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JReRiddell: kat should be fixed (http://jr.falleri.free.fr/fichiers/kat)11:04
RiddellJRe: rocking11:04
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JReewow ten minute black-out :(11:11
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Riddell10:04 < Riddell> JRe: rocking11:12
JReRiddell: ;) thanks!11:12
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Riddell\sh: could you review katapult and kat?01:06
\shRiddell: yepp...this evening :)01:09
\shah btw...the usb recognition with kde isn't working01:09
Riddell\sh: in breezy the media:/ HAL stuff is broken I know01:10
Riddellmaybe I should look at that today01:10
\shRiddell: ah ok..so it's hal dbus magic?01:11
Riddell\sh: could you update your konqueror-shortcuts package to wiki.ubuntu.com01:11
\shhmmm01:36
\shi can't type under X anymore01:36
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Riddell\sh: I can't even start X any more 01:47
\shwell, X is starting and in gnome everything works fine01:47
\shwith KDE ... not keyboard anymore01:47
\shI just fixed the links for the XKeysymDB01:47
\shand XKB01:47
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motaboyHi all!03:40
Riddellhello motaboy 03:42
Riddellmotaboy: fancy reviewing some packages?03:43
motaboyRiddell: now that I finished the first packaging of koffice I'll start reviewing :D03:43
motaboyRiddell: I have some printing problems with kde 3.4.1 from breezy03:44
motaboyRiddell: the preview with kmail, kate and others (not kpdf) is empty e nothing is sent to the printer03:44
motaboyRiddell: do you have the same problem.03:44
motaboy?03:44
JRehi motaboy 03:46
uniqhi guys.03:46
uniqriddell: got the cds today. thanks :)03:47
motaboyHi JRe!03:47
Riddellmotaboy: speedcrunch, katapult, kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts and kat are all wanting review 03:50
Riddellmotaboy: hmm, I confirm on the printing issue03:51
motaboyRiddell: I haven't tried with kde 3.4.1 with hoary03:51
Riddellmotaboy: I asked bab what he plans for koffice-i18n and he isn't sure but will probably keep 1 large source file, so we'll wait for him to do that03:53
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motaboyRiddell: ok03:57
motaboyRiddell: do you know if is bab going to update the debian dir of koffice?03:58
Riddellmotaboy: no doubt he will once he's finished the packaging03:58
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motaboyRiddell: good. How these things usually work? he'll take a look at the debian made by me (probably with tons of problem) or he'll just do it's own packaging?04:00
Riddellmotaboy: probably he'll just do it himself, but if he watches breezy changes he might see it when I upload and take a look04:02
uniqriddell: where are the comments on kio-locate and ipodslave?04:05
Riddelluniq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUNewPackages04:06
uniqah.. i was reading MOTUToReview.. thanks.04:07
JRemotaboy: abakus has not yet been reviewed ?04:11
Riddellthe big question is abakus or speedcrunch for breezy?04:12
Riddell(KOffice vs OpenOffice being the little question)04:13
motaboyJRe: I think abakus was already reviewed and accepted for hoary, but it was lost as hoary was freezed in that period.04:13
JReRiddell: i think may be abaKus is more advanced, but speedcrunch will be turned into real kde apps04:13
JRemotaboy: okay!04:14
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JReRiddell: so it's not easy to decide04:14
JReRiddell: OpenOffice - KOffice is not an easy choice too ;)04:15
JRemotaboy: ping me when you will have packageed the 0.80.2 abaKus i am impatient to try it ;) !04:21
JReow there is some words about speedcrunch on abakus homepage04:23
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Riddellmotaboy: metabar reviewed, looks good04:27
Riddell\sh: please review metabar too04:27
JReRiddell: katapult typo fixed04:27
\shRiddell, noted04:28
RiddellJRe: woo :)04:30
RiddellJRe: any reason to use your package over other one for KRecipies?04:31
\shRiddell, for kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts i fixed the issues...even the bugs <-> bug thing04:31
Riddell\sh: cool :)04:32
Riddell\sh: you can probably upload kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts now04:32
JReRiddell: the only difference is that i have separated recipes from kreceipe (arch-indep and arch-dep package) so if the author plan to furnish more recipe with krecipe may be it can be usefull (but it's not so important there is only 1mb of recipe now)04:32
\shRiddell, i need at least 2 others04:32
Riddell\sh: me and motaboy and you makes 304:33
\shRiddell, i can't review my own package ;)04:33
Riddelldon't see why not04:34
Riddellwho else can we get?04:35
\shhmmm...where is motaboy? ,-)04:35
\shhe should write his name on the wiki page ;)04:35
\shi will ask ogra, he will kill me, but it's worth a try ;)04:36
Riddell\sh: he /msg'ed me that it was fine, motaboy: can you add approval to wiki please04:36
motaboyRiddell: yes. I'll add it. 04:36
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\shi want to try joerg schilings opensolaris distri :)04:38
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motaboyEheh. A news said that the gentoo creator started working for Microsoft.04:45
JRe\sh: i'am looking at kwin-style-qinx. may be you can add the copyright in the copyright file like Copyright (c) 2002-2004 David Johnson <david@usermode.org>04:45
JRe\sh: under license file04:45
JRemotaboy: yeah i have read that! in the nwes thay also say that miguel de icaza was looking for the job!04:46
\shJRe, isn't it on top?04:46
JRe\sh: no there is the name of the upstream author without the copyright, no ?04:47
\shjre: note it on the wiki please, i will have a look directly when I'm at home04:47
JRe\sh: okay i'll note that. i'll note also that you can remove the dirs file04:48
\shJRe, riddell did that :)04:48
JRe\sh: ow okay ;) ;) ;)04:48
\shok...preparing to go home04:51
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JRe\sh: okay i have added also a review for njam05:11
motaboyRiddell: for kdebluetooth there's libqobex that is installed on the system as shared library. I don't think that any other project is using it. Should i package it as any other library or it's ok to keep it in the same deb of the programs?05:31
Riddellmotaboy: it should be a separate package05:32
motaboyRiddell: ok.05:32
\shriddell: where is metabar located?05:47
JRe\sh: metabar: http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~motaboy/ubuntu/breezy/05:51
\shJRe, thx05:52
\shreview of metabar started ;)05:58
JRe\sh: hehe ;)06:01
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\shdpkg-shlibdeps: warning: could not find path for libkatapultcatalog.so.006:06
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JRe\sh: that is not metabar ;)06:07
\shkatapult ;)06:07
JRe\sh: it's strange i don't have this warning when i run lintian06:08
\shJRe, it's in my pbuilder06:10
\shJRe, u override linitian 06:10
JRe\sh: ow yes ;)06:11
\shbut what about something like DEB_SHLIBDEPS_LIBRARY_arkrpg := libfoo06:12
\shDEB_SHLIBDEPS_INCLUDE_arkrpg := debian/libfoo/usr/lib/06:12
JRe\sh: sorry i have to go! i see you tomorow!06:14
\shJRe,  i will try it out and write something06:14
JRe\sh: okay, thanks a lot ;) !06:15
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\shok...katapult reviewed06:42
\shand fixed ;)06:42
\shnext is metabar06:48
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\shmetabar checked, riddell mentioned already everything -> after that ok for me06:59
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uniqriddell: did you look at the new(est) kbandwidth package? (12 jun) 07:30
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Riddelluniq: doing so now07:31
uniqgreat. i'm fixing kio-locate now.07:32
Riddelluniq: probably best not to use "DEB_AUTO_UPDATE_DEBIAN_CONTROL := yes" 07:33
uniqok.07:34
Riddelluniq: couple more changes for kbandwidth at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUNewPackages07:43
uniqk.07:43
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uniqriddell: as for kio-locate changing the version to 0.4.2-0ubuntu1 would be a 'downgrade' from what's already in the changelog.. do we want that? 08:16
uniq(ref. your comment on MOTUNewPackages)08:16
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Riddelluniq: I think we do since the debian version is unreleased isn't it?08:17
Riddellbut might be an idea to check in #ubuntu-motu08:17
uniqit's not in debian.. it's upstream.08:18
uniqok.. i'll do that.08:18
uniqriddell: new kio-locate uploaded.08:41
\shisn't uniq a motu?08:43
uniqnop.08:44
uniqhe is not.08:44
\shgrmpf...I need one more for k-k-s08:44
uniqheh.. well.. i don't have much time right now.. :/08:44
Riddell\sh: try poking amu or haggai 08:45
uniqhave two psychology papers i should be writing.. and i'm changing jobs..08:45
uniqk-k-s? 08:46
Riddellkubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts08:46
uniqah.08:46
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Riddelluniq: need to rm -r cache with kio-locate08:47
Riddellon clean08:47
uniqfixed. and new diff/dsc/orig uploaded.08:51
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Riddelluniq: "rm: cannot remove `./cache/': No such file or directory"08:54
Riddelluniq: needs to be  rm -rf cache08:54
Riddellmy fault that08:54
uniqjust got the error myself.08:54
uniqfixing.08:54
uniquploaded.. with 'rm -rf cache'08:56
uniqnew kbandwidth uploaded.08:57
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froud-writingRiddell: you about?09:17
froud-writingppl I am looking for a way that ubuntu-doc team can work on a Kubuntu Guide in SVN. I would like to have a vendor drop of KDE docs (already checkout local) in svn and make copy of it to trunk where people will write. changes that apply upstream will be merged back to the vendor/ and pushed upstream. Does anyone have any ideas on how I can accomplish it?09:20
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\shRiddell, will it fix my kxdb problem? ,-)09:27
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\shhoi motaboy09:31
motaboyhi \sh 09:32
\shmotaboy, metabar reviewed, fix hoary -> breezy :) and then find a 3rd motu :)09:33
motaboy\sh: fixing now. thanks!09:33
\shriddell: kdesktop is freezing in update manager09:35
\shhmm..was finished but didn't show it :(09:37
Riddellfroud-writing: you want to branch KDE's documentation?09:48
froud-writingRiddell: no09:48
froud-writingI want to custom for kubuntu09:48
froud-writingjust thinking of it now09:49
froud-writingI have kde-doc checkout09:49
froud-writingI would make an import of that to ubuntu-doc svn in /vendor09:49
froud-writingthen do an svn cp to our trunk09:50
froud-writingthat way I can update the vendor/ by merging changes from upstream to it09:50
froud-writingand then selectively merge changes from the vendor/ to the trunk/09:51
froud-writingyou think it can work?09:51
froud-writingthing is we will be starting at revision 427473.09:51
froud-writingRiddell: how would you handle it?09:52
Riddellfroud-writing: sounds like a branch of KDE's documentation to me09:53
froud-writingso how would you do a customization for kubuntu?09:53
Riddellfroud-writing: why would we?09:53
froud-writingyou dont think it is needed?09:54
Riddellfroud-writing: what would it be for?09:54
froud-writingKhelpcenter09:55
Riddellbut why the need to change KDE's documentation?  if we add a Kubuntu guide or three that's great but I don't see the need to change anything from KDE09:55
froud-writingRiddell: no not really upstream is doing a sterling job09:55
froud-writingbut ppl want us to work more with upstream09:56
Riddellfroud-writing: so work upstream then, unless it's a Kubuntu specific document09:56
froud-writingI thought this could be one way without actually just going upstream and doing the work up there09:56
froud-writing:-)09:56
froud-writingOk I agree its a bad idea09:56
froud-writingwhat about selective import with xinclude09:57
froud-writingso we can reuse nodes in the upstream docs within a kubuntu specific doc?09:58
froud-writingfor example we may import a chapter or two from the kde docs into a book09:58
RiddellI don't know what xinclude is, sounds awfae fancy09:59
froud-writinglike an import09:59
froud-writinginstead of duplicating by copy paste you create a new instance at time of processing only10:00
Riddellsure10:00
froud-writingsure you think it can work?10:00
Riddelldunno, as I say I've never heard of it :)10:01
froud-writingit just seems that we so often can use upstream text instead of writing it a new10:02
froud-writingthe question is how to do this in a way that is maintainable?10:02
froud-writingideas are wlecome10:03
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\shRiddell, kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts can go for an upload ;) dholbach signed11:39
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Riddell\sh: awooga11:40
Riddell\sh: on you go then11:40
\shRiddell, just now...have to check dholbachs package11:41
\shbtw...is mota a motu? ,-)11:41
\shi wasn't sure11:41
abbas have a problem kubuntu mount cdrom11:44
abbas use imac11:44
abbaswhen  plase cd11:44
abbascomputer is slow11:44
abbasit isn't mount11:44
abbasit isn't recognize11:45
Riddellabbas: what does `top` say is using up the CPU?11:46
abbasppc g411:47
abbas700mhz11:47
Riddellabbas: francophone?11:47
abbasno sory11:47
abbas plase cd but it isn't mount11:48
abbas is slow11:48
Riddellrun  `top`11:49
Riddellsee which process is busy11:49
abbastop isn't run :)11:50
abbas:)11:51
abbas:(11:51
abbascan you see by ssh or krdc11:51
abbasplease11:51
Riddellif you give me an account I could11:51
uniqabbas: what if you eject the cd? 11:53
\shRiddell, we need to get motaboy a motu status ;)11:53
uniqI had the same problem once on my ibook.11:53
uniqit disappeared with some voodoo magic.. all by itself.11:54
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abbas\sh: I agree (me being Riddell)11:58
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\shmeeting now :)12:00
abbasabbas, is the CD in just now????????????????????????????????????????12:00
abbas ok  just12:01
\shRiddell, please join #u-m12:01
\shph u there ,-)12:01
\shshitty xchat12:01

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