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ivokskong0: problems? :)12:00
kong0Ivoke? are you here?12:00
kong0ahh12:00
ivoksivoke :)12:00
kong0well im trying to open an avi file with the newly installed mplayer and it kind of locks...12:00
ivokskong0: ok12:01
kong0i cant even open mp3 files...12:01
SeveasThE__OnE, sudo / all the menu entries want *your* password12:01
ivokskong0: start mplayer without any files, just run it12:01
SeveasLokeDK, you have to install php4-cli for command-line php12:02
ThE__OnEahh ok, thx guys you been of great help12:02
ThE__OnEgood community12:02
ivokskong0: did you?12:02
bl4cktonehey guys I just installed ubuntu everything is great except bluetooth12:02
LokeDKSeveas, Oh thx12:02
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glynehello all12:03
bl4cktoneI've got a bluetooth Intellimouse,  perhaps one of you can point me in the right direction?12:03
glynewhen will be solved the xkb problem on breezy please12:04
ivoksglyne: don't use breezy, doh...12:04
ivoksshould there be big neon sign telling "breezy is broken, under heavy development, don't use it, it will not work!"?12:05
Seveasglyne, Breezy is not supported in here12:05
Seveasand we cannot tell when things will be solved12:05
naliothivoks: you will get 'social diseases' and become malodorous! if used12:05
naliothivoks: you forgot that part12:06
ivoks:)12:06
ivoksglyne: best thing for you is to get back to hoary12:06
Seveasbl4cktone, I think searching google/the forums will help you better bl4cktone12:06
bl4cktonethanks seveas12:06
Seveashmm12:07
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Seveas*slurp* aaaah thanks!12:09
XandriXnp12:09
sunnanhi, does anyone know where I can find an up-to-date guide on how to use XFree86 with an external screen on an iBook running hoary? mirror or double-head, either is fine (guess double-head would be better)12:09
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XandriXsunnan, hehe i ahve a double head xorg config for nvidia drivers ud haveto modd it a bit12:09
sunnanxandrix: I'd be interested in looking at it, though I've got a radeon.12:10
Seveassunnan, XFree86 on hoary is not supported12:10
XandriXsunnan, u jsut haveto change a couple o options12:10
XandriXSeveas, he ment xorg lol12:10
sunnanseveas: oh, I didn't know that.12:10
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Seveassunnan, Hoary uses X.org12:11
sunnanI used xorg but I switched back to (the old, pre-licence change version) of xfree86 because I had so many weird color issues with xorg12:11
ironmcWhat command do I use to install a .deb file i.e. alsaplayer.deb12:11
XandriXsunnan, ehh thats like not normal12:11
Seveasironmc, dpkg -i <debfile>12:11
sunnanironmc: dpkg -i alsaplayer.deb12:11
ironmcthx12:11
sunnanI used to run warty before hoary and xorg came along12:12
Seveasironmc, alsaplayer is available from the repositories too...12:12
Seveasuse that one instead of a manually downloaded one12:12
XandriXsunnan, i cant ehlp you tha tmuch cuz my config is for xorg ...12:12
SeveasXandriX, it seems like your spacebar is doing weird things ;)12:12
XandriXSeveas, no thats jsut my hangover12:13
XandriX*just argg12:13
Seveasah ok12:13
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XandriXlol12:14
Seveasbrb12:14
lsuactiafneranyone know if hardware temperature sensors work yet on asus A8N deluxe motherboards?12:17
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XandriXlsuactiafner, go cehckout supported in lmsensors12:18
lsuactiafnerheh effort12:19
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lsuactiafnerpc cant keep up anymore12:20
lsuactiafnerload average: 2.68, 1.83, 1.8012:20
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XandriXwth12:20
XandriXhow did tha thappen12:20
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TokenBadis there some delay on between files12:20
TokenBadguy said he download files12:20
TokenBadbut there was a long delay between files12:21
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ThE__OnEirssi-text is already the newest version.12:23
ThE__OnE0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.12:23
ThE__OnEwhat should i pick?12:23
lsuactiafnerXandriX : try nice -n -15 make -j 212:23
XandriX??12:23
lsuactiafnermaking a kernel.12:23
XandriXa ok12:24
SeveasThE__OnE, pick for what?12:24
ThE__OnEinstalling irssi12:24
SeveasThE__OnE, that output says that irssi is already installed :)12:24
ThE__OnEit is?12:25
ThE__OnEits not on my inter tab12:25
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ThE__OnEinternet12:25
SeveasThE__OnE, it's a console application12:25
Seveasso it's not in the menu12:25
SeveasThE__OnE, just open a terminal and type irssi12:25
ThE__OnEoh12:25
lsuactiafnerload average: 8.57, 6.66, 4.0212:25
lsuactiafnerlol12:25
blinkanyone knows how to change deafult language in aterm in ubuntu?12:25
lsuactiafnerload average: 8.57, 6.66, 4.0212:25
Seveaslsuactiafner, omfg what are you doing??12:26
virtualdctrl-alt-fx to get to console from x stopped working, what should i check? B] 12:26
lsuactiafnerSeveas : as i said nice -n 15 make -j 2 but nice -n -20 mencoder also12:26
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Seveasah :)12:26
squinnUbuntu.com question.12:26
lsuactiafnerbut its multitasking well..12:26
Seveasand what are you making?12:26
squinnHow do I register for an account on the wiki?12:26
lsuactiafnercan still irc ect12:27
lsuactiafnermaking a kernel12:27
blinkis anyone using aterm and can help me?12:27
lsuactiafner2.6.12 is out12:27
Seveassquinn, register on te main ubuntu site12:27
Seveasand use the login you get there to login on the wiki12:27
lsuactiafnergot it earlier just as it was released12:27
squinnAh, right.12:27
squinnThanks.12:27
Seveaslsuactiafner, it is?12:27
Seveascool12:27
squinnQuestion, Seveas.12:27
squinnCan I change my username after registration?12:27
Seveassquinn, no12:28
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lsuactiafneri got this 6th sense to check kernel.org just as a new release is made12:28
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Seveaslsuactiafner, you can also use the rss feed of kernel.org ;)12:28
lsuactiafnerload average: 10.75, 8.33, 5.1412:29
lsuactiafneram on a dailup12:29
lsuactiafnerheh making modules now.. should be done soon12:29
lsuactiafnernext compile will be quick, ccache. got to add something else12:29
squinnAh, okay.12:30
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dennis_can someone tell me how to check system log on Ubuntu?12:30
lsuactiafner12.11, 9.63, 5.9612:30
lsuactiafnerdennis_ : /var/log/syslog and messages12:31
Frederickim on a bad situation here ubuntu doesnt allow me to remove grub, I want get rid of it and use only windows but it doest loads without ubuntu now12:31
munkidennis_ , it's in /var/log/syslog12:31
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lsuactiafnerFrederick : just make windows install its own boot loader, tho not sure how windows works12:32
squinnSeveas, never mind that, I even used my middle initial, lol12:32
r0dFrederick,  why would you want windows to control booting?12:32
dennis_thanks12:32
lsuactiafnerubuntu will remove grub ect.. but windows should then install its own bootloader12:32
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lsuactiafneryay compile done12:33
lsuactiafneri think my room got 1C warmer under that load12:33
SeveasFrederick, if you boot to windows you can run fdisk /mbr to restore the windows boot manager12:33
thiago_hello!!!!!!!!!!12:33
r0dSeveas,  recovery console is faster12:33
Seveasgoodbye12:33
thiago_lll12:34
FrederickSeveas ive done it and nothing chasnged I keep having grub or a loop where pc reports it couldnt boot12:34
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Seveashmm12:34
Frederickim booted on windows12:34
Seveasohno, it's Burgundavia12:34
Seveasduck12:34
Frederickbut I have grub stuck there12:34
r0dFrederick,  recovery console man. im telling your. i do it all the time12:34
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r0d*you12:34
BurgundaviaSeveas, right12:35
BurgundaviaSeveas, network manager has a fun bug on my system. It makes it think my own system is a name server12:35
r0dtheirs 'fixmbr' and 'fixboot'12:35
Frederickr0d boot windows with f8 and?12:35
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lsuactiafnerccache rocks12:35
r0dFrederick,  you can w/ the cd12:35
Frederickr0d I boot the cd and?12:35
r0dFrederick, stick it in and when you get prompt to install or use recovery console. u choose it12:35
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Frederickrecovery console?12:36
r0dyea you type 'r'12:36
FrederickIve ran it already12:36
r0dyes12:36
Frederickand grub still there12:36
r0d'fixmbr' and 'fixboot'?12:36
FrederickDo I need to run it?12:36
r0dit shouldnt after that.12:36
Frederickdoes win2k offer such features?12:36
r0dthose programs, ys12:36
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r0dyes12:37
Frederickoki I boot win2k cd and?12:37
r0dwhen prompt, hit r for recovery console12:37
Frederickthan?12:37
Frederick*then12:37
r0dits easy after taht. just follow along12:38
r0du type your password12:38
Frederickhum... lemme try brb12:38
r0dthen you get prompt w/ C:12:38
ThE__OnElol, why cant i open my cd drives? i just opened them like 15 min ago?12:38
lsuactiafnerThE__OnE : becuase they are mounted12:38
lsuactiafnertype df12:38
FrederickThE__OnE sudo umount /mnt/cdrom12:38
lsuactiafnerand umount /mnt/cdrom12:38
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Frederickr0d brb12:39
microhaxoOMG12:39
microhaxothis is pure bullshit, get this..:12:39
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lsuactiafnerok time to detach all over12:39
SeveasFrederick, cdrim is mounted wit the user option, you don't need sudo to unmount it12:39
Seveasand eject from the commandline works as well :)12:39
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ThE__OnEis there any way to disable from mounting?12:39
kbrooks_anyone use vnc?12:39
SeveasThE__OnE, of course12:40
ThE__OnEhow please12:40
SeveasThE__OnE, system->prefs->removable media12:40
kbrooks_anyone use vnc?12:40
r0dSeveas,  you know using 'user' in /etc/fstab never works for me w/ ntfs partitions12:40
Seveasbut a cdrom is useless when not mounted :)12:40
Seveasr0d, what do you mean with 'never works'?12:40
microhaxowhen i attempt to boot into windows it says i need to activate right away, takes 30 min to load activation screen, then the dumb mofo wont activate over internet, ontop of that it wont GENERATE AN INSTALLATION ID, so i get error, Conflict preventing windows activation, and i got microsoft reps saying it will cost 280.00 usd for help because its after hours..12:40
microhaxoPURE BULLSHIT12:40
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ThE__OnEwhy is mounting used?12:40
Seveasmicrohaxo, language...12:40
SeveasThE__OnE, to access the files on it :)12:41
microhaxoI am severely pizzored12:41
r0dSeveas,  I mean it doesnt work as being able to mount w/ regular user12:41
kbrooks_microhaxo, so use linux12:41
Seveasr0d, that'll work only if combined with noauto12:41
microhaxo...12:41
microhaxosomeone hacked me12:41
microhaxowhat are the chances of not being able to activate windows12:41
microhaxoand not being able to login12:41
microhaxo?12:41
r0dSeveas,  ah Tanks!12:41
ThE__OnEhehed, it has to be mounted?12:41
ThE__OnEhmm ok12:41
microhaxobah12:41
SeveasThE__OnE, yes :)12:41
microhaxono one hacked me12:41
microhaxoim on a router12:41
Seveasmounting integrates it in the filesystem12:41
microhaxoIt was linux12:42
microhaxoim telling you12:42
Seveasmicrohaxo, please don't generate noise...12:42
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kbrooks_microhaxo, i can guide you to linux12:42
kbrooks_want me to?12:42
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microhaxolinux sucks without games :|12:43
microhaxosnif snif12:43
Seveasthere's supertux ;)12:43
XandriXmicrohaxo, i play amny games in linux12:43
linux_fanis there a voice recognition program for Linux??12:43
kbrooks_microhaxo, there are games in linux12:43
XandriXthere also a magical thing called cedega cvs12:43
microhaxoi cant12:43
kbrooks_why12:43
r0dlsuactiafner, do you know whats new in the 2.6.12 kernel? anything worth to mention?12:43
microhaxoamericas army gives error12:43
microhaxohrm12:43
microhaxoeverything i do in linux is wrong12:43
kbrooks_microhaxo, other games12:43
microhaxoit hates me12:43
microhaxoEnemy territory12:43
kbrooks_microhaxo, no. listen.12:43
microhaxodont work12:43
kbrooks_i can help you.12:43
XandriXmicrohaxo, it takes time to learn12:44
kbrooks_all you have to do is pm me :P12:44
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linux_fanis there a voice recognition program for Linux?12:44
oneironis it me guys, or are several mail lists down?12:44
Seveasthe mailing list server is down12:44
lpkWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running12:44
lpkkernel?12:44
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linux_fanis there a voice recognition program for Linux?12:44
oneironthanks Seveas12:45
lpkI'm installing VMWare, do i have those headers in default ubuntu install?12:45
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DanielCmicrohaxo: If it makes you feel better, Windows hates me. :)  This is what happens when an advanced life form tries to explain something to a stupid box of silicon. :)12:45
hondjelinux_fan: I remember using 'via voice' 5 years ago or so, google for it12:45
Seveaslpk, sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)12:45
linux_fanthank u honfje12:45
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lsuactiafnerr0d : well, i saw pci express again12:45
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lsuactiafnerso thats good for me12:45
lsuactiafnerwell worth it12:45
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X7Cif I have a wireless interface on my computer... do i have to put it on /etc/network/interfaces?12:46
lsuactiafnerbut, nothing else but havent checked the changelog12:46
lsuactiafnertho the changelog is incomplete12:46
lpkSeveas: Great, thanks!12:46
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lsuactiafnergot to reboot now12:46
truz24Dual core pentium, or dual xeons ?12:46
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linux_fanis there a voice recognition program for Linux?12:46
r0dkool12:46
lsuactiafnerbrb, detach...12:46
X7Cahm..12:46
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fabio_hello all12:47
siimohi anyone still running warty here12:47
r0dlinux_fan,  like for authentication?12:47
X7Cif I have a wireless interface on my computer... do i have to put it on /etc/network/interfaces?12:47
SeveasX7C, of course..12:48
linux_fanno, so you can talk and it will type12:48
r0dlinux_fan,  yea bob2 told me, but i forget12:48
X7Cand what should i type as it is already configured.....12:48
atoollinux_fan,  it looks like there's CMU sphinx and viavoice...both of which look like they've been abandoned.12:48
Seveasifup NAME_OF_THE_INTERFACE12:48
r0dlinux_fan,  I know windoze's has one, but it'll cost ya12:48
r0dtry it in wine....12:49
ThE__OnEhey whats a good guide to linux in general with ubuntu?12:49
X7Cahm.. thanks12:49
lsuactiafnerworked nicely12:49
ninwaSomeone please refresh my memory, how does one modify which services will load with his system? I remember in RH there was something of a service manager, what's the solution in Ubuntu?12:49
lsuactiafnerhmm not to check if sensors work12:49
ThE__OnEi been to http://ubuntuguide.org/, but they never told me i can right click the cd and eject =)12:49
r0dlsuactiafner,  guess I wont need to upgrade yet. no pci express:(12:50
Seveasubuntuguide is bad12:50
atoolThE__OnE, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/link/helplinkfolder_view12:50
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r0dSeveas,  that unoffical guide was kinda good. for what i read at least12:50
Seveasr0d, i don't call misinformation, suboptimal solutions and lack of explanation good...12:51
xteraa3Can someone please tell me the commands to install clearlooks 0.6 thanK!12:51
xteraa3I use hoary12:51
r0dSeveas,  I'll i used it for was for TOR and that worked. cant say anything about the rest...12:51
r0d*-i'll12:52
fabio_xteraa3, what is it? A theme?12:52
Seveasxteraa3, you will have to download it from the clearlooks website and compile/install it manually12:52
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High|anderHow do i install gvim?? help please?12:52
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SeveasHigh|ander, aptitude install vim-gnome12:53
skallerdoes anyone know the starting password of root?12:53
xteraa3Seveas, I have it downloaded but I have never compiled anything...I rely on apt-get...I want to learn though...but I dont what commands to use to install it cleanly12:53
SeveasHigh|ander, apt-get install vim-gnome12:54
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High|ander apt-get install vim-gnome12:54
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atoolxteraa3, it's just a theme, you should be able to d/l the file and install it using the thememanager12:54
High|anderCouldn't find any package whose name or description matched "vim-gnome"12:54
Seveasxteraa3, can't help you there, read the README and INSTALL files and hope that tings don't get too fucked up that you cannot upgrade it via apt anymore12:54
lsuactiafnerok, question, i want to save an image that displays in firefox.. but it doesnt save the image.. no matter what.. so whats up?12:54
xteraa3atool, I read its a theme engine and requires installation12:55
skallerdoes anyone know the starting password of root?12:55
Seveasskaller: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo12:55
Seveasthere is no root password12:55
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skallerso how do i su to root?12:55
Seveasskaller: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo12:56
r0dlsuactiafner,  like right clicking on it doesnt work?12:56
xteraa3I have searched the ubuntu forums for clear instructions on installing clearlooks 0.6 but found none12:56
Seveasxteraa3, why do you specifically want that version?12:56
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High|anderSeveas: cant find the package12:56
Seveasvim-gnome is definitely there12:57
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Seveasor have you not enabled installing software via the network yet?12:57
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High|anderSeveas: how do i do that?12:57
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SeveasHigh|ander, can you paste the file /etc/apt/sources.list on paste.ubuntulinux.nl please12:58
queuetueWhat do you guys use for a caching nameserver?  pdns appears to be dying irregularly.  (I think the windows clients kill it.)12:58
lsuactiafnercant get sensors working12:58
Seveasbind9 of course :)12:58
lsuactiafnerran sensors-detect12:58
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stjepanhi12:58
skallerthx .. now I have root :)12:58
lsuactiafnerkernel has all the modules.. but it keeps saying cant find sensors.. ideas?12:58
queuetuebind seems a bit excessive for a caching-only nameerver. :)12:58
stjepanwhere is "local .xinitrc file"?12:58
xteraa3I wonder if his would work in Ubuntu? "install it with "./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-animation" followed by "make install" as root."12:59
Seveasxteraa3, at least do --prefix=/usr/local12:59
High|anderSeveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/12112:59
siimonot any people using warty?12:59
lsuactiafnerstjepan : create it in your /home/user_account01:00
stjepanlook01:00
lsuactiafnerqueuetue : dnsmasq01:00
xteraa3Seveas, maybe thats my problem I did'nt use ../local as you say01:00
DanielCsiimo: I have a warty system next door, but I don't know Ubuntu well...01:00
stjepanin EDE (equinox desktop environment) documentation01:00
stjepanit says that I need to add line "startede" to local .xinitrc file01:00
stjepanwhat should I do?01:01
fabio_guys any1 programming in gtk+ here?01:01
kbrooks_http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html01:01
SeveasHigh|ander, edit that file as root (sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list) and replace the existing content with what's listed on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/12201:01
kbrooks_fabio_, does pygtk count?01:01
truz24I have two nics in my ubuntu box.  When i plug each of them into separate networks, i get no net activity.  If I shut one of them down, i get net activity through the other card and vice versa... anyway to tell ubuntu which nic to use for internet and dns, and just use the other for lan access ?01:01
stjepanhelp pls01:01
fabio_kbrooks_, eheh, well could, I just wanted to know of any book of gtk+ with C ;)01:02
atoolstjepan, there is usually an .xinitrc file in your home dir01:02
lsuactiafnertruz24 : bridge-utils and brctl and bridge em01:02
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atoolstjepan, if not, do a "locate xinitrc"01:02
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atoolstjepan, copy and rename it .xinitrc in your home dir01:02
stjepanatool: In terminal?01:02
atoolstjepan, make any edit to it01:02
atoolstjepan, yes in the terminal :)01:03
ThE__OnEfor firefox, i was jsut wondering, is it possible to load the last used folder when pressing ctrl + d without having to click the arrow down?01:03
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truz24thanks lsuactiafner01:03
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stjepanlocate xinitrc - that I need to do in terminal?01:03
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yonilis it just me or is nautilus FULL of bugs ?01:04
yonilis there a way to work with something else ? (under gnome)01:04
r0dstjepan, if you dont want to you can open your home directory and go to 'View' and check 'show hidden files' you'll see it01:04
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regeyayonil:  I think it's just you.01:04
microhaxoGuysd01:04
microhaxowhy the hell cant i compile Directx9wine01:05
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microhaxosame error every time01:05
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JDahlyonil, what's the problem?01:05
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Seveasyonil, bugs like..?01:05
ThE__OnEanyone?01:05
microhaxoC compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables01:05
fabio_kbrooks_, yes python will do ;) have u got some example of some prog u built with Pygtk?01:05
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sixhatI I have a question about the live CD of ubuntu... is it possible to start an ADSL connection with a USB THompson ADSL modem from the live CD?01:05
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Seveasmicrohaxo, aptitude install build-essential01:05
JDahlmicrohaxo, install build-essentials01:05
microhaxoits already up to date01:05
microhaxowhat it says01:05
yonilregeya, really? maybe i did something wrong... it keeps getting stuck, sometimes it crashes (when i try to entered a directory i dont have read presmissions to), and other things01:05
atoolSeveas, how's aptitude different than apt-get?01:05
Seveasmicrohaxo, then your ./configure script is fubar01:05
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Seveasatool, it's better imho :)01:06
microhaxohow do i get a new one?01:06
microhaxoseveas?01:06
Seveasatool, read the manpages if you want to know why :)01:06
yonilSeveas, JDahl: i wrote above ^01:06
fabio_any1 programming in mono here?01:06
atoolSeveas, i would... just not on ubuntu right now :) thanks tho...01:06
Seveasmicrohaxo, no idea and i'm going now, sorry01:06
microhaxoc u l8r01:06
JDahlyonil, I am not a heavy nautilus user, but it normally works fine for me01:07
lpkI know i'm asking many questions. But when i rise my mouse sensitivity, it starts to move "grainy", like on a grid of 5 pixels01:07
lpkI don't like it when my cursor moves 3 pixels in a time. How could i somehow imporve this, hmm, "resolution"?01:07
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lpkrise->raise :P01:08
High|anderSeveas: thanks, it works now01:08
mikascan anyone of you recommend a cd/dvd-burner for gnome?.. i'd like something a bit more verbose than nautilus :).. even time remaining would be nice01:08
lpkmikas: k3b01:09
Seveasmikas, gnomebaker/graveman01:09
Seveask3b is for kde :)01:09
Seveas(and I really need to go...01:09
lpkYeah but.. Shouldn't it run anyway? ;)01:09
Seveas)01:09
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mikasSeveas, i tried gnomebaker.. it wouldn't write a dvdr-image to dvd..01:10
naliothmikas: gnomebaker and graveman are more gnome-centric, but k3b works best01:10
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mikashave to ry graveman later01:10
siimoi was wondering how i can update gaim in warty? will it be possible to add hoary source and apt-get source gaim  and then build it01:10
gm78siimo : why not compile the latest gaim from gaim.sourceforge.net?01:10
gm78mikas : did u try k3b?01:11
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gm78siimo : any reason u need to upgrade your gaim?01:11
ottoaimsiimo:  why not upgrade your dist to hoary the whorehog?01:11
ottoaimthen you can just use the package?01:11
gm78ottoaim : some people like using distros till they are EOL01:12
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ottoaimgm78: i suppose he can if he wants to be difficult..01:12
siimoottoaim, because  cant connect to yahoo01:12
siimoand i have everything setup correctly and dont feel like doing a new os install01:13
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siimocurrently i have exams so i wont risk it01:13
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gm78siimo : are you going to try the latest gaim from sourceforge?01:13
siimoyeah but id rather make a deb01:13
lsuactiafnerlastest gaim compiled nicely01:13
gm78siimo : so, nothing is stopping u from doing that?01:14
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lsuactiafnerwas surprised01:14
gm78siimo : ./configure   make   sudo checkinstall01:14
siimoyeah i was just saying can i get it off hoary cause then it will be easy with apt build01:14
lsuactiafnerif you cant connect to whatever rm -r .gaim in your user directory and get a clean .conf01:14
siimook01:14
microhaxoguys, i dont know if anyone can help me but i get this error when trying to compile CEDEGA CVS, i get to step 5 MAKE.. http://pastebin.com/30158001:14
gm78siimo : using checkinstall to make a deb is a lot easier than mixing repositories01:15
siimoi thought check install fails a lot01:15
siimo?01:15
XandriXehh i orderd my discs in april adn still no sending notification01:15
XandriXuet my friend orderd htem 2 weeks ago he lvies 3 streets form me and he got them01:15
XandriX...01:15
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gm78XandriX : you could borrow his CDs for the time being01:16
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skel_hello01:17
XandriXgm78, the thign is he doesent want to lend them hes a total jackarse01:17
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oneironwhat library am I missing if I don't have libgtkembedmoz.so on my system?01:18
mjroneiron, it's in mozilla-browser (and mozilla-firefox)01:18
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ninwaXandriX, Larger than small yet smaller than huge.01:19
XandriXin mb or gig01:19
ninwamb01:19
XandriXhow much01:19
ninwaIt's one CD :)01:19
ninwaI'm not sure01:19
atool700Mb01:19
oneironthank you, I tried doing: yelp filename.xml and got an error message saying that file couldn't be found01:20
XandriXatool, a normal install is that ?01:20
atoolyes01:20
XandriXok01:20
XandriXty atool01:20
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oneironmjr, are you picking up what I'm putting down01:21
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ninwahaha01:21
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skallersry dumb question: trying to run debootstrap, get a message 'no script'01:21
atoolthe default install doesn't come with a ton of packages, hence the multiverse, backports, etc.01:21
skalleri need a script /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/breezy .. where do i get it?01:22
mindphasrAny linux utilities out there that can attempt to recover what it can from a old cd-r..one that gets crc errors..01:22
kbrooks_skaller, /topic01:22
ThE__OnEwhat is Glade Interface Designer for?01:23
lpkFor designing java interfaces iirc01:23
Burgundaviano01:23
ThE__OnEjust for designing right01:23
Burgundaviafor desiging gtk and gnome interfaces01:23
skallerI need to install breezy01:23
ThE__OnEok01:23
skalleri have a base hoary running01:24
Burgundaviaskaller, do you understand what you are doing?01:24
Burgundaviabreezy is quite broken right now01:24
thenukeskaller: are you sure you need breezy :) it will break immediately or a bit later.01:24
naliothskaller: do you need a hole in the head with that?01:24
skallerlol01:24
skalleri am a developer01:25
microhaxolol01:25
naliothskaller: so put it on a spare machine, and have fun01:25
thenukelolololol01:25
microhaxoskaller you know anything about compiling?01:25
skallerlol01:25
thenukeyou are not. "< skaller> does anyone know the starting password of root?"01:25
skallerI am the author of an advanced compiler01:25
thenukeou are a newbie.01:25
LinuxJonesrolf01:25
microhaxohahaha01:25
microhaxonice :D01:25
skallersee for yourself http://felix.sf.net01:26
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thenuke" < skaller> so how do i su to root?01:26
thenuke:D01:26
thenukeyeah01:26
Burgundaviaskaller, if you truly want to run breezy, just switch all references to breezy from hoary01:26
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skallerso?01:26
oneironrolling01:26
thenukeBurgundavia: please dont help newbies doing that :D01:26
skalleri tried that01:26
Burgundaviathenuke, notice I said that if you want to, and I warned him01:26
nalioththenuke: c'mon man, he's so advanced, he can't remember the small stuff01:26
Burgundaviaif they still want to, they can have fun01:27
skallersigh ..01:27
thenukeBurgundavia: notice also that every newbie might then come back here to whine that breezy break their system and asking for help to fix that...01:27
Burgundaviathenuke, yes01:27
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thenukeBurgundavia: that's why you and no one should not help anyone to do that..01:27
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Haldrik /msg NickServ IDENTIFY pass01:28
skallerI have hoary running, ok01:28
Burgundaviaskaller, I would leave yourself at hoary until early july01:28
skalleri need to set up a breezy system on another partition01:28
vHintswenon ubuntu my mouse doesn't work, last night someone said to switch the mouse with a ps2 mouse and if it works i have to change a line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf does anyone know what line i would have to change and what i change it to(current mouse is a serial mouse)01:28
LinuxJonesskaller, did you run apt-get update before trying the dist-upgrade ?01:28
Burgundaviaskaller, there are the colony cds, but I cannot remember the url right now01:28
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kbrooks_uh01:29
xedThings NOT to do at work: Go on IRC.01:29
skallerlol01:29
kbrooks_is brctl in ubuntu?01:29
sixhatvHintswen, What kind of mouse do you have? A Serial (COM1?) Type?01:29
vHintswenthe mouse that's connected to it right now is serial01:29
HaldrikHey guys, new install and suddenly my ONLY user (no root password set) has lost "sudo" privileges....any solution short of reinstall ? (I tried using the install disk as rescue and finding the "visudo" exec, but it's not found on the disk!)01:30
skallerall i want is to get the /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/breezy01:30
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kbrooks_kyle@CPE0050ba557516-CM000039d12a5d:~/Desktop/xen-2.0-install $ sudo apt-cache search brctl01:30
kbrooks_kyle@CPE0050ba557516-CM000039d12a5d:~/Desktop/xen-2.0-install $01:30
vHintsweni was gonna switch it with a PS2 mouse(but only 1 ps2 slot so i can't have keyboard in at same time01:30
Burgundaviaskaller, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20050618/01:30
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sixhatvHintswen, Edit xorg.conf ... seek Section "InputDevice"01:30
vHintsweni don't know how to edit stuff01:31
LinuxJonesvHintswen, >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerialMouseHowto01:31
vHintswenand i don't know what i change the line to01:31
vHintswenthx01:31
naliothvHintswen: any time someone says "edit this" you can use any text editor you desire (as long as its plain text)01:31
sixhatvHintswen, change "Protocol" to "Auto" and "Device" to /dev/ttyS001:31
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skallerBurgundavia .. I need to do a network install from my local mirror01:32
sixhatvHintswen, to edit just use nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:32
Burgundaviaskaller, hmm, canna help you on that01:32
skallerbecause downloads from it are not metererd01:32
sixhatform a root terminal01:32
vHintswennalioth, i know practly nothing about linux. i dunno how to open a text editor with commands lol01:32
skallerI can see the cd images there01:32
skallerftp://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/daily-installer-amd64/20050317ubuntu5.0.20050611/doc/manual/en/apcs04.html01:32
skallerbut I am following these directions01:33
sixhatvHintswen, Open a Terminal Window from APLICATIONS menu...01:33
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vHintswen?01:33
vHintswenthe stuff on that page won't work lol...01:34
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sixhatvHintswen, Preferably a Root Terminal Window... Cause will need to write the xorg.conf file after editing...01:34
skaller# /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch ARCH breezy \01:34
skaller     /mnt/debinst http://http.us.debian.org/debian01:34
skallerit says to do that .. but it doesn't work due to lack of the script01:34
naliothvHintswen: from a terminal, you can open any program available01:34
vHintswenyesterday i used 'sudo cat /dev/ttyS0' to check if mouse works01:34
vHintswenand 'sudo cat /dev/ttyS1'01:34
sixhatvHintswen, If you could read Portuguese... http://sextoboi.blogspot.com/2005/06/rato-srie-com1-no-ubuntu-live.html01:34
naliothvHintswen: some common gui text eds are gedit, nedit, kate, and for cli a simple editor is nano01:34
vHintswenboth gave errors01:34
thenukeeeeee-hele. 02:23 < skaller> I need to install breezy | 02:24 < thenuke> skaller: are you sure you need breezy :) it will break immediately or a bit later. | 02:24 < skaller> lol, i am a developer |  aiemmin sanottua: "< skaller> does anyone know the starting password of root?" && " < skaller> so how do i su to root?"01:35
likkashotwell Im back after 3 othe distros and cant solve anything so ill stay with ubuntu01:35
thenukeoops, wrong channel, sorry..01:35
LinuxJonesthenuke, what are you doing ?01:36
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sixhatvHintswen, the simplest way to open a new terminal.. is by ALT+CTRL+F201:36
thenukeLinuxJones: I was pasting that to other channel? did you not figure that out by ur self?01:36
skallerthenuke you should be quiet, you are clearly a stupid small boy01:36
skallerubuntu is not my expertise01:36
thenukeskaller: laf ;D I might me little(short) but you are stupid ;D01:36
vHintswenwhat's the point of onening a new terminal?01:37
likkashotwhat is the easyest way to activate a network card that has not been doscovered during setup01:37
LinuxJonesthenuke, don't call people names here01:37
kbrooks_okay01:37
kbrooks_i need brctl01:37
sixhatvHintswen, If you are stuck with a frezed mouse pointer...01:37
kbrooks_bridge control utilities01:37
kbrooks_now01:37
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kbrooks_NOW!01:37
skallerthanks Linux, do you happen to know where I can get /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/breezy?01:38
D1are there any packages for the 2.6.12 kernel taht just came out for hoary?01:38
vHintswen..?01:38
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kbrooks_skaller, dont use breezy01:38
kbrooks_RTOSFT01:38
virtualdosft?01:38
kbrooks_read the oh, so fine topic01:38
skallerI need to use the glibc on breezy01:38
LinuxJonesskaller, do sorry I don't know01:39
virtualdB)01:39
vHintswenomg i'm lost01:39
skallerto make a debian package against it01:39
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likkashotwhat is the easyest way to activate a network card that has not been doscovered during setup01:39
jbaileyskaller: Switching to the breezy glibc has unfortunate side effects, I really don't recommend it.01:39
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likkashotits a marvel yukon01:39
skallerI know it has unfortunate side effects :)01:39
jbaileyskaller: The most irritating of which is that if you don't update your initrd-tools, you won't be able to boot after your next kernel install.01:39
c_rodgehow can i view .w,v files in ubuntu, if it is possible??01:39
likkashotsuposed to be using th sk98lin driver01:39
virtualdi upgraded to breezy without seeing the topic first, i get lots of problems but i can manage01:39
c_rodgewmv*01:40
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c_rodgeis there a way to view wmv files in hoary01:40
kong0does anybody know a great codec for mp3?01:40
kong0xmms doesnt work for me...01:40
thenukec_rodge: c_rodge http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs01:40
thenukekong0: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs01:40
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c_rodgeive done that01:41
c_rodgeand i still cant view files from the interent01:41
c_rodgethat are wmv01:41
lsuactiafnerkong0 : run alsamixer and unmite your volume01:42
skallerjbailey, I have to build against a package that is not available in hoary01:42
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lsuactiafnerc_rodge : you run a 64bit system?01:42
c_rodgeno01:42
likkashothmm01:42
lsuactiafnerthen you havent installed the codecs correctly01:42
c_rodgethen i dont know how to01:43
jbaileyskaller: Usually better to backport the package to Hoary rather than play with glibc.01:43
lsuactiafnerbbl01:43
skallerI will have to use .5 gglibc evenually ..01:43
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c_rodgehow do i install codecs on hary so i can view wmv files from the internet01:43
skallermight as well be now ;(01:43
c_rodgehoary01:43
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naliothwell!01:44
naliothi've finally gotten java working01:44
naliothand my CPU went thru the roof01:44
likkashotwhats the name of the help canel?01:45
skallerserves you right for using Java, lol :)01:45
c_rodgehow do i install codeds01:45
c_rodgecodecs01:45
naliothskaller: well, i've been avoiding it for the longest, but i'm bored atm01:45
skallerhehe :)01:45
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skalleryou could learn a decent language like Ocaml or Haskell01:46
naliothi run a iBook G3/600 and am seein how long it takes for azuerus to start up01:46
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HrdwrBoBhaskell the worlds most useless language?01:46
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naliothc_rodge: listen to ubotu01:46
nalioth!Restricted01:46
ubotufrom memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:46
newbiedudehow do i set a password on phpmyadmin???01:46
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c_rodgewhat?01:47
HrdwrBoBnewbiedude: it uses the passwords that mysql does01:47
newbiedudewhat do u mean>01:47
c_rodgei just want to be able to view wmv files from the internet in ubunut01:47
naliothc_rodge: wmv9 will be a long time coming01:48
newbiedudewhat if i don't know the password?01:48
HrdwrBoBnewbiedude: set a password for mysql; you've set a password for phpmyadmin01:48
likkashotthanks fo the help :((((01:48
naliothc_rodge: go to www.mplayerhq.hu and download the codecs there (read the instructions for installation while you're  there)01:48
HrdwrBoBok by default there's no root password, BUT you can only connect from localhost01:48
ompaulc_rodge, we understand that, however in order for you to do that it is a simple matter of reading the web page  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats as told to you by the channel robot ubotu, there you will (A) find out what you need to do (B) why you need to do this01:48
newbiedudehow do u set a psssword for mysql???????????01:48
HrdwrBoBnewbiedude: one question mark is sufficient01:48
newbiedudesorry01:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there a good program for burning cd's in ubuntu?01:49
HrdwrBoByou need to be clearer01:49
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: k3b01:49
Razor-Xnalioth: i'm still asking about Konsole ;)01:49
newbiedudebyebye01:49
Razor-XI think I may have to change to aterm/eterm... :(01:49
Razor-Xbut, I love Konsole01:49
naliothRazor-X: for what?01:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth isn't that for kde?01:49
HrdwrBoBI think what you'll find you need is GRANT ALL ON *.* TO username@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'yourpassword'01:49
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: it will run fine under gnome01:49
LinuxJonesChurcH_of_FoamY, gnomebaker or graveman are very good also01:50
ompaulChurcH_of_FoamY, you can install it under gnome and run it there01:50
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Razor-XChurcH_of_FoamY: and it's better than Gnomebaker01:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYreally?01:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYnice01:50
Razor-XK3B, IMO, is the most powerful CD burning app01:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYi tryed k3b and found it to be better than roxio or easy cd creator01:50
ompaulChurcH_of_FoamY, ever hear of Linux, it offers so much choice01:50
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ChurcH_of_FoamYvery comprehensive01:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYi love linux01:50
Razor-Xompaul: i'm writing a guide with as many choices as I can offer01:51
LinuxJonesChurcH_of_FoamY, so do we :)01:51
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: and linux loves you01:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYeven more now that winxp toasted my vid card >.<01:51
Razor-Xnalioth: i'll go on to the package manager section?01:51
Razor-XChurcH_of_FoamY: doncha hate Windoze? ;)01:51
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ChurcH_of_FoamYyea i stuck my copy of xp in the microwave01:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYto watch it sparkle01:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYstupid xp >.<01:51
Razor-Xgood job!!01:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYfry my vid card will ya01:52
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: i give windoze CDs to my enemies01:52
Razor-Xthat's a hell of a Linux initiation01:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol01:52
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi had that vid card for 6 years01:52
Razor-Xhah!01:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYand it worked fine til xp gotta hold of it01:52
Razor-Xyeah, that XP sucks01:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYfriday i got the copys of ubuntu i orderd in01:53
ompaulChurcH_of_FoamY, it used to be a tradition amoung some friends of mine to fire up a gas heater and place the CD in front of it where it would bend and buckle, these would then be glued to the noc wall01:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol nice01:53
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi just nuke em lol01:53
microhaxoguys01:53
HrdwrBoBompaul: deal P301:53
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microhaxoi have a Gzip file01:53
HrdwrBoBdual even01:53
lamp_n801:53
Razor-Xthis box still double-boots XP01:53
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Razor-Xbecause of my dad01:54
ompaulHrdwrBoB, it is01:54
microhaxobut it says archive not supported01:54
microhaxohow do i open?01:54
Razor-Xas far as he knows, Linux doesen't exist on this machine01:54
Razor-Xmicrohaxo: gunzip foo.gz01:54
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microhaxohehe01:54
Razor-Xunless it's tar.gz or .tgz01:54
HrdwrBoBI have a P3 933 dual as my TV box .. bit of a waste but hey01:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYas far as i can see this box is xp free ^_^01:54
naliothmicrohaxo: and if that doesnt work, the file is probably bad01:54
HrdwrBoBI haven't run windows for about 12 months01:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYdown with pax microsoftia!01:55
naliothHrdwrBoB: ya got some catchin up to do01:55
hksduhello all, I have a quick question, for sudoers, I don't see my account but I am the only user who can sudo, how does that work?01:55
naliothHrdwrBoB: i've been filth-free for over 5 years01:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYto my sadness discoverd linux 2 monthes ago01:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYnever knew such a great thing existed01:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYnow i'm hooked01:55
Razor-XChurcH_of_FoamY: been using it since I was 11, 4 years ago that was01:55
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ompaulNalioth I got my first installed FreeBSD box in 199401:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYwow nice01:56
HrdwrBoBhksdu: you are in group 'admin'01:56
HrdwrBoBhksdu: admin has sudo right01:56
HrdwrBoBs01:56
xedDamnit01:56
xedI'm bored at work.01:56
LinuxJoneshksdu, your user account should have been aded to sudoers01:56
LinuxJoneserr added01:56
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HrdwrBoBLinuxJones: no, the admin group is added01:57
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hksduHrdwrBoB: I added a new user using useradd and modified it as a member in admin but I cannot ssh to this remote machine01:57
ompaulwoops 198101:57
xedOld school.01:57
ChurcH_of_FoamYRPG2?01:57
LinuxJonesHrdwrBoB, well my user accound got added by the Ubuntu installer during install01:57
hksduLinuxJones: yeah, cuz it's the default user account when i installed this system.01:57
ompaulreport generator as fast as I can remember01:57
HrdwrBoBhksdu: I'm missing the link between sudo and ssh?01:57
HrdwrBoBLinuxJones: in warty yes01:57
ompaulit is over 20 years ago :)01:57
LinuxJoneshksdu, this is another account your in ?01:58
XandriXwell grabbign ubuntu fr my second pc right now as wee speak01:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYisen't warty broken still?01:58
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HrdwrBoBChurcH_of_FoamY: warty is the old release01:58
LinuxJonesHrdwrBoB, I did a clean install of Hoary about 2 weeks ago01:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh i see01:58
hksduHrdwrBoB: sorry, what I meant was that when I ssh using my default user account(created during installation), I could do that but I couldn't use the new account that I created on ssh server to ssh from a remote machine.01:58
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XandriXi alreayd have slax on it im gonan isntall ubuntu to01:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow do you guys get your text to appere red with my name in it?01:59
flodinea guys i installed those atwiz font but dont see them whats the deal01:59
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ompaul ChurcH_of_FoamY the program does that not us01:59
BrutusUnixwhat is the default root password?01:59
ThE__OnEcan someone do me a favor?01:59
ThE__OnEPM me?01:59
ompaulChurcH_of_Foam  see it does not happen here01:59
lonewolffBrutusUnix: there is none01:59
HrdwrBoBhksdu: can you login locally?01:59
lonewolffBrutusUnix: you dont actually need one01:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh i see01:59
flodineanyone running artwiz fonts01:59
hksduHrdwrBoB: hmm..haven't tried cuz that server is put aside at the corner..lol...no monitor to try it out...02:00
hksduHrdwrBoB: and what's the difference between useradd and adduser?02:00
ThE__OnEplease02:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYthers no k3b icon in my u-bar02:00
BrutusUnixsounds like a flaw to me02:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow do i get to it?02:00
lonewolffBrutusUnix: we use sudo to run programs as root, sudo bash will give you a root shell, and if you must set a root password sudo passwd will do it02:00
HrdwrBoBadduser is a script which makes the directory and sets up the permissions and sutff like that02:00
HrdwrBoBuseradd is a bare program for adding users02:00
lonewolffBrutusUnix: root login is disabled by default unless you set the root password02:01
HrdwrBoBBrutusUnix: you can use 'sudo' with your password to run root commands02:01
ompauluseradd - Create a new user or update default new user information :: adduser, addgroup - add a user or group to the system<- this information was obtained by typing the command and the word man before it 'man useradd'02:01
BrutusUnixok I just did sudo passwd02:01
hksduHrdwrBoB: then when should I use adduser? cuz useradd seems like having the same options to adduser02:01
BrutusUnixbut this should have asked me on install02:01
HrdwrBoByou should not use useradd02:02
lonewolffBrutusUnix: why? its not required02:02
BrutusUnixsounds like a flaw to the system setup02:02
HrdwrBoBuse adduser02:02
HrdwrBoBBrutusUnix: why?02:02
hksduHrdwrBoB: why?02:02
BrutusUnixroot should have a password02:02
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HrdwrBoBhksdu: useradd is a tad more advanced, adduser will do more thigns for you02:02
ompaulBrutusUnix, no it should not02:02
HrdwrBoBBrutusUnix: why.02:02
lonewolffBrutusUnix: we take an approach similar to that of mac os X and dont allow root logins, using sudo to runs things as root when required02:02
ompaulBrutusUnix, using sudo allows all actions by the authorised user to be logged by syslog02:03
HrdwrBoBBrutusUnix: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:03
BrutusUnixyes I know what sudo dose02:03
Razor-Xhmmmm... for a terminal emulator, i'ld like something where I can set a variable to true, and suddenly, both Alt keys behave as meta keys, and Caps Lock becomes Control02:03
ompaulBrutusUnix, if you need a root shell what is wrong with sudo -s02:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYis it possible for a haxor to run sudo on your box from outside the network?02:03
BrutusUnixbut this means anyone can do sudo without using a password02:03
Razor-XChurcH_of_FoamY: nopes02:03
HrdwrBoBChurcH_of_FoamY: only if they a) know your password and b) have compromised your computer already02:03
hksduHrdwrBoB: thanks, let me try02:03
Razor-Xunless they become you from outside the box02:03
lonewolffBrutusUnix: no! only users in the admin group can02:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYok sweet02:04
pepsianyone using breezy?02:04
ompaulBrutusUnix, no, the first user is in wheel, the rest are not02:04
HrdwrBoBBrutusUnix: no, root is disabled, not passwordless02:04
HrdwrBoBompaul: wheel is admin :)02:04
ompaulHrdwrBoB, I show my age :)02:04
BrutusUnixso their is no wheel group on ubuntu?02:04
HrdwrBoBpepsi: not recommended at the moment :)02:04
Razor-Xnobody knows of such terminal emultor?02:04
pepsiHrdwrBoB, i am quite aware of that... but ive been running it for weeks now02:05
ChurcH_of_FoamY#ChurcH_of_FoamY02:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat was odd02:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYok02:05
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ompaulBrutusUnix, no wheel adm is actually the group02:05
HrdwrBoBRazor-X: that's a keymap issue02:05
ompaulBrutusUnix, concept exactly the same02:06
HrdwrBoByou will want to get something that modifies your keymap02:06
Razor-XHrdwrBoB: well, terminals sometimes affect keymap02:06
Razor-XI know some terminal make Ctrl+/ = C-_02:06
Razor-Xwhile some don't02:06
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ThE__OnEin X-Chat i added %O$3 to the Advanced - Text Events - channel messages, like here in http://www.xchat.org/faq/#q26, but it does'nt save after i press OK, any reason?02:07
ompaulBrutusUnix, of course you can alter it so others may be in adm and you can do a lot of other stuff with sudo but you know this already02:07
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hksduHrdwrBoB: After I created an user using adduser, how do I add it to the admin group?02:08
HrdwrBoBhksdu: usermod -g admin username02:08
HrdwrBoBor you can use the graphical user utility02:08
kong0how do i install the codecs for xmms the console couldnt find them...?02:08
HrdwrBoBkong0: codecs for xmms?02:08
HrdwrBoBit should install them automatically02:08
kong0yes02:09
hksduHrdwrBoB: o....I cannot add the user to a group when I use adduser? like a flag or something like that?02:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYubuntu games are neat ^_^02:09
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HrdwrBoByes adduser -g admin username02:09
kong0it doesnt play mp3 so far so i seem to need additional codecs for it02:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYplays gnometis02:09
hksduHrdwrBoB: I am trying hard on commands only so I am using ssh from remote machine to my server and do adduser...no GUI for...:P02:09
hksduHrdwrBoB: thanks a lot02:09
HrdwrBoBhksdu: wait02:09
HrdwrBoBadduser name group02:09
HrdwrBoBnot -g02:09
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hksduHrdwrBoB: I tried, it said that user does not exist02:10
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xedI am le bored =(02:10
HrdwrBoBhksdu: then the user doesn't exist02:10
DawsonIve installed MySQL, and am unable to secure the initial user accounts - perhaps something to do with it being disabled on ubuntu. Anyone have any ideas how to set it up?02:10
HrdwrBoBhksdu: just because it's remote doesn't mean no gui02:10
ChurcH_of_FoamY<--wonders if he can format his thumb drive ext302:10
hksduHrdwrBoB: yeah..I mean on creation, I cannot give a flag to add it to group at the same time I create?02:10
kong0can anyone pls give me the adress to that wonderful site with lots of ubuntu software installations?02:10
HrdwrBoBhksdu: you can login with ssh -X -C user@host and get X apps on your machine02:10
hksduDawson: what do you mean by initial user accounts?02:11
kobskong0: the ubuntu guide?02:11
HrdwrBoBhksdu: adduser user group02:11
kong0uhuh02:11
HrdwrBoBChurcH_of_FoamY: you can02:11
kobswww.ubuntuguide.org02:11
HrdwrBoBChurcH_of_FoamY: I wouldn't02:11
anto9usChurcH_of_FoamY: that would stop you using it on a windows machine02:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYproblems02:11
HrdwrBoBChurcH_of_FoamY: I keep my removable media FAT3202:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok02:11
hksduHrdwrBoB: wow...sounds very fun....but I am using cygwin to ssh to my Ubuntu box...:p02:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYi see02:11
Dawsonhksdu: Well, ive installed the server. Usually you need to set intial passwords, etc. It doesnt seem to want to let me do that.02:11
HrdwrBoBhksdu: you can still do it you just need a local X server.. but yeah02:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYweard question anyone play postal 2 in linux yet?02:12
HrdwrBoBanto9us: it would stop you using it on J random windows machine02:12
HrdwrBoBwhich is the whole point of usb removable storage02:12
hksduDawson: the default account is usually root without password, what you need to do is to use mysqladmin to change your password02:12
anto9usHrdwrBoB: yes :)02:12
abarbacciahey all, i'm making a mythtv ubuntu website, anybody know of a cheap webhosting place that allows access to a mysql database?02:12
xedI'm bored at work.  I blame this on the economy.02:12
anto9usxed: you're overpayed02:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know?02:13
kong0YEEEEEES!!! I HAVE MUSIC!!!02:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just got the game and it rocks02:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol02:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYcongrats02:13
kong0where can i dl that or do you have to buy it?02:13
kong0 postal im referring to that is02:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYyou have to buy it02:14
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ChurcH_of_FoamYit has copy protection02:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYso you can't copy it >.<02:14
Dawsonhksdu: No can do: error: 'Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)'02:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYat least not on a winbox02:14
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hksduHrdwrBoB: o...when I use adduser to add an user, it doesn't ask for password, so I have to login as that user to change password but if I don't create password, I can't ssh to that machine to change password..what should I do?02:15
Dawsonhksdu: Thats using the mysqladmin command, as given in the MySQL Docs.02:15
HrdwrBoBanto9us: I'm overpaid, lots of people are 'overpaid'02:15
stuNNedanyone successfully use cedega on ubuntu hoary?02:15
zythstuNNed, yep.02:15
HrdwrBoBhksdu: sudo passwd user02:15
kong0is wine payware?02:15
stuNNedzyth: ok thanks, which games?  going to try men of valor: vietnam, but it's not rated at transgaming.com, think it'll work?02:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://www.gopostal.com/02:15
anto9usHrdwrBoB: yes, and I should be one of them :)02:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYis where you can get it02:15
zythstuNNed, no clue, the only game I use it for is World of Warcraft.02:16
hksduDawson: yeah...and you have to do that to create your admin password, which is your initial password.  Besides, when you try to connect using root, don't just do mysql -u root -p because this is different from mysql -h localhost -u -p02:16
kong0Is Wine Payware?02:16
stuNNedzyth: and World of Warcraft runs w/out a hitch?02:16
hksduHrdwrBoB: ic...thanks a lot, I will try02:16
zythstuNNed, yep.02:16
stuNNedzyth: ok, thanks again02:16
zythnp02:16
zythkong0, www.winehq.com02:16
kong0hmm ill just have to asume it is since i cant find it02:16
kong0ok thx02:17
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HrdwrBoBanto9us: a combination of hard work, the right attitude, a modicum of skills and being in the right place at the right time will get you tehre02:17
HrdwrBoBprimarily though - it's attitude02:17
anto9usHrdwrBoB: I'm not doing too bad02:17
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anto9usHrdwrBoB: I enjoy my work, recently struck a better pay structure because of the very things you mentioned and I don't get time to be bored02:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYholy $hit! O_O02:18
Dawsonhksdu: so it's not: mysqladmin -u root password new_pass ? If not... what is it? :/02:18
HrdwrBoBah excellent02:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYthey make postal 2 for linux ^_^02:18
HrdwrBoBenjoying your work is <302:18
zythChurcH_of_FoamY, um.. yeah, that's been out a long time02:19
zyththere's a demo you can download.02:19
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwell i just found out about it lol02:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYi have the winsucks version02:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhich um sucks02:20
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ThE__OnEin X-Chat i added %O$3 to the Advanced - Text Events - channel messages, like here in http://www.xchat.org/faq/#q26, but it does'nt save after i press OK, any reason?02:21
X7Chas anyone been able to route a wifi lan throug eth0 on a computer to internet using shorewall?02:21
darkThE__OnE: (stupid question) did you hit enter?02:21
pepsiThE__OnE, you may want to ask in #xchat02:21
ablyssi routed my eth1 but not with wifi02:22
ablyssalso i used iptables not shorewall02:22
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X7Ci also did that but the problem i come at is that when i try to start shorewall it won't recognize wlan0 cause it is not defined in /etc/network/interfaces but is defined by the start_net script for wifi stuff02:23
kong0i installed ubuntu 2day and i like it more every second02:23
X7Cfor D-Link....02:23
microhaxohow the hell do i run CEDEGA?02:23
bl4cktonesame here kong0 I love this thing just installed it today also02:23
microhaxocedega install.exe?02:23
xedinstall.exe?!02:23
ThE__OnElol, srry, i thought they were talking about pressing OK02:23
microhaxofor02:23
microhaxoapps02:24
xedI'm so lost now.02:24
microhaxoomg02:24
microhaxoto EMULATE A EXE02:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYtry #cedega the will help you there02:24
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kong0but ive heard from many that ubuntu would be *less good* :P , than madrake or gentoo02:24
cthulfuegokong0: Why would it be less good?02:24
kong0its not that avdenced i guess02:25
cthulfuegokong0: Are those people mandrake or gentoo usres that haven't ever tried ubuntu?02:25
waterbeetleanyone know how to run a jnlp file?  i have java installed correctly02:25
bl4cktoneI got ubuntu for my inspiron 9300 everything is running even wireless just need to get bluetooth going02:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYi tryed gentoo it sucked02:25
kong0the dude i know who has gentoo says that gentoo is best...02:25
cthulfuegokong0: Ubuntu is based on Debian, which is far more advanced than both Gentoo and Mandrake combined <heh>02:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYto many things to manually do02:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYand the compile time where horrid02:25
kong0nah think many have tried everything b4 they settle with something02:25
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cthulfuegokong0: Gentoo is mainly a large waste of time02:25
ablyssdepends on how you define advanced02:25
tuxrockscan anyone help me?02:26
tuxrocksphpmyadmin isnt coming up02:26
tuxrocksthere is just a blank page02:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow do i change the name of my harddrive?02:26
kong0ur offered more control in gentoo that i am pretty convinced of02:26
tuxrocksbut no error message02:26
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ablysscthulfuego, nice bro02:27
kong0Is devian more advanced than gentoo or mandrake? then why is it good for beginners?02:27
flodineis anyone on raid using ubuntu02:27
anto9uskong0: they're not mutually exclusive concepts02:27
cthulfuegokong0: Becuase it comes with precompiled software that uses sane default settings.02:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYbecuase it just works02:27
waterbeetleI want to run a jnpl file in firefox, but when I do it just opens a blank browser... any ideas?02:27
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flodinecan ubuntu do raid02:27
cthulfuegokong0: Amnd due to the way the precompiled packages are created, it's easy to tweak them if you need to.02:27
kong0huh? english or at least latin :P02:27
anto9usflodine: yes02:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes it can02:28
cthulfuegoflodine: Yes02:28
tuxrocksphpmyadmin isnt coming up there is just a blank page, any ideas??02:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYi am running software raid 102:28
flodinedo i need drivers to do raid in buntu02:28
anto9uskong0: one doesn't discount the other02:28
kong0remember folks i installed it today (or yesterday?)...so be patient02:28
kong0guess so02:28
cthulfuegoflodine: Don't use a promise or highpoint "card" in raid mode.02:28
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vHintsweni'm in xorgconfig but i don't know what my vedio card is, what can i do?02:29
cthulfuegoflodine: Use them in iode mode and set up kernel software raid.02:29
microhaxohow do you convert TAR to DEB?02:29
tuxrocksphpmyadmin isnt coming up there is just a blank page, any ideas?02:29
cthulfuego'lspci'02:29
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skallerin case anyone is interested, breezy install manual C.4.2. Install debootstrap could need updating02:29
kong0it just seems like the "leets" should tinker with ubuntu if that were the case02:30
microhaxoyo, how do i convert a .tar to .deb02:30
microhaxo?02:30
skallersays this:# tar -xf debootstrap_0.X.X_arch.deb02:30
skaller# cd /02:30
skaller# zcat /full-path-to-work/work/data.tar.gz | tar xv02:30
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kong0does anybody know what linux torvalds use?02:30
vHintsweni'm in xorgconfig but i don't know what my vedio card is, what can i do?02:30
kong0is it GNU?02:30
LinuxJoneskong0, a macintosh02:30
skallercorrect instruction is to unpack debootstrap_0.X.X_arch.tar.gz02:30
cthulfuegokong0: Well, I do! ;-)02:30
kong0lol02:30
kong0u serious?02:31
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CountDownkong0: yup.02:31
microhaxoanyone02:31
skallerthen ./debootstrap .... breezy ...02:31
microhaxohow the hell do you convert .tar to .deb02:31
kong0the Creator is using Mac...02:31
HrdwrBoBmicrohaxo: you don't02:31
LinuxJoneskong0, >> http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/0,39023165,39183867,00.htm02:31
CountDownmicrohaxo: chill.  first untar the file.02:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYwonder why?02:31
vHintsweni'm in xorgconfig but i don't know what my vedio card is, what can i do?02:31
kong0well i guess tiger seems like a lot of fun02:31
cthulfuegokong0: Just because I prfer to not spend my time waiting for source to compile dopesn't mean I'm not an advanced user. I've been waiting for compiles since bloody 1996. No need or inclination to keep doing that.02:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYdid he change it to some form of linux?02:31
zerokillsguys, im having trouble with my sound and video: Totem movie player plays the sound but no video, VLC plays the video but no sound... any ideas?02:31
kong0try to start them both at the same time :P02:32
CountDownmicrohaxo: Are you familiar with the tar command?02:32
zerokillshehe, i was thinkin that too ;p02:32
kong0meant no offense dude02:32
vHintsweni'm in xorgconfig but i don't know what my vedio card is, what can i do?02:33
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi got ubuntu to run on a p233 with 32mb ram today02:33
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cthulfuegovHintswen: Run 'lspci' in a console.02:33
waterbeetlejava webstart a jnlp file?  howto?02:33
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ChurcH_of_FoamYworks good02:33
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CountDownChurcH_of_FoamY: Whoa, cool.  Did you have to do anything special for that?02:33
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ChurcH_of_FoamYnope02:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYjust update the vid card a little02:33
vHintswenthx02:33
cthulfuegoChurcH_of_FoamY: I assume you're not running Gnome on it?02:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYit was a compaq deskpro02:33
CountDownChurcH_of_FoamY: Just the install disk?  Can you run OO.org?02:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes i am02:33
cthulfuegoChurcH_of_FoamY: Are you _insane_ ?02:33
microhaxook02:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYnope runs smooth too ^_^02:34
microhaxoi untared it02:34
CountDownChurcH_of_FoamY: Your drive must be grinding doing all that swapping.02:34
microhaxoits a folder02:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYsurprised the hell outta me02:34
microhaxowith other folders02:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYnope02:34
microhaxonow what02:34
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cthulfuegoit doesn't even run smoothly on a box with 256Mb here02:34
waterbeetlelinux brings new life to old computers...02:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYi thought it would but to my surprise it just worked02:34
CountDownmicrohaxo: Hmm.  Does it look like there's a .deb in there?  what kind of files are there?02:34
microhaxofolders02:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYno hi swapping or nothin02:34
Nardok guys02:34
microhaxo.sh02:34
microhaxo?02:34
microhaxousr02:35
microhaxobin, lib share02:35
cthulfuegoChurcH_of_FoamY: Um. Xorg uses more ram to run that that box has. it *has* to swap if it were to run Gnome.02:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just did a normal install and it worked download times and compile times where02:35
NardWhen i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up02:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYsomething to be desired02:35
kong0*SLOW REACTION* ouch dude02:35
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwell it has one of those noisy hard drives ya know02:36
vHintswenhow can i check how much memory i got on my card?02:36
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iamnowwhats a good calendar?02:36
siimohi can the guy that was telling  me to use checkinstall for gaim, how do i use it?02:36
CountDownI have no idea what kind of files you have, but it seems that you are meant to run the shell script (.sh) to do something.  Doing so could be very bad if you don't trust the source of these files.02:36
kong0im going to dl some naruto :P02:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's actually running ver quiet you can tell when it's seeking and looking for data02:36
Nannohiiripaska02:36
vHintswenhow can i check how much memory i got on my vedio card?02:36
Nannohiiripissa02:36
Nannohiiripaskapas02:36
Nannohiiripaskapas02:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYit makes noises only a 3.2 gighd but it runs02:37
vHintswen?02:37
Nannohiiriwher is the hacking buton on plinxu?02:37
Nannohiirii want to know02:37
kong0man, u gotta love theese forums02:37
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Nannohiirihelp me i ge tmy02:37
Nannohiirimandrake fixed02:37
Nardso can any one help me02:37
vHintswenhow can i check how much memory i got on my vedio card?02:37
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eirhhow i can02:37
Nannohiirii installed mandrake 6.3 4 hours02:37
siimovHintswen, what card02:37
eirhhack02:37
eirhmicrosift.com02:37
Nannohiiriwher is hacking button02:37
eirhi hate02:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYthen i had to try it on a mac 5400/120 and it works just fine there too02:37
eirhbecause my windowsi is brokening02:37
Nannohiirii tould that the linux is hacking for hacker02:37
eirhhahahaha!02:37
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eirhthats why i using ubuntu02:37
eirhits so cool02:37
Nannohiirihahaha! eirh you stupid be quiet i was here first u stupid02:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea it is02:38
eirhi like the open sourcdi!!02:38
vHintswenlol no clue02:38
eirhyou can edit it much!02:38
eirhbut how i hack???02:38
siimono clue??02:38
Nannohiirii care about that it is open source02:38
vHintswenlspci gave me a few results dunno which is vedio card02:38
eirhi had hacking program02:38
Nannohiirii can do somehthing with it02:38
Nannohiiri99% can02:38
eirhjust was hacking putong02:38
Nannohiirii think02:38
LinuxJonesNannohiiri, stop spamming02:38
Nard When i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up02:38
eirhwhere is linux hacking buton02:38
eirhi wahtin!!102:38
siimovHintswen, which one says VGA02:38
eirhYOU STUPID ASSHOLES02:38
Nannohiirilinuxjones stop gaying02:38
eirhWHY DONT YOU TELL ME02:38
eirhYOU IDIOTS02:38
vHintswen1 sec02:38
eirhHAHAHAHA!!!02:38
eirhIM GONA HACKER YOU02:38
eirhHAHAHAHAHA02:38
NannohiiriIM TOO02:38
eirhI HAVE MAB NET TOOLS V302:38
eirhYOU STUPIDS02:38
NannohiiriEIRH COME TO MY ANTILINUXHACKINGLCNA?02:38
eirhHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!02:38
eirh=DXD02:38
eirhYEAH02:38
NannohiiriPLEESE?02:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYwow dude that was quite rude02:38
NannohiiriPLESE02:38
eirhLETS GO THERE02:38
NardWILL SOMEONEHELP ME!!!!!!!!02:39
Nannohiiriok02:39
Nard When i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up02:39
eirh#LINUXHACKERZ02:39
Nannohiiri#8924894984302:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYnow shut up and go away02:39
eirhYOU SHUTTING UP02:39
eirhYOU STUPIDOSZ02:39
eirhI HATEING U02:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYbefore you invoke my squerlly rath02:39
eirhWHY DONT YOU TELL ME WHERE IS HACKING BUTTOn02:39
Nannohiiri#8924894984302:39
Nannohiiri#8924894984302:39
Nannohiiri#8924894984302:39
Nannohiiri#8924894984302:39
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Nannohiiri#8924894984302:39
Nannohiiri#8924894984302:39
HrdwrBoBChurcH_of_FoamY: squirrely02:39
eirhYOU WANT IT FOR YOURSELFING02:39
Nannohiiri#8924894984302:39
eirhI KNOWING02:39
eirhYOU STUPID02:39
Nannohiiricome ther02:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYgood now go away you 10 tear old fucktard02:39
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eirhASSHOLES02:39
NardHELP ME!!!!!!!!!!02:39
Nannohiirii hack u then02:39
Nannohiiri#8924894984302:39
Nard When i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up02:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYthanx02:39
eirhYOU STUPID02:39
Nannohiiri#8924894984302:39
Nannohiiri#8924894984302:39
eirhTELL ME02:39
eirhWHERE02:39
eirhIS02:39
Nannohiiri#8924894984302:39
eirhLINUx02:39
eirhHACKING02:39
eirhBUTTOn02:39
NannohiiriJJOIN #8924894984302:39
eirhYOU02:39
likkashotcommon02:39
eirhSTUPID02:39
eirhASSHOLES02:39
eirh=!!!?!?!?!?!?02:39
NannohiiriTHER IS NO HACING BUTON02:39
iamnowisnt there a gnome calendar?02:39
eirhTELLING02:39
ablyssiggy time02:39
eirh????02:39
eirhISTN TNERE?02:40
kong0is he spamming or something?02:40
LinuxJonesla la la la02:40
NannohiiriALL THE STUF ABOUT linuX HACKinG IS FALSE02:40
eirhbut i have nmap02:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYcan sumone kick this asshat please?02:40
eirhi hack you with it02:40
likkashothey kid stop that02:40
NannohiiriTHey liED TO uS02:40
NannohiiriSTUPid GATs02:40
eirhhey grown up jerk off!02:40
cthulfuegoiamnow: Evolution has calendaring capabilities.02:40
microhaxowtf02:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYhe gives linux a bad vibe02:40
microhaxo?02:40
Nannohiiri.j #8924894984302:40
eirh=D xD =D xD= DXD= DxD02:40
Nannohiiri.j #8924894984302:40
eirh=Dx D =)D XD02:40
Nannohiiri.j #8924894984302:40
eirh=D:P02:40
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eirh=DXD02:40
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eirhx02:40
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iamnowcthulfuego: ok ill look thanks02:40
Nannohiiri#8924894984302:40
eirhi am linuxguru02:40
Nannohiiri#8924894984302:40
eirhask meanything02:40
Nannohiiri#8924894984302:40
eirhi will tell you02:40
Nannohiirij #8924894984302:40
eirhi am linux pro02:40
Nannohiirij #8924894984302:40
Nard When i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up02:40
Nannohiirii am linuxgayry02:40
eirhproer than any of you02:40
eirhhahahahaha!02:40
eirhyou stupid noobs!02:40
vHintswenSilicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  5597/5598/6326 VGA (rev 68)02:40
eirhhahahahahaha02:40
Nannohiirihahaha lol02:40
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eirhim gonna pwn you with my linux knowledge02:40
eirhhahahahahahahha!!!02:40
eirhHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA02:40
eirhHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA02:40
eirhHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA02:40
cthulfuegobob2/Amaranth/any ops: it's weekend, thus there are teenage trolls. Can you kindly squish them?02:40
eirhHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA02:40
eirhHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA02:40
eirhHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA02:40
eirhHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA02:40
eirhHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA02:40
eirhHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA02:41
NannohiiriHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA02:41
eirhHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA02:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes please02:41
microhaxowhat was that gunzip command>?02:41
eirhHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA02:41
eirhHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA02:41
NannohiiriHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA02:41
eirhHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA02:41
NannohiiriHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA02:41
Nard When i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up and i have never gotten a avi fiel to play before either02:41
eirhHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA02:41
NannohiiriHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA02:41
thenukeircops?02:41
eirhHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA02:41
eirhHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA02:41
NannohiiriHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA02:41
eirhHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA02:41
unrealerr, that's constructive isn't it02:41
eirhHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA02:41
eirhHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA02:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYgotta love morons02:41
vHintswenSilicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  5597/5598/6326 VGA (rev 68)02:41
kong0right click eirh and choose kill this dude02:41
likkashotfuck and I came here for help02:41
thenukebtw, is there a channel for freenode ircops?02:41
cthulfuegoChurcH_of_FoamY: if you don't feed them, they'll get bored and leave.02:41
hondjethenuke: #freenode02:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok i get it lol02:41
UdontKnowthenuke: yes02:41
thenukehondje: ok, thanks02:41
Nard When i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up and i have never gotten a avi fiel to play before either02:41
UdontKnowhondje: I am here02:41
kong0who needed to know how u saw how much mb u had on your video card?02:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYthanx for the tip ^_^02:41
cthulfuegoChurcH_of_FoamY: '/ignore <kids>' works fine.02:42
naliothhaha excess flood02:42
hondjeThe power of Freenode :O02:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok02:42
LinuxJonesthis channel needs ops around this is bs02:42
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unrealheh02:42
naliothLinuxJones: yes i agree02:42
Nardso is everyon done flooding and all02:42
hondjeOp me....02:42
Nardso they can help me02:42
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kong0nobody needed to know that?02:42
UdontKnowunreal: oi02:42
Nard When i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up and i have never gotten a avi fiel to play before either02:43
unrealUdontKnow: hmm?02:43
LinuxJonesnalioth, there are about 100 regulars who are here all the time, give some of permissions to kick those trolls :D02:43
UdontKnowunreal: oi means hello02:43
unrealheh02:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat would be nice ^_^02:43
microhaxoguys i have a debian file, how do i install it?02:43
unrealUdontKnow: I noticed lilo removed me from the #freenode autovoice list again, for no reason at all (i've been idle for the last 5 months :P)02:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYsudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb02:44
microhaxok02:44
naliothLinuxJones: i agree02:44
likkashotI need to install a driver but it need the kernel headers , i thought I have them but it doesnt work anything I could do to have it02:44
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Nard When i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up and i have never gotten a avi fiel to play before either02:44
uyualguno me ayuda02:44
cthulfuego!es02:44
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:44
naliothNard: hold up!02:44
likkashothabla frances02:44
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unrealwould anyone here have a clue why my USB keyboard works, and the USB mouse doesn't? or maybe the mouse doesn't work at all in pure-console mode02:45
naliothNard: if someone knwos the answer to your question, they will speak up02:45
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microhaxohow do you install software thats i386 for a amd64 machine?02:45
Nardok02:45
naliothNard: give the same queston a rest for a few minutes02:45
likkashotI need to install a driver but it need the kernel headers , i thought I have them but it doesnt work anything I could do to have it02:45
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ChurcH_of_FoamYbrb smoke brake02:45
Jimboblikkashot: open a terminal and type "uname  -a" then paste the result02:45
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LinuxJonesChurcH_of_FoamY, good idea02:45
kong0how do you change to afk?02:45
likkashotLinux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic02:45
naliothkong0: you get out of your chair and walk away02:46
Nardhaha02:46
vHintswenlol02:46
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vHintswenthere's no "afk" on IRC02:46
vHintswentry: /nick kong0|AFK02:46
eb0xHow do I change the way my terminal outputs02:46
eb0xFor example02:46
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kong0|afkfett02:46
eyequeuesheesh no, set an away status rather than annoying nickchanges02:47
kong0|afkoh sry02:47
eb0xI saw someone had this: wcampbel@botbay (rsa_respond): blah blah02:47
eb0xbut i have eb0x@ubuntu:~ $02:47
eb0xHow do I change it?02:47
cthulfuegokong0|afk: Try just not typing, as opposed to changing the nickl or using an /away spam. People can see you've been idle via /whois anyway.02:47
Jimboblikkashot: Ok, run sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic02:47
kong0|afkman im so used to writing in my own language...02:47
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unrealwould anyone here have a clue why my USB keyboard works, and the USB mouse doesn't?02:47
MidnightDevilheya02:47
microhaxoguys02:48
MidnightDevili have a question about apache02:48
cthulfuegoeb0x: man bash; seatch for 'PS1'02:48
microhaxoi have point2play02:48
microhaxoand it wont install!02:48
MidnightDevilit hangs when i try to start it02:48
eyequeuekong0|afk:  alt-a in that client02:48
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thenukeunreal: did you have ps/2 mouse before that USB-mouse?02:48
kong0well im off for awhile then02:48
unrealnope02:48
eb0xcthulfuego: Thank you :)02:48
likkashotnstall linux-headers-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic02:48
likkashotReading package lists... Done02:48
likkashotBuilding dependency tree... Done02:48
likkashotlinux-headers-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic is already the newest version.02:48
likkashot0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.02:48
MidnightDevilthe question is - how do i completly remove it from my system ? cleaning all the crap02:48
unrealit's a wireless keyboard and mouse that use the same USB receiver02:48
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unrealthe keyboard works, but the mouse doesn't, which is weird02:48
eyequeueMidnightDevil:  sudo dpkg --purge apache202:48
unreal(and no the batteries haven't ran out :P)02:49
kong0no wait..02:49
kong0I actually had a question..02:49
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep apache | xargs apt-get remove --purge02:49
Jimboblikkashot: Could you paste the output of your driver build to #flood?02:49
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kong0as im new here i dont know how to install zip files...02:49
kong0should i extract and then do what?02:49
likkashotok02:49
eyequeuekong0:  uncompress?  unzip foo.zip02:50
naliothkong0: extract adn read the README02:50
MidnightDevileyequeue it still lefts a apache2 at init.d02:50
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kong0hate read me's02:50
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Nardcan i ask my question again yet nalioth02:50
vHintswenthen read it :P02:50
Razor-Xnalioth: http://www.kainx.org/journal/?view=2002020202:50
MidnightDevilcthulfuego E: Couldn't find package ii02:50
eyequeueMidnightDevil:  sudo dpkg --purge apache2 would remove /etc/init.d/apache202:50
kong0yeah alright02:50
unrealthenuke: have any idea?02:50
cthulfuegokong0: Well, that's what you get when you install 3rd party software.02:50
Razor-Xthere's eterm's coder bitching up a storm02:50
kong0hehe02:50
MidnightDevildpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove apache2 which isn't installed.02:50
MidnightDevildpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove would which isn't installed.02:50
MidnightDevildpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove remove which isn't installed.02:50
MidnightDevildpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove /etc/init.d/apache2 which isn't installed.02:50
Razor-Xbut I think he has every right, IMO02:50
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: oops!02:50
kong0life's a bitch02:50
MidnightDevilups, sorry :/ but it still there.02:50
kong0cya then02:51
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Nard When i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up and i have never gotten a avi fiel to play before either02:51
eyequeueMidnightDevil:  sudo dpkg --purge apache2 would remove /etc/init.d/apache2 <-- that is a sentence02:51
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep apache | awk '{ print $2 }' | xargs apt-get remove --purge02:51
eyequeueMidnightDevil:  sudo dpkg --purge apache2 <-- that is a command02:52
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: You can also replace 'apt-get remove --purge' with 'dpkg -P'02:52
eyequeueMidnightDevil:  but apache2 is already gone02:52
cthulfuegoeyequeue: it'02:52
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cthulfuegos probably in 'rc' status, meaning the config files are still there (including init)02:53
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eyequeuecthulfuego:  not after a dpkg --purge02:53
MidnightDevileyequeue it still hanging when something tries to run it, even if its to stop the service02:53
MidnightDevilcthulfuego it hangs when trying to stop apache202:53
cthulfuegoeyequeue: Has he run that yet?02:53
MidnightDevilif i dont ctrl + c the stopping process takes the whole mem02:53
MidnightDevilenough to knoc down X02:53
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eyequeuecthulfuego:  he even ran "sudo dpkg --purge apache2 would remove /etc/init.d/apache2" heh02:54
MidnightDevilroot 8539 99.5 21.7 92116 87652 pts/0 R+ 01:36 1:36 apache2 -t02:54
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: edit /etc/init.d/apache2 and make the second line read 'ext 0' without quotes. Then try dpkg --purge apache2 again.02:54
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: sorry, 'exit 0' not 'ext 0'02:54
virguleJust a few words to let the world know what's my opinion about Ubuntu Hoary--> YEEEAAH!!!! finally a distro that work the right way: fast, clean, easy-enough, well maintained and all the rest <-- ::cheese::02:54
eyequeues/ext/exit/02:54
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MidnightDevilokay02:55
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: That will make the stop command exit immediately and force dpkg to remove it.02:56
MidnightDevildpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove apache2 which isn't installed.02:57
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: Then /etc/init.d/apache2 should not exist anymore.02:57
MidnightDevilits there02:57
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cthulfuego!find /etc/init.d/apache202:58
MidnightDevilu thing that something else other then apache itself is doing it02:58
MidnightDevilroot@devil:/etc/init.d # find /etc/init.d/apache202:58
MidnightDevil/etc/init.d/apache202:58
myssHello, I am new to linux. Where can I write my personal startup scripts?02:58
Spugin a text editor02:58
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: That was a bot command, not one for you ;-)02:59
MidnightDevilor vi! :)02:59
myss:) thanks02:59
billytwowillylol. I upgraded firefox and now I can get to https://www.webmail.shaw.ca because firefox says it doesn't have any common encryption protocols with that url.02:59
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of '/etc/init.d/apache2' returned no results.02:59
MidnightDevilcthulfuego lol, well worked either way :P02:59
SpugMidnightDevil: vi is a text editor :(02:59
eyequeuemyss:  stsem > preferences > session02:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYback02:59
mysswhicj file should I open with that text editor?02:59
MidnightDeviland isnt it nice ?02:59
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: Are there any other apache packages installed?02:59
myssok02:59
SpugMidnightDevil: yes!02:59
waterbeetleanyone know how to run a jnpl file in firefox?02:59
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: apache2-common maybe?02:59
eyequeuemyss:  system > preferences > session02:59
MidnightDevilcthulfuego i had apache and apache2, but apache is gone02:59
SpugMidnightDevil: although i prefer vim ;)02:59
kong0lol i was trying to watch an .avi movie and all i got was sound (pretty nice) and some laggy bubbles (supposedly som screen saver in the player) i used totem, tried to that same file with mplayer and nothing happened...except now i cant turn mplayer off....what should i do?03:00
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: apache2-mpm-prefork maybe?03:00
MidnightDevilanyway to apache* ?03:00
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: dpkg -l | grep apache03:00
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: ANything with sttaus 'ii' or 'rc' still has files on the system.03:00
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhmm03:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYsomehow i installed mozilla stuff i'm not gonna use :(03:01
unrealwould anyone here have a clue why my USB keyboard works, and the USB mouse doesn't?03:01
unrealit's a wireless keyboard and mouse that use the same USB receiver03:01
MidnightDevilwhere can o copy past 4 lines?03:01
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: Just paste *only* the package names.03:01
kong0ok i wrote something really long and big and everybody just ignores it...03:02
MidnightDevilapache2-common03:02
MidnightDevilapache-mpm-wo03:02
MidnightDevilapache2-utils03:02
MidnightDevilwhen i try to remove apache2-common i get:03:02
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: Remove apache2-mpm-worker first03:02
kong0im just going to have to watch the movie on my WINDOWS (holywater against linux geeks)03:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYhey holy water don't work on us03:03
kong0holy **** nobody reacted on that...03:03
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vHintswenyewah... WINDOWS works LINUX doesn't03:03
vHintswenyeah*03:03
concept10stop trying to stir up the zealots03:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYpats out falms from holy water03:03
eyequeuebah03:03
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cthulfuegoAre those trolls still here?03:03
MidnightDevilcthulfuego i got a /etc/init.d/apache2: line 2: ext: command not found03:03
DanielCkong0:  :-)03:03
concept10kong0, whats your problem?03:03
MidnightDevilinvoke-rc.d: initscript apache2, action "stop" failed.03:03
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: 'exit ' not 'ext'03:03
MidnightDevilsubprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 12703:03
MidnightDeviloh ok cthulfuego03:03
MidnightDevilsorry didint got that :)03:04
DanielCkong0:  I wish I could help you. I don't know how to play .avi files on Ubuntu.03:04
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DanielCconcept10: kong0 is asking about playing .avi files. He's only getting sound on totem.03:04
concept10DanielC, kong0 - install gxine and w32 codecs and totem-xine03:04
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concept10kong0, do you have win32 codecs?03:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYwww.illwillpress.com new foamy cartoon ^_^03:05
MidnightDevilnow when i try list the apache packages i get this03:05
MidnightDevilroot@devil:/etc/init.d # dpkg -l | grep apache03:05
MidnightDevilrc apache2-common 2.0.54-403:05
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concept10kong0, the default totem uses gstreamer, doesnt work on system either, install totem-xine instead03:05
MidnightDevilbut when i try to remove it i get Package apache2-common is not installed, so not removed03:05
litheumi have seen ** (gnome-cups-icon:12721): WARNING **: failed request with status 1030 about six million times03:05
concept10kong0, open up synaptic03:06
DanielCconcept10:  Is gxine and totem-xine on the archives? Where would I find the w32 codecs? I do have access to a Windows system (though I don't really use it).03:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmm weard no sound >.<03:07
concept10DanielC, kong0 - open up synaptic I will tell you what to get03:07
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kong0open03:07
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: yes, run 'dpkg -P apache2-common'03:07
concept10kong0, type totem in search03:07
MidnightDevilcthulfuego anyway to run that command leaving /var/www/ alone?03:07
MidnightDevil:)03:07
kong0ok03:07
concept10kong0, do you have totem-gstreamer installed????03:07
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: copy /var/www to elsewhere, then run it,.03:08
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kong0not anymore...now i got xine03:08
DanielCconcept10: I'm following your instructions. I see totem-xine. I have totem-gstreamer installed but not totem-xine.03:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmm no sound in mozilla any ideas guys?03:08
kong0i have only xine i think i replaced it with the terminal install of xine03:08
MidnightDevilyay!03:09
MidnightDevilremoved03:09
MidnightDevil.D03:09
concept10DanielC, kong0 - mark totem-xine for installation it should uninstall totem-gstreamer03:09
kong0ok done03:09
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DanielCconcept10: yup. done.03:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYdamnit first time i've had this problem03:09
concept10kong0, also install w32 codecs (type in search box)03:09
j_Anybody have working a SBLIve with MIDI?03:10
concept10search 'w32'03:10
kong0already have that one03:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYok i have sound in ubuntu but when i try to play a cartoon03:10
concept10okay, apply and then try to play avis and let me know03:10
DanielCconcept10: I see mingw32, no codecs.03:10
MidnightDevilcthulfuego seems to be removed now. to install it again, apt-get install apache2 ?03:10
kong0but that requires some silvebelll wometing03:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYi have no sound in the cartoon any ideas?03:11
BROKEN_LADDERwhy can't i kill this process?03:11
kong0search w32codec03:11
kong0i foun03:11
BROKEN_LADDER1000      6176  0.1  1.0  16328 10248 pts/0    D    18:07   0:00 thoggen03:11
kong0d03:11
concept10DanielC, you might need to update your repositories - did you try to search for w32?03:11
BROKEN_LADDERkill -9 6176 isn't working.03:11
j_Anybody have working a SBLIve with MIDI?03:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYkong0 me?03:11
DanielCconcept10: yes.03:11
kong0church no not u :P03:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok lol03:11
concept10DanielC, you might need to add repos03:11
kong0linux is more user friendly than i thought it would be...03:12
concept10DanielC, have you added repos from the ubuntuguide?03:12
likkashotnotI03:12
DanielCconcept10: I have not.03:12
BROKEN_LADDERhow can i kill a process?03:12
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DanielCconcept10: I guess I'll go to ubuntuguide.org and read up on this.03:12
concept10DanielC, thats why you dont see them03:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYdamnit i can't get sound with my toons >.<03:13
waterbeetleany help with jnlp ?03:13
concept10BROKEN_LADDER, kill <process number>03:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYthey play but no sound03:13
DanielCconcept10: Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I'll go read.03:13
concept10DanielC, np03:13
BROKEN_LADDERconcept10 i'm doing that.  not working.03:13
kong0GOD DAMN THIS IS COOOL!!! it works...thx concept1003:13
kong0i love linux03:13
DanielC:-)03:13
BROKEN_LADDER1000      6160 14.0  4.2  67872 42980 pts/0    D+   17:55   2:33 thoggen03:14
likkashotI love linux when it works fine03:14
kong0daniel it is easy03:14
DanielCI love Deiban derivatives.03:14
likkashot:(03:14
concept10BROKEN_LADDER, it may have more than one process03:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone have any idea why i can't play sound in my cartoons?03:14
BROKEN_LADDERkill -9 616003:14
BROKEN_LADDERthat same process is still in ps03:14
likkashotfor 3 days now I cant fix shit03:14
likkashotsorry03:14
MidnightDevilcthulfuego seems to be removed now. to install it again, apt-get install apache2 ?03:14
BROKEN_LADDERconcept10 i keep killing that process but it still shows up.03:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYit flash player 7 i'm using03:14
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: yep03:14
kong0just open the terminal wich is located in applications - system - terminal03:14
BROKEN_LADDERconcept10 i did 'killall thoggen' and it's still in there.03:14
waterbeetlejavaws or jnlp in firefox?  help?03:14
concept10BROKEN_LADDER, what are you trying to kill?03:14
BROKEN_LADDERthoggen03:15
kong0and write following: sudo apt-get install totem xine03:15
MidnightDevilok :)03:15
concept10ps aux | grep thoggen03:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYam i doing something wrong?03:15
BROKEN_LADDERi did that.03:15
concept10BROKEN_LADDER, how many processes show up?03:15
cthulfuegoChurcH_of_FoamY: Yes, you're using flash.03:15
BROKEN_LADDER1000      6160 12.7  4.2  67872 42980 pts/0    D+   17:55   2:33 thoggen03:15
BROKEN_LADDER1000      6176  0.0  1.0  16328 10248 pts/0    D    18:07   0:00 thoggen03:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh is there something else i should be using to play it then?03:16
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MidnightDevilcthulfuego it seems to be behaving the same way it was before, when i try to start the service, it hangs, nothing happens, i have to ctrl + c to continue, and meanwhile it takes the whole mem!03:16
concept10kill 6160 && kill 617603:16
cthulfuegoChurcH_of_FoamY: No, it's just that flash is broken at the best of time.03:16
BROKEN_LADDERdoesn't work.03:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYdamnit03:16
BROKEN_LADDERstill there in ps aux03:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat bites a$$03:16
concept10BROKEN_LADDER, what is thoggen?03:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhen will they fix it?03:16
RastaMahatakillall -9 thoggen03:17
BROKEN_LADDERconcept10 a dvd ripping and encoding app that uses ogg theora.=03:17
cthulfuegoChurcH_of_FoamY: dpkg-reconfigure -plow mozilla-firefox and see if it asks the sound wrapper question again.03:17
BROKEN_LADDERRastaMahata  doesn't work.03:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYdo i have to sudo that?03:17
cthulfuegoChurcH_of_FoamY: Macromedia needs to open he flash player for it to be fixed, and that's not going to happen.03:17
cthulfuegoChurcH_of_FoamY: yes03:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYok thanx03:17
cthulfuegoThe stupid thing *only* works on Linux x86.03:17
kong0where can i get jawa to linux?03:18
concept10BROKEN_LADDER, oh well - sometimes when that happens to me, i log off and I log back on and check again03:18
BROKEN_LADDERsweet jesus.03:18
MidnightDevilcthulfuego it seems to be behaving the same way it was before, when i try to start the service, it hangs, nothing happens, i have to ctrl + c to continue, and meanwhile it takes the whole mem!03:18
RastaMahataI hate java :@03:18
kong0would really like to have it since i want to have azerues03:18
cthulfuegokong0: Go to java.sun.com and doenload the jre 1.5 .bin file (NOT the .rpm.bin)03:18
kong0how do i install that?03:18
concept10kong0, have you read the ubuntuguide.org?03:18
kong0no way man03:19
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: Dunno then. ANything in bug reports on ubuntuforums?03:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYdamnit no it dosent03:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYit just updated the regestry03:19
kong0im a practical man learn by do....03:19
RastaMahatai hate java, tomcat, jsp, servlets and beans... and the model 2 web applications! :@03:19
kong0i cant read myself to wisdom03:19
cthulfuegokong0: You don't install the bin. You convert it using the 'make-jpkg' command.03:19
kong0ahh man lame03:19
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kong0then what?03:19
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ChurcH_of_FoamYuggh no faomy sounds :(03:19
cthulfuegokong0: Then you end up with a .deb file.03:19
cthulfuego!java03:20
uboturumour has it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java03:20
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kong0wich i do what with?03:20
cthulfuegoRead the page.03:20
RastaMahatai installed it form backports, but I think backports are hated here.. I love them...03:20
lsuactiafnerBROKEN_LADDER : put your caps lock off please03:20
concept10kong0, some things are practical some things are just quicker, you wont learn linux in a weekend!03:20
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cthulfuegoRastaMahata: Backports *can* break upgrades.03:20
RastaMahatasee? :P03:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYughhh macromedia sucks03:20
cthulfuegoRastaMahata: Your english sucks.03:21
kong0I tried reading the install read me for mplayer and that went straight to hell....03:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYcan something else play flash thats not flash player?03:21
cthulfuegoChurcH_of_FoamY: Quicktime on Mac/Windoze03:21
kong0why wont u use flashplayer?03:21
RastaMahatacthulfuego, Thats because I speak spanish, no english.03:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYcause theres no sound03:21
ChurcH_of_FoamY:(03:21
RastaMahatanot*03:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYso i was thinking there might be an alternative03:21
lsuactiafnerChurcH_of_FoamY : mplayer has limited support03:22
concept10kong0, its better to stick with apps in the repos03:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmmm how to get03:22
cthulfuegoRastaMahata: One person saying something has the possibility of breaking something else is not the same as an entire channel hating it.03:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYapt-get?03:22
kong0uhhhh english?03:22
kong0stick with programs in what?03:22
kong0repos?03:22
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waterbeetleI used backports too.  for j2re 1.5, how can I run a jnlp file?  It should run in firefox, but it wont work03:23
zeverkong0 repos=repositories03:23
kong0ok i got repos better than the other03:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYhows the mplayer 686 package run?03:23
zeverkong0 what other03:23
concept10anyone use streamtuner / streamripper?03:24
kong0not at all for me...byt hey..im a noob03:24
kong0haha just a joke no bother03:24
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vinuxconcept10, I use streamtuner03:24
kong0zever i still have no clue what repos mean03:24
kong0:D03:24
concept10i wonder how to stop streamripper without closing the terminal03:24
BROKEN_LADDERHI..I'M in linux, and i just had to reboot my computer to stop two processes.03:24
Razor-Xanyone here use eterm?03:24
RastaMahatacthulfuego, I'm not here to fight... Backports is one of the many solutions an user has to easilly install Java.03:25
cthulfuegokong0: Have you looked at the wiki pages for java yet?03:25
Razor-XBROKEN_LADDER: why?03:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYrepos are a place where all the goodies for ubuntu are stored03:25
kong0hmm is it a folder?03:25
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ChurcH_of_FoamYno some where on the net03:25
cthulfuegoRastaMahata: Indeed. I just note that when that uses wants to upgrade to a newer ubuntu/distro release the backport _can_ interfere.03:25
waterbeetleRastaMahata: do you know how to run a jnlp file in firefox?03:25
concept10kong0, a repo (repository) is a server with all of the pre-compiled .debs03:26
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kbrooksummm.03:26
damjanhi all..  I want to install mp3 and divx support in my hoary butI can't find what's the repository that has those03:26
MidnightDevilcthulfuego i cant pvt u can i ?03:26
MidnightDevil:/03:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYarggh i can't watch foamy >.<03:26
cthulfuego!restricted03:26
ubotumethinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:26
lsuactiafnerBROKEN_LADDER : 1. you never reboot in linux, 2. kill -9 pid kills shit.03:26
cthulfuegodamjan: See the restricted url.03:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm gonna wright a nasty letter to the makers of flash03:26
kbrookscan i EASILY make a debian package?03:26
BROKEN_LADDERlsuactiafner no it didn't in my case.03:26
lsuactiafnerBROKEN_LADDER " <concept10> kill 6160 && kill 617603:26
BROKEN_LADDERlsuactiafner  it did not work03:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYtell them to get off there butts and fix it03:27
RastaMahatawaterbeetle, when firefox asks you "what to do", you select the "open with..." option, then from the list select "another one", then browse to "/usr/bin/javaws"03:27
cthulfuegoMidnightDevil: yes, but it will get ignored.03:27
BROKEN_LADDERlsuactiafner I did it about 20 times.  i even tried sudo before it.03:27
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lsuactiafnerBROKEN_LADDER : linux doesnt continue with pids once you kill -903:27
BROKEN_LADDERlsuactiafner i've used linux off and on for a few years and i've never seen this behavior before.03:27
Razor-XBROKEN_LADDER: what does it say?03:27
BROKEN_LADDERlsuactiafner they still showed up in ps aux.03:27
lsuactiafneryou didnt use kill -9 now did you:? only kill.03:27
waterbeetleRastaMahata: where can I get javaws?  I don't have that03:27
BROKEN_LADDERlsuactiafner i used kill -9.03:27
kbrookscan i EASILY make a debian package?03:27
MidnightDevilcthulfuego wonder if u ssh could have a closer idea of what seems to be restricting apache to run and crash the whole machine03:28
RastaMahatawaterbeetle, do you have backports?03:28
waterbeetleyes03:28
lsuactiafnerBROKEN_LADDER : chances of it happenin is 0.01%03:28
waterbeetleRastamahata: I searched for that, yes I do have backports, couldn't find it03:28
lsuactiafnerbut i dont care. i'm goint to sleep03:28
lsuactiafnerSun Jun 19 03:29:07 SAST 200503:28
BROKEN_LADDERlsuactiafner perhaps you'd like a paste of my terminal history.03:28
RastaMahatawaterbeetle, sudo apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.503:28
bl4cktoneanyone know how a n00b would begin installing enlightenment03:28
lsuactiafnerno i dont.03:28
waterbeetleRastaMahata: thanks!03:29
BROKEN_LADDER  483  ps aux | grep thoggen03:29
BROKEN_LADDER  484  kill -9 6160 617603:29
BROKEN_LADDER  485  ps aux | grep thoggen03:29
BROKEN_LADDER  486  kill 6160 && kill 617603:29
BROKEN_LADDER  487  ps aux | grep thoggen03:29
BROKEN_LADDER  488  sudo kill 6160 ; sudo kill 617603:29
lsuactiafnergoodnight.03:29
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BROKEN_LADDER  489  ps aux | grep thoggen03:29
BROKEN_LADDER  490  killall -9 thoggen03:29
BROKEN_LADDER  491  ps aux | grep thoggen03:29
BROKEN_LADDER  492  sudo killall -9 thoggen03:29
lsuactiafneri said NOOOOO03:29
BROKEN_LADDER  493  ps aux | grep thoggen03:29
BROKEN_LADDER  494  mount03:29
kbrooksBROKEN_LADDER, NO FLOODING03:29
BROKEN_LADDER  495  thoggen03:29
lsuactiafnerargh03:29
BROKEN_LADDER  496  ps aux | grep thoggen03:29
BROKEN_LADDER  497  sudo killall -9 thoggen03:29
BROKEN_LADDERlsuactiafner then stfu.03:29
ThE__OnEpastebin03:29
RastaMahatawaterbeetle, after it's installed, follow the instrctions I told you before to open Java Web Start03:29
lsuactiafnerBROKEN_LADDER : dont paste here03:29
RastaMahata+files03:29
BROKEN_LADDERlsuactiafner looks like a used kill -9, eh moron?03:29
kbrooksBROKEN_LADDER, BE NICE!!!!03:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYum spam makes the internet sad :(03:30
ThE__OnEbronson, maybe next time you can try pastebin?03:30
waterbeetleRastaMahata: cool, gotit03:30
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ThE__OnEbroken, maybe next time you can try pastebin?03:30
lsuactiafnerBROKEN_LADDER : behave.03:30
BROKEN_LADDERlsuactiafner don't be a jerk.03:30
kbrooksBROKEN_LADDER, you besta listen to lsuactiafner03:30
lsuactiafnerand dont expect me to help you ever again03:30
kbrooksBROKEN_LADDER, BEHAVE!03:30
Razor-XBROKEN_LADDER: we're a community channel, we aren't payed to help03:30
^thehatsrule^BROKEN_LADDER: look at the rules :/03:30
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BROKEN_LADDERyou're also not paid to insult my intelligence, or assume i didn't do something the way i was told.03:30
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lsuactiafnerits 0330 here and i'm helpin you so dont bash me.03:30
ThE__OnEyes, please behave, these guys can help, heck they even helped me with some of the common sence Q03:31
kbrooksBROKEN_LADDER, LEAVE NOW!!!!!03:31
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Razor-XBROKEN_LADDER: there are a lot of things people don't do, I'm pretty sure many people here are more experienced with Linux than you are03:31
lsuactiafnerBROKEN_LADDER : according to my log kill -9 wasnt mentioned but next time i see you needin help i wont give a damn03:31
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DanielCconcept10: Do you know which hoary repository has the w32 codecs? Is it restricted? multiverse?03:31
^thehatsrule^i think its multiverse03:32
kbrooksBROKEN_LADDER, if u arent gonna leave, you should get a LIFE and STOP ACTING LIKE A JERK.03:32
DanielCthanks03:32
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kbrooksBROKEN_LADDER, you seem to have a broken backbone. you seem to be tired03:32
RastaMahataI HATE SERVLETS03:32
damjancthulfuego: yes I've read that, and I added that repository to apt-get but it still cant find liblame003:33
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BROKEN_LADDERi wasn't being a jerk.03:33
BROKEN_LADDERhe was.03:33
kbrooksBROKEN_LADDER, also, you seem to act like a 2 year old03:33
BROKEN_LADDERno he did.03:33
kbrooksBROKEN_LADDER, GET OUT!03:33
BROKEN_LADDERi was politely asking for help.03:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYno yu where spamming03:33
bl4cktonecome on guys03:33
ninwaIn Mplayer is there anyway to stretch a video a larger resultion (despite video quality), it seems to want to play it at its native resolution, resizing the window only increases the border size.03:33
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BROKEN_LADDERfine.  maybe with time, you'll calm down and see that i'm right.03:34
kbrooksBROKEN_LADDER, either i'm serious or i'm not, and i'm SERIOUS this time!03:34
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RastaMahataninwa, in properties, select a different video filter03:34
kbrooksgrrrr03:34
kbrooksthat asshole03:34
lsuactiafnerninwa : combination of -zoom -fs -xy 2 or -x 2 effect03:34
iamnowis there a gnome calendar? whats the best calendar for organizing us deadbeats03:35
lsuactiafnerninwa : i use -force-avi-aspect when i rip to get a dvd aspect on it03:35
anto9usiamnow: have you tried evolution?03:35
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kbrooksok03:37
truz24Is there a guide on upgrading to a kernel on Kernel.org ?03:38
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truz24in ubuntu ?03:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYi found out yesterday how easy it is to convert a die-hard windows fan to linux03:38
MidnightDevilany alternative to apache that supports php ?03:38
MidnightDevil:/03:38
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ChurcH_of_FoamYshow em a copy of ubuntu ^_^03:39
ninwa-zoom did the trick, thanks03:39
LinuxJonestruz24, you should stick with the Ubuntu kernel03:39
truz24LinuxJones, I would for production, but I just wanted to test it out and etc.  But I guess there are ubuntu specific patches needed ?03:40
kbrooksMidnightDevil, hmmm03:40
lsuactiafnerChurcH_of_FoamY : make them run IE, thats enough to make me scream and have nightmares03:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYi hate ie03:40
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clockradiokurthey03:40
lsuactiafneryeh cant use it03:40
clockradiokurti need some help03:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYactually i hate windoes now03:40
clockradiokurtwhen i try to install ubuntu03:40
MidnightDevilkbrooks ?03:40
LinuxJonestruz24, yes exactly :)03:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat it fried my vid card03:40
clockradiokurti get an error03:40
kbrooksChurcH_of_FoamY, why do u hate wnblows03:40
kbrookswin*03:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYit freid my vid card03:40
kbrooksu sure?03:41
clockradiokurtcan someone help me install warty warthog?03:41
kbrooks100% sure?03:41
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ChurcH_of_FoamYoh yea chips that are supposed to be black are white and flaky03:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYeven the gpu03:41
cthulfuego!kpkg is make-kpkg clean; make-kpkg --revision $(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot clean; make-kpkg --revision $(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image;03:41
ubotuokay, cthulfuego03:41
clockradiokurtcan someone help me?03:41
LinuxJonestruz24, this is a server you want to run ?03:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhith what?03:42
kbrooksclockradiokurt, install hoary instead.....but you can upgrade03:42
clockradiokurtwho knows a lot about ubuntu install03:42
clockradiokurtwell03:42
anto9usMidnightDevil: Zope has a PHP parser03:42
Wimpieneeds some help.  Have installed first ubunt THEN xp.  Need to get XP to dual boot.  How ?03:42
clockradiokurti cant get the iso to burn right03:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat are you using?03:42
cthulfuegotruz24: Fetch a tarball from kernel.org. Unpack it. Cd to the source dir, run the full command I just added to uboto03:42
clockradiokurtbut i have a warty cd on hand03:42
clockradiokurtnero03:42
lsuactiafnerwindows doesnt allow me to make it run like i want it to run, its unpredictable inconsisntant..03:42
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superbothello, I am dumb, but feel free to speak to me!03:42
clockradiokurtokay03:42
superbothello, I am dumb, but feel free to speak to me!03:42
kbrooksWimpie, uhh....not swure, but you could reinstall grub03:42
superbothello, I am dumb, but feel free to speak to me!03:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYi have had great sucsess with that prog03:42
superbothello, I am dumb, but feel free to speak to me!03:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat version03:42
superbothello, I am dumb, but feel free to speak to me!03:42
kbrookssuperbot, get out03:42
clockradiokurtlet me tell you what my problem is with both warty and hog03:42
waterbeetlethere is a channel for bots03:42
kbrookssuperbot, part03:42
waterbeetlenot here03:42
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clockradiokurtwhen i install both03:43
kbrookslol03:43
clockradiokurti get the same error03:43
lsuactiafnerWimpie : boot from cdrom and someone else how to get your boot record fixed from there03:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYtry cleaning out your cd rom03:43
clockradiokurtnot enough space on /var/log/syslog03:43
clockradiokurtor i mean03:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYif the lens is dirty you will get errors03:43
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi use a cd lens cleaner after every ten hours of use03:43
clockradiokurtreally03:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYbefore that ubuntu woulden't burn right03:44
clockradiokurtwill that make the difference?03:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea03:44
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clockradiokurtwell03:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYit will03:44
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clockradiokurti have the cds03:44
clockradiokurtthat work03:44
clockradiokurtbut03:44
clockradiokurtwhen i install03:44
clockradiokurtis the problem03:44
lsuactiafnermd5sums rock..03:44
WimpieCan I use the standard installation CD ? How do I avoid a reinstall ?03:44
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clockradiokurtlike i start installing03:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYcould be that the lens is dirty03:44
clockradiokurtand i get the base installation fine03:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYand it's not receving the lazer right03:44
lsuactiafnerWimpie : yeh, but ask someone else to guide you, but the method to fix is to just reinstall grub or lilo..03:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYbecuase of dust particles03:44
clockradiokurtbut the same error on two different cd's?03:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's possible i have seen stranger shit with win03:45
clockradiokurtwell03:45
clockradiokurtlet me tell you what happens03:45
clockradiokurtand then decide03:45
lsuactiafneri dont know the boot prompts by heart03:45
clockradiokurtokay03:45
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi almost got rid of the cd rom before i figured out the lens was dirty03:45
clockradiokurtwell i get this error03:45
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ChurcH_of_FoamYit's a 250 dollar superdrive03:45
clockradiokurt"not enough space on /var filesystem.03:46
clockradiokurt"03:46
clockradiokurtthen03:46
ZoomZoomhello guys03:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYare you trying to burn to dvd?03:46
lsuactiafneri think he's disk is full...03:46
ZoomZoomI just installed ubuntu but...03:46
cthulfuegoclockradiokurt: run 'sudo apt-get clean'03:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYcould be03:46
lsuactiafnerand make him do an md5checksum on the iso03:46
ZoomZoomI keep getting an video error03:46
litheumi'm getting tons of errors regarding locales on my new 5.04 install. is this a known problem that there's an easy fix for?03:46
clockradiokurtthen i get "check /car/log/syslog or virtual console 403:46
clockradiokurt"03:46
ZoomZoomI think that ubuntu does not like ati03:46
ZoomZoomI have a radeon x100 pro03:47
clockradiokurtgot any solutions?03:47
ZoomZoomscratch that03:47
cthulfuegoZoomZoom: Nothing likes new ATI cards, except Windows.03:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYi used an invida with no problem03:47
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ZoomZoomx7xx pro03:47
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clockradiokurt??03:47
stuNNedis there way to build a .deb from alsa-driver?03:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYuntill winsux fried it03:47
cthulfuego!fglrx03:47
ubotucthulfuego: I give up, what is it?03:47
ZoomZoomx700 pro03:47
ZoomZoomsorry03:47
kbrookswhoa03:47
kbrooksthe google cache is useful03:47
clockradiokurti cant run "sudo=apt-get clean03:47
ZoomZoomany suggestions?03:47
novaflarehow did windows fry a vid card?03:47
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ChurcH_of_FoamYyea uncle google rocks03:48
clockradiokurtbecause i cant get it to install03:48
anto9uskbrooks: very :)03:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's very hardware intensive03:48
kbrookshttp://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:ejDBxnYRDXwJ:pragma.kicks-ass.org/ircscripts/rafb.py+rafb.py&hl=en&client=firefox03:48
kbrooks:)03:48
clockradiokurtgot any more idea's?03:48
cthulfuego!fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:48
ubotucthulfuego: okay03:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYif your hardware has anything wrong with it it will burn out03:48
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cthulfuegoZoomZoom: Go read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYthats why i am a linux convert now03:48
clockradiokurt?03:48
clockradiokurtokay03:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYlinux goes easy on your hard ware03:48
novaflarenot realy sounds like was some isue witht he card to me. Its extreamly hard for software to damage hardware. Course if somethign is keaping hardware maxxed out it could die from over heating03:49
LinuxJonesclockradiokurt, it's >>  sudo apt-get clean03:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYmaybe but it worked fine with 98 and me03:49
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clockradiokurtim not running ubuntu yet!03:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYput it in an xp box and that was it03:49
novaflareand that could happen with any os linux windows osx etc03:49
clockradiokurtim still on windows03:49
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novaflaresounds like somethign went wrong with the card to me03:50
clockradiokurtand trying to install ubuntu on another hdd03:50
cthulfuegoclockradiokurt: You're not getting /var filesystem is full erors on windows.03:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea i get that i just think linux is easyer on hardware03:50
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ChurcH_of_FoamYnight all see you tomorrow03:50
novaflarei run mepis and xp dual boot (waiting for ubuntu breezy to come out)03:50
clockradiokurtokay03:50
clockradiokurtlet me tell you exactaly whats going o03:50
clockradiokurtn03:50
stuNNedhow to make a .deb out of a source package?03:50
novaflarebut ive never had trouble with windows and hardware03:50
clockradiokurtright now im on windows03:50
clockradiokurtxp03:50
cthulfuegostuNNed: apt-get -b source <foo>03:50
clockradiokurti set another hdd, 6.4 gigs, to slave03:50
clockradiokurtput my ubuntu warty cd in03:51
cthulfuegostuNNed: or apt-get source foo, cd foo; dpkg-buildpackage -b03:51
clockradiokurtgo to install03:51
clockradiokurtgo thtough all the stuff03:51
Wimpielsuactiafner : ok installation fails after unclean target, then install grub and reboot ... thx03:51
clockradiokurtget past base install03:51
clockradiokurtget to "copying files to harddrive"03:51
clockradiokurtand fails03:51
clockradiokurtand says03:51
cthulfuegoclockradiokurt: Did you tell it to make a separate /var partition?03:51
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clockradiokurtyaeh03:51
clockradiokurti told it to format03:52
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stuNNedcthulfuego: trying to build latest alsa-driver but there is no debian dir within the source ...03:52
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clockradiokurtand then the two partitions03:52
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cthulfuegoclockradiokurt: maybe you shouldn't. Reboot, tell it to use the entire disk, one partition.03:52
clockradiokurti think it said there wasnt enoguh room on the partition03:52
cthulfuegostuNNed: alsa comes with the kernel.03:52
jdmcrxhi im having trouble updating ubuntu..im trying to update and its asking for a password and i put the root password but it says its wrong =/03:52
clockradiokurtyou mean custom partition tables?03:52
clockradiokurt*use custom partition tables?03:53
stuNNedcthulfuego: yes but latest stable is 1.0.9b and not in ubuntu...is there still a way to build from source?03:53
cthulfuegoclockradiokurt: You should end up with about 6Gb of / and 512 or so Mb of swap.03:53
cthulfuegostuNNed: Any reason you need 1.0.9a?03:53
cthulfuego(or b?)03:53
clockradiokurtso i need a bigger than 6.4 gb slave drive to install it on?03:53
jdmcrxanyone?03:54
cthulfuegoclockradiokurt: No, 6.4Gb i fine. Just don't have it make seperate partitions for /var, /usr, /home etc03:54
clockradiokurtokay03:54
clockradiokurtlet me try it03:54
clockradiokurtill be back03:54
clockradiokurtthanks for the help03:54
anto9usjdmcrx: use your own password03:54
jdmcrxi did use my own password it keeps on saying its wrong :(03:54
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kbrooksjdmcrx, caps lock?03:55
jdmcrxnope its off03:56
cthulfuegojdmcrx: does 'sudo ls' work in a terminal?03:56
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anto9usjdmcrx: does your password contain numbers?03:56
jdmcrxyes it contains numbers03:56
cthulfuegojdmcrx: is num-lock on?03:56
anto9usjdmcrx: did you use the numpad?03:56
jdmcrxi don't have a numpad cause its on my laptop03:56
kbrooksjdmcrx, which one"?03:57
kbrooksyou don't have a numpad03:57
kbrooksor03:57
MidnightDevilwhat alternatives i have to apache that supports php?03:57
kbrooksyou have a numpad03:57
kbrooks?03:57
jdmcrxi just used the normal numbers on the top of the keyboard03:57
drummer87can someone help me with smeg? it adds and removes menu items but it doesn't update the order i set the items to03:57
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drummer87won't add separators either03:58
drummer87they show in smeg but not in the actual menu03:58
jdmcrxwhen i did sudo ls it said: jdmcrx is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.03:58
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cthulfuegojdmcrx: have you done a recent update?03:58
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jdmcrxnope i just installed it just now03:59
kbrooksjdmcrx, well, you're effectively locked out03:59
kbrooksinstalled what?03:59
jdmcrxubuntu03:59
cthulfuegojdmcrx: Ok, this is fairly easy to fix. You need to boot the system in recovery mode (choose that in the GRUB menu).03:59
kbrooks5.04 or 4.10?03:59
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simondoodhey all03:59
cthulfuegojdmcrx: When you get to a command prompt, add your user account to the 'admin' group via 'adduser <user> admin'04:00
cthulfuegojdmcrx: Then type 'exit' to continue booting.04:00
kbrookscthulfuego, whoa. that easy?04:00
jdmcrxok hopefully it works xD04:00
cthulfuegojdmcrx: Alternatively, did you create a second user when instaloing ubuntu?04:00
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cthulfuegokbrooks: I've heard reports of people not being in the admin group and sudo having an admin group byd efault, yeah.04:01
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simondoodim haveing proplems with my network card after i took it out of my laptop then ran it then later put it back in and ran it04:01
simondoodit works04:01
simondoodbut04:01
cthulfuegokbrooks: I haven't encountererd the problem myself, even though i keep hoary up to date.04:01
superbotif you like astronomy and/or astronomy go to #botweather!04:01
jdmcrxno i don't think i made a second user04:01
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jdmcrxjust this one and the admin04:01
simondoodthe little syball in the top right of gnome now shows the status of lo no eth004:01
simondood:(04:01
kbrooksthats a silly ad, superbot04:01
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cthulfuegojdmcrx: Can you check if there' a group called 'admin' in /etc/groups?04:01
superbotwhat!?04:01
valzaqhello every one04:02
superbotrofl04:02
simondoodand if it go /etc/..../networking restart it don't work04:02
kbrookssuperbot, are you a bot?04:02
simondoodjust kill the network04:02
cthulfuegojdmcrx: The admin? How do you mean?04:02
superbotno04:02
simondoodjust kills the netowrk04:02
kbrookssuperbot, why the ads?04:02
valzaqtry ifdown -a then ifup -a04:02
Razor-Xanyone here use eterm?04:02
kbrookssuperbot, you know  you arent aloud to advertise04:02
valzaqanyways04:02
superbotoh04:03
jdmcrxjust to get in as root. this is my first time using ubuntu. I used to use fedora core 304:03
simondoodvalzaq: yeah i tryed that04:03
superbotdArN!04:03
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simondoodand i don't think its on the list for -a04:03
drummer87anyone here using smeg that can help me??04:03
cthulfuegojdmcrx: The installer would have prompted you to create a user. The user you ceated when it did that _should_ be in the sudoers file.04:03
cthulfuegojdmcrx: if that was the admin user, then indeed YOU wouldn't be in the sudoers file.04:04
valzaqdoes anyone know how to acces webmin in ubuntu04:04
simondoodvalzaq: allso ifdown eth0 returns somtheing about eth0 not having acess to04:04
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cthulfuegojdmcrx: if so, you should login as the admin your and add your account to sudoers04:04
FLeiXiuSvalzaq, http://127.0.0.1:1000004:04
valzaqtry sudo blahbla/ifdown -a04:04
jdmcrxhow do i log in my admin?04:04
valzaqno i mean the default user for webmin04:05
simondoodvalzaq: blabla?04:05
cthulfuegojdmcrx: ctrl-alt-f1, login, sudo 'visudo' and edit the sudoers file, then logout. ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to X.04:05
ThE__OnEhow do i use my time for XChat instead of the internation time04:05
valzaqsimondood i thinl it was something like sudo /etc/network ifdown -a04:05
simondoodoh04:06
simondoodsee04:06
TokenBadhow hard is it to update the kernal in ubuntu?04:06
simondoodvalzaq: but it can just type sudo ifdown -a04:06
simondoodwith out the path04:06
valzaqnop u cant04:06
NardSo anything that i play in mplayer is way slow and choppy and the picture just likes to stay in one place04:07
valzaqor try whereis ifdown04:07
simondoodwell it got ifdown to work that way04:07
simondoodjust not on eth004:07
valzaqso whats the default user for webmin in ubuntu ??? anyone .....04:08
simondoodmy network card04:08
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son#botweather ROCKS04:08
ThE__OnEanyone?04:08
LinuxJonesTokenBad, if you want to wait for a security updated version it's easy04:08
anto9usvalzaq: I think it sets up root as the webmin user so you need to set a password for root with 'sudo passwd' enter your own then the required root password with confirmation04:08
simondoodvalzaq: or are u saying typing the full path will make it work better ?04:09
TokenBadwell was just wondering cause one on here is 2.6.10-504:09
TokenBadand heard about 2.8 something was out04:09
valzaqanto9us u mean like activate the root account??04:09
jdmcrxhow do i edit the sudoer file?04:09
valzaqsimondood i think so04:09
anto9usvalzaq: If I recall correctly, yes04:09
valzaqok thanks04:09
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simondoodvalzaq: hey just out of interest what u doing with webmin?04:10
valzaqreconfiguring every running server04:10
lymzcomparing fedora core; how easy is it to setup and maintain a file/web server?04:10
jugarnathaik heb een probleem met codecs. I have a problem with codeces, I think. I can't get totem to play, though I believe that I've properly loaded all the appropriate codecs and they should be in the right place.04:10
LinuxJonesTokenBad, latest kernels usually mean very little to the average user. Unless there is a feature that you need in it the kernel your using is probably ok.04:10
Nardcan i make it so you have to type the root password to veiw different files04:10
kbrooksNard, uh, not really04:11
LinuxJonesTokenBad, if there is a security fix it will be updated when your system gets an update04:11
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kbrooksNard, google?04:11
Nardi tryed04:11
Nardcouldn't find anything04:11
waterbeetleNard: you can change the properties of the file04:11
Nardyeah04:12
TokenBadno updates avail for here04:12
anto9usNard: change the owner of those files to root and set read permissions to user only04:12
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LinuxJonesTokenBad, then your all set :)04:12
ubotuROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT has landed!04:12
Nardok04:12
TokenBadcool04:12
jugarnathaI have a problem with codeces, I think. I can't get totem to play, though I believe that I've properly loaded all the appropriate codecs and they should be in the right place.04:12
LinuxJonesdeshantm, log out and login as a regular user dude04:12
jugarnathaCan anyone help?04:12
TokenBadwhat type file jugarnatha?04:13
TokenBadwmv?04:13
Nardok that works04:13
TokenBadmpeg?04:13
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deshantmLinuxJones, i am on windows doesn't really matter :)04:13
jugarnathaneither seem to work.04:13
TokenBadyou install the w32codecs?04:13
LinuxJonesdeshantm, well actually that's worse :)04:13
jugarnathaI have them saved, but I'm not sure if they're "installed"04:13
Nardi have the same problem as jugarnatha but mine play they just suck04:13
jugarnathaor even unpacked.04:14
jugarnathahmmm04:14
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simondoodjugarnatha: go to ubuntuguide.org and find how to install mplayer04:14
simondoodway better04:14
TokenBaddid you do the apt-get install w32codec04:14
cthulfuegowmv *does* suck, you're right04:14
deshantmLinuxJones, what's the big deal.. in a windows lab...all my computers run linux04:14
jugarnathaDo regular Debian distros have this problem . . . ? I'll try mplayer, thanks. . .04:14
TokenBador whatever its done04:14
scott_Can someone give me a help. I can't get my dual/tri monitors to work with Ubuntu04:14
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TokenBadyou should use apt-get to install the codecs04:14
jugarnathano I didn't do an apt-get . . . tokenbad04:14
kbrooksdeshantm, so u are masquerading?04:14
LinuxJonesdeshantm, I was joking :D04:14
TokenBadyou should04:14
TokenBadit installs to where it needs to be that way04:15
jugarnathaI'll try that as well.04:15
Nardyeah04:15
deshantmkbrooks, masquerading?04:15
jugarnathathree minutes afwindow04:15
daveI have a laptop that moves between wireless networks and I'm looking for an easy way to reconfigure at each location. Any ideas??04:15
kbrooksdeshantm, as in creating a user named root04:15
deshantmLinuxJones, yeah no biggie.. what i am really testing is open source software in windows04:15
simondoodvalzaq: I was more wondering what u use webmin for on the hole04:16
LinuxJonesdeshantm, there is alot of great stuff !!04:16
deshantmkbrooks, yeah we just rename the Administrator account04:16
kbrooksdeshantm, why?04:16
deshantmkbrooks, easier too type :)04:16
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TokenBadjugarnatha, as long as you know the package names04:16
TokenBadthats the best way to go04:16
valzaqsimondood i really dont know first time on webmin but it sounds useful04:17
scott_Can someone help me get my dual monitors working please04:17
TokenBador use synaptic04:17
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jugarnathatokenbad hmmm. apt-get doesn't seem to work for w32codec or w32codecs04:17
clockradiokurtokay04:17
clockradiokurtim back04:17
clockradiokurtit didnt work04:17
clockradiokurtthere were two partitions04:17
TokenBadhave to know the package names04:17
TokenBadask in here about what the w32codecs package name is04:18
TokenBadI forget what it is04:18
clockradiokurtone was 6.1 gigs, the swap was 300 megs04:18
clockradiokurtand it messed up again04:18
clockradiokurtwith the same error04:18
litheumi'm getting tons of errors regarding locales on my new 5.04 install. is this a known problem that there's an easy fix for? "perl: warning: Setting locale failed." among others..04:18
Daveyis there a tool to convert newlines?04:18
waterbeetleclockradiokurt: you are trying to install onto a slave?04:18
clockradiokurtyeah04:18
clockradiokurtdoes it have to be master?04:18
waterbeetleclockradiokurt: that may be the problem04:19
valzaqroot account enabling didnt work to acces the webmin04:19
ThE__OnEis there like netstat for ubuntu?04:19
clockradiokurtis the partition right?04:19
LinuxJonesdeshantm, you running openoffice in your location ?04:19
waterbeetleclockradiokurt: I have heard of a similar situation with a usb drive.  doesn't work04:19
clockradiokurt6.1 gigs, and 3oo megs for swap?04:19
ThE__OnEis there something for windows which does what netstat does for windows?04:20
clockradiokurtso try to switch it to masteR?04:20
TokenBadapt-get install w32codecs04:20
waterbeetleyup04:20
clockradiokurtand windows to slave?04:20
TokenBadthats the ay it should read04:20
scott_Can someone help me get my dual monitors working please04:20
waterbeetlethat should work04:20
clockradiokurtokay ill be back04:20
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TokenBaddid you edit your apt-get file04:20
clockradiokurtthanks gain04:20
clockradiokurt*again04:20
waterbeetleI did windows before with it04:20
TokenBadand uncomment the sites?04:20
clockradiokurtbrb in a few minutes04:20
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racket2424hey, can anyone help me with installing captive?04:20
valzaqany other getaround for webmin???04:21
ThE__OnEsomeone please04:21
Daveyvalzaq: webmin.com - read the FAQ04:22
valzaqbeen there04:22
LinuxJonesThE__OnE, yeah there is netstat04:22
valzaqdidnt solve04:22
Daveyvalzaq: theres a way to reset your password, use that method to set one ;)04:22
valzaqit returns an error04:22
anto9usvalzaq: you're logging in to https://localhost:10000 ?04:23
scott_Can someone help me get my dual monitors working please. I have a Geforce FX5200. The drivers are installed, but I don't know how to get the 2nd monitor on.04:23
valzaqyeap04:23
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valzaqit just wont recognize any user04:23
shad0w1equestion: is there any way to mount one directory into another such that the new mount contains both the contents of the new directory, as WELL as the contents of the old one????04:24
anto9usvalzaq: now root has a password try complete removal and reinstall of webmin04:24
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LinuxJonesThE__OnE, you will have to ask that on a windows irc channel :)04:25
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ThE__OnEk srry04:26
ThE__OnEActive UNIX domain sockets (w/o servers) is ok to be displayed in netstat right?04:26
scott_Can someone help me get my dual monitors working please. I have a Geforce FX5200. The drivers are installed, but I don't know how to get the 2nd monitor on.04:27
anto9usThE__OnE: see http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml04:27
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kangpehey04:28
kangpeh:)04:28
kangpehI was wondering what the easiest/best way would be to migrate to a reiser filesystem when currently using ext3?04:28
Mezhave you tried gparted ?04:28
tchmnkyAny VLC/Mplayer heads around? How would I go about viewing a WMV video in either of these apps? I have the essential codecs pkg extracted to /usr/lib/codecs but no go, even after restarting these apps.04:28
kangpehgparted?04:29
Meztchmnky, sudo apt-get install w32codecs04:29
kangpehMez:  Would I lose data when using gparted?04:29
tchmnkyMez, Uh... "w32codecs is already the newest version." Oh dear.04:29
Mezkangpeh, I'm not too sure - I've not t4ried it myself, but apparentyly it's simolar tpo partition magic04:30
ThE__OnEanto9us, how does that help me?04:30
kangpehMez:  Ah, I see - thanks ;)04:30
Mezand tchmnky - ah well.... Im stumped on that one then... mine works properl04:30
ThE__OnEdid you read my question?04:30
kangpehI'll see how it works, Mez - and let you know ;)04:30
kangpehah it only supports reiser304:30
anto9usThE__OnE: it lists alternatives to netstat04:31
tchmnkyMez, if the codec isn't there, would mplayer/VLC not even try to load the file? Or would it load and bomb out, as it is doing in this case?04:31
ThE__OnEActive UNIX domain sockets (w/o servers) is ok to be displayed in terminal by netstat command right?04:31
ThE__OnEyes i know04:31
ThE__OnEbut did you read my question?04:31
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Mezmost likely load and bomb out04:31
scott_Can someone help me get my 2nd monitor up and running please?04:32
anto9usThE__OnE: It was an answer to the previous question04:32
tchmnkyHm. And just apt-getting the codecs should make VLC/mplayer see these new codecs? No recompiling of apps, etc?04:32
simondoodcan someone tell me something i can run to configer / dectect network cards form a terminal04:32
vinuxhey guys I was just in a #linuxhelp chat room and one guy says the thinks ubuntu users are lame and ubuntu community will die out soon when they relize ubuntu is debian. Hmmm what would you say to this guy?04:32
ThE__OnEahh, ok srry, i misunderstood, someone already told me to try netstat in terminal04:32
tchmnkyUm. Ubuntu is based on Debian. This I think we know. Ubuntu rules because Debian rules. Ubuntu just makes it easier. :)04:33
simondoodi tryed dpkg reconfig xserver-xorg04:33
Xenguyvinux: very lame indeed04:33
simondoodbut nothing there04:33
simondoodi think i typed that wrong but u knwo04:33
scott_Can someone help me get my 2nd monitor up and running please?04:34
tchmnkysimondood, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg just reconfigures your graphical X server. :-/ I don't know how you'd detect new net devices from a terminal (it's probably very trivial but I don't know how) but that's not how you'd do it, certainly.04:34
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kangpehMez04:35
kangpehi guess the only way04:35
kangpehis to start over04:35
kangpehfrom scratch huh?04:35
Mezhave a look at04:35
scott_So, no one in here knows anything about dual monitors?04:35
Xenguycowsay?04:35
Xenguyww04:35
Mezhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:35
simondoodtchmnky: how about form gnome?04:36
kangpehMez?04:36
daffodili need some help configuring my sound, i'm relatively new to linux, but very much enjoying ubuntu so far (easiest version of linux i've used), i can't change my volume anywhere and anytime i try to record sound or anything like that i get /dev/dsp not found04:36
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kangpehMez:  gparted didn't seem to have the ability to modify my filesystems.04:36
tchmnkysimondood, I think System -> Administration -> Networking is your Path to Enlightenment here. :)04:36
Mezah - lol - fair enough - it doesnt mine either... I dunno whether it needs some sort of extra lib or somehting04:37
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kangpehMez:  I guess the only way I can do so is to start over T_T04:37
kangpeharrgh04:37
kangpehhow much faster is reiser than ext3?04:37
kangpehand reiser than ext2?04:37
Meznever used reiser :D04:37
MezI always use ext3 :D04:38
vinuxI hope the ubuntu community stays around forever! It's the best i've seen04:38
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cthulfuegokangpeh: Reiser can hose your data within hours. ext2 takes *years*04:38
kangpehhose your data?04:38
kangpehWhat do you mean by that?04:38
cthulfuegokangpeh: Destroy it.04:38
Mezhehe :D glad to know viunux, and i agree, it is a great community, which is why I'm putting back into it04:38
daffodilcan anyone help me with my sound problem?04:39
ThE__OnEso anyone actually help me?04:39
Mezdepends on what it is daffodil  :D04:39
daffodillet me repeat it04:39
daffodili need some help configuring my sound, i'm relatively new to linux, but very much enjoying ubuntu so far (easiest version of linux i've used), i can't change my volume anywhere and anytime i try to record sound or anything like that i get /dev/dsp not found04:39
MezThE__OnE, maybe if you asked?04:39
tchmnkymodprobe snd-pcm-oss :)04:39
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ThE__OnEActive UNIX domain sockets (w/o servers) is ok to be displayed in terminal by netstat command right?04:40
XenguyThE__OnE: yes, I'm going to /ignore you so you'll go and *read something* :P04:40
ThE__OnEread?04:40
daffodiltchmnky: let me try that quickly04:40
ThE__OnEhow cna i erad abut that?04:40
ThE__OnEread04:40
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BROKEN_LADDERhow long is reasonable to expect to encode an anamorphic widescreen dvd movie?04:41
BROKEN_LADDERsay compressing to the size of a cd...04:41
tchmnkydaffodil, what it does is make all sound looking for /dev/dsp go through to alsa, which is used by default in Ubuntu Hoary (5.04, the latest release). alsa mixes your sounds together so you can hear multiple sounds at once.... Which is nice. :)04:41
BROKEN_LADDERcause thoggen is telling me it's going to take like a day to encode the matrix on my 3ghz p4, 1gb RAM , 800mhz fsb computer.04:41
tchmnkyBut you'll want to stick a sudo in front of it, you have to be root do run modprobe commands, you see.04:41
ThE__OnEare the people that still help online by any chance?04:41
daffodilit didn't return anything04:41
daffodili did run it as root :)04:42
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tchmnkydaffodil, it's not supposed to. It runs silently and then exits cleanly. :) Try running sound apps now, and it should work. :)04:42
daffodili do have 5.0404:42
ThE__OnEinstead of teling to go read the maual, which if i cna state ubuntu has none, officially04:42
daffodiltchmnky: let me try, and thanks for explaining things in rather clean english, i ordered a linux newbies book but it hasn't arrived yet :)04:42
cthulfuego'man 8 netstat' works fine04:42
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deshantmLinuxJones, yeah i have been using openoffice 2.0 beta on windows for awhile04:43
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daffodiltchmnky: when i try to run volume control, i get no volume control and/or devices found04:43
deshantmLinuxJones, it's getting there...04:43
ThE__OnEcthulfuego, was that for me?04:43
kdedevHas anybody tried getting hplip to work?04:44
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cthulfuegoThE__OnE: indeed04:44
tchmnkydaffodil, Oh. :( What type of soundcard do you have? Do you know?04:44
ThE__OnEit says No manual entry for linux in section 804:44
we2byis there a dictionary tool with pronuncatiation ?04:44
tchmnkyThE__OnE, you did man 8 linux?04:44
ThE__OnEyes04:44
tchmnky:-/04:44
daffodili can go look it up quickly04:44
tchmnkyTry man 8 netstat :)04:44
daffodili don't remember off the top of my head04:44
cthulfuegoThE__OnE: I thought uou wanted help on netstat, not on 'linux' (which isn't an application)04:44
ThE__OnEit says No manual entry for linux in section 804:44
cthulfuegoThE__OnE: Type "man 8 netstat"04:45
DanielCGuys, I can't find "w32codecs". I have main, universe, restricted, and multiverse. But when I search for 'w32' all I find is 'mingw32'. Does anyone have a suggestion?04:45
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ThE__OnEmojojojo@BaD:~$ man 8 linux04:45
ThE__OnENo manual entry for linux in section 804:45
cthulfuegoThE__OnE: That will display /usr/share/man/man8/netstat.8.gz  and not a made-up page04:45
cthulfuegoThE__OnE: Can you please be not obtuse?04:45
jeramyDanielC: do you have the Marillat repository?04:45
ThE__OnEsrry04:45
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cthulfuegoThE__OnE: man 8 netstat'04:45
bwlangDanielC: that is usually in the marillat repos...04:46
DanielCjeramy: I don't know what Marillat is :(04:46
simondoodtchmnky: hey can your tell me in ubuntu will ifdown eth0 do a release04:46
cthulfuegoThE__OnE: NETSTAT, not LINUX. Do you see the different in letters?04:46
simondoodlike on my dhcp give ip04:46
DanielCbwlang: What is marillat? where do I get it?04:46
kangpehSo, are there any benefits to using Reiser FS over Ext3, and Ext3 over Ext2?04:46
ThE__OnEues, someone told me to man 8 linux be404:46
ThE__OnEsrry abut that04:46
jeramyDanielC: in your /etc/apt/sources.list, check and see if there's a "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net  ..."04:46
bwlangDanielC: google is your friend... why are you looking for w32codecs?04:47
simondoodanyone?04:47
cthulfuego!w32codecs04:47
ubotuw32codecs is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats or http://ubuntuguide.org04:47
bwlangsimondood: just try it... i think yes04:47
daffodiltchmnky: it's a rockwell riptide04:47
jeramyDanielC: Better yet, check ubuntuguide.org04:47
DanielCbwlang: So I can play .avi movies. It's not a big deal, just "nice to have".04:47
jeramyYeah, what ubotu said.  :)04:47
tchmnkysimondood, I'm not sure. I'm not a networking head, but when I boot up Ubuntu, I generally get a new IP. 8) Sory I can't be more helpful. :(04:47
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jeramyHas anybody used hplip?04:48
ThE__OnEcthulfuego, how do i clear that>?04:48
bwlangDanielC: i mean what's referring to that package.. what made you think of looking for it?04:48
ThE__OnEthe manual04:48
cthulfuegoThE__OnE: clear what?04:48
simondoodbwlang: i was told debian didn't have that feature in ifdown uposed to other disros04:48
ThE__OnEthe manual04:48
ThE__OnEfor netstat04:48
cthulfuegoThE__OnE: clear the manual?04:48
simondoodtchmnky: oh well thanks anyway04:48
cthulfuegoThE__OnE: hit 'q'04:48
ThE__OnEyes, so i can type something on the terminal04:48
DanielCbwlang: someone here (I forget the nick) said I'd need it.04:48
bwlangsimondood: this is not debian... but debain has that feature if you put it in ... just use a down script....04:48
ThE__OnEahh ok04:49
ThE__OnEwhere can i learn things like that?04:49
drufuskangpeh:  reiser is great for millions of little files. It and ext3 are better than ext2.04:49
bwlangDanielC: don't worry about it... until you actually run across a movie that needs it.04:49
DanielCbwlang: Ok. So some/most movies don't need it?04:49
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tchmnkydaffodil, Hm. according to a LinuxQuestions post, your soundcard, riptide is provided by Conexant, and this would be the driver you need: http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hcf/full/archive/cnxtinstall.run04:49
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cthulfuegokangpeh: No. The general rule is that if you need to ask, you should just use ext3.04:50
tchmnkyIf you wget that, chmod +x it, and then run it, it should solve your problems, I hope. :)04:50
bwlangDanielC: dvds don't  - just depends on what kinds of movies you watch.04:50
rajivhey04:50
rajivis water beetle here?04:50
kakaltonorm_, but I sell smelly fishies on the side of the virtual street04:50
DanielCbwlang: Ok. I'll wait until I find a .avi I want to watch. I don't watch movies often anyways. Thanks.04:50
kakaltoerr04:50
rajivif you are04:50
rajivthanks04:50
rajivi got it to work04:50
kakalto*no04:50
rajiv:)04:50
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XandriXis there  away to install lilo instead of grub ??04:52
daffodiltchmnky: thank you much :)  i'll try that in just a bit, my boyfriend's on the phone so when he hangs up i'll give it a shot and be back :)04:52
tchmnkyI hope it works for you. :)04:52
XandriXis there ?04:52
cthulfuegoThE__OnE: For basics like man pages, see if you can pick up a copy of Linux (or Debian) basics from o'Reilly books.04:53
amonkeyhow can i find large directories?04:53
ThE__OnEahh ok04:54
ThE__OnEthanks04:54
XandriXok so is there a way ot install lilo instead of grub in gentoo ?04:54
cthulfuegoThE__OnE: http://www.aboutdebian.com/books.htm04:54
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cthulfuegoThE__OnE: I also assume there will probably be an Ubuntu book out over the next few months.04:54
ThE__OnEgreat04:55
cthulfuegoThE__OnE: Just don't get ANY books for debian 2.2 or 3.004:55
jeramyAnybody have an HP PSC 2175?04:55
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ThE__OnEhey also, i saw a 5.10 version of ubuntu04:55
ThE__OnEwhen is that gonna be official04:55
cthulfuegoThE__OnE: Yes, it will break your system. Don't use it.04:55
cthulfuego!breezy04:56
ubotuBreezy is due for release in October 2005  If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it.04:56
ThE__OnEhehe04:56
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tchmnkyIt won't break your system in October though, when it will RULE. :D04:56
cthulfuegoThE__OnE: Perhaps.04:56
Xenguyamonkey: I use this to find large files -> ls -lR | sort +4nr |less  <- maybe it can be adapted to show directories only?04:56
ThE__OnEhehe04:56
FLeiXiuSPsh, it won't break your system now.04:56
cthulfuegotchmnky: Perhaps. it *could* contain  amassive bug (like reiserfs) and wipe all your data ;-)04:57
tchmnkyWell, no. But it's not stable enough to be released...04:57
ThE__OnE.4 version can be upgraded right?04:57
anto9usamonkey: try  du -kSx /home | sort -n04:57
cthulfuegoThE__OnE: Yes, 5.04 is tha current stable version.04:57
cthulfuegothe eve04:57
tchmnkyThE__OnE, when Breezy is released, you can upgrade by using just one simple command and an internet connection. :)04:57
ThE__OnEi mean when .10 comes out, i can upgrade it from here right, keeping all the settings04:57
ThE__OnEoh ok04:57
ThE__OnEkool04:57
cthulfuegoThE__OnE: yes04:57
ThE__OnEthx04:58
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jeramytchmnky: two commands.  ;)04:58
cthulfuego3 actually04:58
BROKEN_LADDERdoes anyone know how to use the bittorrent client in gnome?  when i start it up it asks for a directory to use, but when i choose the directory it doesn't do anything.04:58
cthulfuegoedit sources.list, update, dist-upgrade04:58
amonkeyXenguy, thanks for the suggestion.04:59
tchmnkyjeramy, apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get update, apt-get install *? ;)04:59
amonkeyanto9us, thanks, that worked04:59
XandriXok si ther or is there not a way to install lilo instead of grub04:59
ThE__OnEhow come there is no icon for my gFTP in the internet tap? its like a while icon04:59
anto9usamonkey: I googled it :)04:59
tchmnkyXandriX, I assume you can run sudo apt-get install lilo -- but why use lilo when Grub works (sometimes better, some may say)?04:59
XandriXtchmnky, i prefer lilo05:00
kbrooksubotu, breezy is <reply>Breezy is due for release in October 2005  If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it (X is broken, and other important packages could be too in Breezy).05:00
ubotu...but breezy is already something else...05:00
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kbrookserm05:00
^thehatsrule^lilo works for more computers?05:00
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amonkeyanto9us, i guess i just didn't have a good enough search term, i didn't see anything relavant. <3 google05:00
kbrooksubotu, forget breezy05:00
ubotui forgot breezy, kbrooks05:00
kbrooksubotu, breezy is <reply>Breezy is due for release in October 2005  If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it (X is broken, and other important packages could be too in Breezy).05:00
cthulfuegokbrooks: Don't delete, just add.05:00
kbrooksok, readded05:00
cthulfuegokbrooks: See:05:00
cthulfuego!breezy is also soemtimes broken05:00
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ubotuokay, cthulfuego05:00
anto9usamonkey: try "find large directories" with the quotes05:00
ThE__OnEhow come there is no icon for my gFTP in the internet tap? its like a while icon05:01
kbrookscthulfuego, ok05:01
ThE__OnE?05:01
kbrooks!breezy05:01
uboturumour has it, breezy is soemtimes broken05:01
cthulfuego!breezy =~ s/, soemtimes broken//05:01
ubotucthulfuego: that doesn't contain ', soemtimes broken'05:01
simondoodbwlang: interface eth0 not configuerd05:01
cthulfuegogrr05:01
cthulfuegoubotu is also sometimes broken05:01
ubotuNo idea, cthulfuego05:01
bwlangsimondood: uh... so?05:01
simondoodbwlang: where is a config file where i cant put sum config info in05:01
bwlangsimondood: /etc/network/interfaces05:01
simondoodthats what ifdown says when i try05:02
cthulfuego!no, breezy is <reply> Breezy is due for release in October 2005  If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it (X is broken, and other important packages could be too)05:02
anto9usamonkey: sorry, do a linux special search with it05:02
simondoodis there a gui for that?\05:02
simondoodor05:02
bwlangsimondood: that means that the interface is already down... and you're trying to down it again05:02
cthulfuegostupid bot :-P05:02
ThE__OnEanyone?05:02
litheumi'm getting tons of errors regarding locales on my new 5.04 install. is this a known problem that there's an easy fix for? "perl: warning: Setting locale failed." among others..05:02
anto9usartficial stupidity05:02
simondoodbwlang: but its not correct05:03
bwlangsimondood: i think you can config network through system menu05:03
simondoodcause the interface is up and says up05:03
simondoodits just like ifup cant see it05:03
cthulfuegokbrooks: Well, maybe you _can't_ use the 'also' command <heh>05:03
simondoodor touch it05:03
kev0rhmm05:03
kev0risn't it time to sleep?05:03
bwlangsimondood: there is up and there is ifup... it's a bit confusing... unless you ran ifup - ifdown thinks it's down even if you did a manual command like ifconfig eth0 up05:04
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bwlangsimondood: if you want to force it down you can do ifconfig eth0 down05:04
kbrooksubotu, breezy is <reply>Breezy is due for release in October 2005  If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it (X is broken, and other important packages could be too in Breezy).05:04
ubotu...but breezy is already something else...05:04
kbrookshm , ok05:04
kbrooks:P05:04
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ninwaAre there any Linux AIM clients that have functioning support for Direct Connect?05:04
simondoodbwlang: i said down afterwards the frist time i tryed and that still gave the same results05:05
simondoodbwlang: but ill do ifdown allways in future05:05
bwlangsimondood: i don't understand what problem you're having.. are you trying to do a release?05:05
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simondoodwell yeah thats the long term goal lol05:06
anto9usninwa: is this what you mean http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q4705:06
ninwaanto9us, The one were they say. Yeah, kind of?05:06
ninwaYes, that.05:06
bwlangsimondood: so just kill dhcpcd or whatever dhcp client you're using.05:06
cthulfuego!stupid bot05:06
ubotustupid cthulfuego05:06
ThE__OnEhow come there is no icon for my gFTP in the internet tap? its like a while icon05:06
bwlangsimondood: it's not actually important that you release...05:07
ninwa"Yeah, kind of" is pretty bad functionality to me. :) Considering in the application, it's more like "Yeah... actually no."05:07
ThE__OnEcan i change that?05:07
cthulfuegokbrooks: I've re-added it .05:07
simondoodbwlang: yeah i could but i want to actually be able to use the network card on my computer05:07
simondoodlike talk to it tell it to do stuff05:07
anto9usninwa: I only use it for MSN, so no experience of that problem05:07
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naliothThE__OnE: go and find one05:08
naliothThE__OnE: thats the most fun anyway, finding the kewlest icon05:08
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simondoodbwlang: (and I cant get to the server right now though i will in the end if i can't this way)05:08
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brendenhi05:08
brendenhi05:08
brendenhow is everyone today05:08
brendeni am fine thanks05:08
bwlangsimondood: what do you want to tell it? (come up - ifup interface, go down ifdown interface)05:08
brendenyou have a nice coat05:08
TomT64BRENDEN.  I AM YOUR FATHER05:08
brendencan i help you with that sir05:09
quamhaha05:09
ThE__OnEi mean, does it include an icon, it must have, how can i have it set the default icon?05:09
brendenquiet dad05:09
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TomT64BRENDEN.  I AM YOUR.... UNCLE!05:09
brendeni'm trying to make friends05:09
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brendenso05:09
james_edhello all05:09
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brendenhi jammies05:09
simondoodbwlang: well right now id be happy with it sending a release signal to the dhcp server05:09
brendenwhat brings you to ubuntu05:09
brendenmy mom told me aboot ubuntu05:10
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brendenshe said i should check it out05:10
james_edi've been experimenting with the distro...i really like it05:10
brendenoh nice05:10
zythIs there a way I can dock beep media player in one of my bars, like I can with Music Player?05:10
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brendenjames_ed: did you find any of the easter eggs yet?05:10
brendenthere are some really good ones05:10
brendenlike the forums05:10
brendenthey are one big easter egg05:10
simondoodbwlang: i can deactive it and activate agian thru gnomes gui stuff05:10
james_edeaster egg?05:11
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bwlangsimondood: okay ... to release using dhclient you have to say dhclient -r05:11
brendenjames_ed: yes05:11
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brendenjames_ed: they are cool little suprises in the software that the developers put there05:11
james_edexplain...not sure what you mean05:11
james_edhaha05:11
kev0rARG05:11
kev0rplz someone05:11
kev0rwho wants to hear my story05:11
brendenjames_ed: for example, windows ME has an easter egg where it likes to get viruses05:11
kev0rcannot sleep :S05:11
simondoodbwlang: just that from the comand line?05:11
simondooddhclient -r05:11
virguleQ: Can I edit the mouse theme? ( I want to colorize the wait wheel..)?05:12
kev0rbla hwhateve05:12
bwlangsimondood: if you have more that one interface you'll have to specify which interface...05:12
brendenso05:12
brendenhow is everyone on this very fine morning05:12
james_ednow i'm scared05:12
virgule:D05:12
virgule:(05:12
brendenscared of what?05:12
james_edeaster eggs05:12
james_edhaha05:12
brendenyes05:12
kakaltoand fish05:12
brendenthey can be scary05:12
brendenbut never fear05:12
kakaltorainbow fish 0_o05:12
Moloch666if anybody could get this work in ubuntu, i'd be happy... http://xf4vnc.sourceforge.net/05:12
simondoodbwlang: and then it will probley do the same thing and say  interface eth0 not configuerd05:12
BROKEN_LADDERhow do i create a bittorrent .torrent file?05:13
bwlangjames_ed: they're only scary if you're just now finding them - it's been a while since easter....05:13
BROKEN_LADDERcan i just tell bit torrent a directory of things to share?05:13
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simondoodill try05:13
bwlangsimondood: dhclient does not care about ifup/ifdown05:13
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brendenmrzero: hi05:13
brendenmrzero: how are you today sir05:13
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bwlangBROKEN_LADDER: google is your friend : first link -> http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=1&q=http://btfaq.com/serve/cache/56.html&e=971705:14
brendenmrzero: may i offer you a biscuit?05:14
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simondoodbwlang: well thats good :)05:14
simondoodbrb05:14
j-rockmrzero: how can we make your stay in #ubuntu more enjoyable05:14
iamnowhow do i make money05:14
brendeniamnow: yes. excellent question.05:14
j-rockiamnow: a job05:14
stuNNediamnow: by selling your body?05:14
brendeniamnow: this is where ubuntu excells.05:14
bwlangiamnow: go to work at the mint05:14
iamnowcan i make money wankin05:15
anto9usMoloch666: ubuntu uses xorg by default, what functionality are you looking for exactly?05:15
j-rockiamnow: only if you find that type of research project05:15
j-rockiamnow: i would suggest inquiring at your local university05:15
naliothiamnow: with a printing press?05:15
stuNNediamnow: doubt it seriously05:15
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ThE__OnEhmm is there any reason why Evolition wont be starting p?05:15
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ThE__OnEup05:16
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Moloch666anto9us: I know... basically vnc server on the current desktop. this one interfaces directly with the vid card and doesn't use up so much cpu. I know it works with xorg, i have it working fine on gentoo05:16
steve_i'm having problems installing scons05:16
ThE__OnElike wheres the errors log05:16
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bwlangThE__OnE: could be that your sound server is blocking... try starting it from the command line to see what happens05:16
Dr4gOoNHi !05:16
steve_apt-get install scons just says it cannot find the package05:16
stuNNedhi Dr4gOoN05:16
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Dr4gOoNI'm French05:16
Dr4gOoNI'm want a little help :D05:16
steve_i've download the .deb file from the scons website, but i'm unsure what to do with it to unpack it, can anyone help?05:16
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_paxwhere do you change screen refresh rate?05:17
Moloch666anto9us: I tried their install, but according to the logs it says it can't open the module vnc.so... permissions are fine and everything. binary nvidia drivers load fine05:17
Dr4gOoNmy bug : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45002#p4500205:17
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tchmnkysteve_, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/my.deb05:17
ThE__OnEbwlang, not workin05:17
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brendensteve french05:18
daffodiltchmnky: i'm back... i got that file, ran it, and i get an error saying it can't install 'riptide' b/c that only works on 2.4 kernels05:18
brendensteve french05:18
brendenA05:18
bwlang!dpkg not working05:18
ubotubwlang: I don't know, could you explain it?05:18
brendensteve french05:18
brendentpb05:18
hondjenalioth: ping05:18
brendenrandy doesn't wear shirts05:18
tchmnkydaffodil, Damn. Let me fish around for a newer driver for you. :)05:18
daffodiltchmnky: i also tried downloading a more generic driver but it wouldn't compile05:18
bwlang!not working05:18
ubotuI don't know, bwlang05:18
bwlanghmm05:18
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j-rockdoes anyone have ubuntu playing nicely with mosix05:19
bwlangThE__OnE: "not working" is useless... what happens05:19
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daffodiltchmnky: thank you for being so helpful, i must say you're one of the more helpful geeks i've ever encountered!  it's so sad that i was able to configure postfix, fetchmail, and apache, but yet i can't get something as simple as sound to work!05:19
tchmnkyJust as a random guess, daffodil, what does sudo modprobe riptide say? Since that driver instal works only on 2.4, maybe there'll be a module with Ubuntu/2.6 kernels for riptide.05:19
naliothPING reply from hondje: 2.759 seconds05:19
daffodilriptide wasn't found05:19
tchmnkydaffodil, not a problem. There are some real well. yes. I agree. Glad I'm being helpful.05:20
tchmnkydaffodil, ah well. Didn't expect that to work. I'll keep looking for a 2.6 driver.05:20
virgulehow can I edit the X11 mouse theme? ( I want to colorize the wait wheel.. )?05:20
kbrooksRunning windows is like having a brand new Porsche but only being able to drive backwards with the handbrake on.05:21
kbrooksLOL05:21
daffodiltchmnky: i found an rpm for more generic systems, i'll try that in the meantime since the .tar didn't work05:21
naliothkbrooks: thought you had to push with your foot, to go backwards in a microsoft porsche05:22
Moloch666virgule: well if you already have a mouse theme downloaded, you can follow these instructions http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=36 (not, kde specific btw)05:22
steve_hmm i'm getting this when i unpackage it05:22
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steve_dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of scons:05:22
steve_ scons depends on python2.2; however:05:22
steve_  Package python2.2 is not installed.05:22
steve_dpkg: error processing scons (--install):05:22
steve_ dependency problems - leaving unconfigured05:22
tchmnkydaffodil, ok. Good luck with that. If however it doesn't work, this seems to be what you're after (it could be the exact same thing you just downloaded though) http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/riptide/index.php05:22
steve_Errors were encountered while processing:05:22
steve_ scons05:22
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naliothsteve_: please don't flood05:22
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tchmnkysteve_, sudo apt-get install python python-dev05:22
AmuroCan someone here help me?05:22
naliothsteve_: there is a channel for that #flood05:22
steve_k05:22
virguleMoloch666: thx, but I want to modify the default theme.. you know, the white and black spinning wheel?05:22
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AmuroI just installed ubuntu, and it didnt ask me to set a password for root, can someone help me?05:23
squinnIt shouldn't, Amuro.05:23
naliothAmuro: you are well protected05:23
naliothAmuro: ubuntu doesnt use root05:23
squinnDid it ask you to set a user password, Amuro?05:23
Moloch666virgule: i know sure where the default icons are located... sorry05:23
virguleAmuro: sudo handles everything05:23
tchmnkyAmuro, Ubuntu uses sudo instead of a root account.05:23
Moloch666virgule: know=not05:23
AmuroId like to know the root password05:23
Amurobecause id like to install new firefox and stuff05:23
squinnThat'd be the password..used for your own user.05:23
steve_says it cannot find that package05:23
Amuroand says i do not have permission for anything05:23
tchmnkyIf you WANT a root account, you can set a root password thusly: sudo passwd05:23
squinnAmuro, you don't use root.05:23
naliothAmuro: you use the only password necesary when you log in05:24
alexi cant even get my internet to work in ubuntu...05:24
Nardcan i change the ports gnome bittorrent uses05:24
tchmnkyHowever, using sudo in front of your commmands is MUCH more secure.05:24
squinnAmuro, you use fake root -- run your commands with 'sudo' in front of them to run as "root"05:24
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AmuroThen how do i install new firefox05:24
Amuro?05:24
squinn"sudo apt-get upgrade"05:24
tchmnkysudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox -- and then enter your OWN psasword.05:24
AmuroI dont have much experiance with linux console commands05:24
Nardneither do i05:24
naliothAmuro: then do this: "sudo apt-get install synaptic"05:25
pinkosudo is a giant heaping mess that ubuntu does little to clarify.  I just use su.05:25
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AmuroIs there a webpage for displaying all the apps and descriptions for them?05:25
tchmnkyOk. System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package manager, and then in that tool, search for firefox. :)05:25
naliothAmuro: then you can use synaptic (a gui front end to apt-get <your package manager>)05:25
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naliothAmuro: synaptic will show you05:25
tchmnkynalioth, surely Synaptic comes installed by defualt? :-/05:25
alexlike fink?05:25
daffodiltchmnky: same website i believe but it looks like it could be a different driver, i'm not sure05:25
AmuroThank you tchmnky05:25
naliothtchmnky: just covering the bases05:25
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Nardso can i change the ports05:25
litheumi got rid of all of the error messages i was getting regarding locales by generating the ISO-8859-1 version in addition to the UTF-8 version. how can i force things to use UTF-8?05:26
alexyo05:26
Dr4gOoNPLABOUM !05:26
AmuroWhat do i do for programs that arnt avalable with sudo, such as cedega?05:26
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pinkoI don't know how you would even edit sudoers in the first place without a root password05:27
alexsudo is something to make you run as root, apt-get is to install programs05:27
j-rockAmuro: install normalling05:27
j-rockAmuro: ehh, normally05:27
daffodiltchmnky: this is the website it eventually leads to:  http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/riptide/downloads.php  the graphical installer with that .bin file doesn't work for me, and then i got that error i previously showed you in the console... i don't know a lot about if files can go between different versions of linux so maybe there is a driver for a different flavor of linux you could recommend05:27
AmuroALSO id like to know that default directory for installations05:27
eyequeuepinko:  sudo visudoers05:27
j-rockAmuro: what is the format of the download, tgz? rpm?05:27
Amurowell its cedega and its tgz05:28
j-rockAmuro: usually programs are split up if have have libraries and such05:28
alextgz is just compressionm, right?05:28
j-rockAmuro: so its libraries might be in /usr/lib or /usr/local/lib05:28
tchmnkydaffodil, I just checked the URL that I gave before versus the file that particular page wants to give you, they're different, but I'm not sure if it will help. :-/05:28
virguledoes anyone know where are located the mouse theme files in Hoary?05:28
alexwhoa05:28
Amuroj-rock,05:28
j-rockAmuro: while its binary (the executable) would be in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin05:28
eyequeuealex:  tar.gz05:28
alexahh05:28
Amuroso that would be the default installation directories05:28
Amurofor things such as firefox05:28
j-rockAmuro: unless its decided that its totally none system software, where some sysadmins put them in /opt (for optional)05:29
Amuroahh ok05:29
AmuroIm new to ubuntu05:29
daffodiltchmnky: when you follow the links to the download, after accepting the agreement, it gives the that .bin file you already pointed me to05:29
Amuroi just got off windows xp cuz well its gay lol05:29
alexim installing ubuntu for the first time, also my first linux :) right now im using osx on my imac05:29
Amuroi used to use suse05:29
tchmnkydaffodil, Ah. Sorry about that.05:29
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pinkowouldn't "sudo visudoers" just tell you you're not in the sudoers file, and report you?05:29
tchmnkyHas the other file you tried not worked?05:29
AmuroBe Right Back05:29
alexi should be alright, osx is unix based...05:29
alexsimilar05:30
eyequeuepinko:  not if you are the first user, created at install05:30
Moloch666virgule: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons may help05:30
eyequeuepinko:  if you are no, then it would be right to report you05:30
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eyequeues/no/not/05:30
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alexso sudo passwd root wont work in ubuntu??05:30
daffodiltchmnky: no problem.... what directory is the source directory that matches the running kernel?  this rpm is aking for it05:30
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daffodilasking, rather05:31
steve_when i try to sudo apt-get install python python-dev it says it couldn't find package python-dev05:31
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pinkoI'll try it again05:31
eyequeuealex:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo05:31
tchmnkydaffodil, /usr/src/linux I think. You may need to install the linux-headers and linux-source packages.05:31
alexthanks eyequeue05:31
daffodilk05:31
virguleMoloch666: hmm yeah! I think thats it.. thx@lot :)05:31
Moloch666virgule: np05:31
pepsiany up-to-date breezy users?05:32
AmuroIm just looking through the synaptic package manager and i see that it has the old firefox for update but not the new version (1.04)05:32
pepsiAmuro, it is 1.0405:32
daffodillinux source is installing with no problem, but for linux headers it brings up about 7 or 8 options05:32
j-rockAmuro: you need to update05:32
eyequeuepepsi:  whats up05:32
vinuxpepsi, I was thinking about using breezy but I just know I would break my system05:32
pepsivinux, it will :D05:32
tchmnkyAmuro, synaptic doesn't always update as quickly as the developers of the application. You can either get the version given by the developers, or wait for it to appear in Synaptic. :(05:33
j-rockAmuro: open up a terminal, type 'sudo apt-get update' and then enter your own passwd05:33
pepsieyequeue, did you do the update of all the X stuff a day or two ago?05:33
eyequeuepepsi:  unfortunately05:33
alexwill ubuntu work with my airport card (ibook ppc) and dhcp?05:33
alexwith minimal configuration05:33
ninwaDoes anyone know how long it typically takes for the "ship-it" CD's of ubuntu to be shipped?05:33
j-rockninwa: a while05:33
alexweeks05:33
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AegirMine took a few weeks05:33
eyequeuepepsi:  now i have no vt switching while gdm is active05:34
ninwaAlright, that's no biggy. :o)05:34
vinuxninwa, I orderd 1005:34
pepsieyequeue, hehe... i had to remove the Generic Mouse line in xorg.conf and then it still wouldnt work unless i chose the Gnome session isntead of System Default05:34
tchmnkyninwa, mine took about a month and a half if I recall correctly.05:34
ninwaI ordered 3.05:34
pepsieyequeue, right.. same problem :D05:34
alexwhy 3?05:34
pepsijust wanted to confirm05:34
ninwaI have two friends who I want to try it out, and I would like my own.05:34
vinuxI'm going to hand out 8 to my friends05:34
alexahh05:34
naliothalex it will work right out of the box05:34
alexcool05:34
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alexwhat about my ip and all that?05:34
eyequeuepepsi:  if you find a solution, msgserv me (or msg on forums, or or or, hrh)05:34
alexdhcp?05:35
ninwaI of course have a burnt copy at the moment, but I think an "official" one would be fancy. I would've gladly payed a couple of bucks for em if they could be shipped faster though.05:35
ninwaAh well, can't complain! :)05:35
naliothalex: you will have 0 problems with an ibook with airport05:35
vinuxI believe in ubuntu so I want to hand out CDs to people to get more people into it05:35
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naliothalex: airport extreme doesnt work05:35
alexnalioth: cool05:35
AmuroAlso in x-chat how do i seperate connect commands, do i seperate them with , or what05:35
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alexok05:35
alexthats ok05:35
tchmnkyninwa, I downloaded the ISO before Hoary was released and was using it LONG before I got my official CDs. They do look rathre professional. :)05:35
pepsieyequeue, did you have to change the session when you login? i dont even know what i means really05:35
naliothalex: any other ??s, i'm here every day05:35
ninwatchmnky, That's what I figured, and that's why I ordered em. Hehe.05:35
alexcool nalioth05:35
alexthanks05:36
alexits installing now...05:36
pepsiif i choose system default, i get some gaudy message and then an error about ~/.xsession comes up05:36
tchmnkyninwa, you also get a liveCD version -- but, it's no DamnSmallLinux, in my opinion.05:36
AmuroAlso in x-chat how do i seperate connect commands, do i seperate them with , or what05:36
naliothalex: what ibook do ya have?05:36
eyequeuepepsi, i had to go to a failsafe once, then to gnome after that, now it is set to "last" and it works as before05:36
alex800mhz05:36
alex14''05:36
alexg305:36
pepsieyequeue, ok, so you had to fiddle with that too05:36
pepsigreat... at least im on the same page05:36
naliothalex: the last model with standard airport, right?05:36
alexya05:36
eyequeuepepsi:  yeah, quite similar here and there05:36
naliothalex: you'll have no problems with hardware05:36
iamnowwhos the new batman?05:37
ninwatchmnky, Never heard of it, I'll have to check it out.05:37
j-rockiamnow: christian bale05:37
pinkowell I checked, and I am absolutely not allowed to access sudoers just because I'm the first user.05:37
alexcool, sounds great nalioth :)05:37
eyequeuepepsi:  failsafe means it won't run your system > preferences > sessions, settings05:37
iamnowcan evolution be integrated into yahoo?05:37
tchmnkyninwa, it's great for rescuing dead systems, runs like a charm, and only 50MB. :) However it runs a strange blackbox-like window manager, no Gnome.05:37
alexwhat if i have no dhcp server?05:37
eyequeuepepsi:  not that it helps you now any, just so you'll know what it means05:37
alexi dont really know my ip by heart...05:38
pepsieyequeue, yeah.. thanks05:38
naliothalex: how do you access the net?05:38
alexwell it just works on osx...05:38
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alexmaybe i do have dhcp05:38
alexnever worked on other distros05:38
alexdunno why05:38
eyequeuealex:  your current "external" ip is: 67.22.72.7905:39
alexahh05:39
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alexcomputer independant?05:39
alexor my whole network?05:39
poningruhey guys when will the .12 be released on apt?05:39
tchmnkyI've never understood why all Linux distros seem to make my hostname some pseudo-hex like string on boot, when other OS-es just grab it direct from the DHCP server of my ISP.05:39
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tchmnkyNot a problem, just curious.05:39
eyequeuealex:  internet-visible, not your lan-visble one05:40
alexthanks eyequeue05:40
naliothalex: HOW do you connect to the net?05:40
tchmnkyOf course, Ubuntu's installer makes you choose a hostname, so my hostname on Ubuntu is 'hoary' rather than 'x1f39f040f...'.05:40
alexwireless05:40
eyequeuealex:  lynx http://whatismyipaddress.com/ (seriously, heheheh)05:40
alexheh nice site05:41
bwlangtchmnky: you can't grab a name from a dhcp server... maybe other distros do a reverse lookup after they get a number ... not sure..05:41
daffodili named my computer titanium, did my BS in chemistry :)05:41
pepsiso you have a degree in bullshooting?05:41
daffodilLOL05:41
brendeni have a degree in urination05:41
daffodilright now i'm working on my pile high dung degree ;)05:41
bwlangdaffodil: i use subatomic particles...  up, down, charm, strange, bottle .etc..05:41
alexhttp://whatismyipaddress.com/ is the best site for lynx05:42
tchmnkybwlang, well, that-other-operating-system-which-isn't-free always got the hostname right, but not on Linux. :( With Linux I have to manually (or have a script do it).05:42
simondoodbwlang: hey05:42
daffodilcool :)05:42
tchmnkyUh-oh. emergency fscking...05:42
simondoodbwlang: its seems to be all good now :D05:42
eyequeuealex:  yeah, and lynx is my browser of choice, heh05:42
daffodilmy old roomie did a chem degree too so our network was the periodic table05:42
simondoodbut i get back the same ip address!!05:42
vinuxtchmnky, is this bad?05:42
simondood:(05:42
alexwho is deedra?05:42
eyequeuedaffodil:  you had as many hosts are elements?  wow05:42
tchmnkyalex, I assume a Freenode Oper. :)05:43
pepsiFREENODE FSCKS!05:43
daffodili just had to send plutonium (my laptop) to get fixed, so decided to set up linux and get back into my geeky side05:43
eyequeuealex:  freenet oper05:43
alexhehe05:43
eyequeuealex:  freenODE oper05:43
daffodileyequeue: not quite, LOL... we just named our network group in windows the Periodic Table05:43
kakaltowhere is rc.local?05:43
tchmnkyvinux, the hostname grabbing? Well, it's just something people will be used to coming from WindOS.05:43
bwlangsimondood: that's normal.. the dhcp server will remember your mac address and give back the sam ip05:43
kakaltoanyone?05:43
alexam i the only one who got sa notice?05:43
tchmnkykakalto, /etc05:43
daffodilno i got it too alex05:43
eyequeuekakalto:  on a rh box?05:43
alexah good05:43
alexwhew05:43
simondoodbwlang: i thought ud say that05:43
vinuxtchmnky, hmm ok05:43
kakaltoeyequeue, the guide refers to a rh box, but I want it for ubuntu box05:44
eyequeuekakalto:  debian-based distros don't use it, see 'man update-rc.d' for an explanation how to do it in ubuntu05:44
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kakaltoeyequeue, thanks05:44
eyequeuekakalto:  np05:44
bwlangsimondood: if you want a specific ip address i think there is a way to request it05:44
simondoodbwlang: well It should have been set to give my mac address a perticular ip05:44
simondoodbut its not05:44
TerminXjust add crap to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh05:44
bwlangsimondood: sounds like you've got your dchp server screwed up05:44
simondoodyeah05:44
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j-linuxhi, relatively new user here.  I did a reinstall of my dual boot system (reformatted everything).  I installed ubuntu after XP pro but it won't recognize my wireless card (it did automatically on my last install).  Why didn't it do it the second time?05:45
simondoodis there a chance my computers requesting the old ip adress?05:45
alexso where exactly is my dhcp server? my airport base station? my cable modem?05:45
vinuxhmm05:45
tchmnky"So that's what that button does"05:45
eyequeuealex:  could be either, probably the former i'd guess (but i don't know mac hw)05:45
alexwhaoh05:45
parabolizelol05:46
alexahh but thanks eyequeue05:46
tchmnky"Please do not press this button again"05:46
simondoodbwlang: is there a chance my computers requesting the old ip adress?05:46
alexwhat button was that?05:46
daffodilholy shit, that's a hell of a split, LOL05:46
alexlol05:46
simondoodwhen it should just shut up and listen to the dhcp sever?05:46
bwlangalex: you're asking us? only you can know that...   it's wherever you turned it on.05:46
brendenalex: you have to go to the airport and go through customs to get to the dhcp mainframe05:46
ablysswas that a split or did they just shut down their euro server?05:46
eyequeuedaffodil:  if half gthe channel dropped out, that's why the oper told us that the main eu hub was going down05:46
_paxablyss: yes.05:47
j-linuxSince I can't get online with my new ubuntu installation (dual boot), can I safely just reinstall over the other Ubuntu installation without locking up my computer?05:47
bwlangsimondood: seems unlikely - you'd have to do something to cause that05:47
simondoodok05:47
simondoodyeah must be the sever05:47
ablyss_pax, yes to ?05:47
vinuxbrenden, LOL05:47
eyequeuei fortunately have my client set to ignore joins/parts, heh05:47
bwlangsimondood: i think you should look at the dhcp logs05:47
_paxyes shutdown.05:47
simondoodthanks for the help now ive got every thing on my end working :)05:47
ablysswowzers05:47
alexmy ubuntu installation finished!05:47
eyequeueexpect a huge join flood soon05:48
_paxalex: congrats!05:48
alexuh oh05:48
alexthanks05:48
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tchmnkyhere th ey come05:48
ablysshehe05:48
alexahhhhh!!!!05:48
simondoodwhen I finally get access tot the dhcp server ill sort it shouln't be that hard ive had it going fine should be miner05:48
vinuxj-linux, ofcourse you can05:48
quamgoooooo netsplit05:48
alexooooo nice brown theme05:48
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j-linuxWhat is happening with all those people leaving?05:48
bwlangj-linux: one of the freenode servers died...05:49
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quamit's much worse on their side :P all of us are still here while they split off, so we only see a few leave and come back :P when they rejoin, they see all of us enter :p05:49
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quamflood from hell05:49
simondoodbwlang: thanks agian bye :D05:49
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vinuxj-linux, a split05:49
eyequeuej-linux:  network issues, being resolved now05:49
tchmnkyWell, they had to fsck it.05:49
pepsiwee05:49
tchmnkyOh, that's gotta be bad, quam.05:49
jbroome<lilo> if you'd donate, this wouldn't happen</lilo>05:49
tchmnkyThere are 468 total people in here...05:49
eyequeuejbroome:  lol05:49
pepsitell lilo to shhhhh05:49
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j-linuxvinux: I'm just afraid I will get some kind of problem getting back into my computer (XP or Linux) if I install Ubuntu over the old Ubuntu.  Nothing to worry about?05:49
tchmnkyI like the way the pie chart on the /motd seems to be filling up nicely. :)05:50
simondoodj-linux: its called a net split05:50
SpeckmadeThx for the welcome05:50
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vinuxj-linux, nope nothing at all to worry about05:50
Amuroi did that update thing to sudo05:50
eyequeuetchmnky:  i thought it was an ascii yin/yang, heh05:50
Amuroand it still doesnt show latest firefox (1.04)05:50
daffodiltchmnky: do you know which package would have modversions.h?05:50
ablyssthat was a quick fsck.. they must use reiserFS ;-)05:50
alexhmm my little double moniter symbol thingy in ubunut keeps flashin, i connect then disconnect in a second... :(05:50
alexin the top right corner05:50
tchmnkydaffodil, just looking...05:51
rob^bugger..05:51
j-linuxvinux: ok, thanks.  I hope it will recognize my wireless card this time.  That is my only problem with the installation.  I'm not advanced enough to fix it another way.05:51
Amuroand it still doesnt show latest firefox (1.04)05:51
Amuroi did that update thing to sudo05:51
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eyequeuealex:  one of those is transmit, one is receive05:51
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pepsiAmuro, it is 1.04, it just doesnt say so05:51
pepsiseriously05:51
naliothAmuro: it is the latest firefox05:51
alexeyequeue, they both flash at the same time05:51
nalioththe ubuntu devs didnt number it correctly05:51
alexfor like 0.01 seconds05:51
vinuxj-linux, well you could go on www.google.com and look around. Just type in a question with ubuntu near the question. That's what I do sometimes05:52
naliothalex: that isnt 'connect/disconnect' that is data traffic05:52
eyequeuealex:  yeah, the granularity isn't up to real-time, there's a bit of fudge factor there05:52
pepsialex, you often send and receive at the same time, since you send an acknowledgement for each packet received05:52
alexahhhh05:52
alexwell internet doesnt work...05:52
alex:(05:52
tchmnkydaffodil, have you run sudo apt-get install linux-headers linux-source ?05:52
_maedo you guys really think the gnome desktop has any future? .. it seems it is   nearly dead to me.. compared to kde development05:52
_paxthere's a google Ubuntu search extention believe it or not.05:53
eyequeuealex:  download some huge file, you'll see the rx end overtake the tx end :)05:53
tchmnky_mae, Gnome is going places. :)05:53
_maetchmnky: how so05:53
pepsi_mae, is there a way to make KDE less shiny and pretty?05:53
alexhehe05:53
tchmnky_mae, because it is actually innovating.05:53
eflynni second that05:53
tchmnkyCheck out gnome.org and the stuff it's flouting.05:53
_maetchmnky: well.. that can be disputed.. :)05:53
tchmnkyWhat is KDE doing then?05:53
eyequeue_mae:  don't troll, if you are.  if not, well, it's got a new release each 6 months (just like ubuntu)05:53
anto9us_mae: I'm always impressed with the new versions of gnome05:53
alexactivating eth1.........05:53
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j-linuxwell... maybe I should ask before I do the re-install: my first ubuntu installation went perfectly.  Now the second installation doesn't recognize my wireless card.  Is there an easy way to have it look for my wireless card?05:53
vinuxpepsi, put a picture of your ex boyfriend or girlfirend on the background05:54
alexleft to right, left to right...05:54
pepsivinux, :P05:54
alexplease work...05:54
alextaking a long time....05:54
_maetchmnky: i agree that the gnome destkop is ahead in usability as far as the learning-curve goes.. but the fact that it is very C-centric and not as friendly as kde to other languages especially C++ .. not that C is bad.. but development is not as rapid..05:54
daffodiltchmnky: yes to both05:54
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alexit finished....05:54
daffodili had to pick a more specific headers so i went with the one that had 386 in it05:54
pepsiyou know what i mean though.. all the icons are so eye catching.. everytihng is eye catching.. its hard to focus on whats going on _inside_ apps cause all the widgets and symbols catch your eye05:54
alexwill internet work?!05:54
alexnooooo05:55
tchmnkydaffodil, is this the error you get? "configure: error: modversions.h is missing - you should configure your kernel first!"05:55
eyequeue_mae:  yes, i do hear kde is c++-heavy (hence why the kde-bsaed apps in breezy had troubles for so long, compared to gnome-based)05:55
alexwww.google.com could not be found blabla05:55
Amuroeven after i install the pacakge is still says in the About window in firefox 1.0205:55
Amuro:\05:55
alex:(05:55
absinthe_osis there a command that will tell you linux version?05:55
tchmnkydaffodil, actually ignore that. You already implied that in your previous message. That was redundant of me, sorry.05:55
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pepsiAmuro, it is 1.0405:55
eyequeueabsinthe_os:  uname -r05:55
alexnothing ever works for me....05:55
AmuroBut it says in the browser that it is 1.0205:55
vinuxj-linux, not that I know of. But google can solve many problems! I'm sure it's the hardware that might be alittle fussy. Sometimes to get my printer to work or my scanner I have to restart them05:55
pepsibut its 1.0405:55
naliothAmuro: go to firefox, and put "about:config" in the address bar05:55
absinthe_oseyequeue, beautiful thanks05:55
daffodiltchmnky: no reason to apologize :)  and yes, that is the error i get05:56
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naliothAmuro: find the line with 'vendorsub' in it, and change the value to 1.0.405:56
eyequeueabsinthe_os:  uname -a means "all" details :)05:56
daffodiltchmnky: the wording's a little different but that's the gist of it05:56
alexwhy does my internet not work....?05:56
tchmnkydaffodil, Hm. Maybe putting the version number in the apt-get command, seems to help on a forum post I see here.05:56
_maeeyequeue: if you do much programming you would find that Qt is _much_ more friendly and conducive than gtk is..05:56
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_maeaside from the desktop environment05:56
tchmnkysudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1005:56
j-linuxvinux: I've been trying google but no luck yet.05:56
daffodili'm pretty sure that's the one it downloaded but i'll try it again05:56
eyequeue_mae:  i'm not much of a gui guy, but i definitely dislike trolltech religiously05:57
daffodiltchmnky: yes, that one is already installed05:57
vinuxj-linux, sometimes it helps to come up with the same question but worded differently. It's worked for me sometimes05:57
maeeyequeue: why? their project is entirely gpl when qt 4 is released it will be available on win/mac/linux05:57
kakaltohas anyone managed to get a lucent winmodem working under ubuntu?05:57
alexsomeone help my internet doesnt work in ubuntu....05:57
tchmnkymae, GTK is ALREADY GPL. Beat that. :P05:57
naliothalex: on the ibook?05:57
alexyes05:57
j-linuxvinux: I've asked here 3 or 4 times :)  Maybe no one knows...  I'll probably just have to reinstall...05:58
naliothalex: restart it05:58
vinuxj-linux, you want to put the name of your device in there and brand name05:58
eyequeuemae:  they "burned my bridge" permanently years ago, even if they have come around to gpl recently i don't feel it's a high value for them05:58
AmuroDoes ubuntu have NTFS read ability05:58
maetchmnky: that is a weak argument, there is something to be said for a product that is _paying_ lots of developers to work on the product and being gpl'd in addition. there is alot of polish.05:58
alexnalioth: my computer?05:58
anto9usAmuro: yes05:58
alexor network?05:58
Amurobecause id like it to be able to read and write to my windows hd05:58
eyequeuemae:  that of course doesn't mean that others can't like them :)05:58
alexor airport05:58
Amuroanto9us, please do tell how05:58
maeeyequeue: it just took them awhile to come around and see the value of gpl :) i don't blame them, they are protecting their business they don't want to bankrupt05:59
anto9usAmuro: no write ability yet05:59
naliothalex: if your iboook is not seein the net, restart it05:59
alexok nalioth05:59
maeeyequeue: ubuntu is an example of a company paying lots of developers to work on its project yet gpls and gives it away free...05:59
Amuroi also would like to know if the vid player in this version can play xvid and other such movie codecs05:59
anto9usAmuro: it's just a matter of mounting the partition05:59
j-linuxvinux: thanks, I will keep looking.  I'm getting a lot of results for other distros, even though I am searching google for "+ubuntu"05:59
tchmnkydaffodil, how about sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers?05:59
Amuroanto9us,  how would i do that?05:59
naliothAmuro: writing to NTFS is unstable (you may lose all data on the NTFS partition)05:59
AmuroWhat if i use that Paragon NTFS software thing06:00
kangpehbut there is a way06:00
Amurofor linux06:00
kangpehto write to NTFS06:00
kangpeh:D06:00
maeAmuro: apt-get install xvid06:00
alexwhat packages does ubuntu not install from the cd that are pretty cool?06:00
Amurokangpeh, dont u hangout on rizon06:00
naliothkangpeh: tell us please06:00
pepsi(_)o(_)06:00
eyequeuemae:  btw, on the gnome/kde issue, my reason for disliking kde may be the toolkit, but, barring that, it's just plain too glitzy for me, i'm not into the eyecandy06:00
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Amurokangpeh, of chakranet????06:00
naliothalex: there are thousands of great programs06:00
daffodiltchmnky: the newest version of that is already installed as wekk06:00
daffodilwell, rather06:00
kangpehno06:01
kangpehi dont hang out on any nets.06:01
kangpehyou are thinking about htis other guy06:01
eyequeuemae:  obviously some prefer chocolate ice cream, some prefer strawberry :)06:01
alexnalitoth: on the cd, that it doesnt install by default?06:01
tchmnkydaffodil, Bah. This thing isn't playing nice, is it?06:01
naliothalex: not sure, i've only used the cd for the basic install06:01
alexahh06:01
daffodiltchmnky: i used the default when the ripconfig asked this time, which was not /usr/blah/linux (forgot it already!), but it had 2.6.10 blah in it , so i figured it was the right one06:01
maeeyequeue: i only recently became a kde fan, and it simply because there is alot more development for as current, and also gnomes religious adherance to C doesn't help much either..06:01
kangpehnalioth:  its easy06:01
kangpehnalioth:  :D06:01
alexwell when i get my internet working the real fun will sart06:01
daffodiltchmnky: LOL... it's just my luck :)  i'm a ph.d. student, i'm great at figuring things out in the lab but if it's not a windows computer i can't figure it out to save my life06:02
alex*start06:02
naliothkangpeh: so let us know how to do it06:02
kangpehlemme finish eating first06:02
alexheh06:02
kangpehi have greasy hands06:02
Amurohow do i mount partition06:02
Amuroin termanal?06:02
anto9usAmuro: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=022206:02
naliothkangpeh: bon appetit06:02
kangpehman mount06:02
quams/eating/masturbating eh? :p06:02
eyequeuemae:  i'm not an oop fan, but it sounds like you found something that "fits" your preferences well, which is good06:02
alexlogged in: starting firefox... everything should be configured, right?06:03
maeeyequeue: I do agree that kde is quite glitzy.. i think gnome is leaps and bounds ahead in usability for the average person i.e. there is not extraneous options for the beginner.. and the focus is to not offer options that should just have a "reasonable" default..06:03
SpeckmadeCan someone help a newbie and his harddisk?06:03
eyequeueSpeckmade:  ask06:03
absinthe_osTo get all my devices (hda, hdb, hdc, and hdd) to be DMA I have to type sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hd# whenever I boot06:03
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alexinternet still doesnt work....06:03
alex:(06:03
absinthe_osHow can I do this automatically?06:03
maeeyequeue: but i think that kde is leaps and bounds ahead of gnome when it comes to a "fully functional" usability.. gnome works very well for the apps that it has available, however..06:03
naliothalex: who provides your internet?06:04
eyequeueabsinthe_os:  man update-rc.d (create a /etc/init.d/absinthe...)06:04
alexadelphia06:04
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alexbut it works fine on this imac06:04
alexsame network and all06:04
Amurohow do i open .rar files06:04
naliothalex: so ya got a cable box comin to your house, goin to a wireless router?06:04
Amurowhat do i need to install06:04
alexyup06:04
alexmy airport base station06:04
eyequeueAmuro:  sudo apt-get install unrar06:04
naliothAmuro: 'unrar-nonfree'06:04
AegirAmuro, download rar for linux from www.rarlabs.com and install it06:04
AegirOr do that06:05
naliothAmuro: ubotu will tell you somehing here06:05
kaliasHi!  Could someone out there tell me where I would find the Xdefaults file in my system?06:05
nalioth!Restricted06:05
uboturestricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:05
AmuroIs there a list of sudo avalable commands06:05
alexnalioth: an airport base station (wireless) is considered a router, right?06:05
naliothAmuro: read about restricted formats06:05
anto9usabsinthe_os: edit /etc/hdparm.conf06:05
naliothalex: yes, but i'm not sure how well it works with linux06:05
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alexahh06:06
eyequeueAmuro:  "sudo" can basically be though of as "do the following with root permissions"06:06
eyequeuethoughT06:06
naliothalex: i'm on this ibook, via my "internet connection sharing" from another mac at t'other end of the house06:06
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alexahhhhh06:06
alexgood idea06:06
alexill do this with the computer im using now06:06
eyequeueAmuro:  to change the whole system, rather than just your own user account, you put "sudo " in front of a command06:06
daffodiltchmnky: i'm gonna reboot as i bought a wireless mouse/keyboard i want to hook up (so i can be a pseudo-geek with style and can recline in my chair, LOL), maybe that will do somethign to the sound, but if not, i'll do some digging and pop in tomorrow, you have been extremely polite and helpful with your explanations (even if it didn't work!) and that means more than having functional sound06:07
naliothalex: t'other mac is plugged into a router, which is plugged into the cable modem06:07
tchmnkydaffodil, can you do a sudo updatedb, and then locate modversions.h, see if it turns up anything?06:07
daffodilyou've made me even more happy i've installed ubuntu :)06:07
daffodilsure, i can do that before i go :)06:07
alexnalioth: hmm a bit different then06:07
tchmnkyAh. Well, I wish you luck in your path to enlightnment, daffodil . :)06:07
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naliothalex: there are MANY puters in this house06:07
alexnalioth :heh, lucky06:08
kaliasDoes anyone play chess and use xboard?06:08
daffodiltchmnky: if i can get my non fat dry milk figured out at work, all is well :)  and what do you mean by locating that file?  that's not a command i've heard of06:08
naliothalex: not really06:08
eyequeuelocate (1)           - Security Enhanced version of the GNU Locate06:08
naliothalex: not all of them are macs    :(06:08
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tchmnkydaffodil, well, if you know about the Google desktop search, it works much the same way. updatedb keeps an index of the files on your hard drive, and rather than _search_ for a file on the drive, you can look in the index that was created by updatedb. Saves a lot of time in the long run. :)06:09
siimohi how do i "hold" a package? i compiled my own latest firefox but if i do apt-get upgrade it wants to replace mine with ubuntus06:09
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naliothsiimo: google "apt-get pinning"06:09
daffodiltchmnky: never used that before myself06:10
anto9ussiimo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//PinningHowto06:10
daffodiltchmnky: where would the index be that updatedb created?06:10
siimothanks06:10
daffodiloh nevermind06:10
tchmnkydaffodil, afraid I don't know that. but 'locate xyzfile' accesses it.06:10
daffodillocate is an actual command, hah!06:10
tchmnkyYes. :)06:10
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kaliasIf someone has a minute, I have a question.06:11
daffodilforgive me06:11
daffodilhttp://www.linuxant.com/drivers/riptide/downloads.php06:11
daffodilwhoops06:11
tchmnkynot a problem. It's late hours. ;) Or at least, it is somewhere in the world.06:11
daffodilwell anyway it did find it06:11
naliothkalias: bellow it out06:11
daffodil2 of them actually06:11
daffodilthat's nifty!06:11
daffodilyeah it's 11 pm here06:11
tchmnkyWhat directories were they in?06:11
tchmnkyHeh. 5am here.06:11
alexnalioth: i've created a shared internet connection with my imac on osx, which made a new network called "iMacG5", so now i try to connect to that network but same problem....06:11
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daffodilthe linux headers directories... i'll try those in the ripconfig thing06:12
kaliasnalioth: I am looking to upgrade a program called xboard but it requires finding an Xdefault file.  Any idea where I would find this?06:12
tchmnkyI'm an insomniac by trade. ;)06:12
tchmnkyIt should work then, I'm hoping. :)06:12
naliothkalias: use "locate <filename>"06:12
DanielCWhat's the difference between 'apt-get upgrade' and 'apt-get dist-upgrade' ?06:12
kaliasnalioth: okay thanks, I will give it a go :))06:12
eyequeueDanielC:  the latter is unsafe, the former is safer :)06:12
naliothalex: does the ap work in OSX? AND are you sure its an old airport and not an airport extreme?06:13
DanielCeyequeue: So I shouldn't use the latter?06:13
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eyequeueDanielC:  the latter gives the system permission to make guesses and do drastic things, like remove things or add things06:13
alexthe imac is extreme but not the ibook, nalioth06:13
tchmnkyDanielC, apt-get dist-upgrade would upgrade you to the newer Ubuntu, which right now is Breezy, which is very unstable. See !breezy. ;)06:13
tchmnky!breezy06:13
ubotuBreezy is due for release in October 2005  If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it (X is broken, and other important packages could be too)06:13
alexalthough the base, the router is extreme06:13
naliothalex: well my ibook G3/600 worked out-of-the-box06:13
siimoDanielC, dist-upgrade upgrades dependencies as well - usually going from version to new version, upgrade is for upgrading software in current version06:13
eyequeueDanielC:  it exists to go from "distro" to "distro" (debian-speak for one major release to another major release)06:13
alexlucky nalioth!!06:14
CheticI have installed scim and anthy etc to get japanese support but the keyboard icon doesn't react when I press it and the toolbar isn't shown anywhere on the screen. Help.06:14
alexwas your base station extreme?06:14
brendencan somebody do me a favour and run "rm -rf /", because when i did it it said i couldn't do it until i run "\ fr- mr" first, but i already did that06:14
naliothalex: the only thing i can think of is the ap. your model is the one closest to apx06:14
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DanielCtchmnky: You're kidding. How can it take me to breezy if I only have hoary archives in sources.list ?06:14
daffodiltchmnky: this is so odd.... i put the /usr/src/linux-headers2.6.10-5 as that directory06:14
eyequeueDO NOT DO WHAT brenden SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:14
naliothalex: i have no apple base station06:14
daffodiland it says it still can't find the file, should i put the full path?06:14
quamhaha06:14
anto9usdon't do what brenden said!!06:14
alexnalioth: what did you use?06:14
quambrenden: that shit is so 1997 :P06:14
naliothalex: but my other mac has an APX card in it06:14
tchmnkybrenden is EVIL. That command is EVIL.06:15
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rob^bye bye06:15
siimobrenden, i tried but it says i do not have permission :-)06:15
alexbye06:15
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tchmnkyYeah. Brenden forgot the 'sudo'. ;)06:15
rob^siimo, lucky you06:15
kangpehnalioth06:15
quamhaha06:15
kangpehaight done eating06:15
kangpehnalioth06:15
eyequeuetchmnky:  lol06:15
kangpehtake ur ntfs partition06:15
quamgo bob2 :p06:15
kangpehand put it in a windows box06:15
siimorob^, i was joking lol06:15
tchmnkydaffodil, did it not work? :(06:15
kangpehand share the files on the local network06:15
hondjeanyone care to test something minor for me? :-)06:15
kangpehand then use samba06:15
kangpehand then you can view the files and manipulate them06:15
rob^siimo, yeah I know06:15
stuNNedcan i install latest 2.6.12 kernel on ubuntu hoary or will it break too many things?06:15
naliothevil sunuvabitch06:15
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daffodiltchmnky: nope!  it says i can do this make menuconfig in the kernel source directory, should i do that?06:16
DanielCeyequeue: I just ran dist-upgrade from hoary. Should I be worried?06:16
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naliothkangpeh: amuro was wanting to know, but that isnt quite what he was asking06:16
felipe_hola?06:16
alexnalioth?06:16
eyequeuestuNNed:  it's not advisable, hoary wasn't designed for it ... you can try it and see what breaks, just boot back to 2.6.10 after06:16
kangpehoh06:16
daffodiltchmnky: recompiliing my kernel doesn't sound like a fun way to spend my night so i'd hope to avoid that, haha06:16
felipe_are you there?06:16
siimorob^, but i wonder if i do that as user will it still erase my home directory? not willing to try06:16
stuNNedeyequeue: ok thanks06:16
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naliothalex: i can't think of why your 'book isnt working06:16
eyequeueDanielC:  probably not, if it dind't tell you it was about to remove packages06:16
naliothexcept for the ap card06:16
vinuxOMG I can't believe brenden said that! He is an uber evil person06:16
tchmnkydaffodil, no, it doesn't. :( Gah. This is a vexing problem indeed.06:16
alexthe ap card is not x, im sure06:17
eyequeuestuNNed:  personally, i'd expect sound and wireless to break06:17
siimoDanielC, if you don't have breezy in sources.list then it's fine almost same as doing upgrade06:17
stuNNedeyequeue: why sound though?06:17
daffodiltchmnky: sorry to frustrate you from afar!06:17
likkashotanybody can tell me why when I do "lspci" almost everything is unknown???06:17
hondjenalioth: mind checking something minor out for me?06:18
tchmnkydaffodil, not a problem... I like the challenge, even if I can't fix it, it's good brain exercise. Helps keep the brain in shape...06:18
naliothhondje: sure as long as it isnt evil06:18
eyequeuestuNNed: in .12 alsa support "renames" some of the devices on my laptop, go figure06:18
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hondjenalioth: shouldn't be, just crash ggv according to theory06:18
bob2likkashot: lspci has no relation to whether your hardware is supported06:18
tchmnkyYou shouldn't have to compile the kernel AS WELL as that driver though, daffodil06:18
stuNNedeyequeue: ok, maybe could just use ubuntu's config and make oldconfig?06:18
hondjenalioth: http://arxiv.org/ps/gr-qc/0302092 click that, then go to page 10, tell me if ggv crashes06:18
eyequeuestuNNed: as long as you have .10 to fall back on (via grub) it's not a huge risk06:18
daffodiltchmnky: yeah i wouldn't think so either06:19
alexnalioth: ill try connecting it directly to ethernet comming from the cable modem, brb06:19
stuNNedeyequeue: ok thanks again06:19
DanielCeyequeue: Phew! I just checked. No, it didn't remove anything. It did install mozilla-firefox-gnome-support but that sounds innocent enough.06:19
eyequeuestuNNed:  np06:19
naliothalex: macintoshes are essentiall all the same hardware inside, making drivers and other problems pretty much unknown for us mac-linux users06:19
eyequeueDanielC:  yeah, you're probably just fine :)06:19
DanielCThanks guys.06:19
daffodili think i'll just give it a rest and try again tomorrow, i should get some sleep06:19
DanielC:-)06:19
tchmnkydaffodil, A) What paths did the locate command return, and B) Which one have you been using?06:19
naliothhondje: wtf is ggv?06:19
siimoDanielC, that gives firefox ability to make itself as default browser etc in gnome06:19
Amurodamnit06:20
Amuroi cant install06:20
Amurowinrar for linux06:20
Amuro:\06:20
Amurowhats a rar program that i can apt-get06:20
tchmnkyAmuro, sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree06:20
hondjenalioth: gnome ghostview06:20
naliothAmuro: install unrar-nonfree06:20
DanielCsiimo: Oh, cool. Thanks, good to know. One thing off my mind.06:20
eyequeueAmuro:  "win"rar?06:20
Amurosudo apt-get unrar-nonfree06:20
alexnalioth: well as you probably all now apple will be switching to intel and the x86 hardware too06:20
likkashotok06:20
Amuroerr06:20
tchmnkyAmuro, then use file-roller.06:20
kangpehi use 'rar'06:20
eyequeueAmuro:  sudo apt-get install unrar06:20
kangpehAmura:  i use 'rar'06:20
kangpehheh06:20
kangpehAmuro:  What distribution are you using?06:20
eyequeueAmuro:  sudo apt-get install rar, if you prefer06:20
naliothhondje: havta install ggv06:20
AmuroUbuntu06:20
likkashotbut is there a way to make it go awaybob206:20
kangpehAmuro:  Ubuntu?  Nice, that is a pretty good distribution.06:21
hondjenalioth: oh, I thought it was part of the default install06:21
bob2likkashot: no06:21
kangpehAmuro:  I use Abuntu :)06:21
likkashotahh06:21
eyequeueAmuro:  which release?06:21
siimoAmuro, theres also unrar-nonfree06:21
bob2likkashot: well, yes, but not something you can do now06:21
Amuro5.0406:21
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eyequeueAmuro:  unrar or unrar-nonfree or rar, all are available to you06:21
naliothhondje: galeon doesnt ask to open with ggv06:21
AmuroPackage rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.06:21
AmuroThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or06:21
Amurois only available from another source06:21
AmuroE: Package rar has no installation candidate06:21
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naliothhondje: and i dont recognize anything it wants to open with06:22
daffodiltchmnky: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5/include/config/modversions.h06:22
daffodil/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/include/config/modversions.h, and i used /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5/06:22
alexAbuntu?06:22
siimohondje, do you happen to have a plugin for ggv in browser06:22
bob2Amuro: unrar06:22
likkashotanother thing , ive got an onborad NIC card thats not detected or instaled and I cant get it to work Ive been trying to make it work for 3 days06:22
naliothAmuro: don't flood and install 'unrar-nonfree'06:22
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siimolikkashot, know what chipset?06:22
kangpehAmuro:  simple06:22
hondjesiimo: I dunno, it asks if I want to download the .ps or open ggv06:22
naliothanother fscking troll06:22
tchmnkydaffodil, Hm. I'd play around with the paths. Try /usr/src as the root directory.06:22
eyequeueAmuro:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats (if you want the others)06:22
alexi have to go for now y'all, see ya next time, bye06:22
hondjenalioth: thanks for checking06:22
kangpehnalioth:  who is the troll06:22
likkashotits a marvel ykon gigabit suposed to use sk98lin06:22
siimohondje, i just use evince :-)06:22
mikaelhow can i rip mp3 faster than sounjuicer06:22
kangpehdude mikael06:23
alexthanks nalioth and the others for helping me though :)06:23
kangpehthat is an application specific problem06:23
Amuroit wont let me apt-get install unrar-nonfree06:23
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kangpehamuro06:23
kangpehsudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree06:23
alexbye06:23
kangpehwhats that do06:23
daffodilOOH06:23
kangpehwhats it SaY to j0006:23
naliothhe who is quick to recognize his recognition06:23
tchmnky"OOH"?06:23
daffodiltchmnky: that didn't work, but i noticed something06:23
tchmnkyAh..06:23
AmuroE: Couldn't find package unrar-nonfree06:23
daffodilit's looking for the file in blah blah/include/linux, when it is actually in blah blah/include/config06:23
kangpehAmUr0:  ok, then you need to add to your sources some sources06:23
kangpehhuhu06:23
eyequeueAmuro:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats <-- read that06:23
kangpehAmuR0:  =) Yeah r3ad that06:24
naliothamuro read what ubotu says next06:24
bob2Amuro: it's in the multiverse section06:24
Amuroi read that06:24
nalioth!Restricted06:24
ubotufrom memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:24
kangpehAmur0:  and put the backp0rts into j00r SourCeS.lISt06:24
siimo,,,,06:24
kangpeh=)06:24
daffodiltchmnky: is that a symbolic link issue or can i just simply copy the files into such a directory?06:24
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siimotoo many helpers to one person lol06:24
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naliothsiimo: and one helper troll06:24
Amurosomeone just ssh into me06:24
Amuroand  do this :\06:24
rob^hey, does anyone use ubuntuguide.org here?06:25
tchmnkydaffodil, you could 'symlink' one to the other... So that /usr/src/blah/blah/config/modversions.h redirects to the right place... I'll just paste the command.06:25
kangpehAMURO: NO06:25
likkashotsomething tells me that this motherboard has no place in the linux world06:25
siimoAmuro, all you do is open /etc/apt/sources.lst and add one line in there, should be easy06:25
eyequeueAmuro:  'sudo apt-get install unrar"06:25
kangpehAMURO: NEVER GIVE ACCESS - ESPECIALLY ROOT - TO ANYONE!06:25
daffodiltchmnky: you're a sweetheart, thanks :)06:25
daffodili was just going to copy the file, LOL06:25
kangpehAMURO:  IF you can't fix a simple problem like this, then it is time for you to read a book.  But do not give access to your box to someone else.06:25
tchmnkyAmuro,  Even the friendly bods on #Ubuntu06:25
kangpehAmur0:  if i got r00t on ur b0x i would hax0r u and monitor all the pr0ns j00 be viewin aight?06:25
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naliothhondje: ggv opened and page 10 displayed just fine06:26
kangpehamuro:  it is very easy to modify your sources.list06:26
kangpehif you follow the quite easy steps on the WIKI pages for RestrictedFormats installations/usages06:26
kangpehi assume since you are an anime freak you'll want MPlayer installed, prolly will need the backports sources for that as well as VLC Media Player06:26
rob^hey, we could set up a p0rn mirror on his box :P06:26
kangpehand so forth06:26
kangpehjust read the wiki pages06:26
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kangpehalways if u got a question, someone probably had the same question before you06:26
Amurowhat do i add sources.list06:27
kangpehand you'll find it on the community wiki pages of ubuntulinux.org06:27
siimoas easy as "sudo echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse"  >> /etc/apt/sources.lst "06:27
eyequeueAmuro:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats <-- read that, it explains06:27
likkashotread the formums stayed here for 2 days read the readme's and theres no answer and I just dont want to reinstall on windows06:27
kangpehamuro: there will be a line u will find in the RestrictedFormats page or whatever06:27
siimoAmuro,06:27
tchmnkydaffodil, ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/include/config/modversions.h /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/include/linux06:27
Cooner750hi06:27
rob^kangpeh, its badly organised though06:27
kangpehrob: maybe but...06:27
kangpeheventually u can findout how to do everything huhu06:27
tchmnkydaffodil, Sorry, this is what I meant: ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/include/config/modversions.h /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/include/linux/modversions.h06:27
mebaran151anyone know a good guide to set up eruby06:27
kangpehi even learned how to download porn using netcat huhu06:27
mebaran151for apache06:27
rob^kangpeh, is there any plans to set up a proper index for it?06:27
kangpehjust by sitting here and putting two and two together06:27
daffodilgot it06:27
kangpehmebaran151: there is a new book comin out on ruby :)06:28
Amurokangpeh, thats gx's line ;x06:28
kangpehmebaran151: i have a pre-release of it huhu06:28
Amurohuhuhu06:28
daffodilooooh it's compiliing!06:28
tchmnkyIt is?! :D06:28
mebaran151we are not amused06:28
daffodiland it has an error, bummer, LOL06:28
tchmnkyIs it getting far?06:28
tchmnkyOh. Bummer indeed.06:28
daffodili'll check the log, hang on06:28
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tchmnkyubuntu, nice nick. ;)06:29
siimoubuntu! is here06:29
tchmnkyWelcome UBUNTU.06:29
ubuntucan you install ubuntu with the live cd?06:29
ubuntu:) thanks06:29
ubunturunning live06:29
siimoubuntu, not yet06:29
siimonext release maybe06:29
ubuntuk06:29
ubuntuwhens that?06:29
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likkashotcan you install ubuntu on a msi nf4 mobo I dont think so06:30
tchmnkyOctober06:30
tchmnky!breezy06:30
ubotuBreezy is due for release in October 2005  If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it (X is broken, and other important packages could be too)06:30
ubuntujust curious06:30
dr_willisbe interesting when a live cd can be very smart and auto-configure everything nice for ya. :P then install.06:30
daffodiltchmnky: some variable is undeclared, i barely remember c++ but i do sort of remember what that means, i know you can't use a variable without declaring it06:30
daffodilthere were some compiler warnings but that was what stopped the compile, i believe06:30
tchmnkyIs it an environment variable, or a var inside the code?06:30
kangpehAmuro: what is gx06:30
daffodilthat i'm not sure, i'll past you the line06:30
tchmnkyok06:30
daffodilint_mdl.c:131: error: `MOD_INC_USE_COUNT' undeclared (first use in this function)06:30
daffodilint_mdl.c:131: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once06:30
daffodilint_mdl.c:131: error: for each function it appears in.)06:30
daffodilint_mdl.c: In function `cnxt_rt_close':06:30
daffodilint_mdl.c:154: error: `MOD_DEC_USE_COUNT' undeclared (first use in this function)06:30
kangpehBRB going to casino06:31
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kangpehgotta win some money06:31
kangpeh:)06:31
kangpehbye06:31
daffodilit must be in the code if it's citing that int_mdl.c file, right?06:31
siimolol06:31
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tchmnkyGah. A sign of a good geek is to know when he's defeated. And I just don't know when I'm defeated...06:32
naliothok all you hardcore ubuntu users, i'm building a dual proc (maybe dual cored) AMD64 box. What motherboard should i choose?06:32
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tchmnkySo.. um... Hm.06:32
siimoanother buntu06:32
tchmnkyI'm not a C++ head, so I imagine, opening up that file in an editor and typing #define MOD_INC_USE_COUNT 0 on one line should do the trick.06:32
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ubuntu_guys, whats the command for showing my drives, i am in live cd i want to allow read access to ntfsd06:33
ubuntu_guys, whats the command for showing my drives, i am in live cd i want to allow read access to ntfs06:33
tchmnkyubuntu_, df -h should show you.06:33
tchmnkyAs well as diskfree info06:33
likkashotnalioth not a msi k8n neo4 plat06:33
daffodiltchmnky: i had some c++ classes when i was doing mu undergrad, i don't remember define, if i recall, you have to define it's type, like text string int etc and then with the name and semicolon, like int daffodil;06:34
ubuntu_yo06:34
siimohe doesn't know warty? <siimo> warty <ubotu> Are you smoking crack?, siimo06:34
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ubuntu_can live cd write to ntfs?06:34
daffodiltchmnky: i just cracked it open and looked at some of the code, i might be able to figure it out later, but too tired to dig out my old book and find the variable and try to figure out what its type is06:34
siimosame with hoary too06:34
daffodilthis is a good place to stop :)06:34
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ubuntu_can live cd write to ntfs?06:34
simondoodhey has anyone noticed that gnomes netork interface and "/etc/init.d/networking start" just don't mix!06:34
GigaClonI don't think so06:35
siimoubunt_, its not stable yet to write ntfs06:35
zythubuntu_, writing to NTFS = Bad06:35
siimoopps wrong person06:35
tchmnkydaffodil, Ah. I just googled. constants have to have their type defined, so "const int daffodil = 42", but "#define DAFFODIL 42"06:35
simondoodif u start stop in gnome and then do try it in /etc/init.d/networking06:35
simondoodit stuff up06:35
daffodiltchmnky: i must never have gotten that far into it, LOL06:35
tchmnkydaffodil, I prefer higher level coding myself. Why reinvent the wheel?06:36
tchmnky:)06:36
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daffodiltchmnky: i just prefer my food science and playing with websites every now and then, LOL06:36
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simondoodseems like gnome takes control of eth 006:36
GigaClonI was using that live CD but I couldn't get internet to work06:36
Speckmadesomeone there who wants to help me with my problem with mounting my harddisk?06:36
likkashotany other chan to get help06:36
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siimolol dpkg bot is rather rude06:36
GigaCloni have a wireless card06:36
Speckmademe too...06:37
daffodili'm gonna call it a night now, i'll play with it more tomorrow, finally decided to have a somewhat normal weekend and not tinker in the lab the whole time06:37
daffodilhave a great night :)06:37
Amuroi did that thing in the restricted thing06:37
simondoodGigaClon, nomall network cards work instantly in linux ive found but wireless hmm don't know06:37
Amuroand it still wont let me sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree06:38
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tchmnkyAmuro, what is the output of this: sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep backports06:38
witlesshow does the ubuntu livecd boot - does it use grub?06:38
Amurohuh ichmky06:38
Amurotchmnky,06:38
likkashotsimondood do you qualify gigabit ethernet as normal06:38
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tchmnkyAmuro,  Paste that command into a terminal window, and then copy its output into the IRC window.06:39
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Amurodeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted06:39
tchmnkyAmuro, ok.06:40
tchmnkynow run sudo apt-get update06:40
tchmnkyand THEN it should work.06:40
Amurotchmnky,  can we take this to a pm?06:40
naliothubuntulog:so nobody but likkashot can tell me what mobo to get to plant 2 dual-cored AMD64 procs in?06:40
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nalioth<more needless flooding> so nobody but likkashot can tell me what mobo to get to plant 2 dual-cored AMD64 procs in?06:41
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likkashothehe06:41
likkashoti said not get06:41
naliothAmuro: have you enabled universe and multiverse?06:41
naliothlikkashot: yes, i got ya, no nforce boards06:41
siimoAmuro like i said all you had to do was enter one command:  "sudo echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse"  >> /etc/apt/sources.lst "06:42
simondoodlikkashot, hmm well ive never had internet that fast but ive had gigabit network cards configerd fine on linux just on a 10 mb nework06:42
likkashotIm realy sad u know06:42
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simondood(they wheren't wireless)06:42
likkashoti think ill put ubuntu on my p3 450 Im sure all will work06:43
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dr_willislikkashot,  i had it on a Pent100 :P06:43
naliothguess i'll just go to Frys and torture the (mostly) idiots in teh parts dept06:43
holycowlikkashot, it will be fine06:44
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likkashotI know hehe06:44
simondoodto the point I cant use /etc/init.d/networking start06:44
holycowjust make sure you have lots of ram to see performance improvement06:44
holycowand a newer hd if you can06:44
salrymanp/leave06:44
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naliothkvidell: i found a mac chatroom the other day, and the sunuvabitches only talked about windows06:44
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kvidelllol06:44
kvidellI'm trying to figure out how to remove dashboard widgets06:44
likkashotholycow my p350 is a server06:44
dr_willisranting about all the programs they cant run?06:44
likkashotfor test06:44
naliothkvidell: search for .widget (or whatever the suffix is)06:45
holycowlikkashot, use debian instead then ... you will geta  much larger set of apps with security patch support06:45
likkashoton this one or the p306:45
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kvidellah06:45
holycowif your setting up a server i meant06:46
likkashotok ok06:46
SpeckmadeHey, someone in the mood to help a poor newbie with his hardisk?06:46
likkashotsince my 2nd Nic card isnt working Im going to buy a 10/100/1000 switch06:47
naliothkvidell: then kill the main dashboard thing (on the dock <if its running>) and if ya really want rid of it, remove it from your apps folder06:47
likkashotthen its going to be nice06:47
aaronSpeckmade- what is your question?06:47
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kvidellcoo06:47
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kvidellJust needed to remove a few widgets I installed, hehe. Thanks :)06:47
naliothkvidell: i know a thing or two about macs (sometimes even 3 things)06:48
likkashotSo how does cedega work06:48
likkashotmy friend gave me a copy but I dont understand06:48
kvidellhehehe06:48
XenguyAnyone use Drupal here?06:48
naliothlikkashot: if you don't have a reciept from cedega, don't bother06:49
naliothlikkashot: you'll need their support to get it going06:49
likkashotdamn06:49
likkashotiwas going to pay but I dont have a CC06:49
likkashothehhe06:49
naliothlikkashot: you can run what you were given, but it works crazily, (imho)06:50
likkashotthank god I got a dualboot then06:50
naliothlikkashot: you a avid gamer?06:50
likkashotin my spare time06:50
naliothlikkashot: me too, and since i have no spare time, i have no winduhs box06:51
likkashotI got 3 boxs but no time06:51
likkashotI wish I had more then 3 months class on linux06:52
likkashotway more interesting then clicking in windows\06:53
dr_willisclass? :P06:53
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likkashotclass course whatever06:53
squinni love anime.06:53
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naliothlikkashot: you are formally trained in linux? i'm in awe06:54
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dr_willissquinn,  watcing 'scr-y-ed" now :P06:54
likkashoti did the basics in FC306:54
hondjehehe, the migra just raided my neighbors' apartment...imagine their surprise when they discovered the occupant is a 70 year old white woman :-D06:54
squinndr_willis, i'm watching my 7th episode of full metal alchemist in a row.06:54
likkashotnfs , samba , dns , dhcp ,httpd,06:55
squinni'm an anime novice -- so it's good watching this first seaosn06:55
squinnseason06:55
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likkashotonly command line06:55
naliothok guys/gals/trolls can anyone tell me where i can buy one of these? http://www.macpower.com.tw/products/hdd3/m9/m9dx06:55
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dr_willissquinn,  heh  - thats a neat show in ways... and odd in others. :P has very interesting plot and characters at least.06:55
likkashotafter 5 months its starting to come back06:55
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zythhondje, what is a migra?06:55
squinnyeah, dr_willis..it is06:55
vinuxhey guys how do I uninstall all dependices for a pkg in apt-get?06:55
squinnvery interesting06:55
squinnMigra, or la Migra, is a term used within Spanish Speaking immigrant communities in the United States as a way to refer to U.S. government entities or officials that enforce U.S. immigration laws, such as the Immigration and Naturalization Service. The word derives from the Spanish word migracin, which means immigration or migration in English., zyth06:56
hondjezyth: american immigration police06:56
naliothvinux: do you use synaptic?06:56
zythoh weird06:56
squinnthat's from wikipedia06:56
vinuxnalioth, hmm I can06:56
zythI don't think we have those in Canada.06:56
zythwell, obviously not US ones, but of any sort06:56
hondjesquinn: Ah, I was about to say ;-)06:56
naliothvinux: in syaptic is a "mark for complete removal" selection06:56
Micksaokay, so my xkb settings aren't loading. what should I be looking for?06:56
naliothvinux: when you clik on pkgs06:56
vinuxnalioth, ok cool thanks06:56
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iamnowhi06:56
Micksa(breezy)06:57
iamnowhow do i record using a bttvcard?06:57
siimoMicksa, i heard someone say X is borked in breezy06:57
Micksacan't be that borked06:57
squinnhondje, are you in like..Miami then?06:57
hondjesquinn: Pueblo, Colorado06:58
naliothMicksa: install it on a spare system (it'll be down mostly for a while)06:58
squinnOh, I see.06:58
Micksathis happened to me before, the solution was to symlink xkbcomp to the location where gnome was expecting to find it. wherever that was.06:58
Micksanalioth: breezy will be down?06:58
hondjesquinn: They've been going apeshit arresting people in this town for the last year or so, it's getting old06:58
naliothsquinn: there are illegales in more places you can imagine in the US06:58
naliothMicksa: /topic06:58
nalioth!breezy06:58
ubotuBreezy is due for release in October 2005  If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it (X is broken, and other important packages could be too)06:58
Micksaoopth06:58
Micksawell I'm just too hardcore then :)06:59
Micksashit.06:59
hondjenalioth: Pueblo is the only real city (100k people) in southern colorado, surrounded by farms, etc06:59
caonexanybody using xsane?06:59
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hondjePlus it's rather hispanic in makeup, I speak spanish daily, so the INS loves to come around :)06:59
Hajuuhey06:59
hondjeeasy way to meet quotas I guess :)06:59
zythI can't stand the sound of spoken spanish.  It's some weird personal idiosyncracy.  Of course, the Spanish population of this part of canada is nil, so whatever, but it's just odd.07:00
zythmakes my hair stand on end.07:00
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Hajuu/dev/hdb1/mnt/storageext3defaults00 --- I have this fstab entry... But it doesnt mount on startup... any ideas why? cfdisk just says that the "type" is "linux" so I just took a guess that it was ext3...07:00
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naliothzyth: yes, i'm sure its some weird variant spoken up there07:01
hondjeHajuu: I think you need auto w/ the defaults07:01
bl4cktoneMMMmmm chocolate chip cookies07:01
zythHajuu, won't mount w/o auto07:01
bl4cktoneCheese Cake07:01
HajuuAuto type?07:01
zythwell, not automatically :)07:01
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HajuuWhere do I put auto?07:01
bl4cktoneI want some Rocky Road Ice cream07:01
zyth/dev/hdd         /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 ro,user,auto  0 007:02
zythis an example07:02
naliothHajuu: make it say "blah blah defaults,auto blah blah07:02
ninwablah blah.07:03
vinuxhmm I'm installing nessus from synaptic and it says it's configuring and it could take awhile. And boy is it taking awhile07:03
Hajuu/dev/hdb1       /mnt/storage  auto    defaults        0    0 -- Like that?07:03
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zythI think you need commas between auto and defaults but yes07:04
naliothHajuu: there must be a comma and no spaces between defaults and auto07:04
hondjeHajuu: you want options all together w/ only a comma, like auto,defaults07:04
HajuuAuto and defaults are meant to be two seperate things...07:04
HajuuIf I make them one, I dont have enough paramaters07:04
Hajuu# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>07:04
Hajuu/dev/hdb1       /mnt/storage  auto    defaults        0    007:04
zythuh07:04
zythyes07:04
hondjeHajuu: seriously, that's how it works... auto,noexec,rw,users ,etc07:04
zythwhat fs type?07:05
zythext3?07:05
likkashotwhat good rar app around07:05
HajuuLike I said, cfdisk just says "linux" but I assume ext307:05
zyth/dev/hdb1       /mnt/storage   ext3   auto,defaults        0     007:05
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ninwalikkashot: unrar does it07:05
naliothlikkashot: bzip207:05
likkashotcool thanks07:05
zythyou have to specify FS type07:05
vinuxok guys I just needed to hit terminal button in synaptic and awnser a few question now it's configured07:06
Hajuuhmm?07:06
simondoodheyum07:06
rob_i am trying to install gnucash-1.8.11 and cant07:06
simondoodhi07:07
rob_hi07:07
naliothrob_: how are you trying and what is the problem?07:07
Hajuuzyth:  What do you mean?07:07
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zythHajuu, use this line: /dev/hdb1       /mnt/storage   ext3   auto,defaults        0     007:07
Hajuuthats what ive got07:07
zythrob_, did you use Synaptic to install it?07:07
Hajuubut how can I check what type the partition is?07:07
hondjeHajuu: okay, once that's in run 'mount -a'07:07
hondjeHajuu: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda07:08
hondjeor hdb, etc07:08
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rob_tried apt-get and not found, then tried to download from server and system could not recognize07:08
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naliothrob download from what server?07:08
naliothrob_: have you enabled universe and multiverse?07:08
HajuuThat doesnt tell me, hondje.. Just displays the usage information.07:09
Hajuuoh my bad07:09
rob_Synaptic did not have that version07:09
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Hajuu   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System07:09
Hajuu/dev/hdb1               1       19846    10002383+  82  Linux swap / Solaris07:09
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HajuuSo.. what type does that make it?07:09
hyapadihow to turn off the dma in cdrom?07:09
hondjeswap07:09
zyththat makes it your swap partition, I think.07:10
hondjehyapadi: sudo hdparm -d0 /dev/cdrom07:10
naliothrob_: so you have universe and mulitivers?07:10
rob_cnu cash07:10
zythso that's not the drive you want mounted :)07:10
dr_williswhy would ya want to turn it off? :P07:10
hyapadihondje, thx07:10
rob_yes enabled07:10
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DanielCHelp. When I try to remove mozila-firefox-gnome-support Synaptic says that it must remove ubuntu-desktop. That can't be right.07:10
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Hajuuzyth:  It is.. because ive been mounting it using mount up till now.. Just trying to automate it.07:10
rob_yes07:10
Micksathere, fixed :)07:10
MicksaI AM INVINCIBLE07:10
hondjeDanielC: that's okay dude07:10
hondjeDanielC: that's just a meta package, no biggie07:11
DanielChondje: it is?07:11
naliothrob_: and the version on the repos is too old?07:11
zythHajuu, what have you been mounting, /dev/hdb1 ?07:11
Hajuuyep.07:11
rob_yes07:11
DanielChondje: phew! thanks.07:11
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ubotuROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT has landed!07:11
hondjeDanielC: yeah, it exists so you can do 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' and get all the pkgs, but removing it doesn't do the reverse07:11
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zythHajuu, and it's FS type 82... er...07:11
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naliothrob_: so waht happens when you d/l from the gnucash homepage?07:11
hondje82 is swap07:11
zyththat's Linux swap.  I dunno.  Weird.07:11
Hajuuthats what it says.07:11
HajuuWell im storing stuff on it.07:11
hondjefdisk don't lie07:11
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Hajuueh.07:11
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HajuuIf its working..07:12
Hajuuthen im happy.07:12
hondjehrm, I'd not store and fix that first, myself07:12
hondjebut your data, your call ;-)07:12
HajuuIts been working fine for weeks.07:12
rob_it downloads and extracts but it cannot execute07:12
lancer285can someone help me w/ my sound problem?07:12
HajuuBUT! That doesnt help. What should I put type as in my fstab?07:12
naliothrob_: what d/l and extracts?07:13
zythwell, see, if it's swap, you'd put swap, but then it'll mount it as swap... so I couldn't tell you07:13
lancer285Cedega won't reconize my sound system cause its esd and not Alsa or OSS07:13
hondjeyeah, zyth speaks truth07:13
shrayhi07:13
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hondjeI'd really fix that soon07:13
Hajuulancer285:  run "killall esd" before you run cedega07:13
HajuuThat should get your sound going.07:13
shrayhow cna I install reiser4 on my ubuntu ?07:13
lancer285okay07:13
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rob_the cnucash-1.8.1107:13
microhaxowtf07:13
microhaxoCEDEGA IS PURE bs07:14
microhaxowont even run CSS07:14
HajuuI dont particularly care... There doesnt seem to be anything wrong with it.. It stores my data.. Doesn't ever erase it... mounts fine...07:14
naliothrob_: do you know how to compile software?07:14
Hajuuso.07:14
rob_no07:14
hondjeHajuu: as long as it's unimportant, or you have backups, carry on07:14
rob_lol07:14
Hajuucedega is good.07:14
hondjedidn't even know you could do that, so wtf do I know :)07:14
shrayhondje is wise07:14
shraydont be so humble07:14
Hajuuhondje:  heh yeah. Thats just what cfdisk created for my by default.07:14
hondjethank you shray :)07:14
Hajuu*me07:15
Hajuucan I have fstab autodetect for me?07:15
Hajuu(the type, that is)07:15
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hondjeHajuu: mount does that by default if you don't specify fs07:15
byronsaltyhi I have a question about mounting network drives07:15
HajuuNice.07:15
microhaxoCedega sucks07:15
hondjeHajuu: I'd 'assume' automount would do the same07:15
microhaxoi sat at the damn CSS screen for over 30 min07:15
microhaxoit wont move07:15
microhaxolol07:15
microhaxoit sucks07:15
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HajuuCSS?07:16
rob_i got it recognized by 'run application but thats all07:16
Hajuuas in HTML/CSS?07:16
Micksais there a way to create a new (desktop-global) keyboard shortcut?07:16
byronsaltyI finally have multiple limux comps and I want to have them share drives with my server07:16
microhaxoCounter STrike source07:16
Micksalike, one that runs a certain command?07:16
HajuuOh.07:16
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HajuuUhm07:16
Hajuumeh07:16
microhaxomeh07:16
microhaxothats bs07:16
hondjebyronsalty: I use NFS07:16
squinnyeah07:16
squinni thought he meant cascading style sheets07:16
byronsaltyeverything I see from google talks about windows and samba...07:16
hondjebyronsalty: Easy to set up, easy to secure, fast and stable, etc07:16
hondjeNFS through ssh tunnel makes hondje a happy puppy07:16
byronsaltyok I check that out when by box comes back up07:17
squinni always see counterstrike source as cs:s07:17
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hondjecs:s and hl2 run randomly with cedega07:17
hondjeEither they'll run perfectly, or not at all07:18
zythWoW runs well07:18
lancer285wow run really well07:18
ninwazyth: Last time I tried the lighting was fubar.07:18
ninwabut otherwise ran superbly07:18
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Hajuu# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>07:18
Hajuu/dev/hdb1       /mnt/storage          auto,defaults        0    007:18
HajuuI cant Leave filesystem empty.. cause then it reads "defaults" as the filesystem type...07:18
zythninwa, use opengl07:18
hondjeHajuu: just leave it with what was working, and seriously consider fixing it...use gparted or smoething, it's friendly and easy way to reformat that partition ext307:19
ninwazyth: Thats probably what it was, I'll have to put ubuntu on my big machine and give it another roll then eh? :] 07:19
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Hajuuhondje:  The thing is that it wasnt working.. cause I hadnt made an fstab entry for it yet.07:19
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zythninwa, yep :)07:19
Hajuuso..07:19
hondjeI can't bear to watch this :-(07:19
HajuuI dont want to have to mount it every restart.07:19
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Hajuulol07:20
hondjeI'm serious, it gives me major creepies07:20
hondjebut I also make daily backups and stuff07:20
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Hajuucan I convert its type without formatting?07:20
Hajuucause I cant backup07:20
Hajuuno free space07:20
hondjeHajuu: hrm07:20
hondjeHajuu: this is such a crazy topic, I'll ask a smart guy07:21
HajuuI mean its expendable coz its all on cd.. but thats a bit of a pain in the ass.07:21
Hajuuhehe ok07:21
Hajuuwhat type should I change it to? cant see ext3 in the list in cfdisk07:21
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AmaranthHajuu: You probably need to scroll down.07:22
kikkomanwhere is a good place to get mplayer?07:22
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ubotuROOOOOOOT has landed!07:22
shrayhi07:22
shrayi r root07:22
tchmnkykikkoman, www.mplayerhq.hu :)07:22
shraywhats up homeslice07:22
tchmnkyThere or apt-get. ;)07:22
Micksathe keyboard shortcuts control panel is in desperate need of a "revert" button07:22
shraybreathe stretch shake let it go07:22
HajuuAmaranth:  Nah. There is no scrolling.. Just one screen.07:23
hondjeMicksa: good call07:23
shraymah homebuntoos07:23
kikkomani tried to do apt-get but it says it can't find it =/07:23
shraywhats going on07:23
shrayi have some advice for yalls07:23
hondjeHajuu: I'm thinking there's no way to do that, man07:23
HajuuI can I belive07:23
shrayfight the man!07:23
shrayman = BSD07:23
HajuuI just need to know the code07:23
Hajuu(id)07:23
hondjeBut you'd have to ask Hans Reiser or something to get a real answer, thats' just too crazy ;)07:23
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Hajuulook up the id for ext3 for me07:24
davehi.  i juxg installed hoary.  I have a prob with 2.6 kernel and my mouse going crazy.   Have searched maillists to no avail.  Anyone else know of this issue?07:24
shray8107:24
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Hajuuin your fdisk or whatever07:24
shray8207:24
shray8307:24
Hajuu81?07:24
shray8107:24
shray=)07:24
Hajuuright.. this lists that as minix / old linux07:24
shrayoh thats nub07:24
shraytry 8207:24
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Hajuu82 is swap ;)07:24
shray8307:24
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Hajuuwhich is what im using.07:24
stjepanhello07:24
Hajuuthere is no 8307:24
shrayyou need to upgrade to gentoo then07:24
shrayyour system is deprecated07:25
stjepanHow can I run ede(equinox desktop environment)?07:25
Hajuu...07:25
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Hajuuyour an idiot.07:25
shrayyou mean "you're" ?07:25
vHintswendon't call me a idiot07:25
HajuuYes.07:25
vHintswenoh not me...07:25
HajuuvHintswen:  Not you.07:25
stjepanI should type startede in terminal07:25
Hajuuheh07:25
stjepanso07:25
shray[o,0] 07:25
vHintsweni just assumed it was cause i am...07:25
stjepanthere is an error: another wm is running07:25
Hajuuhaha07:25
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vladuz976hey, how come ubuntu has only one installation cd?07:25
stjepanI do not know how to run it07:25
vladuz976why so small?07:25
stjepanplease help07:26
crimsunvalaxer: because it was designed to fit on one.07:26
shrayvladuz976: its leet like tat07:26
manyone know the name of the program that is installed w/gnome that allows you to RDP to a windows comp?07:26
tchmnkyvlc?07:26
tchmnkyvNC. I mean07:26
vladuz976shray,  fedora has 4?07:26
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vladuz976that is a huge difference07:26
shrayvladuz976: the bigger the better07:26
_paxless is more.07:26
mno.... its like gnome desktop remote or somethin07:27
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fazerHas anyone here installed mwavem in Ubuntu?07:27
HajuuUhm07:27
HajuuThis is getting crazy07:27
HajuuNow fdisk says that my disk doesnt contain a valid partition table...07:28
HajuuBUT07:28
vladuz976shray, no seriously? what is the difference?07:28
HajuuI can access all my stuff and mount it no worries.07:28
Hajuu:/07:28
stjepannobady?07:28
stjepannobody?07:28
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mTerminal Service Client, is the name but does anyone know what package its in?07:29
vinuxstjepan, are you already running a wm?07:29
Micksastjepan: it would appear that nobody here knows about this "ede" you speak of.07:30
naliothok guys/gals/trolls can anyone tell me where i can buy one of these? http://www.macpower.com.tw/products/hdd3/m9/m9dx07:30
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DanielCHelp. None of my Firefox dialogs work. They all give an error of the form "XML Parsing error ... chrome://browser/content/pref/pref.xul ... root.localname = prefElements[i] .localName;"07:30
DanielCI triend uninstalling firefox, and re-installing, but it didn't help. A locate on pref.xul turns up nothing. :(07:30
stjepanvinux: yes07:30
DanielCDang, my internet connection just had a hiccup. I hope I didn't miss any responses.07:30
ninwaDanielC: Nope.07:30
vinuxstjepan, usally when I install a wm I have to logout then choose my wm at the login screen. If you are running ubuntu in xdm07:31
tchmnkyDanielC, doesn't look like you ever left. :-/07:31
DanielCok07:31
stjepanvinux: there isn't EDE at login screen :(07:31
vinuxstjepan, hmmmm EDE what does that stand for?07:32
Micksais there some way to assign shortcut keys to panel launchers that I don't know about?...07:32
ninwaMicksa: If there is, let me know.07:33
vinuxstjepan, oh ok I just found it07:33
Micksaheh07:33
Micksacrap07:33
hondjeThat's it, I'm canning firefox07:33
ninwahondje: What's wrong with it?07:33
hondjeslow piece of buggy excrement07:33
vinuxstjepan, hmmm I would google that question07:33
Micksamozilla is much better!!!!07:33
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vinuxstjepan, put error msg in google search window07:33
ninwahondje: I'll agree it can be slow sometimes, I've been looking for an even liter browser...07:34
hondjeninwa: I have some evil firefox thing, I get regular (and reproducable) segfaults, 2+ minute page rendering times, eats up CPU....07:34
hondjeninwa: I'm going to ephiphany, seems nice07:34
hondje-h07:34
Micksa"ephipany"07:34
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hondjeMicksa is the man on the spot ;-)07:34
Micksaheh, that was quick07:34
Micksasay what?07:34
Amurotchmnky07:34
hondjeI've spent hours trying to figure out wtf is wrong with my computer and ubuntu firefox, I give up07:34
Micksahow has it been playing up?07:35
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ninwaI think you mean epiphany, I'll have to give it a try too.07:35
hondjeninwa: that's the one07:35
ninwaFirefox works great for me on Windows... not so much on Linux for some reason.07:36
stjepanoh07:36
hondjeMaybe I'll roll up my own firefox pkg, see if that works..nothing else does07:36
dr_willisHmm.. cant say that ive had any problems with firefox at all. :O07:36
hondjedr_willis: You make me jealous :P07:36
stjepanhow can I do startx and after that do startede07:36
onecoldpenguinHi.  Anyone know of a fix for erratic mouse with 2.6 kernel?  Can't find any fixes in web maillists07:36
stjepan?07:36
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dr_willishondje,  thers a firefox.autopackage  :P could try it.07:36
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naliothFirefox is bloated, swollen, mem.....07:37
hondjeLets say I click on a slashdot topic, a big one like 1000 comments....firefox will lose everything but the frame, run up 100% cpu and stay like that for 2 or 3 minutes, on modern hardware07:37
ninwa-ory leaked...07:37
hondjeand don't even TRY opening 200 tabs07:37
ninwaBecause you know, we all open 200 tabs regularly.07:37
vinuxhehehe07:37
hondjeI do :(07:38
naliothmy firefox OPENS with 200 tabs... don't all of you start your browsing session with 200 sites?07:38
ninwaHehe07:38
hondjeIf you can't browse pron, then what's your computer for?07:38
Micksa200 tabs?07:38
ninwaMine opens to google.com/ig07:38
Micksaif you want to open 200 web pages at once you're asking for it ;)07:38
Micksaone big page, on the other hand, shouldn't be a problem.07:38
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Micksahonje: got a url for us to try? one that crashes your firefox?07:39
tchmnkyninwa, /ig ?07:39
hondjewell, crashes are different, but I can grab one for you Micksa07:39
ninwatchmnky: Yep, check it out :)07:39
vladuz976can anybody tell me where i can learn how to use apt-get07:39
MicksaI mean, like how you described :)07:39
ninwayou type apt-get install [file] 07:39
hondjehttp://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/16/1618241&tid=179&tid=307:39
ninwaor apt-get remove [file] 07:40
naliothhondje: btw, page 10 didnt crash my ggv07:40
ninwaor rather, package07:40
ninwatada!07:40
Micksawith the 1000 comment slashdot page07:40
hondjenalioth: hrm, thanks man :-)07:40
tchmnkyninwa, OH. Sorry. I'm lame this morning.Yeah. Personalised Google is pretty cool. :)07:40
ninwaEasy fix to that07:40
Micksahondje: are you saying the page *eventually* loads?07:40
ninwadon't browse at -107:40
vladuz976what if i don't know the exact package name?07:40
ninwatchmnky: :)07:40
Micksaor sits there forever?07:40
hondjeMicksa: yes, after a long time07:40
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ninwavladuz976: check out apt-get --help07:40
Micksacan't grab the url till it's loaded? :)07:40
hondjeright click, save the url :)07:41
hondjeer, copy07:41
naliothvladuz976: use synaptic07:41
Micksaalso, what sane reason would you have to open 200 tabs at once? :)07:41
ninwabut yes, I suggest using synaptic07:41
hondjeMicksa: rss, 'open in tabs07:41
vladuz976what is synaptiv07:41
vladuz976synaptic07:41
vinuxI'm hungry07:42
ninwaIt's a gui package manager, its in System->Administration07:42
Micksahonjde: but what are you going to do with those 200 tabs when you've loaded them? :)07:42
hondjeMicksa: http://www.hondje.net/~hondje/Screenshot-1.png07:42
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hondjeThat's on the second desktop, but xchat and the terminal are on the first desktop...07:42
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vladuz976ninwa, how is it different from apt-get?07:42
vladuz976i always here how good apt-get is07:43
hondjeand note the CPU meter maxed out :-/ all firefox does is sit in a frame, and I've done reinstalls and the like out the wazoo07:43
ninwavladuz976: It uses apt-get07:43
ninwabut you can search for packages07:43
ninwaand browse them in a gui07:43
Micksahondje: you should have said "say cheese"07:43
naliothvladuz976: you get all the apt-get goodness, with a nice gui frontend with synaptic07:43
bl4cktoneguys, I was installing things just fine but I ran into a snag07:43
vladuz976cool07:43
hondjeMicksa: hehe07:43
ninwahondje: We should be friends, I have a .net too! ninwa.net ~ and hey I'm in your screenshot! (amused easily at wee night hours)07:43
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hondjeMicksa: to make matters worse, I've found a few things that everytime I do, I segfault...but the cores don't tell me anything useful :)07:44
Micksahaha07:44
MicksaRBAK eh07:44
bl4cktoneapt-get  is telling me I have unmet dependencies and it seems to be stopping me from installing anything else07:44
hondjelike, trying to import bookmarks...BAM!07:44
hondjeninwa: hehe07:44
naliothbl4cktone: "sudo apt-get -f install"07:44
hondjeMicksa: heh, gotta see where the money is disappearing to ;-)07:44
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naliothbl4cktone: are you using backports?07:44
Micksahondje: is this the standard ubuntu firefox you're using?07:44
xedHey!07:44
hondjeMicksa: yep, not backports or from deb-src or anything07:44
Micksahoaru?07:45
hondjeyes07:45
Micksahoary?07:45
Micksaokay, well I'm not using hoary myself but I'll have a play and see what happens :)07:45
hondjeI've install --reinstall mozilla-firefox, remove --purge and then reinstall, etc07:45
Micksafeel free to submit a bug report.07:45
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xedI just downloaded Ubuntu 5.04, burned it...and whatnot.. and so I put it into the PC, and it goes to boot up.. it says "Boot failed; press a key to retry..."07:45
ryan__I'm having some difficulties dealing with getting madwifi to work, could anybody be of any help?07:45
xedAnd after I do that, it just restarts itself a few times..and goes back to that screen.07:45
hondjeMicksa: I've dropped one, all the core I get say basically the same thing....but I'm convinced it's a local issue07:45
ninwahodje: what theme/icon set is that? Looks sleak.07:46
bl4cktonenalioth yes I just did what you said it was reading stuff off the cd and maybe did it?07:46
hondjeninwa: amaranth07:46
Micksasounds fun.07:46
hondjeninwa: with gartoon icons07:46
Micksayou could re-install ubuntu :)07:46
xedWho wants to help me what my issue here?07:46
xedIt'll be a game..!07:46
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hondjeMicksa: Pardon me sir, but that's worse than rebooting!07:46
Micksaalso you could try starting from a clean ~/.mozilla/firefox directory07:46
vinuxhondje, very wierd I'm having no problems here with firefox. Hmmm well right now i'm using just mozilla07:46
ninwaxed: Shoot.07:46
naliothbl4cktone: you tell us07:46
hondjevinux: No one seems to have these problems...it's all very odd :(07:46
bl4cktonenalioth I'm using the repositories on unofficial ubuntu 5.04 starter guide07:47
ninwahondje: Do you have the latest version? (brain-dead question)07:47
hondjeninwa: latest ubuntu version, yes07:47
naliothbl4cktone: and that is your problem07:47
naliothbl4cktone: stick with official ubuntu repos07:47
Micksahondje: got a url yet?07:47
hondjeI'll try apt-get source -b, and then make my own deb from official firefox....but if that doesn't help, I'll just have to switch :(07:47
vinuxhondje, you can try mozilla instead of firefox. I still have mplayer plugins for mozilla so I can see movies :)07:47
vladuz976niwa, there is new firefox out but synaptic doesn't show that07:47
hondjeMicksa: yeah, took about 1.5 mins07:47
naliothbl4cktone: backports and marillat can cause this problem(s)07:47
Micksapaste it07:47
vladuz976how do i update it, on the web it says to use apt-get or synaptic07:48
hondjevinux: hrm, mozilla....oddly it's faster than Mr. Lightweight Firefox these days, isn't it? :)07:48
MicksaI doubt compiling firefox yourself will help07:48
thoreauputicbl4cktone: ubuntuguide is Ok but tsome of the advice there is... erm... inaccurate07:48
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Micksait would probably be a messed up07:48
vinuxhondje, well to tell you the truth it seems so07:48
ninwavladuz976: The ubuntu repositories are always behind, this is because they want you to have stable software versus "bleeding edge" buggy software. You can easily visit www.firefox.com and download the latest build and install it, however.07:48
Micksait would probably be a messed up ~/.mozilla dir, or a messed up library config07:49
hondjeMicksa: I agree, it's some local setting I'm sure, though I did rule out it being the ko l18n stuff07:49
bl4cktonenalioth yeah things are working now,  I kinda need a guide like it  seeing as I'm a complete n00b at linux07:49
ryan__Does anyone here have any experience dealing with madwifi?07:49
Micksahas your install been through any interesting experiences?07:49
ninwaMy wifi is generally happy.07:49
ninwaNot mad.07:49
Micksae.g. did you upgrade from warty to hoary?07:49
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ninwa*dun dun tsch*07:49
Micksahondje: oi, where's the url? :)07:49
ryan__:)07:49
hondjeMicksa: No, nothing like that at all....I installed hoary fresh the day it came out and got rid of Sid07:49
naliothbl4cktone: as thoreauputic said, a lot of things on the 'guide are <cough> inaccurate07:49
tchmnky"but at least they are 'definitively inaccurate'." ;)07:50
hondjeMicksa: for the one I was using for an example?07:50
Micksayeah07:50
MicksaI wanna try it07:50
naliothbl4cktone: i recommend you edit your sources.list and comment out the unofficial repos07:50
tchmnkyAnd in the most severe cases of discrepancy it's always Reality taht's got it wrong. ;)07:50
hondjeMicksa: http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/16/1618241&tid=179&tid=307:50
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Micksahmm, my firefox had no problem with it.07:51
hondjeMicksa: but yeah, I don't do much crazy with my desktop, I'm a stability freak07:51
Micksaabout 5 seconds.07:51
Micksado you have mozilla installed?07:52
hondjeMicksa: yeah, and firefox over ssh -X from the sarge box at my feet is just as fast as it should be :(07:52
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Micksatry the same url in mozilla and see what happens/.07:52
hondjeMicksa: good thinking, I'll apt it up07:52
Micksaalso, if you still have that page up, could you take another SS for me?07:52
hondjeMicksa: when it's loaded?07:53
Micksayeah.07:53
hondjeMicksa: It renders fine07:53
MicksaI wanna double-check that I'm loading the same amount as you :)07:53
xedninwa: I just downloaded Ubuntu 5.04, burned it...and whatnot.. and so I put it into the PC, and it goes to boot up.. it says "Boot failed; press a key to retry..."07:53
bl4cktonenalioth I"m in my sources.list right now but not sure what you mean, just change it back the way it was?07:53
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hondjeMicksa: ah, give me 1.5 mins for it to load ;-)07:53
orangeyhey all!07:53
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orangeyhow do I set up a network connection with ubuntu?07:53
Hajuuok07:53
HajuuI ended up formatting my drive07:53
HajuuNow its id 8307:54
Hajuuwhat type is that?07:54
hondje83 is ext3 iirc07:54
Hajuuwell...07:54
hondjebut I partition once, use for two years, certainly no expert07:54
xedninwa: still there?07:54
thoreauputicHajuu: it's linux native (ext2 or ext3)07:54
vladuz976niwa, if i wanna get xine and all dependecies in synaptic how do you do that?07:54
thoreauputic82 is swap07:54
quameh, my linux partition is ext3, but when ubuntu boots up it says it's ext2 :P07:54
Hajuumy fdisk says its id is 83... but my fstab where I say its ext3 says that it cannot find an ext3 on that device...07:55
hondjeMicksa: still loading :-/07:55
thoreauputicvladuz976: sudo apt-get install xine-ui07:55
Micksabetter still07:55
ninwaxed: Yeah sorry, I'm here.07:55
Amuroi need to play movies and music from a mounted hard drive, how would i do this? because when i try to open them it wont let me07:55
thoreauputicor totem-xine if you prefer07:55
Micksabring up the page info and tell me the size07:55
vladuz976what is the ui for?07:55
hondjeHajuu: you can go ext3 from ext2 w/out dataloss07:55
ninwaxed: Don't know what's wrong though.07:55
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MicksaI get 36KB07:55
Amuroi need to play movies and music from a mounted hard drive, how would i do this? because when i try to open them it wont let me07:55
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Hajuuhondje:  heh meh doesnt matter now.. all formatted...07:56
hondjeHajuu: ah :)07:56
thoreauputicvladuz976: user interface? xine-ui is the standard one, totem-xine uses a totem front end07:56
Hajuuoh I know the problem.. I havent run mkfs on it yet.07:56
ninwavladuz976: I would suggest mplayer, but you hit search and type xine... then right click on the one you want and hit mark for installation, then hit applhy.07:56
ninwaapply*07:56
ninwaIt will worry about the dependencies for you.07:56
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Hajuuwtf07:57
HajuuSomething.. dodgy going on07:57
ninwaWith?07:57
Hajuuok so am I correct in assuming that once I have used fdisk to make my partition, I need to run "mkfs" on that created partition in order for it to be recognised?07:58
Amurohow do i install mplayer07:58
Amuroalso need to install all codects possible07:58
thoreauputic!restricted07:58
ubotuit has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:58
thoreauputicAmuro: read that07:58
xedGuess I'll try another distro on that PC then..07:59
AmuroI read that07:59
Amuro1-307:59
vladuz976niwa, synaptic only gives me libxine1 and libxine-dev and libxinerama, does that include the ui?07:59
hondjeMicksa: moz works like a pro07:59
hondjeoh man that feels so good07:59
hondjebye bye firefox07:59
Micksaheh08:00
hondjewelcome back, you rascally seamonkey08:00
ninwaI'm having a problem with epiphany.08:00
ninwaComplains about...08:00
naliothninwa: use galeon08:00
ninwaGNOME_Epiphany_Automation.server file08:00
hondjegaleon is still around?08:00
Micksahondje: what's the page size?...08:00
vinuxAmuro, I use this to install all my stuff ----> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/08:00
hondjeMicksa: 35.79 KB08:01
Micksaokay.08:01
hondjein moz, at least08:01
Micksathat really shouldn't take 2 mins08:01
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hondjeyeah, not on a 2.7GHz p408:01
vladuz976hey there, i can't even mark stuff for installation it needs depeneccies? how can i resolve those08:02
thoreauputicAmuro: you need to read the whole page - for instance you might want to look at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/  for codecs etc08:02
ninwa2.7ghz? Pfft!08:02
ninwaI'm on a 600Mhz and Ubuntu is SCREAMING08:02
ninwa:o)08:02
hondje:-)08:02
ninwa(screaming, "give me more processor power :( ") but thats not the point08:02
hondjeMicksa: 51.75 KB in firefox08:02
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hondjeif you have enough ram, 600MHz is plenty08:02
hondjegnome loves ram08:02
ninwaYep, 512Mb of ram08:02
ninwaits my thinkpad08:03
ninwamy main pc is 2Ghz... I really do need a new pc08:03
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hondjewow08:03
hondjethen again, once upon a time I had a p2 250MHz w/ 64mb running KDE08:04
thoreauputicthe trick is choosing light apps08:04
naliothvladuz976: have you enabled universe and multiverse?08:04
xedthe trick is crying to your computer and begging it to have mercy08:04
hondjethat was right before KDE2 came out though, so awhile ago ;-)08:04
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vladuz976nalioth, where do u enable them?08:05
nalioth!Restricted08:05
ubotuwell, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:05
naliothvladuz976: read waht ubotu said08:05
Amuroi duno how to install mplayer08:06
Amuroliek08:06
Amurohow i compile08:06
Amuro:\08:06
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Amuroi have gcc and G++ installed08:06
vladuz976yes, but in synaptic how do i add those08:06
vladuz976i heard that it is not supported08:06
bob2Amuro: why compile it? mplayer is in ubuntu already.08:06
thoreauputicAmuro: you don't - you enable multiverse and sudo apt-get install mplayer08:06
naliothvladuz976: i don't know anything about synaptic, i use the terminal08:06
Amurosudo apt-get install mplayer08:07
Amuroerr08:07
AmuroE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:07
AmuroE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:07
bob2Amuro: there you go08:07
vladuz976nalioth, ok so how can i install xine with all its dependencies using apt-get?08:07
bob2Amuro: close whatever other package management program you have open08:07
naliothAmuro: only one apt can run at a time (or you must use sudo)08:07
vladuz976sudo apt-get install xine doesn't work08:07
bob2vladuz976: gxine08:08
naliothvladuz976: you need universe and multiverse for some codecs08:08
thoreauputicvladuz976: xine-ui08:08
vladuz976also doesn't work08:08
thoreauputicor gxine or totem-xine08:08
vladuz976says, can't find package08:08
thoreauputic!repositories08:08
ubotumethinks repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:08
vladuz976how do i get universe08:08
thoreauputicvladuz976: read ubotu's URL08:08
naliothvladuz976: what ubotu said08:08
AmuroReading package lists... Done08:08
AmuroBuilding dependency tree... Done08:08
AmuroE: Couldn't find package 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu608:08
Amuro:\08:09
hondjebah, between firefox and evolution, I'm getting two kinds of sad....oh well, beats running the alternatives08:09
thoreauputicAmuro: <cough> please read above08:09
AmuroI DID THAT08:09
Amuroalrdy08:09
Amuroit wont let me install mplayer thru syn08:09
Amurocuz it says somthing08:09
bob2Amuro: whatever command you ran was wrong08:09
Amurocrappy08:09
thoreauputicAmuro: did you update / reload08:09
naliothAmuro: are you sure?08:09
Amuroyessss08:09
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Amuroi get this error thru syn08:10
Amuromplayer-386:08:10
Amuro Depends: libsvga1  but it is not installable or08:10
Amuro svgalib-dummyg1  but it is not installable08:10
thoreauputicAmuro: do you have 3rd perty sources like backports or marillat?08:10
thoreauputic*party08:10
kikkomanhi, im getting a message saying that i can't upgrade mozzilla. it's also saying its being held back08:11
nalioththoreauputic: perty is a word in Texas08:11
bob2kikkoman: when doing what?08:11
Amurobackports?08:11
Amuromarillat08:11
Amuroi duno08:11
Amuroi did what it said08:11
bob2Amuro: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood08:11
Amurofrom seciton 1-308:11
thoreauputicAmuro: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in #flood, please08:11
kikkomanubuntu update manager its saying "it is not possible to upgrade all packages"08:11
thoreauputicbob2: ;)08:12
bob2kikkoman: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood08:12
xedhow do I define a root file system when installing?08:12
bob2xed: the partman stage does that08:12
xedYeah, I'm there right now08:12
xedI have 3 partitions, which I created earlier using system rescue disc.08:12
Amuroxed08:12
bob2xed: select a partition, mark it as the root partition08:12
bob2Amuro: edit that file and get rid of the "backports" line08:13
Amuroi cant edit it08:13
Amuroits read only08:13
bob2Amuro: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list08:13
bob2(in a terminal)08:13
xedbob2: how do I mark it as a root partition?08:13
bob2xed: select it.08:13
xedand then?08:14
Amurobob2,08:14
bob2and then mark it as the root partition08:14
Amuroi dont see no backports line08:14
bob216:12:50          Amuro |  deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted08:14
bob2Amuro: that one08:14
Amurok08:14
Amurodone08:14
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xedI'm not installing the latest version of Ubuntu, bob2.08:15
bob2xed: that's awesome, but doesn't matter08:15
xedBy "Select" you mean press enter when its highlighted08:15
bob2yes08:15
xedthen it tells me to "Format the partiton using ..." and it gives me like 3 or 4 options08:15
bob2well, keep looking, the option is there08:15
xedSomething about use it as a physical volume for LVM.. and something about RAID...08:15
xed...08:15
bob2er, youy haven't put a filesystem on them yet?08:16
bob2Amuro: run 'sudo apt-get update'08:16
Amurodid that08:16
Amurobob2,08:16
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thoreauputicAmuro: your universe lines look wrong as well, some things are commented out others not: I would personally run " sudo apt-setup " and re-edit the file08:16
bob2I wish you'd stop putting my name on an empty line08:16
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arschhi08:17
xedokay okay okay08:17
xedI got it..08:17
xednoatil or something..08:17
kikkomanbob i posted my source list on #flood08:17
bob2kikkoman: get rid of the backports lines08:17
bob2xed: that only matters for reiser08:17
xedthats the one I'm using.08:18
arschi tried to get the gnome-power-manager to wrok, but he tells me, that  libdbus-glib-1.so.1 is missing08:18
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xedI was told it was faster for desktops/servers.08:18
bob2ouch08:18
xedbad idea?08:18
kikkomanok08:18
Whistlerhi evetybody08:18
bob2in some cases08:18
xedhow come bob2?08:18
Whistler*everybody08:18
bob2how come what?08:18
xedwhy.. would it be a bad idea in some cases?08:18
vinuxWhistler, hello :)08:18
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Amurothoreauputic, pm?08:18
bob2because when it screws up, it tends to screw up badly08:18
xedoh08:18
xedpoooop08:19
Whistlerany recommendations for php editor for ubuntu?08:19
arsch libdbus-glib-1.so.1 ?08:19
bob2arsch: http://packages.ubuntu.com/08:19
j-rockWhistler: vim08:19
thoreauputicAmuro: keep it in channel - more people can learn and help08:19
Amurookkk08:19
vinuxWhistler, what's a php? :)08:19
Amuroran that thing08:19
Amurothe apt-setup thing08:19
thoreauputicAmuro: choose http08:19
Amurok08:19
Amurodone08:20
Amuronow what08:20
Amuroafter its done08:20
arschi cant thind it08:20
arschfind08:20
Whistlervinux its a hyper text procesor08:20
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Whistleror smt like that08:20
bob2arsch: then it's not in ubuntu08:20
Whistler=] 08:20
thoreauputicAmuro: now edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment lines beginning with "deb"08:20
arschits not an package08:20
vinuxWhistler, cool08:20
bob2arsch: yes, I know, it's a file08:20
thoreauputicAmuro: sudo gedit as before08:20
arschits part of the dbus-glib package, but i already got this installed08:21
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Amuroso i take away the #08:21
Amurobefore the deb lines08:21
Amuro?08:21
thoreauputicAmuro: right08:21
arschright08:21
arschwhat can i do?08:21
bob2wait for it to be packaged08:22
bob2it's not dbus-glib at all08:22
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thoreauputicAmuro: if you want multiverse (you do) add the word " multiverse" after "universe"08:22
thoreauputicAmuro: on *each* universe line08:22
Amuroso on all lines08:22
arschman, i need that thing, common, its linux, it cant be that hard08:22
Amurok08:22
thoreauputicno08:22
ninwagoodnight #ubuntu08:22
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xedgood night ninwa-zzz08:23
thoreauputicAmuro: only on the universe lines08:23
bob2arsch: it's in breezy08:23
arschah, can i install only that package from breezy?08:23
Amurok08:23
Amurodone08:23
vladuz976does anybody know how to change the screenresolution?08:23
arschthat wouldnt break my system, wouldnt it?08:23
thoreauputicAmuro: tell us when you've done that and saved the file08:23
Amuronow ill apt-get update08:23
Amurosaved08:24
Amurodone08:24
Amuronow what08:24
Amurolol08:24
bob2arsch: no08:24
vladuz976it only gives me 1024X78608:24
thoreauputicAmuro: OK - can you paste the new file in #flood please ?08:24
bob2arsch: yes, it would break it in the snes that you'd get breezy's libc08:24
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arschdamn08:24
arschany chance, to get the software workin without it?08:25
bob2no08:26
bob2or ask the author08:26
arschk08:26
arschok, maybe ill do so08:26
Amuronow what thoreauputic08:26
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thoreauputicAmuro: run sudo apt-get update and see if there are any errors08:26
stjepanI have edited default-window-manager08:26
stjepanI typed startede08:27
stjepanand now ede doesn't start08:27
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stjepanI go in recovery mode08:27
stjepanhow do I edit file in recovery mode?08:27
Amurothoreauputic, flood chan08:27
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thoreauputicAmuro: why does your list contain both gb and ca entries??08:28
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Amurono idea08:28
stjepanoh, now I can't work with Ubuntu08:28
stjepan:(08:28
stjepanhelp me, please08:28
thoreauputicAmuro: I don't think you have a default list08:28
Amurono idea08:28
Amurolool08:28
thoreauputicAmuro: hmm08:28
Amuroi did what u said08:28
Amuroi selected canada08:28
Amuroin the http list08:28
Amurohit ok08:28
Amuroand this08:28
Amuroso ya08:28
Amuroduno wth is wrong08:29
Amurolol08:29
stjepanhow can I edit file in bash?08:29
thoreauputicAmuro: odd08:29
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arschstjepan: with nano08:29
arschnano "file"08:29
Amuroshould i edit the list and delete any gb entries?08:29
thoreauputicAmuro: try commenting out the gb entries ( the ones that have gb.archive in the line08:30
Amurok08:30
thoreauputicyep08:30
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Whistlerhow dp i run vim?08:31
Whistlerhow do i run vim?08:31
thoreauputicWhistler: type vim in a terminal>08:31
Amurok08:31
Amurodone08:31
Amuroapt-get updateing now08:31
thoreauputicAmuro: sudo apt-get update08:31
thoreauputick08:31
Amuroflood chan again08:32
Whistlerthoreauputic thx08:32
hondjeanyone here wise in the ways of evolution?08:32
stjepanarsch: tnx very much08:32
stjepanNow I'll try that08:32
thoreauputicAmuro: I don't know wth you did, but your sources are definitely weird08:33
byronsaltyhondje - thanks nfs worked08:33
hondjebyronsalty: awesome08:33
Amurothoreauputic, make ur sources as canada or w.e08:33
Amuroand send me file08:33
thoreauputicAmuro: I wouldn't normally do this, but the best thing might be for me to send you my list08:33
Amuroso i can copy and paste it08:33
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Amurothats what i said lol08:33
Amuroset it for CA08:33
Amurocanada08:33
thoreauputicAmuro: you'll have to wait a few minutes08:33
thoreauputicOK?08:33
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Amurok08:34
Amurono worry08:34
Amuroi got time08:34
trigger15hey....wazzup over there08:34
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trigger15help me....how to make auto mount?08:34
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hondjetrigger15: use the option 'auto' in /etc/fstab08:35
Razor-Xhondje: hey08:35
hondjeHi Razor-X, how's it going?08:35
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trigger15do ubuntu kernel support ntfs mounting...sepecially with write mode?08:36
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bob2trigger15: yes, no08:36
hondjetrigger15: No08:36
nalioth_zZzZzZzZtrigger15: only if you don't want your NTFS08:36
hondjeer, what bob2 said08:37
bob2no one supports mounting it writable without captive-ntfs08:37
bob2and shipping that is pretty dodge08:37
Razor-Xhondje: configuring eterm as we speak ;)08:37
hondjebob2: legal in .us if you have a copy of windows, right?08:37
hondjes/copy/unused copy/08:37
hondjeRazor-X: why stop there, install all of e ;-)08:37
bob2oh, dodge in the sense of slapping windows binaries into your kernel :)08:37
hondjeah, taintage08:37
Razor-Xhondje: ahh, this box doesen't have the hdd space, nor the time if I want to remove KDE08:38
Razor-Xplus, I like KDE quite a bit08:38
hondjeRazor-X: a shame :) Don't worry, someday e17 will go final, and you can apt it in and enjoy life :)08:38
hondjeKDE is nice and friendly, but Brother Rasterman is a prophet of design08:38
Razor-Xhondje: yeah, my dad's really my Linux limiting factor08:38
hondjeRazor-X: bummer :) The missus is mine, no more computers allowed :(08:39
Razor-Xbut, in the meantime, i'll have my Eterm all fixed up08:39
trigger15oh...yeah..dats right...i like kde 208:39
Amurothoreauputic,08:39
Amurothoreauputic, u there?08:39
Razor-Xhondje: heh, that's already a rule, my mom doesen't like computers much08:39
Razor-Xnor do we upgrade08:39
hondjeRazor-X: hehe08:39
Razor-Xactually, this week was a fun week08:39
thoreauputicyeah, Amuro I'm having other problems here....08:39
Amurolol08:40
Amurok08:40
thoreauputicAmuro: please wit08:40
hondjeMine loves computers, she's also been windows free for about 4 years, she just doesn't like the space they take08:40
Amurojust keep me updated in pm08:40
Razor-Xso, I really have the rest of today (30 minutes) and tomorrow, and that's it08:40
Amurocuz im going to diff network for bit08:40
thoreauputic*wait08:40
Razor-Xback to the books (Algebra II in real 'school' and Calculus at home)08:40
hondjeah, that's fun stuff Razor-X08:40
trigger15ouch....08:40
Razor-Xthe schools here refuse to accept my mastery of a subject because I don't have the damned prerequisites08:40
hondjeonly thing more fun than math is physics ;-)08:40
Razor-XI have to throttle my counsellors, it's on my list08:40
Razor-Xhondje: i'm gonna major in mathematics ;)08:40
Razor-XPure Math, if I have my way08:40
hondjeRazor-X: schools are crap :( I never graduated HS08:40
Razor-Xhondje: !08:41
hondjeThey kicked me out, I was uncivilized in my youth08:41
Razor-XI'm nonconformist, but not rebellious08:41
hondjeBut I didn't learn anything either, when I decided to go back to school it wasn't hard at all08:41
Razor-XI come to school dressed as Euler's number08:41
Razor-X*came08:41
Razor-Xit was a fun experience08:41
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Razor-X;)08:41
hondjehehe08:41
Razor-Xreally, the credit/prerequisite system in our school is total crap08:42
hondjeBut why study boring pure math when you can be a professional liar?08:42
Razor-Xit's goood for the not-so-bright, but, for anyone that has a speck of gray matter...........08:42
Razor-XPure Math is awesome!08:42
hondjePhysics is great....I figured out my next funding adventure: "Dark Gravity"08:42
Razor-Xjust the amount of fun you can find in the trig functions speaks volumes about math's funness08:42
hondjedark matter and energy are total BS, and look at the funding they get...I'm going to get bank on this one08:42
Razor-Xnot the right-triangle ratios, I mean the unit circle definitions08:43
hondjeyes, I love trig08:43
Razor-Xhondje: hehe08:43
hondjetrig and linear algebra08:43
Razor-XI used to hate it... before I knew about the unit circle08:43
hondjeabstract algebra is really neat too08:43
Razor-Xlinear algebra is boring!08:43
hondjeRazor-X: :o No way08:43
Razor-XCalculus seems easy, at leats differential calculus08:43
Razor-X*least08:43
hondjesubspaces are pure joy08:43
Razor-XI haven't gottent to integration yet08:43
dr_willisDifferental  Geomtery08:43
dr_willis:P08:43
Razor-Xewwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!108:43
hondjedr_willis: tensor calc!08:43
Razor-X;)08:43
dr_willisSubdermal Hemotoma08:43
Razor-Xthe word geometry....... ugggghhhh08:43
hondjedr_willis: I jsut said that ;-)08:44
Razor-XI really wanna read up on analysis, sounds damned interesting08:44
hondjegeometry is vectors for dummies :(08:44
Razor-Xgeometry is the course I officially finished this year08:44
Amuro.....................................08:44
Razor-Xlike I said, my school refuses to acknowledge my brains08:44
Razor-Xone day, they'll get massacred08:44
Razor-Xyou'll see!08:44
hondjeRazor-X: nah, one day you'll realize it doesn't matter :)08:44
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Razor-Xhondje08:44
Razor-Xerr!08:44
Razor-Xhondje: it fucking does08:45
hondjeIt does _now_08:45
Razor-Xafter I go to college, i'm fucking going to take it up with the state08:45
hondjeBut they're just people doing the best they can08:45
Razor-Xand throttle the senators to take it to congress08:45
Razor-Xour public education system sucks balls08:45
Razor-Xand it _needs_ to change08:45
hondjeThey're not like, out to hurt you or something, people don't take up jobs teaching to harm kids, usually08:45
Razor-Xi'm tired of being held back08:45
Razor-Xdamned TIRED!08:45
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hondjeThat's why it's public, it's made for everyone08:45
Razor-XI can do more! I'm not a 5 year old!08:45
Razor-Xthen give more opportunities to those who want to study!08:46
hondjeSo drop out08:46
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Razor-Xas my mom says "There's no difference between Indian and American public schools"08:46
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Razor-Xthen my college chances are severely dashed08:46
robzulahI have a question...08:46
Razor-Xhondje: Indian universities are crazy08:46
Razor-Xrobzulah: shoot08:46
hondjeRazor-X: Only if you want to go to like, ivy league for undergrad08:46
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hondjeIMHO they're all the same, pick a public uni :)08:46
Razor-Xhondje: exactly, I wan to go to ivy league ;)08:47
hondjesave money, etc08:47
hondjeRazor-X: then you're officially nuts :)08:47
Razor-Xmy goal is to sit in the halls of a university crunching numbers, as boring as it seems08:47
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Razor-Xwith my Linux desktop by my side, running Mathematica ;)08:47
hondjeMy goal is to do what I'm doing now...getting paid to fuck off while studying neat physics crap08:47
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hondjemaple > mathematica ;)08:47
robzulahOn Ubuntu, some fkeys do operations.  Like f12 is the same as right clicking with the mouse.  I want to assign the fkeys to do other things in some programs, how can I disable the Ubuntu default?08:47
Razor-Xpssh, hondje ;)08:47
hondjerobzulah: system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts I think08:48
Razor-Xrobzulah: go through the Gnome config menus, I can't go into detail, because I don't use Gnome08:48
Razor-Xahhh, there you are robzulah ;)08:48
robzulahthanks guys!08:48
hondjerobzulah: I lied to you08:48
hondjeapplications -> system tools -> configuration editor08:48
Razor-Xhmmm, I need one o dem RGB -> HEX things08:49
hondjethen dig in the metacity sections08:49
bob2f12 is only right clik on a mac, I think08:49
Razor-Xahhh, sweet sweet google ;)08:49
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hondjescrew google :(08:50
hondjeI wanted my IPO shares, but noooooo08:50
hondjeTold me to bid like everyone else :(08:50
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Amurok08:51
bl4cktonehello all08:51
Amurothoreauputic,08:51
Amurodid the update08:51
Amuronow im gonna open syn and try to dl mplayer again08:51
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Razor-Xmy vi muscle memory still clashes with emacs usage ;)08:51
hondjeRazor-X: vi > :)08:51
Razor-X;)08:51
Amurothanks thoreauputic08:52
Amuroworks now08:52
Amuro^.^08:52
Razor-XI like the kitchen sink in 300 kb thing, I guess08:52
Razor-Xplus, the commands seem to flow better08:52
Razor-Xespecially on a Dvorak keyboard08:52
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Amuronow i need to know how to install xvid codec xD and then i need to know how to play music/movies off of a mounted hard drive08:52
Razor-Xsomeone _really_ needs to make a text editor designed for the Dvorak keyboard08:52
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Razor-XAmuro: rather than going through codec hell, install VLC08:53
bob2Amuro: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:53
Amurokk08:53
hondjeRazor-X: I'd be happy just having my keyboard layout not change on me randomly :(08:53
bob2Razor-X: how does the keylayout affect a text editor at all?08:53
Razor-Xbob2: it affects it a lot08:53
bl4cktoneI'm trying to install enlightment went to this site http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&highlight=e17 did everything up to using synaptic to install the packages when I select the packages I get a window that says Could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade08:53
Razor-Xespecially in vi08:53
bob2Razor-X: e.g.?08:53
Amurook ubuntu is based off what? so which download should i dl Razor-X08:53
Razor-Xif you noticed, the save-and-quit command-pair in vi is :qw08:53
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bob2yeah, I used vi once or twice...08:54
Razor-Xwhich are right next to each other on a QWERTY keyboard08:54
Razor-XAmuro: sudo apt-get install vlc08:54
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Razor-Xit's a media player that can play just about any video format08:54
robzulahhmm, went through and sabotaged metacity, but its still doing it08:54
robzulahis that just another unavoidable downside to macintosh?08:54
hondjerobzulah: did you restart metacity?08:54
Razor-Xand, the vi movement keys are jkl08:54
bob2robzulah: f12 is a kernel thing08:54
robzulahah08:54
hondjeRazor-X: hey, you make sense man08:54
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Razor-Xhondje: hehe ;)08:54
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bob2robzulah: /etc/sysctl.conf would be my guess08:55
robzulahand I'm guessing, being its a kernel thing, I'm stuck with it unless I'm a good programmer?08:55
Razor-Xon a dvorak keyboard, these keys are miles apart08:55
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kestasever since I replaced my GeForce 4 Ti 4200 with a GeForce FX 5700 my display has been acting glitchy08:55
Razor-Xrobzulah: unless you wanna recompile the kernel, yes ;)08:55
kestasdoom3 runs slower08:55
bob2bl4cktone: those packages aren't compatible with ubuntu08:55
kestasway slower08:55
robzulahshoot08:55
Razor-Xand that doesen't take programming skill08:55
robzulahalright08:55
Razor-Xthat takes guts08:55
Razor-XXD08:55
robzulahwell thank you for the help!08:55
bob2Razor-X: robzulah no, it has nothing to do with compiling it08:55
kestasand after text in X there are these weird lines08:55
bob2robzulah: edit /etc/sysctl.conf08:55
Razor-Xbob2: really, it can be modified?08:56
Amurohow do i play movies off of another hard drive thats alrdy mounted08:56
bl4cktonebob2 woe is me is there anything I can do?08:56
bob2Razor-X: yes, please don't make assertions if you're not sure08:56
kestasdo I have to reinstall my nvidia driver or something?08:56
Amurobecause i think i have to login to root to do that08:56
Razor-Xthen, it isn't really... kernel static, is it08:56
hondjeAmuro: same way you play them on another drive08:56
Amurowhen i dont have a root password08:56
bob2wtf08:56
hondjekestas: probably wouldn't hurt08:56
bob2Amuro: no, you don't have to login as root08:56
Razor-Xyou said it's based on the kernel, generally that assumes it's static after a kernel compile08:56
Amurowell how do i do that then :\08:56
bob2no08:56
kestasnvidia-settings detects the card as a GeForce FX 5700, but it's still slower and more glitchy08:56
Razor-XAmuro: you're talking about a NTFS drive then?08:56
AmuroYes08:56
bob2Amuro: edit /etc/fstab, but umask=002 in the options column instead of "defaults"08:56
kestashondje: but the card is detected right, and arent the nvidia drivers supposed to work for all these cards?08:57
hondjekestas: Yes, you are correct08:57
bob2bl4cktone: compile it from source to /usr/local/e17 or whatever, I guess08:57
Razor-Xthere you are, Amuro, bob2 finished it for me08:57
Amurobob2,  a command would be nice ive only been using ubuntu for like 6 hours08:57
Amurolol08:57
Amurowell08:57
bob2Amuro: I'm not writing a sed script, sorry08:57
Amurono i mean08:57
kestashondje: also uninstalling nvidia-kernel-common means it tries to uninstall the kernel itself08:57
Amurotell me the sudo command08:57
Amuro:\08:57
kestasand the headers08:57
bob2Amuro: open that file in a text editor, e.g. sudo gedit /etc/fstab08:57
Razor-XAmuro: sudo mount /dev/path/to/hdd /mnt/mount/point -t ntfs -o umask=022208:57
hondjekestas: can't help you man, I install the official drivers, never used those :(08:57
cthulfuegouse "defaults,umask=002" as opposed to JUST "umask=002"08:58
Amuroi mounted my 2nd drive to media/kdrive08:58
kestasI thought these drivers were official?08:58
bob2hrm, oops08:58
hondjekestas: by official I mean the ones from nvidia's site08:58
robzulahdo I need to be root to edit sysctl.conf?08:58
bl4cktonebob2: damn wish I know what it means to compite it08:58
kestasbut installing the official ones means I'll have to compile my own kernel08:58
cthulfuegoThe prepackaged nvidia modules work absolutely FINE with FX5700 cards.08:58
hondjekestas: and no, there's not a real reason I do that other than I've done it that way forever and didn't bother apt-cache search nvidia :)08:58
bob2robzulah: yes, of course08:58
bl4cktonebob: compile that is08:58
kestascthulfuego: then why is doom3 going slower and my display more glitchy?08:59
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kestashondje: ah I see hmm08:59
Amuromount: /dev//hdb1 already mounted or /media/kdrive busy08:59
Amuromount: according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is already mounted on /media/kdrive08:59
hondjekestas: try using apt-get install --reinstall, it shouldn't cry too much08:59
cthulfuegokestas: No idea, did you not set X up properly?08:59
kestascthulfuego: well the driver is nvidia, I dont think theres anything else to change08:59
hondjecthulfuego: I'd imagine xorg.conf would be the same between those two cards08:59
kestasit worked fine with my 4 Ti 420008:59
cthulfuegokestas: There is.09:00
bob2robzulah: sudo nano /etc/sysctl.conf09:00
Amurothoreauputic, pm?09:00
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kestasbut now that Ive upgraded it doom3 is going slower and Ive got these glitchy lines09:00
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brodmannhey09:00
brodmannhow do i get ownership of readme files09:00
thoreauputicAmuro: no, sorry09:00
Razor-Xuggghhh, this is a bitch, it takes ages to convert each color value by hand -_-09:00
robzulahHa! I knew that one bob2, lol09:00
kestascthulfuego: what else?09:00
hondjekestas: all I can think of is reinstalling all them thar nvidia stuffs09:00
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AmuroRazor-X, may i pm u?09:00
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Razor-XAmuro: shoot09:00
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hondjeshouldn't be that bad.... sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx && apt-get install nvidia-glx, perhaps-o09:01
sabotaasihi09:01
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brodmanni'm trying to change the default boot order in grub, but I can't change the file to write09:01
brodmannit's only a readme09:01
brodmannread09:01
hondjebrodmann: use sudo to edit it09:02
brodmannsays i'm not the owner09:02
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Jesse1hmmm i get this error when ever i type sudo         sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 044009:02
hondjesudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst or whatever :)09:02
Jesse1ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory09:02
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sabotaasii need help with audacity09:02
AndyRbrodmann, sudo gedit09:02
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kestasokay Ive reinstalled etc, I'll try rebooting09:02
bob2Jesse1: wow, somone really breok your system09:03
hondjekestas: good luck :)09:03
bob2er, "broke"09:03
brodmannalrighty, trying that now09:03
dutHello!09:03
hondjeJesse1: did you like, chmod -R 777 /usr or something? :)09:03
Jesse1hondje, yes09:03
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ompaulsabotaasi, you need to tell people what it is you need to know because that could be anything from installing it to removing it or anywhere inbetween09:03
jamey3Does anyone have experience with the radeonfb module? I can't get it to work with my X server.09:03
hondjeJesse1: you're pretty much SOL09:03
hondjeunless you make backups09:04
bob2Jesse1: why did you do that?09:04
sabotaasiompaul, well when i try install audacity it says "depencies libvorbis0a (>=1.1.0) but 1.0.1-1 is to be installed"09:04
Jesse1sol?09:04
ompaulJesse1, shit out of luck09:04
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sabotaasiand i have that libvorbis0a installed already09:04
Jesse1lol09:04
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bob2sabotaasi: the packages you're trying to install aren't for ubuntu.09:05
dutIt's possible to use Zyxel omni ADSL USB modem under ubuntu?09:05
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Jesse1well that kind of sucks then09:05
hondjeJesse1: yes, indeed it does09:05
hondjeBut now you know not to :)09:05
ompaulsabotaasi, are you using apt-get to install everything? are you using hoary09:05
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Jesse1yes09:05
bob2Jesse1: why did you do that to begin with?09:06
Jesse1changing the folder permisions09:06
bob2but why?09:06
kestasstill the same09:06
Jesse1cuz it said i couldnt09:06
kestasannoying glitchy line problems09:06
Jesse1meh lucky for me im using the live cd09:06
Jesse1untill my proper copy comes in the mail09:07
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ompaulsabotaasi, apt-get can also be synaptic or dpkg09:07
hondjeJesse1: that's the best time to do stuff like that ;-)09:08
Jesse1yea09:08
ompaulsabotaasi, anything else is the quick road to hell09:08
kestashttp://pastebin.com/301687 theres my Xorg.0.log09:08
Jesse1so now before i go do that again09:08
kestasdoesnt look like anythings out of the ordinary09:08
ompaulbob2, would you care to prove that I have found a bug in thunderbird? and not just something funny with my install09:09
bob2I don't use it, sorry09:09
cyphaseis there a generic file viewer application09:09
ompaulbob2, k09:09
cyphaseone that can read all the formats under the sun09:09
cyphase:)09:09
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cyphasewithin reason of course09:09
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thoreauputicbob2: do you subscribe to the users list? I've had no mail from it for nearly 24hrs -do you know if it has problems?09:10
bob2thoreauputic: yeah, I do09:10
Jesse1how can i get permision to copy stuff to those folders with out using chmod09:10
ompaulcyphase, there in lies an issue or two - OOo is one tool that reads a lot of file types09:10
bob2the machine it's on (called rince) is a bit screwed at the moment09:10
thoreauputicare you getting anything?09:10
thoreauputicbob2: ah, OK thanks09:10
bob2Jesse1: why dirs in particular?09:10
sabotaasiompaul, im using ubuntu hoary and apt-get install audacity needs that libvorbis0a but its already installed09:11
kestasdoom3 is still much slower09:11
cyphaseompaul, i was thinking more along the lines of a plain viewer09:11
cyphasedoesn't do anything except show the file09:11
kestas:( whats going on with my new card09:11
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Jesse1bob2, for mozplugger09:11
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jamey3**My framebruffer is not letting me launch X server; anybody got any ideas?**09:11
bob2Jesse1: there's a package for that...09:12
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Jesse1bob2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17727&page=1&pp=1009:12
kestashmm it does look like Im using out of date drivers09:12
kestas7141 is what ubuntu has hondje, but the latest is 766something09:12
kestashrmmm09:12
hondjekestas: yeah, I have that one09:13
hondje766409:13
bob2Jesse1: right...so install mozplugger from universe09:13
kestaslooks like Ill grab the official ones then..a nd compile a new kernel :(09:13
hondjejamey3: has a real problem, ol' hondje spent a good two hours on it and couldn't solve it09:13
hondjekestas: why compile a new kernel?09:13
Jesse1bob2, then how does it work do i need to set anything?09:13
kestashondje: it needs the kernel source and a compiled kernel right?09:13
hondjekestas: just the kernel-headers packag09:14
kestasah okay09:14
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bob2Jesse1: you mean "how do I install mozplugger?"?09:14
parabolizeya but you have a compiled kernel...09:14
hondjekestas: thogh I also get the kernel-source pkg, untar it, and link it to /usr/src/linux09:14
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jamey3will anybody help me?09:14
Jesse1bob2, no i can install it but once its installed do i have to do anything for it to work or it auto09:15
bob2Jesse1: no09:15
kestascthulfuego: are you sure there should be no probs using an FX 5700 with 7141 ubuntu drivers?09:15
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parabolizeim sure kestas09:16
kestasthenw hy is there for me?09:16
hondjeBut evolution isn't supposed to crash twice a day on me, either09:16
Jesse1bob2, ok then thank u for your help now time to restart my computer to get it all nice and working again for me to break it with in the next few days09:16
kestasIm using the RenderAccel extension, maybe thats the problem09:16
bob2Jesse1: heh, good luck09:16
hondjekestas: yes, that's experimental09:16
Jesse1yea09:16
jamey3will anybody help me? :P09:17
kestasworked absolutely fine with the Ti 420009:17
jamey3Ti 4200 is an excellent card09:17
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parabolizejamey3: post some error logs in #flood so somebody will have something to work with09:17
kestasjamey3: which would you choose Ti 4200 or FX 5700?09:17
jamey3okay one sec09:17
jamey3Ti 420009:17
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kestas?? isnt the FX 5700 supposed to be better?09:18
hondjejamey3: post the ones I picked out for you09:18
Cineanyone know why gnutella would crash randomly?09:18
kestas5700 is supposed to be next generation card09:18
hondjethey need to number them better09:18
hondje1, 2, 3, 4... 5 < 6, etc09:18
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jamey3hehe09:18
jamey3okay I've posted the relevant error in #flood09:18
brodmannI just installed the OS, do i need to get the ati drivers for the 9600xt card?09:18
hondjeI buy my cards based on the most important benchmark: cost09:18
jamey3any ideas anyone?09:19
kestasbut I got the Ti 4200 2 years ago?09:19
ompaulcyphase do this in a terminal and choose the one you believe to be of most use to you 'apt-cache search file | grep view | less' - install it with 'apt-get install filename'09:19
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kestasgod damn @(*$ computer salesman09:19
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kosiarzhey;] 09:19
parabolizejamey3: no idea. no good with radeon09:19
hondjenever trust salesmen09:19
jamey3ok thanks09:19
kosiarz:>09:19
jamey3anyone else?09:19
AmuroI installed VLC and it plays all movies fine however there is no sound, can someone help me? however it does play a sound when i close a window ect.09:19
hondjejamey3: if no one can help you, I have some dumb ideas09:19
jamey3okay go ahead :P09:19
hondjejamey3: install the fancy drivers09:20
jamey3ooh how do I do that?09:20
hondjejamey3: Um, I dunno....apt-get install fglrx-control xorg-driver-fglrx I guess09:20
jamey3woah!09:21
hondjeany ati users want to tell me to stop lying, feel free09:21
jamey3okay I'll do an apt-cache search for that :P09:21
hondjejamey3: that's what I did, apt-cache search fglrx09:22
Amurowhen i play a movie in  a player the audio lags between the speech09:22
Amuroanyone got any ideas why09:22
Amuro?09:22
hondjeAmuro: is the movie on a dvd/vcd?09:22
jamey3hondje: ok great. What does fglrx mean>09:22
AmuroAVi09:22
Amurompeg09:22
Amurowmv09:22
hondjejamey3: I dunno, never had an ATI card09:22
Amuroany movie extension09:22
hondjeAmuro: oh, no idea :)09:22
jamey3hondje: okay thanks. It says 17.9MB!09:23
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hondjejamey3: I'm guessing 'FireGLRadeonXtreme'09:23
jamey3hondje: stupid ATI folk, naming their architecture with such exciting names09:23
hondjeyeah09:23
hondjeshould be 'driver_for_ati_cards_1'09:24
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jamey3hondje: how do I "get" that driver.. or are you just saying that's the name?09:24
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Razor-Xhondje: you use E?09:25
Razor-Xor at least, eterm?09:25
spiralhi09:25
hondjejamey3: Um, my guess is apt-get install fglrx-control xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-kernel-source09:25
hondjeRazor-X: yes to first, no to second09:25
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Razor-Xhondje: errrggg! :(09:25
hondjeRazor-X: I used to, years back...what's up?09:25
jamey3hondje: whoops I did the first command you gave me. is that okay?09:26
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hondjejamey3: yeah, just missing the kernel source thiingy09:26
jamey3okay so do that now09:26
hondjeremember, I'm just guessing here, a lot09:26
hondjebut no worse than our studious and determined efforts before, eh09:26
jamey3hehe, so I will be recompiling my kernel?09:27
AmuroHow come i cant play music files off of another mounted hard drive09:27
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Amuroi can play movies09:27
Amurobut when i open the file in xmms and music player09:27
hondjejamey3: no way09:27
Amuroit freezes on me09:27
jamey3hondje: aw, I just wanna'd to say something l33t for once. ;)09:27
jamey3what's gonna be going on then?09:27
AmuroWell09:28
Amuroanyone?09:28
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AmuroI can play movies off of a mounted hard drive but the audio lags and also i cant play music files from them09:28
hondjejamey3: in hondje land, we're installing a new driver for your card....we edit xorg.conf AGAIN, and see what happens?09:28
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jamey3okay hondje, I'll start PM'ing you again ;)09:28
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hondjeokie09:29
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Amurobob2,  u there?09:29
thoreauputicAmuro: people here are volunteers: have some patience - stop expecting people to fix everything for you *right now* and stop repeating, please09:29
bob2?09:29
Amuromay i pm u09:30
bob2no09:30
Amuroyes i know thoreauputic, but id still like help for stuff09:30
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thoreauputicAmuro: sure09:30
thoreauputicAmuro: just be patient - if someone knows an answer they will give it09:31
bob2I don't understand the question still, personally09:31
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thoreauputicAmuro: keeping your problem in channel help because when you pm people the channel loses the thread of your problems09:32
Amurook09:32
thoreauputic*helps09:32
rob_anyone knowedgeable with gnucash-1.8.11?09:32
Amurobut its hard to concentrate one the answers given when 30 ppl are talking at once09:33
Amuro:\09:33
thoreauputicAmuro: sorry I was a bit short with you - but this is how IRC works09:33
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AmuroYes i know how irc works, but ive never been to a linux help chan before09:33
bob2Amuro: why don't you explain your problem fro mthe start again09:34
AmuroOk.09:34
bob2there's hardly anyone else talking at the moment09:34
simondoodsimondood, hi to myself09:34
thoreauputicAmuro: for your xmms problem, try looking in prefs and choose the esound output plugin09:34
simondooddooh09:34
abrocadabroAmuro: what do you mean you can't play music, could you be more specific?09:34
AmuroI installed VLC, and it plays video and audio, however the audio lags09:34
Amuroand also, when i open a music file from a mounted hard drive, in lets say XMMS, it will not play and it freezes that program09:35
brodmannhow do i run a file from the terminal09:35
bob2Amuro: do what thoreauputic said for xmms09:35
bob2brodmann: do you mean "run a program"?09:35
thoreauputicAmuro: have you tried my xmms suggestion?09:35
Amuroim bout to09:35
abrocadabroAmuro: what does ps ax|grep esd say?09:36
brodmannwell, it's a sh file extension09:36
pepsiAmuro, i believe that you can adjust the audio synchronization in VLC's options somewhere09:36
bob2brodmann: please don't /msg me09:36
brodmannoh sorry09:37
AmuroThank you thoreauputic09:37
Amuroworks09:37
bob2if you mean "run a program", type it's name09:37
thoreauputicAmuro: OK great :)09:37
Amuroabrocadabro, what do u mean09:37
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j-rockcat <filename>09:37
j-rockbrodmann: cat <filename>09:37
bob2that doesn't run a program09:37
abrocadabroAmuro: never mind, you had it fixed anyway09:38
j-rockit sure does run a file though09:38
Amuronow i still need help for my VLC question09:38
thoreauputicAmuro: the vlc thing you might have to play with config options as pepsi says09:38
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Amurobut before that how do i choose a specific program to open different extensions09:38
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thoreauputicAmuro: in the file manager, right click a file >> properties >> open with >> add program of choice09:39
thoreauputicAmuro: and check that box if you want it default09:39
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AmuroFile managers09:40
brodmannpermission denied09:40
AmuroWould that be just the folder or09:40
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Amurowhat09:41
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Amuroahh09:41
Amuronvm09:41
brodmanntried running that file bob, got the msg permission denied09:41
Amurofound it09:41
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bob2brodmann: so, what file is it?09:41
cdcare you people getting insert table option in OpenOffice.org?09:41
cdci dont get it at all and its not a bug with OpenOffice09:42
brodmannwell, i'm trying to find out if i need to install the ati 9600xt drivers, because i just installed the OS09:42
thoreauputicAmuro: don't use "open with" - go to the bottom and use "properties"09:42
Amuroyes i did that09:42
Amurothanks btw09:42
thoreauputicOK09:42
Amuronow i need to find a cedega expert ^.^09:42
bob2brodmann: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:42
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Amuroand im set09:42
bob2brodmann: you don't need to install them, but you can if you want09:42
brodmannoh ok09:43
brodmannseems like some of the graphics in the screensavers run slow09:43
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jamey3**>> just to say: hondje is the greatest! :D He fixed my annoying framebuffer problem w00t09:46
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Jesse1lol09:46
hondjejamey3: so that took only what, 4 hours worth of messing around?09:47
cdcare you people getting insert table option in OpenOffice.org? i dont get it at all and its not a bug with OpenOffice09:47
cdccould someone check and let me know please?09:48
cdci dont see that option at all in the insert menu of Impress09:48
hondjejamey3: on the plus side, I learned ya' some sshd and the like09:48
Amuronow09:48
Jesse1hmmm09:48
Amurowhere to get ati radeon drivers09:48
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Amurofor linux09:48
vinuxWell take care all. See you all tomorrow :)09:48
cdcnot in writer . Its in impress that  i am not getting the option of insert table09:48
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Jesse1mozplugger doesnt want to work09:49
thoreauputic!ati09:49
ubotuwell, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:49
thoreauputicAmuro: ^^^^09:49
Lancellorhello anybody knows how register a nickname on freenode??09:50
hondjeLancellor: /msg nickserv help09:50
SeveasLancellor, msg nickserv help09:50
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Seveasdamn you, dog :p09:50
hondjeSeveas: hah!09:50
ompaulcdc when you say table, you are taking it from a db?09:50
hondjeSeveas: hey, what's your make-jpkg voodoo, man?09:50
Seveashm?09:51
Lancellori tried everithing even this link http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup09:51
hondjethe spiel you give people about java09:51
Seveasmake-jpkg isn't voodoo09:51
Razor-Xanyone here use eterm?09:51
Seveasit's regular magic :)09:51
Razor-Xgah!09:51
Seveashondje: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 09:51
Razor-XI have questions! :(09:51
Razor-Xand #enlightement is dead09:51
hondjeSeveas: thanks, cut 'n pasting that to my 'things newbies like to know' file09:51
cdcompaul, no i mean a normal tabular format09:51
Jesse1bob2, i installed mozplugger it doesnt seem to work when i got to a website that has streaming music09:51
SeveasRazor-X: probably because it's #enligtenment09:52
cdcompaul, could you please look into this and let me know i am not getting that insert option in Impress at all09:52
cdcompaul, i dont know the reason at all09:52
Lancellorstill when i tried to join a channel this is what i get :Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel09:52
cdchey hondje09:52
bob2Lancellor: so, /msg chanserv help09:52
hondjecdc: yo09:52
SeveasLancellor, register a nickname and let your irc client identify automatically09:52
Lancellorhow i do that09:53
kosiarzLancellor: so try to register on freenode, this is quite simple09:53
ompaulcdc slow down - please answer the questions I have for you :) do you wish to create a table and insert data in it within that application?09:53
Seveasif this is all abracadabra, go to the freenode website09:53
Seveasit's explained tere09:53
Seveasthere*09:53
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kosiarzhehe, 'abracadabra'09:53
unrealwould anyone here have a clue why my USB keyboard works, and the USB mouse doesn't?09:53
unrealit's a wireless keyboard and mouse that use the same USB receiver09:53
Lancellori followed all the steps and still does not work09:53
cdcompaul, i ve got some data i need to display that data in a presentation using impress in a tabular format as simple as this.09:53
Jesse1lancellor. just type it in /msg chanserv help and hit enter09:53
hondjeunreal: because it's set correctly for the keyboard and not the mouse.09:53
cdcompaul, i need to type in the data in a tabular format very easy09:53
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cdcbut i dont see that option in impress at all09:54
hondjeunreal: I'd dig around in your xorg.conf file, see where it thinks your mouse is09:54
abrocadabrounreal: did you set the channel right?09:54
unrealchannel? heh09:54
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Amurothanks guys09:54
Amuroim out09:54
Amuroill be on tomorrow for more help09:55
bl4cktoneHey all just installed ubuntu today first time using linux found ubuntuguide.org and it's helped me out alot.  about to try installing unreal or something09:55
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cdcompaul, do you get the option ?09:55
hondjeunreal: or my favorite, disconnect and reconnect it while tailing /var/log/messages09:55
Lancellornothing happens09:55
hondjeunreal: oh, then I should probabably slow WAY down :)09:55
unrealheh09:55
abrocadabrounreal: it happens to me that the wireless keyboard and mouse has its own channel, flip over your keyboard and have a look09:55
Jesse1ive installed mozplugger now trying to listen to the music on this page http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/window/media/player/listen/0,,3225039,00.html it still says that it needs aditional plug ins09:55
abrocadabrounreal: or check your reciever09:56
ompaulcdc what I did was I inserted a spreadsheet and added data to that - however that may not be the effect you are looking for09:56
unrealthe hardware is fine, I just have no idea what to do09:56
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hondjeJesse1: cruise over to mplayer's website, download their codecs and put them all in /usr/lib/win3209:56
cdcompaul, yes so that means Ubuntu has broke something in openoffice?09:56
Jesse1ive got the win32 codecs09:56
cdcompaul, how is this possible09:56
thoreauputicLancellor: try switching to the server channel09:56
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thoreauputicLancellor: the tab on the left in xchat09:57
cdcompaul, i am pretty sure that its not a bug with OpenOffice. There is some problem in Ubuntu i guess09:57
abrocadabrounreal: don't rip it apart, just check if it has a switch or not, mine does09:57
hondjeunreal while unplugging it and stuff, do 'sudo tail /var/log/messages'09:57
RobNycdoes hoary comes with the necessary things to be able to compile apps ?09:57
hondjesometimes useful, sometimes misleading09:57
unrealhmm09:57
Razor-Xhondje: hmmmm, i've never encountered fonts ni WxH form09:57
hondjeRobNyc: You're here too?09:57
waxheadquick question, if I was to add the mono deb site http://debian.meebey.net/pkg-mono ./ am I likely to break anything else with my install?09:57
RobNyci want to run make ; make install for a script that needs to be compiled09:57
RobNychondje, where u from09:57
unreal usbmouse: blacklisted09:57
waxheadI just want to get latest mono and monodevelop...09:58
hondjeRobNyc: don't play coy, son ;-)09:58
Razor-Xhondje: but, in the only theme.cfg I have for Eterm, it uses those09:58
RobNychondje, i got the ubuntu cds i felt like installing it lol09:58
RobNyc( Operating System ) Linux Ubuntu 5.04 - hoary Kernel: .6.10-5-686, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 6.8.2 | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.4.109:58
hondjeRazor-X: oh,I dunno :)09:58
Razor-Xhondje: how would I use them?09:58
Razor-Xdamn damn!09:58
hondjeRobNyc: Any distro left untested by you yet? :)09:58
ompaulcdc (A) that is an assumption (B) what you are doing requires an expert in the impress domain - I have lots of use of it under my belt - however I am not sure that you are defining exactly what you want in language that I can understand - maybe use gimp or some such and create an image that tells the story of how it should look and ask at that time09:58
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RobNychondje, yes many i dont care anymore i have my chosen ones or chosen few09:59
newbiedoes anyone experience on changing your screen resolution in VT.09:59
masahiroHi guys, still same problem as last night : No sound09:59
hondjeRobNyc: as long as you're happy man :)09:59
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hondjenewbie: VT?09:59
RobNychondje, yea and you09:59
newbievirtual terminal09:59
RobNycMy main pc running XP Pro / Phaeronix (Gentoo)09:59
cdcompaul, its very simple just do this go to writer and go to insert menu and there u see an option Insert Table i want the same option in Impress09:59
ompaulcdc actually try this09:59
cdcthats it09:59
cdcompaul, got it ?09:59
hondjeRobNyc: oh, I got tired of picking on ubuntu when hoary came out, and dropped sid on the desktop09:59
RobNycHere on my old pc Celeron running Ubuntu09:59
cdcompaul, i dont want a spreadsheet09:59
RobNychondje, Kanotix best bet10:00
cdcompaul, i want a table10:00
hondjeRobNyc: nah, I'm a GNU Hippy10:00
hondjeSo I got to stay close to debian10:00
hondjeRobNyc: novaflare and sensebend keep showing up, too10:00
RobNychondje, Kanotix #1 lol10:00
hondje:p10:00
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RobNychondje, lso wat u runnin10:01
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masahiroI have outlined my problem @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=218564#post21856410:02
RobNychondje, man get a rolling release distro thats what they told me10:02
Razor-XI feel like a n00b bleating for help constantly :(10:03
hondjeRobNyc: ubuntu on the desktop, debian on other stuff, mac for the missus10:03
hondjeRazor-X: don't learn if you don't ask10:03
ompaulcdc there is no such text in the menu maybe this is a feature that you have to work at some other way - launchpad.ubuntu.com for bugs10:03
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Razor-Xhondje: true that10:03
Razor-Xwell, i'll ask again10:03
Razor-Xanyone have experience with Eterm configuring?10:03
hondjeRazor-X: oh, that reminds me of my lovely troll earlier today10:03
cdcompaul, no but Debian packages have got this option10:04
hondjeI sent a newbie off to set up x font server by hand :)10:04
cdchow is this possible10:04
Razor-XHAHAHAHAHAHA10:04
Razor-Xi'm sorry, i'm sorry!10:04
cdcompaul, i also enquired in the openoffice.org irc and they said openoffice has this feature10:04
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ompaulcdc are you using 2.0 or 1.1.3 ?10:05
cdcompaul, 1.1.310:05
cdc2.0 is not released yet10:05
cdcnow i am downloading 1.1.4 from the website10:06
cdci think its the packaging that has caused the issue10:06
mojojojo_how do i install [perl?10:06
ompaulcdc that might just help, the packaging may have broken it - report it as a bug10:06
Jesse1hondje, so where do i extract the files to again?10:06
hondjeJesse1: what files? I forgot10:06
mojojojo_nvm10:06
hondjeoh yes, codecs10:07
bob2mojojojo_: you already have perl installed10:07
hondje Jesse1 they go to /usr/lib/win3210:07
masahiroPlease?10:07
Jesse1hondje, theres no folder callled win3210:07
hondjeJesse1: sudo mkdir /usr/lib/win3210:07
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cdchondje, when i say g++ it says command not found10:07
hondjecdc: sudo apt-get install build-essential10:08
cdcwhat package is to be installed to get rid off this error10:08
Lancellorcan somebody guidme trough the process of registering my nickname on freenode??10:08
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thoreauputiccdc: build-essential10:08
masahiroPlease can someone help me get my sound to work?10:08
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hondjeLancellor: /msg nickserv register <password>10:08
RobNychondje,10:08
RobNycos[Linux 2.6.10-5-686 i686]  distro[Debian 3.1]  cpu[1 x Celeron (Coppermine) @ 635MHz]  mem[Physical : 249MB, 10.3% free]  disk[Total : 13.57GB/17.42GB Free]  video[8086:7125]  sound[ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH] 10:08
Lancellori tried10:08
RobNycdistro[Debian 3.1] 10:08
thoreauputichondje: oops didn't see yours ;)10:08
formnullmasahiro: do you know what kind of sound card you have, and if the driver is loading correctly?10:08
RobNyclol10:08
hondjeLancellor: the /msg nickserv identify <password>10:09
masahiroI think it's an ac97-type onboard, and I have pasted the error messages @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=218564#post21856410:09
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Jesse1hondje, You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/usr/lib/win32"10:09
hondjeJesse1: use sudo10:09
Lancellorhttp://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup i follow this guide but every time i try to get in to some channels still saying the i need to register my nickname10:10
thoreauputicLancellor: /msg nickserv identify <password>10:10
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Jesse1hondje, what command i was just going to drag and drop10:10
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formnullmasahiro: well i think you'll need to get some lower-level info.. for one thing you can look in /var/log/messages10:11
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hondjeJesse1: I don't know how to do that stuff10:11
Jesse1hondje, ok10:11
formnullmasahiro: you might try loading the driver directly10:11
formnullmasahiro: usually this is done for you by the autodetection10:11
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Lancellori did it and open other window with my name and say identify <mypassword>10:12
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formnullmasahiro: drivers are in ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/sound/pci/10:12
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formnullmasahiro: e.g. you could see the ac97 drivers in ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/sound/pci/ac9710:13
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hondjeLancellor: did you /msg nickserv that?10:13
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thoreauputicLancellor: you do the command on one line:  /msg nickserv identify <password> where <password> is your password10:13
formnullmasahiro: if you have an ac97 card, I would try loading that driver by doing "modprobe snd-ac97-codec" and then "sudo tail /var/log/messages" to see what errors (if any) you are getting10:14
Lancelloryes is how i did it10:14
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masahiroformnull:(I sm still here, trying the commands)10:14
formnullmasahiro: there may be a more straightforward way of going about troubleshooting this, but that's the most direct way i can think of10:14
masahiroShall I go to the pasteserver?10:15
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Jesse1whats the command to extract tar.bz2 files?10:15
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masahiroformnull: Lots of errors came up, I will logon to the server for pasting. See you there.10:16
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thoreauputicJesse1: tar xvjf <file>10:16
ThE__OnEhow can i reinstall perl?10:16
emanuelezhello10:16
formnullmasahiro: well i need to go to sleep... sorry I cannot help more :) hopefully this will give you some ideas.. i would try google, or post to the forum, or ask here what may be relevant..10:16
Jesse1ok10:16
masahiroOk thanks10:16
Jesse1thoreauputic, that will just extract to where it is?10:16
ThE__OnEsomeone please help10:16
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emanuelezi have to edit a huge book written in latex with a friend and he lives in another city. is there an easy subversioning tool out there?10:17
ThE__OnEhow can i reinstall perl?10:17
thoreauputicJesse1: to the current working dir, yes10:17
Jesse1thoreauputic, ok10:17
hondjeemanuelez: subversion?10:17
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Jesse1thoreauputic, im trying to install the mplayer codecs i downloaded10:18
emanuelezhondje,  thats what i was thinking about... is it hard to use?10:18
hondjeemanuelez: No clue, never used it :)  But smarter people than I say so10:18
emanuelezhondje, lol10:19
thoreauputicJesse1: I haven't done that but I imagine you extract them in the dir you were pointed to10:19
hondjeemanuelez: can't be harder than editing a book in latex10:19
Jesse1yea but its acsess denied10:19
hondjeafter 100 pages I cannot keep it all together10:19
ThE__OnEhow can i reinstall perl?10:19
thoreauputicJesse1: sudo is your friend ;)10:19
emanuelezhondje, naaa latex is your friend10:20
emanuelez:)10:20
hondjeemanuelez: I love it, I'm just incompetant :)10:20
ThE__OnEcomon10:20
ThE__OnEanyone?10:20
bl4cktoneso guys I got a crx just today, no pressure in the cylinders any of them, but the timing is correct and valves are working thinking maybe it's the head gasket10:20
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emanuelezhondje, just keep chapters separated, create a makefile and u're done :)10:20
thoreauputicJesse1: sudo cp file /path/to/win32/dir ; cd path/to/win32/dir ; tar xvjf <file>10:21
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thoreauputicsorry the last one needs sudo too10:21
thoreauputicsudo tar etcetc10:21
ThE__OnEhello?10:21
bl4cktoneThE--OnE hello10:22
ThE__OnEhow can i reinstall perl?10:22
bl4cktoneThE__OnE what's up10:22
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ThE__OnEthe usual10:22
ThE__OnEfeeling left out10:22
Fish-Faceapt-get install perl ;-)10:23
bl4cktoneThE__OnE yeah gets that way around here10:23
ThE__OnEwhere everyone answers every stupid question of other peoples but leave out to answer my stupid question10:23
_paxlol10:23
bl4cktoneThE__OnE lol10:23
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sturmkindhelo10:23
hondjeThE__OnE: apt-get install --reinstall <package>10:23
ThE__OnEhow can i "reinstall" perl?10:23
kosiarzdamn, i think Synaptic isn't using specified proxy settings in gnome10:23
ThE__OnEk10:23
kosiarzhow come?10:24
kosiarz;] 10:24
sturmkindQuestion: how could i play a mp3 file onto the bash?10:24
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ChurcH_of_FoamYmornin all ::yawn::10:24
hondjeif that doesn't rock your socks or whatever the saying is, then apt-get remove --purge <pkg> and then apt-get install <pkg>10:24
bl4cktonelike how I wanted to install enlightment but someone told me to compile it from the source and I have no idea what that means I was all getting used to sudo get-apt install <insert program here>10:24
ThE__OnEi dont think thats right10:24
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thoreauputicsturmkind: erm... sudo apt-get install cplay or mp3blaster, or just use mpg123 or mpg32110:24
thoreauputicsturmkind: if I umderstood you correctly...10:25
sturmkindthoreauputic: thank you! you make my day :-)10:25
thoreauputicsturmkind: :)10:25
hondjeThE__OnE: the zen perl reinstaller would find the path that is true10:25
sturmkindbtw. i haven't know that there is a circus on my harddisk! => http://www.ubuntu.de10:26
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ThE__OnElook10:26
ThE__OnEhttp://pastebin.com/30170610:26
Echylobtw I get a .xinitrc error everytime I boot. (last session didn't last 10 seconds, and then .xinitrc line 47 couldn't exec xwmf) it happened after installing first xfce and then xfce410:26
thoreauputicsturmkind: a circus??10:26
ThE__OnEits gonna uninstll all my programs lol10:26
unrealah, back, just gave my dad some fish, heh10:26
sturmkindthoreauputic: yes, a circus from germany *g*10:26
SeveasThE__OnE, install --reinstall10:26
Seveasnot remove --reinstall..10:26
ThE__OnEoops10:27
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bl4cktoneFormat C:10:27
bl4cktoneY10:27
unrealis there a quick way to reload xorg.conf?10:27
Echyloctrl alt backspace?10:27
Echylobut10:27
ThE__OnEthx seveas10:27
Echyloit restarts your session10:27
Echyloso close everything important10:28
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ThE__OnEand thx hondje10:28
hondjeYou are welcome10:28
hondjeThE__OnE: for other fun apt things, run 'man apt-get'10:28
mypapityeahh...  i'm able to connect to internet with ubuntu.... note to ubuntu developers, please make sure that there are obvious way for an average person person like me to connect through adsl/broadband... currently i have to find out by myself how to connect to internet like crazy10:28
unrealheh, i'm not running x atm, just wondering how to make it detect my mouse without reboot now that I updated xorg.conf10:28
unrealdoesn't matter, i'll reboot anyway, brb10:29
Echylo:D10:29
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EchyloAnyone knows : I get a .xinitrc error everytime I boot. (last session didn't last 10 seconds, and then .xinitrc line 47 couldn't exec xwmf) it happened after installing first xfce and then xfce410:29
Echylo?10:29
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thoreauputicEchylo: any particular reason you are using a .xinitrc file? It should be .xsession (.xinitrc is only there for legacy purposes)10:30
Echylodunno, it gives me that error10:30
Echyloeverytime it boots gdm10:30
Echyloit wants to do last session10:30
thoreauputicEchylo: and if you have 47 lines, that's one heck of a .xinitrc10:30
Echylothen what should i do?10:31
thoreauputicEchylo: did you write your own ~/.xinitrc ?10:31
unrealhmm10:31
Echylono :)10:31
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hondjewhere'd it come from?10:31
hondjeI have xfce4 installed, I don't have one :(10:32
EchyloI first installed xfce10:32
thoreauputicEchylo: is there a .xinitrc in your home dir ?10:32
Echylothen xfce410:32
Echylothoreauputic, yes10:32
thoreauputicEchylo: delete it10:32
Echylo:)10:32
Echylook10:32
thoreauputicEchylo: and choose xfce4 from login screen10:32
thoreauputicsessions10:32
Echylook10:32
Echylobtw anyone knows why gedit crashes in xfce when trying to paste something?10:32
thoreauputicEchylo: if you are paranoid, rename it instead ( eg mv .xinitrc .xinitrc.old )10:33
Echylo:)10:33
hondjeEchylo: You have hondje-itis! Mystical forces cause wacko crashes!10:33
Echylotoo late :p10:33
thoreauputicEchylo: that's OK10:33
Echylobut thanks :)10:33
unreal/dev/input/mouse1 works properly, I updated xorg.conf, and my mouse still doesn't seem to work10:33
thoreauputicEchylo: xfce4 should have given you a session entry anyway in gdm10:34
newbieunreal im having problems like you...10:34
unrealheh10:34
Echylo"you are not alone"10:34
newbieso if you found the solution pm...10:34
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bl4cktonedang I look down and keep seeing the words unreal10:35
bl4cktonelike every couple of mins it's something10:35
newbieunreal: but you can startx when booting with the default kernel?10:35
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Razor-Xuggghhhh.... i'm taking a break from Eterm configging10:35
unrealnewbie: nope, can't atm, it doesn't seem to like my graphics card I think10:35
bl4cktoneIt's so easy I mean if we all used linux then we would all be super villians heh10:36
unreal"Fatal server error: no screens found" heh10:36
Razor-Xif only someone could hellp me!10:36
newbieati?10:36
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unrealyup10:36
newbiecoz mine is ati 9200 se...10:36
newbiewaaaaa10:37
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unreallol10:37
signiusif everyone used Linux then we would all be scum and something like amiga OS would be the cool thing to use10:37
bl4cktoneRazor-X what's up10:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYhey anyone have any ideas of where to get a really cheap pci vid card?10:37
Razor-Xbl4cktone: Eterm's being a bitch to configure10:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYperferibly nvidia10:37
unrealI have an x740 in this box, but that's only so I can display things properly.. or not at the moment :)10:37
evtorbtrash10:37
thoreauputicunreal: run " sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg " and say "no" to the framebuffer question10:37
pepsiChurcH_of_FoamY, friends that are throwing them away10:37
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ChurcH_of_FoamYlol10:37
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newbieI've been configuring X last night but i can't fix it...so im giving up...10:37
bl4cktoneCheap pci video cards can be found at your local flea market10:37
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Choubakanewbie: If you have a 9200, use the open source drivers.10:37
pepsiChurcH_of_FoamY, seriously.. you know the type.. "i got a video card last week, but theres a new one.. so i got it"10:37
Choubakanewbie: choose "radeon" from xorg configuration10:38
Razor-Xbl4cktone: not only is it not displaying the damn image, it's saying the last line is too long (for reasons I can't comprehend) and10:38
bl4cktonerazor-x sorry I'm a n00b myself but I did stay at a holiday in last night10:38
hondjeI have a cheap PCI video card10:38
Razor-Xheh!10:38
hondjekicks ass10:38
ThE__OnEwhat woulld an address of something in my home folder be?10:38
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michael__(off topic) does anyone know what theme this is? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Xchat.png10:38
pepsiuh10:38
newbieChoubaka: I tried all the best solution but Im ending using the default setup of ubuntu to X server...10:38
Choubakanewbie: You get 3d acceleration, and best of all, without any non-free driver crap.10:38
newbieto run X server*10:39
thoreauputicThE__OnE:  /home/you/filename ?10:39
popeyerayubuntu10:39
bl4cktoneubuntu!10:39
Choubakanewbie: can you post your xorg.conf somewhere?10:39
newbienope right now?10:39
bl4cktoneoh no here comes spam action10:39
signiuswow that echelon really is stealth stuff was in and out of here and nobody knew LMAO10:39
bl4cktonexorg.conf all over the place10:39
ThE__OnEi think tht but it says cant find it10:39
newbiebut the problem lies on input mice...10:40
ThE__OnE/home/mojojojo/.xchat/weather.pl10:40
ThE__OnEis that correct?10:40
Razor-Xwell....10:40
Razor-Xthe fonts come out perfect in eterm10:40
thoreauputicThE__OnE: probably .xchat210:40
Razor-Xbut A) my image isn't working!10:40
ThE__OnEheh10:40
Razor-XB) the fonts are too damned small!10:40
ompaulmichael__, settings - preferences - colours will achieve the same output - unless you want to change your gnome theme :-)10:40
Razor-Xmother f*cker10:40
ompaulmichael__, I suspect it comes from the desktop mangler10:41
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bl4cktonerazor-x hmm eterm looks kinda cool10:41
unrealhrm10:42
Razor-Xbl4cktone: yeah, but the reason i'm switching Terminals is for _total_ control10:43
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=== unreal ran dpkg-reconfigure, seemed to detect things fairly nicely, but (EE) No devices found
thoreauputicRazor-X: for total control install aterm and read man aterm ;)10:46
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hondjethoreauputic: aterm is still around?110:48
thoreauputicyup10:48
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hondjewow10:48
hondjeany updates in the last, like 3 years?10:48
thoreauputichondje: so is rxvt ;)10:48
hondjehehe10:48
thoreauputichondje: don't know about updates10:48
hondjeand some people still prefer xterm10:48
thoreauputicxterm is OK10:48
unrealheh10:49
unrealthor/hondje: you have any ideas? (sorry to interupt :p)10:49
hondjeunreal: ideas? On what?10:49
thoreauputichondje: the only downside in aterm is utf8 support10:49
hondjeoh, I need that much10:49
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unrealthe mouse, and now the graphics card10:49
unreallol10:49
thoreauputicxterm has it though10:49
hondjeI like gnome term, I don't mind how much ram it sucks up10:49
hondjeunreal: what sorta graphics card?10:49
maeI have a gig o ram :)10:50
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thoreauputichondje: what annoys me with gnome-terminal is it's slow to start10:50
unreala radeon x740, it detects the name and everything10:50
hondjemae: And you damn well should use it ;-)10:50
ompaulmae, use qemu until you don't :-)10:50
maehehe10:50
maeqemu?10:50
hondjeqemu and tun!10:50
hondje:)10:50
unrealbut when I reboot it says (EE) No devices found, heh10:50
hondjeunreal: what did you do?10:50
hondjeoh, that's not good10:50
maewhat is qemu?10:50
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eb0xmae is a good band10:50
unrealI didn't do anything :010:50
hondjedpkg-reconfigure xorg?10:51
unrealer :)10:51
newbieUnreal: still fixing?10:51
unrealnewbie: yup, you fixed yours? heh10:51
newbienope10:51
unrealhondje: yeah, I did the thing thor suggested10:51
bl4cktonedang unreal been at it for a while10:51
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bl4cktonedamn mplayer pos going to kick it10:51
hondjesomeone keeps faxing shit10:51
newbiecan  I have a copy of your x.conf for me to analyze?10:51
maeanyone have the new dual-core amd ch ip?10:51
unreallol10:51
maeopteron10:52
unrealturn the fax machine off, *cough* :P10:52
ompaulmae, apt-get install qemu and you can run linux inside of linux - download a live iso and run it withing qemu and you can have an o/s in an o/s10:52
hondjeunreal: someone == someone boss wants to fax10:52
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thoreauputicbl4cktone: sudo apt-get install xine-ui ;)10:52
maeompaul: i see10:52
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hondjewhy 0250 is a good time to fax is beyond me10:52
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ompaulmae and the reason for doing this - test stuff and not get burn't10:53
Echylohow can I change my default loading window manager?10:53
maeic10:53
bl4cktonethoreauputic thanks man got the video working what do ya know10:53
thoreauputic:)10:53
ompaulmae or the real reason - because you can10:53
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bl4cktoneso now that mplyaer is locked up how do I close it?10:55
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thoreauputicEchylo: gdm should ask you if you want the current choice as default10:56
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unrealmmm sausage10:56
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bl4cktonemmm eggs10:56
thoreauputicbl4cktone: killall mplayer10:56
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maegnome/kde/gnome/kde which one?!10:56
thoreauputicbl4cktone: or pkill mplayer10:56
unrealmv black_sausage mah_fat_belly10:56
ompaulmae, qemu both :-)10:56
newbieboth10:57
ompaulmae, I use gnome others do too, and some use kde10:57
bl4cktonepkill worked10:57
newbiegnome is much faster than kde.10:57
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bl4cktonesweet10:57
newbiekde has lot of application.10:57
maenewbie: thats an ignorant statement10:57
bl4cktonehow do I tie xine to firefox?10:57
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi found it to be less easy to use than gnome10:58
newbiemae: huh?10:58
ompaulnewbie, both of them have the ability to run any applications the other one does (with the exception of the wm :))10:58
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thoreauputicmae: I guess you might cut some slack for someone using a nick like " newbie " ;)10:59
newbiewell, it was just my opinion.10:59
ompaulnewbie, they both have shed loads of stuff to run10:59
unrealheh10:59
thoreauputicnewbie: people's experiences vary - som ewould say the opposite10:59
newbieI dont think so...11:00
unrealdepends on the hardware I suppose :p11:00
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newbiegnome does'nt have compiler and office solution..11:00
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thoreauputicnewbie: on my box, kde feels quicker - but I prefer fluxbox anyway :)11:00
newbieme either and use kicker...heh11:01
thoreauputicnewbie: umm - compilers have absolutely nothing to do with desktops11:01
newbieKdevelop I mean...11:01
pepsii found kde's gui options to be much more plentiful than gnome's, but i dont like that, i want to be able to have a boring, default window setup.. yeah.. i changed the window theme, but no need to get into the fine details with options galore11:01
thoreauputicnewbie: anjuta11:01
newbieBut I like Gconf for gnome?11:02
ompaulthoreauputic, run gnome and kicker and have fun11:02
newbiedoes anyone agree with me...11:02
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thoreauputicompaul: nah, I'll run fluxbox, aterm and screen ;-)11:02
newbiegconf like registry in windoze11:02
pepsiyou dont even have to know that gconf exists...but all of kde's options are displayed in a huge jumble11:02
thoreauputicnewbie: the windows registry is a rat's nest of stupid design11:03
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ompaulthoreauputic, you are either (A) sick (B) running a low spec machine (C) conserving clock cycles (D) thoreauputic :)11:03
newbielol11:03
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pepsiresource forks are the answer!11:04
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bl4cktonetime to drink away my worries11:04
thoreauputicompaul: or (E) having a lend of you11:04
newbieDid someone tried to setup openmosix on Ubuntu?11:04
newbiesuccessfully11:04
bl4cktonegod it's 4 in the morning wish I was sleeping11:04
ompaulthoreauputic, I knew I was forgetting the (F) something else :)11:04
newbiecause thats my problem right now...11:04
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thoreauputicompaul: or (F) all of the above (G) none of the above ;-)11:05
thoreauputicheheh11:05
ompaulthoreauputic, how could you - now I need to use (H)11:06
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ChurcH_of_FoamYarghhh stupid xp11:06
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<11:06
ice_1963how con i change splash screen in gnome ???11:06
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newbiegconf /app/gnome-session/splash11:07
ice_1963ok thats it11:08
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newbiegood for you..11:08
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nisharthola11:10
newbiehola...11:11
Seveasaloh11:11
thoreauputicaloha11:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYdo you need wine to use cedega or is it the same thing?11:11
Seveascedega is an adapted version of wine11:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok11:12
newbienope11:12
neiltcan anybody recomend a good graphical bandwidth monitor app ?11:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm gonna try this program called grapevine supposed to be good11:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYand it works with cedega11:12
newbiewats grapevine anyway11:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYkinda like point2play but free11:12
ChurcH_of_FoamY<--dosen't have ccredit card11:12
newbieah...can I have the site?11:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYshure one sec11:13
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thoreauputicneilt: gkrellm will do monitoring11:14
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Mataresehi guys11:14
Mataresei have a question11:14
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fetmannewbie: http://www.grapevineproject.org/11:14
newbiegoogle How to ask the smart way?11:14
Mataresehow can I modify an ubuntu disk? (i want to add some files to it)11:14
newbiethanks11:14
Matarese(of course, by copying it to another cd)11:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://www.mithunc.net/grapevine/11:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYthats where i got mine from11:15
Mataresebut i don't know how to make it bootable11:15
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fetmannewbie: oops, that was someting else11:15
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ogahey... what's up guys11:15
fetmansry :)11:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYnewbie here's the link : http://www.mithunc.net/grapevine/11:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYhope that helps ^_^11:15
ogai have a problem11:16
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newbiegoogle How to ask the smart way?11:16
SeveasMatarese, liveCD or install CD?11:16
ogamy PC keeps rebooting and i think it might be the mother board overheating11:16
ogais there any way to monitor through ubuntu?11:16
Seveasoga, sure, try gdesklets11:16
MatareseSeveas: livecd11:16
hondjeoga: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors, install something like gkrellm, and then sudo /etc/init.d/lm-sensors start11:17
Seveasthere are sensor desklets11:17
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ogathanks guys11:17
oga(or girls)11:17
ompaulMatarese, have a look at beatrix which is remastered ubuntu11:17
SeveasMatarese, look at the LiveCDCustomizationHowTo on the wiki11:17
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Mataresethanks a lot11:17
ompaulnewbie, what are you trying to do ?11:17
newbiehuh?11:18
newbiewat do you mean?11:18
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ompaulnewbie, "newbie google How to ask the smart way?"11:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol11:18
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newbiecause some people does'nt know to ask the smart way...read that would help you...11:19
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newbiehow to ask*11:19
ThE__OnEwhich firewall shuld i get?11:19
ThE__OnEfor ubuntu11:19
hondjenewbie: this isn't the type of chan that berates people for not meeting ESR's standards11:19
ompaulhondje, but it helps :-)11:19
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SeveasThE__OnE, a firewall isn't really needed11:19
unrealargh11:19
hondjeThE__OnE: there is only one, you want a frontend :) I like firestarter11:19
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Seveasbut if you want one, I'd recommend firestarter11:20
hondjefirestarter makes smart rules11:20
maesigh.11:20
hondjeme likey11:20
maeI like shorewall11:20
thoreauputicmae: so use what you like :)11:20
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maethoreauputic: well i can integrate wondershaper with it nice and easily.11:21
maethoreauputic: it makes it braindead easy to setup nat'ing and such :)11:21
thoreauputicmae: nice that the choice is there for you, right ?11:21
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thoreauputicmae: right - firestarter makes NAT a one-click deal too11:21
hondjeC'mon, get your GNU/Hippy smile on11:21
maethoreauputic: oh don't bore me with this choice crap..11:21
ThE__OnEya because someone scanned me11:22
ThE__OnEand found my open ports11:22
hondjeThE__OnE: who cares if they're open?11:22
Seveashondje, http://yet.another.linux-nerd.com/wp-content/images/ubuntu-love.png11:22
maethoreauputic: never used it :) i just have never ran a gui on any server.11:22
hondjeIf you're not running a service, they can't do squat :)11:22
ThE__OnEyou mean they cant get in?11:22
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SeveasThE__OnE, open ports mean you installed a service11:22
Heimdallhi !11:22
thoreauputicmae: OK I'll ignore you then - sorry to be so boring11:22
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hondjeThE__OnE: if they could, it'd be major news11:22
Seveasand that must mean you want these ports to be open :)11:22
hondjeSeveas: haha, nice one11:23
ThE__OnEya butis'nt hacking done throu open ports?11:23
maethoreauputic: hehe, don't take offense.. it just irks me when people kill healthy debates with "well thats your choice and i'm glad its working for you"11:23
hondjeThE__OnE: No11:23
SeveasThE__OnE, yes, if they can exploit the service that opens this port...11:23
ThE__OnEya11:23
maedidn't mean to sound rude.. or belittle you in any way.11:23
ThE__OnEthats what i meant11:23
hondjeThey exploit something else11:23
Seveasbut you installed this service yourself11:23
hondjeOr they put stuff in /dev/shm!!!11:23
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SeveasThE__OnE, which ports exactly were found open?11:23
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ThE__OnEdont remember exactly11:24
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hondjeThE__OnE: you running any servers? ftp, ssh?11:24
ThE__OnEnope11:24
SeveasThE__OnE, or simply apache11:24
hondjeSeveas: drugs at a time like this? remount /dev/shm noexec, man!!!11:24
Seveasor enabled remote desktop...11:24
ThE__OnEya11:24
ThE__OnEremote desktop was enabled11:24
SeveasThE__OnE, if ports are open, YOU have opened them...11:25
ThE__OnEnot now thou11:25
hondjewhat's that remote desktop thing?11:25
cyphaseVNC?11:25
Seveashondje, vino11:25
hondjeI don't get it11:25
Seveasa vnc server11:25
hondjeso people watch your desktop?11:25
ompaulmae, fundemental to the ability to use Linux is the ability to choose the solution that you need, if you need less than the person beside you or more you can do that11:25
cyphaseif they have the password11:25
Seveashondje, watch and/or control if you allow them to11:25
ThE__OnEyup11:25
hondjeSeveas: oh, could be useful11:25
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ThE__OnEi had a few people do that11:25
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Seveasthat's so much better11:26
ompaulmae, without that you might as well get closed source software11:26
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SeveasThE__OnE, try netstat -t -l to see which ports are open11:26
Seveasand ignore all that have localhost in it11:26
ompaulunreal, the south pole has more penguins and less polar bears11:26
ThE__OnEwow11:26
ThE__OnEme like linux11:26
maeompaul: it's not that i disagree, I just think the choice thing is an overused cliche in the Opensource world.. sure you use what the best choice is, and one size does not fit all.. but there is also quite a bit of overlap and sometimes one _good_ choice would be better than three _so-so_ choices.. :)11:26
ThE__OnEalready11:26
bob2if I ever meet the person who invented the phrase "open ports", I will bludgeon them to death with a phone book11:26
unrealompaul: the south pole doesn't have midgets and a fat man in a red suit :P11:27
newbielol11:27
hondjebob2: probably was a sailor11:27
hondjeThat or Gibson11:27
bob2or that gibson idiot11:27
bob2hah11:27
ThE__OnEwell11:27
hondje:-D11:27
ThE__OnEbasically what i want to firewall is for that if someone pings me, iam not online11:27
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bob2ThE__OnE: you do know that is utterly pointless, right?11:27
Seveasbob2, well nmap shows as state 'open' too :)11:28
MatareseSeveas: in that document they are talking isolinux/boot.cat and isolinux/isolinux.bin but I don't have those files11:28
SeveasThE__OnE, you know that that is useless and breaking quite a bit of RFC's right?11:28
MatareseI have base/boot.cat11:28
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bob2Fyodor is on my list, too11:28
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hondjebob2: Fyodor's on your spastic ranter list?11:28
unrealnewbie: you got anywhere with you-know-what? :)11:28
ThE__OnERFD's?11:28
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Seveasbob2, heh, so must be the writers of the TCP rfc :)11:29
hondjeoh, I got it11:29
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hondjeLets put Gibson, DJB and Theo in a room together11:29
_alexis there a 64 bit version of ubuntu?11:29
Seveas_alex, yes11:29
bob2_alex: if you mean "amd64", yes11:29
ThE__OnEso if someone has my ip, they cant do nothing to it? not even ddos it?11:29
_alexthank you11:29
hondjeThE__OnE: you can't stop a ddos11:29
bob2ThE__OnE: of course they can ddos it11:29
SeveasThE__OnE, they can also ddos you if you disable ping replys...11:29
bob2ThE__OnE: you can't do anything at all to prevent that, firewall or no11:29
ThE__OnEoh11:30
hondje5 gbps ddos power :(11:30
ThE__OnEi was uder the idea that firewall can stop it for an extent11:30
bob2no11:30
bob2not at all11:30
SeveasThE__OnE, nope11:30
ThE__OnEahh i see11:30
hondjewell, syncookies is good11:30
hondjebut that only stops one of 10,000 attacks11:30
ThE__OnElol11:31
bob2ThE__OnE: all a firewall can do is throw away packets.  they can still throw 1.5mbit/s down your dsl line and drown out everything else.11:31
ThE__OnEyikes11:31
bob2(or however much bandwidth you have)11:31
ThE__OnEhow do i uninstall? sudo install --uninstall firestarter?11:31
bob2yeah11:31
ThE__OnEoooops11:31
Seveassudo aptitude purge firestarter11:31
ThE__OnEhow do i uninstall? sudo apt-get install --uninstall firestarter?11:31
hondjesudo apt-get remove --purge firestarter11:31
bob2well, sudo apt-get remove firtarter11:32
Choubaka:P11:32
hondjeuse purge on it, or else the initscript might stay11:32
ThE__OnEthx11:32
ThE__OnEgreat info11:32
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hondjedo rca lyras mount in linux?11:32
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ThE__OnESeveas ThE__OnE, you know that that is useless and breaking quite a bit of RFC's right? <<>>what are RFC's?11:33
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hondjeit's a CF reader, recorder, mp3 playing usb hdd...even mounts using the usbstorage mod11:33
bob2hondje: g-v-m even mounts my iaudio as /media/IAUDIO/ automatically11:34
thoreauputicThE__OnE: Requests For Comment - sort of internet standards11:34
hondjebob2: oh, kick ass...my brother is coming by tomorrow, I'm going to buntu him up11:34
hondjeTired of him crying about spyware11:34
bob2hehe11:34
ThE__OnEahh ok11:35
ThE__OnE=)11:35
Matareseso, any clue how to make a warty livecd bootable?11:35
thoreauputicMatarese: umm - it already is, by definition: what do you actually mean?11:35
ompaulthoreauputic,  Matarese is trying to remaster a CD11:36
thoreauputicah I see :)11:36
Mataresethoreauputic: I copied it to harddisk, mounted as loopback, added some files and I want to write it back on a bootable cd11:36
thoreauputicMatarese: right, sorry my mistake11:36
Mataresebut I don't know what to pass for boot_image to mkisofs11:36
newbiematarese: google LFS hints howto make livecd11:36
SeveasThE__OnE, the internet standards say that you must reply to an incoming ICMP request (aka ping)11:36
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hondjeDamn the Icmp man :(11:37
SeveasMatarese, warty livecd's are obsolete11:37
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Heimdallis there a graphical tool to configure my network card in ubuntu ?11:38
Seveasuse the Hoary livecd11:38
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Seveasit's much easier to remaster11:38
cyphaseHeimdall, yes11:38
MatareseSeveas: it's what I have here, and I don't have the time to download a 600MB image now11:38
cyphaseHeimdall, System -> Administration -> Networking11:38
Matareseor another question11:38
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SeveasMatarese, well, good luck that, go to the knoppix/morphix website and try to find info there11:38
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Heimdallcyphase : hum no, this is to configure the network, but I want to configure my device11:39
Matareseis there any way that I can unmount the livecd if I booted from it?11:39
SeveasHeimdall, what do you mean with 'configure the device'?11:39
hondjeMatarese: paperclip?11:39
cyphaseHeimdall, what do you need to configure?11:39
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zeverHeimdall /usr/bin/network-admin11:40
HeimdallSeveas, cyphase : I don't really know, it seems that my card is not working since ubuntu is telling me that eth0 is not connected11:40
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SeveasHeimdall, wired or wireless?11:40
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Heimdallwired11:40
cyphaseHeimdall, System -> Administration -> Networking will do it11:41
cyphasethat configures the device11:41
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SeveasHeimdall, then the networking thing will do it..11:41
Heimdallbut I did it11:41
stjepanhi11:41
ThE__OnEso you guys using irssi or xchat?11:41
stjepanhow can I edit list of window managers at login?11:41
cyphasethen the card isn't supported (unlikely), or your doing something wrong11:41
SeveasThE__OnE, some use irssi, some xchat :)11:41
cyphaseThE__OnE, xchat11:41
ChurcH_of_FoamY<--xchat11:41
stjepanI want to add a window manager11:41
joblixchat11:41
SeveasHeimdall, in the terminal type: sudo mii-diag eth011:41
stjepanin what file is it?11:41
ThE__OnEwow11:42
ThE__OnEsoo many xchat11:42
Seveasand see whether it says 'You hav link beat'11:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYhey has anyone tryed this 3d desktop thingy?11:42
jnoreikohi11:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYfor ubuntu?11:42
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, is massively unstable :|11:42
cyphaseThE__OnE, soo many didn't answer11:42
cyphase;)11:42
ThE__OnEis there any way to get the whole window transparent like irssi?11:42
HeimdallSeveas, cyphase : you can look at this : http://nico.aunai.free.fr/tmp/RES.TXT11:42
jnoreikodoes anyone know anything about networking ubuntu & OS X?11:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYok thanx for the warning11:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYi was gonna try it but i like my system stable11:42
jnoreikoI have my powerbook and PC hooked up with an ethernet cable, but they're not seeing each other11:42
hondjejnoreiko: oh, I do!11:42
stjepana?11:42
stjepanso?11:42
SeveasHeimdall, you have no IP address, have you enabled DHCP or set a static address?11:42
hondjejnoreiko: use either samba or nfs, obth work great11:43
Heimdallstatic11:43
Matareseaha! found it!11:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYyou need a crossover cable to do that11:43
SeveasHeimdall, then you forgot to set the IP address :)11:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's just like a regular ethernet cable but the11:43
bob2jnoreiko: you'd need to setup ip addresses for them, unles you configured zeroconf on the ubuntu side11:43
jnoreikopowerbook ethernet does the crossover thing automagically11:43
bob2ChurcH_of_FoamY: not with mac (or ibm) laptops11:43
HeimdallSeveas : no11:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYpin configuration is diffrent11:43
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ChurcH_of_FoamYreally?11:43
bob2yes11:43
HeimdallSeveas : 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.011:43
jnoreikomy mac is set to be 1.1.1.1, and I've just told Ubuntu to be 1.1.1.2 ...11:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYi had one hell of a time getting my 2 computers to speak with just a regular cat 511:44
SeveasHeimdall, set it in the networking applet11:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYi had to get a speacal cable to do it11:44
Seveasbecause the output you give says that you haven't set it..11:44
bob2ChurcH_of_FoamY: yes, other computers need it11:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow do you do it with just a regular cat5 then11:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok11:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYi see11:44
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hondjeuse plip!11:44
bob2jnoreiko: does the ubuntu machine have a route to the mac one?11:44
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HeimdallSeveas : in system, admin, networking ?11:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's that "mac is better than pc" thing ^_^11:44
jnoreikoaha!11:44
SeveasHeimdall, yes...11:44
jnoreikoit works :)11:45
HeimdallSeveas : I did it11:45
hondjeI think I'm the one guy in the world that got plip, linux, and windowsME working together :D11:45
jnoreikoI just did connect to smb://1.1.1.211:45
mcquaidplip?11:45
SeveasHeimdall, and have you hit the activate button too?11:45
jnoreikoit wasn't showing in OS X's network browser though11:45
HeimdallSeveas : it is telling me that eth0 is active11:45
ThE__OnEis there any way to get the whole window transparent like irssi? no right?11:45
thoreauputic_who was asking about adding windowmanagers? The files you want are in /usr/share/xsessions11:45
kcburyshakeroh man   all these people having problems...and here i am ...having just installed ubuntu last night and just wanting to say i love it11:45
SeveasHeimdall, and the properties tell you it's configured and has the right IP address?11:45
stjepanoh11:45
stjepanhelp11:45
hondjemcquaid: network w/ parallel cables and stuff like that11:46
jnoreikothanks :)11:46
HeimdallSeveas : but the little icon in the right top of the screen is telling me that eth0 is disconnected11:46
hondjeoh, time to work!11:46
mcquaidah11:46
SeveasHeimdall, in the terminal type: sudo mii-diag eth011:46
Seveasand see whether it says 'You hav link beat'11:46
thoreauputic_stjepan: was it you asking about wm stuff ?11:46
HeimdallI did, wait I'll show you11:46
ThE__OnEkcburyshaker, most of the people have problems with linux, not ubuntu, since their new to linux like me11:46
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kcburyshakeras am i11:46
kcburyshakerlinux is totally new to me11:46
kcburyshakerbut im liking what i see so far11:47
ThE__OnElike a day new?11:47
kcburyshakeryes11:47
Seveaskcburyshaker, welcome aboard the Ubuntu ship then :)11:47
HeimdallSeveas : http://nico.aunai.free.fr/tmp/RES2.TXT11:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYubuntu is the linux newbs heavin ^_^11:47
ThE__OnEjoin the club11:47
stjepanthoreauputic: yes11:47
SeveasHeimdall, there's something wrong with the physical connection11:47
Seveasfix that first11:47
HeimdallSeveas : and this too : http://nico.aunai.free.fr/tmp/RES.TXT11:47
ThE__OnEok i installed the program gift, where do i find it?11:47
kcburyshakertook me a bit to figure out i had to install some stuff on my own...but once i got to the right page  (the ubuntuguide FAQ)  i was allright11:48
HeimdallSeveas ; what do you mean the "physical connection" ?11:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there another way to get flash 7?11:48
SeveasHeimdall, if you have multiple network cards (like an onboard one and a real card or two real cards) check whether it's conencted to the right socket11:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYit seems the repo version has broken sound :(11:48
SeveasHeimdall, i mean the cable11:48
SeveasHeimdall, the cable is broken or not connected well...11:48
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mcquaidsome things i don't agree with in the ubuntuguide, like adding marrilat sources, esp stable,unstable, and testing11:49
thoreauputicstjepan: have a look in that directory: you should find a gnome.desktop file - use it as a template11:49
mcquaidwhatever sense taht makes11:49
Seveasotherwise mii-diag would have said "You have link beat" instead of "Link status: not established"11:49
hondjecrap, no work to be done :(11:49
HeimdallSeveas : well I have only one ethernet card in my laptop, but ubuntu is telling me about two interfaces : Io and eth011:49
Seveasmcquaid, ubuntuguide is crap...11:49
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SeveasHeimdall, that's lo11:49
hondjemcquaid: marillat can be useful, but not the way they present it in that damn guide :(11:49
HeimdallSeveas : whats io ?11:49
mcquaidagreed11:49
Seveasand lo is the loopback interface that provides localhost/127.0.0.111:49
Seveasyou need that :)11:49
hondjethey need to mention pinning11:50
ThE__OnEok i installed the program gift, where do i find it?11:50
kcburyshakerthat guide did get me to install certain needed things11:50
kcburyshakerso it isnt total crap11:50
SeveasHeimdall, then check on your router/switch if the cable is connected good...11:50
mcquaidi've held off on adding marillat, backports has most of it taken care of at this piont11:50
Seveaskcburyshaker, it gives bad information, no explanations and very suboptimal solutions11:50
HeimdallSeveas ; it is a direct connection between two computers11:50
Seveasso, crap :)11:50
kcburyshakerlike java..flash...the multimedia drivers   stuff like that11:50
hondjemcquaid: the codecs pkg, and the libdivxdecore0/encore0 are all I've needed from there11:50
SeveasHeimdall, then check it on the other pc and make sure you have a crossover cable...11:51
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thoreauputicmcquaid: backports can cause breakage too, unfortunately11:51
mcquaidnot here so far11:51
hondjeonly needed the last two when building transcode from apt-get source11:51
hondjethoreauputic: but it's Official Breakage now11:51
jnoreikois there a simple way to see how much free space there is on all my drives?11:51
thoreauputichondje: hah11:51
mcquaidlol11:51
Seveasjnoreiko, df -h11:51
hondjejnoreiko: df -h11:51
mcquaidtranscode is in backports now i believe11:51
hondjeSeveas beats me this time11:51
Seveasha, beat ya doggy :p11:51
hondjemcquaid: I don't use backports, easier to make my own11:51
jnoreikocool!11:52
hondjeeasier == I don't get paranoid11:52
Seveasmuha :)11:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhats a backport?11:52
ThE__OnEanyone?11:52
Seveasand you don't get backport breakage ;)11:52
SeveasThE__OnE, dpkg -L gift11:52
hondjeChurcH_of_FoamY: a real backport is a package made to run on older distros, like using 2.6 kernel in debian woody11:52
Seveasthen you can see where it installed itself11:52
kcburyshakeris there a site that has a list of all the commands you could use in the terminal?11:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok i see11:52
hondjeChurcH_of_FoamY: ubuntu backports is just repacking11:52
thoreauputicThE__OnE: please don't /msg without asking11:53
Seveaskcburyshaker, rofl, there's too much of them :)11:53
mcquaidhondje, hwo do you go about making your own?11:53
kcburyshakerlol11:53
kcburyshakerthats what i thought11:53
hondjemcquaid: well, depends on the situation11:53
mcquaiddo you mean from deb srcs, or your making .debs from source?11:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone get ubuntu to run on a thinkpad 390E?11:53
Seveas'11:53
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hondjemcquaid: both11:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYi found one in the basement and want to use it with ubuntu11:53
hondjekcburyshaker: I got THE link for you11:53
kcburyshakerhow about a general linux news site  anyone have a good link for that?11:53
hondjehttp://www.slashdot.org11:54
kcburyshakerok hondje11:54
newbietldp.org11:54
hondjehehe11:54
Seveashondje, slashdot isn't about news11:54
mcquaidi'd really like to learn how to make .debs from source, the deb maintainers guide seemed a little much for me at first glance11:54
Seveasit's about trolling...11:54
hondjeget all your latest gossip on volkerdings lungs11:54
hondjeSeveas: which fits me well :)11:54
Seveas:o)11:54
mcquaidhondje, is there a quick and dirty guide for stuff that compiles without issue?11:54
hondjemcquaid: really quick and dirty, use checkinstall11:54
mcquaidah11:54
hondjeinstead of make install11:54
hondjebut checkinstall sucks11:55
thoreauputicmcquaid: quick and dirty way is with checkinstall - but it isn't the "approved and complete" way11:55
hondjeyou can't take those debs and sahre them11:55
newbiecheckinstall really sucks...11:55
mcquaidi haven't used it in sid but checkinstall crapped out on me a few times11:55
mcquaidi'd like to knwo the real way11:55
thoreauputichondje: I have to take speed typing lessons...11:55
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hondjekcburyshaker: http://www2.hs-harz.de/~bmueller/extern/linuxmanual.pdf "The One Page Linux Manual"11:55
kcburyshakerhttp://distrowatch.com/     this is what i was after11:55
ChurcH_of_FoamYi search and peck lol11:55
thoreauputicnewbie: no, it doesn't suck for personall use11:55
newbiewaaaaaa11:56
hondjemcquaid: most of what you'd want, you're just taking a pkg from one distro, say etch, and making it hoary-fied...11:56
thoreauputicnewbie: on what basis do you think it sucks?11:56
newbiethoreauputic: I rather use dpkg-deb11:56
mcquaidhondje, do you use checkinstall method or you were suggesting that as  a quick way to do it?11:56
hondjemcquaid: the easy way to do that is to apt-get source the pkg, then build it using something like sudo fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot11:56
newbiecause I use to download YAST4debian....11:56
thoreauputicnewbie: of course - but sometimes you want source that isn't in the repos11:56
kcburyshakerdamn  thats a nice little pdf too   thanks hondje11:57
hondjethat'll let you fuss with the rules, control, etc11:57
hondjekcburyshaker: no problem11:57
newbiekcburyshaker: Have you tried tldp.org(THe linux doc. proj.)11:57
hondjemcquaid: but making a deb from just raw source from some project is a fairly complex thing, I'm still learning that one11:57
newbieIt has a lot of howto's and guides as well.11:58
kcburyshakerok11:58
hondjemcquaid: for that, read http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/11:58
hondjeIt has a decent quick-start guide11:58
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genk0server.arrakis.es11:58
mcquaidi'll look that over again11:59
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ChurcH_of_FoamYfound a really nice linux dictionary on pdf11:59
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hondjemcquaid: but back to the important part, the backports stuff just does the repackaging like I was saying11:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYno i can decipher linux speak11:59
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thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: URL ?11:59
Heimdall_Seveas : sorry I have been disconnected12:00
hondjemcquaid: basically add whatever distro's repos, apt-get source it, and get it to build 'well enough'12:00
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Heimdall_as soon as the networked as enabled12:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYyou know i found it about a moth ago but i can give it to ya if ya want12:00
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thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: no, don't worry - I'll google ;)12:00
mcquaidok for ex, say there is something in breezy right now, once i grab the deb src i just fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot?12:00
ThE__OnEhow come the program that i install are'nt apprearing in the Applications tab?12:00
hondjemcquaid: exactly12:01
mcquaidok thx12:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's called linux-Dictonary.pdf12:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYif that helps12:01
CL4RKanyone can speak in indonesia lang12:01
hondjemcquaid: though you probably want to check for dependancies, maybe edit the ./configure options passed in the 'rules' file12:01
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: thanks :)12:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYand theres a really nice one called intro-linux.pdf too12:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYwelcome12:01
CL4RKi need help12:01
hondjemcquaid: oh, helps a TON if you pin your sources right...apt-get build-dep12:01
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hondjemcquaid: that'll build the packages you need to compile your new deb :)12:02
mcquaidah cool12:02
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hondjeNot that it's any different than what they do, other than I don't suggest ignoring build deps12:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow to make mozilla thunderbird the default email client?12:02
hondjeChurcH_of_FoamY: system -> preferences -> prefered apps12:03
mcquaidya i wouldn't agree with ignoring build deps either, they do that?12:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYok thanx ^_^12:03
hondjemcquaid: yessir, it's in the how-to starter thing they wrote12:03
newbiehonje: there is a howto in tldp.org which guides you to make debs.12:03
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Dictionary/Linux-Dictionary.pdf << this looks like the one ?12:03
hondjenewbie: yeah, I read those once :)  I think the new-maintainer guide is a bit clearer12:03
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hondjethanks for the thought, though!12:04
newbieok then...12:04
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: woah - 8MB of linux dictionary!!12:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYlet me check12:04
BoD_SWATI've used the 'mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1' command to mount my hd. It doesn't have default write permissions. Any idea why? (it's SATA & linux partition)12:04
BROKEN_LADDERTHE NEW batman rules!12:04
hondjesomeday I'll grok it, and become as powerful as bob212:04
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newbieI uses that guide to makes deb...hehe12:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYyep thats it12:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYthats the one ^_^12:04
hondjenewbie: hrm, which one then? I must have missed the really-simple one :)12:04
RickAhas anyone here been able to install the new ATI drivers?12:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's really nice it really is like a dictionary12:05
BROKEN_LADDERBoD_SWAT you didn't give it any.12:05
newbiethe tldp...12:05
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BROKEN_LADDERBoD_SWAT you'd need to have a mask set in the mount command or in /etc/fstab12:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol12:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYi know theres so much in there12:05
BoD_SWATBROKEN_LADDER, thats always needed?12:05
bartekpBoD_SWAT: -o umask=02212:05
BROKEN_LADDERBoD_SWAT absolutely.12:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYi only use it when i can't understand somethings that are said here12:05
BROKEN_LADDERBoD_SWAT otherwise it will use the default, of course.12:05
BoD_SWATBROKEN_LADDER, bartekp thnx, that's all I needed to know  :-)12:06
ThE__OnEhow come the program that i install are'nt apprearing in the Applications tab?12:06
unrealhondje: I think my graphics card problem is due to the PCI12:06
bartekphm, write? umask=00012:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhich means it's always open :(12:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol12:06
unrealtail: cannot open `/var/log/messages' for reading: Permission denied12:06
BROKEN_LADDERThE__OnE because that program's installer didn't create one.12:06
unrealer, wrong window12:06
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hondjeunreal: what do you mean?12:06
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Heimdall_I'd like to share files between a distant windows and my ubuntu in an IP network.... without using samba, what do you advise to me ? ftp ?12:06
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BROKEN_LADDERThE__OnE the files that define those application launchers are in /usr/share/applications12:07
BROKEN_LADDERThE__OnE you can use one of them in there as a template file and create your own.12:07
hondjeHeimdall: scp is the bomb :)12:07
unrealhondje: /var/log/messages throws up "Bad PCI agent invocation"12:07
hondjeHeimdall: install the openssh server on ubuntu, and get winscp for the windows box12:07
Seveas...and use ssh keys :)12:07
hondjeunreal: what about /var/log/Xorg.0.log?12:07
hondjeyes, keys are sexy12:07
unrealheh, that log throws up "(EE) No devices detected", etc12:08
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hondjeunreal: lspci -vvv | grep ati12:08
newbieunreal: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-13219.html12:08
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RickAI get:  'No kernel module build environment' error12:09
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mcquaidnewbie, talking about this one? http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/index.html12:09
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HappyFoolthoreauputic: maybe an uncompressed file?12:10
kcburyshakeri have a puter that came with "integrated video card"   i bought a cheap nvidia PCI card for it  now with ubuntu   the nvidia card dont work, and it itegrated vid hookup runs better here than it ever did with winxp12:10
hondjekcburyshaker: irony12:10
thoreauputicah rats, it went back to 5 again :(12:10
hondjekcburyshaker: why doesn't the nvidia work?12:10
HappyFooli found that downloading the initial few MB of the ubuntu amd iso had a high rate12:10
kcburyshakeri dunno   i followed the instructions to get it to work in that FAQ to the letter12:11
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Heimdall_but ssh doesn't allow me to share files ?12:11
hondjeHeimdall: use scp12:11
hondje'cp' copies, 'scp' does it over ssh, basically12:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there a better messenger than gaim?12:11
kcburyshakerthe x server thing and the card dont like each other12:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYi used this thing called sim but i lost it :(12:12
hondjekcburyshaker: hrm12:12
jnoreikocan I mount an ISO file as a volume?12:12
kcburyshakerhrm?   is that a command?12:12
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HappyFooljnoreiko: yes. you can also 'browse' iso's using nautilus12:12
hondjekcburyshaker: nah, a sound ;)12:12
Seveasjnoreiko, yes12:12
kcburyshakerlol12:12
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Heimdall_hondje : scp allow to send and receive files... not to list etc....12:13
hondjeHeimdall_: sftp is good too, then :)12:13
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kcburyshakerim happy with the way things are now   i dont use the PC for games the nvidia card isnt such a big thing12:13
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Heimdall_hondje hehe12:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYfor my winbox i use network active webserver12:13
lamberthello12:13
mcquaidi tried to setup my bro's box with ubuntu, but his nvidia keeps locking up randomly, i can't figure it out, he gets some type of nvrm error12:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's free from www.download.com12:13
hondjeHeimdall_: I try to use openssh as much as I can, since it's so easy to set up, secure, etc12:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYreally easy ftp server12:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYfor winboxes12:14
mcquaidwhich i've seen mentioned all the time at nvnews.net linux channel but no solution12:14
hondjemcquaid: cache problem thingie?12:14
Heimdall_hondje : yes but, I have to create a serve on my linux machine ?12:14
jnoreikosupposing my ISO file is the Hoary install CD... how to I tell synaptic to update from it?12:14
lambert+12:14
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mcquaidhondje, yes i believe thats it12:14
kcburyshakerbut ill say this   it was a nice feeling erasing winxp from my hard drive12:14
lobo_nzCHow can I fix this error from mpg123? - can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?) I've found allot of references to the problem but no solutions.12:14
Seveasaraw1-, please turn that off in here12:14
Heimdall_there is no ftpd on the ubuntu cd12:15
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thoreauputiclobo_nz: edit /etc/libao.conf or similar, and change the default12:15
masahiroSTILL, I HAVE NO SOUND!!! AAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!!!12:15
HappyFooljnoreiko: probably easiest to mount the ISO in that case12:15
HappyFoolmasahiro: please do not use caps12:15
mcquaidhondje, do you know a solution to that?12:15
masahiroim fed up of no sound12:15
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hondjeHeimdall_: I _think_ sftpd is sshd12:16
masahiroand everything i try dosen't work12:16
kcburyshakeri thought silence was golden12:16
lobo_nzthoreauputic: what to? oss or alsa?12:16
HappyFooljnoreiko: you'll need a 'mount point', which is just a directory somewhere; perhaps create a dir in your home directory12:16
hondjemcquaid: No, try latest drivers and if that doesn't work file bug reports :(12:16
thoreauputiclobo_nz: I have mine set to oss for instance12:16
Seveaslol kcburyshaker ;)12:16
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masahironot on a pc which is a media center pc12:16
Heimdall_hondje : what ???12:16
thoreauputiclobo_nz: try either - oss works for me12:16
Heimdall_it is the same ?12:16
HappyFooljnoreiko: so, 'mkdir ismount'; then 'sudo mount -o loop ubuntuimg.iso isomount'12:16
lobo_nzthoreauputic: ok thanks12:16
SteveGrifanyone know how to get hddtemp to check the temperature of a hard disk without using sudo12:16
SteveGrif?12:16
mcquaidpreviously he was on mandrake 10, which didn't give him issue with his nvidia card12:16
HappyFooljnoreiko: oops, that should be 'mkdir isomount'12:17
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thoreauputiclobo_nz: I'm not using esd though (I have dmix set up)12:17
mcquaidso i was looking at what that came with and it had 2.6.3 and xfree8612:17
masahirois there any way of getting a realtek ac '97 onboard chip to work with ubunutu?12:17
hondjeHeimdall_: I could be on crack, but I'm pretty sure it is12:17
mcquaidi was thinking either xorg or 2.6.10 has something that doesn't agree with his setup12:17
hondjemcquaid: mdk10 using nv or nvidia driver?12:17
masahirobefore i reformat and go back to windoze12:17
mcquaidnvidia12:17
hondjehr12:17
mcquaidhe played q3 and et all the time in it12:17
hondjemcquaid: I'd give the ones from nvidia's site a sping12:18
hondje-g12:18
lobo_nzthoreauputic: its set to esd but my sound works fine except for mpg123, I mean system sounds and xine etc, just not mpg12312:18
thoreauputicmasahiro: ac97 isn't the chip - it's a codec I believe12:18
masahirowell its compatible anywho12:18
mcquaidya i tried a few, even tried compiling the kernel to turn off the rivafb driver12:18
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jnoreikoHappyFool, it says mount: could not find any device /dev/loop#12:18
masahiroi know its made by realtek and it's onboard12:18
HappyFooljnoreiko: hmm. you're running warty ?12:19
HappyFooljnoreiko: i.e., older release of ubuntu ?12:19
jnoreikoyup, warty12:19
thoreauputiclobo_nz: I'm just passing on what I did: I wanted cplay to work with mpg123 and ogg123 and that did it for me12:19
HappyFooljnoreiko: standby12:19
hondjemasahiro: I think I have that sound stuff12:19
lobo_nzthoreauputic: sweet, will try that12:19
masahirohow did you get it to work?12:19
HappyFooljnoreiko: try 'sudo modprobe loop'12:19
hondjeno, mines intel, realtek == onboard network, sorry12:19
HappyFooljnoreiko: then try the modprobe command again12:19
thoreauputiclobo_nz: just edit ti - if it doesn't work change it12:19
HappyFooljnoreiko: sorry , the mount command12:20
masahiroah ok12:20
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jnoreikobingo. thanks, HappyFool :)12:20
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HappyFooljnoreiko: no problem12:20
RickAhow can I uninstall old video drivers?12:20
HappyFooljnoreiko: i'm not helluva sure if you can use the iso as a repository directly12:21
masahiroim soon going to switch back to evil, evil micro$oft12:21
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masahirobecayse everything i try fails miserably12:21
jnoreikono, I was about to say, I'm not sure Synaptic wants to see it.... never mind, I'll burn the ISO properly12:21
liablemasahiro: well, do that, dont try and think the problem through. :(12:22
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HappyFooljnoreiko: well, it would be interesting to try12:22
HappyFooljnoreiko: but maybe you'd rather just get it working ;)12:22
masahirowell everything that i try still dosent work12:22
hondjeliable: that's not a fair statement, I do declare12:22
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masahirobut i think that it isnt detecting the sound chip12:22
jnoreikomaybe with a file:// URL in the repo list?12:22
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hondjeNewbies are very lost in an unfamiliar environment, it's like asking high schoolers to talk about special relativity12:22
jamey3I want to get a new graphics card, probably a vanilla GeForce 6600. Does anyone have any experience running recent 3D games under Ubuntu?12:22
masahiroRephrase: I think that it is not detecting my sound chip.12:23
HappyFooljnoreiko: maybe. i think apt-get / synaptic also need files called 'Packages.gz' and 'Release', something like that12:23
hondjemasahiro: in a terminal, run lspci -vvv, and find the soundcard part12:23
thoreauputichondje: I used to talk about general relativity in high school - does that count ? ;)12:23
hondjemasahiro: then, type /query hondje , and paste it to me in the new tab12:23
HappyFooljnoreiko: oh, wait, those files are in the dists directory12:23
hondjethoreauputic: No, you also run linux :)12:23
thoreauputicheheh12:24
HappyFooljnoreiko: try file:///home/jnoreiko/isomount hoary main restricted     and see if it finds anything12:24
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HappyFooljnoreiko: that is,  'deb file:///home/jnoreiko/isomount   hoary main restricted'12:25
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HappyFooljnoreiko: and comment out all the warty entries12:25
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unrealblag, mouse still doesn't work12:25
liablemasahiro: ok, whats 'lspci |grep audio' say?12:26
liablesudo even12:26
tombshi ppl12:26
liablemasahiro: in your post you tried to modprobe without using sudo12:27
jnoreikoI've added the mount in Synaptic, and refreshed. seems to work12:27
HappyFooljnoreiko: cool12:27
jnoreikolots of packages are marked as upgradable, and have HOary listed in available versions12:28
HappyFooljnoreiko: you'll need to do a 'smart upgrade'12:28
jnoreikowhat's that?12:28
liablemasahiro: whats 'sudo lsmod' show?12:28
XRoaderHi, I'm trying to configure XMMS but when, the terminal tells me: "GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed" but having searched this on Google I think I discovered it is actually installed, does anybody know what I can do to make Ubuntu know Glib is installed12:28
HappyFooljnoreiko: um, equivalent to 'apt-get dist-upgrade'  --- it's what you use to upgrade to a new release12:28
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XRoaderbut when I try, the terminal tells me*12:29
HappyFooljnoreiko: i'm not sure of the precise difference ;)12:29
HappyFooljnoreiko: i think you should be prompted for a 'normal' or 'smart' upgrade when you click 'Apply'12:29
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HappyFooljnoreiko: if you're not, look in 'Settings -> Preferences' to enable prompting12:30
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topylieverything cool seems to be Mono these days12:30
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topylitis weird12:31
thoreauputicXRoader: not sure what you are doing, but sounds like you got xmms from some non-Ubuntu source?12:31
XRoaderyes, their website12:31
thoreauputicXRoader: or a plugin or something...12:31
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HappyFooljnoreiko: good luck. bbiab12:31
thoreauputicXRoader: ah - don't do that then12:31
jnoreikothanks for your help, HappyFool :)12:31
thoreauputicXRoader: xmms is in the universe repository I believe12:31
XRoaderI've tried searching for it on the synaptic package manager (after enabling the universal section) but I cannot seem to find the right XMMS file12:32
p-h-iyes12:32
XRoadertheres so many packages and I cannot seem to find the one which applies to me12:32
topylixmms reminds me of the 80s :)12:32
thoreauputicXRoader: apt-cache search xmms ; choose ; sudoapt-get install xmms12:32
thoreauputic* sudo apt-get install12:32
thoreauputicXRoader: it's just xmms afaik12:33
XRoaderThanks :)12:33
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mcquaidXRoader, thats weird xmms is giving u issues, should work without a problem, but have you tried beep media player instead?12:33
thoreauputicXRoader: apt-cache search can be much quicker than opening synaptic12:33
mcquaidit's just like xmms but intergrates better with gnome12:33
XRoaderCould you recommend me a website or book which will teach me these things, or at least the fundamentals behind it12:33
thoreauputicmcquaid: he installed from a third party12:34
mcquaidah12:34
mcquaiddoh12:34
XRoadermcquaid: I've never heard of beep to be honest, I'll check it out if I cannot get XMMS working from this12:34
thoreauputic!faq12:34
ubotuthoreauputic: Bugger all, i dunno12:34
thoreauputicrats12:34
topyliXRoader: beep is the same thing, except uses the gtk2 toolkit12:34
XRoaderI see, I really should read a book which tells what gtk2 is :P12:35
topyliheh12:35
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topyliXRoader: it's a graphics toolkit that gnome is based on12:35
thoreauputicXRoader: good starting point: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/12:35
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XRoaderThanks both of you :)12:36
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thoreauputicXRoader: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com//12:37
thoreauputicXRoader: lots of stuff on the wiki12:37
XRoaderThanks, do you recommend I buy Linux in a Nutshell?12:37
XRoaderor is that not required since I've not got those websites bookmarked12:38
XRoadernow*12:38
thoreauputicXRoader: as a start, i'd aim a bit lower and read http://tuxfiles.org12:38
GNULinuxerXRoader, linux in a nutshell is not ubuntu specific12:38
topyliXRoader: some people like books, personally i've been ok with the web12:38
thoreauputicXRoader: linux in a nutshell is also a bit... well - a big nutshell ;)12:38
hondjeI've found the best way to learn is to find smart people and listen to them help others12:39
XRoaderthoreauputic: Right, thanks, I'll bookmark that too12:39
hondjeOr browse help forums, like linuxquestions or the ATU forum at broadbandreports12:39
Seveashondje, so that's why you habg out here :)12:39
thoreauputictuxfiles is a good intro to the commands12:39
XRoadergnulinuxer: I know but I was thinking I should learn the Linux fundmanetals before learning specifics12:39
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hondjeSeveas: No, I hang out here because I feel smart ;-)12:39
Seveashondje, ewww12:39
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Seveasmisconception :)12:39
kcburyshakerive also tried the book thing.....but i have found that these IRC rooms are a greater help than any book could be12:39
XRoadertopyli: I don't know why but I hate reading guides online, I must print them off, shame...12:39
GNULinuxerXRoader, you mean you don't know the fundamentals?12:39
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topyliXRoader: http://www.debian.org/doc/ too. most of it applies to ubuntu12:39
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thoreauputicXRoader: be aware if you buy books, a  lot of them are Redhat/Fedora based12:40
hondjewhere else can I actually contribute, #debian? :D12:40
GNULinuxerXRoader, in that case, you might want to try "Debian GNU/Linux 3.x Bible"12:40
XRoaderGNULinuxer: Nope :( Did I rush into installing Linux since I don't know the basics?12:40
thoreauputicXRoader: which will just confuse the issue if you use Ubuntu12:40
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topyliXRoader: no! jump right in :)12:40
ompaulthoreauputic, well you can get dtbian gnu/linux by hunger12:40
kcburyshakerhow can i tell if firestarter is running or not?12:40
BockBilbohello12:41
XRoaderI've been referred to so many guides by the time I've read them I'll be able to code my own distro in pure binary :O12:41
ompaulthoreauputic, spelt debian :-)12:41
Seveashondje, well, sonce you like trolling, #debian isn't the worst place12:41
Seveas:)12:41
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BockBilbocan anyone tell me how to check the usage of the HD in shell?12:41
GNULinuxerkcburyshaker, firestarter is just a frontend to iptables12:41
thoreauputicompaul: I'm lagging here...12:41
hondjeif/when masahiro comes back, let him know modprove snd-intel8x0 might work12:41
SeveasBockBilbo, df -h12:41
kcburyshakeri thought it was a firewall12:41
hondjeSeveas: I demand quality, sir!12:41
ompaulthoreauputic, not that badly12:41
GNULinuxerkcburyshaker, do sudo iptables -L, and if you see some rules, you know it's running12:41
Seveaskcburyshaker, the firewall itself is part of the kernel12:41
topylikcburyshaker: it doesn't really run. it just applies iptables rules to the kernel12:41
BockBilbothanks Seveas12:41
thoreauputicompaul: back to one second now12:42
GNULinuxerkcburyshaker, the firewall is in the kernel12:42
hondjeSeveas: Like today, I sent some poor newbie (2 months or so) off to set up x font server by hand :D12:42
kcburyshakerok12:42
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Seveashondje, you big bastard...12:42
hondjeThat, sir, is art12:42
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hondjeSeveas: hey, he really wanted it to work :)12:42
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SeveasI should kick you :)12:42
hondjeI'd deserve it12:42
kong0hello everyone12:42
unrealeveryone kick hondje :)12:42
hondjeBut hey, fixing xfs in mdk 8 taught me tons!12:42
tylerddplease12:42
hondjeLike, that xfs was evil, and wrong12:43
Seveas:)12:43
tylerddhow i can configured my ra012:43
tylerdd?12:43
tylerdd/etc/network/interfaces?????12:43
ompaulhondje, xfs is and always has been 'special' in a not nice way12:43
Seveastylerdd, ra0..?12:43
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XRoaderAlright, thanks to everybody for the help, I'm going to have to log so, I'll print/read those guides ASAP12:43
tylerddyes12:43
hondjehah, I'm female :p12:43
tylerddis my wireless tarjet12:43
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hondjeompaul: yeah, and having to use it really bites :(12:43
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tylerddSeveas12:44
Seveastylerdd, ewww, that awful stuff12:44
kong0i always have a problem believing ppl who says they are female over the net....12:44
tylerdd?12:44
Seveastylerdd, try /etc/network/interfaces12:44
tylerddand here12:44
tylerdd?12:44
Seveasor simply test with ifconfig/dhclient12:44
hondjekong0: Good, I'm not :)12:44
thoreauputickong0: especially when their name is Thomm ;)12:44
Seveastylerdd, man interfaces12:44
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hondjethoreauputic: that's the easy way out ;-)12:44
podgekong0: Depends if you are trying to pick them up or not..12:44
liablekong0: awww c'mon, i'm seventeen blond girl, wanna meet. :)12:45
kong0well theres when my ambition goes out :P never feels like checking them up...12:45
ompaulpodge, everyone can picked up, you just have to have what they want12:45
hondjeMy chan keep getting real females though, it's odd12:45
hondjeyoud think the rampant misogyny would chase them away12:45
podgeompaul: Ha.. yep.. and they want Ubuntu Linux? :)12:45
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ompaulpodge, some do12:46
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thoreauputichondje: masochist females perhaps ?12:46
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hondjethoreauputic: perhaps, or ones that see through our comments and realize we're all just sad, insecure nerds12:46
Echylohey podge :D12:46
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Echylothanks again for your renaming prog, the work was done in 15 minutes :D12:46
hondjeThe way I figure, my SO can use apt-get, and that's priceless in a woman :)12:46
topyliwe need more girls!12:46
podgeompaul: An 18 y/o hot blonde wants Ubuntu? nice! :)12:47
EchyloI can disguise myself ^12:47
kong0is it better to have ubuntu in english or in your won language?12:47
hondjekong0: go with your own :)12:47
podgeEchylo: Howdy..12:47
kestasdoes anyone here have any experience with NFS?12:47
kestashttp://pastebin.com/30174212:47
Echylo:)12:47
hondjekestas: sure, what's up?12:47
kestasI cant figure out why I'm getting access denied12:47
ompaulpodge, and for you she just wants it on her hard drive12:47
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topylikong0: it depends on the quality of the translations12:47
kong0nahh im asking help every second and i get the replys on english....12:47
jnoreikoI'm off to upgrade to hoary. wish me luck!12:47
zerokillsgood luck12:47
Echylokong0, go to english, your own language will be probably funny12:48
Echyloit is in mine12:48
kong0so it should be easier to find them if they were english12:48
podgemaybe we need #ubuntu-chicks :)12:48
hondjepodge: they already have their own place in the forums ;-)12:48
kong0actually i think this is a good translation...12:48
topylikong0: i prefer english because otherwise i get weird localized interfaces, with bits of english mixed in :)12:48
kong0however apps is named orgram here.12:48
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kestashondje: http://pastebin.com/301742 has the only info which I know is applicable12:49
kong0ops sry that was wrong of me, program12:49
hondjeThat's wierd...the korean localization stuff seems top-notch12:49
hondjego figure12:49
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donutfaceI have a HP Pavilion ZV6000 laptop, and its keyboard doesnt work during ubuntu install, this does work under suse. any way i can get it working on ubuntu 4.10?12:49
Echylowhat about implenting make up in ubuntu? it would attract some girls?12:49
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topylihondje: localization quality varies a lot12:49
kong0thats true i generally have one bytton in swedish and another in english :P12:49
Echyloand integrating mirrors in it12:49
Echylo(hides for girl throwing rocks)12:50
SeveasEchylo, it's there already: KDE12:50
topylihehe12:50
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kong0is kde like windoes?12:50
EchyloSeveas, ?12:50
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topylikong0: it's not that bad12:50
Myrtti/me gets her rocks and stones12:50
thoreauputicHi Myrtti  :)12:51
kong0I've just seen a picture of it and saw the resemblance12:51
ompaulkestas, you actually have a /home tmp/ on the machine?12:51
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thoreauputicMyrtti: give 'em hell ;)12:51
kestasompaul: I have /home on freebsd, and /mnt/tmp on ubuntu12:51
topylikong0: they say kde is like windows, gnome is like mac. it's an oversimplification but there you go :)12:51
ompaulkestas,  /home /mnt/tmp/  might help but no expert12:52
Myrttiwell actually, I suggest Ubuntu to everyone, regardless of their sex12:52
Echylowell we make "lolabuntu", we make a lot of maps with make up in, we integrate a mirror on the desktop, ofcourse skype is installed12:52
kestasompaul: nope fraid not12:52
thoreauputicMyrtti: of course :)12:52
Myrttibut especially to Linux newbies, and most women are such12:52
topyliMyrtti: "linux for humans"12:52
kong0actually i'd say mac is like gnome since mac OS X is built on unix..or at least the kernel...12:52
Myrttitopyli: indeed12:52
kcburyshakerim a linux newbie   this is my 2nd day under linux12:52
kong0same here:P12:52
hyphenatedEchylo: yeah, it'd be nice if skype set up a repo, so that updates could be gotten automatically12:52
lsuactiafneranyone know how many simultaneous connections a user opens when he browses compared to having a p2p app on?12:52
hondjekestas: does the server have portmap running?12:53
hyphenatedlsuactiafner: uh.. 1 compared to 20?12:53
hyphenatedlsuactiafner: netstat --inet -np should tell all you need to know12:53
kestashondje: apparently portmap functionality has been replaced with rpcbind in FreeBSD 5.X12:53
kestasand I do have rpcbind running12:53
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hondjekestas: oh, I'm totally unhip w/ FBSD12:54
hondjeAll I know is that it's dying :-/ Can't help you today12:54
lsuactiafnerhyphenated yeh as in 1:2012:54
kestashondje: I thought freebsd was more popular than ever?12:54
progen77Hi, I'm having some troubles browsing shares on windows machines on my home network. Nautilus keeps popping up asking for a user name and password. Guest accounts are enabled on all machines but they wont take "guest" (or any other valid username for that matter) Any ideas?12:54
truenoWhere can I get shipping information? I ordered about 5 weeks ago..12:54
hondjekestas: Probably is12:54
MyrttiUbuntu kicks ass over freebsd12:54
MyrttiIMHO12:54
hondjekestas: why is it tmp/ and not /tmp or whatever?12:54
Myrtti<312:54
hyphenatedlsuactiafner: depends on many factors, such as the p2p application, the spread of whatever they are downloading and so on12:55
kestasMyrtti: well youre a woman so you need a pretty interface :)12:55
Myrttikestas: <312:55
kestashondje: Im in /mnt and theres a tmp directory in there12:55
kestas/mnt/tmp gives the same result12:55
hondjekestas: use absolute paths12:55
hondjeoh, okay12:55
hondjewell, it's a server msg anyway, not mount barfing12:55
kong0does anybody have some screenshots on gentoo?12:55
lsuactiafnerhyphenated : i need to limit outgoig TCP SYN request else i get flooded with ACKS on my 5k/s dailup12:55
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tylerddi open kismet program12:56
tylerddand then y close12:56
ompaulkestas, http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-nfs.html might be of more use12:56
hyphenatedlsuactiafner: should be do-able with iptables, but I don't know a suitable frontend for setting up rate-limits like that12:56
tylerddbut when i try to open again12:56
tylerddhe said error12:56
tylerddkismet existing12:56
tylerddwhat can i do?12:57
kestasompaul: already read it, still cant figure out why I'm getting access denied12:57
lsuactiafnerhyphenated : ive done the iptables12:57
lsuactiafnerbut right now i limit to 15 non-http and 10 http and 3 ftp12:57
hyphenatedit's more common to rate-limit ICMP it seems12:57
hondjekestas: grep nfs defaults/rc.conf12:57
topylikong0: gentoo uses the defaults pretty much, so you might as well look at kde.org or gnome.org for shots :)12:57
lsuactiafnerand i set a ingress filter on also12:57
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hondjeis nfs_server_enable set to yes?12:57
tylerdd????12:58
lsuactiafneri know iptables well, just did a pom on it and upgraded to 1.3.1 which means 1.3.4 is prolly just been released12:58
kestashondje: well defaults/rc.conf is where the default settings are, /etc/rc.conf is where user specified settings are and its set to nfs_server_enable there12:59
hondjekestas: hrm12:59
kestashondje: it shouldnt matter though once nfsd is up12:59
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hondjekestas: showmount -e show them?12:59
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ompaulI tried to subscribe to yet another list this morning and no reply as yet01:00
hondjeompaul: I think they died01:00
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ompaulit is now according to ntp afternoon :)01:00
thoreauputicompaul: bob2 tells me there are server problems01:00
ompaulthoreauputic, grand01:00
hondjebob2 knows all01:00
hondjeis he a canonical guy or something?01:00
thoreauputicompaul: I haven't had any users-list mail for 24 hours01:00
topyliwhat a weird overview of linux distros: http://www.tipmonkies.com/2005/06/16/linux-distros/01:01
kestashondje: 'command not found'01:01
ompaulthoreauputic, archives greater than disk size maybe01:01
kestashondje: on the client ubuntu01:01
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hondjekestas: I meant on the fbsd box01:01
hondjekestas: other than that, you know more than me here :)01:01
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thoreauputichondje: bob2 is working for canonical I think - at least he is close to the action01:01
hondjehe's a good hire01:02
hondjeIf I was like, running a company or something, and it did linux, I'd hire him01:02
hondjeThen people would say 'my, that hondje is a clever one, look at the brains under him'01:02
thoreauputichondje: I met hm at Ubuntu Downunder - nice guy01:02
hondjeseems it01:02
kestashondje: ah yes I needed to restart mountd01:02
kestasoops01:02
hondjekestas: yay for hondje01:02
hondjeI actually knew something BSD related01:03
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ulasshi01:03
kestas:)01:03
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ulassanyone knows if inotify exists in hoary ?01:03
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lamberthello01:04
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lamberthow I can to use "gnome bittorent" ?01:04
ompaultopyli, it is not wierd, just different, I don't agree with the take that site has on SuSE but that is me01:04
=== keikoz Bonjour
lambertah un francais??01:04
lambertsalut01:04
hondjesont francais!01:04
lambertmoi oui01:05
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HappyFoolulass: i don't know, but 'apt-cache search inotify' returns no matches01:05
topyliompaul: suse is a redhat derivative? isn't it almost as old as slack?01:05
hondjeulass: dpkg -S inotify says it's in the kernel headers pkg01:05
hondjeNo, Suse isn't that old01:05
BockBilbolambert, #ubuntu-fr01:05
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topylihmm.01:06
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hondjenovell is doing some kick ass stuff with it though01:06
thoreauputictopyli: all rpm distros trace their ancestry to Red hat01:06
SteveGrifhow do I tell XFree86 to show allow a screenmode when it doesn't show it in the screenmode list? I've just swtiched from nv to nvidia drivers and now it doesn't allow me to switch to my 1920x1440 resolution01:06
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topylithoreauputic: did suse always use rpm?01:06
lambertBockBilbo yes but they don't know because they use azureus...01:06
lambertnot gnomebittorent01:06
thoreauputictopyli: I assume so - I don't know though01:06
theD3viLSteveGrif, you must change your xorg.conf01:06
hondjethey aways did01:06
ompaultopyli, they did01:06
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hondjeRH is dad of rpm land01:06
ulasshondje, are you using the official 2.6.10 kernel ?01:07
lambertyou don't knox too?01:07
ompaultopyli, redhat package manager = rpm iirc01:07
hondjeulass: yeah, -686 one01:07
theD3viLRPM's sux !01:07
lambertyou don't know too?01:07
topylihttp://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/1998-Jan/0360.html01:07
SteveGriftheD3viL, I've tried doing that - but I don't exactly know what to do... I do have "1990x1440" in the modes section01:07
hondjehey, whatever happened to turbolinux?01:07
hondjeI found an old turbulinux cd in a box the other day01:07
asimonulass: Hoary's kernel has inotify support but it's disabled by default because there were problems with it.01:07
thoreauputichondje: now part of mandriva01:07
thoreauputicI think01:07
topyli" We translated all the slackware scripts to german and made a german slackware out of ot."01:08
hondjegood ol' slack :)01:08
topyliin 1993 :)01:08
theD3viLSteveGrif, you must have "1990x1440" in modes section under 24bits if you have 24 bits default.01:08
hondjetopyli: hey, fascinating01:08
ompaultopyli, I sit corrected :)01:08
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topylitoo long ago for anybody :)01:08
SteveGriftheD3viL, I do have that there01:09
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thoreauputictopyli: so when did they give in to the Dark Side and start RPM ;) ?01:09
SteveGrifModes           "1920x1440" "1920x1200" "1856x1392" ....01:09
masahiroI'm back01:09
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RochaHi01:09
hondjethoreauputic: at the time, rpm was better than the alternatives, and less manpower intensive than dpkg01:09
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ulassasimon, how do you enable it back or can you ?01:09
SteveGrif:(01:09
thoreauputichondje: yeah, I know - just stirring :)01:10
ulassasimon, i need to check a beagle bug..01:10
theD3viLSteveGrif, DefaultDepth2401:10
theD3viLSteveGrif, SubSection "Display"01:10
theD3viLDepth2401:10
theD3viLModes"1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"01:10
theD3viLEndSubSection01:10
SteveGriftheD3viL, yep, it's in Section Screen01:10
hondjeoh, don't let me stop you sir :)01:10
RochaHow can I create a new xorg.conf ?01:10
kcburyshakeris there any way to get a webcam to work with ubuntu?01:10
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RochaYesterday I updated some X stuff and breezy now doesn't start X server.01:10
hondjeRocha: by making it and saving it as /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:10
asimonulass: Yes, during boot via some kernel parameter, but I don't know how exactly.01:10
topylithoreauputic: they don't mention the time, but after they took jurix as the base instead of slack. suse the company was founded in 199701:10
hondjeoh01:10
thoreauputictopyli: ah OK - thanks01:11
Rochahondje: Is there any dpkg command to configure X ?01:11
hondjeRocha: yessir01:11
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Rochahondje: what is it then?01:11
hondjeRocha: I'm trying to remember01:11
topyliRocha: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:11
thoreauputicRocha: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:11
hondjeI think it's dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:11
Rochathanks01:12
topyliheh01:12
theD3viLSteveGrif, i dunno then01:12
hondjehey, I thought right01:12
Rochai'll try that01:12
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thoreauputic*smirk*01:12
topyliwhee!01:12
hondje^501:12
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thoreauputichehe01:12
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yahalomcan someone tell me how i can change beep-media-player's skins?01:13
asimonulass: You need to add "inotify" to your kernel line in /boot/grub/grub.conf (or add it with grub via it's editor function before booting). But anyway, it won't work, inotify is disabled by default bacause it doesn't work.01:13
karimis it a problem to put a hard drive upside down ?01:13
hondjekarim: not generally01:15
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yahalomkarim, no. problem to handle it too much.01:15
ompaultopyli, well I started using open source software in 94 but I can only remember turbo linux, redhat FreeBSD and something called debian I remember a big box of linux stuff from walnut creek cost about 140 dollars01:15
karimhondje, hum, generally ?01:15
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Heimdallre01:15
karimyahalom, what ?01:15
scott_Can someone help me to get my multihead working please?01:15
hondjekarim: well, I'd hate to guarantee something is never bad01:15
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topyliompaul: i started with redhat 5.0, which was pretty painful. then mandrake saved me :)01:16
yahalomkarim, if u handle it too much. play around with it too much. move it from place to place. throw it across the room, etc. basicaly being and idiot with it.01:16
hondjeompaul: you can't stay sir, ubuntu is for newbies, not 'since yggradisl was still around'ies01:16
yahalomkarim, and also dont touch the exposed parts. some hard disks are most exposed than others.01:16
topylihondje: lazy gurus may use ubuntu too =)01:17
hondjeoh, lazy is good01:17
hondjethat's what I like about ubuntu, except for firefox and evolution it's work-free01:17
scott_Can someone help me to get my multihead working please?01:17
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thor|caffeinetopyli: my first Redhat refused to startx: i rang the shop I bought the disc from and the guy asked me to run some commands then told me it was working perfectly and to get used to the CLI ;)01:17
topylihondje: laziness is the mother of innovation01:18
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hondjetopyli: and boredom01:18
yahalomkarim, y ur hard disk not working?01:18
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karimyahalom, the exposed parts ? You mean, like bollocks ?01:18
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topylithor|caffeine: my box at the time had a nasty sis graphics card, so the first thing i had to do was setting up framebuffer for X. oh joy01:18
karimyahalom, no it's working, but on my case the ide cable are too short, and I must turn the disk01:19
karimI will bought longer cable though01:19
GNULinuxerbob2, hey, what is the way to change the Xcursor theme?01:20
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GNULinuxerbob2, i mean the mouse theme01:20
HWolfHow do I set a shortcut key to launch a random app?01:20
kcburyshakeri just looked at the page hit ranking on the right side of this page   http://distrowatch.com/        glad im on the right team  :)01:21
yahalomkarim, lol01:21
hondjetrusting that is like trusting a used car dealer :)01:21
yahalomkarim, lol not like bollocks.01:21
kcburyshakerHWolf  system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts01:22
thoreauputickcburyshaker: yeah we are flavour of the month: don't know how long that will last though01:22
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yahalomkarim, for ex. western digital hd have one side exposed. there are other hard drives that are totally sealed. the ones that have ne side exposed, touching it could cause data loss. even thought i haven't seen that happen.01:22
scott_Can someone help me configure my computer so that more than one monitor will work on it please?01:22
yahalomkarim, when i repair pcs i often have the hard disk in some weird position and its fine. just in long term its better u keep it in the designated area.01:23
HappyFoolkcburyshaker (and HWolf): i don't see a way to make arbitrary shortcuts there, fwiw01:23
HWolfHappyFool, right on01:23
kcburyshakerohhhhh01:23
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HWolfAny other way?01:24
hondjeHWolf: the gconf editor01:24
kcburyshakerwell im new01:24
hondjeyou can set shortcuts, they're all in the metacity sections01:24
HWolfhondje, thanks, filing a bug now. :)01:24
topylikcburyshaker: distrowatch counts page hits, how many people look at the distro pages. no-one knows usage statistics :)01:25
HappyFoolscott: this *might* help, but it looks out of date:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors01:25
scott_Thanks, I'll check it out HappyFool01:25
hondjetopyli: I have usage stats!01:25
thoreauputictopyli: the gratis CDs aren't hurting though :)01:25
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hondjeThey're fake though01:25
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yahalomnobody here uses beep-media-player?01:26
hondjeanalysis of traffic to some website and a user poll01:26
hondjeyahalom: I do01:26
topylihondje: i can give exact usage stats of this house: 50% ubuntu, 50% windows :)01:26
thoreauputichondje: 95.34% of statistics are fake!01:26
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thoreauputicyahalom: I use beep a lot01:26
kcburyshakertopyli   true   but even if half of the hits are actual downloaders   then it still works out we are on top01:26
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hondjehehe, I like people who cite netcraft stats :)01:27
hondjeubuntu isn't the most popular distro at all01:27
theD3viLwww.distrowatch.com ;)01:27
topylithoreauputic: i'm sure ubuntu is growing!01:27
karimyahalom, ok01:27
kcburyshakerno   but it is doing good for how long it has been out01:27
theD3viLBut (k)ubuntu have too many bugs !01:28
hondjeyeah, growing like gentoo did01:28
thoreauputicactually the rise of Ubuntu has been amazing01:28
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topylii wonder how many ubuntu users are newbies and how many are old debianites01:28
kong0lmnar01:28
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hondje5 years windows free01:28
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hondjestill have debian, just not on my desktop01:29
nama_ku_itaahay01:29
thoreauputictopyli: my last Debian install went Ubuntu a few days ago01:29
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hondjethoreauputic: oh, so you drank all the kool-aid?01:29
BoD_SWATI did a e2fsck on my sys and I get a "data: 231284/36634624 files (4.6% non-contiguous), 52652647/73262416 blocks" Is that OK?01:29
topylithoreauputic: i just got tired of maintaining my unstable installations01:29
hondjeI'm way to afraid to put important stuff on ubuntu01:29
GNULinuxertopyli, there are guys who are neither newbies not debianites01:29
topyliGNULinuxer: fedora refugees :)01:30
thoreauputichondje: yep -I'm an unthinking acolyte of the Church Of Ubuntu *grin*01:30
HappyFoolhondje: really? why not?01:30
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hondjeHappyFool: not stable enough01:30
GNULinuxertopyli, yes, and guys from other distros too ... like SuSE [me] 01:30
hondjeI really value my data, a whole lot01:30
daniel^topyli: or gentoo, slackware, etc.01:30
topylihondje: have you already dared to upgrade to sarge?01:31
thoreauputictopyli: gentoo refugees as well !01:31
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daniel^refugees... hmmm, i still run gentoo and debian... and now ubuntu too :p01:31
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hondjetopyli: I'm on sarge :)01:32
hondjeupgrade wasn't too bad01:32
topylihondje: well, when they say it's stable, you better believe it :)01:32
hondjedamn right01:32
hondjeonly thing to worry about is hardware death01:32
dantheman64I'm stuck in a 640 x 480 resolution; can someone tell me how to switch to a higher one? I've tried the Screen Resolution applet to no avail: only that res is available.,01:32
hondjeUbuntu is nice, but I get regular crashes, and that doesn't make me feel comfortable01:33
dantheman64hondje, why do you get crashes?01:33
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topylihondje: ubuntu doesn't crash. there's another problem01:33
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hondjetopyli: not the OS, but applications regularly segfault01:34
hondjeLately it's evolution, it dies ~4x a day01:34
daniel^>_<01:34
bob2hondje: please do file bugs01:34
hondjeI think it's not liking getting cals from hula01:34
hondjebob2: I do, even drop in some core files01:34
karimis hoary live/install  cd bootable on the oldworlds macs ?01:34
bob2eeeexcellent.01:34
flankki have the php4 package and array_ functions don't work.. is there a seperate package i need?01:34
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masahiroanybody got remote assistance to see if i can get my sound working?01:35
bob2karim: you have an old word mac with enough ram to run the live cd?01:35
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flankkkarim, ubuntu is not designed for oldworld macs, use a distro that is.01:35
karimbob2, I just want to know if I can boot the install CD01:35
carlohello i have a big problem with ubuntu, is this the place to ask for help?01:35
thoreauputiccarlo: fire away01:36
cjnodellHello01:36
cjnodellI have aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa question01:36
topyliheh01:36
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karimflankk, I already run a debian on it01:36
arkainiumIs there an easy way to copy an image from one hard disk to another?  I want to upgrade my system to use SATA but I *really* don't want to go through the whole install/configuration process.01:36
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cjnodellI am using ubuntu 5.04, and a D-link DWL-122 wireless network card (USB) with ndiswrapper, and it works, but VERRY slowly01:36
flankkkarim, so you have gotten around the PROM settings getting it to boot?01:37
cjnodellhow can i fix it?01:37
cranhi01:37
carlowhen I installed ubuntu I made a FAT32 partition and it was mounted to /home (i didnt notice that), and therefore I couldnt create a user during installation01:37
flankkkarim, anyways, if you have debian on it, then you would be quite aware on how to boot the cd.01:37
karimflankk, I installed from a floppy drive. I know that the debian install cd for ppc aren't bootable on oldworld. I don't know for ubuntu01:37
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carloi ended up with a root account only01:38
karimflankk, no, it could only be done from floppy01:38
flankkkarim, no install cds are bootable on oldworld, try yellowdog linux or something designed for the job..01:38
topyliarkainium: do dpkg --get-selections and backup /etc. then on the new system, do dpkg --set-selections and put the old /etc there :)01:38
carloi changed the /home directory to a ext3 partition and created a default user01:38
carlothen add it to the sudoers list01:39
karimflankk, I ask if ubuntu install cd is bootable on oldworld, I don't ask advices on which distro to use. thanks01:39
arkainiumtopyli, exactly the answer I was looking for.  Thanks!01:39
flankkkarim, the answer is no, i was simply giving you a suggestion to avoid repeating myself.01:39
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ska-fanHow would I go about installing some debian unstable packages on hoary? Download the .debs and dpkg -i?01:40
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thoreauputicska-fan: not sadvisable01:40
hondjeska-fan: ubuntu doesn't have them?01:40
thoreauputic*advisable01:40
carlohere comes the problem: i deleted the root account thinking i wont need it with a user that is on the sudoers lists (with userdel) and now i cant sudo(sudo: no passwd entry for root!)01:40
cranI have two independent X servers (two KDE sessions, two users) running on the same computer. Everything works find except a problem I have with hal/dbus-1. How would I prevent certain devices to show up in a specific users KDE session? I think it could be done somehow by tweaking udev and/or hald but I'm not really sure where I should look. Does someone have an idea? Good docs?01:40
carloi have to reinstall everything? :(01:40
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cranah well, I'm running kubuntu hoary01:41
flankkkarim, besides, if you currently have debian on it, you can switch your sources to ubuntu repositories and you will have a ubuntu system that way.. i believe there is a post in the forum discussing how to do this effectively.01:41
ska-fanhondje: postgresql-801:41
ska-fanhondje: so no01:41
thoreauputiccarlo: I think you shot yourself in the foot...01:41
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carloouch01:41
zythcarlo: you might be able to boot in Linux single and edit the file01:41
hondjeska-fan: best way is to download them using apt-get source <package>, then build debs from that01:41
zythif ubuntu supports it01:41
carlozyth how can i do that?01:41
cjnodellHi... Can somebody help me?01:41
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karimflankk, yes, I did that switch on a G3 400mhz, from debian to ubuntu, but I did a clean install . I just want to do a clean install01:42
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karimflankk, I mean I did a clean install recently, so save hard drive space01:42
ska-fanhondje: I have to put debian unstable in sources.list first?01:42
zythat the boot: prompt select 'linux single root=/dev/hdx (where x is your root partition) and see if it starts singleuser01:42
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hondjeska-fan: yeah, but JUSt get those pkgs01:42
flankkkarim, use the debian floppy to boot the kernel off the ubuntu cd then..01:42
hondjeor use pinning01:42
karimflankk, the reason is I discovered that aptitude can remove uneeded dependencies, unlike apt01:43
carlozyth thank you I will try01:43
karimflankk, ok, thanks01:43
flankkkarim, you can have aptitude on debian or ubuntu..01:43
ska-fanhondje: will apt-get install postgresql-8 only install the pg packages from deb unst?01:43
arschhow can i make aptitude remove unneeded dependecies?01:43
zythcarlo, np, I hope it works.01:43
karimflankk, I didn't said the contrary. I said I want to a clean install to get space back01:44
BlaamannCan anybody answer me if any mp3 supported player or the codec comes with the downloaded cd ?01:44
carlothank you too thoreauputic for listening01:44
thoreauputicarsch: only if installed with aptitude01:44
karimflankk, and that I prefer ubuntu01:44
flankkkarim, ok, just making sure it's clear :)01:44
karimflankk, no prob :)01:44
arschoh, ok01:44
arschthx thoreauptic01:44
arschand, is anybody here, who got portage to work in ubuntu?01:44
zythkarim, No, mp3 support does not come with the downloaded CD, you have to install extra software01:44
thoreauputicBlaamann: there are a couple of ways to install mp3 support01:45
thoreauputic!restricted01:45
ubotu[restricted]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:45
thoreauputicBlaamann: see ubotu above01:45
arschor blaamann, you could just look at the ubuntu guide, evrythin is explaind there, just google for "ubuntu guide"01:45
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thoreauputicarsch: unfortunately not all the advice on ubuntuguide is accurate01:46
BlaamannI heard someone say that I should not use the ubuntuguide. org01:46
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arschwhy? its good, you dont need evrythin, but the most part is really good for starters01:46
Hajuu_Hey01:47
crancan anybody tell me if theres an ubuntu channel that's a bit more technical than this?01:47
kcburyshakeri used it   and have no probs01:47
thoreauputicBlaamann: on the whole, correct, unless you know what you are doing01:47
ompaulcran, ask and we can get real technical on you if you want :-)01:47
kcburyshakerand im a newb01:47
cranompaul: I already asked :=)01:47
thoreauputickcburyshaker: it rather depends on which bits you use01:47
ompaulcran, I did not see I will sroll back :-)01:47
Blaamannthoreauputic: Thanks, I heard there was a lot of wrong things in there.01:47
kcburyshakeri used the top part on how to get all the needed stuff installed01:47
Hajuu_Uhm... Having some mysql errors.. I just installed it through apt-get and the daemon is running... but when I try to connect to it through php, it says it cannot connect, but doesnt give me any specific information about why...01:47
Hajuu_any ideas?01:47
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kcburyshakerlike java, the media players01:48
kcburyshakerthings like that01:48
Blaamannthoreauputic: Are there a list somewhere of the packages included in the downloaded cd ?01:48
ompaulcran, what devices specifically?01:48
lsuactiafnerheh connection limiting works, using p2p and irc still works01:48
cranompaul: removable devices like usb stick, camera etc01:48
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thoreauputickcburyshaker: the problems are things like the recomended apt lists01:48
cranompaul: I want specific devices or specific usb ports to only show up on a specific kde session01:48
thoreauputicbackports, marillat etc01:48
ompaulcran, well one way to do it is to make those devices only belong to the owner of that session01:49
cranompaul: so only one user is able to pmount it01:49
kcburyshakerthor   you have a better place to get a list at?01:49
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eskaypeylo01:49
ompaulcran, consider the mount points to belong to the user01:49
cranompaul: that would mean editing udev.permissions, right?01:49
thoreauputickcburyshaker: yes, apt-setup then add multiverse and uncomment universe01:49
kcburyshakerok01:50
cranompaul: hm01:50
ompaulcran, I would treat it at file system level01:50
thoreauputickcburyshaker: and use other repos only temporarily for eg codecs01:50
ompaulcran, but that is me01:50
cranompaul: isnt the mountpoint chowned to the user by pmount?01:50
ompaulcran, let me use it for a second :-)01:50
kcburyshakerok01:50
thoreauputickcburyshaker: comment out 3rd party repos after getting codecs/libdvdcss01:50
cranompaul: so the first who clicks on it gets the device01:50
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kcburyshakerthor   is there any way you could pvt me the contents of that file01:51
cranompaul: use it?01:51
cran#01:51
kcburyshakerso i could copy and paste01:51
cranompaul: maybe I don't understand you right01:52
thoreauputickcburyshaker: it's just the default file with multiverse added on the universe lines, and the recommended uncommenting to get universe01:52
kcburyshakerok01:52
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kcburyshakergotcha01:52
thoreauputickcburyshaker: it's documented in the file01:52
kcburyshakeri just dont wanna mess something like that up01:52
thoreauputic:)01:53
ompaulcran well if you auto mount it you are correct, I was thinking more in terms of a manual mounting it as /mnt/mounted_device_one01:53
ompaulcran, and turning off automounting01:53
cranompaul: i understand01:53
ompaulcran, ugly but it is effective01:53
cranompaul: But I would really like it to automount01:53
ompaul /etc/group is your friend in my solution01:54
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cranompaul: without automounting it would be easy to do in the filesystem, yes01:54
cranompaul: hm01:54
ompaulcran, I do not have an answer foryou there01:54
cranompaul: okay, but thanks anyway01:54
ompaulcran, there is ubuntu-devel but would they consider it correct for them to answer?01:54
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marcmhh dows someone know how i can get the broadcom wireless adapter 802.11b/g working ?01:55
ompaulcran, when you get it sorted Document it for us all that would be useful :)01:55
cranompaul: of course I'll do01:55
AnHumarc: you must use ndiswrapper01:55
ompaulcran, :)01:55
cranompaul: I'm writing it up currently01:55
cranompaul: howto make a local multiuser ubuntu system01:55
marciam searching for a german ubuntu channel01:55
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AnHumarc: hallo kollege;-)01:56
topylimarc: #ubuntu-de?01:56
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NicPguys out of interest how do i check my uptime?01:56
cranompaul: perfectly suited for schools and so on01:56
AnHugeh einfach auf #ubuntu-de01:56
ompaulmarc that might be #ubuntu-de01:56
cranompaul: one computer, one installation, up to 4 or mre users :)01:56
cranompaul: the only problem thats left is with security of removable devices :)01:56
thoreauputicNicP: type uptime in a terminal :)01:57
ompaulcran, ohh no it must be higher - after all there is some company who think that 5 users is the most that should connect to one PC01:57
topylicran: have you looked at skolelinux?01:57
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marcah danke01:57
scaroohi ppl ! i cannot make my mind between netapplet and networkmanager; what would you guys advice ? wich one fits better the debian:ubuntu way ?01:57
NicPlol thanks thoreauputic01:57
marchatte gerade problememit meiner verbndung01:57
ompaulcran, debian edu - and for some random ideas there is a wiki at scoil.linux.ie01:57
marcich hatte driverloader probiert01:57
crantopyli: nope, do they have the local multiuser X stuff integrated? Especially thhe ruby kernel patch?01:57
AnHumarc: dann komm in den deutschen Channel01:57
thoreauputicNicP: funny - a *nix command that makes sense ;)01:57
AnHuda bin ich auch01:57
AnHuhier soll ma ja Englisch schreiben01:58
BlaamannCan anybody tell me what the manifest files are from the Ubuntu download page (see http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/ at bottom) ?01:58
zdrahi ! i installed ubuntu breeze-20050618. Just to report here 2 "problems". first after the basic installation, reboot, and then apt-get ask me for the install CDrom... it's a bug ? i give him the cd and then the installation continue without reading the cd. Second little problem: when for the first time I log in with gdm, it's by default the user-defined session (so nothing, gnome doesn't start) I have thus to select in gdm the gnome session and01:58
zdramake it the default for the user...01:58
topylicran: i don't really know where they're at right now. http://www.skolelinux.org/portal/01:58
crantopyli: thx01:58
thoreauputicAnHu: /j #ubuntu-de01:58
zdraquestion: is here the right place to report that ? or any mailing list ?01:58
AnHuyes01:58
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ompaulzdra, yes, you can register at launchpad.ubuntu.com and log it there01:59
finnhey, anyone know how to get good tv output on an nvidia fx 5200?  my problem is i can't seem to pass 720x568 resolution mpeg2 captured from a dvb-t card to the tele with the interlacing intact01:59
crantopyli: okay, just read they page. They're not doing the same thing. They go the thin client way, that'sw something different01:59
topyliah01:59
crantopyli: I have _NO_ client01:59
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lsuactiafnerzdra : not a bug as far as i know.01:59
cranjust four mice, four keyboards, four screens :) all in one pc02:00
znhhmz.. what's the default root password - ?.02:00
xalphasI have a problem with evolution. After a fresh install it doesn't start in hoary. I googled and search the forums. Nothing. I find that it conflicts with evolution-echange i removed it and then evolution started but it hangs like that. What you guys recommend about this situation? thx02:00
topylicran: oh, ok, i thought you were after thin clients :)02:00
thoreauputic!rootsudo02:00
ubotuit has been said that rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:00
thoreauputicznh: read the bot's URL02:00
tylerddwhat is the directory of plugin of mozilla02:00
tylerddplease02:00
tylerdd?02:01
znhthoreauputic: yes, but when doing sudo, it asks me for a password02:01
crantylerdd: have you tried "dpkg -L mozille | grep plug" ?02:01
thoreauputictylerdd: ~/.mozilla/plugins I think02:01
topylitylerdd: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins02:01
lsuactiafnerznh : press enter02:01
znhthoreauputic: oh I see..  D'oh!02:01
thoreauputicznh: your user password02:01
znhthanks :)02:01
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kcburyshakerlol    i got thrown for a loop first time i saw that too02:01
lsuactiafneroh02:01
lsuactiafnerheh02:01
ompaulcran, 24/5 years ago I used a cremencio 4 workstation computer that was four screens four keyboards (no mouse) and two huge 360k drives it had a whole 128k of ram and it was fast02:01
ska-fandeb unstable is at python 2.3 still?02:01
lsuactiafnerive never used sudo on ubuntu02:02
cranznh: everyone is confused by that the first time :)02:02
znhanyways how's the support for ndiswrapper in ubuntu?02:02
kcburyshakerthe whole terminal thing is a bit new to me02:02
cranompaul: wow02:02
tylerddthnaks02:02
znhkcburyshaker: terminal thingy is lovely02:02
kcburyshakerlol02:02
cranompaul: do you have a link to this somehow?!02:02
topyliompaul: i used to run a machine with 512k ram and it was very fast. what has happened to software?02:02
ompaulno photos of then02:02
kcburyshakeri think so too   you can do a lot on it02:02
cranompaul: btw. HP is selling machines like this again02:02
ompaultopyli, udev and nat the mother and father of all evil02:03
topyliheh02:03
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cranompaul: http://www.hp441.com02:03
ompaulcran, no I don't maybe I should write it up some time02:03
lsuactiafnertopyli : the software started to actually do things..02:04
cranompaul: google does not know anything about "cremencio" :)02:04
znhokay another question, how to configure a static ip?02:04
znheverything that the system boots02:04
topylilsuactiafner: yeah well, at the time i used to run ms-dos 3.3 and works 1.0 :)02:04
znhnot manualy with ifconfig each time -_-'02:04
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ompaulcran, long before its time02:04
cranznh: /etc/network/interfaces02:05
znhaight!02:05
thoreauputicznh: man interfaces ;) /etc/network/interfaces02:05
ompaulcran that is how computing should be done that hp link I want one now02:05
ompaul!!!02:05
ubotuompaul: I give up, what is it?02:05
znhhmm.. that is equal like i would do it in debian :P02:05
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ompaulubotu, botsnack02:05
ubotuthanks ompaul :)02:05
thoreauputicznh: exactly02:05
topylicran: smaller firms do that too: http://opensensesolutions.com/faq.html02:06
znhthoreauputic: are you a bit known with ndiswrapper?02:06
crantopyli: thx02:06
topylicran: i believe it's debian :)02:06
thoreauputiczdra: no, i'm totally unknown on the subject :)02:06
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znhoh okay :->02:06
tylerddthe directory of path mozilla?02:07
znhhope my nickname isn't anonying :/02:07
thoreauputicznh: I still use old fashioned wires ;)02:07
crantopyli: very nice!02:07
eskaypeythoreauputic: more secure way that is02:07
thoreauputicznh: lazy tab completion, sorry02:07
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crantopyli: they must be using the ruby kernel :)02:08
topyli:)02:08
zdrathoreauputic, oki i'll maybe post that on the ubuntu-devel mailing list when http://lists.ubuntulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel will be online :)02:08
crantopyli: it's really easy to do on your own02:08
zdra"connection refused" it says :)02:08
topylicran: i guess, yeah02:08
crantopyli: I wonder how they solved the hal/dbus-1 issue I'm having02:08
thoreauputiczdra: heh02:08
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tylerddthe directory of path mozilla?02:09
zdraoh it works now :)02:09
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topylicran: i wonder if they have documented the system well02:09
HappyFooltylerdd: you mean /usr/bin/mozilla ?02:09
thoreauputiczdra: sorry about the tab error ;)02:09
zdralol02:09
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tylerddsip02:10
znh:b02:10
XandriXwth02:10
XandriXit stalled at 50% in configuring apt-get02:10
tylerddlook at this02:10
tylerddPlease enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,02:10
tylerddor Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):02:10
tylerdd??02:10
HappyFooltylerdd: what are you trying to do?02:11
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znhlol this is quite funny.. I had to download 'make' manualy :P02:11
tylerddinstall02:12
HappyFoolinstall what?02:12
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tylerddmacromedia flash player02:12
crantopyli: o boy this groovix is killing me :)02:12
topylitylerdd: you can just apt-get it02:12
thoreauputicznh: no, you didn't: you would get it with ` sudo apt-get install build-essential `02:12
crantopyli: it's _EXACTLY_ what I'm doing, using the same patches and everything :)02:12
topylicran: grab yer wallets!02:12
HappyFooltylerdd: i have a /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox -- that may be what you want02:12
crantopyli: hehe02:13
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tylerddapt-get macromedia flash???02:13
znhthoreauputic: I didn't had an internet connection while installing ubuntu, so yeah.. I didn't receive it :D02:13
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thoreauputicznh: it's on the CD02:13
thoreauputic:)02:13
znh:/02:14
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tylerddokk02:14
HappyFooltylerdd: have you checked ubuntuguide.org ?02:14
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tylerddthanks02:14
znhwell then i missed the installation option :)02:14
tylerddyes02:14
tylerddhad beeb installed02:14
topylitylerdd: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree02:14
thoreauputicznh: it isn't installed by default02:14
znhanyways how to manauly calculate the ETA of a download?02:14
thoreauputicznh: but it is on the CD02:14
znhsize / speed ?02:14
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thoreauputicznh: apt-get or wget will both automatically calculate ETA02:15
znhthoreauputic: yes thats right.. But i want to do it manualy02:15
HappyFoolsize of file downloaded / download rate02:15
topyliznh: divide size by speed?02:16
XandriXare there minimum requierments for ubuntu ??02:16
topyliznh: or vice versa, i don't know02:16
topyli:)02:16
znhso like:02:16
znhsize = 5000 Kbyte02:16
znhspeed = 1024 Kbyte02:16
znhsize  / speed02:16
znhthat would be 402:16
HappyFoolindeed02:16
znh4 minutes?02:16
daniel^yes sir02:16
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topyliznh: seconds i guess02:17
Seveasznh, speed is measure in kbyte/sec, not in kbyte...02:17
Seveasand 1024 kbyte/sec is a lot :)02:17
znhSeveas: hmm.. what does that change for my calculation ?02:17
Seveasznh, it gets the units right...02:17
znhyes, I ment.. what would it be then?02:17
Seveasso you actually get a menuingful answer for time...02:17
topyliznh: the unit kbyte/sec says it all in its name :)02:18
XandriXdoes ubuntu still crap ou ta bit in xfs ?02:18
znhsize = 500002:18
znhspeed = 10202:18
znhsize / speed02:18
Seveasif you really have a 1024 kbyte/sec downstream you could download a 4096 kbyte file in 4 seconds02:18
znhSeveas: well it's 102kbyte/sec ;)02:18
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Seveasznh, 5000 WHAT, 102 WHAT..?02:19
daniel^1mb/s sounds like fun02:19
Seveasyou can't calculate without units...02:19
jnoreiko<-- now on Hoary! :)02:19
pepsiwtf are you guys talking about?02:19
znhSeveas: sheeps :>02:19
pepsiyou weirdos02:19
znhpepsi: dogs and cats02:19
Seveasznh, go get a clue about math/physics...02:19
pepsiits raining :(02:19
HappyFoolSeveas: were you ever a math/sci/eng tutor by any chance ? ;)02:19
znhSeveas: my brain doesn't support that.. known issue02:19
HappyFooljnoreiko: cool02:19
pepsiznh, thats a "feature"02:20
thoreauputicznh: put in a bug report *g802:20
znhyea a missing feuture02:20
Seveasznh, then don't try to do these things if your brain doesn't support it. You might hurt your innerear :)02:20
topyliznh: http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedtest.asp02:20
znhI'll do after this life :P02:20
XandriXdoes ubuntu still crap ou ta bit in xfs ?02:20
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znhtopyli: dude I know what internet speed i've got02:20
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topyliah02:20
Seveas5000 KB / 102 KB/s = 49 sec02:21
znhsize = 5000 kbyte02:21
znhspeed = 102 kbit/sec02:21
znhsize / speed = x sec02:21
Seveaskbit!02:21
Seveas5000 KB / 102 Kb/s = 392 sec02:21
znh* 60 = xx minutes02:22
Seveasor: little over 6 minute 3002:22
Seveas / 6002:22
znhoh damn..02:22
znhI'll write some application for that02:22
thoreauputicznh: where did you go to school ? <laugh>02:22
Seveasthoreauputic, probably nowhere :)02:22
Seveasthis is kindergarten math :)02:22
znhthoreauputic: the school aint the problem, my brain ;) i've got PDD-NOS02:23
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Seveasznh, no excuse :)02:23
topyliwhat's that?02:23
XandriXdoes ubuntu still crap ou ta bit in xfs ?02:23
SeveasA friend of mine has PDD-NOS and is a math wizzard :)02:23
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SeveasXandriX: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.02:23
znhtopyli: It's like unbalanced, some things I can very good.. somethings i just can't (what other people normaly would)02:24
topyliznh: sounds like me :)02:24
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ivanoxlet's say I didnt know how much ram I have in my computer, how can I check it?02:24
znhivanox: 'top' would help you02:25
Heimdall'failed ot initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user 'username'. (samba) what does it mean ?02:25
topyliivanox: free02:25
thoreauputicivanox: cat /proc/meminfo02:25
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ivanoxthanks alot :)02:25
znh_chirch!whois god02:25
ubotuznh_chirch: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:25
znh_chirchxD02:25
thoreauputicznh_chirch: agnostic bot ;)02:26
Seveashey, the mailing lists are back :D02:26
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topyli!whois marx02:27
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, topyli02:27
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thoreauputictopyli: and I bet he never heard of Descartes either02:28
topyliheh02:28
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Heimdallfor what reason samba would fail creating a new user account ?02:29
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lamberthi02:29
SDrcould someone name me a good ad-blocker for ubuntu [/firefox] ? [something similiar to admuncher would be nice] 02:29
ompaulthoreauputic, reni descartes was a drunken fart who was very rearly stable, john stuart mill of his own free will admitted half a pint of shandy made him very very ill, and scorates himself is sadly missed, a lovely little thinker but a bugger when hes pissed :)02:29
topyliHeimdall: no excuse for such behavior :)02:30
HappyFoolHeimdall: how are you creating the account? smdpasswd ?02:30
thoreauputicthe mailing list may be back, but it lost 24 hrs worth of mail somewhere, it seems...02:30
Heimdalltopyli : indeed... but it is a fact :)02:30
Heimdallyes02:30
Heimdallsmbpasswd - a username02:30
thoreauputicompaul: aye, and no-one expects the Spanish Inquisition !!02:31
HappyFoolsmbpasswd -a username --- no space between - and 'a'02:31
Heimdallyes02:31
Heimdallno space02:31
HappyFoolHeimdall: also, must be 'sudo'02:31
HappyFoolHeimdall: what error do you get?02:31
Heimdallyes02:31
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SDrcould someone name me a good ad-blocker for ubuntu [/firefox] ? [something similiar to admuncher would be nice] 02:32
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Heimdallfailed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user "username". Does this user exist un the UNIX password database ? Failed to modify entry for user "username"02:32
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tylerddsomeone have aireplay 2.202:32
tylerdd?02:32
Heimdall(hello HappyFool ;))02:32
thoreauputicSDr: the adblock extension for firefox?02:32
HappyFoolHeimdall: good afternoon ;)02:32
BrianHHHi, everyone.  I have a problem.  I installed gnome backgrounds, and now, for some inexplicable reason, my sound is gone.  Can someone help me?02:32
HappyFoolHeimdall: hmm02:32
HeimdallHappyFool : I keep having strange things ;)02:33
ompaulthoreauputic, be careful one of those words is almost from the funniest joke in the world02:33
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HappyFoolHeimdall: do you perhaps have 'unix password sync = yes'  in smb.conf ?02:33
thoreauputicBrianHH: the connection seems tenuous...02:34
Heimdallhum let me look02:34
BrianHHthoreauputic:  That's what I thought.  That's what makes it inexplicable.02:34
BrianHHbrb02:34
thoreauputicBrianHH: hmm02:34
HappyFoolHeimdall: i don't think that it's set to 'yes' by default02:34
HappyFoolHeimdall: have you tweaked smb.conf at all?02:34
Heimdallwhich one ? in etc/ or usr/share ?02:35
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HeimdallHappyFool : no never02:35
HappyFoolHeimdall: in /etc/samba02:35
Heimdallok, because I have also in /usr/share/sambasmb.conf02:35
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sHaDeirc.darksin.net02:35
sHaDeazz02:35
Heimdallsorry /usr/share/samba/smb.conf02:35
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HappyFoolHeimdall: hmm. i think that that file is just a sample02:36
hulkis it possible to start a program an another workspace?02:36
HeimdallHappyFool : that's a no02:36
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kbrooksping02:36
HappyFoolHeimdall: err, what's a no?02:36
thoreauputicpong02:36
topylihulk: in gnome, no02:37
Heimdallwell unix paxxord syn=no02:37
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Heimdalldamn, password02:37
kbrookskickstart is........02:37
hulkthx02:37
HappyFoolHeimdall: ok02:37
Heimdallrhooo02:37
kbrooksocool?02:37
Heimdallwell unix password sync=no02:37
ompaulthoreauputic, is the list starting to rev up again?02:37
Heimdalllol sorry :/02:37
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XandriXis it possible to get a vnc in ubuntu by apt-get ??02:37
thoreauputicompaul: looks like it - i have a small penguin trying to escape gkrellm here...02:38
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ompaulthoreauputic, hmmmm02:38
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kbrooksweirwd02:38
kbrookshonestly.02:38
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thoreauputicompaul: he does that when I have mail...02:38
kbrookskickstart is better02:38
ompaulthoreauputic, yeah but in a flood02:38
HeimdallHappyFool : http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/lofiversion/index.php/t10725.html02:39
HappyFoolHeimdall: could you put /etc/samba/smb.conf up on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl ?02:39
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ompaulthoreauputic, pm ok ?02:39
thoreauputicompaul: 17 messages so far02:39
cb_hello all...Anyone knows whether installation of Ubuntu will nicely erase SuSE and leave Win2K intact? I am dual booting now. Thanx.02:39
ompaulooch02:39
thoreauputicompaul: yeah02:39
BrianHHthoreauputic:  I fixed the problem.  For some reason, when it installed the backgrounds, it uninstalled gdm.  I reinstalled gdm and all is well now.02:39
ompaulcb_, it should02:39
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HappyFoolHeimdall: aargh. i did a test of smbpasswd, but the user i added exists on my system02:39
thoreauputicBrianHH: aha - very odd02:40
ompaulcb_, as long as you do it right :)02:40
nameless\id02:40
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HappyFoolHeimdall: i'm sure there must be a way to add an smb user without having a local user account02:40
BrianHHcb_:  I nicely installed Ubuntu over Fedora, so I assume it will work the same with Suse.02:40
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HeimdallHappyFool : I believe you02:40
cb_BrianHH: U were also dul booting right?02:40
namelessHello ppl!02:40
cb_dul=dual02:40
BrianHHcb_:  Yes.  I had XP on one partition, and Fedora on the other.02:41
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HeimdallHappyFool : http://nico.aunai.free.fr/tmp/SMB.CON02:42
cb_Ok. Thanx. I'd then like to set up an ogg stream server. how hard can this be?02:42
BrianHHcb_:  As long as you install Ubuntu *after* you have Windows on the system, you should be fine.  If you try to install Windows over Linux, it kils the boot loader.02:42
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jnoreikoHappyFool, upgrading from the mounted ISO worked, btw. :)02:42
BrianHHcb_:  I've never done that.02:42
XandriXhow do you list packages installable in ubuntu again its dkpg something02:42
cb_ok02:42
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tylerddsomeone had proved aireplay 2.202:43
tylerdd?02:43
BrianHHcb_:  You can set up your machine as an FTP server and access your ogg files remotely that way.02:43
Danarwhy doesn't ubuntu have xine?02:43
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XandriXdanar it can have it02:44
HappyFooljnoreiko: good to here02:44
HappyFoolHeimdall: hrm. a quick browse of smb.conf doesn't reveal how to have 'smb only' users02:44
Danarroot@ubuntu:/mnt/hdb4 # apt-get install xine02:44
DanarReading package lists... Done02:44
DanarBuilding dependency tree... Done02:44
DanarE: Couldn't find package xine02:44
HappyFoolHeimdall: easy option is to add the user to your system before running smbpasswd02:44
Danarnor gxine either02:45
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cb_BrianHH: I wanted to see how I could help a small radio station have internet presence. FTP would not work here.02:45
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XandriXdanar did u update you rpackage list02:45
topyliDanar: it's libxine and xine-ui02:45
HappyFoolHeimdall: add a user either with adduser (command line) or System -> Administration -> Users and Groups02:45
DanarE: Package xine-ui has no installation candidate02:45
HeimdallHappyFool : but it is not said that I have to add user to my system before02:46
topyliDanar: you don't have the universe repository in sources.list02:46
kestaswhen youve got a user with a user id of 1000, and you want to share files via NFS with a user account which has a user id of 1001, what do you do?02:46
LeeonAnyone here had a problem with mysql connections in php 4?02:46
BrianHHcb_:  I don't know.  Maybe you could see if there's a Real Producer for Linux.  Other than that, I'm not familiar with such software.02:46
masahirohow come alsaconf won't work?02:46
HappyFoolHeimdall: it's news to me too02:46
cb_ok02:46
resiakcb_: Search for Icecast02:46
HeimdallHappyFool : on the ubuntu website it is not said too02:46
BrianHHFor some reason, my cd drive won't play CDs in Ubuntu.02:46
HappyFoolHeimdall: however, if you read 'man smbpasswd', you'll find this: 'the default passdb backends require the user to already exist in the system password file (usually /etc/passwd)'02:47
HappyFoolHeimdall: possibly the wiki page is incorrect02:47
HappyFoolHeimdall: what's the URL ?02:47
Heimdallerr :/02:47
Heimdalloh it is in french ;)02:47
HappyFoolheh02:47
Leeon"Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in..." I do have php4-mysql installed (I am using php 4.3.10)... It worked last night. I haven't done a thing (update or so)...02:47
HappyFoolok, i won't try to update it then02:47
masahiro*the command alsaconf dosen't work!!!*02:47
HappyFoolHeimdall: add a comment to the bottom regarding this, if you like02:47
HeimdallHappyFool : http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/applications/samba it has to be some equivalent in english, removing the '-fr' and putting '.com' instead of '.org'02:48
topylimasahiro: there's no such command02:48
HappyFoolHeimdall: you will need an ubuntulinux.org account; shouldn't take long to create one02:48
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masahiroalsaconf?02:48
HeimdallHappyFool: oh, cool :)02:48
topylimasahiro: yes02:48
BrianHHOkay, now this isn't good.  My CD ROM drive is stuck closed, and it's telling me it's not mounted.02:49
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topylimasahiro: perhaps alsactl?02:49
HappyFoolHeimdall: oh, i don't know ubuntu-fr.org -- the english one is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba (i think)02:49
topylimasahiro: or amixer?02:49
Heimdallhehe02:49
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hussamhey guys02:50
HeimdallHappyFool : you see... now I'm trying to configure the network :)02:50
HappyFoolHeimdall: good stuff02:50
liableno alsaconf in ubuntu?02:50
Danarstill no xine02:50
HeimdallHappyFool : it is much easier02:50
dantheman64I'm stuck in a 640 x 480 resolution! Anyone know how to get higher?02:50
HappyFoolHeimdall: just to check -- you never got your modem working?02:50
HeimdallHappyFool : it already works02:50
HeimdallHappyFool : no... :)02:50
HappyFoolHeimdall: ok02:50
dantheman64 I'm stuck in a 640 x 480 resolution! Anyone know how to get higher?02:51
HappyFoolHeimdall: you have connected your laptop and other computer ?02:51
HeimdallHappyFool : don't care... my other one will be here soon ;)02:51
kcburyshakerim trying to figure out why these people have so many probs   ubuntu installed perfectly for me and everything works02:51
HeimdallHappyFool : yes, but the other is under winXP02:51
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hussamhow do I schedule a cron job for a task to run as root every 60 minutes? I also don't want it to not log anything.02:51
HappyFoolkcburyshaker: unsupported hardware, typically02:51
BrianHHdantheman64:  Menu -> Prefernces => Screen Resolution02:51
kcburyshakerahhhh02:51
Danarnvm, got it02:51
liableresiak: you still here?02:51
HappyFoolhussam: 'man crontab'02:51
resiakliable: Vaguely.02:51
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HeimdallHappyFool : this is the one with which I can be here :)02:52
liableresiak:htf do you run alsaconf for ubuntu?02:52
topylimasahiro: what are you trying to do exactly? there's no sound or what?02:52
HappyFoolHeimdall: cool. you *should* be able to enable 'internet sharing' or something under win xp, to get your laptop online02:52
BrianHHkcburyshaker:  Sometimes different configurations have hardware issues.02:52
HappyFoolHeimdall: but i'm not sure how that works02:52
masahiroyup no sound02:52
masahiroand cant fix at all02:52
topyliwhich card is it?02:52
resiakliable: You don't. You "don't need it. Discover always works". :)02:52
lcoremetacity->config editor->global_keybindings: Howto bind a command to Win/Tux key?02:52
masahiroi dont know02:52
Leeonwhy isn't there any php5 -packages avalible?02:53
HeimdallHappyFool : apparently the netwok work, but I have to create a samba account to access to my laptop from XP02:53
HappyFoolHeimdall: yeah02:53
masahiroLiable gave me some commands but i didnt understand the stuff it came up with02:53
bob2Leeon: there, are just not in ubuntu02:53
liableresiak: ok, there isnt a 'alsaconf'?02:53
masahiroim pretty sure its realtek though02:53
HappyFoolHeimdall: can't you use your 'normal' account -- 'heimdall', or whatever it might be?02:53
HeimdallHappyFool : I never been able to do it with two win, so imagine to share my connection with my ubuntu :-D02:53
topylimasahiro: try lspci | grep audio02:53
kbrooksLeeon, because none at debian has arsed to generate some? google php 5 debian02:53
Danaruh, i installed xine, and it says it doesn't support MPEG 2/3. wtf?02:53
HeimdallHappyFool : hum... it does not look very secure02:53
masahiroand it just prompts : root@computer:/home/ashley #02:54
topyliDanar: no codecs02:54
bob2lists are back02:54
resiakliable: Nope. It's dumb.02:54
Leeonokey :)02:54
Danartopyli, yeah... apparently. so.. ?02:54
HappyFoolHeimdall: then create another user on your laptop, and use smbpasswd on that account02:54
HappyFoolHeimdall: you can always disable logins for the extra account02:54
kcburyshakeris there any way to get evolution to sit in the "system tray" so it is always "on"02:54
thoreauputicbob2: yah, the avalanche has resumed...02:54
HeimdallHappyFool : it is done :)02:54
liableresiak: trying to help masahiro but I have come up against a brick wall. Loaded what *I* think is the right module, but no alsaconf.02:54
HeimdallHappyFool : it is working well :)02:55
HappyFoolHeimdall: good stuff02:55
topyli!codecs02:55
ubotumethinks codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:55
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resiakliable: Add to /etc/modules, reboot?02:55
topyliDanar: ^02:55
thoreauputicliable: no alsaconf in Ubuntu02:55
masahiroBRB02:55
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HeimdallHappyFool : yeaaah :) in fact I'm configuring network because my next modem will be plugged on my RJ45 port02:56
XandriXstupid old box with low meme taking hours to do the final steps02:56
XandriX...02:56
resiakthoreauputic: We've just been through that02:56
liablethoreauputic: how does it get configured. During boot?02:56
spityhi02:56
liableshit,02:56
spityanyone using Hoary? Just wanted to ask whether you have problems with XKB with recent xorg02:56
liablemasahiro: you listening, you need to add that module to /etc/modules and reboot02:57
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liablemasahiro: *if* its the right one!02:57
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liableI thought ubuntu picked hardware up well?02:57
resiakliable: Not always, it seems. I've almost stopped recommending it over Sarge to newbies02:58
ompaulliable, it is liable to pick up hardware well, I have it on three boxes I support02:58
HeimdallHappyFool : do you know how toa ccess to the network in the cmmand line way ?02:58
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ompaulliable, what h/ware is it not picking up?02:59
Danarthx, think i got it02:59
liablehmm, funny thing is, he had a sony_acpi module loaded on a hp desktop?02:59
liabledoesnt sound good02:59
ompaulooch02:59
liableompaul: sound02:59
ompaulliable, how many sound cards are on it?03:00
liable103:00
liableone sec03:00
liable0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)03:01
HappyFoolHeimdall: you mean accessing shares ?03:01
kestascan you change a users user id?03:01
ompaulso it found it03:01
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splatboyhi03:01
Heimdallyes03:01
splatboywhere could i find my grub-config ?03:01
kestasHeimdall: how?03:01
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HappyFoolHeimdall: smbclient on linux03:01
Heimdalllike in shortcuts03:01
thoreauputicsplatboy: /boot/grub/menu.lst03:01
splatboythx03:01
splatboykiss03:01
splatboy:)03:01
rc51woodymorning room03:01
liablefrom what I seen should be a azt module (or whatever it is )03:01
HappyFoolHeimdall: like this: smbclient //windowsmachine/sharename -U username03:01
HappyFoolHeimdall: for nautilus and firefox you can use smb://windowsmachinename/sharename03:02
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HappyFoolHeimdall: not sure if i've answered your question03:02
Heimdallnot sure too :-D03:03
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rc51woodyhey in my synaptic, it says it could not download all repository indexes... what should i do03:03
m-onkeyHigh|ander, I've got a problem with mounting my floppy03:03
m-onkeys/High|ander/hi03:04
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thoreauputicrc51woody: check your /etc/apt/sources.list03:04
m-onkeymount /dev/fd0 /flopyy doesnt work but mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /flopyy works03:04
bob2liable: I'm not sure what it's supposed to do on any os03:04
m-onkeysomebody here who knows the problem?03:05
ompaulliable,  I had a different issue with sound but this may help03:05
liablehmmm, well, if it detects a just loaded soundcard in debian, how does it get detected in ubuntu?03:05
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HeimdallHappyFool : ok I have put my ubuntu in english it will be easier to comunicate..., well I wanna do in console mode what I can do from "places->network servers"03:06
HappyFoolHeimdall: smbclient is a useful tool for this03:06
rc51woodythoreaupatic: im in that directory, what do i do now?03:06
HappyFoolHeimdall: try also 'smbtree'03:06
HappyFoolHeimdall: e.g., to list shares on a computer, try 'smbclient -L windowsmachine'03:06
ompaulcan I message you the /etc/esound/esd.conf03:06
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liableompaul: me?03:06
ompaulliable, yes03:06
thoreauputicrc51woody: less sources.list and check it for errors?03:06
liableompaul: ok, not me having the problem though.03:06
ompaulahh03:07
HeimdallHappyFool : smbtree do that too :)03:07
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bob2liable: it doesn't do that on debian, either03:07
ompaulliable, who is03:07
bob2liable: hotplug or discover loads the module for it03:07
HappyFoolHeimdall: to be honest i've never used smbtree03:07
HappyFoolok, i'm off03:07
liableompaul: masahiro03:07
Heimdall:)03:07
kimonasyes03:07
liablebob2: yes, but its not being loded, and appears to be suppoted.03:07
liablesupported03:07
liableloaded too03:08
rc51woodyonly thing thats different from the original is the there are no #'s in front of the last 3 lines03:08
thoreauputicrc51woody: or paste it in #flood and someone might see a problem, if there is one03:08
liablesheesh03:08
splatboygo another question : i'm used to use lilo bootloader : do i need to run a command like : grub or so : to write it to my mbr ?03:08
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splatboyor is just saving config file enough ?03:08
bob2liable: if hotplug doesn't load the module, it's very unlikely modprobe will work, either03:08
ompaulthis may be of use:: [esd] , auto_spawn=1, spawn_wait_ms=100, default_options = -terminate -nobeeps -as 2    the commas indicate different lines03:08
m-onkeygrub-install03:09
jnoreikoslight hitch... upgrading to hoary hasn't updated my repositories. is it just http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ with hoary instead of warty for the distro name?03:09
thoreauputicsplatboy: you don't need to run grub, no03:09
ralphHi, I'm trying to use bugzilla.ubuntu.com and finding it *very* slow;  is this a known problem or just me?03:09
liablebob2: modprobe didnt complain though03:09
splatboywhat do i need to do ?03:09
splatboyjust save the config-file ?03:09
bob2ralph: are you on dialup?03:09
thoreauputicsplatboy: oh sorry I misread you03:09
splatboy?03:09
ralphbob2: Yes, although it's just like pre-Ubuntu speed-wise for Google, BBC News, etc.03:09
bob2ralph: yeah, bugzilla will suck03:10
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ralphbob2: I've got around the ttyS0 being 9600 baud by default if that's what you're thinking of.03:10
ompaullaunchpad is much nicer for bugs03:10
bob2launchpad is still quite incomplete, tho03:10
liablemaybe I should just shut up about hardware I dont have, on a system I dont have. :)03:10
heiko_hi ...03:10
bob2but they're doing excellent work on it03:11
heiko_I've got some problems with video playback on 5.0403:11
ompaulbob2, ohh no, will it be as clunky as bugzilla? ;-)03:11
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ompaulit is sweet03:11
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heiko_xmms does play sound, but vlc doesn't. here's the error ...03:11
bob2ompaul: not while I'm still around to bitch ;p03:11
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ompaulbob2, hehehe03:11
Addiuswell that could have gone better, I'll try writing my problem again ~_~03:11
masahiroim back03:11
heiko_[00000276]  oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)03:12
heiko_/dev/dsp does exist. any idea what's wrong here?03:12
topyliheiko_: maybe xmms knows you're using esd but vlc doesn't03:12
heiko_(am I?)03:12
topyliheiko_: try killing esd and try vlc after that03:13
heiko_okay03:13
AddiusI'm getting 'operation not permitted' when doing a 'modprobe ndiswrapper', anyone who could hint me in the right direction?03:13
bob2Addius: so, you enabled the root account?03:13
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liablemasahiro: good luck, outa ideas. :(03:13
heiko_topyli, it works now. thanks03:14
masahirowhat was that about modules?03:14
Addiusbob2: nopes, I've tried but I haven't figured out how to do that in ubuntu yet, heh..03:14
topyliheiko_: yeah, but now esd doesn't work :)03:14
bob2Addius: odd03:14
heiko_topyli, but how can i fix that permanently?03:14
topyliheiko_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=888203:15
Saketzumy ISA sound card SB AWE64 Gold doesn't work, does anyone have ideas for that? (i'm using Hoary, Linux 2.6.10-5-386)03:15
bob2that will be painful03:15
bob2you don't have any pci sound cards?03:15
Saketzuwell, ac97 on the motherboard03:15
masahiroliable masahiro: you listening, you need to add that module to /etc/modules and reboot03:15
masahirowhat was that about? cos i am here now03:16
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Saketzubut AWE64 Gold has *great* sound quality... guess i'll have to use ac97, if it doesn't work in hoary03:16
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liablemasahiro: the snd-azt3328 module, try it, I have no better advice. Sorry.03:17
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bob2Saketzu: it works fine03:17
bob2it's just not automatic03:17
masahirohow do i put it on? or do i just google for it?03:18
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Saketzubob2: how can i set it up? I can't see isapnptools...03:18
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masahiroliable masahiro: the snd-azt3328 module, try it, I have no better advice. Sorry. - Anybody know how to do that?03:19
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bob2Saketzu: its there03:19
Danarstill can't play media03:20
Danarmplayer does nothing, and xine plays video, but not audio03:20
Saketzubob2: should i use oss?03:21
bob2Saketzu: I don't know03:21
NicPdanar what u trying to play03:21
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Danara video file03:21
NicPcan you be more specific03:21
Danarfirst time i tried to play it in xine, it said it couldn't play mpeg 2/303:22
Danargot codecs, and now it plays without that, but there's no sound03:22
NicPhave u installed the win32 codecs03:22
Danaryeah03:22
NicPhave u tried in totem?03:22
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NicPis there sound in other apps?03:22
Danarthere's sound when i click to run programs03:23
NicPok03:23
Danarmakes that *bop* sound03:23
NicPso did u try in totem?03:23
Danarer, no03:23
NicPwell go for it then03:23
Danardoing so03:23
Danarno decoders found03:24
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HeimdallI'd like to make a little command that mount the floppy and open a nautilus window, but it does not work, wy ? because one has to be root ?03:24
NicPwierd03:25
NicPworks fine for me with all my video files03:25
NicPprehaps check the forums03:25
Danartotem won't play anything03:25
NicPreally?03:25
Danaralways says 'no decoders found'03:25
Heimdallwell it works but only when I type it in a term03:26
Addiusbob2: erhm, I got the root-account working, but while using that I still get the 'operation not permitted' and 'Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/.../ndiswrapper.ko)' when doing the modprobe..03:26
bob2Addius: sure, that won't help03:26
bob2I was just asking if you had03:26
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NicPyou followed the instructions on ubuntuguide.org when u installed the codecs?03:26
Danarer, from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats03:27
Addiusbob2: heh, okay. But you wouldn't happen to know where to head from here?03:27
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Danargot the repositories, and installed from synaptic03:27
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bob2Addius: what does 'uname -r' print?03:27
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Danar -r, --kernel-release03:27
Danar              print the kernel release03:27
Addiusbob2: 2.6.10-5-38603:27
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NicPhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs03:28
Danarheh, oops.03:28
NicPtry that03:28
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NicPotherwise i'm outta ideas03:29
NicP:P03:29
bionicuhm no grub.conf in ubuntu 5.04?03:29
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yahalomanyone here using netgear products?03:29
jnoreikois there a way to remove a package, and also its dependencies?03:29
jnoreikoI've just installed something I realize I don't need, and it fetched loads of other packages03:30
yahalomjnoreiko, tried removing it?03:30
yahalomjnoreiko, it might remove the dependencies03:30
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jnoreikono, it's only marked itself (in synaptic)03:31
mjr ,3003:31
mjrwhops03:31
jnoreikofailing that, is there a log file of what I've installed?03:31
DanarNicP, strange. now totem plays the audio, but not the video03:33
Mezso whats the easiest way to instlal javba?03:33
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olajuwonyo! wazzup??03:34
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Heimdallwhere can I find LeTeX2e package for ubuntu ?03:34
Heimdallwhere can I find LaTeX2e package for ubuntu ?03:34
MezHeimdall, no need to spam03:35
HeimdallMez sorry03:35
Danararg, mplayer isn't responding, and won't close03:35
Saketzukillall -6 mplayer03:35
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Danarthat did nothing03:36
Saketzukillall -9 mplayer03:36
Danarmplayer: no process killed03:36
Heimdallso, nobody uses latex here ? :/03:37
liabletry gmplayer03:37
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Danarthat did it03:37
Danarthx03:37
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Danarwell, xine plays it fine now03:38
NicPHeimdall, just learning latex03:38
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NicPDanar, good to hear :)03:38
HeimdallNicP : where did you dowload the base package ?03:39
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Addiusmeh, I'm still getting operation not permitted when trying to run 'modprobe ndiswrapper'.. would it make any sense if root didn't have access to /lib/modules/?03:39
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NicPHeimdall, just been playing around with the frontends03:40
liableAddius: root has access to everything03:40
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NicPsearching stuff in synaptic03:40
Heimdalloh..03:41
Danarok, thx ppl03:41
Addiusliable: That's what I thought too.. In other words there's something else wrong and I'm just bad at interprating the Error-message03:41
Heimdallthis is very odd, there is not package latex on packages.ubuntu.com03:41
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liableAddius: wheres the drivers stored for ndiswrapper?03:42
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Addiusliable: you mean the one I'm trying to get working? I don't know actually, any way to check?03:42
lsuactiafnerHeimdall : ubuntu developers are allergic to latex03:42
lsuactiafnertry 'plastic'03:42
jfilhi, do u know how to regenerate/rebuild /var/lib/dpkg/info if been removed?03:43
jfilone option is reinstall all the packages03:43
jfilother one?03:43
liableAddius: erm, no, I dont know, didnt you copy the driver to somewhere?03:43
ompaulHeimdall, do this 'apt-cache search latex' one or two results for you03:43
Addiusliable: you mean the windows-driver?03:43
Heimdalllsuactiafner : ok, but they should be openned03:43
Heimdallompaul : berk03:44
thoreauputic!java03:44
ubotusomebody said java was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java03:44
liableAddius: yes03:44
ompaulHeimdall, hu?03:44
Addiusliable: ah, I just put it in /lib/, didn't know of any better place to put it03:44
Heimdallompaul : well this has nothing to do with latex :/03:45
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liableAddius: did you follow some sort of howto?03:45
Addiusliable: yeah, "HowToSetUpNdiswrapper" from the ubuntu-wiki03:46
shervhello people, I encountered a problem installing Ubuntu on my laptop(Asus SN5), can anyone give me assistance?03:46
jnoreikodoes synaptic keep a log of what it's installed?03:46
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anto9usjnoreiko: click status and installed03:47
liableAddius: well, if its in the right spot, go over it all again, and double check.03:47
jnoreiko... I meant a log that shows what was most recently added03:47
XandriXstupid low mem machine03:48
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HumpBackany one out there has some pictures of the ubuntu cd pack?03:48
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shervI'm using a 'intel 915GM' graphic. The installation went fine, but when I boot the system, I only get a black screen when it tries to load X. Does ANYONE have a clue?03:49
Heimdallso there are 500 persons here... and nobidy uses latex :-D03:49
shervI use tex, maybe i can help03:49
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HumpBacksherv: i use lyx03:50
anto9usjnoreiko: hmmm... looks like a installed date column would be handy in there03:50
Heimdallsherv : maybe... I'm looking for a website or ftp where I could download the package altex for ubuntu ?03:50
HumpBackuppps03:50
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HumpBackHeimdall: I use lyx03:50
Heimdallwhat is lyx ?03:50
Addiusliable: no, I'm still getting the same error =/03:50
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HumpBacksherv: I have a i830, it is similar, same kernel module and driver03:50
shervheimdall:ooh, sorry man do know03:51
HumpBackHeimdall: a nice wysiwyg editor that generates tex03:51
Addiusliable: now ndiswrapper is claiming that the driver is invalid though, so I'm guessing this is pretty much as far as I can go if it doesn't work with the windows-driver03:51
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HeimdallHumpBack oh ok, but I prefer type my own code with emacs :)03:51
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shervHumbBack: are you referring to my problem with 915GM?03:51
HeimdallHumpBack : but I need latex to compile03:52
ompaulHeimdall, I did not go out of my way to install extra packages, however be aware that latex -v results in the following e-TeX (Web2C 7.4.5) 3.14159-2.1 and the query I gave you to use on the apt database has 189 lines of potentially useful information this is ubuntu hoary03:53
shervHeimdall: if you only need a tex compiler, why don't you use 'dselect'?03:53
Addiusliable: anyways, thanks for the help03:53
HumpBacksherv: if you want i can send you my xorg conf, it will probably work with some tweaking for you03:54
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shervHumbpack: please do03:54
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liableAddius: got the right file? for the driver, theres two, and one doesnt work03:56
Heimdallsherv : I only know latex, come from windows03:56
JloRI'm having some serious problems with my new (2 weeks old.. approx.) ubuntu install. My desktop icons are gone - and i can't start Nautilus anymore, nor can i right-click on my desktop to gain that menu where I could choose to start shells etc. Does anyone know how to fix this? Or what might be causing it?03:57
Addiusliable: the right file? I'm supposed to use the windowsdriver from the manufacturor ain't I?03:57
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liableAddius: yes but there is two files generally I think. I havent actualyy used ndiwrapper, but read there is generally two files.03:58
shervsorry, Humpback, please try again,03:58
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rc51woodyonce i install java03:58
rc51woodyhow do i ensure firefox knows i have it?03:58
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Addiusliable: okay, no I was supplied with only one .inf file03:59
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shervHeimdall: tex is a more general term for latex. do you know how to install packages on linux?03:59
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liableAddius: ok, if my memory serves me right, thats the right one.04:00
androidI have a problem with LimeWire.. It says: Unable to access jarfile LimeWire.jar04:00
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HumpBacksherv: latex is a set of macros for tex04:00
ompaulJloR, before you try to start the next session do this click on session and choose gnome over default, if that does not fix it then you may need to take some other action, have you added some software or removed some that you know of?04:00
Addiusliable: is there any chance that perhaps an older driver might work better?04:01
shophi dark its shopgirl04:01
JloRompaul, I haven't removed any - but I have added a few things (games / programs / java / drivers / etc. -- and upgraded what was on it of course)04:01
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Seveassherv, tex isn't a more general term for latex04:01
Heimdallsherv : apt-get ?04:01
Seveaslatex is a set of macros for tex04:02
shervHeimdall: sure, anything you like, I use dselect04:02
HeimdallSeveas : yes itis different04:02
ompaulJloR, okay well try what I suggested first if that fails I would try 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' in a terminal04:02
Seveassherv, dselect is deprecated :)04:02
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shervSeveas, ohh ok04:02
liableAddius: sorry dude, absolutely no idea.04:02
Seveasbetter use aptitude if you want a curese based application04:02
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HeimdallSeveas : but, how can it be possible that ubuntu does not propose latex packages ?04:02
neighborleeis the concensus that reiserfs is safe ..I  aSsume it is or it would not be available in install ? ;-))04:03
JloRthanks ompaul - but last time I tried to logout it didn't work. I had to ctrl-alt-del my way to the login screen. Will try what you suggested. Be back later.04:03
SeveasHeimdall, it does :)04:03
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amrdoes anyone here know how to install mod_python for apache2? i've tried with absolutely no success04:03
ompaulHeimdall, have you typed 'laytex' at a command line yet? because from what I have seen it just works04:03
amris there an apt package i can just install?04:03
Addiusliable: aff, then I'll have to go back to getting the 'native' driver working. Thanks for the help though!04:03
HeimdallSeveas : well not in the cd, nor in the packages.ubuntu.com04:03
SeveasHeimdall, tetex-{base,bin,doc,extra}04:03
coriolan_hello all, i have a little question: i have two computers and I want to use one with firewire from the other. i managed to ping the other computer with eth1394 but then what am i supposed to do?04:03
SeveasUbuntu provides the tetex distribution of latex04:04
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HeimdallSeveas ? tetex ? latex ? I havenothing04:04
ompaulxemacs21 <-- for the good gnus04:04
SeveasHeimdall, it's in base, are you sure you have installing from the network enabled?04:05
Seveasit's in main*04:05
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JloRdidn't help the least.. :/04:05
HeimdallSeveas ; sorry, I don't understand04:05
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ompaulJloR, next up apt-get install ubuntu-desktop04:05
JloRyea, thanks.04:05
SeveasHeimdall, type: apt-cache show tetex-base04:05
amrdoes anyone here know how to install mod_python for apache2? i've tried with absolutely no success04:06
amris there an apt package i can just install?04:06
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Seveasif that shows nothing, you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list04:06
Seveasamr, libapache2-mod-python04:06
HeimdallSeveas : no packages found04:06
amrSeveas, thank you very much :)04:06
JloRhmm, ompaul it just told me that it already is newest version and that it didn't upgrade anything..04:06
SeveasHeimdall: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:06
Seveasfollow that guide04:06
ompaulJloR, okay then it has not been uninstalled :-)04:06
SeveasHeimdall: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3804:06
JloR:-) no04:07
Seveasand add these sources04:07
ompaulJloR, ohh hang on a sec04:07
JloRsure04:07
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ompaulJloR, something funny in the back of my mind - do this - ls -al ~gkxjmrep/.I*04:08
amrSeveas, that didn't work04:08
ompaulJloR, who owns that file?04:08
amrApache/2.0.53 (Ubuntu) mod_python/3.1.3 Python/2.4.1 PHP/4.3.10-10ubuntu4 Server at localhost Port 8004:08
amris that any use to you?04:08
amr:o different versions of python04:08
Seveasamr, it says you have mod_python installed there...04:09
ompaulJloR, it should be your local user04:09
JloRno such file or directory..04:09
HeimdallSeveas : my linux isn't connected to the web04:09
amrso the .py file should just work, yea?04:09
ompaulJloR, okay04:09
Seveasmod_py 3.1.3 using py 2.4.104:09
amrSeveas, is that ok?04:09
amror do i need to do that AddType in the config04:10
Seveasamr, yes. But you do know that programming with mod_python is completely different from programming with python as cgi, i hope..04:10
SeveasHeimdall, then download the tetex packages from packages.ubuntu.com on another machine04:10
Seveasand transfer them via cd or usb stick04:10
amrSeveas, yeah I do, but it just asks me if i want to download the file04:10
Seveasamr, you should use an AddHandler etc..04:11
Heimdallyeah but is tetex the same thing that 'latex' ?04:11
Seveasread the mod_python docs...04:11
SeveasHeimdall, tetex is a distribution for latex04:11
Seveasso basically: yes04:11
amrSeveas, oki, thanks :)04:11
Heimdallokay04:11
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maybehi, i've deleted /var/lib/dpkg/info!!! how can i rebuild it?? please help me this is very important for me04:12
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HumpBackmaybe: why on earth did you do that?04:13
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XandriXi orderd them in april ...04:13
neighborleeany reason why the website to order CD's doesn't use https ???04:13
lsuactiafneri once removed glibc to see if it would indeed break my system..04:13
maybei'm not expert, HumpBack04:13
lsuactiafnerand it did..04:14
lsuactiafnerlol04:14
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Seveasmaybe, then why the hell did you touch it at all??04:14
shervHas anyONe out there had any 'black screens' when starting X using the intel 916GM chipset?04:14
maybeSeveas, want to solve it... i thought its content was not important, temporal04:14
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Seveasmaybe, then again, why remove things you don't understand...04:15
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Seveasmaybe, dpkg --update-avail /var/lib/apt/lists/ might help you...04:15
amrhmm04:16
Seveasor maybe even a simple apt-get update04:16
amrit appears mptest or something is broken04:16
dougskmaybe, try this link http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/examples/debian-package-database-rebuild04:16
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amrMod_python error: "PythonHandler mptest"04:16
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Seveasehm ouch, maybe04:17
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Seveas/var/lib/dpkg/info os only recoverable by reinstalling Ubuntu04:17
Seveasthat's what you get for doing things you should *never* do04:17
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snikerhi, anyones have experience with the package timeout for amd64?04:18
Seveashmm dougsk that script looks nice04:18
dantheman64I am trying to install ATI modules/drivers for my graphics card. When I do "apt-get install fglrx-driver" it has two options04:18
dantheman64Which do I choose?04:18
dougskSeveas, just googled a bit.  never personally had to use it04:19
Seveasdougsk, but I guess someone like maybe might have deleted /usr/share/doc as well...04:19
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dougskSeveas, yeah, that could happen and then it falls down04:19
Seveassome people do too stupid things to imagine...04:20
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dougskSeveas, yeah, but I suppose it's how we learn04:20
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Seveasno, learning these things should be done with manuals/documentation04:21
Seveasnot by randomly removing stuff...04:21
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dougskSeveas, heh heh04:22
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RouninHey... I installed Ubuntu on my laptop a while ago, but when it came to booting it up, it killed init, citing some problem with the graphics I believe... Anyone have any idea what that could be about?04:24
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RouninCould I have fixed it by booting with nofb or something in that order?04:24
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dantheman64Rounin, have you tried booting into the recovery mode and looking at the logs?04:25
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musashiAnyone have a good tutorial for making clearlooks themes?04:25
dantheman64musashi, there might be something at http://art.gnome.org/04:25
musashiok!04:25
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gabriel82how can i install kde on ubuntu?04:27
dougskgabriel82, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:27
Seveasgabriel82, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop04:27
dantheman64It might be easier to use the packager manager, no?04:27
gabriel82thank you guys04:27
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Rounindantheman64: Nah... I nistalled Fedora Core instead... :P I wonder if I have a partition where I could try again though04:27
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SeveasRounin, FC4 is a spawn of the devil :)04:28
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RouninSeems to be a pretty normal distro to me04:28
RouninThough with a EULA, of course, and about 90 package tools04:28
dougskSeveas, except it has Xen, and Netscape directory server, thigns I'm very much interested in trying04:29
Seveasand packed with incompatibility madness :)04:29
kcburyshakerlol04:29
kcburyshakeri almost downloaded fc4 instead of ubuntu04:29
kcburyshakersounds like i made the right choice04:30
RouninYeah.. Thing is, FC4 didn't induce a kernel panic on the first bootup04:30
RouninI'm going to see if I can't try Ubuntu again though04:30
RouninPerhaps I have an older version04:30
SeveasRounin, you might have been bitten by the initrd bug that was present for a week in the kernel packages :)04:30
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Seveasdid it say: VFS not syncing, attempying to kill init04:31
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Seveasor pivot_root: $something not found04:31
RouninSeveas: Ah!04:31
RouninThat seems possible04:31
RouninCheers04:31
SeveasRounin, on what type of harddisk were you installing Ubuntu?04:32
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chrisxpwtf is ubuntu?04:32
kcburyshakerlol04:32
cyphasea Linux distro04:32
kcburyshakersomething that made me uninstall winxp04:32
Echylohmm04:32
cyphaselol kc04:32
Echyloin our language they say "hello" when they come in a channel04:32
Echylonot 'wtf is ???"04:33
chrisxphello04:33
chrisxphello04:33
Seveaschrisxp, Ubuntu is an african word that means Humanity to Others04:33
Echylo:)04:33
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chrisxphello hello , hi, how r u, hello04:33
cyphaseor hi, or hey, or something that starts with an h04:33
cyphase:)04:33
Heimdallubuntu is really not a developper/scientist distribution, ther is not even gnuplot :):):)04:33
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chrisxphmmm04:33
SeveasHeimdall, of course there is...04:33
chrisxpheil hitler!04:33
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chrisxpit starts with h04:33
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cyphaseHeimdall, maybe not by default04:33
Echylolel04:33
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HeimdallSeveas : not by default04:33
Echylothat was quick04:33
SeveasHeimdall, of course not04:33
Heimdalland worst, no in the cd !!!!04:34
kcburyshakerseems he was a troublemaker04:34
SeveasHeimdall, how many people will use it?04:34
HeimdallSeveas : of course ??04:34
HeimdallSeveas : I don't know... me everyday :-D04:34
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SeveasHeimdall, it's not used by enough people to be included on the cd04:34
cyphaseHeimdall, it's in universe04:34
Seveasthe CD has limited space...04:34
HeimdallSeveas : but it could be on the cd04:34
HeimdallSeveas : well do more cds04:34
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cyphaseHeimdall, there should be only one cd04:35
kcburyshakerlol04:35
HeimdallSeveas : how many people don't have internet connection ?04:35
Echylowhat is gnuplot btw?04:35
SeveasHeimdall, no, Ubuntu is and probably always will be one cd04:35
cyphaseHeimdall, how many people need gnuplot04:35
SeveasEchylo, apt-cache show gnuplot04:35
Seveas:)04:35
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znhAAAH WIRELESS WORKS !!04:35
kcburyshakeri think it is a goal of ubuntu to be on one cd   makes things simpler for humanity04:35
HeimdallSeveas : I think this is a big problem with linux.. if you don't have the internet access... you're lost04:35
dougskHeimdall, they do a dvd make a dvd.04:35
mark_I installed zsnes and dosbox from the Package Manager but where does it put the installed files?04:35
Echylooh I see04:35
SeveasHeimdall, same goes for windows...04:35
cyphaseHeimdall, same with windows04:35
Echylothat explains the plot :p04:35
cyphaselol04:36
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Seveasmark_, dpkg -L zsnes04:36
HeimdallSeveas ? with windows what ?04:36
kcburyshakerwell   one thing for windows   if you dont have internet access   you cant get viruses04:36
mark_Seveas, do I put that in the terminal?04:36
Echylonot all software is included with windows04:36
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SeveasHeimdall, how are you going to install software on windows without internet connection?04:36
Heimdalllol04:36
cyphaseyou'll get problems in windows and not even have an internet connection04:36
kcburyshakertrue that too04:36
Echyloyou get even problems looking at it04:36
HeimdallSeveas : you buy it :p04:37
Seveasmark_, yes04:37
kcburyshakerif you blink at the monitor wrong   winblows will crash04:37
mark_ok04:37
cyphaseHeimdall, then but gnuplot04:37
cyphase;)04:37
cyphasebuy*04:37
Heimdalllol :)04:37
SeveasHeimdall, so, for linux you replace buy with download in an internetcafe and burn04:37
Heimdallokay okay okay you win :)04:37
Seveascosts you money too...04:37
dougskHeimdall, I suppose you could buy a set of disks from cheapbytes04:37
mark_excellent thanks Seveas! :)04:37
Seveasand GNU software can be ordered on CD from the Free Software Foundation...04:37
HeimdallSeveas : it is surely less accessible for "base people"04:38
Echyloand how are you gonna order it?04:38
kcburyshakerthats GNUrific!04:38
Echylowithout internet?04:38
cyphasephone04:38
SeveasEchylo, by writing a letter to the FSF04:38
cyphaseor mail04:38
kcburyshakersmoke signals04:38
Echylowooh04:38
Echylowriting letters04:38
cyphasemorse code04:38
mark_its a hell of a lot faster with OpenGL in Ubuntu too and completely fullscreen04:38
Chronos1ok...looking for a linux/laptop guru...older Dell laptop hangs after the first three language choice screen04:38
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Chronos1don't know linux well enough yet to figure out whats going on next04:39
SeveasChronos1, which screen do you mean?04:40
Echyloinstall screen? :)04:40
Seveasin the installer?04:40
Chronos1after the boot..you get three screens...default is us...english...04:40
Chronos1there are three screens that you have those choices04:41
SeveasChronos1, if this is the install/live CD, try booting with different acpi options04:41
Seveaslike acpi=off04:41
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green-how do you get root file privs/root term in ubuntu shell ... X died and I need root priv to change the xorg.conf04:43
lsuactiafnerbtw, nforce4 chipset temperature sensors.. anyone got it workin?04:43
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lsuactiafner0000:00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation CK804 SMBus (rev a2)04:43
Seveasgreen-, use sudo04:43
green-danke04:43
Seveasgreen: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:43
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redloungehi. anyone can tell me how to set the screen resolution at booting to 1400x1050?04:45
green-anyone else have ubuntu on their laptop and have issues w/ X not coming back after a lid close?04:45
lsuactiafnerredlounge : edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:45
Seveasredlounge, you mean during bootup or the graphical stuff starting with the login screen?04:46
redloungelsuactiafner: during boot process?04:46
redloungeduring boot04:46
Seveasredlounge, you need to add a framebuffer option to the #kopt line in /boot/grub/menu.lst04:46
redloungeSeveas: X is ok04:46
Seveasredlounge, ah ok, well, that doesn't hold for X :)04:47
Seveasfor X it's simply what lsuactiafner said :)04:47
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lukus001I just downlaoded real player and installed it.   When i goto applications>Sound & video>Real player nothing happens04:48
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RouninSeveas: I dunno, my internal laptop hard disk04:48
redloungeSeveas: isnt it the option vga=xxx?04:48
green-anyone have DVDs playing in ubuntu - if so, how? :)04:48
SeveasRounin, ah ok that's no fancy stuff, so yeah you got bitten by that bug :)04:48
Seveasredlounge, yes04:48
Seveaslukus001, try starting it from the terminal04:48
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lukus001Seveas: how do i do that via terminal?04:49
Demian___hello04:49
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Seveaslukus001, try to figure out the command to start it04:50
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Demian___does anyone know a working torrent for the linux install cd?04:50
Micksaremind me, when is breezy due for release?04:50
Echylooctober?04:50
Seveasin the terminal type real and hit tab twice for tab completion suggestions04:50
Echylodunno for sure04:50
Seveasoctober04:50
d0nk`Demian___: check ubuntu.com04:50
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RouninSeveas: Thanks for the help though! I feel like trying again now... Fedora Core is nice and all, but it's still just a byproduct of a corporation04:50
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gabriel82how can i unistall all the packages that were installed with kubuntu-desktop?04:51
Demian___d0nk`,  that one doesn't work04:52
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lukus001Seveas: I dont know :s04:52
Demian___that's why I ask04:52
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d0nk`that torrent?04:52
bethorhi. How can I leave a process running after logging out of a ssh session?04:52
d0nk`odd... i downloaded it the other day04:52
MDMhow can I share folders from a windows computer like mapped drives?04:52
d0nk`samba04:53
XandriXwhat does netdev watchdog eth0 transmit times out meen ??04:53
Rouninbethor: With screen I suppose04:53
lsuactiafnerbethor : screen run_process04:53
resiakgabriel82: deborphan ?04:53
lsuactiafnerthen screen -d04:53
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lsuactiafnerand then exit ssh04:53
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lukus001Seveas: i get a bunch of errors or somin running from terminal04:53
bethorRounin, lsuactiafner, thanks. I am rtfm :-)04:54
gabriel82resiak: what's that?04:54
resiakgabriel82: apt-cache show deborphan04:54
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Demian___is there a working torrent anywhere?04:54
Demian___and can someone direct me to it :)04:54
Demian___please04:54
Demian___it's taking me three hours to download the iso04:55
gabriel82resiak: how do i use it?04:55
Demian___and I know it'll go faster with azureus04:55
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MDMhow do I enable vsync in the nvidia drivers?04:55
resiakgabriel82: Install it, then man deborphan04:55
xinudgreat work Kubuntu team !! congrats04:55
gabriel82resiak: thanks04:55
nicolette_hi04:56
resiakgabriel82: The manual will tell you more04:56
Seveaslukus001, can you paste the errors at paste.ubuntulinux.nl please04:56
XandriXdoes anyone know what does netdev watchdog eth0 transmit times out meen ??04:56
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Seveasgabriel82, deborphan is quite useless for you04:57
lukus001Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/12504:57
Seveasgabriel82, try debfoster instead :)04:57
Seveaslukus001, have you tried installing your own themes/theme engine?04:57
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resiakSeveas: Hmm?04:58
lukus001Seveas: don't think so...i don't know what that is04:58
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Seveasresiak?04:58
resiakSeveas: Why is deborphan useless?04:58
Seveasresiak, deborphan only lists things04:58
Seveasdebfoster is a great tool for uninstaling unneeded stuff04:59
resiakSeveas: apt-get remove `deborphan` ?04:59
Seveaslukus001, try: sudo aptitude install gtk2-engines-smooth04:59
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Seveasresiak, eeek04:59
newbie_linuxhello04:59
lsuactiafnerwow my neighbor is hot04:59
Seveasthat'll remove all orphans04:59
Seveasand not recurse04:59
newbie_linuxis there an easy way where i can reinstall ubuntu?04:59
lsuactiafnerscrew linux, i'm going to put effort into meeting her..04:59
znhlsuactiafner: peeping at your neightbor :P ?04:59
resiakSeveas: Hmm, true. I use aptitude, so :)04:59
flodinecan i install kubuntu with my ubuntu04:59
Seveasdebfoster lets you choose per orphan whether to keep, uninstall or recursive ly uninstall it04:59
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Seveasresiak, even aptitude cannot handle everything :)05:00
lsuactiafnerznh : sadly no, she came to ask if there was varsity church tonight05:00
ivanoxwhich is the shortcut to switch between virtual desktops?05:00
newbie_linuxor is there a way where i can put Ubuntu back to the way it was in the beginning?05:00
znhivanox: what wm?05:00
lukus001Seveas: just done that, it installed but realplayer still doesnt work05:00
dantheman64ivanox, you have to set it in System -> Prefs -> Keyboard Shortcuts05:00
dantheman64it's near the bottom of the list05:00
Seveasivanox, look at system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts05:00
lsuactiafnermost of the questions here is 'how do i play my favourite pron movie...'05:00
dantheman64I have Alt+(1-4) set for the defaults05:00
flodinehow do i install KUBUNTU05:00
dantheman64Seavas ;-)05:00
znhlsuactiafner: so?05:00
resiakSeveas: Sure it can.05:01
lsuactiafnerubuntu should make one comamnd to install mplayer vlc ect and get it done with05:01
Seveasflodine, put the cd in your pc, boot and follow instructions...05:01
znhanyways anyone here got the rt2500 working?05:01
lukus001Seveas: actuall it didnt install anything by the looks but it done something ^05:01
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Seveasresiak, changing dependencies on upgrades sometimes go unnoticed :)05:01
flodineseveas i already got ubuntu installed05:01
Seveaslukus001: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats05:01
dantheman64Hey all... does anyone know how to run Counter-Strike Source in Ubuntu?05:01
Seveasgo there and see whether your problem is mentioned05:01
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Seveasflodine, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop05:02
resiakSeveas: Hmm.05:02
znhdantheman64: steam doesn't work with wine05:02
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lukus001Seveas: ok ill ahve a look there =)05:02
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jedipottsyhey05:02
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dantheman64znh: Thanks. What about Cedega?05:02
znhdantheman64: didn't try that one yet05:02
jedipottsycan someone give me a hand, with getting sound working? - how do i get the latest alsa drivers? ie what apt-get command05:02
rc51woodyhave a question05:02
flodineis kubuntu as good as ubuntu05:03
znhjedipottsy: alsa :)05:03
dantheman64znh, do you know anyone who got it to work at all?05:03
ivanoxgot cedega to work?05:03
Seveasflodine, it's basically the same distribution, so 'as good as' will merely depend on whether you like KDE or Gnome better05:03
znhdantheman64: nope.. you may try the non-steam version, but that's only for 1.6 (LAN ONLY)05:03
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ivanoxdantheman64, read query05:04
jedipottsyhow do i update alsa drivers?05:04
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resiakdantheman64: It works with Cedega, I hear05:04
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jedipottsyapt-get install alsa?05:05
znhjedipottsy: that would install it yes05:05
znhresiak: does it?05:05
resiakznh: So I hear. That's why I said "It works with Cedega, I hear".05:06
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jedipottsyznh, it says installed05:06
masahirois it easy to get kde installed on ubuntu with out downloading kubuntu?05:06
znhresiak: horay, going to try that then05:06
jedipottsyznh, and cant be updated05:06
znhjedipottsy: congrats05:06
znhjedipottsy: why do you want to upgrade a up2date package?05:06
jedipottsyznh, but sound still dont work, and i followed the guide on ubuntuguide still dont work05:07
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jedipottsyon FC4 - which sucks btw, i had to update the alsa drivers b4 it would work05:07
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green-fc4 is fine, imho - red hat is just not a desktop distro, out of the box, as far as i see it.. other distros are much better for that05:08
green-fedora, rather05:09
green-what are you guys using to play dvds on ubuntu?05:09
jedipottsyi liked fc3, but the included gcc4 in fc4 makes things a pain05:09
jedipottsyo ye, how do i enable laptop featues? ie laptop suspend, and battery?05:10
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HWolfjedipottsy, you're in for a rough ride, Ubuntu is converting to gcc4 for the next release05:11
jedipottsyino, but hopefully by that time, most of the apps, will be gcc4 compatible - ie wine dont work05:11
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Zukerohello05:12
jedipottsyhi05:12
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green-jedipottsy: i'm embarking on the same laptop stuff.. when you figure out stuff.. /msg me :) bbl05:13
jedipottsygreen-, sure05:13
lsuactiafnerRead 7.1 of 11 KiB of data, 2 KiB/sec.05:13
Zukeroi'm trying to set up a ftp server to exchange file with friends, i installes vsftpd, but i'm completely lost...05:13
lsuactiafnerrofl05:13
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lsuactiafnerZukero : proftpd is nicer05:14
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Zukerowell05:14
Zukerowhich one is nicer seems quite a personnal opinion05:14
Zukeroi tried proftpd too05:14
Zukeroand i'm as lost with one or another05:14
lsuactiafnerproftpd will get you laid05:14
Zukeroand05:15
Zukerowill you be able to help me set proftpd up ?05:15
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jedipottsygreen-, however im unable to get wireless working on my IPN2200 and i have tried alot, so if u have an incompatible Wirelesscard, then u might not be able to get it working05:15
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Zukeroi really don't mind which one to use05:15
Danarum, i need some help...05:15
lsuactiafnerZukero : dont have time, eating and back to studyin05:15
Danari'm trying to use gparted to resize a partition, and something went wrong05:15
Zukerook05:15
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lsuactiafnerbasically just lookin @ irc05:15
Demian___hello05:15
Zukeroyeah i know this kind of stuff well :)05:16
Demian___can I install a new version of hoary over an old warty?05:16
Danarit said there was an error, that it was trying to act on a busy device05:16
SeveasDemian___, you can dist-upgrade to hoary05:16
Danarsaid it was mounted05:16
Demian___Seveas, no I can't05:16
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kbrookswhy?05:16
Danarbut i checked before that and made sure it wasn't mounted. and even used lsof to make sure nothing was using it05:16
Demian___Seveas, I wish I could05:16
ZukeroDemian___ , i'm no pro, but seems that apt-upgrade is here to help you update your warty into an hoary05:16
SeveasDanar, you cannot resize partitions that are mounted, try using parted from a livecd05:16
kbrooks+05:16
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SeveasDemian___, then you'll have to wipe it clean05:17
Danari checked again after the error, and it's still not in use05:17
DanarSeveas, i am05:17
SeveasDanar, hmm...05:17
Seveascheck te output of mount (with no arguments)05:17
Danari tried again, and same thing05:17
selleckusdo I need to have the cpu frequency meter running in order for ubuntu to scale the frequency?05:17
Danarand it's still not mounted, and still nothing's using it05:17
Zukeroso anyone here have time to help me set a ftp server ? whatever the daemon, i don't care05:17
Danarand those partitions no longer show up in /dev05:18
SeveasZukero, sudo aptitude install vsftpd05:18
Danar:(05:18
Zukeroyeah05:18
SeveasZukero, and read through /usr/share/doc/vsftpd...05:18
Zukeroi allready have vsftpd05:18
lsuactiafnerselleckus : on amd you need powernowd running05:18
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jedipottsyne1 know how to get laptop suspend to disk to work?05:18
newbie_linuxhi05:18
lsuactiafnerZukero : apt-get install proftpd ; edit /etc/proftpd.conf and edit /etc/ftpusers and you are set05:18
SeveasDanar, if they don't show up in /dev the system doesn't recognize them...05:18
lsuactiafnerall very logical05:18
DanarSeveas, but gparted still sees them05:18
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newbie_linuxwhen i go to phpmyadmin, i get this message when i try to login: Error05:19
newbie_linux#2002 - Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)05:19
selleckusahh but if I have a pentium m on laptop it will automatically scle the frequency?05:19
newbie_linuxAny Ideas??05:19
Razor-XI couldn't sleep well -_-05:19
Danari've refreshed a few times in gparted... still shows up there05:19
Razor-Xall night I had 'eterm' in my head05:19
Danarbut the partition isn't resized05:19
lsuactiafnerselleckus : yes it should.. as far as i know05:19
Razor-Xand now i'm here, ready to tackle Eterm again!05:19
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lsuactiafnerRazor-X : think xterm05:19
newbie_linux#2002 - Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)05:19
newbie_linuxany ideas?05:19
Seveasnewbie_linux, install mysql-server05:20
Danartrying to resize hdb1, and hdb1 & hdb4 are no longer in /dev05:20
Danarbut gparted sees both05:20
XandriXwhen ubuntu is freshly installed whats the default root password ?05:20
newbie_linuxSeveas, i thought it was already installed??05:20
SeveasXandriX: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:20
Seveasthere is no root password05:20
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XandriXi cant atm ...05:20
SeveasXandriX, and please pay attention when installing, the installer has told you that...05:20
newbie_linuxSeveas, i already have the latest version it says05:21
kikkomanhow do i get sound with shockwave player?05:21
Danarcan anyone help?05:21
Seveasnewbie_linux, make sure it's started then..05:21
Danari don't want to lose everything...05:21
RouninHm05:21
Danarthere's lots of data at stake :(05:21
newbie_linuxSeveas, can you please tell me how05:21
kestaskikkoman: you mean the firefox flash plugin?05:21
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newbie_linuxi would appreciate it05:21
Seveasnewbie_linux, invoke-rc.d mysql start05:21
newbie_linuxthank u Seveas05:22
kikkomanyes05:22
kikkomanit plays the flash but theres no sound at all05:22
RouninHmm Seveas: My Ubuntu CD says "Warty"... Could that have been affected by the initrd bug you mentioned?05:22
Danaroh, and they showed up in /dev before i tried to resize the partition05:22
newbie_linuxSeveas, I get this message: Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed.  Please take a look at the syslog.05:22
Danarand i haven't rebooted or anything since05:22
Seveaskikkoman, sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0  /usr/lib/libesd.so.105:23
Seveasnewbie_linux, well, look at the syslog then05:23
newbie_linuxhow?05:23
SeveasRounin, yes05:23
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RouninAh!05:23
RouninWell, off to linuxiso.org then05:23
sensCan anyone help me install cadega / cedega / however it's spelt05:23
newbie_linuxSeveas, how do i get to the systemlog05:23
Danaranyone?05:23
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ThunderCrackerhi how long on average does it take for a new kernel to go into the the apt-repository?05:24
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Seveasnewbie_linux, less /var/log/mysql.log05:24
kestaskikkoman: okay05:24
SeveasThunderCracker, 2.6.12 will not be available in Hoary05:24
kestaskikkoman: you need to link /usr/lib/libesdsound.so.[whatever version] 05:25
SeveasBreezy has had 2.6.12 rc6 for quite a while already05:25
kikkomanyup works now thanks kestas05:25
Danaruh oh05:25
kestasto /usr/lib/libesoun-- oh05:25
Danardmesg has a bunch of these:05:25
Danarhdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }05:25
Danarhdb: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=70722, high=0, low=70722, sector=7072205:25
Danaride: failed opcode was: unknown05:25
Danarend_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 7072205:25
RouninBut it must be possible to get it from Debian's repositories even so?05:25
RouninOr is Debian even stricter05:25
Demian___If I want to upgrade from warty05:25
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SeveasDanar, do not paste in here....05:25
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Demian___I have to update the source list05:25
sensHow do I update through the repositories? If I go there it has loadsof things but what are they? Do I install them?05:25
Danarit's only a few lines05:25
SeveasDemian___: One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade05:25
Demian___and then do apt--get dist-upgrade05:25
newbie_linuxSeveas, there is nothing there?05:25
SeveasDanar, even a few lines are a lot when it's busy...05:25
Seveasnewbie_linux, try tail -n 100 /var/log/messages | less05:26
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Demian___Seveas, you rock05:26
newbie_linuxok05:26
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Seveas:p05:26
Danarwell, does that help anyone help me?05:26
newbie_linuxSeveas, nothing to do with MySQL05:27
Demian___auw05:27
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Seveasnewbie_linux, strange...05:27
newbie_linuxyes, i know05:27
rekaDemian___: you should have given flowers first05:27
Seveasdoes invoke-rc.d mysql restart work?05:27
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newbie_linuxwould you reccomend reinstalling mysql server, Seveas?05:27
Seveasnewbie_linux, first try invoke-rc.d mysql restart :)05:28
newbie_linuxok05:28
ThunderCrackerSeveas: why's that? it fixes a bug that means my ibook can't sleep...is there any way i can get it with out a dist-upgradE?05:28
selleckusis there a driver for the intel integrated graphics?05:28
SeveasThunderCracker, you can use apt pinning to get the 2.6.12 kernel05:28
kestasselleckus: yes05:28
newbie_linuxSeveas, it says this:05:28
Seveasselleckus, search the wiki05:28
newbie_linuxsudo invoke-rc.d mysql restart05:28
newbie_linuxStopping MySQL database server: mysqld.05:28
newbie_linuxStarting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed.05:28
newbie_linux        Please take a look at the syslog.05:28
selleckusahh thanks05:29
kestasnewbie_linux: take a look at the syslog then05:29
kestasnewbie_linux: at least go bother #mysql and not us05:29
refuze2loozeselleckus: yes. i81005:29
Seveasnewbie_linux, ok, it's time to sudo aptitude purge mysql-server && sudo aptitude install mysql-server05:29
refuze2loozeselleckus: i use it05:29
Danar:(05:29
Seveaskestas, who says it's a mysql problem?05:29
naliothThunderCracker: ibook sleep?05:29
Seveasmight as well be an Ubuntu problem05:29
newbie_linuxSeveas, ok05:29
Seveasand he looked at syslog already...05:30
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kestasSeveas: sure looks that way to me, does mysql work without setting any configuration options?05:30
dantheman64heya can the guy helping me before /query me05:30
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kestasSeveas: on freebsd you had to configure it first05:30
dantheman64I forgot your name, sorry :(05:30
Andlinux21hi there05:30
kestasand its probably the healthy thing to configure and read the manual before setting up a database05:30
Seveaskestas, on ubuntu not, you can login as root without password right after install...05:30
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RouninHm, whatn on Earth05:31
RouninUbuntu isn't listed on linuxiso.org... Have they gone daft?05:31
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kestasSeveas: what does that have to do with mysqld not starting though?05:31
SeveasRounin, try releases.ubuntu.com05:31
Seveasor release.ubuntu.com05:31
RouninOn it :)05:31
Seveaskestas, maybe something went wrong during install...05:31
Andlinux21i keep getting the following error05:32
Andlinux21GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary05:32
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Andlinux21should i take that out of the repository listing?05:32
kestasnot likely.. the error is going to be in syslog isnt it05:32
Seveaskestas, well, there was no error in syslog...05:32
xxenonis "noinotify" still needed when starting a 2.6.12 kernel ?05:32
kestasit did say to look in syslog, no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater05:32
newbie_linuxSeveas, Thank you so much, it works now05:32
kestasbut it said there was an error and to look in syslog05:32
kestashe didnt even look05:32
newbie_linuxSeveas ROCKS!05:32
SeveasAndlinux21, try apt-get update05:32
teroednihello i have a generic 386 kernel installed05:32
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SeveasAndlinux21, if that doesn't help: wait an hour05:33
Andlinux21Seveas: ok05:33
scottOn my thinkpad the trackpoint cursor moves slower than the trackpad. anyone know how to speed it up to exactly the same speed as the trackpad?05:33
Seveasthese errors can happen during archive updates05:33
naliothAndlinux21: that just means there is no gpg key on your machine for that repo05:33
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GNULinuxerscott, which kernel?05:33
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teroedniin synaptic i see a possible to install linux k7 kernel05:33
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teroedniwill that kernel run faster on an Amd machine?05:34
scottGNULinuxer: linux-686 with hoary05:34
teroedniand whats is smp?05:34
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GNULinuxerscott, is it 2.6.11 or 2.6.10 ?05:34
kestassymmetric multii processor05:34
Andlinux21i will try the apt-get update05:34
Danarok, gparted says: "At least one operation was applied to a busy device."05:34
Seveasteroedni, it might run faster indeed05:34
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naliothteroedni: dual procoessor (symetric multiprocesser)05:34
Seveasand -smp is needed when you have a multiprocessor machine05:34
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teroedniahh05:34
RouninHm... There05:34
Danareven though lsof & mount say otherwise05:34
refuze2loozeteroedni: on an AMD k7 machine it would give a slight performance increase to use the k7 kernel05:34
RouninThere's no release that's optimized for i686 though right05:34
RouninIt's the 386 iso or nothing05:34
SeveasRounin, indeed05:35
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Danaranyone know what might cause this?05:35
scottGNULinuxer: 2.6.1005:35
Seveasthere's no space for multiple kernels on 1 cd05:35
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WimpieHi all, being a kde user I would like to remove gnome completely and reinstall gnome libs when needed.05:35
WimpieWhat is the easiest way to do this ?05:35
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SeveasWimpie, use debfoster to remove it05:35
scottWimpie: install kubuntu05:35
teroedniso the i just remove the generic and install k7 and all should work next time i boot?05:35
refuze2loozeDanar: try unmounting the device first05:35
Danarrefuze2looze, it's not mounted05:35
RouninSeveas: Well, at least that proves that 386 is still a decent instruction set :D05:35
WimpieI did install kubuntu but it installs on top of unbuntu and leaves gnome apps05:36
refuze2loozeDanar, strange.. i think that happened to me before too actually05:36
SeveasRounin, ROFL!!!!05:36
Danar:(05:36
SeveasRounin, 386 and co are terrible instruction sets05:36
RouninThey've got memory proteciton haven't they :)05:36
Danarthere's ~200Gb at stake here, and no one's helping05:36
teroednii can change the kernel in synaptic without reinstall Ubuntu?05:36
refuze2loozeDanar, did you try using gparted with the Live CD?05:36
RouninImagine like... Z80Linux05:36
Seveaswhy else would modern processors devote a third of their power into translating 386 opcodes into simpler instructions...05:36
kikkomanim having trouble with the mplayer plugin..it hangs on buffering part =/05:36
Danarrefuze2looze, i am05:36
GNULinuxerscott, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3993.html05:36
scottGNULinuxer: why?05:36
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teroedniplease05:37
RouninHmm Seveas... That is pretty terrible05:37
scottGNULinuxer, scratch that, I'll check out the url, thanks05:37
RouninAnd here Apple's changing to Intel nonetheless05:37
refuze2loozeteroedni: yes you can.. the new kernel will be in use once you restart05:37
Seveaskikkoman, set ao=esd in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf05:37
GNULinuxerscott, the 2.6.11 has diff problem05:37
teroedniahh thanks05:37
SeveasRounin, intel has other architectures too :)05:37
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Danari don't have ubuntu installed yet. i'm working on that. i'm on the livecd trying to resize a partition, but i think i'm about to lose everything :(05:38
Danar(or already have)05:38
teroednithen i try THanks:)05:38
refuze2loozeDanar, i think maybe it's because the live cd is using your swap.. i'm not really sure05:38
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refuze2loozeDanar, just back everything up and do a clean reformat05:38
Danarit is, but there's a seperate partition for that...05:39
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Danarrefuze2looze, how can i back it up when 1- it's 200Gb, and 2- those partitions no longer show up in /dev05:39
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Danar?05:39
wouterlin the warty, is gcc installed by default? because the command gcc doesn't work (command not found)05:39
refuze2loozeDanar, it says "busy device" suggesting that the whole drive has to be not in use05:39
Seveaswouterl, it's not installed by default05:40
Seveasbut available on the CD and from the net05:40
refuze2loozewouterl: no, install build-essentials with synaptic05:40
Seveassudo aptitude install build-essential05:40
wouterlok tnx05:40
Danarhow am i supposed to prevent it from using the swap partition?05:40
Seveasthe livecd will not automatically use your swap afaik05:40
Danarit did05:41
Danarand is05:41
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refuze2loozeyeah it does05:41
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Seveasoh05:41
Seveasok05:41
SeveasNice feature :)05:41
Danar:(05:41
refuze2loozeDanar: i think maybe you can try using slack-live05:41
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refuze2loozeDanar: i mean slax05:42
RouninSeveas: That new 64-bit stuff that they copied from AMD, what kind of instruction set does that use though?05:42
Danarif i lose 200Gb because of this (again) i'll be pissed >:(05:42
Seveasbooting with the noswap option might help, but i'm not sure...05:42
Danarif i reboot in this condition, will i lose data?05:42
SeveasRounin, intel did not copy their 64bit stuff from amd...05:42
Seveasneither did amd from intel05:42
Seveasand they use completely new instruction sets05:42
SeveasRounin, but that's way too off-topic here, use google to find the specs :)05:43
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Danar[...] ?05:43
RouninAha05:43
SeveasDanar, you can use umount to unmount the swap partition. Then it's no longer 'in use'05:44
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refuze2loozeSeveas: how will he be able to install gparted? onto RAM?05:44
Andlinux21all my xterm windows wont open05:44
Seveasrefuze2looze, hmm..05:44
Danarwould that be /tmp?05:44
Andlinux21they just crash05:44
refuze2loozei think SLAX can install programs onto RAM, i remember reading something like that05:45
scottGNULinuxer: I don't see in that article how to speed up the trackpoint05:45
Seveasrefuze2looze, ubuntu does that too05:45
refuze2loozeoh05:45
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Danarumount: /tmp: device is busy05:45
Seveasbut you are limited by your ram size05:45
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Seveasand i don't know how big gparted will be :)05:45
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DunkMasterhey yo yo yoo05:45
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refuze2loozeDanar, try rebooting with noswap i guess.. it's alreayd in use so i don't see how you can unmount it now05:46
refuze2loozeDanar, you didn't save any partition changes or anyhting like that did you?05:46
teroedniworks like a charm thanks guys05:46
teroedniand girls05:46
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DunkMasterwhat are MSN protocol clients exept GAIM, aMSN and ayttm avaliable for Ubuntu?05:46
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Danarrefuze2looze, yes!05:47
SeveasDunkMaster, bitlbee05:47
kikkomanis there a way to make the video bigger when watching trailers from "apple.com"?05:47
refuze2loozeDunkMaster, GAIM and aMSN are the best ones05:47
Danarthat's when it gave the error05:47
FirstLiteDanar: try "swapoff -a"05:47
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SeveasDunkMaster, or Kopete05:47
DunkMasterty Seveas, Refuze2looze05:47
DanarFirstLite, hey, thx!05:47
refuze2loozeDanar, but i don't think it changed anything cause it returned an error05:48
scottanyone using IMMS with BMP?05:48
FirstLiteDanar: no problem05:48
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Danarhrm, i tried again, and it still gave an error, though this time it didn't say the device was busy05:48
DunkMasteroh05:48
DunkMasteri forgot05:48
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Danardoesn't say what the error is though :(05:49
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Danar"Error while resizing/moving /dev/hdb1"05:49
narchcan anyone help me with hotplug? i'm trying to add a v4tunnel device to my network interfaces, but hotplug refuses to bring the interface up because it says the kernel has no INET6 support, ipv6 is listed in /etc/modules, and ipv6 is available after the system is started...05:49
rc51woodyhaving trouble installing java to firefox... followed the how-to but did not succeed...05:49
Danar"Be aware that the failure to apply this operation could affect other operations on the list."05:49
Danar(there's nothing else on the list)05:49
naliothrc51woody: WHICH howto did you follow?05:50
DunkMasterAyttm gave me this: Couldnt conenct to MSN HTTPS server (bad cookies)05:50
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DanarDunkMaster, might try gaim05:50
DunkMasterim using gaim05:50
DunkMasterayttm is just fast05:50
rc51woodynalioth: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre05:50
DunkMasterand its slow machine05:50
Danarso both give the error?05:50
DunkMasterno05:51
DunkMasteronly ayttm05:51
Danarthen..05:51
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naliothrc51woody: now that you've see it, the ubuntuguide lots of times, does not05:51
Danarat least you can use gaim then05:51
rc51woodydang't05:51
DanarDunkMaster, look through the settings...05:51
DunkMasterbah :)05:51
DunkMasteri did05:51
DanarDunkMaster, maybe compare them to gaim's settings05:51
Seveasrc51woody, ubuntuguide is bad05:51
Seveasrc51woody: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 05:52
Danarlook for something different05:52
DunkMastersettings are exactly the same as in gaim05:52
rc51woodynalioth: your suggestion for the best source05:52
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naliothrc51woody: here ya go https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingJavaSupport05:52
Danargoogle the error05:52
DunkMasterokay05:52
DunkMasterwill try05:52
DunkMasterthanx05:52
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kikkomanwhen view trailers from "apple.com" site..the plugins great but part of the movie is cut off o_O05:52
narchcan anyone help me with hotplug? i'm trying to add a v4tunnel device to my network interfaces, but hotplug refuses to bring the interface up because it says the kernel has no INET6 support, ipv6 is listed in /etc/modules, and ipv6 is available after the system is started...05:53
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Danarso what am i supposed to do about a generic, unspecified error that might cause me to lose tons of data??05:54
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naliothnarch: give it a few minutes tween the same question. if anyone in here knows about that subject, they will answer05:54
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refuze2loozeDanar, that's a tough one =p05:54
XandriX aaa ramorama05:54
Danaranything like gparted which can cause data loss ought to be a little more specific when giving errors!05:54
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Seveasrc51woody, please ask first before sending private messages..05:54
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arnonymi've built a 2.6.12 kernel with dpkg and now i have the problem that all IDE drivers are loaded permanently and i can't mount local filesystems other than root05:55
refuze2loozeDanar, you really should create more than 1 partition where you can backup data and only format the / partition05:55
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Danarrefuze2looze, i'm working on that...05:55
refuze2loozeDanar, hopefully it's not too late hehe05:56
rc51woodyseveas: can i private you05:56
Danarbut i have to shrink this partition, so i can expand another one, so i can move more data from this partition onto it05:56
Danarso i can repeat, and eventually delete this partition05:56
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naliothrc51woody: if you ask your ? in chan, more people can learn from teh answer(s)05:57
refuze2loozeDanar, i would try restarting using noswap like Seveas suggested05:57
Danari'm trying to move around ~200Gb total here....05:57
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Danarrefuze2looze, i already turned it off, remember?05:57
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Heaviette"05:57
refuze2loozeDanar, yeah while it's already booted up.. sometimes things that make no sense work05:58
FirstLiteDanar: I missed the beginning of the conversation.  Is /dev/hdb1 an NTFS partition?  Did you defrag it before trying to resize?05:58
Danarno05:58
XandriXso will anyone tell me once that my ubuntu is freashly installed how i change the root password and whats the default05:58
Danarhdb1 is fat3205:58
refuze2loozeDanar, ohh.. you're trying to resize a fat32 partition??05:58
bob2XandriX: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo05:58
SeveasXandriX, do you ever READ what people say?05:58
refuze2loozeDanar, you have to defrag it05:58
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naliothXandriX: there is no root account05:58
Danari'm trying to move the data to hdb4, which is ext205:58
bob2XandriX: that is in the FAQ, of course05:58
Seveasi've told you that already...05:58
naliothXandriX: use "sudo" for all your power needs05:58
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BrutusUnixwhat is the divx decoder called?05:59
Danarwell that helps05:59
Danaris there a linux defrag app?05:59
XandriXmy mouseis dead atm i cant rly open a browser05:59
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bob2Danar: no05:59
bob2XandriX: sure you can05:59
XandriXnalioth, u need the root password to sudo lol05:59
Danarthen how am i supposed to defrag it?05:59
SeveasXandriX, READ that wikipage...05:59
scottI remember seeing a cool gnome launcher program but I can't remember its name.. anyone know of one?05:59
bob2XandriX: alt-f2 mozilla-firefox <enter> ctrl-l http://... <enter>05:59
Seveasyou don't need a root password...05:59
refuze2loozeXandriX, the root password is your account password05:59
Danari don't have windows anymore05:59
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=== XandriX is frekaign tired of getting told rtfm all the time jsut awnser it damn is that so too much to ask
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bob2XandriX: good bye!06:00
SeveasXandriX, yes, it is if you keep asking the same questions...06:00
Danarbob2, just to be clear, i mean a linux app for defragging fat32...06:00
bob2XandriX: you're right, it would be way more efficient for us to paste webpages in here than for you to read it yourself06:00
Seveaswhich can all be answered by the same wikipage...06:00
bob2Danar: there isn't one that I know of06:00
Danar:(06:00
XandriXomfg06:00
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XandriXi get better suport in the redhat channel eeep06:00
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bob2XandriX: you were given the correct answer 5 times, I'm sorry if that isn't good enough for you06:00
naliothXandriX: open a terminal and type "man sudo"06:01
BrutusUnixThink I'm going back to slackware also06:01
XandriXtrfm is nto a correct awnser06:01
bob2XandriX: in addition to this being in the FAQ, on the front page of the wiki, and being explained in the installer06:01
SeveasXandriX, if you don't care to be a bit cooperative, why do you expect help..?06:01
refuze2loozeXandriX, before you come asking questions here you should always check the ubuntu wiki, the ubuntu forums, google. then you can come ask in here06:01
bob2XandriX: you didn't get a "rtfm", stop whinging06:01
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bob2XandriX: you got told the exact URL for the answer you asked for06:01
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ZuninoCould anyone help me get my language and keyboard layout settings back on the KDE's Control Center (already tried at #kubuntu, but none could help)06:01
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ZuninoAt the moment the list of available languages is empty!06:02
bob2Zunino: the options don't exist in kcontrol anymore at all?06:02
avinoamI am using ubuntu on a dell inspiron laptop, and i think that power management is causing the computer to drop the cable connection after a while. how do i fix this?06:02
bob2Zunino: did they used to be there?06:02
ZuninoNo, they are gone.06:02
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ZuninoYes06:02
ZuninoAnd06:02
Seveasavinoam, have you tried booting with acpi=off?06:02
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bob2Zunino: what have you changed since they were there?06:02
Danaryou sure i have to defrag fat32 before resizing it?06:02
DunkMasterDanar: google didnt help06:02
DunkMaster:(06:02
Danar:/06:02
ZuninoThe only thing I have done is trying to install the newest ATI driver.06:02
avinoamseveas what is acpi? and how do i set that?06:02
bob2avinoam: I'd be fairly surprised if power management caused that06:02
ZuninoAfter that, I ran fglrxconfig06:03
DanarDunkMaster, does it save your account info?06:03
DunkMasteryes06:03
DanarDunkMaster, you could try deleting & recreating it...06:03
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ZuninoAnd since then I havent been able to type latin characters with my US-layout keb06:03
DunkMasterokay06:03
avinoambob2 it can't cause ethernet card to shut off on a laptop?06:03
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DunkMasterayttm worked on DamnSmallLinux last time i used it06:03
refuze2loozeDanar, yeah it needs to be defragged06:03
Seveasavinoam, when booting, hit escape to cancel the timeout, go to the line of the kernel you want to boot, hit e to edit the line and add acpi=off to that line06:03
jedipottsyffs this takes the pi$$06:03
bob2avinoam: not that I know of06:03
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jedipottsyis there no auto detect audio hardware for Ubuntu?06:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow to install a tar.gz file?06:04
bob2jedipottsy: of course there is06:04
avinoamseveas can't i add that to my startup script?06:04
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skalleranyone here know anything about libgal?06:04
bob2jedipottsy: perhaps your card is special and isn't detected06:04
ZuninoI will now try running fglrxconfig again, but I am not sure that could affect the options available from the drop down list on the control center.06:04
Seveasavinoam, of course you can06:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYor should i get wine from synaptic?06:04
DanarDunkMaster, OTOH, another possibility is MS changed the protocol again, and gaim is updated, but it's not...06:04
avinoamseveas how? and what is acpi before i kill it?06:04
Seveasadd it to the kernel lines in menu.lst :)06:04
jedipottsyits an ATI IPX ac9706:04
bob2skaller: what do you want to know about it?06:04
FirstLiteDanar: yeah, I'm pretty sure you do.  Although fat32 is (iirc) supported under Linux too, so maybe you don't need to touch it at all?06:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYand wine tools as well06:04
skallerwho the maintainer is?06:04
rekaZunino: sounds like fglrxconfig stuffed up your xorg.conf file06:04
Seveasavinoam, acpi is power management stuff06:04
DanarFirstLite, yeah, it's supported, but i want to resize it06:04
bob2skaller: in ubuntu?06:04
avinoami see06:04
refuze2loozeDanar, you can try this http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/\06:04
jedipottsyATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) - straight from lspci06:05
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skalleryeah, i have libgal2.4 but the -dev package for it says 2.606:05
ZuninoYeah, thats what I think too06:05
avinoamwhere is my boot script?06:05
Seveasavinoam, /boot/grub/menu.lst06:05
jedipottsybut it dont work06:05
DunkMasterDanar: possible06:05
ZuninoLet me try going through it again.06:05
avinoamseveas i am on lilo i think06:05
bob2skaller: how is that a problem?06:05
refuze2loozegotta run06:05
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Filo_are there italian people ?06:05
rekaZunino: dd you make a backup?06:05
Seveasavinoam, ah, i don't know about lilo, sorry06:05
bob2Filo_: #ubuntu-it06:05
SeveasFilo_, #ubuntu-it06:05
skallerautoconf scripts checking with pkg-config don't find the installed library06:06
avinoamisn't the default lilo?06:06
ZuninoGood question :)06:06
Danarrefuze2looze, :/ is there anything that doesn't involve rebooting (or downloading more livecd isos)?06:06
Seveasavinoam, no06:06
bob2skaller: you're using breezy?06:06
skalleryeah06:06
skallertrying to06:06
ZuninoI will be back06:06
rekaZunino: check the directory.  it may have made one automatically06:06
ZuninoThanks for the help so far06:06
DanarDunkMaster, make sure you're using the latest version06:06
ZuninoRight. Thanks.06:06
jedipottsylol samba works fine tho :D06:06
bob2Filo_: please don't /msg people06:06
avinoamseveas does GDE have a GUI power management setting area?06:06
DunkMasteri am using the latest06:06
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DanarDunkMaster, which might not be in the repository...06:06
Danarso check their page06:07
DunkMasterokay, i will06:07
skallersome of breezy works fine .. but not evolution so I'm trying to build from source06:07
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skallercant do much without email :)06:07
bob2I assume you filed a bug?06:07
skallerhow?06:08
avinoamseveas where shall i put the line?06:08
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Seveasavinoam, add it to the line that begins with the word kernel06:08
bob2skaller: http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/06:08
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skallerbit tricky doing anything until enough of the base system works .. i could use mozilla mail client .. but don't ask my to revert to mailx :)06:09
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Danarhow come ext3 doesn't need defragging?06:09
bob2Danar: because it places files carefully on disk to begin with06:09
naliothDanar: ext2, -3 and reiserfs 'defrag' on the fly06:10
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Danarnalioth, uh, there's an ext2 defrag utility...06:10
DunkMasterhmmm06:10
bob2I'm 99% certain that's not true.06:10
DunkMasterlooks like i do have latest version06:10
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narchdanar, it hasn't been updated in years tho, if its the util i'm thinking of06:10
avinoamseveas but i think i need acpi for some things... on my laptop.... can't i play with acpi?06:10
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naliothDanar: where did you get it? and what is it written for?06:10
narchdanar, it used to be necessary, i remember having ext2 filesystems that were 20+% fragmented, but that was a long time ago06:11
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Danarnalioth, i just searched 'defrag' in synaptic, and there it was06:11
naliothand some fine soul has written a 'defrag' for linux to use on fragmented torrent files06:11
Seveasavinoam, well, you said you sispected acpi caused the problem, so the first step is running without acpi to see if it happens without acpi too06:11
_kevinWhy can't i view videos online.. Being streamed... Like i goto MTV and try to view a music video and the thingy would pop up but i see no video06:11
virtualdwhen using bittorrent and not preallocating space for the files, doesn't the files get very fragmented? is there som way to check?06:11
avinoamseveas, and if that is the problem, what do i do?06:11
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Tallia1[UbuntU] hi06:12
_kevinFirefox doesn't play it06:12
Seveasavinoam, then you can google for a more specific solution ;)06:12
LinuxJonesTallia1[UbuntU] , welcome06:12
Tallia1[UbuntU] today i have a VERY BIG problem06:12
avinoamseveas ok06:12
narchvirtual, the easy way to defrag them, is to just cp them and delete the original06:12
avinoami shall try06:12
naliothvirtuald: sourceforge has those torrent defrag tools, if you care to go there and check06:12
virtualdok06:12
Tallia1[UbuntU] kernel panic06:12
virtualdthanks06:12
DunkMasterwhat does gnome meeting do?06:12
bob2Tallia1[UbuntU] : please don't tell us you compiled your own kernel06:12
bob2DunkMaster: video conferencing06:12
LinuxJonesTallia1[UbuntU] , you compile your own kernel ?06:12
Tallia1[UbuntU] no06:12
Tallia1[UbuntU] i didn't06:13
DunkMasterok Bob206:13
Tallia1[UbuntU] it's the original kernel..06:13
Danarnarch, doesn't work when you don't have enough room06:13
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Tallia1[UbuntU] http://spaces.msn.com/members/tallia1/PersonalSpace.aspx?_c01_photoalbum=showdefault&_c=photoalbum06:13
Tallia1[UbuntU] at this page you can see my problem.. (third photo)06:13
_kevinI can hear sounds live streams but no video06:13
_kevinwhat gives06:13
_kevinit's a real media stream06:13
Tallia1[UbuntU] what can i do in order to fix it?06:14
Tallia1[UbuntU] i'm getting crazy...06:14
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LinuxJones_kevin, what format is the server streaming ?06:14
_kevinrm06:14
_kevini think06:14
narchanyway, iirc, e2info will display the fragmentation of a filesystem06:14
SeveasTallia1[UbuntU] , have you been editing /boot/grub/menu.list manually?06:14
LinuxJones_kevin, you will need realplayer to view that06:14
Danar_kevin, try http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs06:14
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Tallia1[UbuntU] nope.. i installed webmin grub module..06:15
Tallia1[UbuntU] this is the only thing that i did lately06:15
_kevinI have the codec alreadt06:15
bob2right, so that would be it06:15
_kevinalready*06:15
_kevinand the real player is broken06:15
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SeveasTallia1[UbuntU] , have you been editing the grub config with it?06:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone use dosbox?06:15
_kevinfrom the thing on the guide06:15
Tallia1[UbuntU] i only changed a couple of name...06:15
Danarwell, i can't defrag hdb1 (fat32) or hdb4 (ext2) anyway, cause they no longer show in /dev :(06:15
Seveas_kevin, the ubuntuguide.org os broken :)06:15
_kevini tried before it downloads and installs but it never opens up06:15
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SeveasTallia1[UbuntU] , i bet you messed up there...06:16
Tallia1[UbuntU] but i went on the grub channel and they told me that all was ok in the config file06:16
siganyone know where to get a version of "dvdstyler" for ubuntu ?06:16
SeveasTallia1[UbuntU] , try booting with a livecd and putting the grub config on a pastebin06:16
Tallia1[UbuntU] it seems that there's a file system error..06:16
_kevinSeveas I don't understand what you just said06:16
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Tallia1[UbuntU] but by explore2fs in windows i can acecss the root partiiton correctly06:16
narchsig, its on either marillat or rareware's respository06:16
Seveas_kevin: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats06:16
Seveasgo to that site..06:17
avinoamseveas i have restarted, but now i can't see how much battery is left, which is unfortunate06:17
unrealwould anyone here have a clue why my wireless keyboard works, and the wireless mouse doesn't? (they both use the same USB receiver, and I know the mouse works after doing cat /dev/input/mouse1 (/dev/psaux appears to be identical to that too)06:17
DunkMasterthank you for your help06:17
DunkMasterbye06:17
DunkMaster!06:17
skalleroh poop, need kerberos 4 and have 5 ;(06:17
ubotuDunkMaster: Are you smoking crack?06:17
avinoamand by the way, i  found a bug in xine06:17
DunkMasterme?06:17
DunkMasterno06:17
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DunkMasterwhy should i?06:17
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signarch: marillat's?06:17
rekalol06:17
SeveasTallia1[UbuntU] , good enough, paste your menu.list on a pastebin please :)06:17
narchsig, yeah06:17
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sigwhat is the full path so I can add it to my repository06:17
Tallia1[UbuntU] btw i'll re-install grub.. but i think that the problem is the file system..06:17
narchsig,  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main06:17
DunkMasterokay, byes06:17
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Tallia1[UbuntU] is there a way to fix the file system?06:17
avinoamHow do i write a script to run my cable modem logon script?06:18
narchsig, or it might be on : deb http://www.rarewares.org/debian/packages/unstable ./06:18
Seveasnarch, marillat should not be used on hoary...06:18
Tallia1[UbuntU] Seveas: ok06:18
narchsig, be careful what you grab from those repositories tho06:18
Andlinux21ubotu: lol06:18
ubotuAndlinux21: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about06:18
xvlunTallia1[UbuntU] , fsck.ext3 if you use it06:18
mnehi there ! I'm using a debian base install, but the Xorg with all its dependencies is from ubuntu hoary which is the reason I came here. My problem is that the Xorg (the process Xorg) uses at least 245MB RAM, if Xorg runs for some time it even uses more than 350MB RAM. I have no explanation for the high memory usage since the same Xorg packages on my other boxes use about 40MB RAM. Any hints ? Could it be the graphic driver module (I06:18
mneuse nvidia) ?06:18
narchsig, they're compiled against debian, and sometimes rely on Xfree packages, and stuff, you can get into a mess if you're not careful06:18
HeimdallSeveas : I have installed tetex, but this is not the same thing as latex ? :/06:18
SeveasHeimdall, it is..06:18
Danarhow can i defrag hdb1 (fat32) or hdb4 (ext2) when they no longer show in /dev ?06:18
narchsig, i don't remember any dependancy issues with dvdstyler tho06:18
Andlinux21ubotu: i was just laffin at you asking him if he smoked crack06:18
ubotuAndlinux21: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about06:18
xvluntetex is a latex distribution06:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone use dosbox?06:18
HeimdallSeveas : oh sorry... I typed tex, and not latex06:19
Seveasmne, Xorg on Debian is not really supported...06:19
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.06:19
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LinuxJonesmne, is your hard drive grinding away because of it ?06:19
rekaAndlinux21: ubotu is a bot :-)06:19
DanarChurcH_of_FoamY, i have06:19
Heimdallokay... thanks :)06:19
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ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok06:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYsorry06:19
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ChurcH_of_FoamYDanar have you tryed it with doom?06:19
Andlinux21reka: thanks but it was funny06:19
mneLinuxJones, yeah, sometimes it starts to swap since all my RAM (1GB) if full06:19
gteppelHow would I restrict root from logging into my box, meaning that the user has to first log in with a regular account and then su to root. I've already restricted this for ssh, but I'm not sure how do accomplish this for the actually physical box06:19
DanarChurcH_of_FoamY, no... i ran the linux version of doom06:20
HeimdallSeveas :it is quite long to download all the apckages :/06:20
Danarer, doom 3 actually06:20
Seveasgteppel, by not messing with the default config :)06:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhere can i get it?06:20
mneSeveas, As I already said it's NOT debian specific since all X related packages and dependencies are from hoary.06:20
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unrealhmm06:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh i wanted to run doom 3.106:20
LinuxJonesmne, that's horrid, have you considered installing Ubuntu or reverting to xfree ?06:20
Seveasgteppel, cause by default it's disabled...06:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYfor dos06:20
Demian___why can't I apt-get smeg?06:20
DanarChurcH_of_FoamY, which one?06:20
Tallia1[UbuntU] Seveas: http://pastebin.com/30186206:20
Tallia1[UbuntU] here it is06:20
Danark06:20
gteppelk06:21
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ChurcH_of_FoamYDanar which doom?06:21
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unrealI might as well burn the livecd disc and check if it detects my mouse there, and hopefully i'll be able to copy the config and get it working here06:21
Danarmaybe this: http://www.gamers.org/dhs/helpdocs/Linux-DOOM-FAQ.html#where06:21
LinuxJonesunreal, what kind of mouse do you have ?06:21
SeveasTallia1[UbuntU] , omg, you messed it up quite a bit06:21
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ChurcH_of_FoamYDanar Thanx ^_^06:21
unrealI have a wireless keyboard and mouse, the keyboard works fine straight away, the mouse doesn't06:21
unrealbut I know the mouse works after doing cat /dev/input/mouse106:22
mneLinuxJones, I used the same ubuntu package on my other debian machine where it just works fine. I guess it has something to do with the graphic driver module. I'm considering "upgrading" to ubuntu, unfortuately I currently have no time for it. (maybe in July)06:22
SeveasTallia1[UbuntU] , the initrd lines should be placed right after the kernel lines06:22
DanarChurcH_of_FoamY, np. just went to google.com/linux and searched 'doom'06:22
SeveasTallia1[UbuntU] , and definitely before boot06:22
avinoamCan someone tell me how to write a script which runs the program "cd Desktop/netvision" and then "sudo ./cablestart.v031 kramer83 eth0"?06:22
SeveasTallia1[UbuntU] , that's what's causing this....06:22
Tallia1[UbuntU] i tried..06:22
mneLinuxJones, is there a way to debug the Xorg server ?06:22
Tallia1[UbuntU] nothing changes..06:22
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ChurcH_of_FoamYduh keep forgetting the benifets of google >.<06:22
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Tallia1[UbuntU] i tried just befor i uninstalled grub.. :(06:22
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avinoamwhile of course prompting me for SU password?06:22
LinuxJonesmne, it must be related in some way if that's the only difference, can you try using the vesa module to see if there is a change ?06:22
scotta lot of times when I change songs or skip forward (also in movies) in totem and other players I hear a loud screach. anyone know how to get rid of that?06:23
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Tallia1[UbuntU] do you know if in the net there's a grub CD ISO?06:23
DanarLinuxJones, you have a mic?06:23
signarch: when I added a marrilat repo I got failed to fetch blah MD5Sum mismatch ?06:23
mneLinuxJones, thats a good tip, I'll try it out. the funny thing is taht other people use the same nvidia kernel module and Xorg module and they don't have these problems ..06:23
Danaroops06:24
LinuxJonesDanar, nope06:24
Tallia1[UbuntU] Seveas: so i can reinstall grub :)06:24
Danarnot you06:24
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Danarmeant scoot06:24
Danar*scott06:24
Danarlol06:24
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narchsig, yeah, that repository has no md5sums or something :(06:24
naliothsig: don't use marillat06:24
LinuxJonesmne, I have a GF5200 and xorg is using about 40 MB of memory06:24
mneLinuxJones, I'm trying the vesa module now, I'll tell you if it changes my situation when I'm done. thanks for helping06:24
signalioth: but I want a package that isn't provided by ubuntu06:24
LinuxJonesmne, GL :)06:24
avinoamnot everybody at once now!!06:25
narchnalioth: you could try backports, but i'm not sure if dvdstyler is in there or not06:25
LinuxJonesDanar, that wasn't even close :)06:25
scottDanar: not plugged in06:25
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naliothnarch: sig marillat and backports are bad. and left in your sources.list can break your system06:25
mneLinuxJones, thats the same on my other boxes, Xorg uses 40MB Ram there as well. just this box I'm currently sitting at has this problem. So till later ;)06:25
DanarLinuxJones, you typed just before he did06:25
scottDanar: you think if I mute the mic that will get rid of it?06:25
narchnalioth: i agree, but if someone wants dvdstyler, what choice do they have?06:25
LinuxJonesDanar, :)06:25
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scottDanar, or were you thinking feedback? it's not that loud of the screach06:26
Danarscott, not if it's not plugged in. screeches are normally caused by feedback from the mic06:26
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Danarah06:26
scottthis is a screach from the software06:26
naliothnarch: dvdwhat?06:26
scottI think anyway06:26
Danarhrm06:26
narchnalioth, sure, you could download just the .deb files you need, but then it becomes a headache if there are dependancies, and iirc, dvdstyler has quite a few06:26
Danarnever had a screech from software before06:26
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narchnalioth, its a dvd authoring package, takes xml files and vob files and produces the VIDEO_TS directory contents for a DVD06:27
naliothnarch: i have seen a lot of peeps in here using bp and marillat with unupgradable systems06:27
naliothnarch: better to figure another way06:27
FirstLiteDanar: Umm ... I'm not really sure what you might do at this point.  I'm no udev expert.  But you might want to back up your partition table ASAP.  You can use cfdisk, press "p" to print the table, and copy down the stuff on the screen.  This might help you restore if your partition table gets corrupted.  If it's _already_ corrupted, then I have heard of "partition guessing" software called "gpart" ...06:28
DanarFirstLite, thx... :(06:28
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Recyclablelo06:28
Recyclablei am having a problem with installing nexuiz06:29
bhname too06:29
narchi don't suppose anyone here now knows their way around hotplug ?06:30
DanarFirstLite, um... cfdisk doesn't show hdb at all!06:30
scottis there a way to have gnome place windows in a better position? like use real estate as efficiently as possible?06:30
Danari am so screwed06:30
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Recyclableanyone else having problems with nexuiz?06:31
wbastienbhna said yes06:31
unrealLinuxJones: did you see what I said or? :)06:31
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Recyclableanyone know how i could fix my problem installing nexuiz? :P06:32
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Danaruh oh06:32
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Danari had to kill gparted cause it hung, and now it doesn't show hdb at all06:33
syntheticoceanCan someone help me get my sound working please?06:33
FirstLiteDanar: just to be sure: Did you run "cfdisk /dev/hdb"?06:33
jahi,i have no sound,everything was ok,i have sonud in all programs ,i restart computer and now i don't have sound in all programs,what should i do ? i'm newbie:)06:33
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DanarFirstLite, just cfdisk06:33
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Danarbut gparted doesn't see it either now06:33
_kevinwhat si real player for PPC06:33
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Danarwait06:33
Danarmy bad06:33
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Danargparted sees it06:33
_kevinwhat is PPC06:33
Danarphew!06:33
LinuxJonesunreal, sorry dude I don't have a wireless mouse have you tried google ?06:33
Danarforgot about the drop down list06:34
nalioth_kevin: you run a PPC?06:34
_kevini don't know what is it06:34
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nalioth_kevin: macintosh hardware06:34
unrealLinuxJones: heh, nvm then, google hasn't been much help06:34
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_kevinohh06:34
_kevinno06:34
nalioth_kevin: Power PC processors06:34
LinuxJonesunreal, have you tried re-configuring xorg, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:34
mneLinuxJones, I just tried out vesa, it's still the same. pretty strange06:34
_kevini'm on amd06:34
unrealyup.06:34
_kevinso no ppc06:34
LinuxJonesmne, argh that sucks :(06:34
arnonymi've built a 2.6.12 kernel with make-kpkg and now i have the problem that all IDE drivers are loaded permanently and i can't mount local filesystems other than root06:34
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LinuxJonesmne, did you re-boot ?06:35
nalioth_kevin: you are just as screwed06:35
lcoreHowto bind actions to mouse clicks? Is there a way to use mouse gestures in gnome (2.10.0)?06:35
mneLinuxJones, yes, I did that too06:35
DanarFirstLite, k, shows in cfdisk too with 'cfdisk /dev/hdb'06:35
enrikewho am i ?06:35
_kevinwhy you say that Nalioth?06:35
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nalioth_kevin: amd64 and ppc arches are missing lots of nice binarys (like win32 codecs, realplayer, etc)06:35
ZuninoTo whomever was helping me previously: the "keyboard layout list has become empty" issue has been solved.06:35
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Danarthought i lost everything for a second there...06:35
Heimdallcan I see the .bashrc-like files when I do a 'ls' ?06:35
_kevinwho sid I'm on amd 6406:35
rc51woodyok i went throught the entire directions on adding java to firefox06:35
rc51woodyand it still doesnt work06:35
FirstLiteDanar: ok, cool, try to copy the partition table.06:35
_kevinI'm on Amd Athlon THunderbird06:35
naliothkevin WHAT exactly are you using?06:36
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FirstLiteDanar: And quit WITHOUT saving06:36
ZuninoIt turns out I did have a backup and it seems things got fixed after I put back the files in /etc/X11 and restarted KDM.06:36
ZuninoThanks.06:36
nalioth_kevin: and what arch are you using?06:36
jaanyone can help me ? please06:36
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_kevinx86 I'm guessing06:36
ZuninoNow... The only nagging thing is the cedilla () issue.06:36
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DanarFirstLite, oy, copy to where?06:36
Danarno point saving to the hard drive. no way i'm writing all that out.06:36
syntheticoceanCan someone help me get my sound working please? I have an Audigy 2 ZS, and no sound.06:36
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CarlKanyone have a wi-fi detection app recomendation?06:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYwow computer froze hard core >.<06:37
Danarwait, i know06:37
ivanoxCarlK, Kismet06:37
iKsthello...does anyone have expirience with ubuntu on slow machines ? i want to run it on P233 with 64mb of ram, will i be able to run gnome, openoffice and firefox ?06:37
mneLinuxJones, it there another way to have a look at which processes use how much memory ? I use top06:37
CarlKivanox - thanks06:37
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FirstLiteDanar: umm ... I though it would be only a couple lines.  Yeah, DON'T save to the hdd.06:37
nalioth_kevin: then you shouldnt have any trouble follwoing the ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ instructions for real, win32 codecs, etc06:37
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ChurcH_of_FoamYmne yes it will ^_^06:37
_kevinok06:37
CarlKiKst - I run it on exactly that - iw "will" run, but not fast06:37
_kevini was just wondering what PPC was06:38
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ChurcH_of_FoamYjust installed ubuntu on a machene with simalr specs yesterday06:38
CarlKiKst - wait... I have 96meg06:38
mneChurcH_of_FoamY, huh ?06:38
rc51woodySeveas: I need help on the java06:38
CarlKiKst - 64 is going to hurt06:38
zythiKst, I recommend XFce, Firefox, and Abiword, etc...06:38
LinuxJonesmne, ps -aux but I think top uses that neways06:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYmne sorry wrong person06:38
mneChurcH_of_FoamY, np06:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYgot the name wrong lol06:38
syntheticoceanCan anyone here help me figure out why my sound isn't working please?06:38
zythiKst, you might look into a distro for low end systems like vectorlinux.  It's designed for older boxes.06:38
DanarFirstLite, well, there's 4 partitions, and a line looks like this:06:39
Danar4  0x00  254   63 1023 0x83  254   63 1023   296511705   15223194006:39
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Andlinux21anyone using rxvt? if so how do you get transparent windows06:39
iKsttnx06:39
mneLinuxJones, unfortunaely ps -aux shown me the percentage of memory a process uses only. not the actual size in mb06:39
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zythmne: try 'top'06:40
CarlKiKst - you can use Ubuntu, just don't load up everything.  do a "server" install, then add X, a "light" WM, firefox, and OO06:40
naliothrc51woody: what is the problem?06:40
capiin RFC 1178 it says to avoid using single tokens for your computer network. Does this mean name the computers something.blah ? I'm a little confused, as that sounds like it may cause more problems.06:40
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mneLinuxJones, so anyway, thanks for helping, I have to get back to work. At least I know now that the problem isn't the nvidia driver module.06:40
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rc51woodywent through the steps06:40
rc51woodyand still nothing06:40
FirstLiteDanar: OK, that looks right.  Maybe you can ssh somewhere else and cut 'n paste into a file on that machine?06:40
ZuninoSorry for the naive question, but how do you send a "directed" message to someone here on the chat window. I mean, some people reply to questions in a way that it is easy for me to spot the response, as it comes out red and begins with my name. Is there any special syntax for it?06:40
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zythsyntheticocean, have you made sure that your volume isn't just muted?06:40
mnezyth, hehe, i actually wanted to know if there's a 'top' alternative ;) but thanks06:41
zythmne: oh ok :)06:41
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DanarFirstLite, got it saved somewhere...06:41
capiZunino, its just your IRC program tracking all the messages with your name, you can set it up to highlight certain keywords.06:41
CarlKZunino - i think you just ... yeah, that06:41
Danaronline06:41
zythZunino, that's xchat being nice.  Type the first few characters of their nick (like, say Zun and then hit tab, it'll autocomplete, etc)06:42
ZuninoCool guys06:42
CarlKZunino - type the first few chars of a nick (like Zun) and hit Tab06:42
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ZuninoThanks. It is indeed a nice feature.06:42
naliothrc51woody: the instructions on the java wiki page work well06:42
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ZuninoCarlK, very cool!06:42
ZuninoThanks!06:42
rc51woodycan you give me the link again06:42
flodinehow do i uninstall kubuntu06:42
rc51woodyi will go through them again06:42
DanarFirstLite, so... what now?06:42
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naliothrc51woody: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingJavaSupport06:43
syntheticoceanzyth, Yes, I made sure the sound isn't muted.06:43
flodinelittle help06:43
naliothrc51woody: what kind of cpu do you have?06:43
flodineuninstalling kubuntu06:43
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rc51woodypentium06:43
rc51woody1.6 ghz06:43
rc51woody1.506:43
rc51woodyi mean06:43
Danaroh, anyone know why ubuntu doesn't detect the logitech mx500 properly?06:43
Danarit thinks it only has 5 buttons06:43
zythsyntheticocean, is it detected if you run lspci?06:43
rc51woodyon that java support page06:44
Danar(mouse)06:44
rc51woodyi had to change each of the file names06:44
rc51woodycuz there is a new version06:44
rc51woody0306:44
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syntheticoceanzyth, 0000:02:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)06:44
naliothrc51woody: thats fine, as long as the general inst are followed, the version matters not06:44
rc51woodyi went through the entire process06:44
rc51woodyill do it again06:45
zythsyntheticocean, and do you also have onboard sound by chance?06:45
syntheticoceanyes06:45
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zythDanar, http://www.glaurung.demon.co.uk/info/linux.mx500.howto.html06:45
ZuninoCould anyone point me to resources that would help programmers new to hacking Linux on how the cycle works? More specifically, I intend to modify the algorithm used by the window manager to choose windows' placement. Personally, I dislike the one used by default, in spite of it being called "smart placement".06:45
zythgoogle's first result.06:45
zythsyntheticocean, disable the onboard sound in your bios06:45
syntheticoceanIn Bios?06:45
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zythyep06:46
ZuninoI wanted to know how, after modifying the source I could get that change to take effect on my system.06:46
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sktrdiedo u guys know where the ubuntu ass picture is?06:46
sktrdiei cant find it anymore06:46
syntheticoceanGive me a sec, I'll do that zyth06:46
mdipiHey all, does anyone have any experience with PPC ubuntu?06:46
zythsyntheticocean, k06:46
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Danarzyth, yeah, i know about that, but it's been around for a while now, and ought to be done automatically by now06:46
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HappyFoolZunino: you'd probably have to hack either gnome or metacity source (not sure which)06:46
ZuninoThat would be Metacity, for Gnome.06:47
zythDanar, ahh.  Probably depends if anyone who writes the software has one ;)06:47
Danarubuntu detects my hardware better than debian though06:47
sktrdiemdipi: i have a ppc computer, but not with ubuntu.. what do u need?06:47
Andlinux21Danar I agree06:47
Danarzyth, it's the best mouse, they should :p06:47
HappyFoolZunino: i'm not sure what the 'correct' ubuntu/debian procedure is; you could start by trying to download the sources for metacity using apt-get source06:47
ZuninoHappyFool, the funny thing is that I am now running on KDE and the positioning scheme seems to be the same as Metacity.06:47
rc51woodyin those directions06:47
zythsktrdie, the install cd I think.06:47
rc51woodyfor installing java support06:47
naliothmdipi: i have a couple PPC ubuntu boxen06:47
ZuninoHappyFool, Does KDE use metacity as well?06:47
zythoh06:48
rc51woodythere might be an error06:48
zythI misread ;)06:48
SeveasZunino, no06:48
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HappyFoolZunino: ah, well, in that case you'll want to hack kde source. i don't use kubuntu, don't know what window manager06:48
rc51woodysudo mv jre1.5.0_02/ /usr/java/06:48
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HappyFoolZunino: sorry, don't know06:48
mdipiSktrdie: well I'd like to install Ubuntu on my ext. FW, can i do this without nuking the whole thing?06:48
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Danarwb FirstLite06:48
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sktrdiemdipi... well there should be the option in the ubuntu installation06:48
FirstLiteDanar: Sorry, I got dropped.  Did I miss anything?06:48
Wimpieabout ubutuguide.org : apt-get install w32codecs is missing.  Different repository ?06:48
HappyFoolZunino: anyway, find out what window manager ;) and probably use apt-get source and 'apt-get build-dep', hack away, build and install06:48
mdipiSktrdie: There is for partitioning, but it wants to blow the whole thing away :-/06:49
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zythWimpie, I think it's in hoary-extras06:49
DanarFirstLite, i asked what next...06:49
zyth!w32codecs06:49
ubotuI heard w32codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats or http://ubuntuguide.org06:49
naliothmdipi: i don't think ubuntu supports installing to ext devices, yet. i tried and it hung on reboot (couldnt find the base isntall)06:49
sktrdiemdipi: do u want to partition the FW?06:49
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HappyFoolZunino: it may be that the window manager is scriptable, or customizable, in a way that makes it not necessary to hack C/C++ source, but I don't know06:49
ZuninoWill building require me to rebuild the whole thing or does it just work as any regular modular build process, where only the changed parts wil be built and then linked together?06:49
mdipiYeah, I think it'd just be easier for me to nuke my internal drive and go from that06:49
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mdipithanks for the help guys06:49
Danar!gparted06:49
ubotuDanar: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about06:49
ZuninoHappyFool, interesting. That is possible indeed.06:49
Danar:(06:50
sktrdiedo u guys have the ubuntu asses picture06:50
HappyFoolZunino: i imagine you'll need to build just the window manager. Seveas, do you know what wm kubuntu uses?06:50
Danar!parted06:50
zythZunino, you're probably best off to ask that in #gnome or whatever WM channel, they'll likely know more06:50
ubotuDanar: Are you smoking crack?06:50
sktrdieof the 3 asses touching eachother :P06:50
ZuninoHappyFool, I guess I will have a look at KDE's development site.06:50
Seveassktrdie, search the sounder@lists.ubuntu.com archive06:50
HappyFoolZunino: maybe ask in #kubuntu06:50
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zythok #KDE06:50
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zyths/ok/or06:50
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ZuninoHappyFool, unfortunatelly, #kubuntu is way less busy than here and the likelihood of getting responses ditto.06:51
scott_zyth, no luck. I disabled onboard sound and the audigy still isn't working.06:51
HappyFoolZunino: ok, just a suggestion ;)06:51
XandriXi think it stalled at un[acking postfix ...06:51
ZuninoHappyFool, thank you very much!06:51
ZuninoHappyFool, I will go now. But thanks for your and the other guys' help.06:51
ZuninoCheers, everyone!06:51
AmaranthZunino: Sure, but I bet most people here don't know anything about KDE. :)06:52
HappyFoolgood luck06:52
zythscott_, hm, odd.06:52
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scott_The 'hum' that I get right now did cut out for longer, like it was going to work though.06:52
zythscott_, card model again please?06:52
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XandriXum why is it stalling at unpacking postfix06:52
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Demian___does anyone know how you can make ubuntu see your digital camera?06:53
naliothrc51woody: why do you say the mv command is not right?06:53
Demian___at first he did06:53
dacrepaircan someone point me in the direction of a good c compiler06:53
HappyFooldacrepair: gcc06:53
Demian___en then suddenly it didn't06:53
Amaranthdacrepair: gcc06:53
Danarubuntu is male? :p06:53
HappyFooldacrepair: install the 'build-essential' package06:53
dacrepairthank you06:53
sktrdieSeveas: hu?06:53
scott_zyth, audigy 2 zs platinum06:53
HappyFoolXandriX: you are installing from CD?06:54
XandriXHappyFool, yeah well its the pc itsself that frose06:54
XandriXlol old dumb machine that p2 400 with 320 mb o ram is06:54
Seveassktrdie, I assume you referred to the picture of 3 women forming a sort-of Ubuntu logo with their asses. A url to this picture was posted on the sounder@lists.ubuntu.com mailing list06:54
Danarsktrdie, hoo?06:54
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XandriXHappyFool, ugg cat got at the power cord ...06:55
XandriXdamnit06:55
HappyFoolXandriX: feline extermination is not yet supported by ubuntu install06:55
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Seveasrofl :)06:55
sktrdieSeveas: do u have the link?06:55
XandriXHappyFool, when will it be lol06:56
djpis the following really necessary under hoary? http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly06:56
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HappyFoolXandriX: anyway, assuming your hardware is OK, it could be that your CD is bad06:56
FirstLiteDanar: OK ... Well, I doubt your part table got corrupted, but it never hurts to back it up.  I'm not sure what next, though ... you might try a) shrinking the fat32 part by a smaller amount (this might help because gparted can probably cut off any part that's not being used for data) b) rebooting in case something got messed up c) installing Ubuntu to another partition and resizing stuff once you get it installed.  Sorry I can't help more :(06:56
unrealquick question, why would a bunch of modules be 'blacklisted'?06:56
Seveassktrdie, http://www.alobbs.com/images/3ubuntu.jpg06:56
zythwhat's the gnome equivalent of kmix?06:57
XandriXHappyFool, assuming it might be old ram tripping out to but well for hte moment everything is aok exept my cat wont be later06:57
Seveaszyth, gnome-volume-control perhaps...06:57
wouterli have a problem with ethernet. when i preform 'ifconfig eth0", ifconfig replys that the device doesn't exist... it's probably a hardware problem so my question is: a pentium 120mhz, does it use PCI 2.1 ?06:57
sktrdieSeveas: awsome...06:57
zythscott_, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18713&highlight=audigy+zs06:57
DanarFirstLite, C) is a ways away. i already have 4 partitions, so can't make another. it won't let me make an extended one for some reason, and i'm working on having space for an ubuntu partition now....06:57
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Danarunreal, maybe they were conflicting with something06:58
scott_I can't ever get into ubuntuforums.06:58
Anon3217what is the minimum ram needed for Ubuntu?06:58
zythscott_, just click that link06:58
Anon3217does anyone know?06:59
dantheman6432MB06:59
djpAnon3217: 64mb should see you ok06:59
dantheman64as in the docs06:59
unrealDanar: how would I find out if that was happening?06:59
dantheman64but obviously that's gonna be REAL slow06:59
FirstLiteDanar: To make extended partitions, you need to give up your fourth "primary" one.  If gparted is working OK now, try deleting hda4 (if it's expendable) before making extended parts.06:59
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Anon3217would 128mb be enough for it to run wo/ problems?06:59
djpAnon3217: 32mb is also feasable06:59
wouterlsure Anon321706:59
rc51woodywhats the command for delete?07:00
Echylorm07:00
Anon3217and, will Ubuntu dual boot w/ Win XP Home?07:00
FirstLiteDanar: To clarify, there's a max of 4 "primary" partitions, and the extended ones live in the fourth primary one.07:00
Danarunreal, i don't really know enough to help you there, but i had to blacklist modules before due to conflicts. that's why i mentioned it07:00
SeveasAnon3217, yes07:00
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wouterlAnon3217: yes07:00
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DanarFirstLite, none of them are expendable yet, that's why i need to resize them07:00
Anon3217will the dual boot hurt the Win system?07:00
SeveasAnon3217, about the specs: if your system runs winxp, it can run ubuntu too07:00
SeveasAnon3217, it eill not hurt07:00
scott_zyth, no luck.07:00
DanarFirstLite, it won't let me resize it by even a little bit07:00
djpis the following really necessary under hoary? http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly07:01
Seveasmaybe it will hurt Bill Gates' pride :)07:01
scott_zyth,  can't get onto that page. EIther here or any other computers on the network.07:01
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Seveasdjp, ubuntuguides is quite bad...07:01
HeimdallHappyFool : oh you're back :)07:01
masahiroI am fed up of NO SOUND!!!! ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!107:01
wouterlAnon3217 if you have windows 2000, windows 2000 will boot slower because he can't recognize the linux partition, that problem is fixed in xp07:01
HappyFoolhey07:01
HeimdallHappyFool : don't worry I have no questions :) :-p07:01
Seveasdjp, and that is absolutely NOT neccessary07:01
HappyFoolbusy ;)07:01
DanarFirstLite, i want to get rid of my fat32 partition by putting the data on hdb4. i already moved as much as i could to hdb4, and now i need to shrink hdb1 in order to enlarge hdb4 to fit more07:02
unrealDanar: is there a file listing all the blacklisted modules?07:02
scott_masahiro, I'm having the same problem. SB Audigy 2 ZS Platinum.07:02
Heimdallhehe07:02
Andlinux21maswan: you on a lappy?07:02
narchbah!07:02
masahiroscott_ I am onboard.07:02
scott_masahiro, nothing but a soothing hum from the speakers.07:02
djpSeveas: sure. that's what i was thinking... i couldn't understand why it was necessary. ok. thanks for the response.07:02
scott_ahh07:02
narchthought i had my IPv6 tunnel coming up properly, but no, not quite :/07:02
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Andlinux21masahiro: you on a laptop07:02
scott_I don't want to revert back to windows, but there are a number of issues with this that are pissing me off.07:02
Anon3217what about drivers. what if my hardware doesn't have linux drivers. what can i do about that?07:03
Danarunreal, yeah...07:03
djpAnon3217: why not try out the livecd first07:03
zythscott, you see the nice little speaker icon up next to your clock?07:03
scott_No sound, 3 monitor multihead setup not working, network not working, loss of Photoshop07:03
scott_Yep07:03
wouterlAnon3217: most drivers are supported, i wouldn't worry about that ...07:03
maeAnon3217: write your own drivers by reverse engineering :)07:03
Anon3217i have. i am currently emulating it on vmware and i like it07:03
masahiroon a pc07:03
masahiroits onboard07:03
flodineis there a command to uninstall kubuntu07:03
Danarunreal, in /etc/modules or something07:03
Anon3217mae: who do you make your own drivers?07:04
pinoyphpubuntu-ph?07:04
Wimpiemplayer-586 is not in repository ?07:04
DanarWimpie, it is..07:04
zythscott_, ok, so right click the speaker icon07:04
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Danartry universe07:04
Seinnurahelo07:04
scott_zyth, the problem is, that the speakers are giving me the hum that I get when the pc is shut off .With windows I had the problem, but it went away when the drivers were loaded.07:04
Danaror multiverse07:04
narchdanar, multiverse, i think07:04
scott_zyth, ok07:04
Seinnuraany idea why i can't access dos floppy with long filename?07:04
zythscott_, select 'open volume control'07:04
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Anon3217hwo do you make your own drivers?07:04
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scott_zyth, ok07:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow to install a tar.gz file?07:05
narchaltho i've never gotten AC3 playback working with the mplayer in multiverse :/07:05
DanarAnon3217, very carefully :p07:05
zythscott_, what's the window say at the top (mine says 'Soundblaster LIVE! Alsa)07:05
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: you don't. you expand that file07:05
narchaltho it may well be an alsa config issue07:05
Seinnuraanyway i've force it with -t vfat07:05
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scott_zyth, Sound Blaster Audigy2(Alsa Mixer)07:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok07:05
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ChurcH_of_FoamYso it's like a .zip file?07:05
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DanarChurcH_of_FoamY, .tar.gz is a compressed/zipped file07:05
Anon3217danar: ha ha. what about hardware that doesn't have linux drivers for it?07:05
green-okay.. had some good breakfast.. now back to DVD playing.. anyone doing this successfully under ubuntu/linux in general?07:05
masahiroi dont get any sound at all07:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYok cool07:06
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narchgreen, using xine, yes07:06
zythscott_, ok, and on playback and capture, all the volumes are set to non-mute levels?07:06
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u19809danar : is thdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras main universe multiverse07:06
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u19809restricted07:06
u19809is repo not ok ?07:06
DanarAnon3217, first you'd have to learn programming. drivers require low level programming and is for more advanced programmers...07:06
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: tar.gz, tar.bz2, tbz, tgz, zip, rar, ace, amd more i'm sure i'm missing are compressed files07:06
scorpixwhat i need to install to see quicktime movies in firefox?07:06
rc51woodynalioth: i swear i went through the java directions 3 times07:06
green-narch: available via apt?07:06
rc51woodyand still its not working07:06
narchgreen, i even do DVD editing under ubuntu (actually, kubuntu)07:06
Anon3217danar: i can't program though07:06
Seveasscorpix: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats07:06
FirstLiteDanar: OK.  If you put everything back on hdb1, then delete hdb4 and make it "extended" (hdb5), you'll be able to make more extended partitions.  I don't see how you're going to be able to shrink hdb1, though ... I assume it's the biggest partition?  Any free space on hda/hdc?07:06
xryhow do i add screenresolutions? I added three when installing, i need bigger ones..07:06
scott_zyth, yes, everything is full volume and there were a few mute icons a while ago but I unchecked em before joining irc.07:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYok thats a great explanation07:06
narchgreen, yeah, via apt07:06
Danaru19809, that doesn't look official...07:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYthanx you07:07
Seveasxry: GNULinuxer: To find out ho you can change your display's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:07
masahiroANYBODY WANNA help a really fustrated noob?07:07
green-narch: i prefer gnome over kde, is there anything that the kde env offers that gnome doesn't that's significant?07:07
naliothrc51woody: i've installed several machines using them, and not had a problem.07:07
Seveasmasahiro, why don't you try the mailing list?07:07
zythscott_, we'll go for the overkill, select edit, preferences, and check the rest of the 'tracks to be visible'07:07
u19809danar : it is on the wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats page ?07:07
DanarAnon3217, even if you could i wouldn't recommend you making drivers unless you know what you're doing. and even if you could, it's not something that would happen over night07:07
scott_zyth, ok, give me a mnute07:07
rc51woodynalioth: would you have  a few minutes to trouble shoot mine?07:07
masahiroseveas: mailing list?07:07
Seveasmasahiro, ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com07:07
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Anon3217danar: so what do i do? i want to use ubuntu but I cant find drivers.07:08
masahirowhat do i do? email them?07:08
SeveasAnon3217, which pieco of hardware>07:08
masahiroive posted n the forums07:08
Danaru19809, well i guess it's not in there. it's in the official one though. use synaptic, and go to add repository > custom, and check multiverse07:08
Seveasmasahiro, subscribe to that list at lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo and mail your question to that list07:08
u19809has synaptic a KDE version ?07:08
Seveasthe smart people aren't in the forums, they're on the list07:08
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Anon3217an ATI Radeon 9800PRO Agp, a Creative Audigy 2 Z5 Platinum, and an external sony cd07:09
masahirowell ive posted in the forum07:09
narchgreen, i just prefer KDE, personal preferance :)07:09
Seveasu19809, there's kpackagemanager and kynaptic07:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow to force ubuntu to clean it's self up?07:09
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, clean up?07:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea after so many boots it automaticly cleans it's self up07:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYi think the default is 33 boots07:10
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HappyFoolmaybe he means fsck07:10
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, ah fsck you mean07:10
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, that's no cleanup07:10
Anon3217seveas: an ATI Radeon 9800PRO Agp, a Creative Audigy 2 Z5 Platinum, and an external sony cd07:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYfsck?07:10
Seveasjust a sanity check07:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok07:10
DanarFirstLite, hda is a hard drive i haven't touched in months because it has a corrupt partition table, with data on it i'd like to recover some day. hdb1 is about 2x the size of hdb407:10
Seveasfor the ati: there's a driver in linux-restricted-modules07:10
DanarFirstLite, hdc is the cd/dvd drive07:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYi thought it went through and removed al the crap ya don't need lol07:10
masahiroim going to reformat and install windows soon and forget about linsux07:10
Seveasfor the audigy: search the forum07:10
Seveasfor the sony: no idea, ask on the mailing list07:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYHEY LINUX ROCKS!!!07:11
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masahiroif you dont like sound then it does07:11
Danaru19809, yeah07:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut go ahead if ya like viruses, spyware, adaware07:11
masahirobut if your pc is your tv, stereo, and the like, it sux07:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYworms, trojans07:11
Seveasmasahiro, stop annoying people...07:11
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ChurcH_of_FoamYno you jst have to teach it to do what ya want07:11
masahirodont forget the numerous problems and security holes07:11
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HappyFoolmasahiro: that is a perfectly valid thing to do if you do not have time to resolve your sound issues07:12
masahirowell it dosent want to do what i want it to do07:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYin linux yea right07:12
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ChurcH_of_FoamYand yu have to make it do what you want07:12
djpis anyone aware of a way to configure printer output settings like page width, length etc, using the default setup under hoary?07:12
Seveasmasahiro, please cool down a bit, ask your sound question at the mailing list and return then...07:12
Seveasdjp, system->administration->printing07:13
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi thought linux at first was a waste of time07:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYand then i got to know it07:13
narchdjp, isn't that going to be a case of configuring CUPS ?07:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i woulden't trade it for the world07:13
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^07:13
djpSeveas: thanks07:13
narchchurch, i wont detail my history with linux, except to say its been a rollercoaster :P07:13
XandriXum should i put it in ext3 or reiserfs ?07:13
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Danarlinux has many advantages over other OSes, but it does have a few disadvantages as well. mainly difficulties for new users07:13
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naliothnarch: you know it's been nothing but fun07:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYi bet07:14
Anon3217for the ubuntu shipit, do you get just an install cd or both live and install cd?07:14
HappyFoolXandriX: i'd stick with the default, ext307:14
narchthe most humourous part of my linux history, was how i got started07:14
aaronnarch: i think everyone's first encounter with *nix has been a rollercoaster :)07:14
SeveasAnon3217, both07:14
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daniel^many difficulties for addicted gamers07:14
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narchi was about to buy BSD07:14
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ChurcH_of_FoamYyea it is dificult to use at first but if you stick with it it becomes easyer07:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYafter a while07:14
narchand the guy running the company told me 'try linux first, BSD is a bit pricey for a student'07:14
abbot45how do i check what my network IP is?07:14
XandriXHappyFool, im useto reiser in slack but ill go wiht what you say cuz reiser trips out on that machine lol07:14
Danari'm on the livecd now, which i didn't know i was gonna get :p07:14
djpnarch: possibly... under ubuntu everything is very much print and go. i only want to tweak things slightly. i had an awful experience using debian 3.1 with printing setup. there were other issues mind  but i won't bother going into them here...07:14
khermansMy GDM theme is broken, and I cannot log in -- how do i change back to default Human theme?07:14
netoolHi, I am having a little problem : I have installed Ubuntu and it works fine, execpt the sound. The only sound it produces is the bleeps at startup.07:14
naliothAnon3217: you get a really nicely pkgd install and live cd07:14
Seveasabbot45, ifconfig07:14
narchthis was when linux was at v0.1307:14
scott_zyth, everything checked, unmuted, and cranked up. No change in sound.07:14
abbot45Seveas, thanks07:14
Danarabbot45, for your external ip, try www.whatismyip.com07:15
zythscott_, ok, go to System, Preferences, Sound07:15
aaronkhermans: how is your gdm broken?07:15
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Danarfor your internal ip, what Seveas said07:15
narchback then, a 'typical linux distro' was 2 floppies :P07:15
ChurcH_of_FoamY<---gonna buy an aleinware pc with ubuntu on it ^_^07:15
FirstLiteDanar: OK.  To further complicate things, the parted documentation (http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_mono/parted.html  see "2.4.13 resize") says that parted doesn't need to defrag a fat32 partition to resize it.  (NTFS does need defragging, IIRC.)  So I don't know why resizing hdb1 doesn't work ...07:15
khermansaaron: it will not allow me to input my user and pass07:15
u19809danar : just reinstalled synaptic (kynaptic is no as functional)07:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYseems they offer that distro now07:15
zythscott_, er sorry 'Multimedia Systems Selector'07:15
u19809danar : but cannot find add repo-> multiverse07:15
abbot45Danar, i already have that one.07:15
Danaru19809, synaptic works in kde too07:15
aaroncan you get to a terminal?07:15
khermansaaron: i tried to change to the Bluecurve theme -- but the files are not really there07:15
Danarabbot45, now you know how to get both07:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYbrb07:16
abbot45Danar, thanks07:16
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scott_zyth, ok, both are on ESD07:16
u19809danar : I have installed it but still cannot find the add ->07:16
DanarFirstLite, strange.. :(07:16
zythscott_, change em both to ALSA07:16
zythscott_, then hit test07:16
scott_zyth, no test sound on either07:16
zythweirddd...07:17
aaronkhermans: try apt-get --reinstall install gdm07:17
Danaru19809, Settings > repositories > add > custom07:17
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aaronwith sudo of course07:17
netoolSo how can I get sound to work? I can't access volume control either: It gives me the error: No volume control elements and/or devices found.07:17
zythscott_, I am somewhat stumped :/  The card is obviously detected and present.07:17
scott_zyth, yeah. I never had issues with any other distros07:17
u19809danar : donno what version you have but my synaptic has no repositories->add.07:18
zythscott_, you made sure line out is plugged into the right jack, yes? May sound silly, but it could cause problems, but be corrected in software.07:18
RobNyc-aWayHAPPY FATHERS DAY TO ALL DADDYS LOL ...07:18
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u19809danar : only repo-> new but that has no custom ???07:18
hondjeRobNyc-aWay: thanks, man07:18
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netoolSo how can I get sound to work? I can't access volume control either: It gives me the error: No volume control elements and/or devices found.07:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYi do think that the other companys should make there free programs availible in source for linux07:18
Danarno custom07:18
green-narch: tried to run gxine and got an X error... (insufficient resources for operation).. any idea what might cause this?07:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYi mean there free anyway right?07:18
scott_zyth, it is. I haven't changed anything since I went from windows to linux except the OS07:18
Danaru19809, forget 'custom' just check multiverse at that point07:18
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zythscott_, hm k.07:18
Danarthen you reload the package info and it should be listed07:18
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kcburyshakeri have a question    i downloaded celestia from synaptic.....and now i cant find it in any menu   how do i run it07:19
narchgreen, no idea, unless your X driver doesn't have xv or something07:19
zythscott_, try giving it a reboot, see if alsa says anything on boot.07:19
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XandriXHappyFool, so far no freeze07:19
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scott_ok07:19
XandriXgonna go watch tv07:19
u19809danar : I have no 'checkable' anything.  Just an edit field with section07:19
khermansaaron: that did not work -- the Bluecurve theme is stil set07:19
netoolAnybody :)07:19
khermansaaron: what file is GDM theme changes updating?07:19
u19809should I type in multiverse there ? and for which URI ? all ?07:19
Danaru19809, you're in custom, aren't you? :p07:19
green-probably should upgrade to a newer driver.. this is the stock nv driver07:19
u19809danar : either I am blind but settings->repository has not 'custom'anything07:20
Seveasgreen-: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto07:20
Danaru19809, click settings menu, click repositories, click 'add' button, check 'multiverse'07:20
green-is it effective to apt-get the nvidia drivers, or better to manually install?07:20
Seveasu19809, are you on hoary or warty?07:20
u19809danas : hoary07:20
narchyeah, i'd suggest using the nvidia driver, unless you're a die-hard 'NO polluting my kernel' user, in which case, live without video playback :P07:20
u19809seveas : hoary07:20
Seveasgreen-, read the page at the url i typed :)07:20
kangpehtoo long you've wandered in winter07:20
Danaru19809, then click ok07:20
kangpehfar from my far reachin gaze07:20
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green-heh doing such now, thanks07:21
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aaronkhermans: not sure. so did you install a different display manager then?  i didn't know there was a bluecurve display manager.07:21
u19809my version of synaptic is 0.56 and i have not add button and no checkable custom on the07:21
kangpehYoung green-, you can always create your own .deb ;)07:21
u19809repository dialog07:21
netoolI am going to be completley bald soon!07:21
Seveasu19809, you can also manually edit the sources file using sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:21
Seveasu19809: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3807:22
khermansaaron: there is not07:22
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Danarmine's 0.56 too07:22
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khermansaaron: i installed the Bluecurve theme from an RPM07:22
aaronkhermans: and it broke your gdm?07:22
naliothkhermans: aaron bluecurve rocks07:23
skalle1anyone know how to fix this: (evolution-2.2:22754): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:07:23
skalle1Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.07:23
skalle1es menu class init07:23
aaronkhermans: are you running warty or hoary?07:23
khermansaaron: however, do you think you could change your GDM theme for me, close the window, and then do a "grep -Ri newthemename /etc"07:23
Danarwhat's /dev/mapper/* ?07:23
khermansaaron: hoary07:23
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dacrepairalso is there basic stamp software07:24
HappyFooldacrepair: what is stamp software?07:24
green-narch: is there more i need to do to get DVD to play other than installing gxine? I get the same error w/ gxine I get w/ totem (error reading from DVD)... is it a codec issue?07:24
Echylosoftware with a stamp on it07:24
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Heimdallviva linuuuuuuuuuuuuuux : ftp://mirror.linuxsoft.cz/wallpapers/264/orig00000143.jpg07:24
dacrepairits a language called "basic stamp"07:24
zythgreen-, you need to install libdvdcss07:24
khermansaaron: GDM told me that the Bluecurve theme was messed up. certain files were missing, etc -- and switched to another theme but i cannot log in07:25
dacrepairits used on pic's07:25
narchgreen, you might need libdvdread07:25
naliothgreen-: read what ubotu says07:25
khermansaaron: the input box for user will not allow me to type in it07:25
narchor libdvdcss07:25
nalioth!Restricted07:25
ubotuwell, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:25
HappyFooldacrepair: hmm. is it a proprietary language ?07:25
dacrepairno07:25
DanarHeimdall, estella warren :)07:26
khermansCany anyone tell me what file the GDM theme changes?07:26
dacrepairits used to program PIC's07:26
EchyloHeimdall, that wallpaper looks weird, like her head is put on it07:26
green-hmmm apt says libdvdcss is only available as part of another package.. weird.07:26
HeimdallDanar : actually I don't know her ;)07:26
DanarHeimdall, google her07:26
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aaronkhermans: not exactly sure. bluecurve is a gnome theme, so if you are using the GDM and not KDM, i don't know why it would break your login manager, even with files missing.07:26
Danarthere's better pics of her07:26
green-ah maybe via the hoary extras07:26
HappyFooldacrepair: propietary means non-free, controlled by a company07:26
wouterlif I put a new ethernet card in my pc, will ubuntu create /dev/eth0 automaticly?07:26
khermansI need to reset back to the default human theme!07:26
dacrepairi know07:27
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Danarincluding the unmodified version07:27
HeimdallDanar : I think... no matter :)07:27
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HappyFooldacrepair: anyway, using synaptic's function, i can't find any obvious matches07:27
khermansaaron: could you please just update you GDM theme real quick to let me know hat file it changes?07:27
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khermansaaron: that wil give me an idea07:27
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scott_zyth, nope. Nothing.07:27
sensIf I've just downloaded an Icon pack as a .tar.gz how would I go about installing them?07:27
u19809seveas : thanx ... any explanation on different between uni/multiverse ?07:27
zythscott_, :(07:28
dacrepairHappyFool: do you know what PIC microcontrollers are?07:28
HappyFooldacrepair: what's PIC again? programmable integrated circuit?07:28
Seveassens, art.gnome.org/faq.php07:28
HappyFooldacrepair: i should, but i've forgotten07:28
sensseveas: thanks man07:28
Seveasu19809, www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components07:28
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dacrepairHappyFool:programmable interupt controller07:28
scott_zyth, I even went into the packet manager and got anything alsa related.07:28
DanarHeimdall, here's that pic: http://www.superiorpics.com/estella_warren/images/estella003.jpg07:28
zythscott_, unfortunately, I'm at the end of my knowledge on the subject.  Perhaps someone else might know more :( I'm sorry07:28
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amonkeywhat package do i need to compile something that needs glib?07:28
scott_Well, thanks for trying!07:28
BROKEN_LADDERIS IT normal for the encoding of a dvd to take 16 hours?07:29
selleckussuspend the computer or do I need to load modules for something07:29
BROKEN_LADDERon a p4 3.2ghz with 1gb ram?07:29
dacrepairHappyFool: some yse a system called "basic Stamp" instead of "c"07:29
narchbroken, no07:29
SeveasBROKEN_LADDER, if you didn't install linux-686: yes07:29
dacrepairHappyFool: you may have heard of PBasic07:30
scott_zyth, when the pc is booting up and all the processes are running through, the 'hum' cuts out and sounds like it's going to work when 'Starting Hotplug Subsystems' shows. Then when 'Setting up Alsa' shows the hum comes back.07:30
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BROKEN_LADDERLinux BROKENLADDER 2.6.10-5-686 #1 Tue Jun 7 09:00:32 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux07:30
HappyFooldacrepair: google revealed this: http://www.parallax.com/html_pages/downloads/software/software_basic_stamp.asp07:30
zythscott_, yeah, unfortunately, I couldn't tell you why, I am stumped07:30
wouterlsmall question: if I put a new ethernet card in my pc, will ubuntu create /dev/eth0 automaticly?07:30
HappyFooldacrepair: i'm not sure if any of those are available in ubuntu's repositories; if not, you'll have to download and install from source07:31
Seveaswouterl, yes, or /dev/eth1 if it's the second card..07:31
green-bah, installed libdvdcss2 and still got dvd read error07:31
scott_zyth, oh well. Thanks a lot for trying.07:31
Heimdallhehe Danar07:31
FirstLiteDanar: If 'mount' and 'swapon -s' don't show any active use of hdb, and it still doesn't work, you might try parted on the Knoppix LiveCD or something.  Or getting a tape drive :)  I gotta run, good luck :) ...07:32
zythscott_, np, I hope someone can help you07:32
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DanarFirstLite, thx. later07:32
wouterlSeveas: so if he doesn't do it, it's because he can't recognize it?07:32
jeroen_Is there any general advice on what to do when your Thunderbird profile has gone bad?07:32
Seveaswouterl, most likely07:32
aaronkherman: try this- sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm07:33
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aaronkherman: it doesn't tell you what files are updated.07:33
dacrepairHappyFool:not avalible for Apt-get rop.07:33
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dacrepairHappyFool:*rEp07:34
HappyFooldacrepair: it looks that way07:34
HappyFooldacrepair: i see there is some microchip related software in the repositories07:34
skalle1amonkey, something like libglib1.2-dev07:35
HappyFooldacrepair: picasm, picp and simulpic, for example07:35
dacrepairHappyFool: really, i'll have to look into that07:35
Seveasdacrepair, and gpsim07:35
jeroen_http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnasium07:35
dacrepairHappyFool: what did you search?07:35
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HappyFooldacrepair: i did a search for 'PIC' in 'names and description' (this is using synaptic)07:36
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Seveasdacrepair, apt-cache search pic (shows a hell of a lot irrelevant things too though..)07:36
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HappyFoolyah07:36
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Danarroot@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # swapoff -av07:36
Danarswapoff on /dev/hdb307:36
dacrepairHappyfool: thanks07:36
Danardoes that mean swap is being used?07:36
lukus001I'm trying to install chroot... and i'm at the stage where it's asking for my locales.... which one do i use /find out?07:36
green-okay, this dvd is working, but is slow as piss07:36
scott_zyth, I got it working by plugging into the onboard sound, enabling it in bios, but... isn't that kinda bullshit? Shouldn't I be able to use the Audigy?07:36
HappyFoolDanar: i think it means it not being used anymore ;)07:37
kangpehARRGH07:37
kangpehI can't play .MIDI files07:37
kangpehlolol07:37
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Seveaskangpeh, install timidity then...07:37
DanarHappyFool, but mount output isn't changing07:37
jeroen_Is there any general advice on what to do when your Thunderbird profile has gone bad?07:37
Danarjeroen_, make a new one?07:37
lukus001Can somone help me find out what my 'locales' is07:37
HappyFoolDanar: i don't see swap listed in my mount output, and afaik it's enabled07:38
aaronkhermans: any luck?07:38
Seveaslukus001, in a terminal type: locale07:38
HappyFoolDanar: or so 'free' says, anyway07:38
skalle1is there an ubuntu developers IRC channel?07:38
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adnans#ubuntu-dev ?07:38
Seveasskalle1, ubuntu-devel07:38
lukus001Seveas: thanks once again07:38
green-is hdparm used to turn on dma on a dvd drive?07:38
Seveasgreen-, yes07:38
sensCan anyone help me install cadega, I essentially need a step by step guide as I'm a newb07:38
dacrepairHapyFool: one mor thing, i know how to configure eternet cards but i have airsnort and a prizm card but not installed yet (hardware wise, not physically plugged into pci slot) but i want to know will i need to do any extra config or tell linux that i have a wireless card installed07:39
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Seveashdparm -d1 /dev/your_dvd_drive enables dma07:39
HappyFooldacrepair: sorry, not a clue07:39
Seveasdacrepair, prisms generally install without a glitch07:39
HappyFooldacrepair: no wireless here07:39
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jeroen_Danar, If I do that, how do I convert my mail and settings to the new one?07:39
narchmy orinocos all work without telling the kernel anything, at least, on sane distros, i gave up on slackware because of wlan stuff :P07:40
dacrepairHappyFool: so it will detect my card on startup?07:40
Danarhrm, i'm also getting an error in qtparted. also generic and unspecified07:40
Danar:(07:40
HappyFooldacrepair: um, ask Seveas07:40
HappyFool;)07:40
dacrepairk07:40
Seveasdacrepair, most likely it will07:40
dacrepairk thanks07:40
Danarjeroen_, you'd do better asking in #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org07:40
green-ah much smoother... now, if only i could get sound working :)07:40
dacrepairwell, i'm gonna reboot an install07:40
dacrepairif i need help, i know where to look07:41
Seveasgreen-, sound in what?07:41
dacrepairthank you07:41
HappyFoolgood luck07:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhats a segmentation fault07:41
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SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, that means a program is oopsing07:41
green-saveas: guess my sound isn't setup yet.. haven't tested it yet.. but the DVD is playing w/o sound...07:41
green-man dvd looks pixelated.. i guess that's just because its so much coarser res than the screen07:41
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ChurcH_of_FoamYok because my grapevine program is giving me a segmentation fault07:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYi told it to use the wrong dir07:42
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HappyFoolgreen-: step back from the monitor ;)07:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYand now it crashes07:42
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Danaranyone know if i can defrag a partition if i boot from a win98 setup cd?07:43
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green-happy: yeah :) .. looks pretty damned good.. okay.. now sound and we're all set :) then i just have to get my LEDs working07:43
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Danari doubt it... :/07:43
SeveasDanar, that's not possible, you need to boot into a real windows system07:43
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aaronDanar: no, you can't.  it is a windows utility07:43
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atyanybody here that was able to config wireless on there system?07:43
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Danaraaron, yeah, hence booting from a win98 cd :p07:44
Seveasaty, quite a few people actually :)07:44
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atygreat07:44
aaronDanar: i meant it needs to be installed on a windows partition.07:44
narchi have wireless configured on my laptop, but its a knoppix install, no *ubuntu07:44
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narchs/no/not/07:45
Danaraaron, oh. so i couldn't even run it with wine or anything?07:45
tweakism_wireless works fine under ubuntu for me, w/ an intel centrino using ipw2200 drivers.07:45
atyi was wondering if you had any links to sites with tutorials, i have a netgear wag511, which is an atheros chipset07:45
Danarwhy does linux not have a defrag utility for fat32???07:45
aaronDanar: not that i am aware of.07:45
Seveasaty, atheros should work out of the box07:45
HappyFoolDanar: hmm. could it be that fat32 is not a native linux filesystem? ;)07:45
narchaty, in my case, i just inserted the card and configured WEP in /etc/network/interfaces, and that was it07:45
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atyexcellent07:45
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atythank you very much07:46
jamey3Danar, why don't you convert from FAT32. It's age-old.07:46
green-great.. going to have to build alsa manually. meh.07:46
DanarHappyFool, so? it supports it. (can read/write to it)07:46
narchmy cards are all orinoco tho...07:46
aaronDanar: linux defrags automatially. it isn't something you start up, like in windows.07:46
atywell if it works out the box then it shouldent really be a problem07:46
Danarjamey3, i want to delete it, after removing the data. in order to do so i need to resize it. apparently i can't do so until i defrag it07:46
jamey3aaron, but I doubt it does anything to FAT32 partitions07:46
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jamey3Danar: ah I see. Sorry I don't know07:47
XandriX-is there a stock kernel for pentium 2 in ubuntu07:47
jamey3have you searched for "defrag" in packages07:47
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aaronjamey3: correct. if linux isn't installed on a fat32 partition....07:47
Danaryeah07:47
u19809anybody knows where transcode package is ?07:47
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tweakism_Danar: I'm pretty sure there are linux defrag tools available for fat32.07:47
XandriX-there are i jsut forgot the name07:47
Seveasu19809, not in standard ubuntu repositories07:48
Danartweakism_, i'd appreciate it if you could point one out...07:48
aaronDanar: so is your linux system installed on a fat32 partition, or is it another partition altogether?07:48
Seveashoary-extras on backports has it though..07:48
tweakism_Danar: Looking now.07:48
Danaraaron, on an ext3 partition07:48
hondjeanyone know if a newer version of evolution is in backports?07:48
Seveashondje, there is none07:48
hondjebummer07:48
XandriX-Seveas: um im guessing a stock kerel is available for pentium 2 in ubuntu right ?07:49
Danari'm trying to get rid of this fat32 partition though. but i want to keep the data, so i'm trying to move it to another partition, which is half the size. both are nearly full07:49
aaronDanar: I don't know of any linux defrag utilities personally. i'm sure goolgling around a bit will turn something up07:49
SeveasXandriX, sure07:49
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Seveasuse the standard kernel07:49
Seveaslinux-386 package07:49
XandriX-Seveas: i forgot howto list packages with dpkg07:49
Seveasdpkg -l07:49
jeroen_Danar, Gparted can convert filesystems, do you mean that?07:49
Seveas(for installed packages)07:50
Danarjeroen_, it won't covert it without destroying the data07:50
aaronDanar: mount your fat32 partition in your linux partition and back up the data. then use a linux install cd to format the fat32 as ext307:50
Danaraaron, how do you propose i back up ~200Gb of data? :p07:50
XandriX-Seveas: thankyou and um in worst case i know how to compile my own kernel so ill do so Seveas what about available packages how do you list those ?07:50
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tweakism_use a linux install cd?  you can format the partition right from your running linux system.07:50
u19809seveas : transcode in backports depends on libgcc1 1.4.0.0-7 which is missing ... ?07:50
aaronDanar: very carefully.  :D07:50
XandriX-Danar: dar and kdar07:50
Danarthat's why i need to move it from one partition to another07:50
SeveasXandriX, use synaptic :)07:50
DanarXandriX, ?07:51
Seveasor apt-cache search07:51
swarmI've tried to build last fglrx module from ATI with kernel 2.6.11-1-amd64-k8-smp and it's broken07:51
XandriX-Seveas: thankyou once again07:51
Seveasu19809, that one is in hoary-backports07:51
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XandriX-ubotu: lol nice nicknmae very inspired from this distro am i right ?07:51
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, XandriX-07:51
Danarthis would be simple if i could simply keep resizing the partitions, but it won't let me, and won't even tell me why07:51
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bleh321i am trying to install ubuntu in a Vmware partition and the installation says i have no ahrd drives attached ?07:52
XandriX-ubotu: hehe07:52
ubotuXandriX-: I don't know07:52
u19809seveas : it claims to find only version 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu707:52
tweakism_ubotu: botsnack07:52
ubotuthanks tweakism_ :)07:52
tweakism_yep.07:52
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XandriX-bleh321: hehe bad configuration07:52
bleh321bad configuration in vmware ?07:52
aaronDanar: i think you can only resize partitions that are the same file system, but i'm not 100% sure. :/07:52
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XandriX-yeah did you create an ide harddrive in vmware ?07:52
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Danaraaron, that doesn't make sense.07:53
bleh321no scsi07:53
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XandriX-bleh321: u should have made it ide its not recomended for nothing07:53
Lafitte-what is best choice for movie player in Ubuntu ??07:53
matswas i universal or univers or else what was it I needed to get in the apt-source list?07:53
XandriX-Lafitte-: gmplayer07:54
Lafitte-xine and totem are laggy07:54
Danarprolly xine or mplayer...07:54
Lafitte-XandriX,  ill ge tit now07:54
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Seveasooh, freud loves you Lafitte- :)07:54
SirGirLafitte-, I use VLC07:54
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XandriX-Lafitte-: have fun hehe07:54
DanarLafitte-, there's a section on the xine site about speeding it up if needed07:54
Lafitte-Seveas,  ???07:54
green-any chance anyone else is running Ubuntu on an asus z71v?07:54
SeveasLafitte-, nvm07:54
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Lafitte-Danar,  ok  ill lool07:54
aaronDanar: if you have two filesystems of the same fs (ext3), then resizing is easy.  I don't think you can resize a fat32 fs if the rest of the disk is ext307:54
Lafitte-Seveas,  thats not fair  hehe07:55
bleh321ok , vmware 5 doesnt give me an option to have an ide hard drive07:55
XandriX-bleh321: um yes it does if i can make it and i have latest vmware07:55
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matsdoes anyone know what i need to put in my apt-source list to get the newest packagets?07:55
XandriX-bleh321: its when u creat a virtual machine07:56
Brammemats, see ubuntuguide.org07:56
Danaraaron, i'm trying to shrink hdb1 (fat32) so i can expand hdb4 (ext2) and put more data from hdb1 on it, until i can remove hdb107:56
HappyFoolmats: you can use synaptic to add repositories. no need to edit text files07:56
green-umm.. why is the kernel-source package for 2.4.27 when ubuntu is 2.6.10-5?07:56
Seveasgreen-, because you need linux-source...07:56
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XandriX-green-: some prefer 2.4 for servers and such07:56
matsBramme: thanks ;)07:56
aaronDanar: can you back up your 200GB to a network drive, or FTP?07:57
Seveaskernel-* packages are from debian, on ubuntu they're all called linux-something..07:57
Danaraaron, not a chance07:57
bionicCan anyone tell me why i get no results when it refreshes on this site, http://206.168.146.114/mx/AMAflashresults.html , flash works fine on other items. (this works fine in IE on my brothers laptop too). Thanks.?07:57
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bleh321i just dont see any such option, could you tell me were it is ?  all vmware says is "scsi disks"07:57
Danaraaron, only have one functional computer07:57
XandriX-bionic: what broswer do you use to see it ?07:57
aaronDanar, why do you want to convert the fat32?07:57
green-Seveas: seems like it's still a bit different.. 2.6.10-34.2  instead of -507:57
green-safe to use that 34.2 pkg though?07:58
bionicXandriX, mozilla firefox07:58
Danaraaron, cause it's evil & inefficient, etc.07:58
XandriX-bleh when u make a virtual machine when it comes to create drive its ide not scsi07:58
bionicXandriX, did you get results?07:58
XandriX-bionic: do you ahve hte flash plugin ?07:58
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bionicXandriX, its all blank here, yeah i have the plugin07:58
XandriX-bionic: i cant rly chekc atm07:58
aaronDanar, does it have a windows installation on it?07:58
Seveasgreen-, you're missing out on some clue regarding kernel packages ;)07:58
XandriX-bionic: so you installed the plugin and restarted firefox07:58
Danaraaron, i'm also trying to get it all on the same partition so i can delete it and make a partition to install ubuntu07:58
Danaraaron, nope07:58
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bionicXandriX, yup, it loads flash fine, but i get no tekst where there should be the result list. Rightclick and i get the flash menu and everything07:59
aarondanar, what are you running now?07:59
Brammehow do i make grub to redetect the installed operating systems like it is done while installing ubuntu ?07:59
Danaraaron, the livecd07:59
aarondanar, oh- i see.07:59
XandriX-bionic: odd07:59
bionicyeah :\07:59
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XandriX-poor bionic08:00
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green-saveas: how do you figure?08:00
ivanoxanyone tried Firefox 1.1 ?08:00
Danarit's not out yet08:01
Seveasgreen-, linux-source version numbers aren't equal to linux-image version numbers08:01
Amaranthivanox: You mean Dear Park Alpha 1?08:01
ivanoxwell, I'm talking about the alpha :)08:01
ivanoxAmaranth, yeah08:01
Danarit's for devs08:01
ivanoxok :S08:01
Amaranthyeah, what he said08:01
green-seveas: well, i'm just wondering what linux source the kernel on hoary is based on.. and which linux source i need to install so i can build packages that require it08:01
Danarbut it'll be an improvement :)08:01
XandriX-almost done installing on the p2 started 10 minutes ago08:01
Amaranthnone of your extensions or themes will work with it08:01
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Danarsvg support & all08:02
HappyFoolgreen-: linux-headers-386 is probably what you want08:02
Danarsome might08:02
Seveasgreen-, the 34.2 linux-source package08:02
Amaranthgreen-: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`08:02
HappyFoolgreen-: or -686 or -k708:02
Amaranthmake sure you use backticks08:02
Seveasand yeah, for kernel modules linux-headers-$(uname -r) is enough08:02
Danarextensionsmirr.nl people will tweak 'em & get 'em working08:02
XandriX-Seveas: apt-get -i dev-essentials fore the development essentials right ?08:02
chrissturmxandrix: build-essential08:02
SeveasXandriX, build-essential manpages-dev08:02
XandriX-a pl08:03
XandriX-*ok08:03
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bleh321this is weird Vmware is not giving me an option to use an IDE hard drive, although Windows under Vmware is using ide08:03
dacrepairseveas: ok i installed my wireless card but it was not detected08:04
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XandriX-bleh321: ur not lookign corectly lol if windows is running under ide its czu u have that option when u create a virtual macine and only whenu create one08:04
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bleh321well i can delete the scsi drive and add an ide one after the vmware installation wizard finishes but the wizard adds a scsi drive without asking me when i select "install other linux"08:05
Andlinux21anyone using openbox as their window manager08:05
dacrepairseveas: and its a prizm card08:05
Karloshmm08:05
Karloshmm08:05
Andlinux21Karlos hmm08:06
XandriX-hmm08:06
XandriX-lol08:06
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Andlinux21XandriX how are you08:06
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dacrepairandlinux21:karlos:hmmmm08:06
Andlinux21dacrepair: lol08:06
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dacrepairdoes any one know how to configure a wireless card08:07
bleh321if i select in vmware "install windows" then i get an ide hard drive by default08:07
larsbarshi! new debian convert here... Q: how make the screen stop locking when i close my laptop's lid?08:07
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dacrepairlol08:07
Danarwhy would gparted and qtparted be able to see partitions hdb1-4, but /dev only has /dev/hdb3 (swap) ?08:07
Andlinux21is there a way to switch window managers without having to reboot i am installing xfce4 and want to switch from gnome08:07
XandriX-well not anymore lol08:07
SeveasAndlinux21, just logout...08:08
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Seveasand choose xfce in the login screen08:08
aaronsudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm08:08
Andlinux21Seveas all my current windows will close correct08:08
Seveascorrect08:08
dacrepairDoes anyone know how to configure a wireless card? its a prizm card08:09
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Seveasdacrepair, isn't it detected at all?08:09
Karlosdacrepair, see #kanotix08:09
dacrepairk08:09
Andlinux21dacrepair: nope I had my nephew do it08:09
XandriX-dacrepair: um google08:09
dacrepairi googled already08:09
aarondacrepair, ndiswrapper08:09
XandriX-a ok then sry08:09
dacrepairk08:09
Danarsomething gparted did made partitions hdb1, hdb2 & hdb4 disappear from /dev, but gparted still sees them. what's going on?08:10
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XandriX-uhh stalled at testing network repository ...08:10
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XandriX-ok no it jsut unstalled yay08:11
lsuactiafneris there a util other than iptables to estimate the average number of outgoing syn connections over a period of time?08:11
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lsuactiafnernetstat -s is not very effective for what i want to do08:12
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=== XandriX- hugs his p2 400 with 320 mb o ram lol
rebarAnyone not using X86 here?08:13
=== daniel^ hugs his p2 216 with 128 mb of ram
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lsuactiafnerXandriX- : this is a p166 42mb ram08:13
daniel^hrm, 26008:13
XandriX-Danar: lets start a p2 club08:13
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XandriX-daniel^: sry you lets start a p2 club08:13
daniel^:)08:13
naliothcan anyone recommend a mobo for a dual-AMD64 (with dual-cores) box?08:13
XandriX-nalioth: asus ones08:14
rebarnalioth: look on newegg; lots of reviews for that kind of thing08:14
bleh321one question, can i use one network card under vmware and have it use two diffirent ip adresses assigned by my router, one for ubuntu and one for windows ?  or do i have to make ubuntu wich will be running on vmware access the net through the host computer ?08:14
lsuactiafnerasus rocks08:14
naliothXandriX-: do they use nforce chipsets?08:14
aaronnalioth: ASUS or Microstar08:14
XandriX-nalioth: only08:14
XandriX-lsuactiafner: yeah they do08:14
BrammeWindows XP is on hda5, this is my menu.lst: http://extraball.sunsite.dk/notepad.php?ID=8106 , what's wrong ? i get Error 12 : Wrong device requested ?08:15
lsuactiafnernforce rocks.. nvidia graphics support is outstandin08:15
XandriX-yerah08:15
XandriX-and amd power owns08:15
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HappyFoolBramme: i'm not sure, but i think extended partitions might complicate the numbering08:16
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BrammeHappyFool, how do i solve the problem ?08:16
naliothlsuactiafner: so why am i hearing all this nforce incompatibility whinin in #ubuntu?08:16
HappyFoolBramme: hmm, sorry, looks like i'm wrong08:16
Andlinux21brb I have to logout08:16
SeveasBramme, if you're sure it's on /dev/hda5 then nothing is wrong08:16
Bramme:s08:16
HappyFooli have /dev/hda6 which is (hd0,5) in my menu.lst08:17
SeveasBramme, can you post the output of sudo fdisk -l too08:17
Brammethere must be something wrong, i can't boot :p08:17
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fabiociao08:17
BrammeSeveas, no output08:17
rebarAnyone here running Ubuntu on PPC or AMD64?   I can't make "skyrocket" screensaver work on either.08:17
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HappyFoolsudo fdisk -l08:17
aaronBrame: of course there is something wrong- it's Windows.  :)08:17
Brammeaaron, lol08:17
naliothrebar: i run PPC08:17
Brammei need it for recording08:17
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kbshow to solve this: Xorg -configure saying Missing output drivers. Configuration failed.?08:18
BrammeSeveas, HappyFool : http://extraball.sunsite.dk/notepad.php?ID=810808:18
Brammeoutput of fdisk -l08:18
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rebarnalioth:  do the screensavers work for you?  On that one "skyrocket" I just get blank screen.  Others work kindof, but you can tell they aren't right...08:18
u19809after modifying menu.lst for grub, like lilo, should I run grub ?08:19
naliothrebar: there are lots of things that don't "work" and i end up compiling them myself08:19
HappyFoolu19809: no08:19
SeveasBramme, what's on /dev/hda2?08:19
Brammewindows installer made a mess of it08:19
u19809happyfool : how does grub update itself then ?08:19
naliothrebar: i don't run a screensaver since i'm on a iBook, i have the monitor shut off after 5 minutes08:19
BrammeSeveas, a FAT32 partition with backups08:19
HappyFoolu19809: it reads the menu.lst file08:19
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HappyFoolu19809: grub can read ext3 (and other partitions)08:20
SeveasBramme, then your menu.lst is ok...08:20
SeveasBramme, try experimenting in the grub console on boot08:20
u19809happyfool : ah, it it knows where its config file is ... is that built in ?08:20
Seveasor maybe try rootnoverify instead of root08:20
HappyFoolu19809: i think the location of the menu.lst file (or the grub directory) is written to the boot record08:21
HappyFoolu19809: not sure -- read 'info grub' for more ;)08:21
Seveasu19809, correct08:21
Seveasit's being built in when running grub-install08:21
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Seveasthat's why proc and /boot should be mounted when running grub-install :)08:21
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rebarnalioth: OK, thanks for the report.  That's a cool screensaver and I wish it worked.   It locks up my amd64 system hard.08:22
u19809seveas : so as long as /boot/grub remains where it is then grub autodetects ...08:22
skel__I got a question... In my Application my Gnome desktop i see Debian and i can like search all through it... why is that?08:22
Seveasyes08:22
Seveasskel__, you must have installed a bad package08:22
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skel__damm08:22
Seveasyou can remove the menu again with smeg08:22
skel__can i fix that08:22
buzzlehello08:22
skel__how do i isntall that08:23
Seveasskel__, see www.realistanew.com08:23
skel__i cant find it on Apt get08:23
green-man, one issue after another.. trying to build these alsa packages.. wants curses/ncurses but libncurses5, ncurses-base, bin, term etc.. all installed..08:23
Seveasgreen-, try libncurses5-dev08:23
green-ah, yah.. gotta get used to .deb pkg management again.. been awhile :D08:23
skel__icky its opening up Knquor instae dof firefox08:23
Seveas:)08:23
buzzlehaving trouble connecting to my lan via wireless, suggestions?08:23
green-thanks08:23
Seveasbuzzle, no08:24
daniel^buzzle: be more specific08:24
Seveasnot until you give info that is...08:24
buzzlelinksys wireless card08:24
buzzlewhat would you like me to tell you08:24
Seveasbuzzle, you need to use ndiswrapper for that08:24
squinnyes08:24
jbroomea/b/g?08:24
Seveassearch the wiki for ndiswrapper08:24
buzzlei couldnt find a faq on just the basic set up08:24
buzzleok08:24
buzzlethank you08:24
skel__i think KDe and ghonme have mixed08:25
skel__its weird08:25
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XandriX-AMDXP: fellow amd user08:25
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AMDXPyup how are you08:26
XandriX-great you ?08:26
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XandriX-AMDXP: great you ?08:27
AMDXPi am fine thanks08:27
AMDXPsorry was trying to configure my xfce408:28
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XandriX-AMDXP: oooo xfce08:28
askinifdoes adding gnue-appserver help with updating cnucash???08:28
XandriX-AMDXP: i prefer gnome o kde or fluxbox08:28
AMDXPi have a old 23308:28
AMDXPlappy08:28
AMDXPi like xfce4 and openbox08:29
XandriX-AMDXP: ship it over here lol i want tha tlappy lol08:29
XandriX-ok brb08:30
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XandriX-warty: change your nick to hoary lol08:31
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green-okay now onto alsa.. maybe you guys can keep bailing me out :) .. ran alsaconf and it said i'm good to go, but still no sound and mixers/volume control cant find it either08:33
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sensCan anyone help me download and set up cadega?08:33
^thehatsrule^dpkg -i path/to/cedega.deb08:34
sensyeah but i can't find asnywhere to download it from08:35
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HappyFoolsens: i thought cedega was pay-ware?08:37
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Seveasit is08:38
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sensHappyFool, I wouldn't know, it would appear that way though. If wine-X pay ware?08:38
^thehatsrule^cedega = new name for wine-x08:38
^thehatsrule^youd have to buy it08:39
sensthe whole idea of moving to linux was so that i didn't have to warez stuff08:39
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AMDXPwow i am loving these transparent windows08:39
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tvelocitysens, what do you want to run with cedega?08:40
chrissturmsens: cedega is very cheap08:40
^thehatsrule^sens: lol... cedega just has a nice gui for it.. you can just use wine+dxd9 patches08:40
Addiusbuying=!warez?08:40
chrissturm^thehatsrule^, cedega has a lot of more patches08:41
senstvelocity: my games from my windows partition08:41
Amaranthcedega has support for copy-protected games08:41
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chrissturmsens: so you still want to use warez?08:41
tvelocitywhich games? some run on wine too08:41
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senschrissturm: not for an unemplyed 15 year old it's not08:41
netuserHello08:41
senschrissturm: no I came to linux because I figured everything would be free as the people are nicer.08:42
HappyFoolsens: i boot windows to play games; seems easiest08:42
netuserIs there anybody here willing to help someone?08:42
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AMDXPnetuser with what08:42
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HappyFoolnetuser: maybe. ask a specific question ;)08:42
netuserAMDXP: Sound08:42
sensHappyFool: yes so do I, but it's alot of hassle, just to play a game when I could play it in linux and not even need windows.08:42
netuserAnd Happyfool :)08:42
AMDXPnetuser: I am working on sound right now too08:42
AMDXPi dont have it on my lappy =(08:43
Seveasnetuser, that still isn't a specific question..08:43
netuserEverything else works perfectly (well I have messed up windoze but it dosen't matter) but there is absoutley no sound.08:43
chrissturmsens: its only 5 usd per month. and you can also build it from cvs for free08:43
^thehatsrule^chrissturm: sure, but i mean its still very playable not using cedega, specifically :P08:43
netuserWell exept sometimes it bleeps08:43
frank__I am trying to get qwest dsl web to work on ubuntu, and irc seems to work but it wont let me browse the web08:43
senschrissturm: too late I'm downloading it now, they ont need my money08:44
netuserBut through the PC speaker, not through my speakers08:44
AMDXPi dont even see sound  when i do a lspci08:44
AMDXPi mean i dont see my sound card when i do that08:44
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netuser@frank__: Try using it through a differient port? Just a guess.08:44
HappyFoolfrank__: what error do you get? how are browsing?08:45
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Whistlerhow do i install ati radeon drivers?08:46
senswhistler: with great difficulty08:46
HappyFool!BinaryDriver08:46
ubotuHappyFool: No idea08:46
frank__it just doesnt load, but i don't have any errors08:46
Whistleri know but i need them08:46
Whistler=] 08:46
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cyphasehey everyone08:47
AMDXPbrb going to check the forums08:47
HappyFoolWhistler: try here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:47
sensWhistler: I got mine done today, but someone did the majority of it for me, i'll sned you a linkt hat might help08:47
sensWhistler: http://81.178.46.38/howto.php08:47
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sensWhistler: I sent him my xorg.conf and he did something to them, I think he just changed a tiny bit, I did find a tutorial on what to do for that as well, but i'll be damned if i can find it again08:48
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HappyFoolnetuser: can you try 'lspci|grep audio' to see if your sound card is detected?08:48
sensHow would I install a .rpm?08:48
action09hi i installed snort & acidlab from Ubuntu Hoary, can"t get acidlab working :( what di i have to do? install mysql, create database and all ?08:48
^thehatsrule^use alien to convert it08:48
action09please help i'm lost :(08:49
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Whistlersens so what do i need to change in my xorg?08:49
AMDXPHappyFool: it didnt see the soundcard08:49
HappyFoolaction09: if you don't get any response here, try installing acidlab-doc and read the manual08:49
action09sens  on Debian rpm was a package, try apt-get install rpm.. b08:50
action09HappyFool  ok thx it's a recommended package also :)08:50
Seveassens, you need alien to convert it to a .deb file08:50
AMDXPbrb08:50
sensseveas: I think I'll just abandon and try another day, thanks anyway08:51
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sensWhistler: Open your xorg.conf and make a backup of it then scroll down to where it says Section Device08:51
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sensWhistler, you done that? Need to be quick, my dad's nagging me to get off08:53
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Whistlersrry not yet08:54
Whistlerwrite i will read08:54
sensno, you need to edit your xorg.conf first08:54
sensit only takes a little while08:55
WhistlerDownload the latest ATI drivers:08:55
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green-hmm sound doesn't kick in till volumen is almost at top08:55
senshold up a second, you need to do this in the correct order08:55
green-never gets loud enough08:55
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senswhistler: wait up08:56
Seveasgreen-, try gnome-volume-control :)08:56
Whistler?08:56
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green-seveas: that's what i'm using.. alsa-mixer gives same results..08:57
sensWhistler: Open your xorg.conf open up a root terminal, type in your root password, then type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:57
sensWhistler, done that?08:58
Whistleryep08:58
Seveassens, please get some clue: root terminal wants *your* password, not a root pass and you don't need sudo in a root terminal...08:58
sensWhistler, scroll down to where it says 'section "device"08:58
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Whistlerdone08:59
green-Seveas: it's like the default volume is too low or something.. it gets loud enough for me to hear here in a quiet room.. but i can tell the speakers can get WAY louder08:59
sensSebeas: sorry i'm a linux n00b, but my way will work too so I don't see too much problem08:59
txero33does anyone have a problem finding programs after they install them?08:59
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Whistlerwhats next?08:59
sensseveas: ^what i said asbove, i spelt your name wrong08:59
Seveasgreen-, any hardware buttons on your machine or something..?08:59
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bleh321how long should this installation take ? ubuntu has beensetting up packages for 40 minutes08:59
sensWhistler: what does it say after Driver?08:59
WhistlerIdentifier"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9600 (RV350 AP)"09:00
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Whistlerand?09:00
sensWhistler, ypu thats correct, the line below it though09:00
txero33does anyone have a problem finding and running programs after they install them09:00
bl4cktonehow do I uninstall mplayer?09:00
txero33apt-get remove mplayer09:00
txero33in the root menu09:00
Whistlerbl4cktone sudo apt-get install mplayer09:00
Whistleruh09:00
Whistlerunistal09:00
Whistler:D09:00
txero33^_^09:00
Whistleri thouth install09:01
Seveassudo aptitude purge mplayer09:01
Whistler=] 09:01
HappyFooltxero33: if you know the package main, you can use 'dpkg -L <packagename>'09:01
sensWhistler: ?09:01
Whistlerection "Device"09:01
WhistlerIdentifier"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9600 (RV350 AP)"09:01
WhistlerDriver"ati"09:01
WhistlerBusID"PCI:1:0:0"09:01
sensChange the "ati" to "fglrx"09:01
txero33HappyFool, what is dpkg?09:02
txero33HappyFool, hpw do i find out the package main09:02
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HappyFooltxero33: debian package management application09:02
bl4cktonealright it's gone xing seems much better09:02
HappyFooltxero33: i don't understand that question, sorry09:02
sensWhistler: done that?09:02
HappyFooltxero33: 'main' is a collection of packages09:02
Danarsomething gparted did made partitions hdb1, hdb2 & hdb4 disappear from /dev, but gparted still sees them. can anyone help?09:02
TrixseyAnyone know a good drag-and-drop FTP client?09:02
Whistleryep09:02
Whistlerdone09:03
SirGirgftp?09:03
Razor-Xanyone here use eterm?09:03
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SirGirRazor-X, yeah, used to09:03
SeveasTrixsey, nautilus :)09:03
bl4cktonerazor-x at it again eh?09:03
sensWhistler: now just follow the instructions on that site I sent you, after you've saved the new xorg.conf09:03
drmoddingsomebody can help me with the audio of quake III? i use the echo "quake3.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss like root but when the batle begins the game frezee and i need restart x09:03
Razor-Xbl4cktone: yes09:03
sensWhistler: actually hang on09:03
SeveasTrixsey, places -> connect to server09:03
Razor-XSirGir: OMG09:03
txero33HappyFool, well maybe if i tell u my exaclt problem u can help more09:03
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Razor-Xis it possible to use ttf console fonts withe eterm?09:03
HappyFooltxero33: ok09:03
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txero33HappyFool, used apt-get to install a game and now i have no idea where to find it09:03
sysrqRazor-X: no09:03
Whistlerok thx09:03
Whistler?09:04
HappyFooltxero33: which game?09:04
Razor-Xsysrq: damn09:04
sensWhistler: you need to save it as something else save it in your home directory or somewhere09:04
SirGirRazor-X, don't think so09:04
txero33HappyFool, arkrpg09:04
Whistlersens i made a backup09:04
Danartxero33, try running that09:04
sensWhistler: tell me how it goes09:04
sensWhislter: ok09:04
Razor-Xmaybe i'll switch terms then....09:04
SirGirI got som strange rendering problems in Eterm =/09:04
txero33Danar, i went to run application arkrpg and nothing happened09:04
HappyFooltxero33: if Danar's suggestion doesn't work, type 'dpkg -L arkrpg|grep /usr/bin'09:04
green-oh boy.. part of the volume issue (maybe all of it) is that my rear speakers are not working.. sound drivers dont even seem to identify them09:04
green-great09:04
txero33HappyFool, into the terminal?09:04
HappyFooltxero33: and if *that* doesn't work, type 'dpkg -L arkrpg' and paste the output to a pastebin09:05
Razor-Xis it possible to increase the eterm font size without increasing the term size?09:05
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HappyFooltxero33: indeed09:05
sensWhistler: it working?09:05
Whistleri am downloading09:05
Whistlerdriver09:05
HappyFooltxero33: you can use this to show me lots of output: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:05
SirGirRazor-X, sorry, cant help you.. nerver tried09:05
sensWhistler: ok09:05
Razor-XSirGir: you read those miniscule fonts?09:06
SirGirEterm --help?09:06
sensWhistler: tell me how it goes as soon as possible my dad really wants me off the computer :P09:06
SirGiryeah09:06
Whistlerok09:06
Whistler=] 09:06
Razor-Xnopes, i've perused the Eterm manpage09:06
Danartxero33, try running it from a terminal window instead...09:06
Danartxero33, that way at least if there's an error you can see it09:07
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txero33HappyFool, ok i tpyed what u said09:07
TrixseySeveas, woah its nice :D09:07
HappyFooltxero33: did you see any output?09:07
SeveasTrixsey, what is nice?09:07
TrixseyNautilus09:07
Danartxero33, since nothing happened, it may have tried to run, but exited with an error, since it didn't say it wasn't found09:07
txero33HappyFool, it told me /usr/bin/arkclient09:07
Whistlersens driver are 35 mb09:07
Whistler=[09:07
HappyFooltxero33: ok, now try 'arkclient'09:07
sensWhistler: what connection you on?09:07
Danartxero33, then run arkclient09:08
Whistlerslow09:08
Whistler=] 09:08
Razor-Xsysrq: is it possible to increase font size in eterm without increasing terminal size?09:08
Whistler~14409:08
Whistler:D09:08
Whistlerso it will take a while09:08
Whistler=] 09:08
txero33HappyFool, well either my laptop is slow or nothing happened09:08
sensWhistler: how much has it done already?09:08
Whistler3%09:08
Whistler=] 09:08
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erbhello09:08
HappyFooltxero33: i recommend reading the documentation for this program09:08
txero33HappyFool, i ran it in a terminal it popped up then closed again09:09
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HappyFooltxero33: take a look in /usr/share/doc/arkrpg09:09
sensWhistler: Ah, well i'll leave the computer, that way dad can't get annoyed at me. Just start a seperate chat window with me and tell me in there when it's finished09:09
HappyFooltxero33: perhaps you need to tell it to use a server, or something09:09
ShishRazor-X: I'd think terminal size is set as font width * 80 x font height * 25 -- if you want bigger font with the same zie, you'd need to increase the font then shrink the window09:09
Danartxero33, in a terminal, try 'man arkclient'09:09
Razor-XShish: thanks a shitload, i'll use that formula09:10
Danartxero33, or 'arkclient --help'09:10
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SirGirRazor-X, you'r not using Ubuntu-AMD64 are you?09:11
Razor-XSirGir: nopes09:11
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codyHello09:11
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naliothRazor-X: are you in here stirring up trouble?09:12
txero33Danar,  ahh the help one sheds some light09:12
Codeman7In Ubuntu 5.04, my laptop's screen freezes for a second every minute or so. It's just momentarily unresponsive. Any ideas?09:12
SirGirokey. damn, I got this strange problem in Eterm in Hoary-ADM64... =/09:12
TrixseyIt feels like something is limiting the full capacity of my system (Lack of drivers?) When I drag my mouse around marking things randomly in the desktop it laags even... I have the latest ATI drivers for my card09:12
SirGirAMD*09:12
Razor-Xnalioth: getting emotional over Eterm09:13
txero33Danar, i almost want to give up games aren't worth this much haslte09:13
drmoddingsomebody can help me with the audio of quake III? i use the echo "quake3.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss like root but when the batle begins the game frezee and i need restart x09:13
txero33Danar, its just telling me that files are missing09:13
naliothRazor-X: well calm down09:14
txero33Danar, sounds like a pain :)09:14
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naliothRazor-X: your brainwaves are bothering the local fauna and flora09:14
Razor-Xnalioth: I couldn't _sleep_ over eterm09:14
Razor-Xnow, just one little nag, and i'm done configuring it09:14
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Codeman7In Ubuntu 5.04, my laptop's screen freezes for a second every minute or so. It's just momentarily unresponsive. Any ideas? Also, already checked, no high CPU processes, DMA is on, and it always happens... not related to HD or anything09:15
Danartxero33, well, you will need to learn some things to make the most of your pc, but you only need learn them once...09:15
Danartxero33, are you sure there's missing files?09:16
txero33Danar, it said that it couldn't find the config file09:16
txero33Danar,  im sure theres somthing wrong on my part09:16
SirGirAnyone? http://img37.echo.cx/img37/7755/screenshoteterm0920pi.png09:17
refuze2loozetxero33: what are you trying to install09:17
ivanoxanyone knows what this means in German "fog" ?09:17
txero33refuze2looze, arkrpg09:17
Danartxero33, ah, according to this: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/games/arkrpg it's not a game in itself, but something  you make games with09:17
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refuze2loozeivanox: there are german -> english translators on the web09:17
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_kevinI downloaded a .deb file09:17
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_kevinhow do i install it09:17
ivanoxyeah I know09:17
ivanoxbut its doesnt know that word09:18
Razor-Xmisa likes this!09:18
refuze2looze_kevin: sudo dpkg -i packagename09:18
Codeman7Please, anyone? I would really like to use Ubuntu, but I can't at this rate.09:18
Danartxero33, it's for making rpg games. so if you want to use it to play games,  you'd need to get a game designed for it that someone's already made. or make your own09:18
_kevinok09:18
TrixseyIt feels like something is limiting the full capacity of my system (Lack of drivers?) When I drag my mouse around marking things randomly in the desktop it laags even... I have the latest ATI drivers for my card :-( Seveas, since you seem like a pro h4x0r... think you can help me? :(09:18
Danartxero33, that would be what you're missing09:18
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refuze2loozeCodeman7: it's a very strange problem. are you using the correct video drivers?09:18
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Codeman7refuze2looze: Yeah09:19
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refuze2loozeCodeman7, which ones?09:19
quamanyone have any suggestions for a list of commonly used packages that most people use but aren't normally installed with ubuntu?09:19
Codeman7refuze2looze: it's not that slow of a laptop either, it's a Dell 1.13GHz P3 with an nvidia GeForce2 Go... I used it with the default driver (nv) and also am now using the nvidia drivers. No change.09:19
Razor-XI think, I will use this henceforth, thanks everyone for helping me get eterm setup09:19
HappyFooltxero33: at a guess, try installing arkhart -- it's apparently a 'world' for arkrpg09:19
txero33Danar, OH! haha ok09:19
txero33HappyFool, that might work09:19
SirGirRazor-X, You havn't seen this prob before? http://img37.echo.cx/img37/7755/screenshoteterm0920pi.png09:19
refuze2loozeCodeman7, let me think for a minute what it can be09:19
HappyFooltxero33: otherwise, try a different game. there are lots available09:20
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naliothquam: different people commonly use different stuff09:20
Codeman7refuze2looze: Ok, I don't know if this narrows anything down, but it does it when I'm using synergy, which basically controls the mouse and keyboard over the network, as well.09:20
naliothquam do you have universe and multiverse enabled?09:20
txero33HappyFool, yeah when i think of linux games was not anywhere near my mind at that time09:20
TrixseyGuys! Is it a bad thing to login through the root account automatically? Linux is all about security.. but who would hack a private person with useless stuff on the com? :p09:20
txero33HappyFool, theres a lot of games though09:20
refuze2loozeCodeman7, did you try lowering your refresh rate?09:20
quamnalioth: :P well, there are applications that are used by quite a few people. i have everything i need right now, but i want to try and get whatever im likely to use in the future, whether i know i need it right now or not :P09:21
HappyFoolTrixsey: if you are root you can easily break your computer by accident09:21
quamif that makes sense09:21
Razor-XSirGir: hmmmm....09:21
Razor-XSirGir: what font were you using?09:21
refuze2loozeCodeman7, ah, so it doesn't always happen? only when using synergy?09:21
Codeman7refuze2looze: No, it ALWAYS does it.09:21
quamnalioth: yeah, i have uncommented the universe/multiverse stuff in the sources file09:21
Razor-Xtry running Eterm again, with Eterm -F fixed09:21
SirGirRazor-X, default Eterm font..09:21
TrixseyHappyFool :o Would you give an example of what I could accidently do? :p09:21
Codeman7refuze2looze: Just so you know it's not an input problem09:21
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Codeman7refuze2looze: Also, machine works fine on XP and Fedora, so no hardware problem I don't imagine09:21
HappyFoolTrixsey: typing 'rm -rf *' while in the root directory09:21
naliothquam: it takes more then uncommenting, you have to add some text09:21
Danarwell, there are linux games: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+games09:22
HappyFoolTrixsey: erasing a kernel image09:22
refuze2loozeCodeman7, does it *lag* or does the screen just freeze for a second? can you tell?09:22
TrixseyHappyFool, I often use the root user in the terminal anyway? :P09:22
TrixseySince my system is so limited unless I use the powerfull r00tie09:22
Trixsey:(09:22
HappyFoolTrixsey: how's that?09:22
Trixseyif I ever install something through root09:23
DanarTrixsey, best practice is to never log in as root if you can help it. use sudo if you need to run commands as root, and only log in as a regular user09:23
TrixseyI'd need root access to change those files09:23
quamnalioth: what do i need to add? if it's in the ubuntu guide, lemme know, and i'll look it up09:23
HappyFoolTrixsey: change what files?09:23
Codeman7refuze2looze: It doesn't seem to lag... It just stops for a second. Sometimes if I'm typing it'll actually have what i was in the middle of put there, but most of the time it just drops the letters I typed while it was "frozen"09:23
HappyFoolTrixsey: if you use apt-get to install applications, they are usually available to all users09:23
naliothquam: ubuntuguide will mess you up09:23
Razor-XSirGir: try Eterm -F fixed09:23
quamheh09:23
refuze2loozeCodeman7, i would try playing a bit with the graphics settings.. lowering the refresh rate first, then try lowering the color depth, resolution, maybe even using VESA drivers. then you would know for sure whether it's a video problem or not09:23
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naliothquam: i've just spent several hours helpin a user fix theri system cuz they followed some trash inst in ubuntuguide09:24
Codeman7refuze2looze: Ok, let me give it a shot.09:24
nalioth!Restricted09:24
ubotusomebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:24
HappyFoolTrixsey: if you are a desktop user or developer, as opposed to a system administrator, you should not need to be root often09:24
naliothquam: see what ubotu said re restricted09:24
refuze2loozeCodeman7, if it drops the letters while it was frozen it probably isn't a video problem.. maybe give it a shot anyways09:24
txero33HappyFool,  installing arkhart fixed it thank you all for helping me09:24
Whistler!help09:24
refuze2loozeCodeman7, also maybe disabling esd to see if it's a sound problem09:24
Codeman7refuze2looze: Well, it's already at 60Hz09:24
HappyFooltxero33: happy hunting kobolds09:24
SirGirRazor-X, well, some of it was fixed now! But the curser is still this strange square..09:25
refuze2loozeCodeman7, are you sure you don't have bad sectors on your HD?09:25
Codeman7refuze2looze: Ok, not sure how to disable the sound09:25
Whistler!uptime09:25
quamnalioth: yeah, well, i just reinstalled ubuntu earlier today because i had so much trash on it that i had installed that i didn't want to have to spend hours to clean up, so this time i want to do it right :P09:25
Codeman7refuze2looze: I suppose that's possible, but why wouldn't Fedora have had a problem? I also ran the Hitachi HD check and it came up with nothing09:25
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Nardso why are the screen savers for ubuntu so slow and choppy09:25
naliothquam: then stay away from ubuntuguide, backports, marillat and other wild repos09:26
Razor-XWhat HAPPENED09:26
Razor-XSirGir: hmmmm, that's a different thing...09:26
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Danarcan anyone help me with missing partitions?09:26
Razor-Xmy Eterm just... DIED09:26
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refuze2loozeCodeman7, try killall esd in terminal09:26
Danari have 3 partitions that gparted can see, but don't show up in /dev09:26
refuze2loozeCodeman7, fedora was running Gnome also?09:26
SirGirRazor-X, doh.. it's coming back.. Well, thanks anyway. Im using gnome-terminal with ProFont and i'm pretty happy with it :)09:27
Danari was trying to resize one, and they disappeared09:27
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TrixseyHappyFool, I'm watching movies and programming.. thats about it (I'm still a Linux newbo.. only had it for a week now)09:27
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Codeman7refuze2looze: Yeah09:27
HappyFoolTrixsey: then, in my opinion, you should rarely need to be root09:27
Razor-XSirGir: no, I can help with that09:27
HappyFoolTrixsey: once your system is setup, you should rarely need to tweak it09:27
SirGirRazor-X, Okey!09:27
Razor-Xmy ETERM.... <Darth Vader>NOOOOOOOOOOOO</Darth Vader>09:27
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SirGirheh..09:27
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refuze2loozeCodeman7, pretty strange. try to think what was different about your fedora setup. so your HD doesn't make noise when it freezes right?09:28
Danar:(09:28
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stjepanhi09:28
Codeman7refuze2looze: Nope, most of the time I'm just typing in IRC or something, with little to no HD activity09:28
stjepanI have started EDE09:28
Codeman7refuze2looze: And killing ESD didn't help09:29
stjepanI press alt+ctrl+F609:29
stjepanthen I log in09:29
Razor-XSirGir: --app-cursor09:29
Razor-Xadd that in09:29
stjepanand after that I type xinit09:29
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stjepanand then I type startede09:29
stjepanit is workin ok09:29
stjepanbut09:29
SirGirRazor-X, nope.. still.09:29
stjepanthere is terminal09:29
refuze2loozeCodeman7, strange.. try switching to i686 kernel?09:29
stjepanif I close this terminal, EDE closes also09:30
stjepanbecause I have started EDE from that terminal09:30
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stjepanhow can I hide or close that terminal09:30
SirGirRazor-X, It's when I toggle transp. I get this squares..09:30
stjepan?09:30
refuze2loozestjepan, then don't start it from the terminal09:30
HappyFoolstjepan: 'man xinit'09:30
Codeman7refuze2looze: Is there a ubuntu precompiled one I can switch to or would I have to recompile it?09:30
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SirGirRazor-X, and when I move the window09:30
stjepanHappyFool, what does that mean?09:31
Razor-XSirGir: have you updated your Eterm?09:31
nalioth_wrknstjepan: when you start programs from terminal and want your terminal back, stick a & on the end of the command  i.e. "konqueror &"09:31
HappyFoolstjepan: type that in the console. it will give you the documentation for xinit09:31
stjepanrefuze2looze, but how should I run it?09:31
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Razor-Xok poeple, i'm giving my X manager a restart, C-b stopped working, and now Eterm09:31
HappyFoolstjepan: it appears you can supply a program to run; if none is given, xterm is started09:31
refuze2loozeCodeman7, ofcourse. install linux-686 from synaptic and reboot09:31
TrixseyI've got another question :) Which is, in your opinion, the best desktop environment?09:31
SirGirRazor-X, Im using 0.9.2 from backports..09:31
nalioth_wrknbackports  <hisssssss>09:32
HappyFoolTrixsey: are you familiar with the internet term 'holy war' ? ;)09:32
refuze2loozestjepan, you want it to start automatically when you boot up?09:32
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TrixseyHappyFool  lol no :p09:32
HappyFoolTrixsey: desktop environment preference is a highly emotive matter09:32
stjepanrefuze2looze, no09:32
stjepanok tnx guys09:33
refuze2loozestjepan, Applications > Run Application09:33
TrixseyHappyFool, oh.. lol09:33
Razor-Xback09:33
Razor-Xlemme see if it's working09:33
bl4cktonehow do I get xine tied to mozilla firefox as default player?09:33
stjepanI will try that09:33
TrixseyHappyFool: which one do you prefer then?09:33
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HappyFoolTrixsey: the default one (gnome). mostly because it's the default.09:34
Razor-Xok, Eterm is still not working09:34
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AMDXPwhen i do a sudo modprobe snd-es18xx it gives me a no such device error09:34
Codeman7refuze2looze: OK... I'm installing the 686 kernel now09:34
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Razor-X......... and neither is C-b09:34
Razor-Xok, restart time09:34
refuze2loozeCodeman7, good luck.. dunno if it'll solve your problem. it usually gives a very slight performance increase if any09:34
Codeman7refuze2looze: It does have a hint of sense to it, though, since Fedora used 686, and I didn't have a problem. I'll be back shortly, hopefully this will work. Thanks for the help!09:35
TrixseyHappyFool,  you know any program for manipulating the GNOME environment? customization.. or whatever one could call it09:35
refuze2loozeCodeman7, np09:35
HappyFoolTrixsey: take a look in System -> Preferences09:35
refuze2loozetoo late09:35
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HappyFoolTrixsey: otherwise Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor09:36
TrixseyHappyFool,  I want more advanced preferences :(09:36
Trixseyoh opk09:36
stjepanI am back09:36
darko__in bash how do i do: IF "jackd" and "oss2jack" is NOT running, do stuff:09:36
stjepanstartede &09:36
stjepanit doesn't work09:36
refuze2loozeTrixsey, gtweakui09:36
HappyFoolstjepan: have you read the xinit man pages ?09:36
stjepanthere is terminal09:36
HappyFoolstjepan: 'man xinit'09:36
TrixseySeveas, when I connected to an FTP it automatically added itself to "Places" (Nautilus). How do I remove it?09:36
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stjepanI should type "man xinit"09:37
stjepan?09:37
HappyFoolstjepan: yes09:37
Razor-Xok then, time to check if it works this time around09:37
stjepanoh09:37
bl4cktoneneed help with mplayer messing up firefox09:37
stjepanI cleared log09:37
stjepanHappyFool, can you repeat that, pls?09:37
Razor-XC-b works!09:37
Razor-Xbut....... Eterm doesen't -_-09:38
HappyFoolstjepan: 'man xinit'09:38
stjepanoh tnx09:38
stjepanI am fool09:38
stjepan:[09:38
bl4cktone*puts lips together makes fart noises*09:38
Whistlerwhat is wmaker?09:38
HappyFoolstjepan: don't worry ;-)09:38
stjepanHappyFool, ok I'll try that09:38
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AMDXPit isnt finding my soundcard for some reason09:39
quamnalioth: thanks again for the info09:39
HappyFoolAMDXP: taken a look here ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards09:39
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AMDXPHappyFool: thanks brb09:39
Whistlerwhat is wmaker?09:39
GNULinuxerWhistler > windowmaker09:40
HappyFoolWhistler: according to synaptic, it's a 'NeXTSTEP-like window manager for X'09:40
Whistleroh09:40
Whistlerrhx09:40
GNULinuxerWhistler > it's a nice , lightweight desktop/ window manager09:40
Whistlerthx09:40
Whistler=] 09:40
bl4cktoneBlub blub blub09:40
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goofyheadedpunkbl4cktone: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Don't be a jerk. ( Poke around a bit, it's in preferences->download )09:40
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bl4cktonegoofyheadedpunk lol Just bored09:41
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GNULinuxergoofyheadedpunk > we need to be  a bit patient with newbies09:41
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stjepanI am back again09:42
Spughow large should the / partition be? my hd is 40 gb09:42
GNULinuxerstazz > welcome09:42
goofyheadedpunkGNULinuxer: True.09:42
refuze2loozedarko__, i think it's if [ -z $( pgrep jackd ) ] ; then09:42
Whistleri used 5gb for ubuntu and 1 gb swap09:42
GNULinuxerSpug > it depends, but 10 Gb would be safe09:42
Whistlerits more than enough for me09:42
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stjepanbetter question: How can I run program from terminal and then terminal will be hidden (or exited)?09:42
goofyheadedpunkbl4cktone: Even if you are bored don't fill the channel with gibberish. It's rude and annoying.09:42
bl4cktonegoofyheadedpunk this is the part where I blow up in rage because you pointed out any form of noobness09:43
GNULinuxerstjepan > use &09:43
stjepanyeah09:43
goofyheadedpunkbl4cktone: hehe09:43
GNULinuxerstjepan > run it in the bg09:43
stjepanbut it doesn't work09:43
stjepanGNULinuxer, what is bg?09:43
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GNULinuxerstjepan > then say nohup program-name ... bg == background09:43
Spughow large should the swap partition be? i only have 128 mb ram09:44
stjepanwhat?09:44
stjepanI want to do that: startede09:44
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stjepanhow to hide terminal and run startede?09:44
GNULinuxerstjepan > man nohup09:44
refuze2loozeSpug, it could be as big as you want.. i think usually twice the size of your RAM is cool, but more wouldn't hurt09:44
bwlangSpug: depends on how much software you want to run at the same time... for desktop stuff probably 256M is fine09:44
Spugokay, thanks09:44
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stjepanGNULinuxer, and that is ...?09:44
GNULinuxerstjepan > what is that software you want to run?09:45
GNULinuxerstjepan > why not create a launcher, or use Alt+F4 ?09:45
refuze2loozestjepan, man command gives you the manual of that command (ie how to use it n stuff). so run man nohup and read it\09:45
bl4cktonegoofyheadedpunk: I don't want to talk to you no more you empty headed animal trough wiper! I fart in your general direction!09:45
AMDXPman Mplayer works great09:45
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stjepanEDE is Equinox Desktop Environment09:45
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refuze2loozebl4cktone, what is this crap. if you're not gonna act mature get the hell out of here09:46
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refuze2loozebl4cktone, people here come in for help, you can't fill up the channel with nonsense09:47
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Whistleris it possible to connect mobile phone to linux?09:47
narchwhistler, yes09:47
Whistlernarch any tutorials?09:47
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narchwhistler, probably, haven't needed them tho09:48
narchmost of it is self-explanatory09:48
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Whistleri have motorola c650 how can i connect it?09:49
narchwhistler, USB probably, serial almost definitely, bluetooth probably (assuming the C650 has bluetooth, which i suspect it does)09:49
goofyheadedpunkwhistler: http://www.google.com/linux?q=motorola+c650&sourceid=mozilla-search for starters.09:49
netuserif its a cable modem try using an ethrnet cable09:49
netuserwho has blueyonder broadband here?09:50
Whistlerit has usb only09:50
djm62can anyone give me hints on how to get xrandr to rotate my laptop screen? I get BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) using options straight from the manpage09:50
netuserah ok09:50
narchwhistler, then try plugging the USB in09:50
Whistlernothing happens09:50
ivokslol... wierd, uniqe, grand prix :)09:50
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djm62netuser: I have blueyonder, but I just connect through the family router, so it's just normal dhcp09:50
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netuserdjm62: do blueyonder support linux?09:51
narchwhistler, most phones use the generic serial USB profile09:51
TrixseyWhen I connected to an FTP it automatically added itself to "Places" (Nautilus). How do I remove it?09:51
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narchwhistler, so you plug the USB cable in, and you get a serial device in /dev that gives you a connection to the phone09:51
djm62netuser: I severely doubt it...but a web search will usually turn up workarounds in that sort of case09:51
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stjepanhi09:52
stjepannohup doesn't work09:52
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HappyFoolstjepan: does 'xinit startede' not work?09:52
stjepanwhen I close terminal, EDE closes also09:52
netuserdjm62 ah ok, even though they use linux for their stuff like mail platofrms...09:52
spiderwormhi all, totem plays movies strangely for me, at first at correct speed, but then it slows down to a crawl, a frame a second maybe, has anybody seen this behaviour before? ubuntu 5.04 64 bit09:52
narchwhislter, then you can use one of the mobile phone tools for accessing stuff on the phone, or you can use btcid (i know its called 'BlueTooth Caller ID', but it just uses a serial connection)09:52
narchwhistler, btcid is a great program, if only it wasn't so ugly :)09:52
Codeman7refuze2looze: Well, no go.09:52
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stjepanHappyFool, I typed xinit and after that, when09:52
stjepanX is running09:52
HappyFoolstjepan: no09:52
stjepanI ran ede09:52
Codeman7refuze2looze: Do you think this coul dhave anything to do with my laptop's power scaling or wahtever?09:52
djm62netuser: yeah, the guys that do that aren't the helpdesk drones...if you had the choice, nor would you be ;)09:52
HappyFoolstjepan: i don't know if it'll work but try it09:52
stjepanI should to type: xinit startede?09:53
HappyFoolstjepan: in the console 'xinit startede'09:53
Codeman7refuze2looze: like right now my gnome applet says it's at 731MHz, but if I open something it goes to 1.13GHz09:53
stjepanI will try09:53
HappyFoolstjepan: yes. the xinit man page is confusing, but i recommend you study it in detail09:53
HappyFoolaargh09:53
HappyFooljack-in-the-box09:53
jedipottsyARGH09:53
jedipottsydoes ne1 know how to enable sound for snd_atiixp ?09:53
Codeman7refuze2looze: Yup, did something, once the processor jumped down to 731MHz again it froze.09:53
netuserdjm62: id rather not be with all those noobs-to-windows: "why do i need to click start to shutdown my pc?"09:53
bl4cktoneI.. I'm sorry guys I'll try not to make nonsence in here anymore.  Don't know what came over me09:54
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HappyFoola perfectly good ui question09:54
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djm62hey, that's crap design09:54
djm62wouldn't get past gnome HIG ;)09:54
netuserdjm62it's m$hit, what do you expect:09:54
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jedipottsyhow do i add pci=noapci to boot?09:54
netuserneither would i, but im a win pro but lin noob09:55
xeyshello all09:55
xeysi have a question regarding live distro09:55
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HappyFooljedipottsy: you can add it in /boot/grub/menu.lst09:55
HappyFooljedipottsy: you can also add it during boot09:55
carypfp, you around? haha09:56
xeysis there a way to use my key drive to setup a home folder that will hold all my C files and header files and make files?09:56
Codeman7Ok, well...09:56
Codeman7Can anyone help me? On a laptop, my processor jumps down to 731MHz from 1.13GHz when I'm not doing anything intensize, and my computer freezes for a second while this happens...09:56
xeysand is there a way to install software and put it on the ketdrive?09:56
bleh321ok,. is it possible for a single network card to use two ip adresses each for diffirent oses, with vmware or do i have to route the guest os through the host09:56
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jedipottsyHappyFool, where do i add it in?09:57
xeyshello?09:57
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Echyloanyone can help me with finding a good dyndns.org update client? (dynamic dns)09:57
guupstacodeman7, power saving feature?09:57
djm62xeys: the key drive is just a hard drive, but you'd need to add appropriate symlinks09:57
HappyFooljedipottsy: in /boot/grub/menu.lst ?09:57
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Codeman7guupsta: i guess that is what it's doing, despite me being plugged in.09:57
jedipottsyHappyFool, yeah09:57
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djm62xeys: also, do you really want/need this?  Is your intention to have no $HOME if you lose your keydrive/forget it/wipe it09:58
stjepan"xinit startede" doesn't work09:58
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stjepanthere is an error09:58
jedipottsyHappyFool, this is current boot:   titleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-38609:58
jedipottsyroot(hd0,2)09:58
jedipottsykernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash09:58
jedipottsyinitrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-38609:58
jedipottsysavedefault09:58
jedipottsyboot09:58
stjepanbad command line optiom "startede"09:58
stjepan:(09:58
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superkittycan i upgrade Ubuntu to Debian sid or etch?09:58
HappyFooljedipottsy: please don't paste so much here09:58
HappyFooljedipottsy: you can add it to the end of the 'kernel' line09:58
darko__refuze2looze: thanks :) that worked.09:58
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djm62xeys: if you insert the keydrive, it should appear on your desktop, so you can easily treat it as "blank space09:59
jedipottsyHappyFool, k thnx09:59
TrixseyHappyFool,  You know Nautilus?09:59
HappyFooljedipottsy: so 'kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash pci=noacpi'09:59
stjepanhey09:59
stjepanplease help me09:59
HappyFooljedipottsy: however, this will not be preserved when you upgrade kernels09:59
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guupstaCodeman7: for curiosity, is it freezing for a "long time", like couple of seconds?09:59
stjepandid you forget my problem?09:59
stjepan:)09:59
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HappyFoolTrixsey: not really, sorry09:59
xeysok, thanks much. gcc should still work fine once I get it there09:59
jedipottsyHappyFool, thnx :D09:59
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topyliyay! i can finally connect my phone to my ubuntu box09:59
HappyFoolstjepan: try 'xinit /path/to/startede', and please read 'man xinit' carefully -- i appreciate that it is confusing10:00
stjepanok10:00
MobiusHello, how is everyone today?10:00
djm62xeys: you want gcc on the key? that's a bit crazy...gcc takes a lot of infrastructure as well as the main binaries:  is this something you'd be better doing with a liveCD for the OS and keydrive for files?10:00
xeyshey guys, the clamshell ibooks work well with ppc live distro10:00
jedipottsyne1 know how to disable modem drivers?10:00
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xeysno, i mean I want my source on the key10:00
Codeman7guupsta: 1-2 seconds10:00
jedipottsyi think ALSA is loading modem drivers, rather than sound drivers :S10:01
djm62jedipottsy: are they acting like soundcards?10:01
Spughow can i make musicbox play mp3s?10:01
crimsunjedipottsy: if you're using hoary, they're already deprioritised10:01
djm62jedipottsy: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa at the bottom of the file, you can see how to disable that behaviour10:01
superkitty can i upgrade Ubuntu to Debian sid or etch?10:01
guupstaCodeman7: ok. nothing that I could help you, just wanted to know :/10:01
crimsunSpug: musicbox, the python player?10:01
Spugi dunno10:01
Spugmaybe i'm mixing up10:01
Spugthe default music player in ubuntu10:02
Spugthe itunes-esque one10:02
topyliSpug: install gstreamer0.8-mad if you mean rhythmbox10:02
Spugah, yes10:02
Spugthat's the one10:02
jedipottsy/etc/modprobe.d/alsa - no file10:02
Amaranthrhythmbox10:03
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jedipottsycat /proc/asound/cards10:03
Amaranthwow, lag10:03
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jedipottsydisplays this : 1 [Modem          ] : ATIIXP-MODEM - ATI IXP Modem10:03
jedipottsy                     ATI IXP Modem rev 1 at 0xe8004800, irq 1710:03
djm62jedipottsy: alsa-base, sorry typing from memory10:03
Codeman7guupsta: Ok, Thanks :)... I'm going to check for a BIOS option to disable it while plugged in. Dunno though.10:03
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corphey10:03
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crimsunjedipottsy: what's index 0? (you displayed index 1)10:04
corpanyone know how to enable video for linux?10:04
ompaulcorp,  hay on the other hand is for horses :)10:04
pistolhey all, i have a libc dependecy problem, apparently i should remove marillat from the sources.list file - but what lines is this exactly?10:04
pistolDepends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed10:04
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refuze2loozeCodeman7, sorry i was away. anyways there's the problem.. maybe you can change this in the BIOS or soething?10:04
crimsunpistol: for what, mplayer-$arch?10:04
refuze2loozeor disable the power saving?10:04
Codeman7refuze2looze: Yeah, I'm going ot check that in a second, once this program is done compiling.10:04
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HappyFoolpistol: the line(s) with 'marillat' in it10:04
refuze2loozegotta run10:04
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jedipottsycrimsun, this is at the very bottom10:05
jedipottsycrimsun, # Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 010:05
jedipottsyoptions snd-atiixp-modem index=-210:05
jedipottsyoptions snd-bt87x index=-210:05
jedipottsyoptions snd-intel8x0m index=-210:05
jedipottsyoptions snd-via82xx-modem index=-210:05
HappyFoolplease don't paste more than 2 lines10:05
crimsunjedipottsy: that's correct. Now show me card 0, please.10:05
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jedipottsycrimsun, card 0?10:05
pistolcrimsun, pretty much everything on ubuntuguide.org :(10:06
crimsunjedipottsy: yes, card 0. Look at the output of cat /proc/asound/modules10:06
pistolHappyFool, there aren't any line with marillat10:06
AMDXPHappyFool: to restart sound do i have to logout?10:06
jedipottsy1 snd_atiixp_modem10:06
crimsunjedipottsy: paste the output of ,,lspci -v'' and ,,lsmod'' (without the quotes or commas) onto pastebin10:06
HappyFoolpistol: perhaps it would be simplest if you put your /etc/apt/sources.list here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:07
crimsunAMDXP: no, you don't (unless you had to use the adduser command)10:07
AMDXPi didnt use the adduser10:07
AMDXPhow do i restart sound10:07
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jedipottsycrimsun, how do i get to pastebin?10:07
pistolHappyFool, done10:07
crimsunAMDXP: then you just need to ,,sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload''10:07
costashello10:08
crimsunjedipottsy: see the topic paste reference10:08
HappyFoolpistol: stand by10:08
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jedipottsyahh http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:08
HappyFoolpistol: i suspect that the ftp.tux.org line is the problem10:08
jedipottsyok10:08
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HappyFoolpistol: i am not a guru, but i don't think using a debian sarge repository is a good idea10:09
pistolHappyFool, thanks very much, i will try commenting that10:09
pistolHappyFool, apparently you need that for sun jre10:09
AMDXPcrimsun: thanks10:09
HappyFoolpistol: i think ubuntuguide.org recommends backports for these sorts of things10:09
jedipottsycrimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/12710:09
HappyFoolpistol: for java, see wiki.ubuntu.com/Java10:09
pistolHappyFool, okay, thanks again - i just installed ubuntu today so i'm a bit newbie10:10
pistolthnkas for your patience so far though :)10:10
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jedipottsycrimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/12810:10
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HappyFoolpistol: i *think* Seveas usually recommends method 3 from that page10:11
yhanwhat is the best cdburner apps for linux ?10:11
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HappyFoolpistol: "Quick Sun JDK Install"10:11
jedipottsycrimsun, got any idea?10:12
HappyFoolhmm, but that's the jdk, not the jre10:12
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yhanI 'd like to found something similar to nero for win10:12
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pistolHappyFool, ubuntuguide? i cant find "quick sun jdk install" on it10:12
caryquestion for whoever will answer: i had previously tried to compile a kernel and it failed and now i cant remember where the kernel that i had patched is. i need to compile it but cant find it. are kernels ready to go generally ending with .bz2 ?10:12
HappyFoolpistol: no, on wiki.ubuntu.com/Java -- however, i'm not sure that that is what you want10:13
cary(come on bob2, be around!)10:13
HappyFoolpistol: if ubuntuguide.org has a method, and it works, you might as well use it10:13
crimsunjedipottsy: sec, looking10:13
pistolHappyFool, :( nope - cant find sun-j2re1.5 now since i have removed tux.org10:13
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Echyloslaapwel iedereen :)10:14
HappyFoolpistol: check which repositories ubuntuguide.org recommends10:14
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stjepanoh10:14
stjepanIt works10:14
HappyFoolpistol: ubuntguide has 'deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted'10:14
stjepanI typed startx10:14
HappyFoolpistol: and another line10:14
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stjepanit works10:15
HappyFoolstjepan: great10:15
stjepanbut fonts in gtk programs are larger10:15
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stjepanand text in terminal is grey10:15
stjepanbut it was black10:15
stjepan:(10:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone have any idea why teamspeak works on the kubuntu side of things and not ubuntu?10:15
stjepanthat is not so great10:15
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stjepan:(10:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYdosen't even show in the menu10:15
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carycan anyone help me understand a little bit of syntax?10:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYi know there is no diffrence between the 2 but some how it seems to be diffrent10:16
HappyFoolcary: in what language?10:17
crimsunjedipottsy: are you using default ubuntu?10:17
crimsunjedipottsy: i.e., not alsa-source from hoary/universe10:17
lukus001hey, i've just found out that cause i have amd64 build of ubuntu most of the application wont work and i need to install it via chroot for 32bit... but when i run synaptic32 bit it wont let me install realplayer properly..10:17
jedipottsydefault ubuntu off disc10:17
caryHappyFool, in linux. im trying to compile an ubuntu kernel and i dont knwo all the stuff on the HowTo10:17
caryHappyFool, the line is make-kpkg --initrd --stem linux --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image10:17
jedipottsysound works fine in FC10:17
caryHappyFool, but ...?10:18
HappyFoolcary: hmm, eek10:18
jedipottsyjust have to go into alsamixer and enable a button10:18
HappyFoolcary: but?10:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYbrb10:18
caryHappyFool, hah. nice. ..the but is me not knowing what the hell that means10:18
caryi get the general jist10:18
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HappyFoolcary: that is something you need to type in a terminal window10:18
crimsunjedipottsy: you need the newer alsa-driver10:18
crimsunjedipottsy: I can walk you through the instructions10:18
crimsunjedipottsy: /join #alsa10:18
HappyFoolcary: Applications -> System tools -> Terminal10:19
jedipottsy#alsa10:19
caryHappyFool, i know that. but the part where it says "kernel_image" ..do i need to replace that with the kernel imagine im trying to create?10:19
HappyFoolcary: i don't think so10:19
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txero33does anyone know how to view the sound settings in Ubuntu?10:19
HappyFoolcary: i think make-kpkg can make different sorts of things, including module packages10:19
vl0mHow do I change this lame Gnome Footprint logo on my Menu button?10:19
pepsiany suggestions on a tv tuner card?10:19
crimsuntxero33: at what verbosity?10:19
vl0mI want a better icon10:19
caryHappyFool, i have already applied patches to the kernel file (which i cant find, i think) but iwas helped along by 'pfp' and so now i am a outch lost10:19
crimsuntxero33: the lowest human-sensible format is the output from amixer10:20
txero33crimsun, all im trying to do is set up my sound card10:20
txero33crimsun, i think its not installed corectly10:20
crimsuntxero33: what sound card?10:20
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HappyFoolcary: i'm afraid i don't know what the 'kernel file' is10:20
txero33crimsun,  not so sure this is a foreign computer to me10:21
jedipottsytxero33, in terminal alsamixergui10:21
txero33crimsun, its a new laptop i got10:21
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crimsuntxero33: ok, please paste the output from ,,lspci -v'' onto the paste web site noted in the topic10:21
caryHappyFool, well..i dont really knwo what all iam talking about. i had everything set up to compile a new kernel and i had patched the kernel source (?) and tried to compile it but there was an error at the end. im just trying to get back to whree i was.10:21
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HappyFoolcary: was it perhaps in /usr/src/linux-<something>' ?10:22
HappyFoolcary: i presume you are doing all of this for a good reason, like unusual hardware?10:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYuggh this is driving me buggy10:23
caryHappyFool, i thought it was but i have tracked it down to being in ~/kernel. yeah i have a powrbook and hter eare patches i need to make it work just right. eg my sound is janked up and the temp gauge for the processor doesnt work exactly right.10:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone here using teamspeak?10:23
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HappyFoolcary: so you've found it?10:24
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caryHappyFool, yeah, but now comes the fun part of figuring out what to do. ill try that comman di pasted earlier in this directory. i think the error last time was i didnt have root access. i certainly do now.10:24
peterretiefhey all, how do I set up a windows printer using wine - can it be done lexmark Z61210:25
HappyFoolcary: ok, good luck10:25
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caryHappyFool, do you knwo about the revision flag?10:25
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caryHappyFool, it is saying when i try that command that the revision listed is different than one in the debian changelog so it haulted10:25
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HappyFoolcary: take a look at 'man make-kpkg'10:26
caryHappyFool, oh yeah, man pages. thanks10:26
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pistolHappyFool, still no joy - tried to install java again and still get the same error :( I have posted my latest sources.list in pastebin10:26
CrustyPunkHey, I'm having a bit of a problem emptying my trash... I can't. It tells me that I don't have permission to modify the parent folder of the stuff that's in it10:26
HappyFoolcary: it suggests removing the 'debian/official' file and running 'make-kpkg clean'10:27
HappyFoolpistol: ok, just a mo10:27
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cjsanyone know how i can control cpu throttling? ubuntu doesn't seem to be doing it on its own10:27
HappyFoolpistol: you've added ftp.tug.org back10:28
HappyFoolpistol: unless you mis-pasted or something10:28
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pistolHappyFool, yeah - it couldn't find sun-j2re otherwise10:28
quamcjs, it's either acpi or apci, i can't remember which acronym is correct10:29
kakaltog'morning all10:29
kakalto:)10:29
quamcjs: it does all the laptop shit10:29
HappyFoolpistol: did you try these: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories ?10:29
pistolHappyFool, yep10:29
cjsquam: yeah but it isnt doing it automatically10:29
pistolHappyFool, still count find it after uncommenting those lines10:29
quamdo you have it setup for throttling?10:29
pistol*couldn't10:29
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flodinehow do i remove all kubuntu10:30
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quamwhen i boot, the shit says that my processor is known _not_ to support throttling, yet windows does it fine :P10:30
HappyFoolpistol: you added the 'ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net lines ?10:30
HappyFoolpistol if that does not work, i suggest reading this page: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java10:30
HappyFoolpistol: i have not installed java myself10:30
caryHappyFool, doing that now. good timing10:30
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flodinehelp how do i remove all kubuntu10:31
FlickieHi could anyone help me please?10:31
HappyFoolpistol: alternatively, if you are patient, Seveas knows how to do this; he will probably be online again tomorrow10:31
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Flickiecant get my speedtouch modem working :'(10:31
caryHappyFool, woohoo! i think im finally compiling again. and root this time. thanks for the help10:32
HappyFoolflodine: do you want to remove all of ubuntu and kubuntu ?10:32
HappyFoolcary: no problem10:32
peterretiefIs it possible to set up window centric hardware using wine?10:32
cjsquam: not sure how to set it up for throttling10:32
pistolHappyFool, thank you very much again - it is installing now without complaining about libc6 versions - i didnt notice the backport lines so that seems to have fixed it for me10:32
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pistolHappyFool, again - thanks for your patience with such a newbie :)10:32
flodineno just kubuntu10:32
Flickiei ned my modem working heh10:32
HappyFoolpistol: ok, good. please be aware that not everyone approves of backports -- apparently it can break your system. I do not use it myself.10:33
quamcjs: neither am i, im sorry i even answered you :P blind trying to lead the blind i guess :P next time if i dont know wtf im talking about, i won't answer :P10:33
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pistolHappyFool, yeah - i'm not really a big fan of java either but most apps from the starter guide gave me the libc6 dependency error so i used java as an example10:33
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flodineHappyFool just want to remove Kubuntu10:34
flodineis there a way10:34
HappyFoolflodine: probably, but i'm afraid i don't know what it is10:35
netsniperflodine, "sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop"10:35
Flickieanyone had probleems with speedtouch modems?10:35
netsniper:-)10:35
netsniperAnyone know how to make Xorg detect if a TV is active, and not use TV-Out if it is not plugged in?10:35
netsniperI have defined a "RightOf" screen, but I don't want my mouse to fall of the edge when the TV is not in use!10:36
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HeManHi! Anyone else having problem with the linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 v 2.6.11.94-1.2 and suspend to ram? (Yepp, using breezy)10:36
quamcjs: check out the wiki on ubuntu.com, search for acpi and throttling. might be something there that can help10:37
netsniperHeMan, i think you should wait until Breezy is testing, in August10:37
HappyFoolpistol: backports is probably ok. however, if things break mysteriously after you do an 'apt-get update', at least you know a possible reason10:37
cjswell.. powernowd reports it's aggressively monitoring the cpu power state.. but cat the throttling file and it shows no change in status10:37
cjsweird10:37
HeMannetsniper: well, yes, but 2.6.11 works fine, and i'd like to help if i can10:39
Flickie:'(10:39
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Flickiewhen i try to run the speedtouchconf.sh it says gcc is missing10:43
lpkHow can i launch a shellscript after my window manager has launched?10:43
SeveasOkay, someone said my name10:43
Seveaswho is guilty?10:43
UBUNTUcan someone help me how to change my nickname10:43
crimsunUBUNTU: /nick newnick10:43
HappyFoolSeveas: me10:43
SeveasUBUNTU, type /nick whatyouwantasanickname10:43
SeveasHappyFool, hi :)10:43
UBUNTUtnx crimson10:44
Seveaswazzaaaaaaaaaaaap!?10:44
HappyFoolSeveas: pistol is trying to install java, but he ended up using backports10:44
SeveasHappyFool, that's ok10:44
HappyFoolSeveas: hi ;)10:44
Seveasjava in backports is a make-jpkg deb10:44
HappyFoolSeveas: i can't remember your magic method10:44
HappyFoolok, cool10:44
cjsokay so powernowd is clearly running, but i cant seem to determine what level it currently has the processor running at10:44
SeveasHappyFool: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 10:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone have any idea why a program will run in kde but not gnome?10:44
Seveasbut the backports java does that10:44
HappyFoolSeveas: ok, cool, i'll put that in a file somewhere ;)10:44
Seveascjs, are you using gnome?10:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYeven though the install is for both?10:45
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dunjahello, how can i get my new ubuntu install to play m4a's form my ipod?10:45
Seveasdunja: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats10:46
Seveasthat page explains all about that10:46
carySeveas, hey! hows it going10:46
dunjathanks i'll check it out10:46
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Seveashey, quite well. I am writing an article, so kinda busy10:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's weard it's trying to run it but nothings poping up10:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYand there are no zombie programs10:47
carySeveas, i was just saying hey for now. good luck with the article10:47
cjsSeveas, yep.10:47
Seveascjs rightclick on the panel, select add to panel10:47
Seveasfrom the list that pops up, choose "CPU Frequency monitor"10:47
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Seveasfrom the list that pops up, choose "CPU Frequency scaling monitor"10:48
heienHi all... anyone here?10:48
pistolheien, nope10:48
pistolheien, :)10:48
Seveasheien, no, there's absolutely no one in here10:48
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drigloionly 514 of us :) hi10:48
pistollol10:48
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heienCould anyone be that kind to help me getting my Sis SI7012 on-board soundcard up'n'running?10:48
cjsseveas: you're a lifesaver10:49
Seveasi know ;)10:49
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ivanoxhow do I create a symlink?10:50
jfk303what can play avi in ubuntu10:50
Quest-MasterVLC10:50
Quest-MasterMPlayer10:50
Quest-MasterGXine10:50
pistolivanox, ln -s <target> <name>10:51
ivanoxthanks alot pistol  :)10:51
pistolivanox, glad i can help with something10:51
heienAnyone who can help me fixing my sound card? :P pls10:51
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cjsstill eaiting my battery alive, even at 798mhz :D10:51
drigloiheien, what does "lsmod | grep snd-intel8x0" say?10:52
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jedipottsy#alsa10:52
pistolheien, you may have to mute one of the IEC958 channels10:52
heiennothing drigloi10:52
heienPistol, how?10:52
HappyFooldrigloi: maybe you meant snd_ ? (all my snd modules are snd_ , not snd-)10:52
Spugis it possible to resize partitions after installing ubuntu without losing info on it? using a live cd or whatever?10:52
jfk303How can I connect to the bear share network in ubuntu?10:53
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drigloiHappyFool, I looked at alsa-project.org10:53
cjssaveas: okay, now tell me how i can get thunderbird to send an echo to my mail LED and you're hired. :)10:53
drigloiHappyFool, but you're right10:53
Ubuntucool is ubuntu it is not working so good on a celeron 466 Mhz 64 mb ram10:53
pistolheien, firstly do you get any error messages about your card or are you sure the sound modules are loaded?10:53
drigloiheien, lsmod | grep snd_intel8x010:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYthere is no diffrence between kde and ubuntu right?10:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYthere one and the same?10:54
pistolheien, i'd do what what drigloi says before listening to me :)10:54
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, you mean between kubuntu and ubuntu :)10:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea10:54
LinuxJonesUbuntu, you might want to use xfce or icewm rather than gnome or kde on that old system you have.10:54
Seveasthe differerence there is only a different set of packages installed by default10:54
drigloiheien, right10:54
heiendrigloi, in a pm10:54
heienPistol, ok, thx anyway :)10:55
drigloiheien, modules are correct10:55
crimsunit's a mixer setting. I've closed several bug reports about it.10:55
heienokay, great :)10:55
heienIt just wont spit out any sound... :( none of the players10:55
Ubuntu? and that is linuxjones i,m a newby on ubuntu or any kind of linux im using it as a server10:56
crimsunheien: see what I said in #alsa10:56
drigloiheien, try to play with the Volume Control under Applications/Sound and Video10:56
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richardhey- when i do #iwconfig ath0 up i get an error10:56
richardpentm1700:/home/steve# iwconfig ath0 up10:56
richardError : unrecognised wireless request "up"10:56
richardcan anyone help?10:57
drigloior with alsamixer in the Gnome-Terminal10:57
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richardor is it a lost cause?10:57
LinuxJonesUbuntu, ohhh I see. I just assume that most folks run Ubuntu as a desktop machine :)10:57
drigloiheien, make sure that volume is not muted on channel Master, PCM10:57
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richardpentm1700:/home/steve# iwconfig ath0 up10:57
richardError : unrecognised wireless request "up"10:57
richardwhat should i do?10:58
hondjehey neat, gvm automounted my brothers lyra10:58
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Ubuntuhow can i use xfce icewm linuxjones10:58
heienDrigloi, all is maxed, and nothing is muted10:58
Seveasrichard, ifconfig ath0 up10:58
richardd'oh!!!!10:58
drigloiheien, in alsamixer?10:58
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heiendrigloi, alsamixer wont open :/, i just tried the regular one in sound and video10:59
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LinuxJonesUbuntu, maybe you should have a look at them first >> http://www.xfce.org is excellent and it's very easily installable in Ubuntu.11:00
drigloiheien, how do you mean "won't open"?11:00
heiendrigloi, nvm, im in now :P11:00
heienmaster and pcm are 100%11:00
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drigloiand you don't see any boxed "MM" under them?11:01
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heiennop.11:01
HappyFoolUbuntu: note that window managers and so on aren't usually necessary for servers11:01
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drigloipistol, your turn :)11:01
HappyFoolheien: have you joined #alsa as crimsun suggested (sorry to butt in, drigloi)11:01
Ughit's too many :)11:02
pistolheien, try muting all "IEC958 C" channels11:02
Ubuntutnx linuxjones i will check it now ok happyfool11:02
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crimsunheien only needs to mute IEC958 and IEC958 Capture Monitor. The latter is the critical one.11:02
heienyes, now it works..thx guys :d11:03
Ughhmm....jest jakis polak? Are you polish guy here? :] 11:03
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pistolcrimsun, okay - i couldnt remember which one it was :/11:03
pistolheien, rock on :)11:03
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[Phaedrus] whats a good development application to use in Linux for an application that requires a pretty interface?11:03
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pistol[Phaedrus] , gtk, Qt or even python - depends really11:04
HappyFool[Phaedrus] : maybe glade?11:04
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[Phaedrus] wel, there is this application written in VB (I know, woe unto me!!!), that i have to convert into something else to make it run in linux11:05
heienis there a xmms script for x-chat? ;P11:05
pistol[Phaedrus] , REALbasic is your friend :)11:05
[Phaedrus] i have been looking into that pistol11:05
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[Phaedrus] but i would so wish that i could deviate a bit from the bulky code environment11:06
pistol[Phaedrus] , i've never used it but apparently it is quite compatible with VB - hopefully no "goto"s are allowed though ;)11:06
HappyFool[Phaedrus] : python is a good language, imo, and it i believe it works with glade (glade is a gui designer)11:06
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drigloidoes anybody here has issues with the hal/dbus system in Hoary?11:07
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bl4cktoneHey guys,  I can't seem to get sound comming from my flash player in firefox any ideas?11:07
[Phaedrus] HappyFool: i am all for python.. love that language.. i'll check that.. thanks11:07
drigloiI mean CDs, pendrives not automounting11:07
drigloibl4cktone, have you checked ubuntuguide.org?11:08
drigloibl4cktone, there's a section about sound config there11:08
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bl4cktonedrigloi I'll check it11:08
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jedipottsyne1 know how to get the linux touchpad to work?11:10
pistolgot to go guys - thanks to all that helped11:10
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bl4cktonedrigloi: that would be under hardware right? think I remember something there now but having trouble finding it11:11
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narchbl4cktone: what is most likely happening, is that you are running a sound daemon (esd, or artsd) and it is locking access to the sound hardware11:12
drigloibl4cktone, http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly11:13
narchflashplayer and java both use oss access, and will often be blocked by esd/arts11:13
bl4cktonedrigloi sweet thanks man I'm on it11:13
narchsadly, dmix doesn't always work, either :/11:14
Ubuntulinuxjones i showed the site u gave me but what type of xfce or icewm should i download?11:14
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drigloidoes anybody has dbus-1 issues described in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?threadid=27087?11:14
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drigloiI'd like to know if there's a solution or work on it...11:15
ompaulubuntu u using the live CD?11:16
Ubuntuno11:16
Ubuntuinstall11:16
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LinuxJonesUbuntu, xfce is a graphical desktop manager which uses alot less system resources than say gnome or kde.11:17
dunja is there any way to play m4a's from ipod in ubuntu? :( i tried everything11:17
GNULinuxercan anybody tell me how to use the gnome-bt client?11:17
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crimsundunja: you can use jHymn or pymusique11:17
crimsunpersonally jHymn is more convenient for my usage patterns11:18
dunjawhere can i get them? can i apt-get them from universe? apt-get install jhymn?11:18
LinuxJonesdunja, dunno if this helps >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//IPodHowto11:18
BROKEN_LADDERCAN Anyone recommend a video player to use in ubuntu, which supports playing direct from dvd, as well as theora.11:18
GNULinuxerBROKEN_LADDER> MPlayer11:19
arnonymi updated my system to 2.6.12 today and now the inputs (mic, line in) of my audigy (emu10k1) soundcard are just silent. any tips?11:19
GNULinuxerarnonym> how did you update the kernel?11:19
UbuntuLINUXJONES: ok a friend of my installed ubuntu for me and i ques he installed a littlle version11:19
arnonymGNULinuxer: i used make-kpkg11:20
GNULinuxerarnonym> aaaah11:20
GNULinuxerarnonym> i did that too11:20
Ubuntulinuxjones: because i have slow pc11:20
LinuxJonesUbuntu, he probably did a custom install for a server, which only uses console access.11:20
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arnonymGNULinuxer: and do you have a audigy too?11:21
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GNULinuxerarnonym> no11:21
drigloibl4cktone, success?11:21
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bl4cktonethanks for the sound help now you can play duck hunt also http://www.johnnyslack.com/duckhunt/11:21
bl4cktonelol11:21
bl4cktoneall the sounds work now11:21
Ubuntuis that good linuxjones i have the learn u know?11:22
drigloibl4cktone, well done!11:22
Ubuntuthat also with the commands linuxjones11:22
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arnonymGNULinuxer: why did you ask?11:23
bl4cktonedrigloi I was having trouble with sound on tuxracer think that will fix it also?11:23
GNULinuxerarnonym> i thought you got the kernel from a repo ... so i wanted to know the name of the repo11:24
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LinuxJonesUbuntu, what language do you speak ?11:24
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drigloibl4cktone, You'll tell :)11:24
bl4cktoneyep it works now11:24
arnonymGNULinuxer: ic. i did not find a apt-get source too11:24
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Ubuntulinuxjones im speak dutch11:25
bl4cktonedrigloi it's working great except for some reason my penguin keeps turning left11:25
jedipottsyne1 know how to get wacom thing installed?11:26
ninwaWhat's a good GUI cron manager?11:26
drigloibl4cktone, have you gave beer to him?11:27
LinuxJonesUbuntu, there is a dutch speaking Ubuntu channel if you find it easier to get rolling in your native language. #ubuntu-nl11:27
LinuxJonesninwa, gcron11:27
Ubuntuthx linuxjones11:27
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LinuxJonesUbuntu, :)11:28
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ninwaLinuxJones: Groovy, thankya.11:28
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bl4cktonedrigloi learning linux has brought me to drinking but in my drunken maddness I doubt I've given him any11:28
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BROKEN_LADDERwhat the hell does this mean?:  mplayer-586: Depends: libavcodeccvs (>= 2:20050417-0.0) but it is not going to be installed11:28
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BROKEN_LADDERwhy isn't it going to be installed ?11:29
Seveasbl4cktone, omg, DUCK HUNT!11:29
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LinuxJonesBROKEN_LADDER, it has broken dependencies11:29
arnonymBROKEN_LADDER: because it is not available. broken dependencies11:29
BROKEN_LADDERwhy doesn't it install them?!11:29
drigloibl4cktone, hasn't your left cursor key sticked then :)?11:29
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zenroxwhare does ubuntu store this file /proc/sys/dev/sensors/ casue it done exist and lm-sensors or loaded and running11:29
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LinuxJonesBROKEN_LADDER, probably because it isn't available11:30
bl4cktonedrigloi nope I think it makes him turn left evenmore when I have it down11:30
bl4cktoneseveas yeah man brings back memories11:30
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zenroxi am trying to get a xchat script worken but cant if that dir dont exist in thaty spot11:31
zenroxtrying to get it to display my cpu temp11:31
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Burritodoes anybody speak spanish?11:33
jedipottsyne1 got wacom running with ubunut?11:34
jedipottsyubuntu*11:34
zenroxBurrito,  ya in #ubuntu-es11:34
zenrox??11:34
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BROKEN_LADDERi cannot kill gxine11:36
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BROKEN_LADDERthis happened yesterday too..i couldn't kill a process.11:36
narchhmmm11:36
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carySeveas, still around for a quick question?11:36
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BROKEN_LADDER1000     10030  0.8  2.7 120404 27156 ?        D    14:34   0:01 gxine11:36
Seveascary, yep11:36
caryawesome11:36
carySeveas, in the kernel HowTo its telling me about files called 'vmlinuz' etc. i cant find these files...is it a grub thing? after installing the kernel what should i be doing as a PPC user?11:36
BROKEN_LADDER sudo kill -9 1003011:37
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BROKEN_LADDERWHAT do i do when kill -9 doesn't even work?11:37
Seveascary, how exactly did you build the kernel, with make-kpkg?11:37
carySeveas, yes11:37
Seveascary, awesome11:37
Seveasthen you got a .deb file which you installed, right?11:37
caryyeah11:37
LinuxJonesBROKEN_LADDER, the D indicates that the process is locked by the kernel. It might go away by itself or a re-boot will make it go away.11:38
cary(and i was acutally root this time in compiling! woohoo!)11:38
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Seveascary, well, you're set then. The scripts inside that debfile will have updated /boot/grub/menu.lst to contain the new kernel too11:38
BROKEN_LADDERwhy can't i unlock it?11:38
BROKEN_LADDERand kill it.11:38
LinuxJonesBROKEN_LADDER, because the kernel won't let you11:38
BROKEN_LADDERwhy not?11:38
carySeveas, but it thgouth that since i am PPC ubuntu i dont have grub11:38
BROKEN_LADDERit's my kernel, i should be able to tell it to do whatever i want.11:38
SeveasBROKEN_LADDER, probably it's in some uninterruptible system call...11:39
Seveascary, hmm, right11:39
BROKEN_LADDERoh jesus.11:39
caryi have no dir's in my /boot11:39
Seveaswell, it might have updated yaboot as well, i suspect it has :)11:39
caryso shoudl i roll the dice and reboot into the new kernel?11:39
SeveasBut since i know nothing about yabout, I cannot guarantee it11:39
caryshould i in fact back up my boot image dillys like the howto says?11:39
Seveascary, you should, it won't have removed the old kernel :)11:39
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carySeveas, awesome. here goes!11:40
Seveascary, just out of curiousity do ls -al /boot11:40
carySeveas, is there a command line way to reboot11:40
Seveasand paste the output on paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:40
caryright nwo?11:40
Seveasyes :)11:40
bwlangBROKEN_LADDER: i've had that problem before too... it's a bummer.  buggy software11:40
Seveascary, the command to reboot is very simple: reboot11:40
bwlangcary: shutdown -r now also works11:41
caryhah11:41
carywhat is that. the -r ...reboot?11:41
Seveasyes11:41
Seveasreboot actually invokes that iirc11:41
carySeveas, pasted11:41
carySeveas, what is iirc?11:42
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Seveasif i remember correctly11:42
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Seveascary, and it looks good there in /boot11:42
Seveastry rebooting :)11:42
carybrb!11:42
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nilslHi. I get a: "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH" when I try to install any application.11:44
nilslI just installed Ubuntu and uh... What C-compiler do I need?11:44
Spuggcc11:44
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zevernilsl gcc11:44
Spugsudo apt-get install gcc11:44
Jimbobnilsl: "sudo apt-get install build-essentials"11:44
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Seveasbuild-essential that is11:45
nilslRight.11:45
HablandocontigoHow do I set up my video capture device?11:45
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nilslSeem to work.11:45
nilsl:-)11:45
nilslThx.11:45
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Codeman7hey, can anyone here help me set my Palm m515 up on Ubuntu11:47
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cary-=[11:47
caryput it this way..im booted into os x11:47
jedipottsyhow can i share my printer with a windows pc, connected via lan?11:47
caryseveas, gave some error11:47
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caryseveas, -=[11:48
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nilslThat last one: build-essential... Will that take some time?11:49
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nilslWaiting on it for a while now.11:49
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ompaulnilsl, on dialup yes on dsl not so long11:50
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dunjasorry to keep nagging with the same thing, but i'm about ready to pull my hair out trying to get anything to play m4a's11:50
ompaulnilsl, it should give you some idea of what has been done and what is left11:50
xbalanquehi, does anybody knows where to find the "esddsp" program -- a program that makes OSS programs use ESD ?11:51
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xbalanque(i couldn't find it in any package in Ubuntu)11:51
caryseveas, i have to go but as of now my linux is toasted -=[11:52
nilslompaul: Okay. How long for DSL would you say?11:52
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ompaulnilsl, depends on the dsl11:52
quami downloaded a sysinfo script for x-chat and when i run it, it thinks im using debian 3.1 :P11:52
abaddon80I'm currently using the prism54 driver, but I'd like to get WPA working, and I heard that the hostap driver (and firmware) supports it.  I've downloaded hostap-source, compiled, and installed the module, but I'm having difficulty getting it to bring up the interface.  can anyone help?11:52
ompaulnilsl, but just a sec till we size it - I take it you are using synaptic11:52
superkittycan anyone give me a hand setting up a shared printer?11:52
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nilslompaul: Okay.11:53
concept10xbalanque, have you tried to change that in multimedia selections?11:53
Codeman7Ok so I have a device on a USB port... how do I find out what the /dev entry for that port is?11:53
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draskoI can not see /dev/scsi in my system, although I see my usb flash is readed by dmsg... What's wrong, how to mount flash?11:53
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ficocJoin #ubuntu-de11:53
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concept10Codeman7, what kind of device?11:54
xbalanqueconcept10, thanks Concenpt, google helped me, apparently it is in the esound-clients package11:54
xbalanqueconcept10, I'm insatlling it now, lets see ... :)11:54
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Codeman7concept10: a Palm Pilot11:54
LokeDKWhat can I use to burn .cue/.bin files with?11:54
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SeveasLokeDK, i though k3b could handle these11:55
Seveasif not, use bchunk to convert them into an .iso11:55
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concept10Codeman7, unplug the Palm and in a terminal type in tail -f /var/log/messages  watch that it should tell you11:55
nilslNow I get this: "configure: error: gFTP needs GLIB 1.2.3 or higher".11:56
Seveasnilsl, why are you compiling gftp manually?11:56
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Seveasinstead of using the gftp package provided by Ubuntu?11:56
nilslSeveas: Heh, I didn't find that one.11:56
Seveasnilsl, well, there is one :)11:57
xbalanqueLokeDK, k3b to burn directly. There is also a converter to ISO11:57
nilslSeveas: I saw a .deb-file, but that one didn't work.11:57
nilslSeveas: Right, I'll search for that one, then. Thx.11:57
LokeDKSo k3b supports .bin/.cue?11:57
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superkittyhow do i find the host for a network printer?11:57
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xbalanqueLokeDK, don't remember the name though :(11:57
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CuriosMacHowdy all11:57
Seveasnilsl, you should use apt-get or synaptic to find it11:57
ompaulnilsl, emm not having much luck - do this start a terminal and prepare the command line ; 'sudo apt-get install build-essentials' ; it will tell you what is left and estimate what has to be done ; then stop synaptic11:57
Seveasnilsl, and enable synaptic11:57
xbalanqueLokeDK, I used it before k3b11:57
Seveasnilsl: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:57
LokeDKoh hmm.. I'll give k3b a try11:57
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xbalanqueLokeDK, good luck11:58
LokeDKthanks11:58
LokeDK:)11:58
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Seveasompaul, what do you mean..?11:59
superkittyhow do i find the host for a network printer?11:59
shaun_I just installed Hoary Hedgehog and I am trying to figure out how to install video codecs such as AVI and MPG.11:59
nilslAh, synaptic rules. :-D11:59
concept10superkitty, did you try to use the printer utility?11:59
Seveasshaun_: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats11:59
superkittyyes11:59
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nilsl2 seconds did that take. :-)11:59

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