[12:02] <mozzi> _nate_: sorry /etc/network/interfaces
[12:02] <Firetech> Tm_T: I'm from southern Sweden, "Skne"
[12:02] <_nate_> mozzi, k, thanks
[12:02] <Tm_T> Firetech: ah, my fathers cousin lives there
[12:03] <Firetech> Tm_T: what city?
[12:03] <Tm_T> can't remember
[12:03] <mozzi> _nate_: just read man interfaces
[12:17] <_nate_> what command gives me a timestamp?
[12:18] <Firetech> gnite guys. I'm gonna go dream happy about my new pressed ubuntu CDs :) (If I don't wake up because of my new braces (teeth things), that is.)
[12:18] <Firetech> _nate_: time? date?
[12:18] <Firetech> not time.
[12:18] <Firetech> date it is
[12:19] <_nate_> now say I wanted to put a timestamp in a filename when creating the file, how can i get a digit only timestamp?
[12:19] <Firetech> _nate_: read man date, it's pretty confgurable.
[12:20] <Firetech> then append " > filename-here" after the date command...
[12:21] <_nate_> no, i'll do touch file`datecommand`
[12:21] <_nate_> or mv file file`datecommand`
[12:22] <Firetech> whatever
[12:22] <Firetech> "date +%a > weekday.txt" is a working example.
[12:22] <_nate_> i don't want it within a file, i want it in the filename
[12:22] <_nate_> but thank you :)
[12:22] <Firetech> ah
[12:23] <Firetech> then you were more correct
[12:23] <_nate_> danke :)(
[12:23] <_nate_> err :)*
[12:24] <Firetech> good nite.
[12:24] <_nate_> likewise
[12:24] <Firetech> eh. night.
[12:25] <_nate_> date +%G%m%d%H%M%S
[12:30] <__P__3> uhmmm
[12:31] <__P__3> i cant find koffice in breezy
[12:31] <__P__3> do i have to add some new sources?
[12:35] <d> Hi!
[12:36] <d> Can I get a kubuntu amd64 install CD (or DVD even) with 3.4.1 and the new koffice anywhere yet??
[12:38] <d> Is it easy to upgrade an amd64 hoary install to KDE 3.4.1?
[12:45] <vicks> d: http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-341.php
[12:50] <d> vicks: thats prolly just x86 users though right? worraboot a64?
[12:51] <KaiL> looks like only ppc and i386
[12:52] <vicks> ah, sorry, it's a bit late here. my brain isn't in working-mode
[12:53] <KaiL> I guess, we "only" need somebody with hoary on an amd64 and a gcc to create the packages :)
[12:54] <Tm_T> :p
[12:55] <d> whens the next Breezy test release due?
[12:56] <KaiL> October
[12:56] <KaiL> eh, test...
[12:56] <KaiL> nobody knows :)
[12:56] <KaiL> http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/testing/breezy_probs.html ..when that list is clean :)
[12:57] <Tm_T> :p
[01:01] <vicks> do you think that kubuntu will bw moved more closely to ubuntu?
[01:03] <KaiL> ?
[01:04] <Riddell> vicks: it is part of ubuntu
[01:05] <Tm_T> heh
[01:05] <vicks> yeah i just saw that on the kubuntu.org, once again, i'm sorry, i'm tired 
[01:05] <Riddell> d: there's no new amd64 packages for hoary I'm afraid
[01:05] <Tm_T> np ;)
[01:06] <Riddell> d: you can compile them yourself of course
[01:07] <vicks> Riddell: how's breezy coming along?
[01:08] <d> Is breezy amd64 useable now?
[01:09] <Riddell> KDE in breezy is all good, X is still troublesome
[01:09] <d> is this x.org 6.8.??
[01:09] <__P__3> i cant find koffice in breezy
[01:09] <__P__3> do i have to add some new sources?
[01:09] <vicks> Riddell: ok. keep up the good work *cheer*
[01:10] <Riddell> __P__3: koffice 1.4 in breezy hasn't compiled yet due to X changes breaking kdelibs
[01:11] <__P__3> The packages have also been uploaded to our breezy development version. <--- this is on kubuntu site
[01:11] <Riddell> __P__3: uploaded doesn't mean they compiled :)
[01:12] <__P__3> :)
[01:12] <Riddell> looks like kdelibs has compiled fine now so I'll upload again, with any luck it'll appear in the archives in a couple of hours
[01:13] <d> anyone know when we can expect kde 3.5??
[01:14] <vicks> i think there should be some sort of link to, and info on kubuntu on ubuntu.com index-page
[01:15] <Riddell> d: good question.  it's not been decided yet
[01:16] <Riddell> vicks: agreed, feel free to hassle webmaster@ubuntu.com about it
[01:16] <Riddell> "koffice_1.4.0-0ubuntu3_source.changes ACCEPTED"  bed time
[01:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm trying to compile wine
[01:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i need somethng called c headers?
[01:19] <vicks> Riddell: I'll do that. The problem now (this is my opinion), is that people refer to the whole project (ubuntu/kubuntu-sphere) as "ubuntu", and it gets confusing to both new and old user, whether it means ubuntu_with_gnome, ubuntu_the_project or something else
[01:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how to get?
[01:23] <vicks> perhaps (this is just me thinking) have a gubuntu-desktop (gubuntu-users would really hate this, i know)
[01:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how to get the c compiler so i can compile wineCVS?
[01:24] <liz4rd> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnmnmmssmxkdnsdsmfsdnnddsnndnsnsndnnndndndndncmffmmnm,mf,mfl,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,efemd gdhf cvfcnef3mnmkmmknnn jfgtnjkmkgjgkvkmjmgmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmvbbbbvfd
[01:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> liz4rd hey whazzup man?
[01:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> did you fall asleep on the keyboard again?
[01:25] <KaiL> Riddell: could you...? :)
[01:26] <unome> Anyone installed koffice?
[01:26] <Tm_T> yup
[01:27] <unome> apt-get install koffice should get me the new 1.4?
[01:27] <Tm_T> actually using 1.4 last 4 days now
[01:27] <Tm_T> unome: topic
[01:27] <unome> whatcha mean topic? update list?
[01:28] <Tm_T> http://kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice-14.php
[01:28] <unome> looking at it .. and?
[01:28] <unome> I add that to my list already 
[01:28] <Tm_T> add the koffice repository and then apt-get update && upgrade
[01:29] <unome> I don't have it to update
[01:29] <Tm_T> if you have koffice already
 apt-get install koffice should get me the new 1.4?
[01:29] <Tm_T> yup
[01:29] <unome> thanks
[01:29] <Tm_T> BUT you have to apt-get update first
[01:30] <Tm_T> ofcourse
[01:30] <unome> 10/4
[01:31] <okaaay> Anyone have any idea if theres a way to change settings for treble/bass in kubuntu? Soundchipset is nforce2 ac97. Would know the answer myself, but I'm pretty much a noob at Linux.
[01:31] <unome> Install these packages without verification [y/N] ? <-- why is that?
[01:32] <unome> y aborts
[01:33] <vicks> when i write text in kwrite, the space between letters are different, sometimes almost overlapping. Anyone knows what this is about?
[01:35] <vicks> okaaay: i'm not in kde now, but what happens if you click on the soundicon in systray, isn't there a button called mixer there? 
[01:36] <okaaay> vicks, Sure is. 
[01:36] <okaaay> Though there's no bass or treble settings there.
[01:36] <vicks> okaaay: ok, just a thought
[01:37] <okaaay> Hey, any help is useful. (:
[01:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know what the hell a cheader is and how to get it so i can finish compling wine?
[01:38] <okaaay> I'll paste another question in here that I just asked in #ubuntu.. Maybe more answers here.
[01:39] <okaaay> Anyone got any experience installing an ATI-card (in my case, radeon X800XT) with (k)ubuntu? Got some problems(..).  I've followed most guides I've been able to find, and nothing has worked. What I just saw though was that even when I ran fglrxconfig and set my monitor to use 1280x1024 res, it reverts to 1600x1200, wich I set manualy earlier. It seems as though it doesnt even load the xorg.conf file.
[01:39] <okaaay> What has happend before  (and still is) is that it's giving me an errormessage when I type fglrxinfo.. Something like Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". And on no forums have I found an answer to this message.
[01:39] <vicks> there is an app called kmixer, is that the same one as the one you get when you click on the soundiceon in systray?  if not you could maybe try that one
[01:40] <okaaay> vicks, Yeah, that's the one. Have also tried alsamixer in console.
[01:41] <vicks> okaaay: ok, sorry can't help you
[01:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> you guys know the flash 7 problem in mozilla yes?
[01:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> whats the setting to change the version number from 1.0 to 1.0.4
[01:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm trying to help my freind and forgot
[01:47] <blueyed> ChurcH_of_FoamY: firefox version? somewhere in "about:config" (as url). But there's 1.0.4 with ubuntu. You have to activate the sources in /etc/apt/sources.list probably..
[01:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok
[02:01] <unome> ChurcH_of_FoamY: about:config > general.useragent.vendorSub 
[02:01] <unome> change it to 1.0.4
[02:04] <spiritz> hey
[02:04] <spiritz> is there any kubuntu user with breezy around?
[02:19] <liz4rd> CHEESE!!!
[02:22] <Tm_T> Riddell: ping
[02:23] <liz4rd> pong
[02:23] <liz4rd> ^_^
[02:23] <Tm_T> eh
[02:23] <liz4rd> never mind 
[02:23] <Tm_T> =)
[02:24] <Tm_T> amu: ping
[02:24] <Tm_T> bling
[02:40] <penguinboy> hey guys
[02:41] <liz4rd> hey
[02:41] <penguinboy> hey my man
[02:41] <Tm_T> hi penguinboy 
[02:41] <penguinboy> hey TT
[02:42] <Tm_T> TT?
[02:42] <penguinboy> Tm-T
[02:42] <penguinboy> tt
[02:42] <penguinboy> my little abbreviation
[02:42] <Tm_T> ah, you're yankee?
[02:42] <penguinboy> no.....a Southerner
[02:42] <Tm_T> =)
[02:42] <liz4rd> lol
[02:42] <liz4rd> now now children
[02:43] <Tm_T> yankee = US citizen
[02:43] <Tm_T> to me atleast
[02:43] <penguinboy> you are Finnish?
[02:43] <penguinboy> oh.....to me....Yankee's are northern American's
[02:43] <Tm_T> yup
[02:44] <penguinboy> them rabble rousers that caused all of the trouble in the big war
[02:44] <Tm_T> penguinboy: hmm, Northern America is US and Canada ;p
[02:44] <penguinboy> northern Americans
[02:44] <penguinboy> oh
[02:44] <penguinboy> lol
[02:44] <Tm_T> just joking
[02:45] <penguinboy> so my boyyfriend Liz is a Northerner
[02:45] <liz4rd> hey hey hey
[02:45] <liz4rd> i'm not your boyfriend
[02:45] <penguinboy> you r 2
[02:45] <liz4rd> am not
[02:45] <Tm_T> hah
[02:45] <Tm_T> kids...
[02:45] <liz4rd> Tm_T is
[02:45] <Tm_T> liz4rd: perkeleen jenkki
[02:45] <liz4rd> ^_^
[02:45] <penguinboy> transgress told me all about your unrequited love for me
[02:46] <penguinboy> Tm_T are you Finnish?
[02:46] <liz4rd> bullshit i was all over Tm_T lastnight
[02:46] <liz4rd> LMAO
[02:46] <Tm_T> penguinboy: yes I am
[02:46] <penguinboy> YOU WERE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
[02:46] <liz4rd> yes
[02:46] <liz4rd> i was
[02:46] <liz4rd> right Tm_T
[02:46] <Tm_T> left
[02:46] <penguinboy> well i'll forgive you this one time....but you have to make it up to me in a special way!
[02:47] <liz4rd> oh god
[02:47] <liz4rd> not bondage again
[02:47] <Tm_T> penguinboy: special way = behind?
[02:47] <penguinboy> oh yes...
[02:47] <Tm_T> hah
[02:47] <Tm_T> head first
[02:47] <liz4rd> nah only on sundays
[02:47] <penguinboy> my little love snickerdoodle
[02:48] <liz4rd> ...no comment
[02:48] <penguinboy> LOL
[02:48] <penguinboy> scardy cat
[02:48] <liz4rd> lol
[02:48] <liz4rd> its funny coming on to random people :P
[02:48] <penguinboy> transgress told me that you ezxpress yur lvoe for me to him all of the time
[02:48] <liz4rd> penguinboy was the only one to go along with it :P
[02:48] <penguinboy> LOL
[02:48] <penguinboy> some peole think we are serious
[02:48] <Tm_T> kirvest moisille
[02:48] <Tm_T> penguinboy: I am
[02:49] <penguinboy> one person.....airox brought a irc op in here
[02:49] <liz4rd> yeah its so funny
[02:49] <liz4rd> lol yeah fuckign tool
[02:49] <liz4rd> he got all uncomfortable with his sexuality and brought in an OP
[02:49] <penguinboy> lmfao
[02:50] <liz4rd> its true
[02:50] <penguinboy> hey Liz...wanna hot on the next person to enter????
[02:50] <penguinboy> hit
[02:50] <liz4rd> yeah!!! LO
[02:50] <liz4rd> LOL
[02:50] <penguinboy> i hope it's monchy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[02:50] <penguinboy> LOL
[02:50] <penguinboy> hey Slice n Dice
[02:51] <penguinboy> how's it hanging???
[02:51] <Tm_T> don't hang too hard
[02:51] <liz4rd> SlicerDicer-: hey baby...2$ for all of me
[02:51] <penguinboy> i like em to hang real low
[02:51] <transgress> penguinboy: hey!
[02:51] <penguinboy> LOL
[02:51] <penguinboy> lmfao
[02:51] <penguinboy> here is the Linux god himself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:52] <transgress> joey, add transgress@jabber.unoc.net to your jabber list
[02:52] <liz4rd> LOL
[02:53] <transgress> my life only gets stranger
[02:53] <liz4rd> ^_^
[02:53] <liz4rd> your welcome
[02:53] <penguinboy> transgress sends me nudie pictures of liz4rd through jabber
[02:53] <liz4rd> OMG YOU SAID YOU WOULDNT
[02:53] <penguinboy> he did
[02:53] <sirukin> send me some too
[02:53] <penguinboy> i sent him a quarter through paypal
[02:54] <Tm_T> kkathman o/
[02:54] <transgress> penguinboy: click on my name and go to reauthorize in jabber... i still can't see you
[02:54] <liz4rd> here's a pic of me
[02:54] <liz4rd> http://www.biol.sc.edu/~vieyra/Bearded%20Dragon/lounge%20lizard.JPG
[02:54] <kkathman> allo Tm_T :)
[02:54] <transgress> here is me http://irclikelife.com/oldsite/pics/dreads2.jpg
[02:54] <liz4rd> look at me i'm so sexy
[02:54] <liz4rd> http://www.biol.sc.edu/~vieyra/Bearded%20Dragon/lounge%20lizard.JPG
[02:55] <transgress> i almost bought one of those back in the day
[02:55] <Tm_T> http://vellu.kapsi.fi/joensuu/web_DSCN3912.JPG
[02:55] <Tm_T> damn I'm sexy
[02:55] <liz4rd> lol @ Tm_T
[02:55] <Tm_T> ;p
[02:55] <liz4rd> did you look at mine?
[02:55] <Tm_T> I was totally drunk at that point
[02:56] <Tm_T> can't remember it
[02:56] <sirukin> if that's really you, ph33r.
[02:56] <penguinboy> lizard looks like em oh them thare porno stars!
[02:56] <kkathman> heh Tm_T 
[02:56] <liz4rd> LOL
[02:56] <penguinboy> hung like a horse he is
[02:56] <Tm_T> kkathman: ...and I woke up in ER
[02:56] <kkathman> eek!
[02:56] <Tm_T> good gig I might say
[02:56] <penguinboy> okay maybe not a horse....but I pony surely!
[02:56] <Tm_T> never do it again
[02:56] <liz4rd> check out my fox tail
[02:56] <liz4rd> http://www.biol.sc.edu/~vieyra/Bearded%20Dragon/lounge%20lizard.JPG
[02:57] <liz4rd> omg i creamed my self looking at my self
[02:57] <penguinboy> LOL
[02:57] <sirukin> hmm
[02:57] <penguinboy> yeah baby!
[02:57] <sirukin> wtf
[02:57] <liz4rd> LOL
[02:57] <Tm_T> liz4rd: I scream every morning when I look myself in a mirror
[02:57] <liz4rd> LOL!!!!! XD
[02:58] <liz4rd> i bet the mirror feels the same way
[02:58] <Tm_T> can't tell, it's broken
[02:58] <liz4rd> LOl
[02:58] <transgress> http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y169/lizziebeth104/DSCF1631.jpg
[02:59] <penguinboy> i love those dreads, RastaMan
[02:59] <transgress> thanks
[02:59] <liz4rd> RastaMan?
[02:59] <liz4rd> WTF
[02:59] <transgress> i'll be glad when they are longer... so it's a lot easier to sleep on them
[02:59] <liz4rd> you mean fuckstick
[02:59] <penguinboy> lol
[03:00] <liz4rd> i dub transgress sir fuckstick
[03:00] <penguinboy> lizard do not devulge our private life
[03:00] <transgress> i dub liz4rd a phone call at 3am
[03:00] <liz4rd> :( sorry
[03:00] <penguinboy> he is Sir RastaMan
[03:00] <liz4rd> dont so it :P
[03:00] <liz4rd> do*
[03:00] <penguinboy> what you and I do in the privacy of our own bedroom is no one's business
[03:00] <liz4rd> trangress really phones me thast the scary part
[03:01] <penguinboy> does he whisper sweet nothings into your ear?
[03:01] <liz4rd> penguinboy: transgress has see the videos
[03:01] <liz4rd> sometimes
[03:01] <penguinboy> the nekkid videoas?
[03:01] <liz4rd> yeah that one
[03:01] <penguinboy> i wanna see it
[03:01] <penguinboy> sirkun is mad at us me thinks
[03:01] <liz4rd> i dont got it anyone transgress has it
[03:01] <liz4rd> ask him to send on jabber
[03:01] <liz4rd> wait i got a preview
[03:02] <liz4rd> http://www.biol.sc.edu/~vieyra/Bearded%20Dragon/lounge%20lizard.JPG
[03:02] <penguinboy> Sir RastMan....send me the video on jabber purty please
[03:02] <penguinboy> RastaMan
[03:02] <liz4rd> his names keith
[03:02] <penguinboy> I know
[03:02] <liz4rd> ^_^
[03:02] <penguinboy> I know
[03:02] <penguinboy> lol
[03:03] <penguinboy> www.seeliz4admanmakepenguinboyintoapenguinman.com
[03:03] <liz4rd> LMFAO
[03:03] <transgress> we are gonna get this channel in trouble with lilo heh
[03:04] <penguinboy> once you've went penguin you'll never go back
[03:04] <penguinboy> i thought lilo was a boot loader
[03:04] <liz4rd> XD
[03:04] <transgress> lilo also runs this network
[03:04] <penguinboy> oops
[03:04] <transgress> ./whois lilo
[03:04] <penguinboy> does he read these posts
[03:05] <transgress> well what he does is that if there is a lot of offtopicness he will make the channel forward to ##kubuntu like he recently did #freebsd
[03:05] <penguinboy> he has been idle for 45 minutes
[03:05] <transgress> or ##slackware has been that way for a while... even though they have _no_ off topicness
[03:05] <liz4rd> lol
[03:05] <penguinboy> Rob Levin!
[03:07] <penguinboy> sigh
[03:08] <penguinboy> when you run bunzip2 Azureus_2.3.0.2_linux.GTK.tar.bz2 into turns in a tarball....do you then tar it?
[03:10] <penguinboy> yoo hoo
[03:12] <liz4rd> lol check this out penguinboy :P hold on
[03:12] <penguinboy> MONCHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:12] <penguinboy> MONCHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:12] <penguinboy> MONCHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:13] <monchy> hey lol
[03:13] <penguinboy> Monch....liz4rd is trying to send me internet porn of himself to me through jabber
[03:13] <penguinboy> you wanna see it 2???
[03:13] <liz4rd> its true
[03:13] <monchy> no, you enjoy
[03:13] <penguinboy> oh i will...i will...i will!!!!
[03:13] <monchy> so, whens the wedding?
[03:13] <penguinboy> next Tuesday....
[03:14] <monchy> congratulations
[03:14] <liz4rd> http://www.liz4rd.ath.cx/.imagedump/store/liz4rdandpenguinboy.gif
[03:14] <penguinboy> Liz4rd is gonna wear the dress and I am gonna wear the tux....I am the more manly of the two
[03:14] <penguinboy> LOL
[03:14] <penguinboy> LOL
[03:14] <penguinboy> LOL
[03:14] <liz4rd> no your just the penguin you fuckstick YOUR WAREING A TUX!!!
[03:14] <penguinboy> LOL
[03:14] <penguinboy> LOL
[03:14] <liz4rd> http://www.liz4rd.ath.cx/.imagedump/store/liz4rdandpenguinboy.gif
[03:14] <liz4rd> ^_^
[03:15] <penguinboy> www.seeliz4admanmakepenguinboyintoapenguinman.com
[03:17] <liz4rd> sproingie: hey baqby 2$ for all of me
[03:17] <penguinboy> hey hey sproingie 
[03:17] <penguinboy> 7 dolalrs for qll of me
[03:17] <liz4rd> your no compitition
[03:17] <monchy> i'd rather see michael jackson for 7 dollars
[03:17] <liz4rd> i got a lower rate
[03:18] <penguinboy> yes but I am bigger than you
[03:18] <liz4rd> what about me and penguinboy together?
[03:18] <penguinboy> 9 dollars
[03:18] <monchy> i'd hang myself ;)
[03:18] <penguinboy> LOL
[03:18] <penguinboy> LOL
[03:18] <penguinboy> LOL
[03:18] <liz4rd> monchy: http://www.liz4rd.ath.cx/.imagedump/store/liz4rdandpenguinboy.gif
[03:18] <monchy> i don't think so lol
[03:18] <liz4rd> did you see it?
[03:18] <monchy> no
[03:18] <monchy> i refuse to click on it :p
[03:18] <liz4rd> i'm hosting it fucking look at it
[03:19] <penguinboy> monchy is afraid of a wormm
[03:19] <penguinboy> or a virus
[03:20] <penguinboy> or a trojan
[03:20] <liz4rd> LMFAO
[03:20] <liz4rd> ONG LINUX?
[03:20] <transgress> because there are virii for linux
[03:20] <liz4rd> its a fucking .gif file
[03:20] <penguinboy> extra large size please
[03:20] <liz4rd> i dont get it
[03:20] <transgress> i think he's just being stubborn 
[03:20] <penguinboy> hey Kev
[03:20] <liz4rd> trangress did you see it?
[03:20] <transgress> yes
[03:20] <liz4rd> funny shit heh
[03:20] <liz4rd> :P
[03:21] <liz4rd> i'll get on msn and yell at monchy
[03:21] <monchy> why do i have to see it, i'm not part of your circus orgy :p
[03:21] <penguinboy> one of these days RastaMan and I are gonna run around buck nekkid in Fiji!!!
[03:21] <liz4rd> JUST FUCKING LOOK AT IT
[03:21] <liz4rd> :(
[03:21] <transgress> ssshhh
[03:21] <liz4rd> or els i shall releal your secerat
[03:21] <liz4rd> secrete
[03:21] <liz4rd> or w/e
[03:21] <transgress> try to cuss only every 5 remarks
[03:21] <liz4rd> how ever its spelled
[03:21] <penguinboy> what is Monch's secret?????????????
[03:22] <monchy> i'm your father
[03:22] <penguinboy> LOL
[03:22] <liz4rd> he's and an alcoholic
[03:22] <penguinboy> LOL
[03:22] <penguinboy> LOL
[03:22] <monchy> and an alcoholic
[03:22] <monchy> i beat him every day
[03:22] <transgress> that's what you meant the other night when you kept saying "Who's your daddy!?"
[03:22] <liz4rd> LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:22] <penguinboy> i am an alcolholic too..............
[03:22] <liz4rd> keiths a stoner
[03:22] <penguinboy> and one of them thare homosexuals
[03:22] <transgress> i don't put anything in my body that doesn't grow out of the ground
[03:22] <liz4rd> cant memberthe last time he was thinking clearly
[03:22] <monchy> who's keith
[03:23] <transgress> i haven't smoked a lot recently
[03:23] <liz4rd> transgress
[03:23] <penguinboy> RastaMan
[03:23] <transgress> me
[03:23] <monchy> oh lol
[03:23] <liz4rd> lol
[03:23] <liz4rd> and monchy is Chris
[03:23] <liz4rd> and i'm Chris too
[03:23] <monchy> no, i'm saddam husseins doppelganger
[03:23] <transgress> saturday night was the only time i've smoked in a good bit
[03:23] <penguinboy> I wanna run buck nekkid with RastaMan down the beaches of Fiji.....just a floppin' in the wind
[03:23] <transgress> so you're the evil saddam?  how odd.
[03:23] <monchy> no, i'm his doppelganger lol
[03:24] <transgress> well doppelgangers are evil copies of the original
[03:24] <penguinboy> i met a doppleganger once
[03:24] <liz4rd> mochy is ex comedian...can you tell he got kicked out of a comedy club?
[03:24] <transgress> i met a cross dressing prostitute once... 
[03:24] <monchy> how'd that go
[03:24] <penguinboy> i bet you were suprised
[03:24] <liz4rd> LMAO
[03:24] <liz4rd> he realized it was his mom
[03:24] <liz4rd> and dad
[03:24] <liz4rd> XD
[03:24] <transgress> i didn't really talk to her... i more of quickly crossed the street as she was trying to find customers
[03:25] <penguinboy> i don't like cross dressers...I like em to look real manly
[03:25] <liz4rd> bullshit you got "its" number
[03:25] <penguinboy> like liz4rd
[03:25] <liz4rd> ...
[03:25] <liz4rd> you did not just say that
[03:25] <transgress> eh if my mom were a cross dressing whore i'd just be happy about the fact that she got out of the house once in a while
[03:25] <liz4rd> lol
[03:25] <penguinboy> hey MoRpHe0 
[03:25] <transgress> hi MoRpHe0 what's up?
[03:25] <liz4rd> what if she came on to you?
[03:25] <MoRpHe0> hi to all
[03:26] <penguinboy> hey hey hey
[03:26] <transgress> liz4rd: eh?
[03:26] <liz4rd> MoRpHe0: hey baby 2$ for all of me
[03:26] <MoRpHe0> :S
[03:26] <liz4rd> 9$ for me AND penguinboy
[03:26] <penguinboy> keep your two dollars....I've had him...and he is not worth 75 cents.....
[03:26] <liz4rd> hey thast a low rate eh guys
[03:27] <liz4rd> penguinboy: just cuz you get me for free doesnt mean you can fuck with my cashflow
[03:27] <penguinboy> liz4rd giggles like a little girl during sex and it is really annoying
[03:27] <liz4rd> ...thast it
[03:27] <liz4rd> we're threw
[03:27] <penguinboy> lol
[03:27] <liz4rd> NO
[03:28] <liz4rd> ITS DONE
[03:28] <penguinboy> lol
[03:28] <liz4rd> I DONT WANNA SEE YOU AGIAN
[03:28] <liz4rd> :'(
[03:28] <penguinboy> sniff sniff sniff
[03:29] <doppleganger> hello
[03:29] <doppleganger> hello
[03:29] <anti-penguinboy> FUCK YOU
[03:29] <doppleganger> oh no i am stuck as a doppleganger
[03:29] <anti-penguinboy> WE'RE FIGHTING
[03:30] <PenguinBoy> i'm back!
[03:30] <anti-penguinboy> transgress: please tell penguinboy that i dont wanna talk to him
[03:30] <PenguinBoy> trangress please tell liz4rd that i still love him
[03:31] <anti-penguinboy> transgress: please tell fuckstick over there that he hurt my feelings
[03:31] <transgress> yeah umm no.
[03:31] <PenguinBoy> I'm sorry
[03:31] <anti-penguinboy> i hate you
[03:31] <PenguinBoy> i will never hurt your feelings again
[03:31] <anti-penguinboy> :(
[03:31] <PenguinBoy> i promise
[03:31] <anti-penguinboy> *sniff*
[03:32] <PenguinBoy> there there
[03:32] <PenguinBoy> don;t cry
[03:32] <PenguinBoy> do you still love me?
[03:32] <liz4rd> i'm here for casual sex theres no love involved
[03:32] <liz4rd> XD
[03:33] <PenguinBoy> i like casual sex
[03:33] <liz4rd> WELL I DONT
[03:33] <PenguinBoy> i especially like casual kinky sex
[03:33] <liz4rd> joey how old are you anyway ? :P
[03:34] <transgress> 25
[03:34] <liz4rd> LMFAO
[03:34] <liz4rd> i'm 16 YOU PETAFILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:34] <PenguinBoy> pedophile
[03:34] <liz4rd> thank you
[03:34] <PenguinBoy> LOL
[03:35] <PenguinBoy> your welcome
[03:35] <PenguinBoy> poor grammar is unexcusable
[03:35] <liz4rd> my bad
[03:35] <PenguinBoy> no prob
[03:35] <monchy> you guys are going to be stars on bash soon lol
[03:35] <PenguinBoy> pedophile from pedophelia
[03:36] <PenguinBoy> what is bash?
[03:36] <liz4rd> monchy: bash?
[03:36] <liz4rd> fuck that
[03:36] <liz4rd> irclikelife.com/oldsite
[03:36] <liz4rd> i'm ircbot_ and polorix
[03:36] <monchy> www.bash.org
[03:36] <liz4rd> go down and then to archives
[03:36] <liz4rd> its mine and transgress's project
[03:37] <monchy> what exactly is it
[03:37] <liz4rd> me and transgress
[03:37] <liz4rd> i'm polorix and ircbot_
[03:37] <liz4rd> its irc humor
[03:38] <liz4rd> or humor at all
[03:38] <monchy> oh ok
[03:38] <liz4rd> irclikelife.com/oldsite we're working on migrating to the new design
[03:38] <monchy> whats going on w/ your forum
[03:39] <liz4rd> mine?
[03:39] <PenguinBoy> they have been discussing things like foreskins...makes for interesting light readiung
[03:39] <liz4rd> http://datapirate.ath.cx?
[03:39] <monchy> yea that 1
[03:39] <liz4rd> nothying really
[03:39] <liz4rd> i need moe users
[03:39] <liz4rd> more
[03:40] <monchy> get your useless husband to help :p
[03:40] <liz4rd> fuck you man
[03:40] <liz4rd> :P
[03:40] <liz4rd> we're not marreyed yet
[03:40] <liz4rd> tuesday
[03:40] <monchy> it is tuesday
[03:41] <liz4rd> yes
[03:41] <monchy> i now pronounce you life partners
[03:41] <liz4rd> is it tuesday today?
[03:41] <monchy> yea
[03:41] <liz4rd> YOUR OUR FATHER PERSON GUY TO BEWED US
[03:41] <liz4rd> penguinboy!!!!!!!
[03:41] <monchy> lmao
[03:41] <liz4rd> we're getting marreyed
[03:42] <liz4rd> right now
[03:42] <liz4rd> monchys doing the ceramony
[03:42] <monchy> transgress can be the minister
[03:42] <monchy> i need a beer
[03:42] <liz4rd> ok
[03:42] <PenguinBoy> i am Lutheran
[03:42] <PenguinBoy> must be a Lutheran service
[03:42] <transgress> i am the leader of a cult... so i guess that's sort of like a minister
[03:42] <sproingie> and i'm spartacus!
[03:42] <liz4rd> trangress...wil lyou do the honors
[03:42] <PenguinBoy> we could get married Rasta style
[03:42] <liz4rd> OK
[03:42] <transgress> except i'm not actually rasta... 
[03:42] <liz4rd> start it up eith
[03:42] <PenguinBoy> and i wanna be nude 
[03:43] <liz4rd> keith
[03:43] <transgress> i'm more of a naturist
[03:43] <liz4rd> FUC KTHIS THEN
[03:43] <transgress> okay nude would work
[03:43] <liz4rd> sproingie: will you do the honors
[03:43] <PenguinBoy> i like being nude
[03:43] <liz4rd> ?
[03:43] <sproingie> oh wait that's the tear gas
[03:43] <liz4rd> FUCK MAN
[03:43] <liz4rd> be the minister
[03:43] <transgress> okay
[03:43] <transgress> but right now ima eat a peach
[03:43] <transgress> brb
[03:43] <PenguinBoy> liz4rd looks really cute in the nude
[03:43] <liz4rd> awe thx you too
[03:43] <PenguinBoy> thanks
[03:44] <liz4rd> sproingie: will you do the honors
[03:44] <sproingie> liz4rd: i should probably take the honors out on a date first
[03:44] <PenguinBoy> LOL
[03:44] <PenguinBoy> LOL
[03:44] <PenguinBoy> LOL
[03:44] <liz4rd> ...
[03:44] <PenguinBoy> is sproingie interested in a menage a trois????
[03:44] <liz4rd> will no one perform the ceramony?
[03:44] <monchy> transgress will
[03:44] <liz4rd> LMFAO XD
[03:45] <liz4rd> ok he'll be funny :)
[03:45] <liz4rd> i want the whole ido's and all
[03:45] <PenguinBoy> and nude
[03:45] <liz4rd> and nude
[03:45] <PenguinBoy> yes
[03:45] <PenguinBoy> nude is important
[03:45] <sproingie> oh ok.  we are gathered here together to bear false witness to the act of holy acrimony
[03:45] <PenguinBoy> LOL
[03:45] <sproingie> oh wait, i forgot dearly beloved
[03:45] <sproingie> oh wait, i hate you all
[03:45] <sproingie> where was i?
[03:45] <liz4rd> ...
[03:46] <liz4rd> you'v done this befor
[03:46] <sproingie> gathered here to witness.  who's getting hitched by the way?
[03:46] <liz4rd> me and penguinboy
[03:46] <PenguinBoy> i can;t wit for the honeymoon noght
[03:46] <sproingie> to witness the marriage of me and penguinboy
[03:46] <liz4rd> liz4rd you fuckstick
[03:46] <liz4rd> i wont pay you!
[03:46] <monchy> lol
[03:46] <PenguinBoy> take me liz4rd!
[03:47] <PenguinBoy> right here
[03:47] <liz4rd> wait we got to put the rings on and idos
[03:47] <PenguinBoy> right now
[03:47] <liz4rd> continue sproigie
[03:47] <sproingie> marriage is a blessed union, with exceptions here and there
[03:47] <PenguinBoy> lol
[03:47] <liz4rd> go on
[03:47] <sproingie> if anyone here has any reason why these two should not be joined, kindly sierra tango foxtrot uniform
[03:48] <PenguinBoy> lol
[03:48] <PenguinBoy> lol
[03:48] <liz4rd> no on objects!
[03:48] <liz4rd> one*
[03:48] <sproingie> very well then, having heard no objections, and all appeals having been exhausted
[03:49] <liz4rd> go on
[03:49] <sproingie> liz4rd you fuckstick, do you take PenguinBoy, who i shall not ask whether is oflegal age, to have and to hold, in delusion and drunkeness, til netsplit do you part?\
[03:50] <liz4rd> i do!!
[03:50] <liz4rd> look alive penguinboy
[03:50] <sproingie> PenguinBoy, do you take liz4rd you fuckstick to be your awfully wedded gender-indeterminate?
[03:51] <liz4rd> penguinboy!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:51] <PenguinBoy> i must defintely, unequivacably, without one little bitty witty doubt....DO!!!!
[03:51] <sproingie> then by the power of greyskull, i now pronounce you avian and reptile.  you may now beak the bride
[03:52] <PenguinBoy> kiss me my hunka hunka burnin love!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:52] <liz4rd> *kisses*
[03:53] <liz4rd> lol!!!!
[03:53] <liz4rd> YES
[03:53] <liz4rd> ITS FINAL
[03:53] <liz4rd> thanks sproingie
[03:53] <Mr_Liz4rd> take me here....take me now...right here in front of sproingie and moNCHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:53] <liz4rd> i copyed this all down so transgress see's
[03:53] <Mr_Liz4rd> LOL
[03:54] <Mr_Liz4rd> change you rnick to Mrs_Liz4rd
[03:54] <Mr_Liz4rd> lol
[03:54] <monchy> lol
[03:54] <Mrs_Liz4rd> i wanan bethe mr :(
[03:55] <monchy> now the entire world can shared you blessed union on bash.org
[03:55] <Mr_Liz4rd> i am the more manly of the two...plus...I am bigger than you are
[03:55] <sproingie> i should trust my first impressions
[03:55] <Mr_Liz4rd> lol
[03:55] <Mrs_Liz4rd> lol
[03:55] <Mrs_Liz4rd> sproingie: we shgould talk with transgress i would love for you to be on our project
[03:56] <Mr_Liz4rd> the project is a menage a troise sproingie
[03:56] <Mrs_Liz4rd> no
[03:56] <Mr_Liz4rd> si 
[03:56] <Mrs_Liz4rd> http://irclikelife.com/oldsite/
[03:56] <Mrs_Liz4rd> look down and then go to srchives
[03:56] <Mrs_Liz4rd> i'm polorix and ircbot_
[03:56] <Mrs_Liz4rd> lol
[03:57] <liz4rd> there
[03:57] <liz4rd> you stay as that
[03:57] <Senor_Liz4rd> Senora
[03:57] <sproingie> heh.  sure.
[03:57] <liz4rd> do you think you would do good :)
[03:57] <Senor_Liz4rd> ever been in a menage a trois before sproingie ????
[03:57] <liz4rd> and do you have jabber or msn or AIM?
[03:58] <sproingie> no and no and no and no ... as for your questions, the same
[03:58] <liz4rd> you just come on irc?
[03:59] <Senor_Liz4rd> lol
[03:59] <liz4rd> ...
[03:59] <liz4rd> Senor_Liz4rd: whens our hunnymoon?
[03:59] <Senor_Liz4rd> as soon as possible.....I am gettign my passprt ready
[04:00] <Senor_Liz4rd> is it cold in Canada?
[04:00] <liz4rd> no i'm fucking hot
[04:00] <Senor_Liz4rd> lol
[04:01] <monchy> i'll be back, don't go makin no babies while i'm gone
[04:02] <liz4rd> i cant promis anything
[04:02] <sproingie> i think lizards can reproduce asexually.  parthogenesis
[04:03] <liz4rd> lol
[04:03] <Senor_Liz4rd> lol
[04:03] <sproingie> don't even really need senor
[04:03] <liz4rd> sproingie: :O
[04:03] <Senor_Liz4rd> oh my
[04:07] <TTT_Travis|G3> can anyone here help me with this?    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=223005&posted=1#post223005
[04:07] <liz4rd> and what do chicks and KFC have in common?
[04:07] <liz4rd> You start with the breast - then go to the thigh then you're left with a greasy box to stick your bone i
[04:08] <liz4rd> in*
[04:08] <liz4rd> lol
[04:08] <sproingie> hmm, guess there weren't any
[04:13] <liz4rd> sbcl3: lol its me from AIM
[04:13] <liz4rd> digital0xploit
[04:14] <liz4rd> you we're wondering last time :P
[04:14] <unome> how do you open control center from cosole?
[04:16] <MyGhetek> how can i reinstall everything gtk?
[04:16] <MyGhetek> im just sick of all the gtk errors i always get
[04:17] <MyGhetek> sudo apt-get reinstall *gtk*
[04:17] <MyGhetek> why doesnt that work?
[04:17] <kalenedrael> because *gtk* doesn't mean what you want it to
[04:18] <kalenedrael> it means "everything in the current directory that contains "gtk""
[04:18] <kalenedrael> you want to reinstall everything gtk, hmm
[04:18] <MyGhetek> so how do i fix it?
[04:18] <kalenedrael> one moment
[04:18] <kalenedrael> apt-cache search gtk | cut -d\  -f1 | grep gtk | xargs sudo apt-get reinstall
 Did you hear about Ku Klux Knieval?
 no
 He tried to jump 50 niggers with a steamroller.
[04:19] <MyGhetek> cut: the delimiter must be a single character
[04:19] <kalenedrael> MyGhetek, are you *sure* you want to do this?
[04:20] <MyGhetek> ...
[04:20] <MyGhetek> i dont know... do i?
[04:20] <kalenedrael> (this actually installs everything that contains gtk in the package name)
[04:20] <kalenedrael> oh, and you need two spaces after the backslash
[04:20] <kalenedrael> it has to be "cut -d\  -f1" not "cut -d\ -f1"
[04:20] <MyGhetek> would it solve all my gtk errors that pop up with wine and winetools?
[04:21] <kalenedrael> dunno
[04:21] <kalenedrael> what are those errors?
[04:21] <MyGhetek> error: unexpected identifier `gtk-alternative-button-order', expected keyword - e.g. `style'
[04:21] <MyGhetek> i get that all the time
[04:22] <MyGhetek> i just have a lot of errors and its frusterating
[04:22] <MyGhetek> some times i try to launch apps and it says someting about display 0:0 and something regarding gtk and then it doesnt work
[04:23] <kalenedrael> hmm
[04:23] <MyGhetek> i will pastebin in a sec
[04:24] <MyGhetek> whoa... pastebin is dead
[04:24] <MyGhetek> may i flood?
[04:24] <MyGhetek> !flood
[04:24] <kalenedrael> no
[04:24] <kalenedrael> umm
[04:24] <MyGhetek> damn
[04:24] <kalenedrael> let's see
[04:24] <kalenedrael> try another pastebin?
[04:24] <liz4rd> pastebin.ca
[04:24] <liz4rd> CANADIAN STYLE
[04:24] <kalenedrael> http://sh.nu/p
[04:25] <MyGhetek> there we go
[04:25] <MyGhetek> http://sh.nu/p/314
[04:26] <MyGhetek> i mean... you cant get much more basic that that
[04:26] <kalenedrael> that's not a gtk error
[04:26] <MyGhetek> and i get soooo many errors
[04:26] <MyGhetek> it didnt happen that time
[04:26] <kalenedrael> did you "sudo su -"?
[04:26] <MyGhetek> i did su
[04:26] <kalenedrael> did you use sudo?
[04:26] <MyGhetek> no i used su
[04:26] <liz4rd> wtf
[04:27] <kalenedrael> you're trying to run an X program as root and it doesnt know how to open the display
[04:27] <MyGhetek> is that normal?
[04:27] <kalenedrael> yes
[04:28] <MyGhetek> every now and then my amarok crashes
[04:28] <MyGhetek> and i cant restart it
[04:28] <MyGhetek> there is just a million little errors that werent there like 2 weeks ago
[04:28] <kalenedrael> MyGhetek, if you want to run an X program as root, use kdesu or gksu
[04:30] <MyGhetek> i feel like reformatting but there must be an easier way
[04:30] <kalenedrael> hmm?
[04:30] <kalenedrael> hmm
[04:31] <kalenedrael> that is strange
[04:32] <MyGhetek> also i have a question what is the difference between dist-upgrade and upgrade?
[04:32] <kalenedrael> dist-upgrade upgrades the distro
[04:32] <philipacamaniac> dist-upgrade is used when upgrading major version numbers (you'll do it when you upgrade to Breezy)
[04:33] <kalenedrael> if you are running kubuntu 2.0, then dist-upgrade will give you 3.0
[04:33] <kalenedrael> IIRC
[04:34] <MyGhetek> http://sh.nu/p/315
[04:35] <MyGhetek> ive been doing dist upgrades. is that bad?
[04:37] <philipacamaniac> MyGhetek: what's your sources.list look like?
[04:37] <MyGhetek> nanoing
[04:39] <MyGhetek> http://sh.nu/p/316
[04:39] <MyGhetek> thats my sources.list
[04:39] <MyGhetek> gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -
[04:40] <MyGhetek> oops i mean... gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 && gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -
[04:42] <philipacamaniac> eeeeep you have marillat sarge, sid and etch enabled
[04:42] <MyGhetek> bad?
[04:42] <philipacamaniac> those all are different distro releases for debian... not recommended
[04:43] <MyGhetek> damn!
[04:43] <MyGhetek> fixable?
[04:43] <liz4rd> i wanna try a diff linux
[04:43] <philipacamaniac> err, I think so
[04:44] <MyGhetek> liz4rd: try ubuntu. its like kubuntu but with less cool stuff
[04:44] <liz4rd> i have already tryed out kubuntu and ubuntu i like them both and will probly come back to it but i got 2 blanks and i dont know what one to burn
[04:44] <philipacamaniac> libavcodeccvs is what you are trying to get?
[04:44] <liz4rd> MyGhetek: :P
[04:44] <MyGhetek> i just dont want to have broken dependencies
[04:44] <MyGhetek> i hrad that its a bad thing
[04:46] <MyGhetek> liz4rd: mepis?
[04:46] <MyGhetek> windows xp and topilogilinux?
[04:46] <liz4rd> i need something thats fast and has alot of packages i can install
[04:46] <MyGhetek> hehe
[04:46] <MyGhetek> topilogilinux
[05:03] <MyGhetek> is there an apt-get parameter to always download suggested packages?
[05:04] <MyGhetek> i cant find one
[05:04] <cartel_> #ubuntu guys didnt get it
[05:04] <cartel_> http://fun.sdinet.de/pics/3ubuntu.jpg
[05:08] <MyGhetek> i wish i had extra time in the day to do stuff like that
[05:08] <MyGhetek> im too busy all the time
[05:11] <TTT_Travis|G3> can anyone here help me with this?    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=223005&posted=1#post223005
[05:23] <liz4rd> hey monchy
[05:23] <liz4rd> i got 2 blank cds now :P
[05:23] <monchy> sweet
[05:23] <liz4rd> not sure what els to do
[05:23] <monchy> well don't waste them on music or anything
[05:23] <liz4rd> cuz the whole debian sarge having xfree86 discurages me
[05:24] <liz4rd> i wont
[05:24] <liz4rd> i'm looking for another distro to try out
[05:24] <monchy> fedora
[05:25] <liz4rd> i'm on there site right now :P
[05:25] <liz4rd> but only got 2 cd
[05:25] <monchy> just do a net install
[05:25] <monchy> no way i'd waste 4 cds on core 4 lol
[05:26] <liz4rd> lol
[05:26] <liz4rd> mmmmm i need something fast :(
[05:26] <liz4rd> kubuntu is fast....but
[05:26] <liz4rd> and i like debians packaging system
[05:26] <liz4rd> but i dont like how it hates fluxbox and blackbox
[05:26] <liz4rd> :P
[05:27] <monchy> well theres xfce + sarge but you hate xfree :p
[05:27] <liz4rd> :P yeah
[05:31] <transgress> i used 1 dvd for FC4 heh... burning 4 cd's is way too much effort
[05:31] <transgress> fc4 isn't at all bad though.  
[05:32] <monchy> is it me or are the fonts smoother
[05:32] <transgress> were the mem leaks ever fixed in xfree?  because if not then i can understand worrying about it... but if they were then you could go with sarge and not notice a difference
[05:34] <monchy> i don't know, looking for changelogs
[05:34] <transgress> i know running flux on DSL would eventually eat up the ram, crash, and i could restart x... take about 3 days to eat my 32 megs up heh
[05:40] <monchy> "- deal with small memory leaks" 1003 in the XFree86 4.3 changelog
[05:44] <transgress> omg it's been too long since i custom compiled a kernel
[05:49] <monchy> K7 kernel for athlon xp users? or 686?
[05:56] <kalon> is it posible to make windows open in new windows. instead of single view? I have tryed the usual kde setting.
[06:35] <verden01> hey
[07:03] <yoda> saludos
[07:04] <yoda> como se cambia la reolucion de pantalla por konsole
[07:10] <TTT_Travis|G3> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25722&page=1&pp=10
[07:20] <unome> how do you open control center from cosole?
[07:23] <thoreauputic> unome: `kcontrol`
[07:23] <unome> thanks mate
[07:23] <thoreauputic> np
[07:25] <yoda> how can i  modify the grub, so i can add or remove some O.S.
[07:25] <yoda> ?
[07:27] <unome> http://ubuntuguide.org/#addwindowsentrygrubmenu
[07:28] <yoda> thx
[07:30] <yoda> great!!
[07:30] <yoda> hey, how i can modify the resolution of my screen in the konsole??
[07:30] <yoda> *can i
[07:34] <unome> good question, I'd like to find out as well
[07:35] <yoda> hahaha
[07:37] <unome> the only kde app I dont use is konsole, the thing is huge
[07:41] <yoda> how can i use graphic lilo 
[07:42] <yoda> * group
[07:42] <yoda> ?
[09:03] <sealion> I'm having trouble building kernel module packages for kernel 2.4.12 using module-assistant or make-kpkg.  The build is failing with "cc1: Unrecognized option ...", which seems to indicate to me that gcc 3.3 is being used to compile--the unrecognized options are 3.4 options.
[09:12] <sealion> This is cute.  It looks like module-assistant and make-kpkg (cause make to) ignore the CC definition in the kernel makefiles, and so the default compiler (3.3, in this case) gets used instead.
[09:13] <sealion> At least for half of the compile.... although the bad compiler flags shouldn't have even been passed unless gcc-3.4 was being used for at least part of the make process.
[10:11] <unome> guys, anyone using konversation?
[10:11] <mazinga> y me
[10:11] <unome> I'm trying tp upgrade but:
[10:11] <unome> konversation: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.1) but 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3.2 is to be installed
[10:11] <mazinga> i had same error!
[10:12] <unome> and?
[10:12] <unome> fixed it?
[10:12] <mazinga> just download synaptic and it wil solve your problems
[10:12] <unome> I have synaptic
[10:12] <mazinga> do a smart upgrade with it
[10:12] <unome> but i dont wanna mess with libs
[10:12] <mazinga> did u try smart upgr?
[10:12] <unome> I tried
[10:12] <mazinga> hmmm
[10:12] <unome> yes
[10:13] <mazinga> i'll tell u in 30secs
[10:13] <unome> synaptic says same thing
[10:14] <unome> konversation:
[10:14] <unome>   Depends: kdelibs4 (>=4:3.4.1) but 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3.2 is to be installed
[10:14] <mazinga> Upgraded the following packages:
[10:14] <mazinga> kdelibs-data (4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3) to 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3.2
[10:15] <mazinga> thats what synaptic did 
[10:15] <KaiL> apt-get -f install
[10:15] <mazinga> u sure u have synapti and not kynaptic?
[10:15] <unome> force?
[10:15] <unome> yeah synaptic
[10:15] <unome> I dont use kynaptic
[10:15] <mazinga> kk
[10:16] <unome> -f will force install despite libs conflict dude
[10:16] <mazinga> do an update then try smart?
[10:17] <mazinga> u tried it?
[10:18] <unome> yep same sh*t
[10:18] <mazinga> hmm
[10:18] <unome> thanks for trying mate ... there are no security updates so I care less ;)
[10:19] <mazinga> kk dude
[11:01] <Linatux> hi
[11:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[11:02] <Linatux> quiet evening?
[11:04] <Linatux> only 3, no 15, no 48, no 5 minutes to go =)
[11:30] <liz4rd> well....fresh install og kubuntu
[11:30] <liz4rd> of
[11:32] <KaiL> there comes koffice 1.4 :)
[11:32] <KaiL> Riddell: no kexi in breezy?
[11:33] <liz4rd> kubuntu doesnt come with synaptic or how ever you spell it does it?
[11:33] <KaiL> liz4rd: it has kynaptic for this job (which is not that complete)
[11:33] <liz4rd> thought so
[11:36] <KaiL> Riddell: and krita has no icon
[11:42] <Riddell> KaiL: Krita Designer has no icon, but then again neither does KOffice shell
[11:43] <Riddell> KaiL: more up to date versions of kexi are being released separately so they're being packaged separately
[11:43] <KaiL> krita has not even an menu entry here :(
[11:44] <Riddell> oh wait, it's kugar without an icon, krita does fine
[11:45] <KaiL> kugar also without menu entry
[11:54] <Skaag> i can't find krita...
[11:54] <Skaag> (the package)
[11:55] <KaiL> breezy or hoary?
[11:57] <Riddell> KaiL: do you have /usr/share/applnk/Office/krita.desktop ?
[11:58] <KaiL> yes
[12:28] <srobin> hi
[12:28] <srobin> got a question
[12:29] <srobin> i'm having a temporary ntfs (sda5)
[12:29] <srobin> with my music on
[12:29] <srobin> how can i play this in amaroK?
[12:29] <srobin> already did this: root@Kubuntu:/mnt/windows # mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -o user,ro,noatime
[01:13] <Firetech> Riddell: I can't see any images in .doc files with the new KWord (I don't know if I could that with the old version though...) KWord also complains when I try to open OO.o2 .odt files and says that they aren't following OASIS standard...
[01:14] <Riddell> Firetech: openoffice doesn't follow the OASIS standard yet
[01:15] <Firetech> ah... :S
[01:24] <Firetech> Riddell: Should I be able to see images in .doc files then?
[01:24] <Riddell> Firetech: I'm not sure
[01:30] <Chameleon22> hello ladies
[01:32] <ksb> How do I assign a shortcut for switching virtual desktops
[01:34] <kalenedrael> open up the control panel
[01:34] <kalenedrael> control center, whatever
[01:34] <Chameleon22> right click on panel->panel menu -> add to panel -> applet -> desktop preview and pager
[01:35] <kalenedrael> no, you have to go to regional & accessibility -> keyboard shortcuts
[01:35] <ksb> ta
[01:37] <ksb> superb, works a treat, thanks
[01:37] <Chameleon22> np
[01:37] <ksb> well thanks to kalenedrael ;)
[01:38] <Chameleon22> bah
[01:38] <ksb> Chameleon22: not that I don't appreciate your unique input ;)
[01:39] <Chameleon22> well what i said is how to add a desktop applet to panel that i thought you asked for ... no need to be sarcastic
[01:42] <ksb> I'm just being playfull matey
[02:07] <microhaxo> guys, how do i connect to a ftp server using SECURE connection?
[02:14] <kalenedrael> sftp
[02:21] <Tm_T> err
[02:28] <lexhider> where do I report bugs for kubuntu?
[02:29] <Tm_T> oh, good question
[02:35] <Riddell> lexhider: bugzilla.ubuntu.com normally
[02:35] <Riddell> lexhider: what's up?
[02:35] <lexhider> trivial thing with kdegraphics
[02:36] <lexhider> the description says it includes kdvi but neither depends/recommends/suggest the kdvi package
[02:36] <Tm_T> Riddell: hmm, do you know what nick Daniel Robitaille use?
[02:39] <Riddell> Tm_T: never heard of him
[02:40] <Tm_T> hmh
[02:40] <Tm_T> have blogged in Planet Ubuntu
[02:41] <Tm_T> and I have something to tell
[02:41] <Tm_T> but can't comment his blog without some sign in or something
[02:47] <lexhider> Riddell: should I file a bug?
[02:47] <lexhider> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DanielRobitaille
[02:47] <lexhider> email address is there
[02:49] <Riddell> lexhider: that's been fixed in breezy so no need to file
[02:51] <Tm_T> lexhider: oh, thank you
[02:51] <Tm_T> aah, there's nick too :p
[03:03] <mindspin> I have kontrol panel set to show date and time, but it shows only time and timezone, any idea ?
[03:04] <kalenedrael> yeah, set it to show the local timezone
[03:04] <kalenedrael> right-click on the clock, go to show timezone -> local timezone
[03:05] <mindspin> haha
[03:05] <mindspin> the settings are correct
[03:05] <mindspin> but it shows wrong
[03:05] <mindspin> I want date to be shown
[03:06] <kalenedrael> yes, what timezone does it say?
[03:06] <mindspin> Europe/Berlin 
[03:06] <kalenedrael> fine, go to configure clock, click the "Date" checkbox in the "Display" category
[03:07] <kalenedrael> ...unless you've already done that
[03:07] <mindspin> I already have done this
[03:07] <mindspin> the settings are correct
[03:07] <mindspin> but it doesnt show date
[03:07] <kalenedrael> ok, then right-click on the clock, go to show timezone -> local timezone... make sure
[03:08] <kalenedrael> don't select "Europe/Berlin", select "Local Timezone" :P
[03:08] <mindspin> ok I'll have a look
[03:08] <mindspin> hey cool
[03:08] <mindspin> thanks alot
[03:08] <kalenedrael> yep
[03:09] <mindspin> it changed after upgrading  kde 
[03:09] <kalenedrael> oh
[03:10] <mindspin> and I know my timeszone , so there's no need to show it ;-)
[03:10] <mindspin> but i regulary forget the date ;-)
[03:11] <mindspin> bad english
[03:11] <kalenedrael> heh
[03:11] <mindspin> regulary
[03:12] <kalenedrael> yeah, i have that problem too...
[03:12] <fromoze> hi, I wanted to ask if someone is using kubuntu amd64 breezy. It's usable? 
[03:12] <kalenedrael> probably
[03:12] <kalenedrael> i'm using hoary
[03:12] <kalenedrael> on amd64
[03:12] <mindspin> breezy is not recommended btw.
[03:13] <fromoze> okis
[03:14] <fromoze> I just wanted to know it about if it's considered alpha o beta :)
[03:14] <fromoze> may be breezy started to need middle-average user to test :)
[03:16] <KaiL> fromoze: still alpha
[03:17] <fromoze> ok, thanks. 
[03:19] <KaiL> I guess, there will be another test-CD, when the package list are clean at least
[03:40] <dalbirdy> can anyone tell me how to allow root login on kde?
[03:42] <hussam> dalbirdy: edit this file /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[03:42] <dalbirdy> thanks
[03:42] <hussam> dalbirdy: add AllowRootLogin=true
[03:42] <hussam> dalbirdy: in that file
[03:44] <dalbirdy> hussam, at the bottom of the file?
[03:46] <hussam> dalbirdy: under a section called [X-*-Core]  at top of file
[03:46] <dalbirdy> yep i found it thanks
[03:47] <dalbirdy> do i need to restart to get this to take?
[03:48] <dalbirdy> never mind i got it...thanks
[03:50] <dalbirdy> can you tell me how to upgrade openoffice to 2.o beta?
[04:01] <Tm_T> \sh: uh oh!
[04:01] <dbfoster> sudo apt-get install  openoffice.org2
[04:01] <\sh> Tm_T: uh oh why not ih ah?
[04:01] <Tm_T> \sh: yikes! 2.6.12 .... when we have packages for it? :)
[04:02] <\sh> 2.6.12? give me a clue of what 2.6.12?
[04:02] <Tm_T> kernel
[04:02] <\sh> don't ask me, i'm too far away from the kernel...and this is good :)
[04:02] <Tm_T> heh
[04:03] <Tm_T> and who's the one who knows about it?
[04:05] <benJIman> lo all
[04:05] <Tm_T> yup
[04:05] <benJIman> anyone know if there's a howto anywhere for extracting the livecd to hard disk for modifying?
[04:25] <chx> I have a hard disk on the USB port. later, this will become /dev/hda . How should I install grub on it?
[04:27] <Tm_T> mabu: oh nice
[04:27] <jbroome> nothing i love more than auto-away messages (in two channels i'm in)
[04:27] <Tm_T> jbroome: in three :/
[04:27] <Tm_T> and colours!
[04:28] <jbroome> i think that deserves a kick!
[04:29] <Tm_T> not yet, but if he continues it, it's spamming -> kick
[04:29] <Tm_T> but hey, I'm just old fart, don't care about my opinions
[04:35] <Riddell> mabu: turn off your auto-away please or you will indeed be booted oot
[04:35] <Tm_T> Riddell <3
[04:36] <Tm_T> Riddell: you have any idea about 2.6.12 kernel packages?
[04:37] <Riddell> Tm_T: they were being talked about yesterday, no idea on the status.  something you need?
[04:41] <uniq> the closest you get is the 2.6.12 package in breezy.. it's morel ike 2.6.11.94-1.2 or something ... rc6 i guess.
[04:42] <uniq> if you are patient you can wait for the real 2.6.12.. think it'll be ready in a few days. as riddell says.. there was some talking about it yesterday.
[04:43] <Tm_T> Riddell: no, just general discussion in #ubuntu.fi@IRCnet
[04:43] <Tm_T> uniq: I'm very patient ;)
[05:04] <wizzard> hi guys, how can I downgrade my existing packages using apt-get when I removed some sources?
[05:05] <sproingie> aptitude lets you pick specific versions
[05:05] <sproingie> don't know that there's any way to globally downgrade
[05:07] <wizzard> just removed tha hoary-extras repository and some packages are local or absolete
[05:08] <wizzard> can I remove the packages without dependency check?
[05:09] <sproingie> if aptitude tries to remove any other packages when you do, you can put them back before committing the change
[05:10] <sproingie> or you can just try apt-get remove, which is usually a little less aggressive
[05:10] <uniq> you can a
[05:10] <uniq> lso use apt-get install package=version
[05:10] <sproingie> or use dpkg directly even
[05:11] <uniq> or if you add hoary-extras you can use apt-pinning.
[05:11] <uniq> and remove all packages from that source.
[05:11] <sproingie> i never figured out how to use pinning
[05:11] <uniq> remove/downgrade.
[05:11] <uniq> it's easy.
[05:11] <uniq> what's the mirror you use for hoary-extras? 
[05:11] <sproingie> i don't use it right now (where is it BTW?)
[05:11] <wizzard> I used something like mirrorservice
[05:12] <sproingie> usually when i need something, i just add a repo to sources.list, update, grab it, then comment the source back out
[05:12] <wizzard> but then you have a mess with the versions
[05:12] <uniq> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[05:12] <uniq> let's say you use this one.
[05:13] <wizzard> maybe
[05:13] <uniq> make /etc/apt/preferences and put three lines in it.
[05:13] <uniq> Package: *
[05:13] <uniq> Pin: origin ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net
[05:13] <uniq> Pin-Priority: 10
[05:14] <wizzard> btw, it is possible to find that hoary-extras on normal server?
[05:14] <uniq> hoary-extras is part of the backports project. unofficial.
[05:15] <sproingie> uniq: and that will prevent anything in backports from installing if it's shadowed by anything else in the official repos?
[05:15] <wizzard> I just wonder that backports packages are available everywhere
[05:15] <sproingie> uniq: including older versions?
[05:16] <uniq> sproingie: that will prevent anything from backports being installed if a package with the same name exist somewhere else.
[05:16] <sproingie> excellent.  do i need to pin the official repos with a higher priority, or do they default to some higher value?
[05:17] <uniq> depends.. if you want to replace the backport packages with the official ones you'll need to add the official repo with priority over 1000.. and do a dist-upgrade.
[05:19] <sproingie> i haven't used any backports
[05:19] <uniq> backports/extras/whatever.
[05:19] <sproingie> it looks like there are no amd64 packages anyway
[05:26] <sproingie> got a redhat box at work with 64 and 32 bit packages.  yum is the only option
[05:43] <wizzard> does anybody know some fast server with hoary-extras?
[05:46] <uniq> isn't acm.cs.umn.edu fast? 
[05:46] <uniq> http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php
[05:48] <wizzard> it seems to be fast :p
[05:48] <uniq> .edu often is.
[05:59] <hussam> Riddell: I'm getting a crash in kicker when logging out of KDE 3.4.1 . here is the stack trace: http://pastebin.com/302528
[05:59] <apokryphos> Hi guys. Is there something wrong with the current kdelibs package? All KDE programs are crashing, and on trying to update kdelibs I get unmet dependencies
[06:00] <pussfeller> anybody know how you get schat to connect to those fserves which have +59 or whatever dcc port
[06:00] <pussfeller> err xchat
[06:01] <Riddell> hussam: nasty.  report it to bugzilla.ubuntu.com please
[06:03] <apokryphos> pussfeller: you're more likely to have luck with that Q in #ubuntu
[06:17] <hussam> Riddell: I submitted bug 12096. https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12096
[06:18] <Riddell> hussam: thanks
[06:34] <morten> Can you download a kde version of breezy badger (or whatever the next ubuntu is called )
[06:35] <uniq> can you explain what you want? 
[06:37] <morten> ... hehe...
[06:37] <morten> erhm, not really...
[06:37] <morten> Just bored.. so I was wondering if I could find something to install
[06:37] <Tm_T> morten: and you have 3.4.1 installed?
[06:37] <morten> Nope...
[06:38] <morten> Ahh well, Going to play some Beach Volley.... afk!
[06:42] <Tm_T> morten: install it then ;)
[06:45] <nata> hi
[08:49] <yourghetek> ftp://ftp.oregonstate.edu/pub/kde/stable/koffice-1.4/kubuntu/dists/
[08:49] <yourghetek> how do i add that to my sources.list?
[08:50] <philipacamaniac> deb ftp://ftp.oregonstate.edu/pub/kde/stable/koffice-1.4/kubuntu/dists/ hoary-updates main
[08:56] <yourghetek> thanks
[09:00] <d> Hi!
[09:00] <Firetech> yourghetek: you could also check http://kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice-14.php (as said in the topic) for instructions.
[09:01] <yourghetek> but i really want kexi
[09:01] <Tm_T> yourghetek: then compile from svn :p
[09:01] <Tm_T> that's how I do it
[09:02] <d> I tried updating to KDE 3.4.1 using the above repo. but it failed to install (kdelibs) - what is the correct way to do this? What needs to be uninstalled first, if anything, then install what exactly
[09:02] <philipacamaniac> Tm_T: I hope you're joking
[09:02] <Tm_T> philipacamaniac: why would I?
[09:02] <liz4rd> dammit whats a2ps? and where can i get it
[09:02] <d> I don't think I've ever successfully upgraded KDE with apt yet come to think of it
[09:02] <Tm_T> d: nothing (?) need to be uninstalled
[09:03] <Tm_T> d: what was the error?
[09:03] <d> Tm- so it's just apt-get install xxx???
[09:03] <Tm_T> apt-get upgrade :p
[09:03] <Tm_T> that's how it worked here
[09:03] <d> SURELY I can't install a new KDE whilst I'm running a previous version?
[09:03] <Tm_T> d: you can
[09:04] <philipacamaniac> just logout->login once you're done
[09:04] <Tm_T> yup
[09:04] <d> dead easy huh?
[09:04] <uniq> liz4rd: a2ps is a 'anything to postscript converter' apt-get :)
[09:04] <Tm_T> philipacamaniac: why not compile svn?
[09:04] <philipacamaniac> it ain't like that *other* os
[09:04] <d> i'll try it now!
[09:04] <Tm_T> philipacamaniac: haha
[09:04] <uniq> liz4rd: it's in universe.
[09:05] <liz4rd> it wont apt-get
[09:05] <yourghetek> whoa. i got a lot of broken packages.
[09:05] <Tm_T> yourghetek: ok, share with us
[09:06] <yourghetek> http://pastebin.com/302607
[09:06] <philipacamaniac> Tm_T: are you running KOffice from SVN, or all of KDE?
[09:06] <Tm_T> philipacamaniac: Koffice 1.4 branch
[09:06] <uniq> liz4rd: put your sources.list on http://kubuntu.pastebin.com and i'll look at it.
[09:06] <Tm_T> and sometimes trunk if it compiles :p
[09:06] <Tm_T> philipacamaniac: and yes, it mostly works
[09:06] <philipacamaniac> Tm_T: that's what I was wondering about :)
[09:07] <Tm_T> heh
[09:07] <Tm_T> philipacamaniac: what's the problem?
[09:07] <Tm_T> is it Kexi?
[09:07] <Tm_T> works here o/
[09:08] <yourghetek> haha it would be easier to use wine on the windows version of kexi in kubuntu?
[09:08] <philipacamaniac> Tm_T:  I don't have a problem, if you're asking me... I just wondering about you running KDE SVN
[09:08] <Tm_T> ah, no
[09:08] <Tm_T> too much compiling =)
[09:08] <liz4rd> uniq: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/302610
[09:08] <Tm_T> and no need to
[09:08] <liz4rd> i'm on a fresh install
[09:09] <liz4rd> i havnt yet added repos to it 
[09:09] <liz4rd> i dont know what ones to add...
[09:09] <philipacamaniac> yourghtek, you should install the koffice packages from topic, and the compile kexi from source
[09:09] <uniq> liz4rd: remove the '#' on line 19 and 20.
[09:09] <uniq> apt-get update and apt-get install a2ps
[09:09] <philipacamaniac> Tm_T: that's what you recommended in the first place, isn't it;)
[09:09] <d> Hmm, so I did an 'apt-get upgrade' but I can see it's fetching some KDE 3.4.0 packages, no 3.4.1 in sight. What could be going wrong??
[09:10] <buz> did you add the repository?
[09:10] <Tm_T> philipacamaniac: no, just Koffice from svn
[09:10] <liz4rd> those are the last 2 lines right :P
[09:10] <Tm_T> philipacamaniac: but only if you use svn anyway, like me =)
[09:10] <yourghetek> koffice from package as in manually download and install some deb file? or apt-get install koffice?
[09:10] <uniq> liz4rd: no. but i'd recommend removing the # for those too.
[09:10] <Tm_T> philipacamaniac: I use Koffice, kdepim, amaroK and several others from svn
[09:11] <d> is this a pinning problem??
[09:11] <uniq> liz4rd: the two last lines.. and the two above the ones without the # infront.
[09:11] <liz4rd> alright
[09:12] <uniq> liz4rd: if you take a look at the pastebin url.. you'll see the linenumbers.
[09:12] <Tm_T> d: you updated package database? apt-get update
[09:12] <philipacamaniac> Tm_T: hmm, I think I'll choose stability....
[09:12] <liz4rd> ah ok
[09:12] <philipacamaniac> Tm_T: although amaroK sounds tasty
[09:12] <Tm_T> philipacamaniac: heh, no stability problems here :)
[09:12] <Tm_T> philipacamaniac: and amaroK is more stable from svn imho
[09:12] <philipacamaniac> Tm_T: did you make debs?
[09:13] <Tm_T> I update it too many times every day
[09:13] <Tm_T> nope
[09:13] <bisley> bisley@sprocket:~$ krita
[09:13] <bisley> koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: Couldn't find the native MimeType in krita's desktop file. Check your installation !
[09:13] <bisley> hmm
[09:13] <Tm_T> oh!
[09:13] <Tm_T> bisley: #koffice might help, dunno
[09:14] <philipacamaniac> Tm_T: about what MB size are you downloading everyday? (starting to get interested, but WiFi is slow)
[09:14] <Tm_T> philipacamaniac: well, less than 50Mt I think
[09:14] <Tm_T> mostly updates are really small
[09:15] <d> strange- I seem to have KDE 3.4.1 libs installed but 3.4.0 kdebase! Easiest way to 3.4.1 please someone!
[09:15] <Tm_T> eh?
[09:15] <philipacamaniac> Tm_T: so you checkout code from SVN, configure, make, make install?
[09:16] <d> as i said, i've already tried and failed to upgrade kde, doing apt-get upgrade kdelibs, kdebase etc.
[09:16] <philipacamaniac> d: did you try apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:17] <uniq> philipacamaniac: you can install kde from cvs to /opt or something.. easier to not mess with dpkgs files.
[09:17] <uniq> or koffice or whatever :)
[09:17] <Tm_T> philipacamaniac: almost yes
[09:17] <Tm_T> wait a second...
[09:18] <uniq> d: did you add: ' deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main' to /etc/apt/sources.list ? 
[09:22] <yourghetek> crashing.!
[09:26] <d> uniq: yes
[09:27] <uniq> d: did you do 'sudo apt-get update' from the commandline? 
[09:28] <d> i'm doing an apt-get upgrade right now
[09:28] <d> not update!
[09:29] <d> nah! couuldn't have
[09:29] <d> I'll be back to let you know- it'll be downloaded 4 another 25 m,ins or so I think!
[09:29] <d> downloading
[09:30] <uniq> d: stop the upgrade.. and do the apt-get update first.
[09:30] <uniq> ctrl+c
[09:30] <d> uniq: did that already
[09:30] <d> upgraded
[09:30] <uniq> apt-get update;apt-get upgrade
[09:30] <uniq> the question is did you do the update ? 
[09:30] <d> yes
[09:30] <uniq> ok.. good :)
[09:31] <d> :p
[09:31] <d> Can't wait for KDE 4!
[09:40] <philipacamaniac> aseigo_home: how's plasma coming along?
[09:40] <_morten> Backie.... 
[09:41] <buz> is the pdf import in kword 1.4 some sort of sick joke?
[09:43] <philipacamaniac> buz: still experimental
[09:44] <buz> i thought it was experimental in 1.3 already
[09:44] <buz> still isn't worth anything
[09:44] <philipacamaniac> buz: from the 1.4 changelog, I don't see any work on the PDF filter
[09:45] <buz> better not include the thing
[09:45] <buz> makes for bad press
[09:45] <philipacamaniac> many of the KOffice filters aren't perfect (IMHO)
[09:46] <buz> mhh .doc isn't worth much, either
[09:47] <buz> personally, i think koffice should rather do a qt frontend for openoffice
[09:47] <philipacamaniac> which is what I was referring to... also try .ppt
[09:47] <buz> mhh ppt isnt very well supported in oo either
[09:47] <buz> tends to be fucking slow
[09:47] <philipacamaniac> true
[09:48] <philipacamaniac> For KDE OOo, see: http://kde.openoffice.org
[09:48] <philipacamaniac> seems behind the times, but kendy is working hard to make OOo2 fully (mostly) integrated
[09:49] <buz> is there an oo2 kde plugin for kubuntu
[09:49] <philipacamaniac> using it
[09:49] <buz> (a more recent one than .79 i mean
[09:49] <philipacamaniac> I just wish it would use the KDE spellchecker instead of myspell
[09:49] <Gombeni> I just entered ere to ask about OO2-kde
[09:50] <buz> lol
[09:50] <buz> perfect timing
[09:50] <Gombeni> yep
[09:50] <buz> personally, i'm currently using m104 installed with rmp2cpio
[09:50] <Gombeni> do I need breezy to get i?
[09:50] <buz> but that doesn't really use kde
[09:50] <buz> stay away from breezy i recommend
[09:50] <buz> its nowhere like ready
[09:50] <Gombeni> ok
[09:50] <Gombeni> :)
[09:50] <Gombeni> so where to get oo2-kde?
[09:51] <philipacamaniac> OOo2 is available in Hoary universe, with kde dialogues and buttons
[09:51] <buz> yeah but's it's OOOOLD
[09:51] <Gombeni> oops!
[09:51] <buz> m79 is seriously buggy
[09:51] <philipacamaniac> okay, so has the breezy one been backported?
[09:51] <buz> m104 is where its at ;)
[09:51] <Gombeni> so, is there newer ones?
[09:51] <buz> m104 is current
[09:51] <buz> but its a pain to install
[09:52] <buz> as there are no debs from what i know
[09:52] <Gombeni> ready for pain :D
[09:52] <buz> mhh get the rpm
[09:52] <philipacamaniac> you mean from 220MB of source?? yeah, its hard
[09:52] <buz> and read about rpm2cpio ;)
[09:52] <buz> nah you can use the rpm
[09:52] <buz> the source is WAY too much pain :)
[09:52] <Gombeni> alien?
[09:52] <buz> not sure
[09:52] <buz> i head alien doesn't work
[09:52] <buz> besides i don't trust the thin
[09:52] <buz> thing
[09:53] <philipacamaniac> rpm2cpio vs. alien? difference?
[09:53] <buz> rpm2cpio mostly just extracts the files from the rpm
[09:53] <buz> which is just what you want for oo2
[09:53] <buz> na that's overstating it
[09:53] <philipacamaniac> any other work involved?
[09:54] <buz> you can feed the output to cpio and then create files of it ;)
[09:54] <Gombeni> have you tried the suse one? 
[09:54] <buz> suse=evil
[09:54] <Gombeni> alright then :)
[09:54] <philipacamaniac> hey now... I may agree, but hey now ;)
[09:54] <buz> give me a few minutes, i'll go dig out the correct commands
[09:56] <Gombeni> I am going to compile it from source. will I be screwed?
[09:57] <buz> you will need a LOOOOT of time
[09:57] <buz> i think oo is one of the worst things ever to compile yourself
[09:58] <buz> installing from the rpm is relatively painless
[09:58] <buz> but i need to download it first 
[09:58] <buz> gonna take a few minutes even at 2mbit ;)
[10:01] <Tm_T> hmm
[10:03] <philipacamaniac> Tm_Tr: quick question, are you Finnish?
[10:04] <philipacamaniac> or TM_TK
[10:06] <buz> Gombeni: use  
[10:06] <buz> rpm2cpio nameof rpm |cpio -ivd "*" 
[10:06] <buz> for each rpm
[10:06] <Gombeni> thanks. let's try
[10:06] <buz> if you want to save yourself the pain of compiling it
[10:06] <buz> must be possible to do it with xargs somehow
[10:06] <Gombeni> thanks :)
[10:06] <buz> any xargs wizards here?
[10:07] <philipacamaniac> how is it that m79 is still in breezy?
[10:07] <buz> who knows
[10:07] <buz> probably to painful to create debs
[10:07] <philipacamaniac> isn't the feature freeze in july
[10:08] <philipacamaniac> maybe OOo has to be last, since it is evil
[10:08] <Tm_Tr> philipacamaniac: yes
[10:08] <philipacamaniac> Tm_Tr: I can't remember if I mentioned this before, but I'm teaching a Finnish foreign exchange student. (well not so much teaching as supervising while she learns English)
[10:09] <Tm_Tr> nice :)
[10:09] <philipacamaniac> small, and yet, huge world
[10:09] <Tm_Tr> yup
[10:09] <philipacamaniac> (I'm in Arizona, btw)
[10:11] <philipacamaniac> I just noticed OOo 1.1.3 is still the latest 1 series in breezy
[10:12] <buz> is there anyway to use pipes in the xargs command?
[10:13] <buz> like 
[10:13] <buz> ls *rpm | xargs  --max-line=1  --interactive --replace=rstr rpm2cpio rstr |cpio -ivd "*"
[10:15] <pv_> maybe do   ls *rpm | (while read F; do rpm2cpio "$F" | cpio -idv "*"; done)
[10:16] <buz> that seems to work
[10:16] <buz> so, steps to install oo2 m104:
[10:16] <buz> get linux install.tar.gz
[10:16] <buz> untar 
[10:16] <buz> go to rpm dir
[10:16] <buz> run  ls *rpm | (while read F; do rpm2cpio "$F" | cpio -idv "*"; done)
[10:16] <pv_> it works as long as you do not have newlines in filenames
[10:17] <buz> na there aren't even whitespaces
[10:18] <buz> that will give you bog standard oo2
[10:18] <buz> no kde or anything
[10:18] <buz> but it works
[10:18] <buz> and surely is much less painful than compiling the bastard
[10:21] <buz> is there any place to put that?
[10:21] <buz> wiki maybe?
[10:21] <philipacamaniac> good idea, but someone needs to figure out the kde-specific commands to add
[10:22] <Tm_T> err, is there any ipv6 servers in freenode network?
[10:22] <philipacamaniac> rather, I need someone...
[10:22] <buz> mhh this is only for advanced users anyway
[10:22] <buz> they can edit the kmenu themselves no
[10:22] <philipacamaniac> no, kdialogs and such
[10:22] <buz> ah that i dunno how it works
[10:22] <buz> but oo2 without k stuff is better than no oo2 at all
[10:23] <philipacamaniac> i think OOo2 has kde compile options
[10:23] <buz> i.e. functional, but ugly
[10:23] <Tm_T> hmm
[10:23] <Tm_T> Koffice <3
[10:24] <philipacamaniac> KOffice doesn't cut it, I already discussed that :)
[10:24] <buz> i dont really see the point in koffice
[10:24] <buz> it looks ok, but isnt of much use at all
[10:24] <philipacamaniac> 2 words: filters & page paradigm
[10:24] <buz> heck it doesnt even speak its own fileformat very well
[10:24] <buz> ever tried to import oo2 oasis files?
[10:25] <philipacamaniac> (hmm, okay 3 words and an &
[10:25] <buz> but its no worse than steve's pages ;)
[10:25] <Gombeni> I know it is hard. but I think if someone could fork some of OOo filters that would be good
[10:25] <buz> why bother
[10:25] <buz> the really nifty thing in koffice is krita
[10:25] <buz> and that doesnt need the filters
[10:26] <buz> as for the rest (maybe -kexi), oo2 is above and beyond
[10:26] <Gombeni> I like krita becaus I HATE gimp's interface
[10:26] <buz> yeah me too
[10:26] <buz> krita is a perfect replacement for paintshop
[10:26] <buz> which is all i need
[10:26] <Gombeni> I am a professional photoshopper actually
[10:26] <buz> i'm perfectly incapable of anything related to graphics
[10:26] <Gombeni> and I miss a lot in krita
[10:27] <buz> as i say, its a paintshop, not a photoshop replacement :=
[10:27] <buz> its good enough to crop some images etc
[10:27] <buz> more i don't want to do ;)
[10:27] <Gombeni> yeah but I wish we have a photoshop replacement in koffice
[10:28] <buz> unlike many others, i have accepted i'm incapable of it
[10:28] <buz> yeah sure
[10:28] <buz> maybe the next few krita versions come close to that
[10:28] <buz> already, it's quite usable for simple task i think
[10:28] <Gombeni> I know it is hard/bad ... but gimp has a good code basis
[10:28] <Gombeni> fork :D
[10:28] <buz> i don0t think gtk is good at all ;)
[10:28] <Gombeni> no not gtk
[10:29] <Gombeni> I hat GTK
[10:29] <buz> well it's actually COMING from there
[10:29] <Gombeni> I hate it
[10:29] <Gombeni> I just mean the features
[10:29] <buz> i mean it used to be called gimp toolkit
[10:29] <buz> yeah they could go steal filters and the like
[10:29] <buz> but please, leave the ui there ;)
[10:30] <Gombeni> there UI is very annoying for anyone who has seen a good UI
[10:30] <Gombeni> their
[10:30] <buz> i wouldnt say photoshop is good per se
[10:30] <buz> but gimp REALLY sucks
[10:30] <Gombeni> photoshop has definitely a lot of good features
[10:30] <Gombeni> it would be nice to tweak it
[10:31] <Gombeni> I love the way I navigate in images in photoshop:
[10:32] <Gombeni> hold space key for navigation. if you add Ctrl you are in zoom mode
[10:32] <buz> mhh that wouldnt be too hard to add to krita i'd guess
[10:32] <Gombeni> yes
[10:32] <Gombeni> that's the point
[10:32] <buz> but many of the real features are hard
[10:32] <Gombeni> it makes a lot of sense when you use it
[10:33] <buz> if you add that one to the wishlist chances are high it gets implemented because its so easy
[10:33] <Gombeni> it is good to gain popularity first
[10:33] <buz> otoh if you want to use PS plugins that might be harder
[10:33] <Gombeni> yes I know, but they are not actually that critical for a designer
[10:34] <buz> some claim yes
[10:34] <buz>  but they are lousy artists
[10:34] <buz> in general, anyway
[10:34] <Gombeni> another application is karbon
[10:34] <Gombeni> I like it as well
[10:34] <Gombeni> it has some missing features as well
[10:35] <Gombeni> I think karbon should be merged with "kig" (that geometry education app)
[10:37] <liz4rd> hey sirukin
[10:38] <sirukin> hey
[10:52] <mrmanic> are there plans for kubuntu to include ipodslave, the kioslave for ipod?
[10:52] <philipacamaniac> it is being packaged for breezy
[10:52] <philipacamaniac> in universe I assume
[10:52] <mrmanic> awesome.
[10:58] <Mac38DO> Hi! I can't log in kde as root. How can I cange this?
[10:58] <philipacamaniac> no! j/k
[10:58] <Tm_T> Mac38DO: why should you?
[10:59] <philipacamaniac> you can use kdesu to perform root operations
[10:59] <uniq> mac38do: running kde as root is not recommended.
[11:00] <philipacamaniac> on the command line, use sudo
[11:00] <Tm_T> or su -c "command"
[11:00] <Tm_T> or whatever
[11:00] <uniq> sudo is recommended.
[11:01] <philipacamaniac> you can even do "sudo -i" to have a persistent root console login
[11:01] <Mac38DO> Some things do not work. For example the System-Administration-mode of KUser.
[11:01] <Tm_T> Mac38DO: use kdesu or sudo for it
[11:02] <Gombeni> is there anyway to use mplayer as the engine in amarok?
[11:02] <uniq> i wouldn't recommend using kuser it can behave strangely.
[11:02] <uniq> and do evil things.
[11:03] <Mac38DO> Why does I have to give my user-password, when I do "sudo kuser" and not the root-password?
[11:04] <liz4rd> Mac38DO: cuz thast how kubuntu was made
[11:04] <liz4rd> its better that way
[11:04] <Tm_T> or not
[11:05] <Tm_T> Gombeni: no
[11:05] <Mac38DO> liz4rd. So you can do root-tasks with a normal user-password??????
[11:05] <Tm_T> Gombeni: #amarok for more information
[11:05] <philipacamaniac> using user password is smarter/better than root password in a home environment
[11:05] <philipacamaniac> if you have users who shouldn't be doing things, remove them from the admin group
[11:07] <Mac38DO> I can't use the Administration-Modus of kuser, even when I start it as "sudo kuse".
[11:07] <Mac38DO> When I click on the button, it requires my password again
[11:07] <philipacamaniac> kdesu kuser
[11:08] <Mac38DO> and returns to the control-center  :-(
[11:08] <philipacamaniac> and kuser is kinda borked - 3.4.1 provided a crash fix.
[11:09] <mrmanic> That makes me so happy.
[11:09] <mrmanic> A working kuser
[11:14] <Tm_T> haha
[11:39] <pld1> Hi all
[11:40] <uniq> hi.
[11:41] <pld1> who use amule here ?
[11:49] <BorisH> Hi. I need assistance getting a printer to run under kubuntu. Anyone care to help? [should be somehow easy. it used to wqork under debian sid] 
[11:50] <pld1> what's u'r problem
[11:51] <BorisH> there is no printing, altought kprinter says it does print
[11:51] <BorisH> i have not found an error in /var/log/cups/error_log either.
[11:53] <FR> scuz me, i can't help u, i'v not printer and i'm french, i don't understand at all english
[11:54] <FR> good bye all