/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2005/06/29/#kubuntu-devel.txt

=== KabelKasper [~vloechte@i5387D4BC.versanet.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete]
=== Mez [~mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== \sh [~sh@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== froud [~sean@ndn-165-139-210.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== JRe [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== guinsel [~guinsel@81-203-46-54.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== guinsel [~guinsel@81-203-46-54.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel
haggaiRiddell: for KDE, it looks for KDE_FULL_SESSION or window manager=KWin11:18
haggaiRiddell: for Gnome, it looks for GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID, or window list properties GNOME_SM_PROXY or NAUTILUS_DESKTOP_WINDOW_ID, or a running gnome-panel11:19
haggaiRiddell: that's taken from a reading of the 1.9.78 source11:20
JRehehe new ktvschedule works!11:43
Riddellhaggai: thanks11:44
RiddellJRe: woo11:44
=== hunger [~hunger@195.143.232.242] has joined #kubuntu-devel
JRekay added on kde apps12:17
JReRiddell: ktvschedule new upstream packaged ;)12:53
=== calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel
RiddellJRe: build failure on ktvschedule01:46
Riddellmoc: channelselect_ui.h: No such file01:46
JReRiddell: ok01:47
JReRiddell: okay fixed02:18
JReRiddell: i am going to use DBUS- HAL for Kay in order to make it mounter independent ;) i mailed Kevin Otten from medio ioslave.02:19
RiddellKevin doesn't like hal02:20
JReRiddell: i am going to use the same system than him02:21
JReRiddell: because he already detect these event in media ioslave, no?02:22
RiddellJRe: he didn't write the hal backend02:23
JReRiddell: hum02:23
JReRiddell: i am going to take a look in the media ioslave source to see what i can do! but it's better for Kay to be mounter independant no (= 0 configuration needed) ???02:24
RiddellI imagine so yes02:26
hungerIsen't there a DB thingy included in koffice 1.4?02:52
KaiLnot in breezy02:54
Riddellhunger: kexi is being packaged separatly02:54
hungerWhy? Because the one in koffice is outdated already?02:55
Riddellyes02:55
hungerRiddell: Great, then we'll get the latest and greatest!02:55
=== hunger waits for updated kexi packages as patiently as he can.
Riddellelmo: do you know why kexi hasn't been imported with debian auto-sync?02:59
elmo      kexi | 0.9beta1-1 | breezy/universe | source03:02
Riddellah hah03:07
JRecool :)03:10
hungerAnd that means?03:22
hungerkexi will be autobuild soonish?03:22
Riddellhunger: naw, it failed, I'll ask for it to be put back once I've confirmed there's no gcc issues03:23
=== hunger [~hunger@195.143.232.242] has left #kubuntu-devel ["...]
JReRiddell: anyone is packaging dataKiosk ?03:59
RiddellJRe: nope, please do04:02
RiddellKTorrent is another one that would be nice to have packaged04:03
\shRiddell: pointer?04:03
Riddellhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuSuggestedPackages04:03
RiddellI havn't tried it, might be a good reason why nobody has packaged it for all I know04:04
\shit's bloody ugly04:04
\sheven my KPyBT is much nicer04:05
uniqI can start doing some more packaging when the weekend comes. I'll be finished with my psychology papers tonight or tomorrow. finally.04:05
\shand PyBT is working...at least I can download torrents with fullspeed and upload with 1kb/s ,-)04:06
\shlet me try kpybt if its working with breezy ;)04:07
Riddelluniq: and people are asking about KOffice ppc packages :)04:07
uniqriddell: will be ready soon.. started the compile before i got to bed yesterday.. but it failed.. so i'll have to restart it now :)04:08
JReRiddell: yeah KTorrent is a great idea. I think KHttrack could also be usefull04:13
JRe\sh: ow you're developping a torrent manager in QT ?04:13
\shJRe: for kde :)04:14
\shhttp://photos.shermann.blogweb.de/main.php/v/shermannpics/kpybt/04:14
\shhttp://developer.berlios.de/projects/kpybt04:15
uniqgreat.04:16
uniqfinally i can throw azureus away.04:16
\shthe functionality is in my first version PyBT (QTonly)04:17
JRe\sh: wow congrats ;)04:17
JRe\sh: it's a wat better than ktorrent!04:17
JRes/wat/way/04:17
JReuniq: yeah me too! i am so happy04:17
\shso for the backend I need nothing else then copy and paste04:17
uniqthe websearch thing in ktorrent looks nice though :)04:17
\shit's using bittorrent python classes and threads for the stuff...and the rest is mockup04:18
\shuniq: easy :)04:18
\shtorrentsearch.com ;)04:18
uniqyeah.. or something you can edit yourself.04:18
\shand another idea is to include a rss aggregator ;)04:18
JRe\sh: i'll try it as soon as you will have packaged it04:18
uniq\sh: something like the webshortcuts in konq.. you can add/edit/remove your own search engines. would be great. nice project :)04:20
uniqi'll have to learn python this summer, no doubt.04:20
\shuniq: let me finish the first version ;)04:20
uniqsure.. just got so excited :)04:20
\shbtw...what u saw with the config dlg04:20
\shit's a working version of KConfigXT in PyKDE :)04:20
\shand actually, only ubuntu has the correct and working package ;)04:21
uniqnice :)04:21
JRe\sh: you have a damg interresting project on the read!04:21
JRes/damg/damn/04:21
JRes/read/road/04:21
\shtoo many for my time schedule ;)04:21
\shuniq: programming kde with python+pyqt+pykde is just like plain c++, but the compile times are less then a minimum04:22
JRe\sh: you're programming other KDE apps?04:23
\shjre: if the backend of the libupdatemanager is finished (hopefully soon) I will take the kde frontend for it...and actually a replacement for kynaptic04:23
Riddelllibupdatemanager?04:24
\shriddell: ubw:UpdateManager ,-)04:24
JRe\sh: you're using libap-front for the kynaptic replacement ?04:24
\shjre: no..python-apt04:24
\shjre: mvo is coding on it...so we can use it for installing removing checking updating deb archives04:25
JRe\sh: okay seems great!04:25
\shjre: my old apps for kde: http://freshmeat.net/projects/kwhois/04:25
JRe\sh: i actually try to help on the lib-aptfront project but it's not easy at all to code such a thing04:26
\shjre: http://freshmeat.net/projects/kmyirc/04:26
\sh(kmyirc is even older then konversation) ,-)04:26
\shnever had the time to finish it..and nobody wanted to take over..so it's a ghost project, but good for looking up for some code samples in c++ ;)04:26
\shkwhois works...and should even work with kde 3.4 (after replacing admin dir and recompile )04:27
JRe\sh: ;) whatever if you need help on the kynaptic replacement project poke me i am very interessted in it!!!04:27
JRe\sh: (if you could giveme the project page ;) )04:28
\shoh I just saw on the screenshots of kmyirc, that freenode was formerly known as openprojects.net ,-)04:28
\shjre: wiki.ubuntu.com/UpdateManager04:29
\shor more easy: apt-get install kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts ; and then ubw:UpdateManager04:29
JRe\sh: kubuntu-konqueror-shortcut is on hoary ???04:30
\shjre: oh no..breezy ;)04:30
\shjre: but get the sources from breezy and rebuild for hoary ;) 04:30
uniqis breezy useable now? 04:30
JRe\sh: yeah ;)04:31
Riddell\sh: and what's the current status of libupdatemanager?04:31
\shRiddell: far from complete04:32
JRe\sh: updatemanager is a replacement for kynaptic ???04:33
\shjre: no...but many of the logic is in there...for python-apt abstraction etc.04:33
\sheverything what doesn't belong in a GUI app, should be in there.04:33
JRe\sh: aaa okay right ;)04:34
JRe\sh: okay so the kynaptic replacement is not started at all, just the lib are beeing worked ?04:35
\shjre: u can see some early mockups on my blog ;) 04:35
\shhttp://linux.blogweb.de/archives/11-Pynaptiq-A-Kynaptic-Replacement.html04:36
\shhttp://linux.blogweb.de/archives/12-More-from-Pynaptiq.html04:36
\shJRe: it was my first attempt: 1. to write something useful in python with pyqt, 2. my first step with python-apt (less docu, more hacking and much more trial and error)04:37
JRe\sh: wow04:37
\shjre: i don't know if u can see the flash movie04:37
JRe\sh: nop! but i definitively want to help you! i'll take a good look to python-apt04:37
=== motaboy [~motaboy@host105-39.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel
JRe\sh: it's already possible to install a package?04:39
\shjre: no, cause python-apt can't install a packge right now..I just made some test with untaring the control.tar.gz that was working but nothing else04:40
\shjre: it was the time of UDU and when ogra saw my attempts he reported to mvo  and well....we came together for this04:41
\shRiddell: the kde ui designer was kdevdesigner?04:46
Riddell\sh: qt designer or kdevdesigner04:48
\shRiddell: hmm...why is it crashing?04:48
Riddellworks for me04:48
\sh(no debugging symbols found)04:49
\shUsing host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".04:49
\sh(no debugging symbols found)04:49
\sh`system-supplied DSO at 0xffffe000' has disappeared; keeping its symbols.04:49
\sh(breezy )04:49
\shneed to be recompiled because of new qt lib?04:49
\shahhh04:50
\shhere it is04:50
\shConflict in /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/designer/kdepimwidgets.so:04:51
\sh  Plugin uses incompatible Qt library!04:51
\shConflict in /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/designer/kpartsdesignerplugin.so:04:51
\sh  Plugin uses incompatible Qt library!04:51
\shConflict in /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/designer/libqscintillaplugin.so:04:51
\sh  Plugin uses incompatible Qt library!04:51
Riddelltime for me to upgrade then04:52
\shok..libqscintilla i can take04:52
\shafter this, i have to push pyqt and pykde again into the buildds04:52
Riddell\sh: why do you need to do that?04:55
\shRiddell: to recreate the c++ python bindings...04:56
\shw804:56
\shlet me check first the changes to qt04:56
\shbut libqscintilla has go through04:57
\shwhy is the lib incompatible to the old build, actually?05:00
Riddellqt designer's plugins seen to have very strict requirements of which Qt they work with05:02
\shRiddell: and the plugins are build by kdelibs or kdevelop?05:03
Riddell\sh: kdelibs05:04
uniqhah.. crazy http://www.merkeylaw.com/article.php?story=20050621145053855&mode=print05:04
\shqscintila is uploaded for recompile05:05
Riddelluniq: new koffice packages up.  use those if compiling for PPC05:20
uniqok. at kubuntu.org ? 05:20
Riddelluniq: yes05:21
uniqwill do.. just started the build.. restarting now.05:21
uniqnice percentage indicator while compiling koffice :)05:41
Riddelluniq: that's the magic of unsermake05:49
uniqnice.. haven't tried unsermake before.05:50
Riddelldoes make the .diff.gz somewhat large05:50
uniqdid you take a look at the new kbandwidth package? MOTUNewPackages doesn't seem to be updated.05:53
uniqthe issues mentioned there should be fixed.05:53
JReuniq: you have made a package using unsermake + cdbs ?05:55
uniqjre: no, never used unsermake.. i use cdbs and debhelper mostly.05:55
uniqi'm just compiling koffice for ppc.05:55
JReuniq: okay! i was looking for a package using cdbs and unsermake to see how to get it work!05:58
uniqdon't have that yet.05:59
RiddellJRe: I think I made one06:00
Riddellbut I can't remember which now06:00
JReRiddell: i'll investigate your packages ;)06:00
=== motaboy hates the qt plugins magic key. But they are useful to mantain BIC
=== _froud [~sean@ndn-165-139-210.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== motaboy [~motaboy@host105-39.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== JRe [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel
JReRiddell: in how many time will KDE 3.5 go out ?07:04
JReRiddell: (more or less)07:06
\shRiddell: which packages must be uploaded for new qt compile of kde? kdepim and ? is it main or universe?07:30
uniqkdepim is universe in breezy.. says apt-cache policy07:35
\shwill check tomorrow...07:36
\shhave to go and wash my clothes ;)07:36
uniqgood luck.07:37
=== m-fox [~m-fox@port-212-202-8-124.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel
=== KabelKasper [~vloechte@i5387EDE9.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel
Riddellamu spotted, back left http://www.kstuff.org/lt2k5/day1/800.IMG_1874.JPG09:59
RiddellI recognise that operating system http://www.kstuff.org/lt2k5/day1/800.IMG_1865.JPG09:59
uniqnice :)10:00
uniqamu with the debian shirt? 10:00
Riddellyes10:02
uniqcool.10:03
Riddellkexi has 0.9beta1-1 and I want to upload 0.9 but 0.9 is less that 0.9beta10:11
uniqheh. 10:17
froudis there a colony 1 iso for kubuntu somewhere10:17
uniqriddell: " we prefix thehttp://twistedmatrix.com/pipermail/twisted-commits/2003-September/008942.html  10:19
uniq+previous version to the actual version. 1.0.6+1.0.7rc1 is <em>less10:19
uniq+than</em> 1.0.7." 10:19
uniqgah.. irssi didn't understand how i wanted that pasted :] 10:19
Riddellyes, that's what he should have done10:21
Riddellor used the ~ operator10:21
Riddelltsk tsk10:21
uniqhow does ~ work in versioning? 10:21
Riddell0.9final seems good to me10:21
Riddelluniq: ~ was added fairly recently to mean less than so 0.9~beta1 is less than 0.910:21
uniqah. nice.10:22
Riddellbut I guess this kexi packager hasn't heard of it10:22
uniqyou can use 1:0.9-1 too, right? 10:23
RiddellI could but then it'll be completely out of sync with debian10:24
uniqgood point. 10:25
=== m-fox [~m-fox@port-212-202-8-124.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete]
uniqhmm.. 2.6.12 has some new numbers in dmesg.. 11:06
uniqriddell: koffice for ppc is uploaded. http://frode.kde.no/hoary-updates/ppc/koffice/ 11:46
=== KabelKasper [~vloechte@i5387EDE9.versanet.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete]
=== KaiL [KaiL@p548F7965.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!