[12:01] <simber> come on, anybody ?
[12:03] <Quest-Master> Does absolutely ANYONE have any idea why a piece of compiled software is returning floating point exceptions?
[12:03] <Quest-Master> While, a fellow Gentooer has the same libs. and stuff as me and it runs perfectly fine for him
[12:03] <Dj_AlTeK> i dont like floating point exceptions
[12:03] <Quest-Master> ><
[12:04] <mozzi> simber: sorry no
[12:04] <flankk> Quest-Master, gentoo source files have bugfixes.
[12:05] <Quest-Master> flankk: It's not Gentoo software by any means, it's just a program which has Windows and Linux downloads and it works for him but not me
[12:05] <mozzi> simber: what is your prob?
[12:05] <Dj_AlTeK> i run gentoox on my xbox
[12:06] <simber> i just want to buy a new printer and i just wanted to know if somebody as used it
[12:06] <flankk> Quest-Master, what is 'Gentoo software' ? if it is from the gentoo repos, then it has been patched, if you used the original.. then figure it out for yourself.
[12:06] <Quest-Master> It's not from Gentoo
[12:06] <Quest-Master> Figure it out for myself? Thanks for the help!
[12:07] <flankk> Quest-Master, er.. this is #ubuntu
[12:07] <Dj_AlTeK> not #gentoo
[12:07] <Quest-Master> flankk: Yeah. And it's an #ubuntu problem if it works on other distros. but not mine. This has nothing to with Gentoo. :)
[12:08] <flankk> Quest-Master, ah, now comes a glimpse of clarity
[12:08] <ThE__OnE> whats a good firewall?
[12:08] <flankk> Quest-Master, you haven't given the name of the package, and if you are compiling, it is not platform-dependant.
[12:08] <mbirkis> ThE__OnE: iptables
[12:09] <mozzi> simber: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1010
[12:09] <ThE__OnE> a firewall which can ask me if i should allow certain program to access the internet like winxp firewall
[12:09] <jward> hmm.. ubuntu ships with firefox 1.0.2... does it upgrade to 1.0.4?
[12:09] <mozzi> google is your friend
[12:09] <mozzi> :D
[12:10] <mbirkis> ThE__OnE: i don't know of any application based firewalls... maybe google can help, or someone else has an idea... sorry
[12:10] <flankk> ThE__OnE, apt-cache search is also your friend
[12:10] <ThE__OnE> ya google is your friend, but google is filles with many choices, narrowing it down is not easy
[12:10] <mozzi> ThE__OnE: try www.clarkconnect.org
[12:10] <simber> mozzi: thank you very much
[12:11] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: i have somethign for you, hang on a minim
[12:11] <mozzi> simber: next time do this http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&biw=795&q=hp+laserjet+1010&btnG=Search
[12:12] <ThE__OnE> nalioth, oh i will
[12:12] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: check this out:  http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[12:12] <ThE__OnE> ok
[12:13] <Thanatermesis> ThE__OnE, ? hi
[12:13] <mozzi> ThE__OnE: you can also try smoothwall
[12:14] <mozzi> just out of interest what has xp firewall have to do with this?
[12:14] <Thanatermesis> I have packaged a serie of libs and utils for E17 for debian, any person speak me of in ubuntu have problems (diferents versions of libs), if any person like to try the packages and help me for repair dependences for use in ubuntu same to debian... speak me
[12:14] <llaama> "/ whois ChanServ"
[12:14] <llaama> !!
[12:14] <ubotu> llaama: Are you smoking crack?
[12:14] <llaama> huh?
[12:15] <llaama> what?
[12:15] <llaama> to a whois to ChanServ
[12:15] <llaama> amiga!
[12:15] <llaama> gghd
[12:16] <llaama> what happened here/
[12:16] <llaama> ...
[12:16] <llaama> did everyone die?
[12:16] <nalioth> llaama: yes, you killed us all
[12:16] <mozzi> ThE__OnE: winxp firewall just blocs stuff how can you let it through?
[12:16] <sirri^> llaama, I'm still here.. asking a question soon
[12:16] <anto9us> hehe
[12:16] <llaama> ahhh
[12:16] <Thanatermesis> any person like to try E17 ?
[12:16] <mozzi> you seem to have another problem
[12:16] <asadf> setting up setting setting up
[12:16] <asadf> taking foever
[12:17] <asadf> but i cant wait
[12:17] <mozzi> Thanatermesis: what is E17?
[12:17] <nalioth> mozzi: enlightenment desktop mangler
[12:17] <nalioth> mozzi: version .17
[12:17] <mozzi> aha! sorry run kubuntu
[12:18] <llaama> there arent any operators in this channel?
[12:18] <catch> what user does apache2 run as in ubuntu?
[12:18] <sirri^> Is it just me and my messed up system or why does this happen: apt-get upgrade: e2fslibs: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is installed \n e2fsprogs: PreDepends: e2fslibs (= 1.35-8ubuntu2) but 1.37+1.38-WIP-0509-1 is installed ?
[12:18] <nalioth> llaama: are you gonna cause trouble?
[12:18] <mozzi> llaama: what you bleating about?
[12:18] <llaama> no
[12:18] <Thanatermesis> mozzi, enlightenment 17
[12:18] <nalioth> sirri^: are you using non-ubuntu repos?
[12:18] <sirri^> nalioth, universe :)
[12:19] <rBo3Db> hello... i had until recently ubuntu on the hdb... i took out the hda for some reason, and the former hdb is now hda... can anyone direct me how should i start to tell grub (/boot--hda5) to boot? thanks...
[12:19] <sirri^> nalioth, and marillat
[12:19] <nalioth> sirri^: the marillat is causing the problem
[12:19] <catch> rBo3Db: backup grub.conf and menu.lst in /boot/grub and run update-grub
[12:20] <catch> can anyone tell me, what user does apache2 run as in ubuntu?
[12:20] <llaama> ChanServ has been logged in for 35 years?!
[12:20] <asadf> setting up xlibs
[12:20] <asadf> how far until done?
[12:20] <dajar> hey all
[12:21] <colin__> hello, i just have a quick question
[12:21] <dajar> how easy is it to set up ssh
[12:21] <catch> dajar : sudo apt-get install ssh
[12:21] <colin__> the ubuntu-5.04-dvd-i386.iso is an install dvd right? not a live dvd?
[12:21] <sirri^> nalioth, right. I'll look in to it
[12:21] <rBo3Db> catch: thank u... from which point am I supposed to run that command? i can't get into ubuntu... running knoppix now?
[12:21] <asadf> both i think!
[12:22] <catch> colin__ : you can do both
[12:22] <nalioth> dajar: you should have a ssh client by default
[12:22] <dajar> how would i configure it
[12:22] <nalioth> dajar: did you want a ssh server?
[12:22] <colin__> thanks so much
[12:22] <dajar> i want ot be and ssh server
[12:22] <TokenBad> anyone know the url for the unstable repository? it has the new version of electric sheep on it..
[12:22] <catch> dajar: it auto configures
[12:22] <Thanatermesis> what are the version of libc6 used in ubuntu ?
[12:22] <dajar> so i set it up
[12:23] <concept10> rBo3Db, you can edit the boot comands from the grub menu upon startup
[12:23] <dajar> then it adds users form my users and groups?
[12:23] <nalioth> dajar: then install "openssh-server"
[12:23] <catch> dajar : that's correct
[12:23] <catch> unless you've done something cleaver with pam :)
[12:23] <catch> does anyone know what user apache2 runs as please?
[12:24] <rBo3Db> concept10: thanks... well, my hda just won't get me into the grub shell... should i try to put grub into MBR somehow?
[12:25] <amonkey> what package do i need to open up ace files
[12:25] <GreaseMonkey> Pingout already!
[12:25] <nalioth> amonkey: unace-nonfree
[12:25] <catch> GreaseMonkey : if you haev it registered then ghost it :)
[12:26] <amonkey> nalioth, i don't see that package, what rep do i need?
[12:26] <GreaseMonkey> catch: How?
[12:26] <catch> so long as you have it registered /nickserv identify <nick> <pass>
[12:26] <nalioth> amonkey: uni and multi should cover it
[12:26] <catch> . /nickserv ghost <nick>
[12:26] <concept10> rBo3Db, if you are in Knoppix right now, edit menu.lst and then reboot
[12:26] <catch> i think from memory
[12:27] <catch> concept10 : do you know which user apache2 runs as by default ?
[12:27] <rBo3Db> concept10: well, should i change all those references to hd1,5 to hd0,5?.. only that?
[12:29] <GreaseMonkey> catch: Isn't working
[12:29] <amonkey> nalioth, i see unrar-nonfree, no unace
[12:29] <GreaseMonkey> keeps saying that <GreaseMonkey> isn't registered
[12:29] <catch> GreaseMonkey : you have registered it?
[12:30] <GreaseMonkey> I registered Kyral
[12:30] <catch> and identified to it correctly
[12:30] <nalioth> amonkey: really? let me look
[12:30] <rBo3Db> concept10: indeed, don't mean you should know my partition numbers...
[12:30] <GreaseMonkey> GreaseMonkey is my alt
[12:30] <GreaseMonkey> Kyral SHOULD have pinged out by now
[12:30] <nalioth> amonkey: my apt-cache search turned it up
[12:31] <concept10> rBo3Db, correct.  Just find out what your partitions are and change them accordingly
[12:31] <catch> GreaseMonkey : did you do /nickserv identify Kyral <your password> ?
[12:31] <GreaseMonkey> yah
[12:31] <concept10> catch, let me see
[12:31] <GreaseMonkey> said the nick GreaseMonkey isn't registered
[12:31] <catch> and then /nickserv ghost Kyral ?
[12:31] <catch> hmmmm .... 2 secs
[12:32] <dajar_> thanks for helking my with everything guys :D
[12:32] <rBo3Db> concept10: i appreciate your help, will give a try...
[12:32] <amonkey> nalioth, mine doesn't, and i just verified i have uni and multi. do you have additional reps?
[12:32] <dajar_> ive installed open-sshserver do i need to run it
[12:33] <concept10> catch, I dont know about ubuntu but in debian the user is www-data, may be the same, I dont run apache in ubuntu
[12:33] <GreaseMonkey> catch: Found the command
[12:33] <nalioth> amonkey: only source repos
[12:33] <dajar_> or does it automaticly run
[12:33] <catch> GreaseMonkey :)
[12:33] <catch> concept10 cheers, will try that now :)
[12:33] <amonkey> nalioth, odd
[12:34] <GreaseMonkey> nickserv ghost <nick> <password>
[12:34] <catch> GreaseMonkey : ahh thoguht you had to identiy first
[12:34] <GreaseMonkey> and guess what
[12:34] <jesus> bluetooth in a Toshiba Sat.Pro M10... help!
[12:34] <GreaseMonkey> it already pinged out :P
[12:34] <dajar_> and ssh uses port 23?
[12:35] <sirri^> nalioth, commenting out those marillat repos doesn't work. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[12:35] <catch> dejar_ : 22
[12:35] <catch> isnt ti?
[12:35] <catch> or am i just tired
[12:35] <llaama> so, does anyone here know why my wireless network connection is sending but not receiving?
[12:35] <dajar_> 22? dammit i jsut unlocked port 23
[12:36] <dajar_> and does it autorun?
[12:36] <dajar_> or do i have to start it
[12:36] <catch> dajar_ : depends on your setup ;) if you just have a straight build of ubuntu, it should auto run, but test it first :)
[12:37] <dajar_> thanks 1 min
[12:37] <nalioth> sirri^: remove the offending item (use synaptic)
[12:37] <nalioth> sirri^: then reinstall from ubuntu repos
[12:37] <nalioth> amonkey: are you overwhelmed?
[12:37] <nalioth> dajar_: if you install "openssh-server" you do nothing. it does it all on its own
[12:37] <dajar_> thanks :)
[12:38] <dajar_> and its port 22?
[12:38] <Mez> hmm
[12:38] <Mez> trying to run mythtv - it's segfauklting
[12:38] <amonkey> nalioth, not really, unace without the nonfree was there
[12:38] <amonkey> nalioth, and it worked
[12:39] <nalioth> amonkey: well there you go
[12:39] <catch> dajar_ http://www.lb.shuttle.de/apastron/ports.htm
[12:40] <nalioth> amonkey: i run PPC, which is why i have all the deb-src lines
[12:40] <dajar__> i looked at wikipeida :)
[12:40] <dajar__> thanks anyway
[12:41] <sirri^> nalioth, The package which I get complaints when trying to upgrade, e2fslibs, can't removed due to dependencies.
[12:42] <hyrax42> ok
[12:42] <hyrax42> this is drivign me nuts
[12:42] <kong0> can i get quake? my friend runs gentoo and he inputs the command emerge quake, can i do something like that?
[12:42] <lesliev> bye!
[12:43] <hyrax42> totem wont' let me set the option NOT to play stupid visualisations over audio files
[12:43] <hyrax42> I click, it resets the checkbox right away
[12:43] <Kyral> Then don't use Totem :P
[12:43] <hyrax42> well what do I use for just doube click type playing?
[12:43] <Kyral> XMMS?
[12:44] <Kyral> Beep Media Player?
[12:44] <hyrax42> booo
[12:44] <hyrax42> what's beep?
[12:44] <nalioth> sirri^: to solve your problem, you will have to dismantle the house marillat made for you
[12:44] <nalioth> sirri^: a piece at a time
[12:44] <seb128> do you use a backport?
[12:44] <kong0> ok nobody here has quake?
[12:44] <hyrax42> seb128: I think so
[12:44] <Kyral> another WINAMP look-a-like
[12:44] <seb128> somebody send a bug today about this
[12:44] <seb128> and closed it saying that's due to a backport version
[12:44] <Kyral> uses GTK2 rather than GTK1
[12:44] <seb128> try with the hoary version ...
[12:44] <hyrax42> hrmmmm
[12:44] <hyrax42> how can I "downgrade"
[12:45] <Kyral> I believe the package is beep-media-player
[12:45] <seb128> sudo apt-get install totem/hoary
[12:45] <hyrax42> will that remove the other?
[12:45] <JonA> kong0: Which Quake?
[12:45] <seb128> it will downgrade to the hoary version, yep
[12:45] <kong0> hmm i guess the latest
[12:46] <JonA> kong0: Quake 1?
[12:46] <kong0> i want 2
[12:46] <Kyral> its fine when skinned out...
[12:46] <kong0> if there are any players on the internet anymore that is...
[12:46] <^thehatsrule^> no i like it Kyral
[12:46] <sirri^> nalioth, they made a big house of doom for me. I see couple of options, 1) blow the whole house and rebuild it 2) wait for next ubuntu release to upgrade packages or 3) get packages from debian unstable, try to work it out and then revert to option number 1. No other options?
[12:47] <Kyral> Linux is all about choices :D
[12:47] <JonA> kong0: Can't really help you with Quake 2, there is a fine Quake 1 distribution (engine, datafiles, GPLed textures etc) at equake.quakeworld.nu. If you try the forums on quakeworld.nu, they might be able to help you with Quake 2.
[12:47] <sirri^> nalioth, and it can't be done. Packages such as sysvinit and ubuntu-base depend on e2fslibs indirectly.
[12:47] <asadf> finally
[12:47] <kong0> ok thx
[12:47] <xooooz> so many choices that you may end up exhausted
[12:47] <asadf> i see an os up
[12:47] <hyrax42> seb128: gives error
[12:47] <seb128> what error?
[12:47] <nalioth> sirri^: sounds like you have it well in hand
[12:48] <hyrax42> unmet dependencies
[12:48] <nalioth> sirri^: this is why backports and marillat are not advised
[12:48] <hyrax42> E: Broken packages
[12:49] <hyrax42> if they're not advised, why are they advised?
[12:49] <TokenBad> no one knows anything about the unstable repository and what its url might be?
[12:49] <hyrax42> at least backports
[12:49] <nalioth> hyrax42: the wiki is open to all writers
[12:49] <Kyral> backports is safe....
[12:49] <asadf> yo guys
[12:49] <hyrax42> how else can one play mp3
[12:49] <Burgundavia> TokenBad, mixing debian and ubuntu sources is bad
[12:49] <seb128> hyrax42: what packages?
[12:49] <asadf> how come i cant make my screen resolution higher than 800x6000
[12:49] <concept10> nalioth, i need your help brother
[12:50] <TokenBad> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/2005/06/msg01347.html
[12:50] <nalioth> hyrax42: got my mp3 stuff from multivers/universe
[12:50] <asadf> how come i cant make my screen resolution higher than 800x600 i mean
[12:50] <Kyral> Hyrax: Beep, Rhythm Box
[12:50] <TokenBad> its just a screen saver
[12:50] <refuze2looze> asadf: your xorg.conf file is most likely not configured correctly
[12:50] <sirri^> nalioth, I understand that backports suck and was amazed to see it as a official project of ubuntu. It seems to be very much in conflict with ubuntu idea and doesn't do any good. I used marillat due to decoders and such, it worked with debian (if I remember correctly) so I saw no problem using it.
[12:50] <Mobius> asadf what graphics card do you have?
[12:50] <TokenBad> and thats the info posted to me about it being uploaded to unstable repository
[12:50] <asadf> thats why
[12:50] <asadf> its a crpa one
[12:50] <asadf> nm
[12:50] <asadf> i made a computer from donated parts
[12:50] <asadf> lol
[12:50] <asadf> this ubuntu looks neat
[12:51] <nalioth> sirri^: in the future, enable the "off" repos, get what you need and disable them
[12:51] <sirri^> nalioth, I'll do that. Thanks for your tips
[12:52] <concept10> I installed Ubuntu on my sisters computer but grub didnt detect her Windows XP partition.  How do I log onto her computer so I may edit her grub?  I havent used ssh over internet, just local networks
[12:52] <nalioth> sirri^: another way is to build from source (using apt-get)
[12:52] <asadf> yo
[12:52] <asadf> when i change my repositories to universe
[12:53] <Bols> hi, is there a way to prevent a module from being loaded at boot, plz?
[12:53] <asadf> do i change the CD ubuntu binary
[12:53] <asadf> or just the ubuntu binary?
[12:53] <nalioth> asadf: dont bother with the CD line
[12:53] <asadf> ok
[12:53] <nalioth> asadf: unless you want to disable it
[12:53] <Kyral> How do you built Apt-Get stuff from source anyway?
[12:53] <nalioth> asadf: it wont hurt anything
[12:53] <sirri^> nalioth, right. Gotta get some sleep, it's been a long day. Good night
[12:53] <dajar__> yey ssh works
[12:53] <Kyral> I know there are two options, but I don't know how to use them
[12:53] <nalioth> Kyral: "sudo apt-get source -b <pkgname>"
[12:53] <dajar__> :)
[12:53] <dajar__> thanks all
[12:54] <dajar__> next on the list - ftp server
[12:54] <Kyral> so, in theory, you could start with a server install, and compile from source?
[12:54] <nalioth> Kyral: yes
[12:54] <rlklee> Hey, I've got a DVD problem, anyone interested in helping out (if able)?
[12:54] <Kyral> and all the depends would compile from source too?
[12:54] <xooooz> /lastlog Kyral
[12:55] <nalioth> Kyral: there are two steps
[12:55] <nalioth> Kyral: one: "sudo apt-get build-dep <pkgname>"
[12:55] <Kyral> 'cause yanno, I'm bored, and I may try this on my next reinstall :D
[12:55] <nalioth> Kyral: then the other line
[12:55] <Kyral> niiiiice
[12:56] <rlklee> Libdvdcss2 *is* installed, and the players I've tried play all the way through the first DVD chapter and then claim either to be unable to play onwards due to either my no haing the priviledges to play it, or due to my trying to play an encrypted dvd w/o libdvdcss2 installed.
[12:56] <hyrax42> hrm
[12:56] <hyrax42> I think I screwed up my install then
[12:57] <Kyral> Welcome to Linux :P
[12:57] <ChinaCatJones> what do I need to do after I do a full system restore to get back on track, I am having all sorts of little problems
[12:58] <hyrax42> seb128: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:58] <hyrax42>   totem: Depends: totem-gstreamer (= 1.0.1-0ubuntu1) but 1.1.1-0ubuntu3~5.04ubp1  is to be installed or
[12:58] <hyrax42>                   totem-xine (= 1.0.1-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be instal led
[12:58] <hyrax42> E: Broken packages
[12:58] <hyrax42> so what's my recourse if I polluted it with backports?
[12:58] <Kyral> funny
[12:58] <hyrax42> I don't have any particular attachment
[12:58] <seb128> apt-get install totem-<version>/hoary
[12:58] <Kyral> I enabled Backports immediately and I never had any problems
[12:59] <hyrax42> well the totem in backports is the broke
[12:59] <Kyral> heck, I use backports-staging
[12:59] <davidmccabe> Hi folks.
[12:59] <davidmccabe> I'm trying to get a recent mono on hoary in the safest way possible. I tried adding a backports repository, but then it wants to upgrade a whole bunch of other stuff that I'm not sure if I want or not.
[01:00] <davidmccabe> because I don't, in general, want to run untested stuff.
[01:00] <davidmccabe> any pointers on *selectively* installing newer stuff? thanks!
[01:00] <Kyral> I broke Beagle somehow lol
[01:00] <Kyral> not that I need it, locate works fine :D
[01:00] <nalioth> davidmccabe: enable whatever repos you want, get your stuff, and then comment the repos back out
[01:00] <hyrax42> davidmccabe: you don't want to upgrade from backports :)
[01:01] <hyrax42> or at least I don't
[01:01] <hyrax42> before I know wtf I'm doing
[01:01] <davidmccabe> nalioth: oh, and it won't screw things up when those repos disappear? neat.
[01:01] <hyrax42> :/
[01:01] <rlklee> Does anybody have any clue as to my DVD playing issue?
[01:01] <davidmccabe> another question: If I want to compile a program from CVS, do I need to tell APT anything about that?
[01:01] <davidmccabe> like, on gentoo, I have to put that package name in /etc/portage/packages.provided.
[01:01] <hyrax42> what is a regexp that could get just the directory path from a full filename?
[01:01] <davidmccabe> just use dirname, hyrax.
[01:02] <hyrax42> ah, there we go :)
[01:02] <hyrax42> thanks
[01:02] <TokenBad> can someone look at this page and tell me if you can see how I am supposed to use apt-get to get the file: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/2005/06/msg01347.html
[01:02] <ChinaCatJones> cvs operate independent of cvs, i believe
[01:02] <nalioth> davidmccabe: if you compile your own stuff, i advise you to check a progrem called "checkinstall"
[01:02] <Kyral> Any idea when Colony 2 is coming out?
[01:02] <nalioth> davidmccabe: it makes debs (to keep your system in order)
[01:02] <davidmccabe> backports is unauthenticated. that's normal, right?
[01:02] <Kyral> yah
[01:03] <hyrax42> ok so I want to do locate .mp3 and send that to dirname and then to sort -u
[01:03] <hyrax42> pipe on the first doesn't work though
[01:03] <dajar__> is there an ftp server with a gui?
[01:03] <hyrax42> is there a find like --exec?
[01:04] <nalioth> TokenBad: ya got all your src repos enabled?
[01:04] <TokenBad> yeah but it just downloads the 2.5 version
[01:04] <Thanatermesis> what are the version of libc6 used in ubuntu ?
[01:04] <TokenBad> it don't see the 2.6.2 version
[01:05] <nalioth> TokenBad: i don't know anything about the different levels of repo
[01:05] <Thanatermesis> any person like to are a beta-tester for the packages of E17 ? (from debian originally)
[01:05] <nalioth> TokenBad: perhaps its for breezy?
[01:05] <TokenBad> no its debian..
[01:05] <ChinaCatJones> dajar- I use vsftpd and manage it through webmin
[01:05] <Thanatermesis> I need to adapt my packages for ubuntu users
[01:05] <sly> dajr................. good question
[01:05] <sly> from leeds ?
[01:05] <dajar__> yeah
[01:05] <nalioth> Thanatermesis: check out #ubuntu-motr
[01:05] <dajar__> webmin
[01:05] <Thanatermesis> motr?
[01:05] <Thanatermesis> ok
[01:06] <dajar__> how easy is that to install?
[01:06] <asadf> to is it safe to put a wubwoofer ear the computer tower?
[01:06] <nalioth> crap
[01:06] <sly> <--------- Sheffield :)
[01:06] <fus3> ?
[01:06] <asadf> sub*
[01:06] <Thanatermesis> o_O
[01:06] <nalioth> Thanatermesis: sorry, #ubuntu-motu
[01:06] <Thanatermesis> oh
[01:06] <PoopinClumpin> asadf, as long as it doesnt vibrate enough to shake the hard drives
[01:06] <dajar__> lol
[01:06] <dajar__> nice
[01:07] <dajar__> im just trying to set up a simple server for a couple of us
[01:07] <dajar__> the last thing on the list is ftp
[01:07] <rodimus> guys, i really like to get to learn linux, i heard ubuntu is a fine first choice
[01:07] <rodimus> is that true
[01:07] <rodimus> and will it run on my 333 mhz 192 ram?
[01:07] <hyrax42> ok... what is the benejit of backports
[01:07] <hyrax42> then
[01:07] <hyrax42> ?
[01:07] <dajar__> ive installed a server
[01:07] <hyrax42> I'm confused
[01:07] <dajar__> i just have no idea how to configure it
[01:07] <dajar__> or how to start it
[01:07] <sly> good westion bout server gui i wouldnt mind one
[01:07] <dajar__> inded
[01:07] <PoopinClumpin> rodimus, yeah, but it will be slow
[01:07] <cthulfuego> rodimus: Yes, but Gnome might be a bit slow. There are other window managers that will run fine, though.
[01:07] <dajar__> im loving unbuntu
[01:08] <sly> great stuff indeed
[01:08] <rodimus> thats too bad
[01:08] <dajar__> i ordered 2000 disks for my college and had a linux day
[01:08] <nalioth> rodimus: run just fine on that hardware
[01:08] <dajar__> gave them all out
[01:08] <rodimus> hmm
[01:08] <mbirkis> it isn't that difficult to set up a ftp server without gui...
[01:08] <dajar__> had demonstrations
[01:08] <rodimus> you all say different things, i mean, gnome is the most fancy one
[01:08] <sly> our lass is in bed at side of me................................ imavin type type slow/quiet
[01:08] <cthulfuego> apt-get install proftpd; done
[01:08] <dajar__> mbirkis ive never done it before
[01:08] <rodimus> and i like to keep it fancy ;)
[01:08] <rodimus> but you all believe gnome will run slow on it?
[01:08] <nalioth> mbirkis: not really, as long as ya got a text editor
[01:08] <sly> aint proftpd got any gui frontends ?
[01:08] <cthulfuego> rodimus: Yes.
[01:09] <mbirkis> dajar__: look for guides on google... it is great learning
[01:09] <nalioth> rodimus: not so, KDE is much more fancy than gnome
[01:09] <cthulfuego> rodimus: Gnome likes lots of ram and a fast cpu.
[01:09] <rodimus> and kde is faster than gnome?
[01:09] <cthulfuego> sly: wtf would you need a gui?
[01:09] <nalioth> rodimus: nope, it requires more power
[01:09] <cthulfuego> rodimus: No, KDE is much of a muchness.
[01:09] <PoopinClumpin> i believe the default ubuntu install will run slw on it. im sure there are many ways to increase the performance on a 333mhz box
[01:10] <rodimus> ah , can one choose among these when installing?
[01:10] <cthulfuego> rodimus: if you install with the 'server' boot parameter it will install only the basics and you cana dd whatever you like.
[01:10] <rodimus> i have no clue how to tweak linux so i hoped it would run pretty ok from the start
[01:10] <sly> how about for pure easyness of my girlfriend running it ............... just cos most of us can use text editors , not every one can
[01:10] <nalioth> rodimus: you'll be fine
[01:11] <rodimus> does the live cd give a decent impression of ubuntu?
[01:11] <PoopinClumpin> rodimus, it will run, and you will be able to use it. but a faster processor and more ram would be needed to get good performance
[01:11] <cthulfuego> rodimus: Yes, except that running Gnome off a CD is a LOT slower again ;-)
[01:11] <Thanatermesis> any person like to are a beta-tester for the packages of E17 ? (from debian originally)
[01:11] <Thanatermesis> I need to adapt my packages for ubuntu users if any ubuntu user are interessed
[01:11] <PoopinClumpin> if you dont mind waiting a split second for dropdown menus and cmboboxes to appear then you wont have a problem
[01:11] <rodimus> damn, win xp runs fine, i thought ubuntu would run even faster
[01:11] <flankk> rodimus, the live cd gave me such a good impression, i put racing stripes over the windows logo on my box.
[01:12] <rodimus> flankk: really? i've downlaoded the live cd, gonna burn it in the morning and try it out
[01:12] <PoopinClumpin> rodimus, every machine is different though. you should probably just try it out and see how it works before you start making choices
[01:13] <rodimus> poopin: guess it takes a while to switch over completly
[01:13] <flankk> rodimus, the neat thing about a live cd, is you are actually using a full-blown linux system, but a lot slower :)
[01:13] <rodimus> i tried out lighter live cd's like dsl and feather
[01:13] <flankk> rodimus, how much ram do you have?
[01:14] <rodimus> but they werent too much eye candy
[01:14] <rodimus> 192
[01:14] <ChinaCatJones>  I am having a post recovery nightmare, I reinstalled ubuntu and then untarred my backup file, and now everything is wonky
[01:14] <flankk> rodimus, it should run fine
[01:14] <fus3> 640k
[01:14] <rodimus> flannk: guess the only way is to try it out
[01:14] <rodimus> i heard installing programs is really simple on ubuntu
[01:15] <ChinaCatJones> someone please save me from myself
[01:15] <flankk> rodimus, naw, the way i did it was just format my drive and force-fed myself linux programs.  you get used to it after 2 months, then it actually is more convenient.
[01:16] <rodimus> flannk: are there any programs you miss having on linux that you had on xp?
[01:16] <Bols> where can I find the sources for my kernel, plz?
[01:16] <cthulfuego> Bols: After you install them they'll be in /usr/src
[01:17] <debugger> bob2, maybe this helps: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-kernel.en.html
[01:17] <flankk> rodimus, that's exactly what you think for the first two weeks; you're like, 'shit.. linux sux.. it has nothing that xp does' but if you force yourself to find ways around it, you will adapt fine.. there are alternative for -everything- nowadays.  most people have just become so attached to ms
[01:17] <robertj> useful yes, but convenient is stretching it unless your compiling lots of exotic stuff
[01:17] <robertj> flankk: What's the iDVD alternative?
[01:17] <cthulfuego> rodimus: it's got office, gimp and a shell. What else do people need?
[01:17] <robertj> flankk: or the Age of Kings alternative?
[01:18] <flankk> robertj, if a system that can do everything automated however -you- want isn't convenience, then you define the term.
[01:18] <rodimus> hmm, well im gonna miss jeskola buzz tracker in that case
[01:18] <cthulfuego> rodimus: WinXP doesn't have iDVD either and the windows dvd software is *shit*
[01:18] <rodimus> although i heard someone had succeded in installing it on linux
[01:18] <robertj> flankk: convenience is doing what you want in a fashion that doesn't impede your lifestyle
[01:18] <rodimus> cthul: i didnt write that idvd thing though :)
[01:18] <refuze2looze> don't want to start another big argument, but i still think photoshop is better than the gimp..
[01:18] <cthulfuego> rodimus: No, tab went wrong
[01:19] <rodimus> ah
[01:19] <robertj> flankk: so, yes, God willing I could perhaps devote my life to learning about the dev process and round up an OSS possy, and create gDVD, but it wouldn't be convenient
[01:19] <cthulfuego> refuze2looze: it is for professionals, but not for hiome users who edit the odd digital photo for the web
[01:19] <rodimus> ohwell thanks guys, im gonna try out the live cd, see if i like it
[01:19] <ChinaCatJones> flankk, I am realitive newbie to linux, but I forced myself to keep with it for a couple of weeks, and the first time logged back into XP I was thinking what a clunker
[01:19] <robertj> refuze: yeah it is IMO, but its not got the gap that iDVD and...whatever it is have
[01:19] <Bols> cthulfuego, I know it, but I have no internet connection on my ubuntu, so I would like to download these sources linux-source-2.6.8.1-3-386, do you know where I can find this pkg?
[01:20] <refuze2looze> cthulfuego, i use it mostly for webdesign, among other things..
[01:20] <robertj> Cupid is umm, not quite there yet.
[01:20] <rodimus> cheers, sleep tight all
[01:20] <cthulfuego> refuze2looze: Then the only advantage photoshop has fo you is that you know where menu items are.
[01:20] <cthulfuego> refuze2looze: Gimp does *all* the same things; just works slightly different;y.
[01:20] <GNULinuxer_> bob2> hi
[01:21] <refuze2looze> cthulfuego, only more than slightly
[01:21] <cthulfuego> Bols: pool/l/linux-* - hceck on the ftp/http server.
[01:21] <nalioth> refuze2looze: if you like the menu placement of Photoshop, try gimpshop
[01:21] <GNULinuxer_> bob2> you there?
[01:21] <cthulfuego> refuze2looze: Only not.
[01:21] <refuze2looze> nalioth, i've tried it, it's prtty cool
[01:21] <robertj> cthul: Photoshop does have features the GIMP does regarding colorspaces and other such I know nothing about
[01:22] <robertj> but they are important to serious pre-press types
[01:22] <robertj> cthul: but thats water under the bridge compared to some of the other things that are missing
[01:22] <Bols> cthulfuego, thx
[01:22] <cthulfuego> refuze2looze: You don't _need_ colourspaces for web design.
[01:22] <robertj> And the big stuff that is happening, people don't notice
[01:22] <robertj> Is anyone besides me following Avahi?
[01:22] <refuze2looze> nalioth, only i had the incorrect version of libc in order to use it so i installed a version from sid and broke my linux installation
[01:23] <dsmith-texas> hey, does anyone know if audigy 2 works with ubuntu?
[01:23] <robertj> dsmith: i'm pretty sure as long as its an internal
[01:23] <robertj> not sure on that, but I think you are ok
[01:23] <dsmith-texas> i tired live cd and it didnt work
[01:23] <Luddite> anyone ever used the driverloader software for Ubuntu
[01:23] <dsmith-texas> it looked like the drivers were loaded, but no sound
[01:24] <refuze2looze> cthulfuego, i don't know what it is.. maybe it is because i've been using photoshop for 5 years and gimp for less than 1 year
[01:24] <Luddite> hey dsmith? you ever used driverloader
[01:24] <dsmith-texas> nope
[01:24] <LinuxJones> dsmith-texas, you checked your volume settings/mute controls ?
[01:24] <okaaay> Hey, what luck.. Heard someone mention freenode, and I thought "hey, maybe there's an ubuntu-channel there". Goodie.
[01:24] <dsmith-texas> i am new to linux
[01:24] <dsmith-texas> ya
[01:24] <refuze2looze> cthulfuego, btw, dreamworks studios runs linux but uses photoshop via vmware
[01:24] <dsmith-texas> i tried all that
[01:24] <Funraiser> do you guys think that now that Apples will run on intel processors there will be a lot of pirated Mac OS X out there? (in torrents and stuff)
[01:24] <cthulfuego> refuze2looze: I by far prefer photoshop too, but functionality wise they're pretty much on par for non-print work. Notable exception being my gimp doesn't like non-72-dpi TIFFs.
[01:24] <dsmith-texas> there was a simtel audio device on there
[01:25] <nalioth> refuze2looze: hmm, mine compiled just fine (but i'm on ppc)
[01:25] <okaaay> Anyone got any experience installing an ATI-card (in my case, radeon X800XT) with (k)ubuntu? Got some problems(..).
[01:25] <dsmith-texas> but i dont have anything like that
[01:25] <LinuxJones> Funraiser, no
[01:25] <QMario> Do any of you guys know how to install XRMS?
[01:25] <Funraiser> LinuxJones, it doesn't change anything about piracy?
[01:25] <Luddite> I tried installing it but it says it can't find my kernel sources and headers
[01:25] <robertj> there is also a #kubuntu
[01:25] <dsmith-texas> my ati radeon worked fine, 9600 pro
[01:25] <okaaay> There is? Oh. How nice. (:
[01:25] <Luddite> and i even looked in the dir and they were there
[01:25] <okaaay> Well, more people here.
[01:26] <refuze2looze> Funraiser, there already are pirated versions of Mac OS X out there
[01:26] <dsmith-texas> is kubunti for k desktop
[01:26] <okaaay> kde, yeah
[01:26] <ChinaCatJones> Funraiser- The first thing I thought when I saw OS-X was M$ is screwed if they ever port to x86
[01:26] <Funraiser> refuze2looze,  i know but one needs the machine too, right?
[01:26] <dsmith-texas> ;errm
[01:26] <robertj> refuze: I haven't seen any credible evidence of that
[01:26] <okaaay> Well, I'll type, and if you know anything, just respond.
[01:26] <dsmith-texas> does anyone here actually run an audigy2 under ubuntu?
[01:26] <LinuxJones> Funraiser, why would it. Apple software will still only run their chosen hardware and they will likely impose DRM to prohibit just that.
[01:26] <refuze2looze> Funraiser, yeah. if you're asking whether the x86 version of Mac OS will most likely be hacked in order to run on non-macintosh hardware, my guess would be yes
[01:27] <robertj> Refuze: I'd give it 2 more weeks, they said Developers wouldn't get their machines for 2 weeks from the day of the keynote
[01:27] <ChinaCatJones> Funraiser- I haven't heard that it was going to be a move to x86 nesecarilly, maybe intel build ppc for them or a new chip family
[01:27] <Funraiser> ohhh
[01:27] <Bols> cthulfuego, linux-source-2.6.8.1_2.6.8.1-16_all.deb << does it mean that this pkg contains all the sources from 2.6.8.1 to 2.6.8.1-16 ?
[01:27] <robertj> China: I think its pretty safe to say they will be x86
[01:28] <refuze2looze> robertj, credible evidence of what?
[01:28] <okaaay> I've followed most guides I've been able to find, and nothing has worked. What I just saw though was that even when I ran fglrxconfig and set my monitor to use 1280x1024 res, it reverts to 1600x1200, wich I set manualy earlier. It seems as though it doesnt even load the xorg.conf file.
[01:28] <dsmith-texas> audigy2 soundcards, anyone?
[01:28] <robertj> They said there is no technical reason it wouldn't run XP and that they weren't going to make any effort to impede that
[01:28] <robertj> refuze: that OSX86 is out yet
[01:28] <robertj> dsmith: check the wiki I suppose
[01:28] <Dj_AlTeK> ne1 know how to install steam onto a linux system??
[01:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm trying to comple wineCVS anyone know what the heck a c header is and how to get?
[01:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> you need cedega to do that
[01:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and steam runs awsome
[01:29] <Dj_AlTeK> is it free?
[01:29] <Davey> no
[01:29] <Dj_AlTeK> >.>
[01:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> unfortunatly not
[01:29] <Dj_AlTeK> can I use Wine?
[01:29] <dsmith-texas> does anyone know if there is a hardware compatibility list for ubuntu?
[01:29] <okaaay> What has happend before  (and still is) is that it's giving me an errormessage when I type fglrxinfo.. Something like Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". And on no forums have I found an answer to this message.
[01:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm not shure i never tryed it as i was tld it's more
[01:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> for applications
[01:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> than games
[01:30] <refuze2looze> robertj, i never said that os x on x86 was out yet, although steve jobs did announce that they had it running on x86 chips for years
[01:30] <nalioth> dsmith-texas: linux hardware compatability list will do
[01:30] <thenuke> I think steam needs cedega
[01:30] <thenuke> instead of wine
[01:30] <dsmith-texas> where can i get one?
[01:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can anyone tell me how to get the c headers for the x i686 kernal so i can comple wine?
[01:30] <dsmith-texas> i got a good pc (alienware)
[01:30] <nalioth> dsmith-texas: not sure, but you can google it
[01:31] <dsmith-texas> but want to drop ms...
[01:31] <dsmith-texas> ok
[01:31] <dsmith-texas> thanks
[01:31] <robertj> 	refuze2looze	Funraiser, there already are pirated versions of Mac OS X out there
[01:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> alienware ::::DROOL:::::::
[01:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thats like the caddelac of the pc systems
[01:31] <vinux> ChurcH_of_FoamY, too pricey for me
[01:31] <refuze2looze> robertj, i just said that 5 minutes ago..
[01:31] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i can build my own 'cadillac'
[01:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i found that falcon northwest makes some nice systems too
[01:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> same i have built every computer i have ever owend
[01:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's much more price effciant and i know exactly whats in there
[01:32] <vinux> ChurcH_of_FoamY, yea I will build my system next time
[01:32] <ChinaCatJones> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I got it one piece at a time and it didn't cost me a dime
[01:32] <gek> id rather have a sweet little shuttle box
[01:32] <gek> and a big lcd
[01:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> most of my stuff diden't cost either
[01:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i want an lcd my self
[01:33] <okaaay> Seems no die-hard nerds are here to answer my questions. ):
[01:33] <vinux> ChurcH_of_FoamY, I'm going to build a AMD 64bit 3000 with a gig of ram
[01:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> just can't afford one now
[01:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nice very nice
[01:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i made the mistake of building a p4 system
[01:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what shitty performance in games
[01:34] <vinux> ChurcH_of_FoamY, that's what I got now
[01:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i shoulda listend to my instinct and went amd and nvidia all the way
[01:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i have like 2 gigs of 800mhz rambus in it
[01:34] <black-whisp> ChurcH_of_Foamy: are you useing cedega for games?
[01:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but it's still laggy
[01:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes
[01:34] <vinux> ChurcH_of_FoamY, I got a Geforce 5900 XT it's works nice with wow
[01:34] <black-whisp> ChurcH_of_Foamy:
[01:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nice
[01:35] <nalioth> vinux: no smp amd64 machine?
[01:35] <black-whisp> ChurcH_of_Foamy: is it possible to get cedega for 64bit arch?
[01:35] <robertj> vinux: does it play nice with xcompmgr?
[01:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i have a gforce 5400mx and it's pritty nice
[01:35] <vinux> nalioth, what's smp?
[01:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes it is but i herd tell that it's not running at a full 64bit
[01:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and that 32bit apps have trouble in the enviroment
[01:35] <vinux> robertj, what's xcompmgr?
[01:36] <black-whisp> okay.. :S damn.. :) but still worth the try. :) i guess. :)
[01:36] <robertj> vinux: pretty window shadows and such ;)
[01:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so anyone answer my questions about compiling wineCVS"
[01:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i need some sorta c headers
[01:36] <robertj> you have to edit your xorg.conf file to enable composite, render, and damage, restart X, and then run xcompmgr from the command line with some flags
[01:36] <vinux> robertj, yea it's ok. Tolerable
[01:37] <robertj> you got it running?
[01:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm just stuck at this c header problem....and it's preventing me from finishing this
[01:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> install
[01:37] <Funraiser> someone knows why so far apple hasn't ported it's OS on x86? seems to me that it would be the best way to really compete against MS...(?)
[01:37] <vinux> robertj, oh wait no I thought you were talking about something else
[01:38] <refuze2looze> anybody else experience segmentation fault in firefox with the mplayer plugin?
[01:38] <vinux> robertj, I didn't do all that with X
[01:38] <Burgundavia> Funraiser, ummm, they have?
[01:38] <Funraiser> refuze2looze, i do
[01:38] <Burgundavia> Funraiser, and every version of OS X has run on x86
[01:38] <Zodiac> Hey guys
[01:38] <Burgundavia> just internally
[01:38] <Zodiac> My flash doesnt play sound
[01:38] <Zodiac> is that weird?
[01:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i know why
[01:38] <vinux> hey who has a 64 bit box in here?
[01:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i think i might be able to help you fix it
[01:39] <refuze2looze> Funraiser, it's freakin annoying.. have you figured out any way to solve it or any video player plugin that works ?
[01:39] <PoopinClumpin> me, vinux
[01:39] <Zodiac> I see
[01:39] <vinux> PoopinClumpin, hows the performance with ubuntu 64 bit?
[01:39] <refuze2looze> Funraiser, it's because Macintosh doesn't want to sell a stand alone operating system but a whole computer system
[01:39] <PoopinClumpin> vinux, i dont know, i have never used the 64 bit version
[01:39] <Funraiser> refuze2looze, it's weird, i have that problem on my laptop (ati drivers) but not on my desktop (nvidia drivers) dunno if there is a link or not...
[01:40] <nalioth> vinux: 2 amd64 3000 processors on the mobo
[01:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY>  :::DROOL::::
[01:40] <Dj_AlTeK> ne1 know where I can download point2play?
[01:40] <nalioth> vinux: or more.   smp = symetric multiprocessing
[01:40] <vinux> nalioth, your box?
[01:40] <Zodiac> Does anybody elses flash not play sound??
[01:40] <refuze2looze> Funraiser, that's weird.. i have the problem with crappy intel integrated graphics card
[01:40] <asadf> yo
[01:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> mine diden't
[01:40] <asadf> how can i check to see how much free space i have left on my hdd
[01:40] <nalioth> vinux: i'm fixin to build a dual-proc amd64 box
[01:40] <goldfish_> asadf: df -h
[01:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> then i went into a config and changed the version number
[01:40] <asadf> ?
[01:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> to 1.0.4
[01:40] <asadf> that means nothing to me lol
[01:40] <etacidnys> asadf: open a console
[01:40] <goldfish_> asadf: run that in a terminal
[01:41] <Zodiac> hmm
[01:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> abd now it works
[01:41] <vinux> nalioth, awsome! let me know how it works out :)
[01:41] <asadf> ok
[01:41] <likkashot> whats the best way ton costumize ubuntu , another way then themes
[01:41] <Zodiac> I think I have done that...
[01:41] <etacidnys> likkashot: gnome-look.org
[01:41] <etacidnys> likkashot: try there
[01:41] <nalioth> likkashot: with a text editoor
[01:41] <refuze2looze> Dj_AlTeK, isn't point2play commercial? even if you do download a pirated version you need a subscription for it to work
[01:41] <Zodiac> you mean in the about:config right?
[01:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thats odd i typed in for the url for mozilla "about:config
[01:41] <likkashot> I went there
[01:41] <Funraiser> refuze2looze, i had to watch the "war of the worlds" trailer on windows because of that...
[01:41] <black-whisp> hey what tool do you use for changing the theme of gnome?
[01:41] <likkashot> but I want to change my menu bar
[01:42] <vinux> robertj, I hope to have a 64bit system by christmas
[01:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and changed the version number from 1.0 to 1.0.4
[01:42] <Funraiser> refuze2looze, no u don't
[01:42] <asadf> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=16761
[01:42] <asadf> zoom into the pic
[01:42] <PoopinClumpin> vinux, i have used a couple of other 64 bit linux distros and they were very fast. probably 20% faster overall on the dekstop. and maybe twice as fast when encoding an mp3 or something processor intensive
[01:42] <Zodiac> Do you know the specific preference that I am supposed to change?
[01:42] <asadf> I want my ubuntu desktop like that!
[01:43] <asadf> how do i do it!
[01:43] <thechitowncubs> asadf: gdesklets
[01:43] <vinux> PoopinClumpin, nice
[01:43] <asadf> u wanna step me throgh man
[01:43] <asadf> please chito
[01:43] <refuze2looze> Funraiser, you don't need a subscription? i admit i tried using it a while ago but it needed a subscription.. don't really remember exactly
[01:43] <thechitowncubs> its easy
[01:43] <asadf> pm me
[01:43] <thechitowncubs> google gdesklets
[01:43] <thechitowncubs> pm me
[01:43] <vinux> PoopinClumpin, hey you think a AMD 64bit 3000 would be ok for a desktop? I don't really run games anymore
[01:43] <etacidnys> hmm
[01:44] <PoopinClumpin> yeah vinux
[01:44] <Zodiac> Church of foam, do you know what preference it is?
[01:44] <PoopinClumpin> mine is a 3200
[01:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmmm...
[01:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> let me think
[01:44] <odie5533> how do I add a folder to the path?
[01:44] <Zodiac> ok
[01:44] <vinux> PoopinClumpin, yea I like speed :)
[01:45] <nalioth> vinux: any amd64 is ok for a desktop, shseeesh
[01:45] <asadf> dude
[01:45] <vinux> nalioth, hehe yea I figured
[01:45] <asadf> thaT DF -H THING did nothing
[01:45] <asadf> it came up with screen for like half a secon
[01:45] <asadf> d
[01:45] <asadf> then closed
[01:46] <PoopinClumpin> try lower case letters
[01:46] <asadf> i did
[01:46] <vinux> nalioth, I got a 1.5ghz P4 , 512ram PC800 right now
[01:46] <asadf> shall i try not to run it in a terminal
[01:47] <Zodiac> Any luck foamy>
[01:47] <Zodiac> ?
[01:47] <asadf> is thier another way to find out how much hdd space you have left?
[01:47] <Ed_Gein> hey
[01:47] <nalioth> vinux: better then waht i have (hardware speaking)
[01:47] <fus3> 90% me
[01:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok i have the info pm me and i'll give it too oyu
[01:48] <nalioth> asadf: "apt-get install discus"
[01:48] <nalioth> asadf: and then run it in a terminal
[01:48] <Zodiac> oh poop, how do I pm?
[01:48] <fus3> what's pm? o_o
[01:48] <refuze2looze> asadf, df -k
[01:48] <Ed_Gein> Question about x and ubuntu. I just had to send my 6800 gt off for an rma and replaced it with a 5700 ultra. Do I need to manualy  reconfigure x or will ubuntu take care of that for me?
[01:48] <vinux> I think I got only 6% full on hardrive space hehe and I got a 40gig
[01:49] <asadf> nothing happened
[01:49] <asadf> it shows a screen for like a split second then disspears
[01:49] <Xappe> Zodiac: /msg <nick> <message>
[01:49] <odie5533> How do I add to the path?
[01:49] <Ed_Gein> Zodiac: "/msg username message "
[01:50] <Ed_Gein> permanent menstrual syndrome
[01:50] <asadf> none of those work
[01:50] <refuze2looze> asadf, you have to run the command from a terminal...
[01:50] <fus3> ?
[01:50] <fus3> ^_^
[01:50] <refuze2looze> asadf, open a terminal and type df in there
[01:51] <Ed_Gein> Question about x and ubuntu. I just had to send my 6800 gt off for an rma and replaced it with a 5700 ultra. Do I need to manualy  reconfigure x or will ubuntu take care of that for me?
[01:51] <asadf> wow
[01:51] <asadf> a screen shwos up for like a second
[01:51] <asadf> then goes away
[01:51] <asadf> I type df in run application right?
[01:51] <refuze2looze> asadf, did you read what i told you? run the command in a terminal
[01:51] <Funraiser> damn the icetea is still warm
[01:51] <asadf> I did!
[01:51] <Ed_Gein> asadf: open a terminal
[01:51] <refuze2looze> asadf, no you didn't, you ran it from run application
[01:52] <nalioth> asadf: open a terminal (applicatons > system tools > terminal
[01:52] <asadf> ok
[01:52] <asadf> i agot amit@ubuntu $ w/e
[01:52] <asadf> then what
[01:52] <vinux> Ed_Gein, too be honest I only had that problem in Suse I think and it reconfigured it for me
[01:52] <kong0> aww man u got ice tea?
[01:53] <asadf> then what?
[01:53] <kong0> im so dmn thirsty....
[01:53] <GNULinuxer_> asadf> df -h
[01:53] <Funraiser> kong0, home-made
[01:53] <Ed_Gein> vinux: I'm afraid to boot into ubuntu. Don't want to screw anything up
[01:53] <kong0> suger and lemon?
[01:53] <quicoju> hi! i got trouble burning with cdrecord in my ubuntu i'm using kernel 2.6
[01:53] <asadf> ./dev/sdal
[01:54] <asadf> is that the one?
[01:54] <kong0> Funraiser..where do you live?
[01:54] <Funraiser> kong0, , 1 gallon of tea + sugar + fridge
[01:54] <sly> asdf
[01:54] <sly> sly@DarkStar:~$ df -h
[01:54] <sly> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[01:54] <sly> /dev/hdd1              37G  6.5G   28G  19% /
[01:54] <vinux> Ed_Gein, me personally I would reinstalled the nvidia drivers. In windows it reset it for me but it was using a driver that handled all the Geforce cards. Now if the linux one is the same then you have nothing to fear
[01:54] <sly> that simple
[01:54] <Funraiser> kong0, france
[01:54] <kong0> dmn to far away....im in sweden
[01:54] <GNULinuxer_> asadf> kya problem hain amit?
[01:54] <asadf> thanks guys
[01:54] <quicoju> has anyone heard about issues of cdrecord and kernel 2.6?
[01:54] <GNULinuxer_> quicoju> what issues?
[01:55] <Funraiser> did someone install the new kernel?
[01:55] <Ed_Gein> cdrecord has issues with everything
[01:55] <GNULinuxer_> quicoju> the technique is different
[01:55] <fus3> quicoju:  cdrecord + 2.6 = ok
[01:55] <quicoju> GNULinuxer_: how is it?
[01:55] <kong0> i reeeaaally gotta get ice tea into this house....
[01:55] <Ed_Gein> nero to the rescue
[01:55] <fus3> quicoju:  I am sure.
[01:55] <GNULinuxer_> quicoju> instead of 0,0,0,  you use /dev/hdc
[01:56] <asadf> what category would gdesklets be in on the package manager?
[01:56] <GNULinuxer_> asadf> just search
[01:56] <goldfish_> asadf: just do a search for it
[01:56] <Ed_Gein> lol
[01:56] <quicoju> GNULinuxer_: okay i'll try, thanx
[01:56] <GNULinuxer_> quicoju> np
[01:57] <Ed_Gein> Has anyone here tried Nero for inux yet?
[01:57] <Ed_Gein> linux*
[01:57] <GNULinuxer_> Ed_Gein> it's non-free
[01:57] <Ed_Gein> I know
[01:57] <vinux> Disk usage(QUANTUM FIREBALLP AS40.0): 2.0/35.3 GB (6%) <---- This is what i'm using right now
[01:57] <Ed_Gein> that wasn't the question
[01:57] <Funraiser> Ed_Gein, i did
[01:57] <GNULinuxer_> Ed_Gein> we don't use non free sw
[01:57] <Ed_Gein> Funraiser: What did you htink?
[01:57] <fus3> nero for linux ( It must be free)
[01:58] <Funraiser> I found that i could only burn on cd-rw not on cd-r for some reason...
[01:58] <GNULinuxer_> fus3> it's now
[01:58] <Ed_Gein> hmmm
[01:58] <fus3> + GPL
[01:58] <PoopinClumpin> Ed_Gein, i have tried the nero linux and it's ok. but i prefer cdrecord
[01:58] <Funraiser> Ed_Gein, so i'm using k3b unless i need to convert mp3s
[01:58] <GNULinuxer_> fus3> you can download it if and only if you have a valid license for the win version
[01:58] <Sly> i had a similer prob with k3b.. would only burn +r dvdr not -r
[01:58] <asadf> i marked them for installation
[01:58] <asadf> now what
[01:58] <GNULinuxer_> asadf> apply
[01:58] <quicoju> great it's working! thank you
[01:58] <Ed_Gein> apply
[01:59] <GNULinuxer_> quicoju> buy me a beer
[01:59] <Ed_Gein> mmmm beer
[01:59] <Ed_Gein> thats a grand idea
[01:59] <fus3> nero non-free -> GPL for linux -> oss's nero -> nero abandon
[01:59] <Sly> ^ lmao
[01:59] <GNULinuxer_> Ed_Gein> yep ... guinnes
[01:59] <fus3> ^_^
[01:59] <Ed_Gein> mmmmm
[01:59] <quicoju> GNULinuxer_: you got it man!
[02:00] <GNULinuxer_> quicoju> FedEx it to me
[02:00] <Ed_Gein> Sweetwater Exodus Porter here
[02:00] <GNULinuxer_> quicoju> forget the beer ... even if you mail me a letter i will be happy :)
[02:00] <mdipi> Hey guys, can anyone know how I can mount my OSX partition into ubuntu?
[02:00] <quicoju> i heard that i don't need de scsi simulation in kernel 2.6 but when i run xcdroast it says that i need it.
[02:00] <Zodiac> Guys, my flash player does not play sound... what is the dilly>
[02:00] <mdipi> *tell me how
[02:00] <quicoju> how is that?
[02:01] <fus3> quicoju:  yes
[02:01] <GNULinuxer_> quicoju> it's really not needed in 2.6
[02:01] <Ed_Gein> mdipi: did you check ubuntuguide.org?
[02:01] <asadf> ok now how do i load the program/ or where would i find it?
[02:01] <mdipi> Ed_Gein, nope, I'll look there now, i didnt even know that site, thanks for the tip =D
[02:01] <GNULinuxer_> asadf> do you understand hindi?
[02:01] <nalioth> mdipi: you should ask me
[02:01] <fus3> quicoju:  it works
[02:01] <asadf> no
[02:01] <asadf> im indian though....
[02:01] <Funraiser> mdipi, it's not on ubuntuguide
[02:01] <GNULinuxer_> asadf> good
[02:01] <Ed_Gein> mdipi:ubunutguide is the bible
[02:02] <Funraiser> mdipi, what's the filesystem?
[02:02] <GNULinuxer_> asadf> that's great ... you are an ABCD
[02:02] <Ed_Gein> sorry
[02:02] <asadf> LOL
[02:02] <asadf> you gotta be kidding me
[02:02] <asadf> lol
[02:02] <asadf> aneways
[02:02] <GNULinuxer_> asadf> why?
[02:02] <quicoju> fus3: but why does xcdroast tells i need the scsi simulatoin?
[02:02] <asadf> how do i find or load the program i jsut installed
[02:02] <fus3> quicoju:  mine is ok
[02:02] <Ed_Gein> what program?
[02:02] <GNULinuxer_> asadf> you are an indian and don't understand hindi?
[02:02] <fus3> quicoju:  atapi cd-rw
[02:02] <asadf> gdeskletsa
[02:03] <asadf> gdesklets
[02:03] <GNULinuxer_> asadf> start panel > accessories
[02:03] <fus3> quicoju:  no problem
[02:03] <quicoju> fus3: yes
[02:03] <GNULinuxer_> asadf> applications > accesories
[02:03] <nalioth> Ed_Gein: bite your tongue Ed_Gein> mdipi:ubunutguide is the bible  <<<that is patently false
[02:03] <GNULinuxer_> nalioth> true
[02:03] <fus3> quicoju:  you must be something wrong
[02:03] <GNULinuxer_> nalioth> that book is a farce
[02:04] <odie5533> What packages are being added for Breezy?
[02:04] <Ed_Gein> nalioth: why do you say that? THere is a plethora of information there
[02:04] <GNULinuxer_> odie5533> loads
[02:04] <quicoju> fus3: with the xcdroast config?
[02:04] <odie5533> Is there a list?
[02:04] <GNULinuxer_> Funraiser> may be ... but it misleads you
[02:04] <fus3> quicoju:  no
[02:04] <odie5533> Warty and Hoary are fairly packageless as I see it
[02:04] <GNULinuxer_> quicoju> use nautilus cd burner
[02:04] <fus3> quicoju:  no config
[02:04] <nalioth> Ed_Gein: and quite a lot of it is dead wrong
[02:04] <fus3> quicoju:  it just works
[02:04] <Funraiser> GNULinuxer_, misleads in what way?
[02:04] <quicoju> fus3: is it better?
[02:05] <GNULinuxer_> Funraiser> wrong info
[02:05] <fus3> quicoju:  what?
[02:05] <Ed_Gein> nalioth: I've never had a problem wiht any of the info found there
[02:05] <nalioth> Ed_Gein: then you are very luck
[02:05] <nalioth> y
[02:05] <GNULinuxer_> Funraiser> tells n00bs to use backports by default ... that's wrong
[02:05] <quicoju> fus3: nautilus interfase than xcdroast?
[02:05] <fus3> quicoju:  I have no problem in cdrecord ...
[02:05] <Ed_Gein> nalioth: better to be lucky than good
[02:05] <Ed_Gein> lol
[02:06] <fus3> quicoju:  cdroast ...ummm...bad bad bad
[02:06] <apprentice> is ubuntu nice?
[02:06] <GNULinuxer_> apprentice> it rocks!
[02:06] <apprentice> how old are you?
[02:06] <Ed_Gein> apprentice: it won't yell at you if thats what you mean
[02:06] <Funraiser> i think Ubuntu would not have gone that far without that guide, there might be mistakes but it's very useful for noobs IMHO
[02:06] <GNULinuxer_> apprentice> me?
[02:06] <apprentice> yeah
[02:06] <GNULinuxer_> apprentice> 21
[02:06] <fus3> apprentice:  ur +1
[02:07] <apprentice> im 17
[02:07] <sly> wow cool
[02:07] <GNULinuxer_> apprentice> why?
[02:07] <asadf> the damn weather one is mseed up
[02:07] <GNULinuxer_> apprentice> so?
[02:07] <asadf> it just shows a damn bar
[02:07] <quicoju> fus3: okay, i'll try the nautilus's burner, thanx
[02:07] <apprentice> ok GNULinuxer_: depending on your age i would try ubuntu or not
[02:07] <sly> i just tryed playing gta2 with cedega and i had to restart x to do anything
[02:07] <sly> coolw or what
[02:07] <GNULinuxer_> apprentice> lol
[02:07] <fus3> apprentice:  .... no thanks...
[02:07] <apprentice> the 70s punk collection?
[02:07] <GNULinuxer_> apprentice> i have 8 years experience in GNU/Linux
[02:07] <asadf> the gdesklets weather one doesnt display anything?
[02:07] <fus3> ?
[02:08] <GNULinuxer_> asadf> i can help you ... but won't
[02:08] <asadf> ok..
[02:08] <apprentice> ok i might try ubuntu
[02:08] <asadf> this is a help channel
[02:08] <viktor> hi.. can anyone help me with nfs? i have set up a nfs server on my other comp.. but when i try to mount it i get a permission denied on my local machine
[02:08] <apprentice> is it good with usb?
[02:08] <Ed_Gein> asadf: you probably have to read the directions
[02:08] <GNULinuxer_> apprentice> what usb device?
[02:08] <viktor> mount: 192.168.0.1:/ failed, reason given by server: tkomst nekas
[02:08] <asadf> thier aren any
[02:08] <apprentice> a web cam
[02:08] <GNULinuxer_> apprentice> sidewinder?
[02:08] <PoopinClumpin> there are no hand holding channels, but there are help channels
[02:08] <asadf> its just a damn bar
[02:08] <Funraiser> viktor, what guide did u follow for nfs?
[02:08] <GNULinuxer_> apprentice> flaky ... depends on the cam ... not the usb
[02:09] <GNULinuxer_> asadf> do some research
[02:09] <Ed_Gein> http://gdesklets.free.fr/board/
[02:09] <viktor> Funraiser, the one on their home
[02:09] <viktor> nfs.sourceforge.net
[02:09] <GNULinuxer_> Ed_Gein> asadf's problem is very trivial
[02:09] <viktor> homepage even
[02:09] <abbas> ./join debian.tr
[02:09] <Ed_Gein> GNULinuxer_: I know
[02:10] <GNULinuxer_> Ed_Gein> i don't understand why guys don't research ... they just want answers
[02:10] <PoopinClumpin> umm lazy
[02:10] <nalioth> the lazy sometimes become trollbait
[02:10] <Ed_Gein> he knows how to open a term now and use synaptic. That's a reasonable starting point
[02:10] <dicrapio> anyone here by any chance has a similar setup to this? laptop with pcmcia firewire card with an ipod connected through it
[02:10] <abbas> how can  root
[02:10] <GNULinuxer_> Ed_Gein> it's 05:40 here ... am i sitting here with sleepy eyes to answer idiotic q's?
[02:10] <abbas> paswwd error
[02:10] <Funraiser> viktor, how did u edit /etc/exports ?
[02:10] <exjinn> abbas sudo = root
[02:11] <viktor> Funraiser, yes.. and i edited hosts.deny and .allow
[02:11] <PoopinClumpin> dicrapio, my girlfriend uses that setup
[02:11] <Ed_Gein> GNULinuxer_Absolutely not
[02:11] <viktor> i have ALL:<myip> in allow and ALL:ALL in deny
[02:11] <abbas> yes i know bot it doesn't
[02:11] <abbas> yes i know but it doesn't
[02:11] <Ed_Gein> Although you have never helped me personally your dedication is greatly appreciated
[02:11] <exjinn> same password as your regular user
[02:11] <dicrapio> PoopinClumpin: do u know by any chance if the ipod recharges when she plugs it in or not?
[02:11] <Funraiser> viktor, are u sure about the IPs?
[02:11] <GNULinuxer_> dicrapio> it does
[02:12] <PoopinClumpin> dicrapio, only if its plugged in to power supply
[02:12] <viktor> Funraiser, yeah.. :P
[02:12] <Funraiser> viktor, the server is 2?
[02:12] <viktor> the server is 0.1
[02:12] <juxhi> how do i edit grub entris? what file shold i edit?
[02:12] <nalioth> !root
[02:12] <ubotu> [root]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:12] <asadf> ok i read
[02:12] <dicrapio> and is on a non-apple laptop?
[02:12] <Funraiser> viktor, and yours is 01?
[02:12] <asadf> peeople are getting displays and im not getting anething
[02:12] <exjinn> nalioth, neat trick :)
[02:12] <PoopinClumpin> i dont believe it charges thru the pcmcia adaptor
[02:12] <viktor> no mine is 0.2
[02:13] <Ed_Gein> asadf: did you check the link I posted?
[02:13] <Funraiser> viktor, what do u get with  rpcinfo -p ?
[02:13] <asadf> yes
[02:13] <dicrapio> hmm, cause when i plug mine it doesnt charge it actually uses the battery to keep it on, so im guessing isbecause is connected through pcmcia and not a port directly on the motherboard
[02:13] <apprentice> GNULinuxer_: so do i go with ubuntu
[02:13] <apprentice> cause i use slack now
[02:13] <asadf> do i have dl the candy display things?
[02:14] <GNULinuxer_> apprentice> try the livecd first
[02:14] <viktor> Funraiser, lots of stuff.. the things thats suposed to be on :)
[02:14] <vinux> apprentice, slackware is nice
[02:14] <GNULinuxer_> apprentice> then stick to slack
[02:14] <apprentice> u think?
[02:14] <GNULinuxer_> apprentice> does you web cam work on slack?
[02:14] <Ed_Gein> asadf: read man read Noone is going to hold your hand
[02:14] <Funraiser> viktor, did u type the line to auto mount on startup?
[02:14] <GNULinuxer_> apprentice> if it does, then 100% it will work on Ubuntu
[02:15] <viktor> Funraiser, nope
[02:15] <vinux> apprentice, I used slackware for a few years but now that's ubuntu is out I don't really see myself going back to slackware.
[02:15] <Sly> apprentce ..... if your happy the way slack installs things & everything works good why would u want to switch to ubuntu
[02:15] <apprentice> cause im bored
[02:15] <nalioth> apprentice: bored? install windoze
[02:15] <apprentice> i am on win right now
[02:15] <viktor> Funraiser, is writing ALL: 192.168.0.2 in allow and ALL:ALL in .deny the right way to do it?
[02:15] <GNULinuxer_> vinux> everybody has his own reasons of sticking to a stupid distro
[02:16] <Funraiser> viktor, no
[02:16] <Funraiser> lol
[02:16] <GNULinuxer_> apprentice> doesn your webcam work on slack?
[02:16] <Funraiser> hold on
[02:16] <apprentice> havent really tried
[02:16] <GNULinuxer_> apprentice> ans. my q
[02:16] <viktor> Funraiser, ok.. i read somewhere that it FIRST check allow.. and if it's not in allow it check deny.. and if it's in none it allow anyway
[02:16] <GNULinuxer_> apprentice> hah
[02:16] <brodmann> how do you become the owner of a folder
[02:16] <GNULinuxer_> apprentice> which make is it?
[02:16] <brodmann> i'm trying to delete a file
[02:16] <GNULinuxer_> brodmann> chown
[02:17] <viktor> brodmann, chown user:group /hi/hello
[02:17] <asadf> god
[02:17] <vinux> GNULinuxer_, lol well I don't think it was stupid but ubuntu has apt-get and seems to be stable from what I can see. So why build form source when you can apt-get :)
[02:17] <thenuke> brodmann: chown brodman:brodman folder
[02:17] <Ed_Gein> sudo rm -rf blah blah blah
[02:17] <GNULinuxer_> vinux> true
[02:17] <Funraiser> viktor, it's ok that way
[02:17] <GNULinuxer_> asadf> you want your solution?
[02:18] <dicrapio> k so is not the card
[02:18] <asadf> please
[02:18] <viktor> Funraiser, ok.. wonder whats wrong then :(
[02:18] <Ed_Gein> GNULinuxer_: do't give in
[02:18] <apprentice> im dont care im jjstu bored
[02:18] <Sly> got bored ?
[02:18] <Ed_Gein> don't give in*
[02:18] <Funraiser> viktor, did u reboot?
[02:18] <viktor> no.. why would i reboot? :P
[02:18] <GNULinuxer_> Ed_Gein> i am trying to get rid of him
[02:18] <Ed_Gein> lol
[02:19] <anne> hello..can someone help me please???!!!!!!!  i am desperate!
[02:19] <GNULinuxer_> Ed_Gein> i am helping him privately
[02:19] <GNULinuxer_> anne> asl?
[02:19] <Funraiser> viktor, well i've seen it working after a reboot, even though it's not the linux way to make an app work lol
[02:19] <Sly> how can you get bored?
[02:19] <brodmann> thx
[02:19] <anne> all i need is to know how to get cups back on my comp so i can print from hp...
[02:19] <viktor> Funraiser, ok :P
[02:19] <anne> asl?
[02:19] <GNULinuxer_> anne> age/sex/location?
[02:19] <Funraiser> lol
[02:19] <Ed_Gein> lol
[02:19] <Sly> lmao
[02:19] <anne> hmmm...
[02:19] <GNULinuxer_> lol
[02:19] <nalioth> anne: american sign language?
[02:20] <anne> sure--i am up afor anything
[02:20] <GNULinuxer_> anne> a/s/l?
[02:20] <exjinn> wow. people still do that entering a chan?
[02:20] <Funraiser> lol
[02:20] <anne> i have an important paper due by tomorrow and all of a sudden my printer does not work--does not recognize "cups"
[02:20] <brodmann> do you know of a cmd line that will give me permission over all the folders and files
[02:21] <Kyral> We know ASL
[02:21] <anne> you really want to know my sex/age/location? or are you kidding?
[02:21] <GNULinuxer_> anne> do you mean the A,B,C cups?
[02:21] <anne> hahaha
[02:21] <Funraiser> anne, between two ubuntus or between an ubuntu and a windows machine?
[02:21] <Sly> 18 . m . uk .. please explain why cedega likes shoving a pole up my a**
[02:21] <Kyral> American Sign Language
[02:21] <Sly> :P
[02:21] <Funraiser> lol
[02:21] <anne> ohhh--sorry--kubuntu
[02:21] <Kyral> which game?
[02:21] <vinux> GNULinuxer_, the main reason why I like slackware is because the distros that were out thier pkgs just did work on my system. Slackware at the time was stable, fast and just worked! But now that ubuntu is around. Slackware well is just basically a Dinosaur!
[02:21] <Ed_Gein> anne: cups is probably already installed. Most likely you need to install the right drivers linuxprinting.org will help determine which ones you need then apt-get should take care of the rest
[02:21] <anne> and no--just kubunutn
[02:22] <Kyral> 'cause BF1942 is fsckin me in the arse
[02:22] <anne> your are wonderful!!!!!1 brb
[02:22] <Xappe> 25/rarely/~ 18 cm
[02:22] <GNULinuxer_> vinux> yeah, but ubuntu is debian == god
[02:22] <Ed_Gein> Kyral: that box fits?
[02:22] <Ed_Gein> that's got to hurt
[02:22] <Sly> gta2 at moment i got bored and wanted a little game
[02:22] <Kyral> lol
[02:22] <Sly> it just dies and sits at a black screen till i restart x
[02:22] <vinux> GNULinuxer_, well ubuntu I see it as the easier side of debian :)
[02:23] <Kyral> I cannot install the fscker (can we sat f*ck) in here?
[02:23] <Kyral> but Jedi Academy works great :D
[02:23] <Sly> lol
[02:23] <GNULinuxer_> vinux> no doubt ... but damn, it doesn't recognize 'cups' !
[02:23] <Ed_Gein> jedi academy blows
[02:23] <Ed_Gein> the ai is awful
[02:24] <Sly> the only other proper disk i got here is sim city 4
[02:24] <Ed_Gein> stupid troopers walk off ledges
[02:24] <Kyral> download and install the All Enemy Sabers patch
[02:24] <GNULinuxer_> Ed_Gein> the worst AI was james bond
[02:24] <Ed_Gein> never tried it
[02:24] <vinux> GNULinuxer_, really hmmm let me see hmmm let me try to configure my printer real quick hehe I forgot to do it hehe. Last time it took like 2 min to set it up in ubuntu :)
[02:24] <Kyral> I got wtfowned on Normal
[02:24] <GNULinuxer_> Ed_Gein> you could walk past the enemy
[02:24] <Ed_Gein> lol
[02:24] <GNULinuxer_> Ed_Gein> and finish the game without any kill
[02:24] <Ed_Gein> splinter cell without the shadows
[02:25] <Ed_Gein> or should I say sneaking
[02:25] <Kyral> all enemies have LS, and the Stormie Captains are SwampTroopers with Level 2 Force
[02:25] <Kyral> when you are still in the first Tier
[02:25] <vinux> GNULinuxer_, ok it's done :)
[02:25] <vinux> GNULinuxer_, i'm using cups too
[02:25] <GNULinuxer_> vinux> kool ... so which cup is it ? i love B+
[02:26] <apprentice> i love JB
[02:26] <apprentice> im a big james bond fan
[02:26] <Kyral> Goldeneye was the MP game until Halo came around
[02:26] <GNULinuxer_> apprentice> yeah kiddo
[02:26] <Kyral> even now Goldeneye rocks
[02:26] <apprentice> i love goldeneye
[02:26] <vinux> GNULinuxer_, hmm let me see
[02:27] <GNULinuxer_> okay ... guys ... we are severely OT here .... let's talk about CUPS
[02:27] <Funraiser> i don't think anything is best than splinter cell for that kind of games
[02:27] <Kyral> sorry
[02:27] <GNULinuxer_> how do you config cups in ubuntu?
[02:27] <Funraiser> i didn't have to config it to share a printer between two ubuntus...
[02:28] <Dj_AlTeK> ne1 here know how to download winetools throu8gh SPM?
[02:28] <GNULinuxer_> Funraiser> then?
[02:28] <Funraiser> (?)
[02:28] <GNULinuxer_> where is anne ?
[02:28] <Funraiser> miss her already?
[02:28] <GNULinuxer_> Funraiser> yeah ... alot
[02:28] <Sly> anyone tryed san andreas thru cedega yet ?
[02:28] <GNULinuxer_> Funraiser> even female sounding names are rare on a GNU/Linux chan
[02:29] <vinux> GNULinuxer_, It says 1.1.23 1ubuntu12 whatever that means hehe
[02:29] <Kyral> Anyone try Battlefield 2 through Cedega yet?
[02:29] <Kyral> or even the Demo?
[02:29] <Tm_T> hullo folks
[02:29] <GNULinuxer_> viktor> ahh ...
[02:29] <GNULinuxer_> guys ... do you want Ubuntu pr0n ?
[02:29] <Kyral> You mean the old wallpapers/splash screens?
[02:29] <Sly> its 1:30am im bored as sh** so im gonna try roller coaster tycoon 3 in cedega i can play that for hours
[02:30] <Kyral> It works?
[02:30] <GNULinuxer_> Kyral> not the old ones
[02:30] <GNULinuxer_> Kyral> new stuff
[02:30] <Tm_T> err, is there support for squashfs?
[02:30] <Kyral> SCORE! I have it pirated >_> <_<
[02:30] <Funraiser> san andreas is GTA III?
[02:30] <nalioth> GNULinuxer_: ubuntu pR0n?
[02:30] <GNULinuxer_> nalioth> yes
[02:30] <Kyral> You know you are a geek when....
[02:30] <Tm_T> Funraiser: no
[02:30] <Sly> Funraiser next one after vice city
[02:31] <HrdwrBoB> Funraiser: GTA III, then Vice city, then san andreas
[02:31] <Kyral> Cedega/P2P installs onto your /home, right?
[02:32] <Tm_T> ~/Trasngaming_Drive/ ?
[02:32] <Tm_T> -typo
[02:32] <nalioth> GNULinuxer_: so please share with us.. .. .. ..
[02:32] <Kyral> score...I only have 14 GB left on / :P
[02:32] <exjinn> i haven't even seen the old stuff
[02:32] <GNULinuxer_> nalioth> sure
[02:32] <Kyral> and 250 GB on /home :P
[02:32] <Sly> install of roller tycoon 3 lookin good so far
[02:32] <Kyral> SHARE! SHARE!
[02:33] <Funraiser> Kyral, i think u can install it in /home
[02:33] <Funraiser> don't remember well though
[02:33] <vinux> Kyral, I got like 2gig on my 35gig hard drive taken up hehe
[02:33] <GNULinuxer_> nalioth> nothing sort of  porn really ... just a few nude wallpapers
[02:33] <GNULinuxer_> http://freemind.in/pub/ubuntu-porn/
[02:33] <ttyS1> hello all. i have a question. is it any clone of flashget for ubuntu?
[02:33] <GNULinuxer_> ttyS1> flashgot
[02:34] <Funraiser> for the games that work on linux check http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Games&from=Need+For+Speed%3A+High+Stakes
[02:34] <vinux> ttyS1, what's flashgot?
[02:34] <GNULinuxer_> vinux> a firefox extension
[02:34] <Tm_T> GNULinuxer_: yuuuk, nudity ;p
[02:34] <vinux> GNULinuxer_, oh ok
[02:34] <ttyS1> ty
[02:34] <nalioth> GNULinuxer_: you mean the ubuntu calendar package?
[02:34] <Funraiser> looks line anne ?/?/? fixed her problem
[02:35] <Dj_AlTeK> hey ne1 here know how to use/install wine and winetools
[02:35] <GNULinuxer_> nalioth> yeah
[02:35] <GNULinuxer_> nalioth> you have all of them?
[02:35] <Funraiser> Dj_AlTeK, just use synaptic
[02:35] <GNULinuxer_> nalioth> i just have a few
[02:35] <nalioth> GNULinuxer_: gaaa! thought you had some ubuntu fan made wallpapers
[02:35] <GNULinuxer_> nalioth> nope
[02:35] <Tm_T> so there's no support for squashfs then :/
[02:35] <nalioth> GNULinuxer_: i have what has come down from the great and wise apt
[02:36] <GNULinuxer_> nalioth> what's the pacakge?
[02:36] <nalioth> ubuntu-calendar something
[02:36] <Dj_AlTeK> funraiser: i did but now i just need to install winetool's
[02:36] <Funraiser> Dj_AlTeK, and then when u hava a .exe right click and choose, open with wine (for example: grabit)
[02:36] <GNULinuxer_> nalioth> aha
[02:36] <Dj_AlTeK> ah ok
[02:36] <GNULinuxer_> UBUNTU IS GREAT! YOU CAN APT-GET INSTALL PR0N
[02:36] <exjinn> lol
[02:36] <Funraiser> Dj_AlTeK, wine tools is there too (synaptic)
[02:37] <Razor-X> hmmmm, it seems screen supports native emacs commands
[02:37] <coolkev> What do i need to know or do tog et Wine installed and workign on my Ubuntu
[02:37] <coolkev> get*
[02:37] <Razor-X> nice, now I don't have to keep using arrow keys in my stuff
[02:37] <Funraiser> coolkev, just go to synatic and install it
[02:38] <unome> Guys is there an open source swish progy I can use under Ubuntu for flash?
[02:38] <Funraiser> anne left!
[02:38] <coolkev> i want to install and play some old win 95/98 games and i heard wine is good for those small games like Duke Nukem
[02:38] <Razor-X> coolkev: Duke Nukem was a DOS game
[02:38] <juxhi> how do i mount an lv partition under ubuntu?
[02:38] <Razor-X> juxhi: lv? you mean using lvm?
[02:39] <Sly> E: Couldn't find package PRON
[02:39] <Sly>   :( :(
[02:39] <juxhi> lvm
[02:39] <Sly> :P
[02:39] <Funraiser> the games that work on linux http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Category:Games
[02:39] <coolkev> Funraiser if i install it from synaptic it'll work perfect as it should and also, is the latest version there?
[02:39] <Funraiser> it will work
[02:39] <GNULinuxer_> see guys ... we will only help others in solving problems ... WE WON'T SOLVE THE PROBLEMS, they should try too
[02:39] <Dj_AlTeK> Funraiser: i have wine and when i download and save the steam installer, it says open with other application but wine isnt in the list
[02:39] <juxhi> Razor-X i meant lvm
[02:39] <GNULinuxer_> Sly> ubuntu-calendar
[02:40] <Razor-X> juxhi: ahhh, not familiar with the notation for lvm, but, I believe i've read an article on that
[02:40] <Sly> your kidding me right
[02:40] <Sly> lol
[02:40] <exjinn> ugh.
[02:40] <coolkev> Is cedega free and will it let me play some old games.. my video card is only 32 Mb so i wanna play old games like Need For speed Hot Pursuit 1
[02:40] <Razor-X> coolkev: why matter? DOS games work better in DOSemu, or DOSbox
[02:40] <exjinn> anyone have a mail client that doesn't suck
[02:40] <GNULinuxer_> coolkev> no. it's not free
[02:40] <Razor-X> WINE is better for Windows applications
[02:40] <exjinn> okay well at least does threaded viewing
[02:41] <coolkev> ok
[02:41] <Razor-X> coolkev: CVS is free, or so I here, but it doesen't play old games
[02:41] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> nfs is not a DOS game
[02:41] <vinux> Sly, I found pornview. Hmmm wonder what I could view with that pkg
[02:41] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: nfs?
[02:41] <Sly> damn i might try that theme hospital under them two things you just said
[02:41] <coolkev> need for speed
[02:41] <Razor-X> offf
[02:41] <coolkev> the third one
[02:41] <Razor-X> never say that in a Linux channel
[02:41] <Razor-X> NFS == Network File System
[02:42] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> need for speed
[02:42] <Razor-X> i'm pretty sure WINE can play NFS III (Hot Pursuit, IIRC ;), but i'm not 100% sure on that
[02:42] <HrdwrBoB> I wouldn't say 'never'
[02:42] <HrdwrBoB> i know about NFS and NFS, and I can identify their use by context :)
[02:42] <goldfish_> lol#
[02:42] <Razor-X> HrdwrBoB: I can't ;)
[02:43] <stevenj> If I wanted to over right the gaim folder in /usr/share/pixmaps/gaim (how would I?) or is there an easier way to use an alternate gaim icon set (not smilies) thanks!
[02:43] <Razor-X> I know about Need For Speed, but I instinctively think of Network File System
[02:43] <ChinaCatJones> I am trying to get an ancient laptop up and running with ubuntu for kicks, i hardwired an IP into to get setup to go, it didn't find the card, now I need to set it back to dhcp, what file do I need to touch?
[02:43] <vinux> GNULinuxer_, hey I didn't find pron with synaptic but I did fine pornview. Hmmm I wonder what I could use it for :P
[02:43] <Funraiser> Need For Speed 3: Hot Pursuit Works, but needs special configuration
[02:43] <Razor-X> stevenj: overwrite, and, i'm pretty sure GAIM can manage smilies sets
[02:43] <nalioth> vinux: it'll tell you in the pkginfo
[02:44] <vinux> oh ok let me see
[02:44] <Razor-X> now, don't make me get stuck in this channel helping!
[02:44] <Razor-X> I have homework, and a self-given project
[02:44] <ChinaCatJones> btw, X is puking too, so I am at a prompt
[02:44] <Funraiser> ChinaCatJones, no files just system/administration/network
[02:44] <stevenj> Razor-X, I am not talking about smiles but an entire gaim icon replacement (http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22348) thanks!
[02:44] <Razor-X> I'm gonna distill all of Algebra II into one LaTeX document, so that I can show myself, and classmates that Algebra II is like a walk-in-the-park
[02:45] <Razor-X> stevenj: hold up, lemme take a read
[02:45] <Ghetek> i always get tons of errors in my terminal. what can i do to just reinstall all applications safely?
[02:45] <coolkev> stevenj: try #Gaim
[02:45] <Dj_AlTeK> hey i got steam running on my computer but i dunno where i can find the .exe
[02:45] <stevenj> Razor-X, thanks-the icons look better better than the original :)
[02:45] <GNULinuxer_> vinux> do  you know what mozilla's image rendering library is called?
[02:45] <Razor-X> ChinaCatJones: I suggest 'sudo apt-get install twin' to have some of X's niceties
[02:46] <Razor-X> in a console, that is
[02:46] <stevenj> coolkev, this is more of a basic linux question coolkev...how to overright something..thanks
[02:46] <kvidell> I'm fairly certain replacing the application icons in gaim requires a recompile.
[02:46] <GNULinuxer_> can anybody tell me what mozilla's image rendering library is called?
[02:46] <vinux> nalioth, It told me in pkginfo that If was reading it I'm too young to download it. lol jk
[02:46] <vinux> GNULinuxer_, nope no idea
[02:46] <GNULinuxer_> kvidell> nope, you just change the theme
[02:46] <nalioth> vinux: well, its made for one-handed manipulation (from pkginfo)
[02:46] <davidmccabe> hey folks.
[02:46] <kvidell> GNULinuxer_: Not for copmletely custom icons
[02:46] <vinux> nalioth, LMAO
[02:46] <ChinaCatJones> Funraiser: that command was from the console?
[02:46] <kvidell> that's for smiley themes
[02:46] <GNULinuxer_> vinux> you won't believe if i tell you
[02:47] <davidmccabe> Can I make it so that when I install a package that has a corrisponding -dev package, the -dev package gets installed as well?
[02:47] <kvidell> we're talking changing the aim and msn icons, etc, I think
[02:47] <GNULinuxer_> kvidell> which icons?
[02:47] <vinux> GNULinuxer_, tell me
[02:47] <Razor-X> uggghhh, Algebra II is so boring
[02:47] <GNULinuxer_> vinux> libpr0n
[02:47] <Razor-X> but, our teacher makes it interesting, with cool stuff
[02:47] <Funraiser> ChinaCatJones,  this one yes: sudo apt-get install twin
[02:47] <Razor-X> like proving that 0/0 is indeterminate
[02:47] <stevenj> I am taking cal III this summer
[02:47] <davidmccabe> Razor-X: *learn it* or you'll regret it.
[02:47] <vinux> GNULinuxer_, lol
[02:47] <davidmccabe> Razor-X: :)
[02:47] <Razor-X> davidmccabe: I already know all the stuff in this course ;)
[02:47] <GNULinuxer_> vinux> because they think the lib will ultimately render only pr0n
[02:47] <Razor-X> hoping to be a Pure Math major
[02:47] <davidmccabe> Razor-X: oh, then it sucks to be you, big time.
[02:47] <Razor-X> my school won't let me go ahead, even though i'm at Calculus level
[02:48] <GNULinuxer_> vinux> and the second reason is ... imglib2 is so boring
[02:48] <Razor-X> i'm gonna do it, and take the AP test mid-next-school-year
[02:48] <etacidnys> Razor-X: ever go in #math ?
[02:48] <davidmccabe> Razor-X: some states have a program where you can attend a local community college and get high school credits.
[02:48] <Razor-X> taking Algebra II over summer, and it's _boring_
[02:48] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> how old are you?
[02:48] <Razor-X> etacidnys: they're a real helpful bunch, they were helping me learn some elementary Calculus concepts
[02:48] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: 15
[02:48] <stevenj> Razor-X, get a TI 89 does alot of the simple stuff for you ;)
[02:48] <etacidnys> Razor-X: nice
[02:48] <davidmccabe> Razor-X: awesome that you're ahead in math though.
[02:48] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> not old enough for the razor?
[02:49] <davidmccabe> Razor-X: sorry to hear your school sucks so much.
[02:49] <Razor-X> stevenj: using Maxima at the moment, awesome awesome thing
[02:49] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: as someone already said, yes i'm too young for the Razor ;)
[02:49] <Ghetek> !mount
[02:49] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Ghetek
[02:49] <Ghetek> !iso
[02:49] <ubotu> Ghetek: Are you smoking crack?
[02:49] <ChinaCatJones> funraiser: the issue is that I don't have a good IP connection, so apt is no good for the moment
[02:49] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> lol
[02:49] <Razor-X> davidmccabe: they don't have an assessment to show that I know stuff
[02:49] <fus3> what's Razor?
[02:49] <Ghetek> anybody remember the mount iso command?
[02:49] <GNULinuxer_> Ghetek> yes
[02:49] <Ghetek> wanna share?
[02:49] <kvidell> loopback!
[02:49] <Razor-X> you have to have the damned prerequisite courses
[02:49] <GNULinuxer_> Ghetek> will you gimme a beer?
[02:49] <kvidell> loopbackloopback!
[02:49] <kvidell> o.o;
[02:50] <Funraiser> lol
[02:50] <Ghetek> um... a digital irc one
[02:50] <fus3> what's warez?
[02:50] <Razor-X> Matricies *yawn* Logarithms *yawn* Factorials *yawn*
[02:50] <brodmann> hey, how do i gain ownership of all the files under Filesystem?
[02:50] <GNULinuxer_> Ghetek> mount file.iso /mnt/cdrom -o loop
[02:50] <Funraiser> fus3, it's softwarez...
[02:50] <Razor-X> on the assessment at the community college, I placed in Calculus level ;)
[02:50] <GNULinuxer_> Ghetek> now give
[02:50] <Ghetek> i did!
[02:50] <davidmccabe> Razor-X: say!
[02:50] <Ghetek> "* Ghetek gives the channel a round"
[02:50] <GNULinuxer_> Ghetek> aha
[02:50] <fus3> what's 0-day?
[02:50] <stevenj> is anyone using this Alternate GAIM icon set  ref: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22348
[02:50] <fus3> what's dood?
[02:50] <nalioth> fus3: just fell off the turnip truck
[02:50] <Funraiser> big bang?
[02:50] <GNULinuxer_> Ghetek> but it tasted like horse piss
[02:50] <Razor-X> and so, i'm gonna condense the damn course into a document
[02:50] <PoopinClumpin> 0-day is today
[02:50] <vinux> I think they need a compression program that will compress a 1mb file into 1kb :)
[02:51] <Xappe> i hate gaim, so I don'r use it at all
[02:51] <kvidell> brodmann: you want your user to "own" everything? That's not a good idea :)
[02:51] <fus3> oh oh oh
[02:51] <kvidell> you can use sudo to manipulate individual files.
[02:51] <GNULinuxer_> I use GNU Emacs
[02:51] <Razor-X> holy crap!
[02:51] <Funraiser> fus3, ain't we funny?
[02:51] <Razor-X> I just realized, I binded something to C-n in BitchX
[02:51] <brodmann> kvidell: well it's just me
[02:51] <Razor-X> oh, the HORROR!!!
[02:51] <kvidell> doesn't matter
[02:51] <fus3> umm,snaky
[02:51] <GNULinuxer_> Funraiser> this chan is now flooded with n00bs
[02:51] <kvidell> the software expects certain users to own stuff
[02:52] <kvidell> if you own it instead of that software's user, it wont run
[02:52] <Razor-X> davidmccabe: well, would that be that hard, really?
[02:52] <kvidell> and you end up screwed bad
[02:52] <Razor-X> err!
[02:52] <fus3> ^_^
[02:52] <brodmann> ah
[02:52] <Funraiser> GNULinuxer_, which proves linux is on it's way to world domination
[02:52] <GNULinuxer_> Funraiser> yeah ... and I am loving it
[02:52] <kvidell> use sudo -s -H to get a root prompt for doing lots of stuff at once.
[02:52] <vinux> Funraiser, AMEN
[02:52] <Funraiser> me too lol
[02:52] <Dj_AlTeK> hey i need some help with wine!!!!!
[02:52] <GNULinuxer_> Funraiser> read this http://www.freemind.in/blog/
[02:52] <GNULinuxer_> Dj_AlTeK> just sip it
[02:53] <Sly> Dj_Altek again ?
[02:53] <Dj_AlTeK> >.>
[02:53] <GNULinuxer_> Dj_AlTeK> it's easy ... trust me
[02:53] <vinux> Dj_AlTeK, be sure to smell it frist though
[02:53] <Dj_AlTeK> haha
[02:53] <Sly> and swirl it
[02:53] <Dj_AlTeK> in not talking bout that
[02:53] <cantieeq> where can i get package XFree86-devel for ubuntu ?
[02:53] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: I have to add emacs binds to my .bashrc
[02:53] <vinux> Dj_AlTeK, oh you need some helping drinking it?
[02:53] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> what's stopping you
[02:53] <Razor-X> using the arrow-keys is an unwanted hell indeed
[02:53] <vinux> Dj_AlTeK, ok
[02:53] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: absolutely nothing ;)
[02:53] <Dj_AlTeK> i put in my hl2 cd and i cant find the wine program
[02:54] <GNULinuxer_> kvidell> how good is ubuntu on PPC?
[02:54] <pocho> ddsadas
[02:54] <Dj_AlTeK> when i right click on it and choose open with other application I cant find wine in there
[02:54] <Sly> u aint gonna run hl2 on a simple wine installation
[02:54] <pocho> helllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[02:54] <kvidell> cantieeq: I believe ubuntu uses xorg instead of the old xfree libs
[02:54] <goldfish_> Dj_AlTeK: you run wine from a terminal
[02:54] <GNULinuxer_> pocho> ?
[02:54] <Dj_AlTeK> >.>
[02:54] <kvidell> GNULinuxer_: Wouldn't know. I don't like linux as a laptop/desktop platform :)
[02:54] <GNULinuxer_> kvidell> it does
[02:54] <unome> Guys is there a flash editor for linux?
[02:54] <pocho> yes thats my name
[02:54] <vinux> pocho, hellllloooo
[02:54] <exjinn> GNULinuxer_, was that article supposed to be humorous?
[02:54] <Funraiser> GNULinuxer_, nice
[02:54] <GNULinuxer_> unome> nope
[02:54] <Dj_AlTeK> what command do you use to get wine started??
[02:54] <pocho> hello vinux
[02:54] <kvidell> well.. I do use ubuntu on my ThinkPad
[02:54] <GNULinuxer_> exjinn> goofy ..
[02:54] <Sly> wine <app-name>
[02:54] <unome> That sucks :(
[02:54] <Funraiser> exjinn, i made ME laugh
[02:55] <Funraiser> it*
[02:55] <pocho> I love you all
[02:55] <socomm> Dj_AlTeK: `man wine'
[02:55] <kvidell> ThinkPads* rather. And I like it on that :)
[02:55] <pocho> where are u from vinux
[02:55] <exjinn> it was funny, just wasn't sure if you were aiming that way
[02:55] <GNULinuxer_> kvidell> i am on a toshiba laptop ... it's the best
[02:55] <exjinn> or if you were actually making fun of someone
[02:55] <kvidell> hehe :) cool.
[02:55] <exjinn> damn obvoius sarcasm
[02:55] <cantieeq> i want to install fox toolkit, and when i configure it. i get message that i'm lack of (x.h, xlib.h,xutil.h,xresource.h,xatoms.h and cursorfont.h)
[02:55] <exjinn> :)
[02:55] <GNULinuxer_> kvidell> EVERYTHING works on linux
[02:55] <Sly> Dj_Altek u realy aint gonna get hl2 running on simple wine.......... wine is more for appz
[02:55] <pocho> go on WINDOWSgo on WINDOWSgo on WINDOWSgo on WINDOWSgo on WINDOWSgo on WINDOWSgo on WINDOWSgo on WINDOWSgo on WINDOWSgo on WINDOWSgo on WINDOWSgo on WINDOWSgo on WINDOWSgo on WINDOWSgo on WINDOWSgo on WINDOWSgo on WINDOWS+
[02:55] <pocho> go on WINDOWS
[02:55] <pocho> go on WINDOWS
[02:55] <pocho> go on WINDOWS
[02:55] <pocho> go on WINDOWS
[02:55] <pocho> go on WINDOWS
[02:55] <goldfish_> hmmmm.
[02:56] <Razor-X> haha
[02:56] <Sly> prat
[02:56] <pocho> go on WINDOWS
[02:56] <pocho> go on WINDOWS
[02:56] <kvidell> I don't like Ubuntu on desktops because it's too stable, and as a laptop OS it's kind of shoddy because of IPv6
[02:56] <Razor-X> pocho: no
[02:56] <Funraiser> wha'ts windows?
[02:56] <pocho> FUCK LINUX
[02:56] <goldfish_> bye pocho
[02:56] <Razor-X> pocho: no
[02:56] <Razor-X> pocho: no
[02:56] <pocho> FUCK LINUX
[02:56] <pocho> FUCK LINUX
[02:56] <apprentice> i am on windowes
[02:56] <pocho> FUCK LINUX
[02:56] <socomm> cantieeq: You need xorg-dev.
[02:56] <kvidell> pocho: bugger off mate
[02:56] <pocho> FUCK LINUX
[02:56] <Razor-X> pocho: no
[02:56] <GNULinuxer_> pocho> don't troll here ... else i will ban you
[02:56] <pocho> FUCK LINUXFUCK LINUX
[02:56] <Razor-X> pocho: no
[02:56] <Razor-X> pocho: no
[02:56] <Razor-X> pocho: no
[02:56] <Razor-X> pocho: no
[02:56] <GNULinuxer_> pocho> don't troll here ... else i will ban you
[02:56] <Razor-X> ;)
[02:56] <pocho> NO WHAT
[02:56] <Razor-X> NO I WON'T USE WINDOWS
[02:56] <kvidell> pocho: you're the annoying child from the forum aren't you?
[02:56] <exjinn> no no
[02:56] <pocho> FUCK YOU PEOPLE
[02:56] <nalioth> pocho please use some intellectualism here
[02:56] <socomm> Any mods around?
[02:56] <vinux> pocho, Mars. I just got my interent working but these green guys running around keep chewing on this cord
[02:56] <pocho> FUCK LINUXFUCK LINUX
[02:56] <pocho> FUCK LINUX
[02:56] <Citizen> hi
[02:56] <GNULinuxer_> socomm> I am
[02:56] <Citizen> xDD
[02:56] <Razor-X> YOU CAN GO F*CK BILL GATES FOR ALL I CARE POCHO ;)
[02:56] <Razor-X> ok, i'm done, i'm done
[02:56] <nalioth> pocho: i find windows abominable, also
[02:56] <socomm> GNULinuxer_: Boot pocho please.
[02:56] <pocho> FUCK U NALIOTH
[02:56] <kvidell> Razor-X: don't make it worse bud
[02:56] <Funraiser> linux fucks windows in the ass that's right
[02:57] <exjinn> he is entitiled to his half arsed opinion
[02:57] <pocho> FUCK LINUFUCK LINUXFUCK LINUX
[02:57] <Razor-X> pocho: please learn propper grammar
[02:57] <GNULinuxer_> socomm> forgot the password!
[02:57] <pocho> FUCK LINUX
[02:57] <davidmccabe> haha.
[02:57] <Razor-X> there is no word called 'u' in the English language
[02:57] <socomm> ...
[02:57] <Citizen> is him a bot?
[02:57] <nalioth> pocho: thank you pocho, have u been talking to ubotu? (only he knows im gay)
[02:57] <pocho> FUCK YOU MOTHER FUCKER
[02:57] <exjinn> poncho your caps lock is stuck.
[02:57] <kvidell> dam nhe's not here
[02:57] <GNULinuxer_> pocho> i will ban you tomorrow
[02:57] <socomm> Well at least ignore still works.
[02:57] <nalioth> pocho: do you fellate canines?
[02:57] <pocho> LISTEN EVERY1 NALIOTH IS GAY
[02:57] <pocho> FUCK LINUX
[02:57] <vinux> pocho, how much is bill gates paying you for saying this?
[02:57] <nalioth> pocho: see how much nastier you can be with real words?
[02:57] <apprentice> i am gay
[02:57] <exjinn> and we still love him regardless
[02:58] <pocho> WHAT MEANS BAN??
[02:58] <GNULinuxer_> EVERYONE IGNORE POCHO
[02:58] <davidmccabe> /leave fuck admins you can't remember their passwords.
[02:58] <nalioth> pocho: do you sodomize pigs?
[02:58] <Xappe> don't feed the trolls
[02:58] <kvidell> pocho: I doubt Nalioth is gay, but it just so happens that I am... so you can make fun of me if you like
[02:58] <UdrunKnow> bah
[02:58] <ficusplanet> When I run muine in hoary with the inotify plugin, I get an error about not being able to open /dev/inotify.  I looked and /dev/inotify doesn't exists.  How can I create it?
[02:58] <UdrunKnow> I was slow
[02:58] <UdrunKnow> sorry
[02:58] <apprentice> i am gau
[02:58] <apprentice> gay
[02:58] <Funraiser> kvidell, lol
[02:58] <GNULinuxer_> i was joking guys ... i am not an op
[02:58] <Citizen> ..
[02:58] <kvidell> aw. pishposh.
[02:58] <Flying-Penguin> what is the latest kernel for a P4???
[02:58] <vinux> apprentice, it's ok there is help for you out there
[02:58] <nalioth> well, that was horrible, i rarely say things like that
[02:58] <GNULinuxer_> Flying-Penguin> what?
[02:58] <UdrunKnow> apprentice: I think whatever you are or not does not really matter here :)
[02:58] <Dj_AlTeK> hey how do i get my cdrom mounted when i have a windows disc in the drive??
[02:59] <GNULinuxer_> Flying-Penguin> 2.6.12-686
[02:59] <apprentice> i will stop
[02:59] <Razor-X> DAMN IT ALL
[02:59] <Razor-X> a package came
[02:59] <Flying-Penguin> GNULinuxer_: thank you
[02:59] <nalioth> y'all please, lets keep the dog fellating and pig sodomizing comments amongnst ourselves, ok?
[02:59] <Razor-X> and I thought it was my Calc book
[02:59] <GNULinuxer_> Flying-Penguin> but ...
[02:59] <Razor-X> but it was my mom's sister -_-
[02:59] <Razor-X> *mom's steamer
[02:59] <Razor-X> holy shit... that didn't sound right!
[02:59] <Flying-Penguin> GNULinuxer_:???
[02:59] <Funraiser> Razor-X, lol
[02:59] <Razor-X> yeah, I was hoping the book came -_-
[02:59] <GNULinuxer_> Flying-Penguin> you won't find it in the repos
[02:59] <Razor-X> too much adrenaline...... -_-
[02:59] <GNULinuxer_> Flying-Penguin> do you really need it?
[03:00] <Razor-X> my aunt is rich!
[03:00] <Razor-X> really really really rich, actually
[03:00] <GNULinuxer_> Flying-Penguin> you can use 2.6.11
[03:00] <Razor-X> a celebrity in India ;) 10 story marble house with armed guards
[03:00] <exjinn> razor-x is your aunt single?
[03:00] <socomm> This is lame.
[03:00] <Razor-X> exjinn: married to the most famous magician India ;)
[03:00] <Funraiser> Razor-X, the slip of the tongue is when you say something but mean your mother
[03:00] <exjinn> heh
[03:00] <Razor-X> Funraiser: ;)
[03:00] <cthulfuego> Razor-X: Can the magician make himself disappear?
[03:01] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: PC Sorcar JR
[03:01] <Flying-Penguin> well GNULinuxer_ I am using 2.6.10-5-386 right now
[03:01] <Razor-X> cthulfuego: he made the Taj Mahal disappear
[03:01] <nalioth> Funraiser: tongueing the slip?
[03:01] <cthulfuego> Flying-Penguin: Is 2.6.10 somehow not working?
[03:01] <cthulfuego> Razor-X: That's not very useful.
[03:01] <Funraiser> nalioth, yuk
[03:01] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> aah ... but he doesn't have a 10 storied bulting
[03:01] <Flying-Penguin> yes cthulfuego it isn't smp :)
[03:01] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: he doesen't?
[03:01] <cthulfuego> !rule 1
[03:01] <ubotu> Rule number one: Don't fix it if it isn't broken!
[03:01] <Razor-X> it felt like that....
[03:01] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> your aunt?
[03:01] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: he's married to my Aunt ;)
[03:01] <HrdwrBoB> Flying-Penguin: so get the smp version :)
[03:01] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> I am from kolkata too
[03:01] <apprentice> aunt == ant
[03:01] <apprentice> ?
[03:01] <Razor-X> nice!
[03:02] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> i know your cousins ... moubani
[03:02] <cthulfuego> apprentice: No. ant == small insect. aunt == sister of your parents
[03:02] <Razor-X> I still refer to it as Calcutta, so mind me
[03:02] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: then... you know me?
[03:02] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> and Mumtaz
[03:02] <Flying-Penguin> IS there something better abought 2.6.10 that I don't know abought? what is the best one for ati drivers how abought that?
[03:02] <Funraiser> well we are all cousins
[03:02] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> you indian?
[03:02] <Razor-X> yes, I know Mumtaz, Moubani, and Paroma
[03:02] <Razor-X> yeah, i'm Indian (but not in India)
[03:02] <vinux> who uses Shoutcast here?
[03:02] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> great
[03:02] <Razor-X> ;)
[03:02] <exjinn> I use modprobe i8k force=1 on boot to enable my fans, and gkrellm to regulate them is there any way to tell linux to regulate the fans without having to run gkrellm?
[03:03] <vinux> Razor-X, you american indian?
[03:03] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> you bengali too?
[03:03] <Anon7960> ubuntu rox my sox
[03:03] <Razor-X> my dad is a Mechanical Engineer from IITK
[03:03] <Razor-X> yeahp
[03:03] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> tomar naam ki?
[03:03] <Anon7960> ubuntu rox
[03:03] <Razor-X> amar naam Koushik
[03:03] <vinux> Anon7960, what's uuuuup? UBUNTU IN THE HOUSE!!!
[03:03] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> aha ... do you have bangla fonts installed ?
[03:03] <Anon7960> UBUNTU UBUNTUUBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNTU UBUNT
[03:03] <Razor-X> beware, my Romanized Bengali isn't the best
[03:03] <Anon7960> rox
[03:03] <cthulfuego> Anon7960: Can you not, please?
[03:03] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: can't read Bengali, unfortunately
[03:03] <GNULinuxer_> Anon7960> don't do that
[03:03] <Flying-Penguin> what is the best kernel for ATI???
[03:03] <Ghetek> this isnt working
[03:04] <Ghetek> sudo mount '/hdc1/ISO/Worms Armageddon/WA.ISO' /mnt/iso -o loop
[03:04] <Razor-X> Anon7960: h ave fun bleating, Mr. Script-kiddie
[03:04] <kvidell> god I love IRC
[03:04] <Razor-X> *have
[03:04] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> born and brought up in US?
[03:04] <Anon7960> ubuntu still rox
[03:04] <Razor-X> kvidell: you mean, you get to see Idiots display their idiocy?
[03:04] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: yeahp
[03:04] <GNULinuxer_> Anon7960> don't do that please
[03:04] <Razor-X> but, I speak a generous dose of Bengali at home
[03:04] <cthulfuego> Anon7960: We know. It's why we're here.
[03:04] <Anon7960> why, im showing affection
[03:04] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> good ... khub bhalo
[03:04] <joseph> Let me guess this has been asked a billion times... I can't open shoutcast streams with gstreamer. It tells me there is no thing for audio/mpeg
[03:04] <cthulfuego> Anon7960: No, you're spamming.
[03:04] <Razor-X> it's a very effective way of speaking amongst yourselves when other people are there
[03:05] <Anon7960> fine: any who, my audio doesnt work
[03:05] <cthulfuego> !dict affection
[03:05] <Chris`Everitt> isn't 'sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin' supposed to work with Ubuntu?
[03:05] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> yeah
[03:05] <ubotu> Dictionary 'affection' a positive feeling of liking; "he had trouble expressing the affection he felt"; "the child won everyone's heart"
[03:05] <HrdwrBoB> Razor-X: it's also incredibly rude
[03:05] <Razor-X> joseph: VLC works with shoutcast streams
[03:05] <cthulfuego> !dict spam
[03:05] <joseph> What is VLC
[03:05] <Razor-X> HrdwrBoB: not if you whisper it
[03:05] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> tomar surname ki?
[03:05] <Ghetek> !dict tomato
[03:05] <Razor-X> joseph: an awesome media-player
[03:05] <Anon7960> i have a sudigy 2 z5 platinum pro and it doesnt work in ubuntu but it does in window
[03:05] <ubotu> Dictionary 'tomato' (2 shown): mildly acid red or yellow pulpy fruit eaten as a vegetable ;; native to South America; widely cultivated in many varieties  .
[03:05] <goldfish_> joseph: sudo apt-get install vlc
[03:05] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: amar surname Roy
[03:05] <goldfish_> it rocks
[03:05] <Chris`Everitt> I keep getting a 'Could not find package phpmyadmin' message.
[03:05] <joseph> sweet
[03:06] <Ghetek> but seriously... sudo mount '/hdc1/ISO/Worms Armageddon/WA.ISO' /mnt/iso -o loop
[03:06] <cthulfuego> Chris`Everitt: it might be in universe
[03:06] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: tomi jaano amaderke?
[03:06] <Ghetek> what am i doing wrong?
[03:06] <Funraiser> joseph, it's a media player that really opens everything
[03:06] <cthulfuego> Ghetek: -t iso9660
[03:06] <Ghetek> ah
[03:06] <vinux> Isn't a tomato a fruit?
[03:06] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> not all
[03:06] <cthulfuego> $EDITOR Yes, that's what it said.
[03:06] <Ghetek> vinux... your right
[03:06] <Funraiser> joseph, made by french dude though so be careful
[03:06] <Ghetek> tomoto isnt a veggie
[03:06] <cthulfuego> vinux: "fruit eaten as a vegetable"
[03:06] <vinux> Ghetek, cool
[03:06] <joseph> could not find vlc on apt-get...
[03:06] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> tomar uncle is the greatest in the world ... after david copperfield may be
[03:06] <Chris`Everitt> cthulfuego, I'm not sure what you mean by that.  Could you explain that a bit more?
[03:06] <vinux> cthulfuego, cool
[03:07] <Funraiser> joseph, check on synaptic it's there
[03:07] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: yeah, i'm pretty sure of that too
[03:07] <cthulfuego> GNULinuxer_: David Copperfield is a book, mate.
[03:07] <Razor-X> but, I don't like to boast about him, unneccessarily
[03:07] <GNULinuxer_> cthulfuego> nope ... he's the greatest illusionist
[03:07] <Razor-X> cthulfuego: David Copperfield attended my Uncle's shows
[03:07] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> that speaks of your lineage
[03:07] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: heh
[03:08] <Funraiser> David copperfield dated my girlfriend
[03:08] <Razor-X> i'm proud! yes I am
[03:08] <thenuke> joseph: vlc ineed is in university repositories
[03:08] <Razor-X> Funraiser: if you don't believe me... look up the family ties
[03:08] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> now make them proud
[03:08] <cthulfuego> GNULinuxer_: He should get a job ;-)
[03:08] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: well, I love math, so that'll probably be what I do something in
[03:08] <Funraiser> Razor-X, i do believe u
[03:08] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> that's great ... and BTW, prolly I have a crush on Moubani
[03:09] <GNULinuxer_> :-)
[03:09] <Razor-X> Funraiser: i'm his wife's nephew (PC Sorcar Junior)
[03:09] <Funraiser> k
[03:09] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: hah! my mom tells her not to eat too little
[03:09] <Funraiser> not that i care but, that's cool
[03:09] <mrplum> Error ****Jun 21 20:42:37 localhost kernel: usb 6-1: device not accepting address 9, error -71*** when I try and insert my usb floppy, any ideas what's happening?
[03:09] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> lol
[03:09] <Razor-X> my mom took care of Paroma all the time, and Moubani for a bit to
[03:09] <Razor-X> I know of what she did when she was young too ;)
[03:09] <Razor-X> she called my dad 'leboo' (long story)
[03:09] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> lol
[03:10] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> anything to do with balls?
[03:10] <exjinn> I remember someone here owns an internet cafe
[03:10] <Razor-X> nopes ;)
[03:10] <exjinn> anyone know who?
[03:10] <GNULinuxer_> :)
[03:10] <GNULinuxer_> exjinn> no
[03:10] <GNULinuxer_> exjinn> why?
[03:10] <Razor-X> an Ubuntu cafe would be kickarse
[03:10] <Funraiser> no but i remember seeing him around here
[03:10] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> my name is Baishampayan Ghose
[03:11] <exjinn> I've been mulling over the idea of a non profit linux based community computer lab here in philadelphia
[03:11] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: nice to meet ya
[03:11] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> yeah you too.
[03:11] <Funraiser> Ubuntu chocolate for me thanks
[03:11] <exjinn> ubuntu would be a great distro to start with
[03:11] <Razor-X> I think I have enough money for a Das Keyboard ;)
[03:11] <GNULinuxer_> exjinn> i support you
[03:11] <vinux> I
[03:11] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> das kb?
[03:11] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> the hacker kb
[03:11] <Razor-X> time to ask my fried to buy it, and claim that I painted my old keyboard, and throw it away so my parents don't get suspicious ;)
[03:11] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> it too costly
[03:11] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: the very one
[03:12] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> lol
[03:12] <exjinn> west philadelphia is pretty progressive but also pretty ghetto, there aren't many resources for people to access the internet which honestly is a tool...most can't afford it
[03:12] <Funraiser> mrplum, when nobody answers...no one knows...
[03:12] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> since how many years are you using Linux?
[03:12] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: 4, currently
[03:12] <Razor-X> since I was 11, basically
[03:12] <Razor-X> I had my first dose of Linux, muLinux
[03:12] <cthulfuego> That's cheaper then a Happy Hacker
[03:13] <Razor-X> and after that, i'm hooked
[03:13] <Razor-X> cthulfuego: it's either Das, or HHKL2
[03:13] <cthulfuego> Razor-X: I have the latter
[03:13] <cthulfuego> Razor-X: *very* nice
[03:13] <Razor-X> but my parents may grow suspicious as to why I shrank my old keyboard
[03:13] <Razor-X> or rather, how
[03:13] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> lol
[03:13] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> tell them you washed it
[03:13] <Funraiser> on hot waters
[03:13] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: and, a whole portion just got chopped off? ;)
[03:14] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> where is your dad working?
[03:14] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: Applera, at the moment
[03:14] <Razor-X> he's kind of out of touch with his IIT-K buddies
[03:14] <sknroiws> How do I get another hard drive to work with ubuntu?
[03:14] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> what does applera make?
[03:14] <Razor-X> sknroiws: plug it in, and mount it
[03:14] <sknroiws> How do I mount it?
[03:14] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: medicine, I believe
[03:14] <sknroiws> Is there a mounting program?
[03:15] <Razor-X> specifically, he can do MEMS and MOEMS
[03:15] <Razor-X> (I just know the names, not the specifics)
[03:15] <GNULinuxer_> sknroiws> yeah ... you get it in any porn shop
[03:15] <ubotu> Dictionary 'spam' (3 shown): send unwanted or junk e-mail ;; unwanted e-mail (usually of a commercial nature sent out in bulk) ;; a canned meat made largely from pork.
[03:15] <Razor-X> still, my dad doesen't like me majoring in Pure Math
[03:15] <GNULinuxer_> sknroiws> the MOUNTING program
[03:15] <sknroiws> ><
[03:15] <Razor-X> sknroiws: yeah, 'sudo mount /dev/path/to/hdd /mnt/mount/point'
[03:15] <mp3wolf> question for someone in here....  can i get my wireless card in my laptop to work with ubuntu?
[03:15] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> where you you guys stay?
[03:16] <Razor-X> my dad being an Engineer, he doesen't lik Pure math's purely analytical "unrealistic" perspective
[03:16] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> depends
[03:16] <mp3wolf> on?
[03:16] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: Silicon Valley, California
[03:16] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> the card
[03:16] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> great
[03:16] <mp3wolf> ok, what do i need to know?
[03:16] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> the make
[03:16] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> what's sosdg.org?
[03:16] <mp3wolf> dang, wish i had checked that when i had xp on it
[03:16] <mp3wolf> LOL
[03:16] <Razor-X> the site that hosts my shell
[03:16] <sknroiws> How can I tell which one is a hard drive
[03:16] <Razor-X> and the anti-spam organization
[03:17] <sknroiws> There is lots of stuff in the dev folder
[03:17] <Razor-X> sknroiws: try /dev/hdb
[03:17] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> you IRC via remote login?
[03:17] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: yeahp
[03:17] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> why?
[03:17] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: I like my programs to run all the time
[03:17] <sknroiws> I see hba-hbc are those all hard drives?
[03:17] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> once i get ubuntu on the computer will i be able to find out with card i have?
[03:17] <Razor-X> sknroiws: hda == first hard drive, hda1 == first partition of hda
[03:17] <GNULinuxer_> sknroiws> ya
[03:18] <sknroiws> ok
[03:18] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> if it's good yes
[03:18] <Razor-X> and, a increments, and 1 increments
[03:18] <Razor-X> it's a real simple naming convention, much beter than the convoluted one of BSD
[03:18] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> you have no idea which make it is?
[03:18] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> if its a good card?
[03:18] <mp3wolf> not really, i havent ever checked
[03:18] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> it will work out of the boz
[03:18] <GNULinuxer_> box
[03:18] <mp3wolf> its an hp zd7000 laptop
[03:18] <Razor-X> the good thing about the Das keyboard is that it's weighted
[03:18] <Razor-X> plus, I _can't_ look at the keys, I run software Dvorak
[03:19] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> right
[03:19] <bionic> command for cpu etc info ?
[03:19] <Razor-X> so, wiping the keys will have no effect on me
[03:19] <GNULinuxer_> bionic> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:19] <benplaut> nzaurus
[03:19] <benplaut> woops
[03:19] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> the weighted thing is the best
[03:19] <Razor-X> it's a very convenient way to learn to touch-type, since I can't look at the keys, there's no way I can do that
[03:19] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: of course
[03:19] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> so what do you recommend me do?
[03:19] <Razor-X> my trackball is already ergonomic, now my keyboard should be high-quality as well
[03:19] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> what's software dvorak?
[03:20] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> is it internal?
[03:20] <Razor-X> Dvorak keyboard layout applied using software
[03:20] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> yes
[03:20] <Razor-X> the home row is 'aoeu id htns'
[03:20] <kvidell> Oh I miss dvorak
[03:20] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> do an lspci and show me the output
[03:20] <kvidell> I'm too lazy to switch. it's not used at work or anything :-\
[03:20] <Razor-X> voweles on the left  hand, most-used consonants on the right
[03:20] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> why is DVORAK better than QWERTY?
[03:21] <Razor-X> it's a totally scientificall designed layout
[03:21] <Razor-X> *scientifically
[03:21] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> well im on my desktop right now, installing ubuntu on the laptop as we speak
[03:21] <coolkev> I have two files NeroLINUX-2.0.0.0-6-intel.deb  and nero-2.0.0.0_6-i386-1.tgz. Which of these is best suited for my ubuntu and how do i install from that specific one. I'm running on an AMD athlon Thunderbird which is i386 i'm guessing
[03:21] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> do it
[03:21] <kvidell> GNULinuxer_: it's faster, more ergonomic, efficient++
[03:21] <GNULinuxer_> coolkev> the deb one
[03:21] <Razor-X> from the ground up, the home row is much more effecient that the home row of QWERTY, and so are the other rows
[03:21] <GNULinuxer_> kvidell> i see
[03:21] <Razor-X> *than
[03:21] <kvidell> type-writers were originally dvorak but the typists kept getting the beaters locked
[03:21] <kvidell> so they had to create something else.. qwerty
[03:21] <Razor-X> kvidell: no, not really
[03:21] <kvidell> it's slower by nature
[03:21] <Razor-X> they were originally alphabetical
[03:21] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> im finishing installation right now, it just kicked out the boot cd
[03:21] <kvidell> oh.. well that, yes
[03:22] <Razor-X> Dvorak was engineered much after Sholes created QWERTY
[03:22] <coolkev> GNULinuxer> read the whole question and tell me how to install it
[03:22] <kvidell> (411 operators still use alphabetical key layouts x.x my sister was one)
[03:22] <coolkev> please
[03:22] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> that's not finshed yet
[03:22] <cthulfuego> And now, unless you use only one computer, you're stuck with qwerty
[03:22] <kvidell> Razor-X: You sure about that? Not what I read.
[03:22] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> yeah i know
[03:22] <Funraiser> coolkev, type sudo dpkg -i NeroLinux_your_file.deb
[03:22] <Razor-X> kvidell: one hundred percent
[03:22] <GNULinuxer_> coolkev> sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[03:22] <kvidell> hm, k
[03:22] <coolkev> ok thanks
[03:22] <GNULinuxer_> coolkev> buy me a beer
[03:22] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> i just installed this on a friends pc, really liked it, so i decided to put it on my laptop tonight
[03:22] <HrdwrBoB> coolkev: intel is still your architecture
[03:22] <GNULinuxer_> *us
[03:22] <benplaut> QWERTY's whole point is to make you type slower... so that you wouldn't jam keys on a typewriter
[03:22] <coolkev> I have at home
[03:22] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> good idea
[03:22] <HrdwrBoB> coolkev: deb is a debian package, which is an ubuntu package
[03:23] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> :)
[03:23] <coolkev> You welcome to join me
[03:23] <Razor-X> http://www.theworldofstuff.com/dvorak/
[03:23] <Razor-X> yeah, it was made to type slower, basically
[03:23] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> ill let you know when its done
[03:23] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> ok
[03:23] <DonL> I guess I learned on Qwerty and I'm probably going to stay with it
[03:24] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> why is it called DVORAK?
[03:24] <cthulfuego> GNULinuxer_: Why it is called QWERTY?
[03:24] <Razor-X> there's no point to refuse to change because of laziness
[03:24] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> are most apps free?
[03:25] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: the guy who made it, his name last name is Dvorak
[03:25] <benplaut> zthulfuego: first few kays in the top row
[03:25] <AlwaysModest> razor-x: i beg to differ, thats why i still use the english system of measurement
[03:25] <GNULinuxer_> cthulfuego> due to the sequence in which the keys are
[03:25] <sknroiws> Whats the command to check hard drive space?
[03:25] <Razor-X> AlwaysModest: that's why you use Linux? ;)
[03:25] <GNULinuxer_> sknroiws> df -h
[03:25] <exjinn> df -h
[03:25] <djs> sknirows: df
[03:25] <DonL> Razor-X, not so much because of laziness, but what I've learned, and have worked with for 30 years or so
[03:25] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> which apps?
[03:25] <Razor-X> DonL: true, I haven't done it for 30 years, but I did it for 10
[03:25] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> all apps are free
[03:26] <Razor-X> err, 9
[03:26] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> free as in freedom
[03:26] <Razor-X> from age 5 to age 14 I typed Dvorak
[03:26] <exjinn> exit
[03:26] <Razor-X> *QWERTY
[03:26] <DonL> Viva the chance to be different though
[03:26] <sknroiws> How do you unmount
[03:26] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> like dvd burning, mp3 playing, cd burning, etc
[03:26] <GNULinuxer_> sknroiws> umount
[03:26] <sknroiws> :/
[03:26] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> ALL are free
[03:26] <sknroiws> Why cant it be unmount
[03:26] <Funraiser> GNULinuxer_, so it's actually your blog that u made me read :-)
[03:26] <sknroiws> Why does it have to be confusing
[03:26] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> yessssssss
[03:26] <Razor-X> that's why a lot of typos confuse me, because when I see them, I look down at my keyboard to see whether the keys are next to each other on a Dvorak keyboard
[03:27] <Razor-X> I can do 130 ;)
[03:27] <cthulfuego> sknroiws: it can. ln -s /bin/umount /usr/local/bin/unmount
[03:27] <GNULinuxer_> sknroiws> the N was lost somewhere ... if you find it please return to the AT & T bell labs
[03:27] <Razor-X> reason enough to choose Dvorak, in my opinion
[03:27] <GNULinuxer_> Funraiser> yeah ...
[03:27] <Razor-X> up from a 90 I had on QWERTY
[03:27] <Razor-X> that's the main reason I can do full punctuation and grammar in my phrases
[03:27] <cthulfuego> sknroiws: Nobody is stopping you from aliasing the command and calling it 'wibble'.
[03:27] <DonL> 130??? Good heavens
[03:27] <sknroiws> lol
[03:27] <Razor-X> because my typing-thought tradeoff is very minimal
[03:27] <Razor-X> (but still there)
[03:28] <Razor-X> and, because I hate the word 'lol' ;)
[03:28] <DonL> lol
[03:28] <Razor-X> I specifically use 'heh', been using it through QWERTY too
[03:28] <Razor-X> even easier to use now that I have a Dvorak keyboard
[03:28] <vinux> I type 30 words per minute
[03:28] <AlwaysModest> i'm not sure how fast i type though its pretty quick
[03:28] <Razor-X> vinux: ouch, that's the average user
[03:28] <vinux> That's just because I can't spell
[03:28] <AlwaysModest> mario's teaches typing told me i didn't type very fast
[03:29] <Razor-X> I have great spelling skills, maybe that works on my favor... ;)
[03:29] <GNULinuxer_> i program as fast as i type [i use python] 
[03:29] <Razor-X> *in my
[03:29] <cthulfuego> !lol DonL
[03:29] <ubotu> cthulfuego: Bugger all, i dunno
[03:29] <cthulfuego> ubotu: You suck
[03:29] <ubotu> cthulfuego: I haven't a clue
[03:29] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> you type damn fast
[03:29] <DonL> vinux, that's what I think we have to work on
[03:29] <mp3wolf> LOL
[03:29] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: either you program slowly, or you're crazy ;)
[03:29] <vinux> Razor-X, well I think I can do 40 if I really try to go fast
[03:29] <AlwaysModest> but methinks i was using an 80386 then or something when i was 10
[03:29] <Razor-X> vinux: without thought, I can do a nice 100-120
[03:29] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> why do you think so?
[03:29] <vinux> DonL, if I rush 40
[03:29] <AlwaysModest> nah i was like 6
[03:29] <sknroiws> Is there a way to use sudo cd?
[03:29] <mp3wolf> you respond quite quickly
[03:29] <sknroiws> It says cd not found
[03:29] <vinux> Razor-X, hehe you are in the uper skill range
[03:30] <GNULinuxer_> sknroiws> what the hell are you asking?
[03:30] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> yes
[03:30] <cthulfuego> sknroiws: 'cd' is a shell builtin, not an application.
[03:30] <Funraiser> Razor-X, so u bought a new keyboard or one can learn on top of a qwerty one?
[03:30] <DonL> vinux,  maybe it's not so much of a race
[03:30] <Razor-X> AlwaysModest: after 8086, the 80286, 80386, and continuations thereof have an appended 'i'
[03:30] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> me likes
[03:30] <cthulfuego> sknroiws: Run 'sudo -s' then cd.
[03:30] <mp3wolf> haha
[03:30] <cthulfuego> sknroiws: keep in mind you'll be in a root shell.
[03:30] <Razor-X> Funraiser: can learn on a normal keyboard
[03:30] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> hah
[03:30] <vinux> DonL, yea I don't try to rush
[03:30] <Razor-X> i'm not about to spend money to switch layouts ;)
[03:30] <sknroiws> Alright
[03:30] <Funraiser> Razor-X, what do u do?
[03:30] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> is ubuntu pretty easy to get used to using?
[03:30] <Funraiser> the old one?
[03:30] <cthulfuego> Razor-X: Pulling keys and sticking 'em back on isn't exactly expensive.
[03:30] <GNULinuxer_> Funraiser> he's a stud
[03:30] <sknroiws> Could I change the permissions of the folder to allow my user to open it?
[03:30] <Razor-X> Funraiser: in linux, lemme get you the page
[03:30] <DonL> mp3wolf, I loooooove it
[03:31] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> yes ... since there is this great channel
[03:31] <Razor-X> cthulfuego: what's the point of doing that, and ruining the keyboard slant?
[03:31] <nalioth> mp3wolf: can you point and click?
[03:31] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> yeah it really is
[03:31] <cthulfuego> Razor-X: With cheap keyboards it doesn't matter
[03:31] <mp3wolf> DonL> what makes you like it so much?
[03:31] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> and in any way ... ubuntu is debian and debian rocks
[03:31] <Razor-X> Funraiser: try 'loadkeys dvorak'
[03:31] <Funraiser> k
[03:31] <AlwaysModest> mp3wolf: i like it because it makes my grape imac rev. c run fast again
[03:31] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> yeah so ive read
[03:31] <Razor-X> cthulfuego: ahh, but the packaged keyboard on this machine came with a pretty nice keyboard
[03:31] <Razor-X> and, after this i'm getting a Das Keyboard
[03:31] <Razor-X> so, no loss there
[03:31] <cthulfuego> Keep in mind that dvorak is optimised for _english_ btw, not anything else.
[03:32] <DonL> After about 6 years of trying different distros, this is the one (for me anyway)
[03:32] <Razor-X> there are other layouts, in fact
[03:32] <mp3wolf> DonL> gotcha
[03:32] <Razor-X> and while they aren't 'True Dvorak' (not made by Dvorak himself" they try and use the same mentality
[03:32] <Razor-X> *)
[03:32] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> it think its about done
[03:32] <vinux> DonL, ubuntu has taken the GOLD!
[03:32] <Funraiser> well i'm out of here see y'a
[03:33] <Razor-X> Funraiser: you can also take some mock typing courses online in Dvorak
[03:33] <Razor-X> but, I learned through experimentation, mainly
[03:33] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> oay
[03:33] <GNULinuxer_> okay
[03:33] <DonL> mp3wolf, debian is great, apt-get rocks, and synaptic is the greatest thing
[03:33] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> man this is so nice!  it just finished and im logged in
[03:33] <Razor-X> I remember thinking i'll never memorize the positions of 'c' and 'r' ;)
[03:33] <coolkev> what is a good audio cd burning software for ubuntu that lets me make no pause in between tracks, so when i play it on a cd player i don't hear a pause when it changes to next track
[03:33] <Razor-X> AlwaysModest: I correct almost all of my typos
[03:33] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> yep .. and it has pr0n too!
[03:33] <mp3wolf> DonL> what is synaptic?
[03:33] <Razor-X> again, part of my ingrained sense of netiquette
[03:33] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> LOL
[03:33] <Razor-X> mp3wolf: graphical package manager
[03:33] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> you'll see what is synaptic
[03:33] <DonL> Synaptic is a gui front-end to apt-get
[03:34] <Razor-X> I prefer aptitude, meself
[03:34] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> is the laptop connected to the net?
[03:34] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> k what did you want me to do to see wireless card?
[03:34] <mp3wolf> yeah through ethernet
[03:34] <GNULinuxer_> Razor-X> aptitude is intelligent
[03:34] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> try opening a webpage
[03:34] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer_: *gasp* XD
[03:34] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> it works
[03:35] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> great
[03:35] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> but that is through ethernet, not wireless
[03:35] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> now ... on the top right corner ... do you see a read circle?
[03:35] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> i know
[03:35] <mp3wolf> yes
[03:35] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> yes
[03:35] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> click
[03:35] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> it will update your system automatically
[03:35] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> ok doing that now
[03:36] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> 25 new updates
[03:36] <mp3wolf> LOL
[03:36] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> you are a fast learner
[03:36] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> why laugh?
[03:36] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> im kinda handy with pcs
[03:36] <DonL> There you go, mp3wolf
[03:36] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> must be a little out of date
[03:36] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> thats why i laugh
[03:36] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> Hoary was released in april ... so there will be updates
[03:36] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> oh ok
[03:37] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> guess im a little late
[03:37] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> yeah may be ... but later than never
[03:37] <DonL> mp3wolf, if you have broadband, it shouldn't take too long
[03:37] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> exactly
[03:37] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> yeah 3 mins
[03:37] <mp3wolf> DonL> yeah 3 mins
[03:37] <DonL> good
[03:37] <kvidell> oh christ
[03:38] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> Applications > System tools > Root terminal
[03:38] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> man this kernel is nice!
[03:38] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> kernel?
[03:38] <ttyS1> "# apt-get install flex"    but it tells me - "/var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" and "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" what to do? thank you :)
[03:38] <sknroiws> I have a 200GB SATA Harddrive plugged in but I cant seem to find it
[03:38] <sknroiws> :/
[03:38] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> or whatever its called
[03:38] <mp3wolf> LOL
[03:38] <GNULinuxer_> ttyS1> you have two package managers open
[03:38] <djs> ttyS1: Do you have Synaptic open?
[03:38] <nalioth> ttyS1: 1: you are not using "sudo" or 2: another apt is open somewhere
[03:38] <kvidell> I switched back to dvorak
[03:38] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> distribution
[03:38] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> k root is open
[03:39] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> oh ok
[03:39] <ttyS1> yes I have Synaptic open :)
[03:39] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> lspci
[03:39] <GNULinuxer_> ttyS1> close that
[03:39] <djs> ttyS1: close it and try again
[03:39] <ttyS1> ok :)
[03:39] <GNULinuxer_> DonL> you are old
[03:39] <Mobius> Does anyone here run a relatively new ASUS notebook?
[03:39] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> Broadcom Corporatoin BCM4306
[03:40] <DonL> GNULinuxer_, thanks. I needed to hear that!!!
[03:40] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> show me the full output
[03:40] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> does that tell you anything?
[03:40] <nalioth> mp3wolf: are you on a mac?
[03:40] <GNULinuxer_> nalioth> no
[03:40] <mp3wolf> nalioth> no on a HP
[03:40] <nalioth> GNULinuxer_: are you channeling?
[03:40] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> how can i connect to irc on ubuntu?
[03:40] <nalioth> mp3wolf: perhaps you should try one out
[03:40] <srb715> hello, i'm just curious as to where i run a command that looks like this "$ sudo mkdir /mnt/winxp"
[03:41] <nalioth> mp3wolf: many different ways
[03:41] <mp3wolf> nalioth> i wish i had now
[03:41] <nalioth> mp3wolf: xchat, irssi, others
[03:41] <GNULinuxer_> srb715> Applications > System tools > Root terminal
[03:41] <mp3wolf> nalioth> how do i open one of those?
[03:41] <srb715> ermm but it starts with a # and not a $
[03:41] <nalioth> GNULinuxer_: not required the root terminal
[03:41] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> what?
[03:42] <GNULinuxer_> nalioth> i know
[03:42] <vinux> Thunder is one of my best friends! He tells me when lightning is coming to fight with my computer :)
[03:42] <kvidell> srb715: that's just the prompt, ignore it :)
[03:42] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> show me the output
[03:42] <kvidell> that's not part of the command, it signifies that you're at a terminal
[03:42] <djs> mp3wolf: Applications -> Internet -> XChatIRC (or Gaim)
[03:42] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> im trying to connect to this channel via the ubuntu
[03:42] <GNULinuxer_> djs> XChat is better
[03:42] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> it's easy
[03:43] <kvidell> GAIM's irc is terrible :-\
[03:43] <djs> GNULinuxer_: k
[03:43] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> open xchat
[03:43] <kvidell> I use BitchX running in a screen session on my BSD file server :D
[03:43] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> k, now what
[03:43] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> what network?
[03:43] <kvidell> irc.freenode.net
[03:44] <benplaut> i hate moral issues like this...
[03:44] <GNULinuxer_> mp3wolf> if you don't find it, press Alt+F4 and type xchat
[03:44] <kvidell> what's up, benplaut?
[03:44] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> i found it
[03:44] <nalioth> ubuntu xchat is hardcoded to start up in here
[03:44] <soco> I have just installed ubuntu5.0.4; I cannot make totem play anything. Any ideas?
[03:44] <mp3wolf> GNULinuxer_> trying to coneect to freenode
[03:44] <nalioth> soco, ubotu has the answer
[03:44] <nalioth> !Restricted
[03:44] <ubotu> [restricted]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:44] <benplaut> i have a legal copy of Studio MX 2004, and yet i need Studio MX to run with WINE...
[03:44] <soco> It says it's missing plugins, but gstreamer is installed
[03:45] <lee_> hey this is mp3wolf
[03:45] <kvidell> Hio, mp3wolf^2.
[03:45] <suser> no op?
[03:46] <suser> wow
[03:46] <kvidell> suser: Read freenode's policy on "Catylysts" sometime :)
[03:46] <srb715> ermm ok i'm trying to open fstab and edit it to let me see my ntfs partition, but its read only.  how do i change that
[03:46] <sknroiws> !faq
[03:46] <ubotu> I heard faq is Frequently Asked Questions you can check it out from here ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
[03:46] <lee_> GNULinuxer> what all do you want?
[03:46] <kvidell> there are ops about but they make it a point to be quiet.
[03:46] <kvidell> srb715: edit it as root. click on your desktop and hit Alt+F2, then type "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" (without the quotie-marks)
[03:47] <benplaut> yup... i see one right now
[03:47] <srb715> ty
[03:47] <kvidell> yep
[03:47] <sasquatc4> i got a question about getting direct acceleration on my ati IGP chipset, I completely removed fglrx and restored mesa and gl to the oringal xorg releases, but im still getting indirect rendering
[03:47] <sasquatc4> anyone know how to fix this
[03:47] <benplaut> make that 2 :)
[03:48] <`psycho> anyone had experience with dc++ client for linux?
[03:48] <`psycho> i installed it like in ubuntuforums howto described...
[03:48] <`psycho> i run into a problem while hashing stuff...
[03:48] <`psycho> it finishes hashing...and starts all over again
[03:48] <`psycho> and doesn't end
[03:49] <`psycho> anyone experienced this?
[03:49] <suser> Where can I find an available package list?
[03:49] <srb715> kvidell, i just ran that but its blank?
[03:49] <nalioth> suser: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:49] <suser> shanks!
[03:49] <lee_> GNULinuxer> what all do you want?
[03:50] <GNULinuxer> lee_> i don't understand
[03:50] <x_or> Anyone having trouble running firefox under new installs of Ubuntu?  The CPU usage hits 99% when I try to run it.
[03:50] <GNULinuxer> mp3wolf> you there?
[03:50] <bphan> When you create a boot image for dual boot under windows XP, how do we know what partition we should create?
[03:50] <sknroiws> How do you format a hard drive?
[03:50] <lee_> GNULinuxer> oh sorry this is mp3wolf
[03:50] <kvidell> srb715: your fstab is blank? o.O;
[03:50] <`psycho> um?
[03:50] <`psycho> :(
[03:51] <GNULinuxer> sknroiws> mkfs
[03:51] <srb715> hmmm no, i guess it wasn't.  just user error because it works now
[03:51] <bphan>  dd if=/dev/hda1 of=linux.lnx bs=512 count=1   <= /dev/hda1 hda2... or what?
[03:51] <kvidell> ah, okay
[03:51] <lee_> GNULinuxer> what did you want me to copy and paste to you?
[03:51] <GNULinuxer> lee_> who are you?
[03:51] <GNULinuxer> mp3wolf> ?
[03:51] <lee_> yes
[03:52] <kvidell> lee == mp3wolf, GNULinuxer :)
[03:52] <lee_> haha thanks kvidell
[03:52] <GNULinuxer> lee_> don't worry i have the thing sorted
[03:52] <djs> lee_/mp3wolf: Check BCM4306 on this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:52] <sknroiws> I want to format /dev/sdb1 so would I do mkfs /dev/sdb1?
[03:52] <lee_> thanks djs
[03:52] <odie5533> How do I install the SUN JDK?
[03:52] <GNULinuxer> lee_> this is your solution
[03:52] <GNULinuxer> http://mattsmith.hostmatrix.org/zx5078cl/ubuntu.html
[03:52] <lee_> k
[03:52] <sknroiws> Or do I do the mount point
[03:52] <GNULinuxer> lee_> follow the instructions and enjoy!
[03:53] <lee_> GNULinuxer> thanks
[03:53] <GNULinuxer> lee_> buy me a beer
[03:54] <GNULinuxer> kvidell> what's that?
[03:54] <lee_> GNULinuxer> sounds like a deal, but it says to compile, how do i g?o about doing that
[03:54] <x_or> Anyone having trouble running firefox, my cpu is hitting 99% when I launch it.
[03:54] <kvidell> GNULinuxer: The only american beer I like.
[03:54] <GNULinuxer> lee_> very easy
[03:54] <lee_> GNULinuxer> Shiner Bck is a good beer
[03:54] <kvidell> It's from Texas, oddly enough
[03:54] <GNULinuxer> lee_> will be done in 2 mins
[03:54] <GNULinuxer> kvidell> aha ... i like fosters
[03:54] <lee_> GNULinuxer> k ill look at it and see what i can do
[03:55] <lee_> GNULinuxer> might have some more questions
[03:55] <GNULinuxer> lee_> wait
[03:55] <GNULinuxer> lee_> don't do anything now, just read
[03:55] <lee_> GNULinuxer> ok
[03:55] <lee_> im readin over it
[03:55] <josie> what does ubuntu use as its network manager.... and more importantly, to autoconfigure wireless stuff
[03:56] <lee_> GNULinuxer> k i think i can do this :)
[03:56] <lee_> GNULinuxer> need a nice cold guiness though, brb
[03:56] <sknroiws> I want to format /dev/sdb1 so would I do mkfs /dev/sdb1?
[03:56] <josie> what does ubuntu use as its network manager?
[03:56] <nalioth> x_or: use galeon (another web browser)
[03:57] <x_or> nalioth:  Ok, will try this.  Is there a known issue with firefox?
[03:57] <GNULinuxer> lee_> okay ... have it sorted
[03:57] <GNULinuxer> lee_> are you ready ?
[03:57] <srb715> what is synaptic?
[03:57] <GNULinuxer> srb715> damn you
[03:57] <lee_> GNULinuxer> hold on getting the files
[03:57] <GNULinuxer> lee_>
[03:57] <GNULinuxer> lee_> no no
[03:57] <GNULinuxer> lee_> do as i say
[03:58] <djs> !synaptic
[03:58] <ubotu> [synaptic]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:58] <lee_> GNULinuxer> ok
[03:58] <cthulfuego> But not as I do.
[03:58] <nalioth> x_or: not that i know of, i just find it bloated and slow
[03:58] <GNULinuxer> lee_> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:58] <lee_> GNULinuxer> do this in my terminal or root terminal?
[03:58] <nalioth> x_or: galeon uses the gecko engine, but is gtk based (i believe)
[03:58] <x_or> OK, I will try galeon.  Does galeon support plugins, like the RealPlayer and Flash?
[03:58] <x_or> Oh, OK.
[03:59] <josie> nalioth:  galeon suddenly got bloated and slow about 2 years ago
[03:59] <nalioth> x_or: yes it does all the plugins that firefox/mozilla do
[03:59] <kvidell> x_or: You could also try Dillio
[03:59] <josie> x_or: or epiphany
[03:59] <nalioth> josie: but it's still faster (imho) than firefox currently
[03:59] <lee_> GNULinuxer> do this in my terminal or root terminal?
[03:59] <GNULinuxer> talk on the private window
[03:59] <kvidell> lee_: Your own
[04:00] <kvidell> that's why he appened "sudo" to it
[04:00] <TTT_Travis|G3> hi guys
[04:00] <nalioth> x_or: dillo, kazehakaze, epiphany are all gui browswers (as weell as mozilla-suite and firefox)
[04:00] <TTT_Travis|G3> anyone think they can help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=223005&posted=1#post223005
[04:00] <schnits> I hate asking stupid questions, but I can't find the answer anywhere. I installed ubuntu and I had the GDM the graphical log-in screen. Now it says GDM is running (when the system boots up), but it uses CLI for the login. I can start the GUI via startx, but I would like it to start automatically like it did after being installed. Thanks
[04:00] <kvidell> is it "Dillo" or "Dillio" ?
[04:00] <suser> I take it apt-get is the primary package util in Ubuntu?
[04:00] <nalioth> kvidell: dillo
[04:00] <kvidell> oh, okay :) thank you.
[04:00] <nalioth> suser: yes, but you can use synaptic
[04:00] <kvidell> suser: apt-get aptitude or synaptic
[04:00] <kvidell> all use teh same backend
[04:00] <sproingie> suser: synaptic, usually.  anything that does apt is find
[04:00] <suser> What's the dif?
[04:01] <sproingie> er fine
[04:01] <kvidell> preference
[04:01] <TTT_Travis|G3> gook21
[04:01] <kvidell> synaptic is the only gui based one
[04:01] <sproingie> suser: interface.  it's all the same behind the scenes
[04:01] <suser> OH, like a front-end
[04:01] <kvidell> aptitude is CLI Synaptic
[04:01] <sproingie> kvidell: there's kynaptic ... which isn't that hot
[04:01] <kvidell> apt-get is cli with no shell
[04:01] <netsniper> im having problems with starterbar-gdesklet
[04:01] <suser> What really does the front-end give you?
[04:01] <kvidell> (referring to the fact that aptitude starts up this big "environemtn" that looks like emacs)
[04:01] <kvidell> suser: clickability
[04:01] <kvidell> hehe
[04:01] <TTT_Travis|G3> anyone here use MythTV?
[04:02] <kvidell> aptitude remembers deps better than the other two
[04:02] <suser> It seems to simple a process to require a front-end...
[04:02] <sproingie> you fools, dselect shall be your only package manager, muahahaha
[04:02] <suser> *too
[04:02] <netsniper> i cannot add anything to my starterbar-gdesklet app
[04:02] <kvidell> The front ends make it easier to interface with the repositories I think
[04:02] <schnits> how do I get the graphical log-in screen to come up?
[04:02] <kvidell> haha.. or dselect :-P
[04:02] <RedMenace> Are there any good java IDEs available for AMD64 Hoary?
[04:02] <suser> Thanks for the quick answers, this chan gets a 10 out of 11!
[04:02] <suser> GN all!
[04:03] <cthulfuego> RedMenace: Sun has one.
[04:03] <netsniper> RedMenace, Borland JBuilder?
[04:03] <netsniper> RedMenace, or Eclipse?
[04:03] <x_or> I have a good friend who loves IDEA for Java dev.
[04:03] <cthulfuego> RedMenace: And any of them run in the 32bit chroot.
[04:03] <RedMenace> Hmmmm, I'm in no way a linux pro ... no idea what chroot is
[04:03] <kvidell> schnits: try looking around in gdmsetup
[04:04] <kvidell> I'm not sure as I don't use linux graphically much anymore but I think that was the command to get the gdm config
[04:04] <cthulfuego> RedMenace: it'sa way to have a 32bit Linux install running under your 64bit one.
[04:04] <RedMenace> I would need to install the 32bit Jdk as well, right?
[04:04] <netsniper> RedMenace, dont listen to that guy anyways -- 32-bit apps will run without chroot
[04:04] <cthulfuego> RedMenace: if you installed in a chroot, yes.
[04:04] <sproingie> yep.  doesn't eclipse run on amd64's jdk?
[04:05] <netsniper> RedMenace, just download any 32-bit app and try it -- will work fine
[04:05] <sproingie> netsniper: yeah but since apt doesn't support dual architectures, the only way to get packages is with a chroot
[04:05] <cthulfuego> netsniper: Just coz you can doesn't mean you _should_.
[04:05] <nalioth> schnits: i'im not sure how to get the graphical login screen to come up, but you can put "startx &" in your .bashrc and once you log in, x will start
[04:05] <netsniper> hehe
[04:05] <cthulfuego> sproingie: Well, you can fetch then via ftp and force install by ignoring the arch.
[04:05] <RedMenace> Any good guides on how to use chroot to run 32bit apps?
[04:05] <sproingie> nalioth: and it'll start up on every xterm you launch
[04:06] <kvidell> nalioth: could it be a runlevel problem?
[04:06] <netsniper> sproingie, ahhh...i installed the pre-compiled binary of cedega without a chroot and it worked fine on gentoo amd64
[04:06] <cthulfuego> RedMenace: yes. let me find it for you.
[04:06] <schnits> I will try those, and come back with results, thanks
[04:06] <TTT_Travis|G3> anyone think they can help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=223005&posted=1#post223005
[04:06] <netsniper> Anyone use gdesklets?
[04:06] <sproingie> netsniper: gentoo probably supports dual architectures with its package manager.  apt does not
[04:06] <cthulfuego> RedMenace: https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id274293
[04:06] <nalioth> sproingie: really? so where would it go then?
[04:07] <netsniper> sproingie, possibly...
[04:07] <x_or> schnits:  Haven't been follwing your thread, but are you in the wrong runlevel?  If you bump the runlevel it might start gdm/kdm/xdm which are the GUI login managers.
[04:07] <cthulfuego> sproingie: Gentoo hardly supports *one* arch <heh>
[04:07] <sproingie> cthulfuego: apt only supports one.  it has no concept of installing the same package with different architectures
[04:07] <nalioth> schnits: don't run off, we got to have a committee discussion on this
[04:07] <cthulfuego> sproingie: Rather then using sid (as in the HOWTO) , use hoary.
[04:08] <cthulfuego> I should just UML them
[04:08] <cthulfuego> x_or: debian/ubuntu don't work that way.
[04:08] <cthulfuego> !32bit chroot is https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id274293
[04:08] <ubotu> cthulfuego: okay
[04:08] <cthulfuego> kvidell: What about amputees?
[04:09] <RedMenace> Is chroot how people use flash with firefox?   32bit firefox and flash under chroot?
[04:09] <netsniper> Who uses starterbar-gdesklet???
[04:09] <sproingie> why use the debian howto?  there's a great post on ubuntu forums
[04:09] <kvidell> cthulfuego: What about Steven Hawking?
[04:09] <cthulfuego> RedMenace: Sane people don't use flash. In 64 OR 32 bit.
[04:09] <RedMenace> Well, sometimes I go to pages that have flash animations and such
[04:09] <Kyral> I need Flash
[04:09] <sproingie> !no, 32bit chroot is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[04:09] <cthulfuego> kvidell: insane!
[04:09] <Kyral> I am addicted to Nanaca Crash!
[04:10] <netsniper> heheh for flash, use the lynx flash2text plugin converter!
[04:10] <kvidell> actually I have a thinkpad t42p running Hoary
[04:10] <kvidell> I like it, just wifi is... toasted
[04:10] <netsniper> anyone have an intel box running OSX yet?
[04:10] <maruchan> how do you make the terminal transpert
[04:10] <nalioth> cthulfuego: howz that little bugger do on stock ram?
[04:10] <sknroiws> How do i change the permissions of a mounted hard drive?
[04:10] <kvidell> netsniper: I tried that
[04:10] <netsniper> kvidell, you dont have wifi working?
[04:11] <kvidell> I downloaded a 700 meg iso of OSX for x86
[04:11] <netsniper> kvidell, did you get goatse.cxd?
[04:11] <kvidell> it booted in to a big picture of goatse's ass
[04:11] <maruchan> ha
[04:11] <netsniper> heeheh
[04:11] <netsniper> me too
[04:11] <sophie_msumu> spurs <------- youu looooooooooose
[04:11] <cthulfuego> nalioth: Should be fine. I'm gettign a single stick of Legend DDR3200
[04:11] <netsniper> but there are dev CDs out there of OSX86
[04:11] <kvidell> netsniper: Nah... I have a Cisco Aironet chipset in my laptop and IPv6 breaks it _bad_
[04:11] <RedMenace> yah, OSX on not apple machines is going to take a while, if it ever happens
[04:11] <cthulfuego> netsniper: I had Darwin x86 running 2 years ago, does that count?
[04:11] <kvidell> RedMenace: No.. iut already exists
[04:12] <nalioth> cthulfuego: i'm a "more power" kinda guy, and will probably buy a large stick when i buy my new mini, but just wondered how it did stocl
[04:12] <netsniper> kvidell, i have ipv6 on my T30 -- no problems
[04:12] <kvidell> The Mac Devs have had a working OSX for x86 since the initial launch
[04:12] <netsniper> cthulfuego, thats not OSX!
[04:12] <cthulfuego> nalioth: Just 512Mb in there now. it's OK, but when you have a few apps open it starts swapping.
[04:12] <RedMenace> Yah, they switched to intel processors, but the OS is going to have to be hacked.   Their using hardware IDs to make sure it won't run on non apple machines
[04:12] <cthulfuego> netsniper: It is. Just minus the eyecandy.
[04:12] <kvidell> netsniper: yes, but is that with the airnonet upgrade or the standard intel wifi?
[04:12] <x_or> What do I need to do to use SSL with Galeon?  In what package is PSM?
[04:12] <Kyral> 512 MB is all you really need now for a Linux System (heck for a XP system too)
[04:12] <sproingie> RedMenace: i give it 48 hours before it's hacked
[04:13] <netsniper> kvidell, i have an aironet
[04:13] <Kyral> Its already hacked
[04:13] <kvidell> I have the Aironet in my T30 as well and that took a lot of fandangling to get working
[04:13] <kvidell> weird
[04:13] <nalioth> cthulfuego: so i wonder which chip it takes to be changed so we can put more than is curretntly allowed in it?...
[04:13] <netsniper> kvidell, just modprobe airo
[04:13] <kvidell> maybe it's just the 42p then
[04:13] <kvidell> nah
[04:13] <kvidell> that doesn't help
[04:13] <nalioth> x_or: mozilla-psm will do
[04:13] <kvidell> I've done this a few times, don't worry :-P
[04:13] <cthulfuego> nalioth: Ey?
[04:13] <sasquatc4> so anyone? direct rendering on an ati laptop?
[04:13] <nalioth> cthulfuego: the mini maxxes at 1gb, right? wonder what diode needs changing to allow more?
[04:14] <kvidell> I think I could fix it but the kernels wont compile
[04:14] <kvidell> 2.6.10 doesn't like the 42p
[04:14] <cthulfuego> nalioth: Unless you can *afford* a 2GB stick...
[04:14] <kvidell> that's how I got it working on my old t30
[04:14] <sknroiws> How do i change the permissions of a mounted hard drive?
[04:14] <nalioth> cthulfuego: money no object, i have 2 livers (i think)
[04:14] <cthulfuego> nalioth: if that were the case you'd have bought an SMP G5 anyway <heh>
[04:14] <kvidell> cthulfuego: Mac ram is cheap... as long as you don't buy it from apple...
[04:14] <synd> kvidell: ram is ram, yes
[04:14] <netsniper> Anyone use GDESKLET?
[04:14] <cthulfuego> kvidell: Sticks of 2 GB cost FAR more than an actual mac mini here.
[04:15] <kvidell> where's "here"? :-P
[04:15] <synd> 2GB RAM is overkill in mac mini :p
[04:15] <kvidell> oh, aussie, I see
[04:15] <cthulfuego> straya
[04:15] <schnits> GDMsetup doesn't have what I'm looking for, and the bashrc solution may work, but it's a little....less pretty (I'm building boxes for little ol' ladies and what have you)
[04:15] <kvidell> yea... they kind of hop the price up on exported stuff
[04:15] <cthulfuego> kvidell: And to make it worse they stick taxes on top here
[04:16] <nalioth> cthulfuego: i'm gonna get one of those, two
[04:16] <nalioth> cthulfuego: the mini is for my car
[04:16] <sproingie> amd's mobile chips aren't that great
[04:16] <nalioth> hard to fit a dual-G5 under the seat
[04:16] <cthulfuego> sproingie: Mebbe, but at the end of the day my XP-M 2000 outprforms a P4-M
[04:16] <netsniper> sproingie, excucse me?  I have athlon64 mobile!  rox0rs j00r boxers!
[04:17] <sproingie> and their volume is probably not too good either, they've probably maxed out their fab just making opterons and athlons
[04:17] <nalioth> schnits: they are right, the bashrc will try to spawn a new xserver every terminal you open
[04:17] <sproingie> intel's the only one that can just crank a knob and make more chips on demand
[04:17] <cthulfuego> sproingie: yes, but they're shit.
[04:17] <schnits> how does one find their run level? I beleive I am in run level 2, and when I try init 5, I get stopping/starting anacron and thats it
[04:17] <sproingie> they're apparently good enough shit
[04:17] <sknroiws> I mounted my hard drive but I cant open it
[04:18] <cthulfuego> Yes, with built-in DRM and everything.
[04:18] <sknroiws> It says I dont have the right permissions
[04:18] <sproingie> you're probably not their market :)
[04:18] <cthulfuego> Even if it means using my P300 in the year 2025
[04:18] <cthulfuego> s/P300/P2/300
[04:18] <TTT_Travis|G3> anyone here that knows how to use Apache think they can help me?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=223005&posted=1#post223005
[04:19] <sproingie> i'm just unhappy that the cpu market is losing even more diversity
[04:19] <sproingie> what's left, sparc?
[04:20] <sasquatc4> mmmm sparc
[04:21] <sproingie> maybe we'll see some nifty cell thinkpads.  or maybe they'll be another crusoe
[04:22] <nalioth> sproingie: i hope the Cell lives up to its hype
[04:22] <vinux> Anybody know how to fix choppyness in mplayer's plugin for mozilla?
[04:22] <nalioth> vinux: is DMA enabled?
[04:23] <vinux> nalioth, you mean for my hardrive?
[04:24] <vinux> nalioth, I don't understand i'm downloading for internet
[04:24] <vinux> nalioth, streaming
[04:24] <nalioth> vinux: sorry, my fingers saw "choppy playback" and they typed that DMA thing
[04:24] <vinux> nalioth, np
[04:24] <vinux> nalioth, we all make mistakes and yes even me
[04:24] <vinux> nalioth, :)
[04:25] <nalioth> vinux: well enabling DMA is a given (for me)
[04:25] <vinux> nalioth, yea hehe
[04:26] <Kyral> Anyone know where I can get a good OS X Icon Theme?
[04:26] <GNULinuxer> Kyral> yeah
[04:26] <Kyral> Can't find one I like on art.gnome.org nor gnome-look
[04:26] <GNULinuxer> Kyral> Tuxntosh
[04:26] <Kyral> link?
[04:26] <nalioth> Kyral: buy a mac mini
[04:27] <nalioth> Kyral: live it every day
[04:27] <Kyral> Why? When I can theme out GNOME easy? :P
[04:27] <schnits> I channged /etc/inittab to id:5:initdefault: fron id:2:initdefault:  and it didn't change anything when I rebooted
[04:27] <vinux> nalioth, i'm going to try gxine and uninstall mplayer
[04:27] <sproingie>  does hdparm make any difference with sata drives?
[04:27] <nalioth> vinux: why?
[04:27] <sproingie> they're pretty zippy already, but faster is always better :)
[04:28] <Curlydave> hey
[04:28] <Curlydave> Linux=fragile
[04:28] <kvidell> Hi Dave.
[04:28] <Curlydave> my brother's comp won't boot up
[04:28] <Curlydave> hi kvidell
[04:28] <kvidell> Not getting an answer on the forum I take it? hehe
[04:28] <sproingie> Curlydave: that's because you assigned fragile to linux
[04:28] <vinux> nalioth, mplayer-plugin stops around 5 seconds into video then studders from then on on ever video i've played
[04:28] <Curlydave> he ran some auto update and now all get gets on bootup is a cursor
[04:28] <sproingie> try Linux=robust and it should be ok
[04:28] <Curlydave> sproingie: lol
[04:28] <nalioth> vinux: yes, it sux for me, too
[04:28] <nalioth> vinux: but thats no reason to remove mplayer itself
[04:28] <Curlydave> how do you get the interface back?
[04:28] <kvidell> hm.. does it get past the bios?
[04:29] <Curlydave> sproingie: lol your nuts
[04:29] <Curlydave> yea
[04:29] <vinux> nalioth, well I use totem for DVDs and other videos so I don't really need it
[04:29] <kvidell> then grub loads and it tries to throw boot control to the kernel and it hangs there?
[04:29] <Curlydave> it boots up with a mouse cursor and it's possible to get to a shell
[04:29] <kvidell> Oh
[04:29] <Curlydave> naw it gets past grub
[04:29] <kvidell> oh.. he broke gdm?
[04:29] <vinux> nalioth, I could try to build it from source
[04:30] <vinux> nalioth, I used to compile in slackware all the time
[04:30] <nalioth> vinux: that is probably why mine works. i build it from source
[04:30] <Curlydave> yea totally
[04:30] <Curlydave> he says he got realplayer
[04:30] <Curlydave> and isntalled an update that it asked him to
[04:31] <vinux> nalioth, cool that's what i'll do. Do you remember anything specail you had to do? like --configure stuff for the mplayer-plugin? just the plugin that is. I can't remeber how it went with me
[04:32] <teethdood> I'm new to Ubuntu, just curious about when the next Ubuntu release would come out now that  Sarge is out
[04:32] <nalioth> vinux: nah, i just compiled it
[04:32] <nalioth> teethdood: october
[04:32] <vinux> nalioth, k
[04:33] <foxiness> hi,where is hibernate.conf on ubuntu ? or is there file to config hibernate to load or unload model?
[04:34] <teethdood> is there a umm..."nightly" of the Ubuntu's Sarge version?
[04:34] <crimsun> teethdood: no, but there's the "sid" equivalent called "breezy"
[04:34] <sknroiws> My keyboard has suddenly just stopped working
[04:34] <sknroiws> Whats wrong?
[04:35] <kvidell> seems to work just fine
[04:35] <sknroiws> Im on a different computer
[04:35] <auk> yippeeee!!!!!
[04:35] <sknroiws> I cant even login
[04:35] <kvidell> :-P sorry. I figured that
[04:35] <sknroiws> I had just installed new themes
[04:35] <Curlydave> hey sorry i left
[04:35] <Curlydave> i'm back
[04:35] <sknroiws> And I started using a new one
[04:36] <sknroiws> Then around 10 mins later
[04:36] <sknroiws> My keyboard just stopped
[04:36] <Curlydave> is ther ea way to get the normal desktop back?
[04:36] <foxiness> sknroiws, did you copy backup-and-restore this to a new one ? from old one
[04:36] <sknroiws> ?
[04:36] <bphan> how do I install grub elsewhere?
[04:36] <bphan> and not in the mbr?
[04:36] <sknroiws> The theme I was using was called simple or something
[04:36] <foxiness> setup (hd0,n)
[04:36] <sknroiws> I cant even login anymore
[04:37] <foxiness> setup (hd0) = mbr
[04:37] <foxiness> change n to where you want the grub be
[04:37] <bphan> does hdx correlate with hdax
[04:37] <davidmcc`> hey folks. Does ubuntu have anything like gentoo's rc-update?
[04:38] <auk> apt-get ?
[04:38] <foxiness> 0 = 1 or hda1 = hd0
[04:38] <crimsun> davidmcc`: what does gentoo's rc-update accomplish?
[04:38] <davidmcc`> crimsun: adds and removes things from runlevels very easily.
[04:38] <foxiness> sorry
[04:38] <bphan> i see thanks
[04:38] <auk> oh.
[04:38] <davidmcc`> crimsun: "rc-update add mydaemon default"
[04:38] <foxiness> nps
[04:39] <maydayj> davidmcc - rc-update is the same as Gentoo
[04:39] <ninwa> How do I add "backports" (backports.ubuntu.org) to my repository list. I need to download mono 1.1.6+ and the normal repositories do not contain this, and the documentation said for ubuntu users to use the aforementioned backport site. Do I browse it and download the .deb files, or is there a way to add this to my repository list?
[04:39] <asadf> my computers so old it doesnt have any sensors
[04:39] <foxiness> where are the file to config the hibernate ?
[04:39] <crimsun> davidmcc`: man update-rc.d
[04:39] <davidmccabe`> thanks folks.
[04:39] <foxiness> ninwa, read ubuntuguide.org
[04:39] <maydayj> rc.update tomcat default
[04:40] <nalioth> ninwa: i advise you to 'comment out' any backports or marillat repositorys after you have gotten the program you want
[04:41] <auk> yeah
[04:41] <ninwa> foxiness, I don't have time to read the entire guide, could you be more specific? My question was two-part. Is backports a repository, and how do I add it? I've used synaptic's add repository and tried that way, adding 'deb [url] ', to no avail.
[04:41] <nalioth> ninwa: using backports and marillat on a regular basis can cause inability to upgrade
[04:41] <foxiness> nalioth, ?
[04:41] <ninwa> nalioth, I would have, I understand that.
[04:41] <maydayj> davidmccabe - check http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28
[04:41] <nalioth> !Repositories
[04:41] <ubotu> well, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:42] <sasquatc4> you dont have to read the entire guide, the instructions for adding them are directly at the top of the freakin guide
[04:42] <foxiness> ninwa, if you dont have time to search the gudie did i have one ?
[04:42] <foxiness> guide - gudie
[04:43] <sknroiws> Im stuck I cant loging
[04:43] <sknroiws> login*
[04:43] <sknroiws> I cant figure out what do to
[04:43] <sknroiws> to do ><
[04:43] <foxiness> sknroiws, you can not login on GUI
[04:44] <sknroiws> oo
[04:44] <sknroiws> Thats right
[04:44] <auk> nalioth: hehe i know firsthand
[04:44] <foxiness> sknroiws, what is the error msg
[04:44] <mdipi> hey all, can someone tell me how i can check if i have glib?
[04:45] <nalioth> mdipi: use synaptic?
[04:45] <foxiness> mdipi, synaptic
[04:45] <mdipi> :D thanks
[04:45] <levander> Is there an easy to use piece of software that will monitor all the network communications on my machine, and tell me when my client machine has made an http request, then let me click on the http request to view the headers?  And, do the same thing for other protocols?
[04:45] <levander> Although, http is probably the most important.
[04:45] <schnits> if anyone is still following my problem I accomplished a graphical log in with apt-get kdm...now to see if kdm can do xdmcp
[04:46] <levander> damn, slow night
[04:47] <maydayj> lavender - etherreal is a great traffic analyzer
[04:47] <llama_> Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia.
[04:47] <auk> levander: hardly!
[04:47] <bphan> foxiness, am I suppose to enter the command setup (hd0, n) under grub?
[04:47] <s4br3> Hi nomasteryoda! (this is Kent)
[04:48] <bphan> if yes,  what is "n"?
[04:48] <nomasteryoda> s4br3, hey man
[04:48] <sknroiws> How do I fix my gui now
[04:48] <s4br3> nomasteryoda, just missed you in fairuseday
[04:48] <nomasteryoda> s4br3, you'd be proud... using combination of Ubuntu and Debian.... latest kernel
[04:49] <s4br3> nomasteryoda, Isn't that "dangerous" with ubuntu?
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> er, maybe... but this is for testing
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> =)
[04:49] <s4br3> :-)
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> i'm morphing it into pure debian
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> my brother has me convinced
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> he's gone pure deb
[04:50] <llama_> will ubuntu ever have a nice and pretty splash screen (not just an ugly 30kb picture)? this is on most major distros, and of all of them ubuntu should have this, linux for human beings not robot-like super fast readers
[04:50] <sknroiws> I cant login on the gui
[04:50] <sknroiws> How do I fix the gui
[04:50] <llama_> on starpup
[04:51] <foxiness> bphan, there is how-to on forum read it
[04:51] <llama_> startup*
[04:51] <sknroiws> Yes
[04:51] <bphan> okay thanks
[04:51] <s4br3> nomasteryoda, I'm still not convinced about debian. I keep hearing less than good things. I also don't want to wait for a LONG time for new versions.
[04:51] <foxiness> nps
[04:51] <sknroiws> How do I change my theme to the default?
[04:51] <nalioth> s4br3: then use ubuntu
[04:51] <llama_> what does debian have that ubuntu doesnt?
[04:51] <levander> llama_: just make sure I know how to disable it if they do that, i hate when there's a big logo blocking error messages that i gotta see to figure out why the box is not booting
[04:52] <s4br3> nalioth, thats why I'm looking. :-)
[04:52] <HrdwrBoB> llama_: more packages
[04:52] <llama_> ahh
[04:52] <llama_> lavender: of course ;)
[04:52] <foxiness> llama_, kindhart :)
[04:52] <llama_> :)
[04:52] <levander> llama_: and i would consider debian stable more stable than the current ubuntu release
[04:52] <llama_> oh
[04:52] <llama_> hmm
[04:52] <levander> llama_: more stable for like production server use
[04:52] <llama_> ya i guess
[04:53] <llama_> debian is nice
[04:53] <maydayj> lavender - check http://linux.box.sk/codebox.links.php?&key=netwmonit
[04:53] <levander> llama_: just because the packages are older and so have been more tested
[04:53] <llama_> true, very true
[04:53] <nalioth> s4br3: ubuntu has us
[04:53] <nomasteryoda> ubuntu is nice, don't get me wrong
[04:53] <llama_> ya
[04:53] <levander> maydayj: you like that better then etherreal?
[04:53] <s4br3> Debian is rock solid stable, but it is a bit fossilised when you finally get it. :-)
[04:54] <llama_> heh
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> esp because of the freedom
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> s4br3, yea
[04:54] <zyth> back!
[04:54] <zyth> all can rejoice!
[04:54] <sknroiws> Is there any way to fix my theme?
[04:54] <llama_> can anyone help me? i connected to my network, have very good signal (wireless) yet i still dont receive packets or access the internet, even computers on the same network
[04:54] <llama_> i have an ibook
[04:54] <llama_> airport
[04:55] <llama_> 802.11b
[04:55] <maydayj> lavender - there are a number of tools listed on that page.  I have used etherreal on a few occasions ...  haven't really developed a preference ... just use what gets the job done usually.
[04:55] <llama_> yes nalioth im still on it ;)
[04:55] <levander> maydayj: oh, i just figured it out, it's a list of applications, thanks
[04:55] <nalioth> llama_: got your WEP figgered out?
[04:55] <llama_> ya
[04:55] <GNULinuxer> lee_> mp3wolf --> read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[04:55] <llama_> used numbers i got from my mac
[04:55] <bob2> llama_: wep? wpa?
[04:55] <llama_> not my normal pass
[04:55] <maydayj> llama - using DHCP?
[04:55] <llama_> wep
[04:55] <sknroiws> Should I just reinstall the operating system :/
[04:55] <llama_> yes, dhcp
[04:55] <bob2> llama_: disable wep and see if it works
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> s4br3, i got braincramps looking thru all the Debian packages
[04:56] <sasquatc4> you take down your eth0 connection first?
[04:56] <llama_> the "administrator" is paranoid
[04:56] <maydayj> Getting an address other than 169.x.x.x?
[04:56] <levander> maydayj: the tool i want basically spies on what requests this application i'm evaluating sends out to the server.  I don't even know what protocol is using to make these requests, even though I kind of assume it's http.
[04:56] <llama_> maydayj: 10.0.1.5
[04:56] <s4br3> nomasteryoda, LOL! That can be a hazard with debian.
[04:56] <levander> maydayj: gotta recommendation?
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> yea
[04:56] <ttyS1> bye
[04:56] <llama_> bye
[04:56] <maydayj> llama - Is there MAC filtering on your Wifi router?
[04:57] <llama_> uhh
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> like 12 ways to Sunday to "autoconfigure" your wifi
[04:57] <sasquatc4> llama_: ifconfig eth0 down
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> or eth
[04:57] <llama_> k
[04:57] <nalioth> llama_: is using a apple base stationg "g" variety
[04:57] <maydayj> lavender - You could monitor with netstat to watch open traffic.
[04:57] <llama_> well i receive no packets but send a lot
[04:57] <llama_> :/
[04:58] <llama_> my base doesnt trust ubuntu :(
[04:58] <levander> maydayj: but I want to view the actual requests and responses in the protocol.  Like, if it's http, I want to see the http headers themselves.
[04:58] <nalioth> llama_: are any of the macs running osx directly wired into the router?
[04:58] <llama_> no
[04:58] <llama_> y nalioth?
[04:58] <nalioth> llama_: can you get one and plug it in?
[04:58] <llama_> locked up
[04:58] <llama_> the adminstrator is gone
[04:58] <llama_> its in his place
[04:58] <llama_> yes he's VERY paranoid
[04:59] <nalioth> llama_: well crap!
[04:59] <llama_> yup lol
[04:59] <maydayj> lavender - netstat -p -a will list all traffic and PIDs associated with them
[04:59] <Chadwill> any1 that can help me with this error msg: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b94/nanochad/anarchy.jpg
[04:59] <nalioth> llama_: tryin to test your machine with a nother wifi point
[04:59] <sasquatc4> llama_: did you try ifconfig eth0 down?
[04:59] <Curlydave> hey
[04:59] <llama_> booting...
[04:59] <sasquatc4> and then dhclient wlan0 again
[04:59] <Curlydave> so does anyone know how to get into gnome?
[04:59] <Curlydave> i can get into x but not gnome
[05:00] <Chadwill> write protected ..or what?
[05:00] <miracleblue> hey guys, I have a question, uh, how do i move a folder into another directory using the terminal?
[05:00] <Curlydave> i used to know the anser to that but i forgot
[05:00] <miracleblue> mm so did i
[05:00] <sasquatc4> took me a good while to realize thats why my wifi wasnt working, knew it was setup properly and what not and just wasnt working, then realized that even though i did not have an ethernet cable plugged in, it was still bringing eth0 up, the moment i took it down, wifi worked
[05:00] <Curlydave> you could just pull a "gksudo nautilus
[05:00] <maydayj> miracleblue - man mv
[05:00] <bob2> miracleblue: mv
[05:00] <Curlydave> and just move it with the gui
[05:01] <llama_> sasquatc4: sounds ok
[05:01] <miracleblue> hmm, ill give that a try
[05:01] <nomasteryoda> s4br3, the latest kernel made my laptop faster... IMHO
[05:01] <MinDUrBzns> hi
[05:01] <s4br3> nomasteryoda, 2.6?
[05:01] <sasquatc4> so usually that would be my first suggestion, if your pretty sure your wep and everything else is alright
[05:01] <nomasteryoda> 2.6.12-1-686
[05:01] <vinux> nalioth, woot just got my mplayer-plugin working
[05:02] <llama_> by the way, my card is eth1 for some reason, and is only in ubuntu, otherwise eth0
[05:02] <vinux> nalioth, works awsome now
[05:02] <sasquatc4> wierd
[05:02] <nalioth> vinux: great!
[05:02] <Xenguy> hello - can anyone recommend a HOWTO type document on setting up the ability to see windows network drives on Ubunut?
[05:02] <Xenguy> *Ubuntu
[05:02] <nalioth> !samba
[05:02] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[05:02] <s4br3> nomasteryoda, cool. Yea, 2.6.11 has been working well for me. Unfortuntely, FC4 just came out. Still wondering whether I should switch to something else.
[05:02] <Xenguy> ubotu: OK, but I don't want to run a Samba server; just the client, yes?
[05:02] <ubotu> Xenguy: You are moron #1
[05:02] <nomasteryoda> s4br3, lol
[05:02] <nomasteryoda> yea
[05:03] <llama_> why does my laptop take a strange length of time booting in "configuring network interfaces"?
[05:03] <vinux> nalioth, I had to install gtk2.0 and libxmp.dev
[05:03] <Xenguy> ubotu: and who are you I wonder :p
[05:03] <ubotu> Xenguy: okay
[05:03] <nalioth> llama_: they all do that
[05:03] <MinDUrBzns> where can i get the bootlogd daemon ?
[05:03] <llama_> ahh god
[05:03] <nalioth> llama_: there is a 2 minute timeframe
[05:03] <llama_> good*
[05:03] <nomasteryoda> s4br3, SuSE 9.3 on this laptop got cludgey so I updated Ubuntu to breezy, then Debian unstable
[05:03] <vinux> nalioth, I mean libxpm
[05:03] <MinDUrBzns> I cant find it in the cache
[05:03] <maydayj> Xenguy - www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:03] <nalioth> llama_: if you feel brave, ubuntuguide has a entry on how to break, er speed up ypur boot time
[05:04] <llama_> ooooo
[05:04] <nalioth> vinux: a lot of my stuff is self-compiled
[05:04] <Xenguy> maydayj: I saw that URL, and instructions for samba *server*, but not for the *client* - am I wrong?
[05:04] <s4br3> nomasteryoda, I didn't think standard debian was completely compatible with ubuntu. Diff. packages etc.
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> s4br3, yea
[05:04] <Chadwill> any1 that can help me with this error msg: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b94/nanochad/anarchy.jpg
[05:04] <Chadwill> what does it mean?
[05:04] <llama_> okay i did ifconfig eth1 down
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> s4br3, i found that out ... so installed what apt recommended... usually Debian pkgs
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> working ok so far
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> even wifi
[05:05] <llama_> what after ifconfig eth1 down?
[05:05] <s4br3> nomasteryoda, Total install from scratch might work better. :-)
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> s4br3, true
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> even my i855 vidio works
[05:05] <s4br3> It may bite you later
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> without any tweaking...
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> nah
[05:06] <kalias> Is there a way to encrypt files in linux?
[05:06] <maydayj> Xenguy - You might try this as well - http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/  if you don't have the kernel module
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> i'm only using to play
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> =)
[05:06] <s4br3> kalias, GPG
[05:06] <sasquatc4> llama_: i guess try a dhclient wlan0
[05:06] <sasquatc4> and see if you get an ip
[05:06] <llama_> wlan0?
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> living life on the edge... kinda like #FairUseDay
[05:06] <llama_> k
[05:06] <s4br3> nomasteryoda, cool lol
[05:06] <kalias> is that something I need to install or does the system come with it?
[05:06] <sasquatc4> or whatever your wireless device is numbered or named
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> sasquatc4, what about dhcpcd wlan0
[05:07] <llama_> k
[05:07] <jbn-o> Where can I find an inotify-enabled kernel for Ubuntu Hoary?  Preferably a 686 SMP kernel?
[05:07] <sasquatc4> sure, i dunno, ive always used dhclient tho, on both ubuntu and bsd
[05:07] <llama_> so whats port 67?
[05:07] <maydayj> llama - What kind of wifi card are you running?
[05:07] <sasquatc4> but i guess it depends on the system
[05:07] <s4br3> kalias, not sure, but most likely already there. Try "man gpg"
[05:07] <llama_> airport
[05:07] <Xenguy> nalioth maydayj thanks
[05:07] <bob2> jbn-o: it's broken
[05:07] <kalias> thanks.  Also is it possible to create hidden file?  If so, how?
[05:08] <s4br3> kalias, There are GUI front ends for it too.
[05:08] <llama_> .filename
[05:08] <maydayj> llama - Do you know what kind of chipset airport uses?
[05:08] <jbn-o> bob2: what's broken?
[05:08] <llama_> hmm
[05:08] <llama_> pci?
[05:08] <bob2> jbn-o: inotify in the hoary kernels
[05:08] <nalioth> maydayj: i don't think its llama_ hardware, i think its the AP he's accessing
[05:08] <bob2> jbn-o: why do you want it?
[05:08] <s4br3> kalias, Like kgpg for kde.
[05:08] <jbn-o> bob2: I'm trying to get Beagle to be useful.
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> llama_, can you run this command? ... sudo nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24 ... that is if nmap is installed and that is your subnet
[05:09] <llama_> k...
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> it will tell you what, if anything is on the lan
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> including you
[05:10] <kalias> gpg is installed, I can man it.  Thanks.  Here is a system sort of question.  How do you create an icon for an application. For instance I play with xboard and have to run it from the run box.  I would like to do this with an icon instead.
[05:10] <llama_> nmap: command not found
[05:10] <tehmasp> i'm trying to install realplayer, doing a 'apt-get install realpayer' from a ubuntuguide.org, does realplayer go by a different package name??
[05:10] <s4br3> kalias, It's possible to create "hidden" files so that certain users can't see them. Don't remember off hand how. Look into file permissions.
[05:10] <bob2> llama_: you'd need to install it...
[05:10] <llama_> o
[05:10] <jbn-o> bob2: I guess I'll wait to reevaluate Ubuntu until they have that ironed out...perhaps Beagle will be a part of the default install by then.
[05:10] <kalias> okay, I will :)
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> llama_, ifconfig -a
[05:11] <llama_> ya
[05:11] <maydayj> llama - nalioth : I know there is a Broadcom chipset issue and I think Airport used that chipset on some versions...
[05:11] <bob2> jbn-o: er, ok then
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> is there an IP for wlan0?
[05:11] <shido> 4th quarter
[05:11] <llama_> HWaddr?
[05:11] <miracleblue> uhm, another question, does anyone know what folder mplayer uses to find codecs in my system?
[05:11] <bob2> jbn-o: it was broken for everyone back in the day; you're welcome to compile your own 2.6.12 kernel if you feel it's that neccessary
[05:11] <miracleblue> or what folder i would install codecs in?
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> llama_, do this too... dmesg | grep bcm
[05:11] <TTT_Travis|G3> anyone here that knows how to use Apache think they can help me?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=223005&posted=1#post223005
[05:11] <llama_> k
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> llama_,  should show its type
[05:12] <maydayj> thx nmy
[05:12] <jbn-o> bob2: yes, I could, but I'm trying to evaluate this from a novice's perspective, since I'm told that Ubuntu is *the* GNU/Linux distribution for people who are new to the OS.  I don't think many beginners are going to recompile anything.
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> Mayday, np
[05:13] <kalias> s4br3: thanks for your help :)  I am new to the distro and you guys are a great bunch!
[05:13] <llama_> no feedback...
[05:13] <bob2> jbn-o: sure, any many beginners aren't going to co get beagle from cvs, either
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> llama_, ok ... just sec
[05:13] <llama_> k
[05:13] <bob2> jbn-o: it will hopefully be part of breezy if it's more stable
[05:13] <jbn-o> bob2: you don't need to do that, so I don't know what you're referring to there.
[05:13] <s4br3> kalias, You're welcome. Actually I don't use ubuntu, but most distros are very similiar. :-)
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> laama, try similar... dmesg | grep wlan
[05:14] <laama> k
[05:14] <laama> nothing
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> s4br3, isn't that such a cool thing about linux
[05:14] <kalias> s4br3: I have used Gentoo before but I like this one better. Not so much nitty gritty stuff to deal with.
[05:14] <laama> eth1 works
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> laama, didn't you say it's on eth0?
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> ah
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:14] <laama> heh
[05:15] <laama> no ipv6 routers present
[05:15] <nomasteryoda> did ifconfig -a show IP for that device?
[05:15] <laama> new link status: connected (0001)
[05:15] <laama> uhh
[05:15] <s4br3> kalias, Then you're well equiped to handle any distro.
[05:15] <maydayj> laama - if its minipci internal try lspci
[05:15] <s4br3> nomasteryoda, yea Linux Rules!
[05:15] <nomasteryoda> yea, it Rox!
[05:15] <laama> inet6 addr?
[05:16] <laama> hwaddr?
[05:16] <laama> which one?
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> laama, you don't need to be too concerned with inet6
[05:16] <laama> well then no ip
[05:16] <kalias> s4br3: Well...I only know enough to make me dangerous.  I am newbie sys admin at best.  However, I think I like linux more than windows now.
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> laama, you using the gnome net applet?
[05:16] <laama> y
[05:16] <laama> a
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[05:17] <maydayj> laama - hwaddr might be able to figure it out from the first few bytes of the MAC
[05:17] <laama> well my ip is 10.0.1.5
[05:17] <laama> i know that
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> and used the full WEP key... not the english key
[05:17] <laama> yes
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:17] <s4br3> kalias, You have obviously seen the light! Unfortunately, now you'll begin to really HATE windows. hehe
[05:17] <ubuntu_> i have a question about using ubuntu linux to make a partition on my HD
[05:17] <ubuntu_> im a linux n00b
[05:18] <laama> im connected to the network (supposedly) with good signal
[05:18] <maydayj> laama if you are using DHCP you should only be getting the address is the WEP is correct, so I think it isn't a WEP issue.
[05:18] <laama> again?!
[05:18] <laama> aww man
[05:18] <bob2> laama: does it work if you disable wep?
[05:18] <kalias> s4br3: yes, I have used it since the early 80's and lived through it's morphing.  Linux is much more stable and, although some would argue, it is more user friendly.
[05:18] <laama> bob2: no
[05:18] <maydayj> laama - can you ping anything else on your subnet by IP e.g ping 10.0.1.1?
[05:18] <nalioth> laama: stop what your doing, and find a coffeeshop or mcdonalds or somethin with an open access point
[05:19] <laama> well not now
[05:19] <nomasteryoda> nalioth, laama try turning off WEP on the router...
[05:19] <bob2> laama: on the AP, I mean
[05:19] <nomasteryoda> or AP
[05:19] <netsniper> Anyone know how to prevent my laptop screen and TV screen from blanking when I close the lid?
[05:19] <nomasteryoda> and on the eth1
[05:19] <laama> lemme see
[05:19] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:19] <laama> well 10.0.1.1 is my router
[05:19] <nalioth> laama doesnt have teh keys to the AP
[05:19] <jbn-o> kalias: some would argue that.  some would argue that if GNU/Linux systems are weighed on user-friendliness they don't stack up well.
[05:19] <sophie_msumu> go pistons go
[05:19] <laama> conect: network is unreachable
[05:20] <laama> :/
[05:20] <laama> grrrrrrr
[05:20] <s4br3> netsniper, Probably a cmos setting for screen closing signal.
[05:20] <djs> ubuntu_, Ask away.  Hopefully someone can help.
[05:20] <bob2> netsniper: edit /etc/acpi/event/lidbtn to do nothing
[05:20] <ubuntu_> ah ok thanks
[05:20] <vinux> I wonder when they are going to get mozilla working right. I do admit it crashes on some sites more then others but man it's crashed like 7 time so far in like 10min
[05:20] <Chadwill> how do i change write permission for a folder and anything that is within folder?
[05:20] <ubuntu_> well i had a pirated version of winXP, so i got a legit version and tried to 'upgrade' install it
[05:20] <maydayj> laama - DHCP wouldn't return an address if WEP isn't working.... I just tried... so we can probably rule that out.
[05:21] <bob2> vinux: if it's reproducable, please do file bugs
[05:21] <vinux> bob2, ok
[05:21] <bob2> Chadwill: "directory". chmod -R <permissions> /path/to/dir/
[05:21] <vinux> oh it is
[05:21] <nalioth> vinux: i wonder when you are gonna use another browser.. .. ..
[05:21] <s4br3> Chadwill, "man chmod"
[05:21] <vinux> nalioth, which do you sugest?
[05:21] <Chadwill> k
[05:21] <kalias> jbn-o: yes, I can see your point.  I think the difference between the two is that linux is done because people want to.  I am a good example. The reason I built two linux machines was to learn about it.  It has proven to be a very enlightening journey.
[05:21] <sknroiws> :o
[05:21] <ubuntu_> but the install would finish more or less, then reboot, then fail and revert to the 'last known good configuration' screen....but i'd like to recover the date from my HD, so i can fresh install winXP
[05:21] <maydayj> laama - what kind of driver are you using?  NDISWRAPPER or native?
[05:21] <sknroiws> I asked that question many times
[05:21] <nalioth> vinux there over a dozen browsers available
[05:21] <sknroiws> And no one answered ><
[05:21] <ubuntu_> right now i boot linux off of a CD
[05:22] <vinux> nalioth, yes but which one do you like?
[05:22] <RedMenace> Anyone else havin' trouble with the nvidia-glx package?
[05:22] <nalioth> vinux: i personally use galeon
[05:22] <bob2> sknroiws: your questions were pretty vague
[05:22] <vinux> nalioth, ooo can I see streaming video on it?
[05:22] <nalioth> vinux: it uses all the mozilla plugins
[05:22] <sknroiws> My question was how do I set permissions on a mounted hard drive
[05:22] <ubuntu_> so i'd like to make a partition with ubuntu, and be able to back up data somehow
[05:22] <bob2> sknroiws: the answer to "Should I just reinstall the operating system" is no
[05:22] <vinux> nalioth, sweetness
[05:23] <bob2> sknroiws: depends on what sort of hard drive
[05:23] <RedMenace> I follow the instructions for installing the nvidia drivers from the Unofficial Ubuntu Starter guide at http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver but it doesn't work
[05:23] <bob2> sknroiws: ntfs?
[05:23] <sknroiws> Yes
[05:23] <vinux> nalioth, why did you tell me this before? You grounded! Go sit in the corner :)
[05:23] <sknroiws> But Im already reinstalling
[05:23] <bob2> RedMenace: I'd ignorethem and read wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHOwto
[05:23] <sknroiws> Im reinstalling because a theme I got messed up everything
[05:23] <sknroiws> And I wanted to install the AMD64 version any way
[05:24] <nalioth> vinux: open synaptic and search for 'browser' (or anything else you are interested in)
[05:24] <ubuntu_> since i'm booting ubuntu off of a CD, is it possible to browse my HD and send the data over a network to be backed up on another PC?
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> ubuntu_, yes
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> it should be
[05:25] <RedMenace> bob2:  Those are pretty much the same instructions, and they didn't work for me either.   Same error "Failed to load kernel module"
[05:26] <RedMenace> ls
[05:26] <bob2> RedMenace: what does "uname -r" print?
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> s4br3, the issue i have with debian unstable is all the updates... like 24 a day
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> =)
[05:26] <ubuntu_> nomasteryoda, how can i do that?
[05:26] <levander> maydayj: i see how to filter out packets by protocol in ethereal, is their a way to filter out packets by the application that sends them?
[05:27] <llama_> uhh
[05:27] <llama_> i was disconnected...
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[05:27] <llama_> lol
[05:27] <llama_> i thought you guys just died
[05:27] <caonex> libflash-mozplugin will allow firefox to play flash movies?
[05:27] <llama_> then saw ubuntu:diconnected
[05:27] <llama_> anyway
[05:27] <RedMenace> uname -r prints "2.6.10-5-amd64-generic"
[05:28] <s4br3> nomasteryoda, I get several updates for FC3 (and now FC4) a day. Not too bad though.
[05:28] <laama> the BSSID is the wep right?
[05:28] <rommer> is php5 available in ubuntu
[05:28] <bob2> no
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> ubuntu_, try running the command 'gftp'
[05:28] <laama> o
[05:28] <laama> bob2: it isnt?
[05:28] <bob2> php5? not in hoary.
[05:28] <rommer> bob2: why is thta
[05:28] <bob2> no one has packaged it properly yet
[05:29] <laama> woops
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> and there are lots of packages that are not compatible with php5
[05:29] <laama> is the BSSID the WEP?
[05:29] <levander> bob2: any word if it'll be in breezy?
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> laama, no
[05:29] <bob2> levander: I think it will be
[05:29] <rommer> laama: no
[05:29] <laama> so...
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> base station ID is bssid
[05:29] <laama> how did i connect to my network
[05:29] <laama> THATS THE PROBLEM!
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> if my wifi could reach that far, i'd know...
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> my bi-quad antenna only goes 60 miles
[05:30] <laama> so how am i supposed to find the WEP?
[05:30] <levander> well, am really almost glad php5 isn't in there, I have to use php sometimes, but makes no good sense that php became so popular when python already did everything php did and did it better.  Kind of glad to see php getting some lack of support somewhere (close rant)
[05:30] <laama> where does it say it
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> laama, it should be in the router configuration page
[05:30] <sknroiws> !
[05:30] <HrdwrBoB> levander: not really
[05:30] <sknroiws> My keyboard isnt working in the insall
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> does anyone get a feeling of the Three billy goats gruff?
[05:31] <vinux> nalioth_zZzZzZzZ, nooo
[05:32] <vinux> Hey everybody listen to nalioth!!! Nalitoth has helped me alot
[05:32] <laama> if my wep is just a pass i chose, im supposed to put s: before it right?
[05:32] <laama> he helped to too
[05:32] <bob2> haha
[05:32] <levander> HrdwrBoB: i'm interested in why you think not, but I'm not going to get in a dumb argument about it in this channel.  So, HrdwrBoB, why not?
[05:32] <laama> *me too
[05:32] <vinux> lol I mean nalioth_zZzZzZzZ
[05:32] <Flying-Penguin> what is the comand to install a .deb agen...???
[05:32] <ThE__OnE> how do i search for a file?
[05:32] <ubuntu_> i dont mean to be a huge n00b, but where would i type that command in?
[05:32] <sproingie> Flying-Penguin: dpkg -i
[05:32] <neza> anyone know were i can get skins for xine
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> ubuntu_, open a terminal window
[05:33] <ubuntu_> ok
[05:33] <laama> ubuntu_: Applications:System Tools:
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> Applications, System Tools, Terminal
[05:33] <ubuntu_> right
[05:33] <vinux> hey everybody if you have problems with mozilla use galeon it uses mplayer-plugin too!!!! works nice so far no crashes
[05:33] <HrdwrBoB> levander: having used both, I find that php is generally better for the web in my experience
[05:33] <HrdwrBoB> however, there's also nothing wrong with python
[05:34] <ThE__OnE> ?
[05:35] <levander> HrdwrBoB: why do you think php is better for the web?
[05:35] <sproingie> i'm not sure i'd want to embed python into web pages.  of course i'm not sure embedding code into pages is ever the best idea
[05:35] <sproingie> even ASP is largely abandoning that model
[05:35] <davidmccabe`> network printing to my imac in under ten minutes! yay! you guys deserve a million bucks!
[05:35] <ubuntu_> hmm...i tried it, and it said 'command not found'
[05:35] <laama> g2g bye yall, and thanks for all of your help :)
[05:35] <ThE__OnE> how do i search for a file?
[05:35] <neza> anyone have a HAL problem when botting up
[05:35] <Quantum_P> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu; the partitioner took a long time and eventually failed.
[05:35] <davidmccabe`> (although I did have to edit my /etc/hosts file :()
[05:35] <laama> ThE__OnE: places:search
[05:36] <Cybermagellan> Anyone here have the Ubuntu Logo in .svg?
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> ThE__OnE, ... in Terminal you can also do 'find /home/user -name searchword
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> Cybermagellan, it's on the site
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> somewhere
[05:36] <ThE__OnE> i want to search the whole computer
[05:36] <levander> ThE__OnE: "locate <regexp>" works
[05:36] <sproingie> but php5 is still too new for most installations
[05:36] <ThE__OnE> ok
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> ThE__OnE, then use / in place of /home
[05:37] <Cybermagellan> nomasteryoda, I looked and the page doesn't exist anymore since the wiki migration
[05:37] <levander> ThE__OnE: and if you didn't tell ubuntu system not to build the locate database, locate is lots faster than find
[05:37] <nomasteryoda> ThE__OnE, you might want to do 'sudo updatedb' for locate to be accurate
[05:37] <nomasteryoda> Cybermagellan, let me look
[05:37] <nomasteryoda> i had it
[05:37] <Cybermagellan> Unless they changed the title of it...
[05:37] <ubuntu_> nomasteryoda, i did gftp and it gave me a string of numbers followed by 'harddrive.gftp'
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> ubuntu_ it should be on the disk
[05:38] <levander> ThE__OnE: yeah, you'll only find files that were on the system since last time updatedb was run, so if you're looking for some file you just put on there, gotta run updatedb, or just use find command
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> if memory serves
[05:38] <Cybermagellan> nomasteryoda, if your talking about https://wiki.ubuntu.com//LogoSVG nothing...
[05:38] <levander> HrdwrBoB: why's php better for the web?
[05:38] <ThE__OnE> ok
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> Cybermagellan, no actually I have a copy i DL long time ago
[05:39] <Cybermagellan> Could you DCC me or email it to me?
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> i'll just drop it into my local site.. which is running apache
[05:39] <Cybermagellan> OK.
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> and drop you a link
[05:39] <Cybermagellan> sure.
[05:40] <netsniper> bob2, do i need to restart for the lidbtn changes to take effect?
[05:40] <nomasteryoda> will take about 5 min to find
[05:40] <netsniper> thanks for info on lid close
[05:40] <lee_> im hanging difficulties with my wireless card in my laptop, ndiswrapper is giving me hell
[05:40] <maydayj> lavender - I don't know how to do that, but let me play a bit and I'll see what I can figure out for you.
[05:40] <netsniper> not sure though, because the lid is still powering off the screen when i close the laptop lid
[05:41] <HrdwrBoB> levander: it provides lots of convenient functions etc
[05:41] <RedMenace> How do I shut down my xwindows?   I tried 'sudo init 3' but that didn't work
[05:41] <HrdwrBoB> it's widely used, which means there's a lot of doco
[05:41] <HrdwrBoB> and a lot of support
[05:41] <netsniper> it must be sending a signal to my video card too, because my TV screen goes off as well...
[05:41] <HrdwrBoB> the php documentation is excellent
[05:42] <Chadwill> chmod: invalid mode string: `rwx' ...sigh.. what should it say? i want full rwx on a dir
[05:42] <levander> okay, thanks HrdwrBoB
[05:42] <netsniper> Chadwill, chmod +rwx
[05:43] <ubuntu_> anyone know how to browse the HD...'gftp' isn't really doing anything
[05:43] <netsniper> ubuntu_, use nautilus
[05:43] <s4br3> Chadwill, Did you put a "+" in front of the "rwx" ? It means add.
[05:44] <s4br3> Chadwill, or On. A "-" in front means Off.
[05:44] <ubuntu_> is nautilus the search program
[05:44] <tehmasp> does realplayer 10 work in ubuntu?
[05:45] <netsniper> ubuntu_, no it is a file browser, like Windows Explorer
[05:45] <zyth> tehmasp, yes
[05:45] <sknroiws> Isnt nauilus a browser
[05:45] <turnpike420> I found mozilla sunbird for debian, but it failed, anyone have sunbird in an UBUNTU apt repo?  thanks  :)
[05:45] <netsniper> ubuntu_, if you want awesome search capabilities -- try beagle
[05:45] <tehmasp> zyth, i just downloaded and installed it via the .bin file and ran realplay and it just didn't do anything, no error messages either, and doing it from apt-get grabs version 8
[05:45] <cthulfuego> Yay
[05:46] <Chadwill> did -R
[05:46] <netsniper> that means recursive
[05:46] <ThE__OnE> find / -name "keyword" does'nt seem to be working because ii searched for a file what was in my desktop but it never found it
[05:46] <netsniper> tehmasp, did you follow http://www.ubuntuguide.org ?
[05:46] <llama_> update on my strange issue: i just figured out that I can type in whatever I want in as WEP and it will stay the same, so it is a WEP issue. I will ask the adminstrator to open an application that gives this information (he know practivcally nothing on computers and such)
[05:46] <zyth> tehmasp, you have to install it as root, so sudo sh realinstaller
[05:46] <zyth> or something
[05:47] <zyth> one sec
[05:47] <llama_> sorry for all the fuss guys :/
[05:47] <netsniper> ThE__OnE, what is the file name?
[05:47] <ThE__OnE> test.doc
[05:47] <netsniper> ThE__OnE, you can also try "updatedb && slocate myfile"
[05:47] <tehmasp> zyth, i followed ubuntuguide, it downloaded a .deb which was an installer for realplayer,
[05:48] <ThE__OnE> come again
[05:48] <ThE__OnE> ?
[05:48] <zyth> tehmasp, really?
[05:48] <zyth> tehmasp, yeah, I have RP 10 in my synaptic list
[05:48] <llama_> so what is beagle, a search tool?
[05:48] <tehmasp> zyth, let me look at synaptic
[05:48] <llama_> does it index like spotlight on tiger/
[05:49] <netsniper> llama_, yes
[05:49] <llama_> ahh
[05:49] <s4br3> Chadwill, for changing whole directories, yes. But be very careful, you could change a lot more than you intend. Should be something like: > chmod -R +r+w+x ./<dir>
[05:49] <netsniper> ThE__OnE, "updatedb && slocate test.doc"
[05:49] <turnpike420> sunbird - heh, same seg fault error:  http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=6018  edit->find->ubuntu will take you right to it on the page
[05:49] <llama_> that has been bugging me, im so used to spotlight here on tiger
[05:49] <llama_> g2g bye
[05:49] <buffbikedude> does anyone know about this google tool that lets you type a word, and it will show related words? I forgot the name of it...
[05:50] <Chadwill> thank you
[05:50] <zyth> Huh, I have a newer version of RP than Synaptic has
[05:50] <zyth> I must've manually installed it
[05:51] <netsniper> buffbikedude, google suggest
[05:51] <netsniper> buffbikedude, http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1&hl=en
[05:51] <turnpike420> buffbikedude: http://www.google.com/intl/en/help/features.html
[05:51] <tehmasp> zyth, ok, that worked, thanks
[05:52] <s4br3> Chadwill, your welcome. It would be a good idea to learn the octal based way of changing permissions. It's easier in the long run than the symbolic way. Example: chmod -R 755 ./<dir>
[05:52] <buffbikedude> no, that's not what I'm thinking of. this one shows synonyms of words.
[05:52] <buffbikedude> I was pretty unimpressed by google suggest
[05:52] <zyth> tehmasp, np
[05:52] <s4br3> Chadwill, That would make user "rwx", group "r_x" and other "r_x"
[05:53] <dabaR> no sh^^
[05:54] <turnpike420> buffbikedude: my link is to all their services... don't see thesaurus listed
[05:54] <netsniper> buffbikedude, if you want synonyms -- try http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/innosense/goosyn.php
[05:54] <turnpike420> buffbikedude: or www.m-w.com and use the thesaurus
[05:55] <turnpike420> so no sunbird for Ubuntu yet... :)  maybe one day soon... :)
[05:57] <Chadwill> ok now it is:
[05:57] <Chadwill> drwxr-xr-x  5 roger roger  4096 2005-06-21 13:25 c_drive
[05:57] <Chadwill> that right?
[05:57] <llama_> this is bugging me like crazy, the administrator is not very... well, nice, how can i crack the wep in osx?
[05:58] <turnpike420> woooo!  sunbird 0.2 in Ubuntu... :)  just gotta start it first time with: sudo sunbird -calendar
[05:58] <llama_> what is sunbird?
[05:58] <rommer> calendar
[05:58] <llama_> ahh
[05:58] <llama_> cool
[05:58] <cthulfuego> 'ere we go
[05:58] <llama_> but how can i crack a wep?
[05:58] <Cybermagellan> nomasteryoda, up yet?
[05:59] <sknroiws_> !faw
[05:59] <ubotu> sknroiws_: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[05:59] <sknroiws_> !faq
[05:59] <ubotu> I guess faq is Frequently Asked Questions you can check it out from here ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
[06:00] <nomasteryoda> Cybermagellan, can only find my small png copies i made
[06:00] <nomasteryoda> very small
[06:00] <nomasteryoda> but ... i know i have it somewhere
[06:00] <cthulfuego> !ubuntuforum 43254
[06:00] <ubotu> UbuntuForum: Thread 43254 is: Ubuntu Forums - [USN-141-1]  tcpdump vulnerability
[06:00] <s4br3> Chadwill, That would be read,write,execute for user roger, r and x for group roger, r and x for everybody else. If that's what you want.
[06:01] <ThE__OnE> netsniper, that worked but is there an easier way to search for a file on the Computer? Somehting that i can remember
[06:01] <laama> xit
[06:02] <netsniper> laama, to crack WEP, first get a wifi card that can sit in monitor mode and also allows promiscuous, then get wepcrack or som other cracker tools
[06:02] <netsniper> ThE__OnE, "find / -iname myfilehere"
[06:02] <netsniper> ThE__OnE, more generally -- "find <base path> <type of search> <your file>"
[06:03] <ThE__OnE> ok
[06:03] <robert__> i'm trying to setup a dri driver for my via/s3g video card, but when I do I get dependency errors.  can anyone help?
[06:03] <netsniper> ThE__OnE,  "man find"
[06:04] <ThE__OnE> ok
[06:05] <robert__> anyone?
[06:06] <robert__> i'm trying to setup a dri driver for my via/s3g video card, but when I do I get dependency errors.  can anyone help?
[06:07] <netsniper> robert__, what are the errors?
[06:07] <frank> does anyone know how to stop ubuntu from resetting resolv.conf every time i reboot?
[06:07] <robert__> xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk:
[06:07] <robert__>   Depends: libc6 (>=2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[06:07] <robert__>  Depends: xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk but it is not going to be installed
[06:07] <robert__>  Depends: drm-trunk-module-src but it is not going to be installed
[06:08] <wross> Hey, Just got done loading ubuntu hoary hedgehog on my dell c600 laptop. It runs great. Thanks alot to all of the developers that may be in here and anyone else. Expect a donation of sorts soon. :)
[06:08] <netsniper> frank, can you set the file not to be writable?
[06:09] <netsniper> wross, kicks ass ddoesnt it?
[06:09] <wross> Yes, very well
[06:09] <Cybermagellan> Does anyone have the Ubuntu Logos in .svg format?
[06:09] <robert__> any help, netsniper?
[06:09] <netsniper> is this a savage card?
[06:10] <robert__> via/s3g, if that means anything to you
[06:10] <netsniper> is it onboard?
[06:10] <robert__> yep
[06:10] <robert__> crappy laptop video card
[06:10] <netsniper> what mobo?
[06:10] <robert__> i'm not sure...
[06:10] <vinux> wross, yea it rocks!
[06:10] <pete> could anyone recommend a good wired/wireless network switcher?
[06:11] <JasonF> Is Breezy still at the point of "use it and die"?
[06:11] <JasonF> or is it moderately testable now?
[06:11] <Juhaz> see topic.
[06:11] <JasonF> oh, I somehow overlooked it. I think it's been moved further down in the topic :)
[06:11] <sknroiws> How do I install java?
[06:11] <robert__> I found install information for a little bit older build of this laptop, and have been trying to fumble through it
[06:12] <netsniper> pete, System -> Administration -> Networking
[06:12] <robert__> video playback is horrid, so i'm trying to get better video drivers
[06:12] <netsniper> robert__, ahhh
[06:12] <wross> Hey, jsut a question while im here i guess, what kind of support for pcmcia and/or wireless cards does ubuntu have "out of hte box"?
[06:12] <netsniper> robert__, what laptop?
[06:12] <maydayj> sknroiws - install backports - apt-get install j2sdk1.5-sun
[06:12] <robert__> averatec, 3280
[06:12] <pete> thanks netsniper but I was hoping for something a bit more polished
[06:12] <netsniper> wross, Ubuntu will detect some wireless card during install and use them to download updates!!!
[06:12] <bob2> wross: if there are linux drivers, you can usually finish the install using it
[06:12] <netsniper> not even windows does that...
[06:13] <bob2> wross: if it reuiqres ndiswrapper, I'd first check if it's too lat to return it
[06:13] <sknroiws> How do I install backports?
[06:13] <bob2> sknroiws: don't
[06:13] <wross> oh i didnt have the card during install
[06:13] <pete> i've got bash scripts that I use at the moment that are better (faster) than using the built in networking
[06:13] <robert__> any idea on how i can get this stupid dri driver installed?
[06:13] <sknroiws> ??
[06:13] <pete> I was hoping for something a bit more sophisticated
[06:13] <maydayj> sknroiws - check www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:13] <sknroiws> Im there
[06:13] <netsniper> pete, "sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup wlan0" ???
[06:13] <netsniper> hehehe
[06:13] <sknroiws> I did wha it said
[06:13] <bob2> pete: "faster"?
[06:13] <wross> i think my card's manufacturer even has linux drivers (its a hawking card) just wondering if it has anything pre-loaded
[06:14] <sknroiws> I said its not found
[06:14] <bob2> wross: depends on the card
[06:14] <maydayj> sknroiws - you need to update /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:14] <sknroiws> I did
[06:14] <bob2> usually, they come with ubuntu
[06:14] <netsniper> robert__, you're probably not going to have muc hluck wihtout an nvidia
[06:14] <wross> well the laptop is running right now, is it alright if i just pop it in or should i reboot with it in?
[06:14] <bob2> netsniper: please don't spread fud like that
[06:14] <maydayj> sknroiws - did you apt-get update after updating?
[06:14] <sknroiws> Yes
[06:14] <sknroiws> I did it once
[06:14] <robert__> i'm just trying to get the best i can out of it
[06:14] <sknroiws> Then it told me to do it again
[06:14] <sknroiws> So I did
[06:14] <bob2> ltos of non-nvidia cards work fine
[06:15] <bob2> nvidia doesn't DRI at all, too
[06:15] <Juhaz> speaking of that, has anyone noticed oddities with ipw2200 during install? seems it can't use WEP key even if it prompts for it, and if you try to use iwconfig in other virtual console to set it by hand, it claims that it's unsupported operation, even though exactly same command works perfectly after installation
[06:15] <robert__> netsniper, what should I do to try to fix the dependancy errors?
[06:15] <bob2> Juhaz: hm, wireless tools on the cd might be out of date
[06:15] <dsmith-texas> Why can't linux drivers work like WDM does for windows?
[06:15] <netsniper> bob2, nvidia actually releases drivers for linux
[06:15] <bob2> dsmith-texas: what's "WDM"?
[06:15] <netsniper> bob2, i dont think we can say the same for savage
[06:15] <sknroiws> Could he problem be that I have AMD64?
[06:16] <dsmith-texas> windows driver model
[06:16] <bob2> netsniper: so do ati, and intel and ...
[06:16] <dsmith-texas> its easy for hardware vendors to write drivers
[06:16] <bob2> dsmith-texas: because there's no point on linux
[06:16] <dsmith-texas> why not
[06:16] <bob2> dsmith-texas: it's easy for hardware vendors to write linux drivers, too
[06:16] <maydayj> sorry apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.5
[06:16] <netsniper> bob2, where are the Savage linux drivers?? ;-P
[06:16] <bob2> netsniper: I have no idea
[06:16] <dsmith-texas> if its so easy
[06:16] <netsniper> bob2, exactly...
[06:16] <maydayj> or apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 if you just want runtime...
[06:16] <dsmith-texas> how come noone does it?
[06:16] <bob2> I'm surprised Savage even exists anymore
[06:16] <bob2> dsmith-texas: who doesn't?
[06:16] <dsmith-texas> noone
[06:17] <dsmith-texas> writes linux drivers
[06:17] <bob2> wtf
[06:17] <dsmith-texas> that i can think of
[06:17] <netsniper> robert__, how old is this laptop?
[06:17] <bob2> that's patently false
[06:17] <dsmith-texas> creative doesnt
[06:17] <dsmith-texas> ati doesnt, does it?
[06:17] <bob2> dsmith-texas: creative paid someone to write sblive linux drivers
[06:17] <dsmith-texas> sblive is old tech
[06:17] <bob2> dsmith-texas: ati does, nvidia does, broadcom doas, linksys does ..
[06:17] <sknroiws> It says it cant find the packages
[06:17] <Juhaz> bob2, thought about that, just wondering why they would be that much older
[06:17] <dsmith-texas> my audigy2 doies not work with ubuntu
[06:17] <bob2> Juhaz: it's worth filing a bug if no one else has
[06:18] <robert__> brand new
[06:18] <bob2> dsmith-texas: can you please file a bug then, if no one else has?>
[06:18] <dsmith-texas> where?
[06:18] <dsmith-texas> bugzilla?
[06:18] <netsniper> robert__, do an lspci and tell me the string for your video card
[06:18] <sknroiws_> sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 Thats the command right?
[06:18] <bob2> dsmith-texas: yes
[06:18] <verden01> does anyone know how i canmount my mp3/usb flash drive?
[06:18] <robert__> newest model in the 3200 series, I believe
[06:18] <robert__> good laptop apart from the video card, especially for $800
[06:18] <robert__> i'm sorry, lspci?
[06:19] <sknroiws> mayday can you send it to sknroiws_
[06:19] <maydayj> yep...
[06:19] <sknroiws_> Thanks
[06:19] <sknroiws_> Let me try this
[06:20] <maydayj> sknroiws - if that doesn't work - search for j2 in synaptic to see if it is there..
[06:20] <wross> where is my "linux source directory" on ubuntu? My wlan card drivers are looking for it.
[06:20] <robert__> netsniper, I got lots of unknown device messages
[06:20] <netsniper> robert__, it is a command tool
[06:20] <crimsun> wross: you want linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:20] <netsniper> robert__, look for your video card info
[06:21] <crimsun> wross: after you install that package, they're located in /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:21] <kzm> Is there a DVD-image containing the universe available?
[06:21] <Juhaz> bob2, indeed. I'll check the tracker
[06:21] <dsmith-texas> Bob2, thanks
[06:21] <dsmith-texas> there are a couple of bugs related to audigy2 there...
[06:21] <netsniper> robert__, or do Sytem -> Administration -> Device Manager
[06:21] <robert__> netsniper, I got that part, but all I get for video is stuff like 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0204
[06:22] <wross> ony thing in /usr/source is a dir names "rpm"
[06:22] <sknroiws_> Hmm
[06:22] <sknroiws_> It still cant find it
[06:22] <netsniper> robert__, check under your AGP bridge in device manager
[06:22] <sknroiws_> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[06:22] <crimsun> that's because you haven't followed my instructions...
[06:22] <siorfin> can anyone explain to me how to install ndis wrapper and drivers for centrino?
[06:22] <crimsun> wross: that's because you haven't followed my instructions...
[06:23] <bob2> siorfin: er, no, you don't use ndiswrapper for centrino
[06:23] <maydayj> I just installed 15 mins ago ... I installed the SDK because I needed it for some development.... and it install no probs...
[06:23] <siorfin> i have installed the ndiswrapper-source and ndiswrapper-utils but i have no clue where togo from there
[06:23] <sknroiws_> Do you have AMD64?
[06:23] <siorfin> and i have to use ndis, the stupid ipw2100 won't connect to my wireless router
[06:23] <siorfin> works fine at work but not at home
[06:24] <r0d> bob2, whats that tool that lets you write to ntfs w/out compiling your kernel?
[06:24] <siorfin> and i couldnt install the latest ipw2100 from source forge because i keep getting a make error
[06:24] <bob2> r0d: nothing
[06:24] <robert__> netsniper, i'm not even seeing an agp bridge...
[06:24] <siorfin> something about module folder
[06:24] <maydayj> sknroiws - no .... that may be why .... is AMD64 backwards compatible?
[06:24] <sknroiws_> Im not sure
[06:24] <siorfin> so can anyone help me, this is driving me nuts and i dont want to move to yet another distro trying to get all my crap working, all i need is the wireless
[06:25] <dsmith-texas> is ubuntu the #1 linux desktop distro going right now?
[06:25] <netsniper> robert__, sorry dude, i havent the slightest idea then!
[06:25] <netsniper> siorfin, if it worked somewhere else -- then the driver is not the problem
[06:25] <netsniper> siorfin, check yer iwconfig settings
[06:26] <maydayj> sknroiws - try this link - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29263.html
[06:26] <bob2> dsmith-texas: I don't think anyone has useful figures on that front
[06:26] <bob2> it's impossible to mention
[06:26] <netsniper> siorfin, do you use WPA at home?  Maybe the driver does not support WPA
[06:26] <sknroiws_> Alright Ill try that.
[06:26] <netsniper> bob2, dont spread FUD -- Ubuntu is the #1 distron in thw world roight now
[06:27] <bob2> netsniper: wtf
[06:27] <netsniper> bob2, im being serious dude
[06:27] <bob2> netsniper: how on earth could anyone measure that?
[06:27] <Chadwill> can i run a prog in root mode if i start it in shell with sudo?
[06:27] <netsniper> bob2, ever hear of a place called distro watch?
[06:27] <r0d> lol!
[06:27] <bob2> netsniper: distrowatch is utterly useless
[06:27] <r0d> thats funny
[06:27] <netsniper> bob2, i think you are utterly useless dude...
[06:28] <bob2> netsniper: that's lovely, but please stop being silly
[06:28] <siorfin> ok how do i use pms? someone is chatting with me, assume so since it is in red, but i cant reply
[06:28] <siorfin> been a long time since i used irc and never x-chat
[06:28] <wross> crimsun, it says "/usr/src/2.6.10-5-386 is incomplete or missing!"
[06:28] <netsniper> bob2, well dont think you know everything mr smarty pants!
[06:28] <netsniper> lol
[06:28] <netsniper> yer not 1337, or owever those silly h4ch3rs say it
[06:28] <bob2> netsniper: I know I don't know everything, but I do know that there's no useful way to measure how many people are using ubuntu
[06:29] <netsniper> of course there is dude
[06:29] <bob2> netsniper: I also know distrowatch's measure is craqp
[06:29] <r0d> netsniper, i think it would be best if you stop typing
[06:29] <netsniper> bob2, look at how many people download the ISOs
[06:29] <bob2> netsniper: really? how?
[06:29] <crimsun> wross: that's because your path is incorrect
[06:29] <bob2> netsniper: lots of people got the cds from shipit
[06:29] <dsmith-texas> I have tried others in the past
[06:29] <bob2> netsniper: or copied it off friends
[06:29] <bob2> netsniper: or got it off bittorrent
[06:29] <dsmith-texas> and ubuntu is getting close to windows
[06:29] <crimsun> wross: note precisely my syntax
[06:29] <jENNA> http://blog.myspace.com/perniciousrapture add me bitches
[06:29] <netsniper> bob2, you must not have taken statistics class ;-P
[06:30] <crimsun> wross: /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r), not /usr/src/$(uname -r)
[06:30] <dsmith-texas> if linux had the driver support for EVERYTHING windows had...
[06:30] <netsniper> bob2, there are trivial algorithms to compute this derivations
[06:30] <bob2> netsniper: er, no, you don't have nearly enough information to do that
[06:30] <crimsun> let's just settle with "A lot of people are using Ubuntu" :)
[06:30] <dsmith-texas> does anyone know if there is a way to get an HP K60 (multi-function) Printer to workwith ubuntu?
[06:31] <ChinaCatJones> i can't seem to get a xircom card, RBEM56G-100, going under a clean install of hoary
[06:31] <Jimbob> dsmith-texas: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-OfficeJet_K60
[06:31] <sasquatc4> anyone know the package name for the libGL drivers? i need to reinstall them or update them or something to get my direct rendering working, and they arent listed with a search in synaptic
[06:31] <dsmith-texas> WOW
[06:32] <dsmith-texas> this forum rocks!
[06:32] <dsmith-texas> TY
[06:32] <bob2> sasquatc4: xlibmesa-gl
[06:32] <Jimbob> google, due :-)
[06:32] <Jimbob> erm, "dude"
[06:32] <James_Ward> If I install from sarge diskettes due to low memory constraints and then copy sources.list from an ubuntu machine, am I then ubuntu for all intents and purposes?
[06:32] <lifeless> netsniper: distrowatch is not a normal sample, its biased for starters, we don't know the distribution, we have no control. its useless, as 1st year stats will tell you.
[06:32] <nomasteryoda> sasquatc4, there you go
[06:32] <bob2> James_Ward: no
[06:32] <James_Ward> bob2, Is it possible to install ubuntu from sarge diskettes?
[06:33] <dsmith-texas> if i key in linux printers, would i find the link you sent me?
[06:34] <James_Ward> Is it possible to install ubuntu from sarge diskettes?
[06:34] <bob2> not simply
[06:34] <James_Ward> Nothing is simple on an HP Omnibook 800CT, ;-)
[06:34] <maydayj> James_Ward - You could did a base install and then update your apt sources - but still trivial unless you know what you are doing.
[06:35] <James_Ward> maydayj, That's about what I did.
[06:35] <maydayj> did - do
[06:35] <netsniper> lifeless, couldn't you tell from browser strings then if you say dw is useless?
[06:35] <James_Ward> Will it bite me in the future?
[06:35] <bob2> netsniper: not unless you have access to the web logs from every site on earth
[06:36] <netsniper> lifeless, i would think that you can come up with a degeree fo certainty that user's are not changing their browser strings
[06:36] <bob2> or some random sample
[06:36] <wross> crimsun, still failed
[06:36] <netsniper> w3cschool.com
[06:36] <bob2> James_Ward: you're not using ubuntu, some packages in sarge are newer than those in hoary
[06:36] <bob2> e.g. libc6
[06:36] <lifeless> netsniper: one could estiamte the proportion of visitors using ubuntu at a given site, so in a restricted population (potential visitors to that site) you can tell
[06:36] <Juhaz> hmm. any way to have different chat scripts for ppp connections using network profiles?
[06:36] <r0d> bob2,  my gdm screen resolution is different then my desktop. know how to change gdm res?
[06:36] <bob2> r0d: yes, but I wouldn't bother
[06:36] <Jimbob> dsmith-texas: I searched for "hp k60 cups"
[06:36] <bob2> r0d: it involves "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:36] <crimsun> wross: paste the error on the pastebin in the topic
[06:36] <lifeless> netsniper: you could generalise from that to a somewhat larger population, but I'm completely positive you cannot generalise from there to 'all computer users'
[06:36] <James_Ward> bob2, If I have both sarge and ubuntu hoary in sources.list, am I asking for trouble?
[06:37] <ubuntu_> does anyone know if there is a dialog when files are being transferred from directory to directory?
[06:37] <bob2> James_Ward: yes
[06:37] <James_Ward> bob2, Hmmmm.
[06:37] <maydayj> James_Ward - check http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/upgrade-sarge
[06:37] <Jimbob> dsmith-texas: CUPS is the printer system that Ubuntu uses (OS X does too)
[06:37] <thechitowncubs> Hey
[06:37] <wross> alright 1 sec crimsun
[06:38] <Amaranth> you could probably pull off sarge to breezy
[06:38] <maydayj> Breezy probably not the best option right yet....
[06:38] <thechitowncubs> Can someone help me out, I tried to upgrade my ipw2200 driver following the ipw2200+wpa guide and when I try to modprobe I get this error: FATAL: Error inserting ipw2200 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[06:38] <ajmitch> Amaranth: only with apt-pinning, and it still could cause some fun
[06:39] <Amaranth> ajmitch: You've tried?
[06:39] <robert__> Hwo do I get my screen to show on on two different displays? I just want the same picture on both displays, but they have different resoulution.
[06:39] <thechitowncubs> What should I check for
[06:39] <ajmitch> Amaranth: sid->breezy
[06:39] <Amaranth> oh, sid->breezy would be a PITA
[06:39] <Amaranth> but all of sarge should be older than breezy
[06:39] <ajmitch> pinning breezy at > 1000 so that it will force downgrades
[06:40] <thechitowncubs> should i try rebooting to get it to enable?
[06:40] <likkashot> any good site for costumizing ubuntu besides gnome-look
[06:40] <lifeless> thechitowncubs: what does dmesg show ?
[06:40] <likkashot> I want like a docking menu bar or something
[06:41] <thechitowncubs> a bunch of errors, one reads like this: ipw2200: disagrees about version of symbol ieee80211_wx_set_encode
[06:41] <James_Ward> Thanks!
[06:41] <lifeless> so, there was a recent fuckup and the API used by ipw2200 and ipw2100 was broken
[06:42] <lifeless> there is now a mismatch between one of them and wpa_supplicant
[06:42] <wross> crimsun, that pastebin wont work, but i pasted it here instead http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/?5900
[06:42] <thechitowncubs> lifeless: What can I do about it
[06:42] <Amaranth> likkashot: Pretty sure that would require patching gtk.
[06:42] <lifeless> the mailling list archives have more details than that, thats all that I recall. I think you are hitting that.
[06:42] <lifeless> thechitowncubs: downgrad14:02 < jnc> cartel_: ...  O_O
[06:42] <thechitowncubs> I don't even need the wpa
[06:42] <likkashot> lets do it
[06:42] <lifeless> thechitowncubs: downgrade.
[06:42] <likkashot> :)
[06:42] <thechitowncubs> really?
[06:42] <Amaranth> likkashot: Have fun.
[06:43] <lifeless> thechitowncubs: the ipw2200 driver, yes, I think so.
[06:43] <netsniper> thechitowncubs, WPA is not much protection -- MAC filtering will do you better
[06:43] <crimsun> wross: hmm, why are you trying to compile those?
[06:43] <thechitowncubs> I don't need wpa
[06:43] <Amaranth> likkashot: It'll never be accepted in main GTK so you'll be managing a patch forever.
[06:43] <thechitowncubs> i just need my network connection to stop browsing
[06:43] <likkashot> I saw a little prog to do it but forgot the name or where
[06:43] <thechitowncubs> i mean dropping
[06:43] <wross> so that i can use my wlan card (hawking WE110+)
[06:43] <sasquatc4> anyone know if there are any issues with ubuntu's LibGL and DRI drivers not matching up, because the dri guys are telling me thats most likely what my issues are
[06:44] <bob2> wross: those drivers are included with ubuntu already
[06:44] <likkashot> menu bar is ugly at least change the font of (aplications,places,system)
[06:44] <netsniper> Anyone notice the dreaded Mouse Over button event in GTK that won't refrseh the button?
[06:44] <wross> are they really? what do I need to do to use them,?
[06:44] <netsniper> ie -- leave your mouse over a button. the button refreshes, you cannot click it!
[06:45] <netsniper> this is just dumb...
[06:45] <bob2> wross: modprobe the correct one
[06:45] <wross> where can i lookup the correct one?/
[06:46] <bob2> wross: presumably the instructions that told you to compile linux-wlan-ng tell you which driver it uses?
[06:47] <wross> there is no instructions :(
[06:47] <likkashot> so Amaranth the only way I can costumize is with themes and desklets
[06:48] <Amaranth> likkashot: pretty much
[06:48] <likkashot> ok
[06:48] <bob2> wross: so, tell us about the card then
[06:49] <sknroiws_> How do I install Azureus?
[06:49] <netsniper> sknroiws, http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:49] <sknroiws_> Im there
[06:49] <netsniper> search for azureus
[06:49] <netsniper> there is a nice howto
[06:49] <sknroiws_> sudo apt-get install azureus
[06:49] <sknroiws_> It says that
[06:49] <sknroiws_> But I try that
[06:49] <sknroiws_> And it doesnt work.
[06:50] <bob2> it won't work until you do everything else it says
[06:50] <bob2> you can't just skim it
[06:50] <sknroiws_> I did do everything else it says.
[06:50] <ubuntu_> does anyone know if a file transfer dialog box comes up when moving files around
[06:50] <bob2> ubuntu_: why don't you just try it?
[06:50] <ubuntu_> i have, but no box comes up...i'm wondering if theres a way to turn it on or off
[06:50] <wross> well, its a Hawking Technology WE110P pcmcia adaptop, wireless b, i believe it uses either the prisim 1 2 or 2.5 chipset.
[06:51] <thechitowncubs> Downgrading worked :_
[06:51] <bob2> wross: plugging it in should be enough
[06:51] <netsniper> sknroiws, did you add the extra repos?
[06:51] <wross> while its running?
[06:51] <bob2> yes
[06:51] <wross> ok ill go for it ;)
[06:51] <netsniper> sknroiws, you need to follow the prerequisites
[06:51] <wross> if it explodes or combusts its your fault :-X
[06:52] <wross> ok its in how do i tell if its doing anything or if it will do anything
[06:52] <sknroiws_> Extra repos?
[06:53] <netsniper> sknroiws, look what it sasy right before you got to typing the commands
[06:53] <sasquatc4> for my previous question, i reinstalled all the xlib mesa drivers, but im still having issues, would installing libglu1-mesa possibly fix this? or would this break my whole system since to install those i have to remove xlibmesa
[06:53] <netsniper> sknroiws, there should be something listed that says DO THIS BEFORE GOING FURTHER lol
[06:53] <netsniper> you went right to typing the apt-get install comands...
[06:53] <wross> i still only have eth0 in ifconfig, which is the indegrated intel lan card
[06:53] <netsniper> do the pre-reqs...
[06:53] <sknroiws_> I had to edit the source.list file
[06:53] <sknroiws_> And I did that.
[06:53] <thechitowncubs> :_
[06:53] <thechitowncubs> :)
[06:53] <thechitowncubs> lool
[06:53] <netsniper> and you did apt-get update after?
[06:54] <sknroiws_> Yes
[06:54] <sknroiws_> I did it twice
[06:54] <holycow> bonjour
[06:54] <netsniper> ok, so now you have the extra repos
[06:54] <sknroiws_> I did that awhile ago
[06:54] <sknroiws_> And it doesnt work
[06:54] <sknroiws_> I have the AMD64 version does that make a difference?
[06:54] <netsniper> sknroiws, and you nstall java?
[06:55] <sknroiws_> Yes
[06:55] <sknroiws_> I had to follow instructions on forums
[06:55] <sknroiws_> the apt get way wasnt working
[06:55] <netsniper> sknroiws, you are telling me that azureus is not showing in the package list correct?
[06:55] <sknroiws_> Yes
[06:55] <netsniper> and you are running amd64 native?
[06:56] <sknroiws_> Im pretty sure
[06:56] <netsniper> then, i am not sure -- i have an amd64 laptop myself -- but i run it in 386 mode now until breezy comes out
[06:56] <netsniper> did you use the i386 install disc or amd64 install disc?
[06:56] <sknroiws_> :/
[06:56] <sknroiws_> amd64
[06:56] <ninwa> Anyone know if there are any applications that can make "smart folders" for gnome?
[06:56] <holycow> amd64 laptop?
[06:56] <holycow> heh
[06:56] <holycow> l33t
[06:56] <netsniper> then maybe it has not been ocmpiled on amd64 for you
[06:56] <holycow> all my systems are still around 1ghz
[06:56] <sknroiws_> Alright
[06:56] <netsniper> hehe
[06:56] <netsniper> mine 3400+
[06:57] <sknroiws_> MInes over a year old :/
[06:57] <sknroiws_> 3200+
[06:57] <holycow> biatch
[06:59] <s4br3> nomasteryoda, Goodnight! Talk to you tommorrow. (maybe) ;-)
[07:04] <stuNNed> hi BROKEN_LADDER
[07:04] <sknroiws_> I have java installed but its not working in firefox
[07:04] <likkashot> hey people wheres the page with the extra repositories
[07:06] <wross> ok, so i rebooted with my wlan pcmcia card in, and it still doesnt show up. is here any kind of auto configuration thing i can run so that i can figure out what modules to load?
[07:06] <maydayj> sknroiws - cd /home/username/.mozilla/plugins
[07:06] <maydayj> sknroiws - ln -s /usr/local/j2re1.4.2/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so libjavaplugin_oji.so
[07:07] <likkashot> hey people wheres the page with the extra repositories
[07:07] <cthulfuego> Whinger, mine's only a 2800+
[07:08] <thoreauputic> !repositories
[07:08] <ubotu> it has been said that repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:08] <likkashot> thanks
[07:08] <simon__> Hi.... I just installed Ubuntu about 2 hours ago.. complete Linux noob with a coupla questions
[07:08] <cthulfuego> BUG on thw wiki!
[07:08] <netsniper> simon__, you rule!
[07:09] <jsgotangco> simon__, ask away :)
[07:09] <simon__> lol - OK... I see the icon that says 25 new updates to install... click it and enter my password but get an error message???
[07:09] <jsgotangco> simon__, you're not a noob anymore since you got to install Ubuntu, you're already soaked :)
[07:09] <TTT_Travis|G3> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25722&page=1&pp=10
[07:10] <simon__> lol - I got it to dual boot too
[07:10] <jsgotangco> simon__, enter the password of your username
[07:10] <cthulfuego> !ubuntuforum 25722
[07:10] <simon__> yeah I'm trying that... not working
[07:10] <ubotu> UbuntuForum: Thread 25722 is: Ubuntu Forums - HOWTO: install VHCS on ubuntu (SERVER)
[07:10] <simon__> I was searching the forums
[07:10] <simon__> :(
[07:11] <cycom> anyone ever heard of a R4000 series compaq laptop?
[07:11] <abbot45> im having trouble with my mp3 player.  its not letting me put anything on it or delete anything from it.  says its a read only disc, even though im the owner and under properties it has "write" checked.
[07:12] <zyth> abbot45, what kind of mp3 player?
[07:13] <abbot45> Archos Gmini 400.  Ive used it with ubuntu before though with no problems.  Ive re-installed though and its doing this.
[07:14] <abbot45> I just dont know why its telling me that its Read Only.
[07:14] <sknroiws_> :)
[07:15] <sknroiws_> Finally
[07:15] <zyth> odd
[07:15] <sknroiws_> I got it working
[07:15] <sknroiws_> Thanks maydayj
[07:15] <maydayj> sknroiws - Did that work?
[07:15] <zyth> abbot45, and you've tried disconnecting it and rebooting...?
[07:16] <abbot45> no.  is rebooting necessary?  i mean i can try.
[07:16] <Flying-Penguin> could anyone direct me to the webpage that tell you how to install flash-xmms mp3-java???
[07:16] <maydayj> sknroiws - I was thinking of getting an AMD64 system...is there a lot of extra effort to get things running like that?
[07:17] <netsniper> sknroiws, how did you get it working?
[07:17] <needforbsd> hi
[07:18] <needforbsd> has anyone had any luck with wireless in linux?
[07:18] <stuNNed> Flying-Penguin: hi, have a look at restricted formats on the wiki mate
[07:18] <netsniper> needforbsd, im using it now!
[07:18] <zyth> abbot45, can't hurt to have the OS re-aquire the device
[07:18] <sknroiws_> Well
[07:18] <netsniper> needforbsd, it works for anything that even has a windows driver
[07:18] <sknroiws_> I guess there is
[07:18] <sknroiws_> lol
[07:18] <needforbsd> really? on ubuntu?/
[07:18] <netsniper> needforbsd, yes
[07:18] <Flying-Penguin> stuNNed: wiki mate???
[07:18] <sknroiws_> Now Im having problems with sound
[07:18] <sknroiws_> Im trying to play something in VLC
[07:18] <sknroiws_> But I get this
[07:18] <sknroiws_> [00000309]  oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)
[07:18] <sknroiws_> [mpeg4 @ 0x8446c0] header damaged
[07:18] <netsniper> sknroiws, how did you get azureues in amd64?
[07:19] <sknroiws_> I didnt
[07:19] <netsniper> oh, what did you get ot work?
[07:19] <abbot45> needforbsd, if you are having problems you can try ndiswrapper, but that can be a bit tricky if you have problems with it.  i havent got it to work.
[07:19] <sknroiws_> I got java to work with firefox
[07:19] <zyth> um
[07:19] <netsniper> abbas, whats yer problem?
[07:19] <zyth> java works with firefox normally
[07:19] <netsniper> sknroiws, ahh yea
[07:19] <zyth> or is this on amd64?
[07:19] <needforbsd> of course, you would have to like write and compile your own drivers to get the wireless to work though right?
[07:19] <sknroiws_> amd64
[07:19] <sknroiws_> How do I get this to play
[07:19] <zyth> sknroiws, go make an faq on it for ubuntuforums to help others then :)
[07:19] <sknroiws_> I cans ee the video
[07:20] <sknroiws_> Cant hear it
[07:20] <sknroiws_> lol
[07:20] <Flying-Penguin> zyth: my firefox doesn't work with java out of the box...
[07:20] <zyth> sknroiws, what program?
[07:20] <sknroiws_> vlc
[07:20] <abbot45> zyth, i just re-mounted it and its workin.  thanks for the help.
[07:20] <zyth> sknroiws_, change audio out to ALSA or ESD?
[07:20] <Jesse1> does any1 know how i can get firefox to play streaming media?
[07:20] <zyth> abbot45, :)
[07:20] <needforbsd> netsniper, how did you get wireless to work/ what are you using?
[07:20] <kmike> jesse1, depends
[07:20] <kmike> which codec
[07:20] <Jesse1> windows media
[07:20] <kmike> o
[07:21] <zyth> Jesse1, mozilla-mplayer
[07:21] <zyth> and w32codecs
[07:21] <kmike> yeah
[07:21] <zyth> !restricted
[07:21] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:21] <zyth> the knowledge you seek is there
[07:21] <Jesse1> at artistdirect.com
[07:21] <netsniper> needforbsd, i am using ndiswrapper
[07:21] <sknroiws_> How would I change audio out
[07:21] <zyth> sknroiws_, for vlc I don't know, unfortunately
[07:21] <abbot45> Jesse1, what media player do you use?  there are also ways to get totem to play imbeded media that work well.
[07:21] <Jesse1> zyth, ive tryed that all i got was a grey sqaure
[07:22] <needforbsd> is it free?
[07:22] <netsniper> yes
[07:22] <Jesse1> abbot45, i use totem at the moment but will change to any that lets me play the streams
[07:23] <unome> what's the command to start control center (KDE)?
[07:23] <abbot45> Jesse1, i use totem as well.
[07:23] <sknroiws_> I got totem to play it
[07:23] <Jesse1> yea, how?
[07:24] <needforbsd> totem plays dvds, I don't believe you.
[07:24] <netsniper> needforbsd, "google ndiswrapper", download it, make, install, apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils, ndiswrapper -i driver.inf, modprobe ndiswrapper, dhclient wlan0
[07:25] <needforbsd> dude!
[07:25] <Jesse1> lol
[07:25] <needforbsd> you are the only person I have ever talked to online that makes sense!
[07:25] <sasquatc4> has anyone successfully compiled xorg cvs on ubuntu? i just tried it and got errors in devices.o
[07:25] <netsniper> totem plays dvds here to, even on auto-insert
[07:26] <xero> hey... does anybody know offhand how to get ssh setup so i can remotley acess my machine? for some reason i cannot ssh into it.
[07:26] <abbot45> Jesse1, look for a firefox extension called MediaPlayerConnectivity.  It will allow you to play web imbeded media in your media player outside of your browser.
[07:26] <wross> How do i get root on ubuntu? I need to edit my sources.list
[07:26] <Jesse1> abbot45, ok ill look for that
[07:26] <netsniper> wross, sudo su root
[07:26] <Jesse1> wross, use sudo
[07:27] <rbrenart> Is there a way to add locations to my "Places" menu?
[07:27] <abbot45> Jesse1, where you have a grey box will turn into a box that you click on which will play it in your media player.
[07:27] <maydayj> xero - sudo apt-get install ssh
[07:27] <netsniper> xero, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installssh
[07:27] <Jesse1> ok
[07:27] <wross> how do i use sudo? :)
[07:27] <frank> type "sudo command"
[07:28] <wross> password?
[07:28] <frank> it will prompt for your password and then you enter it and it runs that command as root
[07:28] <frank> enter your password
[07:28] <wross> oh alright i get it
[07:29] <abbot45> Jesse1, also, if you would rather keep the media embeded while using totem, this guide shows you how to set that up.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17727&highlight=totem+embeded
[07:29] <sknroiws_> Is cedega compatible with AMD64
[07:29] <frank> hey i was just playing freecraft and i set it to the wrong resolution and i tried using the terminal to set res but it keeps loading it from the config file. where are config files for packages usually located?
[07:30] <Jesse1> abbot45, ok ill read that aswell
[07:30] <rbrenart> ok question 2 then
[07:30] <dr_willis> sknroiws,  there are issues with wine and cedega and 64bit disrtos.
[07:30] <sknroiws_> :o
[07:30] <netsniper> sknroiws, yes, i have used it before
[07:30] <sknroiws_> So no games!?
[07:30] <rbrenart> How do I go about showing all open apps across desktops in the panel instead of just the current desktop?
[07:30] <dr_willis> sknroiws,  it willwork with a 32 bit disrto on a amd64 processor
[07:30] <netsniper> dr_willis, that is not true
[07:30] <netsniper> dr_willis, cedega will run fine on an amd64 kernel
[07:30] <dr_willis> netsniper,  it gave me all kinds of issues.. they are  work arounds.. but still issues
[07:31] <netsniper> dr_willis, i had no problems at all
[07:31] <netsniper> dr_willis, it is just compiled as an i386 exe
[07:31] <sknroiws_> I tried to install but I got  this package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[07:31] <netsniper> sknroiws, are you using the deb?
[07:31] <sknroiws_> That was when I was trying to install point2play
[07:31] <sknroiws_> Yes
[07:31] <maydayj> sknroiws - check this link - http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[07:31] <netsniper> sknroiws, use the tar
[07:32] <dr_willis> there are some howtos on making a 32 bit 'enviroment' for it.  iv seen.  - Of course  Grand Theft auto played at 2x normal speed for me :P
[07:32] <dr_willis> Useing a 32 bit disrto with cedega for the time being.
[07:33] <skel_> /etc/fstab  hwo would i eneter that into terminial so i would have root priviages
[07:33] <dr_willis> skel_,  Huh?
[07:33] <dr_willis> skel_,  you want to edit it as root?
[07:33] <stuNNed> dr_willis: every play any of the men of valor tracks in cedega by chance?
[07:33] <rbrenart> skel: sudo vi /etc/fstab (replace vi with your favorite editor)
[07:33] <dr_willis> stuNNed,  nope.
[07:34] <stuNNed> dr_willis: it's like november-ish title think cedega could handle it?
[07:34] <dr_willis> stuNNed,  Been playing RTCW:ET lately :P
[07:34] <skel_> that u very much
[07:34] <skel_> :)
[07:34] <stuNNed> dr_willis: ah, that's old hat :)
[07:34] <dr_willis> stuNNed,  ive had very bad luck with about any of the cedega  stuff.. even the 'officially' supported things.
[07:34] <netsniper> dr_willis, cedega will run fine on amd64 Ubuntu
[07:34] <rbrenart> ok, no hits one #1 or #2... let's see if questoin #3 is the charm
[07:34] <stuNNed> dr_willis: that was fun, played the heck outta mp_beach =)
[07:34] <dr_willis> stuNNed,  yep.
[07:34] <rbrenart> how do I change application associations, specifically I want xine to open everything totem is trying to open
[07:34] <stuNNed> dr_willis: ah, ok thanks for the info :)
[07:35] <dr_willis> netsniper,   well it dident last i used it last month.
[07:35] <netsniper> rbrenart, rightl click the file, and choose the properties ettting
[07:35] <siimo> my ubuntu cds just arrived :-D
[07:35] <netsniper> rbrenart, then set the default app
[07:35] <rbrenart> awfully simple, thanks
[07:35] <netsniper> :-)
[07:35] <netsniper> dr_willis, did you install the tar?
[07:35] <netsniper> dr_willis, the deb will fail
[07:35] <sknroiws_>  Fix cedega script to use 32bit libs.
[07:35] <sknroiws_> How do I do that?
[07:36] <dasameog408> hello
[07:36] <dasameog408> i just installed ubuntu
[07:36] <sknroiws_> Hi dasameog408
[07:36] <dasameog408> can someone help me install java
[07:36] <sknroiws_> :o
[07:36] <Jesse1> hey i cant get to the firefox addon page whats the work around to get passed that page?
[07:36] <stuNNed> dr_willis: ya only title i got it to play half decent was moh:aa and that was years after it's release, eghad :)
[07:37] <sknroiws_> http://ubuntuguide.org/index.html#jre
[07:37] <skel_> vi confusing
[07:37] <skel_> isnt there on liek josh or something
[07:37] <dasameog408> sknroiws, could you please help me install java
[07:37] <skel_> like a normal name i read on it
[07:37] <sknroiws_> Go to that link http://ubuntuguide.org/index.html#jre
[07:38] <sknroiws_> dasameog
[07:38] <rbrenart> if I visit a MLB site (say www.cubs.com) I have mplayer and the like setup so the video comes up, but it has no sound... sound seems fine everywhere else... but if I launch mplayer manually on files it totally locks up (I don't really care about that)... any idea how to get sound from those videos?
[07:38] <dasameog408> ok thank you
[07:38] <rbrenart> (actually I think these are flash videos)
[07:39] <maydayj> sknroiws - Step 10 looks like it'll build a 32-bit chroot -- for the cedega script, you probably have to change some lib path in the cedega script...I'll see what I can find.
[07:39] <netsniper> maydayj, i never needed to use a chroot...
[07:39] <rbrenart> for that matter does anyone know of a site with flash movies with sound that I could test at to see if it's just a MLB thing or not?
[07:40] <Flying-Penguin> how do I get my browser to have an adress bar?
[07:40] <netsniper> http://www.zerotoys.com
[07:40] <dasameog408> i wen to that site
[07:40] <dasameog408> could someone help me with it
[07:40] <maydayj> netsniper - I think that is just one way around it, to use without chroot, he'll need to modify his cedega script to reference different libs I think.
[07:40] <dasameog408> i dont understand it
[07:40] <netsniper> click enter hi res
[07:40] <dasameog408> where to i type that sudo thing
[07:40] <netsniper> dasameog408, you need to open a terminal
[07:41] <rbrenart> ok no sound there either... anyone know how to get sound out of flash in firefox?
[07:41] <netsniper> right-click your desktop and "Open Terminal" ois at the top
[07:41] <rbrenart> or for that matter, is anyone getting sound out of their flash player?
[07:41] <netsniper> rbrenart, mine works fine
[07:41] <maydayj> rbrenart - mine too...
[07:41] <netsniper> rbrenart, http://ubuntuguide.org/#flash-mozilla
[07:42] <Flying-Penguin> how do I make it so when I open home or desktop it opens in a browser that has an adress bar and such???
[07:42] <rbrenart> well that's not good, means it's just me!
[07:42] <netsniper> Flying-Penguin, gconf
[07:42] <dr_willis> Flying-Penguin,  thers 2 'modes' of the file manager.. right click on the folder and use the other 'mode'
[07:42] <rbrenart> netsniper,  yeah that's how I set it up
[07:42] <dr_willis> is one way
[07:42] <netsniper> Flying-Penguin, you can set the "always use browser" option in nautilus
[07:43] <dasameog408> i get this
[07:43] <dasameog408> Reading package lists... Done
[07:43] <dasameog408> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:43] <dasameog408> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[07:43] <sknroiws_> Did you do the thing before that?
[07:43] <dasameog408> what thing?
[07:43] <Jesse1> abbot45, hey it seems to work but i get this error No URI handler implemented for "mms://a1319.v03264.c326.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1319/326/42837b1d/bmgent.download.akamai.com/326/rcarecords.com/foo_fighters/audio/best_of_you_96.wma"
[07:43] <Flying-Penguin> netsniper: how do I get the the nautilus options?
[07:44] <sknroiws_> step 2
[07:44] <dasameog408> oh that looks hard lmao
[07:44] <dasameog408> let me try
[07:44] <sknroiws_> lol
[07:44] <sknroiws_> brb
[07:44] <Flying-Penguin> netsniper: how do I get the the options?
[07:45] <netsniper> Flying-Penguin, Applications -> System Tools -> COnfiguration Editor
[07:45] <rbrenart> well anyone have any idea how to troubleshoot that?
[07:45] <rbrenart> (*that = no sound from flashplayer in firefox)
[07:46] <sknroiws_> back
[07:46] <netsniper> Flying-Penguin, then apps -> nautilus -> preferences -> "Always use crowser" checked
[07:47] <abbot45> Jesse1, well, unfortunately linux doesnt handle windows media too well.  especially the newer stuff.  i dont know how to help you with that.
[07:48] <netsniper> abbot45, ive been able to play almost everything
[07:48] <netsniper> abbot45, install win32codecs
[07:48] <dasameog408> ok sorry i understand
[07:48] <Jesse1>   netsniper i have the win32codec's installed but cant play from artistdirect.com
[07:48] <ubuntu_newbie> How, oh great oracles, can I go about installing Ubuntu onto the hard drive from the live CD?
[07:48] <MrE> I've got an HP LaserJet 4000 and when printing a test page with the suggested postscript driver nothing comes out but goobldygook.  Any ideas?
[07:49] <stuNNed> ubuntu_newbie: that can't be done just yet
[07:49] <netsniper> Jesse1, send me link?
[07:49] <abbot45> netsniper, the ones in the repository?  i do have those installed.  im not having the problem.
[07:49] <maydayj> ubuntu-newbie - DL the non-live CD
[07:50] <Jimbob> MrE: What's the exact driver name you're using?
[07:50] <ubuntu_newbie> Thanks for the info.  My laptop is down, so I'll have to fix it before I can burn the non-live CD.  C'est la guierre.
[07:50] <Jesse1> netsniper, http://artistdirect.com/nad/window/media/player/listen/0,,3314560,00.html
[07:50] <Flying-Penguin> I use a usb headset... how would I set that to beeing my defalt sound devise?
[07:50] <MrE> Jimbob, the driver just says "Postscript (recommended) (Suggested)"
[07:51] <Jimbob> Ok
[07:51] <glyph> Flying-Penguin: basically you can't, gnome's sound support is fairly unsophisticated
[07:51] <MrE> Jimbob, The other choices are hpijs, lj5gray, and pxlmono.
[07:51] <Flying-Penguin> glyph: I did it on FC3...
[07:51] <glyph> Flying-Penguin: Oh?  Perhaps I am ignorant
[07:52] <netsniper> Jesse1, works fine for me
[07:52] <glyph> Flying-Penguin: How'd you do it there?  The procedure should be the same.
[07:52] <Jimbob> MrE: If you change to hpijs does it work?
[07:52] <Flying-Penguin> glyph: I went to soundcard setup...
[07:52] <Flying-Penguin> in sys tools
[07:52] <Jesse1> netsniper, DANG
[07:52] <MrE> Jimbob, Haven't tried yet as I would prefer Postscript and the odd name of the hpijs driver spooked me a bit.
[07:52] <Jesse1> netsniper, what are you using to get it to work?
[07:52] <glyph> Flying-Penguin: What's "sys tools"?  I haven't used FC3 much yet, I just got it installed in vmware last week
[07:53] <netsniper> Jesse1, it is using the mozplugger i think
[07:53] <Flying-Penguin> glyph: system tools under applications.
[07:53] <Flying-Penguin> glyph: its not in ubuntu
[07:53] <netsniper> Jesse1, follow the ubutuguide.org page for mozila plug-in mplayer
[07:53] <Jesse1> ive tryed that one
[07:54] <Jimbob> MrE: Well, it's dumping invalid postscript to the printer (hence the garbage)
[07:54] <abbot45> netsniper, totem uses the same codecs as mplayer.  why would it have any problems playing the same files?
[07:54] <MrE> Jimbob, That's what I figured as well.  I was hoping this was a known issue with a known workaround.
[07:54] <Jesse1> all i got was it that it was buffering then once its finsihed doing that it just goes grey
[07:55] <Jimbob> MrE: Is the printer locally connected (parallel or usb), or is it on a network
[07:55] <netsniper> abbot45, i have no idea dude -- i just know that the foo fighters thing is playing when i go to that website
[07:55] <MrE> Jimbob, Local via Parallel.
[07:55] <glyph> Flying-Penguin: Sounds like RedHat figured out the sound card mess and ubuntu didn't, then :-\.  I've looked all over for a way to toggle whether my headset or my speakers were default in all applications
[07:55] <Jesse1> netsniper, you sure the wmv codec is in the win32codec package?
[07:55] <MrE> Jimbob, The hpijs driver prints garbage as well.
[07:56] <Flying-Penguin> glyph: I don't realy need it to be all...
[07:56] <netsniper> Jesse1, yes it should be
[07:56] <fidget> ello govnas
[07:56] <netsniper> Jesse1, its an asx strem though
[07:56] <Jimbob> MrE: Mmmm
[07:56] <abbot45> netsniper, nevermind.  it works for me too, and im using totem with that firefox plug-in that loads it in my external player.
[07:57] <Jesse1> netsniper,  "mms://a1319.v03264.c326.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1319/326/42837b1d/bmgent.download.akamai.com/326/rcarecords.com/foo_fighters/audio/best_of_you_96.wma"
[07:57] <abbot45> Jesse1, you probably just need the codecs.
[07:57] <netsniper> Jesse1, i did "xine http://media.bmgonline.com/rcarecords.com/foo_fighters/audio/best_of_you_96.asx"
[07:57] <fidget> I'd like to install the files from a whoppix cd into my ubuntu dist .... would I just copy the pentest folder and everything would be peachy keen?
[07:57] <fidget> or is there more to it then that
[07:58] <bob2> that probably wouldn't work
[07:58] <bob2> I'd just compile "pentest"
[07:58] <fidget> compile pentest ....
[07:58] <Jimbob> MrE: What's the parallel port using?
[07:58] <glyph> Flying-Penguin: what application then?
[07:58] <Jimbob> (ECP, etc.)
[07:59] <MrE> Jimbob, Using?  Ah.
[07:59] <Jesse1> netsniper, asx is just a director to the real stream
[07:59] <abbot45> Jesse1, are you using the w32codecs from the repository?  if you are then you need to make sure you are using totem-xine rather than just regular totem.
[07:59] <netsniper> Jesse1, well it works over here :-)
[07:59] <netsniper> try xine dude
[07:59] <Jesse1> netsniper, yes abbot45, i think im using the regular totem
[08:00] <yahalom> anyone here us tsclient?
[08:00] <yahalom> us=use
[08:00] <MrE> Jimbob, How do I find out from within Ubuntu?  I don't see a parallel port in the device manager.
[08:00] <maydayj> yahalom - yes
[08:00] <amonkey> is there a way to re-assert you resolution? when games crash they leave me at the game's resolution.
[08:00] <abbot45> you need to go into synaptic and switch to totem-xine and also get the w32 codecs.  did you add your extra repositories?
[08:00] <abbot45> Jesse1, ^^^^
[08:01] <yahalom> maydayj, can u help me?
[08:01] <Jesse1> abbot45, yea ive got the win32 codec's
[08:01] <yahalom> maydayj, i need to give tech support to a windows users. how would i connect?
[08:01] <Flying-Penguin> glyph: uhh mplayer xmms cedega gnome...
[08:01] <abbot45> Jesse1, those will only work with totem-xine.
[08:01] <Jesse1> abbot45, i see
[08:02] <yahalom> maydayj,  i figure they need to go to myip.com so that i can know their ip
[08:02] <ThE__OnE> ok i downloaded firestarter, and 1.0.1 is the version i got with apt-get, but the latest version is 1.0.3, how can i upgrade this?
[08:02] <glyph> Flying-Penguin: gnome is hard
[08:02] <glyph> Flying-Penguin: but mplayer and xmms and cedega all have options to select an audio device
[08:02] <maydayj> yahalom - Goto Applications - Internet - Terminal Server Client and enter their hostname or ip and connect.
[08:02] <abbot45> just switch to that,  nothing will happen and it will automaticly get rid of regular totem.
[08:02] <Jimbob> MrE: Aside from the bios I'm not sure (the dev manager in breezy shows ECP on my box)
[08:02] <glyph> Flying-Penguin: assuming you have 2 audio devices, your sound card will be (in ALSA) hw:0 and your headset will be hw:1
[08:02] <yahalom> Mayday, thats all?
[08:02] <glyph> Flying-Penguin: in OSS, /dev/dsp0 and /dev/dsp1
[08:03] <yahalom> Mayday, just their ip? everything else blank? what if they have a firewall, ask them to turn it off?
[08:03] <maydayj> yahalom - Yes ... I use it all the time to connect to my client's servers to do remote support.
[08:03] <glyph> Flying-Penguin: depending on what sound system each of those applications is using, you have to choose something different
[08:03] <AMDXP> ok folks i am outta here
[08:03] <maydayj> Yahalom - they need to have port 3389 port-forwarded on their router to the local ip of the machine you want to connect to.
[08:04] <r0d> glyph, so some programs will randomly choose an audio device?
[08:04] <MrE> Jimbob, Hmm...
[08:04] <r0d> if you have two audio cards that is
[08:04] <Flying-Penguin> glyph: what abought this program ubuntu uses for multi sound devices... do I have to do anything with that?
[08:05] <yahalom> maydayj, how do i do that?
[08:05] <glyph> r0d: what I mean is, if you are using ALSA in mplayer but OSS in xmms you will have to choose hw:1 for mplayer but /dev/dsp1 for xmms
[08:05] <glyph> r0d: the applications will always choose the card whose driver loaded first by default
[08:05] <glyph> Flying-Penguin: what program?
[08:05] <Flying-Penguin> glyph: cedega xmms mplayer...
[08:05] <maydayj> Yahalom - depends on what type of router/firewall they have....do you know a model nnumber or anything?
[08:05] <r0d> i c
[08:05] <glyph> Flying-Penguin: each program has separate configuration
[08:06] <glyph> Flying-Penguin: this is not an ubuntu thing
[08:06] <glyph> Flying-Penguin: this is just an application-configuration thing
[08:06] <yahalom> maydayj, adsl. i assume alcatel or eci
[08:06] <jeavis> hi
[08:06] <ThE__OnE> ok i downloaded firestarter, and 1.0.1 is the version i got with apt-get, but the latest version is 1.0.3, how can i upgrade this?
[08:07] <maydayj> Yahalom - ADSL Alcatel or ECI - Do you know if they setup their connection in Windows and use Windows to do PPPOE authentication?
[08:07] <Flying-Penguin> glyph: yes but what abought this multi sound program... do theas 3 programs work with it by defalt?
[08:07] <netsniper> ThE__OnE, it might ba a backport
[08:07] <netsniper> ThE__OnE, you have backports added?
[08:07] <jeavis> what is the sustitute to the hyperterminal in linux
[08:07] <jeavis> to configure routers
[08:08] <jward> jeavis: gtkterm
[08:08] <jeavis> i can fet gtkterm from apt get
[08:08] <ThE__OnE> backports?
[08:08] <yahalom> maydayj, yes
[08:08] <yahalom> maydayj, exactly pppoe
[08:08] <netsniper> jeavis, telnet?
[08:08] <jward> jeavis: sure, I installed it via synaptic
[08:08] <wross> i need the ubuntu kernel sources, where can i get them?
[08:09] <bob2> ThE__OnE: you don't, generally, you just wait until the next version of ubuntu comes out
[08:09] <spacey> wross, its in a package
[08:09] <bob2> wross: why
[08:09] <yahalom> maydayj, just as u said it
[08:09] <bob2> ?
[08:09] <jward> jeavis: I use it with cisco, juniper and riverstone
[08:09] <ThE__OnE> oh ok
[08:09] <maydayj> Yahalom - if they use Windows to authenticate PPPOE you need to turn of the Windows firewall and then enable Remote Desktop
[08:09] <ThE__OnE> bob2, so dont upgrade it manually?
[08:10] <ThE__OnE> from thw website
[08:10] <ThE__OnE> the*
[08:10] <bob2> ThE__OnE: do you actually need something that only 1.0.3 has?
[08:10] <ThE__OnE> it has fixes
[08:10] <maydayj> Yahalom - or put in an exception for RDP port 3389 in the exceptions list.
[08:10] <yahalom> maydayj, i havent used windows in a while. how do i enable remote deskop?
[08:10] <bob2> ThE__OnE: for things you care about?
[08:10] <wross> bob2, i looked into it and the drivers for my wireless card, and ndiswrapper require them.
[08:10] <r0d> whats a program to use for webcams?
[08:10] <maydayj> Yahalom - Right Click My Computer - Remote tab.
[08:11] <netsniper> ThE__OnE, that is the point of backports, fixes for later versions ported to earlier versions
[08:11] <yahalom> maydayj, do i have to enter anything in it?
[08:11] <netsniper> yahalom, grdesktop
[08:11] <bob2> wross: a) if it uses linux-wlan-ng (which you were trying to compile earlier), you don't need ndiswrapper, b) if you do need ndiswrapper, you already have the kernel driver installed (it comes with ubuntu)
[08:11] <maydayj> Yahalom - Nope just check the checkbox
[08:11] <yahalom> netsniper, ??
[08:11] <BobaFett> guys ... I need to mount a NTFS hard disk to read the files inside, its set as a primary slave... how do I exactly mount it? im new to this whole mnt bussiness...
[08:11] <bob2> wross: just install the ndiswrapper-utils package
[08:11] <ThE__OnE> bob2, not really i guess
[08:11] <netsniper> yahalom, grdesktop allows you to connect to Windows remote desktops
[08:12] <MrE> Jimbob, I don't see the parallel port in the Hoary device manager.
[08:12] <yahalom> maydayj, so right click my computer, remote tab >check enable or something?
[08:12] <MrE> Jimbob, You have yours set to ECP, correct?  I can at least verify that mine's set the same.
[08:12] <wross> ok,i am trying to install linux-wlan-ng drivers, but in the ./Configure pages it asks for the kernel sources
[08:12] <MrE> Jimbob, Not to throw a towel on the conversation but everything's printing fine from WinXP.
[08:12] <yahalom> netsniper, so does tsclient. grdesktop is betteR?
[08:12] <bob2> wross: ndiswrapper is completely different to linux-wlan-ng
[08:12] <maydayj> Yahalom - there will be two check boxes - one for remote assistance and one for remote desktop.... may as well check them both.
[08:12] <bob2> wross: you need one or the other
[08:13] <netsniper> yahalom, dunno -- ive used it many times
[08:13] <yahalom> maydayj, thats it
[08:13] <bob2> wross: also, if your card is supported by linux-wlan-ng, there's no need to compile anything, ubuntu ships with those drivers already
[08:13] <wross> well considering the linux-wlan-ng is what the manufacturer made the drivers with/fopr, that would be the best option right?/
[08:13] <yahalom> netsniper, good?
[08:13] <yahalom> maydayj, ?
[08:13] <netsniper> i guess, it wokrs
[08:13] <netsniper> !
[08:13] <yahalom> netsniper, u just put in their ip address?
[08:13] <maydayj> Yahalom - as long as the firewall is configured properly or disabled, that should be it.
[08:13] <bob2> wross: then you just need to load the correct linux-wlan-ng driver
[08:14] <wross> ok, how do i know how to do that/what modules to load?
[08:14] <BobaFett> guys ... I need to mount a NTFS hard disk to read the files inside, its set as a primary slave... how do I exactly mount it? im new to this whole mnt bussiness...
[08:14] <yahalom> maydayj, so i just need to tell them to go to myip.con so that i can get their ip right?
[08:14] <bob2> wross: dude
[08:14] <bob2> wross: how are you planning to use the linux-wlan-ng drivers after you compile them, if you don't know hwich one you need?
[08:14] <maydayj> yahalom - to get their wan ip get them to go to www.whatismyip.com
[08:15] <yahalom> maydayj, great.
[08:15] <yahalom> maydayj, cool man. thanks a ton. save me a trip across town
[08:15] <netsniper> yahalom, yes
[08:15] <wross> bob2 im just looking to get my wireless card working, its something i need, any help is appreciated i want to do it the best and easiest way possible
[08:15] <maydayj> yahalom - nprb
[08:15] <yahalom> netsniper, i'll try it
[08:15] <bob2> wross: you need to tell us what chipset it is
[08:15] <yahalom> maydayj, is it fast? or  a pain?
[08:15] <bob2> wross: if you say it's prism, then just plug it in
[08:15] <netsniper> wross, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[08:16] <yahalom> netsniper, is it in the repos?
[08:16] <bob2> netsniper: he/she does not need ndiswrapper, please don't recommend it to them
[08:16] <maydayj> yahalom - depends on their connection - but usually pretty quick on a good connection.
[08:16] <yahalom> maydayj, alright. thanx man.
[08:17] <wross> bob2 http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz, its a hawking we110p card, that site says it is either a prisim 2, 2.5, or 3
[08:17] <maydayj> yahalom - no probs
[08:17] <bob2> wross: awesome, so you don't need to compile anything.  when you plug it in, what happens?
[08:17] <wross> nothing that i notice...
[08:17] <yahalom> netsniper, grdesktop fully graphical?
[08:17] <cthulfuego> ubotu can not fetch stuff from the wiki.
[08:17] <ubotu> cthulfuego: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:17] <cthulfuego> s/not/now/
[08:18] <cthulfuego> !wiki Kubuntu
[08:18] <wross> bob2 the light on the card flashes on and off...
[08:18] <netsniper> yahalom, yes
[08:18] <bob2> wross: unplug it.  run "tail -f /var/log/kern.log".  plug it in.  does anything new come up?
[08:18] <wross> k
[08:18] <cthulfuego> !goo'boy
[08:18] <ubotu> Aww, thanks dad.
[08:18] <yahalom> netsniper, does it go fullscreen? like will i have any of my screen? cos in in tsclient i can set that up.
[08:19] <netsniper> bob2, he sais "easiest way" to get it installed
[08:19] <maydayj> yahalom - Terminal Server Client is stock and will work for your needs.  I'll give grdesktop a try sometime... but I know tsc works without a hitch.
[08:19] <bob2> netsniper: ndiswrapper is not the "easiest" or "best" way
[08:19] <netsniper> bob2, ndiswrapper is easiest
[08:19] <wross> please dont argue :) im just looking for help on how to do this :)
[08:19] <netsniper> bob2, other drivers are not streamlined -- every chipset setup is different
[08:20] <bob2> except it's not
[08:20] <netsniper> yahalom, i believe so
[08:20] <HrdwrBoB> netsniper: it's not streamlined at all
[08:20] <bob2> anyway
[08:20] <netsniper> HrdwrBoB, its like three commands to install your ndiswrapper driver
[08:20] <wross> hang on im going to do what you told me before bob2
[08:21] <r0d> anyone know a program that can open .chm files?
[08:21] <netsniper> ndiswrapper -i driver.inf; modprobe ndiswrapper; etc....
[08:21] <netsniper> r0d, xchm
[08:21] <r0d> cool
[08:21] <netsniper> r0d, for future reference try "apt-cache search chm"
[08:23] <r0d> figured i'd ask...usally faster
[08:23] <r0d> but got ya
[08:23] <Jesse1> netsniper, well it seems to play the file fine now just i have no sound i do have the w32codec's i just reinstalled them then
[08:23] <netsniper> hehe
[08:24] <netsniper> Jesse1, no sound in anythng?
[08:24] <netsniper> or jsut the media?
[08:24] <Jesse1> netsniper, just the media
[08:24] <yahalom> maydayj, if i want to connect to a linux box, how would i get in? if there is a firewall and all. any ideas?
[08:24] <Jesse1> i can hear my self clicking on things
[08:24] <wross> ok bob2 it says alot of stuff
[08:25] <wross> it looks like everything works fine
[08:25] <wross> no errors
[08:25] <netsniper> yahalom, make them connect to you?
[08:25] <netsniper> Jesse1, reverse shell?
[08:25] <Jesse1> netsniper,
[08:25] <topyli> hmm. my box fails to find hda. i wonder if it's the disk or the mobo that's dying
[08:25] <Jesse1> netsniper, ???
[08:26] <yahalom> yahalom, connection refused. my firestarter is stopping it. how do i allow it?
[08:26] <bob2> wross: cool
[08:26] <bob2> wross: now, does your AP use wep?
[08:26] <wross> no i have it disabled for now so i can get this working
[08:26] <bob2> awesome
[08:26] <wross> i dont live anywhere where wireless security is a big deal so it will probally stay like that
[08:26] <bob2> just type "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid foobarbaz"
[08:27] <wross> alright ill get back to you in a sec
[08:27] <netsniper> Jesse1, not sure
[08:28] <netsniper> yahalom, open the port in firestarter
[08:28] <wross> no such device: wlan0
[08:28] <Jesse1> netsniper, i get no sound comming out of totem
[08:28] <wross> eth1 seemed to work
[08:28] <synd> does the window manager "Ratpoison" work with ubuntu?
[08:28] <bob2> wross: ah, ok
[08:28] <wross> thats what it named it in that other command you told me to run
[08:28] <bob2> synd: sure
[08:29] <yahalom> netsniper, how?
[08:29] <topyli> anybody know if beagle will make it to breezy?
[08:29] <ajmitch> topyli: yes, most likely
[08:29] <netsniper> yahalom, run firestarter gui first
[08:30] <topyli> ajmitch: coolness
[08:30] <netsniper> yahalom, it should be easy to see it
[08:30] <synd> bob2, is it in the repos?
[08:30] <yahalom> netsniper, i suppose i cant connect to myself right?
[08:30] <ajmitch> topyli: as in, it's already in universe & being considered for main
[08:30] <ark3qqq> In what file do I put kernel module options?
[08:31] <Jesse1> netsniper,  doesnt matter any more i got it to work thanks for your help
[08:32] <topyli> ajmitch: it does work on my hoary box but i hope it will be inotified :)
[08:32] <bob2> synd: indeed
[08:32] <netsniper> netsniper, all localhost taffic should be allowed
[08:32] <wross> ah damn i forgot my antenna at home, hopefully this all worked
[08:32] <netsniper> Jesse1, what was it?
[08:33] <netsniper> ark3qqq, /etc/modules ?
[08:33] <Jesse1> netsniper, i had no sound then i remeber what bob2 said to get the sound to work in game's it was to kill the sound daemon so i gave that i try and bang the sound came back
[08:33] <netsniper> wross, you got native drivers working?  what device
[08:33] <wross> are there any apps out there kinda like the wireless manager on windows that will scan for APs then let me connect to them?
[08:33] <ark3qqq> netsniper: What's the syntax? Is it just modulename option=blah ... ?
[08:33] <bob2> netsniper: you realise native drivers work on nearly anything, right
[08:33] <wross> Hawking we110p pcmcia
[08:34] <netsniper> bob2, not on mine :-)
[08:34] <bob2> broadcom and texas instruments chipsets are about the only things that don't have linux drivers
[08:34] <netsniper> bob2, i have broadcom
[08:34] <synd> bob2, a misguided "ubuntu protester" said they didnt like ubuntu cause it didnt support "ratpoison"
[08:34] <wross> i found the card in a dumpster :)
[08:34] <bob2> wross: netapplet does
[08:34] <kestas> how do you make it so you dont have to enter your passphrase for your private key every time you want to log onto antoher host via ssh?
[08:34] <synd> bob2,, and i was dumfounded.
[08:34] <kestas> Im sure theres a way
[08:34] <bob2> synd: it indeed is not "supported" in the sense of getting security updates/etc, but it is available
[08:34] <topyli> ratpoison for default!
[08:34] <netsniper> bob2, you reverse engineer the broadcom drivers?
[08:34] <netsniper> lol
[08:34] <synd> of course, bob2
[08:34] <bob2> kestas: ssh-keygen -t rsa ; ssh-copy-id foo@bar
[08:35] <bob2> netsniper: what are you talking about?
[08:35] <synd> bob2, xfce isnt also "supported", correct?
[08:35] <bob2> synd: right
[08:35] <netsniper> bob2, i have broadcom and they are not supported by anthing except ndiswrapper
[08:35] <wross> netapplet eh? ill have to check that out
[08:35] <bob2> netsniper: yes, I know
[08:35] <kestas> bob2: I generated a key, and copied it across, but the problem is I have to enter the passphrase for my private key every time I log on to the remote host
[08:35] <bob2> netsniper: as I said, broadcom, is the exception
[08:35] <JohnFights> can anyone help me I can't access anything from the menu that uses gksu that needs root
[08:36] <netsniper> bob2, well -- thats why i am familiar with ndis
[08:36] <bob2> kestas: right, ssh-agent will cache it for you
[08:36] <kestas> k thanks
[08:36] <netsniper> bob2, but it works on everything with minimal setup
[08:36] <bob2> kestas: which should be started when you login
[08:36] <bob2> netsniper: please don't recommend ndiswrapper to people who can use native drivers
[08:36] <netsniper> hehe
[08:36] <kestas> bob2: hmm it doesnt seem to be, I log on enter my passphrase, log off, log on and have to enter it agani
[08:36] <topyli> JohnFights: change them to use gksudo
[08:37] <netsniper> bob2, how do you get iwp2100 working?
[08:37] <bob2> kestas: sure, it will drop it when you log out
[08:37] <bob2> netsniper: by using the drivers ubuntu ships
[08:37] <bob2> netsniper: I could have installed using my ipw2100
[08:37] <netsniper> bob2, siorfin is having trouble with it
[08:37] <bob2> netsniper: apparently he/she has an odd revision that needs a newer driver
[08:38] <kestas> bob2: I mean log off from ssh
[08:38] <kestas> bob2: I log onto ssh, enter my passphrase, disconnect, reconnect and have to enter it again
[08:38] <netsniper> bob2, so the process chanegs between revs huh?  doesnt dound very stramlined ;-P
[08:38] <bob2> kestas: I guess ssh-agent is running then
[08:38] <BobaFett> guys ... I need to mount a NTFS hard disk to read the files inside, its set as a primary slave... how do I exactly mount it? im new to this whole mnt bussiness...
[08:38] <kestas> bob2: then why isn't my passphrase being remembered?
[08:39] <JohnFights> i will try that but isnt there another way to fix it they worked a fews days ago? also how would i fix the icon that updates ubuntu it has the same problem
[08:39] <bob2> netsniper: going back to your amazing understanding of statistics, surely you'd agree that one person whinging on irc is not meaningulf
[08:39] <netsniper> lol
[08:39] <netsniper> bob2, like i said -- use browser stats man
[08:39] <bob2> kestas: because ssh-agent isn't running
[08:39] <bob2> netsniper: that's useless, as lifeless explained
[08:39] <bob2> netsniper: unless you have access to the web logs of every site in the world
[08:39] <netsniper> bob2, no...
[08:39] <kestas> bob2: okay then why did you say ssh-agent is running?? youre damn confusing you know
[08:39] <siorfin> so you know how to get an ipw2100 working from the ubuntu drivers on repository?
[08:40] <bob2> kestas: I said it should be running
[08:40] <netsniper> bob2, you just need a sample dude -- you think drug manufactures test everyone in the world before putting out drgs like viagra???!?
[08:40] <bob2> siorfin: please file a bug if the drivers don't work for you
[08:40] <netsniper> you are so retarded i dont even know...man
[08:40] <bob2> netsniper: er, pharmaceutical companies don't do proper testing, in many cases
[08:40] <bob2> netsniper: please just stop babbling
[08:40] <netsniper> bob2, well you are just plain wrong
[08:40] <bob2> your misunderstanding of this issue is quite amazing
[08:41] <BobaFett> Come on, guys, nobody ever mounted a ntfs hdd? Im really getting frustrated with this whole mount thing :(
[08:41] <JohnFights> if i reinstall ubuntu does it delete everything on the hd?
[08:41] <ajmitch> netsniper: just drop this pointless issue, please
[08:41] <bob2> BobaFett: lots of people did, and some of them even pointed you at the website which explains it: www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:41] <gehel> BobaFett, I did it a couple of times. What's your prob ?
[08:41] <bob2> JohnFights: on the partition you install to, yes
[08:41] <dr_willis> BobaFett,  you mount it as you do any other drive. with the file system type of ntfs. (unles syou want to WRITE to it.. then .. well thats dangerous)
[08:41] <topyli> JohnFights: yes, on the install partition
[08:41] <maydayj> BobaFett -- search for linux NTFS project on Google.  There is a web site at sourceforge.net
[08:42] <sknroiws_> Does ubuntu come with a firewall?
[08:42] <netsniper> sknroiws, try firestarter
[08:42] <synd> sknroiws, firestarter
[08:42] <netsniper> ls
[08:42] <bob2> sknroiws_: it doesn't do anything by default
[08:42] <netsniper> ls
[08:42] <netsniper> lol
[08:42] <sknroiws_> Im trying to get apache to work
[08:42] <bob2> sknroiws_: and there's no need to make it do anything on a stock install
[08:42] <BobaFett> Im brIm browsing through ubuntu support, cant find anything on mounting ntfs drives...
[08:42] <wross> bob2 and whoever else thankyou for your help with my wireless card :
[08:42] <sknroiws_> But friends say they cant see it
[08:42] <lifeless> netsniper: pharaceutical testing is done to observe the result of applying a change to individuals, where the individuals are selected to give a good representation of the population, where you have control groups, and the distribution is well known. None of that applies to browser stats.
[08:42] <sknroiws_> So im assuming something is blocking the ports or something
[08:43] <gehel> I'm looking for a command to mv files that supports regexp. I remember having seen a "super-mv" but cant find it back
[08:43] <BobaFett> cant even seem to get the hdd's id right
[08:43] <BobaFett> :(
[08:43] <bob2> BobaFett: partition one of primary slave = /dev/hdb1
[08:43] <bob2> gehel: "rename"
[08:43] <topyli> BobaFett: mount -t ntfs -o=ro,umask=0 /dev/hdXX /mount/point. something like that
[08:44] <netsniper> if you need commerical ntfs write support, paragon makes one
[08:44] <maydayj> BobaFett - sudo fdisk -l
[08:44] <gehel> bob2, that's the one ! the obvious is sometime hard to find ...
[08:44] <JohnFights> bob2 not sure if you remember but I was asking the same question yesterday? Do you know any way I might fix the problem without reinstalling
[08:44] <bob2> JohnFights: no idea, sorry.  I'd assume you change something that broke it, but I couldn't guess what.
[08:45] <BobaFett> ahhhh then its hdb1, not hda1 ... that seems to be my mistake
[08:45] <BobaFett> lets see what it does ... thanks, guys :)
[08:46] <JohnFights> thanks I am going to try the forum and ask if not looks like I need to reinstall.
[08:46] <Seveas> morning all!
[08:47] <Seveas> JohnFights, what have you done to make a reinstall neccessary?
[08:47] <Jesse1> is there any windows media 10 codec's for totem-xine?
[08:47] <Seveas> w32codecs ...?
[08:47] <Seveas> or at mplayerhq.hu
[08:47] <JohnFights> some how broke using programs that need root in the menu
[08:48] <Jesse1> thats only got windows media play 9
[08:48] <JohnFights> the never start unless i use a terminal window
[08:48] <JohnFights> oops they
[08:48] <Razor-X> how do you bind a command for 'forward' in .bashrc?
[08:48] <Seveas> JohnFights, that is odd
[08:49] <JohnFights> not sure what i did to break it but I must have done something
[08:49] <Seveas> try this from a normal terminal: gksudo synaptic
[08:49] <Seveas> and see what happens
[08:49] <Seveas> Razor-X, forward as in 'next song in my music player'?
[08:49] <Razor-X> Seveas: no, as in terminal forward
[08:50] <Razor-X> like, moving your cursor forward one character
[08:50] <Seveas> you use the arrow keys :)
[08:50] <bob2> Seveas: that works for him/her, it doesn't work fro mthe menu
[08:50] <JohnFights> nothing happened unless its taking a long time to load
[08:50] <Seveas> or read the manpage for bash
[08:50] <Seveas> that's too weird
[08:51] <bob2> it's a readline thing
[08:51] <JohnFights> gksudo didnt work i think i used sudo or gksu the other time i tried from terminal
[08:51] <Seveas> do you get the 'Enter your password to run... screen'?
[08:51] <topyli> JohnFights: are you sure you have gksudo? try 'which gksudo'
[08:51] <davidmccabe> I'm trying to install vmware 5, and I've got a problem:
[08:51] <davidmccabe> The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.10-5) does not match your running
[08:51] <davidmccabe> kernel (version 2.6.10-5-386).  Even if the module were to compile successfully,it would not load into the running kernel.
[08:51] <davidmccabe> 
[08:52] <kestas> is there any way to have ssh-agent; ssh-add kestas@10.10.2.1; run at the start of a gnome session? preferably with ssh-agent running graphically like gksu?
[08:52] <Jesse1> is there any way to record streams?
[08:52] <topyli> Jesse1: streamripper
[08:52] <JohnFights> /usr/bin/gksudo
[08:53] <topyli> JohnFights: ok, it's there. strange
[08:53] <kestas> JohnFights: is there something like gkssh-agent?
[08:53] <Jesse1> yes that looks like an alright program
[08:53] <JohnFights> kestas, do you want me to do the same as topyli asked me to do except put gkshh-agent?
[08:54] <kestas> JohnFights: nevermind
[08:54] <atrus-socal> quick one: which packages contain the sun or blackdown jre/jdk?
[08:54] <Seveas> kestas, i've aliases ssh to if [[ -z `ssh-add -l | grep identities` ] ] ; then ssh-add; fi; /usr/bin/ssh
[08:54] <Seveas> dirty hack :)
[08:55] <Seveas> atrus-socal, none
[08:55] <topyli> atrus-socal: it's not in the ubuntu repositories
[08:55] <Seveas> atrus-socal: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[08:55] <bob2> atrus-socal: it's not in ubuntu due to the silly license
[08:55] <atrus-socal> awesome, ok :)
[08:55] <action09> silly :)
[08:55] <JohnFights> bob2, its worst today i just tried any synaptic doesnt work from the terminal using gksu or gksudo or sudo
[08:55] <atrus-socal> yeah, I'm not happy with java licensing, but need it for some things :-/
[08:56] <Crasp> or use blackdown from www.blackdown.org
[08:56] <topyli> Seveas: that's the fastest java howto i've seen in a while :)
[08:56] <Crasp> it also has apt mirrors
[08:56] <JohnFights> sudo says this Segmentation fault
[08:56] <JohnFights> the rest give no error
[08:56] <bob2> JohnFights: this sounds lke your disk is screwed
[08:57] <Seveas> topyli, i've added it as a shortcut in my client
[08:57] <topyli> heh
[08:57] <Seveas> JohnFights, either your harddisk/memory is dying or you have installed from a bad cd
[08:57] <BIGDADDY> hola
[08:58] <BIGDADDY> alguien habla espaol ?
[08:58] <JohnFights> :(
[08:58] <Seveas> BIGDADDY, #ubuntu-es
[08:58] <topyli> BIGDADDY: #ubuntu-es
[08:58] <bob2> it's not a bad cd, apt will refuse to install packages with incorrect md5sums
[08:58] <BIGDADDY> Thanks
[08:58] <Seveas> hmm, true
[08:58] <bob2> tho the segfaults could from other things, like a broken kernel rootkit or whatever
[08:59] <topyli> buggy rootkits suck
[08:59] <Seveas> unless somehow the md5sum got magically changed to the correct value too ;)
[08:59] <bob2> hah
[08:59] <kestas> Seveas: ah thats a nice one :) thanks
[08:59] <hacktop> hey
[09:00] <bob2> the rootkit's that were put on the debian.org machines were found quicker because they were buggy
[09:00] <bob2> and kept ooping
[09:00] <hacktop> any one know how to change your resolution? i configed my XFREE for a higher res.. but it stayed the same as the original 1024.768
[09:00] <Seveas> hacktop: To find out ho you can change your display's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:01] <finlaylabs> anyone know how to set up /home as encrypted (using reiserfs)? Doesnt seem to be an install option.
[09:02] <bob2> haha, encrypted reiserfs
[09:02] <JohnFights> looks like time to back up and try reinstalling
[09:02] <bob2> finlaylabs: http://www.saout.de/misc/dm-crypt/
[09:02] <bob2> JohnFights: that's not going to fix a failing disk
[09:02] <finlaylabs> bob2: why haha? Ive used it for a couple years on suse
[09:03] <JohnFights> the disk if fine
[09:03] <bob2> JohnFights: how do you know that?
[09:03] <JohnFights> i have ran test on it and the problem is only in ubuntu no other os
[09:04] <JohnFights> gentoo runs fine,winxp fine,fedora fine
[09:05] <bean> can someone help me get my sound card working... im a newbie
[09:05] <dr_willis> bean,  and the card is a ?
[09:05] <bob2> JohnFights: what test?
[09:05] <bean> creative sound blaster live. Ubuntu only picks up the onboard card which is a nforce2
[09:06] <dr_willis> bean,  well you should disable the onboard  - in the bios.
[09:07] <dr_willis> you useing the digital out on the sblive card?
[09:07] <bean> i can do that? it's a Asus mboard A7N8X-E
[09:07] <bean> nope
[09:08] <ChinaCatJones> i am narrowing some issues on a clean install of 5.04 on a decrepit laptop, can someone take a look at this http://rafb.net/paste/results/SG1cfc20.html
[09:08] <dr_willis> I'd hope the MB makers had it where you can disable the thing..
[09:08] <dr_willis> finding where in the bios may be the next task :P
[09:08] <ChinaCatJones> the thing flickers like crazy
[09:08] <bean> lol.. ok thanks.. i'll try that
[09:08] <bean> bye
[09:08] <dr_willis> ChinaCatJones,  the lcd screen flickers?
[09:09] <finlaylabs> bob2: do you personally use dm-crypt / have found it safe and stable? It looks too far from recipe-installation for me.
[09:09] <bob2> no, I haven't, yet, I keep meaning to backup and encrypt my /home
[09:09] <ChinaCatJones> dr_willis: the lcd is fine, it looks more like a refresh issue
[09:09] <finlaylabs> bob2: stuffing up your encrypted data is a sure-fire way to waste days.
[09:10] <bob2> finlaylabs: afaik dm-crypt is the onlye encrypted disk thing in the mainline kernel, tho
[09:10] <ChinaCatJones> dr_willis: for example line 94 looks like it is call for true color, i'm fairly certain the card isn't up to it
[09:10] <finlaylabs> bob2: if in the kernel we presume its pretty quality, fair?
[09:11] <bob2> finlaylabs: I'd think so, yes
[09:11] <finlaylabs> bob2: still, any prob with reiserfs encrypt?
[09:12] <dr_willis> ChinaCatJones,  yea a lcd screen can only show about 16bit color.. an older lcd perhaps even worse.
[09:12] <dr_willis> ChinaCatJones,  also they all use a refresh rate of 60hz (or was that mhz) i forget :P
[09:12] <bob2> finlaylabs: no, I just have a general aversion to reiserfs
[09:12] <ChinaCatJones> dr_willis, this thing is Vintage pentium 200mmx
[09:13] <dr_willis> ChinaCatJones,  i put Ubunto on my Pent100 Laptop. :P pent 1
[09:13] <dr_willis> ChinaCatJones,  and yes it took FOREVER to install.
[09:13] <dr_willis> and i highly suggest useing some very minimal window manager. Like Openbox. or windowmaker.  heh heh
[09:14] <rommer> i got ubuntu on my 350mhz p2 with php, mysql and apache web server runnign
[09:14] <ChinaCatJones> dr_willis: I'm with you I spent the better part of a day getting a xircom card up and the better part of an afternoon installing
[09:14] <dzik_24> hallo everyone
[09:14] <dr_willis> ChinaCatJones,  may want to do a 'server' install and use the shell :P
[09:14] <dr_willis> be hard core!\
[09:15] <_root_> anybody know the scriplet to show the progress symbol shown during fsck runs ?
[09:15] <rommer> dr_willis: thats what i do
[09:15] <rommer> i dont even have a keyboard or monitor plugged into it
[09:15] <rommer> i just use ssh
[09:16] <finlaylabs> bob2: well I may try dm-crypt on my very-old test machine. Do you recommend ext3 as most reliable fs then?
[09:16] <elesouef> Hi, I'd like to install the motif libs. They are part of the debian non-free packages. Is there a way to get them ?
[09:16] <dzik_24> I have a little prob. My synaptic touchpad stoped work
[09:16] <ChinaCatJones> actually that is sort of the plan, I am hoping to run a couple of light weight network services of the thing without x 99.9 percent of the time
[09:16] <wross> fuck uy
[09:17] <wross> niggers
[09:17] <bob2> finlaylabs: yes
[09:17] <kestas> how do you flush out your apt-get cache and all that?
[09:17] <cthulfuego> apt-get clean
[09:17] <SNIa> there's no op in here to kick trolls?
[09:18] <finlaylabs> bob2: thanks 4 link, advice :)
[09:18] <bob2> SNIa: there's lots of us
[09:18] <SNIa> ah
[09:18] <bob2> he/she was k-lined before I even finished doing +o
[09:18] <SNIa> heh
[09:18] <SNIa> thanks
[09:18] <kestas> does anyone know if theres a better alternative to tsocks?
[09:18] <UdontKnow> bob2: :)
[09:18] <bob2> finlaylabs: np
[09:18] <UdontKnow> bob2: I am quick on the trigger
[09:18] <auk> what's with wross?
[09:18] <bob2> UdontKnow: it's doubly weird, since wross was in here half an hour ago getting help configuring his/her wireless card
[09:19] <bob2> UdontKnow: hah, indeed
[09:19] <ChinaCatJones> no good deed goes unpunished
[09:19] <dr_willis> perhaps her kid/son/cat got on the pc.
[09:19] <Seveas> bob2, maybe he wasn't satisfied ;)
[09:19] <bob2> ze magic fingers!
[09:19] <auk> i have to go to bed :-(
[09:19] <cthulfuego> !wiki Wireless
[09:21] <FlannelKing> Hey guys, Im trying to set up subversion to work with apache2, and I keep getting a "Can't open file [path] ': permission denied" error, any help?
[09:21] <ChinaCatJones> dr_willis backing it down from 24 to 16 seems to do the trick
[09:22] <thieflar> I have a question: how do I upgrade firefox? I've installed 1.0.4, and I can run it from the folder it's in, but when I run "firefox" it still loads up 1.0.2 as the default.
[09:22] <bob2> FlannelKing: if you're using bdb, apache needs read and write access to your repository
[09:22] <bob2> thieflar: you don't want to touch the one insytalled from ubuntu
[09:22] <thieflar> bob2: i don't?
[09:22] <bob2> thieflar: just put your local one ahead of the ubuntu one in your PATH
[09:22] <FlannelKing> Im using fsfs, and I chown'd to www-data:www-data
[09:22] <FlannelKing> would bdb be a better choice?
[09:22] <bob2> ah, ok
[09:22] <thieflar> bob2: in my PATH?
[09:22] <bob2> no
[09:23] <rronkiv> .................................................
[09:23] <rronkiv> Sorry
[09:23] <bob2> thieflar: when you type a command like "firefox", your shell goes through the directories in the PATH variable to find where that command is
[09:23] <bob2> thieflar: if you put the dir where your local firfox is at the front of that list, it will be found ifrst
[09:23] <cyphase> My Server -> 00:22:14 up 43 days, 18:57,  3 users,  load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00
[09:23] <thieflar> bob2: ohh, ok thanks!
[09:24] <bob2> heh, my laptop has that much uptime ;p
[09:24] <FlannelKing> Ive followed a couple of different 'howto's none of them seem to work (all have the same error), the latest one I tried is.... http://wiki.debian.net/?SubversionApache2SSLHowto since I found a link inthe forums to that
[09:24] <FlannelKing> followed it to the letter, and still this error
[09:25] <FlannelKing> well, different username, but still to the letter
[09:25] <bob2> #svn might be able to help you more
[09:25] <FlannelKing> same server?
[09:25] <FlannelKing> alright, thanks
[09:26] <cassie> hi
[09:26] <cyphase> hey cassie
[09:26] <cyphase> bye cassie
[09:26] <cyphase> :)
[09:27] <ChinaCatJones> dr_willis, i am getting a whopping 22.5 fps on glxgears
[09:27] <finlaylabs> bob2: a step toward dm-crypt ease of use? http://luks.endorphin.org/about
[09:28] <bob2> finlaylabs: looks neatr
[09:29] <ChinaCatJones> anyone have a suggestion for a good light weight window manager
[09:29] <joh_> ChinaCatJones: WindowMaker
[09:30] <vulcanoo> hello
[09:30] <ciocanel> ChinaCatJones, xfce
[09:30] <vulcanoo> coud someone tell me how i can disconnect from vnc with terminal server client?
[09:36] <Razor-X> so... about .bashrc binds?
[09:36] <Razor-X> how would you bind comands to forward-1-character, and other basic movement controls?
[09:36] <bob2> it's a readline thing
[09:37] <bob2> man readline
[09:37] <cletus_> anyone know what program will combine part.rar files ?
[09:38] <j4sp> Hi , I have a laptop with an Athlon XP 2800 processor. It is capable of running at 1600 mhz, but in ubuntu it runs at 800 mhz.
[09:38] <Crasp> j4sp: i seriously doubt that is an issue with ubuntu :)
[09:38] <Choubaka> j4sp: it's in powersacing mode.
[09:38] <bob2> cletus_: unrar does that
[09:38] <Choubaka> saving*
[09:38] <cletus_> oh ok, so I would need to issue some paramaters with the unrar command?
[09:39] <j4sp> is there a way to change this setting? the cpufreq software doesn't work for my processor, and i couldn't find anything in the bios.
[09:39] <bob2> cletus_: no
[09:39] <rommer> my athlon 2400 goes at 1800mhz
[09:39] <bob2> just unrar the .rar file in the directory full of parts
[09:39] <Choubaka> j4sp: I think it should use the entire 1600 MHz if you need it :P
[09:39] <Crasp> j4sp: it probably throttles between speeds so if you do something cpu intensive it should go to 1600
[09:39] <cletus_> unrar one file will unrar all files in the same dir?
[09:39] <bob2> no
[09:40] <j4sp> really?
[09:40] <bob2> it will unrar the the .rar file, using the parts as needed
[09:40] <j4sp> that makes sense
[09:40] <Choubaka> j4sp: That's how it should work at least.
[09:40] <Crasp> SNIa: but some stuff you get of the net doesn
[09:40] <Crasp> 't ship in bzip format
[09:40] <j4sp> the gnome device manager says the max speed = 1600 and the current speed = 800
[09:40] <SNIa> yeah... unfortunately heh
[09:41] <Crasp> SNIa: i consider rar to be quite a good compression tool, it's just that it's commercial
[09:41] <bob2> compression-wise it isn't very impressive
[09:41] <bob2> I'm pretty sure rzip will spank it on basically everything
[09:42] <Crasp> rzip?
[09:42] <bob2> rzip.samba.org
[09:42] <SNIa> better than bzip2?
[09:42] <Crasp> never heard of it
[09:42] <Crasp> i'll check it out
[09:42] <bob2> SNIa: yes
[09:42] <bob2> it uses bzip2
[09:42] <cletus_> thanks bob2 :)
[09:42] <Crasp> SNIa: i think rar with best compression already surpasses bzip2 compression
[09:42] <j4sp> thanx guys.
[09:42] <bob2> but with a 900MB window
[09:43] <SNIa> well, you can use bzip2 with -9 or best
[09:43] <Crasp> i know
[09:43] <Crasp> i've seen some tests tho where the compression of rar was a little bit better
[09:44] <Crasp> can't speak out of my own experience, so i base it on those testresults :)
[09:44] <Choubaka> I've heard that 7zip is better than rar.
[09:44] <Crasp> but usually the few more bytes you can compress doesn't really weigh against the time it takes to compress
[09:45] <Choubaka> Crasp: it does matter if you're sending the files over the internet.
[09:45] <Crasp> well duh :)
[09:45] <Crasp> but seriously.. if you have to pack 15 more minutes on let's say 1gb to save 2mb it's not really worth it for me
[09:46] <BIGDADDY> please send me the url of ubuntu spain or spanish =
[09:46] <BIGDADDY> please
[09:46] <atrus-socal> hence I use gzip :)
[09:46] <SNIa> or if you hosting  afile...
[09:46] <BIGDADDY> #ubuntu-es
[09:46] <Crasp> but if it's smaller and takes less time it also saves less
[09:47] <bob2> it's a complex tradeoff <:)
[09:47] <Crasp> yep
[09:48] <Crasp> and it's also quite limited with the dictionaries, at some point it's not very usefull to add another dictionary to save 1 byte
[09:49] <Crasp> i hope some genious will come up with something brilliant soon to get rid of the dictionary method
[09:49] <Crasp> but i don't think it will happen in the near future :)
[09:50] <bob2> so, I did some silly tests, and compressed a 51MB .wav file and found flac made it 39MB, and bzip2 and rzip made it 49MB
[09:50] <Crasp> heh
[09:50] <slept> Is there a way to configure gamin (gam_serv) I don't want it to take care of my cdrom , but I can't find a configuration file
[09:50] <Crasp> flac might use a different method that works for sound but not for other stuff
[09:51] <Crasp> tho one would say it's digital so you should be able to get the same wav file back
[09:51] <bob2> oh, sure, flac is audio-specific
[09:51] <bob2> and won't produce byte-for-byte identical .wav files
[09:51] <Crasp> well no, but it's lossless so the result is the same
[09:52] <Crasp> at least, for the ear
[09:52] <riffic> hi
[09:52] <bob2> right, the audio stream is the same
[09:52] <riffic> there used to be a version of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto in the old wiki that didn't have all this imwheel sillyness
[09:52] <yuzs> hullo
[09:52] <Crasp> or better said, in an audio-specific way it's the same
[09:52] <bob2> yup
[09:52] <bob2> riffic: people are advocating imwheel????
[09:53] <riffic> does anyone have this saved or is there a way for me to look up something from the old wiki
[09:53] <riffic> yeah it looks like someone edited it
[09:53] <riffic> and then it was imported into the moin wiki
[09:53] <Crasp> imwheel is trying to reinvent the wheel :)
[09:53] <riffic> i had it set up perfectly a bit ago without it
[09:53] <Crasp> riffic: i don't think i've used imwheel since 1999 or so :)
[09:54] <riffic> well I just want to get the side buttons on my mouse to work in firefox
[09:54] <Crasp> riffic: you can map all buttons in your xorg/xfree86.conf
[09:54] <riffic> k
[09:54] <riffic> but its sort of not working
[09:54] <Crasp> hmm i have them working at home, but am at work
[09:55] <riffic> the page used to have the right way but someone changed it to use (ugh) imwheel
[09:55] <Crasp> they should be punished :)
[09:56] <bphan> has anyone here gotten enlightenment to work?
[09:56] <Crasp> riffic: try this: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=46
[09:57] <aethera> hi all
[09:58] <riffic> ah yes evdev
[09:58] <riffic> thanks crasp
[09:58] <aethera> evdev?
[09:58] <Crasp> riffic: keep in mind that if you tell xorg that you have 7 buttons your up/down scroll becomes 6/7
[09:58] <riffic> cool
[09:59] <riffic> evdev beats the crap out of imwheel
[09:59] <Crasp> i use mousgestures for firefox at work
[09:59] <Crasp> works quite nice
[09:59] <Crasp> *mousegestures
[10:02] <SNIa> I got an mx1000 mouse
[10:02] <SNIa> I got the side buttons to work, forward & back in firefox
[10:03] <ekCo> hello
[10:04] <SNIa> ehllo
[10:04] <ekCo> i keep getting this error with anything graphics, leafb0x@ekCo:~$ glxgears
[10:04] <ekCo> glxgears: relocation error: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: symbol gnu_dev_makedev, version GLIBC_2.3.3 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time referenc
[10:04] <sknroiws__> How do you tell cedega to use 32bit libraries
[10:05] <aethera> does anyone here know of a visual studio.net ide for linux except monodevelop
[10:05] <cyphase> does anyone have an ida when Gnome 3 is coming out?
[10:05] <cyphase> idea*
[10:06] <aethera> :)
[10:06] <SNIa> http://www.gnome.org/roadmap/
[10:06] <ekCo> can anyone help me?
[10:06] <cyphase> depends on what you need ekCo
[10:06] <SNIa> if gnome3 isn't listed there, then the answer will typically be "when its ready"
[10:07] <ekCo> cyphase, i keep getting an error message when running nvidia drivers.. ie. glxgears et6c
[10:07] <ekCo> error:  glxgears: relocation error: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: symbol gnu_dev_makedev, version GLIBC_2.3.3 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time referenc
[10:07] <cyphase> ekCo, you sure you have an nvidia card?
[10:07] <ekCo> .. ofcourse i've got a nvidia card..
[10:10] <ekCo> brb may of fixed it
[10:12] <aethera> does anyone here know of a visual studio.net ide for linux except monodevelop
[10:13] <aethera> is there a app to save entire websites to your harddrive?
[10:13] <cyphase> aethra, yes
[10:13] <cyphase> wget
[10:13] <aethera> no man
[10:13] <aethera> its for my mom
[10:13] <cyphase> lol
[10:13] <bphan> has anyone here install enlightenment
[10:14] <cyphase> httrack
[10:15] <cyphase> httrack.com
[10:16] <aethera> cyphase: now lol help me find a proper ide for linux
[10:17] <cyphase> aethera, which language?
[10:17] <cyphase> C#?
[10:17] <aethera> yeah
[10:17] <cyphase> no idea
[10:17] <aethera> except mono
[10:17] <aethera> :(
[10:17] <cyphase> i don't know anything about C#
[10:17] <cyphase> lol
[10:17] <aethera> lol
[10:17] <aethera> <[10:17] <cyphase> which languages do you know?
[10:17] <cyphase> besides php and c#
[10:18] <aethera> php python c# c++ c perl java and basic
[10:18] <aethera> and asp.net
[10:18] <ChinaCatJones> bphan- I installed enlightenment there is a link in the forums to french website, although written in french the guys directions were so clear you could follow them
[10:18] <cyphase> aethrea, a text editor seems like your best bet
[10:18] <cyphase> lol
[10:19] <cyphase> maybe an advanced one
[10:19] <zyth> what sucks is the complete lack of pascal tools in ubuntu's repositories
[10:19] <cyphase> but nothing to special
[10:19] <cyphase> zyth, switch to python. ubuntu is crawling in it
[10:19] <cyphase> lol
[10:19] <cyphase> 4 'lol's..
[10:20] <cyphase> i better watch myself
[10:20] <ChinaCatJones> bphan-  the links and everything I used are in this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30525&highlight=enlightenment+french
[10:20] <zyth> I am trying to decide if I want to go with FPC or Kylix.
[10:20] <zyth> hurm hurm
[10:20] <cthulfuego> dutch, english, german, french, C and BASIC
[10:20] <cthulfuego> Just coz Ubuntu is full of it, doesn't mean python doesn't suck ass.
[10:20] <cthulfuego> !forums 30525
[10:21] <ubotu> Forums: Thread 30525 is: Ubuntu Forums - HOWTO: E17 Installation/Customization on Hoary
[10:21] <ChinaCatJones> bphan- here is the actual website https://vogelweith.homeftp.net/Linux/e17.php
[10:21] <bob2> nifty
[10:21] <aethera> cthulfuego: python is a awsome language
[10:22] <anouar> but it is difficul;t to learn
[10:22] <zyth> whoa, I ahve security updates
[10:22] <anouar> :P lol
[10:22] <bob2> hm, I'd agree it'se awesome, but it's also pretty easy to learn
[10:22] <zyth> sude and tcpdump apparently
[10:22] <zyth> lol
[10:23] <cyphase> python doesn't suck ass
[10:23] <cyphase> ;)
[10:23] <unome> Body language is the best of all.
[10:23] <anouar> unome: i agree!:D:P
[10:23] <riffic> yay I have mouse buttons working again
[10:23] <zyth> what's a good language for learning GNOME programming?
[10:23] <riffic> without using an ugly hack like imwheel and xmodmap
[10:23] <zyth> like GTK and crap
[10:24] <unome> anouar keefak
[10:24] <riffic> someone should really fix the wiki to take that imwheel crap out of it
[10:24] <riffic> evdev is so much easier
[10:24] <erb> hi
[10:25] <anouar> unome lebas?
[10:25] <unome> riffic: imwheel is really crap
[10:25] <unome> anouar: wee wee
[10:25] <anouar> unome: are you marocooan?
[10:25] <unome> anouar: maroccoan?
[10:26] <riffic> unome: yeah
[10:26] <anouar> are you from marocco
[10:26] <unome> it's morocco but no thank G-D
[10:26] <anouar> yeah i know:D:P
[10:26] <anouar> so what's keefak?
[10:27] <unome> keefak you understood it, didntcha
[10:27] <anouar> so
[10:28] <riffic> how are you
[10:28] <ekCo> hey
[10:28] <ekCo> i need some help with my nvidia-drivers..
[10:28] <unome> that's it
[10:28] <ekCo> i removed the current nvidia drivers from ubuntu, and installed the 7664 via sh nvidia*.run etc etc, now it keeps giving me this error.
[10:28] <anouar> unome: Right;)
[10:29] <ekCo> leafb0x@ekCo:~$ glxgears
[10:29] <ekCo> glxgears: relocation error: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: symbol gnu_dev_makedev, version GLIBC_2.3.3 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[10:29] <ice04> hi all
[10:29] <riffic> works for me
[10:29] <ice04> whats the best download accelerator for ubuntu
[10:29] <riffic> i'm running the downloaded drivers
[10:29] <unome> wget
[10:29] <ice04> Bitorrent
[10:29] <phantom_> =)
[10:30] <riffic> maybe try using the same compiler the kernel was compiled with ?
[10:30] <riffic> wget isn't really an accelerator
[10:30] <unome> ha!
[10:30] <bionic> nameserver in resolv.conf, if i ahve two, should they both start with "nameserver" or the other nameserver2 or something?
[10:30] <bionic> have.
[10:30] <riffic> nameserver is fine
[10:30] <ekCo> how can i delete the custom installed one and return back to ubuntu's/*debs?
[10:31] <riffic> ekCo: i think its just something in /lib/modules
[10:32] <ekCo> erm riffic ?
[10:32] <riffic> /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-k7/kernel/drivers/video
[10:32] <segphault> ubuntu can't seem to read 2x UFS dvd's that I burned on my powerbook
[10:32] <riffic> your kernel version of course =)
[10:32] <segphault> are there any hoops I have to jump through to get ufs support?
[10:32] <ekCo> and how will i uninstall this riffic ?
[10:32] <Firetech> hmm
[10:32] <riffic> sudo delete nvidia.ko
[10:33] <ekCo> you sure?
[10:33] <riffic> should do the trick
[10:33] <Firetech> my apt-key for archive.ubuntu.com is gone, or atleast has it stop working.
[10:33] <riffic> i don't believe it scatters anything else around on your drive
[10:33] <riffic> i could be wrong though
[10:33] <riffic> I usually am
[10:34] <Invisible_Magi> this new Ubuntu is fast
[10:35] <Invisible_Magi> the whole overall o my system is alot faster than the last Ubunut version I ran
[10:35] <riffic> wait till breezy
[10:35] <ekCo> whats the command again, apt-get install build-essentials
[10:37] <black-whisp> sad... flashplayer does not support 64bit.. :(
[10:38] <catch> Does anyone have any experience of viewcvs please? I've set most of it up just got a couple of issues, mainly turning it on
[10:38] <catch> hey nermal :)
[10:38] <Nermal> :)
[10:39] <ekCo> hello, my nvidia-drivers are skrewed, can anyone help?
[10:40] <zyth> okay now I'm amused
[10:40] <zyth> the DOS unit from pascal works for file IO in linux
[10:40] <zyth> hee
[10:43] <FlannelKing> how do I change security permissions (SELinux)?
[10:43] <linlinm> Is there any utilities available that I can use to resize a partition?
[10:44] <Nermal> parted
[10:44] <Nermal> gparted
[10:44] <kestas> FlannelKing: what do you mean 'security permissions'?
[10:44] <FlannelKing> security context, sorry
[10:44] <FlannelKing> on redhat apparently theres a command chcon, but it doesnt exist on Ubuntu
[10:45] <TiMiDo> FlannelKing: man chmod
[10:45] <linlinm> Nermal how do I get gparted?
[10:45] <linlinm> apt-get doesnt return anyhing
[10:45] <catch> aptitude search gparted
[10:45] <Nermal> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[10:45] <Nermal>   gparted libglibmm-2.4-1 libgtkmm-2.4-1 libsigc++-2.0-0
[10:45] <FlannelKing> not chmod, chcon
[10:45] <Nermal> works here
[10:46] <Nermal> man chcon :)
[10:46] <FlannelKing> it doesnt exist
[10:46] <Nermal> o
[10:46] <catch> aptitude search chcon
[10:46] <catch> p   switchconf
[10:46] <catch> that the same thing?
[10:46] <FlannelKing> gparted is universe
[10:46] <Nermal> http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/chcon1.html
[10:47] <linlinm> Nermal do you have additional sources in your sources.list?
[10:47] <FlannelKing> so, linlinm, youll need to add that
[10:47] <FlannelKing> universe has gparted
[10:47] <linlinm> I dont know what that means
[10:47] <catch> linlinm: just make sure that universe is enabled
[10:47] <FlannelKing> its another repository
[10:47] <Guest03> help a newb out plz!?
[10:47] <linlinm> How? :-X
[10:47] <catch> linlinm: and do an apt-get update
[10:47] <linlinm> ok
[10:48] <FlannelKing> Nermal, I need to know the equivalent ubuntu command, to set security context in Ubuntu
[10:48] <linlinm> done
[10:48] <linuxboy> how do i play mpg and wmv files in ubuntu ?
[10:48] <Nermal> FlannelKing, o
[10:48] <Nermal> linlin, install w32codecs
[10:48] <Nermal> linlin, best read http://ubuntuguide.org
[10:48] <FlannelKing> linuxboy: he meant you, w32codecs
[10:48] <linlinm> :-X
[10:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> why is linux so addicting?
[10:49] <FlannelKing> because we all grew up on CLIs?
[10:49] <fatalerror> hehe, i feel the same way ChurcH_of_FoamY
[10:49] <catch> ChurcH_of_FoamY : because you don't pay through the nose for something that never works
[10:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i haven't used my winbox in 2 monthes
[10:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i'm actually happy
[10:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no crashes no viruses
[10:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i got a virus in my e-mail today for win and i was saddend
[10:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it diden't crash my box
[10:50] <linlinm> ok so i did apt-get update, now what
[10:50] <vRider> Hi!
[10:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> poor haxors.
[10:50] <FlannelKing> apt-get gparted
[10:50] <synd> apt-get install gparted
[10:50] <FlannelKing> eh, that too
[10:50] <synd> mhm
[10:50] <linuxboy> FlannelKing: what repo?
[10:51] <synd> linuxboy: do the ubuntuguide.org/#repositories
[10:51] <FlannelKing> dont know, someone else said it, just with wrong name
[10:51] <linlinm> E: Couldnt find package gparted
[10:51] <FlannelKing> linlinm: did you enable universe?
[10:52] <linlinm> How sir?
[10:52] <synd> linlinm, ubuntuguide.org has the HOWTO to install gparted.
[10:52] <linlinm> ok
[10:52] <learn25> hi all!
[10:52] <synd> linlinm, i stress that you do each step, esp #2
[10:52] <learn25> hi all ;-)
[10:53] <rbrenart> so I just ran a "killall esd" to get sound working in a particular program, and I'm noticing sound is working now in several programs it wasn't before... is there any good reason to run ESD, and if not, how to I just disable it so I don't have to deal with it when I reboot next?
[10:53] <learn25> anybody knows how to make ubuntu an ftp server?
[10:53] <synd> rbrenart: ubuntuguide.org seach for "sound fix"
[10:53] <learn25> anybody knows how to make ubuntu an ftp server?
[10:54] <vRider> I've problem with sound
[10:54] <synd> vRider: ubuntuguide.org
[10:54] <synd> vRider: there is a sound fix near the bottom of the pace.
[10:54] <synd> page
[10:54] <atrus-socal> learn25: install vsftpd
[10:54] <djs> learn25, sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[10:54] <mr_pollock> I'm having an Installation problem -- I'm getting "Install the base system" error...
[10:55] <mr_pollock> with my new 5.04 i386 cd
[10:55] <zyth> mr_pollock, is this a CD you burned yourself?
[10:55] <mr_pollock> Yessir
[10:55] <atrus-socal> speaking of which, what apt sources do I need to get w32codecs?
[10:55] <zyth> I'd recommend 1) make sure disc is clean, 2) burn another copy of the iso at a lower speed
[10:55] <learn25> i already installed vsftpd. what is the default directory of my ftp?
[10:55] <learn25> i already installed vsftpd. what is the default directory of my ftp?
[10:55] <vRider> i have new Intel Hi defenition audio
[10:55] <zyth> sometimes if you burn too fast, the iso can get whacked
[10:56] <mr_pollock> Okay I'll try that right now zyth =) Thanks.
[10:56] <atrus-socal> learn25: the home directory of the logged in user
[10:56] <FlannelKing> does anyone know how to set security context in ubuntu?
[10:56] <atrus-socal> otherwise look at /etc/vsftpd.conf
[10:56] <zyth> mr_pollock, np
[10:56] <learn25> can i make an ftp folder for anonymous users?
[10:57] <mr_pollock> There a such thing as a NetInstall-CD with Ubuntu?
[10:57] <learn25> is that possible to create a directory for anonymous ftp? i mean the user don't need to supply a password.
[10:57] <synd> mr_pollock yes
[10:57] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i just figured out what was causing my cpu to idle so high
[10:57] <mr_pollock> I didn't see it on the Ubuntu download page... Is it already included in the full CD?
[10:58] <atrus-socal> learn25: cd ~ftp
[10:59] <atrus-socal> thats the default ftp anonymous directory
[11:00] <learn25> Thanks guys!
[11:00] <learn25> Thanks guys!
[11:00] <rbrenart> synd, thanks, I just made those changes, will reboot shortly... hope none of those goofed up what I just got working though... we'll see shortly
[11:01] <synd> rbrenart, no prob. good luck
[11:01] <rbrenart> Anyone know how to add items to the Places menu?
[11:01] <rbrenart> heh, no one ever knows that one, but there has to be a way!
[11:03] <ekCo> ok, anyone know a lot about nvidia drivers?
[11:03] <synd> i need to stop staying up so late so that i dont smoke all my cigs
[11:03] <synd> ekCo, the ubuntu forums and wiki does
[11:04] <virtuald> why is all text oversized in ubuntu?
[11:04] <fatalerror> mines not
[11:04] <mr_pollock> virtuald: so little old ladies like myself can read it easier?
[11:04] <fatalerror> ekCo, what do you need to know about nvidia drivers?
[11:04] <virtuald> :)
[11:05] <virtuald> it makes many badly written apps and webpages display wrong
[11:06] <linlinm> hm...ok, so i got gparted installed, but how am I to resize a partition if i am not able to unmount it?
[11:06] <linlinm> bootable cd?
[11:07] <djs> rbrenart, try editing the file ~/.gtk-bookmarks
[11:07] <ekCo> fatalerror, what i've done.. was manually installed the latest drivers, 7664. Now when they installed, they corrupted by not being able to delete the ubuntu ones, so i canceled the installation, apt-get removed nvidia-glx (then reinstalled the 7664 drivers) now it keeps coming up with errors, about not finding certain lib files, etc.
[11:08] <djs> ,,, addeubg entries like:   file:///path/to/dir
[11:08] <ekCo> fatalerror, So now im stuck with segments of nvidia driveres scattered around my system, i need to know how i can wipe all traces of nvidia-drivers and restart my nvidia opertations with the default updates from ubuntu's/*debs
[11:08] <djs> *adding (shivers)
[11:09] <fatalerror> ekCo: i'm not sure how to wipe out all traces of the drivers, sorry
[11:09] <linlinm> Any ideas on how i can resize my partition if i cant unmount it since the machine is running?
[11:09] <lleberg> Why does my xmms take 12.7% of my cpu  power? :)
[11:10] <mikas> linlinm, you can't.. boot it with a live-cd
[11:10] <mr_pollock> lleberg: they were really trying to make it like winamp?? ;)
[11:10] <ekCo> fatalerror, do you know how i can atleast get the 7664 drivers working?
[11:10] <lleberg> I'm playing nsf trough festalon :P
[11:11] <lleberg> I think it's kind of strange.. X takes 1.4, firefox takes 2.3 and xmms takes 12.7 :P
[11:11] <fatalerror> ekCo: the only thing i did was use apt-get install nvidia-glx.. then i enabled the config.. did you try that?
[11:11] <zyth> lleberg, beep-media-player
[11:13] <ekCo> fatalerror, yes i have.. but when i do this, the nvidia-kernel headers are different from the ubuntus 7174 drivers
[11:14] <mmichelli> helllo all, I've got a BT Voyager 1020 card (ENE CB1410) anybody know how to get it installed
[11:14] <fatalerror> ekCo: strange, im not sure what you should then
[11:14] <ekCo> hmm
[11:15] <mmichelli> i dont even know where to start
[11:16] <linlinm> waht is a bt voyager 1020 card first of all
[11:16] <QMario> What are the games that come with Ubuntu written in?
[11:16] <mmichelli> sorry a wireless card
[11:16] <linlinm> see if the manufactrer makes a driver for it, if not, get started with ndiswrapper
[11:17] <lleberg> When trying to open a mpg-file with Mplayer (vls didn't work at all) it says "Error opening/initializong the selected video_out (-vo) device.", why is this?
[11:17] <htaccess_> how do i change the behaviour of nautilus to not open new windowss all the time and have a tree on the side?
[11:17] <mmichelli> ok, how easy is the ndiswrapper to use
[11:19] <htaccess_> with ubuntu on an ibook how do i right click?
[11:19] <bob2> htaccess_: f12
[11:19] <bob2> or f11, I forget
[11:19] <Firetech> why does /etc/debian_version in ubuntu say 3.1, fooling most system information scripts?
[11:21] <kestas> compatibility
[11:21] <jtorgers>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY beatles
[11:21] <htaccess_> bob, yea f12 thanks
[11:22] <htaccess_> bob2 how about 3 button emulation for pasting?
[11:23] <learn25> hi. anybody knows the directory of the configuration file for vsftpd?
[11:23] <mr__pollock> zyth: me on ubuntu! Thanks! It was the CD after all...
[11:23] <learn25> hi. anybody out there knows the directory of the configuration file for vsftpd?
[11:24] <mr__pollock> learn25: vsftpd.conf ?
[11:24] <zyth> mr__pollock, awesome :D I'm glad it worked
[11:24] <learn25> yes
[11:25] <htaccess_> so is it possible to make nautilus behave like a normal file manager and not like an old mac?
[11:25] <learn25> i want to edit config file of vsftpd but i dont know where it is. Anybody knows it default directory?
[11:26] <sly> learn25 locate vsftpd* ?? just an idea
[11:26] <htaccess_> there seems to be no preferences, the help mentions view -> side pane but its not there
[11:26] <mr__pollock> htaccess: the way I do it is by opening a home directory, going into edit-->preferences, and the Behavior tab, then selecting "Always open in browser windows"
[11:26] <htaccess_> mr__pollock, thanks i'll try that
[11:27] <sly> learn25
[11:28] <sly> locate reveals
[11:28] <sly> /usr/share/man/man8/vsftpd.8.gz
[11:28] <sly> /usr/share/man/man5/vsftpd.conf.5.gz
[11:28] <sly> ?
[11:31] <Seveas> Mornin' all!
[11:31] <norwyn> gmorning.
[11:31] <fatalerror> howdy
[11:32] <cmihai> IS anyone familiar with software RAID on SATA disks with LVM ?!
[11:32] <htaccess_> /etc/vsftpd.conf if its the same as sarge, see: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=vsftpd&version=stable&arch=i386
[11:32] <cmihai> And why the hell grub won't install on those, lilo won't either, but grub installs on the ATA disk and boots it, no problme ?!
[11:32] <cmihai> But I get:
[11:32] <cmihai> devfs_mk_dir: invalid argument <4> devfs.mk_dev: could not append to parrent for / disk
[11:35] <learn25> Anybody can help me. How can i open/read the files on my floppy drive that was saved under windows?
[11:36] <Nermal> mount the floppy drive :P
[11:36] <Seveas> afaik you cannot boot from an lvm
[11:36] <slept> cmihai, you'll need an additional boot partition to boot from, 50MB should be enough
[11:36] <Seveas> learn25, go to places -> computer and click on floppy 1...
[11:36] <Nermal> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy or whatever
[11:36] <cmihai> slept: I have a 128MB /boot as RAID 1 (software)
[11:36] <cmihai> and a 320GB / partition as RAID 0
[11:36] <cmihai> and a LVM on the RAID0
[11:36] <Seveas> Nermal, floppy's are user in fstab, so no sudo needed :)
[11:37] <cmihai> And a swap and root on LVM
[11:37] <Seveas> just mount /dev/fd0 will do it
[11:37] <Nermal> ah
[11:37] <Nermal> cool
[11:37] <learn25> will my floppy mount everytime i boot?
[11:37] <Seveas> learn25, only if you mount it yourself or use the GUI (places->computer) to read things from it
[11:39] <selinium> Mornig Seveas :)
[11:39] <cmihai> devfs_mk_dev: could not append to parent for /disc
[11:39] <cmihai> devfs_mk_dir: invalid argument.<4>devfs_mk_dev: could not append to parent for /disc
[11:39] <cmihai> I get like 1000 messages like theese at boot.
[11:39] <learn25> it seems that it can't read the fat file ysystem of my floppy disk
[11:39] <iphitus> dont use devfs? what about udev?
[11:41] <slept> cmihai, you need raid to be compiled into the kernel it won't work with a module to boot from it .
[11:42] <cmihai> Well, I don't even care about booting from it now, I care about those strange errors for one. I've seen something like that on the debian bugs mailing list also, but no fix from what I've seen.
[11:43] <cmihai> http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/11/msg00588.html -> basically, I get the same problems.
[11:44] <sknroiws__> Whats a locale?
[11:46] <iphitus> http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=locale
[11:46] <sknroiws__> How do i find out what my locale is?
[11:46] <iphitus>  <programming> A geopolitical place or area, especially in the
[11:46] <iphitus> context of configuring an operating system or application
[11:46] <iphitus> program with its character sets, date and time formats,
[11:46] <iphitus> currency formats etc.
[11:47] <sknroiws__> Can I just pick any locale?
[11:47] <sknroiws__> I have a list
[11:47] <darksatanic> Pick the one that best describes where you are.
[11:47] <holycow> http://193.151.73.87/games/lemmings/  <-- all done in javascript
[11:47] <linlinm> ubuntu doesnt prompt you for which locales i thought
[11:47] <sly> ^ ace
[11:48] <linlinm> it didnt for my install a few hours ago
[11:48] <sknroiws__> Im doing something else
[11:48] <sknroiws__> It has prompted me for it
[11:48] <sly> i saw a puzzle bobble one done in java befor
[11:49] <twilight> hello there, after an upgrade (breezy) my gdm.conf was bad. i've correct this, and now gdm starts correctly. but when i do the login, after that the system draw lower panel's icons, the system crash. mouse and keyboard not respond any more. slorenzo.ath.cx is mine $HOME/.xsession-errors
[11:49] <sknroiws__> So how do I find out which one to select?
[11:49] <twilight> sorry, slorenzo.ath.cx/xsession-errors
[11:51] <slept> cmihai, I don't know about raid I never used it , you van try to make a "normal" / and mount everything there with differnet lv's (I think there must be a way that is nicer but that should work)
[11:52] <Seveas> twilight, look at the topic :)
[11:52] <sknroiws__> What would happen if I select all the locales?
[11:52] <Seveas> it would use some diskspace :)
[11:52] <cmihai> slept: I'll try that. Still, I've seen the one of the problems I got on the debian mailing list, and.... no solution. I'll see about what I can do.... thanks.
[11:53] <FlannelKing> you'd have a lot of language files
[11:53] <sknroiws__> Well I only want the english one
[11:53] <Seveas> sknroiws__, but please select only C and UTF-8 locales
[11:53] <sknroiws__> Which one is english
[11:54] <sknroiws__> How do I find out which one is for english/
[11:54] <Seveas> en_US.UTF* UTF8
[11:54] <Seveas> en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8
[11:54] <Seveas> that one
[11:55] <sknroiws__> Great :)
[11:57] <twilight> Seveas, i have breezy from one month, so if someone knows how to resolve the problem, thanks..if no, when i have done the upgrade from hoary to breezy, i knew that there are some difficulties :)
[11:57] <twilight> (sorry for my bad english :\)
[11:57] <bionic> Where is all the network info stored? Ip,gateway, netmask etc?
[11:58] <carlos> bionic, /etc/network/interfaces
[11:58] <DunkMaster> hello
[11:58] <DunkMaster> where is the start up program list?
[11:59] <bionic> carlos, hum dont have /etc/network, only /etc/networks, but in that file there was only local info
[11:59] <bionic> ubuntu 5.04
[11:59] <slept> bionic, what are you looking for ?
[12:00] <carlos> bionic, I'm too with 5.04 and it's there here
[12:00] <bionic> carlos, weird
[12:01] <Adross> anyone got the logs of that windows troll earlier today?
[12:01] <JanC> DunkMaster : you want to run a program on startup ?
[12:01] <DunkMaster> yea
[12:01] <bionic> slept, well, i need to permanent change my netmask, nameservers etc, does it change perm when i use the ifconfig command and change resolv.conf(nameservers) ?
[12:01] <bionic> i mean when i reboot.
[12:01] <JanC> System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[12:02] <DunkMaster> okay
[12:02] <Seveas> bionic, only if you do not use dhcp
[12:02] <DunkMaster> will try
[12:02] <DunkMaster> thanx
[12:02] <JanC> and then the tab most on the right
[12:02] <DunkMaster> i forgot to tell
[12:02] <DunkMaster> im on XFCE
[12:02] <JanC> ah  :)
[12:02] <DunkMaster> :P
[12:03] <JanC> try the XFce docs ?
[12:03] <DunkMaster> oh
[12:03] <DunkMaster> damn
[12:03] <DunkMaster> i forgot about that
[12:03] <DunkMaster> thanx
[12:03] <DunkMaster> :)
[12:04] <Firetech> yay, I modified phpSysInfo so that it detects ubuntu too :D
[12:05] <Adross> ah xfce
[12:05] <Adross> its like gnome-lite
[12:05] <bionic> Seveas, ok i dont, good then
[12:05] <Ubuntu1> Hello all.
[12:05] <Adross> ahoy Ubuntu1
[12:05] <Ubuntu1> Adross: Ahoy. ;-)
[12:06] <SNIa> dang it, now I want chips ahoy
[12:08] <kvidell> yay for rocky horror picture show
[12:10] <Nermal> any monopod debs for ubuntu ?
[12:10] <slept> bionic, you'll have to edit /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/network/interfaces for permanent changes
[12:11] <bionic> slept, did that now, seems to work fine, thanks for the help
[12:15] <slept> Is there a way to configure gamin (gam_serv) not to care about cdroms, it's really getting on my nerves to kill it if I want to unmount ?
[12:17] <linlinm> How can i start a second X session, i dont want gnome to start i jsut want the X gui
[12:17] <Juhaz> it should poll everything mounted to /media by default in a way that doesn't prevent unmounting
[12:17] <sknroiws__> Im trying to install point2play small using this guide http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu#Building_a_clean_32bit_chroot_with_debbootstrap
[12:17] <sknroiws__> And Ive become lost
[12:18] <TooSad> hi all
[12:18] <lpk> Hello. What could i use to filter "harsh" content from web pages?
[12:18] <sknroiws__> It says #  Open a run button.
[12:18] <sknroiws__> # Type: <samp>gedit .point2play/.winex_ver/winex-4.3.1/bin/winex3</samp>
[12:18] <sknroiws__> But when I do that
[12:18] <sknroiws__> Its a blank file
[12:18] <lpk> My 5 year old brother is using my parents' ubuntu computer and i don't kind of like for him to happen to wander into a porn site
[12:19] <ivoks> lpk: eh... install squid and squidguard
[12:19] <lpk> Ok :)
[12:19] <lpk> ty
[12:20] <ivoks> setup firefox/any other broswer to use proxy port and you are done
[12:20] <sknroiws__> can anyone help me?
[12:20] <TooSad> after 1 hour my mouse pointer became black while at first it is white. Why?
[12:20] <lpk> Yep. Just that i didn't know of any such proxy software and thought asking for help would be the easiest way and it was ;)
[12:20] <ivoks> TooSad: cause you are using breezy
[12:21] <TooSad> no
[12:21] <ivoks> lpk: squid is most popular cache service :)
[12:21] <TooSad> i use hoary+
[12:21] <marcel> breezy is kind of pain in the ass right now...
[12:21] <Seveas> TooSad, you have overclocked your CPU and now your mouse is burned ;)
[12:21] <ivoks> marcel: heh, true
[12:21] <slept> Juhaz, but it does , when I try to umount it says busy and lsof |grep cdrom gives me  gam_serve  8326   ......
[12:21] <TooSad> no i hane not overclock
[12:22] <Seveas> TooSad, it was a joke :)
[12:22] <fatalerror> hehe
[12:22] <marcel> :)
[12:22] <TooSad> :D
[12:22] <ivoks> slept: PITA
[12:22] <Seveas> Juhaz, kill gam_serve then
[12:22] <sknroiws__> Im trying to install point2play small using this guide http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu#Building_a_clean_32bit_chroot_with_debbootstrap
[12:22] <sknroiws__> And Ive become lost
[12:22] <ivoks> slept: killall -9 gam_server
[12:22] <sknroiws__> It says #  Open a run button.
[12:22] <sknroiws__> # Type: <samp>gedit .point2play/.winex_ver/winex-4.3.1/bin/winex3</samp>
[12:22] <Seveas> s/juhaz/slept/i
[12:22] <sknroiws__> But when I do that
[12:22] <sknroiws__> its a blank file
[12:22] <Seveas> sknroiws__: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[12:22] <linlinm> How can i start a second X session, i dont want gnome to start i jsut want the X gui
[12:22] <sknroiws__> :/
[12:23] <sknroiws__> Well 6 people joined since I asked
[12:23] <GazaM> Is anyone here familiar with configuring SAMBA?
[12:23] <sknroiws__> Thought maybe they knew :P
[12:23] <Seveas> linlinm, gdmflexiserver (starts gdm, not meccessarily gnome
[12:23] <Seveas> )
[12:23] <TooSad> when can i make white my mouse?
[12:23] <Seveas> GazaM, there is a howto on the wiki
[12:24] <slept> ivoks, Seveas , it' no problem to kill it , but I would prefer to configure it not to care about cdrom that was my question
[12:24] <GazaM> I know about the how-to, but it states there is a graphical way in network manager, for me there is not
[12:24] <Seveas> slept, ah i see
[12:25] <slept> GazaM, install swat it well be reachable via localhost:.. you'll find in the man page
[12:25] <JohnMcClane> hi
[12:25] <JohnMcClane> i have a problem with hoary
[12:25] <marcel> i have some with breezy :D
[12:25] <aethera> anyone here run vmware?
[12:25] <aethera> is there a apt-source for it?
[12:25] <JohnMcClane> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=223694#post223694
[12:25] <twilight> marcel, me too :\
[12:26] <Seveas> JohnMcClane, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[12:26] <JohnMcClane> i have install all language pack -IT but some voice of menu and some apps are in english :(
[12:26] <GazaM> slept what do I need to type to get to webmin?
[12:26] <odyssey> aethera, vmware is not open source there will never be source for it
[12:26] <Seveas> make sure you create only UTF8 locales
[12:26] <xukun> which package do I need for dutch spelling check package voor thunderbird?
[12:26] <Seveas> xukun, language-support-nl perhaps
[12:26] <ivoks> slept: http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/config.html
[12:26] <marcel> twilight: which do you have?
[12:27] <odyssey> aethera, if you want an open source pc emulator try qemu
[12:27] <ivoks> JohnMcClane: learn enlish
[12:27] <twilight> marcel, X crash, after an upgrade..gdm.conf was bad, now it's ok..but after login, X crash..you?
[12:27] <ivoks> JohnMcClane: you see, gnome will not translate using magic
[12:27] <ivoks> JohnMcClane: someone has to do it, will you?
[12:28] <GazaM> Slept?
[12:28] <Seveas> KarlosII, that's no lightning, you took too much speed ;)
[12:29] <slept> GazaM, first you'll have to create an account for webmin with a script (that comes with webmin, which I can't remember the name of ) because you don't have an root acount , then localhost:10000 , but swat is nicer to use - the port is 900
[12:29] <KarlosII> Seveas, ehehe
[12:29] <KarlosII> ABennett Isn't that what happens before the invasion in War of the Worlds?
[12:29] <KarlosII> KarlosII that thought crossed my actually
[12:29] <Seveas> KarlosII, lol :D
[12:29] <KarlosII> :D
[12:30] <marcel> twilight, X crash, first because of font-dirs, then nvidia-drv (which made seg-faults on xmms, mplayer and wine - very strange), then Xkb-errors which made my x-server change resolution everytime i pressed a key - very funny :D...but now i got that all up running again....only my beagle won't find a "bone" anymore...but i didn't look after it yet...
[12:30] <slept> ivoks, thanks that what I was looking for
[12:31] <marcel> twilight, oh yeah, and my gaim won't show my online-buddies anymore... and im not shown online either...but we can chat through it...
[12:32] <twilight> marcel, i've reconfigured xserver-xorg, and i've put nv..i've had the Xkb-errors too, but i've solved it...
[12:32] <JohnMcClane> i have selected IT-UTF-8 but i not resolved
[12:32] <Seveas> JohnMcClane, you will have to logout and log back in
[12:32] <JohnMcClane> Seveas, i restart the computer, and selected in GDM italian
[12:33] <marcel> twilight, i solved it too, but i don't know how :D...how did you?
[12:33] <GNULinuxer> Seveas> you there?
[12:33] <twilight> marcel there are several bad links to correct, but i can't remember the specific files
[12:34] <Choubaka> hmm.
[12:34] <twilight> marcel, you can see my xsession-errors and see if you can help me?
[12:35] <GNULinuxer> Seveas> can we talk in private for a min?
[12:35] <Choubaka> I get this on boot: Setting up console font ... <linebreak> *t_kernel_font: invalid argument      [fail] 
[12:35] <marcel> twilight, don't know if i can, but i could take a look
[12:35] <twilight> slorenzo.ath.cx/xsession-errors , thanks in advance
[12:35] <Choubaka> everything seems to work fine, but it braks my cute bootsplash thing. :(
[12:35] <quitte> which package in breezy contains Xrender.h?
[12:35] <Choubaka> breaks* even.
[12:35] <Choubaka> quitte: xlibs-dev, I guess.
[12:36] <quitte> Choubaka: any way to give me an answer without guessing?
[12:36] <Choubaka> apt-file search Xrender.h
[12:37] <Choubaka> (you need apt-file installed, obviously.)
[12:37] <Choubaka> or you can go to packages.ubuntu.org
[12:37] <quitte> ok. can someone on breezy do that for me please?
[12:37] <quitte> ah.
[12:39] <Howitzer> lol
[12:39] <Howitzer> explain :D
[12:40] <Choubaka> I started with server install
[12:40] <Choubaka> I installed xfce4, finnish language suppor
[12:40] <Choubaka> t
[12:40] <Choubaka> and firefox, adblock, all that kind of stuff.
[12:40] <Choubaka> it's way more ram-friendly than gnome.
[12:41] <twilight> marcel, what you think about?
[12:41] <marcel> twilight, i get those _icetrans-errors too...
[12:41] <Howitzer> wtf
[12:41] <mr_pollock> Where can I find the grub config file or something like that? I can't find it anywhere in any menus...
[12:42] <mjr> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:42] <GNULinuxer> mp3wolf> you there?
[12:43] <Howitzer> wth
[12:43] <quitte> Choubaka: thanks a lot. I think I found my problem
[12:44] <Howitzer> my gmail notifier firefox extension won't log in
[12:44] <Nermal> oh well
[12:44] <Howitzer> it says the username and/or password isn't correct but it is since i just logged in it by www.gmail.com :/
[12:44] <kvidell> Howitzer: neither will my dashboard widget :-\
[12:44] <Howitzer> oh
[12:44] <Howitzer> maybe Gmail prohibited it
[12:45] <Howitzer> you could easily crack it and make it send the user-info to a person
[12:45] <kvidell> when eddie said he didn't like his teddy you knew he was a no good kid, but when he threatened your life with a switch-blade knife... what a guy... makes ya cry... und I did!
[12:46] <Howitzer> Oo
[12:46] <Howitzer> kvidell, are you having mental issues? :/
[12:46] <kvidell> no :-\
[12:46] <kvidell> I'm okay. Rocky Horror is on though
[12:46] <GNULinuxer> kvidell> hello
[12:46] <Howitzer> because my mom said never talk to weirdo's
[12:46] <kvidell> Hi :)
[12:46] <xukun> Seveas, I installed the language-support-nl but if I want to check spelling in thunderbird there is no dutch in the pull down menu!
[12:47] <kvidell> for historical nuttery and fun: http://www.shiftyeyed.net/pocho.log.txt ;)
[12:47] <GNULinuxer> xukun> you have to install a nl dictionary
[12:47] <GNULinuxer> kvidell> i am going to show it to Seveas
[12:48] <kvidell> (someone wanted a log of it so I did: grep -i pocho ~/.BitchX/logs/channel/*ubuntu.log > /var/www/shiftyeyed.net/pocho.log.txt ;P
[12:48] <Howitzer> Oo
[12:48] <xukun> GNULinuxer, what is the package name?
[12:48] <xukun> GNULinuxer, aspell-nl - Dutch dictionary for aspell, in new (August 1996) spelling ?
[12:49] <GNULinuxer> xukun> yeah
[12:49] <xukun> a bit old
[12:49] <Howitzer> what is that thingy which gives you widgets on your desktop?
[12:49] <kvidell> konfabulator?
[12:49] <kvidell> gdesklets?
[12:49] <Howitzer> ah yes
[12:50] <Howitzer> what is the best one?
[12:50] <kvidell> no idea
[12:50] <Howitzer> :(
[12:51] <Seveas> GNULinuxer..?
[12:51] <GNULinuxer> Seveas> yeah
[12:51] <GNULinuxer> Seveas> can we talk in private for a min?
[12:51] <Seveas> why would i ned to see that log?
[12:52] <Seveas> GNULinuxer, sure
[12:52] <Seveas> xukun, do you have mozilla-thunderbird-locale-nl ..?
[12:52] <Seveas> I thought it was included in the language-support...
[12:53] <slept> damn gamin the configuration file does nothing :(
[12:53] <xukun> Seveas, sec
[12:54] <slept> got to go have a nice time
[12:54] <xukun> Seveas, that package is already installed
[12:55] <Seveas> xukun, weird, it should be possible to have dutch spelling too (aspell-nl and m-t-l-nl installed)
[12:56] <Seveas> xukun, what if you start it with LC_ALL=nl_NL.UTF-8 mozilla-thunderbird
[12:56] <xukun> Seveas, the problem is if I go options - check spelling - language. then dont see dutch but only English/United States
[12:57] <Howitzer> wth
[12:57] <Howitzer> i have a i686 machine? Oo
[12:57] <Howitzer> *an
[12:59] <xukun> bbl
[01:12] <Seveas> The serene silence of an idling IRC channel
[01:12] <Myrtti> indeed
[01:13] <Seveas> and the noise of 30 workstations on the background :)
[01:13] <Seveas> bonjour keikoz
[01:13] <keikoz> :)
[01:13] <Seveas> vous savez que #ubuntu est un canal anglophone?
[01:14] <Seveas> hmm, my french is a bit rusty :)
[01:15] <Seveas> http://kaarsemaker.net/~dennis/GoogleX/
[01:15] <Seveas> Google - os X style :)
[01:16] <black-whisp> whpe made that. ;) its pretty cool.:D
[01:17] <kvidell> eek
[01:17] <kvidell> that crashed safari hard
[01:17] <kvidell> lol
[01:19] <Seveas> haha
[01:19] <Seveas> the google personal hompage also rocks
[01:19] <Seveas> it even has drag'n' drop in a website
[01:19] <kvidell> yea... the standard google one does too (if  you meant the silly one by "dennis")
[01:20] <Echylo> all laugh with the ones on the others ide
[01:20] <Echylo> http://www.andy-hawley.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/ms_guidance.jpg
[01:21] <Seveas> lol!
[01:21] <tamara> yo
[01:21] <Seveas> oy
[01:21] <Corical2> and ... im trying to install websphere ... can't run the binary file
[01:22] <Corical2> eh ... trying to shift from suse to ubuntu
[01:22] <Corical2> dont know this debian thing that well
[01:22] <{Seb}> Corical2: i'm going the other way!
[01:22] <Corical2> ahh i see {Seb}
[01:22] <Corical2> well, i also thought about bsd
[01:23] <Seveas> Corical2, what happens if you try to run it?
[01:23] <{Seb}> Corical2: the ubuntu update policy drives me mad!
[01:23] <Seveas> {Seb}, just don't use breezy
[01:23] <Seveas> you know it's unstable
[01:23] <Seveas> can't blame the ubuntu policy for that
[01:23] <{Seb}> Sevas: we have had this conversation before - how am I ment to run Mono 1.1.8?
[01:23] <Corical2> Seveas, well it's as if ubuntu dont know how to open the *.bin file
[01:24] <Seveas> Corical2, you will have to make it executable first...
[01:24] <Corical2> i didi
[01:24] <Corical2> chmod +x ble.bin
[01:24] <Seveas> Corical2, the run it from a terminal
[01:24] <Seveas> ./ble.bin
[01:24] <GNULinuxer> Corical2> ./ble.bin
[01:24] <Corical2> i tried, tells me permission denied
[01:24] <Corical2> im logged as root
[01:25] <Seveas> Corical2, try ls -l ble.bin and past the output here
[01:25] <Corical2> waqit now it is -> sh: /tmp/adielaunchpad: No such file or directory
[01:25] <{Seb}> Servas: i could dry the Debian packages!
[01:25] <Corical2> -rwxr-xr-x  1 tamara tamara 1807054 2004-09-06 00:00 launchpad.bin
[01:25] <Seveas> {Seb}, if you want mono 1.1.8 use the instructions on the beagle wiki...
[01:25] <Corical2> wait
[01:25] <kvidell> mm
[01:25] <Corical2> here we go
[01:26] <Seveas> or use a backport
[01:26] <Corical2> shot !
[01:26] <{Seb}> Seveas: there are not backports of 1.1.8
[01:26] <Corical2> thx guys
[01:26] <gahan> why epiphany-browser needs firefox?
[01:26] <Seveas> {Seb}, wh do you want this version specifically?
[01:26] <Corical2> oohhh goodie !
[01:27] <{Seb}> Sevas: it has a lot of bug fixes
[01:27] <Corical2> wasd, here i come ! :)
[01:27] <Seveas> {Seb}, and pinning your system to hoary except for mono?
[01:27] <Seveas> lol Corical2
[01:27] <seb128> gahan: because it uses gecko
[01:27] <Seveas> {Seb}, by the way: the mono packages have been in very heavy transition too the last weeks
[01:28] <Corical> cool ..
[01:28] <Seveas> So mono would not have been really stable on Breezy too..
[01:28] <gahan> seb128: gecko?
[01:28] <{Seb}> true
[01:28] <gahan> what is it?
[01:28] <Seveas> the HTML rendering engine of firefox
[01:29] <{Seb}> Sevas: the mono packages from http://debian.meebey.net/pkg-mono/mono/ work fine on hoary
[01:29] <{Seb}> Sevas: so everyone is happy!
[01:30] <seb128> {Seb}: that's by using packages out of the distribution than you get conflicts and upgrade issues
[01:31] <{Seb}> seb128: well, i don't know what to do. I obviously understand that Breezy is broken as it is development. I like Ubuntu but I also love Mono stuff
[01:31] <{Seb}> seb128: it seems to be the best solution atm
[01:31] <Firetech> Will the shipit system send me Breezy CDs (when they come) without any extra effort from my side? I.E. do I have to login or something to say "I want Breezy too"?
[01:31] <seb128> k
[01:31] <{Seb}> seb128: you agree?
[01:32] <{Seb}> seb128: when breezy starts to get better, i'll dist-upgrade then
[01:32] <seb128> you want to run uptodate unstable software on a stable distro, I would build it somewhere out of the distro
[01:32] <quitte> i didn't even get my hoary cds that i ordered long time ago
[01:32] <seb128> but that should sort of work
[01:32] <{Seb}> seb128: :-)
[01:32] <Firetech> quitte: I ordered mine about a week after the release, and got them yesterday.
[01:33] <{Seb}> Firetech: i got rid of 10 today!
[01:33] <Firetech> quitte: login and check if they have been sent yet...
[01:33] <Firetech> {Seb}: 55 to go then?
[01:33] <quitte> Firetech: hmm. maybe I ordered too many - but i wasn't contacted about why I want so many either
[01:33] <{Seb}> 64, there was a PowerPC one missing!
[01:34] <aspro> hello, i have downloaded the ppc nightly build of ubuntu and everything runs perfect until the login screen, it counts down, then the screen goes black and then it goes back to the login screen, anyone have any ideas?
[01:34] <aspro> oh, this is the live cd
[01:34] <Firetech> quitte: log in and check, my CDs were sent the 25th of May, and I got them yesterday, the 21st of June---
[01:35] <Firetech> *26th of MAy
[01:35] <Firetech> *May
[01:36] <quitte> they were not send and i dont see anything about cds waiting to be sent
[01:36] <Firetech> how many did you order?
[01:36] <aspro> noone had any similar trouble with any live cd? in anycase what is the default password? noone seems to know on ubuntu forums?
[01:37] <shawarma> WTF... I just checked my ShipIt page.. I ordered 25 x86, 5 PPC and 5 amd64.. Under quantitiy sent it says "5"..
[01:37] <mjr> I ordered 20 x86, 5 ppc, 5 amd64, still waiting
[01:38] <Firetech> shawarma: did you edit the page some time?
[01:38] <Corical2> arg, now this websphere installation window isnt responding.
[01:38] <shawarma> Firetech: Yup.
[01:38] <Corical2> geeez
[01:39] <Firetech> shawarma: that might be it
[01:39] <shawarma> Firetech: But not after the date they were shipped
[01:39] <shawarma> Firetech: I wonder which ones they've sent.
[01:39] <Firetech> I added a PPC CD about two-three weeks after I sent in the first order, but I didn't get it...
[01:40] <Firetech> and that was a month before they sent it
[01:40] <mbruemmer> hello everybod using ppc are invited to use channel #ubuntu-ppc
[01:40] <Firetech> I got 5 x86 and 1 AMD64 yesterday...
[01:41] <Firetech> I have changed my order so I hopefully will get 13 x86  and 2 AMD64 of Breezy. I have no contact with the PPC person anymore...
[01:43] <Firetech> quitte: Did you get warty CDs?
[01:44] <shawarma> Firetech: Hmm... Strange. Maybe I should adjust it for my Breezy needs already.
[01:44] <shawarma> Firetech: Wait a minute. I think I have changed my wishes like 10 times. Have they recorded them as 10 requests, then?
[01:45] <quitte> Firetech: yes
[01:45] <Firetech> shawarma: no, just one of them
[01:46] <Firetech> quitte: they send to those who didn't get Warty first (like me)...
[01:46] <quitte> ah ok. i just ordered hoary because all cds i ordered where distributed in 2 hours :D
[01:46] <Howitzer> ehh
[01:47] <Howitzer> how do you use gDesklets? :/
[01:48] <aurax_> hello
[01:48] <aurax_> E: Some packages could not be authenticated
[01:48] <aurax_>  - why do i get this error ?
[01:49] <Howitzer> ehh
[01:49] <Howitzer> because they haven't been marked as safe or something?(don't know, just guessing)
[01:49] <cens0red> hi.
[01:49] <aurax_> k
[01:49] <cens0red> can anybody recommend a midi sound font for ubuntu that's low on RAM usage?
[01:50] <cens0red> I'm having trouble finding one that works.
[01:51] <xxtreme> hello room I need help with irssi
[01:52] <aethera> xxtreme: ask the quesiton
[01:52] <quitte> xxtreme: it's a channel, not a room
[01:53] <xxtreme> after I connect to a server, how to I get a list of the chat rooms
[01:53] <bob2>  /list
[01:53] <bob2> but that command is basically useless, since servers often have tens of thousands of channels
[01:53] <xxtreme> not in irssi, tried that doesn't work
[01:54] <mesut> is there any place that i can find alternative source.list files ?
[01:54] <xxtreme> bob2_ any suggestions
[01:54] <quitte> xxtreme: /list -YES
[01:54] <xxtreme> did that also, no luck
[01:54] <quitte> alt-1
[01:54] <quitte> i just tried it works
[01:54] <xxtreme> i'll try that  alt-1
[01:54] <quitte> and it really is a bad idea
[01:55] <xxtreme> why quitte
[01:55] <shawarma> xxtreme: Unless you're on a really small network, there's going to be more channels than you can possibly comprehend.
[01:55] <quitte> the list is loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong
[01:55] <xxtreme> ok, say i want to connect here, how would i set it up
[01:56] <bob2> set what up?
[01:56] <xxtreme> to connect to ubuntu server
[01:56] <uncleandy> hi all
[01:56] <bob2> you're on the ubuntu irc server
[01:56] <aethera> lo
[01:56] <bob2> you mean automatically?
[01:56] <quitte> xxtreme: /server irc.freenode.org and /join #ubuntu
[01:57] <xxtreme> i know, but im using xchat not irssi
[01:57] <xxtreme> thanks guys
[01:57] <Corical2> this sounds bad ?
[01:57] <Corical2> ./wsappdevie51.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:57] <bob2> don't run random binary junk if you can avoid it
[01:57] <rob^> xxtreme, theres something under the options of xchat somewhere, or do what I did and write a python script for it
[01:57] <rob^> :)
[01:58] <xxtreme> cool rob^
[01:58] <Corical2> bob2, were you talking to me ?
[01:58] <bob2> Corical2: yes
[01:58] <bob2> Corical2: if you can't avoid it, install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[01:58] <Corical2> dude, its my websp[here ..
[01:58] <Corical2> i installed it jsut now, and wanna start it up
[01:59] <Corical2> so, it didnt create any place with a shortcut like in suse, so i figured that id have to run it from the dir where it installed to
[01:59] <bob2> Corical2: anyway, install that package
[01:59] <uncleandy> corical2: iv got a similiar prob to yours....
[01:59] <ChinaCatJones> how can I tell what is on port 10000, I can telnet to it, but get kicked with no feddback as to the service
[01:59] <Corical2> ok
[01:59] <jansen> why i can't use webmin
[01:59] <quitte> ChinaCatJones: webmin
[02:00] <bob2> ChinaCatJones: sudo netstat -plnt | grep 10000
[02:00] <bob2> ChinaCatJones: but it's probably webmin
[02:00] <Corical2> ye .. webbmin on 10000
[02:00] <jansen> Login failed. Please try again.
[02:00] <ChinaCatJones> i removed a wonky version of it, and when I try to reinstall it tells me 10000 is allocated to something
[02:00] <Corical2> ok, so where would i downlaod this ..
[02:00] <Corical2> :/
[02:01] <Corical2> i mscared to jsut down it anywayhere, at the end i mscrewing my system
[02:01] <bob2> Corical2: from ubuntu, of course
[02:01] <jansen> Login to Webmin
[02:01] <jansen> You must enter a username and password to login to the Webmin server on ubuntu.
[02:01] <jansen> Username 	
[02:01] <jansen> Password 	
[02:01] <jansen> Remember login permanently?
[02:01] <jansen> root join
[02:01] <Corical2> its the root pswrd
[02:01] <Corical2> uses the same password that the system uses
[02:01] <aethera> how do you install themes in gnome?
[02:02] <xxtreme_> bob2 thanks
[02:02] <xxtreme_> im there
[02:02] <aethera> http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity/1070
[02:02] <aethera> I downloaded that
[02:02] <uncleandy> corical2: run synaptic and change your distro to hoary under repositories
[02:02] <jansen> yes i do
[02:02] <uncleandy> then check for updates
[02:02] <cens0red> can anybody recommend a midi sound font for ubuntu that's low on RAM usage?
[02:02] <jansen> Error - Access denied for 127.0.0.1 faint
[02:02] <bob2> heh, I didn't think sound fonts still existed
[02:03] <Corical2> uncleandy, it is hoary alrady
[02:03] <aethera> anyone?
[02:03] <cens0red> bob2 well how else are u going to run midi?
[02:03] <bob2> aethera: drage it to themes:/// in nautilus
[02:03] <aurax_> anyone here using open-xchange ?
[02:04] <ChinaCatJones> here's the result http://rafb.net/paste/results/bERvq512.html
[02:04] <uncleandy> corical2: you can always run google.com/linux and search for the debian package, then run apt-get
[02:04] <aethera> the tar.gz?
[02:04] <aurax_> ?
[02:04] <aurax_> :P
[02:04] <VariusEgo> hello. I need help!
[02:04] <aethera> bob2: the tar.gz?
[02:04] <uncleandy> VariusEgo: whats wrong??
[02:05] <mindspin> look in the directory, what the other files look like ;-)
[02:05] <bob2> aethera: don't know
[02:05] <mindspin> im using kde so i can#t have a look here
[02:06] <VariusEgo> I have finaly managed to get ubuntu to recognize my wireless network card, and even managed to conned to the internet, but the connection is so slow that i cant do anything with it.
[02:06] <VariusEgo> I am using windows now.
[02:07] <uncleandy> variusEgo: from bad to worse, did u check all your network settings??
[02:07] <VariusEgo> yep, when i did iwconfig, everything looked right.
[02:07] <ChinaCatJones> VariusEgo:  I fought with xircom card really bad, not wireless, but this helped http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9860&page=4&pp=10&highlight=irqpoll
[02:08] <uncleandy> VariusEgo: as far as i know wireless only runs at 10base, but even that should be fine...
[02:09] <VariusEgo> I know. I am new to linux, but have found some really good tutorials, but dont have any clue where to go from here.
[02:10] <uncleandy> VariusEgo: did you check the ubuntu howto's??
[02:11] <VariusEgo> yep. thats where i got most of my info... everyone seems to have sucess with the methods i am using, but it wont work for me.
[02:11] <VariusEgo> I used a tutorial from azz on how to set it up with ndiswrapper, did so, and it works, just really slowly.
[02:13] <VariusEgo> i can ping sucessfully, but it takes 5 minutes to load google, and that works only half the time
[02:13] <uncleandy> VariusEgo: have you checked if theres a wireless channel on the freenode server??
[02:14] <VariusEgo> I thought it might be firefox, so i tried epifany (dont know if thats spelled right), but had the same resaults
[02:14] <mindspin> VariousEgo nameresolution trouble?
[02:14] <VariusEgo> nope, how would i do that? I am new to irc...
[02:14] <ChinaCatJones> did anyone take a look at my grep response?   http://rafb.net/paste/results/bERvq512.html
[02:14] <Corical2> found it at
[02:14] <Corical2> http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gcc-2.95/libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-22_i386.deb
[02:14] <uncleandy> mindpsin: VariuEgo is running wireless networking, but its slower than crap.... can you helP??
[02:15] <mindspin> this ha nothing to do with irc
[02:15] <uncleandy> Corical2: did you install it yet??
[02:15] <VariusEgo> mindspin: i am not sure, i dont have to use an IP address if thats what you mean, a normal 'ping google.com' works fine
[02:15] <Corical2> this url was very usefull -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HPDL385
[02:15] <mindspin> i've read it and thought maybe its a dns problem
[02:15] <Corical2> uncleandy, im going to now
[02:15] <bluefoxicy> holy crap breezy is actually working?
[02:15] <uncleandy> what i usually do is run aptitude install package...
[02:16] <uncleandy> bluefoxicy: shocking isnt it...
[02:16] <bluefoxicy> uncleandy:  it'll break by tomorrow ;p
[02:16] <mindspin> 'twas just a guess, I have no wireless
[02:16] <uncleandy> bluefoxicy: or in an hours time.... hehehe
[02:16] <bluefoxicy> uncleandy:  what'd be great though would be if the ubuntu devs wrote a broadcom driver :/
[02:16] <bluefoxicy> uncleandy: or someone, anyone
[02:17] <bluefoxicy> you know, so non-hackjob laptops can have built in wireless
[02:17] <uncleandy> bluefoxicy: you running ubuntu on a laptop now??
[02:18] <bluefoxicy> uncleandy:  my amd64 zv5405us has it
[02:18] <VariusEgo> I have tried linux-wlan-ng, and ndiswrapper, both with the same resaults... I am using a D-link DWL-122, any sugestions???
[02:18] <bluefoxicy> no ndiswrapper
[02:18] <bluefoxicy> VariusEgo:  laptop or desktop?
[02:18] <VariusEgo> desktop
[02:19] <bluefoxicy> ah
[02:20] <VariusEgo> like i said, they both work, but i cant do anything with either driver because the connection is so slow.
[02:20] <bigfoot1> hello everyone. I can't access a particular website, www.haloscan.com. I get this problem when I'm loading a blog using haloscan-hosting service, or when I try to load up www.haloscan.com itself. To check if the problem was with my Firefox browser, i also tried to load firefox on safemode. I also tried the built-in text "w3m" browser. Nothing works. I contacted my ISP, and they said that they themselves had no problems viewing haloscan.com.
[02:20] <bigfoot1> Can anyone help me?
[02:21] <uncleandy> bigfoot1: site opens on my side....
[02:21] <Tm_T> hullo
[02:21] <Corical2> great -> Error: Can't open display: :0.0
[02:21] <Corical2> now wtf ..
[02:22] <uncleandy> Corical2: smack the monitor..... doesnt help, but i usually feel better...
[02:22] <Corical2> im doomed
[02:22] <bigfoot1> uncleandy, thanks for your reply. I _know_ that the site is up.
[02:22] <Corical2> yea uncleandy ... i really dont knwo where to go from here, hey ..
[02:22] <Tm_T> who's Daniel Robitaille?
[02:22] <VariusEgo> should i just trie another distro?
[02:23] <uncleandy> Corical2: check google.com/linux for a howto...
[02:23] <bigfoot1> I have tried that site elsewhere and it works. But why won't this particular website work on my computer, when it works elsewhere, and when my ISP says it's okay?
[02:23] <uncleandy> VariusEgo: you could, but chances are it would be the same...
[02:23] <Seveas> Tm_T, Daniel Robitaille is Daniel Robitaille :)
[02:23] <Tm_T> Seveas: whoa, indeed ;)
[02:23] <mindspin> bigfoot javascript settings?
[02:23] <VariusEgo> i see
[02:23] <mindspin> missing flash or something?
[02:24] <uncleandy> minspin: the site doesnt use flash or anything.... pure html
[02:24] <mindspin> VariousEgo, have a try with a live cd
[02:24] <uncleandy> Seveas: hows it going??
[02:25] <bigfoot1> mindspin, javascript is not the problem. www.haloscan.com won't work at all, even in text browser. Tell me any other site that uses javascript and I can test it out and tell you that it works.
[02:25] <Corical2> lemme restart ...
[02:25] <Corical2> har har
[02:25] <VariusEgo> will do...
[02:25] <uncleandy> corical2: give it a try... worked for me last week....
[02:25] <mindspin> try www.spiegel-online.de
[02:26] <Corical2> ok, brb
[02:26] <mindspin> but javascript is't the issue you're right
[02:26] <bigfoot1> mindspin, http://www.spiegel.de/ is perfectly OK.
[02:26] <mbirkis> anyone got the terminal as background howto working from ubuntuforums.org? i have some issues with it
[02:26] <mindspin> maybe your ip is blocked ;-)
[02:27] <bigfoot1> mindspin, how can i check that?
[02:27] <Tm_T> mbirkis: you mean how to get Eterm to background?
[02:27] <mindspin> disconnect and reconnect
[02:27] <mbirkis> Tm_T: yes... have you read the howto?
[02:27] <mindspin> you should be given a new ip
[02:27] <Tm_T> mbirkis: nope, I did it my own way
[02:27] <mindspin> if you have dynamic ip
[02:27] <uncleandy> bigfoot1: ask your isp for a static dns....
[02:27] <mbirkis> Tm_T: ok... can you help me?
[02:27] <bigfoot1> mindspin, i have already disconnected and reconnected by restarting my comp
[02:27] <mindspin> wrong guess
[02:27] <Tm_T> mbirkis: maybe, problem is?
[02:28] <bigfoot1> uncleandy, mindspin, is there a way to find out my IP or DNS by myself, by somehow running a command in console?
[02:28] <Tm_T> bigfoot1: ifconfig ?
[02:28] <mindspin> vi /etc/resolve.conf
[02:28] <Tm_T> :p
[02:28] <aethera> how do you change the gnome splash screen
[02:29] <mbirkis> Tm_T: i followed the howto... but i am having difficulties placing the eterm where i wan't it on the screen... i also need to get rid of the border of eterm and the bar on the top with the minimise maximise stuff
[02:29] <Seveas> aethera: To change the Ubuntu splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image
[02:29] <bigfoot1> is there a way I can somehow mask or change my IP when I browse a website? (So I could check whether a particular website is blocking my IP)
[02:29] <Tm_T> mbirkis: Gnome?
[02:29] <uncleandy> aethera: check http://gnome-look.org/
[02:29] <mbirkis> Tm_T: yes
[02:29] <mindspin> vi /etc/resolv.conf
[02:29] <Tm_T> mbirkis: damn, I don't use Gnome myself :p
[02:29] <mindspin> haha
[02:29] <Seveas> bigfoot1, find an anonymous proxy :)
[02:29] <mindspin> thats ip spoofing
[02:29] <mbirkis> Tm_T: ok... i see, thnx anyway
[02:29] <bigfoot1> nameserver 210.147.240.193
[02:29] <bigfoot1> nameserver 202.225.94.247
[02:29] <bigfoot1> ~
[02:30] <Tm_T> mbirkis: but I think I can help you anyway
[02:30] <mbirkis> Tm_T: oh ;)
[02:30] <mbirkis> Tm_T: please do...
[02:30] <mindspin> change the first to 194.25.2.29
[02:30] <|stefan|> hey ppl =) i was just wondering. if i'm entering a ascii wep key in the network configuration. can i just enter it straight up ? or do i need to enter it in hex ?
[02:30] <mindspin> just for a test
[02:30] <Corical> GDM couldn't write to your authorisation file
[02:31] <Corical> oohhh, i love it !
[02:31] <Corical> this is wherethe fun starts
[02:31] <Tm_T> mbirkis: what's the problem with placing? you can't just drag it?
[02:31] <bigfoot1> mindspin, is it okay to change the nameserver info?
[02:31] <uncleandy> bigfoot1: just remember the old settings...
[02:31] <bigfoot1> Do we all have the same nameservers? or are mine unique to me?
[02:31] <mbirkis> Tm_T: i wan't it to start automatically and place itself to the top right of the screen
[02:31] <mindspin> there is no problem with it unless the server exists
[02:31] <Tm_T> mbirkis: and please give url to howto so I can see how it's done there :)
[02:32] <uncleandy> Corical: and??
[02:32] <mbirkis> Tm_T: 1sec
[02:32] <mindspin> bigfoot1 depends on your settings and or your provider
[02:32] <Corical> uncleandy. well, its screwed now
[02:32] <Corical> i cant log in, dunno wtf >
[02:32] <Corical> hmm, that was my root user
[02:32] <mbirkis> Tm_T: www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36811
[02:32] <uncleandy> Corical: try root....
[02:33] <bigfoot1> okay, i think, first, I'll try Seveas's idea of using an anonymous proxy.
[02:34] <mindspin> bigfoot was does route say
[02:34] <bigfoot1> regarding anonymous proxy, i went to http://www.multiproxy.org/multiproxy.htm. Do i need to download some program? OR do i just change the proxy settings on my firefox browser?
[02:34] <Tm_T> mbirkis: uh oh, tha'ts been a hard way on Gnome :p
[02:34] <bigfoot1> mindspin, how do i know what route says?
[02:34] <mindspin> type route
[02:34] <Corical> uncleandy. there is no user as root :(
[02:34] <Corical> i tried
[02:34] <mindspin> in the console
[02:34] <uncleandy> Corical: you could always reinstall ubuntu....
[02:34] <Tm_T> mbirkis: but I think you can control placing with --geometry option
[02:34] <Corical> man, wtf ..
[02:34] <mbirkis> Tm_T: ok
[02:34] <Corical> uncleandy. yea i think thats the only way dude
[02:35] <mesut> how many packages are available,with default hoary source.list ?
[02:35] <uncleandy> Corical: damn shame.... so there isnt even a root account??
[02:35] <mbirkis> Tm_T: but how do i know what to put in the geometry option?
[02:35] <Corical> eish, but still i had shit starting up websphere, so i think it might not be a better option ... ?
[02:35] <bigfoot1> Kernel IP routing table
[02:35] <bigfoot1> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[02:35] <bigfoot1> 218.227.255.151 *               255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp0
[02:35] <bigfoot1> default         218.227.255.151 0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 ppp0
[02:35] <Corical> no uncleandy .. hehe
[02:35] <mindspin> seems ok
[02:35] <uncleandy> corical: reinstall...... or go home and blame someone else....
[02:35] <Tm_T> mbirkis: like --geometry 10x10+80+36 ?
[02:35] <Tm_T> mbirkis: try that one
[02:35] <mbirkis> Tm_T: yes
[02:35] <mbirkis> Tm_T: ok
[02:36] <Tm_T> Kamping_Kaiser o/
[02:36] <Corical> lol uncleandy  !
[02:36] <mindspin> Bigfoot where do your prxy settings in firefox point to?
[02:36] <Corical> i think i'll choose the reinstall option
[02:36] <mindspin> and dont paste it here
[02:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> gday tm_t
[02:36] <mindspin> pleese
[02:36] <uncleandy> Corical: what?? its the african way!! hehehe
[02:36] <Tm_T> mbirkis: better?
[02:37] <Corical> hahahaha
[02:37] <Corical> indeed.
[02:37] <marsh> anyone here use gphoto2?
[02:37] <mbirkis> Tm_T: checking
[02:38] <marsh> I'm trying to get pics off a Cannon EOS300D, but it wont see the pics
[02:38] <uncleandy> hey.... i gotta go....
[02:38] <uncleandy> Corical: good luck..... im off again...
[02:39] <mbirkis> Tm_T: hmm... my whole gnome stopped...
[02:39] <Tm_T> mbirkis: lovely =)
[02:39] <mbirkis> yeah!
[02:40] <bob2> how on earth do you find replies to your posts on the forums?
[02:40] <mbirkis> Tm_T: not better... worse
[02:40] <GNULinuxer> Seveas>
[02:40] <cens0red> can anybody recommend a midi sound font for ubuntu that's low on RAM usage?
[02:40] <Tm_T> mbirkis: yaight, I don't use --geometry myself :p
[02:40] <GNULinuxer> Seveas> we have created a doc for doing gnome development on Ubuntu
[02:40] <GNULinuxer> Seveas> http://live.gnome.org/JhbuildOnUbuntu
[02:40] <mbirkis> Tm_T: probably saves you alot of headache
[02:40] <GNULinuxer> Seveas> can you put it on the topic?
[02:41] <bob2> cens0red: why don't you just install freepats and see which ones are small
[02:41] <bob2> GNULinuxer: that seems a little niche for the topic
[02:41] <bigfoot1> Seveas, just wondering: if our freedom-loving friends in China use anonymous proxies, then they can blog and search without restrictions, right?
[02:41] <GNULinuxer> bob2> yeah ...
[02:41] <bob2> bigfoot1: assuming their traffic isn't intercepted
[02:42] <manson> need help
[02:42] <Tm_T> mbirkis: yeah, I can easily set forcing in such things in KDE
[02:42] <onovy> hi all
[02:42] <manson> hi
[02:42] <manson> i need help
[02:42] <bob2> bigfoot1: if their government is actually trying to repress them, they'll just block access to the proxies entirely
[02:42] <bob2> manson: ask your question
[02:42] <Tm_T> mbirkis: wanna see my desktop?
[02:42] <onovy> yes me too :)
[02:42] <mbirkis> Tm_T: sure
[02:42] <manson> i need a new source.list
[02:42] <manson> for my synaptic
[02:42] <onovy> a wanna translate some parts of Ubuntu to Czech
[02:43] <Tm_T> mbirkis: http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo/foo_051.jpg
[02:43] <onovy> i
[02:43] <cens0red> bob those .pat files are sound fonts?
[02:43] <bob2> manson: why?
[02:43] <manson> but i search and search and there are no sult
[02:43] <bigfoot1> can anybody recommend an anonymous proxy website off the top of his head?
[02:43] <zoddan> Hi, how do i get the Debian menu in the Gnome menu ?
[02:43] <manson> in the moment i use a list there are not my importent programs into
[02:43] <Natja> zoddan, apt-get install menu    (I think)
[02:43] <zoddan> dont that
[02:44] <manson> sorry for my bad english
[02:44] <mbirkis> Tm_T: nice
[02:44] <onovy> i wanna translate some parts of Ubuntu to Czech, who is team leader of translation?
[02:44] <manson> i am german
[02:44] <mbirkis> i wan't the terminal you have on your bottom left
[02:44] <manson> this list is not complete
[02:44] <bigfoot1> okay, never mind. I got the-cloak.com to work. Now I'm just wondering, is there a website I could use to check that I am indeed surfing anonymously?
[02:44] <goliat> hello guys
[02:44] <manson> it the standard list of apt
[02:45] <Tm_T> mbirkis: yaight, modified icon theme, selfmade kicker background and deskop background etc etc
[02:45] <xxtreme_> manson_ be very careful about adding source lists
[02:45] <bob2> bigfoot1: you're not surfing anonymously, tho
[02:45] <manson> i know
[02:45] <Tm_T> mbirkis: yeah, dunno how it's done in Gnome :/
[02:45] <bigfoot1> bob2, what do you mean?
[02:45] <bob2> bigfoot1: anyone between you and the-cloak can detect you who are and what you're doing
[02:45] <bob2> bigfoot1: including your government, isp, etc
[02:45] <mbirkis> Tm_T: it was nice... only thing wrong with it was kde! :)
[02:45] <manson> in mandrake or fc 3 i  have complete the list
[02:45] <bigfoot1> mindspin, bob2 , Seveas. I have good news! www.haloscan.com can work when I'm using a anonymous proxy!
[02:45] <manson> but ubuntu ois debian so can not use this list
[02:45] <bob2> manson: try #ubuntu-de
[02:45] <goliat> when i try to open a song i get make sure your sound is configured
[02:45] <bigfoot1> Does this mean that haloscan _is_ blocking my IP? Why would they do that?
[02:46] <Tm_T> mbirkis: haha
[02:46] <goliat> how can i fix that
[02:46] <bigfoot1> I haven't done anything bad with haloscan, which you may know is a blog-commenting service.
[02:46] <bob2> bigfoot1: "blocking your ip"?
[02:46] <Will__> Just finishing my first ubuntu install. Impressed already. *grin* I'm not sure what else to say, but it's put me in a good mood so far
[02:47] <xxtreme_> will you're on your way!!!!!!!
[02:47] <bigfoot1> If I can view haloscan.com with an anonymous proxy (www.the-cloak.com), and if I can't view haloscan.com directly (without www.the-cloak.com), does this mean that www.haloscan.com is blocking me from accessing their site?
[02:48] <onovy> bigfoot1: maybe :)
[02:48] <manson> so you can not help me , or?+
[02:48] <bob2> bigfoot1: that's one thing it could mean
[02:48] <bob2> bigfoot1: it could also mean your isp sucks, etrc
[02:48] <hyphenated> bigfoot1: more likely they are blocking your user-agent, unless the proxy is forwarding that
[02:48] <bigfoot1> I contacted my isp. they said that www.haloscan.com works with them.
[02:48] <xxtreme_> manson_ did you try #ubuntu-de
[02:49] <mbirkis> Tm_T: what was the system info you had on the desktop?
[02:49] <manson> yes
[02:49] <bigfoot1> hyphenated, blocking my "user-agent"? You mean my browser? If so, I've tried w3m, too.
[02:49] <manson> but i can be in this channel or not
[02:49] <bigfoot1> bob2, i don't get it. how come, if my isp sucks, I can view haloscan.com with an anonymous proxy?
[02:49] <Will__> bigfoot1: Maybe your ISP is having problems with it. I've been there before
[02:50] <cens0red> arggh! midi in ubuntu sucks!
[02:50] <hyphenated> bigfoot1: what errors do you get? timeouts or 404's or what?
[02:50] <bigfoot1> Will__, how can an ISP have problems with a website?
[02:50] <bigfoot1> hyphenated, timeouts.
[02:50] <onovy> bigfoot1: bad route in BGP/OSPF for example
[02:50] <bigfoot1> hyphenated, the error message is something like "can't connect"
[02:51] <bob2> cens0red: how is ubuntu different to any other linux distribution in this regard?
[02:51] <Tm_T> mbirkis: torsmo
[02:51] <onovy> so, can anyone tell me who is leader of localization team?
[02:51] <mbirkis> Tm_T: ok nice... can i use it in gnome to?
[02:51] <bigfoot1> onovy, what's bgp/ospf? and can I change the route ?
[02:51] <onovy> bigfoot1: you can call to your ISP and ask her
[02:52] <Tm_T> mbirkis: well, it's nasty in KDE&Gnome
[02:52] <onovy> bigfoot1: BGP is protocol
[02:52] <Tm_T> mbirkis: so yes, but with hard work :p
[02:52] <mbirkis> Tm_T: but it looks good on your desktop
[02:52] <mbirkis> Tm_T: how hard work?
[02:52] <Tm_T> mbirkis: yeah, and I can't use desktop icons at the same time
[02:52] <Tm_T> mbirkis: dunno with gnome, I've heard it's hard
[02:53] <bigfoot1> onovy, what's ospf?
[02:53] <gahan> ubuntu's 5.04 installer is similar to new debian sarge installer?
[02:54] <onovy> bigfoot1: protocol too :)
[02:54] <gahan> or it's rather familiar with old d-i
[02:54] <bigfoot1> onovy, what do you mean by bad route in  BGP/OSPF
[02:54] <bigfoot1> ?
[02:55] <mindspin> bigfoot did you changed nameserver?
[02:55] <onovy> bigfoot1: forgot about it
[02:55] <Corical> how do i create another users and give it X rights ?
[02:55] <Corical> i mean, to use X
[02:55] <bigfoot1> norm_, mindspin. do you think that may help? shall i try?
[02:55] <mindspin> i would have done
[02:55] <Corical> useradd corical
[02:55] <onovy> Corical: useradd <username> ?
[02:55] <bigfoot1> sorry, I meant, "no, mindspin...."
[02:55] <Corical> well, apparantly it doesnt have X rights
[02:56] <onovy> Corical: maybe some group ....
[02:56] <mbirkis> Tm_T: i got it but it sits on the bottom left... how does one move torsmo?
[02:56] <craig> n00b question (I'm new to Linux/Ubuntu): How do I change my refresh rate from 60hz to anything higher than that? Is there a menu from which to select settings?
[02:56] <Tm_T> mbirkis: edit your ~/.torsmorc
[02:57] <Corical> damnit, no ..
[02:57] <kong0> does anybody know a man page for tar gz setups?
[02:57] <Corical> im reinstalling
[02:57] <Corical> ffs
[02:57] <mindspin> man tar
[02:57] <xxtreme_> craig_ control center
[02:57] <Tm_T> kong0: eh, man page for packages?
[02:57] <mindspin> man gzip
[02:57] <kong0> will do
[02:57] <Tm_T> :)
[02:58] <craig> thank you
[02:58] <xxtreme_> yw
[02:58] <linlin_> Hey I have some questions about ubuntu, partitions, and dual booting.
[02:58] <craig> *groan* -- where's the control center at?
[02:59] <xxtreme_> craig# in the menu
[02:59] <linlin_> I have ubuntu installed, running great, I resized the partition with parted, theres room for ubuntu and win2000 now, Now my question is if i load windows 2000 with ubuntu loaded right now, will it mess up the bootloader?
[02:59] <craig> heh... I'm lookin in all the menu's.
[03:00] <linlin_> And, if it does, how would I go about reloading grub
[03:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> linlin_ yes
[03:00] <Corical> ubuntu reminds me of redhat
[03:00] <xxtreme_> craig = you running gnome or kde
[03:00] <craig> gnome
[03:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> you can find instructions on ubuntuguide.org
[03:00] <Corical> i had awfull days with redhat, hopefully my ubuntu days will be better
[03:00] <linlin_> OK
[03:00] <bigfoot1> i ran "traceroute www.haloscan.com". Does anyone want to see the results?
[03:01] <goliat> I am facing a problem with ubuntu its not recognising my sound driver
[03:01] <Nermal> it probably is
[03:01] <Nermal> maybe try booting with pci=noacpi noapic
[03:01] <Tm_T> mbirkis: got it?
[03:02] <mbirkis> Tm_T: nope.... i have discardet it
[03:02] <mbirkis> Tm_T: it kept dissappearing from the screen
[03:02] <Tm_T> mbirkis: yup, as I said, it's not Gnome compatible :/
[03:03] <linlin_> ah damnit >.<
[03:03] <linlin_> i downloaded a spanish torrent of win2k :-X
[03:03] <Tm_T> mbirkis: try my (old) settings: http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/temp/torsmorc-temp
[03:03] <Tm_T> linlin_: stealer :/
[03:03] <linlin_> lol
[03:03] <Corical> lol linlin
[03:04] <bigfoot1> mindspin, just to answer your previous question: where do your prxy settings in firefox point to?" I have no proxies at the moment. I have a direct connection. 8-)
[03:04] <Corical> nice ...
[03:04] <Corical> espanol
[03:04] <mindspin> ok
[03:04] <linlin_> serves me right i suppose...
[03:04] <bigfoot1> mindspin, i'm still trying to find out how to edit my resolv.conf file.
[03:04] <bigfoot1> please wait.
[03:04] <mindspin> sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf
[03:04] <mindspin> or sudo gedit
[03:04] <mindspin> or sudo mc
[03:04] <Tm_T> mbirkis: I'm off, if you have any questions, /msg me
[03:05] <goliat> guys can someone help me setup my sound
[03:05] <craig> Ok, I found a scrn resolution prefs window under the system/prefs pull-down menu but the only choice is 60hz (crappy refresh rate). Using a 6800 GT/OC nVidia card. Trying to adjust to a higher refresh rate.... any easy way to do that?
[03:06] <bigfoot1> i did traceroute www.haloscan.com. No problem. Then i ran wget www.haloscan.com, but it's still going.
[03:06] <linlin_> hehe...watching windows 2000 install in spanish is kinda funny
[03:07] <Will__> I may just have spilled eczema cream on my install CD.
[03:07] <mjr> craig, your monitor apparently fails to communicate its capabilities to the X server (perhaps it's old), and the setup is too conservative. Do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and input correct vertical and horizontal refresh rate ranges
[03:08] <bigfoot1> i opened up Text Editor, then opened up resolv.conf. How come it's read-only? How can I change it to write-allowed?
[03:08] <Corical> goliat. whats wong wiff ur sound ?
[03:08] <craig> I have a ViewSonic Ultrabrite A70f+ monitor
[03:08] <Corical> what card do u have ?
[03:08] <craig> nvidia 6800 GT/OC
[03:09] <mbirkis> how do i add places to the places thing in gnome?
[03:09] <Safari_Al> mbirkis, in the file selector (file->open or file->save) for any application, create some bookmarks and they will go into your places menu.
[03:09] <mbirkis> Safari_Al: thnx
[03:10] <goliat> please check that your soundcard is configured properly you have correct output plugin selected no other program is blocking the soundcard
[03:10] <bigfoot1> how can i edit resolv.conf
[03:10] <goliat> I get this when i start xmms
[03:10] <goliat> Corical
[03:10] <craig> I'll try to edit the /etc/x11/xorg.conf file for the refresh rates and see if that works
[03:10] <Safari_Al> bigfoot1, `sudoedit /etc/resolv.conf`
[03:10] <craig> Thanks guys... cya
[03:11] <bigfoot1> Safari_Al, thanks. Is there no way to avoid the console/terminal?
[03:11] <Corical> ok goliat , so do you have the right output selected ?
[03:11] <goliat> to get to see if there is another prog using the sound lsof | grep "what should i put here to see the soundcard "
[03:11] <goliat> i dont know
[03:11] <goliat> how can i know that
[03:11] <bigfoot1> how can i edit the resolv.conf in TExt Editor?
[03:12] <Safari_Al> bigfoot1, sure.  use the DNS tab in the network setting tool
[03:12] <Safari_Al> bigfoot1, `gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf` will let you do it in the gui text editor
[03:12] <bigfoot1> Safari_Al, thank you for both ways!
[03:12] <Safari_Al> bigfoot1, no problems.  good luck.
[03:13] <andy__> hey hello all
[03:13] <goliat> Corical,  I tryed alsamixer it says alsamixer
[03:13] <goliat> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[03:13] <andy__> i made it this far god i ampressed
[03:13] <andy__> ineed some help please some 1 help me
[03:13] <Corical> hmm
[03:13] <andy__> any 1 free?
[03:13] <bigfoot1> mindspin, do i have to remove the first DNS, or can i just add what you told me (194.25.2.29)?
[03:14] <andy__> :(
[03:14] <Corical> what card do u have , for starters ?
[03:14] <Will__> andy__: Just ask the question, somebody might know
[03:14] <mindspin> you can place a # before it
[03:14] <xxtreme_> Ctrl+A, C
[03:14] <andy__> ok i have just installed ubunto n what used to be a windows media center Pc
[03:14] <mindspin> and put the 194.25.2.29 to the first line
[03:14] <andy__> my sound card isnt working although it is listed in the device manger
[03:15] <andy__> and i think my tv card is installed but not sure
[03:15] <bigfoot1> okay.
[03:15] <andy__> any help me check please
[03:15] <Furic> I have apache2 installed in hoary, all is well, except now i attempt using mod_rewrite from a htaccess, just turning the engine on, even without any rules will cause a "500 Internal Server Error", is there something i need to install that i overlooked, or something in the configuration files that needs altering to fix this?
[03:15] <bigfoot1> mindspin, so you mean I can't use System-->NetworkingTools-->DNS Tab?
[03:15] <Furic> or should i be asking #apache?
[03:16] <mindspin> yep, although for I am on kde, i prefer the commandline
[03:16] <andy__> any 1 here help me with sound card problem please
[03:17] <Furic> andy__: see in the topic where it says "Have a question? Just ask!" - ask your question, if nobody replies then you are out of luck.
[03:18] <Will__> Furic: It's more likely to be an apache problem, they'd possibly know more about it
[03:18] <Furic> ok.
[03:18] <mbirkis> how can i fix my lm sensors to show temp and cpu speed?
[03:18] <andy__> ok here is my question i think my sound card is intalled but i have no sound what could be the problem
[03:19] <bigfoot1> mindspin, should i put a # on both of the original nameservers, or only the first?
[03:19] <mindspin> mbirkis its not an older thinkpad?
[03:19] <Furic> andy__: that is not nearly enough information, you could start with what kind of computer you have, and maybe the model of sound card, and version of ubuntu.
[03:19] <webboss> Hi All - just spotted some strangeness - I have a second disk which is mounted off /home/staff   at boot it mounts fine (fstab is correct) but once I login and logout again it is unmounted. Tracked this down to the gnome-volume-manager... seems to be treating as a removeable device?? any suggestions (warty - latest updates)
[03:19] <mindspin> bigfoot uncomment both, just for testing, if the first ip succeeds, the others will not be asked
[03:19] <mbirkis> mindspin: abit kv8max3 with amd64 3000+
[03:20] <mindspin> ok i remember something about lm sensors damaging older thinkpads
[03:20] <andy__> my computer is a Athlon xp 2600 sound card is a sound blaster audigy LS and am running the latest version of ubuntu with all the updates but i still have no sound
[03:20] <bigfoot1> uncomment means putting #, right?
[03:21] <mindspin> right
[03:21] <|stefan|> hmm .. doesn't the package fglrx exist ?
[03:21] <gek> good morning ubuntuurs
[03:21] <bigfoot1> mindspin, okay done. Now do i have to do anything, like restart computer, or restart firefox?
[03:21] <mbirkis> mindspin: ok
[03:21] <andy__> moening gek
[03:21] <andy__> morning even lol
[03:21] <mindspin> restart the network
[03:22] <bigfoot1> good evening gek. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good night, good day ubuntuers 8-)
[03:22] <bigfoot1> mindspin, how do i restart the network?
[03:22] <bigfoot1> I'm on only one pc., by the way.
[03:22] <mindspin> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:23] <bigfoot1> mindspin, okay done.
[03:23] <mindspin> restart the network means stop and start your networkcard
[03:23] <mindspin> have a try
[03:23] <bigfoot1> now i should try out the problem website, right?
[03:23] <mindspin> yep
[03:23] <bigfoot1> no need to restart firefox, right?
[03:23] <mindspin> clear cache maybe
[03:23] <mindspin> or restatt ff
[03:23] <mindspin> restart
[03:24] <andy__> can some one help me please i have the latest version of ubuntu and a sound blaster audigy ls that is listed in the device manager but i have no sound
[03:24] <Will__> It doesn't really look like a dns problem
[03:26] <andy__> can some one help me please i have the latest version of ubuntu and a sound blaster audigy ls that is listed in the device manager but i have no sound
[03:26] <bigfoot1> mindspin, i restrated firefox, cleared the cache. Now even google.com won't load.
[03:26] <Will__> andy__: I think if you keep repeating the question, you may just annoy people. Perhaps try later?
[03:27] <bigfoot1> Will__,  you talking about my problem?
[03:27] <stoopidlin> what is the top linux app to replicate things like musicmatch jukebox or itunes?
[03:27] <Will__> bigfoot1: I'm fairly sure it is not DNS related
[03:27] <mindspin> can you post /etc/resolv.conf somewhere
[03:27] <mindspin> it was just to sort out wether it is
[03:28] <bigfoot1> is there a quick command to printout contents  of the resolv.conf file?
[03:28] <Will__> mindspin: If he can traceroute to it, then it probably is not dns
[03:28] <mindspin> you also can undo the changes in /etc/resolv.conf
[03:28] <mindspin> Will thats right
[03:28] <bigfoot1> Will__, mindspin if it's not DNS-related, then what could the problem be?
[03:30] <mindspin> should be your isp would be my first guess
[03:30] <thomerz> hi, is there a tool to configure dual head on hoary?
[03:37] <gm78> Hey all
[03:37] <slipjig> Hi.  I've installed and set up NIS as a client on my Laptop.  I had the help of a Mandriva-using friend.  But now my machine won't shutdown cleanly.  It gets much of the way through the shutdown routine, but then hangs on the message "deconfiguring network interfaces...".  It makes no difference if the network cable is in or disconnected.
[03:37] <slipjig> Oops... meant to say: can anyone offer any advice?
[03:38] <gm78> slipjig : have you tried disabling nis to see if it still does it?
[03:39] <aurax_> hello
[03:39] <aurax_> i have a tiny question, i am trying to add new stuff to profile like :
[03:39] <aurax_> JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java
[03:40] <aurax_> should i add it to /etc/profile ?
[03:40] <aurax_> becuase when i add it nothing happends
[03:40] <aurax_> applications still can't find java .
[03:40] <dalbirdy> can anyone tell me how to allow root login on kde?
[03:40] <slipjig> gm78: I'm not sure how to cleanly do that.  Making /etc/init.d/nis UNexecutable seems to cause other problems.  I've also tried moving softlinks out of /etc/rc*.d/ but again with more problem.  Can you suggest a good way to disable it?
[03:40] <gm78> slipjig : no clue, sorry man
[03:41] <aurax_> anyone ?
[03:41] <aurax_> please..
[03:41] <bigfoot1> i used the-cloak.com a few minutes ago. now it's saying i have to wait 6 hours before i can use it again. any other websites similar?
[03:41] <gm78> aurax_ : undo all the changes youve done so far...you want to add java to your path and thats it
[03:41] <whoiam> someone please tell me, from where to change access properties for webmin ?
[03:41] <gm78> aurax_ : just answered you
[03:41] <aurax_> hmm
[03:41] <aurax_> should i add it to /etc/profile ?
[03:41] <gm78> aurax_ : after doing that, add this line to your ~/.bashrc file
[03:42] <whoiam> it telling me that I'm not allowed to view this page
[03:42] <Will__> Now it seems to freeze on xlib, gosh
[03:42] <gm78> aurax_ : export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/bin/folder/inside/jre/main/folder
[03:42] <slipjig> gm78: OK.  I'll have another couple of gos (with attitude) and get back :)
[03:42] <reka> hmm, does gnomebaker have dvd copy support?  the button is labelled "Copy Data CD".
[03:42] <aurax_> oh
[03:42] <gm78> aurax_ : nope, only do what i just said
[03:42] <aurax_> gm78, can you take a look at this guide :
[03:42] <aurax_> http://ox.dipdns.org/debian-sarge-3_1_apache2.html
[03:42] <gm78> reka : what kind of dvds?
[03:42] <aurax_> it for debian sarge.
[03:43] <bob2> andy__: try asking on the ubuntu-user list
[03:43] <aurax_> can you also tell me whats the differences and why it aint working on ubuntu
[03:43] <aurax_> ?
[03:43] <reka> gm78: data: music etc.
[03:43] <aurax_> search in the text for JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java
[03:43] <gm78> reka : i believe it does, as long as it isnt an encrypted video dvd or anything like that
[03:43] <reka> gm78: or did you mean format? dvd-r
[03:44] <reka> gm78: ah, ok, cheers
[03:44] <andy__> i have probably a really simple problm with my soundblaster audigy running under ubuntu can some one helpplease
[03:44] <gm78> aurax_ : I'm sorry, i cant help you if you wont listen. i already said, you dont need to set java_home, only add java to your path like i said how to do. it is the way Sun recommends installing it
[03:44] <aurax_> really
[03:44] <aurax_> ok
[03:44] <aurax_> will do it
[03:44] <gm78> aurax_ : sorry if that appeared rude
[03:45] <reka> andy__: don't ask to ask. :-)
[03:46] <aurax_> okok
[03:46] <aurax_> gotcha !
[03:46] <reka> andy__: we can't help you unless you tell us your problem.
[03:47] <andy__> there is no out put listed from the card although it is listed in the device manager
[03:47] <andy__> sorry refrase there is no sound output from the card
[03:47] <aurax_> gm78,
[03:47] <aurax_> why do i get configure: error: no acceptable java compiler found - please install at least the Java(TM) 2 SDK.
[03:47] <aurax_>  ?
[03:47] <aurax_> after adding it
[03:48] <reka> andy__: do you get any sound at all?
[03:48] <andy__> no no sound at all
[03:48] <mindspin> rka he has no sound
[03:48] <mindspin> ic
[03:50] <andy__> any ideas?
[03:50] <blueninja> hi. i just installed ubuntu and it doesnt seem to detect my modem (D-link DU-562M ext usb). tried using wvdial, but failed... any suggestions? thanks!
[03:50] <dim_witted_kid> hihihi
[03:50] <dim_witted_kid> i'm having probs with my browser
[03:51] <dim_witted_kid> ff would stop functioning after a few minutes
[03:51] <chaitat> hello world
[03:51] <dim_witted_kid> but my gaim still works... it's as if my internet connection was stopped
[03:51] <reka> andy__: well, you could start with this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567&highlight=sound
[03:51] <dalbirdy> can you tell me how to upgrade openoffice to 2.o beta?
[03:52] <slipjig> OK.  I've done "/etc/init.d/nis stop".  But shutdown still hangs with "deconfiguring network interfaces...".  Any other ideas?
[03:52] <andy__> thanks
[03:52] <chaitat> how can i set my xterm (or shell) to treat 'alt' as 'alt' in emacs?
[03:53] <reka> dalbirdy: you can install the oo2 package seperately.  it won't uninstall the old one though iirc.
[03:53] <reka> chaitat: what does alt in emacs do? :-)
[03:54] <chaitat> reka, like in ordiany bash shell, when you 'alt-f' then the cursor will move one word
[03:54] <chaitat> distance
[03:54] <reka> dim_witted_kid: so it's unresponsive all the time? even if you restart it?
[03:54] <shawarma> slipjig: Try sudo fuser /etc/network/ifstate
[03:54] <chaitat> reka, 'alt-b' move backward for one word long
[03:55] <shawarma> slipjig: What does that give you?
[03:55] <jmazaredo> rsync -rtuv /home /mnt/server2/D/backup is this correct?
[03:56] <chaitat> reka, 'alt+d' to delete a word in bash shell
[03:56] <reka> chaitat: hmm, i'm not certain, but maybe something to do with editing .bashrc
[03:56] <chaitat> reka, currently when i 'alt+a' the shell just show me a-with a hat
[03:56] <reka> and setting up aliases
[03:56] <chaitat> reka, i dont think so...
[03:57] <reka> chaitat: dunno then :-/
[03:57] <nalioth> reka: you in here causing trouble?
[03:57] <chaitat> reka, nevermind  friend :D
[03:57] <reka> nalioth: doing my best. :-)
[03:57] <reka> \o/
[03:58] <aurax_> can someone help me with /etc/profile issue ?
[03:59] <aurax_> i've installed j2sdk and application im trying to install can't find it
[03:59] <dalbirdy> can someone tell me the command to upgrade a deb package?
[04:00] <chaitat> dalbirdy, apt-get update <package-name>
[04:00] <slipjig> shawarma: (sorry, was web browsing) I tried sudo fuser /etc/network/ifstate but it returned nothing at all - just a new prompt...
[04:00] <aurax_> can anyone have a look @ http://ox.dipdns.org/debian-sarge-3_1_apache2.html refer to section 7 and tell me how should i deploy it in ubuntu ?
[04:00] <x4m> Bonjour tout le monde :)
[04:00] <dalbirdy> so if i already have the file downloaded in a tar file and i use alien to convert it to deb how would i use apt-get
[04:00] <shawarma> slipjig: Ok, that's not it then.
[04:01] <linlin_>  Hi, I was installing some stuff using apt, and i messed up most of
[04:01] <linlin_>           the configuration files for the porgram i was messing with.  I did
[04:01] <linlin_>           apt-get remove <app> then tried to install it again but hte files
[04:01] <linlin_>           are still gone.  How do i tell apt-get to get everything it did the
[04:01] <linlin_>           first time?
[04:01] <linlin_> o crap
[04:01] <linlin_> sorry for that
[04:02] <linlin_> bad paste :(
[04:02] <shawarma> slipjig: Can you bring down each interface one at a time?
[04:02] <shawarma> slipjig: See in /etc/network/ifstate for a list of interfaces ifupdown thinks are up and running.
[04:03] <reka> dalbirdy: if you're installing from a local file you can use dpkg -i <file.deb> to install.  it's better to use apt-get to install stuff though. e.g. apt-get install <program>
[04:04] <reka> apt-get/aptitute takes care of dependencies, dpkg -i doesn't
[04:04] <dalbirdy> so i could use apt-get install /home/<package name>?
[04:04] <justin> linlin_: easiest thing to do in that case is purge it and reinstall it
[04:04] <aurax_> can any one help me ?
[04:04] <reka> dalbirdy: no, apt-get uses the online repositories.  you use dpkg -i to install a file located on your computer
[04:04] <aurax_> it say's in the guide :
[04:04] <aurax_> 7. Modify the /etc/profile file:
[04:04] <aurax_> vi /etc/profile
[04:04] <aurax_> JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java
[04:04] <aurax_> CATALINA_HOME=/usr/local/tomcat
[04:04] <aurax_> ANT_HOME=/usr/local/ant
[04:04] <linlin_> wahts the syntax to purge justin ?
[04:04] <aurax_> OX_HOME=/usr/local/openxchange
[04:04] <slipjig> shawarma: re "Can you bring down each interface one at a time?" I don't know how to do that...?
[04:04] <aurax_> TOMCAT_HOME=$CATALINA_HOME
[04:05] <aurax_> PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin:$CATALINA_HOME/bin:$ANT_HOME/bin:$OX_HOME/bin:$OX_HOME/sbin
[04:05] <aurax_> export PATH JAVA_HOME CATALINA_HOME ANT_HOME OX_HOME TOMCAT_HOME
[04:05] <dalbirdy> ok that is what i thought
[04:05] <aurax_> to make j2sdk work .
[04:05] <aurax_> ... but it gives me java sdk 2 not installed
[04:05] <reka> dalbirdy: i stress again that it's better to use the repositories if the program is already in there rather than downloading and installing using dpkg
[04:05] <reka> aurax_: pastebin please...
[04:06] <dalbirdy> i want to install open office 2.0....but i cant find it.....in the repositorys?
[04:06] <slipjig> shawarma: I "cat"ed /etc/network/ifstate and got eth0=eth0 and lo=lo
[04:06] <dalbirdy> if i use update manager it says my system is already uptodate
[04:06] <aurax_> k reka, but still can anyone help me
[04:07] <youngcoder> i just ran GNOME BitTorrent for the first time and it asked me to select location for meta files... anyone know what to do?
[04:07] <nalioth> aurax_: was that the ubuntuguide?
[04:07] <lamer1> I'm having problem configurin USB net on my ubuntu machine. I've loaded usbnet module but I can't fetch usb0, is there any extra module I should load ...?
[04:07] <aurax_> noe
[04:07] <aurax_> nope
[04:08] <justin> youngcoder: do you know what BitTorrent does?
[04:08] <nalioth> aurax_: well good, cuz that ubuntuguide is quite humorous (for the one who wrote it)
[04:08] <reka> dalbirdy: the package is called openoffice.org2
[04:08] <aurax_> hehe
[04:08] <aurax_> no it wasnt
[04:08] <youngcoder> downloader fr bittorrent files
[04:08] <aurax_> http://ox.dipdns.org/debian-sarge-3_1_apache2.html
[04:08] <aurax_> this is the source.
[04:09] <aurax_> nalioth, can you refer to section 7 and help me ?
[04:09] <reka> dalbirdy: like i said, it installs seperately ... it's seperate from the oo already installed iirc
[04:09] <aurax_> this is so basic and i cant find a solution
[04:09] <justin> youngcoder: so why are you surprised when it asks you to pick a bittorrent file?
[04:09] <morgajelWork> silly question time...
[04:09] <morgajelWork> kubuntu-5.04-live-powerpc.iso    <--should a mac mini be able to boot from that?
[04:10] <youngcoder> it is asking me for THE meta file on my system
[04:10] <nalioth> aurax_: where is section 7?
[04:10] <aurax_> nalioth, search for 7.
[04:10] <justin> youngcoder: so?
[04:10] <nalioth> morgajelWork: according to the title, it should
[04:10] <aurax_> you will see JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java
[04:10] <nalioth> aurax_: i just woke up and got here
[04:10] <dalbirdy> reka so what you are saying is that i screwed up by installing the oo package?
[04:10] <nalioth> aurax_: section 7 of WHAT?
[04:10] <aurax_> heeh its ok
[04:11] <aurax_> of http://ox.dipdns.org/debian-sarge-3_1_apache2.html
[04:11] <aurax_> of this one
[04:11] <youngcoder> ok im a linux noob and i havent downloaded ay bittorrent files yet
[04:11] <reka> dalbirdy: which package might that be?
[04:11] <andy__> Hi all i have no sound from my sound card i am running ubuntu 5.04 and have a sound blaster audigy Ls any suggestions
[04:11] <nalioth> aurax_: you are after java skd? why are you in an apache readme?
[04:11] <morgajelWork> nalioth: stupid thing isn't working- at first I thought it was the rw, but after burning it to an R it didn't work either. the regular ubuntu liceCd for ppc did however
[04:11] <aurax_> its not apache readme
[04:11] <dalbirdy> the package i downloaded from openoffice.orgs web site and turned it into a deb package using alien?
[04:11] <aurax_> its installation guide for open-xchange
[04:12] <justin> youngcoder: what does being a "linux noob" have to do with anything?
[04:12] <aurax_> on debian-sarge
[04:12] <nalioth> morgajelWork: perhaps you burnt it too fast (i'm not familiar with kubuntu live cds)
[04:12] <aurax_> but part of the installation is javasdk and some other manual modification have to be made to make the system 100% functional
[04:12] <nalioth> aurax_: well, debian and ubuntu don't get along in some ways
[04:12] <aurax_> problem is, while i was trying to deploy it to ubuntu which is not miles away from debian i got some errors.
[04:12] <bersace> hello
[04:12] <andy__> is there a cnfiguration tool for sound cards under ubuntu
[04:12] <benJIman> lo all
[04:12] <aurax_> yes i know
[04:12] <aurax_> but here is easy
[04:12] <bersace> hello
[04:12] <benJIman> anyone know if there's a howto anywhere for extracting the livecd to hard disk for modifying?
[04:12] <reka> dalbirdy: link?
[04:12] <nalioth> aurax_: have you been to the ubuntu wiki?
[04:12] <youngcoder> justin, lol you are answering my questions with questions
[04:12] <aurax_> just have to figure out what's wrong .
[04:12] <Thazza> Hey anyone know how to change the font color of the menu bar in Hoary?
[04:12] <aurax_> no
[04:13] <reka> andy__: that thread didn't help?
[04:13] <nalioth> aurax_: there is a few things on java there
[04:13] <andy__> no reka but thanks any way did what it said still no go with sound
[04:14] <aurax_> bah thats a bit lame
[04:14] <demantik> Installed K3B..and the text size is too large..how can i make it smaller? i dont think its an option within the program....im using xfce & gnome...dont have kde installed.
[04:14] <aurax_> how do i add the new ENV's and PATH in ubuntu ?
[04:14] <aurax_> where should i go to add it properly.
[04:14] <dalbirdy> reka i had downloaded there latest nightly build
[04:14] <nalioth> aurax_: in your .bashrc
[04:14] <aurax_> in /home/user...?
[04:14] <|stefan|> hmm. i can't get vlc to work with the soundsystem in ubuntu. anyone gotten this to work ?
[04:15] <nalioth> aurax_: /home/aurax/.bashrc
[04:15] <aurax_> thanks
[04:15] <Tene> ... I did something really stupid, and screwe up my system pretty bad.
[04:15] <aurax_> and for root?
[04:15] <aurax_> in /root/.bashrc
[04:15] <aurax_> ?
[04:15] <ThE__OnE> hoe do i install java for firefox?
[04:15] <ThE__OnE> how
[04:15] <nalioth> aurax_: /etc/profile/bashrc i believe (everyone concur?)
[04:15] <reka> dalbirdy: most likely it'll be ok... you just installed it in a different way.  does it work?
[04:15] <aurax_> ok
[04:15] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: watch ubotu
[04:15] <nalioth> !Java
[04:15] <aurax_> nalioth, but the how-to says to add it to profile
[04:16] <goldfish_> nalioth: yeah.
[04:16] <ubotu> java is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[04:16] <ThE__OnE> !Java
[04:16] <Tene> I was screwing around and set my repositories to breezy, as the topic indicates I shouldn't do.
[04:16] <Tene> and ran a dist-upgrade.
[04:16] <Tene> :E
[04:16] <dalbirdy> nope it didnt show up in my programs list....i am tring to instsll it with apt-get now
[04:16] <nalioth> aurax_: not sure of where the root bashrc is
[04:16] <dalbirdy> is there a command to run to get it to run?
[04:16] <bersace> On breezy, i can't upgrade xlibs-data and libx11-6. /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb seems to change package (from libx11-6 to xlibs-data). When i upgrade xlibs-data, it refuse because xkb still belong to libx11. So i can't upgrade. How to force upgrade ?
[04:17] <gm78> aurax_ : did java work when u did it with ur user bashrc?
[04:17] <reka> dalbirdy: /usr/bin/openoffice maybe?
[04:17] <andy__> think i am going to go to freedora or summit never had a problem with drivers on that
[04:18] <reka> dalbirdy: typing oowriter might be more useful
[04:18] <dalbirdy> openoffice 1.1.3 still starts
[04:18] <Thazza> Hey anyone know how to change the font color of the menu bar in Hoary?
[04:18] <dalbirdy> openoffice 1.1.3 still starts
[04:18] <Thazza> Running Gnome?
[04:18] <aurax_> dont think so gm78
[04:18] <aurax_> i tried bash.bashrc in /etc
[04:19] <aurax_> but didnt worked
[04:19] <gm78> well query me and post your entire .bashrc for your own personal user account
[04:21] <coolkev> i just had my linux act extremely weird on me... number 1 it slowed down alot... I checked in the system monitor, and i see like 50+ Gaim open and i closed gaim along time ago.. I had to kill all those processes and then now realplay and xine are not working
[04:21] <coolkev> xine crashes as soon as i open it, and realplay the g.u.i doesn't even show up
[04:23] <lamer1> can someone help me regardin usbnet ?
[04:23] <coolkev> same with totem it's frozen
[04:23] <coolkev> it's like something just really messed up Ubuntu
[04:25] <jbroome> nothing i love more than auto-away messages
[04:28] <Micksa> can anyone here play a DVD with sound using mplayer?
[04:28] <synd> Micksa, use totem-xine
[04:29] <Micksa> totem doesn't encode :P
[04:29] <lamer1> I'm having problem with usbnet can someone help me ???
[04:29] <synd> you didnt ask about encoding, you asked about playing
[04:29] <Micksa> they sorta go hand in hand, at least with this problem
[04:30] <Micksa> I can't do either so I'm guessing if I fix one I'll fix the other
[04:31] <synd> Micksa, well for playback, totem-xine is regarded the best. or xine-ui
[04:32] <nalioth> battlecat: mornin
[04:32] <battlecat> Hi there nalioth
[04:32] <black-whisp> hmm anyone have any suggestions on how im going to get my mysql database working.. :S on distrowatch it says mysql follows ubuntu.. but how do i activate it and make a user???
[04:33] <bob2> you'd start by installing the mysql-server package
[04:33] <battlecat> I have Verizon DSL service and they use a Westell Wirespeed modem. I am unable to connet using the Ethernet jack with this modem. Now I was able to connect yesterday but not today. Right now I am at a windows machine which has had no issues connecting wiht it. Any ideas?
[04:34] <quitte> hmm. the warty live cd always fails on my thinkpad 600x
[04:34] <nalioth> battlecat: you have been connecting up to today, (with linux) right?
[04:34] <battlecat> nope
[04:34] <battlecat> I had to go to the windows machine
[04:34] <battlecat> in teh other room
[04:35] <nalioth> battlecat: so you connected for the first and only time (with ubuntu) yesterday?
[04:36] <black-whisp> bob2: i've installed that now..:S but as far as i know i have to make a "user" for mysql..
[04:37] <bob2> black-whisp: no, you don't
[04:37] <black-whisp> bob2: hmm...
[04:37] <pestilence> sometimes when i boot my computer, acpi doesn't seem to cool it properly...it will get extremely hot and the fan won't turn on.  when i do a `cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature` it shows the temperature as above 80C.  oddly, when i execute this cat the computer realizes it's too hot and starts the fan.  is there any fix for this?
[04:37] <bob2> black-whisp: mysql is setup and running as it's own user already
[04:37] <battlecat> No Nalioth I was connect for a few days
[04:37] <bob2> black-whisp: a root mysql user has been created with a default password
[04:37] <bob2> etc
[04:38] <battlecat> nalioth then I wen to connect this morning and nothing
[04:38] <bob2> it's ready for you to do work on
[04:38] <black-whisp> bob2: okay.. what?
[04:38] <nalioth> battlecat: so what (if anthing) has changed in the ubuntu box?
[04:38] <bob2> black-whisp: so, now you do whatever you normally do with a mysql server.
[04:38] <battlecat> nalioth not a thing at all
[04:38] <Micksa> bob2: do you get paid to be here?
[04:38] <bob2> Micksa: no
[04:38] <bob2> I'm waiting for something to restart
[04:39] <justin> pestilence: 80 degrees Celsius = 176 degrees Fahrenheit... I doubt your laptop is that hot
[04:39] <black-whisp> bob2: hmm.. im about to start reading about mysql / php.. but when i try to login with phpmyadmin it doesn''t accept blank fields, so how do i login?
[04:39] <nalioth> battlecat: have you hard restarted your dsl modem and router and whatever else in inline to your box?
[04:39] <pestilence> justin: you haven't put your hand on my laptop
[04:39] <bob2> black-whisp: oh, yu've never used mysql before?
[04:39] <pestilence> it's too hot to touch
[04:39] <Micksa> that'd slowly fry the family jewels
[04:39] <nalioth> Micksa: bob2 is paid with love and adoration of his fans
[04:39] <battlecat> Nalioth: I have removed power from the DSL modem just as I would for a WindowsXP restart.
[04:39] <pestilence> it's not on my lap
[04:39] <Micksa> heh
[04:39] <bob2> black-whisp: /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian should tell you the default password
[04:39] <bob2> nalioth: I get more flames and abuse than adorations
[04:39] <black-whisp> bob2: okay.. thx.
[04:39] <bob2> s/s$//
[04:40] <battlecat> Nalioth: When I start up Ubuntu and then GNOME it informs me that it could not connect and would I like to RETRY or IGNORE this.
[04:40] <nalioth> bob2: what do they call that thing that takes heat and turns it into power?
[04:40] <pestilence> i would guess that when it gets that hot it is on the borderline of causing damage
[04:40] <bob2> nalioth: peltier device
[04:41] <justin> battlecat: it?
[04:41] <nalioth> battlecat: there's no pppoe or any other funny stuff in use, is there?
[04:41] <ThE__OnE> when i try to install java (sun-j2sdk1.5) it says that "Your about to install a software that can't be authenticated. Doing so will allow malicious individual to damage and take control of your system." What should i do?
[04:41] <battlecat> Nalioth: Unfortunatly no.
[04:41] <battlecat> Nalioth: Ive run through all of the settings I can find.
[04:41] <nalioth> battlecat: do you have a ubuntu liveCD?
[04:42] <nalioth> battlecat: or a knoppix?
[04:42] <battlecat> Nalioth: No I gave them all away lol.
[04:42] <nalioth> battlecat: i'd suggest a liveCD, to see if the settings somehow got munched on your installation
[04:42] <battlecat> Nalioth: I've backed up my data and I think I will try a fresh reinstall of the system. But this time I will Daul boot it.
[04:42] <nalioth> battlecat: dual boot with osx-intel?
[04:43] <nalioth> battlecat: dual boot with openbsd?
[04:43] <battlecat> Nalioth: WinXP and Ubuntu.
[04:43] <battlecat> WinXP has no issues with detecting on the fly this modem
[04:43] <nalioth> battlecat: ewwww
[04:43] <ThE__OnE> anyone help?
[04:43] <reka> ThE__OnE: it's a warning.  how you treat it is up to you.
[04:43] <ThE__OnE> i know its a warning
[04:44] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: you must answer your own question
[04:44] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: its just a 'windows style' warning
[04:44] <ThE__OnE> oh ok
[04:44] <ThE__OnE> because other software i install never said that
[04:44] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: did you cut and paste the actual warning in here?
[04:44] <reka> ThE__OnE: really? pretty much everything i apt-get tells me it's not authenticated.
[04:44] <battlecat> Nalioth: LOL Well its my only option I have really. Now here is a big question for you. I have a 20 gig HD and I will divide it up between the two. Now I would like to be able to save and access the same files from both OSes. How can I do that?
[04:45] <ThE__OnE> how could i cut and paste?
[04:45] <ThE__OnE> lol, i typed it here
[04:45] <nalioth> battlecat: easy, install XP first using fat32 FS on 15gb
[04:45] <nalioth> battlecat: use the 5gb for swap and ubuntu
[04:45] <nalioth> battlecat: then whip your fstab into automounting your fat32 part
[04:46] <pestilence> so since i did the `cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature`, the fan has not shut off.
[04:46] <pestilence> this is annoying
[04:46] <battlecat> Nalioth: Is that all Ubuntu needs even when I install progs like Blender and Such?
[04:46] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: cuz i've never seen a warning that flat out said "malicious peeps can take over with this soft"
[04:46] <ThE__OnE> do you have java installed?
[04:46] <pestilence> oh.  just shut off.  now it reads 32 C
[04:47] <pestilence> it shut off because i read that file again
[04:47] <nalioth> battlecat: you can use the fat32 for /home/storage
[04:47] <ThE__OnE> and why would i have to lie about Ubuntu in a Ubuntu help channel?
[04:47] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: i've just never seen a warning like that
[04:47] <ThE__OnE> well i never did either, thats why i asked here
[04:48] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: where did you get that file?
[04:48] <battlecat> Nalioth: Ok I will be gone for the afternoon now. LOL I have allot of reinstallation to do.
[04:49] <reka> nalioth: i've always gone for ntfs ... you can actually choose fat32?  and iirc there's a size limit on the drive using fat32 FS isn't there?
[04:49] <battlecat> Nalioth: One more thing is XFce really that much less of a resource hog than GNOME or KDE?
[04:50] <nalioth> reka: yes, it's in the terabyte range
[04:50] <nalioth> battlecat: xfce uses less than gnome or kde
[04:50] <nalioth> battlecat: you might also try enlightenment
[04:51] <battlecat> Nalioth: I want a full desktop I don't like the featureless and simple window managers like blackbox.
[04:51] <MidnightDevil> heya
[04:51] <nalioth> battlecat: enlightenment is just as full as xfce
[04:51] <battlecat> oh is it?
[04:51] <ThE__OnE> nalioth, someone here told me to type "!Java" in here and the bot gave me a link and i added the addresses in that website to the sources
[04:51] <MidnightDevil> im trying to setup webmin but when i try to access the website ip:port it returns a
[04:52] <MidnightDevil>                  "You are not authorized to view this page"
[04:54] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: which method did you choose?
[04:54] <pestilence> ok, it appears that polling was disabled (as seen in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/polling_frequency)
[04:55] <ThE__OnE> the 1st method
[04:55] <pestilence> echo 30 > /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/polling_frequency fixed it
[04:56] <sproingie> MidnightDevil: you need to edit the config file that webmin creates
[04:56] <Dj_AlTeK> hey every1
[04:56] <sproingie> MidnightDevil: the access stuff is like right at the top.  by default it locks out everyone
[04:57] <MidnightDevil> sproingie:  miniserfv.conf right?
[04:57] <MidnightDevil> miniserv*
[04:57] <sproingie> MidnightDevil: yah that's it.  been a loooong time since i've used webmin
[04:57] <black-whisp> bob2: thanks. ;)
[04:58] <sproingie> tho i'm sure RHEL has its own remote control panel thing
[04:58] <sproingie> hell if i know what it is tho
[04:59] <ubuntu_> l
[04:59] <ThE__OnE> hmm, i installed the java as it said in the website, but my firefox  still wont open java files
[05:00] <MidnightDevil> spo0nman:  what line should i look for exacly ?
[05:00] <ivanox> where do I configure which resolution is being used at the loginscreen ?
[05:00] <ThE__OnE> can someone help?
[05:00] <ThE__OnE> so i need to reboot?
[05:01] <Will__> Quick question: My initial installation froze, and I had to hard-reboot. Is there a way to re-run the installation?
[05:01] <sabelsatan> where do I change my keyboard layout?
[05:01] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: you don't need to reboot
[05:01] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: hang on a minim
[05:02] <suthink> Will__: erm, reboot with the CD in?
[05:02] <MidnightDevil> sproingie: what line should i exacly look for?
[05:02] <reka> Will__: iirc, no, you have to start over.  but define "froze".  how long did you wait?
[05:02] <apolo> hola
[05:02] <sproingie> MidnightDevil: i really don't know
[05:02] <ivanox> where do I configure which resolution is being used at the gnome loginscreen ?
[05:02] <apolo> need help
[05:02] <sproingie> MidnightDevil: it should be well commented
[05:02] <Will__> reka: hardware error
[05:02] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: you added the repository and used apt-get to get the java?
[05:03] <MidnightDevil> something like allow=127.0.0.1
[05:03] <MidnightDevil> _?
[05:03] <Dj_AlTeK> hey what command do i use if i want to start autorun.exe in terminal with wine??
[05:03] <suthink> ivanox: likely the default one selected in your x11 config file
[05:03] <bob2> Dj_AlTeK: wine autorun.exe, just like the help says
[05:03] <apolo> wath can i do if forgot my pass of rot?
[05:03] <sproingie> MidnightDevil: that looks good.  if you hit your webmin on localhost, then you should be able to get in
[05:04] <bob2> apolo: a) root doesn't have a password by default at all, b) reboot, choose "recovery" from the grub menu
[05:04] <Dj_AlTeK> bob2: it says Wine: cannot find autorun.exe
[05:04] <sproingie> MidnightDevil: if you use your hostname, you'll have to add your hostname's interface and/or local network as well
[05:04] <bob2> Dj_AlTeK: then move to the directory it's in
[05:04] <MidnightDevil> yeap, it does, but i want to allow from any ip, should i add something like what?
[05:04] <Dj_AlTeK> i cant its on cd
[05:04] <apolo> hooo
[05:04] <bob2> Dj_AlTeK: so move to the directory on the CD
[05:05] <apolo> tanks bob2
[05:05] <sproingie> MidnightDevil: i don't really know.  i don't have webmin installed.  you'll have to read the documentation
[05:05] <apolo> go to see
[05:05] <Dj_AlTeK> bob2: when i type cd cdrom0 it says no such file or directory
[05:05] <Dj_AlTeK> nvm got it
[05:05] <bob2> yes, it's not called "cdrom0"
[05:05] <MidnightDevil> sproingie:  ok, thanx :)
[05:05] <Dj_AlTeK> its /media/cdrom0
[05:06] <bob2> yes
[05:06] <Devi0s> why isn't rhythmbox in my gnome menu?
[05:06] <Devi0s> it's installed
[05:06] <Devi0s> but not in my menu
[05:06] <nalioth> Devi0s: its called "music player"
[05:06] <Devi0s> ah
[05:07] <Devi0s> why "Music Player" - seems like a poor summary of it's capabilities
[05:07] <nalioth> Devi0s: you'd have to ask the packager
[05:08] <MidnightDevil> thanx sproingie, working fine now :)
[05:08] <Dj_AlTeK> hey bob2 i get some wierd errors
[05:08] <bob2> please don't dcc chat me
[05:08] <bob2> just ask in the channel
[05:08] <Dj_AlTeK> sry
[05:09] <Dj_AlTeK> bob2: when im in the cd directory and i run wine setup.exe it will start but at the end it stops and i get: "fixme:msi:ACTION_PerformUIAction UNHANDLED MSI ACTION L'Fatal_Error'" what should I do?
[05:13] <Dj_AlTeK> hey bob2 you there?
[05:13] <Dj_AlTeK> hey nalioth_wrkn
[05:13] <bob2> yes, I am
[05:13] <bob2> that sounds like wine doesn't support this program
[05:13] <JuNkPhreak> well i hope  all 64bit linux distros fix the problem with opengl games like doom3 and Et and othters soon the chroot deal sucks
[05:14] <Dj_AlTeK> >.> thats great
[05:14] <Dj_AlTeK> i just wanted to install hl2 and play cs source
[05:14] <Dj_AlTeK> :*(
[05:14] <bob2> Dj_AlTeK: I'm pretty sure you need cedega for that
[05:14] <mmichelli> how does a person run an install, i downloaded the wireless tools .27 from hp but dont know how to run the install
[05:14] <Dj_AlTeK> ugh i have cedega i just dont know how to install it
[05:14] <bob2> JuNkPhreak: that's highly unlikely to be a "64bit linux distro" problem
[05:14] <mmichelli> tried double clicking
[05:15] <mmichelli> there is a make file in the folder
[05:15] <reka> mmichelli: read the README?
[05:16] <ThE__OnE> nalioth_wrkn, i used sypnatic to install Java
[05:16] <mmichelli> i did, no help that i could see
[05:16] <ThE__OnE> hmm, i installed the java as it said in the website, but my firefox  still wont open java files
[05:16] <nalioth_wrkn> ThE__OnE: so ya got it workin then?
[05:16] <mmichelli> i'll read it again
[05:16] <ThE__OnE> nope
[05:16] <nalioth_wrkn> ThE__OnE: have your you restarted firefox?
[05:16] <ThE__OnE> yes
[05:16] <Dj_AlTeK> bob2: i have Cedega-4.2.1-DEB.3282285.TPB and there is 3 files in there. They are: control.tar.gz, data.tar.gz, and debian-binary
[05:17] <bob2> er
[05:17] <wick2o> hello
[05:17] <bob2> you odn't unpack .debs with karchive or file-roller or whatever you're doing
[05:17] <bob2> Dj_AlTeK: didn't they give you instructions when you bought it?
[05:17] <Dj_AlTeK> bob2: i didnt buy it i got it off of www.thepiratebay.org
[05:17] <bob2> charming
[05:17] <ivanox> then u got the wrong files
[05:17] <patchman> hi. cupsd don't start ...
[05:17] <patchman> * Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd
[05:17] <patchman> cupsd: Child exited with status 99!
[05:18] <wick2o> how compatible with debain is ubuntu?  If i add the debain source list to synaptic will i break anything installing software?
[05:18] <JuNkPhreak> bob2 : been all over the net about issues with installing and running 32bit games with 64bit OS linux
[05:18] <bob2> wick2o: yes, don't do it
[05:18] <nalioth_wrkn> ThE__OnE: have you done this? see step 5 https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingJavaSupport
[05:18] <bob2> JuNkPhreak: yes, of course, you can't easily run mac games on an atari, either
[05:18] <ivanox> Dj_AlTeK, u need the .deb files for cedega in ubuntu
[05:18] <ivanox> just 1 file
[05:18] <patchman> tail -f /var/log/cups/error_log
[05:18] <ivanox> I got it
[05:18] <patchman> E [22/Jun/2005:17:17:26 +0200]  StartListening: Unable to bind socket for address 7f000001:631 - Impossibile assegnare l'indirizzo richiesto.
[05:18] <Dj_AlTeK> i have the .deb
[05:19] <ivanox> so then just install it
[05:19] <patchman> netstat -tnlp
[05:19] <patchman> Active Internet connections (only servers)
[05:19] <patchman> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State       PID/Program name
[05:19] <patchman> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:55556           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     7691/rplayd
[05:19] <patchman> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5900            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     7890/vino-server
[05:19] <patchman> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5556            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     7691/rplayd
[05:19] <Dj_AlTeK> cedega_4.2.1-1_i386.deb
[05:19] <ivanox> so install it?
[05:19] <Dj_AlTeK> what command?
[05:19] <patchman> nothing on port 631.
[05:19] <ivanox> omfg
[05:19] <nalioth_wrkn> Dj_AlTeK: so install it
[05:19] <ivanox> if u cannot use it
[05:19] <ivanox> go buy it and get the support
[05:19] <ivanox> damn noobs
[05:19] <Dj_AlTeK> nalioth_wrkn: what command line? chmod?
[05:20] <bob2> patchman: how about "sudo netstat -plunt | grep 631"?
[05:20] <Dj_AlTeK> Fuck off ivanox! its my fuckin 2nd day using linux!
[05:20] <ThE__OnE> nalioth_wrkn, no i have'nt
[05:20] <bob2> ivanox: please stop it
[05:20] <TokenBad> Dj_AlTeK, you didn't use dpkg -i file.deb?
[05:20] <ivanox> and u start warezing stuff on the second day lol
[05:20] <bob2> Dj_AlTeK: chill dude
[05:20] <nalioth_wrkn> Dj_AlTeK: to install deb files, one must use (from the terminal) "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[05:20] <patchman> bob2, nothing
[05:20] <Dj_AlTeK> nalioth_wrkn: thanx
[05:20] <bob2> patchman: that is very weird
[05:20] <bob2> patchman: I assume that error in english was something like "Can't assign requested address"?
[05:21] <RainMoods> hi, I try to use logmein.com to access a remote computer, I use Firefox and all I see is a gray screen with the java logo in it... can y ou help me?
[05:21] <wick2o> bob2: so i cant use debain debs at all? much compile from source?
[05:21] <bob2> wick2o: you can, but it's a bad idea, and will break upgrades
[05:21] <nalioth_wrkn> gotta go to work, y'all
[05:21] <bob2> wick2o: what do you want that isn't in ubuntu already?
[05:22] <nalioth_wrkn> see ya later
[05:22] <bob2> adios, naltioth
[05:22] <wick2o> irssi, and a bunch of other tools
[05:22] <bob2> RainMoods: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:22] <Dj_AlTeK> TokenBad: when i use sudo dpkg -i file.deb i get: errors were incountered while processing: cedega
[05:22] <bob2> wick2o: irssi is in Ubuntu
[05:22] <RainMoods> thanks bob2
[05:22] <patchman> bob2, yes ... but why?
[05:22] <bob2> patchman: I don't know
[05:22] <wick2o> umm didnt see it or other stuff (ethereal,ettercap) in the synaptic list :\
[05:23] <bob2> patchman: what does "uname -r" print out?
[05:23] <wick2o> ill reboot and take another look
[05:23] <wick2o> oh...and joe isnt installed
[05:23] <bob2> wick2o: enable the universe repository; edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:23] <ubuntu_> can anyone help me move files from my hD over a network to another PC?
[05:23] <goldfish_> nfs ?
[05:23] <jbroome> ubuntu_: what OS's are each computer using?
[05:23] <wick2o> k. anx for the info bob2
[05:23] <jbroome> if they're both linux you can SCP
[05:23] <rommer> when are scripts in /etc/cron.monthly run, the first day of the month at 00:00?
[05:23] <ubuntu_> my computer is using the LiveCD, the other computer is using Xp Pro
[05:23] <patchman> bob2, 2.6.10
[05:24] <jbroome> ubuntu_: you're going from xp to live cd box?
[05:24] <TokenBad> Dj_AlTeK, sounds like bad file
[05:24] <TokenBad> cause if getting errors then something is wrong
[05:24] <ubuntu_> jbroome: liveCD to xp
[05:24] <bob2> patchman: that's very odd
[05:25] <Dj_AlTeK> TokenBad: Thanx
[05:25] <TokenBad> what kind of errors?
[05:26] <Dj_AlTeK> its just saying that i dont have libpng3 installed but in spm there's a green box next to it saying its installed
[05:26] <lennart> nti
[05:26] <TokenBad> I went through something like that to..
[05:26] <TokenBad> had to install some files
[05:27] <lennart> where does ubunti store pg_hba.conf for postgresql?
[05:27] <ThE__OnE> nalioth_wrkn, iam afraid that did not work
[05:27] <rommer> when are scripts in /etc/cron.monthly run, the first day of the month at 00:00?
[05:27] <TokenBad> Dj_AlTeK, try this: sudo apt-get install libpng-dev
[05:28] <bob2> lennart: /etc/postgresql/
[05:28] <lennart> thanks
[05:29] <TokenBad> well guess he didn't want the help after all
[05:30] <ThE__OnE> can someone help me? i installed java but firefox wont open java, how can i fix this?
[05:30] <RainMoods> bob2: java issue with logmein is solved, thanks!
[05:31] <patchman> bob2, there is something into the kernel related to CUPS?
[05:31] <RainMoods> ThE__OnE: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:31] <bob2> patchman: no
[05:31] <bob2> patchman: I only asked about your kernel version on a vague guess you were using 2.6.12 or something
[05:31] <ThE__OnE> RainMoods, i follwed everything in method 1 in that page, and thats why i said i installed java package
[05:32] <RainMoods> ah, ThE__OnE...
[05:32] <RainMoods> I am afraid my expertise is not going any further than mentioning that URL
[05:32] <ThE__OnE> =)
[05:32] <RainMoods> but
[05:32] <RainMoods> there's something in ubuntuguide re. java
[05:32] <djtansey> has anyone here ever setup a external USB RAID (mirroring) array? I just lot a lot of data when my maxtor external drive failed. i don't wnat to let that happen again.
[05:33] <RainMoods> one moment
[05:33] <patchman> bob2, ok
[05:33] <RainMoods> here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[05:35] <patchman> root@basso:/usr/src/linux # /usr/sbin/cupsd
[05:35] <patchman> cupsd: Child exited with status 99!
[05:35] <patchman> someone know something?
[05:36] <ThE__OnE> RainMoods, thanks, i will check it out now
[05:37] <RainMoods> ThE__OnE: okay let me know how it goes
[05:37] <black-whisp> is there any way to connect to my windows sata ntfs drive? and coppy some files?
[05:38] <mindspin> check /var/log/cups/err.log
[05:38] <Chadwill> im looking at synaptic here.. and i see a lot of games for KDE..but im using gnome..can i still install the kde games?
[05:38] <Jimbob> Chadwill: yes
[05:38] <Chadwill> will they create entries in the start menu?
[05:38] <RainMoods> black-whisp: yes there is a way to connect to a ntfs drive
[05:39] <RainMoods> but I do not know what sata is
[05:39] <Jimbob> Chadwill: They should
[05:39] <black-whisp> sata serial ata hardisk
[05:39] <DunkMaster> hallo
[05:40] <RainMoods> black-whisp: try this:http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[05:40] <DunkMaster> i have a Q
[05:40] <DunkMaster> :P
[05:40] <DunkMaster> i installed enlightenment
[05:40] <DunkMaster> but its not in session menu
[05:40] <DunkMaster> so i cant boot it
[05:40] <DunkMaster> i installed all enlightenment components from Synaptic
[05:40] <ThE__OnE> RainMoods, it did'nt work =/
[05:41] <DunkMaster> but still not working
[05:41] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Go to Applications->System Tools->Configuration Editor
[05:41] <DunkMaster> whats next Jimbob
[05:41] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Then navigate to "/desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager"
[05:42] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Change the value of "current" to "/usr/bin/enlightenment"
[05:42] <jpatota> i just installed 3ddesk and wanted to know what the best method of keymapping is
[05:42] <jpatota> like if i wanted to switch desktops with control+right or left
[05:42] <jpatota> where do i set that up
[05:42] <DunkMaster> ok
[05:42] <sig> anyone know if dvdstyler will be added to the repo's anytime soon?
[05:43] <DunkMaster> Jimbob
[05:43] <DunkMaster> i need to reboot now?
[05:43] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: No
[05:43] <black-whisp> RainMoods: thx
[05:43] <DunkMaster> just ctrl alt backspac
[05:43] <DunkMaster> ?
[05:43] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Open System->Preferences->Sessions
[05:43] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Remove the "metacity" entry in "Current Session"
[05:43] <RainMoods> ThE__OnE: I know this is not gonna help you, but I am having problems with java on one machine, while the other PC (a clean install) is working great
[05:44] <RainMoods> black-whisp: np
[05:44] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Then hit CTRL+ALT+F2 and run /usr/bin/enlightenment
[05:44] <DunkMaster> Jimbob, i need to swithc to gnome
[05:44] <ThE__OnE> hehe
[05:44] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Erm, sorry, ALT+F2
[05:44] <ThE__OnE> i will reboot a little later, and see if that hhelps
[05:44] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Are you using KDE?
[05:44] <DunkMaster> XFCe
[05:45] <RainMoods> So now I am trying to get all my stuff in a back-up so I can do a new fresh install here on this PC
[05:45] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Oh.
[05:45] <reka> jpatota: that still uses gnome right?
[05:45] <Danar> how come nvu isn't in the repository?
[05:45] <RainMoods> ah..reboot solution. That's sooo win95!
[05:45] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Dunno how XFCE handles window manager selection.
[05:45] <ThE__OnE> last resort
[05:45] <DunkMaster> ill switch to gnome
[05:45] <DunkMaster> will brb
[05:46] <RainMoods> OK bye all
[05:46] <jpatota> reka, yeah if i can stay with gnome that would be good
[05:46] <alexmacy> re
[05:46] <patchman> mindspin, cat /var/log/cups/error_log
[05:46] <reka> jpatota: try sys->pref ->k/b shortcuts
[05:46] <alexmacy> i'm looking for a GPL equivalent of visualroute, any idea?
[05:46] <patchman> I [22/Jun/2005:17:35:07 +0200]  Listening to 7f000001:631
[05:46] <patchman> I [22/Jun/2005:17:35:07 +0200]  Loaded configuration file "/etc/cups/cupsd.conf"
[05:46] <patchman> I [22/Jun/2005:17:35:07 +0200]  Configured for up to 100 clients.
[05:46] <patchman> I [22/Jun/2005:17:35:07 +0200]  Allowing up to 100 client connections per host.
[05:46] <patchman> I [22/Jun/2005:17:35:07 +0200]  Full reload is required.
[05:46] <patchman> I [22/Jun/2005:17:35:07 +0200]  LoadPPDs: Read "/etc/cups/ppds.dat", 2348 PPDs...
[05:46] <patchman> I [22/Jun/2005:17:35:07 +0200]  LoadPPDs: No new or changed PPDs...
[05:46] <patchman> I [22/Jun/2005:17:35:07 +0200]  Full reload complete.
[05:47] <patchman> E [22/Jun/2005:17:35:07 +0200]  StartListening: Unable to bind socket for address 7f000001:631 - Impossibile assegnare l'indirizzo richiesto.
[05:47] <mindspin> cpatchman you#re right
[05:47] <KarlosII> waaa your still inthe win95 era
[05:47] <patchman> mindspin, ?
[05:47] <mindspin> patchman i dont understand the italian part ;-)
[05:48] <mindspin> how did you configure cups ?
[05:48] <likkashot> what do I need to install to listen to mp3's
[05:48] <patchman> mindspin, means: unable to assigne the required address.
[05:48] <mindspin> i know was just kiddin
[05:48] <reka> likkashot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:49] <mindspin> I'm using kde so maybe I can't help really
[05:49] <jpatota> reka, i looked there before but is there a way to add customized shortcuts to that
[05:50] <reka> jpatota: yes.
[05:50] <mindspin> patchman and moreover, i print via samba on my partners printer
[05:50] <reka> jpatota: click on the shortcut, and you can change it
[05:51] <reka> jpatota: the two you're looking for are at the bottom
[05:51] <patchman> mindspin, and if I have no partners? ... :-)
[05:52] <reka> patchman: use mindspin's. :-P
[05:52] <mindspin> in kde you have to define which protocol to use .I'm sure there's something similiar in gnome
[05:52] <Danar> alexmacy: http://www.caida.org/tools/visualization/gtrace/
[05:52] <mindspin> samba over internet haha
[05:52] <patchman> :-\
[05:52] <mindspin> hows your printer connected?
[05:53] <patchman> mindspin, via ethernet
[05:53] <Chadwill> any advice on where to get linux games for kids? ive tried some google without luck..i want some freeware
[05:53] <reka> Chadwill: synaptic sectioning. :-)
[05:53] <AlwaysModest> sourceforge.net
[05:53] <m0r0n> E: Package mplayer-k6 has no installation candidate??? What does that mean? I ve read the howto for mplayer https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MplayerInstallHowto. My PC has got an AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+
[05:53] <ntoll> Chadwill, GCompris, TuxPaint, CircusLinux are all in Ubuntu universe
[05:54] <mindspin> and which protocol do you use smb? tcp ?
[05:54] <mindspin> ipp?
[05:54] <reka> m0r0n: it can't find the package in the repo list
[05:54] <Capeo> hi..
[05:55] <mindspin> when cups cannot bind adress to socket it could be a misconfiguration in those settings
[05:55] <m0r0n> reka, all repositories are activated, hm
[05:55] <reka> m0r0n: apt-get update
[05:56] <sjefen__> anyone who can help me with some questions?
[05:57] <bob2> best to just ask
[05:58] <sjefen__> ok, I installed ubuntu on a computer, but while loading gnuk, error 18 occurs
[05:58] <sjefen__> what can I do?
[05:58] <bob2> you need to show us the whole error
[05:58] <bob2> in #flood
[05:58] <spiderworm> OH SHIT!  NOT ERROR 18??!!!!
[05:58] <spiderworm> hehehe sorry
[05:59] <sjefen__> I'm completely new in linux.. hehe.. what do I do to show you the whole message?
[05:59] <spiderworm> sjefen__: first type /join #flood
[05:59] <AlwaysModest> lol spiderworm
[05:59] <spiderworm> then copy and paste the message in there
[05:59] <spiderworm> you know, control+c, control+v
[06:00] <sjefen__> yeah that's not the problem
[06:00] <sjefen__> Ok, we'll take it in flood
[06:01] <DunkMaster> back
[06:01] <DunkMaster> and it didnt work
[06:02] <dex3ter> hello
[06:03] <DunkMaster> ok, is there any way to add Enlightenment to sessions menu?
[06:03] <DunkMaster> so i can boot it up
[06:03] <dex3ter> plz..could anybody help me with running SCILAB in UBUNTU?
[06:03] <bionic> Are  there any WineX packages for ubuntu 5.04?
[06:03] <bob2> dex3ter: you need to ask a question, first...
[06:04] <fRanCo> Compatability with installing ubuntu using vmware?
[06:05] <dex3ter> ok...i can't make SCILAB running after installing it from the repostory
[06:05] <reka> bionic: i think people use cedega for games
[06:06] <bionic> okay, whats the package search function? apt-get install cedega, no such package
[06:06] <flugh> apt-cache search foo
[06:07] <bionic> ait locstah :p
[06:08] <mbruemmer> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ladspa-sdk_1.1-2_powerpc.deb: try /usr/include/ladspa.h to overwrite, which is also a package in  ladspa-devel
[06:08] <mbruemmer> sorry for the not exactly translation of the errormassage
[06:08] <bob2> mbruemmer: are both those packages from ubuntu?
[06:08] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: In /etc/gdm/Sessions, just copy/paste the Xfce one to Enlightenment
[06:09] <DunkMaster> ok Jimbob
[06:09] <DunkMaster> will try
[06:09] <mbruemmer> bob2 no it was alien'ed and dpkg'ed
[06:09] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: And edit it so it runs enlightenment instead of xfce
[06:09] <bob2> mbruemmer: there you go, that was a terrible idea
[06:09] <mbruemmer> can i make it reverse?
[06:10] <bob2> just stop installing it
[06:10] <mbruemmer> bob2 i need it
[06:10] <bob2> no, you don't
[06:10] <bob2> do you mean "I want the LADSPA headers"?
[06:10] <mbruemmer> for a sequencer called rosegarden
[06:10] <bob2> dude
[06:10] <bob2> rosegarden is also in ubuntu already
[06:10] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Sorry, I was mistaken
[06:11] <reka> bionic: not in the repos. i think it's a subscription service: http://www.transgaming.com/
[06:11] <mbruemmer> bob2 :is not working for my ibook
[06:11] <mbruemmer> bob2 :i need only a new header????
[06:11] <bob2> mbruemmer: you mean you installed it usign apt or synaptic, and it didn't work?
[06:11] <bddebian> Hello
[06:12] <bob2> start over and tell us what your initial goal was
[06:12] <bddebian> Does anyone know where the framework for fork/derivitive distro's is kept?
[06:12] <bionic> reka, yeah looks like it cost money, thanks though
[06:12] <mbruemmer> bob2; for rosegarden yes, it was installed by synaptic
[06:12] <bob2> mbruemmer: and what happened?
[06:13] <ThE__OnE> how do i run this command every midnight? updatedb
[06:13] <mbruemmer> bob2: the sequencer wont start
[06:13] <bob2> ThE__OnE: it's already run automatically
[06:13] <bob2> mbruemmer: why do you think recompiling will help?
[06:13] <jmazaredo> when backing up what important directories should i consider an what i should't
[06:13] <ThE__OnE> oh ok
[06:14] <DunkMaster> Jimbob
[06:14] <DunkMaster> what im supposed to do
[06:14] <mbruemmer> bob2: why recompilling it was a bin package (if we are talking 'bout rosegdn,)
[06:15] <bob2> mbruemmer: so why are you installing the ladspa headers?
[06:15] <zyth> bionic, yeah, $5/month I think
[06:15] <mbruemmer> because it will be use by rsgdn
[06:16] <bob2> ok
[06:16] <bob2> you seem a bit confused
[06:16] <bob2> rosegarden the binary does not care about ladspa headers
[06:16] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: I'm figuring it out now :-)
[06:16] <DunkMaster> lol
[06:16] <DunkMaster> ok
[06:16] <mbruemmer> bob2   but why the sequencer will not start??
[06:17] <bob2> mbruemmer: I dont know, I'd assume because you didn't setup midi for your card
[06:17] <thechitowncubs> in order to apply a patch to a kernel, what packages do i need to get to recompile it?
[06:17] <mbruemmer> bob2 how do i?
[06:17] <DunkMaster> Jimbob
[06:17] <bob2> thechitowncubs: what patch?
[06:17] <thechitowncubs> bob2: Smart Battery
[06:18] <DunkMaster> maybe i should try to change /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[06:18] <bob2> thechitowncubs: and linux-source-2.6.10, kernel-package, fakeroot and build-essential
[06:18] <DunkMaster> from usr/bin/gdm to /usr/bin/enlightenment?
[06:19] <mbruemmer> bob2 : are there any apps to do so?
[06:19] <thechitowncubs> bob2: thanks, I'll let you know how it goes
[06:19] <bob2> mbruemmer: I doubt it
[06:19] <bob2> mbruemmer: I'd just install timidity
[06:19] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: No
[06:20] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: That'll break things badly
[06:20] <DunkMaster> oh
[06:20] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: In /etc/dm/Sessions
[06:20] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: copy xfce4.desktop to e.desktop
[06:20] <mbruemmer> bob2:and thats the point of all i want to install it and then it errors w/t massage above
[06:21] <bob2> mbruemmer: so get rid of ladspa-devel
[06:21] <bob2> and don't use alien again
[06:21] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: edit e.desktop to say "Enlightenment" instead of "Xfce Session", and change the "Exec=startxcfe4" line to "Exec=enlightenment"
[06:21] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Then try that -- you can test it by going to "Applications->System Tools->New login in a nested window"
[06:22] <mbruemmer> bob2: excuse me i nativly speak german what does it mean ?
[06:22] <mbruemmer> bob2: what is get rid?
[06:22] <DunkMaster> ok
[06:22] <DunkMaster> danke
[06:22] <mindspin> etwas loswerden
[06:22] <bob2> mbruemmer: remove?
[06:22] <bob2> mbruemmer: #ubuntu-de might be a better place to ask for help?
[06:22] <mindspin> mbruemmer etwas loswerden
[06:23] <thomerz> PLEASE DON'T USE BREEZY YET -- REALLY <<<- why this?
[06:23] <|Ivanch0|> naz
[06:23] <bob2> thomerz: because it's not ready for general users yet
[06:23] <goldfish_> it's very unstable?
[06:23] <mbruemmer> bob2: oh i dont know the syn. for remove. so i learned today a new word THANK you
[06:23] <bob2> e.g. some people's keyboards don't work in ubuntu at all
[06:23] <bob2> mbruemmer: hah, you're welcome
[06:23] <bob2> er, s/ubuntu/X/
[06:24] <mindspin> mbruemmer it#s not remove its mor like what I'd said
[06:24] <gek> whats the easiest way to burn an audio cd?
[06:24] <Nephaestous> growisofs?
[06:24] <gek> without installing k3b (i dont want kde on my system)
[06:25] <Nephaestous> you don't need kde for k3b
[06:25] <mbruemmer> bob2: do i get off it? with dpkg?
[06:25] <thechitowncubs> bob2: if i copy my current config into /usr/src/linux/.config and do make oldconfig after i apply the patch will that configure the kernel how the previous one was?
[06:25] <Nephaestous> just some libs
[06:25] <goldfish_> anyone know of any command line torrent clients for ubuntu ?
[06:25] <bob2> growisofs does audio cds?
[06:25] <bob2> goldfish_: bittornado, then btdownloadcurses foo.torrent
[06:25] <bob2> thechitowncubs: yes
[06:25] <DunkMaster> Jimbob
[06:25] <bob2> thechitowncubs: but then you need to build it with make-kpkg --initrd
[06:25] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Yo
[06:26] <thechitowncubs> why is that?
[06:26] <Nephaestous> bob2: no
[06:26] <DunkMaster> no such thing as xfce4.desktop in /etc/gdm/sessions
[06:26] <DunkMaster> sorry
[06:26] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Yeah, no "g"
[06:26] <Nephaestous> gek: try gnomemaker
[06:26] <Jimbob>  /etc/dm/Sessions
[06:26] <Nephaestous> oh, gnomebaker
[06:26] <bob2> thechitowncubs: because the default config makes things like ext2 modular, so you won't be able to boot if you don't have an initrd
[06:27] <drspin> why won't my CD drive eject?
[06:27] <Jimbob> drspin: Something is using it
[06:27] <thechitowncubs> gotcha, thanks for the help
[06:27] <bob2> drspin: is it mounted? right click on the cd icon the desktop and select unmount
[06:27] <drspin> Jimbob: not at all -- and it's not mounted "/dev/hdd is not mounted according to mtab"
[06:27] <DunkMaster> Jimbob, ill rename the Xfce Session to e?
[06:28] <bob2> hrm, weird
[06:28] <bob2> drspin: does "sudo eject /dev/hdd" work?
[06:28] <drspin> bob2: nope
[06:28] <DunkMaster> sudo eject /mnt/hdd
[06:28] <bob2> that is very weird
[06:28] <bob2> drspin: anything interesting at the end of "dmesg"?
[06:29] <justin> bob2: not really, lots of other things an optical disk can be used for that don't involve mounting
[06:29] <bob2> justin: hm, but do any of them run automatically on ubuntu?
[06:29] <drspin> yes -> # flood please
[06:30] <goldfish_> bob2: thanks.
[06:30] <DunkMaster> Jimbob, thanx alot, but i have to go
[06:30] <DunkMaster> ill be back tomorrow
[06:31] <drspin> WTF -- I thought you could flood #flood and not get disconnected :/
[06:31] <jbroome> hahahah
[06:31] <al_> hello
[06:31] <thechitowncubs> In the Smart Batter patch readme: I don't understand this step, can someone help me out? Ensure that you have Intel's iasl compiler installed somewhere in
[06:31] <thechitowncubs>    your PATH. The compiler can be downloaded from
[06:31] <bob2> drspin: that just means your irc client is crap ;)
[06:31] <DunkMaster> ok, byez
[06:31] <bob2> thechitowncubs: er, that's whack
[06:31] <al_> someone has a solution for the ibook g3 sleep problem ?
[06:31] <bob2> al_: kill hal
[06:32] <thechitowncubs> it gives me the download link, but on the intel page it says that ACPI CA is in the linux kernel after 2.4
[06:32] <drspin> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/168
[06:32] <auk> bob2: hal?
[06:32] <thechitowncubs> does that mean the compiler is built in?
[06:32] <thechitowncubs> to later kernels...
[06:32] <bob2> thechitowncubs: where's this patch from?
[06:32] <al_> bob2, afair i already tried this
[06:32] <xxtreme> bob 2= when I'm in irssi and I see a user with mp3 file, how do I get that file from him.
[06:32] <auk> as in the book...
[06:32] <auk> ?
[06:32] <bob2> al_: make sure
[06:32] <al_> hehe
[06:32] <bob2> auk: there's a daemon called "hal" nowadays
[06:33] <bob2> xxtreme: ask them to put it on an ftp server for you
[06:33] <auk> and how do you keep it form runnign on statrup?
[06:33] <thechitowncubs> https://sourceforge.net/projects/sbs-linux/
[06:33] <xxtreme> thankx
[06:33] <truz24> What do you do in ubuntu to load raid drivers ?
[06:33] <truz24> on install
[06:33] <bob2> xxtreme: or /help dcc
[06:34] <bob2> truz24: it should detect all real raid cards by default
[06:34] <bob2> auk: hal? hrm, I'm not sure; dbus runs it.
[06:34] <mbruemmer> hello how to deinstall with dpkg
[06:35] <thechitowncubs> iasl -d dsdt.dat  (that is what i have to do with iasl
[06:35] <bob2> thechitowncubs: this is getting into heavy hackery
[06:35] <bob2> modifying your dsdt can be dangerous, I think
[06:36] <tehmasp> mbruemmer, dpkg -r
[06:36] <thechitowncubs> bob2: hehe, It doesn't seem that complex, if only i can get iasl compiler
[06:36] <tehmasp> mbruemmer, there are some nice examples in 'man dpkg'
[06:36] <thechitowncubs> bob2: I'm keeping a backup kernel just in case
[06:36] <bob2> thechitowncubs: it's not complex, but dsdt is kinda part of your bios, and this thing wants to patch it
[06:36] <basti> hello
[06:37] <thechitowncubs> bob2: right...
[06:37] <bob2> which would scare me
[06:37] <auk> basti: hi?
[06:37] <basti> why a ?
[06:37] <thechitowncubs> bob2: as long as i have a backup it doesn't scare me
[06:37] <bob2> thechitowncubs: you have a backup of your bios?
[06:38] <bob2> thechitowncubs: http://developer.intel.com/technology/iapc/acpi/downloads.htm
[06:38] <thechitowncubs> um, no
[06:38] <drspin> It's really annoying that everytime I use my CD Drives I have to restart my computer --
[06:38] <thechitowncubs> it's not modifying the bios, its modifying the files that get info from the bios
[06:38] <bob2> thechitowncubs: anyway, that's where you can get iasl from
[06:38] <justin> drspin: use how?
[06:38] <thechitowncubs> the bios has to be flashed with a utility
[06:39] <al_> bob2, i try. amen.
[06:39] <basti> how can I uninstall NForce Audio Drivers, OSS and ALSA?
[06:39] <thechitowncubs> bob2: I know, i've been trying to compile it... i'll keep trying but..
[06:39] <drspin> justin -- well I put a CD in -- let it mount -- do what I need to do with it -- right click -- eject -- doesn't eject --
[06:40] <drspin> sudo eject /dev/hdd doesn't eject it
[06:40] <justin> drspin: why not?
[06:40] <drspin> justin: if I knew that answer to that I'd be much better off
[06:41] <bob2> thechitowncubs: ok, according to someone who knows entirely too much about ACPI, it's a terrible hack
[06:41] <bob2> but I think it'll be ok
[06:41] <justin> drspin: why does the eject program say that it can not eject the cdrom?
[06:41] <thechitowncubs> bob2: can you ask that person if anything special is needed to compile the IASL compiler
[06:42] <bob2> thechitowncubs: is opinion of modifying the dsdt at all (which is what you're doing) is "fucking stupid", so I don't think he's done it before :-)
[06:42] <tehmasp> hi, i'm trying to get my orinoco card working, there appears to be modules already in the modules directory, pcmcia-cs is installed, and when i insert the card all i get in /var/log/messages is '...kernel: cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean.' . The only info. on the net is for patching the drivers for rfmon support which i don't need atm, so i'm assuming it's supposed to work out of the box?  any help appreciated. thanks
[06:42] <drspin> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/168
[06:42] <thechitowncubs> lol, ya, well its the only way for now to get the battery status to work
[06:42] <justin> tehmasp: what does cardctl ident say?
[06:43] <drspin> justin: it doesn't -- it just sits there...
[06:43] <drspin> *yawn*
[06:43] <justin> drspin: you mean it hangs?
[06:43] <drspin> how can I issue a reset on that IDE channel?
[06:43] <thechitowncubs> aslcompiler.l:847: error: `yytext_ptr' undeclared (first use in this function)
[06:43] <thechitowncubs> thats the error i get if that helps at all
[06:44] <Seveas> hello people and other beings :)
[06:44] <Seveas> thechitowncubs, aptitude install flex bison
[06:44] <chrissturm> seveas :)
[06:44] <thechitowncubs> wow really?
[06:44] <drspin> justin: yes
[06:44] <thechitowncubs> that was easy
[06:44] <Seveas> thechitowncubs, what exactly are you compiling?
[06:44] <tehmasp> justin, it finds it , Socket 0 \ product info: Lucent...' \ manfid: '...' \ function: 6 (network)
[06:44] <thechitowncubs> IASL compiler
[06:44] <Seveas> i mean. it's makefile sucks
[06:44] <Seveas> since this stage should not be reached without bison and flex...
[06:45] <justin> tehmasp: the parts that you replaced with ... are the actual useful parts
[06:45] <thechitowncubs> alright, that didn't work...
[06:45] <Seveas> hmm
[06:45] <Seveas> where did you get it from? i'll try it...
[06:46] <al_> hmm
[06:46] <thechitowncubs> I was searching the forums... and this is what they said: Hint: in order to compile iasl compiler from intel you need the package flex-old (instead of flex) as the web mentioned above points.
[06:46] <thechitowncubs> so i guess i'll try it
[06:46] <Seveas> hmm, ok, so the thing really sucks ;)
[06:47] <bob2> oh, wow
[06:47] <bob2> yay intel
[06:47] <Seveas> what bob2?
[06:47] <thechitowncubs> its working :)
[06:47] <bob2> Seveas: thechitowncubs is compiling some terrible intel code
[06:47] <tehmasp> justin, Socket 0 \ product info: "Lucent Tech.", "WaveLAN/IEEE", "Version 01.01", "" \ manfid: 0x0156, 0x0002 \ function: 6 (network)
[06:47] <Seveas> ah
[06:47] <thechitowncubs> lol
[06:47] <Seveas> Intel ASsembly Language?
[06:48] <bob2> it's some acpi thing, it compiles down to DSDTs
[06:48] <justin> tehmasp: that's listed in /etc/pcmcia/config as card "Intersil PRISM2 11 Mbps Wireless Adapter", manfid 0x0156, 0x0002, so it should work
[06:48] <justin> tehmasp: it should load orinoco_cs for you when you plug it in
[06:48] <thechitowncubs> well it sucessfully disassembled my dsdt
[06:49] <drspin> justin: bob2: any ideas how I can get this CD to eject?
[06:49] <goldfish_> !java
[06:49] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[06:49] <tehmasp> justin, yeah, orinoco_cs , and orinoco are loaded, just checked , sorry, but is there some config. i have to set up then, because if i do 'ifup eth1' it says interface unknown
[06:49] <justin> tehmasp: what does ifconfig -a or iwconfig say?
[06:49] <bob2> drspin: anything from "lsof | grep hdd"?
[06:50] <fetman> I need help with tv-out!
[06:50] <drspin> bob2: no --
[06:50] <bob2> drspin: I don't know then, sorry
[06:50] <drspin> bob2: I treid it with grep cdrom as well and nothing
[06:50] <drspin> bob2: did you look at my paste?
[06:51] <drspin> bob2: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/168
[06:51] <bob2> you didn't paste anything anywhere
[06:51] <bob2> bah
[06:51] <tehmasp> justin, ifconfig -a has an entry for eth1 , likewise for iwconfig
[06:51] <bob2> drspin: the kernel is very confused about that device
[06:52] <signius> man my hard drives are cooking in this heat
[06:52] <drspin> bob2: could it have something to do with my hdparm settings?
[06:52] <bob2> drspin: could do
[06:52] <signius> just got home from work they running at 47 degress
[06:52] <bob2> drspin: forcing dma on could do that
[06:52] <cassie> hello
[06:52] <cassie> i have version 5.04, is it easy to put apache?
[06:52] <justin> tehmasp: then it is working, use the network settings program or edit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:52] <al_> bob2, stopping hald/dbus didn't change anything
[06:52] <Seveas> cassie, VERY easy :)
[06:53] <bob2> al_: well, that's the only bug I know of
[06:53] <al_> bob2, when i wake up the ibook it halts after two or three seconds
[06:53] <tehmasp> justin, just that there is no valid ip address, and when i try to bring it up it doesn't find the interface
[06:53] <tehmasp> justin, ok, let me check that file
[06:53] <drspin> bob2: /sbin/hdparm -d1c1X66 /dev/hdd
[06:53] <bob2> drspin: er, ok
[06:53] <Seveas> cassie, please ask before sending private messages...
[06:53] <bob2> al_: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1940
[06:54] <cassie> Seveas, may i please pm u
[06:54] <Seveas> bob2, heh, for me hibernating sucked too :)
[06:54] <bob2> worked out of the box for me
[06:54] <Seveas> I got only the bottom half of my GUI back and the system hanged :)
[06:54] <bob2> with swsusp on hoary?
[06:54] <Seveas> yes
[06:55] <Seveas> but upgraded from warty
[06:55] <bob2> that should work everywhere, aside from using the nvidia driver
[06:55] <bob2> with the hoary kernel?
[06:55] <Seveas> cassie, not needed, apache can simply be installed with synaptic
[06:55] <Seveas> bob2, yes, and ATI drivers
[06:55] <thechitowncubs> Hunk #1 FAILED at 3255.
[06:55] <thechitowncubs> Hunk #2 FAILED at 3283.
[06:55] <thechitowncubs> Hunk #3 succeeded at 4686 with fuzz 1 (offset -241 lines).
[06:55] <thechitowncubs> that looks like a problem to me
[06:55] <bob2> ah, binary at idrivers?
[06:55] <Seveas> l-r-m package, but yes the binary ones
[06:55] <bob2> thechitowncubs: the patch is not for your kernel version
[06:56] <thechitowncubs> bob2: haha, thanks, simple mistake
[06:56] <Seveas> so I guess ATI drivers suck wrt swsusp too?
[06:56] <bob2> I didn't think so, but they'd be the first thing I'd try disabling
[06:56] <thechitowncubs> bob2: oh wait, so do I have to downgrade?
[06:56] <Seveas> I'll try later
[06:56] <Seveas> thanks
[06:57] <xvlun> Seveas, yeas they fuck up every kind of suspend
[06:57] <cassie> well where can i go to learn about ubuntu
[06:57] <goldfish_> cassie: you got it installed?
[06:57] <xvlun> thats a known problem ati hasn't fixed for about 2 years
[06:57] <bob2> thechitowncubs: how much do you care about this patch?
[06:58] <cassie> no
[06:58] <matjan_> hi, is there anyone using DSL? if so, what modem are you using? i need to find one that's compatible with ubuntu (ir linux in general)...
[06:58] <cassie> i have ubuntu installed
[06:58] <cassie> but like adding stuff
[06:58] <goldfish_> cassie: install it and use it :)
[06:58] <nubbe> Is ubuntuguide.org still more or less foolproof(, it's getting big)? I've had trouble with gstreamer stuff. Anyone got an informed opinion? I would have been in a world of hurt without that page, tho....
[06:58] <thechitowncubs> bob2: well, i guess i just wanted to try to get it working, but its not really necessary
[06:58] <bob2> nubbe: some of the stuff is rather silly, it seems to mostly be good
[06:58] <Seveas> nubbe, ubuntuguide is foolish rather than foolproof
[06:59] <nubbe> :)
[06:59] <thechitowncubs> Seveas: why do you bash the ubuntuguide so much?
[06:59] <tehmasp> justin, Yay! , it's working, thanks a lot man!
[06:59] <Seveas> nubbe, the wiki contains better information (it actually contains information rather than listings of instructions)
[06:59] <nubbe> it's not only foolish, it's awesome too!!!
[07:00] <cassie> where can i get win4lin
[07:00] <thechitowncubs> Ya, I've grown to like the wiki too :)
[07:00] <nubbe> I'll check the wiki better, but for a noob, it's the best FAQ-like page I ever seen, for anytinh
[07:00] <thechitowncubs> they are both helpful
[07:01] <basti> no idea?
[07:02] <madsen> Hmm, I lost a link... Somebody gave me a link to a thread at ubuntuforums.org about installing Battle for Wesnoth 0.9.2, but I can't seem to google it up again. :( Anyone?
[07:04] <wolverian> madsen: the forums have a search page, don't they?
[07:04] <rronkiv> is linux nicer to a laptop then windows?
[07:04] <xxtreme_> bob2 = any idea how to configure pine with gmail
[07:04] <bob2> xxtreme_: why would you use pine with gmail?
[07:04] <bddebian> rronkiv: Depends on what you mean by nicer
[07:05] <rronkiv> like more energy efecent and speedwise
[07:05] <madsen> wolverian: I can't find it. :O
[07:05] <xxtreme_> bob2 good question, i just like pine overall
[07:05] <madsen> wolverian: I've found the link... :)
[07:05] <bob2> xxtreme_: I don't know if pine does pop
[07:06] <bob2> xxtreme_: or if gmail does smtp
[07:06] <bddebian> rronkiv: I suppose as with everything else, the answer is: it depends. :-)  Generally speaking, I would say yes though
[07:06] <Seveas> gmail does only pop3s and smtps
[07:06] <xxtreme_> they both do, maybe i can setup fetchmail, just dont know how!!!!!!!!
[07:06] <rronkiv> ok thanks.
[07:07] <bob2> xxtreme_: install fetchmailconf
[07:08] <xxtreme_> bob2_ ok, im doing it now
[07:11] <rafcyk> join #kalisz
[07:12] <WeirdAl> Does anyone know a) cedega CVS or b) where to ask?
[07:13] <WeirdAl> I realise this isn't a particularly ubuntu problem but this is the only place I know to ask :-\
[07:13] <bob2> try #cedega
[07:13] <WeirdAl> Oh, on this server?
[07:13] <Elko> I got a md0 /boot, md1 / and an mdX for some PVs in a vg0 that forms /usr, /var and /home on one of my machines, how do I tell the ubuntu installer to activate the md and lvm configurations?
[07:14] <unome> I don't like Ubuntu, can I have my money back now?
[07:14] <bob2> WeirdAl: yes
[07:14] <WeirdAl> Woot. thanks bob2
[07:14] <bob2> unome: sure
[07:14] <unome> :p
[07:14] <djm62> unome: cash or cheque?
[07:14] <unome> djm62: just gimme
[07:15] <Elko> where does the installer create a mountpoint when it installs the base system is all I need to know really, so I can mount things there myself
[07:15] <bob2> Elko: /target
[07:15] <djm62> Elko: the command mount will list all mounted filesystems and mount points
[07:15] <Elko> /target/{usr,etc} etc?
[07:16] <jMi> Anyone know which packages implement hardware automounting - I think I'm missing one or more.
[07:16] <bob2> except /etc will always be on the root filesystem, yeah
[07:16] <bob2> jMi: install the ubuntu-base package, or, better still, ubuntu-desktop
[07:17] <Flying-Penguin> is ubuntu mouse in /dev/mouse or /dev/input/mice???
[07:18] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: the latter, usually
[07:18] <jMi> bob2: Both are already installed
[07:18] <bob2> jMi: then you have it all
[07:18] <bob2> unless someone rm'd files manually
[07:19] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: what do you mean the latter?
[07:19] <jMi> bob2: No it's a fresh installation. Work Ubuntu PC handles auto mounting OK, home one doesn't
[07:19] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: the latter option you said, ie /dev/input/mice
[07:23] <husher> has anyone here upgraded horay to breezy?
[07:23] <virtuald> yes, everything is broken.
[07:23] <ccc> anyone know an app for ripping (for instance) realmedia streams?
[07:23] <bob2> ccc: mplayer -streamdump
[07:24] <husher> virtuald: were you responding to me?
[07:24] <virtuald> yes
[07:25] <abeliko> hola
[07:25] <bartekp> hi
[07:25] <abeliko> alguien me puede echar una mano?
[07:25] <ccc> bob2: allright. but i don't know how to do it since it's on an mms:// protocol.
[07:25] <husher> virtuald: can you be more specific?
[07:26] <djm62> abeliko: #ubuntu-es might be better ;)
[07:26] <bob2> ccc: mplayer -streamdump mms://bldshlkjfsahdlskjh
[07:26] <ccc> bob2: oh, that simple. :) thanks.
[07:27] <abeliko> hi
[07:27] <keffo> what app do you guys use to view a DVD (file on harddrive)
[07:27] <abeliko> is there anyone?
[07:27] <BlueT_> ccc: mimms could do it too :)
[07:27] <zerokills> keffo: VLC
[07:27] <Remog> what are the min system requirements for Ubuntu
[07:27] <virtuald> husher: they're chainging paths for lots of x stuff from /usr/X11R6/ to /usr/bin/X11. and my xmms makes a bad noise after some hours (might be something with the crossfade plugin)
[07:28] <cassie> whats a good html editor and image editor for ubuntu?
[07:28] <bockman> cassie, i hear good things about nvu for html editing
[07:28] <husher> cassie: html - vim
[07:28] <bockman> and i always use the gimp for images
[07:28] <djm62> abeliko: this is an english-speaking room, people are happy to help if you ask in english.  /join #ubuntu-es for a spanish-speaking room
[07:29] <husher> cassie: bockman's right - gimp for images
[07:29] <cassie> ok
[07:29] <cassie> thanks
[07:29] <concept10> matjan_, are you still there?
[07:30] <cassie> www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:30] <Abnix> is there a way using the ubuntu live cd to force a screen resolution at the boot prompt?
[07:30] <matjan_> concept10: yes
[07:30] <uc50ic4more> does anyone here know how I can batch encode several .wav files to FLAC? In windows, FLAC had several "front end" GUI's that made batch encoding a drag & drop affair... From the command line in Ubuntu, however, I cannot figure out how to batch anything; only one file at a time
[07:31] <Suepahfly> This is a like 'ubuntu helpdesk' right ?
[07:31] <husher> virtuald: so would you reccomend against it?
[07:31] <joseph> Any suggestions to get shoutcast to work with rythmbox?
[07:31] <concept10> matjan_, there are plenty of dsl modems that work in linux.  My sister uses the 1800HG from 2wire that comes with sbc dsl
[07:31] <virtuald> husher: yes. i would downgrade if i could :)
[07:31] <husher> Suepahfly: more or less
[07:31] <concept10> joseph, use streamtuner
[07:32] <Cybermagellan> Does anyone have the Ubuntu logo in .svg?
[07:32] <joseph> concept, how do I get streamtuner? can I apt-get that?
[07:32] <matjan_> concept10: thanks for the tip
[07:32] <Dj_AlTeK> hey how do i remove a directory in root terminal?
[07:32] <djm62> uc50ic4more: for i in *.wav; do <flac-encode command>; done;
[07:32] <joseph> I think the problem is the mpeg not being able to play.
[07:32] <uc50ic4more> djm62 - THX - I will give it a shot
[07:32] <concept10> joseph, apt-get install streamtuner (best thing since sliced bread)
[07:32] <joseph> Odd that the standard ubuntu doesn't play mpeg audio.
[07:32] <mjr> uc50ic4more, for file in *.wav ; do flacenc -o "`basename $file .wav`.flac" $file ; done , or something along those lines
[07:33] <joseph> k
[07:33] <concept10> joseph, not odd
[07:33] <Abnix> is there a way using the ubuntu live cd to force a screen resolution at the boot prompt?
[07:33] <uc50ic4more> mjr - thanks!
[07:33] <djm62> uc50ic4more: for more info, man bash ;)
[07:33] <mjr> hmh, "$file"
[07:33] <joseph> apt-get can't find streamtuner.
[07:33] <concept10> Abnix, check the help screens f1 - fx - its easy
[07:33] <Cybermagellan> NVM they fixed the wiki and put the graphics back up there....
[07:33] <Abnix> concept10: it's not listed on there
[07:34] <Dj_AlTeK> hey ne1 know how to delete a directory in root terminal??
[07:34] <Kyral> rm
[07:34] <concept10> Abnix, i cant remember the command - its something like linux 800 or something like that
[07:34] <Kyral> rm -r even
[07:34] <djm62> mjr: the command flac does the suffix switching automatically, according to the manpage
[07:34] <mjr> djm62, ok
[07:34] <concept10> joseph, have you added the repos to your system?
[07:34] <mjr> uc50ic4more, anyway, as for gui software, I remembered this: http://soundconverter.berlios.de/
[07:34] <joseph> repos? no...
[07:34] <Remog> what are the min system requirements for Ubuntu
[07:35] <joseph> I can add in synaptic... which ones should I add?
[07:35] <glDaher> nvidia drivers: Linux IA32   ---    Latest Version: 1.0-7667
[07:36] <joseph> If I just select community maintainted?
[07:36] <concept10> joseph,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:36] <glDaher> am afraid to install cuz last time on another distroy it ruined everything
[07:36] <Dj_AlTeK> Kyral: i tried rm -r /directory that i wanted to delete while i was in the directory but it said that it isnt a file or directory
[07:36] <concept10> joseph, also in that wiki, add repositories and then apt-get install streamtuner
[07:36] <djm62> glDaher: are you installing them from synaptic, the official ubuntu packages?
[07:37] <Dj_AlTeK> Kyral: nevermind i got it to work
[07:37] <glDaher> no downloaded from nvidia
[07:37] <glDaher> they were released today if you don't know
[07:37] <glDaher> some .run file for sh
[07:38] <concept10> Remog, what system do you have?
[07:38] <nate__> new nvidia drivers are out?
[07:38] <glDaher> yep today
[07:38] <nate__> sweeeeeet
[07:38] <Remog> lol well
[07:38] <nate__> are they actually better though?
[07:38] <Remog> I have this Dell "older" laptop that needs an OS
[07:38] <Remog> lol
[07:38] <nate__> Remog, DOS 6.0
[07:39] <nate__> Remog, nice and solid
[07:39] <Remog> um.
[07:39] <ar> hi all
[07:39] <Remog> no.
[07:39] <glDaher> freedos re
[07:39] <concept10> Remog, what processor/ram
[07:39] <ar> I'm a linux user for 3 yrs
[07:39] <Suepahfly> can i install *.debn packages in ubuntu?
[07:39] <aramiil> bonjour  tous
[07:39] <ar> But a complete newbie to irc
[07:39] <Remog> PII 266 mmx/64mb
[07:39] <Remog> prolly not eh?
[07:39] <ar> yes u can suepahfly
[07:40] <ar> by dpkg -i <package name>
[07:40] <nate__> Suepahfly, you could, i believe, but if its not ubuntu-targeted, its at your own risk
[07:40] <ar> true
[07:40] <Suepahfly> how?, i'm a linux noob
[07:40] <Seveas> Suepahfly, yes, but be careful with randomly downloaded things
[07:40] <ar> Risk is urs
[07:40] <glDaher> guys. if my driver installation failed and I turned out without X whats the command to install the current drivers from official mirrors?
[07:40] <concept10> Remog, it will probaby work, although ram is very low
[07:40] <Seveas> Suepahfly, first look whether what you want is in the ubuntu repositories
[07:40] <Remog> yea..
[07:40] <Remog> I want more ram for this
[07:40] <jez> does the fglrx module in fglrx-kernel-source only compile against kernels distributed by ubuntu or something? because i'm having problems compiling it for a kernel from kernel.org
[07:40] <Suepahfly> i use synaptic for that right?
[07:40] <Remog> Im not complaining I got it for free
[07:40] <Remog> lol
[07:41] <Seveas> Suepahfly, correct
[07:41] <ar> glDeher, just try bringing down the bit depth and see if X will work
[07:41] <djm62> Remog: I've run gnome 2 on those specs...still waiting on the start menu to open, in fact ;)
[07:41] <joseph> Ah, now that I added the universe and multiverse... there is a whole lot more PROGRAMS! sweet!
[07:41] <Seveas> Suepahfly, enable universe and multiverse to make the full set of packages available
[07:41] <joseph> Thanks concept10
[07:41] <Remog> djm62 haha
[07:41] <Seveas> lol joseph :)
[07:41] <marcel__> jez, try to get the drivers from ati.com, they must work must every kernel-source
[07:41] <Remog> alright thanks
[07:41] <Suepahfly> kvirc is not in the repository, but i do have the *.deb packageor is it better to compile?
[07:41] <joseph> lol... that is funny. I just did that.
[07:42] <djm62> Remog: but if you use fluxbox and some light applications, it's usable, and firefox works
[07:42] <ar> anyone here has tried any major games on linux?
[07:42] <joseph> Now I can pop on apache and make this thing serve pages...
[07:42] <Seveas> Suepahfly, kvirc *IS* in the repositories
[07:42] <Remog> djm62: k cool
[07:42] <zerokills> ar, what games?
[07:42] <glDaher> quake3 yes ar
[07:42] <jez> marcel__: thing is i'd prefer to use the ubuntu package if possible so it can be kept up-to-date easier
[07:42] <Seveas> Suepahfly, you need to enable universe
[07:42] <Remog> bye all
[07:42] <Seveas> read the following:
[07:42] <djm62> Ar: quake3 and UT2k3
[07:42] <Seveas> Suepahfly: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:42] <Seveas> Suepahfly: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[07:42] <ar> cool. demo versions? gl?
[07:43] <joseph> So, does the base ubuntu have an ftp server?
[07:43] <marcel__> jez, but you take a kernel-source from kernel.org ;)
[07:43] <zerokills> ar: you need cedega to emulate windows games
[07:43] <ar> How are they? Smooth?
[07:43] <ar> o i c
[07:43] <djm62> Ar: true to both in my case...I'm not a serious gamer
[07:43] <glDaher> full version with dedicated server on tty1 myself :)
[07:43] <Bramme> how can i activate the MP3 ripping function in GooBox ?
[07:43] <Suepahfly> ok thanks
[07:43] <Seveas> marcel__, please stop giving people bad advise!
[07:43] <jez> marcel__: i know, but i'm wondering is that the problem?
[07:43] <ar> so glDaher what's ur config and how smooth did they run?
[07:44] <jez> marcel__: i'm getting an error from make about a missing makefile
[07:44] <Seveas> marcel__, kernel sources for ubuntu should be grabbed from ubuntu repos
[07:44] <Seveas> marcel__, and you should use make-kpkg to compile it
[07:44] <Burrito> Hi channel
[07:44] <Seveas> marcel__, any other way is very ill-advised on Ubuntu systems
[07:44] <concept10> Seveas, why not kpkg?
[07:44] <Seveas> marcel__, just like grabbing drivers from ati.com or nvidia.com
[07:44] <Burrito> hey i have a tv card, but i dont know where can i finf a software to use it
[07:44] <jez> Seveas: i don't think he meant that actually
[07:45] <macarthy> hi all
[07:45] <ar> hi macarthy
[07:45] <marcel__> seveas, im not giving the advice to use kernel-source from kernel.org, but he did and wants to kwow, if he can use the fglrx-packege to compile the kernel-module against it...
[07:45] <glDaher> ar: as for the dedicated server, two of my friends hang in it sometimes and I never notice
[07:45] <djm62> Burrito: google the model name and linux is usually the best start
[07:45] <jez> Seveas: he was saying i took one from kernel.org, which is true. but i did build it with make-kpkg. i just couldn't be bothered to download another one.
[07:45] <Burrito> ok
[07:45] <Burrito> thanks
[07:45] <macarthy> anyone tell me whats wrong with this source  in sources.list W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:45] <glDaher> ar: but sometimes the phone rings "stop your downloading YO, we're playing a game here"
[07:45] <glDaher> ;)
[07:46] <Seveas> macarthy, try apr-get update
[07:46] <glDaher> and fully smooth
[07:46] <Seveas> macarthy, try apt-get update
[07:46] <ar> ok cool
[07:46] <ar> What's ur pc config, glDaher?
[07:46] <Dj_AlTeK> hey is there any free c compliers for linux??
[07:46] <Seveas> marcel__, ok, sorry that I misunderstood it
[07:46] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, lol of course :)
[07:46] <marcel__> seveas, when u use a kernel-source from kernel.org, you can the drv from nvidia.com too...i guess, its messed up already ;)
[07:46] <jez> Dj_AlTeK: gcc
[07:46] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, aptitude install build-essential
[07:47] <Seveas> marcel__, hehe :)
[07:47] <macarthy> ok a synaptic issue !  thanks Seveas
[07:47] <glDaher> ar: nothing super, 2.8ghz p4 1024 ram + nvidia geforce fx 5750
[07:47] <Seveas> better start over and use correct sources and drivers ;)
[07:47] <Seveas> macarthy, the reload button in synaptic should do the same trick
[07:47] <ar> Whoa! That's beyond super for me!
[07:47] <squinn> If my Breezy didn't majorly break yesterday [it didn't, any small error was my fault] , it will today.
[07:47] <marcel__> seveas, jez, but i've got the feeling a missing makefile shouldn't be matter of kernel-sources
[07:47] <Dj_AlTeK> seveas: do i run that in root terminal?
[07:47] <ar> i'M using a p3 1 Ghz with 256 MB ram.
[07:47] <ar> Of course not a gamer
[07:47] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, yes
[07:47] <ar> And its a laptop!!:(
[07:48] <Seveas> hehe
[07:48] <glDaher> ar: oh, am not a serious gamer either, I only play quake3 since 1999 :)
[07:48] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: thanx
[07:48] <ar> :)) Nice one
[07:48] <glDaher> thx
[07:48] <ar> I never played a full game of Quake or UT
[07:48] <ar> ok i do have a radeon tho
[07:48] <Seveas> And a crappy desktop: 900mhz amd and 128 MB and nvidia riva tnt2 :D
[07:49] <sknroiws_> :/
[07:49] <Kyral> Is there a SP Mode to Quake?
[07:49] <sknroiws_> I have a nvidia riva tnt2
[07:49] <glDaher> yes sp works fine for me
[07:49] <sknroiws_> Its in my closet
[07:49] <djm62> Kyral: yeah...I find the AI too clever by hald
[07:49] <ar> ok seveas what games have u played on linux?
[07:49] <Kyral> I meant the equake thing
[07:49] <Seveas> ar, supertux ;)
[07:49] <ar> fair enough
[07:49] <Kyral> Frozen-Bubble :P
[07:49] <ar> Keep it low.
[07:49] <sknroiws_> I play cs on linux :[
[07:49] <Kyral> Jedi Academy through Cedega :D
[07:49] <ar> What is cs?
[07:49] <sknroiws_> counter strike
[07:50] <sknroiws_> through cedega
[07:50] <Kyral> whats the site for equake again?
[07:50] <ar> hey, cool! JEdi acadmey?
[07:50] <ar> What config?
[07:50] <Kyral> Cedega :P
[07:50] <zerokills> ive played CS, DOD, AvP2, and a few others on linux
[07:50] <Kyral> or do you mean my system specs?
[07:50] <djm62> ar: scummvm gives you access to some great vintage adventure games
[07:50] <ar> But cedega is not free right? (not GNU GPL?)
[07:50] <Seveas> By the way: has anybody trued installing MSN Messenger 7 with wine/cedega? If so, does it work properly? It's the only thing I need to get my wife to use Linux :)
[07:50] <TokenBad> I have played warcraft 3 on linux
[07:50] <zerokills> yea, cedega costs money
[07:50] <Kyral> ar: 5 bucks a month
[07:51] <ar> Scrap MSN messenger
[07:51] <Kyral> but worth it :D
[07:51] <sknroiws_> Let me try to install seveas
[07:51] <ar> Usr Instant Messenger
[07:51] <djm62> Seveas: I remember it dying on wine :(
[07:51] <zerokills> definitely worth it
[07:51] <ar> that comes with KDE or GNOME
[07:51] <Kyral> GAIM :D
[07:51] <ar> GAIM
[07:51] <Seveas> djm62, /me too
[07:51] <Seveas> but maybe cedega is better
[07:51] <Kyral> zerokills: Have you gotten BF1942 to work?
[07:51] <xxtreme_> bob2= downloaded fetchmailconf, do I need to configure postfix as well?
[07:51] <glDaher> I hate something about games, they allow you to download executables, but you must have winblows to install them at the first place
[07:51] <zerokills> Kyral, nope
[07:51] <ar> oh i c
[07:51] <jez> Seveas: have you tried letting her use Gaim or Kopete first?
[07:51] <djm62> Seveas: install gaim for windows to help adjustment?
[07:51] <glDaher> gaim here too... #1
[07:51] <Kyral> I think my CD1 is scratched to hell
[07:51] <Seveas> jez, yes, she didn't like it
[07:52] <ar> i love gaim
[07:52] <Seveas> well, she wants the handwriting thingie
[07:52] <ar> And i despise commercial stuff
[07:52] <Kyral> starts copying stuff, then when it gets to the registration stuff, it dies
[07:52] <Seveas> and the personal message thing
[07:52] <ar> Even if it comes free
[07:52] <jez> Seveas: nor do my family - "what? you mean you can't do 'winks'? that sucks!"
[07:52] <Seveas> something new with msn 7
[07:52] <Seveas> jez, indeed
[07:52] <Seveas> and buzzes
[07:53] <goldfish_> anyone speak russian here?
[07:53] <Seveas> #ubuntu-ru perhaps?
[07:53] <jez> Seveas: gaim's inability to do such things is one of it's nicest features in my eyes
[07:53] <ar> Hey u can do winks on GAIM.
[07:53] <sknroiws_> I just installed it
[07:53] <goldfish_> hmmm
[07:53] <sknroiws_> I got an error
[07:53] <sknroiws_> :/
[07:53] <xxtreme_> goldfish_ whats up
[07:53] <Seveas> jez, I agree with you :)
[07:53] <ar> Smileys work great of all types
[07:53] <xry> is it possible to burn ubuntu on DVD?
[07:53] <Seveas> but she doesn't :)
[07:53] <jez> ar: you can?
[07:53] <anacron> xry: yes
[07:53] <ar> o i agree
[07:53] <djm62> I wish smiley themes were more standard and reliable
[07:53] <Seveas> xry, there is a DVD image, so I guess you can :)
[07:53] <xry> hm
[07:53] <ar> GAIM is nice and simple
[07:54] <goldfish_> xxtreme_: would you mind telling me what is said in a webpage for me? its in russian....
[07:54] <ar> And fast
[07:54] <Danar> anyone know any fat32 recovery software
[07:54] <Danar> ?
[07:54] <ar> And customisable
[07:54] <cassie> whats a good music player for ubuntu
[07:54] <jez> ar: not emoticon winks
[07:54] <Seveas> beep-media-player cassie
[07:54] <ar> Danar try EasyRecovery
[07:54] <Kyral> XMMS
[07:54] <cassie> where can i get that?
[07:54] <goldfish_> cplay
[07:54] <xry> i can only find "ubuntu-5.04-dvd-i386.list" on the FTP
[07:54] <djm62> cassie: rhythmbox is nicely integrated, once you've got the gstreamer plugins
[07:54] <ar> Ok, fine. agreed
[07:54] <Seveas> Kyral, beep == gtk2 port of xmms
[07:54] <xxtreme_> goldfish send it
[07:54] <cassie> where do i get them
[07:54] <Kyral> sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[07:54] <glDaher> Danar : ontrack easy recovery
[07:54] <goldfish_> xxtreme_: http://hacked-host.nm.ru/nahui.JPG
[07:54] <Seveas> cassie, use synaptic
[07:54] <Danar> anything for linux?
[07:55] <xxtreme_> goldfish_ brb
[07:55] <Kyral> Seveas: Yes, but can I use my XMMS themes in Beep? :P
[07:55] <Seveas> yes!
[07:55] <ar> Try pheonix recovery for ext2/3
[07:55] <cassie> how do i play beep
[07:55] <ar> It's very efficient
[07:55] <cassie> well use it
[07:55] <Seveas> oh: ubuntulinux.nl/files/4Humans.tgz <-- ubuntu theme :)
[07:55] <Seveas> cassie, it'll be in the applications menu
[07:55] <glDaher> Danar: I'll make one with in a year :)
[07:55] <ar> Danar u got the message? Pheonix recovery for linux
[07:56] <glDaher> ar he wants it for fat32/fat
[07:56] <afroman> Hi Ubuntu ppl
[07:56] <ar> U mean fat32 recovery based on linux?
[07:56] <cassie> hi
[07:56] <ar> No idea
[07:56] <vurdak> hi
[07:56] <vurdak> someone can help me?
[07:56] <concept10> http://www.sysresccd.org/
[07:57] <yccheok> hi, any wxWidgets and GTK+ user here? May I know ur comment on this both library cause I still survey which one I should use.
[07:57] <Danar> i need a linux program to recover a fat32 file system
[07:57] <glDaher> am making one, seriously ^^
[07:57] <vurdak> i've to convert a ape file into an ogg file
[07:57] <vurdak> how can i do that?
[07:57] <ar> Sounds good glDaher.
[07:57] <xry> if i want to "secure" wipe a harddrive, what is the command?
[07:57] <xry> in terminal
[07:57] <concept10> Danar, http://www.sysresccd.org/
[07:57] <Danar> glDaher: that's great... but i can't wait a year :/
[07:57] <ar> Do me a favour, please? glDaher? Can u email me when it's ready? I'm yaraju@yahoo.com
[07:57] <yccheok> hi, can I say wxWidget is just a wrapper to GTK+?
[07:57] <glDaher> yeah, and ntfs hopefully
[07:57] <afroman> can one what is on the screen of a Ubuntu PC through SSH
[07:57] <djm62> xry: wipe, iirc
[07:57] <Seveas> xry, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/yourdisk bs=1024 count=THE_SIZE_IN_KB
[07:58] <Seveas> yccheok, no :)
[07:58] <rronkiv> YAY i just installed ubuntu on my lappy!!!!!!!!!! wooohoo
[07:58] <djm62> Seveas: that's not "secure" in the paranoid sense
[07:58] <Kyral> Seveas: I switched to Beep. NICE!
[07:58] <ar> nope ssh is text based and doesn't allow X server to run
[07:58] <Seveas> yccheok, wxwidgets is a wrapper to the underlying widget-system
[07:58] <Seveas> there are wrappers for GTK, windows and QT
[07:58] <ar> Use vnc for remote graphics
[07:58] <Seveas> ar, ssh -X
[07:58] <thoreauputic> ar: erm.... ssh -X
[07:58] <cassie> gosh
[07:58] <xry> djm62: when i tried wipe, it didn't work
[07:58] <glDaher> ar you're not using yahoo msnger, no?
[07:58] <Seveas> or else freenx
[07:58] <bddebian> x-forwarding on ssh
[07:59] <Danar> concept10: i think i downloaded that once... IIRC i couldn't boot from it :/
[07:59] <cassie> howcome when i try to place an mp3 beep freezes
[07:59] <Seveas> vnc is crappy :)
[07:59] <afroman> can one what is on the screen of a Ubuntu PC through SSH
[07:59] <ar> oh thanks seveas i didn't know that
[07:59] <yccheok> Seveas: oh, i thought in linux, wxWidget is build on the top of GTK+. whereas in Windows, it is built on WIN32 API
[07:59] <djm62> xry: you tried the program or the command wasn't found?
[07:59] <ar> and thoro too
[07:59] <Seveas> cassie, change the output plugin of beep to Esound
[07:59] <cassie> how?
[07:59] <xry> or i think so, but then i wrote "wipe" in terminal on my computer in oslo (im using ubuntu as OS there) it didnt work
[07:59] <ar> i'm usin pppoe on Ubuntu in India
[08:00] <djm62> xry: install the package "wipe", then the command will be available
[08:00] <glDaher> Ar oh btw, it shall be ready with in 3-4 months..
[08:00] <afroman> From a linux computer U can connect to another Linux PC,right? can one what is on the screen of a Ubuntu PC through SSH
[08:00] <ar> Hey, by the way, how many of u got copies of Ubuntu shipped direct from Africa?
[08:00] <djm62> xry: the secure way to do it is to unmount the hard drive, then run wipe on the /dev entry.  if it's your root filesystem, you'll need a bootdisk or livecd
[08:00] <Seveas> afroman, you want a complete remote desktop or just running graphical applications on the remote PC?
[08:01] <xry> hm
[08:01] <Kyral> Cassie: Right click on Beep, select preferences, go to plugins, click the Output tab, and select esound from the dropdown
[08:01] <xry> i have no idea how to mount
[08:01] <afroman> Seveas, what do U mean???
[08:01] <xry> *unmount
[08:01] <Seveas> afroman, there are several ways to get graphical output from a remote computer
[08:01] <Seveas> single applications can simply be run with ssh -X
[08:02] <Seveas> for a full-blown remote desktop you need freenx
[08:02] <mjr> (well, don't actually need, but it might be easier, dunno)
[08:02] <afroman> Seveas, single applications...???
[08:02] <thoreauputic> Seveas: not strictly true: for instance you can run xinit, then ssh -X exec gnome-session or whatever
[08:03] <Seveas> afroman, for instance simply running mozilla on the remote pc
[08:03] <mjr> yep, what thore said
[08:03] <djm62> xry: how much does this need to be erased?  if you do "wipe normalfilename" it will be reasonably gone.  if you are being chased by well-funded .govs, set the drive alight.  if you just want to re-sell the hard drive, there are boot floppys which will nuke it for you
[08:03] <Seveas> thoreauputic, well, i'd recommend freenx though
[08:03] <mjr> or just run an Xnest and the session on it
[08:03] <glDaher> btw guys, I have a problem with sound that I am still unable to fix... it is either xmms to get sound or totem
[08:03] <thoreauputic> Seveas: sure
[08:03] <Seveas> the responsivenes of freenx is just great
[08:03] <Seveas> glDaher, set the ouypuy plugin of XMMS to esound :)
[08:03] <ar> bye all will be back later
[08:04] <xry> i'm just sending my harddrive back to the shop where i got it from, but i don't want a normal format, i want to get the data erased so they can't recover it
[08:04] <djm62> xry: http://dban.sourceforge.net/
[08:04] <zerokills> hehe
[08:04] <afroman> Seveas, could U plz speak a language I can understand
[08:04] <jez> afroman: for example you could ssh to your remote compter, then run xterm and have it appear on your local computer screen instead of the remote screen
[08:04] <jez> afroman: but do you want something like remote desktop in windows?
[08:05] <Kyral> Seveas: Why are you advocating ESD?
[08:05] <jez> afroman: did you see what i said?
[08:05] <justin> afroman: could YOU PLEASE speak a language everyone else can understand?
[08:05] <Kyral> piping stuff through ALSA is better
[08:05] <thoreauputic> Kyral: he isn't - it's just the easiest way for people to get beep/xmms working
[08:05] <djm62> xry: you want that disk, and back up the stuff that's personal to you on something removable beforehand
[08:05] <Kyral> oh,,
[08:05] <Kyral> lol
[08:06] <xry> i've done that already :D
[08:06] <Gskillet> Does anyone know how to access Powersave settings for Ubuntu on a laptop?  During installation it said Powersave settings not available, but I would like to get them working b/c my laptop decharges fast with Ubuntu
[08:06] <Seveas> Kyral, esd is the default on hoary
[08:06] <afroman> jez> I want it for Linux and windows
[08:06] <Kyral> Killing ESD is like the first thing I do when I reinstall :P
[08:06] <xry> but the boot and destroy program looked good
[08:06] <Seveas> so for hoary I advocate ESD
[08:06] <xry> do you have any experience with it?
[08:06] <Seveas> for breezy it'll be ALSA and dmix :)
[08:06] <mjr> Seveas, it will? Goodie.
[08:07] <Seveas> esd will indeed be ditched
[08:07] <afroman> Jez> my laptop has Debian and Win XP
[08:07] <Seveas> (thank $DEITY!)
[08:07] <mjr> Seveas, except will it also recognize sound cards that can mix in hardware and not bother with dmis on those?
[08:07] <thoreauputic> good riddance
[08:07] <mjr> dmix
[08:07] <djm62> xry: nope, thankfully.  last time my hard drive was nuked, it was with MS's proprietary solution ;)
[08:07] <Seveas> mjr ENOIDEA
[08:07] <Kyral> lol
[08:07] <afroman> Jez> and my stationaty has Ubuntu
[08:07] <Seveas> see udu.wiki.ubuntu.com for the full spec
[08:07] <mjr> 'k
[08:07] <Kyral> Thank $DEITY indeed :D
[08:08] <mjr> oo, "possibility of changing the default sound device", nice :)
[08:08] <Kyral> Am I the only one that cannot wait for Breezy?
[08:08] <xry> djm62: What should i choose then? Boot and Destroy or Wipe?
[08:09] <Seveas> Kyral, no :)
[08:09] <Kyral> or Colony 2?
[08:09] <Seveas> I can't wait to have it either
[08:09] <Kyral> when Colony 2 is released I'm gonna upgrade :D
[08:09] <djm62> xry: boot and destroy...it's not a partition, you really want the entire disk empty with extreme prejudice
[08:09] <^rob^> Isn't Colony2 over due?
[08:09] <Kyral> I think so
[08:09] <Seveas> ^rob^, no
[08:10] <djm62> beagle, sweet sweet beagle
[08:10] <mjr> Sweet, "Enable dmix in ALSA by default for known-to-work cards (requires black/white list)" - one would assume that mixing cards would be appropriately listed or the list could be amended easily
[08:10] <Seveas> Colony 1 was released *before* the 3 major transitions started
[08:10] <Seveas> Colony 2 will be released *after* they have finished
[08:10] <Kyral> if I nuke my system with Breezy though, I have /home on a separate partition :D
[08:10] <rebug> Installing Ubuntu 5.04 on an old iMac 333, I get through the installer and it reboots. Right after boot I get: loading kernel... /pc@80000000/mac-io@10/ide@20000/disk@0:3,/boot/vmlinux: Input/output error. This is my first ever Linux install so I'm kind of wondering what I do now.
[08:11] <glDaher> Seveas: damn you! worked like MAGIC !! w00t!
[08:11] <xry> djm62: so after the "boot and destroy", the harddrive is as good as new? Like when it came from the factory?
[08:11] <Seveas> glDaher :D
[08:11] <Seveas> rebug, are you sure your imac supports linux?
[08:11] <dr_willis> I got Ubuntu on my ImacDV.
[08:11] <pocho> Hello motherfuckers
[08:11] <afroman> jez> are you there???
[08:11] <rebug> Seveas: I've read nothing to suggest otherwise.
[08:12] <Kyral> Hooray for ops!
[08:12] <bddebian> rebug: Is it booting with yaboot?
[08:12] <nalioth> Seveas: you missed pochos performance yesterday
[08:12] <Seveas> nalioth, I heard about it
[08:12] <Gskillet> Does anyone know how to access Powersave settings for Ubuntu on a laptop?  During installation it said Powersave settings not available, but I would like to get them working b/c my laptop decharges fast with Ubuntu
[08:12] <djm62> xry: I expect that from the factory the hdd is full of zeros.  B+N will fill it with pseudorandom bits.  I expect it has the option to zero it afterward
[08:12] <Seveas> that's why I gave him the kick-o-matic service :)
[08:12] <rebug> bddebian: yep. yaboot 1.3.13
[08:13] <xry> djm62: so it should be impossible to recover?
[08:13] <xxtreme_> goldfish_ for some strange reason I can't open that
[08:13] <djm62> xry: yes
[08:13] <bddebian> rebug: Google around a little.  You may have to tweak OpenFirmware
[08:13] <jez> afroman: take a look at this: http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Networks/Using_VNC_with_Linux.html
[08:13] <Kyral> what about the nuke command?
[08:13] <xry> thank you very much! :)
[08:13] <xxtreme_> site
[08:13] <jez> afroman: that's not for ubuntu though
[08:13] <Seveas> nalioth, were you around when it happened?
[08:13] <goldfish_> xxtreme_: hmmm, weird.
[08:13] <thenuke> the nuke commands you
[08:13] <goldfish_> xxtreme_: no matter so. thanks anyways.
[08:13] <xxtreme_> really
[08:13] <nalioth> xry: the only way to surely delete info is to smash the HD into pieces with a large hammer
[08:14] <^rob^> Seveas: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule doesn't seem to have any colony release dates on it ...
[08:14] <jez> afroman: i've not used it before myself
[08:14] <xxtreme_> i'll keep trying fish
[08:14] <thenuke> what is 'nuke' -command supposed to be? I dont have it
[08:14] <xry> but then i won't get a new one
[08:14] <nalioth> Seveas: yes, i was unfortunately here
[08:14] <Seveas> ^rob^, correct, colony CD's are an extra feature. They will be released 'when possible'
[08:14] <^rob^> Hrmm, Sounders were released on a set schedule though
[08:14] <nalioth> xry, find a local institution with a large powerful magnet
[08:15] <^rob^> or at least there was a Wiki page that had dates in advance, it didn't happen that way, but still...
[08:15] <xxtreme_> goldfish_ yesterday you told me about irssi i got it and its better then kvirc
[08:16] <xxtreme_> goldfish_ thanks
[08:16] <omegadc> hello everyone
[08:16] <goldfish_> xxtreme_: no problem, irssi rocks !
[08:16] <GNULinuxer> bob2> how can i stop the ntp clock syncing at boot?
[08:16] <jez> irssi rules!
[08:17] <omegadc> how can i install gift+apollon on ubuntu
[08:17] <Seveas> GNULinuxer, update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove
[08:17] <^rob^> Seveas: I was upe late last night, am I imagining things though? I do seem to remember Sounder being more or less scheduled
[08:17] <xry> i have another question. right now i have two harddrives, one SATA (160GB) and an removeable. The 160GB is one 50GB for winxp and the rest for mp3s and stuff. if i add a 40GB ATA disk, can Grub boot both WinXP (On the SATA disk) and Ubuntu (On the ATA disk) without any problem?
[08:17] <xry> so i just choose which OS to start when the computer boots
[08:17] <GNULinuxer> Seveas> thanks
[08:18] <nalioth> xry: just add the parameter to the grub (on your master disk, right?)
[08:18] <Seveas> ^rob^, well, in the late stage of development the Sounders are easier to realize
[08:18] <Seveas> not in this early stage
[08:18] <dr_willis> Xry my system bios lets me hit F10 and it asks me what drive to boot. :P i dident even need to mess with grub.
[08:18] <xry> not mine
[08:18] <djm62> dr_willis: good hint
[08:18] <rebug> bddebian: only thing google turns up is someone with the same problem, and nobody had answers :(
[08:18] <^rob^> Yeah, I understand, I was just kinda thinking that there had always been at least a goal
[08:18] <xry> i have no idea how i add parameter
[08:18] <[1] rronkiv> hi
[08:18] <dr_willis> xry,  Serial ATA = xp. ide drive = linux. :) that way xp cant mess with the boot loader.
[08:18] <bddebian> xry: It can be done, but sometimes XP and Grub can be ugly
[08:18] <rronkivx> has anyone else had a error while installing ubuntu?
[08:19] <xry> ;(
[08:19] <jez> xry: only ever tried with one disk myself, but i'm sure the answer is yes
[08:19] <bddebian> rebug: Sorry, I haven't tried a Smash-n-toss with Ubuntu yet, just Debian
[08:19] <bphan> has anybody install Enlightenment?
[08:20] <Seveas> xry, the answer is a definite yes
[08:20] <jez> xry: just needs an entry like 'kernel (hd0,1)/boot/whatever' where (hdx,y) is hard disk and partition
[08:20] <Gskillet> Does anyone know how to access Powersave settings for Ubuntu on a laptop?  During installation it said Powersave settings not available, but I would like to get them working b/c my laptop decharges fast with Ubuntu
[08:20] <xry> hm
[08:20] <jez> i think
[08:20] <Seveas> xry, but I don't know if grub will automagically install correctly when you mix ATA and SATA
[08:20] <Seveas> but it's easy to do manually
[08:20] <xry> i install ubuntu first, and then you can guide me from there :) (with the configuration and stuff)
[08:21] <bphan> "ERROR: Enlightenment_remote cannot set up the IPC socket."  = does anyboyd know what that means?
[08:21] <afroman> Seveas, where can I get freenx
[08:21] <Seveas> afroman, look at backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php for a sources.list entry
[08:22] <mbruemmer> hello having can anybody help with   jackd?
[08:23] <x_or> mbruemmer:  What do you need help with?
[08:23] <Seveas> with jackd ;)
[08:23] <bddebian> doh
[08:24] <mbruemmer> how to start jackd
[08:24] <mbruemmer> its not running
[08:24] <x_or> Use qjackctl, easier interface.
[08:24] <omegadc> alguem do brasil?
[08:24] <mbruemmer> my rosegarden cant connect to midi
[08:25] <Seveas> omegadc, we speak english in here..
[08:25] <ttyS0> hello, people. firstly sorry for bad english. i have  a question. of course i'm using ubuntu and has internet access via dialup (USR 56K Faxmodem (Sportster) ext.). i've installed gnome-ppd, configured it BUT, it can't initialize modem. i trie dto edit ~/.wvdial.conf but it rewrites it each time before initializing. so what to do?
[08:25] <mbruemmer> omegadc: #ubuntu-es
[08:25] <nosotras> hi people, please anybody can guide me with a sound problem in ubuntu?
[08:25] <ttyS0> the problem is in ATZ string
[08:25] <x_or> sou carioca mais ou menos...
[08:25] <nosotras> i don't hear any sound
[08:26] <mbruemmer> x_or: my rosegarden cant connect to midi
[08:26] <Seveas> nosotras, plug in your speakers ;)
[08:26] <x_or> mbruemmer:  I run it from command line with "jackd -d alsa -d hw -are 44100 -p 2048 -n 2&"
[08:26] <Seveas> nosotras, no sound at all, or do you heat the gnome system sounds?
[08:26] <djm62> ttyS0: you know for sure the correct configuration?
[08:26] <x_or> mbruemmer:  I think qjackctl is what you should try, have you tried this?
[08:26] <Seveas> hear*
[08:26] <nosotras> not sound at all
[08:26] <ttyS0> djm62: i think so
[08:26] <mbruemmer> is it for all archirectures?? having an ibook
[08:27] <nosotras> but
[08:27] <nosotras> it's a computer to a friend that i have to give her this night
[08:27] <mbruemmer> x_or:is it for all archirectures?? having an ibook
[08:27] <x_or> mbruemmer:  Hmm, I know jackd runs on OSX, but not sure if qjackctl does, probably not...
[08:27] <ttyS0> djm62: it send ATZ string to modem and it replies "!z"
[08:27] <ttyS0> *sends
[08:27] <djm62> ttyS0: manually, you can get wvdial to connect to the ISP (with or without fully networking)?
[08:27] <Seveas> nosotras, what type of soundcard do you have..?
[08:27] <nosotras> windows works fine, but i want to install ubuntu to she can test it
[08:27] <^rob^> what package contains aclocal?
[08:27] <nosotras> i'm sure she is going to use it
[08:27] <ttyS0> djm62: yes
[08:27] <nosotras> via
[08:27] <mbruemmer> x_or: i only want to use ubuntu
[08:28] <nalioth> seveas where is the old wiki page? the one iwth all the articles linked on it?
[08:28] <Seveas> nalioth, hmm..? which one do you mean?
[08:28] <jer_> I have a question about ubuntu that I hope someone can answer for me.  The question is in regard to the software update icon in the top panel.  I do not wish to have it display that I need linux-image-2.6.10-35-386.  I have tried using apt methods of ignoring this packages with dpkg but have failed so far.
[08:28] <x_or> mbruemmer:  But, you are not right now?  You are running OSX or Ubuntu?  I am confused.
[08:28] <Suepahfly> is there a way to reload fstab without rebooting?
[08:28] <nosotras> via8237 with the chip C-Media CMI9761
[08:28] <mbruemmer> x_or: ubuntu
[08:28] <jer_> Can anyone tell me how to get the software update prgram to ignore the linux-image package and tell me that everything else is ok?
[08:28] <Seveas> Suepahfly, of course :)
[08:28] <x_or> Suepahfly:  mount -a, I think, automounts everything.
[08:28] <Seveas> Suepahfly, have you added something or just changed?
[08:29] <nalioth> Seveas: there used to be a linke from the main wiki page to "user documentation". On the userdoc page i could 'find' words and see the link to the article
[08:29] <ttyS0> and.....
[08:29] <Seveas> x_or, unless you changed things...
[08:29] <nalioth> Seveas: i don't see teh userdoc page anymore
[08:29] <Seveas> nalioth, UserDocumentation
[08:29] <Dj_AlTeK> hey once i finished compiling Wine, it asks me to sign in as root. when i enter the root password it says its incorrect. but wine itself is built i just need to install it
[08:29] <Seveas> or look at the wiki homepage for a link ;)
[08:29] <x_or> mbruemmer:  OK, just run sudo apt-get install qjackctl
[08:29] <nalioth> Seveas: i'm there, but its not like it once was
[08:29] <nosotras> well, nobidy can help me ?
[08:29] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, why didn't you simply use the ubuntu package
[08:29] <djm62> ttyS0: try installing gnome-ppp. It's more customisable than the gnome networking dialogue
[08:30] <Dj_AlTeK> cuz i couldnt get it to work
[08:30] <nalioth> Seveas: i was gonna look for the sound problem
[08:30] <Seveas> nalioth, the entire parenting system has been abandoned, so no page has the tree of children anymore
[08:30] <ttyS0> djm62: lol. read higher. i've installed gnome-ppp but have problems with initialization
[08:30] <nalioth> Seveas: well rats!
[08:30] <jer_> By now my question has scrolled off the screen. :  The question is in regard to the software update icon in the top panel.  I do not wish to have it display that I need linux-image-2.6.10-35-386.  I have tried using apt methods of ignoring this packages with dpkg but have failed so far  Can anyone tell me how to get the software update prgram to ignore the linux-image package and tell me that everything else is ok?
[08:30] <Seveas> nalioth, the wiki has a search function :)
[08:30] <Gskillet> Does anyone know how to access Powersave settings for Ubuntu on a laptop?  During installation it said Powersave settings not available, but I would like to get them working b/c my laptop decharges fast with Ubuntu
[08:30] <Dj_AlTeK> when i right clicked on a win32 application i looked under Run Using Other Application and wine wasnt there, and on top of that I want to get Cedega too
[08:30] <Seveas> jer_: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[08:30] <PDani> hi
[08:30] <nalioth> Seveas: i'm not impressed with the search function (i've used it)
[08:31] <Seveas> jer_, and a word of addvise: do not use breezy...
[08:31] <jer_> Seveas: I assumed that nobody saw it.  It happens quite often.
[08:31] <PDani> how can i change the theme of unlock dialog of xscreensaver? (I'm using xfce4.2)
[08:31] <Seveas> jer_, why would you ignore it in the first place?
[08:31] <jer_> Seveas ... what do you mean by "do not use breezy"
[08:31] <Seveas> jer_, that kernel is only available in breezy, not in hoary
[08:31] <nalioth> jer_: breezy does not work at this time
[08:31] <jer_> seveas: I built my own kernel.  I do not want the linux-image.
[08:31] <djm62> ttyS0: oh, damn.  you could add a launcher to the gnome panel to run the wvdial command that you know is working, as a workaround
[08:32] <nalioth> jer_: unless you are a developer and have a spare machine Just For Breezy, don't use it
[08:32] <mbruemmer> x_or: -this is e.g the output of your line above :~$ Unknownage with option 'a'   but i will try now apt with the hop that someting is available for ppc
[08:32] <jer_> actually it says new version 2.6.10-34.2
[08:32] <glDaher> Gskillet: I guess it is in the screensaver config dialog in GNOME
[08:32] <ttyS0> ok, ty :)
[08:32] <jer_> but i use 2.6.11.12
[08:32] <Seveas> jer_, ah ok, well afaik there is no way to ignore it except for removing all ubuntu kernels
[08:32] <jer_> I build my own kernel
[08:32] <nalioth> Seveas: is there a list of all articles?
[08:32] <xxtreme> goldfish_ is there anyway to get sounds in irssi
[08:32] <Gskillet> glDaher ok ill look
[08:32] <Seveas> nalioth, there is AllPages afaik
[08:32] <nalioth> Seveas: thx
[08:32] <djm62> ttyS0: it sounds like a flaw in the software: a polite email to the developers might be an idea too
[08:32] <jer_> Seveas: there is a way with apt-get upgrade to ignore packages.
[08:33] <Seveas> jer_, well, pinning it to the current version will work
[08:33] <nalioth> Seveas: there is an 'allpages' but it doesnt do anything except invite you to build it
[08:33] <Seveas> :|
[08:33] <jer_> Seveas: do you know of a web page of how to do that or can you tell me how to do it easily enough ?
[08:33] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[08:34] <ttyS0> djm62 but i think i've asked question correctly :)
[08:34] <nalioth> well back to work (the phone never stops ringing)
[08:34] <Seveas> :)
[08:34] <Captain> hi
[08:34] <djm62> ttyS0: yes, absolutely! not your fault at all
[08:34] <Seveas> nalioth_wrkn, it's TitleIndex
[08:35] <Captain> say, I'm writing a wiki and I want to get straight.  Does Gnome's burner utility make bootable CDs?
[08:35] <drrk> hi
[08:35] <djm62> ttyS0: actually...gnome-ppp setup dialogue allows you to make custom init strings
[08:36] <drrk> is there something like debootstrap for ubuntu?
[08:36] <Seveas> drrk, yes: debootstrap :)
[08:36] <ttyS0> djm62: yes, i know about this feature, BUT...it starts from Init2 and there isn't "Init" string where ATZ is located :)
[08:37] <drrk> i mean to install ubuntu, not debian - if thats what you mean where can i get it from?
[08:37] <Seveas> drrk, you can install ubuntu with debootstrap
[08:37] <drrk> ah cool
[08:37] <afroman> Seveas> where can I get freenx
[08:37] <Seveas> just use archive.ubuntu.com and hoary as parameters
[08:38] <Seveas> afroman, look at backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php for a sources.list entry
[08:38] <Seveas> drrk, like: debootstrap hoary ./hoary-chroot http://archive.ubuntu.com
[08:39] <rpj911> little Linux steps... How do you path over to My Downloads when on CLI?
[08:39] <Kyral> cd
[08:39] <Kyral> assuming its in your home directory
[08:39] <Seveas> My\ Downloads or "My Downloads"
[08:39] <drrk> thanks Seveas
[08:39] <djm62> ttyS0: I /think/ that ATZ is resetting your modem, so it doesn't matter what init1 is
[08:40] <Kyral> cd ~/My\ Downloads
[08:40] <rpj911> the blank in the name is causeing problems ... I'll try the slash thanks
[08:40] <djm62> I'm looking at a manual now, but I am sketchy on this: can anyone correct me on that?
[08:40] <ttyS0> djm62 my modem can't recognize that string. there'
[08:40] <ttyS0> *there's a problem
[08:40] <Seveas> rpj911, tab completion can help you too ;)
[08:41] <Captain> anybody try to make bootable isos with gnome's burner software?
[08:41] <rpj911> yeah I like the tab thing even better
[08:41] <djjason> I have a problem with xmms....it happens very frequently that all of a sudden it stops playing a song and I have to press play again and start from the beginning...I dont know why....the only thing I can remember doing recently it enabeling multiple sounds at once. Any thoughts?
[08:41] <djm62> ttyS0: I think that you'd be best making a launcher on the panel for wvdial :-/
[08:41] <ttyS0> djm62, thank you for help, i'll follow your advice
[08:42] <xxtreme> afroman, you get that freenx yet?
[08:42] <fRanCo> I thought ubuntu had a livecd ..?
[08:42] <Seveas> fRanCo, it has
[08:42] <ttyS0> fRanCo, it has
[08:42] <Seveas> ttyS0, copycat ;)
[08:42] <fRanCo> really?
[08:42] <bddebian> fRanCo: it has :-)
[08:42] <Captain> djjason: have you enabled DMA?
[08:42] <fRanCo> whats the difference
[08:42] <dr_willis> Really!
[08:42] <dr_willis> :P
[08:42] <fRanCo> between the live cd and the full installation
[08:43] <fRanCo> cuz ubuntu is like 3 cds right?
[08:43] <ttyS0> Seveas: coincidence
[08:43] <dr_willis> ones a live cd.. :P the other runs the installer..
[08:43] <Seveas> fRanCo, well a livecd installs nothing but runs the complete system from CD
[08:43] <fRanCo> live cd only one?
[08:43] <Seveas> fRanCo, ubuntu is 1 cd
[08:43] <dr_willis> Install is 1 cd i think.
[08:43] <Seveas> the install cd is 1 cd
[08:43] <Seveas> the livecd is 1 cd
[08:43] <rpj911> would renaming My Downloads w/o the blank cause any problems?
[08:43] <fRanCo> so the live cd has everything that the installed ubuntu has?
[08:43] <Captain> install is one cd, ther eis a live CD, and know there is a live CD that doubles as an installer
[08:43] <Seveas> fRanCo, almost
[08:43] <Captain> All you need is just one CD
[08:44] <Captain> take your pick
[08:44] <fRanCo> ohh ok
[08:44] <Seveas> Captain, there is no live/install combo cd
[08:44] <Seveas> that's a DVD
[08:44] <Captain> sure, I'm sure I saw it.  Hold on ...
[08:44] <fRanCo> ohh dvd ok
[08:44] <Seveas> which also has all of main/restricted on it :)
[08:44] <justin> rpj911: ln -s /mnt/whatever/My\ Downloads ~/downloads
[08:44] <kira> hi all
[08:44] <Captain> seveas: http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/
[08:44] <Seveas> Captain, impossible, there exists no such *CD*
[08:44] <zerokills> hello kira
[08:44] <djjason> Captain: I have only enabled dma for the cdrom
[08:44] <Captain> look under Install/live DVD
[08:45] <afroman> jez> r U there???
[08:45] <Seveas> Captain, yes, it's a *DVD*
[08:45] <Seveas> not a *CD*
[08:45] <fRanCo> where can I see package listings or content listings of the livecd and the installation ubuntu  in order to make a comparison whats missing in the livecd that the real ubuntu installed system has .. =?
[08:45] <Seveas> major difference...
[08:45] <Seveas> fRanCo, mainly some binary-only drivers are missing
[08:45] <Captain> well, I stand corrected. They are not a set, regardless.  And you still only need one
[08:45] <Seveas> indeed :D
[08:46] <Seveas> chillywilly, can you throw dvd burners too :)
[08:46] <fRanCo> ok..  I just hope the ubuntu livecd works with vmware
[08:46] <fRanCo> that would be nice
[08:46] <chillywilly> no way jose
[08:46] <Seveas> fRanCo, it does not
[08:46] <xxtreme> afroman, u there
[08:46] <fRanCo> Seveas, you kiddin me?
[08:46] <Dj_AlTeK> hey can i download .rpm and install on ubuntu?
[08:46] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, sure
[08:46] <afroman> xxtreme> yes
[08:46] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: how?
[08:46] <kira> i have installed ubuntu an it is amazing now i am thinging about easy installing ubuntu. can i print out witch packages i have installed so i can easier reinstall my system?
[08:47] <justin> Dj_AlTeK: why would you want to do that?
[08:47] <xxtreme> afroman, you get freenx yet?
[08:47] <bddebian> Dj_AlTeK: You can try alien
[08:47] <Seveas> but please make absolutely sure that there are no .deb versions before installing an rpm
[08:47] <Kyral> Anyone know how to get MIDI emulation to work with Cedega so I can install Final Fantasy 8?
[08:47] <djm62> Dj_AlTeK: yeah, but you're better offvtrying to find a .deb
[08:47] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, alien -i file.rpm
[08:47] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: thanx
[08:47] <Captain> djjason: if it's a DMA problem that should been enough.
[08:47] <Gskillet> Does anyone know why Ubuntu can't play DVD's?  Im using totem and it wont play any DVD's because it Can't read encryption etc
[08:47] <Seveas> Gskillet, you need to install libdvdcss
[08:47] <kira> with alien -d file.rpm you build a debian package
[08:47] <djm62> !restricted
[08:47] <ubotu> I heard restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:48] <Gskillet> Seveas ok
[08:48] <fRanCo> has anyone here managed a way to boot the ubuntu live cd with vmware?
[08:48] <Seveas> look at what ubotu said too Gskillet
[08:48] <Gskillet> Seveas ok
[08:48] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: should i run alien -i file.rpm in root terminal or regular terminal?
[08:48] <Seveas> root
[08:48] <justin> Dj_AlTeK: you should run neither, and install whatever you are trying to install properly
[08:49] <Seveas> or use sudo :)
[08:49] <Seveas> justin, if there are no .deb files available, you have no oter choice...
[08:49] <fRanCo> Seveas, how come ubuntu live cd doesnt boot with vmware?
[08:49] <djm62> Seveas: would installing to /usr/local from source be preferable?
[08:49] <justin> Seveas: who says that are no .deb files available?
[08:49] <Seveas> fRanCo, no idea, never tried it. People just say that it doesn't work :)
[08:49] <Seveas> djm62, not really
[08:50] <mbruemmer> aconnectgui cant open sequencer
[08:50] <Seveas> justin, I asked him to make sure there are none.
[08:51] <fRanCo> Seveas, btw when running the ubuntu livecd , is it possible to change splash screen, gnome login manger theme etc ? or will it just "reset" by itself after restarting the xsever.. or is it some how locked to a unique setup ?
[08:52] <Seveas> the livecd does not touch the harddrive so it won't save a thing
[08:52] <WldRbit> W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing/main Packages
[08:52] <Seveas> livecd's really are just for trying out Ubuntu and for system recovery
[08:52] <fRanCo> doesnt it use ramdisk?
[08:52] <fRanCo> it should =)
[08:52] <WldRbit> Has anybody got that message? How would I solve that problem ?
[08:52] <Seveas> it does
[08:52] <WldRbit> It comes when I start Synaptic
[08:53] <Seveas> WldRbit, apt-get update. But you should NOT use marillat!
[08:53] <refuze2looze> Seveas, it uses your swap partition if you have one, otherwise uses RAM, so it is possible to save things
[08:53] <WldRbit> Seveas, what's marillat?
[08:53] <zukalk> why's marillat evil?
[08:53] <Seveas> WldRbit, that's what you are trying to use...
[08:53] <refuze2looze> not permanantly though
[08:53] <refuze2looze> ofcourse
[08:53] <Seveas> zukalk, debian has moved on after the hoary freeze, so you will get dependency issues
[08:53] <Seveas> hoary-extras from backports is better
[08:54] <skel_> hello
[08:54] <zukalk> Seveas, got it, thanks
[08:54] <Seveas> WldRbit, remove all lines with nerim.net from your sources.list please
[08:54] <WldRbit> morillat, the gnome synpatic package manager front ?
[08:54] <afroman> can U guys help me
[08:54] <Seveas> WldRbit, you have added these lines yourself, so you must know what it is
[08:55] <xxtreme> afroman= ask away
[08:55] <WldRbit> Seveas, I guess I do...
[08:55] <WldRbit> But those were in some how-to's I followed.
[08:55] <afroman> I want to see from another computer my movies
[08:55] <Seveas> WldRbit, i hope it wasn't ubuntuguide?
[08:55] <Seveas> because ubuntuguide is quite crappy
[08:56] <djm62> afroman: vlc and the server are designed for that,
[08:56] <zukalk> Seveas, why so? it did the job for me everytime
[08:56] <WldRbit> I'm not sure... I've been in a vacation for 2 weeks and I don't remember.
[08:56] <afroman> I want to run and see movies on another computer from mine else where
[08:56] <Thanatermesis> how to posible ubuntu don't have the "fam" package???   o_O'
[08:56] <Seveas> zukalk, misinformation, very suboptimal solutions and complete wrong ones, no explanations of why it should be done their way etc..
[08:56] <djm62> afroman: you could also make a filesystem available over the network, and run the player on the other computer
[08:57] <tmdca> hi. my harddisk is make the most awful sounds (sounds like something is scraching it). Why? I never had problems with this under windows... Does Ubuntu stress the hard disk??
[08:57] <zukalk> i see..
[08:57] <rpj911> I'd like to add UserModeLinux to my HoaryHedgehog 2.6 kernel ,would adding a deb repostry to my universe and going from there do it?
[08:57] <Seveas> tmdca, no, but it looks like your harddrive is dying
[08:57] <Seveas> install smartmontools to check it
[08:57] <drrk> hmm, i keep getting broken pipe when I try and run debootstrap :(
[08:58] <xxtreme> tmdca, better do backups asap
[08:58] <djm62> afroman: I wouldn't advise using X forwarding or VNC if you want to maximise the bandwidth for video data
[08:58] <ivan1> hello, can anyone help me, i am a newbie, back on linux after a several year absence.. was installing ubuntu but now boots to command prompt instead of xwindows?
[08:58] <afroman> djm62> what are U talkin about???
[08:58] <Seveas> ivan1, have you installed wit expert/server option?
[08:58] <ivan1> no, just regular option, following WindowsDualBootHowTo
[08:58] <tmdca> Seveas, Yes i know... How do i make defrag and scandisk corresponding thing i linux?   x.X
[08:58] <Seveas> or do you get an X server error?
[08:59] <mabu> Why amarok doesn't work in gnome?
[08:59] <ivan1> no x server error afaik
[08:59] <Seveas> tmdca, there is no such thing, and it isn't waht you need anyway
[08:59] <Seveas> tmdca, install and use smartmontools to check the drive
[09:00] <Seveas> ivan1, hit <alt><F7> to test, hit <ctrl><alt><F1> or <alt><f1> to go back to the command prompt
[09:00] <tmdca> Seveas, Okay
[09:00] <jez> just tried compiling the fglrx module again, this time with an ubuntu kernel. still getting the same error :(
[09:00] <ivan1> ok, i will try that, just rebooting now, thanks
[09:00] <Seveas> ivoks, if you see an error there, there's something wrong with X, if you get GDM, there's an other error
[09:01] <djm62> afroman: http://www.videolan.org/streaming/
[09:01] <black-whisp> hmm.. im tryind to build a source file. but it complains about some C compiler not able to create executeables.. what can i do about that?
[09:01] <WldRbit> Hmms, do you know of any good guide to set up cedega ?
[09:01] <ivoks> Seveas: ?
[09:01] <Seveas> Yes ivoks ?
[09:01] <xxtreme> ivan1= what video card U using
[09:01] <Seveas> heh, <tab> error :)
[09:01] <ivoks> < Seveas> ivoks, if you see an error there, there's something wrong with X, if you get GDM, there's an other error
[09:01] <ivoks> ah, ok :)
[09:01] <chalcedony> --'--,-{@ --'--,-{@ShadowWlf@}-'--@}--'--
[09:01] <Seveas> sorry :)
[09:01] <djm62> afroman: or you could do System->Administration->Shared folders and install the player on the other machine, and just access the hard disk
[09:01] <ivan1> xxtreme, it is a dell latitude c400 laptop, intel chipset, i can look up more details if u need
[09:02] <ivan1> xxtreme, i used the linux vga=771 option at install
[09:02] <Mauve> Hi, I'm having trouble booting from the Hoary Install CD, I keep getting GRUB Error 15 all the time and it will not boot; I have only seen this error when my 250GB disk has been connected... Does anybody have a clue?
[09:02] <ShadowWlf> chalcedony :)
[09:02] <ivoks> dell's laptopts work grat on ubuntu
[09:02] <WldRbit> Hmms, do you know of any good guide to set up cedega ?
[09:02] <djm62> video playing from a samba share was slightly ropey last time I tried it
[09:03] <Kyral> CVS Cedega or pay Cedega?
[09:03] <xxtreme> ivan1= you still getting errors
[09:03] <ivan1> ivoks, that's good to hear! I am so sick of windows spyware and ready to switch
[09:03] <ivan1> xxtreme, it just booted to command prompt login
[09:03] <zerokills> WldRbit, when you download cedega off the transgaming web page, it gives you a link to a HowTo.txt which explains everything
[09:04] <Seveas> Mauve, weird, are the CD drive and 250GB disk perhaps both SATA?
[09:04] <ivan1> alt-f7 does nothing
[09:04] <Seveas> ivan1, did it give a black screen/
[09:04] <Seveas> ?
[09:04] <xxtreme> ivan1 login and type startx  tell me what it says
[09:04] <djm62> time to ask again:  Can anyone help me to configure Xorg so that xrandr offers rotate functionality?
[09:04] <Kyral> Easiest way is download and install Point2Play
[09:04] <ivan1> seveas, not exactly, it is a text mode
[09:04] <Mauve> seveas, no they're both pata on different channels
[09:04] <ivan1> sorry folks, someone at my (physcial) door
[09:04] <Seveas> ivan1, yes, but i mean no text at all...
[09:04] <rpj911> Mauve, there may be an adress size limitation when useing grub
[09:04] <ivoks> Seveas: what's the problem? i have inspiron, maybe i can help
[09:05] <Kyral> Once Point2Play is installed, just let it go and it will download and install everything else for you
[09:05] <WldRbit> zerokills, does it have a exclusive ubuntu downloads or do I download the debian packages?
[09:05] <Seveas> Mauve, sounds like a bug in the installer, please make a deatailed report and file it at bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[09:05] <Seveas> ivoks, no X on startup, but no X error too
[09:05] <ton> hi everyone
[09:05] <Mauve> rpj911, I had the same problem when my BIOS still only detected the disk as 137GB
[09:05] <ivan1> I'm back everyone
[09:05] <Kyral> WldRbit: Download the Debian Package for Point2Play
[09:05] <Seveas> ivan1, try logging in on the text console and run startx to start X manually
[09:06] <ivoks> Seveas: X are pice of cake to fix
[09:06] <Mauve> Seveas: I'm filing a BUG
[09:06] <ton> got a problem, i have made a partition ext3 with Gparted and mounted correctly but now I cant write on it :(
[09:06] <Seveas> thank you Mauve
[09:06] <ivan1> user not authorized, will try as root
[09:06] <ivoks> ivan1: ok, X don't start?
[09:06] <ivan1> ivoks, right not authorized error
[09:07] <ivoks> ivan1: not authorized? ok... do you have any expirience in linux from before?
[09:07] <jez> ok now that i look at it, it seems a broken symlink is causing my problem. there's a makefile in fglrx-kernel/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/ which is actually a broken symlink to 'Makefile.kbuild'
[09:07] <jez> any explanations for this?
[09:07] <rpj911> when changing hd around, sometimes there are sttings in your BIOS for the HD you are using, like numbr of sectors etc, i would make sure those are correct fir the current hd you have pluged in
[09:07] <ShadowWlf> Anyone have any idea on a prob where programs close themselves (trying to help a friend)  Xchat and irrsi keeps self terminating, and /var/logs/ it said root had a crontab to killall xchat irssi.   that hadn't been set, and when look at the crontab jobs, it doesn't show anything like that in there
[09:07] <ivan1> sorry guys, off to buy a mac, chat with you later when I have time.. (my friend showed up so I have to go, thanks for all your help, ciao)
[09:07] <deancolinux> Hello, how do you install icon themes in Gnome?
[09:08] <ivoks> mac sucks
[09:08] <goldfish_> ivan1: do a 'ls -al ~/.Xauthority'
[09:08] <ivoks> acctually, osx sucks
[09:08] <Kyral> Move the Icon Theme folder into ~/.gnome/icons I believe
[09:08] <xxtreme> ivan1, you should wait until they put in the intel chips next year
[09:08] <Thanatermesis> how to posible ubuntu don't have the "fam" package???   o_O'
[09:08] <Seveas> xxtreme, don't talk nonsense please....
[09:08] <Seveas> Thanatermesis, ubuntu uses gamin instead
[09:09] <xxtreme> seveas, sorry dude
[09:09] <Thanatermesis> gamin ?
[09:09] <Seveas> yes, gamin :)
[09:09] <ivoks> Thanatermesis: gamin is safer
[09:09] <Kyral> deancolinux: move the icon folder into ~/.icons
[09:09] <Seveas> s/safer/much safer/
[09:10] <jez> there's a broken symlink in this module source to 'Makefile.kbuild' - but i don't know what that file is. can anybody attempt to explain what might have caused this and how to fix it?
[09:10] <deancolinux> Thanx...
[09:10] <deancolinux> Thanks...
[09:11] <Dj_AlTeK> hey after i compile wine it asks me for root password... is there a set password or what would it be?
[09:12] <Kyral> I just noticed something
[09:12] <Dj_AlTeK> what kyral?
[09:12] <Kyral> this time yesterday this channel had 450 people
[09:12] <Kyral> now it has 537
[09:12] <Dj_AlTeK> lol
[09:12] <alicia> does anyone know where the kernel source code is found in Unbuntu?
[09:13] <crazyhorse> Dj_AlTeK, for "make install" you need to become root by typing `sudo su` and entering your user password.
[09:13] <Kyral> You come for the help, you stay for the conversation :D
[09:13] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, by default there is no root password :)
[09:13] <Thanatermesis> ivoks, Seveas the problem are of any person like to use my packages, my packages NEED fam, fam not exist in ubuntu, how to repair this? in the control of pacakge: Depends: fam | gamin  ? gamin works equal to fam ?
[09:13] <Seveas> Kyral, the number of people varies between 450 and 550 :)
[09:13] <Kyral> oh lol
[09:14] <ivoks> Thanatermesis: gaim is fam, but without opening ports
[09:14] <Seveas> Thanatermesis, make sure your software can handle gamin (afaik it works the same so it shouldn't be a problem) and use fam | gamin indeed
[09:14] <Dj_AlTeK> ugh.... now i got to wait for wine to recompile
[09:14] <Dj_AlTeK> >.>
[09:15] <Thanatermesis> humm... ok thanks, Im modify my packages...
[09:15] <hacktop> any one know how to change your resolution? i configed my XFREE for a higher res.. but it stayed the same as the original 1024.768
[09:15] <Kyral> Dj: Why? You can Apt-Get WINE
[09:15] <hacktop> is it just a driver/chipset limitation or can i most likly go higher?
[09:16] <kimo> Thanatermesis, how usable is e now
[09:16] <Seveas> Kyral, that version didn't work for him
[09:16] <Seveas> hacktop:  find out how you can change your display's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:16] <Kyral> might be a monitor issue
[09:16] <alicia> "In order to build the VPN kernel module, you must have the kernel headers for the version of the kernel you are running." Can someone tell me what this means??
[09:17] <Howitzer> Does anybody know if i could install Guild Wars on Ubuntu? :/
[09:17] <Thanatermesis> kimo, a 90 % of usability for work normally... is stable, works good... etc
[09:17] <black-whisp> hmm.. i've added some Repository's to my apt.. but it ignores them at update.. what can i do about that?
[09:17] <Seveas> alicia, it means you need to run: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:17] <Dj_AlTeK> :*(
[09:17] <Thanatermesis> the dev of E in this moments is VERY fast
[09:17] <Kyral> Howitzer: Cedega, but I heard it has some very minor GFX issues
[09:17] <Dj_AlTeK> all i wanted to do was play some counter strike source and run ares :*(
[09:17] <alicia> Seveas- what does that mean. This is my second day using Ubuntu.
[09:18] <alicia> or any form of linux
[09:18] <Howitzer> Kyral, can i just install it with using Wine and play it with using Cedega?
[09:18] <kimo> Thanatermesis, u mean e17 is about nearly usable as my primary desktop!! (yes I can accept a crash here or there)
[09:18] <Seveas> alicia, open a terminal and type in tat command exactly
[09:18] <black-whisp> hmm.. i've added some Repository's to my apt.. but it ignores them at update.. what can i do about that?
[09:18] <alicia> okay
[09:18] <WldRbit> err, I need help, does anybody know of a good how-to to set up cedega
[09:18] <Seveas> black-whisp, apt-get update
[09:18] <justin> alicia: are you installing the stupid cisco client?
[09:18] <Kyral> Howitzer: Nope, you're gonna have to pay for Cedega :P
[09:18] <Seveas> Kyral, isn't cedega from CVS free?
[09:18] <ivoks> Thanatermesis: e17?
[09:18] <black-whisp> Seceas: it's when i do that it ignores the Repository's i've added. :S
[09:18] <Howitzer> Kyral, i already have Cedega
[09:18] <kimo> alicia, just apt-get kernel headers
[09:19] <black-whisp> Seveas: it's when i do that it ignores the Repository's i've added. :S
[09:19] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: The CVS of Cedega is Free...
[09:19] <Thanatermesis> yes ivoks
[09:19] <Kyral> Seveas: Yah, but it cannot handle InstallShield
[09:19] <Thanatermesis> and EFL softwares
[09:19] <Seveas> black-whisp, please paste the complete output on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:19] <Howitzer> but can Wine handle that? :(
[09:19] <ivoks> i allready did e17 packages for ubuntu :)
[09:19] <ivoks> http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/e17/
[09:19] <Kyral> and you really pay for Point2Play, which makes things VERY easy
[09:19] <kimo> justin, I wanna install cisco vpn, is there an alternative
[09:19] <Seveas> great ivoks!
[09:19] <black-whisp> seveas: okay. 1 sec
[09:19] <justin> kimo: yes, install the vpnc package
[09:20] <Kyral> ivoks: Can you put that into Repo format?
[09:20] <kimo> justin, how about my pcf files
[09:20] <ivoks> Kyral: no :)
[09:20] <justin> kimo: you can convert them
[09:20] <WldRbit> Does anyone know of a good how-to for setting up cedega on ubuntu, please?
[09:20] <justin> kimo: /usr/share/vpnc/pcf2vpnc
[09:20] <Seveas> ivoks, wht not? :)
[09:20] <Kyral> WldRbit: Do you have Point2Play?
[09:21] <alicia> Seveas- that worked now where did it send it to?
[09:21] <kimo> justin, is it safe to submitt to this website
[09:21] <Howitzer> WldRbit, it isn't ubuntu-specific
[09:21] <ivoks> Kyral: this will not be repo, since these packages aren't stress tested and are to some extend bad packages
[09:21] <Howitzer> it it everywhere the same
[09:21] <Thanatermesis> sorry  kimo , my english is simple, i don't good understand...
[09:21] <ivoks> they are usuable, they work, but i, personaly, don't like them too much :)
[09:21] <Seveas> alicia, you now have installed the headers it wants, so you can go on with the installer
[09:21] <mikeblue> #ubuntu.pl
[09:21] <black-whisp> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/169
[09:21] <Seveas> ivoks, ah :)
[09:21] <Thanatermesis> good ivoks , only my packages are diferents
[09:21] <kimo> Thanatermesis, I mean can I use e17 instead of kde, for everyday work
[09:21] <WldRbit> Kyral, yes.
[09:21] <alicia> i need to know what file it is in, i think
[09:22] <ivoks> Thanatermesis: i would like to try your packages
[09:22] <WldRbit> Kyral, I have on my partition, cedega_4.3.2-1_i386.deb and point2play_2.0.1_i386.deb
[09:22] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: remember earlier when i was talking about the whole root password and stuff, well that comes after the whole compile of wine... and it doesnt let me do sudo su and enter my user password.. it just says password
[09:22] <justin> kimo: mostly, you can always decrypt the password yourself
[09:22] <alicia> Seveas- its asking for the directory containing linux kernel source code.
[09:22] <kimo> alicia, /lib/modules/2.6....
[09:22] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, ah that sucks
[09:22] <black-whisp> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/169
[09:22] <kimo> justin, how :)
[09:22] <Kyral> WldRbit: sudo dpkg -i point2play_2.0.1_i386.deb
[09:23] <Seveas> alicia, /usr/src/linux-*
[09:23] <Kyral> in the command line
[09:23] <alicia> Seveas- I'll try that.
[09:23] <Seveas> black-whisp, that's ok, it doesn't mean an error :)
[09:23] <justin> kimo: http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~massar/bin/cisco-decode , "This script uses ...."
[09:23] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: Ill let it compile again and ill copy and paste to the pastebin and ask your opinion from there
[09:23] <WldRbit> Kyral, and then what?
[09:24] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, you can just set a root password and use that
[09:24] <black-whisp> Seveas: i know. but i want to install wine.. and when i try to compile it the normal way. it complains about some C compiler unable to make executeables.
[09:24] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, you can also use the .deb packages from wine.sourcefourge.net :)
[09:24] <Kyral> WldRbit: It SHOULD make a menu entry in your GNOME Menu under "Transgaming"
[09:24] <Thanatermesis> yes kimo , you posible to work in e17 for all days, exist a very persons to use e17 for work all days, Im personally use e16, i like e16
[09:24] <Seveas> black-whisp, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[09:24] <WldRbit> Kyral, ah, thank you.
[09:24] <Kyral> np
[09:24] <Thanatermesis> i don't have time to test e17, im only packaging and create my personal distro
[09:24] <Kyral> It will walk you through the rest
[09:24] <black-whisp> Seveas: and the wine at the end or?
[09:25] <black-whisp> seveas: or compile again?
[09:26] <ScatterBrain> Anyone know how to copy a multi-session CD?
[09:26] <black-whisp> seveas: it installed nothing with sudo aptitude install build-essential
[09:26] <ivoks> ScatterBrain: disk copy
[09:26] <ScatterBrain> ivoks, As in "dd"?
[09:26] <Seveas> black-whisp, http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[09:27] <black-whisp> okay.. hehe. ;)
[09:27] <Thanatermesis> in all circumstances kimo you posible to try or select to work in kde or e17... and e17 is very fast and no eat cpu... (if you don't use much visual effects), the base of e17 is the WM more fast to launch ;)
[09:27] <ivoks> ScatterBrain: dd is an option, yes :) mkiso is too :)
[09:27] <ivoks> ScatterBrain: or k3b
[09:27] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb <-- use that too instead of compiling from source
[09:27] <WldRbit> Kyral, why should I not use the cedega as well or instead ?
[09:27] <kimo> Thanatermesis, how to use your pkgs ?
[09:27] <kimo> Thanatermesis, apt url ?
[09:28] <Kyral> WldRbit: Point2Play is a frontend to Cedega
[09:28] <ScatterBrain> ivoks, I've tried dd and k3b.  No dice.
[09:28] <Thanatermesis> yes kimo , look in www.livecd.debianitas.net
[09:28] <WldRbit> mkay
[09:28] <Kyral> Makes this very easy :D
[09:28] <ScatterBrain> I'm readin the man page for mkisofs right now.
[09:28] <Kyral> literally Point2Play :D
[09:29] <jez> argh, i'm confused
[09:30] <alicia> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc: command not found/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc: command not found
[09:30] <hax0r209> Any body know how to burn DVDs in Linux
[09:30] <alicia> Seveas- what does that mean.
[09:31] <Kyral> alicia: sudo apt-get install gcc
[09:31] <justin> ScatterBrain: mkisofs won't do you any good, you're not making a filesystem.
[09:31] <justin> ScatterBrain: cdrdao is good at making exact copies of cds
[09:31] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: That was the version that didnt work for me
[09:31] <bddebian> alicia: Sounds like you need to install gcc?
[09:32] <hax0r209> Is there a Program that would burn DVDs on Linnux
[09:32] <alicia> Kyral- I'll try that.
[09:32] <Kyral> hax0r209: sudo apt-get install k3b
[09:32] <Seveas> hax0r209, i thought k3b could do that :)
[09:32] <djm62> alicia: apt-get install build-essential
[09:32] <hax0r209> I already have that
[09:32] <djm62> alicia: install gcc and all the trappings ;)
[09:33] <hax0r209> but is there a way to to get win32 proghram to work with linux
[09:33] <Seveas> hax0r209, wine
[09:33] <Seveas> or cedega
[09:33] <Kyral> WINE/Cedega
[09:33] <Dj_AlTeK> hax0r209, wine/cedega
[09:33] <djm62> hax0r209: nero has a version of their software for linux now
[09:33] <Kyral> Seveas: Actually WINE is better for apps
[09:33] <Dj_AlTeK> hax0r209, but cedega you have to pay for
[09:33] <hax0r209> do you wehre i could get it
[09:33] <Thanatermesis> bye
[09:33] <djm62> I'm guessing wine won't be the way to use dvd burning?
[09:34] <Thanatermesis> to channel
[09:34] <Kyral> hax0r209: sudo apt-get install wine I believe
[09:34] <hax0r209> yeah I have it but
[09:34] <hax0r209> I have problems
[09:34] <Dj_AlTeK> well, we all have problems hax0r209
[09:34] <Dj_AlTeK> ;)
[09:35] <hax0r209> lol
[09:35] <hax0r209> what do u use to burn your dvds
[09:35] <Dj_AlTeK> i dont have a dvd burner
[09:35] <Kyral> k3b :P
[09:35] <pfp> k3b
[09:35] <Dj_AlTeK> all i got is a shitty liteon cd-r drive
[09:35] <Dj_AlTeK> >.>
[09:35] <searcher`> hax0r209: nautilus can do dvd burning
[09:35] <searcher`> and so can graveman
[09:35] <hax0r209> ill try that
[09:36] <searcher`> hax0r209: just pop in the blank dvd and drag the files to the window that pops up
[09:36] <pfp> i think nautilus demands to burn via image, which is a bit silly
[09:36] <searcher`> no
[09:36] <searcher`> it just makes the image first
[09:36] <refuze2looze> hax0r209, try using k3b, it's good
[09:36] <alicia> Thank you to everyone who helped me.
[09:37] <searcher`> but that all happens behind the scenes
[09:37] <Kyral> alicia: No problem :D
[09:37] <pfp> searcher`: mm, that's what i meant (ie. it needs <= 4G temp space)
[09:37] <ufo_> where can I find repositories for breezy ?
[09:37] <hax0r209> when I try to install nautilus it says that is already install so when i run it it open my root folder
[09:38] <hax0r209> any ideas
[09:38] <searcher`> pfp: yeah
[09:38] <searcher`> and takes some time
[09:38] <justin> hax0r209: what you just said made no sense at all.
[09:38] <pfp> nautilus is the file manager in gnome
[09:38] <hax0r209> i type nautilus on terminal and it just opens my root folder
[09:38] <searcher`> pfp: there's still some room for improvement there, but graveman is nice too
[09:39] <justin> hax0r209: what do you expect it to do?
[09:39] <refuze2looze> hax0r209, nautilus is the file manager (like windows explorer)
[09:39] <hax0r209> got it
[09:39] <refuze2looze> hax0r209, pop in a blank DVD, a window will pop up. drag the contents you want to burn there
[09:39] <hax0r209> then how do i burn dvds with nautilus
[09:39] <refuze2looze> hax0r209, then click burn
[09:39] <pfp> searcher`: is it gtk?
[09:40] <searcher`> gtk2
[09:40] <pfp> great
[09:40] <searcher`> has the basic stuff, including burning audio cd's from mp3
[09:40] <refuze2looze> graveman isn't that good..
[09:40] <ivoks> ScatterBrain: umount cdrom
[09:40] <refuze2looze> k3b is much better than graveman
[09:40] <hax0r209> but first I will have to mkae an iso of what i want to burn rite
[09:40] <ivoks> ScatterBrain: if you don't like console, you can do it via GUI
[09:40] <refuze2looze> hax0r209, no, just your stuff there. it'll do it automatically
[09:41] <pfp> hax0r209: in a nautilus window go -> cd/dvd creator, the iso creation is transparent (ie you dont have to)
[09:41] <Dj_AlTeK> hax0r209: only if you want the dvd/cd to be an iso, if just regular then drag and drop
[09:41] <hax0r209> Thanks for the help
[09:41] <refuze2looze> does nautilus support multisession btw?
[09:42] <Dj_AlTeK> dunno refuze2looze
[09:42] <searcher`> refuze2looze: no. since it just burns a temp iso file
[09:42] <christos> anyone knows how anjuta is pronounced?
[09:42] <black-whisp> Seveas: whats the comand in the console for deleteing a folder?
[09:42] <refuze2looze> right
[09:43] <refuze2looze> black-whisp, rm -rf foldername
[09:43] <Nisku> Hello All.
[09:43] <searcher`> black-whisp: rm -rf folder
[09:43] <Seveas> rm -r folder
[09:43] <Seveas> do NOT use the f if not neccessary...
[09:43] <Dj_AlTeK> i thought it was just rm -r floder name
[09:43] <Dj_AlTeK> folder*
[09:44] <refuze2looze> Seveas, hmm, it never works for me if i don't include the -f
[09:44] <alicia> How do you create a .pcf file?
[09:44] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: what -f denote anyway?
[09:44] <pfp> f = use the force
[09:44] <Seveas> pcf?
[09:44] <kimo> alicia, it comes with cisco vpn client
[09:44] <Nisku> How can I set the size of the font used for printing in Evolution 2.2.1.1
[09:45] <alicia> Kimo: I know. I'm trying to install that right now. I have to "Create a configuration file in /etc/CiscoSystemsVPNClient/Profiles/ named truman.pcf with the following contents"
[09:46] <djm62> is .pcf just ascii?
[09:46] <lsuactiafner> ok, my screen decided to make a very high pitched sound, hurts my ears.. its a LG flatron ez.. when i change the sync frequencies in xorgconf the sound goes away, but now my resolution is a bit smaller..
[09:46] <lsuactiafner> ideas ppl?
[09:46] <kimo> alicia, look there, there might be a template
[09:46] <Cybermagellan> Are there any drupal themes for ubuntu?
[09:46] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/170 .... What do you think?
[09:46] <alicia> yeah, there is. I just don't know how to edit it.
[09:46] <lsuactiafner> really hurts my ears
[09:46] <kimo> alicia, why it is just text!
[09:47] <refuze2looze> lsuactiafner, check your monitor's specs to see what sync frequencies and refresh rate it suports.. and set those
[09:47] <kimo> alicia, open with gedit
[09:47] <djm62> alicia: sudo gedit /etc/....
[09:48] <lsuactiafner> think my ping is 5min+ again
[09:48] <alicia> type that in a terminal?? come on guys i'm new.
[09:48] <refuze2looze> alicia, yes
[09:48] <bur[n] er> alicia: there's about 30 ways to edit a text file ;)
[09:49] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: you here??
[09:49] <refuze2looze> Dj_AlTeK, it's just asking for your root password. what's the problem?
[09:49] <Dj_AlTeK> what would the root password be??
[09:49] <refuze2looze> Dj_AlTeK, your user password
[09:49] <Dj_AlTeK> but i put it in and it doesnt work
[09:50] <refuze2looze> Dj_AlTeK, there is only 1 user ?
[09:50] <Dj_AlTeK> yea
[09:50] <marcel__> refuze2looze, he's asking you for his password :D
[09:50] <Dj_AlTeK> when i put my user pass in i get su: Authentication Failure    sorry
[09:50] <mbruemmer> what is AlsaSequencer
[09:50] <refuze2looze> marcel__, lol, that i can't help him
[09:51] <lsuactiafner> bleh did you guys see my question, didnt manage to sync to the channel
[09:51] <SysFail> no lsuactiafner
[09:51] <pfp> Dj_AlTeK: if that something really needs a root password, you could set one with 'sudo passwd', but in that case it would be safe to know what's asking & why
[09:51] <refuze2looze> lsuactiafner, about your monitor?
[09:51] <lsuactiafner> great.. yeh about the monitor
[09:52] <lsuactiafner> really hurts my ears
[09:52] <lsuactiafner> could it be the hardware is about to break?
[09:52] <refuze2looze> lsuactiafner, you have to check your monitor's specs in the manual or somewhere to find the correct sync rates/refresh rates/etc that it supports and set those
[09:52] <kimo> setting incorrect frequencies CAN damage monitors
[09:52] <pfp> lsuactiafner: i'd return it if there's guarantee (or proper laws to protect against material/manufacture flaws)
[09:52] <pfp> lsuactiafner: .. after guarantee that is
[09:53] <maeth> hi, i have a p3150 lexmark printer
[09:53] <refuze2looze> lsuactiafner, if you dont have the manual check the vendor's website to get the sync rates
[09:53] <lsuactiafner> refuze2looze : its correct, it worked perfectly for 5 months just started to do this yesterday
[09:53] <maeth> can somebody help me getting the driver for ubuntu?
[09:53] <lsuactiafner> syncs are correct
[09:53] <refuze2looze> lsuactiafner, warranty? =)
[09:54] <refuze2looze> maeth, what driver
[09:54] <lsuactiafner> refuze2looze : yeh but how do i explain to em it hurts my ears.. in the GUI it hurts, in console its fine, so they might plug it on win xp and say nothing is wrong
[09:54] <maeth> refuze2looze, for the lexmark p3150 photo
[09:54] <maeth> all in one printer
[09:54] <TokenBad> stupid deb files..
[09:54] <lsuactiafner> maeth : digital camera?
[09:55] <maeth> lsuactiafner, no , all in one printer
[09:55] <refuze2looze> lsuactiafner, i doubt it
[09:55] <lsuactiafner> suppose i will need to take it back, effort tho
[09:55] <maeth> i was checking this page
[09:55] <maeth> http://www.lexmark.com/US/products/info/linux/download_v2.html
[09:55] <refuze2looze> lsuactiafner, if your sync ratings are correct and the monitor is making a noise, it means something is screwed with your monitor
[09:56] <lsuactiafner> someone told me the monitor is about to break.. i goto gui and console very often so often the monitor changes refresh rates.. so yah
[09:56] <maeth> it says there is a kit
[09:56] <TokenBad> how can fix so can install deb files if the dpkg -i is giving me errors?
[09:56] <pfp> lsuactiafner: if you are using the monitor according to specifications, *they* can't  have anything against you
[09:56] <Dj_AlTeK> pfp: Wine is asking for a root password: "Performing 'make install' as root to install binaries, enter root password"
[09:56] <maeth> drivers kit, but dont know if it would work
[09:56] <lsuactiafner> pfp : no fish tank in it so its all good..
[09:56] <refuze2looze> Dj_AlTeK, if you don't know your password, nobody can help you
[09:56] <refuze2looze> Dj_AlTeK, you set your password when you installed ubuntu
[09:56] <Kyral> Dj_Altek: You should have done a sudo su before starting
[09:57] <pfp> Dj_AlTeK: hmm, why are you compiling it? it's installable with apt
[09:57] <refuze2looze> TokenBad, dependancy errors?
[09:57] <Dj_AlTeK> so does that mean i quit the make install now and sudo su passwd?
[09:57] <pfp> lsuactiafner: :)
[09:57] <Dj_AlTeK> pfp: that version doesnt work for me
[09:57] <lsuactiafner> one day someone is going to ask me for passwd and i will paste liek 500 random characters and tell him to memorise
[09:57] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, the version you are compiling is *exactly* the same as the .debs i pointed you to...
[09:57] <refuze2looze> Dj_AlTeK, no, you just need to enter your correct password
[09:57] <TokenBad> its saying it can't overwrite a file..but when first got the error i went and removed the file
[09:57] <TokenBad> but it still says its there
[09:57] <Seveas> so if that does not work, neither will this...
[09:58] <TokenBad> and can't overwrite it
[09:58] <pfp> refuze2looze: he's doing a make install, which uses su, which really needs _root's_ password, which doesn't exist by default...
[09:58] <pfp> Dj_AlTeK: oh
[09:58] <Seveas> refuze2looze, probably the script uses su instead of sudo
[09:58] <refuze2looze> pfp, ah.. i get it
[09:58] <afroman> how does NX work???
[09:58] <flodine> anyone know how to merge there xdefault colors to vim
[10:00] <SysFail> NX the newsreader?
[10:00] <afroman> SysFail> no the NX no machine
[10:00] <Seveas> afroman, have you installed freenx from the backports?
[10:00] <afroman> oo
[10:00] <Seveas> on the *remote* machine..
[10:01] <TokenBad> well I don't know why this thing will not install
[10:01] <pfp> Dj_AlTeK: yea, running 'sudo su', then 'make install' will probably install it, but i'd believe Seveas about it being the same version though
[10:01] <afroman> Seveas>I'm supposed to install freenx on the linux computer and NX on the windows PC?
[10:01] <Seveas> afroman, is the remote PC a windows PC or a linux one?
[10:01] <Dj_AlTeK> pfp: i tried apt-get but it didnt work for me
[10:02] <refuze2looze> Dj_AlTeK, sudo apt-get wine
[10:02] <afroman> Seveas, a windows PC
[10:02] <Seveas> afroman, if it's windows XP you don't need NX at all, you can simply use remote desktop
[10:02] <Seveas> applications -> internet -> terminal server client
[10:03] <afroman> Seveas, what do U mean???
[10:03] <alicia> I must sound like an idiot but... how do you do this- Run "vpnclient connect truman" to begin a VPN session
[10:03] <Seveas> afroman, just as I say it...
[10:03] <Seveas> lol pfp
[10:03] <Seveas> good luck :)
[10:04] <auk> heeheehee
[10:05] <Seveas> hoohoohoo
[10:05] <refuze2looze> cool.. is NX like VMWare?
[10:05] <alicia> Seveas- I'm trying to install a VPN client and the last step is to "Run "vpnclient connect truman" to begin a VPN session" but I don't know how.
[10:06] <Seveas> alicia, no idea, never used VPN :)
[10:06] <mgway> Hey.
[10:06] <alicia> Seveas- thanks anyway.
[10:06] <refuze2looze> alicia, try typing that in a terminal
[10:06] <Seveas> refuze2looze, no, it's like vnc/remote desktop, but really really fast & responsive, even over slow links
[10:07] <mgway> I've just re-installed Ubuntu..and set up apache. Except no-one can connect...
[10:07] <mgway> How do I open port 80 on ubuntu to get them to connect?
[10:07] <refuze2looze> Seveas, oh.. speaking of vmware though, do you know if it's possible to run windows xp from another partition or do you need to install it with vmware?
[10:07] <Seveas> mgway, if you install apache, it's open
[10:07] <Seveas> mgway, are you using a router?
[10:07] <alicia> refuze2looze- root@Alicia:/ # vpnclient connect truman bash: vpnclient: command not found
[10:08] <Seveas> refuze2looze, ENOIDEA, never used VMware
[10:08] <mgway> Yes, but its got the redirect set to this machine's ip
[10:08] <mgway> and I can see it locally
[10:08] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: as far as i have expirence with VMware you  have to install it.
[10:08] <Seveas> mgway, odd what is your IP address?
[10:08] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: what purpose are you goinge to use XP for?
[10:08] <afroman> Seveas, what do I put as Computer in Terminal Server Client
[10:09] <mgway> http://68.198.166.160
[10:09] <Seveas> afroman, the address of the remote PC
[10:09] <Seveas> afroman, and as protocol you need RDP
[10:09] <TokenBad> I was told to force an install on this screensaver..how do you force an install?
[10:09] <refuze2looze> black-whisp, well i don't even have windows xp installed.. just a hypothetical question =p
[10:09] <Seveas> afroman, your router still blocks it
[10:09] <afroman> Seveas, what do U mean "address"?? do U mean the IP adress??
[10:09] <refuze2looze> alicia, you created a root account?
[10:09] <Seveas> afroman, sorry that last line wasn't for you
[10:09] <Seveas> and yes, the IP address
[10:10] <Seveas> mgway, your router still blocks it
[10:10] <alicia> refuze2looze, umm... no I'm using the root terminal
[10:10] <Seveas> or maybe your provider
[10:10] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: okay.. ;) cuz if you try to install win xp on vmware to game on it. thats impossible cuz VMware dont use your own hardware.. :S as the ones win xp will be able to see. :S
[10:10] <alicia> refuze2looze, should I not be.
[10:10] <mgway> It shouldn't...I've got the router set to accept all ports
[10:10] <refuze2looze> alicia, oh, try using the default terminal maybe
[10:10] <alicia> refuze2looze, i'll try.
[10:10] <Seveas> mgway, have you perhaps installed firestarter?
[10:11] <afroman> Seveas, what about the username??
[10:11] <Seveas> afroman, your account on the remote machine
[10:11] <Seveas> and make sure the remote machine has remote desktop connections enabled...
[10:11] <refuze2looze> black-whisp, it uses virtual hardware?
[10:11] <mgway> seveas, I wouldn't know if I tried to. Its a fresh install...
[10:11] <alicia> refuze2looze, same thing.
[10:11] <Seveas> mgway, hmm..
[10:12] <refuze2looze> alicia, try doing "locate vpnclient"
[10:12] <Seveas> nmap shows port 80 as 'filtered' on your ip address though
[10:12] <Seveas> so something is blocking it
[10:12] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: yes... when i used it my graphic card was named VMware and so on.
[10:13] <refuze2looze> black-whisp, i'm just getting a 200 gig HD so i thought maybe i should have a partition for winxp on it.. hehe
[10:13] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: and some linux dists is hard to install 2. :S
[10:13] <Seveas> mgway, I think your provider is blocking it, have you tried running a webserver before, on windows maybe?
[10:13] <afroman> Seveas, what about the psswd??
[10:13] <Seveas> afroman, your account on the remote machine...
[10:13] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: okay.. ;) hehe.  :) well i wasn't able to get it to work as a gameing system with VMware.
[10:13] <mgway> No, windows webservers would never work for me.
[10:13] <xxtreme> has anyone found a repository for E17
[10:14] <alicia> refuze2looze, I know where my files are, I just don't know how to connect to the VPN. This is so irratating. I wish the directions for this were easier.
[10:14] <refuze2looze> black-whisp, eh, i doubt i'd be doing any gaming. besides the video card i have is intel onboard
[10:14] <Seveas> xxtreme, ivoks has made some packages for it
[10:14] <afroman> Seveas, what about the psswd?? domain, Client Hostname
[10:14] <Seveas> not in a repository though
[10:14] <refuze2looze> alicia, it's saying command not found. so try running it with the full path, ie. /path/of/vpnclient
[10:14] <Seveas> afroman, passwd is your passwd on that machine, the others can be left empty
[10:14] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: okay.. ;) then its more "work" likely things of purpose.. hehe.. then it should work just great. :)
[10:15] <refuze2looze> black-whisp, but i'd have to install winxp on a virtual partition via vmware right?
[10:15] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: yes.
[10:15] <Seveas> mgway, I've been scanning some clients of your provider and it seems that your provider is blocking port 80
[10:15] <afroman> Seveas, nothing came.... this is weird...
[10:15] <Seveas> so you cannot run a webserver on the standard port on your machine...
[10:15] <refuze2looze> black-whisp, i would have rather had it on a seperate partition so i can also boot straight to windows xp in the unlikely event i would ever want to
[10:16] <mgway> Oh. =|
[10:16] <alicia> refuze2looze, you're a frickin' genious. Thanks.
[10:16] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: well that  you won't be able to with VMware.. hehe. ;) but beside that i think VMware is pretty cool. :)
[10:17] <refuze2looze> alicia, i try =p you might want to add a link to it in /usr/bin. like this: sudo ln -s /location/of/vpnclient /usr/bin/vpnclient
[10:17] <Kyral> I have half a mind to get VMWare and install both OS X and Win98 :P
[10:17] <xxtreme> seveas= where can I get E17 from ivoks
[10:17] <Kyral> Win98 so I can play my old school games
[10:17] <Seveas> xxtreme, www.grad.hu/~ivoks
[10:17] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: if you fx. would learn to program asp .net or some other .net programing lang... VMware will come very handy. :P
[10:17] <xxtreme> seveas thanks
[10:17] <refuze2looze> Kyral, OS X and windows 98? those don't run on the same platform
[10:17] <Seveas> xxtreme, www.grad.hr/~ivoks
[10:17] <pfp> phew... feline caught :P
[10:18] <Kyral> refuze2looze: VMWare :P
[10:18] <Kyral> And you can install OSX over Linux using PearPC
[10:18] <pfp> alicia: kame (bsd's ipsec implementation) is also available on ubuntu... maybe you could use that to connect too (unless you solved it already)
[10:19] <afroman> Seveas, when U say the remote computer, do U mean the Master Computer or the slave???
[10:19] <refuze2looze> black-whisp, i guess i'll install winxp on vmware instead of on it's own partition then =p.. i got this extra computer lying around here that i can use as a windows xp box anyways.. i want to instal Unix Tools for Windows NT on it or whatever it's called so i can have NFS sharing between ubuntu and winxp, that would be cool
[10:19] <refuze2looze> Kyral, VMWare allows you to run Mac OS X on x86?
[10:20] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: yeah.. ;)
[10:20] <Seveas> afroman, the one you are not physically behind
[10:20] <TokenBad> well got the one error fixed..now get dependacies errors
[10:20] <refuze2looze> black-whisp, gotta wait for my new hard drive first though
[10:21] <afroman> Seveas, well it didn't work
[10:21] <afroman> Seveas, "connection timed out
[10:22] <Smirnov> HERESEY
[10:22] <afroman> Seveas, are U sure I'm supposed to leave the domain and client hostname blank??
[10:22] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: i have a 200gb sata drive on windows.. even thoug i only use windows for msn.. :S pretty annoying.. its filled with stuff where i think i'll only need about 50gb of it on linux now that i switch nearly "complete" now that cedega have support for MMO*** games... hehe. ;) some addiction of mine..
[10:24] <afroman> Seveas, are U sure I'm supposed to leave the domain and client hostname blank??
[10:24] <toinou_> I would like to use postgresql on PHP5 on ubuntu please help :)
[10:25] <celle> how can I get rid of as1.falkag.de ?
[10:25] <justin> Seveas: do you even know what he is trying to accomplish?
[10:25] <llama_> hello all
[10:25] <llama_> and i still have no internet
[10:25] <llama_> :(
[10:25] <llama_> :o
[10:25] <llama_> :l
[10:26] <llama_> :|
[10:26] <refuze2looze> black-whisp, forget windows, use the whole HD for linux =p
[10:26] <llama_> :] 
[10:26] <pfp> i have an internet :)
[10:26] <llama_> grrrrr
[10:26] <llama_> d:)
[10:26] <llama_> ^_^
[10:26] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: hehe. ;) i have to have windows xp installed i play chess with af frind by msn messenger.. :S and by now i dont know how to get msn messegner to work.. :S in linux.
[10:27] <anatole> black-whisp: there is gaim but you can't play chess on it ;p
[10:27] <pfp> black-whisp: amsn is a good graphical client imo
[10:27] <lichte> I'm using Warty, if I change the repository settings in Synaptic, will it upgrade to the new version?
[10:27] <mbruemmer> hello  anybody's using ppc and can explain how to install alsa-modules?
[10:27] <anatole> gotta find an other online solution for playing chess
[10:27] <black-whisp> pfp: i use amsn.. but it doesnt support the new msn games. :S
[10:27] <refuze2looze> black-whisp, 200 gigs for playing chess.. interesting =)
[10:27] <anatole> i'm sure there are dozens
[10:28] <afroman> Seveas, are U there??
[10:28] <black-whisp> anatole: thats the problem. :P
[10:28] <pfp> oh, heh.. i was going to suggest bitlbee (msn <-> irc gtateway) next
[10:28] <afroman> anyone can help me with Terminal Server Client???
[10:29] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: as i said im going to use the 200gig hd for linux.. just have to save 50gb of the crap on it.. ;) so i pretty much need one of my friends to hold that while i reformat it and  mount  it in linux.:P
[10:29] <refuze2looze> hey this pearPC thing is cool, i think i'll install it
[10:29] <anatole> but black-whisp, seriously... when yer friend wants to play chess, will you reboot for that? :p
[10:29] <refuze2looze> black-whisp, ah..why don't you move them to your linux HD?
[10:30] <afroman> anyone can help me with Terminal Server Client???
[10:30] <anatole> well that's a thing i could never do... i'm too lazy for that
[10:30] <black-whisp> refuze2looz: i only have 14 gigs.. ;)
[10:30] <blank_> sup
[10:30] <black-whisp> anatole: its once orr twice in a week so yeah.. love chess. :)
[10:30] <Dj_AlTeK> hey i got winetools to work and i got the gui, but when i try to install Internet Explorer 6.01 sp1, it says install failed, and its installing into the fake windows drive
[10:30] <refuze2looze> black-whisp, ouch.. you should play chess via vmware hehe
[10:31] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: i have considered that.. ;)
[10:31] <refuze2looze> Dj_AlTeK, there was no other error messagE?
[10:31] <Dj_AlTeK> nope
[10:31] <anatole> black-whisp: http://gameknot.com/
[10:32] <Muttley> hi, is there a solution to the liba52 mplayer problem? (crashes when playing an file with ac3 audio)
[10:32] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: hehe. ;) but it takes some time when i finaly remove every windows thing.. ;) till i want to see the blue xp theme again. :P
[10:32] <refuze2looze> Dj_AlTeK, that's weird.. i dunno i installed ie6 using crossover office
[10:32] <zukalk> DjAltTeK, why would anyone want IE?
[10:32] <Dj_AlTeK> zukalk: im trying to use Wine
[10:32] <anatole> was the first entry for "chess online" in google
[10:33] <zukalk> Dj_AlTeK, i'm sure there are better Win programs to test Wine than IE ;)
[10:33] <refuze2looze> zukalk, if you are a web developer it is important to have IE to make sure your sites work in other browsers than firefox
[10:33] <Dj_AlTeK> refuze2looze: i get an error message reading: Setup was unable to install all the components. Plese close all applications and try running Setup again."
[10:33] <zukalk> refuze2looze, oh, good point
[10:33] <afroman> how does VNC work???
[10:33] <refuze2looze> Dj_AlTeK, did you insall DCOM? i think you need to install that first
[10:33] <Dj_AlTeK> i did
[10:33] <Heimdall> hi
[10:34] <toinou_> afroman, you have to set a vncserver on a PC and use vncviewer on a other :)
[10:34] <Goshawk> afroman, i don't know it for sure, but it should send the images of the desktop to a vnc client
[10:34] <zyth> awww, Windows Update doesn't work with IE
[10:34] <pfp> black-whisp: gnuchess has network play & works in win32 afaik (i dont play myself though)
[10:34] <binbrain> anybody try to set up a kdc in hoary
[10:34] <binbrain> my kdc tries to bind to a ip6 address
[10:34] <binbrain> anybody know how to force it to bind to a ip4 address?
[10:35] <Goshawk> afroman, the arrow should be done by the client that send the coordinates (x,y) to the server that move the arrow
[10:35] <black-whisp> pfp: okay. ;)
[10:35] <concept10> binbrain, using what?
[10:35] <jez> does anybody know how to stop xorg loading the xfree86-dga module? i've put in the usual subsection with the omit option, yet it's still loading
[10:35] <jez> and having googled around a bit it looks like other people have the same problem
[10:35] <Goshawk> afonit, btw these are poor words, to know fro sure call google and tell him your questions
[10:35] <binbrain> concept10: using what? I'm trying to set up a kerberos key distribution center in hoary, it it won't start, I get an error that it can't bind to the address
[10:36] <toinou_> afroman,   ???
[10:36] <binbrain> and the address is listed as the ip6 address, not the ip4 address
[10:36] <afroman> toinou_, yes
[10:37] <jez> Is there a way to get RANDR to work while using fglrx? :/
[10:37] <toinou_> afroman, I think thevns server is vnc-common
[10:37] <afonit> goshawk: what are you talking about, i did not ask a question
[10:38] <afroman> toinou_, I have it installed
[10:38] <Goshawk> ---afroman how does VNC work???
[10:38] <Goshawk> i thought it was a question.. isn't it?
[10:38] <Muttley> anyone know how to fix the problem with mplayer and ac3 files?
[10:39] <Goshawk> ah.. sorry afonit ... i was talking with afroman
[10:39] <afroman> Goshawk, yes
[10:39] <black-whisp> anatole: do you play chess?
[10:39] <afonit> goshawk, ah ok,
[10:39] <celle> anyone an idea how to stop as1.falkag.de
[10:39] <Seveas> celle, stop..?
[10:39] <blank_> hey, i'd like to know how to configure my gnome to look like this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/m1/m25325-1.png
[10:39] <afroman> Goshawk, how does it work??
[10:39] <Seveas> you can make an adblock rule for it in firefox...
[10:40] <Goshawk> afroman, i explained it before
[10:40] <lsuactiafner> anyone did equal bandwidth sharing before using tc? need to devide my link in 2 between me and roomate but if i'm not using my share it should be open for his use also
[10:40] <blank_> how in the bottom, the panel is in the middle
[10:40] <Goshawk> afroman, loook upper
[10:40] <lsuactiafner> celle : works very well
[10:40] <justin> blank_: right click the panel, change the settings for it
[10:40] <Seveas> blank, rightclick on the panel, select properties and uncheck expand
[10:40] <lsuactiafner> celle : i also got bannerfilter on my proxy to block around 600 matches of stupid content out
[10:41] <blank_> okay thanks seveas and justing, unclick expand, unclick expand
[10:41] <afroman> Goshawk whom were U talking to???
[10:41] <Goshawk> afroman, i'll send al i've written about vnc in pvt
[10:42] <Seveas> oy...
[10:42] <Goshawk> afroman, done
[10:42] <jez> Is there a way to get RANDR to work while using fglrx? :/
[10:43] <celle> lsuactiafner: how turn I this bannerfilter on ?
[10:44] <BIGDADDY> hi
[10:44] <Dj_AlTeK> freakin hell!!!
[10:44] <BIGDADDY> please
[10:44] <BIGDADDY> somebody knows the irc channel of ubuntu in spanish
[10:44] <BIGDADDY> ?
[10:44] <Dj_AlTeK> i think is #ubuntu-es
[10:44] <Dj_AlTeK> yep
[10:45] <BIGDADDY> ok thanks
[10:45] <Dj_AlTeK> your welcom
[10:45] <Dj_AlTeK> welcome*
[10:45] <BIGDADDY> :D
[10:45] <Dj_AlTeK> ill be right back
[10:46] <cyphase> http://robert.accettura.com/archives/2005/06/18/microsoft-blocking-firefox/
[10:46] <londonboi2k3> Hi guys, I have a 2 problems i am hoping you can help me solve. The first is SSH, when i try to ssh in to my pc from remote or local locations i get permission denied (public key) is there any way around this?
[10:47] <Seveas> londonboi2k3, do you have openssh-server installed?
[10:47] <londonboi2k3> hmm im not sure
[10:47] <Seveas> if so, do you have your public key in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server
[10:47] <londonboi2k3> ok hold on ill check
[10:48] <pr0ger> hey anyone here use mplayer?
[10:48] <Seveas> pr0ger, yes...
[10:48] <pr0ger> I compilied it and everything with all the codecs
[10:49] <pr0ger> but the display doesnt work
[10:49] <pr0ger> vidix error or something?
[10:49] <Seveas> pr0ger, you don't need to compile it...
[10:49] <xliu> hi there
[10:49] <Drako60> what would i get sound from my dvd drive even if i don't have the audio cable plugged in?
[10:49] <Seveas> it comes in the repositories :)
[10:49] <pr0ger> I didnt see it
[10:49] <Seveas> it's in multiverse
[10:49] <pr0ger> bah
[10:49] <Seveas> :)
[10:50] <Seveas> Drako60, because it plays the sound digitally and not analog via the cable..
[10:50] <pr0ger> so I guess i should add that to my sources list?
[10:50] <pr0ger> I have universe
[10:50] <Seveas> pr0ger, indeed
[10:50] <poLACO> WENA WENA CABROS
[10:50] <Seveas> pr0ger: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[10:50] <pr0ger> ahh thank ya Seveas
[10:50] <blank_> seveas
[10:50] <Seveas> poLACO, we speak english in here...
[10:50] <Seveas> blank_?
[10:50] <poLACO> SUCK MY DICK FUCKER
[10:51] <blank_> i pmed you
[10:51] <Drako60> Seveas, i had cd audio befor, but i reinstalled ubuntu and now its not working
[10:51] <blank_> seveas should be op lol
[10:51] <Seveas> blank_, please ask before I do that..
[10:51] <Seveas> blank_, please ask before you* do that..
[10:51] <blank_> do what
[10:51] <blank_> pm you?
[10:51] <Seveas> I ignore pm's by default :)
[10:51] <blank_> oh okay
[10:51] <blank_> lol
[10:51] <blank_> can i pm you
[10:51] <Seveas> as do most people out here that help a lot of people
[10:51] <sobersabre> hi... is there ubuntu package for firefox 1.0.4 ?
[10:52] <Seveas> :)
[10:52] <fetman> fetman@cytos macossounds $ play ._Quack.wav
[10:52] <Seveas> you better ask your questions in here, there's more people in here
[10:52] <fetman> playing ._Quack.wav
[10:52] <fetman> sox: Failed reading ._Quack.wav: WAVE: RIFF header not found
[10:52] <blank_> hey does anyone have a way of changing to root not in the command line but so i can navigate folders, and not 'run as different user' either
[10:52] <fetman> what up with that?
[10:52] <Seveas> blank_, you shouldn't do that....
[10:52] <blank_> o.0
[10:52] <blank_> do what
[10:52] <Seveas> it's too easy to mess up things doing that and it's not needed
[10:52] <blank_> yeah i know, dont worry though
[10:53] <blank_> anyways, did you read my pm?
[10:53] <slask3n> hi =) Ive heard that linux is made for 2 disk, and that the system should be in one disk and swap and something else in another.. is this true and whats the other thing that shoould be on the secondary disk?
[10:53] <pfp> fetman: files that begin with ._ are resource forks iirc
[10:53] <blank_> fine i'll tell you here seveas
[10:53] <Seveas> blank_, no, as I said i ignore them by default :)
[10:53] <blank_> okay, when i make my panel transparent, the side edges are still white
[10:53] <blank_> :(
[10:53] <pfp> fetman: ie. not the real file
[10:53] <Seveas> you can try sudo nautilus, but that might just as well f*ck up your ~/.Xauthority
[10:53] <blank_> yep
[10:53] <blank_> so i was saying
[10:53] <blank_> the panels
[10:53] <fetman> pfp: well, mhm
[10:54] <xliu> how can I get to know the name of the pakage I can install when using apt-get?
[10:54] <Drako60> i need cd audio, but i don't know how to get it to work
[10:55] <Seveas> blank_, no idea, you might need to edit the theme..
[10:55] <blank_> :(
[10:55] <blank_> okay
[10:55] <blank_> also seveas
[10:55] <blank_> how can i make a panel be ontop or underneath another
[10:55] <xliu> hi everyone, how can I get to know the name of the pakage I can install when using apt-get?
[10:55] <blank_> cause it sometimes wont let me
[10:55] <blank_> nevermind
[10:55] <sobersabre> xliu, do you think apt-get can guess what you need ?
[10:56] <jbroome> apt-get install mindreader
[10:56] <pfp> xliu: do you mean, how to search for packages?
[10:56] <fetman> pfp: well, I downloaded this: http://sagefire.org/C1009907506/E1311212715/ .. seems like it should be the real ting?
[10:56] <blank_> whats the command line name for the trash can?
[10:56] <xliu> no, but I want to install some extentions for firefox, but i can not get the exact name
[10:56] <Seveas> blank_, mv FILE ~/.Trash
[10:56] <xliu> yes, how to search for packages
[10:56] <blank_> kay
[10:57] <Drako60> apt-cache search
[10:57] <Seveas> xliu, firefox extensions cannot be downloaded with apt
[10:57] <Seveas> you need to go to the firefox page for that
[10:57] <pfp> xliu: 'apt-cache search put search terms here'
[10:57] <blank_> how can i open the trash can with root priviliges
[10:57] <xliu> thanks Drako69
[10:57] <anatole> OMG i pressed something and ubuntu focused onto a part of the desktop
[10:57] <blank_> lol
[10:58] <Seveas> blank_, why would you want that..?
[10:58] <blank_> i threw away something in root, and i cant get back at it rofl
[10:58] <Seveas> lol :)
[10:58] <xliu> pfp ,ok, got it
[10:58] <anatole> it was ctrl+alt+- on the nummpad
[10:58] <rronkivx> Seveas, are you part of the ubuntu team?
[10:58] <anatole> what should i do?
[10:58] <anatole> o_O
[10:58] <alicia> how do I mab a network drive in Ubuntu?
[10:58] <Seveas> sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.Trash
[10:58] <anatole> scary
[10:58] <Seveas> and you can access it again :)
[10:58] <alicia> that would be map a drive
[10:58] <blank_> uh...okay :D
[10:58] <Seveas> sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~/.Trash
[10:58] <slask3n> hi =) Ive heard that linux is made for 2 disk, and that the system should be in one disk and swap and something else in another.. is this true and whats the other thing that shoould be on the secondary disk?
[10:59] <djs> pfp: Do you recall we helped someone unlocking the screensaver while using the LiveCD?
[10:59] <Seveas> rronkivx, I am an Ubuntu community member
[10:59] <pfp> djs: yep
[10:59] <djs> pfp: I realised a better way would be to simply set a password for the ubuntu user and use it to unlock.
[10:59] <rronkivx> Seveas do they have a limit to the # of cd's they will send?
[10:59] <Seveas> slask3n, Linux uses a swap for virtual memory, this should be places on a separate partition if you want to use hibernate
[11:00] <Seveas> rronkiv, no
[11:00] <blank_> wont work :'(
[11:00] <rronkivx> ok good;)
[11:00] <djs> pfp: Just FYI
[11:00] <onovy> http://gerede.org/STUFF/friendship.jpg
[11:00] <pfp> fetman: hmm, doesn't that zipfile have sound files whose names don't begin with ._ ?
[11:00] <Seveas> blank_, try the one i typed later
[11:00] <blank_> i did, both
[11:00] <Seveas> hmm
[11:00] <blank_> and after what do i do
[11:00] <Seveas> what is your username?
[11:00] <blank_> jorge
[11:00] <blank_> oh waht you gave me was a template?
[11:00] <[Jonne] > i have a question about the liveCD: I had some cd's of hoary shipped to me, and every liveCD i've tried fails the integrety check. Do you guys know if this is a cd issue, or a hardware issue?
[11:00] <pfp> djs: don't you need your old password to set the new one?
[11:00] <blank_> lol
[11:00] <alicia> Does anyone know how to map a network drive in Ubuntu?
[11:00] <Seveas> sudo chown -R jorge:jorge /home/jorge/.Trash
[11:00] <Seveas> alicia, places -> connect to server
[11:00] <blank_> oh okay yeah i noticed that a little late thanks seveas
[11:00] <fetman> pfp: hmm?? where?
[11:00] <slipjig> slask3n: two *partitions* (not necessarily discs) would be the minimum.  One for the system and one for swap.  I like to have three, /, /home/ and swap.
[11:01] <Seveas> [Jonne] , might be a livecd issue but i really think it's the hardware
[11:01] <fetman> pfp: wav-files you mean?
[11:01] <pfp> fetman: i didn't d/l the zip.. yes, wav files.
[11:01] <onovy> if i want translate some parts of ubuntu to czech, what i need to do?
[11:01] <Flying-Penguin> is there a way to allow two programs to use the sound driver at the same time?
[11:01] <solar_> right now i am using gnome-ppp to dial up as root/sudo
[11:01] <[Jonne] > i just wanted to check if you guys knew about any issues with it, to rule the faulty cd thing out
[11:01] <fetman> pfp: well.. no.. not that I can see..
[11:01] <[Jonne] > tnx
[11:01] <djs> pfp: on the LiveCD the password is blank.  I don't think "passwd" even asks for it
[11:01] <onovy> who is team leader of localization?
[11:01] <Seveas> Flying-Penguin, let them both use ESD (the default)
[11:02] <Seveas> onovy, every locoteam has a leader...
[11:02] <Gskillet> How do I download modconf for debian?
[11:02] <Gskillet> How do I download modconf for ubuntu*
[11:02] <onovy> Seveas: but czech loco team doesn't exists
[11:02] <solar_> how can i make the default user use the dialup without accessing passwd/
[11:02] <blank_> seveas, after i do that, ( sudo chown -R jorge:jorge ~/.Trash ) do i just open up trash in GUI?
[11:02] <pfp> djs: ahaa... nice, good to know
[11:02] <Seveas> onovy, round up some czech people and form the team :)
[11:02] <blank_> nevermind i got it
[11:02] <Seveas> blank_, yes
[11:02] <Seveas> it will make you the owner of the files again
[11:03] <solar_> anybody got the idea //
[11:03] <Seveas> solar_, adduser 1000 dip
[11:03] <onovy> Seveas: that's not problem, but who i must contact?
[11:03] <Flying-Penguin> Seveas: how do I make cedega xmms and mplayer use ESD???
[11:03] <Seveas> onovy, put your team on the agenda of the CC meetings
[11:03] <solar_> pls complete the command with an example Seveas
[11:03] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[11:03] <onovy> Seveas: thx
[11:03] <Seveas> solar_, that is the complete command :)
[11:03] <ninwa> Is anybody aware of anyway to make "smart folders" in gnome?
[11:03] <solar_> i am a novice users
[11:04] <Seveas> mplayer: put ao=esd in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf, xmms: change the output plugin to eSound; cedega: no idea
[11:04] <rronkivx> i love ubuntu
[11:04] <pfp> fetman: i can see them (i dont understand why the author of that file chose to include the resource forks in the 1st place)
[11:04] <Seveas> solar_, just type that in a root terminal
[11:04] <Seveas> or in a normal terminal type: sudo adduser 1000 dip
[11:04] <solar_> ijust typed it out
[11:05] <solar_> and it says 1000 doesnot exist
[11:05] <pfp> fetman: everything under __MACOSX is basically b/s imo
[11:05] <Seveas> solar_,
[11:05] <rronkivx> Seveas, when installing it didnt ask me for roots password only a user, is my root password same as user's password?
[11:05] <Seveas> ah ok
[11:05] <fetman> pfp: what's b/s?
[11:05] <sobersabre> what is the latest firefox for ubuntu.. guys ?
[11:05] <Seveas> substitute 1000 by your actual username then
[11:05] <anatole> well, logout helped
[11:05] <Seveas> sobersabre, 1.0.2 with 1.0.4 patches
[11:05] <xliu> rronkivx, no, your user password is not the root password
[11:05] <solar_> yeyeah i tried and it says that i am already a member
[11:05] <Seveas> rronkiv: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:06] <pfp> fetman: bullsh*t :)
[11:06] <sobersabre> Seveas, how come then it tries to upgrade itself ?
[11:06] <cmatheson> i read all my mibs w/ snmp... i can see stuff like uptime and ssRawContexts, but for some reason ssCpuRawUser won't come up... any ideas why?
[11:06] <solar_> the problem is that my modem is detected only if i go to a root terminal and start gnome-ppp
[11:06] <rronkivx> i want to make it so other users cant sudo unless they know my password.
[11:06] <cmatheson> solar_, you need to add yourself to the dialout group
[11:06] <onovy> Seveas: i have one small question... if someone traslate something in Ubuntu distro, do you send patch(localization files) to maintainer of that project?
[11:06] <fetman> pfp: hehe
[11:07] <rronkivx> oh so my first user (made during install) is a root user ok,
[11:07] <onovy> Seveas: for example to gnome if someone translate something in gnome
[11:07] <solar_> bye Seveas i will try without su then//
[11:07] <xliu> rronkivx, you can use your first user account to manipulate the root password
[11:07] <fetman> pfp: author must be some cunt :(
[11:07] <blank_> seveas how can i make nautilus have a back/up directory icon/button, or is that not an option
[11:07] <Seveas> onovy, preferably the loco team does that
[11:07] <rronkivx> im in love with ubuntu,
[11:07] <cmatheson> blank_, you gotta edit some stuff in gconf, there's documentation in the wiki on ubuntulinux.org
[11:07] <onovy> Seveas: ok, thx
[11:08] <Gskillet> Trying to use my Bluetooth USB Dongle on Ubuntu keeps returning: Device is not available: Success - I have the bluez drivers and utils, I also have the USB BT drivers enabled in the kernel
[11:08] <blank_> okay thanks cmatheson
[11:08] <Seveas> blank_, i don't understand what you mean
[11:08] <blank_> like you know how if thers a folder called dogs then theres a folder inside called beagles, once inside beagles how do you get back
[11:08] <blank_> without having to click the little select list at the bottom left
[11:08] <Seveas> ahh :)
[11:08] <lsuactiafner> cd ..
[11:08] <blank_> not in terminal
[11:08] <Seveas> you click open parent or the up button iirc
[11:09] <blank_> iirc?
[11:09] <Seveas> blank_, there is the button with the up arrow...
[11:09] <blank_> nope there isnt, thats whyim asking lol
[11:09] <Seveas> ahh, hmm
[11:10] <djs> blank_: iirc = "if I recall correctly" :)
[11:10] <blank_> instead, at the bottom left theres a select list
[11:10] <blank_> oh lol
[11:10] <pfp> blank_: if you use "spatial nautilus" (default i thnk), there's the button in the window's south-east corner
[11:10] <cmatheson> blank_: sorry, it was ubuntuguide.org... you want to check 'apps->nautilus->preferences->always_use_browser in gconf
[11:10] <blank_> yeah its like a select list, thats what im trying to avoid
[11:10] <Seveas> cmatheson, you don't need gconf for that ;)
[11:10] <blank_> okay
[11:11] <Mobius> do you have to buy cedega?
[11:11] <Seveas> Mobius, no subscribe
[11:11] <cmatheson> Seveas, preferences dialogs are no fun ...
[11:11] <Mobius> Is it free seveas?
[11:11] <Seveas> 5 euro per month
[11:12] <Mobius> oh, okay - thanks.
[11:12] <chaunguyen> Hi can anyone help me with setting up network printing from XP box to ubuntu box?
[11:12] <stianj> I updated to breezy today, and now gdm just restarts when I try to login... Anybody seen anything like it?
[11:12] <Mobius> I moved my thunderbird data from my windows XP install, and now when I select my main account thunderbird quietly crashes
[11:13] <chaunguyen> I'm a newbie to ubuntu and linux.
[11:13] <hacktop> thats great
[11:13] <blank_> there we go i like this one now :D
[11:13] <cmatheson> chaunguyen, i would think it would be easier to print from your ubuntu box to your xp box
[11:13] <rronkivx> what does this error mean
[11:13] <rronkivx> Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager: Child terminated with 48 status
[11:14] <Gskillet> Trying to use my Bluetooth USB Dongle on Ubuntu keeps returning: Device is not available: Success - I have the bluez drivers and utils, I also have the USB BT drivers enabled in the kernel
[11:14] <chaunguyen> cmatheson, I want to make my unbuntu box as a server.
[11:14] <Fade> anybody here running ubuntu on a powerbook?
[11:14] <cmatheson> chaunguyen: check out the samba documentation then
[11:14] <xliu> rronkivx, how you get the error message?
[11:14] <oppa68> helo guys...
[11:15] <Fade> my internal dvd-rom drive is basically dead, and i'm trying to get the installer to boot from an external scsi cdrom.. but I don't know what the hardware address should be.
[11:15] <rronkivx> i did a update
[11:15] <oppa68> can i ask some question ?
[11:15] <rronkivx> once the update was done i closed the update window then it poped up
[11:16] <cmatheson> oppa68: just ask, don't ask to ask
[11:16] <blank_> hey seveas, or anyone, is there a program like 'application finder' in mandrake or red hat i forgot which, that adds all the applications you have installed in the menu?
[11:16] <Seveas> oppa68, read the topic: just ask :)
[11:16] <chaunguyen> cmathenson: I did and I was able to see and install the printer to my XP box but when I tried to print a test page..it said "failed to print"
[11:16] <oppa68> if i can't boot to install from CD, how can i install from disket ?
[11:16] <Seveas> blank_, use smeg to enable the debian menu and you'll get just that
[11:16] <blank_> :D
[11:16] <Seveas> I find it terribly annoying though :)
[11:16] <blank_> smeg in the console?
[11:16] <chaunguyen> I have also tried to use Cups as well.
[11:16] <cmatheson> oppa68, hmm... i haven't done anything like this in a long time... is it a permissions problem?
[11:16] <blank_> seveas
[11:16] <xliu> i think it doesn't matter
[11:16] <blank_> seveas, smeg in the console?
[11:17] <xliu> rronkivx, i do not think it does matter
[11:17] <stianj> noone had problems with gdm in breezy?
[11:17] <oppa68> no, i try to install in pentium 166, some how the comp doesn't boot my cd
[11:17] <rronkivx> ok
[11:17] <Gskillet> Trying to use my Bluetooth USB Dongle on Ubuntu keeps returning: Device is not available: Success - I have the bluez drivers and utils, I also have the USB BT drivers enabled in the kernel.  What am I missing?
[11:17] <blank_> nevermind i just installed it with synaptic
[11:17] <Seveas> blank_, www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg
[11:18] <oppa68> maybe not supported isolinux
[11:18] <Seveas> heh, you enabled backports i guess :)
[11:18] <blank_> kay thanks bud
[11:18] <flugh> oppa68, i have an old p166 laptop. it's cdrom drive is too old to recognize a bootable cd unless it's a cd-r that's burned with DAO option set
[11:18] <mattyJ> is there anyway to install ubuntu inside of windows, like to a diff hd then just reboot, and boot into windows or ubuntu?
[11:19] <flugh> oppa68, cd-rw or multi-session discs wouldn't do it for me. maybe similar problem for you
[11:19] <oppa68> ic... where can i get floppy images that i can write with rawwrite2.exe
[11:20] <cmatheson> mattyJ: debian used to have a utlity called loadlin that would let you install from windows... i'm not sure if ubuntu has it or not.  but even if you boot off the cd, you can definitely dual-boot your box
[11:21] <mattyJ> cmatheson: i disconected my cdrom in order to have more harddrives, i could put it back in just to install ubuntu then take it out, but im lazy so was just wondering if there was a way to do it without a cdrom
[11:21] <oppa68> i have try "resc1440.bin" but it doesn't work :(
[11:21] <rronkivx> the terminal that ubuntu uses, can i make the thing transparent?
[11:21] <cmatheson> mattyJ, ok there is... you'll have to find loadlin.exe if it's not on the cd though
[11:21] <ninwa> Is anybody aware of anyway to make "smart folders" in gnome?
[11:21] <rronkivx> nevermind found it
[11:21] <cmatheson> ninwa, what is a "smart folder?"
[11:22] <djm62> ninwa: as in containing search results live?
[11:22] <cmatheson> oppa68, why doesn't it work?
[11:22] <ninwa> djm62, Yes
[11:23] <djm62> ninwa: I think that sort of functionality will be in breezy with beagle, but not as far as I know with the current version
[11:23] <blank_> seveas, where can i find the keyboard shortcuts editor?
[11:23] <oppa68> the monitor say " syslinux .......... boot failed "
[11:23] <blank_> nevermind
[11:23] <Agnir> HI
[11:23] <askinif> need advise with mysql
[11:23] <concept10> anyone use clamav?
[11:23] <ninwa> djm62, Sounds cool, I can wait a few months :) thanks for the info
[11:23] <blank_> is there such thing as a mouse shortcuts editor>
[11:23] <djm62> ninwa: evolution has smart folders for email, but nothing more general than that
[11:23] <Agnir> Eny one whant to help me whit the VLC Media player?
[11:24] <ninwa> right, I meant for the desktop, thanks again :)
[11:24] <blank_> anyone?
[11:24] <djm62> ninwa: beagle will be an awesome thing...really ground-breaking
[11:24] <ninwa> djm62, Where can I read more about the features I should expect?
[11:24] <cmatheson> blank_, what on earth is a mouse shortcuts editor?
[11:24] <concept10> djm62, yeah when they get it working
[11:25] <djm62> concept10: what I managed to rig together from CVS was impressive enough...
[11:25] <we2by> I blocked a site's images with firefox, and now I dunno how to unblock it
[11:25] <xxtreme> agnir go ahead
[11:25] <we2by> any idea?
[11:25] <blank_> lol, like if you have more than 2 buttons and you want to assign one to 'back/up one directory' in nautilus
[11:26] <concept10> djm62, I switched from another distro so I could get beagle working, no luck so far
[11:26] <djm62> ninwa: http://nat.org/demos/
[11:26] <concept10> djm62, I need to learn howto pull apps from cvs
[11:26] <xxtreme> agnir= ask ur question
[11:26] <rronkivxx> I love this install of ubuntu :)
[11:26] <oppa68> flugh, do u know where to get floppy images ?
[11:26] <cmatheson> blank_, there's probably a way, but i don't know how that would be done...
[11:26] <djm62> concept10: the only one I've heard that has it as standard is suse 9.3
[11:26] <cmatheson> blank_, hack the source?
[11:27] <Gibbonz> shouldnt there be hd? entries in dev for your cd/dvd drives, even with udev?
[11:27] <Goshawk> oppa68, you should be able to do your floppies from the ubuntu cd. if you put it o a windows pc and run the rawwrite.exe program
[11:27] <concept10> djm62, how hard it is to pull apps from cvs, gimme a general brief please, what app do you use?
[11:27] <Goshawk> oppa68, but i'm not sure of this
[11:28] <flugh> oppa68, negative. i'd just burn the images myself, but using cd-r and ensuring DAO was checked. i used gcombust myself
[11:28] <Gibbonz> just been looking for the cdrw in whats there and cant find a trace of it :)
[11:28] <djm62> concept10: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HoaryBeagleInstallHowto that has a guide to pulling from CVS, but the build isn't even vaguely smooth
[11:29] <djm62> concept10: omg, are you a geek rower?
[11:29] <ChaniX> hi
[11:29] <Gibbonz> ah thats why.. it has no world permissions.
[11:29] <blank_> man im screwed
[11:29] <ChaniX> who is have a driver for 00:1e.3 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03)
[11:29] <blank_> i think im gonna have to reinstall ubuntu
[11:29] <ChaniX> ?
[11:29] <concept10> djm62, thanks for the link.  geek what?
[11:29] <blank_> i installed a game with cedega
[11:29] <blank_> but now i cant uninstall it
[11:29] <blank_> cause i dont have point2play
[11:29] <eSPete> i have been playing with SMEG (small menu editor for gnome) and now all the stuff in the applications menu is gone. how do i get i back?
[11:30] <djm62> concept10: one of the most popular brands of rowing machine in the UK is the "concept 2"...your nick in decimal
[11:30] <afroman_> someone knows NX windows...???
[11:30] <TokenBad> ok tried to install a file and get that it needs some files...cause the files it needs are not the same as the ones I have on here...is it safe to try and get the newer files?
[11:30] <djm62> TokenBad: when you say "a file", what sort of file, and how do you know what it needs?
[11:30] <TokenBad> its a screensaver
[11:30] <TokenBad> and it spit pack the dependancy stuff
[11:31] <concept10> djm62, heh.  Google "The Talented Tenth"  thats where my name comes from
[11:31] <ChaniX> anybody can help me plz ?
[11:31] <TokenBad> which it spits pack that 3 file/packages are older than what it requires
[11:31] <TokenBad> and I need the newer files
[11:31] <djm62> TokenBad: what sort of file is it?
[11:32] <Gskillet> Trying to use my Bluetooth USB Dongle on Ubuntu keeps returning: Device is not available: Success - I have the bluez drivers and utils, I also have the USB BT drivers enabled in the kernel.  What am I missing?
[11:32] <concept10> ChainX: did you try that link that they gave you in #fedora?
[11:32] <ChaniX> yes
[11:32] <ChaniX> who is have a driver for 00:1e.3 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03)
[11:33] <eSPete> how do i reinstall gnome?
[11:34] <blank_> how can i make fullscreen things like firefox to cover the panels, cause sometimes they stop at the edge
[11:34] <blank_> also, whats the link for the gnome wiki, sorry seveas
[11:35] <cmatheson> blank_, if you want less panels and crap you could just use WindowMaker instead of gnome
[11:35] <blank_> how would i do that
[11:35] <we2by> where deos firefox put my settings?
[11:36] <concept10> you can remove a panel or hide the panels
[11:36] <we2by> damnit
[11:36] <we2by> some one helps please
[11:36] <tsuki>  Err... hi. I, somehow, managed to change space into backspace. Any idea of how to solve that? I'm using Gnome.
[11:36] <concept10> we2by, what settings
[11:36] <we2by> I have blocked a site images, but I dunno how to unblock
[11:36] <cmatheson> we2by, just type 'about:config' in the url bar and you can see them all
[11:36] <blank_> then how did you type what you did tsuki lol
[11:37] <concept10> we2by, goto prefrences
[11:37] <tsuki> Pasting.
[11:37] <blank_> lol
[11:37] <blank_> sucks
[11:37] <blank_> ill help you out, i mean, letting them see your question lol
[11:37] <blank_> tsuki  Err... hi. I, somehow, managed to change space into backspace. Any idea of how to solve that? I'm using Gnome.
[11:38] <tsuki> Thanks... that's helpful...
[11:38] <ChaniX> did anyone have driver for Conexant modem ?
[11:38] <blank_> sevease
[11:38] <blank_> * seveas
[11:38] <we2by> and?
[11:39] <Gskillet> Trying to use my Bluetooth USB Dongle on Ubuntu keeps returning: Device is not available: Success - I have the bluez drivers and utils, I also have the USB BT drivers enabled in the kernel.  What am I missing?
[11:39] <blank_> lol everything all of sudden stopped
[11:40] <concept10> we2by, you cant find it in preferences?
[11:40] <Flying-Penguin> hey what is the command to make a folder?
[11:40] <tsuki> mkdir
[11:40] <blank_> tsuk:i  Err... hi. I, somehow, managed to change space into backspace. Any idea of how to solve that? I'm using Gnome.
[11:41] <ChaniX> ?
[11:41] <ChaniX> ?
[11:42] <we2by> nope, I can't
[11:43] <concept10> we2by, firefox -> edit > preferences > web features > allowed sites
[11:44] <concept10> we2by, or you can just click on the yellow box that pops up when a site is blocked
[11:44] <we2by> yea
[11:44] <we2by> I found it
[11:44] <we2by> :)
[11:44] <we2by> thanks
[11:44] <blank_> can someone help out my bud tsuki
[11:45] <blank_> tsuki  Err... hi. I, somehow, managed to change space into backspace. Any idea of how to solve that? I'm using Gnome.
[11:45] <lee_> any think they can help get my wi-fi card working in my laptop?
[11:46] <Seveas> lee_, see the WiFiHowto on wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:47] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> hey Seveas do ya think ubuntu would work well on a pc with only 64 mb ram ?
[11:47] <lee_> Seveas- i tried working through it already
[11:47] <lee_> I get an error
[11:47] <Seveas> Pop_pa_FrEaK, hmm, you need a large swap and you shouldn't install gnome but fluxbox
[11:47] <Seveas> lee_, and the error is?
[11:47] <bur[n] er> or xfce
[11:48] <Seveas> no, even xfce is too much for 64MB :)
[11:48] <bur[n] er> xfce is at least gtk still :)
[11:48] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> ok will try that out thanx guys
[11:48] <bur[n] er> ouch... fluxbox + aterm isn't all that fun ;)
[11:48] <lee_> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[11:48] <Seveas> Pop_pa_FrEaK, and don't even hope to run firefox/openoffice/evolution on that machine :)
[11:49] <Seveas> lee_, sudo modrobe ndiswrapper
[11:49] <Seveas> modprobe*
[11:49] <lee_> Seveas same error
[11:49] <Seveas> lee_, that's odd..
[11:50] <afroman_> someone can help me with NX windows...???
[11:50] <lee_> yeah i know
[11:50] <lee_> i dont know what is causing it
[11:50] <Seveas> lee_, are you on an intel cpu or amd?
[11:51] <afroman_> Seveas, can U help me with NX windows???
[11:51] <bur[n] er> NX == nomachine?
[11:51] <lee_> intel
[11:51] <afroman_> bur[n] er, yes
[11:51] <bur[n] er> what's the prob afroman_?
[11:51] <Seveas> lee_, sudo aptitude install linux-686, reboot, choose Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-686 when booting and retry :)
[11:51] <bur[n] er> it was pretty straight forward if i recall
[11:52] <alicia> how do I install smbmount
[11:52] <lee_> where can i choose that?
[11:52] <bur[n] er> it sucks you can't show the current display on the remote machine show... ala vnc style
[11:52] <Darkfusion> is abiword 2.2.8 available for ubuntu?
[11:52] <Flying-Penguin> what would be the chmod command to giv me all privs of a folder?
[11:52] <afroman_> bur[n] er, I have NX installed on Windows XP home
[11:52] <ufo-> Flying-Penguin, chmod 777
[11:52] <bur[n] er> client on windows or server/
[11:53] <Seveas> ufo-, NO!
[11:53] <Seveas> chmod u+rwx
[11:53] <ufo-> what?
[11:53] <ufo-> he said all
[11:53] <Flying-Penguin> flyingpenguin@ubuntu:~$ sudo chmod -777 /mnt/windows
[11:53] <Flying-Penguin> chmod: invalid option -- 7
[11:53] <Seveas> 777 gives all users all prevs
[11:53] <Flying-Penguin> wait ooppss no -
[11:53] <afroman_> bur[n] er, and ubuntu on the other computer with VNC, but when I want to connect it doesn't work
[11:53] <Seveas> Flying-Penguin, ah, it's a fat/ntfs disj
[11:53] <Seveas> Flying-Penguin, this will not work for fat/ntfs
[11:53] <Seveas> you need to mount it with the correct options
[11:53] <crazyhorse> Darkfusion, it isn't. the latest version is 2.2.2 and for the unstable breezy it's 2.2.7
[11:53] <Flying-Penguin> yes its a ntfs hd
[11:54] <bur[n] er> afroman_: using nx cilent to connect to ubuntu vnc?
[11:54] <Flying-Penguin> Seveas: how do I mount it?
[11:54] <Seveas> Flying-Penguin, remove all fat/ntfs entries from /etc/fstab
[11:54] <afroman_> bur[n] er, yes
[11:54] <bur[n] er> afroman_: the nx VNC client sucks... use ultravnc or tightvnc clients
[11:54] <Seveas> Flying-Penguin, and download www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab and run that once as root
[11:54] <cmatheson> hey does anyone know what oid i need for context switches (returning a similar value to that in vmstat?)
[11:54] <Flying-Penguin> Seveas: I havn't touched fstab
[11:54] <bur[n] er> i never got the NX vnc client side to work... and tightvnc and/or ultravnc work wonderfully
[11:54] <Seveas> Flying-Penguin, good, then just unmount all ntfs/fat drives :)
[11:55] <afroman_> bur[n] er, I have tightvnc, but how do I make it work???
[11:55] <Flying-Penguin> Seveas: how do you unmount???
[11:55] <Seveas> Flying-Penguin, sudo umount /mnt/windows
[11:55] <ttyS0> don't send me to justfuckinggoogleit.com please :) where can i get mp3 codecs for rhytmbox?
[11:56] <Seveas> yes, it's umount instead of unmount :)
[11:56] <bur[n] er> afroman_: launch tightvnc client
[11:56] <alicia> I'm trying to map a drive at school. I called the helpdesk and they said to use the smbmount command. The only problem is that it says that command is not found. Can anyone help??
[11:56] <afroman_> bur[n] er, to get to run tightvnc on Windows so that I can control Ubuntu
[11:56] <bur[n] er> and connect to the linux box
[11:56] <bur[n] er> that's it
[11:56] <apprentice> so why do people say ubuntu has problems?
[11:56] <Seveas> ttyS0, install gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:56] <Seveas> ttyS0: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[11:56] <bur[n] er> afroman_: http://burner.ath.cx/vncviewer.exe
[11:56] <ttyS0> Seveas: ty
[11:56] <bur[n] er> afroman_: get that and type in your server address :)
[11:56] <siimo> i don't know if the ubuntu cds are doctored or just came damaged - they killed two of my CDRW drives :-( yes physically killed both drives when i tried to enter the openoffice folder on the live cd.
[11:56] <bur[n] er> have fun, gotta work
[11:56] <bur[n] er> peace
[11:56] <Seveas> alicia, use places->connect to
[11:56] <Seveas> and use windows share as service type
[11:57] <cmatheson> alicia, you probably need to apt-get install smbfs
[11:57] <lee_> ok Sevas, i need to reboot and boot in?
[11:57] <tsuki> I, somehow, managed to change space into backspace. Any idea of how to solve that?
[11:57] <Seveas> lee_, you need to choose "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-686" when the grub menu shows up
[11:58] <black-whisp> how do you give a user acces to a specific folder?
[11:58] <Seveas> tsuki, only in the terminal or everywhere?
[11:58] <tsuki> Everywhere.
[11:58] <Seveas> omg :)
[11:58] <Seveas> does rebooting help?
[11:58] <delire> black-whisp: chown -R user folder
[11:58] <tsuki> Nope.
[11:58] <black-whisp> okay.:)
[11:58] <tehmasp> siimo, wow, i'm glad it just plain didn't work for me and i gave up on the live cd
[11:58] <lee_> sorry im new to ubuntu
[11:59] <lee_> Seveas, the grub menu is the?
[11:59] <afroman_> bur[n] er, how do I make tightvnc work???
[11:59] <delire> black-whisp: where 'chown' == "change ownership"
[11:59] <bur[n] er> afroman_: don't be dumb ;)
[11:59] <siimo> tehmasp, i tried two different cds too thinking one of the drives was dead already since ive had it for 2 years and it killed my 4 month old new liteon cdrw
[11:59] <tsuki> It's a pain in the ass pasting all the spaces.
[11:59] <Seveas> lee_, the grub menu is the first thing you see when starting your machine, even before linux itself loads...
[11:59] <bur[n] er> heh
[11:59] <Flying-Penguin> Seveas: I Ran it now what... what do I do to my fstab to make it auto mount?
[11:59] <lee_> k
[11:59] <Seveas> tsuki, i can imagine :)
[11:59] <lee_> brb
[11:59] <Seveas> Flying-Penguin, the script does that for you, you're done now :)