[12:23] <jbailey> zul: Which one?
[12:23] <zul> it was included in the kernel-janitors patchset
[12:25] <jbailey> Cool.
[12:26] <jbailey> Has someone come up with a full changelog yet? =)
[12:26] <jbailey> I don't actually care enough to assemble it myself, but I usually learn alot from them.
[12:27] <zul> yeah there is one in the debian directory
[12:30] <jbailey> Ah.  I haven't done an upgrade since Friday.
[12:35] <zul> i think fabbione added it this morning though
[12:43] <TheMuso> /cl/cl
[12:44] <zul> wheee...install breezy under qemu
[12:46] <karlheg> Naptime... and turn on the AC.  qemu on my laptop burns 100% CPU and is slow as molasses in January.
[12:50] <karlheg> I wonder if it can run faster?  It totally emulates, even on native CPU, right?
[12:50] <zul> uh huh
[12:51] <karlheg> Bummer.  It would be cool if it did not have to emulate every instruction.
[12:51] <karlheg> Xen sounds promising.  I've yet to take the time to try it.
[01:08] <jbailey> Oh, I didn't know qemu fully emulated.
[01:12] <karlheg> jbailey, dunno.
[01:12] <karlheg> jbailey, Hey, I'm wading through the kernel right now, learning about the file system and such;
[01:12] <karlheg> http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/lk/lk-8.html
[01:13] <karlheg> ... to find the answers to the questions I had earlier wrt what the move mount does.
[01:13] <jbailey> Cool.  Did it help?
[01:13] <karlheg> I should have a patch for you by the end of the evening nonetheless.
[01:13] <karlheg> Yes, but I'm not there yet.
[01:14] <jbailey> =)
[01:14] <karlheg> And, it's gym time.  I'm going to take an hour off to go lift weights and think about it.
[01:14] <karlheg> You don't get to be a giant on cake and coffee... so it's barbells and a steak, then back to reading.
[01:15] <karlheg> Any ideas before I run?
[01:15] <jbailey> Other than the immediate one of, "Steak? Eww...."
[01:15] <karlheg> Ah, sorry.  ^H
[01:15] <jbailey> =)
[01:16] <jbailey> I keep forgotting that there are non-vegans in Portland. =)
[01:16] <karlheg> s/Steak/Solid Food/g.
[01:16] <jbailey> So so many wonderful vegan restaurants. =)
[01:16] <karlheg> Sure.
[01:16] <karlheg> I'm omnivorous.
[01:16] <karlheg> That means I eat both meat and potatoes.
[01:17] <karlheg> :-)
[01:17] <jbailey> *lol*
[01:17] <karlheg> L8r on.
[01:28] <zul> jbailey: http://zulinux.homelinux.net/Screenshot.png
[06:11] <fabbione> morning
[09:31] <fabbione> BAH
[09:31] <fabbione> no wonder there was no ABI difference....
[09:31] <fabbione> the ABI checker didn't realize we were working on the same version but a different revision
[11:40] <chmj> fabbione: mirror suppport for uscan-modules done gonna push the last update to kwatch as soon as I finish updateing the url's 
[11:40] <fabbione> chmj: cool
[01:46] <zul> hola
[01:47] <chmj> bonjour chuck 
[01:48] <zul> hey chmj how goes it?
[01:49] <fabbione> hey zul
[01:49] <zul> hey fabbione 
[01:50] <zul> so udev hasnt entered experimental yet?
[01:50] <chmj> zul, good u ?
[01:50] <zul> tired...just got up
[01:50] <fabbione> nope
[01:50] <zul> meh..
[02:00] <zul> how are the drivers coming?
[02:02] <fabbione> zul: working on them.. but not top priority
[02:02] <zul> cool
[02:14] <fabbione> zul: specially because i figured 2 problems.. the abi checker was not checking and the udev stuff
[02:14] <zul> yeah the udev stuff is going to be fun...i blame foobar
[02:33] <fabbione> ok.. Md did shed some light
[02:33] <fabbione> we can upload .12 with our udev
[02:33] <fabbione> the only results are slow down at boot
[02:33] <zul> yay! :)
[02:33] <fabbione> once we get the new version of udev, everybody will have to upgrade to kernel .12
[02:33] <fabbione> because it's not backward compatible
[02:33] <fabbione> so we don't have too much time to fix the overall
[02:34] <zul> crappers
[02:37] <fabbione> score!
[02:37] <fabbione> 8 FTBFS fixed :)
[02:37] <chmj> sweet 
[02:43] <jbailey> Feh.  Everyone repeat after me:
[02:44] <jbailey> Don't include linux/config.h in userspace applications.
[02:44] <zul> wtf? :)
[02:44] <jbailey> Relying on what you think is included in the kernel is a bad idea in a distribution.  always do runtime tests.
[02:47] <fabbione> jbailey: iptables?
[02:48] <jbailey> fabbione: Yes.
[02:48] <chmj> ftbfs 
[02:48] <jbailey> Rception de: 2 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main iptables 1.3.1-2 (tar) [1283kB] 
[02:48] <jbailey> 1284ko rceptionns en 15s (83,8ko/s)
[02:48] <jbailey> dpkg-source: error: unrecognised file suffix `.tar'
[02:48] <jbailey> WTH?
[02:48] <jbailey> I don't drink enough for this.
[02:48] <chmj> jbailey, dpkg is broken 
[02:49] <fabbione> ./uscan-extmod --report --watchfile passed.kwatch .
[02:49] <fabbione> Processing ./passed.kwatch ......
[02:49] <fabbione> uscan-extmod: Malformed file url mangler
[02:49] <fabbione> chmj: ^^
[02:49] <jbailey> chmj: Is there a suggested work around?  Like, will I be able to build packages?
 probably best wait for the dpkg fix, or get the patch off Keybuk and test it
[02:49] <chmj> fabbione, oh yes, the file format changed a little 
[02:50] <fabbione> chmj: well.. you need to update the passed.kwatch too dude...
[02:50] <fabbione> or tell me exactly how it did change
[02:50] <chmj> hold on 
[02:51] <jbailey> chmj: Yar.
[02:51] <jbailey> fabbione: I'll try and do iptables a bit later then.
[02:52] <fabbione> jbailey: no hurry...
[02:52] <fabbione> i am more concerned about gcc* on ppc at the moment
[02:52] <fabbione> doko: you around?
[02:52] <doko> yes
[02:52] <fabbione> ok
[02:52] <fabbione> i guess you both remember the mail i did send to you about unionfs for ppc
[02:53] <fabbione> i did try with gcc-4.0 and it is another ICE
[02:53] <chmj> fabbione, just remove any spaces after the version number, for each line 
[02:53] <fabbione> jbailey, doko: i suggest that one of you guys look at it directly...
[02:53] <doko> fabbione: nice :)
[02:53] <chmj> jbailey: you gonna get the patch off Keybuk? or ask doko if he didn't do it earlier 
[02:54] <fabbione> on breezy/davis chroot there are all the kernel build-deps
[02:54] <doko> chmj: ???
[02:54] <jbailey> chmj: I'm leaving for Ottawa in an hour, I'll just grab it from the archive tomorrow.
[02:54] <fabbione> you only need to enable CONFIG_UNIONFS to get the ICE
[02:54] <fabbione> chmj: i am pretty sure i removed all the spaces, but i will check again
[02:54] <zul> bbl
[02:55] <chmj> doko: jbailey wanted to know about any workaround for dpkg 
[02:56] <chmj> fabbione: works, if you remove the spaces 
[02:57] <fabbione> ok
[03:00] <doko> fabbione: I'll have a look at it tomorrow morning
[03:00] <fabbione> doko: ok
[03:05] <jbailey> doko: If there's anyone I should poke tomorrow, lemme know. =)
[03:06] <fabbione> jbailey: run the build during a talk.. steal the overhead projector cable and yell: "MY KERNEL MAINTAINER SAYS THAT YOU ALL SUCK! SEE?!?!?"
[03:06] <jbailey> I'd be scared of pissing of richard henderson.
[03:06] <zul> yeah then they have riots in the bytowne
[03:06] <jbailey> He wears steel toe boots to his talks.
[03:06] <fabbione> ahahah
[03:08] <chmj> hahahaha
[03:51] <fabbione> cool
[04:51] <chmj> fabbione, have you made changes to kwatch ?
[04:52] <fabbione> chmj: yes.. i removed the spaces as you told me to
[04:52] <fabbione> and updated a few versions
[04:52] <fabbione> (hit: running baz update before starting changes is a life saver)
[04:54] <chmj> yeah, I know, I updated before changing, but that was a while ago 
[04:55] <fabbione> chmj: second hint: commit more often :)
[04:55] <chmj> fabbione: sure, I have a reaaaaalllllyyy slow connection 
[04:56] <fabbione> so do i.. only 2M/512k
[04:56] <fabbione> i need to get that 100Mb connection to the 10GB city ring
[04:57] <fabbione> anyway i am off for a while
[04:57] <fabbione> i am too tired to keep going
[04:58] <chmj> 2MB, and you complaining ?
[07:22] <brodmann> i'm trying to extract a .run file, but everytime it extracts to the folder, when it's finished, it deletes that tmp folder
[09:50] <karlheg> Anyone know how I can get source to jbailey's udev-klibc?  'apt-src' cannot find it.
[09:51] <karlheg> He's marked away, in transit to conferences.  I'll check his website.