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| mdke | evening all | 01:58 |
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| Burgundavia | salut | 01:59 |
| Burgundavia | patch just went to the mailing list | 01:59 |
| Burgundavia | not from me | 01:59 |
| mdke | just downloaded it now | 01:59 |
| mdke | will check it out | 02:00 |
| mdke | i think its from Njal | 02:00 |
| Burgundavia | more of my crazy ideas up on planet.ubuntu.com | 02:01 |
| mdke | ok | 02:01 |
| mdke | that patch is strange | 02:02 |
| mdke | he has changed the title of the book ;) | 02:07 |
| mdke | and uses ":p" | 02:08 |
| Burgundavia | more a chatty style | 02:10 |
| Burgundavia | might rub some people wrong | 02:11 |
| squinn | Don't apply the patch in my opinion. | 02:11 |
| Burgundavia | I wouldn't | 02:11 |
| mdke | i won't | 02:11 |
| mdke | but he wanted feedback so I will write to the list | 02:11 |
| mdke | something jeffsch was saying earlier today made me think about style | 02:12 |
| mdke | he posted the gnome guide to writing so that things can be easily translated | 02:12 |
| mdke | it gave lots of good advice | 02:12 |
| rob^ | is the faq guide suppose to align with ubuntuguide.org or are we free to make whatever changes/additions as we see fit? | 02:53 |
| Burgundavia | ubuntuguide.org will eventually pull out of our repo | 02:55 |
| Burgundavia | so change the faq as you see fit | 02:55 |
| mdke | ++ | 02:55 |
| rob^ | ok good thanks | 02:55 |
| mdke | we will need to work on it a LOT if its gonna ship | 02:55 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 02:56 |
| rob^ | yeah.. well it needs to work in yelp atleast | 02:56 |
| mdke | lots of unofficial and dodgy things will have to go | 02:56 |
| rob^ | yes | 02:56 |
| mdke | rob^, no, that's not one of the things ;) | 02:56 |
| rob^ | hah | 02:56 |
| mdke | rob^, we will discuss it at the next meeting, but maybe we'll ship our docs in html, in which case yelp will support it | 02:57 |
| rob^ | yeah | 02:57 |
| rob^ | is it normal, when I use xmlto to check it, for there to be Ubuntukubuntu each time it is written etc | 02:58 |
| mdke | yeah that will be discussed at the meeting too | 02:58 |
| rob^ | ok good | 02:58 |
| mdke | when Sean wrote it, he intended to profile it for ubuntu and kubuntu | 02:58 |
| rob^ | thats what I thought | 02:58 |
| mdke | we will be deciding whether to continue with that | 02:58 |
| rob^ | good good.. | 02:58 |
| mdke | ok i'm for bed | 03:00 |
| mdke | night all | 03:00 |
| rob^ | night | 03:00 |
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| jsgotangco | jeffsch! | 03:58 |
| jsgotangco | oh hes out | 03:58 |
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| jsgotangco | hi | 07:11 |
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| jeffsch | jsgotangco! | 08:31 |
| jsgotangco | jeffsch! | 08:32 |
| jeffsch | you called? | 08:33 |
| jsgotangco | i did but i forgot what i was about to ask | 08:33 |
| jeffsch | that's ok. i forgot what i was about to answer | 08:33 |
| jsgotangco | gyaahhh | 08:33 |
| jsgotangco | oh wait | 08:34 |
| jsgotangco | you're here might as well ask you the best time to set a meeting again | 08:34 |
| jsgotangco | im putting styleguide on top of the agenda | 08:34 |
| jsgotangco | 12UTC might be too much for you | 08:34 |
| jeffsch | 14UTC would be ok | 08:35 |
| jsgotangco | what time is that on your side? | 08:36 |
| jeffsch | i'm at -0700 | 08:36 |
| jeffsch | it would be 7am | 08:36 |
| jsgotangco | where is that in canada? | 08:37 |
| jeffsch | vancouver | 08:38 |
| jeffsch | west coast | 08:38 |
| jsgotangco | say i wanna ask you something | 08:38 |
| jsgotangco | if its ok with you (its not ubuntu related) | 08:38 |
| jeffsch | i wanna answer | 08:38 |
| jsgotangco | i'll pm | 08:39 |
| jeffsch | ok | 08:39 |
| jsgotangco | hey jeffsch, i just tagged Kubuntu Quick Guide "for review" | 08:47 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 08:47 |
| jsgotangco | its like 95% done | 08:47 |
| jsgotangco | (just need to export an html preview of it) | 08:48 |
| jeffsch | cool | 08:48 |
| jeffsch | we should put previews on the meeting agenda | 08:49 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 08:49 |
| jsgotangco | and clean up the status ids of docs | 08:49 |
| jeffsch | yeah. there's a lot of administrative stuff that needs doing | 08:50 |
| jeffsch | bureaucracy | 08:50 |
| jsgotangco | haha | 08:50 |
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| froud | African Greetings | 08:56 |
| Burgundavia | salut | 08:57 |
| jsgotangco | salut | 08:57 |
| jsgotangco | froud, i just tagged kubuntu quickguide as for review | 08:59 |
| jsgotangco | (not sure if there is still anything to add on that book at the moment) | 08:59 |
| froud | jsgotangco: I saw a few sections that need text | 09:00 |
| jsgotangco | hmmm i missed some more? | 09:00 |
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| froud | dunno you mean you wrote it already, last night | 09:01 |
| jsgotangco | i did | 09:01 |
| jsgotangco | its just two lines and two screenshots | 09:01 |
| froud | ah cook be I have not goten to that, last night I just saw th emissing bits. perhaps you already fixed it while I was asleep | 09:02 |
| jsgotangco | yeah i committed them earlier today | 09:02 |
| jsgotangco | oohhh esvn looks awesome in Ion | 09:02 |
| froud | lon? | 09:03 |
| jsgotangco | its a wm similar to ratpoison | 09:03 |
| froud | Ah, cool | 09:04 |
| froud | yeah, 0.7.0 is gonna be a really cool release | 09:04 |
| froud | did anyone test those make targets | 09:05 |
| froud | cant figure out why the pictures dont work | 09:05 |
| jsgotangco | i did | 09:05 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 09:05 |
| froud | all the paths are correct but when I transform the path passed to the html is changed | 09:06 |
| froud | cant figure out why this changes | 09:06 |
| froud | guess I will have to ask on docbook-apps today | 09:06 |
| froud | kak, Hmmm, ppl have vivid imaginations :-) | 09:07 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 09:07 |
| jsgotangco | i thought of this crazy idea, but i nevermind | 09:09 |
| froud | ok you got me interested, what is it? | 09:09 |
| jsgotangco | i was thinking of the qanda sets | 09:10 |
| jsgotangco | but i remembered its silly to ship both formats | 09:10 |
| jsgotangco | (but then who shipped about ubuntu in html in the 1st place) | 09:11 |
| froud | hmmm no idea what you're talking about | 09:11 |
| jsgotangco | heh like i said nvm | 09:12 |
| jsgotangco | :D | 09:12 |
| froud | about ubuntu had to open in FF from System menu | 09:12 |
| froud | ok | 09:12 |
| jsgotangco | do you have a crazy idea today | 09:16 |
| mdke | morning campers | 09:17 |
| froud | crazy day, no | 09:17 |
| jsgotangco | mdke, hi | 09:17 |
| froud | morn mdke | 09:17 |
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| froud | jsgotangco: dont feel like working today, perhaps go do shopping, catch a movie, go for long lunch somewhere | 09:18 |
| mdke | nice | 09:18 |
| froud | mdke: did you, by chance, test the new make targets for kde | 09:19 |
| mdke | haven't done yet | 09:19 |
| froud | ok | 09:19 |
| mdke | can do if you like | 09:20 |
| mdke | is there a make all for everything? | 09:20 |
| jsgotangco | i wish i can do that today | 09:20 |
| mdke | problem is, I guess I'm gonna have to manually edit paths again in some stuff | 09:20 |
| froud | would be nice, they work here, except of images, but will they work on another box. should? | 09:20 |
| jsgotangco | (shopping, movie, long lunch) | 09:20 |
| froud | jsgotangco: yep good to enjoy life | 09:21 |
| mdke | froud, i am going to oxford today, so probably won't have time to do the editing of the docbook paths | 09:21 |
| mdke | need to get on the road ASAP | 09:21 |
| froud | hmm ok, if you see hendrik pls ask him about the docteam.u.c | 09:21 |
| mdke | lol | 09:21 |
| mdke | no plans to see him | 09:21 |
| mdke | if I bump into him I will ;) | 09:22 |
| froud | jeffsch: ping | 09:22 |
| froud | jeffsch: see you made styleguide output build to build/ Thanks dude | 09:23 |
| mdke | go jeffsch! | 09:23 |
| jeffsch | go where? :) | 09:24 |
| froud | jeffsch: I have a bug on the make targets | 09:24 |
| jeffsch | ok | 09:25 |
| froud | jeffsch: if you have time take a look and see | 09:25 |
| jeffsch | the images thing? | 09:25 |
| froud | I cant figure it out | 09:25 |
| froud | yeah | 09:25 |
| froud | the path is being out to images/ instead of ../../images | 09:25 |
| jeffsch | now that you mention it, i had the same problem about a month ago | 09:25 |
| froud | and | 09:25 |
| froud | is it a stylesheet bug | 09:26 |
| jeffsch | i can't remember the details | 09:26 |
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| jeffsch | but i didn't solve it :( | 09:26 |
| froud | hmm | 09:26 |
| jeffsch | at the time, i though it was due to my lack of knowledge | 09:26 |
| froud | well take a look see | 09:26 |
| froud | if you have ideas let me know | 09:27 |
| jeffsch | yeah i will... tomorrow though | 09:27 |
| jeffsch | or actually, later on today :) it'sjust after midnight... | 09:27 |
| froud | cool | 09:28 |
| froud | jeffsch: note that the xsl custom later for kde is in kde/libs | 09:28 |
| jeffsch | ok | 09:29 |
| froud | strange thing because the nav and admin graphics do show | 09:29 |
| froud | jsgotangco: I marked several sections in kwick guide complete | 09:30 |
| froud | you want them at awaiting review? | 09:30 |
| jsgotangco | well if it passes on your standard, i guess the other sections are complete then | 09:31 |
| froud | leave them review for now | 09:31 |
| jsgotangco | yeah we could release the doc for hoary if its complete then do a rework on some stuff to breezy-fy it | 09:32 |
| froud | yes you're right | 09:32 |
| jsgotangco | (the last kubuntu kde update had new entries) | 09:32 |
| froud | what 3.4.1 | 09:33 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 09:34 |
| jsgotangco | it even moved some stuff | 09:34 |
| jeffsch | ok i sleep now. c ya | 09:38 |
| mdke | night jeffsch | 09:39 |
| mdke | jdub, can you push through that docteam meeting summary email on ubuntu-news? | 09:44 |
| jsgotangco | oh right | 09:45 |
| jsgotangco | jdub, also, about that email on the upstream doc /packaging... | 09:46 |
| mdke | nice point jsgotangco, jdub owes us an email! | 09:47 |
| mdke | ok i'm off | 09:49 |
| mdke | back sunday prob | 09:49 |
| mdke | have fun! | 09:49 |
| jsgotangco | byeee... | 09:49 |
| jsgotangco | ION ROCKS | 10:00 |
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| froud | jeffsch: ping | 10:28 |
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| froud | strange thing | 10:30 |
| jsgotangco | eh? | 10:30 |
| froud | when I run the make targets on my suse box the images work | 10:30 |
| froud | when I do it on ubuntu, they don't | 10:31 |
| jsgotangco | that is strange | 10:31 |
| jsgotangco | i will try in my wc | 10:31 |
| froud | jsgotangco: what is your version onumber of docbook xsl | 10:31 |
| jsgotangco | let me check | 10:32 |
| froud | my suse boxes is running 1.65.1 | 10:32 |
| jsgotangco | im running 1.66.1.-1 | 10:32 |
| froud | Hmm that's the one installed with hoary | 10:32 |
| froud | Bug? | 10:33 |
| froud | in stylesheets | 10:33 |
| froud | or the xsl's in hoary are borked | 10:33 |
| jsgotangco | hmm it just makes a list of images in a text file | 10:36 |
| jsgotangco | hmm i also noticed the xref link to the xml was passed on to the html | 10:39 |
| froud | images file in not important | 10:39 |
| froud | what path do you get in the html | 10:40 |
| jsgotangco | for the images? | 10:40 |
| froud | yes | 10:40 |
| jsgotangco | give me a sec | 10:41 |
| jsgotangco | <img src="images/C/kubuntu-remoteplaces.png" alt="Remote Places"> | 10:41 |
| froud | yes same here, but that is wrong | 10:41 |
| froud | it should be <img src="../../images/C/kubuntu-remoteplaces.png" alt="Remote Places"> | 10:42 |
| jsgotangco | hmm the images are exported | 10:42 |
| froud | as per the xml xref source | 10:42 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 10:42 |
| jsgotangco | ../../ | 10:42 |
| froud | yes, I copy the images | 10:42 |
| froud | nah this is a bug in 1.66.1-1 | 10:42 |
| jsgotangco | oh adi sent an email | 10:44 |
| jsgotangco | to the list | 10:44 |
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| jsgotangco | froud, new make file? | 11:31 |
| froud | huh? | 11:31 |
| froud | see trunk/kde | 11:31 |
| froud | jsgotangco: btw do you have computer dictionary installed | 11:32 |
| froud | http://computerdictionary.tsf.org.za/dictionary/packages/computerdictionary_1.0-1_all.deb | 11:33 |
| froud | jsgotangco: ? | 11:34 |
| froud | would be nice if you could test it on the installation guide | 11:35 |
| froud | if you can install it and then run make kin from kde/ | 11:35 |
| froud | in the output you should have a glossary section automatically populated | 11:36 |
| froud | jsgotangco: ping | 11:38 |
| froud | can you test it | 11:38 |
| jsgotangco | wait | 11:55 |
| jsgotangco | sorry | 11:55 |
| jsgotangco | hold on | 11:55 |
| jsgotangco | i was teaching someone to use mediawiki | 11:55 |
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| jsgotangco | what mediawiki? | 11:55 |
| froud | no you said hold on | 11:56 |
| froud | so I am doing just that | 11:56 |
| froud | teasing | 11:56 |
| jsgotangco | ok downloading | 11:56 |
| jsgotangco | where does this deb file install? | 11:56 |
| froud | here /usr/share/computerdictionary/ | 11:57 |
| jsgotangco | ok give me a minute, our dsl here is crappy | 11:58 |
| froud | np | 11:58 |
| froud | while it downloads take a look at generic/instalguide/C/installation-guide.xml | 11:58 |
| froud | Look at end of xml file for | 11:59 |
| jsgotangco | ok let me svn up first | 11:59 |
| froud | <glossary role="auto"> | 11:59 |
| froud | <glossentry> | 11:59 |
| froud | <glossterm>Dummy</glossterm> | 11:59 |
| froud | <glossdef> | 11:59 |
| froud | <para>Now you see me, next you won't.</para> | 11:59 |
| froud | </glossdef> | 11:59 |
| froud | </glossentry> | 11:59 |
| froud | </glossary> | 11:59 |
| jsgotangco | me copies that in kquickguide | 12:00 |
| froud | ok, but see installation-guide.xml for examples of how to markup glossterms | 12:01 |
| froud | broadcasts to the network for a <glossterm | 12:01 |
| froud | linkend="D-d0e6764">DHCP</glossterm> server and waits for a response. | 12:01 |
| froud | without glossterms you have no entries in the glossary | 12:02 |
| jsgotangco | ok what do i do next make kqg? | 12:02 |
| === jsgotangco do make kqg | ||
| === jsgotangco tweedle dee tweedle dum | ||
| froud | um me thinks you should try kin | 12:04 |
| jsgotangco | hmm all? | 12:04 |
| froud | I did not see glossterms in kqg | 12:04 |
| jsgotangco | i put a dummy just now | 12:04 |
| froud | yes but you must have glossterms in the doc | 12:05 |
| froud | otherwise ithas nothing to add | 12:05 |
| jsgotangco | how would i know if a keyword is in the dictionary | 12:05 |
| froud | you check the dictionary src | 12:05 |
| jsgotangco | ahh | 12:06 |
| jsgotangco | ok i'll make kin now | 12:06 |
| froud | oneday I will write a naviagtion tool for the dictionary | 12:06 |
| froud | but for now its a case of searching the hardway | 12:07 |
| froud | :-) | 12:07 |
| jsgotangco | this is an example of a vendor drop right? | 12:07 |
| froud | not quite, its a build dependancy | 12:07 |
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| jsgotangco | OMG that is awesome | 12:10 |
| froud | so it works for you. good stuff | 12:10 |
| jsgotangco | hmm | 12:11 |
| jsgotangco | wait a minute | 12:11 |
| jsgotangco | i see the glossary | 12:11 |
| jsgotangco | but where are the links to these keywords? | 12:11 |
| froud | how do you mean? | 12:12 |
| jsgotangco | ok Glossary has "DHCP" | 12:12 |
| jsgotangco | i was hoping any word that said "DHCP" in the book has a link to the glossary | 12:12 |
| froud | Umm there should be a link on one | 12:13 |
| jsgotangco | # | 12:14 |
| jsgotangco | Your network does not use a DHCP server. | 12:14 |
| jsgotangco | # | 12:14 |
| jsgotangco | no link on the DHCP word | 12:14 |
| froud | hold lemme see | 12:14 |
| jsgotangco | chapter 7 | 12:14 |
| froud | Ah ha, yes, I will fix that | 12:23 |
| jsgotangco | what was wrong? | 12:23 |
| froud | hold must fix and see | 12:23 |
| jsgotangco | glossterms are awesome if we ship in html | 12:24 |
| froud | very helpful saves you having to explain things like DHCP, DNS etc | 12:24 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 12:24 |
| froud | hmmm | 12:29 |
| jsgotangco | ? | 12:29 |
| froud | the parameter settings are correct, so why is it not linking | 12:29 |
| froud | hmmm | 12:30 |
| jsgotangco | does it work in your suse? | 12:30 |
| froud | no | 12:30 |
| froud | not the links | 12:30 |
| jsgotangco | so the word "DHCP" should link to the glossterm at the end right | 12:31 |
| froud | yes, it can do that on the first occurance or all | 12:31 |
| froud | I have set it to do so on first occurance only | 12:31 |
| jsgotangco | hmm | 12:31 |
| jsgotangco | question though | 12:32 |
| jsgotangco | does yelp recognize glossterms? | 12:32 |
| froud | no | 12:32 |
| jsgotangco | (on xml that is) | 12:32 |
| jsgotangco | ahh | 12:32 |
| jsgotangco | i guessed right then | 12:32 |
| froud | :-) | 12:32 |
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| jsgotangco | its funny though, the system images appear but not the screenshots | 12:33 |
| jsgotangco | froud, | 12:34 |
| froud | yes | 12:34 |
| jsgotangco | <glossterm linkend="D-d0e6764"> | 12:34 |
| jsgotangco | D-dnnnnn is from the D.xml right | 12:34 |
| froud | yeah | 12:34 |
| jsgotangco | ok i will study it then | 12:35 |
| jsgotangco | so when you do make kin | 12:35 |
| jsgotangco | the xsl looks into /usr/share/computerdictonary? | 12:36 |
| jsgotangco | and lifts appropriate entries at the bottom | 12:36 |
| froud | yes | 12:37 |
| froud | so glossary terms can be managed in a single place | 12:37 |
| froud | and glossary sections can be auto generated | 12:38 |
| jsgotangco | but that would also mean that everyone of us need to have the same glossary | 12:38 |
| jsgotangco | to be able to use it | 12:38 |
| froud | yes, I used computerdictionary as a build dependancy | 12:38 |
| jsgotangco | ahh right | 12:38 |
| jsgotangco | oh well this is interesting.. | 12:38 |
| froud | it will not crash if not found | 12:38 |
| jsgotangco | if its not found, then there is no glossary entry in the html right? | 12:39 |
| froud | Hmmm it is linking my side | 12:39 |
| froud | right | 12:39 |
| jsgotangco | ahh | 12:39 |
| jsgotangco | oh well too bad i gotta run for dinner | 12:39 |
| froud | but the section glossary is built | 12:39 |
| jsgotangco | will try to come back later | 12:39 |
| froud | ok | 12:39 |
| jsgotangco | right | 12:39 |
| jsgotangco | section glossary but no entries | 12:39 |
| froud | ye | 12:40 |
| jsgotangco | great | 12:40 |
| jsgotangco | see ya | 12:40 |
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| Njal | lo | 01:51 |
| _froud_ | hi | 01:51 |
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| Njal | hows everyone | 01:52 |
| froud | I am OK, dunno about the others | 01:52 |
| Njal | oh well | 01:52 |
| froud | and you? | 01:53 |
| Njal | Gota damn cold it's height of the summer and i have a cold | 01:53 |
| froud | he he, winter here and I just got over the flue | 01:54 |
| Njal | Where you live? | 01:54 |
| froud | co.za | 01:54 |
| froud | Johannesburg, South Africa | 01:55 |
| Njal | Ah, York, England | 01:55 |
| Njal | Who are the mods for the list? | 01:57 |
| froud | no mods | 01:57 |
| Njal | who looks and the material then? | 01:58 |
| Njal | at | 01:58 |
| froud | which material? | 01:59 |
| froud | you mean mailing list? | 02:00 |
| Njal | yes | 02:00 |
| froud | Mmmm there are some people who are mailing list mods, but who I dont know. I dont get much into that stuff | 02:01 |
| froud | why, is there a problem? | 02:01 |
| Njal | I just submitted something and i was told via automated email a mod had to approve it | 02:03 |
| froud | Ah yeah an attached file | 02:04 |
| froud | sometimes they get stuck | 02:04 |
| Njal | Yes, i was just wondering what the status was, since everytime i svt up the file isn't updated | 02:04 |
| froud | send a message to the list without attachment and ask them to release it | 02:04 |
| Njal | Ask them to add the file to the repo? | 02:05 |
| froud | Uhm I think mdke had some comments if you have fixed them they resubmit | 02:05 |
| froud | did you read matthews comments? | 02:05 |
| Njal | I don't understand what you mean by if you have fixed them they resubmit | 02:07 |
| froud | was it you who submitted a patch yesterday? | 02:07 |
| froud | userguide.xml(revision 1216) | 02:08 |
| Njal | that's the one | 02:08 |
| froud | OK, Matthew reviewed it and gave comments. | 02:08 |
| Njal | I havn't seen them | 02:08 |
| Njal | Where can i access these comments | 02:08 |
| froud | sec | 02:08 |
| froud | http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.doc/ | 02:09 |
| Njal | ok | 02:10 |
| Njal | thank you | 02:10 |
| froud | np | 02:10 |
| Njal | Hmm i better change my typing style :p | 02:12 |
| froud | writing style, yes | 02:12 |
| Njal | Im one of these people that try to make it as light as possible, i blame the ...for dummies series of book i always read if i need to learn something new | 02:13 |
| froud | he he | 02:14 |
| froud | try a neutral posture when writing | 02:14 |
| Njal | I will | 02:14 |
| Njal | It's learning the teretory really | 02:14 |
| froud | yeah, not a big issue, dont be offended by it | 02:15 |
| Njal | Im not | 02:15 |
| Njal | Don't worry | 02:15 |
| froud | good | 02:15 |
| Njal | There's more to be done in this user guide than i first though | 02:25 |
| froud | yes, lots to do | 02:26 |
| Njal | I thought it was almost finished, cool i can get more done | 02:26 |
| froud | nice because you can pick and choose your stuff | 02:26 |
| Njal | yup | 02:26 |
| froud | no no lots of rooms for things to do, enjoy ;-) | 02:26 |
| Njal | Are we going for the whole images in the guide or is it all text? | 02:27 |
| froud | you can use images | 02:27 |
| froud | but b4 capturing | 02:27 |
| froud | check file:/home/sean/projects/ubuntu/trunk/gnome/images/C | 02:28 |
| froud | opps | 02:28 |
| froud | trunk/gnome/images/C | 02:28 |
| Njal | i don't have a trunk dir | 02:28 |
| Njal | odd | 02:28 |
| Njal | nvm found the images anyway | 02:29 |
| froud | if the image is not already there, then create capture as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TakingScreenshots?highlight=%28ScreenShots%29 | 02:29 |
| froud | yes you may not have a trunk because you have not done a full checkout of the repos, just the trunk | 02:29 |
| froud | if the image is there, then reuse it | 02:30 |
| Njal | just to confirm we can't use figures of speach such as "There's more than one way to skin a cat", i can imagine how that might turn out translated | 02:30 |
| froud | correct, don't use them | 02:31 |
| Njal | ok | 02:31 |
| Njal | another question, what CD buring software come's installed by default | 02:31 |
| Njal | i know there's the one built into nautilus | 02:31 |
| froud | that's it | 02:32 |
| Njal | oh right | 02:32 |
| froud | well stock apps that is | 02:32 |
| Njal | We're using a stock OS for this though arn't we? | 02:32 |
| froud | yes and apply human theme | 02:33 |
| Njal | Yes i have just read that, but my system is dying i think i'll wait on the screen shot's until i can repair my system | 02:33 |
| froud | OK, remember you can always use a qemu and the ISO | 02:34 |
| Njal | huh | 02:34 |
| Njal | ??? | 02:34 |
| froud | you can run linux under linux using an emulator and make captures from tha :-) | 02:35 |
| Njal | Ah emulation, im not sure that my PC's good enough for that, it choked on the VMware demo | 02:36 |
| Njal | What's the default mail client? | 02:41 |
| Njal | Evolution? | 02:41 |
| froud | yp | 02:41 |
| Njal | hmm never got that to work | 02:42 |
| Njal | will have to skip that section and let someone who can use it, write it | 02:42 |
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| froud | jjesse_: hi | 02:55 |
| jjesse_ | hiya froud | 02:55 |
| jjesse_ | running in windows mode today can't figure out why it won't let me connect at jjesse | 02:56 |
| jjesse_ | and keeps adding the _ to it :( | 02:56 |
| froud | change your nick /nick jjesse | 02:56 |
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| jjesse | now need to figure out why it isn't letting me connect | 02:56 |
| froud | now do /msg nickserv identify {$your-password} | 02:57 |
| jjesse | already did it | 02:57 |
| froud | now do /msg nickserv identify {$your-password} | 02:57 |
| froud | ooops | 02:57 |
| jjesse | grin | 02:57 |
| froud | so have you looked at the outline for kug? | 02:58 |
| jjesse | very little, spent some time looking at it while i watched the piston loose last night | 02:58 |
| froud | that sounds bad :-) | 02:59 |
| jjesse | nba finals last game was last night | 02:59 |
| jjesse | and i'm from michigan so detroit is my team | 02:59 |
| froud | ok, no wonder | 02:59 |
| froud | well do take a look and see what you think. Add as you feel required | 03:00 |
| jjesse | will do its on the schedule for this weekend | 03:00 |
| froud | cool | 03:00 |
| froud | havenot seen gtaylor around | 03:00 |
| froud | jjesse: btw you now make make targets for the kde stuff | 03:01 |
| froud | try them and send feedback | 03:01 |
| jjesse | ok cool | 03:02 |
| Njal | Um on the external drive bit does this include USB 'dongles' | 03:24 |
| froud | how do you mean? | 03:24 |
| Njal | There is a section that is called external drives as in hard drives does this include thet popular USB pen/dongle/mini/portable hard drives? | 03:25 |
| froud | guess it should | 03:26 |
| Njal | Since all i know about is the 'dongle' drives | 03:26 |
| froud | that's ok, do what you know | 03:27 |
| froud | or do research about the ones you dont know so you can do the section | 03:28 |
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| Njal | kk | 03:35 |
| froud | gtaylor: good to see you | 03:35 |
| froud | gtaylor: outline is in svn | 03:37 |
| gtaylor | froud: Good deal, how's it looking? | 03:47 |
| froud | not bad, good enough for me to think it's time for input from you and jjesse | 03:48 |
| gtaylor | great, I'll start playing with it today | 03:49 |
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| froud | argh network splits | 03:52 |
| froud | gtaylor: did you respond to me. if so. I missed it | 03:53 |
| gtaylor | froud: Yeah, I'm going to take a look at pitch some stuff in today | 03:53 |
| froud | cool look forward to it | 03:53 |
| froud | I have mainly done parts and chapters if these structures are OK, then I think we can start building the section outline in each of the chapters | 03:54 |
| gtaylor | ok | 03:54 |
| gtaylor | looks like a good start | 03:56 |
| gtaylor | hrm, need a section on package management | 03:58 |
| froud | under the part on expanding ? | 03:59 |
| gtaylor | Well, I see you have one under Expanding Kubuntu but that might be a chapter on its own | 03:59 |
| froud | he he | 03:59 |
| gtaylor | There are a bunch of different ways to do package management, is the user guide supposed to go over GUI and Console ways of doing things? | 04:00 |
| froud | Umm mostly using Kynaptic | 04:00 |
| gtaylor | ok | 04:00 |
| gtaylor | I wrote a bunch of Kynaptic stuff for the quickguide we can use | 04:00 |
| froud | but some cli will be needed in order to add repositories to sources.list | 04:00 |
| jjesse | shouldn't it cover at least some of the console settings? if i remember correctly the upgrade from wart to hoary was mostly console driven apt-get update and stuff | 04:00 |
| froud | once you have repos's defined in sources.list the rest can be done va kynaptic | 04:01 |
| froud | smart upgrade | 04:01 |
| froud | everything up to Expanding is the stock installation | 04:03 |
| gtaylor | I didn't know there was such a thing as apt-get moo :) | 04:07 |
| gtaylor | was wondering what that super cow powers stuff was | 04:07 |
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| jjesse | hello enrico? | 04:40 |
| enrico | jjesse: hi from LinuxTag! | 04:41 |
| jjesse | having fun? | 04:41 |
| enrico | lots! :) | 04:41 |
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| froud | night, night | 09:51 |
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