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jbaileyzul: Which one?12:23
zulit was included in the kernel-janitors patchset12:23
jbaileyCool.12:25
jbaileyHas someone come up with a full changelog yet? =)12:26
jbaileyI don't actually care enough to assemble it myself, but I usually learn alot from them.12:26
zulyeah there is one in the debian directory12:27
jbaileyAh.  I haven't done an upgrade since Friday.12:30
zuli think fabbione added it this morning though12:35
TheMuso/cl/cl12:43
zulwheee...install breezy under qemu12:44
karlhegNaptime... and turn on the AC.  qemu on my laptop burns 100% CPU and is slow as molasses in January.12:46
karlhegI wonder if it can run faster?  It totally emulates, even on native CPU, right?12:50
zuluh huh12:50
karlhegBummer.  It would be cool if it did not have to emulate every instruction.12:51
karlhegXen sounds promising.  I've yet to take the time to try it.12:51
jbaileyOh, I didn't know qemu fully emulated.01:08
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karlhegjbailey, dunno.01:12
karlhegjbailey, Hey, I'm wading through the kernel right now, learning about the file system and such;01:12
karlheghttp://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/lk/lk-8.html01:12
karlheg... to find the answers to the questions I had earlier wrt what the move mount does.01:13
jbaileyCool.  Did it help?01:13
karlhegI should have a patch for you by the end of the evening nonetheless.01:13
karlhegYes, but I'm not there yet.01:13
jbailey=)01:14
karlhegAnd, it's gym time.  I'm going to take an hour off to go lift weights and think about it.01:14
karlhegYou don't get to be a giant on cake and coffee... so it's barbells and a steak, then back to reading.01:14
karlhegAny ideas before I run?01:15
jbaileyOther than the immediate one of, "Steak? Eww...."01:15
karlhegAh, sorry.  ^H01:15
jbailey=)01:15
jbaileyI keep forgotting that there are non-vegans in Portland. =)01:16
karlhegs/Steak/Solid Food/g.01:16
jbaileySo so many wonderful vegan restaurants. =)01:16
karlhegSure.01:16
karlhegI'm omnivorous.01:16
karlhegThat means I eat both meat and potatoes.01:16
karlheg:-)01:17
jbailey*lol*01:17
karlhegL8r on.01:17
zuljbailey: http://zulinux.homelinux.net/Screenshot.png01:28
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fabbionemorning06:11
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fabbioneBAH09:31
fabbioneno wonder there was no ABI difference....09:31
fabbionethe ABI checker didn't realize we were working on the same version but a different revision09:31
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chmjfabbione: mirror suppport for uscan-modules done gonna push the last update to kwatch as soon as I finish updateing the url's 11:40
fabbionechmj: cool11:40
zulhola01:46
chmjbonjour chuck 01:47
zulhey chmj how goes it?01:48
fabbionehey zul01:49
zulhey fabbione 01:49
zulso udev hasnt entered experimental yet?01:50
chmjzul, good u ?01:50
zultired...just got up01:50
fabbionenope01:50
zulmeh..01:50
zulhow are the drivers coming?02:00
fabbionezul: working on them.. but not top priority02:02
zulcool02:02
fabbionezul: specially because i figured 2 problems.. the abi checker was not checking and the udev stuff02:14
zulyeah the udev stuff is going to be fun...i blame foobar02:14
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fabbioneok.. Md did shed some light02:33
fabbionewe can upload .12 with our udev02:33
fabbionethe only results are slow down at boot02:33
zulyay! :)02:33
fabbioneonce we get the new version of udev, everybody will have to upgrade to kernel .1202:33
fabbionebecause it's not backward compatible02:33
fabbioneso we don't have too much time to fix the overall02:33
zulcrappers02:34
fabbionescore!02:37
fabbione8 FTBFS fixed :)02:37
chmjsweet 02:37
jbaileyFeh.  Everyone repeat after me:02:43
jbaileyDon't include linux/config.h in userspace applications.02:44
zulwtf? :)02:44
jbaileyRelying on what you think is included in the kernel is a bad idea in a distribution.  always do runtime tests.02:44
fabbionejbailey: iptables?02:47
jbaileyfabbione: Yes.02:48
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chmjftbfs 02:48
jbaileyRception de: 2 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main iptables 1.3.1-2 (tar) [1283kB] 02:48
jbailey1284ko rceptionns en 15s (83,8ko/s)02:48
jbaileydpkg-source: error: unrecognised file suffix `.tar'02:48
jbaileyWTH?02:48
jbaileyI don't drink enough for this.02:48
chmjjbailey, dpkg is broken 02:48
fabbione./uscan-extmod --report --watchfile passed.kwatch .02:49
fabbioneProcessing ./passed.kwatch ......02:49
fabbioneuscan-extmod: Malformed file url mangler02:49
fabbionechmj: ^^02:49
jbaileychmj: Is there a suggested work around?  Like, will I be able to build packages?02:49
chmj<Kamion> probably best wait for the dpkg fix, or get the patch off Keybuk and test it02:49
chmjfabbione, oh yes, the file format changed a little 02:49
fabbionechmj: well.. you need to update the passed.kwatch too dude...02:50
fabbioneor tell me exactly how it did change02:50
chmjhold on 02:50
jbaileychmj: Yar.02:51
jbaileyfabbione: I'll try and do iptables a bit later then.02:51
fabbionejbailey: no hurry...02:52
fabbionei am more concerned about gcc* on ppc at the moment02:52
fabbionedoko: you around?02:52
dokoyes02:52
fabbioneok02:52
fabbionei guess you both remember the mail i did send to you about unionfs for ppc02:52
fabbionei did try with gcc-4.0 and it is another ICE02:53
chmjfabbione, just remove any spaces after the version number, for each line 02:53
fabbionejbailey, doko: i suggest that one of you guys look at it directly...02:53
dokofabbione: nice :)02:53
chmjjbailey: you gonna get the patch off Keybuk? or ask doko if he didn't do it earlier 02:53
fabbioneon breezy/davis chroot there are all the kernel build-deps02:54
dokochmj: ???02:54
jbaileychmj: I'm leaving for Ottawa in an hour, I'll just grab it from the archive tomorrow.02:54
fabbioneyou only need to enable CONFIG_UNIONFS to get the ICE02:54
fabbionechmj: i am pretty sure i removed all the spaces, but i will check again02:54
zulbbl02:54
chmjdoko: jbailey wanted to know about any workaround for dpkg 02:55
chmjfabbione: works, if you remove the spaces 02:56
fabbioneok02:57
dokofabbione: I'll have a look at it tomorrow morning03:00
fabbionedoko: ok03:00
jbaileydoko: If there's anyone I should poke tomorrow, lemme know. =)03:05
fabbionejbailey: run the build during a talk.. steal the overhead projector cable and yell: "MY KERNEL MAINTAINER SAYS THAT YOU ALL SUCK! SEE?!?!?"03:06
jbaileyI'd be scared of pissing of richard henderson.03:06
zulyeah then they have riots in the bytowne03:06
jbaileyHe wears steel toe boots to his talks.03:06
fabbioneahahah03:06
chmjhahahaha03:08
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fabbionecool03:51
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chmjfabbione, have you made changes to kwatch ?04:51
fabbionechmj: yes.. i removed the spaces as you told me to04:52
fabbioneand updated a few versions04:52
fabbione(hit: running baz update before starting changes is a life saver)04:52
chmjyeah, I know, I updated before changing, but that was a while ago 04:54
fabbionechmj: second hint: commit more often :)04:55
chmjfabbione: sure, I have a reaaaaalllllyyy slow connection 04:55
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fabbioneso do i.. only 2M/512k04:56
fabbionei need to get that 100Mb connection to the 10GB city ring04:56
fabbioneanyway i am off for a while04:57
fabbionei am too tired to keep going04:57
chmj2MB, and you complaining ?04:58
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brodmanni'm trying to extract a .run file, but everytime it extracts to the folder, when it's finished, it deletes that tmp folder07:22
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karlhegAnyone know how I can get source to jbailey's udev-klibc?  'apt-src' cannot find it.09:50
karlhegHe's marked away, in transit to conferences.  I'll check his website.09:51

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