=== herzi [~herzi@dsl-084-056-234-236.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lakin [~lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:16] eeek [12:16] the gksudo patches were reverted [12:25] mdz: zopeinterface is ok for main [12:26] doko: thanks [12:33] phew, ffmpeg will require some assembler love.... === Ja1 [~kuznik@kuznik.gepro.cz] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === winkle [~winkle@lgh3814234.vittran.norrnod.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:46] hum, we should probably sync splashy from Debian experimental [12:48] seb128, i thought splshy was discarded in its current form ? [12:48] why? [12:48] some framebuffer probs in the implementation iirc [12:48] I don't say we should use it as default, but having it for universe doesn't hurt imho [12:49] thats true :) [12:52] hum, and gnome-alsamixer === drbyte [~byte@c220-237-62-156.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:09] daniels: around ? === robertj [~som@66-188-77-153.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Duck_zic is now known as Duck_dodo === AndyFitz [~andy@CPE-139-168-191-20.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === terrex taotrodiita === Weems [~Who@24-179-7-89.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [~mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arrogance [~aks@CPE00112f96b894-CM001225423850.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === psychicdragon [~david@d209-121-230-70.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gyroform [~user@cpe.atm0-0-0-1101164.0x50a6e7aa.bynxx5.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === womble [~mpalmer@220-245-224-46-nsw.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [~stub@203-217-37-199.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === SloMo [~slomo@p5487EE7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:12] mjg59: http://linux.dell.com/blog/2005/06/21/#1639 [03:12] thom: http://linux.dell.com/blog/2005/06/21/#1639 [03:34] Converting ./caution.png [03:34] /bin/sh: ./caution.png: Permission denied [03:34] sigh === marcin_ant [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [amaranth@ip68-229-189-61.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ikuyaLoqu [~ikuya@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === squinn [~squinn@68.205.198.0] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi [~wasabi@c-67-174-81-195.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mxpxpod [~bryan@mxpxpod.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:08] jdub: dude [04:08] jdub: something wicked is going on with ubuntu-users [04:08] jdub: i'm getting MANY bounces [04:08] something like someone tried to subscribe bloglines.. i dunno [04:10] mako [04:10] dud [04:10] dude === svenl [~luther@AStrasbourg-251-1-12-87.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:19] jsgotangco: yessir [04:19] jsgotangco: whats' up [04:20] mako, nvm we got it figured out, it was because the last docteam was using your p.u.c shell to host the preview pages of docs [04:20] mako, we'll just put it in our svn since it has https access [04:22] mako, although we're still not sure if its the best way to go [04:48] wtf [04:49] i don't know how windows does it but it automatically makes bad spots in ram unusable [04:50] i'm supposed to have 512MB, windows says i have 501MB because some is bad [04:51] it does? [04:51] I know you can do it in linux [04:51] I wasn't aware that windows had that functionality [04:51] you're sure you don't have an integrated video which steams ram? [04:52] linux can't do that, can it? [04:52] i thought you had to tell it what parts were bad [04:52] you do, but you tell it by scanning memory [04:53] it's not much of a stretch to integrate it more [04:53] if your kernel has the badram patch [04:53] yeah === srbaker [~srbaker@S0106001217ad6427.pk.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:53] it takes 40 minutes to scan my RAM, windows seemingly does it instantly [04:53] do ubuntu kernels have the badram patch? [04:53] not afaik [04:53] are you sure windows is ignoring 11MB because it's bad? [04:53] generally I throw out ram that's bad [04:54] bob2: only reason i can think of, it generally reads it all for me [04:54] but as I said before, are you sure it isn't an integrated graphics controller or something? [04:54] and the computer works, so it's doing something [04:54] i have a radeon [04:54] so no [04:55] with a different set of 512MB ram in this machine windows read it as 512MB [04:55] i wish i could get some new ram but it's $$$ and i'm a student [04:56] so i had to switch to windows unless i wanted a CLI with messed up text === squinn [~squinn@68.205.198.0] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cartel_ [~cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:00] candidate ubuntu logo: http://fun.sdinet.de/pics/3ubuntu.jpg [05:01] mako: yeah, looking at it atm [05:01] mako: i've already removed most of the bouncing addresses, but there's obviously a whole stack in the queue [05:05] i love it. [05:05] i want a tshirt [05:06] i want one of the models [05:06] that's so last week [05:06] heh [05:06] bob2 haha === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> orwell.freenode.net === chris38-home [~Christian@LNeuilly-152-22-2-96.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === womble [~mpalmer@220-245-224-46-nsw.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:02] cartel_: ... O_O === lu|away is now known as lu|sleep [06:08] daniels: ping [06:10] morning === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> orwell.freenode.net === julien [julien@feng.planet-work.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Jimbob [~jcape@c-24-14-115-101.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Jimbob_ [~jcape@c-24-14-115-101.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `anthony_ [~anthony@ekorp-203-63-137-225.eoff.ekorp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `anthony [~anthony@ekorp-203-63-137-225.eoff.ekorp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:37] morning all [06:38] hey doko [06:38] doko: you are a perl expert, aren't you? [06:40] fabbione: not really, that's the reason I'm learning python now [06:40] doko: ehehe [06:40] mind to take a look at http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/libg/libgtk2-perl/1:1.090-1/ ? [06:40] perhaps you have a clue on why it is FTBFS [06:41] a test failure and that's clear [06:41] but why... [06:44] I'm putting it on the list. somebody wants me to extract preprocessed sources from the kernel source first [06:47] thanks === spo0nman [~pankaj@spo0nman.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax9-114.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === \sh [~sh@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bskahan [~bskahan@pool-70-19-81-157.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:16] howdy ho, what's the command to apt-get dist-upgrade and have no config protect i.e. write all new config files pulled from the new version? === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.247.214] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:34] mdz: ping? 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[10:37] stuNNed: -o DPkg::options::=--force-confnew [10:37] stuNNed: but I'd strongly advise using dpkg --force-confnew by hand on individual packages rather than doing that for a whole apt run === Amaranth [~amaranth@amaranth.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Safari_Al [~tr@ppp241-50.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zeedo [~zeedo@www.reboot-robot.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-46-47.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === herzi [~herzi@195.20.225.146] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ozamosi [~ozamosi@80.252.185.147] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.40.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dr88dr88 [~gerrit@h174040.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === herzi [~herzi@195.20.225.146] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Seveas [~seveas@ksl403-uva-153.wireless.uva.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.34.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:31] elmo: drivel sync please [11:33] seb128: was there a gdk_cairo_create symbol in libcairo in the past? [11:33] doko: read the NEWS, all the new/deprecated functions are listed [11:33] and 0.5.1 does break the 0.5.0 API/ABI [11:34] I've not replied to your mail yet [11:34] doko: anyway gdk_... seems to be a gtk namescheme [11:43] seb128: this symbol is undefined in lib-gnu-java-awt-peer-gtk.so.6, but this is linked against libcairo 0.5. trying to find out, where I can find the reference. it's not in the libgcj source [11:46] doko: /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gdk/gdkcairo.h:cairo_t *gdk_cairo_create (GdkDrawable *drawable); [11:46] doko: that's a new gtk symbol [11:46] (and I'm not going to upload this gtk to debian unstable) [11:47] (or to ubuntu) [11:58] seb128, would you mind looking at a really odd bug [11:58] https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12084 === Xof [~mas01cr@158.223.59.22] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:01] daniels: any word on that xterm source? === hunger [~hunger@195.143.232.242] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:04] Burgundavia: that's not weird, that's a known bug [12:04] seb128, ok, shouldn't have bugged you [12:04] np [12:04] on another note, did you see my stuff on users&groups?(I will file the new bugs upstream tomorrow) [12:05] yep I've read my mails yesterday [12:05] and I'm quite bug flooded for some time, these are upstream and low priority [12:05] I'll reply today though === `anthony [~anthony@220-253-12-30.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `anthony_ [~anthony@220-253-12-30.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:16] Kamion: no, sorry, but apparently we have working wireless now, so I'm going to fire up my laptop and check [12:17] been setting up these two machines all morning, and running around setting up machines for HP (their stand is using Ubuntu on some machines, and we owe them because they lent us two machiens), etc [12:17] right now I'm IRCing from one of the display amchines. i'm trying not to do this much. ;) [12:17] heh [12:17] right, bbiab, will try to get wireless on my laptop. [12:17] daniels: are you interested in a multi-device patch for xorg ? [12:17] ttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3594 [12:18] courtesy a ubuntu user in #twisted [12:18] lifeless is inventing new protocols again [12:18] hom: sure am. [12:19] <\sh> argl...jabberd2 s03 is heavily broken when it comes to more then 100 conns [12:19] <\sh> updating it [12:20] hoorah! i'm now IRCing from something that isn't a 19" LCD [12:20] a little less obvious [12:21] heh === mdke [~matt@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:23] lifeless: um, that's NOTOURBUG [12:23] lifeless: the nv driver is crap and doesn't do dual head at all [12:23] not with a Xinerama-like setup, not with a MergedFB-like setup [12:24] daniels: ah. but this might help fix it ? [12:24] daniels: what should I tell the guy that gave me the patch. [12:24] me / you [12:25] lifeless: tell him that he needs to use the nvidia driver or buy hardware from a vendor who makes better drivers [12:26] hi all. a friend of mine has told me that he got assigned a bug, although he has nothing to do with the development of Ubuntu ;) does anyone know how this can have happened? its bug 12077 [12:27] if you type just part of a name, bugzilla auto-completes [12:27] somebody probably forgot to check [12:27] hmm i see [12:28] that bug is quite oddly reported [12:28] I'll reassign it somewhere [12:28] seems that the submitter has assigned it [12:28] yeah ok that is what I figured [12:28] seb128: you want it? :P [12:28] my friend has never heard of the submitter, so I guess he just typed in part of a name or something [12:29] Kamion: pick "reassign to owner/QA" for the component, that will probably go to me anyway :p === mdke nods [12:29] (critical? my arse) [12:29] thanks guys [12:29] beautiful detail given in that bug [12:29] seb128: yup ;) [12:30] guys ... please don't file bugs on dpkg using the Ubuntu bugzilla, the chances of me seeing them is practically zero. File them on the Debian BTS. [12:45] <\sh> pitti: ping [12:45] Hi \sh [12:45] <\sh> pitti: i'm trying to compile jabberd2...it needs postgresql-dev and is searching for libpq-fe.h === zeedo [~zeedo@www.reboot-robot.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:46] <\sh> pitti: apt-file says it's in postgresql-dev (or new libpq-dev) but it doesn't find it... [12:47] \sh: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-June/008021.html [12:47] \sh: libpq-dev is the correct package [12:47] libpq-dev | 8.0.3-6 | http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages [12:47] <\sh> pitti: hmmm [12:47] <\sh> yes...it doesn't find it [12:48] \sh: you have to convert it to the new architecture [12:48] \sh: what do you mean with "find it"? [12:48] the package is in the archive [12:49] <\sh> libpq-fe.h is not found by configure, looking into /usr/include/postgresql and /usr/local/... [12:49] <\sh> the package itself is not the problem ;) [12:49] \sh: ah, you have to use pg_config --includedir [12:49] \sh: it's now in /usr/include/postgresql/8.0, but you should not hardcode that [12:49] \sh: \sh: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-June/008021.html [12:50] <\sh> ah thx :)( [12:50] pitti: gst-plugins0.8 Debian package now builds a musepack package, that requires libmpcdec3 which is universe ... what is the procedure for such case? Should I ping you/somebody to review it for main, or just assume that's fine and upload? :) [12:51] seb128: it should be reviewed [12:51] seb128: for packaging, security history, QA, and in particular patents [12:51] seb128: is that something mp3'ish? [12:52] musepack is a format [12:52] which is not mp [12:52] mp3 [12:52] apt-cache show libmpcdec3 [12:53] seb128: do you know the patent situation? [12:53] no [12:53] seb128: please add it to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionQueue [12:53] k [12:53] thanks pitti [12:54] seb128: btw, I still experience polypaudio crashes [12:54] :( [12:54] seb128: I'm packaging a new esd now, if that works fine with thew new alsa again, we should keep it for now [12:54] who put gtkhtml3.0 for main? [12:54] seb128: I'll try to fix polypaudio, but we should have sth stable ready [12:55] we have 3.6 and 3.8 ... there is no way to use these? [12:55] pitti: k [12:55] seb128: oh right, -> tseng ? [12:56] bah, the esd package is a mess... === Echylo [~echylo@79-161.245.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:58] pitti: like a lot of changes directly to the .diff.gz? [12:58] yes [12:58] and of course most of them fail to apply to the new orig.tar.gz [12:58] was the same with gdm ... === pitti dives into diff.gz... [12:59] some maitainers really deserve some kicking [12:59] all the ones who use c d b s, for a start ;-) [12:59] *cough* === seb128 kicks thom === Kamion blocks [01:00] oh, does thom use cdbs? :-) [01:00] cdbs is great :) [01:00] -> [01:00] #ubuntu-religiouswars, please [01:01] *giggle [01:01] * === Baby [~nena@baby.kavi.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:01] thom: can you fix firefox to work with pango/cairo? [01:02] seb128: it doesn't? [01:02] <\sh> how can I see from where we did sync a package for hoary or breezy? [01:02] \sh: "where"? [01:02] when? [01:02] thom: no, it assumes than gtk use pangoxft, which is not true with cairo [01:03] <\sh> pitti: yes...jabberd2 is only available from debian experimental ;) [01:03] \sh: Origin: line in the mail to *-changes [01:03] seb128: oh lordy [01:03] seb128: k, i'll look [01:03] <\sh> Kamion: thx [01:04] thom: workaround is to edit /usr/bin and to comment the PANGO export :) [01:04] seb128: where are gtk+cairo packages? [01:05] thom: "deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/gtk ./" for i386 [01:05] Kamion: who uses xterm, anyway? [01:05] deb-src at the same place for !i386 :p [01:05] daniels: oh, only gnome-session :P [01:05] thom: that's new pango/gtk [01:05] seb128: cool, k [01:06] Kamion: wtf? === quitte [~quitte@p54A0A28C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:07] seb128: oh; can you add nm-applet to the default session, please? :-) (I assume you can add stuff that won't necessarily be installed yet without difficulty) === {Seb} [~{Seb}@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:09] <{Seb}> i've gotting a problem with brezzy (as usual) [01:09] did someone successfully build glibc with gcc-4 already? I tried with the debian version and couldn't get it working even with a lot of patches and with glibc from cvs. but later i found out that the problem might have been the binutils beeing too old. so now im wondering if i should give it another try. [01:09] <{Seb}> i keep getting this error while going a dist-upgrade: [01:10] thom: k [01:10] merci bien [01:11] <{Seb}> the error is http://pastebin.com/302434 === GNULinuxer [~ghoseb@59.95.2.146] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:11] thom: de rien :) [01:11] <{Seb}> any way around this? [01:11] # [01:11] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs-data_6.8.2-32_all.deb (--unpack): [01:11] # [01:11] trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb', which is also in package libx11-6 [01:11] is your issue [01:11] <{Seb}> yep [01:12] ... why is that in libx11-6? [01:13] <{Seb}> seb128: any ideas? [01:13] <{Seb}> seb128: i've clered the cache and tried several times [01:13] daniels: gnome-session falls over with a viciously ugly error when you don't have xterm installed [01:13] says "chooseSessionListWidget" [01:14] Kamion: it says that even with xterm installed for me [01:14] Kamion: I've seen tat as well [01:14] daniels: at least I assume it's gnome-session, it's something in that arena at least [01:14] actually, I think it's to do with GDM's sessions [01:14] Kamion: what the frig [01:14] <{Seb}> has anyone else experienced this problem? [01:14] Kamion: i think xterm is used in the fallback session [01:14] so you've already lost if you've fallen back [01:14] cause once I selected GNOME as default [01:14] it worked fine [01:14] gnome can fail viciously when it doesn't find apps it wants to === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:14] daniels: as schweeb says [01:14] but when I actually used "Default Session" [01:15] it didn't work [01:15] Kamion: isn't that #11942 ? [01:15] Kamion: so, try using a different session... GNOME preferably [01:15] schweeb: exactly. also, ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't work anymore [01:15] seb128: yes [01:15] well, that's a vty issue [01:15] Treenaks: yeah, that's my bug [01:15] Kamion: iz gdm bug [01:15] <{Seb}> has no one else got this error - am i doing something wrong? [01:16] Treenaks, that was fixed by mdz with -32 [01:16] schweeb: this isn't an "I want my personal system to work" thing, this is an "I want fresh installs from CD images I'm producing to work" thing :P [01:16] {Seb}: try #ubuntu [01:16] <{Seb}> but this is breezy? [01:16] Kamion: haha, sure [01:16] and? [01:16] {Seb}: this is not an user chan nor a bug tracker [01:16] {Seb}: it's an X bug. the X maintainer already answered: [01:16] 12:12 < daniels> ... why is that in libx11-6? [01:16] Kamion: but I want my personal system to work :p [01:17] {Seb}: please don't repeat "has anyone else seen this?" over and over again [01:17] technically, it works fine though, after I choose a session other than "Default" [01:17] gcc-4 is the default in breezy? [01:17] <{Seb}> Kamion: any idea when the bug will be fixed then? [01:17] {Seb}: no. === schweeb takes off for work [01:17] later guys === spacey [~spacey@145.33.144.151] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:19] {Seb}: i'm on holiday this week, so no idea [01:19] <{Seb}> right [01:19] <{Seb}> oh well, back to SUSE ;-) [01:20] do i at least have a voice here? [01:20] i think there have been like five xorg uploads, one libx11 upload and one libxext upload since I last had the most recent sources of anything on my laptop [01:20] quitte: gcc-4.0 is the default, but not necessarily used for all packages (some override it due to compiler bugs) [01:20] daniels: yea, mdz's been pretty busy with your xorg :p [01:21] ok thanks. that's great. you dont know if glibc already used gcc-4? [01:21] schweeb: i did notice all the xorg uploads, and now all the bugs for stuff that I didn't change that was allegedly fixed by the same person who filed them :P no idea hwat's going on [01:21] hahaha [01:21] quitte: not offhand, no [01:21] daniels: welcome to my life, I never know what's going on at work anymore [01:22] if I don't fix it myself, who knows when the hell it'll get fixed (if at all) === schweeb leaves for real [01:25] seb128: pango from your repo doesn't build-depend on cairo [01:25] arg [01:26] thanks [01:26] jdub: around? [01:27] {Seb}: force the package install, that's not a big deal === bskahan [~bskahan@pool-68-161-35-67.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:31] <\sh> ah...now it runs stable [01:33] pitti: YES, CDBS IS GREAT ! [01:35] \sh: tamed postgresql? [01:36] <\sh> pitti: yeah...jabberd2_2.0s08 runs now ;) [01:36] <\sh> but I'm really not sure, what JOSS JabberD server is...it's plain jabber.org jabberd2 server [01:36] Duck_Happy: it's sure is :-) [01:36] <\sh> and it's not from debian...the experimental package is completly different from that package we have inside [01:37] sivang: :-) [01:38] hey Duck_Happy [01:38] coin seb128 [01:38] sivang: I've dropped the packages you listed a second time on LaunchpadIntegration (you put 3 GtkUIManager packages already listed) [01:39] Duck_Happy: why are you happy? :) [01:39] seb128: ah ok, sorry [01:39] seb128: which were them? [01:39] seb128: because i think i found the ONE [01:39] sivang: looks on the wiki diff, not sure [01:39] so every Duck_ is overriden [01:39] seb128: btw, what about gaim? did I list it under the right catagory?? [01:40] seb128: esd 0.2.26 plays well with alsa again [01:40] sivang: dunno [01:40] sivang: but you listed bug-buddy ... is there a bug-buddy menu? [01:40] seb128: so in the next gstreamer upload, could you please switch back the default sink to esd? [01:40] pitti: sure [01:41] seb128: that will work with both esd and polypaudio, direct dmix still breaks for too many people [01:41] seb128: no there is not. Thanks for correcting me [01:41] pitti: k [01:41] pitti: so I should change my alsasink back to esdsink? [01:41] seb128: as you with [01:41] seb128: if alsa works fine for you, there is not really a reason to [01:41] s/with/wish? [01:42] seb128: erm, yes [01:42] :) [01:42] seb128: esd ist just a safer default [01:42] but we keep dmix? [01:42] sure [01:42] hum, I though it doesn't work well with esound [01:42] esound and dmix I mean [01:42] seb128: not with 0.2.35 :-) [01:42] oh, that's fixed? [01:42] seb128: I upload 0.2.36 shortly [01:43] rock [01:43] nice job pitti :) [01:43] yep, new esd works well === abelli [~john@c51639e7d2c510ce.session.tor] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pamri [~pamri@dialpool-210-214-122-36.maa.sify.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [~ogra@p5089DACD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === susus [~sz@p5089DACD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blueyed [~daniel@i528C37BF.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cmihai [~cmihai@cmihai.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mxpxpod [~bryan@12-207-1-46.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:08] \sh: please send the jabberd postgresql patch to Debian [02:08] <\sh> pitti: i can't [02:08] \sh: Debian has started the transition, too, and if possible we should sync from them [02:08] why not? [02:09] <\sh> pitti: the jabberd2 version which we're using is not the same debian is using...debian has jabberd2 in experimental...and we got it from somewhere else [02:09] <\sh> and I don't know from where... [02:09] ah, ok [02:09] nevermind, then [02:09] <\sh> JOSS Jabberd2 rewrite *whatever it is* [02:09] <\sh> is oures [02:09] <\sh> ours even [02:13] pitti: hi! [02:13] pitti: what can I help you with === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:13] tseng: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionQueue has gtkhtml3.0 for gtk-sharp [02:14] tseng: any chance that gtk# can do with 3.6 or 3.8 which are already in main? [02:14] pitti: hm can you double check that, i rebuilt it with 3.6 [02:14] tseng: thanks for the other reports [02:14] pitti: a few weeks ago [02:14] that would be cool [02:14] Depends: libgtkhtml3.6-18 [02:14] from apt-cache depends libgnome-cil [02:14] same for libgnome2.0-cil [02:15] it should be a non-issue now, yes? [02:15] pitti: should have some more reports tonight. [02:16] tseng: thanks, then we can remove it from the queue [02:16] pitti: great, no problem [02:17] tseng: I review your reports shortly [02:17] s/shortly/soon/ [02:18] elmo: can you please sync f-spot 0.0.13-3 from unstable, ok to overwrite [02:19] pitti: thanks [02:21] jdub: must have been something weird, last night i was getting like 10:1 ubuntu-users bounces to everything else.. almost all from bloglines === tarjei [~tarjeih@mail2.bergfald.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione kills power3* power4* kernels [02:35] s/kills/builds again [02:35] no [02:35] there is powerpc64-smp for them [02:35] power3 and power4 in 32bit are not supported by upstream anymore [02:35] so you go 64Bit [02:36] fabbione: even userspace? [02:36] userspace is still 32bit [02:36] there is no need of 64bit userland [02:36] come no? === jdong [~jdong@d149-67-171-99.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:36] .. ooppss . [02:36] no [02:36] there is no need to [02:36] like sparc [02:36] 64 bit kernel -> 32 bit userland [02:36] it works perfectly [02:37] hey, is Breezy gonna have SELinux? I thought it was gonna be Breezy+1, but the WikiPage shows excellent progress already.... [02:37] so if i find a 32 bti kernel .. it should work? === SloMoSnail [~slomo@vpn-imt12.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:37] abelli: yes, but i don't see the point in running a 32bit kernel when 64bit run better [02:38] jdong: do you have time to document what you alluded to the other day about rsyncing the livecd fs to zero removed bits? [02:38] jdong: it would be very helpful to several people. [02:38] fabbione: ive got a 32bit cpu running sarge atm. [02:38] jdong: stuff like installer support hasn't been specced and I don't have time to do it, so ... [02:39] abelli: if it's a power3/power4 cpu than you can run 64bit [02:39] tseng: it's just dd'ing a 2GB file of zeros, making an ext2fs on it, loop-mounting, and copying over all files to it :) [02:39] jdong: im sorry, i dont have a really strong grasp on the entire process to just instantly pick up on what you are saying [02:40] jdong: is there any chance you could put that note in the appropriate place on the LiveCDCustomizationHowot [02:40] howto* [02:40] fabbione: sun sparc 5? [02:41] abelli: i am talking about powerpc [02:41] power3/power4 = powerpc [02:41] tseng: ok [02:41] jdong: thanks muchly :) [02:41] fabbione: ... [02:42] yes .. i was .. [02:42] i was .. sorry . [02:42] so what has that to do with sun sparc? === fabbione doesn't get it [02:42] you said your sparc port as 32 bit userland .. [02:43] so i said "if i get a 32 bit kernel, would it work?" [02:43] tseng: did you check upstream bug trackers for these packages? [02:44] abelli. hoary probably yes.. not breezy [02:44] abelli: but all sparc userlands are 32 bit [02:44] elmo: I need to get a bunch of Priority fields changed to make debootstrap 0.3 work well with breezy. What's the format you'd prefer to get those changes in? [02:44] pitti: yes, there are alot of open bugs around [02:44] tseng: a friend of mine just asks me why breagle is not available for amd64 [02:44] pitti: but nothing major. [02:45] tseng: any reason for that? [02:45] fabbione: its my first sparc .. i didnt know that. [02:45] tseng: thanks; the bug situation should be mentioned in the reports [02:45] pitti: hm ogra, dholbach, Nafallo all used it [02:45] beagle | 0.0.11.1-0ubuntu1 | breezy/universe | source, amd64, i386, powerpc [02:45] pitti: i'm running beagle on amd64 [02:45] moreover .. it was already installed when i received it .. and i havent even powered it up since then. [02:45] abelli: ok :) [02:45] ok, thanks [02:45] pitti, doesnt work to well, but runs :) [02:46] pitti: he will need to install libmono-dev as a work around until 1.1.8.1 packaging is finished. they handled versioning of a .so poorly [02:46] fabbione: should i make it installing hoary? [02:46] abelli: it won't work. installer in hoary is broken [02:46] any tricks? [02:46] ...trick [02:46] . [02:46]