09
ivokshm... what's up with F1?!08:11
siretartstrange, huh?08:11
ivoksonly 6 cars08:11
siretartno cars with michelin tyres08:12
ivoksyeah08:12
Seveasmichelin has problems08:12
ivoksyou know what happend?08:12
ivoksthey have bad tiers, i know that... but why didn'y they start?08:12
Seveasit is dangerous to start on michelin tyres08:12
ivoks:)08:13
ivoksleason 1.08:13
ivokshow to spend money and don't do anything :)08:13
Seveashahaha08:13
HiddenWolfMy god, what happened?08:13
ivoksimagine costs of bringing those cars there with all that equipment, and then miss the race :)08:14
ivoksand what about all those people?08:14
HiddenWolfWhat happened?08:14
ivokshoooooh... that's USA... you can't imagine all the trials after this :)08:14
ivoksHiddenWolf: i don't know, i did't watch it from the begining...08:15
HiddenWolfDid only 6 cars start?...08:15
ivoksyes08:15
HiddenWolfWhat a debacle for the sport.08:15
Seveasquite...08:17
ivoksbut... jerks throwing botles on road?08:18
HiddenWolfYeah, they paid $250 the man to be there08:19
HiddenWolfand they don't get a race.08:20
ivoksthat doesn't give them right to kill anyone08:20
ivoksdo you know what a simple beer can can do on 300km/h?08:20
HiddenWolfi know08:20
ivokswell, those drivers driving aren't guilty ones08:21
ivoksmichelin is guilty08:21
HiddenWolfTrue.08:22
ivoksthey prepared tiers that are bad for this track08:22
HiddenWolfThis might well kill F1 in the US08:23
ivoksyeah :(08:23
ivoksheh... when you think... those teams not running... so stoopid08:24
ivoksthey didn't want to race08:24
HiddenWolfThink about all the PR managers grabbing for prozac.08:25
ivoksheh08:25
ivokswe will see lot's of sueing now...08:25
ivoksfrom sponsors of williams, mclaren, toyota, renault...08:25
HiddenWolffrom the indianapolis motor speedway and the drivers themselves.08:26
HiddenWolfFrom the FIA and the F1 Holding Company08:26
ivoksyeah08:26
ivoksand people that were there08:27
ivokshttp://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Releases/FIA_Sport/2005/June/190605-02.html08:31
ivoksyou have told your teams the left rear is safe for a maximum of ten laps at full speed08:34
ivokslol, fools :)08:34
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Ti_Uhlhello08:51
Ti_Uhli've made a little tool to change the user password and geckos information but i haven't got a clue about how to package it and send it in for submission08:52
ivokshehe08:54
ivokshttp://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/08:54
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