=== dragec_avej je doseo nazoj. === dragec_avej is now known as _dragec2 [12:02] dan_: if they're not in the repositories, then you'd have to individually get each one. Dependency hell; debian-systems (and most, now) generally avoid it, but still sometimes... [12:02] apokryphos, well..3 months after I got my ADSL they gave new customers 24mbit for same as I got my 10mbit...so I think they could be gentle but no, so why not another ISP ? [12:02] ztonzy: it should work perfectly with the mouse-wheel; it does here [12:02] apokryphos, besides...I dont own my modem, just borrow it === m-fox [~m-fox@port-212-202-8-124.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:02] ztonzy: yeouch. Speeds there are amazing [12:03] apokryphos, yes...I could get same speed now too...just pay one time fee, same as per month [12:03] how much do you pay for it, roughly? [12:03] hmm [12:03] 42.90 EUR / Month [12:04] 10/1 mbps [12:04] apokryphos: can I not just get an older version of the package somewhere? [12:04] Check debian.org, dan_ [12:04] dan_: if it's around, sure. Probably worth looking around for [12:05] apokryphos, hmm installed...cant find the theme in look and themes :-\ [12:06] ztonzy: very nice for the price. I'm paying around the same for my 4 meg (but it's by far the cheapest around for the price). [12:06] ztonzy: it should be under Apearrance and Themes > Styles [12:06] apokryphos, nice...we have kind of broadband war here (again) among the ISP's [12:06] apokryphos, hmm ok I check [12:06] heh [12:07] apokryphos: nmorse: thanks [12:07] apokryphos, it isnt there [12:07] :( [12:07] you did make and make install, and that went ok? [12:08] dan_: not a problem [12:08] nmorse: where would I go to find oold packages [12:08] apokryphos, yes [12:08] There should be a packages link on the side of the page on debian.org [12:08] Searching stable is your best bet [12:08] packages.debian.org [12:08] doesn't seem to be there [12:09] darn [12:09] do you recall the version you were using previously, by any chance? === Harnak [~Harnak@203-109-154-193.akl.ihugultra.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu === Harnak [~Harnak@203-109-154-193.akl.ihugultra.co.nz] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:10] 0.3.7 I think [12:10] The SourcForge page should have the older versions stored somewhere [12:11] no, it seems their first SF release was 0.3.9 [12:11] Okay === Elsidox [~Elsidox@CPE-69-76-103-192.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #Kubuntu === _malte [~malte@p5481F04C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:12] I am very close of just compiling it from source :-( [12:12] That won't help, as you'll still need the other new packages, I guess... [12:13] I know [12:13] I found the source of older packages, if you want them.. [12:14] http://ftp.citkit.ru/pub/sourceforge/w/wl/wlassistant/ [12:14] If it works it'll be worth it; compiling isn't that bad. Ask Gentoo ;) [12:14] oh, that looks good [12:14] I used to compile all of KDE myself [12:15] You know, you can compile KDE faster than Mozilla Firefox? [12:16] no way [12:16] Yeah, yeah you can [12:16] all of KDE? [12:16] I ran Gentoo for months [12:16] I compiled all of the KDE packages (and X.org for that matter) faster than I could get Firefox to compile [12:17] hah [12:17] Firefox's source is the devil [12:17] Riddell: is it just me, or is Kexi the only application in the KOffice source tarball that doesn't compile with dpkg-buildpackage? [12:19] nmorse: that's deliberate [12:19] Why is that deliberate? [12:20] nmorse: you can get the breezy source packages from archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool, you'll need to remove the postgresql configure option in debian/rules [12:20] nmorse: because the kexi that comes with koffice is out of date [12:20] So the Koffice version was just ditched for debian based systems? [12:21] Since it will always be behind? [12:25] archive.ubuntu.org is using the development version of Apache? [12:27] yes [12:27] Which question was that a yes to? [12:27] yes debian and kubuntu are packaging kexi separately from koffice === m-fox [~m-fox@port-212-202-8-124.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [12:30] Okay [12:30] Does the non-KOffice version still work in the KOffice workspace shell? [12:33] I would bet not, as it probably is the one they're making cross platform, and not dependent on KDE [12:34] So why don't we just package 2 and name one kexi-koffice? === dan [~dan@209-6-203-55.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:35] okay, success! [12:35] I fulfilled the dependencies and it worked [12:40] cool :) [12:47] last question, I promise: [12:47] what is the best place to get the latest beta foro OO 2.0? === _mark [~mark@pool-70-104-154-62.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:49] <_mark> Hello all. Just installed kubuntu and LOVE it. ON install it didn't give me choice to install lilo over grub. I want to use lilo. How do I switch ? [12:49] <_mark> or reinstall so to use lilo instead? [12:49] <_mark> i did apt-get install lilo, then liloconfig and /sbin/lilo and rebooted, but grub still comes up [12:52] <_mark> Is anyone here? [12:52] yeah, but I do not know the answer ;-) [12:53] but I am also interested in getting graphics bootup going [12:53] <_mark> when i installed mandrake it gave me choice of lilo or grub didn't see that here [12:53] right, MDK is a lot nicer for the average Joe [12:54] th ereason I am using Kubuntu on this computer is that it is by far the best distro to run on the Inspiron 6000 [12:54] (I am actually here on a friend's computer) [12:54] <_mark> i wiped out my mandrake. So far I really like ubuntu, speed is way higher than mandrake [12:54] I am personally running MDK 10.2 on my VAIO [12:55] but you really have to hunt for your setup programs [12:55] <_mark> not really, there is a link to a different set of repositiores. it has almost everything i use === \sh is now known as \sh_away [12:56] I was mainly referring to hardware and system setup [12:56] <_mark> oic [12:58] Yeah, (K)Ubuntu has great hardware support [12:58] And I miss lilo as well [12:58] But I haven't taken the time to try to reinstall lilo myself [12:58] <_mark> Does anyone know how to install lilo voer grub? it didn't seem to work for me [12:58] You may have to lilo /dev/hda [12:58] Reinstalling the MBR with lilo is the way to go [12:59] man lilo has all the info on that [12:59] <_mark> yeah i tried that and it didn't take.. [12:59] <_mark> apt-get install lilo, liloconfig /sbin/lilo still boots grub [12:59] And I wonder if there is a wiki on it on ubuntu.com? [12:59] <_mark> i'm looking, i dont see it. I think regular ubunto gives you choice but not kunbuntu [01:00] Wait, did you try 'lilo /dev/hda mbr' (I think that's the command, been too long) [01:00] Neither give choice [01:00] I installed from Ubuntu [01:00] <_mark> they should let you choose. [01:00] <_mark> I'll try that command [01:01] I wish they would let me choose, though I bet one could get lilo using one of the alternate filesystems at install [01:01] does anyone know of any internet courses for linux? [01:02] that might help me to learn ubuntu/kubuntu better? [01:02] Can't think of any for Kubuntu/Ubuntu [01:02] :( [01:03] There are several places like brainbench.com that offer meaningless certificates in general linux administration [01:03] But that's not what you're looking for [01:03] i really want to learn the wright way [01:03] so that i can do more things on my own [01:04] and help my freinds who appear to be interested in the os [01:04] Hmm, what do you want to learn? [01:05] linux.org has some tutorials for using the command line (called Linux 101) [01:05] i need to be able to help them with tech support basicly [01:05] <_mark> I'd just get a regular book on linux itself that is the best. For most things it is all the same [01:05] Get a Debian book if possible [01:05] ok do they have like debian for dummies or somthin? [01:05] Hmm, I don't know about the For Dummies series (they prefer Red Hat/FC) [01:05] i like this specific distro [01:06] it's the easyest to use i think [01:06] i mean what could be easyer than apt-get ^^_^ [01:06] Yeah, Kubuntu is basically Debian Sid, but updated every 6 months instead [01:06] FoamY_is_away: there's a lot of stuff on the Net for basic introductions to Linux and the like; you'll want to check some tutorials/guides [01:06] So any general Debian book will have the info you need probably [01:06] I learned bash shell scripting from Debian 2.1 GNU/LINUX UNLEASHED [01:06] ok because one of my freinds on the net has a really weard problem [01:07] whats bash shell? [01:07] It's the shell you use when you open Konsole [01:07] oh ok [01:07] i see [01:07] no matter how he tryes to do it he can't install ubuntu on his box [01:08] Hmm, there really does need to be a beginner's course in this stuff I suppose [01:08] But where would it be put? [01:08] and it's driving me nuts we tryed the cd's they sent .iso cds [01:08] and it won't use them at all [01:08] www.ubuntu.com/learn? [01:08] that would be a good place ^_^ [01:08] Ok, step 1: does his computer boot from other CD's? [01:09] yes and it's configured in the bios [01:09] to do so too [01:09] Okay, step 1: check [01:09] i amde him clean his cd rom as well with a lens cleaner [01:09] Step 2 (which should be step 0): does his CD drive work? [01:10] he can install win 98 and xp pro [01:10] from cd without boot disk [01:10] OK [01:10] What error does he get on boot then? [01:10] thats the weardest part nothing [01:10] it just dosen't boot from the disk at all [01:11] i've never herd of such a thing [01:11] Ok, when you put the CD in in Windows, what are the contents? [01:11] it has just the autorun.inf and various config and .cab files [01:12] OK [01:12] yea it's got me stumped [01:12] So you're sure it was burned properly? [01:13] he orderd the disks from the shipping shop [01:13] they had to have burnt 10 disks wrong [01:13] Okay, so that doesn't leave a whole lot of options [01:13] Hmm [01:13] yea it's weard [01:14] every single person i handed my 10 out to installed it without hassel [01:14] this is the first time i ever herd of a set of disks not working [01:14] not even the live cd [01:14] But his won't even boot the disk? [01:14] nope [01:15] Not any of the disks of any variety? [01:15] he tryed redhat too and it woulden't boot it [01:15] his pops got it for him [01:15] Wait, so his CDROM drive only boots Windows Install CD's? [01:15] That's messed up [01:15] thats what it almost seems like === otep[bot_mode] is now known as otep [01:16] i herd a rumor but his box is a little to old [01:16] Sounds like maybe his BIOS is busted and Windows has a fix for it Debian doesn't === _tron [~tron@201.247.88.96] has joined #kubuntu [01:16] I've heard of such things as broken BIOS's before === _tron [~tron@201.247.88.96] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [01:16] the rumor is certain computer manufactures are making motherboards [01:17] that are built for windows only due to an exstra chip on them [01:17] Look, Palladium (a.k.a. the rumor) is not in production yet [01:17] i can't conferm if it's true [01:17] I know, I keep tabs on it (mostly due to the fact that it seems stupid) === FoamY_is_away is now known as ChurcH_of_FoamY [01:17] yea [01:17] i know [01:17] it's the weardest thing is it possibly trye? [01:17] It hasn't happened yet AFAIK [01:18] true [01:18] thats what i thought [01:18] Anyway, has he tried swapping in another CDROM drive? [01:18] His CDROM drive may have a broken instruction set or somesuch too [01:18] he would but he dosen't have one [01:18] Then we have a minor problem [01:18] i have run acrost computers that had a burnt cd rom [01:18] he has network boot though [01:19] Bah, make him an install floppy [01:19] it'd be nice if i could figure out how to do it acrost the net [01:19] hmm thats not a bad idea do they work well? [01:19] As well as floppies ever do [01:19] ok will it give him ubuntu? [01:20] or will it be a diffrent type of install? [01:20] Hmm, it should work with either really, but I don't even know where to get said install floppy [01:21] time for google [01:21] I know Debian Sarge has them, but I have no idea on Kubuntu (then again, my Woody rescue CD saved the day on more distros than I can count) [01:21] nice [01:21] i want to crete a rescue disk [01:21] i hear there handy [01:22] Hmm, gfloppy should work for that [01:22] If you want a rescue floppy [01:22] But I prefer rescue CD's [01:23] i have a burner in my box and it likes linux alot ^_^ [01:24] hmm lots of stuff for making a debian install floppy but nothing for ubuntu [01:26] I love kernel 2.6 since there's no more need for ide-scsi for CD-RW drives [01:26] Linux was never ready for the desktop until 2.6 === Nakkel [~nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:27] i think it's just about ready now [01:27] i orderd a 100 cd's and am hoping to drop them off at local business [01:28] some of them are gona charge me for shelf space though [01:28] so in some places i'll have to put a price tags on the disk [01:28] >.< [01:28] To hand out a free product? [01:28] yea go figure [01:28] Crap, just bring a little stand like the free newspapers and Auto Traders go in [01:29] hmm never thought of that i have a welder to in the basement [01:29] i could just make it out of thick coat hangers or something i suppose [01:29] Just make a little CD stand and see if they'll let you put that on a counter somewhere [01:29] the computer shops are gonna let me have shelf space for free [01:30] Excellent [01:30] yea i figure customers go in there se the nice cd's and ask how much they are [01:30] You should tell them to find somewhere in the area who'll work on contract doing tech support for it [01:30] then they tell them there for free [01:30] s/somewhere/someone/ [01:30] yea thats why i wanna learn it [01:30] What CD's are you putting there? [01:31] Live I hope? [01:31] the new hoary 5.04 cd's that i orderd [01:31] Perhaps Live/Install? [01:31] yea they come with install and live [01:31] and there really very nice [01:31] Excellent [01:31] the artwork is superb and the case isn't flimsy like i thought it would be [01:32] even the cd's don't have the appearance of being cheap [01:32] Hmm, I bet that art is distributed for free too [01:32] they look like good quality [01:32] yup [01:32] If I had one of those new DVD burners that burns the disk label on I'd make sets of those Live/Install DVD's [01:33] oh the um whats it called [01:33] hp makes em [01:33] shit what is it [01:33] Light-something === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:33] light scribe [01:33] there we go ^_^ [01:33] that joged the old 72pin ram [01:33] LaCIE makes those too, even for the Mac [01:33] wow nice [01:33] They're cheaper and external too [01:34] Saw one of the HP ones at Wal-Mart the other day too [01:34] nice [01:34] thats one of the places i'm gonna drop some cd's [01:34] Wal-Mart Electronics counter? [01:35] Too bad you don't have high-quality brochures about Kubuntu to give out as well [01:35] i can put them in the electronics isle [01:35] If you had brochures too, you could really use a stand, with holders for both [01:35] And the big Kubuntu/Ubuntu logo welded into the front [01:36] Hmm, I wonder [01:36] that would be awsome [01:36] Someone could probably contract out to Canonical to do that and get paid for it [01:36] i would do it in a heart beat [01:36] but i have exstra materials [01:36] so i'd do it for nothin [01:37] as long as they made mention of my name [01:37] someware [01:37] brb === ChurcH_of_FoamY is now known as FoamY_is_AwaY === str [~str@216.230.136.242] has joined #kubuntu [01:38] Hi every1 [01:39] hello [01:39] any1 has already been able to intsall customizegoogle in firefox? [01:39] There's a problem with installing the extensions [01:39] In Firefox, type about:config and hit enter [01:40] Then in the filter box, type vendor [01:40] There should be a string that says general.useragent.vendorSub [01:40] Along that line there is an area that says 1.0.2 [01:40] Change that to 1.0.4 [01:40] nmorse: 1.0.4 done that.. [01:40] Okay [01:41] And customizegoogle still won't install [01:41] but stilll cannot install the customizegoogle ..... all other are installed and work (addblok, greasymonkey, etc..) [01:41] Hmm [01:43] nmorse: what about you? does your firefox try to install it? [01:43] mine keeps waiting -I-don't-know-what- .... [01:44] It worked just fine for me, but I upgraded my Mozilla Firefox from backports [01:45] The bugfixes that came out in 1.0.4 that weren't security related haven't been backported to Ubuntu's default yet [01:45] nmorse: where did you install it from? [01:45] The backports repository === str is now known as StR [01:47] nmorse: no.. i mean the extension === Klementas [~Klementas@lichte.ctcis.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:48] Got to go: Episode III starts in 15 minutes === martin [~martin@ppp-82-135-14-88.mnet-online.de] has joined #kubuntu === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu [01:55] has anyone had success installing kdissert on kubuntu hoary? === martin is now known as MartinHohenberg === Klementas [~Klementas@lichte.ctcis.net] has left #kubuntu [] === __P__3 [~princoscr@host-84-220-143-138.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu [02:11] <__P__3> hi [02:11] <__P__3> how can i compile nvidia drivers with gcc 4 ? [02:11] <__P__3> it told me that kernel is compiled on 3.4 === moshe [~moshe@ool-18bab1e4.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:13] hellio [02:13] hello [02:13] how long does a typical desktop installation of Kubuntu take? [02:14] __P__3, i did install 3.4 gcc or both even. [02:14] moshe, 30 mins? [02:14] oh [02:14] <__P__3> yes maybe but i can't pass the righ gcc [02:14] that's not a big deal [02:15] <__P__3> i have gcc 3.4 on my system [02:15] <__P__3> but nvidia installer see 4.0 [02:15] is it possible to enable the root account? I'm not sure I understand this whole no root account business. [02:16] moshe: it *is* possible (have done it, for convinience), but do you really want that? [02:16] why wouldn't I? [02:16] I don't understand the advantage of not having a root account. [02:16] whats speciall abou uuntu's root account? [02:17] I'm not criticizing, either. I really do want to understand the logic behind it. [02:17] I'm planning on installing this tonight over Slackware. [02:17] well, ubuntu is targeted at the mom&pop boxes. those guys do better without an extra root account they might tend to use as the standard one - because it is easier to install things (read: screw the system) [02:17] riiiiight === mabu [~mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu [02:17] but what about us non-mom&pop types? [02:18] just start a root terminal. [02:18] I've read only good things about ubuntu/kubuntu, and I'm interested in trying it, but I want to understand what I'm jumping into, first. === sproingie [~chuck@64-121-15-14.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:18] well, i've fired up gnome, started a root shell, passwd root, and all was ok for me [02:18] what prevents someone from getting root access on my system? [02:18] moshe, that is not the focus of ubuntus non-root policy [02:19] i set a root pw [02:19] the focus is simplicity? [02:19] they have to have one set by default... the login shell is not /sbin/nologin [02:20] I don't understand what that means [02:20] I'm not completely wet behind the ears, but I'm not an expert, either. [02:23] moshe, the focus is making users think before using their root power. this is easyer if they have to enter their password any other time than entering it once at login time [02:24] yes [02:24] I see [02:24] i used to use root as my default login... [02:24] if you knew how many windows-newbies I've seen who used root as the standard account, you'd know what I mean. [02:24] then figured that it was bad... [02:24] MartinHohenberg, I know exactly what you mean [02:24] that was in the first month or so of using linux [02:24] kalenedrael: I do not hope you learned the hard way like my customers did. [02:24] er, first couple weeks [02:25] well, there was relatively little that i could lose [02:25] it's not like i had gigs and gigs of critical data [02:25] i also used IRC as root... yeah, those were the noob times [02:26] thanks [02:26] that ended up getting me a virus of some sort === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@h-69-3-234-223.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU [02:26] reinstalled and vowed never to do that again :P [02:27] the problem is, that now, as linux starts to embrace the desktop user, it has to deal with the desktop users unwillingness to do things right. Better take away some direct power before they kill their last months work result and blame the machine for their stupidity ;) [02:27] that makes sense [02:27] Windows fails to do this, and we all know and *love* the results, don't we? [02:27] i was confused by the lack of root access in kubuntu when i installed it [02:28] yeah, we do [02:28] i just adopt a zero tolerance policy for stupid people [02:28] however: you *can* get root access in (k)ubuntu ... but I highly recommend you only do this if you know exactly what you are doing. [02:29] sudo su - [02:29] yes, i did [02:29] sudo passwd [02:29] i did "sudo passwd" [02:29] to get root access [02:29] if you're anything more than a bottom feeding cluebie you should be allowed root [02:29] cartel_: You can do this as long as your paycheck is not dependant on your policy against your newbies. [02:29] MartinHohenberg: my paycheck comes from fixing newbies mistakes [02:30] it's nice to have an accessible root account, but i hardly use it [02:30] i do things like compile the kernel as root [02:30] or drivers [02:30] thats what fakeroot is for [02:30] meh [02:30] you can theoretically do everything with sudo [02:30] i do not see how you need root to *compile* the kernel [02:30] i don't [02:30] i prefer to do it that way [02:32] I've asked that question about an hour ago or something, but the channel was pretty dead back then. Has anyone managed to compile kdissert for kubuntu hoary? === Gfault [Gfault@200.217.138.219] has joined #kubuntu [02:32] no [02:32] hi all [02:33] hi Gfaulr [02:34] i'm from Brazil [02:35] no speak english corretly === __P__3 [~princoscr@host-84-220-143-138.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu === __P__3 is now known as _P_ === _ubuntu [~ubuntu@81.172.64.74] has joined #kubuntu === Elsidox_ [~Elsidox@CPE-69-76-103-192.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #Kubuntu === |`TUX`| [~princoscr@ppp-217-133-31-196.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu === Heart_2 [~jzdgc@p549C3ABE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === KevManU_ [~kevin@p5488AE66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === slicslak [~slicslak@S0106000f66e13f97.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:43] what should i do to mount my ntfs drives rw, kinda safely..? === xe [~xe@bl6-61-49.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #kubuntu [03:45] hi !Does anybody know any portuguese mirror fot kubuntu with the kde 3.4.1? === monchy [monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:47] hi !Does anybody know any portuguese mirror fot kubuntu with the kde 3.4.1? [03:53] hi !Does anybody know any portuguese mirror fot kubuntu with the kde 3.4.1? === xe [~xe@bl6-61-49.dsl.telepac.pt] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === rofiq [~rofiq@rws.maltech.ne.jp] has joined #kubuntu === _douglas [~douglas@dpc6745164251.direcpc.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:07] <_douglas> How do I manually change the x resolution while it's running, kde won't let me go past 640x480 on this old crappy monitor yet I know it goes up to 1024x768? === rofiq [~rofiq@rws.maltech.ne.jp] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === penguinboy [~penguinbo@24-159-145-55.dhcp.smrt.tn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:23] hello guys and gals === penguinboy [~penguinbo@24-159-145-55.dhcp.smrt.tn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:39] hey guys [04:40] a moment ago you said "hello guys and gals" [04:40] i am fickle [04:40] lol [04:41] how r u kalendrael? [04:41] not bad [04:41] good [04:41] how many years have you used Linux? [04:46] a few [04:46] i recall the transition... [04:47] win98 fuxes itself rapidly and unexpectedly after about a year of functioning properly [04:47] to the point where it starts crashing very often (often enough to be utterly unusable) [04:47] then the mouse broke [04:47] and lots of programs broke, for no good reason [04:48] i had just downloaded red hat 8 [04:48] and burned it onto CDs [04:48] i quickly burned all my documents and stuff onto CD (without the help of a mouse, no less) [04:49] then installed linux [04:49] linux was so... new at that time [04:50] yes [04:50] to me, at least [04:50] (the OS itself was not very new) [04:51] i think the fact that windows had been pissing me off and that i did not have windows install disks anywway prevented me from going back [04:51] glad i stuck with linux now... [04:51] are you 100% Linux [04:52] i have dual boot on this and my dad's computer has windows [04:52] ok, of 5 serviceable computers i own, 3 are pure linux, 1 is windows, 1 is dual [04:54] my desk has 2 hdds...80 gig Windows and 80 gig Kubuntu....my lap is 100% Kubuntu [04:55] what other distros are you currently runnign? === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:56] kubuntu on this one (the dual-boot laptop), FC3 on two of the three desktops, and mandrake 10.0 on the other one [04:56] Monchmeisteroney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [04:56] hey penguin [04:56] i hardly use the desktops... two of the three aren't even hooked up [04:57] i neer did like Mandrake....I used FC before Ubuntu [04:57] i hated mandrake [04:57] oof mandrake [04:57] if i ever dig that mandrake box out of the pile of shit it's in right now, i am wiping it and installing kubuntu [04:57] they are absorbing all sorts of distros now [04:58] Mandrake is like Playschool Linux [04:58] i don't understand why it's so high on distrowatch [04:58] nor i [04:59] wonder what i should do with my two PPCs [04:59] both old tower types [04:59]