[12:00] <ivoks> kong0: problems? :)
[12:00] <kong0> Ivoke? are you here?
[12:00] <kong0> ahh
[12:00] <ivoks> ivoke :)
[12:00] <kong0> well im trying to open an avi file with the newly installed mplayer and it kind of locks...
[12:01] <ivoks> kong0: ok
[12:01] <kong0> i cant even open mp3 files...
[12:01] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, sudo / all the menu entries want *your* password
[12:01] <ivoks> kong0: start mplayer without any files, just run it
[12:02] <Seveas> LokeDK, you have to install php4-cli for command-line php
[12:02] <ThE__OnE> ahh ok, thx guys you been of great help
[12:02] <ThE__OnE> good community
[12:02] <ivoks> kong0: did you?
[12:02] <bl4cktone> hey guys I just installed ubuntu everything is great except bluetooth
[12:02] <LokeDK> Seveas, Oh thx
[12:03] <glyne> hello all
[12:03] <bl4cktone> I've got a bluetooth Intellimouse,  perhaps one of you can point me in the right direction?
[12:04] <glyne> when will be solved the xkb problem on breezy please
[12:04] <ivoks> glyne: don't use breezy, doh...
[12:05] <ivoks> should there be big neon sign telling "breezy is broken, under heavy development, don't use it, it will not work!"?
[12:05] <Seveas> glyne, Breezy is not supported in here
[12:05] <Seveas> and we cannot tell when things will be solved
[12:05] <nalioth> ivoks: you will get 'social diseases' and become malodorous! if used
[12:06] <nalioth> ivoks: you forgot that part
[12:06] <ivoks> :)
[12:06] <ivoks> glyne: best thing for you is to get back to hoary
[12:06] <Seveas> bl4cktone, I think searching google/the forums will help you better bl4cktone
[12:06] <bl4cktone> thanks seveas
[12:07] <Seveas> hmm
[12:09] <Seveas> *slurp* aaaah thanks!
[12:09] <XandriX> np
[12:09] <sunnan> hi, does anyone know where I can find an up-to-date guide on how to use XFree86 with an external screen on an iBook running hoary? mirror or double-head, either is fine (guess double-head would be better)
[12:09] <XandriX> sunnan, hehe i ahve a double head xorg config for nvidia drivers ud haveto modd it a bit
[12:10] <sunnan> xandrix: I'd be interested in looking at it, though I've got a radeon.
[12:10] <Seveas> sunnan, XFree86 on hoary is not supported
[12:10] <XandriX> sunnan, u jsut haveto change a couple o options
[12:10] <XandriX> Seveas, he ment xorg lol
[12:10] <sunnan> seveas: oh, I didn't know that.
[12:11] <Seveas> sunnan, Hoary uses X.org
[12:11] <sunnan> I used xorg but I switched back to (the old, pre-licence change version) of xfree86 because I had so many weird color issues with xorg
[12:11] <ironmc> What command do I use to install a .deb file i.e. alsaplayer.deb
[12:11] <XandriX> sunnan, ehh thats like not normal
[12:11] <Seveas> ironmc, dpkg -i <debfile>
[12:11] <sunnan> ironmc: dpkg -i alsaplayer.deb
[12:11] <ironmc> thx
[12:12] <sunnan> I used to run warty before hoary and xorg came along
[12:12] <Seveas> ironmc, alsaplayer is available from the repositories too...
[12:12] <Seveas> use that one instead of a manually downloaded one
[12:12] <XandriX> sunnan, i cant ehlp you tha tmuch cuz my config is for xorg ...
[12:12] <Seveas> XandriX, it seems like your spacebar is doing weird things ;)
[12:13] <XandriX> Seveas, no thats jsut my hangover
[12:13] <XandriX> *just argg
[12:13] <Seveas> ah ok
[12:14] <XandriX> lol
[12:14] <Seveas> brb
[12:17] <lsuactiafner> anyone know if hardware temperature sensors work yet on asus A8N deluxe motherboards?
[12:18] <XandriX> lsuactiafner, go cehckout supported in lmsensors
[12:19] <lsuactiafner> heh effort
[12:20] <lsuactiafner> pc cant keep up anymore
[12:20] <lsuactiafner> load average: 2.68, 1.83, 1.80
[12:20] <XandriX> wth
[12:20] <XandriX> how did tha thappen
[12:20] <TokenBad> is there some delay on between files
[12:20] <TokenBad> guy said he download files
[12:21] <TokenBad> but there was a long delay between files
[12:23] <ThE__OnE> irssi-text is already the newest version.
[12:23] <ThE__OnE> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:23] <ThE__OnE> what should i pick?
[12:23] <lsuactiafner> XandriX : try nice -n -15 make -j 2
[12:23] <XandriX> ??
[12:23] <lsuactiafner> making a kernel.
[12:24] <XandriX> a ok
[12:24] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, pick for what?
[12:24] <ThE__OnE> installing irssi
[12:24] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, that output says that irssi is already installed :)
[12:25] <ThE__OnE> it is?
[12:25] <ThE__OnE> its not on my inter tab
[12:25] <ThE__OnE> internet
[12:25] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, it's a console application
[12:25] <Seveas> so it's not in the menu
[12:25] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, just open a terminal and type irssi
[12:25] <ThE__OnE> oh
[12:25] <lsuactiafner> load average: 8.57, 6.66, 4.02
[12:25] <lsuactiafner> lol
[12:25] <blink> anyone knows how to change deafult language in aterm in ubuntu?
[12:25] <lsuactiafner> load average: 8.57, 6.66, 4.02
[12:26] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, omfg what are you doing??
[12:26] <virtuald> ctrl-alt-fx to get to console from x stopped working, what should i check? B] 
[12:26] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : as i said nice -n 15 make -j 2 but nice -n -20 mencoder also
[12:26] <Seveas> ah :)
[12:26] <squinn> Ubuntu.com question.
[12:26] <lsuactiafner> but its multitasking well..
[12:26] <Seveas> and what are you making?
[12:26] <squinn> How do I register for an account on the wiki?
[12:27] <lsuactiafner> can still irc ect
[12:27] <lsuactiafner> making a kernel
[12:27] <blink> is anyone using aterm and can help me?
[12:27] <lsuactiafner> 2.6.12 is out
[12:27] <Seveas> squinn, register on te main ubuntu site
[12:27] <Seveas> and use the login you get there to login on the wiki
[12:27] <lsuactiafner> got it earlier just as it was released
[12:27] <squinn> Ah, right.
[12:27] <squinn> Thanks.
[12:27] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, it is?
[12:27] <Seveas> cool
[12:27] <squinn> Question, Seveas.
[12:27] <squinn> Can I change my username after registration?
[12:28] <Seveas> squinn, no
[12:28] <lsuactiafner> i got this 6th sense to check kernel.org just as a new release is made
[12:28] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, you can also use the rss feed of kernel.org ;)
[12:29] <lsuactiafner> load average: 10.75, 8.33, 5.14
[12:29] <lsuactiafner> am on a dailup
[12:29] <lsuactiafner> heh making modules now.. should be done soon
[12:29] <lsuactiafner> next compile will be quick, ccache. got to add something else
[12:30] <squinn> Ah, okay.
[12:30] <dennis_> can someone tell me how to check system log on Ubuntu?
[12:30] <lsuactiafner> 12.11, 9.63, 5.96
[12:31] <lsuactiafner> dennis_ : /var/log/syslog and messages
[12:31] <Frederick> im on a bad situation here ubuntu doesnt allow me to remove grub, I want get rid of it and use only windows but it doest loads without ubuntu now
[12:31] <munki> dennis_ , it's in /var/log/syslog
[12:32] <lsuactiafner> Frederick : just make windows install its own boot loader, tho not sure how windows works
[12:32] <squinn> Seveas, never mind that, I even used my middle initial, lol
[12:32] <r0d> Frederick,  why would you want windows to control booting?
[12:32] <dennis_> thanks
[12:32] <lsuactiafner> ubuntu will remove grub ect.. but windows should then install its own bootloader
[12:33] <lsuactiafner> yay compile done
[12:33] <lsuactiafner> i think my room got 1C warmer under that load
[12:33] <Seveas> Frederick, if you boot to windows you can run fdisk /mbr to restore the windows boot manager
[12:33] <thiago_> hello!!!!!!!!!!
[12:33] <r0d> Seveas,  recovery console is faster
[12:33] <Seveas> goodbye
[12:34] <thiago_> lll
[12:34] <Frederick> Seveas ive done it and nothing chasnged I keep having grub or a loop where pc reports it couldnt boot
[12:34] <Seveas> hmm
[12:34] <Frederick> im booted on windows
[12:34] <Seveas> ohno, it's Burgundavia
[12:34] <Seveas> duck
[12:34] <Frederick> but I have grub stuck there
[12:34] <r0d> Frederick,  recovery console man. im telling your. i do it all the time
[12:34] <r0d> *you
[12:35] <Burgundavia> Seveas, right
[12:35] <Burgundavia> Seveas, network manager has a fun bug on my system. It makes it think my own system is a name server
[12:35] <r0d> theirs 'fixmbr' and 'fixboot'
[12:35] <Frederick> r0d boot windows with f8 and?
[12:35] <lsuactiafner> ccache rocks
[12:35] <r0d> Frederick,  you can w/ the cd
[12:35] <Frederick> r0d I boot the cd and?
[12:35] <r0d> Frederick, stick it in and when you get prompt to install or use recovery console. u choose it
[12:36] <Frederick> recovery console?
[12:36] <r0d> yea you type 'r'
[12:36] <Frederick> Ive ran it already
[12:36] <r0d> yes
[12:36] <Frederick> and grub still there
[12:36] <r0d> 'fixmbr' and 'fixboot'?
[12:36] <Frederick> Do I need to run it?
[12:36] <r0d> it shouldnt after that.
[12:36] <Frederick> does win2k offer such features?
[12:36] <r0d> those programs, ys
[12:37] <r0d> yes
[12:37] <Frederick> oki I boot win2k cd and?
[12:37] <r0d> when prompt, hit r for recovery console
[12:37] <Frederick> than?
[12:37] <Frederick> *then
[12:38] <r0d> its easy after taht. just follow along
[12:38] <r0d> u type your password
[12:38] <Frederick> hum... lemme try brb
[12:38] <r0d> then you get prompt w/ C:
[12:38] <ThE__OnE> lol, why cant i open my cd drives? i just opened them like 15 min ago?
[12:38] <lsuactiafner> ThE__OnE : becuase they are mounted
[12:38] <lsuactiafner> type df
[12:38] <Frederick> ThE__OnE sudo umount /mnt/cdrom
[12:38] <lsuactiafner> and umount /mnt/cdrom
[12:39] <Frederick> r0d brb
[12:39] <microhaxo> OMG
[12:39] <microhaxo> this is pure bullshit, get this..:
[12:39] <lsuactiafner> ok time to detach all over
[12:39] <Seveas> Frederick, cdrim is mounted wit the user option, you don't need sudo to unmount it
[12:39] <Seveas> and eject from the commandline works as well :)
[12:39] <ThE__OnE> is there any way to disable from mounting?
[12:39] <kbrooks_> anyone use vnc?
[12:40] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, of course
[12:40] <ThE__OnE> how please
[12:40] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, system->prefs->removable media
[12:40] <kbrooks_> anyone use vnc?
[12:40] <r0d> Seveas,  you know using 'user' in /etc/fstab never works for me w/ ntfs partitions
[12:40] <Seveas> but a cdrom is useless when not mounted :)
[12:40] <Seveas> r0d, what do you mean with 'never works'?
[12:40] <microhaxo> when i attempt to boot into windows it says i need to activate right away, takes 30 min to load activation screen, then the dumb mofo wont activate over internet, ontop of that it wont GENERATE AN INSTALLATION ID, so i get error, Conflict preventing windows activation, and i got microsoft reps saying it will cost 280.00 usd for help because its after hours..
[12:40] <microhaxo> PURE BULLSHIT
[12:40] <ThE__OnE> why is mounting used?
[12:40] <Seveas> microhaxo, language...
[12:41] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, to access the files on it :)
[12:41] <microhaxo> I am severely pizzored
[12:41] <r0d> Seveas,  I mean it doesnt work as being able to mount w/ regular user
[12:41] <kbrooks_> microhaxo, so use linux
[12:41] <Seveas> r0d, that'll work only if combined with noauto
[12:41] <microhaxo> ...
[12:41] <microhaxo> someone hacked me
[12:41] <microhaxo> what are the chances of not being able to activate windows
[12:41] <microhaxo> and not being able to login
[12:41] <microhaxo> ?
[12:41] <r0d> Seveas,  ah Tanks!
[12:41] <ThE__OnE> hehed, it has to be mounted?
[12:41] <ThE__OnE> hmm ok
[12:41] <microhaxo> bah
[12:41] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, yes :)
[12:41] <microhaxo> no one hacked me
[12:41] <microhaxo> im on a router
[12:41] <Seveas> mounting integrates it in the filesystem
[12:42] <microhaxo> It was linux
[12:42] <microhaxo> im telling you
[12:42] <Seveas> microhaxo, please don't generate noise...
[12:42] <kbrooks_> microhaxo, i can guide you to linux
[12:42] <kbrooks_> want me to?
[12:43] <microhaxo> linux sucks without games :|
[12:43] <microhaxo> snif snif
[12:43] <Seveas> there's supertux ;)
[12:43] <XandriX> microhaxo, i play amny games in linux
[12:43] <linux_fan> is there a voice recognition program for Linux??
[12:43] <kbrooks_> microhaxo, there are games in linux
[12:43] <XandriX> there also a magical thing called cedega cvs
[12:43] <microhaxo> i cant
[12:43] <kbrooks_> why
[12:43] <r0d> lsuactiafner, do you know whats new in the 2.6.12 kernel? anything worth to mention?
[12:43] <microhaxo> americas army gives error
[12:43] <microhaxo> hrm
[12:43] <microhaxo> everything i do in linux is wrong
[12:43] <kbrooks_> microhaxo, other games
[12:43] <microhaxo> it hates me
[12:43] <microhaxo> Enemy territory
[12:43] <kbrooks_> microhaxo, no. listen.
[12:43] <microhaxo> dont work
[12:43] <kbrooks_> i can help you.
[12:44] <XandriX> microhaxo, it takes time to learn
[12:44] <kbrooks_> all you have to do is pm me :P
[12:44] <linux_fan> is there a voice recognition program for Linux?
[12:44] <oneiron> is it me guys, or are several mail lists down?
[12:44] <Seveas> the mailing list server is down
[12:44] <lpk> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[12:44] <lpk> kernel?
[12:44] <linux_fan> is there a voice recognition program for Linux?
[12:45] <oneiron> thanks Seveas
[12:45] <lpk> I'm installing VMWare, do i have those headers in default ubuntu install?
[12:45] <DanielC> microhaxo: If it makes you feel better, Windows hates me. :)  This is what happens when an advanced life form tries to explain something to a stupid box of silicon. :)
[12:45] <hondje> linux_fan: I remember using 'via voice' 5 years ago or so, google for it
[12:45] <Seveas> lpk, sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:45] <linux_fan> thank u honfje
[12:45] <lsuactiafner> r0d : well, i saw pci express again
[12:45] <lsuactiafner> so thats good for me
[12:45] <lsuactiafner> well worth it
[12:46] <X7C> if I have a wireless interface on my computer... do i have to put it on /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:46] <lsuactiafner> but, nothing else but havent checked the changelog
[12:46] <lsuactiafner> tho the changelog is incomplete
[12:46] <lpk> Seveas: Great, thanks!
[12:46] <lsuactiafner> got to reboot now
[12:46] <truz24> Dual core pentium, or dual xeons ?
[12:46] <linux_fan> is there a voice recognition program for Linux?
[12:46] <r0d> kool
[12:46] <lsuactiafner> brb, detach...
[12:46] <X7C> ahm..
[12:47] <fabio_> hello all
[12:47] <siimo> hi anyone still running warty here
[12:47] <r0d> linux_fan,  like for authentication?
[12:47] <X7C> if I have a wireless interface on my computer... do i have to put it on /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:48] <Seveas> X7C, of course..
[12:48] <linux_fan> no, so you can talk and it will type
[12:48] <r0d> linux_fan,  yea bob2 told me, but i forget
[12:48] <X7C> and what should i type as it is already configured.....
[12:48] <atool> linux_fan,  it looks like there's CMU sphinx and viavoice...both of which look like they've been abandoned.
[12:48] <Seveas> ifup NAME_OF_THE_INTERFACE
[12:48] <r0d> linux_fan,  I know windoze's has one, but it'll cost ya
[12:49] <r0d> try it in wine....
[12:49] <ThE__OnE> hey whats a good guide to linux in general with ubuntu?
[12:49] <X7C> ahm.. thanks
[12:49] <lsuactiafner> worked nicely
[12:49] <ninwa> Someone please refresh my memory, how does one modify which services will load with his system? I remember in RH there was something of a service manager, what's the solution in Ubuntu?
[12:49] <lsuactiafner> hmm not to check if sensors work
[12:49] <ThE__OnE> i been to http://ubuntuguide.org/, but they never told me i can right click the cd and eject =)
[12:50] <r0d> lsuactiafner,  guess I wont need to upgrade yet. no pci express:(
[12:50] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is bad
[12:50] <atool> ThE__OnE, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/link/helplinkfolder_view
[12:50] <r0d> Seveas,  that unoffical guide was kinda good. for what i read at least
[12:51] <Seveas> r0d, i don't call misinformation, suboptimal solutions and lack of explanation good...
[12:51] <xteraa3> Can someone please tell me the commands to install clearlooks 0.6 thanK!
[12:51] <xteraa3> I use hoary
[12:51] <r0d> Seveas,  I'll i used it for was for TOR and that worked. cant say anything about the rest...
[12:52] <r0d> *-i'll
[12:52] <fabio_> xteraa3, what is it? A theme?
[12:52] <Seveas> xteraa3, you will have to download it from the clearlooks website and compile/install it manually
[12:52] <High|ander> How do i install gvim?? help please?
[12:53] <Seveas> High|ander, aptitude install vim-gnome
[12:53] <skaller> does anyone know the starting password of root?
[12:53] <xteraa3> Seveas, I have it downloaded but I have never compiled anything...I rely on apt-get...I want to learn though...but I dont what commands to use to install it cleanly
[12:54] <Seveas> High|ander, apt-get install vim-gnome
[12:54] <High|ander>  apt-get install vim-gnome
[12:54] <atool> xteraa3, it's just a theme, you should be able to d/l the file and install it using the thememanager
[12:54] <High|ander> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "vim-gnome"
[12:54] <Seveas> xteraa3, can't help you there, read the README and INSTALL files and hope that tings don't get too fucked up that you cannot upgrade it via apt anymore
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> ok, question, i want to save an image that displays in firefox.. but it doesnt save the image.. no matter what.. so whats up?
[12:55] <xteraa3> atool, I read its a theme engine and requires installation
[12:55] <skaller> does anyone know the starting password of root?
[12:55] <Seveas> skaller: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:55] <Seveas> there is no root password
[12:55] <skaller> so how do i su to root?
[12:56] <Seveas> skaller: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:56] <r0d> lsuactiafner,  like right clicking on it doesnt work?
[12:56] <xteraa3> I have searched the ubuntu forums for clear instructions on installing clearlooks 0.6 but found none
[12:56] <Seveas> xteraa3, why do you specifically want that version?
[12:56] <High|ander> Seveas: cant find the package
[12:57] <Seveas> vim-gnome is definitely there
[12:57] <Seveas> or have you not enabled installing software via the network yet?
[12:57] <High|ander> Seveas: how do i do that?
[12:58] <Seveas> High|ander, can you paste the file /etc/apt/sources.list on paste.ubuntulinux.nl please
[12:58] <queuetue> What do you guys use for a caching nameserver?  pdns appears to be dying irregularly.  (I think the windows clients kill it.)
[12:58] <lsuactiafner> cant get sensors working
[12:58] <Seveas> bind9 of course :)
[12:58] <lsuactiafner> ran sensors-detect
[12:58] <stjepan> hi
[12:58] <skaller> thx .. now I have root :)
[12:58] <lsuactiafner> kernel has all the modules.. but it keeps saying cant find sensors.. ideas?
[12:58] <queuetue> bind seems a bit excessive for a caching-only nameerver. :)
[12:58] <stjepan> where is "local .xinitrc file"?
[12:59] <xteraa3> I wonder if his would work in Ubuntu? "install it with "./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-animation" followed by "make install" as root."
[12:59] <Seveas> xteraa3, at least do --prefix=/usr/local
[12:59] <High|ander> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/121
[12:59] <siimo> not any people using warty?
[01:00] <lsuactiafner> stjepan : create it in your /home/user_account
[01:00] <stjepan> look
[01:00] <lsuactiafner> queuetue : dnsmasq
[01:00] <xteraa3> Seveas, maybe thats my problem I did'nt use ../local as you say
[01:00] <DanielC> siimo: I have a warty system next door, but I don't know Ubuntu well...
[01:00] <stjepan> in EDE (equinox desktop environment) documentation
[01:00] <stjepan> it says that I need to add line "startede" to local .xinitrc file
[01:01] <stjepan> what should I do?
[01:01] <fabio_> guys any1 programming in gtk+ here?
[01:01] <kbrooks_> http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html
[01:01] <Seveas> High|ander, edit that file as root (sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list) and replace the existing content with what's listed on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/122
[01:01] <kbrooks_> fabio_, does pygtk count?
[01:01] <truz24> I have two nics in my ubuntu box.  When i plug each of them into separate networks, i get no net activity.  If I shut one of them down, i get net activity through the other card and vice versa... anyway to tell ubuntu which nic to use for internet and dns, and just use the other for lan access ?
[01:01] <stjepan> help pls
[01:02] <fabio_> kbrooks_, eheh, well could, I just wanted to know of any book of gtk+ with C ;)
[01:02] <atool> stjepan, there is usually an .xinitrc file in your home dir
[01:02] <lsuactiafner> truz24 : bridge-utils and brctl and bridge em
[01:02] <atool> stjepan, if not, do a "locate xinitrc"
[01:02] <atool> stjepan, copy and rename it .xinitrc in your home dir
[01:02] <stjepan> atool: In terminal?
[01:02] <atool> stjepan, make any edit to it
[01:03] <atool> stjepan, yes in the terminal :)
[01:03] <ThE__OnE> for firefox, i was jsut wondering, is it possible to load the last used folder when pressing ctrl + d without having to click the arrow down?
[01:03] <truz24> thanks lsuactiafner
[01:03] <stjepan> locate xinitrc - that I need to do in terminal?
[01:04] <yonil> is it just me or is nautilus FULL of bugs ?
[01:04] <yonil> is there a way to work with something else ? (under gnome)
[01:04] <r0d> stjepan, if you dont want to you can open your home directory and go to 'View' and check 'show hidden files' you'll see it
[01:04] <regeya> yonil:  I think it's just you.
[01:04] <microhaxo> Guysd
[01:05] <microhaxo> why the hell cant i compile Directx9wine
[01:05] <microhaxo> same error every time
[01:05] <JDahl> yonil, what's the problem?
[01:05] <Seveas> yonil, bugs like..?
[01:05] <ThE__OnE> anyone?
[01:05] <microhaxo> C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:05] <fabio_> kbrooks_, yes python will do ;) have u got some example of some prog u built with Pygtk?
[01:05] <sixhat> I I have a question about the live CD of ubuntu... is it possible to start an ADSL connection with a USB THompson ADSL modem from the live CD?
[01:05] <Seveas> microhaxo, aptitude install build-essential
[01:05] <JDahl> microhaxo, install build-essentials
[01:05] <microhaxo> its already up to date
[01:05] <microhaxo> what it says
[01:05] <yonil> regeya, really? maybe i did something wrong... it keeps getting stuck, sometimes it crashes (when i try to entered a directory i dont have read presmissions to), and other things
[01:05] <atool> Seveas, how's aptitude different than apt-get?
[01:05] <Seveas> microhaxo, then your ./configure script is fubar
[01:06] <Seveas> atool, it's better imho :)
[01:06] <microhaxo> how do i get a new one?
[01:06] <microhaxo> seveas?
[01:06] <Seveas> atool, read the manpages if you want to know why :)
[01:06] <yonil> Seveas, JDahl: i wrote above ^
[01:06] <fabio_> any1 programming in mono here?
[01:06] <atool> Seveas, i would... just not on ubuntu right now :) thanks tho...
[01:06] <Seveas> microhaxo, no idea and i'm going now, sorry
[01:06] <microhaxo> c u l8r
[01:07] <JDahl> yonil, I am not a heavy nautilus user, but it normally works fine for me
[01:07] <lpk> I know i'm asking many questions. But when i rise my mouse sensitivity, it starts to move "grainy", like on a grid of 5 pixels
[01:07] <lpk> I don't like it when my cursor moves 3 pixels in a time. How could i somehow imporve this, hmm, "resolution"?
[01:08] <lpk> rise->raise :P
[01:08] <High|ander> Seveas: thanks, it works now
[01:08] <mikas> can anyone of you recommend a cd/dvd-burner for gnome?.. i'd like something a bit more verbose than nautilus :).. even time remaining would be nice
[01:09] <lpk> mikas: k3b
[01:09] <Seveas> mikas, gnomebaker/graveman
[01:09] <Seveas> k3b is for kde :)
[01:09] <Seveas> (and I really need to go...
[01:09] <lpk> Yeah but.. Shouldn't it run anyway? ;)
[01:09] <Seveas> )
[01:10] <mikas> Seveas, i tried gnomebaker.. it wouldn't write a dvdr-image to dvd..
[01:10] <nalioth> mikas: gnomebaker and graveman are more gnome-centric, but k3b works best
[01:10] <mikas> have to ry graveman later
[01:10] <siimo> i was wondering how i can update gaim in warty? will it be possible to add hoary source and apt-get source gaim  and then build it
[01:10] <gm78> siimo : why not compile the latest gaim from gaim.sourceforge.net?
[01:11] <gm78> mikas : did u try k3b?
[01:11] <gm78> siimo : any reason u need to upgrade your gaim?
[01:11] <ottoaim> siimo:  why not upgrade your dist to hoary the whorehog?
[01:11] <ottoaim> then you can just use the package?
[01:12] <gm78> ottoaim : some people like using distros till they are EOL
[01:12] <ottoaim> gm78: i suppose he can if he wants to be difficult..
[01:12] <siimo> ottoaim, because  cant connect to yahoo
[01:13] <siimo> and i have everything setup correctly and dont feel like doing a new os install
[01:13] <siimo> currently i have exams so i wont risk it
[01:13] <gm78> siimo : are you going to try the latest gaim from sourceforge?
[01:13] <siimo> yeah but id rather make a deb
[01:13] <lsuactiafner> lastest gaim compiled nicely
[01:14] <gm78> siimo : so, nothing is stopping u from doing that?
[01:14] <lsuactiafner> was surprised
[01:14] <gm78> siimo : ./configure   make   sudo checkinstall
[01:14] <siimo> yeah i was just saying can i get it off hoary cause then it will be easy with apt build
[01:14] <lsuactiafner> if you cant connect to whatever rm -r .gaim in your user directory and get a clean .conf
[01:14] <siimo> ok
[01:14] <microhaxo> guys, i dont know if anyone can help me but i get this error when trying to compile CEDEGA CVS, i get to step 5 MAKE.. http://pastebin.com/301580
[01:15] <gm78> siimo : using checkinstall to make a deb is a lot easier than mixing repositories
[01:15] <siimo> i thought check install fails a lot
[01:15] <siimo> ?
[01:15] <XandriX> ehh i orderd my discs in april adn still no sending notification
[01:15] <XandriX> uet my friend orderd htem 2 weeks ago he lvies 3 streets form me and he got them
[01:15] <XandriX> ...
[01:16] <gm78> XandriX : you could borrow his CDs for the time being
[01:17] <skel_> hello
[01:17] <XandriX> gm78, the thign is he doesent want to lend them hes a total jackarse
[01:18] <oneiron> what library am I missing if I don't have libgtkembedmoz.so on my system?
[01:18] <mjr> oneiron, it's in mozilla-browser (and mozilla-firefox)
[01:19] <ninwa> XandriX, Larger than small yet smaller than huge.
[01:19] <XandriX> in mb or gig
[01:19] <ninwa> mb
[01:19] <XandriX> how much
[01:19] <ninwa> It's one CD :)
[01:19] <ninwa> I'm not sure
[01:19] <atool> 700Mb
[01:20] <oneiron> thank you, I tried doing: yelp filename.xml and got an error message saying that file couldn't be found
[01:20] <XandriX> atool, a normal install is that ?
[01:20] <atool> yes
[01:20] <XandriX> ok
[01:20] <XandriX> ty atool
[01:21] <oneiron> mjr, are you picking up what I'm putting down
[01:21] <ninwa> haha
[01:21] <skaller> sry dumb question: trying to run debootstrap, get a message 'no script'
[01:21] <atool> the default install doesn't come with a ton of packages, hence the multiverse, backports, etc.
[01:22] <skaller> i need a script /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/breezy .. where do i get it?
[01:22] <mindphasr> Any linux utilities out there that can attempt to recover what it can from a old cd-r..one that gets crc errors..
[01:22] <kbrooks_> skaller, /topic
[01:23] <ThE__OnE> what is Glade Interface Designer for?
[01:23] <lpk> For designing java interfaces iirc
[01:23] <Burgundavia> no
[01:23] <ThE__OnE> just for designing right
[01:23] <Burgundavia> for desiging gtk and gnome interfaces
[01:23] <skaller> I need to install breezy
[01:23] <ThE__OnE> ok
[01:24] <skaller> i have a base hoary running
[01:24] <Burgundavia> skaller, do you understand what you are doing?
[01:24] <Burgundavia> breezy is quite broken right now
[01:24] <thenuke> skaller: are you sure you need breezy :) it will break immediately or a bit later.
[01:24] <nalioth> skaller: do you need a hole in the head with that?
[01:24] <skaller> lol
[01:25] <skaller> i am a developer
[01:25] <microhaxo> lol
[01:25] <nalioth> skaller: so put it on a spare machine, and have fun
[01:25] <thenuke> lolololol
[01:25] <microhaxo> skaller you know anything about compiling?
[01:25] <skaller> lol
[01:25] <thenuke> you are not. "< skaller> does anyone know the starting password of root?"
[01:25] <skaller> I am the author of an advanced compiler
[01:25] <thenuke> ou are a newbie.
[01:25] <LinuxJones> rolf
[01:25] <microhaxo> hahaha
[01:25] <microhaxo> nice :D
[01:26] <skaller> see for yourself http://felix.sf.net
[01:26] <thenuke> " < skaller> so how do i su to root?
[01:26] <thenuke> :D
[01:26] <thenuke> yeah
[01:26] <Burgundavia> skaller, if you truly want to run breezy, just switch all references to breezy from hoary
[01:26] <skaller> so?
[01:26] <oneiron> rolling
[01:26] <thenuke> Burgundavia: please dont help newbies doing that :D
[01:26] <skaller> i tried that
[01:26] <Burgundavia> thenuke, notice I said that if you want to, and I warned him
[01:26] <nalioth> thenuke: c'mon man, he's so advanced, he can't remember the small stuff
[01:27] <Burgundavia> if they still want to, they can have fun
[01:27] <skaller> sigh ..
[01:27] <thenuke> Burgundavia: notice also that every newbie might then come back here to whine that breezy break their system and asking for help to fix that...
[01:27] <Burgundavia> thenuke, yes
[01:27] <thenuke> Burgundavia: that's why you and no one should not help anyone to do that..
[01:28] <Haldrik>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY pass
[01:28] <skaller> I have hoary running, ok
[01:28] <Burgundavia> skaller, I would leave yourself at hoary until early july
[01:28] <skaller> i need to set up a breezy system on another partition
[01:28] <vHintswen> on ubuntu my mouse doesn't work, last night someone said to switch the mouse with a ps2 mouse and if it works i have to change a line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf does anyone know what line i would have to change and what i change it to(current mouse is a serial mouse)
[01:28] <LinuxJones> skaller, did you run apt-get update before trying the dist-upgrade ?
[01:28] <Burgundavia> skaller, there are the colony cds, but I cannot remember the url right now
[01:29] <kbrooks_> uh
[01:29] <xed> Things NOT to do at work: Go on IRC.
[01:29] <skaller> lol
[01:29] <kbrooks_> is brctl in ubuntu?
[01:29] <sixhat> vHintswen, What kind of mouse do you have? A Serial (COM1?) Type?
[01:29] <vHintswen> the mouse that's connected to it right now is serial
[01:30] <Haldrik> Hey guys, new install and suddenly my ONLY user (no root password set) has lost "sudo" privileges....any solution short of reinstall ? (I tried using the install disk as rescue and finding the "visudo" exec, but it's not found on the disk!)
[01:30] <skaller> all i want is to get the /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/breezy
[01:30] <kbrooks_> kyle@CPE0050ba557516-CM000039d12a5d:~/Desktop/xen-2.0-install $ sudo apt-cache search brctl
[01:30] <kbrooks_> kyle@CPE0050ba557516-CM000039d12a5d:~/Desktop/xen-2.0-install $
[01:30] <vHintswen> i was gonna switch it with a PS2 mouse(but only 1 ps2 slot so i can't have keyboard in at same time
[01:30] <Burgundavia> skaller, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20050618/
[01:30] <sixhat> vHintswen, Edit xorg.conf ... seek Section "InputDevice"
[01:31] <vHintswen> i don't know how to edit stuff
[01:31] <LinuxJones> vHintswen, >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerialMouseHowto
[01:31] <vHintswen> and i don't know what i change the line to
[01:31] <vHintswen> thx
[01:31] <nalioth> vHintswen: any time someone says "edit this" you can use any text editor you desire (as long as its plain text)
[01:31] <sixhat> vHintswen, change "Protocol" to "Auto" and "Device" to /dev/ttyS0
[01:32] <skaller> Burgundavia .. I need to do a network install from my local mirror
[01:32] <sixhat> vHintswen, to edit just use nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:32] <Burgundavia> skaller, hmm, canna help you on that
[01:32] <skaller> because downloads from it are not metererd
[01:32] <sixhat> form a root terminal
[01:32] <vHintswen> nalioth, i know practly nothing about linux. i dunno how to open a text editor with commands lol
[01:32] <skaller> I can see the cd images there
[01:32] <skaller> ftp://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/daily-installer-amd64/20050317ubuntu5.0.20050611/doc/manual/en/apcs04.html
[01:33] <skaller> but I am following these directions
[01:33] <sixhat> vHintswen, Open a Terminal Window from APLICATIONS menu...
[01:33] <vHintswen> ?
[01:34] <vHintswen> the stuff on that page won't work lol...
[01:34] <sixhat> vHintswen, Preferably a Root Terminal Window... Cause will need to write the xorg.conf file after editing...
[01:34] <skaller> # /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch ARCH breezy \
[01:34] <skaller>      /mnt/debinst http://http.us.debian.org/debian
[01:34] <skaller> it says to do that .. but it doesn't work due to lack of the script
[01:34] <nalioth> vHintswen: from a terminal, you can open any program available
[01:34] <vHintswen> yesterday i used 'sudo cat /dev/ttyS0' to check if mouse works
[01:34] <vHintswen> and 'sudo cat /dev/ttyS1'
[01:34] <sixhat> vHintswen, If you could read Portuguese... http://sextoboi.blogspot.com/2005/06/rato-srie-com1-no-ubuntu-live.html
[01:34] <nalioth> vHintswen: some common gui text eds are gedit, nedit, kate, and for cli a simple editor is nano
[01:34] <vHintswen> both gave errors
[01:35] <thenuke> eeeee-hele. 02:23 < skaller> I need to install breezy | 02:24 < thenuke> skaller: are you sure you need breezy :) it will break immediately or a bit later. | 02:24 < skaller> lol, i am a developer |  aiemmin sanottua: "< skaller> does anyone know the starting password of root?" && " < skaller> so how do i su to root?"
[01:35] <likkashot> well Im back after 3 othe distros and cant solve anything so ill stay with ubuntu
[01:35] <thenuke> oops, wrong channel, sorry..
[01:36] <LinuxJones> thenuke, what are you doing ?
[01:36] <sixhat> vHintswen, the simplest way to open a new terminal.. is by ALT+CTRL+F2
[01:36] <thenuke> LinuxJones: I was pasting that to other channel? did you not figure that out by ur self?
[01:36] <skaller> thenuke you should be quiet, you are clearly a stupid small boy
[01:36] <skaller> ubuntu is not my expertise
[01:36] <thenuke> skaller: laf ;D I might me little(short) but you are stupid ;D
[01:37] <vHintswen> what's the point of onening a new terminal?
[01:37] <likkashot> what is the easyest way to activate a network card that has not been doscovered during setup
[01:37] <LinuxJones> thenuke, don't call people names here
[01:37] <kbrooks_> okay
[01:37] <kbrooks_> i need brctl
[01:37] <sixhat> vHintswen, If you are stuck with a frezed mouse pointer...
[01:37] <kbrooks_> bridge control utilities
[01:37] <kbrooks_> now
[01:37] <kbrooks_> NOW!
[01:38] <skaller> thanks Linux, do you happen to know where I can get /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/breezy?
[01:38] <D1> are there any packages for the 2.6.12 kernel taht just came out for hoary?
[01:38] <vHintswen> ..?
[01:38] <kbrooks_> skaller, dont use breezy
[01:38] <kbrooks_> RTOSFT
[01:38] <virtuald> osft?
[01:38] <kbrooks_> read the oh, so fine topic
[01:38] <skaller> I need to use the glibc on breezy
[01:39] <LinuxJones> skaller, do sorry I don't know
[01:39] <virtuald> B)
[01:39] <vHintswen> omg i'm lost
[01:39] <skaller> to make a debian package against it
[01:39] <likkashot> what is the easyest way to activate a network card that has not been doscovered during setup
[01:39] <jbailey> skaller: Switching to the breezy glibc has unfortunate side effects, I really don't recommend it.
[01:39] <likkashot> its a marvel yukon
[01:39] <skaller> I know it has unfortunate side effects :)
[01:39] <jbailey> skaller: The most irritating of which is that if you don't update your initrd-tools, you won't be able to boot after your next kernel install.
[01:39] <c_rodge> how can i view .w,v files in ubuntu, if it is possible??
[01:39] <likkashot> suposed to be using th sk98lin driver
[01:39] <virtuald> i upgraded to breezy without seeing the topic first, i get lots of problems but i can manage
[01:40] <c_rodge> wmv*
[01:40] <c_rodge> is there a way to view wmv files in hoary
[01:40] <kong0> does anybody know a great codec for mp3?
[01:40] <kong0> xmms doesnt work for me...
[01:40] <thenuke> c_rodge: c_rodge http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[01:40] <thenuke> kong0: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[01:41] <c_rodge> ive done that
[01:41] <c_rodge> and i still cant view files from the interent
[01:41] <c_rodge> that are wmv
[01:42] <lsuactiafner> kong0 : run alsamixer and unmite your volume
[01:42] <skaller> jbailey, I have to build against a package that is not available in hoary
[01:42] <lsuactiafner> c_rodge : you run a 64bit system?
[01:42] <c_rodge> no
[01:42] <likkashot> hmm
[01:42] <lsuactiafner> then you havent installed the codecs correctly
[01:43] <c_rodge> then i dont know how to
[01:43] <jbailey> skaller: Usually better to backport the package to Hoary rather than play with glibc.
[01:43] <lsuactiafner> bbl
[01:43] <skaller> I will have to use .5 gglibc evenually ..
[01:43] <c_rodge> how do i install codecs on hary so i can view wmv files from the internet
[01:43] <skaller> might as well be now ;(
[01:43] <c_rodge> hoary
[01:44] <nalioth> well!
[01:44] <nalioth> i've finally gotten java working
[01:44] <nalioth> and my CPU went thru the roof
[01:45] <likkashot> whats the name of the help canel?
[01:45] <skaller> serves you right for using Java, lol :)
[01:45] <c_rodge> how do i install codeds
[01:45] <c_rodge> codecs
[01:45] <nalioth> skaller: well, i've been avoiding it for the longest, but i'm bored atm
[01:45] <skaller> hehe :)
[01:46] <skaller> you could learn a decent language like Ocaml or Haskell
[01:46] <nalioth> i run a iBook G3/600 and am seein how long it takes for azuerus to start up
[01:46] <HrdwrBoB> haskell the worlds most useless language?
[01:46] <nalioth> c_rodge: listen to ubotu
[01:46] <nalioth> !Restricted
[01:46] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:46] <newbiedude> how do i set a password on phpmyadmin???
[01:47] <c_rodge> what?
[01:47] <HrdwrBoB> newbiedude: it uses the passwords that mysql does
[01:47] <newbiedude> what do u mean>
[01:47] <c_rodge> i just want to be able to view wmv files from the internet in ubunut
[01:48] <nalioth> c_rodge: wmv9 will be a long time coming
[01:48] <newbiedude> what if i don't know the password?
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> newbiedude: set a password for mysql; you've set a password for phpmyadmin
[01:48] <likkashot> thanks fo the help :((((
[01:48] <nalioth> c_rodge: go to www.mplayerhq.hu and download the codecs there (read the instructions for installation while you're  there)
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> ok by default there's no root password, BUT you can only connect from localhost
[01:48] <ompaul> c_rodge, we understand that, however in order for you to do that it is a simple matter of reading the web page  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats as told to you by the channel robot ubotu, there you will (A) find out what you need to do (B) why you need to do this
[01:48] <newbiedude> how do u set a psssword for mysql???????????
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> newbiedude: one question mark is sufficient
[01:49] <newbiedude> sorry
[01:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there a good program for burning cd's in ubuntu?
[01:49] <HrdwrBoB> you need to be clearer
[01:49] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: k3b
[01:49] <Razor-X> nalioth: i'm still asking about Konsole ;)
[01:49] <newbiedude> byebye
[01:49] <Razor-X> I think I may have to change to aterm/eterm... :(
[01:49] <Razor-X> but, I love Konsole
[01:49] <nalioth> Razor-X: for what?
[01:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nalioth isn't that for kde?
[01:49] <HrdwrBoB> I think what you'll find you need is GRANT ALL ON *.* TO username@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'yourpassword'
[01:49] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: it will run fine under gnome
[01:50] <LinuxJones> ChurcH_of_FoamY, gnomebaker or graveman are very good also
[01:50] <ompaul> ChurcH_of_FoamY, you can install it under gnome and run it there
[01:50] <Razor-X> ChurcH_of_FoamY: and it's better than Gnomebaker
[01:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> really?
[01:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nice
[01:50] <Razor-X> K3B, IMO, is the most powerful CD burning app
[01:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i tryed k3b and found it to be better than roxio or easy cd creator
[01:50] <ompaul> ChurcH_of_FoamY, ever hear of Linux, it offers so much choice
[01:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> very comprehensive
[01:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i love linux
[01:51] <Razor-X> ompaul: i'm writing a guide with as many choices as I can offer
[01:51] <LinuxJones> ChurcH_of_FoamY, so do we :)
[01:51] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: and linux loves you
[01:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> even more now that winxp toasted my vid card >.<
[01:51] <Razor-X> nalioth: i'll go on to the package manager section?
[01:51] <Razor-X> ChurcH_of_FoamY: doncha hate Windoze? ;)
[01:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea i stuck my copy of xp in the microwave
[01:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> to watch it sparkle
[01:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> stupid xp >.<
[01:51] <Razor-X> good job!!
[01:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> fry my vid card will ya
[01:52] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i give windoze CDs to my enemies
[01:52] <Razor-X> that's a hell of a Linux initiation
[01:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[01:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i had that vid card for 6 years
[01:52] <Razor-X> hah!
[01:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and it worked fine til xp gotta hold of it
[01:52] <Razor-X> yeah, that XP sucks
[01:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> friday i got the copys of ubuntu i orderd in
[01:53] <ompaul> ChurcH_of_FoamY, it used to be a tradition amoung some friends of mine to fire up a gas heater and place the CD in front of it where it would bend and buckle, these would then be glued to the noc wall
[01:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol nice
[01:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i just nuke em lol
[01:53] <microhaxo> guys
[01:53] <HrdwrBoB> ompaul: deal P3
[01:53] <microhaxo> i have a Gzip file
[01:53] <HrdwrBoB> dual even
[01:53] <lamp_> n8
[01:53] <Razor-X> this box still double-boots XP
[01:54] <Razor-X> because of my dad
[01:54] <ompaul> HrdwrBoB, it is
[01:54] <microhaxo> but it says archive not supported
[01:54] <microhaxo> how do i open?
[01:54] <Razor-X> as far as he knows, Linux doesen't exist on this machine
[01:54] <Razor-X> microhaxo: gunzip foo.gz
[01:54] <microhaxo> hehe
[01:54] <Razor-X> unless it's tar.gz or .tgz
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> I have a P3 933 dual as my TV box .. bit of a waste but hey
[01:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> as far as i can see this box is xp free ^_^
[01:54] <nalioth> microhaxo: and if that doesnt work, the file is probably bad
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> I haven't run windows for about 12 months
[01:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> down with pax microsoftia!
[01:55] <nalioth> HrdwrBoB: ya got some catchin up to do
[01:55] <hksdu> hello all, I have a quick question, for sudoers, I don't see my account but I am the only user who can sudo, how does that work?
[01:55] <nalioth> HrdwrBoB: i've been filth-free for over 5 years
[01:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> to my sadness discoverd linux 2 monthes ago
[01:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> never knew such a great thing existed
[01:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> now i'm hooked
[01:55] <Razor-X> ChurcH_of_FoamY: been using it since I was 11, 4 years ago that was
[01:55] <ompaul> Nalioth I got my first installed FreeBSD box in 1994
[01:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wow nice
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> hksdu: you are in group 'admin'
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> hksdu: admin has sudo right
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> s
[01:56] <xed> Damnit
[01:56] <xed> I'm bored at work.
[01:56] <LinuxJones> hksdu, your user account should have been aded to sudoers
[01:56] <LinuxJones> err added
[01:57] <HrdwrBoB> LinuxJones: no, the admin group is added
[01:57] <hksdu> HrdwrBoB: I added a new user using useradd and modified it as a member in admin but I cannot ssh to this remote machine
[01:57] <ompaul> woops 1981
[01:57] <xed> Old school.
[01:57] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> RPG2?
[01:57] <LinuxJones> HrdwrBoB, well my user accound got added by the Ubuntu installer during install
[01:57] <hksdu> LinuxJones: yeah, cuz it's the default user account when i installed this system.
[01:57] <ompaul> report generator as fast as I can remember
[01:57] <HrdwrBoB> hksdu: I'm missing the link between sudo and ssh?
[01:57] <HrdwrBoB> LinuxJones: in warty yes
[01:57] <ompaul> it is over 20 years ago :)
[01:58] <LinuxJones> hksdu, this is another account your in ?
[01:58] <XandriX> well grabbign ubuntu fr my second pc right now as wee speak
[01:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> isen't warty broken still?
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> ChurcH_of_FoamY: warty is the old release
[01:58] <LinuxJones> HrdwrBoB, I did a clean install of Hoary about 2 weeks ago
[01:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh i see
[01:58] <hksdu> HrdwrBoB: sorry, what I meant was that when I ssh using my default user account(created during installation), I could do that but I couldn't use the new account that I created on ssh server to ssh from a remote machine.
[01:59] <XandriX> i alreayd have slax on it im gonan isntall ubuntu to
[01:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how do you guys get your text to appere red with my name in it?
[01:59] <flodine> a guys i installed those atwiz font but dont see them whats the deal
[01:59] <ompaul>  ChurcH_of_FoamY the program does that not us
[01:59] <BrutusUnix> what is the default root password?
[01:59] <ThE__OnE> can someone do me a favor?
[01:59] <ThE__OnE> PM me?
[01:59] <ompaul> ChurcH_of_Foam  see it does not happen here
[01:59] <lonewolff> BrutusUnix: there is none
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> hksdu: can you login locally?
[01:59] <lonewolff> BrutusUnix: you dont actually need one
[01:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh i see
[01:59] <flodine> anyone running artwiz fonts
[02:00] <hksdu> HrdwrBoB: hmm..haven't tried cuz that server is put aside at the corner..lol...no monitor to try it out...
[02:00] <hksdu> HrdwrBoB: and what's the difference between useradd and adduser?
[02:00] <ThE__OnE> please
[02:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thers no k3b icon in my u-bar
[02:00] <BrutusUnix> sounds like a flaw to me
[02:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how do i get to it?
[02:00] <lonewolff> BrutusUnix: we use sudo to run programs as root, sudo bash will give you a root shell, and if you must set a root password sudo passwd will do it
[02:00] <HrdwrBoB> adduser is a script which makes the directory and sets up the permissions and sutff like that
[02:00] <HrdwrBoB> useradd is a bare program for adding users
[02:01] <lonewolff> BrutusUnix: root login is disabled by default unless you set the root password
[02:01] <HrdwrBoB> BrutusUnix: you can use 'sudo' with your password to run root commands
[02:01] <ompaul> useradd - Create a new user or update default new user information :: adduser, addgroup - add a user or group to the system<- this information was obtained by typing the command and the word man before it 'man useradd'
[02:01] <BrutusUnix> ok I just did sudo passwd
[02:01] <hksdu> HrdwrBoB: then when should I use adduser? cuz useradd seems like having the same options to adduser
[02:01] <BrutusUnix> but this should have asked me on install
[02:02] <HrdwrBoB> you should not use useradd
[02:02] <lonewolff> BrutusUnix: why? its not required
[02:02] <BrutusUnix> sounds like a flaw to the system setup
[02:02] <HrdwrBoB> use adduser
[02:02] <HrdwrBoB> BrutusUnix: why?
[02:02] <hksdu> HrdwrBoB: why?
[02:02] <BrutusUnix> root should have a password
[02:02] <HrdwrBoB> hksdu: useradd is a tad more advanced, adduser will do more thigns for you
[02:02] <ompaul> BrutusUnix, no it should not
[02:02] <HrdwrBoB> BrutusUnix: why.
[02:02] <lonewolff> BrutusUnix: we take an approach similar to that of mac os X and dont allow root logins, using sudo to runs things as root when required
[02:03] <ompaul> BrutusUnix, using sudo allows all actions by the authorised user to be logged by syslog
[02:03] <HrdwrBoB> BrutusUnix: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:03] <BrutusUnix> yes I know what sudo dose
[02:03] <Razor-X> hmmmm... for a terminal emulator, i'ld like something where I can set a variable to true, and suddenly, both Alt keys behave as meta keys, and Caps Lock becomes Control
[02:03] <ompaul> BrutusUnix, if you need a root shell what is wrong with sudo -s
[02:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is it possible for a haxor to run sudo on your box from outside the network?
[02:03] <BrutusUnix> but this means anyone can do sudo without using a password
[02:03] <Razor-X> ChurcH_of_FoamY: nopes
[02:03] <HrdwrBoB> ChurcH_of_FoamY: only if they a) know your password and b) have compromised your computer already
[02:03] <hksdu> HrdwrBoB: thanks, let me try
[02:03] <Razor-X> unless they become you from outside the box
[02:04] <lonewolff> BrutusUnix: no! only users in the admin group can
[02:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok sweet
[02:04] <pepsi> anyone using breezy?
[02:04] <ompaul> BrutusUnix, no, the first user is in wheel, the rest are not
[02:04] <HrdwrBoB> BrutusUnix: no, root is disabled, not passwordless
[02:04] <HrdwrBoB> ompaul: wheel is admin :)
[02:04] <ompaul> HrdwrBoB, I show my age :)
[02:04] <BrutusUnix> so their is no wheel group on ubuntu?
[02:04] <HrdwrBoB> pepsi: not recommended at the moment :)
[02:04] <Razor-X> nobody knows of such terminal emultor?
[02:05] <pepsi> HrdwrBoB, i am quite aware of that... but ive been running it for weeks now
[02:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> #ChurcH_of_FoamY
[02:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> that was odd
[02:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok
[02:05] <ompaul> BrutusUnix, no wheel adm is actually the group
[02:05] <HrdwrBoB> Razor-X: that's a keymap issue
[02:06] <ompaul> BrutusUnix, concept exactly the same
[02:06] <HrdwrBoB> you will want to get something that modifies your keymap
[02:06] <Razor-X> HrdwrBoB: well, terminals sometimes affect keymap
[02:06] <Razor-X> I know some terminal make Ctrl+/ = C-_
[02:06] <Razor-X> while some don't
[02:07] <ThE__OnE> in X-Chat i added %O$3 to the Advanced - Text Events - channel messages, like here in http://www.xchat.org/faq/#q26, but it does'nt save after i press OK, any reason?
[02:07] <ompaul> BrutusUnix, of course you can alter it so others may be in adm and you can do a lot of other stuff with sudo but you know this already
[02:08] <hksdu> HrdwrBoB: After I created an user using adduser, how do I add it to the admin group?
[02:08] <HrdwrBoB> hksdu: usermod -g admin username
[02:08] <HrdwrBoB> or you can use the graphical user utility
[02:08] <kong0> how do i install the codecs for xmms the console couldnt find them...?
[02:08] <HrdwrBoB> kong0: codecs for xmms?
[02:08] <HrdwrBoB> it should install them automatically
[02:09] <kong0> yes
[02:09] <hksdu> HrdwrBoB: o....I cannot add the user to a group when I use adduser? like a flag or something like that?
[02:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubuntu games are neat ^_^
[02:09] <HrdwrBoB> yes adduser -g admin username
[02:09] <kong0> it doesnt play mp3 so far so i seem to need additional codecs for it
[02:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> plays gnometis
[02:09] <hksdu> HrdwrBoB: I am trying hard on commands only so I am using ssh from remote machine to my server and do adduser...no GUI for...:P
[02:09] <hksdu> HrdwrBoB: thanks a lot
[02:09] <HrdwrBoB> hksdu: wait
[02:09] <HrdwrBoB> adduser name group
[02:09] <HrdwrBoB> not -g
[02:10] <hksdu> HrdwrBoB: I tried, it said that user does not exist
[02:10] <xed> I am le bored =(
[02:10] <HrdwrBoB> hksdu: then the user doesn't exist
[02:10] <Dawson> Ive installed MySQL, and am unable to secure the initial user accounts - perhaps something to do with it being disabled on ubuntu. Anyone have any ideas how to set it up?
[02:10] <HrdwrBoB> hksdu: just because it's remote doesn't mean no gui
[02:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> <--wonders if he can format his thumb drive ext3
[02:10] <hksdu> HrdwrBoB: yeah..I mean on creation, I cannot give a flag to add it to group at the same time I create?
[02:10] <kong0> can anyone pls give me the adress to that wonderful site with lots of ubuntu software installations?
[02:10] <HrdwrBoB> hksdu: you can login with ssh -X -C user@host and get X apps on your machine
[02:11] <hksdu> Dawson: what do you mean by initial user accounts?
[02:11] <kobs> kong0: the ubuntu guide?
[02:11] <HrdwrBoB> hksdu: adduser user group
[02:11] <kong0> uhuh
[02:11] <HrdwrBoB> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you can
[02:11] <kobs> www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:11] <HrdwrBoB> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I wouldn't
[02:11] <anto9us> ChurcH_of_FoamY: that would stop you using it on a windows machine
[02:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> problems
[02:11] <HrdwrBoB> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I keep my removable media FAT32
[02:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[02:11] <hksdu> HrdwrBoB: wow...sounds very fun....but I am using cygwin to ssh to my Ubuntu box...:p
[02:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i see
[02:11] <Dawson> hksdu: Well, ive installed the server. Usually you need to set intial passwords, etc. It doesnt seem to want to let me do that.
[02:11] <HrdwrBoB> hksdu: you can still do it you just need a local X server.. but yeah
[02:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> weard question anyone play postal 2 in linux yet?
[02:12] <HrdwrBoB> anto9us: it would stop you using it on J random windows machine
[02:12] <HrdwrBoB> which is the whole point of usb removable storage
[02:12] <hksdu> Dawson: the default account is usually root without password, what you need to do is to use mysqladmin to change your password
[02:12] <anto9us> HrdwrBoB: yes :)
[02:12] <abarbaccia> hey all, i'm making a mythtv ubuntu website, anybody know of a cheap webhosting place that allows access to a mysql database?
[02:12] <xed> I'm bored at work.  I blame this on the economy.
[02:12] <anto9us> xed: you're overpayed
[02:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know?
[02:13] <kong0> YEEEEEES!!! I HAVE MUSIC!!!
[02:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i just got the game and it rocks
[02:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[02:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> congrats
[02:13] <kong0> where can i dl that or do you have to buy it?
[02:14] <kong0>  postal im referring to that is
[02:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> you have to buy it
[02:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it has copy protection
[02:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so you can't copy it >.<
[02:14] <Dawson> hksdu: No can do: error: 'Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)'
[02:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> at least not on a winbox
[02:15] <hksdu> HrdwrBoB: o...when I use adduser to add an user, it doesn't ask for password, so I have to login as that user to change password but if I don't create password, I can't ssh to that machine to change password..what should I do?
[02:15] <Dawson> hksdu: Thats using the mysqladmin command, as given in the MySQL Docs.
[02:15] <HrdwrBoB> anto9us: I'm overpaid, lots of people are 'overpaid'
[02:15] <stuNNed> anyone successfully use cedega on ubuntu hoary?
[02:15] <zyth> stuNNed, yep.
[02:15] <HrdwrBoB> hksdu: sudo passwd user
[02:15] <kong0> is wine payware?
[02:15] <stuNNed> zyth: ok thanks, which games?  going to try men of valor: vietnam, but it's not rated at transgaming.com, think it'll work?
[02:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> http://www.gopostal.com/
[02:15] <anto9us> HrdwrBoB: yes, and I should be one of them :)
[02:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is where you can get it
[02:16] <zyth> stuNNed, no clue, the only game I use it for is World of Warcraft.
[02:16] <hksdu> Dawson: yeah...and you have to do that to create your admin password, which is your initial password.  Besides, when you try to connect using root, don't just do mysql -u root -p because this is different from mysql -h localhost -u -p
[02:16] <kong0> Is Wine Payware?
[02:16] <stuNNed> zyth: and World of Warcraft runs w/out a hitch?
[02:16] <hksdu> HrdwrBoB: ic...thanks a lot, I will try
[02:16] <zyth> stuNNed, yep.
[02:16] <stuNNed> zyth: ok, thanks again
[02:16] <zyth> np
[02:16] <zyth> kong0, www.winehq.com
[02:16] <kong0> hmm ill just have to asume it is since i cant find it
[02:17] <kong0> ok thx
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> anto9us: a combination of hard work, the right attitude, a modicum of skills and being in the right place at the right time will get you tehre
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> primarily though - it's attitude
[02:17] <anto9us> HrdwrBoB: I'm not doing too bad
[02:18] <anto9us> HrdwrBoB: I enjoy my work, recently struck a better pay structure because of the very things you mentioned and I don't get time to be bored
[02:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> holy $hit! O_O
[02:18] <Dawson> hksdu: so it's not: mysqladmin -u root password new_pass ? If not... what is it? :/
[02:18] <HrdwrBoB> ah excellent
[02:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> they make postal 2 for linux ^_^
[02:18] <HrdwrBoB> enjoying your work is <3
[02:19] <zyth> ChurcH_of_FoamY, um.. yeah, that's been out a long time
[02:19] <zyth> there's a demo you can download.
[02:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> well i just found out about it lol
[02:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i have the winsucks version
[02:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> which um sucks
[02:21] <ThE__OnE> in X-Chat i added %O$3 to the Advanced - Text Events - channel messages, like here in http://www.xchat.org/faq/#q26, but it does'nt save after i press OK, any reason?
[02:21] <X7C> has anyone been able to route a wifi lan throug eth0 on a computer to internet using shorewall?
[02:21] <dark> ThE__OnE: (stupid question) did you hit enter?
[02:21] <pepsi> ThE__OnE, you may want to ask in #xchat
[02:22] <ablyss> i routed my eth1 but not with wifi
[02:22] <ablyss> also i used iptables not shorewall
[02:23] <X7C> i also did that but the problem i come at is that when i try to start shorewall it won't recognize wlan0 cause it is not defined in /etc/network/interfaces but is defined by the start_net script for wifi stuff
[02:23] <kong0> i installed ubuntu 2day and i like it more every second
[02:23] <X7C> for D-Link....
[02:23] <microhaxo> how the hell do i run CEDEGA?
[02:23] <bl4cktone> same here kong0 I love this thing just installed it today also
[02:23] <microhaxo> cedega install.exe?
[02:23] <xed> install.exe?!
[02:23] <ThE__OnE> lol, srry, i thought they were talking about pressing OK
[02:23] <microhaxo> for
[02:24] <microhaxo> apps
[02:24] <xed> I'm so lost now.
[02:24] <microhaxo> omg
[02:24] <microhaxo> to EMULATE A EXE
[02:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> try #cedega the will help you there
[02:24] <kong0> but ive heard from many that ubuntu would be *less good* :P , than madrake or gentoo
[02:24] <cthulfuego> kong0: Why would it be less good?
[02:25] <kong0> its not that avdenced i guess
[02:25] <cthulfuego> kong0: Are those people mandrake or gentoo usres that haven't ever tried ubuntu?
[02:25] <waterbeetle> anyone know how to run a jnlp file?  i have java installed correctly
[02:25] <bl4cktone> I got ubuntu for my inspiron 9300 everything is running even wireless just need to get bluetooth going
[02:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i tryed gentoo it sucked
[02:25] <kong0> the dude i know who has gentoo says that gentoo is best...
[02:25] <cthulfuego> kong0: Ubuntu is based on Debian, which is far more advanced than both Gentoo and Mandrake combined <heh>
[02:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> to many things to manually do
[02:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and the compile time where horrid
[02:25] <kong0> nah think many have tried everything b4 they settle with something
[02:25] <cthulfuego> kong0: Gentoo is mainly a large waste of time
[02:25] <ablyss> depends on how you define advanced
[02:26] <tuxrocks> can anyone help me?
[02:26] <tuxrocks> phpmyadmin isnt coming up
[02:26] <tuxrocks> there is just a blank page
[02:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how do i change the name of my harddrive?
[02:26] <kong0> ur offered more control in gentoo that i am pretty convinced of
[02:26] <tuxrocks> but no error message
[02:27] <ablyss> cthulfuego, nice bro
[02:27] <kong0> Is devian more advanced than gentoo or mandrake? then why is it good for beginners?
[02:27] <flodine> is anyone on raid using ubuntu
[02:27] <anto9us> kong0: they're not mutually exclusive concepts
[02:27] <cthulfuego> kong0: Becuase it comes with precompiled software that uses sane default settings.
[02:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> becuase it just works
[02:27] <waterbeetle> I want to run a jnpl file in firefox, but when I do it just opens a blank browser... any ideas?
[02:27] <flodine> can ubuntu do raid
[02:27] <cthulfuego> kong0: Amnd due to the way the precompiled packages are created, it's easy to tweak them if you need to.
[02:27] <kong0> huh? english or at least latin :P
[02:28] <anto9us> flodine: yes
[02:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes it can
[02:28] <cthulfuego> flodine: Yes
[02:28] <tuxrocks> phpmyadmin isnt coming up there is just a blank page, any ideas??
[02:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i am running software raid 1
[02:28] <flodine> do i need drivers to do raid in buntu
[02:28] <anto9us> kong0: one doesn't discount the other
[02:28] <kong0> remember folks i installed it today (or yesterday?)...so be patient
[02:28] <kong0> guess so
[02:28] <cthulfuego> flodine: Don't use a promise or highpoint "card" in raid mode.
[02:29] <vHintswen> i'm in xorgconfig but i don't know what my vedio card is, what can i do?
[02:29] <cthulfuego> flodine: Use them in iode mode and set up kernel software raid.
[02:29] <microhaxo> how do you convert TAR to DEB?
[02:29] <tuxrocks> phpmyadmin isnt coming up there is just a blank page, any ideas?
[02:29] <cthulfuego> 'lspci'
[02:29] <skaller> in case anyone is interested, breezy install manual C.4.2. Install debootstrap could need updating
[02:30] <kong0> it just seems like the "leets" should tinker with ubuntu if that were the case
[02:30] <microhaxo> yo, how do i convert a .tar to .deb
[02:30] <microhaxo> ?
[02:30] <skaller> says this:# tar -xf debootstrap_0.X.X_arch.deb
[02:30] <skaller> # cd /
[02:30] <skaller> # zcat /full-path-to-work/work/data.tar.gz | tar xv
[02:30] <kong0> does anybody know what linux torvalds use?
[02:30] <vHintswen> i'm in xorgconfig but i don't know what my vedio card is, what can i do?
[02:30] <kong0> is it GNU?
[02:30] <LinuxJones> kong0, a macintosh
[02:30] <skaller> correct instruction is to unpack debootstrap_0.X.X_arch.tar.gz
[02:30] <cthulfuego> kong0: Well, I do! ;-)
[02:30] <kong0> lol
[02:31] <kong0> u serious?
[02:31] <CountDown> kong0: yup.
[02:31] <microhaxo> anyone
[02:31] <skaller> then ./debootstrap .... breezy ...
[02:31] <microhaxo> how the hell do you convert .tar to .deb
[02:31] <kong0> the Creator is using Mac...
[02:31] <HrdwrBoB> microhaxo: you don't
[02:31] <LinuxJones> kong0, >> http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/0,39023165,39183867,00.htm
[02:31] <CountDown> microhaxo: chill.  first untar the file.
[02:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wonder why?
[02:31] <vHintswen> i'm in xorgconfig but i don't know what my vedio card is, what can i do?
[02:31] <kong0> well i guess tiger seems like a lot of fun
[02:31] <cthulfuego> kong0: Just because I prfer to not spend my time waiting for source to compile dopesn't mean I'm not an advanced user. I've been waiting for compiles since bloody 1996. No need or inclination to keep doing that.
[02:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> did he change it to some form of linux?
[02:31] <zerokills> guys, im having trouble with my sound and video: Totem movie player plays the sound but no video, VLC plays the video but no sound... any ideas?
[02:32] <kong0> try to start them both at the same time :P
[02:32] <CountDown> microhaxo: Are you familiar with the tar command?
[02:32] <zerokills> hehe, i was thinkin that too ;p
[02:32] <kong0> meant no offense dude
[02:33] <vHintswen> i'm in xorgconfig but i don't know what my vedio card is, what can i do?
[02:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i got ubuntu to run on a p233 with 32mb ram today
[02:33] <cthulfuego> vHintswen: Run 'lspci' in a console.
[02:33] <waterbeetle> java webstart a jnlp file?  howto?
[02:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> works good
[02:33] <CountDown> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Whoa, cool.  Did you have to do anything special for that?
[02:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nope
[02:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> just update the vid card a little
[02:33] <vHintswen> thx
[02:33] <cthulfuego> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I assume you're not running Gnome on it?
[02:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it was a compaq deskpro
[02:33] <CountDown> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Just the install disk?  Can you run OO.org?
[02:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes i am
[02:33] <cthulfuego> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Are you _insane_ ?
[02:34] <microhaxo> ok
[02:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nope runs smooth too ^_^
[02:34] <microhaxo> i untared it
[02:34] <CountDown> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Your drive must be grinding doing all that swapping.
[02:34] <microhaxo> its a folder
[02:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> surprised the hell outta me
[02:34] <microhaxo> with other folders
[02:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nope
[02:34] <microhaxo> now what
[02:34] <cthulfuego> it doesn't even run smoothly on a box with 256Mb here
[02:34] <waterbeetle> linux brings new life to old computers...
[02:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i thought it would but to my surprise it just worked
[02:34] <CountDown> microhaxo: Hmm.  Does it look like there's a .deb in there?  what kind of files are there?
[02:34] <microhaxo> folders
[02:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no hi swapping or nothin
[02:34] <Nard> ok guys
[02:34] <microhaxo> .sh
[02:34] <microhaxo> ?
[02:35] <microhaxo> usr
[02:35] <microhaxo> bin, lib share
[02:35] <cthulfuego> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Um. Xorg uses more ram to run that that box has. it *has* to swap if it were to run Gnome.
[02:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i just did a normal install and it worked download times and compile times where
[02:35] <Nard> When i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up
[02:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> something to be desired
[02:35] <kong0> *SLOW REACTION* ouch dude
[02:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> well it has one of those noisy hard drives ya know
[02:36] <vHintswen> how can i check how much memory i got on my card?
[02:36] <iamnow> whats a good calendar?
[02:36] <siimo> hi can the guy that was telling  me to use checkinstall for gaim, how do i use it?
[02:36] <CountDown> I have no idea what kind of files you have, but it seems that you are meant to run the shell script (.sh) to do something.  Doing so could be very bad if you don't trust the source of these files.
[02:36] <kong0> im going to dl some naruto :P
[02:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's actually running ver quiet you can tell when it's seeking and looking for data
[02:36] <Nannohiiri> paska
[02:36] <vHintswen> how can i check how much memory i got on my vedio card?
[02:36] <Nannohiiri> pissa
[02:36] <Nannohiiri> paskapas
[02:36] <Nannohiiri> paskapas
[02:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it makes noises only a 3.2 gighd but it runs
[02:37] <vHintswen> ?
[02:37] <Nannohiiri> wher is the hacking buton on plinxu?
[02:37] <Nannohiiri> i want to know
[02:37] <kong0> man, u gotta love theese forums
[02:37] <Nannohiiri> help me i ge tmy
[02:37] <Nannohiiri> mandrake fixed
[02:37] <Nard> so can any one help me
[02:37] <vHintswen> how can i check how much memory i got on my vedio card?
[02:37] <eirh> how i can
[02:37] <Nannohiiri> i installed mandrake 6.3 4 hours
[02:37] <siimo> vHintswen, what card
[02:37] <eirh> hack
[02:37] <eirh> microsift.com
[02:37] <Nannohiiri> wher is hacking button
[02:37] <eirh> i hate
[02:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> then i had to try it on a mac 5400/120 and it works just fine there too
[02:37] <eirh> because my windowsi is brokening
[02:37] <Nannohiiri> i tould that the linux is hacking for hacker
[02:37] <eirh> hahahaha!
[02:37] <eirh> thats why i using ubuntu
[02:37] <eirh> its so cool
[02:37] <Nannohiiri> hahaha! eirh you stupid be quiet i was here first u stupid
[02:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea it is
[02:38] <eirh> i like the open sourcdi!!
[02:38] <vHintswen> lol no clue
[02:38] <eirh> you can edit it much!
[02:38] <eirh> but how i hack???
[02:38] <siimo> no clue??
[02:38] <Nannohiiri> i care about that it is open source
[02:38] <vHintswen> lspci gave me a few results dunno which is vedio card
[02:38] <eirh> i had hacking program
[02:38] <Nannohiiri> i can do somehthing with it
[02:38] <Nannohiiri> 99% can
[02:38] <eirh> just was hacking putong
[02:38] <Nannohiiri> i think
[02:38] <LinuxJones> Nannohiiri, stop spamming
[02:38] <Nard>  When i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up
[02:38] <eirh> where is linux hacking buton
[02:38] <eirh> i wahtin!!1
[02:38] <siimo> vHintswen, which one says VGA
[02:38] <eirh> YOU STUPID ASSHOLES
[02:38] <Nannohiiri> linuxjones stop gaying
[02:38] <eirh> WHY DONT YOU TELL ME
[02:38] <eirh> YOU IDIOTS
[02:38] <vHintswen> 1 sec
[02:38] <eirh> HAHAHAHA!!!
[02:38] <eirh> IM GONA HACKER YOU
[02:38] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHA
[02:38] <Nannohiiri> IM TOO
[02:38] <eirh> I HAVE MAB NET TOOLS V3
[02:38] <eirh> YOU STUPIDS
[02:38] <Nannohiiri> EIRH COME TO MY ANTILINUXHACKINGLCNA?
[02:38] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
[02:38] <eirh> =DXD
[02:38] <eirh> YEAH
[02:38] <Nannohiiri> PLEESE?
[02:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wow dude that was quite rude
[02:38] <Nannohiiri> PLESE
[02:38] <eirh> LETS GO THERE
[02:39] <Nard> WILL SOMEONEHELP ME!!!!!!!!
[02:39] <Nannohiiri> ok
[02:39] <Nard>  When i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up
[02:39] <eirh> #LINUXHACKERZ
[02:39] <Nannohiiri> #89248949843
[02:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> now shut up and go away
[02:39] <eirh> YOU SHUTTING UP
[02:39] <eirh> YOU STUPIDOSZ
[02:39] <eirh> I HATEING U
[02:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> before you invoke my squerlly rath
[02:39] <eirh> WHY DONT YOU TELL ME WHERE IS HACKING BUTTOn
[02:39] <Nannohiiri> #89248949843
[02:39] <Nannohiiri> #89248949843
[02:39] <Nannohiiri> #89248949843
[02:39] <Nannohiiri> #89248949843
[02:39] <Nannohiiri> #89248949843
[02:39] <Nannohiiri> #89248949843
[02:39] <Nannohiiri> #89248949843
[02:39] <HrdwrBoB> ChurcH_of_FoamY: squirrely
[02:39] <eirh> YOU WANT IT FOR YOURSELFING
[02:39] <Nannohiiri> #89248949843
[02:39] <eirh> I KNOWING
[02:39] <eirh> YOU STUPID
[02:39] <Nannohiiri> come ther
[02:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> good now go away you 10 tear old fucktard
[02:39] <eirh> ASSHOLES
[02:39] <Nard> HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!
[02:39] <Nannohiiri> i hack u then
[02:39] <Nannohiiri> #89248949843
[02:39] <Nard>  When i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up
[02:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thanx
[02:39] <eirh> YOU STUPID
[02:39] <Nannohiiri> #89248949843
[02:39] <Nannohiiri> #89248949843
[02:39] <eirh> TELL ME
[02:39] <eirh> WHERE
[02:39] <eirh> IS
[02:39] <Nannohiiri> #89248949843
[02:39] <eirh> LINUx
[02:39] <eirh> HACKING
[02:39] <eirh> BUTTOn
[02:39] <Nannohiiri> JJOIN #89248949843
[02:39] <eirh> YOU
[02:39] <likkashot> common
[02:39] <eirh> STUPID
[02:39] <eirh> ASSHOLES
[02:39] <eirh> =!!!?!?!?!?!?
[02:39] <Nannohiiri> THER IS NO HACING BUTON
[02:39] <iamnow> isnt there a gnome calendar?
[02:39] <eirh> TELLING
[02:39] <ablyss> iggy time
[02:39] <eirh> ????
[02:40] <eirh> ISTN TNERE?
[02:40] <kong0> is he spamming or something?
[02:40] <LinuxJones> la la la la
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> ALL THE STUF ABOUT linuX HACKinG IS FALSE
[02:40] <eirh> but i have nmap
[02:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can sumone kick this asshat please?
[02:40] <eirh> i hack you with it
[02:40] <likkashot> hey kid stop that
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> THey liED TO uS
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> STUPid GATs
[02:40] <eirh> hey grown up jerk off!
[02:40] <cthulfuego> iamnow: Evolution has calendaring capabilities.
[02:40] <microhaxo> wtf
[02:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> he gives linux a bad vibe
[02:40] <microhaxo> ?
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> .j #89248949843
[02:40] <eirh> =D xD =D xD= DXD= DxD
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> .j #89248949843
[02:40] <eirh> =Dx D =)D XD
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> .j #89248949843
[02:40] <eirh> =D:P
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> .j #89248949843
[02:40] <eirh> =DXD
[02:40] <eirh> =d
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> .j #89248949843
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> .j #89248949843
[02:40] <eirh> x
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> .j #89248949843
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> .j #89248949843
[02:40] <iamnow> cthulfuego: ok ill look thanks
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> #89248949843
[02:40] <eirh> i am linuxguru
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> #89248949843
[02:40] <eirh> ask meanything
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> #89248949843
[02:40] <eirh> i will tell you
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> j #89248949843
[02:40] <eirh> i am linux pro
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> j #89248949843
[02:40] <Nard>  When i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> i am linuxgayry
[02:40] <eirh> proer than any of you
[02:40] <eirh> hahahahaha!
[02:40] <eirh> you stupid noobs!
[02:40] <vHintswen> Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  5597/5598/6326 VGA (rev 68)
[02:40] <eirh> hahahahahaha
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> hahaha lol
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> #89248949843
[02:40] <Nannohiiri> .j #89248949843
[02:40] <eirh> im gonna pwn you with my linux knowledge
[02:40] <eirh> hahahahahahahha!!!
[02:40] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
[02:40] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
[02:40] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
[02:40] <cthulfuego> bob2/Amaranth/any ops: it's weekend, thus there are teenage trolls. Can you kindly squish them?
[02:40] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
[02:40] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
[02:40] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
[02:40] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
[02:40] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
[02:41] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
[02:41] <Nannohiiri> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[02:41] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
[02:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes please
[02:41] <microhaxo> what was that gunzip command>?
[02:41] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
[02:41] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
[02:41] <Nannohiiri> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[02:41] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
[02:41] <Nannohiiri> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[02:41] <Nard>  When i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up and i have never gotten a avi fiel to play before either
[02:41] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
[02:41] <Nannohiiri> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[02:41] <thenuke> ircops?
[02:41] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
[02:41] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
[02:41] <Nannohiiri> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[02:41] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
[02:41] <unreal> err, that's constructive isn't it
[02:41] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
[02:41] <eirh> HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
[02:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> gotta love morons
[02:41] <vHintswen> Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  5597/5598/6326 VGA (rev 68)
[02:41] <kong0> right click eirh and choose kill this dude
[02:41] <likkashot> fuck and I came here for help
[02:41] <thenuke> btw, is there a channel for freenode ircops?
[02:41] <cthulfuego> ChurcH_of_FoamY: if you don't feed them, they'll get bored and leave.
[02:41] <hondje> thenuke: #freenode
[02:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok i get it lol
[02:41] <UdontKnow> thenuke: yes
[02:41] <thenuke> hondje: ok, thanks
[02:41] <Nard>  When i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up and i have never gotten a avi fiel to play before either
[02:41] <UdontKnow> hondje: I am here
[02:41] <kong0> who needed to know how u saw how much mb u had on your video card?
[02:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thanx for the tip ^_^
[02:42] <cthulfuego> ChurcH_of_FoamY: '/ignore <kids>' works fine.
[02:42] <nalioth> haha excess flood
[02:42] <hondje> The power of Freenode :O
[02:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[02:42] <LinuxJones> this channel needs ops around this is bs
[02:42] <unreal> heh
[02:42] <nalioth> LinuxJones: yes i agree
[02:42] <Nard> so is everyon done flooding and all
[02:42] <hondje> Op me....
[02:42] <Nard> so they can help me
[02:42] <kong0> nobody needed to know that?
[02:42] <UdontKnow> unreal: oi
[02:43] <Nard>  When i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up and i have never gotten a avi fiel to play before either
[02:43] <unreal> UdontKnow: hmm?
[02:43] <LinuxJones> nalioth, there are about 100 regulars who are here all the time, give some of permissions to kick those trolls :D
[02:43] <UdontKnow> unreal: oi means hello
[02:43] <unreal> heh
[02:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> that would be nice ^_^
[02:43] <microhaxo> guys i have a debian file, how do i install it?
[02:43] <unreal> UdontKnow: I noticed lilo removed me from the #freenode autovoice list again, for no reason at all (i've been idle for the last 5 months :P)
[02:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb
[02:44] <microhaxo> k
[02:44] <nalioth> LinuxJones: i agree
[02:44] <likkashot> I need to install a driver but it need the kernel headers , i thought I have them but it doesnt work anything I could do to have it
[02:44] <uyu> wenas
[02:44] <Nard>  When i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up and i have never gotten a avi fiel to play before either
[02:44] <uyu> alguno me ayuda
[02:44] <cthulfuego> !es
[02:44] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:44] <nalioth> Nard: hold up!
[02:44] <likkashot> habla frances
[02:45] <unreal> would anyone here have a clue why my USB keyboard works, and the USB mouse doesn't? or maybe the mouse doesn't work at all in pure-console mode
[02:45] <nalioth> Nard: if someone knwos the answer to your question, they will speak up
[02:45] <microhaxo> how do you install software thats i386 for a amd64 machine?
[02:45] <Nard> ok
[02:45] <nalioth> Nard: give the same queston a rest for a few minutes
[02:45] <likkashot> I need to install a driver but it need the kernel headers , i thought I have them but it doesnt work anything I could do to have it
[02:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> brb smoke brake
[02:45] <Jimbob> likkashot: open a terminal and type "uname  -a" then paste the result
[02:45] <LinuxJones> ChurcH_of_FoamY, good idea
[02:45] <kong0> how do you change to afk?
[02:45] <likkashot> Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic
[02:46] <nalioth> kong0: you get out of your chair and walk away
[02:46] <Nard> haha
[02:46] <vHintswen> lol
[02:46] <vHintswen> there's no "afk" on IRC
[02:46] <vHintswen> try: /nick kong0|AFK
[02:46] <eb0x> How do I change the way my terminal outputs
[02:46] <eb0x> For example
[02:46] <kong0|afk> fett
[02:47] <eyequeue> sheesh no, set an away status rather than annoying nickchanges
[02:47] <kong0|afk> oh sry
[02:47] <eb0x> I saw someone had this: wcampbel@botbay (rsa_respond): blah blah
[02:47] <eb0x> but i have eb0x@ubuntu:~ $
[02:47] <eb0x> How do I change it?
[02:47] <cthulfuego> kong0|afk: Try just not typing, as opposed to changing the nickl or using an /away spam. People can see you've been idle via /whois anyway.
[02:47] <Jimbob> likkashot: Ok, run sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic
[02:47] <kong0|afk> man im so used to writing in my own language...
[02:47] <unreal> would anyone here have a clue why my USB keyboard works, and the USB mouse doesn't?
[02:47] <MidnightDevil> heya
[02:48] <microhaxo> guys
[02:48] <MidnightDevil> i have a question about apache
[02:48] <cthulfuego> eb0x: man bash; seatch for 'PS1'
[02:48] <microhaxo> i have point2play
[02:48] <microhaxo> and it wont install!
[02:48] <MidnightDevil> it hangs when i try to start it
[02:48] <eyequeue> kong0|afk:  alt-a in that client
[02:48] <thenuke> unreal: did you have ps/2 mouse before that USB-mouse?
[02:48] <kong0> well im off for awhile then
[02:48] <unreal> nope
[02:48] <eb0x> cthulfuego: Thank you :)
[02:48] <likkashot> nstall linux-headers-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic
[02:48] <likkashot> Reading package lists... Done
[02:48] <likkashot> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:48] <likkashot> linux-headers-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic is already the newest version.
[02:48] <likkashot> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:48] <MidnightDevil> the question is - how do i completly remove it from my system ? cleaning all the crap
[02:48] <unreal> it's a wireless keyboard and mouse that use the same USB receiver
[02:48] <unreal> the keyboard works, but the mouse doesn't, which is weird
[02:48] <eyequeue> MidnightDevil:  sudo dpkg --purge apache2
[02:49] <unreal> (and no the batteries haven't ran out :P)
[02:49] <kong0> no wait..
[02:49] <kong0> I actually had a question..
[02:49] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep apache | xargs apt-get remove --purge
[02:49] <Jimbob> likkashot: Could you paste the output of your driver build to #flood?
[02:49] <kong0> as im new here i dont know how to install zip files...
[02:49] <kong0> should i extract and then do what?
[02:49] <likkashot> ok
[02:50] <eyequeue> kong0:  uncompress?  unzip foo.zip
[02:50] <nalioth> kong0: extract adn read the README
[02:50] <MidnightDevil> eyequeue it still lefts a apache2 at init.d
[02:50] <kong0> hate read me's
[02:50] <Nard> can i ask my question again yet nalioth
[02:50] <vHintswen> then read it :P
[02:50] <Razor-X> nalioth: http://www.kainx.org/journal/?view=20020202
[02:50] <MidnightDevil> cthulfuego E: Couldn't find package ii
[02:50] <eyequeue> MidnightDevil:  sudo dpkg --purge apache2 would remove /etc/init.d/apache2
[02:50] <kong0> yeah alright
[02:50] <unreal> thenuke: have any idea?
[02:50] <cthulfuego> kong0: Well, that's what you get when you install 3rd party software.
[02:50] <Razor-X> there's eterm's coder bitching up a storm
[02:50] <kong0> hehe
[02:50] <MidnightDevil> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove apache2 which isn't installed.
[02:50] <MidnightDevil> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove would which isn't installed.
[02:50] <MidnightDevil> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove remove which isn't installed.
[02:50] <MidnightDevil> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove /etc/init.d/apache2 which isn't installed.
[02:50] <Razor-X> but I think he has every right, IMO
[02:50] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: oops!
[02:50] <kong0> life's a bitch
[02:50] <MidnightDevil> ups, sorry :/ but it still there.
[02:51] <kong0> cya then
[02:51] <Nard>  When i play .avi files in mplayer they are extremely slow and choppy. These avi files are anime which has subtitles so i am wondering if there is somehting i have to set up and i have never gotten a avi fiel to play before either
[02:51] <eyequeue> MidnightDevil:  sudo dpkg --purge apache2 would remove /etc/init.d/apache2 <-- that is a sentence
[02:51] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep apache | awk '{ print $2 }' | xargs apt-get remove --purge
[02:52] <eyequeue> MidnightDevil:  sudo dpkg --purge apache2 <-- that is a command
[02:52] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: You can also replace 'apt-get remove --purge' with 'dpkg -P'
[02:52] <eyequeue> MidnightDevil:  but apache2 is already gone
[02:52] <cthulfuego> eyequeue: it'
[02:53] <cthulfuego> s probably in 'rc' status, meaning the config files are still there (including init)
[02:53] <eyequeue> cthulfuego:  not after a dpkg --purge
[02:53] <MidnightDevil> eyequeue it still hanging when something tries to run it, even if its to stop the service
[02:53] <MidnightDevil> cthulfuego it hangs when trying to stop apache2
[02:53] <cthulfuego> eyequeue: Has he run that yet?
[02:53] <MidnightDevil> if i dont ctrl + c the stopping process takes the whole mem
[02:53] <MidnightDevil> enough to knoc down X
[02:54] <eyequeue> cthulfuego:  he even ran "sudo dpkg --purge apache2 would remove /etc/init.d/apache2" heh
[02:54] <MidnightDevil> root 8539 99.5 21.7 92116 87652 pts/0 R+ 01:36 1:36 apache2 -t
[02:54] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: edit /etc/init.d/apache2 and make the second line read 'ext 0' without quotes. Then try dpkg --purge apache2 again.
[02:54] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: sorry, 'exit 0' not 'ext 0'
[02:54] <virgule> Just a few words to let the world know what's my opinion about Ubuntu Hoary--> YEEEAAH!!!! finally a distro that work the right way: fast, clean, easy-enough, well maintained and all the rest <-- ::cheese::
[02:54] <eyequeue> s/ext/exit/
[02:55] <MidnightDevil> okay
[02:56] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: That will make the stop command exit immediately and force dpkg to remove it.
[02:57] <MidnightDevil> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove apache2 which isn't installed.
[02:57] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: Then /etc/init.d/apache2 should not exist anymore.
[02:57] <MidnightDevil> its there
[02:58] <cthulfuego> !find /etc/init.d/apache2
[02:58] <MidnightDevil> u thing that something else other then apache itself is doing it
[02:58] <MidnightDevil> root@devil:/etc/init.d # find /etc/init.d/apache2
[02:58] <MidnightDevil> /etc/init.d/apache2
[02:58] <myss> Hello, I am new to linux. Where can I write my personal startup scripts?
[02:58] <Spug> in a text editor
[02:59] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: That was a bot command, not one for you ;-)
[02:59] <MidnightDevil> or vi! :)
[02:59] <myss> :) thanks
[02:59] <billytwowilly> lol. I upgraded firefox and now I can get to https://www.webmail.shaw.ca because firefox says it doesn't have any common encryption protocols with that url.
[02:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of '/etc/init.d/apache2' returned no results.
[02:59] <MidnightDevil> cthulfuego lol, well worked either way :P
[02:59] <Spug> MidnightDevil: vi is a text editor :(
[02:59] <eyequeue> myss:  stsem > preferences > session
[02:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> back
[02:59] <myss> whicj file should I open with that text editor?
[02:59] <MidnightDevil> and isnt it nice ?
[02:59] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: Are there any other apache packages installed?
[02:59] <myss> ok
[02:59] <Spug> MidnightDevil: yes!
[02:59] <waterbeetle> anyone know how to run a jnpl file in firefox?
[02:59] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: apache2-common maybe?
[02:59] <eyequeue> myss:  system > preferences > session
[02:59] <MidnightDevil> cthulfuego i had apache and apache2, but apache is gone
[02:59] <Spug> MidnightDevil: although i prefer vim ;)
[03:00] <kong0> lol i was trying to watch an .avi movie and all i got was sound (pretty nice) and some laggy bubbles (supposedly som screen saver in the player) i used totem, tried to that same file with mplayer and nothing happened...except now i cant turn mplayer off....what should i do?
[03:00] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: apache2-mpm-prefork maybe?
[03:00] <MidnightDevil> anyway to apache* ?
[03:00] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: dpkg -l | grep apache
[03:00] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: ANything with sttaus 'ii' or 'rc' still has files on the system.
[03:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm
[03:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> somehow i installed mozilla stuff i'm not gonna use :(
[03:01] <unreal> would anyone here have a clue why my USB keyboard works, and the USB mouse doesn't?
[03:01] <unreal> it's a wireless keyboard and mouse that use the same USB receiver
[03:01] <MidnightDevil> where can o copy past 4 lines?
[03:01] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: Just paste *only* the package names.
[03:02] <kong0> ok i wrote something really long and big and everybody just ignores it...
[03:02] <MidnightDevil> apache2-common
[03:02] <MidnightDevil> apache-mpm-wo
[03:02] <MidnightDevil> apache2-utils
[03:02] <MidnightDevil> when i try to remove apache2-common i get:
[03:02] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: Remove apache2-mpm-worker first
[03:02] <kong0> im just going to have to watch the movie on my WINDOWS (holywater against linux geeks)
[03:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hey holy water don't work on us
[03:03] <kong0> holy **** nobody reacted on that...
[03:03] <vHintswen> yewah... WINDOWS works LINUX doesn't
[03:03] <vHintswen> yeah*
[03:03] <concept10> stop trying to stir up the zealots
[03:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> pats out falms from holy water
[03:03] <eyequeue> bah
[03:03] <cthulfuego> Are those trolls still here?
[03:03] <MidnightDevil> cthulfuego i got a /etc/init.d/apache2: line 2: ext: command not found
[03:03] <DanielC> kong0:  :-)
[03:03] <concept10> kong0, whats your problem?
[03:03] <MidnightDevil> invoke-rc.d: initscript apache2, action "stop" failed.
[03:03] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: 'exit ' not 'ext'
[03:03] <MidnightDevil> subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127
[03:03] <MidnightDevil> oh ok cthulfuego
[03:04] <MidnightDevil> sorry didint got that :)
[03:04] <DanielC> kong0:  I wish I could help you. I don't know how to play .avi files on Ubuntu.
[03:04] <DanielC> concept10: kong0 is asking about playing .avi files. He's only getting sound on totem.
[03:04] <concept10> DanielC, kong0 - install gxine and w32 codecs and totem-xine
[03:05] <concept10> kong0, do you have win32 codecs?
[03:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> www.illwillpress.com new foamy cartoon ^_^
[03:05] <MidnightDevil> now when i try list the apache packages i get this
[03:05] <MidnightDevil> root@devil:/etc/init.d # dpkg -l | grep apache
[03:05] <MidnightDevil> rc apache2-common 2.0.54-4
[03:05] <concept10> kong0, the default totem uses gstreamer, doesnt work on system either, install totem-xine instead
[03:05] <MidnightDevil> but when i try to remove it i get Package apache2-common is not installed, so not removed
[03:05] <litheum> i have seen ** (gnome-cups-icon:12721): WARNING **: failed request with status 1030 about six million times
[03:06] <concept10> kong0, open up synaptic
[03:06] <DanielC> concept10:  Is gxine and totem-xine on the archives? Where would I find the w32 codecs? I do have access to a Windows system (though I don't really use it).
[03:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm weard no sound >.<
[03:07] <concept10> DanielC, kong0 - open up synaptic I will tell you what to get
[03:07] <kong0> open
[03:07] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: yes, run 'dpkg -P apache2-common'
[03:07] <concept10> kong0, type totem in search
[03:07] <MidnightDevil> cthulfuego anyway to run that command leaving /var/www/ alone?
[03:07] <MidnightDevil> :)
[03:07] <kong0> ok
[03:07] <concept10> kong0, do you have totem-gstreamer installed????
[03:08] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: copy /var/www to elsewhere, then run it,.
[03:08] <kong0> not anymore...now i got xine
[03:08] <DanielC> concept10: I'm following your instructions. I see totem-xine. I have totem-gstreamer installed but not totem-xine.
[03:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm no sound in mozilla any ideas guys?
[03:08] <kong0> i have only xine i think i replaced it with the terminal install of xine
[03:09] <MidnightDevil> yay!
[03:09] <MidnightDevil> removed
[03:09] <MidnightDevil> .D
[03:09] <concept10> DanielC, kong0 - mark totem-xine for installation it should uninstall totem-gstreamer
[03:09] <kong0> ok done
[03:09] <DanielC> concept10: yup. done.
[03:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> damnit first time i've had this problem
[03:09] <concept10> kong0, also install w32 codecs (type in search box)
[03:10] <j_> Anybody have working a SBLIve with MIDI?
[03:10] <concept10> search 'w32'
[03:10] <kong0> already have that one
[03:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok i have sound in ubuntu but when i try to play a cartoon
[03:10] <concept10> okay, apply and then try to play avis and let me know
[03:10] <DanielC> concept10: I see mingw32, no codecs.
[03:10] <MidnightDevil> cthulfuego seems to be removed now. to install it again, apt-get install apache2 ?
[03:10] <kong0> but that requires some silvebelll wometing
[03:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i have no sound in the cartoon any ideas?
[03:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> why can't i kill this process?
[03:11] <kong0> search w32codec
[03:11] <kong0> i foun
[03:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> 1000      6176  0.1  1.0  16328 10248 pts/0    D    18:07   0:00 thoggen
[03:11] <kong0> d
[03:11] <concept10> DanielC, you might need to update your repositories - did you try to search for w32?
[03:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> kill -9 6176 isn't working.
[03:11] <j_> Anybody have working a SBLIve with MIDI?
[03:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kong0 me?
[03:11] <DanielC> concept10: yes.
[03:11] <kong0> church no not u :P
[03:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok lol
[03:11] <concept10> DanielC, you might need to add repos
[03:12] <kong0> linux is more user friendly than i thought it would be...
[03:12] <concept10> DanielC, have you added repos from the ubuntuguide?
[03:12] <likkashot> notI
[03:12] <DanielC> concept10: I have not.
[03:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i kill a process?
[03:12] <DanielC> concept10: I guess I'll go to ubuntuguide.org and read up on this.
[03:12] <concept10> DanielC, thats why you dont see them
[03:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> damnit i can't get sound with my toons >.<
[03:13] <waterbeetle> any help with jnlp ?
[03:13] <concept10> BROKEN_LADDER, kill <process number>
[03:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> they play but no sound
[03:13] <DanielC> concept10: Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I'll go read.
[03:13] <concept10> DanielC, np
[03:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> concept10 i'm doing that.  not working.
[03:13] <kong0> GOD DAMN THIS IS COOOL!!! it works...thx concept10
[03:13] <kong0> i love linux
[03:13] <DanielC> :-)
[03:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> 1000      6160 14.0  4.2  67872 42980 pts/0    D+   17:55   2:33 thoggen
[03:14] <likkashot> I love linux when it works fine
[03:14] <kong0> daniel it is easy
[03:14] <DanielC> I love Deiban derivatives.
[03:14] <likkashot> :(
[03:14] <concept10> BROKEN_LADDER, it may have more than one process
[03:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone have any idea why i can't play sound in my cartoons?
[03:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> kill -9 6160
[03:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> that same process is still in ps
[03:14] <likkashot> for 3 days now I cant fix shit
[03:14] <likkashot> sorry
[03:14] <MidnightDevil> cthulfuego seems to be removed now. to install it again, apt-get install apache2 ?
[03:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> concept10 i keep killing that process but it still shows up.
[03:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it flash player 7 i'm using
[03:14] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: yep
[03:14] <kong0> just open the terminal wich is located in applications - system - terminal
[03:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> concept10 i did 'killall thoggen' and it's still in there.
[03:14] <waterbeetle> javaws or jnlp in firefox?  help?
[03:14] <concept10> BROKEN_LADDER, what are you trying to kill?
[03:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> thoggen
[03:15] <kong0> and write following: sudo apt-get install totem xine
[03:15] <MidnightDevil> ok :)
[03:15] <concept10> ps aux | grep thoggen
[03:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> am i doing something wrong?
[03:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> i did that.
[03:15] <concept10> BROKEN_LADDER, how many processes show up?
[03:15] <cthulfuego> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Yes, you're using flash.
[03:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> 1000      6160 12.7  4.2  67872 42980 pts/0    D+   17:55   2:33 thoggen
[03:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> 1000      6176  0.0  1.0  16328 10248 pts/0    D    18:07   0:00 thoggen
[03:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh is there something else i should be using to play it then?
[03:16] <MidnightDevil> cthulfuego it seems to be behaving the same way it was before, when i try to start the service, it hangs, nothing happens, i have to ctrl + c to continue, and meanwhile it takes the whole mem!
[03:16] <concept10> kill 6160 && kill 6176
[03:16] <cthulfuego> ChurcH_of_FoamY: No, it's just that flash is broken at the best of time.
[03:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> doesn't work.
[03:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> damnit
[03:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> still there in ps aux
[03:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> that bites a$$
[03:16] <concept10> BROKEN_LADDER, what is thoggen?
[03:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> when will they fix it?
[03:17] <RastaMahata> killall -9 thoggen
[03:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> concept10 a dvd ripping and encoding app that uses ogg theora.=
[03:17] <cthulfuego> ChurcH_of_FoamY: dpkg-reconfigure -plow mozilla-firefox and see if it asks the sound wrapper question again.
[03:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> RastaMahata  doesn't work.
[03:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> do i have to sudo that?
[03:17] <cthulfuego> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Macromedia needs to open he flash player for it to be fixed, and that's not going to happen.
[03:17] <cthulfuego> ChurcH_of_FoamY: yes
[03:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok thanx
[03:17] <cthulfuego> The stupid thing *only* works on Linux x86.
[03:18] <kong0> where can i get jawa to linux?
[03:18] <concept10> BROKEN_LADDER, oh well - sometimes when that happens to me, i log off and I log back on and check again
[03:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> sweet jesus.
[03:18] <MidnightDevil> cthulfuego it seems to be behaving the same way it was before, when i try to start the service, it hangs, nothing happens, i have to ctrl + c to continue, and meanwhile it takes the whole mem!
[03:18] <RastaMahata> I hate java :@
[03:18] <kong0> would really like to have it since i want to have azerues
[03:18] <cthulfuego> kong0: Go to java.sun.com and doenload the jre 1.5 .bin file (NOT the .rpm.bin)
[03:18] <kong0> how do i install that?
[03:18] <concept10> kong0, have you read the ubuntuguide.org?
[03:19] <kong0> no way man
[03:19] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: Dunno then. ANything in bug reports on ubuntuforums?
[03:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> damnit no it dosent
[03:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it just updated the regestry
[03:19] <kong0> im a practical man learn by do....
[03:19] <RastaMahata> i hate java, tomcat, jsp, servlets and beans... and the model 2 web applications! :@
[03:19] <kong0> i cant read myself to wisdom
[03:19] <cthulfuego> kong0: You don't install the bin. You convert it using the 'make-jpkg' command.
[03:19] <kong0> ahh man lame
[03:19] <kong0> then what?
[03:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> uggh no faomy sounds :(
[03:19] <cthulfuego> kong0: Then you end up with a .deb file.
[03:20] <cthulfuego> !java
[03:20] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[03:20] <kong0> wich i do what with?
[03:20] <cthulfuego> Read the page.
[03:20] <RastaMahata> i installed it form backports, but I think backports are hated here.. I love them...
[03:20] <lsuactiafner> BROKEN_LADDER : put your caps lock off please
[03:20] <concept10> kong0, some things are practical some things are just quicker, you wont learn linux in a weekend!
[03:20] <cthulfuego> RastaMahata: Backports *can* break upgrades.
[03:20] <RastaMahata> see? :P
[03:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ughhh macromedia sucks
[03:21] <cthulfuego> RastaMahata: Your english sucks.
[03:21] <kong0> I tried reading the install read me for mplayer and that went straight to hell....
[03:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can something else play flash thats not flash player?
[03:21] <cthulfuego> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Quicktime on Mac/Windoze
[03:21] <kong0> why wont u use flashplayer?
[03:21] <RastaMahata> cthulfuego, Thats because I speak spanish, no english.
[03:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cause theres no sound
[03:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> :(
[03:21] <RastaMahata> not*
[03:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so i was thinking there might be an alternative
[03:22] <lsuactiafner> ChurcH_of_FoamY : mplayer has limited support
[03:22] <concept10> kong0, its better to stick with apps in the repos
[03:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmmm how to get
[03:22] <cthulfuego> RastaMahata: One person saying something has the possibility of breaking something else is not the same as an entire channel hating it.
[03:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> apt-get?
[03:22] <kong0> uhhhh english?
[03:22] <kong0> stick with programs in what?
[03:22] <kong0> repos?
[03:23] <waterbeetle> I used backports too.  for j2re 1.5, how can I run a jnlp file?  It should run in firefox, but it wont work
[03:23] <zever> kong0 repos=repositories
[03:23] <kong0> ok i got repos better than the other
[03:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hows the mplayer 686 package run?
[03:23] <zever> kong0 what other
[03:24] <concept10> anyone use streamtuner / streamripper?
[03:24] <kong0> not at all for me...byt hey..im a noob
[03:24] <kong0> haha just a joke no bother
[03:24] <vinux> concept10, I use streamtuner
[03:24] <kong0> zever i still have no clue what repos mean
[03:24] <kong0> :D
[03:24] <concept10> i wonder how to stop streamripper without closing the terminal
[03:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> HI..I'M in linux, and i just had to reboot my computer to stop two processes.
[03:24] <Razor-X> anyone here use eterm?
[03:25] <RastaMahata> cthulfuego, I'm not here to fight... Backports is one of the many solutions an user has to easilly install Java.
[03:25] <cthulfuego> kong0: Have you looked at the wiki pages for java yet?
[03:25] <Razor-X> BROKEN_LADDER: why?
[03:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> repos are a place where all the goodies for ubuntu are stored
[03:25] <kong0> hmm is it a folder?
[03:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no some where on the net
[03:25] <cthulfuego> RastaMahata: Indeed. I just note that when that uses wants to upgrade to a newer ubuntu/distro release the backport _can_ interfere.
[03:25] <waterbeetle> RastaMahata: do you know how to run a jnlp file in firefox?
[03:26] <concept10> kong0, a repo (repository) is a server with all of the pre-compiled .debs
[03:26] <kbrooks> ummm.
[03:26] <damjan> hi all..  I want to install mp3 and divx support in my hoary butI can't find what's the repository that has those
[03:26] <MidnightDevil> cthulfuego i cant pvt u can i ?
[03:26] <MidnightDevil> :/
[03:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> arggh i can't watch foamy >.<
[03:26] <cthulfuego> !restricted
[03:26] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:26] <lsuactiafner> BROKEN_LADDER : 1. you never reboot in linux, 2. kill -9 pid kills shit.
[03:26] <cthulfuego> damjan: See the restricted url.
[03:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm gonna wright a nasty letter to the makers of flash
[03:26] <kbrooks> can i EASILY make a debian package?
[03:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> lsuactiafner no it didn't in my case.
[03:26] <lsuactiafner> BROKEN_LADDER " <concept10> kill 6160 && kill 6176
[03:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> lsuactiafner  it did not work
[03:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> tell them to get off there butts and fix it
[03:27] <RastaMahata> waterbeetle, when firefox asks you "what to do", you select the "open with..." option, then from the list select "another one", then browse to "/usr/bin/javaws"
[03:27] <cthulfuego> MidnightDevil: yes, but it will get ignored.
[03:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> lsuactiafner I did it about 20 times.  i even tried sudo before it.
[03:27] <lsuactiafner> BROKEN_LADDER : linux doesnt continue with pids once you kill -9
[03:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> lsuactiafner i've used linux off and on for a few years and i've never seen this behavior before.
[03:27] <Razor-X> BROKEN_LADDER: what does it say?
[03:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> lsuactiafner they still showed up in ps aux.
[03:27] <lsuactiafner> you didnt use kill -9 now did you:? only kill.
[03:27] <waterbeetle> RastaMahata: where can I get javaws?  I don't have that
[03:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> lsuactiafner i used kill -9.
[03:27] <kbrooks> can i EASILY make a debian package?
[03:28] <MidnightDevil> cthulfuego wonder if u ssh could have a closer idea of what seems to be restricting apache to run and crash the whole machine
[03:28] <RastaMahata> waterbeetle, do you have backports?
[03:28] <waterbeetle> yes
[03:28] <lsuactiafner> BROKEN_LADDER : chances of it happenin is 0.01%
[03:28] <waterbeetle> Rastamahata: I searched for that, yes I do have backports, couldn't find it
[03:28] <lsuactiafner> but i dont care. i'm goint to sleep
[03:28] <lsuactiafner> Sun Jun 19 03:29:07 SAST 2005
[03:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> lsuactiafner perhaps you'd like a paste of my terminal history.
[03:28] <RastaMahata> waterbeetle, sudo apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.5
[03:28] <bl4cktone> anyone know how a n00b would begin installing enlightenment
[03:28] <lsuactiafner> no i dont.
[03:29] <waterbeetle> RastaMahata: thanks!
[03:29] <BROKEN_LADDER>   483  ps aux | grep thoggen
[03:29] <BROKEN_LADDER>   484  kill -9 6160 6176
[03:29] <BROKEN_LADDER>   485  ps aux | grep thoggen
[03:29] <BROKEN_LADDER>   486  kill 6160 && kill 6176
[03:29] <BROKEN_LADDER>   487  ps aux | grep thoggen
[03:29] <BROKEN_LADDER>   488  sudo kill 6160 ; sudo kill 6176
[03:29] <lsuactiafner> goodnight.
[03:29] <BROKEN_LADDER>   489  ps aux | grep thoggen
[03:29] <BROKEN_LADDER>   490  killall -9 thoggen
[03:29] <BROKEN_LADDER>   491  ps aux | grep thoggen
[03:29] <BROKEN_LADDER>   492  sudo killall -9 thoggen
[03:29] <lsuactiafner> i said NOOOOO
[03:29] <BROKEN_LADDER>   493  ps aux | grep thoggen
[03:29] <BROKEN_LADDER>   494  mount
[03:29] <kbrooks> BROKEN_LADDER, NO FLOODING
[03:29] <BROKEN_LADDER>   495  thoggen
[03:29] <lsuactiafner> argh
[03:29] <BROKEN_LADDER>   496  ps aux | grep thoggen
[03:29] <BROKEN_LADDER>   497  sudo killall -9 thoggen
[03:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> lsuactiafner then stfu.
[03:29] <ThE__OnE> pastebin
[03:29] <RastaMahata> waterbeetle, after it's installed, follow the instrctions I told you before to open Java Web Start
[03:29] <lsuactiafner> BROKEN_LADDER : dont paste here
[03:29] <RastaMahata> +files
[03:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> lsuactiafner looks like a used kill -9, eh moron?
[03:29] <kbrooks> BROKEN_LADDER, BE NICE!!!!
[03:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um spam makes the internet sad :(
[03:30] <ThE__OnE> bronson, maybe next time you can try pastebin?
[03:30] <waterbeetle> RastaMahata: cool, gotit
[03:30] <ThE__OnE> broken, maybe next time you can try pastebin?
[03:30] <lsuactiafner> BROKEN_LADDER : behave.
[03:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> lsuactiafner don't be a jerk.
[03:30] <kbrooks> BROKEN_LADDER, you besta listen to lsuactiafner
[03:30] <lsuactiafner> and dont expect me to help you ever again
[03:30] <kbrooks> BROKEN_LADDER, BEHAVE!
[03:30] <Razor-X> BROKEN_LADDER: we're a community channel, we aren't payed to help
[03:30] <^thehatsrule^> BROKEN_LADDER: look at the rules :/
[03:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> you're also not paid to insult my intelligence, or assume i didn't do something the way i was told.
[03:30] <lsuactiafner> its 0330 here and i'm helpin you so dont bash me.
[03:31] <ThE__OnE> yes, please behave, these guys can help, heck they even helped me with some of the common sence Q
[03:31] <kbrooks> BROKEN_LADDER, LEAVE NOW!!!!!
[03:31] <Razor-X> BROKEN_LADDER: there are a lot of things people don't do, I'm pretty sure many people here are more experienced with Linux than you are
[03:31] <lsuactiafner> BROKEN_LADDER : according to my log kill -9 wasnt mentioned but next time i see you needin help i wont give a damn
[03:31] <DanielC> concept10: Do you know which hoary repository has the w32 codecs? Is it restricted? multiverse?
[03:32] <^thehatsrule^> i think its multiverse
[03:32] <kbrooks> BROKEN_LADDER, if u arent gonna leave, you should get a LIFE and STOP ACTING LIKE A JERK.
[03:32] <DanielC> thanks
[03:32] <kbrooks> BROKEN_LADDER, you seem to have a broken backbone. you seem to be tired
[03:32] <RastaMahata> I HATE SERVLETS
[03:33] <damjan> cthulfuego: yes I've read that, and I added that repository to apt-get but it still cant find liblame0
[03:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> i wasn't being a jerk.
[03:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> he was.
[03:33] <kbrooks> BROKEN_LADDER, also, you seem to act like a 2 year old
[03:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> no he did.
[03:33] <kbrooks> BROKEN_LADDER, GET OUT!
[03:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> i was politely asking for help.
[03:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no yu where spamming
[03:33] <bl4cktone> come on guys
[03:33] <ninwa> In Mplayer is there anyway to stretch a video a larger resultion (despite video quality), it seems to want to play it at its native resolution, resizing the window only increases the border size.
[03:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> fine.  maybe with time, you'll calm down and see that i'm right.
[03:34] <kbrooks> BROKEN_LADDER, either i'm serious or i'm not, and i'm SERIOUS this time!
[03:34] <RastaMahata> ninwa, in properties, select a different video filter
[03:34] <kbrooks> grrrr
[03:34] <kbrooks> that asshole
[03:34] <lsuactiafner> ninwa : combination of -zoom -fs -xy 2 or -x 2 effect
[03:35] <iamnow> is there a gnome calendar? whats the best calendar for organizing us deadbeats
[03:35] <lsuactiafner> ninwa : i use -force-avi-aspect when i rip to get a dvd aspect on it
[03:35] <anto9us> iamnow: have you tried evolution?
[03:37] <kbrooks> ok
[03:38] <truz24> Is there a guide on upgrading to a kernel on Kernel.org ?
[03:38] <truz24> in ubuntu ?
[03:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i found out yesterday how easy it is to convert a die-hard windows fan to linux
[03:38] <MidnightDevil> any alternative to apache that supports php ?
[03:38] <MidnightDevil> :/
[03:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> show em a copy of ubuntu ^_^
[03:39] <ninwa> -zoom did the trick, thanks
[03:39] <LinuxJones> truz24, you should stick with the Ubuntu kernel
[03:40] <truz24> LinuxJones, I would for production, but I just wanted to test it out and etc.  But I guess there are ubuntu specific patches needed ?
[03:40] <kbrooks> MidnightDevil, hmmm
[03:40] <lsuactiafner> ChurcH_of_FoamY : make them run IE, thats enough to make me scream and have nightmares
[03:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i hate ie
[03:40] <clockradiokurt> hey
[03:40] <lsuactiafner> yeh cant use it
[03:40] <clockradiokurt> i need some help
[03:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> actually i hate windoes now
[03:40] <clockradiokurt> when i try to install ubuntu
[03:40] <MidnightDevil> kbrooks ?
[03:40] <LinuxJones> truz24, yes exactly :)
[03:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> that it fried my vid card
[03:40] <clockradiokurt> i get an error
[03:40] <kbrooks> ChurcH_of_FoamY, why do u hate wnblows
[03:40] <kbrooks> win*
[03:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it freid my vid card
[03:41] <kbrooks> u sure?
[03:41] <clockradiokurt> can someone help me install warty warthog?
[03:41] <kbrooks> 100% sure?
[03:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh yea chips that are supposed to be black are white and flaky
[03:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> even the gpu
[03:41] <cthulfuego> !kpkg is make-kpkg clean; make-kpkg --revision $(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot clean; make-kpkg --revision $(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image;
[03:41] <ubotu> okay, cthulfuego
[03:41] <clockradiokurt> can someone help me?
[03:41] <LinuxJones> truz24, this is a server you want to run ?
[03:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> whith what?
[03:42] <kbrooks> clockradiokurt, install hoary instead.....but you can upgrade
[03:42] <clockradiokurt> who knows a lot about ubuntu install
[03:42] <clockradiokurt> well
[03:42] <anto9us> MidnightDevil: Zope has a PHP parser
[03:42] <Wimpie> needs some help.  Have installed first ubunt THEN xp.  Need to get XP to dual boot.  How ?
[03:42] <clockradiokurt> i cant get the iso to burn right
[03:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what are you using?
[03:42] <cthulfuego> truz24: Fetch a tarball from kernel.org. Unpack it. Cd to the source dir, run the full command I just added to uboto
[03:42] <clockradiokurt> but i have a warty cd on hand
[03:42] <clockradiokurt> nero
[03:42] <lsuactiafner> windows doesnt allow me to make it run like i want it to run, its unpredictable inconsisntant..
[03:42] <superbot> hello, I am dumb, but feel free to speak to me!
[03:42] <clockradiokurt> okay
[03:42] <superbot> hello, I am dumb, but feel free to speak to me!
[03:42] <kbrooks> Wimpie, uhh....not swure, but you could reinstall grub
[03:42] <superbot> hello, I am dumb, but feel free to speak to me!
[03:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i have had great sucsess with that prog
[03:42] <superbot> hello, I am dumb, but feel free to speak to me!
[03:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what version
[03:42] <superbot> hello, I am dumb, but feel free to speak to me!
[03:42] <kbrooks> superbot, get out
[03:42] <clockradiokurt> let me tell you what my problem is with both warty and hog
[03:42] <waterbeetle> there is a channel for bots
[03:42] <kbrooks> superbot, part
[03:42] <waterbeetle> not here
[03:43] <clockradiokurt> when i install both
[03:43] <kbrooks> lol
[03:43] <clockradiokurt> i get the same error
[03:43] <lsuactiafner> Wimpie : boot from cdrom and someone else how to get your boot record fixed from there
[03:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> try cleaning out your cd rom
[03:43] <clockradiokurt> not enough space on /var/log/syslog
[03:43] <clockradiokurt> or i mean
[03:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> if the lens is dirty you will get errors
[03:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i use a cd lens cleaner after every ten hours of use
[03:43] <clockradiokurt> really
[03:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> before that ubuntu woulden't burn right
[03:44] <clockradiokurt> will that make the difference?
[03:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea
[03:44] <clockradiokurt> well
[03:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it will
[03:44] <clockradiokurt> i have the cds
[03:44] <clockradiokurt> that work
[03:44] <clockradiokurt> but
[03:44] <clockradiokurt> when i install
[03:44] <clockradiokurt> is the problem
[03:44] <lsuactiafner> md5sums rock..
[03:44] <Wimpie> Can I use the standard installation CD ? How do I avoid a reinstall ?
[03:44] <clockradiokurt> like i start installing
[03:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> could be that the lens is dirty
[03:44] <clockradiokurt> and i get the base installation fine
[03:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and it's not receving the lazer right
[03:44] <lsuactiafner> Wimpie : yeh, but ask someone else to guide you, but the method to fix is to just reinstall grub or lilo..
[03:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> becuase of dust particles
[03:45] <clockradiokurt> but the same error on two different cd's?
[03:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's possible i have seen stranger shit with win
[03:45] <clockradiokurt> well
[03:45] <clockradiokurt> let me tell you what happens
[03:45] <clockradiokurt> and then decide
[03:45] <lsuactiafner> i dont know the boot prompts by heart
[03:45] <clockradiokurt> okay
[03:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i almost got rid of the cd rom before i figured out the lens was dirty
[03:45] <clockradiokurt> well i get this error
[03:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's a 250 dollar superdrive
[03:46] <clockradiokurt> "not enough space on /var filesystem.
[03:46] <clockradiokurt> "
[03:46] <clockradiokurt> then
[03:46] <ZoomZoom> hello guys
[03:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> are you trying to burn to dvd?
[03:46] <lsuactiafner> i think he's disk is full...
[03:46] <ZoomZoom> I just installed ubuntu but...
[03:46] <cthulfuego> clockradiokurt: run 'sudo apt-get clean'
[03:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> could be
[03:46] <lsuactiafner> and make him do an md5checksum on the iso
[03:46] <ZoomZoom> I keep getting an video error
[03:46] <litheum> i'm getting tons of errors regarding locales on my new 5.04 install. is this a known problem that there's an easy fix for?
[03:46] <clockradiokurt> then i get "check /car/log/syslog or virtual console 4
[03:46] <clockradiokurt> "
[03:46] <ZoomZoom> I think that ubuntu does not like ati
[03:47] <ZoomZoom> I have a radeon x100 pro
[03:47] <clockradiokurt> got any solutions?
[03:47] <ZoomZoom> scratch that
[03:47] <cthulfuego> ZoomZoom: Nothing likes new ATI cards, except Windows.
[03:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i used an invida with no problem
[03:47] <ZoomZoom> x7xx pro
[03:47] <clockradiokurt> ??
[03:47] <stuNNed> is there way to build a .deb from alsa-driver?
[03:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> untill winsux fried it
[03:47] <cthulfuego> !fglrx
[03:47] <ubotu> cthulfuego: I give up, what is it?
[03:47] <ZoomZoom> x700 pro
[03:47] <ZoomZoom> sorry
[03:47] <kbrooks> whoa
[03:47] <kbrooks> the google cache is useful
[03:47] <clockradiokurt> i cant run "sudo=apt-get clean
[03:47] <ZoomZoom> any suggestions?
[03:47] <novaflare> how did windows fry a vid card?
[03:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea uncle google rocks
[03:48] <clockradiokurt> because i cant get it to install
[03:48] <anto9us> kbrooks: very :)
[03:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's very hardware intensive
[03:48] <kbrooks> http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:ejDBxnYRDXwJ:pragma.kicks-ass.org/ircscripts/rafb.py+rafb.py&hl=en&client=firefox
[03:48] <kbrooks> :)
[03:48] <clockradiokurt> got any more idea's?
[03:48] <cthulfuego> !fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:48] <ubotu> cthulfuego: okay
[03:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> if your hardware has anything wrong with it it will burn out
[03:48] <cthulfuego> ZoomZoom: Go read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thats why i am a linux convert now
[03:48] <clockradiokurt> ?
[03:48] <clockradiokurt> okay
[03:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> linux goes easy on your hard ware
[03:49] <novaflare> not realy sounds like was some isue witht he card to me. Its extreamly hard for software to damage hardware. Course if somethign is keaping hardware maxxed out it could die from over heating
[03:49] <LinuxJones> clockradiokurt, it's >>  sudo apt-get clean
[03:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> maybe but it worked fine with 98 and me
[03:49] <clockradiokurt> im not running ubuntu yet!
[03:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> put it in an xp box and that was it
[03:49] <novaflare> and that could happen with any os linux windows osx etc
[03:49] <clockradiokurt> im still on windows
[03:50] <novaflare> sounds like somethign went wrong with the card to me
[03:50] <clockradiokurt> and trying to install ubuntu on another hdd
[03:50] <cthulfuego> clockradiokurt: You're not getting /var filesystem is full erors on windows.
[03:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea i get that i just think linux is easyer on hardware
[03:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> night all see you tomorrow
[03:50] <novaflare> i run mepis and xp dual boot (waiting for ubuntu breezy to come out)
[03:50] <clockradiokurt> okay
[03:50] <clockradiokurt> let me tell you exactaly whats going o
[03:50] <clockradiokurt> n
[03:50] <stuNNed> how to make a .deb out of a source package?
[03:50] <novaflare> but ive never had trouble with windows and hardware
[03:50] <clockradiokurt> right now im on windows
[03:50] <clockradiokurt> xp
[03:50] <cthulfuego> stuNNed: apt-get -b source <foo>
[03:50] <clockradiokurt> i set another hdd, 6.4 gigs, to slave
[03:51] <clockradiokurt> put my ubuntu warty cd in
[03:51] <cthulfuego> stuNNed: or apt-get source foo, cd foo; dpkg-buildpackage -b
[03:51] <clockradiokurt> go to install
[03:51] <clockradiokurt> go thtough all the stuff
[03:51] <Wimpie> lsuactiafner : ok installation fails after unclean target, then install grub and reboot ... thx
[03:51] <clockradiokurt> get past base install
[03:51] <clockradiokurt> get to "copying files to harddrive"
[03:51] <clockradiokurt> and fails
[03:51] <clockradiokurt> and says
[03:51] <cthulfuego> clockradiokurt: Did you tell it to make a separate /var partition?
[03:51] <clockradiokurt> yaeh
[03:52] <clockradiokurt> i told it to format
[03:52] <stuNNed> cthulfuego: trying to build latest alsa-driver but there is no debian dir within the source ...
[03:52] <clockradiokurt> and then the two partitions
[03:52] <cthulfuego> clockradiokurt: maybe you shouldn't. Reboot, tell it to use the entire disk, one partition.
[03:52] <clockradiokurt> i think it said there wasnt enoguh room on the partition
[03:52] <cthulfuego> stuNNed: alsa comes with the kernel.
[03:52] <jdmcrx> hi im having trouble updating ubuntu..im trying to update and its asking for a password and i put the root password but it says its wrong =/
[03:52] <clockradiokurt> you mean custom partition tables?
[03:53] <clockradiokurt> *use custom partition tables?
[03:53] <stuNNed> cthulfuego: yes but latest stable is 1.0.9b and not in ubuntu...is there still a way to build from source?
[03:53] <cthulfuego> clockradiokurt: You should end up with about 6Gb of / and 512 or so Mb of swap.
[03:53] <cthulfuego> stuNNed: Any reason you need 1.0.9a?
[03:53] <cthulfuego> (or b?)
[03:53] <clockradiokurt> so i need a bigger than 6.4 gb slave drive to install it on?
[03:54] <jdmcrx> anyone?
[03:54] <cthulfuego> clockradiokurt: No, 6.4Gb i fine. Just don't have it make seperate partitions for /var, /usr, /home etc
[03:54] <clockradiokurt> okay
[03:54] <clockradiokurt> let me try it
[03:54] <clockradiokurt> ill be back
[03:54] <clockradiokurt> thanks for the help
[03:54] <anto9us> jdmcrx: use your own password
[03:54] <jdmcrx> i did use my own password it keeps on saying its wrong :(
[03:55] <kbrooks> jdmcrx, caps lock?
[03:56] <jdmcrx> nope its off
[03:56] <cthulfuego> jdmcrx: does 'sudo ls' work in a terminal?
[03:56] <anto9us> jdmcrx: does your password contain numbers?
[03:56] <jdmcrx> yes it contains numbers
[03:56] <cthulfuego> jdmcrx: is num-lock on?
[03:56] <anto9us> jdmcrx: did you use the numpad?
[03:56] <jdmcrx> i don't have a numpad cause its on my laptop
[03:57] <kbrooks> jdmcrx, which one"?
[03:57] <kbrooks> you don't have a numpad
[03:57] <kbrooks> or
[03:57] <MidnightDevil> what alternatives i have to apache that supports php?
[03:57] <kbrooks> you have a numpad
[03:57] <kbrooks> ?
[03:57] <jdmcrx> i just used the normal numbers on the top of the keyboard
[03:57] <drummer87> can someone help me with smeg? it adds and removes menu items but it doesn't update the order i set the items to
[03:58] <drummer87> won't add separators either
[03:58] <drummer87> they show in smeg but not in the actual menu
[03:58] <jdmcrx> when i did sudo ls it said: jdmcrx is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
[03:58] <cthulfuego> jdmcrx: have you done a recent update?
[03:59] <jdmcrx> nope i just installed it just now
[03:59] <kbrooks> jdmcrx, well, you're effectively locked out
[03:59] <kbrooks> installed what?
[03:59] <jdmcrx> ubuntu
[03:59] <cthulfuego> jdmcrx: Ok, this is fairly easy to fix. You need to boot the system in recovery mode (choose that in the GRUB menu).
[03:59] <kbrooks> 5.04 or 4.10?
[03:59] <simondood> hey all
[04:00] <cthulfuego> jdmcrx: When you get to a command prompt, add your user account to the 'admin' group via 'adduser <user> admin'
[04:00] <cthulfuego> jdmcrx: Then type 'exit' to continue booting.
[04:00] <kbrooks> cthulfuego, whoa. that easy?
[04:00] <jdmcrx> ok hopefully it works xD
[04:00] <cthulfuego> jdmcrx: Alternatively, did you create a second user when instaloing ubuntu?
[04:01] <cthulfuego> kbrooks: I've heard reports of people not being in the admin group and sudo having an admin group byd efault, yeah.
[04:01] <simondood> im haveing proplems with my network card after i took it out of my laptop then ran it then later put it back in and ran it
[04:01] <simondood> it works
[04:01] <simondood> but
[04:01] <cthulfuego> kbrooks: I haven't encountererd the problem myself, even though i keep hoary up to date.
[04:01] <superbot> if you like astronomy and/or astronomy go to #botweather!
[04:01] <jdmcrx> no i don't think i made a second user
[04:01] <jdmcrx> just this one and the admin
[04:01] <simondood> the little syball in the top right of gnome now shows the status of lo no eth0
[04:01] <simondood> :(
[04:01] <kbrooks> thats a silly ad, superbot
[04:01] <cthulfuego> jdmcrx: Can you check if there' a group called 'admin' in /etc/groups?
[04:01] <superbot> what!?
[04:02] <valzaq> hello every one
[04:02] <superbot> rofl
[04:02] <simondood> and if it go /etc/..../networking restart it don't work
[04:02] <kbrooks> superbot, are you a bot?
[04:02] <simondood> just kill the network
[04:02] <cthulfuego> jdmcrx: The admin? How do you mean?
[04:02] <superbot> no
[04:02] <simondood> just kills the netowrk
[04:02] <kbrooks> superbot, why the ads?
[04:02] <valzaq> try ifdown -a then ifup -a
[04:02] <Razor-X> anyone here use eterm?
[04:02] <kbrooks> superbot, you know  you arent aloud to advertise
[04:02] <valzaq> anyways
[04:03] <superbot> oh
[04:03] <jdmcrx> just to get in as root. this is my first time using ubuntu. I used to use fedora core 3
[04:03] <simondood> valzaq: yeah i tryed that
[04:03] <superbot> dArN!
[04:03] <simondood> and i don't think its on the list for -a
[04:03] <drummer87> anyone here using smeg that can help me??
[04:03] <cthulfuego> jdmcrx: The installer would have prompted you to create a user. The user you ceated when it did that _should_ be in the sudoers file.
[04:04] <cthulfuego> jdmcrx: if that was the admin user, then indeed YOU wouldn't be in the sudoers file.
[04:04] <valzaq> does anyone know how to acces webmin in ubuntu
[04:04] <simondood> valzaq: allso ifdown eth0 returns somtheing about eth0 not having acess to
[04:04] <cthulfuego> jdmcrx: if so, you should login as the admin your and add your account to sudoers
[04:04] <FLeiXiuS> valzaq, http://127.0.0.1:10000
[04:04] <valzaq> try sudo blahbla/ifdown -a
[04:04] <jdmcrx> how do i log in my admin?
[04:05] <valzaq> no i mean the default user for webmin
[04:05] <simondood> valzaq: blabla?
[04:05] <cthulfuego> jdmcrx: ctrl-alt-f1, login, sudo 'visudo' and edit the sudoers file, then logout. ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to X.
[04:05] <ThE__OnE> how do i use my time for XChat instead of the internation time
[04:05] <valzaq> simondood i thinl it was something like sudo /etc/network ifdown -a
[04:06] <simondood> oh
[04:06] <simondood> see
[04:06] <TokenBad> how hard is it to update the kernal in ubuntu?
[04:06] <simondood> valzaq: but it can just type sudo ifdown -a
[04:06] <simondood> with out the path
[04:06] <valzaq> nop u cant
[04:07] <Nard> So anything that i play in mplayer is way slow and choppy and the picture just likes to stay in one place
[04:07] <valzaq> or try whereis ifdown
[04:07] <simondood> well it got ifdown to work that way
[04:07] <simondood> just not on eth0
[04:08] <valzaq> so whats the default user for webmin in ubuntu ??? anyone .....
[04:08] <simondood> my network card
[04:08] <son> #botweather ROCKS
[04:08] <ThE__OnE> anyone?
[04:08] <LinuxJones> TokenBad, if you want to wait for a security updated version it's easy
[04:08] <anto9us> valzaq: I think it sets up root as the webmin user so you need to set a password for root with 'sudo passwd' enter your own then the required root password with confirmation
[04:09] <simondood> valzaq: or are u saying typing the full path will make it work better ?
[04:09] <TokenBad> well was just wondering cause one on here is 2.6.10-5
[04:09] <TokenBad> and heard about 2.8 something was out
[04:09] <valzaq> anto9us u mean like activate the root account??
[04:09] <jdmcrx> how do i edit the sudoer file?
[04:09] <valzaq> simondood i think so
[04:09] <anto9us> valzaq: If I recall correctly, yes
[04:09] <valzaq> ok thanks
[04:10] <simondood> valzaq: hey just out of interest what u doing with webmin?
[04:10] <valzaq> reconfiguring every running server
[04:10] <lymz> comparing fedora core; how easy is it to setup and maintain a file/web server?
[04:10] <jugarnatha> ik heb een probleem met codecs. I have a problem with codeces, I think. I can't get totem to play, though I believe that I've properly loaded all the appropriate codecs and they should be in the right place.
[04:10] <LinuxJones> TokenBad, latest kernels usually mean very little to the average user. Unless there is a feature that you need in it the kernel your using is probably ok.
[04:10] <Nard> can i make it so you have to type the root password to veiw different files
[04:11] <kbrooks> Nard, uh, not really
[04:11] <LinuxJones> TokenBad, if there is a security fix it will be updated when your system gets an update
[04:11] <kbrooks> Nard, google?
[04:11] <Nard> i tryed
[04:11] <Nard> couldn't find anything
[04:11] <waterbeetle> Nard: you can change the properties of the file
[04:12] <Nard> yeah
[04:12] <TokenBad> no updates avail for here
[04:12] <anto9us> Nard: change the owner of those files to root and set read permissions to user only
[04:12] <LinuxJones> TokenBad, then your all set :)
[04:12] <ubotu> ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT has landed!
[04:12] <Nard> ok
[04:12] <TokenBad> cool
[04:12] <jugarnatha> I have a problem with codeces, I think. I can't get totem to play, though I believe that I've properly loaded all the appropriate codecs and they should be in the right place.
[04:12] <LinuxJones> deshantm, log out and login as a regular user dude
[04:12] <jugarnatha> Can anyone help?
[04:13] <TokenBad> what type file jugarnatha?
[04:13] <TokenBad> wmv?
[04:13] <Nard> ok that works
[04:13] <TokenBad> mpeg?
[04:13] <deshantm> LinuxJones, i am on windows doesn't really matter :)
[04:13] <jugarnatha> neither seem to work.
[04:13] <TokenBad> you install the w32codecs?
[04:13] <LinuxJones> deshantm, well actually that's worse :)
[04:13] <jugarnatha> I have them saved, but I'm not sure if they're "installed"
[04:13] <Nard> i have the same problem as jugarnatha but mine play they just suck
[04:14] <jugarnatha> or even unpacked.
[04:14] <jugarnatha> hmmm
[04:14] <simondood> jugarnatha: go to ubuntuguide.org and find how to install mplayer
[04:14] <simondood> way better
[04:14] <TokenBad> did you do the apt-get install w32codec
[04:14] <cthulfuego> wmv *does* suck, you're right
[04:14] <deshantm> LinuxJones, what's the big deal.. in a windows lab...all my computers run linux
[04:14] <jugarnatha> Do regular Debian distros have this problem . . . ? I'll try mplayer, thanks. . .
[04:14] <TokenBad> or whatever its done
[04:14] <scott_> Can someone give me a help. I can't get my dual/tri monitors to work with Ubuntu
[04:14] <TokenBad> you should use apt-get to install the codecs
[04:14] <jugarnatha> no I didn't do an apt-get . . . tokenbad
[04:14] <kbrooks> deshantm, so u are masquerading?
[04:14] <LinuxJones> deshantm, I was joking :D
[04:14] <TokenBad> you should
[04:15] <TokenBad> it installs to where it needs to be that way
[04:15] <jugarnatha> I'll try that as well.
[04:15] <Nard> yeah
[04:15] <deshantm> kbrooks, masquerading?
[04:15] <jugarnatha> three minutes afwindow
[04:15] <dave> I have a laptop that moves between wireless networks and I'm looking for an easy way to reconfigure at each location. Any ideas??
[04:15] <kbrooks> deshantm, as in creating a user named root
[04:15] <deshantm> LinuxJones, yeah no biggie.. what i am really testing is open source software in windows
[04:16] <simondood> valzaq: I was more wondering what u use webmin for on the hole
[04:16] <LinuxJones> deshantm, there is alot of great stuff !!
[04:16] <deshantm> kbrooks, yeah we just rename the Administrator account
[04:16] <kbrooks> deshantm, why?
[04:16] <deshantm> kbrooks, easier too type :)
[04:16] <TokenBad> jugarnatha, as long as you know the package names
[04:16] <TokenBad> thats the best way to go
[04:17] <valzaq> simondood i really dont know first time on webmin but it sounds useful
[04:17] <scott_> Can someone help me get my dual monitors working please
[04:17] <TokenBad> or use synaptic
[04:17] <jugarnatha> tokenbad hmmm. apt-get doesn't seem to work for w32codec or w32codecs
[04:17] <clockradiokurt> okay
[04:17] <clockradiokurt> im back
[04:17] <clockradiokurt> it didnt work
[04:17] <clockradiokurt> there were two partitions
[04:17] <TokenBad> have to know the package names
[04:18] <TokenBad> ask in here about what the w32codecs package name is
[04:18] <TokenBad> I forget what it is
[04:18] <clockradiokurt> one was 6.1 gigs, the swap was 300 megs
[04:18] <clockradiokurt> and it messed up again
[04:18] <clockradiokurt> with the same error
[04:18] <litheum> i'm getting tons of errors regarding locales on my new 5.04 install. is this a known problem that there's an easy fix for? "perl: warning: Setting locale failed." among others..
[04:18] <Davey> is there a tool to convert newlines?
[04:18] <waterbeetle> clockradiokurt: you are trying to install onto a slave?
[04:18] <clockradiokurt> yeah
[04:18] <clockradiokurt> does it have to be master?
[04:19] <waterbeetle> clockradiokurt: that may be the problem
[04:19] <valzaq> root account enabling didnt work to acces the webmin
[04:19] <ThE__OnE> is there like netstat for ubuntu?
[04:19] <clockradiokurt> is the partition right?
[04:19] <LinuxJones> deshantm, you running openoffice in your location ?
[04:19] <waterbeetle> clockradiokurt: I have heard of a similar situation with a usb drive.  doesn't work
[04:19] <clockradiokurt> 6.1 gigs, and 3oo megs for swap?
[04:20] <ThE__OnE> is there something for windows which does what netstat does for windows?
[04:20] <clockradiokurt> so try to switch it to masteR?
[04:20] <TokenBad> apt-get install w32codecs
[04:20] <waterbeetle> yup
[04:20] <clockradiokurt> and windows to slave?
[04:20] <TokenBad> thats the ay it should read
[04:20] <scott_> Can someone help me get my dual monitors working please
[04:20] <waterbeetle> that should work
[04:20] <clockradiokurt> okay ill be back
[04:20] <TokenBad> did you edit your apt-get file
[04:20] <clockradiokurt> thanks gain
[04:20] <clockradiokurt> *again
[04:20] <waterbeetle> I did windows before with it
[04:20] <TokenBad> and uncomment the sites?
[04:20] <clockradiokurt> brb in a few minutes
[04:20] <racket2424> hey, can anyone help me with installing captive?
[04:21] <valzaq> any other getaround for webmin???
[04:21] <ThE__OnE> someone please
[04:22] <Davey> valzaq: webmin.com - read the FAQ
[04:22] <valzaq> been there
[04:22] <LinuxJones> ThE__OnE, yeah there is netstat
[04:22] <valzaq> didnt solve
[04:22] <Davey> valzaq: theres a way to reset your password, use that method to set one ;)
[04:22] <valzaq> it returns an error
[04:23] <anto9us> valzaq: you're logging in to https://localhost:10000 ?
[04:23] <scott_> Can someone help me get my dual monitors working please. I have a Geforce FX5200. The drivers are installed, but I don't know how to get the 2nd monitor on.
[04:23] <valzaq> yeap
[04:23] <valzaq> it just wont recognize any user
[04:24] <shad0w1e> question: is there any way to mount one directory into another such that the new mount contains both the contents of the new directory, as WELL as the contents of the old one????
[04:24] <anto9us> valzaq: now root has a password try complete removal and reinstall of webmin
[04:25] <LinuxJones> ThE__OnE, you will have to ask that on a windows irc channel :)
[04:26] <ThE__OnE> k srry
[04:26] <ThE__OnE> Active UNIX domain sockets (w/o servers) is ok to be displayed in netstat right?
[04:27] <scott_> Can someone help me get my dual monitors working please. I have a Geforce FX5200. The drivers are installed, but I don't know how to get the 2nd monitor on.
[04:27] <anto9us> ThE__OnE: see http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml
[04:28] <kangpeh> ey
[04:28] <kangpeh> :)
[04:28] <kangpeh> I was wondering what the easiest/best way would be to migrate to a reiser filesystem when currently using ext3?
[04:28] <Mez> have you tried gparted ?
[04:28] <tchmnky> Any VLC/Mplayer heads around? How would I go about viewing a WMV video in either of these apps? I have the essential codecs pkg extracted to /usr/lib/codecs but no go, even after restarting these apps.
[04:29] <kangpeh> gparted?
[04:29] <Mez> tchmnky, sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[04:29] <kangpeh> Mez:  Would I lose data when using gparted?
[04:29] <tchmnky> Mez, Uh... "w32codecs is already the newest version." Oh dear.
[04:30] <Mez> kangpeh, I'm not too sure - I've not t4ried it myself, but apparentyly it's simolar tpo partition magic
[04:30] <ThE__OnE> anto9us, how does that help me?
[04:30] <kangpeh> Mez:  Ah, I see - thanks ;)
[04:30] <Mez> and tchmnky - ah well.... Im stumped on that one then... mine works properl
[04:30] <ThE__OnE> did you read my question?
[04:30] <kangpeh> I'll see how it works, Mez - and let you know ;)
[04:30] <kangpeh> ah it only supports reiser3
[04:31] <anto9us> ThE__OnE: it lists alternatives to netstat
[04:31] <tchmnky> Mez, if the codec isn't there, would mplayer/VLC not even try to load the file? Or would it load and bomb out, as it is doing in this case?
[04:31] <ThE__OnE> Active UNIX domain sockets (w/o servers) is ok to be displayed in terminal by netstat command right?
[04:31] <ThE__OnE> yes i know
[04:31] <ThE__OnE> but did you read my question?
[04:31] <Mez> most likely load and bomb out
[04:32] <scott_> Can someone help me get my 2nd monitor up and running please?
[04:32] <anto9us> ThE__OnE: It was an answer to the previous question
[04:32] <tchmnky> Hm. And just apt-getting the codecs should make VLC/mplayer see these new codecs? No recompiling of apps, etc?
[04:32] <simondood> can someone tell me something i can run to configer / dectect network cards form a terminal
[04:32] <vinux> hey guys I was just in a #linuxhelp chat room and one guy says the thinks ubuntu users are lame and ubuntu community will die out soon when they relize ubuntu is debian. Hmmm what would you say to this guy?
[04:32] <ThE__OnE> ahh, ok srry, i misunderstood, someone already told me to try netstat in terminal
[04:33] <tchmnky> Um. Ubuntu is based on Debian. This I think we know. Ubuntu rules because Debian rules. Ubuntu just makes it easier. :)
[04:33] <simondood> i tryed dpkg reconfig xserver-xorg
[04:33] <Xenguy> vinux: very lame indeed
[04:33] <simondood> but nothing there
[04:33] <simondood> i think i typed that wrong but u knwo
[04:34] <scott_> Can someone help me get my 2nd monitor up and running please?
[04:34] <tchmnky> simondood, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg just reconfigures your graphical X server. :-/ I don't know how you'd detect new net devices from a terminal (it's probably very trivial but I don't know how) but that's not how you'd do it, certainly.
[04:35] <kangpeh> Mez
[04:35] <kangpeh> i guess the only way
[04:35] <kangpeh> is to start over
[04:35] <kangpeh> from scratch huh?
[04:35] <Mez> have a look at
[04:35] <scott_> So, no one in here knows anything about dual monitors?
[04:35] <Xenguy> cowsay?
[04:35] <Xenguy> ww
[04:35] <Mez> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:36] <simondood> tchmnky: how about form gnome?
[04:36] <kangpeh> Mez?
[04:36] <daffodil> i need some help configuring my sound, i'm relatively new to linux, but very much enjoying ubuntu so far (easiest version of linux i've used), i can't change my volume anywhere and anytime i try to record sound or anything like that i get /dev/dsp not found
[04:36] <kangpeh> Mez:  gparted didn't seem to have the ability to modify my filesystems.
[04:36] <tchmnky> simondood, I think System -> Administration -> Networking is your Path to Enlightenment here. :)
[04:37] <Mez> ah - lol - fair enough - it doesnt mine either... I dunno whether it needs some sort of extra lib or somehting
[04:37] <kangpeh> Mez:  I guess the only way I can do so is to start over T_T
[04:37] <kangpeh> arrgh
[04:37] <kangpeh> how much faster is reiser than ext3?
[04:37] <kangpeh> and reiser than ext2?
[04:37] <Mez> never used reiser :D
[04:38] <Mez> I always use ext3 :D
[04:38] <vinux> I hope the ubuntu community stays around forever! It's the best i've seen
[04:38] <cthulfuego> kangpeh: Reiser can hose your data within hours. ext2 takes *years*
[04:38] <kangpeh> hose your data?
[04:38] <kangpeh> What do you mean by that?
[04:38] <cthulfuego> kangpeh: Destroy it.
[04:38] <Mez> hehe :D glad to know viunux, and i agree, it is a great community, which is why I'm putting back into it
[04:39] <daffodil> can anyone help me with my sound problem?
[04:39] <ThE__OnE> so anyone actually help me?
[04:39] <Mez> depends on what it is daffodil  :D
[04:39] <daffodil> let me repeat it
[04:39] <daffodil> i need some help configuring my sound, i'm relatively new to linux, but very much enjoying ubuntu so far (easiest version of linux i've used), i can't change my volume anywhere and anytime i try to record sound or anything like that i get /dev/dsp not found
[04:39] <Mez> ThE__OnE, maybe if you asked?
[04:39] <tchmnky> modprobe snd-pcm-oss :)
[04:40] <ThE__OnE> Active UNIX domain sockets (w/o servers) is ok to be displayed in terminal by netstat command right?
[04:40] <Xenguy> ThE__OnE: yes, I'm going to /ignore you so you'll go and *read something* :P
[04:40] <ThE__OnE> read?
[04:40] <daffodil> tchmnky: let me try that quickly
[04:40] <ThE__OnE> how cna i erad abut that?
[04:40] <ThE__OnE> read
[04:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> how long is reasonable to expect to encode an anamorphic widescreen dvd movie?
[04:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> say compressing to the size of a cd...
[04:41] <tchmnky> daffodil, what it does is make all sound looking for /dev/dsp go through to alsa, which is used by default in Ubuntu Hoary (5.04, the latest release). alsa mixes your sounds together so you can hear multiple sounds at once.... Which is nice. :)
[04:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> cause thoggen is telling me it's going to take like a day to encode the matrix on my 3ghz p4, 1gb RAM , 800mhz fsb computer.
[04:41] <tchmnky> But you'll want to stick a sudo in front of it, you have to be root do run modprobe commands, you see.
[04:41] <ThE__OnE> are the people that still help online by any chance?
[04:41] <daffodil> it didn't return anything
[04:42] <daffodil> i did run it as root :)
[04:42] <tchmnky> daffodil, it's not supposed to. It runs silently and then exits cleanly. :) Try running sound apps now, and it should work. :)
[04:42] <daffodil> i do have 5.04
[04:42] <ThE__OnE> instead of teling to go read the maual, which if i cna state ubuntu has none, officially
[04:42] <daffodil> tchmnky: let me try, and thanks for explaining things in rather clean english, i ordered a linux newbies book but it hasn't arrived yet :)
[04:42] <cthulfuego> 'man 8 netstat' works fine
[04:43] <deshantm> LinuxJones, yeah i have been using openoffice 2.0 beta on windows for awhile
[04:43] <daffodil> tchmnky: when i try to run volume control, i get no volume control and/or devices found
[04:43] <deshantm> LinuxJones, it's getting there...
[04:43] <ThE__OnE> cthulfuego, was that for me?
[04:44] <kdedev> Has anybody tried getting hplip to work?
[04:44] <cthulfuego> ThE__OnE: indeed
[04:44] <tchmnky> daffodil, Oh. :( What type of soundcard do you have? Do you know?
[04:44] <ThE__OnE> it says No manual entry for linux in section 8
[04:44] <we2by> is there a dictionary tool with pronuncatiation ?
[04:44] <tchmnky> ThE__OnE, you did man 8 linux?
[04:44] <ThE__OnE> yes
[04:44] <tchmnky> :-/
[04:44] <daffodil> i can go look it up quickly
[04:44] <tchmnky> Try man 8 netstat :)
[04:44] <daffodil> i don't remember off the top of my head
[04:44] <cthulfuego> ThE__OnE: I thought uou wanted help on netstat, not on 'linux' (which isn't an application)
[04:44] <ThE__OnE> it says No manual entry for linux in section 8
[04:45] <cthulfuego> ThE__OnE: Type "man 8 netstat"
[04:45] <DanielC> Guys, I can't find "w32codecs". I have main, universe, restricted, and multiverse. But when I search for 'w32' all I find is 'mingw32'. Does anyone have a suggestion?
[04:45] <ThE__OnE> mojojojo@BaD:~$ man 8 linux
[04:45] <ThE__OnE> No manual entry for linux in section 8
[04:45] <cthulfuego> ThE__OnE: That will display /usr/share/man/man8/netstat.8.gz  and not a made-up page
[04:45] <cthulfuego> ThE__OnE: Can you please be not obtuse?
[04:45] <jeramy> DanielC: do you have the Marillat repository?
[04:45] <ThE__OnE> srry
[04:45] <cthulfuego> ThE__OnE: man 8 netstat'
[04:46] <bwlang> DanielC: that is usually in the marillat repos...
[04:46] <DanielC> jeramy: I don't know what Marillat is :(
[04:46] <simondood> tchmnky: hey can your tell me in ubuntu will ifdown eth0 do a release
[04:46] <cthulfuego> ThE__OnE: NETSTAT, not LINUX. Do you see the different in letters?
[04:46] <simondood> like on my dhcp give ip
[04:46] <DanielC> bwlang: What is marillat? where do I get it?
[04:46] <kangpeh> So, are there any benefits to using Reiser FS over Ext3, and Ext3 over Ext2?
[04:46] <ThE__OnE> ues, someone told me to man 8 linux be4
[04:46] <ThE__OnE> srry abut that
[04:46] <jeramy> DanielC: in your /etc/apt/sources.list, check and see if there's a "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net  ..."
[04:47] <bwlang> DanielC: google is your friend... why are you looking for w32codecs?
[04:47] <simondood> anyone?
[04:47] <cthulfuego> !w32codecs
[04:47] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats or http://ubuntuguide.org
[04:47] <bwlang> simondood: just try it... i think yes
[04:47] <daffodil> tchmnky: it's a rockwell riptide
[04:47] <jeramy> DanielC: Better yet, check ubuntuguide.org
[04:47] <DanielC> bwlang: So I can play .avi movies. It's not a big deal, just "nice to have".
[04:47] <jeramy> Yeah, what ubotu said.  :)
[04:47] <tchmnky> simondood, I'm not sure. I'm not a networking head, but when I boot up Ubuntu, I generally get a new IP. 8) Sory I can't be more helpful. :(
[04:48] <jeramy> Has anybody used hplip?
[04:48] <ThE__OnE> cthulfuego, how do i clear that>?
[04:48] <bwlang> DanielC: i mean what's referring to that package.. what made you think of looking for it?
[04:48] <ThE__OnE> the manual
[04:48] <cthulfuego> ThE__OnE: clear what?
[04:48] <simondood> bwlang: i was told debian didn't have that feature in ifdown uposed to other disros
[04:48] <ThE__OnE> the manual
[04:48] <ThE__OnE> for netstat
[04:48] <cthulfuego> ThE__OnE: clear the manual?
[04:48] <simondood> tchmnky: oh well thanks anyway
[04:48] <cthulfuego> ThE__OnE: hit 'q'
[04:48] <ThE__OnE> yes, so i can type something on the terminal
[04:48] <DanielC> bwlang: someone here (I forget the nick) said I'd need it.
[04:48] <bwlang> simondood: this is not debian... but debain has that feature if you put it in ... just use a down script....
[04:49] <ThE__OnE> ahh ok
[04:49] <ThE__OnE> where can i learn things like that?
[04:49] <drufus> kangpeh:  reiser is great for millions of little files. It and ext3 are better than ext2.
[04:49] <bwlang> DanielC: don't worry about it... until you actually run across a movie that needs it.
[04:49] <DanielC> bwlang: Ok. So some/most movies don't need it?
[04:49] <tchmnky> daffodil, Hm. according to a LinuxQuestions post, your soundcard, riptide is provided by Conexant, and this would be the driver you need: http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hcf/full/archive/cnxtinstall.run
[04:50] <cthulfuego> kangpeh: No. The general rule is that if you need to ask, you should just use ext3.
[04:50] <tchmnky> If you wget that, chmod +x it, and then run it, it should solve your problems, I hope. :)
[04:50] <bwlang> DanielC: dvds don't  - just depends on what kinds of movies you watch.
[04:50] <rajiv> hey
[04:50] <rajiv> is water beetle here?
[04:50] <kakalto> norm_, but I sell smelly fishies on the side of the virtual street
[04:50] <DanielC> bwlang: Ok. I'll wait until I find a .avi I want to watch. I don't watch movies often anyways. Thanks.
[04:50] <kakalto> err
[04:50] <rajiv> if you are
[04:50] <rajiv> thanks
[04:50] <rajiv> i got it to work
[04:50] <kakalto> *no
[04:50] <rajiv> :)
[04:52] <XandriX> is there  away to install lilo instead of grub ??
[04:52] <daffodil> tchmnky: thank you much :)  i'll try that in just a bit, my boyfriend's on the phone so when he hangs up i'll give it a shot and be back :)
[04:52] <tchmnky> I hope it works for you. :)
[04:52] <XandriX> is there ?
[04:53] <cthulfuego> ThE__OnE: For basics like man pages, see if you can pick up a copy of Linux (or Debian) basics from o'Reilly books.
[04:53] <amonkey> how can i find large directories?
[04:54] <ThE__OnE> ahh ok
[04:54] <ThE__OnE> thanks
[04:54] <XandriX> ok so is there a way ot install lilo instead of grub in gentoo ?
[04:54] <cthulfuego> ThE__OnE: http://www.aboutdebian.com/books.htm
[04:54] <cthulfuego> ThE__OnE: I also assume there will probably be an Ubuntu book out over the next few months.
[04:55] <ThE__OnE> great
[04:55] <cthulfuego> ThE__OnE: Just don't get ANY books for debian 2.2 or 3.0
[04:55] <jeramy> Anybody have an HP PSC 2175?
[04:55] <ThE__OnE> hey also, i saw a 5.10 version of ubuntu
[04:55] <ThE__OnE> when is that gonna be official
[04:55] <cthulfuego> ThE__OnE: Yes, it will break your system. Don't use it.
[04:56] <cthulfuego> !breezy
[04:56] <ubotu> Breezy is due for release in October 2005  If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it.
[04:56] <ThE__OnE> hehe
[04:56] <tchmnky> It won't break your system in October though, when it will RULE. :D
[04:56] <cthulfuego> ThE__OnE: Perhaps.
[04:56] <Xenguy> amonkey: I use this to find large files -> ls -lR | sort +4nr |less  <- maybe it can be adapted to show directories only?
[04:56] <ThE__OnE> hehe
[04:56] <FLeiXiuS> Psh, it won't break your system now.
[04:57] <cthulfuego> tchmnky: Perhaps. it *could* contain  amassive bug (like reiserfs) and wipe all your data ;-)
[04:57] <tchmnky> Well, no. But it's not stable enough to be released...
[04:57] <ThE__OnE> .4 version can be upgraded right?
[04:57] <anto9us> amonkey: try  du -kSx /home | sort -n
[04:57] <cthulfuego> ThE__OnE: Yes, 5.04 is tha current stable version.
[04:57] <cthulfuego> the eve
[04:57] <tchmnky> ThE__OnE, when Breezy is released, you can upgrade by using just one simple command and an internet connection. :)
[04:57] <ThE__OnE> i mean when .10 comes out, i can upgrade it from here right, keeping all the settings
[04:57] <ThE__OnE> oh ok
[04:57] <ThE__OnE> kool
[04:57] <cthulfuego> ThE__OnE: yes
[04:58] <ThE__OnE> thx
[04:58] <jeramy> tchmnky: two commands.  ;)
[04:58] <cthulfuego> 3 actually
[04:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know how to use the bittorrent client in gnome?  when i start it up it asks for a directory to use, but when i choose the directory it doesn't do anything.
[04:58] <cthulfuego> edit sources.list, update, dist-upgrade
[04:59] <amonkey> Xenguy, thanks for the suggestion.
[04:59] <tchmnky> jeramy, apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get update, apt-get install *? ;)
[04:59] <amonkey> anto9us, thanks, that worked
[04:59] <XandriX> ok si ther or is there not a way to install lilo instead of grub
[04:59] <ThE__OnE> how come there is no icon for my gFTP in the internet tap? its like a while icon
[04:59] <anto9us> amonkey: I googled it :)
[04:59] <tchmnky> XandriX, I assume you can run sudo apt-get install lilo -- but why use lilo when Grub works (sometimes better, some may say)?
[05:00] <XandriX> tchmnky, i prefer lilo
[05:00] <kbrooks> ubotu, breezy is <reply>Breezy is due for release in October 2005  If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it (X is broken, and other important packages could be too in Breezy).
[05:00] <ubotu> ...but breezy is already something else...
[05:00] <kbrooks> erm
[05:00] <^thehatsrule^> lilo works for more computers?
[05:00] <amonkey> anto9us, i guess i just didn't have a good enough search term, i didn't see anything relavant. <3 google
[05:00] <kbrooks> ubotu, forget breezy
[05:00] <ubotu> i forgot breezy, kbrooks
[05:00] <kbrooks> ubotu, breezy is <reply>Breezy is due for release in October 2005  If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it (X is broken, and other important packages could be too in Breezy).
[05:00] <cthulfuego> kbrooks: Don't delete, just add.
[05:00] <kbrooks> ok, readded
[05:00] <cthulfuego> kbrooks: See:
[05:00] <cthulfuego> !breezy is also soemtimes broken
[05:00] <ubotu> okay, cthulfuego
[05:00] <anto9us> amonkey: try "find large directories" with the quotes
[05:01] <ThE__OnE> how come there is no icon for my gFTP in the internet tap? its like a while icon
[05:01] <kbrooks> cthulfuego, ok
[05:01] <ThE__OnE> ?
[05:01] <kbrooks> !breezy
[05:01] <ubotu> rumour has it, breezy is soemtimes broken
[05:01] <cthulfuego> !breezy =~ s/, soemtimes broken//
[05:01] <ubotu> cthulfuego: that doesn't contain ', soemtimes broken'
[05:01] <simondood> bwlang: interface eth0 not configuerd
[05:01] <cthulfuego> grr
[05:01] <cthulfuego> ubotu is also sometimes broken
[05:01] <ubotu> No idea, cthulfuego
[05:01] <bwlang> simondood: uh... so?
[05:01] <simondood> bwlang: where is a config file where i cant put sum config info in
[05:01] <bwlang> simondood: /etc/network/interfaces
[05:02] <simondood> thats what ifdown says when i try
[05:02] <cthulfuego> !no, breezy is <reply> Breezy is due for release in October 2005  If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it (X is broken, and other important packages could be too)
[05:02] <anto9us> amonkey: sorry, do a linux special search with it
[05:02] <simondood> is there a gui for that?\
[05:02] <simondood> or
[05:02] <bwlang> simondood: that means that the interface is already down... and you're trying to down it again
[05:02] <cthulfuego> stupid bot :-P
[05:02] <ThE__OnE> anyone?
[05:02] <litheum> i'm getting tons of errors regarding locales on my new 5.04 install. is this a known problem that there's an easy fix for? "perl: warning: Setting locale failed." among others..
[05:02] <anto9us> artficial stupidity
[05:03] <simondood> bwlang: but its not correct
[05:03] <bwlang> simondood: i think you can config network through system menu
[05:03] <simondood> cause the interface is up and says up
[05:03] <simondood> its just like ifup cant see it
[05:03] <cthulfuego> kbrooks: Well, maybe you _can't_ use the 'also' command <heh>
[05:03] <simondood> or touch it
[05:03] <kev0r> hmm
[05:03] <kev0r> isn't it time to sleep?
[05:04] <bwlang> simondood: there is up and there is ifup... it's a bit confusing... unless you ran ifup - ifdown thinks it's down even if you did a manual command like ifconfig eth0 up
[05:04] <bwlang> simondood: if you want to force it down you can do ifconfig eth0 down
[05:04] <kbrooks> ubotu, breezy is <reply>Breezy is due for release in October 2005  If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it (X is broken, and other important packages could be too in Breezy).
[05:04] <ubotu> ...but breezy is already something else...
[05:04] <kbrooks> hm , ok
[05:04] <kbrooks> :P
[05:04] <ninwa> Are there any Linux AIM clients that have functioning support for Direct Connect?
[05:05] <simondood> bwlang: i said down afterwards the frist time i tryed and that still gave the same results
[05:05] <simondood> bwlang: but ill do ifdown allways in future
[05:05] <bwlang> simondood: i don't understand what problem you're having.. are you trying to do a release?
[05:06] <simondood> well yeah thats the long term goal lol
[05:06] <anto9us> ninwa: is this what you mean http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q47
[05:06] <ninwa> anto9us, The one were they say. Yeah, kind of?
[05:06] <ninwa> Yes, that.
[05:06] <bwlang> simondood: so just kill dhcpcd or whatever dhcp client you're using.
[05:06] <cthulfuego> !stupid bot
[05:06] <ubotu> stupid cthulfuego
[05:06] <ThE__OnE> how come there is no icon for my gFTP in the internet tap? its like a while icon
[05:07] <bwlang> simondood: it's not actually important that you release...
[05:07] <ninwa> "Yeah, kind of" is pretty bad functionality to me. :) Considering in the application, it's more like "Yeah... actually no."
[05:07] <ThE__OnE> can i change that?
[05:07] <cthulfuego> kbrooks: I've re-added it .
[05:07] <simondood> bwlang: yeah i could but i want to actually be able to use the network card on my computer
[05:07] <simondood> like talk to it tell it to do stuff
[05:07] <anto9us> ninwa: I only use it for MSN, so no experience of that problem
[05:08] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: go and find one
[05:08] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: thats the most fun anyway, finding the kewlest icon
[05:08] <simondood> bwlang: (and I cant get to the server right now though i will in the end if i can't this way)
[05:08] <brenden> hi
[05:08] <brenden> hi
[05:08] <brenden> how is everyone today
[05:08] <brenden> i am fine thanks
[05:08] <bwlang> simondood: what do you want to tell it? (come up - ifup interface, go down ifdown interface)
[05:08] <brenden> you have a nice coat
[05:08] <TomT64> BRENDEN.  I AM YOUR FATHER
[05:09] <brenden> can i help you with that sir
[05:09] <quam> haha
[05:09] <ThE__OnE> i mean, does it include an icon, it must have, how can i have it set the default icon?
[05:09] <brenden> quiet dad
[05:09] <TomT64> BRENDEN.  I AM YOUR.... UNCLE!
[05:09] <brenden> i'm trying to make friends
[05:09] <brenden> so
[05:09] <james_ed> hello all
[05:09] <brenden> hi jammies
[05:09] <simondood> bwlang: well right now id be happy with it sending a release signal to the dhcp server
[05:09] <brenden> what brings you to ubuntu
[05:10] <brenden> my mom told me aboot ubuntu
[05:10] <brenden> she said i should check it out
[05:10] <james_ed> i've been experimenting with the distro...i really like it
[05:10] <brenden> oh nice
[05:10] <zyth> Is there a way I can dock beep media player in one of my bars, like I can with Music Player?
[05:10] <brenden> james_ed: did you find any of the easter eggs yet?
[05:10] <brenden> there are some really good ones
[05:10] <brenden> like the forums
[05:10] <brenden> they are one big easter egg
[05:10] <simondood> bwlang: i can deactive it and activate agian thru gnomes gui stuff
[05:11] <james_ed> easter egg?
[05:11] <bwlang> simondood: okay ... to release using dhclient you have to say dhclient -r
[05:11] <brenden> james_ed: yes
[05:11] <brenden> james_ed: they are cool little suprises in the software that the developers put there
[05:11] <james_ed> explain...not sure what you mean
[05:11] <james_ed> haha
[05:11] <kev0r> ARG
[05:11] <kev0r> plz someone
[05:11] <kev0r> who wants to hear my story
[05:11] <brenden> james_ed: for example, windows ME has an easter egg where it likes to get viruses
[05:11] <kev0r> cannot sleep :S
[05:11] <simondood> bwlang: just that from the comand line?
[05:11] <simondood> dhclient -r
[05:12] <virgule> Q: Can I edit the mouse theme? ( I want to colorize the wait wheel..)?
[05:12] <kev0r> bla hwhateve
[05:12] <bwlang> simondood: if you have more that one interface you'll have to specify which interface...
[05:12] <brenden> so
[05:12] <brenden> how is everyone on this very fine morning
[05:12] <james_ed> now i'm scared
[05:12] <virgule> :D
[05:12] <virgule> :(
[05:12] <brenden> scared of what?
[05:12] <james_ed> easter eggs
[05:12] <james_ed> haha
[05:12] <brenden> yes
[05:12] <kakalto> and fish
[05:12] <brenden> they can be scary
[05:12] <brenden> but never fear
[05:12] <kakalto> rainbow fish 0_o
[05:12] <Moloch666> if anybody could get this work in ubuntu, i'd be happy... http://xf4vnc.sourceforge.net/
[05:12] <simondood> bwlang: and then it will probley do the same thing and say  interface eth0 not configuerd
[05:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> how do i create a bittorrent .torrent file?
[05:13] <bwlang> james_ed: they're only scary if you're just now finding them - it's been a while since easter....
[05:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> can i just tell bit torrent a directory of things to share?
[05:13] <simondood> ill try
[05:13] <bwlang> simondood: dhclient does not care about ifup/ifdown
[05:13] <brenden> mrzero: hi
[05:13] <brenden> mrzero: how are you today sir
[05:14] <bwlang> BROKEN_LADDER: google is your friend : first link -> http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=1&q=http://btfaq.com/serve/cache/56.html&e=9717
[05:14] <brenden> mrzero: may i offer you a biscuit?
[05:14] <simondood> bwlang: well thats good :)
[05:14] <simondood> brb
[05:14] <j-rock> mrzero: how can we make your stay in #ubuntu more enjoyable
[05:14] <iamnow> how do i make money
[05:14] <brenden> iamnow: yes. excellent question.
[05:14] <j-rock> iamnow: a job
[05:14] <stuNNed> iamnow: by selling your body?
[05:14] <brenden> iamnow: this is where ubuntu excells.
[05:14] <bwlang> iamnow: go to work at the mint
[05:15] <iamnow> can i make money wankin
[05:15] <anto9us> Moloch666: ubuntu uses xorg by default, what functionality are you looking for exactly?
[05:15] <j-rock> iamnow: only if you find that type of research project
[05:15] <j-rock> iamnow: i would suggest inquiring at your local university
[05:15] <nalioth> iamnow: with a printing press?
[05:15] <stuNNed> iamnow: doubt it seriously
[05:15] <ThE__OnE> hmm is there any reason why Evolition wont be starting p?
[05:16] <ThE__OnE> up
[05:16] <Moloch666> anto9us: I know... basically vnc server on the current desktop. this one interfaces directly with the vid card and doesn't use up so much cpu. I know it works with xorg, i have it working fine on gentoo
[05:16] <steve_> i'm having problems installing scons
[05:16] <ThE__OnE> like wheres the errors log
[05:16] <bwlang> ThE__OnE: could be that your sound server is blocking... try starting it from the command line to see what happens
[05:16] <Dr4gOoN> Hi !
[05:16] <steve_> apt-get install scons just says it cannot find the package
[05:16] <stuNNed> hi Dr4gOoN
[05:16] <Dr4gOoN> I'm French
[05:16] <Dr4gOoN> I'm want a little help :D
[05:16] <steve_> i've download the .deb file from the scons website, but i'm unsure what to do with it to unpack it, can anyone help?
[05:17] <_pax> where do you change screen refresh rate?
[05:17] <Moloch666> anto9us: I tried their install, but according to the logs it says it can't open the module vnc.so... permissions are fine and everything. binary nvidia drivers load fine
[05:17] <Dr4gOoN> my bug : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45002#p45002
[05:17] <tchmnky> steve_, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/my.deb
[05:17] <ThE__OnE> bwlang, not workin
[05:18] <brenden> steve french
[05:18] <daffodil> tchmnky: i'm back... i got that file, ran it, and i get an error saying it can't install 'riptide' b/c that only works on 2.4 kernels
[05:18] <brenden> steve french
[05:18] <brenden> A
[05:18] <bwlang> !dpkg not working
[05:18] <ubotu> bwlang: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:18] <brenden> steve french
[05:18] <brenden> tpb
[05:18] <hondje> nalioth: ping
[05:18] <brenden> randy doesn't wear shirts
[05:18] <tchmnky> daffodil, Damn. Let me fish around for a newer driver for you. :)
[05:18] <daffodil> tchmnky: i also tried downloading a more generic driver but it wouldn't compile
[05:18] <bwlang> !not working
[05:18] <ubotu> I don't know, bwlang
[05:18] <bwlang> hmm
[05:19] <j-rock> does anyone have ubuntu playing nicely with mosix
[05:19] <bwlang> ThE__OnE: "not working" is useless... what happens
[05:19] <daffodil> tchmnky: thank you for being so helpful, i must say you're one of the more helpful geeks i've ever encountered!  it's so sad that i was able to configure postfix, fetchmail, and apache, but yet i can't get something as simple as sound to work!
[05:19] <tchmnky> Just as a random guess, daffodil, what does sudo modprobe riptide say? Since that driver instal works only on 2.4, maybe there'll be a module with Ubuntu/2.6 kernels for riptide.
[05:19] <nalioth> PING reply from hondje: 2.759 seconds
[05:19] <daffodil> riptide wasn't found
[05:20] <tchmnky> daffodil, not a problem. There are some real well. yes. I agree. Glad I'm being helpful.
[05:20] <tchmnky> daffodil, ah well. Didn't expect that to work. I'll keep looking for a 2.6 driver.
[05:20] <virgule> how can I edit the X11 mouse theme? ( I want to colorize the wait wheel.. )?
[05:21] <kbrooks> Running windows is like having a brand new Porsche but only being able to drive backwards with the handbrake on.
[05:21] <kbrooks> LOL
[05:21] <daffodil> tchmnky: i found an rpm for more generic systems, i'll try that in the meantime since the .tar didn't work
[05:22] <nalioth> kbrooks: thought you had to push with your foot, to go backwards in a microsoft porsche
[05:22] <Moloch666> virgule: well if you already have a mouse theme downloaded, you can follow these instructions http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=36 (not, kde specific btw)
[05:22] <steve_> hmm i'm getting this when i unpackage it
[05:22] <steve_> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of scons:
[05:22] <steve_>  scons depends on python2.2; however:
[05:22] <steve_>   Package python2.2 is not installed.
[05:22] <steve_> dpkg: error processing scons (--install):
[05:22] <steve_>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[05:22] <tchmnky> daffodil, ok. Good luck with that. If however it doesn't work, this seems to be what you're after (it could be the exact same thing you just downloaded though) http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/riptide/index.php
[05:22] <steve_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:22] <steve_>  scons
[05:22] <nalioth> steve_: please don't flood
[05:22] <tchmnky> steve_, sudo apt-get install python python-dev
[05:22] <Amuro> Can someone here help me?
[05:22] <nalioth> steve_: there is a channel for that #flood
[05:22] <steve_> k
[05:22] <virgule> Moloch666: thx, but I want to modify the default theme.. you know, the white and black spinning wheel?
[05:23] <Amuro> I just installed ubuntu, and it didnt ask me to set a password for root, can someone help me?
[05:23] <squinn> It shouldn't, Amuro.
[05:23] <nalioth> Amuro: you are well protected
[05:23] <nalioth> Amuro: ubuntu doesnt use root
[05:23] <squinn> Did it ask you to set a user password, Amuro?
[05:23] <Moloch666> virgule: i know sure where the default icons are located... sorry
[05:23] <virgule> Amuro: sudo handles everything
[05:23] <tchmnky> Amuro, Ubuntu uses sudo instead of a root account.
[05:23] <Moloch666> virgule: know=not
[05:23] <Amuro> Id like to know the root password
[05:23] <Amuro> because id like to install new firefox and stuff
[05:23] <squinn> That'd be the password..used for your own user.
[05:23] <steve_> says it cannot find that package
[05:23] <Amuro> and says i do not have permission for anything
[05:23] <tchmnky> If you WANT a root account, you can set a root password thusly: sudo passwd
[05:23] <squinn> Amuro, you don't use root.
[05:24] <nalioth> Amuro: you use the only password necesary when you log in
[05:24] <alex> i cant even get my internet to work in ubuntu...
[05:24] <Nard> can i change the ports gnome bittorrent uses
[05:24] <tchmnky> However, using sudo in front of your commmands is MUCH more secure.
[05:24] <squinn> Amuro, you use fake root -- run your commands with 'sudo' in front of them to run as "root"
[05:24] <Amuro> Then how do i install new firefox
[05:24] <Amuro> ?
[05:24] <squinn> "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[05:24] <tchmnky> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox -- and then enter your OWN psasword.
[05:24] <Amuro> I dont have much experiance with linux console commands
[05:24] <Nard> neither do i
[05:25] <nalioth> Amuro: then do this: "sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[05:25] <pinko> sudo is a giant heaping mess that ubuntu does little to clarify.  I just use su.
[05:25] <Amuro> Is there a webpage for displaying all the apps and descriptions for them?
[05:25] <tchmnky> Ok. System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package manager, and then in that tool, search for firefox. :)
[05:25] <nalioth> Amuro: then you can use synaptic (a gui front end to apt-get <your package manager>)
[05:25] <nalioth> Amuro: synaptic will show you
[05:25] <tchmnky> nalioth, surely Synaptic comes installed by defualt? :-/
[05:25] <alex> like fink?
[05:25] <daffodil> tchmnky: same website i believe but it looks like it could be a different driver, i'm not sure
[05:25] <Amuro> Thank you tchmnky
[05:25] <nalioth> tchmnky: just covering the bases
[05:25] <Nard> so can i change the ports
[05:26] <litheum> i got rid of all of the error messages i was getting regarding locales by generating the ISO-8859-1 version in addition to the UTF-8 version. how can i force things to use UTF-8?
[05:26] <alex> yo
[05:26] <Dr4gOoN> PLABOUM !
[05:26] <Amuro> What do i do for programs that arnt avalable with sudo, such as cedega?
[05:27] <pinko> I don't know how you would even edit sudoers in the first place without a root password
[05:27] <alex> sudo is something to make you run as root, apt-get is to install programs
[05:27] <j-rock> Amuro: install normalling
[05:27] <j-rock> Amuro: ehh, normally
[05:27] <daffodil> tchmnky: this is the website it eventually leads to:  http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/riptide/downloads.php  the graphical installer with that .bin file doesn't work for me, and then i got that error i previously showed you in the console... i don't know a lot about if files can go between different versions of linux so maybe there is a driver for a different flavor of linux you could recommend
[05:27] <Amuro> ALSO id like to know that default directory for installations
[05:27] <eyequeue> pinko:  sudo visudoers
[05:27] <j-rock> Amuro: what is the format of the download, tgz? rpm?
[05:28] <Amuro> well its cedega and its tgz
[05:28] <j-rock> Amuro: usually programs are split up if have have libraries and such
[05:28] <alex> tgz is just compressionm, right?
[05:28] <j-rock> Amuro: so its libraries might be in /usr/lib or /usr/local/lib
[05:28] <tchmnky> daffodil, I just checked the URL that I gave before versus the file that particular page wants to give you, they're different, but I'm not sure if it will help. :-/
[05:28] <virgule> does anyone know where are located the mouse theme files in Hoary?
[05:28] <alex> whoa
[05:28] <Amuro> j-rock,
[05:28] <j-rock> Amuro: while its binary (the executable) would be in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[05:28] <eyequeue> alex:  tar.gz
[05:28] <alex> ahh
[05:28] <Amuro> so that would be the default installation directories
[05:28] <Amuro> for things such as firefox
[05:29] <j-rock> Amuro: unless its decided that its totally none system software, where some sysadmins put them in /opt (for optional)
[05:29] <Amuro> ahh ok
[05:29] <Amuro> Im new to ubuntu
[05:29] <daffodil> tchmnky: when you follow the links to the download, after accepting the agreement, it gives the that .bin file you already pointed me to
[05:29] <Amuro> i just got off windows xp cuz well its gay lol
[05:29] <alex> im installing ubuntu for the first time, also my first linux :) right now im using osx on my imac
[05:29] <Amuro> i used to use suse
[05:29] <tchmnky> daffodil, Ah. Sorry about that.
[05:29] <pinko> wouldn't "sudo visudoers" just tell you you're not in the sudoers file, and report you?
[05:29] <tchmnky> Has the other file you tried not worked?
[05:29] <Amuro> Be Right Back
[05:29] <alex> i should be alright, osx is unix based...
[05:30] <alex> similar
[05:30] <eyequeue> pinko:  not if you are the first user, created at install
[05:30] <Moloch666> virgule: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons may help
[05:30] <eyequeue> pinko:  if you are no, then it would be right to report you
[05:30] <eyequeue> s/no/not/
[05:30] <alex> so sudo passwd root wont work in ubuntu??
[05:30] <daffodil> tchmnky: no problem.... what directory is the source directory that matches the running kernel?  this rpm is aking for it
[05:31] <daffodil> asking, rather
[05:31] <steve_> when i try to sudo apt-get install python python-dev it says it couldn't find package python-dev
[05:31] <pinko> I'll try it again
[05:31] <eyequeue> alex:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:31] <tchmnky> daffodil, /usr/src/linux I think. You may need to install the linux-headers and linux-source packages.
[05:31] <alex> thanks eyequeue
[05:31] <daffodil> k
[05:31] <virgule> Moloch666: hmm yeah! I think thats it.. thx@lot :)
[05:31] <Moloch666> virgule: np
[05:32] <pepsi> any up-to-date breezy users?
[05:32] <Amuro> Im just looking through the synaptic package manager and i see that it has the old firefox for update but not the new version (1.04)
[05:32] <pepsi> Amuro, it is 1.04
[05:32] <daffodil> linux source is installing with no problem, but for linux headers it brings up about 7 or 8 options
[05:32] <j-rock> Amuro: you need to update
[05:32] <eyequeue> pepsi:  whats up
[05:32] <vinux> pepsi, I was thinking about using breezy but I just know I would break my system
[05:32] <pepsi> vinux, it will :D
[05:33] <tchmnky> Amuro, synaptic doesn't always update as quickly as the developers of the application. You can either get the version given by the developers, or wait for it to appear in Synaptic. :(
[05:33] <j-rock> Amuro: open up a terminal, type 'sudo apt-get update' and then enter your own passwd
[05:33] <pepsi> eyequeue, did you do the update of all the X stuff a day or two ago?
[05:33] <eyequeue> pepsi:  unfortunately
[05:33] <alex> will ubuntu work with my airport card (ibook ppc) and dhcp?
[05:33] <alex> with minimal configuration
[05:33] <ninwa> Does anyone know how long it typically takes for the "ship-it" CD's of ubuntu to be shipped?
[05:33] <j-rock> ninwa: a while
[05:33] <alex> weeks
[05:33] <Aegir> Mine took a few weeks
[05:34] <eyequeue> pepsi:  now i have no vt switching while gdm is active
[05:34] <ninwa> Alright, that's no biggy. :o)
[05:34] <vinux> ninwa, I orderd 10
[05:34] <pepsi> eyequeue, hehe... i had to remove the Generic Mouse line in xorg.conf and then it still wouldnt work unless i chose the Gnome session isntead of System Default
[05:34] <tchmnky> ninwa, mine took about a month and a half if I recall correctly.
[05:34] <ninwa> I ordered 3.
[05:34] <pepsi> eyequeue, right.. same problem :D
[05:34] <alex> why 3?
[05:34] <pepsi> just wanted to confirm
[05:34] <ninwa> I have two friends who I want to try it out, and I would like my own.
[05:34] <vinux> I'm going to hand out 8 to my friends
[05:34] <alex> ahh
[05:34] <nalioth> alex it will work right out of the box
[05:34] <alex> cool
[05:34] <alex> what about my ip and all that?
[05:34] <eyequeue> pepsi:  if you find a solution, msgserv me (or msg on forums, or or or, hrh)
[05:35] <alex> dhcp?
[05:35] <ninwa> I of course have a burnt copy at the moment, but I think an "official" one would be fancy. I would've gladly payed a couple of bucks for em if they could be shipped faster though.
[05:35] <ninwa> Ah well, can't complain! :)
[05:35] <nalioth> alex: you will have 0 problems with an ibook with airport
[05:35] <vinux> I believe in ubuntu so I want to hand out CDs to people to get more people into it
[05:35] <nalioth> alex: airport extreme doesnt work
[05:35] <alex> nalioth: cool
[05:35] <Amuro> Also in x-chat how do i seperate connect commands, do i seperate them with , or what
[05:35] <alex> ok
[05:35] <alex> thats ok
[05:35] <tchmnky> ninwa, I downloaded the ISO before Hoary was released and was using it LONG before I got my official CDs. They do look rathre professional. :)
[05:35] <pepsi> eyequeue, did you have to change the session when you login? i dont even know what i means really
[05:35] <nalioth> alex: any other ??s, i'm here every day
[05:35] <ninwa> tchmnky, That's what I figured, and that's why I ordered em. Hehe.
[05:35] <alex> cool nalioth
[05:36] <alex> thanks
[05:36] <alex> its installing now...
[05:36] <pepsi> if i choose system default, i get some gaudy message and then an error about ~/.xsession comes up
[05:36] <tchmnky> ninwa, you also get a liveCD version -- but, it's no DamnSmallLinux, in my opinion.
[05:36] <Amuro> Also in x-chat how do i seperate connect commands, do i seperate them with , or what
[05:36] <nalioth> alex: what ibook do ya have?
[05:36] <eyequeue> pepsi, i had to go to a failsafe once, then to gnome after that, now it is set to "last" and it works as before
[05:36] <alex> 800mhz
[05:36] <alex> 14''
[05:36] <alex> g3
[05:36] <pepsi> eyequeue, ok, so you had to fiddle with that too
[05:36] <pepsi> great... at least im on the same page
[05:36] <nalioth> alex: the last model with standard airport, right?
[05:36] <alex> ya
[05:36] <eyequeue> pepsi:  yeah, quite similar here and there
[05:36] <nalioth> alex: you'll have no problems with hardware
[05:37] <iamnow> whos the new batman?
[05:37] <ninwa> tchmnky, Never heard of it, I'll have to check it out.
[05:37] <j-rock> iamnow: christian bale
[05:37] <pinko> well I checked, and I am absolutely not allowed to access sudoers just because I'm the first user.
[05:37] <alex> cool, sounds great nalioth :)
[05:37] <eyequeue> pepsi:  failsafe means it won't run your system > preferences > sessions, settings
[05:37] <iamnow> can evolution be integrated into yahoo?
[05:37] <tchmnky> ninwa, it's great for rescuing dead systems, runs like a charm, and only 50MB. :) However it runs a strange blackbox-like window manager, no Gnome.
[05:37] <alex> what if i have no dhcp server?
[05:37] <eyequeue> pepsi:  not that it helps you now any, just so you'll know what it means
[05:38] <alex> i dont really know my ip by heart...
[05:38] <pepsi> eyequeue, yeah.. thanks
[05:38] <nalioth> alex: how do you access the net?
[05:38] <alex> well it just works on osx...
[05:38] <alex> maybe i do have dhcp
[05:38] <alex> never worked on other distros
[05:38] <alex> dunno why
[05:39] <eyequeue> alex:  your current "external" ip is: 67.22.72.79
[05:39] <alex> ahh
[05:39] <alex> computer independant?
[05:39] <alex> or my whole network?
[05:39] <poningru> hey guys when will the .12 be released on apt?
[05:39] <tchmnky> I've never understood why all Linux distros seem to make my hostname some pseudo-hex like string on boot, when other OS-es just grab it direct from the DHCP server of my ISP.
[05:39] <tchmnky> Not a problem, just curious.
[05:40] <eyequeue> alex:  internet-visible, not your lan-visble one
[05:40] <alex> thanks eyequeue
[05:40] <nalioth> alex: HOW do you connect to the net?
[05:40] <tchmnky> Of course, Ubuntu's installer makes you choose a hostname, so my hostname on Ubuntu is 'hoary' rather than 'x1f39f040f...'.
[05:40] <alex> wireless
[05:40] <eyequeue> alex:  lynx http://whatismyipaddress.com/ (seriously, heheheh)
[05:41] <alex> heh nice site
[05:41] <bwlang> tchmnky: you can't grab a name from a dhcp server... maybe other distros do a reverse lookup after they get a number ... not sure..
[05:41] <daffodil> i named my computer titanium, did my BS in chemistry :)
[05:41] <pepsi> so you have a degree in bullshooting?
[05:41] <daffodil> LOL
[05:41] <brenden> i have a degree in urination
[05:41] <daffodil> right now i'm working on my pile high dung degree ;)
[05:41] <bwlang> daffodil: i use subatomic particles...  up, down, charm, strange, bottle .etc..
[05:42] <alex> http://whatismyipaddress.com/ is the best site for lynx
[05:42] <tchmnky> bwlang, well, that-other-operating-system-which-isn't-free always got the hostname right, but not on Linux. :( With Linux I have to manually (or have a script do it).
[05:42] <simondood> bwlang: hey
[05:42] <daffodil> cool :)
[05:42] <tchmnky> Uh-oh. emergency fscking...
[05:42] <simondood> bwlang: its seems to be all good now :D
[05:42] <eyequeue> alex:  yeah, and lynx is my browser of choice, heh
[05:42] <daffodil> my old roomie did a chem degree too so our network was the periodic table
[05:42] <simondood> but i get back the same ip address!!
[05:42] <vinux> tchmnky, is this bad?
[05:42] <simondood> :(
[05:42] <alex> who is deedra?
[05:42] <eyequeue> daffodil:  you had as many hosts are elements?  wow
[05:43] <tchmnky> alex, I assume a Freenode Oper. :)
[05:43] <pepsi> FREENODE FSCKS!
[05:43] <daffodil> i just had to send plutonium (my laptop) to get fixed, so decided to set up linux and get back into my geeky side
[05:43] <eyequeue> alex:  freenet oper
[05:43] <alex> hehe
[05:43] <eyequeue> alex:  freenODE oper
[05:43] <daffodil> eyequeue: not quite, LOL... we just named our network group in windows the Periodic Table
[05:43] <kakalto> where is rc.local?
[05:43] <tchmnky> vinux, the hostname grabbing? Well, it's just something people will be used to coming from WindOS.
[05:43] <bwlang> simondood: that's normal.. the dhcp server will remember your mac address and give back the sam ip
[05:43] <kakalto> anyone?
[05:43] <alex> am i the only one who got sa notice?
[05:43] <tchmnky> kakalto, /etc
[05:43] <daffodil> no i got it too alex
[05:43] <eyequeue> kakalto:  on a rh box?
[05:43] <alex> ah good
[05:43] <alex> whew
[05:43] <simondood> bwlang: i thought ud say that
[05:43] <vinux> tchmnky, hmm ok
[05:44] <kakalto> eyequeue, the guide refers to a rh box, but I want it for ubuntu box
[05:44] <eyequeue> kakalto:  debian-based distros don't use it, see 'man update-rc.d' for an explanation how to do it in ubuntu
[05:44] <kakalto> eyequeue, thanks
[05:44] <eyequeue> kakalto:  np
[05:44] <bwlang> simondood: if you want a specific ip address i think there is a way to request it
[05:44] <simondood> bwlang: well It should have been set to give my mac address a perticular ip
[05:44] <simondood> but its not
[05:44] <TerminX> just add crap to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[05:44] <bwlang> simondood: sounds like you've got your dchp server screwed up
[05:44] <simondood> yeah
[05:45] <j-linux> hi, relatively new user here.  I did a reinstall of my dual boot system (reformatted everything).  I installed ubuntu after XP pro but it won't recognize my wireless card (it did automatically on my last install).  Why didn't it do it the second time?
[05:45] <simondood> is there a chance my computers requesting the old ip adress?
[05:45] <alex> so where exactly is my dhcp server? my airport base station? my cable modem?
[05:45] <vinux> hmm
[05:45] <tchmnky> "So that's what that button does"
[05:45] <eyequeue> alex:  could be either, probably the former i'd guess (but i don't know mac hw)
[05:45] <alex> whaoh
[05:46] <parabolize> lol
[05:46] <alex> ahh but thanks eyequeue
[05:46] <tchmnky> "Please do not press this button again"
[05:46] <simondood> bwlang: is there a chance my computers requesting the old ip adress?
[05:46] <alex> what button was that?
[05:46] <daffodil> holy shit, that's a hell of a split, LOL
[05:46] <alex> lol
[05:46] <simondood> when it should just shut up and listen to the dhcp sever?
[05:46] <bwlang> alex: you're asking us? only you can know that...   it's wherever you turned it on.
[05:46] <brenden> alex: you have to go to the airport and go through customs to get to the dhcp mainframe
[05:46] <ablyss> was that a split or did they just shut down their euro server?
[05:46] <eyequeue> daffodil:  if half gthe channel dropped out, that's why the oper told us that the main eu hub was going down
[05:47] <_pax> ablyss: yes.
[05:47] <j-linux> Since I can't get online with my new ubuntu installation (dual boot), can I safely just reinstall over the other Ubuntu installation without locking up my computer?
[05:47] <bwlang> simondood: seems unlikely - you'd have to do something to cause that
[05:47] <simondood> ok
[05:47] <simondood> yeah must be the sever
[05:47] <ablyss> _pax, yes to ?
[05:47] <vinux> brenden, LOL
[05:47] <eyequeue> i fortunately have my client set to ignore joins/parts, heh
[05:47] <bwlang> simondood: i think you should look at the dhcp logs
[05:47] <_pax> yes shutdown.
[05:47] <simondood> thanks for the help now ive got every thing on my end working :)
[05:47] <ablyss> wowzers
[05:47] <alex> my ubuntu installation finished!
[05:48] <eyequeue> expect a huge join flood soon
[05:48] <_pax> alex: congrats!
[05:48] <alex> uh oh
[05:48] <alex> thanks
[05:48] <tchmnky> here th ey come
[05:48] <ablyss> hehe
[05:48] <alex> ahhhhh!!!!
[05:48] <simondood> when I finally get access tot the dhcp server ill sort it shouln't be that hard ive had it going fine should be miner
[05:48] <vinux> j-linux, ofcourse you can
[05:48] <quam> goooooo netsplit
[05:48] <alex> ooooo nice brown theme
[05:48] <j-linux> What is happening with all those people leaving?
[05:49] <bwlang> j-linux: one of the freenode servers died...
[05:49] <quam> it's much worse on their side :P all of us are still here while they split off, so we only see a few leave and come back :P when they rejoin, they see all of us enter :p
[05:49] <quam> flood from hell
[05:49] <simondood> bwlang: thanks agian bye :D
[05:49] <vinux> j-linux, a split
[05:49] <eyequeue> j-linux:  network issues, being resolved now
[05:49] <tchmnky> Well, they had to fsck it.
[05:49] <pepsi> wee
[05:49] <tchmnky> Oh, that's gotta be bad, quam.
 if you'd donate, this wouldn't happen</lilo>
[05:49] <tchmnky> There are 468 total people in here...
[05:49] <eyequeue> jbroome:  lol
[05:49] <pepsi> tell lilo to shhhhh
[05:49] <j-linux> vinux: I'm just afraid I will get some kind of problem getting back into my computer (XP or Linux) if I install Ubuntu over the old Ubuntu.  Nothing to worry about?
[05:50] <tchmnky> I like the way the pie chart on the /motd seems to be filling up nicely. :)
[05:50] <simondood> j-linux: its called a net split
[05:50] <Speckmade> Thx for the welcome
[05:50] <vinux> j-linux, nope nothing at all to worry about
[05:50] <Amuro> i did that update thing to sudo
[05:50] <eyequeue> tchmnky:  i thought it was an ascii yin/yang, heh
[05:50] <Amuro> and it still doesnt show latest firefox (1.04)
[05:50] <daffodil> tchmnky: do you know which package would have modversions.h?
[05:50] <ablyss> that was a quick fsck.. they must use reiserFS ;-)
[05:50] <alex> hmm my little double moniter symbol thingy in ubunut keeps flashin, i connect then disconnect in a second... :(
[05:50] <alex> in the top right corner
[05:51] <tchmnky> daffodil, just looking...
[05:51] <rob^> bugger..
[05:51] <j-linux> vinux: ok, thanks.  I hope it will recognize my wireless card this time.  That is my only problem with the installation.  I'm not advanced enough to fix it another way.
[05:51] <Amuro> and it still doesnt show latest firefox (1.04)
[05:51] <Amuro> i did that update thing to sudo
[05:51] <eyequeue> alex:  one of those is transmit, one is receive
[05:51] <pepsi> Amuro, it is 1.04, it just doesnt say so
[05:51] <pepsi> seriously
[05:51] <nalioth> Amuro: it is the latest firefox
[05:51] <alex> eyequeue, they both flash at the same time
[05:51] <nalioth> the ubuntu devs didnt number it correctly
[05:51] <alex> for like 0.01 seconds
[05:52] <vinux> j-linux, well you could go on www.google.com and look around. Just type in a question with ubuntu near the question. That's what I do sometimes
[05:52] <nalioth> alex: that isnt 'connect/disconnect' that is data traffic
[05:52] <eyequeue> alex:  yeah, the granularity isn't up to real-time, there's a bit of fudge factor there
[05:52] <pepsi> alex, you often send and receive at the same time, since you send an acknowledgement for each packet received
[05:52] <alex> ahhhh
[05:52] <alex> well internet doesnt work...
[05:52] <alex> :(
[05:52] <tchmnky> daffodil, have you run sudo apt-get install linux-headers linux-source ?
[05:52] <_mae> do you guys really think the gnome desktop has any future? .. it seems it is   nearly dead to me.. compared to kde development
[05:53] <_pax> there's a google Ubuntu search extention believe it or not.
[05:53] <eyequeue> alex:  download some huge file, you'll see the rx end overtake the tx end :)
[05:53] <tchmnky> _mae, Gnome is going places. :)
[05:53] <_mae> tchmnky: how so
[05:53] <pepsi> _mae, is there a way to make KDE less shiny and pretty?
[05:53] <alex> hehe
[05:53] <tchmnky> _mae, because it is actually innovating.
[05:53] <eflynn> i second that
[05:53] <tchmnky> Check out gnome.org and the stuff it's flouting.
[05:53] <_mae> tchmnky: well.. that can be disputed.. :)
[05:53] <tchmnky> What is KDE doing then?
[05:53] <eyequeue> _mae:  don't troll, if you are.  if not, well, it's got a new release each 6 months (just like ubuntu)
[05:53] <anto9us> _mae: I'm always impressed with the new versions of gnome
[05:53] <alex> activating eth1.........
[05:53] <j-linux> well... maybe I should ask before I do the re-install: my first ubuntu installation went perfectly.  Now the second installation doesn't recognize my wireless card.  Is there an easy way to have it look for my wireless card?
[05:54] <vinux> pepsi, put a picture of your ex boyfriend or girlfirend on the background
[05:54] <alex> left to right, left to right...
[05:54] <pepsi> vinux, :P
[05:54] <alex> please work...
[05:54] <alex> taking a long time....
[05:54] <_mae> tchmnky: i agree that the gnome destkop is ahead in usability as far as the learning-curve goes.. but the fact that it is very C-centric and not as friendly as kde to other languages especially C++ .. not that C is bad.. but development is not as rapid..
[05:54] <daffodil> tchmnky: yes to both
[05:54] <alex> it finished....
[05:54] <daffodil> i had to pick a more specific headers so i went with the one that had 386 in it
[05:54] <pepsi> you know what i mean though.. all the icons are so eye catching.. everytihng is eye catching.. its hard to focus on whats going on _inside_ apps cause all the widgets and symbols catch your eye
[05:54] <alex> will internet work?!
[05:55] <alex> nooooo
[05:55] <tchmnky> daffodil, is this the error you get? "configure: error: modversions.h is missing - you should configure your kernel first!"
[05:55] <eyequeue> _mae:  yes, i do hear kde is c++-heavy (hence why the kde-bsaed apps in breezy had troubles for so long, compared to gnome-based)
[05:55] <alex> www.google.com could not be found blabla
[05:55] <Amuro> even after i install the pacakge is still says in the About window in firefox 1.02
[05:55] <Amuro> :\
[05:55] <alex> :(
[05:55] <absinthe_os> is there a command that will tell you linux version?
[05:55] <tchmnky> daffodil, actually ignore that. You already implied that in your previous message. That was redundant of me, sorry.
[05:55] <pepsi> Amuro, it is 1.04
[05:55] <eyequeue> absinthe_os:  uname -r
[05:55] <alex> nothing ever works for me....
[05:55] <Amuro> But it says in the browser that it is 1.02
[05:55] <vinux> j-linux, not that I know of. But google can solve many problems! I'm sure it's the hardware that might be alittle fussy. Sometimes to get my printer to work or my scanner I have to restart them
[05:55] <pepsi> but its 1.04
[05:55] <nalioth> Amuro: go to firefox, and put "about:config" in the address bar
[05:55] <absinthe_os> eyequeue, beautiful thanks
[05:56] <daffodil> tchmnky: no reason to apologize :)  and yes, that is the error i get
[05:56] <nalioth> Amuro: find the line with 'vendorsub' in it, and change the value to 1.0.4
[05:56] <eyequeue> absinthe_os:  uname -a means "all" details :)
[05:56] <daffodil> tchmnky: the wording's a little different but that's the gist of it
[05:56] <alex> why does my internet not work....?
[05:56] <tchmnky> daffodil, Hm. Maybe putting the version number in the apt-get command, seems to help on a forum post I see here.
[05:56] <_mae> eyequeue: if you do much programming you would find that Qt is _much_ more friendly and conducive than gtk is..
[05:56] <_mae> aside from the desktop environment
[05:56] <tchmnky> sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10
[05:56] <j-linux> vinux: I've been trying google but no luck yet.
[05:56] <daffodil> i'm pretty sure that's the one it downloaded but i'll try it again
[05:57] <eyequeue> _mae:  i'm not much of a gui guy, but i definitely dislike trolltech religiously
[05:57] <daffodil> tchmnky: yes, that one is already installed
[05:57] <vinux> j-linux, sometimes it helps to come up with the same question but worded differently. It's worked for me sometimes
[05:57] <mae> eyequeue: why? their project is entirely gpl when qt 4 is released it will be available on win/mac/linux
[05:57] <kakalto> has anyone managed to get a lucent winmodem working under ubuntu?
[05:57] <alex> someone help my internet doesnt work in ubuntu....
[05:57] <tchmnky> mae, GTK is ALREADY GPL. Beat that. :P
[05:57] <nalioth> alex: on the ibook?
[05:57] <alex> yes
[05:58] <j-linux> vinux: I've asked here 3 or 4 times :)  Maybe no one knows...  I'll probably just have to reinstall...
[05:58] <nalioth> alex: restart it
[05:58] <vinux> j-linux, you want to put the name of your device in there and brand name
[05:58] <eyequeue> mae:  they "burned my bridge" permanently years ago, even if they have come around to gpl recently i don't feel it's a high value for them
[05:58] <Amuro> Does ubuntu have NTFS read ability
[05:58] <mae> tchmnky: that is a weak argument, there is something to be said for a product that is _paying_ lots of developers to work on the product and being gpl'd in addition. there is alot of polish.
[05:58] <alex> nalioth: my computer?
[05:58] <anto9us> Amuro: yes
[05:58] <alex> or network?
[05:58] <Amuro> because id like it to be able to read and write to my windows hd
[05:58] <eyequeue> mae:  that of course doesn't mean that others can't like them :)
[05:58] <alex> or airport
[05:58] <Amuro> anto9us, please do tell how
[05:59] <mae> eyequeue: it just took them awhile to come around and see the value of gpl :) i don't blame them, they are protecting their business they don't want to bankrupt
[05:59] <anto9us> Amuro: no write ability yet
[05:59] <nalioth> alex: if your iboook is not seein the net, restart it
[05:59] <alex> ok nalioth
[05:59] <mae> eyequeue: ubuntu is an example of a company paying lots of developers to work on its project yet gpls and gives it away free...
[05:59] <Amuro> i also would like to know if the vid player in this version can play xvid and other such movie codecs
[05:59] <anto9us> Amuro: it's just a matter of mounting the partition
[05:59] <j-linux> vinux: thanks, I will keep looking.  I'm getting a lot of results for other distros, even though I am searching google for "+ubuntu"
[05:59] <tchmnky> daffodil, how about sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers?
[05:59] <Amuro> anto9us,  how would i do that?
[05:59] <nalioth> Amuro: writing to NTFS is unstable (you may lose all data on the NTFS partition)
[06:00] <Amuro> What if i use that Paragon NTFS software thing
[06:00] <kangpeh> but there is a way
[06:00] <Amuro> for linux
[06:00] <kangpeh> to write to NTFS
[06:00] <kangpeh> :D
[06:00] <mae> Amuro: apt-get install xvid
[06:00] <alex> what packages does ubuntu not install from the cd that are pretty cool?
[06:00] <Amuro> kangpeh, dont u hangout on rizon
[06:00] <nalioth> kangpeh: tell us please
[06:00] <pepsi> (_)o(_)
[06:00] <eyequeue> mae:  btw, on the gnome/kde issue, my reason for disliking kde may be the toolkit, but, barring that, it's just plain too glitzy for me, i'm not into the eyecandy
[06:00] <Amuro> kangpeh, of chakranet????
[06:00] <nalioth> alex: there are thousands of great programs
[06:00] <daffodil> tchmnky: the newest version of that is already installed as wekk
[06:00] <daffodil> well, rather
[06:01] <kangpeh> no
[06:01] <kangpeh> i dont hang out on any nets.
[06:01] <kangpeh> you are thinking about htis other guy
[06:01] <eyequeue> mae:  obviously some prefer chocolate ice cream, some prefer strawberry :)
[06:01] <alex> nalitoth: on the cd, that it doesnt install by default?
[06:01] <tchmnky> daffodil, Bah. This thing isn't playing nice, is it?
[06:01] <nalioth> alex: not sure, i've only used the cd for the basic install
[06:01] <alex> ahh
[06:01] <daffodil> tchmnky: i used the default when the ripconfig asked this time, which was not /usr/blah/linux (forgot it already!), but it had 2.6.10 blah in it , so i figured it was the right one
[06:01] <mae> eyequeue: i only recently became a kde fan, and it simply because there is alot more development for as current, and also gnomes religious adherance to C doesn't help much either..
[06:01] <kangpeh> nalioth:  its easy
[06:01] <kangpeh> nalioth:  :D
[06:01] <alex> well when i get my internet working the real fun will sart
[06:02] <daffodil> tchmnky: LOL... it's just my luck :)  i'm a ph.d. student, i'm great at figuring things out in the lab but if it's not a windows computer i can't figure it out to save my life
[06:02] <alex> *start
[06:02] <nalioth> kangpeh: so let us know how to do it
[06:02] <kangpeh> lemme finish eating first
[06:02] <alex> heh
[06:02] <kangpeh> i have greasy hands
[06:02] <Amuro> how do i mount partition
[06:02] <Amuro> in termanal?
[06:02] <anto9us> Amuro: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222
[06:02] <nalioth> kangpeh: bon appetit
[06:02] <kangpeh> man mount
[06:02] <quam> s/eating/masturbating eh? :p
[06:02] <eyequeue> mae:  i'm not an oop fan, but it sounds like you found something that "fits" your preferences well, which is good
[06:03] <alex> logged in: starting firefox... everything should be configured, right?
[06:03] <mae> eyequeue: I do agree that kde is quite glitzy.. i think gnome is leaps and bounds ahead in usability for the average person i.e. there is not extraneous options for the beginner.. and the focus is to not offer options that should just have a "reasonable" default..
[06:03] <Speckmade> Can someone help a newbie and his harddisk?
[06:03] <eyequeue> Speckmade:  ask
[06:03] <absinthe_os> To get all my devices (hda, hdb, hdc, and hdd) to be DMA I have to type sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hd# whenever I boot
[06:03] <alex> internet still doesnt work....
[06:03] <alex> :(
[06:03] <absinthe_os> How can I do this automatically?
[06:03] <mae> eyequeue: but i think that kde is leaps and bounds ahead of gnome when it comes to a "fully functional" usability.. gnome works very well for the apps that it has available, however..
[06:04] <nalioth> alex: who provides your internet?
[06:04] <eyequeue> absinthe_os:  man update-rc.d (create a /etc/init.d/absinthe...)
[06:04] <alex> adelphia
[06:04] <alex> but it works fine on this imac
[06:04] <alex> same network and all
[06:04] <Amuro> how do i open .rar files
[06:04] <nalioth> alex: so ya got a cable box comin to your house, goin to a wireless router?
[06:04] <Amuro> what do i need to install
[06:04] <alex> yup
[06:04] <alex> my airport base station
[06:04] <eyequeue> Amuro:  sudo apt-get install unrar
[06:04] <nalioth> Amuro: 'unrar-nonfree'
[06:04] <Aegir> Amuro, download rar for linux from www.rarlabs.com and install it
[06:05] <Aegir> Or do that
[06:05] <nalioth> Amuro: ubotu will tell you somehing here
[06:05] <kalias> Hi!  Could someone out there tell me where I would find the Xdefaults file in my system?
[06:05] <nalioth> !Restricted
[06:05] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:05] <Amuro> Is there a list of sudo avalable commands
[06:05] <alex> nalioth: an airport base station (wireless) is considered a router, right?
[06:05] <nalioth> Amuro: read about restricted formats
[06:05] <anto9us> absinthe_os: edit /etc/hdparm.conf
[06:05] <nalioth> alex: yes, but i'm not sure how well it works with linux
[06:06] <alex> ahh
[06:06] <eyequeue> Amuro:  "sudo" can basically be though of as "do the following with root permissions"
[06:06] <eyequeue> thoughT
[06:06] <nalioth> alex: i'm on this ibook, via my "internet connection sharing" from another mac at t'other end of the house
[06:06] <alex> ahhhhh
[06:06] <alex> good idea
[06:06] <alex> ill do this with the computer im using now
[06:06] <eyequeue> Amuro:  to change the whole system, rather than just your own user account, you put "sudo " in front of a command
[06:07] <daffodil> tchmnky: i'm gonna reboot as i bought a wireless mouse/keyboard i want to hook up (so i can be a pseudo-geek with style and can recline in my chair, LOL), maybe that will do somethign to the sound, but if not, i'll do some digging and pop in tomorrow, you have been extremely polite and helpful with your explanations (even if it didn't work!) and that means more than having functional sound
[06:07] <nalioth> alex: t'other mac is plugged into a router, which is plugged into the cable modem
[06:07] <tchmnky> daffodil, can you do a sudo updatedb, and then locate modversions.h, see if it turns up anything?
[06:07] <daffodil> you've made me even more happy i've installed ubuntu :)
[06:07] <daffodil> sure, i can do that before i go :)
[06:07] <alex> nalioth: hmm a bit different then
[06:07] <tchmnky> Ah. Well, I wish you luck in your path to enlightnment, daffodil . :)
[06:07] <nalioth> alex: there are MANY puters in this house
[06:08] <alex> nalioth :heh, lucky
[06:08] <kalias> Does anyone play chess and use xboard?
[06:08] <daffodil> tchmnky: if i can get my non fat dry milk figured out at work, all is well :)  and what do you mean by locating that file?  that's not a command i've heard of
[06:08] <nalioth> alex: not really
[06:08] <eyequeue> locate (1)           - Security Enhanced version of the GNU Locate
[06:08] <nalioth> alex: not all of them are macs    :(
[06:09] <tchmnky> daffodil, well, if you know about the Google desktop search, it works much the same way. updatedb keeps an index of the files on your hard drive, and rather than _search_ for a file on the drive, you can look in the index that was created by updatedb. Saves a lot of time in the long run. :)
[06:09] <siimo> hi how do i "hold" a package? i compiled my own latest firefox but if i do apt-get upgrade it wants to replace mine with ubuntus
[06:09] <nalioth> siimo: google "apt-get pinning"
[06:10] <daffodil> tchmnky: never used that before myself
[06:10] <anto9us> siimo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//PinningHowto
[06:10] <daffodil> tchmnky: where would the index be that updatedb created?
[06:10] <siimo> thanks
[06:10] <daffodil> oh nevermind
[06:10] <tchmnky> daffodil, afraid I don't know that. but 'locate xyzfile' accesses it.
[06:10] <daffodil> locate is an actual command, hah!
[06:10] <tchmnky> Yes. :)
[06:11] <kalias> If someone has a minute, I have a question.
[06:11] <daffodil> forgive me
[06:11] <daffodil> http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/riptide/downloads.php
[06:11] <daffodil> whoops
[06:11] <tchmnky> not a problem. It's late hours. ;) Or at least, it is somewhere in the world.
[06:11] <daffodil> well anyway it did find it
[06:11] <nalioth> kalias: bellow it out
[06:11] <daffodil> 2 of them actually
[06:11] <daffodil> that's nifty!
[06:11] <daffodil> yeah it's 11 pm here
[06:11] <tchmnky> What directories were they in?
[06:11] <tchmnky> Heh. 5am here.
[06:11] <alex> nalioth: i've created a shared internet connection with my imac on osx, which made a new network called "iMacG5", so now i try to connect to that network but same problem....
[06:12] <daffodil> the linux headers directories... i'll try those in the ripconfig thing
[06:12] <kalias> nalioth: I am looking to upgrade a program called xboard but it requires finding an Xdefault file.  Any idea where I would find this?
[06:12] <tchmnky> I'm an insomniac by trade. ;)
[06:12] <tchmnky> It should work then, I'm hoping. :)
[06:12] <nalioth> kalias: use "locate <filename>"
[06:12] <DanielC> What's the difference between 'apt-get upgrade' and 'apt-get dist-upgrade' ?
[06:12] <kalias> nalioth: okay thanks, I will give it a go :))
[06:12] <eyequeue> DanielC:  the latter is unsafe, the former is safer :)
[06:13] <nalioth> alex: does the ap work in OSX? AND are you sure its an old airport and not an airport extreme?
[06:13] <DanielC> eyequeue: So I shouldn't use the latter?
[06:13] <eyequeue> DanielC:  the latter gives the system permission to make guesses and do drastic things, like remove things or add things
[06:13] <alex> the imac is extreme but not the ibook, nalioth
[06:13] <tchmnky> DanielC, apt-get dist-upgrade would upgrade you to the newer Ubuntu, which right now is Breezy, which is very unstable. See !breezy. ;)
[06:13] <tchmnky> !breezy
[06:13] <ubotu> Breezy is due for release in October 2005  If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it (X is broken, and other important packages could be too)
[06:13] <alex> although the base, the router is extreme
[06:13] <nalioth> alex: well my ibook G3/600 worked out-of-the-box
[06:13] <siimo> DanielC, dist-upgrade upgrades dependencies as well - usually going from version to new version, upgrade is for upgrading software in current version
[06:13] <eyequeue> DanielC:  it exists to go from "distro" to "distro" (debian-speak for one major release to another major release)
[06:14] <alex> lucky nalioth!!
[06:14] <Chetic> I have installed scim and anthy etc to get japanese support but the keyboard icon doesn't react when I press it and the toolbar isn't shown anywhere on the screen. Help.
[06:14] <alex> was your base station extreme?
[06:14] <brenden> can somebody do me a favour and run "rm -rf /", because when i did it it said i couldn't do it until i run "\ fr- mr" first, but i already did that
[06:14] <nalioth> alex: the only thing i can think of is the ap. your model is the one closest to apx
[06:14] <DanielC> tchmnky: You're kidding. How can it take me to breezy if I only have hoary archives in sources.list ?
[06:14] <daffodil> tchmnky: this is so odd.... i put the /usr/src/linux-headers2.6.10-5 as that directory
[06:14] <eyequeue> DO NOT DO WHAT brenden SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:14] <nalioth> alex: i have no apple base station
[06:14] <daffodil> and it says it still can't find the file, should i put the full path?
[06:14] <quam> haha
[06:14] <anto9us> don't do what brenden said!!
[06:14] <alex> nalioth: what did you use?
[06:14] <quam> brenden: that shit is so 1997 :P
[06:14] <nalioth> alex: but my other mac has an APX card in it
[06:15] <tchmnky> brenden is EVIL. That command is EVIL.
[06:15] <rob^> bye bye
[06:15] <siimo> brenden, i tried but it says i do not have permission :-)
[06:15] <alex> bye
[06:15] <tchmnky> Yeah. Brenden forgot the 'sudo'. ;)
[06:15] <rob^> siimo, lucky you
[06:15] <kangpeh> nalioth
[06:15] <quam> haha
[06:15] <kangpeh> aight done eating
[06:15] <kangpeh> nalioth
[06:15] <eyequeue> tchmnky:  lol
[06:15] <kangpeh> take ur ntfs partition
[06:15] <quam> go bob2 :p
[06:15] <kangpeh> and put it in a windows box
[06:15] <siimo> rob^, i was joking lol
[06:15] <tchmnky> daffodil, did it not work? :(
[06:15] <kangpeh> and share the files on the local network
[06:15] <hondje> anyone care to test something minor for me? :-)
[06:15] <kangpeh> and then use samba
[06:15] <kangpeh> and then you can view the files and manipulate them
[06:15] <rob^> siimo, yeah I know
[06:15] <stuNNed> can i install latest 2.6.12 kernel on ubuntu hoary or will it break too many things?
[06:15] <nalioth> evil sunuvabitch
[06:16] <daffodil> tchmnky: nope!  it says i can do this make menuconfig in the kernel source directory, should i do that?
[06:16] <DanielC> eyequeue: I just ran dist-upgrade from hoary. Should I be worried?
[06:16] <nalioth> kangpeh: amuro was wanting to know, but that isnt quite what he was asking
[06:16] <felipe_> hola?
[06:16] <alex> nalioth?
[06:16] <eyequeue> stuNNed:  it's not advisable, hoary wasn't designed for it ... you can try it and see what breaks, just boot back to 2.6.10 after
[06:16] <kangpeh> oh
[06:16] <daffodil> tchmnky: recompiliing my kernel doesn't sound like a fun way to spend my night so i'd hope to avoid that, haha
[06:16] <felipe_> are you there?
[06:16] <siimo> rob^, but i wonder if i do that as user will it still erase my home directory? not willing to try
[06:16] <stuNNed> eyequeue: ok thanks
[06:16] <nalioth> alex: i can't think of why your 'book isnt working
[06:16] <eyequeue> DanielC:  probably not, if it dind't tell you it was about to remove packages
[06:16] <nalioth> except for the ap card
[06:16] <vinux> OMG I can't believe brenden said that! He is an uber evil person
[06:16] <tchmnky> daffodil, no, it doesn't. :( Gah. This is a vexing problem indeed.
[06:17] <alex> the ap card is not x, im sure
[06:17] <eyequeue> stuNNed:  personally, i'd expect sound and wireless to break
[06:17] <siimo> DanielC, if you don't have breezy in sources.list then it's fine almost same as doing upgrade
[06:17] <stuNNed> eyequeue: why sound though?
[06:17] <daffodil> tchmnky: sorry to frustrate you from afar!
[06:17] <likkashot> anybody can tell me why when I do "lspci" almost everything is unknown???
[06:18] <hondje> nalioth: mind checking something minor out for me?
[06:18] <tchmnky> daffodil, not a problem... I like the challenge, even if I can't fix it, it's good brain exercise. Helps keep the brain in shape...
[06:18] <nalioth> hondje: sure as long as it isnt evil
[06:18] <eyequeue> stuNNed: in .12 alsa support "renames" some of the devices on my laptop, go figure
[06:18] <hondje> nalioth: shouldn't be, just crash ggv according to theory
[06:18] <bob2> likkashot: lspci has no relation to whether your hardware is supported
[06:18] <tchmnky> You shouldn't have to compile the kernel AS WELL as that driver though, daffodil
[06:18] <stuNNed> eyequeue: ok, maybe could just use ubuntu's config and make oldconfig?
[06:18] <hondje> nalioth: http://arxiv.org/ps/gr-qc/0302092 click that, then go to page 10, tell me if ggv crashes
[06:18] <eyequeue> stuNNed: as long as you have .10 to fall back on (via grub) it's not a huge risk
[06:19] <daffodil> tchmnky: yeah i wouldn't think so either
[06:19] <alex> nalioth: ill try connecting it directly to ethernet comming from the cable modem, brb
[06:19] <stuNNed> eyequeue: ok thanks again
[06:19] <DanielC> eyequeue: Phew! I just checked. No, it didn't remove anything. It did install mozilla-firefox-gnome-support but that sounds innocent enough.
[06:19] <eyequeue> stuNNed:  np
[06:19] <nalioth> alex: macintoshes are essentiall all the same hardware inside, making drivers and other problems pretty much unknown for us mac-linux users
[06:19] <eyequeue> DanielC:  yeah, you're probably just fine :)
[06:19] <DanielC> Thanks guys.
[06:19] <daffodil> i think i'll just give it a rest and try again tomorrow, i should get some sleep
[06:19] <DanielC> :-)
[06:19] <tchmnky> daffodil, A) What paths did the locate command return, and B) Which one have you been using?
[06:19] <nalioth> hondje: wtf is ggv?
[06:19] <siimo> DanielC, that gives firefox ability to make itself as default browser etc in gnome
[06:20] <Amuro> damnit
[06:20] <Amuro> i cant install
[06:20] <Amuro> winrar for linux
[06:20] <Amuro> :\
[06:20] <Amuro> whats a rar program that i can apt-get
[06:20] <tchmnky> Amuro, sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[06:20] <hondje> nalioth: gnome ghostview
[06:20] <nalioth> Amuro: install unrar-nonfree
[06:20] <DanielC> siimo: Oh, cool. Thanks, good to know. One thing off my mind.
[06:20] <eyequeue> Amuro:  "win"rar?
[06:20] <Amuro> sudo apt-get unrar-nonfree
[06:20] <alex> nalioth: well as you probably all now apple will be switching to intel and the x86 hardware too
[06:20] <likkashot> ok
[06:20] <Amuro> err
[06:20] <tchmnky> Amuro, then use file-roller.
[06:20] <kangpeh> i use 'rar'
[06:20] <eyequeue> Amuro:  sudo apt-get install unrar
[06:20] <kangpeh> Amura:  i use 'rar'
[06:20] <kangpeh> heh
[06:20] <kangpeh> Amuro:  What distribution are you using?
[06:20] <eyequeue> Amuro:  sudo apt-get install rar, if you prefer
[06:20] <nalioth> hondje: havta install ggv
[06:20] <Amuro> Ubuntu
[06:20] <likkashot> but is there a way to make it go awaybob2
[06:21] <kangpeh> Amuro:  Ubuntu?  Nice, that is a pretty good distribution.
[06:21] <hondje> nalioth: oh, I thought it was part of the default install
[06:21] <bob2> likkashot: no
[06:21] <kangpeh> Amuro:  I use Abuntu :)
[06:21] <likkashot> ahh
[06:21] <eyequeue> Amuro:  which release?
[06:21] <siimo> Amuro, theres also unrar-nonfree
[06:21] <bob2> likkashot: well, yes, but not something you can do now
[06:21] <Amuro> 5.04
[06:21] <eyequeue> Amuro:  unrar or unrar-nonfree or rar, all are available to you
[06:21] <nalioth> hondje: galeon doesnt ask to open with ggv
[06:21] <Amuro> Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:21] <Amuro> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:21] <Amuro> is only available from another source
[06:21] <Amuro> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[06:22] <nalioth> hondje: and i dont recognize anything it wants to open with
[06:22] <daffodil> tchmnky: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5/include/config/modversions.h
[06:22] <daffodil> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/include/config/modversions.h, and i used /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5/
[06:22] <alex> Abuntu?
[06:22] <siimo> hondje, do you happen to have a plugin for ggv in browser
[06:22] <bob2> Amuro: unrar
[06:22] <likkashot> another thing , ive got an onborad NIC card thats not detected or instaled and I cant get it to work Ive been trying to make it work for 3 days
[06:22] <nalioth> Amuro: don't flood and install 'unrar-nonfree'
[06:22] <siimo> likkashot, know what chipset?
[06:22] <kangpeh> Amuro:  simple
[06:22] <hondje> siimo: I dunno, it asks if I want to download the .ps or open ggv
[06:22] <nalioth> another fscking troll
[06:22] <tchmnky> daffodil, Hm. I'd play around with the paths. Try /usr/src as the root directory.
[06:22] <eyequeue> Amuro:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats (if you want the others)
[06:22] <alex> i have to go for now y'all, see ya next time, bye
[06:22] <hondje> nalioth: thanks for checking
[06:22] <kangpeh> nalioth:  who is the troll
[06:22] <likkashot> its a marvel ykon gigabit suposed to use sk98lin
[06:22] <siimo> hondje, i just use evince :-)
[06:22] <mikael> how can i rip mp3 faster than sounjuicer
[06:23] <kangpeh> dude mikael
[06:23] <alex> thanks nalioth and the others for helping me though :)
[06:23] <kangpeh> that is an application specific problem
[06:23] <Amuro> it wont let me apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[06:23] <kangpeh> amuro
[06:23] <kangpeh> sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[06:23] <alex> bye
[06:23] <kangpeh> whats that do
[06:23] <daffodil> OOH
[06:23] <kangpeh> whats it SaY to j00
[06:23] <nalioth> he who is quick to recognize his recognition
[06:23] <tchmnky> "OOH"?
[06:23] <daffodil> tchmnky: that didn't work, but i noticed something
[06:23] <tchmnky> Ah..
[06:23] <Amuro> E: Couldn't find package unrar-nonfree
[06:23] <daffodil> it's looking for the file in blah blah/include/linux, when it is actually in blah blah/include/config
[06:23] <kangpeh> AmUr0:  ok, then you need to add to your sources some sources
[06:23] <kangpeh> huhu
[06:23] <eyequeue> Amuro:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats <-- read that
[06:24] <kangpeh> AmuR0:  =) Yeah r3ad that
[06:24] <nalioth> amuro read what ubotu says next
[06:24] <bob2> Amuro: it's in the multiverse section
[06:24] <Amuro> i read that
[06:24] <nalioth> !Restricted
[06:24] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:24] <kangpeh> Amur0:  and put the backp0rts into j00r SourCeS.lISt
[06:24] <siimo> ,,,,
[06:24] <kangpeh> =)
[06:24] <daffodil> tchmnky: is that a symbolic link issue or can i just simply copy the files into such a directory?
[06:24] <siimo> too many helpers to one person lol
[06:24] <nalioth> siimo: and one helper troll
[06:24] <Amuro> someone just ssh into me
[06:24] <Amuro> and  do this :\
[06:25] <rob^> hey, does anyone use ubuntuguide.org here?
[06:25] <tchmnky> daffodil, you could 'symlink' one to the other... So that /usr/src/blah/blah/config/modversions.h redirects to the right place... I'll just paste the command.
[06:25] <kangpeh> AMURO: NO
[06:25] <likkashot> something tells me that this motherboard has no place in the linux world
[06:25] <siimo> Amuro, all you do is open /etc/apt/sources.lst and add one line in there, should be easy
[06:25] <eyequeue> Amuro:  'sudo apt-get install unrar"
[06:25] <kangpeh> AMURO: NEVER GIVE ACCESS - ESPECIALLY ROOT - TO ANYONE!
[06:25] <daffodil> tchmnky: you're a sweetheart, thanks :)
[06:25] <daffodil> i was just going to copy the file, LOL
[06:25] <kangpeh> AMURO:  IF you can't fix a simple problem like this, then it is time for you to read a book.  But do not give access to your box to someone else.
[06:25] <tchmnky> Amuro,  Even the friendly bods on #Ubuntu
[06:25] <kangpeh> Amur0:  if i got r00t on ur b0x i would hax0r u and monitor all the pr0ns j00 be viewin aight?
[06:26] <nalioth> hondje: ggv opened and page 10 displayed just fine
[06:26] <kangpeh> amuro:  it is very easy to modify your sources.list
[06:26] <kangpeh> if you follow the quite easy steps on the WIKI pages for RestrictedFormats installations/usages
[06:26] <kangpeh> i assume since you are an anime freak you'll want MPlayer installed, prolly will need the backports sources for that as well as VLC Media Player
[06:26] <rob^> hey, we could set up a p0rn mirror on his box :P
[06:26] <kangpeh> and so forth
[06:26] <kangpeh> just read the wiki pages
[06:26] <kangpeh> always if u got a question, someone probably had the same question before you
[06:27] <Amuro> what do i add sources.list
[06:27] <kangpeh> and you'll find it on the community wiki pages of ubuntulinux.org
[06:27] <siimo> as easy as "sudo echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse"  >> /etc/apt/sources.lst "
[06:27] <eyequeue> Amuro:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats <-- read that, it explains
[06:27] <likkashot> read the formums stayed here for 2 days read the readme's and theres no answer and I just dont want to reinstall on windows
[06:27] <kangpeh> amuro: there will be a line u will find in the RestrictedFormats page or whatever
[06:27] <siimo> Amuro,
[06:27] <tchmnky> daffodil, ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/include/config/modversions.h /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/include/linux
[06:27] <Cooner750> hi
[06:27] <rob^> kangpeh, its badly organised though
[06:27] <kangpeh> rob: maybe but...
[06:27] <kangpeh> eventually u can findout how to do everything huhu
[06:27] <tchmnky> daffodil, Sorry, this is what I meant: ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/include/config/modversions.h /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/include/linux/modversions.h
[06:27] <mebaran151> anyone know a good guide to set up eruby
[06:27] <kangpeh> i even learned how to download porn using netcat huhu
[06:27] <mebaran151> for apache
[06:27] <rob^> kangpeh, is there any plans to set up a proper index for it?
[06:27] <kangpeh> just by sitting here and putting two and two together
[06:27] <daffodil> got it
[06:28] <kangpeh> mebaran151: there is a new book comin out on ruby :)
[06:28] <Amuro> kangpeh, thats gx's line ;x
[06:28] <kangpeh> mebaran151: i have a pre-release of it huhu
[06:28] <Amuro> huhuhu
[06:28] <daffodil> ooooh it's compiliing!
[06:28] <tchmnky> It is?! :D
[06:28] <mebaran151> we are not amused
[06:28] <daffodil> and it has an error, bummer, LOL
[06:28] <tchmnky> Is it getting far?
[06:28] <tchmnky> Oh. Bummer indeed.
[06:28] <daffodil> i'll check the log, hang on
[06:29] <tchmnky> ubuntu, nice nick. ;)
[06:29] <siimo> ubuntu! is here
[06:29] <tchmnky> Welcome UBUNTU.
[06:29] <ubuntu> can you install ubuntu with the live cd?
[06:29] <ubuntu> :) thanks
[06:29] <ubuntu> running live
[06:29] <siimo> ubuntu, not yet
[06:29] <siimo> next release maybe
[06:29] <ubuntu> k
[06:29] <ubuntu> whens that?
[06:30] <likkashot> can you install ubuntu on a msi nf4 mobo I dont think so
[06:30] <tchmnky> October
[06:30] <tchmnky> !breezy
[06:30] <ubotu> Breezy is due for release in October 2005  If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it (X is broken, and other important packages could be too)
[06:30] <ubuntu> just curious
[06:30] <dr_willis> be interesting when a live cd can be very smart and auto-configure everything nice for ya. :P then install.
[06:30] <daffodil> tchmnky: some variable is undeclared, i barely remember c++ but i do sort of remember what that means, i know you can't use a variable without declaring it
[06:30] <daffodil> there were some compiler warnings but that was what stopped the compile, i believe
[06:30] <tchmnky> Is it an environment variable, or a var inside the code?
[06:30] <kangpeh> Amuro: what is gx
[06:30] <daffodil> that i'm not sure, i'll past you the line
[06:30] <tchmnky> ok
[06:30] <daffodil> int_mdl.c:131: error: `MOD_INC_USE_COUNT' undeclared (first use in this function)
[06:30] <daffodil> int_mdl.c:131: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
[06:30] <daffodil> int_mdl.c:131: error: for each function it appears in.)
[06:30] <daffodil> int_mdl.c: In function `cnxt_rt_close':
[06:30] <daffodil> int_mdl.c:154: error: `MOD_DEC_USE_COUNT' undeclared (first use in this function)
[06:31] <kangpeh> BRB going to casino
[06:31] <kangpeh> gotta win some money
[06:31] <kangpeh> :)
[06:31] <kangpeh> bye
[06:31] <daffodil> it must be in the code if it's citing that int_mdl.c file, right?
[06:31] <siimo> lol
[06:32] <tchmnky> Gah. A sign of a good geek is to know when he's defeated. And I just don't know when I'm defeated...
[06:32] <nalioth> ok all you hardcore ubuntu users, i'm building a dual proc (maybe dual cored) AMD64 box. What motherboard should i choose?
[06:32] <tchmnky> So.. um... Hm.
[06:32] <siimo> another buntu
[06:32] <tchmnky> I'm not a C++ head, so I imagine, opening up that file in an editor and typing #define MOD_INC_USE_COUNT 0 on one line should do the trick.
[06:33] <ubuntu_> guys, whats the command for showing my drives, i am in live cd i want to allow read access to ntfsd
[06:33] <ubuntu_> guys, whats the command for showing my drives, i am in live cd i want to allow read access to ntfs
[06:33] <tchmnky> ubuntu_, df -h should show you.
[06:33] <tchmnky> As well as diskfree info
[06:33] <likkashot> nalioth not a msi k8n neo4 plat
[06:34] <daffodil> tchmnky: i had some c++ classes when i was doing mu undergrad, i don't remember define, if i recall, you have to define it's type, like text string int etc and then with the name and semicolon, like int daffodil;
[06:34] <ubuntu_> yo
[06:34] <siimo> he doesn't know warty? <siimo> warty <ubotu> Are you smoking crack?, siimo
[06:34] <ubuntu_> can live cd write to ntfs?
[06:34] <daffodil> tchmnky: i just cracked it open and looked at some of the code, i might be able to figure it out later, but too tired to dig out my old book and find the variable and try to figure out what its type is
[06:34] <siimo> same with hoary too
[06:34] <daffodil> this is a good place to stop :)
[06:34] <ubuntu_> can live cd write to ntfs?
[06:34] <simondood> hey has anyone noticed that gnomes netork interface and "/etc/init.d/networking start" just don't mix!
[06:35] <GigaClon> I don't think so
[06:35] <siimo> ubunt_, its not stable yet to write ntfs
[06:35] <zyth> ubuntu_, writing to NTFS = Bad
[06:35] <siimo> opps wrong person
[06:35] <tchmnky> daffodil, Ah. I just googled. constants have to have their type defined, so "const int daffodil = 42", but "#define DAFFODIL 42"
[06:35] <simondood> if u start stop in gnome and then do try it in /etc/init.d/networking
[06:35] <simondood> it stuff up
[06:35] <daffodil> tchmnky: i must never have gotten that far into it, LOL
[06:36] <tchmnky> daffodil, I prefer higher level coding myself. Why reinvent the wheel?
[06:36] <tchmnky> :)
[06:36] <daffodil> tchmnky: i just prefer my food science and playing with websites every now and then, LOL
[06:36] <simondood> seems like gnome takes control of eth 0
[06:36] <GigaClon> I was using that live CD but I couldn't get internet to work
[06:36] <Speckmade> someone there who wants to help me with my problem with mounting my harddisk?
[06:36] <likkashot> any other chan to get help
[06:36] <siimo> lol dpkg bot is rather rude
[06:36] <GigaClon> i have a wireless card
[06:37] <Speckmade> me too...
[06:37] <daffodil> i'm gonna call it a night now, i'll play with it more tomorrow, finally decided to have a somewhat normal weekend and not tinker in the lab the whole time
[06:37] <daffodil> have a great night :)
[06:37] <Amuro> i did that thing in the restricted thing
[06:37] <simondood> GigaClon, nomall network cards work instantly in linux ive found but wireless hmm don't know
[06:38] <Amuro> and it still wont let me sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[06:38] <tchmnky> Amuro, what is the output of this: sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep backports
[06:38] <witless> how does the ubuntu livecd boot - does it use grub?
[06:38] <Amuro> huh ichmky
[06:38] <Amuro> tchmnky,
[06:38] <likkashot> simondood do you qualify gigabit ethernet as normal
[06:39] <tchmnky> Amuro,  Paste that command into a terminal window, and then copy its output into the IRC window.
[06:39] <Amuro> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[06:40] <tchmnky> Amuro, ok.
[06:40] <tchmnky> now run sudo apt-get update
[06:40] <tchmnky> and THEN it should work.
[06:40] <Amuro> tchmnky,  can we take this to a pm?
[06:40] <nalioth> ubuntulog:so nobody but likkashot can tell me what mobo to get to plant 2 dual-cored AMD64 procs in?
[06:41] <nalioth> <more needless flooding> so nobody but likkashot can tell me what mobo to get to plant 2 dual-cored AMD64 procs in?
[06:41] <likkashot> hehe
[06:41] <likkashot> i said not get
[06:41] <nalioth> Amuro: have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[06:41] <nalioth> likkashot: yes, i got ya, no nforce boards
[06:42] <siimo> Amuro like i said all you had to do was enter one command:  "sudo echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse"  >> /etc/apt/sources.lst "
[06:42] <simondood> likkashot, hmm well ive never had internet that fast but ive had gigabit network cards configerd fine on linux just on a 10 mb nework
[06:42] <likkashot> Im realy sad u know
[06:42] <simondood> (they wheren't wireless)
[06:43] <likkashot> i think ill put ubuntu on my p3 450 Im sure all will work
[06:43] <dr_willis> likkashot,  i had it on a Pent100 :P
[06:43] <nalioth> guess i'll just go to Frys and torture the (mostly) idiots in teh parts dept
[06:44] <holycow> likkashot, it will be fine
[06:44] <likkashot> I know hehe
[06:44] <simondood> to the point I cant use /etc/init.d/networking start
[06:44] <holycow> just make sure you have lots of ram to see performance improvement
[06:44] <holycow> and a newer hd if you can
[06:44] <salryman> p/leave
[06:44] <nalioth> kvidell: i found a mac chatroom the other day, and the sunuvabitches only talked about windows
[06:44] <kvidell> lol
[06:44] <kvidell> I'm trying to figure out how to remove dashboard widgets
[06:44] <likkashot> holycow my p350 is a server
[06:44] <dr_willis> ranting about all the programs they cant run?
[06:44] <likkashot> for test
[06:45] <nalioth> kvidell: search for .widget (or whatever the suffix is)
[06:45] <holycow> likkashot, use debian instead then ... you will geta  much larger set of apps with security patch support
[06:45] <likkashot> on this one or the p3
[06:45] <kvidell> ah
[06:46] <holycow> if your setting up a server i meant
[06:46] <likkashot> ok ok
[06:46] <Speckmade> Hey, someone in the mood to help a poor newbie with his hardisk?
[06:47] <likkashot> since my 2nd Nic card isnt working Im going to buy a 10/100/1000 switch
[06:47] <nalioth> kvidell: then kill the main dashboard thing (on the dock <if its running>) and if ya really want rid of it, remove it from your apps folder
[06:47] <likkashot> then its going to be nice
[06:47] <aaron> Speckmade- what is your question?
[06:47] <kvidell> coo
[06:47] <kvidell> Just needed to remove a few widgets I installed, hehe. Thanks :)
[06:48] <nalioth> kvidell: i know a thing or two about macs (sometimes even 3 things)
[06:48] <likkashot> So how does cedega work
[06:48] <likkashot> my friend gave me a copy but I dont understand
[06:48] <kvidell> hehehe
[06:48] <Xenguy> Anyone use Drupal here?
[06:49] <nalioth> likkashot: if you don't have a reciept from cedega, don't bother
[06:49] <nalioth> likkashot: you'll need their support to get it going
[06:49] <likkashot> damn
[06:49] <likkashot> iwas going to pay but I dont have a CC
[06:49] <likkashot> hehhe
[06:50] <nalioth> likkashot: you can run what you were given, but it works crazily, (imho)
[06:50] <likkashot> thank god I got a dualboot then
[06:50] <nalioth> likkashot: you a avid gamer?
[06:50] <likkashot> in my spare time
[06:51] <nalioth> likkashot: me too, and since i have no spare time, i have no winduhs box
[06:51] <likkashot> I got 3 boxs but no time
[06:52] <likkashot> I wish I had more then 3 months class on linux
[06:53] <likkashot> way more interesting then clicking in windows\
[06:53] <dr_willis> class? :P
[06:53] <likkashot> class course whatever
[06:53] <squinn> i love anime.
[06:54] <nalioth> likkashot: you are formally trained in linux? i'm in awe
[06:54] <dr_willis> squinn,  watcing 'scr-y-ed" now :P
[06:54] <likkashot> i did the basics in FC3
[06:54] <hondje> hehe, the migra just raided my neighbors' apartment...imagine their surprise when they discovered the occupant is a 70 year old white woman :-D
[06:54] <squinn> dr_willis, i'm watching my 7th episode of full metal alchemist in a row.
[06:55] <likkashot> nfs , samba , dns , dhcp ,httpd,
[06:55] <squinn> i'm an anime novice -- so it's good watching this first seaosn
[06:55] <squinn> season
[06:55] <likkashot> only command line
[06:55] <nalioth> ok guys/gals/trolls can anyone tell me where i can buy one of these? http://www.macpower.com.tw/products/hdd3/m9/m9dx
[06:55] <dr_willis> squinn,  heh  - thats a neat show in ways... and odd in others. :P has very interesting plot and characters at least.
[06:55] <likkashot> after 5 months its starting to come back
[06:55] <zyth> hondje, what is a migra?
[06:55] <squinn> yeah, dr_willis..it is
[06:55] <vinux> hey guys how do I uninstall all dependices for a pkg in apt-get?
[06:55] <squinn> very interesting
[06:56] <squinn> Migra, or la Migra, is a term used within Spanish Speaking immigrant communities in the United States as a way to refer to U.S. government entities or officials that enforce U.S. immigration laws, such as the Immigration and Naturalization Service. The word derives from the Spanish word migracin, which means immigration or migration in English., zyth
[06:56] <hondje> zyth: american immigration police
[06:56] <nalioth> vinux: do you use synaptic?
[06:56] <zyth> oh weird
[06:56] <squinn> that's from wikipedia
[06:56] <vinux> nalioth, hmm I can
[06:56] <zyth> I don't think we have those in Canada.
[06:56] <zyth> well, obviously not US ones, but of any sort
[06:56] <hondje> squinn: Ah, I was about to say ;-)
[06:56] <nalioth> vinux: in syaptic is a "mark for complete removal" selection
[06:56] <Micksa> okay, so my xkb settings aren't loading. what should I be looking for?
[06:56] <nalioth> vinux: when you clik on pkgs
[06:56] <vinux> nalioth, ok cool thanks
[06:56] <iamnow> hi
[06:57] <Micksa> (breezy)
[06:57] <iamnow> how do i record using a bttvcard?
[06:57] <siimo> Micksa, i heard someone say X is borked in breezy
[06:57] <Micksa> can't be that borked
[06:57] <squinn> hondje, are you in like..Miami then?
[06:58] <hondje> squinn: Pueblo, Colorado
[06:58] <nalioth> Micksa: install it on a spare system (it'll be down mostly for a while)
[06:58] <squinn> Oh, I see.
[06:58] <Micksa> this happened to me before, the solution was to symlink xkbcomp to the location where gnome was expecting to find it. wherever that was.
[06:58] <Micksa> nalioth: breezy will be down?
[06:58] <hondje> squinn: They've been going apeshit arresting people in this town for the last year or so, it's getting old
[06:58] <nalioth> squinn: there are illegales in more places you can imagine in the US
[06:58] <nalioth> Micksa: /topic
[06:58] <nalioth> !breezy
[06:58] <ubotu> Breezy is due for release in October 2005  If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it (X is broken, and other important packages could be too)
[06:58] <Micksa> oopth
[06:59] <Micksa> well I'm just too hardcore then :)
[06:59] <Micksa> shit.
[06:59] <hondje> nalioth: Pueblo is the only real city (100k people) in southern colorado, surrounded by farms, etc
[06:59] <caonex> anybody using xsane?
[06:59] <hondje> Plus it's rather hispanic in makeup, I speak spanish daily, so the INS loves to come around :)
[06:59] <Hajuu> hey
[06:59] <hondje> easy way to meet quotas I guess :)
[07:00] <zyth> I can't stand the sound of spoken spanish.  It's some weird personal idiosyncracy.  Of course, the Spanish population of this part of canada is nil, so whatever, but it's just odd.
[07:00] <zyth> makes my hair stand on end.
[07:00] <Hajuu> /dev/hdb1	/mnt/storage	ext3	defaults	0	0 --- I have this fstab entry... But it doesnt mount on startup... any ideas why? cfdisk just says that the "type" is "linux" so I just took a guess that it was ext3...
[07:01] <nalioth> zyth: yes, i'm sure its some weird variant spoken up there
[07:01] <hondje> Hajuu: I think you need auto w/ the defaults
[07:01] <bl4cktone> MMMmmm chocolate chip cookies
[07:01] <zyth> Hajuu, won't mount w/o auto
[07:01] <bl4cktone> Cheese Cake
[07:01] <Hajuu> Auto type?
[07:01] <zyth> well, not automatically :)
[07:01] <Hajuu> Where do I put auto?
[07:01] <bl4cktone> I want some Rocky Road Ice cream
[07:02] <zyth> /dev/hdd         /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 ro,user,auto  0 0
[07:02] <zyth> is an example
[07:02] <nalioth> Hajuu: make it say "blah blah defaults,auto blah blah
[07:03] <ninwa> blah blah.
[07:03] <vinux> hmm I'm installing nessus from synaptic and it says it's configuring and it could take awhile. And boy is it taking awhile
[07:03] <Hajuu> /dev/hdb1       /mnt/storage	  auto    defaults        0	    0 -- Like that?
[07:04] <zyth> I think you need commas between auto and defaults but yes
[07:04] <nalioth> Hajuu: there must be a comma and no spaces between defaults and auto
[07:04] <hondje> Hajuu: you want options all together w/ only a comma, like auto,defaults
[07:04] <Hajuu> Auto and defaults are meant to be two seperate things...
[07:04] <Hajuu> If I make them one, I dont have enough paramaters
[07:04] <Hajuu> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[07:04] <Hajuu> /dev/hdb1       /mnt/storage	  auto    defaults        0	    0
[07:04] <zyth> uh
[07:04] <zyth> yes
[07:04] <hondje> Hajuu: seriously, that's how it works... auto,noexec,rw,users ,etc
[07:05] <zyth> what fs type?
[07:05] <zyth> ext3?
[07:05] <likkashot> what good rar app around
[07:05] <Hajuu> Like I said, cfdisk just says "linux" but I assume ext3
[07:05] <zyth> /dev/hdb1       /mnt/storage   ext3   auto,defaults        0     0
[07:05] <ninwa> likkashot: unrar does it
[07:05] <nalioth> likkashot: bzip2
[07:05] <likkashot> cool thanks
[07:05] <zyth> you have to specify FS type
[07:06] <vinux> ok guys I just needed to hit terminal button in synaptic and awnser a few question now it's configured
[07:06] <Hajuu> hmm?
[07:06] <simondood> heyum
[07:06] <rob_> i am trying to install gnucash-1.8.11 and cant
[07:07] <simondood> hi
[07:07] <rob_> hi
[07:07] <nalioth> rob_: how are you trying and what is the problem?
[07:07] <Hajuu> zyth:  What do you mean?
[07:07] <zyth> Hajuu, use this line: /dev/hdb1       /mnt/storage   ext3   auto,defaults        0     0
[07:07] <Hajuu> thats what ive got
[07:07] <zyth> rob_, did you use Synaptic to install it?
[07:07] <Hajuu> but how can I check what type the partition is?
[07:07] <hondje> Hajuu: okay, once that's in run 'mount -a'
[07:08] <hondje> Hajuu: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[07:08] <hondje> or hdb, etc
[07:08] <rob_> tried apt-get and not found, then tried to download from server and system could not recognize
[07:08] <nalioth> rob download from what server?
[07:08] <nalioth> rob_: have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[07:09] <Hajuu> That doesnt tell me, hondje.. Just displays the usage information.
[07:09] <Hajuu> oh my bad
[07:09] <rob_> Synaptic did not have that version
[07:09] <Hajuu>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[07:09] <Hajuu> /dev/hdb1               1       19846    10002383+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[07:09] <Hajuu> So.. what type does that make it?
[07:09] <hyapadi> how to turn off the dma in cdrom?
[07:09] <hondje> swap
[07:10] <zyth> that makes it your swap partition, I think.
[07:10] <hondje> hyapadi: sudo hdparm -d0 /dev/cdrom
[07:10] <nalioth> rob_: so you have universe and mulitivers?
[07:10] <rob_> cnu cash
[07:10] <zyth> so that's not the drive you want mounted :)
[07:10] <dr_willis> why would ya want to turn it off? :P
[07:10] <hyapadi> hondje, thx
[07:10] <rob_> yes enabled
[07:10] <DanielC> Help. When I try to remove mozila-firefox-gnome-support Synaptic says that it must remove ubuntu-desktop. That can't be right.
[07:10] <Hajuu> zyth:  It is.. because ive been mounting it using mount up till now.. Just trying to automate it.
[07:10] <rob_> yes
[07:10] <Micksa> there, fixed :)
[07:10] <Micksa> I AM INVINCIBLE
[07:10] <hondje> DanielC: that's okay dude
[07:11] <hondje> DanielC: that's just a meta package, no biggie
[07:11] <DanielC> hondje: it is?
[07:11] <nalioth> rob_: and the version on the repos is too old?
[07:11] <zyth> Hajuu, what have you been mounting, /dev/hdb1 ?
[07:11] <Hajuu> yep.
[07:11] <rob_> yes
[07:11] <DanielC> hondje: phew! thanks.
[07:11] <ubotu> ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT has landed!
[07:11] <hondje> DanielC: yeah, it exists so you can do 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' and get all the pkgs, but removing it doesn't do the reverse
[07:11] <zyth> Hajuu, and it's FS type 82... er...
[07:11] <nalioth> rob_: so waht happens when you d/l from the gnucash homepage?
[07:11] <hondje> 82 is swap
[07:11] <zyth> that's Linux swap.  I dunno.  Weird.
[07:11] <Hajuu> thats what it says.
[07:11] <Hajuu> Well im storing stuff on it.
[07:11] <hondje> fdisk don't lie
[07:11] <Hajuu> eh.
[07:12] <Hajuu> If its working..
[07:12] <Hajuu> then im happy.
[07:12] <hondje> hrm, I'd not store and fix that first, myself
[07:12] <hondje> but your data, your call ;-)
[07:12] <Hajuu> Its been working fine for weeks.
[07:12] <rob_> it downloads and extracts but it cannot execute
[07:12] <lancer285> can someone help me w/ my sound problem?
[07:12] <Hajuu> BUT! That doesnt help. What should I put type as in my fstab?
[07:13] <nalioth> rob_: what d/l and extracts?
[07:13] <zyth> well, see, if it's swap, you'd put swap, but then it'll mount it as swap... so I couldn't tell you
[07:13] <lancer285> Cedega won't reconize my sound system cause its esd and not Alsa or OSS
[07:13] <hondje> yeah, zyth speaks truth
[07:13] <shray> hi
[07:13] <hondje> I'd really fix that soon
[07:13] <Hajuu> lancer285:  run "killall esd" before you run cedega
[07:13] <Hajuu> That should get your sound going.
[07:13] <shray> how cna I install reiser4 on my ubuntu ?
[07:13] <lancer285> okay
[07:13] <rob_> the cnucash-1.8.11
[07:13] <microhaxo> wtf
[07:14] <microhaxo> CEDEGA IS PURE bs
[07:14] <microhaxo> wont even run CSS
[07:14] <Hajuu> I dont particularly care... There doesnt seem to be anything wrong with it.. It stores my data.. Doesn't ever erase it... mounts fine...
[07:14] <nalioth> rob_: do you know how to compile software?
[07:14] <Hajuu> so.
[07:14] <rob_> no
[07:14] <hondje> Hajuu: as long as it's unimportant, or you have backups, carry on
[07:14] <rob_> lol
[07:14] <Hajuu> cedega is good.
[07:14] <hondje> didn't even know you could do that, so wtf do I know :)
[07:14] <shray> hondje is wise
[07:14] <shray> dont be so humble
[07:14] <Hajuu> hondje:  heh yeah. Thats just what cfdisk created for my by default.
[07:14] <hondje> thank you shray :)
[07:15] <Hajuu> *me
[07:15] <Hajuu> can I have fstab autodetect for me?
[07:15] <Hajuu> (the type, that is)
[07:15] <hondje> Hajuu: mount does that by default if you don't specify fs
[07:15] <byronsalty> hi I have a question about mounting network drives
[07:15] <Hajuu> Nice.
[07:15] <microhaxo> Cedega sucks
[07:15] <hondje> Hajuu: I'd 'assume' automount would do the same
[07:15] <microhaxo> i sat at the damn CSS screen for over 30 min
[07:15] <microhaxo> it wont move
[07:15] <microhaxo> lol
[07:15] <microhaxo> it sucks
[07:16] <Hajuu> CSS?
[07:16] <rob_> i got it recognized by 'run application but thats all
[07:16] <Hajuu> as in HTML/CSS?
[07:16] <Micksa> is there a way to create a new (desktop-global) keyboard shortcut?
[07:16] <byronsalty> I finally have multiple limux comps and I want to have them share drives with my server
[07:16] <microhaxo> Counter STrike source
[07:16] <Micksa> like, one that runs a certain command?
[07:16] <Hajuu> Oh.
[07:16] <Hajuu> Uhm
[07:16] <Hajuu> meh
[07:16] <microhaxo> meh
[07:16] <microhaxo> thats bs
[07:16] <hondje> byronsalty: I use NFS
[07:16] <squinn> yeah
[07:16] <squinn> i thought he meant cascading style sheets
[07:16] <byronsalty> everything I see from google talks about windows and samba...
[07:16] <hondje> byronsalty: Easy to set up, easy to secure, fast and stable, etc
[07:16] <hondje> NFS through ssh tunnel makes hondje a happy puppy
[07:17] <byronsalty> ok I check that out when by box comes back up
[07:17] <squinn> i always see counterstrike source as cs:s
[07:17] <hondje> cs:s and hl2 run randomly with cedega
[07:18] <hondje> Either they'll run perfectly, or not at all
[07:18] <zyth> WoW runs well
[07:18] <lancer285> wow run really well
[07:18] <ninwa> zyth: Last time I tried the lighting was fubar.
[07:18] <ninwa> but otherwise ran superbly
[07:18] <Hajuu> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[07:18] <Hajuu> /dev/hdb1       /mnt/storage	          auto,defaults        0	    0
[07:18] <Hajuu> I cant Leave filesystem empty.. cause then it reads "defaults" as the filesystem type...
[07:18] <zyth> ninwa, use opengl
[07:19] <hondje> Hajuu: just leave it with what was working, and seriously consider fixing it...use gparted or smoething, it's friendly and easy way to reformat that partition ext3
[07:19] <ninwa> zyth: Thats probably what it was, I'll have to put ubuntu on my big machine and give it another roll then eh? :] 
[07:19] <Hajuu> hondje:  The thing is that it wasnt working.. cause I hadnt made an fstab entry for it yet.
[07:19] <zyth> ninwa, yep :)
[07:19] <Hajuu> so..
[07:19] <hondje> I can't bear to watch this :-(
[07:19] <Hajuu> I dont want to have to mount it every restart.
[07:20] <Hajuu> lol
[07:20] <hondje> I'm serious, it gives me major creepies
[07:20] <hondje> but I also make daily backups and stuff
[07:20] <Hajuu> can I convert its type without formatting?
[07:20] <Hajuu> cause I cant backup
[07:20] <Hajuu> no free space
[07:20] <hondje> Hajuu: hrm
[07:21] <hondje> Hajuu: this is such a crazy topic, I'll ask a smart guy
[07:21] <Hajuu> I mean its expendable coz its all on cd.. but thats a bit of a pain in the ass.
[07:21] <Hajuu> hehe ok
[07:21] <Hajuu> what type should I change it to? cant see ext3 in the list in cfdisk
[07:22] <Amaranth> Hajuu: You probably need to scroll down.
[07:22] <kikkoman> where is a good place to get mplayer?
[07:22] <ubotu> ROOOOOOOT has landed!
[07:22] <shray> hi
[07:22] <shray> i r root
[07:22] <tchmnky> kikkoman, www.mplayerhq.hu :)
[07:22] <shray> whats up homeslice
[07:22] <tchmnky> There or apt-get. ;)
[07:22] <Micksa> the keyboard shortcuts control panel is in desperate need of a "revert" button
[07:22] <shray> breathe stretch shake let it go
[07:23] <Hajuu> Amaranth:  Nah. There is no scrolling.. Just one screen.
[07:23] <hondje> Micksa: good call
[07:23] <shray> mah homebuntoos
[07:23] <kikkoman> i tried to do apt-get but it says it can't find it =/
[07:23] <shray> whats going on
[07:23] <shray> i have some advice for yalls
[07:23] <hondje> Hajuu: I'm thinking there's no way to do that, man
[07:23] <Hajuu> I can I belive
[07:23] <shray> fight the man!
[07:23] <shray> man = BSD
[07:23] <Hajuu> I just need to know the code
[07:23] <Hajuu> (id)
[07:23] <hondje> But you'd have to ask Hans Reiser or something to get a real answer, thats' just too crazy ;)
[07:24] <Hajuu> look up the id for ext3 for me
[07:24] <dave> hi.  i juxg installed hoary.  I have a prob with 2.6 kernel and my mouse going crazy.   Have searched maillists to no avail.  Anyone else know of this issue?
[07:24] <shray> 81
[07:24] <Hajuu> in your fdisk or whatever
[07:24] <shray> 82
[07:24] <shray> 83
[07:24] <Hajuu> 81?
[07:24] <shray> 81
[07:24] <shray> =)
[07:24] <Hajuu> right.. this lists that as minix / old linux
[07:24] <shray> oh thats nub
[07:24] <shray> try 82
[07:24] <Hajuu> 82 is swap ;)
[07:24] <shray> 83
[07:24] <Hajuu> which is what im using.
[07:24] <stjepan> hello
[07:24] <Hajuu> there is no 83
[07:24] <shray> you need to upgrade to gentoo then
[07:25] <shray> your system is deprecated
[07:25] <stjepan> How can I run ede(equinox desktop environment)?
[07:25] <Hajuu> ...
[07:25] <Hajuu> your an idiot.
[07:25] <shray> you mean "you're" ?
[07:25] <vHintswen> don't call me a idiot
[07:25] <Hajuu> Yes.
[07:25] <vHintswen> oh not me...
[07:25] <Hajuu> vHintswen:  Not you.
[07:25] <stjepan> I should type startede in terminal
[07:25] <Hajuu> heh
[07:25] <stjepan> so
[07:25] <shray> [o,0] 
[07:25] <vHintswen> i just assumed it was cause i am...
[07:25] <stjepan> there is an error: another wm is running
[07:25] <Hajuu> haha
[07:25] <vladuz976> hey, how come ubuntu has only one installation cd?
[07:25] <stjepan> I do not know how to run it
[07:25] <vladuz976> why so small?
[07:26] <stjepan> please help
[07:26] <crimsun> valaxer: because it was designed to fit on one.
[07:26] <shray> vladuz976: its leet like tat
[07:26] <m> anyone know the name of the program that is installed w/gnome that allows you to RDP to a windows comp?
[07:26] <tchmnky> vlc?
[07:26] <tchmnky> vNC. I mean
[07:26] <vladuz976> shray,  fedora has 4?
[07:26] <vladuz976> that is a huge difference
[07:26] <shray> vladuz976: the bigger the better
[07:26] <_pax> less is more.
[07:27] <m> no.... its like gnome desktop remote or somethin
[07:27] <fazer> Has anyone here installed mwavem in Ubuntu?
[07:27] <Hajuu> Uhm
[07:27] <Hajuu> This is getting crazy
[07:28] <Hajuu> Now fdisk says that my disk doesnt contain a valid partition table...
[07:28] <Hajuu> BUT
[07:28] <vladuz976> shray, no seriously? what is the difference?
[07:28] <Hajuu> I can access all my stuff and mount it no worries.
[07:28] <Hajuu> :/
[07:28] <stjepan> nobady?
[07:28] <stjepan> nobody?
[07:29] <m> Terminal Service Client, is the name but does anyone know what package its in?
[07:29] <vinux> stjepan, are you already running a wm?
[07:30] <Micksa> stjepan: it would appear that nobody here knows about this "ede" you speak of.
[07:30] <nalioth> ok guys/gals/trolls can anyone tell me where i can buy one of these? http://www.macpower.com.tw/products/hdd3/m9/m9dx
[07:30] <DanielC> Help. None of my Firefox dialogs work. They all give an error of the form "XML Parsing error ... chrome://browser/content/pref/pref.xul ... root.localname = prefElements[i] .localName;"
[07:30] <DanielC> I triend uninstalling firefox, and re-installing, but it didn't help. A locate on pref.xul turns up nothing. :(
[07:30] <stjepan> vinux: yes
[07:30] <DanielC> Dang, my internet connection just had a hiccup. I hope I didn't miss any responses.
[07:30] <ninwa> DanielC: Nope.
[07:31] <vinux> stjepan, usally when I install a wm I have to logout then choose my wm at the login screen. If you are running ubuntu in xdm
[07:31] <tchmnky> DanielC, doesn't look like you ever left. :-/
[07:31] <DanielC> ok
[07:31] <stjepan> vinux: there isn't EDE at login screen :(
[07:32] <vinux> stjepan, hmmmm EDE what does that stand for?
[07:32] <Micksa> is there some way to assign shortcut keys to panel launchers that I don't know about?...
[07:33] <ninwa> Micksa: If there is, let me know.
[07:33] <vinux> stjepan, oh ok I just found it
[07:33] <Micksa> heh
[07:33] <Micksa> crap
[07:33] <hondje> That's it, I'm canning firefox
[07:33] <ninwa> hondje: What's wrong with it?
[07:33] <hondje> slow piece of buggy excrement
[07:33] <vinux> stjepan, hmmm I would google that question
[07:33] <Micksa> mozilla is much better!!!!
[07:33] <vinux> stjepan, put error msg in google search window
[07:34] <ninwa> hondje: I'll agree it can be slow sometimes, I've been looking for an even liter browser...
[07:34] <hondje> ninwa: I have some evil firefox thing, I get regular (and reproducable) segfaults, 2+ minute page rendering times, eats up CPU....
[07:34] <hondje> ninwa: I'm going to ephiphany, seems nice
[07:34] <hondje> -h
[07:34] <Micksa> "ephipany"
[07:34] <hondje> Micksa is the man on the spot ;-)
[07:34] <Micksa> heh, that was quick
[07:34] <Micksa> say what?
[07:34] <Amuro> tchmnky
[07:34] <hondje> I've spent hours trying to figure out wtf is wrong with my computer and ubuntu firefox, I give up
[07:35] <Micksa> how has it been playing up?
[07:35] <ninwa> I think you mean epiphany, I'll have to give it a try too.
[07:35] <hondje> ninwa: that's the one
[07:36] <ninwa> Firefox works great for me on Windows... not so much on Linux for some reason.
[07:36] <stjepan> oh
[07:36] <hondje> Maybe I'll roll up my own firefox pkg, see if that works..nothing else does
[07:36] <dr_willis> Hmm.. cant say that ive had any problems with firefox at all. :O
[07:36] <hondje> dr_willis: You make me jealous :P
[07:36] <stjepan> how can I do startx and after that do startede
[07:36] <onecoldpenguin> Hi.  Anyone know of a fix for erratic mouse with 2.6 kernel?  Can't find any fixes in web maillists
[07:36] <stjepan> ?
[07:36] <dr_willis> hondje,  thers a firefox.autopackage  :P could try it.
[07:37] <nalioth> Firefox is bloated, swollen, mem.....
[07:37] <hondje> Lets say I click on a slashdot topic, a big one like 1000 comments....firefox will lose everything but the frame, run up 100% cpu and stay like that for 2 or 3 minutes, on modern hardware
[07:37] <ninwa> -ory leaked...
[07:37] <hondje> and don't even TRY opening 200 tabs
[07:37] <ninwa> Because you know, we all open 200 tabs regularly.
[07:37] <vinux> hehehe
[07:38] <hondje> I do :(
[07:38] <nalioth> my firefox OPENS with 200 tabs... don't all of you start your browsing session with 200 sites?
[07:38] <ninwa> Hehe
[07:38] <hondje> If you can't browse pron, then what's your computer for?
[07:38] <Micksa> 200 tabs?
[07:38] <ninwa> Mine opens to google.com/ig
[07:38] <Micksa> if you want to open 200 web pages at once you're asking for it ;)
[07:38] <Micksa> one big page, on the other hand, shouldn't be a problem.
[07:39] <Micksa> honje: got a url for us to try? one that crashes your firefox?
[07:39] <tchmnky> ninwa, /ig ?
[07:39] <hondje> well, crashes are different, but I can grab one for you Micksa
[07:39] <ninwa> tchmnky: Yep, check it out :)
[07:39] <vladuz976> can anybody tell me where i can learn how to use apt-get
[07:39] <Micksa> I mean, like how you described :)
[07:39] <ninwa> you type apt-get install [file] 
[07:39] <hondje> http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/16/1618241&tid=179&tid=3
[07:40] <ninwa> or apt-get remove [file] 
[07:40] <nalioth> hondje: btw, page 10 didnt crash my ggv
[07:40] <ninwa> or rather, package
[07:40] <ninwa> tada!
[07:40] <Micksa> with the 1000 comment slashdot page
[07:40] <hondje> nalioth: hrm, thanks man :-)
[07:40] <tchmnky> ninwa, OH. Sorry. I'm lame this morning.Yeah. Personalised Google is pretty cool. :)
[07:40] <ninwa> Easy fix to that
[07:40] <Micksa> hondje: are you saying the page *eventually* loads?
[07:40] <ninwa> don't browse at -1
[07:40] <vladuz976> what if i don't know the exact package name?
[07:40] <ninwa> tchmnky: :)
[07:40] <Micksa> or sits there forever?
[07:40] <hondje> Micksa: yes, after a long time
[07:40] <ninwa> vladuz976: check out apt-get --help
[07:40] <Micksa> can't grab the url till it's loaded? :)
[07:41] <hondje> right click, save the url :)
[07:41] <hondje> er, copy
[07:41] <nalioth> vladuz976: use synaptic
[07:41] <Micksa> also, what sane reason would you have to open 200 tabs at once? :)
[07:41] <ninwa> but yes, I suggest using synaptic
[07:41] <hondje> Micksa: rss, 'open in tabs
[07:41] <vladuz976> what is synaptiv
[07:41] <vladuz976> synaptic
[07:42] <vinux> I'm hungry
[07:42] <ninwa> It's a gui package manager, its in System->Administration
[07:42] <Micksa> honjde: but what are you going to do with those 200 tabs when you've loaded them? :)
[07:42] <hondje> Micksa: http://www.hondje.net/~hondje/Screenshot-1.png
[07:42] <hondje> That's on the second desktop, but xchat and the terminal are on the first desktop...
[07:42] <vladuz976> ninwa, how is it different from apt-get?
[07:43] <vladuz976> i always here how good apt-get is
[07:43] <hondje> and note the CPU meter maxed out :-/ all firefox does is sit in a frame, and I've done reinstalls and the like out the wazoo
[07:43] <ninwa> vladuz976: It uses apt-get
[07:43] <ninwa> but you can search for packages
[07:43] <ninwa> and browse them in a gui
[07:43] <Micksa> hondje: you should have said "say cheese"
[07:43] <nalioth> vladuz976: you get all the apt-get goodness, with a nice gui frontend with synaptic
[07:43] <bl4cktone> guys, I was installing things just fine but I ran into a snag
[07:43] <vladuz976> cool
[07:43] <hondje> Micksa: hehe
[07:43] <ninwa> hondje: We should be friends, I have a .net too! ninwa.net ~ and hey I'm in your screenshot! (amused easily at wee night hours)
[07:44] <hondje> Micksa: to make matters worse, I've found a few things that everytime I do, I segfault...but the cores don't tell me anything useful :)
[07:44] <Micksa> haha
[07:44] <Micksa> RBAK eh
[07:44] <bl4cktone> apt-get  is telling me I have unmet dependencies and it seems to be stopping me from installing anything else
[07:44] <hondje> like, trying to import bookmarks...BAM!
[07:44] <hondje> ninwa: hehe
[07:44] <nalioth> bl4cktone: "sudo apt-get -f install"
[07:44] <hondje> Micksa: heh, gotta see where the money is disappearing to ;-)
[07:44] <nalioth> bl4cktone: are you using backports?
[07:44] <Micksa> hondje: is this the standard ubuntu firefox you're using?
[07:44] <xed> Hey!
[07:44] <hondje> Micksa: yep, not backports or from deb-src or anything
[07:45] <Micksa> hoaru?
[07:45] <hondje> yes
[07:45] <Micksa> hoary?
[07:45] <Micksa> okay, well I'm not using hoary myself but I'll have a play and see what happens :)
[07:45] <hondje> I've install --reinstall mozilla-firefox, remove --purge and then reinstall, etc
[07:45] <Micksa> feel free to submit a bug report.
[07:45] <xed> I just downloaded Ubuntu 5.04, burned it...and whatnot.. and so I put it into the PC, and it goes to boot up.. it says "Boot failed; press a key to retry..."
[07:45] <ryan__> I'm having some difficulties dealing with getting madwifi to work, could anybody be of any help?
[07:45] <xed> And after I do that, it just restarts itself a few times..and goes back to that screen.
[07:45] <hondje> Micksa: I've dropped one, all the core I get say basically the same thing....but I'm convinced it's a local issue
[07:46] <ninwa> hodje: what theme/icon set is that? Looks sleak.
[07:46] <bl4cktone> nalioth yes I just did what you said it was reading stuff off the cd and maybe did it?
[07:46] <hondje> ninwa: amaranth
[07:46] <Micksa> sounds fun.
[07:46] <hondje> ninwa: with gartoon icons
[07:46] <Micksa> you could re-install ubuntu :)
[07:46] <xed> Who wants to help me what my issue here?
[07:46] <xed> It'll be a game..!
[07:46] <hondje> Micksa: Pardon me sir, but that's worse than rebooting!
[07:46] <Micksa> also you could try starting from a clean ~/.mozilla/firefox directory
[07:46] <vinux> hondje, very wierd I'm having no problems here with firefox. Hmmm well right now i'm using just mozilla
[07:46] <ninwa> xed: Shoot.
[07:46] <nalioth> bl4cktone: you tell us
[07:46] <hondje> vinux: No one seems to have these problems...it's all very odd :(
[07:47] <bl4cktone> nalioth I'm using the repositories on unofficial ubuntu 5.04 starter guide
[07:47] <ninwa> hondje: Do you have the latest version? (brain-dead question)
[07:47] <hondje> ninwa: latest ubuntu version, yes
[07:47] <nalioth> bl4cktone: and that is your problem
[07:47] <nalioth> bl4cktone: stick with official ubuntu repos
[07:47] <Micksa> hondje: got a url yet?
[07:47] <hondje> I'll try apt-get source -b, and then make my own deb from official firefox....but if that doesn't help, I'll just have to switch :(
[07:47] <vinux> hondje, you can try mozilla instead of firefox. I still have mplayer plugins for mozilla so I can see movies :)
[07:47] <vladuz976> niwa, there is new firefox out but synaptic doesn't show that
[07:47] <hondje> Micksa: yeah, took about 1.5 mins
[07:47] <nalioth> bl4cktone: backports and marillat can cause this problem(s)
[07:47] <Micksa> paste it
[07:48] <vladuz976> how do i update it, on the web it says to use apt-get or synaptic
[07:48] <hondje> vinux: hrm, mozilla....oddly it's faster than Mr. Lightweight Firefox these days, isn't it? :)
[07:48] <Micksa> I doubt compiling firefox yourself will help
[07:48] <thoreauputic> bl4cktone: ubuntuguide is Ok but tsome of the advice there is... erm... inaccurate
[07:48] <Micksa> it would probably be a messed up
[07:48] <vinux> hondje, well to tell you the truth it seems so
[07:48] <ninwa> vladuz976: The ubuntu repositories are always behind, this is because they want you to have stable software versus "bleeding edge" buggy software. You can easily visit www.firefox.com and download the latest build and install it, however.
[07:49] <Micksa> it would probably be a messed up ~/.mozilla dir, or a messed up library config
[07:49] <hondje> Micksa: I agree, it's some local setting I'm sure, though I did rule out it being the ko l18n stuff
[07:49] <bl4cktone> nalioth yeah things are working now,  I kinda need a guide like it  seeing as I'm a complete n00b at linux
[07:49] <ryan__> Does anyone here have any experience dealing with madwifi?
[07:49] <Micksa> has your install been through any interesting experiences?
[07:49] <ninwa> My wifi is generally happy.
[07:49] <ninwa> Not mad.
[07:49] <Micksa> e.g. did you upgrade from warty to hoary?
[07:49] <ninwa> *dun dun tsch*
[07:49] <Micksa> hondje: oi, where's the url? :)
[07:49] <ryan__> :)
[07:49] <hondje> Micksa: No, nothing like that at all....I installed hoary fresh the day it came out and got rid of Sid
[07:49] <nalioth> bl4cktone: as thoreauputic said, a lot of things on the 'guide are <cough> inaccurate
[07:50] <tchmnky> "but at least they are 'definitively inaccurate'." ;)
[07:50] <hondje> Micksa: for the one I was using for an example?
[07:50] <Micksa> yeah
[07:50] <Micksa> I wanna try it
[07:50] <nalioth> bl4cktone: i recommend you edit your sources.list and comment out the unofficial repos
[07:50] <tchmnky> And in the most severe cases of discrepancy it's always Reality taht's got it wrong. ;)
[07:50] <hondje> Micksa: http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/16/1618241&tid=179&tid=3
[07:51] <Micksa> hmm, my firefox had no problem with it.
[07:51] <hondje> Micksa: but yeah, I don't do much crazy with my desktop, I'm a stability freak
[07:51] <Micksa> about 5 seconds.
[07:52] <Micksa> do you have mozilla installed?
[07:52] <hondje> Micksa: yeah, and firefox over ssh -X from the sarge box at my feet is just as fast as it should be :(
[07:52] <Micksa> try the same url in mozilla and see what happens/.
[07:52] <hondje> Micksa: good thinking, I'll apt it up
[07:52] <Micksa> also, if you still have that page up, could you take another SS for me?
[07:53] <hondje> Micksa: when it's loaded?
[07:53] <Micksa> yeah.
[07:53] <hondje> Micksa: It renders fine
[07:53] <Micksa> I wanna double-check that I'm loading the same amount as you :)
[07:53] <xed> ninwa: I just downloaded Ubuntu 5.04, burned it...and whatnot.. and so I put it into the PC, and it goes to boot up.. it says "Boot failed; press a key to retry..."
[07:53] <bl4cktone> nalioth I"m in my sources.list right now but not sure what you mean, just change it back the way it was?
[07:53] <hondje> Micksa: ah, give me 1.5 mins for it to load ;-)
[07:53] <orangey> hey all!
[07:53] <orangey> how do I set up a network connection with ubuntu?
[07:53] <Hajuu> ok
[07:53] <Hajuu> I ended up formatting my drive
[07:54] <Hajuu> Now its id 83
[07:54] <Hajuu> what type is that?
[07:54] <hondje> 83 is ext3 iirc
[07:54] <Hajuu> well...
[07:54] <hondje> but I partition once, use for two years, certainly no expert
[07:54] <xed> ninwa: still there?
[07:54] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: it's linux native (ext2 or ext3)
[07:54] <vladuz976> niwa, if i wanna get xine and all dependecies in synaptic how do you do that?
[07:54] <thoreauputic> 82 is swap
[07:54] <quam> eh, my linux partition is ext3, but when ubuntu boots up it says it's ext2 :P
[07:55] <Hajuu> my fdisk says its id is 83... but my fstab where I say its ext3 says that it cannot find an ext3 on that device...
[07:55] <hondje> Micksa: still loading :-/
[07:55] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[07:55] <Micksa> better still
[07:55] <ninwa> xed: Yeah sorry, I'm here.
[07:55] <Amuro> i need to play movies and music from a mounted hard drive, how would i do this? because when i try to open them it wont let me
[07:55] <thoreauputic> or totem-xine if you prefer
[07:55] <Micksa> bring up the page info and tell me the size
[07:55] <vladuz976> what is the ui for?
[07:55] <hondje> Hajuu: you can go ext3 from ext2 w/out dataloss
[07:55] <ninwa> xed: Don't know what's wrong though.
[07:55] <Micksa> I get 36KB
[07:55] <Amuro> i need to play movies and music from a mounted hard drive, how would i do this? because when i try to open them it wont let me
[07:56] <Hajuu> hondje:  heh meh doesnt matter now.. all formatted...
[07:56] <hondje> Hajuu: ah :)
[07:56] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: user interface? xine-ui is the standard one, totem-xine uses a totem front end
[07:56] <Hajuu> oh I know the problem.. I havent run mkfs on it yet.
[07:56] <ninwa> vladuz976: I would suggest mplayer, but you hit search and type xine... then right click on the one you want and hit mark for installation, then hit applhy.
[07:56] <ninwa> apply*
[07:56] <ninwa> It will worry about the dependencies for you.
[07:57] <Hajuu> wtf
[07:57] <Hajuu> Something.. dodgy going on
[07:57] <ninwa> With?
[07:58] <Hajuu> ok so am I correct in assuming that once I have used fdisk to make my partition, I need to run "mkfs" on that created partition in order for it to be recognised?
[07:58] <Amuro> how do i install mplayer
[07:58] <Amuro> also need to install all codects possible
[07:58] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[07:58] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:58] <thoreauputic> Amuro: read that
[07:59] <xed> Guess I'll try another distro on that PC then..
[07:59] <Amuro> I read that
[07:59] <Amuro> 1-3
[07:59] <vladuz976> niwa, synaptic only gives me libxine1 and libxine-dev and libxinerama, does that include the ui?
[07:59] <hondje> Micksa: moz works like a pro
[07:59] <hondje> oh man that feels so good
[07:59] <hondje> bye bye firefox
[08:00] <Micksa> heh
[08:00] <hondje> welcome back, you rascally seamonkey
[08:00] <ninwa> I'm having a problem with epiphany.
[08:00] <ninwa> Complains about...
[08:00] <nalioth> ninwa: use galeon
[08:00] <ninwa> GNOME_Epiphany_Automation.server file
[08:00] <hondje> galeon is still around?
[08:00] <Micksa> hondje: what's the page size?...
[08:00] <vinux> Amuro, I use this to install all my stuff ----> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[08:01] <hondje> Micksa: 35.79 KB
[08:01] <Micksa> okay.
[08:01] <hondje> in moz, at least
[08:01] <Micksa> that really shouldn't take 2 mins
[08:01] <hondje> yeah, not on a 2.7GHz p4
[08:02] <vladuz976> hey there, i can't even mark stuff for installation it needs depeneccies? how can i resolve those
[08:02] <thoreauputic> Amuro: you need to read the whole page - for instance you might want to look at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/  for codecs etc
[08:02] <ninwa> 2.7ghz? Pfft!
[08:02] <ninwa> I'm on a 600Mhz and Ubuntu is SCREAMING
[08:02] <ninwa> :o)
[08:02] <hondje> :-)
[08:02] <ninwa> (screaming, "give me more processor power :( ") but thats not the point
[08:02] <hondje> Micksa: 51.75 KB in firefox
[08:02] <hondje> if you have enough ram, 600MHz is plenty
[08:02] <hondje> gnome loves ram
[08:02] <ninwa> Yep, 512Mb of ram
[08:03] <ninwa> its my thinkpad
[08:03] <ninwa> my main pc is 2Ghz... I really do need a new pc
[08:03] <hondje> wow
[08:04] <hondje> then again, once upon a time I had a p2 250MHz w/ 64mb running KDE
[08:04] <thoreauputic> the trick is choosing light apps
[08:04] <nalioth> vladuz976: have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[08:04] <xed> the trick is crying to your computer and begging it to have mercy
[08:04] <hondje> that was right before KDE2 came out though, so awhile ago ;-)
[08:05] <vladuz976> nalioth, where do u enable them?
[08:05] <nalioth> !Restricted
[08:05] <ubotu> well, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:05] <nalioth> vladuz976: read waht ubotu said
[08:06] <Amuro> i duno how to install mplayer
[08:06] <Amuro> liek
[08:06] <Amuro> how i compile
[08:06] <Amuro> :\
[08:06] <Amuro> i have gcc and G++ installed
[08:06] <vladuz976> yes, but in synaptic how do i add those
[08:06] <vladuz976> i heard that it is not supported
[08:06] <bob2> Amuro: why compile it? mplayer is in ubuntu already.
[08:06] <thoreauputic> Amuro: you don't - you enable multiverse and sudo apt-get install mplayer
[08:06] <nalioth> vladuz976: i don't know anything about synaptic, i use the terminal
[08:07] <Amuro> sudo apt-get install mplayer
[08:07] <Amuro> err
[08:07] <Amuro> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:07] <Amuro> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:07] <bob2> Amuro: there you go
[08:07] <vladuz976> nalioth, ok so how can i install xine with all its dependencies using apt-get?
[08:07] <bob2> Amuro: close whatever other package management program you have open
[08:07] <nalioth> Amuro: only one apt can run at a time (or you must use sudo)
[08:07] <vladuz976> sudo apt-get install xine doesn't work
[08:08] <bob2> vladuz976: gxine
[08:08] <nalioth> vladuz976: you need universe and multiverse for some codecs
[08:08] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: xine-ui
[08:08] <vladuz976> also doesn't work
[08:08] <thoreauputic> or gxine or totem-xine
[08:08] <vladuz976> says, can't find package
[08:08] <thoreauputic> !repositories
[08:08] <ubotu> methinks repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:08] <vladuz976> how do i get universe
[08:08] <thoreauputic> vladuz976: read ubotu's URL
[08:08] <nalioth> vladuz976: what ubotu said
[08:08] <Amuro> Reading package lists... Done
[08:08] <Amuro> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:08] <Amuro> E: Couldn't find package 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6
[08:09] <Amuro> :\
[08:09] <hondje> bah, between firefox and evolution, I'm getting two kinds of sad....oh well, beats running the alternatives
[08:09] <thoreauputic> Amuro: <cough> please read above
[08:09] <Amuro> I DID THAT
[08:09] <Amuro> alrdy
[08:09] <Amuro> it wont let me install mplayer thru syn
[08:09] <Amuro> cuz it says somthing
[08:09] <bob2> Amuro: whatever command you ran was wrong
[08:09] <Amuro> crappy
[08:09] <thoreauputic> Amuro: did you update / reload
[08:09] <nalioth> Amuro: are you sure?
[08:09] <Amuro> yessss
[08:10] <Amuro> i get this error thru syn
[08:10] <Amuro> mplayer-386:
[08:10] <Amuro>  Depends: libsvga1  but it is not installable or
[08:10] <Amuro>  	svgalib-dummyg1  but it is not installable
[08:10] <thoreauputic> Amuro: do you have 3rd perty sources like backports or marillat?
[08:10] <thoreauputic> *party
[08:11] <kikkoman> hi, im getting a message saying that i can't upgrade mozzilla. it's also saying its being held back
[08:11] <nalioth> thoreauputic: perty is a word in Texas
[08:11] <bob2> kikkoman: when doing what?
[08:11] <Amuro> backports?
[08:11] <Amuro> marillat
[08:11] <Amuro> i duno
[08:11] <Amuro> i did what it said
[08:11] <bob2> Amuro: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[08:11] <Amuro> from seciton 1-3
[08:11] <thoreauputic> Amuro: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in #flood, please
[08:11] <kikkoman> ubuntu update manager its saying "it is not possible to upgrade all packages"
[08:12] <thoreauputic> bob2: ;)
[08:12] <bob2> kikkoman: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[08:12] <xed> how do I define a root file system when installing?
[08:12] <bob2> xed: the partman stage does that
[08:12] <xed> Yeah, I'm there right now
[08:12] <xed> I have 3 partitions, which I created earlier using system rescue disc.
[08:12] <Amuro> xed
[08:12] <bob2> xed: select a partition, mark it as the root partition
[08:13] <bob2> Amuro: edit that file and get rid of the "backports" line
[08:13] <Amuro> i cant edit it
[08:13] <Amuro> its read only
[08:13] <bob2> Amuro: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:13] <bob2> (in a terminal)
[08:13] <xed> bob2: how do I mark it as a root partition?
[08:13] <bob2> xed: select it.
[08:14] <xed> and then?
[08:14] <Amuro> bob2,
[08:14] <bob2> and then mark it as the root partition
[08:14] <Amuro> i dont see no backports line
[08:14] <bob2> 16:12:50          Amuro |  deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[08:14] <bob2> Amuro: that one
[08:14] <Amuro> k
[08:14] <Amuro> done
[08:15] <xed> I'm not installing the latest version of Ubuntu, bob2.
[08:15] <bob2> xed: that's awesome, but doesn't matter
[08:15] <xed> By "Select" you mean press enter when its highlighted
[08:15] <bob2> yes
[08:15] <xed> then it tells me to "Format the partiton using ..." and it gives me like 3 or 4 options
[08:15] <bob2> well, keep looking, the option is there
[08:15] <xed> Something about use it as a physical volume for LVM.. and something about RAID...
[08:15] <xed> ...
[08:16] <bob2> er, youy haven't put a filesystem on them yet?
[08:16] <bob2> Amuro: run 'sudo apt-get update'
[08:16] <Amuro> did that
[08:16] <Amuro> bob2,
[08:16] <thoreauputic> Amuro: your universe lines look wrong as well, some things are commented out others not: I would personally run " sudo apt-setup " and re-edit the file
[08:16] <bob2> I wish you'd stop putting my name on an empty line
[08:17] <arsch> hi
[08:17] <xed> okay okay okay
[08:17] <xed> I got it..
[08:17] <xed> noatil or something..
[08:17] <kikkoman> bob i posted my source list on #flood
[08:17] <bob2> kikkoman: get rid of the backports lines
[08:17] <bob2> xed: that only matters for reiser
[08:18] <xed> thats the one I'm using.
[08:18] <arsch> i tried to get the gnome-power-manager to wrok, but he tells me, that  libdbus-glib-1.so.1 is missing
[08:18] <xed> I was told it was faster for desktops/servers.
[08:18] <bob2> ouch
[08:18] <xed> bad idea?
[08:18] <kikkoman> ok
[08:18] <Whistler> hi evetybody
[08:18] <bob2> in some cases
[08:18] <xed> how come bob2?
[08:18] <Whistler> *everybody
[08:18] <bob2> how come what?
[08:18] <xed> why.. would it be a bad idea in some cases?
[08:18] <vinux> Whistler, hello :)
[08:18] <Amuro> thoreauputic, pm?
[08:18] <bob2> because when it screws up, it tends to screw up badly
[08:18] <xed> oh
[08:19] <xed> poooop
[08:19] <Whistler> any recommendations for php editor for ubuntu?
[08:19] <arsch>  libdbus-glib-1.so.1 ?
[08:19] <bob2> arsch: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:19] <j-rock> Whistler: vim
[08:19] <thoreauputic> Amuro: keep it in channel - more people can learn and help
[08:19] <Amuro> okkk
[08:19] <vinux> Whistler, what's a php? :)
[08:19] <Amuro> ran that thing
[08:19] <Amuro> the apt-setup thing
[08:19] <thoreauputic> Amuro: choose http
[08:19] <Amuro> k
[08:20] <Amuro> done
[08:20] <Amuro> now what
[08:20] <Amuro> after its done
[08:20] <arsch> i cant thind it
[08:20] <arsch> find
[08:20] <Whistler> vinux its a hyper text procesor
[08:20] <Whistler> or smt like that
[08:20] <bob2> arsch: then it's not in ubuntu
[08:20] <Whistler> =] 
[08:20] <thoreauputic> Amuro: now edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment lines beginning with "deb"
[08:20] <arsch> its not an package
[08:20] <vinux> Whistler, cool
[08:20] <bob2> arsch: yes, I know, it's a file
[08:20] <thoreauputic> Amuro: sudo gedit as before
[08:21] <arsch> its part of the dbus-glib package, but i already got this installed
[08:21] <Amuro> so i take away the #
[08:21] <Amuro> before the deb lines
[08:21] <Amuro> ?
[08:21] <thoreauputic> Amuro: right
[08:21] <arsch> right
[08:21] <arsch> what can i do?
[08:22] <bob2> wait for it to be packaged
[08:22] <bob2> it's not dbus-glib at all
[08:22] <thoreauputic> Amuro: if you want multiverse (you do) add the word " multiverse" after "universe"
[08:22] <thoreauputic> Amuro: on *each* universe line
[08:22] <Amuro> so on all lines
[08:22] <arsch> man, i need that thing, common, its linux, it cant be that hard
[08:22] <Amuro> k
[08:22] <thoreauputic> no
[08:22] <ninwa> goodnight #ubuntu
[08:23] <xed> good night ninwa-zzz
[08:23] <thoreauputic> Amuro: only on the universe lines
[08:23] <bob2> arsch: it's in breezy
[08:23] <arsch> ah, can i install only that package from breezy?
[08:23] <Amuro> k
[08:23] <Amuro> done
[08:23] <vladuz976> does anybody know how to change the screenresolution?
[08:23] <arsch> that wouldnt break my system, wouldnt it?
[08:23] <thoreauputic> Amuro: tell us when you've done that and saved the file
[08:23] <Amuro> now ill apt-get update
[08:24] <Amuro> saved
[08:24] <Amuro> done
[08:24] <Amuro> now what
[08:24] <Amuro> lol
[08:24] <bob2> arsch: no
[08:24] <vladuz976> it only gives me 1024X786
[08:24] <thoreauputic> Amuro: OK - can you paste the new file in #flood please ?
[08:24] <bob2> arsch: yes, it would break it in the snes that you'd get breezy's libc
[08:24] <arsch> damn
[08:25] <arsch> any chance, to get the software workin without it?
[08:26] <bob2> no
[08:26] <bob2> or ask the author
[08:26] <arsch> k
[08:26] <arsch> ok, maybe ill do so
[08:26] <Amuro> now what thoreauputic
[08:26] <thoreauputic> Amuro: run sudo apt-get update and see if there are any errors
[08:26] <stjepan> I have edited default-window-manager
[08:27] <stjepan> I typed startede
[08:27] <stjepan> and now ede doesn't start
[08:27] <stjepan> I go in recovery mode
[08:27] <stjepan> how do I edit file in recovery mode?
[08:27] <Amuro> thoreauputic, flood chan
[08:28] <thoreauputic> Amuro: why does your list contain both gb and ca entries??
[08:28] <Amuro> no idea
[08:28] <stjepan> oh, now I can't work with Ubuntu
[08:28] <stjepan> :(
[08:28] <stjepan> help me, please
[08:28] <thoreauputic> Amuro: I don't think you have a default list
[08:28] <Amuro> no idea
[08:28] <Amuro> lool
[08:28] <thoreauputic> Amuro: hmm
[08:28] <Amuro> i did what u said
[08:28] <Amuro> i selected canada
[08:28] <Amuro> in the http list
[08:28] <Amuro> hit ok
[08:28] <Amuro> and this
[08:28] <Amuro> so ya
[08:29] <Amuro> duno wth is wrong
[08:29] <Amuro> lol
[08:29] <stjepan> how can I edit file in bash?
[08:29] <thoreauputic> Amuro: odd
[08:29] <arsch> stjepan: with nano
[08:29] <arsch> nano "file"
[08:29] <Amuro> should i edit the list and delete any gb entries?
[08:30] <thoreauputic> Amuro: try commenting out the gb entries ( the ones that have gb.archive in the line
[08:30] <Amuro> k
[08:30] <thoreauputic> yep
[08:31] <Whistler> how dp i run vim?
[08:31] <Whistler> how do i run vim?
[08:31] <thoreauputic> Whistler: type vim in a terminal>
[08:31] <Amuro> k
[08:31] <Amuro> done
[08:31] <Amuro> apt-get updateing now
[08:31] <thoreauputic> Amuro: sudo apt-get update
[08:31] <thoreauputic> k
[08:32] <Amuro> flood chan again
[08:32] <Whistler> thoreauputic thx
[08:32] <hondje> anyone here wise in the ways of evolution?
[08:32] <stjepan> arsch: tnx very much
[08:32] <stjepan> Now I'll try that
[08:33] <thoreauputic> Amuro: I don't know wth you did, but your sources are definitely weird
[08:33] <byronsalty> hondje - thanks nfs worked
[08:33] <hondje> byronsalty: awesome
[08:33] <Amuro> thoreauputic, make ur sources as canada or w.e
[08:33] <Amuro> and send me file
[08:33] <thoreauputic> Amuro: I wouldn't normally do this, but the best thing might be for me to send you my list
[08:33] <Amuro> so i can copy and paste it
[08:33] <Amuro> thats what i said lol
[08:33] <Amuro> set it for CA
[08:33] <Amuro> canada
[08:33] <thoreauputic> Amuro: you'll have to wait a few minutes
[08:33] <thoreauputic> OK?
[08:34] <Amuro> k
[08:34] <Amuro> no worry
[08:34] <Amuro> i got time
[08:34] <trigger15> hey....wazzup over there
[08:34] <trigger15> help me....how to make auto mount?
[08:35] <hondje> trigger15: use the option 'auto' in /etc/fstab
[08:35] <Razor-X> hondje: hey
[08:35] <hondje> Hi Razor-X, how's it going?
[08:36] <trigger15> do ubuntu kernel support ntfs mounting...sepecially with write mode?
[08:36] <bob2> trigger15: yes, no
[08:36] <hondje> trigger15: No
[08:36] <nalioth_zZzZzZzZ> trigger15: only if you don't want your NTFS
[08:37] <hondje> er, what bob2 said
[08:37] <bob2> no one supports mounting it writable without captive-ntfs
[08:37] <bob2> and shipping that is pretty dodge
[08:37] <Razor-X> hondje: configuring eterm as we speak ;)
[08:37] <hondje> bob2: legal in .us if you have a copy of windows, right?
[08:37] <hondje> s/copy/unused copy/
[08:37] <hondje> Razor-X: why stop there, install all of e ;-)
[08:37] <bob2> oh, dodge in the sense of slapping windows binaries into your kernel :)
[08:37] <hondje> ah, taintage
[08:38] <Razor-X> hondje: ahh, this box doesen't have the hdd space, nor the time if I want to remove KDE
[08:38] <Razor-X> plus, I like KDE quite a bit
[08:38] <hondje> Razor-X: a shame :) Don't worry, someday e17 will go final, and you can apt it in and enjoy life :)
[08:38] <hondje> KDE is nice and friendly, but Brother Rasterman is a prophet of design
[08:38] <Razor-X> hondje: yeah, my dad's really my Linux limiting factor
[08:39] <hondje> Razor-X: bummer :) The missus is mine, no more computers allowed :(
[08:39] <Razor-X> but, in the meantime, i'll have my Eterm all fixed up
[08:39] <trigger15> oh...yeah..dats right...i like kde 2
[08:39] <Amuro> thoreauputic,
[08:39] <Amuro> thoreauputic, u there?
[08:39] <Razor-X> hondje: heh, that's already a rule, my mom doesen't like computers much
[08:39] <Razor-X> nor do we upgrade
[08:39] <hondje> Razor-X: hehe
[08:39] <Razor-X> actually, this week was a fun week
[08:39] <thoreauputic> yeah, Amuro I'm having other problems here....
[08:40] <Amuro> lol
[08:40] <Amuro> k
[08:40] <thoreauputic> Amuro: please wit
[08:40] <hondje> Mine loves computers, she's also been windows free for about 4 years, she just doesn't like the space they take
[08:40] <Amuro> just keep me updated in pm
[08:40] <Razor-X> so, I really have the rest of today (30 minutes) and tomorrow, and that's it
[08:40] <Amuro> cuz im going to diff network for bit
[08:40] <thoreauputic> *wait
[08:40] <Razor-X> back to the books (Algebra II in real 'school' and Calculus at home)
[08:40] <hondje> ah, that's fun stuff Razor-X
[08:40] <trigger15> ouch....
[08:40] <Razor-X> the schools here refuse to accept my mastery of a subject because I don't have the damned prerequisites
[08:40] <hondje> only thing more fun than math is physics ;-)
[08:40] <Razor-X> I have to throttle my counsellors, it's on my list
[08:40] <Razor-X> hondje: i'm gonna major in mathematics ;)
[08:40] <Razor-X> Pure Math, if I have my way
[08:40] <hondje> Razor-X: schools are crap :( I never graduated HS
[08:41] <Razor-X> hondje: !
[08:41] <hondje> They kicked me out, I was uncivilized in my youth
[08:41] <Razor-X> I'm nonconformist, but not rebellious
[08:41] <hondje> But I didn't learn anything either, when I decided to go back to school it wasn't hard at all
[08:41] <Razor-X> I come to school dressed as Euler's number
[08:41] <Razor-X> *came
[08:41] <Razor-X> it was a fun experience
[08:41] <Razor-X> ;)
[08:41] <hondje> hehe
[08:42] <Razor-X> really, the credit/prerequisite system in our school is total crap
[08:42] <hondje> But why study boring pure math when you can be a professional liar?
[08:42] <Razor-X> it's goood for the not-so-bright, but, for anyone that has a speck of gray matter...........
[08:42] <Razor-X> Pure Math is awesome!
[08:42] <hondje> Physics is great....I figured out my next funding adventure: "Dark Gravity"
[08:42] <Razor-X> just the amount of fun you can find in the trig functions speaks volumes about math's funness
[08:42] <hondje> dark matter and energy are total BS, and look at the funding they get...I'm going to get bank on this one
[08:43] <Razor-X> not the right-triangle ratios, I mean the unit circle definitions
[08:43] <hondje> yes, I love trig
[08:43] <Razor-X> hondje: hehe
[08:43] <hondje> trig and linear algebra
[08:43] <Razor-X> I used to hate it... before I knew about the unit circle
[08:43] <hondje> abstract algebra is really neat too
[08:43] <Razor-X> linear algebra is boring!
[08:43] <hondje> Razor-X: :o No way
[08:43] <Razor-X> Calculus seems easy, at leats differential calculus
[08:43] <Razor-X> *least
[08:43] <hondje> subspaces are pure joy
[08:43] <Razor-X> I haven't gottent to integration yet
[08:43] <dr_willis> Differental  Geomtery
[08:43] <dr_willis> :P
[08:43] <Razor-X> ewwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!1
[08:43] <hondje> dr_willis: tensor calc!
[08:43] <Razor-X> ;)
[08:43] <dr_willis> Subdermal Hemotoma
[08:43] <Razor-X> the word geometry....... ugggghhhh
[08:44] <hondje> dr_willis: I jsut said that ;-)
[08:44] <Razor-X> I really wanna read up on analysis, sounds damned interesting
[08:44] <hondje> geometry is vectors for dummies :(
[08:44] <Razor-X> geometry is the course I officially finished this year
[08:44] <Amuro> .....................................
[08:44] <Razor-X> like I said, my school refuses to acknowledge my brains
[08:44] <Razor-X> one day, they'll get massacred
[08:44] <Razor-X> you'll see!
[08:44] <hondje> Razor-X: nah, one day you'll realize it doesn't matter :)
[08:44] <Razor-X> hondje
[08:44] <Razor-X> err!
[08:45] <Razor-X> hondje: it fucking does
[08:45] <hondje> It does _now_
[08:45] <Razor-X> after I go to college, i'm fucking going to take it up with the state
[08:45] <hondje> But they're just people doing the best they can
[08:45] <Razor-X> and throttle the senators to take it to congress
[08:45] <Razor-X> our public education system sucks balls
[08:45] <Razor-X> and it _needs_ to change
[08:45] <hondje> They're not like, out to hurt you or something, people don't take up jobs teaching to harm kids, usually
[08:45] <Razor-X> i'm tired of being held back
[08:45] <Razor-X> damned TIRED!
[08:45] <hondje> That's why it's public, it's made for everyone
[08:45] <Razor-X> I can do more! I'm not a 5 year old!
[08:46] <Razor-X> then give more opportunities to those who want to study!
[08:46] <hondje> So drop out
[08:46] <Razor-X> as my mom says "There's no difference between Indian and American public schools"
[08:46] <Razor-X> then my college chances are severely dashed
[08:46] <robzulah> I have a question...
[08:46] <Razor-X> hondje: Indian universities are crazy
[08:46] <Razor-X> robzulah: shoot
[08:46] <hondje> Razor-X: Only if you want to go to like, ivy league for undergrad
[08:46] <hondje> IMHO they're all the same, pick a public uni :)
[08:47] <Razor-X> hondje: exactly, I wan to go to ivy league ;)
[08:47] <hondje> save money, etc
[08:47] <hondje> Razor-X: then you're officially nuts :)
[08:47] <Razor-X> my goal is to sit in the halls of a university crunching numbers, as boring as it seems
[08:47] <Razor-X> with my Linux desktop by my side, running Mathematica ;)
[08:47] <hondje> My goal is to do what I'm doing now...getting paid to fuck off while studying neat physics crap
[08:47] <hondje> maple > mathematica ;)
[08:47] <robzulah> On Ubuntu, some fkeys do operations.  Like f12 is the same as right clicking with the mouse.  I want to assign the fkeys to do other things in some programs, how can I disable the Ubuntu default?
[08:47] <Razor-X> pssh, hondje ;)
[08:48] <hondje> robzulah: system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts I think
[08:48] <Razor-X> robzulah: go through the Gnome config menus, I can't go into detail, because I don't use Gnome
[08:48] <Razor-X> ahhh, there you are robzulah ;)
[08:48] <robzulah> thanks guys!
[08:48] <hondje> robzulah: I lied to you
[08:48] <hondje> applications -> system tools -> configuration editor
[08:49] <Razor-X> hmmm, I need one o dem RGB -> HEX things
[08:49] <hondje> then dig in the metacity sections
[08:49] <bob2> f12 is only right clik on a mac, I think
[08:49] <Razor-X> ahhh, sweet sweet google ;)
[08:50] <hondje> screw google :(
[08:50] <hondje> I wanted my IPO shares, but noooooo
[08:50] <hondje> Told me to bid like everyone else :(
[08:51] <Amuro> k
[08:51] <bl4cktone> hello all
[08:51] <Amuro> thoreauputic,
[08:51] <Amuro> did the update
[08:51] <Amuro> now im gonna open syn and try to dl mplayer again
[08:51] <Razor-X> my vi muscle memory still clashes with emacs usage ;)
[08:51] <hondje> Razor-X: vi > :)
[08:51] <Razor-X> ;)
[08:52] <Amuro> thanks thoreauputic
[08:52] <Amuro> works now
[08:52] <Amuro> ^.^
[08:52] <Razor-X> I like the kitchen sink in 300 kb thing, I guess
[08:52] <Razor-X> plus, the commands seem to flow better
[08:52] <Razor-X> especially on a Dvorak keyboard
[08:52] <Amuro> now i need to know how to install xvid codec xD and then i need to know how to play music/movies off of a mounted hard drive
[08:52] <Razor-X> someone _really_ needs to make a text editor designed for the Dvorak keyboard
[08:53] <Razor-X> Amuro: rather than going through codec hell, install VLC
[08:53] <bob2> Amuro: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:53] <Amuro> kk
[08:53] <hondje> Razor-X: I'd be happy just having my keyboard layout not change on me randomly :(
[08:53] <bob2> Razor-X: how does the keylayout affect a text editor at all?
[08:53] <Razor-X> bob2: it affects it a lot
[08:53] <bl4cktone> I'm trying to install enlightment went to this site http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&highlight=e17 did everything up to using synaptic to install the packages when I select the packages I get a window that says Could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade
[08:53] <Razor-X> especially in vi
[08:53] <bob2> Razor-X: e.g.?
[08:53] <Amuro> ok ubuntu is based off what? so which download should i dl Razor-X
[08:53] <Razor-X> if you noticed, the save-and-quit command-pair in vi is :qw
[08:54] <bob2> yeah, I used vi once or twice...
[08:54] <Razor-X> which are right next to each other on a QWERTY keyboard
[08:54] <Razor-X> Amuro: sudo apt-get install vlc
[08:54] <Razor-X> it's a media player that can play just about any video format
[08:54] <robzulah> hmm, went through and sabotaged metacity, but its still doing it
[08:54] <robzulah> is that just another unavoidable downside to macintosh?
[08:54] <hondje> robzulah: did you restart metacity?
[08:54] <Razor-X> and, the vi movement keys are jkl
[08:54] <bob2> robzulah: f12 is a kernel thing
[08:54] <robzulah> ah
[08:54] <hondje> Razor-X: hey, you make sense man
[08:54] <Razor-X> hondje: hehe ;)
[08:55] <bob2> robzulah: /etc/sysctl.conf would be my guess
[08:55] <robzulah> and I'm guessing, being its a kernel thing, I'm stuck with it unless I'm a good programmer?
[08:55] <Razor-X> on a dvorak keyboard, these keys are miles apart
[08:55] <kestas> ever since I replaced my GeForce 4 Ti 4200 with a GeForce FX 5700 my display has been acting glitchy
[08:55] <Razor-X> robzulah: unless you wanna recompile the kernel, yes ;)
[08:55] <kestas> doom3 runs slower
[08:55] <bob2> bl4cktone: those packages aren't compatible with ubuntu
[08:55] <kestas> way slower
[08:55] <robzulah> shoot
[08:55] <Razor-X> and that doesen't take programming skill
[08:55] <robzulah> alright
[08:55] <Razor-X> that takes guts
[08:55] <Razor-X> XD
[08:55] <robzulah> well thank you for the help!
[08:55] <bob2> Razor-X: robzulah no, it has nothing to do with compiling it
[08:55] <kestas> and after text in X there are these weird lines
[08:55] <bob2> robzulah: edit /etc/sysctl.conf
[08:56] <Razor-X> bob2: really, it can be modified?
[08:56] <Amuro> how do i play movies off of another hard drive thats alrdy mounted
[08:56] <bl4cktone> bob2 woe is me is there anything I can do?
[08:56] <bob2> Razor-X: yes, please don't make assertions if you're not sure
[08:56] <kestas> do I have to reinstall my nvidia driver or something?
[08:56] <Amuro> because i think i have to login to root to do that
[08:56] <Razor-X> then, it isn't really... kernel static, is it
[08:56] <hondje> Amuro: same way you play them on another drive
[08:56] <Amuro> when i dont have a root password
[08:56] <bob2> wtf
[08:56] <hondje> kestas: probably wouldn't hurt
[08:56] <bob2> Amuro: no, you don't have to login as root
[08:56] <Razor-X> you said it's based on the kernel, generally that assumes it's static after a kernel compile
[08:56] <Amuro> well how do i do that then :\
[08:56] <bob2> no
[08:56] <kestas> nvidia-settings detects the card as a GeForce FX 5700, but it's still slower and more glitchy
[08:56] <Razor-X> Amuro: you're talking about a NTFS drive then?
[08:56] <Amuro> Yes
[08:56] <bob2> Amuro: edit /etc/fstab, but umask=002 in the options column instead of "defaults"
[08:57] <kestas> hondje: but the card is detected right, and arent the nvidia drivers supposed to work for all these cards?
[08:57] <hondje> kestas: Yes, you are correct
[08:57] <bob2> bl4cktone: compile it from source to /usr/local/e17 or whatever, I guess
[08:57] <Razor-X> there you are, Amuro, bob2 finished it for me
[08:57] <Amuro> bob2,  a command would be nice ive only been using ubuntu for like 6 hours
[08:57] <Amuro> lol
[08:57] <Amuro> well
[08:57] <bob2> Amuro: I'm not writing a sed script, sorry
[08:57] <Amuro> no i mean
[08:57] <kestas> hondje: also uninstalling nvidia-kernel-common means it tries to uninstall the kernel itself
[08:57] <Amuro> tell me the sudo command
[08:57] <Amuro> :\
[08:57] <kestas> and the headers
[08:57] <bob2> Amuro: open that file in a text editor, e.g. sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[08:57] <Razor-X> Amuro: sudo mount /dev/path/to/hdd /mnt/mount/point -t ntfs -o umask=0222
[08:57] <hondje> kestas: can't help you man, I install the official drivers, never used those :(
[08:58] <cthulfuego> use "defaults,umask=002" as opposed to JUST "umask=002"
[08:58] <Amuro> i mounted my 2nd drive to media/kdrive
[08:58] <kestas> I thought these drivers were official?
[08:58] <bob2> hrm, oops
[08:58] <hondje> kestas: by official I mean the ones from nvidia's site
[08:58] <robzulah> do I need to be root to edit sysctl.conf?
[08:58] <bl4cktone> bob2: damn wish I know what it means to compite it
[08:58] <kestas> but installing the official ones means I'll have to compile my own kernel
[08:58] <cthulfuego> The prepackaged nvidia modules work absolutely FINE with FX5700 cards.
[08:58] <hondje> kestas: and no, there's not a real reason I do that other than I've done it that way forever and didn't bother apt-cache search nvidia :)
[08:58] <bob2> robzulah: yes, of course
[08:58] <bl4cktone> bob: compile that is
[08:59] <kestas> cthulfuego: then why is doom3 going slower and my display more glitchy?
[08:59] <kestas> hondje: ah I see hmm
[08:59] <Amuro> mount: /dev//hdb1 already mounted or /media/kdrive busy
[08:59] <Amuro> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is already mounted on /media/kdrive
[08:59] <hondje> kestas: try using apt-get install --reinstall, it shouldn't cry too much
[08:59] <cthulfuego> kestas: No idea, did you not set X up properly?
[08:59] <kestas> cthulfuego: well the driver is nvidia, I dont think theres anything else to change
[08:59] <hondje> cthulfuego: I'd imagine xorg.conf would be the same between those two cards
[08:59] <kestas> it worked fine with my 4 Ti 4200
[09:00] <cthulfuego> kestas: There is.
[09:00] <bob2> robzulah: sudo nano /etc/sysctl.conf
[09:00] <Amuro> thoreauputic, pm?
[09:00] <kestas> but now that Ive upgraded it doom3 is going slower and Ive got these glitchy lines
[09:00] <brodmann> hey
[09:00] <brodmann> how do i get ownership of readme files
[09:00] <thoreauputic> Amuro: no, sorry
[09:00] <Razor-X> uggghhh, this is a bitch, it takes ages to convert each color value by hand -_-
[09:00] <robzulah> Ha! I knew that one bob2, lol
[09:00] <kestas> cthulfuego: what else?
[09:00] <hondje> kestas: all I can think of is reinstalling all them thar nvidia stuffs
[09:00] <Amuro> Razor-X, may i pm u?
[09:00] <Razor-X> Amuro: shoot
[09:01] <hondje> shouldn't be that bad.... sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx && apt-get install nvidia-glx, perhaps-o
[09:01] <sabotaasi> hi
[09:01] <brodmann> i'm trying to change the default boot order in grub, but I can't change the file to write
[09:01] <brodmann> it's only a readme
[09:01] <brodmann> read
[09:02] <hondje> brodmann: use sudo to edit it
[09:02] <brodmann> says i'm not the owner
[09:02] <Jesse1> hmmm i get this error when ever i type sudo         sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440
[09:02] <hondje> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst or whatever :)
[09:02] <Jesse1> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory
[09:02] <sabotaasi> i need help with audacity
[09:02] <AndyR> brodmann, sudo gedit
[09:02] <kestas> okay Ive reinstalled etc, I'll try rebooting
[09:03] <bob2> Jesse1: wow, somone really breok your system
[09:03] <hondje> kestas: good luck :)
[09:03] <bob2> er, "broke"
[09:03] <brodmann> alrighty, trying that now
[09:03] <dut> Hello!
[09:03] <hondje> Jesse1: did you like, chmod -R 777 /usr or something? :)
[09:03] <Jesse1> hondje, yes
[09:03] <ompaul> sabotaasi, you need to tell people what it is you need to know because that could be anything from installing it to removing it or anywhere inbetween
[09:03] <jamey3> Does anyone have experience with the radeonfb module? I can't get it to work with my X server.
[09:03] <hondje> Jesse1: you're pretty much SOL
[09:04] <hondje> unless you make backups
[09:04] <bob2> Jesse1: why did you do that?
[09:04] <sabotaasi> ompaul, well when i try install audacity it says "depencies libvorbis0a (>=1.1.0) but 1.0.1-1 is to be installed"
[09:04] <Jesse1> sol?
[09:04] <ompaul> Jesse1, shit out of luck
[09:04] <sabotaasi> and i have that libvorbis0a installed already
[09:04] <Jesse1> lol
[09:05] <bob2> sabotaasi: the packages you're trying to install aren't for ubuntu.
[09:05] <dut> It's possible to use Zyxel omni ADSL USB modem under ubuntu?
[09:05] <Jesse1> well that kind of sucks then
[09:05] <hondje> Jesse1: yes, indeed it does
[09:05] <hondje> But now you know not to :)
[09:05] <ompaul> sabotaasi, are you using apt-get to install everything? are you using hoary
[09:05] <Jesse1> yes
[09:06] <bob2> Jesse1: why did you do that to begin with?
[09:06] <Jesse1> changing the folder permisions
[09:06] <bob2> but why?
[09:06] <kestas> still the same
[09:06] <Jesse1> cuz it said i couldnt
[09:06] <kestas> annoying glitchy line problems
[09:06] <Jesse1> meh lucky for me im using the live cd
[09:07] <Jesse1> untill my proper copy comes in the mail
[09:07] <ompaul> sabotaasi, apt-get can also be synaptic or dpkg
[09:08] <hondje> Jesse1: that's the best time to do stuff like that ;-)
[09:08] <Jesse1> yea
[09:08] <ompaul> sabotaasi, anything else is the quick road to hell
[09:08] <kestas> http://pastebin.com/301687 theres my Xorg.0.log
[09:08] <Jesse1> so now before i go do that again
[09:08] <kestas> doesnt look like anythings out of the ordinary
[09:09] <ompaul> bob2, would you care to prove that I have found a bug in thunderbird? and not just something funny with my install
[09:09] <bob2> I don't use it, sorry
[09:09] <cyphase> is there a generic file viewer application
[09:09] <ompaul> bob2, k
[09:09] <cyphase> one that can read all the formats under the sun
[09:09] <cyphase> :)
[09:09] <cyphase> within reason of course
[09:10] <thoreauputic> bob2: do you subscribe to the users list? I've had no mail from it for nearly 24hrs -do you know if it has problems?
[09:10] <bob2> thoreauputic: yeah, I do
[09:10] <Jesse1> how can i get permision to copy stuff to those folders with out using chmod
[09:10] <ompaul> cyphase, there in lies an issue or two - OOo is one tool that reads a lot of file types
[09:10] <bob2> the machine it's on (called rince) is a bit screwed at the moment
[09:10] <thoreauputic> are you getting anything?
[09:10] <thoreauputic> bob2: ah, OK thanks
[09:10] <bob2> Jesse1: why dirs in particular?
[09:11] <sabotaasi> ompaul, im using ubuntu hoary and apt-get install audacity needs that libvorbis0a but its already installed
[09:11] <kestas> doom3 is still much slower
[09:11] <cyphase> ompaul, i was thinking more along the lines of a plain viewer
[09:11] <cyphase> doesn't do anything except show the file
[09:11] <kestas> :( whats going on with my new card
[09:11] <Jesse1> bob2, for mozplugger
[09:11] <jamey3> **My framebruffer is not letting me launch X server; anybody got any ideas?**
[09:12] <bob2> Jesse1: there's a package for that...
[09:12] <Jesse1> bob2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17727&page=1&pp=10
[09:12] <kestas> hmm it does look like Im using out of date drivers
[09:12] <kestas> 7141 is what ubuntu has hondje, but the latest is 766something
[09:12] <kestas> hrmmm
[09:13] <hondje> kestas: yeah, I have that one
[09:13] <hondje> 7664
[09:13] <bob2> Jesse1: right...so install mozplugger from universe
[09:13] <kestas> looks like Ill grab the official ones then..a nd compile a new kernel :(
[09:13] <hondje> jamey3: has a real problem, ol' hondje spent a good two hours on it and couldn't solve it
[09:13] <hondje> kestas: why compile a new kernel?
[09:13] <Jesse1> bob2, then how does it work do i need to set anything?
[09:13] <kestas> hondje: it needs the kernel source and a compiled kernel right?
[09:14] <hondje> kestas: just the kernel-headers packag
[09:14] <kestas> ah okay
[09:14] <bob2> Jesse1: you mean "how do I install mozplugger?"?
[09:14] <parabolize> ya but you have a compiled kernel...
[09:14] <hondje> kestas: thogh I also get the kernel-source pkg, untar it, and link it to /usr/src/linux
[09:14] <jamey3> will anybody help me?
[09:15] <Jesse1> bob2, no i can install it but once its installed do i have to do anything for it to work or it auto
[09:15] <bob2> Jesse1: no
[09:15] <kestas> cthulfuego: are you sure there should be no probs using an FX 5700 with 7141 ubuntu drivers?
[09:16] <parabolize> im sure kestas
[09:16] <kestas> thenw hy is there for me?
[09:16] <hondje> But evolution isn't supposed to crash twice a day on me, either
[09:16] <Jesse1> bob2, ok then thank u for your help now time to restart my computer to get it all nice and working again for me to break it with in the next few days
[09:16] <kestas> Im using the RenderAccel extension, maybe thats the problem
[09:16] <bob2> Jesse1: heh, good luck
[09:16] <hondje> kestas: yes, that's experimental
[09:16] <Jesse1> yea
[09:17] <jamey3> will anybody help me? :P
[09:17] <kestas> worked absolutely fine with the Ti 4200
[09:17] <jamey3> Ti 4200 is an excellent card
[09:17] <parabolize> jamey3: post some error logs in #flood so somebody will have something to work with
[09:17] <kestas> jamey3: which would you choose Ti 4200 or FX 5700?
[09:17] <jamey3> okay one sec
[09:17] <jamey3> Ti 4200
[09:18] <kestas> ?? isnt the FX 5700 supposed to be better?
[09:18] <hondje> jamey3: post the ones I picked out for you
[09:18] <Cine> anyone know why gnutella would crash randomly?
[09:18] <kestas> 5700 is supposed to be next generation card
[09:18] <hondje> they need to number them better
[09:18] <hondje> 1, 2, 3, 4... 5 < 6, etc
[09:18] <jamey3> hehe
[09:18] <jamey3> okay I've posted the relevant error in #flood
[09:18] <brodmann> I just installed the OS, do i need to get the ati drivers for the 9600xt card?
[09:18] <hondje> I buy my cards based on the most important benchmark: cost
[09:19] <jamey3> any ideas anyone?
[09:19] <kestas> but I got the Ti 4200 2 years ago?
[09:19] <ompaul> cyphase do this in a terminal and choose the one you believe to be of most use to you 'apt-cache search file | grep view | less' - install it with 'apt-get install filename'
[09:19] <kestas> god damn @(*$ computer salesman
[09:19] <kosiarz> hey;] 
[09:19] <parabolize> jamey3: no idea. no good with radeon
[09:19] <hondje> never trust salesmen
[09:19] <jamey3> ok thanks
[09:19] <kosiarz> :>
[09:19] <jamey3> anyone else?
[09:19] <Amuro> I installed VLC and it plays all movies fine however there is no sound, can someone help me? however it does play a sound when i close a window ect.
[09:19] <hondje> jamey3: if no one can help you, I have some dumb ideas
[09:19] <jamey3> okay go ahead :P
[09:20] <hondje> jamey3: install the fancy drivers
[09:20] <jamey3> ooh how do I do that?
[09:20] <hondje> jamey3: Um, I dunno....apt-get install fglrx-control xorg-driver-fglrx I guess
[09:21] <jamey3> woah!
[09:21] <hondje> any ati users want to tell me to stop lying, feel free
[09:21] <jamey3> okay I'll do an apt-cache search for that :P
[09:22] <hondje> jamey3: that's what I did, apt-cache search fglrx
[09:22] <Amuro> when i play a movie in  a player the audio lags between the speech
[09:22] <Amuro> anyone got any ideas why
[09:22] <Amuro> ?
[09:22] <hondje> Amuro: is the movie on a dvd/vcd?
[09:22] <jamey3> hondje: ok great. What does fglrx mean>
[09:22] <Amuro> AVi
[09:22] <Amuro> mpeg
[09:22] <Amuro> wmv
[09:22] <hondje> jamey3: I dunno, never had an ATI card
[09:22] <Amuro> any movie extension
[09:22] <hondje> Amuro: oh, no idea :)
[09:23] <jamey3> hondje: okay thanks. It says 17.9MB!
[09:23] <hondje> jamey3: I'm guessing 'FireGLRadeonXtreme'
[09:23] <jamey3> hondje: stupid ATI folk, naming their architecture with such exciting names
[09:23] <hondje> yeah
[09:24] <hondje> should be 'driver_for_ati_cards_1'
[09:24] <jamey3> hondje: how do I "get" that driver.. or are you just saying that's the name?
[09:25] <Razor-X> hondje: you use E?
[09:25] <Razor-X> or at least, eterm?
[09:25] <spiral> hi
[09:25] <hondje> jamey3: Um, my guess is apt-get install fglrx-control xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-kernel-source
[09:25] <hondje> Razor-X: yes to first, no to second
[09:25] <Razor-X> hondje: errrggg! :(
[09:25] <hondje> Razor-X: I used to, years back...what's up?
[09:26] <jamey3> hondje: whoops I did the first command you gave me. is that okay?
[09:26] <hondje> jamey3: yeah, just missing the kernel source thiingy
[09:26] <jamey3> okay so do that now
[09:26] <hondje> remember, I'm just guessing here, a lot
[09:26] <hondje> but no worse than our studious and determined efforts before, eh
[09:27] <jamey3> hehe, so I will be recompiling my kernel?
[09:27] <Amuro> How come i cant play music files off of another mounted hard drive
[09:27] <Amuro> i can play movies
[09:27] <Amuro> but when i open the file in xmms and music player
[09:27] <hondje> jamey3: no way
[09:27] <Amuro> it freezes on me
[09:27] <jamey3> hondje: aw, I just wanna'd to say something l33t for once. ;)
[09:27] <jamey3> what's gonna be going on then?
[09:28] <Amuro> Well
[09:28] <Amuro> anyone?
[09:28] <Amuro> I can play movies off of a mounted hard drive but the audio lags and also i cant play music files from them
[09:28] <hondje> jamey3: in hondje land, we're installing a new driver for your card....we edit xorg.conf AGAIN, and see what happens?
[09:28] <jamey3> okay hondje, I'll start PM'ing you again ;)
[09:29] <hondje> okie
[09:29] <Amuro> bob2,  u there?
[09:29] <thoreauputic> Amuro: people here are volunteers: have some patience - stop expecting people to fix everything for you *right now* and stop repeating, please
[09:29] <bob2> ?
[09:30] <Amuro> may i pm u
[09:30] <bob2> no
[09:30] <Amuro> yes i know thoreauputic, but id still like help for stuff
[09:30] <thoreauputic> Amuro: sure
[09:31] <thoreauputic> Amuro: just be patient - if someone knows an answer they will give it
[09:31] <bob2> I don't understand the question still, personally
[09:32] <thoreauputic> Amuro: keeping your problem in channel help because when you pm people the channel loses the thread of your problems
[09:32] <Amuro> ok
[09:32] <thoreauputic> *helps
[09:32] <rob_> anyone knowedgeable with gnucash-1.8.11?
[09:33] <Amuro> but its hard to concentrate one the answers given when 30 ppl are talking at once
[09:33] <Amuro> :\
[09:33] <thoreauputic> Amuro: sorry I was a bit short with you - but this is how IRC works
[09:33] <Amuro> Yes i know how irc works, but ive never been to a linux help chan before
[09:34] <bob2> Amuro: why don't you explain your problem fro mthe start again
[09:34] <Amuro> Ok.
[09:34] <bob2> there's hardly anyone else talking at the moment
[09:34] <simondood> simondood, hi to myself
[09:34] <thoreauputic> Amuro: for your xmms problem, try looking in prefs and choose the esound output plugin
[09:34] <simondood> dooh
[09:34] <abrocadabro> Amuro: what do you mean you can't play music, could you be more specific?
[09:34] <Amuro> I installed VLC, and it plays video and audio, however the audio lags
[09:35] <Amuro> and also, when i open a music file from a mounted hard drive, in lets say XMMS, it will not play and it freezes that program
[09:35] <brodmann> how do i run a file from the terminal
[09:35] <bob2> Amuro: do what thoreauputic said for xmms
[09:35] <bob2> brodmann: do you mean "run a program"?
[09:35] <thoreauputic> Amuro: have you tried my xmms suggestion?
[09:35] <Amuro> im bout to
[09:36] <abrocadabro> Amuro: what does ps ax|grep esd say?
[09:36] <brodmann> well, it's a sh file extension
[09:36] <pepsi> Amuro, i believe that you can adjust the audio synchronization in VLC's options somewhere
[09:36] <bob2> brodmann: please don't /msg me
[09:37] <brodmann> oh sorry
[09:37] <Amuro> Thank you thoreauputic
[09:37] <Amuro> works
[09:37] <bob2> if you mean "run a program", type it's name
[09:37] <thoreauputic> Amuro: OK great :)
[09:37] <Amuro> abrocadabro, what do u mean
[09:37] <j-rock> cat <filename>
[09:37] <j-rock> brodmann: cat <filename>
[09:37] <bob2> that doesn't run a program
[09:38] <abrocadabro> Amuro: never mind, you had it fixed anyway
[09:38] <j-rock> it sure does run a file though
[09:38] <Amuro> now i still need help for my VLC question
[09:38] <thoreauputic> Amuro: the vlc thing you might have to play with config options as pepsi says
[09:38] <Amuro> but before that how do i choose a specific program to open different extensions
[09:39] <thoreauputic> Amuro: in the file manager, right click a file >> properties >> open with >> add program of choice
[09:39] <thoreauputic> Amuro: and check that box if you want it default
[09:40] <Amuro> File managers
[09:40] <brodmann> permission denied
[09:40] <Amuro> Would that be just the folder or
[09:41] <Amuro> what
[09:41] <Amuro> ahh
[09:41] <Amuro> nvm
[09:41] <brodmann> tried running that file bob, got the msg permission denied
[09:41] <Amuro> found it
[09:41] <bob2> brodmann: so, what file is it?
[09:41] <cdc> are you people getting insert table option in OpenOffice.org?
[09:42] <cdc> i dont get it at all and its not a bug with OpenOffice
[09:42] <brodmann> well, i'm trying to find out if i need to install the ati 9600xt drivers, because i just installed the OS
[09:42] <thoreauputic> Amuro: don't use "open with" - go to the bottom and use "properties"
[09:42] <Amuro> yes i did that
[09:42] <Amuro> thanks btw
[09:42] <thoreauputic> OK
[09:42] <Amuro> now i need to find a cedega expert ^.^
[09:42] <bob2> brodmann: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:42] <Amuro> and im set
[09:42] <bob2> brodmann: you don't need to install them, but you can if you want
[09:43] <brodmann> oh ok
[09:43] <brodmann> seems like some of the graphics in the screensavers run slow
[09:46] <jamey3> **>> just to say: hondje is the greatest! :D He fixed my annoying framebuffer problem w00t
[09:46] <Jesse1> lol
[09:47] <hondje> jamey3: so that took only what, 4 hours worth of messing around?
[09:47] <cdc> are you people getting insert table option in OpenOffice.org? i dont get it at all and its not a bug with OpenOffice
[09:48] <cdc> could someone check and let me know please?
[09:48] <cdc> i dont see that option at all in the insert menu of Impress
[09:48] <hondje> jamey3: on the plus side, I learned ya' some sshd and the like
[09:48] <Amuro> now
[09:48] <Jesse1> hmmm
[09:48] <Amuro> where to get ati radeon drivers
[09:48] <Amuro> for linux
[09:48] <vinux> Well take care all. See you all tomorrow :)
[09:48] <cdc> not in writer . Its in impress that  i am not getting the option of insert table
[09:49] <Jesse1> mozplugger doesnt want to work
[09:49] <thoreauputic> !ati
[09:49] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:49] <thoreauputic> Amuro: ^^^^
[09:50] <Lancellor> hello anybody knows how register a nickname on freenode??
[09:50] <hondje> Lancellor: /msg nickserv help
[09:50] <Seveas> Lancellor, msg nickserv help
[09:50] <Seveas> damn you, dog :p
[09:50] <hondje> Seveas: hah!
[09:50] <ompaul> cdc when you say table, you are taking it from a db?
[09:50] <hondje> Seveas: hey, what's your make-jpkg voodoo, man?
[09:51] <Seveas> hm?
[09:51] <Lancellor> i tried everithing even this link http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[09:51] <hondje> the spiel you give people about java
[09:51] <Seveas> make-jpkg isn't voodoo
[09:51] <Razor-X> anyone here use eterm?
[09:51] <Seveas> it's regular magic :)
[09:51] <Razor-X> gah!
[09:51] <Seveas> hondje: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[09:51] <Razor-X> I have questions! :(
[09:51] <Razor-X> and #enlightement is dead
[09:51] <hondje> Seveas: thanks, cut 'n pasting that to my 'things newbies like to know' file
[09:51] <cdc> ompaul, no i mean a normal tabular format
[09:51] <Jesse1> bob2, i installed mozplugger it doesnt seem to work when i got to a website that has streaming music
[09:52] <Seveas> Razor-X: probably because it's #enligtenment
[09:52] <cdc> ompaul, could you please look into this and let me know i am not getting that insert option in Impress at all
[09:52] <cdc> ompaul, i dont know the reason at all
[09:52] <Lancellor> still when i tried to join a channel this is what i get :Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel
[09:52] <cdc> hey hondje
[09:52] <bob2> Lancellor: so, /msg chanserv help
[09:52] <hondje> cdc: yo
[09:52] <Seveas> Lancellor, register a nickname and let your irc client identify automatically
[09:53] <Lancellor> how i do that
[09:53] <kosiarz> Lancellor: so try to register on freenode, this is quite simple
[09:53] <ompaul> cdc slow down - please answer the questions I have for you :) do you wish to create a table and insert data in it within that application?
[09:53] <Seveas> if this is all abracadabra, go to the freenode website
[09:53] <Seveas> it's explained tere
[09:53] <Seveas> there*
[09:53] <kosiarz> hehe, 'abracadabra'
[09:53] <unreal> would anyone here have a clue why my USB keyboard works, and the USB mouse doesn't?
[09:53] <unreal> it's a wireless keyboard and mouse that use the same USB receiver
[09:53] <Lancellor> i followed all the steps and still does not work
[09:53] <cdc> ompaul, i ve got some data i need to display that data in a presentation using impress in a tabular format as simple as this.
[09:53] <Jesse1> lancellor. just type it in /msg chanserv help and hit enter
[09:53] <hondje> unreal: because it's set correctly for the keyboard and not the mouse.
[09:53] <cdc> ompaul, i need to type in the data in a tabular format very easy
[09:54] <cdc> but i dont see that option in impress at all
[09:54] <hondje> unreal: I'd dig around in your xorg.conf file, see where it thinks your mouse is
[09:54] <abrocadabro> unreal: did you set the channel right?
[09:54] <unreal> channel? heh
[09:54] <Amuro> thanks guys
[09:54] <Amuro> im out
[09:55] <Amuro> ill be on tomorrow for more help
[09:55] <bl4cktone> Hey all just installed ubuntu today first time using linux found ubuntuguide.org and it's helped me out alot.  about to try installing unreal or something
[09:55] <cdc> ompaul, do you get the option ?
[09:55] <hondje> unreal: or my favorite, disconnect and reconnect it while tailing /var/log/messages
[09:55] <Lancellor> nothing happens
[09:55] <hondje> unreal: oh, then I should probabably slow WAY down :)
[09:55] <unreal> heh
[09:55] <abrocadabro> unreal: it happens to me that the wireless keyboard and mouse has its own channel, flip over your keyboard and have a look
[09:55] <Jesse1> ive installed mozplugger now trying to listen to the music on this page http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/window/media/player/listen/0,,3225039,00.html it still says that it needs aditional plug ins
[09:56] <abrocadabro> unreal: or check your reciever
[09:56] <ompaul> cdc what I did was I inserted a spreadsheet and added data to that - however that may not be the effect you are looking for
[09:56] <unreal> the hardware is fine, I just have no idea what to do
[09:56] <hondje> Jesse1: cruise over to mplayer's website, download their codecs and put them all in /usr/lib/win32
[09:56] <cdc> ompaul, yes so that means Ubuntu has broke something in openoffice?
[09:56] <Jesse1> ive got the win32 codecs
[09:56] <cdc> ompaul, how is this possible
[09:56] <thoreauputic> Lancellor: try switching to the server channel
[09:57] <thoreauputic> Lancellor: the tab on the left in xchat
[09:57] <cdc> ompaul, i am pretty sure that its not a bug with OpenOffice. There is some problem in Ubuntu i guess
[09:57] <abrocadabro> unreal: don't rip it apart, just check if it has a switch or not, mine does
[09:57] <hondje> unreal while unplugging it and stuff, do 'sudo tail /var/log/messages'
[09:57] <RobNyc> does hoary comes with the necessary things to be able to compile apps ?
[09:57] <hondje> sometimes useful, sometimes misleading
[09:57] <unreal> hmm
[09:57] <Razor-X> hondje: hmmmm, i've never encountered fonts ni WxH form
[09:57] <hondje> RobNyc: You're here too?
[09:57] <waxhead> quick question, if I was to add the mono deb site http://debian.meebey.net/pkg-mono ./ am I likely to break anything else with my install?
[09:57] <RobNyc> i want to run make ; make install for a script that needs to be compiled
[09:57] <RobNyc> hondje, where u from
[09:57] <unreal>  usbmouse: blacklisted
[09:58] <waxhead> I just want to get latest mono and monodevelop...
[09:58] <hondje> RobNyc: don't play coy, son ;-)
[09:58] <Razor-X> hondje: but, in the only theme.cfg I have for Eterm, it uses those
[09:58] <RobNyc> hondje, i got the ubuntu cds i felt like installing it lol
[09:58] <RobNyc> ( Operating System ) Linux Ubuntu 5.04 - hoary Kernel: .6.10-5-686, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 6.8.2 | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.4.1
[09:58] <hondje> Razor-X: oh,I dunno :)
[09:58] <Razor-X> hondje: how would I use them?
[09:58] <Razor-X> damn damn!
[09:58] <hondje> RobNyc: Any distro left untested by you yet? :)
[09:58] <ompaul> cdc (A) that is an assumption (B) what you are doing requires an expert in the impress domain - I have lots of use of it under my belt - however I am not sure that you are defining exactly what you want in language that I can understand - maybe use gimp or some such and create an image that tells the story of how it should look and ask at that time
[09:59] <RobNyc> hondje, yes many i dont care anymore i have my chosen ones or chosen few
[09:59] <newbie> does anyone experience on changing your screen resolution in VT.
[09:59] <masahiro> Hi guys, still same problem as last night : No sound
[09:59] <hondje> RobNyc: as long as you're happy man :)
[09:59] <hondje> newbie: VT?
[09:59] <RobNyc> hondje, yea and you
[09:59] <newbie> virtual terminal
[09:59] <RobNyc> My main pc running XP Pro / Phaeronix (Gentoo)
[09:59] <cdc> ompaul, its very simple just do this go to writer and go to insert menu and there u see an option Insert Table i want the same option in Impress
[09:59] <ompaul> cdc actually try this
[09:59] <cdc> thats it
[09:59] <cdc> ompaul, got it ?
[09:59] <hondje> RobNyc: oh, I got tired of picking on ubuntu when hoary came out, and dropped sid on the desktop
[09:59] <RobNyc> Here on my old pc Celeron running Ubuntu
[09:59] <cdc> ompaul, i dont want a spreadsheet
[10:00] <RobNyc> hondje, Kanotix best bet
[10:00] <cdc> ompaul, i want a table
[10:00] <hondje> RobNyc: nah, I'm a GNU Hippy
[10:00] <hondje> So I got to stay close to debian
[10:00] <hondje> RobNyc: novaflare and sensebend keep showing up, too
[10:00] <RobNyc> hondje, Kanotix #1 lol
[10:00] <hondje> :p
[10:01] <RobNyc> hondje, lso wat u runnin
[10:02] <masahiro> I have outlined my problem @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=218564#post218564
[10:02] <RobNyc> hondje, man get a rolling release distro thats what they told me
[10:03] <Razor-X> I feel like a n00b bleating for help constantly :(
[10:03] <hondje> RobNyc: ubuntu on the desktop, debian on other stuff, mac for the missus
[10:03] <hondje> Razor-X: don't learn if you don't ask
[10:03] <ompaul> cdc there is no such text in the menu maybe this is a feature that you have to work at some other way - launchpad.ubuntu.com for bugs
[10:03] <Razor-X> hondje: true that
[10:03] <Razor-X> well, i'll ask again
[10:03] <Razor-X> anyone have experience with Eterm configuring?
[10:03] <hondje> Razor-X: oh, that reminds me of my lovely troll earlier today
[10:04] <cdc> ompaul, no but Debian packages have got this option
[10:04] <hondje> I sent a newbie off to set up x font server by hand :)
[10:04] <cdc> how is this possible
[10:04] <Razor-X> HAHAHAHAHAHA
[10:04] <Razor-X> i'm sorry, i'm sorry!
[10:04] <cdc> ompaul, i also enquired in the openoffice.org irc and they said openoffice has this feature
[10:05] <ompaul> cdc are you using 2.0 or 1.1.3 ?
[10:05] <cdc> ompaul, 1.1.3
[10:05] <cdc> 2.0 is not released yet
[10:06] <cdc> now i am downloading 1.1.4 from the website
[10:06] <cdc> i think its the packaging that has caused the issue
[10:06] <mojojojo_> how do i install [perl?
[10:06] <ompaul> cdc that might just help, the packaging may have broken it - report it as a bug
[10:06] <Jesse1> hondje, so where do i extract the files to again?
[10:06] <hondje> Jesse1: what files? I forgot
[10:06] <mojojojo_> nvm
[10:07] <hondje> oh yes, codecs
[10:07] <bob2> mojojojo_: you already have perl installed
[10:07] <hondje>  Jesse1 they go to /usr/lib/win32
[10:07] <masahiro> Please?
[10:07] <Jesse1> hondje, theres no folder callled win32
[10:07] <hondje> Jesse1: sudo mkdir /usr/lib/win32
[10:07] <cdc> hondje, when i say g++ it says command not found
[10:08] <hondje> cdc: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:08] <cdc> what package is to be installed to get rid off this error
[10:08] <Lancellor> can somebody guidme trough the process of registering my nickname on freenode??
[10:08] <thoreauputic> cdc: build-essential
[10:08] <masahiro> Please can someone help me get my sound to work?
[10:08] <hondje> Lancellor: /msg nickserv register <password>
[10:08] <RobNyc> hondje,
[10:08] <RobNyc> os[Linux 2.6.10-5-686 i686]  distro[Debian 3.1]  cpu[1 x Celeron (Coppermine) @ 635MHz]  mem[Physical : 249MB, 10.3% free]  disk[Total : 13.57GB/17.42GB Free]  video[8086:7125]  sound[ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH] 
[10:08] <Lancellor> i tried
[10:08] <RobNyc> distro[Debian 3.1] 
[10:08] <thoreauputic> hondje: oops didn't see yours ;)
[10:08] <formnull> masahiro: do you know what kind of sound card you have, and if the driver is loading correctly?
[10:08] <RobNyc> lol
[10:09] <hondje> Lancellor: the /msg nickserv identify <password>
[10:09] <masahiro> I think it's an ac97-type onboard, and I have pasted the error messages @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=218564#post218564
[10:09] <Jesse1> hondje, You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/usr/lib/win32"
[10:09] <hondje> Jesse1: use sudo
[10:10] <Lancellor> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup i follow this guide but every time i try to get in to some channels still saying the i need to register my nickname
[10:10] <thoreauputic> Lancellor: /msg nickserv identify <password>
[10:10] <Jesse1> hondje, what command i was just going to drag and drop
[10:11] <formnull> masahiro: well i think you'll need to get some lower-level info.. for one thing you can look in /var/log/messages
[10:11] <hondje> Jesse1: I don't know how to do that stuff
[10:11] <Jesse1> hondje, ok
[10:11] <formnull> masahiro: you might try loading the driver directly
[10:11] <formnull> masahiro: usually this is done for you by the autodetection
[10:12] <Lancellor> i did it and open other window with my name and say identify <mypassword>
[10:12] <formnull> masahiro: drivers are in ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/sound/pci/
[10:13] <formnull> masahiro: e.g. you could see the ac97 drivers in ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/sound/pci/ac97
[10:13] <hondje> Lancellor: did you /msg nickserv that?
[10:13] <thoreauputic> Lancellor: you do the command on one line:  /msg nickserv identify <password> where <password> is your password
[10:14] <formnull> masahiro: if you have an ac97 card, I would try loading that driver by doing "modprobe snd-ac97-codec" and then "sudo tail /var/log/messages" to see what errors (if any) you are getting
[10:14] <Lancellor> yes is how i did it
[10:14] <masahiro> formnull:(I sm still here, trying the commands)
[10:14] <formnull> masahiro: there may be a more straightforward way of going about troubleshooting this, but that's the most direct way i can think of
[10:15] <masahiro> Shall I go to the pasteserver?
[10:15] <Jesse1> whats the command to extract tar.bz2 files?
[10:16] <masahiro> formnull: Lots of errors came up, I will logon to the server for pasting. See you there.
[10:16] <thoreauputic> Jesse1: tar xvjf <file>
[10:16] <ThE__OnE> how can i reinstall perl?
[10:16] <emanuelez> hello
[10:16] <formnull> masahiro: well i need to go to sleep... sorry I cannot help more :) hopefully this will give you some ideas.. i would try google, or post to the forum, or ask here what may be relevant..
[10:16] <Jesse1> ok
[10:16] <masahiro> Ok thanks
[10:16] <Jesse1> thoreauputic, that will just extract to where it is?
[10:16] <ThE__OnE> someone please help
[10:17] <emanuelez> i have to edit a huge book written in latex with a friend and he lives in another city. is there an easy subversioning tool out there?
[10:17] <ThE__OnE> how can i reinstall perl?
[10:17] <thoreauputic> Jesse1: to the current working dir, yes
[10:17] <Jesse1> thoreauputic, ok
[10:17] <hondje> emanuelez: subversion?
[10:18] <Jesse1> thoreauputic, im trying to install the mplayer codecs i downloaded
[10:18] <emanuelez> hondje,  thats what i was thinking about... is it hard to use?
[10:18] <hondje> emanuelez: No clue, never used it :)  But smarter people than I say so
[10:19] <emanuelez> hondje, lol
[10:19] <thoreauputic> Jesse1: I haven't done that but I imagine you extract them in the dir you were pointed to
[10:19] <hondje> emanuelez: can't be harder than editing a book in latex
[10:19] <Jesse1> yea but its acsess denied
[10:19] <hondje> after 100 pages I cannot keep it all together
[10:19] <ThE__OnE> how can i reinstall perl?
[10:19] <thoreauputic> Jesse1: sudo is your friend ;)
[10:20] <emanuelez> hondje, naaa latex is your friend
[10:20] <emanuelez> :)
[10:20] <hondje> emanuelez: I love it, I'm just incompetant :)
[10:20] <ThE__OnE> comon
[10:20] <ThE__OnE> anyone?
[10:20] <bl4cktone> so guys I got a crx just today, no pressure in the cylinders any of them, but the timing is correct and valves are working thinking maybe it's the head gasket
[10:20] <emanuelez> hondje, just keep chapters separated, create a makefile and u're done :)
[10:21] <thoreauputic> Jesse1: sudo cp file /path/to/win32/dir ; cd path/to/win32/dir ; tar xvjf <file>
[10:21] <thoreauputic> sorry the last one needs sudo too
[10:21] <thoreauputic> sudo tar etcetc
[10:21] <ThE__OnE> hello?
[10:22] <bl4cktone> ThE--OnE hello
[10:22] <ThE__OnE> how can i reinstall perl?
[10:22] <bl4cktone> ThE__OnE what's up
[10:22] <ThE__OnE> the usual
[10:22] <ThE__OnE> feeling left out
[10:23] <Fish-Face> apt-get install perl ;-)
[10:23] <bl4cktone> ThE__OnE yeah gets that way around here
[10:23] <ThE__OnE> where everyone answers every stupid question of other peoples but leave out to answer my stupid question
[10:23] <_pax> lol
[10:23] <bl4cktone> ThE__OnE lol
[10:23] <sturmkind> helo
[10:23] <hondje> ThE__OnE: apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[10:23] <ThE__OnE> how can i "reinstall" perl?
[10:23] <kosiarz> damn, i think Synaptic isn't using specified proxy settings in gnome
[10:23] <ThE__OnE> k
[10:24] <kosiarz> how come?
[10:24] <kosiarz> ;] 
[10:24] <sturmkind> Question: how could i play a mp3 file onto the bash?
[10:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> mornin all ::yawn::
[10:24] <hondje> if that doesn't rock your socks or whatever the saying is, then apt-get remove --purge <pkg> and then apt-get install <pkg>
[10:24] <bl4cktone> like how I wanted to install enlightment but someone told me to compile it from the source and I have no idea what that means I was all getting used to sudo get-apt install <insert program here>
[10:24] <ThE__OnE> i dont think thats right
[10:24] <thoreauputic> sturmkind: erm... sudo apt-get install cplay or mp3blaster, or just use mpg123 or mpg321
[10:25] <thoreauputic> sturmkind: if I umderstood you correctly...
[10:25] <sturmkind> thoreauputic: thank you! you make my day :-)
[10:25] <thoreauputic> sturmkind: :)
[10:25] <hondje> ThE__OnE: the zen perl reinstaller would find the path that is true
[10:26] <sturmkind> btw. i haven't know that there is a circus on my harddisk! => http://www.ubuntu.de
[10:26] <ThE__OnE> look
[10:26] <ThE__OnE> http://pastebin.com/301706
[10:26] <Echylo> btw I get a .xinitrc error everytime I boot. (last session didn't last 10 seconds, and then .xinitrc line 47 couldn't exec xwmf) it happened after installing first xfce and then xfce4
[10:26] <thoreauputic> sturmkind: a circus??
[10:26] <ThE__OnE> its gonna uninstll all my programs lol
[10:26] <unreal> ah, back, just gave my dad some fish, heh
[10:26] <sturmkind> thoreauputic: yes, a circus from germany *g*
[10:26] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, install --reinstall
[10:26] <Seveas> not remove --reinstall..
[10:27] <ThE__OnE> oops
[10:27] <bl4cktone> Format C:
[10:27] <bl4cktone> Y
[10:27] <unreal> is there a quick way to reload xorg.conf?
[10:27] <Echylo> ctrl alt backspace?
[10:27] <Echylo> but
[10:27] <ThE__OnE> thx seveas
[10:27] <Echylo> it restarts your session
[10:28] <Echylo> so close everything important
[10:28] <ThE__OnE> and thx hondje
[10:28] <hondje> You are welcome
[10:28] <hondje> ThE__OnE: for other fun apt things, run 'man apt-get'
[10:28] <mypapit> yeahh...  i'm able to connect to internet with ubuntu.... note to ubuntu developers, please make sure that there are obvious way for an average person person like me to connect through adsl/broadband... currently i have to find out by myself how to connect to internet like crazy
[10:28] <unreal> heh, i'm not running x atm, just wondering how to make it detect my mouse without reboot now that I updated xorg.conf
[10:29] <unreal> doesn't matter, i'll reboot anyway, brb
[10:29] <Echylo> :D
[10:29] <Echylo> Anyone knows : I get a .xinitrc error everytime I boot. (last session didn't last 10 seconds, and then .xinitrc line 47 couldn't exec xwmf) it happened after installing first xfce and then xfce4
[10:29] <Echylo> ?
[10:30] <thoreauputic> Echylo: any particular reason you are using a .xinitrc file? It should be .xsession (.xinitrc is only there for legacy purposes)
[10:30] <Echylo> dunno, it gives me that error
[10:30] <Echylo> everytime it boots gdm
[10:30] <Echylo> it wants to do last session
[10:30] <thoreauputic> Echylo: and if you have 47 lines, that's one heck of a .xinitrc
[10:31] <Echylo> then what should i do?
[10:31] <thoreauputic> Echylo: did you write your own ~/.xinitrc ?
[10:31] <unreal> hmm
[10:31] <Echylo> no :)
[10:31] <hondje> where'd it come from?
[10:32] <hondje> I have xfce4 installed, I don't have one :(
[10:32] <Echylo> I first installed xfce
[10:32] <thoreauputic> Echylo: is there a .xinitrc in your home dir ?
[10:32] <Echylo> then xfce4
[10:32] <Echylo> thoreauputic, yes
[10:32] <thoreauputic> Echylo: delete it
[10:32] <Echylo> :)
[10:32] <Echylo> ok
[10:32] <thoreauputic> Echylo: and choose xfce4 from login screen
[10:32] <thoreauputic> sessions
[10:32] <Echylo> ok
[10:32] <Echylo> btw anyone knows why gedit crashes in xfce when trying to paste something?
[10:33] <thoreauputic> Echylo: if you are paranoid, rename it instead ( eg mv .xinitrc .xinitrc.old )
[10:33] <Echylo> :)
[10:33] <hondje> Echylo: You have hondje-itis! Mystical forces cause wacko crashes!
[10:33] <Echylo> too late :p
[10:33] <thoreauputic> Echylo: that's OK
[10:33] <Echylo> but thanks :)
[10:33] <unreal> /dev/input/mouse1 works properly, I updated xorg.conf, and my mouse still doesn't seem to work
[10:34] <thoreauputic> Echylo: xfce4 should have given you a session entry anyway in gdm
[10:34] <newbie> unreal im having problems like you...
[10:34] <unreal> heh
[10:34] <Echylo> "you are not alone"
[10:34] <newbie> so if you found the solution pm...
[10:35] <bl4cktone> dang I look down and keep seeing the words unreal
[10:35] <bl4cktone> like every couple of mins it's something
[10:35] <newbie> unreal: but you can startx when booting with the default kernel?
[10:35] <Razor-X> uggghhhh.... i'm taking a break from Eterm configging
[10:35] <unreal> newbie: nope, can't atm, it doesn't seem to like my graphics card I think
[10:36] <bl4cktone> It's so easy I mean if we all used linux then we would all be super villians heh
[10:36] <unreal> "Fatal server error: no screens found" heh
[10:36] <Razor-X> if only someone could hellp me!
[10:36] <newbie> ati?
[10:36] <unreal> yup
[10:36] <newbie> coz mine is ati 9200 se...
[10:37] <newbie> waaaaa
[10:37] <unreal> lol
[10:37] <signius> if everyone used Linux then we would all be scum and something like amiga OS would be the cool thing to use
[10:37] <bl4cktone> Razor-X what's up
[10:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hey anyone have any ideas of where to get a really cheap pci vid card?
[10:37] <Razor-X> bl4cktone: Eterm's being a bitch to configure
[10:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> perferibly nvidia
[10:37] <unreal> I have an x740 in this box, but that's only so I can display things properly.. or not at the moment :)
[10:37] <evtorb> trash
[10:37] <thoreauputic> unreal: run " sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg " and say "no" to the framebuffer question
[10:37] <pepsi> ChurcH_of_FoamY, friends that are throwing them away
[10:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[10:37] <newbie> I've been configuring X last night but i can't fix it...so im giving up...
[10:37] <bl4cktone> Cheap pci video cards can be found at your local flea market
[10:37] <Choubaka> newbie: If you have a 9200, use the open source drivers.
[10:37] <pepsi> ChurcH_of_FoamY, seriously.. you know the type.. "i got a video card last week, but theres a new one.. so i got it"
[10:38] <Choubaka> newbie: choose "radeon" from xorg configuration
[10:38] <Razor-X> bl4cktone: not only is it not displaying the damn image, it's saying the last line is too long (for reasons I can't comprehend) and
[10:38] <bl4cktone> razor-x sorry I'm a n00b myself but I did stay at a holiday in last night
[10:38] <hondje> I have a cheap PCI video card
[10:38] <Razor-X> heh!
[10:38] <hondje> kicks ass
[10:38] <ThE__OnE> what woulld an address of something in my home folder be?
[10:38] <michael__> (off topic) does anyone know what theme this is? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Xchat.png
[10:38] <pepsi> uh
[10:38] <newbie> Choubaka: I tried all the best solution but Im ending using the default setup of ubuntu to X server...
[10:38] <Choubaka> newbie: You get 3d acceleration, and best of all, without any non-free driver crap.
[10:39] <newbie> to run X server*
[10:39] <thoreauputic> ThE__OnE:  /home/you/filename ?
[10:39] <popeyeray> ubuntu
[10:39] <bl4cktone> ubuntu!
[10:39] <Choubaka> newbie: can you post your xorg.conf somewhere?
[10:39] <newbie> nope right now?
[10:39] <bl4cktone> oh no here comes spam action
[10:39] <signius> wow that echelon really is stealth stuff was in and out of here and nobody knew LMAO
[10:39] <bl4cktone> xorg.conf all over the place
[10:39] <ThE__OnE> i think tht but it says cant find it
[10:40] <newbie> but the problem lies on input mice...
[10:40] <ThE__OnE> /home/mojojojo/.xchat/weather.pl
[10:40] <ThE__OnE> is that correct?
[10:40] <Razor-X> well....
[10:40] <Razor-X> the fonts come out perfect in eterm
[10:40] <thoreauputic> ThE__OnE: probably .xchat2
[10:40] <Razor-X> but A) my image isn't working!
[10:40] <ThE__OnE> heh
[10:40] <Razor-X> B) the fonts are too damned small!
[10:40] <ompaul> michael__, settings - preferences - colours will achieve the same output - unless you want to change your gnome theme :-)
[10:40] <Razor-X> mother f*cker
[10:41] <ompaul> michael__, I suspect it comes from the desktop mangler
[10:41] <bl4cktone> razor-x hmm eterm looks kinda cool
[10:42] <unreal> hrm
[10:43] <Razor-X> bl4cktone: yeah, but the reason i'm switching Terminals is for _total_ control
[10:46] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: for total control install aterm and read man aterm ;)
[10:48] <hondje> thoreauputic: aterm is still around?1
[10:48] <thoreauputic> yup
[10:48] <hondje> wow
[10:48] <hondje> any updates in the last, like 3 years?
[10:48] <thoreauputic> hondje: so is rxvt ;)
[10:48] <hondje> hehe
[10:48] <thoreauputic> hondje: don't know about updates
[10:48] <hondje> and some people still prefer xterm
[10:48] <thoreauputic> xterm is OK
[10:49] <unreal> heh
[10:49] <unreal> thor/hondje: you have any ideas? (sorry to interupt :p)
[10:49] <hondje> unreal: ideas? On what?
[10:49] <thoreauputic> hondje: the only downside in aterm is utf8 support
[10:49] <hondje> oh, I need that much
[10:49] <unreal> the mouse, and now the graphics card
[10:49] <unreal> lol
[10:49] <thoreauputic> xterm has it though
[10:49] <hondje> I like gnome term, I don't mind how much ram it sucks up
[10:49] <hondje> unreal: what sorta graphics card?
[10:50] <mae> I have a gig o ram :)
[10:50] <thoreauputic> hondje: what annoys me with gnome-terminal is it's slow to start
[10:50] <unreal> a radeon x740, it detects the name and everything
[10:50] <hondje> mae: And you damn well should use it ;-)
[10:50] <ompaul> mae, use qemu until you don't :-)
[10:50] <mae> hehe
[10:50] <mae> qemu?
[10:50] <hondje> qemu and tun!
[10:50] <hondje> :)
[10:50] <unreal> but when I reboot it says (EE) No devices found, heh
[10:50] <hondje> unreal: what did you do?
[10:50] <hondje> oh, that's not good
[10:50] <mae> what is qemu?
[10:50] <eb0x> mae is a good band
[10:50] <unreal> I didn't do anything :0
[10:51] <hondje> dpkg-reconfigure xorg?
[10:51] <unreal> er :)
[10:51] <newbie> Unreal: still fixing?
[10:51] <unreal> newbie: yup, you fixed yours? heh
[10:51] <newbie> nope
[10:51] <unreal> hondje: yeah, I did the thing thor suggested
[10:51] <bl4cktone> dang unreal been at it for a while
[10:51] <bl4cktone> damn mplayer pos going to kick it
[10:51] <hondje> someone keeps faxing shit
[10:51] <newbie> can  I have a copy of your x.conf for me to analyze?
[10:51] <mae> anyone have the new dual-core amd ch ip?
[10:51] <unreal> lol
[10:52] <mae> opteron
[10:52] <unreal> turn the fax machine off, *cough* :P
[10:52] <ompaul> mae, apt-get install qemu and you can run linux inside of linux - download a live iso and run it withing qemu and you can have an o/s in an o/s
[10:52] <hondje> unreal: someone == someone boss wants to fax
[10:52] <thoreauputic> bl4cktone: sudo apt-get install xine-ui ;)
[10:52] <mae> ompaul: i see
[10:52] <hondje> why 0250 is a good time to fax is beyond me
[10:53] <ompaul> mae and the reason for doing this - test stuff and not get burn't
[10:53] <Echylo> how can I change my default loading window manager?
[10:53] <mae> ic
[10:53] <bl4cktone> thoreauputic thanks man got the video working what do ya know
[10:53] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:53] <ompaul> mae or the real reason - because you can
[10:55] <bl4cktone> so now that mplyaer is locked up how do I close it?
[10:56] <thoreauputic> Echylo: gdm should ask you if you want the current choice as default
[10:56] <unreal> mmm sausage
[10:56] <bl4cktone> mmm eggs
[10:56] <thoreauputic> bl4cktone: killall mplayer
[10:56] <mae> gnome/kde/gnome/kde which one?!
[10:56] <thoreauputic> bl4cktone: or pkill mplayer
[10:56] <unreal> mv black_sausage mah_fat_belly
[10:56] <ompaul> mae, qemu both :-)
[10:57] <newbie> both
[10:57] <ompaul> mae, I use gnome others do too, and some use kde
[10:57] <bl4cktone> pkill worked
[10:57] <newbie> gnome is much faster than kde.
[10:57] <bl4cktone> sweet
[10:57] <newbie> kde has lot of application.
[10:57] <mae> newbie: thats an ignorant statement
[10:57] <bl4cktone> how do I tie xine to firefox?
[10:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i found it to be less easy to use than gnome
[10:58] <newbie> mae: huh?
[10:58] <ompaul> newbie, both of them have the ability to run any applications the other one does (with the exception of the wm :))
[10:59] <thoreauputic> mae: I guess you might cut some slack for someone using a nick like " newbie " ;)
[10:59] <newbie> well, it was just my opinion.
[10:59] <ompaul> newbie, they both have shed loads of stuff to run
[10:59] <unreal> heh
[10:59] <thoreauputic> newbie: people's experiences vary - som ewould say the opposite
[11:00] <newbie> I dont think so...
[11:00] <unreal> depends on the hardware I suppose :p
[11:00] <newbie> gnome does'nt have compiler and office solution..
[11:00] <thoreauputic> newbie: on my box, kde feels quicker - but I prefer fluxbox anyway :)
[11:01] <newbie> me either and use kicker...heh
[11:01] <thoreauputic> newbie: umm - compilers have absolutely nothing to do with desktops
[11:01] <newbie> Kdevelop I mean...
[11:01] <pepsi> i found kde's gui options to be much more plentiful than gnome's, but i dont like that, i want to be able to have a boring, default window setup.. yeah.. i changed the window theme, but no need to get into the fine details with options galore
[11:01] <thoreauputic> newbie: anjuta
[11:02] <newbie> But I like Gconf for gnome?
[11:02] <ompaul> thoreauputic, run gnome and kicker and have fun
[11:02] <newbie> does anyone agree with me...
[11:02] <thoreauputic> ompaul: nah, I'll run fluxbox, aterm and screen ;-)
[11:02] <newbie> gconf like registry in windoze
[11:02] <pepsi> you dont even have to know that gconf exists...but all of kde's options are displayed in a huge jumble
[11:03] <thoreauputic> newbie: the windows registry is a rat's nest of stupid design
[11:03] <ompaul> thoreauputic, you are either (A) sick (B) running a low spec machine (C) conserving clock cycles (D) thoreauputic :)
[11:03] <newbie> lol
[11:04] <pepsi> resource forks are the answer!
[11:04] <bl4cktone> time to drink away my worries
[11:04] <thoreauputic> ompaul: or (E) having a lend of you
[11:04] <newbie> Did someone tried to setup openmosix on Ubuntu?
[11:04] <newbie> successfully
[11:04] <bl4cktone> god it's 4 in the morning wish I was sleeping
[11:04] <ompaul> thoreauputic, I knew I was forgetting the (F) something else :)
[11:04] <newbie> cause thats my problem right now...
[11:05] <thoreauputic> ompaul: or (F) all of the above (G) none of the above ;-)
[11:05] <thoreauputic> heheh
[11:06] <ompaul> thoreauputic, how could you - now I need to use (H)
[11:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> arghhh stupid xp
[11:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[11:06] <ice_1963> how con i change splash screen in gnome ???
[11:07] <newbie> gconf /app/gnome-session/splash
[11:08] <ice_1963> ok thats it
[11:08] <newbie> good for you..
[11:10] <nishart> hola
[11:11] <newbie> hola...
[11:11] <Seveas> aloh
[11:11] <thoreauputic> aloha
[11:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> do you need wine to use cedega or is it the same thing?
[11:11] <Seveas> cedega is an adapted version of wine
[11:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[11:12] <newbie> nope
[11:12] <neilt> can anybody recomend a good graphical bandwidth monitor app ?
[11:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm gonna try this program called grapevine supposed to be good
[11:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and it works with cedega
[11:12] <newbie> wats grapevine anyway
[11:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kinda like point2play but free
[11:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> <--dosen't have ccredit card
[11:13] <newbie> ah...can I have the site?
[11:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> shure one sec
[11:14] <thoreauputic> neilt: gkrellm will do monitoring
[11:14] <Matarese> hi guys
[11:14] <Matarese> i have a question
[11:14] <fetman> newbie: http://www.grapevineproject.org/
[11:14] <newbie> google How to ask the smart way?
[11:14] <Matarese> how can I modify an ubuntu disk? (i want to add some files to it)
[11:14] <newbie> thanks
[11:15] <Matarese> (of course, by copying it to another cd)
[11:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> http://www.mithunc.net/grapevine/
[11:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thats where i got mine from
[11:15] <Matarese> but i don't know how to make it bootable
[11:15] <fetman> newbie: oops, that was someting else
[11:15] <oga> hey... what's up guys
[11:15] <fetman> sry :)
[11:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> newbie here's the link : http://www.mithunc.net/grapevine/
[11:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hope that helps ^_^
[11:16] <oga> i have a problem
[11:16] <newbie> google How to ask the smart way?
[11:16] <Seveas> Matarese, liveCD or install CD?
[11:16] <oga> my PC keeps rebooting and i think it might be the mother board overheating
[11:16] <oga> is there any way to monitor through ubuntu?
[11:16] <Seveas> oga, sure, try gdesklets
[11:16] <Matarese> Seveas: livecd
[11:17] <hondje> oga: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors, install something like gkrellm, and then sudo /etc/init.d/lm-sensors start
[11:17] <Seveas> there are sensor desklets
[11:17] <oga> thanks guys
[11:17] <oga> (or girls)
[11:17] <ompaul> Matarese, have a look at beatrix which is remastered ubuntu
[11:17] <Seveas> Matarese, look at the LiveCDCustomizationHowTo on the wiki
[11:17] <Matarese> thanks a lot
[11:17] <ompaul> newbie, what are you trying to do ?
[11:18] <newbie> huh?
[11:18] <newbie> wat do you mean?
[11:18] <ompaul> newbie, "newbie google How to ask the smart way?"
[11:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[11:19] <newbie> cause some people does'nt know to ask the smart way...read that would help you...
[11:19] <newbie> how to ask*
[11:19] <ThE__OnE> which firewall shuld i get?
[11:19] <ThE__OnE> for ubuntu
[11:19] <hondje> newbie: this isn't the type of chan that berates people for not meeting ESR's standards
[11:19] <ompaul> hondje, but it helps :-)
[11:19] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, a firewall isn't really needed
[11:19] <unreal> argh
[11:19] <hondje> ThE__OnE: there is only one, you want a frontend :) I like firestarter
[11:20] <Seveas> but if you want one, I'd recommend firestarter
[11:20] <hondje> firestarter makes smart rules
[11:20] <mae> sigh.
[11:20] <hondje> me likey
[11:20] <mae> I like shorewall
[11:20] <thoreauputic> mae: so use what you like :)
[11:21] <mae> thoreauputic: well i can integrate wondershaper with it nice and easily.
[11:21] <mae> thoreauputic: it makes it braindead easy to setup nat'ing and such :)
[11:21] <thoreauputic> mae: nice that the choice is there for you, right ?
[11:21] <thoreauputic> mae: right - firestarter makes NAT a one-click deal too
[11:21] <hondje> C'mon, get your GNU/Hippy smile on
[11:21] <mae> thoreauputic: oh don't bore me with this choice crap..
[11:22] <ThE__OnE> ya because someone scanned me
[11:22] <ThE__OnE> and found my open ports
[11:22] <hondje> ThE__OnE: who cares if they're open?
[11:22] <Seveas> hondje, http://yet.another.linux-nerd.com/wp-content/images/ubuntu-love.png
[11:22] <mae> thoreauputic: never used it :) i just have never ran a gui on any server.
[11:22] <hondje> If you're not running a service, they can't do squat :)
[11:22] <ThE__OnE> you mean they cant get in?
[11:22] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, open ports mean you installed a service
[11:22] <Heimdall> hi !
[11:22] <thoreauputic> mae: OK I'll ignore you then - sorry to be so boring
[11:22] <hondje> ThE__OnE: if they could, it'd be major news
[11:22] <Seveas> and that must mean you want these ports to be open :)
[11:23] <hondje> Seveas: haha, nice one
[11:23] <ThE__OnE> ya butis'nt hacking done throu open ports?
[11:23] <mae> thoreauputic: hehe, don't take offense.. it just irks me when people kill healthy debates with "well thats your choice and i'm glad its working for you"
[11:23] <hondje> ThE__OnE: No
[11:23] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, yes, if they can exploit the service that opens this port...
[11:23] <ThE__OnE> ya
[11:23] <mae> didn't mean to sound rude.. or belittle you in any way.
[11:23] <ThE__OnE> thats what i meant
[11:23] <hondje> They exploit something else
[11:23] <Seveas> but you installed this service yourself
[11:23] <hondje> Or they put stuff in /dev/shm!!!
[11:23] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, which ports exactly were found open?
[11:24] <ThE__OnE> dont remember exactly
[11:24] <hondje> ThE__OnE: you running any servers? ftp, ssh?
[11:24] <ThE__OnE> nope
[11:24] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, or simply apache
[11:24] <hondje> Seveas: drugs at a time like this? remount /dev/shm noexec, man!!!
[11:24] <Seveas> or enabled remote desktop...
[11:24] <ThE__OnE> ya
[11:24] <ThE__OnE> remote desktop was enabled
[11:25] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, if ports are open, YOU have opened them...
[11:25] <ThE__OnE> not now thou
[11:25] <hondje> what's that remote desktop thing?
[11:25] <cyphase> VNC?
[11:25] <Seveas> hondje, vino
[11:25] <hondje> I don't get it
[11:25] <Seveas> a vnc server
[11:25] <hondje> so people watch your desktop?
[11:25] <ompaul> mae, fundemental to the ability to use Linux is the ability to choose the solution that you need, if you need less than the person beside you or more you can do that
[11:25] <cyphase> if they have the password
[11:25] <Seveas> hondje, watch and/or control if you allow them to
[11:25] <ThE__OnE> yup
[11:25] <hondje> Seveas: oh, could be useful
[11:25] <ThE__OnE> i had a few people do that
[11:26] <Seveas> that's so much better
[11:26] <ompaul> mae, without that you might as well get closed source software
[11:26] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, try netstat -t -l to see which ports are open
[11:26] <Seveas> and ignore all that have localhost in it
[11:26] <ompaul> unreal, the south pole has more penguins and less polar bears
[11:26] <ThE__OnE> wow
[11:26] <ThE__OnE> me like linux
[11:26] <mae> ompaul: it's not that i disagree, I just think the choice thing is an overused cliche in the Opensource world.. sure you use what the best choice is, and one size does not fit all.. but there is also quite a bit of overlap and sometimes one _good_ choice would be better than three _so-so_ choices.. :)
[11:26] <ThE__OnE> already
[11:26] <bob2> if I ever meet the person who invented the phrase "open ports", I will bludgeon them to death with a phone book
[11:27] <unreal> ompaul: the south pole doesn't have midgets and a fat man in a red suit :P
[11:27] <newbie> lol
[11:27] <hondje> bob2: probably was a sailor
[11:27] <hondje> That or Gibson
[11:27] <bob2> or that gibson idiot
[11:27] <bob2> hah
[11:27] <ThE__OnE> well
[11:27] <hondje> :-D
[11:27] <ThE__OnE> basically what i want to firewall is for that if someone pings me, iam not online
[11:27] <bob2> ThE__OnE: you do know that is utterly pointless, right?
[11:28] <Seveas> bob2, well nmap shows as state 'open' too :)
[11:28] <Matarese> Seveas: in that document they are talking isolinux/boot.cat and isolinux/isolinux.bin but I don't have those files
[11:28] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, you know that that is useless and breaking quite a bit of RFC's right?
[11:28] <Matarese> I have base/boot.cat
[11:28] <bob2> Fyodor is on my list, too
[11:28] <hondje> bob2: Fyodor's on your spastic ranter list?
[11:28] <unreal> newbie: you got anywhere with you-know-what? :)
[11:28] <ThE__OnE> RFD's?
[11:29] <Seveas> bob2, heh, so must be the writers of the TCP rfc :)
[11:29] <hondje> oh, I got it
[11:29] <hondje> Lets put Gibson, DJB and Theo in a room together
[11:29] <_alex> is there a 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[11:29] <Seveas> _alex, yes
[11:29] <bob2> _alex: if you mean "amd64", yes
[11:29] <ThE__OnE> so if someone has my ip, they cant do nothing to it? not even ddos it?
[11:29] <_alex> thank you
[11:29] <hondje> ThE__OnE: you can't stop a ddos
[11:29] <bob2> ThE__OnE: of course they can ddos it
[11:29] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, they can also ddos you if you disable ping replys...
[11:29] <bob2> ThE__OnE: you can't do anything at all to prevent that, firewall or no
[11:30] <ThE__OnE> oh
[11:30] <hondje> 5 gbps ddos power :(
[11:30] <ThE__OnE> i was uder the idea that firewall can stop it for an extent
[11:30] <bob2> no
[11:30] <bob2> not at all
[11:30] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, nope
[11:30] <ThE__OnE> ahh i see
[11:30] <hondje> well, syncookies is good
[11:30] <hondje> but that only stops one of 10,000 attacks
[11:31] <ThE__OnE> lol
[11:31] <bob2> ThE__OnE: all a firewall can do is throw away packets.  they can still throw 1.5mbit/s down your dsl line and drown out everything else.
[11:31] <ThE__OnE> yikes
[11:31] <bob2> (or however much bandwidth you have)
[11:31] <ThE__OnE> how do i uninstall? sudo install --uninstall firestarter?
[11:31] <bob2> yeah
[11:31] <ThE__OnE> oooops
[11:31] <Seveas> sudo aptitude purge firestarter
[11:31] <ThE__OnE> how do i uninstall? sudo apt-get install --uninstall firestarter?
[11:31] <hondje> sudo apt-get remove --purge firestarter
[11:32] <bob2> well, sudo apt-get remove firtarter
[11:32] <Choubaka> :P
[11:32] <hondje> use purge on it, or else the initscript might stay
[11:32] <ThE__OnE> thx
[11:32] <ThE__OnE> great info
[11:32] <hondje> do rca lyras mount in linux?
[11:33] <ThE__OnE> Seveas ThE__OnE, you know that that is useless and breaking quite a bit of RFC's right? <<>>what are RFC's?
[11:33] <hondje> it's a CF reader, recorder, mp3 playing usb hdd...even mounts using the usbstorage mod
[11:34] <bob2> hondje: g-v-m even mounts my iaudio as /media/IAUDIO/ automatically
[11:34] <thoreauputic> ThE__OnE: Requests For Comment - sort of internet standards
[11:34] <hondje> bob2: oh, kick ass...my brother is coming by tomorrow, I'm going to buntu him up
[11:34] <hondje> Tired of him crying about spyware
[11:34] <bob2> hehe
[11:35] <ThE__OnE> ahh ok
[11:35] <ThE__OnE> =)
[11:35] <Matarese> so, any clue how to make a warty livecd bootable?
[11:35] <thoreauputic> Matarese: umm - it already is, by definition: what do you actually mean?
[11:36] <ompaul> thoreauputic,  Matarese is trying to remaster a CD
[11:36] <thoreauputic> ah I see :)
[11:36] <Matarese> thoreauputic: I copied it to harddisk, mounted as loopback, added some files and I want to write it back on a bootable cd
[11:36] <thoreauputic> Matarese: right, sorry my mistake
[11:36] <Matarese> but I don't know what to pass for boot_image to mkisofs
[11:36] <newbie> matarese: google LFS hints howto make livecd
[11:36] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, the internet standards say that you must reply to an incoming ICMP request (aka ping)
[11:37] <hondje> Damn the Icmp man :(
[11:37] <Seveas> Matarese, warty livecd's are obsolete
[11:38] <Heimdall> is there a graphical tool to configure my network card in ubuntu ?
[11:38] <Seveas> use the Hoary livecd
[11:38] <Seveas> it's much easier to remaster
[11:38] <cyphase> Heimdall, yes
[11:38] <Matarese> Seveas: it's what I have here, and I don't have the time to download a 600MB image now
[11:38] <cyphase> Heimdall, System -> Administration -> Networking
[11:38] <Matarese> or another question
[11:38] <Seveas> Matarese, well, good luck that, go to the knoppix/morphix website and try to find info there
[11:39] <Heimdall> cyphase : hum no, this is to configure the network, but I want to configure my device
[11:39] <Matarese> is there any way that I can unmount the livecd if I booted from it?
[11:39] <Seveas> Heimdall, what do you mean with 'configure the device'?
[11:39] <hondje> Matarese: paperclip?
[11:39] <cyphase> Heimdall, what do you need to configure?
[11:40] <zever> Heimdall /usr/bin/network-admin
[11:40] <Heimdall> Seveas, cyphase : I don't really know, it seems that my card is not working since ubuntu is telling me that eth0 is not connected
[11:40] <Seveas> Heimdall, wired or wireless?
[11:40] <Heimdall> wired
[11:41] <cyphase> Heimdall, System -> Administration -> Networking will do it
[11:41] <cyphase> that configures the device
[11:41] <Seveas> Heimdall, then the networking thing will do it..
[11:41] <Heimdall> but I did it
[11:41] <stjepan> hi
[11:41] <ThE__OnE> so you guys using irssi or xchat?
[11:41] <stjepan> how can I edit list of window managers at login?
[11:41] <cyphase> then the card isn't supported (unlikely), or your doing something wrong
[11:41] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, some use irssi, some xchat :)
[11:41] <cyphase> ThE__OnE, xchat
[11:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> <--xchat
[11:41] <stjepan> I want to add a window manager
[11:41] <jobli> xchat
[11:41] <Seveas> Heimdall, in the terminal type: sudo mii-diag eth0
[11:41] <stjepan> in what file is it?
[11:42] <ThE__OnE> wow
[11:42] <ThE__OnE> soo many xchat
[11:42] <Seveas> and see whether it says 'You hav link beat'
[11:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hey has anyone tryed this 3d desktop thingy?
[11:42] <jnoreiko> hi
[11:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> for ubuntu?
[11:42] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, is massively unstable :|
[11:42] <cyphase> ThE__OnE, soo many didn't answer
[11:42] <cyphase> ;)
[11:42] <ThE__OnE> is there any way to get the whole window transparent like irssi?
[11:42] <Heimdall> Seveas, cyphase : you can look at this : http://nico.aunai.free.fr/tmp/RES.TXT
[11:42] <jnoreiko> does anyone know anything about networking ubuntu & OS X?
[11:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok thanx for the warning
[11:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i was gonna try it but i like my system stable
[11:42] <jnoreiko> I have my powerbook and PC hooked up with an ethernet cable, but they're not seeing each other
[11:42] <hondje> jnoreiko: oh, I do!
[11:42] <stjepan> a?
[11:42] <stjepan> so?
[11:42] <Seveas> Heimdall, you have no IP address, have you enabled DHCP or set a static address?
[11:43] <hondje> jnoreiko: use either samba or nfs, obth work great
[11:43] <Heimdall> static
[11:43] <Matarese> aha! found it!
[11:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> you need a crossover cable to do that
[11:43] <Seveas> Heimdall, then you forgot to set the IP address :)
[11:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's just like a regular ethernet cable but the
[11:43] <bob2> jnoreiko: you'd need to setup ip addresses for them, unles you configured zeroconf on the ubuntu side
[11:43] <jnoreiko> powerbook ethernet does the crossover thing automagically
[11:43] <bob2> ChurcH_of_FoamY: not with mac (or ibm) laptops
[11:43] <Heimdall> Seveas : no
[11:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> pin configuration is diffrent
[11:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> really?
[11:43] <bob2> yes
[11:43] <Heimdall> Seveas : 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0
[11:43] <jnoreiko> my mac is set to be 1.1.1.1, and I've just told Ubuntu to be 1.1.1.2 ...
[11:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i had one hell of a time getting my 2 computers to speak with just a regular cat 5
[11:44] <Seveas> Heimdall, set it in the networking applet
[11:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i had to get a speacal cable to do it
[11:44] <Seveas> because the output you give says that you haven't set it..
[11:44] <bob2> ChurcH_of_FoamY: yes, other computers need it
[11:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how do you do it with just a regular cat5 then
[11:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[11:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i see
[11:44] <hondje> use plip!
[11:44] <bob2> jnoreiko: does the ubuntu machine have a route to the mac one?
[11:44] <Heimdall> Seveas : in system, admin, networking ?
[11:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's that "mac is better than pc" thing ^_^
[11:44] <jnoreiko> aha!
[11:44] <Seveas> Heimdall, yes...
[11:45] <jnoreiko> it works :)
[11:45] <Heimdall> Seveas : I did it
[11:45] <hondje> I think I'm the one guy in the world that got plip, linux, and windowsME working together :D
[11:45] <jnoreiko> I just did connect to smb://1.1.1.2
[11:45] <mcquaid> plip?
[11:45] <Seveas> Heimdall, and have you hit the activate button too?
[11:45] <jnoreiko> it wasn't showing in OS X's network browser though
[11:45] <Heimdall> Seveas : it is telling me that eth0 is active
[11:45] <ThE__OnE> is there any way to get the whole window transparent like irssi? no right?
[11:45] <thoreauputic_> who was asking about adding windowmanagers? The files you want are in /usr/share/xsessions
[11:45] <kcburyshaker> oh man   all these people having problems...and here i am ...having just installed ubuntu last night and just wanting to say i love it
[11:45] <Seveas> Heimdall, and the properties tell you it's configured and has the right IP address?
[11:45] <stjepan> oh
[11:45] <stjepan> help
[11:46] <hondje> mcquaid: network w/ parallel cables and stuff like that
[11:46] <jnoreiko> thanks :)
[11:46] <Heimdall> Seveas : but the little icon in the right top of the screen is telling me that eth0 is disconnected
[11:46] <hondje> oh, time to work!
[11:46] <mcquaid> ah
[11:46] <Seveas> Heimdall, in the terminal type: sudo mii-diag eth0
[11:46] <Seveas> and see whether it says 'You hav link beat'
[11:46] <thoreauputic_> stjepan: was it you asking about wm stuff ?
[11:46] <Heimdall> I did, wait I'll show you
[11:46] <ThE__OnE> kcburyshaker, most of the people have problems with linux, not ubuntu, since their new to linux like me
[11:46] <kcburyshaker> as am i
[11:46] <kcburyshaker> linux is totally new to me
[11:47] <kcburyshaker> but im liking what i see so far
[11:47] <ThE__OnE> like a day new?
[11:47] <kcburyshaker> yes
[11:47] <Seveas> kcburyshaker, welcome aboard the Ubuntu ship then :)
[11:47] <Heimdall> Seveas : http://nico.aunai.free.fr/tmp/RES2.TXT
[11:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubuntu is the linux newbs heavin ^_^
[11:47] <ThE__OnE> join the club
[11:47] <stjepan> thoreauputic: yes
[11:47] <Seveas> Heimdall, there's something wrong with the physical connection
[11:47] <Seveas> fix that first
[11:47] <Heimdall> Seveas : and this too : http://nico.aunai.free.fr/tmp/RES.TXT
[11:47] <ThE__OnE> ok i installed the program gift, where do i find it?
[11:48] <kcburyshaker> took me a bit to figure out i had to install some stuff on my own...but once i got to the right page  (the ubuntuguide FAQ)  i was allright
[11:48] <Heimdall> Seveas ; what do you mean the "physical connection" ?
[11:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there another way to get flash 7?
[11:48] <Seveas> Heimdall, if you have multiple network cards (like an onboard one and a real card or two real cards) check whether it's conencted to the right socket
[11:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it seems the repo version has broken sound :(
[11:48] <Seveas> Heimdall, i mean the cable
[11:48] <Seveas> Heimdall, the cable is broken or not connected well...
[11:49] <mcquaid> some things i don't agree with in the ubuntuguide, like adding marrilat sources, esp stable,unstable, and testing
[11:49] <thoreauputic> stjepan: have a look in that directory: you should find a gnome.desktop file - use it as a template
[11:49] <mcquaid> whatever sense taht makes
[11:49] <Seveas> otherwise mii-diag would have said "You have link beat" instead of "Link status: not established"
[11:49] <hondje> crap, no work to be done :(
[11:49] <Heimdall> Seveas : well I have only one ethernet card in my laptop, but ubuntu is telling me about two interfaces : Io and eth0
[11:49] <Seveas> mcquaid, ubuntuguide is crap...
[11:49] <Seveas> Heimdall, that's lo
[11:49] <hondje> mcquaid: marillat can be useful, but not the way they present it in that damn guide :(
[11:49] <Heimdall> Seveas : whats io ?
[11:49] <mcquaid> agreed
[11:49] <Seveas> and lo is the loopback interface that provides localhost/127.0.0.1
[11:49] <Seveas> you need that :)
[11:50] <hondje> they need to mention pinning
[11:50] <ThE__OnE> ok i installed the program gift, where do i find it?
[11:50] <kcburyshaker> that guide did get me to install certain needed things
[11:50] <kcburyshaker> so it isnt total crap
[11:50] <Seveas> Heimdall, then check on your router/switch if the cable is connected good...
[11:50] <mcquaid> i've held off on adding marillat, backports has most of it taken care of at this piont
[11:50] <Seveas> kcburyshaker, it gives bad information, no explanations and very suboptimal solutions
[11:50] <Heimdall> Seveas ; it is a direct connection between two computers
[11:50] <Seveas> so, crap :)
[11:50] <kcburyshaker> like java..flash...the multimedia drivers   stuff like that
[11:50] <hondje> mcquaid: the codecs pkg, and the libdivxdecore0/encore0 are all I've needed from there
[11:51] <Seveas> Heimdall, then check it on the other pc and make sure you have a crossover cable...
[11:51] <thoreauputic> mcquaid: backports can cause breakage too, unfortunately
[11:51] <mcquaid> not here so far
[11:51] <hondje> only needed the last two when building transcode from apt-get source
[11:51] <hondje> thoreauputic: but it's Official Breakage now
[11:51] <jnoreiko> is there a simple way to see how much free space there is on all my drives?
[11:51] <thoreauputic> hondje: hah
[11:51] <mcquaid> lol
[11:51] <Seveas> jnoreiko, df -h
[11:51] <hondje> jnoreiko: df -h
[11:51] <mcquaid> transcode is in backports now i believe
[11:51] <hondje> Seveas beats me this time
[11:51] <Seveas> ha, beat ya doggy :p
[11:51] <hondje> mcquaid: I don't use backports, easier to make my own
[11:52] <jnoreiko> cool!
[11:52] <hondje> easier == I don't get paranoid
[11:52] <Seveas> muha :)
[11:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> whats a backport?
[11:52] <ThE__OnE> anyone?
[11:52] <Seveas> and you don't get backport breakage ;)
[11:52] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, dpkg -L gift
[11:52] <hondje> ChurcH_of_FoamY: a real backport is a package made to run on older distros, like using 2.6 kernel in debian woody
[11:52] <Seveas> then you can see where it installed itself
[11:52] <kcburyshaker> is there a site that has a list of all the commands you could use in the terminal?
[11:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok i see
[11:52] <hondje> ChurcH_of_FoamY: ubuntu backports is just repacking
[11:53] <thoreauputic> ThE__OnE: please don't /msg without asking
[11:53] <Seveas> kcburyshaker, rofl, there's too much of them :)
[11:53] <mcquaid> hondje, hwo do you go about making your own?
[11:53] <kcburyshaker> lol
[11:53] <kcburyshaker> thats what i thought
[11:53] <hondje> mcquaid: well, depends on the situation
[11:53] <mcquaid> do you mean from deb srcs, or your making .debs from source?
[11:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone get ubuntu to run on a thinkpad 390E?
[11:53] <Seveas> '
[11:53] <hondje> mcquaid: both
[11:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i found one in the basement and want to use it with ubuntu
[11:53] <hondje> kcburyshaker: I got THE link for you
[11:53] <kcburyshaker> how about a general linux news site  anyone have a good link for that?
[11:54] <hondje> http://www.slashdot.org
[11:54] <kcburyshaker> ok hondje
[11:54] <newbie> tldp.org
[11:54] <hondje> hehe
[11:54] <Seveas> hondje, slashdot isn't about news
[11:54] <mcquaid> i'd really like to learn how to make .debs from source, the deb maintainers guide seemed a little much for me at first glance
[11:54] <Seveas> it's about trolling...
[11:54] <hondje> get all your latest gossip on volkerdings lungs
[11:54] <hondje> Seveas: which fits me well :)
[11:54] <Seveas> :o)
[11:54] <mcquaid> hondje, is there a quick and dirty guide for stuff that compiles without issue?
[11:54] <hondje> mcquaid: really quick and dirty, use checkinstall
[11:54] <mcquaid> ah
[11:54] <hondje> instead of make install
[11:55] <hondje> but checkinstall sucks
[11:55] <thoreauputic> mcquaid: quick and dirty way is with checkinstall - but it isn't the "approved and complete" way
[11:55] <hondje> you can't take those debs and sahre them
[11:55] <newbie> checkinstall really sucks...
[11:55] <mcquaid> i haven't used it in sid but checkinstall crapped out on me a few times
[11:55] <mcquaid> i'd like to knwo the real way
[11:55] <thoreauputic> hondje: I have to take speed typing lessons...
[11:55] <hondje> kcburyshaker: http://www2.hs-harz.de/~bmueller/extern/linuxmanual.pdf "The One Page Linux Manual"
[11:55] <kcburyshaker> http://distrowatch.com/     this is what i was after
[11:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i search and peck lol
[11:55] <thoreauputic> newbie: no, it doesn't suck for personall use
[11:56] <newbie> waaaaaa
[11:56] <hondje> mcquaid: most of what you'd want, you're just taking a pkg from one distro, say etch, and making it hoary-fied...
[11:56] <thoreauputic> newbie: on what basis do you think it sucks?
[11:56] <newbie> thoreauputic: I rather use dpkg-deb
[11:56] <mcquaid> hondje, do you use checkinstall method or you were suggesting that as  a quick way to do it?
[11:56] <hondje> mcquaid: the easy way to do that is to apt-get source the pkg, then build it using something like sudo fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[11:56] <newbie> cause I use to download YAST4debian....
[11:56] <thoreauputic> newbie: of course - but sometimes you want source that isn't in the repos
[11:57] <kcburyshaker> damn  thats a nice little pdf too   thanks hondje
[11:57] <hondje> that'll let you fuss with the rules, control, etc
[11:57] <hondje> kcburyshaker: no problem
[11:57] <newbie> kcburyshaker: Have you tried tldp.org(THe linux doc. proj.)
[11:57] <hondje> mcquaid: but making a deb from just raw source from some project is a fairly complex thing, I'm still learning that one
[11:58] <newbie> It has a lot of howto's and guides as well.
[11:58] <kcburyshaker> ok
[11:58] <hondje> mcquaid: for that, read http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/
[11:58] <hondje> It has a decent quick-start guide
[11:58] <genk0> server.arrakis.es
[11:59] <mcquaid> i'll look that over again
[11:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> found a really nice linux dictionary on pdf
[11:59] <hondje> mcquaid: but back to the important part, the backports stuff just does the repackaging like I was saying
[11:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no i can decipher linux speak
[11:59] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: URL ?
[12:00] <Heimdall_> Seveas : sorry I have been disconnected
[12:00] <hondje> mcquaid: basically add whatever distro's repos, apt-get source it, and get it to build 'well enough'
[12:00] <Heimdall_> as soon as the networked as enabled
[12:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> you know i found it about a moth ago but i can give it to ya if ya want
[12:00] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: no, don't worry - I'll google ;)
[12:00] <mcquaid> ok for ex, say there is something in breezy right now, once i grab the deb src i just fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot?
[12:00] <ThE__OnE> how come the program that i install are'nt apprearing in the Applications tab?
[12:01] <hondje> mcquaid: exactly
[12:01] <mcquaid> ok thx
[12:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's called linux-Dictonary.pdf
[12:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> if that helps
[12:01] <CL4RK> anyone can speak in indonesia lang
[12:01] <hondje> mcquaid: though you probably want to check for dependancies, maybe edit the ./configure options passed in the 'rules' file
[12:01] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: thanks :)
[12:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and theres a really nice one called intro-linux.pdf too
[12:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> welcome
[12:01] <CL4RK> i need help
[12:01] <hondje> mcquaid: oh, helps a TON if you pin your sources right...apt-get build-dep
[12:02] <hondje> mcquaid: that'll build the packages you need to compile your new deb :)
[12:02] <mcquaid> ah cool
[12:02] <hondje> Not that it's any different than what they do, other than I don't suggest ignoring build deps
[12:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how to make mozilla thunderbird the default email client?
[12:03] <hondje> ChurcH_of_FoamY: system -> preferences -> prefered apps
[12:03] <mcquaid> ya i wouldn't agree with ignoring build deps either, they do that?
[12:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok thanx ^_^
[12:03] <hondje> mcquaid: yessir, it's in the how-to starter thing they wrote
[12:03] <newbie> honje: there is a howto in tldp.org which guides you to make debs.
[12:03] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Dictionary/Linux-Dictionary.pdf << this looks like the one ?
[12:03] <hondje> newbie: yeah, I read those once :)  I think the new-maintainer guide is a bit clearer
[12:04] <hondje> thanks for the thought, though!
[12:04] <newbie> ok then...
[12:04] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: woah - 8MB of linux dictionary!!
[12:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> let me check
[12:04] <BoD_SWAT> I've used the 'mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1' command to mount my hd. It doesn't have default write permissions. Any idea why? (it's SATA & linux partition)
[12:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> THE NEW batman rules!
[12:04] <hondje> someday I'll grok it, and become as powerful as bob2
[12:04] <newbie> I uses that guide to makes deb...hehe
[12:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yep thats it
[12:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thats the one ^_^
[12:04] <hondje> newbie: hrm, which one then? I must have missed the really-simple one :)
[12:05] <RickA> has anyone here been able to install the new ATI drivers?
[12:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's really nice it really is like a dictionary
[12:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> BoD_SWAT you didn't give it any.
[12:05] <newbie> the tldp...
[12:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> BoD_SWAT you'd need to have a mask set in the mount command or in /etc/fstab
[12:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[12:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i know theres so much in there
[12:05] <BoD_SWAT> BROKEN_LADDER, thats always needed?
[12:05] <bartekp> BoD_SWAT: -o umask=022
[12:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> BoD_SWAT absolutely.
[12:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i only use it when i can't understand somethings that are said here
[12:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> BoD_SWAT otherwise it will use the default, of course.
[12:06] <BoD_SWAT> BROKEN_LADDER, bartekp thnx, that's all I needed to know  :-)
[12:06] <ThE__OnE> how come the program that i install are'nt apprearing in the Applications tab?
[12:06] <unreal> hondje: I think my graphics card problem is due to the PCI
[12:06] <bartekp> hm, write? umask=000
[12:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> which means it's always open :(
[12:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[12:06] <unreal> tail: cannot open `/var/log/messages' for reading: Permission denied
[12:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> ThE__OnE because that program's installer didn't create one.
[12:06] <unreal> er, wrong window
[12:06] <hondje> unreal: what do you mean?
[12:06] <Heimdall_> I'd like to share files between a distant windows and my ubuntu in an IP network.... without using samba, what do you advise to me ? ftp ?
[12:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> ThE__OnE the files that define those application launchers are in /usr/share/applications
[12:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> ThE__OnE you can use one of them in there as a template file and create your own.
[12:07] <hondje> Heimdall: scp is the bomb :)
[12:07] <unreal> hondje: /var/log/messages throws up "Bad PCI agent invocation"
[12:07] <hondje> Heimdall: install the openssh server on ubuntu, and get winscp for the windows box
[12:07] <Seveas> ...and use ssh keys :)
[12:07] <hondje> unreal: what about /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[12:07] <hondje> yes, keys are sexy
[12:08] <unreal> heh, that log throws up "(EE) No devices detected", etc
[12:08] <hondje> unreal: lspci -vvv | grep ati
[12:08] <newbie> unreal: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-13219.html
[12:09] <RickA> I get:  'No kernel module build environment' error
[12:09] <mcquaid> newbie, talking about this one? http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/index.html
[12:10] <HappyFool> thoreauputic: maybe an uncompressed file?
[12:10] <kcburyshaker> i have a puter that came with "integrated video card"   i bought a cheap nvidia PCI card for it  now with ubuntu   the nvidia card dont work, and it itegrated vid hookup runs better here than it ever did with winxp
[12:10] <hondje> kcburyshaker: irony
[12:10] <thoreauputic> ah rats, it went back to 5 again :(
[12:10] <hondje> kcburyshaker: why doesn't the nvidia work?
[12:10] <HappyFool> i found that downloading the initial few MB of the ubuntu amd iso had a high rate
[12:11] <kcburyshaker> i dunno   i followed the instructions to get it to work in that FAQ to the letter
[12:11] <Heimdall_> but ssh doesn't allow me to share files ?
[12:11] <hondje> Heimdall: use scp
[12:11] <hondje> 'cp' copies, 'scp' does it over ssh, basically
[12:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there a better messenger than gaim?
[12:11] <kcburyshaker> the x server thing and the card dont like each other
[12:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i used this thing called sim but i lost it :(
[12:12] <hondje> kcburyshaker: hrm
[12:12] <jnoreiko> can I mount an ISO file as a volume?
[12:12] <kcburyshaker> hrm?   is that a command?
[12:12] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: yes. you can also 'browse' iso's using nautilus
[12:12] <hondje> kcburyshaker: nah, a sound ;)
[12:12] <Seveas> jnoreiko, yes
[12:12] <kcburyshaker> lol
[12:13] <Heimdall_> hondje : scp allow to send and receive files... not to list etc....
[12:13] <hondje> Heimdall_: sftp is good too, then :)
[12:13] <kcburyshaker> im happy with the way things are now   i dont use the PC for games the nvidia card isnt such a big thing
[12:13] <Heimdall_> hondje hehe
[12:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> for my winbox i use network active webserver
[12:13] <lambert> hello
[12:13] <mcquaid> i tried to setup my bro's box with ubuntu, but his nvidia keeps locking up randomly, i can't figure it out, he gets some type of nvrm error
[12:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's free from www.download.com
[12:13] <hondje> Heimdall_: I try to use openssh as much as I can, since it's so easy to set up, secure, etc
[12:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> really easy ftp server
[12:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> for winboxes
[12:14] <mcquaid> which i've seen mentioned all the time at nvnews.net linux channel but no solution
[12:14] <hondje> mcquaid: cache problem thingie?
[12:14] <Heimdall_> hondje : yes but, I have to create a serve on my linux machine ?
[12:14] <jnoreiko> supposing my ISO file is the Hoary install CD... how to I tell synaptic to update from it?
[12:14] <lambert> +
[12:14] <mcquaid> hondje, yes i believe thats it
[12:14] <kcburyshaker> but ill say this   it was a nice feeling erasing winxp from my hard drive
[12:14] <lobo_nz> CHow can I fix this error from mpg123? - can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?) I've found allot of references to the problem but no solutions.
[12:14] <Seveas> araw1-, please turn that off in here
[12:15] <Heimdall_> there is no ftpd on the ubuntu cd
[12:15] <thoreauputic> lobo_nz: edit /etc/libao.conf or similar, and change the default
[12:15] <masahiro> STILL, I HAVE NO SOUND!!! AAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!!!
[12:15] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: probably easiest to mount the ISO in that case
[12:15] <HappyFool> masahiro: please do not use caps
[12:15] <mcquaid> hondje, do you know a solution to that?
[12:15] <masahiro> im fed up of no sound
[12:16] <hondje> Heimdall_: I _think_ sftpd is sshd
[12:16] <masahiro> and everything i try dosen't work
[12:16] <kcburyshaker> i thought silence was golden
[12:16] <lobo_nz> thoreauputic: what to? oss or alsa?
[12:16] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: you'll need a 'mount point', which is just a directory somewhere; perhaps create a dir in your home directory
[12:16] <hondje> mcquaid: No, try latest drivers and if that doesn't work file bug reports :(
[12:16] <thoreauputic> lobo_nz: I have mine set to oss for instance
[12:16] <Seveas> lol kcburyshaker ;)
[12:16] <masahiro> not on a pc which is a media center pc
[12:16] <Heimdall_> hondje : what ???
[12:16] <thoreauputic> lobo_nz: try either - oss works for me
[12:16] <Heimdall_> it is the same ?
[12:16] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: so, 'mkdir ismount'; then 'sudo mount -o loop ubuntuimg.iso isomount'
[12:16] <lobo_nz> thoreauputic: ok thanks
[12:16] <SteveGrif> anyone know how to get hddtemp to check the temperature of a hard disk without using sudo
[12:16] <SteveGrif> ?
[12:16] <mcquaid> previously he was on mandrake 10, which didn't give him issue with his nvidia card
[12:17] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: oops, that should be 'mkdir isomount'
[12:17] <thoreauputic> lobo_nz: I'm not using esd though (I have dmix set up)
[12:17] <mcquaid> so i was looking at what that came with and it had 2.6.3 and xfree86
[12:17] <masahiro> is there any way of getting a realtek ac '97 onboard chip to work with ubunutu?
[12:17] <hondje> Heimdall_: I could be on crack, but I'm pretty sure it is
[12:17] <mcquaid> i was thinking either xorg or 2.6.10 has something that doesn't agree with his setup
[12:17] <hondje> mcquaid: mdk10 using nv or nvidia driver?
[12:17] <masahiro> before i reformat and go back to windoze
[12:17] <mcquaid> nvidia
[12:17] <hondje> hr
[12:17] <mcquaid> he played q3 and et all the time in it
[12:18] <hondje> mcquaid: I'd give the ones from nvidia's site a sping
[12:18] <hondje> -g
[12:18] <lobo_nz> thoreauputic: its set to esd but my sound works fine except for mpg123, I mean system sounds and xine etc, just not mpg123
[12:18] <thoreauputic> masahiro: ac97 isn't the chip - it's a codec I believe
[12:18] <masahiro> well its compatible anywho
[12:18] <mcquaid> ya i tried a few, even tried compiling the kernel to turn off the rivafb driver
[12:18] <jnoreiko> HappyFool, it says mount: could not find any device /dev/loop#
[12:18] <masahiro> i know its made by realtek and it's onboard
[12:19] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: hmm. you're running warty ?
[12:19] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: i.e., older release of ubuntu ?
[12:19] <jnoreiko> yup, warty
[12:19] <thoreauputic> lobo_nz: I'm just passing on what I did: I wanted cplay to work with mpg123 and ogg123 and that did it for me
[12:19] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: standby
[12:19] <hondje> masahiro: I think I have that sound stuff
[12:19] <lobo_nz> thoreauputic: sweet, will try that
[12:19] <masahiro> how did you get it to work?
[12:19] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: try 'sudo modprobe loop'
[12:19] <hondje> no, mines intel, realtek == onboard network, sorry
[12:19] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: then try the modprobe command again
[12:19] <thoreauputic> lobo_nz: just edit ti - if it doesn't work change it
[12:20] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: sorry , the mount command
[12:20] <masahiro> ah ok
[12:20] <jnoreiko> bingo. thanks, HappyFool :)
[12:20] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: no problem
[12:20] <RickA> how can I uninstall old video drivers?
[12:21] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: i'm not helluva sure if you can use the iso as a repository directly
[12:21] <masahiro> im soon going to switch back to evil, evil micro$oft
[12:21] <masahiro> becayse everything i try fails miserably
[12:21] <jnoreiko> no, I was about to say, I'm not sure Synaptic wants to see it.... never mind, I'll burn the ISO properly
[12:22] <liable> masahiro: well, do that, dont try and think the problem through. :(
[12:22] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: well, it would be interesting to try
[12:22] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: but maybe you'd rather just get it working ;)
[12:22] <masahiro> well everything that i try still dosent work
[12:22] <hondje> liable: that's not a fair statement, I do declare
[12:22] <masahiro> but i think that it isnt detecting the sound chip
[12:22] <jnoreiko> maybe with a file:// URL in the repo list?
[12:22] <hondje> Newbies are very lost in an unfamiliar environment, it's like asking high schoolers to talk about special relativity
[12:22] <jamey3> I want to get a new graphics card, probably a vanilla GeForce 6600. Does anyone have any experience running recent 3D games under Ubuntu?
[12:23] <masahiro> Rephrase: I think that it is not detecting my sound chip.
[12:23] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: maybe. i think apt-get / synaptic also need files called 'Packages.gz' and 'Release', something like that
[12:23] <hondje> masahiro: in a terminal, run lspci -vvv, and find the soundcard part
[12:23] <thoreauputic> hondje: I used to talk about general relativity in high school - does that count ? ;)
[12:23] <hondje> masahiro: then, type /query hondje , and paste it to me in the new tab
[12:23] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: oh, wait, those files are in the dists directory
[12:23] <hondje> thoreauputic: No, you also run linux :)
[12:24] <thoreauputic> heheh
[12:24] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: try file:///home/jnoreiko/isomount hoary main restricted     and see if it finds anything
[12:25] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: that is,  'deb file:///home/jnoreiko/isomount   hoary main restricted'
[12:25] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: and comment out all the warty entries
[12:25] <unreal> blag, mouse still doesn't work
[12:26] <liable> masahiro: ok, whats 'lspci |grep audio' say?
[12:26] <liable> sudo even
[12:26] <tombs> hi ppl
[12:27] <liable> masahiro: in your post you tried to modprobe without using sudo
[12:27] <jnoreiko> I've added the mount in Synaptic, and refreshed. seems to work
[12:27] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: cool
[12:28] <jnoreiko> lots of packages are marked as upgradable, and have HOary listed in available versions
[12:28] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: you'll need to do a 'smart upgrade'
[12:28] <jnoreiko> what's that?
[12:28] <liable> masahiro: whats 'sudo lsmod' show?
[12:28] <XRoader> Hi, I'm trying to configure XMMS but when, the terminal tells me: "GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed" but having searched this on Google I think I discovered it is actually installed, does anybody know what I can do to make Ubuntu know Glib is installed
[12:28] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: um, equivalent to 'apt-get dist-upgrade'  --- it's what you use to upgrade to a new release
[12:29] <XRoader> but when I try, the terminal tells me*
[12:29] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: i'm not sure of the precise difference ;)
[12:29] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: i think you should be prompted for a 'normal' or 'smart' upgrade when you click 'Apply'
[12:30] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: if you're not, look in 'Settings -> Preferences' to enable prompting
[12:30] <topyli> everything cool seems to be Mono these days
[12:31] <topyli> tis weird
[12:31] <thoreauputic> XRoader: not sure what you are doing, but sounds like you got xmms from some non-Ubuntu source?
[12:31] <XRoader> yes, their website
[12:31] <thoreauputic> XRoader: or a plugin or something...
[12:31] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: good luck. bbiab
[12:31] <thoreauputic> XRoader: ah - don't do that then
[12:31] <jnoreiko> thanks for your help, HappyFool :)
[12:31] <thoreauputic> XRoader: xmms is in the universe repository I believe
[12:32] <XRoader> I've tried searching for it on the synaptic package manager (after enabling the universal section) but I cannot seem to find the right XMMS file
[12:32] <p-h-i> yes
[12:32] <XRoader> theres so many packages and I cannot seem to find the one which applies to me
[12:32] <topyli> xmms reminds me of the 80s :)
[12:32] <thoreauputic> XRoader: apt-cache search xmms ; choose ; sudoapt-get install xmms
[12:32] <thoreauputic> * sudo apt-get install
[12:33] <thoreauputic> XRoader: it's just xmms afaik
[12:33] <XRoader> Thanks :)
[12:33] <mcquaid> XRoader, thats weird xmms is giving u issues, should work without a problem, but have you tried beep media player instead?
[12:33] <thoreauputic> XRoader: apt-cache search can be much quicker than opening synaptic
[12:33] <mcquaid> it's just like xmms but intergrates better with gnome
[12:33] <XRoader> Could you recommend me a website or book which will teach me these things, or at least the fundamentals behind it
[12:34] <thoreauputic> mcquaid: he installed from a third party
[12:34] <mcquaid> ah
[12:34] <mcquaid> doh
[12:34] <XRoader> mcquaid: I've never heard of beep to be honest, I'll check it out if I cannot get XMMS working from this
[12:34] <thoreauputic> !faq
[12:34] <ubotu> thoreauputic: Bugger all, i dunno
[12:34] <thoreauputic> rats
[12:34] <topyli> XRoader: beep is the same thing, except uses the gtk2 toolkit
[12:35] <XRoader> I see, I really should read a book which tells what gtk2 is :P
[12:35] <topyli> heh
[12:35] <topyli> XRoader: it's a graphics toolkit that gnome is based on
[12:35] <thoreauputic> XRoader: good starting point: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/
[12:36] <XRoader> Thanks both of you :)
[12:37] <thoreauputic> XRoader: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com//
[12:37] <thoreauputic> XRoader: lots of stuff on the wiki
[12:37] <XRoader> Thanks, do you recommend I buy Linux in a Nutshell?
[12:38] <XRoader> or is that not required since I've not got those websites bookmarked
[12:38] <XRoader> now*
[12:38] <thoreauputic> XRoader: as a start, i'd aim a bit lower and read http://tuxfiles.org
[12:38] <GNULinuxer> XRoader, linux in a nutshell is not ubuntu specific
[12:38] <topyli> XRoader: some people like books, personally i've been ok with the web
[12:38] <thoreauputic> XRoader: linux in a nutshell is also a bit... well - a big nutshell ;)
[12:39] <hondje> I've found the best way to learn is to find smart people and listen to them help others
[12:39] <XRoader> thoreauputic: Right, thanks, I'll bookmark that too
[12:39] <hondje> Or browse help forums, like linuxquestions or the ATU forum at broadbandreports
[12:39] <Seveas> hondje, so that's why you habg out here :)
[12:39] <thoreauputic> tuxfiles is a good intro to the commands
[12:39] <XRoader> gnulinuxer: I know but I was thinking I should learn the Linux fundmanetals before learning specifics
[12:39] <hondje> Seveas: No, I hang out here because I feel smart ;-)
[12:39] <Seveas> hondje, ewww
[12:39] <Seveas> misconception :)
[12:39] <kcburyshaker> ive also tried the book thing.....but i have found that these IRC rooms are a greater help than any book could be
[12:39] <XRoader> topyli: I don't know why but I hate reading guides online, I must print them off, shame...
[12:39] <GNULinuxer> XRoader, you mean you don't know the fundamentals?
[12:39] <topyli> XRoader: http://www.debian.org/doc/ too. most of it applies to ubuntu
[12:40] <thoreauputic> XRoader: be aware if you buy books, a  lot of them are Redhat/Fedora based
[12:40] <hondje> where else can I actually contribute, #debian? :D
[12:40] <GNULinuxer> XRoader, in that case, you might want to try "Debian GNU/Linux 3.x Bible"
[12:40] <XRoader> GNULinuxer: Nope :( Did I rush into installing Linux since I don't know the basics?
[12:40] <thoreauputic> XRoader: which will just confuse the issue if you use Ubuntu
[12:40] <topyli> XRoader: no! jump right in :)
[12:40] <ompaul> thoreauputic, well you can get dtbian gnu/linux by hunger
[12:40] <kcburyshaker> how can i tell if firestarter is running or not?
[12:41] <BockBilbo> hello
[12:41] <XRoader> I've been referred to so many guides by the time I've read them I'll be able to code my own distro in pure binary :O
[12:41] <ompaul> thoreauputic, spelt debian :-)
[12:41] <Seveas> hondje, well, sonce you like trolling, #debian isn't the worst place
[12:41] <Seveas> :)
[12:41] <BockBilbo> can anyone tell me how to check the usage of the HD in shell?
[12:41] <GNULinuxer> kcburyshaker, firestarter is just a frontend to iptables
[12:41] <thoreauputic> ompaul: I'm lagging here...
[12:41] <hondje> if/when masahiro comes back, let him know modprove snd-intel8x0 might work
[12:41] <Seveas> BockBilbo, df -h
[12:41] <kcburyshaker> i thought it was a firewall
[12:41] <hondje> Seveas: I demand quality, sir!
[12:41] <ompaul> thoreauputic, not that badly
[12:41] <GNULinuxer> kcburyshaker, do sudo iptables -L, and if you see some rules, you know it's running
[12:41] <Seveas> kcburyshaker, the firewall itself is part of the kernel
[12:41] <topyli> kcburyshaker: it doesn't really run. it just applies iptables rules to the kernel
[12:41] <BockBilbo> thanks Seveas
[12:42] <thoreauputic> ompaul: back to one second now
[12:42] <GNULinuxer> kcburyshaker, the firewall is in the kernel
[12:42] <hondje> Seveas: Like today, I sent some poor newbie (2 months or so) off to set up x font server by hand :D
[12:42] <kcburyshaker> ok
[12:42] <Seveas> hondje, you big bastard...
[12:42] <hondje> That, sir, is art
[12:42] <hondje> Seveas: hey, he really wanted it to work :)
[12:42] <Seveas> I should kick you :)
[12:42] <hondje> I'd deserve it
[12:42] <kong0> hello everyone
[12:42] <unreal> everyone kick hondje :)
[12:42] <hondje> But hey, fixing xfs in mdk 8 taught me tons!
[12:42] <tylerdd> please
[12:43] <hondje> Like, that xfs was evil, and wrong
[12:43] <Seveas> :)
[12:43] <tylerdd> how i can configured my ra0
[12:43] <tylerdd> ?
[12:43] <tylerdd> /etc/network/interfaces?????
[12:43] <ompaul> hondje, xfs is and always has been 'special' in a not nice way
[12:43] <Seveas> tylerdd, ra0..?
[12:43] <XRoader> Alright, thanks to everybody for the help, I'm going to have to log so, I'll print/read those guides ASAP
[12:43] <tylerdd> yes
[12:43] <hondje> hah, I'm female :p
[12:43] <tylerdd> is my wireless tarjet
[12:43] <hondje> ompaul: yeah, and having to use it really bites :(
[12:44] <tylerdd> Seveas
[12:44] <Seveas> tylerdd, ewww, that awful stuff
[12:44] <kong0> i always have a problem believing ppl who says they are female over the net....
[12:44] <tylerdd> ?
[12:44] <Seveas> tylerdd, try /etc/network/interfaces
[12:44] <tylerdd> and here
[12:44] <tylerdd> ?
[12:44] <Seveas> or simply test with ifconfig/dhclient
[12:44] <hondje> kong0: Good, I'm not :)
[12:44] <thoreauputic> kong0: especially when their name is Thomm ;)
[12:44] <Seveas> tylerdd, man interfaces
[12:44] <hondje> thoreauputic: that's the easy way out ;-)
[12:44] <podge> kong0: Depends if you are trying to pick them up or not..
[12:45] <liable> kong0: awww c'mon, i'm seventeen blond girl, wanna meet. :)
[12:45] <kong0> well theres when my ambition goes out :P never feels like checking them up...
[12:45] <ompaul> podge, everyone can picked up, you just have to have what they want
[12:45] <hondje> My chan keep getting real females though, it's odd
[12:45] <hondje> youd think the rampant misogyny would chase them away
[12:45] <podge> ompaul: Ha.. yep.. and they want Ubuntu Linux? :)
[12:46] <ompaul> podge, some do
[12:46] <thoreauputic> hondje: masochist females perhaps ?
[12:46] <hondje> thoreauputic: perhaps, or ones that see through our comments and realize we're all just sad, insecure nerds
[12:46] <Echylo> hey podge :D
[12:46] <Echylo> thanks again for your renaming prog, the work was done in 15 minutes :D
[12:46] <hondje> The way I figure, my SO can use apt-get, and that's priceless in a woman :)
[12:46] <topyli> we need more girls!
[12:47] <podge> ompaul: An 18 y/o hot blonde wants Ubuntu? nice! :)
[12:47] <Echylo> I can disguise myself ^
[12:47] <kong0> is it better to have ubuntu in english or in your won language?
[12:47] <hondje> kong0: go with your own :)
[12:47] <podge> Echylo: Howdy..
[12:47] <kestas> does anyone here have any experience with NFS?
[12:47] <kestas> http://pastebin.com/301742
[12:47] <Echylo> :)
[12:47] <hondje> kestas: sure, what's up?
[12:47] <kestas> I cant figure out why I'm getting access denied
[12:47] <ompaul> podge, and for you she just wants it on her hard drive
[12:47] <topyli> kong0: it depends on the quality of the translations
[12:47] <kong0> nahh im asking help every second and i get the replys on english....
[12:47] <jnoreiko> I'm off to upgrade to hoary. wish me luck!
[12:47] <zerokills> good luck
[12:48] <Echylo> kong0, go to english, your own language will be probably funny
[12:48] <Echylo> it is in mine
[12:48] <kong0> so it should be easier to find them if they were english
[12:48] <podge> maybe we need #ubuntu-chicks :)
[12:48] <hondje> podge: they already have their own place in the forums ;-)
[12:48] <kong0> actually i think this is a good translation...
[12:48] <topyli> kong0: i prefer english because otherwise i get weird localized interfaces, with bits of english mixed in :)
[12:48] <kong0> however apps is named orgram here.
[12:49] <kestas> hondje: http://pastebin.com/301742 has the only info which I know is applicable
[12:49] <kong0> ops sry that was wrong of me, program
[12:49] <hondje> That's wierd...the korean localization stuff seems top-notch
[12:49] <hondje> go figure
[12:49] <donutface> I have a HP Pavilion ZV6000 laptop, and its keyboard doesnt work during ubuntu install, this does work under suse. any way i can get it working on ubuntu 4.10?
[12:49] <Echylo> what about implenting make up in ubuntu? it would attract some girls?
[12:49] <topyli> hondje: localization quality varies a lot
[12:49] <kong0> thats true i generally have one bytton in swedish and another in english :P
[12:49] <Echylo> and integrating mirrors in it
[12:50] <Echylo> (hides for girl throwing rocks)
[12:50] <Seveas> Echylo, it's there already: KDE
[12:50] <topyli> hehe
[12:50] <kong0> is kde like windoes?
[12:50] <Echylo> Seveas, ?
[12:50] <topyli> kong0: it's not that bad
[12:50] <Myrtti> /me gets her rocks and stones
[12:51] <thoreauputic> Hi Myrtti  :)
[12:51] <kong0> I've just seen a picture of it and saw the resemblance
[12:51] <ompaul> kestas, you actually have a /home tmp/ on the machine?
[12:51] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: give 'em hell ;)
[12:51] <kestas> ompaul: I have /home on freebsd, and /mnt/tmp on ubuntu
[12:51] <topyli> kong0: they say kde is like windows, gnome is like mac. it's an oversimplification but there you go :)
[12:52] <ompaul> kestas,  /home /mnt/tmp/  might help but no expert
[12:52] <Myrtti> well actually, I suggest Ubuntu to everyone, regardless of their sex
[12:52] <Echylo> well we make "lolabuntu", we make a lot of maps with make up in, we integrate a mirror on the desktop, ofcourse skype is installed
[12:52] <kestas> ompaul: nope fraid not
[12:52] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: of course :)
[12:52] <Myrtti> but especially to Linux newbies, and most women are such
[12:52] <topyli> Myrtti: "linux for humans"
[12:52] <kong0> actually i'd say mac is like gnome since mac OS X is built on unix..or at least the kernel...
[12:52] <Myrtti> topyli: indeed
[12:52] <kcburyshaker> im a linux newbie   this is my 2nd day under linux
[12:52] <kong0> same here:P
[12:52] <hyphenated> Echylo: yeah, it'd be nice if skype set up a repo, so that updates could be gotten automatically
[12:52] <lsuactiafner> anyone know how many simultaneous connections a user opens when he browses compared to having a p2p app on?
[12:53] <hondje> kestas: does the server have portmap running?
[12:53] <hyphenated> lsuactiafner: uh.. 1 compared to 20?
[12:53] <hyphenated> lsuactiafner: netstat --inet -np should tell all you need to know
[12:53] <kestas> hondje: apparently portmap functionality has been replaced with rpcbind in FreeBSD 5.X
[12:53] <kestas> and I do have rpcbind running
[12:54] <hondje> kestas: oh, I'm totally unhip w/ FBSD
[12:54] <hondje> All I know is that it's dying :-/ Can't help you today
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> hyphenated yeh as in 1:20
[12:54] <kestas> hondje: I thought freebsd was more popular than ever?
[12:54] <progen77> Hi, I'm having some troubles browsing shares on windows machines on my home network. Nautilus keeps popping up asking for a user name and password. Guest accounts are enabled on all machines but they wont take "guest" (or any other valid username for that matter) Any ideas?
[12:54] <trueno> Where can I get shipping information? I ordered about 5 weeks ago..
[12:54] <hondje> kestas: Probably is
[12:54] <Myrtti> Ubuntu kicks ass over freebsd
[12:54] <Myrtti> IMHO
[12:54] <hondje> kestas: why is it tmp/ and not /tmp or whatever?
[12:54] <Myrtti> <3
[12:55] <hyphenated> lsuactiafner: depends on many factors, such as the p2p application, the spread of whatever they are downloading and so on
[12:55] <kestas> Myrtti: well youre a woman so you need a pretty interface :)
[12:55] <Myrtti> kestas: <3
[12:55] <kestas> hondje: Im in /mnt and theres a tmp directory in there
[12:55] <kestas> /mnt/tmp gives the same result
[12:55] <hondje> kestas: use absolute paths
[12:55] <hondje> oh, okay
[12:55] <hondje> well, it's a server msg anyway, not mount barfing
[12:55] <kong0> does anybody have some screenshots on gentoo?
[12:55] <lsuactiafner> hyphenated : i need to limit outgoig TCP SYN request else i get flooded with ACKS on my 5k/s dailup
[12:56] <tylerdd> i open kismet program
[12:56] <tylerdd> and then y close
[12:56] <ompaul> kestas, http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-nfs.html might be of more use
[12:56] <hyphenated> lsuactiafner: should be do-able with iptables, but I don't know a suitable frontend for setting up rate-limits like that
[12:56] <tylerdd> but when i try to open again
[12:56] <tylerdd> he said error
[12:56] <tylerdd> kismet existing
[12:57] <tylerdd> what can i do?
[12:57] <kestas> ompaul: already read it, still cant figure out why I'm getting access denied
[12:57] <lsuactiafner> hyphenated : ive done the iptables
[12:57] <lsuactiafner> but right now i limit to 15 non-http and 10 http and 3 ftp
[12:57] <hyphenated> it's more common to rate-limit ICMP it seems
[12:57] <hondje> kestas: grep nfs defaults/rc.conf
[12:57] <topyli> kong0: gentoo uses the defaults pretty much, so you might as well look at kde.org or gnome.org for shots :)
[12:57] <lsuactiafner> and i set a ingress filter on also
[12:57] <hondje> is nfs_server_enable set to yes?
[12:58] <tylerdd> ????
[12:58] <lsuactiafner> i know iptables well, just did a pom on it and upgraded to 1.3.1 which means 1.3.4 is prolly just been released
[12:59] <kestas> hondje: well defaults/rc.conf is where the default settings are, /etc/rc.conf is where user specified settings are and its set to nfs_server_enable there
[12:59] <hondje> kestas: hrm
[12:59] <kestas> hondje: it shouldnt matter though once nfsd is up
[12:59] <hondje> kestas: showmount -e show them?
[01:00] <ompaul> I tried to subscribe to yet another list this morning and no reply as yet
[01:00] <hondje> ompaul: I think they died
[01:00] <ompaul> it is now according to ntp afternoon :)
[01:00] <thoreauputic> ompaul: bob2 tells me there are server problems
[01:00] <ompaul> thoreauputic, grand
[01:00] <hondje> bob2 knows all
[01:00] <hondje> is he a canonical guy or something?
[01:00] <thoreauputic> ompaul: I haven't had any users-list mail for 24 hours
[01:01] <topyli> what a weird overview of linux distros: http://www.tipmonkies.com/2005/06/16/linux-distros/
[01:01] <kestas> hondje: 'command not found'
[01:01] <ompaul> thoreauputic, archives greater than disk size maybe
[01:01] <kestas> hondje: on the client ubuntu
[01:01] <hondje> kestas: I meant on the fbsd box
[01:01] <hondje> kestas: other than that, you know more than me here :)
[01:01] <thoreauputic> hondje: bob2 is working for canonical I think - at least he is close to the action
[01:02] <hondje> he's a good hire
[01:02] <hondje> If I was like, running a company or something, and it did linux, I'd hire him
[01:02] <hondje> Then people would say 'my, that hondje is a clever one, look at the brains under him'
[01:02] <thoreauputic> hondje: I met hm at Ubuntu Downunder - nice guy
[01:02] <hondje> seems it
[01:02] <kestas> hondje: ah yes I needed to restart mountd
[01:02] <kestas> oops
[01:02] <hondje> kestas: yay for hondje
[01:03] <hondje> I actually knew something BSD related
[01:03] <ulass> hi
[01:03] <kestas> :)
[01:03] <ulass> anyone knows if inotify exists in hoary ?
[01:04] <lambert> hello
[01:04] <lambert> how I can to use "gnome bittorent" ?
[01:04] <ompaul> topyli, it is not wierd, just different, I don't agree with the take that site has on SuSE but that is me
[01:04] <lambert> ah un francais??
[01:04] <lambert> salut
[01:04] <hondje> sont francais!
[01:05] <lambert> moi oui
[01:05] <HappyFool> ulass: i don't know, but 'apt-cache search inotify' returns no matches
[01:05] <topyli> ompaul: suse is a redhat derivative? isn't it almost as old as slack?
[01:05] <hondje> ulass: dpkg -S inotify says it's in the kernel headers pkg
[01:05] <hondje> No, Suse isn't that old
[01:05] <BockBilbo> lambert, #ubuntu-fr
[01:06] <topyli> hmm.
[01:06] <hondje> novell is doing some kick ass stuff with it though
[01:06] <thoreauputic> topyli: all rpm distros trace their ancestry to Red hat
[01:06] <SteveGrif> how do I tell XFree86 to show allow a screenmode when it doesn't show it in the screenmode list? I've just swtiched from nv to nvidia drivers and now it doesn't allow me to switch to my 1920x1440 resolution
[01:06] <topyli> thoreauputic: did suse always use rpm?
[01:06] <lambert> BockBilbo yes but they don't know because they use azureus...
[01:06] <lambert> not gnomebittorent
[01:06] <thoreauputic> topyli: I assume so - I don't know though
[01:06] <theD3viL> SteveGrif, you must change your xorg.conf
[01:06] <hondje> they aways did
[01:06] <ompaul> topyli, they did
[01:06] <hondje> RH is dad of rpm land
[01:07] <ulass> hondje, are you using the official 2.6.10 kernel ?
[01:07] <lambert> you don't knox too?
[01:07] <ompaul> topyli, redhat package manager = rpm iirc
[01:07] <hondje> ulass: yeah, -686 one
[01:07] <theD3viL> RPM's sux !
[01:07] <lambert> you don't know too?
[01:07] <topyli> http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/1998-Jan/0360.html
[01:07] <SteveGrif> theD3viL, I've tried doing that - but I don't exactly know what to do... I do have "1990x1440" in the modes section
[01:07] <hondje> hey, whatever happened to turbolinux?
[01:07] <hondje> I found an old turbulinux cd in a box the other day
[01:07] <asimon> ulass: Hoary's kernel has inotify support but it's disabled by default because there were problems with it.
[01:07] <thoreauputic> hondje: now part of mandriva
[01:07] <thoreauputic> I think
[01:08] <topyli> " We translated all the slackware scripts to german and made a german slackware out of ot."
[01:08] <hondje> good ol' slack :)
[01:08] <topyli> in 1993 :)
[01:08] <theD3viL> SteveGrif, you must have "1990x1440" in modes section under 24bits if you have 24 bits default.
[01:08] <hondje> topyli: hey, fascinating
[01:08] <ompaul> topyli, I sit corrected :)
[01:08] <topyli> too long ago for anybody :)
[01:09] <SteveGrif> theD3viL, I do have that there
[01:09] <thoreauputic> topyli: so when did they give in to the Dark Side and start RPM ;) ?
[01:09] <SteveGrif> Modes           "1920x1440" "1920x1200" "1856x1392" ....
[01:09] <masahiro> I'm back
[01:09] <Rocha> Hi
[01:09] <hondje> thoreauputic: at the time, rpm was better than the alternatives, and less manpower intensive than dpkg
[01:09] <ulass> asimon, how do you enable it back or can you ?
[01:09] <SteveGrif> :(
[01:10] <thoreauputic> hondje: yeah, I know - just stirring :)
[01:10] <ulass> asimon, i need to check a beagle bug..
[01:10] <theD3viL> SteveGrif, DefaultDepth	24
[01:10] <theD3viL> SteveGrif, SubSection "Display"
[01:10] <theD3viL> 		Depth		24
[01:10] <theD3viL> 		Modes		"1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
[01:10] <theD3viL> 	EndSubSection
[01:10] <SteveGrif> theD3viL, yep, it's in Section Screen
[01:10] <hondje> oh, don't let me stop you sir :)
[01:10] <Rocha> How can I create a new xorg.conf ?
[01:10] <kcburyshaker> is there any way to get a webcam to work with ubuntu?
[01:10] <Rocha> Yesterday I updated some X stuff and breezy now doesn't start X server.
[01:10] <hondje> Rocha: by making it and saving it as /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:10] <asimon> ulass: Yes, during boot via some kernel parameter, but I don't know how exactly.
[01:10] <topyli> thoreauputic: they don't mention the time, but after they took jurix as the base instead of slack. suse the company was founded in 1997
[01:10] <hondje> oh
[01:11] <thoreauputic> topyli: ah OK - thanks
[01:11] <Rocha> hondje: Is there any dpkg command to configure X ?
[01:11] <hondje> Rocha: yessir
[01:11] <Rocha> hondje: what is it then?
[01:11] <hondje> Rocha: I'm trying to remember
[01:11] <topyli> Rocha: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:11] <thoreauputic> Rocha: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:11] <hondje> I think it's dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:12] <Rocha> thanks
[01:12] <topyli> heh
[01:12] <theD3viL> SteveGrif, i dunno then
[01:12] <hondje> hey, I thought right
[01:12] <Rocha> i'll try that
[01:12] <thoreauputic> *smirk*
[01:12] <topyli> whee!
[01:12] <hondje> ^5
[01:12] <thoreauputic> hehe
[01:13] <yahalom> can someone tell me how i can change beep-media-player's skins?
[01:13] <asimon> ulass: You need to add "inotify" to your kernel line in /boot/grub/grub.conf (or add it with grub via it's editor function before booting). But anyway, it won't work, inotify is disabled by default bacause it doesn't work.
[01:13] <karim> is it a problem to put a hard drive upside down ?
[01:15] <hondje> karim: not generally
[01:15] <yahalom> karim, no. problem to handle it too much.
[01:15] <ompaul> topyli, well I started using open source software in 94 but I can only remember turbo linux, redhat FreeBSD and something called debian I remember a big box of linux stuff from walnut creek cost about 140 dollars
[01:15] <karim> hondje, hum, generally ?
[01:15] <Heimdall> re
[01:15] <karim> yahalom, what ?
[01:15] <scott_> Can someone help me to get my multihead working please?
[01:15] <hondje> karim: well, I'd hate to guarantee something is never bad
[01:16] <topyli> ompaul: i started with redhat 5.0, which was pretty painful. then mandrake saved me :)
[01:16] <yahalom> karim, if u handle it too much. play around with it too much. move it from place to place. throw it across the room, etc. basicaly being and idiot with it.
[01:16] <hondje> ompaul: you can't stay sir, ubuntu is for newbies, not 'since yggradisl was still around'ies
[01:16] <yahalom> karim, and also dont touch the exposed parts. some hard disks are most exposed than others.
[01:17] <topyli> hondje: lazy gurus may use ubuntu too =)
[01:17] <hondje> oh, lazy is good
[01:17] <hondje> that's what I like about ubuntu, except for firefox and evolution it's work-free
[01:17] <scott_> Can someone help me to get my multihead working please?
[01:17] <thor|caffeine> topyli: my first Redhat refused to startx: i rang the shop I bought the disc from and the guy asked me to run some commands then told me it was working perfectly and to get used to the CLI ;)
[01:18] <topyli> hondje: laziness is the mother of innovation
[01:18] <hondje> topyli: and boredom
[01:18] <yahalom> karim, y ur hard disk not working?
[01:18] <karim> yahalom, the exposed parts ? You mean, like bollocks ?
[01:18] <topyli> thor|caffeine: my box at the time had a nasty sis graphics card, so the first thing i had to do was setting up framebuffer for X. oh joy
[01:19] <karim> yahalom, no it's working, but on my case the ide cable are too short, and I must turn the disk
[01:19] <karim> I will bought longer cable though
[01:20] <GNULinuxer> bob2, hey, what is the way to change the Xcursor theme?
[01:20] <GNULinuxer> bob2, i mean the mouse theme
[01:20] <HWolf> How do I set a shortcut key to launch a random app?
[01:21] <kcburyshaker> i just looked at the page hit ranking on the right side of this page   http://distrowatch.com/        glad im on the right team  :)
[01:21] <yahalom> karim, lol
[01:21] <hondje> trusting that is like trusting a used car dealer :)
[01:21] <yahalom> karim, lol not like bollocks.
[01:22] <kcburyshaker> HWolf  system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[01:22] <thoreauputic> kcburyshaker: yeah we are flavour of the month: don't know how long that will last though
[01:22] <yahalom> karim, for ex. western digital hd have one side exposed. there are other hard drives that are totally sealed. the ones that have ne side exposed, touching it could cause data loss. even thought i haven't seen that happen.
[01:22] <scott_> Can someone help me configure my computer so that more than one monitor will work on it please?
[01:23] <yahalom> karim, when i repair pcs i often have the hard disk in some weird position and its fine. just in long term its better u keep it in the designated area.
[01:23] <HappyFool> kcburyshaker (and HWolf): i don't see a way to make arbitrary shortcuts there, fwiw
[01:23] <HWolf> HappyFool, right on
[01:23] <kcburyshaker> ohhhhh
[01:24] <HWolf> Any other way?
[01:24] <hondje> HWolf: the gconf editor
[01:24] <kcburyshaker> well im new
[01:24] <hondje> you can set shortcuts, they're all in the metacity sections
[01:24] <HWolf> hondje, thanks, filing a bug now. :)
[01:25] <topyli> kcburyshaker: distrowatch counts page hits, how many people look at the distro pages. no-one knows usage statistics :)
[01:25] <HappyFool> scott: this *might* help, but it looks out of date:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors
[01:25] <scott_> Thanks, I'll check it out HappyFool
[01:25] <hondje> topyli: I have usage stats!
[01:25] <thoreauputic> topyli: the gratis CDs aren't hurting though :)
[01:25] <hondje> They're fake though
[01:26] <yahalom> nobody here uses beep-media-player?
[01:26] <hondje> analysis of traffic to some website and a user poll
[01:26] <hondje> yahalom: I do
[01:26] <topyli> hondje: i can give exact usage stats of this house: 50% ubuntu, 50% windows :)
[01:26] <thoreauputic> hondje: 95.34% of statistics are fake!
[01:26] <thoreauputic> yahalom: I use beep a lot
[01:26] <kcburyshaker> topyli   true   but even if half of the hits are actual downloaders   then it still works out we are on top
[01:27] <hondje> hehe, I like people who cite netcraft stats :)
[01:27] <hondje> ubuntu isn't the most popular distro at all
[01:27] <theD3viL> www.distrowatch.com ;)
[01:27] <topyli> thoreauputic: i'm sure ubuntu is growing!
[01:27] <karim> yahalom, ok
[01:27] <kcburyshaker> no   but it is doing good for how long it has been out
[01:28] <theD3viL> But (k)ubuntu have too many bugs !
[01:28] <hondje> yeah, growing like gentoo did
[01:28] <thoreauputic> actually the rise of Ubuntu has been amazing
[01:28] <topyli> i wonder how many ubuntu users are newbies and how many are old debianites
[01:28] <kong0> lmnar
[01:28] <hondje> 5 years windows free
[01:29] <hondje> still have debian, just not on my desktop
[01:29] <nama_ku_itaa> hay
[01:29] <thoreauputic> topyli: my last Debian install went Ubuntu a few days ago
[01:29] <hondje> thoreauputic: oh, so you drank all the kool-aid?
[01:29] <BoD_SWAT> I did a e2fsck on my sys and I get a "data: 231284/36634624 files (4.6% non-contiguous), 52652647/73262416 blocks" Is that OK?
[01:29] <topyli> thoreauputic: i just got tired of maintaining my unstable installations
[01:29] <hondje> I'm way to afraid to put important stuff on ubuntu
[01:29] <GNULinuxer> topyli, there are guys who are neither newbies not debianites
[01:30] <topyli> GNULinuxer: fedora refugees :)
[01:30] <thoreauputic> hondje: yep -I'm an unthinking acolyte of the Church Of Ubuntu *grin*
[01:30] <HappyFool> hondje: really? why not?
[01:30] <hondje> HappyFool: not stable enough
[01:30] <GNULinuxer> topyli, yes, and guys from other distros too ... like SuSE [me] 
[01:30] <hondje> I really value my data, a whole lot
[01:30] <daniel^> topyli: or gentoo, slackware, etc.
[01:31] <topyli> hondje: have you already dared to upgrade to sarge?
[01:31] <thoreauputic> topyli: gentoo refugees as well !
[01:31] <daniel^> refugees... hmmm, i still run gentoo and debian... and now ubuntu too :p
[01:32] <hondje> topyli: I'm on sarge :)
[01:32] <hondje> upgrade wasn't too bad
[01:32] <topyli> hondje: well, when they say it's stable, you better believe it :)
[01:32] <hondje> damn right
[01:32] <hondje> only thing to worry about is hardware death
[01:32] <dantheman64> I'm stuck in a 640 x 480 resolution; can someone tell me how to switch to a higher one? I've tried the Screen Resolution applet to no avail: only that res is available.,
[01:33] <hondje> Ubuntu is nice, but I get regular crashes, and that doesn't make me feel comfortable
[01:33] <dantheman64> hondje, why do you get crashes?
[01:33] <topyli> hondje: ubuntu doesn't crash. there's another problem
[01:34] <hondje> topyli: not the OS, but applications regularly segfault
[01:34] <hondje> Lately it's evolution, it dies ~4x a day
[01:34] <daniel^> >_<
[01:34] <bob2> hondje: please do file bugs
[01:34] <hondje> I think it's not liking getting cals from hula
[01:34] <hondje> bob2: I do, even drop in some core files
[01:34] <karim> is hoary live/install  cd bootable on the oldworlds macs ?
[01:34] <bob2> eeeexcellent.
[01:34] <flankk> i have the php4 package and array_ functions don't work.. is there a seperate package i need?
[01:35] <masahiro> anybody got remote assistance to see if i can get my sound working?
[01:35] <bob2> karim: you have an old word mac with enough ram to run the live cd?
[01:35] <flankk> karim, ubuntu is not designed for oldworld macs, use a distro that is.
[01:35] <karim> bob2, I just want to know if I can boot the install CD
[01:35] <carlo> hello i have a big problem with ubuntu, is this the place to ask for help?
[01:36] <thoreauputic> carlo: fire away
[01:36] <cjnodell> Hello
[01:36] <cjnodell> I have aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa question
[01:36] <topyli> heh
[01:36] <karim> flankk, I already run a debian on it
[01:36] <arkainium> Is there an easy way to copy an image from one hard disk to another?  I want to upgrade my system to use SATA but I *really* don't want to go through the whole install/configuration process.
[01:36] <cjnodell> I am using ubuntu 5.04, and a D-link DWL-122 wireless network card (USB) with ndiswrapper, and it works, but VERRY slowly
[01:37] <flankk> karim, so you have gotten around the PROM settings getting it to boot?
[01:37] <cjnodell> how can i fix it?
[01:37] <cran> hi
[01:37] <carlo> when I installed ubuntu I made a FAT32 partition and it was mounted to /home (i didnt notice that), and therefore I couldnt create a user during installation
[01:37] <flankk> karim, anyways, if you have debian on it, then you would be quite aware on how to boot the cd.
[01:37] <karim> flankk, I installed from a floppy drive. I know that the debian install cd for ppc aren't bootable on oldworld. I don't know for ubuntu
[01:38] <carlo> i ended up with a root account only
[01:38] <karim> flankk, no, it could only be done from floppy
[01:38] <flankk> karim, no install cds are bootable on oldworld, try yellowdog linux or something designed for the job..
[01:38] <topyli> arkainium: do dpkg --get-selections and backup /etc. then on the new system, do dpkg --set-selections and put the old /etc there :)
[01:38] <carlo> i changed the /home directory to a ext3 partition and created a default user
[01:39] <carlo> then add it to the sudoers list
[01:39] <karim> flankk, I ask if ubuntu install cd is bootable on oldworld, I don't ask advices on which distro to use. thanks
[01:39] <arkainium> topyli, exactly the answer I was looking for.  Thanks!
[01:39] <flankk> karim, the answer is no, i was simply giving you a suggestion to avoid repeating myself.
[01:40] <ska-fan> How would I go about installing some debian unstable packages on hoary? Download the .debs and dpkg -i?
[01:40] <thoreauputic> ska-fan: not sadvisable
[01:40] <hondje> ska-fan: ubuntu doesn't have them?
[01:40] <thoreauputic> *advisable
[01:40] <carlo> here comes the problem: i deleted the root account thinking i wont need it with a user that is on the sudoers lists (with userdel) and now i cant sudo(sudo: no passwd entry for root!)
[01:40] <cran> I have two independent X servers (two KDE sessions, two users) running on the same computer. Everything works find except a problem I have with hal/dbus-1. How would I prevent certain devices to show up in a specific users KDE session? I think it could be done somehow by tweaking udev and/or hald but I'm not really sure where I should look. Does someone have an idea? Good docs?
[01:40] <carlo> i have to reinstall everything? :(
[01:41] <cran> ah well, I'm running kubuntu hoary
[01:41] <flankk> karim, besides, if you currently have debian on it, you can switch your sources to ubuntu repositories and you will have a ubuntu system that way.. i believe there is a post in the forum discussing how to do this effectively.
[01:41] <ska-fan> hondje: postgresql-8
[01:41] <ska-fan> hondje: so no
[01:41] <thoreauputic> carlo: I think you shot yourself in the foot...
[01:41] <carlo> ouch
[01:41] <zyth> carlo: you might be able to boot in Linux single and edit the file
[01:41] <hondje> ska-fan: best way is to download them using apt-get source <package>, then build debs from that
[01:41] <zyth> if ubuntu supports it
[01:41] <carlo> zyth how can i do that?
[01:41] <cjnodell> Hi... Can somebody help me?
[01:42] <karim> flankk, yes, I did that switch on a G3 400mhz, from debian to ubuntu, but I did a clean install . I just want to do a clean install
[01:42] <karim> flankk, I mean I did a clean install recently, so save hard drive space
[01:42] <ska-fan> hondje: I have to put debian unstable in sources.list first?
[01:42] <zyth> at the boot: prompt select 'linux single root=/dev/hdx (where x is your root partition) and see if it starts singleuser
[01:42] <hondje> ska-fan: yeah, but JUSt get those pkgs
[01:42] <flankk> karim, use the debian floppy to boot the kernel off the ubuntu cd then..
[01:42] <hondje> or use pinning
[01:43] <karim> flankk, the reason is I discovered that aptitude can remove uneeded dependencies, unlike apt
[01:43] <carlo> zyth thank you I will try
[01:43] <karim> flankk, ok, thanks
[01:43] <flankk> karim, you can have aptitude on debian or ubuntu..
[01:43] <ska-fan> hondje: will apt-get install postgresql-8 only install the pg packages from deb unst?
[01:43] <arsch> how can i make aptitude remove unneeded dependecies?
[01:43] <zyth> carlo, np, I hope it works.
[01:44] <karim> flankk, I didn't said the contrary. I said I want to a clean install to get space back
[01:44] <Blaamann> Can anybody answer me if any mp3 supported player or the codec comes with the downloaded cd ?
[01:44] <carlo> thank you too thoreauputic for listening
[01:44] <thoreauputic> arsch: only if installed with aptitude
[01:44] <karim> flankk, and that I prefer ubuntu
[01:44] <flankk> karim, ok, just making sure it's clear :)
[01:44] <karim> flankk, no prob :)
[01:44] <arsch> oh, ok
[01:44] <arsch> thx thoreauptic
[01:44] <arsch> and, is anybody here, who got portage to work in ubuntu?
[01:44] <zyth> karim, No, mp3 support does not come with the downloaded CD, you have to install extra software
[01:45] <thoreauputic> Blaamann: there are a couple of ways to install mp3 support
[01:45] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[01:45] <ubotu> [restricted]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:45] <thoreauputic> Blaamann: see ubotu above
[01:45] <arsch> or blaamann, you could just look at the ubuntu guide, evrythin is explaind there, just google for "ubuntu guide"
[01:46] <thoreauputic> arsch: unfortunately not all the advice on ubuntuguide is accurate
[01:46] <Blaamann> I heard someone say that I should not use the ubuntuguide. org
[01:46] <arsch> why? its good, you dont need evrythin, but the most part is really good for starters
[01:47] <Hajuu_> Hey
[01:47] <cran> can anybody tell me if theres an ubuntu channel that's a bit more technical than this?
[01:47] <kcburyshaker> i used it   and have no probs
[01:47] <thoreauputic> Blaamann: on the whole, correct, unless you know what you are doing
[01:47] <ompaul> cran, ask and we can get real technical on you if you want :-)
[01:47] <kcburyshaker> and im a newb
[01:47] <cran> ompaul: I already asked :=)
[01:47] <thoreauputic> kcburyshaker: it rather depends on which bits you use
[01:47] <ompaul> cran, I did not see I will sroll back :-)
[01:47] <Blaamann> thoreauputic: Thanks, I heard there was a lot of wrong things in there.
[01:47] <kcburyshaker> i used the top part on how to get all the needed stuff installed
[01:47] <Hajuu_> Uhm... Having some mysql errors.. I just installed it through apt-get and the daemon is running... but when I try to connect to it through php, it says it cannot connect, but doesnt give me any specific information about why...
[01:47] <Hajuu_> any ideas?
[01:48] <kcburyshaker> like java, the media players
[01:48] <kcburyshaker> things like that
[01:48] <Blaamann> thoreauputic: Are there a list somewhere of the packages included in the downloaded cd ?
[01:48] <ompaul> cran, what devices specifically?
[01:48] <lsuactiafner> heh connection limiting works, using p2p and irc still works
[01:48] <cran> ompaul: removable devices like usb stick, camera etc
[01:48] <thoreauputic> kcburyshaker: the problems are things like the recomended apt lists
[01:48] <cran> ompaul: I want specific devices or specific usb ports to only show up on a specific kde session
[01:48] <thoreauputic> backports, marillat etc
[01:49] <ompaul> cran, well one way to do it is to make those devices only belong to the owner of that session
[01:49] <cran> ompaul: so only one user is able to pmount it
[01:49] <kcburyshaker> thor   you have a better place to get a list at?
[01:49] <eskaypey> lo
[01:49] <ompaul> cran, consider the mount points to belong to the user
[01:49] <cran> ompaul: that would mean editing udev.permissions, right?
[01:49] <thoreauputic> kcburyshaker: yes, apt-setup then add multiverse and uncomment universe
[01:50] <kcburyshaker> ok
[01:50] <cran> ompaul: hm
[01:50] <ompaul> cran, I would treat it at file system level
[01:50] <thoreauputic> kcburyshaker: and use other repos only temporarily for eg codecs
[01:50] <ompaul> cran, but that is me
[01:50] <cran> ompaul: isnt the mountpoint chowned to the user by pmount?
[01:50] <ompaul> cran, let me use it for a second :-)
[01:50] <kcburyshaker> ok
[01:50] <thoreauputic> kcburyshaker: comment out 3rd party repos after getting codecs/libdvdcss
[01:50] <cran> ompaul: so the first who clicks on it gets the device
[01:51] <kcburyshaker> thor   is there any way you could pvt me the contents of that file
[01:51] <cran> ompaul: use it?
[01:51] <cran> #
[01:51] <kcburyshaker> so i could copy and paste
[01:52] <cran> ompaul: maybe I don't understand you right
[01:52] <thoreauputic> kcburyshaker: it's just the default file with multiverse added on the universe lines, and the recommended uncommenting to get universe
[01:52] <kcburyshaker> ok
[01:52] <kcburyshaker> gotcha
[01:52] <thoreauputic> kcburyshaker: it's documented in the file
[01:52] <kcburyshaker> i just dont wanna mess something like that up
[01:53] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:53] <ompaul> cran well if you auto mount it you are correct, I was thinking more in terms of a manual mounting it as /mnt/mounted_device_one
[01:53] <ompaul> cran, and turning off automounting
[01:53] <cran> ompaul: i understand
[01:53] <ompaul> cran, ugly but it is effective
[01:53] <cran> ompaul: But I would really like it to automount
[01:54] <ompaul>  /etc/group is your friend in my solution
[01:54] <cran> ompaul: without automounting it would be easy to do in the filesystem, yes
[01:54] <cran> ompaul: hm
[01:54] <ompaul> cran, I do not have an answer foryou there
[01:54] <cran> ompaul: okay, but thanks anyway
[01:54] <ompaul> cran, there is ubuntu-devel but would they consider it correct for them to answer?
[01:55] <marc> mhh dows someone know how i can get the broadcom wireless adapter 802.11b/g working ?
[01:55] <ompaul> cran, when you get it sorted Document it for us all that would be useful :)
[01:55] <cran> ompaul: of course I'll do
[01:55] <AnHu> marc: you must use ndiswrapper
[01:55] <ompaul> cran, :)
[01:55] <cran> ompaul: I'm writing it up currently
[01:55] <cran> ompaul: howto make a local multiuser ubuntu system
[01:55] <marc> iam searching for a german ubuntu channel
[01:56] <AnHu> marc: hallo kollege;-)
[01:56] <topyli> marc: #ubuntu-de?
[01:56] <NicP> guys out of interest how do i check my uptime?
[01:56] <cran> ompaul: perfectly suited for schools and so on
[01:56] <AnHu> geh einfach auf #ubuntu-de
[01:56] <ompaul> marc that might be #ubuntu-de
[01:56] <cran> ompaul: one computer, one installation, up to 4 or mre users :)
[01:56] <cran> ompaul: the only problem thats left is with security of removable devices :)
[01:57] <thoreauputic> NicP: type uptime in a terminal :)
[01:57] <ompaul> cran, ohh no it must be higher - after all there is some company who think that 5 users is the most that should connect to one PC
[01:57] <topyli> cran: have you looked at skolelinux?
[01:57] <marc> ah danke
[01:57] <scaroo> hi ppl ! i cannot make my mind between netapplet and networkmanager; what would you guys advice ? wich one fits better the debian:ubuntu way ?
[01:57] <NicP> lol thanks thoreauputic
[01:57] <marc> hatte gerade problememit meiner verbndung
[01:57] <ompaul> cran, debian edu - and for some random ideas there is a wiki at scoil.linux.ie
[01:57] <marc> ich hatte driverloader probiert
[01:57] <cran> topyli: nope, do they have the local multiuser X stuff integrated? Especially thhe ruby kernel patch?
[01:57] <AnHu> marc: dann komm in den deutschen Channel
[01:57] <thoreauputic> NicP: funny - a *nix command that makes sense ;)
[01:57] <AnHu> da bin ich auch
[01:58] <AnHu> hier soll ma ja Englisch schreiben
[01:58] <Blaamann> Can anybody tell me what the manifest files are from the Ubuntu download page (see http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/ at bottom) ?
[01:58] <zdra> hi ! i installed ubuntu breeze-20050618. Just to report here 2 "problems". first after the basic installation, reboot, and then apt-get ask me for the install CDrom... it's a bug ? i give him the cd and then the installation continue without reading the cd. Second little problem: when for the first time I log in with gdm, it's by default the user-defined session (so nothing, gnome doesn't start) I have thus to select in gdm the gnome session and
[01:58] <zdra> make it the default for the user...
[01:58] <topyli> cran: i don't really know where they're at right now. http://www.skolelinux.org/portal/
[01:58] <cran> topyli: thx
[01:58] <thoreauputic> AnHu: /j #ubuntu-de
[01:58] <zdra> question: is here the right place to report that ? or any mailing list ?
[01:58] <AnHu> yes
[01:59] <ompaul> zdra, yes, you can register at launchpad.ubuntu.com and log it there
[01:59] <finn> hey, anyone know how to get good tv output on an nvidia fx 5200?  my problem is i can't seem to pass 720x568 resolution mpeg2 captured from a dvb-t card to the tele with the interlacing intact
[01:59] <cran> topyli: okay, just read they page. They're not doing the same thing. They go the thin client way, that'sw something different
[01:59] <topyli> ah
[01:59] <cran> topyli: I have _NO_ client
[01:59] <lsuactiafner> zdra : not a bug as far as i know.
[02:00] <cran> just four mice, four keyboards, four screens :) all in one pc
[02:00] <znh> hmz.. what's the default root password - ?.
[02:00] <xalphas> I have a problem with evolution. After a fresh install it doesn't start in hoary. I googled and search the forums. Nothing. I find that it conflicts with evolution-echange i removed it and then evolution started but it hangs like that. What you guys recommend about this situation? thx
[02:00] <topyli> cran: oh, ok, i thought you were after thin clients :)
[02:00] <thoreauputic> !rootsudo
[02:00] <ubotu> it has been said that rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:00] <thoreauputic> znh: read the bot's URL
[02:00] <tylerdd> what is the directory of plugin of mozilla
[02:00] <tylerdd> please
[02:01] <tylerdd> ?
[02:01] <znh> thoreauputic: yes, but when doing sudo, it asks me for a password
[02:01] <cran> tylerdd: have you tried "dpkg -L mozille | grep plug" ?
[02:01] <thoreauputic> tylerdd: ~/.mozilla/plugins I think
[02:01] <topyli> tylerdd: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[02:01] <lsuactiafner> znh : press enter
[02:01] <znh> thoreauputic: oh I see..  D'oh!
[02:01] <thoreauputic> znh: your user password
[02:01] <znh> thanks :)
[02:01] <kcburyshaker> lol    i got thrown for a loop first time i saw that too
[02:01] <lsuactiafner> oh
[02:01] <lsuactiafner> heh
[02:01] <ompaul> cran, 24/5 years ago I used a cremencio 4 workstation computer that was four screens four keyboards (no mouse) and two huge 360k drives it had a whole 128k of ram and it was fast
[02:01] <ska-fan> deb unstable is at python 2.3 still?
[02:02] <lsuactiafner> ive never used sudo on ubuntu
[02:02] <cran> znh: everyone is confused by that the first time :)
[02:02] <znh> anyways how's the support for ndiswrapper in ubuntu?
[02:02] <kcburyshaker> the whole terminal thing is a bit new to me
[02:02] <cran> ompaul: wow
[02:02] <tylerdd> thnaks
[02:02] <znh> kcburyshaker: terminal thingy is lovely
[02:02] <kcburyshaker> lol
[02:02] <cran> ompaul: do you have a link to this somehow?!
[02:02] <topyli> ompaul: i used to run a machine with 512k ram and it was very fast. what has happened to software?
[02:02] <ompaul> no photos of then
[02:02] <kcburyshaker> i think so too   you can do a lot on it
[02:02] <cran> ompaul: btw. HP is selling machines like this again
[02:03] <ompaul> topyli, udev and nat the mother and father of all evil
[02:03] <topyli> heh
[02:03] <cran> ompaul: http://www.hp441.com
[02:03] <ompaul> cran, no I don't maybe I should write it up some time
[02:04] <lsuactiafner> topyli : the software started to actually do things..
[02:04] <cran> ompaul: google does not know anything about "cremencio" :)
[02:04] <znh> okay another question, how to configure a static ip?
[02:04] <znh> everything that the system boots
[02:04] <topyli> lsuactiafner: yeah well, at the time i used to run ms-dos 3.3 and works 1.0 :)
[02:04] <znh> not manualy with ifconfig each time -_-'
[02:04] <ompaul> cran, long before its time
[02:05] <cran> znh: /etc/network/interfaces
[02:05] <znh> aight!
[02:05] <thoreauputic> znh: man interfaces ;) /etc/network/interfaces
[02:05] <ompaul> cran that is how computing should be done that hp link I want one now
[02:05] <ompaul> !!!
[02:05] <ubotu> ompaul: I give up, what is it?
[02:05] <znh> hmm.. that is equal like i would do it in debian :P
[02:05] <ompaul> ubotu, botsnack
[02:05] <ubotu> thanks ompaul :)
[02:05] <thoreauputic> znh: exactly
[02:06] <topyli> cran: smaller firms do that too: http://opensensesolutions.com/faq.html
[02:06] <znh> thoreauputic: are you a bit known with ndiswrapper?
[02:06] <cran> topyli: thx
[02:06] <topyli> cran: i believe it's debian :)
[02:06] <thoreauputic> zdra: no, i'm totally unknown on the subject :)
[02:06] <znh> oh okay :->
[02:07] <tylerdd> the directory of path mozilla?
[02:07] <znh> hope my nickname isn't anonying :/
[02:07] <thoreauputic> znh: I still use old fashioned wires ;)
[02:07] <cran> topyli: very nice!
[02:07] <eskaypey> thoreauputic: more secure way that is
[02:07] <thoreauputic> znh: lazy tab completion, sorry
[02:08] <cran> topyli: they must be using the ruby kernel :)
[02:08] <topyli> :)
[02:08] <zdra> thoreauputic, oki i'll maybe post that on the ubuntu-devel mailing list when http://lists.ubuntulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel will be online :)
[02:08] <cran> topyli: it's really easy to do on your own
[02:08] <zdra> "connection refused" it says :)
[02:08] <topyli> cran: i guess, yeah
[02:08] <cran> topyli: I wonder how they solved the hal/dbus-1 issue I'm having
[02:08] <thoreauputic> zdra: heh
[02:09] <tylerdd> the directory of path mozilla?
[02:09] <zdra> oh it works now :)
[02:09] <topyli> cran: i wonder if they have documented the system well
[02:09] <HappyFool> tylerdd: you mean /usr/bin/mozilla ?
[02:09] <thoreauputic> zdra: sorry about the tab error ;)
[02:09] <zdra> lol
[02:10] <tylerdd> sip
[02:10] <znh> :b
[02:10] <XandriX> wth
[02:10] <XandriX> it stalled at 50% in configuring apt-get
[02:10] <tylerdd> look at this
[02:10] <tylerdd> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
[02:10] <tylerdd> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):
[02:10] <tylerdd> ??
[02:11] <HappyFool> tylerdd: what are you trying to do?
[02:11] <znh> lol this is quite funny.. I had to download 'make' manualy :P
[02:12] <tylerdd> install
[02:12] <HappyFool> install what?
[02:12] <tylerdd> macromedia flash player
[02:12] <cran> topyli: o boy this groovix is killing me :)
[02:12] <topyli> tylerdd: you can just apt-get it
[02:12] <thoreauputic> znh: no, you didn't: you would get it with ` sudo apt-get install build-essential `
[02:12] <cran> topyli: it's _EXACTLY_ what I'm doing, using the same patches and everything :)
[02:12] <topyli> cran: grab yer wallets!
[02:12] <HappyFool> tylerdd: i have a /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox -- that may be what you want
[02:13] <cran> topyli: hehe
[02:13] <tylerdd> apt-get macromedia flash???
[02:13] <znh> thoreauputic: I didn't had an internet connection while installing ubuntu, so yeah.. I didn't receive it :D
[02:13] <thoreauputic> znh: it's on the CD
[02:13] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:14] <znh> :/
[02:14] <tylerdd> okk
[02:14] <HappyFool> tylerdd: have you checked ubuntuguide.org ?
[02:14] <tylerdd> thanks
[02:14] <znh> well then i missed the installation option :)
[02:14] <tylerdd> yes
[02:14] <tylerdd> had beeb installed
[02:14] <topyli> tylerdd: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:14] <thoreauputic> znh: it isn't installed by default
[02:14] <znh> anyways how to manauly calculate the ETA of a download?
[02:14] <thoreauputic> znh: but it is on the CD
[02:14] <znh> size / speed ?
[02:15] <thoreauputic> znh: apt-get or wget will both automatically calculate ETA
[02:15] <znh> thoreauputic: yes thats right.. But i want to do it manualy
[02:15] <HappyFool> size of file downloaded / download rate
[02:16] <topyli> znh: divide size by speed?
[02:16] <XandriX> are there minimum requierments for ubuntu ??
[02:16] <topyli> znh: or vice versa, i don't know
[02:16] <topyli> :)
[02:16] <znh> so like:
[02:16] <znh> size = 5000 Kbyte
[02:16] <znh> speed = 1024 Kbyte
[02:16] <znh> size  / speed
[02:16] <znh> that would be 4
[02:16] <HappyFool> indeed
[02:16] <znh> 4 minutes?
[02:16] <daniel^> yes sir
[02:17] <topyli> znh: seconds i guess
[02:17] <Seveas> znh, speed is measure in kbyte/sec, not in kbyte...
[02:17] <Seveas> and 1024 kbyte/sec is a lot :)
[02:17] <znh> Seveas: hmm.. what does that change for my calculation ?
[02:17] <Seveas> znh, it gets the units right...
[02:17] <znh> yes, I ment.. what would it be then?
[02:17] <Seveas> so you actually get a menuingful answer for time...
[02:18] <topyli> znh: the unit kbyte/sec says it all in its name :)
[02:18] <XandriX> does ubuntu still crap ou ta bit in xfs ?
[02:18] <znh> size = 5000
[02:18] <znh> speed = 102
[02:18] <znh> size / speed
[02:18] <Seveas> if you really have a 1024 kbyte/sec downstream you could download a 4096 kbyte file in 4 seconds
[02:18] <znh> Seveas: well it's 102kbyte/sec ;)
[02:19] <Seveas> znh, 5000 WHAT, 102 WHAT..?
[02:19] <daniel^> 1mb/s sounds like fun
[02:19] <Seveas> you can't calculate without units...
[02:19] <jnoreiko> <-- now on Hoary! :)
[02:19] <pepsi> wtf are you guys talking about?
[02:19] <znh> Seveas: sheeps :>
[02:19] <pepsi> you weirdos
[02:19] <znh> pepsi: dogs and cats
[02:19] <Seveas> znh, go get a clue about math/physics...
[02:19] <pepsi> its raining :(
[02:19] <HappyFool> Seveas: were you ever a math/sci/eng tutor by any chance ? ;)
[02:19] <znh> Seveas: my brain doesn't support that.. known issue
[02:19] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: cool
[02:20] <pepsi> znh, thats a "feature"
[02:20] <thoreauputic> znh: put in a bug report *g8
[02:20] <znh> yea a missing feuture
[02:20] <Seveas> znh, then don't try to do these things if your brain doesn't support it. You might hurt your innerear :)
[02:20] <topyli> znh: http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedtest.asp
[02:20] <znh> I'll do after this life :P
[02:20] <XandriX> does ubuntu still crap ou ta bit in xfs ?
[02:20] <znh> topyli: dude I know what internet speed i've got
[02:20] <topyli> ah
[02:21] <Seveas> 5000 KB / 102 KB/s = 49 sec
[02:21] <znh> size = 5000 kbyte
[02:21] <znh> speed = 102 kbit/sec
[02:21] <znh> size / speed = x sec
[02:21] <Seveas> kbit!
[02:21] <Seveas> 5000 KB / 102 Kb/s = 392 sec
[02:22] <znh> * 60 = xx minutes
[02:22] <Seveas> or: little over 6 minute 30
[02:22] <Seveas>  / 60
[02:22] <znh> oh damn..
[02:22] <znh> I'll write some application for that
[02:22] <thoreauputic> znh: where did you go to school ? <laugh>
[02:22] <Seveas> thoreauputic, probably nowhere :)
[02:22] <Seveas> this is kindergarten math :)
[02:23] <znh> thoreauputic: the school aint the problem, my brain ;) i've got PDD-NOS
[02:23] <Seveas> znh, no excuse :)
[02:23] <topyli> what's that?
[02:23] <XandriX> does ubuntu still crap ou ta bit in xfs ?
[02:23] <Seveas> A friend of mine has PDD-NOS and is a math wizzard :)
[02:23] <Seveas> XandriX: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[02:24] <znh> topyli: It's like unbalanced, some things I can very good.. somethings i just can't (what other people normaly would)
[02:24] <topyli> znh: sounds like me :)
[02:24] <ivanox> let's say I didnt know how much ram I have in my computer, how can I check it?
[02:25] <znh> ivanox: 'top' would help you
[02:25] <Heimdall> 'failed ot initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user 'username'. (samba) what does it mean ?
[02:25] <topyli> ivanox: free
[02:25] <thoreauputic> ivanox: cat /proc/meminfo
[02:25] <ivanox> thanks alot :)
[02:25] <znh_chirch> !whois god
[02:25] <ubotu> znh_chirch: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:25] <znh_chirch> xD
[02:26] <thoreauputic> znh_chirch: agnostic bot ;)
[02:26] <Seveas> hey, the mailing lists are back :D
[02:27] <topyli> !whois marx
[02:27] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, topyli
[02:28] <thoreauputic> topyli: and I bet he never heard of Descartes either
[02:28] <topyli> heh
[02:29] <Heimdall> for what reason samba would fail creating a new user account ?
[02:29] <lambert> hi
[02:29] <SDr> could someone name me a good ad-blocker for ubuntu [/firefox] ? [something similiar to admuncher would be nice] 
[02:29] <ompaul> thoreauputic, reni descartes was a drunken fart who was very rearly stable, john stuart mill of his own free will admitted half a pint of shandy made him very very ill, and scorates himself is sadly missed, a lovely little thinker but a bugger when hes pissed :)
[02:30] <topyli> Heimdall: no excuse for such behavior :)
[02:30] <HappyFool> Heimdall: how are you creating the account? smdpasswd ?
[02:30] <thoreauputic> the mailing list may be back, but it lost 24 hrs worth of mail somewhere, it seems...
[02:30] <Heimdall> topyli : indeed... but it is a fact :)
[02:30] <Heimdall> yes
[02:30] <Heimdall> smbpasswd - a username
[02:31] <thoreauputic> ompaul: aye, and no-one expects the Spanish Inquisition !!
[02:31] <HappyFool> smbpasswd -a username --- no space between - and 'a'
[02:31] <Heimdall> yes
[02:31] <Heimdall> no space
[02:31] <HappyFool> Heimdall: also, must be 'sudo'
[02:31] <HappyFool> Heimdall: what error do you get?
[02:31] <Heimdall> yes
[02:32] <SDr> could someone name me a good ad-blocker for ubuntu [/firefox] ? [something similiar to admuncher would be nice] 
[02:32] <Heimdall> failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user "username". Does this user exist un the UNIX password database ? Failed to modify entry for user "username"
[02:32] <tylerdd> someone have aireplay 2.2
[02:32] <tylerdd> ?
[02:32] <Heimdall> (hello HappyFool ;))
[02:32] <thoreauputic> SDr: the adblock extension for firefox?
[02:32] <HappyFool> Heimdall: good afternoon ;)
[02:32] <BrianHH> Hi, everyone.  I have a problem.  I installed gnome backgrounds, and now, for some inexplicable reason, my sound is gone.  Can someone help me?
[02:32] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hmm
[02:33] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I keep having strange things ;)
[02:33] <ompaul> thoreauputic, be careful one of those words is almost from the funniest joke in the world
[02:33] <HappyFool> Heimdall: do you perhaps have 'unix password sync = yes'  in smb.conf ?
[02:34] <thoreauputic> BrianHH: the connection seems tenuous...
[02:34] <Heimdall> hum let me look
[02:34] <BrianHH> thoreauputic:  That's what I thought.  That's what makes it inexplicable.
[02:34] <BrianHH> brb
[02:34] <thoreauputic> BrianHH: hmm
[02:34] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i don't think that it's set to 'yes' by default
[02:34] <HappyFool> Heimdall: have you tweaked smb.conf at all?
[02:35] <Heimdall> which one ? in etc/ or usr/share ?
[02:35] <Heimdall> HappyFool : no never
[02:35] <HappyFool> Heimdall: in /etc/samba
[02:35] <Heimdall> ok, because I have also in /usr/share/sambasmb.conf
[02:35] <sHaDe> irc.darksin.net
[02:35] <sHaDe> azz
[02:35] <Heimdall> sorry /usr/share/samba/smb.conf
[02:36] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hmm. i think that that file is just a sample
[02:36] <hulk> is it possible to start a program an another workspace?
[02:36] <Heimdall> HappyFool : that's a no
[02:36] <kbrooks> ping
[02:36] <HappyFool> Heimdall: err, what's a no?
[02:36] <thoreauputic> pong
[02:37] <topyli> hulk: in gnome, no
[02:37] <Heimdall> well unix paxxord syn=no
[02:37] <Heimdall> damn, password
[02:37] <kbrooks> kickstart is........
[02:37] <hulk> thx
[02:37] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok
[02:37] <Heimdall> rhooo
[02:37] <kbrooks> ocool?
[02:37] <Heimdall> well unix password sync=no
[02:37] <ompaul> thoreauputic, is the list starting to rev up again?
[02:37] <Heimdall> lol sorry :/
[02:37] <XandriX> is it possible to get a vnc in ubuntu by apt-get ??
[02:38] <thoreauputic> ompaul: looks like it - i have a small penguin trying to escape gkrellm here...
[02:38] <ompaul> thoreauputic, hmmmm
[02:38] <kbrooks> weirwd
[02:38] <kbrooks> honestly.
[02:38] <thoreauputic> ompaul: he does that when I have mail...
[02:38] <kbrooks> kickstart is better
[02:38] <ompaul> thoreauputic, yeah but in a flood
[02:39] <Heimdall> HappyFool : http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/lofiversion/index.php/t10725.html
[02:39] <HappyFool> Heimdall: could you put /etc/samba/smb.conf up on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl ?
[02:39] <ompaul> thoreauputic, pm ok ?
[02:39] <thoreauputic> ompaul: 17 messages so far
[02:39] <cb_> hello all...Anyone knows whether installation of Ubuntu will nicely erase SuSE and leave Win2K intact? I am dual booting now. Thanx.
[02:39] <ompaul> ooch
[02:39] <thoreauputic> ompaul: yeah
[02:39] <BrianHH> thoreauputic:  I fixed the problem.  For some reason, when it installed the backgrounds, it uninstalled gdm.  I reinstalled gdm and all is well now.
[02:39] <ompaul> cb_, it should
[02:39] <HappyFool> Heimdall: aargh. i did a test of smbpasswd, but the user i added exists on my system
[02:40] <thoreauputic> BrianHH: aha - very odd
[02:40] <ompaul> cb_, as long as you do it right :)
[02:40] <nameless> \id
[02:40] <HappyFool> Heimdall: i'm sure there must be a way to add an smb user without having a local user account
[02:40] <BrianHH> cb_:  I nicely installed Ubuntu over Fedora, so I assume it will work the same with Suse.
[02:40] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I believe you
[02:40] <cb_> BrianHH: U were also dul booting right?
[02:40] <nameless> Hello ppl!
[02:40] <cb_> dul=dual
[02:41] <BrianHH> cb_:  Yes.  I had XP on one partition, and Fedora on the other.
[02:42] <Heimdall> HappyFool : http://nico.aunai.free.fr/tmp/SMB.CON
[02:42] <cb_> Ok. Thanx. I'd then like to set up an ogg stream server. how hard can this be?
[02:42] <BrianHH> cb_:  As long as you install Ubuntu *after* you have Windows on the system, you should be fine.  If you try to install Windows over Linux, it kils the boot loader.
[02:42] <jnoreiko> HappyFool, upgrading from the mounted ISO worked, btw. :)
[02:42] <BrianHH> cb_:  I've never done that.
[02:42] <XandriX> how do you list packages installable in ubuntu again its dkpg something
[02:42] <cb_> ok
[02:43] <tylerdd> someone had proved aireplay 2.2
[02:43] <tylerdd> ?
[02:43] <BrianHH> cb_:  You can set up your machine as an FTP server and access your ogg files remotely that way.
[02:43] <Danar> why doesn't ubuntu have xine?
[02:44] <XandriX> danar it can have it
[02:44] <HappyFool> jnoreiko: good to here
[02:44] <HappyFool> Heimdall: hrm. a quick browse of smb.conf doesn't reveal how to have 'smb only' users
[02:44] <Danar> root@ubuntu:/mnt/hdb4 # apt-get install xine
[02:44] <Danar> Reading package lists... Done
[02:44] <Danar> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:44] <Danar> E: Couldn't find package xine
[02:44] <HappyFool> Heimdall: easy option is to add the user to your system before running smbpasswd
[02:45] <Danar> nor gxine either
[02:45] <cb_> BrianHH: I wanted to see how I could help a small radio station have internet presence. FTP would not work here.
[02:45] <XandriX> danar did u update you rpackage list
[02:45] <topyli> Danar: it's libxine and xine-ui
[02:45] <HappyFool> Heimdall: add a user either with adduser (command line) or System -> Administration -> Users and Groups
[02:45] <Danar> E: Package xine-ui has no installation candidate
[02:46] <Heimdall> HappyFool : but it is not said that I have to add user to my system before
[02:46] <topyli> Danar: you don't have the universe repository in sources.list
[02:46] <kestas> when youve got a user with a user id of 1000, and you want to share files via NFS with a user account which has a user id of 1001, what do you do?
[02:46] <Leeon> Anyone here had a problem with mysql connections in php 4?
[02:46] <BrianHH> cb_:  I don't know.  Maybe you could see if there's a Real Producer for Linux.  Other than that, I'm not familiar with such software.
[02:46] <masahiro> how come alsaconf won't work?
[02:46] <HappyFool> Heimdall: it's news to me too
[02:46] <cb_> ok
[02:46] <resiak> cb_: Search for Icecast
[02:46] <Heimdall> HappyFool : on the ubuntu website it is not said too
[02:46] <BrianHH> For some reason, my cd drive won't play CDs in Ubuntu.
[02:47] <HappyFool> Heimdall: however, if you read 'man smbpasswd', you'll find this: 'the default passdb backends require the user to already exist in the system password file (usually /etc/passwd)'
[02:47] <HappyFool> Heimdall: possibly the wiki page is incorrect
[02:47] <HappyFool> Heimdall: what's the URL ?
[02:47] <Heimdall> err :/
[02:47] <Heimdall> oh it is in french ;)
[02:47] <HappyFool> heh
[02:47] <Leeon> "Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in..." I do have php4-mysql installed (I am using php 4.3.10)... It worked last night. I haven't done a thing (update or so)...
[02:47] <HappyFool> ok, i won't try to update it then
[02:47] <masahiro> *the command alsaconf dosen't work!!!*
[02:47] <HappyFool> Heimdall: add a comment to the bottom regarding this, if you like
[02:48] <Heimdall> HappyFool : http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/applications/samba it has to be some equivalent in english, removing the '-fr' and putting '.com' instead of '.org'
[02:48] <topyli> masahiro: there's no such command
[02:48] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you will need an ubuntulinux.org account; shouldn't take long to create one
[02:48] <masahiro> alsaconf?
[02:48] <Heimdall> HappyFool: oh, cool :)
[02:48] <topyli> masahiro: yes
[02:49] <BrianHH> Okay, now this isn't good.  My CD ROM drive is stuck closed, and it's telling me it's not mounted.
[02:49] <topyli> masahiro: perhaps alsactl?
[02:49] <HappyFool> Heimdall: oh, i don't know ubuntu-fr.org -- the english one is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba (i think)
[02:49] <topyli> masahiro: or amixer?
[02:49] <Heimdall> hehe
[02:50] <hussam> hey guys
[02:50] <Heimdall> HappyFool : you see... now I'm trying to configure the network :)
[02:50] <HappyFool> Heimdall: good stuff
[02:50] <liable> no alsaconf in ubuntu?
[02:50] <Danar> still no xine
[02:50] <Heimdall> HappyFool : it is much easier
[02:50] <dantheman64> I'm stuck in a 640 x 480 resolution! Anyone know how to get higher?
[02:50] <HappyFool> Heimdall: just to check -- you never got your modem working?
[02:50] <Heimdall> HappyFool : it already works
[02:50] <Heimdall> HappyFool : no... :)
[02:50] <HappyFool> Heimdall: ok
[02:51] <dantheman64>  I'm stuck in a 640 x 480 resolution! Anyone know how to get higher?
[02:51] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you have connected your laptop and other computer ?
[02:51] <Heimdall> HappyFool : don't care... my other one will be here soon ;)
[02:51] <kcburyshaker> im trying to figure out why these people have so many probs   ubuntu installed perfectly for me and everything works
[02:51] <Heimdall> HappyFool : yes, but the other is under winXP
[02:51] <hussam> how do I schedule a cron job for a task to run as root every 60 minutes? I also don't want it to not log anything.
[02:51] <HappyFool> kcburyshaker: unsupported hardware, typically
[02:51] <BrianHH> dantheman64:  Menu -> Prefernces => Screen Resolution
[02:51] <kcburyshaker> ahhhh
[02:51] <Danar> nvm, got it
[02:51] <liable> resiak: you still here?
[02:51] <HappyFool> hussam: 'man crontab'
[02:51] <resiak> liable: Vaguely.
[02:52] <Heimdall> HappyFool : this is the one with which I can be here :)
[02:52] <liable> resiak:htf do you run alsaconf for ubuntu?
[02:52] <topyli> masahiro: what are you trying to do exactly? there's no sound or what?
[02:52] <HappyFool> Heimdall: cool. you *should* be able to enable 'internet sharing' or something under win xp, to get your laptop online
[02:52] <BrianHH> kcburyshaker:  Sometimes different configurations have hardware issues.
[02:52] <HappyFool> Heimdall: but i'm not sure how that works
[02:52] <masahiro> yup no sound
[02:52] <masahiro> and cant fix at all
[02:52] <topyli> which card is it?
[02:52] <resiak> liable: You don't. You "don't need it. Discover always works". :)
[02:52] <lcore> metacity->config editor->global_keybindings: Howto bind a command to Win/Tux key?
[02:52] <masahiro> i dont know
[02:53] <Leeon> why isn't there any php5 -packages avalible?
[02:53] <Heimdall> HappyFool : apparently the netwok work, but I have to create a samba account to access to my laptop from XP
[02:53] <HappyFool> Heimdall: yeah
[02:53] <masahiro> Liable gave me some commands but i didnt understand the stuff it came up with
[02:53] <bob2> Leeon: there, are just not in ubuntu
[02:53] <liable> resiak: ok, there isnt a 'alsaconf'?
[02:53] <masahiro> im pretty sure its realtek though
[02:53] <HappyFool> Heimdall: can't you use your 'normal' account -- 'heimdall', or whatever it might be?
[02:53] <Heimdall> HappyFool : I never been able to do it with two win, so imagine to share my connection with my ubuntu :-D
[02:53] <topyli> masahiro: try lspci | grep audio
[02:53] <kbrooks> Leeon, because none at debian has arsed to generate some? google php 5 debian
[02:53] <Danar> uh, i installed xine, and it says it doesn't support MPEG 2/3. wtf?
[02:53] <Heimdall> HappyFool : hum... it does not look very secure
[02:54] <masahiro> and it just prompts : root@computer:/home/ashley #
[02:54] <topyli> Danar: no codecs
[02:54] <bob2> lists are back
[02:54] <resiak> liable: Nope. It's dumb.
[02:54] <Leeon> okey :)
[02:54] <Danar> topyli, yeah... apparently. so.. ?
[02:54] <HappyFool> Heimdall: then create another user on your laptop, and use smbpasswd on that account
[02:54] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you can always disable logins for the extra account
[02:54] <kcburyshaker> is there any way to get evolution to sit in the "system tray" so it is always "on"
[02:54] <thoreauputic> bob2: yah, the avalanche has resumed...
[02:54] <Heimdall> HappyFool : it is done :)
[02:54] <liable> resiak: trying to help masahiro but I have come up against a brick wall. Loaded what *I* think is the right module, but no alsaconf.
[02:55] <Heimdall> HappyFool : it is working well :)
[02:55] <HappyFool> Heimdall: good stuff
[02:55] <topyli> !codecs
[02:55] <ubotu> methinks codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:55] <resiak> liable: Add to /etc/modules, reboot?
[02:55] <topyli> Danar: ^
[02:55] <thoreauputic> liable: no alsaconf in Ubuntu
[02:55] <masahiro> BRB
[02:56] <Heimdall> HappyFool : yeaaah :) in fact I'm configuring network because my next modem will be plugged on my RJ45 port
[02:56] <XandriX> stupid old box with low meme taking hours to do the final steps
[02:56] <XandriX> ...
[02:56] <resiak> thoreauputic: We've just been through that
[02:56] <liable> thoreauputic: how does it get configured. During boot?
[02:56] <spity> hi
[02:56] <liable> shit,
[02:56] <spity> anyone using Hoary? Just wanted to ask whether you have problems with XKB with recent xorg
[02:57] <liable> masahiro: you listening, you need to add that module to /etc/modules and reboot
[02:57] <liable> masahiro: *if* its the right one!
[02:57] <liable> I thought ubuntu picked hardware up well?
[02:58] <resiak> liable: Not always, it seems. I've almost stopped recommending it over Sarge to newbies
[02:58] <ompaul> liable, it is liable to pick up hardware well, I have it on three boxes I support
[02:58] <Heimdall> HappyFool : do you know how toa ccess to the network in the cmmand line way ?
[02:59] <ompaul> liable, what h/ware is it not picking up?
[02:59] <Danar> thx, think i got it
[02:59] <liable> hmm, funny thing is, he had a sony_acpi module loaded on a hp desktop?
[02:59] <liable> doesnt sound good
[02:59] <ompaul> ooch
[02:59] <liable> ompaul: sound
[03:00] <ompaul> liable, how many sound cards are on it?
[03:00] <liable> 1
[03:00] <liable> one sec
[03:01] <liable> 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)
[03:01] <HappyFool> Heimdall: you mean accessing shares ?
[03:01] <kestas> can you change a users user id?
[03:01] <ompaul> so it found it
[03:01] <splatboy> hi
[03:01] <Heimdall> yes
[03:01] <splatboy> where could i find my grub-config ?
[03:01] <kestas> Heimdall: how?
[03:01] <HappyFool> Heimdall: smbclient on linux
[03:01] <Heimdall> like in shortcuts
[03:01] <thoreauputic> splatboy: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:01] <splatboy> thx
[03:01] <splatboy> kiss
[03:01] <splatboy> :)
[03:01] <rc51woody> morning room
[03:01] <liable> from what I seen should be a azt module (or whatever it is )
[03:01] <HappyFool> Heimdall: like this: smbclient //windowsmachine/sharename -U username
[03:02] <HappyFool> Heimdall: for nautilus and firefox you can use smb://windowsmachinename/sharename
[03:02] <HappyFool> Heimdall: not sure if i've answered your question
[03:03] <Heimdall> not sure too :-D
[03:03] <rc51woody> hey in my synaptic, it says it could not download all repository indexes... what should i do
[03:03] <m-onkey> High|ander, I've got a problem with mounting my floppy
[03:04] <m-onkey> s/High|ander/hi
[03:04] <thoreauputic> rc51woody: check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:04] <m-onkey> mount /dev/fd0 /flopyy doesnt work but mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /flopyy works
[03:04] <bob2> liable: I'm not sure what it's supposed to do on any os
[03:05] <m-onkey> somebody here who knows the problem?
[03:05] <ompaul> liable,  I had a different issue with sound but this may help
[03:05] <liable> hmmm, well, if it detects a just loaded soundcard in debian, how does it get detected in ubuntu?
[03:06] <Heimdall> HappyFool : ok I have put my ubuntu in english it will be easier to comunicate..., well I wanna do in console mode what I can do from "places->network servers"
[03:06] <HappyFool> Heimdall: smbclient is a useful tool for this
[03:06] <rc51woody> thoreaupatic: im in that directory, what do i do now?
[03:06] <HappyFool> Heimdall: try also 'smbtree'
[03:06] <HappyFool> Heimdall: e.g., to list shares on a computer, try 'smbclient -L windowsmachine'
[03:06] <ompaul> can I message you the /etc/esound/esd.conf
[03:06] <liable> ompaul: me?
[03:06] <ompaul> liable, yes
[03:06] <thoreauputic> rc51woody: less sources.list and check it for errors?
[03:06] <liable> ompaul: ok, not me having the problem though.
[03:07] <ompaul> ahh
[03:07] <Heimdall> HappyFool : smbtree do that too :)
[03:07] <bob2> liable: it doesn't do that on debian, either
[03:07] <ompaul> liable, who is
[03:07] <bob2> liable: hotplug or discover loads the module for it
[03:07] <HappyFool> Heimdall: to be honest i've never used smbtree
[03:07] <HappyFool> ok, i'm off
[03:07] <liable> ompaul: masahiro
[03:07] <Heimdall> :)
[03:07] <kimonas> yes
[03:07] <liable> bob2: yes, but its not being loded, and appears to be suppoted.
[03:07] <liable> supported
[03:08] <liable> loaded too
[03:08] <rc51woody> only thing thats different from the original is the there are no #'s in front of the last 3 lines
[03:08] <thoreauputic> rc51woody: or paste it in #flood and someone might see a problem, if there is one
[03:08] <liable> sheesh
[03:08] <splatboy> go another question : i'm used to use lilo bootloader : do i need to run a command like : grub or so : to write it to my mbr ?
[03:08] <splatboy> or is just saving config file enough ?
[03:08] <bob2> liable: if hotplug doesn't load the module, it's very unlikely modprobe will work, either
[03:08] <ompaul> this may be of use:: [esd] , auto_spawn=1, spawn_wait_ms=100, default_options = -terminate -nobeeps -as 2    the commas indicate different lines
[03:09] <m-onkey> grub-install
[03:09] <jnoreiko> slight hitch... upgrading to hoary hasn't updated my repositories. is it just http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ with hoary instead of warty for the distro name?
[03:09] <thoreauputic> splatboy: you don't need to run grub, no
[03:09] <ralph> Hi, I'm trying to use bugzilla.ubuntu.com and finding it *very* slow;  is this a known problem or just me?
[03:09] <liable> bob2: modprobe didnt complain though
[03:09] <splatboy> what do i need to do ?
[03:09] <splatboy> just save the config-file ?
[03:09] <bob2> ralph: are you on dialup?
[03:09] <thoreauputic> splatboy: oh sorry I misread you
[03:09] <splatboy> ?
[03:09] <ralph> bob2: Yes, although it's just like pre-Ubuntu speed-wise for Google, BBC News, etc.
[03:10] <bob2> ralph: yeah, bugzilla will suck
[03:10] <ralph> bob2: I've got around the ttyS0 being 9600 baud by default if that's what you're thinking of.
[03:10] <ompaul> launchpad is much nicer for bugs
[03:10] <bob2> launchpad is still quite incomplete, tho
[03:10] <liable> maybe I should just shut up about hardware I dont have, on a system I dont have. :)
[03:10] <heiko_> hi ...
[03:11] <bob2> but they're doing excellent work on it
[03:11] <heiko_> I've got some problems with video playback on 5.04
[03:11] <ompaul> bob2, ohh no, will it be as clunky as bugzilla? ;-)
[03:11] <ompaul> it is sweet
[03:11] <heiko_> xmms does play sound, but vlc doesn't. here's the error ...
[03:11] <bob2> ompaul: not while I'm still around to bitch ;p
[03:11] <ompaul> bob2, hehehe
[03:11] <Addius> well that could have gone better, I'll try writing my problem again ~_~
[03:11] <masahiro> im back
[03:12] <heiko_> [00000276]  oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)
[03:12] <heiko_> /dev/dsp does exist. any idea what's wrong here?
[03:12] <topyli> heiko_: maybe xmms knows you're using esd but vlc doesn't
[03:12] <heiko_> (am I?)
[03:13] <topyli> heiko_: try killing esd and try vlc after that
[03:13] <heiko_> okay
[03:13] <Addius> I'm getting 'operation not permitted' when doing a 'modprobe ndiswrapper', anyone who could hint me in the right direction?
[03:13] <bob2> Addius: so, you enabled the root account?
[03:13] <liable> masahiro: good luck, outa ideas. :(
[03:14] <heiko_> topyli, it works now. thanks
[03:14] <masahiro> what was that about modules?
[03:14] <Addius> bob2: nopes, I've tried but I haven't figured out how to do that in ubuntu yet, heh..
[03:14] <topyli> heiko_: yeah, but now esd doesn't work :)
[03:14] <bob2> Addius: odd
[03:14] <heiko_> topyli, but how can i fix that permanently?
[03:15] <topyli> heiko_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8882
[03:15] <Saketzu> my ISA sound card SB AWE64 Gold doesn't work, does anyone have ideas for that? (i'm using Hoary, Linux 2.6.10-5-386)
[03:15] <bob2> that will be painful
[03:15] <bob2> you don't have any pci sound cards?
[03:15] <Saketzu> well, ac97 on the motherboard
[03:15] <masahiro> liable masahiro: you listening, you need to add that module to /etc/modules and reboot
[03:16] <masahiro> what was that about? cos i am here now
[03:16] <Saketzu> but AWE64 Gold has *great* sound quality... guess i'll have to use ac97, if it doesn't work in hoary
[03:17] <liable> masahiro: the snd-azt3328 module, try it, I have no better advice. Sorry.
[03:17] <bob2> Saketzu: it works fine
[03:17] <bob2> it's just not automatic
[03:18] <masahiro> how do i put it on? or do i just google for it?
[03:18] <Saketzu> bob2: how can i set it up? I can't see isapnptools...
[03:19] <masahiro> liable masahiro: the snd-azt3328 module, try it, I have no better advice. Sorry. - Anybody know how to do that?
[03:19] <bob2> Saketzu: its there
[03:20] <Danar> still can't play media
[03:20] <Danar> mplayer does nothing, and xine plays video, but not audio
[03:21] <Saketzu> bob2: should i use oss?
[03:21] <bob2> Saketzu: I don't know
[03:21] <NicP> danar what u trying to play
[03:21] <Danar> a video file
[03:21] <NicP> can you be more specific
[03:22] <Danar> first time i tried to play it in xine, it said it couldn't play mpeg 2/3
[03:22] <Danar> got codecs, and now it plays without that, but there's no sound
[03:22] <NicP> have u installed the win32 codecs
[03:22] <Danar> yeah
[03:22] <NicP> have u tried in totem?
[03:22] <NicP> is there sound in other apps?
[03:23] <Danar> there's sound when i click to run programs
[03:23] <NicP> ok
[03:23] <Danar> makes that *bop* sound
[03:23] <NicP> so did u try in totem?
[03:23] <Danar> er, no
[03:23] <NicP> well go for it then
[03:23] <Danar> doing so
[03:24] <Danar> no decoders found
[03:24] <Heimdall> I'd like to make a little command that mount the floppy and open a nautilus window, but it does not work, wy ? because one has to be root ?
[03:25] <NicP> wierd
[03:25] <NicP> works fine for me with all my video files
[03:25] <NicP> prehaps check the forums
[03:25] <Danar> totem won't play anything
[03:25] <NicP> really?
[03:25] <Danar> always says 'no decoders found'
[03:26] <Heimdall> well it works but only when I type it in a term
[03:26] <Addius> bob2: erhm, I got the root-account working, but while using that I still get the 'operation not permitted' and 'Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/.../ndiswrapper.ko)' when doing the modprobe..
[03:26] <bob2> Addius: sure, that won't help
[03:26] <bob2> I was just asking if you had
[03:26] <NicP> you followed the instructions on ubuntuguide.org when u installed the codecs?
[03:27] <Danar> er, from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats
[03:27] <Addius> bob2: heh, okay. But you wouldn't happen to know where to head from here?
[03:27] <Danar> got the repositories, and installed from synaptic
[03:27] <bob2> Addius: what does 'uname -r' print?
[03:27] <Danar>  -r, --kernel-release
[03:27] <Danar>               print the kernel release
[03:27] <Addius> bob2: 2.6.10-5-386
[03:28] <NicP> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[03:28] <Danar> heh, oops.
[03:28] <NicP> try that
[03:29] <NicP> otherwise i'm outta ideas
[03:29] <NicP> :P
[03:29] <bionic> uhm no grub.conf in ubuntu 5.04?
[03:29] <yahalom> anyone here using netgear products?
[03:29] <jnoreiko> is there a way to remove a package, and also its dependencies?
[03:30] <jnoreiko> I've just installed something I realize I don't need, and it fetched loads of other packages
[03:30] <yahalom> jnoreiko, tried removing it?
[03:30] <yahalom> jnoreiko, it might remove the dependencies
[03:31] <jnoreiko> no, it's only marked itself (in synaptic)
[03:31] <mjr>  ,30
[03:31] <mjr> whops
[03:31] <jnoreiko> failing that, is there a log file of what I've installed?
[03:33] <Danar> NicP, strange. now totem plays the audio, but not the video
[03:33] <Mez> so whats the easiest way to instlal javba?
[03:34] <olajuwon> yo! wazzup??
[03:34] <Heimdall> where can I find LeTeX2e package for ubuntu ?
[03:34] <Heimdall> where can I find LaTeX2e package for ubuntu ?
[03:35] <Mez> Heimdall, no need to spam
[03:35] <Heimdall> Mez sorry
[03:35] <Danar> arg, mplayer isn't responding, and won't close
[03:35] <Saketzu> killall -6 mplayer
[03:36] <Danar> that did nothing
[03:36] <Saketzu> killall -9 mplayer
[03:36] <Danar> mplayer: no process killed
[03:37] <Heimdall> so, nobody uses latex here ? :/
[03:37] <liable> try gmplayer
[03:37] <Danar> that did it
[03:37] <Danar> thx
[03:38] <Danar> well, xine plays it fine now
[03:38] <NicP> Heimdall, just learning latex
[03:38] <NicP> Danar, good to hear :)
[03:39] <Heimdall> NicP : where did you dowload the base package ?
[03:39] <Addius> meh, I'm still getting operation not permitted when trying to run 'modprobe ndiswrapper'.. would it make any sense if root didn't have access to /lib/modules/?
[03:40] <NicP> Heimdall, just been playing around with the frontends
[03:40] <liable> Addius: root has access to everything
[03:40] <NicP> searching stuff in synaptic
[03:41] <Heimdall> oh..
[03:41] <Danar> ok, thx ppl
[03:41] <Addius> liable: That's what I thought too.. In other words there's something else wrong and I'm just bad at interprating the Error-message
[03:41] <Heimdall> this is very odd, there is not package latex on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:42] <liable> Addius: wheres the drivers stored for ndiswrapper?
[03:42] <Addius> liable: you mean the one I'm trying to get working? I don't know actually, any way to check?
[03:42] <lsuactiafner> Heimdall : ubuntu developers are allergic to latex
[03:42] <lsuactiafner> try 'plastic'
[03:43] <jfil> hi, do u know how to regenerate/rebuild /var/lib/dpkg/info if been removed?
[03:43] <jfil> one option is reinstall all the packages
[03:43] <jfil> other one?
[03:43] <liable> Addius: erm, no, I dont know, didnt you copy the driver to somewhere?
[03:43] <ompaul> Heimdall, do this 'apt-cache search latex' one or two results for you
[03:43] <Addius> liable: you mean the windows-driver?
[03:43] <Heimdall> lsuactiafner : ok, but they should be openned
[03:44] <Heimdall> ompaul : berk
[03:44] <thoreauputic> !java
[03:44] <ubotu> somebody said java was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[03:44] <liable> Addius: yes
[03:44] <ompaul> Heimdall, hu?
[03:44] <Addius> liable: ah, I just put it in /lib/, didn't know of any better place to put it
[03:45] <Heimdall> ompaul : well this has nothing to do with latex :/
[03:45] <liable> Addius: did you follow some sort of howto?
[03:46] <Addius> liable: yeah, "HowToSetUpNdiswrapper" from the ubuntu-wiki
[03:46] <sherv> hello people, I encountered a problem installing Ubuntu on my laptop(Asus SN5), can anyone give me assistance?
[03:46] <jnoreiko> does synaptic keep a log of what it's installed?
[03:47] <anto9us> jnoreiko: click status and installed
[03:47] <liable> Addius: well, if its in the right spot, go over it all again, and double check.
[03:47] <jnoreiko> ... I meant a log that shows what was most recently added
[03:48] <XandriX> stupid low mem machine
[03:48] <HumpBack> any one out there has some pictures of the ubuntu cd pack?
[03:49] <sherv> I'm using a 'intel 915GM' graphic. The installation went fine, but when I boot the system, I only get a black screen when it tries to load X. Does ANYONE have a clue?
[03:49] <Heimdall> so there are 500 persons here... and nobidy uses latex :-D
[03:49] <sherv> I use tex, maybe i can help
[03:50] <HumpBack> sherv: i use lyx
[03:50] <anto9us> jnoreiko: hmmm... looks like a installed date column would be handy in there
[03:50] <Heimdall> sherv : maybe... I'm looking for a website or ftp where I could download the package altex for ubuntu ?
[03:50] <HumpBack> uppps
[03:50] <HumpBack> Heimdall: I use lyx
[03:50] <Heimdall> what is lyx ?
[03:50] <Addius> liable: no, I'm still getting the same error =/
[03:50] <HumpBack> sherv: I have a i830, it is similar, same kernel module and driver
[03:51] <sherv> heimdall:ooh, sorry man do know
[03:51] <HumpBack> Heimdall: a nice wysiwyg editor that generates tex
[03:51] <Addius> liable: now ndiswrapper is claiming that the driver is invalid though, so I'm guessing this is pretty much as far as I can go if it doesn't work with the windows-driver
[03:51] <Heimdall> HumpBack oh ok, but I prefer type my own code with emacs :)
[03:51] <sherv> HumbBack: are you referring to my problem with 915GM?
[03:52] <Heimdall> HumpBack : but I need latex to compile
[03:53] <ompaul> Heimdall, I did not go out of my way to install extra packages, however be aware that latex -v results in the following e-TeX (Web2C 7.4.5) 3.14159-2.1 and the query I gave you to use on the apt database has 189 lines of potentially useful information this is ubuntu hoary
[03:53] <sherv> Heimdall: if you only need a tex compiler, why don't you use 'dselect'?
[03:53] <Addius> liable: anyways, thanks for the help
[03:54] <HumpBack> sherv: if you want i can send you my xorg conf, it will probably work with some tweaking for you
[03:54] <sherv> Humbpack: please do
[03:56] <liable> Addius: got the right file? for the driver, theres two, and one doesnt work
[03:56] <Heimdall> sherv : I only know latex, come from windows
[03:57] <JloR> I'm having some serious problems with my new (2 weeks old.. approx.) ubuntu install. My desktop icons are gone - and i can't start Nautilus anymore, nor can i right-click on my desktop to gain that menu where I could choose to start shells etc. Does anyone know how to fix this? Or what might be causing it?
[03:57] <Addius> liable: the right file? I'm supposed to use the windowsdriver from the manufacturor ain't I?
[03:58] <liable> Addius: yes but there is two files generally I think. I havent actualyy used ndiwrapper, but read there is generally two files.
[03:58] <sherv> sorry, Humpback, please try again,
[03:58] <rc51woody> once i install java
[03:58] <rc51woody> how do i ensure firefox knows i have it?
[03:59] <Addius> liable: okay, no I was supplied with only one .inf file
[03:59] <sherv> Heimdall: tex is a more general term for latex. do you know how to install packages on linux?
[04:00] <liable> Addius: ok, if my memory serves me right, thats the right one.
[04:00] <android> I have a problem with LimeWire.. It says: Unable to access jarfile LimeWire.jar
[04:00] <HumpBack> sherv: latex is a set of macros for tex
[04:00] <ompaul> JloR, before you try to start the next session do this click on session and choose gnome over default, if that does not fix it then you may need to take some other action, have you added some software or removed some that you know of?
[04:01] <Addius> liable: is there any chance that perhaps an older driver might work better?
[04:01] <shop> hi dark its shopgirl
[04:01] <JloR> ompaul, I haven't removed any - but I have added a few things (games / programs / java / drivers / etc. -- and upgraded what was on it of course)
[04:01] <Seveas> sherv, tex isn't a more general term for latex
[04:01] <Heimdall> sherv : apt-get ?
[04:02] <Seveas> latex is a set of macros for tex
[04:02] <sherv> Heimdall: sure, anything you like, I use dselect
[04:02] <Heimdall> Seveas : yes itis different
[04:02] <ompaul> JloR, okay well try what I suggested first if that fails I would try 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' in a terminal
[04:02] <Seveas> sherv, dselect is deprecated :)
[04:02] <sherv> Seveas, ohh ok
[04:02] <liable> Addius: sorry dude, absolutely no idea.
[04:02] <Seveas> better use aptitude if you want a curese based application
[04:02] <Heimdall> Seveas : but, how can it be possible that ubuntu does not propose latex packages ?
[04:03] <neighborlee> is the concensus that reiserfs is safe ..I  aSsume it is or it would not be available in install ? ;-))
[04:03] <JloR> thanks ompaul - but last time I tried to logout it didn't work. I had to ctrl-alt-del my way to the login screen. Will try what you suggested. Be back later.
[04:03] <Seveas> Heimdall, it does :)
[04:03] <amr> does anyone here know how to install mod_python for apache2? i've tried with absolutely no success
[04:03] <ompaul> Heimdall, have you typed 'laytex' at a command line yet? because from what I have seen it just works
[04:03] <amr> is there an apt package i can just install?
[04:03] <Addius> liable: aff, then I'll have to go back to getting the 'native' driver working. Thanks for the help though!
[04:03] <Heimdall> Seveas : well not in the cd, nor in the packages.ubuntu.com
[04:03] <Seveas> Heimdall, tetex-{base,bin,doc,extra}
[04:03] <coriolan_> hello all, i have a little question: i have two computers and I want to use one with firewire from the other. i managed to ping the other computer with eth1394 but then what am i supposed to do?
[04:04] <Seveas> Ubuntu provides the tetex distribution of latex
[04:04] <Heimdall> Seveas ? tetex ? latex ? I havenothing
[04:04] <ompaul> xemacs21 <-- for the good gnus
[04:05] <Seveas> Heimdall, it's in base, are you sure you have installing from the network enabled?
[04:05] <Seveas> it's in main*
[04:05] <JloR> didn't help the least.. :/
[04:05] <Heimdall> Seveas ; sorry, I don't understand
[04:05] <ompaul> JloR, next up apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:05] <JloR> yea, thanks.
[04:05] <Seveas> Heimdall, type: apt-cache show tetex-base
[04:06] <amr> does anyone here know how to install mod_python for apache2? i've tried with absolutely no success
[04:06] <amr> is there an apt package i can just install?
[04:06] <Seveas> if that shows nothing, you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:06] <Seveas> amr, libapache2-mod-python
[04:06] <Heimdall> Seveas : no packages found
[04:06] <amr> Seveas, thank you very much :)
[04:06] <JloR> hmm, ompaul it just told me that it already is newest version and that it didn't upgrade anything..
[04:06] <Seveas> Heimdall: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:06] <Seveas> follow that guide
[04:06] <ompaul> JloR, okay then it has not been uninstalled :-)
[04:06] <Seveas> Heimdall: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[04:07] <JloR> :-) no
[04:07] <Seveas> and add these sources
[04:07] <ompaul> JloR, ohh hang on a sec
[04:07] <JloR> sure
[04:08] <ompaul> JloR, something funny in the back of my mind - do this - ls -al ~gkxjmrep/.I*
[04:08] <amr> Seveas, that didn't work
[04:08] <ompaul> JloR, who owns that file?
[04:08] <amr> Apache/2.0.53 (Ubuntu) mod_python/3.1.3 Python/2.4.1 PHP/4.3.10-10ubuntu4 Server at localhost Port 80
[04:08] <amr> is that any use to you?
[04:08] <amr> :o different versions of python
[04:09] <Seveas> amr, it says you have mod_python installed there...
[04:09] <ompaul> JloR, it should be your local user
[04:09] <JloR> no such file or directory..
[04:09] <Heimdall> Seveas : my linux isn't connected to the web
[04:09] <amr> so the .py file should just work, yea?
[04:09] <ompaul> JloR, okay
[04:09] <Seveas> mod_py 3.1.3 using py 2.4.1
[04:09] <amr> Seveas, is that ok?
[04:10] <amr> or do i need to do that AddType in the config
[04:10] <Seveas> amr, yes. But you do know that programming with mod_python is completely different from programming with python as cgi, i hope..
[04:10] <Seveas> Heimdall, then download the tetex packages from packages.ubuntu.com on another machine
[04:10] <Seveas> and transfer them via cd or usb stick
[04:10] <amr> Seveas, yeah I do, but it just asks me if i want to download the file
[04:11] <Seveas> amr, you should use an AddHandler etc..
[04:11] <Heimdall> yeah but is tetex the same thing that 'latex' ?
[04:11] <Seveas> read the mod_python docs...
[04:11] <Seveas> Heimdall, tetex is a distribution for latex
[04:11] <Seveas> so basically: yes
[04:11] <amr> Seveas, oki, thanks :)
[04:11] <Heimdall> okay
[04:12] <maybe> hi, i've deleted /var/lib/dpkg/info!!! how can i rebuild it?? please help me this is very important for me
[04:13] <HumpBack> maybe: why on earth did you do that?
[04:13] <XandriX> i orderd them in april ...
[04:13] <neighborlee> any reason why the website to order CD's doesn't use https ???
[04:13] <lsuactiafner> i once removed glibc to see if it would indeed break my system..
[04:13] <maybe> i'm not expert, HumpBack
[04:14] <lsuactiafner> and it did..
[04:14] <lsuactiafner> lol
[04:14] <Seveas> maybe, then why the hell did you touch it at all??
[04:14] <sherv> Has anyONe out there had any 'black screens' when starting X using the intel 916GM chipset?
[04:14] <maybe> Seveas, want to solve it... i thought its content was not important, temporal
[04:15] <Seveas> maybe, then again, why remove things you don't understand...
[04:15] <Seveas> maybe, dpkg --update-avail /var/lib/apt/lists/ might help you...
[04:16] <amr> hmm
[04:16] <Seveas> or maybe even a simple apt-get update
[04:16] <amr> it appears mptest or something is broken
[04:16] <dougsk> maybe, try this link http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/examples/debian-package-database-rebuild
[04:16] <amr> Mod_python error: "PythonHandler mptest"
[04:17] <Seveas> ehm ouch, maybe
[04:17] <Seveas> /var/lib/dpkg/info os only recoverable by reinstalling Ubuntu
[04:17] <Seveas> that's what you get for doing things you should *never* do
[04:18] <sniker> hi, anyones have experience with the package timeout for amd64?
[04:18] <Seveas> hmm dougsk that script looks nice
[04:18] <dantheman64> I am trying to install ATI modules/drivers for my graphics card. When I do "apt-get install fglrx-driver" it has two options
[04:18] <dantheman64> Which do I choose?
[04:19] <dougsk> Seveas, just googled a bit.  never personally had to use it
[04:19] <Seveas> dougsk, but I guess someone like maybe might have deleted /usr/share/doc as well...
[04:19] <dougsk> Seveas, yeah, that could happen and then it falls down
[04:20] <Seveas> some people do too stupid things to imagine...
[04:20] <dougsk> Seveas, yeah, but I suppose it's how we learn
[04:21] <Seveas> no, learning these things should be done with manuals/documentation
[04:21] <Seveas> not by randomly removing stuff...
[04:22] <dougsk> Seveas, heh heh
[04:24] <Rounin> Hey... I installed Ubuntu on my laptop a while ago, but when it came to booting it up, it killed init, citing some problem with the graphics I believe... Anyone have any idea what that could be about?
[04:24] <Rounin> Could I have fixed it by booting with nofb or something in that order?
[04:25] <dantheman64> Rounin, have you tried booting into the recovery mode and looking at the logs?
[04:25] <musashi> Anyone have a good tutorial for making clearlooks themes?
[04:25] <dantheman64> musashi, there might be something at http://art.gnome.org/
[04:25] <musashi> ok!
[04:27] <gabriel82> how can i install kde on ubuntu?
[04:27] <dougsk> gabriel82, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:27] <Seveas> gabriel82, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[04:27] <dantheman64> It might be easier to use the packager manager, no?
[04:27] <gabriel82> thank you guys
[04:27] <Rounin> dantheman64: Nah... I nistalled Fedora Core instead... :P I wonder if I have a partition where I could try again though
[04:28] <Seveas> Rounin, FC4 is a spawn of the devil :)
[04:28] <Rounin> Seems to be a pretty normal distro to me
[04:28] <Rounin> Though with a EULA, of course, and about 90 package tools
[04:29] <dougsk> Seveas, except it has Xen, and Netscape directory server, thigns I'm very much interested in trying
[04:29] <Seveas> and packed with incompatibility madness :)
[04:29] <kcburyshaker> lol
[04:29] <kcburyshaker> i almost downloaded fc4 instead of ubuntu
[04:30] <kcburyshaker> sounds like i made the right choice
[04:30] <Rounin> Yeah.. Thing is, FC4 didn't induce a kernel panic on the first bootup
[04:30] <Rounin> I'm going to see if I can't try Ubuntu again though
[04:30] <Rounin> Perhaps I have an older version
[04:30] <Seveas> Rounin, you might have been bitten by the initrd bug that was present for a week in the kernel packages :)
[04:31] <Seveas> did it say: VFS not syncing, attempying to kill init
[04:31] <Seveas> or pivot_root: $something not found
[04:31] <Rounin> Seveas: Ah!
[04:31] <Rounin> That seems possible
[04:31] <Rounin> Cheers
[04:32] <Seveas> Rounin, on what type of harddisk were you installing Ubuntu?
[04:32] <chrisxp> wtf is ubuntu?
[04:32] <kcburyshaker> lol
[04:32] <cyphase> a Linux distro
[04:32] <kcburyshaker> something that made me uninstall winxp
[04:32] <Echylo> hmm
[04:32] <cyphase> lol kc
[04:32] <Echylo> in our language they say "hello" when they come in a channel
[04:33] <Echylo> not 'wtf is ???"
[04:33] <chrisxp> hello
[04:33] <chrisxp> hello
[04:33] <Seveas> chrisxp, Ubuntu is an african word that means Humanity to Others
[04:33] <Echylo> :)
[04:33] <chrisxp> hello hello , hi, how r u, hello
[04:33] <cyphase> or hi, or hey, or something that starts with an h
[04:33] <cyphase> :)
[04:33] <Heimdall> ubuntu is really not a developper/scientist distribution, ther is not even gnuplot :):):)
[04:33] <chrisxp> hmmm
[04:33] <Seveas> Heimdall, of course there is...
[04:33] <chrisxp> heil hitler!
[04:33] <chrisxp> it starts with h
[04:33] <cyphase> Heimdall, maybe not by default
[04:33] <Echylo> lel
[04:33] <Heimdall> Seveas : not by default
[04:33] <Echylo> that was quick
[04:33] <Seveas> Heimdall, of course not
[04:34] <Heimdall> and worst, no in the cd !!!!
[04:34] <kcburyshaker> seems he was a troublemaker
[04:34] <Seveas> Heimdall, how many people will use it?
[04:34] <Heimdall> Seveas : of course ??
[04:34] <Heimdall> Seveas : I don't know... me everyday :-D
[04:34] <Seveas> Heimdall, it's not used by enough people to be included on the cd
[04:34] <cyphase> Heimdall, it's in universe
[04:34] <Seveas> the CD has limited space...
[04:34] <Heimdall> Seveas : but it could be on the cd
[04:34] <Heimdall> Seveas : well do more cds
[04:35] <cyphase> Heimdall, there should be only one cd
[04:35] <kcburyshaker> lol
[04:35] <Heimdall> Seveas : how many people don't have internet connection ?
[04:35] <Echylo> what is gnuplot btw?
[04:35] <Seveas> Heimdall, no, Ubuntu is and probably always will be one cd
[04:35] <cyphase> Heimdall, how many people need gnuplot
[04:35] <Seveas> Echylo, apt-cache show gnuplot
[04:35] <Seveas> :)
[04:35] <znh> AAAH WIRELESS WORKS !!
[04:35] <kcburyshaker> i think it is a goal of ubuntu to be on one cd   makes things simpler for humanity
[04:35] <Heimdall> Seveas : I think this is a big problem with linux.. if you don't have the internet access... you're lost
[04:35] <dougsk> Heimdall, they do a dvd make a dvd.
[04:35] <mark_> I installed zsnes and dosbox from the Package Manager but where does it put the installed files?
[04:35] <Echylo> oh I see
[04:35] <Seveas> Heimdall, same goes for windows...
[04:35] <cyphase> Heimdall, same with windows
[04:35] <Echylo> that explains the plot :p
[04:36] <cyphase> lol
[04:36] <Seveas> mark_, dpkg -L zsnes
[04:36] <Heimdall> Seveas ? with windows what ?
[04:36] <kcburyshaker> well   one thing for windows   if you dont have internet access   you cant get viruses
[04:36] <mark_> Seveas, do I put that in the terminal?
[04:36] <Echylo> not all software is included with windows
[04:36] <Seveas> Heimdall, how are you going to install software on windows without internet connection?
[04:36] <Heimdall> lol
[04:36] <cyphase> you'll get problems in windows and not even have an internet connection
[04:36] <kcburyshaker> true that too
[04:36] <Echylo> you get even problems looking at it
[04:37] <Heimdall> Seveas : you buy it :p
[04:37] <Seveas> mark_, yes
[04:37] <kcburyshaker> if you blink at the monitor wrong   winblows will crash
[04:37] <mark_> ok
[04:37] <cyphase> Heimdall, then but gnuplot
[04:37] <cyphase> ;)
[04:37] <cyphase> buy*
[04:37] <Heimdall> lol :)
[04:37] <Seveas> Heimdall, so, for linux you replace buy with download in an internetcafe and burn
[04:37] <Heimdall> okay okay okay you win :)
[04:37] <Seveas> costs you money too...
[04:37] <dougsk> Heimdall, I suppose you could buy a set of disks from cheapbytes
[04:37] <mark_> excellent thanks Seveas! :)
[04:37] <Seveas> and GNU software can be ordered on CD from the Free Software Foundation...
[04:38] <Heimdall> Seveas : it is surely less accessible for "base people"
[04:38] <Echylo> and how are you gonna order it?
[04:38] <kcburyshaker> thats GNUrific!
[04:38] <Echylo> without internet?
[04:38] <cyphase> phone
[04:38] <Seveas> Echylo, by writing a letter to the FSF
[04:38] <cyphase> or mail
[04:38] <kcburyshaker> smoke signals
[04:38] <Echylo> wooh
[04:38] <Echylo> writing letters
[04:38] <cyphase> morse code
[04:38] <mark_> its a hell of a lot faster with OpenGL in Ubuntu too and completely fullscreen
[04:38] <Chronos1> ok...looking for a linux/laptop guru...older Dell laptop hangs after the first three language choice screen
[04:39] <Chronos1> don't know linux well enough yet to figure out whats going on next
[04:40] <Seveas> Chronos1, which screen do you mean?
[04:40] <Echylo> install screen? :)
[04:40] <Seveas> in the installer?
[04:40] <Chronos1> after the boot..you get three screens...default is us...english...
[04:41] <Chronos1> there are three screens that you have those choices
[04:41] <Seveas> Chronos1, if this is the install/live CD, try booting with different acpi options
[04:41] <Seveas> like acpi=off
[04:43] <green-> how do you get root file privs/root term in ubuntu shell ... X died and I need root priv to change the xorg.conf
[04:43] <lsuactiafner> btw, nforce4 chipset temperature sensors.. anyone got it workin?
[04:43] <lsuactiafner> 0000:00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation CK804 SMBus (rev a2)
[04:43] <Seveas> green-, use sudo
[04:43] <green-> danke
[04:43] <Seveas> green: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:45] <redlounge> hi. anyone can tell me how to set the screen resolution at booting to 1400x1050?
[04:45] <green-> anyone else have ubuntu on their laptop and have issues w/ X not coming back after a lid close?
[04:45] <lsuactiafner> redlounge : edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:46] <Seveas> redlounge, you mean during bootup or the graphical stuff starting with the login screen?
[04:46] <redlounge> lsuactiafner: during boot process?
[04:46] <redlounge> during boot
[04:46] <Seveas> redlounge, you need to add a framebuffer option to the #kopt line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:46] <redlounge> Seveas: X is ok
[04:47] <Seveas> redlounge, ah ok, well, that doesn't hold for X :)
[04:47] <Seveas> for X it's simply what lsuactiafner said :)
[04:48] <lukus001> I just downlaoded real player and installed it.   When i goto applications>Sound & video>Real player nothing happens
[04:48] <Rounin> Seveas: I dunno, my internal laptop hard disk
[04:48] <redlounge> Seveas: isnt it the option vga=xxx?
[04:48] <green-> anyone have DVDs playing in ubuntu - if so, how? :)
[04:48] <Seveas> Rounin, ah ok that's no fancy stuff, so yeah you got bitten by that bug :)
[04:48] <Seveas> redlounge, yes
[04:48] <Seveas> lukus001, try starting it from the terminal
[04:49] <lukus001> Seveas: how do i do that via terminal?
[04:49] <Demian___> hello
[04:50] <Seveas> lukus001, try to figure out the command to start it
[04:50] <Demian___> does anyone know a working torrent for the linux install cd?
[04:50] <Micksa> remind me, when is breezy due for release?
[04:50] <Echylo> october?
[04:50] <Seveas> in the terminal type real and hit tab twice for tab completion suggestions
[04:50] <Echylo> dunno for sure
[04:50] <Seveas> october
[04:50] <d0nk`> Demian___: check ubuntu.com
[04:50] <Rounin> Seveas: Thanks for the help though! I feel like trying again now... Fedora Core is nice and all, but it's still just a byproduct of a corporation
[04:51] <gabriel82> how can i unistall all the packages that were installed with kubuntu-desktop?
[04:52] <Demian___> d0nk`,  that one doesn't work
[04:52] <lukus001> Seveas: I dont know :s
[04:52] <Demian___> that's why I ask
[04:52] <d0nk`> that torrent?
[04:52] <bethor> hi. How can I leave a process running after logging out of a ssh session?
[04:52] <d0nk`> odd... i downloaded it the other day
[04:52] <MDM> how can I share folders from a windows computer like mapped drives?
[04:53] <d0nk`> samba
[04:53] <XandriX> what does netdev watchdog eth0 transmit times out meen ??
[04:53] <Rounin> bethor: With screen I suppose
[04:53] <lsuactiafner> bethor : screen run_process
[04:53] <resiak> gabriel82: deborphan ?
[04:53] <lsuactiafner> then screen -d
[04:53] <lsuactiafner> and then exit ssh
[04:53] <lukus001> Seveas: i get a bunch of errors or somin running from terminal
[04:54] <bethor> Rounin, lsuactiafner, thanks. I am rtfm :-)
[04:54] <gabriel82> resiak: what's that?
[04:54] <resiak> gabriel82: apt-cache show deborphan
[04:54] <Demian___> is there a working torrent anywhere?
[04:54] <Demian___> and can someone direct me to it :)
[04:54] <Demian___> please
[04:55] <Demian___> it's taking me three hours to download the iso
[04:55] <gabriel82> resiak: how do i use it?
[04:55] <Demian___> and I know it'll go faster with azureus
[04:55] <MDM> how do I enable vsync in the nvidia drivers?
[04:55] <resiak> gabriel82: Install it, then man deborphan
[04:55] <xinud> great work Kubuntu team !! congrats
[04:55] <gabriel82> resiak: thanks
[04:56] <nicolette_> hi
[04:56] <resiak> gabriel82: The manual will tell you more
[04:56] <Seveas> lukus001, can you paste the errors at paste.ubuntulinux.nl please
[04:56] <XandriX> does anyone know what does netdev watchdog eth0 transmit times out meen ??
[04:57] <Seveas> gabriel82, deborphan is quite useless for you
[04:57] <lukus001> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/125
[04:57] <Seveas> gabriel82, try debfoster instead :)
[04:57] <Seveas> lukus001, have you tried installing your own themes/theme engine?
[04:58] <resiak> Seveas: Hmm?
[04:58] <lukus001> Seveas: don't think so...i don't know what that is
[04:58] <Seveas> resiak?
[04:58] <resiak> Seveas: Why is deborphan useless?
[04:58] <Seveas> resiak, deborphan only lists things
[04:59] <Seveas> debfoster is a great tool for uninstaling unneeded stuff
[04:59] <resiak> Seveas: apt-get remove `deborphan` ?
[04:59] <Seveas> lukus001, try: sudo aptitude install gtk2-engines-smooth
[04:59] <Seveas> resiak, eeek
[04:59] <newbie_linux> hello
[04:59] <lsuactiafner> wow my neighbor is hot
[04:59] <Seveas> that'll remove all orphans
[04:59] <Seveas> and not recurse
[04:59] <newbie_linux> is there an easy way where i can reinstall ubuntu?
[04:59] <lsuactiafner> screw linux, i'm going to put effort into meeting her..
[04:59] <znh> lsuactiafner: peeping at your neightbor :P ?
[04:59] <resiak> Seveas: Hmm, true. I use aptitude, so :)
[04:59] <flodine> can i install kubuntu with my ubuntu
[04:59] <Seveas> debfoster lets you choose per orphan whether to keep, uninstall or recursive ly uninstall it
[05:00] <Seveas> resiak, even aptitude cannot handle everything :)
[05:00] <lsuactiafner> znh : sadly no, she came to ask if there was varsity church tonight
[05:00] <ivanox> which is the shortcut to switch between virtual desktops?
[05:00] <newbie_linux> or is there a way where i can put Ubuntu back to the way it was in the beginning?
[05:00] <znh> ivanox: what wm?
[05:00] <lukus001> Seveas: just done that, it installed but realplayer still doesnt work
[05:00] <dantheman64> ivanox, you have to set it in System -> Prefs -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[05:00] <dantheman64> it's near the bottom of the list
[05:00] <Seveas> ivanox, look at system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[05:00] <lsuactiafner> most of the questions here is 'how do i play my favourite pron movie...'
[05:00] <dantheman64> I have Alt+(1-4) set for the defaults
[05:00] <flodine> how do i install KUBUNTU
[05:00] <dantheman64> Seavas ;-)
[05:00] <znh> lsuactiafner: so?
[05:01] <resiak> Seveas: Sure it can.
[05:01] <lsuactiafner> ubuntu should make one comamnd to install mplayer vlc ect and get it done with
[05:01] <Seveas> flodine, put the cd in your pc, boot and follow instructions...
[05:01] <znh> anyways anyone here got the rt2500 working?
[05:01] <lukus001> Seveas: actuall it didnt install anything by the looks but it done something ^
[05:01] <Seveas> resiak, changing dependencies on upgrades sometimes go unnoticed :)
[05:01] <flodine> seveas i already got ubuntu installed
[05:01] <Seveas> lukus001: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[05:01] <dantheman64> Hey all... does anyone know how to run Counter-Strike Source in Ubuntu?
[05:01] <Seveas> go there and see whether your problem is mentioned
[05:02] <Seveas> flodine, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[05:02] <resiak> Seveas: Hmm.
[05:02] <znh> dantheman64: steam doesn't work with wine
[05:02] <lukus001> Seveas: ok ill ahve a look there =)
[05:02] <jedipottsy> hey
[05:02] <dantheman64> znh: Thanks. What about Cedega?
[05:02] <znh> dantheman64: didn't try that one yet
[05:02] <jedipottsy> can someone give me a hand, with getting sound working? - how do i get the latest alsa drivers? ie what apt-get command
[05:02] <rc51woody> have a question
[05:03] <flodine> is kubuntu as good as ubuntu
[05:03] <znh> jedipottsy: alsa :)
[05:03] <dantheman64> znh, do you know anyone who got it to work at all?
[05:03] <ivanox> got cedega to work?
[05:03] <Seveas> flodine, it's basically the same distribution, so 'as good as' will merely depend on whether you like KDE or Gnome better
[05:03] <znh> dantheman64: nope.. you may try the non-steam version, but that's only for 1.6 (LAN ONLY)
[05:04] <ivanox> dantheman64, read query
[05:04] <jedipottsy> how do i update alsa drivers?
[05:04] <resiak> dantheman64: It works with Cedega, I hear
[05:05] <jedipottsy> apt-get install alsa?
[05:05] <znh> jedipottsy: that would install it yes
[05:05] <znh> resiak: does it?
[05:06] <resiak> znh: So I hear. That's why I said "It works with Cedega, I hear".
[05:06] <jedipottsy> znh, it says installed
[05:06] <masahiro> is it easy to get kde installed on ubuntu with out downloading kubuntu?
[05:06] <znh> resiak: horay, going to try that then
[05:06] <jedipottsy> znh, and cant be updated
[05:06] <znh> jedipottsy: congrats
[05:06] <znh> jedipottsy: why do you want to upgrade a up2date package?
[05:07] <jedipottsy> znh, but sound still dont work, and i followed the guide on ubuntuguide still dont work
[05:07] <jedipottsy> on FC4 - which sucks btw, i had to update the alsa drivers b4 it would work
[05:08] <green-> fc4 is fine, imho - red hat is just not a desktop distro, out of the box, as far as i see it.. other distros are much better for that
[05:09] <green-> fedora, rather
[05:09] <green-> what are you guys using to play dvds on ubuntu?
[05:09] <jedipottsy> i liked fc3, but the included gcc4 in fc4 makes things a pain
[05:10] <jedipottsy> o ye, how do i enable laptop featues? ie laptop suspend, and battery?
[05:11] <HWolf> jedipottsy, you're in for a rough ride, Ubuntu is converting to gcc4 for the next release
[05:11] <jedipottsy> ino, but hopefully by that time, most of the apps, will be gcc4 compatible - ie wine dont work
[05:12] <Zukero> hello
[05:12] <jedipottsy> hi
[05:13] <green-> jedipottsy: i'm embarking on the same laptop stuff.. when you figure out stuff.. /msg me :) bbl
[05:13] <jedipottsy> green-, sure
[05:13] <lsuactiafner> Read 7.1 of 11 KiB of data, 2 KiB/sec.
[05:13] <Zukero> i'm trying to set up a ftp server to exchange file with friends, i installes vsftpd, but i'm completely lost...
[05:13] <lsuactiafner> rofl
[05:14] <lsuactiafner> Zukero : proftpd is nicer
[05:14] <Zukero> well
[05:14] <Zukero> which one is nicer seems quite a personnal opinion
[05:14] <Zukero> i tried proftpd too
[05:14] <Zukero> and i'm as lost with one or another
[05:14] <lsuactiafner> proftpd will get you laid
[05:15] <Zukero> and
[05:15] <Zukero> will you be able to help me set proftpd up ?
[05:15] <jedipottsy> green-, however im unable to get wireless working on my IPN2200 and i have tried alot, so if u have an incompatible Wirelesscard, then u might not be able to get it working
[05:15] <Zukero> i really don't mind which one to use
[05:15] <Danar> um, i need some help...
[05:15] <lsuactiafner> Zukero : dont have time, eating and back to studyin
[05:15] <Danar> i'm trying to use gparted to resize a partition, and something went wrong
[05:15] <Zukero> ok
[05:15] <lsuactiafner> basically just lookin @ irc
[05:15] <Demian___> hello
[05:16] <Zukero> yeah i know this kind of stuff well :)
[05:16] <Demian___> can I install a new version of hoary over an old warty?
[05:16] <Danar> it said there was an error, that it was trying to act on a busy device
[05:16] <Seveas> Demian___, you can dist-upgrade to hoary
[05:16] <Danar> said it was mounted
[05:16] <Demian___> Seveas, no I can't
[05:16] <kbrooks> why?
[05:16] <Danar> but i checked before that and made sure it wasn't mounted. and even used lsof to make sure nothing was using it
[05:16] <Demian___> Seveas, I wish I could
[05:16] <Zukero> Demian___ , i'm no pro, but seems that apt-upgrade is here to help you update your warty into an hoary
[05:16] <Seveas> Danar, you cannot resize partitions that are mounted, try using parted from a livecd
[05:16] <kbrooks> +
[05:17] <Seveas> Demian___, then you'll have to wipe it clean
[05:17] <Danar> i checked again after the error, and it's still not in use
[05:17] <Danar> Seveas, i am
[05:17] <Seveas> Danar, hmm...
[05:17] <Seveas> check te output of mount (with no arguments)
[05:17] <Danar> i tried again, and same thing
[05:17] <selleckus> do I need to have the cpu frequency meter running in order for ubuntu to scale the frequency?
[05:17] <Danar> and it's still not mounted, and still nothing's using it
[05:17] <Zukero> so anyone here have time to help me set a ftp server ? whatever the daemon, i don't care
[05:18] <Danar> and those partitions no longer show up in /dev
[05:18] <Seveas> Zukero, sudo aptitude install vsftpd
[05:18] <Danar> :(
[05:18] <Zukero> yeah
[05:18] <Seveas> Zukero, and read through /usr/share/doc/vsftpd...
[05:18] <Zukero> i allready have vsftpd
[05:18] <lsuactiafner> selleckus : on amd you need powernowd running
[05:18] <jedipottsy> ne1 know how to get laptop suspend to disk to work?
[05:18] <newbie_linux> hi
[05:18] <lsuactiafner> Zukero : apt-get install proftpd ; edit /etc/proftpd.conf and edit /etc/ftpusers and you are set
[05:18] <Seveas> Danar, if they don't show up in /dev the system doesn't recognize them...
[05:18] <lsuactiafner> all very logical
[05:18] <Danar> Seveas, but gparted still sees them
[05:19] <newbie_linux> when i go to phpmyadmin, i get this message when i try to login: Error
[05:19] <newbie_linux> #2002 - Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[05:19] <selleckus> ahh but if I have a pentium m on laptop it will automatically scle the frequency?
[05:19] <newbie_linux> Any Ideas??
[05:19] <Razor-X> I couldn't sleep well -_-
[05:19] <Danar> i've refreshed a few times in gparted... still shows up there
[05:19] <Razor-X> all night I had 'eterm' in my head
[05:19] <Danar> but the partition isn't resized
[05:19] <lsuactiafner> selleckus : yes it should.. as far as i know
[05:19] <Razor-X> and now i'm here, ready to tackle Eterm again!
[05:19] <lsuactiafner> Razor-X : think xterm
[05:19] <newbie_linux> #2002 - Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[05:19] <newbie_linux> any ideas?
[05:20] <Seveas> newbie_linux, install mysql-server
[05:20] <Danar> trying to resize hdb1, and hdb1 & hdb4 are no longer in /dev
[05:20] <Danar> but gparted sees both
[05:20] <XandriX> when ubuntu is freshly installed whats the default root password ?
[05:20] <newbie_linux> Seveas, i thought it was already installed??
[05:20] <Seveas> XandriX: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:20] <Seveas> there is no root password
[05:20] <XandriX> i cant atm ...
[05:20] <Seveas> XandriX, and please pay attention when installing, the installer has told you that...
[05:21] <newbie_linux> Seveas, i already have the latest version it says
[05:21] <kikkoman> how do i get sound with shockwave player?
[05:21] <Danar> can anyone help?
[05:21] <Seveas> newbie_linux, make sure it's started then..
[05:21] <Danar> i don't want to lose everything...
[05:21] <Rounin> Hm
[05:21] <Danar> there's lots of data at stake :(
[05:21] <newbie_linux> Seveas, can you please tell me how
[05:21] <kestas> kikkoman: you mean the firefox flash plugin?
[05:21] <newbie_linux> i would appreciate it
[05:21] <Seveas> newbie_linux, invoke-rc.d mysql start
[05:22] <newbie_linux> thank u Seveas
[05:22] <kikkoman> yes
[05:22] <kikkoman> it plays the flash but theres no sound at all
[05:22] <Rounin> Hmm Seveas: My Ubuntu CD says "Warty"... Could that have been affected by the initrd bug you mentioned?
[05:22] <Danar> oh, and they showed up in /dev before i tried to resize the partition
[05:22] <newbie_linux> Seveas, I get this message: Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed.  Please take a look at the syslog.
[05:22] <Danar> and i haven't rebooted or anything since
[05:23] <Seveas> kikkoman, sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0  /usr/lib/libesd.so.1
[05:23] <Seveas> newbie_linux, well, look at the syslog then
[05:23] <newbie_linux> how?
[05:23] <Seveas> Rounin, yes
[05:23] <Rounin> Ah!
[05:23] <Rounin> Well, off to linuxiso.org then
[05:23] <sens> Can anyone help me install cadega / cedega / however it's spelt
[05:23] <newbie_linux> Seveas, how do i get to the systemlog
[05:23] <Danar> anyone?
[05:24] <ThunderCracker> hi how long on average does it take for a new kernel to go into the the apt-repository?
[05:24] <Seveas> newbie_linux, less /var/log/mysql.log
[05:24] <kestas> kikkoman: okay
[05:24] <Seveas> ThunderCracker, 2.6.12 will not be available in Hoary
[05:25] <kestas> kikkoman: you need to link /usr/lib/libesdsound.so.[whatever version] 
[05:25] <Seveas> Breezy has had 2.6.12 rc6 for quite a while already
[05:25] <kikkoman> yup works now thanks kestas
[05:25] <Danar> uh oh
[05:25] <kestas> to /usr/lib/libesoun-- oh
[05:25] <Danar> dmesg has a bunch of these:
[05:25] <Danar> hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[05:25] <Danar> hdb: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=70722, high=0, low=70722, sector=70722
[05:25] <Danar> ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[05:25] <Danar> end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 70722
[05:25] <Rounin> But it must be possible to get it from Debian's repositories even so?
[05:25] <Rounin> Or is Debian even stricter
[05:25] <Demian___> If I want to upgrade from warty
[05:25] <Seveas> Danar, do not paste in here....
[05:25] <Demian___> I have to update the source list
[05:25] <sens> How do I update through the repositories? If I go there it has loadsof things but what are they? Do I install them?
[05:25] <Danar> it's only a few lines
[05:25] <Seveas> Demian___: One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[05:25] <Demian___> and then do apt--get dist-upgrade
[05:25] <newbie_linux> Seveas, there is nothing there?
[05:25] <Seveas> Danar, even a few lines are a lot when it's busy...
[05:26] <Seveas> newbie_linux, try tail -n 100 /var/log/messages | less
[05:26] <Demian___> Seveas, you rock
[05:26] <newbie_linux> ok
[05:26] <Seveas> :p
[05:26] <Danar> well, does that help anyone help me?
[05:27] <newbie_linux> Seveas, nothing to do with MySQL
[05:27] <Demian___> auw
[05:27] <Seveas> newbie_linux, strange...
[05:27] <newbie_linux> yes, i know
[05:27] <reka> Demian___: you should have given flowers first
[05:27] <Seveas> does invoke-rc.d mysql restart work?
[05:27] <newbie_linux> would you reccomend reinstalling mysql server, Seveas?
[05:28] <Seveas> newbie_linux, first try invoke-rc.d mysql restart :)
[05:28] <newbie_linux> ok
[05:28] <ThunderCracker> Seveas: why's that? it fixes a bug that means my ibook can't sleep...is there any way i can get it with out a dist-upgradE?
[05:28] <selleckus> is there a driver for the intel integrated graphics?
[05:28] <Seveas> ThunderCracker, you can use apt pinning to get the 2.6.12 kernel
[05:28] <kestas> selleckus: yes
[05:28] <newbie_linux> Seveas, it says this:
[05:28] <Seveas> selleckus, search the wiki
[05:28] <newbie_linux> sudo invoke-rc.d mysql restart
[05:28] <newbie_linux> Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.
[05:28] <newbie_linux> Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed.
[05:28] <newbie_linux>         Please take a look at the syslog.
[05:29] <selleckus> ahh thanks
[05:29] <kestas> newbie_linux: take a look at the syslog then
[05:29] <kestas> newbie_linux: at least go bother #mysql and not us
[05:29] <refuze2looze> selleckus: yes. i810
[05:29] <Seveas> newbie_linux, ok, it's time to sudo aptitude purge mysql-server && sudo aptitude install mysql-server
[05:29] <refuze2looze> selleckus: i use it
[05:29] <Danar> :(
[05:29] <Seveas> kestas, who says it's a mysql problem?
[05:29] <nalioth> ThunderCracker: ibook sleep?
[05:29] <Seveas> might as well be an Ubuntu problem
[05:29] <newbie_linux> Seveas, ok
[05:30] <Seveas> and he looked at syslog already...
[05:30] <kestas> Seveas: sure looks that way to me, does mysql work without setting any configuration options?
[05:30] <dantheman64> heya can the guy helping me before /query me
[05:30] <kestas> Seveas: on freebsd you had to configure it first
[05:30] <dantheman64> I forgot your name, sorry :(
[05:30] <Andlinux21> hi there
[05:30] <kestas> and its probably the healthy thing to configure and read the manual before setting up a database
[05:30] <Seveas> kestas, on ubuntu not, you can login as root without password right after install...
[05:31] <Rounin> Hm, whatn on Earth
[05:31] <Rounin> Ubuntu isn't listed on linuxiso.org... Have they gone daft?
[05:31] <kestas> Seveas: what does that have to do with mysqld not starting though?
[05:31] <Seveas> Rounin, try releases.ubuntu.com
[05:31] <Seveas> or release.ubuntu.com
[05:31] <Rounin> On it :)
[05:31] <Seveas> kestas, maybe something went wrong during install...
[05:32] <Andlinux21> i keep getting the following error
[05:32] <Andlinux21> GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary
[05:32] <Andlinux21> should i take that out of the repository listing?
[05:32] <kestas> not likely.. the error is going to be in syslog isnt it
[05:32] <Seveas> kestas, well, there was no error in syslog...
[05:32] <xxenon> is "noinotify" still needed when starting a 2.6.12 kernel ?
[05:32] <kestas> it did say to look in syslog, no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater
[05:32] <newbie_linux> Seveas, Thank you so much, it works now
[05:32] <kestas> but it said there was an error and to look in syslog
[05:32] <kestas> he didnt even look
[05:32] <newbie_linux> Seveas ROCKS!
[05:32] <Seveas> Andlinux21, try apt-get update
[05:32] <teroedni> hello i have a generic 386 kernel installed
[05:33] <Seveas> Andlinux21, if that doesn't help: wait an hour
[05:33] <Andlinux21> Seveas: ok
[05:33] <scott> On my thinkpad the trackpoint cursor moves slower than the trackpad. anyone know how to speed it up to exactly the same speed as the trackpad?
[05:33] <Seveas> these errors can happen during archive updates
[05:33] <nalioth> Andlinux21: that just means there is no gpg key on your machine for that repo
[05:33] <GNULinuxer> scott, which kernel?
[05:33] <teroedni> in synaptic i see a possible to install linux k7 kernel
[05:34] <teroedni> will that kernel run faster on an Amd machine?
[05:34] <scott> GNULinuxer: linux-686 with hoary
[05:34] <teroedni> and whats is smp?
[05:34] <GNULinuxer> scott, is it 2.6.11 or 2.6.10 ?
[05:34] <kestas> symmetric multii processor
[05:34] <Andlinux21> i will try the apt-get update
[05:34] <Danar> ok, gparted says: "At least one operation was applied to a busy device."
[05:34] <Seveas> teroedni, it might run faster indeed
[05:34] <nalioth> teroedni: dual procoessor (symetric multiprocesser)
[05:34] <Seveas> and -smp is needed when you have a multiprocessor machine
[05:34] <teroedni> ahh
[05:34] <Rounin> Hm... There
[05:34] <Danar> even though lsof & mount say otherwise
[05:34] <refuze2looze> teroedni: on an AMD k7 machine it would give a slight performance increase to use the k7 kernel
[05:34] <Rounin> There's no release that's optimized for i686 though right
[05:34] <Rounin> It's the 386 iso or nothing
[05:35] <Seveas> Rounin, indeed
[05:35] <Danar> anyone know what might cause this?
[05:35] <scott> GNULinuxer: 2.6.10
[05:35] <Seveas> there's no space for multiple kernels on 1 cd
[05:35] <Wimpie> Hi all, being a kde user I would like to remove gnome completely and reinstall gnome libs when needed.
[05:35] <Wimpie> What is the easiest way to do this ?
[05:35] <Seveas> Wimpie, use debfoster to remove it
[05:35] <scott> Wimpie: install kubuntu
[05:35] <teroedni> so the i just remove the generic and install k7 and all should work next time i boot?
[05:35] <refuze2looze> Danar: try unmounting the device first
[05:35] <Danar> refuze2looze, it's not mounted
[05:35] <Rounin> Seveas: Well, at least that proves that 386 is still a decent instruction set :D
[05:36] <Wimpie> I did install kubuntu but it installs on top of unbuntu and leaves gnome apps
[05:36] <refuze2looze> Danar, strange.. i think that happened to me before too actually
[05:36] <Seveas> Rounin, ROFL!!!!
[05:36] <Danar> :(
[05:36] <Seveas> Rounin, 386 and co are terrible instruction sets
[05:36] <Rounin> They've got memory proteciton haven't they :)
[05:36] <Danar> there's ~200Gb at stake here, and no one's helping
[05:36] <teroedni> i can change the kernel in synaptic without reinstall Ubuntu?
[05:36] <refuze2looze> Danar, did you try using gparted with the Live CD?
[05:36] <Rounin> Imagine like... Z80Linux
[05:36] <Seveas> why else would modern processors devote a third of their power into translating 386 opcodes into simpler instructions...
[05:36] <kikkoman> im having trouble with the mplayer plugin..it hangs on buffering part =/
[05:36] <Danar> refuze2looze, i am
[05:36] <GNULinuxer> scott, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3993.html
[05:36] <scott> GNULinuxer: why?
[05:37] <teroedni> please
[05:37] <Rounin> Hmm Seveas... That is pretty terrible
[05:37] <scott> GNULinuxer, scratch that, I'll check out the url, thanks
[05:37] <Rounin> And here Apple's changing to Intel nonetheless
[05:37] <refuze2looze> teroedni: yes you can.. the new kernel will be in use once you restart
[05:37] <Seveas> kikkoman, set ao=esd in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[05:37] <GNULinuxer> scott, the 2.6.11 has diff problem
[05:37] <teroedni> ahh thanks
[05:37] <Seveas> Rounin, intel has other architectures too :)
[05:38] <Danar> i don't have ubuntu installed yet. i'm working on that. i'm on the livecd trying to resize a partition, but i think i'm about to lose everything :(
[05:38] <Danar> (or already have)
[05:38] <teroedni> then i try THanks:)
[05:38] <refuze2looze> Danar, i think maybe it's because the live cd is using your swap.. i'm not really sure
[05:38] <refuze2looze> Danar, just back everything up and do a clean reformat
[05:39] <Danar> it is, but there's a seperate partition for that...
[05:39] <Danar> refuze2looze, how can i back it up when 1- it's 200Gb, and 2- those partitions no longer show up in /dev
[05:39] <Danar> ?
[05:39] <wouterl> in the warty, is gcc installed by default? because the command gcc doesn't work (command not found)
[05:39] <refuze2looze> Danar, it says "busy device" suggesting that the whole drive has to be not in use
[05:40] <Seveas> wouterl, it's not installed by default
[05:40] <Seveas> but available on the CD and from the net
[05:40] <refuze2looze> wouterl: no, install build-essentials with synaptic
[05:40] <Seveas> sudo aptitude install build-essential
[05:40] <wouterl> ok tnx
[05:40] <Danar> how am i supposed to prevent it from using the swap partition?
[05:40] <Seveas> the livecd will not automatically use your swap afaik
[05:41] <Danar> it did
[05:41] <Danar> and is
[05:41] <refuze2looze> yeah it does
[05:41] <Seveas> oh
[05:41] <Seveas> ok
[05:41] <Seveas> Nice feature :)
[05:41] <Danar> :(
[05:41] <refuze2looze> Danar: i think maybe you can try using slack-live
[05:42] <refuze2looze> Danar: i mean slax
[05:42] <Rounin> Seveas: That new 64-bit stuff that they copied from AMD, what kind of instruction set does that use though?
[05:42] <Danar> if i lose 200Gb because of this (again) i'll be pissed >:(
[05:42] <Seveas> booting with the noswap option might help, but i'm not sure...
[05:42] <Danar> if i reboot in this condition, will i lose data?
[05:42] <Seveas> Rounin, intel did not copy their 64bit stuff from amd...
[05:42] <Seveas> neither did amd from intel
[05:42] <Seveas> and they use completely new instruction sets
[05:43] <Seveas> Rounin, but that's way too off-topic here, use google to find the specs :)
[05:43] <Danar> [...] ?
[05:43] <Rounin> Aha
[05:44] <Seveas> Danar, you can use umount to unmount the swap partition. Then it's no longer 'in use'
[05:44] <refuze2looze> Seveas: how will he be able to install gparted? onto RAM?
[05:44] <Andlinux21> all my xterm windows wont open
[05:44] <Seveas> refuze2looze, hmm..
[05:44] <Danar> would that be /tmp?
[05:44] <Andlinux21> they just crash
[05:45] <refuze2looze> i think SLAX can install programs onto RAM, i remember reading something like that
[05:45] <scott> GNULinuxer: I don't see in that article how to speed up the trackpoint
[05:45] <Seveas> refuze2looze, ubuntu does that too
[05:45] <refuze2looze> oh
[05:45] <Danar> umount: /tmp: device is busy
[05:45] <Seveas> but you are limited by your ram size
[05:45] <Seveas> and i don't know how big gparted will be :)
[05:45] <DunkMaster> hey yo yo yoo
[05:46] <refuze2looze> Danar, try rebooting with noswap i guess.. it's alreayd in use so i don't see how you can unmount it now
[05:46] <refuze2looze> Danar, you didn't save any partition changes or anyhting like that did you?
[05:46] <teroedni> works like a charm thanks guys
[05:46] <teroedni> and girls
[05:46] <DunkMaster> what are MSN protocol clients exept GAIM, aMSN and ayttm avaliable for Ubuntu?
[05:47] <Danar> refuze2looze, yes!
[05:47] <Seveas> DunkMaster, bitlbee
[05:47] <kikkoman> is there a way to make the video bigger when watching trailers from "apple.com"?
[05:47] <refuze2looze> DunkMaster, GAIM and aMSN are the best ones
[05:47] <Danar> that's when it gave the error
[05:47] <FirstLite> Danar: try "swapoff -a"
[05:47] <Seveas> DunkMaster, or Kopete
[05:47] <DunkMaster> ty Seveas, Refuze2looze
[05:47] <Danar> FirstLite, hey, thx!
[05:48] <refuze2looze> Danar, but i don't think it changed anything cause it returned an error
[05:48] <scott> anyone using IMMS with BMP?
[05:48] <FirstLite> Danar: no problem
[05:48] <Danar> hrm, i tried again, and it still gave an error, though this time it didn't say the device was busy
[05:48] <DunkMaster> oh
[05:48] <DunkMaster> i forgot
[05:49] <Danar> doesn't say what the error is though :(
[05:49] <Danar> "Error while resizing/moving /dev/hdb1"
[05:49] <narch> can anyone help me with hotplug? i'm trying to add a v4tunnel device to my network interfaces, but hotplug refuses to bring the interface up because it says the kernel has no INET6 support, ipv6 is listed in /etc/modules, and ipv6 is available after the system is started...
[05:49] <rc51woody> having trouble installing java to firefox... followed the how-to but did not succeed...
[05:49] <Danar> "Be aware that the failure to apply this operation could affect other operations on the list."
[05:49] <Danar> (there's nothing else on the list)
[05:50] <nalioth> rc51woody: WHICH howto did you follow?
[05:50] <DunkMaster> Ayttm gave me this: Couldnt conenct to MSN HTTPS server (bad cookies)
[05:50] <Danar> DunkMaster, might try gaim
[05:50] <DunkMaster> im using gaim
[05:50] <DunkMaster> ayttm is just fast
[05:50] <rc51woody> nalioth: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[05:50] <DunkMaster> and its slow machine
[05:50] <Danar> so both give the error?
[05:51] <DunkMaster> no
[05:51] <DunkMaster> only ayttm
[05:51] <Danar> then..
[05:51] <nalioth> rc51woody: now that you've see it, the ubuntuguide lots of times, does not
[05:51] <Danar> at least you can use gaim then
[05:51] <rc51woody> dang't
[05:51] <Danar> DunkMaster, look through the settings...
[05:51] <DunkMaster> bah :)
[05:51] <DunkMaster> i did
[05:51] <Danar> DunkMaster, maybe compare them to gaim's settings
[05:51] <Seveas> rc51woody, ubuntuguide is bad
[05:52] <Seveas> rc51woody: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[05:52] <Danar> look for something different
[05:52] <DunkMaster> settings are exactly the same as in gaim
[05:52] <rc51woody> nalioth: your suggestion for the best source
[05:52] <nalioth> rc51woody: here ya go https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingJavaSupport
[05:52] <Danar> google the error
[05:52] <DunkMaster> okay
[05:52] <DunkMaster> will try
[05:52] <DunkMaster> thanx
[05:52] <kikkoman> when view trailers from "apple.com" site..the plugins great but part of the movie is cut off o_O
[05:53] <narch> can anyone help me with hotplug? i'm trying to add a v4tunnel device to my network interfaces, but hotplug refuses to bring the interface up because it says the kernel has no INET6 support, ipv6 is listed in /etc/modules, and ipv6 is available after the system is started...
[05:54] <Danar> so what am i supposed to do about a generic, unspecified error that might cause me to lose tons of data??
[05:54] <nalioth> narch: give it a few minutes tween the same question. if anyone in here knows about that subject, they will answer
[05:54] <refuze2looze> Danar, that's a tough one =p
[05:54] <XandriX>  aaa ramorama
[05:54] <Danar> anything like gparted which can cause data loss ought to be a little more specific when giving errors!
[05:54] <Seveas> rc51woody, please ask first before sending private messages..
[05:55] <arnonym> i've built a 2.6.12 kernel with dpkg and now i have the problem that all IDE drivers are loaded permanently and i can't mount local filesystems other than root
[05:55] <refuze2looze> Danar, you really should create more than 1 partition where you can backup data and only format the / partition
[05:55] <Danar> refuze2looze, i'm working on that...
[05:56] <refuze2looze> Danar, hopefully it's not too late hehe
[05:56] <rc51woody> seveas: can i private you
[05:56] <Danar> but i have to shrink this partition, so i can expand another one, so i can move more data from this partition onto it
[05:56] <Danar> so i can repeat, and eventually delete this partition
[05:57] <nalioth> rc51woody: if you ask your ? in chan, more people can learn from teh answer(s)
[05:57] <refuze2looze> Danar, i would try restarting using noswap like Seveas suggested
[05:57] <Danar> i'm trying to move around ~200Gb total here....
[05:57] <Danar> refuze2looze, i already turned it off, remember?
[05:57] <Heaviette> "
[05:58] <refuze2looze> Danar, yeah while it's already booted up.. sometimes things that make no sense work
[05:58] <FirstLite> Danar: I missed the beginning of the conversation.  Is /dev/hdb1 an NTFS partition?  Did you defrag it before trying to resize?
[05:58] <Danar> no
[05:58] <XandriX> so will anyone tell me once that my ubuntu is freashly installed how i change the root password and whats the default
[05:58] <Danar> hdb1 is fat32
[05:58] <refuze2looze> Danar, ohh.. you're trying to resize a fat32 partition??
[05:58] <bob2> XandriX: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:58] <Seveas> XandriX, do you ever READ what people say?
[05:58] <refuze2looze> Danar, you have to defrag it
[05:58] <nalioth> XandriX: there is no root account
[05:58] <Danar> i'm trying to move the data to hdb4, which is ext2
[05:58] <bob2> XandriX: that is in the FAQ, of course
[05:58] <Seveas> i've told you that already...
[05:58] <nalioth> XandriX: use "sudo" for all your power needs
[05:59] <BrutusUnix> what is the divx decoder called?
[05:59] <Danar> well that helps
[05:59] <Danar> is there a linux defrag app?
[05:59] <XandriX> my mouseis dead atm i cant rly open a browser
[05:59] <bob2> Danar: no
[05:59] <bob2> XandriX: sure you can
[05:59] <XandriX> nalioth, u need the root password to sudo lol
[05:59] <Danar> then how am i supposed to defrag it?
[05:59] <Seveas> XandriX, READ that wikipage...
[05:59] <scott> I remember seeing a cool gnome launcher program but I can't remember its name.. anyone know of one?
[05:59] <bob2> XandriX: alt-f2 mozilla-firefox <enter> ctrl-l http://... <enter>
[05:59] <Seveas> you don't need a root password...
[05:59] <refuze2looze> XandriX, the root password is your account password
[05:59] <Danar> i don't have windows anymore
[06:00] <bob2> XandriX: good bye!
[06:00] <Seveas> XandriX, yes, it is if you keep asking the same questions...
[06:00] <Danar> bob2, just to be clear, i mean a linux app for defragging fat32...
[06:00] <bob2> XandriX: you're right, it would be way more efficient for us to paste webpages in here than for you to read it yourself
[06:00] <Seveas> which can all be answered by the same wikipage...
[06:00] <bob2> Danar: there isn't one that I know of
[06:00] <Danar> :(
[06:00] <XandriX> omfg
[06:00] <XandriX> i get better suport in the redhat channel eeep
[06:00] <bob2> XandriX: you were given the correct answer 5 times, I'm sorry if that isn't good enough for you
[06:01] <nalioth> XandriX: open a terminal and type "man sudo"
[06:01] <BrutusUnix> Think I'm going back to slackware also
[06:01] <XandriX> trfm is nto a correct awnser
[06:01] <bob2> XandriX: in addition to this being in the FAQ, on the front page of the wiki, and being explained in the installer
[06:01] <Seveas> XandriX, if you don't care to be a bit cooperative, why do you expect help..?
[06:01] <refuze2looze> XandriX, before you come asking questions here you should always check the ubuntu wiki, the ubuntu forums, google. then you can come ask in here
[06:01] <bob2> XandriX: you didn't get a "rtfm", stop whinging
[06:01] <bob2> XandriX: you got told the exact URL for the answer you asked for
[06:01] <Zunino> Could anyone help me get my language and keyboard layout settings back on the KDE's Control Center (already tried at #kubuntu, but none could help)
[06:02] <Zunino> At the moment the list of available languages is empty!
[06:02] <bob2> Zunino: the options don't exist in kcontrol anymore at all?
[06:02] <avinoam> I am using ubuntu on a dell inspiron laptop, and i think that power management is causing the computer to drop the cable connection after a while. how do i fix this?
[06:02] <bob2> Zunino: did they used to be there?
[06:02] <Zunino> No, they are gone.
[06:02] <Zunino> Yes
[06:02] <Zunino> And
[06:02] <Seveas> avinoam, have you tried booting with acpi=off?
[06:02] <bob2> Zunino: what have you changed since they were there?
[06:02] <Danar> you sure i have to defrag fat32 before resizing it?
[06:02] <DunkMaster> Danar: google didnt help
[06:02] <DunkMaster> :(
[06:02] <Danar> :/
[06:02] <Zunino> The only thing I have done is trying to install the newest ATI driver.
[06:02] <avinoam> seveas what is acpi? and how do i set that?
[06:02] <bob2> avinoam: I'd be fairly surprised if power management caused that
[06:03] <Zunino> After that, I ran fglrxconfig
[06:03] <Danar> DunkMaster, does it save your account info?
[06:03] <DunkMaster> yes
[06:03] <Danar> DunkMaster, you could try deleting & recreating it...
[06:03] <Zunino> And since then I havent been able to type latin characters with my US-layout keb
[06:03] <DunkMaster> okay
[06:03] <avinoam> bob2 it can't cause ethernet card to shut off on a laptop?
[06:03] <DunkMaster> ayttm worked on DamnSmallLinux last time i used it
[06:03] <refuze2looze> Danar, yeah it needs to be defragged
[06:03] <Seveas> avinoam, when booting, hit escape to cancel the timeout, go to the line of the kernel you want to boot, hit e to edit the line and add acpi=off to that line
[06:03] <jedipottsy> ffs this takes the pi$$
[06:03] <bob2> avinoam: not that I know of
[06:03] <jedipottsy> is there no auto detect audio hardware for Ubuntu?
[06:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how to install a tar.gz file?
[06:04] <bob2> jedipottsy: of course there is
[06:04] <avinoam> seveas can't i add that to my startup script?
[06:04] <skaller> anyone here know anything about libgal?
[06:04] <bob2> jedipottsy: perhaps your card is special and isn't detected
[06:04] <Zunino> I will now try running fglrxconfig again, but I am not sure that could affect the options available from the drop down list on the control center.
[06:04] <Seveas> avinoam, of course you can
[06:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> or should i get wine from synaptic?
[06:04] <Danar> DunkMaster, OTOH, another possibility is MS changed the protocol again, and gaim is updated, but it's not...
[06:04] <avinoam> seveas how? and what is acpi before i kill it?
[06:04] <Seveas> add it to the kernel lines in menu.lst :)
[06:04] <jedipottsy> its an ATI IPX ac97
[06:04] <bob2> skaller: what do you want to know about it?
[06:04] <FirstLite> Danar: yeah, I'm pretty sure you do.  Although fat32 is (iirc) supported under Linux too, so maybe you don't need to touch it at all?
[06:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and wine tools as well
[06:04] <skaller> who the maintainer is?
[06:04] <reka> Zunino: sounds like fglrxconfig stuffed up your xorg.conf file
[06:04] <Seveas> avinoam, acpi is power management stuff
[06:04] <Danar> FirstLite, yeah, it's supported, but i want to resize it
[06:04] <bob2> skaller: in ubuntu?
[06:04] <avinoam> i see
[06:04] <refuze2looze> Danar, you can try this http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/\
[06:05] <jedipottsy> ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01) - straight from lspci
[06:05] <skaller> yeah, i have libgal2.4 but the -dev package for it says 2.6
[06:05] <Zunino> Yeah, thats what I think too
[06:05] <avinoam> where is my boot script?
[06:05] <Seveas> avinoam, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:05] <jedipottsy> but it dont work
[06:05] <DunkMaster> Danar: possible
[06:05] <Zunino> Let me try going through it again.
[06:05] <avinoam> seveas i am on lilo i think
[06:05] <bob2> skaller: how is that a problem?
[06:05] <refuze2looze> gotta run
[06:05] <Filo_> are there italian people ?
[06:05] <reka> Zunino: dd you make a backup?
[06:05] <Seveas> avinoam, ah, i don't know about lilo, sorry
[06:05] <bob2> Filo_: #ubuntu-it
[06:05] <Seveas> Filo_, #ubuntu-it
[06:06] <skaller> autoconf scripts checking with pkg-config don't find the installed library
[06:06] <avinoam> isn't the default lilo?
[06:06] <Zunino> Good question :)
[06:06] <Danar> refuze2looze, :/ is there anything that doesn't involve rebooting (or downloading more livecd isos)?
[06:06] <Seveas> avinoam, no
[06:06] <bob2> skaller: you're using breezy?
[06:06] <skaller> yeah
[06:06] <skaller> trying to
[06:06] <Zunino> I will be back
[06:06] <reka> Zunino: check the directory.  it may have made one automatically
[06:06] <Zunino> Thanks for the help so far
[06:06] <Danar> DunkMaster, make sure you're using the latest version
[06:06] <Zunino> Right. Thanks.
[06:06] <jedipottsy> lol samba works fine tho :D
[06:06] <bob2> Filo_: please don't /msg people
[06:06] <avinoam> seveas does GDE have a GUI power management setting area?
[06:06] <DunkMaster> i am using the latest
[06:06] <Danar> DunkMaster, which might not be in the repository...
[06:07] <Danar> so check their page
[06:07] <DunkMaster> okay, i will
[06:07] <skaller> some of breezy works fine .. but not evolution so I'm trying to build from source
[06:07] <skaller> cant do much without email :)
[06:07] <bob2> I assume you filed a bug?
[06:08] <skaller> how?
[06:08] <avinoam> seveas where shall i put the line?
[06:08] <Seveas> avinoam, add it to the line that begins with the word kernel
[06:08] <bob2> skaller: http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/
[06:09] <skaller> bit tricky doing anything until enough of the base system works .. i could use mozilla mail client .. but don't ask my to revert to mailx :)
[06:09] <Danar> how come ext3 doesn't need defragging?
[06:09] <bob2> Danar: because it places files carefully on disk to begin with
[06:10] <nalioth> Danar: ext2, -3 and reiserfs 'defrag' on the fly
[06:10] <Danar> nalioth, uh, there's an ext2 defrag utility...
[06:10] <DunkMaster> hmmm
[06:10] <bob2> I'm 99% certain that's not true.
[06:10] <DunkMaster> looks like i do have latest version
[06:10] <narch> danar, it hasn't been updated in years tho, if its the util i'm thinking of
[06:10] <avinoam> seveas but i think i need acpi for some things... on my laptop.... can't i play with acpi?
[06:10] <nalioth> Danar: where did you get it? and what is it written for?
[06:11] <narch> danar, it used to be necessary, i remember having ext2 filesystems that were 20+% fragmented, but that was a long time ago
[06:11] <Danar> nalioth, i just searched 'defrag' in synaptic, and there it was
[06:11] <nalioth> and some fine soul has written a 'defrag' for linux to use on fragmented torrent files
[06:11] <Seveas> avinoam, well, you said you sispected acpi caused the problem, so the first step is running without acpi to see if it happens without acpi too
[06:11] <_kevin> Why can't i view videos online.. Being streamed... Like i goto MTV and try to view a music video and the thingy would pop up but i see no video
[06:11] <virtuald> when using bittorrent and not preallocating space for the files, doesn't the files get very fragmented? is there som way to check?
[06:11] <avinoam> seveas, and if that is the problem, what do i do?
[06:12] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > hi
[06:12] <_kevin> Firefox doesn't play it
[06:12] <Seveas> avinoam, then you can google for a more specific solution ;)
[06:12] <LinuxJones> Tallia1[UbuntU] , welcome
[06:12] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > today i have a VERY BIG problem
[06:12] <avinoam> seveas ok
[06:12] <narch> virtual, the easy way to defrag them, is to just cp them and delete the original
[06:12] <avinoam> i shall try
[06:12] <nalioth> virtuald: sourceforge has those torrent defrag tools, if you care to go there and check
[06:12] <virtuald> ok
[06:12] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > kernel panic
[06:12] <virtuald> thanks
[06:12] <DunkMaster> what does gnome meeting do?
[06:12] <bob2> Tallia1[UbuntU] : please don't tell us you compiled your own kernel
[06:12] <bob2> DunkMaster: video conferencing
[06:12] <LinuxJones> Tallia1[UbuntU] , you compile your own kernel ?
[06:12] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > no
[06:13] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i didn't
[06:13] <DunkMaster> ok Bob2
[06:13] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > it's the original kernel..
[06:13] <Danar> narch, doesn't work when you don't have enough room
[06:13] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > http://spaces.msn.com/members/tallia1/PersonalSpace.aspx?_c01_photoalbum=showdefault&_c=photoalbum
[06:13] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > at this page you can see my problem.. (third photo)
[06:13] <_kevin> I can hear sounds live streams but no video
[06:13] <_kevin> what gives
[06:13] <_kevin> it's a real media stream
[06:14] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > what can i do in order to fix it?
[06:14] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i'm getting crazy...
[06:14] <LinuxJones> _kevin, what format is the server streaming ?
[06:14] <_kevin> rm
[06:14] <_kevin> i think
[06:14] <narch> anyway, iirc, e2info will display the fragmentation of a filesystem
[06:14] <Seveas> Tallia1[UbuntU] , have you been editing /boot/grub/menu.list manually?
[06:14] <LinuxJones> _kevin, you will need realplayer to view that
[06:14] <Danar> _kevin, try http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[06:15] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > nope.. i installed webmin grub module..
[06:15] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > this is the only thing that i did lately
[06:15] <_kevin> I have the codec alreadt
[06:15] <bob2> right, so that would be it
[06:15] <_kevin> already*
[06:15] <_kevin> and the real player is broken
[06:15] <Seveas> Tallia1[UbuntU] , have you been editing the grub config with it?
[06:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone use dosbox?
[06:15] <_kevin> from the thing on the guide
[06:15] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i only changed a couple of name...
[06:15] <Danar> well, i can't defrag hdb1 (fat32) or hdb4 (ext2) anyway, cause they no longer show in /dev :(
[06:15] <Seveas> _kevin, the ubuntuguide.org os broken :)
[06:15] <_kevin> i tried before it downloads and installs but it never opens up
[06:16] <Seveas> Tallia1[UbuntU] , i bet you messed up there...
[06:16] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > but i went on the grub channel and they told me that all was ok in the config file
[06:16] <sig> anyone know where to get a version of "dvdstyler" for ubuntu ?
[06:16] <Seveas> Tallia1[UbuntU] , try booting with a livecd and putting the grub config on a pastebin
[06:16] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > it seems that there's a file system error..
[06:16] <_kevin> Seveas I don't understand what you just said
[06:16] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > but by explore2fs in windows i can acecss the root partiiton correctly
[06:16] <narch> sig, its on either marillat or rareware's respository
[06:16] <Seveas> _kevin: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[06:17] <Seveas> go to that site..
[06:17] <avinoam> seveas i have restarted, but now i can't see how much battery is left, which is unfortunate
[06:17] <unreal> would anyone here have a clue why my wireless keyboard works, and the wireless mouse doesn't? (they both use the same USB receiver, and I know the mouse works after doing cat /dev/input/mouse1 (/dev/psaux appears to be identical to that too)
[06:17] <DunkMaster> thank you for your help
[06:17] <DunkMaster> bye
[06:17] <DunkMaster> !
[06:17] <skaller> oh poop, need kerberos 4 and have 5 ;(
[06:17] <ubotu> DunkMaster: Are you smoking crack?
[06:17] <avinoam> and by the way, i  found a bug in xine
[06:17] <DunkMaster> me?
[06:17] <DunkMaster> no
[06:17] <DunkMaster> why should i?
[06:17] <sig> narch: marillat's?
[06:17] <reka> lol
[06:17] <Seveas> Tallia1[UbuntU] , good enough, paste your menu.list on a pastebin please :)
[06:17] <narch> sig, yeah
[06:17] <sig> what is the full path so I can add it to my repository
[06:17] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > btw i'll re-install grub.. but i think that the problem is the file system..
[06:17] <narch> sig,  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
[06:17] <DunkMaster> okay, byes
[06:17] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > is there a way to fix the file system?
[06:18] <avinoam> How do i write a script to run my cable modem logon script?
[06:18] <narch> sig, or it might be on : deb http://www.rarewares.org/debian/packages/unstable ./
[06:18] <Seveas> narch, marillat should not be used on hoary...
[06:18] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > Seveas: ok
[06:18] <narch> sig, be careful what you grab from those repositories tho
[06:18] <Andlinux21> ubotu: lol
[06:18] <ubotu> Andlinux21: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[06:18] <xvlun> Tallia1[UbuntU] , fsck.ext3 if you use it
[06:18] <mne> hi there ! I'm using a debian base install, but the Xorg with all its dependencies is from ubuntu hoary which is the reason I came here. My problem is that the Xorg (the process Xorg) uses at least 245MB RAM, if Xorg runs for some time it even uses more than 350MB RAM. I have no explanation for the high memory usage since the same Xorg packages on my other boxes use about 40MB RAM. Any hints ? Could it be the graphic driver module (I
[06:18] <mne> use nvidia) ?
[06:18] <narch> sig, they're compiled against debian, and sometimes rely on Xfree packages, and stuff, you can get into a mess if you're not careful
[06:18] <Heimdall> Seveas : I have installed tetex, but this is not the same thing as latex ? :/
[06:18] <Seveas> Heimdall, it is..
[06:18] <Danar> how can i defrag hdb1 (fat32) or hdb4 (ext2) when they no longer show in /dev ?
[06:18] <narch> sig, i don't remember any dependancy issues with dvdstyler tho
[06:18] <Andlinux21> ubotu: i was just laffin at you asking him if he smoked crack
[06:18] <ubotu> Andlinux21: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[06:18] <xvlun> tetex is a latex distribution
[06:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone use dosbox?
[06:19] <Heimdall> Seveas : oh sorry... I typed tex, and not latex
[06:19] <Seveas> mne, Xorg on Debian is not really supported...
[06:19] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[06:19] <LinuxJones> mne, is your hard drive grinding away because of it ?
[06:19] <reka> Andlinux21: ubotu is a bot :-)
[06:19] <Danar> ChurcH_of_FoamY, i have
[06:19] <Heimdall> okay... thanks :)
[06:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[06:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> sorry
[06:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Danar have you tryed it with doom?
[06:19] <Andlinux21> reka: thanks but it was funny
[06:19] <mne> LinuxJones, yeah, sometimes it starts to swap since all my RAM (1GB) if full
[06:19] <gteppel> How would I restrict root from logging into my box, meaning that the user has to first log in with a regular account and then su to root. I've already restricted this for ssh, but I'm not sure how do accomplish this for the actually physical box
[06:20] <Danar> ChurcH_of_FoamY, no... i ran the linux version of doom
[06:20] <Heimdall> Seveas :it is quite long to download all the apckages :/
[06:20] <Danar> er, doom 3 actually
[06:20] <Seveas> gteppel, by not messing with the default config :)
[06:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> where can i get it?
[06:20] <mne> Seveas, As I already said it's NOT debian specific since all X related packages and dependencies are from hoary.
[06:20] <unreal> hmm
[06:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh i wanted to run doom 3.1
[06:20] <LinuxJones> mne, that's horrid, have you considered installing Ubuntu or reverting to xfree ?
[06:20] <Seveas> gteppel, cause by default it's disabled...
[06:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> for dos
[06:20] <Demian___> why can't I apt-get smeg?
[06:20] <Danar> ChurcH_of_FoamY, which one?
[06:20] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > Seveas: http://pastebin.com/301862
[06:20] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > here it is
[06:20] <Danar> k
[06:21] <gteppel> k
[06:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Danar which doom?
[06:21] <unreal> I might as well burn the livecd disc and check if it detects my mouse there, and hopefully i'll be able to copy the config and get it working here
[06:21] <Danar> maybe this: http://www.gamers.org/dhs/helpdocs/Linux-DOOM-FAQ.html#where
[06:21] <LinuxJones> unreal, what kind of mouse do you have ?
[06:21] <Seveas> Tallia1[UbuntU] , omg, you messed it up quite a bit
[06:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Danar Thanx ^_^
[06:21] <unreal> I have a wireless keyboard and mouse, the keyboard works fine straight away, the mouse doesn't
[06:22] <unreal> but I know the mouse works after doing cat /dev/input/mouse1
[06:22] <mne> LinuxJones, I used the same ubuntu package on my other debian machine where it just works fine. I guess it has something to do with the graphic driver module. I'm considering "upgrading" to ubuntu, unfortuately I currently have no time for it. (maybe in July)
[06:22] <Seveas> Tallia1[UbuntU] , the initrd lines should be placed right after the kernel lines
[06:22] <Danar> ChurcH_of_FoamY, np. just went to google.com/linux and searched 'doom'
[06:22] <Seveas> Tallia1[UbuntU] , and definitely before boot
[06:22] <avinoam> Can someone tell me how to write a script which runs the program "cd Desktop/netvision" and then "sudo ./cablestart.v031 kramer83 eth0"?
[06:22] <Seveas> Tallia1[UbuntU] , that's what's causing this....
[06:22] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i tried..
[06:22] <mne> LinuxJones, is there a way to debug the Xorg server ?
[06:22] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > nothing changes..
[06:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> duh keep forgetting the benifets of google >.<
[06:22] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > i tried just befor i uninstalled grub.. :(
[06:22] <avinoam> while of course prompting me for SU password?
[06:22] <LinuxJones> mne, it must be related in some way if that's the only difference, can you try using the vesa module to see if there is a change ?
[06:23] <scott> a lot of times when I change songs or skip forward (also in movies) in totem and other players I hear a loud screach. anyone know how to get rid of that?
[06:23] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > do you know if in the net there's a grub CD ISO?
[06:23] <Danar> LinuxJones, you have a mic?
[06:23] <sig> narch: when I added a marrilat repo I got failed to fetch blah MD5Sum mismatch ?
[06:23] <mne> LinuxJones, thats a good tip, I'll try it out. the funny thing is taht other people use the same nvidia kernel module and Xorg module and they don't have these problems ..
[06:24] <Danar> oops
[06:24] <LinuxJones> Danar, nope
[06:24] <Tallia1[UbuntU] > Seveas: so i can reinstall grub :)
[06:24] <Danar> not you
[06:24] <Danar> meant scoot
[06:24] <Danar> *scott
[06:24] <Danar> lol
[06:24] <narch> sig, yeah, that repository has no md5sums or something :(
[06:24] <nalioth> sig: don't use marillat
[06:24] <LinuxJones> mne, I have a GF5200 and xorg is using about 40 MB of memory
[06:24] <mne> LinuxJones, I'm trying the vesa module now, I'll tell you if it changes my situation when I'm done. thanks for helping
[06:24] <sig> nalioth: but I want a package that isn't provided by ubuntu
[06:24] <LinuxJones> mne, GL :)
[06:25] <avinoam> not everybody at once now!!
[06:25] <narch> nalioth: you could try backports, but i'm not sure if dvdstyler is in there or not
[06:25] <LinuxJones> Danar, that wasn't even close :)
[06:25] <scott> Danar: not plugged in
[06:25] <nalioth> narch: sig marillat and backports are bad. and left in your sources.list can break your system
[06:25] <mne> LinuxJones, thats the same on my other boxes, Xorg uses 40MB Ram there as well. just this box I'm currently sitting at has this problem. So till later ;)
[06:25] <Danar> LinuxJones, you typed just before he did
[06:25] <scott> Danar: you think if I mute the mic that will get rid of it?
[06:25] <narch> nalioth: i agree, but if someone wants dvdstyler, what choice do they have?
[06:25] <LinuxJones> Danar, :)
[06:26] <scott> Danar, or were you thinking feedback? it's not that loud of the screach
[06:26] <Danar> scott, not if it's not plugged in. screeches are normally caused by feedback from the mic
[06:26] <Danar> ah
[06:26] <scott> this is a screach from the software
[06:26] <nalioth> narch: dvdwhat?
[06:26] <scott> I think anyway
[06:26] <Danar> hrm
[06:26] <narch> nalioth, sure, you could download just the .deb files you need, but then it becomes a headache if there are dependancies, and iirc, dvdstyler has quite a few
[06:26] <Danar> never had a screech from software before
[06:27] <narch> nalioth, its a dvd authoring package, takes xml files and vob files and produces the VIDEO_TS directory contents for a DVD
[06:27] <nalioth> narch: i have seen a lot of peeps in here using bp and marillat with unupgradable systems
[06:27] <nalioth> narch: better to figure another way
[06:28] <FirstLite> Danar: Umm ... I'm not really sure what you might do at this point.  I'm no udev expert.  But you might want to back up your partition table ASAP.  You can use cfdisk, press "p" to print the table, and copy down the stuff on the screen.  This might help you restore if your partition table gets corrupted.  If it's _already_ corrupted, then I have heard of "partition guessing" software called "gpart" ...
[06:28] <Danar> FirstLite, thx... :(
[06:28] <Recyclable> lo
[06:29] <Recyclable> i am having a problem with installing nexuiz
[06:29] <bhna> me too
[06:30] <narch> i don't suppose anyone here now knows their way around hotplug ?
[06:30] <Danar> FirstLite, um... cfdisk doesn't show hdb at all!
[06:30] <scott> is there a way to have gnome place windows in a better position? like use real estate as efficiently as possible?
[06:30] <Danar> i am so screwed
[06:31] <Recyclable> anyone else having problems with nexuiz?
[06:31] <wbastien> bhna said yes
[06:31] <unreal> LinuxJones: did you see what I said or? :)
[06:32] <Recyclable> anyone know how i could fix my problem installing nexuiz? :P
[06:32] <Danar> uh oh
[06:33] <Danar> i had to kill gparted cause it hung, and now it doesn't show hdb at all
[06:33] <syntheticocean> Can someone help me get my sound working please?
[06:33] <FirstLite> Danar: just to be sure: Did you run "cfdisk /dev/hdb"?
[06:33] <ja> hi,i have no sound,everything was ok,i have sonud in all programs ,i restart computer and now i don't have sound in all programs,what should i do ? i'm newbie:)
[06:33] <Danar> FirstLite, just cfdisk
[06:33] <Danar> but gparted doesn't see it either now
[06:33] <_kevin> what si real player for PPC
[06:33] <Danar> wait
[06:33] <Danar> my bad
[06:33] <Danar> gparted sees it
[06:33] <_kevin> what is PPC
[06:33] <Danar> phew!
[06:33] <LinuxJones> unreal, sorry dude I don't have a wireless mouse have you tried google ?
[06:34] <Danar> forgot about the drop down list
[06:34] <nalioth> _kevin: you run a PPC?
[06:34] <_kevin> i don't know what is it
[06:34] <nalioth> _kevin: macintosh hardware
[06:34] <unreal> LinuxJones: heh, nvm then, google hasn't been much help
[06:34] <_kevin> ohh
[06:34] <_kevin> no
[06:34] <nalioth> _kevin: Power PC processors
[06:34] <LinuxJones> unreal, have you tried re-configuring xorg, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:34] <mne> LinuxJones, I just tried out vesa, it's still the same. pretty strange
[06:34] <_kevin> i'm on amd
[06:34] <unreal> yup.
[06:34] <_kevin> so no ppc
[06:34] <LinuxJones> mne, argh that sucks :(
[06:34] <arnonym> i've built a 2.6.12 kernel with make-kpkg and now i have the problem that all IDE drivers are loaded permanently and i can't mount local filesystems other than root
[06:35] <LinuxJones> mne, did you re-boot ?
[06:35] <nalioth> _kevin: you are just as screwed
[06:35] <lcore> Howto bind actions to mouse clicks? Is there a way to use mouse gestures in gnome (2.10.0)?
[06:35] <mne> LinuxJones, yes, I did that too
[06:35] <Danar> FirstLite, k, shows in cfdisk too with 'cfdisk /dev/hdb'
[06:35] <enrike> who am i ?
[06:35] <_kevin> why you say that Nalioth?
[06:35] <nalioth> _kevin: amd64 and ppc arches are missing lots of nice binarys (like win32 codecs, realplayer, etc)
[06:35] <Zunino> To whomever was helping me previously: the "keyboard layout list has become empty" issue has been solved.
[06:35] <Danar> thought i lost everything for a second there...
[06:35] <Heimdall> can I see the .bashrc-like files when I do a 'ls' ?
[06:35] <_kevin> who sid I'm on amd 64
[06:35] <rc51woody> ok i went throught the entire directions on adding java to firefox
[06:35] <rc51woody> and it still doesnt work
[06:35] <FirstLite> Danar: ok, cool, try to copy the partition table.
[06:35] <_kevin> I'm on Amd Athlon THunderbird
[06:36] <nalioth> kevin WHAT exactly are you using?
[06:36] <FirstLite> Danar: And quit WITHOUT saving
[06:36] <Zunino> It turns out I did have a backup and it seems things got fixed after I put back the files in /etc/X11 and restarted KDM.
[06:36] <Zunino> Thanks.
[06:36] <nalioth> _kevin: and what arch are you using?
[06:36] <ja> anyone can help me ? please
[06:36] <_kevin> x86 I'm guessing
[06:36] <Zunino> Now... The only nagging thing is the cedilla () issue.
[06:36] <Danar> FirstLite, oy, copy to where?
[06:36] <Danar> no point saving to the hard drive. no way i'm writing all that out.
[06:36] <syntheticocean> Can someone help me get my sound working please? I have an Audigy 2 ZS, and no sound.
[06:37] <CarlK> anyone have a wi-fi detection app recomendation?
[06:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wow computer froze hard core >.<
[06:37] <Danar> wait, i know
[06:37] <ivanox> CarlK, Kismet
[06:37] <iKst> hello...does anyone have expirience with ubuntu on slow machines ? i want to run it on P233 with 64mb of ram, will i be able to run gnome, openoffice and firefox ?
[06:37] <mne> LinuxJones, it there another way to have a look at which processes use how much memory ? I use top
[06:37] <CarlK> ivanox - thanks
[06:37] <FirstLite> Danar: umm ... I though it would be only a couple lines.  Yeah, DON'T save to the hdd.
[06:37] <nalioth> _kevin: then you shouldnt have any trouble follwoing the ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ instructions for real, win32 codecs, etc
[06:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> mne yes it will ^_^
[06:37] <_kevin> ok
[06:37] <CarlK> iKst - I run it on exactly that - iw "will" run, but not fast
[06:38] <_kevin> i was just wondering what PPC was
[06:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> just installed ubuntu on a machene with simalr specs yesterday
[06:38] <CarlK> iKst - wait... I have 96meg
[06:38] <mne> ChurcH_of_FoamY, huh ?
[06:38] <rc51woody> Seveas: I need help on the java
[06:38] <CarlK> iKst - 64 is going to hurt
[06:38] <zyth> iKst, I recommend XFce, Firefox, and Abiword, etc...
[06:38] <LinuxJones> mne, ps -aux but I think top uses that neways
[06:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> mne sorry wrong person
[06:38] <mne> ChurcH_of_FoamY, np
[06:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> got the name wrong lol
[06:38] <syntheticocean> Can anyone here help me figure out why my sound isn't working please?
[06:38] <zyth> iKst, you might look into a distro for low end systems like vectorlinux.  It's designed for older boxes.
[06:39] <Danar> FirstLite, well, there's 4 partitions, and a line looks like this:
[06:39] <Danar> 4  0x00  254   63 1023 0x83  254   63 1023   296511705   152231940
[06:39] <Andlinux21> anyone using rxvt? if so how do you get transparent windows
[06:39] <iKst> tnx
[06:39] <mne> LinuxJones, unfortunaely ps -aux shown me the percentage of memory a process uses only. not the actual size in mb
[06:40] <zyth> mne: try 'top'
[06:40] <CarlK> iKst - you can use Ubuntu, just don't load up everything.  do a "server" install, then add X, a "light" WM, firefox, and OO
[06:40] <nalioth> rc51woody: what is the problem?
[06:40] <capi> in RFC 1178 it says to avoid using single tokens for your computer network. Does this mean name the computers something.blah ? I'm a little confused, as that sounds like it may cause more problems.
[06:40] <mne> LinuxJones, so anyway, thanks for helping, I have to get back to work. At least I know now that the problem isn't the nvidia driver module.
[06:40] <rc51woody> went through the steps
[06:40] <rc51woody> and still nothing
[06:40] <FirstLite> Danar: OK, that looks right.  Maybe you can ssh somewhere else and cut 'n paste into a file on that machine?
[06:40] <Zunino> Sorry for the naive question, but how do you send a "directed" message to someone here on the chat window. I mean, some people reply to questions in a way that it is easy for me to spot the response, as it comes out red and begins with my name. Is there any special syntax for it?
[06:40] <zyth> syntheticocean, have you made sure that your volume isn't just muted?
[06:41] <mne> zyth, hehe, i actually wanted to know if there's a 'top' alternative ;) but thanks
[06:41] <zyth> mne: oh ok :)
[06:41] <Danar> FirstLite, got it saved somewhere...
[06:41] <capi> Zunino, its just your IRC program tracking all the messages with your name, you can set it up to highlight certain keywords.
[06:41] <CarlK> Zunino - i think you just ... yeah, that
[06:41] <Danar> online
[06:42] <zyth> Zunino, that's xchat being nice.  Type the first few characters of their nick (like, say Zun and then hit tab, it'll autocomplete, etc)
[06:42] <Zunino> Cool guys
[06:42] <CarlK> Zunino - type the first few chars of a nick (like Zun) and hit Tab
[06:42] <Zunino> Thanks. It is indeed a nice feature.
[06:42] <nalioth> rc51woody: the instructions on the java wiki page work well
[06:42] <Zunino> CarlK, very cool!
[06:42] <Zunino> Thanks!
[06:42] <rc51woody> can you give me the link again
[06:42] <flodine> how do i uninstall kubuntu
[06:42] <rc51woody> i will go through them again
[06:42] <Danar> FirstLite, so... what now?
[06:43] <nalioth> rc51woody: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingJavaSupport
[06:43] <syntheticocean> zyth, Yes, I made sure the sound isn't muted.
[06:43] <flodine> little help
[06:43] <nalioth> rc51woody: what kind of cpu do you have?
[06:43] <flodine> uninstalling kubuntu
[06:43] <rc51woody> pentium
[06:43] <rc51woody> 1.6 ghz
[06:43] <rc51woody> 1.5
[06:43] <rc51woody> i mean
[06:43] <Danar> oh, anyone know why ubuntu doesn't detect the logitech mx500 properly?
[06:43] <Danar> it thinks it only has 5 buttons
[06:43] <zyth> syntheticocean, is it detected if you run lspci?
[06:44] <rc51woody> on that java support page
[06:44] <Danar> (mouse)
[06:44] <rc51woody> i had to change each of the file names
[06:44] <rc51woody> cuz there is a new version
[06:44] <rc51woody> 03
[06:44] <syntheticocean> zyth, 0000:02:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
[06:44] <nalioth> rc51woody: thats fine, as long as the general inst are followed, the version matters not
[06:44] <rc51woody> i went through the entire process
[06:45] <rc51woody> ill do it again
[06:45] <zyth> syntheticocean, and do you also have onboard sound by chance?
[06:45] <syntheticocean> yes
[06:45] <zyth> Danar, http://www.glaurung.demon.co.uk/info/linux.mx500.howto.html
[06:45] <Zunino> Could anyone point me to resources that would help programmers new to hacking Linux on how the cycle works? More specifically, I intend to modify the algorithm used by the window manager to choose windows' placement. Personally, I dislike the one used by default, in spite of it being called "smart placement".
[06:45] <zyth> google's first result.
[06:45] <zyth> syntheticocean, disable the onboard sound in your bios
[06:45] <syntheticocean> In Bios?
[06:46] <zyth> yep
[06:46] <Zunino> I wanted to know how, after modifying the source I could get that change to take effect on my system.
[06:46] <sktrdie> do u guys know where the ubuntu ass picture is?
[06:46] <sktrdie> i cant find it anymore
[06:46] <syntheticocean> Give me a sec, I'll do that zyth
[06:46] <mdipi> Hey all, does anyone have any experience with PPC ubuntu?
[06:46] <zyth> syntheticocean, k
[06:46] <Danar> zyth, yeah, i know about that, but it's been around for a while now, and ought to be done automatically by now
[06:46] <HappyFool> Zunino: you'd probably have to hack either gnome or metacity source (not sure which)
[06:47] <Zunino> That would be Metacity, for Gnome.
[06:47] <zyth> Danar, ahh.  Probably depends if anyone who writes the software has one ;)
[06:47] <Danar> ubuntu detects my hardware better than debian though
[06:47] <sktrdie> mdipi: i have a ppc computer, but not with ubuntu.. what do u need?
[06:47] <Andlinux21> Danar I agree
[06:47] <Danar> zyth, it's the best mouse, they should :p
[06:47] <HappyFool> Zunino: i'm not sure what the 'correct' ubuntu/debian procedure is; you could start by trying to download the sources for metacity using apt-get source
[06:47] <Zunino> HappyFool, the funny thing is that I am now running on KDE and the positioning scheme seems to be the same as Metacity.
[06:47] <rc51woody> in those directions
[06:47] <zyth> sktrdie, the install cd I think.
[06:47] <rc51woody> for installing java support
[06:47] <nalioth> mdipi: i have a couple PPC ubuntu boxen
[06:47] <Zunino> HappyFool, Does KDE use metacity as well?
[06:48] <zyth> oh
[06:48] <rc51woody> there might be an error
[06:48] <zyth> I misread ;)
[06:48] <Seveas> Zunino, no
[06:48] <HappyFool> Zunino: ah, well, in that case you'll want to hack kde source. i don't use kubuntu, don't know what window manager
[06:48] <rc51woody> sudo mv jre1.5.0_02/ /usr/java/
[06:48] <HappyFool> Zunino: sorry, don't know
[06:48] <mdipi> Sktrdie: well I'd like to install Ubuntu on my ext. FW, can i do this without nuking the whole thing?
[06:48] <Danar> wb FirstLite
[06:48] <sktrdie> mdipi... well there should be the option in the ubuntu installation
[06:48] <FirstLite> Danar: Sorry, I got dropped.  Did I miss anything?
[06:48] <Wimpie> about ubutuguide.org : apt-get install w32codecs is missing.  Different repository ?
[06:48] <HappyFool> Zunino: anyway, find out what window manager ;) and probably use apt-get source and 'apt-get build-dep', hack away, build and install
[06:49] <mdipi> Sktrdie: There is for partitioning, but it wants to blow the whole thing away :-/
[06:49] <zyth> Wimpie, I think it's in hoary-extras
[06:49] <Danar> FirstLite, i asked what next...
[06:49] <zyth> !w32codecs
[06:49] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats or http://ubuntuguide.org
[06:49] <nalioth> mdipi: i don't think ubuntu supports installing to ext devices, yet. i tried and it hung on reboot (couldnt find the base isntall)
[06:49] <sktrdie> mdipi: do u want to partition the FW?
[06:49] <HappyFool> Zunino: it may be that the window manager is scriptable, or customizable, in a way that makes it not necessary to hack C/C++ source, but I don't know
[06:49] <Zunino> Will building require me to rebuild the whole thing or does it just work as any regular modular build process, where only the changed parts wil be built and then linked together?
[06:49] <mdipi> Yeah, I think it'd just be easier for me to nuke my internal drive and go from that
[06:49] <mdipi> thanks for the help guys
[06:49] <Danar> !gparted
[06:49] <ubotu> Danar: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[06:49] <Zunino> HappyFool, interesting. That is possible indeed.
[06:50] <Danar> :(
[06:50] <sktrdie> do u guys have the ubuntu asses picture
[06:50] <HappyFool> Zunino: i imagine you'll need to build just the window manager. Seveas, do you know what wm kubuntu uses?
[06:50] <Danar> !parted
[06:50] <zyth> Zunino, you're probably best off to ask that in #gnome or whatever WM channel, they'll likely know more
[06:50] <ubotu> Danar: Are you smoking crack?
[06:50] <sktrdie> of the 3 asses touching eachother :P
[06:50] <Zunino> HappyFool, I guess I will have a look at KDE's development site.
[06:50] <Seveas> sktrdie, search the sounder@lists.ubuntu.com archive
[06:50] <HappyFool> Zunino: maybe ask in #kubuntu
[06:50] <zyth> ok #KDE
[06:50] <zyth> s/ok/or
[06:51] <Zunino> HappyFool, unfortunatelly, #kubuntu is way less busy than here and the likelihood of getting responses ditto.
[06:51] <scott_> zyth, no luck. I disabled onboard sound and the audigy still isn't working.
[06:51] <HappyFool> Zunino: ok, just a suggestion ;)
[06:51] <XandriX> i think it stalled at un[acking postfix ...
[06:51] <Zunino> HappyFool, thank you very much!
[06:51] <Zunino> HappyFool, I will go now. But thanks for your and the other guys' help.
[06:51] <Zunino> Cheers, everyone!
[06:52] <Amaranth> Zunino: Sure, but I bet most people here don't know anything about KDE. :)
[06:52] <HappyFool> good luck
[06:52] <zyth> scott_, hm, odd.
[06:52] <scott_> The 'hum' that I get right now did cut out for longer, like it was going to work though.
[06:52] <zyth> scott_, card model again please?
[06:52] <XandriX> um why is it stalling at unpacking postfix
[06:53] <Demian___> does anyone know how you can make ubuntu see your digital camera?
[06:53] <nalioth> rc51woody: why do you say the mv command is not right?
[06:53] <Demian___> at first he did
[06:53] <dacrepair> can someone point me in the direction of a good c compiler
[06:53] <HappyFool> dacrepair: gcc
[06:53] <Demian___> en then suddenly it didn't
[06:53] <Amaranth> dacrepair: gcc
[06:53] <Danar> ubuntu is male? :p
[06:53] <HappyFool> dacrepair: install the 'build-essential' package
[06:53] <dacrepair> thank you
[06:53] <sktrdie> Seveas: hu?
[06:53] <scott_> zyth, audigy 2 zs platinum
[06:54] <HappyFool> XandriX: you are installing from CD?
[06:54] <XandriX> HappyFool, yeah well its the pc itsself that frose
[06:54] <XandriX> lol old dumb machine that p2 400 with 320 mb o ram is
[06:54] <Seveas> sktrdie, I assume you referred to the picture of 3 women forming a sort-of Ubuntu logo with their asses. A url to this picture was posted on the sounder@lists.ubuntu.com mailing list
[06:54] <Danar> sktrdie, hoo?
[06:55] <XandriX> HappyFool, ugg cat got at the power cord ...
[06:55] <XandriX> damnit
[06:55] <HappyFool> XandriX: feline extermination is not yet supported by ubuntu install
[06:55] <Seveas> rofl :)
[06:55] <sktrdie> Seveas: do u have the link?
[06:56] <XandriX> HappyFool, when will it be lol
[06:56] <djp> is the following really necessary under hoary? http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[06:56] <HappyFool> XandriX: anyway, assuming your hardware is OK, it could be that your CD is bad
[06:56] <FirstLite> Danar: OK ... Well, I doubt your part table got corrupted, but it never hurts to back it up.  I'm not sure what next, though ... you might try a) shrinking the fat32 part by a smaller amount (this might help because gparted can probably cut off any part that's not being used for data) b) rebooting in case something got messed up c) installing Ubuntu to another partition and resizing stuff once you get it installed.  Sorry I can't help more :(
[06:56] <unreal> quick question, why would a bunch of modules be 'blacklisted'?
[06:56] <Seveas> sktrdie, http://www.alobbs.com/images/3ubuntu.jpg
[06:57] <zyth> what's the gnome equivalent of kmix?
[06:57] <XandriX> HappyFool, assuming it might be old ram tripping out to but well for hte moment everything is aok exept my cat wont be later
[06:57] <Seveas> zyth, gnome-volume-control perhaps...
[06:57] <wouterl> i have a problem with ethernet. when i preform 'ifconfig eth0", ifconfig replys that the device doesn't exist... it's probably a hardware problem so my question is: a pentium 120mhz, does it use PCI 2.1 ?
[06:57] <sktrdie> Seveas: awsome...
[06:57] <zyth> scott_, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18713&highlight=audigy+zs
[06:57] <Danar> FirstLite, C) is a ways away. i already have 4 partitions, so can't make another. it won't let me make an extended one for some reason, and i'm working on having space for an ubuntu partition now....
[06:58] <Danar> unreal, maybe they were conflicting with something
[06:58] <scott_> I can't ever get into ubuntuforums.
[06:58] <Anon3217> what is the minimum ram needed for Ubuntu?
[06:58] <zyth> scott_, just click that link
[06:59] <Anon3217> does anyone know?
[06:59] <dantheman64> 32MB
[06:59] <djp> Anon3217: 64mb should see you ok
[06:59] <dantheman64> as in the docs
[06:59] <unreal> Danar: how would I find out if that was happening?
[06:59] <dantheman64> but obviously that's gonna be REAL slow
[06:59] <FirstLite> Danar: To make extended partitions, you need to give up your fourth "primary" one.  If gparted is working OK now, try deleting hda4 (if it's expendable) before making extended parts.
[06:59] <Anon3217> would 128mb be enough for it to run wo/ problems?
[06:59] <djp> Anon3217: 32mb is also feasable
[06:59] <wouterl> sure Anon3217
[07:00] <rc51woody> whats the command for delete?
[07:00] <Echylo> rm
[07:00] <Anon3217> and, will Ubuntu dual boot w/ Win XP Home?
[07:00] <FirstLite> Danar: To clarify, there's a max of 4 "primary" partitions, and the extended ones live in the fourth primary one.
[07:00] <Danar> unreal, i don't really know enough to help you there, but i had to blacklist modules before due to conflicts. that's why i mentioned it
[07:00] <Seveas> Anon3217, yes
[07:00] <wouterl> Anon3217: yes
[07:00] <Danar> FirstLite, none of them are expendable yet, that's why i need to resize them
[07:00] <Anon3217> will the dual boot hurt the Win system?
[07:00] <Seveas> Anon3217, about the specs: if your system runs winxp, it can run ubuntu too
[07:00] <Seveas> Anon3217, it eill not hurt
[07:00] <scott_> zyth, no luck.
[07:00] <Danar> FirstLite, it won't let me resize it by even a little bit
[07:01] <djp> is the following really necessary under hoary? http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[07:01] <Seveas> maybe it will hurt Bill Gates' pride :)
[07:01] <scott_> zyth,  can't get onto that page. EIther here or any other computers on the network.
[07:01] <Seveas> djp, ubuntuguides is quite bad...
[07:01] <Heimdall> HappyFool : oh you're back :)
[07:01] <masahiro> I am fed up of NO SOUND!!!! ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[07:01] <wouterl> Anon3217 if you have windows 2000, windows 2000 will boot slower because he can't recognize the linux partition, that problem is fixed in xp
[07:01] <HappyFool> hey
[07:01] <Heimdall> HappyFool : don't worry I have no questions :) :-p
[07:01] <Seveas> djp, and that is absolutely NOT neccessary
[07:01] <HappyFool> busy ;)
[07:02] <Danar> FirstLite, i want to get rid of my fat32 partition by putting the data on hdb4. i already moved as much as i could to hdb4, and now i need to shrink hdb1 in order to enlarge hdb4 to fit more
[07:02] <unreal> Danar: is there a file listing all the blacklisted modules?
[07:02] <scott_> masahiro, I'm having the same problem. SB Audigy 2 ZS Platinum.
[07:02] <Heimdall> hehe
[07:02] <Andlinux21> maswan: you on a lappy?
[07:02] <narch> bah!
[07:02] <masahiro> scott_ I am onboard.
[07:02] <scott_> masahiro, nothing but a soothing hum from the speakers.
[07:02] <djp> Seveas: sure. that's what i was thinking... i couldn't understand why it was necessary. ok. thanks for the response.
[07:02] <scott_> ahh
[07:02] <narch> thought i had my IPv6 tunnel coming up properly, but no, not quite :/
[07:02] <Andlinux21> masahiro: you on a laptop
[07:02] <scott_> I don't want to revert back to windows, but there are a number of issues with this that are pissing me off.
[07:03] <Anon3217> what about drivers. what if my hardware doesn't have linux drivers. what can i do about that?
[07:03] <Danar> unreal, yeah...
[07:03] <djp> Anon3217: why not try out the livecd first
[07:03] <zyth> scott, you see the nice little speaker icon up next to your clock?
[07:03] <scott_> No sound, 3 monitor multihead setup not working, network not working, loss of Photoshop
[07:03] <scott_> Yep
[07:03] <wouterl> Anon3217: most drivers are supported, i wouldn't worry about that ...
[07:03] <mae> Anon3217: write your own drivers by reverse engineering :)
[07:03] <Anon3217> i have. i am currently emulating it on vmware and i like it
[07:03] <masahiro> on a pc
[07:03] <masahiro> its onboard
[07:03] <flodine> is there a command to uninstall kubuntu
[07:03] <Danar> unreal, in /etc/modules or something
[07:04] <Anon3217> mae: who do you make your own drivers?
[07:04] <pinoyphp> ubuntu-ph?
[07:04] <Wimpie> mplayer-586 is not in repository ?
[07:04] <Danar> Wimpie, it is..
[07:04] <zyth> scott_, ok, so right click the speaker icon
[07:04] <Danar> try universe
[07:04] <Seinnura> helo
[07:04] <scott_> zyth, the problem is, that the speakers are giving me the hum that I get when the pc is shut off .With windows I had the problem, but it went away when the drivers were loaded.
[07:04] <Danar> or multiverse
[07:04] <narch> danar, multiverse, i think
[07:04] <scott_> zyth, ok
[07:04] <Seinnura> any idea why i can't access dos floppy with long filename?
[07:04] <zyth> scott_, select 'open volume control'
[07:04] <Anon3217> hwo do you make your own drivers?
[07:05] <scott_> zyth, ok
[07:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how to install a tar.gz file?
[07:05] <narch> altho i've never gotten AC3 playback working with the mplayer in multiverse :/
[07:05] <Danar> Anon3217, very carefully :p
[07:05] <zyth> scott_, what's the window say at the top (mine says 'Soundblaster LIVE! Alsa)
[07:05] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you don't. you expand that file
[07:05] <narch> altho it may well be an alsa config issue
[07:05] <Seinnura> anyway i've force it with -t vfat
[07:05] <scott_> zyth, Sound Blaster Audigy2(Alsa Mixer)
[07:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[07:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so it's like a .zip file?
[07:05] <Danar> ChurcH_of_FoamY, .tar.gz is a compressed/zipped file
[07:05] <Anon3217> danar: ha ha. what about hardware that doesn't have linux drivers for it?
[07:05] <green-> okay.. had some good breakfast.. now back to DVD playing.. anyone doing this successfully under ubuntu/linux in general?
[07:06] <masahiro> i dont get any sound at all
[07:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok cool
[07:06] <narch> green, using xine, yes
[07:06] <zyth> scott_, ok, and on playback and capture, all the volumes are set to non-mute levels?
[07:06] <u19809> danar : is thdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras main universe multiverse
[07:06] <u19809> restricted
[07:06] <u19809> is repo not ok ?
[07:06] <Danar> Anon3217, first you'd have to learn programming. drivers require low level programming and is for more advanced programmers...
[07:06] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: tar.gz, tar.bz2, tbz, tgz, zip, rar, ace, amd more i'm sure i'm missing are compressed files
[07:06] <scorpix> what i need to install to see quicktime movies in firefox?
[07:06] <rc51woody> nalioth: i swear i went through the java directions 3 times
[07:06] <green-> narch: available via apt?
[07:06] <rc51woody> and still its not working
[07:06] <narch> green, i even do DVD editing under ubuntu (actually, kubuntu)
[07:06] <Anon3217> danar: i can't program though
[07:06] <Seveas> scorpix: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[07:06] <FirstLite> Danar: OK.  If you put everything back on hdb1, then delete hdb4 and make it "extended" (hdb5), you'll be able to make more extended partitions.  I don't see how you're going to be able to shrink hdb1, though ... I assume it's the biggest partition?  Any free space on hda/hdc?
[07:06] <xry> how do i add screenresolutions? I added three when installing, i need bigger ones..
[07:06] <scott_> zyth, yes, everything is full volume and there were a few mute icons a while ago but I unchecked em before joining irc.
[07:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok thats a great explanation
[07:06] <narch> green, yeah, via apt
[07:07] <Danar> u19809, that doesn't look official...
[07:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thanx you
[07:07] <Seveas> xry: GNULinuxer: To find out ho you can change your display's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:07] <masahiro> ANYBODY WANNA help a really fustrated noob?
[07:07] <green-> narch: i prefer gnome over kde, is there anything that the kde env offers that gnome doesn't that's significant?
[07:07] <nalioth> rc51woody: i've installed several machines using them, and not had a problem.
[07:07] <Seveas> masahiro, why don't you try the mailing list?
[07:07] <zyth> scott_, we'll go for the overkill, select edit, preferences, and check the rest of the 'tracks to be visible'
[07:07] <u19809> danar : it is on the wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats page ?
[07:07] <Danar> Anon3217, even if you could i wouldn't recommend you making drivers unless you know what you're doing. and even if you could, it's not something that would happen over night
[07:07] <scott_> zyth, ok, give me a mnute
[07:07] <rc51woody> nalioth: would you have  a few minutes to trouble shoot mine?
[07:07] <masahiro> seveas: mailing list?
[07:07] <Seveas> masahiro, ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
[07:08] <Anon3217> danar: so what do i do? i want to use ubuntu but I cant find drivers.
[07:08] <masahiro> what do i do? email them?
[07:08] <Seveas> Anon3217, which pieco of hardware>
[07:08] <masahiro> ive posted n the forums
[07:08] <Danar> u19809, well i guess it's not in there. it's in the official one though. use synaptic, and go to add repository > custom, and check multiverse
[07:08] <Seveas> masahiro, subscribe to that list at lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo and mail your question to that list
[07:08] <u19809> has synaptic a KDE version ?
[07:08] <Seveas> the smart people aren't in the forums, they're on the list
[07:09] <Anon3217> an ATI Radeon 9800PRO Agp, a Creative Audigy 2 Z5 Platinum, and an external sony cd
[07:09] <masahiro> well ive posted in the forum
[07:09] <narch> green, i just prefer KDE, personal preferance :)
[07:09] <Seveas> u19809, there's kpackagemanager and kynaptic
[07:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how to force ubuntu to clean it's self up?
[07:09] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, clean up?
[07:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea after so many boots it automaticly cleans it's self up
[07:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i think the default is 33 boots
[07:10] <HappyFool> maybe he means fsck
[07:10] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, ah fsck you mean
[07:10] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, that's no cleanup
[07:10] <Anon3217> seveas: an ATI Radeon 9800PRO Agp, a Creative Audigy 2 Z5 Platinum, and an external sony cd
[07:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> fsck?
[07:10] <Seveas> just a sanity check
[07:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[07:10] <Danar> FirstLite, hda is a hard drive i haven't touched in months because it has a corrupt partition table, with data on it i'd like to recover some day. hdb1 is about 2x the size of hdb4
[07:10] <Seveas> for the ati: there's a driver in linux-restricted-modules
[07:10] <Danar> FirstLite, hdc is the cd/dvd drive
[07:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i thought it went through and removed al the crap ya don't need lol
[07:10] <masahiro> im going to reformat and install windows soon and forget about linsux
[07:10] <Seveas> for the audigy: search the forum
[07:11] <Seveas> for the sony: no idea, ask on the mailing list
[07:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> HEY LINUX ROCKS!!!
[07:11] <masahiro> if you dont like sound then it does
[07:11] <Danar> u19809, yeah
[07:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but go ahead if ya like viruses, spyware, adaware
[07:11] <masahiro> but if your pc is your tv, stereo, and the like, it sux
[07:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> worms, trojans
[07:11] <Seveas> masahiro, stop annoying people...
[07:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no you jst have to teach it to do what ya want
[07:11] <masahiro> dont forget the numerous problems and security holes
[07:12] <HappyFool> masahiro: that is a perfectly valid thing to do if you do not have time to resolve your sound issues
[07:12] <masahiro> well it dosent want to do what i want it to do
[07:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> in linux yea right
[07:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and yu have to make it do what you want
[07:12] <djp> is anyone aware of a way to configure printer output settings like page width, length etc, using the default setup under hoary?
[07:12] <Seveas> masahiro, please cool down a bit, ask your sound question at the mailing list and return then...
[07:13] <Seveas> djp, system->administration->printing
[07:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i thought linux at first was a waste of time
[07:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and then i got to know it
[07:13] <narch> djp, isn't that going to be a case of configuring CUPS ?
[07:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i woulden't trade it for the world
[07:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[07:13] <djp> Seveas: thanks
[07:13] <narch> church, i wont detail my history with linux, except to say its been a rollercoaster :P
[07:13] <XandriX> um should i put it in ext3 or reiserfs ?
[07:13] <Danar> linux has many advantages over other OSes, but it does have a few disadvantages as well. mainly difficulties for new users
[07:14] <nalioth> narch: you know it's been nothing but fun
[07:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i bet
[07:14] <Anon3217> for the ubuntu shipit, do you get just an install cd or both live and install cd?
[07:14] <HappyFool> XandriX: i'd stick with the default, ext3
[07:14] <narch> the most humourous part of my linux history, was how i got started
[07:14] <aaron> narch: i think everyone's first encounter with *nix has been a rollercoaster :)
[07:14] <Seveas> Anon3217, both
[07:14] <daniel^> many difficulties for addicted gamers
[07:14] <narch> i was about to buy BSD
[07:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea it is dificult to use at first but if you stick with it it becomes easyer
[07:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> after a while
[07:14] <narch> and the guy running the company told me 'try linux first, BSD is a bit pricey for a student'
[07:14] <abbot45> how do i check what my network IP is?
[07:14] <XandriX> HappyFool, im useto reiser in slack but ill go wiht what you say cuz reiser trips out on that machine lol
[07:14] <Danar> i'm on the livecd now, which i didn't know i was gonna get :p
[07:14] <djp> narch: possibly... under ubuntu everything is very much print and go. i only want to tweak things slightly. i had an awful experience using debian 3.1 with printing setup. there were other issues mind  but i won't bother going into them here...
[07:14] <khermans> My GDM theme is broken, and I cannot log in -- how do i change back to default Human theme?
[07:14] <netool> Hi, I am having a little problem : I have installed Ubuntu and it works fine, execpt the sound. The only sound it produces is the bleeps at startup.
[07:14] <nalioth> Anon3217: you get a really nicely pkgd install and live cd
[07:14] <Seveas> abbot45, ifconfig
[07:14] <narch> this was when linux was at v0.13
[07:14] <scott_> zyth, everything checked, unmuted, and cranked up. No change in sound.
[07:14] <abbot45> Seveas, thanks
[07:15] <Danar> abbot45, for your external ip, try www.whatismyip.com
[07:15] <zyth> scott_, ok, go to System, Preferences, Sound
[07:15] <aaron> khermans: how is your gdm broken?
[07:15] <Danar> for your internal ip, what Seveas said
[07:15] <narch> back then, a 'typical linux distro' was 2 floppies :P
[07:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> <---gonna buy an aleinware pc with ubuntu on it ^_^
[07:15] <FirstLite> Danar: OK.  To further complicate things, the parted documentation (http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_mono/parted.html  see "2.4.13 resize") says that parted doesn't need to defrag a fat32 partition to resize it.  (NTFS does need defragging, IIRC.)  So I don't know why resizing hdb1 doesn't work ...
[07:15] <khermans> aaron: it will not allow me to input my user and pass
[07:15] <u19809> danar : just reinstalled synaptic (kynaptic is no as functional)
[07:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> seems they offer that distro now
[07:15] <zyth> scott_, er sorry 'Multimedia Systems Selector'
[07:15] <u19809> danar : but cannot find add repo-> multiverse
[07:15] <abbot45> Danar, i already have that one.
[07:15] <Danar> u19809, synaptic works in kde too
[07:15] <aaron> can you get to a terminal?
[07:15] <khermans> aaron: i tried to change to the Bluecurve theme -- but the files are not really there
[07:16] <Danar> abbot45, now you know how to get both
[07:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> brb
[07:16] <abbot45> Danar, thanks
[07:16] <scott_> zyth, ok, both are on ESD
[07:16] <u19809> danar : I have installed it but still cannot find the add ->
[07:16] <Danar> FirstLite, strange.. :(
[07:16] <zyth> scott_, change em both to ALSA
[07:16] <zyth> scott_, then hit test
[07:16] <scott_> zyth, no test sound on either
[07:17] <zyth> weirddd...
[07:17] <aaron> khermans: try apt-get --reinstall install gdm
[07:17] <Danar> u19809, Settings > repositories > add > custom
[07:17] <aaron> with sudo of course
[07:17] <netool> So how can I get sound to work? I can't access volume control either: It gives me the error: No volume control elements and/or devices found.
[07:17] <zyth> scott_, I am somewhat stumped :/  The card is obviously detected and present.
[07:17] <scott_> zyth, yeah. I never had issues with any other distros
[07:18] <u19809> danar : donno what version you have but my synaptic has no repositories->add.
[07:18] <zyth> scott_, you made sure line out is plugged into the right jack, yes? May sound silly, but it could cause problems, but be corrected in software.
[07:18] <RobNyc-aWay> HAPPY FATHERS DAY TO ALL DADDYS LOL ...
[07:18] <u19809> danar : only repo-> new but that has no custom ???
[07:18] <hondje> RobNyc-aWay: thanks, man
[07:18] <netool> So how can I get sound to work? I can't access volume control either: It gives me the error: No volume control elements and/or devices found.
[07:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i do think that the other companys should make there free programs availible in source for linux
[07:18] <Danar> no custom
[07:18] <green-> narch: tried to run gxine and got an X error... (insufficient resources for operation).. any idea what might cause this?
[07:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i mean there free anyway right?
[07:18] <scott_> zyth, it is. I haven't changed anything since I went from windows to linux except the OS
[07:18] <Danar> u19809, forget 'custom' just check multiverse at that point
[07:18] <zyth> scott_, hm k.
[07:18] <Danar> then you reload the package info and it should be listed
[07:19] <kcburyshaker> i have a question    i downloaded celestia from synaptic.....and now i cant find it in any menu   how do i run it
[07:19] <narch> green, no idea, unless your X driver doesn't have xv or something
[07:19] <zyth> scott_, try giving it a reboot, see if alsa says anything on boot.
[07:19] <XandriX> HappyFool, so far no freeze
[07:19] <scott_> ok
[07:19] <XandriX> gonna go watch tv
[07:19] <u19809> danar : I have no 'checkable' anything.  Just an edit field with section
[07:19] <khermans> aaron: that did not work -- the Bluecurve theme is stil set
[07:19] <netool> Anybody :)
[07:19] <khermans> aaron: what file is GDM theme changes updating?
[07:19] <u19809> should I type in multiverse there ? and for which URI ? all ?
[07:19] <Danar> u19809, you're in custom, aren't you? :p
[07:19] <green-> probably should upgrade to a newer driver.. this is the stock nv driver
[07:20] <u19809> danar : either I am blind but settings->repository has not 'custom'anything
[07:20] <Seveas> green-: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:20] <Danar> u19809, click settings menu, click repositories, click 'add' button, check 'multiverse'
[07:20] <green-> is it effective to apt-get the nvidia drivers, or better to manually install?
[07:20] <Seveas> u19809, are you on hoary or warty?
[07:20] <u19809> danas : hoary
[07:20] <narch> yeah, i'd suggest using the nvidia driver, unless you're a die-hard 'NO polluting my kernel' user, in which case, live without video playback :P
[07:20] <u19809> seveas : hoary
[07:20] <Seveas> green-, read the page at the url i typed :)
[07:20] <kangpeh> too long you've wandered in winter
[07:20] <Danar> u19809, then click ok
[07:20] <kangpeh> far from my far reachin gaze
[07:21] <green-> heh doing such now, thanks
[07:21] <aaron> khermans: not sure. so did you install a different display manager then?  i didn't know there was a bluecurve display manager.
[07:21] <u19809> my version of synaptic is 0.56 and i have not add button and no checkable custom on the
[07:21] <kangpeh> Young green-, you can always create your own .deb ;)
[07:21] <u19809> repository dialog
[07:21] <netool> I am going to be completley bald soon!
[07:21] <Seveas> u19809, you can also manually edit the sources file using sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:22] <Seveas> u19809: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[07:22] <khermans> aaron: there is not
[07:22] <Danar> mine's 0.56 too
[07:22] <khermans> aaron: i installed the Bluecurve theme from an RPM
[07:22] <aaron> khermans: and it broke your gdm?
[07:23] <nalioth> khermans: aaron bluecurve rocks
[07:23] <skalle1> anyone know how to fix this: (evolution-2.2:22754): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[07:23] <skalle1> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[07:23] <skalle1> es menu class init
[07:23] <aaron> khermans: are you running warty or hoary?
[07:23] <khermans> aaron: however, do you think you could change your GDM theme for me, close the window, and then do a "grep -Ri newthemename /etc"
[07:23] <Danar> what's /dev/mapper/* ?
[07:23] <khermans> aaron: hoary
[07:24] <dacrepair> also is there basic stamp software
[07:24] <HappyFool> dacrepair: what is stamp software?
[07:24] <green-> narch: is there more i need to do to get DVD to play other than installing gxine? I get the same error w/ gxine I get w/ totem (error reading from DVD)... is it a codec issue?
[07:24] <Echylo> software with a stamp on it
[07:24] <Heimdall> viva linuuuuuuuuuuuuuux : ftp://mirror.linuxsoft.cz/wallpapers/264/orig00000143.jpg
[07:24] <dacrepair> its a language called "basic stamp"
[07:24] <zyth> green-, you need to install libdvdcss
[07:25] <khermans> aaron: GDM told me that the Bluecurve theme was messed up. certain files were missing, etc -- and switched to another theme but i cannot log in
[07:25] <dacrepair> its used on pic's
[07:25] <narch> green, you might need libdvdread
[07:25] <nalioth> green-: read what ubotu says
[07:25] <khermans> aaron: the input box for user will not allow me to type in it
[07:25] <narch> or libdvdcss
[07:25] <nalioth> !Restricted
[07:25] <ubotu> well, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:25] <HappyFool> dacrepair: hmm. is it a proprietary language ?
[07:25] <dacrepair> no
[07:26] <Danar> Heimdall, estella warren :)
[07:26] <khermans> Cany anyone tell me what file the GDM theme changes?
[07:26] <dacrepair> its used to program PIC's
[07:26] <Echylo> Heimdall, that wallpaper looks weird, like her head is put on it
[07:26] <green-> hmmm apt says libdvdcss is only available as part of another package.. weird.
[07:26] <Heimdall> Danar : actually I don't know her ;)
[07:26] <Danar> Heimdall, google her
[07:26] <aaron> khermans: not exactly sure. bluecurve is a gnome theme, so if you are using the GDM and not KDM, i don't know why it would break your login manager, even with files missing.
[07:26] <Danar> there's better pics of her
[07:26] <green-> ah maybe via the hoary extras
[07:26] <HappyFool> dacrepair: propietary means non-free, controlled by a company
[07:26] <wouterl> if I put a new ethernet card in my pc, will ubuntu create /dev/eth0 automaticly?
[07:26] <khermans> I need to reset back to the default human theme!
[07:27] <dacrepair> i know
[07:27] <Danar> including the unmodified version
[07:27] <Heimdall> Danar : I think... no matter :)
[07:27] <HappyFool> dacrepair: anyway, using synaptic's function, i can't find any obvious matches
[07:27] <khermans> aaron: could you please just update you GDM theme real quick to let me know hat file it changes?
[07:27] <khermans> aaron: that wil give me an idea
[07:27] <scott_> zyth, nope. Nothing.
[07:27] <sens> If I've just downloaded an Icon pack as a .tar.gz how would I go about installing them?
[07:27] <u19809> seveas : thanx ... any explanation on different between uni/multiverse ?
[07:28] <zyth> scott_, :(
[07:28] <dacrepair> HappyFool: do you know what PIC microcontrollers are?
[07:28] <HappyFool> dacrepair: what's PIC again? programmable integrated circuit?
[07:28] <Seveas> sens, art.gnome.org/faq.php
[07:28] <HappyFool> dacrepair: i should, but i've forgotten
[07:28] <sens> seveas: thanks man
[07:28] <Seveas> u19809, www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[07:28] <dacrepair> HappyFool:programmable interupt controller
[07:28] <scott_> zyth, I even went into the packet manager and got anything alsa related.
[07:28] <Danar> Heimdall, here's that pic: http://www.superiorpics.com/estella_warren/images/estella003.jpg
[07:28] <zyth> scott_, unfortunately, I'm at the end of my knowledge on the subject.  Perhaps someone else might know more :( I'm sorry
[07:28] <amonkey> what package do i need to compile something that needs glib?
[07:28] <scott_> Well, thanks for trying!
[07:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> IS IT normal for the encoding of a dvd to take 16 hours?
[07:29] <selleckus> suspend the computer or do I need to load modules for something
[07:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> on a p4 3.2ghz with 1gb ram?
[07:29] <dacrepair> HappyFool: some yse a system called "basic Stamp" instead of "c"
[07:29] <narch> broken, no
[07:29] <Seveas> BROKEN_LADDER, if you didn't install linux-686: yes
[07:30] <dacrepair> HappyFool: you may have heard of PBasic
[07:30] <scott_> zyth, when the pc is booting up and all the processes are running through, the 'hum' cuts out and sounds like it's going to work when 'Starting Hotplug Subsystems' shows. Then when 'Setting up Alsa' shows the hum comes back.
[07:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> Linux BROKENLADDER 2.6.10-5-686 #1 Tue Jun 7 09:00:32 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:30] <HappyFool> dacrepair: google revealed this: http://www.parallax.com/html_pages/downloads/software/software_basic_stamp.asp
[07:30] <zyth> scott_, yeah, unfortunately, I couldn't tell you why, I am stumped
[07:30] <wouterl> small question: if I put a new ethernet card in my pc, will ubuntu create /dev/eth0 automaticly?
[07:31] <HappyFool> dacrepair: i'm not sure if any of those are available in ubuntu's repositories; if not, you'll have to download and install from source
[07:31] <Seveas> wouterl, yes, or /dev/eth1 if it's the second card..
[07:31] <green-> bah, installed libdvdcss2 and still got dvd read error
[07:31] <scott_> zyth, oh well. Thanks a lot for trying.
[07:31] <Heimdall> hehe Danar
[07:32] <FirstLite> Danar: If 'mount' and 'swapon -s' don't show any active use of hdb, and it still doesn't work, you might try parted on the Knoppix LiveCD or something.  Or getting a tape drive :)  I gotta run, good luck :) ...
[07:32] <zyth> scott_, np, I hope someone can help you
[07:32] <Danar> FirstLite, thx. later
[07:32] <wouterl> Seveas: so if he doesn't do it, it's because he can't recognize it?
[07:32] <jeroen_> Is there any general advice on what to do when your Thunderbird profile has gone bad?
[07:32] <Seveas> wouterl, most likely
[07:33] <aaron> kherman: try this- sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[07:33] <aaron> kherman: it doesn't tell you what files are updated.
[07:33] <dacrepair> HappyFool:not avalible for Apt-get rop.
[07:34] <dacrepair> HappyFool:*rEp
[07:34] <HappyFool> dacrepair: it looks that way
[07:34] <HappyFool> dacrepair: i see there is some microchip related software in the repositories
[07:35] <skalle1> amonkey, something like libglib1.2-dev
[07:35] <HappyFool> dacrepair: picasm, picp and simulpic, for example
[07:35] <dacrepair> HappyFool: really, i'll have to look into that
[07:35] <Seveas> dacrepair, and gpsim
[07:35] <jeroen_> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnasium
[07:35] <dacrepair> HappyFool: what did you search?
[07:36] <HappyFool> dacrepair: i did a search for 'PIC' in 'names and description' (this is using synaptic)
[07:36] <Seveas> dacrepair, apt-cache search pic (shows a hell of a lot irrelevant things too though..)
[07:36] <HappyFool> yah
[07:36] <Danar> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # swapoff -av
[07:36] <Danar> swapoff on /dev/hdb3
[07:36] <dacrepair> Happyfool: thanks
[07:36] <Danar> does that mean swap is being used?
[07:36] <lukus001> I'm trying to install chroot... and i'm at the stage where it's asking for my locales.... which one do i use /find out?
[07:36] <green-> okay, this dvd is working, but is slow as piss
[07:36] <scott_> zyth, I got it working by plugging into the onboard sound, enabling it in bios, but... isn't that kinda bullshit? Shouldn't I be able to use the Audigy?
[07:37] <HappyFool> Danar: i think it means it not being used anymore ;)
[07:37] <kangpeh> ARRGH
[07:37] <kangpeh> I can't play .MIDI files
[07:37] <kangpeh> lolol
[07:37] <Seveas> kangpeh, install timidity then...
[07:37] <Danar> HappyFool, but mount output isn't changing
[07:37] <jeroen_> Is there any general advice on what to do when your Thunderbird profile has gone bad?
[07:37] <Danar> jeroen_, make a new one?
[07:37] <lukus001> Can somone help me find out what my 'locales' is
[07:38] <HappyFool> Danar: i don't see swap listed in my mount output, and afaik it's enabled
[07:38] <aaron> khermans: any luck?
[07:38] <Seveas> lukus001, in a terminal type: locale
[07:38] <HappyFool> Danar: or so 'free' says, anyway
[07:38] <skalle1> is there an ubuntu developers IRC channel?
[07:38] <adnans> #ubuntu-dev ?
[07:38] <Seveas> skalle1, ubuntu-devel
[07:38] <lukus001> Seveas: thanks once again
[07:38] <green-> is hdparm used to turn on dma on a dvd drive?
[07:38] <Seveas> green-, yes
[07:38] <sens> Can anyone help me install cadega, I essentially need a step by step guide as I'm a newb
[07:39] <dacrepair> HapyFool: one mor thing, i know how to configure eternet cards but i have airsnort and a prizm card but not installed yet (hardware wise, not physically plugged into pci slot) but i want to know will i need to do any extra config or tell linux that i have a wireless card installed
[07:39] <Seveas> hdparm -d1 /dev/your_dvd_drive enables dma
[07:39] <HappyFool> dacrepair: sorry, not a clue
[07:39] <Seveas> dacrepair, prisms generally install without a glitch
[07:39] <HappyFool> dacrepair: no wireless here
[07:39] <jeroen_> Danar, If I do that, how do I convert my mail and settings to the new one?
[07:40] <narch> my orinocos all work without telling the kernel anything, at least, on sane distros, i gave up on slackware because of wlan stuff :P
[07:40] <dacrepair> HappyFool: so it will detect my card on startup?
[07:40] <Danar> hrm, i'm also getting an error in qtparted. also generic and unspecified
[07:40] <Danar> :(
[07:40] <HappyFool> dacrepair: um, ask Seveas
[07:40] <HappyFool> ;)
[07:40] <dacrepair> k
[07:40] <Seveas> dacrepair, most likely it will
[07:40] <dacrepair> k thanks
[07:40] <Danar> jeroen_, you'd do better asking in #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org
[07:40] <green-> ah much smoother... now, if only i could get sound working :)
[07:40] <dacrepair> well, i'm gonna reboot an install
[07:41] <dacrepair> if i need help, i know where to look
[07:41] <Seveas> green-, sound in what?
[07:41] <dacrepair> thank you
[07:41] <HappyFool> good luck
[07:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> whats a segmentation fault
[07:41] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, that means a program is oopsing
[07:41] <green-> saveas: guess my sound isn't setup yet.. haven't tested it yet.. but the DVD is playing w/o sound...
[07:41] <green-> man dvd looks pixelated.. i guess that's just because its so much coarser res than the screen
[07:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok because my grapevine program is giving me a segmentation fault
[07:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i told it to use the wrong dir
[07:42] <HappyFool> green-: step back from the monitor ;)
[07:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and now it crashes
[07:43] <Danar> anyone know if i can defrag a partition if i boot from a win98 setup cd?
[07:43] <green-> happy: yeah :) .. looks pretty damned good.. okay.. now sound and we're all set :) then i just have to get my LEDs working
[07:43] <Danar> i doubt it... :/
[07:43] <Seveas> Danar, that's not possible, you need to boot into a real windows system
[07:43] <aaron> Danar: no, you can't.  it is a windows utility
[07:43] <aty> anybody here that was able to config wireless on there system?
[07:44] <Danar> aaron, yeah, hence booting from a win98 cd :p
[07:44] <Seveas> aty, quite a few people actually :)
[07:44] <aty> great
[07:44] <aaron> Danar: i meant it needs to be installed on a windows partition.
[07:44] <narch> i have wireless configured on my laptop, but its a knoppix install, no *ubuntu
[07:45] <narch> s/no/not/
[07:45] <Danar> aaron, oh. so i couldn't even run it with wine or anything?
[07:45] <tweakism_> wireless works fine under ubuntu for me, w/ an intel centrino using ipw2200 drivers.
[07:45] <aty> i was wondering if you had any links to sites with tutorials, i have a netgear wag511, which is an atheros chipset
[07:45] <Danar> why does linux not have a defrag utility for fat32???
[07:45] <aaron> Danar: not that i am aware of.
[07:45] <Seveas> aty, atheros should work out of the box
[07:45] <HappyFool> Danar: hmm. could it be that fat32 is not a native linux filesystem? ;)
[07:45] <narch> aty, in my case, i just inserted the card and configured WEP in /etc/network/interfaces, and that was it
[07:45] <aty> excellent
[07:46] <aty> thank you very much
[07:46] <jamey3> Danar, why don't you convert from FAT32. It's age-old.
[07:46] <green-> great.. going to have to build alsa manually. meh.
[07:46] <Danar> HappyFool, so? it supports it. (can read/write to it)
[07:46] <narch> my cards are all orinoco tho...
[07:46] <aaron> Danar: linux defrags automatially. it isn't something you start up, like in windows.
[07:46] <aty> well if it works out the box then it shouldent really be a problem
[07:46] <Danar> jamey3, i want to delete it, after removing the data. in order to do so i need to resize it. apparently i can't do so until i defrag it
[07:46] <jamey3> aaron, but I doubt it does anything to FAT32 partitions
[07:47] <jamey3> Danar: ah I see. Sorry I don't know
[07:47] <XandriX-> is there a stock kernel for pentium 2 in ubuntu
[07:47] <jamey3> have you searched for "defrag" in packages
[07:47] <aaron> jamey3: correct. if linux isn't installed on a fat32 partition....
[07:47] <Danar> yeah
[07:47] <u19809> anybody knows where transcode package is ?
[07:47] <tweakism_> Danar: I'm pretty sure there are linux defrag tools available for fat32.
[07:47] <XandriX-> there are i jsut forgot the name
[07:48] <Seveas> u19809, not in standard ubuntu repositories
[07:48] <Danar> tweakism_, i'd appreciate it if you could point one out...
[07:48] <aaron> Danar: so is your linux system installed on a fat32 partition, or is it another partition altogether?
[07:48] <Seveas> hoary-extras on backports has it though..
[07:48] <tweakism_> Danar: Looking now.
[07:48] <Danar> aaron, on an ext3 partition
[07:48] <hondje> anyone know if a newer version of evolution is in backports?
[07:48] <Seveas> hondje, there is none
[07:48] <hondje> bummer
[07:49] <XandriX-> Seveas: um im guessing a stock kerel is available for pentium 2 in ubuntu right ?
[07:49] <Danar> i'm trying to get rid of this fat32 partition though. but i want to keep the data, so i'm trying to move it to another partition, which is half the size. both are nearly full
[07:49] <aaron> Danar: I don't know of any linux defrag utilities personally. i'm sure goolgling around a bit will turn something up
[07:49] <Seveas> XandriX, sure
[07:49] <Seveas> use the standard kernel
[07:49] <Seveas> linux-386 package
[07:49] <XandriX-> Seveas: i forgot howto list packages with dpkg
[07:49] <Seveas> dpkg -l
[07:49] <jeroen_> Danar, Gparted can convert filesystems, do you mean that?
[07:50] <Seveas> (for installed packages)
[07:50] <Danar> jeroen_, it won't covert it without destroying the data
[07:50] <aaron> Danar: mount your fat32 partition in your linux partition and back up the data. then use a linux install cd to format the fat32 as ext3
[07:50] <Danar> aaron, how do you propose i back up ~200Gb of data? :p
[07:50] <XandriX-> Seveas: thankyou and um in worst case i know how to compile my own kernel so ill do so Seveas what about available packages how do you list those ?
[07:50] <tweakism_> use a linux install cd?  you can format the partition right from your running linux system.
[07:50] <u19809> seveas : transcode in backports depends on libgcc1 1.4.0.0-7 which is missing ... ?
[07:50] <aaron> Danar: very carefully.  :D
[07:50] <XandriX-> Danar: dar and kdar
[07:50] <Danar> that's why i need to move it from one partition to another
[07:50] <Seveas> XandriX, use synaptic :)
[07:51] <Danar> XandriX, ?
[07:51] <Seveas> or apt-cache search
[07:51] <swarm> I've tried to build last fglrx module from ATI with kernel 2.6.11-1-amd64-k8-smp and it's broken
[07:51] <XandriX-> Seveas: thankyou once again
[07:51] <Seveas> u19809, that one is in hoary-backports
[07:51] <XandriX-> ubotu: lol nice nicknmae very inspired from this distro am i right ?
[07:51] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, XandriX-
[07:51] <Danar> this would be simple if i could simply keep resizing the partitions, but it won't let me, and won't even tell me why
[07:52] <bleh321> i am trying to install ubuntu in a Vmware partition and the installation says i have no ahrd drives attached ?
[07:52] <XandriX-> ubotu: hehe
[07:52] <ubotu> XandriX-: I don't know
[07:52] <u19809> seveas : it claims to find only version 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu7
[07:52] <tweakism_> ubotu: botsnack
[07:52] <ubotu> thanks tweakism_ :)
[07:52] <tweakism_> yep.
[07:52] <XandriX-> bleh321: hehe bad configuration
[07:52] <bleh321> bad configuration in vmware ?
[07:52] <aaron> Danar: i think you can only resize partitions that are the same file system, but i'm not 100% sure. :/
[07:52] <XandriX-> yeah did you create an ide harddrive in vmware ?
[07:53] <Danar> aaron, that doesn't make sense.
[07:53] <bleh321> no scsi
[07:53] <XandriX-> bleh321: u should have made it ide its not recomended for nothing
[07:53] <Lafitte-> what is best choice for movie player in Ubuntu ??
[07:53] <mats> was i universal or univers or else what was it I needed to get in the apt-source list?
[07:54] <XandriX-> Lafitte-: gmplayer
[07:54] <Lafitte-> xine and totem are laggy
[07:54] <Danar> prolly xine or mplayer...
[07:54] <Lafitte-> XandriX,  ill ge tit now
[07:54] <Seveas> ooh, freud loves you Lafitte- :)
[07:54] <SirGir> Lafitte-, I use VLC
[07:54] <XandriX-> Lafitte-: have fun hehe
[07:54] <Danar> Lafitte-, there's a section on the xine site about speeding it up if needed
[07:54] <Lafitte-> Seveas,  ???
[07:54] <green-> any chance anyone else is running Ubuntu on an asus z71v?
[07:54] <Seveas> Lafitte-, nvm
[07:54] <Lafitte-> Danar,  ok  ill lool
[07:54] <aaron> Danar: if you have two filesystems of the same fs (ext3), then resizing is easy.  I don't think you can resize a fat32 fs if the rest of the disk is ext3
[07:55] <Lafitte-> Seveas,  thats not fair  hehe
[07:55] <bleh321> ok , vmware 5 doesnt give me an option to have an ide hard drive
[07:55] <XandriX-> bleh321: um yes it does if i can make it and i have latest vmware
[07:55] <mats> does anyone know what i need to put in my apt-source list to get the newest packagets?
[07:56] <XandriX-> bleh321: its when u creat a virtual machine
[07:56] <Bramme> mats, see ubuntuguide.org
[07:56] <Danar> aaron, i'm trying to shrink hdb1 (fat32) so i can expand hdb4 (ext2) and put more data from hdb1 on it, until i can remove hdb1
[07:56] <HappyFool> mats: you can use synaptic to add repositories. no need to edit text files
[07:56] <green-> umm.. why is the kernel-source package for 2.4.27 when ubuntu is 2.6.10-5?
[07:56] <Seveas> green-, because you need linux-source...
[07:56] <XandriX-> green-: some prefer 2.4 for servers and such
[07:56] <mats> Bramme: thanks ;)
[07:57] <aaron> Danar: can you back up your 200GB to a network drive, or FTP?
[07:57] <Seveas> kernel-* packages are from debian, on ubuntu they're all called linux-something..
[07:57] <Danar> aaron, not a chance
[07:57] <bionic> Can anyone tell me why i get no results when it refreshes on this site, http://206.168.146.114/mx/AMAflashresults.html , flash works fine on other items. (this works fine in IE on my brothers laptop too). Thanks.?
[07:57] <bleh321> i just dont see any such option, could you tell me were it is ?  all vmware says is "scsi disks"
[07:57] <Danar> aaron, only have one functional computer
[07:57] <XandriX-> bionic: what broswer do you use to see it ?
[07:57] <aaron> Danar, why do you want to convert the fat32?
[07:57] <green-> Seveas: seems like it's still a bit different.. 2.6.10-34.2  instead of -5
[07:58] <green-> safe to use that 34.2 pkg though?
[07:58] <bionic> XandriX, mozilla firefox
[07:58] <Danar> aaron, cause it's evil & inefficient, etc.
[07:58] <XandriX-> bleh when u make a virtual machine when it comes to create drive its ide not scsi
[07:58] <bionic> XandriX, did you get results?
[07:58] <XandriX-> bionic: do you ahve hte flash plugin ?
[07:58] <bionic> XandriX, its all blank here, yeah i have the plugin
[07:58] <XandriX-> bionic: i cant rly chekc atm
[07:58] <aaron> Danar, does it have a windows installation on it?
[07:58] <Seveas> green-, you're missing out on some clue regarding kernel packages ;)
[07:58] <XandriX-> bionic: so you installed the plugin and restarted firefox
[07:58] <Danar> aaron, i'm also trying to get it all on the same partition so i can delete it and make a partition to install ubuntu
[07:58] <Danar> aaron, nope
[07:59] <bionic> XandriX, yup, it loads flash fine, but i get no tekst where there should be the result list. Rightclick and i get the flash menu and everything
[07:59] <aaron> danar, what are you running now?
[07:59] <Bramme> how do i make grub to redetect the installed operating systems like it is done while installing ubuntu ?
[07:59] <Danar> aaron, the livecd
[07:59] <aaron> danar, oh- i see.
[07:59] <XandriX-> bionic: odd
[07:59] <bionic> yeah :\
[08:00] <XandriX-> poor bionic
[08:00] <green-> saveas: how do you figure?
[08:00] <ivanox> anyone tried Firefox 1.1 ?
[08:01] <Danar> it's not out yet
[08:01] <Seveas> green-, linux-source version numbers aren't equal to linux-image version numbers
[08:01] <Amaranth> ivanox: You mean Dear Park Alpha 1?
[08:01] <ivanox> well, I'm talking about the alpha :)
[08:01] <ivanox> Amaranth, yeah
[08:01] <Danar> it's for devs
[08:01] <ivanox> ok :S
[08:01] <Amaranth> yeah, what he said
[08:01] <green-> seveas: well, i'm just wondering what linux source the kernel on hoary is based on.. and which linux source i need to install so i can build packages that require it
[08:01] <Danar> but it'll be an improvement :)
[08:01] <XandriX-> almost done installing on the p2 started 10 minutes ago
[08:01] <Amaranth> none of your extensions or themes will work with it
[08:02] <Danar> svg support & all
[08:02] <HappyFool> green-: linux-headers-386 is probably what you want
[08:02] <Danar> some might
[08:02] <Seveas> green-, the 34.2 linux-source package
[08:02] <Amaranth> green-: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:02] <HappyFool> green-: or -686 or -k7
[08:02] <Amaranth> make sure you use backticks
[08:02] <Seveas> and yeah, for kernel modules linux-headers-$(uname -r) is enough
[08:02] <Danar> extensionsmirr.nl people will tweak 'em & get 'em working
[08:02] <XandriX-> Seveas: apt-get -i dev-essentials fore the development essentials right ?
[08:02] <chrissturm> xandrix: build-essential
[08:02] <Seveas> XandriX, build-essential manpages-dev
[08:03] <XandriX-> a pl
[08:03] <XandriX-> *ok
[08:03] <bleh321> this is weird Vmware is not giving me an option to use an IDE hard drive, although Windows under Vmware is using ide
[08:04] <dacrepair> seveas: ok i installed my wireless card but it was not detected
[08:04] <XandriX-> bleh321: ur not lookign corectly lol if windows is running under ide its czu u have that option when u create a virtual macine and only whenu create one
[08:05] <bleh321> well i can delete the scsi drive and add an ide one after the vmware installation wizard finishes but the wizard adds a scsi drive without asking me when i select "install other linux"
[08:05] <Andlinux21> anyone using openbox as their window manager
[08:05] <dacrepair> seveas: and its a prizm card
[08:05] <Karlos> hmm
[08:05] <Karlos> hmm
[08:06] <Andlinux21> Karlos hmm
[08:06] <XandriX-> hmm
[08:06] <XandriX-> lol
[08:06] <Andlinux21> XandriX how are you
[08:06] <dacrepair> andlinux21:karlos:hmmmm
[08:06] <Andlinux21> dacrepair: lol
[08:07] <dacrepair> does any one know how to configure a wireless card
[08:07] <bleh321> if i select in vmware "install windows" then i get an ide hard drive by default
[08:07] <larsbars> hi! new debian convert here... Q: how make the screen stop locking when i close my laptop's lid?
[08:07] <dacrepair> lol
[08:07] <Danar> why would gparted and qtparted be able to see partitions hdb1-4, but /dev only has /dev/hdb3 (swap) ?
[08:07] <Andlinux21> is there a way to switch window managers without having to reboot i am installing xfce4 and want to switch from gnome
[08:07] <XandriX-> well not anymore lol
[08:08] <Seveas> Andlinux21, just logout...
[08:08] <Seveas> and choose xfce in the login screen
[08:08] <aaron> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:08] <Andlinux21> Seveas all my current windows will close correct
[08:08] <Seveas> correct
[08:09] <dacrepair> Does anyone know how to configure a wireless card? its a prizm card
[08:09] <Seveas> dacrepair, isn't it detected at all?
[08:09] <Karlos> dacrepair, see #kanotix
[08:09] <dacrepair> k
[08:09] <Andlinux21> dacrepair: nope I had my nephew do it
[08:09] <XandriX-> dacrepair: um google
[08:09] <dacrepair> i googled already
[08:09] <aaron> dacrepair, ndiswrapper
[08:09] <XandriX-> a ok then sry
[08:09] <dacrepair> k
[08:10] <Danar> something gparted did made partitions hdb1, hdb2 & hdb4 disappear from /dev, but gparted still sees them. what's going on?
[08:10] <XandriX-> uhh stalled at testing network repository ...
[08:11] <XandriX-> ok no it jsut unstalled yay
[08:11] <lsuactiafner> is there a util other than iptables to estimate the average number of outgoing syn connections over a period of time?
[08:12] <lsuactiafner> netstat -s is not very effective for what i want to do
[08:13] <rebar> Anyone not using X86 here?
[08:13] <lsuactiafner> XandriX- : this is a p166 42mb ram
[08:13] <daniel^> hrm, 260
[08:13] <XandriX-> Danar: lets start a p2 club
[08:13] <XandriX-> daniel^: sry you lets start a p2 club
[08:13] <daniel^> :)
[08:13] <nalioth> can anyone recommend a mobo for a dual-AMD64 (with dual-cores) box?
[08:14] <XandriX-> nalioth: asus ones
[08:14] <rebar> nalioth: look on newegg; lots of reviews for that kind of thing
[08:14] <bleh321> one question, can i use one network card under vmware and have it use two diffirent ip adresses assigned by my router, one for ubuntu and one for windows ?  or do i have to make ubuntu wich will be running on vmware access the net through the host computer ?
[08:14] <lsuactiafner> asus rocks
[08:14] <nalioth> XandriX-: do they use nforce chipsets?
[08:14] <aaron> nalioth: ASUS or Microstar
[08:14] <XandriX-> nalioth: only
[08:14] <XandriX-> lsuactiafner: yeah they do
[08:15] <Bramme> Windows XP is on hda5, this is my menu.lst: http://extraball.sunsite.dk/notepad.php?ID=8106 , what's wrong ? i get Error 12 : Wrong device requested ?
[08:15] <lsuactiafner> nforce rocks.. nvidia graphics support is outstandin
[08:15] <XandriX-> yerah
[08:15] <XandriX-> and amd power owns
[08:16] <HappyFool> Bramme: i'm not sure, but i think extended partitions might complicate the numbering
[08:16] <Bramme> HappyFool, how do i solve the problem ?
[08:16] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: so why am i hearing all this nforce incompatibility whinin in #ubuntu?
[08:16] <HappyFool> Bramme: hmm, sorry, looks like i'm wrong
[08:16] <Andlinux21> brb I have to logout
[08:16] <Seveas> Bramme, if you're sure it's on /dev/hda5 then nothing is wrong
[08:16] <Bramme> :s
[08:17] <HappyFool> i have /dev/hda6 which is (hd0,5) in my menu.lst
[08:17] <Seveas> Bramme, can you post the output of sudo fdisk -l too
[08:17] <Bramme> there must be something wrong, i can't boot :p
[08:17] <fabio> ciao
[08:17] <Bramme> Seveas, no output
[08:17] <rebar> Anyone here running Ubuntu on PPC or AMD64?   I can't make "skyrocket" screensaver work on either.
[08:17] <HappyFool> sudo fdisk -l
[08:17] <aaron> Brame: of course there is something wrong- it's Windows.  :)
[08:17] <Bramme> aaron, lol
[08:17] <nalioth> rebar: i run PPC
[08:17] <Bramme> i need it for recording
[08:18] <kbs> how to solve this: Xorg -configure saying Missing output drivers. Configuration failed.?
[08:18] <Bramme> Seveas, HappyFool : http://extraball.sunsite.dk/notepad.php?ID=8108
[08:18] <Bramme> output of fdisk -l
[08:18] <rebar> nalioth:  do the screensavers work for you?  On that one "skyrocket" I just get blank screen.  Others work kindof, but you can tell they aren't right...
[08:19] <u19809> after modifying menu.lst for grub, like lilo, should I run grub ?
[08:19] <nalioth> rebar: there are lots of things that don't "work" and i end up compiling them myself
[08:19] <HappyFool> u19809: no
[08:19] <Seveas> Bramme, what's on /dev/hda2?
[08:19] <Bramme> windows installer made a mess of it
[08:19] <u19809> happyfool : how does grub update itself then ?
[08:19] <nalioth> rebar: i don't run a screensaver since i'm on a iBook, i have the monitor shut off after 5 minutes
[08:19] <Bramme> Seveas, a FAT32 partition with backups
[08:19] <HappyFool> u19809: it reads the menu.lst file
[08:20] <HappyFool> u19809: grub can read ext3 (and other partitions)
[08:20] <Seveas> Bramme, then your menu.lst is ok...
[08:20] <Seveas> Bramme, try experimenting in the grub console on boot
[08:20] <u19809> happyfool : ah, it it knows where its config file is ... is that built in ?
[08:20] <Seveas> or maybe try rootnoverify instead of root
[08:21] <HappyFool> u19809: i think the location of the menu.lst file (or the grub directory) is written to the boot record
[08:21] <HappyFool> u19809: not sure -- read 'info grub' for more ;)
[08:21] <Seveas> u19809, correct
[08:21] <Seveas> it's being built in when running grub-install
[08:21] <Seveas> that's why proc and /boot should be mounted when running grub-install :)
[08:22] <rebar> nalioth: OK, thanks for the report.  That's a cool screensaver and I wish it worked.   It locks up my amd64 system hard.
[08:22] <u19809> seveas : so as long as /boot/grub remains where it is then grub autodetects ...
[08:22] <skel__> I got a question... In my Application my Gnome desktop i see Debian and i can like search all through it... why is that?
[08:22] <Seveas> yes
[08:22] <Seveas> skel__, you must have installed a bad package
[08:22] <skel__> damm
[08:22] <Seveas> you can remove the menu again with smeg
[08:22] <skel__> can i fix that
[08:22] <buzzle> hello
[08:23] <skel__> how do i isntall that
[08:23] <Seveas> skel__, see www.realistanew.com
[08:23] <skel__> i cant find it on Apt get
[08:23] <green-> man, one issue after another.. trying to build these alsa packages.. wants curses/ncurses but libncurses5, ncurses-base, bin, term etc.. all installed..
[08:23] <Seveas> green-, try libncurses5-dev
[08:23] <green-> ah, yah.. gotta get used to .deb pkg management again.. been awhile :D
[08:23] <skel__> icky its opening up Knquor instae dof firefox
[08:23] <Seveas> :)
[08:23] <buzzle> having trouble connecting to my lan via wireless, suggestions?
[08:23] <green-> thanks
[08:24] <Seveas> buzzle, no
[08:24] <daniel^> buzzle: be more specific
[08:24] <Seveas> not until you give info that is...
[08:24] <buzzle> linksys wireless card
[08:24] <buzzle> what would you like me to tell you
[08:24] <Seveas> buzzle, you need to use ndiswrapper for that
[08:24] <squinn> yes
[08:24] <jbroome> a/b/g?
[08:24] <Seveas> search the wiki for ndiswrapper
[08:24] <buzzle> i couldnt find a faq on just the basic set up
[08:24] <buzzle> ok
[08:24] <buzzle> thank you
[08:25] <skel__> i think KDe and ghonme have mixed
[08:25] <skel__> its weird
[08:25] <XandriX-> AMDXP: fellow amd user
[08:26] <AMDXP> yup how are you
[08:26] <XandriX-> great you ?
[08:27] <XandriX-> AMDXP: great you ?
[08:27] <AMDXP> i am fine thanks
[08:28] <AMDXP> sorry was trying to configure my xfce4
[08:28] <XandriX-> AMDXP: oooo xfce
[08:28] <askinif> does adding gnue-appserver help with updating cnucash???
[08:28] <XandriX-> AMDXP: i prefer gnome o kde or fluxbox
[08:28] <AMDXP> i have a old 233
[08:28] <AMDXP> lappy
[08:29] <AMDXP> i like xfce4 and openbox
[08:29] <XandriX-> AMDXP: ship it over here lol i want tha tlappy lol
[08:30] <XandriX-> ok brb
[08:31] <XandriX-> warty: change your nick to hoary lol
[08:33] <green-> okay now onto alsa.. maybe you guys can keep bailing me out :) .. ran alsaconf and it said i'm good to go, but still no sound and mixers/volume control cant find it either
[08:33] <sens> Can anyone help me download and set up cadega?
[08:34] <^thehatsrule^> dpkg -i path/to/cedega.deb
[08:35] <sens> yeah but i can't find asnywhere to download it from
[08:37] <HappyFool> sens: i thought cedega was pay-ware?
[08:38] <Seveas> it is
[08:38] <sens> HappyFool, I wouldn't know, it would appear that way though. If wine-X pay ware?
[08:38] <^thehatsrule^> cedega = new name for wine-x
[08:39] <^thehatsrule^> youd have to buy it
[08:39] <sens> the whole idea of moving to linux was so that i didn't have to warez stuff
[08:39] <AMDXP> wow i am loving these transparent windows
[08:40] <tvelocity> sens, what do you want to run with cedega?
[08:40] <chrissturm> sens: cedega is very cheap
[08:40] <^thehatsrule^> sens: lol... cedega just has a nice gui for it.. you can just use wine+dxd9 patches
[08:40] <Addius> buying=!warez?
[08:41] <chrissturm> ^thehatsrule^, cedega has a lot of more patches
[08:41] <sens> tvelocity: my games from my windows partition
[08:41] <Amaranth> cedega has support for copy-protected games
[08:41] <chrissturm> sens: so you still want to use warez?
[08:41] <tvelocity> which games? some run on wine too
[08:41] <sens> chrissturm: not for an unemplyed 15 year old it's not
[08:41] <netuser> Hello
[08:42] <sens> chrissturm: no I came to linux because I figured everything would be free as the people are nicer.
[08:42] <HappyFool> sens: i boot windows to play games; seems easiest
[08:42] <netuser> Is there anybody here willing to help someone?
[08:42] <AMDXP> netuser with what
[08:42] <HappyFool> netuser: maybe. ask a specific question ;)
[08:42] <netuser> AMDXP: Sound
[08:42] <sens> HappyFool: yes so do I, but it's alot of hassle, just to play a game when I could play it in linux and not even need windows.
[08:42] <netuser> And Happyfool :)
[08:42] <AMDXP> netuser: I am working on sound right now too
[08:43] <AMDXP> i dont have it on my lappy =(
[08:43] <Seveas> netuser, that still isn't a specific question..
[08:43] <netuser> Everything else works perfectly (well I have messed up windoze but it dosen't matter) but there is absoutley no sound.
[08:43] <chrissturm> sens: its only 5 usd per month. and you can also build it from cvs for free
[08:43] <^thehatsrule^> chrissturm: sure, but i mean its still very playable not using cedega, specifically :P
[08:43] <netuser> Well exept sometimes it bleeps
[08:43] <frank__> I am trying to get qwest dsl web to work on ubuntu, and irc seems to work but it wont let me browse the web
[08:44] <sens> chrissturm: too late I'm downloading it now, they ont need my money
[08:44] <netuser> But through the PC speaker, not through my speakers
[08:44] <AMDXP> i dont even see sound  when i do a lspci
[08:44] <AMDXP> i mean i dont see my sound card when i do that
[08:44] <netuser> @frank__: Try using it through a differient port? Just a guess.
[08:45] <HappyFool> frank__: what error do you get? how are browsing?
[08:46] <Whistler> how do i install ati radeon drivers?
[08:46] <sens> whistler: with great difficulty
[08:46] <HappyFool> !BinaryDriver
[08:46] <ubotu> HappyFool: No idea
[08:46] <frank__> it just doesnt load, but i don't have any errors
[08:46] <Whistler> i know but i need them
[08:46] <Whistler> =] 
[08:47] <cyphase> hey everyone
[08:47] <AMDXP> brb going to check the forums
[08:47] <HappyFool> Whistler: try here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:47] <sens> Whistler: I got mine done today, but someone did the majority of it for me, i'll sned you a linkt hat might help
[08:47] <sens> Whistler: http://81.178.46.38/howto.php
[08:48] <sens> Whistler: I sent him my xorg.conf and he did something to them, I think he just changed a tiny bit, I did find a tutorial on what to do for that as well, but i'll be damned if i can find it again
[08:48] <HappyFool> netuser: can you try 'lspci|grep audio' to see if your sound card is detected?
[08:48] <sens> How would I install a .rpm?
[08:48] <action09> hi i installed snort & acidlab from Ubuntu Hoary, can"t get acidlab working :( what di i have to do? install mysql, create database and all ?
[08:48] <^thehatsrule^> use alien to convert it
[08:49] <action09> please help i'm lost :(
[08:49] <Whistler> sens so what do i need to change in my xorg?
[08:49] <AMDXP> HappyFool: it didnt see the soundcard
[08:49] <HappyFool> action09: if you don't get any response here, try installing acidlab-doc and read the manual
[08:50] <action09> sens  on Debian rpm was a package, try apt-get install rpm.. b
[08:50] <action09> HappyFool  ok thx it's a recommended package also :)
[08:50] <Seveas> sens, you need alien to convert it to a .deb file
[08:50] <AMDXP> brb
[08:51] <sens> seveas: I think I'll just abandon and try another day, thanks anyway
[08:51] <sens> Whistler: Open your xorg.conf and make a backup of it then scroll down to where it says Section Device
[08:53] <sens> Whistler, you done that? Need to be quick, my dad's nagging me to get off
[08:54] <Whistler> srry not yet
[08:54] <Whistler> write i will read
[08:54] <sens> no, you need to edit your xorg.conf first
[08:55] <sens> it only takes a little while
[08:55] <Whistler> Download the latest ATI drivers:
[08:55] <green-> hmm sound doesn't kick in till volumen is almost at top
[08:55] <sens> hold up a second, you need to do this in the correct order
[08:55] <green-> never gets loud enough
[08:56] <sens> whistler: wait up
[08:56] <Seveas> green-, try gnome-volume-control :)
[08:56] <Whistler> ?
[08:57] <green-> seveas: that's what i'm using.. alsa-mixer gives same results..
[08:57] <sens> Whistler: Open your xorg.conf open up a root terminal, type in your root password, then type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:58] <sens> Whistler, done that?
[08:58] <Whistler> yep
[08:58] <Seveas> sens, please get some clue: root terminal wants *your* password, not a root pass and you don't need sudo in a root terminal...
[08:58] <sens> Whistler, scroll down to where it says 'section "device"
[08:59] <Whistler> done
[08:59] <green-> Seveas: it's like the default volume is too low or something.. it gets loud enough for me to hear here in a quiet room.. but i can tell the speakers can get WAY louder
[08:59] <sens> Sebeas: sorry i'm a linux n00b, but my way will work too so I don't see too much problem
[08:59] <txero33> does anyone have a problem finding programs after they install them?
[08:59] <Whistler> whats next?
[08:59] <sens> seveas: ^what i said asbove, i spelt your name wrong
[08:59] <Seveas> green-, any hardware buttons on your machine or something..?
[08:59] <bleh321> how long should this installation take ? ubuntu has beensetting up packages for 40 minutes
[08:59] <sens> Whistler: what does it say after Driver?
[09:00] <Whistler> Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9600 (RV350 AP)"
[09:00] <Whistler> and?
[09:00] <sens> Whistler, ypu thats correct, the line below it though
[09:00] <txero33> does anyone have a problem finding and running programs after they install them
[09:00] <bl4cktone> how do I uninstall mplayer?
[09:00] <txero33> apt-get remove mplayer
[09:00] <txero33> in the root menu
[09:00] <Whistler> bl4cktone sudo apt-get install mplayer
[09:00] <Whistler> uh
[09:00] <Whistler> unistal
[09:00] <Whistler> :D
[09:00] <txero33> ^_^
[09:01] <Whistler> i thouth install
[09:01] <Seveas> sudo aptitude purge mplayer
[09:01] <Whistler> =] 
[09:01] <HappyFool> txero33: if you know the package main, you can use 'dpkg -L <packagename>'
[09:01] <sens> Whistler: ?
[09:01] <Whistler> ection "Device"
[09:01] <Whistler> 	Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9600 (RV350 AP)"
[09:01] <Whistler> 	Driver		"ati"
[09:01] <Whistler> 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[09:01] <sens> Change the "ati" to "fglrx"
[09:02] <txero33> HappyFool, what is dpkg?
[09:02] <txero33> HappyFool, hpw do i find out the package main
[09:02] <HappyFool> txero33: debian package management application
[09:02] <bl4cktone> alright it's gone xing seems much better
[09:02] <HappyFool> txero33: i don't understand that question, sorry
[09:02] <sens> Whistler: done that?
[09:02] <HappyFool> txero33: 'main' is a collection of packages
[09:02] <Danar> something gparted did made partitions hdb1, hdb2 & hdb4 disappear from /dev, but gparted still sees them. can anyone help?
[09:02] <Trixsey> Anyone know a good drag-and-drop FTP client?
[09:02] <Whistler> yep
[09:03] <Whistler> done
[09:03] <SirGir> gftp?
[09:03] <Razor-X> anyone here use eterm?
[09:03] <SirGir> Razor-X, yeah, used to
[09:03] <Seveas> Trixsey, nautilus :)
[09:03] <bl4cktone> razor-x at it again eh?
[09:03] <sens> Whistler: now just follow the instructions on that site I sent you, after you've saved the new xorg.conf
[09:03] <drmodding> somebody can help me with the audio of quake III? i use the echo "quake3.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss like root but when the batle begins the game frezee and i need restart x
[09:03] <Razor-X> bl4cktone: yes
[09:03] <sens> Whistler: actually hang on
[09:03] <Seveas> Trixsey, places -> connect to server
[09:03] <Razor-X> SirGir: OMG
[09:03] <txero33> HappyFool, well maybe if i tell u my exaclt problem u can help more
[09:03] <Razor-X> is it possible to use ttf console fonts withe eterm?
[09:03] <HappyFool> txero33: ok
[09:03] <txero33> HappyFool, used apt-get to install a game and now i have no idea where to find it
[09:03] <sysrq> Razor-X: no
[09:03] <Whistler> ok thx
[09:04] <Whistler> ?
[09:04] <HappyFool> txero33: which game?
[09:04] <Razor-X> sysrq: damn
[09:04] <sens> Whistler: you need to save it as something else save it in your home directory or somewhere
[09:04] <SirGir> Razor-X, don't think so
[09:04] <txero33> HappyFool, arkrpg
[09:04] <Whistler> sens i made a backup
[09:04] <Danar> txero33, try running that
[09:04] <sens> Whistler: tell me how it goes
[09:04] <sens> Whislter: ok
[09:04] <Razor-X> maybe i'll switch terms then....
[09:04] <SirGir> I got som strange rendering problems in Eterm =/
[09:04] <txero33> Danar, i went to run application arkrpg and nothing happened
[09:04] <HappyFool> txero33: if Danar's suggestion doesn't work, type 'dpkg -L arkrpg|grep /usr/bin'
[09:04] <green-> oh boy.. part of the volume issue (maybe all of it) is that my rear speakers are not working.. sound drivers dont even seem to identify them
[09:04] <green-> great
[09:04] <txero33> HappyFool, into the terminal?
[09:05] <HappyFool> txero33: and if *that* doesn't work, type 'dpkg -L arkrpg' and paste the output to a pastebin
[09:05] <Razor-X> is it possible to increase the eterm font size without increasing the term size?
[09:05] <HappyFool> txero33: indeed
[09:05] <sens> Whistler: it working?
[09:05] <Whistler> i am downloading
[09:05] <Whistler> driver
[09:05] <HappyFool> txero33: you can use this to show me lots of output: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:05] <SirGir> Razor-X, sorry, cant help you.. nerver tried
[09:05] <sens> Whistler: ok
[09:06] <Razor-X> SirGir: you read those miniscule fonts?
[09:06] <SirGir> Eterm --help?
[09:06] <sens> Whistler: tell me how it goes as soon as possible my dad really wants me off the computer :P
[09:06] <SirGir> yeah
[09:06] <Whistler> ok
[09:06] <Whistler> =] 
[09:06] <Razor-X> nopes, i've perused the Eterm manpage
[09:06] <Danar> txero33, try running it from a terminal window instead...
[09:07] <Danar> txero33, that way at least if there's an error you can see it
[09:07] <txero33> HappyFool, ok i tpyed what u said
[09:07] <Trixsey> Seveas, woah its nice :D
[09:07] <HappyFool> txero33: did you see any output?
[09:07] <Seveas> Trixsey, what is nice?
[09:07] <Trixsey> Nautilus
[09:07] <Danar> txero33, since nothing happened, it may have tried to run, but exited with an error, since it didn't say it wasn't found
[09:07] <txero33> HappyFool, it told me /usr/bin/arkclient
[09:07] <Whistler> sens driver are 35 mb
[09:07] <Whistler> =[
[09:07] <HappyFool> txero33: ok, now try 'arkclient'
[09:07] <sens> Whistler: what connection you on?
[09:08] <Danar> txero33, then run arkclient
[09:08] <Whistler> slow
[09:08] <Whistler> =] 
[09:08] <Razor-X> sysrq: is it possible to increase font size in eterm without increasing terminal size?
[09:08] <Whistler> ~144
[09:08] <Whistler> :D
[09:08] <Whistler> so it will take a while
[09:08] <Whistler> =] 
[09:08] <txero33> HappyFool, well either my laptop is slow or nothing happened
[09:08] <sens> Whistler: how much has it done already?
[09:08] <Whistler> 3%
[09:08] <Whistler> =] 
[09:08] <erb> hello
[09:08] <HappyFool> txero33: i recommend reading the documentation for this program
[09:09] <txero33> HappyFool, i ran it in a terminal it popped up then closed again
[09:09] <HappyFool> txero33: take a look in /usr/share/doc/arkrpg
[09:09] <sens> Whistler: Ah, well i'll leave the computer, that way dad can't get annoyed at me. Just start a seperate chat window with me and tell me in there when it's finished
[09:09] <HappyFool> txero33: perhaps you need to tell it to use a server, or something
[09:09] <Shish> Razor-X: I'd think terminal size is set as font width * 80 x font height * 25 -- if you want bigger font with the same zie, you'd need to increase the font then shrink the window
[09:09] <Danar> txero33, in a terminal, try 'man arkclient'
[09:10] <Razor-X> Shish: thanks a shitload, i'll use that formula
[09:10] <Danar> txero33, or 'arkclient --help'
[09:11] <SirGir> Razor-X, you'r not using Ubuntu-AMD64 are you?
[09:11] <Razor-X> SirGir: nopes
[09:11] <cody> Hello
[09:12] <nalioth> Razor-X: are you in here stirring up trouble?
[09:12] <txero33> Danar,  ahh the help one sheds some light
[09:12] <Codeman7> In Ubuntu 5.04, my laptop's screen freezes for a second every minute or so. It's just momentarily unresponsive. Any ideas?
[09:12] <SirGir> okey. damn, I got this strange problem in Eterm in Hoary-ADM64... =/
[09:12] <Trixsey> It feels like something is limiting the full capacity of my system (Lack of drivers?) When I drag my mouse around marking things randomly in the desktop it laags even... I have the latest ATI drivers for my card
[09:12] <SirGir> AMD*
[09:13] <Razor-X> nalioth: getting emotional over Eterm
[09:13] <txero33> Danar, i almost want to give up games aren't worth this much haslte
[09:13] <drmodding> somebody can help me with the audio of quake III? i use the echo "quake3.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss like root but when the batle begins the game frezee and i need restart x
[09:13] <txero33> Danar, its just telling me that files are missing
[09:14] <nalioth> Razor-X: well calm down
[09:14] <txero33> Danar, sounds like a pain :)
[09:14] <nalioth> Razor-X: your brainwaves are bothering the local fauna and flora
[09:14] <Razor-X> nalioth: I couldn't _sleep_ over eterm
[09:14] <Razor-X> now, just one little nag, and i'm done configuring it
[09:15] <Codeman7> In Ubuntu 5.04, my laptop's screen freezes for a second every minute or so. It's just momentarily unresponsive. Any ideas? Also, already checked, no high CPU processes, DMA is on, and it always happens... not related to HD or anything
[09:15] <Danar> txero33, well, you will need to learn some things to make the most of your pc, but you only need learn them once...
[09:16] <Danar> txero33, are you sure there's missing files?
[09:16] <txero33> Danar, it said that it couldn't find the config file
[09:16] <txero33> Danar,  im sure theres somthing wrong on my part
[09:17] <SirGir> Anyone? http://img37.echo.cx/img37/7755/screenshoteterm0920pi.png
[09:17] <refuze2looze> txero33: what are you trying to install
[09:17] <ivanox> anyone knows what this means in German "fog" ?
[09:17] <txero33> refuze2looze, arkrpg
[09:17] <Danar> txero33, ah, according to this: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/games/arkrpg it's not a game in itself, but something  you make games with
[09:17] <refuze2looze> ivanox: there are german -> english translators on the web
[09:17] <_kevin> I downloaded a .deb file
[09:17] <_kevin> how do i install it
[09:17] <ivanox> yeah I know
[09:18] <ivanox> but its doesnt know that word
[09:18] <Razor-X> misa likes this!
[09:18] <refuze2looze> _kevin: sudo dpkg -i packagename
[09:18] <Codeman7> Please, anyone? I would really like to use Ubuntu, but I can't at this rate.
[09:18] <Danar> txero33, it's for making rpg games. so if you want to use it to play games,  you'd need to get a game designed for it that someone's already made. or make your own
[09:18] <_kevin> ok
[09:18] <Trixsey> It feels like something is limiting the full capacity of my system (Lack of drivers?) When I drag my mouse around marking things randomly in the desktop it laags even... I have the latest ATI drivers for my card :-( Seveas, since you seem like a pro h4x0r... think you can help me? :(
[09:18] <Danar> txero33, that would be what you're missing
[09:18] <refuze2looze> Codeman7: it's a very strange problem. are you using the correct video drivers?
[09:19] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: Yeah
[09:19] <refuze2looze> Codeman7, which ones?
[09:19] <quam> anyone have any suggestions for a list of commonly used packages that most people use but aren't normally installed with ubuntu?
[09:19] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: it's not that slow of a laptop either, it's a Dell 1.13GHz P3 with an nvidia GeForce2 Go... I used it with the default driver (nv) and also am now using the nvidia drivers. No change.
[09:19] <Razor-X> I think, I will use this henceforth, thanks everyone for helping me get eterm setup
[09:19] <HappyFool> txero33: at a guess, try installing arkhart -- it's apparently a 'world' for arkrpg
[09:19] <txero33> Danar, OH! haha ok
[09:19] <txero33> HappyFool, that might work
[09:19] <SirGir> Razor-X, You havn't seen this prob before? http://img37.echo.cx/img37/7755/screenshoteterm0920pi.png
[09:19] <refuze2looze> Codeman7, let me think for a minute what it can be
[09:20] <HappyFool> txero33: otherwise, try a different game. there are lots available
[09:20] <nalioth> quam: different people commonly use different stuff
[09:20] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: Ok, I don't know if this narrows anything down, but it does it when I'm using synergy, which basically controls the mouse and keyboard over the network, as well.
[09:20] <nalioth> quam do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[09:20] <txero33> HappyFool, yeah when i think of linux games was not anywhere near my mind at that time
[09:20] <Trixsey> Guys! Is it a bad thing to login through the root account automatically? Linux is all about security.. but who would hack a private person with useless stuff on the com? :p
[09:20] <txero33> HappyFool, theres a lot of games though
[09:20] <refuze2looze> Codeman7, did you try lowering your refresh rate?
[09:21] <quam> nalioth: :P well, there are applications that are used by quite a few people. i have everything i need right now, but i want to try and get whatever im likely to use in the future, whether i know i need it right now or not :P
[09:21] <HappyFool> Trixsey: if you are root you can easily break your computer by accident
[09:21] <quam> if that makes sense
[09:21] <Razor-X> SirGir: hmmmm....
[09:21] <Razor-X> SirGir: what font were you using?
[09:21] <refuze2looze> Codeman7, ah, so it doesn't always happen? only when using synergy?
[09:21] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: No, it ALWAYS does it.
[09:21] <quam> nalioth: yeah, i have uncommented the universe/multiverse stuff in the sources file
[09:21] <Razor-X> try running Eterm again, with Eterm -F fixed
[09:21] <SirGir> Razor-X, default Eterm font..
[09:21] <Trixsey> HappyFool :o Would you give an example of what I could accidently do? :p
[09:21] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: Just so you know it's not an input problem
[09:21] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: Also, machine works fine on XP and Fedora, so no hardware problem I don't imagine
[09:21] <HappyFool> Trixsey: typing 'rm -rf *' while in the root directory
[09:21] <nalioth> quam: it takes more then uncommenting, you have to add some text
[09:22] <Danar> well, there are linux games: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+games
[09:22] <HappyFool> Trixsey: erasing a kernel image
[09:22] <refuze2looze> Codeman7, does it *lag* or does the screen just freeze for a second? can you tell?
[09:22] <Trixsey> HappyFool, I often use the root user in the terminal anyway? :P
[09:22] <Trixsey> Since my system is so limited unless I use the powerfull r00tie
[09:22] <Trixsey> :(
[09:22] <HappyFool> Trixsey: how's that?
[09:23] <Trixsey> if I ever install something through root
[09:23] <Danar> Trixsey, best practice is to never log in as root if you can help it. use sudo if you need to run commands as root, and only log in as a regular user
[09:23] <Trixsey> I'd need root access to change those files
[09:23] <quam> nalioth: what do i need to add? if it's in the ubuntu guide, lemme know, and i'll look it up
[09:23] <HappyFool> Trixsey: change what files?
[09:23] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: It doesn't seem to lag... It just stops for a second. Sometimes if I'm typing it'll actually have what i was in the middle of put there, but most of the time it just drops the letters I typed while it was "frozen"
[09:23] <HappyFool> Trixsey: if you use apt-get to install applications, they are usually available to all users
[09:23] <nalioth> quam: ubuntuguide will mess you up
[09:23] <Razor-X> SirGir: try Eterm -F fixed
[09:23] <quam> heh
[09:23] <refuze2looze> Codeman7, i would try playing a bit with the graphics settings.. lowering the refresh rate first, then try lowering the color depth, resolution, maybe even using VESA drivers. then you would know for sure whether it's a video problem or not
[09:24] <nalioth> quam: i've just spent several hours helpin a user fix theri system cuz they followed some trash inst in ubuntuguide
[09:24] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: Ok, let me give it a shot.
[09:24] <nalioth> !Restricted
[09:24] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:24] <HappyFool> Trixsey: if you are a desktop user or developer, as opposed to a system administrator, you should not need to be root often
[09:24] <nalioth> quam: see what ubotu said re restricted
[09:24] <refuze2looze> Codeman7, if it drops the letters while it was frozen it probably isn't a video problem.. maybe give it a shot anyways
[09:24] <txero33> HappyFool,  installing arkhart fixed it thank you all for helping me
[09:24] <Whistler> !help
[09:24] <refuze2looze> Codeman7, also maybe disabling esd to see if it's a sound problem
[09:24] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: Well, it's already at 60Hz
[09:24] <HappyFool> txero33: happy hunting kobolds
[09:25] <SirGir> Razor-X, well, some of it was fixed now! But the curser is still this strange square..
[09:25] <refuze2looze> Codeman7, are you sure you don't have bad sectors on your HD?
[09:25] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: Ok, not sure how to disable the sound
[09:25] <Whistler> !uptime
[09:25] <quam> nalioth: yeah, well, i just reinstalled ubuntu earlier today because i had so much trash on it that i had installed that i didn't want to have to spend hours to clean up, so this time i want to do it right :P
[09:25] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: I suppose that's possible, but why wouldn't Fedora have had a problem? I also ran the Hitachi HD check and it came up with nothing
[09:25] <Nard> so why are the screen savers for ubuntu so slow and choppy
[09:26] <nalioth> quam: then stay away from ubuntuguide, backports, marillat and other wild repos
[09:26] <Razor-X> What HAPPENED
[09:26] <Razor-X> SirGir: hmmmm, that's a different thing...
[09:26] <Danar> can anyone help me with missing partitions?
[09:26] <Razor-X> my Eterm just... DIED
[09:26] <refuze2looze> Codeman7, try killall esd in terminal
[09:26] <Danar> i have 3 partitions that gparted can see, but don't show up in /dev
[09:26] <refuze2looze> Codeman7, fedora was running Gnome also?
[09:27] <SirGir> Razor-X, doh.. it's coming back.. Well, thanks anyway. Im using gnome-terminal with ProFont and i'm pretty happy with it :)
[09:27] <Danar> i was trying to resize one, and they disappeared
[09:27] <Trixsey> HappyFool, I'm watching movies and programming.. thats about it (I'm still a Linux newbo.. only had it for a week now)
[09:27] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: Yeah
[09:27] <HappyFool> Trixsey: then, in my opinion, you should rarely need to be root
[09:27] <Razor-X> SirGir: no, I can help with that
[09:27] <HappyFool> Trixsey: once your system is setup, you should rarely need to tweak it
[09:27] <SirGir> Razor-X, Okey!
[09:27] <Razor-X> my ETERM.... <Darth Vader>NOOOOOOOOOOOO</Darth Vader>
[09:27] <SirGir> heh..
[09:28] <refuze2looze> Codeman7, pretty strange. try to think what was different about your fedora setup. so your HD doesn't make noise when it freezes right?
[09:28] <Danar> :(
[09:28] <stjepan> hi
[09:28] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: Nope, most of the time I'm just typing in IRC or something, with little to no HD activity
[09:28] <stjepan> I have started EDE
[09:29] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: And killing ESD didn't help
[09:29] <stjepan> I press alt+ctrl+F6
[09:29] <stjepan> then I log in
[09:29] <Razor-X> SirGir: --app-cursor
[09:29] <Razor-X> add that in
[09:29] <stjepan> and after that I type xinit
[09:29] <stjepan> and then I type startede
[09:29] <stjepan> it is workin ok
[09:29] <stjepan> but
[09:29] <SirGir> Razor-X, nope.. still.
[09:29] <stjepan> there is terminal
[09:29] <refuze2looze> Codeman7, strange.. try switching to i686 kernel?
[09:30] <stjepan> if I close this terminal, EDE closes also
[09:30] <stjepan> because I have started EDE from that terminal
[09:30] <stjepan> how can I hide or close that terminal
[09:30] <SirGir> Razor-X, It's when I toggle transp. I get this squares..
[09:30] <stjepan> ?
[09:30] <refuze2looze> stjepan, then don't start it from the terminal
[09:30] <HappyFool> stjepan: 'man xinit'
[09:30] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: Is there a ubuntu precompiled one I can switch to or would I have to recompile it?
[09:30] <SirGir> Razor-X, and when I move the window
[09:31] <stjepan> HappyFool, what does that mean?
[09:31] <Razor-X> SirGir: have you updated your Eterm?
[09:31] <nalioth_wrkn> stjepan: when you start programs from terminal and want your terminal back, stick a & on the end of the command  i.e. "konqueror &"
[09:31] <HappyFool> stjepan: type that in the console. it will give you the documentation for xinit
[09:31] <stjepan> refuze2looze, but how should I run it?
[09:31] <Razor-X> ok poeple, i'm giving my X manager a restart, C-b stopped working, and now Eterm
[09:31] <HappyFool> stjepan: it appears you can supply a program to run; if none is given, xterm is started
[09:31] <refuze2looze> Codeman7, ofcourse. install linux-686 from synaptic and reboot
[09:31] <Trixsey> I've got another question :) Which is, in your opinion, the best desktop environment?
[09:31] <SirGir> Razor-X, Im using 0.9.2 from backports..
[09:32] <nalioth_wrkn> backports  <hisssssss>
[09:32] <HappyFool> Trixsey: are you familiar with the internet term 'holy war' ? ;)
[09:32] <refuze2looze> stjepan, you want it to start automatically when you boot up?
[09:32] <Trixsey> HappyFool  lol no :p
[09:32] <HappyFool> Trixsey: desktop environment preference is a highly emotive matter
[09:32] <stjepan> refuze2looze, no
[09:33] <stjepan> ok tnx guys
[09:33] <refuze2looze> stjepan, Applications > Run Application
[09:33] <Trixsey> HappyFool, oh.. lol
[09:33] <Razor-X> back
[09:33] <Razor-X> lemme see if it's working
[09:33] <bl4cktone> how do I get xine tied to mozilla firefox as default player?
[09:33] <stjepan> I will try that
[09:33] <Trixsey> HappyFool: which one do you prefer then?
[09:34] <HappyFool> Trixsey: the default one (gnome). mostly because it's the default.
[09:34] <Razor-X> ok, Eterm is still not working
[09:34] <AMDXP> when i do a sudo modprobe snd-es18xx it gives me a no such device error
[09:34] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: OK... I'm installing the 686 kernel now
[09:34] <Razor-X> ......... and neither is C-b
[09:34] <Razor-X> ok, restart time
[09:34] <refuze2looze> Codeman7, good luck.. dunno if it'll solve your problem. it usually gives a very slight performance increase if any
[09:35] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: It does have a hint of sense to it, though, since Fedora used 686, and I didn't have a problem. I'll be back shortly, hopefully this will work. Thanks for the help!
[09:35] <Trixsey> HappyFool,  you know any program for manipulating the GNOME environment? customization.. or whatever one could call it
[09:35] <refuze2looze> Codeman7, np
[09:35] <HappyFool> Trixsey: take a look in System -> Preferences
[09:35] <refuze2looze> too late
[09:36] <HappyFool> Trixsey: otherwise Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor
[09:36] <Trixsey> HappyFool,  I want more advanced preferences :(
[09:36] <Trixsey> oh opk
[09:36] <stjepan> I am back
[09:36] <darko__> in bash how do i do: IF "jackd" and "oss2jack" is NOT running, do stuff:
[09:36] <stjepan> startede &
[09:36] <stjepan> it doesn't work
[09:36] <refuze2looze> Trixsey, gtweakui
[09:36] <HappyFool> stjepan: have you read the xinit man pages ?
[09:36] <stjepan> there is terminal
[09:36] <HappyFool> stjepan: 'man xinit'
[09:36] <Trixsey> Seveas, when I connected to an FTP it automatically added itself to "Places" (Nautilus). How do I remove it?
[09:37] <stjepan> I should type "man xinit"
[09:37] <stjepan> ?
[09:37] <HappyFool> stjepan: yes
[09:37] <Razor-X> ok then, time to check if it works this time around
[09:37] <stjepan> oh
[09:37] <bl4cktone> need help with mplayer messing up firefox
[09:37] <stjepan> I cleared log
[09:37] <stjepan> HappyFool, can you repeat that, pls?
[09:37] <Razor-X> C-b works!
[09:38] <Razor-X> but....... Eterm doesen't -_-
[09:38] <HappyFool> stjepan: 'man xinit'
[09:38] <stjepan> oh tnx
[09:38] <stjepan> I am fool
[09:38] <stjepan> :[
[09:38] <bl4cktone> *puts lips together makes fart noises*
[09:38] <Whistler> what is wmaker?
[09:38] <HappyFool> stjepan: don't worry ;-)
[09:38] <stjepan> HappyFool, ok I'll try that
[09:39] <AMDXP> it isnt finding my soundcard for some reason
[09:39] <quam> nalioth: thanks again for the info
[09:39] <HappyFool> AMDXP: taken a look here ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[09:39] <AMDXP> HappyFool: thanks brb
[09:39] <Whistler> what is wmaker?
[09:40] <GNULinuxer> Whistler > windowmaker
[09:40] <HappyFool> Whistler: according to synaptic, it's a 'NeXTSTEP-like window manager for X'
[09:40] <Whistler> oh
[09:40] <Whistler> rhx
[09:40] <GNULinuxer> Whistler > it's a nice , lightweight desktop/ window manager
[09:40] <Whistler> thx
[09:40] <Whistler> =] 
[09:40] <bl4cktone> Blub blub blub
[09:40] <goofyheadedpunk> bl4cktone: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Don't be a jerk. ( Poke around a bit, it's in preferences->download )
[09:41] <bl4cktone> goofyheadedpunk lol Just bored
[09:41] <GNULinuxer> goofyheadedpunk > we need to be  a bit patient with newbies
[09:42] <stjepan> I am back again
[09:42] <Spug> how large should the / partition be? my hd is 40 gb
[09:42] <GNULinuxer> stazz > welcome
[09:42] <goofyheadedpunk> GNULinuxer: True.
[09:42] <refuze2looze> darko__, i think it's if [ -z $( pgrep jackd ) ] ; then
[09:42] <Whistler> i used 5gb for ubuntu and 1 gb swap
[09:42] <GNULinuxer> Spug > it depends, but 10 Gb would be safe
[09:42] <Whistler> its more than enough for me
[09:42] <stjepan> better question: How can I run program from terminal and then terminal will be hidden (or exited)?
[09:42] <goofyheadedpunk> bl4cktone: Even if you are bored don't fill the channel with gibberish. It's rude and annoying.
[09:43] <bl4cktone> goofyheadedpunk this is the part where I blow up in rage because you pointed out any form of noobness
[09:43] <GNULinuxer> stjepan > use &
[09:43] <stjepan> yeah
[09:43] <goofyheadedpunk> bl4cktone: hehe
[09:43] <GNULinuxer> stjepan > run it in the bg
[09:43] <stjepan> but it doesn't work
[09:43] <stjepan> GNULinuxer, what is bg?
[09:43] <GNULinuxer> stjepan > then say nohup program-name ... bg == background
[09:44] <Spug> how large should the swap partition be? i only have 128 mb ram
[09:44] <stjepan> what?
[09:44] <stjepan> I want to do that: startede
[09:44] <stjepan> how to hide terminal and run startede?
[09:44] <GNULinuxer> stjepan > man nohup
[09:44] <refuze2looze> Spug, it could be as big as you want.. i think usually twice the size of your RAM is cool, but more wouldn't hurt
[09:44] <bwlang> Spug: depends on how much software you want to run at the same time... for desktop stuff probably 256M is fine
[09:44] <Spug> okay, thanks
[09:44] <stjepan> GNULinuxer, and that is ...?
[09:45] <GNULinuxer> stjepan > what is that software you want to run?
[09:45] <GNULinuxer> stjepan > why not create a launcher, or use Alt+F4 ?
[09:45] <refuze2looze> stjepan, man command gives you the manual of that command (ie how to use it n stuff). so run man nohup and read it\
[09:45] <bl4cktone> goofyheadedpunk: I don't want to talk to you no more you empty headed animal trough wiper! I fart in your general direction!
[09:45] <AMDXP> man Mplayer works great
[09:45] <stjepan> EDE is Equinox Desktop Environment
[09:46] <refuze2looze> bl4cktone, what is this crap. if you're not gonna act mature get the hell out of here
[09:47] <refuze2looze> bl4cktone, people here come in for help, you can't fill up the channel with nonsense
[09:47] <Whistler> is it possible to connect mobile phone to linux?
[09:47] <narch> whistler, yes
[09:47] <Whistler> narch any tutorials?
[09:48] <narch> whistler, probably, haven't needed them tho
[09:48] <narch> most of it is self-explanatory
[09:49] <Whistler> i have motorola c650 how can i connect it?
[09:49] <narch> whistler, USB probably, serial almost definitely, bluetooth probably (assuming the C650 has bluetooth, which i suspect it does)
[09:49] <goofyheadedpunk> whistler: http://www.google.com/linux?q=motorola+c650&sourceid=mozilla-search for starters.
[09:49] <netuser> if its a cable modem try using an ethrnet cable
[09:50] <netuser> who has blueyonder broadband here?
[09:50] <Whistler> it has usb only
[09:50] <djm62> can anyone give me hints on how to get xrandr to rotate my laptop screen? I get BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) using options straight from the manpage
[09:50] <netuser> ah ok
[09:50] <narch> whistler, then try plugging the USB in
[09:50] <Whistler> nothing happens
[09:50] <ivoks> lol... wierd, uniqe, grand prix :)
[09:50] <djm62> netuser: I have blueyonder, but I just connect through the family router, so it's just normal dhcp
[09:51] <netuser> djm62: do blueyonder support linux?
[09:51] <narch> whistler, most phones use the generic serial USB profile
[09:51] <Trixsey> When I connected to an FTP it automatically added itself to "Places" (Nautilus). How do I remove it?
[09:51] <narch> whistler, so you plug the USB cable in, and you get a serial device in /dev that gives you a connection to the phone
[09:51] <djm62> netuser: I severely doubt it...but a web search will usually turn up workarounds in that sort of case
[09:52] <stjepan> hi
[09:52] <stjepan> nohup doesn't work
[09:52] <HappyFool> stjepan: does 'xinit startede' not work?
[09:52] <stjepan> when I close terminal, EDE closes also
[09:52] <netuser> djm62 ah ok, even though they use linux for their stuff like mail platofrms...
[09:52] <spiderworm> hi all, totem plays movies strangely for me, at first at correct speed, but then it slows down to a crawl, a frame a second maybe, has anybody seen this behaviour before? ubuntu 5.04 64 bit
[09:52] <narch> whislter, then you can use one of the mobile phone tools for accessing stuff on the phone, or you can use btcid (i know its called 'BlueTooth Caller ID', but it just uses a serial connection)
[09:52] <narch> whistler, btcid is a great program, if only it wasn't so ugly :)
[09:52] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: Well, no go.
[09:52] <stjepan> HappyFool, I typed xinit and after that, when
[09:52] <stjepan> X is running
[09:52] <HappyFool> stjepan: no
[09:52] <stjepan> I ran ede
[09:52] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: Do you think this coul dhave anything to do with my laptop's power scaling or wahtever?
[09:52] <djm62> netuser: yeah, the guys that do that aren't the helpdesk drones...if you had the choice, nor would you be ;)
[09:52] <HappyFool> stjepan: i don't know if it'll work but try it
[09:53] <stjepan> I should to type: xinit startede?
[09:53] <HappyFool> stjepan: in the console 'xinit startede'
[09:53] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: like right now my gnome applet says it's at 731MHz, but if I open something it goes to 1.13GHz
[09:53] <stjepan> I will try
[09:53] <HappyFool> stjepan: yes. the xinit man page is confusing, but i recommend you study it in detail
[09:53] <HappyFool> aargh
[09:53] <HappyFool> jack-in-the-box
[09:53] <jedipottsy> ARGH
[09:53] <jedipottsy> does ne1 know how to enable sound for snd_atiixp ?
[09:53] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: Yup, did something, once the processor jumped down to 731MHz again it froze.
[09:53] <netuser> djm62: id rather not be with all those noobs-to-windows: "why do i need to click start to shutdown my pc?"
[09:54] <bl4cktone> I.. I'm sorry guys I'll try not to make nonsence in here anymore.  Don't know what came over me
[09:54] <HappyFool> a perfectly good ui question
[09:54] <djm62> hey, that's crap design
[09:54] <djm62> wouldn't get past gnome HIG ;)
[09:54] <netuser> djm62it's m$hit, what do you expect:
[09:54] <jedipottsy> how do i add pci=noapci to boot?
[09:55] <netuser> neither would i, but im a win pro but lin noob
[09:55] <xeys> hello all
[09:55] <xeys> i have a question regarding live distro
[09:55] <HappyFool> jedipottsy: you can add it in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:55] <HappyFool> jedipottsy: you can also add it during boot
[09:56] <cary> pfp, you around? haha
[09:56] <xeys> is there a way to use my key drive to setup a home folder that will hold all my C files and header files and make files?
[09:56] <Codeman7> Ok, well...
[09:56] <Codeman7> Can anyone help me? On a laptop, my processor jumps down to 731MHz from 1.13GHz when I'm not doing anything intensize, and my computer freezes for a second while this happens...
[09:56] <xeys> and is there a way to install software and put it on the ketdrive?
[09:56] <bleh321> ok,. is it possible for a single network card to use two ip adresses each for diffirent oses, with vmware or do i have to route the guest os through the host
[09:57] <jedipottsy> HappyFool, where do i add it in?
[09:57] <xeys> hello?
[09:57] <Echylo> anyone can help me with finding a good dyndns.org update client? (dynamic dns)
[09:57] <guupsta> codeman7, power saving feature?
[09:57] <djm62> xeys: the key drive is just a hard drive, but you'd need to add appropriate symlinks
[09:57] <HappyFool> jedipottsy: in /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[09:57] <Codeman7> guupsta: i guess that is what it's doing, despite me being plugged in.
[09:57] <jedipottsy> HappyFool, yeah
[09:58] <djm62> xeys: also, do you really want/need this?  Is your intention to have no $HOME if you lose your keydrive/forget it/wipe it
[09:58] <stjepan> "xinit startede" doesn't work
[09:58] <stjepan> there is an error
[09:58] <jedipottsy> HappyFool, this is current boot:   title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-386
[09:58] <jedipottsy> root		(hd0,2)
[09:58] <jedipottsy> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash
[09:58] <jedipottsy> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386
[09:58] <jedipottsy> savedefault
[09:58] <jedipottsy> boot
[09:58] <stjepan> bad command line optiom "startede"
[09:58] <stjepan> :(
[09:58] <superkitty> can i upgrade Ubuntu to Debian sid or etch?
[09:58] <HappyFool> jedipottsy: please don't paste so much here
[09:58] <HappyFool> jedipottsy: you can add it to the end of the 'kernel' line
[09:58] <darko__> refuze2looze: thanks :) that worked.
[09:59] <djm62> xeys: if you insert the keydrive, it should appear on your desktop, so you can easily treat it as "blank space
[09:59] <jedipottsy> HappyFool, k thnx
[09:59] <Trixsey> HappyFool,  You know Nautilus?
[09:59] <HappyFool> jedipottsy: so 'kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash pci=noacpi'
[09:59] <stjepan> hey
[09:59] <stjepan> please help me
[09:59] <HappyFool> jedipottsy: however, this will not be preserved when you upgrade kernels
[09:59] <guupsta> Codeman7: for curiosity, is it freezing for a "long time", like couple of seconds?
[09:59] <stjepan> did you forget my problem?
[09:59] <stjepan> :)
[09:59] <HappyFool> Trixsey: not really, sorry
[09:59] <xeys> ok, thanks much. gcc should still work fine once I get it there
[09:59] <jedipottsy> HappyFool, thnx :D
[09:59] <topyli> yay! i can finally connect my phone to my ubuntu box
[10:00] <HappyFool> stjepan: try 'xinit /path/to/startede', and please read 'man xinit' carefully -- i appreciate that it is confusing
[10:00] <stjepan> ok
[10:00] <Mobius> Hello, how is everyone today?
[10:00] <djm62> xeys: you want gcc on the key? that's a bit crazy...gcc takes a lot of infrastructure as well as the main binaries:  is this something you'd be better doing with a liveCD for the OS and keydrive for files?
[10:00] <xeys> hey guys, the clamshell ibooks work well with ppc live distro
[10:00] <jedipottsy> ne1 know how to disable modem drivers?
[10:00] <xeys> no, i mean I want my source on the key
[10:00] <Codeman7> guupsta: 1-2 seconds
[10:01] <jedipottsy> i think ALSA is loading modem drivers, rather than sound drivers :S
[10:01] <djm62> jedipottsy: are they acting like soundcards?
[10:01] <Spug> how can i make musicbox play mp3s?
[10:01] <crimsun> jedipottsy: if you're using hoary, they're already deprioritised
[10:01] <djm62> jedipottsy: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa at the bottom of the file, you can see how to disable that behaviour
[10:01] <superkitty>  can i upgrade Ubuntu to Debian sid or etch?
[10:01] <guupsta> Codeman7: ok. nothing that I could help you, just wanted to know :/
[10:01] <crimsun> Spug: musicbox, the python player?
[10:01] <Spug> i dunno
[10:01] <Spug> maybe i'm mixing up
[10:02] <Spug> the default music player in ubuntu
[10:02] <Spug> the itunes-esque one
[10:02] <topyli> Spug: install gstreamer0.8-mad if you mean rhythmbox
[10:02] <Spug> ah, yes
[10:02] <Spug> that's the one
[10:02] <jedipottsy> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa - no file
[10:03] <Amaranth> rhythmbox
[10:03] <jedipottsy> cat /proc/asound/cards
[10:03] <Amaranth> wow, lag
[10:03] <jedipottsy> displays this : 1 [Modem          ] : ATIIXP-MODEM - ATI IXP Modem
[10:03] <jedipottsy>                      ATI IXP Modem rev 1 at 0xe8004800, irq 17
[10:03] <djm62> jedipottsy: alsa-base, sorry typing from memory
[10:03] <Codeman7> guupsta: Ok, Thanks :)... I'm going to check for a BIOS option to disable it while plugged in. Dunno though.
[10:03] <corp> hey
[10:04] <crimsun> jedipottsy: what's index 0? (you displayed index 1)
[10:04] <corp> anyone know how to enable video for linux?
[10:04] <ompaul> corp,  hay on the other hand is for horses :)
[10:04] <pistol> hey all, i have a libc dependecy problem, apparently i should remove marillat from the sources.list file - but what lines is this exactly?
[10:04] <pistol> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[10:04] <refuze2looze> Codeman7, sorry i was away. anyways there's the problem.. maybe you can change this in the BIOS or soething?
[10:04] <crimsun> pistol: for what, mplayer-$arch?
[10:04] <refuze2looze> or disable the power saving?
[10:04] <Codeman7> refuze2looze: Yeah, I'm going ot check that in a second, once this program is done compiling.
[10:04] <HappyFool> pistol: the line(s) with 'marillat' in it
[10:04] <refuze2looze> gotta run
[10:05] <jedipottsy> crimsun, this is at the very bottom
[10:05] <jedipottsy> crimsun, # Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0
[10:05] <jedipottsy> options snd-atiixp-modem index=-2
[10:05] <jedipottsy> options snd-bt87x index=-2
[10:05] <jedipottsy> options snd-intel8x0m index=-2
[10:05] <jedipottsy> options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2
[10:05] <HappyFool> please don't paste more than 2 lines
[10:05] <crimsun> jedipottsy: that's correct. Now show me card 0, please.
[10:05] <jedipottsy> crimsun, card 0?
[10:06] <pistol> crimsun, pretty much everything on ubuntuguide.org :(
[10:06] <crimsun> jedipottsy: yes, card 0. Look at the output of cat /proc/asound/modules
[10:06] <pistol> HappyFool, there aren't any line with marillat
[10:06] <AMDXP> HappyFool: to restart sound do i have to logout?
[10:06] <jedipottsy> 1 snd_atiixp_modem
[10:06] <crimsun> jedipottsy: paste the output of ,,lspci -v'' and ,,lsmod'' (without the quotes or commas) onto pastebin
[10:07] <HappyFool> pistol: perhaps it would be simplest if you put your /etc/apt/sources.list here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:07] <crimsun> AMDXP: no, you don't (unless you had to use the adduser command)
[10:07] <AMDXP> i didnt use the adduser
[10:07] <AMDXP> how do i restart sound
[10:07] <jedipottsy> crimsun, how do i get to pastebin?
[10:07] <pistol> HappyFool, done
[10:07] <crimsun> AMDXP: then you just need to ,,sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload''
[10:08] <costas> hello
[10:08] <crimsun> jedipottsy: see the topic paste reference
[10:08] <HappyFool> pistol: stand by
[10:08] <jedipottsy> ahh http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:08] <HappyFool> pistol: i suspect that the ftp.tux.org line is the problem
[10:08] <jedipottsy> ok
[10:09] <HappyFool> pistol: i am not a guru, but i don't think using a debian sarge repository is a good idea
[10:09] <pistol> HappyFool, thanks very much, i will try commenting that
[10:09] <pistol> HappyFool, apparently you need that for sun jre
[10:09] <AMDXP> crimsun: thanks
[10:09] <HappyFool> pistol: i think ubuntuguide.org recommends backports for these sorts of things
[10:09] <jedipottsy> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/127
[10:09] <HappyFool> pistol: for java, see wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[10:10] <pistol> HappyFool, okay, thanks again - i just installed ubuntu today so i'm a bit newbie
[10:10] <pistol> thnkas for your patience so far though :)
[10:10] <jedipottsy> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/128
[10:11] <HappyFool> pistol: i *think* Seveas usually recommends method 3 from that page
[10:11] <yhan> what is the best cdburner apps for linux ?
[10:11] <HappyFool> pistol: "Quick Sun JDK Install"
[10:12] <jedipottsy> crimsun, got any idea?
[10:12] <HappyFool> hmm, but that's the jdk, not the jre
[10:12] <yhan> I 'd like to found something similar to nero for win
[10:12] <pistol> HappyFool, ubuntuguide? i cant find "quick sun jdk install" on it
[10:12] <cary> question for whoever will answer: i had previously tried to compile a kernel and it failed and now i cant remember where the kernel that i had patched is. i need to compile it but cant find it. are kernels ready to go generally ending with .bz2 ?
[10:13] <HappyFool> pistol: no, on wiki.ubuntu.com/Java -- however, i'm not sure that that is what you want
[10:13] <cary> (come on bob2, be around!)
[10:13] <HappyFool> pistol: if ubuntuguide.org has a method, and it works, you might as well use it
[10:13] <crimsun> jedipottsy: sec, looking
[10:13] <pistol> HappyFool, :( nope - cant find sun-j2re1.5 now since i have removed tux.org
[10:14] <Echylo> slaapwel iedereen :)
[10:14] <HappyFool> pistol: check which repositories ubuntuguide.org recommends
[10:14] <stjepan> oh
[10:14] <stjepan> It works
[10:14] <HappyFool> pistol: ubuntguide has 'deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted'
[10:14] <stjepan> I typed startx
[10:14] <HappyFool> pistol: and another line
[10:15] <stjepan> it works
[10:15] <HappyFool> stjepan: great
[10:15] <stjepan> but fonts in gtk programs are larger
[10:15] <stjepan> and text in terminal is grey
[10:15] <stjepan> but it was black
[10:15] <stjepan> :(
[10:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone have any idea why teamspeak works on the kubuntu side of things and not ubuntu?
[10:15] <stjepan> that is not so great
[10:15] <stjepan> :(
[10:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> dosen't even show in the menu
[10:16] <cary> can anyone help me understand a little bit of syntax?
[10:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i know there is no diffrence between the 2 but some how it seems to be diffrent
[10:17] <HappyFool> cary: in what language?
[10:17] <crimsun> jedipottsy: are you using default ubuntu?
[10:17] <crimsun> jedipottsy: i.e., not alsa-source from hoary/universe
[10:17] <lukus001> hey, i've just found out that cause i have amd64 build of ubuntu most of the application wont work and i need to install it via chroot for 32bit... but when i run synaptic32 bit it wont let me install realplayer properly..
[10:17] <jedipottsy> default ubuntu off disc
[10:17] <cary> HappyFool, in linux. im trying to compile an ubuntu kernel and i dont knwo all the stuff on the HowTo
[10:17] <cary> HappyFool, the line is make-kpkg --initrd --stem linux --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image
[10:17] <jedipottsy> sound works fine in FC
[10:18] <cary> HappyFool, but ...?
[10:18] <HappyFool> cary: hmm, eek
[10:18] <jedipottsy> just have to go into alsamixer and enable a button
[10:18] <HappyFool> cary: but?
[10:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> brb
[10:18] <cary> HappyFool, hah. nice. ..the but is me not knowing what the hell that means
[10:18] <cary> i get the general jist
[10:18] <HappyFool> cary: that is something you need to type in a terminal window
[10:18] <crimsun> jedipottsy: you need the newer alsa-driver
[10:18] <crimsun> jedipottsy: I can walk you through the instructions
[10:18] <crimsun> jedipottsy: /join #alsa
[10:19] <HappyFool> cary: Applications -> System tools -> Terminal
[10:19] <jedipottsy> #alsa
[10:19] <cary> HappyFool, i know that. but the part where it says "kernel_image" ..do i need to replace that with the kernel imagine im trying to create?
[10:19] <HappyFool> cary: i don't think so
[10:19] <txero33> does anyone know how to view the sound settings in Ubuntu?
[10:19] <HappyFool> cary: i think make-kpkg can make different sorts of things, including module packages
[10:19] <vl0m> How do I change this lame Gnome Footprint logo on my Menu button?
[10:19] <pepsi> any suggestions on a tv tuner card?
[10:19] <crimsun> txero33: at what verbosity?
[10:19] <vl0m> I want a better icon
[10:19] <cary> HappyFool, i have already applied patches to the kernel file (which i cant find, i think) but iwas helped along by 'pfp' and so now i am a outch lost
[10:20] <crimsun> txero33: the lowest human-sensible format is the output from amixer
[10:20] <txero33> crimsun, all im trying to do is set up my sound card
[10:20] <txero33> crimsun, i think its not installed corectly
[10:20] <crimsun> txero33: what sound card?
[10:20] <HappyFool> cary: i'm afraid i don't know what the 'kernel file' is
[10:21] <txero33> crimsun,  not so sure this is a foreign computer to me
[10:21] <jedipottsy> txero33, in terminal alsamixergui
[10:21] <txero33> crimsun, its a new laptop i got
[10:21] <crimsun> txero33: ok, please paste the output from ,,lspci -v'' onto the paste web site noted in the topic
[10:21] <cary> HappyFool, well..i dont really knwo what all iam talking about. i had everything set up to compile a new kernel and i had patched the kernel source (?) and tried to compile it but there was an error at the end. im just trying to get back to whree i was.
[10:22] <HappyFool> cary: was it perhaps in /usr/src/linux-<something>' ?
[10:22] <HappyFool> cary: i presume you are doing all of this for a good reason, like unusual hardware?
[10:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> uggh this is driving me buggy
[10:23] <cary> HappyFool, i thought it was but i have tracked it down to being in ~/kernel. yeah i have a powrbook and hter eare patches i need to make it work just right. eg my sound is janked up and the temp gauge for the processor doesnt work exactly right.
[10:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone here using teamspeak?
[10:24] <HappyFool> cary: so you've found it?
[10:24] <cary> HappyFool, yeah, but now comes the fun part of figuring out what to do. ill try that comman di pasted earlier in this directory. i think the error last time was i didnt have root access. i certainly do now.
[10:25] <peterretief> hey all, how do I set up a windows printer using wine - can it be done lexmark Z612
[10:25] <HappyFool> cary: ok, good luck
[10:25] <cary> HappyFool, do you knwo about the revision flag?
[10:25] <cary> HappyFool, it is saying when i try that command that the revision listed is different than one in the debian changelog so it haulted
[10:26] <HappyFool> cary: take a look at 'man make-kpkg'
[10:26] <cary> HappyFool, oh yeah, man pages. thanks
[10:26] <pistol> HappyFool, still no joy - tried to install java again and still get the same error :( I have posted my latest sources.list in pastebin
[10:26] <CrustyPunk> Hey, I'm having a bit of a problem emptying my trash... I can't. It tells me that I don't have permission to modify the parent folder of the stuff that's in it
[10:27] <HappyFool> cary: it suggests removing the 'debian/official' file and running 'make-kpkg clean'
[10:27] <HappyFool> pistol: ok, just a mo
[10:27] <cjs> anyone know how i can control cpu throttling? ubuntu doesn't seem to be doing it on its own
[10:28] <HappyFool> pistol: you've added ftp.tug.org back
[10:28] <HappyFool> pistol: unless you mis-pasted or something
[10:28] <pistol> HappyFool, yeah - it couldn't find sun-j2re otherwise
[10:29] <quam> cjs, it's either acpi or apci, i can't remember which acronym is correct
[10:29] <kakalto> g'morning all
[10:29] <kakalto> :)
[10:29] <quam> cjs: it does all the laptop shit
[10:29] <HappyFool> pistol: did you try these: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories ?
[10:29] <pistol> HappyFool, yep
[10:29] <cjs> quam: yeah but it isnt doing it automatically
[10:29] <pistol> HappyFool, still count find it after uncommenting those lines
[10:29] <quam> do you have it setup for throttling?
[10:29] <pistol> *couldn't
[10:30] <flodine> how do i remove all kubuntu
[10:30] <quam> when i boot, the shit says that my processor is known _not_ to support throttling, yet windows does it fine :P
[10:30] <HappyFool> pistol: you added the 'ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net lines ?
[10:30] <HappyFool> pistol if that does not work, i suggest reading this page: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[10:30] <HappyFool> pistol: i have not installed java myself
[10:30] <cary> HappyFool, doing that now. good timing
[10:31] <flodine> help how do i remove all kubuntu
[10:31] <Flickie> Hi could anyone help me please?
[10:31] <HappyFool> pistol: alternatively, if you are patient, Seveas knows how to do this; he will probably be online again tomorrow
[10:31] <Flickie> cant get my speedtouch modem working :'(
[10:32] <cary> HappyFool, woohoo! i think im finally compiling again. and root this time. thanks for the help
[10:32] <HappyFool> flodine: do you want to remove all of ubuntu and kubuntu ?
[10:32] <HappyFool> cary: no problem
[10:32] <peterretief> Is it possible to set up window centric hardware using wine?
[10:32] <cjs> quam: not sure how to set it up for throttling
[10:32] <pistol> HappyFool, thank you very much again - it is installing now without complaining about libc6 versions - i didnt notice the backport lines so that seems to have fixed it for me
[10:32] <pistol> HappyFool, again - thanks for your patience with such a newbie :)
[10:32] <flodine> no just kubuntu
[10:32] <Flickie> i ned my modem working heh
[10:33] <HappyFool> pistol: ok, good. please be aware that not everyone approves of backports -- apparently it can break your system. I do not use it myself.
[10:33] <quam> cjs: neither am i, im sorry i even answered you :P blind trying to lead the blind i guess :P next time if i dont know wtf im talking about, i won't answer :P
[10:33] <pistol> HappyFool, yeah - i'm not really a big fan of java either but most apps from the starter guide gave me the libc6 dependency error so i used java as an example
[10:34] <flodine> HappyFool just want to remove Kubuntu
[10:34] <flodine> is there a way
[10:35] <HappyFool> flodine: probably, but i'm afraid i don't know what it is
[10:35] <netsniper> flodine, "sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop"
[10:35] <Flickie> anyone had probleems with speedtouch modems?
[10:35] <netsniper> :-)
[10:35] <netsniper> Anyone know how to make Xorg detect if a TV is active, and not use TV-Out if it is not plugged in?
[10:36] <netsniper> I have defined a "RightOf" screen, but I don't want my mouse to fall of the edge when the TV is not in use!
[10:36] <HeMan> Hi! Anyone else having problem with the linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 v 2.6.11.94-1.2 and suspend to ram? (Yepp, using breezy)
[10:37] <quam> cjs: check out the wiki on ubuntu.com, search for acpi and throttling. might be something there that can help
[10:37] <netsniper> HeMan, i think you should wait until Breezy is testing, in August
[10:37] <HappyFool> pistol: backports is probably ok. however, if things break mysteriously after you do an 'apt-get update', at least you know a possible reason
[10:37] <cjs> well.. powernowd reports it's aggressively monitoring the cpu power state.. but cat the throttling file and it shows no change in status
[10:37] <cjs> weird
[10:39] <HeMan> netsniper: well, yes, but 2.6.11 works fine, and i'd like to help if i can
[10:39] <Flickie> :'(
[10:43] <Flickie> when i try to run the speedtouchconf.sh it says gcc is missing
[10:43] <lpk> How can i launch a shellscript after my window manager has launched?
[10:43] <Seveas> Okay, someone said my name
[10:43] <Seveas> who is guilty?
[10:43] <UBUNTU> can someone help me how to change my nickname
[10:43] <crimsun> UBUNTU: /nick newnick
[10:43] <HappyFool> Seveas: me
[10:43] <Seveas> UBUNTU, type /nick whatyouwantasanickname
[10:43] <Seveas> HappyFool, hi :)
[10:44] <UBUNTU> tnx crimson
[10:44] <Seveas> wazzaaaaaaaaaaaap!?
[10:44] <HappyFool> Seveas: pistol is trying to install java, but he ended up using backports
[10:44] <Seveas> HappyFool, that's ok
[10:44] <HappyFool> Seveas: hi ;)
[10:44] <Seveas> java in backports is a make-jpkg deb
[10:44] <HappyFool> Seveas: i can't remember your magic method
[10:44] <HappyFool> ok, cool
[10:44] <cjs> okay so powernowd is clearly running, but i cant seem to determine what level it currently has the processor running at
[10:44] <Seveas> HappyFool: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[10:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone have any idea why a program will run in kde but not gnome?
[10:44] <Seveas> but the backports java does that
[10:44] <HappyFool> Seveas: ok, cool, i'll put that in a file somewhere ;)
[10:45] <Seveas> cjs, are you using gnome?
[10:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> even though the install is for both?
[10:45] <dunja> hello, how can i get my new ubuntu install to play m4a's form my ipod?
[10:46] <Seveas> dunja: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[10:46] <Seveas> that page explains all about that
[10:46] <cary> Seveas, hey! hows it going
[10:46] <dunja> thanks i'll check it out
[10:46] <Seveas> hey, quite well. I am writing an article, so kinda busy
[10:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's weard it's trying to run it but nothings poping up
[10:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and there are no zombie programs
[10:47] <cary> Seveas, i was just saying hey for now. good luck with the article
[10:47] <cjs> Seveas, yep.
[10:47] <Seveas> cjs rightclick on the panel, select add to panel
[10:47] <Seveas> from the list that pops up, choose "CPU Frequency monitor"
[10:48] <Seveas> from the list that pops up, choose "CPU Frequency scaling monitor"
[10:48] <heien> Hi all... anyone here?
[10:48] <pistol> heien, nope
[10:48] <pistol> heien, :)
[10:48] <Seveas> heien, no, there's absolutely no one in here
[10:48] <drigloi> only 514 of us :) hi
[10:48] <pistol> lol
[10:48] <heien> Could anyone be that kind to help me getting my Sis SI7012 on-board soundcard up'n'running?
[10:49] <cjs> seveas: you're a lifesaver
[10:49] <Seveas> i know ;)
[10:50] <ivanox> how do I create a symlink?
[10:50] <jfk303> what can play avi in ubuntu
[10:50] <Quest-Master> VLC
[10:50] <Quest-Master> MPlayer
[10:50] <Quest-Master> GXine
[10:51] <pistol> ivanox, ln -s <target> <name>
[10:51] <ivanox> thanks alot pistol  :)
[10:51] <pistol> ivanox, glad i can help with something
[10:51] <heien> Anyone who can help me fixing my sound card? :P pls
[10:51] <cjs> still eaiting my battery alive, even at 798mhz :D
[10:52] <drigloi> heien, what does "lsmod | grep snd-intel8x0" say?
[10:52] <jedipottsy> #alsa
[10:52] <pistol> heien, you may have to mute one of the IEC958 channels
[10:52] <heien> nothing drigloi
[10:52] <heien> Pistol, how?
[10:52] <HappyFool> drigloi: maybe you meant snd_ ? (all my snd modules are snd_ , not snd-)
[10:52] <Spug> is it possible to resize partitions after installing ubuntu without losing info on it? using a live cd or whatever?
[10:53] <jfk303> How can I connect to the bear share network in ubuntu?
[10:53] <drigloi> HappyFool, I looked at alsa-project.org
[10:53] <cjs> saveas: okay, now tell me how i can get thunderbird to send an echo to my mail LED and you're hired. :)
[10:53] <drigloi> HappyFool, but you're right
[10:53] <Ubuntu> cool is ubuntu it is not working so good on a celeron 466 Mhz 64 mb ram
[10:53] <pistol> heien, firstly do you get any error messages about your card or are you sure the sound modules are loaded?
[10:53] <drigloi> heien, lsmod | grep snd_intel8x0
[10:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> there is no diffrence between kde and ubuntu right?
[10:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> there one and the same?
[10:54] <pistol> heien, i'd do what what drigloi says before listening to me :)
[10:54] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, you mean between kubuntu and ubuntu :)
[10:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea
[10:54] <LinuxJones> Ubuntu, you might want to use xfce or icewm rather than gnome or kde on that old system you have.
[10:54] <Seveas> the differerence there is only a different set of packages installed by default
[10:54] <drigloi> heien, right
[10:54] <heien> drigloi, in a pm
[10:55] <heien> Pistol, ok, thx anyway :)
[10:55] <drigloi> heien, modules are correct
[10:55] <crimsun> it's a mixer setting. I've closed several bug reports about it.
[10:55] <heien> okay, great :)
[10:55] <heien> It just wont spit out any sound... :( none of the players
[10:56] <Ubuntu> ? and that is linuxjones i,m a newby on ubuntu or any kind of linux im using it as a server
[10:56] <crimsun> heien: see what I said in #alsa
[10:56] <drigloi> heien, try to play with the Volume Control under Applications/Sound and Video
[10:56] <richard> hey- when i do #iwconfig ath0 up i get an error
[10:56] <richard> pentm1700:/home/steve# iwconfig ath0 up
[10:56] <richard> Error : unrecognised wireless request "up"
[10:57] <richard> can anyone help?
[10:57] <drigloi> or with alsamixer in the Gnome-Terminal
[10:57] <richard> or is it a lost cause?
[10:57] <LinuxJones> Ubuntu, ohhh I see. I just assume that most folks run Ubuntu as a desktop machine :)
[10:57] <drigloi> heien, make sure that volume is not muted on channel Master, PCM
[10:57] <richard> pentm1700:/home/steve# iwconfig ath0 up
[10:57] <richard> Error : unrecognised wireless request "up"
[10:58] <richard> what should i do?
[10:58] <hondje> hey neat, gvm automounted my brothers lyra
[10:58] <Ubuntu> how can i use xfce icewm linuxjones
[10:58] <heien> Drigloi, all is maxed, and nothing is muted
[10:58] <Seveas> richard, ifconfig ath0 up
[10:58] <richard> d'oh!!!!
[10:58] <drigloi> heien, in alsamixer?
[10:59] <heien> drigloi, alsamixer wont open :/, i just tried the regular one in sound and video
[11:00] <LinuxJones> Ubuntu, maybe you should have a look at them first >> http://www.xfce.org is excellent and it's very easily installable in Ubuntu.
[11:00] <drigloi> heien, how do you mean "won't open"?
[11:00] <heien> drigloi, nvm, im in now :P
[11:00] <heien> master and pcm are 100%
[11:01] <drigloi> and you don't see any boxed "MM" under them?
[11:01] <heien> nop.
[11:01] <HappyFool> Ubuntu: note that window managers and so on aren't usually necessary for servers
[11:01] <drigloi> pistol, your turn :)
[11:01] <HappyFool> heien: have you joined #alsa as crimsun suggested (sorry to butt in, drigloi)
[11:02] <Ugh> it's too many :)
[11:02] <pistol> heien, try muting all "IEC958 C" channels
[11:02] <Ubuntu> tnx linuxjones i will check it now ok happyfool
[11:02] <crimsun> heien only needs to mute IEC958 and IEC958 Capture Monitor. The latter is the critical one.
[11:03] <heien> yes, now it works..thx guys :d
[11:03] <Ugh> hmm....jest jakis polak? Are you polish guy here? :] 
[11:03] <pistol> crimsun, okay - i couldnt remember which one it was :/
[11:03] <pistol> heien, rock on :)
[11:03] <[Phaedrus] > whats a good development application to use in Linux for an application that requires a pretty interface?
[11:04] <pistol> [Phaedrus] , gtk, Qt or even python - depends really
[11:04] <HappyFool> [Phaedrus] : maybe glade?
[11:05] <[Phaedrus] > wel, there is this application written in VB (I know, woe unto me!!!), that i have to convert into something else to make it run in linux
[11:05] <heien> is there a xmms script for x-chat? ;P
[11:05] <pistol> [Phaedrus] , REALbasic is your friend :)
[11:05] <[Phaedrus] > i have been looking into that pistol
[11:06] <[Phaedrus] > but i would so wish that i could deviate a bit from the bulky code environment
[11:06] <pistol> [Phaedrus] , i've never used it but apparently it is quite compatible with VB - hopefully no "goto"s are allowed though ;)
[11:06] <HappyFool> [Phaedrus] : python is a good language, imo, and it i believe it works with glade (glade is a gui designer)
[11:07] <drigloi> does anybody here has issues with the hal/dbus system in Hoary?
[11:07] <bl4cktone> Hey guys,  I can't seem to get sound comming from my flash player in firefox any ideas?
[11:07] <[Phaedrus] > HappyFool: i am all for python.. love that language.. i'll check that.. thanks
[11:07] <drigloi> I mean CDs, pendrives not automounting
[11:08] <drigloi> bl4cktone, have you checked ubuntuguide.org?
[11:08] <drigloi> bl4cktone, there's a section about sound config there
[11:08] <bl4cktone> drigloi I'll check it
[11:10] <jedipottsy> ne1 know how to get the linux touchpad to work?
[11:10] <pistol> got to go guys - thanks to all that helped
[11:11] <bl4cktone> drigloi: that would be under hardware right? think I remember something there now but having trouble finding it
[11:12] <narch> bl4cktone: what is most likely happening, is that you are running a sound daemon (esd, or artsd) and it is locking access to the sound hardware
[11:13] <drigloi> bl4cktone, http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[11:13] <narch> flashplayer and java both use oss access, and will often be blocked by esd/arts
[11:13] <bl4cktone> drigloi sweet thanks man I'm on it
[11:14] <narch> sadly, dmix doesn't always work, either :/
[11:14] <Ubuntu> linuxjones i showed the site u gave me but what type of xfce or icewm should i download?
[11:14] <drigloi> does anybody has dbus-1 issues described in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?threadid=27087?
[11:15] <drigloi> I'd like to know if there's a solution or work on it...
[11:16] <ompaul> ubuntu u using the live CD?
[11:16] <Ubuntu> no
[11:16] <Ubuntu> install
[11:17] <LinuxJones> Ubuntu, xfce is a graphical desktop manager which uses alot less system resources than say gnome or kde.
[11:17] <dunja>  is there any way to play m4a's from ipod in ubuntu? :( i tried everything
[11:17] <GNULinuxer> can anybody tell me how to use the gnome-bt client?
[11:17] <crimsun> dunja: you can use jHymn or pymusique
[11:18] <crimsun> personally jHymn is more convenient for my usage patterns
[11:18] <dunja> where can i get them? can i apt-get them from universe? apt-get install jhymn?
[11:18] <LinuxJones> dunja, dunno if this helps >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//IPodHowto
[11:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> CAN Anyone recommend a video player to use in ubuntu, which supports playing direct from dvd, as well as theora.
[11:19] <GNULinuxer> BROKEN_LADDER> MPlayer
[11:19] <arnonym> i updated my system to 2.6.12 today and now the inputs (mic, line in) of my audigy (emu10k1) soundcard are just silent. any tips?
[11:19] <GNULinuxer> arnonym> how did you update the kernel?
[11:19] <Ubuntu> LINUXJONES: ok a friend of my installed ubuntu for me and i ques he installed a littlle version
[11:20] <arnonym> GNULinuxer: i used make-kpkg
[11:20] <GNULinuxer> arnonym> aaaah
[11:20] <GNULinuxer> arnonym> i did that too
[11:20] <Ubuntu> linuxjones: because i have slow pc
[11:20] <LinuxJones> Ubuntu, he probably did a custom install for a server, which only uses console access.
[11:21] <arnonym> GNULinuxer: and do you have a audigy too?
[11:21] <GNULinuxer> arnonym> no
[11:21] <drigloi> bl4cktone, success?
[11:21] <bl4cktone> thanks for the sound help now you can play duck hunt also http://www.johnnyslack.com/duckhunt/
[11:21] <bl4cktone> lol
[11:21] <bl4cktone> all the sounds work now
[11:22] <Ubuntu> is that good linuxjones i have the learn u know?
[11:22] <drigloi> bl4cktone, well done!
[11:22] <Ubuntu> that also with the commands linuxjones
[11:23] <arnonym> GNULinuxer: why did you ask?
[11:23] <bl4cktone> drigloi I was having trouble with sound on tuxracer think that will fix it also?
[11:24] <GNULinuxer> arnonym> i thought you got the kernel from a repo ... so i wanted to know the name of the repo
[11:24] <LinuxJones> Ubuntu, what language do you speak ?
[11:24] <drigloi> bl4cktone, You'll tell :)
[11:24] <bl4cktone> yep it works now
[11:24] <arnonym> GNULinuxer: ic. i did not find a apt-get source too
[11:25] <Ubuntu> linuxjones im speak dutch
[11:25] <bl4cktone> drigloi it's working great except for some reason my penguin keeps turning left
[11:26] <jedipottsy> ne1 know how to get wacom thing installed?
[11:26] <ninwa> What's a good GUI cron manager?
[11:27] <drigloi> bl4cktone, have you gave beer to him?
[11:27] <LinuxJones> Ubuntu, there is a dutch speaking Ubuntu channel if you find it easier to get rolling in your native language. #ubuntu-nl
[11:27] <LinuxJones> ninwa, gcron
[11:27] <Ubuntu> thx linuxjones
[11:28] <LinuxJones> Ubuntu, :)
[11:28] <ninwa> LinuxJones: Groovy, thankya.
[11:28] <bl4cktone> drigloi learning linux has brought me to drinking but in my drunken maddness I doubt I've given him any
[11:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> what the hell does this mean?:  mplayer-586: Depends: libavcodeccvs (>= 2:20050417-0.0) but it is not going to be installed
[11:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> why isn't it going to be installed ?
[11:29] <Seveas> bl4cktone, omg, DUCK HUNT!
[11:29] <LinuxJones> BROKEN_LADDER, it has broken dependencies
[11:29] <arnonym> BROKEN_LADDER: because it is not available. broken dependencies
[11:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> why doesn't it install them?!
[11:29] <drigloi> bl4cktone, hasn't your left cursor key sticked then :)?
[11:29] <zenrox> whare does ubuntu store this file /proc/sys/dev/sensors/ casue it done exist and lm-sensors or loaded and running
[11:30] <LinuxJones> BROKEN_LADDER, probably because it isn't available
[11:30] <bl4cktone> drigloi nope I think it makes him turn left evenmore when I have it down
[11:30] <bl4cktone> seveas yeah man brings back memories
[11:31] <zenrox> i am trying to get a xchat script worken but cant if that dir dont exist in thaty spot
[11:31] <zenrox> trying to get it to display my cpu temp
[11:33] <Burrito> does anybody speak spanish?
[11:34] <jedipottsy> ne1 got wacom running with ubunut?
[11:34] <jedipottsy> ubuntu*
[11:34] <zenrox> Burrito,  ya in #ubuntu-es
[11:34] <zenrox> ??
[11:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> i cannot kill gxine
[11:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> this happened yesterday too..i couldn't kill a process.
[11:36] <narch> hmmm
[11:36] <cary> Seveas, still around for a quick question?
[11:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> 1000     10030  0.8  2.7 120404 27156 ?        D    14:34   0:01 gxine
[11:36] <Seveas> cary, yep
[11:36] <cary> awesome
[11:36] <cary> Seveas, in the kernel HowTo its telling me about files called 'vmlinuz' etc. i cant find these files...is it a grub thing? after installing the kernel what should i be doing as a PPC user?
[11:37] <BROKEN_LADDER>  sudo kill -9 10030
[11:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> WHAT do i do when kill -9 doesn't even work?
[11:37] <Seveas> cary, how exactly did you build the kernel, with make-kpkg?
[11:37] <cary> Seveas, yes
[11:37] <Seveas> cary, awesome
[11:37] <Seveas> then you got a .deb file which you installed, right?
[11:37] <cary> yeah
[11:38] <LinuxJones> BROKEN_LADDER, the D indicates that the process is locked by the kernel. It might go away by itself or a re-boot will make it go away.
[11:38] <cary> (and i was acutally root this time in compiling! woohoo!)
[11:38] <Seveas> cary, well, you're set then. The scripts inside that debfile will have updated /boot/grub/menu.lst to contain the new kernel too
[11:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> why can't i unlock it?
[11:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> and kill it.
[11:38] <LinuxJones> BROKEN_LADDER, because the kernel won't let you
[11:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> why not?
[11:38] <cary> Seveas, but it thgouth that since i am PPC ubuntu i dont have grub
[11:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> it's my kernel, i should be able to tell it to do whatever i want.
[11:39] <Seveas> BROKEN_LADDER, probably it's in some uninterruptible system call...
[11:39] <Seveas> cary, hmm, right
[11:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh jesus.
[11:39] <cary> i have no dir's in my /boot
[11:39] <Seveas> well, it might have updated yaboot as well, i suspect it has :)
[11:39] <cary> so shoudl i roll the dice and reboot into the new kernel?
[11:39] <Seveas> But since i know nothing about yabout, I cannot guarantee it
[11:39] <cary> should i in fact back up my boot image dillys like the howto says?
[11:39] <Seveas> cary, you should, it won't have removed the old kernel :)
[11:40] <cary> Seveas, awesome. here goes!
[11:40] <Seveas> cary, just out of curiousity do ls -al /boot
[11:40] <cary> Seveas, is there a command line way to reboot
[11:40] <Seveas> and paste the output on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:40] <cary> right nwo?
[11:40] <Seveas> yes :)
[11:40] <bwlang> BROKEN_LADDER: i've had that problem before too... it's a bummer.  buggy software
[11:40] <Seveas> cary, the command to reboot is very simple: reboot
[11:41] <bwlang> cary: shutdown -r now also works
[11:41] <cary> hah
[11:41] <cary> what is that. the -r ...reboot?
[11:41] <Seveas> yes
[11:41] <Seveas> reboot actually invokes that iirc
[11:41] <cary> Seveas, pasted
[11:42] <cary> Seveas, what is iirc?
[11:42] <Seveas> if i remember correctly
[11:42] <Seveas> cary, and it looks good there in /boot
[11:42] <Seveas> try rebooting :)
[11:42] <cary> brb!
[11:44] <nilsl> Hi. I get a: "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH" when I try to install any application.
[11:44] <nilsl> I just installed Ubuntu and uh... What C-compiler do I need?
[11:44] <Spug> gcc
[11:44] <zever> nilsl gcc
[11:44] <Spug> sudo apt-get install gcc
[11:44] <Jimbob> nilsl: "sudo apt-get install build-essentials"
[11:45] <Seveas> build-essential that is
[11:45] <nilsl> Right.
[11:45] <Hablandocontigo> How do I set up my video capture device?
[11:45] <nilsl> Seem to work.
[11:45] <nilsl> :-)
[11:45] <nilsl> Thx.
[11:47] <Codeman7> hey, can anyone here help me set my Palm m515 up on Ubuntu
[11:47] <cary> -=[
[11:47] <cary> put it this way..im booted into os x
[11:47] <jedipottsy> how can i share my printer with a windows pc, connected via lan?
[11:47] <cary> seveas, gave some error
[11:48] <cary> seveas, -=[
[11:49] <nilsl> That last one: build-essential... Will that take some time?
[11:49] <nilsl> Waiting on it for a while now.
[11:50] <ompaul> nilsl, on dialup yes on dsl not so long
[11:50] <dunja> sorry to keep nagging with the same thing, but i'm about ready to pull my hair out trying to get anything to play m4a's
[11:50] <ompaul> nilsl, it should give you some idea of what has been done and what is left
[11:51] <xbalanque> hi, does anybody knows where to find the "esddsp" program -- a program that makes OSS programs use ESD ?
[11:51] <xbalanque> (i couldn't find it in any package in Ubuntu)
[11:52] <cary> seveas, i have to go but as of now my linux is toasted -=[
[11:52] <nilsl> ompaul: Okay. How long for DSL would you say?
[11:52] <ompaul> nilsl, depends on the dsl
[11:52] <quam> i downloaded a sysinfo script for x-chat and when i run it, it thinks im using debian 3.1 :P
[11:52] <abaddon80> I'm currently using the prism54 driver, but I'd like to get WPA working, and I heard that the hostap driver (and firmware) supports it.  I've downloaded hostap-source, compiled, and installed the module, but I'm having difficulty getting it to bring up the interface.  can anyone help?
[11:52] <ompaul> nilsl, but just a sec till we size it - I take it you are using synaptic
[11:52] <superkitty> can anyone give me a hand setting up a shared printer?
[11:53] <nilsl> ompaul: Okay.
[11:53] <concept10> xbalanque, have you tried to change that in multimedia selections?
[11:53] <Codeman7> Ok so I have a device on a USB port... how do I find out what the /dev entry for that port is?
[11:53] <drasko> I can not see /dev/scsi in my system, although I see my usb flash is readed by dmsg... What's wrong, how to mount flash?
[11:53] <ficoc> Join #ubuntu-de
[11:54] <concept10> Codeman7, what kind of device?
[11:54] <xbalanque> concept10, thanks Concenpt, google helped me, apparently it is in the esound-clients package
[11:54] <xbalanque> concept10, I'm insatlling it now, lets see ... :)
[11:54] <Codeman7> concept10: a Palm Pilot
[11:54] <LokeDK> What can I use to burn .cue/.bin files with?
[11:55] <Seveas> LokeDK, i though k3b could handle these
[11:55] <Seveas> if not, use bchunk to convert them into an .iso
[11:55] <concept10> Codeman7, unplug the Palm and in a terminal type in tail -f /var/log/messages  watch that it should tell you
[11:56] <nilsl> Now I get this: "configure: error: gFTP needs GLIB 1.2.3 or higher".
[11:56] <Seveas> nilsl, why are you compiling gftp manually?
[11:56] <Seveas> instead of using the gftp package provided by Ubuntu?
[11:56] <nilsl> Seveas: Heh, I didn't find that one.
[11:57] <Seveas> nilsl, well, there is one :)
[11:57] <xbalanque> LokeDK, k3b to burn directly. There is also a converter to ISO
[11:57] <nilsl> Seveas: I saw a .deb-file, but that one didn't work.
[11:57] <nilsl> Seveas: Right, I'll search for that one, then. Thx.
[11:57] <LokeDK> So k3b supports .bin/.cue?
[11:57] <superkitty> how do i find the host for a network printer?
[11:57] <xbalanque> LokeDK, don't remember the name though :(
[11:57] <CuriosMac> Howdy all
[11:57] <Seveas> nilsl, you should use apt-get or synaptic to find it
[11:57] <ompaul> nilsl, emm not having much luck - do this start a terminal and prepare the command line ; 'sudo apt-get install build-essentials' ; it will tell you what is left and estimate what has to be done ; then stop synaptic
[11:57] <Seveas> nilsl, and enable synaptic
[11:57] <xbalanque> LokeDK, I used it before k3b
[11:57] <Seveas> nilsl: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:57] <LokeDK> oh hmm.. I'll give k3b a try
[11:58] <xbalanque> LokeDK, good luck
[11:58] <LokeDK> thanks
[11:58] <LokeDK> :)
[11:59] <Seveas> ompaul, what do you mean..?
[11:59] <superkitty> how do i find the host for a network printer?
[11:59] <shaun_> I just installed Hoary Hedgehog and I am trying to figure out how to install video codecs such as AVI and MPG.
[11:59] <nilsl> Ah, synaptic rules. :-D
[11:59] <concept10> superkitty, did you try to use the printer utility?
[11:59] <Seveas> shaun_: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[11:59] <superkitty> yes
[11:59] <nilsl> 2 seconds did that take. :-)