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_skaagnice12:05
_skaagdamn latest firefox in ubuntu is 1.0.212:07
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_skaagah no that's just a wrong version number12:08
_paxyes.12:10
_paxgeneral.useragent.vendorSub 1.0.412:11
_skaagit didn't update my theme... weird12:11
_skaagyes I changed that, found plastikfox12:11
_skaagclicked to install it12:11
_skaagselected to use the theme12:11
_skaagrestarted firefox12:11
_paxrestarted after ver change?12:12
_skaagyes12:12
_skaagI could access the update12:12
_skaagthere, it worked now12:12
_pax:)12:12
_skaagbeautiful12:12
_paxindeed12:12
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_paxclean calm look.12:13
_skaagyes I agree12:13
_paxyou know how to restart HDCP?12:14
uniqDHCP?12:14
_paxDHCP*12:14
uniqthe server or the client? 12:14
_paxclient12:14
ompaul_pax, 'sudo dhclient'12:14
_paxgreat, thanks ompaul 12:14
uniqor better 'sudo dhclient device'12:14
uniqwhere device is something like eth0 or wlan012:15
_paxthanks uniq 12:15
_paxI hooked a router and couldn't figure out how to restart12:15
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_paxguys and the server if you don't mind?12:17
uniqrestart the dhcp server? - sudo invoke-rc.d dhcp restart12:20
uniqi doubt you have that installed.12:21
uniqif you didn't install it and configure it though.12:21
_paxnah didnt .. just for future reference.12:21
_paxthanks.12:21
uniqno problem.12:21
_paxso then it should be in /etc/rc.d/init.ddhcp 'proly12:22
uniq /etc/init.d/dhcp12:22
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_pax:)12:22
_paxuniq: do you use firestarter?12:24
uniqno, sorry.. i write my own rules.12:24
_paxok.12:24
uniqwhat's the problem? 12:25
_paxwhen I restarter dhcp I can't see events any more12:25
_paxlooked for the config file nothing about it, seems like it can handle dynamic ip, but not in my case12:26
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somerville32Hey everyone :)12:34
somerville32I got kubuntu installed12:34
somerville32I don't think it detects my sound card though12:34
somerville32How do I configure it?12:34
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_paxtried the guide? http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly12:36
somerville32thanks12:39
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somerville32Still no sound :(12:57
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penguinboyHowdy Ho Neighbors!01:08
liz4rd:P01:08
somerville32Hey01:08
somerville32Can someone help me get sound working?01:08
penguinboyhey hey lizzypoo01:08
somerville32I don't think my card is detected01:08
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penguinboyliz can...he is a linux god01:09
liz4rdsomerville32: what kinda is it01:09
liz4rdof card01:09
liz4rdpenguinboy: :P LMAFAO NOT01:09
somerville32I think it is creative01:10
somerville32but the card isn't detected by kubuntu01:10
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liz4rdsirukin can help01:10
liz4rd:D01:10
sirukinhuh?01:10
liz4rdsomerville32 needs help01:10
liz4rdsaound problems01:10
somerville32I need help getting my sound card detected01:11
penguinboysirukin is yet another Linux god01:11
somerville32Kubuntu detect my sound card, it does not01:11
sirukinis this covered in the ubuntulinux wiki or *ghasp* the forums?01:12
sirukinwhat type of soundcard?01:12
somerville32Actually, I tried the tutorial thingy someone pointed me to01:12
somerville32but it didn't work01:12
somerville32And I think it is a creative01:13
liz4rdi was gonna tell him to modprobe but is creative what he should put in modules?01:13
liz4rdsudo modprobe snd_creative01:13
somerville32FATAL: Module snd_creative not found.01:13
sirukinwww.pastebin.ca01:14
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somerville32I'll be sure to use patebin if it is more then one line01:14
sirukinput the output of "dmesg", "lspci" there01:14
penguinboywhat is that command where you can list your devices?01:14
somerville32kk01:14
ompaulhow do I grab lots of kde wall papers in a single go 01:14
ompaulkdelook.org seems like a lot of work :-)01:14
penguinboyit is...but worth it!01:15
penguinboyexspecially the HOT HOT HOT one of Angelina Jolie01:15
sirukinls /lib/modules/2.6.x-x-xxx/01:15
penguinboyman oh man01:15
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sirukinI think angelina has an ugly face.01:15
sirukinsure as hell wouldn't mind those lips somewhere though.01:16
somerville32http://pastebin.ca/1517801:17
penguinboyyou need to see the pic at kde-look.org...her kips look like there are someplace special!01:17
penguinboyWOW01:17
ompaulpenguinboy, you might consider is 'cat /proc/devices'01:17
penguinboyrhanks01:18
tibalIs there special stuff tu use .htacces with apache2 on ubuntu ?01:18
penguinboyi sent the link to Angelina to liz4rd last night and he got really excited01:18
tibalit doesn't work with AutFile01:18
tibalIs there special rights for .htaccess & .htpasswd files ?01:19
sirukinsomerville32, #01:19
sirukinisapnp: Card 'Creative SB16 PnP'01:19
sirukinjust "modprobe sb"01:20
sirukinthat should do it01:20
sirukiniirc01:20
sirukinI have a sb16 card as well01:20
sirukinor sb1601:20
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somerville32Do I have to reboot or anything?01:21
sirukinnope01:22
sirukinif you reboot you'll remove the changes01:22
sirukinnow, open up "/etc/modules" and add "sb" at the bottom01:22
sirukinsudo nano /etc/modules01:22
sirukinanyway, next you need to configure your sound daemon01:22
sirukinhowever oss should work 01:22
somerville32I like alsa01:23
sirukinalsamixer01:23
somerville32alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory01:24
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sirukinyou should also consider opening kde's Control Center -> Sound & Multimedia -> Sound System -> turning on auto-suspend and setting to 1 second.01:24
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somerville32alsamixer doesn't work01:27
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sirukinhmm01:31
sirukinwhat do you mean it doesn't work?>01:31
somerville32alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory01:32
sirukinha01:32
sirukinlsmod |grep sb01:32
somerville32pastebin.com01:33
somerville32http://pastebin.com01:33
sirukinhmm01:33
somerville32hmm... What was it agian?01:33
somerville32pastebin.ca :)01:33
sirukinjust lsmod |grep sb and tell me if it shows anything01:33
somerville32it does01:33
sirukinokay01:33
sirukinI'm going to watch a dvd01:34
sirukin:S01:34
sirukinwww.linuxquestions.org01:34
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sirukinsearch there for your answer.01:34
sirukin"follow the white rabbit" and what not01:34
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somerville32bash: alsaconf: command not found01:42
_paxguys any clue why I dont see events any more on firestarter after I used a router to connect both this box and loptop?01:42
Tm_Tsomerville32: install it then ;)01:45
somerville32Which packages?01:45
Tm_Talsa-utils01:49
Tm_Tuse apt-cache search ;)01:49
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somerville32omg... no sound...01:50
somerville32I'm going to die01:50
monchylol01:52
monchyTm_T can you try this page for me, http://www.geocities.com/pierceive/adblock/ , just need to know if its just me its not working for01:53
penguinboyhey monch01:53
monchyhey penguin01:53
somerville32If I want to mount a fat32 part., what would type would I provide to mount?01:53
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monchyblah why that guy has to use geocities is beyond me.. ><01:56
abbas  have a problem kubuntu mount cdrom01:56
abbaswhen  plase cd01:56
abbasabbas abbas computer is slow01:56
Tm_Tmonchy: nah, traffic limit ;)01:56
abbas just cd but it isn't mount01:56
abbas but on the ubuntu it is mount 01:56
abbaswhy isn't mount on the kubuntu01:56
Tm_Ter01:57
Tm_Tyou mean, your cdrom doesnt automount?01:57
abbasyes01:58
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abbaswhen i justing cd my computer is slow01:59
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thechitowncubsbe helpful people :P01:59
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tuertenhi guys, i was wondering if i can get a hand02:00
Tm_Tyes?02:00
tuerteni installed bittorrent and bittornado through kynaptic but neither appear in my kubuntu apps menu02:00
Tm_Tabbas: hmm, and "amd" is installed?02:01
abbasno02:01
abbasam i install?02:02
Tm_Tplease do02:02
abbasWhat's the master map style ?        ?02:03
abbas                    ?                                      ?02:03
abbas                    ?              config                  ?02:03
abbas                    ?              onekey                  ?02:03
abbas                    ?              mountpoint              ?02:03
abbas                    ?              custom      02:03
somerville32Can anyone help me set up sound?02:09
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abbasisn't do02:09
Tm_Tuhm02:10
abbasetc/init.d/am-utils: line 38: ypcat: command not found02:14
abbas/etc/init.d/am-utils: cannot find master map02:14
abbasinvoke-rc.d: initscript am-utils, action "start" failed.02:14
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Tm_Thmm02:16
abbasTm_T  can you see by krdc 02:17
Tm_Tkrdc?02:17
abbasremote desktop connectin02:18
somerville32How do I reinstall alsa?02:18
Tm_Tah02:19
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Tm_Tsomerville32: apt-get reinstall ?02:19
somerville32I don't even know the packages I need :(02:20
somerville32alsaconf and alsamixer don't work02:20
somerville32alsaconf just doesn't exist02:20
somerville32How do I mount my fat32 drives?02:20
abbasinstall xine 02:20
somerville32somerville32@box:~$ sudo mount -t auto /dev/hdc1/ /windows/02:20
somerville32Password:02:20
somerville32mount: special device /dev/hdc1/ does not exist02:20
somerville32       (a path prefix is not a directory)02:20
abbasTm_T ?02:22
Tm_Tsomerville32: /dev/hdc1 02:22
Tm_Tno trailing slash02:23
Tm_Tabbas: sorry, can't help atm :/02:23
abbasTm_T thanks02:24
abbasmount -t vfat /dev/hdc1 /mnt/windows02:24
abbasmkdir /home/USER/WINDOWS02:29
abbassudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdc1 /home/USER/WINDOWS02:29
abbassomerville32?02:31
abbasit is ok.02:32
somerville32:)02:32
somerville32Still no sound!02:32
Tm_T:p02:32
abbasapt-get install xine02:32
Tm_Tgst <302:32
abbasfor amorak02:32
abbasamorak is use xine02:33
somerville32E: Couldn't find package xine02:33
abbasamorak is use gxine02:33
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abbasapt-get install amarok-xine02:34
somerville32Couldn't find package amarok-xine02:34
abbasapt-cache search xine02:34
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somerville32It says stuff02:35
abbaslibarts1-xine02:35
somerville320 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 34 not upgraded.02:36
abbasapt-get install libarts1-xine02:36
somerville32Music!02:36
somerville32I hear music!02:36
somerville32Music from juk!02:36
somerville32I hear sound!02:37
somerville32omg!02:37
Heart_2how can i change utf8 to iso-.... on kubuntu?02:37
somerville32Sound!02:37
abbasapt-get install amorak02:37
somerville32I already have amorak02:38
Tm_Tamorak?02:38
Tm_THeart_2: dpkg-reconfigure locales02:39
Tm_TamaroK is great02:39
abbasamorak for listen music02:39
Tm_Tyeah02:40
somerville32amarok won't play music for me02:40
Tm_TI use 1.3-svn02:40
Tm_Tsomerville32: any errors?02:40
Tm_Ttry gst w/ osssink02:40
somerville32no, it just doesn't play02:42
Tm_Tyup, engine problem02:42
Tm_Tcheck if ossing works02:42
somerville32The other playres work02:42
abbasuse xine engine02:42
somerville32Ok, it is working now!02:42
Tm_Tyeah02:42
Tm_Tsomerville32: \o/02:42
somerville32Omg... why is this so on and off :-/02:43
somerville32Ok, I think I got things working now02:43
Tm_Tgreat :)02:43
somerville32The funny thing is... I haven't done anything really02:44
Tm_Tyup02:45
somerville32Must be the work of the devil02:45
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Tm_Tsomerville32: ...and amaroK developes with speed: queuemanager <3 http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/amarok_007.jpg02:47
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tuertenhi, i know its probably a stupid problem, but, i installed bittorrent and bittornado through kynaptic but neither appear in my kubuntu apps menu. how do i fix it?02:55
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ChurcH_of_FoamYok i've come to a conclusion03:02
liz4rdwhats that03:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat the guy running the mailing lists is very weard03:03
liz4rdlol03:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYno offence to him03:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYjust very very strange03:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYif you want i can pastebin the e-mails03:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYthere so odd03:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYmuch more odder than my original idea03:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhich was to create a os for a specfic group of people that have nothing03:04
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<03:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYdunno maybe it was a dumb idea anyway03:06
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhey transgress can i pm you?03:09
transgressyeah03:09
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_somerville32Problem: Kynaptic won't load03:38
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_somerville32nvm03:39
_somerville32It is just super slow :P03:39
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penguinboyevening guys03:49
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penguinboywelcome utta03:52
monchyhey penguin what did you do to liz4rd he's been so quiet lol03:54
_somerville32Hey03:55
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penguinboyi threatened to let transgress loose on him if he didn't shape up03:55
popeyeraycan java be enabled with ubuntu?03:56
penguinboyYES03:56
monchyubuntuguide.org03:56
sbcl3popeyeray: what exactly do you need?03:56
sbcl3you may need to add a few things to /etc/apt/sources.list03:56
popeyerayjdk 1.5 how to enable 03:56
sbcl3okay03:56
sbcl3yes03:56
sbcl3you'll have to add sources03:56
sbcl3hold on one second03:56
popeyerayi have problems with the etc alternatives 03:56
_somerville32Can't you just go to the java site and download the installer?03:57
popeyerayno the system java is in usr bin java set hard03:57
sbcl3popeyeray:03:57
sbcl3deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted03:57
sbcl3deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted03:57
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penguinboywelcoem Simon03:57
_Simonhey guys, I was wondering what the gtk-qt theme package is called, I can't find it anywhere in kynaptic03:58
sbcl3add that and then apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.503:58
popeyerayokay i'll try that thanks03:58
_Simongnome apps like firefox look like ass on kubuntu03:58
_Simonlol03:58
sbcl3thats why theres konqueror03:58
sbcl3does gecko actually have any advantages over KHTML?03:58
_Simonwell it was just an example03:58
sbcl3i've found KHTML just as reliable03:58
_SimonI'm not doing it for firefox03:58
_SimonI just used that for a common known app hehe03:59
sbcl3simon: there isn't a qt port for firefox?03:59
_Simonlike I said, its not firefox I'm worried about03:59
_Simonjust using it as an example03:59
sbcl3i know03:59
sbcl3i use about 7 gtk apps on kde03:59
_pax_Simon: you need plastikfox theme then we'll talk.03:59
_Simon_pax: I'm not looking for firefox, again it was just an example lol03:59
sbcl3is there a "keramikfox"?03:59
_somerville32I love the plastik theme :)03:59
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_SimonI'm looking for general gnome apps to theme with qt using that gtk-qt theme thingy04:00
_Simonhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4011904:00
_SimonI'm running MonoDevelop on kubuntu, but looks like ass with flat gtk look04:00
_Simonbut couldn't find that package in kynaptic04:00
sbcl3guys...if i've installed an apt with ./configure, and want to upgrade, do i do a "make clean" instead of just plain old "make"?04:01
_somerville32Ummm...04:02
_somerville32My computer is making weird noises now...04:02
sbcl3that can't be good04:02
popeyeray apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.504:02
popeyerayCouldn't find package sun-j2sdk1.504:02
popeyerayIt didn't work04:02
sbcl3popeyeray: did you refresh the package info?04:02
sbcl3(apt-get update)04:02
popeyerayokay let me try that04:02
_Simonis gtk2-engines-gtk-qt somewhere in the package list for apt? I can't find it anywhere04:03
sbcl3or, in kynaptic, hit the refresh button04:03
_Simondo I need to add another repository to apt somehow to get gtk2-engines-gtk-qt?04:05
sbcl3what does gtk2-engines-gtk-qt do?04:06
_Simonit makes your GTK apps take on your current Qt theme04:06
sbcl3cool~04:06
sbcl3*!04:06
sbcl3where can i get that?04:07
_Simonyes very, well thats my problem04:07
sbcl3hmm04:07
_SimonI found forum topics about people doing it, but nobody explains where to get the package from!04:07
_Simonlike this one04:07
_Simonhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4011904:07
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sbcl3http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2550704:08
sbcl3and this one04:08
sbcl3http://everybody.good-day.net/~ikuya/debian/sarge/gtk2-engines-gtk-qt/04:09
sbcl3can you get it there?04:10
_Simonsuppose but I was hoping for a stable ubuntu/kubuntu package04:10
sbcl3i don't think there is one04:11
_Simonwell people in some forums were apt-get the package04:12
_Simonbut it doesn't find it on my apt04:12
sbcl3wait a sec...04:12
sbcl3http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/kde/gtk2-engines-gtk-qt04:12
sbcl3i think that one package is down04:12
sbcl3(this was the first google result)04:12
sbcl3oh wait04:12
sbcl3it does work04:12
sbcl3yeah; just go there04:12
_Simonok so why can't we find this with apt then?04:13
sbcl3dunno04:13
sbcl3goot question04:13
sbcl3*good04:13
sbcl3how do you install a .deb package?04:14
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monchysudo dpkg -i name.deb04:15
sbcl3thanks04:15
_Simonmonchy: any ideas why apt can't find this package?04:15
penguinboyand the prize goes to the monchmeister04:15
monchyyay what do i win04:15
monchyand it better not be anything homosexual04:15
_Simonhaha04:15
penguinboya kiss from the Lizrd Man04:16
monchynot sure _Simon, btw04:16
monchyew04:16
penguinboymonchy loves me even though I have an IRC boyfriend!04:16
sbcl3simon: how do we activate/control this?04:16
monchylmao04:16
_Simonits supposed to show up under kcontrol, appearance04:16
sbcl3the kde control center?04:16
_Simonbut I can't find the damn package!04:17
_Simonyeah04:17
penguinboyMonch...Here is Linux for $800.....how do you turn an RPM into a DEB?04:17
sbcl3simon: the link i gave you works04:17
penguinboy20 seconds04:17
_Simonyeah but I would like to make it work with apt04:17
penguinboy15 seconds monch04:17
_Simonis there something you have to do, to get packages from universe?04:17
monchywith alien04:17
penguinboyno04:18
monchycan't remember the exact command04:18
penguinboythe command line 04:18
penguinboy10 seconds04:18
_Simonhuh?04:18
monchygo look it up if you need it lol04:18
_Simonkynaptic can't search universe repository?04:18
penguinboyi thought we were playing Jeopardy04:18
sbcl3simon:yeah, it shows up04:18
monchywe were? i haven't been paying much attention04:18
sbcl3but my gtk apps don't look nice04:18
penguinboysniff sniff...Monch...i can;t believe it...sniff sniff...you are telling me to RTFM!04:19
monchythat's right! :p04:19
sbcl3simon: might this need a session restart?04:19
_Simonno clue, you have to choose a gtk theme04:20
_Simonwhere did you get the deb? I don't see it anywhere :(04:20
_paxI just installed gtk2-engines-gtk-qt from synaptic along with 5 other themes04:20
_Simon_pax: how!?04:20
_paxwell search for gtk2-engines-gtk-qt04:20
_SimonI search in kynaptic and I don't see it at all04:20
_SimonI did, it doesn't show up :(04:20
_paxweird04:20
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sbcl3_pax: i've installed it; how do i activate it?04:20
_Simondo I have to add something to my apt list04:21
_Simon?04:21
sbcl3all my gtk apps still look real ugly04:21
_paxsbcl3: Kontrol center04:21
_Simonthis is very frustrating.. sigh04:21
_paxControl center > Appearence > GTK styles04:21
_Simonright when I thought package management was getting user friendly switching from redhat to kubuntu04:21
penguinboySimon download the rpm if you can find it04:21
_Simonlol04:21
sbcl3_pax: the apps don't change though04:22
_paxthey should.04:22
_SimonI can't find the package anywhere04:22
sbcl3hmm04:22
penguinboywhat are you lookngi for04:22
sbcl3seems to work now04:22
sbcl3thanks04:22
_paxstart something like gftp and see the differnce04:22
_paxoh, great.04:22
_Simongtk2-engines-gtk-qt 04:23
_Simoncan't find it anywhere in apt :(04:23
_Simonsigh, getting really frustrated04:25
_paxwget http://everybody.good-day.net/~ikuya/debian/sarge/gtk2-engines-gtk-qt/gtk2-engines-gtk-qt_0.60-0.1_i386.deb04:25
_Simonok I got it, but why do all the ubuntu forums say just get it from apt04:26
_Simonand kubuntu can't find it anywhere04:26
penguinboydepends on how good your repository listing is04:26
penguinboydoes anyone know the proper syntax for makedeb???04:26
_Simonwhat do you mean how good? isn't my repo the same as everyone elses?04:26
penguinboyno04:27
penguinboyyou can customize your list04:27
LeeJunFanmine is bigger than yours.04:27
penguinboynot everyones source.list is the same04:27
LeeJunFan:)04:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know of a really good lcars theme for kubuntu?04:27
penguinboyLOL04:27
penguinboyLOL04:27
_Simonhow do you customize it? how do you add so you can get packages from universe?04:27
_Simonthats where it says its located04:27
penguinboycheck www.kde-look.com04:27
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi did04:27
_pax_Simon: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories04:27
penguinboysi04:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYthere all lcars hybrids04:28
sbcl3isn't it kde-look.org?04:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYnothing really next generation 04:28
LeeJunFan_Simon: and man sources.list to understand it.04:28
_Simonok thanks04:28
_Simonhmm how did you get it to take on the new theme? it shows up in kcontrol now04:28
penguinboysimon from terminal type cd etc/apts04:28
_Simonbut the app still looks ol04:28
_Simonold04:28
penguinboyand then sudo pico sources.list04:28
penguinboythat will show you your repositiories04:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea i went ro kde-look and they really arn't lcars :(04:29
penguinboysend me your Email and I will send you my sources.list...it is comprehensive04:29
_Simonahh there we go04:29
_Simonpicked Qt04:29
_Simonmust be a little bug in the themer, cool this is awesome :)04:29
_paxpenguinboy: evilhorn@gmail.com04:29
penguinboydoes anyone know the proper syntax for makedeb04:30
_Simonthanks a ton guys!04:30
_pax_Simon: that tells me, it's working :)04:30
_Simonhehehe04:31
_Simonlooks much nicer now!04:31
penguinboypax: on its way!04:33
penguinboydoes anyone know the proper syntax for makedeb04:33
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penguinboyhey buddy boy04:33
penguinboymake way for the Linux god04:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYsteps aside ^_^04:37
penguinboyO_o04:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone here know what  talisman is?04:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYi tryed google but don't seem to be able to find anything on it04:39
penguinboyO_o04:43
penguinboyp_O04:46
penguinboyhelp makedeb04:52
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penguinboyJeezis how do you turn an rpm into a deb04:54
crimsunuse alien04:54
penguinboyyes i know...but i would like to kniow the script04:54
crimsunalien -i foo.rpm04:55
penguinboythans04:56
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhow to install a theme for kde?04:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYtheres a readme file but nothing it contains tells you how to install the theme04:57
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ChurcH_of_FoamY?04:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYhello?04:59
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penguinboyOCTANE!05:03
penguinboyi need your help buddy boy05:03
Octanepenguinboy, whats up man05:03
penguinboyi need to install shockwave, flash, and azureus05:04
penguinboyi downloaded the flash tarball and ran tar05:04
penguinboydo i need to do more>?05:04
Octaneuhm05:05
penguinboylike make install05:05
Octaneyou run x86 or 64?05:05
penguinboyx8605:05
LeeJunFanpenguinboy: hehe, then consider yourself over 1/2 way there :)05:05
penguinboylol05:05
penguinboylol05:05
penguinboylol05:06
penguinboywhat do i do next then LeeJunFan 05:06
penguinboyi tried ./configure, make, and make install but got errors05:06
LeeJunFanyou need to copy the libs from the flash tarball to your plugins dir.05:06
penguinboyyou gotta be kidding05:06
LeeJunFanpenguinboy: there's nothing to config/make since it's binary only.05:07
penguinboypenguinboy@desktop:~/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux$ ls05:07
penguinboyflashplayer-installer  flashplayer.xpt  libflashplayer.so  Readme.htm  Readme.txt05:07
penguinboythis is the content of the directory05:07
LeeJunFanjunfan@jkd:~/.mozilla/plugins$ ls05:07
LeeJunFanflashplayer.xpt  libflashplayer.so05:07
penguinboyyes I see the readme.txt but asking is so muchmore fun05:07
LeeJunFanjust copy those 2 files to ~/.mozilla/plugins/.05:08
penguinboypenguinboy@desktop:~/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux$ cd ~/.mozilla/plugins/05:09
penguinboybash: cd: /home/penguinboy/.mozilla/plugins/: No such file or directory05:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYis .xpm a valid theme file for kubuntu05:09
LeeJunFanmkdir -p ~/.mozilla/plugins05:09
penguinboythen just copy05:10
LeeJunFanyeah05:11
penguinboywould the suntax be copy /home/penguinboy/Dekstop/install_flash_player_7_linux/flashplayer.xpt /home/penguinboy/.mozilla/plugins/???05:11
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penguinboynope 05:12
LeeJunFancp05:12
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penguinboywhy didn;t this work????05:14
penguinboypenguinboy@desktop:~/.mozilla/plugins$ cp flashplayer.xpt home/penguinboy/.mozilla/plugins/05:15
penguinboycp: cannot stat `flashplayer.xpt': No such file or directory05:15
penguinboythe tilde05:15
penguinboyno tilde05:15
LeeJunFanyou aren't in the directory where the file is.05:15
LeeJunFanso cp doesn't see it.05:15
penguinboyno what?05:16
penguinboynow05:16
penguinboyenguinboy@desktop:~/.mozilla/plugins$ cp flashplayer.xpt home/penguinboy/.mozilla/plugins/05:16
penguinboycp: cannot stat `flashplayer.xpt': No such file or directory05:16
LeeJunFanyou still aren't in the dir where flashplayer.xpt is, you are in the dir where it's going to go.05:17
LeeJunFanyou can specify the path of where it is and give . as the destination.05:17
LeeJunFanie. cp ~/<wherever the fuck the dir is>/flashplayer.xpt .05:18
LeeJunFanmeans to copy from ~/<wherever the fuck the dir is>/flashplayer.xpt    and put it in your current directory (.)05:18
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penguinboypenguinboy@desktop:~/install_flash_player_7_linux$ ls05:19
penguinboyflashplayer-installer  flashplayer.xpt  libflashplayer.so  Readme.htm  Readme.txt05:19
penguinboypenguinboy@desktop:~/install_flash_player_7_linux$ cp flashplayer.xpt home/penguinboy/~/.mozilla/plugins/05:19
penguinboycp: cannot create regular file `home/penguinboy/~/.mozilla/plugins/flashplayer.xpt': No such file or directory05:19
penguinboypenguinboy@desktop:~/install_flash_player_7_linux$       05:19
LeeJunFanwhat's wrong with this destination? home/penguinboy/~/.mozilla/plugins/flashplayer.xpt05:20
penguinboycalgon take me away05:20
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penguinboyoops05:20
LeeJunFanyou must be an old bastard like me to remember that calgon shit.05:20
penguinboylol05:21
penguinboy2505:21
BrazmetalHey people... Could someone take a look at my thread at ubuntuforums.org??? It's a printer problem05:22
penguinboyokay files copied...now what LeeJunFan 05:24
BrazmetalHey people... Could someone take a look at my thread at ubuntuforums.org??? It's a printer problem05:25
penguinboysorry....I do nto know printers05:25
Brazmetalhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=221732#post22173205:25
LeeJunFanpenguinboy: you should be good to go.05:25
penguinboygracias05:25
LeeJunFanpenguinboy: load up firefox or mozilla and type in the address bar: about:plugins05:26
penguinboynow can you aptitude get shockwave or is it a tarball?05:26
LeeJunFanit should show you the installed plugins, and flash should be in the list.05:26
LeeJunFanDon't know that shockwave is avail for linux?05:26
LeeJunFanpenguinboy: afaik just flashplayer is.05:26
penguinboyflash is there!05:27
penguinboygracias mi amigo05:27
LeeJunFanhttp://www.petitiononline.com/linuxswp/petition.html05:27
LeeJunFanyou're welcome05:27
LeeJunFanBrazmetal: do you have a ppd driver for your printer from linuxprinting.org?05:31
penguinboythere are now 10,588 signatures05:31
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BrazmetalLeeJunFan, yes... It comes with cupsys05:32
LeeJunFanBrazmetal: but the one from the site is likely newer and may include fixes. ie - the one included in hoary doesn't work with my laserjet1012, but the one from the site does.05:36
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[ADULT_SWIM] um is a .xpm file a valid theme file?05:40
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penguinboypenguinboy@desktop:~/Desktop/Downloads/Azureus$ bunzip2 Azureus_2.3.0.2_linux.GTK.tar.bz205:50
penguinboypenguinboy@desktop:~/Desktop/Downloads/Azureus$ ls05:50
penguinboyAzureus_2.3.0.2_linux.GTK.tar05:50
penguinboypenguinboy@desktop:~/Desktop/Downloads/Azureus$               05:50
penguinboyubuntu:  what do I do now???  05:50
penguinboydo I tar it05:50
[ADULT_SWIM] can anyone help me install a theme (think it's a theme) in kubuntu?05:56
[ADULT_SWIM] i'm having a hard time trying to figure it out05:57
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[ADULT_SWIM] um ok06:02
[ADULT_SWIM] diden't mean to >.<06:02
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[ADULT_SWIM] there it's back to normal >.<06:02
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:_pax] : "http://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kubuntu-5.04.3-i386-live.iso | KDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | Wiki Transition Tuesday | Use archive.ubuntu.com if us.archive.ubuntu.com gives md5sum errors | sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list".
[ADULT_SWIM] whoa neat06:05
[ADULT_SWIM] well at least theres something usefull there now06:05
[ADULT_SWIM] so no one knows how to install a theme06:05
_paxwhat kinda theme?06:06
[ADULT_SWIM] it's a star trek theme for kde 06:07
[ADULT_SWIM] but theme manager dosen't see it06:07
[ADULT_SWIM] and i can't figure out the documentation06:07
_paxno readme?06:07
[ADULT_SWIM] it's beyond my lvl of understanding at this time06:07
[ADULT_SWIM] yea there is but nothing that indicates what to do06:07
[ADULT_SWIM] it just tells who made it basicly06:08
[ADULT_SWIM] there is 1 file in there called lcars441.schema06:09
[ADULT_SWIM] and one that looks like a gear that says LCARS_ACCESS_441.themerc06:10
[ADULT_SWIM] but that it 06:10
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[ADULT_SWIM] _pax you there?06:11
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_paxyes sir06:12
[ADULT_SWIM] oh ok any ideas?06:12
_paxif the theme is a mes can't you find a better one?06:12
[ADULT_SWIM] i could try06:13
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PaloDeQuesoSo I'm trying to manually install the latest nvidia drivers and I got to the point where it wants to start compiling, like it found /usr/src/linux and was happy, but then it gave an error message say ing I should read the log and exited :( So I read the log and I can't make haeads or tails of it, perhaps someone can help?06:29
duendeAnyone know how to stop konqueror from auto-opening a deb file in kate?  When i look in file associations, it associates it with ark, but when i click on a deb file on kde-apps.org, it autoopens in kate06:32
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi was just wondering are there diffrent k-bars avalible?06:36
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ChurcH_of_FoamYit eccos throughout the room ^_^07:03
monchyso dead in here tonight07:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea07:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just got outta the shower lol07:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's been dead for like 2 hours07:04
liz4rdFUCK07:04
liz4rdCHEESE07:04
liz4rdhappy?07:05
liz4rd:P07:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol07:05
liz4rdlets start somethign to talk aboutthen07:05
monchyyour lucky penguin isn't here foamy07:05
liz4rdi'm bored aswell07:05
monchyhe'd jump on you07:05
liz4rdprobly07:05
liz4rdthen whip it out07:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhy?07:05
liz4rdcuz he's homo07:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_o07:05
liz4rdwe dont know why he hasnt let the joke die07:05
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liz4rdwe think he achully likes me07:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_o07:05
liz4rdyeah i know :P07:05
monchyhe's going to propose to you 1 of these days liz lol07:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow'd it start07:06
liz4rdi wouldnt doubt it07:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYcreepy07:06
liz4rdmonchy explain07:06
monchyexplain what07:06
liz4rdhow this all started07:06
liz4rdwith penguinboy07:06
monchyi can't remember07:06
liz4rdfucking stoner07:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYwow07:07
monchylol07:07
liz4rdwell i'll explain then07:07
ChurcH_of_FoamY<--same ^_^07:07
monchyi like the drink07:07
liz4rd,-- aswell ^_^07:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYwine rocks ^_^07:07
monchycanadian club, crown royal07:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYwine and weed the perfect breakfast07:07
monchyhad this homemade moonshine once and i almost died07:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYouch07:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just tryed a new drink07:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYuv vodka and sprite07:08
liz4rdok well this one day i thought it would be funny to come on to someone in here and he poped up and then...he went along with it and ever since he hasnt let it die calling me cupcake and shit07:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYit rocks so hard core07:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYomg07:08
liz4rdi kknow07:08
monchyah i used to be able to drink vodka07:08
monchynow the smell makes me sick07:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat so sucks when a joke backfires07:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYnot this shit it smells like blue berrys07:08
liz4rdyeah, so we think hes gonna try asking me to marry him 07:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYouch07:09
liz4rdi think i got to find away to let him down...easyu07:09
monchychange your name and get plastic surgery07:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYtell him your with another man07:09
liz4rdthat will do it07:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_o07:09
liz4rdthanks monchy07:09
liz4rdyour so clever07:09
liz4rd...07:09
monchyyeah you could be with foamy lol07:09
liz4rdnot07:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_o07:09
liz4rdlol yeah then penguinboy will get jelouse07:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol07:10
liz4rdwate no then transgress will go after foamy07:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYgross 07:10
liz4rdi mean07:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYhe's kinda weard sometimes07:10
liz4rdwith a gun07:10
monchyshit who cares i just don't want to see 'snickerdoodle' on my screen anymore07:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol07:10
liz4rdlike freek out on you :P07:10
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monchywho the hell says snickerdoodle07:10
ChurcH_of_FoamY??07:10
liz4rdyeah thats one thing he does alot07:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYare there diffrent types of k-bar you can get?07:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYinstead of this blocky thing?07:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYand snikerdoodle what the hells that?07:11
liz4rdits a name he calles me07:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYsounds like gross07:11
liz4rdno kidinh07:11
monchytheres a bunch of names but i cant remember07:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYhey call him a buttdart07:12
monchyjust snickerdoodle bc its so homo07:12
liz4rdhis screennames penguinboy so if you see him around yell at him and tell him i died07:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYand tell him to go away 07:12
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ChurcH_of_FoamYlol07:12
anti-penguinboy^_^07:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYi freakin hate it when a joke backfires07:12
anti-penguinboyyeah07:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYmakes me want to kill the sonofabitch that made it happen07:13
anti-penguinboylol07:13
monchyso he should kill himself? lol07:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmmm that sounds about right07:14
anti-penguinboyi agree07:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYmaybe hang himself by his balls with fishooks and get hit by a semi?07:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYthen backed over just to make shure?07:14
anti-penguinboyoh your good07:14
ChurcH_of_FoamY>insert evil smile and laugh here<07:14
anti-penguinboy^-^07:15
anti-penguinboy^_^*07:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYi know give him a "lament configureation07:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's kinda sad but the cube from hellraser actually exists irl07:15
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ChurcH_of_FoamYas well as about 300 other creations07:15
anti-penguinboylol07:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYi thought it was just a movie prop07:16
anti-penguinboy:P07:16
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://www.pyramid-gallery.com/index.html#174907:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYyou can by replicas here07:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/hillcrest/76/hellraiser/lemarchard-history.html07:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYand here is his story07:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYor whats known of it07:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYactually kind of creppy07:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYcreepy even07:21
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:ChurcH_of_FoamY] : it might be for kubuntu but right now it's the "Dead Zone"
ChurcH_of_FoamYso is it dead in here or what?07:24
crimsunplease restore the topic.07:26
monchyyes i believe so07:26
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monchyanyone can change it? oO07:26
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:mrmanic] : "http://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kubuntu-5.04.3-i386-live.iso | KDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | Wiki Transition Tuesday | Use archive.ubuntu.com if us.archive.ubuntu.com gives md5sum errors | sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list".
Philip_LeMarchanyea07:27
Philip_LeMarchanfor some reason i gusse07:27
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mrmanicProbably because there are never any ops here.07:30
PhilipLeMarchandoh07:30
PhilipLeMarchandi wasent trying to be rud07:30
PhilipLeMarchandi'm sorry07:30
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Gheteki have a remote share in my "remote:/" dirctory that i made via the "add network share" folder. the share accesses an FTP and i have my kopete set to go into that share folder and drop an html file that says my current online status. the problem is that every time that kopete wants to upload it to that ftp folder, KDE asks for a password and i have to enter it every time. any ideas?09:29
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liz4rdOMG PEOPLE TALK10:34
liz4rdASK SHIT10:34
liz4rd...cheese10:34
liz4rdk10:34
liz4rdi'm done10:34
sirukinhmm10:37
sirukinit's 3 am10:37
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liz4rd2:40 for me10:37
liz4rd:P10:37
sirukinclose enough10:37
liz4rd:P10:38
liz4rdwhat are you doing then?10:38
sirukingoing to bed soonish10:38
liz4rdish10:39
liz4rd:P10:39
sirukinlain-ep1110:39
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liz4rdhey10:43
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iulikhi10:44
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iulikhow can i install kubuntu from ubuntu ?10:44
thoreauputiciulik: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:45
thoreauputiciulik: that's it10:46
iuliki tried this but it won't work10:46
thoreauputicsure it works - I've done it :/10:46
iuliklet me tell you what it's saying:10:47
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iulikReading package lists... Done10:47
iulikBuilding dependency tree... Done10:47
iulikE: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop10:47
iulik:(10:47
thoreauputiciulik: your /etc/apt/sources.list is incomplete10:48
iulikand how can i complete it?10:48
thoreauputiciulik: have you altered your sources at all?10:48
iuliki'm new in linux10:49
thoreauputicOK10:49
iulikthis is my first linux installation10:49
liz4rdyay10:49
liz4rdwelcome10:49
iuliklearning :)10:49
thoreauputiciulik: do you know how to edit a file or do you want to point-and-click?10:50
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iulik:) ofcourse?10:50
thoreauputiciulik: you can enable sources in the package manager ( synaptic)10:50
liz4rduse aptitude or apt-getr10:50
otepei10:50
liz4rdget*10:50
DanielCHey, where could I see some screenshots of kubuntu?10:50
liz4rdDaniel: google?10:51
DanielCI tried.10:51
DanielC:(10:51
iuliki tried this but i could't find kde10:51
thoreauputiciulik: if you don't mind a bit of simple editing, do this:10:51
DanielCI'm looking around kubuntu.org10:51
cazabamDanielC: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=286&slide=110:51
DanielCthanks10:51
iuliki edit sources.list10:51
thoreauputiciulik: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    and remove the # mark from the lines starting with "deb"10:52
iuliki did that, i'm trying to install10:52
thoreauputicthen sudo apt-get update10:52
thoreauputicwell, if it can't find kubuntu-desktop you made a mistake10:52
iulikno such file or directory10:53
iulikW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ro.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:54
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iulikwhat shoul i do in this case?10:55
thoreauputiciulik: try a different mirror perhaps - remove the ro. from all lines so you have archive.ubuntu.com10:55
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thoreauputicdon't forget to reload/update after editing10:55
thoreauputicarchive.ubuntu.com is the default server ( in the UK i think)10:56
iulikReading package lists... Done10:56
iulikBuilding dependency tree... Done10:56
iulikW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:56
iulikwhat server should i try?10:56
thoreauputiciulik: that's odd - maybe they are synching the server - try again in an hour or two perhaps10:57
iulikok10:57
iuliki will10:57
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thoreauputiciulik: are you sure your sources.list is correct? It's easy to get it slightly wrong and not notice...10:59
Kamping_Kaiserlike a space at the start or end :S10:59
iuliklook:10:59
iulikdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe11:01
iulikdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe11:01
iulikdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted11:01
iulikdeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted11:01
iulikdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe11:01
iulikdeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe11:01
iuliki think is ok11:01
liz4rdOMG REPOS!!!11:02
liz4rd:P11:02
thoreauputiciulik: no11:02
Kamping_Kaiser:P11:02
iulikno :)11:02
thoreauputiciulik: where is main?11:02
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thoreauputiciulik: you have security, but you've lost main11:03
iulikwhat main?11:03
thoreauputiciulik: I can show you mine in #flood if you wish11:04
thoreauputiciulik: main is the most imposrtant repo :)11:04
iulikok11:04
iulikshow me 11:04
thoreauputiciulik: /join #flood11:05
iuliki am on #flood11:05
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liz4rdpastebin.com11:06
thoreauputiciulik: got it?11:06
iulikyes11:07
Kamping_Kaiserdo Kubuntu have thier own reppos?11:07
liz4rdyes11:07
Kamping_Kaiseroh, i thought they used ubuntus11:08
thoreauputicKamping_Kaiser: umm... the repos are the same except for security I think11:08
liz4rdyeah11:09
Kamping_Kaiseroh OK. 11:09
Kamping_Kaisermight record that... i thought they were the same11:09
thoreauputicKamping_Kaiser: they are mostly11:09
iulikW: Couldn't stat source package list http://au.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/au.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)11:09
thoreauputicKamping_Kaiser: this is the only extra line I have:11:10
thoreauputicdeb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main11:10
Kamping_KaiserOK. didnt know you were in aust :o11:10
DanielChttp://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2005062000926RVSW#talkback_area11:10
iulikyes but is shoul work11:10
DanielC11:10
iulikdoesn't mather the country (i think)11:10
Kamping_Kaiseri get them from Internode, so countires irellevent11:11
thoreauputiciulik: that list works fine - something else is wrong then11:11
Kamping_Kaiserbut no, it's not a problem afaik11:11
thoreauputiciulik: you did do ` sudo apt-get update ` ?11:12
thoreauputicor reload in synaptic11:12
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thoreauputicactually the au. machine is in the UK - heh :)11:12
iuliki updated now, i think it works11:12
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iulikhow long you use linux?11:13
thoreauputiciulik: update each time you use synaptic or apt - it makes sure you have a complete up to date listing11:13
Kamping_Kaiserlol theor11:13
thoreauputiciulik: about 2 and a half years11:14
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iulikok11:14
thoreauputicKamping_Kaiser: you're with internode? Happy with them?11:15
Kamping_Kaiserhell yes :D11:15
thoreauputicKamping_Kaiser: I'm considering them as ISP11:15
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thoreauputicheheh11:15
Kamping_Kaiserthoreauputic, they mirror lots of Linux, so if that's your thing, they are greate11:16
thoreauputicKamping_Kaiser: they keep the Ubuntu repos up to date ?11:16
Kamping_Kaiseryes11:16
Kamping_Kaiserusualy they are less then 12 hours out11:16
thoreauputicgood :)11:16
Kamping_Kaiserthe list of files they have is 125MB  :S11:17
Kamping_Kaiserthey have about 1.6TB of data IIRC11:17
thoreauputicKamping_Kaiser: I've heard good things about them11:17
Kamping_KaiserInternode users don't like people talking badness about thier isp... 11:17
Kamping_Kaiserwhether it's true or not11:17
thoreauputicheheh - you drank all the kool-aid then ;-) ?11:18
Kamping_Kaiserlol. i don't drink it ;)11:18
thoreauputicKamping_Kaiser: you're in WA right ?11:19
Kamping_Kaisernope. SA11:19
thoreauputicah11:19
Kamping_Kaiserhome of Internode ;)11:19
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thoreauputicinternode are SA based I believe ?11:19
Kamping_Kaiseryes11:19
Kamping_Kaiserand agile, thier sister company11:19
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Kamping_Kaisero_0 full on11:20
Kamping_Kaiserwho you with now?11:20
thoreauputicKamping_Kaiser: oh, I'm still on dialup with optusnet :(11:21
thoreauputicoptus is OK though11:21
Kamping_Kaiseroh .... :(11:21
iulikWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!11:21
iulik  kaffeine knetworkconf11:21
iuliki got that answer (up )11:21
Kamping_KaiserO-o11:21
thoreauputiciulik: oh - just ignore that11:21
iulikok11:21
Kamping_Kaiseryeh, pres y11:21
thoreauputicit's because your gpg keys are wrong11:22
iuliksorry, but i don't know what is a gcp key?11:22
thoreauputicit's a key that allows the server to authenticate - as you are using the righ tserver, i wouldn't worry11:23
iulikwhat shoul i know aboun (in) linux ?11:23
thoreauputicgpg = gnu privacy guard or something like that (not sure)11:23
iulikfor a beginner?11:23
Kamping_Kaiserwhen your working on cray, then you care, if not, it's not a problem ;) securitys not that big an isue11:23
thoreauputiciulik: that's like asking "what should I know about the Universe?"11:24
thoreauputicheh11:24
iulik:))11:24
thoreauputiciulik: have a look at http://tuxfiles.org11:24
iulikhow it got in this stage :)  (joking)11:25
thoreauputiciulik: and the ubuntu wiki11:25
iulikk11:25
Kamping_Kaiseri have about 200 mb of ebooks etc ready for download...11:25
iulikwhere?11:27
Kamping_Kaiserthe wiki?11:27
Kamping_Kaiserubuntulinux.org/wiki11:27
Kamping_Kaiserand ubuntuguide.org11:27
Kamping_Kaiserand ubuntuforums.org are good11:27
iulikno, the adress where you have 200 mb of ebooks11:27
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Kamping_Kaiserfrom all over the place.11:28
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unomeAny recent interesting ebooks?11:49
Kamping_Kaiserhavent looked at any. just got pointed at them. still have to look11:49
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unomeah11:50
Kamping_Kaiserhi chameleon2211:50
Kamping_Kaiserwhat do people think of python as a language?11:50
Chameleon22ello all11:51
liz4rdChameleon22 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11:51
liz4rd*tackles*11:51
Kamping_Kaiser:)11:51
Chameleon22i personaly dont like it but it is gaining a very big industry follwoing 11:51
Kamping_Kaiserany particular reason you don't like it?11:51
liz4rdi have alwasy wanted to learn python11:51
Chameleon22and its quiet powerful in terms of what you can do with it although OO parts of it look they were "grafted" on later11:52
Chameleon22i dont like it... dont like language syntax lol11:52
Chameleon22thats about the only reason 11:52
Chameleon22everything else is great about that language but i already know enough to learn that one :p11:52
Kamping_Kaiseri have nothing to compare it with realy. i did a bit of cpp before, and some bash now. no real coding at all thought11:53
Kamping_Kaiser*though11:53
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Chameleon22well cpp will let you learn most languages quiet fast 11:53
Chameleon22as will c11:53
unomewhen setting a browser as default (to pick up clicked links), what do you end the comand with? u% ?11:53
Chameleon22although i think java or c# is excellent as a first language11:53
liz4rdi want python to be my first11:54
liz4rdXD that sounded wrong11:54
liz4rdmmmmm i love lizards :P11:54
Chameleon22liz4yes it did my yuong friend11:54
unometrying to set firefox as the default in Kubuntu11:54
Chameleon22liz4rd, i wouldnt recomend it 11:54
liz4rdnothign els seems easyer11:54
Chameleon22Java or C# .... 11:55
liz4rdnah11:55
liz4rdi hate java with a passion11:55
liz4rd"{11:55
liz4rd:P*11:55
Chameleon22umm i dont think you are in a position to say yuong grasshopper11:55
Chameleon22java and c# is the way of the future man11:55
Kamping_Kaisermores the pity :(11:55
liz4rd:( *bows head* yes great locust11:55
Kamping_Kaiserlol11:55
Chameleon22and java and c# are ALMOST the same syntax and theory and fucking concept wise11:56
liz4rdcool11:56
Chameleon22infact when i first saw c sharp i thought it was java lol11:56
liz4rdlol11:56
Kamping_Kaiseri want to learn assembler.11:56
Kamping_Kaiserjust need to learn somthing first11:56
Chameleon22Kamping_/me knocks Kamping_Kaiser out11:56
unomeAnyone?11:56
Kamping_Kaisernot sure unome11:56
Chameleon22Kamping_Kaiser, i can code Motorolla 68000 Asembler lol11:56
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Chameleon22unome, dont know11:57
Kamping_Kaiserlol. 11:57
Chameleon22eh hardly a master, aprentice jedi more like it lol11:57
Kamping_Kaiseri want to do 8086 and X8611:57
liz4rdLMAO11:57
Kamping_Kaiserheh 11:57
mindspinunome in kcontrol ?11:57
Chameleon22Kamping_Kaiser, ye they are great if you into writing cracks ;)11:57
liz4rdi watched revenge of the sith yesterday11:57
Kamping_Kaiserlol11:57
Kamping_Kaiseri have an 808611:57
Chameleon22my gf dragged me to see it, i hate star wars 11:58
unomemindspin: yes, but what do you end firefox with? firefox u% ?11:58
Kamping_Kaiserchameleon22 realy?11:58
Chameleon22ye11:58
Kamping_Kaiseryou hate it?11:58
Kamping_Kaiserthe new ones or all of it?11:58
Chameleon22well i dont, i am indifferent to them 11:58
Chameleon22indifferent to all of them 11:58
liz4rdi thought it was cool11:58
liz4rdnot a fan tho11:58
Chameleon22each to their own 11:58
Chameleon22any way ... Java and now C# as well are 2 languages that will 1. give you excellent  understanding of different concepts and will also 2. teach you good coding habbits and 3. being derived from C thaht can be assumed to have a "classical" syntax will let you learn most programming languages in about a week12:00
liz4rdwhat about a 10th grade 16 year old as my self?12:00
Chameleon22liz4rd, as your first language12:00
Chameleon22?12:00
liz4rdyeah12:01
Chameleon22Java or C#12:01
Kamping_Kaiserif you got time cred liz4rd.. i looked in class 10, didnt have time12:01
Chameleon22i like java cause i know it, but C# and .NET in general fetches some serious money right now12:01
mindspinunome:kcontrol->kde components->file associations12:02
mindspinfirefox %u12:02
unomenot working for me12:03
mindspincalled it with sudo?12:04
Chameleon22liz4rd, BUT java is currently more widely used and definately has greater support then .net as of now 12:04
unomeofcourse not12:04
mindspinhave a try12:04
Kamping_Kaiserliz4rd, your in a possition to learn what's popular in 5 years...12:04
Kamping_Kaiserthat's what you should do12:04
mindspini mean kcontrol12:04
unomewhy would I start a browser as root?12:04
mindspinnot firefox12:05
opiChameleon22: yet, C# will catch up12:05
opiChameleon22: Java out-of-the-box experience on Linux is far worse than Mono/C#12:05
liz4rdi was thinking about learning C12:05
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opiChameleon22: when I had to decite what language should I pick up next, I decited to go with C#12:05
opiliz4rd: it's a bit old now ;-)12:06
Chameleon22opi, well as i said there are pros and cons of both 12:06
opiChameleon22: yup, sure they are12:06
liz4rdopiL yeah thats why my second would be python12:06
Chameleon22opi, but definately agree C# is gaining same momentum as java in late 90's12:06
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Chameleon22so yeah definately will catch up 12:07
Chameleon22liz4rd, python should NOT be your 1st language!12:07
liz4rdok fine :P12:07
Chameleon22infact most universities do it in order12:08
Chameleon22Java/C# then C then everything else12:08
Chameleon22C will teach you stuff about programming that you would never learn otherwise12:08
Chameleon22like very low stuff12:08
Chameleon22low level i mean 12:09
liz4rdmmmm12:09
Chameleon22the stuff all modern languages hide from you 12:09
Kamping_Kaiserlol12:09
liz4rdits this is hard12:09
Chameleon22?12:09
liz4rdpicking a  first lang12:09
opiC? C can be tricky12:09
Chameleon22opi, can be?12:09
Chameleon22it fucking most definately is 12:09
opiwell, it is tricky12:10
opi:-)12:10
opiI didn't wanted to scare him :D12:10
Chameleon22but you are not a developer untill you know C12:10
Chameleon22C is the foundation of all modern programming!12:10
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opiI know C, but I feel pain if I have to do something in it again ;-)12:10
Chameleon22opi, hehe same12:10
Chameleon22pain and enosiating feeling12:11
opibut yes12:11
opiC syntax is shared among PHP, C#, C++, Java, Nemerle12:11
opiso when you know C, you only need to learn differences12:11
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opiliz4rd: you'll see. When a sentence: A pointer to a array of pointer that leads to the structure start to make sens, you're at home12:13
Chameleon22not just that 12:13
opiliz4rd: then drop it, and try something from higher level :-)12:13
Chameleon22C will teach you data structures12:14
opiand about memoryleaks ;D12:14
Chameleon22one of the most important aspect of development!12:14
Chameleon22ROFL12:14
Chameleon22*nods to opi 12:14
Chameleon22thats why u use a profiler12:14
opiOK, I need to pick up some books from library12:14
Chameleon22opi, maybe i can help you out12:15
Chameleon22what do you nee12:15
Chameleon22d12:15
opiyou can not, I'm sure :)12:15
Chameleon22ok12:15
liz4rdopi: i only know what a programing language is and somewhat how to program but other than that i know nothing12:15
opiI'm getting'em for my girlfirend12:15
opiChameleon22: she's studding a knowledge about culture12:15
Chameleon22opi, uh ok, thought you meant computer books12:15
Chameleon22opi, artsy type ay 12:16
opiChameleon22: naa, I have my shelf :-)12:16
opiChameleon22: ay12:16
liz4rdso i still dont know what language to pick :P12:16
opiliz4rd: pick up C or C++12:16
Chameleon22NO12:16
Chameleon22liz4rd, Java or C# as your first langues12:16
opiliz4rd: I bet there's a ton of books that learns you from the start12:16
Chameleon22C as second12:16
Chameleon22and you mentioned python - thats 3rd12:17
opiliz4rd: really? I would recomend C.. but I'm old, when I started there where Basic and ASM 6502 ;)12:17
liz4rdi mean tutorials that teach you as if you have never touched a language befor12:17
Kamping_KaiserFIGHT!12:17
Kamping_Kaiserbash :O12:17
Chameleon22opi, would you like to bash Kamping_Kaiser ?12:17
Chameleon22:p12:17
Chameleon22ill hold him down 12:17
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liz4rdChameleon22: we think penguinboy is really homo12:18
opiChameleon22: naaa, I've got my club :P12:18
Kamping_Kaiserback off!12:18
Chameleon22wow12:18
opiOK, I need to go to this library12:18
opittfn12:18
Chameleon22ied pay to see a penguin being sodomised by another12:18
Kamping_Kaiserlater12:18
Chameleon22ROFL12:18
Chameleon22later 12:18
liz4rd:P12:18
Chameleon22any way 12:18
Chameleon22C doesnt teach object orientated concepts 12:18
Chameleon22java and c# are based on OO so you will be forced to learn12:19
Chameleon22you only need to know C enough to understand how things work under the hood12:19
liz4rdbut java is slow12:19
liz4rd:P12:19
liz4rdand i only know how to work gcc :P12:19
Chameleon22only as a desktop app12:19
Kamping_Kaisercred!12:19
Chameleon22as a server app and most of them are its rather fast 12:19
Kamping_Kaiseri got nfi how to use a compiler12:19
liz4rdand python12:19
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Chameleon22liz4rd, to tell you the truth all languages are the same speed wise , C and c++ are fastest anything else is about the same12:20
liz4rdpython is the future :P12:20
Kamping_Kaiserinterperated vs compiled must be different?12:21
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liz4rd*bows* sorry master12:21
Chameleon22Kamping_Kaiser, interperated vs byte code you mean lol12:21
Kamping_Kaiser:P12:21
Chameleon22and those 2 are the same shit 12:21
Chameleon22infact i can get PHP to go as well as Java !12:21
Chameleon22and using zend optimiser .... weeeeeeeeee12:21
Chameleon22and on that note i am going to go and write some code... *waves12:22
Kamping_Kaiserbye12:22
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liz4rdChameleon22: i have you on msn would you be willing to teach me my first programming language?12:22
Chameleon22liz4rd, i can help you with some particular questions, but not as a tutor12:23
liz4rddammit12:23
liz4rdalright12:23
Chameleon22i am not expensive though 12:24
Chameleon22say AU$50/hr12:24
Chameleon22;)12:24
Kamping_Kaiserlol. so basicly free ;)12:24
liz4rdthats not what you said last night ;)12:24
Chameleon22liz4rd, last night i was with yoru mom 12:24
Chameleon22i dont charge the woman 12:24
Chameleon22Kamping_Kaiser, where are you from ?12:24
liz4rdoh...your good12:24
liz4rd:P12:24
Chameleon22hehehe12:24
Kamping_Kaiserfrom Tas, in Adelaide hills12:25
Chameleon22Kamping_Kaiser, uh fuck ye 12:25
Chameleon22Kamping_Kaiser, what do you do ?12:25
Kamping_KaiserI'm a volenteer with ITShare atm, but i need to go get a job12:25
Kamping_Kaiserand somehow i became sysadmin for a Linux network...12:26
Chameleon22and you telling me i am free?12:26
Kamping_Kaisergod knows why12:26
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Chameleon22lol12:26
Chameleon22;)12:26
Kamping_Kaiser:)12:27
Chameleon22ok me go now12:27
Chameleon22*waves12:27
Kamping_KaiserOK. later ;)12:27
Kamping_Kaiser*returns main focus to #ubuntu*12:28
Chameleon22KUbuntu dickhead , ubuntu is next door12:28
Chameleon22:p12:28
liz4rdLMAO12:29
Kamping_Kaiserno, i  said it right12:29
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liz4rd:'( I CANT PICK ONE 12:30
Chameleon22liz4rd, java12:30
liz4rdChameleon22 hold me12:30
liz4rdXD12:30
liz4rdwhat comfort12:30
Chameleon22arghhhhhhhhhh 12:30
Chameleon22fuck i need to code12:30
Kamping_Kaiserlol12:31
Chameleon22i try to get out and they pull me back in !12:31
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liz4rdbut i like how i can just run my .py files instead of compiling shit and trying again then recompiling12:31
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Chameleon22ohhh its on niga!12:32
Chameleon22it on!12:32
Chameleon22lol12:32
Chameleon22i am like 2 classes away of completing my sms gateway code12:32
Chameleon22liz4rd, stopit, i told you my opinion now make up your own mind12:33
liz4rd....yes sir...12:33
Kamping_Kaiserliz4rd, now go and learn ada12:33
Kamping_Kaiserand see ppls eyes roll up12:33
liz4rdFUCK YOU THEN I'M LEARNING JAVA AND THATS FINAL12:34
Kamping_Kaiserlol. 12:34
Kamping_Kaisercommitment. 12:34
Chameleon22Kamping_Kaiser, you mention ada again and i will sodomise you with a dead ferret12:34
Kamping_Kaiserlol, it's that bad is it... OK12:35
liz4rdChameleon22's fav word of the day is......(drum rool): sodomise12:35
Chameleon22hehe12:35
Chameleon22nah its my fav word full stop12:35
liz4rdlol12:36
Chameleon22Kamping_Kaiser, ada and java = australian defence forces language of choice12:36
Kamping_Kaiserada was made by US govt IIRC12:36
Chameleon22no idea 12:36
Chameleon22sounds about right though 12:36
Kamping_Kaiserprobably why we use it12:37
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Riddellliz4rd: don't use language like that in this channel12:46
liz4rdi'm sorry12:46
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RiddellChameleon22: same12:47
liz4rdits not his fault12:47
liz4rdi keep him in my basment12:47
liz4rdit does that to people12:47
Chameleon22Riddell, what?12:49
liz4rdhe's complaining12:50
Kamping_Kaiserbe nice to him... he's got a point12:50
liz4rdi apolagized12:50
Chameleon22well i dont see why, sodomy is a literature term , precisely like bitch, fuck and EVEN anus12:50
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liz4rdnight everyone tho12:51
ekCodoes anyone know how to get teamspeak working on 64bit ubuntu?12:51
Kamping_Kaisernight liz4rd12:51
Chameleon22infact most were derived from latin and are widely used12:51
liz4rdChameleon22: oh your good :P12:51
Chameleon22see ya liz4rd 12:51
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ekCoanyone at all?12:52
Chameleon22ekCo, sorry not me, i think i saw yoru post on mailing list though 12:52
Chameleon22so maybe will get a reply.. but i dont know12:52
ekConah i havn't posted anything12:53
ekCoim desperate to get it to work12:53
Chameleon22ohh, in that case search mailing list archives , maybe 5 days back to now12:53
Chameleon22cause i did see a topic similar to your question there 12:53
Chameleon22not sure if it was kubuntu or ubuntu list though 12:54
ekCook12:55
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iznogoedplop01:17
Chameleon22yo01:19
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verden01hi01:21
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Kamping_Kaiserhi01:22
airoxhello01:22
verden01hey Kamping_Kaiser  airox 01:23
verden01how do i get my mp3/usb flash drive to mount?01:23
airoxNormally it would do automatically ?01:24
verden01no it doesnt01:24
Kamping_Kaiserif it doent just work, i cant help... I'm not good with KDE...01:24
verden01i don't think it matters wether its gnome or kde does it?01:24
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mrmanicverden01: pretty sure it does matter, unless you've set something custom up.01:25
mrmanicI don't know how it works in gnome01:25
mrmanicIn KDE, the media:/ kioslave handles that.01:26
verden01so do you know how to get an mp3/usb flash drive mounted?01:26
mrmanicverden01: browse to media:/ and click the flash drive, assuming it shows up there.01:27
verden01k01:28
verden01no it doesn't show up in /media01:29
mrmanicnot in /media01:31
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mrmanicverden01: in media:/01:32
verden01it doesn't show up there either01:34
mrmanicverden01: that's a problem01:34
mrmanicverden01: does it show up in dmesg?01:35
verden01yes01:35
verden01usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning01:36
verden01  Vendor: Generic   Model: SND1 MP3 Player   Rev: 0.0001:36
verden01  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 0001:36
mrmanicit doesn't attach it to a device, though?01:36
verden01no01:37
mrmanicthat's an issue.01:37
mrmanicmy unmountable usb drive used to do that.01:37
verden01in other linux distros its called /dev/sdb101:37
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mrmanicwhy sdb?  do you have another usb drive?01:38
verden01no01:38
mrmanicthat's interesting.01:38
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mrmanicyou could try manually mounting /dev/sdb1, but I'm not sure how much good it would do you.01:38
mrmanicanother option would be to see if udev is handling it.01:39
mrmanicI don't really know anything about udev01:39
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mrmanicand I haven't slept in a couple of days.01:39
mrmanicso I'm just throwing ideas out01:39
airox:D01:39
verden01:-)01:40
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=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:Riddell] : Congrats to JRe on membership | "http://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kubuntu-5.04.3-i386-live.iso | KDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | Wiki Transition Tuesday | Use archive.ubuntu.com if us.archive.ubuntu.com gives md5sum errors | sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list".
mrmanicMembership in what?02:59
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=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:Riddell] : Congrats to JRe and Mez on Ubuntu membership | "http://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kubuntu-5.04.3-i386-live.iso | KDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | Wiki Transition Tuesday | Use archive.ubuntu.com if us.archive.ubuntu.com gives md5sum errors | sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list".
Riddellmrmanic: ubuntu03:14
mrmanicI see.03:14
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Kamping_Kaiserwhere can i head for Kubuntu s lists? are they part of Ubuntu?03:54
jjessewhich lists?03:55
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Kamping_Kaiseremail... i asume it has some? i was thinking updates mainly03:56
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Kamping_Kaiserwhat's new etc03:56
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thoreauputicdeb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main   << but mainly security/bugfixes I think04:01
thoreauputicKamping_Kaiser: ^^^04:01
Kamping_Kaiser;)04:01
Kamping_Kaiserand email?04:01
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butihi! does the kubuntu-5.04-live-powerpc.iso contain mol (mac on linux)?04:20
Riddellbuti: don't think so04:22
buti:-/04:23
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thoreauputicbuti: a bit late, but of course you can install it: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MacOnLinuxHowto04:42
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juanjocAnybody knows if KDE 3.4.1 is available for Hoary/AMD64?05:20
uniqdon't think amd64 is done yet.05:22
Tm_Tnot yet I afraid05:22
Tm_TMez: !05:22
Mezsup?05:22
Tm_Tso you got it :)05:23
Mezmmhmm05:23
Tm_T(membership)05:23
Kamping_Kaiserhi tm_t, mez05:24
Mezhey Kamping_Kaiser05:24
Tm_Tkaiser o/05:24
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Tm_Thmm, where's kkathman and nmorse?05:24
Kamping_Kaiserday :D05:24
Kamping_Kaiserhey, does Kubuntu have emailing lists?05:24
Tm_Tdunno05:24
Kamping_KaiserI'm on Ubuntu's and debians, but I'm not sure if Kubuntu has any05:25
Mezyeah05:25
Mezkubuntu-bugs  Kubuntu bug tracker changes05:25
Mezkubuntu-devel Kubuntu Developer Discussion05:25
Mezkubuntu-users Kubuntu Help and User Discussions05:25
Tm_Twhere?!05:25
Kamping_Kaisercool wheres that?05:25
Tm_TI was asking first o/05:26
Tm_T;p05:26
Mezlists.ubunut.com05:26
Kamping_Kaiser:P will he can answer you first05:26
Mezhttp://lists.ubuntu.com *05:26
Kamping_Kaiser oh, missed them in the flood :$05:27
Tm_T:p05:28
Mez;)05:28
Kamping_Kaiser*subs to Kubuntu-users*05:28
Tm_Tubuntu-fi <305:29
Kamping_Kaiserhm. Ubuntu-mirrors. wonder what that's like05:29
Kamping_KaiserOK. night all05:30
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somerville32Firefox isn't working for me06:15
dalbirdycan anyone tell me how to disable the popup help on the k taskbar?06:15
dalbirdywhat is firefox doing for you?06:17
somerville32Extensions aren't working06:18
dalbirdyyou need to download the version from firefox...the ubuntu version has issues...i did this and it fixed my problem06:18
dalbirdythey forgot to add the version number or something like that to there build06:19
dalbirdyfirefox found the problem and sent it to ubuntu for them to fix but they havent yet06:20
dalbirdyi need help upgrading a package can anyone help06:22
dalbirdythe package will not install becouse i do not have the kernel sources installed?06:23
mrmanicyou need the kernel sources?06:26
mrmanicgenerally the headers are enough.06:26
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mrmanicdalbirdy: --^06:27
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thoreauputicdalbirdy: your characterisation of the firefox issue is entirely wrong, BTW - not that it matters much06:37
somerville32I installed the latest06:38
somerville32but extensions still don't work06:38
thoreauputicsomerville32: type  about:config in the URL bar, search for "vendor", edit the string to read 1.0.4 and try again06:39
somerville32It already is that06:41
somerville32I downloaded from www.getfirefox.com06:41
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somerville32It already is that06:44
somerville32I downloaded from www.getfirefox.com06:44
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skaagMy Amarok doesn't like working with the Arts daemon... it hangs the moment it tries to output sound07:24
thoreauputicskaag: sudo apt-get install amarok-xine, and change the engine for amarok07:26
thoreauputicor amarok-gstreamer07:27
skaagI did change the engine to the arts engine07:28
thoreauputicwell, if arts causes problems, try the others07:28
thoreauputicobviously07:28
skaagbut my system uses arts...07:29
thoreauputic:/07:29
skaagkaffeine works with arts for example07:29
thoreauputicso?07:29
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thoreauputicI use arts with kaffeine, xine with amarok07:29
skaagmaybe i'm not getting something07:29
thoreauputicno worries07:29
skaagyou use the xine engine with amarok?07:29
skaagi'll try that07:29
thoreauputicyes, or gstreamer (both work)07:30
thoreauputicxine is probably a better option at the momnet07:30
thoreauputic*moment07:30
skaagyes xine works07:30
skaagwhich output method did you try with gstreamer?07:31
thoreauputicBTW the backend for kaffeine is xine07:31
skaagI see!07:31
skaagi'm amazed how far linux has gone07:31
skaagand kde, and other apps07:31
skaagit feels so much more mature07:31
thoreauputicyeah, even in the last year or so...07:31
skaagabsolutely!07:31
skaagI use linux mostly for my servers07:32
kalenedraeli don't have any servers :/07:32
skaagso I don't get to deal with stuff like audio/video/productivity applications07:32
kalenedraellinux is great for a desktop too07:32
thoreauputicI use linux only now -my XP hasn't booted for ages...07:32
kalenedraelsame07:32
skaagnice07:32
skaaghopefuly I will never touch a windows box at home, again07:32
thoreauputicI should wipe it I think..07:32
kalenedraeli have dual-boot because certain programs will only run on windows...07:32
skaagyes some games are still only working under windows07:33
kalenedraeland loads of other programs07:33
skaagbut i have a feeling game studios are getting the drift of where things are going...07:33
skaagwhat else?07:33
kalenedraelsome cellular automaton programs i run07:33
skaagOh I see.07:33
kalenedraelthough i haven't used them in ages07:34
thoreauputicBTW re: artsd - I have it set to time out in 5 seconds so it doesn't take over and grab everything (YMMV)07:34
kalenedraelconsequently i haven't used windows in ages07:34
skaagstrange, amarok takes a lot of cpu...07:35
skaag70 to 80% cpu usage!07:35
thoreauputicskaag: only when it updates 07:35
thoreauputichere anyway07:35
skaagoh I see!07:36
skaagyes it is building a collection07:36
thoreauputicit scans for new music etc07:36
thoreauputicright07:36
skaagaltough i have not even 1 mp3 file on this box07:36
skaagi'll start downloading stuff07:36
skaagbittorrent here I come07:36
skaagis bittornado-gui the best there is on linux?07:36
thoreauputicskaag: it scans your home dir by default I think07:36
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skaagI asked it to abort the scan but it's taking ages to even abort07:38
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skaaggreat, very good now07:43
skaagnow artsd is around 8% to 10% cpu usage07:44
skaagdoes it have to be this high?07:44
skaagand do you guys know a better alternative to bittornado-gui?07:44
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SkaagI tried to install some kde development extras07:56
sirukinand?07:56
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Skaagit tried to upgrade kdelib-data...07:56
Skaagand failed07:56
Skaagit also said it can not verify the package07:57
Skaagdoes this make any sense?07:57
SkaagWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!07:57
Skaag  kdelibs-data07:57
SkaagInstall these packages without verification [y/N] ?07:57
liz4rd|zZzy07:59
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Skaagthat's what I did08:00
liz4rdok08:00
Skaagdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.2_all.deb (--unpack):08:00
Skaag trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf08:00
sirukinhmm08:01
RiddellSkaag: you need hoary-updates08:01
Skaagwhich is?08:01
Skaaga dist-upgrade?08:02
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Tm_Tdeb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main08:03
Tm_TRiddell: that one, right?08:03
Tm_Tand why not deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main08:04
Tm_Tto get 3.4.1 :)08:04
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Skaagok cool08:04
sirukinquiet.08:05
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RiddellTm_T: actually just ubuntu's hoary-updates should fix it08:05
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Tm_TRiddell: ok :)08:10
Skaagdamn it didn't help08:11
Skaagthis sucks08:11
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Skaaghrm :-(08:12
SkaagI want to develop!!! whaaaaaaaaa08:12
Skaag:-)08:12
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SkaagI always hated to deal with the actual programming environment08:12
Skaagit's such a huge overhead08:12
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:Riddell] : KOffice 1.4 http://kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice-14.php | KDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | Wiki Transition Tuesday | Use archive.ubuntu.com if us.archive.ubuntu.com gives md5sum errors | sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list".
Skaagis the new koffice good?08:13
Skaagthat is, better than openoffice?08:13
SkaagI was surprised to see OO in Kubuntu08:13
Tm_TKoffice is good08:14
Tm_Tand 1.4 will be released _soon_08:14
RiddellSkaag: openoffice or koffice is one of the big questions for breezy08:14
SkaagI think that kubuntu should stick with the K and install kOffice08:14
Skaagand not openoffice08:14
SkaagThings like that give the product a boost08:15
Skaagenlarge its user base, and puts more pressure on the koffice developers08:15
Tm_Tyup08:15
Skaagso guys, help me out with this one, how do I get out of this mess with kdelibs-data?08:15
Skaagnow it tells me to apt-get -f install and that does not work obviously08:15
opiSkaag: nope08:15
opiSkaag: do this08:16
Skaagbecause of the conflict with knetworkconf08:16
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opiSkaag: dpkg --force-all -i kde-libs.deb08:16
opidoh08:16
opi-data08:16
Skaagok08:16
opiyou know where deb's are?08:16
opi /var/cache/apt/archive08:16
wizzardhi Skaag08:16
Tm_Tuh oh08:16
Skaaghi wizzard 08:17
Skaagyes i've already done it opi08:17
wizzarddid you resolved that problem with the fonts?08:17
Skaagnow, i'm doing a dist-upgrade and MOST packages from the new sources you guys gave me can not be verified08:17
wizzardit is normal08:18
Skaagwizzard: well I just changed the theme fonts to smaller fonts, now it's all good08:18
Skaagfonts still seem a little bit squashed, in terms of the ratio between the height and width08:19
Skaagbut it's almost unfelt08:19
Skaagso i'm putting up with it08:19
wizzardI have the similar problem08:19
wizzardI have to adjust the fonts for root user08:19
Skaagwhat do you mean, what same problem? large fonts? or incorrect width/height ratio?08:20
wizzardthe ratio is OK, but when I run some app as a root, the fonts are different and bigger08:20
Skaagthat's because you need to change root's theme as well, I guess?08:21
wizzardmaybe08:21
wizzardbut when I run kcontrol as a root, the fonts are OK08:21
Skaaginteresting08:22
wizzardthe same in Krusader08:22
Skaagdo you run it like this: kdesu kcontrol?08:22
wizzardsu kcontrol08:22
Skaagtry kdesu08:22
RiddellKoffice 1.4  http://dot.kde.org/1119375704/  Tm_T was right when he said soon08:23
wizzardyeah, now the fonts are bigger08:23
Tm_T=)08:23
Skaagnow go to Fonts08:23
philipacamaniacyay!08:23
Skaagselect to modify all fonts08:23
Tm_TRiddell: I'm spy ;)08:23
wizzardyep, I know the rest08:23
Skaagclick just the size, lower it by two points, then press apply08:23
Skaagthis should fix all your future root based sessions08:23
Skaag(I guess)08:23
SkaagRiddell: So that's it? It's out?? :-)08:24
Riddellwith Kubuntu packages and Live CD  http://kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice-14.php08:24
wizzardok, it works, thank you very much08:24
Tm_TSkaag: yes, now it's out \o/08:24
Skaag\o/ !!!08:24
Tm_TRiddell: ...and kexi packages are?08:24
Skaagwizzard: Glad to help!08:25
RiddellTm_T: they should autosync from debian (but they havn't for some reason)08:25
Tm_TRiddell: ok (I use svn anyway)08:25
wizzardnow we are 1:1 :D08:25
Skaagso will there be a special deb source for 1.4 or do I not touch anything and it will appear soon in the distro?08:25
Skaagwizzard ;-) I don't count stuff like that, I help as much as I can :->08:26
wizzardI think it will appear soon08:26
Skaagcool08:26
philipacamaniacRiddell: has the OOo vs. KOffice been decided for Breezy yet? I saw it on a technical board agenda08:26
Skaagi'm considering whether to use kdevelop or kdevelop3 for a new project08:26
Riddellphilipacamaniac: I put it on the agenda today, discussion next week at technical board08:26
Skaagok I think i'm done upgrading to 3.4.1 now what?08:26
philipacamaniacRiddell: thanks08:27
RiddellSkaag: the package to use is kdevelop3 except if you're using the hoary 3.4.1 packages in which case it's kdevelop08:27
SkaagI think I am using hoary 3.4.1 (latest, right)08:27
Skaag?08:27
Skaagthe source from the topic08:28
philipacamaniacso does KOffice fully support the OASIS format now?08:28
wizzardSkaag, what project are you working on?08:28
SkaagI'm going to finally port ZipTorrent to Linux08:28
wizzardhm, that is great08:29
Tm_TRiddell: uhm, IF I try to install kdevelop package, apt like to remove these packages: kde kde-devel-extras kdevelop3 kdevelop3-data kdevelop3-dev kdevelop3-plugins08:29
Skaagyes it's about time Linux gets a really cool GUI BitTorrent client that is not python based (Full C++)08:29
Tm_TRiddell: so kde is just metapackage, right?08:29
wizzardSkaag, you are from Italy? btw, I think Azureus is good08:29
SkaagI installed kdevelop3 by mistake and it did not complain at all08:29
SkaagAzureus is great but it's Java based... it eats a lot of RAM08:30
SkaagZipTorrent is a 3mb memory footprint08:30
RiddellTm_T: yes, they're fine to remove08:30
Tm_Tok thank you08:30
SkaagRiddell: So if i'm in 3.4.1 I should replace kdevelop3 with kdevelop yes?08:30
SkaagRiddell: Just want to make sure...08:30
Riddellphilipacamaniac: yes it supports opendocument (unlike the openoffice2 builds in breezy)08:30
philipacamaniacRiddell: yeah, I've been having problems with the format in all my builds of OOo208:31
philipacamaniacexciting news08:32
=== uniq is building koffice 1.4 for ppc :)
uniq.. hoary ppc.08:32
Riddelluniq: cool08:32
wizzardKOffice rulez08:33
wizzardespecialy Krita graphics app08:33
philipacamaniacwizzard: we'll see08:33
Skaagwhen I first tried Krita it was almost impossible to use it08:33
wizzardI tried Krita before08:33
SkaagI guess it went a long way!!!08:33
wizzardwhen did you try it?08:33
Skaagwhen it was first announced and a beta was available08:33
wizzardit was when?08:34
SkaagI don't even remember when that was08:34
SkaagAGES ago08:34
Skaag:-)08:34
wizzardI tried it about month ago :p08:34
Skaagand it improved even since then?08:34
philipacamaniacdo you think it could replace my GimpShop08:34
wizzarddont know :p08:34
Skaagah :-)08:34
Skaaghehe08:34
wizzarddont have KOffice 1.4 yet, only RC108:34
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SkaagI see kdevelop is 3.2.108:36
Skaagand not 3.4.108:36
wizzardhere the same08:36
RiddellSkaag: it uses a different version number from KDE itself08:43
Riddell3.2.1 is the latest08:43
Skaagok cool, that's comforting08:45
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F_for_Fraggingam I correct that there is no Dutch translation for KOffice 1.4 in the KOffice 1.4 kubuntu repo?09:27
F_for_Fragginghttp://www.koffice.org/releases/1.4-release.php -> here I do see a Dutch translation, but it's not in the repo?09:27
Tm_Tuh oh09:27
F_for_Fraggingcan anyone please help me with this?09:30
Tm_Terr09:31
F_for_Fragging?09:31
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F_for_Fragginghmm, nevermind, it seems it is already installed, but it's version 1.3.4-1 and not 1.4 somehow...09:33
RiddellF_for_Fragging: yes, there's no packages of KOffice translation yet I'm afraid09:36
RiddellF_for_Fragging: getting the source and compiling yourself is the current way09:37
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hisghetekhow do i add this mirror to my sources.list? http://www.fruitsalad.org/kolab/server/09:50
F_for_FraggingRiddell: thank you for your answer, I'll compile from source then09:50
hisgheteki know how to add mirrors i just dont get all the "stable main" "universe multiverse" stuff09:50
Riddellhisghetek: deb http://www.fruitsalad.org/kolab/server/release/kolab-server-2.0/ix86-debian3.0/ ./09:52
RiddellI think09:52
Riddellbut that's a debian archive, no guarantee it will work09:52
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=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:Mez] : KOffice 1.4 http://kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice-14.php | KDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | Use archive.ubuntu.com if us.archive.ubuntu.com gives md5sum errors | sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list".
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:Mez] : KOffice 1.4 http://kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice-14.php | KDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | Use archive.ubuntu.com if us.archive.ubuntu.com gives md5sum errors | sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list".
hisghetekeverything in my sources list so far has (for lack of better words) two lines of "stuff"09:53
hisghetekdo i need another one?09:53
Tm_Thmm09:54
KaiL|Sheepyou mean the deb-src?09:54
hisghetekyeah! thats the one09:54
KaiL|Sheepyou normally don't need it09:54
hisghetekCouldn't stat source package list http://www.fruitsalad.org ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.fruitsalad.org_kolab_server_release_kolab-server-2.0_ix86-debian3.0_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)09:54
hisghetek:-/09:55
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hisghetekis this thing even valid?10:17
hisghetekdeb http://www.fruitsalad.org/kolab/server/release/kolab-server-2.0/ix86-debian3.0/ ../10:17
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Riddellhmm interesting, that directory has .rpm files10:18
Riddellhisghetek: see README.1st10:18
liz4rdlol10:18
hisghetekno way to make it install via apt-get though...10:20
Tm_Thaha10:21
Tm_Trpm debian packages? :p10:21
liz4rdwtf10:21
liz4rdcant you use alien for that10:21
Riddellhisghetek: no10:21
hisghetektoo bad. i wanted to make it update whenever i did my apt-get upgrade10:22
hisghetekoh well.10:22
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u19809does anybody how I can add the 'delete' option to the menu list for files10:54
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mrmanicu19809: settings > configure konquerer > behavior10:57
u19809Thx, do you also by any chance know how I can configure the dvd-device icon10:58
u19809so that a double click starts the vidoe player when the dvd contains a DVD movie ?10:58
mrmanicno10:59
mrmanicI have no idea10:59
mrmanicThat's what my home theatre system is for :)11:00
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ivokscongrats on koffice 1.4 packages!11:05
ivoksgreat job11:05
Riddellivoks: what do you have installed?11:06
Riddellivoks: hoary or breezy11:06
ivoksbreezy11:07
ivokswhy?11:08
Riddellivoks: can you start karbon with an empty template?11:08
ivoksi didn't install koffice11:08
ivoksi don't use kde :)11:08
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Riddellriight11:09
Riddellwell KOffice 1.4 is the perfect time to start11:09
ivokswell, i will try koffice11:09
ivoksbut kde is long gone history for me :)11:10
ivoksi used it in late '90...11:10
\shivoks, u should use KDE dude :)11:11
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Tm_Thi kids11:12
ivoks\sh: i tried 3.4 - very nice11:12
ivoks\sh: but... KDE is too fancy, colorfull for me11:12
ivoksi like sado-mazo, like twm :)11:13
Tm_Tivoks: you can set those colours ;)11:13
\shivoks, haha..gnome as well :) I'm running right now gnome 2.11.3 ,)11:13
ivokseh...11:14
liz4rdTm_T:...milk11:14
ivokskoffice is still untransitioned11:14
Tm_Tliz4rd: cheese!11:14
liz4rdOMG WHERE!!!11:15
duncanmvRiddell: do you know why in kubuntu's kdevelop, when you try to add a code completion database, no options are shown?11:16
Riddellduncanmv: kdevelop from where, where version of kdevelop and how do I add a code completion database?11:19
duncanmvRiddell: from ubuntu universe11:20
duncanmvkdevelop311:20
Riddellhoary or breezy?11:20
duncanmvhoary, c++ project, menu -> project -> project options -> c++ specific -> code completion -> add11:21
Riddellduncanmv: I get custom directory PCS importer, kdelibs pcs importer, qt pcs importer11:23
Riddellduncanmv: I presume you get none there?11:23
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FiretechWhat time today was KOffice 1.4 released?11:25
FiretechI was on the KDE website earlier, but didn't notice anything..11:25
SlackmanFiretech: ooh does it include kritta?11:26
RiddellFiretech: I posted the announcement at about 19:0011:27
RiddellUK time11:27
FiretechSlackman: yes, see the forst "sentece" of the topic11:27
Slackmank thanks11:27
FiretechThen I didn't miss anything :)11:27
Firetech*first11:27
KaiLRiddell: koffice 1.4 for breezy? :)11:27
duncanmvRiddell: yes, none11:27
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duncanmv(noticed today at my Qt student place)11:28
FiretechRiddell: haven't you got the l10n packages uploaded? :S (I WILL get it anyway, but right now I'm a bit confused by the diff between 1.3.5 (from universe) and 1.4... 1.3.5 has i18n, 1.4 has l10n...)11:30
RiddellFiretech: I havn't done any translation packages, (mainly because it's changed as you say and I'm waiting to see what debian do)11:30
Firetechok11:31
Firetechis it difficult to make the l10n source package work?11:31
RiddellFiretech: no, would should be able to compile and install yourself fine   ./configure --prefix=/usr && make && make install11:31
FiretechThe main reason I installed KOffice was that it was available in Swedish, one thing that hasn't come to OO.o2 yet.11:32
Riddellduncanmv: the hoary kdevelop 3.2.1 package works from http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-341.php11:33
FiretechRiddell: phew, nothing astronomically dangerous or something then ;)11:33
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FiretechRiddell: how long can the wait for debian be? I mean, they haven't got 3.4.0 into sid yet? (or have I missed something?)11:35
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Arv3nHey guys.11:35
Arv3nCan anyone help me?11:35
RiddellFiretech: the packager is planning to look at it this weekend11:36
Firetechok, sound good11:36
Arv3nThe problem is that whenever I get to the logon screen for Kubuntu, theres lines everywhere of all different colors and everything.11:36
Arv3nCan anyon help?11:40
Arv3n*anyone11:40
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FiretechRiddell: File conflict. /usr/lib/libkdchart.la in new koffice-dev exists in kchart (old one I guess, because running apt-get upgrade again solves it.)11:40
mrmanicArv3n: what did you do to it?11:40
mrmanicArv3n: I had that problem once, and it was due to changing my video driver from fglrx to ati11:40
Arv3n?11:40
mrmanicI didn't manage to fix it.11:40
RiddellFiretech: hoary or breezy?11:40
Arv3nNo11:40
Firetechhoary11:40
Arv3nI jsut reinstalled it.11:40
Arv3nI just installed it actually.11:40
mrmanicoh11:40
Arv3nTo dualboot.11:40
mrmanicthat's too bad11:40
Arv3nYeah, it used to work.11:40
Arv3nWorks with all other distros except Kubuntu/Ubuntu11:40
Arv3nThat I've tried.11:40
Arv3nI've tried Fedora Core 3, and Vidalinux, and also Knoppix.11:41
mrmanicodd11:41
mrmanicWhat driver are you trying to load?11:41
Arv3nSo it seems.11:41
Arv3nWhat are you talking about?11:41
Firetechwhat is the difference between i18n and l10n11:42
Arv3nI just installed it and it does that when I try to login.11:42
pv_programmers do i18n, translators l10n11:42
Firetechok11:42
pv_or something in that direction11:42
Firetechmakes sence.11:42
Firetechdid i spell that second word correctly?11:43
Riddellpv_ is correct11:43
Firetechaccording to http://i18n.kde.org/, i18n is internationalization, while l10n is localization11:44
FiretechI don't feel really confident with the Swedish i18n team page. The latest news post is saying that they just finished translating KDE 2.2.2, and are now focusing on 3.0...11:46
Firetechand it is from 200111:47
Tm_Thaha11:47
Tm_TFiretech: so sad ;(11:47
FiretechThey ARE still working...11:47
Tm_TFiretech: yeah sure ] ;=11:47
FiretechKDE 3.4.1 is available in Swedish, so is KOffice 1.4.11:47
RiddellFiretech: they have impressive stats though http://i18n.kde.org/stats/gui/trunk/sv/index.php11:48
Tm_TFiretech: how about fi-swe fight? ;--P11:48
FiretechRiddell: apart from the file conflict and the missing language packages, koffice seems to be working fine, good job.11:48
RiddellFiretech: can you open .doc files?11:49
FiretechI haven't tried that yet11:49
RiddellFiretech: could you try please11:49
Firetechyes, I can,11:49
Firetechboth try and open.11:49
RiddellFiretech: excellent11:50
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Firetechatleast a .doc with the about:mozilla page from firefox ;)11:50
Riddellbreezy has libwv troubles but good to know hoary works11:50
FiretechI made a T-shirt from that while I was using windows.11:50
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FiretechAnd so at last the beast fell and the unbelievers rejoiced. But all was not lost, for from the ash rose a great bird. The bird gazed down upon the unbelievers and cast fire and thunder upon them. For the beast had been reborn with its strength renewed, and the followers of Mammon cowered in horror.11:51
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FiretechIt's so much "mouahahahaha M$"11:51
Firetechouch... Riddell... I can't see any images in .doc files... :/11:52
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bradydoes anybody know about zodb on ubuntu?11:53
mozzianybody here installed kubuntu in a corporate environment?11:53
mozzias desktops?11:53
Mezmozzi - what sort of thing are you lookign to use it for in a corporate environment11:55
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Firetechand Kword complains that OO.o2 created .odt files doesn't follow OASIS...(?!)11:55
mozziwell Mez my main worry is M$ word compat11:56
mozzirun them off openxchange allready so mail is no biggie11:56
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Firetechmozzi: the included OpenOffice is pretty completly compatible...11:56
Mezmozzi, most word docurments are compatible with Open Office, however, there can be some problems... and there's no real solution to that11:56
Mezbut it's pretty rare that openOffice doesnt work11:57
mozziI was afraid of that :D11:57
mozziyou know how end users are- if one doc doesn't work nothing works11:57
Mezmozzi... It will rarely not work11:57
Mezyeah i know11:58
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mozziand outputting to .doc for other users?11:58
mozziI tried that with my CV the other day and I had to send a pdf in the end11:58
mozziand then the link to pdf reader...........11:59
Firetechmozzi: OpenOffice complains a little that "some formatting may be ignored with the format you selected"11:59
mozziyeah but peeps on other side complain even more12:00
Tm_TI'm glad I can use txt ;)12:00
mozziand going doc->oo-.doc is a nightmare12:00
FiretechTm_T: where are you from?12:00
_nate_it what file is my network configuration stored, as in, what file holds my manual ip address configuration?12:00
mozziwas hoping there is a commercial solution12:00
Tm_TFiretech: Eastern Finland, Joensuu12:01
Firetechok12:01
_nate_in what file*12:01
Firetech_nate_: /etc/hosts?12:01
mozzi_nate_: /etc/networks/12:01

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