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concept10superkitty, did you try to detect lan printers?12:00
superkittyconcept i dont know the host, or i do and am not sure what they mean12:00
ompaulSeveas, the first set of questions I saw when I came in here during array 3/4 were more linux rpm users getting  to grips with .deb, now it is more like this is how linux works .12:00
superkittyhow do i detect lan printers?12:00
CarlK_im trying to connect to an open wifi at Burger king - but my ubuntu box won;t get an IP...12:00
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CarlK_nor does it see any signal12:01
concept10superkitty,   Click on Global Settings12:01
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CarlK_the win box I am on shows 4 out of 5 bars12:01
LokeDKyeah k3b did it :)12:01
CarlK_I think the Ubuntu box may have a WEP key that won't go away12:02
superkittyconcept ok stupid question for you, where is Global Settings?12:02
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CarlK_anyone know the commands to show what SSID's are detected?12:02
nlghtcrawler-linhey guys12:02
nlghtcrawler-linim having a problem12:02
concept10superkitty, System > Administration > Printing12:02
ompaulnlghtcrawler-lin, and it is?12:02
nlghtcrawler-linim trying to install this package, i type: dkpg -i limewire.deb12:03
nlghtcrawler-linit says12:03
nlghtcrawler-linbash: dkpg: command not found12:03
Seveasnlghtcrawler-lin, and tis is an Ubuntu box..?12:03
concept10dpkg12:03
nlghtcrawler-linyup12:03
nlghtcrawler-linoo12:03
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concept10you spelled it wrong12:03
ompaulnlghtcrawler-lin,  dpkg might be more useful12:03
Seveasnlghtcrawler-lin, that is very odd...12:03
Seveasah narf...12:03
Seveas:)12:03
Seveasi didn't even notice it :)12:03
Seveasit's called dpkg and not dkpg (notice the very subtle difference)12:04
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superkittyconcept it didnt seem to detect12:04
Seveasand using sudo is also neccessary here12:04
nlghtcrawler-lin...12:04
Octanewhat do you need besides latest jre to run azureus?12:04
nlghtcrawler-linwhen i use sudu12:04
Seveassudo dpkg -i limewire.deb12:04
SeveasOctane, azureus perhaps? ;)12:04
ompaulnlghtcrawler-lin, then you give it your password and off it goes12:04
Octane:)))))12:04
Octanethere is something im missing i believe12:05
draskoI can not see /dev/scsi in my system, although I see my usb flash is readed by dmsg... What's wrong, how to mount flash?12:05
concept10superkitty, where is the printer?12:05
SeveasDo you get an error? if so, which error?12:05
Seveasdrasko, ther is no /dev/scsi12:05
superkittyconnected to my server right next to me12:05
Seveasthere's /proc/scsi and /dev/sd*12:05
Mezis there a qweik and easy waty to convert a disk from fat to ext ?12:06
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concept10superkitty, try and use the add printer dialog12:06
draskoSeveas, no sda,b or anything under /dev12:06
SeveasMez, mkfs.ext312:06
Seveasyou'll lose all data though12:06
superkittystill asking me for the host12:06
Mezdont want to lose my data :D12:06
Seveasdrasko, then your flash drive isn't recognized...12:06
bl4cktonedrigloi got him to stop running left12:06
Mezif i wanted to lose it -= I'd no be asking to convert12:06
Seveasis usb_storage loaded?12:06
zho40anyone know how to get the ll comand in ubuntu?12:07
SeveasMez, in that case: there's no way12:07
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Seveaszho40, try ls -l12:07
ompaulOctane, 'sudo apt-get install azureus' should sort out all the problems there12:07
concept10superkitty, what is the ip of the server? try that12:07
zho40yeah, i know that just wanting to save the keystrokes12:07
Seveasif you had an ll command somewhere, there was an alias over there that aliased ll to ls -l12:07
Seveaszho40, in your ~/.bashrc you write: alias ll='ls -l'12:08
draskoSeveas, yes, it is... I can see that issuing the dmesg command... It is regognised correctly.12:08
zho40ah, thanks12:08
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Mezah i guess i can copy yhthe data to a spare fat32 partitions12:08
Mezand then back12:08
bl4cktoneanyonw know how I can up the resolution in tuxracer?12:08
Seveasindeed12:08
nlghtcrawler-linanyone here install limewire on ubuntu?12:08
Mezor even just delete it and reget the repository12:08
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LokeDKJust wondering.. the k3b from apt-get uses cdrdao.. but it doesn't use full speed? the average speed when i just burned was 19x.. and my burner can burn with 52x.. and the cd's.. 48x12:08
nlghtcrawler-linthis is what i've done12:09
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nlghtcrawler-lini've gotten the .rpm off the net, converted it to .deb12:09
nlghtcrawler-linits in /home/user/ folder12:09
nlghtcrawler-linso i go to that under root12:09
Seveasnlghtcrawler-lin, what's the error you get?12:09
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superkittyconcept no go12:09
nlghtcrawler-lini dont see it in the menu12:09
nlghtcrawler-linafter i insatll it12:09
bl4cktonenlghtcrawler-lin http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire12:09
nlghtcrawler-linusing dpkg12:09
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draskoSeveas, dmesg also says: sda: assuming drive cache: write through /dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0  Attached scsi generic sg0 at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0,  type 012:09
Seveasnlghtcrawler-lin, then use smeg to add it12:09
Seveasdrasko, odd..12:09
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Seveasdrasko, have you tried manually creating the device nodes?12:10
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Seveasnlghtcrawler-lin, never expect converted rpms to add menu entries12:10
Mezonly 4198 files to go12:10
Seveas:o)12:10
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Tonglebeaki'm having troubles, and have little experience with linux in general...12:10
Tonglebeakfirst of all, the only screen resolution i can select is 640x48012:11
concept10superkitty, what type of server is it?12:11
Tonglebeakand a refresh rate of 60hz12:11
Tonglebeaksecond ofa ll, my network card is being detected12:11
superkittyclarkconnect?12:11
concept10huh?12:11
draskoSeveas, no... How to do this?12:11
SeveasTonglebeak: GNULinuxer: To find out ho you can change your display's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:11
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Seveashmm12:11
Seveassomething's wrong with that faq entry..12:11
christopher_Hello Ya'll!12:11
nlghtcrawler-lini just insatlled smg, and updated the menu's12:11
nlghtcrawler-linits not there12:12
LinuxJonesTonglebeak, >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FixVideoResolutionHowto12:12
bl4cktonewhere in the world does tuxracer install it's dir?12:12
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Seveasnlghtcrawler-lin, you'll have to add it yourself...12:12
Seveasbl4cktone, dpkg -L tuxracer12:12
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christopher_I just loaded ubuntu for the first time and need to learn how to use some of the features!12:12
TonglebeakSeveas,LinuxJones: what about detecting my network card? it's Blitzz 802.11 wlan12:13
christopher_I am a totally newb to Linux12:13
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bl4cktoneseveas I see!!!12:13
christopher_hello ubuntu, and tyler12:13
tyler__nas12:13
SeveasTonglebeak, sounds like you need ndiswrapper on that one. Do you know which chipset it uses (the lspci command can tell you that)12:13
tyler__hello12:13
tyler__can you help me?12:13
Ubuntuhi christopher12:13
tyler__cristopher12:13
Seveastyler__, just state the problem :)12:14
tyler__ok12:14
christopher_I cant help anyone, I have had linux for about 5 minutes12:14
tyler__i have a scrip12:14
nilslWhat Direct Connect-version works with Ubuntu?12:14
christopher_I came here for some answers actually12:14
Tonglebeaki'd need to log back on linux to find out. i run that from the terminal, right?12:14
Seveaschristopher_, welcome aboard the Ubuntu ship then12:14
tyler__but it had a problem12:14
bl4cktonechristopher I know the feeling12:14
Seveasnilsl, try dcgui-qt (That's valknut)12:14
christopher_Thanks for the howdy12:14
ompaulSeveas, I also point to the word newbie and nubie and things like that to back up my claim :-)12:14
SeveasTonglebeak, yes12:14
nilslSeveas: Right, thx.12:14
tyler__wlanctl-ng:12:14
tyler__./wlanng.sh: line 17: wlanctl-ng: command not found12:15
LinuxJonesTonglebeak, >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto12:15
Ubuntuchristopher can i under ubuntu remote my xp pc?12:15
tyler__??12:15
SeveasUbuntu, of course12:15
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christopher_I believe so12:15
Seveasmenu applications -> internet -> terminal server client12:15
Ubuntuhow it works seveas12:15
Seveastyler__, what are you trying to do..?12:15
SeveasUbuntu, just go to the application I pointed out, it's quite self-explanatory12:16
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maggotsr12:16
Seveasmenu applications -> internet -> terminal server client <-- that application12:16
tyler__y try to put12:16
tyler__my tarjet wifi12:16
christopher_Howdy Maggots12:16
tyler__on channel 112:16
tyler__with the script wlanng.sh12:16
BROKEN_LADDERhas anyone figured out how to use bit torrent?12:17
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tyler__i put this12:17
Seveastyler__, and you are sure wlanctl-ng works with that?12:17
christopher_How do I gain an account on GAIM?12:17
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tyler__./wlanng.sh start ra0 112:17
BROKEN_LADDERchristopher_ gaim has options to let you register a new account.12:17
BROKEN_LADDERchristopher_ try the "accounts"12:17
tyler__wlanctl-ng what is??12:17
BROKEN_LADDERi don't understand using bittorrent.  how can i share files i have?12:17
Seveastyler__, search google/the forums for an answer, I've seen an answer to this on the forums...12:17
GNULinuxerchristopher_> you want to learn?12:18
SeveasBROKEN_LADDER, that's a bit off-topic here, try #bittorent or #azureus12:18
christopher_I want to learn all I can!12:18
tyler__ok12:18
GNULinuxerchristopher_> i mean gaim/12:18
Seveaschristopher_, go to www.tldp.org and pick things you like :)12:18
GNULinuxerSeveas> lol12:18
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christopher_okies12:18
Seveaschristopher_, the ubuntu wiki is also a good source for information12:19
bl4cktonechristopher check out ubuntuguide.org helps you with how to intall some programs12:19
Seveasbl4cktone, bad idea12:19
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Seveasubuntuguide explains nothing12:19
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Seveas(plus: the instructions on it are wrong)12:19
GNULinuxerSeveas> have you noticed how many newbies are hitting the channel everyday?12:19
LinuxJonesSeveas, that's not true12:19
SeveasGNULinuxer, yes12:19
bl4cktoneseveas that's the major source of my knowlege at the moment12:19
SeveasLinuxJones, it is..12:19
alex__http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4282112:19
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GNULinuxerSeveas> the growth of Ubuntu has been amazing12:19
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SeveasGNULinuxer, indeed :)12:20
GNULinuxerSeveas> which distro do you come from?12:20
concept10Seveas, you should have the bot open a browser window when people log in12:20
SeveasCombined Windows XP (home desktop) Debian/Gentoo (server) and solaris/red hat (work)12:20
ompaulGNULinuxer, well when you get the likes of the guys behind kanotix and knoppix in here helping users you know something is shaping up12:20
alex__can anyone help me with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42821 ?12:21
GNULinuxerSeveas> I really sit and watch first-timers flock to the channel ...12:21
Seveas:)12:21
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christopher_I am going to check this out for a few mins I'll be back guys!  Thanks for info!12:21
Seveasmy main reason to be here is help newbies get a smooth intro in Ubuntu and Linux in general12:21
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GNULinuxerSeveas> could we imagine people adopting Debian from windows?12:22
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SeveasNo.12:22
GNULinuxerSeveas> you are behind kanotix?12:22
SeveasMaybe now, with sarge finally released12:22
SeveasGNULinuxer, no, I've never even used it :)12:22
alex__i cant connect ubuntu to the internet, full explanation at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4282112:22
tyler__seveas12:22
tyler__in my system12:22
GNULinuxerSeveas> well, ubuntu is debian IMO12:22
bethorhi, I am trying to prepare a box for installation. I haven't coped with hareware for a long time. Could it be that I can't run Serial ATA and ordinary IDE/ATA hds in parallel? sorry for this dumb question :-)?12:22
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zythalex__, have you tried sudo modprobe airport12:23
tyler__the command wlanctl12:23
michael__hi12:23
tyler__is not found12:23
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SeveasGNULinuxer, in many ways it is, but I find it an improvement of debian12:23
GNULinuxerSeveas> surely ...12:23
SeveasI'm just curious how things are going to work out with sarge released12:23
alex__zyth: yes, no feedback from typing that12:23
GNULinuxerSeveas> you come from Debian?12:23
michael__I'm new to linux, can nebody tell me how to set up my wireless12:24
Seveasbethor, you can12:24
LinuxJonesmichael__, >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto12:24
SeveasGNULinuxer, my server (which now hosts *.ubuntulinux.nl) has been using debian for quite a while12:24
Seveastyler__, please search better on the forums, there are also install instructions for wlanctl-ng12:24
GNULinuxerSeveas> great ...12:25
ompaulmichael__, have you done this "system - administration - networking" it may help if not then the url :)12:25
GNULinuxerSeveas> the best way we can attract more users is by being helpful and understanding in this Channel12:25
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bethorSeveas, thanks.12:25
GNULinuxerSeveas> BTW, why do you think ubuntuguide is bad?12:25
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SeveasGNULinuxer, my thoughts exactly :)12:25
michael__yea12:25
michael__but i dunt know how to install my drivers12:26
UbuntuSeveas:  terminal server says connection refused must i disable firewall or what can i do12:26
SeveasGNULinuxer, suboptimal solutions, misinformation, no explanation, confusing to newbies, still contains marillat unstable and backports by default and so on....12:26
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Seveasthe wiki explains all these things but better12:26
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GNULinuxerSeveas> OTOH #debian used to be very hard on newbies12:26
bl4cktoneI'm about to make a noob comment but I wanna make linux pretty! having trouble installing it with synaptic12:26
bl4cktoneEnlightment that is12:26
SeveasUbuntu, make sure you choose the right protocol (RDP or RDPv5 for windows remoote desktop)12:26
lukus001hey does anyone know why real player wont install via chroot /synaptic 32 bit?12:26
SeveasGNULinuxer, i know12:27
Seveaswe don't want that spirit in here12:27
ompaulmichael__, you were handed  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto in there are references to what you need to do with some stuff12:27
GNULinuxerSeveas> if we don't have the backports, how will they get packages ?12:27
concept10GNULinuxer, still is :)12:27
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GNULinuxerconcept10> lol12:27
SeveasGNULinuxer, backports is (now) good up to standards12:27
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Seveasbut marillat should not be used due to dependency problems12:27
michael__k, ty12:27
Seveasand recommending backports by default is also a no-no to me12:28
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GNULinuxerconcept10> they have a default ans. for noobs --> RTFM & STFW12:28
GNULinuxerSeveas> I see12:28
lukus001can anyone help me with chroot /synaptic 3212:28
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BushutoCan anyone help me with my CD driver..12:29
concept10GNULinuxer, I shut a guy up in there the other day, I told him if he has nothing to offer except JFGI dont bother typing.  He stopped talking12:29
tyler__seveas i just intall the wlantlc-ng12:29
BROKEN_LADDERi can't get helix player to play theora files. :(12:29
tyler__but now12:29
Seveasconcept10, lol :)12:29
tyler__the error is this12:29
tyler__wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported12:29
tyler__when i run the script12:29
GNULinuxerSeveas> I am using GNU/Linux since 1997 ... but I have never seen such a vibrant and helpful community with an excellent distro ... kudos to guys like you12:30
SeveasBROKEN_LADDER, why would you used a closed-source player to play a wonderful open-source codec??12:30
superkittyconcept still having issues with the printing12:30
SeveasGNULinuxer, thanks :)12:30
GNULinuxerconcept10> haha. BTW, what is JFGI?12:30
BushutoWhy is it when I try to install an operating system it just crashes halfway through setting up??12:30
concept10Seveas, I just installed sarge on a old box to learn to istall a LAMP stack12:30
SeveasGNULinuxer, to my opinion GNU/Linux has not been beginner-friendly until last year12:30
LinuxJonesBushuto, a hardware problem maybe12:30
Seveaswhen Ubuntu finally got stable12:30
GNULinuxerBushuto> is it about any distro?12:30
ompaulconcept10, you should have told him to - jfgi for netiquette   :-)12:31
Bushutohuh12:31
SeveasGNULinuxer, JFGI=www.justfuckinggoogleit.com12:31
GNULinuxerSeveas> yeah ... the SuSE guys tried ... but they made the distro inflexible12:31
squinnOne of my friends on the internet made a cooler site, Seveas.12:31
squinnhttp://showmethegoogle.com12:31
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concept10superkitty, sorry - cant help :(  I need more info about your configuration12:31
Seveasconcept10, installing a lamp stack is dead-easy in Ubuntu12:32
SeveasYou can do that in 5 minutes...12:32
superkittytell me how to get the info and i will happily send it along12:32
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concept10Seveas, I just moved to Ubuntu after a year with Fedora. Better communtiy12:32
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BROKEN_LADDERSeveas what player would you suggest?  i'm all ears.12:33
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alex__anyone else have any ideas on how to solve http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42821 ?12:33
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Bushutowhen I'm installing an operating system, it loads everything into the ram and runs off of that or just off of the disk. or both..12:33
atyanyone know why i would get an error messege when running the music player bundled with ubuntu, it says there is no plugin to handle an mp3 file12:33
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concept10superkitty, how is the printer connected?  to what computer?12:34
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SeveasBROKEN_LADDER, any player on Ubuntu should play theora. Try totem12:34
GNULinuxersquinn> IRC is not BBCode enabled12:34
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Seveasalex__: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.12:34
mtbeedeealex__ I dont know, I have ubuntu on my 600 mhz g3 ibbok and it works fine12:34
cpayanaty you need the plugin codecs12:34
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GNULinuxerBROKEN_LADDER> MPlayer12:34
cpayanthere's a bunch of material around on the wiki and forums about which packages you need12:34
Seveasaty: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats12:34
atyaite il try that12:34
BROKEN_LADDERi can't install mplayer.12:34
atythanks alot12:34
Seveasaty, read that, it explains all about 'why don't i have mp3'12:34
concept10Seveas, could the bot open a browser window?12:34
cs_Digihey, pretty quick question here, im sure some of u gurus can help :P12:35
GNULinuxerBROKEN_LADDER> what is the issue?12:35
superkittyit is connect to the printer port of the server. i am hooked to the server through a switch12:35
Seveasconcept10, the bot can only put text in a channel...12:35
Seveashow would it ever be able to open a browser window?12:35
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cpayanSeveas the patents are only effective in which countries though?12:35
cs_Digimy wirelss card is dodgy as hell in linux with the range im at. and i have no net connection12:35
BROKEN_LADDERGNULinuxer  mplayer-586: Depends: libavcodeccvs (>= 2:20050417-0.0) but it is not going to be installed12:35
cpayani remember reading somewhere it was a limited amount12:35
nilslI just installed xmms from synaptic. Uh... Where do I find it now? :-)12:35
Seveascpayan, Ubuntu is a global distro :)12:35
mcquaidi'm trying to grab a src pkg from breezy sources, but i get this:12:35
cs_Digii need to download the universe and multiverse repositories but i dont have have a connection12:35
cpayanno, i mean mp3 encoding12:35
mcquaidCould not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)12:36
Seveasnilsl, try beep-media-player too, it's a pretty gtk2 port of xmms. You find it in applications -> sound and video12:36
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alex__bye everyone12:36
Seveas(xmms and beep that is)12:36
Equalizerwhy do i keep getting this error W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian-marillat_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)12:36
concept10Seveas, I think it would be great idea if the bot could open a browser window. But that would be a security concern.  For example some one asks about mp3 and it opens the restricted formats page12:36
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nilslSeveas: Okay.12:36
Seveasmcquaid, apt-get update12:36
mcquaidi have this as one of my sources: deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe12:36
concept10superkitty, is the printer shared on the computer that its hooked to?12:36
Seveasconcept10, of course that would be nice, but it's infeasible12:36
Seveasmcquaid, do NOT use breezy yet...12:37
superkittyyes i can access it from all computers hooked to the box12:37
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gaston_Hi everyone!12:37
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mcquaidcan't believe i forgot to update doh!12:38
superkittyeven this one when i ran Centos12:38
thr1cehi12:38
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jonohi all12:38
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gaston_Can anyone help me with a little problem with xmms?12:38
jonohow can I use rsync to sync two folders on the same machine?12:38
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mcquaidSeveas, ya i'm not going to use breezy yet, i wanted to grab from source to see if i could do my own backport with the script jdong made12:38
Seveasjono, man rsync :)12:38
Zodiacsup dawgs12:38
Seveasmcquaid, ah ok :)12:38
Octaneshould i run wine or vmware?12:38
thr1cewine if possible12:38
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thr1ceis it a program or OS?12:39
concept10superkitty, okay what OS is the server?12:39
Zodiacguys, my DVD player plays slow12:39
SeveasOctane, wine runs single applications, vmware will only run a complete windows...12:39
ZodiacWhat should I do?12:39
SeveasZodiac, enable dma on it :)12:39
superkittyclarkconnect12:39
OctaneSeveas, oh thats good to know12:39
ZodiacI did12:39
ZodiacWhat now?12:39
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SeveasZodiac, and it worked..?12:39
concept10superkitty, what is clarkconnect?12:39
ZodiacNo12:39
ZodiacIt is still weird12:39
superkittyi can access the share file on the clark box12:39
SeveasZodiac, what was the error?12:39
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gaston_neither xmms nor totem works12:39
Seveasor did it actually enable dma?12:39
ZodiacNo error, it just plays weird12:39
superkittylinux12:39
Zodiaclike skips12:39
mcquaidhmm, the jdong's script still grabbed from hoary even though i only have breezy sources now12:40
SeveasZodiac, try sudo hdparm /dev/hdc (or whatever your dvd drive is) and paste the output on paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:40
Zodiacnot sure what the problem is12:40
Zodiacok hold on a sec12:40
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Seveasgaston_, what's the problem..?12:40
jonocan I sync two directories with rsync both ways? it seems I can only sync one dir to the changes in the other instead of applying the changes in both to both directories12:41
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Zodiacwait, where do I paste it?12:41
Seveasjono, rsync has indeed been designed to only support one-way syncing12:41
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concept10superkitty, im not sure about that.  im looking at the clark connect site, that looks neat.  I never heard of that before12:41
bl4cktonehey guys I googled and found http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&highlight=e17 for installing E17 Enlightment did everything but when I get to the part with synaptic tells me the following package has unresolvable dependencies. I'm still a 2nd day linux user so still trying to keep up with the lingo12:41
Seveaszodiac http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:41
jonoSeveas, is there anything to do two way syncing?12:41
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Seveasjono, i bet there is, but I never had to use it so I don't know of any, sorry12:42
Seveasjono, try asking later or on the mailing list12:42
Zodiacok I did it12:42
superkittyi find it strange that centos finds it fine12:42
jonoSeveas, ok thanks12:42
SeveasZodiac, it does not use DMA12:42
ZodiacWhat doesnt?12:42
SeveasZodiac, try sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc12:42
Seveasyour dvd drive...12:42
lukus001can somone help me with this chroot crap pleaty please with surga coating on top?12:42
gaston_Seveas, I downloaded xmms apt-geting and I doesnt work properly!12:42
concept10superkitty, how did you find it in centos?12:43
Seveasgaston_, let me guess: it hangs when you want to play mp3?12:43
gaston_Seveas, YEAP12:43
LinuxJonesjono, have you looked at unison ?12:43
Zodiacok12:43
hondjeHello, happy ubuntuans...anyone down for a installer problem?12:43
Seveasgaston_, open the xmms preferences with <ctrl>P, go to plugins -> output plugins12:43
Seveasand set the output plugin to Esound12:43
superkittyconcept centos detected it through the printing utility12:43
Seveashondje, just shout it out :)12:44
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gaston_Seveas, Ohhhhhh12:44
hondjeSeveas: partitioning dies, /var/log/messages says that mkfs.ext3: File too large while trying to determine filesystem size12:45
LinuxJonesjono, >> http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/12:45
hondjeer, didn't need that Seveas in front ;-)12:45
Razor-Xwow...12:45
ZodiacSo what da ya think Seavas?12:45
Razor-XI got Eterm working12:45
Razor-Xand, it all dies12:45
Razor-Xdies dies dies.....12:45
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cs_Digican the universe and multiverse repositories be downloaded via windows and installed of removable media, my netowrk connection in linux is still dodgy12:45
hondje80 gig WD, the installer detects it as being like 112 TB12:45
SeveasZodiac, try sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc12:45
Seveashondje, ouch12:45
Seveashondje, file a bug please :)12:45
bl4cktonerazor-x no why does it tease you still12:45
hondjeSeveas: Trying to get my brother all 'buntood out12:45
ZodiacI posted it12:45
arnonymi still can't get any input (mic, line-in) on my audigy with 2.6.12. any idea, anyone?12:45
Razor-Xbl4cktone: I don't know12:45
Razor-Xnow it just segfaults when I start it12:46
Seveashondje, this definitely is a bug in the installer12:46
Razor-XI even compiled the damned thing12:46
gaston_Seveas, It worked... I couldn't believe it was _SO_ easy12:46
MezAmaranth - you around?12:46
hondjeSeveas: awesome, I find bugs like the Orkin man12:46
Seveasgaston_, try beep-media-player too, it's a GTK2 (thus better looking) port of xmms12:46
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hondjeSo, what are some alternative installation methods12:46
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Seveasgaston_, it even needs the same fix to get it working ;)12:46
hondjecan I do a netinst?12:46
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shaun_I am wondering how to uninstall packages such as RealPlayer12:46
Seveashondje, well, all installs involve this partitioner, so you will get bitten by this bug anyway12:47
Seveasshaun_, if you installed it as a .deb package: apt-get remove12:47
gaston_Seveas, but....12:47
hondjeSeveas: oh wait, might not be a bug12:47
gaston_Seveas, thanks first... but  Does totem need any special lib?12:47
ZodiacWell I am at a loss12:47
hondjedmesg is barfing out ide problems left AND right12:47
hondjenot too many to the back, though :)12:47
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Seveasgaston_, it needs gstreamer0.8-mad to play mp3 files12:48
Seveashondje, eeew...... maybe a loose cable?12:48
superkittyconcept i really like debian and debian based distros but cant run em if i cant print12:48
shaun_I installed it by downloading it from RealPlayer's website and doing chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin then RealPlayer10GOLD.bin12:48
concept10Seveas, does ubuntu have a default cron to update every night?12:48
hondjeSeveas: could be, hdparm is showing like 4 dma setttings picked, too....could be the greatest bug ever :)12:48
Seveasshaun_, that probably installed into /usr/local/something12:48
Seveasyou can remove the dir it installed itself in12:48
Seveasconcept10, no12:48
shaun_How do I remove the dir?12:49
thr1cerm -rf <dir>12:49
shaun_...and will that get rid of everything?12:49
Seveasconcept10, the updtae manager will download updates every day, but not auto-install them12:49
concept10superkitty, why dont you go and get the information on your printer from the centos box?12:49
Seveasshaun_, maybe some symlinks are left, but not too big a deal12:49
superkittytried that12:49
gaston_Seveas, Could I download it from debian repositories?12:49
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Seveashondje, hmm...12:49
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Zodiachmm maybe I should get a different player12:49
Seveasgaston_, yes, beep-media-player and gstreamer0.8-mad are both in the repositories12:50
concept10Seveas, I was wondering because I havent seen any updates in a week12:50
Seveasconcept10, there were none :)12:50
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gaston_Seveas, But.. not in Ubuntu's one?12:50
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Seveasgaston_, yes, they are in the Ubuntu repositories12:50
hondjeSeveas: can you boot from reiserfs?12:50
Equalizerwhy do i keep getting this error W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian-marillat_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)12:50
shaun_Seveas: How do I install RealPlayer as a .deb package?12:50
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Seveashondje, never tried myself, but it's possible12:51
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SeveasEqualizer, run an apt-get update...12:51
hondjeokay, lets see if I can wrk around this, thanks :D12:51
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Seveashondje, let me know when/if you get it working :)12:51
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Seveasi still think it's a loose cable or a kernel bug though :)12:51
cs_Digiseveas , you appear to be pro at linux, is there a site u can download the universe and multiverse repositories so they can be installed to linux, my linux machine has no net connection atm12:51
Seveascs_Digi, the complete repositories are about 73 GB for hoary...12:52
concept10superkitty, look in the ubuntu wiki.. type 'printing' in the searchbox - there are alot of resources there12:52
Victuswhere can I find the needed repositories ?12:53
hondjeSeveas: will do, or else have a great read for bugzilla12:53
ZodiacHey, seveas, so there is no way to fix my DVD problem?12:53
hondjeSeveas: checked cables, sadly :)12:53
cs_DigiSeveas im assumin there is a way i can select the ones i need and download them seperatly though :P12:53
superkittybye all, Concept thanks for the help12:54
Seveascs_Digi, go to packages.ubuntu.com then :)12:54
gaston_Seveas, uhhhh.... I couldn't find it... which repository should I use?12:54
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SeveasZodiac, as i said enable dma...12:54
Seveasgaston_, universe12:54
Seveasand maybe multiverse for gstreaner0.8-mad12:54
ZodiacHow do I do that?12:54
Seveasgaston: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:54
Seveasgaston: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3812:54
SeveasZodiac, as i said: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc12:55
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shaun_Is there a way to play avi and mpg videos with RhythmBox?12:55
Seveasif that gives an error, give us the error :)12:55
ZodiacI see12:55
cs_Digiseveas , thanks ur a genius.. no internet in linux is a nightmare :P12:55
u19809where can I find swsusp for hoary ?12:55
Seveascs_Digi, yes, and especially if the package manager kinda counts on it :)12:55
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cs_Digiseveas, lol ur dam rite12:56
Equalizerare there any p2p programs like sharezilla(i think thats the name) for linux12:56
Seveasu19809, swsusp is part of the kernel...12:56
ZodiacI swear I have done that like 10 times12:56
ZodiacI wonder if it isnt saving...?12:56
SeveasZodiac, and it never gave an error?12:56
Seveasand you didn't reboot since doing that?12:56
u19809is the standard hoary kernel properly patched or should I recompile ?12:56
Seveasu19809, no idea actually :)12:56
Seveastry the mailinglist for an answer12:57
Seveasi *think* it is enabled...12:57
thr1ceit's patch, i'm pretty sure12:57
shaun_Where should I install packages?12:57
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Zodiacno never12:57
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Seveasshaun_, the package manager installs packages for you :)12:57
SeveasZodiac, that is odd12:58
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Zodiacahhh12:58
Seveastry sudo hdparm -d /dev/hdc12:58
Seveasdoes it say on or off?12:58
kong0what programme should i use for .tgz files?12:58
Zodiacit just gave an error....12:58
Seveaskong0, tzr zxvf filename.tgz12:58
kong0i need to install certain files12:58
Seveastar zxvf12:58
shaun_How do I install RealPlayer using package manager?12:58
kong0in terminal?12:58
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Seveaskong0, what are you trying to install?12:58
kong0cedega12:58
Zodiacso what do I do now??12:58
Seveasshaun_: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support12:58
SeveasZodiac, what is the error?12:58
Zodiachold on, lemme recreate it12:59
kong0Seveas: Cedega12:59
Seveaskong0, search the forum, several people have written cedega howtos there...12:59
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hondjeSeveas: it's hardware01:01
hondjeno bugs today01:01
Zodiachmm01:01
Zodiacweird01:01
Zodiacnow it plays01:01
Seveashondje, what/is was the problem then?01:01
Zodiacwhat the heck is going on01:01
hondjeSeveas: looks to be ide controller01:01
Seveasah :|01:01
hondjeI grabbed what dmesg was saying, showed it to the magical embedded wizard....01:02
EvanCarrollI'm having lots of not fun problems today too with my ide controller or hard drive01:02
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gaston_Seveas, THANKS VERY, VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!!!    :-D01:02
hondjeSeveas: I'm going to see if I can't partition w/ a livecd, and then be sneaky01:02
Seveasgaston_, yw01:02
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hondjelater man, thanks for the thinkin01:02
ZodiacGoodnight Sevas!01:03
ZodiacThanks for all your help01:03
hondjeyeah, 3 cheers for Seveas01:03
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EvanCarrollI'm getting a bunch of error messages hda: Drive not ready for that command.01:04
BROKEN_LADDERcan anyone help me to install mplayer?01:04
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BROKEN_LADDER libxvidcore4: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed01:04
keikozEvanCarroll whiwh command ?01:04
EvanCarrollkeikoz: got me, that all dmesg is telling me01:05
EvanCarroll'hda: drive not ready for that command'01:05
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SurveRhi01:05
seliniumHi all , what does it mean in SYNAPTIC when the icon is a square with a star in the corner?01:05
gaston_Seveas, last little question... could it be?01:05
EvanCarrollI was having dma failures earlier and some other stupid random shit01:05
keikozEvanCarroll maybee you changed your fstab ?01:05
EvanCarrollno.01:06
kungkangselinium: Help -> Icon legend01:06
gaston_Seveas, gstreamer needs libid3tag... which is unavailable.... what should I do?01:06
EvanCarrollfstab woulden't cause dma failures no matter how hard you tried01:06
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seliniumkungkang: Sorry i have just found it. DOH!01:06
kungkangselinium: :) took me a whole day to find that01:06
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EvanCarrollmaybe the drive or controller crapped out, or maybe breezy had a bad update01:07
gaston_gstreamer needs libid3tag... which is unavailable.... what should I do?01:07
thr1ceupdate your repositories01:07
keikozmaybee the bios et that point01:07
thr1ceit'll be available :)01:07
Ubuntuhi01:07
EvanCarrollyea know im getting the errors, 'ID "2" Respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes01:07
EvanCarrolland 'cannot execute "/sbin/getty"'01:07
EvanCarrolloh fun01:07
Ubuntuim dutch where is the dutch channel01:07
seliniumAny idea why almost all of the packages are now Not installed (New in repository) ? Or is it just me?01:07
gaston_Does anyone know what to  I do?01:08
dooglusgaston_: you're using breezy?01:08
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Equalizercan i apt-get php5?01:08
SurveRmm, my english is ver bad. I've a problem when init gdm, play sound init 3 o 4 times anda my pc is blocked. some people know about this problem?01:08
gaston_dooglus, I don't know what it is?01:08
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EvanCarrollEqualizer: apt-cache search php501:09
thr1ceEqualizer, dunno, apt-cache search php01:09
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HrdwrBoBit's not there01:09
HrdwrBoByou can only apt-get php401:09
EvanCarrollenable the universe01:09
thenukegaston_: Seveas already pointed you this, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:09
seliniumSurveR: what is your native language?01:09
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SurveRspanish01:10
dooglusgaston_: what is the name of the package you're trying to install?01:10
EqualizerHrdwrBoB, do you know how to get and install php501:10
seliniumSurveR : You can try /j #ubuntu-es for spanish users01:10
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gaston_SurveR,  welcome to our klan... Nosotros tambien01:10
SurveRthx selinium01:10
seliniumSurveR: np :)01:11
HrdwrBoBEqualizer: you have to get source etc01:11
azumangaI don't seem able to install nvidia-glx in the latest breezy.. is there a fix / different way of doing the nvidia binary driver?01:11
HrdwrBoBEqualizer: but if you just want php, I am almost certain that php4 will be sufficient01:11
gaston_dooglus, gstreamer0.8-mad01:11
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dooglusgaston_: I just installed it fine on 'hoary hedgehog'01:12
seliniumEqualizer: HrdwrBoB is right, for most people php4 is fine01:12
nilslIs hoary better than warty?01:13
dooglusnilsl: it's newer...01:13
nilslOr uh... Which is the newest?01:13
absinthe_osnilsl, in short yes01:13
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LanSharkhello, im using the live disc instead of installing to find out if i can get my sound working, it appears to be a no go, card = audigy SB, any suggestions?01:13
nilslRight.01:13
nilslThx.01:13
dooglusnilsl: warty < hoary < breezy01:13
gaston_dooglus, The package what i need is libid3tag0 wich is needed for gstreamer01:13
dooglusbreezy is still in development and isn't recommended01:13
nilsldooglus: Okay.01:13
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absinthe_osIs everyone using Breezy now? Am I behind the times again =)01:14
dooglusgaston_: I did a "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad" and it installed libid3tag for me:01:14
quamim a noob and don't like taking risks, so i still use hoary :P01:14
dooglusGet:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main libid3tag0 0.15.1b-3 [34.2kB] 01:14
dooglusGet:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe gstreamer0.8-mad 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 [01:14
dooglus50.4kB] 01:14
dooglusFetched 84.6kB in 0s (95.4kB/s)01:14
azumangaI just tried going to breezy, but now I can't get any output from my monitor as nvidia binary driver won't install :(01:14
absinthe_osquam, lol01:14
djsabsinthe_os: Nope (as per the Topic)01:15
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doogluslibid3tag0 is in hoary/main, so I don't think you need to add any more repositories to find it.01:15
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dooglusmaybe the mirror you're using is broken?01:15
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dooglusazumanga: check the topic...01:15
absinthe_osazumanga, look on ubuntuforums in the hoary customization forum for a how-to install latest nvidia drivers01:15
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CarlFKwhy does my wifi connection keep dropping even though I have 90% signal strenght?01:15
azumangaWoops, I'm only seeing half the title, should have looked there. Sorry :)01:15
djs!nvidia01:16
ubotunvidia is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto01:16
HrdwrBoBbecause your wireless hardware/drivers suck01:16
HrdwrBoBor your AP01:16
dooglus"PLEASE DON'T USE BREEZY YET"01:16
absinthe_osor wifi sucks on linux in general01:16
HrdwrBoBabsinthe_os: not really01:16
HrdwrBoBabsinthe_os: it depends almost entirely on your card01:16
bl4cktonecan I use apt-get to attain kismet?01:16
quammy wifi seems to be working ok, but only when i boot with the usb wireless device plugged in. if i try to hotplug it after i've already booted, it doesnt work for shit :p01:16
Danarcan anyone help me with missing partitions?01:16
HrdwrBoBthough wireless in linux isn't generally that easy to use01:16
absinthe_osi know I kid I kid +X01:16
Danari have 3 partitions that gparted can see, but don't show up in /dev01:16
HrdwrBoBbl4cktone: yes01:17
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HrdwrBoBquam: it doesn't work or it's not configured01:17
LanSharkanyone get audigy sound blaster card to work on ubuntu?01:17
HrdwrBoBquam: if you just hotplug it, it won't brint up the interface01:17
dooglusbl4cktone: The following NEW packages will be installed:01:17
dooglus  ethereal-common kismet libgmp301:17
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Ubuntuhi i need help with terminal server client01:17
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doogluskismet is a known package, yes.01:17
gaston_dooglus, It says that it's unstable01:17
Danari was trying to resize one, and they disappeared01:17
dooglusgaston_: what is unstable?01:17
Danar(from /dev)01:17
quamhrdwrbob: im accustomed to plug and play :P after messing with network settings for about 5 minutes, i gave up :P so now i just make sure it's in when i boot :p01:18
CarlFKI am starting to think it is because I didn't close the Networking props dialog01:18
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Tonglebeaki tried the autodetect thing at https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FixVideoResolutionHowto to fix the resolution, but it ended up corrupting gnome i believe, and it will not start up with a gui now. do i just run the autodetect again in recovery mode?01:18
quamhrdwrbob: you know, your name is hrdtotyp :P01:18
phanterhello, I am looking for an easy to configure backup script. I want to backup some folders from a disk to another disk (in the same computer).01:18
HrdwrBoBquam: you know that every IRC client on the face of the planet that coutns has tab completion :)01:18
gaston_dooglus, The libid3tag01:18
quamHrdwrBoB, well now, i guess it does :p01:18
HrdwrBoBUbuntu: what is yout problem?01:18
phanterTonglebeak, that should not be a problem. It will not make things worse ;)01:18
Tonglebeakthnx01:19
HrdwrBoBphanter: cp -a folders /backup/location :)01:19
quamHrdwrBoB, i just started irc'ing again after being gone for from irc and linux for about 5 years, just getting settled in again :p01:19
gaston_dooglus, SORRRY, it didn't say that is unstable... it says that is unavailable01:19
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HrdwrBoBquam: ahr, things have changed :)01:19
UbuntuHrdwrBoB: i will remote my xp pc from ubuntu but it will not work01:19
HrdwrBoBUbuntu: apt-get install rdesktop01:20
HrdwrBoBalso are you sure that remote desktop is available?01:20
dannyhow do i remove ubuntu from my hard drive01:20
Jesse1i have a problem there is no sound in any of the games ive downloaded but sound works fine if i player a mp3 of video01:20
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phanter(HrdwrBoB, i.e.) oke, but I would like a script that I can include in cron and that makes full and incremental backups and stuff... so a bit more powerfull then cp or even a normal tar01:20
Jesse1or video*01:20
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quamHrdwrBoB, yeah, i have like 5 nice fat linux books from 96/97 and i've noticed that all the cool shit they tell you how to do is stuff that's done automatically now in ubuntu, and all the things i have questions about aren't even in them to the slightest degree :p01:20
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dannyhow do i remove ubuntu from my hard drive01:20
Danardanny, why?01:20
visorhi folks01:20
absinthe_osquam, linux changes everyday =)01:20
UbuntuHrdwrBoB: how do i that? im new with unbuntu01:21
ninwadanny, Format your drive, I guess. :o)01:21
dannyit is pissing me off. i want windows for some stuff01:21
absinthe_osdanny, delete the partition?01:21
Danardanny, do you have a livecd?01:21
dannyhow would i do those..im a newb01:21
HrdwrBoBUbuntu: firstly are you sure remote dekstop is available in windows01:21
dannyno01:21
absinthe_osdanny, why not dual-boot?01:21
Danardanny, for which?01:21
ninwadanny, Pop in the windows CD and repartition and format it01:21
CarlFKdanny, you have to take it appart and scrape the iron off the platters ;)01:21
ninwathe installer is straightforward01:21
dannyok carl01:21
dannybastard01:21
danny;p;01:21
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dannylol jk*01:21
jd_hey guys i have a ?01:21
UbuntuHrdwrBoB: yes in windows is remote desktop01:21
ninwajd_, shoot01:21
CarlFKtee hee01:21
absinthe_osjd_, shoot01:22
absinthe_osjinx01:22
ninwalol absinthe_os01:22
jd_how do i upgrade ubuntu through the root\01:22
ninwajd_, what do you mean?01:22
dannyhow would i delete the partition??01:22
jd_how do you get applications01:22
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dannythe ubuntu one?01:22
HrdwrBoBUbuntu: in synaptic, search for rdesktop and install it01:22
visordo you guys know a software like gallery to manage images on a webserver but more "easy" to install, i dont have too much privileges on the server :S01:22
Jesse1danny, just put in the windows cd and follow the stuf fit says to do01:23
ninwajd_, Use a package manager like synaptic.01:23
absinthe_osjd_, Err you mean how do you install programs?01:23
kikkomanhow do i install xine using sudo apt-get?01:23
ninwajd_, Or use apt-get manually01:23
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ninwato upgrade all of your packages, use apt-get upgrade01:23
HrdwrBoBkikkoman: sudo apt-get install xine01:23
UbuntuHrdwrBoB: ok i try that01:23
jd_yes the apt-get01:23
dannydoesnt work01:23
HrdwrBoBninwa: dist-upgrade is in almost all circumstances better01:23
Jesse1danny, it does work01:23
Danarkikkoman, it's xine-ui in ubuntu01:23
jd_give me an example how to do that01:23
ninwaHrdwrBoB, Ah, I wasn't even aware of it, I'm rather new myself, thank you!01:23
absinthe_osdanny, what version of Windows is it?01:23
ninwaSo as HrdwrBoB said, use dist-upgrade then :o)01:23
danny9801:24
kikkomani installed xine-ui but i don't see it =/01:24
ninwakikkoman, Not all applications will create launchers in the menu for you01:24
Danarkikkoman, run xine01:24
dannyits 9801:24
Jesse1danny, .... i'd stick with ubuntu01:24
ninwakikkoman, so in short, use a terminal to launch it, or create a launcher on your panel01:24
absinthe_oslol Jesse101:24
dannynah id rather not have to mess with crossover or wine01:24
ninwaby right clicking the panel, create launcher.. etc01:24
dannythey are annoying as hell01:24
Danardanny, you know, you can run a lot of windows apps on linux with wine or cedega...01:24
absinthe_osdanny, how so?01:24
thenukedanny: boot to dos with that windows CD01:25
thenukeand use fdisk to delete all partitions01:25
kikkomanok thanks guys its working ;)01:25
Jesse1danny, download partition magic01:25
ninwadanny, Like I said earlier, pop in the Windows CD and use it to repartition and format your drive, it's a very straightforward installer.01:25
thenukeand then create new one for windows01:25
dannyok w/e then01:25
absinthe_osHe was sort of testing my nerves01:25
absinthe_os=)01:25
Jesse1lol01:25
ninwaWell, everyone here seemed convinced that Linux was for him and demanded he dual-booted or reconsidered.01:25
ninwaThe first reponse should not have been why.01:26
ninwaThat's just my 2c...01:26
absinthe_osninwa, welcome to the Ubuntu channel01:26
djsninwa: agreed01:26
UbuntuHrdwrBoB: it is installed under synapsys01:26
ninwaabarbaccia, :)01:26
ninwaer01:26
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ninwaabsinthe_os, :)01:26
Danarnothing wrong with asking why. make sure that's what he wants to do01:26
ninwasilly tab-complete01:26
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absinthe_oslol ninwa01:26
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Jesse1how does tab complete work?01:27
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ninwayou type in the first characters of their name and hit tab01:27
absinthe_osSo, is everyone using Gnome these days? I've thought about branching out to some other desktops01:27
ninwait will (usually) get the rest for you01:27
CynetixCan anyone help with XP/Ubuntu dual-boot?01:27
kikkomani have another problem...when im viewing movie trailers from apple.com/trailers/ i can't make it go full screen :(01:27
goldfishabsinthe_os: xfce or flux for me.01:27
kvidellabsinthe_os: I use openbox01:27
Jesse1i see01:27
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absinthe_oscynetix, shoot01:27
Danarkikkoman, viewing them in xine?01:27
kikkomanusing mplayer plug-in01:27
absinthe_osgoldfish, What's Fluxbox like?01:27
Jesse1Cynetix, what is the problem your having01:28
Cynetixabsinthe_os: I have Ubuntu installed and it goes through, states it will reboot inot Ubuntu but it never happens01:28
Danarkikkoman, oh, well that's why01:28
CynetixNo bootloader, just back into XP01:28
goldfishabsinthe_os: very fast, takes a little bit to get it looking nice, i could never go back to gnome after it.01:28
absinthe_osCynetix, Sorry I'm not understanding01:28
Danarkikkoman, save it somewhere and play it in xine, then you could make it full-screen. though it might not look so great01:28
jd_ok guys i have the updates how do install them01:28
CynetixOk. I installed it, and it completed. Ejected CD, said it would reboot into Ubuntu. Instead, it booted into XP.01:28
jd_manuallhy01:28
BROKEN_LADDERdoes anyone know of a way to fix my system if i broke it by running dist-upgrade?01:29
absinthe_osgoldfish, Ok, I'll apt it and check it out =)01:29
kikkomanhmm cause when i don't make it full screen, part of the movie is cut off01:29
absinthe_oscynetix, maybe the GRUB installer didn't work?01:29
ninwajd_, Explain further, I thought your question was answered earlier. To upgrade/install pckages I highly suggest using synaptic package manager.01:29
Cynetixabsinthe_os: I guess. I told it to install Grub to MBR but no boot options, nada01:29
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BROKEN_LADDERis there any way to downgrade in apt-get?01:29
Jesse1BROKEN_LADDER, i dont think so01:30
EvanCarrollBROKEN_LADDER: sort of.01:30
goldfishits messy01:30
kong0how do i use tgz files?01:30
absinthe_osCynetix, Are you in Windows right now?01:30
DanarBROKEN_LADDER, in synaptic you can force version...01:30
CarlFKdanny, probably what you really want to do is isntall something else over the top of it01:30
absinthe_osCynetix, same pc?01:30
thenukejd_: apt-get update updates  and apt-get upgrade upgraders01:30
goldfishkong0: what is it?01:30
EvanCarrollBROKEN_LADDER: if you don't run apt-get clean, you still have the old debs, and you can dpkg -i them01:30
kong0i need to install it01:30
Cynetixabsinthe_os: However, let me preface that by saying it's installed on the second drive in my system on a SATA controller.01:30
kong0its cedega01:30
Jesse1kong0, you need to extract them then install01:30
Cynetixabsinthe_os: The one I'm talking with you now on yes :)01:30
absinthe_oscynetix, yikes outta my league01:30
thenukejd_: google also gives answers to simple questions like these01:31
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kong0well i cant just click on it and install thats the problem01:31
ninwakong0, decompress it using tar -xvzf and then read the installation directions01:31
ninwaread tar --help for what each option does01:31
Danarkong0, .tgz is a compressed/zipped file01:31
absinthe_oscynetix, All I can suggest is trying to re-do the installation of Ubuntu01:31
Danaryou have to extract it first01:31
Cynetixabsinthe_os: Do you know an easy way to make a boot floppy from windows so I can see if it can be accessed that way?01:31
kong0i KNOW01:31
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ninwakong0, Then be more precise, what is the problem?01:32
kong0that god damn command doesnt even work01:32
Cynetixabsinthe_os: Heh, it's been reinstalled 12 times. I started out with Mandrake and finally gave up :)01:32
ninwaDoesn't work is vague, I don't read minds.01:32
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kong0im going crazy here01:32
absinthe_oscynetix, eww sorry man =(01:32
Jesse1kong0, the command does work u not using it properly01:32
Cynetixabsinthe_os: That01:32
kong0how should I use it then?01:32
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ninwaim going crazy too, brb need some more caffiene01:32
UbuntuHrdwrBoB:and now01:33
ninwatry adding the filename to the end of it, and make sure you're in the directory that the file is in01:33
shaun_How do I switch totem and rhythm box to use xine-lib rather than gstreamer?01:33
Cynetixabsinthe_os: That's cool. I appreciate the attempt :) Hopefully someone on the Ubuntu board will be able to help...someday :)01:33
Danarkong0, properly. i hear man pages can be helpful.01:33
absinthe_oscynetix, have you checked www.ubuntuguide.org ?01:33
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Cynetixabsinthe_os: yeah, I have the wiki guide for dual-boot as well. None really address my particular situation.01:34
absinthe_oscynetix, well you can use boot: rescue to gain root priviliges with the ubuntu cd, and reinstall GRUB manually01:34
kong0well THX alot for that...01:34
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Cynetixabsinthe_os: Hmm. How do I do that or do you have a guide for it?01:35
Danarkong0, try right clicking it in nautilus, and uncompressing it from the context menu01:35
kong0nautilus?01:35
Danarthe file manager01:35
kong0...01:35
absinthe_oscynetix, well boot with ubuntu cd, when the "boot:" entry comes up type in "rescue"01:35
BROKEN_LADDERDanar how can i force a version in synaptic?01:35
BROKEN_LADDERDanar and which version should i use to be on the safe side?01:35
absinthe_oscynetix, then use command "grub-install /dev/hd#" where # is your hd name and partition01:35
CarlKsomething is funky... good signal strength, box and card work fine on my home AP, but here i sudenly loose my IP after a few min01:36
Jesse1kong0, to use the command u do tar -xvzf <file>01:36
DanarBROKEN_LADDER, which version of what? i didn't see what was said before that01:36
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ninwaI'm back.01:36
kong0ive already tried that and it doesnt work01:36
Cynetixabsinthe_os: Ok. Do you know a way to get df info from CD? It only returns temp info.01:36
DanarBROKEN_LADDER, click the package, and press CTRL+E01:36
kong0damned it...01:36
ninwaI have "Right Here Right Now" by U2 stuck in my head.01:36
ninwakong0, What's the response when you try it?01:36
kong0would be fun if ppl listnen to me01:36
Jesse1kong0, did u cd to the directory01:36
kong0? cd?01:37
absinthe_oscynetix, sorry don't know about that01:37
Jesse1kong0, cd <path>01:37
ninwakong0, Assuming you downloaded it to your desktop01:37
ninwacd ~/Desktop01:37
ninwathen try unextracting it01:37
Jesse1kong0, then try tar -xvzf <file>01:37
djsCynetix: Just wondering if the issue could it be a BIOS setting of some sort?01:37
kong0i already have extracted it manually outside the console01:37
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absinthe_oscynetix, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#restoregrubmenuafterwindowsinstallation01:37
absinthe_osCynetix, maybe that helps?01:38
Jesse1kong0, now there should be a file called readme now read that and follow the instructions01:38
DanarBROKEN_LADDER, or click the package, then click the Package menu > Force Version....01:38
Cynetixabsinthe_os: Hmm. I wouldn't think it was the BIOS 1024 issue because my box is barely 6 months old and it's SATA instead of IDE but I could be mistaken.01:38
DanarBROKEN_LADDER, doesn't work for every package though01:38
ninwaOne wonders how you managed to install Linux without some basic understanding of directory structures and a little knowledge of shell commands...01:38
DanarBROKEN_LADDER, depends what's available in the repository01:38
BROKEN_LADDERninwa right here right now is not from U2 for the love of god.01:38
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kong0no no readme01:39
ninwaBROKEN_LADDER, The mp3 I have is, I never claimed that they were the first to sing it. :o)01:39
Ubuntucan someone help me with rdesktop i will remote my xp pc from ubuntu but it will not works01:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow do you clean up the k menu in kubuntu?01:39
ninwaBROKEN_LADDER, Out of curiosity though, who did?01:39
absinthe_osUbuntu, is english your first language?01:39
thenukeabsinthe_os: why do you bother asking something like that when you know that it is not, and you can do /whois01:40
Cynetixabsinthe_os: I'll use this and maybe be able to work through. We'll see what happens :) Thanks for your time and suggestions. Later.01:40
Mezhmm01:40
kong0no readme at all01:40
absinthe_oscynetix, later and no prob01:40
MezI jsut isntalled dbian onto my USB hdd01:40
ninwakong0, is there an INSTALL file?01:40
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ninwathose are usually text instructions01:40
absinthe_osthenuke, it's called being friendly01:40
Mezdidnt isntall grub to the master HDD because otherwise it'd need my USB one installed01:40
Ubuntuabsinthe_os: no dutch but when i go to #ubuntu-nl will not help mmmmmmmm01:40
GNULinuxerabsinthe_os> he's from Africa01:40
Mezhow do i make the ubuntu grub detect the debain install01:40
Mezor do i just edit the grub file manually01:40
Jesse1kong0, are you sure?01:40
BROKEN_LADDERDanar i don't even see mplayer in the list in synaptic01:41
kong0how would the install file look like?01:41
DanarBROKEN_LADDER, might need to add universe or multiverse to your repository list01:41
CarlKin "Network settings" dialog,  what is command line version of "Activate"?01:41
GNULinuxerCarlK> ifup01:42
BROKEN_LADDERDanar no..that's all in my sources.list01:42
DanarBROKEN_LADDER, Settings > Repositories > Add > check universe/multiverse. reload package info01:42
CarlKGNULinuxer, thanks01:42
Jesse1kong0, there is no simple click install file you need to run the commands01:42
DanarBROKEN_LADDER, then search for mplayer01:42
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DanarBROKEN_LADDER, prolly mplayer-58601:42
ninwaUbuntu, There is an application called Real VNC that you can download and install on both Windows and Linux and it will allow you to do remote PC controlling, perhaps you should give it a try.01:42
kong0ffs WHAT are the commands?how do i know that?01:43
kong0thara are NO readme01:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know how to seperate the menu items in ubuntu/kubuntu?01:43
ninwakong0, try ./configure && make && make install01:43
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ChurcH_of_FoamYso that when in kde only kde items show up?01:43
BROKEN_LADDERDanar i can't install it.01:43
Ubuntuninwa: thnx i will try that01:43
BROKEN_LADDERDanar in synaptic, there is no mplayer anything in the list.01:43
Danarkong0, there are readmes: 'man tar', 'man unzip'01:43
kong0what is && stand for?01:43
Jesse1kong0, && is so after if finsihes one command it will go on to the next01:44
DanarBROKEN_LADDER, a search for 'mplayer' turns up 11 results for me01:44
Xenguykong0: it means don't execute the 2nd command unless the 1st command completes cleanly01:44
Danar(searching in name)01:44
ninwaUbuntu, You're Welcome01:44
absinthe_osafk01:45
ninwaOr rather, Bitte Schon :o)01:45
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shaun_How do I make Totem movie player use xine-lib rather than gstreamer? Please help01:45
DanarBROKEN_LADDER, if you don't see it, then your sources.list is wrong. add it the way i said above01:46
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kong0lol01:46
kong0im going windows01:46
Razor-Xah hah!01:46
Razor-XC'est la Eterm!01:46
Razor-Xmaybe I do need to down the brightness on this a shade....01:47
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Jesse1Razor-X, what does that mean?01:47
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Razor-X"This is Eterm"01:47
Jesse1ok01:47
Jesse1i have a problem there is no sound in any of the games ive downloaded but sound works fine if i player a mp3 of video01:48
thenukeC'est la vie01:48
Razor-Xwhat kind of games?01:48
goldfish_That's life !!!!!!!!!01:48
absinthe_osjesse1, in console type "killall esd" before starting a game01:48
thenuke:-] 01:48
Razor-Xthenuke: C'est la grande vie?01:48
goldfish_Je suis un homo.01:48
Jesse1absinthe_os, ill try that01:48
Razor-Xun homo, et, unhomosexual?01:48
Razor-X*un homosexual01:49
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Razor-Xah ah, je comprende01:49
goldfish_wee wee.01:49
^thehatsrule^lol...01:49
Jesse1absinthe_os, well that worked :) what does esd stand for?01:50
djs!esd01:50
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.01:50
Razor-Xand eterm isn't giving me troubles with C-b01:50
Razor-XJesse1: Epiphany Sound Daemon01:50
absinthe_osjesse1, enlightened sound daemon01:50
DanarElectroStatic Discharge :p01:50
Razor-XI thought it was Epiphany01:50
Danar(a shock)01:50
Razor-Xubotu: that's not the purpose of a sound server01:51
ubotuNo idea, Razor-X01:51
absinthe_osJesse1, Right now ubuntu uses ESD as it's sound server, and I guess it's kind of buggy01:51
Razor-Xa sound server is the implementation of sound in a server-client environment01:51
absinthe_osjesse1, I've heard they're going to work on it for Breezy01:51
ninwaMan, I remember complaining about Linux only being able to play one thing at a time and I came up with this AWESOME idea of making a server that would handle the applications requests, and act as a software mixer, and when I told people in #linux they all laughed...01:51
ninwaThen I found out about esd...01:51
ninwa=/01:51
Razor-Xspecial devices (alsa's dmix) allow the sound server to manage simeltaneous music streams01:51
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Jesse1absinthe_os, ok but now atleast now i can get it to work01:51
Razor-Xninwa: ;)01:51
Razor-XI don't think Arts supports that by default, unfortantely01:52
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absinthe_osJesse1, Glad I could help =)01:52
Varangercrimsun: hi01:52
Jesse1now i just have to figure out why it crashes when flying toaster screen saver comes on01:52
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nitroxhow do i apt-get install emacs01:53
absinthe_osjesse1, lol that I'm not sure about01:53
Varangernitrox: sudo apt-get install emacs01:53
ninwanitrox, Your answer is in your question!01:53
Razor-Xnitrox: i'll get it for you01:54
Razor-XVaranger: nopes ;)01:54
Razor-Xdo you want it in a Console, or X?01:54
Razor-X(I prefer it in Console meself)01:54
VarangerRazor-X: why? :(01:54
nitroxit said emacs as no installation candidate01:54
CarlKwifi scanner - k?sm?t - what are the volues?01:54
Razor-Xnitrox: do you want it in Console or x?01:54
Razor-X*X01:55
nitroxin X01:55
Razor-XVaranger: cuz I said so! ;)01:55
Razor-Xnitrox: sudo apt-get install emacs-2101:55
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nitroxcouldn't find package is the message i get01:55
ninwaits emacs2101:55
Jesse1Razor-X, theres no 001:55
ninwanot -2101:55
VarangerRazor-X: ohh, I see you are right now01:55
Jesse1Razor-X, theres no -*01:55
Razor-Xerrr, emacs21, there you are01:55
absinthe_oshas anyone tried arch-linux>01:55
absinthe_os?01:55
Razor-Xabsinthe_os: nopes01:56
rob^anyone know where I can get export_divx4.so from?01:56
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Razor-XI prefer the Console version meself01:56
ninwanitrox, Consider using Synaptic from now on.01:56
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ninwaIt has a built in search feature.01:56
Razor-Xand, it seems Konsole sometimes seems to not work with C-b01:56
nitroxI will01:56
kong0ok NOW i got it workign01:56
Razor-Xninwa: why reccomend a GUI utility?01:56
nitroxI will get to apt-get another time01:56
kong0i ectracted it and where did it go?01:56
Razor-Xisn't it easy to aptitude search?01:56
Razor-Xor sudo apt-cache search01:56
absinthe_osI like Ubuntu but it's somewhat sluggish. I'm a crazy minimalist01:56
Razor-Xbut, the former doesen't need root privileges01:56
Jesse1kong0, it would have went to the folder the tar was in01:56
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absinthe_osI've thought about trying Arch, I've heard it blazes01:57
Razor-Xabsinthe_os: i'm assuming you do everything in command-line/01:57
Razor-X*?01:57
atyi know this is a really stupid question, but how do you excute a .bin file which is a self extracting shell script, because i am trying to install a jave runtime enviorment01:57
absinthe_osRazor-X, For the most part yes01:57
aty?01:57
kong0well thats strange cus it isnt..01:57
Razor-Xabsinthe_os: then, use Debian proper01:57
dooglusaty: "su sdfsdfsd.bin"01:57
absinthe_osRazor-X, What is "proper"?01:57
atyohhh ok01:57
Jesse1kong0, where could have it gone?01:57
Razor-Xif you don't want an X manager, but still want multitasking and desktop environmentns, install twin01:58
atyil try that, thanks01:58
dooglusaty: "sh sdfsdfsd.bin"01:58
Razor-Xabsinthe_os: a figure of speech01:58
dooglussorry.01:58
thenukeabsinthe_os: well, you can customize ubuntu to be whatever you want it to be01:58
kong0sudo tar -zxvf /home/kong0/Torrents/cedega/cedega_4.3_tgz/cedega_4.3-1.i386.tgz01:58
dooglussh, not su, sorry.  this new keyboard is horrible.01:58
thenukeabsinthe_os: it definately is sluggish if you have old PC01:58
Razor-Xbut, if you want X, I suggest something like TWM or Ratpoison, or something01:58
ninwaRazor-X, It's more manageable in Synaptic IMHO. It's a matter of preference, if you can't agree with that, then well... :o)01:58
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absinthe_osthenuke, Yeah, like I said I love Ubuntu, I just wish Gnome was a bit quicker01:58
ninwaUsers want friendliness, Windows became popular for a reason, you know.01:58
Razor-Xninwa: GUI itself is a bit clunky, in my opinion01:58
Jesse1kong0, it should be in the folder cedega_tgz01:58
ninwaMaybe that was a bad analogy, though, haha.01:59
kong0absinthe os u dont HAVE to have gnome u know..o could have blackbox01:59
thenukeabsinthe_os: try fluxbox01:59
kong0i know01:59
Razor-Xyeah, i'm a have to tone down the brightness on my eterm background01:59
absinthe_osRazor-X, Are you suggesting I drop a gui completely lol01:59
kong0but it isnt01:59
ninwaabsinthe_os, Yeah, go for it! Who needs X.01:59
Razor-Xabsinthe_os: TWM for ultra-minimalistic01:59
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kong0should i run the command again?01:59
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absinthe_osthenuke, ok I will =)01:59
Razor-Xabsinthe_os: your choice, like I said TWM for ultra minimalistic, XFce for something inbetween01:59
absinthe_osthenuke, I've heard of it01:59
Razor-Xewww, Flux looks nasty01:59
Jesse1kong0, go to the tar and right click it then push extract here02:00
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Razor-XEnlightenment uses the same amount of resources, and is waaay better looking02:00
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dooglusRazor-X: you can make it look slightly less nasty02:00
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kong0ok wait i think i found it02:00
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thenukeabsinthe_os: yup, i'm sure you will just LOVE it :) if you can handle a bit tweaking and configuring with console without the help of GUI02:00
kong0/home/usr02:00
Razor-Xdooglus: yeah, but, Enlightenment, if configured, is a billion times better than Fluxbox ;)02:00
BrianHHHi, everyone.  I'm trying to install xchat 2.4.3, but it's not working.  The install doesn't build the GTK or text interfaces, and no xchat binary gets built.  Can someone help me out?02:00
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absinthe_osthenuke, I love tweaking and configuring :D02:01
kong0however there still are no readme02:01
absinthe_oslol02:01
dooglusRazor-X: enlightenment always struck me as being fur coat and no knickers02:01
Jesse1kong0, well you should really buy the software02:01
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kong0i know but hey im 30 $ back02:01
Octanewhats the command to find out whats using something02:01
Danarkong0, if you don't want to buy it there's the cvs version02:01
kong0lol02:02
kong0wine?02:02
thenukeabsinthe_os: great =)02:02
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CarlKOctane, lsof?02:02
dooglusOctane: fuser?02:02
Danarno, cvscedega: http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/index.php/Main_Page02:02
OctaneCarlK, thank you!02:02
kong0danar does it work then?02:02
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hadonewill ubuntu support my smc ez connect wireless card?02:02
Octaneis cedega better than wine02:02
absinthe_osoctane, use "system monitor" applications->system tools->system monitor02:02
scotta lot of times when I change songs or skip forward (also in movies) in totem and other players I hear a loud screech. anyone else get that or know how to get rid of it?02:03
absinthe_osoctane, for gaming yes02:03
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Danarkong0, apparently it lacks a few features the paid version has02:03
yoda102:03
CarlKdhcp says "renewal in 235353 seconds." but it only lasts about 500 seconds, and then my IP goes away02:03
Danarbut they end up in cvscedega eventually02:03
absinthe_osthenuke, what about IceVM?02:03
kong0how do i install that?02:03
absinthe_osthenuke, err iceWM02:03
Danarcedega isn't _better_ than wine, it's just better for games. wine is better for general apps02:03
Danarkong0, check the page02:03
thenukeanatole: I havent tried that02:03
kong0danar: are there any readmes or sunthin? maybe ubunutguide has the commands?02:04
thenukeabsinthe_os: I havent tried that02:04
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ThE__OnEhi all02:04
Danarkong0, here's a suggestion: try reading the page!02:04
Jesse1kong0, if you check the site theres a tutorial on it about 4 lines down02:04
Varangerhow do I change the language spellchecker in Ubuntu?02:04
absinthe_osthenuke, I'll just try out several of them and see what snags me02:04
absinthe_osthenuke, checking out flux now02:04
thenukeabsinthe_os: XFCE is another lightweight thing what _many_ loves02:04
absinthe_oslater02:04
Varangerhow do I change the language spellchecker in Ubuntu's OpenOffice.org ?02:04
Jesse1Varanger, you need to download the dictionarys from openoffice.org02:05
Varangerthen?02:05
BROKEN_LADDERis there a way to tell mplayer to use esd?02:05
VarangerJesse1: then?02:05
thenukeflux is a bit lighter than XFCE as far as I know, but if you are dealing with more than pentium 100MHz and so on.. you could try XFCE also02:05
kong0danar here's a question: What Site?02:05
Octaneanyone elese having problems with cvs wine on amd6402:05
Danar"Danar no, cvscedega: http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/index.php/Main_Page"02:05
Jesse1Varanger, theres instructions ive forgot i can get them for you02:06
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concept10BROKEN_LADDER, try using the multimedia systems selector02:06
BROKEN_LADDERfigured it out.02:06
BROKEN_LADDERsweet02:06
BROKEN_LADDERmplayer -ao esd02:06
jd_hi02:07
BROKEN_LADDERmy matrix I rip is workin! yayyy02:07
hadonewill ubuntu support my smc ez connect wireless card?02:07
BROKEN_LADDERogg theora looks pretty damn good.02:07
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Danaryeh, and it's open :)02:08
ThE__OnEhow can i reinstall ubuntu to its original state02:08
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Varangerho do I start ubuntu in console mode ?02:08
Ubuntuninwa:02:09
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ninwaYes?02:09
absinthe_osthenuke, fluxbox is sweeeeeeeeeeet02:09
kong0Danar: how was i supposed to see the command for cvscedega?02:09
kong0without paying...02:09
CarlKhadone, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28network%2902:09
ninwaUbuntu: Yes?02:09
Danarkong0, well, they mention it on the site (transgaming)02:10
Danarthe makers of cedega02:10
kong0i cant just go in there and get the command u know02:10
Danaror, if you had found that linux gamer site...02:10
Ubuntuninwa: i have installed vnc in xp should also do this in ubuntu?02:10
Jesse1Varanger, http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org/download_dictionary.html02:10
CarlKare there any #channels for wifi on linux like stuff?02:10
hadonethank CarlK02:10
ninwaUbuntu, at least install the client in Linux, and you should be able to connect to the Windows machine running the server.02:10
ThE__OnEhow can i reinstall ubuntu to its original state02:11
CarlKhadone, I have had much better luck with Ubuntu and odd wifi cards02:11
cthulfuegoUbuntu (Gnome) comes with the client.02:11
kong0ahh lol danar ur just to much02:11
ninwaThere you go. :o)02:11
Danarkong0, personally, i found cvscedega mentioned on the transgaming site, and googled it, and found that linux gamer site02:11
ninwaI didn't know that.02:11
hadoneodd? like off brand?02:11
cthulfuegoit even comes with a Windows Remote Desktop client.02:11
VarangerJesse1: thx !02:12
Varangerho do I start ubuntu in console mode ?02:12
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Ubuntuninwa: ok02:12
Victuswhere can I get intel display drivers?02:12
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ThE__OnEanyone help me02:12
cthulfuegoVictus: They're already on your syste,/02:12
rob^does ubuntu have a dumbed down version of transcode? It doesnt seem to contain the divx .so 's02:12
kong0danar: i open the WineCVS.sh file with less and nothinh happens02:13
DanarVaranger, try ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a console if you want. ctrl+alt+f7 to get back02:13
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Victusdo I have to use dpkg?02:13
Danarkong0, you didn't 'open' it with less, you displayed it with less. it's a script, which you want to execute. this is indicated by the '.sh'02:13
Danarkong0, in the same dir as the file, type 'chmod +x <filename>' to make it executable, then type ./<filename> to run it02:14
VarangerDanar: thx!02:14
DanarVaranger, np02:14
kong0i never got the file02:14
kong0danar02:14
VarangerVictus: which card do you have?02:14
DanarVaranger, there's also f2, etc02:15
kong0danar: when i opened with less nothing happened02:15
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Danarkong0, then how did you display it with less?02:15
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Danarkong0, save WineCVS.sh to your home dir or somewhere handy. open a terminal window and make sure you're in that dir. then do what i said above02:16
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Danarkong0, alternatively, you could bother to actually read the page where it's all explained in detail02:17
Jesse1Varanger, also you might want to look at this software http://ooodi.sourceforge.net/02:17
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kong0aight02:17
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Jesse1hmmmm for some reason the apps ive installed are appearing in the application list02:18
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kong0Danar: lol forgot to mention this is my secind day with llinux so i dont even understand a quarter of the instructions posted in that readme file02:20
cthulfuegokong0: better start reading then.02:20
CarlKis there a way to run ifdown && ifup when my IP evaporates?02:20
cthulfuegoCarlK: evaporates?02:20
Jesse1kong0, check out the guide as well if your new http://www.ubuntuguide.org/02:20
Danarkong0, you ought to be able to simply follow the instructions. copy & paste the commands, etc...02:20
we2bylooks like I can't access smb shared folder ona  remote machine in a lan02:21
CarlKcthulfuego, like just now, my pings tuned into "ping: sendmsg: Network is unreachable"02:21
Danarfor the most part, if you follow the instructions properly, you shouldn't have a problem02:21
ThE__OnEanyone help me02:21
Jesse1ThE__OnE, what is your problem02:22
kong0are u saying im supposed to type ALL thoose commands couse i didnt get that...02:22
CarlKcthulfuego, and ifocnfig doesn't show an IP, but the "signal stength" stays at 90%02:22
Jesse1kong0, the instructions are preety basic02:22
LanSharkanyone get audigy sound blaster card to work on ubuntu?02:22
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we2byI have problem with smb02:23
kong0well an answer would be even more basic for me...02:23
Danarkong0, just follow the directions. if you don't want to type them, there's always copy & paste02:23
LanShark... ?audigy 202:23
we2bya few days ago it still works fine02:23
Danarkong0, just highlight it, then middle-click to paste02:23
kong0middle click?02:23
Lafitte-we2by, how many guesses to finish your description ?02:24
ninwaThat'd be the button between the left and right button, on your mouse.02:24
CarlKkong0,  or both right+left if you dn';t have a middle02:24
Jesse1kong0, your mouse has a scroller right? then u bust that down02:24
ninwaUsually a scroll-wheel. :o)02:24
Octaneanyone else here having problems with xine?02:24
we2byI typed smb://10.0.0.5/smb in nautilus02:24
ninwaNope, I use mplayer.02:24
kong0i have a laptop so..02:24
Octaneninwa, but kaffeine uses xine02:25
Lafitte-Octane,  yes mine tacks when i play movies02:25
kong0i dont even have mouse02:25
we2byit says destination not found or folder deleted02:25
Danarkong0, yeh, the scroll wheel is also a button. if you don't have one, then both buttons at the same time should do it02:25
kong0ibm t4002:25
OctaneLafitte-, tacks?02:25
Jesse1kong0, you can right click then push paste02:25
ThE__OnEhow can i reinstall ubuntu to its original state02:25
we2byLafitte-, any idea?02:25
Danarheh02:25
Jesse1ThE__OnE, formate and reinstall02:25
kong0well should i copy it all at once?02:25
Lafitte-Octane,  how do you describe a screen that pauses randomly while watching it ?02:25
Jesse1kong0, depends on what your copying02:25
Danarkong0, copy all what? i just told you how to copy commands...02:25
ThE__OnEwhen i try to go the insall again it says that some error like dlete my drive, but i already deleted it02:25
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ThE__OnEhow do if format02:26
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Danar(for commands)02:26
ThE__OnEhow do i format02:26
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Danarkong0, seriously, it shouldn't be to difficult to follow the instructions. just read carefully, and copy & paste the commands so you don't make mistakes02:27
Lafitte-Octane,  maybe the term skips   but i think it is the software glitch  not hardware02:27
kong0well i paste the commands press enter and nothing happens02:27
OctaneLafitte-, i dunno, my kaffeine just crashes, i cant get shit to play in xine and xine-engine in amarok also crashes02:28
Danarkong0, where'd you paste it?02:28
kong0in terminal02:28
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Lafitte-Octane,  oh  mine doesnt crash   mine ust per say skips/tacks  however you say it02:29
Danarkong0, are you sure it's supposed to have any output?02:29
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robertjanyone here have any suggestions on a no-fuss reasonably light laptop with a good display that won't break the bank?02:29
kong0hmmm output? u mean effects? i dont know02:29
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kong0im taking one line at a time02:30
OctaneLafitte-, i think my issue may be a sound issue02:30
robertjI looked at Office Depot's $500 machine, and its a pretty good deal, but I couldn't find squat about user experiences and the display wasn't great and I would have had to up the memory myself02:30
Danarkong0, no, i mean output. it can have effects without output02:31
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Danar'it' being a command02:31
Octaneman ubuntu is so much bette rthan fedora02:31
Octanenot as many newbies02:31
Octaneand at least the ubuntu newbies are not totally retarded02:32
Octane(myself including)02:32
Octaneincluded*02:32
Jesse1kong0, just keep going untill you finsih all the commands and if you followed the correctly it will work02:32
kong0alright02:32
kong0its an awful lot of cammands thou02:33
Jesse1kong0, well it needs them for a reason02:33
Danarwell, gl. i'm out02:33
kong0would it do any difference if i type them in the root terminal?02:33
robertjOctane: actually, the Ubuntu newbies are probably not able to IRC02:34
Octaneanyone here successfully install wine lately on an amd64 box02:34
Octanerobertj, lol02:34
robertjAnyone buy a laptop recently that they are happy with?02:34
ninwaLaptops are too pricey for me to be happy with any of them.02:35
Jesse1kong0, what are u putting in to the terminal?02:35
ninwaThat plus the inability to customize makes me squeemish.02:35
Octanerobertj, Dell's are great02:35
robertjninwa: They had a decent one for $500 today at Office Depot02:35
ninwaI wonder what the specs were.02:35
robertjOctane: I'm sellling my Dell tomorrow, tis been good but its aging02:35
Octaneanyone here have a palm pilot they're happy with that works with Kontact02:35
robertjninwa: 1.4 gig Celeron with 256 megs of ram, DVD/CDRW and internal A/b/g02:35
robertjmaybe just b/g, can't remember02:35
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robertjbut the display wasn't great, and I couldn't find out from anyone wether mobile celeron supported speed steppign02:36
Danarkong0, here's a tip. ubuntu is based on debian, so if it says something should work for debian, it'll prolly work for ubuntu as well02:36
ninwaif only it were 512 mb of RAM it'd be a good steal I think02:36
concept10Octane, I had it work with Kontact before02:36
robertjalso it had a bajillion mail in rebates02:36
ThE__OnEhow do i format02:36
Danarjust read the pages. gl02:36
Danarnite02:36
Octaneconcept10, which one02:36
CarlKkismet problem: http://rafb.net/paste/results/BLuNOB36.html02:36
concept10Octane Palm Tungsten E02:36
Jesse1ThE__OnE, do you have a windows xp cd?02:36
ThE__OnEyes02:37
ThE__OnEi haev to format therough there?02:37
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Jesse1ThE__OnE, well thats the easyest way to do it02:37
ThE__OnEi cant do it from ubuntu?02:37
ThE__OnEhmm02:37
scottof the services like itunes music styore, which works in linux?02:37
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Jesse1ThE__OnE, you cant formate i drive your currently using02:37
concept10Octane, well just buy me the ipod and get something else for yourself02:38
OctaneLOL02:38
Octanemy frend got an m:robe02:38
Lafitte-how do i kill mplayer if it is locked up ?02:38
Octanethe olympus one02:38
Jesse1Lafitte-, killall esd02:38
concept10bbl, going to get some food02:39
ThE__OnEi know that, i mean cant you do a comand for it to format when it reboots02:39
scottOctane: any good? I like the simplicity of the ipod02:39
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Lafitte-Jesse1,  doesnt take the screens away02:39
Octanescott, its really attractive, its pretty usable, but i think the ipod still wins.02:39
Octanei only saw the m:robe camera version02:39
Octanenot the smaller one02:39
robertjOctane: I recommend the shuffle to most everyone02:39
Lafitte-how do i see the running process ?02:39
robertjmy sister bought one today. She was looking at armbands for her older rev iPod so she could go to the gym and I was like "Don't do that."02:40
Octanerobertj, one of my coworkers got it the other day, i helped her with it and she was jubilant02:40
Octaneits nice02:40
robertjIt's the only piece of iCrap that I think is worth the money02:40
Octanebut too little space for me02:40
Jesse1Lafitte-,  killall -i i think02:40
robertjthat and the iBooks are good notebooks if a bit pricey02:40
Jesse1no killall -l02:40
Octanei have lots of audio books and The Teaching Company lecture s-- thats why i want an mp3 player02:40
scottso no recommendations on a music store that works in linux?02:41
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Octanescott, torrents :)02:42
Octane:X02:42
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robertjscott: or better yet, any recommendations on a p2p client with gaim integration?02:42
Octanewith gaim integration? no such thing02:42
Octanewho uses p2p networks anymore? torrents are the way to go imo02:43
robertjDoes gnutella2 offer any way to password protect entry onto a p2p net?02:43
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magogtorents are bad...copyright infringement gives BT a bad name...and we all know for legal distribution like linux iso's BT is great02:43
ninwaOctane, I use gtk-gnutella quite a bit.02:43
robertjI want to have a private net for me and my friends to do private business on.02:43
ninwaTorrents are great for large files though, like videos02:43
ninwawww.systm.org02:43
ninwadistributes its videos via BT02:43
BrianHHHi, everyone.  Can someone tell me the repository to get xchat-2.4.3 off of?02:44
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robertjBrianHH: what do you need an xchat upgrade for?02:44
magogwhat does it have new in 2.4.3?02:44
robertjjust curious02:44
ninwaBrianHH, You'll probably have to get it from the website.02:44
ninwaThe repositories maintain stable releases, not bleeding edge :)02:44
BrianHHrobertj:  I just wanted to upgrade is all.  :)  I tried compiling from source on the xchat site, but I'm getting too many compiling errors.  I thought I'd make life easy on myself by having synaptic take care of the dependencies.02:45
robertjBrianHH: I think you can apt-get install build-deps xchat or something like that02:46
robertjor maybe its apt-src with build-deps02:46
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BrianHHrobertj: Cool.  Which depository do I need for that?  apt-get from the depositories I have listed only gives me 2.4.1.02:46
kong0lol well all that crap didnt work and now im pissed02:47
robertjBrian: well get the depts for 2.4.1 and then see if 2.4.3 will compile cleanly02:47
CarlKwhat would cause my IP to go away?02:47
robertjapt-get build-dep xchat should be a good start02:47
robertjCarlK: Your ISP lease could be up?02:47
CarlKas in, ifconfig doesn't show an IP, and suddenly I can't ping the AP02:47
Octaneare there lots of kubuntu users in here02:47
robertjCarlK: crappy AP firmware?02:47
CarlKrobertj, "renewal in 281365 seconds."  but it happens after about 500 secconds02:48
BrianHHrobertj:  Okay, thanks. :)02:48
CarlKrobertj, and my local IP shouldn't go away, right?02:48
Octaneim so glad i got my dma working, it took me a whole day to copy 10gb locally the other day02:48
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robertjCarlK: well if your access point is going bye bye who knows02:48
minkymeowIn gnome for some reason I can only use one screen resolution...how do I fix this?02:49
CarlKrobertj, even if the AP goes, I think I should still have an IP02:49
robertjCarlK: well if its also the router it wont do you much good02:49
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robertjmaybe its killing your lease before it goes boom02:50
kong0how do you start wine?02:50
CarlKrobertj, there is no "kill lease"02:50
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Octanekong0, people like me cant even got wine compiled -- dont rub it in02:50
robertjCarlK: I dunno the spec at all, so thats just my guess02:50
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CarlK(i spend a bit of time on a dhcp server mail list - that comes up often "how to I force all the clients to renew?"02:51
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minkymeowIn gnome for some reason I can only use one screen resolution...how do I fix this?02:51
kong0well i havent installed it(only in synaptics windoer if it will work...) so i just wanna know how to start..02:51
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robertjhrmm, have you checked your logs?02:51
minkymeowit only runs at 1024*768 can't go higher or lower.....whats the deal02:51
CarlKyup the only thing in dmesg is "eth1: no IPv6 routers present" everythime I run ifup02:52
robertjminkeymeow: is this a laptop, desktop LCD, or desktop CRT02:52
robertjcan you assign it a static address without problems?02:52
OctaneWhere is the Isle of Man02:52
CarlKoohh.. good idea02:52
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CarlKnothing in /var/log/messages02:52
CarlKill try static02:53
minkymeowlaptop02:53
minkymeowwith a wider than normal screen02:53
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sonwhat does usermode +w do?02:53
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sonwhat does usermode +w do?02:54
thenukeson: what does man chmod do?02:54
sonuhhh.... i dunno02:55
thenukeor did I mix something up. I guess I dod.02:55
ubuntu_thenuke, chmod changes file permisons and other stuff02:55
sondo you know what usermode +w does?02:55
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sondo you know what usermode +w does?02:55
minkymeowI tried fedora a while back and it allowed me to select my monitor and I had a choice of a variety of resolutions....here I only have one...at least according the the thing in gnome02:55
thenukeson: what does google tell you about that02:56
songoogle...???02:56
Octaneugh02:56
Octanesomeone ban that dude02:56
sonwhat is google?02:56
sonanyone?02:56
thenukeson: http://www.google.com02:56
sonoh ok02:56
kong0does tvout work in ubuntu? native i mean...02:57
bleakedson: you're not serious?02:57
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kong0tv.out02:57
ubuntu_kong0, you probably have to install something02:58
Octanekong0, depedns on your card, you probably need either ivtv or bttv02:58
ubuntu_son, google is a search engine02:58
kestaswhy is it that when I mount an smb drive with fstab it gets shown in nautilus, but when I mount an nfs drive in fstab I need to go to /mnt manually?02:58
kong0thats lame02:59
nlghtcrawler-linafteafter unpack smeg, how do i run it, if its not in the menu?02:59
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kong0should i install ati drivers?(i have ati)02:59
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ubuntu_son, if you dont know what google is i suggest you go back to windows02:59
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ubuntu_hurray i timed out02:59
nlghtcrawler-linr u talking to me?02:59
ubuntu_whats the command to change nick?02:59
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thr1ce /nick03:00
nlghtcrawler-linumm..... and ur telling me to go back to windows....03:00
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nlghtcrawler-linANYWAY...03:00
nlghtcrawler-lincan someone help me?03:00
Jesse1thr1ce, thought so03:00
thr1ce:)03:00
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Jesse1nlghtcrawler-lin, no im telling son to go back to windows03:00
kong0wich is better, ivtv or bttv?03:01
nlghtcrawler-linoh, ok sorry :P03:01
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nlghtcrawleranyway, does someonw know how?03:01
Jesse1nlghtcrawler, try going to run and type smeg03:01
carlpretty sure my static IP just disapeared - ill have to wait another 500 seconds to check ifconfig03:01
kong0no answer03:01
Jesse1kong0, i have no idea ive never used them03:02
Jesse1kong0, try both and see which one you like03:02
robertjcarl: lsmod|grep net?03:02
nlghtcrawleri've done that....03:02
kong0hmm do you think i can use tv-out without additional software?03:02
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Jesse1no even on windows you need aditional software (that comes with the drivers on windows)03:03
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Jesse1nlghtcrawler, nothing come up u installed it properly?03:03
nlghtcrawlerya03:04
Jesse1nlghtcrawler, you refresh the gnomepanel?03:04
nlghtcrawlerall it did, is say "setting up smeg (0.5-Oubuntul) .. then thats it03:04
carlrobertj, # lsmod|grep net - nothing (even when my connection is up)03:04
kong0man i would really dislike triggy installations...03:04
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nlghtcrawlerya update-menus03:05
nlghtcrawlerright?03:05
nlghtcrawleror killall gnome-panel03:05
Danarfor some reason i can't synch my time...03:05
carland my connection just bouneced, no IP durring the outage03:05
Danarroot@ubuntu:~ # ntpdate ca.pool.ntp.org03:05
Danar20 Jun 21:04:03 ntpdate[3562] : the NTP socket is in use, exiting03:05
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nlghtcrawlerno03:06
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nlghtcrawlerbbl03:06
Jesse1well im goin cya's03:07
bleakedwow..03:08
Octaneanyone know wha tports I have to add to my fiewall for samba?03:08
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LlanowynHello everyone :)03:08
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anto9usOctane: I believe 137, 138 and 139 tcp and udp03:09
iLLf8dOctane: cat /etc/services | grep netbios03:09
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Octanethanks iLLf8d , anto9us03:10
Octaneand what about for mail?03:10
Octanebecause i only get mail when i turn off guarddog03:10
iLLf8dservices again03:10
iLLf8dyou may wanna less the file and take a look03:10
Octanepop3 ?03:10
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Octanegot it03:10
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iLLf8dthat and smtp probably03:10
anto9usOctane: smtp is 25 and pop is 11003:10
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Danark, i synchronized my time and now it's wrong, even though i set the right time zone... wtf?03:11
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Octaneguarddog could use some usability fies03:11
Octanefixes*03:11
robertjFrys was a dissapointment for me though, it had a good selection and prices were okay if you were in a rush, but the help-staff seemed as useless as ever03:11
heebieHi. Is anyone here running an amd64 system with dual-monitors on nVidia FX 5700 video?03:11
robertjWe just got our Frys last year, and its kinda...not run well03:11
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vinuxhello all. My ubuntu Family :)03:13
heebieHas anyone gotten Java plugins running in amd64 ubuntu?03:13
anto9usvinux: can I have some pocket money?03:14
vinuxanto9us, hehe you not that close of family :)03:14
anto9usworth a try :)03:14
iLLf8drobertj, how can frys be a disappointment you jest!03:14
vinuxanto9us, now get in there an clean your room or your grounded03:15
LlanowynSo i'm kinda new here, and i'm going to migrate over from windows.  I was wondering what I should be backing up and what kind of stuff won't be useful.  Can anyone help me out with that?03:15
anto9usvinux: then can I have some pocket money?03:15
absinthe_osHow can I completely remove ipv6 functionality from Ubuntu?03:15
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iLLf8dfrys is an electronics mecca!03:15
heebieLlanowyn: Anything that is "user data" you should keep.03:15
vinuxanto9us, well ok here take this dollar and go buy you something :)03:16
benplautiLLf8d: nah... i'll stick with Newegg and Zipzoomfly :)03:16
anto9usLlanowyn: back up everything that you'd hate to lose but you can install ubuntu and still leave windows on your system. Provided you have enough disk space03:16
GNULinuxerabsinthe_os> yes03:16
iLLf8dbenplaut, and you'll pay for it too03:17
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GNULinuxerabsinthe_os> recompile kernel without IPv6 support03:17
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iLLf8dbenplaut, tho I do like newegg also03:17
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absinthe_osGNULinuxer, no "off" switch?03:17
benplautiLLf8d: in hawaii, it costs more to fl to the nearest Frys then for shipping on Newegg (but only slightly...)03:17
anto9usvinux: they don't take dollars where I live, can't I just borrow your credit card instead?03:18
HablandocontigoI'm trying to install Unreal Tournament but I get: sudo sh ut-install-436.run Verifying archive integrity...OK03:18
HablandocontigoUncompressing Unreal Tournament version 436 Linux installtrap: usage: trap [-lp]  [arg signal_spec ...] 03:18
Hablandocontigowhat could be the error?03:18
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LlanowynWell, i've gone through a ritual of formatting / reinstalling every few months or so.  This time I want to give something different a try. Thanks Heebie & Anto9us.  Also any tips would be greately appreciated.03:19
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kong0do i need anti virus programm?03:20
magogLlanowyn, youll find you wont need to reformatt all the time like in windows03:20
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scorpixkoma, no03:20
vinuxanto9us, sure here let me  type it in here for you. But dont' let the other people see. 5555-5555-yeah-right.03:20
john__question03:20
scorpixkong0, no03:20
robertjLlanowyn: You shouldn't have to reformat windows every few months03:20
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anto9uskong0: not generally needed on linux, it's handy if for windows disk and network filesystems that you might connect to though03:21
robertjI format yearly whenever I upgrade hardware, but otehr than that I don't have any problems03:21
absinthe_osI have installed enemy territory how do "uninstall" it?03:21
maerobertj: if you are 90 percent of the populace that uses windows you "should" but don't know how :)03:21
john__if I use sudo gedit to open xorg.conf, shouldn't I be able to save the changes?03:21
Llanowynyea, I know, but I have a tendency to lose my free space03:21
kong0when i had windows (2 days ago) i got viruse03:21
kong0all the time03:21
robertjand if you can't make windows work for you, you aint got much chance with Linux unless its maanged by sommeone else03:21
anto9usjohn__: yes03:21
kong0wow its getting late...problably should go to bed03:22
DanielCHello. Should I be concerned that the package I want to install "cannot be authenticated" ? All the servers in sources.list are from ubuntu.com.03:22
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robertjAll you have to do is do the stupid windows update03:22
john__it's not letting me...03:22
kong0danielC thats nothing to worry about03:22
kong0just install03:22
DanielCkong0: Thanks. What does it mean?03:22
kong0igt means some ppl who made it didnt subscribe the info03:23
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DanielCOk.03:23
anto9usjohn__: what does it say to you?03:23
DanielCkong0: Thanks for the help.03:23
kong0np03:23
Danarkong0, if you have a windows partition (like if you dual-boot) you might want to be able to scan it for viruses from linux. in that case install clamav03:23
john__Could not save the file "/etc/x11/xorg.conf"03:23
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john__(that's the precise msg it's showing me)03:24
kong0nah only have windoes on my other computer...could virus sneak in thru our shared network?03:24
maerobertj: you put someone on linux vs windows .. a complete beginner, with broadband internet.. the windows user will accumulate malware/spyware if they download stuff.. or just by using ie.  on linux, even if there is security exploits, your running in your underpriv'd user jail.. software can't mess with anything but your per-user setup. if it gets messed up all you have to do is rm -rf ~/ && rm -rf ~/.*03:24
benplautjohn__: opened as Read-Only?03:24
Danarkong0, you wouldn't get a windows virus on linux03:24
kong0nice03:24
john__i used this to open it:  sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf03:25
kong0maybe i should statrt work out a bit..03:25
benplautjohn__: check that it's not open anywhere else03:25
robertjmae: You can just give them an unpriveleged account on XP as well03:25
robertjmy dad has an unpriveleged account he uses and only uses the Admin account to play his games03:26
john__if i'm in x, is it open?03:26
anto9usjohn__: it's sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:26
maerobertj: this is true, but it is not the default setup, also, _much_ windows software is badly designed and assumes administrator access and will choke otherwise.03:26
kong0im starting to get the shape of barbapappa....03:26
vinuxmae, what does rm -rf ~/ && rm -rf ~/.* do?03:26
john__ahhhhhhhhh  case-sensitive (slaps forehead)03:26
robertjmae: well by default, your average user in Linux doesn't have a chance to do what vinux just said03:26
benplautqnto9us: nice catch on the caps ;)03:26
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anto9us:)03:27
Danarvinux, that would remove everything in your home dir03:27
Quest-Mastervinux: Delete everything in the home directory ..03:27
maerobertj: your average windows user has even less of a chance to reformat and reinstall all the drivers..03:27
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robertjAnd also by default, Windows now does security updates by default whereas XP does not03:27
kestasit would delete the home directory itself03:27
kong0well  im off to watch some hentai03:27
kestasnot everything in it03:27
kong0gl all cya03:27
robertjmae: err whereas Ubuntu does not do security updates by default03:27
Danarthat too03:27
john__that was it - thanks03:27
vinuxrobertj, can you get security updates manually though?03:28
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maerobertj: the largest security risk is an inexperienced pc user.. and 90 percent of that problem is eliminated in linux because any programs that run have limited access.03:28
robertjmae: or because there aren't any programs that most users would want to run03:29
Danarmae, and that last 10% is amplified by people running things as root :p03:29
robertjit doesn't matter if they are running a root or not03:29
robertjit just means that malware authors will ask for the root password and people will enter it03:29
maerobertj: this is mainly because most software is written for windows, has nothing to do with the viability.. for my example lets just assume the correct software is available.. linux was designed far better for security that windows xp was..03:30
Guerinrobertj: yes, it does. If a box is rooted, you have to reinstall from scratch. If only a local user is compromised, you only need to nuke that user and restore from backup.03:30
Guerinrobertj: oh, i see.03:30
zythsadly, robertj is right.  lol03:31
robertjGuerin: real users dont understand. If Acrobat asks for a password to intsall, and they enter the password, they get positive reinforcement in the form of a working PDF reader03:31
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vinuxmae, although when I was new to slackware I thought I would install a firewall. But it went very wrong when I didn't read the info files and I installed a firewall system that plays like a linux system so it wiped out my system files lol. I'm sure you know what happened then..... Reinstall baby! Stupid me03:31
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robertjGuerin: and truthfully, to any _real_ user, for someone who really has alot to lose, the home directory is everything03:31
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robertjWhats in my home directory? A 6 gig wedding video, half a dozen cvs checkouts, some various side projects, and some personal writings. I can always reinstall whatever OS, but if that stuff is gone I'd cry.03:32
zythThe issue is not so much which OS as user education.03:32
robertjI've got it all backed up, because I don't want to cry03:32
robertjBut for most people, they might have a CD "somewhere" with some documents from "a while ago"03:32
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rcec52Is there a Linux app that will back up everything and let your burn it to cd?03:33
robertjthats their backup, but it almost doesn't include their notepad .txt file that they keep the house budget in03:33
zythrcec52, yep03:33
rcec52What's it called?03:33
zythstarts with an m... er, I can't recall the name03:33
rcec52That helps>03:33
john__how do i restart X without rebooting?03:33
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anto9usjohn__: ctrl-alt-backspace03:33
robitaillercec52,   mondo03:34
zythMondo03:34
maerobertj: the same backing up would be required in windows, obviously nothing is perfect;  I am merely arguing that an inexperienced user has a much better chance of keeping a linux system intact than a windows one.. now they may not be able to get the programs they need i.e. because they are used to downloading and easily installing programs like on windows.. but that isn't relevant to my point.03:34
kong0WTF!! i acnt play vidoes anymore!!!03:34
zythfound it in syunaptic03:34
rcec52Thankyou. . .03:34
robertjmae: I just think the difference is negligible unless they click on virus-attachments. Windows Update does a good job these days03:34
robertjnot perfect, but good enough for 99.9% of the people03:34
maerobertj: i used to work at a pc store and we made some money from selling computers and computer parts but like 75 percent of our income was service and probably 60 percent of that income was os reformatting of windows03:35
rcec52Is it possible to set up Ubuntu on one hard drive and Kubuntu on another and access either from the same Grub menu?03:35
vinuxmae, I agree I mean who can keep a windows system intact anyways?03:35
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zythvinux, me03:35
robertjmae: yeah, but thats going to go away as those machines are replaced with machines running SP203:35
kong0what tf could be wrong!?!?03:35
maevinux: i can, but i know what i'm doing03:35
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robertjYou will still have some spyware, but Microsoft Antispyware aint a bad product and its free03:35
thenukercec52: it's a bit more convenient to install gnome and kde to the very same ubuntu on the one partition :)03:35
vinuxzyth, mae well I guess that's an answer :)03:36
maerobertj: sp2 fixed some but malware still circumvents that.. the problem was reduced, but not anywhere near eliminated03:36
rcec52Ok that answers that question. . . .thanks.03:36
anto9usI think the biggest issue with windows vs linux security is that most linux software is open to peer review03:36
robertjmae: it doesn't need to be totally eleminated. It just needs to calm itself down so that we dont' see infection-rates like we were before03:36
d0rtno slapd in hoary?03:36
_nate_is there a way to make the background recognize your side/bottom/top bars as the desktop border?03:37
robertjd0rt: have you checked universe?03:37
d0rtor is there a differently named package to install an ldap server?03:37
robertjopenldap-server maybe?03:37
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d0rtnevermind03:37
d0rtslapd is there03:37
robertjwehe03:37
_nate_anyone?03:38
rcec52Will Gnome ever see the popularity that KDE has? I'm running it right now and it's pretty good. I do prefer KDE though. ..03:38
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rob^rcec52, whats your point exactly?03:38
kong0what should i do when avis where all laggy!?!? install xine something...03:38
vinuxrcec52, kde is really nice but now i'm giving gnome a shot. so far I like it and it works for me03:38
zythkong0, are you using mplayer?03:38
rcec52I guess I'm wondering what the percentage of people like KDE over Gnome. . .03:39
robitaillercec52,  yes...Gnome's own goal for the future is: http://live.gnome.org/10x1003:39
rcec52What's that all about?03:39
kong0i never got mplayer workign i use totem03:39
Llanowynoh yeah, when I install, is ubuntu going to set me up with gnome or kde, or both, or none?03:40
HrdwrBoBrcec52: more people use gnome than KDE, sorry to burst your bubble03:40
HrdwrBoBLlanowyn: GNOEM03:40
Llanowynty hrdwrbob :)03:40
HrdwrBoBGNOME03:40
HrdwrBoBkde is kubuntu03:40
robitaillercec52,  I think it's currently 2/3 - 1/3 KDE vs Gnome (not sure where I heard these numbers...)03:40
rcec52No offense. . . it just seems like KDE has more software developers working in their favor. . .03:40
zythkong0, sudo apt-get install totem-xine03:40
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robitaillercec52,  Gnome want to be on 10% of the desktop computers by 2010.03:40
robertjI sold my laptop and my desktop on the same day so I gotta find me another machine fast03:41
Guerinrobertj: i have one word, which starts with b and ends with ackups03:41
robertjGuerin: I have nightly backups over SSH to my parents house, so I'm not concerned, but most people don't have that03:41
DarkfusionI prefer GNOME to KDE. It just seems cleaner, less cluttered03:41
kong0what if i use mplayer then?03:41
Guerinrobertj: anyone who cares should.03:41
Darkfusionbut I use XFCE even more so I'm biased to being lightweight03:41
robertjDark: Mainly I like Gnome because of the bang-up job they are doing at FDO03:41
robitaillercec52,  but at the end of the day, the important point is which one you prefer.  Personally I prefer Gnome..others prefer KDE.  others another one.  It's all about freedom of choice.03:41
anto9usI think opensolaris will help that goal see fruition before 201003:41
HrdwrBoBrcec52: mm.03:41
kong0sudo apt-get install mplayer-xine?03:41
zythkong0, set your vo to SDL, uses less CPU03:41
zythhuh no03:41
zythwtf?03:41
HrdwrBoBanto9us: open solaris? haha03:42
robertjGuerin: someone might, some people are actually sociable03:42
Guerinrobertj: ?03:42
robertjGuerin: and other people might be interested in buying Ubuntu-friendly hardware03:42
kong0zyth: where?03:42
vinuxrobertj, what's FDO?03:42
rcec52I'm starting to see what people are saying about Gnome. .  .it is less cluttered and seems more streamline.03:42
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robertjvinux: freedesktop.org03:42
vinuxrobertj, oh ok03:42
zythkong0, man you lost me.  What media player are you using? Totem or Mplayer?03:42
robertjvinux: Avahi is sweet :)03:43
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rcec52I'm running Kubuntu (KDE) and Ubuntu (Gnome) on one hard drive and Mepis Linux on another. .. right now.03:44
anto9usHrdwrBoB: I think it's a very wise move by Sun to open it up03:44
robertjvinux: it's Bonjour/Rendezvous/Zeroconf but GPL03:44
robertjanto: I think its good too, but probably not gonna make a whole lot of difference03:44
LlanowynAre there major differences in kubuntu and ubuntu asides from kde/gnome?03:44
vinuxrobertj, hmmm sounds interesting03:44
robertjmy bet is that it will be a boon for people who use Solaris Express for research but other than that it won't bring in much blood after the initial "gee-whiz" boom is over03:44
kong0i use totem but only because mplayer doesnt work03:44
zythrcec52, why on earth are you running three linux distros?03:45
kong0zyth03:45
rcec52Very carefully. ...not all running at the same instance though. . .03:45
zythkong0, if you are using totem, install totem-xine.  If you want to use mplayer, you will need to read the mplayer manpage ('man mplayer') and read about how to edit your config file to specify video and audio output03:45
kong0i have installed totem xine and when i start a movie nothing happens...03:46
rcec52I'm messing around with differnt distro's to see how they all compare. . .I had Debian on my system the other day. .. a disapointment03:46
kong0im really going crazy here'03:46
zythkong0, do you have the win32codecs installed?03:46
kong0yes03:46
vinuxkong0, I'm using mplayer to play streaming video and using totem-xine to play dvds03:46
zythand have you tried other videos, to make sure it's not just that video?03:46
kong0mplayer doesnt work at all for me...03:47
Darkfusionvinux: try VLC?03:47
vinuxDarkfusion, nope never heard of it03:47
kong0no way man03:47
rcec52Mplayer works better than Totem I think. ...03:47
LlanowynVLC seems to work for me, plays just about everything03:47
anto9usrobertj: the next few years are going to be very interesting, this is the decade that open source makes its biggest impact on the desktop in my vew03:47
kong0it doesnt work at all i know03:47
kong0when i start an avi file in mplayer the prgrams loads and then freeze i cant even shut it down ffs03:48
vinuxkong0, did you install the codecs?03:48
kong0i have ALL codecs03:48
rcec52This open source software is the greatest thing since 'Mom's apple Pie'. ...I hate Windoze and the software monopoly it has created. . .03:48
kong0totem doesnt even load when i start the movie thats the wierd part03:48
robertjanto: I want a big impact on the laptop world ;)03:48
vinuxkong0, oh did you change you mplayer config file to use xv instead of the other option?03:49
robertjI'm scouring the wiki seeing if there are any well-behaved machines in my pricerange03:49
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kong0i dont know where to do that03:49
vinuxkong0, one second03:49
zyththat'd be an issue.03:49
zythprobably in ~/.mplayer/config03:49
zythman mplayer03:49
zythit will enlighten you.03:49
anto9usrobertj: me too, would be nice if my inspiron 9100 would go to sleep and wake up nicely03:49
kong0its ten to 4 am here(in sweden)03:50
zythanto9us, what's the point of using sleep with notebooks?03:50
zythI've never figured that one out.03:50
robertjI want ACPI support that does both disk and ram and has speed stepping and internal wifi all working without costing a bajillion dollars03:50
vinuxkong0, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer <--- check this out03:50
anto9uszyth: not having to reboot between home and work03:50
zythrobertj, sub300.com ?03:50
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zythanto9us, eh, I guess I'm just innured to boot-times.03:50
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rcec52Anybody using 64 bit Linux software out here with an AMD processor?03:50
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ja32768zyth:  so you never have to boot.  Just close the thing and stick it in your bag.  8 hours later, open it, and presto - right where you left off.03:50
zythyeah, never saw the point in that ja32768 ;) it's not like my network connections stay up, so eh03:51
robertjit works rather well here in OS X03:51
zythto each their own I guess03:51
robertjXchat does it's thing and I'm back on IRC a second after the lid is open03:52
ja32768I guess when your OS boots very fast, it doesn't much matter.03:52
zythI want an old g3 ibook to try this 'os x' on03:52
robertjzyth: I've got a 900mhz G3 with 768 megs of ram and its very usable03:52
zythja32768, yeah, that's the thing, usually I plop down the notebook, turn it on, and by the time I've got my ac adapter and mouse plugged in, I'm good to go anyways03:52
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zythrobertj, my problem is cost on ibooks.. even old used ones are wayyy too costly.03:53
robertjzyth: mac users are tards for the most part03:53
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DarkfusionI have an eMac, I'd love an ibook. I also love OS X03:53
robertjzyth: Macs that are half the price of minis still go for hundreds more03:54
robertjDark: sell it on ebay and see if you can get a Mini03:54
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zythwhich is insane ;)03:54
vinuxAre Minis cool?03:54
robertjVinux: very, and fast, and cheap, and have standard connectors03:54
robertjand they are quiet03:54
DarkfusionApple is switching to Intel anyway. Can't wait for OS X on cheaper hardware, probably won't happen though03:54
kong0sry vinux still dont work03:54
vinuxrobertj, so even with 256mb ram they are fast?03:54
kong0as lame bad irritating windoes tempting as b403:55
zythvinux, from what I hear, you'll want 51203:55
kong0im reallt started to get angry here03:55
zythvinux, cause you need 512 to run WoW decently on a Mac Mini ;)03:55
kong0'IT SHOULD WORK DOG DMN IT"!!!!03:55
robertjvinux: umm no, you wanna upgrade that03:55
kong0***** ** ***** ***** ************** ********************03:55
rcec52Any programmer's here? If so what app is a good one to begin with with all the bells and whistles?03:55
robertjand get the university discount, they don't check it03:55
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kong0fuck this shit im going windows03:56
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zythI fail to see why he didn't just read the manpage...03:56
robertjzyth: maybe he has better things to do03:57
vinuxzyth, because he has no patients . He's probably a windows lover at heart :)03:57
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robertjI'm highly motivated to learn about Linux because I am reasonably well compensated for it and have a great deal of flexibility in my work schedule03:57
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cpayani'm having immense amounts of trouble, at least for what i'm doing, trying to install an icon theme... is there somewhere i could go to find out how, i've been searching all over i know where03:57
anto9uszyth: because he's used to getting things solved by getting angry and swearing at people03:57
rcec52It's good to learn something new also. . ..03:57
zythI am studying for my Linux+ certification, so this is 'educational' ;)03:57
robertjmost people aren't and will never save enough money to make up their lost time03:57
Llanowynhaha, typical consumer03:57
Quest-Masterrofl @ kong003:58
vinuxrobertj, so 512 ram is good for mini?03:58
zythvinux, yep03:58
robertjvinux: good for most people03:58
Llanowyn"getting things solved by getting angry and swearing at people"03:58
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Octanewhen's breezy gonna be out03:58
ja32768rec52 - what you mean by "app"?03:58
zythcpayan, gnome-look.org has some docs on it I think03:58
robitailleOctane,  October03:58
robertjI've got a Dual proc G5 with 2 gigs of ram at work so I don't exactly know how it holds up under intensive use03:58
cpayanok thanks03:58
rcec52I hear in October. ..for breezy03:58
Octanewow03:58
robertjI lived with a Single G5 600 with 512 for a while and it was tolerable for some things, but not fun by any means03:58
vinuxrobertj, mini macs use 64bit right?03:58
robertjso I knnow the 1.25 Ghz has to be alot better03:58
Octaneso basically if you want a new version of an app, you need to build it yourself, right03:58
robertjvinux: no, its a G403:58
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Llanowynis the update to the newest release an easy one?03:59
zythLlanowyn, define 'newest release', you mean warty --> hoary?03:59
vinuxrobertj, oh it's the G5 that is right?03:59
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robertjthe G5 is only in teh iMac and powermac line03:59
robertjnot the mini, emac, or any of the notebooks03:59
Llanowynzyth- ya04:00
zythLlanowyn, as far as I know, it's easy, but I haven't done it myself.04:00
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Llanowynis there an easy way to do that, or would I have to download the install cd again?04:00
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robertjLlanowyn: you can use Synaptic to upgrade04:00
robertjLlanowyn: but it takes a bit of doing04:01
Darkfusionapt-get dist-upgrade should work04:01
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rcec52This synaptic or apt-get is really great stuff. . .04:01
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pureplayercan you burn with ubuntu?04:01
jf6someone can help me?04:01
robertjThe actual part that requires effort is to changing all the references to hoary to either stable or breezy04:01
Darkfusionyes, I use Gnomebaker to make CDs04:01
rcec52Yes you can burn ubuntu04:01
Llanowynseems easy enough, i'm trying to get as much info as possible before I go around formatting anything04:01
robitailleLlanowyn,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes04:01
CrustyPunkHey... any of you Linux-savvy folks able to give me a quick hand in writing a (I'd assume) small and easy shell script?04:01
jf6WHo can say to me04:02
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jf6if he heard the music04:02
rcec52Shell script for what?04:02
jf6on my web site04:02
jf6with FireFOX04:02
jf6http://jango6.free.fr04:02
pureplayerDarkfusion: where can i find that?04:02
CrustyPunkrcec52: I'm trying to make a script to cd into /usr/bin and run a game using Cadega04:03
pureplayerwhere do you find programs for ubuntu?04:03
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jf6So no one can help me??04:03
Darkfusionpure: I just search for Gnome Baker in Synaptic, don't know if you need universe or multiverse though, I have both04:03
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ja32768jf6:  you could boot the ubuntu live cd, and test it yourself.... or knoppix, or any other of about 100 live linux cds04:04
DarkfusionPure: In System > Administration you should have Synaptic Package Manager. Look for new programs, or packages in that04:04
rcec52Sorry I'm pretty new to this stuff myself. ..best to just ask questions and read up on the subject.04:04
jf6ja32768, i dont have plugins04:04
Mobiusanyone here use openbox instead of metacity?04:05
CrustyPunkrcec52: Yeah, I've been looking for tutorials... most are pretty useless as far as I can see04:05
rcec52Any Astronomy buffs in this group?04:05
jf6but the navigator04:05
robitaillejf6,  no music here04:05
jf6dont finc04:05
jf6thx robitaille04:05
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ja32768CrustyPunk - have you tried saving the commands you want to run in a text file, and just running that?04:05
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CrustyPunkja32768: Yeah, that's what I was hoping would work04:06
CrustyPunkcd /usr/bin/04:06
CrustyPunk./cedega /media/bigdrivewin/Diablo/diablo.exe04:06
AnObfuscatorhmmm. I need help, and I can't find a relevent support document...04:06
ja32768that works. Just make it executable with chmod +x yourfilehere04:06
robitaillejf6,   I thought "bgsound" was a IE html extension..04:06
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rcec52Any digital photography buffs in this group?04:06
jf6really?04:06
jf6ok04:06
jf6i will see04:06
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CrustyPunkja32768: Really? I chmod'd it and it didn't work04:06
AnObfuscatorI can't get my Airport (old airport, not brodcom version) to work under ubuntu...04:06
Llanowynrcec52 - amateur, not really a buff tho :-/04:07
ja32768CrustyPunk: it may be that the current directory is not in your path.  try running it as ./yourfile04:07
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vinuxrcec52, I"m a ubuntu newbie buff! Does that help? :P04:07
CrustyPunkja32768: Ah, there it goes.04:07
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Mobiusnobody here runnin' openbox?04:07
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cpayanzyth i'mnot seeing any docs at gnome-look.org04:07
robitaillejf6,  http://www.computing.net/webdevel/wwwboard/forum/1010.html04:07
jf6??04:08
anto9usrcec52: I wouldn't call myself a buff in either of those topics but I've known the answers to a few questions on tv quiz shows04:08
foxinessi want to use ubuntu like gateway to other pc how can i do that ? first one .55 and other one .99 and i put .55 like gateway to ubuntu but not work?04:08
CrustyPunkja32768: How would I be able to get it to run by double-clicking it and hitting the "run" button? As it stands now, I have to ./file in the console04:08
cpayanand the only docs at gnome are developer docs... not quite in the mood to make my own04:08
cpayanicons04:08
rcec52I was just thinking about the Linux software aspect to these two topics, 'Photography and Astronomy'04:08
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vinuxMobius, I tried openbox but man there was too much configuring in it with little support04:08
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anto9usrcec52: both are covered pretty well I think04:09
MobiusI agree vinux, but I am looking for something that is notably faster for my brand new notebook04:09
ja32768CrustyPunk:  Hm, I'm sure there's an easy way: right click a panel, use add to panel, custom application launcher...  maybe that works for you?04:09
vinuxMobius, fluxbox is good04:09
rcec52Anyone try 'Openunivere, Celestia, Skycharts on their systems?04:09
vinuxMobius, Xfce4 is too04:09
anto9usrcec52: I've played with celestia, very pretty :)04:09
Mobiuswhich do you reccomend vinux?04:10
Mobiusboth?04:10
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vinuxMobius, well if you aren't into reading alot to configure stuff try Xfce404:10
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rcec52Celestia is pretty good. Sky Charts is very intense and it is getting better especially for amateur astronomers. . .04:10
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foxinessis there source to read about gateway on ubuntu ?04:10
rcec52Anyone try Hugin? (for Digital Panorama Photography?)04:11
MobiusI will try it out vinux, thanks.04:11
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kikkomanhow do i install kubuntu?04:12
vinuxMobius, np I like it04:12
cpayani'm having immense amounts of trouble, at least for what i'm doing, trying to install an icon theme... is there somewhere i could go to find out how, i've been searching all over i know where04:12
rcec52Burn the Kubuntu Iso into a bootable disk install from Cdrom . .. pretty easy. . .04:12
vinuxMobius, works good. Doesn't take up alot of resources04:12
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cpayansince zyth doesn't seem to be here, i'll get a second opinion plz?04:12
kikkomanoh you can just use "apt-get" to get kubuntu?04:13
MobiusI am just looking to keep my notebook snappy vinux - I've read that the *box stuff is faster, so I was just looking around04:13
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rcec52It would be easier I think to use Synaptic instead of Apt-get to download and install Kubuntu.  ..04:14
Darkfusiondon't you just have do get kubuntu-desktop?04:14
vinuxMobius, yea openbox is this fastests I've seen but man, trying to configure the menu is hell04:14
Darkfusionapt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:14
anto9uscpayan: have you seen http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt_2fTutorials_2fIconThemes ?04:14
vinuxMobius, you have to learn a language to do it04:14
rcec52It's that easy?04:14
Mobiusand I wasnt too impressed with the themes vinux04:15
CrustyPunkja32768: Where would I need to put the script files so I'd be able to run them from any directory, without being in their specific one?04:15
ja32768CrustyPunk:  /usr/local/bin is probably the best place04:15
cpayanyea anto9us i have... it's about creating icon themes...04:15
ja32768it should be in your path:  echo $PATH04:15
CrustyPunkAh, I just had them in /bin04:15
cpayani just want to install one04:15
vinuxMobius, yea I would just go with Xfce404:15
anto9uscpayan: what about http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q4 ?04:16
ja32768CrustyPunk:  that would work, but it's bad form :)04:16
vinuxMobius, it's fast04:16
cpayanah04:16
cpayanno sir, i didn't04:16
cpayanthank you04:16
anto9us:)04:16
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vinuxMobius, I use gnome myself now04:17
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CrustyPunkja32768: Thanks for your help. =)04:17
ja32768yep!04:18
CrustyPunkja32768: I feel as though I gained 10-20 1337 points04:18
Darkfusionso are updated kernels available from ubuntu? 2.6.12 came out a few days ago, and I don't see it or any other 2.6 kernels available04:18
kikkomanhow do i get my ati radeon 9700 pro mobility to work?04:18
bob2kikkoman: it doesn't Just Work?04:18
vinuxDarkfusion, do you know the details of these updates? Should I worry?04:18
bob2Darkfusion: not in stable versions04:18
kikkomanit works but some screensavers are choppy i can't even play tux racer o_O04:19
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Darkfusionvinux, info about 2.6.12 is here04:20
Darkfusionhttp://kerneltrap.org/node/530804:20
bob2kikkoman: so, you want the binary drivers04:20
we2byany mp3 player for console  that support play list?04:20
anto9uskikkoman: you could install fglrx drivers but it broke acpi suspend on my inspiron 910004:20
vinuxDarkfusion, thanks04:20
bob2kikkoman: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:20
bob2we2by: cplay04:20
CrustyPunkja32768: Oi, I'm having another problem, but this time I know what it is.04:20
bob2vinux: Darkfusion note that any security fixes in that will already (or soon) be in the 2.6.10 kernel in hoary04:20
ja32768What's it not doing?04:20
kikkomanbob2: thanks04:20
CrustyPunkja32768: I can't run the scripts, because they point to where the game I'm trying to run is... on a NTFS partition that only root has access to. And I can't chown because it's a read-only drive.04:21
ja32768CrustyPunk:  Hm, you want different mount options.  Lemme go check man mount04:22
bob2ja32768: defaults,umount=00204:22
vinuxbob2, oh ok04:23
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ja32768CrustyPunk:  you want the option umask=022 or some such probably in your /etc/fstab04:23
ja32768for your ntfs partition04:23
CrustyPunkGotcha, thanks.04:23
ja32768Or maybe uid=(your user number), you could try that if the umask thing doesn't work04:24
bob2CrustyPunk: defaults,umask=002 is what you want04:24
cthulfuegobob2: goo'boy04:24
bob2hey, I can learn04:25
CrustyPunk/dev/hdb5       /media/bigdrivewin ntfs    defaults,umask=002 0       1 <--Like such in the fstab?04:26
bob2yes04:26
vinuxI'll be back later guys04:26
ja32768bob2:  not having ntfs, I don't know this - does ubuntu mount it read/write?04:27
hondjeEvenin'.  I'm getting my brother all ubuntufied, but 'someone' forgot to plug in the network cable to eth0, resulting in no automagical dhcp configuration.  Is there a voodoo script to make this all work out well?04:28
HrdwrBoBja32768: no.04:28
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bob2ja32768: no04:28
anto9ushondje: sudo dhclient eth004:28
bob2ja32768: linux can't (safely) write to ntfs without using captive-ntfs04:28
bob2hondje: or sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth004:29
ja32768Bob2 & HrdwrBob:  thanks; I though maybe I was missing something ;)04:29
hondjethanks, guys :)04:29
bob2(I'd recommend the latter, the former might end up with two copies of dhclient running, which is BAD)04:29
nalioth_wrknbob2 so captive ntfs is safe for writing?04:29
TokenBadis there a way to monitor a ftp that is set up on ubuntu?04:29
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bob2nalioth_wrkn: if "loading windows drivers into the kernel" is considered safe04:29
bob2TokenBad: monitor how?04:29
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hondjebob2: that'll persist across reboots?04:29
TokenBadlike see the bandwidth04:29
naliothbob2 touche04:29
TokenBadwhos uploading04:30
TokenBadwhos downloading04:30
CrustyPunkbob2/ja32768: I don't think it worked. I'm getting this error message when I try to run the script without being logged in as root - "/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/bin/wine: cannot find '/media/bigdrivewin/Aliens vs. Predator 2/AVP2.exe'04:30
TokenBadthat type thing04:30
bob2TokenBad: sure, tail -f /var/log/daemon.log04:30
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 i accidentally did a dist-upgrade with some backports stuff in sources.list..is there anyway to delete my apt-get cache, so that i can change my sources list, and do apt-get update again?04:30
atoolTokenBad: gkrellm will give you net stats04:30
bob2hondje: oh, the cable wasn't plugged in during the install?04:30
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LordKahlesshey i have a wierd question, i have a laptop with a wireless card, i want to install ubuntu on it, but the wireless card requires ndiswrapper... is there a way i can get the drivers on there coz i know ubuntu doesnt come stock with ndiswrapper04:30
hondjebob2: yeah :(04:30
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magogCrustyPunk, might wanna ask in #cedega04:30
bob2CrustyPunk: what does "sudo ls -ld '/media/bigdrivewin/Aliens vs. Predator 2/AVP2.exe'" print out?04:31
Darkfusionmy ubuntu came with ndiswrapper04:31
jinxiI'm in console on my laptop, but the screen is alot smaller than the physical screen itself. how can I fix this?04:31
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naliothBROKEN_LADDER: just comment out your non-ubuntu sources, reload apt, and you'll be fine04:31
LordKahlessdoes it?04:31
TokenBadwhat is gkrellm?04:31
Darkfusionyeah04:31
BROKEN_LADDERnalioth reload?04:31
LordKahlessi have the 5.04 discs that they sent me and the live cd didnt load ndis wrapper04:31
CrustyPunkbob2: Erm... an empty line. =o04:31
naliothBROKEN_LADDER: "apt-get update"04:31
bob2hondje: ah, plug it in, add this lines to /etc/network/interfaces "iface eth0 inet dhcp"04:31
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cthulfuegowine needs to have the spaces in the path double-escaped04:31
atoolTokenBad: http://www.gkrellm.net/04:31
bob2LordKahless: yes, it won't load it04:31
BROKEN_LADDERnalioth i did that.  doesn't work.  there are still packages that i have to manually downgrade in synaptic to get them to install.04:31
DarkfusionI installed it and had ndiswrapper.04:31
LordKahless5.04?04:32
Darkfusionyeah04:32
Darkfusionhoary04:32
TokenBadCrustyPunk, what you trying to do..just play the game?04:32
hondjebob2: I had him do that, so I'm thinking he did something else wrong...04:32
atoolTokenBad: is just a general sys monitor04:32
LordKahlesswell ill give it a try04:32
naliothBROKEN_LADDER: in synaptic, remove them04:32
LordKahlessnotin to lose :p04:32
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: apt-get update won't help04:32
TokenBadok04:32
hondjetime to hunt that evilness :)04:32
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ryanomalley_hey al04:32
naliothhondje: what are you exorcising today?04:32
ryanomalley_all*04:32
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BROKEN_LADDERbob2 even if i delete the cache first?04:32
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: indeed04:32
hondjenalioth: getting my brother all down with the buntu04:32
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CrustyPunkTokenBad: No, I can play the game fine as long as I'm logged in as root. I'm trying to get it working so I can use the script I made as a shortcut, while I'm not as root.04:32
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bob2BROKEN_LADDER: apt won't magically downgrade packages just because it can't download them anymore04:32
naliothhondje: that is not evil04:32
TokenBadahh04:33
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 magically?04:33
bob2CrustyPunk: paste the output of "mount | grep win"04:33
mazbradberryhey guys.04:33
TokenBadand you change the dir ownership04:33
TokenBadand stuff like that?04:33
Darkfusionhi maz04:33
TokenBadso that its owned by you..not by root?04:33
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mazbradberryi'm having hardware recognition problems.04:33
hondjenalioth: oh, that's just to start things off, I'll get evil later :)04:33
CrustyPunk/dev/hdb5 on /media/bigdrivewin type ntfs (rw,errors=remount-ro)04:33
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: type /~Vbp <enter> in aptitude, and then hit enter on each package and select the ubuntu version of it04:33
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BROKEN_LADDERbob2 the way i conceptualized it, the cached list of packages now points to packages that relie upon newer versions of libs than the ones in hoary.  so i visualized removing that cached list, and recreating it.  how is that in error?04:34
bob2CrustyPunk: so, you didn't remount it out after editing fstab.  sudo umount /media/bigdrivewin ; sudo mount /media/bigdrivewin04:34
CrustyPunkTokenBad: No, the problem is I don't have permissions for the partition the actual game is on, and I can't change said permissions because it's a RO drive.04:34
mazbradberryI can't access my internal zip drive, though it's recognized in the device manager04:34
jinxiI'm in console on my laptop, but the screen is alot smaller than the physical screen itself. how can I fix this?04:34
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bob2jinxi: it's fiddly and annoying, and way easier to just use X.  if you really care, you need to find the right vga= option for your res/card.04:34
bob2mazbradberry: define "can't access"04:34
mazbradberryas in, it's not showing up anywhere.04:35
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: the list is indeed recreated, but it doesn't make apt do anything.04:35
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CrustyPunkbob2: I get "/etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0" when I try to remount04:35
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: the dependencies are perfectly satisfied already04:35
jinxibob2: where do I modify that setting?04:35
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bob2CrustyPunk: what on earth did you do?04:35
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bob2jinxi: /boot/grub/menu.lst, but there won't be examples there (iirc)04:35
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 if i try to install mplayer, for instance, it won't install because it says that it needs libraries newer than the ones i can get through hoary.04:35
CrustyPunkbob2: I'd assume somewhere along the line I chownd that directory like a very stupid, stupid man.04:36
ja32768CrustyPunk:  Uh, that's a problem...   did you have a stray chown -R 1000 /  somewhere?04:36
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 once i have entered into aptitude and done that command sequence, how do i downgrade the packages?04:36
jinxiah, it is ok04:36
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: yes, because your sources.list doesn't list sources that can satisfy those dependencies04:36
TokenBadCrustyPunk, you mount to a dir right?04:36
jinxibob2: can u give me any example?04:36
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bob2BROKEN_LADDER: as I said, hit enter on each package and select the ubuntu version.  once you've done that on all of them, hit 'g' twice04:36
bob2jinxi: no, sorry, I haven't bothered with it in years04:36
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 so in my apt-get cache, it's looking at a version of mplayer that is newer than the one hoary offers.04:36
bob2CrustyPunk: you chown'd *all* of /etc/?04:37
BROKEN_LADDERhow do i select the ubuntu version?04:37
CrustyPunkja32768: That's my guess, should I chown -r 0 /04:37
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: have you don't what I said yet?04:37
bob2CrustyPunk: NO04:37
CrustyPunkbob2: Gotcha. =o04:37
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mazbradberrybob, do you have any idea what might be wrong with this hardware thing?04:38
CrustyPunkUgh. I don't know how I managed to chown /04:38
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 i'm trying.  how do i change the version?04:38
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BROKEN_LADDERbob2 i typed /~Vpb04:38
bob2CrustyPunk: it's mostly safe to run "sudo chown -R 0 /etc/"04:38
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: did you read what I said or not?04:38
BROKEN_LADDERyup04:38
BROKEN_LADDERi read it.04:38
BROKEN_LADDERnow what?04:38
BROKEN_LADDERyou said change the version, and i'm asking how.04:38
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: "and then hit enter on each package and select the ubuntu version of it"04:38
BROKEN_LADDERhow?04:38
ja32768Just checking, there's not a lot in /etc/ that's not owned by root - just some stuff in /etc/cups04:38
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: jesus dude04:39
CrustyPunkbob2: Mostly safe, as in go for it, or go for it at my own risk? =P04:39
BROKEN_LADDERi hit enter..now what.  there are just a bunch of lines of text.04:39
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: you've hit enter on it and got the dependency list?04:39
BROKEN_LADDERjesus what dude?04:39
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: nevermind, good luck04:39
BROKEN_LADDERyes04:39
BROKEN_LADDERi got the dep list04:39
bob2CrustyPunk: as in, afaict, everything but cups will work04:39
ubernostrumThe apache2-common package claims that it contains "all the standard apache2 modules", but that doesn't seem to include mod_rewrite. A quick search with apt turns up no other packages which provide mod_rewrite, so does anyone know where I could find it?04:39
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: now use some initiative and scroll down04:39
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BROKEN_LADDERscroll down?04:40
CrustyPunkbob2: I got the drive mounted, now to try the script dealie.04:40
BROKEN_LADDERit only is half a page.04:40
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BROKEN_LADDER1/3 of a page even.04:40
jinxiwhat console msn client can I use?04:40
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: so, why don't you read the page04:40
CrustyPunkbob2: It works, thanks for help. You too, ja32768. =)04:40
BROKEN_LADDERconsole?  msn?04:40
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: and notice the Version list at the bottom04:40
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 i see one option.04:41
mazbradberryhm, do people have trouble with USB hardware working?04:41
BROKEN_LADDERi don't see how to change it.04:41
bob2jinxi: centreicq can04:41
bob2mazbradberry: not generally04:41
mazbradberryokay04:41
ubernostrumnm, found it.04:41
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: maybe try lateral thinking....what might happen if you hit enter on it?  or +?04:41
mazbradberrybecause my memory stick won't work either.04:41
bob2mazbradberry: it's possible your hardware is weird in a way ubuntu doesn't know how to handle04:41
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mazbradberryis there a way i could fix tha?04:42
mazbradberrythat04:42
bob2or that you're using waryt with a non-vfat memory card04:42
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Jet2k5does anyone here by change running ubuntu 64-bit with SATA drive?04:42
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BROKEN_LADDERbob2 the only thing that happens is that the list expands or contracts.04:42
BROKEN_LADDERthere's only one option in it.04:42
BROKEN_LADDERand it's not ubuntu.04:43
BROKEN_LADDERit's just some number.04:43
bob2wow04:43
bob2that's useful04:43
BROKEN_LADDERit's like that in every option, except the ones that are already ubuntu.04:43
bob2why don't you, y'know, tell us what it says04:43
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abarbacciahey all - how big is ubuntu on a regular install?04:44
BROKEN_LADDER6.3.5-3904:44
Darkfusionabout 1.8 GB04:44
bob2___BROKEN_LADDER: and the package is...04:44
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mdipiHey all, I have a 15" PowerBook G4 with an AirPort Extreme wireless card, any chance this is supported?04:44
bob2mdipi: no, broadcom are being utterly useless on that front04:44
bl4cktonedang I lost the userlist in X-Chat how do I bring it back?04:44
neighborleeI have exported some varibles in bash.bashrc, yet while export clearly shows them active and correct paths...my  example fine can't find one of the library files....what am I missing here ??LOL04:44
mdipiyeah, from what I hear its a bitch in any linux brand04:45
mdipibut it was a hope04:45
mazbradberrybob2: is there any way that i could change the settings of my hardware?04:45
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naliothmdipi: airport extreme is NOT supported. the rest of your powerbook is supported nicely04:45
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 acct04:45
mdipidamnit now I have to try to cop a USB/PCI wirelesscard04:45
DarkfusionI've got broadcom working w/ ndiswrapper on an x86 laptop. Don't think you can do that with a powerbook04:45
mdipiyeah i had ubuntu on for like an hour earlier04:45
bob2nalioth: that's not entirely true04:45
mdipibut had to nuke it for OS X again04:45
bob2the trackpad isn't, nor the keyboard light04:45
mdipihas anyone ever had a dual boot OS X/Ubuntu?04:46
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: then move on to the next search result04:46
bob2mdipi: lots of people04:46
bob2mazbradberry: dunno, sorry04:46
naliothbob2 really? my trackpad is supported04:46
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Darkfusionwhy? I think OS X is nicer then any brand of Linux available at the moment04:46
bob2nalioth: do you have a brand new powerbook?04:46
naliothmdipi: i dual boot osx/ubunut04:46
mdipiso if i have about 10 gigs of free space right now, can i install to that or do i have to nuke my drive again?04:46
BROKEN_LADDERmdipi lol04:46
BROKEN_LADDERmdipi you traded off a quick responsive gui and configurability for ease of use and excessive eye candy.  right on.04:46
bob2Darkfusion: that's a personally opinion, I much prefered debian and ubuntu04:46
mdipinalioth: what idd you install furst04:46
mdipilol04:46
concept10Anyone know how to show userlist in XChat?04:46
naliothbob2: i have a brand new ibook (which uses the same trackpad)04:46
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mazbradberryah, pee04:46
BROKEN_LADDERosx is atrocious.04:46
naliothmdipi: 10 free gigs is more than enough04:47
bob2nalioth: oh, it works, you just don't get the synaptis-style stuff, I think04:47
BROKEN_LADDERerr...the osx _gui_ is atrocious.04:47
bob2nalioth: oh, and sleep doesn't work on modern powerbooks under linux04:47
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: er, stop it?04:47
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naliothbob2: it doesnt work on old-ass ibooks, either04:47
naliothmdipi: you will need to have osx on first04:47
bob2nalioth: it should do, aside from hal bugs04:47
BROKEN_LADDERosx feels so cumbersome and slow because it's gui is so intense and overdone.04:47
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 no, i'm still trying.04:47
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 i told you the version number04:47
mdipinalioth: yeah I have that nad 10 gigs of "free space"04:48
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: shut up about os x04:48
DarkfusionIf you want Linux on PPC, try Yellow Dog Linux04:48
benplautditto to Darkfusion04:48
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: so, obviously, acct is from Ubuntu, not backports.  now move on.04:48
mdipireally?04:48
mdipiI was thinking of it but figured Ubuntu would be better04:48
bob2is yellow dog even developed anymore?04:48
naliothmdipi: i have 5 gb for ubuntu and the rest is hfs+ (not the new journaling type, tho)04:48
X7Clease time on dhcp server is on secinds or minutes or someting else?04:48
mdipinalioth: how did you partition your drive?04:48
bob2X7C: depends on the dhcp server.  should be on the order of hours04:48
naliothbob2: ydl is the only linux i've run on my 'books where the thing sleeps and wakes properly04:48
atoolbob2 they just came out with a new release04:49
X7Cdhcp304:49
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 i didn't realize it was channel policy not to talk about osx.  sorry.04:49
X7Canybody using that one?04:49
naliothbob2: so i cant figure (since its all GPL) why it doesnt work here in ubuntu04:49
bob2nalioth: if it doesn't work on ubuntu, and it's not because of the hal bug, please file a bug04:49
bob2it's not all GPL04:49
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 if acct is from ubuntu, then why doesn't the version say ubuntu?!04:49
bob2and it's presumably because yellow dog doesn't use hal yet04:49
mdipiit worked fine for me ealrier04:49
mdipibefore i f'ed it up04:49
naliothmdipi: software wise? i used OSX Boot CD Disk Utility, installed osx and then ubuntu04:49
bob2atool: ah, ok04:49
Darkfusionyeah, yellow dog is still developed. They now have a 64 bit port for G504:49
naliothmdipi: if you have ipartition, you can save the  osx install04:49
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: it's channel policy not to make stupid assertions04:50
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: not all ubuntu packages have ubuntu in the version04:50
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: now keep looking04:50
mdipiwell i partitioned it when i just installed04:50
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mdipilike an hour ago04:50
mdipiinto 50 gigs HFS+04:50
mdipiand then 10 gigs just free space04:50
bob2mdipi: then you can install ubuntu in that04:50
mdipiyeah okay good04:50
bob2assumeing mac os X made the right boot partitions elsewhere04:50
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ja32768Anyone running ubuntu for amd64 right now?04:51
naliothmdipi: you're good to go then. the ubunutu installer can make itself a swap and you have PLENTY of space for ubuntu04:51
mdipihopefully it did04:51
mdipinice guys04:51
naliothmdipi: did you make a 1mb partition for yaboot?04:51
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mdipieh i forgot to04:51
mdipibut i can do that int he installer right?04:51
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naliothmdipi: just don't forget04:51
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naliothmdipi: it needs to be Regular hfs04:52
Octaneanyone know of a good nfs howot04:52
Octanehowto*04:52
mdipican I even format to HFS from the installer?04:52
mdipii dsidnt think i remembred seeing it04:52
naliothmdipi: linux fdisk programs format in all kinds of FSs04:52
naliothmdipi: just boot your osx cd, and make one right quick04:53
mdipialright04:53
mdipidiskutility to the resque04:53
bob2fdisk doesn't format anything at all04:53
bob2all it does is make partitions04:54
mdipiwait04:54
bob2seperate tools put filesystems on them04:54
mdipiive never used fdisk...04:54
mdipii'll do some research04:54
bob2you don't need to use fdisk04:54
bob2the installer will let you partition things just fine04:54
naliothmdipi: pssst see the yellow dog linux website for some in depth HD howto04:54
hadonedoes anyone know the minimum requirements CPU speed? ram hard drive space or have a link to these specs?04:55
mdipiyeah im there now04:55
mdipii hate being a noob man, but you guys are really great04:55
naliothmdipi: we are all n00bs at something04:55
bob2hadone: there isn't one04:55
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 how am i supposed to know whether a version is the ubuntu hoary version or not?04:55
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 and i made no stupid assertions.  the osx gui is terrible.04:56
Darkfusionwhy is the osx gui terrible?04:56
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BROKEN_LADDERit's slow and clunky even on brand spanky new machines at the apple store in downtown sf.04:56
mdipiokay so i need to make a yaboot parititon04:56
crimsunBROKEN_LADDER: you can read the changelog for an installed package, of course.04:56
hadonewould it run on a 266 with 128 mb ram and 2 gig gateway laptop(old 2500 model)?04:56
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BROKEN_LADDERhow did that happen?04:56
bob2hadone: it will, but it will be a bit slow04:56
BROKEN_LADDERhow can i set xchat not to respect requests to leave?04:56
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: that was my polite way of telling you to shut up about os X04:56
hadoneohh ok and thanks:004:57
Jesse1BROKEN_LADDER, to find out if your using hoary go to system then about ubuntu04:57
naliothDarkfusion: it's only slow and bad in some peoples opinions04:57
BROKEN_LADDERi am using hoary04:57
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bob2sure, and the channel can be set to not respect your requests to join04:57
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naliothmdipi: yes, the smallest size it will allow you to make04:57
mdipiokay04:57
BROKEN_LADDER5.0.404:57
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frankyHey, I need help getting DNS working. The internet works fine and once the domain is resolved the document loads fast. It just takes a minute or two to find the domain. I tried searching for nameservers and manually entering their IP's - theres two boxes, DNS servers and Search domains,a nd i'm not sure what I'm doing. Can anybody tell me how to get dns working?04:57
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 that's fine.04:57
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: so, if it doesn't have bp or backport in the version, it's not a backport04:57
hondjeokay, one brother converted04:57
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: now go find them04:57
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 but it is a terrible flaw in a chat client if it quits when someone requests it.04:57
BROKEN_LADDERhow do i fix this?04:57
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: no, it's not a flaw in a "chat client"04:57
bob2it's how this IRC network works04:58
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BROKEN_LADDERbob2 it's not just backport that is the problem.  this occured from some other sources well before i started using backports.04:58
bob2then reinstall and don't be so silly next time04:58
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 you should be able to ban or kick me.  but my client should _never_ do something without my permission.04:58
hondjehaha04:58
BROKEN_LADDERthat's a flaw.04:58
naliothwwhheeeeeeeeeee!04:58
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atoolyou guys heard anything on the firefox bug being fixed?04:59
naliothrofl!04:59
Jesse1atool, what bug??04:59
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: stop whinging, it has nothing at all to do with your client04:59
atoolthe you're using an older version bug04:59
atooltry going to the extensions site04:59
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 it stated that i "left".  that is obviously a problem with my client.04:59
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 it didn't say i was kicked.04:59
naliothatool: open FF, put "about:config" in the address bar. search the page for "vendorsub" and chg the value to 1.0.405:00
naliothatool: now you're fixed05:00
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Jesse1BROKEN_LADDER, lets just say he kicked you then05:00
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: yes, the sevrer did that to you05:00
atoolnalioth: thanks.05:00
BROKEN_LADDERso my client should say i was kicked, not that i left.05:00
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: I'm sorry, it is not obviously a problem with your client05:00
BROKEN_LADDERobviously it is, because it reported false information to me.05:00
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: if you wish to continue complaining, please go to #xchat and tell them05:00
BROKEN_LADDERalso, on one occasion an op made my client join a channel.05:01
bob2BROKEN_LADDER: fine, #xchat05:01
BROKEN_LADDERmade it _join_05:01
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bob2then use a less shit client05:01
bob2but we don't care05:01
naliothomg! rofl!05:01
Jesse1lol05:01
naliothbetter then world wrestling federation05:01
Jesse1nalioth, its world wrestling entertainment now05:02
naliothJesse1: the point is the same (and y'all know when i stopped watching, eh?)05:02
BROKEN_LADDERbob2 what's your favorite client?05:02
atoolnalioth: you know what's preventing a fixed version of FF from being added to the repositories?05:02
bob2irssi-text05:03
naliothatool: you are using a "fixed" version05:03
naliothatool: the devs didnt see fit to version it properly for some reason05:03
sleeperhi05:03
atoolheh, so the blame falls on mozilla.org then?05:03
sleepercan someone help me one moment please?05:03
frankyhey i have a dns problem looking up is taking forever but once its resolved loading is fast. how do i go about fixing this? i've tried manually adding nameserver ip's to the list but it doesnt help much. anybody can help?05:03
Jesse1sleeper, shoot05:03
naliothatool: no, on ubuntu devs who patched 1.0.2-ubuntu to 1.0.4 security standards, but left it saying 1.0.205:04
sleepercan i install in my ubuntu .tar.gz archives?05:04
bob2nalioth: wtf, no05:04
naliothsleeper: sure can05:04
Jesse1nalioth, well that was smart05:04
sleeperwhy?05:04
atoolnalioth: you know how to find out who is respoible for maintainin which packaged?05:04
naliothno? i'm confused then05:04
bob2it isn't 1.0.4.  calling it that would be wrong.05:04
sleeperi am downloading winex and i a m not sure what i must download05:05
Jesse1yes it's jus a fixed 1.0.205:05
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ja32768franky:  maybe your first DNS server in /etc/resolv.conf isn't responding and the second one is.  Try reversing their order?05:05
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naliothi'm really confused then05:05
Jesse1lol05:05
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Jesse1ah crap05:06
naliothdosent ubuntu firefox have the same security patches that mozilla firefox 1.0.4 has?05:06
bob2nalioth: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1068105:06
bob2that's the gory details05:06
Jesse1you have 1 broken package on your system05:06
vessuvius81anyone know how to reset the screen res? I did a sudo apt-get upgrade the other day, and now my res is back to 640x480, and no options to change under Syster >> Screen Res05:06
sleeperok thx05:07
Jesse1well that didnt take me long to break ubuntu again05:07
bob2installing non-ubuntu packages will do that05:08
Jesse1yea05:09
Jesse1oh well i just removed it through synaptic05:09
X7Canybody using shorewall getting a wifi lan through a cable modem??05:09
X7Cor at least shorewall working with a wifi lan05:09
X7C?05:09
naliothbob2: i read that a few weeks ago, and am still confused. Probably cuz i'm a non-technical User05:11
Jesse1nalioth, too many word on that page for me to read05:13
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atoolit looks like this is the problem...05:13
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atoolFF wants to push out 1.04 cause there's a big sec. problem, thus preventing users from seeing the page05:14
naliothJesse1: yea, i'm just a old taxi driver05:14
atoolubunut releases on a 6 month cycle05:14
atoolbackports allows for "newer" packages, but doesn't break ubuntu05:15
atoolit must keep dep. correct to allow for dist-upgrades05:15
bob2wary backports made it impossible to upgrade to hoary05:15
atoolin order to do so, must trick the system to think it's an older package...05:15
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atoolso it's acutally 1.0.4 but says it's 1.0.2...?05:16
bob2no, it's 1.0.2 with security fixes05:16
bob2I'm 90% sure 1.0.4 has more stuff than that05:16
naliothatool: no its actually 1.0.2 but with the security patches found in mozilla firefox 1.0.405:17
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atoolhmm...05:17
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naliothbob2: right this time?05:17
bob2yes05:17
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Jesse1hmm i still cant get music to stream through firefox05:17
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Jesse1i installed mplayer and the plugin for firefox but now when i got to a site it show the buffering bar but then goes grey and nothing happens05:18
atool"This is why Ubuntu patches security on Firefox 1.0.2. But not features, so thats why it says 1.0.2, even though the security is up-to-date to 1.0.4"05:19
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Jesse1what was the security holes in the firstplace?05:19
BROKEN_LADDERi encoded "1 the matrix" to ogg theora today.05:19
BROKEN_LADDERand if i knew how to use bit torrent to create a .torrent file, i'd share it.05:20
naliothJesse1: allowed any script kiddie to pull an "internet explorer" on your firefox05:20
Jesse1??05:21
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Jesse1make it go slow and crap?05:21
Kyralremote scripts, steal your passwords, etc05:22
bob2it let aribtrary people make firefox install software05:22
atoolurl spoofing i believe05:22
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bob2right, by spoofing the url05:22
Jesse1ah yes05:22
Jesse1i saw a test site for that a while ago05:22
naliothJesse1: like i said, lets it imitate Internet Exploder05:23
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mushroomdamn it!05:24
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Jesse1mushroom, why damn it?05:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYtransgress you there?05:28
mushroomfirefox imitated IE05:28
Jesse1far out this sucks i cant get qgspider to install i really wanted to try taht program05:28
mushroomwhat is qgspider?05:29
transgressChurcH_of_FoamY: yes05:30
Jesse1a program for cheating on games05:30
smile-girlhi05:31
bob2classy05:31
mushroomah~~~that's a plug-in for firefox?05:31
Jesse1no05:31
mushroom;)  I'll get more information about that application via google05:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYhey can i pm you man?05:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYi have a question for ya05:32
Jesse1yea i cant seem to install it i get a lot of errors05:33
mushroomubuntu 5.04?05:33
Jesse1yea05:33
rob^Jesse1 i installed mplayer and the plugin for firefox but now when i got to a site it show the buffering bar but then goes grey and nothing happens  <--I get this too, any ideas?05:33
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Jesse1rob^, i have no idea05:34
mushroomi have the same  problem05:34
rob^yeah, I wasn't talking to you exactly, I just copied/pasted it05:34
_kevinHow long does it take for the ubuntu team to add the new 1.31 update for Gaim in the repositories05:34
Jesse1rob^, yea but still i have no idea05:34
jinxi<-- same problem05:35
mushroomyou can install it by your self05:35
cthulfuego_kevin: There was a gaim security update yesterday05:35
Jesse1_kevin, shouldnt take more than a week05:35
rob^bug..?05:35
cthulfuego!info gaim hoary05:35
ubotugaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 825 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB05:35
mushroomapt-get install gaim?05:35
Jesse1yup05:35
cthulfuego_kevin: I doubt they're going to upgrade the version in hoary to 1.3; most likely it'll go into breezy.05:35
cthulfuego!info gaim breezy05:35
ubotugaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.3.0-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 816 kB, Installed size: 2156 kB05:36
cthulfuegoSee?05:36
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Jesse1!info05:36
mushroomyep05:36
Jesse1far out im bored05:36
naliothso now it's 'beat the bot' time?05:37
nalioth!info transcode breezy05:37
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mushroom!info qgspider05:37
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cthulfuegoJesse1: http://www.goog.eocm/search?q=i+need+a+hobby05:37
cthulfuegogoogle too05:37
mushroom....05:37
_kevin!uptime05:37
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Jesse1nice spelling05:37
DarkfusionHow do I change Framebuffer size?05:37
cthulfuegoDarkfusion: With boot args in menu.lst05:37
naliothleave it to me to ask for something that doesnt exist05:37
sladenDarkfusion: vga=xxxx05:38
Jesse1any1 up for a game of monopoly?05:38
_kevin-MrNaughty- [Uptime Mirc]  [WinXP Uptime] : 1wk 1day 2hrs 5mins 19secs [Up Since] : Saturday, the 11th of June 2005 at 07:35:39pm05:38
_kevinlol i got that for !uptime05:38
Jesse1lol05:38
pacifistkamakaze!uptime05:38
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mushroomLOL05:38
_kevinwin xp ppl on ubuntu05:38
Jesse1he's using windows xp05:38
cthulfuegoSilly people with their scripts.05:38
mushroomppl?05:38
Jesse1lol lets break it05:38
mushroomah~~~05:39
cthulfuegoMind you, an uptime of a week is pretty impressive for WinXP, especially considering it's on the net ;-)05:39
Jesse1ppl= people05:39
naliothcan anyone tell me where i can buy one of these? >>> http://www.macpower.com.tw/products/hdd3/m9/m9dx05:39
_kevini got 2 weeks on a win xp05:39
_kevinonline and on irc05:39
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mushroom^0^ I got it thank you!05:39
cthulfuego 13:39:51 up 94 days, 18:18,  0 users,  load average: 0.03, 0.09, 0.0805:39
frankycan anybody give me some DNS ip addresses? i just installed ubuntu and domain name service doesnt work very well (it is very slow)05:40
_kevinthat your uptime right now 94 dyas?05:40
_kevindays*05:40
cthulfuegoOn that particular machine, yes05:40
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_kevinwhat OS are you running Ubuntu?05:40
crazyhorseit will crash in 5 days and about 10 hours and 20 minutes, for shure ;)05:40
frankyyes05:40
cthulfuego_kevin: Debian Sarge (it's my primary hosting server)05:41
Mezo_O05:41
MezI think my /boot patition has become corrupt05:41
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_kevini see05:41
cthulfuegocrazyhorse: Nah, it's not running a 2.2 kernel ;-)05:41
crazyhorsei typed shure? arr, i should sleep more regulary05:41
MezI've got backups of my klernel - just wondering the best way to reinstlal grub ?05:41
Darkfusionso how would I set framebuffer to 80x24?05:41
cthulfuegocrazyhorse: it's been up to 140-odd days before05:41
_kevinis there a way to find out how long has it been since I been using linux.. I wanna kno when i installed it05:41
Darkfusionvga=?05:41
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cthulfuego_kevin: Check your first log entry in /var/log05:42
_kevink05:42
crazyhorsecthulfuego, hehe, my router was a little before 100 days when the mmap stuff came about05:42
atooldoes ubuntu create an install.log?05:42
atoolin /home/root or anything?05:42
crimsunatool: in /var/log05:42
cthulfuegoatool: I think so, yes.05:42
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cthulfuegoWell, it saves a template anyway05:43
_kevincthulfuego: I'05:43
cthulfuegoYou' ?05:43
_kevinI'm in that folder05:43
_kevinwhich file do i look at?05:44
atool"ls -lrt"05:44
cthulfuego_kevin: The oldest log file you have.05:44
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_kevinSun 05 Jun 2005 03:26:13 PM EDT05:44
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_kevinso like 15 days almost of using linux05:44
_kevincan some one here tell me some way to keeping my linu secre.. I have Firestarter, is there anything better or in-addition to firestarter that i should have05:46
carybob2, seveas, or pfp05:48
caryPlease tell me ssomeone is around05:48
bob2?05:48
caryyay05:48
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atool_kevin: the easiest thing to do to be secure is to not run a bunch of excess deamons.05:48
atoollike mysql, apache, etc.05:48
cthulfuego_kevin: If you have blocked all incoming traffic you'll be right.05:49
_kevinatool how can i check what deamons I'm running05:49
mdipihey all, im back05:49
atoolwell, they're not installed by default :)05:49
naliothmdipi: welcome05:49
mdipihey nalioth05:49
mdipiwhen i go to write my partition changes05:49
mdipiit says i dont have a root FS selected05:49
mdipiwhen i know i have my big partition set to ext305:50
mdipido i want the mount point to /home?05:50
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carybob2, i finally got my kernel to compile, and installed it05:51
carybob2, but the boot loader crapped out05:51
caryits pointing to some file that doesnt exist05:51
carybob2, but ihave no idea how to fix it. linux wont boot05:51
Mezfuckiddy fuk fuck05:51
Meztip05:51
carybob2, any ideas ? (i think the problem is that im PPC)05:51
Mezrememebr *.05:51
mdipiyeah i get "no root fle system is defined"05:51
ThE__OnEhow cna i burn stuff from ubuntu onto cdr?05:51
bob2Mez: language please05:51
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Mezsorry bob2 - I just deleted my /bin directory05:52
naliothmdipi: you want a /boot (where yaboot will live <in hfs>) and a ext3 space for your root FS05:52
bob2ThE__OnE: insert a blank cd.  nautilus will pop up a "cd burner" window, and then you can drag files to it.  the select the "write cd" menu option.05:52
MezI think I'm going to ahev to reinstall05:52
concept10Mez, are you running as root?05:52
mdipiyeah nalioth, i just realized that my ext3 was set to /home not root05:52
naliothMez: OH!05:52
Mezconcept10, i was sudo -s'd05:52
dr_willisThE__OnE,   thners several cdrecording front ends you can use. I tend to use "k3b" because I like it.  The Nautilus burning feture dident work well for me.05:52
Mezpoo05:53
Mezah well05:53
ThE__OnEk3b?05:53
Mezat least I get to clean up my system05:53
naliothmez shot himself in the foot. You guys/gals/trolls in here take note05:53
ThE__OnEaapt-get it?05:53
bob2cary: it shouldn't be unbootable, unless you overwrite your existing kernel (very very bad idea)05:53
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ThE__OnEsudo apt-get install k3b?05:53
naliothnot that it was mez, but the fact that it is SO EASY to wipe your system out05:53
naliothwhen acting as ROOT05:53
dr_willisk3b, gnomebaker, i think thers a few others out as well.05:53
Meznalioth - I was tired and typed rm -rf ../bin not rm -rf ../*.bin05:53
ThE__OnEbob2, is the manual for ubuntu gonna be online for for purchase?05:53
ThE__OnEbob2, is the manual for ubuntu gonna be online or for purchase?05:54
ThE__OnE*05:54
naliothMez: hope your foot heals05:54
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Mezlol05:54
DaBladeHello05:54
Mez:P05:54
bob2ThE__OnE: there should be some books soon05:54
carybob2, i compiled and installed like the howto said to and seveas looked at the boot info (i pasted it on the pasteboard) and said it looked okay05:54
Mezto be fair... I could probably fix it05:54
DaBladeI'm having trouble getting my MP3 player mounted. Can anyone help me out?05:54
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carybut linxu wont boot at all, and i if it fails, then i try to go back to os x without a hard restart, it wont boot. some memory error ro something. a hard restart brings the ability to mac boot again05:55
naliothMez: yes you could, but it's probably quicker adn easier to reinstall05:55
bob2cary: you can't boot the old kernel?05:55
DaBladeHello?05:55
MezI'm gonna lose all my dfata now though lol05:55
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ThE__OnEbob2, ahh, only books? not viewable online05:56
bob2DaBlade: people are waiting for you tell us whether it ever worked, what sort of player it is, and what linux says about it's linux compatibilty.05:56
bob2ThE__OnE: the doc team are supposed to be making an online one05:56
bob2I don't know how far they are05:56
carybob2, i dont really know how?05:56
ThE__OnEok05:56
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carybob2, all i know is when i boot the loader gives me 3 options. linux, os x, and cdrom05:56
djsMez: Perhaps you could copy /bin from an ubuntu livecd onto it (others - please critique)05:57
naliothMez: and a chat program    :P05:57
DaBladebob2: It's a standard MP3 player. 256 megs.. It worked before I got a new motherboard05:57
bob2cary: and then you choose linux and get the yaboot prompt?05:57
MezI think a reinstall is a good idea anyways05:57
r0dalsa doesnt startup from boot. I have to manually use 'etc/init.d/alsa start' and force-reload for it to work05:57
Mezlol05:57
Mezi just deleted /bin05:57
bob2DaBlade: do other usb things work?05:57
ThE__OnEbecause someone told be theres gonna be a manual but i thought it was to be purchased sice ubuntu is offering soo much for free, like free cds05:57
caryyeah, what do i do at the yaboot05:57
bob2cary: hit tab05:57
Mezand djs - I only have hoary livecds05:57
DaBladebob2: The mouse, yeah05:57
bob2cary: and type LinuxOld or whatever it is05:57
naliothdjs: he can fix it, he's a pro05:57
caryokay05:57
OctaneI keep getting random lines like this in /var/log/messages/ -- Jun 19 23:57:11 dan kernel: DROPPED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:11:d8:d5:10:23:00:90:1a:40:a2:9f:08:00 SRC=81.178.221.239 DST=66.92.100.149 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x20 TTL=51 ID=44521 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=40751 DPT=44618 SEQ=769462728 ACK=0 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN...05:57
dr_williswhats up ThE__OnE ?05:57
Octaneany idea what causes them?05:57
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djsk05:58
ThE__OnEcan i PM, i cant talk well in this chatter05:58
bob2Octane: it's not random, it's firewall logging05:58
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ThE__OnEmy eyes hurt =)05:58
Octanebob2, oh okay thanks05:58
carybob2, i guess ill try that now05:58
bob2cary: that should work05:58
bob2cary: then come back and I'll tell you how to fix the other problem05:58
Jman888Hello05:58
caryok05:58
dr_willisThE__OnE,  just 'sudo apt-get install k3b' then run it :P or chedk the ubuntu wiki for cd burning information.05:58
jinxihey bob2, what's the file to edit to thange the vga of the boot?05:59
ThE__OnEany default cd burning come with ubuntu upon install?05:59
bob2jinxi: /boot/grub/menu.lst05:59
bob2ThE__OnE: yes, the file manager can burn cds05:59
naliothThE__OnE: sure, the nautilus built-in one05:59
Jman888Should i get Ububtu Linux or should i stay with SuSe. (Suse is 95.4% Downloaded)05:59
naliothThE__OnE: its similar to the one in XP05:59
ThE__OnEwhere is it located persay05:59
MezMWAHAHAHAHA05:59
Mezi SUCK SOOOOOOOOO MUCH05:59
DaBladebob2: Wanna see the final lines in dmesg?06:00
MeziT'S GONNA TAKE FOREVER TO GET BACK TO HOW I WAS06:00
naliothJman888: why are you asking that in THIS channel? you know what the answer is gona be.. .. ..06:00
MezHMM06:00
Mezdamn caps06:00
naliothThE__OnE: when you put a blank cd in your burner, a window should pop up06:00
Meznalitoh  - fancy SSHing into me?06:00
bob2ThE__OnE: just load a blank cd and it will pop up06:00
bob2DaBlade: ok, #flood06:00
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Mezand uploading the bin folder?06:00
Jman888....I thought you might think i shouldent wait 6more hours06:00
ThE__OnEahh ok06:00
ThE__OnEthanks06:00
Jman888Ive been downloading for 2 days06:00
naliothMez: and you'll be damn site more careful with sudo -s in the future, eh?06:00
naliothMez: that sounds pornographic06:00
rob^mez, what did you do?06:01
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bob2Jman888: might as well install suse then...you'll appreciate ubuntu all the more when you switch ;p06:01
naliothMez: oh never mind, my stuff is all PPC06:01
Mezah fair enough06:01
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naliothMez: you'd have GREAT fun figgerin why it wasnt workin06:01
Mezrob^ i deleted /bin by accident06:01
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Mezcant ssh into localhost anywyas06:01
rob^nice..06:02
Mez:'(06:02
Razor-Xhey06:02
MezI was tired thats why i cocked up06:02
Razor-Xnalioth: I got eterm working06:02
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Razor-Xfor that matter, i'm using it now06:02
Jman888Is there a torrent for Ubuntu?06:02
Jman888Torrents seem faster06:02
Meznow to get my kubuntu CD out and hope it still works06:02
Razor-Xi'm gonna try to add in the bind that F11 == Emacs mode ;)06:02
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naliothRazor-X: fancy that, i fired mine up and it quits immediately06:02
naliothJman888: several torrents06:02
Razor-XJman888: there is06:02
Mezor i could switch to gentoo06:02
carybob2, okay, i think im on old06:02
Razor-Xnalioth: SEGSIEV?06:02
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naliothRazor-X: have no clue06:03
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MezBBIAB06:03
Mezi hope06:03
Razor-Xnalioth: why does it quit?06:03
bob2cary: now edit /etc/yaboot.conf and find the Linux block06:03
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bob2cary: then comment out the bit about the initrd06:03
naliothRazor-X: have no clue06:03
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Razor-XI did a lot of things to get this to work06:03
Razor-Xin fact, this is a compiled eterm06:03
Razor-Xwhen I finally found my error, I realized I coulda done it with a binary, but I compiled native twin support into this, so it's all good ;)06:03
naliothmebbe i'll compile one06:03
DaBladethere, pasted dmesg06:03
Razor-Xnalioth: run Eterm in terminal and tell me the results06:04
nightwolfok so i used breezy, and now java vm wont start, its whining about libX11.so06:04
naliothEterm:  Error:  Unable to run sub-command.06:04
X7Canybody using wifi?06:04
bob2nightwolf: welcome to broken-town!06:04
naliothhate this bloody terminal-emulater06:04
nightwolfyay :(06:04
bob2nightwolf: usee ldd to find out where it thinks the library should be06:04
X7Ci need to ask some questions.....06:05
bob2DaBlade: there you go, it doesn't understand the partition table on it06:05
nightwolfldd on the libX11 file?06:05
Jman888Dang Tons of People Must be seeding Ubuntu06:05
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carybob2, i commented out both06:05
DaBladebob2: Is there anything I can do?06:05
carybob2, while im in here, can i make os x the deault boot option?06:05
bob2DaBlade: I don't know (I can't think of anything)06:06
bob2cary: commented out both what?06:06
DaBladeAnybody else please?06:06
carybob2, ##initrd=/boot/initrd.img.old06:06
bob2I'm pretty sure there's nothing you can do06:06
bob2cary: er, don't do that06:06
caryhaha06:06
nightwolfbob, ldd on the libX11.so shows 5 more libs, which all exist06:06
Jman888Wait i had a prob with ubuntu before.06:06
bob2cary: if yo udo, you won't be able to boot your old kernel when the new one screws up06:06
bob2nightwolf: no, on java06:06
DaBladeI'm gonna go away for almost all day, I need some music not to fall asleep lmao06:06
Jman888I tried to install and it couldnt read it right.06:06
nightwolfah doh06:06
carybob2, awesome. i undid that06:07
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caryshall i paste this file to the paste board?06:07
bob2that would be good06:07
bob2or #flood06:07
Razor-Xnalioth: what happens when you run Eterm in Terminal?06:07
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nightwolfbob, ldd on java doesnt show the libX11.so directly, just 4 other ones06:08
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bob2nightwolf: recurse through them until you find where it is getting confused, I guess06:08
nightwolfok06:08
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carybob2, pasted06:08
bob2don't see it..06:09
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ogahello boys and girls..... i was wondering if anybody could help me with my ati drivers / xorg.conf / XFree86-4 etc.... i've been going through the forums but everyone else seems to finish with "that worked" no such luck for me.06:10
naliothRazor-X: paging Razor-X06:10
bob2ignore the forums06:10
bob2follow wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:10
ogai'll give it a bash bob206:11
Razor-Xerrr, nalioth!06:11
Razor-Xsorry!06:11
Razor-Xi'm here now, nalioth ;)06:11
nightwolfbob, none of the files reference libX11.so that i can see06:12
Razor-Xdoes it SEGSIEV, nalioth?06:12
naliothRazor-X: there is a msg window with your name on it on my end here06:13
bob2"SEV"06:13
GuerinSIGSIEVE == grep06:13
Razor-Xnalioth: odd....06:13
Razor-XI didn't see the message?06:13
bob2nightwolf: well, eventually it tries to use it, you might have to chase it deeper06:13
Razor-Xhold on06:13
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nightwolfbob, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/137   thats what it shows right now06:13
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jmazaredoanyone can help me in virtual hosting is this right http://pastebin.com/30204306:14
bob2hah, segfault, go java06:14
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Myrttimorning folks06:18
Octaneanyone here know how to change nfs ports?06:19
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carybob2, according to that paste of the yaboot.conf file..it looks like its pointing to initrd.img. is that linking to another file, or is that a file that is supposed to exist.06:20
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bob2cary: I didn't see that file anywhere06:21
bob2cary: initrd.img will indeed be a symlink06:21
surlywhere are the tools to harden my ubuntu box?06:22
carybob2, im going ot paste the contents of my boot dir, okay?06:22
bob2ok...06:22
bob2surly: what do you want to harden?06:22
bob2by default it has nothing listening on network ports06:22
carybob2, pasted again.   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/13806:23
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r0dtrying to use dvd-rom and its saying I dont have permissions. my /etc/fstab is correct for 'user,noauto'06:24
surlyi came over from bsd, i want nothing running unless i start it06:24
DukGalNamuhey, whats a good command line mail program?06:24
sjoeboomutt06:24
bob2surly: already done06:24
sjoebooif setup well, its awsome06:24
bob2DukGalNamu: mutt06:24
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DukGalNamubob2: ok so apt-get?06:25
bob2r0d: *what* is saying that?06:25
bob2DukGalNamu: indeed06:25
DukGalNamubob2: cool06:25
bob2tho I think it's installed by default06:25
surlyok..very good...i will install and test...thanks06:25
DukGalNamubob2: yeah its already installed06:26
X7Csomebody that uses wifi with ubuntu?06:26
bob2X7C: lots of people do06:26
bob2if you have a question, it's way easier if you just ask06:26
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RaskallX7C: more than on other distros, even. Since ndiswrapper comes bundled with the kernel.06:26
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mezwell06:27
mezi got me a new kubuntu system06:27
r0dbob2,  'the folder contents could not be displayed. you do not have the permissions to view cdrom1'. this is a dvd06:27
bob2r0d: so, it's from nautilus? (the file manager)06:27
r0dyea06:27
naliothmez: you're still smoking there, bud06:27
X7Cok.. how did you configure the wlan0 interface so it would come up automatically on boot... i haven't been able to do that06:28
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bob2X7C: it's setup in /etc/network/interfaces06:28
bob2Raskall: woo, congrats!06:28
HrdwrBoBRaskall: ooh excelent06:28
HrdwrBoBexcellent too06:28
X7Ci have to use a script (house of craig thingie)06:28
X7Cbob2 haven't been able with that one06:28
Raskallbob2: thanks. :) It has been a dream to work with linux since I did my first install in 1993.06:29
bob2wow :-)06:29
Raskallbob2: sadly they use and develop for redhat and suse, but I guess I'll live anyways.06:29
bob2X7C: well, it's possible, unless you have to use wpa06:29
bob2Raskall: now to begin subtely converting them ;)06:29
Raskallbob2: the thought has crossed my mind. :) but Ubuntu has to get certified for the big companies (oracle, sybase, etc) before it's possible.06:30
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mezhuh nalitoh?06:31
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meznalitoh *06:32
meznalioth*06:32
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concept10Raskall, what will be your responsibilities in that position?06:33
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ThE__OnE!breeze06:34
ubotuThE__OnE: I haven't a clue06:34
Raskallconcept10: internal system and infrastructure maintenance.06:34
siimo!breezy06:35
ubotuBreezy is due for release in October 2005  If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it (X is broken, and other important packages could be too)06:35
Raskallconcept10: a handfull of developers has done that up til now. They didn't want to do it anymore, so they hired me.06:35
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concept10Raskall, that sounds good06:35
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cthulfuegoWoohoo, job in China :-)06:36
bob2haha, cool06:37
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naliothmez: so did your gnome reappear?06:37
cthulfuegoAnother session for Coke, it seems. Like  the Kota Kinabalu one.06:38
Raskallwell.. bus in 10 minutes. c ya06:38
Octaneif i add a file in /etc/modutils will it be read on boot?06:39
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Octaneitll have options in there for nfs06:39
cthulfuegoOctane: Just run 'sudo update-modules'06:39
carybob2, so is there any easy way of fixing (the link to the image??) for my booting?06:39
mdipiHey all! Running Ubuntu right now06:39
mdipithanks for all the help06:39
Octanecthulfuego, i know, but in the future06:39
naliothmdipi: welcome06:40
cthulfuegoOctane: yeah06:40
bob2cary: you've lost me06:40
mdipinow I just gotta config the Yaboot a bit and I'll be good06:40
naliothmdipi: just stay near a cat5 cable, right?06:40
carybob2, i guess..how the crap can i fix my booting06:40
mdipiyeah06:40
cthulfuegomdipi: Don't forget to install 'mol'.06:40
mdipiits not so bad06:40
carybob2, i dont know what the alter in yaboot.conf06:40
bob2cary: what's broken?06:40
Octanecthulfuego, thanks06:40
mdipicthulfuego, mol?06:40
naliothcthulfuego: thought it was standard?06:40
cthulfuegomdipi: mac On Linux06:40
caryi dont know06:40
mdipicthulfuego, ahh iave heard of it06:40
bob2cary: ...06:40
bob2cary: presumably something isn't working06:40
mdipicthulfuego, i have a mac on my toher partition though... lol06:40
cthulfuegomdipi: Basically, run your macOS (X) install on tty8, next to X :-)06:40
naliothmdipi: it is like wine or vmware on x86 (only at full speed)06:41
cthulfuegomdipi: yeah, they can run simultaneously.06:41
mdipicthulfuego, yeah i'll give it a try no doubt06:41
naliothmdipi: only if you want to06:41
mdipinalioth, no no, ive heard a lot about it, so im going to06:41
meznalitoh, I'm a KDE user not a Gnome user :DS so i got my KDE abck :D06:41
mdipinalioth, im just getting the booter taken care of too06:41
meznalioth, I'm a KDE user not a Gnome user :D so i got my KDE back :D06:42
carybob2, i just dont understand why when i install the new kernel the yaboot adjustment that it did automatically didnt work. in the past when i hit enter at the yaboot screen it woudl boot. now i can type old to boot to this, but ifi hit enter it screws up royally06:42
mdipimez, do you like KDE? im thinking about trying Kubutu, my friend just downloaded it and loves it06:42
mezmdipi: it's great - once you get used to it :D06:42
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mezmdipi: It cna be confusing at first, but it's very purdy, adn quite useable06:42
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mdipinalioth, you said youre dual booting OSX too right? I just have to edit /etc/yaboot.conf and change 'defaultos=macosx' right?06:42
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bob2cary: it works fine, your kernel is screwed06:42
naliothmdipi: you have enought space to try anything you like06:42
bob2cary: in that it doesn't use an initrd06:43
rommerwith the 'uptime' is it possible to find the length of the previous uptime, or the longest period of uptime?06:43
naliothmdipi: i have over 6 Desktop Manglers on my system here06:43
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mdipinalioth, lol yeah, i intend to try a lot righ tnow, im foolding around06:43
tsumehas anyone made VS .NET working under linux?06:43
mdipinalioth, and youre only on 5 gigs right? nice man :D06:43
bob2cary: so, comment out the initrd line ONLY  for the kernel you built, and run "ybin -v" and reboot.  enter should work.06:43
naliothmdipi: re yaboot = yes06:43
mdipinice :D06:43
DukGalNamu 21:43:11 up 40 days,  8:58,  1 user,  load average: 0.01, 0.08, 0.0706:43
mdipinalioth,  weird, i dont see a default os06:43
meztsume- i wouldnt even try :D06:43
naliothmdipi: i was gonna tell you earlier, i have my OSX hfs+ automagically mounted in my $homedir06:44
siimoi think my ubuntu box got hacked06:44
Xenguysiimo: ?06:44
mdipinalioth, im not to sure what that means?06:44
naliothmdipi: so i save all my pR0n, er files on 40+ gb of space06:44
cthulfuegosiimo: yeah sorry about that, i needed a temp shell box06:44
bob2siimo: that would be very impressive06:44
siimoit seems to have rebooted06:44
concept10you guys actually run linux on your macs?06:44
tsumemez: well, I need to make a decision, get VS working under linux, or install windows xp pro06:44
careyI just did an instal from an old burn of the last round of ubuntu.. If I want to upgrade to hoary, someone mentioned changing repositories and doing an upgrade.. Is that possible? and how?06:44
naliothmdipi: linux can read and write to many different filesystems06:44
mezsiimo: ubuntu is quite safew unless you go intalling problematic stuff/choosing an easy to crack password06:44
bob2concept10: lots of people do; mac hardware is quite nice06:44
tsumemez: I'd rather have the first working06:44
mdipinalioth, ah :D nice actually, im going to be near my ext drives usually so i'll probably use those06:44
meztsume - why do you need VS?06:44
tsumemez: job...06:45
naliothmdipi: i mount my mac partition automatically when i boot, and can access it from my /home/user directory06:45
bob2carey: wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes06:45
DukGalNamuwhat is VS06:45
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simpaticohas anyone got fbsplash working or a nice bootup06:45
siimomaybe i need to upgrade to hoary06:45
tsumeDukGalNamu: Visual Studio06:45
concept10bob2, yeah - i understand that but os x is nice also.  Maybe dual boot06:45
mezdont use VS under Linux - use it under windows - if you have to use it06:45
simpaticogetting sick of the black and white boot06:45
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mezyou're just gonna cause lots of problems using it under linux06:45
tsumemez: :(06:45
DukGalNamutsume: why so yuo need it?06:45
mdipinalioth, yeah, it seems like a good idea -- i gotta get this boot fix down first though lol, by default its not set up for dual boot?06:45
tsumemez: I'd be linuxless at home06:45
naliothmdipi: i do this automount thing on all the linux systems i install (fat32, hfs, etc)06:45
meztsuem - dual boot06:46
naliothmdipi: it should be set up for dual boot06:46
tsumemez: not a choice06:46
meztsume - why?06:46
mdipinalioth, yeah thats what i thought, but i dont see the default os06:46
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careybob2: Perfect, thank you06:46
tsumemez: stretching buck right now06:46
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mdipinalioth, i'm just gonna add it then i guess06:46
tsumemez: I need an actual job right now06:46
naliothmdipi: you dont see two options?06:46
meztsuem - but why cant you dual boot windows/linux?06:46
carybob2, ,here we go. thank you again for help. now time ot see if it works06:46
amonkeycan you change a mount from ro to rw while it's mounted?06:46
mdipinalioth, i see macosx = /dev/hda306:47
tsumemez: not enough space, only 80 G drive06:47
simpaticohas anyone setup a graphical boot on ubuntu??06:47
tsumeand I don't have enough money for anothe rdrive right now06:47
mez80Gb is more than enoughto dual boot06:47
tsumemez: not for me :)06:47
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tsumemez: its actually too small06:47
HrdwrBoBtsume: no, 80gb is more than enough.06:47
mdipitsume, im dual booting on a 60 gig drive06:47
tsumeI need to get a 12006:47
mezsimpatico: what do you mean by "graphicla boot06:47
tsumeyou must not be developers...06:47
siimoim dual booting with a 8gig drive06:47
tsumegeezz..06:47
simpaticousing fbsplash06:48
concept10I wish I could switch ubuntu to a blue theme06:48
tsumethis bites so badly06:48
meztsume - I'm a backports developer - and i've built a =few things for breezy - plus I *am* a web developer/part time windows developer06:48
tsumeI'd rather use VS on linux if I could06:48
siimoconcept10, download the theme pack for clearlooks06:48
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simpaticographical boot is a good resolution on boot anding colour anfd images06:48
cyphasehttp://www.adequacy.org/public/stories/2002.1.22.73620.4010.html <- Star Trek Linux06:48
meztsume - have a look at winehq.org06:48
tsumemez: well come on then :) do some vid work ;)06:48
mezif not, look at crossover office06:48
naliothconcept10: go and find the wiki article on 'bluecurve' theme06:48
tsumemez: Checked, and they didn't say anything06:48
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tsumemez: fyi, wine is dead06:49
Amaranthah...06:49
Amaranthfinally home06:49
meztsume :D it still works nicely06:49
mezhey Amaranth06:49
tsumemez: win98 apps only, NT apps are a rare06:49
concept10siimo, i want to switch everything to blue including the wallpaper06:49
Amaranthhey mez06:49
concept10nalioth, thanks06:49
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tsumemez: wine is dead :)06:49
tsumecxoffice is dead too06:49
naliothmdipi: ya catch all that?06:49
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tsumems is making it too hard for then to adapt06:49
Amaranthtsume: Dead?06:49
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mdipinalioth, yeah man, thanks so much06:50
tsumeAmaranth: wine doesn't support NT apps06:50
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Amaranthtsume: I'm on the mailing list, they've had 50 new threads in the last week06:50
mdipinalioth, acutally it ended at 'initrd-size=8192'06:50
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Amaranthtsume: Oh, you mean that.06:50
mdipinalioth, unless thats the end?06:50
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bob2"NT apps"? you mean win32? sure it does.06:51
naliothmdipi: thats the end06:51
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tsumeAmaranth: I forsee the projects "end of life"06:51
mdipinalioth, okay sweet :D06:51
Amaranthtsume: They support a lot of them but if they make wine run in win2k or winxp mode apps try to use weird APIs that aren't common that they don't need.06:51
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mezI've los tmy email accounts06:51
Amaranthtsume: They have legal backing and are releasing 0.9 at the end of the year06:51
mezshit i knew i forgot something06:51
Amaranthtsume: I don't see it dying at all.06:51
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concept10nalioth, what would that be listed under (i searched bluecurve)06:51
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tsumebob2: NT apps, meaning NT based applications06:52
meznalitoth,. I've lsot the mailing list for UNP - can you forward me back the last email i sent you06:52
naliothconcept10: here's the gist: find the fedora bluecurve theme (rpmfind.com or whereever) and use alien on it06:52
tsume98 based apps run fine however06:52
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Amaranthtsume: iTunes more or less works.06:52
concept10nalioth, k06:52
Amaranthtsume: They have a _lot_ of NT support.06:52
tsumeAmaranth: not much works however :)06:53
Amaranthtsume: The ReactOS project (GPL'd NT4) uses WINE libraries.06:53
tsumeand each time I build wine from cvs it segfaults :)06:53
tsumeAmaranth: NT == 2k and XP as well06:53
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Amaranthunlike some projects WINE doesn't guarantee CVS will build and work daily06:53
meznalioth you knwo who i mean06:53
Amaranthtsume: Not even close.06:53
mezI'm tired and irritable06:53
bob2where can I find out exactly what "nt program" means?06:54
tsumeAmaranth: yes they are06:54
Amaranthtsume: A _LOT_ of APIs were added in 2k and XP.06:54
tsumeAmaranth: read the code.06:54
tsumeAmaranth: its still NT06:54
Amaranthtsume: NT kernel, yes.06:54
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Amaranthbut NT4 != XP06:54
tsumeAmaranth: good portions of the code hasn't changed in years06:54
naliothmez: and your foot has a smoking hole in it06:54
tsumeAmaranth: no, more than the kernel06:54
tsumeAmaranth: GINA is the same as well06:54
tsumeAmaranth: many others libs06:54
Amaranthtsume: of course06:54
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mezyeah nalitoh06:55
mezI'm tired06:55
tsumeAmaranth: 2k and XP are just versions of NT with added libs06:55
Amaranthtsume: But they are enough different that apps that need XP generally don't run on NT or XP06:55
Amaranthtsume: They're backward compatible, yes.06:55
tsumeAmaranth: well of course, theres more added06:55
LordKahlesshey someone think they could help me? i just installed ubuntu on my laptop but for some reason, i get some wierd ass pattern on my screen when it trys to start x. any one know a fix?06:55
tsumeAmaranth: its still mostly NT06:55
bob2LordKahless: black and white dots?06:55
Amaranthtsume: 2k or XP are better targets to support for WINE than NT4 though, since they are more compatible with 9x06:56
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LordKahlessnot really06:56
LordKahlessit actually looks like a wierd visualization from itunes LOL06:56
tsumeAmaranth: well, theres much code missing, as Borland db libs will not install via wine06:57
LordKahlessexcept i can see the mouse cursor but i cant move it06:57
Amaranthtsume: File a bug? :)06:57
tsumeAmaranth: So, I don't know/think VS will install06:57
tsumeAmaranth: its been done.. since 200106:57
Amaranthmust not be important to WINE developers or users then06:57
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LordKahlessany ideas?06:57
tsumeAmaranth: many apps use that stupid lib06:57
Amaranthtsume: Not many users use apps that use that lib, appearently.06:58
tsumeAmaranth: cx office installed it okay, wish they wouldn't be pricks about code sharing :)06:58
Amaranthtsume: They aren't.06:58
tsumethey aren't sharing enough fyi06:59
Amaranthtsume: They have to share it all, they're required.06:59
tsumeonly the small meager parts they share06:59
tsumeAmaranth: no they aren't06:59
Amaranthtsume: WINE is LGPL06:59
bob2wine is under the LGPL now, they don't have to share everything06:59
tsumeAmaranth: only if they modify the existing code06:59
Amaranthtsume: If they change WINE they have to share their changes06:59
tsumeAmaranth: they can add on code and not share that07:00
bob2Amaranth: that's not true07:00
Amaranthbob2: It used to be BSD, they didn't have to share anything.07:00
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bob2Amaranth: yes, and LGPL ensure they have to share some things07:00
bob2but not all of it07:00
tsumeexactly07:00
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LordKahlesshmm but if i boot single user mode, it works fine07:01
bob2(this is the whole point of the lgpl existing)07:01
tsumeAmaranth: I leave it to myself, since I know how to read licenses07:01
bob2anyway07:01
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Amaranthbob2: Yes but if they change WINE itself they have to share those changes.07:01
Amaranthtsume: You aren't a laywer, your opinions really don't count.07:01
bob2Amaranth: if they change existing code, yeah07:01
Amaranthtsume: Neither do mine.07:01
tsumegah! why do people use crappy slow java for projects07:02
Amaranthjava isn't slow07:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYbob2 can ipm you for a quick sec?07:02
bob2ChurcH_of_FoamY: ok...07:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYthanx07:02
tsumeAmaranth: actually they do, because I've a complete understanding how to read legal documents07:02
tsumeAmaranth: yes, java is slow07:02
bob2tsume: Amaranth both these arguments are off-topic07:02
Amaranthbob2: Good point.07:02
tsumeAmaranth: write a large app/framework, then come back with a valid response07:02
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bob2tsume: stop it07:02
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bob2haha07:03
Amaranth:D07:03
Amaranthuhoh07:03
Amaranthi haven't upgraded breezy in 7 days07:03
Amaranthi'm scared07:03
tsumeAmaranth: shame!07:03
tsumeAmaranth: I've upgraded everyday07:03
tsumeAmaranth: I'm leeching the unstable debian archive too though..07:03
tsume:)07:03
Amaranthtsume: I didn't have net access07:03
tsumeAmaranth: shame!07:03
Amaranthplease don't mix sid and breezy07:03
Amarantheek07:04
Amaranth298 upgrades07:04
tsumeAmaranth: I'm running Sleezy right now :)07:04
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tsumeAmaranth: actually I added sid on accident, because I was using.. http://www.kiskeyix.org's archive07:05
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Guerintsume: sleezy... is that breezy's city-dwelling cousin?07:06
cyphasefuck CNN07:07
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cyphasethey start having free video's, then they say you need windows media player07:07
cyphase*sigh*07:07
Guerincyphase: utsl07:07
Guerincyphase: as in, read the page source and cnp the urls into mplayer or whatever07:08
cyphaseGuerin, i know, that what i'm trying now07:08
cyphasebut they're obfuscating it07:08
cyphase1 sec..07:08
Guerincyphase: they always do. Nassyt javascript... we hatesss it, yess.07:09
cyphaselol07:09
matjan_does anyone have a speedstream dsl modem?07:09
cyphaseGeurin, found it07:11
cyphasei think07:11
cyphasehttp://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html07:12
LordKahlesswhen u boot single user mode, what run level does linux default to?07:12
Amaranthwhatever the CLI one is07:12
Amaranth3?07:12
bob2LordKahless: 107:12
bob2Amaranth: 2-5 are identical in ubuntu07:13
Amaranthoh07:13
LordKahlesscoz my lappy boots fine in single, but not normally07:13
Amaranthi thought 1 was reboot07:13
XenguyAmaranth: 007:13
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Amaranthwhat is shutdown?07:13
bob2607:13
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Amaranthhrm07:14
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bob2er, other way round07:14
Amaranthsomething on my machine is busted badly07:14
LordKahlessi cant figure out what the problem is with ubuntu :/07:14
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Amaranthsynaptic just said it couldn't write a file and gnome-terminal froze on loading07:14
bob20 = halt, 6 = reboot07:14
LordKahlesswhen i boot normally it makes this wierd picture when trying to start gdm07:15
cthulfuegosynaptic reckons all my X apckages are pinned.07:15
LordKahlessbut single usermode works fine, and when i start gdm it works fine07:15
bob2with the regular drivers?07:15
cthulfuegodpkg disagrees07:15
Xenguymy error...07:15
Xenguy# Runlevel 0 is halt.07:15
Xenguy# Runlevel 1 is single-user.07:15
Xenguy# Runlevels 2-5 are multi-user.07:15
Xenguy# Runlevel 6 is reboot.07:15
Amaranthbrb07:15
LordKahlesswell i know the las tthing my puter does before screwing up it say "starting laptop services" i think, whats that?07:16
cyphaseholy shit..07:16
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cyphasedoes anyone know if there are utilities that will obfuscate code for you?07:16
cyphaselol07:16
bob2why?07:16
cyphaseCNN seems to be using it in their video playing javascript code07:16
bob2there are indeed07:17
bob2that's pretty lame tho07:17
Xenguy. o O (and so is CNN)07:17
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whittiHow do you leave the x server and get back to a console in hoary?07:18
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Xenguywhitti: Shift-Alt F#07:18
atyanyone here know how to config ftdp?07:18
bob2ctrl-alt-f107:18
whittiXenguy: thanks07:18
bob2I don't htink it's ever had a shift in there07:18
Xenguywhitti: yw07:18
thieflarHey everyone.07:18
Xenguysorry - gah07:18
Xenguywhitti: Ctrl-Alt F#07:19
thieflarOk, I just installed Ubuntu, and my screen resolution is fixed at 640x480.... it won't let me change it. I'm pretty sure this means my graphics card isn't being recognized or something, and is there any way I can fix it without getting a new monitor?07:19
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Xenguythieflar: what's yer card?07:20
Amaranthick07:20
Amaranth/ got remounted read-only, that means it had an error07:20
Amaranthran fsck and rebooted07:20
bob2er07:20
bob2you should have read dmesg first07:20
hondjeresolution generally means horiz/vert settings in the Monitor section. Run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (I think)07:20
cthulfuegoIs X in breezy still broken?07:21
Amaranthit's funny, when / get remounted read-only and an error about that gets sent to the root mailbox you get more errors because it can't write to the root mailbox07:21
Amaranthbob2: I knew I forgot something.07:21
hondjeAmaranth: heh, happened to me about three weeks ago07:21
hondjewas a wild ride until I managed to get shutdown -Fr going07:21
Amaranthi had about 100 bonobo-activation-server processes open on me07:21
cthulfuegoAmaranth: You running breezy, is X still busted or is there an easy workaround?07:22
Amaranthcthulfuego: I don't know, it works here.07:23
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cthulfuegoOkay07:23
Amaranthcthulfuego: lots of workarounds07:23
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cthulfuegoAmaranth: url?07:23
Amaranthcthulfuego: i don't know if any of them are needed are even still there through all the upgrades07:23
Amaranthcthulfuego: I got them from the channel, dunno what they were07:23
cthulfuegookay, i'll grp ubotus log07:23
Amaranthwe've had about 10-20 new releases of X since07:23
Amaranthnot this channel07:24
Amaranth-devel07:24
cthulfuegod'oh :-)07:24
kittymag?07:24
naliothkittymag: howdy07:24
naliothwell07:25
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soopurmani've created a new character-special file in /dev using 'mknod' and set the ownership and permissions the way i want them.  now how can i get this to stay persisten accross reboots ?07:27
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soopurman(in fedora i could just copy the file into /etc/udev/devices but that doesn't seem to work in ubuntu)07:29
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darylstyrkEvening everyone.07:29
dr_willishmm.07:30
thieflarI did the reconfiguring thing, same problem.07:30
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thieflarIs there any way to install a different video driver or something?07:30
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dstyrkhow are noob questions handled here?07:30
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hondjedstyrk: with answers07:31
dstyrkAh..07:31
dstyrkcool07:31
hondjeyeah, concur :)07:31
Amaranthanyone know the command to remount /dev/hda1 rw?07:31
Amaranthinstead of rebooting, i figure this will be easier07:32
Amaranthi've done it before...07:32
soopurmansudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda107:32
Amaranthcool07:32
dstyrkOk, so I am hours old to Linux, can I install and run ubuntu linux from an external HD?07:32
bob2dstyrk: no07:33
bob2not unless you can make your bios boot that07:33
thieflarSo should I keep scouring google and plaguing tech support forums or does anyone have any more suggestions?07:33
dstyrkThanks.. I didn't think so.07:33
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bob2"tech support forums"? ask on the ubuntu mailing list.07:33
thieflarOk, I'll try that.07:34
thieflarThanks.07:34
soopurmanthieflar: have you tried xorgcfg ?07:34
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soopurmandstyrk: what kind of external hd?  if its usb and your computer isnt too old, you should be able to get it to work...07:35
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soopurmandstyrk: if not, then you still have some other linux options for it: such as using booting up with knoppix (a "live" cd) and then using your external drive for a persistent home directory07:36
dstyrkNext question.. Is there a good quick read though to be able to get up and running with Ubuntu linux?  Pretty much, I just want to be able to install and use my computer with linux quickly..  I really want or need to know every detail right now..07:37
dstyrkI have 160GB LaCiw D207:37
thieflarsoopurman: no, I haven't. Uh, I hate to ask, but can you tell me exactly how to? Just run "xorgcfg"?07:37
dstyrk*LaCie*07:37
soopurmanthieflar: logout of your current desktop.  at the GDM prompt press ctrl-alt-f1 on your keyboard.  login.  type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"  and then "sudo xorgcfg"07:39
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cthulfuego!xcf is <reply> 'sudo dpkg-reocnfigure xserver-xorg' - Make sure to READ the info you get given, so you don't come back here to ask what you should enter in a field you were told to just leave blank.07:39
ubotuokay, cthulfuego07:39
cthulfuego!xcfg is <reply> 'sudo dpkg-reocnfigure xserver-xorg' - Make sure to READ the info you get given, so you don't come back here to ask what you should enter in a field you were told to just leave blank.07:39
ubotucthulfuego: okay07:39
cthulfuego!foget xcf07:39
ubotucthulfuego: Wish i knew07:39
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cthulfuegogod, my typing is shit07:39
dstyrkI'm a little stoned myself.....07:40
dstyrklol07:40
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dstyrkcold eh' where are you at?07:40
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cthulfuegoMelbourne07:40
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dstyrktemp?07:41
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glDaherI have a problem, something or someone is editing my /etc/resolv.conf config and putting the nameserver back to my modem... which is wrong... I should put there the IP that the ISP supplied... I edit the file manually, and after a while it is changed again, this is happening for a week now.. where to start???07:41
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cthulfuegoglDaher: ppp rewrites the file when you reconnect.07:41
cthulfuegoglDaher: Edit it, then run 'sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf'07:42
dstyrkHow do you address individuals?07:42
cthulfuegodstyrk: By typing their names07:42
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dstyrkisn't there a shortcut to that?07:42
cthulfuegodstyrk: By typing the first (few) letters of their names and hitting the TAB key.07:43
glDaherthx cthulfuego, but should I keep the "search lan" entry?07:43
cthulfuegoglDaher: yeah07:43
glDaheror just put the dns in there07:43
glDaher?07:43
glDaherremove then07:43
glDaherthx07:43
glDaher;)07:43
karlhegdstyrk, use \msg nick message here07:43
cthulfuegoglDaher: Note that you will need to chattr -i resolv.conf again before you can make any more changes.07:44
dstyrk\msg cthulfuego that's with ubuntu only right?07:44
dstyrkhumm.. that didn't work..07:44
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dstyrkUmm...07:45
glDahercthulfuego: yep I know just looking at the man pages now... thanks a lot dude!07:45
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soopurmancthulfuego: do you know how to prevent udev from clobbering new entries in /dev after a reboot?07:45
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djsdstyrk: try the other slash (ie. /msg)07:45
dstyrkah07:46
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cthulfuegosoopurman: no idea07:47
thieflarOk, I ran xorgcfg, got this error message: Fatal system error. Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devices.07:47
antoI want the shell to ask me for confirmation before doing deleting a file, overwriting a file etc.07:47
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dr_willisanto,  there are some alias's you can make for 'rm' and 'mv' and some other shell optiosn that will make them ask/verify07:48
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cthulfuegoanto: echo -e "alias rm=rm -i\nalias mv=mv -i" >> ~/.bash_profile07:48
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dr_willisalias rm = "rm -i"07:48
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cthulfuegowatch that spacing07:49
soopurmani would put it in your ~/.bashrc07:49
segfaulthey all. what's the bugzilla url for hoary backports?07:49
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antoI will try it. mandrake had this feature07:49
dr_willisactually a lot of disrtos default to that  :P07:49
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eyequeuealias cp="cp -i"07:49
dr_willisthats what they proberly did in the ystem wide bashrc/profile07:49
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eyequeuealias mv="mv -i"07:49
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soopurmanthieflar: are you on a laptop ?07:50
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thieflarsoopurman: No.07:50
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soopurmanwhat kind of graphics card / GPU do you have ?07:50
antoI remember that BASH has some variable named clobber in RHL07:50
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cthulfuegosoopurman: Are you asking a specific user or did you want 400 answers?07:51
dr_willistheres a noclobber option - but thats for redirections I think07:51
thieflarcthulfuego: he was asking me07:51
soopurmancthulfuego: that was just for thieflar07:51
dr_willisecho "Hello" >> foo07:51
bl4cktonehow do I bring up the user list in xchat I seem to have lost it07:51
thieflarsoopurman: I'm not sure, and I'm not sure how to find out.07:51
ninwabl4cktone, Hehe, it's probably just shrunk, it should be on the right side, try expanding it07:51
ninwathe place with the three dots should have handles07:52
ninwaa little <--> :)07:52
bl4cktoneninwa nope I'm pretty sure it's gone07:52
ninwahm oh07:52
robzulahI installed Eterm via synaptic, when I open the default terminal that came with Ubuntu and type Eterm to run eterm it opens for a split second then closes and tells me: Eterm: Error: Can't open pseudo-tty -- No such file or directory. Eterm: Error: Unable to run sub-command.07:52
dstyrkninwa:07:52
robzulahAnyone know why?07:52
bl4cktonejust this chat window I don't see two scroll bars on the right side07:52
ninwadid you poke around preferences -> user list?07:52
ninwadstyrk, Yes?07:52
dstyrkninwa:  oops never mind07:53
ninwa:)07:53
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bl4cktonegawd I feel stupid07:53
bl4cktoneyeah pref07:53
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dstyrkIs it easy to get the Live CD to run from an external HD?07:53
ninwaGlad to be of help :)07:53
ninwadstyrk, The idea of the Live CD is to run it from CD!07:54
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ninwaYou mean, put Linux on an External HD and boot from it?07:54
dstyrkYeah....07:54
bl4cktonewhat do you guys think of enlightenment?07:54
ninwaI don't know how many bios will recognize an external HD through Firewire or USB I imagine, and boot from it07:54
dr_willisbl4cktone,  its been eye candy for years. :P07:54
ninwaso the short answer is, probably pretty difficult07:54
dstyrkEither I guess... I'm just trying to get a better idea..07:54
bl4cktonedr_willis not that eyecandy is bad07:55
dstyrkI'm on an eMac..07:55
dr_willisi reall the ubuntu install saw my external usb hard drive and 'said' it could install there.. but i never tried it..07:55
X7Chow much will the performance of my computer boost if i use the correspondant kernel? (386->K7)07:55
dr_willisbl4cktone,  it loses its luster real fast. :P07:55
X7Cdoes anybody knwo?07:55
ninwaI guess that answers it then.07:55
X7Cat least if it does change or works in some form better?07:55
robzulahHmm, so does anyone know what pseudo-tty is?07:56
Lafitte-dr_willis, after all the setup   hhhehe07:56
bl4cktonedr_willis what do you recomend for for making it look soo good?07:56
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dr_willisbl4cktone,  i dont reccomend it at all really :P i cant think of any real features it has that make it stand out  - other then the epplets. and eye candy. and even then - its sort of not that impressive any more.07:57
mcalCan I do a network install with ubuntu?07:57
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Lafitte-mcal,  could rsync a network drive07:58
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Lafitte-http://www.gooyaglehoo.com/index.php08:00
mcalLafitte: humm... not familiar with that.  I was referring to something similar to what RH offers.  A network bootdisk that will transfer and install over the network.  I'm interested in trying ubuntu out but don't have a CD drive (...long story).08:00
ghostlesswhats the command for installing a .deb package?08:00
bl4cktonedr_willis I'm guessing it's like when people load up that sea theme on win9x machines and it's all blue and crappy looking with some scuba guy swimming as a pointer08:00
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mlambiei just bought a 64 bit athlon machine to replace an old 1.7ghz Celeron. should i use an SMP kernel on it (is it like the Pentium IV that has Hyper Threading?)08:00
robzulahHmm, so can anyone direct me to whre I can find out about pseudo-tty? I really would like to get Eterm running08:00
eyequeueghostless:  sudo dpkg -i foo.deb08:01
ghostlessthanks08:01
bl4cktonelots of talk about eterm going around08:01
robzulahI cant get it to run08:01
Lafitte-mcal,  cant download and make cd ?08:01
bl4cktonesame with a few others earlier08:01
bl4cktonethink I'll give it a shot08:01
robzulahProbably just me talking about eterm, cant find any help08:01
bl4cktonewas a razor-x guy talking about it08:02
Razor-Xbl4cktone: i'm in eterm!!! ;)08:02
Guerinmlambie: no.08:02
Razor-Xoh, hahahaha!!!08:02
Razor-Xhow ironic08:02
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Razor-XI come in right when we start talking about eterm08:02
bl4cktoneyeah robzulah might be able to ask you some questions08:03
Razor-Xrobzulah: hte majority of the help you'll get with eterm is the man page... or me ;)08:03
Razor-X*the08:03
bl4cktoneI'm thinking about installing it now08:03
mcalLafitte: I already have the CD.  But can only install over a network.  Wanted to know if ubuntu supported that.08:03
Razor-Xbl4cktone: it's nice, takes some configuration, but it's nice08:03
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microhaxoguys, i have two rar files, how can i extract them08:04
mlambieGuerin, thanks08:04
microhaxoi have installed unrar but cant find how to use it08:04
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bl4cktonemicrohaxo http://ubuntuguide.org/#rar08:04
robzulahRazor-x: Any idea why when running eterm it closes before I can do anything and in gnome-terminal (what I am using to run eterm) it would tell me Eterm: Error: Can't open pseudo-tty -- No such file or directory. Eterm: Error: Unable to run sub-command.?08:05
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Razor-Xrobzulah: hmmm... a friend got that same error08:06
Guerinmicrohaxo: man unrar08:06
Razor-Xit's odd, try reinstalling08:06
Razor-Xor, as I did, compile it08:06
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bl4cktonecompile sounds scary08:07
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Razor-XI compiled it for speed, and native twin support08:07
Razor-Xbl4cktone: what's so scary about it? Linux has made it a painless process08:07
robzulahme and compiling dont get along, I dont think I've ever successfully compiled a program, my copy of Ubuntu is always missing -something- it seems08:07
Razor-Xrobzulah: then download that08:07
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bl4cktoneRazor-X well the thing is I don't know what it means day 2 linux user here08:07
dr_willisapt-get install all the dev stuff :P08:07
Razor-Xrobzulah: for eterm, you need the x libraries (search on apt-get)08:07
Razor-Xand libast and libast-dev08:08
Razor-Xand I think that's it08:08
Razor-Xif it complains about a lib, apt-get it08:08
Guerinbl4cktone: if you're a 2-day linux user, why do you NEED eterm?08:08
dr_willisactually - isent there an apt-get command to get all the dev packages a package needs?08:08
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dr_willisheh. eterm :P08:08
Guerinbuild-essential08:08
robzulahalright, thank you Razor-x08:08
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Razor-Xoh, hmmm, there you are, I didn't know that ;)08:08
bl4cktoneGuerin don't need it just would like to get used to installing programs and making my way around08:08
Razor-Xapt-get build-essential eterm08:08
sysrqdr_willis: build-dep08:08
Razor-X.........08:09
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Razor-Xok, I don't know this command08:09
GuerinRazor-X: you still have to use a verb08:09
sysrqRazor-X: build-essential is a meta-package, not an apt-get command08:09
robzulahRazor-x: Sorry, one last thing.  Think it might not work because I'm using a PPC?08:09
bl4cktoneGuerin have gone though the ubuntuguide.org already starting to get the gist of apt-get08:09
Razor-Xsysrq: ahhh, I see08:09
Razor-Xrobzulah: hmmmm... dunno then... :\08:09
Razor-Xtry it anyways, though08:10
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Razor-XI love my eterm now! ^_^08:10
mithrohi! how can I improve my 3d performance on my laptop?08:10
Razor-Xand the background picture too.....08:10
Razor-Xand the color schema08:10
bl4cktoneheh it was giving you a headeche for a while08:10
Razor-Xi'm adding emacs mode binds08:10
sysrqonce Eterm supports UTF-8, ill switch back to it08:10
Razor-Xbl4cktone: actually I lost 4 hours of sleep08:10
eyequeuesudo apt-get install build-essential ; sudo apt-get build-dep eterm ; apt-get -b source eterm ; dpkg -i eterm*.deb08:10
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Lafitte-mithro,  Web Results 1 - 10 of about 7,080 for ubuntu improve 3d performance. (0.41 seconds)08:11
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bl4cktoneHow would I get started on a eterm install?08:11
Razor-XI just couldn't sleep08:11
Razor-Xand had a bad dream of eterm mocking me!08:11
bl4cktonelol08:11
Razor-Xbl4cktone: sudo apt-get install eterm08:11
bl4cktoneRazor-X here we go!08:12
mithroLafitte-: well, I've tried a bunch of things i found on the web08:12
mithrobut it seems to have actually reduced my performance08:12
bl4cktoneok done08:12
mithroand I can't seem to get it back to the state it was in :/08:12
Lafitte-mithro,  what video card you have ?08:12
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bl4cktoneRazor-X so now it's in?08:14
mithroa crappy i85508:14
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mithroI use to get ~600 fps in glxgears08:14
mithronow I am only getting ~30008:14
Lafitte-oic08:14
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Lafitte-mithro, 7160 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1432.000 FPS08:15
ThE__OnEhow do i change the color of the things around applications to default?08:16
Lafitte-you know it depends on the size of the screen right ??08:16
mithroLafitte-: i have the screen the normal size when it starts up08:16
mithroLafitte-: what chipset is that?08:16
MahlWhat rig are you running Lafitte- ?08:16
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Lafitte-mithro, 8695 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1739.000 FPS08:16
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microhaxoguys, i downloaded a file off of a torrent and its windows xp cuz i need to repair windows, however it doesnt say what type of  file it is.08:17
Lafitte-i have the i915 chipset centrino08:17
microhaxohow can i check and see what file it is?08:17
demarhi there08:17
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mithroLafitte-: do you think i should be getting similar performace with my i855?08:17
Lafitte-mithro, 19611 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3922.200 FPS08:17
demari've got a litte problem with my soundcard, can anybady help me?08:17
Lafitte-not even close08:17
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mithroLafitte-: he he, so around 600 should be right?08:18
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Lafitte-mithro,  i think better then 600   though08:18
mithroLafitte-: ahh okay08:18
Lafitte-but    what resolution is your desktop ?08:18
mithro1024x76808:18
mithroLafitte-: could you private message me the versions of your x.org etc?08:19
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Lafitte-mithro,   SURE START THE PIVATE08:19
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demarmy line in just don't works. wheter i checked my configuration with alsamixer, i don't know why i don't here something08:19
Lafitte-oops  sorry for caps  watching tv hehe08:19
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bl4cktoneRazor-X what would I do next?08:20
microhaxoWTF08:20
dataangelHow do I get syntax highlighting in python mode in emacs? Every other distribution I've ever used (about 9 :P) had it on by default.08:20
djsdemar: Line In might be muted by default ...08:20
microhaxoi downloaded this windows off of bittorent and it says its a DOS executable,  its 600mb how the hell can i burn this ?08:20
dataangeldoh nm there's a menu item, I assumed it'd be an ultra obscure emacs-lisp command :P08:20
demarno it isn't08:21
siimohi im thinking of putting warty on my laptop does it support moibility radeon X30008:21
demari just looked it up08:21
djsdemar: Ah OK.08:21
bl4cktoneSo now that I've done sudo apt-get install eterm what's next?08:21
ravuyaeterm &08:21
dataangelerr08:22
dataangelEterm & (caps is important)08:22
djsdemar: was that via Applications -> Sound & Video -> Volume Control ?08:22
ravuyasiimo: I would check the ATI website, you would be using their (terrible) driver08:22
demarno via alsamixer08:22
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dataangelthe new ati driver is a gigantic improvement, can do composite now, and has xrandr support08:22
dataangelnot sure if it supports x300 yet though, check the rage3d forums (google it)08:22
bl4cktoneWhoa! Eterm looks pretty swank08:22
siimook thanks08:23
demarthat is stupid, i don't want to boot windows only for wathching tv ...08:23
neighborleefirst time seeing errors like this running synaptic from menu and wondering if anyone else is ? ..ie: failed to run /usr/bin/synaptic: unable to copy users Xauthorization file.08:24
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dataangelneighborlee: are you running synaptic with sudo?08:24
djsdemar: Have a look in there (just in case).  You might need to change to the Alsa Mixer from the File menu.08:25
OctaneI started a blog about my Ubuntu install process for anyone that's interested - http://ubuntuforums.org/journal.php?do=showjournal&j=14208:25
bl4cktoneSo Eterm is a eyecandy terminal08:25
dataangelbl4cktone: Yes :)08:26
demaryou mena the gui for the alsamixer, right?08:26
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demarnothing muted, everythink on 100% volum08:26
neighborleedataangel, admin menu > synaptic08:26
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microhaxoGuys08:27
brodmannhey08:27
microhaxohow do i burn an image.nrg08:27
microhaxothats a nero image file08:27
microhaxocan i rename it to iso08:27
dataangelneighborlee: Did it ask you for your password?08:27
djsdemar: Fair enough.  /me stumped now.08:27
brodmannhow do i read the menu.lst file when it is a read only file08:27
microhaxo?08:27
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sysrqmicrohaxo: google would be the proper place for such a question08:27
neighborleedataangel, yup sure did and I gave my user password08:27
dataangelbrodmann: A file being read only lets you read it. You just can't write to it.08:27
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brodmannactually, i want to change the file, not just read it08:27
demar?08:27
dataangelneighborlee: Hrm not sure then.08:27
neighborleedataangel, it runs fine from console with sudo though..weird08:27
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demar?08:27
brodmannthen how do i change the grub list?08:28
demardon't know?08:28
demari'm new on irc08:28
dataangelneighborlee: Hmm.. maybe look at the properties for the menu item and see what command it's using and if it's different from what you're typing into terminal.08:28
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dataangelbrodmann: If you're root (using sudo) it doesn't care if it's read only.08:28
dataangelbrodmann: If you have root privileges you can do anything :)08:28
neighborleedataangel, k08:28
rlkleeHow can I move my Ubuntu cd to my hard drive, and, for instance, have synaptic read from that?08:29
ThE__OnEhow do i change the color of the things around applications to default?08:29
arkainiumhmm.. I need to buy a flash card reader... I'm trying to figure out how well supported they are.  For example, http://tinyurl.com/7dp9u08:29
dataangelrlklee: I'm not sure because I've never had it happen, but if you look at /etc/apt/sources.list, it already has the CD-ROM as a repository for synaptic.08:29
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demarwhat is stumped?08:30
rlkleedataangel: I don't quite understant what you mean... what I want to do is take my Ubuntu cd, throw it all on the hard drive somewhere, and then use *that* as a repository.08:31
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djsdemar: Australian for "unable to think of anything else"08:32
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ThE__OnEanyone help?08:32
rlkleeIsn't there a way I can burn it as an ISO image and then mount it?08:32
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dataangelrlklee: Just toss the whole CD into a folder, and read the man page for sources.list. It explains how to add a file repository.08:33
rlkleeAh, okay. Thanks.08:33
dataangelrlklee: I think that'll work but haven't tried it myself.08:33
daniel^rlklee: i believe08:33
dataangelhe just quit :P08:34
daniel^yeah08:34
daniel^pressed enter instead of backspace08:34
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bl4cktonedang I'm having fun with eterm08:37
bl4cktoneit's all doing the --trans --tint Blue08:38
daniel^:)08:38
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john__does anyone know how i can get tomboy working i get this error when starting it (Tomboy:7340): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:08:39
john__Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.08:39
bl4cktoneHow do you guys start your eterm up?08:40
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_paxEterm08:40
bl4cktonewith changes that is08:40
_paxhanges?08:40
bl4cktoneI've only got it transparent with blue tint *claps hands like school girl*08:41
_paxlol08:41
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ThE__OnEhow do i change the color of the things around applications to default?08:41
john__can anyone help?08:41
frankyhey, could anyone help me? i'm trying to install xmms and it keeps saying i need a newer version of glib08:41
frankyyou mean the color of the window? isnt that a theme?08:42
topylijohn__: how are you starting tomboy?08:42
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john__from the menu using run08:43
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bl4cktoneanyone know a good site to get backgrounds for gnome? while I'm at it where do I store the pictures so it gets picked up by Desktop Background Preferences?08:44
topylijohn__: try the terminal, use "tomboy --tray-icon"08:44
goye2czis there an easy way to toggle between american english and central european czech keyboard layouts while using ubuntu?08:44
_paxtopyli: check http://www.evolutioncolt.com/mainweb/?q=node/1308:44
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john__thanks topyli08:45
topyli_pax: i know :)08:45
_paxbl4cktone: art.gnome.org is no good?08:45
bl4cktone_pax just never knew about it08:46
topylijohn__: add that to system -> preferences -> sessions -> startup if you want it to run every session08:46
john__is there a way to start it without needing a terminal window08:46
john__ok08:46
topylijohn__: for some reason it doesn't work if you try the panel applet, but this is just as well08:47
john__is there something like that for beagle too? when i try clicking on accessories/best it doesnt start and i get a error using the terminal08:48
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_paxgoye2cz: I'm reading about what you need here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39413&highlight=keyboard+layouts08:49
topylijohn__: are you sure your beagle installation is sane? http://beaglewiki.org/index.php/UbuntuInstall08:50
john__anyone know what i need to do to fix this configure: error: not found.08:50
john__Possibly configure picks up an outdated version08:50
john__installed by XFree86. Remove it from your system.08:50
john__<br />08:50
john__Check your installation and look into config.log08:50
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john__topyli: im not sure i used the install from the package manager08:51
ThE__OnEhow do i tell Snaptic Packager to install a certain package?08:51
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ThE__OnEanyone help?08:51
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topylijohn__: that probably won't take care of it. look at the beaglewiki link i pasted above08:51
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robzulahAnyone here ever MUD and use TinyFugue?08:52
goye2cz_pax: thanks bunches, it helped.08:53
_paxgoye2cz: welcome.08:54
topyliThE__OnE: select the package, choose "force version" from the menu08:54
topyliThE__OnE: the "package" menu in the menubar that is08:54
john__k im checking that page08:55
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microhaxoguys i need a WINDOWSXP RECOVERY BOOTDISK08:57
Razor-Xback08:57
microhaxoanyone know where to get one?08:57
Razor-Xso, if anyone needs Eterm help, go ahead08:57
bl4cktonehey guys I did sudo apt-get install kismet and it finished. Anything special I'm supposed to do next?08:57
Razor-Xmicrohaxo: why? this is an Ubuntu channel, if I may ask08:57
microhaxobecause08:57
microhaxomy windows got FUBARD08:57
vinuxHey guys does anyone know if ubuntu will come out with more CDs as in all the pkgs on them instead of downloading from sources?08:57
microhaxoso08:57
Razor-Xmicrohaxo: ;)08:57
microhaxowhere can i get a windowsxp recovery disk08:57
microhaxoi need to repair boot08:58
microhaxowinlogon.exe08:58
microhaxoand a dll08:58
bl4cktoneI'm using my wifi internal at the moment but would like to get kismet working also08:58
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Razor-Xdo a google search for a WinXP bootup disk, but I can't get you a recovery disk08:58
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Razor-Xrecovery comes with your XP CD08:58
microhaxok08:58
microhaxoyea08:58
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microhaxomine is too scratched up08:58
microhaxoso08:58
microhaxothere is no recovery?08:58
topylimicrohaxo: you really need to talk to some windows users, we don't know :)08:58
microhaxolol08:58
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microhaxoaight08:58
bl4cktoneUBCD?08:58
bl4cktoneWhat are you trying to do with a recovery cd?08:59
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john__lol i managed scratch my xp pro cd :( and its oem so cant get another copy08:59
daniel^good for you09:00
Guerinyou're better off.09:00
mlambiecan alien convert x86 RPMs into x86_64 (AMD64) packages?09:00
daniel^go linux full-time!09:00
Amaranthmlambie: No.09:00
Guerinmlambie: no, you'd need to rebuild from source09:00
JHBuddylol Guerin --- I agree ... better off09:00
bl4cktoneJust bit torrent your self a ISO of windows pro if you own it there is no prob09:00
Guerinbl4cktone: wrong.09:00
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bl4cktoneGuerin wrong?09:00
_paxbl4cktone: don09:01
vinuxI would like to send ubuntu to a friend of mine but he has a 28k modem LOL. ummm anyone have some good Ideas about putting all ubuntu pkgs on CDs?09:01
mlambiecan i run an x86 kernel on an AMD 64 then? :)09:01
Guerinbl4cktone: it's just as illegal to pirate a copy of winxp if you have an oem cd as if you'd never bought the thing.09:01
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Guerinmlambie: amd64 is 100% ia32 (x86)_ compatible09:01
JHBuddyQuestion from a first time Ubuntu user ... does it support apt-get update?09:01
AmaranthJHBuddy: yes09:02
JHBuddyor is there something better for it?09:02
hyrax42what's the best way to get gtk emacs in ubuntu?09:02
ThE__OnEthe Synaptic Package Manager quits after i press fore version, any ideas?09:02
john__bl4cktone: where can i find xp oem09:02
Guerinmlambie: but you need to choose one or the other, or run one arch in a chroot.09:02
JHBuddyThanx Amaranth09:02
hyrax42I'd really rather use some sort of deb over compile from cvs09:02
mlambieok09:02
mlambiehow can I select the mode I'm operating in? is that entirely based on the kernel I boot?09:02
bl4cktoneGuerin If he has 1 Licence Key then it doesn't matter how many copies of the CD he has he is licenced to have it on one computer with that one key no mater how it's installed it can even be installed over network if you own a licence key there is no pirating going on09:03
topylihyrax42: it's in the universe repository (xemacs-gnome or some such)09:03
hyrax42xemacs?09:03
topyliyeah09:03
ThE__OnEanyone help?09:03
hyrax42I thought it was gnu emacs that had gtk2 support09:03
djsvinux: burn him a hoary CD09:03
hyrax42and that gnu had "pulled ahead" in this respect09:03
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topylihyrax42: oh. that could be :)09:04
john__bl4cktone: do you know where i can download it i do have a legal key09:04
topylihyrax42: xemacs is gtk-109:04
Guerinbl4cktone: if that were true, why can't he get another copy from whence he bought it?09:04
_root_anybody got the patch for cpio directory traversal vulnerability ?09:04
Amaranthbl4cktone: He needs to find an ISO of an OEM CD then.09:04
ThE__OnEthe Synaptic Package Manager quits after i press fore version, any ideas?09:04
JHBuddyI've had issues on my notebook with Redhat (9) and PCMCIA support for my eth card & firewire card ... any such known issues with Ubuntu?09:04
ThE__OnEforce09:04
Amaranthbl4cktone: But not just any OEM CD, the one from the company his computer is from.09:04
Guerinhyrax42: there is - xemacs-gtk2 used to be in debian sid, iirc, but it doesn't seem to be now.09:05
john__its just a plain oem cd09:05
hyrax42Guerin, huh... I'll have to reinvestigate09:05
Guerinjohn__: this is not a warez channel.09:05
hyrax42bed time now anyhow09:05
john__not dell not some special company09:05
Guerinhyrax42: if it was in debian sid, the source will be on snapshot.debian.net, and you can probably build it trivially on ubuntu.09:06
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Guerinhyrax42: buit my brain might just be rotting.09:06
bl4cktoneGuerin I went to a seminar on windows Microsoft only cares if you have 1 licence key per computer some licence keys can handle many computers like some pro say 1-2 computers on the key09:06
ThE__OnEhellooooooooooo09:06
john__its not warez i have a legal copy its just damaged09:06
Amaranthjohn__: Wrong. My Gateway OEM CD doesn't work on non-Gateway hardware.09:06
hyrax42Guerin, no worries, I'll solve it tomorrow09:06
hyrax42I'm not even in linux atm...09:06
Guerinbl4cktone: 'only cares' != 'not illegal'09:06
ThE__OnEwhy dont you guys help with a real problem? HUH?09:06
hyrax42thanks :)09:06
ThE__OnEthe Synaptic Package Manager quits after i press fore version, any ideas?09:06
AmaranthAnyway, this is all very much off topic.09:06
ThE__OnEforce*09:06
GuerinThE__OnE: strace09:06
bl4cktoneguerin and you only get 1 cd for mult licence09:07
ThE__OnEstrace?09:07
karlheghyrax42, [System, Administration, Synaptic ...] , and search for it.09:07
john__yes but there are plain oem disks that are not like gateway oems09:07
Amaranthbl4cktone: Please drop it.09:07
GuerinThE__OnE: congratulations, you get the Reading badge!09:07
ThE__OnEthanks09:07
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ThE__OnEam i the first one in here thats getting it?09:07
ThE__OnElooks that way09:07
robzulahRazor-x: Turns out my big problem (the reason I was trying to use eterm) isnt my terminal.  Have you ever used TinyFugue?09:07
bl4cktoneAmaranth No prob just had to say my thing09:08
hyrax42karlheg, I'll take a look, thanks09:08
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ThE__OnEthe Synaptic Package Manager quits after i press force version, any ideas?09:08
GuerinThE__OnE: strace09:08
AmaranthThE__OnE: Unless you can provide more info the answer is to not press force version.09:09
ThE__OnEthats for finding errors09:09
ThE__OnEIam tryint to force install Enlightment v1709:09
GuerinThE__OnE: yes, strace is a tool which might tell you why it's breaking. But I suggest just not using synaptic.09:09
ThE__OnEbeta09:09
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ThE__OnEanyone know09:10
GuerinThE__OnE: try aptitude install enlightenment=17.whatever.badger.version.it.is09:10
ThE__OnE?09:10
JHBuddyLet me ask the question differently - any1 here done multiple successful notebook installations with PCMCIA ethernet and firewire cards09:10
ThE__OnEok 1 sec09:10
topyliThE__OnE: oh, e17 might still be uninstallable, broken, or break other things, whatever09:10
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Guerintopyli: but that wouldn't cause synaptic to break in and of itself... unless it's developed prescience.09:11
topyliGuerin: yeah well, that's true09:11
ThE__OnEi know, i think it worked Guerin, thanks09:12
owlmanattI've just installed Ubuntu on an old iBook (one of them clamshell things), and I want to change the 2nd and 3rd mouse buttons from F11 and F12 to shift+click and alt+click...how can I do this? I know I need to edit /etc/sysctl.conf, but I have no idea how to get the values for those keys...09:12
topyliowlmanatt: with xev09:12
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owlmanatttopyli: I can't make any sense of out of the output of xev.09:14
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AndyRlo all09:14
topyliowlmanatt: i don't seem to find an easy way to define the modifier key states either :)09:15
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vinuxhey guys I did #sudo apt-get install all?  <----  In Terminal. So that's shows all the pkg I can download right?09:17
owlmanatttopyli: Hum, I can figure out keycodes for individual keys...but not combinations of keys09:17
owlmanattAnd the mouse button is just 'button one' instead of 'keycode xx'09:17
topyliowlmanatt: hrm. i think this calls for study09:18
JHBuddyvinux ... It should09:18
cthulfuegoowlmanatt: The sysctl adb way doesn't allw for using mouse+key, only for key.09:19
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cthulfuegoowlmanatt: get yerself a cheap small usb mouse09:19
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vinuxJHBuddy, well I need to download all those pkgs and put them on CD for a friend. He has a 28k modem hehe09:19
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owlmanattcthulfuego: I'm incredibly broke at the moment, so I guess I'll have to make due09:19
owlmanattcthulfuego: Thanks for telling me that it doesn't support combos though, that saved me a few days of googling :)09:20
cthulfuegoowlmanatt: Just f11/F12 it is, then :-)09:20
MorphDKHey.. I've got some problems with my sound.. I insert the modules, and alsamixer looks fine, but no sound :(09:20
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JHBuddyvinux ... never tried to re-use what it installed, but theoretically the install files should sit somewhere on the disk, and you can burn them to CD09:21
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vinuxJHBuddy, oh well I guess I should make my self clear hehe. The pkgs I'm trying to put on CD are the downloadable ones so my friend won't have to use his slow modem to download the pkgs he wants from the interent09:23
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JHBuddyvinux ... that'09:23
mithrowell i'm back to 600 fps09:23
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JHBuddyvinux ... that's what I gathered, I've never tried to re-use packages that apt installed on my machine, but it should put it somewhere on your disk and then you can burn it to cd09:24
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djsvinux: Why not just send him a Hoary CD?09:24
topylivinux: /var/cache/apt/archives09:24
djs*him/her09:25
topylii think09:25
JHBuddyvinux ... apt-get install is usually used to install additional packages - do you know what packages he requires?09:25
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JHBuddyhe/she09:25
djs*him :) (having re-read a bit better)09:26
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JHBuddydjs ... you made me doubt for a mo' as well09:26
vinuxJHBuddy, nope. oh it's a he lol. Oh I just wanted to download all of them and maybe they can fit on like 8 cds or something. I don't want to install them on my system09:26
djsJHBuddy: Sorry 'bout that :)09:26
JHBuddyjds ... no prob :-)09:27
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vinuxJHBuddy, you think it would take like 8cds? hehe09:29
JHBuddyvinux ... u got me ... never tried it, and not sure how many cd's it will take ... what about doing a plain ubuntu install on a machine, then run apt-get update, cut those file to another CD and send him both the Ubuntu and update CDs to start with ... unless you know what else he requires ...09:29
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JHBuddyAnyone ever tried to burn all the apt-get packages to CD ... I'm interested in knowing how many cd's it will need09:30
odie5533What is a good console-based web browser?09:30
vinuxJHBuddy, hmmm maybe I"ll just ask him what he needs then put those pkgs on CD for him09:30
snaderodie5533: try w3m09:30
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owlmanattAny way to remove openoffice without removing ubuntu-desktop? Ubuntu-desktop sounds kinda important...09:31
odie5533is lynx any good?09:31
Guerinit's a decent console browser09:31
snaderyeah, it's decent09:31
vinuxowlmanatt, lol hmmm yes it sounds really important09:31
snaderw3m e.g. handles frames better09:31
Guerinodie5533: try w3m and links and links2 also09:32
zalimhello, good day everyone09:32
Guerinyeah, w3m and links2 both do images, also09:32
owlmanattvinux: Can I remove openoffice without removing that?09:32
Guerinbadly, but they do them09:32
odie5533What is the oldest browser?09:32
snader:)09:32
snaderhm, lynx i think09:32
snadernot sure though09:32
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JHBuddyvinux ... it's your call if you wanna do all the extra downloads ... but I think your last idea might save you time and effort09:32
vinuxowlmanatt, are you doing apt-get remove openoffice?09:32
zalimwhom should i ask for help on setup file sharing with selected users09:33
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owlmanattvinux: I'm removing the openoffice packages from synaptic09:33
owlmanattThe ones that are actually OO also want to remove ubuntu-desktop09:33
vinuxowlmanatt, ooo don't do that then. I would try to find another way of doing it09:33
odie5533Guerin: What is the oldest linux browser?09:34
owlmanattvinux: ...hence me asking in #ubuntu...09:34
Guerinodie5533: telnet09:34
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odie5533ooooh09:34
JHBuddytill later all ... have a gr8 time ... and thanx for all the useful inputs09:34
odie5533after that?09:34
Guerinodie5533: no idea.09:34
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vinuxowlmanatt, hmmm let me see09:35
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owlmanattvinux: Ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, and it's safe to remove.09:36
owlmanattProblem solved.09:36
albackeranyone knows where to download acroread 7 ? so there wont be an error with the package? any backports . . .?09:36
vinuxowlmanatt, oh ok thanks for the info09:37
Guerinalbacker: adobe.com09:37
Guerinalbacker: (just an idea)09:37
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ThE__OnEcan someone help me? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=220353&postcount=11209:38
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stjepanhi09:40
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r0bwhats the diffrence between the diffrent ubuntu releases?09:41
stjepando you know any good terminals?09:41
albackergnome-terminal, xterm, aterm, Eterm, rxvt09:42
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Myrttir0b: date and freshness09:42
albackergnome-terminal is good because you can use tabs with it.09:42
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r0bthe freshest being the hedgehog?09:43
Myrttir0b: of stable releases, yes09:43
r0bthanks, been meaning to try ubuntu for a while hope its everything everyone has been saying it is :)09:44
bob2ThE__OnE: those packages aren't for ubuntu09:45
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bob2ThE__OnE: I don't know why people on the forums keep claiming they are09:45
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ThE__OnEwell they are on the official ubuntu forum right?09:46
ThE__OnEcant you like stop posts like that09:46
bob2it's not an official forum09:47
bob2it's just run by some dude09:47
ThE__OnEits not?09:47
ThE__OnEoh09:47
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ThE__OnEso is it possible to undo what i jsut did?09:47
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emuzestoI know whats going to be the standard startupsound for breezy. Badger-Badger-Badger-Badger..etc.09:48
ThE__OnEand the beta version of Enlightment is not available though ubuntu?09:48
bob2ThE__OnE: remove thath line from your sources.list09:48
ThE__OnEok09:48
bob2e17 isn't even beta09:48
bl4cktoneMushroom mushroom!09:48
ThE__OnEits not?09:48
ralphI've just used hwdb-gui to submit a profile.  md5sum is 9582879ff7f8570a87554c8c23f8e295.  How do I get to see the full detail since I wrote some decent comments  :-)  http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/?xml=9582879ff7f8570a87554c8c23f8e295 gives just enough info to know it's mine.09:49
ThE__OnEbob2, where are the themes located at? because hen i go to install theme it dont work09:50
ThE__OnEit asks me for location09:50
bob2ThE__OnE: I have no idea09:50
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ThE__OnEhrm ok09:50
ralphAnyone here know about hwdb?09:53
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bob2ogra is the person to ask09:54
ralphHe's on this channel.  Is it courteous to `offer chat' to ask or should I find the appropriate mailing list?09:55
bob2ogra: oi09:55
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catfoxhi all. i've installed python from sources into /usr/local, and /usr/local/bin has a python executable which is being used as the default python when i execute "python" from a shell09:57
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catfoxhow can i make /usr/bin/python be the default ahead of /usr/local/bin/python ?09:57
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ralphcatfox: your PATH prefers /usr/local/bin to /usr/bin by design.  Try `echo $PATH'.  Why put python into /usr/local if you don't want to use it?  You could always `chmod -x /usr/local/bin/python'.09:59
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radixhave there been any horrible problems with amd64 kernels recently? currently my machine is hanging at "Starting Ubuntu..."10:00
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catfoxralph, i've got zope and some products which require 2.3, but couldn't get it to work with ubuntu packages10:01
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Sabinhow easy is it to get KDE running on ubuntu?10:02
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ralphcatfox: python scripts like /usr/bin/hwdb-send have a #! line that specifies /usr/bin/python so they're OK.  As for you typing `python' at the command line you have to type `/usr/bin/python' to specify a non-PATH one.10:02
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bob2Sabin: very, install the kubuntu-desktop package10:03
catfoxbob2, the version of psycopg that i need depends on 2.310:03
bob2ouch10:03
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catfoxyep10:03
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SabinIs it just in one of the repositories?10:04
bob2Sabin: it's in main, yes10:04
Sabinthank you10:04
radixand recovery kernel is hanging at "EXT3-fs: sda1: orphan cleanup on readonly fs" :(10:04
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SabinIt may be my project tonight to get up a running linux box10:04
cazabammorning all10:04
Sabinmorning10:05
bob2radix: that sounds way more like a screwed disk than any sort of amd64 problem10:05
thieflarto install gcc do i really have to compile it from source after i get it in tarball format from the ftp server? is there an easier way?10:05
radixanyone ever used an ubuntu CD to boot recovery mode on a SATA drive? (/dev/sda1 is my root)10:05
radixbob2: disk or filesystem?10:05
cazabamI'm having a spot of bother with my Thinkpad (T21)10:05
bob2radix: well, filesystem, bud I'd guess it's from a bad disk10:05
cazabamIt has decided that it doesn't want to switch itself off when I shut down!10:05
bob2thieflar: of course not, install the build-essential package10:05
cazabamanyone else had similar issues?10:06
radixthat would be disappointing, since this is a brand new machine :(10:06
thieflarbob2: from where?10:06
bob2thieflar: from the ubuntu repositories...10:06
radixoh well10:06
Sabinis there a website that would instruct me on how to install the nvidia drivers on ubuntu? or are they already installed?10:06
vinuxHmmm I was looking on the web and I saw debian CDs like 14 of them in a set. And i'm thinking to  myself have these guys heard of DVDs??? It costs like 70 bucks for a dual layer DVD drive 16x. I think it holds up to 8gig but not sure.10:06
concept10Does anyone use Enigmail with Mozilla Thunderbird?10:06
bob2radix: well, you could try reinstalling and see if it happens again10:07
cazabamsabin: they're in the repositories and should already be installed10:07
bob2vinux: er...there are dvd images, too.10:07
Sabinthank you10:07
thieflarbob2: wow, thanks10:07
bob2Sabin: wiki.ubungu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:07
bob2thieflar: just enable the ubuntu mirrors in synaptic10:07
SabinI just remember the awful process of getting them to work about 2 years ago10:07
vinuxbob2, oh ok I didn't see them on the web site10:07
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bob2cazabam: the ac module probably isn't loaded.  or it requires apm.  how old is it?10:08
cazabambob2: relatively new - it has worked with ACPI up until 2 days ago...10:08
cazabambob2: what's the ac module?10:08
catfoxhmm. on hoary with the marillat repo added, if i try to add gstreamer0.8-lame, i get dependancy errors about libc. how can i get that package?10:08
bob2cazabam: what did you change since the last time it worked?10:08
bob2catfox: hoary isn't compatible with marillat's unstable repository10:09
cazabamadded speedstep-smi to enable cpu-scaling10:09
concept10Anyone use encrypted email?10:09
cazabambob2: but that's about it10:09
bob2and problebly not with the testing one, either10:09
catfoxbob2, ahh i see. thanks10:09
bob2concept10: sure, with mutt10:09
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bob2cazabam: did that involve you rebuilding your kernel?10:09
concept10bob2, what does mutt use? gpg10:09
concept10?10:09
bob2concept10: everything uses gpg10:09
cazabambob2: nope - just 'modprobe speedstep-smi'10:09
bob2cazabam: does "lsmod | grep ac" print anything?10:10
cazabambob2: don't have the machine with me atm - I'll will check for that later10:10
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cazabambob2: what does ac do?10:10
concept10bob2, if I send a encrypted email the recipient has to have my key, correct?10:10
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Jesse1i have more problems when i put a music cd in the drive cd player pops up then when i push play it flashes to the pause symbol then back to the play one10:10
bob2concept10: your public key, yes, but any useful mua will download it off the keyserves automatically10:11
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bob2cazabam: enable acpi ac adapter support10:11
bob2concept10: (enigmail uses gpg, too)10:11
crazyhorse_bob2, erm, when he sends encrypted email, he has to have the repicient's public key10:11
cazabambob2: aaaah that could be it... cheers!10:11
bob2crazyhorse_: sure10:11
concept10bob2, could you help me set that up please10:12
bob2crazyhorse_: oh, you'r right, I meant signed + encrypted, plain encryption doesn't require the other person to have the key10:12
crazyhorse_if the repicient has his key does only matter if he want's to sign10:12
bob2concept10: I don't use thunderbird, sorry10:12
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Sabinbob2: thank you that website looks like it will answer any questions I have10:13
concept10bob2, how do I create a key?10:15
Jesse1concept10, with metal10:15
bob2concept10: gpg --gen-key10:15
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Jesse1lol10:15
concept10bob2, thanks10:16
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bob2concept10: http://webber.dewinter.com/gnupg_howto/english/GPGMiniHowto.html10:16
concept10thanks again10:17
unrealhrm10:17
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finlaylabsanyone know why I get kernel panic and boot failure after installing U~ on one laptop, and transferring the drive to another?10:17
Sabindoes anyone here have any experience running cedega under ubuntu?10:17
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ThE__OnEhow do i save a file opened with terminal?10:18
unrealwould the ubuntu install disc install grub to the MBR on the first disk?10:18
bob2ThE__OnE: how did you open it?10:18
bob2unreal: by default, yes10:18
bob2finlaylabs: because the boot device number changed10:18
bob2Sabin: #cedega would probably know more10:18
ThE__OnEnano10:18
unrealbob2: is there any way of making it write to the MBR on the second disk?10:19
TiMiDobob2, is it true that the ubuntu cds are free shipping and free to give out?10:19
ThE__OnEits the source.list10:19
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ChoubakaTiMiDo: yes.10:19
bob2TiMiDo: of course!10:19
finlaylabsbob2: is there a fix? I can edit boot params.10:19
ThE__OnEi want to take the link off10:19
unrealtimido: seems so, heh10:19
TiMiDohow long does it take to ship??10:19
ChoubakaTiMiDo: I got mine just recently10:19
bob2ThE__OnE: doesn't it explain how to save at the bottom?10:19
ThE__OnEnope10:19
unrealtimido: says on there about 4-7weeks I think10:19
Thomas2this might belong to -kubuntu, but that channel seems to be dead... what is the correct way to setup a printer using kubuntu with no gnome installed?10:19
bob2it's ctrl-w, iirx10:19
TiMiDooh Nice10:19
ThE__OnEi thought it was ctrl o10:19
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bob2ThE__OnE: I haven't used nano in years10:19
unrealheh10:20
bob2finlaylabs: yeah, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to point at the right root device10:20
ChoubakaThe Ubuntu CDs look cool.10:20
TiMiDonano da best10:20
Choubakaand the cover too.10:20
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ThE__OnEhow else should i edit it bob210:20
TiMiDognu-kbsd look alsome10:20
bob2ThE__OnE: just use nano10:20
TiMiDonano ee,10:20
bob2unreal: you may have to run it yourself from vt2 during the install10:20
ThE__OnEoops10:20
ThE__OnEi used emac10:21
unrealvt2?10:21
bob2unreal: that will make ubuntu unbootable, tho10:21
bob2unreal: alt-f2 during the install10:21
unrealah10:21
unrealwell I was contemplating installing ubuntu on my dads box, and he wouldn't be too pleased if I borked his windows installation :P10:22
finlaylabsbob2: currently I have root=/dev/hda1, which is right as far as I know. I only have 1 hhd installed.10:22
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Jesse1i have more problems when i put a music cd in the drive cd player pops up then when i push play it flashes to the pause symbol then back to the play one10:22
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ThE__OnEbob2, rememebr the link i showed you, how can i remove the files i installed? since they are of no use and might cause error or breakdow of Ubuntu when i reboot10:22
bob2unreal: it won't break it, it will just put the grub menu before windows boots10:22
bob2ThE__OnE: what files?  the E packages?10:22
ThE__OnEyes10:22
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bob2finlaylabs: I don't know then.  I'm pretty sure booting a cd and rerunning grub-install on the disk would fix it, though.10:23
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bob2ThE__OnE: entrance is the only one that might cause a problem10:23
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ThE__OnEso how can i remove it?10:24
AnAmiChi all, I'm kind of new to the whole linux thing, and am now making my first steps ^^  and now that my ubuntu is up and running, I'm stuck at the point where I want to install own software like the opera webbrowser or some codecs for mpeg and mp3 :P10:24
bob2ThE__OnE: in synaptic10:24
ThE__OnEjsut uncheck it?10:25
bob2AnAmiC: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:25
bob2ThE__OnE: I guess so10:25
AnAmiCbob2: thx :)10:25
Jesse1AnAmiC, ubuntuguide.org/ read there10:25
AnAmiCalright ^10:25
AnAmiC^^10:25
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thieflarhow can i install the kernel header files?10:26
bob2be very wary of the ubuntuguide10:26
ThE__OnEyes10:26
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bob2thieflar: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)10:26
ThE__OnEits called the UNOFFICIAL guide for a reason10:26
rbrenartIn order to have tpb working I need to run two commands at every reboot 1) 'sudo mknod /dev/nvram c 10 144' 2) 'sudo tpb &' I'm not sure if automating #1 would make #2 irrelevant as #2 currently fails if ran before #1, but either way, could someone help me figure out how to automate this so tpb just works after reboot?10:26
AnAmiCok, I will look through both of your urls :)10:26
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thieflarbob2: whoa! thanks man10:27
ThE__OnEbob2, nothing of enlightement is installed10:27
bob2cool10:28
ThE__OnEit is not showing a chec besides it10:28
ThE__OnEcheck*10:28
ThE__OnEi have firefox 1.0.2, should i upgrade it bob2?10:30
ThE__OnEsome people ehre said not to10:30
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ThE__OnEbut since your an op10:31
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bob2I haven't10:31
bob2yo ajmitch10:31
rbrenartlet me try the short version of the question.... right now I run 'sudo mknod /dev/nvram c 10 144' on every reboot, how would I go about automating this so I no longer need to?10:31
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bob2you shouldn't have to10:32
bob2unless you're using a custom kernel10:32
bob2udev should make it for you10:32
rbrenartnot a custom kernel, udev doesn't make it10:32
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ekCohey10:33
ekCoi cant install teamspeak or get any voice program working..10:33
rbrenartshould I be modifying udev.conf or udev.rules maybe?10:33
lpkUbuntu seems to be great!10:34
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unrealhmm10:34
lpki shut down my computer yesterday, well now when i booted it and got into my desktop, several apps started crying segmentation fault10:35
lpkI booted and it complained that it cant launch xorg10:35
unrealis there an ftpd grabbable by apt-get?10:35
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crazyhorse_unreal,  apt-cache search ftpd10:35
SabinI'm just about to load hoary to my second hd but will grub auto rewrite my mbr?10:35
bob2lpk: you're using hoary, right?10:35
unrealcrazyhorse_: ty :)10:36
bob2Sabin: by default, yes; otherwise it would be unbootable10:36
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rbrenartnevermind, found a quick note about it here http://resolute.ucsd.edu/diwaker/articles/howtos/howto-t42-ubuntu.html thanks tho10:36
rbrenartgave me what I needed to google it10:36
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lpkbob2: Yea10:36
SabinI want to dual boot with xp but didn't find any howtos for that on the wiki10:36
lpk:S10:36
bob2Sabin: you don't need to do anything, ubuntu will add that to the grub menu10:36
ekCohey, i can hear sound, hear my voice in mic.. but i cant record, or get teamspeak working, anyone have the same prob or know a way to solve it?10:37
lpkIt's just super weird when a linux install breaks w/o doing anything10:37
Sabinok thank you10:37
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Sabinbob2: thank you for helping out this newb10:37
bob2np10:37
rbrenartDoes Ubuntu have the ability to resize NTFS partitions?10:38
bob2yes10:38
rbrenartclever, mine was already partitioned so I didn't have to bother, but that's good to know10:38
crazyhorse_ekCo, open your mixer and make sure that you chose the right "capture" device.10:38
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ekCois there anyway of transporting all of my stuff and ubuntu os to a new hdd making it my primary hdd and old hdd secondary?10:39
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rbrenartgoodnight all10:39
karlhegekCo, Yes.  Install second drive as secondary drive.10:39
karlhegekCo, use 'cfdisk' to partition it, then 'mkfs' to make file systems there.10:40
ekCook10:40
karlhegekCo, mount the new / on /mnt, mkdir in there for other mount points, mount them all up.10:40
karlhegCopy the old drive to the new.10:40
ekCook cool, thanks :D10:40
ekCowill look deeper into it :P10:41
topyliekCo: except /proc, /tmp and such :)10:41
karlhegOld, file system to the new, I should say.  You may need to have it skip some files / directories; like /proc.10:41
karlheg'tar' is faster than 'cp'.10:41
ekComk10:41
ekCoi'll look into it :D10:41
karlheghttp://www.laclinux.com/~karlheg/system-cloning-scripts/make-system-tar10:42
ThE__OnEhow do i change the color of the windows?10:42
karlhegAdjust the list in there to suit; pipe the output to a tar, like:10:42
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karlhegcd / && make-system-tar | (cd /mnt && tar xf -)10:43
karlhegMake sure it does not try to recurse into /mnt itself.10:43
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ekCocrazyhorse_, it still doesnt work10:44
ekCoall programs say capture device not found but it is set10:44
karlhegWell, it might not.  You have to check the excludes expressions list and make certain it's right for your task.10:44
topylibob2: it seems to10:44
karlhegThere are some things excluded there that should not be for your purpose.10:45
ThE__OnEhow do i change the color of the windows? And is there a virus scanner?10:45
ekCobbl10:45
karlheg... and the sort statement is not necessary.  Take it out and speed up the script.10:45
bob2ThE__OnE: you don't need a virus scanner, just don't run stuff from people you don't trust10:46
vinuxGood nite all! See you tomorrow :)10:46
karlhegThE__OnE, Use the gnome panel menu "System" --> "Preferences", and just try them all.  You'll find it.10:46
topyliThE__OnE: what windows? what is a virus? :)10:46
karlhegWhat was DOS?10:46
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ThE__OnEi downloaded something from a p2p, how can i scan that?10:47
ThE__OnEor do i need to scan that?10:48
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topylikarlheg: dos used to power my MS Works 1.0 workstation :)10:48
shanonThE__OnE: Did you download an executable binary or script ?10:48
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ThE__OnEno10:48
ThE__OnElike tar10:48
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shanonThE__OnE: The tar should be fine. What is in it ?10:49
ThE__OnEguides10:49
ThE__OnEto linux10:49
shanonThE__OnE: That should be fine10:49
topyliliar :)10:49
karlhegThE__OnE, You should not run binaries you have not compiled yourself and for which you have not read or might not trust the source code, UNLESS you get it from Ubuntu.10:49
shanonThE__OnE: In general you do not have to worry to much about scanning things on linux. Unless you download an executable binary from somewhere strange10:50
karlhegThE__OnE, any program or script you run only has the system permissions you have, unless it is marked setuid root.10:50
ThE__OnEnorm_, it is guides to linux, what else can i downlaod from p2p for linux topyli?10:50
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ThE__OnEiam not root10:51
ThE__OnEatleast i never set myself as one because people in here not to do so10:51
topyliThE__OnE: oh, the other stuff is not linux-specific10:51
karlhegThE__OnE, if it's a PDF or HTML document, you can safely view it.  It's executable programs you should not trust unless you are certain of the source.10:51
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karlhegThe 'file' command can help you identify what kind of file it is.  Most often the file manager knows too, and will display an icon indicating the file type.10:52
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ThE__OnEthx10:52
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karlhegThE__OnE, That's the right way to do it.  Never run as root unless you are doing admin work, and never leave a root console open when you are not using it.10:53
ekCohey10:53
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ekCoi keep getting this error in teamspeak, Qt: Locales not supported on X server10:53
ekCothen nothing shows up.10:53
ThE__OnEhehe10:53
ThE__OnEthx10:53
r2d4Hi! Just installed Ubuntu to my hard disk. The sound is not working. Funny thing is it worked from the Live CD. I mucked around a bit haplessly. I don't know much of how the sound internals work. I did read the unofficial FAQ and did what it said. Didn't help. The sound is playing (can see the oscillations in media players) but won't sound out. Volume is fine. Sound works from Windows partition.10:53
topyliThE__OnE: the one situation when you want to run a virus scanner is if you run a mail server for windows clients10:53
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ThE__OnEonope10:54
Choubakar2d4: check the mixer settings.10:54
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ThE__OnEnothing like that10:54
Choubakar2d4: it may be muted10:54
topyliThE__OnE: even, then i'd count the clients and think if it's easier to let the clients worry about viruses :)10:54
karlhegr2d4, try 'sudo alsamixer' in a terminal and jiggle all the knobs.10:54
r2d4Choubaka: Not muted. Checked that.10:54
rbrenartI wanted to add some mount points (or just any directory really)  to my places menu (not /media/ mounts)  is there an easy way to do this?10:54
ekCoi keep getting this error in teamspeak, Qt: Locales not supported on X server, nothing shows up...10:54
karlhegAlso try the "System | Preferences | Multimedia ..." and "Sound" settings.10:55
Choubakakarlheg: alsamixer runs as a normal user too.10:55
karlhegahuman01, yes, ok.  No need for sudo.10:55
karlheg... as long as you are in the 'audio' group.10:55
r2d4OK! Thanks. Should have asked this from Linux. Let me login from it. Thanks.10:55
cantrel29hello, can somebody help me with a monitor problem.  my computer was attached to a crt, now it's attached to a flat pannel.  the refresh rate of my crt is not supported.  how do I start x config from the command line?10:56
ThE__OnEdoes ubuntu in anyway take away any of the bandwidth?10:56
HrdwrBoBno10:56
ThE__OnEok10:56
ThE__OnEit mught be my system thats running slow then10:56
karlhegaptitude install gkrellm10:56
ThE__OnEmust*10:56
bob2cantrel29: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:57
ekCocan anyone help?10:58
ThE__OnEnot until you ask10:58
ThE__OnEhehe10:58
karlhegekCo, I think that a locales package is missing.10:58
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ekCowhich?10:58
karlhegekCo, Run 'synaptic' and find the program with the problem.  Look at it's depends and recommends, etc, and see if you can find a recommended or suggested package within the transitive closure of the union of depends, recommends, and suggests for the package that installs locales.10:59
cantrel29thanks bob2. i am running through to config now10:59
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karlhegekCo, I'm not certain if my answer is correct.  I never use Qt applications, and have not seen that before.11:01
ekCohmm ok11:01
poningruI had a question about .deb files11:01
karlhegLocales probably means language translation files...  but it could be something else.  You should ask on #kubuntu.11:02
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poningruwhy not make them 'install' when double clicked11:02
poningruwith prompts in between ofcourse11:02
karlheg... since it's a Qt application; Qt is the user interface widget toolkit used by KDE programs.11:02
ekCook.. wheres the depends and recommends tab?11:02
ekCohmm ok11:02
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karlhegponingru, because a .deb may have dependencies that would not easily be handled that way by a file manager.11:03
tiglionabbitekCo: right-click, hit properties11:03
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poningruleeds into my other question why arent they packaged with the required libraries?11:04
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poningruwin software pulls this off11:04
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poningrupretty nicely if I may add11:04
karlhegekCo, I do not see 'teamspeak' in the synaptic package manager at all.  What is it?11:04
r2d4Hi! I am back. Did sudo alsamixer. Some very at 0. Put all to 100%. Still no sound.11:04
HiddenWolfkarlheg, it's software to allow you to communicate with your clan during gaming11:05
ekCo:\11:05
karlhegponingru, http://web.pdx.edu/~hegbloom/Aptitude/tutorial-intro-aptitude.html11:05
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karlhegAh. Perhaps it's missing a kdelibs locale package?11:05
karlhegTry searching for 'locale' and see if something jumps out at you wrt 'kde' or 'qt'.11:06
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karlhegponingru, That's why.  :-)11:06
ekCoyeah heaps of others re having the prob11:06
poningruok so you have too many libs sometimes11:07
rbrenartAnyone know how to modify the "Places" menu? Smeg doesn't seem to allow me to change it.11:07
karlhegr2d4, Ok.  We determined that you don't need 'sudo' for that... as long as you are in the 'audio' group.  What does 'id | grep audio' print?  Anything, or nothing?11:08
tiglionabbitrbrenart: in any "open" dialog, you can pin things to it11:08
HiddenWolfkarlheg, teamspeak is not in the archive. it's semi-commercial11:08
karlhegWhat are your sound and multimedia settings from the panel menu System --> Preferences ?11:08
r2d4id | grep audio       prints nothing11:08
rbrenarttiglionabbit: I'm sorry, I don't follow11:09
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karlhegThat's what is the matter.  'sudo adduser r2d4 audio', or use the "Users and Groups" tool from the System --> Administration menu.11:09
ThE__OnEhow can i change the color of the windows?11:09
ThE__OnEi checked out windows and theme in preferences11:09
ThE__OnEbut they dunt help me11:09
poningrukarlheg: can you explain what dependencies cannot be handled by apt or something similar?11:09
ekCokarlheg, does nvclock work for you with latest ubuntu-nvidia drivers?11:10
karlhegWhen you create a new desktop user, make sure to use the "Desktop" profile so they have access to audio, CD, etc.11:10
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r2d4It says I am already a member of audio.11:10
karlhegThE__OnE, What windows are you referring to?11:10
r2d4karlheg: It says I am already a member of audio11:10
karlhegponingru, apt is what handles depends.  'dpkg' alone does not.  'apt' takes a package name, not a .deb file.  'dpkg' takes a .deb file; apt runs it for you.11:11
ThE__OnEyou know the color aroung applications and places and systems, how can i change that?11:11
karlhegA double click on a .deb would mean to run 'dpkg'.11:11
topyliThE__OnE: do you mean the backround, which is normally white?11:11
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ekCokarlheg, ?11:11
r2d4karlheg: I think I know why11:11
r2d4karlheg: I typed the id command in the root console.11:12
karlhegekCo, I don't have nvidia.11:12
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karlhegr2d4, That's why.11:12
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ThE__OnEyes11:12
karlhegOk, what are your 'sound' settings?11:12
r2d4karlheg: The output from my user terminal is ..11:12
ekCoah ok then11:12
karlheg... from the System --> Preferences menu?11:12
ThE__OnEi let my cousins sue it and they somehow managed to change it to pink or lite brown, <<--color blind11:12
r2d4karlheg: uid=1000(rt) gid=1000(rt) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),107(lpadmin),108(scanner),109(admin),1000(rt)11:12
poningrukarlheg: thats what I am saying in a gui frontend such as gnome why not make .deb files be associated with something like apt and allow that to handle the install11:12
r2d4rt@main:~$11:12
ekCoanyone running 7174 nvidia drivers and having segmentation faults with nvclock?!11:13
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topyliThE__OnE: find a theme that uses different colors11:13
ThE__OnEuse*11:13
karlhegr2d4, Looks fine.11:13
karlhegWhat program won't play?  Is it configured to use the 'ESD' output, and is the audio daemon running?11:13
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r2d4karlheg: No program plays. I am currently running XMMS11:14
teroednihow to get apt-get to list packages?11:14
karlhegThe configuration menus have settings for the audio daemon, and there's a multimedia settings for libgstreamer based applications.  XMMS has it's own configuration.11:14
teroednicant find anything in apt-get -h11:14
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karlhegapt-cache search REGEXP11:14
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karlhegr2d4, Click the 'o' on XMMS, and select "Preferences".  Select the correct "Output Plugin" from there.11:15
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karlhegIf it's set to ALSA and the sound daemon is running, it might not work, and if it's set to ESD and the sound daemon is NOT running it might not work.11:16
teroedniwow thanks karlheg11:16
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karlheg"esound output" for the sound daemon you find in the prefrences "sound".11:16
r2d4karlheg: it is on alsa. let me check if I can find this audio daemon.11:16
karlhegDoes it work now?11:16
karlhegOk.11:17
zokai have winxp on hda1, ntfs partition on hda2, root ext3 on hda5 and swap on hda6, and lilo in the mbr, when i boot linux it all works fine but when i boot windows lilo hides hda2 and i cant access the other ntfs partition11:17
zoka<zoran> how do i make windows see the other ntfs11:17
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MorphDKHey.. I've got some problems with ALSA.. Please help :(11:18
karlhegHmmm... well, mine only works when I set XMMS to 'alsa', whether or not the sound daemon is running.11:18
poningruzoka lilo does not hide the hda211:18
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poningruit is probably xp not recognizing something11:18
poningruwhat kind of partition is xp on?11:18
poningruntfs or fat32?11:19
karlhegWhat if you right-click on the little speaker in the top panel, and select 'Open Volume Control' ?11:19
zokaxp is on hda1 ntfs11:19
poningruhmm11:19
karlhegponingru, NTFS.11:19
zokalilo did hide hda211:19
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MorphDKkarlheg, i tried that.. nothing is muted11:19
zokai have no idea why11:19
poningruwell lilo wont show a partition if it doesnt have an os in it11:19
poningruat boot up11:19
poningruiirc11:19
poningrugotta go sleep its too late11:20
karlhegWhat is shown by the command:  lsmod | grep '^snd'11:20
zokawhy does it hide hda2 when i boot hda111:20
karlhegIs there a driver for your sound card listed?  You can see what sound card it is with 'lspci'.11:20
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MorphDKkarlheg, yes11:21
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topylizoka: believe it. lilo only shows bootable partitions. it doesn't hide anything from the operating systems11:21
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MorphDKkarlheg, it's an intel soundcard, and the snd_intel8x0 driver is loaded..11:21
karlhegIt is listed, but still no sound.  Hmmm.  I once had a similar problem.  I did everything you're supposed to and it still would not work.  I used alsamixer, and twiddled all the knobs, and something went 'pop', then it started working.11:22
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MorphDKkarlheg, i'm trying to use ALSA only, but there are a lot of 'oss' modules loaded.. is that the way it's supposed to be?11:23
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MorphDKsnd_seq_oss, snd_pcm_oss etc..11:23
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karlhegIs the speaker volume turned up?  Are the speakers plugged into the right jack?  Are the speakers powered on?11:23
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NobodyrealDoes anyone have experience getting the gmailfs package to work?11:24
zokatopyli: it did hide mine11:24
MorphDKit's a laptop.. and volume is at 100% and unmuted11:24
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karlhegWell, I'm stumped.11:25
MorphDKme too :D11:25
GNULinuxerMorphDK> can you tell me what your problem is?11:25
MorphDKGNULinuxer, no sound at all, but everything seems working11:25
ThE__OnEif i create a file called test.dooc can that be opened with windows word?11:25
GNULinuxerMorphDK> which kernel?11:25
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Black-whIsphey. :)11:25
ThE__OnEtest.doc11:26
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MorphDKGNULinuxer, ehm.. The latest Ubuntu kernel?11:26
Black-whIspis it possible to install ubuntu from the live cd?11:26
topylizoka: if xp doesn't see an ntfs partition it has nothing to do with your boot loader11:26
MorphDK2.6.10-511:26
GNULinuxerMorphDK> hmm11:26
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MorphDKGNULinuxer, no errors at all, and mplayer finds the card and start playing.. but no sound :(11:27
ThE__OnEKernel: Linux 2.6.10-5-38611:27
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topyliThE__OnE: yes11:27
GNULinuxerMorphDK> MorphDK ahh ...11:27
ogahey i was wondering if anybody could help me get my ati driver etc installed properly... i've tried just about everything and all i can do now is break my xwindow display.... i've used the forums and wiki and i'm stumped11:27
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GNULinuxerMorphDK> start alsamixer and mute the headphone jack sense and the line in jack sense11:28
GNULinuxerMorphDK> then try11:28
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MorphDKGNULinuxer, still nothing :(11:29
dajarhey all11:29
dajarfirst time ubuntu user here! :)11:29
dajarand loving it11:29
GNULinuxerMorphDK> are you sure nothing is muted?11:29
MorphDKYes, I am sure..11:30
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MorphDKThe only muted are the input devices..11:30
wouterlhow can I use t11:30
dajari just have one question... i installed apache/mysql/php with the synaptic application.. eveyrthing works apart from when i try and install phpmyadmin it says cannot load mysql extension;11:30
wouterlhow can I use update on my old warty?11:31
GNULinuxerMorphDK> are you using the esd audio driver driver for mplayer?11:31
MorphDKNope, ao=alsa in mplayer.conf11:31
MorphDKotherwise it won't even start :D11:31
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GNULinuxerModer> change it to esd11:32
Zeininhey11:32
Zeininanyone familiar with persistant crash-to-login bugs?11:32
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topyliwouterl: update?11:32
VassilisHi11:32
VassilisHi?11:32
MorphDKGNULinuxer, I had some problems with slow sound in ESD, so I got an advice in here to change everything to ALSA... .(11:33
dajarhey here11:33
Zeininsup11:33
GNULinuxerMorphDK> hmm11:33
MorphDKGNULinuxer, so everything is configured for ALSA now11:33
VassilisSo let me get into my point. Is there a way to see my ntfs disc using Ubuntu Live cd?11:33
wouterltopyli: well firefox for example (Synaptic package manager apply button doesn't work and I can't mark things as update ...)11:33
topyliVassilis: sure, you just have to mount it11:34
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dajari thought ntfs was unstable11:34
dajarwith linux comp11:34
keikozit is for writing11:34
Zeininthis is really annoying, every 10-20 seconds, ubuntu will reboot to the login screen, and i cannot ctrl-alt-bksp to get out of xwin, it just clicks out and pops back in11:35
topylidajar: mount it read-only11:35
keikozon read no pbls11:35
dajarah11:35
ekCohmmph11:35
Vassilis@ topyli ....and that happens as... ?11:35
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dajarsorry11:35
ekCoteamspeak still doesnt work!11:35
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Zeininso right now, i am using windows because ubuntu is really broken, anyone ever fix this?11:35
johnnybezakZeinin: fix what11:35
Zeinin..11:36
Zeininconstant and persistant crashes every 15 seconds11:36
topyliVassilis: something like "sudo mount -t ntfs -o ro,umask=0 /dev/hdXX /mnt"11:36
stianmorphDK> tru muteing everyting but master pcm and external amp, then turn master and pcm ALL the way up an then down again. that worcked for me.11:36
dajarreally?11:36
Zeininit dumps me back to the login11:36
dajari only get fatal errors when i boot up11:36
dajarbut it still works11:36
ekCothis is really annoying, every 10-20 seconds, ubuntu will reboot to the login screen, and i cannot ctrl-alt-bksp to get out of xwin, it just clicks out and pops back in11:36
Zeininthe first time after install11:36
MorphDKstian, i guess it's worth a try11:36
ekCozeinin..11:36
Zeininthanks ekco11:36
keikozZeinin the server X then probably11:36
ekCowhat are you trying to do?11:36
Vassilisis the definition of the absolute linux newbie....11:36
Zeinini am trying to use my computer11:36
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ekCoyes ofcourse.. but in what way is it rebooting?11:37
r2d4Hi! Any sound gurus here? Still having problems.11:37
Zeininthe x-server seems to crash and restart11:37
Zeinini end up back at the ubuntu login screen11:37
ekCowhats does11:37
ekCo'dmesg' say *11:37
Zeininwhat?11:37
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Zeininhmm?11:38
Zeinini dont have the actual time to check anything11:38
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teroednihmm is w32 codecs removed from the reps ?11:38
Zeininlike, i cannot even get to a terminal11:38
ekCocontrol + alt + F111:38
MorphDKstian, didn't work11:38
ekCologin as root11:38
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Zeinink11:38
stianmorphDK> I think it has someting to do whit alsa seeing the volum control as 0 or 0 before you turn i all the way up once11:38
ogais there anybody in here that can help me get my fglrx drivers to work.... i'm totallly stumped,11:38
ekCotype root, and pw, then type dmesg11:38
Zeininthen what?11:38
MorphDKstian, but now i've turned it all the way up, then down, then up and finally down again..11:39
stianmorphDK> 1 or 0 that is11:39
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Zeinin"scrollkeeper" seems to be bitching alot when i can get a terminal screen11:39
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beavisneed help ... with the network11:40
beavispls11:40
beavisanybody willing ?11:40
NobodyrealHas anyone managed to get gmailfs working on Hoary?11:40
cantrel29bob2: what was to command to kick off xorg config again?11:40
ekCoZeinin, dmesg should give you an output on what happened..11:40
teroednigmailfs?11:40
Zeininright11:41
Zeininoh, another question11:41
MorphDKwell.. going for a reboot.. brb11:41
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beavisguys/gals, .. i tried using the network browser but i noticed when i tried to open a file, ..11:41
beavisit has an error11:41
Zeininin the five minutes i had in ubuntu before this bullshit started, i tried to run synaptic and it failed11:41
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NobodyrealTereoedni: It's for mounting a gmail account to your filesystem.11:41
Zeininsomething about not having exclusive control over something11:41
teroedni:)11:42
dajarok guys11:42
dajarwhat would be the php4-mysql package for unbuntu11:42
teroedninever tried that ....Yet11:42
ekCoZeinin, you must use root to do this11:42
bob2cantrel29: sueo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:42
bob2well, sudo11:42
bob2dajar: php4-mysql11:42
beavisi had an SMB error when i tried to open a doc file on the network browser .. anybody help ?11:42
dajarits not working11:42
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dajarE: Couldn't find package php4-mysql11:42
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dajarwhen i apt get11:42
CDKhello11:43
bob2dajar: yes, it's in the universe repository11:43
dajarsorry how would i get to that11:43
dajarfirst time unbuntu user here! :D11:43
cantrel29bob2: thankyou again.11:43
CDKthis is the first time i have ever used irc its pretty cool11:43
bob2do you know how to use a text editor?11:43
dajaryes11:43
topyli!universe11:44
ubotutopyli: I don't know11:44
topylihm11:44
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cantrel29yes11:44
bob2dajar: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, read the bit about universe and uncomment the lines11:44
CDKthis might be a stupid question but how do i get this chat to be on the desktop?11:44
bob2then run 'sudo apt-get update', then try installing it again11:44
CDKlike a wallpaper11:44
bob2you can't11:45
bob2not easily, anyway11:45
ekCohow do i install wine?11:46
ekCoi added the repos etc, but still cant be found11:46
NobodyrealekCo: Which repos?11:46
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bob2ekCo: paste your /etc/ap/sour to #flood11:46
bob2er, you know what file I mean11:46
s00dHi. I'm having a little trouble installing IPTables::IPv4. I'm trying to install the module so I can use the linblock.pl script from www.dessent.net. I've manually downloaded it and done 'perl Makefile.pl' and 'make install', and all seems to have gone swimmingly. But after when trying to run linblock.pl I still get the following error message: 'Could not connect to iptables interface: iptables who? (do you need to insmod?)' Is11:47
s00d there something I've missed here?11:47
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ekCook11:47
beavisi had an SMB error when i tried to open a doc file on the network browser .. anybody help ?11:47
alonsohi all!!11:47
CDKdid you try it with the ip11:47
alonsoi need some suggestion11:48
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CDKsometimes the host names can be off at least on my network11:48
CDKip always works tho11:48
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ekCobob2 check flood11:48
beavisi can't open a doc file when i access it on a shared folder on a network server .. how come ???11:49
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alonsoi want to change refresh rate, because it just only 60 Hz, it bad for me11:49
bob2beavis: does it work if you copy it to the desktop first?11:49
bob2ekCo: and paste the error you get from 'sudo apt-get install wine' to #flood, too11:49
beavisyes .. it works11:49
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beavisbob2 : yes it works .. tried it ....11:49
mlambiecan in run ubuntu i386 on an Athlon 64 bit processor?11:49
beavisbob2 : but if i do that , .. i'll have to copy / paste it again on the server.11:50
ekComlambie, yes.11:50
mlambiebecause i've finished the install, and it says "error cannot load operating system"11:50
beavisbob2: is there anything easier like the one windows does ?11:50
mlambiewhich seems like a grub error11:50
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ekCoerr11:50
ekCowhich version?11:50
bob2beavis: sure, mount it prerly11:50
mlambiehoary11:50
microhaxobullshit, Viewing my NTFS Drives FCKED windows11:50
ekCobob2, sent11:50
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bob2microhaxo: ctop it11:50
beavisbob2: you mean i have to do it manually ?? no front-end based ?11:50
microhaxoctop it?11:51
bob2"stop"11:51
microhaxostop11:51
microhaxowhat11:51
bob2ranting11:51
microhaxoim pissed, if you had to pay 120 for a new windows11:51
bob2if you have a problem, explain what you did11:51
ekColol11:51
microhaxoit cant be fixed11:51
bob2right11:51
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bob2because if yo ucan't fix it, it must be impossible11:51
microhaxonow im stuck with  ubuntu11:51
microhaxobob211:51
ekCobob2, sent, check when helped microhaxo11:51
microhaxoim a very experienced windows user11:51
microhaxoi know when it cant be fixed11:52
bob2I'm sure you are11:52
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microhaxoi need to format11:52
bob2that I'm less convinced of11:52
mlambieekCo, i am booting off a sata disk, and it worked with the 64_x86 install earlier today11:52
microhaxobha11:52
bob2ekCo: hrm...you're not on amd64,, are you?11:52
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goliatwhats the command to nat all trafic from tun1 "tunnel interface" to eth111:52
microhaxosomehow viewing my ntfs drives FUBARD windows, its missing files, it wont boot, ETC11:52
xabbu|morning guys.11:52
microhaxobad morning11:52
mlambieproblem is, some software i need only comes packaged as rpms, and they only work with alien on 32 bit11:52
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topylimicrohaxo: reading an ntfs partition does no harm to it11:52
bob2microhaxo: "viewing"?11:53
microhaxoyes it does11:53
bob2microhaxo: what exactly did you do?11:53
topyliyou wrote to it11:53
microhaxoyou cant11:53
NobodyrealecKo: May sound like a stupid question...  you've run "apt-get update" right?11:53
microhaxowrite to ntfs11:53
bob2microhaxo: see, the reason we doubt you is because no one else has ever seen this11:53
ekCobob2, im on 64bit.11:53
microhaxoyou know11:53
lukus001How can i install w32codec on chroot11:53
xabbu|What has happend?11:53
bob2ekCo: wine doesn't work on an amd64 machine11:53
ekCoyes Nobodyreal11:53
microhaxoi have a story like this with red hat.. HERE is how it went:11:53
ekCo:|11:53
bob2ekCo: er,on the amd64 ubuntu port11:53
topylimicrohaxo: sure you can write to it, it's just dangerous11:53
ekCoit has the howto on winehq for ubuntu lol11:53
bob2microhaxo: we don't care about some other story, tell us what you did this time11:53
microhaxo:|11:54
microhaxowasted all that typing11:54
microhaxoi didnt do anything11:54
microhaxoi was in gnome11:54
microhaxoplayin mp3's11:54
ekCoi got cedega running on 64bit without a 32bit chroot :P11:54
bob2ekCo: it says you can install it on the amd64 ubuntu port?11:54
bob2microhaxo: show us your /etc/fstab, in #flood11:54
microhaxoand i wanted to play a little CounterStrike source, so i booted into windows, and it was fine11:54
microhaxok11:54
catfoxare there any packages for beagle on hoary? or is it easy to get working from beagle source?11:54
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lukus001Does anyone know how i can install the w32codec ?11:55
bob2catfox: doesn't modern beagle require mono 1.1?11:55
ekCobob2, not exactly11:55
microhaxolol11:55
Ubuntuhi11:55
bob2lukus001: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:55
microhaxoyou want the list of files in directory?11:55
NobodyrealSo...  Nobody has ideas on how I could get gmailfs working?11:55
bob2microhaxo: no, I'd like to see your /etc/fstab file11:55
lukus001bob2: when i do apt-get it says it has no install candiadte11:55
microhaxoit wont open11:55
microhaxogedit11:55
microhaxohrm11:55
bob2lukus001: you need to read that wiki page11:55
lukus001okay11:55
beavisbob2: you mean i have to do it manually ?? no front-end based ?11:55
microhaxo#flood11:56
topylicatfox: http://beaglewiki.org/index.php/UbuntuInstall . make sure to read it all first11:56
bob2beavis: basically, yes11:56
ekCobob2, i gtg.11:56
catfoxtopyli, thanks11:56
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ekCothanks for help anyways11:56
bob2ekCo: np, sorry for not being of more use11:56
bob2tata11:56
microhaxobob2 check it11:56
bob2microhaxo: so, now you have to stop whinging, forever11:57
bob2microhaxo: you're using captive ntfs11:57
bob2when it breaks, you get to keep all the pieces11:57
microhaxowhat?11:57
ekCoheh, actually11:57
microhaxoi dont do anything with my windows drives11:57
ekCoi will be back later11:57
microhaxoi just boot to them>11:57
bob219:56:42      microhaxo |  /dev/hdb1 /mnt/captive-new_volume captive-ntfs defaults,noauto 0 011:57
microhaxoi have never Written to them11:57
ekCoto fix teamspeak, maybe you might have an idea?11:57
microhaxoyea i installed that yesturday11:58
bob2microhaxo: whatever, you went out of your way to install and configure captive ntfs11:58
microhaxoit was broke YESTURDAY11:58
microhaxoi wanted to replace a dll11:58
bob2that ate your disk, that's entirely your own fault11:58
microhaxoin linux11:58
ekCobob2?11:58
bob2yes, writing to ntfs is not safe from linux11:58
microhaxoIT was FUCKING BROKEN B4 that!11:58
bob2and will corrupt your disk11:58
microhaxoomg11:58
microhaxoforget it11:58
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microhaxowindows = broken for 3 days now11:58
bob2ekCo: never used it, sorry11:58
bob2microhaxo: ok!11:58
microhaxocaptive ntfs installed = yesturday11:58
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ekCok11:59
microhaxoBob2 how do i remove captive ntfs11:59
microhaxo?11:59
microhaxojust delete the lines?11:59
bob2that would be a start11:59
microhaxoerr11:59
microhaxobob211:59
bob2you installed it from source, so I ddon't know where you put the rest of the bits11:59
xabbu|Why not just put in the winXP disc and make repair the system?11:59
microhaxocaptiventfs is on my EMPTY NTFS hd11:59
microhaxowindows is on hda111:59
bob2microhaxo: ok!11:59
bob2oga: please keep things in the channel12:00
lukus001bob2: that link isn't of any use... it doesnt help me get the codecs ?:S12:00
bob2oga: all I can suggest is reading the howto again and making sure you followed all the steps12:00
ogathanks bob212:00
bob2oga: and that the drivers support your card12:00
microhaxoGod dammit, now i need to go buy a new windowsxp cd12:01
microhaxo:|12:01
bob2why on earth would you need to do that?12:01
microhaxomine is Scratched to hell12:01
bob2if you installed windows, presumably you own a windows disk12:01
microhaxoits Scratched12:01
microhaxoi havent had to reinstall windows for EVER12:01
microhaxoit works FLAWLESSLY12:01
beavisbuy pirated .... lots here12:01
lukus001just by a cd de-scratcher12:01
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microhaxopirated doesnt give me updates12:01
beavisyes it does .. it does for us here12:02
bob2annnnnyway12:02
beavisheheheheh12:02
xabbu|awn your cd--key isn't scratched right..?12:02
Ubuntuhi i will take over my xp computer with my ubuntu pc how? i tright it with terminal server client but err12:02
beavissorrry am not so techie, .. can't help you people who need help12:02
beavisi need help too12:02
microhaxoi dont have my cd key anymore, if i can boot into windows and retreive it12:03
beavis:P12:03
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CDKhehe there is a cd key gen for xp12:03
xabbu|Ubuntu, Have you activated the Terminal server on your windows computer?12:03
lukus001So does anyone know how i can get w32codecs installed? i just get file missing install candidate12:03
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xabbu|lukus001: Is your repositories updated?12:03
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Ubuntuyes ssh i believe secure security client12:04
lukus001xabbu|: yes they are12:04
xabbu|Okey.12:04
bob2lukus001: just get the tarball from mplayer.hu12:04
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nubbeI need a better ntfs reader than the default (better error-handling), is there any such thing?12:05
Hylasis installing .deb files individually dangerous? I've heard it can screw the system over if they fail!12:05
xabbu|microhaxo: Well, thats your fault. Why on earth would you store your cd-key on your harddrive?12:05
bob2nubbe: no12:05
CDKif i install form source how do i uninstall12:05
microhaxoerr12:05
microhaxocus i never had to use it12:05
microhaxoi didnt store it12:05
microhaxoi can get a program to read it12:05
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bob2Hylas: not if they're from ubuntu, but in practice you won't need to do that12:05
CDKlike i said there is a way to change it and update it12:05
microhaxooff of windows12:05
nubbebob2, that's bad :(12:05
CDKwith a keygen12:05
nubbefor me12:05
bob2nubbe: why?12:05
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bob2anyway, all this windows stuff is off topic12:05
bob2take it to #ubuntu-offtopic12:06
CDKyes i had a simple question how do i uninstall something i installed from source12:06
lukus001bob2: that site isnt in english :s lol12:06
xabbu|ubuntu, You need the have a ssh server installed on windows if you are to use ssh.12:06
microhaxobah12:06
Hylasbecause I've got xmms and mplayer here as rpm's and I was going to convert them to deb with alien then install them. I have a slow internet connection so i try to stay away from downloading12:06
nubbebob2, I could read some files with xp, but not with ubuntu, that I need...12:06
microhaxoIf linux could actually run a damn game, CEDEGA is complete BS, wont run Counterstrike source whatso ever..12:06
bob2CDK: you can't, in general.  "make uninstall" might work if yo ustill have the original source tree still12:07
bob2microhaxo: so, if you're a paying customer, go to their site and vote for it12:07
CDKi c12:07
bob2Hylas: I'd strongly recommend not doing that12:07
Hylasok12:07
microhaxoit is "Supported"12:07
nubbebob2, and I know th aprtition is flaky, so I guess win handles the errors better12:07
GNULinuxernubbe> what  files?12:07
bob2CDK: in future, checkinstall and stow are useful for that12:07
bob2microhaxo: then file a bug with them if it doesn't work12:07
microhaxobut just my luck it wont run on my sys12:07
Ubuntuxabbul: ok i use secure shell client12:07
xabbu|okey12:07
bob2microhaxo: ranting here isn't going to help it work, sorry12:07
microhaxonothing will help12:08
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nubbeGNULinuxer, why?12:08
microhaxoim pissed12:08
bob2microhaxo: then be pissed somewhere else12:08
bob2CDK: plese keep it on-channel12:08
GNULinuxernubbe> you said you can't view them in ubuntu ... that's why12:08
bob2CDK: they do different things, but checkinstall is probably simpler12:08
CDKsorry m8 i dont know how to talk to just you12:08
nubbeGNULinuxer, No, I said I can't read them12:09
nubbeGNULinuxer, As in ubuntu can't get the data from the ntfs part12:09
microhaxoARG, i cannot connect to this FTP, it needs SECURE connection but when i use SSH2 it times out?!?!12:09
GNULinuxernubbe> aha12:09
microhaxousing Gftp12:09
xabbu|Anyone knows of any hardware checking software for linux. That sees if something is broken like agp-ports and stuff.12:09
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bob2microhaxo: ssh has nothing to do with ftp over ssl12:10
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bob2xabbu|: I'm pretty sure it's not possible to detect that from software12:10
microhaxothen how do i connect securely?12:10
xabbu|Okey...12:11
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microhaxogFTP12:11
GNULinuxernubbe> NTFS read support is there in the ubuntu kernel12:11
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nubbeGNULinuxer, yes, but that doesn't cut it for me, that's why I asked if there was sometething better, more elaborate out there12:12
GNULinuxernubbe> can you succesfully mount the partition?12:12
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microhaxobob2: how do i connect securely to this ftp?12:13
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bob2microhaxo: I don't know what "ftp" you're talking about12:13
microhaxoi said12:13
bob2I hear gftp can do ftp/ssl, tho12:13
microhaxoits my prif ftp12:13
microhaxoanyway12:13
bob2"prif" is not a word12:13
microhaxogFTP12:13
microhaxoitsa  damn TOPSITE Mk12:13
microhaxoso12:14
bob2I have no idea what a "TOPSITE Mk" is, either12:14
microhaxoyou dont need to know12:14
nubbeGNULinuxer, I can mount and read most of it, just a few files that has errors, and did under xp too, but I just didn't realise that before, since I could read them with xp (that is no more)12:14
opteronQUOTE WHOIS %s %s12:14
microhaxoi need to connect to a server with SECURE Access.12:14
GNULinuxernubbe> it's corrupt now12:14
bob2microhaxo: throwing around buzzwords doesn't help12:14
nubbeGNULinuxer, NOOO?? really??   ;)12:15
bob2microhaxo: presumably it speaks ftp/ssl12:15
bob2microhaxo: if that doesn't work, talk to whoever runs it12:15
GNULinuxernubbe> the xp failure must have happended after you tried to read them from ubuntu, right?12:15
microhaxoyea sure, but how do i select this option in gFTP?12:15
microhaxothere is just drop down boxes12:15
GNULinuxernubbe> just apt-get install ntfsprogs12:15
microhaxoftp , http ,local ,ssh2,fsp12:15
opteron12:15
nubbeGNULinuxer, I'll look at them12:15
GNULinuxernubbe> and use ntfsfix from there and try to fix it12:16
microhaxo530 USE SECURE CONNECTION12:16
nubbeGNULinuxer, that I don't think I'll do12:16
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s00dNo takers? :-(12:17
bob2I'd use a less obscure firewall system, I guess12:18
microhaxolike?12:18
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tapiahi12:18
tapiaI have a problem with my ubuntu12:18
tapiaI have it installed Breezy in my ibook G412:19
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microhaxois there an easy to use FTP app?12:19
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bob2gftp is pretty easy to use12:19
tapiaand some dist-upgrade has broken my X keyboard layout12:19
floodoes anyone know anyting about name resolution?12:19
microhaxolol thats what im using12:19
bob2tapia: you're using hoary, right?12:19
microhaxoand it wont connect meh12:19
tapiabob2: no, breezy12:19
tapiait worked rigth till today12:19
microhaxowhats the diff between breezy and hoary?12:19
bob2microhaxo: lftp does it12:19
bob2breezy is the development branch12:20
tapiai had it configured for spanish layour12:20
tapialayout12:20
bob2which is not recommended for people who can't fix their own systems12:20
tapiabut now it is english12:20
bob2I guess X is broken again; you'll have to wait for daniel to fix it12:20
bob2try looking ni bugzilla, there's probably a workaround already12:20
tapiaand gnome-keyboard-properties crashes if i try to change the layout12:20
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microhaxobob212:21
microhaxosays i already got it12:21
microhaxois it gui or terminal?12:21
bob2cool12:21
bob2terminal12:21
microhaxoaww12:21
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bob2I thought all leet kiddies knew how to use command line ftp clients12:22
microhaxoim a windows user dammit12:22
microhaxoits only day 10 on linux12:22
bob2you use a gui client on windows? heh12:22
microhaxowtf12:22
Dalkusmicrohaxo, you'll get used to it in no time :)12:22
bob2it's easy to use12:22
microhaxothey dont make a "Terminal" FTP client for windows12:22
microhaxohah12:22
Dalkusmicrohaxo, theres plenty of gui ftp clients for linux too if you like12:22
bob2microhaxo: er, it ships with one12:22
Dalkusmicrohaxo, they do12:22
bob2microhaxo: type ftp in a command window sometime12:23
tapiamicrohaxo: apt-get install gftp-gtk12:23
microhaxok12:23
microhaxothanks12:23
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microhaxoi have gftp12:23
microhaxolol12:23
microhaxoi need a diff one12:23
microhaxoit wont let me connect securely12:23
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odie5533Using Telnet to a website, what command downloads the page?12:24
floocan anyone help me with a problem?  I keep getting "temporary failure in name resolution"  I can ping ip addrsses and the router but no domains.  I've checked resolv.conf and everything's ok there similarly with /etc/hosts... aaarrgghh!!! any ideas?12:24
bob2odie5533: GET12:24
bob2floo: can you ping the nameserves in /etc/resov.conf?12:25
odie5533GET what?12:25
odie5533just "GET"12:25
microhaxothats the command12:25
flooyes no probs there12:25
bob2GET $path HTTP/1.112:25
bob2or just ues the GET command from libwww-perl12:25
bob2or wget12:25
bob2or ...12:25
Triffid_Hunteryou need HOST too if you specify HTTP/1.112:25
bob2hmm, right12:26
microhaxothe only reason why i dont like linux is: i spent lots of money on my nifty RADEON X800XT PE and linux cant do anything with it.12:26
floook I'll give that a go, thanks12:26
Triffid_Hunterthat's ATI's fault, not linux's12:26
odie5533microhaxo: ebay12:26
microhaxobah12:26
microhaxono i am a GAMER12:26
odie5533sell it, and buy a real card, an nvidia12:26
odie5533me too12:26
microhaxoBAH12:26
microhaxonvidia sucks ass12:27
odie5533:O12:27
microhaxoi can own any of you in a 3dmark 05 benchmark12:27
Triffid_Hunteryeah my fx5200 works just fine in linux ;)12:27
bob2microhaxo: try to actually be polite12:27
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bob2and no one cares how big your video card is12:27
Ubuntuxabul: ill tright it but connection refused he says12:27
microhaxobah12:27
odie5533mines like bigger than my box12:27
Dalkusbob2, talk for yoruself12:27
odie5533it wont even fit in12:27
odie5533so i win12:27
microhaxolol12:27
microhaxono12:27
microhaxomine has 16 pipelines12:27
Vassilisanyone to spare a minute for a newbie?12:27
microhaxohah12:27
odie5533mine has its own power supply, and two led fans, i win12:27
microhaxono12:27
bob2and my radeon works fine in ubuntu12:27
microhaxomine works12:28
DalkusVassilis, dont ask to ask, just ask :)12:28
microhaxobut WHAT Games can i play?!12:28
Vassilisis there a way to pm just not fill the window?12:28
microhaxowho wants to play tux racer, integrated graphics card can run that 50FPS +12:28
microhaxoyea12:28
microhaxo./msg12:28
Triffid_Huntermicrohaxo: quake1,2,3, doom1,2,3, unreal, unreal tournament (goty,2003,2004), diablo 2 all work 100% on my box12:28
microhaxonot on mine12:28
microhaxounreal spits out some error12:28
microhaxothat is12:28
slycos you got a sh**t card maker12:28
microhaxoAmericas army12:28
Triffid_Hunterprobably your shit video card ;)12:28
microhaxo...12:29
odie5533bob2: If I want to get the /abc dir from telnet, what do I type?12:29
microhaxoin windows12:29
microhaxoATI = king12:29
slylmao @ windows12:29
Dalkusodie5533, why are you using telnet? Use wget12:29
slyyou are in the wrong place to talk about such crap12:29
Dalkusman wget :)12:29
microhaxodont get me going12:29
Triffid_Huntermore to the point, tight-ass manufacturer who doesn't care at all about a user in your situation, microhaxo12:29
Dalkusstop the god dammed flame war!12:29
DalkusThis is a HELP chan12:29
microhaxodo i care?12:29
odie5533wget only downloads things.... thats worthless12:29
Triffid_Huntermicrohaxo: it seems that you do12:29
microhaxoati did its job12:29
Vassilisso how the s..t do i mount my sd1 ntfs using ubuntu live cd? heh?12:29
odie5533Dalkus: flames can be helpful =P12:29
Triffid_Huntermicrohaxo: send em a bunch of nastygrams about it12:29
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Dalkusthis one is just pointless12:30
DalkusVassilis, I think ubuntuguide.org covers that12:30
Vassilisill see again thx12:30
Dalkusit should be the same for livecd12:30
microhaxoi dont get how people get so defensive over linux, it has been beat by windows many a times, sure it is advancing in desktop envirnment but heh, its no where near the level that windows is, i dont care what anyone says, windows is stable as hell, never broke on me once, till this damn linux fubard it up..12:30
Dalkusmicrohaxo, so why the hell are you using it? ;)12:31
microhaxoi run windows server 2003, never crashed once at my work12:31
microhaxoBECAUSE i want to learn multiple os's12:31
slywell learn about it rather than bitching about it eh ?12:31
Dalkusright, so be OPEN at learn about them, rather than flame about them12:31
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microhaxoBah, cuz everything i do doesnt work..12:32
microhaxoand ontop of that12:32
microhaxoit costs me 120.0-12:32
Dalkuslinux is stable and works perfectly - IF YOU KNOW what your doing and understand it - obviously. you cant expect to drive a car and not crash after just one day by yourself12:32
microhaxoi didnt crash a car my first time driving?12:32
Dalkusright, so because everything you do dosnt work means linux "dosnt work?" dont think so :) YOu just have to put time into learning about it12:32
slythat is not the OS fault , thats the card maker............. blame them not linux12:32
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s00dIt would help if the driving instructors instructed.12:32
microhaxowhat12:32
microhaxono12:32
Dalkusomg, it's called imagination12:32
microhaxoim talkin about INSTALLing apps12:32
Dalkusputting something in perspective? jeez....12:33
microhaxodont release an amd64 kernel if you dont have packages to back them up12:33
slyinstalling appz ??? what beats apt-get12:33
microhaxowhat beats it?12:33
microhaxowell12:33
Dalkusmicrohaxo, yes - you have to learn how to isntall apps, its just just one click install and wham like in windoze12:33
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microhaxowhen you are running a amd64 release that dont ACCEPT like any damn programs12:33
microhaxoi know how to apt-get12:33
microhaxoapt-get update12:33
microhaxoall that shit, it doesnt work well at all, they have no repositories for this release yet, but yet they release it to public..12:34
Dalkusmicrohaxo, well, not many windows apps are geard for x64 either.12:34
microhaxoi can run windows x64 fine12:34
slymicrohaxo may i ask how much your work paid for an offcial licence to run server 200312:34
microhaxoruns all my games?12:34
microhaxoand ati12:34
slyand not the copy you took in from home12:34
microhaxolots of damn money12:34
microhaxobut it runs FLAWLESSLY12:34
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Dalkusmy box runs flawlessly12:34
Triffid_Hunterhehe emerge easy beats apt-get, but thats just an opinion ;)12:34
microhaxoi have compiled stuff in linux to get it to work, i have changed it from rpm to deb, i have just ran it, i have installed from the package manager, sure its pretty easy but if 90% of the $hit isnt there to download and use why release an os12:35
microhaxoread the ubuntu forums, countless amd64 problems12:35
flooYes but genttoo can take forever compiling software before you can useit12:35
Dalkusmicrohaxo, read any OS' forums12:36
Dalkuscountless x84 problems12:37
Triffid_Hunterfloo: 's what stage3/--usepkg is for.. and its well worth the extra compile time to me, after all the problems i've had with debian and the like12:37
Dalkusthats the chipset, not the distro.12:37
Dalkusyou cant expect a new technology to work instantly12:37
flooI'm not against Gentoo, I tried a stage 1 compile but after a week of trying to get kde to compile, enough ws enough12:37
Dalkuspeople need time to develop for it - be patient..12:37
microhaxoi work for geeksquad at best buy12:39
microhaxothey have well enuff for windows 200312:39
microhaxolol12:39
microhaxoserver12:39
xabbu|Still why buy it?12:39
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slyso what is your actualy problem here microhaxo ?12:42
microhaxomy problem is12:42
microhaxolinux broke meh windows12:42
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microhaxoand now im stuck with linux12:42
microhaxoand it cant even play my damn games12:42
microhaxoso i have a very expensive system for nothing12:42
slyyou mean you simple didnt know what you was doing when installing a bootloader ?12:42
Dalkusmicrohaxo, install windows again?12:42
slyand dived in head first to install linux ?12:42
microhaxomy cd is FUBAR12:43
Dalkusmicrohaxo, borrow a friends then12:43
microhaxoand i dont have my cdkey, i ususally get it off of windows12:43
slywell your connected to the internet, download it12:43
Dalkus/me didnt say that12:43
microhaxoIm trying to download it12:43
microhaxoget me a decent FTP CLIENT12:43
microhaxo!12:43
ubotumicrohaxo: I don't know12:43
slyapt-get install gftp12:43
slyalso i beleive flashfxp runs good in wine12:44
microhaxohah12:44
microhaxonoting works in my wine12:44
microhaxo:|12:44
Dalkusnah, ubuntu build of wine sucks - I can't deny that12:44
microhaxolol12:44
Dalkusmicrohaxo, get amule to download it12:44
Dalkusor use bittorrent12:44
microhaxoi did12:45
microhaxoand it was DUTCHE12:45
Dalkusso... check before you download next time? :S12:45
Dalkusget the english version, maybe?12:45
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opteronhi12:46
microhaxoit said12:46
slyhey12:46
microhaxoenglish12:46
microhaxolol12:46
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mjthmm. are there any locailzed "builds" of ubuntu, at all?12:47
microhaxoomg12:47
microhaxowine froze installing flashfxp12:47
microhaxo:|12:47
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mjtinstaller and the OS supports alot of languages, but i'm not aware of any "stripped" builds12:48
Wimpieanybody around with knowledge about HAL ?12:48
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microhaxoi have a ATHLON 64 3400+ why does it take wine 7 min to load an app?!12:49
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holycowheh12:49
holycowhave you guys seen the flying donuts screensaver?12:49
holycowroxors12:49
holycow:)12:49
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slymicrohaxo you seem hell bent on showing people the size of your graphics card and system, and sit here bashing the os everyone in here i assume enjoys using............. do you exspect a reply ?12:50
microhaxoBAh12:50
microhaxo3400 is not big12:50
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microhaxoand this is shit12:51
microhaxoit froze?12:51
microhaxoand i cant even close it12:51
microhaxocuz its not in the toolbar deal12:51
slyxkill12:51
Wimpiehald (hardware abstraction layer daemon) claims missing features in kernel.  but which ?12:51
microhaxoeverything is freezing because of this wine12:51
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microhaxogod dammit12:52
microhaxoeverything is freezing12:52
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slyi bet you feel right at home being a windows user ;)12:53
daniel^aww, evil12:53
microhaxowindows has never froze on me12:53
microhaxoever12:53
microhaxoomg12:53
microhaxoxkill -all12:53
[alia_ynony] microhaxo: on my pc (celeron 900 Mhz) it takes 3 minutes. Let's interchange!12:53
microhaxowont work12:53
microhaxoits froze12:53
microhaxomy pc Amd a64 340012:53
microhaxo2.4ghz12:54
microhaxo1mb cache12:54
microhaxo10+12:54
microhaxonow12:54
microhaxoGod dammit12:54
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microhaxoBah12:55
Echyloback12:55
microhaxohad to restart x12:55
microhaxoit was all froze12:55
ThE__OnEwhy does my ip adress keep changing everytime i reboot ubuntu? I have cable and it never did that for winxp12:55
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microhaxocuz linux = paranoid12:56
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ThE__OnEbob2, are you there?12:57
HylasI can't see mplayer or xine-gui in apt-get, any ideas?12:58
EchyloHylas, www.ubuntuguide.org add the repo's12:58
ThE__OnEwhy does my ip adress keep changing everytime i reboot ubuntu? I have cable and it never did that for winxp12:59
Echylobtw quick question, can I change the colors of the menu bar? cause now I have black text on black wallpaper12:59
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Hylasok12:59
EchyloThE__OnE, maybe you don't have static ip? cause It would be weird that windows wouldn't have it, ur sure it's your outside ip?12:59
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ThE__OnEuhh, YEA!12:59
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mjtoh well. a bunch of bots.01:01
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Seveasgooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodafternoon #ubuntu!01:01
ThE__OnEflood01:01
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ThE__OnESeveas01:01
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ThE__OnEyou can hopefully answer my question01:01
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ThE__OnEwhy does my ip adress keep changing everytime i reboot ubuntu? I have cable and it never did that for winxp01:01
microhaxoWtf is going on01:01
ThE__OnEjoin part flood01:02
microhaxoI dir into where FLASHFXP is01:02
microhaxoand i do01:02
microhaxoCEDEGA flashfxp.exe01:02
microhaxoand it opens it for .141414 of a second and closes?01:02
SeveasThE__OnE, join/part flood?01:02
Seveasdid I miss something?01:02
microhaxono but seveas, you did miss my question ;)01:03
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microhaxowhy does flashfxp.exe open for .150140 of a second and close?01:03
microhaxowith no error01:03
SeveasThE__OnE, maybe your cable provider changed things01:03
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Seveasmicrohaxo, no idea, I never use windows software on linux01:03
microhaxopoo01:03
ThE__OnESeveas, it changes every time01:03
ztonzywho the heck is ^^furkan^^  ???01:03
ThE__OnEi dont think they wil change it every time01:03
ThE__OnEi reboot01:04
SeveasThE__OnE, if you use dhcp, it changes all the time01:04
Seveasmaybe windows kept the dhcp lease longer01:04
puslingztonzy: probably someone with a homepage and images01:04
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Seveasbut the nature of dhcp is that you can get a different IP address all the time01:04
ThE__OnEdhcp?01:04
ztonzypusling, posting link in PM to me in a language that is ALIEN to me01:05
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ThE__OnEi dont use anyth9ing01:05
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SeveasThE__OnE, that's what you use when not using a fixed address...01:05
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ThE__OnEianm using a fixed address01:05
ztonzylolita ? heh01:05
ThE__OnEi had the same addres for 2years01:05
puslingztonzy: sure. I got sometning alike. and there is probably coming more in the next period of time.01:05
ztonzypusling, spamming ?01:06
Seveasstupid kiddies...01:06
puslingztonzy: look at all the joins/parts01:06
ztonzyuh01:06
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microhaxoGUYS01:08
microhaxoi cant install wine01:08
microhaxowithout installing libwine01:08
Seveasof course...01:08
microhaxowhich i cant because in package manager it says that its a dummy file?01:08
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microhaxolibwine:01:09
microhaxo Depends: wine  but it is not installable01:09
microhaxosoo, can anyone give me the files so i can install or is there a way around this?01:09
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ThE__OnESeveas, do you haev an answer?01:09
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Seveasmicrohaxo, libwine in the official ubuntu repos is ok01:10
microhaxoseveas01:10
SeveasThE__OnE, i gave you an answer already...01:10
microhaxoi just pasted my error when trying to dload them?01:10
microhaxolibwine:01:10
microhaxo Depends: wine  but it is not installable01:10
Seveasyou use dhcp, so you can get it...01:10
ThE__OnEcan it be something that Ubuntu does while looking up for internet that causes an ip change?01:10
Seveasmicrohaxo, have you enabled multiverse?01:10
microhaxoyes01:10
microhaxouniverse and multiverse01:10
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Seveasmicrohaxo, maybe you should disable backports...01:11
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microhaxoseveas01:14
microhaxothat doesnt work?01:14
Beredontrying to install ubuntu 5.04 with vmware. all seems fine until the error "No partitionable media were found" when it attempts to partition the disk. any ideas?01:14
microhaxowth do i do?01:14
puslingSeveas: what about mode -r again ?01:15
Seveasmicrohaxo, apt-get update after disabling backports01:15
Sly86micorhaxo is this all for flashfxp still ?01:15
Seveaspusling, i want to give it a few minutes...01:15
puslingSeveas: okay01:15
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microhaxoseveas01:17
microhaxodont work01:17
microhaxoat all01:17
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microhaxoseveas01:18
microhaxowth is goin on now, EVERY time i look at glxgears01:18
Seveasmicrohaxo, then you have done something weird...01:18
microhaxonow my drivers arnt loaded01:18
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microhaxoWTF01:18
ThE__OnEhow do i change pdfs from being oopen with Xpdf?01:18
microhaxohmm01:18
Seveasmicrohaxo, try installing it, if a dependency fails, try installing that dependency with apt-get01:18
Seveasuntil you get a more clear error than 'is not installable'01:19
SeveasThE__OnE, rightvlivk on a pdf, select properties...01:19
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microhaxoseveas, my graphics are being weird01:19
microhaxo2000fps in glxgears01:19
microhaxothis is what fglrxinfo shows01:19
microhaxoOpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.01:19
microhaxoOpenGL renderer string: RADEON X800 XT Generic01:19
microhaxoOpenGL version string: 1.3.4769 (X4.3.0-8.8.25)01:19
Seveasmicrohaxo, that's a good score01:19
microhaxothats bad01:19
microhaxoi was gettin 600001:19
microhaxo742501:19
microhaxowas average01:20
microhaxonow i get 200001:20
microhaxo?01:20
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holycowno01:20
holycowi bet you scaled up your glx gears window01:20
microhaxoerr it looks the same to me?01:20
Seveasmicrohaxo, well, maybe you made the glxscreen bigger or had the window behind other windows...01:20
holycowchange the size of the window and your rate will change01:20
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microhaxono01:21
microhaxoits the same01:21
microhaxoif i make it smaller than 64/64 i get 300001:21
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microhaxosomthing is wrong01:21
microhaxob4 i got 700001:21
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microhaxo+01:21
microhaxoontop of that01:22
microhaxopoint2play says i dont have cedega installed?01:22
microhaxowtf?01:22
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Sly86microhaxo why would you be installing stuff such as that when you are trying to download windows to go back to it ?01:22
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microhaxothis has been installed01:22
microhaxoand windows ant goin no where01:23
microhaxocuz01:23
microhaxoi cant connect to the server to download windows01:23
microhaxodammit01:23
microhaxoBECAUSE cedega wont load flashfxp01:23
puslingapt-get install windows01:23
Sly86gftp then01:23
Sly86haha @ pusling01:23
holycowwtf?01:23
Seveasmicrohaxo, use gftp/nautilus/other *linux* ftp tools01:23
holycowflashfxp?01:23
Seveasthere are enough of them...01:24
holycowwhat the hell you need that for?01:24
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Seveasand we do not support copyright infringment in here..01:24
puslingE: Couldn't find package windows01:24
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holycowwhat Seveas said01:25
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microhaxoseveas you mean the places connect one?01:25
Seveasmicrohaxo, there are lots of ftp tools for linux...01:26
microhaxoi need one that runs on x01:26
Seveasyou can use firefox01:26
microhaxolol01:26
Seveasor nautilus01:26
microhaxoi need01:26
microhaxoSECURE access01:26
Seveaskonqueror...01:26
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Seveasnautilus/konqueror can do that...01:26
microhaxohow?01:26
Seveassigh01:26
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Seveasi explained that 3 times yesterday...01:26
Seveasdon't you ever listen?01:26
microhaxono :|01:26
_paxAny Kontact users around? Kontact is getting annoying, asking for password every time I send or try to receive email. My pass is stored already, why does it keep asking?01:27
Seveaswell, neither will I..01:27
Seveas /ignore01:27
Sly86Ouch01:27
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unrealnice, just booted up the livecd on my other box, had the computer literally own me at connect4 :/01:27
Seveaslol unreal :)01:28
microhaxowhat the fk01:28
microhaxo Seveas added to ignore list.01:28
microhaxoand i see him say lol unreal01:28
unrealmaybe you need to add Seveas*!*@* instead01:28
Slywhat i realy want to see is a network play frozen-bubble01:28
xabbu|omg01:28
microhaxoi did01:28
SeveasSly, hehe :)01:28
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_paxto ignore someone, just leave the room.01:29
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Slydamn i installed kubuntu for friend the other day........... and i apt-get'd frozen-bubble befor other things01:29
microhaxolol01:29
unreal(I keep typing ebuntu for some reason, almost got to the habit of typing ubuntu now, but maybe that's just another one of my retarded sides heh)01:29
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_paxebuntu,org just got registred, thanks for the idea.01:30
_paxJust kidding :)01:30
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_paxHey, no Kontact users?01:30
Slyright im outa here to go do real life things :) , take care01:30
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puslingdoes anyone run ubuntu on anything? isn't ubuntu just a big hoax ? ;)01:30
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Seveaspusling, sssssst :)01:31
Sly-Awaymicrohaxo if i was you i would ask around all your friends for windows disk, because from what i have heard you talk about for the past hour or so, its what you realy want01:31
SeveasDon't let the minions of Gates find out ;)01:31
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_paxhehe01:31
Seveasunreal, please don't01:32
Seveasthat can get soooooo messy01:32
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unreallol01:32
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puslingoff for work01:33
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microhaxosomeone tell me how the hell i can connect to a ftp SECURELY via Konqueror?01:35
microhaxoi cant find any docs on google01:35
puslingftp is not secure.01:35
Seveassftp is :)01:36
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puslingyeah... but that is different thing01:36
londonboi2k3 FTP is not a secure method for transfering files01:37
londonboi2k3according to http://www.ncl.ac.uk/iss/network/ftp/01:37
siimomicrohaxo, sftp://username@server.com01:37
rob^microhaxo, you could via a vpn01:37
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chasewhen i installed ubuntu it never gave me and apt repositorys. can someone tell me what the default are or point me to a web pages that has it?01:38
rob^or even with ipsec01:38
Seveaschase: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:39
Seveaschase: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3801:39
rob^chase, have you checked your /etc/apt/sources.list ?01:39
holycowchase type in sudo apt-setup01:39
londonboi2k3this is good for repos http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories01:39
chaserob^, ye the only this in it deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted01:40
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rob^ah01:40
Seveaslondonboi2k3, ubuntuguide is bad, do not advise it...01:40
rob^well follow one of those links then01:40
rob^weard01:40
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rob^Seveas, maybe, but at the moment its better organised01:40
puslingSeveas: why is ubuntuguide bad ?01:40
londonboi2k3When i use ubutu, (i dont anymore) as a new user i found it to be very good. :)01:40
ru1812hello01:40
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Seveaspusling, misinformation, suboptimal to plain wrong solutions and no explanations at all...01:41
Sly-Awaylondonboi2k3 is it sunny down there ?01:41
londonboi2k3in fact i found it to be better then any other install guide for the other distros01:41
londonboi2k3not so much today01:41
Seveaslondonboi2k3, the faq on the ubuntu site is much better01:41
londonboi2k3yesturday it was 34c01:41
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Sly-Awayim sat here with ALL windows/doors open and a fan pointing directly at me which im still sweating01:42
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londonboi2k3Seveas: i cant comment on that guide, i sorta went back to debain not anyways ;)01:42
puslingand it is even hotter at work... and I need to go, but ;=01:42
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londonboi2k3Sly: we have the air con on full here, but i would love a fan too! so bloody hot, wanna share you fan :)01:42
Sly-Awaylol01:43
ru1812i found ubuntu good for new users and advanced01:43
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_paxI found Ubuntu. period01:43
londonboi2k3grr, i keep forgetting the r in your..... Mental note to self remember your 'r's :)01:43
unrealheh, ubuntu is going to be good for new users, mainly because you just stick the disc in and have everything done for you :P01:44
londonboi2k3ubuntu is a great distro, but i did have one tiny problem with it! I could not play wma files01:44
puslingand ubuntu is good for advanced users becouse you stick in the disc, and all the basics works01:44
londonboi2k3that really did not annoy me too much tho01:44
londonboi2k3true01:44
puslinglondonboi2k3: wma is evil01:44
steobeverything done for you? ahh thats why I had to d/l  ALSA, frig around wif USB and still get garbled sound01:44
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synopsyssalve a tutti01:45
londonboi2k3yeah i know, but i could be be bothered to convert 2500+ songs01:45
londonboi2k3they were given to me by my partner who uses M$ windows01:45
Seveaslondonboi2k3, with w32codecs wma works :)01:45
kvidellYou have 2500+ wmas?01:45
londonboi2k3yeah, i know it should, but it dosent on my install, i tried 4 times, even with the xmms-wma deb01:45
topylilondonboi2k3: you can play wmas after installing the evil codec01:45
kvidellWhat kind of a sadistic prank was that? Did you smack the person who did that to you with a stick?01:46
_paxUbuntu can't make coffee yet, how come!01:46
kvidell_pax: No, but I can :D01:46
londonboi2k3lol @ kvidell01:46
kvidellFrench Press ahoy01:46
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Seveasthe wma encoding is very good01:46
topyli_pax: install coffee.el to your emacs01:46
_paxOui oui.01:46
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pusling2500+ wmas is even more evil. And if they are digital restriction management wma (DRM-wma) you have lost.01:46
Seveasthe DRM and other crap that surround it aren't01:46
londonboi2k3no DRM on them :)01:46
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londonboi2k3altho i did get sent some MP4's and they have loads of DRM so i cant play them atall01:47
unrealheh, I laughed a tiny bit when installing the latest FreeBSD release with a few packages... it didn't prioritize which to install first, it just went through the list.. forcing you to take out disc 1, put disc 2 in, then take out disc 2 and put disc 1 back in, several times... least ubuntu only has one disc so far :p01:47
londonboi2k3but only got 15 of those01:47
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londonboi2k3why is it that mondays at work drag and go so damm slow01:48
microhaxoi cannot sftp to this server i get this error01:48
microhaxoUnknown error01:49
microhaxo Error encountered while talking to ssh.01:49
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Sly-Awaylondonboi be thankful your at work im off down job center in 30mins01:49
londonboi2k3@ microhaxo, does it have ssh setup to acess it securely via ftp? or how ever it is setup! do01:49
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londonboi2k3ooooo, which part of london? north east south or west?01:49
mindspinSly-Away ;-)01:50
londonboi2k3or you not from london01:50
Sly-Awaynah, sheffield :)01:50
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londonboi2k3oooo01:50
londonboi2k3:)01:50
Sly-Awayall the way down that bigass m101:50
beavisneed help ......... regarding packages01:50
londonboi2k3hehe01:50
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Seveasbeavis, just state the problem01:50
beavisi want to upgrade my samba version to 3.1401:50
beavisbut .. i cant see it on the packages list01:50
beavisof synaptic01:50
londonboi2k3well i went to the JC for 6 months before getting this job but the day i got this i was offered 3 at the same time! Just like waiting for a bus01:51
topylibeavis: what's in samba 3.14?01:51
Seveasbeavis, 3.14 will never be added to Hoary, Hoary is stable..01:51
beavisi'm used to the one in VLOS where i can update the package list over the net01:51
beavisoh ...01:51
beaviswell anyway .. here's another prob ...01:51
Seveasbeavis, wait for breezy to stabilize and use that :)01:51
beavisi want it to be like windows ... wherein when i access a server over the network, ...01:51
beavisi can open the document file01:52
beavisi tried it .. but there seems to be an smb error01:52
topyliwhat sort of error?01:52
mindspinwhich?01:52
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beavishold on .. let me replicate the error again01:52
mindspinwas does /var/log log.smbd say01:52
Seveasbeavis, how are you accessing, via an smb:// url in nautilus or using smbmount?01:52
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Seveasor are you serving..?01:53
beavisnautilus01:53
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topylifagbreaker01:53
beavissorry, am used to windows so much i want to try this ubuntu .. i think it's kewl01:53
beavisbut .. have no background on linux so i'd rather ask01:53
mindspinit works here very fine although I#m not used to windows...01:54
Seveasbeavis, what is the error you get..?01:54
beavisfile cannot be found01:54
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beavisim connecting to a windows 2003 server01:55
Seveasbeavis, try smb://ip-adress-of-the-server01:55
vulcanoobonnjour01:55
AMDXPman its bad to fall asleep in chat01:55
beavisuhm ... ok .. will try now01:55
Seveashello vulcanoo01:55
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wuhuuhi01:55
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vulcanoohello why is there no icon when i install a app?01:55
topyliAMDXP: yeah, your snoring flooded the darn channel01:55
Seveasvulcanoo, because the package that the application came in did not define a menu entry...01:56
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Seveastopyli: lol!01:56
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vulcanoook so i have to use smeg?01:56
Seveasvulcanoo, that's a good option01:56
topylivulcanoo: or maybe the menu just hasn't updated yet01:56
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wuhuuI just switched form debian sid to ubuntu hoary but now my kdesu isn't working anymore it says: "Conversation with su failed" on debian sid everything worked fine... what could that be?01:57
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beavisSeveas : ... here is the error .....01:57
beavis"Error Loading Document "01:57
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topyliwuhuu: we don't use su01:57
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vulcanoothanks.But i thought that every app which is installed with a ubuntu package comes with a icon01:57
_bambisince i installed nvidia drivers to my new ubuntu, and changed the screen resolution to 1280x1024 @ 75Khz, there are some small graphic bugs, for example: clicking a small icon on my task bar produces normally a small jumping image of the program that is loading. For me, this jumping pics have an white background, but the background should be transparten01:57
Seveasvulcanoo, they are working on that01:57
mindspinwuhu ubuntu works with sudo01:58
Seveasconsole apps however eill never get an icon01:58
Seveasthat would be pretty useless anyway :)01:58
wuhuutopyli, but i need it to configure kdm01:58
beavis"file:///home/beavis/smb://192.168.253.3/FileServ/it-shared/values.doc:/home/beavis/smb:/192.168.253.253.3/FileServ/IT-Shared/values.doc does not exist01:58
mindspinsudo kcontrol01:58
Seveaswuhuu, use plain sudo then...01:58
vulcanooyes but i installed gribi01:58
wuhuuk01:58
vulcanoogrisbi01:58
wuhuuthx01:58
topyliwuhuu: use sudo in a terminal01:58
beavisSeveas: .. that's the entire error msg.01:58
Seveasbeavis, ehm, you didn't try smb://ip-address as i said01:58
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Seveasyou just added it to a file:///home/neavis url01:59
beavisi tried it ...01:59
beavisused run applic ... then the nautilus popped up ...01:59
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vulcanoomost apps i have installed: digikam en grisbi ->no icon01:59
beavisbrowsed to the file to open it01:59
beavisbut this is the error01:59
Seveasbeavis, try places -> connect to server (that's less easy to do wrong)01:59
_bambihi02:00
_bambii got a smaller probmel too02:00
vulcanoobye02:00
topylivulcanoo: not nearly all packages make those menu entries yet (except into the debian menu)02:00
vulcanoook thanks a lot.02:00
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_bambi:)02:01
_bambii got a small problem with my ubuntu02:01
_bambiand my nvidia drivers02:01
londonboi2k3what is your problem exactly?02:01
_bambithere are some small graphic bugs: When i click on an application, there is this small jumping pic, indicating that the app is loading. This Pictures have an White background for me02:02
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_bambibut not straight white, some buggy background02:02
Seveasjumping pic..?02:03
_bambipicture02:03
_bambismall icon02:03
Seveasnormally there are no jumping pictures on Ubuntu...02:03
_bambiwell its kubuntu02:03
mindspinits kubuntu02:03
Seveas_bambi, try #kubuntu then :)02:03
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mindspinhhaha02:03
_bambiLol, i came from there :)02:03
mindspinlol02:04
Seveashehe :)02:04
holycowSeveas, heh02:04
holycowyou are going to get worn out02:04
holycowi think i understand why they are so grumpy in #debian02:04
Seveasholycow, why..?02:04
londonboi2k3whys that?02:04
holycowyou've been answering the same question all night02:04
Seveasnot really02:04
londonboi2k3hmm, maybe thats why i got banned for a month 2 years ago ;)02:05
londonboi2k3from #debian that is02:05
holycowhehe02:05
Seveasfor all these over-and-over repeated things i have shortcuts :)02:05
holycowit's good to see enthusiasm :)02:05
holycowi got my 'smite those that don't google' 2x4 ready to go02:05
holycow:)02:05
holycowaka. the cluexfour02:06
_bambiis that a hint for me? should i rather google my problem?02:06
holycowno no, not at all02:06
Seveas_bambi, nono :)02:06
_bambiwell i did, but i didn't find some solution :D02:06
holycowit just means i don't have the patience Seveas does :)02:06
SeveasI just don't use KDE, so I cannot help you02:06
londonboi2k3_bambi, maybe this is a problem with your nvidia card02:06
Seveastry the mailing list, there are more smart people over there02:06
londonboi2k3since you said you are having problems with that too02:07
beavisSeveas: Found out the error is due to open office ...02:07
_bambiAh in fact its only this little problem02:07
londonboi2k3which is?02:07
DanarSeveas, i think he said the problem was with his nvidia drivers, not kde, so you might be able to help...02:07
beavisSeves: I tried opening a text file with gedit .. it opened in the original network location02:07
beavisSeveas: but when i tried it w/ open office 1.1.3 ... it had location error02:07
londonboi2k3problems with my ATI card cocked up lots om gnome for me till i fixed it :)02:07
beavisSeveas: How can i upgrade the open office ?02:08
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_bambiThe Problem is, that the jumping icons (you see when an application is loading) comes with an white buggy background, but they should be transparent02:08
topylihmm. i thought openoffice would use gnomevfs02:08
\shis there a tool for a desktop-background rotation?02:08
londonboi2k3ok we got that, but what is the little problem with your nvidia card?02:08
Danar_bambi, are you using the official drivers?02:08
Seveasbeavis, a beta version of OO.o 2 is in the Universe repository02:09
_bambii installed nvidia-glx02:09
Seveasbeavis, but both do not understand the gnome-vfs, so this will not work02:09
Danarfrom where?02:09
Seveasyou will have to mount the samba shares02:09
londonboi2k3and have you setup your xorg.conf file correctly?02:09
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londonboi2k3assuming that you installed the correct nvidia drivers02:10
Seveas_bambi, have you run the command: nvidia-glx-enable02:10
_bambii think so, cause now i even got the possibility to use my monitor @ 1280x1024, which was impossible before02:10
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beavisSeveas: Can you please teach me how to download it on the repository ..02:10
Danar_bambi, did you have this problem with the previous drivers?02:10
londonboi2k3and is it using the "nv" drivers?02:10
beavisSeveas: I tried checking updates ... nothin'02:10
microhaxowhats the command to see 3d benchmark like glxgears02:10
Seveasbeavis: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:10
microhaxois it fglgears?02:10
Seveasbeavis: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3802:10
dmoyneis-it safe to download KDE 3.4.1 ?02:11
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_bambiIch chose nv drivers, but didn't experience the problem before02:11
Seveasdmoyne, downloading it will not hurt ;)02:11
_bambiI chose nv drivers, but didn't experience the problem before02:11
dmoynenot sure as sometimes it can put the mess especially with NOT AUTHENTICATED packages !02:12
Seveasdmoyne, well, that's be installing :)02:12
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Seveasand I wouldn't install KDE from anything but official ubuntu repositories if i were you..02:12
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_bambii had to reconfigure the xserver, because before it only offered 1024x768 for screen resolution, so i installed the nvidia-glx and reconfigured xserver02:12
londonboi2k3fglx_gears i think micro02:12
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dmoyne Seveas, wahtdo you mean : have you installed it ?02:13
Seveasdmoyne, no, I don't like KDE :)02:13
Danar_bambi, so maybe they're not installed properly or something02:13
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_bambithis maybe, but how can i check this?02:13
Seveasbut since KDE is one of the most important parts of your desktop, never install it from backports or such...02:13
new2gentoohas anyone seen this? http://www.debianpure.com? i wonder why this did not happen sooner02:14
dmoyneok I think I will wait for the packages be proposed on typical repositries !02:14
topylinew2gentoo: nice wallpaper on the gnome screenshot02:15
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holycownot new user friendly?02:15
holycowthats just crap02:16
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microhaxobo that dont work02:23
microhaxofglx_gears02:23
microhaxo:|02:23
ThE__OnEis it possible to browse through the pictures in a folder with the arrow keys instead of opening each seperate one?02:23
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topyligraungaard: that must be the longest hostnames i've seen in a while :)02:24
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beavisSeveas: Have trouble updating repository .. can you just give me the URL02:26
Danarrepository urls are here: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3802:27
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beavistnx i'll check it out first02:29
beaviswish me luck02:29
beavis:))02:29
new2gentooThE__OnE, try page up/down02:29
microhaxoguys02:30
microhaxohow do i change this?02:30
microhaxoGL_RENDERER: Mesa GLX Indirect02:30
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microhaxoi want it to be ati02:30
microhaxoET says im using MESA software but fglrxinfo says ATI>?02:31
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GNULinuxerwelcome _eXoDuS02:33
_eXoDuSnow, shit, since when did mplayer start depending on xmms??? I wasn't informed about it, this is lame!02:33
Seveas_eXoDuS, it does not...02:33
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_eXoDuStry apt-get install mplayer-686 in hoary02:33
Seveasand please watch your language...02:34
GNULinuxerSeveas> we need to be cool with  noobs02:34
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Seveas_eXoDuS, i stand corrected...02:35
_eXoDuSSeveas: lame isnt it?02:35
SeveasI still use an old one from marillat though :)02:35
_eXoDuSah :)02:35
_eXoDuSsorry i just apt-get upgraded from sid to hoary to try it out, and that really bited me02:35
SeveasI can imagine..02:36
ThE__OnEis it possible to browse through the pictures in a folder with the arrow keys instead of opening each seperate one?02:36
_eXoDuSthat should be fixed sincerely02:36
SeveasThE__OnE, you can use eog02:36
_eXoDuSmplayer doesn't depend on xmms at all02:36
ThE__OnEeog?02:36
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Seveas_eXoDuS, file a bug then :)02:36
_eXoDuSSeveas: ugh :)02:36
SeveasThE__OnE, try eog *.jpg02:36
GNULinuxerSeveas> which component of xmms can mplayer *possibly* use?02:36
cmihaiHmf, no sshd in a default Ubuntu install ?!02:36
_eXoDuSSeveas: where?02:36
SeveasGNULinuxer, i wouldn't know02:36
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Seveasmaybe mp3 decoding..?02:36
_eXoDuSGNULinuxer: none ,really, in sid it doesn't depend on mplayer at all02:36
_eXoDuSerr02:36
_eXoDuSon xmms02:36
Seveas_eXoDuS, bugzilla.ubuntu.com02:36
GNULinuxercmihai> it's in the CD02:36
_eXoDuSSeveas: ok ill do that, thanks02:37
cmihaiGNULinuxer: is it ?02:37
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cmihaiWell, didn't install it by default from what I can see02:37
Seveascmihai, correct02:37
GNULinuxercmihai> yeah ... but it is not installed by default02:37
ThE__OnEfrom the terminal?02:37
_eXoDuSSeveas: also, not to be an ass, but who thought that closing spatial windows when opening new ones was a good idea?? :/02:37
cmihaiGrr, that's crap.02:37
Seveasthe Ubuntu policy is to install no services by default02:37
Seveascmihai, no it's good :)02:37
GNULinuxercmihai> when you try to apt-get it, it'll ask for the cd02:37
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microhaxohow do i  change my i686 kernel from 2.6.7-13 to 2.6.8-1.02:37
microhaxo?02:37
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Seveas_eXoDuS, there have been very long discussions about it02:38
Seveasyou can disable that behaviour in gconf02:38
_eXoDuSyes i know02:38
cmihaiYea, now it's only a matter of "where the hell did I put the CDROM".02:38
SeveasI didn't like that behaviour too02:38
_eXoDuSi found the key after looking for a lil bit02:38
Seveascmihai, you can install it from the net too :)02:38
_eXoDuSbut i think it's very lame, just use browser mode if you dont like spatial02:38
topyliyeah. who killed spatial!02:38
_eXoDuSbut that is like a limited browser mode02:38
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_eXoDuSno way to go back (if not for the lower left menu)02:38
Seveas:)02:39
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trashmanhiall02:39
cazabamblimey, 2 seconds on the channel and I recognise spatial nautilus discussion :)02:40
_eXoDuSSeveas: i really hope they change that behaviour in the future02:40
SeveasOh and if anyone wants a rationale for why i muted microhaxo (just for the logs): he's being a pain in the ass, never listening to suggestions and generally trolling02:40
_eXoDuSSeveas: ah, i was wondering ;)02:40
Seveas_eXoDuS, lots of people do, lots of people don't02:40
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GNULinuxerSeveas> thanks for the explanation02:40
microthis is bullshit02:40
microdont fucking QUIETME02:40
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GNULinuxerhardocp> don't troll02:40
_eXoDuSSeveas: well done :p02:41
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trashmanIam using alsa drivers for my sound card ,but when Im watching a video it doesnt syncronize with the sound.Are there other drivers I can use?02:42
SeveasGNULinuxer, i think that microhaxo disagrees with you :)02:42
GNULinuxerSeveas> lol02:42
cazabamtrashman: it's unlikely that the alsa drivers are the problem02:42
_root_anybody got patch to http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2005-1111 issue ?02:42
cazabamtrashman: what video player(s) have you tried?02:42
Seveastrashman, try another media player, usually it's the media player that causes these things02:42
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Seveas_root_, it's still a CVE under investigation...02:43
trashmanseveas :I used mplayer,gmplayer,xine,gxine,totem...02:43
Seveas_root_, keep an eye on the security mailing list02:43
Seveastrashman, hmm...02:43
Seveasdoes it happen with all video formats?02:44
trashmanseveas :yes,even with dvds02:44
_root_Severas: i am checking on some.. could you suggest a good one02:44
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Seveas_root_, I meant the ubuntu-security list :)02:44
Seveasthat's where ubuntu security notices are announced02:44
_root_Seveas : it would be nice if you give the complete link02:45
Seveastrashman, which one goes faster..?02:45
_eXoDuSSeveas: mmm, bugzilla keeps telling me i should select a component, if not just guess... what is it talking about??02:45
Seveas_root_, lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo02:45
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_root_Seveas : thanx02:45
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Seveas_eXoDuS, ehm ,disregard my advise02:45
Seveas_eXhumed, unuverse/multiverse bugs should go to malone02:46
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Seveaslaunchpad.ubuntu.com/malone iirc02:46
_eXoDuSoh, didnt notice mplayer was on universe02:46
Seveasit's in multiverse02:46
_eXoDuSin multi?02:46
_eXoDuSmmm02:46
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Seveasyeah, it's non-free like software (mp3 related badnesses)02:47
Seveaswow02:47
Seveassplit splat02:47
topyliheh02:47
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Danar'mp3 related badness'?02:49
topylisometimes i wonder how freenode channels stay up at all02:49
_eXoDuSSeveas: done02:49
Seveas_eXoDuS, excellent02:50
DanarSeveas, 'mp3 related badness'?02:50
_eXoDuS=] 02:50
topyliDanar: nobody knows the exact legal status of mplayer. no-one can be bothered to spend the three years in court02:50
_eXoDuSDanar: anything non free is called badness :)02:50
SeveasDanar, mp3 is tricky business regarding patents02:50
_eXoDuSDanar: and mp3's licensing future is uncertain02:50
Seveasso there are mists of non-freeness lingering around lots of mp3 related software02:50
Danari had the impression mp3 was open :/02:50
_eXoDuSno, not a bit02:50
SeveasDanar, wrong impression :)02:50
Danaryeah... now i remember02:51
Danarbah02:51
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topyliit's as evil as they come02:51
Danaro.O02:51
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_eXoDuSSeveas: i feel dirty installing xmms for mplayer :/02:51
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Danarhrm, is mp32ogg considered badness?02:51
Danarsince it can obviously deal with mp3s...02:52
jamesI am trying to transcode some ShowShifter video files into another format. I've been told gstreamer is the tool for this; when I use gst-launch, I get the error "Could not determine type of stream". Any ideas?02:52
_eXoDuSDanar: most likely yes02:52
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Danarbut it just converts them02:52
topyliit's considered penance :)02:52
cazabammaybe mp32ogg is just transient badness...02:52
Danaro.O02:52
cazabama pergatory of media formats :)02:52
topylii wonder if the evil travels from mp3 to ogg through the conversion02:53
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Seveastopyli, lol :)02:53
Danarit just converts mp3 to ogg... it oughtta be 'non-bad'02:53
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Danartopyli, lol02:53
topyliit just might guys! ;)02:53
cazabamdon't let the mpaa hear that...02:53
Danaryou mean the riaa :p02:53
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cazabamyess....02:54
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cazabamI don't want no tainted oggs!02:54
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jamesCan anyone help me with my video transcoding?02:54
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Danarmy oggs are tainted... (assuming they still exist :()02:55
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topylijames: speak of the devil :)02:55
cazabamfrom the mp32ogg page: " THIS DEGRADES THE QUALITY, because it goes from one lossy format to another"02:56
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topyliyes02:56
cazabamthe evil eats away the goodness of the ogg!02:56
jamestopyli, can you help me? :)02:56
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Danaryeh, but there were only a few songs where i noticed any degradation02:56
topylijames: sorry, i haven't transcoded a video in my life02:56
Danarand you can set it on the highest quality...02:56
topyliflac!02:57
cazabamI encode(d) my mp3s to 320kbit, so they should be great02:57
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ernesto_hi ppl... i have a problem at my Add/Remove Applications Control Panel... When  I call it, the window opens and it loads, loads, loads... but never shows nothing... someone know how to fix or reinstall it  ?02:57
Danarthat would make them huge though02:57
cazabamflac is like 33rpm vynil02:57
Danaruh, ernesto_ , this is an #ubuntu channel, not a windows channel :p02:58
cazabam3 times bigger but better quality (arguable :))02:58
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ThE__OnEwhere can i get themes for ubuntu?02:58
cazabamdanar: hoary has an add/remove programs applet in the programs->system menu02:58
ThE__OnEcan i jsut search google for "linux themes"?02:58
Seveasernesto_, that application should not be used, try System->administration->package manager instead02:58
topyliDanar: flacs are big, yes02:58
cazabamdanar: unless you knew that, in which case ignore me :)02:58
jamestopyli, okay thanks anyway02:58
jamesI'll post my problem02:58
jamesI am trying to transcode some ShowShifter video files into another format. I've been told gstreamer is the tool for this; when I use gst-launch, I get the error "Could not determine type of stream". Any ideas?02:58
ernesto_Danar, but it's happening at my   UBUNTU!!!!02:59
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Danarah, i see02:59
topyliThE__OnE: for gnome, http://gnome-look.org and http://art.gnome.org02:59
Danarsystem tools > add/remove02:59
ThE__OnEthanks you02:59
cazabamernesto danar: yep - that one's a bit weird though - I have had it fail when synaptic is fine...03:00
Danarthere ought to be themes in the repository03:00
topylithere are some03:00
Danarheh, clicking advanced opens synaptic03:00
ThE__OnEtopyli, so i can get any theme as long as its for gnome?03:00
topyliThE__OnE: yeah03:01
ernesto_Seveas: i know about other ways to install/uninstall programs but it was working fine until yesterday...03:01
ThE__OnEok03:01
jamesDoes anyone know anything about gstreamer?03:01
ernesto_I simply dont want a part of my software bugged...03:01
Seveasernesto_, perhaps you have installed an updated version of pygtk related things...03:02
Danarernesto_, might be better off using synaptic03:02
cazabamjames: not sure that gstreamer supports showshifter?03:02
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Danarernesto_, in gnome, System > Administration > Synaptic03:03
ernesto_seveas, probably you are right... the problem appeared after an update03:03
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Seveas:)03:03
cazabamjames: needs a plugin for each supported format or decoding library - google turns up blank03:03
Seveasernesto_, are you using backports/other unofficial repositories or smeg?03:03
jamescazabam: Thanks. Is there a tool to figure out the encoded audio and video layers for GNU/Linux?03:04
WimpieI need to recompile the kernel because of swsusp.  I installed 2.6.11 package but patch on suspend2 site is not very good.03:04
cazabamjames: transcode is probably your best bet, but it's a pain to install03:04
ernesto_seveas, yes... i have used unnoficial repositories... i changed my repositories list03:04
Wimpieis there an 2.6.11-xxx package ? and where can I find which packages for 2.6.11 are available ?03:04
Seveasernesto_, that has probably caused this bug to appear03:05
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ernesto_are ther a solution for it  ?03:05
cazabamjames: hmmm... according to the showshifter website it uses MJPEG and/or DIVX...03:05
Danarernesto_, file a bug report, use synaptic until it's updated with a fix :p03:05
cazabamjames: try mplayer - if that supports it, then transcode can use mplayer as a decoding filter :)03:05
ernesto_ok03:06
ThE__OnEi dont know what they call it, but once i saw a video of a wallpaper moving, any ideas on what it is called?03:06
SeveasDanar, it's NOTABUG, it's due to using unofficial repositories...03:06
Seveasernesto_, so better not file a bug :)03:06
DanarSeveas, woops. missed that03:06
topyliThE__OnE: "the naked lunch"03:06
jamescazabam: Thanks so much! I'll try mplayer now.03:06
Danarwhen did "NOTABUG" become a word? :p03:06
topyliDanar: once we stopped fixing them :)03:07
ernesto_Dana: once I started Synaptic how can i turn it off as you suggested ?03:07
Danar:O03:07
HrdwrBoBtopyli: that movie is ... bizarre03:07
Danarernesto_, turn what off?03:07
ThE__OnEthe naked lunch?03:07
topyliHrdwrBoB: sure is03:07
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topyliThE__OnE: oh, i'm referring to your "moving wallpaper" thing :)03:08
chxI have a APC SmartUPS , I start apcd  , it starts and after a few seconds it dies. no log is made.03:08
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ernesto_Danar, i think i didnt understand what you said....03:08
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Danarernesto_, which part?03:09
jamesHow do I install mplayer on Ubuntu? I couldn't find it with apt-cache or in the Synaptic Package Manager.03:09
ThE__OnEyuo think i was making this up?03:09
londonboi2k3its in the universe repo me thinks03:09
Danarjames, need the multiverse repository i think03:09
topyliThE__OnE: no. it's just i haven't seen anything like that.03:09
Seveasjames, you need to enable multiverse03:09
londonboi2k3or multiverse03:09
kong0when i install some software (azureus p2p client) i says pakage not found...i has worked b4...03:09
jamesDanar, where do I add that?03:09
londonboi2k3:)03:09
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kong0what could be wrong?03:09
Seveaskong0, azureus is not available in the ubuntu repositories03:10
Danarpaste.ubuntulinux.nl/3803:10
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kong0i was yesterday....03:10
Danarjames, ^ there's the lists to add to your sources.list03:10
londonboi2k3I know you guys dont like it BUT http://ubuntuguide.org/ for installing more software!03:10
x3jaAnyone got ubuntu to get updates through a MS ISA Server Web Proxy?03:10
ThE__OnEi will show you the link to the video when my friends wakes up03:10
jamesSeveas, how do I enable multiverse? I tried selecting each repository from the Settings dialog and then clicking OK. It seemed to add them. How do I get the multiverse one though?03:10
topyliThE__OnE: http://www.wallpaperbase.com/animated.shtml03:10
Seveasjames: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:11
Seveasjames: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3803:11
londonboi2k3James, look at the link i just posted, it will tell you03:11
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kong0its very weird cause it should be able to find azureus or else it wouldn't be posted on ubuntuguide...03:11
Seveaskong0, ubuntuguide is bad03:11
ernesto_Danar, you said  "ernesto_, might be better off using synaptic"03:11
ThE__OnEthat can be it topyli03:11
cazabamkong0: I installed azureus from the repository list in ubuntuguide last week03:11
Seveaskong0, and maybe azureus is in the backports...03:11
ThE__OnEi dunt know03:11
jamesSeveas and londonboi2k3: Many thanks!03:11
londonboi2k3I disagree seveas ;)03:11
Danarernesto_, yeah, it's the package manager. use it instead03:12
londonboi2k3welcome james03:12
x3jaAnyone got ubuntu to get updates through an authenticating MS ISA Server Web Proxy?  If so... please tell me how :S03:12
topyliThE__OnE: i doubt that works on gnome03:12
cazabamseveas: yes, it is indeed in the backports03:12
Danarernesto_, i told you where it is03:12
Seveasx3ja: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.03:12
Danarernesto_, in gnome, System > Administration > Synaptic03:12
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kong0no i dont think so because i downloaded it yesterday but i reformated 2day and now it cant find it...03:12
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Danarkong0, lemme get this straight, you installed something, reformatted, and now wondering where it went?03:13
x3jaSeveas: sorry, was trying to be a bit more explicit second time round so people wouldn't just reply "yes" or "no"...03:13
Danar*now you're03:13
cazabamkong0: hmmm... no, it's in backports universe03:13
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ernesto_Danar, ok. now it understood. thanks03:13
kong0LOL i dont know why but its my fault...03:13
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black13is anyone familer with xwrapper03:14
kong0I cant find ANY pakage...03:14
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_eXoDuSkong0: azureus is in backports03:14
kong0not mplayer azureus nothing03:14
londonboi2k3apt-get update maybe ;) if your repos are set up correct03:14
_eXoDuSkong0: mplayer is in multiverse03:14
cazabamkong0: in that case you're sources.list hasn't got backports in it :)03:14
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kong0i have nothing to update...03:14
cazabamkong0: get the sources from ubuntuguide, it's a start even if everyone hates it :)03:14
kong0how do i fix that then?03:15
_eXoDuSkong0: you have to add backports and multiverse to your sources03:15
Danarkong0, surely you can install some... you prolly just can't install stuff from the universe/multiverse repositories03:15
kong0prob...03:15
londonboi2k3what error do you get exactly?03:15
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kong0i remember installing universe multiverse but dont know how03:15
kong0changing the txt03:15
Danarin synaptic, click Settings > Repositories > Add > check universe & multiverse. reload03:16
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kong0ahh lame...how am i supposed to find out how i can get universe multiverse man?03:16
Danarkong0, i just told you how03:17
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Seveaskong0: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:17
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kong0danar u havent told me ANYthing...03:18
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Danar"in synaptic, click Settings > Repositories > Add > check universe & multiverse. reload"03:18
finlaylabswhats wrong with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?03:18
Danarkong0, or check the link Seveas gave03:19
RenZlo'03:19
bob2kong0: please don't ignore people helping you, two seperate people have told you how to fix it03:19
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ablysshere'a problem i ran into: I ./configured ; make ; make installed wine... but now synaptic is having a problems. Synaptic says there is a newer version for download, and after downloading syanpitc says it's installed, but when I open Terminal and type wine --version i get my old version03:19
Seveasablyss, then remove your older version...03:20
bob2ablyss: that's not a proble,, it just means you have your old wone in your path before the new one03:20
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Danarablyss, prolly installed to a different location. remove the old one03:20
bob2ablyss: get rid of the one you don't want03:20
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ablyssk03:20
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ThE__OnEwhere is the firefox folder located at?03:21
Danarwhich one?03:21
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ablyssi better unstall the synaptic version with synaptic to aviod any brokwn packages03:21
SeveasThE__OnE, dpkg -L mozilla-firefox03:21
_eXoDuSis gksu broken for anyone else? I have the same problem in sid which is funny03:22
kong0lol that guide was strange03:22
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ThE__OnEwhere is the firefox plugins folder located at?03:22
ThE__OnEsrry03:22
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chrissturmhow would i use imagemagick to generate thunbnails for a directory full of jpgs?03:22
DanarThE__OnE, dpkg -L mozilla-firefox | grep -i plugin03:22
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DanarThE__OnE, prolly /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins03:23
kong0can u give me the site again?03:23
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kong0the one who gave it to me03:23
londonboi2k3scroll up03:23
ThE__OnEya03:23
ThE__OnEthx03:23
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kong0i just logge din03:24
Danarhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:24
jamesWhat's the difference between mplayer-586, mplayer-k6 and mplayer-custom?03:24
u19809what is the best 'process' to compile a kernel using ubuntu packages ?03:24
cazabamchrissturm: for name in *.jpg; do convert $f -scale 100x100 ${f/.jpg/_thumb.jpg}; done03:24
kong0well03:24
bob2u19809: not doing it at all, if at all possible03:24
Di42lo`What is the Terminal service at windows...in linux ?03:24
knuckswhats the command to shutdown the pc on ubuntu?03:24
londonboi2k3optimised for you type of processor03:24
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bob2u19809: if you really need to, use make-kpkg03:24
bob2knucks: shutdown -h now03:24
londonboi2k3if you have a pentium use 58603:24
u19809bob2 : yes but I need swsusp03:24
knucksi want to set a timer03:24
cazabamchrissturm: where 100x100 replaced with dimensions you really want - it will maintain aspect, don't worry about that :)03:24
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bob2Di42lo`: X is natively a network protocol03:24
kong0what was the site for man of universe multiverse!?03:24
bob2u19809: which the ubuntu kernels include03:25
chrissturmcazabam: thx a lot03:25
knucksis it possible to shutdown my pc in 2 hrs after i leave today03:25
knucksso at like 12pm03:25
cazabamchrissturm: k03:25
finlaylabson "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" I get "xserver-xorg is not installed". This aint normal right?03:25
bob2knucks: man shutdown, it explains how03:25
justincazabam: name isn't the same thing as f03:25
Di42lo`bob2: do you know of any program ?03:25
u19809bob2 : sure ?03:25
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bob2finlaylabs: are you on warty?03:25
bob2Di42lo`: I don't know what your question is03:25
londonboi2k3did you get that james?03:25
bob2u19809: yes03:25
bob2u19809: in hoary, anyway03:25
Danarkong0, why do you consistently ignore me?03:25
kong0ignored 100%03:25
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jameslondonboi2k3, Yes thanks03:25
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finlaylabsbob2:no, hoary.03:25
Di42lo`bob2: im looking for "terminal service client" for linux03:25
spanglesontoastthere a way of getting amiga running on ubuntu?03:25
kong0danar u havent even written to me ffs03:25
jameslondonboi2k3: I have an Athlon XP-M processor. Which should I choose?03:26
bob2kong0: if you don't stop being so obnoxious, you will be removed03:26
knucksthx03:26
u19809bob2 : how can I get it to work using hoary ?03:26
bob2Di42lo`: rdesktop, iirc03:26
Danarkong0, point made. i have indeed.03:26
Akramehi all , please i need help ,i've installed a hoary base system , and i want to install X , so i type apt-get install xserver-xorg , but X is still not install , because i don't have any startx on my /etc/X1103:26
kong0wth is this!? im going windoes03:26
finlaylabsbob2: but it is a slower, lower-memory machine03:26
Danarkong0 i just logge din03:26
DanarDanar http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:26
bob2finlaylabs: then you should have x.org, yes03:26
londonboi2k3hmm, im not 100& certain, I guess it would be the K6.03:26
spanglesontoastthere a way of getting amiga running on ubuntu?03:26
jameslondonboi2k3: Okay thanks. What's the "custom" one for?03:26
londonboi2k3but i have never used athlon03:26
cazabamkong0 is not a happy bunny :-/03:26
bob2u19809: sudo /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh03:26
londonboi2k3never used it im afraid :)03:27
Danarcazabam, that's is own fault03:27
Akramehi all , please i need help ,i've installed a hoary base system , and i want to install X , so i type apt-get install xserver-xorg , but X is still not install , because i don't have any startx on my /etc/X1103:27
Danar*his03:27
bob2Akrame: so, install ubuntu-desktop03:27
spanglesontoastanyone know much about amiga?03:27
cazabamdanar: yep, you've got that right ...03:27
jameslondonboi2k3: Just an Intel guy, huh?03:27
bob2spanglesontoast: try #amiga or such03:27
ernesto_Danar and Seveas: i was looking for an unofficial package installed that could have something to the bug... but i could not find nothing obvious...03:27
cazabamdanar: straaaange...03:27
finlaylabsbob2: this is my first ubuntu try. Is there a command using apt-get or whatever to install xserver-xorg?03:27
londonboi2k3yep thats me, forced, not by choice :(03:27
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bob2finlaylabs: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg03:28
jameslondonboi2k3: How so?03:28
_eXoDuSbob2: apt-get install x-window-system03:28
Danarernesto_, did you remove unofficial repositories?03:28
londonboi2k3It was a xmas gift03:28
_eXoDuSerr03:28
_eXoDuSbob2: not for you :p03:28
bob2finlaylabs: I can't imagine how you could end up with out it, tho, unless you did somehting silly like use the expert install mode03:28
ernesto_Danar4: no03:28
_eXoDuSfinlaylabs: apt-get install x-window-system03:28
londonboi2k3so i did not get to choose! can you imagine an xmas gift at 24 :)03:28
Akramebob2 , no it will install gnome03:28
londonboi2k3my old pc died on mee03:28
jameslondonboi2k3: Wow!03:28
Akrameand i don't want gnome03:28
Danarernesto_, after that, reload the package info, and reinstall pygtk03:28
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DanarAkrame, so use kubuntu03:28
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bob2Akrame: so...03:28
jameslondonboi2k3: With your next PC, will you go AMD or Intel?03:28
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Akramei want enlighetement03:29
bob2haha03:29
londonboi2k3I want an AMD 64 ;)03:29
jameslondonboi2k3: I figured out that it can't be the K6 version because Athlon processors are seventh-generation.03:29
Kamping_Kaiserlol03:29
_eXoDuSAkrame: at least you could learn how to spell it03:29
peteanyone using ubuntu on a G4 powerbook?03:29
londonboi2k3prob in a few months time03:29
jameslondonboi2k3: Good choice ;)03:29
londonboi2k3is there not a K7 there03:29
petei've got sound working but it's way low03:29
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DanarAkrame, so apt-get install enlightenment03:29
jamesNo but they stopped using the K(number) format when it got to Athlons03:29
Kamping_Kaiserakrame, do a custom install?03:29
DanarAkrame, or meditate :p03:29
londonboi2k3so you only have the chocice of the 3? K6 586 and custom?03:30
Danarlondonboi2k3, there's more than that03:30
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jamesDanar: Is there? Where?03:30
jamesDanar: I have all the extra repositories added.03:30
ThE__OnEmojojojo@BaD:~$ cd ~/desktop03:30
ThE__OnEbash: cd: /home/mojojojo/desktop: No such file or directory03:30
londonboi2k3I thought there should be, try apt-get install mplayer-k7 i think03:30
ThE__OnEwhy does it say that?03:30
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londonboi2k3its been ages since i install mplayer03:31
Danarmplayer-386, mplayer-586, mplayer-686, mplayer-custom, mplayer-k6, mplayer-k7, mplayer-nogui03:31
jamesThE__OnE: the desktop folder is capitalized, i.e. Desktop03:31
ThE__OnEoh03:31
Danarjames, apparently not, cause those are showing for me03:31
jamesDanar: okay thanks03:31
chrissturmcazabam: i now get this: convert: option requires an argument `-scale'.03:31
finlaylabsbob2, _eXoDuS: long story. messy install. think I will have to run it again :-\03:31
jamesThE))OnE: You're not mOjOjOjO are you?03:31
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_eXoDuSfinlaylabs: apt-get install x-window-system should give you what you want though, no need to reinstall03:32
Danarjames, you know, there's tab-completion...03:32
_eXoDuSfinlaylabs: also install ubuntu-desktop, it will install most of the desktop stuff you need03:32
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jamesDanar: Tab completion in what?03:32
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londonboi2k3in the command line03:32
jamesDanar, oh thanks!03:32
Danarjames, in irc. type the first few chars of a name, and hit TAB03:32
Danarnp03:33
jamesyeah similar to Bash03:33
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jamesI < linux03:33
ThE__OnEjames, why?03:33
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jamesbecause are you from platform2?03:33
Danaryou are less than linux? :p03:33
jamesLOL thanks Danar03:33
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Danarnp03:33
jamesbut I'm more than Winblows03:33
Danarhehe03:33
finlaylabs_eXoDuS: it would appear my apt-get also has a problem. apt-get update doesnt solve it either. Cant find packages.03:33
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finlaylabs_eXoDuS: did I mention veeeery messy?03:34
_eXoDuSfinlaylabs: is your /etc/apt/sources.list empty?03:34
Danarfinlaylabs, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:34
_eXoDuSDanar: he's trying to install xorg, don't need additional ones for that ;)03:34
Danaroh03:34
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dockaneanybody inhere with experience with vuescan (commercial closed source scan softrware, probably the best for linux) ?03:34
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Danari just saw he said apt-get can't find packages...03:35
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jamesDanar, I get this: "mplayer-k7 - transitional dummy package which can be safely removed". What does that mean?03:35
ernesto_Danar: OK... i still have the original repositories file03:35
djpcantus vs easytag?03:35
cazabamchrissturm: sorry, popped away for a second... I'll just check...03:35
Danarjames, some packages get renamed. in order for the update to go through they add packages like that03:35
_eXoDuSjames: that means it's no use :)03:35
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Danarjames, so when people update from the old package, it gets turned into the new one03:36
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cazabamchrissturm: sorry, use mogrify rather than convert03:36
Danarjames, so if you have it installed, you can remove it03:36
jamesDanar, no I didn't install it -- I'm not _that_ silly. ;)03:36
james_eXoDuS, thanks :)03:37
jamesDanar, so basically which is my best choice for installing mplayer?03:37
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chrissturmcazabam, mogrify: missing an image filename `75x75'.03:38
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Danarjames, what's your architecture?03:38
finlaylabsDanar _eXoDuS: thanks for the ideas. List is empty. will try populate it (at least with the 'additional packages" from the cd!!!)03:38
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Danarjames, pentium? AMD?03:39
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cazabamchrissturm: weird - do any of your images have spaces in the filename?03:41
_eXoDuSfinlaylabs: grab the list from the guide, complete03:41
jameyDanar, I have an AMD Athlon XP-M processor.03:41
chrissturmcazabam, nope, i get this error for every filename03:41
jameyDanar, so I should choose K7, right?03:41
jameyDanar, sorry I meant K6. :)03:42
Danari think so, yes03:42
jameyOkay thanks03:42
Danarnot sure what mplayer-custom is though...03:42
james__hrm, me either03:42
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cazabamchrissturm: hmm.. bear with me a sec...03:43
bimzalabimhai03:44
bimzalabimhai03:44
ernesto_Danar: can you tell me the sudo commands to reload the package info and reinstall pygtk ?03:44
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Danarernesto_, you can just use synaptic...03:44
ernesto_ok03:44
Danarernesto_, or, 'man apt-get' ;)03:45
ernesto_ok i  will try it03:45
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cazabamchrissturm: Looks like I was right the first time ... use convert with the scale option. not sure why it didn't work for you03:46
cazabamchrissturm: I just ran the original command line I sent and it seems to work fine for me03:46
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cazabamchrissturm: hehe, I just noticed what I did - my sincere apologies - change 'for name in' to 'for f in' and it will work fine... sorry :(03:50
jameyI've got mplayer to play my ShowShifter files (yay) but they have major artificacting/garbled-ness. Anyone know how I remedy this?03:50
cazabamchrissturm: I need to go to sleep, I htink - deprivation is not good for the mental syntax checker!03:50
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dballesterhi to all03:52
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znhhi to dballester03:53
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Danaranyone know why i can't get the time right?03:55
jameyDanar, do you know how I can get my ShowShifter files to play correctly?03:55
Danari have the right time zone...03:55
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jameyyou can sync it with ntp.ubuntuserver.org03:56
Danarjamey, dunno what ShowShifter files are...03:56
mindspindanar which one?03:56
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jameywell they play properly03:56
jameyalmost... just some artificating03:56
Danarmindspin, which time zone? the right one :p03:56
jamey*artifacting03:56
mindspinhaha03:56
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mindspinok03:56
Danarjamey, dunno. maybe drivers, maybe corrupt download, dunno03:57
trashmanhiall03:57
trashmanmy audio drivers doesnt work ,so they doesnt syncronize with my video.Im usin alsa.Are there other drivers that could work 03:57
Danari synchronize it with an ntp server, but it displays the wrong time always03:57
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mindspindanar again, which timezone?03:58
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Danarmindspin, 1 - why's it matter? 2 - toronto03:58
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avinoamI have a problem- power management seems to be causing my cable internet connection to crash- i disabled acpi to no avail04:00
Danari can synch it with nptdate even, but it's displaying the time from the wrong time zone04:00
jameyDanar, it's not a download -- I recorded it off a FreeView channel yesterday.04:00
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Danarjamey, oh. could be bad sectors on your HDD04:00
ubuntu_hello everyone04:00
jameyDanar, go System -> Administration -> Time and Date04:00
jameythen click "Synchronise Now"04:00
whittiHow can you actually kill x, rather than just leave it?04:00
mindspinhere in germany the right timezone should be gmt plus2 but it only shows correct time if you set it to gmt -2 therefore04:00
jameywhitti, try "sudo killall [name of service] "04:00
Danaror bad codecs...04:00
whittijamey: sure04:00
u19809xhibernate works but when I close the lid the hibernation does not trigger ? how can I set it up ?04:00
jameyor you can stop it via: /etc/init.d/gdm stop04:00
jameybut I think you may need to sudo that command04:00
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whittisure04:00
kong0this time i got a good question:04:00
Danarcould be anything04:00
jameyDanar, damn because I really wanted it to work. :/04:01
Danartry a different player? reinstall codecs? check your drivers?04:01
kong0when im trying this /etc/apt/sources.list it says im not authorised...04:01
Danarjamey, yeah, that's where i set the time zone04:01
mindspinkongO try it with sudo04:01
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kong0i doid04:02
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kong0that wasnt a valid command04:02
Danarkong0, what wasn't/04:02
avinoamkong0 use gedit04:02
znhErr.. my wireless conflicts with my usb-storage.. (IRQ #11), is it possible to deactivate the usb-storage?04:02
mindspinsudo "editor of yourchoice" /etc/apt/sources.list04:02
avinoamcan someone help me?04:03
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znhavinoam: if you tell us the problem, we might04:03
jameyDanar, did the time synchronization work though?04:03
bob2avinoam: I really doubt that is your issue04:03
ubuntu_what's your matter?04:03
avinoam I have a problem- power management seems to be causing my cable internet connection to crash- i disabled acpi to no avail04:03
Danarjamey, yeah, it works fine, but still displays the wrong time04:03
avinoamwell then i don'[t know what04:03
kong0what do you mean gedit? gedit /etc/apt/sources.list?04:03
mindspingedit is the editor04:03
avinoami think power management, while shutting off the screen, also closes power to ethernet04:04
jameyDanar, I see. Maybe there's an offset setting somewhere?04:04
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znhavinoam: mostly it would, maybe you can deactivate it in the bios04:04
avinoambut i'm open to other suggestions04:04
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avinoamznh, it is fine in windows04:04
kong0ok gedit worked thx :d04:04
kong0D04:04
znhwindows may not listen to the bios :)04:05
kong0but what am i to change it into....04:05
avinoamwhere in the bios?04:05
mindspinkong0 what do you want to do?04:05
znhavinoam: what kind of bios have you got?04:05
avinoama0604:06
znherr..04:06
avinoamyou prob. want more information than that04:06
kong0i need to fix my universe multiverse so i can install different files04:06
znhI mean.. something like "Award Bios", or "American Systems"04:06
mindspinso remove the # before deb ... universe04:06
mindspinand save the file04:07
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mindspinit works only if you started gedit with sudo gedit...04:07
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bob2kong0: maybe you should try #ubuntu-se if you have such trouble understanding the help here04:08
kong0haha well ill just restart i t then but i still need to know exactly what to type once in it04:08
avinoamznh i think it's proprietary dell04:08
kong0bob maybe u could shut up cuz i havent seen u even trying04:08
kong0mormon :P04:08
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mindspinkong0 so remove the # before deb ... universe04:08
kong0ok on all?04:09
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znhavinoam: hmz.. don't know how there bios look like, here is it called "Power Management"04:09
mindspinno on universe and multiverse04:09
avinoami'll check it out04:09
avinoamand then i'll come back04:09
znhok :)04:10
ivokseh04:10
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ivoksanyone wants acroread7 for hoary?04:10
avinoamby the way is acpi the best power management to use?04:10
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mindspinkong0 read the file and try to get how it works its very simple, you just have to read abit04:10
avinoamI've heard another one might be better?04:10
ivoksevince is better04:10
Danari just read through a page that's supposed to tell you how to configure the time zone from the command line... didn't work04:10
ivoksbut, still...04:10
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kong0i removed the # on all universe multiverse lines04:11
kong0should it work now?04:11
avinoamwhat is evince?04:11
mindspintry it04:11
Danarkong0, did you save? :p04:11
kong0yes :D04:11
ivoksavinoam: gnome pdf viewer... very very good one04:11
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kcburyshakercan someone tell me what file or files i need to get to play .avi files with totem movie player?04:11
avinoamivoks power managment!!04:11
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Danar!codecs04:11
ubotuI guess codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats04:11
Danarkcburyshaker, ^04:12
kong0i couldnt find any good readmes on google im afraid...so i had to ask you all04:12
kcburyshakertype that into terminal?04:12
Danarkcburyshaker, ?! go to the page!04:12
kong0sudo apt-get install totem-xine04:12
bob2kong0: that file explains exactly how to edit it04:12
kcburyshakerok04:12
kong0sudo apt-get install w32codecs04:12
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mindspin"/etc/apt/sources.list" is kinda tselfexplaining04:12
kong0bob what file did you say?04:13
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kcburyshakerim a 2 day old noob   i dont know my way around linux yet04:13
Thanatermesisany liveCD developer please ?04:13
bob2Thanatermesis: very unlikely to be any here04:13
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Danarkcburyshaker, yeh, but it's common sense. i gave you a site.. obviously you should visit it.04:13
bob2Thanatermesis: if you want help customising it, try asking on the ubuntu-devel mailing list04:13
ThE__OnEis there any program that makes ubuntu load a differnt wallpaper everytime it boots?04:13
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kcburyshakerdanar   im there now   thanks04:14
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Danarkcburyshaker, er, unless you didn't realize by '^' i was pointing to the line above04:14
Thanatermesisno customizing, only like to need to ask a little question of the "init scripts"04:14
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bob2Thanatermesis: then just ask here04:14
kong0ohh bob i get what file u meant however i couldnt even get in that file i used this command /etc/apt/sources.list and i got this error message: acess denied (or sumthin)04:14
kcburyshakerdanar   i see it  thank you   and also thanks for making a noob feel welcome   lay off me please04:14
Thanatermesisok04:14
mindspinit works only if you started gedit with sudo gedit...04:15
Danarkcburyshaker, ? "thanks for making a noob feel welcome" seems to conflict with "lay off me please"04:15
Thanatermesisany person understand how to works the "x-refresh" autodetection in liveCD mode ? this is a work of xorg or an script from init scripts ?04:15
kong0and i have a comment to all "leets" here...perhaps if u guys wasnt so cynical u wouldn't have to explain stuff 10 times04:15
zythThanatermesis, your best bet is probably the ubuntu-devel mailing list for that kind of thing.04:15
Thanatermesishummm... I need to subscribe? :/04:16
zythkong0, man, if you'd read the documentation, it'd be easier for you.04:16
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mindspinkong0 and if you read better you'll have more success04:16
refuze2loozei think there's a wiki about enabling multiverse04:16
kong0the help i needed was to get the readme04:16
znhzyth: nice word chose04:16
cefjdub: re: sounder - THANK YOU! *sigh*04:16
mindspinsudo "editor of yourchoice" /etc/apt/sources.list04:16
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mindspinit works only if you started gedit with sudo gedit...04:16
Danarkong0, he said documentation, meaning man files. not the website you're reading04:17
kong0maybe i didnt exactly put that up front but i needed to get to the list and all i got was edespise04:17
mindspinkong0 read the file and try to get how it works its very simple, you just have to read abit04:17
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ThE__OnEis there any program that makes ubuntu load a differnt wallpaper everytime it boots?04:17
Thanatermesiswhat are the devel-list mail?04:17
mindspinso remove the # before deb ... universe04:17
kong0i meant readme as in the documentetion i was supposed to read04:17
kong0i come from windoes u know04:17
dabiis there any command i can do to unmount/open cdrom from console?04:17
bob2kong0: no, you need to get a better attitude.  3 people pointed you at the wiki before you actually read it, and all the while you claimed no one was helping you04:17
zythThE__OnE, google for 'gnome wallpaper changer' or something?04:17
bob2Thanatermesis: ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com04:17
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Thanatermesisthx04:18
Danarkong0, much of the stuff you'd need to read is in the man files. 'man command'. the rest you can usually find through google04:18
znhThE__OnE: maybe you can write some application on your own for that04:18
kong0mindspin ive already done it thx for your help however i was trying to lay certain pikes to bob2 wich obviously havent got anything of em04:18
Funraiserwhat's the app in linux to surf through anonymous proxies?04:18
zythor a shell script that runs at boot04:18
znhFunraiser: you can define a proxy server in firefox :)04:18
DanarFunraiser, tor w/ privoxy04:18
bob2kong0: you're not even making sense now, please just drop it04:18
zythFunraiser, anon-proxy, in synaptic04:18
Funraiserthanks!04:19
mindspinbtw. kong0 btw. whats so important in wincodecs they suck04:19
zythmindspin, well, unless you want to watch wmv video...04:19
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mindspinnever needed to ;-)04:19
avinoamno good04:19
avinoammy bios doesn't have many power management options04:19
Danarmindspin, i have... :/04:19
Danarsome people have no consideration :p04:20
kong0alright im dropping everything im off to see if i screwed up while i change the sources.list04:20
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avinoamdamn04:21
znhkong0: calm down.. it's okay.. just be calm04:21
avinoamIn case you don't remember, my cable internet connection crashes after i leave the computer for a while04:21
avinoamUbuntu hoary04:21
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avinoamDell Inspiron 1150 laptop04:21
kong0lol znh i wasnt upset04:21
znhavinoam: and did you find anything in the bios?04:21
avinoamznh no there is nothing there04:22
kong0but now i am im afraid :P it didnt work ahaha04:22
avinoamznh i checked all the pages04:22
znhkong0: what is the problem :)?04:22
znhavinoam: hmz.. I don't know were ubuntu is doing the power management..04:22
kong0couldnt find package04:23
avinoamdoes anyone here know where ubuntu is doing power management?04:23
znhkong0: what package?04:23
kong0im trying to install azureus04:23
kong0from ubuntuguide04:23
znhkong0: azureus hmm..04:23
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avinoamkong0 you need to install java first04:23
dabican i open cd drive with some command?04:24
kong0that shouldnt effect the package loss04:24
zyth!java04:24
uboturumour has it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java04:24
kong0it still cant find anypackage04:24
refuze2loozeavinoam: do you connect through vnc?04:24
avinoamno04:24
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znhkong0: why don't you compile it at yourself :)?04:24
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znhkong0: If it's java you don't even have to04:24
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kong0ehmm im not following you here...04:25
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rootjoin #04:26
avinoamdoes anyone know where ubuntu does power management?04:26
znhkong0: you can manualy download azureus from there homepage (after installing Java)04:26
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Myrttibad idea to be on the net as root04:26
MyrttiBad Idea (tm)04:26
znh:P04:26
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znhwoot.. He had a ip of someone with a dedicated connection such as highspeed 10mbit :D04:27
znhand then even login with root.. scary xD04:27
kong0well i still want universe multiverse (wich i believe is the fault for the problem)04:27
fnoyanhi,how can i learn supported languages by ubuntu? or from where.!!04:27
zythavinoam, try changing your boot line to include acpi=off04:27
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znhfnoyan: what do you mean? programming?04:28
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refuze2loozeavinoam, is it because power management is turning your HD off?04:28
askinifcan't get printer to work and can't seem to find doumentation, can someone help a novice04:28
zythavinoam, that'll default back to APM.  Might work better for you04:28
mindspinkong0 open /etc/apt/sources.list with sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources/list04:28
avinoamzyth i've tried it04:28
fnoyanno,english,french...etc.and also all the libc libraries are included?04:28
avinoamrefuse2looze no my HD doesn't turn off04:28
zythavinoam, have you tried turning APM off too?04:28
avinoamzyth no04:29
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avinoamand with good reason, because i need power management04:29
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zythavinoam, why?04:29
veronicaI have 3 drives.....the OS on one and /home on another....i wanted to raid the /home drive eith the 3rd drive......does it have to be mountes?04:29
veronicamounted?04:29
kong0done04:29
avinoambecause i'm on a laptop04:29
zythavinoam, so am I, I don't use it.04:29
kong0mindspin done04:29
zythI'm not afraid of booting! :)04:29
fnoyanany answer pls....04:29
avinoamzyth then how do you know how much power the battery has?04:29
zythlol04:29
veronicasoftware raid104:29
mindspinkong0 read the file and remove the # before the lines deb http universe..04:30
zythavinoam, I don't care? I runs out when it runs out? lol  My way probably won't work for you though.04:30
mindspinand multiverse04:30
askinifhardware help anyone!!04:30
zythI use AC power 99% of the time04:30
mindspinread it and guess by yerself what to do its really self explaining04:30
zythavinoam, one thing; have you tried some other connection besides your home one, and seen if it drops link on you too?04:31
mindspinafter you edited it save the files and run sudo apt-get update04:31
avinoamzyth no04:31
avinoamzyth but windows worked fine with it04:31
zythavinoam, I'd do that, to eliminate your connection as the cause of the issue04:31
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zythyour ISP might time out your DHCP lease if you're idle or something weird.04:32
askinifprinter help04:32
avinoamzyth i have a static IP04:33
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zythI'd check another connection anyways, but it's your call.04:33
avinoami see that acpi shuts down mysql but i imagine that isn't related?04:33
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mindspinon my thinkpad 600 acpi was the reason for weird effects04:34
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Shuflahello :) where's guide to make splitted debs? do i _have_ to use official debian developers manual?(which is man like :()04:35
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kong0do you get hacked on linux?04:35
avinoamwait i think i found the problem04:35
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avinoamcan i paste code here?04:35
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zythuse paste.ubuntulinux.nl04:36
mindspinno04:36
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jameykong0, no you don't get hacked unless you have open ports on your system04:36
kong0hmm i might have open ports04:36
jameykong0, do a port scan of 127.0.0.1 to check what's open04:36
zythunless you use a router04:36
zythlol04:36
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jameykong0, Applications -> System Tools -> Network Tools04:36
jameyzyth, yeah04:36
kong0ok thx04:36
Shuflakong0: or use lsof (lsof -ni4 and lsof -ni6)04:37
jameykong0, then choose "Port Scan", type "127.0.0.1" (no quote) and click Scan04:37
avinoamOK i pasted check it out04:37
zythwhat's the url avinoam ?04:37
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dockanethere is a noralgic point where a decision for or against linux in  has to be made at my workplace: i used to scan with an espon perfection 3200 slidefilms. (mounted and unmounted diapositeves).04:37
avinoamhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/13904:37
avinoamI think that is the problem04:37
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zythavinoam, it looks like a standard part of the stuff to go into sleep-mode04:38
avinoamzyth yes it shuts off network interfaces04:39
avinoamwhich would include my cable modem connection04:39
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zythavinoam, so you need to figure out how to have your notebook not enter sleep mode.  Have you checked google for how to config acpi?04:39
avinoamzyth or i could just comment out those lines no?04:39
SirMudhi, i would like to know how to prepare my brand new hd so linux sees it04:39
avinoamsirmud you need to format it04:40
zythavinoam, it'll still goto sleep, I think.04:40
zythavinoam, just not nicely.04:40
avinoamzyth let it go to sleep, just so it doesn't shut off ethernet04:40
cjsis there a hoary unstable .deb repos with newer packages in it? looking specifically for a newer ipw220004:40
zythavinoam, if your HD goes to sleep, and your system... what will it matter if your nic is up?04:40
SirMudyea, whats the partition prog though, im gonna multiboot it to hell04:40
zythavinoam, it won't stay up.  No os will be 'running' for it to communicate with04:41
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avinoamah i see04:41
avinoamzyth, at least i know that that is definitely my problem04:41
dockanenow i am finding myself with iscan, vuescan and xsane here: none of this scanning tools is able to detect the format of diapositives in transparency mode (with the 4 dia mask thats not a real problem i can crop manually but with the stripe mask its awfull to cut each dia and scan) ... thats pretty ugly ? anybody out there with an idea ?04:41
mindspinSirMud qtparted?04:41
zythavinoam, you may wind up needing to compile a custom kernel... :/04:42
mindspindockane that sounds very special, try the newsgroup04:42
SirMudis that installed with the base system or do i need to get it?04:42
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zythavinoam, and being selective about which acpi functions you allow04:42
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avinoamzyth, i have no freaking idea how to do that04:42
Chacalhey04:42
zythavinoam, but first, google for your notebook model and linux acpi and see if anyone else has been through this yet04:42
dockanemindspin, i will04:43
Chacalquick question: where is located the login splash image?04:43
avinoamzyth i've seen people claim that suspend and hibernate do not work04:43
mindspinSirMud cfdisk from shell?04:43
zythavinoam, then I'd guess they probably don't.  You are probably better off with acpi=off and just using APM04:44
avinoamzyth i've tried that04:44
mindspinyep04:44
mindspinthat would be my guess too04:44
Chacalanyone?04:45
avinoamzyth how to shut off APM as well?04:45
avinoamAPM=off?04:45
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^thehatsrule^or noapm?04:45
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kong0what does IPP ?04:45
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mindspininternet printing protocol04:46
kong0ok so for the printer04:46
thoreauputickong0: network printing04:46
avinoamzyth ??04:46
kong0aight thx04:46
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nightswimdoes someone know how I can tell the X.org on ubuntu to use the windows key as a modifier like alt?04:47
Chacalthe login background image, where is it?04:47
jameythoreauputic: what type of network printing is IPP for?04:47
nightswimit's something in /etc/X11/xkbd, but I forgot04:47
thoreauputickong0: scanning 127.0.0.1 is misleading if you have a network04:47
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jameynightswim: try keyboard or keyboard shortcuts in the system menu04:47
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mindspin;-)04:47
jameythoereauputic: why's that?04:47
thoreauputicjamey: IPP can be used on a LAN as well04:47
jamey(scanning 127.0.0.1 misleading)04:47
slyback =D04:47
zythavinoam, yeah apm=off acpi=off in your kernel bootline04:47
jameythoreauputic, but I mean is it used just for Linux printing or also for Samba?04:48
avinoamzyth i'll make another entry in grub for travel mode which allows acpi04:48
jameyand is it accessible outside of the LAN?04:48
kong0thorepatic: how so?04:48
avinoamzyth when i don't need cable modem04:48
thoreauputicjamey: because if you run NFS, IPP etc on your LAN the scan will show those ports open04:48
nightswimjamey: no, if I go there it doesnt interpret that key as a modifier04:48
nightswimbut as a normal key04:48
jameyhmm sorry04:48
zythavinoam, *nod*04:48
jameythoreauputic, but it is accessible outside of the LAN?04:48
thoreauputicyou need someone to nmap you from th enet04:48
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jameythoreauputic, okay I see... nmap always seems slooow to me04:49
thoreauputicjamey: not if the interface is different and your iptables are right04:49
kong0well im off cyall04:49
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mindspinnessus shows a little more than nmap04:49
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jameythoreauputic, can I PM you?04:50
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skywaterhello. is it possible for ubuntu to connect to a windows p2p network?04:50
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mindspinsamba haha04:51
TiMiDoskywater, samba04:51
TiMiDoor gnome04:51
thoreauputicjamey: sorry I'm about to sign off - 1 am here :)04:51
Hylas_what's the module called to apt-get audio codec mpeg layer 2/3?04:51
jameythoreauputic, ok no problem :)04:52
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microhaxoguys, i dloaded a new kernel patch : 2.6.12 how do i install it?04:54
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TiMiDomicrohaxo, read the README or INSTALL04:55
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microhaxodoesnt come with one04:57
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microhaxopatch-2.6.12.bz204:57
microhaxojust comes with htis04:57
microhaxopatch-2.6.1204:57
microhaxoseems like a txt based file?04:57
TiMiDowhat extension is it?04:58
Chacalexit04:58
microhaxodoesnt have one?04:58
cazabammicrohaxo: it sounds like a normal diff - what is the first line?04:58
microhaxohrm ill open it in txt editor04:59
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microhaxoyea04:59
microhaxodiff04:59
slymicrohaxo you still here whining ?04:59
microhaxono04:59
microhaxoits a diff04:59
microhaxohow would i install this?04:59
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cazabammicrohaxo: you'll need to show me the first line - it's all relative to the path05:00
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microhaxok05:00
microhaxohrm05:00
slycorrect me if im wrong but this morning befor i went out you was complaining about linux........... and wanting to reinstall windows........ now you want to install kernal patchs ?05:00
microhaxodiff --git a/CREDITS b/CREDITS05:00
microhaxo--- a/CREDITS05:00
microhaxo+++ b/CREDITS05:00
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microhaxosly05:00
microhaxostay out of it05:00
TiMiDolol05:00
slybut is that not correct05:01
Zukerohello05:01
Zukeroi have a problem with ssh05:01
slyyou was whineing about all sorts of things from ati surport to windows never crashs05:01
microhaxono it isnt, i want windows, but am i going to get it any time soon05:01
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TiMiDoZukero, what is it?05:01
cazabammicrohaxo: hmmm... looks like it was made in the source directory05:01
Zukerohow can i make my system accept ssh connection05:01
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microhaxothats bad huh cazabam05:01
TiMiDoZukero, dpkg-reconfigure sshd05:01
cazabammicrohaxo: no, not really05:01
Black-whIsphey whats the standart root password???05:01
mindspinZukero sudo apt-get install ssh-server05:01
microhaxo:D then how can i run this biach05:01
cazabammicrohaxo: make sure you have a backup of your kernel source before applying it!05:02
microhaxoerr05:02
TiMiDoBlack-whIsp, huh?05:02
microhaxohow do i do that05:02
microhaxolol05:02
cazabammicrohaxo: then run: patch -p0 < patch-2.6.105:02
slyBlack-whIsp ..... your root pass3word on ubuntu is the password for the 1st account you setup05:02
Black-whIspTiMiDo: it didnt ask me to make a root password05:02
cazabammicrohaxo: from inside the source directory05:02
microhaxok05:02
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microhaxocazabam05:02
microhaxothis was bziped05:02
TiMiDoBlack-whIsp, do su and then do passwd and set up a password05:02
cazabamyup05:02
Black-whIspsly: nope.. have tryed that. :)05:02
microhaxoi didnt compile it05:02
cazabamwhat was?05:03
microhaxothe kernel, i didnt compile it05:03
microhaxoi dloaded it05:03
microhaxoso?05:03
microhaxodo i just cd to home05:03
microhaxoand run that05:03
cazabamyou need the kernel source before you can apply that patch05:03
microhaxolol05:03
microhaxok05:03
microhaxohrm05:03
cazabambinary patches come in the form of modules05:03
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cazabamthat can be built against the kernel headers05:03
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cazabamthis actually modifies the kernel source05:03
microhaxowhere is it cazabam?05:03
microhaxohttp://www.kernel.org/05:03
refuze2loozei get Segmentation Fault sometimes in firefox.. would it help maybe if i compile it from source?05:03
cazabamyou can get it in the repos05:03
cazabamcan't remember off hand - 2 secs05:04
microhaxonot mine05:04
microhaxolol05:04
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justinBlack-whIsp: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+root+password05:04
cazabammicrohaxo: it's linux-source-2.6.xxxx where xxxx is the version you want05:05
cazabamjust apt-get linux-source to get latest, I think05:05
microhaxoi only have .1105:05
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cazabamok05:05
microhaxoin package manager05:05
cazabamalso will need make-kpkg to build the new kernel binary package05:05
cazabamthere's a few threads/howtos on ubuntuforums05:06
microhaxok05:06
microhaxothanks05:06
cazabamno probs05:06
Zukerothanks guys05:06
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TiMiDonp zuj05:06
TiMiDo*Zukero05:06
Black-whIspjustin: THX05:08
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SS2hello @ all :)05:10
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SS2keiner da?05:11
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micro god dammit cant anything go RIGHT AT ALL! i install new headers05:11
micronow tuxracer runs at a nifty 3 fps05:11
microY Q# GTHQWFA!!!~$05:11
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mindspinenglish SS2 ;-)05:12
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Seveasmicro, I thought we have been polite enough05:13
Seveasand that I have warned you several times05:13
Seveasnow get the hell out05:13
refuze2loozehow do i start firefox with gdb?05:13
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SS2was english???05:14
SS2achso05:14
SS2kann auch deutsch05:14
mindspingenau05:14
SS2oder kannst du kein englisch?05:14
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SS2oh oops im in the wrong room, hehehe05:14
SeveasSS2, fuer, deutschsprachige hilfe, #ubuntu-de bitte05:14
Benjamin_Lwie, ubuntu pltzlich deutsch ? ^^05:14
SeveasBenjamin_L, nein :)05:15
Benjamin_L^^05:15
Seveasrefuze2looze, `gdb mozilla-firefox`05:15
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Seveasbut  running with gdb makes it painfully slow :)05:15
kvidellsun.com eh? Say hi to Cantrill for me ;P (He'd actually have no idea who I am but I saw him speak at BayLISA last week)05:15
refuze2loozeSeveas, nevermind i got it using firefox -debug05:15
Seveas:)05:15
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Benjamin_La general question. is it necessary to "exit" a root terminal or is it enough to just close it ?05:17
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TiMiDois not good to leave it open05:17
Seveasclose means exiting :)05:17
TiMiDooh sorry closing it (:05:17
cazabamBenjamin_L: as long as the login process dies, the manner of it's death is unimportant :)05:18
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Benjamin_Lok05:18
kvidelloo.. caffeine and nyquil is a funky trip.. d'oh!05:18
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nalioth_wrknkvidell: is that anything like kaffeine and noatun?05:19
kvidell:-P05:19
kvidellthis is what I get for being oblivious and addicted to coffee.05:19
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owlmanattAnyone here had any success setting up a Linksys WUSB11 wireless-b network adapter under Ubuntu?05:21
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owlmanattThere seems to be a driver for it for linux, but I'm getting horribly confused with all of the stuff I'm finding on google05:21
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k3pp0hi all!!05:22
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Seveashi05:24
k3pp0just testin irc:)05:24
Seveas:)05:24
queuetueWhere is the "#$!#@ why didn't they set up alsa properly?" howto? :)  I know I've seen it before..05:25
Seveasqueuetue, aoogle for #$!$@ :)05:25
Seveasor search for alsa at the wiki :)05:26
despeehesound :)05:26
k3pp0lol05:26
Kamping_KaiserI'm bored ! breezys up to date, I've got nothing to dist-upgrade05:26
owlmanattKamping_Kaiser: rm -rf /etc and reboot then, since you're so bored. =)05:26
despeehkamping you can delete your programs and download again :)05:27
jbroomeKamping_Kaiser: play with debian sid, i'm sure that'll be a challenge. :)05:27
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Kamping_Kaiserowlmanatt, but what about t3h l33tzor pr0nz?05:27
owlmanattYou store pr0n in /etc?!05:27
jbroomethat gets backed up, obviously05:27
owlmanattThe Linux Standards Base people would flay you...05:27
Kamping_Kaiserlol jbroom,05:27
Kamping_Kaiserlol05:27
Kamping_Kaiserwhere should it go?05:27
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OsirisHi im thinking of switching to ubunt from windows xp, i have experience with debian, and was just wondering if anyone had successfully got  a all in one printer working in ubuntu as i have checked google and nobody seems to have had any luck05:28
Zukerohow can I retreive my ip adress from console ?05:28
nalioth_wrknOsiris: try the LiveCD05:28
cazabamosiris: which one? if it's HP then they're all fully supported - by HP!05:28
Kamping_Kaiserosiris linuxprinting.org.... is it listed as supported?05:28
SeveasKamping_Kaiser, /var/pr0n/05:28
cazabamosiris: if epson, bit flakey05:28
OsirisKamping_Kaiser, no its not on the list at linuxprinting.org05:28
Kamping_Kaiseroh, thanks seveas :D05:28
cazabamosiris: if lexmark, forget it :(05:28
Seveas:)05:29
Kamping_Kaiserosiris. good luck with it... I'm off to bed.05:29
mindspinzukero ifconfig05:29
Zukerothx05:29
Osiriscazabam, Yeah its a lexmark p315005:29
Kamping_Kaisernight all... have fun wiht the old rm -rf foo05:29
cazabamosiris: ah...05:29
OsirisLooking a bit grim heh05:29
cazabamyeah :(05:30
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akrameHi all05:30
akrameis someone here ?05:30
Seveasno05:30
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mindspinlots05:30
akrameplease i have a problem with X05:30
cazabamosiris, apparently someone managed to pull a sheet through once :-/05:30
Seveasakrame, look at the topic: just ask :)05:30
cazabamoops05:30
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mdipihey all05:31
mdipiwhen I run 'sudo apt-get update'05:31
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Seveasyes...?05:32
mdipisorry hold on05:32
mdipii gotta grab the erro05:32
Seveas:)05:32
carlFKan app is erroring with "Unable to open /dev/dsp: Permission denied"05:32
mdipi*error05:32
akramehi all , i can't lunch my Xorg , i have an error : xinitrc: line9:/etc/X11/Xsession no such file or directory05:32
Seveasuou can paste it on paste.ubuntulinux.nl too :)05:32
carlFKI am guessing that is because a sound server is using it?05:32
OsiriscarlFK, is your sound working properley by any chance?05:32
SeveascarlFK, correct05:33
akrameHelp me , please05:33
akrameplease05:33
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Seveasteach the erroring app to use esd05:33
mdipiThis is the error i get:05:33
mdipiW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems05:33
mdipiE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.05:33
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Seveasor disable esd while runnong it...05:33
OsiriscarlFK, what app is it?05:33
akramehi all , i can't lunch my Xorg , i have an error : xinitrc: line9:/etc/X11/Xsession no such file or directory05:33
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Seveasmdipi, that's only part of the output, paste the complete output to paste.ubuntulinux.nl please05:33
_eXoDuSakrame: stop that, one time is enough05:33
cazabamakrame: does the file exist?05:33
carlFKaplay /usr/share/hwdb-client/sound.wav05:33
carlFKthat works05:33
Seveasakrame: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.05:33
carlFKapp that is erroring is yate (voip phone)05:34
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akramecazabam no05:34
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_eXoDuSSeveas: you should run an apt bot here :)05:34
justinakrame: what did you do?05:34
Seveasakrame, have you by any chance removed /etc/X11/Xsession?05:34
OsiriscarlFK, id try doing what Seveas said .05:34
cazabamakrame: sounds like X is b0rked - is this a fresh install?05:34
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akrameyes05:35
akrameno05:35
akramei've just installed x05:35
Seveasakrame, I hope you did not try breezy...05:35
carlFKOsiris, thanks (if you hadn't have said that, I would have mised it)05:35
Seveasand taht you installed X from the *official* Ubuntu repositories...05:35
douglasIf I want to mount an ext3 volume so that all users can read and write it, what would be the fstab mount option?05:35
akrameno05:35
Seveasdouglas, simply mount it05:35
akramethis is hoary base system05:35
OsiriscarlFK, heh no probs.05:35
akramewithout X05:36
Seveasdouglas, and run chmod -R 777 /the/mount/point05:36
_eXoDuS...05:36
_eXoDuSwithout X?05:36
Seveasakrame, how did you install X?05:36
ThE__OnEwhats the link for the bin folder?05:36
_eXoDuSand you are complaining X doesn't run?05:36
akrameapt-get install xserver-xorg05:36
douglasWhat about new files?05:36
Seveasakrame, duh...05:36
akrameand x-window-system-core05:36
akrameand gdm05:36
Seveasakrame, the X server alone is not enough..05:36
ThE__OnEnerver mind05:36
Seveastry gnome-desktop-environment05:36
akrameno05:37
akramei don't want gnome05:37
douglasSeveas: What about new files, will I be able to write to it then?05:37
carlFKesd was running, I killed it.  but same error in yate05:37
akramekde neither05:37
Seveasor whatever DE you like05:37
akramei want enlightenement05:37
ThE__OnEgnome-desktop-environment? whats that?05:37
cazabamakrame: you can install X via any you want05:37
_eXoDuSah05:37
Seveasakrame, install it then...05:37
_eXoDuSthe guy that was on before05:37
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cazabamakrame: just apt-get the DE ...05:37
_eXoDuSthat can't even spell englightenment05:37
akrame_eXoDuS:  :)05:37
akrameany idea about why i don't have Xsession ?05:38
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Seveasdouglas, you need to set the group of the folder to users iirc05:38
Seveasakrame, because you didn't install a WM or DE...05:38
akramei've install gdm and enlight...05:38
Zukerohmm05:38
douglasSeveas: How do I do that?05:38
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Zukeromaybe you can help me again05:38
_eXoDuSakrame: what makes you think gdm works with englightenment?05:39
Zukerothis my problem is with Eclipse05:39
akramenothin :)05:39
_eXoDuSakrame: ah ok05:39
Seveasakrame, you need to have xorg-common installed05:39
Zukeroit doesn't find startup.jar05:39
Zukerobut it is here05:39
akrameSeveas:  i have xorg-common05:39
_eXoDuSSeveas: i dont think gdm includes a session script for e05:39
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Seveasakrame, well, then you installed it the wrong way...05:39
carlFKhow do I tell what group a user is in?05:40
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Seveas_eXhumed, the enlightenment package should provide that05:40
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lukus001I just followed this post at ubuntu about install gimpshop, i followed it up to the point where it says "make" and i'm getting a "no rule to make targert 'install' " error,    what am i suposed to do?05:40
SeveascarlFK, groups username05:40
ThE__OnEhow can i move something to the bin folder with terminal?05:40
carlFKSeveas, thanks05:40
akrameapt-get xorg-common05:40
akramesimple !05:40
SeveasThanatermesis, mv whatever_you_want ~/.Trash05:40
TiMiDoThE__OnE, mv05:40
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_eXoDuSakrame: what about the install ?05:41
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VincentXhi05:41
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akramewhich install ?05:42
_eXoDuSakrame: apt-get install xorg-common05:42
lukus001I keep getting a "no rule to make target 'install'" when following this post here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40427&page=1&pp=10 fo install GIMPshop... it tells me to paste "make" in the terminal...05:42
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chrissturmexodus: what about the sudo ? :P05:43
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_eXoDuSchrissturm: im assuming he is root05:43
akrame_eXoDuS:  done05:43
_eXoDuSchrissturm: i dont use sudo at al05:43
akramewait i'll remove everythin05:43
akrameand try again05:43
ThE__OnEwhere is the startup folder located?05:44
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Tomcat_Startup folder?05:44
_eXoDuSThE__OnE: the what what?05:44
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Tomcat_ThE__OnE: Automatically opening apps at Gnome login is in System=>Prefs=>Sessions05:45
_eXoDuSah05:45
_eXoDuSrofl05:45
_eXoDuSstartup folder...05:45
ThE__OnEi have a random wallpaper change and it tells me to put the file in the startup folder05:45
Tomcat_ThE__OnE: Okay, put the command in that Sessions thingy then.05:45
_eXoDuSThE__OnE: you sure that's not for windows?05:45
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cazabamchrissturm: did you get imagemagick to play? I am at work so I had to go do something :(05:46
Tomcat_But it sounds like windows, because there's no Linux Window Manager with a startup folder. :o05:46
ThE__OnEexodus, are you sure your on UBUNTU?05:46
chrissturmcazabam, thanks, worked great!05:46
cd_dcwhat about KDE05:46
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cazabamcool :)05:46
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Tomcat_cd_dc: Isn't it different in KDE as well?05:46
treadhi .. is anyone here from europe? do you know if hp has started selling the promised 100% ubuntu compatible laptops yet?05:46
_eXoDuSThE__OnE: being a linux user for over 8 years, yes. i'm pretty sure where i am05:46
cd_dcI think it has a folder05:47
Tomcat_tread: My HP laptop is 100% Ubuntu compatible. :P05:47
Seveastread, well, the hp nc6000 which i use is fully compatible :)05:47
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Seveasincluding the led in the mute button!05:47
Tomcat_tread: Haven't found anything that wouldn't work so far... but I never tested everything05:47
chrissturmtread, i think that breezy will be the certified distro, but i am not 100% szre05:47
ThE__OnEhaving comon sense, i know what code iam looking it by "reading"05:47
Zukerocan someone here help me launching Eclipse under ubuntu ?05:47
Tomcat_Seveas: Yeah same with nx9030 :)05:47
Tomcat_Even the WLAN LED! :)05:47
treadso do they sell it without windows then? thats the question really, i'm planning to buy one but cant buy one without windows here in the US05:47
_eXoDuSThE__OnE: what common sense are you talking about when you ask about a start folder? (which is what windows has to start applications)05:48
SeveasTomcat_, well, the wlan led is all hardware05:48
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ThE__OnEexodus 1 sec05:48
Tomcat_Seveas: Not mine... mine is software.05:48
treadso i was thinking of getting a friend to buy and get when he comes here05:48
SeveasI just got the mutebutton led to work with an amixer trick :)05:48
SeveasTomcat_, ah, mine is pure hardware..05:48
InitMassis it possible to choose which soundcard realplayer should use?05:48
Tomcat_Seveas: I have to start ipw2200 with led=1 or something. :] 05:48
Seveaslol :)05:49
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cazabamzukero: what's the issue?05:49
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Zukeroeclipse doesn't find it's companiion startup.jar05:49
Zukerobut05:49
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Zukeroit is here right where needed05:49
chrissturmzukero: what java version?05:49
Zukerowith right owner and rwx mods05:50
Razor-Xnetsplit!05:50
Zukero1.4.205:50
cazabamare you launching eclipse from within it's own directory ?05:50
Zukeroyep05:50
cazabamhmm05:50
treadfocus people :) is it possible to buy an hp without windows in europe at the moment?05:50
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Razor-Xtread: doubt it05:50
Zukerowell05:50
Zukeroi checked05:50
Zukeroand for java05:50
ThE__OnE-exodus, would you mind looking at http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/clasqm/ranwp.sh05:51
treadah shucks. thanks for the answer ..05:51
Razor-XHP is very Windows bundled05:51
Zukeroi have SableVM 1.1.805:51
ThE__OnE_exodus, would you mind looking at http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/clasqm/ranwp.sh05:51
Zukeroi tried ./eclipse with and without root console05:51
Zukeroand even the double click on the executable05:51
Zukeroalways the same error05:52
ZukeroThe Eclipse executable launcher was unable to locate its05:52
Zukerocompanion startup.jar file (in the same directory as the executable).05:52
cazabamzukero: not tried with sablevm before05:52
Razor-XZukero: try googling05:52
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Zukerowhat is the package name for the Sun JRE in synaptics, if there is any ?05:53
cazabamzukero: info here: http://sablevm.org/wiki/Eclipse05:53
ZukeroRazor-X : what's googling ?05:53
cazabamzukero: there is a special script05:53
Razor-XZukero: sudo apt-get search foo05:53
_eXoDuSThE__OnE: i dont see a startup folder mentioned anywhere05:53
Razor-XZukero: ................05:53
Zukerook thx cazabam05:53
Zukerook05:53
Razor-Xyou've never heard of the search engine google?05:53
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ZukeroRazor-X05:53
Zukero:)05:53
cazabamzukero: the gist of it seems to be to but startup.jar in the classpath with a -cp option05:54
Zukeroi thought it was some script or so05:54
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ThE__OnEwell he said put it with your startup things, adn so i thuogh he was refering about the startup folder05:54
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_eXoDuSthere's no STARTUP FOLDER in UNIX05:54
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_eXoDuSwhat part of that you don't get?05:54
dim_witted_kidhello05:55
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_eXoDuSThE__OnE: you said the app said 'startup folder' now it means that you made that up05:55
cazabamzukero: yeah... just looking how it works...05:55
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dim_witted_kidhow do i change my screen from 640x480 to 1024x768?05:55
dim_witted_kidi just installed ubuntu05:55
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ThE__OnEdid you read my above comment?05:55
_eXoDuSThE__OnE: what it's telling you is to add it to either crontab or your DE's startup settings, which as you were already told are in system->preferences->session05:55
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_eXoDuS<ThE__OnE> well he said put it with your startup things, adn so i thuogh he was refering about the startup folder05:56
ThE__OnEsettings?05:56
Titan3025hi all05:56
ThE__OnEnow you lie05:56
cmihaiIs anyone familiar with USB IrDA dongles (Like for transfering data to / from a Nokia telephone for example). I know the Gnokii program has a few things for transferring data, but I'm not sure if Linux supports such devices.05:56
_eXoDuSyes i did read your comment05:56
zukalkdim_witted_kid: have you tried System > Preferences > Screen resolution ?05:56
ThE__OnE"Then put it in a crontab or with your startup programs"05:56
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ThE__OnEand program are usually put in a folder05:56
ThE__OnEthe end.05:57
_eXoDuSThE__OnE: yes, in WINDOWS05:57
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ThE__OnEwell DID you read my above comment?05:57
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ThE__OnEiam a begginer in Linux05:57
dim_witted_kidthe only option was 640x480, but my cars supports higher resolution than that05:57
_eXoDuSThE__OnE: again? are you utterly stupid?05:57
Titan3025Sometimes the / filesystem is busy on shutdowns or reboots. therefor is is not umounted correctly. Any1 know this problem?05:57
ThE__OnEyour just a troll05:57
chrissturmyou guys should calm down05:57
zukalkdim_witted_kid, i think you can edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file05:58
_eXoDuSThE__OnE: uhh, yeah, im a trolll.. sigh, carry one05:58
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ThE__OnEno need to carry, only a basket is needed05:58
dim_witted_kidi did... my system crashed05:58
_eXoDuSThE__OnE: I would suggest windows XP, it's what fits your IQ05:58
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Zukerocazabam : how do i run such a script ?05:58
zukalkdim_witted_kid, what exactly did you do?05:58
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ThE__OnEi would suggest mandrake for person like you05:58
ninwa_eXoDuS, That's unneccasary.05:58
holycowI'm finally starting to get decently productive on gnome 2.10 as a development platform05:59
Titan3025hehe05:59
_eXoDuSThE__OnE: being a debian developer, no thanks, i stick with debian05:59
holycowits really kinda  cool in terms of workflow05:59
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cazabamzukero: you need  to create a script in the eclipse folder and create a text file (call it eclipse-sable or something)05:59
cazabamzukero: put the script from the wiki into that file and make the file executable05:59
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dim_witted_kidi removed all other sub entries for other bit depth setting and retained only the 24 bit depth setting and retained only the 1024x768 resolution05:59
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_eXoDuSninwa: i know, but he's pissed me off06:00
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dim_witted_kidafter that x would not start and i could not log in06:00
Zukerook06:00
zukalkdim_witted_kid, what's your gfx card and what drivers are you using?06:00
cazabamzukero: make sure you update JAVA and ECLIPSE_HOME lines at the top of the file to point to your real java and eclipse06:00
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Titan3025Can any1 help me with this unclean shutdown problem on Ubuntu (where the / device is busy)? Plz06:00
Zukeroyeah np06:00
ninwa_eXoDuS, Didn't you see the "Don't feed the Troll" sign? Hehe, he'll go back to his bridge soon enough.06:00
ninwa:o)06:00
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dim_witted_kidnvidia tnt riva 6406:00
Seveas_eXoDuS, ThE__OnE and everyone please cool down...06:00
dim_witted_kidand i'm not sure about the driver06:01
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_eXoDuSninwa: heh06:01
zukalkdim_witted_kid, under Section "Device", what's the "Driver"?06:01
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zukalkin the xorg.conf file, that is06:01
dim_witted_kidsorry i don't remember06:02
zukalkwell, check it06:02
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dim_witted_kidi can't log on ubuntu06:02
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dim_witted_kidi can't log in06:02
Razor-Xwhy can't you log in?06:02
zukalkdim_witted_kid, login using recovery mode06:02
ThE__OnEhow do i move a lot of my wallpapers i dwonloaded to the backgrounds folder?06:02
Seveasdim_witted_kid, you can login on the text console if the graphical user interface doesn't work06:02
Razor-Xjust because X fails to load, Ubuntu still works06:02
zukalkright06:03
SeveasThE__OnE, sudo mv -i *.jpg /use/share/backgrounds/06:03
Razor-XThE__OnE: same as you do any other moving operation06:03
ThE__OnEa lot06:03
dim_witted_kidhow do i do that?06:03
ThE__OnElike over 3006:03
SeveasThE__OnE, please...06:03
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Seveasover 30 isn't a lot06:03
Razor-XThE__OnE: this isn't Windows06:03
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_eXoDuSsome people shouldn't be allowed to get on irc :/06:03
Razor-Xin Linux, you don't transfer things one at a time06:03
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Seveas_eXoDuS, stop it...06:03
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Razor-Xhaven't you ever used DOS?06:03
_eXoDuSinstead they should be locked in a room with a big unix manual06:03
ThE__OnEis there a command where you can move the contains of a folder to another?06:03
_eXoDuSSeveas: hey, im not pulling names06:04
gleapsitehello06:04
zukalkdim_witted_kid, when you start Ubuntu and X crashes, press Ctrl+Alt+F106:04
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SeveasThE__OnE, please read what we say06:04
Razor-XThE__OnE: ever used wildcards?.... or DOS?06:04
Seveasof you want all the details: man mv06:04
Seveasif*06:04
drspinhey all -- I'm trying to make my multimedia keys work in XFCE -- I've created .Xmodmap -- added it to .xsession and it doesn't work :/06:04
ThE__OnEkk06:04
Seveas_eXoDuS, no but I am06:04
dim_witted_kidthanks zukalk06:04
Seveaskeep it down, this is a newbie-friendly channel06:04
dim_witted_kidyou've been very helpful06:04
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zukalkyou're wellcome06:05
carlFKuser is in the audio group, ess is not running, but I still get "Unable to open /dev/dsp: Permission denied"06:05
Razor-Xdrspin: try setxkbmap06:05
amonkeyon my laptop, i was untaring something and all of a sudden it starting beeping like crazy and when it was done (i didn't stop it), all the characters i type are wrong. they come up as symbols.06:05
zukalkdim_witted_kid, just tell me how it went06:05
carlFKamonkey, sounds like you untar ed it to stdout (the console)06:05
Seveasamonkey, how exactly did you untar?06:05
Razor-XSeveas: still, I tihnk Wildcard usage is a neccessary prerequisite before Linux06:05
drspinRazor-X: Just tun it?06:05
ThE__OnE_exodus, for your info i got Linux Bible 2005 that i orders, and iam jsut waiting for it06:06
Razor-Xdrspin: add in keysyms, basically06:06
ThE__OnEordered*06:06
mbirkiswhere is the ubuntu torrent?06:06
cjsone LED left! damned mail ;)06:06
ThE__OnEno one is born with knwing everything like you _exodus06:06
carlFKhow can I test that my user has access to /dev/dsp?06:06
bob2mbirkis: cdimage.ubuntu.com06:06
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amonkeycarlFK, you're right, i just realizedi forgot to pipe it06:06
mbirkisbob2: thnx06:06
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Razor-XSeveas: my dad taught me about wildcards back when I was 6 ;)06:06
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SeveasThE__OnE, good, read that book carefully :)06:06
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ThE__OnEyes i wil06:07
carlFKamonkey, normaly you don't need to pipe - you doing something odd?06:07
dim_witted_kidi will06:07
amonkeycarlFK, any idea how to uncharacter it? should i just reboot? commands work even i f a can't read them06:07
dim_witted_kidthanks :)06:07
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zukalk:)06:07
amonkeycarlFK, i was following a guide and it said to gzip -d < *.tgz | tar vxf -06:07
_eXoDuSThE__OnE: no, but some lucky of us have learnt to read and pay attention06:07
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carlFKamonkey, yeah... there is a command to send a reset command to the console...06:07
chrissturmwhats the name of the nokia telephone that runs gnome?06:07
bob2it's not a phone06:07
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bob2but it's the Nokia 77006:08
Seveas_eXoDuS, for the last time, keep it down...06:08
_eXoDuShe's the one that keeps bringing it up06:08
zukalkyeah, stop acting like kids06:08
wendywhats a good stats OSD for ubuntu? Is there one that I can install with apt-get?06:08
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zukalklol06:08
Seveasplease cool down...06:08
drspinRazor-X: It seems that when I try and bind the keys in XFCE, they are all being read as the same key...06:09
Seveasamonkey, that guide was bad, you should use tar zxvf *.tgz06:09
Razor-Xdrspin: you sure you have the right Keysyms?06:09
CygniaDoes anyone know of a way to get Linux to boot on an iMac G5 (Rev. B)?06:09
Seveassaves you a pipe and these shell problems :)06:09
Razor-XI'm not sure how you bind keys in XFce, actually, I was talking about a global X bind06:09
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Seveaswendy, what do you mean with "stats OSD"?06:09
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amonkeySeveas, is that better than the other way? i think the only reason it didn't work was that i didn't pipe it.06:10
amonkeycarlFK, reset did the trick06:10
SeveascarlFK, it saves you starting a process and using a pipe06:10
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justinamonkey: what is this "guide" that you are following?06:10
Seveasand imho it's cleaner :)06:10
carlFKamonkey, oh good, I couldn't find the command I was looking for06:10
TiMiDohe06:10
carlFKSeveas, guessing you meant that for someone else06:10
amonkeycarlFK, according to this, it's the same as echo -e \\033c06:11
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amonkeyjustin, building xfree from source06:11
drspinRazor-X: xev to find them and direct copy and paste from /usr/lib/X11/XKeysymDB06:11
Razor-Xjust to let you know amonkey, piping is ineffecient06:11
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SeveascarlFK, eh yes, for amonkey :)06:11
justinamonkey: why would you go and do something dumb like that?06:11
Razor-XDreadshoot: yeah, that's global X, i'm pretty sure06:11
Razor-Xerrr06:11
carlFKSeveas, I am trying to get yate to work with dsp and gettign "permission denied"06:11
Razor-Xdamned tab-complete!06:12
Razor-Xdrspin, sorry06:12
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TiMiDodamn xfonts-100dpi06:12
amonkeyjustin, although i run ubuntu on my desktop i needed something a little less heavy for my laptop (not much ram, 300mhz). dsl's tinyx wouldn't run on my laptop's trident videocard, but i read newer version of xfree could06:12
carlFKwhen I add a user to a group, I don't have to restart bash or anything, right?06:12
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psh1hi all. i'm trying to grab all deb's from a directory with wget, but having trouble. anyone know the syntax?06:13
amonkeyand apt-get isn't installed for some wereason06:13
psh1i'm trying:wget -r -l 1 --no-parent http://urlhere06:13
amonkeypsh1, *.deb?06:13
carlFKpsh1, you need an index.html like thing06:13
justinamonkey: how is ubuntu too heavy for your laptop?06:13
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carlFKpsh1, at least the server needs to generate the list of files, or you need to know the list...06:13
drspinRazor-X: so it seems that .xsession isn't being called at startup ?!? odd -- I manually ran the xmodmap command using my Xmodmap file and they work now06:14
psh1carlFK, so there's no way of just getting the whole directory, regardless of index.html?06:14
Razor-Xdrspin: not sure why.... *shrugs*06:14
ninwajustin, I can see how it's too heavy if he's on a 300mhz with little RAM06:14
psh1carlFK, like mirroring it? it doesnt matter about getting only rpm's in that case06:14
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amonkeyjustin, you think it would run well?06:14
amonkeythanks guys, g2g06:14
carlFKpsh1, no way.  something has to know the name of the to GET06:14
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justinamonkey: how much ram is not much?06:15
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drspinRazor-X: no worries -- got em working :)06:15
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carlFKpsh1, even when you cp, bash translates * into the list of files06:15
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mbirkisi get error when trying to connect to the tracker: Requested download is not authorised for use with this tracker. what could be wrong?06:15
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carlFKnot sure how ftp does *06:15
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wendyseveas: like samurize for windows...  I've looked at gDesklets and gKrellM, but i can't install them with apt, and i'm not that good at installing from scratch yet06:16
Seveaswendy, gdesklets are definitely installable with apt-get06:16
bob2wendy: both are installable from apt06:16
gorilla_carlFK, depends on the ftp server, mget * would probably evaluate to all files like shells do.06:16
Seveaswendy, you might need to enable universe though06:17
TiMiDowendy: apt-get install gkrellm gdesklets06:17
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wendylet me run that, i'll get back to you06:17
TiMiDoalright,06:17
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JuNkPhreak|UnIxHola all06:18
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Seveashi06:18
wendyroot@ubuntu:/home/wendy # apt-get install gdesklets06:18
wendyReading package lists... Done06:18
wendyBuilding dependency tree... Done06:18
wendyE: Couldn't find package gdesklets06:18
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Seveaswendy, enable universe then06:18
Seveaswendy: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:18
Seveaswendy: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3806:18
TiMiDocan she do apt-setup?06:18
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AnguShello! i have trouble with my tv card... i set up tvtime, but somehow the tv card seems not to get any signal... however in windows it works without problems. any suggestions?06:19
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AnguSit's a bt848 based tv card06:19
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SeveasTiMiDo, apt-setup is buggy, on my machine it still wants to set warty..06:19
TiMiDoAnguS: are you using framebutter?06:19
carlFKdoes aplay use esd?06:20
AnguSTiMiDo: no idea06:20
AnguS(you mean framebuffer i guess?)06:20
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TiMiDoyeah06:20
TiMiDosorry about that06:20
AnguSwell i have no idea06:20
AnguSjust know that my bt878 had image but no sound, and this 848 has nothing at all :(06:20
justinAnguS: bttv driver usually gets the tuner type wrong06:20
carlFKno.  ok, i thought I could run aplay as a user, but now only root can06:21
AnguSi see06:21
AnguShow can i manually specify the tuner?06:21
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justinAnguS: tuner option to bttv module.. 2 is usually what you want06:22
AnguSjustin: and where do i set that, if i may ask :D06:22
justinAnguS: /etc/modules usually06:22
justinjust add/change 'bttv tuner=2'06:23
AnguSuh, bttv is not even there =) ok06:23
wendygreat, thanks seveas,  synaptic is now downloading and installing06:23
Lafitte-what would i check if i can see my linux shares in windows and get a login but cant login ?     i have users and password allowed for samba06:23
Seveasyou're welcome :)06:23
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carlFKaplay error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/14006:26
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carlFKbut I am just tryting to figure out if my user/group rights are right... is that a good test?06:27
mbirkiswhat does this meen?: Requested download is not authorised for use with this tracker.06:28
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jorgpheh nvu just segfaulted06:29
carlFKmbirkis, it means the tracker only allows torrents it knows about, and the one you are using isn't on the list06:29
carlFKmbirkis, aka: something is hosed06:29
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mbirkiscarlFK: hmm... what list? can i add to the list?06:29
AnguSuh i have a little problem, my dmesg is full of these errors: powernow-k8: vid trans failed, vid 0x3, curr 0x406:30
AnguSpowernow-k8: transition frequency failed06:30
carlFKmbirkis, only if you have access to the tracker06:30
carlFKmbirkis, so if you are asking, probably not ;)06:30
AnguShow can i fix this?06:30
mbirkiscarlFK: it is the ubuntu tracker06:30
mbirkis:(06:30
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linuxnubhi06:30
carlFKmbirkis, they seem to have troubles with BT06:30
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linuxnubcan i ask here for ubuntu trouble shooting?06:31
AMDXPhello folks06:33
carlFKlinuxnub, yes.06:33
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mbirkiscarlFK: is there any other trackers available?06:33
linuxnubmy problem: while booting i have the "grub error 18"06:33
linuxnubhow can i change to lilo?06:34
bob2mbirkis: the ubuntu tracker is down?06:34
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mbirkisbob2: Requested download is not authorised for use with this tracker.06:34
AMDXPlinuxnub: ask away someone maybe able to help you or at least point you in the right way06:34
mbirkisbob2: that is the message i get06:34
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mbirkisbob2: this is the amd64 tracker06:34
linuxnub???06:35
bob2mbirkis: on cdimage.ubuntu.com?06:35
mbirkisbob2: yes06:35
bob2mbirkis: ok, thanks06:35
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jfk303How can I connect to the bearshare (or whatever that connects too) network in ubuntu? Thanks..06:36
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AMDXPgrub error 18 i am not familiar with error06:36
linuxnubis it the wrong place fr my question?06:36
bob2linuxnub: what have you changed since it last worked?06:37
bob2mbirkis: do other torrents work for you? I'm not getting an error from it.06:37
mbirkisbob2: 1sec... will check06:37
carlFKmbirkis, what is the URL you got the torrent from?06:37
mbirkiscarlFK: cdimage.ubuntu.com the amd64 5.04 torrent06:38
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linuxnubit never worked06:38
linuxnubsorry my english...06:39
carlFKmbirkis, there are no torrents at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/06:39
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linuxnubi just installed it today06:39
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Kurt2xubuntu eh06:39
carlFKmbirkis, what is the whole URL of the torrent you are tying to use?06:40
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mbirkiscarlFK: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/array-7/hoary-install-amd64.iso.torrent06:41
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mbirkisbob2: the fedora torrent works for med06:41
mbirkis*me06:41
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carlFKarray-7?06:42
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bob2mbirkis: er, that's really really really old06:42
battlecatHi General question. I am about to reinstall UBUNTU and I was wondering what is the best way to partition and format the 20 gig drive? Any tips, pointers, advice, or links would be wonderful! :) Thank you.06:42
Tonglebeaki tried using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto to set up wifi, but the thing is, linux doesn't even know that a network card is attached to the computer06:42
mbirkisbob2: what is really really old?06:42
bob2mbirkis: that torrent06:42
bob2mbirkis: I'm not surprisde it doesn't work06:43
mbirkisbob2: lead me the right way! :)06:43
neighborleeanyway to fix this er ror when running synaptic from : admin > synatpic ?? ::: unable to copy the users Xauthorization file06:43
neighborleelast question would be what caused this to happen ?06:43
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battlecatAlso is there a way when installing Ubuntu to specify not to install the office packages?06:43
bob2mbirkis: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hoary/06:44
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mbirkisbob2: thnx alot... can't wait to get ubuntu installed :)06:45
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dashdon't use breezy? _now_ they tell me. ;->06:45
zukalklol06:45
Tonglebeakcan i get some help with my network card06:46
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battlecatIs there a FTP site where you can download ISO CDs of popular packages?06:46
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zukalkTonglebeak, what card is it?06:46
dashguess i'm doomed, then06:46
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TonglebeakBlitzz 802.11 WLAN ...it's not even detected by linux as being a network card, as if it's not plugged in06:47
linuxnubhallo?06:47
nalioth_wrknlinuxnub: hello06:47
zukalkdid you follow any tutorials?06:47
zukalkndiswrapper should do it, let me find the link06:47
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Tonglebeaki followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto , but that seemed to be just if linux even detected that a network card exists06:48
Tonglebeakthe link to ndiswrapper ... the page said not to do what it says, until it's rewritten06:48
naliothbrb06:49
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zukalkTonglebeak, it worked for me06:50
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zukalkdunno what they say it's not the right method06:50
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zukalkyou make the deb from the source and install it06:50
bob2no06:50
bob2that's silly06:50
Tonglebeakzukalk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto is what said it isn't the right thing06:50
bob2unless you're sure your card isn't supported by the version in ubuntu06:50
Tonglebeakoh well, i should od it anyways?06:51
Tonglebeak*do06:51
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zukalki dunno, i'm just a newb06:51
SeveasTonglebeak, the easy and correct way to setup ndiswrapper is apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)06:52
Seveasand simply running ndiswrapper -i <your inffile>06:52
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TonglebeakSeveas: being new to linux, what is <inffile>?06:53
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stjepanhi06:53
stjepanwhere can I download JRE for Ubuntu?06:53
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stjepanI need it to run eclipse06:53
nightswimjava.sun.com06:53
SeveasTonglebeak, the file which name ends on .inf that comes with your windows driver06:53
Seveasstjepan: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 06:53
stjepantnx06:54
TonglebeakSeveas: alright, i'll try that06:54
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stjepanSeveas, what .bin file?06:56
carlFKplay gives "sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Permission denied"06:56
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Seveasstjepan, you need to download the 'linux self extracting installer'06:57
carlFKbut the user is in the audio group, and I can't find anything using dsp06:57
Seveasit's named js2dk-VERSION.bin06:57
stjepanSeveas, I see06:57
stjepantnx06:57
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TonglebeakSeveas: will this load the driver on bootup also?06:58
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SeveasTonglebeak, no, you need to: echo ndiswrapper | tee -a '/etc/modules'06:58
SeveasTonglebeak, no, you need to: echo ndiswrapper | sudo tee -a '/etc/modules'06:58
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Seveasjust type that last command only once06:58
Tonglebeakok06:58
Seveasand it will then be loaded on every boot06:59
Seveasto see whether the driver works, you can try ndiswrapper -l06:59
Seveasjust to be sure, do: sudo ndiswrapper -m06:59
djpFailed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic: Child terminated with 108 status - Does anyone know why i get this message when i exit synaptic? everything works fine, however i do get this message every so often...06:59
Seveasthat last one only once06:59
Tonglebeakok06:59
Seveasdjp, try starting synaptic from a terminal with sudo synaptic06:59
Seveasit'll probably give you more info07:00
carlFKhow bad is it to chmod 777 dsp?07:00
dr_willishmm.. better to ask why you are doing that? :P07:00
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carlFKdr_willis, well, the user is in the audio group, but i get "perm denied"07:01
dr_willisI belive theres a ubuntu sound wiki   that covers what you need to do.07:01
SeveascarlFK, that's odd07:02
carlFKSeveas, ineed.07:02
carlFKer... indeed.07:02
Seveaschmod 777 will not help much either I guess07:02
Seveasand more importantly, that chmod is lost on reboot07:02
djpSeveas: i have to use my password when i run synaptic from gnome, how will using sudo from the command prompt help?07:02
Seveasdjp, the password is asked by gksudo, not by synaptic itself07:03
carlFKSeveas, 666 did.  664 did not.07:03
Seveasodd07:03
Seveasis /dev/dsp owned by root:audio?07:03
djpSeveas: so you think that is where the error is coming from? apologies Seveas, i don't really understand... please excuse my ignorance...07:03
dr_willisMine looks like --->>>>      crw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 3 2005-06-20 11:28 /dev/dsp07:04
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carlFKaww crap.  apparently I need to restart bash when I add a user to a group?07:04
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Seveasdjp, no I even think that that's not where the error is coming from, butusually programs write diagnostic info to the terminal. That's why I asked you to run it from the terminal07:04
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SeveascarlFK, that might indeed be the case../.07:05
carlFKSeveas, im surprised.07:05
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dr_willisyea. loging out/backin - or i think theres some command to change from one group to another.07:05
carlFKbut I put dsp back to 660 and user carl can play sound.wav07:05
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Seveasnice07:06
Seveasyou will need to logout&login too for the new group being noticed globally i guess07:06
djpSeveas: oh i see, sorry! have tried running from command line, but no problems. it doesn't happen all that often, infact this is the second time i have noticed the error message. it may be something to do with leaving synaptic open for a long period. i had left it runnung and gone on the school run to pick up my eldest son you see... ;)07:06
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Seveasdjp, even then it should not happen :)07:07
Seveasdoesn't it give more errorinfo?07:07
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TiMiDodjp: can you pasted the error some where on a webpage?07:08
djpSeveas: no. that error message i posted prevoiusly was the total sum of the error message. obviously when i ran synaptic from the command line there was no error message as it ran fine...07:09
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Seveas:)07:09
TiMiDoyou can't run synaptic from a command line is graphical that's why07:10
TiMiDoisn't it?07:10
djpTiMiDo: sure07:10
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djm62TiMiDo: you can run it /from/ the command line07:10
TiMiDoyeah i know =)07:10
SeveasTiMiDo, you're thinking too dos-like :)07:10
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Seveassudo synaptic works fine :)07:10
djm62yeah, you need to think more longhorn/monad ;)07:10
mbruemmerhaving a problem with with ibook g4, that is at boot of hoary :[radeonfb (0000:00:10.0) invalid ROM signature 0 should be0xaa5507:11
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mbruemmer] 07:11
djpTiMiDo: Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic: Child terminated with 108 status, was all that it said though...07:11
mbruemmersombody here who cann help me?07:11
TiMiDodjp: do ps x and see if is running07:11
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stranyone using monodevelop?07:12
cabajgtrbooting the ibook of the CD or HD?07:12
mbruemmerhd boot07:12
cabajgtrhmm, i haven't installed it on my ibook, but had no probs with the livecd07:12
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djpTiMiDo: see if what is running?07:12
naliothmbruemmer: does it continue to boot?07:13
TiMiDothe sypnatic child07:13
mbruemmerofcause else i didnt write to you07:13
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naliothmbruemmer: i get that error every time, but my ibook boots on up07:13
mbruemmersame with me07:14
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mbruemmerbut how to solve this invalid ROM07:14
Flickieneed help please, got my speedtouch modem working but now it doesnt work :S07:14
naliothmbruemmer: that error is early on in the boot process, right?07:14
mbruemmeryes07:15
djpTiMiDo: 21933 ? S 0:00 gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic - that is reported by running ps x if i have synaptic running07:15
TiMiDodjp: kill -9 2193307:15
TiMiDoand try running it again07:15
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djm62Flickie: when did it stop working?07:15
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SeveasTiMiDo, you are misunderstanding the problem...07:15
TiMiDoyeah big time sorry07:16
Seveasthe problem was that synaptic sometimes exited with a strange exitcode07:16
Flickiedjm62: well i configured it yesturday and when i tunrf off Ubuntu and then logged back in it doesnt work now07:16
djpSeveas: thanks07:16
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Seveasand I think it's indeed due to being open for too long07:16
TiMiDoso maybe is a bug?07:16
naliothmbruemmer: did it just start happening?07:16
SeveasIt might just be a feature of Synaptic :)07:17
djpSeveas: :)07:17
gorilla_Seveas, that would depend on whether it is documented or not :-)07:17
djm62Flickie: how are you trying to start it?07:17
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Seveasgorilla_, that's why I am diving in the docs now ;)07:17
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mbruemmeryes for the first time i was runnig hoary, but everything is working (except xmms & suspending)07:18
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Flickiedjm62: well it said it had configured it to boot on load and the lights light up on the modem so i think its getting a connection07:18
naliothmbruemmer: do you dual boot?07:18
djm62Flickie: can you type ifconfig at a terminal, to see what linux thinks you have?07:19
mbruemmerno linux is my only system07:19
Seveasmbruemmer, let's guess: xmms hangs when trying to play a file?07:19
Flickieok i'll go try07:19
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Flickiebrb07:19
djpSeveas: thanks for the help by the way... i will keep an eye on when i next get that error message, if at all07:20
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mbruemmeryes i tryed to solve it by loading oss and als support via synaptic07:20
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Seveasmbruemmer, simply set the output plugin in xmms to esound07:20
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TiMiDodjp: i'm looking for the error hold up07:20
mbruemmerbut i think i installes it in a wrong depency?07:20
mbruemmeri have been tryed but no one of the plugins will work07:21
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djpTiMiDo: oh, ok. thanks07:22
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naliothmbruemmer: was just wondering (moot now) if OSX worked07:23
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SogniXanyone know how i can launch firefox from the command line specifying gemoetry? -geometry 800x400+0+0 seems to do nothing :(07:23
mbruemmernalioth: excuse me i nativly speak english what is "moot"07:24
dr_willisi thought the -geometery options was for the 'old fashioned' kind of X apps. :P07:24
naliothmbruemmer: moot = irrevelant07:24
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dr_willisSogniX,  may be also the window manager is rembering its last size/position  and restoreing it.07:24
SogniXoh... I see... so what would work for the new kind of xapps07:24
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dr_willisSogniX,  check 'firefox -help'07:25
SogniXdr_willis that's what I was thinking too, except I did get an app to respect my settings07:25
dr_willis-height <value>   is an option :P07:25
SogniXsaw that, but that didn't work either :(07:25
dr_willis-width <value>    also.07:26
dr_willisHmm - sounds liek the window manager may be remebering/rstoreing perhaps07:26
mbruemmernalioth: thx for easy translate ( i forgot the not before the word english so i nativly speak german)07:26
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TiMiDocan't find the error djp07:26
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Cooner750um; hi.. i'm back07:27
mbruemmernalioth: so does the radeonfb  error message harm my system? or what does it mean?07:27
naliothmbruemmer: kein problem07:27
naliothmbruemmer: if your system boots up, then no problem07:27
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mbruemmernalioth: deine muttersprache ist auch deutsch?07:28
naliothmbruemmer: i don't know what it means07:28
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naliothmbruemmer: i spent 6 years in germany (over 10 years ago)07:29
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djpTiMiDo: no problem. thanks for looking though07:29
Flickaroodjm62: heh what am i looking for when i type ifconfig?07:29
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TiMiDodjp: there's no more errors ?07:30
mbruemmernalioth: that meant in en: is your native language german07:30
djpTiMiDo: it is probably something to do with leaving synaptic running for a long period of time07:30
djm62Flickaroo: "lo" will always be there, you want a section (probably eth0) which might not be07:30
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naliothmbruemmer: nien, ich bin americana07:30
djpTiMiDo: nope, that was it it. it actually worked and did exactly what it was supposed to do, however on exit, that error message. strange.07:30
naliothmbruemmer: and can't spell german anymore, lol07:30
Flickaroodjm62: i get lo07:31
djtanseydoes anyone know if there is a way to prevent windows from overwriting your linux partition when it installs?07:31
djm62ok, linux says you don't have networking up07:31
djtanseyi ran grub-install /dev/hda1 by accident and need to reinstall windows, since i can no longer boot it07:31
Flickaroodjm62: argh i hate usb modems!07:31
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nJessi need dvdplayback help07:31
djm62Flickaroo: yeah...what guide were you following to set it up?07:32
pixmannJess, checked the wiki? O_o07:32
nJessmplayer keeps saying "cannot access dvd device"07:32
naliothnJess: read what ubotu says07:32
nalioth!Restricted07:32
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:32
nJessno07:32
nJessnot that07:32
mbruemmernalioth: ok thak you for your help and even if you have any experiance with ibook hardware why does my xmms sound not work07:32
nJessit won't access the hardware, and it used to work before i upgraded to hoary07:32
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cartman is there a packages.debian.org like site for ubuntu?07:33
Flickaroodjm62: http://speedtouchconf.sourceforge.net/07:33
nJessthe wiki doesn't help me07:33
Seveascartman, packages.ubuntu.com :)07:33
cartmanSeveas: cheers :)07:33
naliothmbruemmer: hang on a minute07:33
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naliothmbruemmer: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SoundProblemsHoary07:34
nJessthe restricted formats wiki thing doesn't help me at all07:34
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naliothnJess: cuz your system isn't 'seeing' the drive07:34
naliothnJess: with teh dvd in it07:34
nJessthe dvd shows up on gnome desktop07:34
naliothnJess: point to another drive in your player07:35
nJessi only hve one drive07:35
naliothnJess: i've only got one physical drive, also, but my filesystem shows 5 devices07:35
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naliothnJess: look in /media07:35
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neighborleeanyway to fix this er ror when running synaptic from : admin > synatpic ?? ::: unable to copy the users Xauthorization file07:36
neighborleelast question would be what caused this to happen ?07:36
djm62Flickaroo: if you run the speedtouchconf.sh script again, does it go online?07:36
billytwowillyhi, where do I have to put the mplayer codecs package so that mplayer will find it?07:36
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^HeMan^Hi! Anyone using mDNS?07:36
^HeMan^It works fine, but it depends on ZeroConf, is there any way to turn off ZeroConf?07:37
TiMiDodjp: can you do me a favor so i can see what's going on with synaptic do su passwd and then try running synaptic or sudo synaptic07:37
Flickaroodjm62: no it doesnt but i just read "http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26017&highlight=speedtouch+330" <-- the last post but i dont know what ppoatm is07:38
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d0rtpoint to point over atm maybe?07:38
nJessnalioth, yey, i think it might be working07:38
Flickarood0rt: only just started using Linux yesturday so how do i add it :S07:39
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Flickarood0rt: hardly know any commands07:39
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ciocaneljust changed my matrox with a intel 810, and x fails to load, can anyone give me a hint?07:39
TiMiDoadd what?07:39
FlickarooTiMiDo: ppoatm to etc/moduls07:40
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TiMiDonano /etc/modules and added ppoatm07:40
mhzhi/hola07:40
nJesshmmm07:40
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nJessnalioth, its not working07:41
TiMiDotry this ciocanel dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8607:41
nJessmplayer locked up07:41
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nJessand xine gives some error about MRL07:41
mhzi've just installed Ubuntu 5.0407:41
mhzwhat plugins i need to play mp3 and dvd?07:41
ciocanelTiMiDo, okay...07:41
FlickarooTiMiDo: so i type in the terminal "nano /etc/modukles added ppoatm" ?07:41
TiMiDonope just nano /etc/modules07:41
Flickaroook and that should add ppoatm to it?07:42
Seveasciocanel, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if you are on hoary07:42
ciocanel:-)07:42
ciocanelok, thanks.07:42
TiMiDoFlickaroo: not really nano is just an editor07:42
naliothnJess: try with another player07:42
Flickaroooh ok well i'll try again later, thanks for all your help :)07:42
naliothmhz ubotu will tell you07:42
nalioth!Restricted07:42
ubotumethinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:42
SeveasFlickaroo, the easy way to add somethin is: echo 'ppoatm' | sudo tee -a /etc/modules07:42
TiMiDoor modprobe *smiles*07:43
nJessnalioth, what is mrl?07:43
deliremedia resource locator07:43
naliothnJess: Media Resource Locator07:43
Chris`Everittdoes Ubuntu make a default 'root' user upon installation?07:43
delireno07:43
nJessperhaps that is broken?07:43
SeveasChris`Everitt: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo07:43
ngd!Root07:43
ubotuwell, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo07:43
djm62Chris`Everitt: root always exists, he just doesn't have a passwd07:43
Seveasyes, it creates the 'root' user07:43
justinnJess: how did you try and play the dvd?07:43
Seveasbut no password07:44
nJessi clicked the dvd button in xine07:44
Chris`Everittok, will check it out... thanks :)07:44
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delireSeveas: ok, yes that is the correct answer07:44
^HeMan^Yes! Just found that ZeroConf was just recommended!07:44
justinnJess: and how did you try and play the dvd with mplayer?07:44
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ngdis the GUI used on Ubuntu's XScreenSaver just a nicer XLib drawing than JWZ's default?07:44
nJessrightclick dvd --> open dvd07:45
delirenJess: were you using xine? it should work just fine. if not mplayer dvd://07:45
Seveasngd, very well possible07:45
nJessi was using xine07:45
nJessit gives an error abour MRL07:45
delirenJess: try open cdrom07:45
nJessand no plugin for dev:/07:45
nJesswhat?07:45
Seveasngd, but for breezy it will be rewritten to include a switch-user thingie07:45
delirenJess: dvd/cdrom are sometime interchangeable in xine (depending on mount points)07:46
nJesshow do i change it in xine?07:46
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delirenJess: see the preferences. you can define the dvd to be found at another location (from memory)07:47
delirethough to be sure it works at all try 'mplayer dvd://'07:47
Kurt2xUbuntu is a good operating system, but the actual philosophy of ubuntu is horrible and would lead to destruction of freedom through forced collective compliance.07:47
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djm62Kurt2x: what?!?! I think you're missing the point...07:48
nJessde;ore07:48
SeveasKurt2x, nonsense...07:48
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ccclol07:48
nJessdelire,07:48
nJess"playing DVD"07:48
delireKurt2x: freedom *is* a mutually and collectively supported state of independence.07:49
nJess"libdvdread can't stat /dev/dvd"07:49
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nJess"no such file or directory"07:49
Pianistmoin07:49
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Kurt2xI prefer libertarian philosophy07:49
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SeveasnJess, try sudo ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd (if hdc is your dvd player)07:49
Pianistgerman?07:49
nJess"couldn't open dvd device: /dev/dvd07:49
justinnJess: so sudo ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd07:49
SeveasPianist, #ububtu-de :)07:49
ngdSeveas: ok, I've been reading the xscreensaver inventors reasons for not using a GUI toolkit because it's a lot less insecure in terms of security audits and such07:49
djphow does ubuntu stand with regards stallman, gnu.org and fsf.org?07:49
Pianistthnx07:49
djm62Kurt2x: the philosophy of ubuntu doesn't include any suggestion of force...if you're referring to the position on proprietary formats...ubuntu isn't under any obligation to include them, and you remain free to install them07:49
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mbruemmerhow to get swf working07:50
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delirenJess: after doing as justin says, try xine: rightclick --> open dvd07:50
Seveasdjp read the sounder@lists.ubuntu.org archives07:50
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dim_witted_kidhello again07:50
Seveasthere are long discussions about it :)07:50
Seveasmbruemmer: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support07:50
justinngd: 'less insecure' is a double negative07:50
djm62the fact that skilled people don't set up flash and java for you is not a restriction on your freedom, I'm afraid07:50
nJessIT WORKS07:51
nJessTHANKS MUCH07:51
SeveasnJess, nice :)07:51
djpSeveas: oh excellent, will do... after giving the little one hs milk... his bottle is ready!07:51
nJessalso07:51
delirenJess: cool..07:51
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nJessno cd drives will mount under KDE07:51
ngdjustin: whoops ;-)07:51
nJessany reason why that might be?07:51
dim_witted_kidcan anyone help mo bout setting ubuntu's resolution?07:51
naliothmbruemmer: have you been to the ubuntulinux.org/wiki/   ? all that stuff is there07:51
Seveasdjm62, Ubuntu cannot legally provide these things...07:51
justinnJess: do you mean, "no audio cds will mount under kde"?07:51
Seveasdim_witted_kid: To find out ho you can change your display's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:51
nJessno07:52
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nJessi mean no data cds07:52
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justinnJess: why not?07:52
delirenJess audio cd's aren't mountable. they play07:52
dim_witted_kidthanks07:52
nJessdunno07:52
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nJessi said data cd07:52
delireah ok07:52
delirenJess: what is the error?07:52
SeveasnJess, is the cd drive listed in your /etc/fstab with the user and noauto options?07:52
justinnJess: your computer says "I won't let you mount this cd"?07:52
djm62Seveas: well, it could...it would involve expense and hassle, but ubuntu is a company, just like suse which does.  it's a choice (imo the right one).07:52
Seveasdjm62, ack07:53
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Seveasbut Ubuntu is not a company07:53
SeveasCanonical is :)07:53
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djm62ack ack ;)07:53
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nJessuh07:53
nJesssomething about fstab is in the error07:53
Seveas:)07:53
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ateveswhich window system does the ubuntu live CD provide? gnome or KDE?07:53
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SeveasnJess, can you please post your /etc/fstab to paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:54
Victushey has anyone else experienced problems with the mplayer mozilla plugin trying to view qicktime ?07:54
Seveasateves, gnome07:54
ngdateves: Gnome07:54
justinnJess: maybe if you would share with everyone else what that "something" would, they might be able to tell you why it doesn't work07:54
nJessi don't know what fstab is07:54
atevesthx07:54
Seveasmaybe there is a kubuntu livecd too07:54
nJess:/07:54
djm62ateves: normal ubuntu livecd is gnome, kubuntu provides kde07:54
SeveasnJess, /etc/fstab is a file07:54
delirenJess: fstab == file system table. this file (/etc/fstab) contains information about which filesystems (and how to mount them) you wish to use.07:54
ngdateves: I would personally recommend Gnome as a sensible desktop environment07:54
WebWizis it possible to have Ubuntu LiveCD as a terminal server to allow my laptop to Network boot into my Ubuntu box07:54
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Seveasopen it in an editor and copy the contents on paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:54
SeveasWebWiz, yes07:54
WebWizSeveas: Does it come with default LiveCD?  where i can just enable something07:55
Seveaswell, network boot depends on the laptop hardware07:55
bob2WebWiz: yes, but it's not trivial to setup07:55
nJessso07:55
Seveasbut network login is definitely possible07:55
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bob2Seveas: or an ethboot floppy07:55
foxi1hi07:55
nJessyou'd want the fstab entry for the cd device right?07:55
WebWizmy laptop bios has Network boot capability07:55
Seveasbob2, network login is fairly easy with freenx :)07:55
delirenJess: on some systems this file needs a little tweaking, but it's very easy to do so.07:55
foxi1does someone here knows a good usenetreader for gnome?07:55
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Seveasfoxi1, pan07:55
WebWizI know knoppix has it enabled in default07:55
naliothSeveas: bob2 how/where do you change the point where this looks? >>>checking build system type... powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu07:56
nJess/dev/hdc      /media/cdrom0    udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto07:56
atevesngd: what's your special reason for using gnome?07:56
atevesinteresting to me :D07:56
Seveasnalioth, looks like part of the outpuf of ./configure07:56
naliothfoxi1: pan is a good nntp reader07:56
bob2nalioth: I believe it comes from gcc07:56
foxi1ok lets have a look ...07:56
SeveasnJess, if /dev/hdc is your cdrom drive (secondary slave), this looks good07:56
bob2nalioth: you certainly don't want to change it, though07:56
nJessit is07:57
naliothSeveas: yes it is, and i'm tired of being 'unknown powerpc"  what/where to i change the line so i become whatever07:57
Seveasnjess, can you please paste your complete /etc/fstab on the pastebin07:57
nJesswhere is that?07:57
Seveashttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:57
justinSeveas: don't you think bothering to find out the exact error would be a better use of time than having him paste random things online?07:57
foxi1another question... my Notebook CPU is chaning its throttle state very often! but i cannot set it up manually how can i change the cpu scale by myself?07:57
Seveasnalioth, what's wrong with powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu..?07:57
battlecatnalioth: You've been a big help in the last few weeks. I have been asking around if there is a place to download CD images for packages. I will be going to dial up agian here soon and would perfer to not download packages when I use dialup.07:58
naliothbob2: so its ok to compile for "unknown powerpc" instead of ppc740 or whatever?07:58
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elshaahi07:58
bob2nalioth: ppc740 is not your architecture name; it might be your chip name, tho07:58
naliothbattlecat: find a friend with broadband07:58
naliothbob2: i'm just wondering why it says "unknown" when mac hardware is very well known07:58
delirejustin: he could break a convention and change "/media/cdrom0" to "/dev/cdrom" perhaps..07:59
nJessseveas check the pastebin07:59
delirejustin: i take that back07:59
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battlecatnalioth: Is that the only option? There are no repositories with ISO images to download of debian packages?07:59
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naliothbattlecat: not that i know of08:00
djpSeveas: have been through the archives but can't find a post relating to stallman? any idea when the discussion roughly took place so i can narrow my search down?08:00
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Seveasdjp, over the last days08:00
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Seveasand a few months ago08:00
naliothbattlecat: there may be (among debians 14 install cds) some source cds to be found , but i'm not sure08:00
djpSeveas: sorry, you beat me to it! just noticed a thread...08:00
nJessSeveas, i pasted fstab08:00
battlecatnalioth: Thank you. :) At least I have an answer!08:01
naliothbattlecat: and i'm also not sure if they'd be useful with ubuntu08:01
naliothbattlecat: but source is source08:01
cjsanyone installed a novatel v620 under ubuntu?08:01
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elshaaI did a mistake some hours ago : I used hdparm -Y instead of -y, so my disk (internal !) was stopped. the question is : is it a way to restart an ide disk stopped by hdparm -Y ?08:01
battlecatNalioth: Well I only use so many packages and I can simply download those i "might" use now before I go to dialup.08:01
naliothbob2: Seveas so i'm stuck compiling for "unknown-powerpc"?08:02
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Seveasdjp, thread: Why no mention of GNU?08:02
bob2nalioth: just ignore it, it doesn't mean what you think it means08:02
delireelshaa: the hdparm manpages say you need to reset the machine08:03
SeveasnJess, that all looks perfectly normal, what is the error you get?08:03
nJessi don't remember, and im not in KDE right now, h/o08:03
SeveasnJess, gdmflexiserver --xnest08:03
Seveas:)08:03
battlecatI am hoping that UBUNTU sends more free CDs since my LUG took them all! :) And I still need more.08:03
delirebattlecat: still haven't got mine yet! (2months later)08:04
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elshaadelire, hum ok. I don't remind having seen this message08:04
naliothbob2: thx08:04
elshaathanks08:04
battlecatdelire: They take a long time but well free is FREE! I mean they even pay shipping which is something I would pay even.08:04
naliothbattlecat: do you have ubuntu install parties?08:04
nJessseveas xnest isn't installed08:05
delirebattlecat: hehe yes. little complaint here.08:05
delirenJess: sudo apt-get install xnest08:05
battlecatnalioth: What I did was invited a ton of people both friends and in businesses from around the area to a meeting at our local (giant) library.08:05
nJessi know08:05
nJessi did that08:05
SeveasnJess, hmm, you should forget it anyway, nvm08:05
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Seveasit'll not work the way i thought08:05
battlecatnalioth: I demonstrated how easy UBUNTU was to install and use for FREE!08:05
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battlecatnalioth: I invited anyone who would sign up for a newletter to be welcome to take a free copy.08:06
naliothbattlecat: keep up the good work! (i need a boatload of ubuntu disks)08:06
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battlecatnalioth: Well who knows what will come of it but well I have tons of new business contacts now.08:06
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battlecatnalioth: While I have done the Windows XP cert and such I was thinking that a linux and a networking cert will be the next thing.08:07
enoxishi guys. anyone running ubuntu on a vaio by any chance?08:07
nJessheh08:08
nJesshad to reboot08:08
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Fabiangood evening08:09
FabianWhat program do I need to listen to a radio stream with a URL like that: http://radio.latehome.de:5000/listen.pls08:09
Fabian??08:09
nJessxmms should do it08:10
Fabianit doesn't....08:10
nJessopen location08:10
nJessand take the /listen.pls off the end08:10
delirebattlecat: i hear again and again there's alot more money to be made as a Linux sysadmin here in the EU than for Windows.08:10
djpTiMiDo: Failed to Seveas: seems there is some confusion between the terminology "open source" and "free software". i don't think rms likes the term "open source" used at all.08:10
delirebattlecat: quite a shortage, especially in the UK08:11
djpSeveas: seems there is some confusion between the terminology "open source" and "free software". i don't think rms likes the term "open source" used at all.08:11
justinall that is is a playlist that contains File1=http://radio.latehome.de:5000/08:11
battlecatWell my BF wants to live in North Africa08:11
deliredjp: no, he doesn't08:11
battlecatSo I am looking at the future08:11
djpapologies for the completely bodged first attempt at my stallman post!08:11
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FabiannJess, works! thanks08:11
Fabiancu08:11
delirebattlecat: hah excellent. would like to visit there.08:11
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battlecatMe 208:12
maruchanin openoffice how do i get a regular sized document. i have a weird one thats only 4 inches wide08:12
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deliremaruchan: very odd. this on first use of open office?08:13
maruchanno08:13
delires/open offce/openoffice08:13
maruchani installed the cannon i550 drivers and after this it changed08:13
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nJesshow do i improve performance of xine?08:15
deliremaruchan: hmm, no idea. perhaps look under Format --> Page08:15
nJessdvd playback is slow and choppy08:15
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stjepanhi08:15
naliothnJess: enable dms08:15
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stjepando you know how to download Eclipse IDE with apt-get?08:15
delirenJess: is it equally slow with 'mplayer dvd://'?08:15
naliothshrcrap08:15
angela20hi,i would like to run irexec with start system,how can i do it in kde08:15
nJesshow?08:15
naliothnJess: enable dma08:15
nJessdma is enabled08:16
nJesswould an ATi Rage IIc and less than 512megs of ram affect playback?08:16
lsuactiafnerrofl no08:17
naliothnJess: whats th rest of the hardware?08:17
nJessa prentium3 1000EB08:17
lsuactiafnernJess : prolly a cpu thing08:17
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naliothnJess: shouldnt have any problems at all08:17
lsuactiafneror ram issue but now your card08:17
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lsuactiafnerplayin a movie doesnt really use powerfull display card settings that i'm aware of unless you run an insane resolution08:18
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delirenJess: that card should serve perfectly well. try 'mplayer dvd://' just to be sure xine isn't bugging out for some reason.08:18
foxi1pan w'ont work, it only places all actions i do in the queue and dont start anything... no failure messages08:19
angela20anyone can help me ?08:19
nJessdelire08:19
delirefoxi1: 'apt-cache search usenet gnome'08:19
naliothfoxi1: do you give it a minute or two?08:19
nJessthe dvd isn't playing when i type that08:19
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J0elI need some help with my tv tuner card in ubuntu.08:19
eyequeuefoxi1:  are you marked as online (bottom left corner)08:20
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J0elI use Xawtv , it tunes to diff channels ..but i get only sound08:20
J0elno picture.08:20
delirenJess: ok, perhaps 'mplayer /dev/dvd'08:20
foxi1yes i am08:20
justinJ0el: try tvtime08:20
stjepanso?08:20
stjepando you know?08:20
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lsuactiafnermplayer dvd://108:20
lsuactiafner?08:20
angela20exeactly try tvtime08:21
lsuactiafnermplayer -vo help dvd://108:21
lsuactiafnerx11 is fast08:21
nJessits not a DMA issue08:21
eyequeuefoxi1: oops, wrong app.  file > work online checked?08:21
lsuactiafneror vesa from console08:21
lsuactiafnersdl is best08:21
delireJ0el: or look for different output options for Xawtv,08:21
justinum no, xv is best08:21
nJessim not even hitting 100% proc usage08:21
J0elI get an error like this before Xawtv starts >WARNING: v4l-conf is compiled without DGA support.08:21
lsuactiafnernJess : try mplayer -vo sdl dvd://108:21
lsuactiafnerform the GUI08:21
J0elCould that be the cause?08:21
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J0eljustin , i will try Tvtime.08:22
justinnJess: ruling out a dma issue is easy, hit left a few times in mplayer to have it replay the last 30 seconds or so, if that plays fine, your drive is reading too slow08:22
lsuactiafnera dvd is about 8mb/s08:22
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nJesscould it be a dirty lens?08:24
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justinnJess: try what I said08:24
holycowheh08:24
lsuactiafnercould be.08:24
nJessi did08:24
justinnJess: did that play fine?08:24
holycowi think my bozo friend found another firefox bug08:24
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lsuactiafneri didnt get the question tho08:24
nJessit did for a bit08:24
nJessnow its lagging08:24
lsuactiafnerbut mplayer -vo sdl is a good thing to try08:24
holycowgot to any website with images, hold down shift, and left click very fast on any image08:24
nJessmplayer crashes08:24
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holycowit will dissapear08:24
Andrilhello all again -08:25
AndrilSeveas, good day08:25
lsuactiafnertry -vo x1108:25
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lsuactiafnermight be your display driver in xorg.conf08:25
delirenJess: when you run 'free' how much is in the total 'Swap:' figure?08:25
Choubakax11 is slow afaik.08:25
lsuactiafneri think its his display driver in xorg.conf08:26
mbirkishi... i am currently installing ubuntu hoary 64bit... what is the difference with linux-amd64-generic and the other kernel options? in the choose kernel dialog08:26
nJesss/his/her08:26
nJessim using no swap at all08:26
delirehehe ;)08:26
albackerdoes this work guys :08:26
albackerdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted08:26
nJessusing 133megs of ram08:26
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nJessokay08:27
naliothalbacker: backports and marillat can cause problems with upgrading08:27
delirenJess: but you have a 'total' swap figure? for instance mine is 155023208:27
nJessi think the drive isn't transferring data fast enough08:27
nJessoh08:27
nJess48808:27
delirenJess: that would be dma08:27
albackernalioth,  i want them to get acroread. nothing else./08:27
nJesshow do i enable DMA?08:27
pepsihas anyone here installed a video capture card?08:28
naliothalbacker: then get acroread, and then comment them out08:28
justinfirst you verify that dma is actually not enabled for some reason08:28
nJessokay08:28
nJesshow do i do that\08:28
albackernalioth, yes :)08:28
naliothalbacker: after commenting, update your apt08:28
albackerthanks nalioth08:28
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_nate_is there a good gui frontend for dd?  I've tried looking for one to no avail08:29
SirGrokHow can I find a list of the physical locations of my cdrom drives (I am trying to configure my fstab correctly)?08:29
delirenJess: first test that direct memory access is working with 'sudo hdparm -d /dev/hdc' assuming /dev/hdc is your cdrom disk.08:29
delires/disk/drive08:29
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delirenJess: be careful with hdparm. it's not something to experiment with liberally.08:30
mariuxhi, why doesnt anything happen when i click on the "22 updates available" gnome-systray-icon08:30
_nate_SirGrok, sudo fdisk -l08:30
nJessit says its off08:30
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lsuactiafnernJess : listen to delire : i once broke a disk with hdparm08:31
nJessusing_dama = 0 (off)08:31
_nate_mariux, Start>System>Admin>Ubuntu Update Manager08:31
nJessDMA*08:31
SirGrok_nate_, that is hard drives. I am looking for my cdrom drives (well, dvd rom and dvd-rw)08:31
lsuactiafner_nate_ : a front end for dd? rofl08:31
delirenJess: try 'sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc' type that exactly08:31
mariux_nate_, nothing happens08:31
mariuxdo i need to be root?08:31
_nate_lsuactiafner, ummm, whats so funny?08:31
nJessdelire, okay08:31
nJessdone08:31
nJessnow what?08:31
_nate_lsuactiafner, I want a gui08:31
delirenJess: then try playing the dvd.08:31
lsuactiafner_nate_ : man dd and dd if=/dev/zero of=image.img bs=1M count=699 should get you off08:31
naliothmariux: don't know why. start synaptic08:31
_nate_lsuactiafner, haha, very funny08:32
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lsuactiafner_nate_ : if you use dd for anything, then you dont need a front end.. dd just aint a GUI tool08:32
lsuactiafnernever will be08:32
delirehehe08:32
albackerguys any repo for getting the lates acroread ???08:32
_nate_lsuactiafner, there is a GUI with the Helix CD08:32
_nate_lsuactiafner, I can't find one fore debian08:32
justin_nate_: a GUI to do WHAT?08:33
_nate_lsuactiafner, and I use the cl myself, but for other people I know08:33
nJessdelire08:33
nJesswill dma stay on after a reboot?08:33
_nate_justin, a GUI frontend for dd08:33
lsuactiafner_nate_ : what you need a gui for? read the man page and type the command? and what can you use dd tho that reguired a gui?08:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYis fedora like debian?08:33
mariuxroot@084202042160:~ # synaptic08:33
mariux(synaptic:30385): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:08:33
nJessChurcH_of_FoamY, not one bit08:33
delirenJess: no, you'll need to edit a file - /etc/hdparm.conf. be **VERY** careful.08:33
_nate_lsuactiafner, ....don't be a troll, I said for other people, namely those who are less linux-savvy08:33
nJessheh08:33
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: it is linux, but not like ubuntu08:34
nJessi can live with just typing the command08:34
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delirenJess: it's perfectly safe, if you do it properly. i'll help.08:34
lsuactiafner_nate_ : but for what can non-linux-savvy use dd for?08:34
mariuxhow was it i made it possible for root to run a app in a normal users X?08:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYis it harder to use then ubuntu?08:34
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nJessChurcH_of_FoamY, it depends08:34
mockermariux: sudo08:34
nJessit doesn't have apt-get08:34
_nate_lsuactiafner, backing up their HDD08:34
nJessand RPM packages are a pain in the ass08:34
_nate_lsuactiafner, I asked for a dd frontend, not for an argument08:34
spanglesontoasthow do I check if tvtime supports my card?08:34
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justinspanglesontoast: http://tvtime.sourceforge.net/08:35
lsuactiafner_nate_ : then install the one Helix CD has and i'm not argumenting, look @ freshmeat.net for a GUI08:35
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albackerhuys any repo for getting the latest acroread ??08:35
_nate_lsuactiafner, you disagree with a gui frontend, thats fine, thats enough08:35
mariuxahh, never used sudo before, just always have a root terminal ope08:35
mariux+n08:35
lsuactiafner_nate_ : and i think there are btter backup solutions.08:35
_nate_lsuactiafner, I did08:35
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naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: RPM HELL is a term inveneted for redhat based distros08:35
Heimdallhelle all !!!!08:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok08:35
Chris`EverittCan anyone tell me how I can enable Ubuntu to use my Sound Blaster Live sound card instead of my nforce onboad sound for sound?08:35
delirenJess: putting in this line first into that file "/dev/hdc {" then a new line "dma = on" then on another new line "}" will do it.08:35
lsuactiafner_nate_ : just a strange question, if you need a gui great, just wondered why08:35
concept10albacker, what acroread are you using?08:35
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ChurcH_of_FoamYbecuase a freind of mine got this game to run in fedora core 2 and i can't get it to run08:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYeven with cedega/wine08:36
_nate_lsuactiafner, yeah, I understand, I just didn't want an argument is all, I'm at work08:36
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_nate_lsuactiafner, maybe later we can duke it out :)08:36
delirenJess: the "dma = on" line needs to be indented. see the examples in that file.08:36
albackerconcept10, i dont have any at the moment. 5 is in my repo. but the last time i downloaded it. it got problems.08:36
nJessokay delire08:36
lsuactiafnerChris`Everitt : the ` in your nick aint nice.. but disable the onboard sound in your BIOS, reboot press del much and you will get into a hardware config util.08:36
concept10albacker, the latest is in the repos (version 7)08:36
popeyerayi dumped my SuSE deluxe edition for UBUNTU!!!08:36
delirenJess: that will be perfectly safe.08:36
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delirepopeyeray: hehe goody08:37
naliothChris`Everitt: disable your onboard sound card in your bios08:37
nJessi can't edit my bios08:37
nJessits messed08:37
nJessps/2 devices don't work08:37
concept10albacker, are you using hoary?08:37
battlecatDoes anyone here use Inkscape frequently?08:37
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Chris`Everittlsuactiafner, lol, can't you just hit the tab button and autocomplete my nick?  Anyway, thanks for the help durr, I should have thought of that. :)08:37
delirenJess: eek.08:37
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Seveasdjp, still there?08:37
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bphanhi guys08:38
albackerconcept10, in fact im using a ubuntu based distro. called beatrix08:38
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nJessso im using usbwireless08:38
popeyerayhere in our little Afrikan town "ubuntu" mean "milk of human kindness"!08:38
bphanI have just installed Ubantu Yeaaaaahsssss08:38
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Seveasbphan, welcome aboard08:38
delirebphan: congrats!08:38
nJessi dumped some ubuntu on my computer08:38
spanglesontoastI heard my tv card was supported for the ubuntu kernel08:38
nJess;_;08:38
spanglesontoastbut not tvtime?08:38
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Heimdallis there someone who can explain to me how I could change a icon in the Gnome menu of my ubuntu ?08:38
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justinspanglesontoast: what is "my tv card"?08:38
concept10albacker, cant help you with that.   Im not sure of compatibility.  But maybe you could add some repos and try to get it08:39
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popeyerayi tried ubuntu because of my laptops i830 stolen video memory issue08:39
albackerconcept10, give me one of yours/08:39
spanglesontoastlifeview08:39
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justinspanglesontoast: what tv card does lspci say that you have?08:39
popeyerayubuntu was able to fix the resolution on my laptop to 24 bit 1076X768!!!!08:39
mbruemmerhello the wiki wont help to fix problems with xmms and suspending the ibook g4 80008:39
bphanquick question my intel wireless pro 2200bg works flawlessly, but  how do i set the key so that I don't have to do it manually everytime it starts up08:40
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spanglesontoast0000:00:0c.0 Multimedia video controller: Fujitsu Microelectronics Ltd.: Unknown device 036e (rev 91)08:40
spanglesontoast0000:00:0c.1 Multimedia video controller: Fujitsu Microelectronics Ltd.: Unknown device 036e (rev 91)08:40
mariuxjust trying ubuntu for the first time here, i've been a gentoo and kde-user for the last year and a half08:40
naliothmbruemmer: you can give up on suspending of your powerbook for a while08:40
delirespanglesontoast: yikes.08:40
mariuxhave to say, its faster than i thought08:40
ccc\o/08:40
justinbphan: with the network settings program thing?08:40
spanglesontoast?08:40
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popeyerayi must donate some money to these fine debian fellows at ubuntu!!!08:40
mbruemmerand xmms wont work ive installed all mp3 stuff(e.g lib)08:41
Heimdallwell nobody know how to change icons of the menu ?08:41
bphanjustin: I've been doing it under supper user iwconfig08:41
concept10albacker, i will post my /etc/apt/sources.list but dont blame me if it doesnt work08:41
albackerconcept10, send it to me in prv !08:41
bphanjustin where is the network setting program?08:41
albackerno i wont blame08:41
justinbphan: well if you already know how to do that, you can just add wireless-key ..... in /etc/network/interfaces in the right place08:41
Seveasalbacker: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3808:41
nJessmbruemmer, set the audio plugin08:41
justinbphan: in the menus at the top of your screen?08:41
naliothmbruemmer: how bout rythmbox (called "music player" in the menu)08:41
hdeI just installed Ubuntu Hoary, I don't recall it ever asking for a root password and I cannot become root.08:41
Seveashde: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo08:42
cccHeimdall: search in the forums, i found it there08:42
justinhde: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+root+password08:42
Seveasthere is no root password..08:42
Heimdallccc ok I'll try08:42
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albackerSeveas, thanks08:42
nalioth!Root08:42
delirehde: root exists but a password doesn't. if you must use root then 'sudo passwd root'08:42
ubotusomebody said root was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo08:42
naliothhde: read what ubotu said08:42
SirGrokOkay, I have the physcial locations of both of my drives, and I have fstab edited correctly (I am pretty sure) and I have mounted it (sudo mount -a), but I still can not read the contents of my disc.08:42
hdeGreat thanks08:43
concept10albacker, http://pastebin.com/30231908:43
hdeI am new to the OS and I have to say I am in love.08:43
albackerthanks concept1008:43
popeyeraythere is no "root" gui login in ubuntu for your safety.08:43
delireSirGrok: is this in nautilus?08:43
SirGrokBlast. I just figured it out. I think.... This is queer.08:43
e-headhey people.08:43
spanglesontoastmines a lifeview FlyVideo II08:43
SirGrokdelire, no, it is in XFE.08:43
delireSirGrok: right.08:43
e-headi'm getting kernel panics ...08:43
deliree-head: eek. while doing what? during boot?08:44
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e-headwhen booting ... VFS can't find root ...08:44
mbruemmermp3 is playing but the sound has no volume08:44
e-headdelire: yeah.08:44
bphanjustin thaks08:44
popeyerayhere in our little Afrikan village "ubuntu" means "safety first"08:44
SirGrokdelire, I ran a manual mount command and it popped up when I went back and went looking.... Does XFE not support reading from CDROM?08:44
mbruemmerall my sound levels are raised high08:44
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e-headi'm using a kernel i compiled myself.08:44
AnguShello!08:44
deliree-head: sounds like /boot/menu.lst has a bad entry.08:44
AnguSi want apt to use a proxy server... where do i configure that?08:44
Sevease-head, don't forget to make an initrd then...08:44
delireSirGrok: i don't use this XFE.08:44
e-headi compiled ext2/3 support INTO the kernel.08:44
Sevease-head, you might need more08:44
e-headSeveas: i wan't to avoid using a initrd if i can.08:44
SirGrokdelire, alright. I will figure some stuff out.08:45
Seveaslike IDE...08:45
e-headahh ...08:45
mbruemmerb ut the sound is  not hearable untill i rest my head very close to the ibook speaker08:45
deliree-head: BLCK_IDE from memory08:45
Seveasor whatever you might need :)08:45
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SirGrokWhat is everyone's favorite file manager (that isn't window manager specific)?08:45
e-headSeveas: thanks. I tried to do it fast instead of going through all the pages in menuconfig.08:45
lsuactiafnere-head : basically i think you didnt compile support for your disks into the kernel08:45
e-headi guess i'll have to take a closer look.08:45
SeveasSirGrok, mc :)08:45
justinSirGrok: zsh08:45
lsuactiafnere-head : or some archane option08:45
e-headthanks for the tip guys.08:45
Sevease-head, good luck08:45
e-headyeah.08:46
mbruemmerok alsa mixer pci output1 was not raised08:46
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deliree-head: make sure you have 'CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y' in .config08:46
e-headlook at that ... almost all ATA stuff is modules.08:46
e-headthat's probably it.08:46
popeyeraymy SuSE 9.3 gave me a "can't find sda? kernel panick!" so i trashed it for ubuntu!08:46
mbruemmernow ive got sound at all08:46
naliothSirGrok: try krusader (mc via kde)08:46
spanglesontoastwhat's bttv?08:46
J0elhow do i specify gui display options in grub?08:47
mbruemmerwhat is going on with flash on ppc08:47
lsuactiafnere-head : take a .config from the ubuntu kernel or something, then for each submenu disable what you dont need08:47
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bphanjustin: I do see the networks setting program to set my WEP Key, but how do I specify that it's 64 bits Key 1?08:47
lsuactiafnere-head : leave what you dont know what it is08:47
naliothmbruemmer: you have no flash on ppc08:47
popeyerayi have fedora core 4, suse, even xandros! but these ubuntu village people have outdone themselves!08:47
delirelsuactiafner: hehe.. hmmm08:47
J0ellike vga= ..?08:47
cccHeimdall: ah, all you need to do is overwrite /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png with the new icon.08:47
Seveasmbruemmer, flash on linux ppc is quite impossible08:47
naliothmbruemmer: its a commercial offering for x86 only08:47
justinbphan: no idea... you do realize that a 64bit wep key is completely useless, right?08:47
SirGroknalioth, I don't understand "mc via kde" line... I think if I did, some of my problems could be fixed (I don't run KDE but whenever I load a KDE based app it goes berzerkers)08:47
lsuactiafnere-head : then as you get xperience you can do as you please and play withthings you dont know about08:47
mbruemmercan musik player read itunes plists08:48
mbruemmer??08:48
delireJ0el: that is for setting text size during boot et al. not background graphics etc.08:48
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naliothSirGrok: krusader is "midnight commander" as presented by kdelibs08:48
popeyerayi must donate some funds to ubuntu to help keep there servers strong!!!08:48
Seveaspopeyeray, see the ubuntu homepage for a donation link :)08:48
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delirembruemmer: gtkpod and amarok can ISTR.08:48
naliothmbruemmer: m3u files are m3u files08:48
naliothmbruemmer: you will need extra libs to play aac and mp4 audio08:49
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e-headdamn fellas ... i have like 50 mudules loaded !08:49
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nost2hightroom ubuntu in spanish???08:49
TwiggyHas anybody here setup their gnome to render with cairo?08:49
e-headi just did a lsmod.08:49
TwiggyI have the libs installed, I dunno how to tell it to start using it though08:49
bphanjustin: I do but then stil better than nothing..08:49
deliree-head: yikes.08:49
Seveasnost2hight, va en #ubuntu-es por espaol08:49
e-headi guess it needs them all.08:49
nost2hightthank seveas08:49
e-headi think "older" distros used to compile more straight into the kernel is all08:49
Sevease-head, sed -e 's/=m/=y/' -i .config08:50
Seveas:)08:50
delirehehe ouch08:50
deliremonolithic08:50
bphanjustin: I have MAC protectino and all that, and yes I know airsnot and detect all that but then.. what do you prefer?08:50
Sevease-head, the all-in-the kernel approach is archaic08:50
e-headare you serious Seveas ? that's awesome.08:50
deliree-head: man that kernel will be very annoying to run.08:50
bphanjustin: is  128 encryption is better? or WPA?08:50
e-headi was wondering if there was a way to map modules straight to the .config file08:50
Sevease-head, DO NOT so that, i was joking08:51
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e-headSeveas: i know it's archaic ... but there are "odd" reasons to want one.08:51
Seveasputting all modules directly in the kernel is a bad idea08:51
Sevease-head, agreed08:51
e-headactually, that is really what i need to do ... for "odd" reasons.08:51
Seveasbut initrd's solve that problem for most users08:51
fang77   Hello akk08:51
fang77alll08:51
J0eldelire,  I need to specify which display mode should ubuntu start in , can i specify it through grub?08:51
justinbphan: 128 is slightly better, wpa has problems too.. running something like openvpn on top of wireless is even better08:51
fang77I mean08:51
fang77heheh08:51
SeveasJ0el, what do you mean with 'display mode'?08:52
fang77Anyone had luck with compositing on an ATI bard?08:52
e-headHey guys ... how can all these modules FIT on an initrd ?08:52
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mcalCan I perform a network installation (machine does not have CD drive) with ubuntu?08:52
Sevease-head, they don't08:52
e-heador do they only put the "necessary" ones on there ? Like for the Filesystem, IDE, etc ... ?08:52
Seveasonly the neccessary modules are on the initrd08:52
e-head:)08:52
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fang77Kinda buggy08:53
Seveasfang: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto08:53
deliree-head: you do need that CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y08:53
deliree-head: else you will have kernel panics08:53
Seveasmcal it has been reported to be possible08:53
Seveasmcal, search the wiki :)08:53
fang77My drivers are configured and it works fine with games and all.08:53
fang77Compositing is a different story.08:53
Seveasfang77, yeah08:53
e-headdelire: that's what I would like too ...08:53
Seveasthat's buggy08:53
mcalSeveas: Thank you!...I will do so.08:54
deliree-head: from there one could work with macro defatults like 'Server' or 'Multimedia' etc.08:54
fang77looks pretty though.08:54
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deliree-head: adding stuff like iptables or support for usb-audio support depending.08:55
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deliree-head: from _there_ i could be culled.08:55
fang77I have a rather stupid question.08:55
fang77How do I start freeciv for single player???08:55
fang77Do I need to log on a server?08:55
TwiggyAnybody here using breezy?08:56
SeveasTwiggy, read the topic :)08:56
delirecat topic > /dev/channel08:56
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naliothTwiggy: most of us are not early-adopters08:56
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TwiggySeveas: Ah, thankya ;oD08:56
Twiggynalioth: Aye, but some people are braver than others :oD08:56
Seveasnalioth, not so much a case of early adoption but of sanity :)08:56
Seveasbreezy is still too unstable08:56
davidubuI'm a new ubuntu user.  I'm running hoary with kernel 2.6.10-5-386.  the kernel source package is not available for any 2.6 kernel, only 2.4.27.  do I need to add an additional line in /etc/apt/sources.list08:56
anacroncan i get something for anti-aliasing or filtering my videofiles so that when i run them in fullscreen they don't look crappy?08:57
parabolizefang77: http://www.freeciv.org/index.php/FAQ#OK.2C_so_I_installed_Freeciv.__How_do_I_play.3F08:57
fang77Not yet. Need a stable box for my network08:57
e-headwhat filesystem type is used on these initrd ?08:57
davidubuI'm installing vmware and it needs to know the location of my C header files08:57
fang77Thanks parabolize!!!08:57
parabolizenoproblem08:57
Seveasdavidubu, first of all it's linux source, and second of all: you probably want linux-headers-$(uname -r) for whatever you need08:57
Seveasdavidubu, what are you trying to accomplish?08:57
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naliothSeveas: whats the diff tween the source at kernel.org and ubuntu kernel source?08:57
CarlKI am trying to connect to a wifi ap that uses a wep key: Network Settings, Interface Properties - pick the ESSID from the list, enter the wep key, pick DHCP, hit OK, I see "Activating interface eth1" for about 60 seconds, then it goes away.  ifconfig doesn't show an IP08:57
e-headnalioth: they have the patches if you apt-cache search ...08:58
davidubuSeveas correct, I need one of those packages.  thanks08:58
delirenalioth: ubuntu source 'has many other patches et al.08:58
Seveasnalioth, the debian/ubuntu patches and of course the nice deb buildsystem to create packages08:58
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justinCarlK: is the wep key the long hex string, or just a passphrase?08:58
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CarlKjustin - I am entering a passphrase08:58
Seveasdavidubu, usually you wouldn't even need the headers too, a lot of drivers are shipped with ubuntu08:58
bphanjustin: that's new information I didnt know thanks08:58
justinCarlK: try entering it as s:passphrase instead of passphrase, I think that works08:58
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e-headanyone know the initrd filesystem type ?08:59
cabajgtrCan anybody answer a stupid shell scripting question?08:59
justine-head: why?08:59
CarlKjustin - um, huh?  guessing you mean enter it as a hex string?08:59
Seveascabajgtr, just ask :)08:59
cabajgtrIs there a way to convert date formats?08:59
_paxanyone uses kxdocker?08:59
CarlKis there a string to hex converter util?08:59
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davidubuSeveas I'm installing vmware and it needs to compile a module08:59
cabajgtrI'm trying to write a script to purge backups08:59
e-headjustin: i want to take a look at what's on it ...08:59
justinCarlK: no, just put 's:' before the passphrase08:59
ivanoxwth, I enabled the microphone, and now I got this "cracking" noise at the end of every sound ??08:59
delirecabajgtr: using substitution or just date? date has several formatting options09:00
Seveasdavidubu, yeah, linux-headers-$(uname -r) should work then :)09:00
e-headit's cramfs btw .... i just tried the likely candidates.09:00
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CarlKjustin - ah missed that09:00
Seveascabajgtr, of course09:00
davidubuSeveas thanks09:00
cabajgtrI have data in year/month/day/contents09:00
dataw0lf|wcabajgtr: man date09:00
fang77How do I change the language?09:01
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Seveasfang77, language of what?09:01
cabajgtrand I want to say delete data from every moday-thusday more than a month old09:01
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fang77Gnome09:01
Seveasfang77, dpkg-reconfigure locales09:01
rekai can't seem to unrar an archive, even though 'file' tells me it is a v1d archive, albeit in Win32 form.  should i try out the nonfree unrar? (what's the difference anyway ... besides it being labelled nonfree ... how am i supposed to pay anyway? o_O)09:01
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fang77thanks!09:01
mbirkishow come i can't change network settings in ubuntu? i can't get past the password dialog :(09:01
CarlKjustin - any chance you know the config file/command  line way to do this?09:02
rekambirkis: : did you enter your password?09:02
cabajgtrso is there a function to figure out what day of the week 45 days ago was?09:02
naliothreka: i use unrar-nonfree and have had 0 problems09:02
mbirkisreka: yes09:02
Seveasreka, try unrar-nonfree indeed09:02
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justinCarlK: just iwconfig eth1 key s:password or whatever09:02
Seveasmbirkis, *your* password,not the root password..?09:02
rekanalioth, Seveas: so why is it called nonfree?09:02
Seveasreka, because it's binary only09:02
rekaam i supposed to pay or something?09:03
justinCarlK: adding wireless-key to /etc/network/interfaces works too09:03
CarlKjustin - thanks09:03
rekaSeveas: ah, thanks09:03
mbirkisSeveas: root password09:03
Seveasit's free as in you don't pay, but it's not free software as in FSF free or open source09:03
Seveasmbirkis, you never need a root password in these things09:03
Seveassudo/gksudo wants *YOUR* password09:03
Seveasmbirkis: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo09:03
mbirkisSeveas: hmm... ok will try09:03
mbirkisSeveas: with my password i get "Child terminated with 1 status"09:04
Seveasmbirkis, then you do something odd..09:04
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Seveastry sudo network-admin in a terminal and see what happens09:04
naliothreka: cuz it' not open source?09:05
rekanalioth, Seveas: nonfree worked, thanks.09:05
rekanalioth: yeah, lousy multiple definitions of free09:05
reka...09:05
mbirkisSeveas: i am missing in the sudoers file... will go sort it09:05
naliothreka: how many decompressors do you have on your system?09:05
Seveasmbirkis, add your user to the admin group then :)09:06
mbirkisSeveas: is that the same?09:06
Seveasreka, that's the inherent ambiguity of human language :)09:06
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Seveasmbirkis, the admin group should be in the sudoers file09:06
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valtsu2anyone from finland?09:07
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cccalmost09:07
valtsu2anyone from scandinavia?09:07
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cccsweden09:07
Flying-Penguinexcuse me... I am kinda new to linux. but I am brand new to ubuntu and I am trying to install ati drivers, I have just installed the drivers and rebooted so I desided to try glxgears to see if it worked and I got this in return09:08
Flying-Penguin] Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:08
Flying-Penguinglxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.09:08
delirereka: 'free' in a free software context means 'free to distribute and manipulate'09:08
kong0can anyone copy their etc/apt/sources.list and PM it to me? pls would help alot09:08
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delireFlying-Penguin: was that as root?09:08
SeveasFlying-Penguin, you must edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf too09:08
naliothkong0: ask Seveas for the 'safe and sane' sources.list URL09:08
SeveasFlying-Penguin: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto09:08
valtsu2Linux:Be Root - Windows:Reboot09:08
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kong0someone who has a working universe&multiverse09:08
Flying-PenguinSeveas, I did flgrxconfig it edits /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:09
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Flying-Penguinyes it was delire09:09
Flying-PenguinSeveas, I will check that webstie out thatnk you09:09
delireFlying-Penguin: that's why it didn't work.09:09
valtsu2where are u from? i am from finland!09:09
SeveasFlying-Penguin, you should run graphical stuff as you09:09
kong0seveas: i am wondering if you could help me out...09:09
Seveasnot as root09:09
Flying-Penguindelire: I tryed it as non root as well...09:09
Seveaskong0, that depends on the problem :)09:10
justinFlying-Penguin: eh, you didn't want run run flgrxconfig, all you had to do was change one word in xorg.conf09:10
delireFlying-Penguin: oh.. what are you trying to do? you don't have direct rendering on an ATI card using the proprietary drivers?09:10
valtsu2must to go!!Linux rules09:10
SeveasFlying-Penguin, have you restarted the X server after editing xorg.conf?09:10
valtsu2oh!09:10
rekanalioth: file-roller and unrar.  any reason why?09:10
kong0i need your universe multiverse script in your sources.list...plz09:10
Flying-Penguinyes Seveas I restarted...09:10
naliothreka: file-roller is front-end09:10
Seveaskong0: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3809:10
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rekanalioth: i avoid rar files anyway.  just this time i needed it and the file only came in .rar format09:10
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naliothreka: how bout unace, 7zip, and all those?09:11
rekanalioth: well i don't know then .. there's gzip, bzip ...09:11
Seveasreka, you also have bzip2, compress and gzip :)09:11
HappyFoolhello all09:11
kong0ok thx09:11
Flying-Penguindelire: I am trying to install ati drivers and I wanted to check by runing glxgears09:11
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valtsu2Linux User:Unix rules - Windows User:Unwise words - Macintosh User:Sure isn't Macho09:11
rekanalioth: that's a trick question isn't it?09:11
delireFlying-Penguin: try 'glxinfo | grep direct'09:11
valtsu2those was anagrams!!09:11
naliothreka: ya never know when you're gonna come across something ace'd up09:11
naliothreka: and 7zip is becoming popular, also09:12
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rekanalioth: i doubt it.  that's the first time i heard of the ace format09:12
Seveas7zip has patent issues, hasn't it?09:12
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nalioth7zip is GPL09:12
Seveask09:12
CarlKman iwconfig "passphrase is currently not supported."  what is the difference between passphrase and a string?09:12
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Seveaspassphrase is a phrase used to create wep keys09:12
delireFlying-Penguin: no need to msg me ;) just give me the output of the command i gave you above.09:13
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Seveasstring is a special format for a wep key09:13
Flying-Penguinthat is the out put delire it was to big to put in here...09:13
SeveasFlying-Penguin, put it on a pastebin then :)09:13
Flying-Penguinok...09:13
delireFlying-Penguin: 'glxinfo | grep direct'09:13
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samuelsup all09:14
delireFlying-Penguin: not 'glxgears'09:14
mariuxcan someone give me a url to a good respository for 3rd party stuff? Mostly miss mplayer...09:14
mbirkisis there a place i can add the "hoary cd" as a repo instead of using the cd?09:14
samuelanyone here have any recomendations on email programs?09:14
Seveasmariux, mplayer is in multiverse09:14
Flying-Penguindelire: sorry glxgears was the top line but then I ran glxinfo... but I didn't put it together09:14
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kong0seveas that site u gave me was really good thx for your help09:14
samuelevolution does not have good support for syncing imap and local folders i find...09:14
mbirkiserr finding a online replacement for the hoary cd i meen09:15
Seveasmbirkis, the hoary repositories :)09:15
Seveassamuel, thunderbird and mutt are used quite a lot09:15
mbirkisSeveas: but i removed the cd from the repo list and now i can't find the nfs-common package :(09:15
Flying-Penguindelire: pastebin isn't working right now... and I forgot the other site. so is it ok if I wisper spam you?09:16
Seveasmbirkis add the network repositories09:16
Seveasmbirkis: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto09:16
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Seveasmbirkis: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3809:16
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mbirkisSeveas: thanx09:16
Heimdallhey, could someone tell me where I could find the python-xdg 0.14 or higher; package proposed on htt://packages.ubuntu.com is lony 0.9-109:16
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CarlKother than waiting for dhclient to time out, is there some way to see if the ESSID/WEP is right?09:16
delireFlying-Penguin: sure.. though back in 2 minutes. it's likely i can help here.09:16
Heimdallthanks09:16
Flying-Penguindelire: I sent it to you.09:17
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samuelSeveas, i quite like both of them... but i would like to continue with evolution since it fits in quite nicely with palms... any ideas on how to get it to sync properly?09:18
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Seveassamuel, no idea, I don't use IMAP09:21
samuelSeveas, thx09:21
delireFlying-Penguin: hmm didn't get it. can you msg it to me line by line?09:21
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kruegerHello09:23
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parabolizehello09:24
Seveasolleh09:24
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kruegerWhat's up ?09:24
kong0_i cant install w32codecs...09:24
TokenBadI just tried to configure a program in linux and says needs zlib09:24
kong0_thats very strange09:25
TokenBadcan install that through apt-get?09:25
kong0_since mplayer worked09:25
delireTokenBad: to compile a program?09:25
TokenBadchecking for deflateInit_ in -lz... no09:25
TokenBadconfigure: error: zlib is required.09:25
delireTokenBad: you probably need libzlib-dev09:25
TokenBadthats what I got09:25
delireTokenBad: these include header files for use in the compilation process.09:25
Seveaskong0, w32codecs is only in marillat/backports09:25
delireTokenBad: apt-cache search zlib dev09:25
e-headhey guys ...09:26
kruegerhey09:26
delireTokenBad: select the most recent version and install it.09:26
kong0_i have multiverse universe09:26
Tomcat_What library package do I need when a program's ./configure asks for "GL libs"? (I want to compile "gravit", a gravity simulator)09:26
e-headwhat's the synergy between /etc/modprobe.d/ and /etc/modules.conf ?09:26
naliothkong0_: you can go to www.mplayerhq.hu  for the w32 codecs09:26
delireTomcat_: apt-cache search opengl dev09:26
^thehatsrule^Tomcat_: those are opengl libraries?09:26
Sevease-head, modules.conf is deprecated iirc...09:26
e-headmodprobe seems to use an insane # of config files.09:26
e-headthat's it then ? basically modprobe.d/ is the "new" way of doing what was done in modules.conf ?09:27
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HappyFool/etc/modules is different to /etc/modprobe.conf09:27
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Seveas... which is again different from /etc/modules.conf :)09:27
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Sevease-head, read the manpage for modprobe09:27
TokenBadchecking for png_write_image in -lpng... no09:27
TokenBadconfigure: error: The png library is required.09:27
kong0_oh my god....i cant get w32codecs09:27
TokenBadgot this now09:27
kong0_they have patent!09:28
kruegerwhich music player is you favorit ? etc. xmms..09:28
Tomcat_^thehatsrule^: Most probably, but there are a hundred packages that say something about gl libs (mesa for example, got them all installed now)09:28
naliothkong0_: you can go to www.mplayerhq.hu  for the w32 codecs09:29
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kong0_no09:29
delireTokenBad: you now need libpng-dev or similar09:29
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rekadelire: dammit.  i always installed the mesa*-dev and some other x*-dev packages when i was creating opengl programs.  so there is an opengl dev package thta has all the Gl/GLUT libraries?09:29
delireTokenBad: compiling software always requires the 'header' or development files of other software.09:29
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e-headSeveas: i read all that stuff and still can't figure it out.  :)09:29
SeveasTokenBad, waht are you trying to install?09:29
reka*GL/GLUT09:29
delirereka: libglut3-dev09:29
TokenBadyeah figure that...09:29
mbirkisubuntu was really nice :) nice job folks!09:30
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Flying-Penguinhey delire sorry abought beeing afk09:30
delirereka: for the mesa stuff xlibmesa-gl-dev09:30
e-headmodprobe manpage makes no mention of /etc/modules.conf ... to add to the confusion there is a modprobe.conf file too.09:30
MajestiKI just finished a Ubuntu install, and I don't remember if I entered a root password, but the ones I've tried, which are the ones that I think I'd have used don't work.. is that "normal" ?09:30
Flying-Penguinare you still there delire?09:30
SeveasMajestiK: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:30
delireFlying-Penguin: yes, msg me the output of glxinfo | grep direct09:30
e-headi think maybe it uses both ... the whole thing is sort of a mess to be honest.09:30
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delireFlying-Penguin: line by line (avoid flooding)09:30
TokenBadSeveas, flam3-2.6b2...its for apophysis09:30
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deliree-head: same on any platform. try it in windows.09:30
mariuxwhat do i have to add to my system to play mp3s in rhythmbox?09:30
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TokenBadchecking for XML_ParserCreate in -lexpat... no09:31
TokenBadconfigure: error: The expat xml library is required.09:31
TokenBadnow gave that error09:31
SeveasTokenBad, hmm, does it have a readme file that says which libraries it needs?09:31
kong0_what codec do i need to play .avi files?09:31
kruegeryou need the gstreamer 0.8 mad in universe i guess09:31
naliothmariux: see what ubotu says09:31
nalioth!Restricted09:31
uboturestricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:31
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mariuxahh, a bot :)09:31
SeveasTokenBad, libexpat1-dev09:31
naliothkong0_: you can go to www.mplayerhq.hu  for the w32 codecs (get the "essential package"09:31
Flying-Penguinactuly delire how bought joining #flood???09:31
HappyFoole-head: http://www.netadmintools.com/html/modules.conf.man.html09:31
Seveasmariux, basically: you need gstreamer0.8-mad09:32
TokenBadok how you figure out the package name09:32
TokenBadso can do it myself?09:32
delireTokenBad: 'apt-cache search expat dev' the '-l' signifies the library it's trying to find against during compile.09:32
kong0_nalioth i cant install manually i need to do it in the terminal i dont know how...09:32
SeveasTokenBad, in this case i tried: apt-cache search expat | grep dev09:32
e-headthanks HappyFool09:32
TokenBadoh..09:32
HappyFoole-head: also, strings $(which modprobe)|grep /etc/modules.conf -- so despite its absence on the ubuntu man-page, it evidently isn't forgotten09:32
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TokenBadanother error09:33
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TokenBadchecking for jpeg_start_compress in -ljpeg... no09:33
TokenBadconfigure: error: The jpeg library is required.09:33
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HappyFoolTokenBad: have you tried using apt-cache search ?09:33
naliothkong0_: you can do it using your favorite file manager09:33
HappyFoolTokenBad: instead of asking us each time ?09:33
SeveasTokenBad, libjpeg-mmx-dev09:33
e-headstrings $(which modprobe)|grep /etc/modules.conf09:33
e-headwhoops09:33
Seveasor libjpeg62-dev09:33
delireTokenBad: this output is giving you clues as to what you need to compile this software (and alot of other software) on your machine. learn to read these cues and install the related libraries.09:33
kong0_nalioth, that page u gave me was a patent propagande page where i couldnt find any mirrors...09:34
kong0_i dont have any file manager09:34
naliothkong0_: at the bottom, it says "click here to continue"09:34
SeveasTokenBad, if it says missing library foo, use apt-cache search libfoo | grep dev to find out what you need09:34
kong0_i installed this os this afternoon09:34
naliothkong0_: nautilus, konqueror, xffm4, mc are all file managers09:34
TokenBadok when I do search I don't find the files you guys list09:34
TokenBadfor example I got this instead09:34
delireTokenBad: compiling software is non-trivial on any platform.09:34
kong0_ok09:34
mbirkishow do i get the nautilus completely spatial in ubuntu?09:34
e-headbut ... so, does modprobe read /etc/modules.conf, then /etc/modprobe.conf, them /etc/modprobe.d/ ? it's still confusing ...09:34
TokenBadlibjpeg-mmx-progs - Programs for manipulating jpeg files using mmx optimization09:35
TokenBadsee thats what I got when searched09:35
SeveasTokenBad, that's why you do | grep dev09:35
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SeveasTokenBad, if it says missing library foo, use `apt-cache search libfoo | grep dev` to find out what you need09:35
snikerhi, someone can help me with the timeout 1.11-6 package for amd64, i've some errors when i compile it...09:35
HappyFoole-head: hard to tell. why not just stick with /etc/modprobe.d/09:35
TokenBadok09:35
delireTokenBad: the development files you need there is libjpeg62-dev. i found this by using the exact command based on your error that Seveas provided you.09:36
HappyFoole-head: if you *really* want to know, once can always get the source for modprobe ;) no need to reverse engineer09:36
thechitowncubshttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43058  (anyone want to contribute to that script to get it to work for totem), its probably really easy09:36
e-head:) true09:36
e-headI found this:09:36
e-head/etc/modules.conf: used with 2.4 series kernels.09:36
e-head/etc/modprobe.conf: used with 2.6 series kernels.09:36
kong0_how do i open them? should i start nautilus or smething?09:36
Sevease-head, ubuntu uses 2.609:37
deliree-head: the 2.6.* range of kernels use module-init-tools, a different system and this resources this file.09:37
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naliothkong0_: they should open with file-roller or right click on the file in nautilus09:37
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kong0_i get the archive something09:37
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Flickiehi need help with a speedtouch 330 modem :(09:38
Flickiegot it working once but now it doesnt seem to want to work09:38
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kong0_what is nautilus? how do i open it?09:39
e-headalright ... this makes sense now. timestamps show /etc/modules.conf hasn't been touched since install. modprobe.d/ was touched last kernel compile09:39
TiMiDokong0_: open what?09:39
TiMiDoFlickie: usb?09:39
delirekong0_: is it the gnome/linux equivalent of windows explorer (for instance.. and more).09:39
FlickieTiMiDo: Yep09:39
e-headso ... out with /etc/modules.conf ... in with /etc/modprobe.d/ !09:39
kong0_nautilus09:39
kong0_well i cnat find it09:39
delirekong0_: click on any folder09:39
TiMiDoFlickie: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/speedtouch/09:40
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delirekong0_: at that point you are using nautilus.09:40
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TiMiDokong0_: find what?09:40
Stephenhey09:40
kong0_i really need to learn how the hell i install tar files...09:40
TiMiDohello Stephen09:40
delireTiMiDo: he is looking for nautilus09:40
^thehatsrule^lo09:40
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ataqhey09:40
TiMiDodo whereis nautilus kong0_09:41
Stephendoes the GDM version in Hoary support "early-login" like GDM in Fedora Core 4?09:41
^thehatsrule^kong0_: to extract, use tar zxvf file.tar.gz09:41
kong0_i understand that but i still cant install them by just clicking on them09:41
delirekong0_: tar files (tarballs) are archives, like *.zip files.09:41
SeveasStephen, 'early login'?09:41
ataqWould anyone recommend FC3 over Ubuntu09:41
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FlickieTiMiDo: which one should i get?09:41
kong0_i know09:41
Seveasyou mean automatic login?09:41
delirekong0_: they predate the *.zip format.09:41
naliothkong0_: Appications > System Tools > File Manager09:41
Seveasataq, no :)09:41
kong0_but the files in them is what i need09:41
TiMiDoFlickie: try looking around,09:41
Stephenit says its GDM 2.6+ which Hoary has, but I can't find instructions on activating it in anything other than fedora09:41
kong0_to install09:41
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Stephennah Seveas09:41
naliothataq: if you ara a masochist, go ahead with fc309:41
delirekong0_: the can contain anything, not necessarily installable software09:41
TiMiDokong0_: apt-cache search nautilus09:41
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kab00mhi folks09:41
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`psychohi ppl09:42
`psycho:)09:42
delireTiMiDo: he wants to use nautilus09:42
rekaStephen: dunno.  but it's supposed to be faster than warty's.09:42
ataqits just I am having problems on Ubuntu09:42
Seveasataq, if you per se want fc, use fc409:42
amonkeyataq, i'd reccomend it over FC2, fedora is really slow in my expierence09:42
Stephenearly login, its a feature which means GDM comes up as soon as possible09:42
Seveasbut Ubuntu is way better :)09:42
SeveasStephen, ah ok09:42
`psychoanyone had a problem with dbus-daemon-1 ?09:42
unrealheh09:42
Seveasthey're working on that09:42
Flying-PenguinOK I am back...09:42
Stepheni.e. as core servers are loading09:42
kong0_open failed...09:42
Stephen*loaded09:42
`psychoi get the issus it starts using my cpu 100%09:42
TiMiDokong0_: what does it come up when you do whereis nautilus ?09:42
`psycho:S09:42
kab00mwhat is the best and fastest way to install ubuntu on 40 computers at the same time?09:42
ataqYe're right I'd say09:42
delireFlying-Penguin: msg me for assistance getting hardware accelleration for your ATI09:42
Stephenrather than waiting for the likes of apache, sendmail etc which aren't needed for login09:42
Flickiedoes Ubuntu support Hyper threading?09:42
Seveaskab00m, have 40 cd's :)09:42
naliothFlickie: yes09:43
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SeveasFlickie, yes, but it is disabled by default since there is a design bug in the hyperthreading technology09:43
Flickieoooh ok how do i enavle it?09:43
Seveasyou will need to enable it with the ht=on kernel argument09:43
kong0_OPEN FAILED...really irritated on the unnecesarily complex extracting....09:43
Seveas(might be ht=yes)09:43
Flickieok ok brb09:43
naliothFlickie: with an SMP kernel09:43
naliothor what seveas said09:43
SeveasFlickie, search the USN archives :)09:43
kab00mSeveas: is there a way without the need of burning 40 cds?09:43
Flickiejust need to get my modem workin :(09:43
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ataqwhats Gnomes Control Panel for graphics card config?09:44
kong0_ok new and more important question09:44
naliothkong0_: there is a bit of a learning curve to linux09:44
Seveaskab00m, there is work in progress on netinstalls09:44
TiMiDoFlickie: do lspci and see if the modem comes up09:44
Flickiebrb09:44
kong0_how do i get totem-xine?09:44
Flickieok09:44
naliothkong0_: use synaptic09:44
`psychoum, dbus-daemon-1 uses 100% cpu09:44
`psychoHELP?09:44
`psychoo.o09:44
Seveaskab00m, you can find success stories about netinstalls on the wiki09:44
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kong0_i cant find it there09:44
Flickieits not pci tho its usb09:44
kong0_its gone09:44
Seveas`psycho, does it happen all the time?09:44
kab00mSeveas: ok, thank you very much :)09:44
kong0_like ive havent installed multiverse wich i have09:44
TiMiDoit may come up09:44
naliothkong0_: have you hit the 'reload' button at the top left?09:44
kong0_heh no09:45
HappyFooltotem-xine is in universe09:45
`psychoit's connected with NX remote...a user connects with NX and all of the sudden bus flips out09:45
`psycho:X09:45
TiMiDospeedtouch - userspace driver for the Alcatel Speedtouch USB ADSL Adapter09:45
Seveas`psycho, ouch09:45
TiMiDothat's what i get with apt-cache search speedtouch09:45
`psychoum?09:45
SeveasI'll investigate on that09:45
kong0_alright thx reaload worked09:45
Flickieok ok well im going to try now09:45
Flickiebrb09:45
`psychoplease do09:45
kong0_i feel im getting more happy09:45
`psychoumm would it help if i give remote to my pc right now?09:46
`psychocos its happening right now09:46
`psychoit's stuck somewhere in a loop09:46
`psycho:X09:46
nalioth`psycho: got any good tv on your pc now?09:46
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`psychotv?09:46
`psychohuh?09:46
`psychotv card?09:46
nalioth`psycho: sorry, you offered 'remote to your pc'09:46
kong0_i dont think i need w32codecs i skipp that part09:46
`psychoLMAO09:47
nalioth`psycho: my attempt at humor failed09:47
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`psychoahahaha09:47
ivolooserhi together09:47
ivolooseri try to install wlan on my notebook09:47
`psychoi meant ssh09:47
`psycho:P09:47
TiMiDoalright09:47
fetmananybody here who have played with lirc?09:47
Seveas`psycho, does it happen all the time when you use nx?09:47
kong0_sry all the great helpers im just to neewbie on linux09:47
TiMiDo`psycho: don't is always good to read09:47
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ivoloosereverything works fine but i lost my lo device09:47
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kong0_how might i install java?09:47
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`psychoseveas, umm most the time when some other user connects..not for me09:48
TiMiDoivolooser: what kernel?09:48
`psychobut very foter definitely09:48
ivolooseri think on the console try apt-get install java09:48
X3Nyes it is Flying-Penguin09:48
Seveasfoter..?09:48
`psychothen i kill dbuss and it's ok again09:48
`psycho:X09:48
TiMiDonaw java isn't a packaged09:48
nalioth!Java09:48
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java09:48
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`psycho*often sry not foter09:48
`psychoxD09:48
Seveas`psycho, try dbus-monitor to see what happens09:49
HappyFoolthat bot has way too much attitude09:49
ivolooserkernel: 2.6.10-509:49
`psychorun?09:49
naliothkong0_: ubotu said the answer09:49
tahooiekong0_, if you go to www.java.com it has instructions. They worked for me.09:49
TiMiDohttp://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp09:49
SeveasTiMiDo, please stop giving people bad advise...09:49
TiMiDooh ok sorry Seveas (:09:49
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_pax!kxdocker09:49
ubotu_pax: I haven't a clue09:49
kong0_ok thx09:49
mbruemmerhow to set up rosengarden 4 (audio and sequencer) it woll not run on my ibook g409:49
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Flying-PenguinX3N: I thought you used FC09:50
X3Ni use many distros09:50
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Seveaskong0_, the short version of the java-install-howto isL09:51
tahooiekong0_, click on manual download, then 'instructions' next to the one you watn.09:51
CarlK_once I have used iwconfig to set essid/wep, how can I test to see if the AP likes my settings? (other than waiting for dhcp to time out)09:51
Seveaskong0_: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 09:51
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Tobadammit09:51
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TobaI tried moving the top bar over to the right by dragging it09:52
Tobaand now it's all funky and on the left09:52
Tobahow do I tell it to get the hell back to the top of my screen?09:52
HappyFoolyou can't drag it back to the top?09:52
Tobathe launcher links are the size of new york now09:52
rekaToba: er, drag it back there?09:52
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Tobano, because ever single bit of space on it is clickable09:52
HappyFoolhmm09:52
Tobathere is no place that doesn't actually do anything09:52
TiMiDoToba: gnome?09:52
rekaToba: ah, so that wasn't just the one guy who did that. :-)09:52
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Tobayeah gnome09:52
TiMiDoright click on the icon,09:53
rekaToba: right-click on the panel and change the size through prefs09:53
Tobaum09:53
reka*properties09:53
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tmervinhi09:53
Tobathere are no menus to do that09:53
Tobawhat panel?09:53
TiMiDoToba: the gnome panel09:53
Tobait's all launcher and menus09:53
rekaToba: if there isn't enough space to right-click on the panel, delete an icon... you can always add them later.09:53
Tobano just plain space to click on09:53
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rekaToba: see above.09:53
tmervinis there a way to install ubuntu on a laptop without a working cdrom ?09:53
Tobabah09:53
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TiMiDotmervin: not really09:54
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CarlK_tmervin https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocalNetInstall09:54
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Tobawell09:54
Tobathat worked09:54
Tobabut now I'm missing evolution09:54
Tobanot that I was using it anyway09:54
LCTOIRC. better than google :-D09:54
Flying-PenguinX3N: well it is verry good to see you agen... since I havn't been able to get to cadradio.net so I couldn't connect.09:54
amonkeywhat would be a good distro for a 300mhz lappy with ~60m of ram? is ubuntu too heavy for it?09:54
naliothtmervin: do a debian network install, and afterward, change all the sources.lists to ubuntu ones09:54
rekaToba: find it in the menu, right-click->add to panel09:54
Tobawill do09:54
X3NFlying-Penguin, it's not cadradio.net anymore it's irc.cad-net.org09:54
naliothtmervin: you DO have a floppy drive, right?09:54
Tobaand there it is again09:55
Tobaheh09:55
rekaToba: if you want it there that is. :-)09:55
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mbruemmersomebody have experiance with rosengarde4 and ibook?09:55
e-heado.k., now my question ...09:55
Tobais there a way to change the root pw different from my non-root-user pw?09:55
ivolooserCarlK_, thank is take a look09:55
Tobabecause passwd did not actually change it09:55
Seveastmervin, if you do a debian install, do a *woody* install, not a sarge install09:55
e-headdoes the Ubuntu installer "cook up" a "custom" /etc/modules file for each computer upon installation ?09:55
Tobathe password was back to the original one after I closed the emulated root term09:55
Sevease-head, no09:55
tmervinSeveas: ok09:55
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e-heador does everyone get a "generic" /etc/modules file ?09:55
tmervinnalioth: i do09:56
TiMiDoToba: so the passwd didn't worked?09:56
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rekaubotu: tell Toba about rootsudo09:56
TobaTimbo: no09:56
Sevease-head, /etc/modules is generic09:56
TobaI did sudo su root09:56
Tobais that what i should have done?09:56
tmervinSeveas: sarge is buggy ?09:56
naliothtmervin: then go to debian.org and get the netinstall floppy img09:56
Tobawell09:56
rg58smahi wanna load my ubuntu with write my ntsf partition09:56
Tobait didn't work09:56
Tobabut meh09:56
CarlK_any idea how to get 2 wifi cards to talk to each other?  ad-hoc mode I think it is called09:56
Sevease-head, hotplug is expected to do the rest09:56
TiMiDotry doing su09:56
Kyralrg58sma: Bad idea09:56
naliothrg58sma: writing to NTFS is unstable (read: may cause total NTFS partition failure)09:56
TimboToba: yes!09:56
rekarg58sma: ntfs-write is unsfe09:56
Seveastmervin, no, just newer than hoary which causes depency problems when trying a sarge->hoary upgrade09:57
amonkeyToba, sudo su, then passwd09:57
amonkeyToba, probably don't even need to su09:57
Tobaauthentication failure on su root09:57
Tobaoh09:57
mbirkiswhy have ubuntu developers removed the delightful spatial browsing in nautilus? and how do i get it back?09:57
Tobasu root is wrong?09:57
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e-headSeveas: ahh ...09:57
tmervinnalioth: ok, basically, all i have to do is just update the sources.list like while dist-upgrade in debian ?09:57
Tobaheh09:57
rekambirkis: it's in prefs09:57
Seveastoba: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:57
Tobasudo su worked09:57
rekabehaviour tab09:57
Tobanow I wonder if passwd will09:57
tmervinSeveas: thx a lot09:57
Seveasmbirkis, you can change it with the gconf-editor09:57
TiMiDoToba: try it (:09:57
Seveasmbirkis, search for the no-ubuntu-spatial key09:57
mbirkisSeveas: thnx :)09:57
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rekaSeveas: why not just edit prefs. rather than hunting around in gconf?09:58
Tobao_0 it didn't ask for a pw09:58
Tobathat's just odd09:58
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Tobadoes it remember what I did last time or something?09:58
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TobaI don't like that09:58
Seveasreka, this specific thing is not editable in the prefs09:58
naliothtmervin: get the sarge net install img, and when its installed (just install minimal) change the sources.list for ubuntus (found at ubuntulinux.org/wiki/09:58
TiMiDoToba:  try sudo chown bob *09:58
SeveasToba, sudo remembers the passwords for a certain amount of time09:58
KyralHey, quick question, how do I get my SATA FAT32 drive to auto mount on boot, I have the auto flag set in fstab, but when it boots, I get "mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist"09:58
TiMiDobob is the username =)09:58
Tobao_009:58
snikerrg58sma: you can try to use captive for write on ntfs09:58
SeveasToba: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:58
tmervinnalioth: thx again09:58
Seveasread it...09:58
bkinmanhow do i kill a single window border in metacity?09:58
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Tobaah09:59
rekaSeveas: yes it is. :-)09:59
Tobahow do I tell it to forget the pw?09:59
Seveasreka, since when?09:59
Tobasu seems to work now09:59
TiMiDosudo -s09:59
Seveasit is *not* the open in browser windows thing...09:59
SeveasTiMiDo, sudo -i09:59
rekaSeveas: since always ... well in ubuntu distros that is.09:59
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TiMiDoyeah =)09:59
TiMiDothnx Seveas09:59
SeveasNOT -s09:59
michaelcool09:59
rekaedit->prefs->behaviour: enable "always show in browser windows"10:00
Timboreka: where is this option?10:00
Timbothat's something else10:00
Seveasreka, that is NOT what he was looking for10:00
HappyFoolToba: read 'man sudo'10:00
rekaone of the first things i do on install10:00
mbirkisreka: it isn't that one i wan't! ;)10:00
bkinmanhow do i kill a single window border in metacity? anyone?10:00
HappyFoolToba: it looks like you can use 'sudo -k' to make sudo forget the password10:00
Seveasreka, ubuntu has made a change to spatial mode, which can only be disabled with gconf-editor10:00
Timboi don't get that change10:00
chrissturmbkinman, theres a panel applet for that10:00
Timboeverybody seems to hate it10:00
rekaSeveas: ok i'm confused. spatial browsing means you get the window w/out the address bar right?10:01
Timbois it getting changed back to normal for breezy?10:01
mbirkisSeveas: i found it... thnx10:01
Seveasreka, no10:01
bkinmanchrissturm, whats the name of it, you knoe/10:01
Seveasoriginal spatial mode opened a new window for everything you clicked10:01
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Seveasubuntu spatial mode closes the parent window if you do that10:01
rekaand that's what he wants?10:01
Tobaok, working fine now10:01
concept10I dont understand the big issue about spatial mode10:01
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Seveasreka, yes :)10:01
mbirkisreka: yes10:01
rekaSeveas: ok, got it. :-)10:02
TiMiDoToba: sudo passwd root to enable the root account10:02
delireconcept10: it's fairly polemic10:02
chrissturmbkinman, force quit10:02
mbirkisreka: i find it very efficient :)10:02
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reka:-)10:02
Seveasconcept10, there has been a complete riot about it in ubuntu-users and ubuntu-devel :)10:02
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bkinmanchrissturm, I just want to kill the border, not the application10:02
concept10Seveas, lol10:02
chrissturmbkinman: ic, dunno then10:02
rekambirkis: you like having 10 windows open?10:03
concept10Seveas, the reason I dont understand it is because you can click always open in browser mode in the options if you dont like spatial10:03
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Seveasconcept10, some people like the 'icon view'10:03
concept10maybe im missing something10:03
Flying-Penguindamn10:04
naliothreka: concept10 i have no clue waht spatial is. is there a explanatory link?10:04
chrissturmthe castrated spatial mode must go away for breezy!10:04
rekanalioth: seveas10:04
reka:-)10:04
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chrissturm(imho)10:04
rekachrissturm: that's like removing the tab feature from a browser and enforcing everything open in new windows.10:05
concept10spatial is when you open a folder or dir with nautilus and it just shows icons instead of being more like explorer in windows10:05
chrissturmreka: i like spatial, and whoever doenst like it can use browser mode10:05
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HappyFooli think it has to do with multiple windows being open; i think nautilus also 'remembers' where the windows were for when they're next opened10:05
naliothconcept10: i can switch back and forth from icons to details. didnt think anything of it10:06
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mbirkisHappyFool: yes remember the places nautilus does10:06
chrissturmspatial mode is great when you get it10:06
concept10nalioth, http://gnome.org/start/2.10/notes/rnwhatsnew.html10:06
naliothchrissturm: got a explanatory link for spatial?10:06
mbirkisnalioth: google10:06
rekawhat needs to be fixed in nautilus is allowing drag-selection in list view10:06
Seveasgoogle.com?q=spatial+nautilus10:06
rekait seems it can only be done in icon view10:07
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chrissturmnalioth: http://www.bytebot.net/geekdocs/spatial-nautilus.html10:07
tmdcaHello. Anyone can give me a tips on a working mp3player for ubuntu?10:07
concept10What REALLY needs to be fixed in Nautilus is speed10:07
CarlKonce I set essid and key with iwconfig, how can I test to see if it can talk to the AP?10:08
rekatmdca: beep-media-player10:08
Seveastmdca: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support10:08
rekatmdca: if you're having sound problems, it's more likely the output plugin10:08
rg58smahot to formmat and mount a W95 FAT32 (LBA)????10:08
CarlKright now I run dhclient and wait 60 seconds for it to time out10:08
naliothtmdca: have you enabled universe and multiverse?10:08
mbirkisSeveas: hmm... after fixing it in gconf it still is ubuntu-spatial10:08
chrissturmmbirkis, killall nautilus10:08
CarlKwhoops, worng chan...10:08
Seveasmbirkis, you might have to logout+login10:08
rekaconcept10: yep, speed increase would be good too.10:09
tmdcareka, no i dont. xmms just wont play mp3files10:09
concept10rg58sma, fdisk -l /dev/hdx10:09
rg58sma-l10:09
rekatmdca: i repeat, if you're having sound problems, it's more likely the output plugin.  have you changed it to esd or alsa?10:09
Seveastmdca, change the xmms output plugin to esound in order to fix it10:09
naliothso THATS why my gnome nautilus windows come up THAT way10:09
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tmdcareka, alsa...10:10
rg58smagparted es el partition magic de windows10:10
nalioththanks chrissturm10:10
tmdcaSeveas, how?10:10
concept10Does anyone prefer beep media player over xmms?10:10
rekaconcept10: me!10:10
Seveastmdca, hit <ctrl>+p to open the preferences10:10
naliothconcept10: i don't like either on10:10
naliothe10:10
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Seveasgo to plugins->output plugin10:10
Seveasand set it ti esound10:10
chrissturmmuine and amarok are both better10:10
rekaconcept10: the problem is people don't know about it.10:11
Seveaschrissturm, with too high dependencies too :)10:11
rekauntil you tell them10:11
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Seveasmono still isn't default and quite a big dependency for a music player10:11
concept10nalioth, why not?10:11
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mbirkisSeveas: still no luck! hmm, what am i doing wrong?10:11
stjepanhi10:11
stjepanwhati is diff?10:11
Seveasand amarok leads to kde, kde leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering10:11
SoylentOrboGot some Live CD oddness: XScreensaver kicked in, and now I can't get out of it because there's no password for user ubuntu; just responds with "Login cancelled"10:11
concept10Seveas, thats a correct statement10:11
HappyFoolstjepan: diff is a utility to tell you how two files are different10:11
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rekaconcept10: i'd like auto-tagging of the mp3 id info ... dare i say like wmp?10:12
chrissturmsevead: quod libet rocks10:12
FlickieNah not working10:12
HappyFoolstjepan: try 'man diff' for more information10:12
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XRoaderHi, I'm trying to change preferences in Mozilla Firefox, but it comes up with XML Parsing Error: root.disabled = "true", is there anyway for me to change preferences without going onto root?10:12
stjepanHappyFool: Now I am in windows10:12
concept10I used amarok when I used KDE a year ago but havent since.10:12
stjepan:(10:12
stjepanwhat is it?10:12
HappyFoolstjepan: i think i misunderstood your question10:12
justinSoylentOrbo: control-alt-f110:13
HappyFoolstjepan: what do you wish to know?10:13
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stjepanwhat is it?10:13
stjepanok10:13
naliothconcept10: cuz i'm old and blind and can't see the bloody thing (even enough to 'double-size' it)10:13
stjepanthere is download10:13
HappyFoolstjepan: what is what?10:13
Flickieanyone else got a speedtouch modem?10:13
stjepanthere is diff download10:13
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concept10reka, you mean the player accessing the info from the net?10:13
stjepanwhat's that?10:13
concept10nalioth, there is a good theme for ubuntu, it fits right in10:14
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HappyFoolstjepan: i don't know what easiest way to get diff for windows is. You could try installing cygwin, but that's a big download for one little program10:14
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stjepanoh10:14
concept10nalioth, but it wont help any if you cant see it. :)  I use double size too (im getting old and blind also)10:14
tmdcaThanks again. You are the best! =D10:14
SoylentOrbook, problem solved: just went into tty1 and used sudo passwd. But does anyone know the default pass for the live cd?10:14
SeveasSoylentOrbo, there is none...10:15
HappyFoolstjepan: cygwin is here: http://www.cygwin.com/10:15
stjepanyes10:15
stjepanI know10:15
stjepantnx10:15
HappyFoolstjepan: otherwise google for 'windows diff' -- i got several hits10:15
FlickieGrr might aswell just buy another modem that aint usb10:15
SoylentOrbook, as I thought. So it's an xscreensaver "problem" that it can't accept a blank entry.10:15
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naliothconcept10: i've never been a fan of xmms/winamp/bmp10:16
naliothconcept10: never have got it to work correctly, and other players work fine10:17
concept10nalioth, what do you use?10:17
concept10I might need something else that could remember the directory of music files10:17
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naliothconcept10: rhythmbox, vlc or other10:17
HappyFoolnalioth cats mp3s to /dev/dsp and does the decoding in wetware ;)10:17
naliothHappyFool: actually the equation i use is much more fancy than that10:18
jnoreikohi10:18
amonkeycan you install ubuntu on a comp without a bootable cddrive without using tftp and netboot?10:18
jnoreikois there a way to bookmark favourite channels in X-chat?10:18
naliothamonkey: got a floppy?10:18
naliothhere we go again10:18
Seveasjnoreiko, you can set them to autojoin...10:18
HappyFooljnoreiko: you can set channels to be joined on connect10:19
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amonkeynalioth, yeah, i installed dsl via floppy but it's version of x won't do my laptop's vid card10:19
lcoreHowto mount creative mp3 player in ubuntu? In suse I've used subfs. Here I don't know where to start. lsusb shows it's Bus 002 Device 003 Class SCSI. Any help apreciated.10:19
naliothamonkey: go to debian, get a sarge net install floppy image10:19
naliothamonkey: install sarge minimally10:19
Seveasnalioth, let them use woody to avoid dependency problems..10:20
naliothamonkey: then change the sources.list for ubuntus sources.list (found at ubuntulinux.org/wiki/) and update10:20
naliothamonkey: ok, use the woody inst image10:20
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naliothamonkey: then after you update with the ubuntu sources.list, rememeber that "ubuntu-desktop" is your friend10:20
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Anon1922is ubuntu easier to use than windows?10:21
naliothSeveas: woody, sarge, godzilla, "traci lords", all these debian names i'm cluesless about10:21
amonkeynalioth, will try, thanks. would smart bootmanager let me boot off the cdrom?10:21
chrissturmAnon1922, sure10:21
Anon1922how?10:21
naliothamonkey: whats that?10:21
chrissturmgnome is very end user friendly10:21
Anon1922what about the terminal thingy, that isn't easy10:22
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naliothSeveas: is there a "make floppy image" thing in the ubuntu install cd?10:22
lapohi10:22
HappyFoolAnon1922: what do you wish to do with your computer ?10:22
Seveasnalioth, not yet10:22
HappyFoolAnon1922: word-processing, e-mail, web-browsing? something else?10:22
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Anon1922happyfool: just simple stuff. games, inet, email, openoffice10:22
amonkeynalioth, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/upgrade-sarge/talkback/111358784310:22
keyeshello10:22
concept10HappyFool, you almost sounded like a microsoft commercial10:23
SeveasAnon1922, you will not need the terminal too often in Ubuntu10:23
Anon1922i put in for the shipit for some cds10:23
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keyesdoes anyone have a Skype working with an USB recorder ?10:23
HappyFoolconcept10: assimilation is inevitable10:23
keyesusb mic10:23
Anon1922what about drivers10:23
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HappyFoolAnon1922: unless you have unusual hardware, or wish to play windows only games, ubuntu should be sufficient for your needs10:23
Anon1922my hardware doesnt have linux drivers10:23
SeveasAnon1922, which hardware?10:23
HappyFoolAnon1922: what hardware is it?10:23
chrissturmAnon1922, you can try the livecd10:23
KyralAnon1922: And for gaming, try Cedega :P10:24
Anon1922ati radeon 9800pro, creative zudigy 2 z5 platinum pro, terminator studio tv10:24
Anon1922on the livecd, i get no sound10:24
jnoreikowhat download manager do you guys use?10:24
SeveasAnon1922, the ati is supported10:24
jnoreikoapt-get just told me for gwget: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!10:24
Anon1922ok what about the others10:25
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Seveasfor the audigy there is a howto on the forums10:25
Kyraljnoreiko: The one in Firefox10:25
Anon1922where?10:25
Seveasubuntuforums.org10:25
Anon1922like a specific link10:25
jnoreikofirefox doesn't support resume though10:25
Seveasdunno about the TV card, but most tv cards are supported...10:25
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Anon1922ok, but the sound didnt work when i did the live cd though10:25
SeveasAnon1922, that's because you need a little trick for the audigy10:26
Seveasand that trick has not yeet been implemented on the LiveCD10:26
naliothjnoreiko: for command line, i use wget or curl10:26
Anon1922and where is that link though10:26
naliothjnoreiko: they both resume, and i believe wget has a gui frontend somewhre (i use CLI 95% of the time)10:26
Seveasthere's gwget10:26
Anon1922seveas: link plz?10:27
SeveasAnon1922, i don't know the exact link10:27
naliothamonkey: you can try the smartboot thing, i've no experience with it. if it works, it may be quicker10:27
jnoreikoyeah, but I got a scary message from apt-get for gwget :(10:27
Anon1922how could i get it then10:27
Seveasbut ubuntuforums.org has a search function :)10:27
Anon1922ok10:27
jnoreikoI'd forgotten about command line stuff. wget will do the trick :)10:27
Kyraljnoreiko: Means nothing10:27
naliothSeveas: is that a gtk-wget thang or gnome-wget?10:27
HappyFooljnoreiko: try 'apt-get update'  -- every now and then i get that do, but updating usually fixes it10:28
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jnoreikoI would use azureus, but my ISP seems to choke on torrents10:28
dalihas anyone successfully compiled luminocity on Hoary, and if so - any help?  mine is erroring out10:28
Seveasnalioth, it uses gtk2 :)10:29
Seveasso gnome-wget10:29
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FlickieGot it to work :D10:29
naliothSeveas: ok just wondering (i'll stick with my website pounding CLI wget)10:29
FlickieBut hmmm need to get it to boot when the pc does now10:29
FlickieTo automatically dial-in when the PC boots up :10:29
Flickie/usr/lib/lsb/install_initd /etc/init.d/speedtouch10:29
FlickieDo you want to set this up now? (Yes / No)10:29
FlickieYes10:29
FlickieTraceback (most recent call last):10:29
Flickie  File "/usr/lib/lsb/install_initd", line 46, in ?10:29
Flickie    headers = initdutils.scan_initfile(initfile)10:29
Flickie  File "/usr/lib/lsb/initdutils.py", line 78, in scan_initfile10:29
Flickie    inheaders = RFC822Parser(strob=headerlines)10:29
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HappyFoolnyargh10:29
Flickie  File "/usr/lib/lsb/initdutils.py", line 17, in __init__10:29
TokenBadis there a way to install rpm files in ubuntu?10:29
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Flickie    raise ValueError, 'need a file or string'10:30
FlickieValueError: need a file or string10:30
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Seveasdamn..10:30
jnoreikoTokenBad, use alien AFAIK10:30
naliothTokenBad: use alian10:30
SeveasFlickie, FOOL10:30
naliothalien10:30
Seveasread the topic10:30
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naliothFlickie: there is a channel for that. #flood10:30
TokenBadcan get that through apt-get?10:31
naliothTokenBad: if its not already on your system10:31
dalishould already be there10:31
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TokenBadtype it at the prompt10:31
TokenBadgot not found10:31
jnoreikoI had trouble with alien. I couldn't get OOo rmps to install10:31
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jnoreikojust now downloading unofficial deb builds of 1.9 though :)10:32
Seveasjnoreiko, ubuntu has debs of 1.910:33
Seveasin Hoary multiverse10:33
Seveasuniverse*10:33
jnoreikooh cool10:33
jnoreikoI didn't know10:33
Seveasthey're called openoffice.org210:33
concept10anyone know how to show userlist in xchat?10:34
jnoreikowell I'm 46% of the debs from the other site... think they'll be significantly different?10:34
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Seveasjnoreiko, probably...10:34
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dalia little luminocity compiling help, anyone?10:34
TokenBadso alien isn't on my system10:34
SeveasTokenBad, it should be10:35
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Seveasotherwise install the alien package :)10:35
karlhegCarlK, you here?10:35
Anon1922seveas: i just searched the forums and didnt find anything that pertained to mine10:35
SeveasAnon1922, you can use generic Audigy instructions..10:36
CarlKyes10:36
TokenBadwhat was command again to install deb files?10:36
karlhegCarlK, you need to set the WEP key in the interfaces file.10:36
SeveasTokenBad, dpkg -i <debfile>10:36
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naliothTokenBad: sudo dpkg -i file.deb10:36
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karlhegCarlK, less /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wireless-tools10:37
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karlhegCarlK, that script is what parses added options set in /etc/network/interfaces that control WIFI settings.10:37
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CarlKkarlheg - does it end up calling iwconfig?10:38
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XRoaderHey, I have just installed Ubuntu and am wondering why Eclipse isn't on Synaptic, does anybody know why?10:38
karlhegCarlK, you can get the correct names from there and by reading the "man interfaces" to learn how it translates from what's typed in "interfaces" to a shell environment variable name...10:38
XRoaderI have enabled universal section btw10:38
squinnXRoader, what's eclipse?10:38
XRoadersquinn: An IDE, primeraly for Java10:39
holycowwhat is lpt1 device as a udev device? still lpt1?10:39
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HappyFoolXRoader: i see something called 'ecj-bootstrap', described as bootstrap version of the Eclipse Java compiler -- does that help ?10:39
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karlhegIt upper-cases, and prefixes with "IF_", so in the "interfaces" file, you say "wireless_key THE_KEY_HERE".10:39
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CarlKkarlheg - isn't that the long way of doing: # iwconfig eth1 essid "Library Wireless" key s:petoskeypublb10:39
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karlhegnorm_, it's simpler, since it stays in the "interfaces" conffile.10:40
XRoaderHappyFool: Thanks, I'll check that, maybe there's still hope10:40
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karlhegYou put:  wireless_essid Library Wireless10:40
karlhegwireless_key MY KEY HERE10:40
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karlheg... under the entry for the interface.10:41
karlhegDo you understand?10:41
scorpixhow can make firefox run thunderbirn when i click on "mailto:" link?10:41
concept10XRoader, i have all the repos and I dont see it you may have to get it from the homepage10:41
CarlKkarlheg - yes...10:41
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concept10sco10:41
karlhegTry it and page me if it does not work.10:41
CarlKkarlheg, I don;t think you understand me, but I will follow your instructjions ;)10:41
HappyFoolXRoader: or see this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE10:41
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concept10scorpix, enable thunderbird in preffered applications10:41
karlhegOk.10:42
LeeColletonscorpix: system > preferences > preffered apps10:42
concept10scorpix, system > preferences > preffered apps10:42
CarlKok, got  interfaces setup.  what next?10:42
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concept10lol10:42
karlhegCarlK, Look in /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools at the README.Debian.10:42
XRoaderconcept10: I've actually already downloaded it (all ~75MB :O), it's just it's a little strange, I'll investigate in a minute10:42
karlhegIt's all explained there.10:42
XRoaderhappyfool: Thanks for the URL10:42
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HappyFoolnp10:42
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naliothscorpix: check this out http://internet.newsforge.com/internet/05/05/26/1525248.shtml?tid=14410:43
karlheg:-)  You can't read a manual you don't know exists.10:43
naliothkarlheg: use galeon. its start page has links to all the docs on your system10:43
CarlKjustin - yeah - I have been trying to get iwconfig ... to use my parameters, but dhclient still doesn't get an IP, and I don't see how to debug what isn't right10:43
abbas /msg NickServ IDENTIFY10:43
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karlhegnalioth, Nice.  All the browsers should have that, and a nicely populated set of default bookmarks.10:44
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brk3just wondering.. how come ubuntu doesnt have this: http://www.bootsplash.org10:44
djm61karlheg: all documentation is in /usr/share/doc, as a last resort10:45
justinCarlK: run iwconfig, take notice of every field10:45
djm61brk3: schtop! this software's not ready10:45
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karlhegbrk3, search the wiki for "usplash".10:45
naliothkarlheg: well, galeon is the 'native gnome browser'10:45
envelHow to check hard disk surface?10:45
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Seveasbrk3, because ubuntu will use a usermode bootsplash...10:45
djm61brk3: it will have it, but not in default hoary10:45
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HappyFoolenvel: scanning tunneling microscope, i would guess10:45
top-cathi. i have a rather long problem and I'm unsure whether to type it here or post it onto the forums. it's regarding installation (lol n00bed) and requires a fair deal of eleboration!10:45
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karlhegdjm61, Sure.  How do people discover that fact?10:45
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Seveasdjm61, ubuntu will never have bootsplash from bootsplash.org10:45
envelHappyFool: ahaha! Cool!10:45
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CarlKjustin - if iwconfig shows an AP's MAC, shouldn't that mean it has a good connection?10:46
envelHappyFool: I mean to find all bad sectors (sorry for my english)10:46
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djm61karlheg: it's debian's standard way of laying out a filesystem, but in practice, just the same way you've just learned it10:46
HappyFoolenvel: ;-) heh. sorry, i don't know10:46
justinCarlK: that's a good sign, yes10:46
CarlKkarlheg - read over readme.debian... what next?10:47
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brk3it should have it though.. the boot messages scrolling down the screen isnt exactly in keeping with ubuntus 'human friendly' thing10:47
bl4cktoneAnyone running ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 9300?10:47
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CarlKjustin - so why does my win box get an IP, but running dhclient and dhclient3 on the ubuntu box just times out?10:47
XRoaderNewbie Problem: I downloaded/installed a Maths program called Maxima and I'm in usr/lib/maxima/5.9.1 and there's a maxima executable but its 22mb, should it be this large and how can I execute it (double clicking it doesn't seem to work, maybe I'm missing a fundamental linux task)10:48
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HappyFoolXRoader: i have a feeling maxima is command-line10:48
jnoreikoany guesses when firefox are going to fix the linux menu pop-up bug?10:48
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justinCarlK: wrong key? what do the stats in iwconfig say about invalid crypt and stuff?10:48
teflahi folks, is there a way for me to watch movies in the background, for example of the shell window? or the background of a text editor?10:48
HappyFoolXRoader: try starting a terminal (Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal) and type 'maxima'<enter>10:48
HappyFoolerr10:48
roger__dual booting question - had Windows XP installed and just installed Ubuntu on the same hard disk using some free space on the drive - Ubuntu works fine but when trying to boot Windows nothing happens. GRUB has overwritten the  MBR but hasn't touched the Windows partition - does anyone have any ideas what's wrong please?10:48
HappyFoolmaxima<enter>10:48
brk3jnoreiko: what bug?10:48
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XRoaderHappyFool, oh damn yeah I never tried, in fact I should have since I have another maths app for the command line10:48
XRoaderthanks10:48
XRoaderagain :)10:49
CarlKjustin - let me try with a bunk key10:49
karlhegCarlK, sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces10:49
HappyFoolXRoader: i think there's an emacs mode for maxima10:49
karlhegCarlK, sudo ifup wlan010:49
dalihas anyone successfully compiled luminocity on hoary??10:49
HappyFoolXRoader: which may be more usable than bare command-line, though i've never used it10:49
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karlhegCarlK, You can do it!  Next release will have a much nicer way of doing that...10:49
CarlKjustin - if I pass a bad key, iwconfig errors, so looks like the s:keystring is good10:49
jnoreikobrk3, it's in bugzilla... but maybe it's been fixed already. the submenus did this annoying disappearing act10:49
bl4cktonelike the new Gorillaz Album but my inspiron doesn't seem to be giving bass out the subwoofer on the bottom of my laptop10:50
dougskXRoader, you might look into mascyma10:50
jnoreikoah no, they still do it10:50
justinCarlK: what "bad key" did you tell it to use?10:50
karlhegCarlK, Hey, come to think of it, there IS a gui for that now.  I've been editting conffiles for so long I forget about the new tools.10:50
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justinCarlK: there is a difference between "bad key" and "wrong key" some things are just not even valid10:50
jnoreikoopen a bookmark submenu by hovering on it. Now change your mind and move to the next one.10:50
karlhegCarlK, You can use the network configuration tool on the System --> Administration menu, I think.10:50
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CarlKkarlheg - yeah, but the current gui doesnt expose the errors, it jsut closed the dialog like everyint is OK10:50
rancorusHi, I have a kodax digital camera and gtkam of digikam cannot detect it. Is there something i can do ?10:50
refuze2loozewhat's a good firefox plugin to view video/music?10:51
CarlKjustin iwconfig key s:foobar10:51
justinCarlK: iwconfig ethx key s:foobar10:51
XRoaderdougsk: Is that another Maths program, I cannot check on Synaptic since I'm downloading emacs for maxima10:51
r0dI have to 'etc/alsa force-reload' and unmute all my channels in order for my sound to work. any idea's ?10:51
r0d*/etc/init.d/alsa10:51
karlhegCarlK, Ah.  so use the "sudo ifup" from the command line, and see the error printouts.  You might find the errors from the tool in ~/.xsession-errors too.10:51
CarlKarg... no, i did't use foobar, i pubt foobar on the end of the right key and i think it is too long10:51
karlhegtail -f ~/.xsession-errors10:51
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dougskXRoader, that's a gui that maekes use of Texmacs to edit equations10:51
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teflarefuze2looze: try the mplayer plugin for mozilla (use synaptic or apt-get)10:52
karlhegCarlK, Ok, I gotta go back to work.  Good luck.10:52
CarlKkarlheg - thanks anyway10:52
karlhegXRoader, try TeXmacs with Maxima.  It's awesome!10:52
CarlKkarlheg - Ill be testing the new gui's ;)10:52
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karlheg:-)10:52
XRoaderdougsk: Oh okay, you wouldn't happen to know the files I need for me to be able to make documents with LaTeX10:52
karlheg'network-manager' will be in Breezy.10:53
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karlhegI have not tried it yet.  They are doing integration work now, probably as we speak.10:53
SeveasXRoader, tetex-base, tetex-bin, tetex-extra10:53
XRoaderkarlheg: If only my damn internet connection would download faster (well 110kbps ain't bad) I'd have a huge selection of maths programs10:53
CarlKjustin - s:foobar, no error, and iwconfig just shows key: 666f-6f... the hex versiopn of foobar10:53
karlheg(NetworkManager)10:53
XRoaderseveas: Thanks :)10:53
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refuze2loozetefla: i tried that one but sometimes it causes firefox to exit due to segmentation fault10:53
XRoaderfortunately those tetex programs have already been downloaded10:54
XRoaderam I right in calling the things I download from synaptic programs?10:54
karlhegXRoader, I used TeXmacs and Maxima for all of my Calculus homework.  The TeXmacs math editting is superior to any editor ever written, though LyX comes very close.10:54
SeveasXRoader, not always10:54
karlhegI think that LyX pioneered it.10:54
Seveasbut in this case: yes10:54
CarlKjustin and s:foobar, iwconfig still shows the AP's mac, so tghat doesn't prove anything10:54
HappyFoolkarlheg: eh, what about emacs auctex mode :P10:54
karlhegThey work in a similar fashion.10:54
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XRoaderkarlheg: Right, I'll try them both, see which I prefer10:55
karlhegthe one in 'Word' and 'OpenOffice' are not as easy to use, and don't make as nice of result.10:55
karlhegHappyFool, :-)  XEmacs is my OS.10:55
karlhegI was LaTeX'ing math homework as a freshman.10:55
LeeColletonEmacs: not just an OS, it's a religion10:56
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karlhegLinux geeks are just like that, I guess.  We have higher averages than most...  right?10:56
roger__dual booting question - had Windows XP installed and just installed Ubuntu on the same hard disk using some free space on the drive - Ubuntu works fine but when trying to boot Windows nothing happens. GRUB has overwritten the  MBR but hasn't touched the Windows partition - does anyone have any ideas what's wrong please?10:56
HappyFoolLeeColleton: the *true* religion10:56
LeeColletonPraise St. GNUcius10:56
SeveasI beg to differ :)10:56
HappyFoolexcept i haven't figured out how to get calendaring etc going10:56
TiMiDoroger__: try mounting the windows,10:56
karlhegEmacs Makes A Computer Superior.10:56
XRoaderI think the day I decided to try out Linux was the day I had to format Windows 5 times in one day10:57
HappyFoolso i'm stuck with outlook for that oh joy10:57
Seveasomfg, that's the worst gnucronym ever...10:57
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Seveas:)10:57
r0dI have to 'etc/init.d/alsa force-reload' and unmute all my channels in order for my sound to work. any idea's ?10:57
karlhegroger__, look at /boot/grub/menu.lst and see if there's an entry for XP listed.10:57
e-headSeveas: question ...10:57
karlhegroger__, is it shown in the boot menu?10:57
TiMiDor0d: which sound card?10:58
r0dTiMiDo, Nvida nforce210:58
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roger__karlheg: yeah the option is there, but after selecting it it just hangs and nothing actually happens10:58
TiMiDor0d: do you have the alsamixer?10:58
teflahi folks, is there a way for me to watch movies in the background, for example of the shell window? or the background of a text editor?10:58
LeeColletonsorry Seveas, it's supposed to be Saint IGNUcius10:58
r0dTimbo,  yep'10:59
r0dTiMiDo, yep10:59
r0dlol10:59
roger__karlheg: the partition mounts fine when in Ubuntu, but it won't boot10:59
Seveasroger__, can you paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst and the output of sudo fdisk -l on paste.ubuntulinux.nl please10:59
TiMiDoopen it up10:59
r0ddid10:59
karlhegWhat does the block say in menu.lst for XP?10:59
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tahorghi10:59
LeeColletonhttp://www.stallman.org/saint.html10:59
TiMiDor0d: any errors?10:59
karlhegAnyone have one that works for roger__ to look at?10:59
e-headSo essentially, at start up ... grub/lilo reads the kernel, creates the initrd in memory, processes the linuxrc file on said initrd, kernel loads modules needed to access root filesystem, chroot/pivot_root is performed, initrd unloaded from memory, then using hotplug all devices/drivers are loaded and configured ?10:59
r0dnope all are unmuted except the 3d10:59
karlhegI don't use anything but Ubuntu...10:59
tahorganyone here has already configured a polypaudio client/server ?10:59
r0d3d control10:59
TiMiDook11:00
Sevease-head, sort of11:00
karlhegIt's not cool for it to not allow you the freedom of choice though.  I hope you get it to work.11:00
TiMiDotake out the unmuted on 3d11:00
tahorgdocumentation is REALLY short11:00
amr 22:00:22 up 2 days,  5:14,  2 users,  load average: 0.50, 0.73, 0.6811:00
amr;o11:00
r0dk11:00
amrshiat11:00
e-headgrub obviously can read ext3, even though the kernel can not (w/o module loaded)11:00
r0ddone TiMiDo11:01
Sevease-head, correct11:01
TiMiDotry opening xmms,11:01
TiMiDoor play something with the sound card11:01
Seveasthat's what stage2.ext3 in /boot/grub is for11:01
e-headSeveas: so, what did i screw up ?11:01
r0dTiMiDo,  it works, but when i reboot. the alsa daemon isnt up11:01
roger__Seveas: it's up11:01
slyyo, anyone know what the average glxgears output is for a gforce 4 ti ? just wanted to know if everything is up to scratch11:01
r0dTiMiDo,  and I have to force the bastard up.11:01
slyas it takes several minuets to boot up UT, but after that is fine =\11:01
TiMiDowhy do you reboot the alsa deamon?11:01
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karlhegroger__, It booted XP now?11:01
r0dbe its not running when i boot up11:02
r0d*because11:02
e-headand also ... i expected linuxrc on initrd to have a chroot/pivot_root command ? is this just automatically done by kernel ? If it "knows" it was booted from initrd ?11:02
roger__sly: I used to get ~3800 on my old geforce 4200 ti11:02
roger__sly: with latest nvidia drivers11:02
TiMiDor0d: interesting hold up a sec11:02
Seveasroger__, root (hd3,0) doesn't seem to be correct11:02
slyhmmm =\11:02
roger__karlheg: no I'm in Ubuntu... I meant the details are up on paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:02
slysly@DarkStar:~$ glxgears11:02
Seveasroger__, given that windows is on (hd0,1)11:02
sly6247 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1249.400 FPS11:02
sly8078 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1615.600 FPS11:02
sly8181 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1636.200 FPS11:02
e-headlinuxrc hardly has anything in it at all ... but there was one hint, where it "cats" the "real" root device to a file ...11:02
slymaybe not then eh , =\11:02
Seveasroger__, can you please post your *complete* menu.lst too11:03
roger__Seveas: it is, I just cropped the output from fdisk11:03
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e-headso i'm presumming the kernel "sees" this and just does the pivot_root ?11:03
roger__Seveas: ok will put the whole lot up.. just a min11:03
Seveasroger__, put the complete output of fdisk too then11:04
TiMiDor0d: go to cd /etc/init.d/11:04
TiMiDoand do you see anything called alsa?11:04
r0dlol yea TiMiDo11:04
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RzRhi11:04
r0di did /etc/init.d/alsa start11:04
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TiMiDoalright11:04
RzRi lost my mbr , i can not boot windows anymore, can you help ?11:04
CarlKjustin - if I am not getting any link quality, signal level, etc... any idea what that means?11:04
RzRthats my err : windows 2000 could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: <windows 2000 root>/system32/ntoskrnl.exe11:04
SeveasRzR, you didn't lose your mbr then, but a file on your disk11:05
SeveasRzR, mount the disk in linux to see if it is actually missing11:05
RzRwhich one ?11:05
RzRi see that ntoskrnl.exe11:05
Seveas<windows 2000 root>/system32/ntoskrnl.exe11:05
r0dIt's really crazy TiMiDo... I did all the normal procedures for loading a deamon and testing sound channels11:05
CarlKomg.. i switched nics and now I have an iP11:06
roger__Seveas: full listing is up - hda and hdb are old disks from previous installation, don't have any OS files on them11:06
TiMiDor0d: hold up a sec let me look it up11:06
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r0dkool11:06
CarlKwa!,,. the IP went away11:06
r0dRzR, recovery console my friend. its on the xp cd11:07
RzRi dont use xp11:07
r0dor 2k11:07
RzRsee the 2k up ^11:07
roger__Seveas: just noticed the Windows partition has the bootable flag and not my /boot partition (sda4) - could that be the problem do you think?11:07
r0dsame thing mostly11:07
TiMiDor0d: go to /etc/modules.conf11:07
Seveasroger__, no11:07
r0dsome dude had same problem yesterday. use fixmbr, fixboot command11:07
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r0dk TiMiDo11:08
zythdos disk, fdisk /mbr11:08
Seveasroger__, "Partition table entries are not in disk order"11:08
zythlol11:08
caryseveas, you around?11:08
Seveasthat worries me11:08
Seveasmaybe it confises windows11:08
caryseveas, awesome. I SEE YOUR TYPING11:08
carymauahahahahaha11:08
RzRsearcher`: i have the same message too11:08
RzR"Partition table entries are not in disk order"11:08
Seveasroger__, by the way, does windows think it is installed on C:\11:08
Seveas?11:08
RzRand my windows used to be on D:11:09
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roger__Seveas: yeah, it can't see any other partitions (they're all non-Windows)11:09
Seveashi cary :011:09
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caryseveas, when you get a second i have a question about yaboot stuff and the kernel i compiled yesterday11:09
caryserveas, how sit going?11:09
Seveasroger__, try hide (hd0) and hide (hd1) in grub11:09
Seveasmaybe it works11:09
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r0dTiMiDo,  what am i looking for?11:10
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TiMiDodo you see anything there with alsa?11:10
r0ddo i add alsa Timbo11:10
Seveascary, yeah I saw that it went wrong, but I cannot help you further since I don't use a mac myself, sorry11:10
r0dno11:10
teflahi does anyone know of a text editor or X terminal emulator that can play videos in the background?11:10
roger__Seveas: just at the top of the file?11:10
TiMiDothat's great11:10
Seveasroger__, no, just before the boot in the winxp entry11:10
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r0dso thats the prob?11:10
TiMiDoyeap,11:10
djm61tefla: I'm pretty sure it's not going to happen11:10
r0dwoohoo!! u rock11:10
TiMiDodo you know you'r sound card modules?11:10
CarlKjustin - im still stuck - any advice before I just try to find an open wifi?11:10
roger__Seveas: thanks will give it a shot ;)11:10
caryseveas, ahha. thats cool11:10
r0dTiMiDo, no off had, ill just lsmod it11:10
r0d*hand11:11
bkinmanXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". ??? im using fglrx ati drivers, why am i getting this error, anyone?11:11
r0dcant spell today11:11
Seveasroger__, while you're at it:11:11
CarlKand have to tell my GF why she can't use her laptop in the library....11:11
TiMiDor0d: do this apt-get install modconf and try adding the modules there,11:11
tefladjm61: always worth a shot :)11:11
r0dk11:11
TiMiDogrrr try searching for the modules there =)11:11
carynow i guess i get to wait for pfp! woohoo11:11
TiMiDois graphical11:11
Seveashide (hd3,1) hide(hd3,2) hide(hd3,3) hide(hd3,4)11:11
djm61tefla: it would be easier to get mplayer to overlay text if you feel up to it...or possibly wait for the great new X compositing to mature11:11
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TiMiDobrb gonna smoked a cig11:12
r0dhey TiMiDo , theirs nothing in the repository w/ that11:12
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caryseveas, i didnt know about "tab" thing at the yaboot prompt, so i can at least boot ubuntu again, but when i tried to boot the new kernel, thats where it franked up11:12
tefladjm61: using the mplayer source code?11:12
r0dTiMiDo, so init looks a module for loading deamons?11:13
r0d*at11:13
djm61tefla: if you can do it from the binary, there is nothing I could possibly tell you ;)11:13
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Seveascary, try asking on the mailinglist, there are more smart people there11:13
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RzRSeveas: i have a copy of previous MBR btw can this help ?11:13
caryseveas, is there a place i can look up info on changing the default boot option in yaboot?11:13
Firetechwhat exactly are the ubuntu kernel packages do? or, in other words, what can go wrong if I install an "original" 2.6.12 kernel?11:13
Seveascary, no idea, as I said I never used a mac11:13
Seveasso I don't know anything about yaboot11:13
Firetech*do-> for11:13
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caryseveas, cool. thanks. thanks for all your help.11:14
teflai might try a mplayer xterm merge :) could be fun. not exactly sure of the professional uses it may have :|11:14
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caryseveas, haha.. didnt knwo if yaboot was a mac only thing. i shall let you get back to being helpful to others. (thanks)11:14
tefladjm61: i might try a mplayer xterm merge :) could be fun. not exactly sure of the professional uses it may have :|11:14
Seveascary, you're welcome :)11:15
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Flying-Llamahere we go...11:15
Flying-Llamaon my iBook G3, 800mhz, the dual usb snow white version (not the clamshell). I'm not able to get my airport card connected to my network (i'm using the old, standard card, not the broadcam, but the base station, or access point, is Extreme). In system/administration/networking, I can go and enable the card (eth1), which says its active, though when I close it and reopen it (not even a reboot), goes back to being deactivated11:15
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djm61tefla: mplayer has text display...the trick would be just the terminal emulation (and font size)11:15
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Billhi11:16
SeveasFlying-Llama, i think the macintosh disables the network card automatically on close...11:16
Flying-Llamareally?11:16
Billcan anyone help with installing wifi adapters11:16
Billon ubuntu11:16
SeveasFlying-Llama, i assume you mean closing the lid though...11:16
abarbacciahey guys, when i download things to my desktop they dont show up11:16
TiMiDono news r0d ?11:16
abarbacciaany way to quickly fix this?11:16
Flying-LlamaSeveas: no11:17
Flying-Llamaonly the window11:17
Seveasabarbaccia, hit <ctrl>r while having all apps minimized11:17
Flying-Llamathe network configuration window11:17
r0dTiMiDo, well looking w/ lsmod was alittle harder then i thought. theirs tons of audio modules11:17
BillI have installed ndiswrapper11:17
TiMiDobig time,11:17
SeveasFlying-Llama, ohh, that's not normal11:17
abarbacciaSeveas, you are the man11:17
r0dI was gonna try the one w/ most used11:17
SeveasFlying-Llama, are you using wpa encryption?11:17
Flying-LlamaSeveas: yes11:17
Flying-Llamawait...11:17
SeveasFlying-Llama, that does not work yet with the gui11:17
Flying-Llamano11:17
Seveasah ok, plain WEP11:18
Flying-Llamaya11:18
Billhas anyone got ndiswrapper to work on hoary?11:18
Flying-Llamasorry11:18
r0dits like 'sndpcm' what ya think TiMiDo11:18
Billpls11:18
SeveasBill, lots of people ;)11:18
TiMiDor0d: do modprobe sndpcm11:18
SeveasFlying-Llama, have you tried the commandline stuff to see whether that works?11:18
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Flying-Llamawhat do you mean Seveas11:18
TiMiDor0d: can you tell me the sound card again?11:18
Flying-Llamamodprobe airport?11:18
SeveasFlying-Llama, things like ifconfig/iwconfig/dhcliient11:18
BillI have a ZD1211 usb adapter and when I load ndiswrapper it says driver loaded hardware present11:18
Flying-Llamaahh no seveas11:19
SeveasFlying-Llama, the commandline tools will give you more debugging info11:19
Billbut its not in network config11:19
r0dyea its nvida nforce211:19
Flying-Llamathanks Seveas11:19
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r0dmodprobed it11:19
SeveasI think some info can be found on the WifiHowto on the wiki11:19
Billits listed as wlan011:19
Billbut then says no wireless extensions11:19
SeveasBill, does ifconfig -a show wlan0?11:19
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Billyep11:19
Seveasand have you added ndiswrapper to /etc/modules?11:20
Billyep11:20
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Seveashave you run ndiswrapper -m?11:20
Billyes11:20
TiMiDoand kernel r0d ?11:20
Seveashmm11:20
Billand it runs on startup11:20
r0dI'm confused alittle w/ the value of module.conf now I can tell that it loads kernel mods. but not all of them. so it just runs certain types?11:20
Flying-Llamawill there ever be rendevous/bonjour technology for linux? it was recently introduced for windows11:20
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Seveasand are you using iwconfig as root?11:20
r0dTiMiDo, 2.611:20
Billyes11:20
Billits driving me mad11:20
r0dTiMiDo, 2.6.10 to be full11:20
Seveasok, eliminated all user errors :|11:20
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Seveasndiswrapper -l shows driver present, hardware present?11:20
Billyep11:21
SeveasAnd yet it says no wireless instructions...11:21
Flying-Llamawhy  is networking so complicated....11:21
Seveashave you checked the ndiswrapper site to see whether your card is supported?11:21
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Billand iwconfig says "wlan0 no wireless extensions"11:21
SeveasFlying-Llama, wireless has the burden of lack of drivers11:21
Flying-Llamaahh11:21
CarlK I am about to give up on using a wep key... any last minute ideas?11:22
Seveasbut that doesn't count for your mac :)11:22
Flying-Llamaheh11:22
Seveasonly for the airport extreme11:22
zythwep wap wep wap mac11:22
Billwould u reccomend linuxant?11:22
r0do TiMiDo that 'modconf' program wasnt in the repository:(11:22
Seveaslinuxant is for modems11:22
Billwhat is the best card for hoary?11:22
SeveasBill, have you checked the ndiswrapper site to see whether your card is supported?11:22
TiMiDocan u pasted me lsmod ?11:22
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tenshiKur0linuxant has wifi drivers also... with WPA support11:23
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SeveasBill, any atheror or ipw2200 card will do11:23
TiMiDonot on channel11:23
SeveastenshiKur0, ah thank you11:23
Seveasi stand corrected11:23
tenshiKur0no stress... funny thing, was just playing with it about 3minutes ago11:23
roger__Seveas: tried the hide (hdx) thing and it doesn't work - infact now grub just says "error 17" and doesn't even bring up the menu :)11:23
Flying-Llamaapple should collaborate with the linux people to offer mac-like simplicity on an open source and powerful os11:24
Flying-Llamaand offerening more drivers11:24
SeveasFlying-Llama, indeed :)11:24
Flying-Llama:)11:24
Seveasroger__, ouch :|11:24
r0dsnd_usb_audio          60224  011:24
r0dsnd_usb_lib            11776  1 snd_usb_audio11:24
r0dsnd_rawmidi            22944  1 snd_usb_lib11:24
r0dsnd_seq_device          8332  1 snd_rawmidi11:24
r0dsnd_intel8x0           29984  011:24
r0dsnd_ac97_codec         64608  1 snd_intel8x011:24
Billcard isnt on list of ones known to work11:24
CarlKoff to burger king!11:24
r0dsnd_pcm_oss            47652  011:24
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Flying-Llamaif anyone cares, im alex__ from yesterday11:24
Seveasr0d, do NOT paste in here11:24
Seveasuse paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:24
Flying-Llamahow does that work11:25
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Seveaswhat work?11:25
Flying-Llamapaste.ubuntulinux.nl11:25
Flying-Llamanevm11:25
Flying-Llamai see now11:25
TiMiDocat /proc/modules11:25
Seveas:)11:25
TiMiDor0d:11:25
Flying-Llama:)11:25
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Billanyone got wireless card to work out of the box with hoary?11:26
Flying-Llamaamazing how popular ubuntu has become: 522 people in this room11:26
Billwithout ndiswrapper11:26
LCTOBill: I.11:26
Flying-Llamalook at #ubuntu-ppc11:26
Flying-Llamalol11:26
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LCTO... laptop PC card though.11:26
SeveasBill, I have, but my card is an atheros one11:26
Billok11:27
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Billits driving me mad, cant get the web without wireless11:27
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Seveasbill, last resort: try the ndiswrappersetuphowto on the wiki11:28
Billalso does anyone know how to get divx and dvd's to work on hoary?11:28
Seveasyou need to compile some stuff yourself..11:28
IFRFLY1anyone using anything to stream video on a website under ubuntu11:28
Billive been there and done it11:28
Seveasbill: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support11:28
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r0dty11:29
Seveasyw, making mistakes is a result of being a human :)11:30
Seveasr0d, i haven't been following your efforts, what is your problem?11:30
r0dfor some reason my alsa deamon wont start on boot11:30
r0di did /etc/init.d/alsa start11:31
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r0dbrb gotta reboot11:31
Ubuntuhi everybody11:31
Seveashello11:31
TiMiDoUbuntu: hello11:31
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Billdo u can download these and install from within hoary using the repositories?11:31
Ubuntuhi timido11:31
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Seveasbill, yes11:31
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Billgreat11:32
Seveas(if you are referring to the restricted stuff)11:32
Seveasmost of it can be downloaded from the backports/universe/multiverse11:32
Billcan u install an x86 version on an athlon 64 system?11:32
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TiMiDooh boy it sucks when you don't really have xbox games i finished them already11:32
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SeveasBill, yes11:33
Billwhere is backports/universe/multiverse?11:33
Ubuntuhi seveas11:33
Seveasuniverse/multiverse are components of the Ubuntu distribution (www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components)11:33
ThE__OnEis it possible to mopunt an iso file in ubuntu?11:34
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Flying-Llamai dont get it - what are all these other 500 people doing in here?11:34
mbirkishow do i get mpeg layer 2/3 support in xine?11:34
Seveasbackports is a community effort to provide bleeding-edge software on a stable Ubuntu11:34
Flying-Llamathe ones who dont talk11:34
SeveasThE__OnE, yes11:34
ThE__OnEhow Seveas?11:34
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Seveasmount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mountpoint11:34
ThE__OnEok thanks11:34
TiMiDoi can't wait until i get the ubuntu cds11:35
trog_sorry - its me, im logged on 498 times11:35
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kruegerHello11:35
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TiMiDor0d: did it worked?11:35
r0dyou rock TiMiDo11:35
r0dyea man awesome11:35
TiMiDohe =)11:35
r0dwhat did you probe?11:35
r0dmobprobe11:35
TiMiDomodprobe snd-intel8x011:35
r0dso thats my snd card eh?11:35
TiMiDomodules are snd-intel8x011:35
TiMiDoyeap that should be it11:36
SeveasTiMiDo, rofl, I was about to suggest that (didn't follow the complete effort)11:36
r0dgotta love the community...11:36
TiMiDoSeveas: huh?11:36
Flying-Llamathe HUGE community11:36
SeveasTiMiDo, nvm :)11:36
TiMiDohe =)11:36
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TiMiDoi'm slow sometimes that's why Seveas11:37
Seveas:o)11:37
r0dso TiMiDo so puting your moulde name in  modules.conf file is the same as doing /etc/init.d/alsa start?11:37
r0dmore or less...11:37
TiMiDoyou don't really touch the alsa deamon11:38
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Billive just seen the dvd versions avail for d/l on the ubuntu site - whats different betwen these and the cd release?11:38
Billpl11:38
Billpls11:38
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TiMiDoput it on /etc/modules11:38
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TiMiDo# /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.11:38
SeveasBill, the dvds contain more packages11:38
Seveasr0d, no11:38
r0dok11:38
Billlike all the restricted stuff11:39
r0do11:39
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Flying-Llamawhat are the most important and significant packages on the dvd seveas?11:39
Seveasr0d, putting that there makes sure the driver is loaded11:39
Seveasso alsa can start :)11:39
TiMiDoyeap11:39
SeveasFlying-Llama, the complete main and restricted sections are on it.11:39
r0di c. ok11:39
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Seveasby the way, you should not use modules.conf11:39
Flying-Llamarestricted?11:39
Seveasbut /etc/modules11:39
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Billdoes the dvd have all the restricted stuff?11:39
r0dyea its Seveas thats what its named11:40
SeveasFlying-Llama, www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components11:40
r0d*-its11:40
Flying-Llamaahh thanks Seveas :)11:40
TiMiDothen you should put it on /etc/modules and it will boot at start up11:40
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r0dyea im gonna do that now11:40
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dougskis there a list where i can see intent to package packages for motu?11:40
Seveasdougsk, yes11:41
SeveasUniverseCandidates11:41
bl4cktoneGuys I'm trying to get my subwoofer working on my inspiron 9300 doesn't seem to be pumping I don't know why11:41
SeveasMotuToReview11:41
SeveasMotuTODO11:41
Seveasetc11:41
dougskSeveas, ah okay thanks11:41
Seveasuse wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU as starting page :)11:41
AMDXP=)11:41
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thechitowncubsI want to make a simple GUI with one input that inputs the video id in this script: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43058  , can someone give me some tips on what i have to do?11:42
r0dhey TiMiDo  you ever customize your ubuntu kernel?11:42
revildabHah, so today I recieve the official ubuntu CD's in the mail that I ordered a while ago, completely unexpectedly. The plan is to drop a couple off at each local library. I now have something to do tomorrow \o/11:42
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thechitowncubsI have no experience programming11:42
usualcan ubuntu apt-get packages listed in a text file11:42
TiMiDoyeah sometimes when i'm bored11:42
thechitowncubsrevildab: good initiative :)11:42
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Seveasthechitowncubs, read the manpage for zenity11:43
Flying-Llamawhy on iwconfig does my eth1 (airport card) "nicknamed" HERMES I?11:43
HrdwrBoBusual: apt-get install $(cat file)11:43
thechitowncubsSeveas: will do, thanks for the quick help11:43
Flying-Llamawho is HERMES I11:43
r0dI'm coming from gentoo, which you baiscly have to become a kernel expert, but i never used initrd before and when i compile an ubuntu kernel i get modprobe errors11:43
Heimdallwhy mplayer is not in the packages lists ?????11:43
TiMiDomy cellphone11:43
SeveasHeimdall, it is11:44
HrdwrBoBr0d: don't compile the kernel11:44
Seveasin multiverse11:44
TiMiDor0d: do apt-cache search kernel-image and try downloading another kernel image11:44
Seveasr0d, on Ubuntu you don't need to compile your own kernel11:44
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SeveasTiMiDo, it's linux-image11:44
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Seveasbut there are nicer metapackages11:44
TiMiDooh is it?11:44
r0dSeveas, the basic kernel doesnt come w/ ntfs writer permissons right?11:44
Seveasr0d, what kind of cpu do you have?11:44
r0d*write11:44
Seveasr0d, nom but you don't need to compile your own kernel to get it11:45
r0damdxp11:45
HrdwrBoBr0d: you don't need to recompile your kernel to use captive-ntfs11:45
HeimdallSeveas : no, I do apt-get install mplayerfor 1h it is not11:45
Seveasr0d, install the linux-k7 package11:45
SeveasHeimdall, try mplayer-custom11:45
HeimdallSeveas : and my pat is updated11:45
SeveasHeimdall, or tey apt-cache search mplayer for more options11:45
Flying-Llamawhat exactly does dhclient do? configures my ip with dhcp or just sends feedback?11:45
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Seveasr0d, and captive ntfs can be found in the backports iirc11:46
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r0dok11:46
abarbacciawhats a good ftp client?11:46
r0dtheirs a wiki on that too, kool11:46
HrdwrBoBgftp is ok11:46
Seveasabarbaccia, gftp11:46
Seveasor places -> connect to server11:46
HeimdallSeveas : apt-cache show/search gives nothing11:46
Flying-Llamaubuntu cant conect directly to ftp?11:46
HrdwrBoBFlying-Llama: contacts a DHCP server, gets an IP/details, sets them up11:46
concept10anyone have a estimate of the user base of Ubuntu?11:46
Flying-LlamaHrdwrBoB: thanks11:47
abarbacciathanks again Seveas11:47
Flying-Llamaguess im too used to the finder...11:47
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HrdwrBoBah ok11:47
SeveasHeimdall, enable multiverse then11:47
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SeveasFlying-Llama, of course it can :)11:47
Flying-Llamaahh11:47
HeimdallSeveas multiverse ?11:47
Seveasthat's what places -> connect to server is for11:48
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trog_anyone know a decent podcast client?11:48
SeveasHeimdall: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:48
Flying-Llamathen what is gftp for11:48
SeveasHeimdall: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3811:48
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SeveasHeimdall, and also www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components11:48
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hajikiis there something i need to do to allow smtp connections from non localhost?11:48
HrdwrBoBhajiki: yes11:48
jmiMy Hoary system has stopped mounting CD-ROMS, my camera and my iPod - no error messages, just doesn't automount11:48
HrdwrBoBhajiki: you need to edit master.cf11:48
Flying-Llamawhat use is gftp?11:48
jmiAny suggestions where to start looking?11:48
HrdwrBoB.conf actually I think11:48
Seveasjmi, have you perhaps disabled it?11:49
thechitowncubsSeveas: I got this far: zenity --title="Yahoo! Launch Music Video Player" --entry --text="Music Video ID"  (but now i don't know how to inject it into my script)11:49
HrdwrBoBjmi: sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart11:49
Seveasjmi, system -> prefs removable media11:49
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HrdwrBoBFlying-Llama: what do you mean?11:49
Flying-Llamacan linux just connect to ftp without gftp?11:49
SeveasFlying-Llama, yes11:49
tenshiKur0just thought i'd share... currently installing i*86 architecture ubuntu on my pbook g4, using VPC, installs running fine so far, h/ware scan without errors...11:49
Seveasbut applications need to understand gnome-vfs in order to use that11:50
Flying-Llamaso what is gftp for?11:50
jmiSeveas: No, I've just reinstalled. Tried restarting hotplug and removable media options are enabled.11:50
Flying-Llamaahh thanks Seveas11:50
squinnFlying-Llama, GRAPHICAL version of ftp11:50
Flying-Llamaahhhhhh11:50
Flying-Llamasorryyy11:50
Seveasjmi, maybe your current user isn't in the plugdev group11:50
HrdwrBoBFlying-Llama: it's the same as in windows or whatever11:50
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HrdwrBoByou can use built in ftp11:50
HrdwrBoBor a dedicated client11:50
Flying-Llamaok thanks11:50
thechitowncubsSeveas: what do i need to inject it into the script now that I got this far?11:50
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Seveasthechitowncubs, can you past that url again please11:51
thechitowncubshttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4305811:51
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jmiSeveas: No, definitely in plugdev11:51
Flying-Llama"No DHCP offers received." How? My Airport Base gives DHCP in every other OS?11:52
ThE__OnESeveas, it dont mount, it gives me errors, can i PM you to apaste it?11:52
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hajikiHrdwrBoB, should i change this unix part to inet? -> smtp      unix  -       -       -       -       -       smtp11:52
Seveasthechitowncubs, you can het the entered value into a variable using VAR=$(zenity ....)11:53
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HrdwrBoBhajiki: somewhere there will be a 127.0.0.111:53
X3NSeveas you must be a sophisticated robot, or an amazing person who can deal with and solve multiple problems at once... it's amazing11:53
HrdwrBoBhajiki: you need to change it to 0.0.0.011:53
thechitowncubsSeveas: Great, I actually understood that, thanks for the help11:53
HrdwrBoBmaster.cf:127.0.0.1:smtp inet n   -       -       -       -       smtpd11:54
HrdwrBoBthat line11:54
SeveasX3N, lol :)11:54
hajikiHrdwrBoB, I have this -> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 in main.cf11:54
SirGireh, I have no desktop in GNOME anymore. No icons or background.. it's just gray! I used GNOME Configurator from gnomefiles.org and checked off "Show Desktop", but then I checked it back I still have no desktop! Help!11:54
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HrdwrBoBhajiki: that defines IPs that are able to relay11:54
Flying-Llamawhy isnt my airport base station (access point) not sending DHCP info to my iBook and it's STANDARD Airport card in Ubuntu?11:54
Seveasthks11:54
Seveasi needed that11:54
HrdwrBoBthe master.cf defines how it makes itself available11:54
Flying-Llamawhere is it?11:55
SeveasFlying-Llama, are you 100% positive you entered the wep-key and essid right?11:55
hajikiroot@box:/etc/postfix# cat master.cf | grep 12711:55
Seveasyou can use iwconfig to check11:55
hajikithat returns nothing11:55
Flying-Llamayes Seveas11:55
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HrdwrBoBhajiki: well then you may already have changed it11:55
Flying-Llamalet me reenter it just in case...11:55
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hajikiI just installed and havent done anything, hmmm11:56
HrdwrBoBunfortunately I must go, if you haven't figured it out in an hour to an hour and a half, I'll be back11:56
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Flying-LlamaSeveas: does it mean anything if my ESSID is something like FFF-FFF FFFFF11:56
Flying-Llamawith a space11:56
hajikiok thnx11:56
Flying-Llamawhere F is a letter11:56
SeveasFlying-Llama, yes, that (probably) means you have made some mistake11:57
lamonthajiki: in main.cf, search for 'loop'11:57
SirGirCan I reset GNOME's default settings? My desktop is gone.. =/11:57
lamonthajiki: inet_interfaces = loopback-only11:57
Flying-LlamaSeveas: im sure I spelled it right11:57
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hajikilamont, thanks!!!11:58
Yvonnetommo`: !11:58
chrissturmcan i configure xchat to have different nicks on different networks?11:58
tommo`Yvonne: !11:59
Flying-Llamain iwconf, it says access point: 44:44:44:44:44:44, is this normal?11:59
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lamonthajiki: np.  warty didn't have that parameter, so it had to tweak master.cf11:59
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fabiohello all11:59
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SeveasFlying-Llama, no, it means it did not associate correctly11:59
Flying-Llamahi11:59
Flying-Llamaahh11:59
SeveasFlying-Llama, try iwlist scan11:59
Flying-Llamaok12:00
ompaulhello fabio12:00

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