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Seveasthe windows drives are mounted under /media12:00
deliretsuki: use "q u o t e s" ;)12:00
afroman_bur[n] er, the thing is it looks like tightvnc is a vnc server, not a cient12:00
apprenticetsuki: do you know IAN by any chance?12:00
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siimofrom the 2nd drive the cd came out peeled from the sides and with 2mm deep scratches :-|12:00
tsukiNope.12:00
apprenticeoh ok just checking12:00
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Seveastsuki, if you try it in the gdm login screen, does it happen too..?12:00
tehmaspsiimo, damn12:01
Seveassiimo, omg...12:01
deliresiimo: ouch12:01
Seveasthat's a bad cd drive :|12:01
Flying-PenguinSeveas: the folders don't have a folder icon and! it doesn't open them12:01
siimoyeah right12:01
siimoi been using it everyday without a problem12:01
deliresiimo: "don't try it at home"12:01
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SeveasFlying-Penguin, can you please paste your /etc/fstab at paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:02
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tsukiI don't know if it happends in the login screen, but my guess would be yes.12:02
ChoubakaPfft.12:02
ChoubakaDamn Linux and iptables :(12:02
Seveastsuki, please try it...12:02
tsukiAlright.12:02
afroman_bur[n] er, I'm not being dumb, I'm just new to this12:02
tsukiBRB.12:02
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delireFlying-Penguin: manage to sort out your fglrx?12:02
ChoubakaI can't set up traffic shaping, so my latency goes up to 3000 ms when I upload at all :>12:02
SeveasChoubaka, use wondershaper :)12:03
Flying-PenguinSeveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/17212:03
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ChoubakaSeveas: it doesn't work.12:03
ChoubakaSeveas: no effect whatsoever.12:03
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Flying-Penguindelire: !!!!!! yay your on... I needed your help for so long then one person finly helped me... I reinstalled ubuntu.12:03
lee_Seveas, im back12:03
SeveasFlying-Penguin, and now the output of mount (without arguments) too please :)12:03
Seveashi lee_ :)12:03
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lee_Seveas, it automatically booted into that kenel12:03
Seveastry sudo modprobe ndiswrapper again12:03
lee_kernel12:03
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delireFlying-Penguin: you reinstalled??? youch! how come?12:03
ChoubakaAnd I feel like shouting out of frustration.12:03
Seveasah nice, I was expecting that but you never know ;)12:04
ChoubakaQWENFqwefnqufnv wefb etc. damn it12:04
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tsukiSame thing in the login screen.12:04
Seveastsuki, ah!12:04
Seveasnow we at least know it's system wide12:04
lee_Seveas - FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted12:04
ChoubakaI was able to get wroking traffic shaping when my router still had FreeBSD12:04
Flying-Penguin/dev/hdb1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)12:04
Flying-Penguinproc on /proc type proc (rw)12:04
Flying-Penguinsysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)12:04
Flying-Penguindevpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)12:04
Flying-Penguintmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)12:04
Flying-Penguinnone on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=5M,mode=0755)12:04
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delireoops12:04
SeveasFlying-Penguin, NOT IN HERE!12:04
delirewatch that flood12:04
afroman_bur[n] er, I'm not being dumb, I'm just new to this12:04
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delireafroman_: no new Linux user is dumb. what's up?12:05
lee_Seveas> GNULinuxer and I were working on trying to solve this yesterday12:05
lee_Seveas> he said something about compiling something12:05
afroman_delire, thx... I want to use VNC12:05
Seveaslee_, there is the setupndiswrapperhowto on the wiki that lets you compile the thing12:06
Seveassome people have had more success with it12:06
delireafroman_: sadly i don't use it, so cannot help. i believe there is a Howto for Ubuntu out there. perhaps check the Ubuntu wiki page?12:06
lee_Seveas> you have a link?12:06
afroman_delire, I have a windows laptop and Ubuntu pc... I want to use control Ubuntu from windows12:06
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lee_Seveas> i can give it a try12:06
Seveaslee_, can you please type dmesg in the terminal and paste the last 20 lines of output on paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:06
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aliciacmatheson, "root@Alicia:/ydrive # smbmount \\hydrogen.truman.edu\aec047 ydrive -o "username=aec047,workgroup=truman"12:07
aliciaCould not resolve mount point ydrive" what does this mean?12:07
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Seveasalicia, you need to make a new directory and let it mount there12:08
lee_Seveas> its up12:08
Seveaslike: sudo mkdir /mnt/idrive12:08
aliciaI made a ydrive directory12:08
Seveasand use /mnt/idrive in the call to smbmount12:08
cmathesonalicia, i think you need more back-slashes... \\\\hydrogen.truman.edu\\aec047 ydrive... you have to double the backsplashes (i think it has todo w/ bash)12:08
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stephane_bonsoir12:08
afroman_question> is tightvnc a server or client VNC???12:08
Haufhow do I (if possible) use transparent windows in gnome?12:09
lee_Seveas> do you see it on there?12:09
FLeiXiuSHauf: xcomposite.12:09
Flying-PenguinSORRY guys12:09
socomm!xcomposite12:09
ubotusocomm: Are you smoking crack?12:09
socomm!composite12:09
cmathesonHauf, you'll want to check out the Composite extensions to X... it's been way unstable for me though12:09
ubotusocomm: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about12:09
socomm!xcompmgr12:09
ubotuWish i knew, socomm12:09
Seveaslee_, i'm busy, hang on :)12:09
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stephane_p12:09
lee_Seveas> np12:09
Haufthanks i'm going to try it12:09
delireafroman_: have you installed vnc on the windows machine? this may be useful: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/VNC.html12:09
lee_Seveas> let me go ahead and thank you for your help12:10
afroman_question: is tightvnc a server or client VNC???12:10
jasoncohenafroman_, tightvncserver is the server and xtightvncviewer is the viewer12:10
Seveaslee_, ok, can you type this in the terminal: ndiswrapper -l12:10
Seveasand paste the output of that12:10
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SeveasI think I know where things go wrong :)12:10
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Flying-Penguindelire: could you join #flying-penguin I want to ask you a few qustions... but since I am doing so much stuff it will take meh a wile to type it all... and it would be all broken up on this channle. this way you can read it once I am done.12:10
lee_Seveas> Installed ndis drivers:12:11
lee_bcmwl5  invalid driver!12:11
lee_bcmwl5.sys      invalid driver!12:11
Seveassee, it says invalid driver12:11
delireafroman_: i don't use that either (never work with Windows at all). this may be of use: http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/VNC/vnc-over-ssh.html12:11
Seveasyou need to install the correct driver for your card12:11
lee_So i see12:11
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mbruemmerhellp12:11
lee_ok let me try things again, do you have a wiki site i can use?12:11
lee_i had one but when i restarted i forgot to bookmark it12:12
Seveaswiki.ubuntu.com/setupndiswrapperhowto12:12
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tsukiSo, got any idea of what's wrong with my space/backspace, Seveas?12:13
jasoncohenafroman_, you probably will also want vnc4 - so apt-get install vnc4server xvnc4viewer or tightvncserver xtightvncviewer12:13
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Seveastsuki, no idea at all i'm afraid12:13
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Seveastry running xev from the terminal12:13
Seveasand see which keycode the space transmits12:13
afroman_delire is tightvnc a server or client VNC???12:14
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afroman_jasoncohen, why do I need so many VNC products12:14
afroman_???12:14
jasoncohenafroman_, you just need a viewer and a server12:15
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stealhi all12:15
jasoncohenafroman_, a server for the machine you want to connect to and a viewer on the machine you want to connect from12:15
jasoncohenafroman_, there are 3 vnc servers offered in debian12:15
jasoncohenvnc 3.x, vnc 4.x and tightvnc12:15
jasoncoheni would recommend either vnc4 or tightvnc12:15
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steali'm trying to install gnupoc12:16
afroman_jasoncohen, isn't vnc-common and vnc-server enough???12:16
jasoncohenand x11vnc if you want to connect t the current x session (5900)12:16
jasoncohenafroman_, that's for the old version of vnc12:16
stealbut when i try to install makesis i have an error12:16
lee_Seveas> should i just try the several ones that i have until i see one tht worked?12:16
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Seveaslee_, that might be the best option, but remove the installed one before you proceed with the next12:17
jasoncohenafroman_, that's 3.x. you might as well use the 4.x series. which is vnc4server and xvnc4viewer12:17
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Seveasand also: do not use winxp drivers12:17
Seveaswin2k drivers work12:17
lee_oh ok and to remove i use -e?12:17
Seveas(I had the same chip once, asus wl500g)12:17
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Seveasndiswrpapper -h (gives you the syntax)12:17
lee_oh ok well i have winxp drivers, is that ok or should i get 2000 ones?12:17
EkenWhen I Install the 64bit version (both ubuntu & Kubuntu) My audigy sound card will stay silent. The alsa drivers are loaded successfully,but no sound. Strange.  It works with other dists or with the i386 versions of Ubuntu & Kubuntu. Must be a bug in the packs.12:17
stealplease help me12:18
Seveastry the win2k ones12:18
unomeis it okay/recommanded to use backports?12:18
yuachtsteal, what error?12:19
Seveasokay: mostly, recommended: not always12:19
Kyralunome: Yes12:19
Seveasbut they're much better then they used to be12:19
unomeThanks.12:19
KyralI support the Backports fully (even staging is mostly stable)12:19
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aliciaSeveas, i tried what you said and it gave me a long list of options and then this "This command is designed to be run from within /bin/mount by giving12:20
aliciathe option '-t smbfs'. For example:12:20
alicia  mount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar //fjall/test /data/test" Now what??12:20
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lee_Seveas> ok when i tried to uninstall it, it said rm: cannot remove `/etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5.sys': Permission denied12:20
unomeI was just concerned about security using backports.12:20
xabbu|Morning.12:20
Seveasalicia, have you tried the places -> connect to server thing already?12:20
bphanhas anyone installed Enlightenment?12:20
Seveasthat's really the easiest option12:20
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lee_Seveas> and when i tried the same thing but with .inf instead of sys it said it wasnt installed12:20
afroman_jasoncohen, so how does nx work???12:21
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bphanI have a probleem complile eclair <= I always get this error = >>pkg-config  is not in your $PATH. Please ensure it is.12:21
bphanRead the manual page for you shell as to how to extend your path. configure: error: Cannot find pkg-config12:21
aliciaSeveas, yeah... it didn't work. That's why i called the school helpdesk and they told me to do it this way.12:21
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Seveaslee_, use sudo :)12:21
lee_haha12:21
Seveasalicia, ah :)12:21
lee_to remove it?12:21
bphandoes anyone know how to fix this problme?12:21
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lee_so sudo ndiswrapper -e driver12:21
ChaniXmorning xabbu|12:21
Seveastry mount -t smbfs instead of smbmount then12:21
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Seveasthe rest of the command should be the same12:22
jasoncohenafroman_, nx is good for slower links because it's much faster. it also is more secure as it's tunneled over SSH. you'll have to install the nx client & server and set it up. vnc is generally easier to setup12:22
aliciaseveas, i tried and it gave me the same thing12:22
afroman_jasoncohen, so how does nx work??? or tightvnc12:22
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jasoncohenhave you used vnc before?12:22
Funraiserdoes someone has a list of anonymous proxies that actually work?12:22
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jasoncohentightvnc is just another vnc client. nx is different12:23
afroman_jasoncohen, is tightvnc a server or client vnc12:23
jasoncohenit has packages for both - tightvncserver and xtightvncviewer12:23
liz4rdi'm on kubuntu and i was wondering if i do a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop....what version of gnome will i get12:23
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yuachtliz4rd, use synaptic12:24
liz4rdok12:24
afroman_jasoncohen, so what do I do???12:24
yuachtand the latest gnome-version will be your young padawan ;)12:24
yuachtyours*12:25
jasoncohenafroman_, read this first - realvnc.com12:25
rronkivxdo you guys think ubuntu will work on a 3gb hdd?12:25
Seveasalicia, can you please talk to me in private and paste the exact command you used to try mounting12:25
jasoncohenafroman_, it's easy to setup. just apt-get install vnc4server xvnc4viewer12:25
yuachtrronkiv, yes12:25
afroman_jasoncohen, they don't say how it works???12:25
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yuachtrronkiv, you will be pretty limited though, app-wise12:26
jasoncohenafroman_, run vnc4server at the command line as a user and it'll ask you for a password to connect. enter one (i believe it has to be 8 characters or less) and then it'll start the server12:26
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GskilletTrying to use my Bluetooth USB Dongle on Ubuntu keeps returning: Device is not available: Success - I have the bluez drivers and utils, I also have the USB BT drivers enabled in the kernel.  What am I missing?12:26
aliciaseveas, how do I talk to you in private12:26
jasoncohenyou can connect to the server from the client by doing vnc4viewer ip:112:26
afroman_jasoncohen, done12:26
jasoncohenyou can use vnc4viewer or the remote desktop connection tool if you'll be changing servers12:27
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jasoncoheni have a link on my desktop set to connect to my server and i wrote a tiny init.d script to start the server as my user. i then set the resolution in /etc/vnc.conf12:28
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jasoncohenafroman_, kde's remote desktop connection tool is quite nice. it'll allow you to use vnc fullscreen and create profiles for several different servers12:29
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jasoncohenafroman_, if you want to secure vnc which i would recommend doing you can tunnel it over SSH or tunnel it over a VPN12:29
djm62TokenBad: sorted...12:29
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jasoncohenafroman_, you would do ssh -L 5902:localhost:5901 serverip from the client and then xvnc4viewer localhost:2 from the client12:31
jasoncohenthat way, everything is tunneled through SSH12:31
KillerSmurfdoes anyone have exper w/ config a wacom graphire.  I have it running but my buttons are not working right.  It is a 4x5 serial wacom graphire.  any direction?  Thanks12:31
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jasoncoheni just setup an openvpn server/client setup so that my client is granted a vpn ip on a virtual tun adaptor using OpenVPN when i boot up so i can just connect to the VPN ip transparently12:32
afroman_jasoncohen, it works but what about from Windows to Linux12:32
PoliteCyborgIf one were developing a new keyboard which consisted of two parts: one part for both hands and the other part on the floor for your toes to operate, how would one go about designing drivers for such a device?12:33
jasoncohenafroman_, if linux is the client you would connect to windowsip and from windows linuxip:112:33
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jasoncohenafroman_, it's cross platform12:33
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DannoHungGrrr... does anyone have an idea as to why Ubuntu wouldn't be able to get a DHCP address from a wireless ethernet bridge?  I tried it on Windows and it worked flawlessly.12:34
GskilletNeed help trying to use Bluetooth USB Dongle on Ubuntu keeps returning: Device is not available: Success - I have the bluez drivers and utils, I also have the USB BT drivers enabled in the kernel.  Please help, thanks.12:34
steal_hi12:34
KyralDannoHung: Do you have the right WEP keys, etc?12:34
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siorfincan anyone help me install ndiswrapper12:34
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DannoHungUnsecured network12:35
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jasoncohenDannoHung, what happens?12:35
siorfini have it installed and am following directions for ubuntu but the stupid thing wont load12:35
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steal_have u ever install gnupoc for symbianOS on ubuntu?12:35
cmathesonPoliteCyborg: why would that be any different from the drivers on a standard keyboard?12:35
DannoHungLessee, the message is "No DHCPOFFERS received"12:35
Dj_AlTeKSeveas: I got wine to work!12:35
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DannoHungIt jumps back and forth between a couple of different intervals12:35
SeveasDj_AlTeK, awesome!12:35
jasoncohenDannoHung, does it work with a static IP?12:35
florianhi, how can i install latex 2e instead of latex 2.09?12:36
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siorfinanyone know how to install ndiswrapper12:36
DannoHungHmm, haven't tried that yet, let me se if I can make the router play nice for once.12:36
siorfinive been working on this for a day and it is really starting to piss me off, excuse my french12:36
afromanjasoncohen, so???12:36
Dj_AlTeKi also got Ares to run under wine... now i just have to figure out how to install half life 2 and steam under wine12:36
jasoncohenKyral, heh, i still am amazed by the number of unencrypted wireless networks. i use WPA-PSK here12:36
jasoncohenafroman, so what?12:37
AWatcher I am trying to understand if I can get my windows (Ubuntu with wine obviously... thats what I use) program to communicate with the innernet12:37
GskilletDJ_Altek is wine difficult to setup on ubuntu12:37
Dj_AlTeKAWatcher i was running a p2p program on wine in ubuntu just a minute ago12:37
Dj_AlTeKGskillet: depends on which way you go12:37
siorfinndiswrapper, can someone help me12:38
GskilletDj_Altek i can download the package off of Synaptic12:38
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Dj_AlTeKGskillet: whatever you do, do not try to compile the cvs of wine12:38
Dj_AlTeKGskillet, yea12:38
afromanjasoncohen, what prog do I run on windows so that I take control of my Linux machine12:38
Gskilletok12:38
jasoncohenafroman, realvnc.com - download the windows client12:38
jasoncohenclient/server12:38
AWatcherfor example... I have a internet caller id program I use to monitor if I get calls while online... ny1?12:38
xxtremegskillet, wine is cool but most of the apps you want will not work12:39
afromanjasoncohen, isn't tightvnc enough??12:39
DannoHungDangit... this thing has too many menus... can't find the static routing table12:39
Gskilletxxtreme thats what i figure, dont know if i should try it12:39
afromanjasoncohen, what about nx???12:39
Dj_AlTeKAWatcher; is it made for windows?12:39
xxtremegskillet= dont waste ur time, trust me12:39
AWatcherDJ: yes12:39
jasoncohenafroman, well, you need a windows server and tightvnc is just for linux12:39
Gskilletxxtreme i figure it cant interpret the GUI of the stuff i need12:39
jasoncohenafroman, just get the official vnc 4 server/client from realvnc.com12:39
Dj_AlTeKAWatcher, is it set up and working?12:40
jasoncohenfor windows12:40
AWatcherDJ: for my windows XP program yes12:40
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PoliteCyborgcmatheson, because it wouldn't be qwerty12:40
xxtremegskillet= do u have fast box12:40
steal_\12:40
Dj_AlTeKAwatcher: and you want it running on linux using wine?12:40
Gskilletxxtreme nah the one im on right now is a celeron, im using it for network diagnostics12:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYjust a question is ubuntu really affect crappy on board soundcards?12:40
DannoHungAh HAH!12:40
DannoHungTher eit is.12:40
AWatcherDJ: yes!:)12:40
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xxtremegskillet= find another alternative, i went down that road long time ago12:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYso that the prgram using the sound card only puts out 1 sound per program?12:41
Gskilletxxtreme yeah thanks12:41
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cut0ff_hi all!12:41
xxtremegkillet= plus linux can do all the things and more, stick with linux,12:41
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Dj_AlTeKAwatcher: just get wine through SPM and run as user NOT root "wine <insert name of program here>"12:41
Dj_AlTeKand it should start up12:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm sticking with linux but i got to get a better box12:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYthis one really really sucks12:42
AWatcherDJ: SPM?12:42
Dj_AlTeKi got an ok box here12:42
Dj_AlTeKAwatcher: Synaptic Package Manager12:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYmines an ibm netvista12:42
Dj_AlTeKAwatcher: but you got to add two repositories12:42
Dj_AlTeKmine's an old compaq 5420 us12:42
MadHatterok, I have an iPod, but I can't get it to sync with either GTKpod or Rhythmbox12:42
Gskilletxxtreme linux has been great so far, kismet etc.. now i just need to get my bluetooth usb working - thats the only real trouble i have had so far, its so easy on windows12:42
MadHatterany ideas?12:42
AWatcherDJ: the program I use... the one were talking about minimizes to the systray sometimes... is that problematic?12:43
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwith 256mb pc 133 and a 120 gig hd12:43
Dj_AlTeKAWatcher: nope there's gonna be a box that you can move around that acts like the systray12:43
xxtremegskillet= let me do some research on it12:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYit really sucks12:43
AWatcherDJ: Awesome!:D     :D      :D      :D       :D Thanks!12:44
Dj_AlTeKlol12:44
jasoncohenany timeframe on when breezy is going to be in a useable state? I'm currently using debian sid so i don't mind some problems12:44
Gskilletxxtreme thanks for the help, i think im just overlooking something but cant get anyone else to see what im doing wrong, ive got the dongle in.. bluez utils and drivers.. and usb bluetooth is enabled in kernel by default12:44
MadHatterdoes anyone here have an iPod with their Ubuntu?12:44
Dj_AlTeKipods suck!12:44
Gskilletmadhatter use gtkpod12:44
Seveasipods are cool :)12:45
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xxtremegskillet= give me ur info on that device12:45
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MadHatterI have gtkpod, but when I try to sync, it says, iPod directory structure must be present before synching to the iPod can be performed.12:45
jasoncohenand rhythmbox works with an ipod12:45
liz4rdi'm install ing ubuntu-desktop...and WTF is vnc-common?12:45
liz4rdits taking forever to install12:45
liz4rd:P12:45
Dj_AlTeKSeveas: is there anyway i can get MSI installed on my fake windows directory and install from cd's?12:46
liz4rdooh ther it goes12:46
SeveasDj_AlTeK, no idea12:46
Gskilletxxtreme theres no real specifics on it, that's my problem, i got the cheapest thing i could find and its a BluetoothTM USB Dongle12:46
Dj_AlTeKson of a bitch!12:46
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desolatorgood afternoon ubuntu lovers!12:46
jasoncohenliz4rd, it's a package used by vnc-viewer- used for remote desktop connections12:46
xxtremegskillet= we can do this12:46
liz4rdwhoa cool12:46
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desolatorI would like to install ubuntu on a partition12:46
Gskilletmadhatter i think there are some alternatives to gtk, its just the only one i know that is easy to find12:46
desolatoris there anything special I need to know about?12:46
Dj_AlTeKne1 here know how i can get msi installed on my windows directory and install from cd using wine??!!12:47
afromanjasoncohen, I can't get through, I dunno why...12:47
bradyhow do i tell what opengl version i have. specifically, i would like to know if i have opengl 2.0 support.12:47
Gskilletxxtreme the model number is BT3030 if that helps12:47
MadHatterok, I'm going to try to hook it to my old windows box, to see if it causes it to START working.  lol.12:47
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xxtremegskillet= thanks12:47
Gskilletmadhatter try searching for Gnome ipod on google or something12:47
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desolatoris there any cool ubuntu installer12:47
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MadHatterok, thanks Gskillet12:47
desolatoror something really leet and slick about ubuntu12:48
jasoncohenafroman, you have to be more specific. you can't get through to what? are you trying to connect to your linux box from windows or from windows to linux? do you have a firewall running? you'll need to open up port 5900-5901 TCP. are you using the correct ip?12:48
siorfini have downloaded NDISWRAPPER source from synaptic what directory is it stored in so i can compile it12:48
afromanI have installed the vnc real, as U said and i can't view my Linux machine12:48
Gskilletdesolator ubuntu's installer is built in if your doing it off a CD for example12:48
desolatoroh sure!12:48
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Gskilletdesolator ubuntu can be noted for automatically detecting hardware without many problems12:48
desolatorexcellent12:48
desolatorsorry for not reading topic, I am just too distracted latelly12:49
Lunahoodhi @all12:49
bluefoxicysynaptic is smoking crack.12:49
FireJockerhi12:49
bluefoxicyI search for sunbird and get  schoolbell12:49
bluefoxicythe desc has no mention of sunbird12:49
desolatorcrack is bad for your health, so does hping12:49
Gskilletxxtreme i figured that the usb setup wouldnt require much more than bluez, but apparently it does -- maybe my firmware is incompat12:49
siorfincan ANYONE help me? im guessing no since no one has said a thing ;op12:49
afromanjasoncohen, I switched off the firewall... when I double click to VNC viewer 4, a window saying server where I fill in the IP address and I used the right ip address12:49
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desolatornow, lets read the nice and cool stuff at the great ubuntu website ^^12:49
Gskilletsoiorfin maybe try searching for the folder?12:50
jasoncohenafroman, it's not just the address, you must specify the port12:50
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jasoncohenafroman, ipaddress:1 = ipaddress:590112:50
siorfinhow do i do that, i am not familiar with gnome12:50
Gskilletsiorfin try Search for files under places12:50
Lunahoodif there is any german ubuntu user there, who knows about "usb-wlan-sticks" and wpa-psk ... please qry me12:50
jasoncohenafroman, vnc on linux by default uses 5901..then 5902 and so forth. you can run multiple vnc servers- it'll just go up one port12:50
jasoncohenafroman, if you run x11vnc you can use the current X session on 590012:50
Seveaswpa-psk is a bitch12:51
Seveastry wiki.ubuntu.com/wpahowto12:51
munkihow do i get the kernel source in ubuntu ? need it too install vmware .12:51
Seveasmunki, i think you only need the headers for that12:51
jasoncohenSeveas, works fine here12:51
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Seveassudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)12:51
Lunahoodthnx seveas, ill try it12:51
Seveasjasoncohen, here too, but it's a bitch to setup, especially for newbies :)12:52
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jasoncohenLunahood, you'll need to use wpasupplicant which is fairly difficult to setup12:52
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jasoncohenwhat wireless driver do you use?12:52
DannoHooray!  It works now12:52
munkif~jasoncohen-> thnx .12:52
DannoStill strange that it didn't obtain a dynamic address12:52
desolatorwell young lads, thanks for the help12:52
jasoncohenmunki, ?12:52
DannoHmmm... now to see if I can still use it regular like12:53
desolatorwhen you get old and grumpy like me you get to find everything offensive and ugly12:53
KillerSmurfI'm trying to ./configure a driver and I'm getting this error "Unable to compile wacom_drv.o without XF86 build environment or Xorg SDK." What can I do to fix this?12:53
SeveasKillerSmurf, aptitude install xorg-dev12:53
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xxtremegkillet= where u get the driver from12:53
PoliteCyborgdesolator, that's what retirement communities are for. =)12:53
izzoKillerSmurf you need to download xorg12:53
jasoncohenSeveas, that URL doesn't work12:53
Lunahoodi dont understand why "ndiswrapper -l" shows me my "driver present"-status, but iwconfig doesnt show the configured wlan0 interface :/12:53
Seveasbut the wacom drivers are included with ubuntu iirc12:53
desolatorso, I guess Kubuntu works 100% fine12:53
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desolatoroh no12:53
Seveasjasoncohen, then it's removed :((12:53
cmathesonKillerSmurf: you need to apt-get install xlibs-dev12:54
izzoxxtreme I am gskillet my other comp ran out of batteries, i got the driver from Synaptec12:54
desolatorim not going to get into that grave yet :)12:54
KillerSmurfSeveas and izzo Thanks12:54
izzonp12:54
KyralAnyone know why I cannot install XChat 2.4.4 even after I converted the RPM successfully with Alien?12:54
xxtremeizzo= does ubuntu recognizes it12:54
izzoxxtreme it was bluez-driver and bluez-utils12:54
jasoncohenSeveas, i use madwifi + wpasupplicant. do you know if the prism54 cvs supports it? the website is unclear12:54
Seveasafaik it does12:54
PoliteCyborgKyral, it's easier just to compile from source12:54
izzoxxtreme i did a dmesg and i think it is showing a bluetooth reciever connected, no real errors there12:54
izzoxxtreme but when i try to run bluetooth software of any kind it says Device not found: success12:55
KyralYah, its givin me errors about overwriting something used by XChat Common12:55
SeveasKyral, duh...12:55
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Seveasdo not just randomly grab rpms and try to install them...12:55
Seveasthat's SO not going to work...12:55
Kyralso remove XChat and Common and use this one?12:55
Lunahoodare you sure, that the package calls "wpasupplicant" ... doesnt find it with apt-get12:56
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Kyralah never mind I put in a Backports request12:56
Seveas2.4.3 is in the backports, why do you want 2.4.4 specifically?12:56
PoliteCyborgKyral, uninstall XChat and compile from source, and use checkinstall to simplify12:56
djm62if I compile a .deb on my hoary machine, it's just i386 generic and suitable for any hoary machine?12:56
izzoDoes anyone know where the bootlog is stored?12:56
Seveasizzo, /var/log/dmesg12:56
KyralSeveas: I'm one of those guys that wants the latest version :P12:56
Seveasizzo, /var/log/kern.log12:56
izzothx12:56
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PoliteCyborgKyral, and I'm telling you how to accomplish it12:57
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KyralYou have no idea how hard it is for me NOT to upgrade to Breezy right now :P12:57
xxtremeizzo= check infocenter and see is it there12:57
SeveasKyral, ghe, that is so against the spirit of a stable distribution like Ubuntu :)12:57
KyralPoliteCyborg thanks :D12:57
doonzhey you guy recomend some mp3 players that work with this distro12:57
SeveasKyral, I have :)12:57
siorfin500 people and this channel isnt very helpful at all ;op thanks anyways12:57
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xxtremeizzo-kmenu, system, infocenter12:57
Kyrallol12:57
KyralActuallyu I have upgraded, and it nuked my system :P12:57
izzoxxtreme i'm on gnome12:57
jasoncohenKyral, what's so great in 2.4.4?12:58
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xxtremeizzo lol12:58
Kyraldunno, I'm gonna find out :P12:58
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Seveasthe i-have-the-latest-version-kick jasoncohen :)12:58
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Kyralyah :D12:58
Seveaspersonally I prefer stability over that12:58
jasoncohenheh12:58
jasoncohenxchat 2.4.4 in windows supports spellchecking with aspell12:58
KyralNow you know why I stick with the current 2.6.10-5 kernel12:58
jasoncohennow if the linux version had that i would want to ugrade12:58
jasoncohen*upgrade12:58
xxtremeizzo= in gnome, look for hardware, open it up look for that device12:58
Kyraljasoncohen: There is a plugin12:59
KyralXSpell12:59
KyralI12:59
Kyralam using it right now12:59
Lunahoodhow i can find out the "network-chip" of my usb-wlan-stick ?12:59
Seveasjasoncohen, spellchecking on irc, LOL12:59
izzoxxtreme ill check out12:59
Seveasas if anybody will use it :)12:59
xxtremeizzo= ihad the same problem with a thumbdrive12:59
KyralI do :P12:59
jasoncohenKyral, cool- is it included in sid?12:59
SeveasLunahood, try lsusb after you plug it in12:59
Kyralwhat XSpell?12:59
izzoxxtreme now im having problems with my stupid network card, strange how other stuff breaks when trying to fix something12:59
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jasoncohenyeah12:59
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afromanjasoncohen, it works but not I was expecting... I get to control the Linux computer but I don't see what is on the screen nor does the screen show what I'm doing12:59
Kyralgo to the scripts portion of the XChat Site12:59
afromanjasoncohen, not like from Linux to Windows01:00
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AWatcherDJ: I can't find any info on SPM (Sysntetic Package manager) an why I need it with wine:/.......01:00
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Kyralso I just do ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall?01:00
jasoncohenafroman, what do you mean you don't see what you're doing?01:01
jasoncohenKyral, thanks01:01
Kyralnp01:02
Curlydavehey01:02
Curlydavedoes anyone know hwo to reinstall/reset gnome01:02
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Curlydaveso that it actually loads01:02
Curlydavethat would rock01:02
PoliteCyborgKyral, unless you want extra options01:02
Kyrallike?01:02
SeveasCurlydave, what is the current error then?01:02
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PoliteCyborgKyral, see any readme/install files for info01:02
Kyralokay01:03
afromanjasoncohen, what I'm doing on my windows machine can't be seen on the linux machine01:03
jasoncohenafroman, so if you vnc into the windows machine..you can't see what you're doing on the windows machine?01:03
CurlydaveSeveas: no error, just a mouse cursor and tha'ts it01:03
jasoncohen*vnc into the windows machine from linux01:03
CurlydaveSeveas: i can get into x, or an emergency console and shit works if i know the command01:03
CurlydaveSeveas: but if i try gnome i just get a cursor01:04
Curlydavewhich blows01:04
Seveaskinda...01:04
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Seveaswhich version of Ubuntu are you running?01:04
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afromanjasoncohen, U see I run vnc to run Ubuntu on Windows01:05
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afromanjasoncohen, but what I was doing on my windows machine I couldn't see it onthe Ubuntu screeen01:05
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xxtremegskillet= did u download bluez01:06
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phinnaeuswhat is the procedure forgetting sensors for gdesklets?01:07
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jasoncohenafroman, well, what did you see on the ubuntu viewer?01:08
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fnoyhi01:08
t0lkmanget the new user of ubuntu01:08
t0lkmanthanks for the OS01:08
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fnoyi just installed ubntu01:08
t0lkmannow please help me, install mp3 codecs01:08
fnoycan some one tell me how to install kde01:08
djsfnoy, !restricted01:08
Seveast0lkman: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support01:08
djs!restricted01:09
ubotusomebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:09
fnoy..01:09
Curlydavehey online somoeme posted how to reinstall the system or something liek that01:09
t0lkmanbecouse i would like to listen some music ;)01:09
Curlydavebut it needs su01:09
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Seveasfnoy, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop01:09
Curlydaveand su tells me "sorry, authentication failed"01:09
t0lkmanSeveas,  big thanks dear01:09
Curlydavewhat's up with that?01:09
Seveasfnoy, and a few minutes later you have KDE :)01:09
fnoythx01:09
fnoythx pal01:09
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xxtremefnoy= you need to install kde3.401:09
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Curlydavedoes anyone know how to use su?01:09
fnoyyes01:09
phinnaeusdoes anyone know how i can access my second hard drive?01:10
phinnaeusi cant seem to get it01:10
Seveasxxtreme, well, better install kubuntu-desktop for a good KDE experience :)01:10
jasoncohenCurlydave, ubuntu uses sudo01:10
Curlydavewhy is it appologizing and saying authentication failed?01:10
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xxtremefnoy= first you need to add more source to ur repository list01:10
jasoncohenCurlydave, "reinstall the system or something like that"?01:10
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Curlydavejasoncohen: i was told for what i'm doing it's too hardcare for sudo and i need su01:10
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yuachthwo do i chmod a folder with sudo to make my user able to read/write it?01:10
fnoyok01:10
xxtremefnoy= then synaptic kde 3.4base01:10
Curlydavebecause i can't get into gnome anymore01:10
apollo2011I am trying to install AIM for Linux and I am not sure if I use Debian 2.1 or Debian 3+ package for Ubuntu Hoary01:10
SeveasCurlydave, nothing is too hardcare for sudo...01:10
jasoncohenlol, too hardcore for sudo?01:10
djm62Curlydave: somebody is telling you fibs...01:10
Seveasxxtreme, well, better install kubuntu-desktop for a good KDE experience :) <---01:10
jasoncohenwhat are you trying to do anyways?01:10
Curlydavehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4361701:10
mz2if i have a folder in which i have an album as mp3's with no id3 tags, how do i get them to be identified and tagged through cddb?01:10
Curlydavehere you go01:10
Seveasnot just kde3.4...01:11
revildab[tm] have some of the debian repositories changed with the release of sarge? I keep getting update errors on 2 adresses, md5 mismatches01:11
Curlydavemake gnome work01:11
jasoncohensudo command or sudo -s to get a root shell01:11
apollo2011I am trying to install AIM for Linux and I am not sure if I use Debian 2.1 or Debian 3+ package for Ubuntu Hoary01:11
Curlydaveand then it'll work? k i'll try that ty01:11
ThE__OnEhow can i play avi files?01:11
jasoncohenCurlydave, wait a second01:11
xxtremeseveas= first he needs the base package u agree01:11
Curlydavek01:11
jasoncohenCurlydave, before using some random command- how exactly doesn't gnome work and what command are you using to fix it?01:11
phinnaeuscan someone help me access my second hdd ?01:11
ThE__OnEi tried mplayer, vlc, and Totem01:11
Seveasxxtreme, kubuntu-desktop installs that01:11
battlecatYou know the Debian people are really rude!01:12
Seveasxxtreme, please read up on metapackages...01:12
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AWatcherif I type: WINEDLLOVERRIDES="ole32=n" wine dcom98.exe :::::::: How does wine know where the dcom98.exe file is?01:12
apollo2011I am trying to install AIM for Linux and I am not sure if I use Debian 2.1 or Debian 3+ package for Ubuntu Hoary01:12
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djm62battlecat: which is why I use ubuntu, at least partially....the ubuntu folk are really friendly so ask away01:12
apollo2011is Ubuntu based on Debian 2.1 or 3+?01:12
xxtremeseveas= he doesn't have that yet01:12
jasoncohenCurlydave, one of the ideas of having a root user or using sudo is to make you think before using a command. so what are you trying to do?01:12
Curlydavejasoncohen: my bro said he rebooted his comp, and now all he gets when booting into gnome is a mouse cursor on a brown background01:12
phinnaeushmmm01:12
Curlydavejasoncohen: i just want gnome working, and i don't know what i'm trying to do01:12
jasoncohenapollo2011, you use the hoary package - why not try gaim01:12
Curlydavehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4361701:12
Seveasxxtreme, then he should upgrade to hoary01:13
Curlydavei'm doing what xine recommends on that post01:13
Seveaskde on warty will not be a fun ride01:13
xxtremeseveas= im taking him the right wat01:13
apollo2011jasoncohen:  I have gaim now but it doesn't have a search feature.  I don't see a ubuntu package for the actual AOL Aim01:13
concept10battlecat, I watched the whole thing, what do you need help with01:13
jasoncohenapollo2011, there isn't one01:13
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Seveasxxtreme, not really, KDE on warty is NOT the right way...01:14
t0lkmananyone can suggest me some php editor?01:14
jasoncohenyou need to download it from their site i think01:14
jasoncoheni don't believe debian has one either01:14
apollo2011jasoncohen: so should I try the Debian 2.1 or 3+?01:14
ghostlessI'm having problems installing VMware...Has anyone here successfully installed it?01:14
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jasoncohenapollo2011, you mean AIM's site has debian packages- try the most recent one - 3.1 if they have it01:14
Seveast0lkman, vim01:15
Razor-Xhmmm... is the Das keyboard really worth it...01:15
jasoncohenit probably won't work though- do they have a source package?01:15
apollo2011jasonchoen: yeah they have a linux version believe it or not01:15
SeveasRazor-X, yes :D01:15
battlecatconcept10: I am looking to have a set of offline packages on CD.01:15
jasoncohenCurlydave, then follow the directions that guy gave you to create a root account01:15
jasoncohenCurlydave, i don't see why you can't do it with sudo01:15
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Razor-XSeveas: but the Ctrl key is weighted at 60 grams01:15
battlecatconcept10: I do not have a highspeed connection for hte linux box.01:15
jasoncohenand if gnome is broken, why re-install the entire system01:15
jasoncohenwhy not just gnome?01:15
Razor-Xerrrr, 80 rather01:15
t0lkmanseveas one more thanks01:16
concept10battlecat, depends on what package you are looking for.  You can install from the cd using synaptic01:16
Seveast0lkman, nvu (from backports)01:16
jasoncohenapollo2011, try the 3+01:16
t0lkmanand one more question, there is something like macromedie dreamveaver for html WYSIWYG design ?01:16
jasoncohenapollo2011, though i wouldn't except good debian package from AOL01:16
Seveast0lkman, nvu (from backports) <--01:16
t0lkmanok thanks01:17
Razor-Xi've noticed something... the hardware 'geek' is nothing close to a true linux geek01:17
ThE__OnEsomeone help me, how can i play .avi files with ubuntu? I tried Totem, VLC(dont play audio), MPlayer.01:17
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SeveasThE__OnE: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support01:17
jasoncohenapollo2011, what do you mean gaim doesn't have a search feature?01:17
Razor-XThE__OnE: what codec does it use?01:17
SeveasThE__OnE, it's probably divx/xvid if you cannot play it01:17
battlecatconcept10: okay I like that synaptic prog but what if I have no internet connection and want say cinepaint or kino?01:17
Razor-XSeveas: and what explains VLC?01:17
jasoncohenapollo2011, tools > search for buddies by email01:18
apollo2011jasonchoen: I would prefer not to use AOL software either.  gaim doesn't allow you to search for people's sn01:18
apollo2011hmm01:18
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djm62oh damn,  apt-zip?01:18
ThE__OnExvid is not playable?01:18
AWatcherI was reading this site: http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=ishield :::: and it says to type WINEDLLOVERRIDES="ole32=n" wine dcom98.exe to install DCOM98.  Now... Question is... if I grabbed dcom98.exe, how does wine know where to get it... I mean, I seen no directory change and path in this command;)01:18
ThE__OnEin ubuntu?01:18
SeveasThE__OnE, not by default01:18
Razor-Xwhy is the Ctrl key weighted at 80 grams?01:18
Seveassee the url I gave you01:18
concept10battlecat, if its not on the cd, you need a internet connection01:18
Razor-XThE__OnE: see the wiki link Seveas gave you01:18
ThE__OnEok01:18
apollo2011jasoncohen: hmm didn't see that because it is in a sub menu01:18
djm62concept10: battlecat: not necessarily...apt-cache show apt-zip01:19
apollo2011jasoncohen: screw the AOL software now!01:19
jasoncohenapollo2011, lol- what do you mean search for people's SN?01:19
battlecatconcept10: I see. Well that means I go back to windows where I can DL progs and burn them to CD I guess damn01:19
jasoncohenapollo2011, you search by email- you add the SN, lol01:19
apollo2011yeah01:19
concept10battlecat, your connection doesnt work in linux?01:19
jasoncohenapollo2011, holy crap- i have 7 accounts on my old email address!01:19
jasoncohenfinally a way to find all my accounts01:19
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Nardok guys01:20
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apollo2011lol01:20
battlecatconcept10: The computer running Linux is not connected to the network and frankly I dont want to go buy hardware to do so. I use it for offline work like graphics and such anyways.01:20
AWatcherdoes ubuntu have cvs installed automatically01:20
jasoncohenapollo2011, and gaim is constantly getting security updates... AIM's window software is crap. their linux stuff is probably even worse.01:21
concept10battlecat, you dont have a nic?01:21
jasoncohenAIM allows you to execute binaries and VB scripts by clicking on links - dumb shits01:21
djm62battlecat: apt-zip (possibly running the scripts on cygwin) will let you use apt without an internet connection01:21
apollo2011I know I didn't want to use AIM.  The AOL software is messed up countless of me and my friend's computers :-P01:21
jasoncohenAWatcher, i doubt it - apt-get install cvs01:21
battlecatconcept10: I do not have one no.01:22
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battlecatconcept10: The computer I want to run Ubuntu doesnt even have a modem01:22
Burritohi every101:22
Razor-Xanyone here use a Das keyboard?01:22
jasoncohenconcept10, do you use ubuntu? we were just talking about #debian.01:22
Burritodoes somebody have a tv capture card chipset saa7130?01:22
battlecatconcept10: I has a nice set of ram a great video card and several external hard drives01:22
jasoncohenBurrito, the wonder of google - http://linux.bytesex.org/v4l2/saa7134.html01:23
t0lkmanoh i have more questions... i have downloaded skype skype_1.1.0.13-1_i386.deb   how i install it? on fedora i did rpm - i01:23
battlecatconcept10: What I am interested in are progs like inkscape and cinepaint and kino.01:23
concept10jasoncohen, I run alot of distros, ubuntu, bsd, debian and fedora01:23
jasoncohenBurrito, modprobe saa713401:24
concept10jasoncohen, ubuntu desktop, everything else server01:24
revildab[tm] does installing kdebase still play havoc with the main gnome menu?01:24
Burritobut01:24
Burrito7130=7134?01:24
jasoncohenconcept10, i use debian sid on my desktop, sarge on my server01:24
djm62revildab[tm] : installing kubuntu-desktop?01:24
Curlydavejasoncohen: i got root working01:24
Curlydavejasoncohen: but now it's pulling the whole bullshit error,  run apt-get update to fix it01:24
concept10jasoncohen, im trying to learn *nix, not just a distro, thats why I frown on #debian guys for being rude to people01:24
Curlydavebut apt-get update does stuff01:25
Curlydavebut it doenst' fix it01:25
jasoncohenconcept10, i'm waiting for breezy. hoary trashed my mdk install so i'm about leery of it and esd didn't work properly in hoary but it works fine in sid with gnome 2.1001:25
ghostlessI am having trouble installing vmware...When I try to install it I get errors like "unable to copy file" or something else related to permissions...And I am running it with sudo...But it's like I don't have full privelages...Any ideas why?01:25
revildab[tm] djm62: no, just the base required files.  Im looking to install a wireless config that requires kde libraries, but i dont really want to do it if it will add unecessary entries to the gnome menu01:25
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jasoncohenCurlydave, you shoudl apt-get update01:25
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concept10jasoncohen, mdk?01:25
jasoncohenconcept10, what do you use BSD for?01:25
battlecat:) Its been fun guys but it looks like it is back to WinXP for me.01:25
mcquillgI'm trying to compile something from source and I keep running into this configure error: checking size of long long... configure: error: cannot compute sizeof (long long), 7701:26
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jasoncohenconcept10, mandrake- now mandriva - used 9.1 through 2005 LE- then switched to debian01:26
battlecatCant get any work done if I am tinkering with the OS all day01:26
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mcquillgI haven't found a consistant answer for fixing it. Any ideas?01:26
jasoncohenbattlecat, what's the problem?01:26
concept10jasoncohen, nothing currently - I have no use for it now, I will be setting up a server on it soon.01:26
Curlydavejasoncohen: i did apt-get update, like it said01:26
djm62battlecat: ach well, look in again in october...things are only improving01:26
Curlydavejasoncohen: that did alot of things01:26
Curlydavejasoncohen: however, fixing the problem was not one of them. it still did it again01:26
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concept10jasoncohen, I have 4 boxes that are networked in my closet that I just screw around with, just trying to learn *nix01:27
t0lkmananyone please help me install skype ;[01:28
jasoncohenconcept10, cool01:28
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jasoncohenCurlydave, what exactly is the error?01:28
netsurfi love skype :)01:28
mcquillgHas anyone had a "sizeof (long long)" configure problem when compiling something from source?01:28
djm62gah...I guess tokenbad is working01:28
t0lkmannetsurf,  help me use it ;] 01:28
netsurfwhats the problem with it?01:29
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AWatcherwhat is the wine system directory location?01:29
yuachtwhereis wine01:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know how to configure the mail app in krellm?01:30
AWatcherthat actually works01:30
TokenBadwho was helping me with electricsheep i forgot his nick01:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYgkrellm even01:30
AWatcher?01:30
djm62I've compiled the latest version of electricsheep as a .deb for hoary i386:  there's one error when installing (tries to overwrite file provided by xscreensaver), how do I fix that, and where can I constructively put the package?01:30
yuachtAWatcher, yupp01:30
mcquillgno love for source compilations?01:30
ThE__OnEso for sound to be played, i need to install it on ubuntu?01:30
djm62TokenBad: what gnus?01:30
netsurft0lkman, what is your problem with it?01:30
t0lkmannetsurf,  i can install the .deb on my amd6401:30
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TokenBaddjm62, it don't work just sits on that screen...never changes01:30
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t0lkmani have downloaded it, what my next step?01:31
mcquillgHas anyone compiled anything on a Ubuntu system?01:31
netsurft0lkman do you have the x64 package for it?01:31
djm62TokenBad: !01:31
t0lkmani am sitting and looking on the distrib ;] 01:31
mcquillgProblems, yes, no?01:31
TokenBadI let it sit for good 15 mins01:31
t0lkmannetsurf,  i dunno, what was on the skype web site01:31
TokenBadwhich is more than it says should be01:31
IFRFLYRHI, little kismet help? Trying to find out why it's dying at "Unable to set up pidfile /var/run//kismet_server.pid, couldn't open for writing:" Erm.. I never set it at /var/run//kismet (how can I *unchange* it?)01:31
netsurfhmm01:31
t0lkmanbut on fedore i run it01:31
djm62TokenBad: I'm lost, then...mine didn't work for a while, then I did System->Lock Screen and it must have downloaded in between01:32
t0lkmanso if there is 64bit version for fedora, i suppose there is also for ubunta01:32
TokenBadsystem lock screen?01:32
TokenBadwhat is that?01:32
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netsurfso what does it do on attempted install?01:33
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t0lkmani dunno even how to start install ;] 01:34
t0lkmani never have installed the .deb01:34
stevenjIs evince better than acrobat reader? thanks01:34
netsurfahh01:34
netsurflol01:34
netsurfhmm01:34
djm62TokenBad: System menu, menu item Lock Screen01:34
netsurfwhat is command for .deb install anyone?01:34
rob^was someone talking to me?01:34
TokenBadok01:34
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QMarioWhere can I get the Java plug-in for Mozilla Firefox?01:35
djm62TokenBad: saves on waiting for screensaver timeout01:35
netsurft0lkman01:35
IFRFLYRnetsurf: dpkg package01:35
t0lkmannetsurf,  dunno01:35
netsurftty01:35
netsurfok01:35
t0lkmandpkg ?01:35
t0lkmanok i'll try01:35
netsurfso dpkg "exact name.deb"01:35
netsurfbtw01:35
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netsurft0lkman01:36
netsurfhttp://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=1012501:36
netsurfcheck that out for 64bit01:36
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zerokillsnetsurf: ummm, i havent used it before, ive heard: 'alien -i packagename' is used for .deb files01:36
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t0lkmanhmm netsurf  let's me see01:36
t0lkmanbecouse mine isi skype_1.1.0.13-1_i386.deb01:36
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AWatcherI downlaoded a fair amount of programs as rpm, and now that i have ubuntu, I'd like to keep those ones I already have... can it work? I am dialupper01:37
netsurfya so should be "sudo dpkg -Uvh skype_1.1.0.13-1_i386.deb01:37
phinnaeuscan someone help me access files off of my second hard drive?01:37
netsurfis that right anyone?01:38
tanekAWatcher: you mean to convert .rpm to .deb?01:38
NeloThe update manager has been wanting to upgrade my kernel headers for some time now but each and every time I receive the following error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.2_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko', which is also in package ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.10-5-386  any ideas what to do?01:38
Razor-XAWatcher: try using alien01:38
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phinnaeusplease?01:38
t0lkmannetsurf,01:38
t0lkmanoot@atilian:/home/t0lkman/Desktop # dpkg -i skype_1.1.0.13-1_i386.deb01:38
t0lkmandpkg: error processing skype_1.1.0.13-1_i386.deb (--install):01:38
t0lkman package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)01:38
t0lkmanErrors were encountered while processing:01:38
t0lkman skype_1.1.0.13-1_i386.deb01:38
t0lkmanthat is what i got01:38
Razor-Xuggghhh!01:38
QMarioPhinnaeus, shouldn't show as a filesystem?01:38
Curlydavejasoncohen: oh, no error01:38
Razor-Xno spamming!01:38
netsurfahhhhh01:38
Razor-Xif you have more than 3 lines of output, please post in #flood or pastebin01:38
QMarioPhinnaeus, shouldn't it show as a filesystem?01:38
Curlydavejasoncohen: just nothign mroe than a mouse cursor, unless i do failsafe terminal, in which case i get a terminal in teh corna01:38
phinnaeusQMario, no it is only showing one filesystem01:39
tanekAWatcher: if that is what you mean, then: sudo apt-get install alien fakeroot&&fakeroot alien *.rpm01:39
phinnaeusit is fat01:39
phinnaeusfat3201:39
netsurft0lkman, did you read the forum instructions?01:39
AWatcherconvert rpm to deb using that alien?01:39
t0lkmannetsurf,  am doing that now ;] 01:39
Razor-Xt0lkman: isn't it obvious?01:39
netsurflol01:39
netsurfok01:39
QMarioMaybe only Linux compatible filesystems show or it is hidden?01:39
Razor-Xdo you know what architecture is, t0lkman?01:39
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Razor-XQMario: vfat has been Linux compatible for quite a while01:39
t0lkmanRazor-X,  but why i hadn't troubles with fedore?01:40
phinnaeusQMario, so how can i get it to show?01:40
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Razor-Xand, Linux has been installed on FAT16 partitons, read up on UMSDOS01:40
netsurffedore is rpm is it not?01:40
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liz4rdhow do i set KDM to default instead of GDM01:40
Razor-Xt0lkman: do you know the concept of architecture?01:40
QMarioI don't know. Have you searched on google?01:40
t0lkmanRazor-X,  no01:40
t0lkmannetsurf,  yes it is01:40
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Razor-Xt0lkman: you do understand that an AMD64 is different from an i38601:40
t0lkmannetsurf,  there is very simple to installl01:40
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t0lkmanRazor-X,  understand...01:41
phinnaeusno i thought i would come here first01:41
t0lkmanRazor-X,  so what to do?01:41
netsurftolkma, i know i use suse01:41
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Razor-Xthe AMD64 is a 64 bit chipset, the x86 system of processors are 32 bit01:41
t0lkmannetsurf,  in suse also rpm ?01:41
Razor-Xt0lkman: use skype_1.1.0.13-1_amd64.deb if there is one01:41
t0lkmanRazor-X,  and if there isn't ?01:42
Razor-Xdid you buy this computer from a store and not know that it's AMD64?01:42
t0lkmancan i install their 64bit rpm version on ubuntu?01:42
QMarioPhinnaeus, try this site: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ptopic38580.html01:42
Razor-Xt0lkman: either complle it, or you're out of luck01:42
Razor-Xt0lkman: yeahp01:42
netsurft0lkman, yes suse is rpm based i am talking to you on it now :P01:42
t0lkmanof course i know that my computer has 64bit01:42
Razor-Xnetsurf: ewww, that shit distro?01:42
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netsurfthanks01:43
SysFailwhy the hell would you be in here on suse?01:43
netsurfso kind01:43
Razor-Xt0lkman: odd that you didn't know what in i386 i01:43
liz4rdhow do i set KDM to default instead of GDM01:43
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QMarioPhinnaeus, look at this one too: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-34450.html01:43
Razor-Xnetsurf: well, it really is a crap distro01:43
netsurfcoz i got a question on ubuntu 64bit01:43
Razor-Xholds your hand even more than Fedora01:43
phinnaeusoh thanks QMario01:43
netsurflol true01:43
netsurfi suppose01:43
t0lkmanRazor-X,  so any ideas how to install skype on ubuntu 64bit ?01:43
Razor-Xt0lkman: use alien, i'm assuming you know how to bring up the manual page for its syntax01:44
QMarioYour welcome. :)01:44
SysFailalien works like a dream01:44
Razor-XSysFail: not always, not always ;)01:44
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SysFailits never failed me yet01:44
SysFailworks perfect01:44
t0lkmanRazor-X,  bad help from you01:44
Razor-Xt0lkman: mmmm?01:45
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skywaterhello. is it possible for ubuntu to connect to a windows networking?01:45
Razor-XI don't just give people a command, I tend to try to teach them something so that they don't ask a variation of the question in the future01:45
AWatcheralien works like a dream eh'?01:45
SpecialBuddyhow can I write to NTFS01:45
t0lkmanRazor-X,  in fact all what did you say here, didnt help me ;[01:45
SpecialBuddy?01:45
Razor-Xbut, impatient people don't like that ;)01:45
Razor-Xt0lkman: did you use alien?01:45
djm62SpecialBuddy: there is a thing called captiventfs01:46
Razor-Xit seems most people want a command, and then leave ;)01:46
t0lkmanRazor-X,  i am reading manual now ;] 01:46
AWatchermaybe I should grab all the contents of my FC2 DVD and convert the good rpm's to alien;)01:46
SpecialBuddydo I have to download that?01:46
netsurfooohh01:46
Razor-Xt0lkman: ahhh, then, it should be pretty easy01:46
SpecialBuddydo I have to download that?01:46
t0lkmanRazor-X,  let's see ;] 01:46
djst0lkman, I understand there is a way to run 32 bit apps on AMD64 using chroot (unfortunately that's all I know but google should know more)01:46
Razor-Xdjm62: you have to recompile the kernel for Captive-NTFS in Ubuntu01:46
djm62SpecialBuddy: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/01:46
netsurfwould apt get have skype 64bit?01:46
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Razor-Xdjs: oh yeah, I forgot about that...01:46
t0lkmandjs thanks to you too01:46
NeloI've been trying to install the linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 update, but I get an error stating that linux-image is  trying to overwrite the ndiswrapper.ko? anu ideas how to fix this?01:46
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djm62SpecialBuddy: no need to repeat, and this comes with the severe caveat that Razor-X mentioned01:47
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truz24Is there a reason why DMA is turned off when i restart for my CDROMS?01:47
SpecialBuddythanks01:47
crushI'm having the same problem with ndiswrapper.01:47
Gskillettruz24 you have to add it to your boot file01:47
Razor-Xodd... no-one here uses a Das Keyboard01:48
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djsskywater: yes there is.  Have a look at Places -> Network Servers01:48
djm62SpecialBuddy: you probably just should treat ntfs as read-only...it's a closed system and not reliable01:48
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netsurfok my question anyone had a problem with grub? on 64bit platform01:48
SpecialBuddywhat do I do at this site01:48
netsurfmine cannor mount the system01:48
Gskillettruz24 read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA?highlight=%28DMA%2901:48
Razor-Xnetsurf: 64 bit really isn't working for you, is it?01:48
netsurflol no01:48
crushI'm guessing that you'd have to remove the driver, update with the wired connection and setup ndis again.01:48
Gskillettruz24 it has a section at the bottom on making DMA start on boot01:48
crushI haven't tried it yet though.01:49
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Razor-Xnetsurf: pastebin your menu.lst01:49
netsurfbut then it is a friends i am helping with ubuntu01:49
zukalkNelo, i had that problem too. there's probably an easier way to solve it, but i simply uninstalled ndiswrapper and updated the linux-image, then reinstalled ndiswrapper :p01:49
netsurfpastbin?01:49
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AWatcherhow can I query to see if I got cvs in ubuntu?01:49
masterlokihi there does anybody know how to mount fat 4 all users01:49
masterloki??01:50
Razor-Xnetsurf: pastebin, yeah01:50
netsurfwhats that lol sorry01:50
Razor-Xit's a site you can paste stuff too01:50
netsurfahhhh01:50
Razor-XAWatcher: a simple man cvs01:50
djsAWatcher, do you mean whether it's installed or whether it's available?01:50
djm62SpecialBuddy: I can't help you anymore than that site can, I'm afraid.  you can transfer data with a removable hdd formatted to FAT or a FAT partition, running captive-ntfs isn't recommended unless you really know your stuff01:50
Razor-Xnetsurf: you mean, till now you've been flooding the channel? ;)01:50
AWatcherits installed... whether its installed...01:50
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Nelocrush found the solution check http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3758601:51
phinnaeushey doesn anyone know if there is a way to change the mount point of an hdd?01:51
CybermagellanDo we have an ubuntu font?01:51
yuachtphinnaeus, sure01:51
CybermagellanLike the logo?01:51
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GNULinuxerphinnaeus> there is01:51
netsurfooops sorry01:51
Razor-XSpecialBuddy: repartition the NTFS, and shrink it to include a small FAT partition01:51
yuachtphinnaeus, just use umount /dev/device and then remount it01:51
GNULinuxerRazor-X> hi dude01:51
phinnaeusoh ok01:51
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Razor-XGNULinuxer: hey01:51
phinnaeusthanks yuacht01:51
netsurfrazor-x not very accustom to the chatrooms and there toys :P01:51
djm62phinnaeus: you can unmount it and mount it elsewhere.  if you want to change persistently, it's in /etc/fstab but remember to create the mount point01:52
SpecialBuddythanks for the help01:52
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fidgetdoes anyone know the comand line to open the screen resolution gui?01:52
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Razor-Xnetsurf: heh, well, you sohulda read the topic01:52
Burritohi01:52
djsAWatcher, yes "man cvs" in a terminal window would confirm01:52
Burritoi have a question01:52
GNULinuxerBurrito> ya01:52
fidgetdoes anyone know the comand line to open the screen resolution gui?01:52
netsurfrazor-x ???01:52
Burritowhere is this: /path/to/kernel/source/tree ??01:52
Razor-Xno-one here uses a Das Keyboard? if it's so good, where's the non-proprietary testimonials from Linux users?01:52
Razor-Xnetsurf: .............. IRC channels have topics01:53
Razor-X*shoulda01:53
djm62Razor-X: nobody buys a special keyboard...01:53
netsurflol01:53
netsurfya01:53
djm62too generic01:53
GNULinuxerfidget> gnome-display-properties01:53
Razor-Xdjm62: I use a Dvorak one, meself, and a trackball01:53
fidgetaye much thanks GNU01:53
Razor-XI buy a special keyboard01:53
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djm62Razor-X: bah, proves the rule ;)01:53
Razor-Xit's the only way to compute, everything personalized to my tastes01:54
Razor-X;)01:54
BurritoGNULinuxer?01:54
GNULinuxerBurgundavia> what is your q?01:54
Razor-Xmost people bitch at me saying that Dvorak isn't standardized, I don't give a crap01:54
GNULinuxerBurrito> what is your q?01:54
Razor-Xmy everything is configured to my personal preference01:54
Burrito where is this: /path/to/kernel/source/tree ??01:54
netsurfok g2g now will ask anothertime01:54
netsurfbye01:54
linlinI need to add a second DHCP obtained IP address to my machine. How can I do this?01:54
Razor-XOS, terminal emulator, Word-Typesetter (no, I don't use a word procesor), mouse, keyboard, everything01:55
GNULinuxerBurrito> /usr/src/linux01:55
Razor-Xthat's the beauty of Linux -- total customization01:55
Burritook01:55
GNULinuxerRazor-X> you use LaTeX ?01:55
Burritothanks01:55
djm62Razor-X: end up like teco...unusable by anyone else :)01:55
djm62he uses lyx, I bet01:55
dabaRlinlin, what do you need?01:56
Burritothats like C:/Windows in windows?01:56
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GNULinuxerBurrito> no01:56
Razor-XGNULinuxer: would rather die than use Word anymore ;)01:56
dabaRdo you have 2 NICs on your computer?01:56
linlini need to get a second ip address that points to the same machine01:56
Burritowhat is then?01:56
linlinno just one01:56
GNULinuxerBurrito> windows doesn't have a source tree any where01:56
dabaRwell, htf would that work::)01:56
Razor-Xdjm62: this machine is pretty unusable, Dvorak+Linux+trackball01:56
Razor-Xand with a keyless keyboard, it's even better01:56
GNULinuxerBurrito> what exactly is your query about?01:56
dabaRwhat you want, I think is virtual servers...am I getting anywhere with that?01:56
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Razor-Xstill, if the Ctrl key is weighted too much... my emacs'ing will get disrupted01:57
Razor-Xand I can't have that, now can I? ;)01:57
GNULinuxerRazor-X> is there a good ssh shell emulator for emacs?01:57
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Razor-XGNULinuxer: unfortunately... no :(01:57
GNULinuxerRazor-X> oops01:58
Razor-Xlemme look it up, though01:58
djm62Razor-X: more power to your elbow...I just have a large .emacs and .zshrc so the terminal implements DWIM ;)01:58
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Razor-Xdjm62: a ZSH user, eh? heh, I use BASH meself01:58
Razor-XI may switch to ZSH though...01:58
dabaRlinlin, for what do you need that?01:58
exaltedHi, what was the meta-package name to install all development tools at once?01:58
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GNULinuxerexalted> build-essentials01:58
BurritoGNULinuxer>01:58
icasarachtdoes anyone know anything about ndiswrapper01:58
SmokingFireathlon kernel or intel kernel on amd athlon board that supports sse01:58
exaltedGNULinuxer, thank you01:58
Razor-Xicasaracht: there's a wiki entry on that01:59
Burritowhat does this means? -->make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.01:59
Burritomake: *** [default]  Error 201:59
linlinbecause i do :), is there a way to do it or no?01:59
GNULinuxerBurrito> why do you want to know that?01:59
Razor-Xand, to most people's surprise, everything on my computer follows an ANSI standard01:59
Burritolook, i have a tv card and y want to set it up01:59
Razor-Xicasaracht: don't remember offhand, google 'ndiswrapper ubuntu' and you'll find it ;)01:59
crushI have ndis wrapper installed and working.01:59
GNULinuxerBurrito> talk privately01:59
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crushWhat's your quetsion about it?02:00
Razor-Xabout the ANSI standard... it's more than a Windows user can boast about ;)02:00
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dabaRlinlin, I dont think exactly as you are visualizing it(I may be wrong, I dont think so, tho...) If you tell me what you are trying to acomplish, I may be able to tell you how it is implemented within computers.02:00
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dabaRis it to do with web hosting?02:01
linlinok, what i want to do is have one ip address on my server DMZ'd in my router, then, on a seperate ip address protected by nat still, i want to run the sshd and all the other daemons that i want on my lan, but not out on the big bad internet02:01
flodinea guys i need a progarm so take screenshot from the terminal help02:02
cthulfuegoflodine: import -window root ss.png; install imagemagick02:02
dabaRI do that with two NICs, I think, if I get what you are saying, a network that interfaces the internet only on one computer, and is internally connected to other computers at home...02:02
Curlydavefuck this02:03
Curlydavei'm just reformatting02:03
Curlydavethe HD's still accessable02:03
linlinyes, but i only have one nic02:03
dabaRso you get an IP address for each NIC.02:03
linlini know its possible02:03
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dabaRok, good luck:)02:03
linlinive had dedicated servers with more than 1 ip address and only one nic before02:03
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cthulfuegoYes, just add an ip to eth0:102:04
linlinhow?02:04
cthulfuegoifconfig eth0:1 192.168.10.1002:04
linlinand is there a way to make that ip address assigned by DHCP ?02:04
cthulfuegoDone02:04
cthulfuegolinlin: yes, via interface s5)02:04
cthulfuegolinlin: yes, via interfaces (5)02:04
SmokingFireI saw this bounty hound for Ubuntu. Its about Ubuntu and giving apt-get a "click and go"  feel like Lindows/Linspire does.02:05
linlinSmokingFire, yeah except ubuntu isnt gay :)02:05
SpecialBuddywhat should I do if I want to install windows xp now02:05
ShadowWlfAnyone have any idea on a prob where programs close themselves (trying to help a friend)  Xchat and irrsi keeps self terminating, and /var/logs/ it said root had a crontab to killall xchat irssi.   that hadn't been set, and when look at the crontab jobs, it doesn't show anything like that in there02:05
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dabaRhey, linlin, you are gay?02:05
nbx909|linuxhello02:05
linlinnoo02:06
dabaRhaha...02:06
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linlin:(02:06
linlinhow do i use this interfaces (5) thing?02:06
SpecialBuddyWhat should I do if I want to install windows xp and make a dual partition02:06
SpecialBuddy?02:06
cthulfuegolinlin: type 'man 5 interfaces' alnd look at the examplea and documentation.02:06
nbx909|linuxi was wondering how well ubentu would run with 128mb of ram and 750 mhz processor02:07
SmokingFirelinlin: I was was thinking of ubuntu merging its apt - get data with gnome files.02:07
cthulfuegolinlin: Also see /etc/network/interfaces and compare to what is already there.02:07
yuachtnbx909|linux, depends on what you're using it for02:07
flodinecthulfueg i installed image but how do i take the shot02:07
cthulfuegonbx909|linux: Should be OK, but more tram would be better.02:07
cthulfuegoflodine: ;man import'02:07
dabaRSpecialBuddy www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/frontpage/searchwiki windows.02:07
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linlinlinlin:~# ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.10.1002:08
linlinSIOCSIFADDR: No such device02:08
linlinSIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device02:08
SpecialBuddythanks dabar02:08
Curlydaveubuntu=a pain in the fucking ass02:08
linlinwhats that mean02:08
cthulfuegoDo you have an eth0 ?02:08
lmhdoes anybody have a clue about xinerama and multihead?02:08
Curlydaveit's good until gnome breaks02:08
linlinyes02:08
dabaRCurlydave that is why I use debian...02:08
SmokingFireSpecialBuddy: Insrtalling winxp after or before (linux) Ubuntu?02:08
cthulfuegoCurlydave: Are you using breezy?02:08
ThE__OnEhow come i cant get audio from a avi video file?02:08
ThE__OnEhow cna i fix that?02:08
gm78Curlydave : OK, then why are you here? :P02:08
nbx909|linuxinstall windows before linux always02:09
SpecialBuddyafter02:09
SpecialBuddyI tried doing it that way and it kept screwing it up02:09
yuachtThE__OnE, depends on what your issue is... you only trying to play that avi or u have music playing in the background?02:09
Kim_HageyUmm, This is the first time I've ever seen ubuntu and was wondering where I can go to get info on how it all works...02:09
cthulfuegolinlin: Did you compile your own kernel?02:09
Razor-Xscreen doesen't work with emacs02:09
Razor-Xhow said -_-02:09
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macarthyhi all02:09
linlinnope02:09
ThE__OnEthe avi has audi, iam sure of it because its amovie02:09
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cthulfuegoRazor-X: Surely emacs has _builtin_ screen functionality.02:09
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Dj_AlTeKboo!02:09
copilotKim_Hagey, http://www.ubuntuguide.org02:09
macarthywhat is the apt command to find the package that has file X02:09
Kim_Hageythanks02:10
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Razor-Xcthulfuego: well, what if I have a screen session running for compatibility's sake?02:10
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revildab[tm] anyone know a good wireless configuration utility for gnome?02:10
dabaRhaha, that is a nice place to learn how it all works...02:10
netsniperAnyone help me with gdesklet-startermenu not working?02:10
SmokingFireSpecialBuddy and all of the channel please link to this site: http://ubuntuguide.org/02:10
dabaRtry ubuntu.com02:10
netsniperrevildab[tm] , the built in one02:10
cthulfuegomacarthy: dpkg -S /path/to/file (if it's installed) otherwise 'apt-file' or '/msg ubotu find <file>'02:10
macarthythanks02:10
cthulfuegoRazor-X: That's not The Emacs Way[tm] 02:10
ThE__OnESmokingFire, that guide need serious update02:11
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revildab[tm] doesnt support wpa-psk :\, at least not under the gui, i dont know where the config files themselves are stored02:11
Razor-Xcthulfuego: true... I don't know why the hell i'm ranting about 'compatibility'02:11
lmhdo you have a clue about merging 2 monitors with the radeon - driver?02:11
cthulfuegoRazor-X: ;-)02:11
Razor-Xbut, the reason I used screen up till know is that, I can leave my sessions up forever02:11
netsniperrevildab[tm] , your loinux driver may not support WPA anyways02:11
lmhnobody?02:11
Razor-Xcthulfuego: as I said above, my whole user environment is uncomon (yet ANSI standardized)02:12
Razor-Xso i'm proud to be the utmost non-conformist and the utmost in standardization02:12
macarthyapt-file is another package?02:12
netsniperrevildab[tm] , also -- all wifi encryption is easily crackable -- just use MAC filtering instead -- some people may not be able to used your network if their drivers dont support WPA -- mine doesnt even in windows02:12
cthulfuegomacarthy: yep02:12
SmokingFireThE__OnE: It doesn't matter that much as ubuntu --> linux -->unix --> hasn't changed in 20 years.02:12
cthulfuegomacarthy: it downloads package lists so it can search for files. if it's a once off, /msg ubotu find foo might be quicker.02:13
Razor-XSmokingFire: a _tad_ bit wrong ;)02:13
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Curlydavegm78: because my bro's comp runs linux for some reason02:13
netsniperyea, really wrong -- look at CDE compared to Gnome 2.10 !02:13
Razor-XUbuntu --> Linux --> Minix --> Unix02:13
macarthycthulfuego, what the hell is /msg?02:13
cthulfuegomacarthy: A command.02:13
Curlydavegm78: and it was working breat until gnome broke02:13
Razor-Xmacarthy: is today your first day on IRC?02:13
dabaRan IRC command02:14
Razor-Xi've learned something helping out on this channel02:14
cthulfuegomacarthy: A way to commuinicate with an irc user or bot privately.02:14
macarthyoh sorry !02:14
macarthythough you meant in the command line02:14
cthulfuegoRazor-X: there is nothing at all someone won't break "by accident" due to wilfullness?02:14
Razor-Xintelligence isn't guaged by class, or by many other things, it's one's capability to change when convinced one thing is better to the other without obsessive pushing02:14
flodinea guys i just put ubuntu on a dell laptop with a linksys wireless-G adapter but no connection help02:14
ThE__OnEok, i cant get audio working, can someone help?02:14
gm78Kim_Hagey : www.ubuntuguide.org02:15
Razor-Xwhich the majority of denizens on planet Earth don't do ;)02:15
macarthytoo tired....02:15
flodineanyone on a wireless card02:15
cthulfuegoflodine: You'll need to find out what driveer that card needs and then install it (may require ndiswrapper and windows driver)02:15
netsniperflodine, me -- and hey i rmemeber you02:15
flodinewell where do i get the drivers from02:16
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netsniperfloater, what card?02:16
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flodineand are the linux drivers or winblow02:16
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ThE__OnEhello?02:16
_Simoncan someone help me with smbpasswd please? I'm trying to add an account, I don't have an /etc/samba/smbusers, should I?02:16
cthulfuegoflodine: That ddpends on the card model, which we can't look up for you. Google is your friend.02:16
_SimonI created one but it still doesn't work02:16
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flipyhi!02:16
flodineok02:17
flipyis there any chance to install ubuntu64 on a bios-raid?02:17
flodinegoogle where are you02:17
ThE__OnEwhen i go to Multimedia Systems Selecter, the test botton does'nt work in audio02:17
flodinecome here boy02:17
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cthulfuegoflipy: If there are binary-only linux drivers from the manufacturer, yes. but even then you don't _want_ to.02:17
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flipybut I've to keep my current raid array02:18
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cthulfuegoflipy: Then I reckon you're out of luck.02:18
flipyoh I see... :(02:18
cthulfuegoflipy: Can you back up the data on the array, then do an install with kernel software raid?02:18
SmokingFireI love ubuntu but I have no ideas of its business plan do any of you do?02:18
flipybut I've to use m$ for some programs @ university02:19
cthulfuegoSmokingFire: When to start making profits, they're going to invest them in a dairy herd and start a cheese farm.02:19
lmh------- Anybody with a clue about multihead / xinerama / two monitors on a radeon-card?02:19
amonkeycan i have multiple instances of totem open?02:19
Razor-Xwtf!02:19
Razor-Xwhy did Alt stop behaving like meta................... -_-02:19
gm78SmokingFire : I'm reconning (yes, i spelled that wrong) they are going to target the African Software market, since Red Hat doesn't offer support in Africa and I don't think Novell does either.02:20
transgressthat'll be handy when i run off to jamaica02:20
_Simondoes smbpasswd -a add lines to smbusers? because nothing happens when I fill out a password02:20
gm78SmokingFire : much the same way Red Hat gained the North American Linux Market02:20
transgressand novell the european...02:20
transgresswho has asia?02:20
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ThE__OnECan someone help me pleasee?02:20
transgressNo Speak Of that Linux?02:21
transgressThE__OnE: with what?02:21
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gm78transgress : asianux and red carpet linux02:21
ThE__OnEmy audio never plays in the video file02:21
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AegirQuick question, is their anything in particular to watch out for when doing an upgrade to Breezy?02:21
ThE__OnEinfact i cant play the avi file in any other program other than VLC02:21
transgressThE__OnE: what video format is it/02:21
gm78ThE__OnE : lol, u need an easier to type name. what program r u using02:21
ThE__OnEVLC02:21
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transgressgm78: it's called the tab button02:21
Razor-Xgm78: you don't use tab-complete?02:22
ThE__OnEthe avi file dont play in either totem or mplayer02:22
transgressThE__OnE: vlc isn't a video format... avi is... so umm... you got the w32codecs?02:22
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HrdwrBoBtransgress: strictly avi is not a video format either, it's a container02:22
ThE__OnEVLC does'nt need codecs02:22
flodineok guys anyone got the linksys wireless-G wpc54g working in linux02:22
gm78transgress : lol, didnt know gaim could do that, thx for the tip02:22
transgressHrdwrBoB: shut up.  ;)02:22
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SmokingFirecthulfuego  , gm78: I really wonder what they want to make money of.... HP now supports Ubuntu as I gathered from slashdot. But they unlike RH offer servers versions for free.02:22
ThE__OnEVLC program plays the video but no audio02:22
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flodineimport -window root ss.png; install02:23
flodine                     imagemagick02:23
transgressThE__OnE: but you are asking about totem and mplayer ...02:23
danedoes anyone know if it matters if you install ubuntu as root during setup?02:23
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gm78ThE__OnE: try installing the win32codecs from mplayerhq.hu02:23
transgressand i'm not real familiar with vlc... but i'd imagine it has to have something to play certain file types02:23
bob_does any one have a guide to setting up ubuntu to connect to a 2k3 AD server? ...as a client?02:23
ThE__OnEi cant get any audio playing in ubuntu in general02:23
danehey02:23
transgressThE__OnE: no actually grab the w32codecs from the repo from marillat... it'll be a bit more... standard.02:23
danewhat driver do you have the02:23
gm78ThE__OnE: is ur sound card supported in linux normally?02:23
transgressThE__OnE: does sound play at all?02:23
ThE__OnEhow am  i supposed ot know that? lol02:24
transgresswell there are start up sounds02:24
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danebugzilla and wiki has fixes02:24
SmokingFireI really think that Ubuntu is much better then xandros, Lindows, mandrake or what ever02:24
ThE__OnEwell it makes noices when logging in and logging out02:24
danewhat soundcard do u have02:24
transgressokay so sound does work... i'm betting money on it being an integrated sound card02:24
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ThE__OnEi know know =/02:24
ThE__OnEdont02:24
bob_lspci02:24
bob_...and find out02:24
ThE__OnEi dont know =/02:24
danedo u have another os it works for?02:24
likkashotI quick question is the Cpu frequency monitor realy working02:24
gm78the02:25
likkashotit tells me I got a 1ghz02:25
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transgresslikkashot: what do you have?02:25
gm78likkashot: what kind of cpu u got?02:25
likkashotAMD6402:25
ThE__OnEPackage w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:25
transgressdear god what the fuck happened to good grammar?02:25
likkashot3500+02:25
transgressThE__OnE: it's in the marillat repo02:25
gm78ThE__OnE: u need to grab it from another repository02:25
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transgresslikkashot: is it a laptop?02:25
likkashotno02:25
Nardok i need someone who will walk me step by step on the installation of skype because i can't figure out how to do it02:26
SmokingFirebob_: I don't know but check out http://ubuntuguide.org/02:26
ThE__OnEwhich repository?02:26
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bob_SmokingFire, thanks... will do02:26
transgressNard: umm i think there is a wiki02:26
Nardreally02:26
doonzdo ipods work under ubuntu?02:26
transgressThE__OnE: MARILLAT02:26
lmhdoes anybody have a clue on how to setup two monitors on a dual-head graphics-card to merge them?02:26
danethere is a wiki and bugzilla02:26
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gm78ThE__OnE: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs02:26
ThE__OnEwhats the link to it?02:26
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SpecialBuddyhow do you uninstall something02:26
netsniperdoonz, yes, gtkpod02:26
transgresslmh: yeah grab the ati control thingy... it makes it easier02:26
likkashot1ghz is less then half my cpu :(02:27
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Nardi've looked at the wiki and everything and i can't figure it out02:27
gm78SpecialBuddy: sudo apt-get remove package or remove it in synaptic02:27
transgressThE__OnE: GOOGLE UBUNTU RESTRICTED CODECS02:27
cthulfuegolmh: Yeah, I used to run like that on a Matrox card with _open_ drivers. Google helped me a lot.02:27
lmhtransgress: did that, still doesnt work02:27
transgresslmh: linux gods hate you?02:27
lmhcthulfuego: read a lot02:27
CybermagellanAre there any programs to make fonts in Linux?02:27
transgresslmh: is the card detected properly?02:27
lmhtransgress: aparently02:27
lmhno02:27
SpecialBuddysynaptic is the place to uninstall and install then?02:27
transgresswell that's probably the problem then02:27
transgresslmh: did you follow the wiki on installing it?02:28
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lmhtransgress: is a his card with a radeon 9550 chipset02:28
djm62TokenBad: are you still having no luck?02:28
lmhtransgress: yes02:28
ThE__OnEtransgress, calm down iam new at this ok?02:28
gm78likkashot: query me and post the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo02:28
transgresslmh: that wasn't a sentence.  and try this "locate nvidia.ko" and tell me if it returns anything02:28
gm78ThE__OnE: I opened a private chat with u, talk to me there, k?02:28
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zythBurrito!02:28
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lmhno, card has an ATI Radeon 9550, no NVidia02:29
Burritowhats up?02:29
transgresslmh: i'm aware of this.  run the command anyway.02:29
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danefor the 1st time everthing on my computer works under linux!!!02:29
Burritozyth?02:29
zythomg02:29
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danelaff02:29
zythBurrito, I was just saying the word, cause I am eating one, i didn't realise someone had it as a nick02:29
zythsorry :)02:29
transgressdane: well mine's been that way for a while... but still... that's why i'm about to go to freebsd and try to make it all work heh02:29
likkashotvendor_id       : AuthenticAMD02:29
likkashotcpu family      : 1502:29
likkashotmodel           : 702:29
likkashotmodel name      : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+02:29
likkashotstepping        : 1002:29
likkashotcpu MHz         : 2010.34602:29
Burritojajajaja!!!02:29
likkashotcache size      : 512 KB02:29
likkashotfpu             : yes02:30
likkashotfpu_exception   : yes02:30
likkashotcpuid level     : 102:30
zythlikkashot, don't paste in here!02:30
transgresslikkashot: for christs sake don't flood you asswhore monkey man02:30
likkashotwp              : yes02:30
likkashotflags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 pni syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow02:30
zythuse paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:30
zythGRR02:30
daneI like ubuntu so far02:30
likkashotbogomips        : 3976.8402:30
likkashotTLB size        : 1088 4K pages02:30
likkashotclflush size    : 6402:30
danehad to do some tweaking02:30
likkashotcache_alignment : 6402:30
lmhtransgress: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko02:30
danebut02:30
likkashotaddress sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual02:30
likkashotpower management: ts fid vid ttp02:30
likkashotooops02:30
likkashotsooory02:30
likkashotdamn02:30
likkashotrelax02:30
likkashoti said sorry02:30
daneits gonna save me a bunch of money switching to linux!!!02:30
transgresslmh: you need to delete that then reboot to get the fglrx module to work right02:30
likkashotok then the monitor is crap02:30
transgresslmh: assuming you already configured it in your xorg.conf02:30
zyth#gentoo and #debian have more people than #ubuntu :(02:30
exjinnbut it won't save you money on your car insurance02:30
transgresslikkashot: i hate you.02:30
transgresszyth: imagine...02:30
danelol02:31
likkashoti love u02:31
transgresszyth: why not try to troll.02:31
Brett18ubuntu install freezes02:31
netsniperzyth, yes, because they need the most help -- Ubuntu is too easy!02:31
zythtransgress, I am too tired to troll.02:31
zythlol netsniper02:31
transgressBrett18: try turning off acpi at boot02:31
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Brett18ok02:32
danehow do I view ntfs partitions under linux?02:32
transgressdane: you mount it02:32
danewith?02:32
transgressmount02:32
zythdane: mount -t ntfs /dev/hdX /mountpoint02:32
daneo02:32
yuachtdane, www.ubuntuguide.org02:32
yuachtcheck that out02:32
daneok02:32
danei will02:32
danethanks02:32
yuachtnp02:32
SmokingFireYou need this url in the header of this channel http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity02:32
transgressSmokingFire: no we don't02:33
cut0ff_spanish version: www.guia-ubuntu.org02:33
transgressa distros measure of worth shouldn't be it's number of users... it should be how well it works... measuring the popularity is just asking for flaming.02:33
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TokenBaddjm62, yeah its still not loading02:33
SmokingFiretransgress: To show were ubuntu is at!!!!02:33
netsniperwhy isnt UbuntuGuide.org in the channel topic?02:33
transgressnetsniper: i guess because it's "unofficial" ... iuno... it should be... although i prefer the wiki to it.02:34
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djm62TokenBad: can you download http://djm62.freeshell.org/electricsheep_2.6.2-1_i386.deb and see if it's the same as the package you made?02:35
transgressubuntuguide and the wiki conflict on some things... and my experience has been the wiki ended up better.02:35
transgresswhat is electricsheep?  someone said something about that the other day02:35
djm62TokenBad: by using "diff file1 file2"02:36
transgressand it entertained me since i was reading "Do androids dream of electric sheep" atm02:36
cthulfuego!info electricsheep02:36
ubotuelectricsheep: (Screensaver showing collective dream of sleeping computers), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.5-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 410 kB, Installed size: 872 kB02:36
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lmhtransgress: still doesn't work02:36
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omenkaHI all UBuntu Users02:37
cthulfuegoSmokingFire: The aim of Ubuntu isn't to have 20,000,000 little kids using it to get the stats up.02:37
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transgresslmh: try running flgrxconfig as root... going through that... then seeing as it's a bug and names what should be xorg.conf to XFree86-4 rename that... open it and change the word Keyboard to keyboard... then reboot.02:37
netsniperI think 20,000,000 little kids should be using it02:37
omenkaI,m new to Ubuntu....finally succeeded in installing Ubuntu on my laptop afetr trying other distros but my sound card is not workin.....'02:38
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transgressomenka: what kind of sound card?02:38
=== djm62 suspects the softmodem
lmhtransgress: already been through that, it doesn't find my card as it is a HIS card and no ATI card02:38
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lmhtransgress: but with ATI chipset02:38
omenkaCan anyone help?I have a Toshiba Tecra 8100 and my sound card is an s3 savage/mx card02:38
transgressSOL perhaps?02:38
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xabbuHave someone here used Enlightenment? And got it to work in Ubuntu!02:39
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karlllli just installed ubuntu and haven't gotten the option to set the root password.. where do i do that?02:39
cut0ff_have you managed to do gmail as storage system??02:39
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Darkfusionwhat's the latest version of KOffice available for ubuntu?02:40
djm62!root02:40
ubotumethinks root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:40
rogerkarllll, you can set it by typing "sudo passwd"02:40
djm62karllll: what ubotu said02:40
lmhxabbu: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/wiki/windowmanager:enlightenment_installieren02:40
lmhxabbu: german though02:40
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djm62karllll: you don't need a root passwd and it's another thing you can forget02:40
xabbudamn, I have to start practise my old german skills then. :)02:40
netsniperomenka, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-11096.html02:40
Brett18i used pci=noacpi. still freezes during installation02:40
lmhtransgress: could you have a look on my xorg.conf /log file?02:40
lmhtransgress: http://www.koeln.it/xorg.conf02:41
transgresslmh: pastebin them and give me the link02:41
transgressk02:41
lmhtransgress: http://www.koeln.it/xorg-log.txt02:41
transgresslmh: didn't run fglrxconfig did you?02:41
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Brett18freezes during "installing base system"02:41
karllllin gentoo, theres a portage directory.. is there something simliar in ubuntu?02:41
lmhtransgress: b4 yes, but dind't work02:42
transgresskarllll: not really...02:42
djm62karllll: not really.  the downloaded packages are in /var/cache/apt/archives02:42
cut0ff_have you managed to do gmail as storage system?  anybody?02:42
karllllhow do i see what the package names are, to apt-get them?02:42
karllllahh.02:42
transgresslmh: try doing all of what i said step by step... run it... open it and change where it has Keyboard to keyboard... then mv it to xorg.conf and then reboot02:42
lmhtransgress: i got it already working, but my system crashed02:42
djm62karllll: apt-cache search keyword02:42
lmhtransgress: ok02:42
djm62karllll: or the same thing in synaptic (the gui)02:42
karlllllast thing: how would i go about installing kde or enlightenment?02:43
Brett18help please02:44
transgresskarllll: sudo apt-get install kde enlightenment02:44
djm62karllll: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will give you the ubuntu-flavoured full kde setup02:44
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transgressaptgetting kubuntu-desktop broke crap massively for me02:44
transgressi hear just getting kde works out a bit better.02:45
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Brett18i just want to install it02:45
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djm62ah, I defer to experience then02:45
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transgressit's weird... neither gdm or kdm would boot to kde or gnome after i did the kubuntu-desktop install... but from kubuntu i did ubuntu-desktop and it works w/o a problem02:45
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karllllwhen i 'apt-get install kde' theres a message that says "package kde is not available, but is referred to by another package"02:46
transgressumm hold then02:46
blackomegais it possible to install off the live cd02:46
rogerkarllll, look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallingKDE02:47
rogerkarllll, although that basically just says to install kde or kubuntu-desktop :)02:47
karllllthanks02:47
Brett18i can't install ubuntu02:48
transgressas i said though... kubuntu-desktop broke for me... so if you try that... back stuff up first just in case02:48
lmhtransgress: Probing PCI bus for a supported graphics device...02:48
transgressBrett18: that can happen sometimes... try different cheat codes... if none work... sorry.  some hardware gets pissy.02:49
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lmhtransgress: unable to find any of the subsequent graphics boards:02:49
lmhtransgress: ...02:49
transgresslmh: SOL perhaps?02:49
Brett18why would it freeze during the package installation?02:49
lmhsol = ?02:49
transgressshit outta luck02:49
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lmhtransgres: SOL.02:50
transgressBrett18: did you check your discs integrity.02:50
Brett18yea02:50
rogerBrett18, what kind of hardware are you installing it on?02:50
transgresslmh: sorry man... it's beyond me.02:50
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Brett182.93GHz celeron, 1GB ddr ram, 80GB, 7GB hard drives02:51
netsniperAnyone use GDESKLETS???02:51
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Brett18same thing happens with fedora and gentoo02:51
zho40anyone use multisync to sync thunderbird address book?02:52
rogerBrett18, where exactly does it fail with gentoo?02:52
Brett18during the package installation02:52
omenkahey.....i run a cybercafe in africa......and want to migrate all my systems to the Linux platform using Ubuntu LInux...please could anyone recommend any good linux cybercafe timer?????02:52
Kyralnetsniper: I do02:53
CybermagellanHow do I edit the session manager to remove xfce and kde and put enlightenment on there?02:53
rogerBrett18, well which package? are you doing stage 1 / 2 / 3? if you know exactly where it fails you can try to narrow down what the problem is02:53
Razor-Xomenka: hmmm... not familiar with what a cafe timer is02:53
Brett18i forgot02:53
Brett18in ubuntu it freezes during "base package"02:54
netsniperKyral, you use the STARTERBAR?02:54
Brett18sorry. "core components"02:54
omenkain an internet cafe a timer is a software used to allocate tickets to clients who come to browse02:54
gm78omenka: yeah, not sure what a cafe timer is02:55
rogerBrett18, sorry bud I have no idea unless you can give more concrete details02:55
KyralCybermagellan: edit the conf file, but I forgot which one it is...02:55
Brett18bot :P02:56
rogerBrett18, try googling for it & see if nayone else has had the same problem02:56
omenkaok.....yu go to an internet cafe and yu buy tickets for example for 1 hr right?it,s the client software installed on the system(timer software) that logs yu out when ur time expires02:56
Brett18i did. even spidered ubuntuforums02:56
netsniperomenka, you should be able to circumvernt that easily02:56
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CybermagellanYeah I removed xfce and kde but they still show.... + enlightenment doesn't02:56
omenkahow netsniper?02:56
Y0Z-hi!, have you try kazaa with wine????02:57
KyralNetSniper: Yes02:57
^thehatsrule^kazaa is useless02:57
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KyralUse LimeWire02:57
netsniperomenka, id need to know your specific setup -- but shouldnt be hard02:57
netsniperKyral, when i first add the STARTERBAR, all it is a black dot!02:57
ubuntu_does anyone know how to use winscp?02:57
Y0Z-ok02:58
Y0Z-10x02:58
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KyralNetsniper: did you bychance install it from Apt?02:58
netsniperKyral, yes02:58
Kyralthats the problem02:58
Kyralthe one from Apt is bugged02:58
netsniperKyral, did you get the black dot problem?02:58
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robla_Can anyone help me with sound ... I have onboard soundmax  (on a Dell)02:58
netsniperKyral, ahh...should I go from source?02:58
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robla_I hear music cds02:58
Kyralremove the gdesklets-data package02:59
robla_but not mp3s02:59
Kyralthen download StarterBar from the GDesklets site02:59
GNULinuxerKyral> why do they include the data package?02:59
GNULinuxerKyral> it's useless02:59
Kyralno clue02:59
KyralI'm not a Repo Maintainer :P03:00
GNULinuxercrap to be precise03:00
KyralI'm just a Friendly Linux Guru (TM)03:00
netsniperhehe03:00
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crazyhorseshalala ;)03:00
GNULinuxerKyral> if you were, i'd have kicked you03:00
KyralI would have too03:00
GNULinuxerKyral> I am a very crazy GNU/Linux God!03:00
crazyhorseurks 03:00AM again :/03:00
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KyralGNULinuxer: Only Linus Torvalds is that03:01
GNULinuxerKyral> he's a linux god ... and he's friendly03:01
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KyralAnyway. Netsniper: Download the Starterbar and install it from the GDesklet's site03:02
Kyraluse the GDesklets Shell03:02
netsniperKyral, i will 0 thanks03:02
Kyralnp, StarterBar rocks :D03:02
netsniperKyral, you mean the GUI or CLI?03:02
Kyraland check out the SideCandy Series03:03
Kyralthe GUI03:03
netsniperahh ok03:03
transgressgdesklets shell?03:03
crazyhorselol http://lachschon.gamigo.de/screens/200506/Wolffuchs-1119471831.jpg03:03
Kyralits what comes up when you click on gDesklets from the GNOME Menu03:03
transgressoh03:03
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xabbu Jikes, where can I find a list of depenencies for Enlighenment?03:04
robla_any tips on my sound problem... I think I loaded everything03:04
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Kyralxabbu: I believe there is a topic on the Forums on how to compile it from CVS03:05
karllllxabbu: http://enlightenment.org/Enlightenment/Get_Enlightenment.html03:05
karlllltry there03:05
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KyralWe should add "Linux Guru" to the Forum Tags for those who help out like crazy in here :P03:05
Razor-Xyou mean like me? ;)03:06
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transgressheh i never go to the forums03:06
transgressnot my style03:06
Razor-Xsame here03:06
KyralI do03:06
Kyral200+ posts :P03:06
hondjeMore useful to help there, then it's googlable03:06
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Razor-Xbut the few times I post, people'll know i'm not a hapless n00b03:07
transgressi haven't gone to forums since i used to go to these teen forums and mess with the xtians03:07
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t0lkmanis there wine for ubuntu 64bit?03:08
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SpecialBuddydoes everyone here use gnome?03:10
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KyralI do03:10
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matt__is there a release of xchat-gnome for ubuntu?03:10
transgressxchat-gnome?03:10
zenlunaticanyone know y my sound is muffled?03:10
transgresswhat makes that different than xchat?03:10
transgressnope and i don't know why your w and h keys don't work either03:11
Kyralit prolly integrates into GNOME better03:11
xabbuAnyone got "Unable to build a debian package of imlib2" during Enlightenment install03:11
xabbu?03:11
ccctransgress: http://xchat-gnome.navi.cx/03:11
zenlunatictransgress: i think its a differenbt forkedf project03:11
SpecialBuddycan you use kde with ubuntu03:11
zenlunaticSpecialBuddy: yes03:11
squinnSpecialBuddy, http://kubuntu.org03:11
squinnor install it within ubuntu03:11
matt__ya more gnome like, and i think its better03:12
matt__less crap03:12
SpecialBuddyhow do you install it with ubuntu03:12
transgresszenlunatic: i see03:12
transgressccc: thanks03:12
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karllllspecialbuddy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallingKDE03:12
lilliputhello guys is there any packages for azureus or my sources.list is incomplete ?03:12
SpecialBuddythanks karllll03:13
zenlunaticanyone know y my sound is muffled?03:13
Kyralthere are Azureus packages IIRC03:13
rogerlilliput, azureus is in the ubuntu backports i think03:13
SpecialBuddyand how do you make your name highlighted03:13
SpecialBuddydo you just click the persons name and then type?03:13
rogerlilliput, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/03:13
transgressany latin freaks in here?  as in the dead language not as in the from central america03:13
lilliputroger, thx03:13
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transgresswhat does "abyssus est alius populus" mean?  anyone03:13
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SpecialBuddyI can't even figure out how to play mp3's03:16
rogertransgress, according to some random forum on google it means "hell is other people"03:16
Burritohi03:16
transgressroger: thanks03:16
Burritocan somebody help me out?03:16
Burritoplease?03:16
rogerBurrito, what's up?03:16
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rogerSpecialBuddy, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats to see how to play mp3s03:17
ThE__OnEhow can i stop esd from openeing everytime i log in, my sound wont play otherwise03:17
squinnI screwed up. In an attempt to be stupid and maybe make things more accessible, I sudo chmodded my whole /dev and contents 77703:17
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squinnHow can I fix?03:17
netsniperKyral, you got a link to the starterbar that you have working correctly?  the right version that will work with my gdesklet from apt?03:17
KyralI can find it03:17
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naliothhowdy y'all03:17
Burritoroger>03:17
fidgethello ... I managed to screw up my fstab file ... what exactly should this file contain?03:17
Burritoi need to set up my tv card03:17
SpecialBuddythanks03:18
rogerSpecialBuddy, basically just apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad03:18
Burritocan you help me out?03:18
naliothfidget: did you google 'sample fstab'?03:18
SpecialBuddyok03:18
fidgetI did not03:18
gm78ThE__OnE: hey, just letting you know, i used the default of 50 and it worked03:18
fidgetis it the same for all computers?03:18
naliothfidget: or "sample fstab ubuntu"03:18
Burritoroger?03:18
SpecialBuddydoes that have avi too03:18
ThE__OnEok03:18
rogerBurrito, I don't have a TV card sorry... wouldn't know where to start03:18
rifficwhy isn't gstreamer-plugins-musepack included in ubuntu?03:18
naliothfidget: no it is not03:18
fidgethow would I go about creating one for my own computer then .....03:18
naliothriffic: probably licensing issues03:18
Burritook03:18
fidgetisn't it mount points?03:18
riffici tried to compile gst-plugins but oh boy confusing03:18
Burritothanks anyway03:18
rifficnalioth: musepack is free03:18
naliothfidget: yes it is03:18
rifficand its included in gst-plugins03:18
Burritodoes somebody know how to set up a tv card?03:19
naliothriffic: free as in beer or free as in freedom?03:19
rifficfree as in freedom03:19
fidgetah ok ... I'll google it ....03:19
fidgetthanks03:19
Bludgen.03:19
KyralNetSniper: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/categories.php?func=gd_show_app&gd_app_id=21003:19
naliothfidget: perhaps you could find someone in here with a similar computer setup and ask them to send you theirs03:19
Burritohey!03:19
naliothriffic: then i don't know03:19
Burritohow can help me!???03:19
Burritoplz!03:19
fidgetwhat all is in it?03:19
fidgetjust harddrive ... cd drives?03:19
Burritoi need help!03:19
Burritoplz!03:20
netsniperKyral, thanks dude -- iwas there but not sure if it would work03:20
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Burritoplz!03:20
rogerfidget, have a look at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=8  :)03:20
naliothfidget: there are a few lines i dont know what are, and yes, mount points for floppys, cdroms, HD partitions03:20
rogerfidget, but ubuntu should have created it automatically for you03:20
SpecialBuddyis KDE or GNOME better?03:20
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Burritoplz!03:20
DemitarSpecialBuddy, YES!03:20
davidosahello all...03:20
Burritoi need help!03:20
SpecialBuddyor what do you think is better?03:20
hondjeNo03:20
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hondjeSpecialBuddy: I prefer quesadillas03:20
Burritocommon03:21
fidgetaye well ... actually .. I mounted a iso file to it =/ so my fstab file was a little over 2 gigs ... so I just erased it and put in a blank file..03:21
fidgetit did let me boot up03:21
SpecialBuddyok03:21
Burritocame on guys!03:21
fidgetbut I don't think it wrote to it03:21
naliothBurrito: quit whining. Ask your question and wait. If anyone knows the answer they will answer you.03:21
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naliothfidget: open a terminal and type "cat /etc/fstab"03:21
Burritook03:21
rogerfidget, lol :)03:21
JDigitalfoop03:21
davidosaanyone have any experience booting from a LIVE CD of ubuntu on a PowerBook?03:21
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DemitarBurrito, and while waiting you can always ask google.03:21
JDigitalHow do I use File Roller to open rar?03:21
unomeBurrito: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html03:22
unomeBurrito: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/examples/fstab03:22
naliothJDigital: install "unrar-nonfree" or "unrar"03:22
naliothunome: did you mean fidget?03:22
gm78JDigital : you should just be able to double click on the icon in nautilus and it should openm03:22
Burritoi just need to know if somebody can help me to set up my tv card03:22
Burritothats all03:22
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naliothBurrito: have you asked uncle google? (he will always answer)03:23
Burritoyes03:23
fidgetsorry for being so .. bleh new .... I hate being the new guy when it comes to this kinda stuff..03:23
rogerBurrito, try googling / searhcing on the forums, or look at mailing lists for things like mythtv03:23
fidgetthen again .. i'm sure no one ever mounted a iso to there fstab file =/03:23
naliothfidget: we are all new at something03:23
Burritobut im just a newbie03:23
Burritoand i dont speak english03:23
Burritoso its very hard for me03:23
Burritoi need somebody to help me03:23
JDigitalCould not open "himm.rar"03:24
JDigitalArchive type not supported.03:24
Burritoplz03:24
naliothburrito i take cash only03:24
Burritoi have been here all day03:24
JDigitalI have unrar-nonfree installed03:24
fidgetmkay what did this cat /etc/fstab do?03:24
Burritoreally?03:24
naliothfidget: it should have printed a lot of stuff into your terminal03:24
fidgetthanks unome03:24
Burritonalioth: really?03:24
fidgetah .. it didn't03:24
fidgetblank ... new line03:24
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naliothfidget: then you need a new fstab03:24
naliothguys, will ubuntu recreate a missing fstab on bootup? i don't know personally03:25
fidgetI agree ... ... if I installed ubuntu on this computer .. on a different harddrive03:25
rogerfidget, type "whatis cat"03:25
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fidgetthen copied the new file to a ftp ..03:25
fidgetand then downloaded that .. onto this03:25
fidgetwould it work?03:25
Burritowell, good 4 u anyway03:25
rogerfidget, type "mount" and it should have most of your current information which you can copy out into a new fstab03:26
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naliothfidget: do you have a livecd?03:26
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DoesntMathey yall03:26
fidgetI don't ...03:26
fidgeta ubuntu live cd?03:27
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DoesntMati neeed to get my mouse to work03:27
fidgetI have ... whoppix and knoppix ..03:27
DoesntMatanyone know how03:27
DemitarBurrito, have you looked at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41123 (the first hit on google for "ubuntu tv-card") which links to http://xawdecode.sourceforge.net/aideUS/htmlpage/TVCardall.htm ?03:27
rogerif you reboot without  recreating your fstab you won't be able to boot back up again03:27
rifficoh hell yes i found musepack plugins03:27
rifficthird party, but they work03:27
rifficDoesntMat: what sort of mouse issues are you having?03:27
fidgetoh ... great ...03:27
DoesntMatcant move it03:27
Moshedoes ubuntu autoconfigure devices at startup or do you need to do things manually like with slackware?03:27
Burritono03:27
rifficwhat kind of mouse do you have03:27
rogerfidget, does typing "mount" come up with a load of stuff?03:28
DoesntMatstandard wheel ps2 mouse i think03:28
fidgetI can mount hda1 though in knoppix03:28
naliothfidget: see the links you were sent above (from unome) and recreate your fstab using the "mount" command as mentioned by roget03:28
Burritobut i dont understand english03:28
Burritothats the problem03:28
fidgetyes03:28
rifficwhat's in your mouse section in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?03:28
naliothBurrito: try another line, that is gettin old03:28
fidgethumm ... I think I will have to do that03:28
DoesntMati dont know...03:28
Burritono really03:28
DemitarBurrito, and I don't have a tv-card. Go figure.03:28
DoesntMatnever used linux before..cant operate without mouse = (03:28
transgressnalioth: that was awesome.  that was the greatest response ever03:28
fidgetmuch thanks roger nalioth and unome03:28
unomegood luck03:29
naliothtransgress: what?03:29
gm78Burrito: ur having problems with a tv card u said?03:29
fidgetwait..03:29
fidgetif I reboot ..and I somehow messed up03:29
fidgetI wont be able to get back in...03:29
Burritoyes03:29
fidgetshould I download a ubuntu live cd first?03:29
Burritoi cant set it up03:29
SpecialBuddywhats a good avi player03:29
rogerfidget, yeah, then if it is broken you can boot off the livecd and fix it03:29
DoesntMatwell ...sorry to bother you riffic..but do you have any suggestions03:30
transgressnalioth: your reply to Burrito made me laugh03:30
fidgetsounds like a plan ... thanks again03:30
naliothtransgress: well, his english is better then mine (but i'm a Texan)03:30
rogerfidget, no worries, the main ones you need to boot are (if you did a default partitioning) proc, your root, and swap space03:30
DoesntMatdamn it03:31
DoesntMatanyone know how to get ur mouse working ??03:31
rogerfidget, proc will always be: proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       003:31
DoesntMati did get a xong.conf error in boot up...03:31
rogerfidget, and your root and swap you can get from the output of 'mount'03:31
DoesntMatxorg **] 03:31
msg-me-4-a-gameyes03:31
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JDigitalYup. I can't open any WinRAR files with File Roller, at all.03:32
DoesntMatF ***03:32
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naliothJDigital: open a terminal in the directory of your rars and run "unrar filename.rar"03:32
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transgressJDigital: you probably need unrar-nonfree03:32
DoesntMatis there a way to get ur mouse to work...mine doesnt not work...i get a xorg.conf error when i boot up03:32
DoesntMatbut i still see the dektop03:33
rogerfidget, actually no... to check your swap partition type "cat /proc/swaps" and it will show your swap device there03:33
DoesntMatso much for help here03:33
djsDoesntMat, Try this -    <ctrl><alt>F2 ; (log in); sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:33
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DoesntMatok03:34
Epithetthello03:34
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DoesntMatthis is at boot up rihgt ??03:34
naliothDoesntMat: collectively in here we know all there is to know about ubuntu. the trick for the curious is to time their question so the right person can answer it03:34
djsDoesntMat, there will be lots of questions asked,  the defaults are usually pretty good03:34
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djsDoesntMat, no you can do it now03:35
naliothDoesntMat: follow the inst, no boot up necessary03:35
ravenoushas anyone run into problems running teamspeak under ubuntu?03:35
DoesntMatim on a diffrnt machine03:35
Epithetti am totally new to linux and frankly i really don't know how to do anything.  To get internet working on my Ubuntu PC, I have a Linksys Wireless USB adapter.  How to get that installed, I have no idea03:35
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chalcedony* JOEGurl are you here?03:36
rob_i have a text-based login, which file do i edit to get 'startx' to run upon login?03:36
rogerplug and pray03:36
Epithettcan anyone help me?  i have the steps I need to take, I got them from topics around teh forum, but I have no idea how to do those things and this is where anyone of you come in03:36
ravenousanyone can help me with teamspeak under ubuntu?03:36
naliothEpithett: if you have the steps, ask for more info about each step03:37
Epithettokay03:37
Quest-MasterEpithett: Search for ndiswrapper03:37
chalcedonyyou guys are good :)03:37
Epithett1) Add 'wireless_mode managed" before setting essid in the interfaces file.03:37
naliothEpithett: because i know nothing about installing wireless cards, but i do know about performing actions on teh system03:37
Epithetthow do i do taht03:37
Quest-MasterEpithett: Learn how to use it, and you will be able to use the Linksys WUSB45 adapter with Ubuntu03:37
JDigitaltransgress: I have unrar-nonfree installed03:37
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rob_anyone?03:37
transgressJDigital: oh yeah that's right... yeah file-roller hates them... whatever kde uses though doesn't heh03:38
JDigital:\03:38
JDigitalSo what you're saying is that Ubuntu can't open Rar files with a graphical interface, without changing the interface entirely?03:38
naliothJDigital: use ark03:39
SysFailark wont do it?03:39
naliothJDigital: as in 'right click" "open with"03:39
fidgetbleh I don't understand dump and pass..03:39
SysFaili use the command line rar03:39
rogerrob_, what's the output from running "cat /etc/inittab | grep initdefault"03:39
JDigitalI know I can use the command line rar, but there are times when I would like to use the graphical tool.03:40
naliothJDigital: does ark work?03:40
rob_roger, ah ok thx, what is the format of 'initdefault' ?03:40
JDigitalI don't even have ark installed.03:40
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naliothJDigital: perhaps you should, if you desire a graphical app03:41
SysFailark is nice03:41
rogerrob_, basically the number there is the default runlevel that you will boot up to - in ubuntu it should be 2 to start up X03:41
fidgetalright ... i'm going to try this beast out03:41
fidgetwish me luck03:41
rogerfidget, good luck :)03:41
rob_roger, runlevel 2 will start X? rofl03:41
fidgethah if you never hear from me again .. then it didn't work03:42
naliothfidget: knoppix will get you back here03:42
rogerrob_, if you haven't changed your init scripts from default, yeah...?03:42
DoesntMatwhen using  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg what xserver driveer do i select ?03:42
naliothDoesntMat: the default is a good choice (or vesa)03:42
DoesntMatok =)03:42
SpecialBuddywhat should I do if something freezes up03:42
naliothSpecialBuddy: blowtorch?03:42
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SpecialBuddyno03:43
lee_Seveas> are you around?03:43
SpecialBuddya program03:43
bddebianOK folks, I'm installing Warty on my StinkPad and when I get to the configure screen, my keyboard is hosed.  Can't select a timezone, can't switch to another terminal, nada..  Any ideas?03:43
SpecialBuddyhaha03:43
HrdwrBoBbddebian: install hoary03:43
HrdwrBoBit's been out for.. quite some time now03:43
lee_nalioth> you think you can help me with my wi-fi card?03:43
bddebianHrdwrBoB: This is the only CD I have handy, from FOSDEM03:43
DoesntMatdamn...i dont know this one either,,,please enter ur video cards pci bus driver03:43
naliothSpecialBuddy: one program freezing is not a problem, click on the top right [x]  and a li'l box will open saying "this is not responding, do you want to kill it?)03:43
rob_roger, nm.. i just appended 'startx' to .bash_profile and it works great.03:43
DoesntMatit says PCI1.0.003:44
HrdwrBoBDoesntMat: yes03:44
HrdwrBoBjust press enter03:44
rogerrob_, good stuff03:44
naliothlee_: probably not. i run apple hardware and have 0 experience with wifi for intel03:44
HrdwrBoBif you don't know, assume the default03:44
DoesntMatok03:44
DoesntMatok03:44
naliothroger: is bash_profile only read once on login?03:44
lee_nalioth> ok thanks, i wonder who in here can help me03:44
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naliothroger: or each time a term is opened?03:45
SpecialBuddytop right x?03:45
naliothlee_: ask your question. if no answer wait 5-10 minutes and ask again03:45
SpecialBuddyof the program?03:45
naliothSpecialBuddy: of your programs window03:45
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SpecialBuddyit won't do anything03:45
lee_nalioth>  ok ill give it a shot, GNULinuxer tried to help but me nor him could figure it out03:45
SpecialBuddydoesn't respond03:45
tiglionabbitSpecialBuddy: you trying to kill a program?03:46
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SpecialBuddyyeah03:46
tiglionabbitthere is a widget for the panel in gnome that does that.  Right-click a gnome panel and add it03:46
SpecialBuddybut it won't respond03:46
rogernalioth, one or t'other, not sure tbh - he'll find out soon enough ;)03:46
lee_ok guys, question here about my wi-fi card....  im trying to get the dang thing to work but i keep getting an error message03:46
naliothSpecialBuddy: what exactly won't respond?03:46
lee_the error message is FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted03:47
lee_anyone think they can help?03:47
SpecialBuddyx multimedia system03:47
tiglionabbitit's called "Force Quit"03:47
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SpecialBuddydo I have to download that03:47
ironmcI have a Nvidia Sound Storm onboard chip that works with Music Player (which I hate) and Totem but will not work with XMMS (which I love) anybody know of a fix for this??03:47
naliothlee_: are you doing the operation using 'sudo'?03:47
lee_yeah i was even in the root dir03:47
basetanque mierda03:47
basetanja03:47
lee_i mean root term03:47
tiglionabbitSpecialBuddy: right-click on either gnome panel, hit "Add to Panel" and select the "Force Quit" item.  You can then click on that icon, and then on the window of the program that is not responding03:47
naliothironmc: don't use xmms03:47
Razor-Xyou know how everyone says eventually, you can do anything in emacs?03:48
naliothlee_: i personally use 'sudo' and don't bother with the 'root terminal'03:48
ironmcthanks - gotta be something better than Music Player though??03:48
naliothRazor-X: did you build a house with it?03:48
Razor-XI know one thing emacs will never do03:48
basetani am chileeeee03:48
tiglionabbitSpecialBuddy: Or, you could use Applications->System Tools->System Monitor to kill it03:48
naliothironmc: there are plenty of audio things, use synaptic to search03:48
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SpecialBuddythanks man03:49
rogerironmc, if you don't mind about other apps not being able to play sounds, try "pkill esd" which might fix it03:49
SpecialBuddygot it03:49
ironmcthanks nalioth03:49
lee_nalioth> the guide i used told me to use root03:49
lee_nalioth> it said the sudo gave conflicts03:49
ironmcthanks roger I'll try that03:49
naliothlee_: i'm a mac hardware user, so i have no clue what y'all go thru to install wifi cards03:49
zerokillspkill esd is the answer to most of my sound problems03:49
Razor-Xpsshhhh, why even use vi anyways, get vi running in emacs ;)03:49
tiglionabbitthings you can do in emacs: bootstrap it and run it as an OS/window manager, read email, browse the web, play games, edit text, load in extra modules03:49
lee_haha03:49
lee_nalioth> me either LOL03:49
rogerironmc, try muine if you are looking for a different app ;)03:49
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lee_nalioth> this is what i was following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto03:50
SpecialBuddyI still haven't found something to play avi's03:50
SysFailkaffeine03:50
Razor-XSpecialBuddy: VLC03:50
tiglionabbitSpecialBuddy: tried VLC?03:50
rogerSpecialBuddy, totem should work fine, just install all the gstreamer codecs03:50
SysFailis vlc in synaptic?03:50
tiglionabbitvlc is a wonderful program, download it03:50
tiglionabbityes it is03:50
ironmcroger that works  THANKS03:50
SpecialBuddyok03:50
SpecialBuddyI will do that03:51
SpecialBuddythanks03:51
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zerokillsSpecialBuddy, VLC is the bomb03:51
tiglionabbitroger is right too, with the proper codecs any of your players should be able to play avi format03:51
rogerironmc, np, just restart esd if you want to use music player again or anything :)03:51
HeathenI need some help please... I just installed Ubuntu and my passwords are not working???03:51
DoesntMatok..im done with the reconfiguring of my mouse and things..now it lists my user name and looks like its wating for me to do something...can i reboot now ?03:51
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nalioth!Root03:51
ubotuI guess root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo03:51
tiglionabbitHeathen: ^03:51
naliothDoesntMat: you dont need to reboot03:51
DoesntMatdwhat do i do03:52
naliothDoesntMat: finish the sequence you started and press <ctrl><alt><f7> to get back to a gui03:52
SpecialBuddyare there any programs to partition a harddrive without losing data like partition magic03:52
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SpecialBuddy?03:52
DoesntMatok =)03:52
naliothSpecialBuddy: qtparted comes closest03:52
Razor-XSpecialBuddy: QTParted03:52
Heathenthx... reading :D03:52
rogerSpecialBuddy, or gparted03:53
DoesntMatlol...my mouse still dont work03:53
DoesntMatgod dman it03:53
naliothSpecialBuddy: qtparted and gparted are the same program, different frontends03:53
tiglionabbitDoesntMat: you can use control-alt and the F keys to access your virtual sessions on the comp.  By default the first 6 are text, the 7th is graphical, and the rest have not been started yet03:53
naliothDoesntMat: try a new mouse03:53
SpecialBuddyok03:53
SpecialBuddythanks03:53
DoesntMathmm..03:53
DoesntMatonly got one =(03:53
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DoesntMatson of bitch03:53
DoesntMatit has to be user error03:54
tiglionabbitwhat type of mouse is it?03:54
DoesntMat=(03:54
rogerDoesntMat, what's the error?03:54
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djsnalioth, He'd have to restart X wouldn't he03:54
DoesntMatits jsut as generic as it gets..black ps203:54
djs?03:54
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SpecialBuddyI'm probably going to be screwed if I try to install windows after ubuntu right?03:54
DoesntMatno name03:54
tiglionabbitSpecialBuddy: no03:54
tiglionabbitthere's ways to get it back...03:54
n8rtwHello and help on install03:54
HeathenMy password is not working... I keep getting an error saying :Child Terminated with 1 status"03:54
tiglionabbitI mean to fix grub.  Where's the howto on that?03:54
rogerDoesntMat, you'll need to restart X like djs said if you updated the config03:55
naliothdjs: was gettin to that03:55
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rogerDoesntMat, ctrl alt f7, then ctrl alt backspace03:55
DoesntMati should buy a new mouse any ways...do you recomend one that will workk03:55
tiglionabbitHeathen: that means there was an error, in the most general sense possible.  What exactly are you doing?03:55
DoesntMatill try that03:55
linlintiglionabbit www.ubuntuguide.org maybe has what your looking for03:55
naliothDoesntMat: have you restarted X?03:55
DoesntMati dont know03:55
DoesntMatlo03:55
DoesntMatl03:55
xero_how do i use the export PATH thing?? i wanan set it to that when i call eclipise from the command line it starts Eclipse (which is in /usr/local/eclipse/)03:55
DoesntMathow do you do that03:55
tiglionabbitDoesntMat: to restart x, switch to it and hit control-alt-backspace03:55
djsDoesntMat, roger's instructions will restart X03:55
SpecialBuddytiglionabbit: it's not going to mess it up if I try to do a dual partition03:55
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DoesntMatk03:56
DoesntMatbrb03:56
HeathenAnything :)  I just installed this and it says I have 25 updates to install... however it asks for my password.. which I enter then it gives me the error?03:56
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rogerxero_, "export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/eclipse/"03:56
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tiglionabbitSpecialBuddy: nope, I've got dual boot.  It does help to install windows first though, because windows tends to complain when there are other partitions on its install.  It may force you to delete them03:56
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ironmcthanks roger --- I was off picking out music...03:56
steven__why at boot time i get this message: Couldnt use the hardward clock as reference03:56
izzoI need help setting up a Bluetooth USB dongle on Ubuntu, can't seem to get the device to be used by any software, dmesg returns: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4, programs return: Can't get device info: No such device03:57
naliothSpecialBuddy: you can have as many partitions as you like03:57
kiwiwikkihai all03:57
Sysacehey guys... just finally finished downloading an Ubuntu DVD, breezy.. thought it was an installation dvd.  Now here I am apparently in a livecd environment, so I'm wondering if there is a way to install from this disk?  any help appreciated03:57
tiglionabbitsteven__: could mean the tiny battery in your computer is dead.  Does it get the time on your clock completely wrong?03:57
SpecialBuddysee I kept installing windows first but then when I installed ubuntu it would screw up03:57
zerokillshai = yes in japanese03:57
kiwiwikkii need some help but im a newbie03:57
tiglionabbitSpecialBuddy: know much about partitioning?03:57
Heathenso are we all kiwi :D03:57
SpecialBuddyso I installed it without the grub installing to windows and it would still screw up03:57
naliothSysace: at the prompt of your dvd, look for "for help hit <whatever key>"03:57
zerokillswhat do you need help with?03:57
SpecialBuddypartioning isn't the problem03:58
kiwiwikkithks03:58
DoesntMati hit ctrl alt backsapce..then it asked me for my login..i logged in..now im at a blank black screen with a text line at the top wating for me03:58
HeathenAnyone on my password issues?03:58
SpecialBuddyit's getting the dual boot to work03:58
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djsDoesntMat, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart03:58
SysFailwow vlc uses alot more processor to play dvds than kaffeine does03:58
DoesntMatkk03:58
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crazyhorseSysace, i think you don't want to install breezy atm (see topic)03:58
coolkevwhat is the easiest program to set up an ftp on ubuntu03:58
coolkevnot console based03:58
Sysacenalioth:  I've done that, and from what I read, passing the install option should work, but I still end up in X for what appears to be livecd.03:58
coolkevi like g.u.i03:58
tiglionabbitSpecialBuddy: I'm using hoary stable.  It worked for me automatically--  I installed Ubuntu after windows, and grub added a line for booting windows xp03:58
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kiwiwikkimy prob is : hot to get name n password in to my cups system03:59
SpecialBuddywell I will ihave to try it but I'm not certain if it will work03:59
kiwiwikkimy prob is : how to get name n password in to my cups system03:59
SpecialBuddythanks for all the help though03:59
naliothSysace: 1: i run a mac ibook, 2: i won't go near breezy until it's been out a few weeks so im not gonna be much help03:59
Sysacecrazyhorse:  I realize its still early stages.. but downloading 5.04 would take me a long time again.. is it possible to install from this breezy disk that I now have?03:59
SpecialBuddyI'm a noob with linux:)03:59
DoesntMatnvm..it dont let me type03:59
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tiglionabbitSysace: I believe there is a guide on the wiki about that.  Search it04:00
kiwiwikkianybody know about CUPS unix print04:00
DoesntMatill just have to reboot manually04:00
Sysaceis there a dvd disk for 5.04?04:00
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naliothSysace: yes04:00
naliothSysace: bittorrent only04:00
tiglionabbitSysace: there is a live/install dvd, available via torrent04:00
tiglionabbitI've got one burned04:00
tiglionabbitbwahaha04:00
steven__tiglionabbit, nop the clock is right and the battery is full04:00
kiwiwikkianybody know about CUPS unix print...plzz04:00
djsDoesntMat, try    <ctrl><alt>F2   first04:00
DoesntMatkk04:00
Sysacek, thanks guys.. will see if I can find it  :)04:00
crazyhorseSysace, i never tried it, sorry. well, the problem with breezy isn't the stage, they are changing to gcc4 and it has a new (incompliant) c++ ABI, so most programs written in c++ won't work04:00
siorfinanyone know anything about ipw2100?04:01
naliothkiwiwikki: if anyone knows how to help you, they will, otherwise, please wait a few minutes tween the same question04:01
tiglionabbitsteven__: I don't mean a laptop battery, I mean the CMOS battery.  But if the clock is correct, does it set it using the internet, or is the error just harmless?04:01
Sysacecrazyhorse:  thanks.. I was just hoping to use it now that I had it downloaded, but obviously I'd be better off trying to get a copy of 5.0404:01
DoesntMatit goes to the last page of when i was reconfiguring my xorg.conf and it was waiting for me ..04:01
kiwiwikkiok thanks04:01
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DoesntMatsays my user name@root___04:01
steven__i think is error harmless but i was wondering if i can fix it04:02
DoesntMattext line bliking04:02
crazyhorseSysace, yeah, i think so ;) you could try if there are special boot options for an installation, but it's better to fetch hoary ;)04:02
tiglionabbitsteven__: well you could blacklist your clock, but that would be ridiculous.  I'm not sure what is causing it..04:02
djsDoesntMat, sorry - i'm a little confused - were you able to type    sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart   ?04:03
Sysacecrazyhorse:  been reading the help available on boot, but any installation options I find still seem to leave me in a livecd env.04:03
steven__well thats cool04:03
crazyhorseSysace, well, then this is really just a live cd04:03
tiglionabbitSysace: search http://wiki.ubuntu.com for the guide04:03
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basetankde for ubuntu???04:04
DoesntMatya04:04
tiglionabbitbasetan: kubuntu04:04
KyralKubuntu04:04
siorfinanyone know anything about ipw210004:04
DoesntMatit brought me to a login page..but no mouse working04:04
Epithett"to get there type: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces" where do i type that?04:04
DoesntMat= (04:04
djsDoesntMat, =(04:05
rpj911Hello,   I would like to edit my /etc/apt/source.list , is there a way to switch into su without loging in and out as root?04:05
basetanalguno habla04:05
coolkevwhat is the easiest program to set up an ftp on ubuntu, i like something with g.u.i and easy to use interface like those seen on windows platform04:05
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siorfinsudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list04:05
linlinrpj911 sudo su root04:05
tiglionabbitEpithett: type commands at the terminal, or a virtual terminal.  Run xterm or console or terminal, or switch to a virtual terminal using control-alt and an F key04:05
Mobiusor you can run a root terminal, right?04:05
DoesntMatanymore ideas  ?..my mouse works under knoppix04:05
naliothrpj911: we use sudo in ubuntu04:06
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ravenousdoes anyone know what the absolute path to gaim is in ubuntu?04:06
tiglionabbitDoesntMat: you could use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the proper options for it04:06
naliothravenous: open a terminal and type "which gaim"04:06
djsDoesntMat, You can try reconfiguring xorg again, trying different settings (port?) for the mouse.  It is unusual that it hasn't worked at the install though.04:06
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DoesntMatya...but i am not sure what those options are =(04:07
HeathenThis is sooo frustrating04:07
rpj911tnx for the pointers...04:07
DoesntMati just left as default and chnaged what i knew i needed too04:07
tiglionabbitHeathen: what is?04:07
ravenousthanx, tahts what I thought it was.04:07
DoesntMatill try alterning some of the mouse options04:07
HeathenI JUST installed Ubuntu and my passwords are not working... keep getting errors on anything I do04:07
ravenousI just did a fresh reinstall of ubuntu, and am trying to install the new xfire plugin for gaim... but with no luck04:07
djsDoesntMat, yes that's what i meant - but probably didn't say too well :)04:08
gm78Heathen: which passwords?04:08
DoesntMatok =)04:08
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DoesntMati just need some patience04:08
HeathenANY!!  I try to go to user settings and it asks for my password... I enter it and I get an error04:08
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SysFailheathen...they are case sensitive04:08
SysFailgot caps lock off etc?04:08
HeathenI know04:08
SysFailok04:08
KillerSmurfanyone here have any exper with wacom?04:09
Heathentrued that :D04:09
crishow to install portuguease package to Firefox?04:09
tiglionabbitKillerSmurf: I have a tablet pc working with pressure sensitivity04:09
SysFailbut you can login heathen?04:09
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SysFailget to gnome or whatever?04:09
HeathenYeah I can login to the desktop... but from there nothing04:09
gm78Heathen : but u can log in fine?04:09
SysFailweird04:09
KillerSmurftig... I have a serial pad i sort of have working any suggestions04:10
naliothvery weird04:10
SysFailshouldnt be able to login04:10
SysFailif the pass is hosed04:10
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crishow to install portuguease package to Firefox? obs.: I use warty04:10
tiglionabbitKillerSmurf: get `wacom-tools` and also the wacom kernel source, and follow the wacom-linux-project from chapter 404:10
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KillerSmurftig.. thanks04:11
Mobiusdoes anyone use photo-album like software?04:11
HeathenYup.. here is an error .... "Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic  --update-at-startup --noninteractive --hide main window   Child terminated with 1 status"04:11
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tiglionabbitKillerSmurf: You'll want to get `wacdump` to give proper output.  Then you know you're on the right track.  After that all you need to do is configure the gimp04:12
raoulcris: # apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-pt-pt04:12
tiglionabbitand your xserver for the input04:12
tiglionabbitxserver first04:12
HeathenAnyone?04:12
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DoesntMatwhat prt would /dev/psaux be ? ..would it be for ps2 mouses ?04:12
tiglionabbitHeathen: try running Applications->System Tools->Root Terminal, and typing synaptic into that04:13
tiglionabbitafter entering your password04:13
Heathenthe root password right?04:13
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SysFailthere is no root pass04:13
crisraul: $ apt-cache search mozilla-firefox-locale-pt-pt04:13
crisraul: $04:13
HeathenI get the same error!! :(04:14
crissearche04:14
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tiglionabbit!root04:14
ubotuI guess root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:14
tiglionabbithave you read this, Heathen?  ^04:14
crisThere isn't "mozilla-firefox-locale-pt-pt" package04:14
Heathenlooking now04:15
tiglionabbitcris: what are you searching for?  Try being more general, like saying 'firefox' instead04:15
minkymeowHey...for some reason I'm not able to change my resolution in X04:15
tiglionabbitminkymeow: me neither, sucks, doesn't it?  You can probably add modes to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file04:15
minkymeowthe only option it gives me is 1024x76804:16
cristiglionabbit-> I want install the portuguease package for Firefox. But I don't know how to do it04:16
raoulcris: you can download it from debian.org and install it with dpkg --install04:16
coolkevis it possible to install and run winrar with WINE04:16
minkymeowyeah I tried playing with the file but its seems like it has no effect04:16
^thehatsrule^coolkev: why would you04:16
coolkevi need it04:17
crisraul, do you know the full URL to debian.org?04:17
tiglionabbitcoolkev: DO NOT DO THAT.  There are much better ways.  Install the rar package04:17
coolkevyes but i need winrar04:17
coolkevsicne the ones on linux are no good04:17
steven__is there any channel for ubuntu amd6404:17
coolkevthey have CRC cheakers04:17
tiglionabbitcoolkev: then your gui archive managers like fileroller will be able to use rar format04:17
coolkevand i have tog et past them04:17
tiglionabbitcrc?04:17
coolkevye i have it already04:17
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naliothcoolkev: unrar or unrar-nonfree work on every rar i use them on04:18
tiglionabbitoh, get restricted rar 2.0 package04:18
coolkevyes i have04:18
raoulcris: http://www.debian.org04:18
coolkevwhere i get restricted rar04:18
tiglionabbitcoolkev: enable the restricted and universe and multiverse repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list by uncommenting them04:18
DoesntMatlol..i just did that thing reconfigure mouse thing for all  the mouse ports04:19
DoesntMatnone worked04:19
coolkevthey already04:19
coolkevare04:19
tiglionabbitDoesntMat: you will have to restart X for the settings to take effect04:19
DoesntMati did04:19
tiglionabbitoh04:19
DoesntMati typed in sudo/etc/init.d/gdm restart for ever yone04:19
steven__is there any channel for ubuntu amd6404:19
tiglionabbitwere you logged out of your session and all when you did that?04:20
DoesntMatyes04:20
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coolkevtiglionabbit i ave them uncommented now what i do04:20
DoesntMati might just need to buy a new  mouse tommorow =(..only like fifteen bucks04:20
DoesntMatill just make sure its a linux ready mouse04:21
tiglionabbitcoolkev: now apt-get update04:21
dabaR_coolkev sudo aptitude update04:21
DoesntMato ya..i need to learn how to compile my own kernel so that it supports apic mode on..is that hard ?04:22
siorfinanyone know how to get ipw2100 working for centrinos?04:22
coolkevfor restricted rar04:22
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coolkevit's all been done04:22
coolkevDekkard why using version on me>?04:22
dabaR_sudo aptitude search rar\04:22
DoesntMatubuntu only boots up if my apic mode is off in my bios,....but then it fucks my windws os up if i turn it off04:22
dabaR_no \04:22
Dekkardcoolkev:  because of youir accent04:23
idgehey does anyone know how to make a boot disk from sbm.bin using dd?04:23
coolkevhuh04:23
coolkevaccent?04:23
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coolkevi'm typing04:23
DoesntMatthanks for the help guys...better luck next time =(04:23
coolkevnot talking04:23
Dekkardyou type with an accent04:24
dabaR_did the search?04:24
idgein the ubuntu 5.04 install cd it tells me to do that04:24
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bartekpsiorfin: ipw2100.sf.net04:24
coolkevDekkard: please don't lie, just be honest that you checking to see if you can hack or exploit me04:24
dabaR_hehe, did the search, coolkev?04:24
Dekkardcoolkev:  this is a linux room04:24
Dekkarddont be silly04:25
coolkevDekkard: and if I do speak with an accent i asked a linux question04:25
coolkevye i did04:25
raoulidge: # dd if=smb.bin of=/dev/fd004:25
coolkevi don't see restricted rar04:25
dabaR_ok, did it come up with a package name for unrar-nonfree?04:25
coolkevye i see it04:25
dabaR_ok, sudo aptitude install it04:25
coolkevnon free means i have to pay for it?04:25
dabaR_yup04:25
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dabaR_to my bank account04:26
idgeraoul: awsome....will try this04:26
dabaR_cause I told you how...04:26
coolkevare you jokin or being serious04:26
tiglionabbitcoolkev: nonfree means there is no source code available04:26
dabaR_no its free like beer04:26
tiglionabbitit's still free to use though04:26
coolkevohh ok04:26
kiwiwikkianybody know about CUPS unix print...plzz04:26
dabaR_I dont pay for beer...04:26
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dabaR_I read about it once...04:26
dabaR_kiwiwikki ^04:26
rossbotskeebledee04:27
Dekkardokeee04:27
Dekkardgettin a bit deep..04:27
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kiwiwikkiye dabar04:27
kiwiwikkican u hel me04:27
kiwiwikkican u help me04:27
dabaR_I read about it once...if you state your issue, I will tell you if I can fix it.04:28
KyralAnyone know how to install Eclipse IDE?04:28
kiwiwikkiok thanks04:28
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dabaR_Kyral go to their site, and downlolad the binary.04:28
dabaR_then run it, thats it04:28
Kyraloh...04:28
Kyralwhy isn't it in Apt? :P04:28
dabaR_yeah, I had the same resaction...04:28
dabaR_figure it out for yourself...04:29
dabaR_maybe it even is in multiverse, dunno04:29
gm78Kyral : it is a java program, so since java isnt in ubuntus apt repos, they cant include it04:29
coolkevcan some 1 tell me what I'd type to extract a file with unrar and ave it disable crc or any error checker.. sicne the file is not 100% complete04:29
dabaR_man rar, I think, or man unrar04:29
gm78Kyral : altho Red Hat has made it compile with gcj...so maybe it will be included some day04:30
idgeraoul: didn't work...says not a directory. any other ideas?04:30
gegektinfo rar04:30
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bartekpcoolkev: kb options04:31
bartekpoption04:31
steven__is there some kind of program like gift for amd6404:31
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gm78steven__: what exactly does gift do?04:32
coolkevok i'm stuck in man unrar04:32
gm78coolkev : what are you trying to do?04:32
tiglionabbitcoolkev: hit q04:32
transgressif you are having problems with rar you could always use ark... it handles rars if you have unrar-nonfree04:32
coolkevlike how i go back to console04:32
steven__gm78, its a pear to pear program04:32
coolkevohh no04:32
ninwacoolkev, ctrl z ?04:32
rossbothihi peoples04:32
gegektheh, pear to pear04:32
coolkevq worked04:32
izzoHow do I reset my USB devices?04:32
gm78coolkev: hitting q works too04:32
izzoI know you can reset PCMCIA04:33
gm78steven__: the only ones i know of are limewire and edonkey (limewire is better IMO)04:33
tiglionabbitcoolkev: man opens your pager, which by default is "less".  `man less` to read about how to control it04:33
dabaR_gtk-gnutella is a ptp shraing.04:33
coolkevok the file in in my home folder called file.rar now this file has everything complete except for one file... but i want the unrar to ignore that it's incomplete and extract it regardless04:33
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naliothgm78: gtk-gnutella i prefer over limewire04:33
ninwaI use gtk-gnutella04:33
ninwaworks great04:34
dabaR_yup04:34
ninwaamazing download speeds04:34
dabaR_real program.04:34
naliothcoolkev: type "unrar" or "unrar --help" to find out how04:34
dabaR_like, has what it needs to have04:34
gm78ninwa / nalioth : i had problems with gtk-gnutella...altho i guess i could try it again, that was a long time ago04:34
gm78nalioth : does it do anything better than limewire?04:34
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ravenouscan anyone help me setup apt?04:34
naliothgm78: it DOESNT use java04:34
steven__gm78, why it doesnt find the limewire when i hit apt-cache search limewire04:34
gegektcoolkev, you need to install rar from marillat04:34
dabaR_that, and it also has a search more...04:34
dabaR_like, it searches as long as it is on, limewire stops after a while, and there is no search more button04:35
naliothravenous: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo04:35
ravenousI tried sudo apt-get build-dep gaim and got an error saying I need some source urls04:35
crimsun(unrar-nonfree is in multiverse)04:35
coolkevVA-Itation_Sound_-_High_Grade_Forever_Volume_28-(Promo_CD)-2005-MNC/01-va_-_itation_sound_high_grade_forever_volume_28-MNC.mp3 - CRC failed04:35
coolkevsee i get that when i type unrar e file.rar04:36
naliothravenous: ah, then you need to open /etc/apt/sources.list (using sudo) and remove the # from in front of line starting with "deb-src"04:36
gm78steven__: limewire isnt in ubuntus repos, it is also a java program, u need to grab java from www.java.com and limewire from www.limewire.com04:36
coolkevit goes all the way to 99% and then screws up04:36
raoulidge: you must run dd as root to use it on block device as /dev/fd004:36
dabaR_and no files, coolkev ?04:36
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coolkevi get the files that are 100%04:36
coolkevone this one file that is 99% i don't get04:36
dabaR_ah04:36
xxtremeravenous= try installing gaim with synaptic, sometimes apt doesn't find all the dep04:37
dabaR_ok, whatever, I dont kno.04:37
coolkevlol04:37
gm78steven__: if u need help installing it, query me04:37
coolkevgegekt coolkev, you need to install rar from marillat <--- will this work04:37
steven__gm78, ok thats cool04:37
dabaR_its the same one...04:37
Daveycoolkev: a CRC error means you have a b0rked archive04:37
ravenousgaim is already installed04:37
steven__why do i get this error duplicate sources.list entry04:38
Daveywhat are you trying to install then ravenous ?04:38
Daveysteven__: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove any duplicates :)04:38
tiglionabbitsteven__: perhaps it means you have duplicate entries in sources.list?04:38
ravenousI have a fresh install of ubuntu, with the default gaim. Someone told me I needed to do the apt-get build-dep gaim to get an xfire plugin working04:39
tiglionabbitwhat's the xfire plugin do?04:40
steven__should i uncomment deb security.ubuntu.com04:40
Daveytiglionabbit: for?04:40
Daveyoh :)04:40
ravenousallows you to use xfire through gaim04:40
ravenouswhats the edit command in terminal?04:41
ravenousto edit the list file04:41
dabaR_ok, one, two three,,,04:41
transgresssources.list?  well you could do vi, pico, edit, emacs04:41
Daveynano04:41
naliothravenous: stick with nano04:41
ravenouswhich is easier for a newb?04:41
transgresslearn vi04:41
Daveynano or pico04:41
naliothravenous: nano04:41
raoulravenous: vi /etc/apt/sources.list04:42
ravenousso "sudo nano sources.lst"04:42
dabaR_yes, if you are in /etc/apt04:42
ravenousso "sudo nano sources.list"04:42
ravenousi am04:42
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zerokillshey, whats the name of that free firewall?04:42
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gm78ravenous: use nano for cli and gedit for gui, both are very easy04:42
transgresszerokills: hahahahaha04:42
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dabaR_in Linux? zerokills ?04:42
steven__whats that of restricted packages int the sources.list file04:42
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ravenousgedit won;t let me un comment04:43
gm78zerokills : are you thinking of iptables?04:43
coolkevis gaim buggy when you turn logs on04:43
transgressravenous: did you run sudo gedit?04:43
coolkev?04:43
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WebMavenHow do I take a screenshot when the browser has a dropdown open?04:43
transgresscoolkev: no04:43
ravenousin terminal?04:43
gm78ravenous: u need to run it as sudo....otherwise u dont have the permissions necessary to edit the file04:43
odie5533Is there an IRC client for the console?04:43
zerokillsdabaR_, yea in linux04:43
transgressWebMaven: print screen button04:43
tiglionabbitsteven__: restricted means formats that aren't "free as in freedom", like windows codecs and java and such04:43
zerokillsgm78, no, not that04:43
dabaR_eveerything pretty much is free in linux04:43
steven__oh i c04:43
dabaR_firestarter, iptables...04:43
WebMaventransgress, doesn't work if the browser has the dropdown open.04:43
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coolkevok good cause me and my friends get drunk/high and have very interesting convos but i don't remember them so i wnana log them04:43
naliothodie5533: irssi04:43
steven__well thanks for all the help04:43
zerokillsahh yea, firestarter04:44
gm78zerokills : guarddog for kde and firestarter for gnome, firestarter is much easier to use, guarddog gives u more control04:44
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transgressWebMaven: SOL?04:44
zerokillsk thanks04:44
dabaR_thanks for the laugh04:44
raoulodie5533: irssi04:44
dabaR_I mean, nothing mean, just funny.04:44
WebMaventransgress, that's not helpful.04:44
transgressWebMaven: but perhaps it's true04:44
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YoNecisitoMeAyudhi04:45
zerokillsdabaR_, thanking me for the laugh?04:45
WebMavenperhaps, perhaps not. Do you *know* I'm SOL?04:45
YoNecisitoMeAyudcan someone help me?04:45
Mobiuswould anyone be willing to help me get my sound working on my asus notebook?04:45
dabaR_yeah, it was kinda funny how you said whats the name of that free program for linux...04:45
zerokillsahh right, hehe04:46
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YoNecisitoMeAyudI am new to ubuntu and I am wondering what is the default root password?04:46
WebMavenDoes anyone have a suggestion for taking screenshots if the browser has a dropdown open?04:46
DaveyYoNecisitoMeAyud: there is none04:46
gm78Mobius: just started a private chat with u04:47
DaveyYoNecisitoMeAyud: prefix a command with "sudo " to make it execute with root perms (give your own user password)04:47
ravenousgm78 can I send you the error I'm getting?04:47
DaveyYoNecisitoMeAyud: or, if you *need* the root account, "sudo passwd root" and set one04:47
YoNecisitoMeAyudDavey: what happens when I type su in a terminal04:47
dabaR_it ndont work04:47
DaveyYoNecisitoMeAyud: it is set you cannot login as root04:47
DaveyYoNecisitoMeAyud: till you set a password.04:47
naliothYoNecisitoMeAyud: watch ubotu04:47
nalioth!root04:48
uboturoot is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:48
raoulYoNecisitoMeAyud: sudo passwd root04:48
WebMavenYoNecisitoMeAyud, you can do sudo su04:48
djsYoNecisitoMeAyud, use sudo -i (then your own password)04:48
YoNecisitoMeAyudThanks04:48
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brendan_Whats another web browser?04:49
coolkevlsd04:49
lifelesslinks04:49
lifelesslynx04:49
lifelesstelnet04:49
nalioth brendan_ there are many04:49
lifelessmozilla04:49
lifelessamaya04:49
brendan_A graphical one04:49
naliothkazehakaze04:49
naliothdillo04:49
WebMavenStill wondering how to take a screnshot with a dropdown open in the browser... help?04:49
lifelessoff the top of my head04:49
naliothgaleon04:49
naliothepiphany04:49
amonkeywhat's a clock skew? my laptop errors about it when i compile things04:49
brendan_Whats the one that starts with n04:49
lifelessfirefox04:49
lifelessnetscape04:49
brendan_Other one04:49
lifelessnutscrape04:49
brendan_lol04:49
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djslol04:49
coolkevsudo apt-get install lsd04:49
brendan_nautiluse or something04:49
brendan_What is it?04:49
naliothbrendan_: nautilus is a file mangler04:50
WebMavenwhat's wrong with FireFox?04:50
brendan_Damn04:50
brendan_lol04:50
brendan_Firefox is going really slow04:50
brendan_for somereason04:50
naliothbrendan_: use galeon04:50
brendan_Im going to try a different browser04:50
brendan_Okay04:50
WebMavennumber of open winows and tabs?04:50
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naliothbrendan_: galeon uses the gecko engine, but is written in gtk (for gnome)04:50
WebMavennalioth, same is true of epiphany, correct?04:51
brendan_can someone send me their sources file?04:51
brendan_I cant use firefox at all for somereason04:51
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brendan_It takes 10 mins to load google.com04:51
naliothWebMaven: i don't know. i tried epiphany and wasnt impressed04:51
dabaR_there is a damn small linux browser, very minimalistic...04:51
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dabaR_but, you may be having connection issues04:51
WebMavenwasn't making a recommendation...04:51
DaveydabaR_: Dillo?04:52
rc51woodyevening room... during startup when my system states its starting network connections it pauses for a long time.. i have wireless.. but it also gives me a list of files that it ignores also.04:52
naliothdabaR_: yes, it's called dillo and it sucks harshly04:52
brendan_!faq04:52
uboturumour has it, faq is Frequently Asked Questions you can check it out from here ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions04:52
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WebMavenOk, still  advice on taking screenshots of browsers with a dropdown open.04:52
WebMavenOk, still *need* advice on taking screenshots of browsers with a dropdown open.04:53
dabaR_I agree, I think he may be having connection issues... ping google, see if it takes longer than 150 ms...04:53
dabaR_then if it dont] 04:53
dabaR_clear your cache04:53
dabaR_and cookies see if that helps04:53
orlandohey you're having DNS problems too>04:53
dabaR_maybe he has a full cache04:53
dabaR_I bet you have Comcast, orlando04:53
orlandono04:54
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orlandotime-warner04:54
dabaR_hehe, nice, I was wrong...04:54
WebMavenbrendan_, was the FAQ link for me?04:54
hondjeWebMaven: run 'sleep 5; import -window root screenshot.png' and while it waits open the drop box down04:54
dabaR_nice04:54
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odie5533_How do I change between channels in bitchx?04:55
tiglionabbitodie5533_: control-X04:55
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odie5533_ty04:55
tiglionabbitodie5533_: though I really would recommend trying irssi.  http://f0rked.com/core/irssi04:56
Xyc0wo hooo!! I got my wireless working with NDISWrapper04:56
naliothodie5533_: when you get tired of bitch-x, try irssi04:56
Xyc0its a womderful thing04:56
odie5533_Ah I think I'll try it right now04:56
naliothtiglionabbit: no more ESP (at least aim it somewhere else)04:56
dabaR_I think google is being slow now...04:56
WebMavenhondje, 'bash: import: command not found'04:56
tiglionabbitESP?04:57
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odie5533_does sudo apt-get install irssi work?04:57
naliothtiglionabbit: Extra Sensory Perception (quit reading my mind)04:57
naliothodie5533_: it is installed already04:57
tiglionabbitodie5533_: yes, though I believe it is installed by default04:57
hondjeWebMaven: oh, hrm, it's part of the imagemagick package04:57
Xyc0I think i have ESPN04:57
naliothtiglionabbit: SEE??04:57
naliothtiglionabbit: quit it! :)04:57
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zerokillsi know you guys were just talking about this, but i forgot already, whats another web browser besides firefox, for gnome04:58
hondjeepiphany, mozilla, galeon04:58
naliothzerokills: epiphany, galeon, kazekahaze, dillo04:58
dabaR_Internet Expplorer...04:58
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Xyc0ha ha ha ha04:58
hondjeopera04:58
aukepiphany04:58
aukoh.04:58
aukok04:58
robitailleelinks04:58
aukopera04:58
naliothhondje: fsck opera04:58
auklynx04:58
Xyc0Nautilis works too right?04:58
hondjenalioth: they're all the same to me04:58
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hondjecrap!04:58
auk?04:59
naliothXyc0: nautilus is a file mangler04:59
odie5533Irssi it is ;)04:59
auk?04:59
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aukmangler?04:59
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Xyc0nalioth: Cant you use it to view HTML as well?04:59
naliothauk: my funny joke (switching "manager" for "mangler"04:59
naliothXyc0: i have no idea04:59
naliothXyc0: i've never tried04:59
dabaR_no04:59
aukyes, but do you really thinkit mangles files?05:00
Xyc0nalioth: I remeber doing it in old RH05:00
aukno...05:00
naliothXyc0: i think it sucks a file mangler, so i never ever thought about pointing it at the web05:00
aukonly source code05:00
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Varanger2hi crimsun05:00
auk?05:00
naliothauk: all graphical file things mangle05:00
aukhmm05:00
hondjeno way05:00
Xyc0nalioth: do you use konquer?05:00
hondjethere are a lot of times it's faster05:00
tiglionabbitwtf, file mangler?  It's a file "manager"05:00
Epithettubuntu really needs a new way to get linksys usb adapters to work on their system without any heavy duty work05:00
aukthat is one way that the gui wins05:01
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aukin navigating directories.05:01
naliothXyc0: yes i use konqueror05:01
orlandohow do i check which services are running05:01
aukps05:01
auktop05:01
hondjepstree!05:01
hondje:)05:01
aukorlando" *05:01
aukorlando: *05:02
hondjeor if you're not that lazy, ps auxf05:02
lappy74__hello i have a question, i need to download the build-essential and kernel headers, is there a repositories for those packages somewhere? i kinda poked around and couldn't find anything of the like05:02
tiglionabbitorlando: applications->system tools->system monitor05:02
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naliothlappy74__: they should be there for you05:02
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orlandoi dont see nscd listed05:02
orlandodoes it not come with ubuntu?05:02
dabaR_its in main, build-essential is...05:02
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naliothZuiden: use synaptic to find them05:03
Zuidenwell i need to download them while in my windows boot05:03
Zuidenso synaptic isn't an option05:03
naliothZuiden: ah05:03
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naliothZuiden: packages.ubuntu.com05:03
Zuidenunless ubuntu supports wusb1105:03
Zuidenalright05:03
Zuidenand the command for installilng a synaptic package is?05:03
aukorlando: never heard of it.05:03
orlandoname server cache daemon05:03
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naliothZuiden: synaptic is a frontend for apt-get05:04
auktry apt-getting it05:04
Zuidenoh gotcha05:04
orlandoapt-get nscd?05:04
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naliothwhat is nscd?05:04
aukmaybe05:04
dabaR_you mean once you have the deb how to install it, Zuiden05:04
orlandoname server cache daemon05:04
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odie5533How do I enable color highlighting in VIM?05:04
Zuidenexatly05:04
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Zuideni know in fedora i could rpm05:04
aukblah05:04
Zuidenrpm [package] 05:05
tiglionabbitodie5533: vimtutor and read the very last section05:05
naliothZuiden: here it's "apt-get install <pkgname>"05:05
auksudo *05:05
Zuidenso CD to the directory and apt get install05:05
auktothe dir?05:05
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aukis the package on your hard dirve?05:05
tiglionabbitZuiden: if you're used to using the rpm command, apt will be a huge breath of fresh air.  It finds the dependencies for you!05:05
orlandosynaptic is just the gui for apt-get right?05:05
orlandosame thing? same packages?05:05
tiglionabbityes05:06
Zuidenhaha05:06
aukyep05:06
tiglionabbitthat's why it's called synAPTic05:06
orlandook thanks05:06
Zuidenwell i was using the fedora thing where all i had to was double click on the rpm and it did all that for me anyways05:06
aukZuiden: apt takes them off a server, not your hard dirve05:06
aukbut you can configure it to take them off your hard dirve...05:06
Zuidenhow does one go about that?05:07
aukhttp://puggy.symonds.net/~rajesh/localdeb.html05:07
aukbaaaaad colors and fonts on that page, though05:07
auk=(05:07
Zuideni will just highlight it05:07
Zuidenhaha05:07
aukhehe05:08
auktry it with lynx05:08
tiglionabbitZuiden: apt downloads packages05:08
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tiglionabbitif you want something like rpm, use dpkg05:08
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regeyaindeed.05:08
tiglionabbitApt gets things from the sources listed in the file /etc/apt/sources.list05:08
Zuidenwell i pretty new to linux so i can learn either way05:08
regeyaI make anti-RH zealots mad by telling them that dpkg is less powerful than apt-rpm.05:09
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tiglionabbitregeya: why not say yum?  And apt-get is good05:09
aukZuiden: what package do you want?05:09
Zuidenfedora core was nice but i couldn't get my wusb11 ver 2.6 to work on it05:09
Zuidenbuild-essential05:09
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regeyatiglionabbit, for this argument to work, you have to compare dpkg to apt-rpm. ;-)05:10
regeya"apt is soooo much more powerful than rpm" <- die05:10
tiglionabbitthat's just being silly05:10
naliothi used apt-rpm and RPMs still sucked05:10
Zuideni need to get build-essential and the headers for the kernel05:10
FlannelKingAnyone know anything about SELinux in ubuntu?05:10
tiglionabbitZuiden: say sudo apt-get install build-essential05:11
regeyanalioth: there are reasons for that, and it's mainly 'coz people suck :-)05:11
aukyee05:11
aukyes05:11
regeyameaning package maintainers05:11
naliothregeya: i'm sure05:11
Zuidenexcept i have no internet access on my OS05:11
Zuidenhaha05:11
freddy_im looking forward on ubuntu cause im tired of rpm :D wich side should i get?05:11
aukwhat?!!????05:11
tiglionabbitZuiden: OH NO!  Debian is crippled without internet05:11
Zuideni need to download build essential so i can install the drivers05:11
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Zuidenno way!05:11
Zuideni couldn't of guessed05:11
Zuidenhaha05:11
tiglionabbitZuiden: can you dial in to another machine?05:11
orlandoin synaptic, whats the difference between 'mark for removal' and 'mark for complete removal'05:11
Zuidenno05:12
aukyou are on here.05:12
FlannelKingconfiguation files05:12
regeyafreddy_: ?05:12
naliothorlando: configurartion files05:12
aukZuiden: what comp are you on now?05:12
Zuideni am using a WUSB11 ver 2.6 with an atmel chipset05:12
Zuidensame one05:12
gm78freddy_: r u thinking kubuntu and ubuntu?05:12
tiglionabbitorlando: generally you want to pick complete removal if you don't plan on installing the program again05:12
orlandooh ok05:12
freddy_no lol, rpm lovers and apt lovers05:12
Zuidenexcept unless i am running mandrake 10 i am not getting anywhere without having to install the drivers05:13
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FlannelKingno one knows anything about security permissions?05:13
freddy_i hate rpm, i love urpmi tho05:13
aukbut how are you talking on here w/o internet?05:13
Zuidenerrrr05:13
|QuaD-if i dist upgrade from sarge -> hoary, how stable is that?05:13
Zuideni am on my windows partition right now05:13
tiglionabbitFlannelKing: what type of permissions?  You mean unix file permissions?05:13
aukoh.05:13
tiglionabbit|QuaD-: I wouldn't imagine it would be very stable..05:14
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|QuaD-tiglionabbit: i heard it was, wasn't sure thoug05:14
tiglionabbitbut I'm not completely sure05:14
aukbut you cannot get internet on ubuntu??05:14
FlannelKingNo, I mean security context permissions05:14
Zuideni cannot pick up my USB Network Access Point05:14
Zuidenso i need to install the drivers05:14
Zuidendoes the 5.04 have support for atmel chipsets?05:15
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FlannelKingtiglionabbit, no, I mean security context stuff, as in SELinux, at least I think I do.05:15
tiglionabbitI don't know what SELinux is...05:15
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rronkivxi love ubuntu05:15
FlannelKingIts apparently a library, and its in ubuntu, but no one seems to know anything about it05:15
Zuidenman i just read about it05:16
FlannelKinglibselinux1 is the package05:16
Zuidenits in FC405:16
aukZuiden: hmm then try downloadign the package on windows, transfering it to the linux partition, and setting up apt to do local fielsliek on thatlink i gave3 you05:16
dabaR_I hate it.05:16
auk?05:16
Zuidenthats what i am planning to do05:16
aukok05:16
tiglionabbitauk: you could tell him to use dpkg for that05:16
aukoh, yeah05:16
aukthendo that05:16
dabaR_auk no, just get the packages, and dpkg -i package them05:16
Zuidendpkg?05:16
aukdabaR_: what?05:16
dabaR_he should do that.05:17
aukman dpkg05:17
tiglionabbitZuiden: dpkg is debians version of rpm.  man dpkg and read about it05:17
dabaR_Zuiden just get the files from the archives, and dpkg -i package.deb05:17
bddebianpfft, dpkg / apt* r0x rpm :-)05:17
Zuidenoh good deal05:17
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Zuidensaves me a bunch of time05:17
dabaR_read the man if you really feel like it...05:17
Zuidenhaha05:18
Zuideni bet its a great read05:18
dabaR_lol05:18
odie5533Anyone here know how to enable C++ highlighting in VIM?05:18
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dabaR_I am installing Ubuntu now, you think it will play nice with my windows partition?05:18
crimsunodie5533: :syn on05:18
aukyes05:19
aukdabaR_: it will play very nicely, but not the other wa yaround.05:19
dabaR_yeah, hey, it did not before, we'll see.05:19
odie5533crimsun: thankyou05:19
aukmine gave me a default entry in grub and set it up to the master boo trecord and everything automated.05:20
ajmitchFlannelKing: what do you want to know about selinux & ubuntu?05:20
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klosterwere can i download the new kernel for ubuntu05:20
dabaR_I am hoping actually that GRUB will pick up Debian on the other hard drive, and windows, and the Ubuntu, off course.05:20
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dabaR_"the new kernel for ubuntu"05:21
FlannelKingajmitch: I want to know what the equivalent command to chcon is.  Well, ultimately I want to know how to make it stop being a problem for apache/svn05:21
Zuidenautomatically?05:21
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kloster2.6.12.1 for ubuntu05:21
ajmitchFlannelKing: SELinux isn't enabled in ubuntu05:22
FlannelKingajmitch, Ive set up everything else (apache/svn) correctly, except I keep getting permission errors for my svn repo05:22
ajmitchunless you've set it up yourself05:22
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FlannelKingajmitch: there's a libselinux1 package, enabled by default05:22
FlannelKingajmitch: at least, it's enabled, but I didnt do it.05:22
ajmitchFlannelKing: that's a library package, and selinux is not enabled in the kernel, nor is the policy loaded05:23
FlannelKingajmitch: does that enable it? or is that just stuff incase something needs it?05:23
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Zuidenkloster i think the kernel image is in synaptic05:23
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ajmitchthat's just code for userspace apps for setting/checking contexts, etc05:23
FlannelKingajmitch: alright, thanks, Ive been trying to figure out the deal with that for ... well, 12 hours now.  And no one could tell me05:23
bddebianajmitch: Oh suuure, won't help me eh?? :-)05:23
FlannelKingyeah, I wasnt sure if it was or not05:23
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FlannelKingbut, I still have the problem of permissions then05:23
klosteri dont think so for that kernel version?05:23
kloster2.6.12.1?05:23
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Zuidenthey have linux-source-2.6.1205:24
Zuideni am looking at it right now on packages.ubuntu.com05:24
ajmitchFlannelKing: yes, is it a fsfs repository?05:24
Zuidenare you running breezy?05:24
FlannelKingajmitch and there was absolutely no documentation about it05:24
FlannelKingajmitch yeah, fsfs, owned by www-data05:24
klosterim not running breezy05:25
FlannelKingajmitch its a new repo, never had anything added to it05:25
ajmitchthere usually isn't documentation on libraries05:25
ajmitchand what's the svn problem?05:25
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cdcdo you guys customize Ubuntu?05:25
FlannelKingbottom of this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1580905:26
cdcor just use it as u get it?05:26
fidgethurray! I fixed my fstab problem much thanks to everyone who helped!!05:26
FlannelKingwell, its changed a little since then, but it's all right, at least, as far as the guys over at #svn can tell05:26
robitaillecdc: customize?  as in changing the look of your screen?  yes.  colors, themes, my panels, are all different from a default one.05:26
tiglionabbitcdc: synaptic makes it easy to install and remove programs, and if you go to gnome-look.org you can find some themes and such05:26
Zuidenblah there is no one on the breezy torrent05:27
transgressZuiden: you don't wanna run breezy05:27
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oofnikdoes anyone feel like helping out a new ubuntu user with sound?05:27
transgressZuiden: /topic05:27
ajmitchFlannelKing: what does ls -lad /var/devel/svn show?05:27
klostercan i use breezy packages? my pc dont collapse?05:28
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FlannelKingdrwxr-xr-x  7 www-data www-data 4096 2005-06-22 01:17 /var/devel/svn05:28
Zuidenwhats wrong with using breezy?05:28
ajmitchand /var/devel/svn/format05:28
auki would be very impressed if you got your pc to collapse :D05:28
robitailleZuiden:  it's very unstable, and break quite often05:28
ajmitchZuiden: it's in development, so you get to keep the pieces when it breaks05:28
FlannelKing-r--r--r--  1 www-data www-data 2 2005-06-22 01:17 /var/devel/svn/format05:28
|QuaD-anyone using hoary's hula package?05:28
ajmitchFlannelKing: chmod ug+w /var/devel/svn/format05:29
Zuidenah so breezy is the bleeding edge's bleeding edge?05:29
orlandosynaptic says i have linux-image-386 installed... shouldnt it be 686? i have a pentium 305:29
ajmitchFlannelKing: I'm only guessing based on the svn+ssh repository I have here05:29
Zuidenalpha tsting and so forth05:29
ajmitchZuiden: more or less05:29
dabaR_cdc I just install ubuntu, and whatevedr comes with it I use that, and ignore the thousands of packages in the repositories...05:29
|QuaD-orlando: how much ram you have05:29
robitailleZuiden:  one some days, it's not even the edge, it's off the table05:29
orlando320mb RAM05:29
FlannelKingwhy would it create the repo with the other permissions then?05:29
auk|QuaD: in aobut thirty seconds05:29
oofnikif anyone has an audigy 2 sound card working under hoary please let me know... thanks everyone05:29
|QuaD-orlando: i would stick with the 38605:29
Zuidenhaha05:29
auk|QuaD-: *05:29
|QuaD-auk: till you use hula?05:29
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aukyep05:30
orlandooh ok05:30
ajmitchFlannelKing: I don't know, and my repository is not on an ubuntu or debian box :)05:30
|QuaD-auk: i wanna know how stable it is05:30
bddebianajmitch: blasphemy05:30
ajmitchbddebian: oh, it's you..05:30
ajmitch:)05:30
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bddebian:'-(05:30
dabaR_oofnik I know a person that has it working05:31
Zuidenwhats hula?05:31
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dabaR_not in breezy, tho...05:31
aukhmm what is the binary called?05:31
|QuaD-Zuiden: yeah05:31
flankki am using the xfce mail checker with a pop server, works fine.. but the icon stays red after my mail has been checked. is there a way around this?05:31
Zuidenhaha05:31
dabaR_disable the on board in bios.05:31
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oofnikdabaR_ what type of audigy do you have?05:32
rcec52Anyone experience kubuntu network setting disruptions?05:32
ZunderholzI'm having trouble finding the w32codec package05:32
auk|QuaD-: where id the binary?05:32
|QuaD-auk: when you get it up and running can you pm the results, how easy it was, etc05:32
|QuaD-auk: no idea... don't have it up05:32
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FlannelKingajmitch: nope, didnt help.05:32
tiglionabbitZunderholz: add the universe and multiverse repositories05:32
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dabaR_oofnik I dont.05:32
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dabaR_oofnik disable the on board in bios, look at forums(search for esd alsa sound linux) and ask crimsun05:33
rcec52Everyone here running Ubuntu?05:33
dabaR_if you do all those, it will work.05:33
ajmitchFlannelKing: keep checking up the tree, /var/devel, /var, to make sure that www-data has at least read & execute permissions on the dirs05:33
cdci needto compile packages or rather compile the kernel and stuff like that. For doing all these is Ubuntu the right distro?05:33
oofnikdabaR_ onboard is off, it worked well in windows, as well as knoppix live and FC405:33
hondjefor that stuff, all distros are the same05:33
ajmitchcdc: why do you need to compile the kernel?05:34
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dabaR_oofnik ok, go one with my procedure...05:34
dabaR_go on, rather.05:34
psirixcan someone help me with a problem im having with ubuntu? please pm me05:34
oofnikhah it's what i've been doing for the last six hours.. i've changed so many settings05:35
cdcajmitch, i need to get the IPSec code and then i need to compile the kernel05:35
oofnikrecompiled and reinstalled alsa as well and that didn't help..05:35
hondjeIPSec and a desktop distro?05:35
Zuidendoes Hoary ship with 2.6.10 as default?05:35
oofnikpsirix what kind of problem are you having05:35
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ajmitchZuiden: yes..05:35
ajmitchhondje: why not?05:35
psirixerror: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH05:35
ajmitchipsec has its uses, although I'd think that ipsec is already enabled in the kernel for those that want to use it05:36
psirixthats what i get when i try to install applications05:36
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oofnikpsirix, you need to install gcc05:36
cdchondje, IPSec and a desktop distro ? i ve not done kernel compilation and stuff like that so i need to learn all those05:36
ajmitchpsirix: so.. apt-get install build-essential, or get that package in synaptic05:36
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psirixit doesnt come with the install of ubuntu?05:36
oofniktry: sudo apt-get install gcc05:36
oofnikas well as what ajmitch said05:36
_catwhat is unbutu ?05:36
transgressoofnik: that's wrong.  he just needs build-essential05:36
cdchondje, i need to learn the compilation process loading of modules and all those which distro would be apt to learn ?05:36
dabaR_oofnik I would search the forums for what I had said earlier, there is an article about sound in linux, that is what you could try following, and then also I know for a fact that crimsun can fix audigy2...I think I know for a fact, anyhow.05:36
bob233help please, my ubuntu keep crashing for no reason, completely freezes, dmesg shows nothing unusual, my ubuntu is posessed! help05:36
hondjeSure, lots of uses, but also silly....like running solarix x86 on a laptop, or getting hardware acceleration for your gfx card working with gentoo hardened05:37
auk|QuaD-: i am not going to install it...05:37
hondjecdc: they're all the same05:37
hondjeone kernel is the same as another05:37
_catcan i add unbutu source to debian source.list ?05:37
psirixthanks, i'll give that a shot05:37
tiglionabbitcdc: gentoo?05:37
ZunderholzI added the universe and multiverse repositories, and I still don't see w32codecs05:37
oofnikthanks dabaR_, i'll see if he's around05:37
aukit removed a package that it needs to function...05:37
auk:postfix"05:37
tiglionabbit_cat: not recommended..05:37
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psirixso now does sudoa pt-get automatically download and configure certain applications?05:37
|QuaD-auk: ok05:37
tiglionabbitZunderholz: have you updated/reloaded ?05:37
auklooks like a headache in waiting05:38
auksorry05:38
zenlunaticpsirix: man it05:38
tiglionabbitpsirix: yep05:38
|QuaD-auk: heh05:38
|QuaD-np05:38
psirixcool05:38
cdctiglionabbit, u use gentoo?05:38
zenlunaticpsirix: oh nm05:38
tiglionabbitcdc: no, I use ubuntu05:38
psirixhmm, now im getting another error, im trying to install fluxbox05:38
aukif oyu want a reiview, though...checkout this link: http://arstechnica.com/columns/linux/linux-20050320.ars05:38
rcec52Anyone go Gnome Apt Software manager install? Question. . .it asks for superuser 'root' password. ..what do you enter?05:38
psirixit says error: c++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check05:38
tiglionabbitrcec52:05:39
Zuidenis there any reason for updating to 2.6.12?05:39
tiglionabbit!root05:39
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:39
zenlunaticrcec52: root password05:39
hondjepsirix: why not just apt-get install fluxbox?05:39
aukrcec52: if you are the only user, your passwd05:39
bob233can someone help please, my ubuntu keeps crashing, i thikn its X related, something about ati cards not liking 3d acceleratgion or something05:39
psirixidk im trying to learn05:39
psirixlol05:39
tiglionabbitzenlunatic: no, that's wrong, he uses user password05:39
rcec52Thanks05:39
FlannelKingajmitch: nope, that still didnt help, everything has rwx permissions for ug05:39
Dj_AlTeKhey ne1 here know how to edit the wine config file??05:39
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aukanyone know howoto give bash colors?05:40
zenlunaticauk: man bash05:40
aukor, gnome-terminal instead?05:40
zenlunaticauk: google bash cusonmization05:40
Zuidengo to your monitor05:40
tiglionabbitauk: which terminal are you using?  xterm should do it05:40
hondje~/.bashrc05:40
rcec52passwd donen't work as root password. . . I'm the only user on the system. . .05:40
Zuidenmess with the colour option ;)05:40
aukgnome-terminal05:40
auki mean color-coding, not just all the text one color05:41
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Dj_AlTeKhey ne1 here know how to edit the wine config file??05:41
dabaR_there is a edit prefs color scheme for that...05:41
dabaR_something through the gui.05:41
auklike on a KNOPPIX boot05:41
hondjeman dircolors, and edit your .bashrc05:41
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bob233hey folks, this is my first time on #ubuntu, help a noob out please, just give me some pointers ill do the rest, comp frezes over and over05:41
oofnikDj_AlTeK install winesetuptk05:41
tiglionabbitauk: edit-> current profile  should let you change the colors you're using.  All 16 of them05:41
siorfinso does anyone know how to get ipw2100 working in ubuntu, it refuses to work or even recognize my wireless router05:41
siorfinworked two days ago whne i was running fedora05:42
Dj_AlTeKoofnik: where can i get that? or does it come with wine?05:42
hondjesiorfin: did you laod the module?05:42
ajmitchFlannelKing: and is www-data the owner of /var/devel?05:42
rcec52once again. . .how do I get this gnome apt software manager to allow me to sign into it properly? When I installed Ubuntu it didn't ask for a root password. . .05:42
tiglionabbitbob233: no idea, but I've heard that from a few people05:42
oofnikyou can install it, it's a package, just do apt-get install winesetuptk05:42
dabaR_nice, it looks like my Ubuntu GRUB picked up all my OSs.05:42
hondjercec52: just use your passwd05:42
tiglionabbitrcec52: why not use synaptic?  And it's your user password05:42
Zuidenbob233 i would try a reinstall05:42
Zuidenmaybe try a different distro05:42
FlannelKingajmitch no, just the svn repository /var/devel/svn05:43
bob233tiglionabbit: yea people with ati cards have this prob and i saw a wiki page showing how to fix it by disabling 2d and 3d acceleration but now i dunno how to find that page again :(05:43
aukrcec52: enter your passwoird05:43
rcec52I've got synaptic installed and running I thought I would want to see any software differences. ..05:43
dabaR_nice I booted into windows...05:43
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bob233Zuiden: but i just got everything working and instaled on this one :(05:43
psirixis there a way to apt-get x window system libraries and headers?05:43
DannoHungBlargh, how do you recompile an application that you downloaded a package for?05:43
rcec52I still get a wrong password error with this gnome apt. . .05:44
Dj_AlTeKoofnik: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/176 thats what i get when i try that05:45
aukcan oyu get into synaptic?05:45
DannoHungYesh, yesh I can05:45
tiglionabbitrcec52: when you installed it, did it have an ubuntu logo by it in synaptic?  It may not be meant for ubuntu.  You can create a root password by saying `sudo passwd`05:45
ajmitchFlannelKing: so chmod o+rx /var/devel, check if it helps05:45
bob233and why the hek should ubuntu have this gigantic bug with xorg, im gonna install debian05:45
tiglionabbitrcec52: though ubuntu does not recommend having the root account usable05:45
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regeyagigantic bug in xorg, eh05:45
Dj_AlTeKoofnik you get it??05:46
Amaranthbob233: Are you using the 2.6.11 kernel in hoary?05:46
FlannelKingthat didnt change anything... you mean the svn directory (the actual repo?)05:46
bob2332.6.1005:46
bob233hoary05:46
TokenBadwoo...new background for machine will look awsome when rendering is done05:46
oofnikehh.. give me a sec Dj_AlTeK05:46
FlannelKingajmitch that didnt change anything... you mean the svn directory (the actual repo?)05:46
Amaranthbob233: Ok, that's not it then.05:46
Dj_AlTeKk oofnik05:46
rcec52No there wasn't a ubuntu icon by it when I installed it with synaptic. . .so I guess it won't work. .05:46
bob233Amaranth: how to you update the kernel? how come i didnt get 2.6.11?05:46
bob233should i compile it?05:47
Amaranthbob233: You don't want 2.6.11.05:47
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oofnikAmaranth what's wrong with 2.6.11?05:47
bob233Amaranth: linus got ahead of himself again?05:47
Amaranthbob233: The 2.6.11 in hoary is a prerelease version that pretty much just locks up your system as soon as GNOME starts.05:47
Amaranthno, the real 2.6.11 is good05:47
Amaranththe one in hoary is a prerelease version05:47
oofnikDj_AlTeK accept the chat invite i sent you05:47
oofnikah.. i see05:48
bob233ah, ok, so anyone knows about this problem with X crashing? i cant find a thing in log files05:48
Dj_AlTeKi cant dcc05:48
crazyhorsemh i never got a vanilla kernel running in ubuntu05:48
ajmitchFlannelKing: no, I meant /var/devel05:48
Amaranthbob233: anything in dmesg?05:48
FlannelKingajmitch: it already was +rx for owner05:48
bob233nothing unusual,05:48
crazyhorseit ever freezes my sys just after grub is finished05:48
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oofnikDj_AlTeK how come?05:48
Amaranthor /var/log/?05:48
Dj_AlTeKoofnik: dunno05:48
Amaranthcan't remember the exact name05:48
ajmitchFlannelKing: rwxrwxr-x ?05:48
ajmitchor similar?05:48
FlannelKingyep05:48
FlannelKingexactly that05:48
ajmitchok05:49
bob233i read a post about it, the solution was to disable 3d and 2d acceleration, apparently ubuntu has this bug with some ati cards, if i find it again i will post the link so you guys wont think im making this up05:49
rcec52Will there be alot to expect with the next installment of 'Ubuntu?' I know the Kubuntu will have alot of software package updates I suspect. . .05:49
FlannelKingajmitch: got it working05:49
dabaR_Ill still think you just wrote it up and hacked the server...05:49
oofnikDj_AlTeK i think you need to enable universe and multiverse sources, let me find you a link05:49
Zunderholztiglionabbit:   I've added all the repositories, done an apt-get update and I still can't get w32codecs.   I tried searching in Synaptic, but it finds nothing05:49
hondjeomg haxor!!!05:49
FlannelKingajmitch: guys over at svn told me to +rwx the repo05:49
oofnikDj go here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories05:50
Dj_AlTeKthanx oofnik05:50
bob233Amaranth: you knwo what im gonna go for a fresh install, do you thnk its too much pain to go for debian instead of ubuntu? i had to reinstall ubuntu like 10 times so far05:50
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oofnikno problem, let me know if you get it to work05:50
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Dj_AlTeKwill do05:50
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Amaranthbob233: Well, sarge has GNOME 2.805:50
Amaranthbob233: And debian unstable is about to break as bad as breezy has been broken05:51
bddebianZunderholz: I haven't seen the whole conversation but you could try "sudo apt-cache dump |grep codec" to make sure you have the right package name05:51
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rcec52I installed Debian and couldn't get the Wifi installation to work with my system. . .05:51
bob233Amaranth: is there any good kde based distros? i bought a b ook on kde and kubuntu sucked, next time i wanna go for some distro based on kde05:51
FlannelKingalright, back to the lot of you, I have apache running, and mysql, but myapache log gets.... a lot of errors: PHP Warning:  Function registration failed - duplicate name - mysql_num_fields in Unknown on line 005:51
hondjeAmaranth: sid is about to be sid again?05:51
Amaranthhondje: aye, sid is going to break your toys05:51
hondjeAmaranth: thanks for the warning :D05:51
Amaranthhondje: i know of at least a gcc4 transition and python 2.4 transition05:52
FlannelKingabout... 70 of them, each time apache starts, anyone know how to fix it?05:52
TokenBadhows going hondje?05:52
TokenBadyou good?05:52
Amaranththere are probably more things that are going to break your toys horribly05:52
hondjeAmaranth: oh, that'll be ugly...time to run backups then :)05:52
hondjeTokenBad: Doing good, bit tired, you?05:52
TokenBadpretty good..chilling and waiting on this new render to finish05:52
ZuidenTHIS TORRENT IS SO SLOW05:53
dabaR_this is not a torrent, its IRC...05:53
Zuideni have met lab rats with one leg that can go fast than this05:53
oofnikhaha05:53
Zuidenyou are right05:53
ajmitchFlannelKing: ok, good05:53
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Zuidenno wonder nothing is downloading05:53
Tobahow would I install from a .deb file?05:53
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oofnikum.. synaptic?05:54
Zuidendpkg right?05:54
dabaR_dpkg -i synaptic.deb05:54
FlannelKingajmitch: well, that and I tried https, but I dont know what in my conf file made it have to be ssl, do you?05:54
Tobaty05:54
dabaR_toba manitoba?05:54
Zuidenwhats does dpkg do?05:54
hondjeTokenBad: render of what?05:54
dabaR_man dpkg05:54
dabaR_haha05:54
psirixwhat's the difference between using sudo apt-get and just apt-get?05:54
ajmitchFlannelKing: well you'd need to setup an ssl certificate05:54
oofnikwhen all else fails haha05:54
oofniksudo makes you do it as root05:54
crazyhorsepsirix, sudo apt-get makes apt-get run with root privileges05:55
dabaR_apt-get without sudo(unless you are root) does not work,...05:55
psirixah05:55
psirixthanks05:55
oofnikyup05:55
FlannelKingI did that, and that all works, but what in my config makes it so I can only access it over https? rather than normal http?05:55
dabaR_thats a big difference...05:55
tiglionabbitpsirix: apt-get has to run with root privileges.  sudo adds root to anything05:55
oofnikoh, regarding that.. anybody know how to disable root password?05:55
psirixgotcha05:55
dabaR_!root05:55
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:55
oofniki did sudo passwd and now i want to undo that..05:55
dabaR_it shows it there.05:55
FlannelKingajmitch: I did that, and that all works, but what in my config makes it so I can only access it over https? rather than normal http?05:55
psirixis there anyway to get the x window system libraries and headers using apt-get?05:55
psirixi need those to instlal fluxbox05:55
Zuidenwhat does sudo stand for?05:55
dabaR_on top of a server install?05:56
hondjepsirix: apt-get install fluxbox05:56
oofniksuper user DO05:56
dabaR_strangely unusual05:56
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dabaR_difference octal05:56
oofnikor something to that effect05:56
Zuidengotcha05:56
psirixit says couldn't find package flubxox05:56
psirixfluxbox*05:56
crazyhorseFlannelKing, i suggest you configure a redirection from http zu https.05:56
hondjepsirix: add the universe repositories05:56
dabaR_sudo aptitude search fluxbox05:56
oofnikdabaR_ !root doesn't do anything?05:56
TokenBadhondje, new background for my computer05:57
hondjeTokenBad: ah05:57
Tobahrm05:57
FlannelKingyeah, I will, but I was just wondering why its required to be https.05:57
TokenBadI do my own graphics05:57
Tobajust installed skype from the .dep file05:57
Tobausing -i05:57
Tobaand it won't run ;(05:57
psirixhondje: how would i go about doing that?05:57
tiglionabbitoofnik: man passwd, look for the part where it tells you how to set it to a password that cannot be entered05:57
dabaR_oofnik, !root makes ubotu give you the URL of the page where your question is answered.05:57
dabaR_like so:05:57
dabaR_!root05:57
ubotuhmm... root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:57
oofnikthanks guys05:58
hondjepsirix: in the /etc/apt/sources.list file05:58
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psirixthen what? i kinda need help im a newb05:58
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dabaR_psirix go sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal05:59
psirixjust uncomment the file?05:59
dabaR_and follow the instructions in the file.05:59
psirixyeah i used nano05:59
dabaR_yes, ,remove the # from the universe line.05:59
psirixi kinda know how to do stuff05:59
psirixbut not really05:59
hondjeYes, where it says 'uncomment the following two lines'05:59
tiglionabbitpsirix: uncomment the lines that have one hash05:59
psirixlol05:59
psirixthanks05:59
IcemanV9fluxbox is in the universe packages05:59
dabaR_hey, thanks,m IcemanV9 we were all wondering where they were;)06:00
FlannelKingIm running apache2/php/mysql and each time I restart apache, I get about 70 errors like this: PHP Warning:  Function registration failed - duplicate name - mysql_num_fields in Unknown on line 0.  Anyone know what that could be?06:01
dabaR_I hate the big installation at first boot of ubuntu06:01
IcemanV9fluxbox version is 0.9.11-1 if you want to know06:01
tiglionabbitdabaR_: how else would you want it?06:01
dabaR_and then after that, I need to upgrade to hoary...I still do that...06:01
tiglionabbitwhy don't you start with hoary?06:01
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dabaR_I am impatient(just installed Sarge, XP, and now Ubuntu06:01
dabaR_cant wait to start using it...06:01
dabaR_still have only the warty cd, prolly time to get the other one...06:02
dabaR_this works, thats the thing:)06:02
tiglionabbitdownload!06:02
tiglionabbithehe06:02
dabaR_I will, I have partial files, I think somewhere...06:02
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Dj_AlTeKhey offnik i downloaded winesetuptk06:03
DannoHungHmmm... how the hell do I recompile Apache2 since I installed it from a package?06:03
Dj_AlTeKnow what do i do?06:03
e-headboys ... my blogs alive !!!06:03
dabaR_wow06:03
e-headit's alive !!! she breathes laddies !!!06:03
dabaR_where? pls tell us so we can read it...06:03
e-headshe's got legs sailor !!!06:04
dabaR_woohooo...06:04
psirixsweet it works :)06:04
Dj_AlTeKoofnik: i downloaded winesetuptk now what do i do?06:04
e-headsorry, I'm drunk again.06:04
psirixsorry for bugging the s*** out of you guys =/06:04
e-headwhat's with me getting drunk and crashing this party ?06:04
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oofnikDj_AlTeK did it install?06:04
tiglionabbithey, I've still got this same problem, nobody's been able to answer it for me yet.  In firefox, some text doesn't show up.  I can't see the words in any of the dashed-border areas on the ubuntu wiki06:04
dabaR_thats fine, we know where you live...06:04
e-headdabaR_: http://dotsandloops.net06:04
oofnikif it worked correctly then just type in winesetuptk in a shell06:04
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e-headohh shit ... i'm in the wrong channel ....06:05
dabaR_really??06:05
dabaR_I wouldve never guessed06:05
e-headno wonder i didn't recognize you kiddies ... i thought i was in #wordpress.06:05
e-head:)06:05
e-headyou can still read my blog though, if your bored.06:05
dabaR_oh, even though you were in the werong channel the UIRL still works?06:06
ale_Hi, channel, I'm having a bit of trouble with grub... actully grub is acting a bit wierd today :)06:06
dabaR_thats easy to fix, hit the any key...06:06
dabaR_hehe, sorry, thats it...06:06
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Zuidenoo the torrent picked up some speed06:07
yzeroHello06:07
yzeroI have a problem installing Ubuntu 5.04 on my qosmio f10 laptop..06:07
yzeroWhen it reboots it said Grub HD error06:07
oofnikis there any way to make synaptic stop asking me for a password every single time i open it?06:07
Dj_AlTeKoofnik: how do i install it?06:07
yzeroSo i had to fdisk /mbr and reset the active partition =[06:07
Dj_AlTeKwhat command do i use?06:07
dabaR_yes, open it every 15 seconds06:08
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tiglionabbitoofnik: it's good the way it is.  You can modify the command though06:08
oofnikwell Dj if you used apt-get install winesetuptk, it was installed automatically06:08
KillerSmurfhello all06:08
FlannelKingAlright, I have mysql extension installed twice in PHP (in apache), where would I find the configs to fix that?06:08
ale_I've got a sata and and ata drive and I've installed grub in the mbr of the sata drive, that is setup(hd1)...  and my root partion is in /dev/sda2 root(hd1,1)... wierd thing is it won't boot unless I set root(hd0,1). I've used grub-install and everything :)06:08
oofniktig it's just aggrevating, how can i modify the command?06:08
yzeroI wish i could get ubuntu installed period.06:09
tiglionabbitoofnik: actually no, you can't...    get used to using your password, it's a lot more secure this way.  If someone sits down at your computer, do you want them installing stuff?06:09
KillerSmurfI finally have my wacom pad up and going well.  I'm not sure how or what I did but it's going now06:09
tiglionabbitKillerSmurf: yay06:09
ale_yzero, is there an error number?06:09
oofnikhaha, i know tig, but i really am the only one who uses my computer, people get scared of the linux :-P06:09
yzeroale_ No. "Grub HD error"06:09
dabaR_I cant believe I got all three installed, and they all boot nice from GRUB...06:09
yzero=[06:09
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oofnikyzero, what kind of system are you installing on?06:10
tiglionabbitKillerSmurf: finished setting up xorg, and got pressure sensitivity in gimp?06:10
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dabaR_sudo remembers your passsword for 15 sex06:10
dabaR_haha06:10
IcemanV9FlannelKing: i'm no expert at this, but i believe you need to edit apache2.conf file06:10
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yzerooofnik, Toshiba qosmio F10 laptop06:10
DannoHungDoes anyone know how to recompile Apache2 if you installed it using apt-get?  I'm about pulling my hair out trying to figure out how to enable the different modules.06:10
tiglionabbitDannoHung: you cannot compile a deb.  Get the source06:10
dabaR_go into synaptic and reinstall it06:11
oofnikyzero thats a damn nice laptop.. haha i wish you luck06:11
DannoHungJust recompile it over the package?06:11
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Zuidenanyone here smoke a pipe?06:11
yzerooofnik, Everything is damn nice except the ubuntu install hehe06:11
yzerobut thx06:11
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dabaR_or man dpkg find how to dpkg --reconfigure apache206:11
yzeroI guess I'll have to install.. alt-f2 and check the grub config06:12
tiglionabbitit's dpkg-reconfigure06:12
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yzerohope I get it right the first time06:12
oofnikhah, yeah, well it could be worse.. *cough* gentoo06:12
dabaR_ok, then that should work, I think...06:12
bddebianDannoHung: Aren't the modules available as packages?06:12
yzeroI don't want it compiling for 24 hours lol.. i need it06:12
Dj_AlTeKhey how do i kill wine??06:12
TokenBadhondje, you seen any of my art stuff?06:13
dabaR_killall wine06:13
Dj_AlTeKthanx dabar06:13
DannoHungWell, some of them.06:13
yzeroI'd like to tell bob2 about it so maybe they can fix it in hoary06:13
tiglionabbitTokenBad: art stuff?06:13
FlannelKingIcemanV9 no, its php.ini in /etc/php4/apache2, apparently the extension is included twice for some reason.  Thanks though.06:13
TokenBadyeah mostly backgrounds06:14
oofnikhey is there anyway to make gnome use file browser as default when i open folders and things?06:14
zythick toshiba06:14
zyth:P06:14
DannoHungI'm following the "Howto setup Apache with FastCGI and Ruby bindings in Rails" guide and I don't think cgimak is anything standard.06:14
dabaR_the dabar strikes again06:14
oofnikas opposed to the plain nautilus folder view thing06:14
KillerSmurftiglionabbit Thanks again for focusing me on chptr 406:14
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dabaR_oofnik yes, in the gui menus, like edit>props always open in a browser window06:14
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IcemanV9FlannelKing: at least, you knew where :)06:14
TokenBadtiglionabbit, I post on deviantart06:15
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FlannelKingIcemanV9 only because I did a bit of searching06:15
tiglionabbitKillerSmurf: you're welcom.  did you say you'd got the gimp working with it?06:15
tiglionabbits/welcom/welcome06:15
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oofnikthank you dabaR_ i don't know how i missed that.. hah06:15
dabaR_the dabar strikes again...06:15
oofnik+1 for you haha06:16
KillerSmurftiglionabbit yes and wacomcpl is installed and works for adjusting the sensitivity06:16
oofnikso yeah.. anybody have experience with enabling sound in hoary? i've spent 6hrs+ now and could use a little help if anyone's out there06:17
dabaR_I just realized that it should really be hoarty and breezty...06:17
dabaR_like warty.06:17
KillerSmurfdoes anyone know if there is and EasyGPS equiv for *nix?06:17
yzerosomeone say my nick.. wanna check highlighting06:17
yzeropls06:17
dabaR_yzero06:17
bddebianyzero:06:17
yzerothx =] 06:17
dabaR_the dabar strikes again...06:17
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yzeroAnyone know a good place to get 1280x800 wallpapers?06:18
tiglionabbitoofnik: generally sound works by default.  It depends what program you're trying to get sound from.  There's a blurb in restricted about it06:18
tiglionabbit!restricted06:18
uboturumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:18
_root_Hi all :)06:18
ale_yzero: www.debiantart.com06:18
yzerodeviant art doesn't have much06:18
yzerofor that size06:18
yzeroand they have a few good 1900x1200 which work06:18
sproingietried google image search?06:18
dabaR_gnome-look.org art.gnome.org06:19
tiglionabbitlol, debiantart06:19
yzerook06:19
tiglionabbitbecause you know it's all about debian06:19
ale_lol06:19
yzerowww.wallpapersmania.com looks ok.06:19
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oofnikhmm.. i'm trying that tig, thanks06:20
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tito_Does anyone know if it's possible to download a large update on another PC - burn it to a cd, then bring it home and update via cd?06:20
dabaR_We'll see, if it is all about Debian, Ubuntu has a nice default desktop conf...for me...06:20
tito_I've got a slow net connection06:20
dabaR_tito, is the another pc ubuntu?06:20
tiglionabbitdabaR_: Ubuntu comes from Debian06:20
tito_no, windows  :(06:20
dabaR_really?06:20
yzeroi may just try debian next.06:20
tiglionabbitdabaR_: well it's based on Debian06:21
dabaR_ok, well, I would do this...06:21
oofnikin case there's a specific problem here, this is what alsamixer says: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device06:21
tiglionabbitDebian uses much older packages though, and is very thoroughly tested.  It works well for webservers06:21
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yzeroor I could do freebsd but their laptop hardware support blows ass.06:21
dabaR_tito_ sudo apt-get install -d whatever you are trying to get(not sure how to do it with dist-upgrade, maybe also -d) and then copy down the package names, download them from the web on the other comp, then get them to your comp(they are .deb) then after that dpkg -i package.deb06:22
johnnybezakwhats a good cli music jukebox guys?06:22
yzeroSo who do I inform of my laptop install problem so they can fix it in hoary?06:22
dabaR_tiglionabbit really, is that how it works?06:22
tito_ah, great, thanks dabaR_  !!!06:22
tito_I'll try that06:22
dabaR_welcome, not sure if you are doing dist-upgrade, it prolly still lists the packages, and when it asks you y/N say N06:23
johnnybezakyzero: file a bug report06:23
dabaR_yzero in breezy.06:23
tiglionabbitdabaR_: Ubuntu was created to be a much more up to date version of debian, with desktop software that is easier for casual users to use, thus 'linux for human beings'06:23
tito_great, okay06:23
yzerooops ya i mean breezy :P06:23
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dabaR_tiglionabbit nice...06:23
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yzeroblah i'll just use xp til breezy is official06:24
dabaR_so list the packages, write them down, get them from packages.ubuntu.com/org? and then get them back to this comp, and dpkg -i package.deb06:24
bddebianBlasphemy06:24
ale_What is the difference between apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade?06:24
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dabaR_update updates repos.06:24
ale_yup...06:24
dabaR_gets the package list from the repos enabled in sources.list06:24
tito_dabaR_ - how do I know which repo to go to on the web - there's like 5+ in my config file?06:25
dabaR_dist-upgrade upgraddes all packages available to upgrade.06:25
tito_sources.list, sorry06:25
tiglionabbitale_: upgrade upgrades packages but doesn't install new ones, dist-upgrade grabs new dependencies if newer versions require different things06:25
bddebianale_: update gets the list of packages.  upgrade, upgrades installed packages, dist-upgrade will upgrade all packages to the level set in sources.list06:25
oofnikwhats the command to restart my sound server?06:25
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tiglionabbitapt-get upgrade will sometimes say "X packages were held back" because they required things you do not have installed06:25
ale_thanx guys.06:25
SQFreakoofnik: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart06:25
bphanI've been having problems setting XP as my main bootloader menu. I tried dd /dev/hda3 fo ...  and all that to create an image but then it doesn't work06:25
tiglionabbitdist-upgrade gets those packages06:25
oofnikthanks SQFreak06:25
bphananybody know what might be the problme?06:26
oofnikwoaahh crap06:26
oofniki got a million beepy noises and "invalid card number" ??06:26
dabaR_tito, just go to http://packages.ubuntu.org/com? and search, thats what you can do...find the exact packages that dist-upgrade lists.06:26
SQFreakoofnik: It makes my computer do the Ubuntu "thunk" three times.06:26
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SQFreakoofnik: Sounds like something's messed up. (Yes, yes, thank you Captain Obvious.)06:26
oofnikhaha.. yeah something.. if not everything sound related06:27
oofnikanybody want to tackle sound problems?06:27
tito_dabaR_, okay I'll search around on ubuntu.org for a bit - at least it's possible!06:27
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dabaR__you mean making GRUB boot into windows by default in menu.lst?06:28
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oofnikaww i dont want to have to ditch ubuntu06:29
oofniki really like it06:29
dabaR__why are you ditching it now?06:29
SQFreakYeah, I just got my ShipIt CDs in the mail today! (I downloaded and burned the ISO, but having pressed CDs is so much cooler. :)06:29
yzerooofnick Have you gone through the ubuntuguide.org sound problem setup?06:29
oofnikyep, didn't help06:30
dabaR__what sound card do you have?06:30
oofnikaudigy 2 value06:30
yzerooffnick, is it detected on boot?06:30
yzerooof06:30
dabaR__ok, disabled on b oard in BIOS?06:30
oofniki'm pretty sure it is, but it does what it just did now, when alsa starts i get several beeps and 'invalid card number' several times06:30
oofnikand /dev/dsp doesn't exist, if that has anything to do with it06:31
dabaR__go verify...then also, crimsun knows how to fix sound...does any prog play sound?06:31
oofnikno, nothing06:31
oofnikalsamixer won't even run either06:31
oofnikcrimsun seems to be out06:31
dabaR__atm...06:32
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trueprophethey guys, anyone know a good avi to mpeg converter for ubuntu?06:33
Mejobloggshey, how can i set it so that if i install new things using 'Add/Remove' it installs from CD, not internet ?06:33
dabaR__which CD?06:34
dabaR__you need to add it to sources.list...06:34
dabaR__and comment out internet.06:34
dabaR__there should be an example from the ubuntu install CD in the file.06:34
imaek21:34:18 up 5 days,  8:25,  3 users,  load average: 2.12, 2.09, 1.8506:34
dabaR__wow, he can keep it up long...06:35
dabaR__5 days...o_O06:35
oofnikhaha..06:35
dabaR__dont encourage him...06:35
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oofnikhmm where could crimsun be..06:36
dabaR__dabar means beaver in my lang.(Croatian)06:36
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dabaR__#ubuntu-motu06:36
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dabaR__hehe06:36
dabaR__no hiding from the dabar.06:37
dabaR__only 54 minutes for the Hoary upgrade...06:37
dabaR__left.06:37
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knuckscan someone help me step by step on how to setup an ftp server on my pc?06:37
dabaR__sudo aptitude install proftpd in one step06:38
dabaR__for sftp sudo aptitude install vsftpd06:38
psirixdoes ubuntu create a root account by default?06:38
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psirixi dont remember creating a password or anything during install...06:38
ninwasudo passwd root06:38
ninwatype that to set the root password06:38
knuckshuh?06:38
dabaR__remember to turn off port 21 blocking on your router or firewall06:38
ninwacommon question06:38
ninwa :o)06:38
psirixoh ok thx06:38
psirixsry :(06:38
psirixme = n00b06:39
ninwanpn06:39
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ninwanp06:39
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dabaR__psirix no it doesnt06:39
flatfaceHey, have a stupid question about the Matrox mga-vid drivers; I followed all of the instructions, built it fine, but it compiles a module for kernel 2.6.10, whereas the only kernel on the machine is 2.6.10-5-386... Is there a way to control which kernel it compiles for with make-kpkg modules_image? (the resulting filename is mga-vid-2.6.10_1.55-0.1+10.00.Custom_i386.deb)06:39
Octaneim trying to remove the password from sudo... and i use the sample from ubuntuguide.org but it still prompts for a passssword06:39
dabaR__knucks type in sudo aptitude install proftpd in a terminal to install a ftp server in one step\06:39
dabaR__ftp does not encrypt passwords, so sftp is a better choice in some cases...06:39
dabaR__Octane no way to do that.06:39
OctanedabaR__, i cant have sudo use a password, because i need to run certain apps from a script with sudo06:40
knucksdabaR_ it asks what to run proftpd from...inetd or standalon?06:40
Octanehttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#allowmoresudoers06:40
r258NzKiwican't u use sudo passwd <username>06:40
Octanelook you can do it without a password06:40
dabaR__knucks it also explains what is what.06:40
psirixyeah sudo passwd <username> works06:40
psirixi just did it06:40
knucksah ok06:41
flatface...Anyone?06:41
knuckshow do i unblock port 21?06:41
Octanei just want to ubuntu to prompt for a pw when i do sudo06:41
knucksah nvm06:41
knucksi know how06:41
dabaR__can you <password into the command?06:41
dabaR__knucks have a router?06:41
knucksyeah06:41
knucksok opened port 2106:41
knucksnow what06:41
zythfwd port 21 to your linux system06:42
dabaR__now setup port forwarding to the computer through the router, for port 2106:42
dabaR__set up a static IP onn the comptuer...06:42
SQFreakI'm running Ubuntu 5.04 (with kdelibs installed). Would it kill my installation to use the KDE Kubuntu KOffice 1.4 repo and download KOffice 1.4?06:42
knucksok..06:42
knucksnow what06:42
dabaR__set up a static IP already?06:43
knucksi have one, yes06:43
Octaneso there is no way to make ubuntu not request a password when I do sudo as a certain user?06:43
zython Comcast?06:43
zythweird.06:43
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dabaR__ok, well, also port 21 forwarding to that IP set up on the router?06:43
zythdidn't know we did static for non business06:43
dabaR__not on Comcast, after the router...06:43
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dabaR__zyth06:43
dabaR__what do you do?06:44
knuckszyth mine's basically static..i never turn my router off and the IP stays static06:44
zythI do tech support for Comcast.06:44
dabaR__where, which city, bitch:)06:44
zythknucks, ahh.06:44
dabaR__I do too...06:44
knucksyeh no literal static ip06:44
knuckshah06:44
zythdabaR__, in Winnipeg, Canada06:44
capianyone know how I can monitor/restrict my bandwidth with a program, or per user. Sort of like how webservers do?06:44
knucksok now what dabaR_?06:44
ale_Octane, did you try adding the line "<username> ALL=(ALL) ALL" to /etc/sudoers?06:44
dabaR__haha06:44
dabaR__me too:)06:44
dabaR__nice, whats your name?06:44
zythlol06:44
dabaR__yeah...06:44
unomeComcast can suck my balls with their ports blocking bs06:44
Octaneale_, yes06:44
dabaR__there are no ports blocked...06:45
Octaneoh shit06:45
robitailleale_:  that line will still ask you for your password for sudo06:45
knucksso how do i run the server?06:45
Octaneno, ale_ thats where i messed up06:45
dabaR__it is running06:45
dabaR__go ftp username@localhost06:45
flatfaceDoes anyone here have experience with mga-vid?06:45
dabaR__zyth whats your name?? I work in ecare...06:45
ale_well, it doesn't...06:45
Octaneactually yes that line asks you for a pw06:45
ale_it's working here...06:45
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r258NzKiwiis any 1 here from NZ06:45
knucksknucks@linux:~$ ftp knucks@localhost06:45
knucksftp: knucks@localhost: Unknown host06:45
knucksftp>06:46
ale_i wrote it once, and then...06:46
ale_it didn't ask for pwd anymore.06:46
tito_If apt-get upgrade says I need: openoffice.org version 1.1.3-8ubuntu2.3 and I go to the web to pull  openoffice.org_1.1.3-8ubuntu2.3_all.deb --- is that the same thing?06:46
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dabaR__do ftp knucks@staticIP06:46
Octaneale_ isright06:46
Octaneit works06:46
Octanethanks so much ale_06:46
Mejobloggsim from NZ06:46
dabaR__zyth, what? why are you not telling me?06:47
ale_Octane, you should be carefull with that...06:47
zythdabaR__, check yours msgs :P06:47
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ale_you have root power now :)06:47
surlytito yes06:47
djstito_, yep, that's the one06:47
dabaR__dunno how in bitchx06:47
zythoh lol06:47
tito_sweet, thanks!06:47
zythshoulda come up on main console06:47
djstito_, everything up to the _ should match06:47
knucksknucks@linux:~$ ftp knucks@68.60.67.13906:47
knucksftp: knucks@68.60.67.139: Unknown host06:47
knucksftp>06:47
dabaR__are you online?06:47
dabaR__hehe06:47
tito_okay, thanks djs06:47
djstito_, np06:48
knucksyeah..06:48
zythI'm not in wpg right now, I'm on extended leave of absence due to some family stuff06:48
knucksmaybe i didnt set something up right?06:48
zythwon't be back for like another month06:48
dabaR__oh, ok...06:48
knuckscan we private talk?06:48
dabaR__dunno how in bitchx, knucks.06:48
zythdabaR__, apt-get install xchat ;)06:48
dabaR__hehe, Mac.06:49
zythor are you connected via telnet/ssh?06:49
Octanebrb06:49
zythohh06:49
r258NzKiwimejobloggs r u from leeston or southbridge or dunsandel or christchurch06:49
zyththere has gotta be some graphical irc client for mac06:49
surlylooking for good resouce for removing packages in ubuntu...thnx06:49
tito_djs, just to confirm, I basically am only looking for the deb packages - not the diff.gz, .dsc, or tar.gz right?  (and then the highest version number of that deb package)?06:49
dabaR__brb06:49
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djstito_, yes, just the .deb files06:50
tito_k06:50
Mejobloggshow do you install the .deb files?06:50
iratsuwhat's responsible for my ipod mounting automatically when i plug it in?06:50
SQFreaksurly: you just want to remove packages? Synaptic is easy and great for that.06:51
tito_dpkg -i package.deb06:51
dabaR__knucks whats your static IP, try ftping that one.06:51
tito_right?06:51
SQFreakMejobloggs: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb06:51
djsMejobloggs, sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb06:51
surlytito: type "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org_1.1.3-8ubuntu2.3"06:51
Mejobloggsheh, thanks06:51
dabaR__iratsu gnome-volume-manager06:51
surlytito or just "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org06:51
tito_surly, I'm trying to figure out to get these large packages over to my house - I'm on slow dialup06:51
iratsudabaR__: where can i find the settings for that?06:51
tito_otherwise, I love apt-get06:52
dabaR__gnome-conf-editor06:52
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zythI wish openoffice 2 would hurry up and come out.06:52
tito_no kidding!06:52
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SQFreakzyth: I'm about to start playing around with KOffice 1.4...06:52
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K_Dallaszyth, you could still use the nightly builds06:52
dabaRI wish OOo2 would take it easy and come up with a good product:P06:52
zythSQFreak, KDE is the devil.06:52
kutucapewhat is kscand? and what it does?06:52
zythK_Dallas, true, yeah06:52
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surlytito: all i can suggest is running in while you sleep. i know that sucks....but thats the breaks.06:52
K_Dallasand it is pretty good and stable06:52
zythdabaR, we should all go back to WP5 for DOS!06:53
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SQFreakzyth: I use GNOME, but I run some KDE apps.06:53
naliothzyth: KDE? no windows is the devil06:53
dabaRI still use that...06:53
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tito_yea, it sucks...06:53
zythSQFreak, doesn't that look awful?06:53
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dabaRits good for the job...06:53
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zythdabaR, WP5 was an awesome program06:53
iratsuwhy is it that my ipod automatically mounts to /media/IPOD when it's written in /etc/fstab what it should mount at /mnt/ipod?06:53
SQFreakzyth: Not really...I mean, the KDE apps look a little out of place, but the apps run great.06:53
dabaRiratsu umount it, remount it to /mnt/ipod06:54
zythSQFreak, hm.  I had major issues with K3b in Warty, so I've avoided KDE apps since06:54
iratsudabaR: i'm not asking how to do it, i just wanna know why it does that06:54
SQFreakzyth: Oh, I love K3B!06:54
naliothzyth: k3b works wonderfully in hoary06:54
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SQFreakzyth: And KOffice is so much faster than OOo... But it all depends on what I feel like using for the day.06:55
zythnalioth, yeah? Can I make it LOOK nice too? ;)06:55
naliothzyth: i know nothing about skinning kde06:55
naliothzyth: i only want performance06:55
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dabaRzyth wear a blindfold, hehe06:55
zythnalioth, ahh k.  I'm just picky I guess.06:55
zythLOL06:55
zythrandomly click stuff in k3b, see what comes out06:56
dabaRnono, assistiv3 technologies.06:56
zythwoot06:56
dabaRI should be an op here.06:56
zythactually, the gnome keyboard works well for tabletpcs06:56
dabaRI never got that program to open, it isntalls, and I click it, and it defies me.06:57
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zythodd06:57
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dabaRya, whatever, I have fingers...06:58
dabaRluckily...06:58
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dabaRI couldnt work ecare otherwise...06:58
zythlol06:58
zythdinnertime06:58
zythI'm off.06:58
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dabaRsee ya06:59
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SQFreakKrita could use some work in working with big images. The zoom is unwieldy...06:59
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dabaRunome pages loading slow?07:04
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unomedabaR: the entire connection slow07:04
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jessidhi! could some of you tell me if installed ubuntu brings some p2p program?07:04
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dr_willisjessid,  you can easially install several07:06
dr_willisthe ubuntu wiki's have a p2p section07:06
tito_when a kernel is upgraded in ubuntu, what happens to the old one?07:06
pastyhermithow do I get ubuntu ppc to fire up at 1024x768 instead of 1600x120007:06
pastyhermitthis text console is all mini07:06
tito_do I need to delete the old kernel?07:07
dr_willistito_,  ive never deleted any.07:07
jessiddr_willis thanks...i'll try to look for it!!! I've tried with aMule, but coul not ./configure07:07
tito_I always had to in fedora - so I'm used to having the old option - but i can't find it07:08
ale_pastyhermit, you could try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:08
pastyhermitale_: Im talking about console07:08
pastyhermitlike no X dude07:08
pastyhermitalso .. thats a good point07:09
pastyhermithow do I get xorg to recognize this G3 studio display it gives me 640 in X but thats it everything else is out of range, as well its all garbled07:09
dr_willisthers  a X mode web site that  may help you out.07:10
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ale_aaah, the console... no vga=? option in the boot loader?07:10
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jessiddr_willis I can't find any link to software un ubuntu's web site :(07:12
ThE__OnEcan someone tell me how to do fullscreen in mplayer, rightclicking and full screen works but the actual video does'nt change size, how can i fix this?07:12
iratsuhas anyone gotten an error like this: "Error writing PC file "/mnt/ipod/iPod_Control/Music/F11/gtkpod00601.mp3"." in gtkpod?07:13
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naliothThE__OnE: does the 'f' key do anything?07:13
ninwaFor me it types the letter f.07:13
ninwaOh, nevermind. :oP07:13
ThE__OnElike i said, the window becomes full screen but the video stays the same size07:14
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ale_Did you try other video drivers (-vo xv option?) you can also try (-vo help)07:15
oofnikcan anybody get alsaconf to run on hoary?07:15
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ilba7ri have both ubuntu and kubuntu and i want to change the default display manager from kdm to gdm how can i do that?07:15
pastyhermitale_: thi07:16
pastyhermitale_: the vga option didnt work07:16
pastyhermitthis is some wierd mac thing07:16
pastyhermitalso ....07:16
pastyhermitwhere is this site you speak of to help wme with the monitor settings for X07:16
pastyhermit?07:16
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oofnikhey dabar07:17
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dabaRhey07:17
dr_willisilba7r,  use dpkg-reconfigure kdm07:17
oofnikdabar.. weird question.. can you run alsaconf?07:18
dabaRme?07:18
ilba7rthanx dr_willis07:18
oofnikyeah haha07:18
pastyhermitale_: ?07:18
dabaR_ alsaconf07:18
dabaR_bash: alsaconf: command not found07:18
oofnikyeah.. that's what happens with me.. you have alsa installed though dont you?07:19
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dabaR_alsamixer works...07:19
oofnikyeah thats odd07:19
dabaR_yours doesnt, right..07:20
oofnikit gives an error07:20
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pastyhermitAnyone know what the mintor settings are on a G3 studion display?07:20
oofnik:(07:20
dabaRhehe, Im nice.07:20
oofniki kick you07:20
dabaR /me kicks...07:20
oofniki want to get my damned sound working argghh07:20
dabaRcrimsun are you around, or perhaps asquare?07:21
oofnikcrimsun hasn't said anything in the hour and a half ive been here07:21
dabaRhe is a busy one.07:22
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dabaRok, Im gonna pretend Im a busy one, or at least a sleepy one, and go to bed.07:22
dabaRnight all.07:22
unomenight07:23
oofnikhaha, later07:23
tito_night dabar, thanks for your help07:23
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dabaR_hey, its nothing...07:23
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naliothany other dabars, your party is leaving07:23
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dr_willisHmm.. cant seem to get to a samba share with gnomes network browser tool. Its not asking for my user/password. perhaps its  got the wrong one cached.07:24
TokenBadwhat was command to see how much freespace on a drive again?07:25
dr_williswheres gnome cache those anyway?07:25
dr_willisdf -h, df -h07:25
dr_willisorr du -h :P07:25
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TokenBadI am so bad with commands07:25
vince_hello all07:25
naliothTokenBad: you can install "xdiskfree" for a pretty picture07:25
rbrenartI'm trying to configure kismet on my ubuntu system but am getting the following error "FATAL: Unknown capture source type 'ipw2100' in source 'ipw2100,eth1,wireless'", does ubuntu use the proper ipw2100 driver, or is it using ndiswrapper?07:25
yzeroAnyone else have a problem after install and you reboot "Grub hd error"07:25
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naliothamonkey: i didnt realize you were my neighbor07:27
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amonkeynalioth, where are you?07:28
naliothpasadena07:28
rbrenartok more simply put, with an intel ipw2100 card, does ubuntu use the ipw2100 drivers or the ndiswrapper drivers, or if youdon't know, do you know how I'd check?07:28
amonkeynot to far away at all07:28
amonkeynalioth, i'm over by east 8 and 1007:30
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pastyhermitAnyone know what the mintor settings are on a G3 studion display?07:32
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rbrenartok second questoin then, does anyone know how to add entries ot the Places menu?07:33
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john__i made a backup of my hd before reinstalling is there a way i can use the packages from before so i dont have to redownload a ton of stuff07:34
pastyhermitAnyone know what the mintor settings are on a G3 studion display?07:34
TokenBadhmm..any ideas on this07:35
TokenBadguy ftp into me07:35
naliothjohn__: you may put source pkgs in /var/apt/cache07:35
TokenBadand instead of it uploading it just sits there07:35
TokenBadand then times out..and then reconnects07:35
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john__k i did that wasnt sure if i needed to do anything else :)07:35
naliothjohn__: not sure either07:36
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john__going to try now hope thats all that needs done07:36
HermanDEAnybody have good luck making jabber talk to ldap for auth?07:36
yzeroAnyone else have a problem after install and you reboot "Grub hd error"07:37
HermanDEyzero, Are you running breezy?07:37
yzeroHermanDE, No.. hoary07:38
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yzeroIt's on a qosmio f10 toshiba laptop07:39
john__looks like that worked cool07:39
HermanDEyzero, In my world a borking grub usually means a new hard drive.....07:39
cartel_HermanDE: i gave up07:39
yzeroumm the laptop is like 1 week old07:39
yzeroworks fine07:39
cartel_laptops can be sketchy07:40
HermanDEcartel_, I can't stand not being able to run a simple app.....07:40
cartel_report it to grub list07:40
cartel_HermanDE: jabberd is not simple07:40
yzeroI want to get ubuntu running07:40
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HermanDEyzero, Hmmm....  Did you get a proper install prior to the bork?07:40
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yzeroyea07:40
yzerothe install works fine.. then when it boots its fucked07:40
cartel_HermanDE: try ejabberd07:40
yzeroso i have to fdisk /mbr and reset the xp partition to active07:40
naliothyzero: try lilo07:40
HermanDEyzero, Is the hard drive sata?07:40
transgressyzero: probably didn't actually get a good install then07:41
yzerotransgress. I've tried it twice..07:41
HermanDEcartel_, I'm thinking along the same lines....07:41
cartel_HermanDE: i had no luck with the jabber.org servers07:41
yzeroI know the cd is fine cuz i used it for 2 desktops07:41
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HermanDEcartel_, Are the normal jabber modules available through ejabber?07:41
yzeronalioth, How can I install lilo without being able to boot?07:41
transgressyzero: could be the disc...07:41
cartel_HermanDE: no its a reimplementation07:41
transgressoh07:41
naliothyzero: do you have a liveCd?07:41
transgresswell07:41
transgressumm07:41
transgressgod hates you then07:41
yzeronalioth: no =[07:41
rommerhow can i check what version of php i have installed07:42
naliothyzero: get one07:42
yzeroas a test?07:42
cartel_HermanDE: and its written in erlang07:42
yzerofark i'm on satellite net @ work heh.07:42
naliothyzero: to rescue your boot loader07:42
HermanDEcartel_, Yep, I've read the info....07:42
yzeroOh i see.07:42
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yzeroOk I'll download it over the night07:42
yzeroHow do I access it? just mount /dev/hda5 or whatever?07:43
HermanDEyzero, Can you do a boot with the cd on this system?07:43
yzeroHermanDE yes07:43
naliothyzero: you'll need to chroot to your installed ubuntu and set up lilo07:43
cartel_HermanDE: i fought with jabberd and jabber2d for two weeks on auth to ldap07:43
HermanDEcartel_, Did you toss it in the can or did you use ejabb?07:43
cartel_HermanDE: i used ejabberd07:44
HermanDEcartel_, Is it a clean setup/config with ldap?07:44
djsrbrenart, still here?07:44
yzeroCan i use my install cd to fix it somehow? or a tomsrtbt linux floppy maybe?07:44
cartel_its cleaner than jabberd :/07:44
HermanDEyzero, Usually....  The Ubuntu CD can also be used to fix a system...07:45
yzeroactually yea thats a problem since i'm sitting on a rig off the coast of thailand and i have no blank cds.07:45
yzeroHermanDE.. ok Can you tell me what to do? :P07:45
HermanDEcartel_, Thanks...  You just pushed jabber2d off of my server...  FOR GOOD.....07:45
SpecialBuddyso how do I start customizing this thing07:45
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john__whats a good site to learn how to make gnome themes/icons/window boarders07:46
TokenBadhow can I restart proftpd?07:46
yzeroI can always just reinstall ubuntu and goto alt-f2 once grub is installed...07:46
cartel_HermanDE, remember ejabberd is experimental07:46
HermanDEyzero, Ok....  Step ONE:  Insert CD..  Step TWO:  Boot off of the CD....  Step THREE:  When it is booted switch to another console....07:46
yzerooh ok.07:46
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yzeroI'll see what I can do07:47
yzerothanks07:47
crimsunoofnik: yes?07:47
HermanDEcartel_, That is what has kept me away.....07:47
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HermanDETokenBad, /etc/init.d/proftpd restart07:47
TokenBadthanks07:47
TokenBadis there a way to see what the upload speed that it gets?07:47
HermanDETokenBad, Are you trying to measure your bandwidth?07:48
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TokenBadno just want to know what his speed to me is07:48
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HermanDETokenBad, use iptraf07:49
vaa1I've got a "failed to initialize HAL", how do I get explicit Logs of this error ?07:49
Octaneim running kubuntu and i want to install a newer version of amarok... should i apt-get remove it and also remove the metapackage kubuntu-desktop07:49
cartel_herman did you try doing pam auth in jabberd207:49
Octanewill that ruine anything?07:49
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DukGalNamuhello07:49
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vaa1Octane : I'm a not sure, but this seems quite dangerous ! ;)07:50
HermanDEcartel_, My last attempt (which lasted 2 weeks) had me throwing everything I could.....  Including PAM, RADIUS, NSS, and LDAP.  All to get a simple LDAP auth...07:50
DukGalNamuhey anyone know how hard it would be to run a mac program (osx) in ubunut?07:50
HermanDEDukGalNamu, Pretty easy if it is a script....07:51
cartel_radius...07:51
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HermanDEDukGalNamu, Pretty complex if it is a binary executable....07:51
cartel_you masochist07:51
cartel_:] 07:51
naliothOctane: removing kubuntu-desktop won't cause any problem07:51
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DukGalNamuHermanDE: and if is a program like ... say.... photoshop?07:51
Octanevaa1, its not dangerous, kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, it just means im taking away amarok, which is a part of it07:51
cartel_DukGalNamu: install pearpc and dont expect it ro run fast07:52
cartel_to*07:52
HermanDEDukGalNamu, How much time do you have on your hands?07:52
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chris07:52
HermanDEDukGalNamu, And the follow up question...  Why not use something with a touch more painting power?07:52
vaa1Octane : okay, I've just learned something... thanks a lot ;)07:52
DukGalNamuummm 3mins... :P07:52
DukGalNamugimp?07:52
HermanDEDukGalNamu, Like the Great GIMP?07:52
DukGalNamuyeah07:52
DukGalNamui know07:52
HermanDEDukGalNamu, Or Blender....07:53
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DukGalNamubut photoshop is graphic arts standered07:53
DukGalNamuis blender free?07:53
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cartel_yes07:53
djsOctane, is the newer amarok version a .deb package?07:53
vince_Hey guys right now I'm using Debian because I tried ubuntu and I was curious but I would have to say ubuntu is #1 :)07:53
DukGalNamusorry for the lag07:53
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yzeroHermanDE, /dev doesn't have my hard drive device =[07:53
DukGalNamui am downloading naruto07:53
tiglionabbitDukGalNamu: yes, blender and gimp are free07:53
cartel_photoshop is standard for those who dont know psp :)07:53
HermanDEDukGalNamu, I have never been in a graphics shop where they denied work because it was not done using an Adobe product....07:53
DaehlieDukGalNamu: legally no doubt07:53
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tiglionabbitbrb07:54
DukGalNamuno but most work with adobe, and know adobe07:54
cartel_adobe cs is a steaming pile...07:54
TokenBadI have used photoshop, bryce, terragen, apophysis, vista pro, maya, autocad, and um..07:54
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SkifIs there a way to get mplayer installed on hoary?  I keep getting errors because marillat's repository tracks debian, so it won't install from there.  Is there an alternate source?07:54
TokenBadsome others I forget07:54
cartel_DukGalNamu: you might like gimpshop07:54
TokenBadbut blender never liked me07:54
thechitowncubsSkif: read the wiki07:54
DukGalNamuand most people that work in a graphics arts place are expected to KNOW adobe in and out07:54
cartel_DukGalNamu: that is gimp hacked up to work like adobe07:54
thechitowncubshttp://www.ubuntulinux.org07:54
DukGalNamugimpshop?07:54
DukGalNamuohhh07:54
DukGalNamufree?07:54
tiglionabbitDukGalNamu: actually many places, like Pixar, request that you are able to use traditional media, and want you to NOT be attached to a proprietary graphics program07:54
Skifthechitowncubs: there's a lot of pages on that wiki; can you be more specific, please?07:55
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thechitowncubssearch mplayerinstall07:55
transgresswhat is the kde art program?  it looked pretty nice07:55
thechitowncubsand you're in business07:55
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DukGalNamudidn't know that07:55
HermanDETokenBad, Blender requires a crack pipe and a very large keyboard overlay...  The newest version actually puts point/click menues on the screen....07:55
DukGalNamubut i am talking about in printing. not animation07:55
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cartel_you are actively promoting vendor lockin07:55
DukGalNamui have another question07:55
DukGalNamuopenoffice takes FOREVER to load up, is there anything lighter then that?07:56
nalioth_zZzZzZzZDukGalNamu: abiword07:56
cartel_koffice07:56
cartel_koffice is significantly lighter07:56
jessidsome of you know how can I enable and disable firewall in ubuntu linux?07:56
HermanDEDukGalNamu, koffice07:56
yzeroDukGalNamu: crossover office with microsoft office07:56
rommerwhat file do i change to install php5?07:56
DukGalNamuthats not tied to kde or gnome07:56
HermanDEDukGalNamu, WordPerfect.  (Yes the linux version is still available)07:56
rommerwhat file do i change to install php5 from source07:56
DukGalNamui use fluxbox07:57
nalioth_zZzZzZzZjessid: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13007:57
HermanDEDukGalNamu, lyx07:57
TokenBadanyone know a way to see what accounts are being used in proftpd at a given time?07:57
DukGalNamulyx?07:57
thechitowncubsNo07:57
nalioth_zZzZzZzZDukGalNamu: a text formatter07:57
cartel_yzero: crossover is not faster than OOo07:57
HermanDEyzero, Wow...  He is talking about making things faster...  :)07:57
thechitowncubsThe best lighweight word processor is ABIWORD!07:57
thechitowncubsits great07:57
cartel_vi07:57
thechitowncubssudo apt-get install abiword07:57
cartel_;)07:57
HermanDETokenBad, Check your log file....07:57
Skifthechitowncubs: ah, nice to know I don't need marillat anymore.  Thanks!07:57
DukGalNamuabiword.. what and how, and does it support and write to MW files?07:57
cartel_yes it doe07:58
cartel_s07:58
thechitowncubsSkif: ya, next time give a check on the wiki, it has EVERYTHINg07:58
DukGalNamuits free right?07:58
cartel_of course07:58
nalioth_zZzZzZzZDukGalNamu: 99% of linux software is free07:58
DukGalNamuand light weight07:58
DukGalNamucause openoffice takes like 12 sec to start up07:58
budluva1does ubuntu use apt?07:58
Skifthechitowncubs: Actually, I did; apparently I did not use the right combination to find that page, though.07:58
DukGalNamuyes07:59
DukGalNamuubuntu uses apt07:59
thechitowncubsSkif: no prob, you an also check it by searching TEXT instead of title07:59
thechitowncubsi make that mistake all the time07:59
cartel_DukGalNamu: each session?07:59
DukGalNamucartel_: what do you mean by session?07:59
HermanDEDukGalNamu, 12 seconds..  Geeze.  I have brand new DELL's that take 30 seconds to Launch Office 2003 Pro.. under Windows XP with 512 M Ram....07:59
rommerhow do i change teh configuration when trying to isntall php507:59
cartel_now someone has retooled gimpshop, someone should retool it again with hotbox :)08:00
DukGalNamuHermanDE: well, you did get a dell08:00
DukGalNamuand they only use intel...08:00
cartel_DukGalNamu: does it happen only the first time after a reboot that it is slow and subsequent starts are fast?08:00
budluva1what wm does ubuntu use for the live cd?08:00
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AvFnxwha up08:00
Amaranthrommer: ?08:00
cartel_budluva1: gnome...08:00
HermanDEDukGalNamu, Nope...  Not for me.  I tell people what they need.  Then they get caught up in a Dell marketing spin..08:00
Amaranthrommer: Ubuntu doesn't have PHP508:00
DukGalNamucartel_: all starts are unfortunatly the same08:01
HermanDEAmaranth, Breezy.....08:01
holycowoo 2.0 beta takes 2 seconds to bring up a new window on windows tho, after the initial startup08:01
holycowkinda nifty08:01
AmaranthHermanDE: It's in breezy? *checks*08:01
djsDukGalNamu, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9925 "HOWTO: Speed Up OpenOffice.org Startup"08:01
DukGalNamuHermanDE: dells are whores08:01
holycowi guess some kinda preload is necessary on linux as well08:01
cartel_DukGalNamu: try apt-get install prelink08:01
jessidhow can I stop the firewall?08:01
AvFnxhave any have problem w/ flash in fiirefox08:01
AmaranthHermanDE: Nope, not seeing php5 in breezy.08:01
oofniki just recompiled/reinstalled alsa, can anyone help me with editing modules.conf08:01
budluva1cartel_, cool, i think im going to check it out, have been using debian for awhile, i think its time to check out the ubuntu buzz08:01
HermanDEDukGalNamu, Sure..  The other side is that dells usually need replacing after a few years....08:01
crimsunoofnik: don't touch modules.conf08:01
AmaranthOO.o 2 starts a lot faster08:01
HermanDEDukGalNamu, More money for me...08:02
HermanDEAmaranth, Just a guess.....08:02
SpecialBuddywhere can I download new themes?08:02
crimsunoofnik: and why did you recompile/reinstall ALSA?08:02
DukGalNamuheh08:02
DukGalNamui know08:02
budluva1cartel_, i've been told ubuntu is loosely based on debian, that true?08:02
HermanDESpecialBuddy, themes.freshmeat.net08:02
crimsunbudluva1: it's very strongly based on Debian, heh08:02
holycowbudluva1, loosely?08:02
holycowit pretty much is debian, with some minor exceptions08:02
holycowdebian unstable that is08:02
HermanDEbudluva1, loose?  Debian....  Hmmmmm..  Must check the DFSG....08:03
holycowbig difference from debian stable08:03
oofnikbecause i haven't gotten sound working after 10+ hrs of trying08:03
DukGalNamuit just sucks when people don't learn the lesson the first time08:03
cartel_budluva1: loosely? they share ~50% codebase. "debian is the rock on which ubuntu is built"08:03
oofnikpeople say you know how to do it with an audigy 2..?08:03
budluva1cartel_, ahh, so its debians little brother then? :P08:03
SpecialBuddycool08:03
budluva1hey hey, just going off what ive been told08:03
budluva1i know nothing about ubuntu08:03
vince_holycow, I'm using debian right now but I would have to say ubuntu is my fav08:03
crimsunoofnik: sure. Then again, you didn't have to recompile or reinstall ALSA at all.08:03
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Amaranthbudluva1: Debian is the king and Ubuntu is the prince, heir to the throne ;)08:03
holycowvince_, yeah for the desktop08:03
Amaranthbudluva1: Saw that on a blog or something08:03
cartel_ubuntu doesnt have debian's quality yet08:03
crimsunoofnik: paste the output from amixer onto the pastebin noted in this irc channel's topic08:03
holycowi wouldn't trade in debian on a server for anything08:03
vince_holycow, yea i'm a desktop person too08:04
oofnikhah.. well i think it's too late now.. alright08:04
cartel_and a big plus debian has is the bts08:04
budluva1vince_, ya? i havent found much that makes me want to go away from debian, you say you favor ubuntu over debian?08:04
holycoweventually debian should be a decent desktop too, now that the ubuntu fixes and help are rolled in tho08:04
holycowbrb08:04
HermanDEI have servers running Debian and Ubuntu.  Yes I smoked the secret recepie to install Ubuntu as a server in the first release....08:04
oofnikcrimsun it just says no such device08:04
cartel_no, most ubuntu stuff is halfassed by comparison08:04
crimsunoofnik: ugh, you messed up something08:04
AvFnxubuntu is the best linux distro that i have tried.............it works08:04
cartel_debian will do their own thing and take ubuntu that they can08:04
oofnikbut it hasn't worked at all before to begin with anyway08:05
rommerim trying to install php5 from source but when i do ./configure ... this error comes up You will need flex 2.5.4 if you want to regenerate Zend/PHP lexical parsers.08:05
cartel_ubuntu is an attempt by a few developers to take sid and make it stable08:05
vince_budluva1, well ubuntu is a easy install and configures stuff for you. It's better for newbies because they could spend like 20 hours or more tying to configure debian to work08:05
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HermanDErommer, Have you tried looking for php5 at www.apt-get.org?08:05
crimsunoofnik: be precise: do you mean you couldn't hear anything, or do you mean whenever you tried to play music files the application(s) crashed?08:05
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DukGalNamugotta go guys, talk to ya later08:05
crimsunoofnik: note the stark contrast between the two08:05
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AvFnxcan any help me w/ my flash problem08:05
AmaranthAvFnx: What flash problem?08:06
jbroomekeep your fly closed.  that helped my flash problem08:06
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oofnikneither.. they just can't find the device.. so for example xmms won't play at all08:06
budluva1vince_, yar, my first debian install were kind of hairy, but not too many problems, so ubuntu is based off of debian and is more newbie-ish / desktop-user orientated?08:06
rommerHermanDE: no08:06
HermanDEAvFnx, Uh... What flash problem?08:06
AvFnxwhen i go mlb.com i cant c the score08:06
crimsunjbroome: what, tuxcake flashing you again? ;)08:06
TokenBadok my new render is done..now to think of a title for it08:06
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jbroomecrimsun: i showed tuxcake who was boss08:06
HermanDEAvFnx, Which web browser are you using?08:06
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AvFnxFirefox08:07
yzerocrimsun, You work for ubuntu right?08:07
crimsunyzero: no, I'm a MOTU08:07
vince_budluva1, yep it's great for desktop users! It owns! But i'm sure debian owns in othe areas like server mode08:07
HermanDEAvFnx, Did you follow the prompts to install flash?08:07
yzeroWhat is that?08:07
crimsunyzero: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU08:07
cartel_master of the universe08:07
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AvFnxi have tried installing from apt-get and by firefox08:07
upgrdmani have a weird problem with ubuntu and WAP-enabled wifi... after entering my password in the settings dialogue, and click ok, it takes me back to the network window as normal, but if i click cancel i can use my wifi, if i click ok it breaks it. rebooting always resets it to the broken state... wtf08:07
oofnikcrimsun i would be so grateful if you could help me with my sound.. thank you thank you08:08
HermanDEvince_, Ub is pretty good on the server side...  It gets a bit hairy when trying to connect things...  But much better than RH908:08
yzeroah08:08
vince_HermanDE, I heard horror stories about RH9 hehe08:08
crimsunoofnik: how much work have you invested in your new ubuntu install?08:08
yzerocrimsun so you wouldn't have any idea on "grub hd error" on a reboot after install?08:08
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crimsunoofnik: it seriously may be easier to simply reinstall (clean, not upgrade) Hoary if you recently installed it and have not customized much.08:09
HermanDEvince_, I have attempted to run a good chunk of the major distros as a server..08:09
yzerooofnick theres an audigy 2 thread on the forums that is stickied.08:09
oofnikwell.. everything else is up and running properly.. i'd really hate to do a reinstall but i guess if i absolutely had to i would08:09
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oofniki know, i read through it three times and i still can't get anything08:09
yzeroo.08:09
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HermanDEvince_, The only one that keeps honest and solid has been Debian.  And that is after 8 years of setting up Linuxen servers.....08:09
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Razor-Xanyone here use a Das keyboard?08:09
crimsunyzero: I'm not a GRUB guru, but what error is it?08:09
oofnikalright.. so say i do that.. is it a lot of work to start from scratch to get audigy 2 working?08:09
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yzerocrimsun, "Grub HD error" or "Grub HD install error"08:10
crimsunoofnik: no. At most, you'll need to compile alsa-source from Hoary's universe.08:10
yzerocrimsun, i had to fdisk /mbr to get back into windows08:10
yzerocrimsun, Qosmio f10 toshiba laptop.08:10
sciboyHi, debian user here, unfortunately i installed some X related ubuntu packages and i was wondering whether you could tell me what the 'run_parts' command is and where i could obtain it?08:10
crimsunoofnik: if you can reinstall Hoary quickly, I can walk you through the process.08:10
Coricallolo08:10
albackeryzero you could youse cfdisk without formatin anything and you could go back to windows.08:10
albackeryzero, you could set the windows part. to boot08:11
yzeroi didn't format..08:11
AvFnxHermanDE, i have tried installing flash from apt-get and from firefox08:11
vince_HermanDE, cool i'll keep that in mind when I decide to set up my server. But for now i'm just on desktop and ubuntu is my fav. I've tried the top distros like mandrake, suse , slackware ( not bad to be honest ) . But ubuntu takes the cake08:11
albackeryzero, ah ok..08:11
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oofnikwell it will take me more than an hour, so i don't think that would work tonight..08:11
yzeroits still on my HD now.. just no grub08:11
yzeroMaybe I can make a debian boot floppy to get in08:11
oofnikwhat would be your first move on a clean install, just out of curiousity?08:11
HermanDEAvFnx, It could be that MLB is using some strange extension....I'm going to go there  Hold one...08:11
albackeryzero so you cant boot in linux and in windows ?08:11
crimsunoofnik: ok, then we'll try salvaging what you did. The first thing to do is: cat /proc/asound/version08:11
yzeroGrub won't setup properly08:12
yzerowhen i install ubuntu08:12
HermanDEAvFnx, Are you using a macintosh?08:12
oofnikit says 1.0.608:12
albackeryzero i would suggest to get a livecd.. and enter and modify..08:12
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yzeroI'm off the coast of thailand on a rig08:12
yzeroI don't have any cds =[08:12
FirstiHello08:12
AvFnxHermanDE, no ubuntu08:13
yzeroand i'm not leaving for awhile heh08:13
HermanDEyzero, Try damn small linux..  It is 50Mb.  And better yet...   It is DEBIAN......08:13
cartel_its sorta debian08:13
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HermanDEAvFnx, I'm talking about the maker of your computer....Not the OS...08:13
FirstiWhere I can see all users who are in allow group: sshusers08:13
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oofnikcrimsun what should i do next?08:13
AvFnxHermanDE, it a compaq08:13
yzeroI'm gonna try and get the next rig crew out to get me some blank cds08:14
HermanDEFirsti, /etc/groups08:14
Firstithanks08:14
albackeryzero, :S08:14
robitailleFirsti:  /etc/group08:14
vince_Well nite all , time to sleep08:14
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AvFnxHermanDE, i got say thank you for your time08:14
unimatrix9hi there08:14
crimsunoofnik: ok, now: lsmod|grep ^emu10k108:14
HermanDEAvFnx, There are a two major versions of flash in the apt-get repository.  One is the official and the other is a GPL'd version....  Get the official version.....08:14
yzerotil then i'll use XP08:14
yzerofuck it08:15
AvFnxHermanDE, yea the official08:15
oofnikcrimsun: done, no output08:15
unimatrix9i have a few machines with ubuntu installs, but the software is really limited, how can i expand it?08:15
HermanDEAvFnx, Did you restart your browser?08:15
yzerothanks for your help all.. i'll be back onec I get a blank cd.08:15
crimsunoofnik: good. Now: which amixer08:15
albackeryzero, you could use winxp boot manager to go to windows.08:15
yzeroWhat do you mean.. I'm in windows now08:16
vince_unimatrix9, you can always compile :)08:16
HermanDEunimatrix9, How is it limited?08:16
AvFnxHermanDE, yea08:16
albackeryzero, all you have to do is get some help and some tutorials about windooze boot manager.08:16
oofnikcrimsun: /usr/bin/amixer08:16
yzeroalbacker you mean i can use the windows boot manager to boot ubuntu?08:16
HermanDEAvFnx, Wow.....  Uh.  What does about:plugins show?08:16
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albackeryzero yeah i think you can.08:16
vince_yzero, yes08:16
unimatrix9the repositories ...08:16
yzeroOh08:16
yzerok08:17
gpdme shudders08:17
yzeroAnyone have a link?08:17
vince_yzero, hmm no sorry I wish I did :(08:17
albackeryzero just search a bit in google :D and youll have your ubuntu back08:17
unimatrix9for example if i wanted to install mplayer08:17
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HermanDEunimatrix9, There are about 15000 packages available....  And that is just from Debian Stable.....08:17
crimsunoofnik: executing amixer should return a bunch of output (don't paste it here)08:17
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AvFnxHermanDE, it show like i have it08:17
unimatrix9hmm, but they say that breaks ubuntu?08:18
FirstiHow I can add some user to some group?08:18
unimatrix9thats not the case then?08:18
specialbuddydoes anyone know how to get that wizard up that starts at the beginning of kde08:18
crimsunFirsti: adduser $user $group08:18
FirstiExample "user1" to "group1" ?08:18
crimsunFirsti: man adduser08:18
oofnikcrimsun: it should, but it doesn't... Mixer attach default error: No such device... that's all it says08:18
FirstiAh okay08:18
vince_unimatrix9, have you tried adding more sources? ----> www.ubuntuguide.org08:18
AvFnxHermanDE, u didnt have the same problem08:18
FirstiTahnks08:18
HermanDEAvFnx, Well....  I'm not too sure what to say....08:18
unimatrix9no, but thats the answer i needed i guess08:18
HermanDEAvFnx, I don't like flash or shockwave to begin with....08:18
crimsunoofnik: cat /proc/asound/cards08:18
AvFnxHermanDE, oh08:18
vince_unimatrix9, :)08:19
HermanDEunimatrix9, What are you looking for?08:19
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oofnikcrimsun: --- no soundcards --- uh oh that can't be good08:19
AvFnxHermanDE, is the a software like dvdshrik in linux08:19
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HermanDEAvFnx, I usually have problems when both the GPL'd and the offical version is installed.....08:19
crimsunoofnik: lsmod|grep ^snd_emu10k108:19
HermanDEAvFnx, What does DVDShark do?08:20
yzerohey that snot a bad idea.. I could insall the GAG bootloader.08:20
oofnikcrimsun: snd_emu10k1            81668  008:20
unimatrix9installing multi media apps, like mplayer (DVD playback) beep (with lame) etc08:20
specialbuddydoe anyone know how to change between windows settings and mac, unix etc.08:20
unimatrix9the works08:20
AvFnxHermanDE, it make a back copy of dvd08:20
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albackeryzero what is the GAG bootloader ?08:20
HermanDEunimatrix9, Sure...  It is available.....08:20
crimsunoofnik: give me the lspci -v line for your audigy208:20
yzeroalbacker You can put it on a floppy and just boot off it.. install it08:20
yzeroalbacker it will detect all the partitions08:20
AvFnxHermanDE, it make perfect copy of dvd08:21
albackeryzero that is better.08:21
yzeroim gonna try it08:21
HermanDEAvFnx, All versions of UNIX have a tool that can make a bit by bit copy of a DVD....08:21
FirstiNow "user1" is allowed to go anywhere he wants in my server, I want to he is allower to only his folder: /home/user1/ and he is NOT allowed to go example /home/ or / or something, What I should do?08:21
HermanDEAvFnx, It is called dd08:21
albackerand after bootin to ubuntu you can get grub installed. or lilo08:21
albackeri like grub :D08:21
oofnikcrimsun: 0000:02:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 000808:21
cartel_HermanDE: have you actually tried dding a dvd or are you just talking out your ass?08:21
HermanDEFirsti, Setup a jail....08:21
crimsunoofnik: ok, paste the entire section (for just your audigy2) from lspci -v to #flood08:22
AvFnxHermanDE, the only reason i use windows is cause that software08:22
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HermanDEcartel_, Yes....  and NO.....  I have dd a dvd..   :)08:22
oofnikcrimsun: done08:22
HermanDEcrimsun, It just sounds good to say that even UNIX can do bit copies of just about anything......08:23
albackerok to everyone bye08:23
HermanDEAvFnx, Ok...  Are you trying to RIP or COPY a DVD?08:23
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crimsunHermanDE: did you mean to address that to cartel_ instead?08:24
AvFnxHermanDE, copy08:24
HermanDEcrimsun, Yep..  Getting a little loose on the tab comp....08:24
FirstiWhat JAil08:24
HermanDEAvFnx, Doing a proper copy of a DVD and putting it back on a DVD is a complex process.08:25
HermanDEAvFnx, The common solution is to RIP the video and place it on a DVD in a more portable format.08:25
oofnikcrimson: did you see it?08:25
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crimsunoofnik: yes, and I'm cross-referencing something08:26
unimatrix9i looked at the sources list08:26
crimsunoofnik: offhand, do you know the precise model # of your card?08:26
AvFnxHermanDE, for now......that one the thing linux missing..... windows xp till recently got copple good software08:27
HermanDEunimatrix9, What did you see in the sources list?08:27
unimatrix9so if i activate  "universe"i get acces to all tje goodies?08:27
oofnikcrimsun: well, the install disc says audigy 2 value08:27
AvFnxHermanDE, i guess i going have to wait08:27
oofniki'm pretty sure it's the one with the hardware chipset08:27
HermanDEAvFnx, It is not missing....  It just requires a bit of reading.08:27
unimatrix9deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe08:27
unimatrix9deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe08:27
unimatrix9these?08:28
ale_Did ubuntu-dev remove the sun-java-sdk?08:28
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HermanDEunimatrix9, Just another section of stuff..  Then you have multiverse08:28
AvFnxHermanDE, only need gui most that i tried08:28
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HermanDEAvFnx, If you learn the command line, you will have access to just about anything you could imagine.....08:28
unimatrix9where do i find multiuniverse? :P08:28
crimsunoofnik: interesting, because the audigy2 values can be vastly different from audigy2s08:28
unimatrix9a    i see08:29
HermanDEunimatrix9, I'm not too sure about the multi-universe.  Must be a string theory thing....08:29
AvFnxHermanDE, i been using linux 2 years, it was hard @ 1st but it my main os now08:29
unimatrix9deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse08:29
unimatrix9there it is08:29
maruchananyone use mame08:29
HermanDEunimatrix9, but multiverse is just another archive....08:29
oofnikcrimsun: yeah, i read a bit about that.. the later being software controlled or something, like a winmodem of sorts08:29
AvFnxHermanDE, i got say cause ppl like ur self08:29
unimatrix9you where making a joke, but its really there, right?08:29
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crimsunoofnik: ok, the next thing you need to do is: sudo apt-get --reinstall install alsa-base libasound208:30
HermanDEunimatrix9, Yep.....08:30
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oofnikyeah, alright08:30
unimatrix9okey , i have got the hang if it now..08:30
yzerodoh it didn't work =[08:30
crimsunoofnik: also, sudo apt-get --reinstall install alsa-utils08:30
HermanDEyzero, Where are you now?08:30
unimatrix9thanx for  the input sofar...08:30
yzeroHermanDE, I tried the GAG bootloader08:30
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HermanDEunimatrix9, check out www.apt-get.org and the docs for ubuntu for more apt-get sources...08:31
AvFnxHermanDE, ima go sleep thank you for ur time08:31
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maruchandoes anyone know how to get a gamepad working in mame08:31
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HermanDEyzero, Well, what happened?08:31
oofnikcrimsun: done and done08:32
HrdwrBoBmaruchan: depends on the gamepad08:32
HrdwrBoBmaruchan: read the mame doco08:32
yzeroHermanDE, Something about no sector or invalid sector on the linux partition08:32
ka6soxcan anyone tell me if the AMD64 distro is 64/32 bit libraries or just 64bit?08:32
HermanDEyzero, I'll bet that grub did not setup properly......08:32
unimatrix9ok08:32
yzeroGrub is gone out of the mbr08:32
yzeroIts just a normal windows mbr now.. then i installed gag08:32
yzerodidn't work.. so i removed it08:33
HermanDEyzero,  you need to gain access to the partition and have grub reinstall08:33
yzeroback to windows mbr08:33
unimatrix9bye, and thanx08:33
crimsunoofnik: ok, the next thing you're going to try is to compile alsa-source from universe.08:33
HermanDEyzero, reboot with the cd.  Once the system boots, switch to a different console.....08:33
yzerogrrr I need a blank cd =[08:33
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yzeroHermanDE I did try that.. and /dev/hda isn't there08:33
HermanDEyzero, Then attempt to mount the hard drive...08:33
yzeroso i couldn't mount08:33
crimsunoofnik: so: sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) alsa-source08:33
HermanDEyzero, It may not be under /dev/hda it may be under /dev/sda08:33
yzerooh.08:34
yzeroIt is a laptop..;08:34
yzerois that possible to have sata?08:34
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yzerodevice manger says its Ultra ATA in windows08:34
HermanDEyzero, Yes.....  And that could be the reason that grub went for lunch in Tokyo.....08:34
yzerohaha.08:34
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yzerook let me try.08:35
yzerobrb08:35
oofnikcrimsun: alright, it's doing its stuff08:35
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thechitowncubsWhy is the menu structure for gnome so complicated?08:35
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thechitowncubsit should be based off an xml file or something simple in ONE place08:35
thechitowncubsnot .desktop files scattered over god knows where08:36
thechitowncubsand it should be modifiable by a right clean08:36
thechitowncubsclick08:36
crimsunheh. Look in /usr/share/applications/*.desktop08:36
ummsata sata II sata III ..... steal from SCSI step by syep08:36
oofnikcrimsun: okay, it finished08:36
glDaherI've added an invisible panel to my gnome... and it is giving an error message, I can't see it to remove it, how do I get to the config file for that?08:36
HrdwrBoBumm: and make it affordable.08:36
crimsunoofnik: all right, now: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source08:37
ummfrom 10 years old scsi08:37
crimsunoofnik: choose "no" to PnP, "yes" to debugging, and choose the emu10k1 driver08:37
thechitowncubsIs there any reason for the menu to be so damn complicated?08:38
thechitowncubshasn't there been discussion about it?08:38
glDaheralso I wanna add an entry to the gnome application menu08:38
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oofnikcrimsun: neat.. okay done08:38
HermanDEthechitowncubs, Yes...  The menu discussion is about 6 years old.....08:38
yzeroHermanDE =[ no sda and I did dmesg >crap then cat crap | more.. no sign of my HD =[08:38
thechitowncubsHermanDE: and who came to the conclusion that .desktop files were the way to go?08:39
crimsunoofnik: now: cd /usr/src && sudo tar jfx alsa-driver.tar.bz2 && cd modules/alsa-driver && sudo debian/rules binary_modules KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) KVERS=$(uname -r)08:39
HermanDEthechitowncubs, Then Debian decided to utilize a new application called menu.08:39
yzeromenu is great.08:39
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yzeroStupid new fancy laptops08:40
yzeroI shouldn't have got one this nice08:40
HermanDEthechitowncubs, it was a decision of GNOME not the distro providers...... That is why just about every debian based system uses menu08:40
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Tacanyone know when the next shipment goes out?08:40
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thechitowncubsHermanDE: does ubuntu use menu?08:40
HermanDEyzero, you many have to load a module from the cd.08:40
HermanDEthechitowncubs, it is debian based.....08:40
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thechitowncubsHermanDE: what exactly does "menu" do?08:41
yzeroHermanDE I'm thinking I'll reinstall again.. and right after the grub-install.. i will alt-f2.08:41
yzeroand look at menu.lst08:41
HermanDEyzero, Probably the best thing....08:41
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kakaltohas anyone else had issues when trying to apply a background image for grub, with an nvidia carD?08:41
kakalto*card08:41
HermanDEthechitowncubs, It provides a system for syncronizing all window managers......08:41
oofnikcrimsun: was that supposed to produce any output? and be <1 sec?08:41
crimsunoofnik: did you follow my syntax precisely?08:42
HermanDEthechitowncubs, Such that you can modify a menu under KDE and see the change under GNOME or blackbox.08:42
thechitowncubsCool, well there needs to be some serious thinking about the crappy system. It seems so complicated, and it seems to be such a simple concept.08:42
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HermanDEthechitowncubs, Uh...  Like I said.  For the most part it is solved...  Where have you been?08:43
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oofnikcrimsun: i did this time :-P08:43
crimsunoofnik: ...and?08:43
oofniknow it's compiling08:43
crimsunok.08:43
thechitowncubsHermanDE: doesn't seemed solved from a GUI standpoint, there shouldn't be a need for an application like smeg (even though its great) if you could just right clean and add stuff...08:43
thechitowncubswhy do i keep typing clean instead of click08:44
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oofnikcrimsun do you work for ubuntu or something?08:44
oofnikyou really know your stuff here it seems08:44
HermanDEthechitowncubs, Because each window manager development team thinks that their system is much better than someone else....08:45
thechitowncubsHermanDE: well gnome's sucks :P08:45
thechitowncubslol08:45
thechitowncubsand i'm fed up08:45
thechitowncubsand thats why i'm blowing a gasket08:45
HermanDEthechitowncubs, This is why a compiled version of KDE or GNOME has a large amount of this cruft.....08:45
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Nicthechitowncubs, at least it better than kde :D08:45
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HermanDEthechitowncubs, and why a proper distro will smooth the edges......08:45
budluvadid i miss something somewhere or does the live cd not create a new user when installing?08:45
yzerokde is a pile of junk :P08:45
jeldhello all08:46
thechitowncubsKDE is a fisher price toy08:46
Niclol yeah08:46
Nicso is winblows08:46
hardcampa-KDE makes even linux look like teletubby land08:46
HermanDEY'll stink.  XTERM rules.....08:46
thechitowncubswindblows08:46
thechitowncubsLOL08:46
thechitowncubsteletubby land08:46
thechitowncubshahhaa08:46
jeldquestion about sound cards, how do I can force one of my cards to be the first08:46
thechitowncubsLMAO08:46
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crimsunjeld: cat /proc/asound/modules08:47
oofnikokay crimsun it's all done08:47
jeld0 snd_usb_audio08:47
jeld1 snd_emu10k108:47
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HermanDEjeld, I think you can assign card numbers by the pci code....08:47
crimsunjeld: and you want the sblive/audigy to be primary?08:47
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cyphasehey everyone08:48
thechitowncubshey whats up08:48
jeldcrimsun, I wanna try to see if my audigy will work08:48
crimsunjeld: echo "options snd-usb-audio index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base08:48
budluvacan someone help me with a live cd question? why does it not ask me to create a new user? just uses a default user 'ubuntu' and when i su - wtf is root pw??? it didnt ask me to set any08:48
crimsunoofnik: ls ../*.deb08:48
jbroomebudluva: use sudo08:49
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cory_can i ask somebody a question =)?08:49
oofnik../alsa-modules-2.6.10-5-386_1.0.8-4ubuntu4_i386.deb08:49
thechitowncubscory: ok08:49
cory_gracias08:49
crimsunoofnik: sudo dpkg -i ../*.deb08:49
HermanDEcory_, Only if you don't pull down your pants...08:50
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thechitowncubscory: i think you need to be in #ubuntu-es ;-)08:50
oofnikcrimsun.. i heard my speakers thump...08:50
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cory_okay i'm trying to copy some dlls to my wine system folder.  but it says i can't because i don't have permissions.  The only user that does is root.  can i change it to where i can add dlls to that folder?08:50
oofnikALSAMIXER LOADS!! YES!!08:50
thechitowncubscory: what are you trying to use wine for?08:51
cory_kazaa08:51
thechitowncubsLOL08:51
HermanDEcory_, AAAKKK  Are you running wine as root?08:51
crimsunoofnik: now paste the output from amixer onto pastebin08:51
thechitowncubsi solved the problem08:51
cory_no08:51
cory_wait08:51
cory_i'm running it under my user name08:51
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thechitowncubscory: don't ever use kazaa08:51
glDaherhow do I reconfigure the gnome panel back to its defaults?08:51
cory_mldonkey sux08:51
cory_i can't find anything that actually works08:51
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thechitowncubscory: i suggest you use some alternatives like (giftui, gtk-gnutella, limewire)08:52
glDaherapt-get reconfigure gnome-panel ?08:52
HermanDEcory_, Have you tried LimeWire?08:52
watjewatje@dionyxus:~ $ glxgears08:52
watjeSegmentation fault08:52
watje;x08:52
cory_yeah, in the past08:52
cory_have any of ya'll ever used ares?08:52
thechitowncubsi just tried giftui and i was very impressed08:52
cory_for windows08:52
thechitowncubscory: yes08:52
cory_whats the closest thing to that for linux?08:52
thechitowncubscory: giftui08:52
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thechitowncubsand the gift daemon08:52
cory_because ares was the best p2p i've ever used08:52
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thechitowncubshttp://giftd.sf.net08:53
oofnikwow that's a lot of stuff08:53
ummwarez?08:53
crimsunoofnik: url?08:53
thechitowncubshttp://gift.sf.net08:53
cory_ok thx, i'm going to give that a try08:53
umm(virus...)08:53
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cory_just for the sake of knowing.  Is there a way to change the permissions?08:54
thechitowncubscory: that requires just a little configuring at first, but once you get that workin then its golden08:54
thechitowncubschmod08:54
oofnikhere you go crimsun: http://pastebin.com/30283608:54
thechitowncubscory: if you don't want to deal with configuring crap use this : sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella08:54
cory_would i have to run a root terminial to do that?08:54
thechitowncubsno08:55
thechitowncubssudo means run as root08:55
crimsunoofnik: amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on08:55
beperhi08:55
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oofnikbingo08:56
oofnikit's playing08:56
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oofnikcrimsun i don't know how to thank you08:56
crimsunno worries.08:56
toinouhello I would like that apache run my PHP pages which aren't in /var/www/ but in my /var/lib/cvs/www/ , how must I do  ?08:56
oofnikwill these settings stay put on reboot?08:56
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crimsunoofnik: yep, presuming you reboot/shut down normally08:56
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cory_wow, okay i kind of like gtk-gnutella08:57
SpecialBuddyhow do I set it up to double click like windows08:57
SpecialBuddy?08:57
SpecialBuddydoes anyone know08:57
cartel_cory: try apollon08:57
cartel_:)08:57
oofnikokay.. wow.. so basically all i did was just rebuild alsa from source and install it the right way?08:58
thechitowncubscory: ya, its ok, the GUI is a little sloppy08:58
thechitowncubsbut it works pretty good08:58
crimsunoofnik: that, and you unmuted a critical mixer element08:58
oofnikyeah, that's what i had to do when i had fedora08:59
oofniki remember that part08:59
sknroiws:o08:59
sknroiwsIts broken08:59
sknroiwsI tried to install ubuntu09:00
sknroiwsAnd it broke09:00
sknroiwsIt said it couldnt install some packages09:00
sknroiwsAnd then I booted up09:00
sknroiwsAnd the x server doesn work09:00
sknroiwsHow do I resinstall the x server?09:00
oofnikhaha.. now if i ever have to reinstall ubuntu, i'll have to somehow do that again.. unless it works out of the box in the next release! thank you again crimsun!09:00
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cory_whats apollon?09:00
crimsunoofnik: it'll work out of the box in the next release, breezy09:00
oofnikhow's breezy coming along?09:01
cartel_cory_: kde fileshare app09:01
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cory_oh ok09:01
crimsunoofnik: fairly well considering there have been invasive toolchain updates09:01
sknroiwsWhat is the x server called?09:01
cartel_XOrg09:01
cory_one prob with gtk-gnutella is...my download is stopped at 1%.  I thought maybe i just found something that was going to work for me :'(09:01
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cartel_crimsun: how big is canonical's buildd?09:01
thechitowncubscory: its a gui bug09:02
thechitowncubsthe gui is sloppy09:02
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crimsuncartel_: there are at least 3 buildds for each arch09:02
thechitowncubscory: look at the other tabs09:02
oofnikgreat09:02
cartel_crimsun: how long does it take you to regenerate the entire archive?09:02
oofniki'm definitely looking forward to it09:02
crimsuncartel_: a few days is my guess09:02
sknroiwsI think my hard drive is broken09:02
umm?09:03
crimsuncartel_: that is of course precluding any spectacular FTBFSes09:03
sknroiwsIm getting erors like Buffer I/O error on device hdc09:03
mercis there a way to have konsole let me open hyperlinks? (instead of copy&pasting the link into a browser) similar to the way gnome-console does?09:03
ummwhat do you mean "broken"?09:03
sknroiwsand then it says logical block 23479009:03
yzeroI HATE YOU UBUNTU JUST INSTALL GRUB09:03
yzero=[09:03
umm...09:03
umm~_~ oh my ears09:03
cory_so is it really downloading.  Or just stopped?09:04
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sknroiwsDoes that mean my hard drive is messed up?09:04
yzerofuck this i'm throwing this laptop into the ocean right now09:04
yzero3 grand out the window09:04
yzerofuck09:04
sknroiwslol09:04
ummwhat kind of laptop?09:05
sknroiwsHe lef09:05
cory_haha i'm anidiot its finished.  but stopped at 1%09:05
cartel_crimsun: wanna-build should automatically dispatch a paper bag to whatever developer causes a showstopper ftbfs09:05
cartel_:)09:05
ummbadblock command?09:05
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mindspinwhere do I configure a machine to boot without keyboard ?09:08
oofnikwell it's bed time in EST, thank you once again crimsun, see you around09:08
thechitowncubsbed time in CST09:08
thechitowncubs:P09:08
oofnikhaha yeah, there too09:09
mindspinin cet its good morning let's work time ;-)09:09
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oofnikgood night guys09:09
crimsunoofnik: l8r09:10
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cory_hey, what's ya'lls preference on burning software?  gnomebaker seemed rather slow for me.09:11
thechitowncubscory: graveman09:12
thechitowncubssudo apt-get install graveman09:12
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cory_lot better?09:12
thechitowncubsi like it more09:12
atrusSoCAk3b09:13
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cory_awesome09:14
REdsk3b for sure09:14
REdseven though im a gnome person09:14
cory_k3b is that also burning software?09:14
thechitowncubsk3b isn't my cup of tea09:14
REdsye man kicks ass ;p09:14
thechitowncubsgraveman should suit you well09:14
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ummk3b is ugly09:14
ummI  want a free nero for linux09:15
cory_i'm looking for speed, because i mean i have a fricken amd 64 bit processor w/a gig of ram and it took me 45 minutes to convert .mp3s//.ogg files to .cda format the other day09:15
REdshaha09:15
cory_that was rediculous09:15
ummxvid & ogg is good09:16
ummno drm09:16
cory_i like the simplicity of graveman's gui09:16
ummwhat's that?09:17
ummK00l09:17
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jeanre_hi all09:18
topylinautilus for data, serpentine for audio cd's. can't get much simpler :)09:18
jeanre_I have a issue upgrading warty to breezy09:18
topylijeanre_: that's a problem by definition09:18
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DukGalNamuok, so now it takes 10 sec to load openoffice09:18
Nicjeanre_, thats why it hasnt been released09:18
Nicheh heh yeah09:18
jeanre_well09:19
jeanre_can I fix this?09:19
Nicis serpentine in universe?09:19
ummThe Hoary Hedgehog?09:19
jeanre_ conflicting packages - not installing libx11-609:19
jeanre_Errors were encountered while processing:09:19
jeanre_ /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs-data_6.8.2-32_all.deb09:19
jeanre_ /var/cache/apt/archives/libx11-6_1%3a6.2.1+cvs.20050615-3_i386.deb09:19
jeanre_E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)09:19
sknroiws:/09:19
DukGalNamuanyone know how to change text color?09:19
jbroomeno paste09:19
topylijeanre_: upgrade to hoary first. then you might be able to go to breezy09:19
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Niclook on the forum09:19
DukGalNamuin openoffice09:19
jeanre_ok09:19
sknroiwsI think my hard drive is broken09:19
Nicjeanre_, in the top sticky09:19
sknroiwsBut I dont want to install it on my 200GB09:19
Nicof the development forum09:19
DukGalNamusknroiws: you wouldn't be talking here if ti was09:19
Nicit says its a bug09:19
sknroiws..09:20
sknroiwsI have a different compuer09:20
sknroiwscomputer09:20
DukGalNamusknroiws: ohh09:20
DukGalNamusknroiws: :P09:20
ummxpc?09:20
sknroiwsI have a 200GB on there09:20
holycowwell thats fucking weird09:20
holycownautilus cannot browse an ancrypted dvd, yet i can copy at least half the vob files and play them from hd?09:20
sknroiwsBut its full of porn09:20
holycowwtf?09:20
sknroiwsAnd I dont want to delete it09:20
sknroiwsIts my lifes work09:20
topyliheh09:20
ummjust buy a new one09:20
DukGalNamusknroiws: porn breaks computers......09:20
ummor search from trash can09:21
sknroiwsWell my 120GB and my 200GB is full of porn09:21
topylisknroiws: you are one productive porn star. how many movies is that? ;)09:21
sknroiwsI have the os on a 15GB09:21
DukGalNamusknroiws: how big of an hd do you need?09:21
sknroiwsLots09:21
ummsell it and buy a new one09:21
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sknroiwsI just need to install ubuntu on it09:21
sknroiwsMy 15gb doesnt work anymore09:21
DukGalNamuyou can buy up to 80GB with little more then $6009:21
sknroiwsI dont have any money09:22
sknroiwsIm saving up to buy a punching bag09:22
umm$5509:22
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ummor $5009:22
DukGalNamu$52.9109:22
sknroiwsFor my muay that training09:22
sknroiwsmuay thai training *09:22
ummI will wait for $2509:23
sknroiwsUgh09:23
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ummor $3009:23
sknroiwsI guess Ill just delete my 200GB09:23
DukGalNamuwhy.... would you not have $5009:23
sknroiwsI can just download it all again09:23
holycowis it possible to kill an 'uninterruptible' process?09:23
DukGalNamuyeah09:23
sknroiwsFIOS is great :)09:23
DukGalNamuholycow: did you try killing it while root?09:23
holycowwell sudo, not root09:23
DukGalNamuwith kill -9?09:24
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DukGalNamuor just killall09:24
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holycowheh09:25
DukGalNamu?09:25
holycownope just double checked all09:25
holycowits still there09:25
holycowvobcopy (two of them) status: uninterruptable09:25
DukGalNamukill x09:26
holycowheh09:26
DukGalNamuit might work....09:26
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DukGalNamuwhat is afk?09:26
holycowaway from keyboard09:27
DukGalNamuahhh09:27
sknroiws><09:27
sknroiwsAfter I already formatted I found a 40GB09:27
sknroiwsJust laying in my closet09:27
DukGalNamusknroiws: that is the worst...09:27
DukGalNamusknroiws: welll, porn is a bad habit anyways...09:27
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DukGalNamug2g09:28
xerohey guys09:28
DukGalNamucya all09:28
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xerofor some reason when i ssh into my ubuntu machine it doesnt xforward09:29
sknroiwsI only lost 200GB09:29
sknroiwsI still have 120GB09:29
xeroit says something about xauth09:29
xerobut i dont know what i am doing wrong?09:29
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thechitowncubsgut night09:34
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xero:-/09:36
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Seveas'someting about xauth' is a too vague error i'm afraid09:37
jeanre_ok now I have a issue09:37
jeanre_I can not even startx09:37
jeanre_and I can not download another 300mb09:37
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Seveasjeanre_, what happens if you try startx?09:38
jeanre_tells me it can not startx09:38
Seveasyes, but it should give a reason why :)09:38
jeanre_I tried to go from warty to breezy09:38
Seveashmm09:38
brendan_Does anyone know about the World of Warcraft mouse issue or whatever?09:38
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jeanre_there is no X on my system anymore :(09:38
Seveashave you read the topic jeanre_ ?09:38
rommeri tried installing php5 from source but now i cant run any php file from my web browser any ideas?09:39
Seveaswarty 2 breezy is totally unupported too09:39
Seveasand breezy should NOT be used by people eho don't know how to fix things like this...09:39
SeveasSo you're on your own in this...09:39
riffichah, warty to breezy09:39
rifficthats funnt09:39
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Seveasyeah, probably the first one to be THAT stupid :)09:40
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Seveasjeanre_, you should ask before talking in private, it's impolite and not appreciated to just open a private chat09:41
Seveasand no, I cannot help you09:41
SeveasI don't even want to, people who create such a mess against all warnings are beyond help...09:41
jeanre_Seveas: so is your brain dude09:41
jeanre_:)09:41
kestasouch09:42
Seveasjeanre_, look at yourself09:42
mindspinSeveas cool down09:42
gm78Hi. I have an old Warty box that I am thinking of upgrading to Hoary. However, it has a bunch of debs installed that arent part of ubuntu (such as some packages from marillat, some packages ive compiled and installed using checkinstall, etc.). Will these extra debs affect the upgrade process. Also, is there a command to list debs that are installed on the system but are not available from any of the repos listed in your sources.list file?09:42
merchah09:42
bosewichtanyone use nessus with ubuntu?09:42
kestasgm78: if you go into synaptic it has a 'Outdated or system specific packages' tab09:42
Seveasgm78, for the latter part: you can check the locally instaled / obsolete section with synaptic09:42
kestasgm78: which should list it09:43
mindspinbosewicht sometimes09:43
Seveasmarillat might scre up the upgrades a bit, so try disabling it before upgrading09:43
jeanre_Seveas: everyone is not as bright as you09:43
Seveasjeanre_, i'm not saying I'm bright at all..09:43
bosewichti can't get it t work...i think it has to do with sudo but not sure09:43
robitailleSeveas:  in Warty?  I thought that wat just in Hoary's Synaptic (could be wrong...haven't touched Warty in a while...)09:43
Seveasrobitaille, you're right09:43
kestasbosewicht: if you cant get it to work then you probably shouldnt be installing it09:43
mindspinI can't get it to work is very vague09:44
Seveaswell, use aptitude then :)09:44
kestasI got it to work09:44
kestasthe only thing which is unusual is that you have to install it with apt-get, as it needs you to enter some things as it installs09:44
bosewichthmm, i think i should install it, but the plugins aren't showing up and after i launch it it's just not connecting09:44
kestasor use the terminal thing in synaptic09:44
gm78kestas and all : thank you guys, you showed me what i was looking for :)09:45
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mindspinyou know , you need a server runing?09:45
kestasbosewicht: I think the plugins are a seperate install thing09:45
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VjazHi y'all.09:45
SeveasHi09:45
kestasbosewicht: and you need to add a user I seem to remember09:45
mindspinyep09:45
kestasbosewicht: and you need to start it up09:45
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mindspinthats what I meant09:45
mindspinnessusd09:46
VjazAnyone know where I could find instructions in compiling a kernel for Ubuntu? I would really like something that describes how to duplicate a stock Ubuntu kernel, really.09:46
bosewichti installed the plugins...i have it running fine on my other box, but the ubuntu laptop is giving me problems...i thought maybe other people might be having probs too...i'll take a closer look at it09:46
VjazEspecially the initrd-part.09:46
xerodoes anybody know about the xauth???09:46
SeveasVjaz, there is a kernelcompilehowto on the ubuntu wiki09:46
robitailleVjaz:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto09:46
Seveasin short: apt-get install linux-source-1.6.10-5 kernel-package09:47
Seveasand use make-kpkg to so all the magic09:47
Seveasdi*09:47
Seveasdo*09:47
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VjazThanks.09:48
VjazI won't be compiling a Ubuntu kernel though because I need 2.6.12. (Which makes it silly that I asked how to duplicate stock Ubuntu, but oh well...)09:48
rommerhas anyone successfully installed php5 from source?09:49
SeveasVjaz, try an Ubuntu 2.6.12 kernel from Breezy :)09:49
VjazSeveas, They only have 2.6.11, don't they?09:49
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Seveasrommer, there are 2 separate howtos on the wiki. I guess that the authors of those pages had success09:49
|iggy|hi09:49
SeveasVjaz, 2.6.12 will kick in soon09:49
Vjazsoon... I need it NOW! ;-)09:50
Seveas:D09:50
|iggy|i had installed a new mainboard with another chipset is there any solution to re-run the hardware check / find09:51
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rommerhmm yea09:51
robitailleVjaz:  I think 2.6.12 is already available in Breezy (http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/)09:51
VjazAh, that's nice.09:53
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VjazI wonder if I can pop in a breezy image...09:55
VjazI guess it might work, but then again it might not. We'll see.09:55
cthulfuegoOh the joys of VPN through public wifi at one's favourite bistro...09:59
SeveasVjaz, there are some hotplug problems with 2.6.12...10:00
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VjazSeveas, Damn.10:03
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jessidhow do I start power control daemon?10:05
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Jesse1jessid, wats the package for that called?10:07
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Yuki-Sananyone know if the ubuntu servers work well, i wanna set one up10:12
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Jesse1Yuki-San,  im like hte only one here and ive never created a ubuntu server10:14
cazabamgood morning, everyone10:14
Jesse1cazabam, where you live?10:15
cazabamEngland :)10:15
Yuki-SanJesse1, i'm a rahter noob with linux, what distro would you reccomend for a server?10:15
Jesse1ah thats along way from australia10:15
cazabamyep10:15
cazabamdoes anyone know about sound on Thinkpads? specifically recording from linein?10:16
cazabamWhen I plug my stereo into line-in, I hear the sound through the speakers but nothing can record it10:16
Jesse1Yuki-San, i dont know much about the ubuntu server but you might want to check out this part of the forum http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=4510:17
mindspinYuki what do you want to do with the server?10:17
mindspinlinux noob and linux server sounds dangerous10:17
Yuki-Sani need to host my scanlation groups website10:17
Yuki-Sanand scanlated manga10:17
Yuki-Sanmindspin, i have no choice...10:18
mindspinits a public machine?10:18
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Yuki-Sani'm not that much of a noob i've used fedora for almost a year10:18
marshAnyone know how to restart a bittorrent - I had an image downloading with firefox & ran out of electric & now I cant find out how to restart it :(... I've checked the FAQ & WIKI, but cant find anything about restarting torrents. Gnome torrent asks me to point at the meta file, I can only find the half downloaded file & presume it is meta, but it wont continue the download... anyone know why?10:18
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Yuki-Sanbut im not an expert10:18
mindspinthen I would recommend debian sarge10:18
mindspinGUI on a public server seems not clever to me10:19
Jesse1yea anyone could easly change stuff10:19
mindspinbut I see no problem installing ubuntu server10:19
Yuki-Sanis it hard...10:19
mindspinno,10:19
mindspinnot that10:19
Yuki-Sancan some send me a link to the howto for this10:20
mindspinyou could use mc as filemanager and editor10:20
mindspinits kinda eaysier than using bash and vi/jeoe/whatever10:20
mindspinbut you sure want a database running10:21
Yuki-Sangrahh, i can't find the link in the howtos, on how to set up a server10:22
mindspinso its not a question of how linux, but more how running a LAMP system10:22
berkesYuki-San: its on the ubuntu CD10:22
berkesjust use the option "base"10:22
Yuki-Saneh?10:22
Jesse1Yuki-San, also what internet connection will the server use?10:22
Yuki-Sanit's gives you he option?10:22
mindspinjust choose options server or so... dunno10:22
berkesYuki-San: eys10:22
Yuki-Sani have roadrunner10:22
Jesse1?10:22
Yuki-Sanit's father then comcast10:22
Yuki-Sanit's cable10:22
mindspinyou want to run it from home?10:23
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Yuki-Sanyeh...10:23
mindspinbe careful10:23
Yuki-Sanmindspin, where else?10:23
mindspinin a datacenter10:23
Yuki-Sanexplain...10:23
mindspinjust get you a standalone server or a root server10:23
mindspinrent it10:24
Yuki-Sanno money...10:24
mindspinhaha10:24
mindspinthats bad10:24
Yuki-Sanberkes, will it give me an option to pick if i want to set it up as a server?10:24
mindspinso be careful10:24
Yuki-Sanmindspin, ok10:24
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Jesse1Yuki-San, yes thats my problem no $$ for a server the geocities has been enough for me so far10:24
berkesYuki-San: yes10:25
berkesits called "base"10:25
mindspinyou can get it for about 20  here in germany10:25
Yuki-SanJesse1, geocities = no mysql10:25
Jesse1Yuki-San, yes thats a bummer10:25
mindspinif you share it with some friends, thats not expensive10:25
berkesYuki-San: but a VPS is very cheap now adays10:25
Yuki-Sanmindspin, i have no friends -_-;10:25
Yuki-San;p;10:25
Yuki-Sanj/k10:25
Jesse1mindspin, in australia im expecting that to be expensive10:25
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berkesfor approx ?20/month you have your own server10:26
berkeswith root access and all10:26
mindspinyes10:26
berkesyou cannot beat that with your own server :)10:26
mindspin20 is the lowest fare I#ve seen10:26
Yuki-Sani live in texas, they didn't get computers here until 200410:26
Yuki-San...10:26
Yuki-Sani did, but most of the poeple didn't10:26
Jesse1Yuki-San, dang....10:27
berkesmindspin: i have a cuople of acoutns for only ?14/month10:27
Yuki-Sanif anyone here is from US they will know10:27
mindspinthats pretty good10:27
Yuki-Sanit's called orange, tx it has a population of 2,00010:27
sknroiws>,10:27
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sknroiwsFor some reason I cant install i386 version10:28
sknroiwsof ubunu10:28
sknroiwsI can install the amd64 version10:28
sulffhi, does someone know where i could get the files to run a server cs:source on ubuntu plz ??10:28
sknroiwsI know10:28
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sknroiwsI use to run a game server company10:28
sknroiwsHmm10:28
sknroiwsLet me remember10:28
sknroiws><10:28
sulfflol10:29
sknroiwsWell first10:29
sulff:p10:29
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sknroiwsYou need the steam file10:29
Jesse1Yuki-San, there is another semi-free service that i use it has mysql its at http://lifelesspeople.com all you do is post in a forum and you get the hosting for free ive had it 2 months its good10:29
sulffok i have it but it dont includes cs:source10:29
sknroiwsYes i does10:29
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sknroiwsYou jus have to know the right commands10:29
orlandohi, ubuntu keeps switching back to default 1600x1200 resolution on startup even though i checked 'Make Default' when i changed to 1024x768. how do I make ubuntu start in 1024x76810:29
sulffis it possible to download it10:29
sulffoki thanks10:29
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nelsonratHow does a Live CD work10:30
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Jesse1live cd works by magic,      it loads everything in to the memory instead of saving it on to the harddisk so if you have 256 mb of ram then you have 256 mb of space for the live cd10:31
Jesse1and if you restart the computer with the live cd the memory is clear and everything goes back to normal10:31
nelsonrathow do i get one to work10:31
Jesse1just put the cd in the computer and restart10:31
topylinelsonrat: stick it in, reboot10:32
nelsonrati did it 2 times now10:32
nelsonratit did not work10:32
Jesse1and what happend those 2 times10:32
sknroiwssulff: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=14834c5fdbe4ac9a08fd3e73196734ed&threadid=29249510:32
topylinelsonrat: ah, you have to change the boot sequence in your computer's BIOS10:33
nelsonratIt said compaq IN RED THEN wINDOWS XP10:33
sknroiwsOn my computer I can press f810:33
Jesse1nelsonrat, make sure when changing it to make the cd first, floppy second, harddrive 3rd10:33
sknroiwsAnd i allows me to select the device to boot10:34
topylinice touch10:34
Jesse1sknroiws, most computers that will boot windows in safe mode10:34
sknroiws:/10:34
sknroiwsI guess mine is special10:34
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Jesse1must be10:35
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sknroiwsThe i386 version of ubuntu is broken on my computer It will only let me install AMD64 version now10:35
Jesse1sknroiws, .... do yuo have a amd 64 processor?10:36
sknroiwsYes10:36
sknroiwsBut setting stuff up in the amd64 version is harder10:36
sknroiwsMost of the stuff on ubuntuguide.org doesnt work with it10:37
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Jesse1sknroiws, what doesnt work most of it should10:37
sknroiwsAll the installing applications stuff10:37
Jesse1sknroiws, did u add the extra repositores list10:37
sulffskrnoiws thanks for the link10:37
sknroiwsYes10:37
sknroiwsWhat kind of internet connection do you have sulff10:38
sknroiwsIt takes a pretty good connection to run a decent server.10:38
Jesse1the apt-get command should work in all versions of ubuntu10:38
sknroiwsIt doesnt find the packages10:38
sknroiwsI even had a guy send me his sources.list file10:38
sknroiwsAnd I put it in10:39
Jesse1....10:39
sknroiwsAnd It still didnt find it10:39
Jesse1did u try apt-get update10:39
Jesse1first10:39
Jesse1then try apt-get package10:39
sknroiwsYes10:39
Jesse1tryed the synaptic?10:39
sknroiwsNo10:40
sknroiwsJust apt-get10:40
Jesse1well try the synaptic it probably will give you a better error than apt-get will10:40
sulffi have only 256 kbits of upload lol10:40
sknroiws><10:40
sknroiwsYou need better upload10:40
Jesse1sluff if more that 3 people connect there will die10:40
sulff:/10:40
sulfflol10:41
sknroiwsI have 2mbit upload10:41
sulffok10:41
Jesse1ive got 64 :P i win10:41
sulff:s in france uploads sucks10:41
sknroiws:o10:41
sulfflol10:41
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sknroiwsWell I use to have 256kbit upload10:41
sknroiwsBut then I got FIOS10:41
sknroiws15mbit down/2mbit up10:42
sulffok10:42
Jesse1sknroiws, thats a nice conncection10:42
sknroiws:p10:42
sulffi have 8 mb / 256 kbits lool10:42
sknroiwsIndeed it is10:42
sknroiwsI only pay $50 a month for it to10:42
Jesse1ive got 256kb / 6410:42
sknroiwsThats sad Jesse110:42
sknroiwsWant to live at my house10:43
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sulff:/10:43
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Jesse1..10:43
Jesse1the interent connections in austrlalia suck10:43
Jesse1and so does my spelling10:43
sknroiwsDamn10:43
orlandohi, ubuntu keeps switching back to default 1600x1200 resolution on startup even though i checked 'Make Default' when i changed to 1024x768. how do I make ubuntu start in 1024x76810:43
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Yuki-Sandoesn anyone here run a ununtu server, so if i run into trouble they can maybe help me ^^10:44
Jesse1thoreauputic, u have dial up?10:45
thoreauputicJesse1: yes10:45
Jesse1thoreauputic, dang i would hate going back to dial up10:45
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SeveasYuki-San, lots of people run Ubuntu as some sort of server10:46
SeveasYuki-San, like all *.ubuntu.com domains :)10:46
Yuki-Sanoh...10:46
thoreauputicit's enough for me most of the time - only the occasional big download is a problem10:46
Yuki-Sanbut are they in here...10:46
SeveasYuki-San, I use it as server too :)10:47
sulffdoes someone know the line command to create a repertorie? lol10:47
Yuki-Sani's gonna be the kubuntu, cuz i can't stand gnome10:47
Jesse1thoreauputic, my 256 is pushing on what i need 3 computer all use the internet at once = :(10:47
SeveasYuki-San, makes no difference for servers :)10:47
thoreauputicYuki-San: you can run a server without any graphical desktop at all (in fact many do)10:48
Jesse1sulff, you hve to edit the source.list file10:48
Jesse1thoreauputic, ..... dang i find it hard enough runnign a server even with the cpanel10:49
sulffok10:49
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nelsonratI can't get my Live CD to work10:50
Jesse1nelsonrat, did you change the boot routine?10:51
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nelsonratYes10:51
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Biffihi all, I have a installation problem10:52
Jesse1nelsonrat, have you got the right live cd?10:52
Bifficlould someone help me?10:52
thoreauputicBiffi: just ask nd if someone can, they will help10:52
topylisulff: you mean to create an local apt repository of your own stuff?10:52
Jesse1Biffi, there are many problems that can happen in the installation saying you have a problem is not enough10:52
Biffibsdutils could not found i think10:53
Yuki-Sanat what point in the install should it ask me if i want to set it up as a server?10:53
Jesse1topyli, i tried doing that i could get it to work10:53
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nelsonrati downloaded from www.ubuntulinux.org10:53
thoreauputicBiffi: tell us at what point the install fails, and what the errors are10:54
Biffipoint : installing basesystem10:54
Jesse1nelsonrat, there are 3 types of live cd's that you could have downloaded10:54
topylisulff: see the apt howto, section 2.2, "how to use apt locally"10:54
Biffierror: it chraches on 6% bsdutils10:54
thoreauputicBiffi: is your CD OK ? Does the md5sum match? Did you burn it yourself?10:55
Biffiyes bern myself10:55
Jesse1make sure the cd has no scratchs and the download isnt corrupted10:55
Jesse1you could try ordering the cd that will make sure that there was no problem with hte download10:56
thoreauputicBiffi: if the ISO isn't corrupted, try burning it at a slower speed (say 4x)10:56
nelsonratI downloaded The IntelX86 liveCD10:56
Biffiokay10:56
SeveasYuki-San, if you want to run both the gui and some services, you should just use the standard install10:56
Biffii will try10:56
Biffithnx10:56
SeveasYuki-San, if you want a machine without GUI, type server as boot option10:57
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Yuki-SanSeveas, i did10:57
thoreauputicBiffi: make sure the md5sum matches10:57
SeveasYuki-San, then you'll just have to install the services you want :D10:57
Biffiokay10:57
Yuki-Sani already installed it and i don't remember it asking me if i want to run it as a server...10:57
Yuki-SanSeveas, or something similar10:58
SeveasYuki-San, you are missing some clue here :)10:58
Yuki-SanSeveas, t ejected the cd and is doing a bunch of stuff now10:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhy would an uninstalled program keep it's settings from the last install?10:58
SeveasThere is no difference between a server machine and a client machine10:58
Yuki-SanSeveas, eha?10:58
Yuki-Sanoh...10:58
Coricalanyone know of something better than  magic draw ?10:58
SeveasThe installed services make a machine a 'web server' or 'mail server10:58
Seveasetc..10:59
Yuki-Santhen why does the fedora install ask you if you want to use it as a server of workstation?10:59
SeveasWell, because fedora sucks :)10:59
Yuki-Sani wnat it to be a web server10:59
Yuki-Sani like fedora ... :/10:59
Yuki-Sanit's been good to me10:59
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: the packageing system respects the config you had: if you want to wipe the config use ' sudo apt-get remove --purge "10:59
mindspinSeveas that means when installing with server options, X etc will be installed too?10:59
SeveasYuki-San, then you'll just have to aptitude install apache2 after the thing has setup the base systen10:59
Seveasmindspin, no, I was talking about the concept of what makes a computer a server...11:00
Yuki-SanSeveas, eh? whats that?11:00
SeveasYuki-San, the command 'aptitude install apache2' will install apache 211:00
Yuki-Sanok...11:00
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Seveasjust like 'aptitude install libapache2-mod-php4' installs php 4 :)11:00
Yuki-Sanis there a howto for this... .>.>;11:00
mindspinYuki-San can you test your server locally or will it be public from the start?11:01
Yuki-San i mean what do i do then?11:01
mindspinI would recommend to test it locally first11:01
Yuki-Sanpublic...11:01
Yuki-Sanok11:01
Yuki-Sanhow do i do all of this?11:01
thoreauputicYuki-San: umm - running a server without doing any research beforehand is probably not a good move11:01
SeveasThen you read through the apache config and notice how wonderful the debian package system and the debian apache framework is :D11:01
mindspinplug a crossover cable to teh machine and another pc11:01
mindspinassuming you have no LAN at home11:02
Yuki-Santhoreauputic, you are right, bt it's to late now11:02
thoreauputicYuki-San: it's never too late to read documentation and howtos11:02
Yuki-SanSeveas, it's pluged into a router, can i check with that?11:02
Yuki-Santhoreauputic, link?11:02
Yuki-Sanplz...11:03
mindspinYuki-San do you have a static IP?11:03
Yuki-San:D11:03
Yuki-Sanyes11:03
mindspinand the router is a blackbox one?11:03
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Yuki-Sannot sure...11:03
thoreauputicYuki-San: umm - google? What about searching the Ubuntu wiki? Visiting the apache home page?11:03
mindspinor another computer11:03
Yuki-Sanbut kununtu just botted up11:03
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Yuki-Sanbooted*\11:04
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learn25help!11:10
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learn25my usb flash drive cannot be detected. this was automatically detected before. help pls.11:11
jwarkgood day to you all! :-)11:11
learn25my usb flash drive cannot be detected. this was automatically detected before. help pls.11:11
learn25i did'nt done anything.11:12
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learn25maybe i was attacked by a virus???11:12
learn25maybe i was attacked by a virus???11:12
learn25my usb flash drive cannot be detected. this was automatically detected before. help pls.11:12
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Yuki-Sanhey guys it won'y let me be root for some11:14
Yuki-Sanreason11:14
Yuki-Sanit says password incorrent, and it's the right password11:14
Seveaslearn25: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.11:14
SeveasYuki-San, what wants to be root?11:14
mindspinYuki-San you have to use sudo11:14
topylilearn25: you don't have a virus, that's 99% certain :)11:14
Yuki-Sanis did su11:14
thoreauputiclearn25: there are no viruses for linux in the wild :)11:14
learn25i wondering why my flash drive cannot be detected in my ubuntu now11:14
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learn25i tried to boot under xp to check and it was detected11:15
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mindspinYuki-San which username did you give?11:15
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learn25but now under ubuntu my flash drive is lost.11:15
Yuki-Sanoishii11:15
thoreauputic!rootsudo11:15
ubotusomebody said rootsudo was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo11:15
mindspinthats your regular user11:15
learn25this was detected by ubuntu before11:16
thoreauputicYuki-San: read that11:16
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learn25this is strange.11:16
mindspinYuki -san I would strongly recommend not going public with your webserver until you reall know what you do and had some heavy testing11:17
mindspinespecially when it comes to security11:17
mindspinthere are enough messed up windows machines outside11:17
Seveas:o)11:17
thoreauputicYuki-San: I would suggest you do some basic reading about Ubuntu first, like the FAQ11:18
zoorHi everyone. I'm kinda new with this whole linux thingy. I just wonder... how on earth I can have programs to start up as default when I turn on my computer. I mean for instance I have downloaded a program called gdeskcal which is a program that displays the callendar. Perfectly for me. But I'd like it to just be there without having to write gdeskcal in terminal. Because as soon as terminal is shutdown the program disappear11:18
zoors. Hope you understand11:18
thoreauputic!faq11:18
ubotu[faq]  Frequently Asked Questions you can check it out from here ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions11:18
mindspinlinux is not secutre without some basic knowledge11:18
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learn25my usb flash drive cannot be detected now. maybe i have to re-install ubuntu again ;-(11:18
Seveaslearn25, does dmesg say it detects it?11:18
Seveaszoor, sytem->preferences->sessions11:19
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Seveasclick the "startup programs" tab11:19
Seveasand add it11:19
SeveasIf you run it from a terminal, add an & to the command11:19
Seveasthen you can close the terminal11:19
Seveasand you can also run a program from the "run program" dialog <alt><f2>11:20
SeveasSo lots of options there :D11:20
zoorSeveas, ahhhh... thank you. You made my day :)11:20
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DukGalNamuanybody here got diablo 2 LOD working with wine?11:20
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DukGalNamu??11:21
WilowHello I can't get my freaking sound to work im about to explode with anger.  My system sounds work but when i trie kaffeine, amarok and mplayer there is no sound what so ever.  Please find it in your heart to help me please.11:22
Wilowtry*11:22
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Seveasmplayer: set ao=esd in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf11:23
Wilowim using gnome11:23
DukGalNamuwhat sound card do you have?11:23
Seveaskaffeine/amarok: educate them to use esd/esound11:23
Wilowi dont know sorry11:23
Seveasno idea how, I don't use the programs11:23
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DukGalNamudo you plug your speakers into the back of your comp?11:23
SeveasDukGalNamu, please read11:23
Seveashis sytem sounds work11:23
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DukGalNamuwell....11:24
Seveasso the other things simply don't use esd :)11:24
thoreauputicWilow: fro amarok I suggest you install amarok-xine and change the engine for amarok to xine11:24
DukGalNamureinstall the programs... or compile them yourself11:24
Wilowmplayer: set ao=esd in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf ? how am i suppose to use this? i tried mplayer (SONG) set ao=esd in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf11:24
black-whispSeveas: i've added the wine Repositories as the wine guide says but when i use  the  command apt-get update it says ignored to the wine Repositories??? can you give me any help?11:25
Wilowmy speakers are desktop speakers plugged into system unit11:25
SeveasWilow, type this in the terminal: sudo gedit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf11:25
Seveasthat opens a file, search for a line that starts with ao11:25
Seveaschange that line to ao=esd11:25
Wilowthere is nothing in there11:25
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Seveassave the file11:25
Wilowits a black file11:25
Seveasand done11:25
Wilowblank11:25
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DukGalNamumake sure you spelled it right11:26
Seveasplease make sure you did not make a typo11:26
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Seveasbecause the file should be there :)11:26
Wilowsudo gedit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf11:26
thoreauputicWilow: have you installed mplayer??11:26
DukGalNamutry reinstalling mplayer in either case11:27
DukGalNamuapt-get install mplayer11:27
Wilowyeah but i installed it to opt or something if followed a guide11:27
DukGalNamuwit sudo in front11:27
SeveasDukGalNamu, that's nonsense :)11:27
SeveasWilow, ARGH!11:27
Seveasyou should not compile it manually...11:27
Seveasit's available from the repositories...11:28
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SeveasWhich guide did you follow?11:28
DukGalNamuSeveas: what do you mean, thats what i am known for!! :P11:28
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SeveasBecause the author of that guide needs some serious spanking...11:28
Wilowit was called the unofficial ubuntu guide or something11:28
SeveasWilow, ubuntuguide.org is crap11:28
DukGalNamuand if its a women, then it'll be me doing the spanking11:28
Wilowffs i followed it letter for letter11:28
mindspinOk, I need to compile a program by myself any problems with this? are there differences to compiling something on debian?11:28
SeveasAnd this proves it even more :)11:28
Seveasmindspin, no11:29
SeveasWilow, enable multiverse and install mplayer with synaptic11:29
Seveaswilow: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:29
Wilowhow how how11:29
Seveaswilow: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3811:29
seifuhey Seveas, saw you post some (tons) of helpful hints earlier, re: wifi, etc... I'm having some weird connection issues, wondering if u have the time to help....11:29
DukGalNamumindspin: depends what you are compiling, but it should be about the same11:29
Seveasread the first url, use the second...11:29
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Wilowi think i have already added repositories11:29
Seveasseifu, just ask, there are other people in here too11:29
seifutruth11:29
Wilowis that when you uncomment code in a file using gedit?11:29
SeveasWilow, ah from the ubuntuguide right?11:29
Wilowyeah11:30
DukGalNamuyou know synaptic is a little buggy....11:30
Seveasbad idea11:30
SeveasWilow, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:30
seifubasically... using the linksys (broadcom 4306) card, i've configured and installed ndiswrapper, wpa_supplicant, etc11:30
Seveasremove *all* content11:30
DukGalNamuit suddenly closed on me for no apperent reason11:30
Seveasand put in the sources listed at paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3811:30
WilowSeveas: done then?11:30
seifucard's recognized, seen by system, even sees my wlan, and other surrounding ones, but the connections not stable11:30
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DukGalNamuseifu: sounds like its the card11:31
Seveasseifu, does wpa_cli give you hints on what goes wrong?11:31
DukGalNamuseifu: try to up the power output of the base station11:31
black-whisphmm. i have a problem.. when i try to install software of i386 architecture it gives my an error and says it doesnt match my system amd64.. is it possible to install i386 software in a 64bit system???11:31
WilowSeveas: delete it all then paste just aht in?11:31
Seveasis it the association or just the network11:31
SeveasWilow, yes11:31
Wilowdone11:31
seifuDukalNamu... card work[ed]  fine under XP, base station output is already at max11:31
Seveasblack-whisp, only if you make a 32bit chroot11:31
Seveasblack-whisp, there are howto's for that on the wiki11:32
black-whispSeveas: what does the chroot thing mean?11:32
seifuSeveas: i think it's the association... i'm using an airport extreme/ airport express WDS network11:32
DukGalNamuseifu: then i have a feelling i am going to be in your position in a matter of weeks11:32
WilowSeveas: awaiting futhur instructions11:32
Wilower11:32
SeveasWilow, run sudo apt-get update11:32
Seveas(as soon as you saved & closed the file)11:33
DukGalNamuthen run sudo apt-get install mplayer11:33
WilowSeveas: done hurry please i gtg soon and i want to get this finished thans11:33
Seveasdo what DukGalNamu said :)11:34
seifuyeah, DukGalNamu, i'm not a newbie, so definitely know i've followed the guides, stuff works nicely... my network currently hosts about 6 other machines/ net devices... stuff's configured and working nice, just ubuntu that's not paying ball11:34
DukGalNamu:yeah i did something right!!111:34
SeveasDukGalNamu, almost ;11:34
Seveas;)11:34
DukGalNamuheh11:34
DukGalNamu:P11:34
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Seveassudo apt-get install mplayer-custom (this might work better)11:34
WilowThe following packages have unmet dependencies:11:35
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Wilow  mplayer-custom: Depends: libavcodec2 but it is not installable11:35
WilowE: Broken packages11:35
DukGalNamuummmm11:35
WilowSome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have11:35
Wilowrequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable11:35
Wilowdistribution that some required packages have not yet been created11:35
Wilowor been moved out of Incoming.11:35
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seifuDukalNamu... you're going to be using the same card also?11:35
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DukGalNamuseifu: probably not11:35
DukGalNamuseifu: but i have enough trouble networking as it is11:35
SeveasWilow, one sec..11:36
DukGalNamuseifu: have you installed the latest drivers and firmware?11:36
Wilowk11:36
seifuoverall, the network in Ubuntu is flawless, i have another server running Hoary, with two different cards, works fine... it's just the wireless...11:36
WilowUbuntu runs smooth but the sound issue is really starting to pizz me off since I badly want to listen to my songs.11:37
DukGalNamuhave you tried installing xmms?11:37
seifuDukalNamu... yah, all drivers...11:37
Wilowi dont care what player i use11:37
Seveaswilow, type this: wget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb11:37
Wilowmplayer or amarok i just want frizzing sound11:37
SeveasWilow, totem has sound ;)11:37
DukGalNamutry apt-get install xmms11:37
DukGalNamusudo apt-get install xmms11:38
Wilowlast line : : : : :: :: : w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb: Permission denied11:38
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Wilowhold on ill try using sudo on wget11:39
DukGalNamuno11:39
DukGalNamudon't11:39
DukGalNamuthat sounds bad11:39
DukGalNamucrap its late11:39
thoreauputicWilow: no11:39
DukGalNamuWilow: try again tomorrow11:39
DukGalNamuWilow: or thoreauputic will help11:39
DukGalNamu:P11:39
DukGalNamubye11:40
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thoreauputicWilow: that command works perfectly here: try copy-pasting it to a terminal11:40
Wilowok i just got xmms press the play button.  the play button is still in pushed in button positiosn (visually) and nothing is happening11:40
Wilowi did11:40
thoreauputicWilow: in xmms prefs, change the output plugin to esound11:40
Wilowi copy paste all commands11:40
Wilowomg thoreauputic it worked11:41
Wilowi have frizzing sound!11:42
thoreauputic:)11:42
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Wilowit was on OSS Driver 1.2.10 [libOSS.so]  and i changed it to es output plugin 1.2.10 [libesdout.so] 11:43
thoreauputicyup11:43
Wilowcan you change it in mplayer?11:43
Wilowchange it to esoutput plugin?11:43
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Biffihi it's me agian :)11:44
thoreauputicWilow: you can, but I strongly suggest you get the Ubuntu mplayer as Seveas said11:44
Biffii've done the checksum on my ubuntu cd ....11:44
Biffiand it contains 3errors11:44
Wilowyeah but we just got half way through it and something happened?11:44
Biffihave I to download the whole cd again?11:44
thoreauputicBiffi: well, yes I guess you do11:44
Biffi:s11:44
thoreauputicWilow: did you do a ` sudo apt-get update ` with your new sources.list in place?11:45
Wilowyes11:45
thoreauputicWilow: no errors on the update?11:46
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Wilowwget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb seems to be dling now11:47
Wilowhwo big is it?11:47
thoreauputicWilow: that deb will get you a whole set of windows codecs, which should allow you to play most formats11:48
thoreauputicwget should tell you ETA etc11:48
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WilowDATE (133.27 KB/s) - `w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb' saved [13,228,65411:48
Wilownow what?11:48
Wilowi still havent installed mplayer just the windows codecs?11:49
Wilowor am i using my current mplayer ver11:49
thoreauputicWilow: you should have a deb in that directory then11:49
thoreauputicfro those codecs11:49
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thoreauputic*for11:49
Wiloww32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb11:49
Wilow\11:49
thoreauputicsudo dpkg -i  w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb11:49
Wilowi remember putting some codecs a while back on that unofficial site11:49
Wilowin a certain folder for mplayer11:50
Whistlerwhen i start ubuntu i get this msg http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/17711:50
HrdwrBoBWilow: this is the same as doing that11:50
Wilowdid it thor11:50
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HrdwrBoBer11:50
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Whistleranybody can help me?11:51
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HrdwrBoBWhistler: is this a fresh install?11:51
Wilowthoreauputic: ready11:51
WhistlerHrdwrBoB nope11:51
HrdwrBoBdid it work before?11:52
HrdwrBoBif so, undo what you did :)11:52
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WhistlerHrdwrBoB yes but yesterday i got updates11:52
thoreauputicWilow: have you tried installing mpayer again? BTW I suggest trying totem-xine instead11:52
HrdwrBoBWhistler: are you using breezy?11:52
Whistlernope11:53
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thoreauputicWilow: I suggest you try ` sudo apt-get install totem-xine ` (don't worry if it wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop and totem-gstreamer)11:53
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mindspindoes it make sense to install from debian mirror via apt-get instead of compiling a program by yourself ->apt-pinning11:55
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HrdwrBoBWhistler: try removing option11:55
HrdwrBoBXkbrules "xfree86"11:55
HrdwrBoBfrom your config if you have it11:55
mindspinjust again, sorry maybe seveas can tell..11:55
thoreauputicmindspin: which program? Using debian sources is generally not a good move...11:56
mindspindoes it make sense to install from debian mirror via apt-get instead of compiling a program by yourself ->apt-pinning11:56
mindspini have to upgrade fwbuilder11:56
HrdwrBoBmindspin: depends on how you want to manage your system11:56
mindspinand I need some qt stuff to be installed11:56
HrdwrBoBapt-pinning will make it easier to track/upgrade/remove11:56
Seveasmindspin, almost all packages from debian are in Ubuntu too11:56
Seveasif you want to install from a debian mirror use apt-get -b source $packagename11:56
mindspinbut not the version of fwbuilder i used11:57
Seveasthen, do the apt-get source trick :)11:57
mindspinand i have to re-read aproject file11:57
Seveasoh and apt-get build-dep fwbuilder might be a good trick too ;)11:57
mindspinwhich cannot be opened by the ubuntu fwbuilder11:57
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SeveasAramil, please turn that off in here...11:59
Seveasaraw1-, please turn that off in here...11:59
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josef#linuxger12:03
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thoreauputicWilow: I assume by your silence that you have sorted out your problems?12:06
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mushroomHello World!!12:10
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pmjdebruijnlo all12:15
Seveashello mushroom :)12:15
yorGnome does not load automatically anymore. I have to type 'startx' after logging in. How can I fix this?12:15
Seveashi pmjdebruijn12:15
Seveasyor, sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults12:15
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yorthank you ;)12:16
pmjdebruijnmy dutch language support won't work... when I login I get something like locale NL-nl UTF-8 doesn't exist, using default...12:16
Whistleris it posible to have flash on ubuntu?12:16
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keikozyes12:16
keikozi just dont remember how :p12:16
Whistlerhmm.12:17
Whistlercossover office maybe?12:17
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zerokillsi tried to log on to my web email using Galeon, and its giving me an error that i need to install PSM (personal security manager).. anyone know how to install that?12:17
keikozflashplayer-mozilla12:17
keikozin synaptic12:17
Seveaspmjdebruijn, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales12:17
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Baderhi12:18
SeveasWhistler, only on i386, not on PPC or AMD6412:18
Seveaszerokarmaleft, install mozilla-psm12:18
BaderI would ask how many time took cds by ship it come ? It's an important issue for us.12:18
Seveaszerokills, install mozilla-psm12:18
zerokillsthanks seveas12:18
SeveasBader, several weeks12:18
BaderSeveas: less than one month ?12:19
SeveasBader, usually not12:19
iphitusi want to install some updated versions of a handfull of packages, firstly would it be safe to install them from debian unstable? or breezy? in particular, inkscape12:19
BaderSeveas: and for a group somewhere in a little town in France ?12:19
SeveasBut if you have a good reason to want it within a month, ask Mako if he can speed up your request.12:19
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Seveasiphitus, rather go for debian unstable if the package uses C++12:20
iphitusok12:20
BaderIt's because we organize what we call here a "colonie de vacances" with computer lessons, so Ubuntu will be distributed to the participants (teenagers).12:20
iphitushow abouts would I go about getting that? I only want inkscape, and maybe a few others along the track for now12:20
iphitusudpated liferea too12:20
Baderand my cd burner is broken :(12:20
SeveasBader, that's a good reason to request a speedup, you should drop mako a line12:21
Baderoki12:21
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Baderthank you12:21
Seveasyw12:21
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zerokillsmorning all btw12:24
Seveasmornin'12:25
m0r0ndevice is busy when attempting to umount a directory. Why does the gam_server use this directory and how is it possible to umount it?12:25
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Seveasm0r0n, kill gam_server and you can umount it12:25
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m0r0nok12:25
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anatoleanyone knows how can i decompress *.ace files?12:26
Seveasunace12:26
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Seveaspackage unace ;)12:27
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anatolethank you :)12:27
m0r0nSeveas, it's still busy after killing the gam_server and lsof -l doesnt print any output12:27
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anatoleFile compressed with unknown method. Decompression not possible. >_<12:28
Seveas:|12:28
anatolewhat makes people to compress in ace12:28
Seveaslack of IQ12:28
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anatole;)12:29
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SeveasHi Lunahood12:29
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Lunahoodhi seveas :)12:29
holycow*hmmm*12:29
holycowanyone having problems installing mplayer on their system?12:30
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holycowmarillat seems to have built their binaries with newer libraries than available in ubuntu?12:30
rob^holycow, no.12:30
rob^dont use marillat12:30
holycowreally?12:30
holycowalternatives?12:30
zerokillsholycow, i think i gave up on installing mplayer because i couldnt get it to work12:30
Vjazholycow, xine?12:30
holycowmy libdvdcss is having trouble decoding one dvd12:31
Vjazholycow, heh, I had a computer I called holycow once12:31
holycow:)12:31
Vjaz(I mean I had it once... it was called holycow on several occasions)12:31
Seveasmuha :)12:31
holycowi'm pretty sure its libdvdcss thats having the problem but i'd like to install mplayer just to check12:31
Seveasholycow, mplayer is in ubuntu multiverse12:31
rob^yes, holycow have you tried xine?12:31
holycowSeveas, it refuses to install12:31
holycowrob^, thats all i run12:31
holycowrob^, problems decoding 1 newish dvd12:32
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lenatt12:33
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holycowoh weird, Seveas okay you are correct12:33
holycowi didn't clue into the fact marillat would interfere with the dependency resolution12:34
holycowi should of known12:34
rob^holycow, it should work in totem also12:34
holycowrob^, your not reading what i'm writing12:34
holycow:)12:34
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rob^I get an error about decode_audio when using mplayer12:35
holycowlibdvdcss is not decoding certain vob's properly12:35
holycowi.e. i cant even browse the file system of the dvd12:35
holycowmk?12:35
holycowand i use xine12:35
zerokillsjust for fun i tried to install mplayer just now, and it gave me 5 options to choose from, which would be best for my AMD Athlon 1700+?12:35
holycowi.e. totem = xine as in i deinstalled totem-gstreamer and installed totem-xine :)12:35
holycowand w32codecs, yada yada12:35
holycow:)12:35
holycowlast test is mplayer because that bitch plays anything12:35
lenathere is some body speak french???12:36
zerokillshave you tried VLC?12:36
holycowif it can't read the dvd i'm hooped until the next libdvdcss publishing12:36
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holycowoh right vlc no :)12:36
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holycowinfact good time to try12:36
holycowi did try ogle for the first time tho :)12:36
rob^holycow, have you tiied libdvdcss2?12:36
zerokillsVLC is the answer to all my problems12:36
rob^tried..12:36
zerokills;)12:36
holycowrob^, oh right, thats the one i installed, *nod*12:36
holycowrob^, hehe i know i know :) <-- hense the smileys12:37
holycowmy thanks12:37
sknroiwsHow long does it take to get the cds I ordered?12:37
zerokillstoo long12:37
rob^hehe yeah12:37
sknroiwsDoes anyone know?12:38
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sknroiwsThe amount of days12:38
rob^sknroiws, it took about a month or more before they arrived here in aus12:38
whoopsI forgot how to turn on dma, what is the command hdparm -d1?12:38
sknroiwsWell im in the US12:38
zerokillssknroiws, its been about 2 weeks since i ordered mine and they still havent arrived12:39
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rob^whoops, hdpram -d1 (device)12:39
zerokillsim in the US as well12:39
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rob^whoops, eg hdpram -d1 /dev/hdc12:39
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anatolehah, unace worked with a newer version12:40
anatolethe pkg should be updated...12:40
anatoleit's version 1.2 while the latest is 2.212:41
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_linuxAS_hi12:44
whoopsrob^, thanks - later12:44
rob^np12:44
holycowrob^, heh i just discovered my dvd didn't havd dma on either12:45
holycowi wonder why this isn't on by default12:45
rob^compatibility12:46
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rob^mainly with older devices12:46
SpOokihello12:46
SpOokican u help me ?12:46
rob^just ask :)12:47
SpOokithanx hmm12:47
holycowah!12:47
SpOokii forgot my root pass12:47
holycowneat, didn't know12:47
shawarmaSpOoki: That's because you probably don't have one.12:47
rob^SpOoki, did you enable the root account?12:47
SpOokii don't know12:47
rob^then you dont have12:48
rob^one12:48
shawarmaSpOoki: Most likely you don't need it. What are you trying to do?12:48
SpOokiok :)12:48
rob^ubuntu uses sudo instead, just enter your normal password when promped12:48
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SpOokii am going to ubuntu now12:48
SpOokittyl12:48
SpOokiand thanx a lot12:49
rob^np12:49
shawarmaSpOoki: No problem.12:49
shawarmaSpOoki: Cheers.12:49
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rob^coffee time12:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know how to make streamtuner the default app for inet radio?12:50
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: streamtuner isn't really an app for inet radio in itself: it has to use xmms or beep or some other player for the actual playing...12:52
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ChurcH_of_FoamYok how do i make it act like the default player?12:52
thoreauputic?12:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYbecause i wanna record some music12:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i don't know how to snag the stream12:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat kaffiene player won't let me >.<12:53
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: why bother? You can add bookmarks to it for your favourite streams anyway12:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmm ok but kaffine get into it before i can do anything >.<12:54
thoreauputicif it's an m3u just download the file and look at the URL in an editor (same for pls files I think)12:55
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: right click, save as ?12:55
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thoreauputicsome streams you can't record because they are "protected"12:55
shawarmathoreauputic: I don't know if you ever listen to the radio, but they play different songs at different times. If you tune in to the same radio station at two different times, chances are that they'll be playing somehting else the second time around. :-D12:55
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conchihello12:56
SpOokihello12:56
thoreauputicshawarma: erm...and your point is ?12:56
SpOokii need help to install xmms12:56
shawarmathoreauputic: *COUGH* bullshit *COUGH* :-) If it can be played back, it can be recorded.12:56
conchihablais spanish12:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYi have xmms but it dosen't pick up the stream12:56
rommerhas anyone here successfully installed php5?12:56
shawarmathoreauputic: That saving a bookmark is no substitute for recording stuff.12:56
SeveasSpOoki, sudo aptitude install xmms12:56
thoreauputicshawarma: OK - but some stations make it more difficult12:57
Seveasrommer, look at the wiki12:57
Seveasthere are instructions on there12:57
rommeri have and it still doesnt work12:57
Seveasah k12:57
conchii have problem to wirelles12:57
thoreauputicshawarma: I think you totally misunderstood what I meant - but be happy in your wisdom12:57
shawarmathoreauputic: mplayer has a -dumpstream option that just dumps the raw stream. It also has a dumpaudio, that dumps the sound as a wave file. If everything else fails, esdmon can do the trick.12:57
conchihelp me?12:57
Seveasconchi, just state the problem12:58
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rommerSeveas: it comes up with: Apache/2.0.53 (Ubuntu) PHP/4.3.10-10ubuntu4 PHP/5.0.4 Server at server Port 80: if the page is not there, and it doesn't load anything when trying to load a php page, but html pages work12:58
shawarmathoreauputic: Sorry then. I just thought me meant that there was no point in recording anything as he could just bookmark the stream. That didn't make much sense to me.12:58
shawarmathoreauputic: Er... "I thought YOU meant"...12:58
SpOokiafter sudo aptitude install xmms what should i do next ?12:58
thoreauputicshawarma: no, that's not what I meant12:58
Seveasrommer, have you edited the apache config to actually load the modules?12:59
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Seveasand *remove* the php4 module from the config12:59
shawarmathoreauputic: Ok. Sorry if I seemed arrogant. English is not my native language. Sometimes it's hard for me to convey the twinkle in my eye, when I say stuff.12:59
conchiI have installed the card wirelles ovislink wl-8000pci with nediswrapper and it says to me that the hardware this detected and ready to be used and does not take Internet12:59
thoreauputicshawarma: we were discussing using streamtuner as a defult player: i was just saying the *actual* player is whatever you chose in the streamtuner prefs12:59
thoreauputicshawarma: OK no worries :)01:00
shawarmathoreauputic: Oh! Yeah, that makes more sense. :-)01:00
rommerSeveas: thsi is the only line in httpd.conf -> LoadModule php5_module        /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so01:00
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conchihelp me please01:02
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shawarmaWow. Talk about being impatient.01:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYthoreauputic how to change that stupid xmms to amaorK in streamtuner?01:04
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conchihello01:05
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: you edit the line in the preferences to substitute your player - I haven't tried amarok (I use beep here) but I guess it's possible01:05
Seveasconchi, what is the error you get..?01:05
conchiproblem to wirelles01:05
Seveasconchi, i've seen that01:06
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: you might need to look at the commandline options for amarok I guess01:06
Seveascan you be a bit more specific :)01:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYshit01:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow well does beep work?01:06
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: it's basically a prettied up xmms, frankly01:06
thoreauputicworks fine for me...01:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYok01:07
shawarmaconchi: Can you give more details, please?01:07
conchiseveas I have installed ndiswrapper with drivers of Windows, and she says despues once to me put that she recognizes the card and this list to me to be used, I have put I have loaded I modulate and in the grafico surroundings she recognizes the card to me but she does not connect to Internet01:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYcan you give me the setting so i can change it in my streamtuner?01:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYi kinda don't understans %xmms% lol01:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYor xmms q% even01:08
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: I suggest you type " amarok --help" and look at the options - there are quite a few01:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYok01:08
shawarmaconchi: Which card is it?01:08
Seveashmm, conchi I guess english is not your native language... Have you run the following commands:01:08
Seveasndiswrapper -m01:09
thoreauputicI think amarok -p will play a plylist01:09
conchiyou pardon my language use google to translate the words because I am Spanish01:09
Seveasndiswrapper -i DRIVER01:09
thoreauputic*playlist01:09
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Seveasconchi, maybe it is better for you to go to #ubuntu-es, there are more spanish people there :)01:09
conchiok01:10
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conchithank yoou01:10
berkesany apache server gurus in here, maybe? I am trying to get mod_pam working, but I am stuck. Have been hopping various channeels already, without luck01:10
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Seveasberkes, i don't know mod_pam, but I know apache fairle well, what's the problem?01:11
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berkesSeveas: I try to get authentication (for DAV) over mod_pam, instead of the default mod_auth with text-files01:12
berkesthe text-file aauthentication works as expected but mod pam does not authenticate as it should01:12
james__i have just downloaded the latest opera deb and installed it using dpkg. can anyone tell me how I get opera to show up in my internet menu?01:13
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Seveasberkes, sorry, that goes beyond my knowledge already :(01:13
berkesSeveas: np :)01:14
berkeseven google has no anwsers it seems :(01:14
Seveasand httpd.apache.org?01:14
shawarmaberkes: I've seen that problem.01:14
shawarmaberkes: You're probably using a shadow password database, right?01:14
berkesshawarma: could be, how do I know?01:15
shawarmaberkes: If you don't know, then you're using a shadow database. :-)01:15
berkeshehe01:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow does noatun work good?01:15
shawarmaberkes: The trick is that only root can authenticate users in that case.01:15
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berkesshawarma: off course. And apache cannot01:16
Seveasadduser www-data shadow looks like a bad idea :)01:16
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shawarmaberkes: The workaround I usually use is setup an LDAP database with all the users and their (encrypted) passwords in it.01:16
shawarmaberkes: And then I authenticate against the LDAP server instead.01:16
berkesshawarma: hmm, yea.01:16
berkesLDAP is for the next stage in our project, though :(01:16
berkesso I thnik Ill just leave it to authenticate agains the plaintext default apache authentication01:17
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Seveasberkes, if you don't mind that everyone can read the encrypted passwords, you can try adduser www-data shadow01:17
erbhi01:17
berkesthanks a lot for your time shawarma and Seveas01:17
anouarpaste.ubuntulinux.nl01:18
shawarmaberkes: Oh, yeah, what Seveas says might be a good idea. If this is a public system, it's not a very good idea, though.01:18
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berkesSeveas: hmm. I think i should not open up that security hole.01:18
shawarmaerb: hi01:18
berkesits not very public, but I have been beaten to death recently.somehow every h@x0r on earth tried to get into that box last month :)01:19
Seveasberkes, I too think you shouldn't :)01:19
Seveasouch :|01:19
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rob^is gnomecal seg faulting for anyone else?01:19
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black_Nightmareany of you know if its possible for ubuntu to format a hd to fat32 from a livecd?01:19
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berkesyea, portsniffers and ssh worms ate nearly 50% of my CPU for two weeks long :)01:20
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Seveasblack_Nightmare, might be possible, you can try mkfs.vfat or mkfs.fat3201:20
pmjdebruijnblack_Nightmare,  'mkfs -t vfat /dev/hda1'01:20
black_Nightmarehm ok..here is another question....01:20
rob^berkes, did you have those ports set to drop packets?01:21
Mwnciwhat is the minimum spec for ubuntu?   like in debian you can use a sliding scale to move your system from preformance to appearance. is that availabile in ubuntu?01:21
black_Nightmareis the ubuntu format command still the same 'retarded' 32gb limit on fat32 or not really?01:21
berkesrob^: hell, i was just installing everything :)01:21
black_Nightmaremwnci..mind you...can't please everyone in everything :p .. and beside not all distro are the same :-)01:21
rob^black_Nightmare, why do you want fat32?01:21
pmjdebruijnblack_Nightmare, depends... probably... it's just not sane to have fat32 > 32gb01:21
berkessometimes i could hardly log in, to tweak teh iptables01:21
pmjdebruijnrob^, probably interoperability, it's the only fs both linux and windows can write01:22
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black_Nightmarepmjdeb...what if I just wanted to fill a 40gb hd as a single fat32 partition?01:22
anouarwhat is a good mp3 decoder for ubuntu totem player01:22
Mwnciblack_Nightmare, what do you mean? i was complaining I was simply asking if it was possible01:22
rob^berkes, why not just pull the plug (internet connection that is)01:22
berkesbecause then our site would go offline :)01:22
rob^pmjdebruijn, thats what I thought01:22
pmjdebruijnanouar, apt-get install gstreamer-mad01:22
black_Nightmaremwnci..sorry I typed that bad..I was just commenting that you might not be able to find your requested feature on this distro I think01:22
berkesbut its calmer now.01:22
rob^berkes, if you couldnt get onto it anyway..01:22
anouarhey de bruin!!01:22
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anouarlol thnx01:23
Seveasgstreamer0.8-mad01:23
anouarwhat is it now01:23
holycowgod, i'm looking through my cd rack for some free soft i once got with a cd player ...01:23
anouar0.8 or01:23
Mwncii use ubuntu on my laptop happily. how ever my girlfriend uses a much lower spec laptop that crashes from time to time since i took debian off and put unbuntu on. i was just wondering if I could either reduce the bells for preformance and check the laptop was within the minimum spec of ubuntu01:23
holycow... and checking out all these so called 'commercial software titles aimed at satisfying the needs through the capitalist system' ....01:24
SeveasMwnci, on a lower spec machine, try XFCE instead of Gnome01:24
holycow... and all i see is nothing but lies and deciet01:24
black_Nightmarepmjdeb ... it kinda seem senseless to having to do 32+8gb on a single used hd so....after thinking about it for a while and how fdisk is ratherly limited I decided to try ask here especially regarding the livecd too01:24
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holycoweverything is designed to lie and decieve the user into buying yet another piece of crap good for nothing useless crap for 49.9501:24
holycowand i'm a red blooded capitalist01:24
holycow:)01:25
holycowits a little disconcerting to see things from this perspective01:25
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MwnciSeveas, im using kde. its the only window manager she likes01:25
rob^?01:25
pmjdebruijnblack_Nightmare, you'll need to just try... i think the design limit for fat32 is 128GB, so you should be allright, though I'm not really sure01:25
SeveasMwnci, hmm, KDE on a low spec machine is ASKING for trouble01:25
black_Nightmarepmjdeb..hm ok thanks anyhow01:26
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topyliholycow: heh. a "piece of crap good for noting useless crap" must be a pretty lousy piece of code01:26
zerokillsMwnci, i actually prefer xfce over KDE, just tell her to give it a shot01:26
rob^Seveas, I'm gonna run kubuntu on a p133 for testing purposes later01:26
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pmjdebruijnMwnci, try XFCE is really nice on low spec...01:26
holycowtopyli, its not just the software ... its how the crap is packaged01:26
Mwnciill have  a look. is it on apt?01:26
holycownothing is in a clean standalone installer01:26
Seveasrob^, good luck :)01:26
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rob^hehe thanks01:26
pmjdebruijnrob^, good luck, you can grow a beard when you're at it :)01:26
jinohi all01:26
holycoweverything has its own installer and dumps crap everywhere first01:26
SeveasMwnci, aptitude install xfce401:26
holycowsecond none of it really installs one app01:27
jinoplz temme how to install httpd service.01:27
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holycowit installs usually other stuff and tries to phone home01:27
brendan_can anyone tell me how to look at my other hard drive?01:27
rob^jino, if you cant work it out you dont want to know01:27
black_Nightmarepmjdeb...just curious but is there a common linux partition type for hmm..say single 120gb hds?01:27
holycowthen makes you type in an activation code FOR SOFTWARE I BOUGHT WITH A CD BURNER01:27
holycowand on and on01:27
Seveasbrendan_, put on your glasses and open your PC :)01:27
holycowi never haveto go through this crap on linux01:27
brendan_:P01:27
topyliholycow: at least you get another pretty icon in the windows notification area, next to the other 40 that are already there01:27
Seveasbrendan_, is the other drive a windows drive (ie: fat32 or ntfs)01:27
brendan_I mean, from like the linux and open the hard drive from the terminal?01:27
black_Nightmareholy..thats called 'bundle' .. meaning its packed in one box but still treated seperately01:27
JanCjino : install "apache2"with synaptic ?01:28
jinorob^, the thing is...i wanna do cgi programming..01:28
pmjdebruijnI'm getting this when selecting Dutch at the GDM Language thingy, then when I logon: 'Language nl_NL.UTF-8 does not exist, using System default"01:28
brendan_ya, this hard drive has linux and the other has windows01:28
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holycowoh great01:28
rob^black_Nightmare, no, but try either ext3 or reiserfs01:28
Seveasbrendan_: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically01:28
jinoya i have done it JanC01:28
holycowthe fucking dvd player is stuck and the whole os is now frozen01:28
holycowjesus01:28
brendan_My friend did that01:28
brendan_but i cant figure out how to get to it01:28
brendan_:-/01:28
black_Nightmarerob...oh ok....how large a partition can these two handle (or can they fill 500gb? heh)01:28
JanCjino : then read the documentation ?01:28
rob^jino, why not try it on someone elses server01:28
brendan_he kept doing all this stuff really fast01:29
rob^jino, like a free one01:29
brendan_so i couldn't get most of it01:29
lcddpmjdebruijn: try running 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' and select the locales you want01:29
pmjdebruijnjino, first get to know apache before doing cgi programming... things like installing and starting apache should be trivial before doing cgi programming01:29
jinothe cgi-bin folder doesnt appear01:29
pmjdebruijnlcdd, ah, THANKYOU01:29
rob^better then leaving your box open to compromise due to you lacking experience01:29
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rob^but then, some time people have to learn the hard way.. hehe01:29
rob^jino, if your an aussie try http://bur.st01:30
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jinoJanC , tthe cgi-bin folder doesnt appear01:31
JanCjino : a cgi-bin folder is not _required_01:31
K_Dallasis there a command to give you GMT ?01:31
JanCit's probably a good idea to use one01:31
shawarmaK_Dallas: date --utc01:31
Mwnciseveas  whats the difference between apt-get  and aptitude?01:31
K_Dallasgooreat, thanks01:31
jinoJanC , is it? why? the where will i park my web page and perl program..01:31
brendan_Seveas are you still here/01:31
brendan_?01:31
black_Nightmarejust curious but anyone recoken that you could get 98se to just be able to read a linux hd?01:31
rob^K_Dallas, its not that hard to work out :P01:31
SeveasMwnci, aptitude is better at uninstalling unneeded dependencies01:31
Seveasbrendan_, yes01:32
shawarmaMwnci: apt-get is command line tool. Aptitude is menu-based.01:32
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black_Nightmareor does the permission rights (admin too) in linux make that difficult01:32
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Mwncicool.01:32
darthvaderneed some quick help.. got an on board soundcard i dont want to use.. also got an sb audigy i want to use.. i dont hear any sound out of my audigy though. what do i have to do?01:32
rob^black_Nightmare, if its using ext2 you could01:32
Seveasdarthvader, disable the onboard thing in your BIOS01:32
rob^there are windows drivers for it01:32
black_Nightmarerob...hm ty .. is there a size limit to ext2?01:33
jinoJanC , how can i do it?01:33
darthvaderk i will see if that works.. im just testing out ubuntu 5.04 now.01:33
pmjdebruijnlcdd, :( didn't help.... thanks anyway01:33
kris_Im trying to create a link and its not working Im using the command ln -s jre/bin/java /usr/bin/java01:34
rob^black_Nightmare, 2TB01:34
kris_Is that right?01:34
lcddpmjdebruijn: are you sure? does 'locales -a' list nl_NL.UTF-8?01:34
pmjdebruijnblack_Nightmare, there is a size limit to ext2, there's is to all file systems01:34
Seveaskris_, you should not install java manually01:34
lcddpmjdebruijn: locale -a i mean01:34
Seveaskris_: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 01:34
kris_:o01:34
pmjdebruijnlcdd, locales, command not found :s01:34
rob^!java01:35
ubotumethinks java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java01:35
pmjdebruijnlcdd, yep it gets listed01:35
pmjdebruijnoh wait01:35
pmjdebruijnlcdd, it lists utf in lowercase instead of uppercase01:35
JanCjino, why don't you read the documentation?01:35
JanCthere is a link to "CGI: Dynamic Content" on the front page...01:35
black_Nightmarerob.. hm so ext2 could go from a 1gb hd to new 250gb ones?01:35
Seveaspmjdebruijn, that's ok01:36
JanCand the documentation is accessible on your PC01:36
rob^black_Nightmare, thats 2TB per file, so yes it could.01:36
lcddpmjdebruijn: i don't know why gdm is complaining then, sorry01:36
jinookie01:36
pmjdebruijnSeveas, lcdd, anyway i tried nl_NL too, doesn't work either01:36
JanChttp://localhost/manual/01:36
rob^but you will be much better off with ext3 on that 250gb hd01:36
pmjdebruijnbrb01:36
kris_Does that website have the 64bit one?01:37
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jinoJanC , i cant access it..it says it is not available01:38
JanCit should be if you have apache2 installed ?01:39
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jinookie01:40
black_Nightmarehmm makes me thinking... 98se on a hd... and storing to an ext2 slave hd (100gb or bigger) :p .. hehehe01:40
JanCmaybe try starting apache with "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start"01:40
jinoit is installed..01:40
jinoin /var/www01:40
JanC?01:40
yogixhello all - I and a few others have a cd/dvd-rom recognition problem in ubuntu? can someone help... (see this thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34516&page=2)01:40
rob^black_Nightmare, yeah, well its possible I suppose01:40
pmjdebruijnlcdd, crap I needed to restart GDM, stupid me01:41
JanCyou must install apache2 with synaptic or apt-get or aptitude01:41
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jinoya01:41
jinothe server has started01:41
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jinonow what should i do?01:42
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TayaHi, I need help setting up ubuntu mirror...01:43
yogixNeed some help... Anyone? (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34516&page=2) :-(01:43
Seveasyogix: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.01:44
jinoJanC , server didnt start..01:44
jinoit says 80 port is in use01:44
yogixseveas: oops... ok - my bad... apologies01:44
JanCyou're already running another server ?01:44
toinouhello I would like to launch a sript when my cvs is updated ? Is it possible ?01:44
jinono01:44
Elektronhi. My PC has a PS2 Mouse. I run dosemu and I want mouse works fine under dosemu. So, what do I have to do? I edit "dosemu.conf" and I set ' $_mouse = "ps2" '. But didn't work. Whats wrong?01:44
JanCyes01:44
jinohow do i check n remove it?01:44
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toinoujino, it's not possible ?01:45
jinoso?01:46
rob^yogix, it looks like someone has figured out a solution to your problem on the forum already01:46
jino * Starting web server (Apache2)...01:47
jino(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :8001:47
jinono listening sockets available, shutting down01:47
jino *able to open logs                                                      [fail] 01:47
rob^bah01:47
JanCjino: "sudo netstat -l -p | grep www"01:47
jinoJanC , this is da error am getting01:47
yogixrob^ - actually no, the last post is mine... will explain if anyone willing to listen.01:47
Elektronhi. My PC has a PS2 Mouse. I run dosemu and I want mouse works fine under dosemu. So, what do I have to do? I edit "dosemu.conf" and I set ' $_mouse = "ps2" '. But didn't work. Whats wrong?01:47
rob^yogix, shoot01:48
jinotcp        0      0 *:www                   *:*                     LISTEN     6 535/apache01:48
yogixrob^ : my dvd-rom drive on ide1 gets recognised only if i put "ide1=nodma" on the grub command line01:48
yogixrob^ : but this does not work if the command is put in menu.lst01:49
jinoJanC , this is da message01:49
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rob^yogix, so you have to do it manually01:49
yogixrob^ : yes - i have to press 'e'dit on boot-up and change the line and then 'b'oot01:49
JanCjino : you're already running apache 1.3 ?01:49
yogixrob^ :  I can't understand that behaviour!?01:49
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Whistlercan anybody recommend any php editor?01:51
rob^yogix, you could try http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#speedupcddvdrom   replacing on with off and -d1 with -d001:51
rifficvim01:51
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jinoJanC , how do i check..01:52
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JanCyou already did01:52
kev0roh01:52
jinookie01:52
Elektronhi. My PC has a PS2 Mouse. I run dosemu and I want mouse works fine under dosemu. So, what do I have to do? I edit "dosemu.conf" and I set ' $_mouse = "ps2" '. But didn't work. Whats wrong?01:52
Whistleri have it already installed how can i run it?01:53
kev0rhow do i tar a bunch of files?01:53
kev0ra whole directory for instance01:53
jinoJanC , so wat shall i do now.?01:53
yogixrob^, if I don't do that "ide1=nodma" thing on boot-up then the device isn't created at all - no /dev/hdc :-(01:53
JanCyou only need apache _or_ apache2, apache2 is the official supported version in Ubuntu01:53
JanCso, uninstall one of them  :)01:54
rifficWhistler: go to a terminal window01:54
rob^kev0r, the easy way is to do it via nautilus, just right click on the folder and choose "create archive"01:54
rifficand type "sudo init 0"01:54
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yogixrob^ - i've downloaded fedora core 4, maybe I should check if I have the same problem there... (but I would hate to kill my ubuntu setup)01:54
jinoJanC , okie01:55
jinoJanC , i have un installed every thing..01:55
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riffico.O01:56
rob^yogix, try http://www.linuxjunior.org/yabbse/index.php?board=7;action=printpage;threadid=5340    near the end01:56
quittecan someone please give me an example xorg config?01:56
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rob^you will have to alter the grub entry on that page to suit ubuntu though01:56
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Elektronhi. My PC has a PS2 Mouse. I run dosemu and I want mouse works fine under dosemu. So, what do I have to do? I edit "dosemu.conf" and I set ' $_mouse = "ps2" '. But didn't work. Whats wrong?01:57
rob^Elektron, stop repeating yourself01:57
Elektronei rob, do u know to do it?01:58
rob^norm_, try a dosemu forum/chan01:58
Elektronok 10ks01:58
yogixrob^, have tried that -- that's the strangest part.  It works when I edit it on boot-up but not if I put it in menu.lst... I am totally baffled by that!01:59
jwarkthank you guys... even by just reading on what you write in here helps... more power to Ubuntu!!!02:00
quitteanyone please dcc me his xorg config.02:00
rob^hmm02:00
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quitterob^: can i have yours?02:02
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rob^quitte, what did you do to yours?02:02
quitterob^: it never got created. in short: im building xorg on sh3 and the package installer doesnt fully work.02:03
rob^sh3?02:03
quittesuper hitachi02:03
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quitterob^: dreamcast has sh4. hp jornada 6xx use sh3.02:05
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rob^quitte, theres one at http://www.willmer.com/examples/xorg.conf02:05
rob^you'll need to modify it though02:05
_dwHi guys. On trying to do dpkg-reconfigure of  x, I'm getting debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process02:06
_dwWhat could I do?02:06
quitterob^: ok thanks.02:06
snowsealhey all. i want to recompile my kernel, do i need to add a " ubuntu patch"  before i compile it?02:06
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rob^_dw, kill the process that using it?02:06
rob^snowseal, no, just download the source from the ubuntu mirrors and use that02:07
_dwrob^: how could I find out what's using it?02:07
quittelsof02:07
snowsealoh, from the ubuntu lirror u say. hmm, ok02:08
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thoreauputic_dw: close synaptic and anything using apt or dpkg02:08
P3L|C4N0aptitude02:08
ubuntu_howdy02:08
_dwthoreauputic: I'm pretty sure none of that stuff is running; I get it even when logging into a failsafe terminal02:09
rob^snowseal, do "uname -a" to get your current running kernel and find the source package that matches it02:10
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manishhi people02:10
manishanyone using windowmaker on ubuntu?02:11
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aurax_hello02:11
goldfish_hi02:11
aurax_:)02:11
manishwindowmaker ne one here?02:11
aurax_is there a known solution to replace MS Exchange ?02:11
aurax_linux based of cours02:11
manishhi  goldfish02:11
snowsealrob^, ty.02:11
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Shuflahello ubuntiers :)02:11
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rob^hi02:12
aurax_ubuntiers, like that :)02:12
rob^yeah02:12
aurax_anyone here know a proper replacement for MS Exchange ?02:12
pc_hi, can anyone recommend a good usenet newsreader? i dont get evolution, dont like thunderbird, and pan gets killed for eating all my memory02:12
Vjazwe are the ubunteros02:12
aurax_that still works with MAPI02:12
aurax_and ms outlook clients.02:12
aurax_etc02:12
rob^aurax_, any of the MTAs available02:12
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aurax_yes but who02:12
aurax_you know there are tons of combinations02:12
aurax_i'm looking for a good suite .02:12
Shuflapostfix as base02:13
rob^pick one :)02:13
Shufla:D02:13
Shuflawell. i'd like to see proper set up of unix/linux tools to make nice and clean internal/external mail system ;)02:13
aurax_i would like to pick one02:13
Shuflaclients-oriented :D02:13
aurax_thats for sure ..02:13
aurax_:)02:13
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rob^if you have $$$ you could use @Mail02:14
aurax_no02:14
Shuflaaurax_: what are your needs?02:14
Shufla@Mail?02:14
aurax_Shufla, i need a replacement for MS Exchange02:14
aurax_that can sync ms outlook clients,02:14
aurax_IMAP etc..02:14
aurax_just to kick out ms exchange and use linux gateway/vpn etc. ..02:14
rob^www.atmail.com02:14
aurax_no02:14
aurax_i dont want webmail02:14
Shuflahm. for smtp[s]  i'd use postfix with maildirs02:15
rob^thats just one of the features02:15
aurax_err02:15
Shuflafor imaps - courier02:15
aurax_u dont understand02:15
aurax_ms exchange02:15
aurax_is all-in-one solution02:15
Shuflai do not, sorry02:15
rob^umm.. I do02:15
aurax_with dhcp lalala, dns ... etc..02:15
aurax_and with LDAP support02:15
Shuflahm...02:15
aurax_and all that crap02:15
aurax_now02:15
rob^mono02:15
aurax_there are few solutions, like ogo02:15
aurax_kolab02:15
aurax_etc02:15
aurax_some are not free.02:15
aurax_600-800 euros02:15
rob^is free02:15
aurax_for 5 users02:15
aurax_mono is not for groupware.02:16
aurax_etc.02:16
Shufla600EUR is not so much...02:16
aurax_ha02:16
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aurax_so why are we opensourcing ?02:16
Shuflawell02:16
aurax_:)02:16
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rob^you mean like Active Directory?02:16
Shuflaas i see opensource projects provide you little legos which you can make big towers02:16
aurax_indeed.02:16
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aurax_rob^ i mean like ms exchange, with contacts sharing02:17
aurax_and all that stuff02:17
aurax_even evolution is capable to connect to such server02:17
rob^aurax_, then you mean AD02:17
Shuflabut if you want to have big tower for free...I think is too much to do02:17
rob^its what exchanges uses02:17
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aurax_and i belive since MS using standart protocols there are replacemnts in the OS community02:17
aurax_what's ad rob?02:17
_dwa package has unmet dependencies and is mucking apt up. What can I do to just cancel it?02:18
Shuflaactive directory02:18
rob^Active Directory = LDAP, DNS etc02:18
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aurax_yeah02:18
ShuflaAD == marketiod(array(LDAP,DHCP,DNS,Kerberos,SSL,SMTP,...))02:19
aurax_"A replacement server that completely emulates MS-Exchange functionality in real time for MS-Outlook clients. This requires reverse-engineering Microsoft's secret RPC-based communications protocols, "02:19
rob^yes kerberos is a big part of it too02:19
aurax_secret rpc lol02:19
aurax_damn02:19
Vjazaurax_, what's so funny about that?02:19
Shuflait's not funny... :(02:20
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aurax_means ms doing syndicate shit02:20
aurax_not funny.02:20
KillerSmurfhow do I change ownership of a directory?02:20
iphitusanyone happen to know the password for hte user on the ubuntu livecd? My friend's running it, and xscreensaver's locked the screen -- and he cant get out without password02:20
ShuflaKillerSmurf: chmod ... dir02:20
KillerSmurfis it chown?02:20
rob^aurax_, http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&biw=1245&q=Active+Directory+and+linux&btnG=Search&meta=02:20
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rob^start reading02:21
yccheokmy vsftpd start whenever i start my linux, how can i disable it?02:21
Shuflatfu02:21
Shuflachown02:21
KillerSmurfk thanks02:21
Shuflayccheok: chmod a-x /etc/init.d/vsftpd02:21
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rob^aurax_, Novel eDirectory is sought of like AD also02:22
Shuflayccheok: you could use update-rc.d -f vsftpd remove, but after vsftpd upgrade debian scripts will activate it :(02:22
aurax_how's opengroupware.org ?02:22
aurax_worth the pain ?02:22
Shuflait's not bug, it's feature they say :(02:22
rob^not if you have the cash02:22
yccheokShufla: where does the command to start vsftpd actually reinside which script?02:23
rob^I did get a 100,000 user licence for eDirectory for nothing once though02:23
Shuflayccheok: /etc/init.d/vsftpd02:23
rob^legit too02:24
aurax_bah02:24
yccheokShufla: do u mean that all the startup program inside directory /etc/init.d ??02:24
rob^see http://www.novell.com/products/edirectory/pricing.html02:25
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rob^$2 per user licence I think02:25
aurax_rob02:25
rob^$15 for the software itself, not too bat02:26
rob^-bad02:26
aurax_is it capable to work with ms outlook clients ?02:26
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aurax_share calanders sync outlooks etc02:26
rob^most likely, you'll have to talk to novell themselfs and ask.02:26
rob^man I'm getting tired02:26
rob^bad english02:27
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aurax_ok02:28
aurax_c'ya02:28
youngcoderhow do i use KDE with Ubuntu?02:28
Seveasyoungcoder, aptitude install kubuntu-desktop02:28
Shuflayccheok: yes.02:28
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rob^!kubuntu02:28
uboturob^: Are you smoking crack?02:28
rob^dang02:28
youngcoderlol02:29
rob^heh02:29
rob^yeah its installable via apt-get02:29
youngcoderrob^ thats was a good one02:29
Shuflait's not good to be it specialist for 250EUR/month, isn't it? ;P02:29
Seveasehm, no :)02:30
Seveasnot if you work 40h/week02:30
rob^thats crap, actually.02:30
Seveaskinda02:30
Shuflai do work 40h/w :(02:30
Seveasi get over 3 times as much for 8h/week02:30
Seveass/8/1602:30
Shuflaomfg :(02:31
Shuflai'd leave my pretty country...02:31
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KillerSmurfi only get 29/44 but that's canadian02:32
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ShuflaSeveas: 4EUR/h?02:32
rob^night all02:33
Shuflanight02:33
KillerSmurfthanks Shufla for the chmod usage02:33
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ShuflaKillerSmurf: n/p02:33
HiddenWolfShufla, that's far below minimum wage here, even for a minor02:33
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snowsealwhats a good dvd copyer, like dvd-shrink for win.?02:33
Shuflamaybe. i'm not minor.02:33
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Shuflasnowseal: k3b?02:34
Shuflabut my country is poor and corrupted.02:34
Shuflaand high taxed.02:34
Cazabamsnowseal: if you mean to reencode to a smaller format, dvdrip is pretty good, but you need transcode :(02:34
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snowsealokies. seems that dvdshrink is pretty unique, but it works in wine. i'll try that. and i'll try k3b too.02:36
jmjonesanyone here have a laptop with an ati radeon x300 mobility?02:37
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Shuflai can't afford it to provide support ;P02:38
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zythx300? oi.  I think I have a laptop with an 8meg ATI Rage...02:38
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_cloudhi to all..02:38
jmjonesi've got the low-end x300 - the one with 64MB RAM02:39
_cloudis there someone who knows how to solve a problema with RAID?02:39
Cazabamsnowseal: if you can get transcode working it really is an excellent replacement for dvdshrink, but last I looked it wasn't inthe repos. shame02:39
Shufla_cloud: what's the problem?02:39
Shufla21min2go ;)02:39
_cloudehm..02:39
_cloudi have a 120gb mounted on RAID02:39
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_cloudbut ubuntu seems to not recognize this...in fact i cannot mount02:40
_cloudbecause the special device does'nt exist for that hd02:40
Shufla_cloud: paste /etc/fstab and /proc/raidtab to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:40
Shufla_cloud: and use exact device names.02:40
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_cloudand then what i have to do???02:41
Shuflaexplain your problem here as exact as you can02:41
Shufla19min2go:D02:41
pc_102:43
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jinohi, how can i install http server?02:43
Shuflajino: sudo apt-get install apache202:44
jinoi installed tat..02:44
_cloudShufla: i done that paste02:44
_cloudbut i don't have a raidtab02:44
_cloudit is possible??02:44
Shuflajino: great. sudo lsof -ni4 | grep -i apache02:44
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jinoShufla: but then i want cgi- bin folder..it never appears..02:45
Shufla_cloud: /proc/mdstat02:45
Shuflajino: huh?02:45
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jinoShufla: sorry, i don have much idea about the stuff02:46
jinowill u plz temme..02:46
Shuflajino: what do you want to do?02:46
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jinocgi perl programming..02:46
jinowith front end as html02:46
_cloudShufla mdsta is empty02:46
_cloudi opened it with kate02:47
guupstadoes anyone know if foobar2000 available in some repository?02:47
Shuflajino: libapache2-mod-perl202:47
Shufla_cloud: cat /proc/mdstat02:47
Shufla12min2go02:47
_cloudk02:47
SeveasShufla, mod_perl != cgi02:47
ShuflaSeveas: i know.02:47
jinowhere should i type it..?02:48
Seveasjino, you will have to create it yourself02:48
Seveasdo as been told before: read the documentation02:48
Seveasinstead of asking the same over and over again02:48
_cloudPersonalities :02:48
_cloudunused devices: <none>02:48
jinoSeveas, how?02:48
_cloud*_*02:48
Seveasjino, argh.....02:49
Shufla11mins2go02:49
Seveashttpd.apache.org / www.perl.org02:49
Shuflai've got to go, by02:49
Shuflabye :)02:49
jinobye02:49
Seveasjino, please don't use weird characters02:50
jinookie02:50
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sulff./srcds_run -console -game cstrike -port 27015 +ip 123.123.123.123 +map de_dust +maxplayers 14 < where can i get the ip a need to replace instead of 123.123.123.123 plz ??02:51
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Dj_AlTeKhey all02:53
jinoSeveas, i have installed apache 2..now02:53
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Seveasjino, good, now read the documnentation about how to setup cgi02:54
_linuxAS_re02:54
jinoSeveas, thanx..i have read..but then it asks to edit some files..i dont know wat..02:55
Dj_AlTeKhey Seveas02:55
SeveasDj_AlTeK, hi :)02:56
zythmorning Seveas02:56
jinoSeveas,  ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/local/apache2/cgi-bin/...where should i do this02:56
Seveasjino, by default cgi-bin on the server is redirected to /usr/lib/cgi-bin02:56
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Seveasso create your cgi scripts there02:56
Seveasgood afternoon zyth :)02:57
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jinoSeveas,  so where do i put my html file..02:58
jinowat is this script alias02:58
Seveasjino, you don't create html files with cgi02:59
Seveasyou let the cgi program create html...02:59
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jinoya rt..02:59
Seveasjino, please read the documentation about how cgi works...03:00
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Seveasthat is beyond the topic of this channel...03:00
jinobut the..wat i wanna do is to take an input from an html file and run a perl cgi program..03:00
jeanrelo all03:00
jeanredoes anyone know how to use themes for gnome03:00
Seveasjeanre, art.gnome.org/faq.php03:00
jmjonesjeanre: what's you're question03:01
jmjones?03:01
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jeanrejmjones: I am downloading themes03:02
jeanreand doingt he way the faq says03:02
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jeanrebut uhm it aint working03:02
jmjonesjeanre: haven't read the faq :-) - how are you installing them?03:02
jeanrejmjones: can I pm?03:03
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jmjonesjeanre: sure03:03
_cloudyo anyone knows why my ubuntu does'nt see my hard disk on RAID??03:03
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shawarma_cloud: Which raid controller?03:05
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snowsealmy dvd runs at 1x, how to tweak that?03:07
Seveassnowseal, try enabling DMA on that drive03:08
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snowsealSeveas with module argument options probably ?03:09
Seveasnope03:09
Seveashdparm -d1 /dev/yourdvddrive03:09
snowsealoh. ty.03:10
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xxtremeseveas= i need mail help.....please03:12
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Seveasmail help..?03:12
xxtremeseveas, im trying to configure sendmail with my gmail account03:12
xxtremeseveas i dont have a clue what i'm doing03:13
Seveasi see that :)03:13
shawarmaxxenon: sendmail with gmail... What is that supposed to do?03:13
snowsealyess Seveas dvd is much faster now ;d03:13
snowseal:D03:13
Seveaswhat are you trying to accomplish xxtreme ?03:13
zythSendmail.. with gmail...?03:14
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xxtremeseveas, i want to be able to fetch my mail from a pop3 account into my linux box03:14
zythwhy not just use gmail's pop3/smtp03:14
Seveasah, you mean fetchmail!03:15
xxtremeseveas i hate kmail and any gui, so im trying this03:15
Seveasgoogle uses pop3s so you must let fetchmail use pop3s too (if it can do that)03:15
_cloudshawarma i have a gigabyte03:15
_clouddunno what controller is03:15
zythgmail also uses some weird ports03:15
zythnonstandard.03:15
xxtremeseveas= zyth any suggestions03:16
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Seveaszyth, no, they use the standard pop3s port...03:16
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A[D] minSGuys how i can add online mirorrs to install from it?03:17
xxtremeseveas, i have fetchmail installed, just don't know how to set it up correctly03:17
Seveasxxtreme, neither do I :)03:17
SeveasI never used it03:17
Seveasbut look for an ssl/pop3s flag03:17
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xxtremeseveas=thanks, someone told me about pine also03:18
_cloudi have a 120gb on a RAID...but i don't know how to mount that! i don't know the associated special device03:18
Seveasmd0 probably03:18
xxtremeany fetchmail geeks here03:18
zythSeveas, I recall having to set some weird ports for my gmail.03:19
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zythmaybe I'm on crack.03:19
Seveasxxtreme: poll MYSERVER port 993 plugin "openssl s_client -connect %h:%p"03:20
Seveas        protocol imap username MYUSERNAME password MYPASSWORD03:20
Seveaszyth, they use 993, which is the default port for pop3s03:21
zythOh03:21
zythOk.03:21
zythThat I wasn't aware of03:21
Seveashmm03:21
zythI just knew it wasn't 11003:21
xxtremeseveas thanks, you Rock!!!!!!!03:21
Seveaswait 993 is imaps03:21
Seveasxxtreme, you'll have to change that line :)03:21
raiden24pop3s is like 150 or something03:21
Seveasprotocol pop3 instead of protocol imap03:22
Seveasport 995 instead of 99303:22
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raiden24ya03:22
Seveasraiden24, it's 995 :)03:22
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raiden24my mistake :)03:22
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berkesOMG, fscking stupid java. with thei stupid licence issues, and complete/uttlery insane system of J2RE J2SE J2SDK why should I even care? </rant >03:25
Seveas:D03:26
berkes< /rant>03:26
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Juhazif that's insane, what wouldn't be? you'd rather not have runtime environment and force everyone who just wants to run an applet to install the sdk?03:27
berkesi want apt-get install java03:27
lcddis there a java package for amd64?03:27
Seveasberkes, that's possible03:27
Seveasfrom backports :)03:27
Seveaslcdd, iirc not, but if there's a java installer for amd64 you can easily make one03:28
Seveaslcdd: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 03:28
berkesSeveas: yea, not really though. and if wso, the distrubotor of that repository is violating the lisun licence03:28
berkesSeveas: I know al that?03:28
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berkesthats what I am ranting about03:28
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lcddSeveas: thanks, that'll do it03:28
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Seveasberkes, yes, the person who is making this .deb file available IS violating the sun license03:29
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Seveasif you per se do not want that, do the make-jpkg dance03:29
berkesSeveas: fsking sun people, with their stupid licence.03:29
Seveasyeah...03:29
noodleis anyone handy at setting up tomcat?03:30
berkesSeveas: i dont care. if it were up to me the licence ppl at sun would get all sorts of nasty viruses :)03:30
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Seveaswell, I consider java to be a nasty virus :)03:31
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McStabbhello?03:31
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berkesSeveas: hehe.03:32
shawarmaMcStabb: Hi03:32
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Seveashello McStabb03:32
berkesits just that i need to pay my bills and my bank uses java for the online banking, otherwise i swould stay far from all java crap03:32
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SeveasLikewise here, and my research projects use it :(03:33
jze_Does any1 know where could I find drivers for Voodoo 3 gfx card?03:33
zythum03:33
A[D] minSapt-get  install tcl03:33
A[D] minSReading package lists... Done03:33
A[D] minSBuilding dependency tree... Done03:33
A[D] minSPackage tcl is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:33
A[D] minS?03:33
A[D] minSchecking tcl build dir... configure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev03:34
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ChetIs there like a minimalistic video player that can play in the framebuffer? It's for DSLinux03:34
zythI think DRI works for the voodoo3 for OpenGL...03:34
jeanrewhats a nice gui to rip dvds03:34
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jze_zyth: So how do I get it?03:34
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nalioth_zZzZzZzZjeanre: dvd:rip03:35
zythjze_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Voodoo3doesnotdo3d03:35
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SeveasA[D] minS, try tcl8.403:35
zythbut you can only do 3D at 16bpp, 1024x768 or less03:35
nalioth_zZzZzZzZSeveas: berkes are there no other ways around java (like callin the bank and telling them java won't run on your machine?)03:36
Seveasnalioth_zZzZzZzZ, hehehe not really03:36
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Seveasbut my bank got bashd by all inds of security gurus about their weak system03:36
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Seveas(It actually is pretty nice, it's just that is uses login+pw only)03:36
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naliothcuz i agree, java does suck03:36
HiddenWolfseveas, postbank sucks, doesn't it. :P03:37
SeveasHiddenWolf, i like it :)03:37
SeveasI like tan per sms03:37
zythI thought of learning to program java, but it looked evil, so I avoided it.03:37
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Seveasalways last the tan sheets :)03:37
Seveaslosy*03:37
berkesnalioth: yea, but that would mean i have to do my transactions @ the bank, whickh means talkin, to real people03:37
Seveaslost*03:37
berkes:)03:37
Seveaslol berkes03:37
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HiddenWolfseveas, I hate it that they took away the old history of my account. Now for everything older than one month, I have to resort to hardcopy. :S03:37
naliothberkes: they don't have alternative online methods?03:37
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berkesnalioth: nope03:38
ChetSomeone tell me the name of movie players that can play in the Framebuffer but aren't xine/mplayer/vlc03:38
mindspinberkes the real people in our bank ar set free for being replaced by machines03:38
SeveasHiddenWolf, ouch :|03:38
lcddcoming from a place where all banks use one-time passwords, a simple login+pw sounds amazing :)03:38
berkesChet: kaffeine, but that uses xine, afaik03:38
shawarmaChet: ffplay03:38
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Seveaslcdd, OTP's are only used for committing transactions03:39
Seveaslcdd, you hit commit, they send you an sms with an OTP and in the next page you fill it in and hit 'Really Commit'03:39
lcddSeveas: that's good at least03:39
Chetthanks shawarma03:39
shawarmaChet: np. It's in the ffmpeg package, which I thing is in multiverse03:39
zythHuh, you can play video on ipodlinux03:40
zythhow weird.03:40
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MidnightDevilheya03:42
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Seveasayeh!03:42
MidnightDevilim trying to install webmin with all the modules but im getting some broken packages erros like this: webmin-exim: Depends: exim4 but it is not going to be installed or03:42
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MidnightDevilanyway to ignore these?03:43
SeveasMidnightDevil, ubuntu uses postfix instead of webmin03:43
SeveasMidnightDevil, ubuntu uses postfix instead of exim*03:43
MidnightDevilthats just an example03:43
Seveaswell, there will be more like that :)03:43
MidnightDevilreturns errors with postix, exim, postgresql, sendmail, showerwall and we-ftpd03:44
Mwnciok i have installed xfce4 and it runs much more stable. how ever i have a couple of config questions. How do you add items to the popup menu since its taken synaptic and abiword out of the menu that it had in kde03:44
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SeveasMidnightDevil, why would you install all these modules?03:44
Seveasdo you run postgres/sendmail/shorewall/etc..?03:44
MidnightDevilsince i dont need any of those, can i ignore it ? or do something like apt-get install webmin* | exclude_those_packages_aboce ?03:44
MidnightDevillol03:44
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MidnightDevilSeveas: i dont use shorewall, or postgres, or sendmail03:44
SeveasMidnightDevil, just install what you need...03:45
MidnightDevilo just want to install all the modules except the ones i dont need, which are the ones that return a error03:45
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MidnightDevilSeveas:  can i add a command to exclude ?03:45
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jeroen__exit03:45
Octane-is there a way to find out the version of a program (installed via package) that you have from the command line?03:45
thoreauputicMwnci: try running xfce4-menueditor  (but you may have to add them to the main menu bar rather than to subsections)03:45
SeveasMidnightDevil, try using aptitude ;)03:46
Mwnciill give it a go thanks03:46
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thoreauputicOctane: apt-cache policy <packagename> should tell you03:46
MidnightDevilok :)03:47
Octane-thoreauputic: thanks so much03:47
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thoreauputicOctane: no worries :)03:47
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rekacan anyone recommend a dvd ripper besides the one recommended in ubguide (dvdrip), or is that the "best" one out there?03:48
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naliothreka: whats the matter with dvd::rip?03:49
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naliothreka: it is ::ripalicious03:49
emilioalguien que pueda ayudarme con ubuntu  1 min03:50
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rekanalioth: ah ok, i haven't tried it yet :-P thought i might ask considering ubguide's reputation03:50
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Mwncithoreauputic, thats the thing i was looking for. any idea how to get synapic going?  only when i su -   does it regonise the command and as root it cant run the gui03:50
shawarmaemilio: Que es la problema?03:50
swoopanybody know why my epsxe cant get sound working ?03:50
Seveasemilio, we speak english on here...03:50
swoopif i disable the spu plugin it boots to bios03:50
Seveas#ubuntu-es por espaol :)03:50
swoopbut with the plugin it freezes03:50
swoopTungsten Graphics, Inc03:50
swoopMesa DRI Intel(R) 852GM/855GM 20041217 x86/MMX/SSE203:50
swoop * Open gpu[0] 03:50
swoop * Init spu[0] [libspuPeopsOSS.so.1.0.8] 03:50
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thoreauputicMwnci: enter the command as ` gksudo synaptic `03:50
swoopthen nothing :(03:50
swoopeverything else works.. zsnes, tuxracer ect all with sound and all03:51
naliothreka: ubuntu GUIDE suX0rs, but that doesnt meand the proggys listed there do03:51
Pop_pa_FrEaKswoop do you have the config files for sound in epsxe ?03:52
MidnightDevilif i have apache already do i need to install webmin apache module? or this will be something like monitor?03:52
swoopin the cfg folder03:52
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lennartI have made a query from a database. Is it possible to get the column names with the Java API?03:52
swoop2 secs lemme copy to the epsx main dir also see if that works03:52
Seveaslennart, that's very very off topic in here03:53
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Seveastry a java channel03:53
Seveasor one associated with your database03:53
lennartSeamusLP, ops .. sorry wrong channel03:53
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jze_rrf03:53
swoopPop_pa_FrEaK, : still nothing03:53
Pop_pa_FrEaKhmmmm not sure then03:54
swoopdunno why really03:54
Mwncithoreauputic,  thanks03:54
swooptried like all the spu plugins i can find03:54
chillywillyhey, my mouse starts sending button events when I move it after switching to my Ubuntu desktop. I also get this message: Jun 23 08:48:39 dan kernel: psmouse.c: Explorer Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 2 bytes away. What can I do about this? In order to fix it I must always unplug my mouse from the KVM then plug it back in03:54
thoreauputicMwnci: :)03:54
swoopand when everything else works it reall should be working :(03:54
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Seveaschillywilly, try without the KVM03:55
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mlynchhi all03:55
rekahello michael03:55
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mlynchNewbie here.  Can someone help with preseed?03:56
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mlynchI attempting to set up unattended installation via PXE network boot/install.  Apt-configuration03:58
mlynchis failing03:58
Mwncithoreauputic, another hopefully as simple question. how do you set xdm to log in automatically without putting in a user or password03:58
swooplibstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or direct03:58
thoreauputicMwnci: that i don't know, sorry03:58
swoopi get this error if i use the internal sound plugin03:58
thoreauputicMwnci: gdm can do it though03:58
swoopanbody help me on that one ?03:58
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Mwncikde has a tool to configure kdm to do it. i was hoping xdm might03:59
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thoreauputicMwnci: xdm is ugly as sin anyway - why not use gdm instead?03:59
thoreauputicthe overhead is a bit higher I guess...04:00
thoreauputicoh, he left... OK04:00
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thoreauputicMwnci: wb :)04:00
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nalioththoreauputic: there ya go04:00
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pixmanAnyone knows if there is any ongoing development of more GUI-tools in Ubuntu? And why the **** they removed openoffice-base from the repo? O_o04:01
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Mwncithoreauputic, thanks04:01
fnoyhi04:01
thoreauputicMwnci: you missed my pronouncement on the ugliness of xdm ;)04:01
zookoGreetings, people of Ubuntu!  Does the linux-source-2.6.11 package contain all of the 2.6.11.x patches?04:01
fnoycan some one tell me how the ubuntu prtage works04:01
Seveas<thoreauputic> Mwnci: xdm is ugly as sin anyway - why not use gdm instead?04:01
Seveas<thoreauputic> the overhead is a bit higher I guess...04:01
Seveaszooko, yes04:01
zookoSeveas: thanks!04:01
thoreauputicSeveas: stop repeating! *grin*04:01
Seveaszooko, but be warned 2.6.11 is unsupported and known to contain bugs04:01
zookoI hereby choose linux-source-2.6.11 over linux-source-2.6.12.04:02
chillywillybah, upgraded kernel to 2.6.11 and was getting hard freeze during Gnome startup04:02
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zookoWhoops, I hereby unchoose it.  What bugs?04:02
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naliothfnoy: portage?04:02
fnoyyes04:02
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naliothfnoy: we use apt-get here04:02
Seveasfnoy, ubuntu has no portage...04:02
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Seveasubuntu has apt04:02
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zooko2.6.10 failed to compile with current breezy gcc, so I figured it is time to upgrade kernel-source...04:02
Seveasa far superior system :)04:02
naliothfnoy: if you want to build from source, apt-get will do that, too04:02
mlynchAny preseeding experts out there?04:02
Seveaszooko, current breezy gcc is 404:02
fnoyok04:02
fnoythx04:02
Seveasand cannot compile *any* kernel04:02
swooplibstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or direct04:03
GNULinuxerSeveas> is most of breezy going to be built with gcc4?04:03
SeveasGNULinuxer, yes04:03
Seveasbut afaik not the kernel04:03
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GNULinuxerSeveas> yeah, i heard it has issues with the kernel04:03
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GNULinuxerSeveas> IMHO, they should try to use OOo & eclipse with GCJ04:04
zookoArgh.  Reiser4 vs. kernel devs politics again!  Nooooo.  I wanted reiser4 in breezy.04:04
zookohttp://lwn.net/Articles/140002/04:04
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SeveasSeveas, they do04:04
GNULinuxerSeveas> and create native binaries of eclipse like the FC4 guys04:04
SeveasGNULinuxer, they do04:04
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Mwncithoreauputic, Seveas  i want it to auto login anyway so its looks mean nothing but xdm is a lot quicker than kdm  dunno about the speed of gdm04:05
GNULinuxerSeveas> good & lol04:05
zookoAh, but 2.6.12 *is* supported.  At least, it is in main.04:05
naliothSeveas: no, you should not ANSWER yourself04:05
PihlHi! Im completely new to linux and is just about to install Ubuntu. I have on question though: If needed, how do I uninstall ubuntu and reinstall Windows?? (this is just for reassurance)04:05
SeveasMwnci, gdm is quite fast & flexible04:05
GNULinuxerzooko> it says subscription required04:05
naliothPihl: ubuntu and windows can peacefully coesist04:05
naliothcoexist04:05
lcddMwnci: xdm can't do that. perhaps you should try gdm instead04:05
Pihlnalioth, I just need one of them04:06
shawarmazooko: What's so great about Reiser4 anyway?04:06
rekaPihl: boot from your windows cd and delete the linux paritions on install04:06
naliothPihl: then a simple reinstall of windows will do the trick04:06
MwnciPihl, i have both unbuntu and windows happily on this laptop.  still use windows for some programs04:06
j23tomIs there any good gui tool to mount partitions on freshly added hard disk ?04:06
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GNULinuxershawarma> it's the fastest FS04:06
jaardsiAny idea where I could obtain the Ubuntu server banners featured here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//ServerBanners ?04:06
shawarmaGNULinuxer: In terms of... ?04:06
bob2it's fastest for SOME things04:06
bob2it's also very new04:06
bob2and reiser has a history of issues04:06
GNULinuxershawarma> in terms of file access & creation04:06
Seveasjaardsi, they have to fix up the wiki again :)04:07
PihlGreat, that was what I hoped for. I just read different approaches and was in doubt :)04:07
SeveasGNULinuxer, and in terms of unrecoverable crashing :)04:07
jaardsiSeveas, yeah... Just wondering if anybody would have them backed up or something.04:07
GNULinuxershawarma> it's different since all file systems just store file names in balanced trees ... ReiserFS stores files themselves in balanced trees04:07
j23tomIs there any good gui tool to mount partitions on freshly added hard disk ?04:07
bob2j23tom: no04:07
j23tom:(04:08
Seveasjaardsi, http://shawn.cybermagellan.com04:08
GNULinuxerSeveas> i am using ReiserFS (not 4) for quite a long time ... nothing like that happened04:08
bob2j23tom: www.ubuntuguide.org04:08
jaardsiTa!04:08
Seveasj23tom, fat32/ntfs partitions?04:08
PihlThx for the answer! I guess Ill be hanging around here for a long time from now on ;)04:08
j23tomfat3204:09
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Seveasj23tom: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically04:09
thoreauputicGNULinuxer: a sample size of one is not a statistically useful benchmark ;)04:09
shawarmaGNULinuxer: http://bhhdoa.org.au/pipermail/ck/2004-December/001804.html04:09
j23tomhmm thx :)04:09
shawarmaGNULinuxer: Not exactly unambiguous.04:09
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naliothSeveas: you continue to amaze me04:10
zookoGNULinuxer: lwn.net releases their articles gratis after 7 days.  However, I do encourage people to subscribe.  The price is very cheap, they are a small, community-oriented publication with high-quality content.04:10
shawarmaGNULinuxer: "I did the above procedure (3) three times for each filesystem. Below are my results. reiser4 consistently untars the kernel 4 seconds quicker. However, xfs consistently compiles the kernel 40 seconds faster."04:10
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Seveasnalioth, hmm?04:10
madsenAnyone packaged LinCity-NG for Ubuntu?04:11
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rekathoreauputic: you reminded me of this: "people can come up with statistics to prove anything. 14% of people know that." </Homer> =)04:11
bob2madsen: it's annoying to build04:12
naliothSeveas: how do you find all this stuff?04:12
bob2madsen: I did package it on the weekend04:12
GNULinuxershawarma> the talk is about ext3 vs reiserfs 404:12
bob2I should upload it somewhere04:12
Seveasnalioth, i MADE that script :)04:12
GNULinuxershawarma> ext3 will be much slower04:12
madsenbob2: Cool!04:12
zookoReiser 4 is the most interesting platform for fs research which is also fast enough and almost stable enough to be widely deployed.04:12
Seveasbecause i couldn't find one :)04:12
thoreauputicreka: right, and 86.34 % of statisitics are wrong ;)04:12
naliothSeveas: well, i guess thats the best way to find something04:12
madsenbob2: I can't get their autopackage working...04:12
thoreauputic*statistics04:12
bob2madsen: I wouldn't bother with that04:12
bob2madsen: just compile the tarball04:13
bob2madsen: I'll get you the list of needed packages, one sec04:13
shawarmaGNULinuxer: I never mentioned ext3. zooko was sorry that reiser4 maybe wasn't going to be in the kernel, and I just don't get why people feel that way, when we have xfs.04:13
shawarmaGNULinuxer: And yes, ext3 will be much slower. That's true.04:13
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bob2XFS tends to replace files with NULLs when it crashes, tho04:13
madsenbob2: Hmm... I'd rather wait for someone to package it... I'm trying to keep my system .deb only. The autopackage thingy was bad enough.04:13
bob2madsen: hah04:13
madsenbob2: But thanks. :)04:13
bob2madsen: np04:13
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madsenbob2: ?04:13
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GNULinuxershawarma> if you want benchmarks, read this http://namesys.com/benchmarks.html04:14
thoreauputicmadsen: use checkinstall and it will make a deb for you04:14
madsenthoreauputic: Really?04:14
thoreauputicmadsen: yup. ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall04:15
thoreauputicjust install checkinstall04:15
madsenthoreauputic: Gotta check that out. Sounds good! :)04:15
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thoreauputicmadsen: it isn't a fully debianised deb, but for local use it will be fine04:15
naliothmadsen: checkinstall is great when compiling your own soft, it keeps your system in order (re pkg management)04:16
madsenthoreauputic: Hehe, I was just about to ask about that.04:16
mdasilvais there a system log checker package available for ubuntu?04:16
madsennalioth: Yeah, it seems so. :)04:16
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bob2mdasilva: about 7 000 of them04:17
bob2mdasilva: logcheck is nice04:17
mdasilvaim using that one04:17
madsenbob2: That list of required packages for compiling LinCity-NG would be very welcome then. :)04:17
Rick2If I want my system to dual boot with ubuntu and xp do I need to get a 2nd hdd or can I run them off the same one?04:17
mdasilvabut it isnt in the repository is it?04:17
naliothRick2: the same one is fine04:17
bob2mdasilva: of course it is04:17
madsenRick2: You can easilly run them on the same, you just need to partition it.04:17
mdasilva:\04:18
Rick2ok thank you04:18
naliothRick2: you just have to make room for linux04:18
swoophmm just did a search and i couldnt find this file04:18
swooplibstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.304:18
Rick2I've never used linux before so I wasn't sure how to do this04:18
swoopthat would of course explain why epsxe quits with a message saying it cant be found04:18
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mdasilvaapt-cache search logcheck   returns nothing04:18
bob2mdasilva: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoryHowto, it's in universe04:18
swoopanybody know how to get this file installed ?04:18
mdasilvawhat utility can i run to reselect which repositories i use?04:18
madsenHmm, I guess I could install LinCity-NG from an RPM with alien.04:19
mdasilvathanks bob04:19
Seveasswoop, it's part of glibc, and it is installed by default...04:19
bob2Seveas: no04:19
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bob2swoop: install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.204:19
bob2(it's in universe)04:19
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Seveashmm..?04:19
Seveashmm....04:20
bob2it's an old old old thing04:20
Seveasahh :004:20
bob2that proprietary binary-only software builds against04:20
Seveas:|04:20
bob2because it was in like redhat 1.0 or something04:20
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SeveasRedcrap galore once again...04:20
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swoopSeveas, hmm wierd that it complains about it being missing then04:21
Seveasswoop, it's not installed by default, listen to bob2, he's smarter than me :)04:21
thoreauputicSeveas: you're pretty high in the pecking order, though ;-)04:22
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swoopSeveas, well i did hehe.. but even after the install nothing works hehe04:22
swoopat least it doesnt complain about missing files though04:23
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swoopbob2, thanks .. got me a little further... but epsxe still doesnt have sound :(04:23
seifuhey... wondering if anyone knows to change the drive [cd]  that Ubuntu looks for when installing pkgs from the cdrom repository, i.e. my laptop has two drives, I installed ubuntu from the modular one, which isn't always in the machine, so I want to change the config, to let Ubuntu think/use the other drive as the standard when looking for pkgs from the install CD04:23
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bob2I don't know what "epsxe" is04:23
swoopPlaystation emulator bob2 ;)04:24
swoopshould be working, and it does if i disable the sound plugins04:24
thoreauputicseifu: apt-cdrom add <your CD>04:24
bob2oh04:24
naliothseifu: why not just remove the cd from consideration?04:24
j23tomwhen i tried to reinstall freenx it says: nxlibs: require: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) ale 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu1304:24
swoopbut no matter what sound plugin i use, i just get the app hanging when booting04:24
thoreauputicseifu: then coment the other one out of your list04:24
j23tomwhat can i do with tahat ?04:24
seifuthoreauputic: hmmm... k, will try that04:25
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seifunalioth: like to keep the cd there, just in case04:25
bob2j23tom: you need packages that work on ubuntu04:25
bob2j23tom: those do not04:25
odie5533How can I check how much memory/cpu cycles a process is using?04:25
bob2j23tom: or to build it from source yourself04:25
mdasilvais warty newer than hoary?04:25
bob2odie5533: top04:25
bob2mdasilva: no04:25
mdasilvahoary is new?04:25
odie5533bob2: thanks04:26
j23tomthx bob04:26
bob2odie5533: but "how much memory" is a more complex question than you think04:26
odie5533oh04:26
chrissturmswoop, did you try "killall esd" before starting it?04:26
thoreauputicmdasilva: warty came before hoary04:26
rekabob2: you wouldn't happen to know how to scroll top's output would you?04:26
swoopesd ? what is that im killing chrissturm ?04:26
bob2reka: is that possible?04:26
j23tomIs there any binary rep for ubuntu ? (with freenx)04:26
chrissturmswoop, the sound daemon, it blocks the sound device04:26
rekabob2: er, obviously not. :-)04:26
swoopWORKS !!!!!04:26
mdasilvathanks for the clarification04:26
swoopwow !04:26
swoophmmm and this doesnt affect the system after i quit the emulator ?04:27
chillywillySeveas: it is definitely something with that newer kernel because everything works fine with the older one...it hangs right before it's about to render the desktop04:27
thoreauputicgood ol' esd strikes again... :/04:27
swoopi mean do i need to restart it later on ?04:27
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Seveasthoreauputic, it's not for no reason that it'll be ditched for Breezy04:28
Juhazswoop, only if you want to hear the annoying windows-ish sound effects from gnome when clicking buttons and so on04:28
rekabob2: i'm just wondering if that is the full list... even if i maximise the terminal the list reaches the bottom.04:28
chrissturmswoop: you can just start it again with "esd &"04:28
thoreauputicSeveas: indeed04:28
bob2reka: it won't be04:28
swoopokay thanks... im running the emu from a script, so i can jus add killall esd before it runs, and then restart before quit ;)04:28
bob2reka: I don't know how to access the ones off the bottom, aside from changing the sort order04:28
swoopthanks a bunch for the help ! D04:28
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mdasilvacan anyone point me to a page that discusses what this universe multiverse thing is?04:28
swoopnow basically i have everything running on my new laptop and can enjoy learning linux through ubuntu :D04:28
Seveasmdasilva, www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components04:28
rekabob2: ok then.  i guess it's not that important anyway.04:28
nalioth!Restricted04:29
ubotuI guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats04:29
bob2reka: it'd be a good feature request, I think04:29
bob2tho I'm sure someone would have asked for that by now04:29
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rekabob2: would they bother? isn't top "mature"?04:29
naliothmdasilva: read what ubotu said about restriced04:29
bob2sure, that doesn't mean it can't have features added, tho04:30
Seveasnalioth, hmm, I don't think he meant that...04:30
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hpnadigdoes anybody know workaround for this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-39499.html ?04:31
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Seveashpnadig, yes: don't use Breezy04:31
aliciaAnyone know a good music download program for linux??04:31
bioniclimewire.com04:32
aliciais limewire free?04:32
ericzthere's a free version04:32
reka'lo bionic, how goes the gaming?04:32
hpnadigSeveas: well, I've commented out the breezy repositories now and run apt-get update... but still04:33
aliciaHas anyone ever used DC++04:33
bionicreka, havent tried anything yet, still playing q3 :p04:33
seifunalioth: cheers, worked like a charm04:33
hpnadigalicia: limewire free version is a nagware04:33
Seveashpnadig, well duh, you're already running breezy...04:33
aliciahpnadig, what's nagware?04:33
Seveasjust commenting out the breezy repositories will not magically downgrade...04:33
hpnadigalicia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagware04:34
sproingiehpnadig: that's a step up from what it used to be, which was spyware04:34
madsenUh! Anyone tried Nexuiz?04:34
bob2hpnadig: you can't downgrade, in future don't use development versions if you're not a developer04:34
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m0r0nAlthough lsof -l /mnt/callit/ prints no output, /mnt/callit is still busy when attempting to umount it. What does that mean?04:34
hpnadigbob2: ok, np. But is there a workaround for the issue?04:35
Seveasyes, reinstalling Hoary...04:35
hpnadighmm...04:35
madsenbob2: You can downgrade... I downgraded Apache and PHP on my server...04:35
madsenbob2: That was pure Debian however.04:35
Seveasmadsen, we're talking about downgrading a whole system04:35
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bob2madsen: downgrading from a broken development release to a stable one is a lot more complicated than that04:36
madsenSeveas: Oh! Sorry then...04:36
bob2hpnadig: lots of things get uninstallable in breezy04:36
bob2hpnadig: you have to wait for it to be fixed04:36
darkmantuxHi of Spain04:36
darkmantux;-)04:36
madsenbob2: Yeah, I see.. Didn't realize we were talking about an entire system... Sorry.04:36
bob2not a problem04:36
hpnadigbob2: ok.04:37
hpnadiganyways, what package is the libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.9 on the repository?04:37
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hpnadigwondering if there's a way I can install that and get to see synaptic again04:38
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bob2hpnadig: no, sorry04:38
bob2hpnadig: wtf, you let it remove synaptic?04:38
bob2if you're going to use breezy, you at the very very least check what apt wants to do04:39
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hpnadigyep, I realise that.04:40
Seveashpnadig, really, reinstall hoary...04:40
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hpnadigSeveas: maybe not, I'll try if I can come out of this issue.04:41
chrissturmhpnadig, what issue do you have?04:41
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Seveaschrissturm, a lack of clue ;)04:41
fhi everyone!04:42
SeveasNo, an apt problem in breezy...04:42
Seveashi Mr. F04:42
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Dj_AlTeKhey every104:42
hpnadigchrissturm: same as this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-39499.html04:42
thoreauputicf, your nick is too long...04:42
thoreauputic;)04:42
Seveasmuha :)04:42
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Seveastry |04:42
fI just installed Ubuntu on my Thinkpad T21. And I am feeling very good! I am new to IRC, so excuse me if I should not be speaking like this!04:42
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Seveashappy birthday!04:43
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thoreauputicf welcome :)04:43
Dj_AlTeKthanx04:43
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Seveasf, welcome to Ubuntu (and #ubuntu)04:43
fI dont know how to set my nick here .. My original nick was not accepted.04:43
Dj_AlTeKbrb gotta call my aunt04:43
shawarmaf: /nick yournewnick04:43
thoreauputicf your nick is fine ;)04:43
Dj_AlTeKtype /nick <insert nick here>04:43
BaderSeveas: should I contact mako by mail?04:43
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SeveasBader, or via IRC04:44
Seveasbut mail is better i think :)04:44
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amitabhtesting04:44
amitabhok, f is gone.04:44
Seveashehe :)04:44
thoreauputicamitabh: nope, you don't exist :)04:44
amitabh:-)04:44
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amitabhI am very excited for some reason!04:45
thoreauputicamitabh: what did you want to ask, anyway, after all that....04:45
naliothalright, time for work04:45
hpnadigchrissturm: any pointers regarding that?04:45
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thoreauputicamitabh: yeah, Ubuntu does that to people :)04:45
amitabhnothing. Just opened firefox, saw that there is a channel called ubuntu on FreeNode and came here.04:45
Seveashahaha04:45
amitabhhaha, ok. Looks like a cool distribution.04:46
nalioth_wrknamitabh just wanted to share his excitement04:46
thoreauputicamitabh: ah, I see - well that's great :)04:46
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amitabh:-)04:46
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Dj_AlTeKhey nalioth04:46
amitabhthanks guys! so long.04:47
Dj_AlTeKcya amitabh04:47
tripz__hi.. i wanna run php5 in ubuntu.. is there any inofficial packages.. or what to do?04:47
nalioth_wrknDj_AlTeK: yes?04:47
Dj_AlTeKoh nothin just saying hi04:47
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Seveastripz__, there are instructions on the wiki04:47
nalioth_wrknDj_AlTeK: alrighty then, and happy birthday to ya04:47
tripz__thanks04:48
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thoreauputicreka: we're so nice he can't drag himself away ;)04:49
thoreauputicmodest too, of course...04:49
nalioth_wrknreka: its cause you guys are so interesting (i watch screen as i get ready for work)04:49
rekathoreauputic: yes, but what percentage of us are?  statistics please. :)04:50
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cyberixIs it hard to get Ubuntu run on Hurd?04:50
thoreauputicreka: exactly 78.99423 % of us are nice04:50
thoreauputic;)04:50
cyberixWhat is the biggest reason why it can't work by just apting the kernel and choosing it when booting04:50
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reka:)04:51
sewoylhi! is there any way to get ATI 3D hardware accelleration with xorg ?04:51
Seveascyberix, Ubuntu is quite tuned to the Linux kernel...04:51
nalioth_wrkncyberix: if you get ubuntu working on the Hurd, you will be an Iron Chef04:51
jmjonessewoyl: what video card?04:51
sewoyljmjones, mobility 9700 (got it to work in ubuntu 4.10 with XFREE)04:52
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rekasewoyl:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:52
jmjonessewoyl: check out the fglrx package04:53
Choubakacyberix: yes.04:53
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rekanalioth_wrkn: hopefully not the italian one ... how come he never gets to cook?04:53
jmjonessewoyl: xorg-driver-fglrx04:53
Choubakacyberix: I would assume hurd doesn't run linux binaries :P04:53
sewoyljmjones, sweet thanks !04:53
nalioth_wrknreka: saw him cook ONCE04:53
sewoyljmjones, sorry for not searching myself :(04:53
Choubakacyberix: you'd have to port all the linux code to hurd and compile it.04:53
nalioth_wrknok guys, i'm walkin the dog and out the door04:53
rekamissed it...did he win?04:53
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jmjonessewoyl: np - you might want to check out that url that reka shot you.04:54
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sewoylreka thanks04:55
sewoylI hant notices you were two differents guys :p04:55
sewoylhandt noticed*04:55
sewoyllol hadnt04:55
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sewoylgotta reboot :)04:57
paulfoxafternoon all04:57
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jamie_kcould anyone help me do a network install onto a laptop with no optical drive? i have a machine in the same room on the network running hoary...04:58
paulfoxdoes anyone know how i can set up my webserver so that i can have an evolution calendar on there?04:58
Seveazjamie_k, search the wiki04:59
jamie_kpaulfox: i do know that webcalendar is compatible with evolution04:59
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Seveazthere is a localnetworkinstall page04:59
jamie_kSeveaz: will do, thank you very much.04:59
fetmanI need help with my DVI-D screen for xorg!04:59
paulfoxwebcalendar, i'll look it up. thanks jamie_k04:59
jamie_kSeveaz: does it sound do-able on the face of it?04:59
jamie_kpaulfox: np04:59
cyberixSo it would be better to install Debian GNU/Hurd instead of trying to make Ubuntu run on GNU/Hurd04:59
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Seveazjamie_k, yes :)05:00
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leeb`xdcci need to install ubuntu on a laptop without a cdrom drive. i only an external have a floppy drive. i found a how-to, but the howto says i need to copy the linux kernel and the ram drive to c:\boot. but the ram drive is 4,5mb, so it doesnt fit on a floppy. what can i do?05:00
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Seveazcyberix, Debian, definitely05:00
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leebcant anybody help me? :(05:05
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HowitzerI was wondering05:05
Howitzeri like to play games05:05
cbnz123just ask, maybe some1 will05:05
Howitzerand, is it safe to install games from Universe and Multiverse from synaptic?05:06
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mjrHowitzer, pretty much05:06
VjazOf course it is.05:06
RLFHello, I recently installed Windows on my second partition. Lo and behold, GRUB disappeared. Ubuntu guide helped me restore GRUB, though. Now GRUB shows up fine, except when I added a new entry for windows (hda0, 1)--location of the windows partition is /dev/hda1, but GRUBs fails to load windows and prompts various parameters and GRUB afterwards, after I select windows. Any workaround to this? thanks.05:06
VjazWell, you might end up addicted or something.05:06
Howitzerlol05:06
Howitzeri'm addicted to bzflag :D05:06
Howitzerbut ehh, how do you get your files on to synaptic thingy?05:07
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cbnz123I think that u need to install first windows and then ubuntu05:07
gpdhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallWithFloppiesHowto05:07
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gpd https://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallWithFloppiesHowto05:07
fnoywhen i try to download flash player my firefox says "XML phrasing error: not well formed"05:07
cbnz123dont know why, but thats what a lot say05:08
dedalushi i've a prob with fonts05:08
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RLFdamn, but i thought ubuntu guide mentioned otherwise05:08
RLFhmm05:08
dedalusi have too small fonts that i can't read05:08
RLFthat's a lot of work to do05:08
sewoylreka, thanks looks like it worked05:08
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RLFso not solution, at all, as far as you know, cbnz123?05:09
sewoyldedalus, you can go to the 'system' menu > 'preferences' > 'font'05:09
rekasewoyl: np05:09
RLF*no05:09
cbnz123no05:09
RLFah. crap05:09
thoreauputicRLF: I think you'll find /dev/hda1 is (0,0) in grub-speak05:09
seliniumAre there any 64bit users out there? I am considering installing it a work. Is is any better/quicker? Are there any issues unique to 64bit? Cheers :)05:09
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cbnz123you can go ask in their forums to see what they say05:09
fnoywhen i try to download flash player my fierfox says says "XML phrasing error: not well formed"05:10
mjrselinium, it works nice enough, issues have mostly to do with if you want to run proprietary 32-bit stuff05:10
yuachtselinium, i suggest u go with 32bits instead... 64bits is a bit faster but you get lots of problems with it that isn't solved yet05:10
fnoywhats wrong??05:10
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HowitzerIf you have a 64bit processor, you can only run 64bit progs smoothly? :/05:11
Ahmet_Shi all....i wanna ask something... is the l10n and i18n packages in ubuntu same with debian..Does ubuntu have Turkish l10n and i18n like debian05:11
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bob2Howitzer: if you mean "amd64" instead of "64bit", no05:11
seliniumyuacht mjr: does the 32bit install on a 64bit machine then? I am looking to run a development webserver on it.05:11
Howitzeroh oaky05:11
gpdRLF: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows05:11
bob2Howitzer: you can install the i386 port of ubuntu if you care about binary-only software05:11
RLFthoreauputic, i tried (0,0), but it loads Ubuntu instead05:11
SeveazAhmet_S, yes...05:11
mjrselinium, it does install05:11
mjrselinium, though, hmh, for a devel webserver I don't see much issues with the 64-bit version, but maybe you use some exotic stuff05:12
thoreauputicRLF: ah, Ok then you meant hda2 for windows, i guess ?05:12
Howitzerbut is an AMD64 faster then a regular 32bit?, if so, why?, if not, what is the point then?05:12
bob2Howitzer: yes, it is05:12
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bob2Howitzer: part of it is becase in 64-bit mode an amd64 has a lot more registers05:12
Howitzeroh05:12
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sewoyl.... too hot here in Belgium .... ... ...05:13
Howitzerso i can do a lot more things at the same time?05:13
Howitzerlol05:13
bob2Howitzer: no05:13
Howitzeri live in Belgium as well05:13
rekasewoyl: it's freezing here. :)05:13
HowitzerAntwerp=@34c05:13
sewoylhi Howitzer :)05:13
RLFthoreauputic, yeah, hda2 is windows. gpd, I'll check the link out, although i'm trying to recover windows after recovering ubuntu :P05:13
sewoylHowitzer, ooh only 29 in my room!05:13
seliniummjr: no anything exotic... just the usual apache php mysql with a few mods like GD05:14
Howitzerlol sew05:14
seliniumhi thoreauputic:  :)05:14
Howitzersewoyl, with the pc, it's 35c here :'(05:14
thoreauputicselinium: greetings, selinium :)05:14
sewoylHowitzer, cant wait till i get that 'fan plate' I bought for my laptop, its almost melting05:14
Howitzerlol05:14
seliniummjr yuacht: thanks for your advice!05:14
Howitzeroeh05:15
Howitzerdamn05:15
Howitzerneed to go05:15
mjrselinium, I wouldn't be wary of the 64-bit version then, but YMMV05:15
HowitzerBye all!05:15
mjrsure05:15
seliniummjr: YMMV ? FLA's not my strongest point!05:15
thoreauputicselinium: Your Mileage May VAry05:16
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seliniumcheers thoreauputic LOL :)05:16
Dj_AlTeKhey ne1 here know where i can get libicu28-dev?05:16
phinnaeuscan someone help me find the file wkdev.sh? i am trying to set up lm sensors05:16
bob2phinnaeus: http://packages.ubuntu.com/05:17
phinnaeusthat was easy05:17
bob2Dj_AlTeK: why?05:17
bob2Dj_AlTeK: and it's in ubuntu05:17
seliniummjr: I assume there are different repositories then? for 64bit...05:17
Dj_AlTeKbob2: im trying to compile wine05:17
bob2Dj_AlTeK: wine is in ubuntu, too05:17
phinnaeusohhh my bad05:18
phinnaeusit isnt wkdev it is mkdev.sh05:18
bob2you don't need to make device nodes05:18
bob2udev will do it for you when the lm_sensors modules are loaded05:18
bob2unless they're buggy05:18
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mjrselinium, different architecture directory on the repositories, yes05:18
mjrselinium, should be quite transparent05:18
mjrselinium, of course, if you use some extra repos, they might not provide amd6405:19
phinnaeusi am following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278005:19
seliniummjr: Thanks again for your help! :)05:19
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yuachtselinium, np05:20
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JimmothyW: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian-marillat_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)05:25
fefewhat is the name for samba's autoconfig tool?05:25
Jimmothyapt-get seems to have become broken05:25
slipjigI've installed ssh-server, but I can't get into this box from others on the network.  I'm getting "Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive)".  Any clues as to what I should check?05:26
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bob2Jimmothy: a) those packages don't work on ubuntu, b) "sudo apt-get update"05:26
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gpdRFL: you need root (hd0,1) not (hda0,1) possibly05:27
Jimmothywhen running sudo apt-get update it errors at the end and says i should apt-get update to fix05:27
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Jimmothyso i'm kind of stuck05:28
dan_we al are05:28
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thoreauputicJimmothy: I think the nerim/marillat repos have changed the naming, but in any case you shouldn't use Marillat any more05:28
Jimmothyis there a file i can change to correct it?05:29
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eriepaIs there anyway to download packages for Ubuntu on a windows machine and install them on linux machine via a cd?05:29
thoreauputicJimmothy: just comment it out in /etc/apt/sources.list  - what packages do you need from MArillat? They are probably available elsewhere05:30
justinJimmothy: W is for WARNING not ERROR05:30
bob2fefe: do you mean swat?05:30
colmoreHello, has anyone here had success setting up Ubuntu on a tablet PC with a Wacom digitizer?  I have a new Toshiba R10, and I'd love to get my Gimp on...05:30
bob2fefe: and leave #debian05:31
fefebob2: ok..05:31
fefebob2: any idea about the name?05:31
bob201:30:35           bob2 | fefe: do you mean swat?05:31
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fefebob2: no05:32
bob2I'd be surprised if the debian and ubuntu source packages differed very much05:32
Jimmothyas always, thank you :)05:32
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Dj_AlTeKhey how do i get the config file for wine??05:32
Dj_AlTeKcuz i cant find it in ~/usr/bin05:32
colmorethere's a separate config package for wine, did you download that?05:33
bob2Dj_AlTeK: no config file is ever going to be in there05:33
Dj_AlTeKbob2: where is it gonna be then?05:33
rekaDj_AlTeK: it wouldn't be.  iirc /usr/bin holds executables05:33
bob2Dj_AlTeK: /etc/05:33
Dj_AlTeKcolmore: i used synaptic05:33
bob2assuming you installed the Ubuntu package05:33
bob2if you mean your user config, then ~/.wine/05:33
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Dj_AlTeKbob2: i used synaptic to install wine05:33
syndthank god for lawyers05:33
colmoreright, in synaptic there's a package called winesetuptk05:34
colmoremenu based config for wine, did you get that as well?05:34
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Dj_AlTeKcolmore: i didnt see it when i searched wine05:35
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Dj_AlTeKcolmore: dont i have to add a repository for that??05:35
rekasynd: i'm intrigued.  have you been arrested? :-)05:35
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colmorepossibly, i've turned on all repositories on mine05:35
syndreka, i was about a month ago. spend the night in jail. class D felony charge and a misdemeanor05:36
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colmoreactually bob2 was right, go to your home directory cd .wine05:36
Dj_AlTeKcolemore: should i download this winesetuptk file: winesetuptk_0.7-1.1_i386.deb05:36
syndtoday was my final court hearing05:36
odysseycan anyone suggest and easy to podcast client that has a gui?05:37
colmorethere's a file in that hidden folder called "config"05:37
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rekasynd: mind me askng what you did?05:37
Dj_AlTeKcolmore: should i download this winesetuptk file: winesetuptk_0.7-1.1_i386.deb05:38
thoreauputicDj_AlTeK: stop thinking in terms of downloads of individual files: if you  can't find it in synaptic you need extra repositories05:38
thoreauputicDj_AlTeK: what does ` apt-cache search winesetuptk ` say?05:39
Dj_AlTeKshould i run that as root?05:39
thoreauputicno05:39
colmoreyeah, use synaptic, things get hectic if you don't05:39
Dj_AlTeKi mean in root terminal or in user terminal thoreauputic05:39
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colmoreok so sorry to pester, but again, has anyone had any luck getting a tablet PC with a Wacom digitizer to work with ubuntu?05:40
thoreauputicDj_AlTeK: normal or root, doesn't matter - it is only a search05:40
colmore(yes i've read through the linuxwacom howtos)05:40
TokenBadif used wine or cedega to install a game...how do you uninstall it?05:40
thoreauputicDj_AlTeK: BTW it's in universe05:40
bob2colmore: better off asking on the mailing list05:40
Dj_AlTeKthoreauputic: i dont get any response when i search05:40
colmoreheh, i have, i'm just impatient05:41
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thoreauputicDj_AlTeK: then you need to add repositories05:41
dinhow do i disable gdm in ubuntu?05:41
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thoreauputic!repositories05:41
uboturumour has it, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto05:41
syndreka, crim possession of a forged instrument (fake ID), and driving on a suspended license05:41
thoreauputicDj_AlTeK: ubotu tells you above05:41
Dj_AlTeKi mean i already know how to add repositories, i just need to know which ones05:41
colmoreok, well, more specifically, is anyone familiar with the setserial command?05:41
thoreauputicDj_AlTeK: universe in this case05:42
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Dj_AlTeKhey there Seveas05:42
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dindoes no one know? :)05:43
Seveasdin, wouldn't know, what's the problem :)05:43
rekasynd: ah, sorry.  i'm a nosy bastard aren't i? :-)05:44
dini want to disable gdm on boot05:44
eriepaIs it easy to compile packages on Ubuntu?05:44
Seveasdin, update-rc.d -f remove gdm05:44
dinit's terribly annoying05:44
Seveaseriepa, yes05:44
syndreka, haha its ok. its public info anyway : )05:44
colmoreDj_AlTeK, could it hurt to add them all?05:44
lcdddin: change the default runlevel05:44
dinSeveas, cool, thx05:44
Seveasdin, update-rc.d -f gdm remove05:45
Seveasmy mistake :)05:45
dinyeah, i got it05:45
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thoreauputiclcdd: no on debian distros you have only 1 and 2 as runlevels to play with so changing the runlevel isn't the answer here05:46
dini installed ubuntu on my desktop at work, and i must say, I love it.05:46
thoreauputiclcdd: graphical runlevel is 205:46
Seveaseriepa, please ask before starting a private conversation... And asking in the channel is generally better since there are more smart people in here ...05:46
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lcddthoreauputic: why is that?05:47
eriepaSorry there Seveas. Your the only one in 7 channels who has answered a single question.05:47
thoreauputiclcdd: I didn't design the distro so I don't know :)05:47
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Seveaslol :)05:48
thoreauputiclcdd: but that's how it works05:48
Seveaseriepa, well you can easily download packages on another machine and transfer them to your ubuntu machine...05:48
thoreauputiclcdd: type `runlevel` and you'll see it's 205:48
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A[D] minSking tk build dir... using tk library in /usr/lib05:49
A[D] minS./configure: line 3156: /usr/lib/tkConfig.sh: No such file or directory05:49
A[D] minSchecking*05:49
eriepaHow can I do that Seveas?05:49
Seveaseriepa, you can download them via packages.ubuntu.com05:50
eriepareally?05:50
SeveasA[D] minS, install tcl8.4-dev05:50
Seveasor better: tk-dev05:50
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A[D] minStcl8.4-dev is already the newest version.05:51
A[D] minS0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 25 not upgraded05:51
Seveastk-dev then :)05:51
A[D] minSok tk-dev05:51
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A[D] minSthx Seveas05:51
A[D] minS:)05:51
TokenBadif used wine or cedega to install a game...how do you uninstall it?05:52
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_dwHi. How can I tell xorg to use "Generic", instead of its attempt to use the vendor...05:54
Seveasset it correctly in xorg.conf ..?05:55
rancorusI am trying to use gtkpod-aac but everytime I want to write a song in the mp4 format it asks me to compile the mp4v2 library. Is there any way I can do that ?05:55
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_dwSeveas: if I just replace "SyncMaster" (that's what it has), with "Generic", x doesn't start up05:56
Seveasrancorus: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support05:56
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Seveas_dw, hmm, then you must remove the SyncMaster specific entries too05:56
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Seveasmaybe dplg-reconfigure xserver-xorg can help you there05:56
Seveasdpkg-reconfigure05:56
_dwAh, of course. Thanks.05:57
_dwwill do now05:57
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Dj_AlTeKthoreauputic: i updated my repositories05:58
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Dj_AlTeKshould i download winesetuptk now?05:58
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thoreauputicDj_AlTeK: have you done ` sudo apt-get update ` ?05:58
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rancorusSeveas: Those pages gives you info on how to create aac formats but nothing on the library05:59
cyberixIf I connect to IPv6 services trought freenet605:59
thoreauputicDj_AlTeK: if so, try installing winesetuptk, yes05:59
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Dj_AlTeKthoreauputic: yea and i searched for winesetuptk in synaptic i find it05:59
cyberixShould I setup my server to use sit interface?05:59
bob2cyberix: "server"?05:59
thoreauputicDj_AlTeK: OK you should be good to go then05:59
Dj_AlTeKthoreauputic: should i use terminal or synaptic to download winesetuptk?06:00
eriepaSeveas Thank you.06:00
eriepaSeveas: That is exactly what I was looking for.06:00
thoreauputicDj_AlTeK: whatever you prefer06:00
Dj_AlTeKok06:00
Dj_AlTeKthanx thoreauputic06:00
thoreauputicDj_AlTeK: synaptic is just the front-end for apt06:00
Dj_AlTeKok06:01
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Dj_AlTeKi have it installed now06:01
Dj_AlTeKnow what do i do?06:01
thoreauputiccool06:01
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cyberixbob2: Gnunet node in this case06:01
slashzulhow do you set a static ip and hostname on a new ubuntu install06:02
cyberixbob2: One that would want to communicate trought IPv606:02
rekathoreauputic: how long have you been using ubuntu/debian-based distros06:02
thoreauputicDj_AlTeK: heh - run it? I haven't used it but probably wineset <tab> will complete to the commnad06:02
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bob2cyberix: just make it listen on all interfaces, I'd say06:02
thoreauputicreka: about 2 and a half years06:02
bob2slashzul: edit /etc/network/interfaces06:02
bob2slashzul: hostname is harder, but mostly /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts06:02
thoreauputicreka: I'm no guru06:02
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thoreauputicreka: bob2 is a guru ;) I'm just an obsessive luser ;)06:03
serjis reiser the fastest fs?06:03
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Ridehey all06:04
rekathoreauputic: ah i see.  it was just that "*thoreauputic is used to apt now" sounded like you had only recently "switched" to apt from synaptic06:04
rekanot that synaptic isn't useful :-)06:04
colmorehey, new question, any way to get wine to stop treating my mouse like a jittery poorly configured joystick?06:04
Dj_AlTeKhey thoreauputic should i use managed, unmanaged or desktop for wine?06:04
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thoreauputicreka: no, I started with apt, and synaptic is actually harder for me06:05
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thoreauputicDj_AlTeK: I know nothing about wine, sorry06:05
thoreauputicwell, not the software kind, anyway...06:05
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bluefoxicyhtf does init work06:05
Dj_AlTeKok06:05
bluefoxicyit sends all processes term, kill06:05
bluefoxicythen starts telling processes to shut down06:05
bluefoxicyaren't they all shut down after getting term/kill?06:06
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chinatshuang06:08
Dj_AlTeKhey does anyone know how to use winetools?06:08
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joachimhi06:09
chinathi06:09
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chinatDj_AlTeK, apt-get install wine06:09
Nightcr8wgreetings everyone06:09
Nightcr8wquestion for all06:09
Nightcr8whow do I get the matrix screensaver working06:09
Dj_AlTeKchinat: i already have wine installed06:09
chinatwine <program you want to run>06:09
Nightcr8wonly a few handful work06:09
joachimI've found a package that is in the wrong section of the Ubuntu repo -- what's the right thing to do? file a bug in ubuntu?06:09
Nightcr8wbut not all06:09
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krod# ls /etc/login.conf06:10
krodls: /etc/login.conf: No such file or directory06:10
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krodwhoops wrong room.06:10
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rekaNightcr8w: define "won't work".06:10
zookoGreetings, People of #ubuntu!  I have recently switched back from firefox to galeon, and now I am wondering how to get all my plugins connected again.  xpdf, xmms, etc.06:10
chinatDj_AlTeK, if you want a GUI plz install winex06:10
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Nightcr8wreka: In gnome - I can select several screensavers to work and they do but there are a few who do not have a preview and gives you only a blank screen when running06:11
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Dj_AlTeKchinat: apt-get install winex?06:11
chinatDj_AlTeK,  yes06:11
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Ahmet_Shi.. i wanna ask:what are the real differences between debian sid and ubuntu?Real differences i mean.. except community.. tools?others?06:11
rekaNightcr8w: most of those take a snapshot of your current desktop iirc.  you need to enable "grab desktop images" in the advanced section.06:12
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chinatDj_AlTeK, why not do a "apt-cache search XXX" before you install ?06:12
Dj_AlTeKand one last question, if i were to install winex would it uninstall wine?06:12
Nightcr8wreka: gotcha..let me try that out and thanks06:12
Dj_AlTeKah forgot about that cmd chinat06:12
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chinatDj_AlTeK, apt-cache search wine -n        will list program with name include "wine"06:13
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mjrAhmet_S, ubuntu has a lesser amount of fully supported packages and architectures, but there's some newer packages, especially desktop-related, and fine tuning06:13
EiGHTBALLxhi06:13
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reka:)06:13
EiGHTBALLxhow do install all dev packages (make gcc g++ etc) into ubuntu at once?06:14
rekasudo apt-get install build-essential06:14
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emilio/say $ip06:14
EiGHTBALLxthank you very much ;-)06:14
thoreauputicreka: beat me that time ;)06:15
EiGHTBALLxits asking for a password!06:15
rekathoreauputic: you're easy. it's seveas you have to watch out for. :-)06:15
EiGHTBALLxi dont know one06:15
Dj_FlyBy[M] im lovin this new Ubuntu06:15
thoreauputicreka: hehe06:15
Ahmet_Smjr, i need net answers.. Newer packages you said? Newer than sid? Fine tuning? Give examples06:15
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zookoHrm.  Maybe I should follow the instruction for how to install plugins for Mozilla/Firefox?06:15
zookoxmms and xpdf Just Worked with firefox.  What do I do to make them work with galeon?  Hm...06:16
Ahmet_Smjr: of course: what more ? tools...06:16
EiGHTBALLxsorry... it works now!06:16
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rekazooko: maybe something with preferences?  afaik xpdf and xmms don't have browser plugins.  i've always set them up to do auto-open when a mp3 or pdf file is clicked on.06:17
zookoOh.  That's my problem.  I'm saying "plugin" when what I really want is the old "handle this file type with this executable" configuration.06:18
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Ahmet_S, i need net answers.. Newer packages you said? Newer than sid? Fine tuning? Give examples06:18
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zookoreka: How do you tell galeon to use xmms to handle .ogg files?06:19
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zookoCool!  In the meantime I accidentally got mozplugger to work.06:19
zookoBut that still doesn't help with .oggs.06:19
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thoreauputicAhmet_S: everyone in here needs answers - some  people even wait for them06:19
joachimhow do I make nautilus refresh to find new scripts?06:19
rekazooko: i actually reckons you should set it up by selecting an ogg file in nautilus and then do right-click->properties->open with.  then choose xmms as default.  that should do it.06:20
tyanjoachim,  killall nautilus and it will restart automatic06:20
joachimthx06:20
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A[D] minSwhat i have to install to load TkCximage ?06:21
Dj_AlTeKhey i installed wine but now it says wine: command not found06:21
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Ahmet_Sthoreauputic:me too. Because i will choose ubuntu or debian. i was formerly a debian user and ubuntu was suggested to me. But i need the differences between them06:21
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zookoreka: Thanks for the suggestion.  Since I don't use nautilus, though, I'll have to figure out what it does under the hood when you do that...06:21
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blake__hellow can someone help me i am haveing trouble with a reposotory loging in that ubuntu's web site gave me06:21
rekazooko: you're using gnome though right?06:21
zookoreka: Well, not really.06:21
zookoI'm using galeon, but my "desktop" is ratpoison, bash, xemacs...06:22
a2psin your opinion what is better for video playing? videolan or mplayer? i want a player that supports the maximum types of codecs and containers, windows media video, quicktime, H.264, dvd, xvid, divx, etc06:22
DaveyGaleon crashes for me everytime I try to open up the preferences window :/06:22
zookoI figure that properties->open with. thing must edit a text config file somewhere...06:22
blake__i added the reposotory but one of them sais log in failed06:22
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zookoDavey: I'm using galeon right now and I can open the preferences window.06:22
zookoI'm using galeon from breezy.06:22
blake__and the other one logsin06:23
zookoa2ps: I like mplayer.  Haven't tried videolan.06:23
blake__i got the adress from ubuntu06:23
a2psdoes mplayer support H.264 ?06:23
thoreauputicAhmet_S: one difference is the 6 month release cycle06:23
spiderwormhey all, in text editors in ubuntu/gnome, when i select multiple lines and press tab, i expect that it would tab out all the lines, but instead it replaces the line with a tab.  i cant find an option in any of the editors im using, and am wondering if maybe there's a global option somewhere to make it so that it would tab out the lines in all editors...06:23
rekazooko: i'll leave it to you.  my knowledge ends at that nautilus step. :)06:23
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zookoreka: okay, thanks.  :-/06:24
Nightcr8wthanks for the help reka06:24
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Nightcr8wlater06:24
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rekaNightcr8w: did it work?06:24
zookoa2ps: I don't know about H.264, but I have the impression that mplayer supports all possible formats.06:24
zookoI'll get googling for mplayer h.264 will tell you...06:24
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Nightcr8wreka: that was one part06:24
Nightcr8wreka: I also had to run "http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2455706:24
Ahmet_Sthoreauputic:well... if i use sid.. there is no newer release.. so no need of releases.. apt-get dist upgrade rulez! what more can you tell about ubuntu06:25
Nightcr8wopps06:25
Seveasspiderworm, wy would you expect this behaviour?06:25
Nightcr8wreka: I also had to change my driver from nv to nvidia06:25
Nightcr8wand it got it working06:25
Seveasno editor that I know does this...06:25
rekaspiderworm: what do you expect when you select lines and press a character.  the option to auto-tab is usually in an editor's preferences06:25
spiderwormSeveas: are you joking me?  ever used an html editor?06:25
Seveasspiderworm, several..06:25
spiderwormSeveas: than im surprised you would ask me that06:25
thoreauputicAhmet_S: if you are happy with Debian, stick with it - I used it for 2 years and it's a great distro06:25
Seveason linux,mac and windows..06:25
spiderwormwindows, and kde06:26
joachimok, I've put some scripts in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts and I've refreshed Nautilus, but I still don't see the scripts menu. what am I doing wrong?06:26
rekaNightcr8w: ah i see.  good work.06:26
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SeveasIf you select text and hit a random character, all editors will replace the selected text with the character...06:26
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thoreauputicAhmet_S: It isn't a competition - you're welcome to use either :)06:26
litzlairtaczh06:26
joachimoh hang on06:26
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joachimmaybe they're not executable06:26
spiderwormbut regardless, i need the functionality.  gedit doesnt have the option, bluefish doesnt, screem doesnt and wont save files anyways for some reason...06:26
spiderwormit's really slowing me down06:27
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Seveasspiderworm, insert the tabs at the correct time: when you write the line06:27
justinspiderworm: what does "tab out all the lines" even MEAN in the first place?06:27
Seveasauto-indent is an option in most editors06:27
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Seveasjustin, I assume insert tabs at the beginning...06:27
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peterlyberthi06:28
Seveashello06:28
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Seveasthat was a short visit :D06:28
joachimthere's no way to rename a file by just clicking the name is there>06:28
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spiderwormSeveas: you sound like an idiot.  what if i'm not the person that created the files in the first place.  what if the client needs something changed and i have to enclose a large chunk of code in another set of tabs.06:28
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Seveasjoachim, right click -> rename06:29
joachimyeah, got that06:29
spiderwormSeveas: if the option doesnt exist, just say it doesnt exist06:29
spiderwormnot hard06:29
joachimI meant just by clicking the name, like on other GUIs06:29
Seveasspiderworm, don't just insult people06:29
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spiderwormSeveas: back at ya06:29
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iratsu_gtkpod-aac should be able to import m4a files, right?06:29
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chrissturmhmm, how can i downgrade a package?06:30
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Seveaschrissturm, aptitude install packagename=version06:30
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nibshi06:32
nibsi'm new with ubuntu06:32
nibsi have an AMD6406:32
nibsmust i install 64bit version or x86?06:32
lcddnibs: both work06:32
nibsi've read that 64bits has less packages than x8606:34
zookonibs: I'm happy with 64 bit Ubuntu.06:34
bob2that's not really true06:34
zookoThe only limitations I encounter are either non-free packages (which I can work-around by installing 32-bit libs) or specialty things like valgrind.06:34
bob2if you don't care about binary junk, you're fine06:34
nibsdo you use eclipse/apache2/mysql/php5?06:35
bob2oh, and valgrind06:35
bob2php5 isn't in ubuntu anyway06:35
zookonibs: yes eclipse, apache2, mysql all work fine06:35
nibsok06:35
zookohaven't actually used mysql though.06:35
nibsand about repositories06:36
nibsi will only need standard?06:36
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nibsand about flash players?06:37
zookonibs: not sure about flash players.06:37
bob2if you need binary junk, use i38606:37
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bob2that includes the non-free flash plugin06:37
zookoOkay, I've figured out that what I want is *not* "plugins" but "helper applications".  Can anyone tell me how to configure helper applications in galeon?06:37
chrissturmanyone using the pango 1.9 packages with breezy?06:38
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nibsok, thanks06:39
Dj_AlTeKhey how can i get .dll's that ive downloaded in .zip into a folder where i dont have permission to write to?06:40
rekachrissturm: if you're experiencing problems, i'd ask if you've read the topic yet.06:40
CheticIs there an Ubuntu package for effectv? I'm in Windows at the moment..06:41
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iratsu_gtkpod-aac should be able to import m4a files, right?06:41
rekaChetic: yep06:41
thoreauputicDj_AlTeK: sudo cp sourcefile destination/directory/06:41
justinChetic: packages.ubuntu.com06:41
bob2Dj_AlTeK: cd /usr/lib/win32 ; sudo unzip /path/to/w32codecs.zip06:42
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Dj_AlTeKthanx thoreauputic06:42
Cheticreka, Really? :D That's extremly awesome, thanks06:42
Cheticjustin, oh I wasn't aware of that, thanks06:42
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zookoAh, here is the thread for me. http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=6908516&forum_id=619906:42
chrissturmreka: thx06:42
thoreauputicDj_AlTeK: after you copy them you can delete the sourcefile, of course06:42
lcddis it possible to use the non-free flashplugin on amd64 if i recompile web browser(s) for 32bit arch?06:42
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thoreauputicDj_AlTeK: you could have used the mv command actually, sorry about that06:43
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bob2lcdd: that's not how it works06:44
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bob2lcdd: you can make an ubuntu i386 chroot and just install and run packages normally in there, if you really care06:44
A[D] minSamsn06:44
A[D] minSPicture.tcl: TkCximage not loaded........ how i can load it?06:44
bob2lcdd: or maybe the i386 firefox .tar.gz from mozilla.org will run with ia32-libs installed06:44
bob2A[D] minS: you know amsn is in ubuntu, pre-compiled, right?06:44
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A[D] minSyes06:45
lcddbob2: it's not that i need it, but i'll try the easiest way anyway06:46
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jamie_khello all again: is it acutally possible to do  a network install *without any disk other than primary hard disk* on the target machine?06:47
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bob2sure06:48
bob2assuming your hardware can PXEboot06:48
bob2modern ibm laptops and desktops can06:48
bob2so can new world macs (afaik)06:48
jamie_kbob2: hardware can pxe06:48
bob2then it's easy06:49
zookoOkay!  The answer to my problem was: "sudo debfoster desktop-file-utils".06:49
bob2install tftpd-hpa and a dhcp server on another machine06:49
zookoThanks, everyone!  Now galeon is passing files to the appropriate helper apps.06:49
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bob2drop the netboot stuff in /var/lib/tftpboot/06:49
bob2boot and enjoy06:49
bob2oh, after configuring the dhcp server, true06:49
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jamie_kbob2: page that describes this is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//NetbootInstallHowto?06:50
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jamie_kbob2: so the part about 'building the etherboot floppy' is not necessary if your machine has pxe natively?06:50
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dorrisHi, anyone got a hand to offer a struggling user06:51
bob2yup06:51
dorrisJust got an acer travelmate 8103 today06:52
dorriswas all excited, until I got the hoary cd out06:52
dorrisand it jams at "Uncompressing linux... OK, booting kernel" in stage 1 of install06:52
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jamie_kbob2: thx a mill06:52
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dorristried running with noapic, and nolapic, and vga=771 (Ithink was the num), it the booted, and after cd-rom detection, gave a striped screen, and got no further06:53
bob2dorris: nothing else prints at all?06:53
dorrisnope06:54
bob2are you sure the cd burnt ok?06:54
dorrisits been installed on several of my pc's already06:55
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dorrisati X700 graphics06:56
dorrisif that helps06:56
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bob2very odd06:57
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justindorris: hit f1,f2,f3 etc until you see the one that talks about boot options...06:58
justindorris: one of them is like debian-installer/framebuffer=false or something, use that06:58
dorrislet me try06:58
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dorrisany other ideas07:02
[TD] Pornohttp://www.monstersgame.de/?ac=vid&vid=899707:02
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Seveastss07:02
xiaomaihow does one go about getting a debian package into the ubuntu repositories?07:02
bob2xiaomai: it should happen automatically atm07:03
Seveasxiaomai, most of them are..07:03
bob2let me check07:03
Seveaswhich package?07:03
xiaomaiSeveas, chewing07:03
xiaomaiSeveas, chewing-scim libchewing, etc07:03
Tomcat_What automounting system does Ubuntu use?07:03
Seveashmm, apt-cache search shows nothing07:03
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bob2Tomcat_: gnome-volume-manager07:04
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Seveasadd it to UniverseCandidates on the wiki then with your motivation on why it should be included :)07:04
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xiaomaihaha, ok  thanks07:04
Tomcat_Thanks bob2.07:04
bob2pretty sure it's still autosyncing07:04
bob2we'll find out if this package I'm going to uplaod to sid makes it into breezy tommorwo07:05
Seveas:)07:05
Seveasit's still autosyncing07:05
Seveasbut maybe it's ftbfs?07:05
bob2tawt so07:05
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x_orHow do I set the hostname with Ubuntu?  Edit /etc/hostname, run the hostname program, or modify another configuration file?07:06
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andrreestoy tratando de configurar una vpn me puede alguien ayudar07:06
bob2you can't, in general07:06
xiaomaix_or, yeah07:06
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bob2well, you can, but not simply07:06
bob2edit /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname07:06
xiaomaix_or, run hostname -F /etc/hostname after you edit the file07:06
bob2then grep /etc/ for the old one07:06
Seveaslibchewing builds on breezy07:07
Seveasbut i don't see chewing07:07
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Seveasmaybe it's simply in the scim package?07:07
xiaomaiSeveas, sorry, it might just be libchewing, chewing-data, and chewing-scim07:07
xiaomaiSeveas, yeah...07:07
coolkevok i need to know how i can make a torrent07:07
coolkevin linux07:07
xiaomaiSeveas, i can dpkg install the plain old deb on Hoary too07:07
Seveaswell, there are no packages starting with chewing07:07
coolkevwhats a program07:07
Seveaseven in breezy07:07
xiaomai*libchewing-data (sorry)07:08
bob2coolkev: presumably btmakemetafile07:08
goldfish_hey guys, i want to connect to my linux desktop, via a windows envirnment through vnc, what do i need to install on the ubuntu side of things?07:08
xiaomaiSeveas, you say that it's already in breezy? does that mean i shouldn't add it to the wiki?07:08
Seveasindeed :)07:09
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xiaomaicool07:10
devianthello07:10
deviantguys, i have a masquerade problem07:10
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psirixis there anyway to find out what packages are available to download for apt-get?07:10
psirixi need xml parser and can't find it07:10
crazyhorsedeviant, you arent a vampire, are you? ;)07:10
Seveasdeviant, then don't dress up ;)07:10
djm62psirix: apt-cache search xml07:11
jagocan any one help to configure a vpn07:11
psirixthanks07:11
devianthehe, funny07:11
djm62psirix: or use the search in synaptic07:11
Seveassorry, it's too warm to stay serious in here :)07:11
psirixwhere can i find synaptic?07:11
Seveaspsirix, system -> administration -> synaptic package manager07:11
devianti`ve added this rule to iptables: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE07:12
deviant , but i still don`t have internet connection from that machine07:12
deviantany sugestions ?07:12
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Seveasyou need 2 rules in the POSTROUTING table07:13
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debuggerhi07:13
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joachimanyone using liferea?07:13
thoreauputicjoachim: yes07:14
Seveasdeviant, mind if i /msg you?07:14
psirixthanks djm62 and seveas07:14
deviantSeveas: not at all07:14
crazyhorsedeviant, echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward07:15
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deviantcrazyhorse: permision denied07:16
Seveasooh, good one...07:16
Seveassudo echo ...07:16
crazyhorsedeviant, sudo...07:16
thoreauputicI think he'll have to use tee07:17
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Seveascrap, indeed :)07:17
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deviantcrazyhorse: doesen`t work dude07:17
Seveasecho 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward07:17
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thoreauputicright07:18
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joachimwhat does "now" mean next to a version in synaptic?07:18
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crazyhorsearr yes right Seveas07:18
deviantcrazyhorse: 107:18
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Seveasdeviant, that's ok07:19
crazyhorseyep07:19
dorrisso, bob2/justin, anyone else got an idea? for travelmate 8104?07:19
Seveasnow it should work with the correct masquerades rules07:19
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crazyhorsedeviant, you need to reapply the echo after every reboot07:19
deviantSeveas: here is the rule: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE07:19
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thoreauputicdorris: just a shot in the dark - maybe you could try a "server" install , tehn try to install X and ubuntu-desktop etc ?07:20
thoreauputicdorris: if that can get you past the boot up problems...07:20
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tuxtheslackerhello.07:20
deviantok, it is working07:20
deviantnow, somebody can tell me what the hell that echo 1 stuff does?07:21
crazyhorsedeviant, fine ;)07:21
skel__lalalalal07:21
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dabarhi, anyone have a clue how ZI could find out why on this particular install of Warty>HOary, I am totally having an unstable gnome, its all crashing, gaim just closed on me, I had trouble with xmms freezing even after setting up esd(when I killed esd, and restard\ted it, restarted xmss, now it works) So basically, can I find out wtf it is so unstable?(it used to be fine on other installas.07:22
tuxtheslackerhas anoyne managed to get the ndiswrapper working under ubuntu wiht a broadcom  BCM430907:22
crazyhorsedeviant, it makes your machine allowing ip forwarding at all07:22
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tuxtheslackercuz when I try to install ndiswrapper, it tells me to go away. It throws up error 2, and tells me it doesn't find a dir.07:22
bob2dorris: I don't, sorry.  try asking on mailing list maybe?  and if it doesn't work, please do file a bug; breezy should have TOTALLY AWESOME(tm) laptop support.07:22
dorriswill try07:22
djm62dabar: is it just gnome?07:23
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thoreauputicbob2: do you think a bare-bones install might work, followed by ubuntu-desktop etc as I suggested? Or is the problem deeper than I thought?07:24
dabarDUnno, have not tried. Also it freezes up every time when I do sudo mount /dev/hda2 /whatever, that partition seems to be broken, but the whole system completely freezes w3hen I mount it, I have to cold reboot.07:24
bob2thoreauputic: it might work07:24
thoreauputichmm07:24
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dabarSo, you guys think there is a way to find out? I really did nothing special so far.07:25
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jagoI need help can one told how to install a openvpn?07:26
dabarMeaninng, Ive installed epiphany, xmms, mplayer, xine-ui, proftpd, I think bitchx, thats it.07:26
thoreauputicdabar: do you/ did you have any 3rd party repos like marillat on warty?07:26
bob2dabar: does it affect other users?07:26
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dabarno, I dont, neither.07:26
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dabarbob2, so far only user, should I try that?07:26
bob2jago: just install the package like you would any other...07:26
bob2dabar: yes07:27
thoreauputicdabar: OK just a check...07:27
djm62dabar: is there any way to get your data off the system?  it might be interesting to find out, but it might take longer than installing hoary freshly07:27
tuxtheslackeranyone use ndiswrapper?07:27
psai_how can i listen to podcast rss seeds with ubuntu07:27
dabarok, Ill do that right now. Maybe it was a fluke with the gaim, and a little initial confusion with bmp and xmms.07:27
djm62psai_: you can use ipodder07:27
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dabardjm62: what do you mean get data off the system?07:27
dabarI can reinstall without damaging data(partitions).07:28
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djm62dabar: oh, cool...just to be on the safe side07:28
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psai_djm62 : is there a package in universe or multiverse ?07:28
dabaryeah, it worked out for the first time so far that I was able to just reinstall my OSs, and not damage any data.07:28
dabarok, Im gonna wait to see if anything else crashes, and then try another user. THanks.07:29
nlivemxwhat i have to do to install xmms because i get that msg whan using apt-get "This may mean that the package is missing.."?07:29
thoreauputicnlivemx: enable the universe repository07:29
nlivemxand how? :}07:29
thoreauputic!repositories07:30
uboturepositories is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto07:30
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nlivemxty07:30
thoreauputicnlivemx: ^^^^07:30
djm62psai_: sadly not07:30
nlivemxive just instaled ubuntu.. dun laugh :}07:30
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thoreauputicnlivemx: welcome to Ubuntu then :)07:30
nlivemx;}07:30
skel__:007:30
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skel__congrats07:30
skel__i am 1 week ubuntu liver07:30
skel__:P07:31
psai_djm62: i'm trying the source package , thx anyway07:31
tuxtheslackeranyone?07:31
jagoI have done intalling the package from openvpn but whats next07:31
skel__whats the newest reportioies list07:32
skel__that i can add to my sources list07:32
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jagoI dont now how to followed the next steps in the web page07:33
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xiaomaiskel__, what do you mean--breezy?07:33
skel__i guess07:33
skel__in snayticv07:33
skel__snaytic(07:33
thoreauputicskel__: umm - don't add breezy07:34
xiaomaiskel__, unless you want to be running an unstable beast, you should probably just stick w/ the repositories you're already using07:34
thoreauputicunless you like broken systems, that is07:34
skel__oh07:34
psychonateNessus is a pretty neat little tool07:34
skel__does ubuntu change or update them?07:34
xiaomaiskel__, was there some particular peice of software you needed to update?07:34
skel__gdesklets07:34
thoreauputicskel__: especially if you 've only been using Ubuntu for a week...07:35
skel__i got a odler version all i found in syantic07:35
coolkevhow come I can't open a torrent file a text view to see it's content07:35
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djm62skel__: ubuntu has a 6-month cycle, following gnome.07:35
xiaomaiskel__, you'd probably be better off just downloading the source-code and compiling it by yourself then07:35
dabarWhy would my totem player give me an error that it could not start a gstreamer object?07:35
skel__oh....07:35
skel__how lcose it to the 6 months?07:35
skel__close*07:35
djm62coolkev: right-click on the icon, and use gedit, or whatever07:35
thoreauputicxiaomai: hrm - he's only been using Ubuntu for a week07:35
skel__like 3 days :P07:35
djm62skel__: october07:35
skel__alrighty07:36
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dabarfailed to create gstreamer play object as soon as I double click an mp3.07:36
xiaomaithoreauputic, oh07:36
dabaror an mpg.07:36
xiaomaithoreauputic, linux for 3 days, or ubuntu for 3 days?07:36
thoreauputicxiaomai: :)07:36
dabarOr anything, in fact.07:36
thoreauputicxiaomai: not sure on that one07:36
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skel__i jsut joking sayign the new ubunttu coming in "3 days"07:37
djm62skel__: it's usually worth keeping to stable, since the updates aren't usually adding much core functionality.  you still get security upgrades delivered07:37
nlivemxok i opened synaptic.. im searching xmms, but that program finds only wma codecs for mms.. what i have to do? (sorry for poor EN..)07:37
skel__alright sounds good07:37
dabarFailed to create the player: Couldn't initialize scheduler.  Did you run gst-register? that is the error music player gives.07:37
nlivemxskel__, need help! :}07:37
skel__one day i will be a ubuntu pro: )07:37
dabargst-register is not a command on my console.07:37
thoreauputicnlivemx: you need the universe repository - see below07:38
Dj_AlTeKw00t!07:38
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thoreauputic!repositories07:38
ubotusomebody said repositories was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto07:38
Dj_AlTeKi got steam to run under wine!07:38
xiaomaihey, does anyone know how to make it so that only particular fonts are bigger? i'm trying to talk to some chinese kids but the fonts are just to small to make out.  if i make my general application font size larger though, the english is *way* too big. can i just make it so that chinese fonts are displayed at 14 or whatever?07:38
djm62dabar: do locate gst-register07:38
dabarnice.07:39
Dj_AlTeKthe olny problem now is that i cant login on steam :(07:39
dabardjm62: nice, thanks, I think that will fix the gstreamer issues.07:39
dabarvery good!07:39
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Dj_AlTeKhey does anyone know how to login on steam using wine??07:40
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dabarit was gst-register0.8 or something.07:40
skel__ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian what if i added that to my sources list?07:41
skel__could i get more appz?07:41
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thoreauputicdabar: if you have a command like that that appears not to exist, try hitting tab07:41
dabarskel, you would have a better chance of ruining your comp.07:41
thoreauputicdabar: it would have completed to gst-register-0.8 or whatever07:41
skel__<---thinking about it....07:41
bddebianskel__: Did you already add Universe and Multiverse?07:41
skel__pretty sure i have07:41
djm62skel__: quantity of apps isn't a great way measure a computer...get what you need/want07:42
xiaomaiskel__, maybe you should just dump your sources.list in #flood07:42
Dj_AlTeKcan i get some help here??07:42
nlivemxthoreauputic, thank you dude :}07:42
thoreauputicskel__: don't mix repositories - you will have no end of trouble07:42
skel__then add what sources list07:42
FunraiserDj_AlTeK, just create an account07:42
skel__what one do u all use07:42
dabarskel__: do this with exttraneous repos(extraneous...) put them in sources.list, comment them out. And when you hear there is an app(or version) in that repo that you want, uncomment, update, install only that app, and then comment out the repo again, and then update again. That way you know what you did.07:42
thoreauputicskel__: just the default ones, plus multiverse if you wish07:43
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skel__were cxan i find that list thoreauputic07:43
thoreauputicskel__: so universe and mutiverse plus the existing ones07:43
skel__unbuntu only Os he dont wanna mess it up :P07:43
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thoreauputicskel__: you already have it, in /etc/apt/sources.list07:44
skel__i changed it a few times07:44
skel__to get appz i wanted07:44
dabarthoreauputic: yeah, thanks, I guess that would have been wise...but, it said did you run gst-reghister(and I really rarely run into stuff that is liek that, has a version number in the command name...07:44
skel__but maybe i havent i dont know (sigh)07:44
thoreauputicdabar: yeah, it's an odd one :)07:44
skel__i hate being linux noob07:44
albackerwhat does this mean ?? what to do  :07:44
albacker/usr/lib/Acrobat5/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread must be executed from the startup script.07:44
xiaomaialbacker, don't run the binary like that... there should be a startup script in /usr/bin or something07:45
thoreauputicdabar: I discovered a whole heap of gnome apps by typing gnome- <tab> <tab>07:45
djm62skel__: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  and the lines that start with # are ignored by the computer07:45
dabarah, yeah, that yes...07:45
xiaomaixiaomai, you could just use xpdf or gnome-pdf or something though07:45
albackerxiaomai, ok thanks07:45
skel__gotcha07:45
dabarI also loook like that when I am searching for some gnome app when in a diff wm...07:46
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skel__now i there07:46
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dabarsoccmom?07:46
socomm07:46
dabarhehe07:46
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skel__what should my back ports be i always get a error on those07:46
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unome!mic07:46
ubotuunome: Are you smoking crack?07:46
dabar!backports07:47
ubotu[backports]  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/07:47
skel__thank u07:47
skel__:)07:47
dabarread the red text07:47
thoreauputicskel__: I suggest you not use backports, frankly07:47
dabartry asking ubotu first too, I do that on #debian07:47
skel__why so?07:47
dabarskel__: as I said, it is an extraneous repo, use it only like I specified...07:47
skel__adding idiviual packages...07:48
dabaronly get an app, yes.07:48
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skel__gotcha07:48
skel__:)07:48
thoreauputicskel__: if you *must* use it, comment it out after you get what you needed07:48
flipyis there any site to download a breezy iso image for amd64?07:48
dabarDOnt keep it in your sources.list uncommented., cause then when you do sudo aptitude upgrade, or whatever the command is,...you get all the updates from backports?(meaning, very unstable system).07:48
refuze2loozeflipy, it's not recomended you use breezy yet..07:48
albackeri dont know why in this acroread5 i cant use scroll and why i cant get acroread 7 from the repos.07:49
thoreauputicdabar: right on ;)07:49
dabaryeah, I told a good story about it...07:49
xiaomaiany snmp experts in here?07:49
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skel__ok07:49
skel__thank u all very much07:49
skel__:)07:49
socommflipy: Any reason as to why you wanna run brezzy?07:49
nlivemxdoes xmms need mp3 codec or smth? it stops repsonding and i dont know how to close/kill him.. ://07:49
xiaomainlivemx, killall -9 xmms07:50
flipywell, I know, but the only lack of ubuntu is that don't recognaize my bios raid (even the wifi is detected!), so I though that maybe breezy supports it07:50
socommnlivemx: `killall -9 xmms'07:50
lcddwhy do people use ubuntu when they obviously want bleeding edge, broken and unstable? :)07:50
socommOr `xkill'07:50
joachimcan hibernation work on desktop machines?07:50
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thoreauputicnlivemx: in options/ preferences enable the esound output plugin07:50
dabarwelcome07:50
xiaomaijoachim, why would you want to hibernate a desktop?07:50
thoreauputicnlivemx: in xmms07:50
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nlivemxok.. thanks07:50
test1hi all07:50
joachimwhile I'm away eating dinner, xiaomai07:51
dabarlcdd: is that a question?07:51
flipysocomm, refuze2looze: well, I know, but the only lack of ubuntu is that don't recognaize my bios raid (even the wifi is detected!), so I though that maybe breezy supports it07:51
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lcdddabar: not really, no :)07:51
xiaomaijoachim, technically there should be a way... but i've always heard it's discouraged on unix boxen (especially for just short periods of time)07:51
dabarok07:51
joachimhmm... pity. don't geeks care about global warming?07:52
dabaroh, yeah, another thing that is unstable...when I right click a file, and click properties, nautilus shuts down, and restarts...07:52
refuze2loozejoachim, isn't it good enough to just turn the monitor off07:52
thoreauputicjoachim: just use xscreensaver to lock the desktop07:52
dabarjoachim: System>log out>hibernate...07:52
dabarit is right there,...07:52
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joachimit doesn't show on my system07:53
dabarwarty?07:53
joachimhoary07:53
nlivemxwoooooooooohooooooooooooooo mp3 is working!!!07:53
joachimI upgraded from warty with synaptic07:53
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nlivemxsorry.. im so glad.. :}07:53
dabarme tooo, muine has that option.07:53
thoreauputicnlivemx: :)07:53
dabarnlivemx, I heard from restrictedformats wiki that if you install xmms mp3 support is built in.07:54
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kiracan somebody help me have a little problem07:54
nlivemxdabar?07:54
nlivemxlietuvis?07:54
kirahallo07:54
socommxmms uses the mpg123 plugin as far as I know.07:54
dabarno, I am croatian.07:54
nlivemxok ok.. thoreauputic is a lifesaver :}07:55
dabarkira, I can help you with a little problem. Im not sure that is the problem you are having, tho, so please go ahead.07:55
kiraHow can i make a link so i installed the newest firefox in opt directory but i want to start firefox typing just firefox07:55
kiranot ./firefox07:55
thoreauputicnlivemx: hahah - one guy siad I rescue kittens from trees and help old ladies across the street ;)07:55
thoreauputic*said07:55
dabaralias firefox='/installed/directory/firefox'07:56
djm62kira: alias07:56
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djm62kira: or add a launcher to the panel on gnome...07:57
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dabarkira, altho that wil not do any good(well, it did not on my system before) if you are looking for extensions to work, look up forums.07:57
kirathanx very much yeah great !07:57
kirait works07:57
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thoreauputicbetter:  ln -s /path/to/firefox /usr/local/bin/firefox07:57
dabarya, it does.07:57
bohaay!07:57
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thoreauputicthat will work with clickable menus as well07:57
bois this only english?07:57
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ttyS0how to create .debs ?07:57
dabarand make usr/local/bin before usr/bin in the path?07:57
thoreauputicdabar: it is by default in ubuntu07:58
dabarttyS0: out of what.07:58
dabarok, good, ya that makes sense, completely.07:58
joachimwhy does OpenOffice look really ugly on hoary? I'm sure it used to use the gnome widgets before07:58
thoreauputicdabar: echo $PATH to see07:58
bois this only english??07:58
ttyS0dabar, out of directory07:58
djm62bo: there are rooms for other languages, like #ubuntu-es07:58
dabarjoachim: cause we like ugly things...07:58
thoreauputicbo: yes07:58
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kirait is strange if i klick on an link in evolution firefox do not open the link nothing happens07:58
joachimwhat I mean is that it's all dark grey07:58
joachimthe rest of my apps are light grey07:59
thoreauputicjoachim: it should use the gnome widgets07:59
dabaraha, yeah, it uses something else...07:59
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djm62joachim: there is an openoffice2 package which uses the gnome widgets...07:59
thoreauputicjoachim: did you upgrade from warty without ubuntu desktop installed?07:59
dabarDoes anyone know how I can find out why my natilus crashes when I right click on a file, and click on properties?07:59
nlivemxdabar, in my language your nick means "now" :}08:00
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dabarin mine, it means beaver.08:00
thoreauputicumm - my open office uses gnome themes on hoary08:00
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othernoobhi, im having problems printing a pdf (20 pages) with my laser printer, which worked fine before and has printed about 700 pages so far.08:00
joachimthoreauputic, yes, I think so -- the ubuntudesktop package got removed ages ago in a werid dependency glitch08:00
petei'm looking to switch my ipod mini for an mp3 player that shows up on the desktop and i can just copy mp3's onto.08:00
djm62thoreauputic: are you running openoffice2 (preview unofficial etc)?08:00
bohow can you go to the other languages rooms?08:00
thoreauputicjoachim: I would reinstall it and see if that helps08:00
peteanyone got suggestions? I'm looking at the zen micro and some of the iriver flash players08:00
thoreauputicdjm62: no08:00
joachimok, will try. tx08:00
thoreauputicjoachim: there's a gnome package for OOo as well08:01
pete...and it should work with ubuntu (of course)08:01
djm62bo: what language do you prefer?08:01
thoreauputicforget the name08:01
ttyS0ok, let's repeat. how to create .debs out of directory (i've made some changes in .deb file and now i want to install it)? :)08:01
yourghetekwhat im i doing wrong? "sudo slocate -u && slocate -n 1 sources.list | sudo nano"08:01
boDutch08:01
msg-me-4-a-gamehow do you change the clock in ubuntu08:02
thoreauputicyourghetek: wtf are you trying to achieve with that?08:02
joachimwhoa.... selecting ubuntu desktop says it wants to install a TON of stuff08:02
dabarchange it how msg-me-4-a-game?08:02
joachimincluding things I already have like firefox. ???08:02
msg-me-4-a-gamewell08:02
msg-me-4-a-gamewhen i boot to windows08:02
bosomeone?08:02
msg-me-4-a-gameit changes the time by 6 hours08:02
Seveasbo, kom naar #ubuntu-nl dan :)08:03
thoreauputicjoachim: you probably still have warty versions of things08:03
msg-me-4-a-gamei used the wrong setting during install of ubuntu08:03
Seveastyp gewoon /join #ubuntu-nl08:03
djm62pete: any generic mp3 player will do that, ipod is the exception.  there are apps that will work with the ipod mini.  iriver devices support ogg which is a nice touch08:03
yourghetekthoreauputic: im making a script called "snano" for example... you wanna finda file and nano it like googles "im feeling lucky"08:03
bojah hoe?08:03
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joachimthoreauputic, I ran a smart update off the hoary CD though08:03
thoreauputicyourghetek: erm... OK08:03
dabarsome of my wmvs dont have video. I have installed w32codecs, gstreamer0.8-* and that.08:03
boSeveas, hoe?08:04
lcddpete: it's easiest if the player has usb mass storage support, that means you can access it like any removable disk08:04
joachimI'll try it... but if you don't see me for a while, it'll be because it's broken everything! ;)08:04
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DaveyI wonder if gstreamer 0.9 will hit backports soon08:04
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trupina_help08:04
yourghetekthoreauputic: what?! i think it would be cool... besides it practice08:04
lcddpete: at least older iriver flash players didn't have this in their firmware08:04
trupina_need some help08:05
dabargo ahead.08:05
trupina_about bittorent08:05
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhas anyone gotten the mail plug in for gkrellm to work right?08:05
djm62:) people come in here with a virtual gasp of desperation08:05
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dabarsome...first few times...08:05
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trupina_what is a meta file08:05
thoreauputicyourghetek: in the first place, locate returns to the prompt, so your && are useless08:06
Seveasbo --> typ gewoon /join #ubuntu-nl08:06
Funraiserguys look at this http://tinypic.com/view.html?pic=68vmhh08:06
othernoobSeveas. are you familiar with printing problems?08:06
thoreauputicyourghetek: in the second place i see no logic in what you are doing with locate, and I don't understand why you use slocate08:06
Seveasothernoob, not too much08:06
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lcddothernoob: let's hear it, maybe someone here can help08:07
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othernoobSeveas: would you know why my printer just doesn't start printing (printed 700 pages so far) and am trying to print a 20 pages pdf which consists of the same mathmatical stuff than the other 700 pages08:07
Seveasfeed it new paper?08:08
yourghetekthoreauputic: how else would i find a file and send it straight to nano under root?08:08
Seveasor ink/toner08:08
othernoobSeveas: theres about 200 pages for it to print on and my toner still got about 900 pages..the drum still got about 11000 pages08:08
Seveasno errors on the display of the printer?08:09
othernoobnope, none :/08:09
Dj_AlTeKjesus what the hell are you trying to pring??08:09
lcddothernoob: you could take a look in /var/log/cups/error_log to see if there's anything odd going on08:09
socommAre you using cups?08:09
othernoobyea i use cups08:09
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socommothernoob: Try checking your printers status.08:10
othernoobmy printer is a brother hl 2030 using the inofficial brother hl 1250 drivers (recommended on linuxprinting.org)08:10
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Hoxzer`after noob08:10
nlivemxhow to turn off gnome sounds? :P08:11
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othernoobsocomm: it appears to be processing the job( the pdf), but eh..i hardly doubt it'd need ~10 mins for 20 pages08:11
njannlivemx, crazily, in the System>Preferences>sound menu ;)08:11
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petelcdd: thanks for the tips. I had thought that the iriver and zen had usb mass storage support. do you know that the zen has it?08:11
thoreauputicyourghetek: you just end up with a new buffer containing "/etc/apt/sources.list " by piping it to nano08:11
thoreauputicI mean containing the path, not the file08:11
teleyinexhi08:11
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teleyinextoday and yesterday my hoary is crashing with hal08:12
teleyinexis this normal?08:12
lcddpete: apparently the iriver disk based players do, but other than those, i don't know08:12
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teleyinexwhen i login in my gnome session I get the error: HAL couldnt be initialited08:12
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yourghetekthoreauputic: yeah i found that out.08:12
othernoobmmh. /var/log/cups/error_log seems to be fine too08:12
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socommteleyinex: No.08:13
teleyinexsocomm, and is this a new bug?08:13
teleyinexwhere can I search?08:13
nlivemxwhat irc clients you are using? everyone x-chat?08:13
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socommteleyinex: I don't think so, perhaps you've changed something that messes with HAL.08:14
teleyinexnothing08:14
socommOr some sort of faulty hardware.08:14
teleyinexdunno, cause i reboot and then its solved08:14
dabarDoes anyone know how I can find out why my natilus crashes when I right click on a file, and click on properties?08:14
thoreauputicyourghetek: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html  << useful08:14
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thoreauputicdabar: have you tried running `strace nautilus ` and seeing what it says when you do that?08:15
mirakis there an archive handler that doesn't crash08:16
mirakbeside command line08:16
dabarso I do strace nautilus, and do my thing, right?08:16
mirakfile-roler sucks08:16
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squinnYou know, I did something yesterday that I've not done in a long time.08:16
thoreauputicdabar: right, and a whole lot of stuff spits out into the term ;)08:17
dabarhehe, one that does not crash:)_08:17
squinnSaw someone and actually talked to a knowledgeable person -- Linux user -- about running Linux08:17
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dabaroh, wow, even before it opens million things. I dont need those, tho, right?08:17
ompaultell me is the subject of an anti swpat stance so off topic for this channel that a useful url should not be handed out - this is for peeps in the eu, people outside will not help the process, we are a little touchy aob the demoracy08:18
Funraisersquinn, really?08:18
thoreauputicno, you are only looking for the end when you do the thing that crashes it08:18
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dabaroh, wow, it worked now...08:18
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joachimok I'm still here :)08:19
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joachimthoreauputic, you were right. it's fixed OOo's widgets!08:19
thoreauputicjoachim: I thought it might ;) Great !08:20
thoreauputic:D08:20
joachimthanks :)08:20
dabarthoreauputic: does the strace fix anything? cause it works now...08:20
thoreauputicno worries :)08:20
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thoreauputicdabar: no, but running it from terminal might08:21
squinnFunraiser, yep ype08:21
othernoobmmh, cant even print a simple text file created with nedit now...08:21
dabaryeah, it did. Howcome?08:21
thoreauputicdabar: in which case the problem is in the way it's launched08:21
thoreauputicdabar: dunno08:21
thoreauputicdabar: some gnome thing08:21
dabarok, good. well, now the one that was launched originally works tooo, so its all good,.08:21
thoreauputichmm08:22
thoreauputicodd08:22
dabaryeah.08:22
thoreauputicmagic!08:22
dabarpebcak,,,08:22
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othernoobhow do i kill the cups daemon?08:22
thoreauputicdabar: don't be hard on yourself ;-)08:22
MacScrewhello all08:22
thoreauputicothernoob: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys stop08:23
bddebianHello MacScrew08:23
socomm/etc/init.d/cupsd stop08:23
socommOr something like that.08:23
ompaulthe idea of a daemon is that you can't but you can stop it - being a daemon it can restart its self - but if you do what thoreauputic says you will be happy - ripped from the book of daemons 101 :)08:23
dabarim not, joke...im off.08:24
fnoyi cant download stuff on my firefox it says xml pasring error: not well-formed08:24
dabarlater08:24
thoreauputiccupsys methinks - or so saith tab completion08:24
joachimdo firefox extensions cause problems with apt?08:24
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socommjoachim: Probably not.08:24
djm62joachim: no, they're in your $HOME directory08:24
joachimI'm getting this error:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package mozilla-firefox08:24
thoreauputicjoachim: shouldn't - unless the updgraded version doesn't like them08:24
thoreauputicjoachim: try ` sudo apt-get -f install ` without any packages08:25
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joachimthoreauputic, I get the same error08:26
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othernoobmmh. stopped cups, started cups again, didnt help. :/08:26
joachimshould I try just deleting that file?08:26
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thoreauputicjoachim: do you have a backport version of firefox or a 3rd party version?08:27
ompaulothernoob, you asked how to stop it what is you need it to do?08:27
joachimthoreauputic, when I was on warty I installed the latest FF in my home folder08:27
othernoobompaul well, id like to be able to print.. but for some reason my printer doesnt print anymore08:27
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ompaulhas it got ink?08:27
othernoobompaul, more than enough toner08:27
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ompaulothernoob,  okay it is a better kind of ink :)08:28
thoreauputicjoachim: that shouldn't matter - but that error suggests a conflict of versions08:28
lcddothernoob: does 'lpstat -t' list the printer?08:28
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ompaulothernoob, message me the output of lpq08:28
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othernooblcdd yes08:28
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ompaulothernoob, or stick it in pastebin08:28
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joachimI had hoary's 1.0.2, and before that, warty's 0.9.something08:29
thoreauputictime to go - 'night all08:29
ompaulnight thoreauputic08:29
othernoobompaul it just says that its ready and printing..08:29
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justinjoachim: what package are you installing that gives you that error?08:29
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joachimjustin, firefox08:29
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ompaulothernoob, emm it should say read and no entries08:30
justinjoachim: what is the exact name of the package08:30
ompaulothernoob, emm it should say ready and no entries even08:30
ompaulothernoob, it thinks there is a job in progress08:30
othernoobompaul, yea, i still had a nedit file with the text "test" in the jobs..just cancelled it. now it just says ready.08:30
ompaulothernoob,  now stop it08:31
joachimjustin, 'firefox'08:31
justinjoachim: where did you get a package called 'firefox' from?08:31
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othernoobompaul okay done08:31
othernoobrestart it ?08:31
justinoooh, i see08:31
justinjoachim: why are you using breezy?08:31
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joachimjustin, I didn't think I was!08:32
ompaulothernoob, prove it is stopped :-) what is the output of  'ps -auwx | grep cup | grep -v cup'08:32
ompaulothernoob, prove it is stopped :-) what is the output of  'ps -auwx | grep cup | grep -v grep' Even08:32
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goldfish_what port does remote desktop run on by default?08:33
lcddompaul: grep cupsd$ ;)08:33
justinjoachim: packages.ubuntu.com/firefox packages.ubuntu.com/mozilla-firefox08:33
xliuSeveas, I just deleted Mozilla-firefox ; all i did was manually delete every package according to the dependency. Seems it is a little complicate, is there a better way?08:33
joachimall my repositories say 'hoary'08:34
joachimpackage 'mozilla-firefox' says dummy transitional package08:35
zukalkjoachim, that package depends on 'firefox' according to synaptic08:35
joachimhmm. I'll remove backports08:35
xliujoachim, why to remove backports?08:36
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joachimdon't know... I'm starting to get confused08:36
Dj_AlTeKhey ne1 here know how to downgrade a wine installation using winetools?08:36
Amarantheek, firefox from backports?!08:37
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oris_wolfbanehey guys, whats the quickst wiki to set up?08:37
zukalkAmaranth, what's wrong with the backports?08:37
Amaranthperhaps breezy backports will be better but for now i'm still saying backports == broken system08:37
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joachimok...08:38
Amaranthzukalk: They're fscking backporting gcc4, mono, and firefox08:38
joachimwell in that case I think I've broken everything08:38
dw_Seveas: I know this is delayed, but what you said made it work just fine, thanks.08:38
joachimwhjen I removed backports from the repo list, synaptic wanted to remove ubuntu-desktop08:38
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mandelahi all newbie here can u help me please08:40
HaRDaWaYhello08:40
mandelahi hard08:40
mandelacan u help?08:40
xliuwhat's08:40
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xliumandela, what's the matter?08:40
fnoy_how do you reinstall firefox?08:40
HaRDaWaYmandela make your question in the channel...and we try to resolv it08:40
luftdufdwahts your problem mandela08:40
crazyhorsefnoy, reinstall firefox? what's the problem?08:41
HaRDaWaYand sorry for my english08:41
mandelagot me a copy of version 5.04 can i install it alonfside windows??08:41
fnoy_it says xml parsing error: not well-formed08:41
bddebianWhen opening what?08:41
mandelaenglish is fine!!08:41
crazyhorsefnoy, try to moving the .mozilla directory in your homedir away that firefox needs to create a new profile08:41
xliufony_, i just reinstalled firefox by remove all the packages manually according to the dependency08:41
Seveasmandela, yes you can :)08:42
xliumanela,of course you can, i installed Ubuntu and WIndows in one hard disk08:42
mandelado i boot from cd and is there a partition manager in ubuntu?08:42
xliumandela, yes there is08:42
mandeladoes it tell you how and how difficult is it?08:42
dw_Seveas: i had another qustion i was wondering if i culd ask?08:43
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thechitowncubsdw: ask it08:43
thechitowncubsdont ask to ask08:43
mandelalol08:43
thechitowncubsPet peave in every irc channel08:43
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HaRDaWaYpeople, can you help me please?, i have toshiba satellite m40-145 (chipset intel915pm, and pci-express), my system stop when it is booting in "starting hotplug subsystem" and another question is..chipset intel 915 pm (centrino) is not support in the kernel yet? i cant activate dma :(08:43
dw_thechitowncubs: thought I might need to since asking a person in particular, no worry08:43
xliumanela, the tool is not so easy to use compared with the partitioner in Fedora Core08:43
dw_i only seem to get sound out of two of my speakers, when I have five08:44
thechitowncubsis it a 5.1 system?08:44
dw_sure08:44
mandelathank you guys ill let you know how it goes and is there any one from south africa here??08:44
dw_and it worked on other linux systems (and windows)08:44
xliumandela, you must get to know some basic concepts of linux file system for using the partitioner in Ubuntu setup08:44
Seveasdw_, you need to use a plugin for alsa oslt, there are posts about this on the forum08:45
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mandelaso should i play with live cd first?08:45
dw_Seveas: i'll do a search, thanks08:45
xliumandela, yes it is a good idea08:45
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mandelathaks guys ill see u all08:45
SeveasALL HIDE, GNULinuxer is back :)08:45
mandelaany one from SA here?08:45
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xliumandela, what is SA?08:46
Seveasxliu, South Africa08:46
mandelasouth africa08:46
delireor south australia08:46
fnoyis ther other broser then firefox for ubuntu08:46
xliuok, thanks08:46
mandelaor southamerica08:46
GNULinuxerSeveas> :)08:46
dw_Seveas: seems to be only one post with "oslt" in it, and it's in the mailing list....08:46
fnoybrowser08:46
mandelaciao:)08:46
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Seveasdw_, lol :)08:46
Seveasoslt is short for 'or something like that08:47
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Seveassearch for 'surround sound'08:47
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dw_ok, thanks08:47
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Seveasdelire, links -g can that too :)08:47
lsuactiafnerroot08:48
lsuactiafnerwrong screen08:48
lsuactiafnerlol08:48
goldfish_lol08:48
delireSeveas: haven't tried that.. will do!08:48
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sewoylhello again08:48
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Seveashi sewoyl08:49
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Mondoshawanhi all08:49
zukalkhey guys, i wrote a simple sh to move the .deb and .tar.gz from ~ to /usr/local/deb and /tar. it works fine, but when there are no more such files in ~, it says mv: impossvel fazer stat em `*.deb': Arquivo ou diretrio no encontrado08:49
sewoylwhat is polling_frequency in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM ??08:49
zukalkanyway to solve this? it's a simple mv *.deb08:49
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goldfish_hmm, i've enabled system > preferences > remote desktop, but i cant seem to connect to it... anyone know what port it should run on?08:49
sewoylzukalk, isnt it normal if you moved them?08:50
zukalksewoyl, yes.08:50
xliuSeveas, if several packages depend on one package A, in order to removing A, is that a better way than removing every package depending on A manually?08:50
Mondoshawancan me somebody tell how i can make a list of all installed packages so when i need reinstall the system i will know what i need08:50
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zzzsleepyMondoshawan, dpkg -l08:50
zzzsleepyI think?08:50
xliuMondoshawan, dpkg -l08:50
goldfish_yeah08:50
xliuhehe08:50
topyliMondoshawan: dpkg --get-selections > packages.list08:51
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zukalksewoyl, but is there a way to make it try to move *.deb only if there are any .deb's there?08:51
Mondoshawancool thanks08:51
Seveaszukalk, if [[ ! -z `ls | grep '.deb'` ] ] ; then mv *.deb /usr/local/deb; fi08:51
zukalkSeveas, thanks08:51
dw_Seveas: says I should change ALSA device to plug:surround51 in the ALSA configuration.... is that it?08:51
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Seveasdw_, indeed08:51
joachimwhat does this mean: mv: cannot stat `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/defaults.ini': No such file or directory08:52
SeveasMondoshawan, dpkg --get-selection > list08:52
zzzsleepyMondoshawan, there is also instructions on the ubuntu forums somewhere on how to put downloaded packages on a cd-rom and then create an offline/local repository so you don't have to redownload08:52
dw_Seveas: sorry if this is stupid, but how wuld I change the device?08:52
SeveasMondoshawan, dpkg --set-selections < list08:52
topyliMondoshawan: when you have reinstalled, restore your apt sources.list and do dpkg --set-selections < packages.list08:52
Seveasthe latter restores the package state :D08:52
Mondoshawanok thanks i hope i can with this list also install packages wit apt -get08:52
Seveasdw_, no idea, never had to do that myself08:52
Mondoshawanaaaaaaaa08:52
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dw_ok08:53
dw_anybody else know how to access alsa configuration??08:53
xliuwhat is alsa configuration?08:53
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dw_xliu: place where you can change alsa device08:54
lcdddw_: /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc08:54
HaRDaWaYanybody has laptop with chipset intel centrino 915 pm ? (sonoma)08:54
deliredw_ yes ~/.asoundrc08:54
dw_lcdd: will try now, thanks08:54
dw_delire: thanks08:55
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dw_I don't have either of those....08:55
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xliuanyone knows why my laptop occasionally shutdown automatically if I leave the computer for a long time?08:56
deliredw_: hmm well you can 'touch ~/.asoundrc' to create it and edit it accordingly.08:56
djm62apt-zip08:56
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djm62xliu: how long is long? xscreensaver can be set to suspend or hibernate after a defined interval08:56
deliredw_: the syntax isn't too bizarre, you'll find examples online that will suit your configuration08:57
dw_delire: instructions say to edit it and change device accordingly... wouldn't know waht to write08:57
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dw_delire: will try to look then08:57
coreyois there a way to get alt-rightclick-drag resizing with gnome/metacity?08:57
endydw_, the alsa web page has examples for most cards08:57
zukalkSeveas, another line in the sh is "mv Source/* /usr/local/src/ . will the ls | grep thing work with it?08:57
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zzzsleepyA new NVIDIA driver (1.0-7667) was released yesterday. Any plans on backporting this? (http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7667.html)08:58
xhakerhello08:58
dw_endy: thanks, checking out now08:58
xliui think it is like a bug, sometimes it is not so long, about 10 minutes, and the shutdown is so quicky that everything stops suddenly08:58
lcddzzzsleepy: what's new in it?08:58
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zzzsleepylcdd, I have yet to read the changelog, but it may resolve an issue(s) that the backporter(s) were waiting on from the last update.08:59
Seveaszukalk, if [[ ! -z `ls Source` ] ] ; then mv .....; fi08:59
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coreyoalso, is anyone else experiencing intermittent io freezups on their ubuntu desktop?08:59
ttyS0guys. i've installed gstreamer0.8-mad but.....how to listen mp3 files ? (Rhytmbox)08:59
zukalkSeveas, thanks a bunch08:59
lcddzzzsleepy: right08:59
deliredw_: it loks a bit like: pcm.sblive \n {  \n type hw \n card 0 \n }. where \n is a newline08:59
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xliudjm62, i think it is like a bug, sometimes it is not so long, about 10 minutes, and the shutdown is so quicky that everything stops suddenly09:00
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deliredw_: but really this is only useful if you have multiple cards no?09:00
djm62xliu: if it's a bug, I don't know how to solve it09:00
anouarjo dudes09:01
anouari cant make my repositories universal09:01
dw_delire: dunno. It's nvidia sound card 5.109:01
xliuok, i should report it as a bug09:01
zzzsleepylcdd: brief list of changes with the latest NVIDIA driver: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=85009:01
MondoshawanMe again (i am so stupid) forgotten the much importants thing: can i use the list (packages.list) i export with dpkg -get--selection > with apt-get to download this packages?09:01
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delireHaRDaWaY: i have a centrino..09:02
deliredw_ eek, forgot they actually made sound cards09:02
djm62ttyS0: have you tried right-clicking on the file and opening in rhythmbox?  the way rhythmbox was intended to be used, you "add to library" from the application, a directory at a time09:02
dw_heh09:02
HaRDaWaYdelire and its sonoma? intel915pm, or pci-express ?09:02
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MondoshawanVERSION09:03
tpdddoes anyone know of a way to sync /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow on different machines and *nix machines09:03
delireHaRDaWaY: i don't identify it as any of those. wireless is ipw2200, otherwise it's an Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor09:04
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HaRDaWaYok, thanks09:04
Seveastpdd, you need NIS or something like that09:04
MondoshawanMe again (i am so stupid) forgotten the much importants thing: can i use the list (packages.list) i export with dpkg -get--selection > with apt-get to download this packages09:05
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ttyS0djm62, yup. but it doesn't play anything :\09:05
deliretpdd: yes i've heard NIS also, though never done it myself.09:05
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signiusis there a way to check what kernel updates have been done and when ?09:05
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signiusi think apt or synaptec did a kernel update and in the process zapped my rfmon patches and i just had to re patch my kernel09:06
Seveassignius, on your machine or in Ubuntu in general?09:06
signiusin ubuntu09:06
signiusbut in general would be nice to know also09:06
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signiusis there a way to exclude any kernel updates but do all other updates09:07
Seveassignius, sure, pin the kernel to the current version...09:07
deliresignius: pinning09:07
delirealso a --hold option i believe09:07
signiusi am not at all familiar with either so i will have to read up a little on both i think09:07
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xliuis there any body using eclipse in Ubuntu?09:08
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deliresignius: /etc/apt/preferences09:08
zzzsleepyxliu, not I, but I recall this being discussed on the forums09:08
signiusah ha09:08
signiusim listening09:09
delirecannot find the --hold option i dreamt up ;)09:09
xliuzzzsleepy, the wen forums in Ubuntu website?09:09
signiusdelire is that for this pinning option ?09:09
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zzzsleepyxliu, I don't remember where it was discussed, but search the ubuntu forums website for eclipse and search by topic09:09
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xliuzzzsleepy, thanks a lot, tack09:10
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signiusthere seems to be no such file as /etc/apt/preferences09:10
Seveascreate it then :)09:11
deliresignius: yes, you'll need to create that file09:11
signiusah09:11
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deliresignius: it's a bit of a weird business. basically one uses a number range to designate priority09:11
signiusok i think i need go google about this09:11
signiusthanks for pointing me in the right direction09:12
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phinnaeu1what is the gdesklets package that you download again? the one with all the clocks and stuff... gah i can never remember these things09:12
deliresignius: 'man apt_preferences' should have what you need09:12
zzzsleepyxliu, tack?09:12
delirephinnaeu1: use 'apt-cache search <keyword>' good for times like this.09:13
phinnaeu1oh ok09:13
phinnaeu1thanks09:13
delirephinnaeu1: use 'apt-cache show packagename' then allows you to read all about the package itself09:13
signiusok thanks reading it now09:13
signiuscheers09:13
delirenp09:13
xliuzzzsleepy, ok, hehe it's Swedish09:14
phinnaeu1whoa thanks deliere!!09:14
delirehey np09:14
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zzzsleepyxliu, what does it mean09:14
xliu"thanks"09:14
zzzsleepyxliu, ;)09:14
zzzsleepyxliu, you are welcome! :)09:14
zzzsleepyxliu, those ubuntu forums are a gold mine of information09:15
xliuzzzsleepy, yes i agree09:15
Seveasand of crap :)09:15
Seveasyou really must be able to distinguish between that ;)09:15
delirehehe they'll self-clean over time09:15
delirethis is where i think a slashdot like ranking system is useful. in this case "Useful", "Useless", "Out of date"  etc09:16
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eks"stupid jokes" "people who don't know how to search" would be the most used09:17
eks^^09:17
Seveasdelire, trolldot sucks09:17
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d4rksh4dehi09:18
delireSeveas: a friend of mine (new ubuntu user) suggested that Ubuntu should have an HTML manual "Getting Started" (etc) on the desktop, after install. what do you think of this?09:18
Seveasih09:18
Seveasdelire, agreed, so does the docteam, who are working on it09:18
d4rksh4deok im fresh ubuntu user09:18
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delireSeveas: right, good.09:18
Seveasd4rksh4de, welcome to the dark side then :)09:18
d4rksh4dehehe09:19
zzzsleepySeveas, is the docteam seeking any volunteers?09:19
delireSeveas: /. does have conspicuous tendencies to post FUD of late.09:19
anouarhow can i see wether my my has a static ip or not?09:19
Seveaszzzsleepy, always :)09:19
delired4rksh4de: congrats ;)09:19
zzzsleepySeveas, great, where do I sign up? :)09:19
Seveaszzzsleepy, #ubuntu-doc / ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com09:19
delireanouar: less /etc/network/interfaces is where that's usually defined09:19
d4rksh4dethanx, but I have many problems >/09:20
zzzsleepySeveas, thanks ;)09:20
SeveasPick a project at their webpage09:20
anouarthank you delire09:20
Seveasd4rksh4de, that's not good to hear, but tell us and we might be able to solve it09:20
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d4rksh4deok09:20
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Heimdallhello everybody !09:21
Seveashi Heimdall09:21
d4rksh4dethe biggest problem was solved, i have now internet connection :)09:21
Seveas:D09:21
Heimdallhow are u Seveas ?09:21
Seveasgood :)09:21
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HeimdallI'm in good mood tonight !!!09:21
Seveasoh no09:21
Seveaswon the lottery?09:21
Heimdallno09:21
Seveasahh, too bad ;)09:22
phinnaeu1does anyone know what a .nef file is?09:22
delireanouar: aside from this you won't be able to tell _how_ you got your IP without looking at logs like 'dmesg' AFAIK09:22
Heimdallhehe :)09:22
Seveasphinnaeu1, try www.filext.com09:22
d4rksh4denext i need to get better graphics resolution09:22
Seveasd4rksh4de:  find out how you can change your display's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:22
Heimdallmoney does not make happyness09:22
phinnaeu1will do09:22
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othernoobHeimdall, you sure?09:22
d4rksh4deim on 680x480 right now and its not good09:22
phinnaeu1heh in my world it does09:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYhas anyone ever actually figured out how many diffrent types of files there are for linux?09:22
SeveasHeimdall, but it helps though :)09:22
sleptphinnaeu1, you can check with file filename.nef09:22
Heimdalloh yeah I'm sure09:22
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, infinitely many...09:22
HeimdallI have no money but I'm quite happy :)09:23
othernoobHeimdall, how do you know for sure ;)09:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_o09:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYwow09:23
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HowitzerHow can i set it up so, that at startup, the X server doesn't start automaticly, but that i have to login first and do Startx09:23
othernoobHeimdall, but how do you know that you wouldn't be happier with money?09:23
delireChurcH_of_FoamY: textfiles, archives (and the rest) ;)09:23
Heimdallothernoob : heh :)09:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYjezze09:23
SeveasHowitzer, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove09:23
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi like the fact that most of the files can be edited in notepad09:24
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Howitzerwha09:24
Howitzerehh09:24
Howitzerbesides09:24
Howitzeri use KDM09:24
SeveasHowitzer, sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove09:24
delireChurcH_of_FoamY: notepad!! more like vim, nano or emacs ;)09:24
Seveas:D09:24
Tarcastilhey, if I use checkinstall -D a lot, will that mess up apt any?09:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYi like gedit myself09:24
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ChoubakaTarcastil: likely not.09:24
delirehehe nothing too wront with gedit09:24
eksChurcH_of_FoamY: notepad under wine ? :p09:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYewww09:24
delireyou said it!09:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYi still use win names for programs in linux09:25
Howitzerlol09:25
HowitzerBLASPHEMY09:25
zukalklol09:25
delireheresy09:25
HowitzerHeretic!09:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYcause i'm still adjusting to the smothenss of the way it works09:25
HowitzerLet's BUUUUUURN him!09:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYalthough i have not use.....O_o09:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYused win in 3 mothes09:25
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ChurcH_of_FoamYeven though theres a winxp computer right next to me09:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYtheres just no need for it anymore09:26
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psychonateChoubaka, put *nix on it and set up NFS :)09:26
psychonateer09:26
psychonateChurcH_of_FoamY,09:26
psychonatedamn09:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYhas anyone ever gotten the mail app to work in gkrellm?09:27
RouninHm, so I turned off ACPI in the bootloader, and now the drumming sound from the login prompt is being played again and again and again... How do I stop that?09:27
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zzzsleepyRounin, did you try the sound fix on the ubuntu guide?09:27
eksChurcH_of_FoamY: yep09:27
anouarguys is it posible tha Gaim(msn) does not work ?09:27
delireChurcH_of_FoamY: that's the spirit. you learn through Linux, puts the fun back in computing - and on a computer you finally *own*.09:27
Rouninzzzsleepy: There's an ubuntu guide?09:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYcan you tell me how to make it work right it's pissing me off09:27
zzzsleepyRounin, there was also a thread about this drumming loop on the ubuntu forums09:27
anouarit says it cant find meesenger.com09:27
Rouninzzzsleepy: Cheers09:27
zzzsleepyRounin, search the mailing list area of the forums on the ubuntu forums for this issue09:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYdelire i know it rocks09:27
ekshttp://ubuntuguide.org/09:28
Dj_AlTeKcan anyone here tell me what this means: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/18109:28
eksChurcH_of_FoamY: what is your problem exactly ?09:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYone sec09:28
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d4rksh4dewhat is sudoers file?09:29
bigbootayconfig file for sudo program.09:29
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delired4rksh4de: it is where user, group, program execution permissions are defined for use by sudo.09:30
Tarcastilokok09:30
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d4rksh4deis this bad? "a1test is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."09:30
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Choubakad4rksh4de: no.09:31
d4rksh4deok09:31
Choubakad4rksh4de: it will be reported to your main user.09:31
d4rksh4dei thought this is an error09:31
Choubakad4rksh4de: it is.09:31
Choubakayou're not in the sudoers file09:31
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Choubaka-> you're not allowed to run programs wityh sudo09:31
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d4rksh4deand when i type "su" it asks password09:31
d4rksh4debut i dont know the password :/09:32
sleptthere is none09:32
delired4rksh4de: su == "super user". sudo == "super user do" (or do-as-super-user) where 'super user' == root09:32
d4rksh4deall passwords are wrong09:32
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d4rksh4deok09:33
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delired4rksh4de: ubuntu doesn't have a root password by default. root == Super User ('su'). you shouldn't really need one, but if you must login as super user (root) then 'sudo passwd root'09:33
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endycan you 'sudo su' then run a program?09:34
delired4rksh4de: though it sounds to me like you have no defined rights in /etc/sudoers.09:34
d4rksh4dethanx now i got it09:34
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d4rksh4delol i typed only su09:34
delireendy: no..09:34
d4rksh4debut it needs to be "su username"09:34
delire?09:35
endydelire, ok :)09:35
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xirtamhow do i set xfree86 as default xserver ?09:35
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ChurcH_of_FoamYeks well i'm trying to set it up to check my email with firefox and every 120seconds it opens up firefox09:35
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ChurcH_of_FoamYand the mail count is wrong09:35
delired4rksh4de: have you created a new user and now you want to give it certain program execution rights?09:35
xirtamhow do i set xfree86 as default xserver ?09:35
Seveasxirtam, xfree86 is NOT supported anymore09:36
psychonateWhy do you want it anyway?09:36
Seveasit will be impoosible to run it in breezy..09:36
coreyohow do you access administration in cups (localhost:631) ?  the printer-manager doesn't let me name/rename or alter any printers, and logging in as root doesn't seem to be working09:36
d4rksh4deyes i tried09:36
xirtamok, how do i reconfigure the package to use xorg instead?09:36
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delirecoreyo: weird.. you probably need to be added to the printer group. not needed here though. see /etc/groups09:36
d4rksh4deI tried to install java but couldnt09:36
eksChurcH_of_FoamY: it's normal that it open firefox if you ask it to verify your mails with firefox09:37
endycoreyo, you may need to set a root password09:37
Seveasif you have installed hoary or upgraded to it, you will automatically use Xorg09:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYok so what option do i turn off to make that not happen09:37
Seveascoreyo, sudo adduser cupsys shadow09:37
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sleptxirtam, you cant have xorg and xfree they conflict you have one or the other09:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYand how do i get it to see the correct amount of mail?09:37
eksChurcH_of_FoamY: remove the name off firefox in the configuration09:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYok09:37
eksChurcH_of_FoamY: where is your mailbox ?09:38
d4rksh4deim a little away trying to get my graphics resolution better :/09:38
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi use mozilla-thunderbird09:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYand my e-mail is pop.charter.net09:38
delired4rksh4de: what are you working with now? 800x600, 1024x768?09:38
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CyberTFwhat is the danger in upgrading firefox to 1.0.4 under hoary?09:39
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knuckshow do i create a partition on ubuntu in NTFS format09:39
eksso just ask gkrellm tu check pop.charter.net09:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYyou break it09:39
SeveasCyberTF, FF in hoary is equivalent to 1.0.409:39
eksto*09:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYok09:39
Seveasknucks, not possible...09:39
CyberTFso i should do the workaround for extensions and not worry about it?09:39
knucks:(09:39
d4rksh4deim on 640x48009:39
eksCyberTF: firefox is already 1.0.409:39
d4rksh4deits really bad09:39
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d4rksh4dei cant see all the windows09:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYshit theres 3 diffrent pop3's09:40
Seveasd4rksh4de:  find out how you can change your display's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhich one do i use?09:40
knucksis it possible to create a ntfs partition and then transfer all my mp3s to it?09:40
delired4rksh4de: ouch. can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to a pastebin?09:40
eksCyberTF: it's just an error09:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe default?09:40
Seveasknucks, you can create it in windows...09:40
eksin the version number09:40
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delired4rksh4de: paste it here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/09:40
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ChurcH_of_FoamYand it dosen't show the correct number of e-mails09:40
d4rksh4deok ill try09:40
eksChurcH_of_FoamY: just add your account in the milboxes to check09:40
delired4rksh4de: i may be able to see what's up..09:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYok i did that09:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYand it should check the right number of mail?09:41
eksyes09:41
delired4rksh4de: also, and perhaps more importantly, can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:41
eksit should09:41
coreyodelire: when you say the printer group, you mean lp?09:42
endylpadmin09:42
coreyoSeveas: what does the shadow group do?09:42
endyi think09:42
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eksChurcH_of_FoamY: be sure to remove messages from the server when downloading them in thunderbird09:42
delirecoreyo: yes09:42
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Seveascoreyo, the shadow group can read the encrypted passwords, so it can let you login to the web interface09:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYok do i use remote mailbox or local mailbox?09:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYi do that automaticly09:42
phaedrus44hello09:43
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Seveashi09:43
phaedrus44is ubuntu mo bettah than mepis?09:43
phaedrus44if it is..what makes it bettah!09:43
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ChurcH_of_FoamYthis is where it was looking before --->/var/mail/shane09:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYdo i keep that setting?09:43
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gigliDoes anyone knows how to use headphones. I have installed ubuntu 5.04 on my laptop, acer273 xc, ac97 sound, sis650 chipset, everything works just fine, except that when i use my headphones there is no sound if i push to the bottom, but i can get sound in both my speakers and headphones if i push in to the half. Anyone have any solution?09:43
eksyou can use both, but local mailbox is just used if you have a mail server on your PC09:43
chillywillyI don't think anyone who asks if something is "mo bettah" deserves a response09:43
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ChurcH_of_FoamYno i just use thunderbird09:44
d4rksh4depasted09:44
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eksso you don't need to check local mailboxes09:44
gahanubuntu supports amd64?09:44
Seveaschillywilly, hmm, indeed ;)09:44
Seveasgahan, yes09:44
gahanok thx09:44
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coreyostill no luck loggin into cups via the web interface.  cupsys is a member of lp, and a member of shadow.  I restarted cupsys via /etc/init.d/ and still the same result09:44
delirephaedrus44: mepis is very very good IMHO, though has less integrity  - alot of non-free (patented and/or closed-source stuff like codecs, java etc)09:44
phaedrus44oh09:45
phaedrus44is ubuntu a little liter?09:45
phaedrus44lighter?09:45
phaedrus44does it use kde?09:45
SeveasUbuntu uses gnome, which is lighter than KDE09:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i put it on remote mailboxes right?09:45
bddebianGnome lighter than KDE?  Im not so sure about that anymore :-)09:45
eksphaedrus44: no09:45
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eksKubuntu use KDE09:46
Seveasbddebian, it still is :)09:46
justingnome is _simpler_, and lighter in that sense09:46
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phaedrus44cool...i tried o load it onto my laptop but it kept f'ing up09:46
eksChurcH_of_FoamY: right09:46
SeveasBut yeah, if you really want a light system: xfce is good :)09:46
delirecoreyo: i think endy might have had it. try adding it to the lpadmin group. however here i do not need this.09:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYk than i should be all set09:46
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^09:46
eksyou're welcome :)09:46
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ChurcH_of_FoamYeks can i pm you to test it? and thank you so much09:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'll give ya my email address09:47
delirejustin: gnome, simpler? not so sure about that.09:47
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eksChurcH_of_FoamY: if you want :)09:47
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ChurcH_of_FoamYthank you man you ROCK!09:47
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^09:47
justindelire: compare pretty much any two similar dialogs between gnome and kde, the gnome dialog will have a handful of options, the kde dialog will have 6 tabs and dozens of options09:48
eks:p09:48
d4rksh4dei pasted the log too09:48
zookoGreetings, People of #ubuntu!  I am struggling to install vmware on current breezy, and whenever I insmod vmmon.o I get "-1 Invalid parameters".09:48
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zookoThis is with kernel 2.6.10 from "linux-source-2.6.10"09:48
justindelire: now, the gnome approach is better, as long as you don't specifically need one of the options it lacks09:48
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zooko compiled here with gcc-3.3, and vmmon.o compiled here with gcc-3.3.  How can this not work?09:48
zookoMaybe because gcc-3.3.6 from breezy has a compiler bug ??09:48
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coreyoit turns out that I can't actually kill cups09:49
coreyowow....09:49
merci want the kernel source, and .config file of my current ubuntu kernel, under what will i find this in synaptic?09:49
xiaomaiyou can always just get the lacking options through gconf09:49
lcddmerc: config you can find in /boot09:49
Seveasmerc, linux-source-2.6.1009:49
coreyothe /etc/init.d/cupsys stop doesn't kill it, and killall -9 cupsd still allows me to access the webpage09:49
d4rksh4detest09:49
mercthanks and thanks fellas :)09:49
justinxiaomai: kde still has some obscure options that don't exist anywhere in gnome09:49
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Seveas'some'..?09:50
delirejustin: i use neither, but have grown to be a fan of KDE after having to administer 30 machines used by as many mad students. that said, i do think for everyday use there are a few too many options. hence their new work on simplifying it all radically, hiding such options under 'Advanced buttons' and the like.09:50
Seveassome dozen :)09:50
Seveasper application09:50
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi just wanted to say that beep media player is the best music app i have ever used09:51
coriolancoreyo: at least if you remove cupsys it will not rise when you reboot.09:51
alex_hello world!09:51
mercbeep didnt impress me much09:51
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aukgoodbye, cruel world!!09:52
d4rksh4dewhen i see in terminal like this: d4rksh4de@d4rksh4de:/$   it means im logged in as d4rksh4de?09:52
mercxmms with some bells and whistles09:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just wish it had some eq presets like winamp09:52
alex_i've just installed ubuntu 5.04. i've got a problem with totem09:52
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justindelire: from what I've seen, many people won't make the slightest effort whatsoever to make their default environment more usable09:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i wish winap could run in linux09:52
alex_can anybody helo pme?09:52
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SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, xmms / beep-media-player ;)09:52
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Seveasalex_, what's the problem?09:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYjustin i'm a linux noob and my enviroment is to my likeing09:52
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi changed a whole bunch of crap09:53
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justindelire: and that goes for windows as well, vis. ugly as hell luna theme and brain dead default fonts09:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i'm still tweaking the enviroment09:53
merci used to run fvwm..all i do is tweak ;)09:53
mercthis switch to kde is kinda skeery..09:53
justinChurcH_of_FoamY: some people also never actually use their computers :-P09:53
mercits like you stole my tweasers and gave me a chainsaw09:53
delirejustin: i've given workshops on both KDE and Gnome and see people take to a KDE system (and thus Linux) much faster. however, those that are curious, and better described as 'power users' quickly switch to Gnome.09:53
coreyookay, some brute force killling among other things... cups is now my bitch.  Thanks guys.09:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYi sped about 15-17 hours a day infront of mine09:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYit has my tv and radio and everything09:54
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delirecoreyo: under control? seems to be getting a bit violent ;)09:54
alex_seveas_,i've tried to open an mp3, but it doesn't work09:54
alex_seveas_,it needs a codec. can you help me?09:55
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Seveasin the private chat alex_ :)09:55
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delirealex_: the mp3 uses patented material and thus comes under the banner of 'restricted formats'. you'll need to install the mp3 codec.09:55
coreyodelire: it deserved every bit of it!09:55
delirehehe09:55
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Mondoshawanhi! Can me somebody say me how to recover filse from lost+found09:57
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ChurcH_of_FoamYthat mplayer plugin is pritty cool09:57
justinChurcH_of_FoamY: coolest thing about it is that you can edit the config and set download=1 and noembed=1, so it 1) saves the movies, and 2) lets you view them fullscreen and not in a 3" by 2" window09:59
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delirejustin: wow.. that's news to me.09:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYoohhh new project ^_^09:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYsomething i'm gonna have to try ^_^09:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_0 must tweak10:00
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Seveaslol10:00
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delirehehe the Hunger10:00
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fabioHello all10:01
delirehi10:01
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ChurcH_of_FoamYin windows i used to be the tweakmaster exstrodinare10:01
levanderAnybody remember what the CPU interface for the Katmai Pentium III was called?  It was the one before the Pentium Coppermine core and the Socket 370 interface.10:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYif it could be hacked reverse enginerd or pirated i could do it10:01
fabiodelire, hi10:02
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delirelevander: http://www.motherboards.org/mobot/chipsets/10:03
justinlevander: socket A?10:03
coreyois anyone else experiencing little io "burps" in their desktop responsiveness?  I haven't seen this since some of the later 2.4 kernels10:03
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jessidhello. Could some body tellme how can I use the power save daemon in installed ubuntu?10:03
Seveascoreyo, yes, as if the hard disk is spinning up10:04
levanderdelire: you don't know a quiet heatsink for those cpus do you?  The one I've got now is just too loud.10:04
coreyoSeveas: any ideas?10:04
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Seveasno response for like half a second to a second10:04
levanderdelire: but thanks, i'm checking that page now10:04
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coreyoSeveas: exactly... and if you're typing several letters are either dropped or repeated10:04
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delirelevander: sadly i'm out of the loop. been a laptop oriented person for a few years now.10:05
Seveascoreyo, no not that, they just take some time to 'arrive' on the screen10:05
phinnaeu1hey what is the fastest way to copy a cd on ubuntu?10:05
coreyoSeveas: mine actually get dropped, depending on how furiously I'm typing...   this problem seems to be ubuntu specific...10:05
phinnaeu1is there a fast way?10:05
xTinaAnyone here with automated installation experience (kickstart, d-i preseeding)?10:06
delirecoreyo: odd10:06
linuxboyI saw a cool page on the ubuntu wiki. all about linux. it was long and well written. anybody know what it was called? i've lost it10:06
Seveascoreyo, try fiddling with the power management setting to prevent the hard drive from spinning down10:06
delirecoreyo: anything in syslog?10:06
RCepedahey does anybody know if there's an ImageReady-type program for linux?10:06
coreyoin some of the 2.4 kernels, this became an ide access issue, but was fixed in the 2.6 kernel10:06
jessid'10:06
djm62coreyo: is dma enabled?10:06
Seveasit doesn't bother me too much to look into it actually ;)10:06
phinnaeu1RCepeda: i would just use imageready on wine10:06
coreyodjm62: I enabled it in hdparm.conf10:06
delireRCepeda: gimp will do gif animations (if that's what imageready does).10:07
Elsidoxdoes antone here use wired?10:07
RCepedawould that work right, or would you need more advanced graphics like cedega?10:07
RCepedadelire it does? good10:07
coreyodelire: nothing in syslog that I can see10:07
phinnaeu1RPepeda: photoshop works on wine10:07
delireRCepeda: apt-cache show gimp-gap10:07
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delirecoreyo: then i'd do as Seveas suggests, look into disabling HDD spindown10:08
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coreyoSeveas: I seem to remember someone saying that the powernowd daemon was causing problems... what else should I check?10:08
mercgrar, anyone here use the hostap wireless driver?10:08
delirenope10:08
phinnaeu1does anyone know how i can easily copy an audio CD10:08
Seveashmm, powernowd might be it10:08
Seveasphinnaeu1, use k3b/gnomebaker/graveman10:08
delireRCepeda: gif, however is a patented, restricted format. you'll need to install support for it.10:09
mercor kaudiocreator :)10:09
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mercoh, that'll just rip it.10:09
djm62phinnaeu1: gnomebaker has a Copy Audio CD button10:09
phinnaeu1thanks10:09
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remix_tjanyone knows why portable doesn't switch himself off after the power down message?10:09
RCepedaoh  how would i get that?10:09
deliremerc: KDE has incredible burning software. i like the konqueror integration10:09
merci've only used k3b before10:10
mercother than that, i've been using kde for 1 day.10:10
djm62delire: is it better than nautilus burning?10:10
jessidhello. Could some body tellme how can I use the power save daemon?10:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYis it possible to play .wmv files in linux or is microsoft being a bitch?10:10
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mercbut, right now my concentration is going to be dicking with my kernel and crap to get the damn hostap driver to build.10:10
djm62ChurcH_of_FoamY: it's possible, and easy when it works10:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe problem is getting it to work huh?10:10
deliredjm62: i haven't burnt on Nautilus for a while.. i don't use KDE but i do run k3b when putting together a VCD or DVD10:10
remix_tjChurcH_of_FoamY with vlc you can10:11
djm62ChurcH_of_FoamY: and while bitch in a non-zoological sense isn't appropriate for here, microsoft are uncooperative10:11
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ChurcH_of_FoamYlol10:11
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ChurcH_of_FoamYum whats vls10:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYvlc i mean?10:11
delirevideo-lan-client10:11
delireand a very nice (simple) little movie player10:12
djm62delire: nautilus opening the data-cd-burning window upon insertion of a blank CD seriously impressed me...all stuff should work like that10:12
deliredjm62: wow, that is nice.10:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm getting a font error in one of my players10:12
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ChurcH_of_FoamYnew_face failed. maybe the font path is wrong. please supply the text font file (`/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).10:13
deliredjm62: it's Ubuntu that will lift Gnome back onto it's proud feet. things like getting rid of a few damp, ancient icons, speeding up nautilus and killing ESD. i've always thought Gnome has the best font rendering in the business.10:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there a way to fix this?10:14
phinnaeu1hey i am trying to copy this cd and gnome baker is giving me some crap about there not being an audio cd in the drive...10:14
deliredjm62: and this 'Human theme' is pretty special to look at.10:14
jbonehi, anyone knows how to switch on DMA mode for IDE devices? seems to be switched off in Ubuntu 5.0410:14
coreyoSeveas:  /etc/init.d/powernowd stop seems to have corrected the problem.   Does powernow actually control the disk, or would that just be my processor speed changing ?10:14
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delirejbone: /etc/hdparm.conf10:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there a way to fix the font in mplayer?10:15
djm62delire: I think it's potentiation...gnome HIG seriousness coinciding with ubuntu human-focused distro10:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYto stop getting that stupid error10:15
deliredjm62: for sure..10:15
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phinnaeu1ohhh ok nevermind people10:16
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nalioth_wrknChurcH_of_FoamY: follow the inst, for one10:16
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi don't know how to supply font files though10:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYor where the instructions are10:17
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: the inst are in teh error msg10:17
jbonedelire: thanks; reboot necessary? SuSE had a script which did it whithout rebooting...10:17
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: search your system for the font it wants, and then google (if not found locally)10:17
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ChurcH_of_FoamYok10:18
delirejbone: no you can set it live with 'hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda' (for instance)10:18
delirejbone: as always, be careful!10:19
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jbonethx, will be! btw: Ubunt is a great distri - will stay with it!10:19
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delirejbone: :) that it is.10:19
Nilbushah, this is great :P10:19
Nilbuswww.nilbus.com/pub/ubuntu.mpeg10:19
Nilbushttp://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/686310:19
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delireNilbus: hehe far out ;).10:22
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delireNilbus: Ubuntu perhaps the first Linux distro to be mentioned in prime time trashy TV :)10:23
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jbonedelire: everything went fine, am now copying DVD at full speed instead of 0.7x :-)10:24
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delirejbone: great news ;)10:25
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Nilbusdelire, first time I've ever seen10:26
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levanderthere is any easy way to check your CPU temps? like under the /proc filesystem?10:27
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unomelevander: sensors10:28
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Firetechlevander: mbmon10:28
Firetechsensors require configuration.10:28
levanderthese are /proc files or packages?10:28
pfpis mbmon separate from lm-sensors?10:28
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Firetechpackages10:29
crz_hello guys10:29
cmarquI wonder if I should try seb128's GTK 2.7.0 packages. Did they work for you?10:29
Firetechpfp: yes10:29
crz_I have a blitz question, how to automatically install this - http://fatboy.umng.edu.co/debian/pool/main/c/cinepaint/10:29
levanderwhich is the easiest of the two packages to configure?10:29
naliothcrz_: "sudo apt-get cinepaint"?10:29
seb128cmarqu: they work quite fine10:30
crz_nalioth, it gets me cinepaint 18-3 , but this one is 19-110:30
delirenalioth apt-get *install* cinepaint10:30
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naliothdelire: sorry it's been ONE of THOSE days10:30
cmarquseb128: Okay, thanks, then I'll be so brave :)10:30
crz_why are the asterisks ?10:30
crz_and without sudo :)10:30
naliothdelire: i'm amazed i can still touch type10:30
xliuis Cinepaint a painter software?10:30
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delirenalioth: hah no problem. i'm a bit slow myself10:30
crz_xliu, yes10:30
Firetechlevander: mbmod doesn't need any configuration, but needs to be run as root... sensors (the package is named lm-sensors) and is easy to configure, just run "sudo sensors-detect" after installation10:31
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naliothcrz_: disregard the asterisks, just the words10:31
crz_nalioth, yes i got it now10:31
Firetechmbmod -> mbmon10:31
naliothxliu: cinepaint is the new name for filmgimp10:31
crz_nalioth, just want to install the cinepaint from http://fatboy.umng.edu.co/debian/pool/main/c/cinepaint/10:31
delirenalioth: ahah didn't know this10:31
crz_not the one it is installed with apt-get install cinepaint10:31
levanderFiretech: i'm looking at a hotwo on ubuntuforums, i don't have to run a mkdev.sh script for lm-sensors?10:32
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xliuok, i still do not know lots of linux applications :)10:32
naliothcrz_: is there a deb file at that location (for you arctitexture)?10:32
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crz_yes10:32
Firetechlevander: I didn't need to10:32
djm62crz_: then you can try "dpkg -i cinepaint.....deb"10:32
crz_but it has dependancies which i don't have10:32
morchubooHi all, can anyone tell me how to set the default sound device in hoary if you have two sound cards?10:32
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crz_i've already tried dpkg -i cinepaint...deb10:32
naliothcrz_: try "sudo apt-get build-dep cinepaint"10:33
deliremorchuboo: you need to give priority in a file called ~/.asoundrc, if you are using ALSA that is10:33
Firetechlevander: ubuntu uses udev, so there is no need as far as i understand.10:33
macerataI had a problem with sound, but just disabled onboard sound and everything worked after that10:33
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macerataDisabled in the bios, that is10:33
deliremacerata: right10:33
crz_nalioth, will this build-dep for the 19-1 cinepaint (latest i mean.. which do not install with apt-get install)10:34
naliothcrz_: i'm not sure10:34
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djm62nalioth: are you thinking DIY hoary port?10:34
crz_nalioth, what does this command do then :)10:34
minavanahi! can anybody help me to turn work my build-in WiFi (USB, prism2) module with ECS530 laptop?10:34
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lidobhello!!10:35
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morchuboodelire,  - I have done that - and ALSA has changed fine, but selecting ALSA as the default sound sink didnt change what was used for system sounds10:35
morchubooso I need to chage the default for esd10:35
naliothcrz_: that build-dep will install dependencys for cinepaint_0.18.3-610:35
crz_yes.. it did so :(10:35
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nalioth_wrkngotta run10:35
crz_i want deps for 0.19-110:35
deliremorchuboo: ahah, the good old not-so-enlightened-sound-daemon10:35
morchuboolol - yea10:36
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lidobhylas?10:36
crz_hm...10:36
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morchubooahh - i suppose ill just dissable it and put my mic on the same card as my speekers10:36
djm62crz_: you might be able to compile a .deb for your computer10:36
crz_what is http://fatboy.umng.edu.co/debian/pool/main/ is a .. backport or repository ?10:36
djm62crz_: I'm checking right now10:37
PoopinClumpinif i put backports at the bottom of the sources.list will apt check the other repositories first for the packages I want to get?10:37
morchubooI did have it working a while agobut after reinstalling i cant remember how i did it10:37
xliuto set system environment variables, edit /etc/bash.bashrc or /etc/profile?10:37
crz_djm62, thanks10:37
lidobthat's the name of my atletiek10:37
djm62crz_: a repository, but it doesn't have .debs for ubuntu hoary10:37
lidobhylas10:37
djm62crz_: am I ok to PM you?10:37
pfpxliu: /etc/environment (bash.bashrc and profile only affect the shell)10:37
ArkainiumAnyone know why emacs doesn't recognize all my fonts?  Also, is it possible to get fonts antialiased in emacs?10:37
crz_djm62, of course10:37
xliupfp, thanks, got it10:38
djm62crz_: give me 2min while I check it out10:38
crz_okay10:38
signiushow fucked up is the sound in ubuntu10:38
signiusits a proper mess10:39
crz_but so it seems i can't use any debs available10:39
macerataWhat's the problem with sound?10:39
crz_with ubuntu?10:39
signiusthis esd crap10:39
crz_i thought i can use it like debian ..10:39
signiusif i kill esd it worls fine10:39
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ubuntu_hi10:39
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ubuntu_ola10:39
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ubuntu_oi10:39
macerataAll I did was disable onboard sound and everything worked.  I didn't need to mess with esd at all10:39
signiusif i edit esound.conf like on the ubuntu site it still dont work10:40
ubuntu_quien habla espaol????10:40
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rj`is samba broke in hoary?10:40
ubuntu_..10:40
macerataI'd check that first then work from that10:40
rj`its been like that for a week10:40
signiusthe sound on loads of stuff dont work until i kill the esd process10:40
djm62crz_: debian has its own problems.  ubuntu has some debs available at the moment, and will gain more with increased popularity (and the predictable release cycle)10:40
ubuntu_what???10:40
rj`The following packages have unmet dependencies:10:40
rj`  samba: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-1~5.04ubp1 is to be installed10:40
ubuntu_fuck you10:40
rj`:((10:40
Seveasrj`, don't use backports then10:40
Seveassamba is fine in hoary10:40
rj`SeamusLP: im not -- well i remove the backports line for sources.list and did a apt-get update10:41
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Seveasrj`, that will not magically remove backports...10:41
mercwoo, ok, i've got my hostap drivers compiled and installed, how do i make ubuntu understand "use hostap instead of the orinoco you're currently loading" ?10:41
macerataI've had two problems so far: (1) firefox crashes with flash, (2) I can't get the codecs as stated in the unofficial guide10:41
rj`Seveas: so how would one fix this?10:41
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Seveasrj`, by the way: samba in backports is fine too...10:41
xliuIf i set PATH in /etc/environment, will the variable conflict with PATH in bash.bashrc?10:41
HeManHi! Is maintainers interrested in bug-reports even though that im running breezy? I know i won't have the same relyabillity as Hoary, thanks10:42
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macerataI'm still looking around for solutions.  No rush, though.  This is the best distro I've tried by a long shot10:42
rj`Seveas: i get 404 forbidden trying to use backports10:42
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rj`perhaps theres a new repoistory url10:42
rj`?10:42
Seveasrj`, try another mirror then10:42
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Seveassee backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php10:42
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HeManI'm not interrested in getting support, i'd just like to help10:42
Seveasmacerata, unofficial guide sucks10:42
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Seveasmacerata: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support10:43
levanderFiretech: i ran the sensors-detech script, nothing blew up, now, can  you tell me how to see my temps?10:43
macerataOK10:43
macerataCheers10:43
Seveasand codecs can be downloaded from mplayerhq.hu10:43
RouninHm, I'm a bit confused... I've noticed that apt-get has a "source" action which downloads a package's source... But can it do anything with it in terms of installing it, or is it just a novelty feature?10:43
SeveasHeMan, what is the bug..?10:43
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hramrachHello10:43
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rj`Get:4 ftp://ftp2.caliu.info hoary-backports Release.gpg10:44
rj`Ign ftp://ftp2.caliu.info hoary-backports Release.gpg10:44
RouninOh wait, I guess I'm just being stupid10:44
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rj`Seveas: still keep getting that10:44
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signiusis there a way to kill 7175 on startup so i dont have to manually kill esd each time before using kismet10:44
Firetechlevander: the howto on Ubuntuforums tells how you should continue10:44
arjunHi there, I'm having trouble adding a backdoor repository mirror.  Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong10:44
HeManSeveas: Suspend to ram doesn't work on the 2.6.12 kernel10:44
rj`Seveas: not 403 the repository works fine -- but it stil says the package samba is broke10:44
hramrachhehe, the cd validation feature looks like good thing for testing cd-rom :)10:44
HeManSeveas: It works fine with 2.6.1010:44
mercright now i have a wifi card plugged into my pcmcia slot -- ubuntu is loading orinoco drivers for it, which is not what i want -- i have compiled and installed the hostap drivers, how do i instruct ubuntu to load them, and not load the orinoco drivers?10:45
SeveasHeMan, known issue10:45
Juhazsignius, just check off "enable sound server startup" from gnome sound preferences10:45
xiaomaihas anyone tried composite/RenderAccel on an nvidia card... it seems to be wildly unstable10:45
Seveasrj`, the IGN makes no difference10:45
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HeManSeveas: Ok, i'll just stay with 2.6.10 and file no bug-report then10:46
njanon a completely new Sony vaio laptop, hoary picks up the (presumably sata) hard disk and partitions it, but it fails when installing the base system, beacuse it can't copy files to the disk.. it doesn't appear to be a disk problem (I can write files from the console using busybox just fine), or a CD problem with those files (burnt a second CD, same error).. anyone any ideas?10:46
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Seveasrj`,  I installed samba from bacports just fine yesterday10:46
berkesdoes anyone know how I can stop the x server?10:46
Seveas(or maybe the day before that..)10:46
LokeDKI was wondering, with f.ex amule and xmule .. it looks very ugly.. I think it's some sort of system theme.. it's grey etc... is there a way to change it? it's like that in serveral of application10:46
signiuswhere can i find that10:46
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hramrachmerc: easiest: ermove the orinoco drivers :)10:46
Seveasberkes, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop10:46
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hramrachremove10:46
signiusthere doesnt appear to be anything like that under sound & video10:47
berkesSeveas: .... when using kde :)10:47
cccLokeDK: you're probably talking about gtk110:47
Seveassignius, system -> prefs ->sound10:47
orhshow do i get the new version of firefox via the apt-get install command?10:47
Seveassignius, 'disable sound server startup'10:47
zythnjan, you sure it's SATA?10:47
cccLokeDK: there is some tweaking tips in the forums, search for it10:47
merchramrach: lol, thanks :)10:47
Seveasorhs, FF in ubuntu is 1.0.4 in disguise10:47
HeManbtw, i've been running Fedora Core 3 at work and it is more unstable than Breezy...10:47
cccLokeDK: but gtk1 IS ugly. :\10:47
levanderFiretech: any suggestion for a client that will update a UI with information read from lm-sensors?10:48
merciirc there's a file that has the driver->card relation thing10:48
levanderFiretech: all i see is WindowMaker dock applets10:48
Firetechlevander: there is ksensors for kubuntu10:48
FiretechI.E. KDE10:48
LokeDKccc, oh.. no way to change gtk1 theme?10:49
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Firetechphpsysinfo can also read lm-sensors info10:49
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levanderFiretech: nothing for gnome?10:49
Seveasgdesklets?10:49
cmarquseb128: Cool, the GTK packages work fine. But apart from the color wheel in gtk-demo, I didn't notice any difference yet.10:49
hramrachLokeDK: there should be gtk-theme-switch10:49
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xiaomaiFireEgl, gkrellm10:49
levanderFiretech: hoping for something that updates like every couple of seconds of so, not something web based like phpsysinfo probably is10:49
coolkevHeMan: ain't Fedora Core 3 likea final release and suppose to be stable10:50
zythnjan, hello?10:50
hramrachor something like that10:50
Firetechlevander: I use KSensors.10:50
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LokeDKhramrach, I've tried that.. all the themes are the same.. odd.. gtk-theme-switch2 works.. but that's gtk210:50
cccLokeDK: i started using linux quite recently, and i'm avoiding old gtk1 apps because of it's ugliness (such as xmms). :)10:50
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coolkevand it's suppose to be one of the top distro since it's particially sponsered and supported by redhat10:50
zythnjan, do you usually ask questions then wander off?10:50
HeMancoolkev: yepp!10:50
metzenccc: have you tried beep-media-player ?10:50
maceratathanks Seveas.  It worked!10:50
Firetechlevander: I KNOW that there are similar things for gnome.10:50
RouninHas anyone gotten mplayer to work with AC3 sound? Is there a way?10:51
levanderi'm gonna check out gdesklets like seveas suggested, ksensors wants to install too many libraries for me10:51
HeMancoolkev: and amazingly low quality...10:51
RouninThe binary packages don't even link to liba5210:51
zythRounin, CVS myplayer does it I think.10:51
njanzyth, sorry10:51
levanderFiretech: but you don't know the name of top of head?10:51
njanzyth, was trying something with debootstrap ;)10:51
Firetechlevander:  no10:51
coolkevhumm10:51
zythnjan, np.  Go into your BIOS and see if you can change AHCI to ATA for the SATA drive10:51
Vjazccc, but isn't most of XMMS custom anyways?10:51
LokeDKccc, yeah... but xmule and amule.. can't avoid it :/10:51
njanzyth, ah, ty10:51
cccmetzen: yes, i'm using bmp (when listening to a single track or so, otherwise amaroK beats them all :)).10:51
njanzyth, not completely, it's an educated guess based on a dell laptop which had similar problems with a warty CD and had a sata drive - and this one appears in hoary as /dev/sda10:51
Vjazccc, or do you specifically mean the settings windows etc10:51
Rouninzyth: CVS mplayer? But the regular versions of mplayer do it fine on both gentoo and Fedora Core 4... Does it mean they build from CVS?10:52
Juhazcoolkev, fc3 (and more recently, fc4) is well enough, although it has it's warts like any other distro10:52
cccLokeDK: isn't the latest aMule using gtk2?10:52
VjazI use Gnome and I still use amaroK because it's so good.10:52
zythRounin, they're probably more updated versions of mplayer.  Ubuntu (iirc) releases in 6 month blocks.10:52
VjazWell, better than Rhythmbox anyways.10:52
njanzyth, I don't see any options for anything like that whatsoever.10:52
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VjazOr Muin.10:52
coolkevJuhaz are u a user of it?10:52
VjazMuin.*10:52
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VjazMuine*10:52
zythnjan, hurm :/  Notebook model please?10:52
metzenamarok is nice, i like using MPD though, im currently writing a rhythmbox clone to control mpd10:52
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cccVjaz: me too, it's the best music player ever imo.10:52
mercmpd rocks10:53
hramrachlevander: what about gkrellm?10:53
njanzyth, Vaio VGN-S4XP10:53
cccamaroK, that is.10:53
LokeDKccc, Dunno.. I apt-get it.. but it's very ugly10:53
Rouninzyth: So it's either switch to breezy or forget it10:53
zythnjan, k, gimme a min, gotta look it up10:53
njanzyth, fairly new, and there's an (unresolved) issue about a similar issue in debian unstable with a S3XP10:53
Vjazmpd is pretty good too... different though10:53
Juhazcoolkev, yeah, I've used all the cores as well as hoary10:53
zythRounin, or manually install mplayer10:53
Juhazcoolkev, and I really don't see a need to be fanatic towards either, they're both pretty good10:53
Rouninzyth: Yup... Thanks10:53
njans/issue about/bug concerning/10:53
VjazOne thing I like about amaroK is that it updates its database automatically.10:53
metzenVjaz: i like how you can keep your music going if you need to restart x10:53
cccLokeDK: yeah :/ i'm using linuxdc++ and azureus (bittorrent) for p2p:ing...10:53
hramrachLokeDK: maybe the theme-swithch is broken. you can always edit .gtkrc by hand :)10:53
llebergHow do i get a public hub-list in the direct connect client?10:54
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zythnjan, 100GB drive, right?10:54
LokeDKccc, yeah I'm using azureus too.. but small files are easier to get with emule10:54
LokeDKhramrach, ah.. I'll try that10:54
mozlu10:54
zythnjan, whoa, nice notebook.  K, it's SATA.  Hangon a min.10:54
cccLokeDK: that's what i use linuxdc++ for =) i like direct connect better. but that's a matter of taste...10:54
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Vjazmetzen, Yeah, it is nice.10:55
LokeDKccc, easier to get busted hehe :)10:55
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LokeDKin gtkrc.. include "/usr/share/themes/ThinIce/gtk/gtkrc" .. ThinIce.. is that the ugly theme?10:56
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hramrachYou can try to look if there is such a theme  - and try to change to another if you don not like this one10:56
njanzyth, yes and yes :p10:56
njanzyth, it'd be even nicer if it had ubuntu on it ;)10:57
cccLokeDK: maybe :)10:57
zythnjan, you're sure there's nothing in your BIOS related to SATA settings?10:57
hramrachI'd try ShinyMetal if it is there - it should be at least noticably different.10:57
lcddcool, i got powernow-k8 working by updating the bios10:57
signiusok cool that seems to have resolved alot of my sound issues10:58
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zythnjan, look for 'Legacy ATA mode' or 'PATA' mode10:58
signiusdont have the sounds for the ubuntu desktop now tho10:58
njanzyth, in the bios?10:58
zythnjan, yep10:59
njanzyth, nothing even vaguely like it10:59
njanno options pertaining to hard drives whatsoever, actually.10:59
zythnjan, :( weird.  Silly sony.10:59
LokeDKGoogle must help me then11:00
zythI'm not sure what to tell you.  Are you deparitioning the entire drive, and making it Linux-only?11:00
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njanzyth, I was dual-booting it, but I may or may not have wiped out the xp partition, so it's quite possible I'll just make it linux only anyway ;)11:00
signiusreally starting to get to grips with kismet now :)11:00
hramrachLokeDK: did you try to change the line?11:00
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njanzyth, had some nasty errors booting windows by accident after a session with fdisk :p11:00
njan(make your own mind up where the words 'by' and 'accident' go in that sentence)11:01
LokeDKhramrach, which last line?11:01
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hramrachLokeDK: the one in .gtkrc which includes the theme11:01
zythnjan, you could try trashing the entire partiton table, and letting linux use the whole disk.  That might work, if it was having partition issues.  The fact that fdisk sees it implies the driver for your drive is in the kernel.11:02
LokeDKnope.. but that theme exist hramrach , it should work.. but it doesn't .. gtk-theme-switch is broken.. it can't apply11:02
njanzyth, ok.. but if I have no windows for work tomorrow, it's your fault :p11:02
zythnjan, LOL11:02
njans/windows/os/11:02
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hramrachLokeDK: ThinIce is gray iirc.11:03
njanbyebye, partition table.. (this laptop boots *really* quickly 0:)11:03
zythyeah, I saw the specs... *drool*11:03
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hramrachLokeDK: if you change the line, you whave to start a new app to see the change11:03
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paul555hi can anyone help me with tvcard problem?11:04
LokeDKyeah I know.. well i could try to install another theme.. sec11:04
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Schuylerhi folks11:04
Schuylerwhat's the recommended way to configure a printer in Ubuntu?11:05
tiglionabbitSchuyler: system->admin->printers11:05
zythSchuyler, System -> Admin -> Printing I think11:05
Schuylerok11:05
SchuylerI'm not using GNOME because this machine doesn't have enough RAM11:06
LokeDKhttp://pastebin.com/303141 got this errmsg now11:06
Schuylercan you give me some idea of which program that actually is? I can run it from the command line11:06
hramrachpaul555: no. You did not say what is the problem.11:06
njanzyth, recreating partition table/mkfsing now :)11:06
tiglionabbitwell the command is gnome-cups-manager11:06
tiglionabbitif you have the utilities installed11:06
zythnjan, yay.11:07
paul555well i have a pinnacle pctv pro card ubuntu seems to configure it ok but i can't get any sound in xawtv i use11:07
Schuylergnome-cups-manager11:07
zythif it can mkfs, I see zero reason for it to not install.11:07
Schuylerthat's what I was looking for11:07
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xliuhi11:08
tiglionabbithello11:08
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xliuis "user memory " the same to "used memory"?11:09
hramrachpaul555: try to run alsamixer and turn on all channels. It may be muted.11:09
tiglionabbitxliu: where does it say it?11:09
paul555wait11:09
xliuIn System monitor, it shows "user memory:132MB of 256MB, 55.2% "11:10
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xliubut in "free" command, i see that "used memory :249MB", it's different with System monitor11:11
tiglionabbitit appears to be used memory.  When I launch another program, it goes up11:11
paul555hramrach i am an idiot i tred many times to unmute line-in i had connected the tv card but when i unmuted the analog mix is ok.Thanks11:12
xliuyes, but why the results of System Monitor and Free command are different?11:12
searcher`xliu: free probably doesn't detract cached memory11:12
searcher`the kernel keeps a lot of stuff in memory even if it's not used (unused memory is wasted memory)11:13
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searcher`but it can instantly toss out this used cache should it be needed for the more memory hungry stuff11:13
hramrachpaul555: np11:13
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xliusearcher, do you mean that the "used memory" reported in "free" contains some blocks of memory not used?11:14
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searcher`the memory _is_ being used, but for cache11:14
xliuok11:14
searcher`i think top shows you this as well11:14
paul555well if i am right with alsactl store i save my mixer settings?11:14
searcher`Mem:    515732k total,   510784k used,     4948k free,    20188k buffers11:14
searcher`see11:14
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hramrachpaul555: probably/11:14
searcher`it it says on 5Mb free for me (out of 512Mb)11:15
hramrachbut it should get sotred automagically on shutdown11:15
hramrachstored11:15
searcher`but it also has 200Mb buffered (cached)11:15
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searcher`no, that's twenty11:15
searcher`sorry :-)11:15
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xliuok,thanks for your explain, i still need to diguest that11:16
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xliudigest11:16
PaloDeQuesoSo let's say I installed kubuntu (debian) on the first parition on my hard drive, then I installed windows on the next, and my swap is the last partition, I installed windows second and it said that it had to change which parition had a boot flag to the windows, I said ok, whatever. So then I booted up a gentoo live disk and chrooted back into debian and did grub-install /dev/hda and only linux shows up in the list, no windows???11:17
searcher`PaloDeQueso: you probably forgot to add an entry for windows to /boot/grub/menu/lst11:17
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SeveasPaloDeQueso, add it to the menu.lst then :)11:17
searcher`/boot/grub/menu.lst11:18
PaloDeQuesooh, okey dokey.11:18
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NewUbuntubiehey folks - just completed the Ubuntu install on my machine and I feel liberated. But the net still dont work and my local ISP is a bunch of frikkin' idiots - does anyone have a couple of minutes to try and help me configure the internet on my machine ?11:19
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NewUbuntubieyow? please?11:20
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paul555bye11:21
searcher`NewUbuntubie: what isn't working, can you be more specific?11:21
xliuSwap:   514040k total,        0k used,   514040k free,    95332k cached, where does the 95332K comes from?11:21
NewUbuntubiesearcher: i enter in my ip's and DNS servers correctly, connect the cable, and it tells me the Ethernet isn't configured or the settings are incorrect ..11:21
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SeveasNewUbuntubie, have you used the grapical tools or simply edited the config file?11:22
krmeljivihi people11:22
NewUbuntubiethe graphical tools11:22
SeveasNewUbuntubie, and do you use a static IP address?11:22
NewUbuntubieyes. static.11:22
NewUbuntubie(im sorry - i am new to linux - just switching over from years of windows hell.. )11:22
hramrachbye11:23
SeveasNewUbuntubie, please paste the contents of the file /etc/network/interfaces on paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:23
xliuI am confused about Top, "Swap:   514040k total,        0k used,   514040k free,    95332k cached", where does the 95332K comes from?11:23
NewUbuntubiegimme a sec .. ill have to manually re-type (i'm online rite now thru another machine)11:23
krmeljivii have a problem with playing mp3... can anyone help?11:23
Seveaskrmeljivi: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support11:24
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krmeljivithx Seveas11:24
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moirehi11:24
moirewhat is the language here?11:25
xliueng11:25
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Seveasenglish11:25
Seveasbut there are localized channels too11:25
moireok, i try the following in a root terminal ...11:25
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xTinaOne more try: Anyone around with debian-installer preseeding knowledge?11:26
moirefind eclipse-gtk/ -type d -print0 -exec chmod 755 {} ;11:26
moirewhat is wrong?11:26
moire-exec does not work11:26
keikozyou need putting \11:27
keikozbefore the ;11:27
moirewhere?11:27
moirecan you give the complete correct string?11:27
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keikozi think find eclipse-gtk/ -type d -print0 -exec chmod 755 {} \;11:28
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Seveasor simpy | xargs chmod 755 instead of -exec blabla11:28
moireyes it worked :)11:29
moirethx11:29
keikozno pb11:29
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moireumm xargs was it i does not remember ;)11:29
moirebtw: ubuntu is nice, i like it11:29
NewUbuntubieSeveas: i typed in my /etc/network/interface file on the paste channel . make any sense ?11:30
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SeveasNewUbuntubie, is that the *complete* file?11:31
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Seveasbecause it is missing exactly what you need...11:31
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NewUbuntubieSeveas: no - lemme re-type the complete thing - the other lines are just indicators - This file describes the network interfaces bla bla ... no code ..11:33
lampshadeSo is Ubuntu based off the testing of Debian or the Unstable?  Or is it its own thing about now?  I'm kinda confused11:33
Seveasah ok11:33
Seveasall starting with a # I guess?11:33
NewUbuntubieshould i re-type those ? but yea, it does look like its missing something - is this something u can help me with, or am i going to need details from my ISP ?11:33
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NewUbuntubieyes. all starting with the hash sign .11:33
Seveasno it's ok, if you have your IP/netmask settings11:34
Seveashang on11:34
tiglionabbitlampshade: it's its own thing11:34
moiregood night11:34
NewUbuntubiei have IP, Subnet, and DNS, yea ..11:34
LinuxJoneslampshade, unstable11:34
d4rksh4delol firefox crashes all the time i try to set certificate11:35
tiglionabbitd4rksh4de: happens to me too..11:35
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omenkaNBA11:35
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omenkaFINALS11:35
omenkaWHO WONS?11:35
omenkaWINS?11:35
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tiglionabbitomenka: do linux users watch sports?11:36
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xiaomaitiglionabbit, absolutely not11:36
tiglionabbitI thought we were too busy reading manuals11:36
guselque mierda es esto11:36
omenkajust kiddin.......let,s face what we know best:)11:36
Vjazgusel, wrong language11:36
guselbay11:37
omenkabut i,m a basketball fan though11:37
skel_i thtink pistons will win11:37
merckaudiocreator = cool11:37
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omenkai hope the spurs get their acts together11:37
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mercpistons are gonna whoop on 'em!11:37
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omenkatim duncan will step up11:38
mercthen ben and sheed will come in, along with tay tay..rip..etc..11:38
azumangain breezy something seems to have gone wrong with amule. it can't install as libwxgtk2.4 isn't installable. That package says it has been replaced by libwxgtk2.4c2. Is there a place I should repot this / is it already know?11:38
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mib924new to ubuntu ..having problems with mp3 files..?11:39
mercthen we'll put darco out there just to kick ginobli in the face.11:39
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Stealth890hey guys, i need some help badly :( im installing Ubuntu for my Uncle's comp and gnome is hanging!11:39
mercthen we'll throw a cup at him!11:39
Seveasmib924: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support11:39
Stealth890the install is all done and stuff, gdm loads, i log in, and i get a peach screen ebhind, mouse moves, but gnome doesnt load11:39
mib924ok ..11:39
Stealth890its a brand new hoary install11:39
Stealth890any ideas?11:40
SeveasStealth890, ouch :|11:40
Seveasthat's too odd11:40
Stealth890AMD 3500+, 80GB SATA, Geforce 6200...11:40
Stealth890i cant figure it out...:(11:40
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Seveasdo you get the splash screen after login?11:40
VjazStealth890, Try disabling apic.11:40
tiglionabbitStealth890: that sucks.  Try running apt-get or aptitude from console and installing another window manager?  Like kubuntu-desktop or xfce11:40
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VjazStealth890, pass "noapic" to your kernel11:40
VjazStealth890, and maybe "nolapic" too11:41
SeveasVjaz, just out of curiosity: why would you think that that will help?11:41
Stealth890ok, how would i go about doing that?11:41
Stealth890i tried kubuntu-desktop via apt-get11:41
VjazSeveas, because I had the same problem11:41
Stealth890that didnt11:41
Stealth890work11:41
Stealth890becuz then my sessions window disappeared11:41
SeveasStealth890, reboot, when the grub menu comes op hit escape11:41
Stealth890it was blank11:41
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VjazStealth890, when the computer boots up, you can interrupt it with ESC.11:41
Seveasgo to the line with your kernel11:41
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Seveashit E to edit it11:41
loplyevening folks11:41
VjazStealth890, then you'll get a menu with boot options11:41
Stealth890k...11:41
Seveasand add nolapic and noapic to that line11:41
Pop_pa_FrEaKhey Seveas I installed ubuntu on a secondary pc and put fluxbox on it but now when I try to run anything that needs the root password it tells me that my password is wrong11:42
Vjazah, seveas is explaining it11:42
Stealth890ok, brb, lemme try11:42
xiaomaiPop_pa_FrEaK, just run stuff that requires a password from the shell11:42
SeveasPop_pa_FrEaK, ubuntu by default has no root password but uses sudo11:42
tekkCan someone please tell me why i can't delete files when i am the root user?11:42
loplyquick question, my motherboard has CM8738 audio and I also have an EMU10K1 PCI card but sound isnt working on either of them, I imagine ubuntu comes with modules for both of these though... any idea what it could be?11:42
Seveasif fluxbox wants the root password per se, you need to set it11:42
tiglionabbittekk: how are you trying to delete them?11:43
azumangatekk: I can delete files as root user. Perhaps you could be more specific? :)11:43
Stealth890which line is for the boot options?11:43
Stealth890the one that has the kernel part?11:43
Seveasloply, try modprobe snd_intel_8x011:43
Stealth890ro splash etc.?11:43
VjazStealth890, yes11:43
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VjazStealth890, yes, that one11:43
Stealth890k11:43
VjazStealth890, add noapic and nolapic at the end11:43
Stealth890apic or apci?11:43
VjazStealth890, then press B to boot11:43
VjazStealth890, apic11:43
tiglionabbitVjaz: explain what that will do11:44
tekkOkay, the folder /usr is locked to me.11:44
loplySeveas: Not found. Im led to believe (by lsmod) that emu10k1 driver has picked up my soundblaster card though.11:44
tekkActually, it's /.11:44
Stealth890ok, im trying that to see how it works...11:44
Stealth890not even the LiveCD worked :(11:44
tiglionabbittekk: locked?  I'm asking what method of deleting you are using.  Are you typing rm, using nautilus or konqueror, or what?11:44
Stealth890and i tried Kanotix Live and it loaded...I guess I'll have to install Kubuntu11:44
Stealth890if this doesnt work11:45
SeveasStealth890, kubuntu and ubuntu use the same underlying software11:45
tekkThis is just right-click, delete.11:45
Vjaztiglionabbit, it disables APIC, which is an interrupt controller. It caused trouble on a laptop of mine, so I thought this might be a case of the same problem.11:45
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azumangatekk: did you log into X as root?11:45
tiglionabbittekk: you might need to make sure you are running the file browser as root.  Open a terminal and type "sudo nautilus" and input your password11:45
Stealth890nothing :(11:45
Vjaztiglionabbit, nolapic disables local APIC (APIC for uniprocessors iirc)11:45
Stealth890how long shouldi wait?11:45
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VjazStealth890, it didn't help?11:45
Stealth890its been like half a minute....11:46
tekkIll try that tiglionabbit.11:46
tiglionabbitwhat's apic?11:46
Seveastiglionabbit, NOOOO11:46
Vjazlet me check if I instructed you right with that11:46
Stealth890it usually loads in under 5 seconds11:46
Seveasnever run nautilus with sudo11:46
tiglionabbitwhy not?11:46
Seveasmight cause all kinds of Xauthority problems :|11:46
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tiglionabbitbetter than running X as root11:46
Seveastiglionabbit, root should only use the terminal :)11:46
tiglionabbithow else do you want him to be able to graphically trash files that need root permissions?11:46
Seveastiglionabbit, not :)11:47
azumangaI run X as root all the time11:47
Seveasi'd recommend nautilus too if it didn't cause trouble sometimes11:47
tiglionabbitum, so what are you suggesting?11:47
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Seveastiglionabbit, shell :|11:47
tiglionabbitif this wasn't ubuntu, I'd tell him to rm11:47
azumangaPeople always say "Don't run X as root", but has anyone got a good reason why not to?11:48
Vjazstealth890: I remembered the solution wrong. It was ACPI that you were supposed to disable: Add acpi=force and pci=noacpi to the boot line.11:48
tiglionabbitbut for gui users, a trash that can bring files back is much nicer11:48
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VjazStealth890, Just like we already did but instead of "noapic nolapic" put "acpi=force pci=noacpi" there in the end11:48
tiglionabbitazumanga: because if anyone hacks your session, they have access to everything..   hopefully that never happens11:48
Stealth890ok11:48
Stealth890bb11:48
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Vjazazumanga, also, you could accidentally delete important files11:49
Vjazazumanga, like your kernel or all of your programs11:49
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tiglionabbitVjaz: the point of running the gui file browser as root is to use tha Trash, which makes deleting safer11:49
krmeljiviSeveas, i just did as u told me to, and it works! thx again11:49
whoopsEverytime I reboot, my GNOME panel icons change position how do I fix this?11:49
Seveasrunning X as root is only done by people who don't understand the dangers of it and the benefits of tje Unix security model...11:49
azumangaVjaz: But, I could do that from the command line. and I'm not stupid. I ran windows for years and never accidentally deleted my windows directory11:49
Seveaskrmeljivi, nice!11:49
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azumangaSeveas: What dangers?11:50
topyliVjaz: that's true but frankly all i genuinely care about are the files i have at my home dir :)11:50
zerokillshey guys, sometimes in the middle of a movie my computer freezes up, CTRL+ALT+Backspace and CTRL+ALT+F1 do nothing.. the only thing i can do is switch off the computer.. any ideas what could be causing this problem?11:50
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tiglionabbitzerokills: stop using mplayer and switch to vlc?11:50
searcher`zerokills: sounds like you have the X lockup bug11:50
tekkWow, it was that easy....11:50
searcher`chek the forums11:50
Vjaztiglionabbit, well you could use a command line tool that moves files to Trash11:51
searcher`check11:51
mpupuwhy is it that most gnome apps don't have OnlyShowIn=GNOME in their .desktop? it messes with kde menus11:51
Seveaszerokills, yeah, you're watching too hot pr0n :p11:51
Seveasthe CPU overheats :)11:51
Vjaztiglionabbit, dunno of any but you could just make an alias to rm11:51
zerokillstiglionabbit, i do use VLC11:51
mattyJis there anyway to read .chm files under linux?11:51
tekkSorry for bothering you with a stupid question, this is my first day on linux. :(11:51
azumangatopyli: Also true :) Thats my major reason I think the argument "Viruses in linux won't be as bad, as they won't be root". As me they can a) empty my home directory and b) access the internet (of course, there are other good reasons linux is better protected from viruses. Root isn't it)11:51
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tekkThanks for the help.11:51
Seveasmpupu, that's work in progress, will be fixed for Breezy11:51
tiglionabbitzerokills: oh.  then uh, listen to searcher`11:51
Vjazthat would be a good idea actually11:51
fabioHello all ;)11:51
Stealth890darn it, still didnt work, and it made network interfaces hang...11:51
Seveastekk, there are no stupid questions :)11:51
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Vjazbind "rm" to "mv $1 /tmp/.Trash" or something11:51
zerokillsSeveas, yea my computer likes the lesbians11:51
searcher`azumanga: actually, there are a lot of Window viruses that use local exploits. the same could be done for linux as well11:52
SeveasVjaz, not gonna work :)11:52
LinuxJonesmattyJ, xchm11:52
zerokillssearcher`, is that really a bug?11:52
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Vjaztopyli, well that's fine, but you could accidentally remove *everything* or render your system useless11:52
LinuxJonesmattyJ, it's in the universe repository11:52
searcher`zerokills: depends on your standpoint11:52
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searcher`if you don't have local users, no11:52
SeveasVjaz, alias rm='mv --target-directory=~/.Trash' <-- works better11:52
fnoycan some one plaes help me i have a problem with firefox11:52
azumangaVjaz: Seriously. How likely are you while running X as root fora  brief while to accidentally delete everything? How often do you hear of windows users who accidentally deleted their windows directory?11:53
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Stealth890from what im reading it could be the nvidia drivers?11:53
tiglionabbitoh now I remember.  You don't want to run internet-related programs as root, because people could utilize buffer-overrun bugs in it to cause that program to do funny things if it's unsecure.  And if it has root, it can mess you up11:53
Seveasfnoy, the problem being..?11:53
Stealth890can someone tell me that ocmmand to do after you isntall them to activate it?11:53
Seveastiglionabbit, for instance...11:53
VjazSeveas, I didn't mean that to be actual working script.11:53
Stealth890its in synaptics comments on the install11:53
fnoyi am a real n00b on linux11:53
SeveasStealth890, sudo nvidia-glx-enable11:53
tiglionabbitI don't see what's wrong with using nautilus as root though11:53
SeveasVjaz, i did ;)11:54
Stealth890ok, im gonna try installing those11:54
fnoyyes11:54
fnoyi got it11:54
fnoynevermind11:54
fnoyXD11:54
Seveas:D11:54
searcher`tiglionabbit: the system is setup in a way that you don't need to be root to get your daily work done11:54
Seveasglad we could help you fnoy ;)11:54
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searcher`tiglionabbit: although you _can_ work as root all the time11:54
Uyuuhi, is there anyway to see if a library is not being used by any application so i can safely delete it?11:54
SeveasUyuu, debfoster11:54
azumangasearcher`: Thats true. However sometimes you need to do some root filed moving / deleting, and why not do it in a GUI?11:54
topyliVjaz: yeah. and i'm not advocating root usage here.11:54
tiglionabbitsearcher`: I'm not talking about using it all the time.  I'm talking about using it when you want to use a gui to modify protected files11:55
tmdcaHi. I just wonder a thing; Is it very hard to make a drawing board to work? o.O11:55
Seveasazumanga, usually you do not need to do this11:55
searcher`tiglionabbit: just create a launcher for a root nautilus window11:55
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searcher`next to the root terminal icon :-)11:55
tiglionabbitsearcher`: what's the difference?11:55
searcher`nothing11:55
Seveasazumanga, since a user should only touch files in his ~/11:55
searcher`you can do anything you like11:55
searcher`that's the whole beauty of it11:55
tiglionabbitSeveas: then why did you complain when I said to say 'sudo nautilus'?11:55
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azumangaSeveas: True, I can think of about 5 times while running ubuntu I've needed to move files around as root. However, in that case why not do it in a GUI?11:56
Stealth890sudo nvidia-glx-enable didnt work...11:56
tiglionabbitoops wrong name11:56
Stealth890are you sure thats it? :(11:56
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Seveasazumanga, a user who needs to move files as rood should know the CLI ;)11:56
searcher`hehe11:56
zerokillsStealth890, ill look it up for you real quick, gimme a minute11:56
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SeveasI'm moving files around as root all the time11:56
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Seveasthe CLI is so much faster with that :)11:57
netsurfanyone knolageable on the grub boot loader11:57
azumangaI spend most of my life on the CLI11:57
Will__Turns out my bad install was a crappy CD. I blame nero.11:57
Seveasnetsurf, just ask your question :)11:57
netsurfok11:57
azumangawhen you have a big directory and want to grab a bunch of random files, I find a GUI can be quicker11:57
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tiglionabbitI do to, but I believe it should be possible for users to use a gui for it too11:57
topyliazumanga: use mc in a terminal if the commands are too hard :)11:57
searcher`SeamusLP: `rm -rf / directory' look familiar? just one space too many11:57
azumangahold ctrl and go click click click11:57
Seveasaaah, mc :D11:57
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Seveasmc, my love11:57
searcher`you can always find ways to mess up anything11:57
Seveaswith the great vfs11:57
searcher`vfs?11:58
Seveasvirtual file system11:58
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Seveascd /#sh:dkaarsem@remote.science.uva.nl/home/dkaarsem/11:58
azumangawait, so it's n00b to use a graphical GUI, but l33t to use a text GUI? what kind of sense does that make? ;)11:58
Seveasand i'm moving files to the university server :)11:58
Stealth890I GOT IT!11:58
Stealth890w00t11:59
Stealth890thx zerokills, i found the command dude :)11:59
Seveasazumanga, mc is just the best thing since clusterssh :)11:59
searcher`azumanga: cool, does that mean i'm l33t? :-)11:59
Stealth890thx guys for all the help11:59
Stealth890it was the drivers11:59
Stealth890tricky 6200...11:59
zerokillsStealth890, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable11:59
SeveasStealth890, great!11:59
Stealth890lata11:59
zerokillsStealth890, oh, yw hehe11:59
Stealth890;)11:59
Stealth890cya11:59
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zerokillslater11:59
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searcher`i love working in Xorg though, you can keep more terminals on screen that way ;-)11:59
Seveasscreen :)12:00

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