ogra | sebest, debian is a very wide field, which one are you talking about (sarge,sid, woody )? | 12:01 |
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sebest | all of them | 12:01 |
sebest | except maybe experimental | 12:02 |
ogra | so its a lag of debian then... | 12:02 |
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sebest | but as i don't use debian, should i use the ubuntuX in the name? | 12:02 |
tseng | 0ubuntu1 | 12:03 |
tseng | if there is no debian version | 12:03 |
sebest | tseng oki | 12:03 |
tseng | the first part is the debian revision | 12:03 |
tseng | so 3.2.1-1ubuntu1 if its in debian as 3.2.1-1 and you make changes | 12:04 |
tseng | say debian has 3.2.0 | 12:04 |
tseng | and you update it to .1 | 12:04 |
tseng | its not 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 | 12:04 |
tseng | make ense? | 12:04 |
tseng | sense | 12:04 |
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sebest | yes i does, but i was using 0.6.4-0ethium1, should i name it 0.6.4-1ubuntu1 ? | 12:05 |
tseng | no | 12:05 |
sebest | for upgrading to works? | 12:05 |
tseng | we only respect versioning from debian | 12:05 |
tseng | not random 3rd parties | 12:05 |
sebest | oki, but what should i do for smooth upgrade? | 12:06 |
Amaranth | if it's not in debian yet it's -0 right? | 12:06 |
ogra | the first debian version will be 0.6.4-1, so it will supersede your pakage in ubuntu if you name it 0ubuntu1 | 12:06 |
looksaus | tseng, is there a motu who's interested in music notation? | 12:06 |
looksaus | it would be great to have lilypond packages | 12:07 |
tseng | looksaus: not that I know of | 12:07 |
ajmitch | interested, but haven't done much with it | 12:07 |
looksaus | (I mean Lilypond 2.6 packages) | 12:07 |
tseng | looksaus: you are welcome to get involved | 12:07 |
ajmitch | you'd want to work with the debian maintainer for that | 12:07 |
looksaus | ajmitch, of course, if I were willing to invest a lot of time in packaging skill building | 12:08 |
ajmitch | great, it's thomas bushnell | 12:08 |
sebest | ogra , but what will happen when i apt-get upgrade? if the installed one is 0.6.4-0ethium1 ? | 12:08 |
ogra | looksaus, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUAudio | 12:08 |
sebest | and i name the new 0.6.4-0ubuntu1 ? | 12:08 |
looksaus | is he an ubuntu guy? | 12:09 |
ajmitch | 0ubuntu1 is higher | 12:09 |
sebest | ajmitch: oki thanx | 12:09 |
ajmitch | looksaus: no, a hurd guy :) | 12:09 |
looksaus | I thought so, but he could have been on both, right ;) | 12:10 |
ajmitch | sure | 12:10 |
looksaus | ogra, is it acceptable for me to put something in there? | 12:10 |
ajmitch | looksaus: sure it is | 12:11 |
ogra | looksaus, you probably should contact the guys... they dont have a MOTU to lead yet... | 12:11 |
ajmitch | get in touch with them first | 12:12 |
ogra | so this team isnt right yet.... a MOTU team needs a MOTU | 12:12 |
ogra | else you have no uploader | 12:12 |
looksaus | err... sorry... you mean I should contact the audio guys first? | 12:12 |
looksaus | the have them contact you? | 12:12 |
looksaus | then have them contact you? | 12:13 |
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ogra | looksaus, no, have them find a MOTU so their team can actually work | 12:16 |
ogra | looksaus, a MOTU team without a MOTU is pretty useless... you cant upload changes.... | 12:17 |
looksaus | ogra, I was supposing that you were the MOTU people... | 12:17 |
ogra | looksaus, yes, but i'm not in the audio team | 12:17 |
looksaus | ok | 12:17 |
tseng | i need to leave my computer before i get angry | 12:18 |
sebest | ogra, what is the next step when i have implemented the changes asked by daniel? | 12:18 |
ogra | looksaus, since these guys seem to have interest in audio stuff, the should either become MOTU or find one who is interested in that... | 12:18 |
ogra | tseng, calm down... | 12:18 |
tseng | im leaving :) | 12:18 |
ajmitch | bye tseng :) | 12:18 |
ogra | tseng, i'm discussing since 1h with him | 12:18 |
ogra | tseng, ciao, relax | 12:18 |
tseng | ogra: you are a champion | 12:19 |
tseng | see you in 20 or so | 12:19 |
ajmitch | irssi is really screwy today - cutting off first character of each line after the nick :) | 12:19 |
sebest | what happened with tseng?? | 12:20 |
ogra | sebest, annoying discussion on -devel... | 12:20 |
\sh | uh again a long text | 12:22 |
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Amaranth | ajmitch: that sucks | 12:27 |
Amaranth | bass | 12:27 |
Amaranth | hehe | 12:27 |
ajmitch | 0:27 < Amaranth> jmitch: that sucks | 12:29 |
ajmitch | 10:27 < maranth> ass | 12:29 |
ajmitch | yeah, it does :) | 12:29 |
Amaranth | i did that on purpose :D | 12:29 |
ajmitch | but I'm using putty on windows to connect to screen at home.. | 12:30 |
ajmitch | which worked fine yesterday | 12:30 |
ajmitch | ok, ssh+cygwin works | 12:36 |
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ogra | ajmitch, even without ssh-krb5 ? *g* | 12:42 |
ajmitch | ogra: be nice :) | 12:43 |
ogra | heh, i am.... | 12:43 |
ogra | i'm still bound to the CoC :) | 12:43 |
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sebest | bye all, and thanx for the advices! | 12:49 |
ajmitch | bye sebest | 12:52 |
\sh | going to bed ... | 12:56 |
doko | /msg ogra wer hat Dir den Schwanz festgebunden? ;-) | 12:57 |
tseng | hi | 01:22 |
ajmitch | wb tseng | 01:22 |
tseng | thanks | 01:23 |
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Nafallo | yay! | 03:00 |
Nafallo | my passwords are changed :-P | 03:00 |
Nafallo | _all_ of them :-) | 03:00 |
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Nafallo | I'm going to bed. see you all later. | 03:01 |
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bddebian | Bah, where is everyone? | 03:26 |
ajmitch | I was at lunch :P | 03:28 |
bddebian | Heya homey | 03:29 |
ajmitch | making friends in #d-d again, I see? | 03:30 |
bddebian | hehe | 03:30 |
bddebian | Well I AM installing Breezy at the moment.. | 03:30 |
ajmitch | great | 03:31 |
ajmitch | dist-upgrade from hoary? | 03:31 |
bddebian | Ayte | 03:31 |
bddebian | Uhm, aye even | 03:31 |
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tseng | i need to wipe this clean | 03:31 |
tseng | loaded with crap | 03:31 |
bddebian | colony 2? | 03:32 |
tseng | colony 2. | 03:32 |
tseng | a group of badgers are a colony | 03:32 |
bddebian | Ah | 03:33 |
tseng | milestone builds are called colony | 03:33 |
tseng | 1, 2, etc | 03:33 |
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ajmitch | yep | 03:33 |
bddebian | Shix, I keep getting md5 errors on oppenoffice.org2 | 03:34 |
tseng | us mirror? | 03:35 |
ajmitch | I think I need to learn tla-buildpackage | 03:36 |
tseng | <3 svn-buildpackage | 03:37 |
ajmitch | baz is the way of the future | 03:37 |
tseng | seen The Aviator? | 03:37 |
ajmitch | yep | 03:37 |
ajmitch | wait, I don't think I did | 03:38 |
tseng | its about howard hughes | 03:38 |
ajmitch | right | 03:38 |
tseng | his torrets/panic attacks were he said "the way of the future" like 50 times | 03:38 |
squinn | it's the way of the future..way of the future..way of the futuer | 03:38 |
tseng | until they sedated him | 03:38 |
tseng | ya | 03:38 |
squinn | yeah, that was the syphillis coming to him | 03:39 |
squinn | syphilis + ocd = deadly combo | 03:39 |
bddebian | tseng: Yes | 03:39 |
tseng | bddebian: that mirror is permafucked | 03:39 |
tseng | use another for now | 03:40 |
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bddebian | Nice.. :-( | 03:40 |
squinn | any work I need I can debootstrap | 03:40 |
ajmitch | squinn: do you find breezy a little broken? | 03:40 |
bddebian | Anu suggestions on a mirror? | 03:40 |
bddebian | s/Anu/Any | 03:40 |
squinn | ajmitch, a little. i'm used to unstable systems but when i can't add an email account..that crosses the lien | 03:41 |
bddebian | Anyone... Anyone... Beuhler | 03:42 |
bddebian | ajmitch: Is the an .au mirror? | 03:46 |
tseng | good night | 03:46 |
ajmitch | bddebian: dunno | 03:46 |
ajmitch | night tseng | 03:47 |
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bddebian | gnight tseng | 03:47 |
bddebian | Is there a list of mirrors somewhere? | 03:48 |
ajmitch | probably :) | 03:48 |
bddebian | sheesh | 03:49 |
bddebian | No one knows another mirror?? The Ubuntu sites and Google aren't helping much.. :-( | 04:02 |
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ajmitch | bddebian: try uk.archive.ubuntu.com then | 04:06 |
ajmitch | or just archive.ubuntu.com | 04:06 |
ajmitch | (same ip addresses) | 04:06 |
bddebian | thx | 04:07 |
ajmitch | hmm | 04:07 |
ajmitch | that may not work, us.a.u.c points to the same place | 04:07 |
bddebian | bah :-) | 04:07 |
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bddebian | Ahh, now nautilus dies | 04:17 |
ajmitch | excellent | 04:19 |
ajmitch | how is it dying? | 04:19 |
bddebian | dpkg returned error 1 blah blah | 04:19 |
bddebian | I'm doing a -f install now | 04:19 |
squinn | hey, um..question for you | 04:20 |
ajmitch | squinn: yes? | 04:20 |
squinn | wait maybe nvm | 04:21 |
squinn | yeah, nvm | 04:21 |
bddebian | Hmm, seemed to have worked. | 04:21 |
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squinn | Okay. | 04:23 |
squinn | What do I do if my dpkg is damaged beyond belief | 04:24 |
squinn | I kind of screwed it up. | 04:24 |
ajmitch | how badly? | 04:24 |
squinn | dpkg: configuration error: unknown option log: Success | 04:24 |
squinn | dpkg: configuration error: unknown option log: Success | 04:24 |
squinn | I can't get anything to install badly | 04:24 |
bddebian | Cool, now X won't start and I can't use my keyboard. Sweet | 04:24 |
ajmitch | squinn: ah, so configuration stuff, not 'dpkg has a totally broken status db' | 04:25 |
squinn | yep | 04:25 |
ajmitch | bddebian: breezy Works For Me(tm) :) | 04:25 |
bddebian | heh | 04:26 |
squinn | well the file i messed up i got from someone on main support chan | 04:26 |
ajmitch | squinn: look in /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg | 04:26 |
squinn | ok | 04:26 |
ajmitch | did you change that file? | 04:26 |
squinn | no | 04:26 |
ajmitch | what does that file have, and what version of dpkg do you have installed (latest from breezy?) | 04:26 |
squinn | commented stuff | 04:27 |
squinn | and | 04:27 |
squinn | where log goes | 04:27 |
squinn | and file i edited was /var/lib/dpkg/info/dpkg.prerm | 04:27 |
ajmitch | comment out the log option | 04:27 |
ajmitch | it was something recently edited, and if you haven't got a matching dpkg, it might complain like it is | 04:27 |
squinn | as i wanted to dpkg to downgrade and it seemed to have some problems with /usr/bin/md5sum | 04:28 |
ajmitch | yeah, downgrading dpkg isn't going to be fun | 04:28 |
squinn | yes | 04:28 |
ajmitch | it'll most likely cause a lot of pain trying to downgrade substantial amounts | 04:28 |
squinn | well main concern is gettin dpkg at least usable | 04:29 |
ajmitch | so comment out that option | 04:29 |
squinn | most other files dgraded quietly | 04:29 |
squinn | doen | 04:29 |
squinn | done | 04:29 |
ajmitch | dpkg should be usable now | 04:29 |
chillywilly | hey | 04:31 |
ajmitch | hi chillywilly | 04:31 |
squinn | ajmitch, you're a god | 04:31 |
bddebian | Networking won't start in recovery mode? | 04:31 |
bddebian | Heya chillywilly | 04:31 |
ajmitch | squinn: nah | 04:32 |
squinn | and/or a developer | 04:32 |
squinn | and/or a MOTU | 04:32 |
ajmitch | just a motu | 04:34 |
bddebian | just a MOFO | 04:34 |
ajmitch | bddebian, as usual.. | 04:35 |
bddebian | WTF is up with networking in Ubuntu? | 04:37 |
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ajmitch | bddebian: nothing wrong that I know of | 04:38 |
bddebian | When I first installed I changed /etc/network/interfaces and it didn't do shit?? | 04:38 |
ajmitch | because you didn't do it right?? | 04:40 |
bddebian | d000d | 04:40 |
ajmitch | seriously, your 'bug report' is so vague as to be rather unhelpful :) | 04:40 |
bddebian | Oh, this is supposed to be a bug report? | 04:41 |
ajmitch | no, but saying 'it doesn't do shit' won't get much help | 04:41 |
bddebian | I set my interfaces file up the way I normally do in Debian and it was still using DHCP. I couldn't set a static IP until I used the GUI interface | 04:42 |
ajmitch | depends if you took the interface down & put it up again | 04:42 |
ajmitch | since ubuntu uses the same networking packages as debian | 04:42 |
bddebian | ajmitch: I tried. init.d/networking restart filed .. stop failed.. etc | 04:43 |
ajmitch | and start did what? | 04:43 |
bddebian | failed | 04:44 |
ajmitch | and the logs say? | 04:44 |
bddebian | Oh yeah, logs | 04:44 |
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bddebian | NM | 04:46 |
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martinjh99 | Morning all - Do you have any beginners documentation on creating packages? I would like to create packages of KDE themes for my own personal repo... | 05:43 |
schweeb | martinjh99: the debian new maintainer's guide | 05:44 |
schweeb | martinjh99: it's at debian.org somewhere | 05:45 |
schweeb | or check https://wiki.ubuntu.com | 05:45 |
schweeb | there is some documentation on there | 05:45 |
schweeb | under the MOTU section I believe | 05:45 |
schweeb | there's a pbuilder howto and such | 05:45 |
martinjh99 | I will have another look at the Debian maintainers guide - It went a bit over my head to start of with ;) Will have a look at the Ubuntu wiki as well! | 05:46 |
schweeb | sorry I can't help you with links, but you can find them just as easily as I can | 05:47 |
martinjh99 | No worries about that! I can use Google with the best of them! | 05:47 |
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\sh | morning | 08:52 |
Lathiat | hm i think im heading towards the dark side | 08:56 |
Lathiat | im becoming fond of kde | 08:56 |
jsgotangco | hmm that's not so dark | 08:56 |
jsgotangco | what im probably using now is much darker | 08:56 |
Lathiat | windows? | 08:57 |
jsgotangco | nahh | 08:57 |
jsgotangco | im using Ion | 08:57 |
jsgotangco | heh | 08:57 |
Lathiat | ah | 08:57 |
Lathiat | haha | 08:57 |
Lathiat | can i get kmail to cache all messages? | 08:57 |
jsgotangco | hmm who's the kde kingpin here | 08:58 |
jsgotangco | heh | 08:58 |
jsgotangco | (aside from Riddell) | 08:58 |
Lathiat | \sh ? | 08:58 |
jsgotangco | ahh yes a krew member *grin* | 08:58 |
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dholbach | morning | 09:00 |
\sh | what? | 09:00 |
\sh | hey daniel | 09:00 |
dholbach | hey stephan :) | 09:00 |
jsgotangco | dholbach, daniel hey | 09:01 |
dholbach | jerome! :) | 09:01 |
\sh | Lathiat: cache all messages? u mean download them into a temp memory bucket and forget about everything after the app is closed? | 09:01 |
\sh | or do u mean only the message list? | 09:01 |
\sh | the messagelist is downloaded and also saved in your .kde dir | 09:02 |
Lathiat | nah as in, cache the contents of all all messages | 09:03 |
Lathiat | so i can view them offline | 09:03 |
Lathiat | and online without waiting | 09:04 |
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\sh | Lathiat: no..only download all the stuff | 09:06 |
Lathiat | \sh: and any idea if icanset "thread messages" on allfolders by default? | 09:06 |
\sh | Lathiat: w8 i have to check where it is | 09:06 |
\sh | Lathiat: configure kmail -> Appearance -> TAB Message List | 09:07 |
\sh | In the General Options there is "Threaded Messages list" | 09:07 |
Lathiat | ahh | 09:08 |
Lathiat | cheers | 09:08 |
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jsgotangco | dholbach, its been a while since i saw/talked to you, how are you doing lately | 09:24 |
dholbach | jsgotangco: i'm very busy with my thesis, an exam i have to write and my move to berlin (in 8-9 weeks it's over :)) | 09:25 |
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jsgotangco | dholbach, you've been busy :) | 09:26 |
dholbach | i still am | 09:27 |
dholbach | but i'm fine :) | 09:27 |
dholbach | how are ou? | 09:27 |
jsgotangco | oh i'm doing good, a bit boring lately though | 09:27 |
dholbach | the MOTU world should help you get rid of tediousness :) | 09:29 |
dholbach | although... we have tedious work as well :) | 09:30 |
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\sh | hmm..irgendwie schein ich doch in ein fettnaepchen getreten zu haben | 09:55 |
dholbach | whats wrong? | 09:55 |
\sh | sorry... | 09:55 |
\sh | i just wrote an article after I read your remark to michaels article ;) | 09:55 |
dholbach | what are you talking about? | 09:57 |
\sh | http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/43-Additions-to-The-Ubuntu-Community-Model.html | 09:58 |
dholbach | what went wrong? i read your blog entry yesterday? | 09:58 |
dholbach | everybody who got a NEW package into ubuntu: file an rfp | 10:03 |
dholbach | i'll have to do that myself | 10:03 |
dholbach | (figure out how that works) | 10:03 |
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\sh | dholbach: the first guy misunderstood me :) | 10:13 |
dholbach | first guy? michael? | 10:13 |
\sh | ricardo (the comments on my article) | 10:13 |
dholbach | ah | 10:14 |
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dholbach | brb | 11:59 |
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tseng | hi dholbach | 12:14 |
dholbach | re :) | 12:14 |
dholbach | brandon, how are you? | 12:14 |
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tseng | dholbach: good. are you done school yet? | 12:15 |
dholbach | haha :) | 12:15 |
dholbach | 8 weeks | 12:15 |
tseng | ! | 12:15 |
dholbach | if i don't have a heart attack before :) | 12:15 |
jsgotangco | morning tseng | 12:15 |
tseng | gymnasium ist scheishause | 12:16 |
tseng | hi jsgotangco | 12:16 |
dholbach | hahahaha | 12:16 |
dholbach | fachhochschule in this case, but it was a near miss ;) | 12:16 |
tseng | fachhoch? | 12:16 |
tseng | ist dem "tech" schule? | 12:17 |
dholbach | "university of applied sciences" | 12:17 |
tseng | indeed. | 12:17 |
jsgotangco | is that word an education thing | 12:17 |
dholbach | it's a silly word :) | 12:17 |
tseng | yeah german has different types of schools | 12:17 |
jsgotangco | sounds silly | 12:18 |
tseng | starting wiht our highschool | 12:18 |
dholbach | haha :) | 12:18 |
tseng | i think you graduate when you are about 15 or 16? and can get an unskilled job | 12:18 |
tseng | or go onto a specialized school | 12:18 |
jsgotangco | schule is school? | 12:18 |
tseng | yes | 12:18 |
jsgotangco | interesting | 12:20 |
jsgotangco | im quite interested in the language | 12:20 |
tseng | well its fun, you can just throw random words together into one big long string | 12:21 |
tseng | fachhoch is apperantly something about science. so you get fachhochschule :D | 12:21 |
dholbach | hochschule would be highschool | 12:21 |
Treenaks | fach is a subject, hoch is high | 12:21 |
Treenaks | or is fach more like an occupation? | 12:22 |
jsgotangco | fachschule? | 12:22 |
dholbach | nevermind me - i shouldn't be here anyway :) | 12:22 |
jsgotangco | sounds fun | 12:22 |
tseng | dholbach: :( | 12:22 |
tseng | i would have studied more german if i stayed in school | 12:22 |
tseng | i dont have the patience for this | 12:23 |
dholbach | Treenaks: it's like a university, but it's a more practical, the groups are smaller - i like it better | 12:23 |
Treenaks | dholbach: It's called "Hoger beroepsonderwijs" in Dutch I think :) they call themselves "University" abroad | 12:23 |
JanC | "fach" means something like "skill" | 12:23 |
Treenaks | JanC: *headdesk* of course | 12:24 |
JanC | but not exactly :) | 12:24 |
JanC | "vak" in Dutch :) | 12:24 |
dholbach | Treenaks: dutch is so funny :) | 12:24 |
dholbach | Treenaks: (you must think the same about german :) | 12:24 |
Treenaks | dholbach: yes ;) | 12:25 |
dholbach | hehe | 12:25 |
JanC | I think "Fachhochschule" would be "industrile hogeschool" in Belgian Dutch | 12:25 |
dholbach | ok... i try to find a segfault in my code ... see you later | 12:25 |
JanC | or maybe just "hogeschool" | 12:26 |
jsgotangco | im going home | 12:29 |
jsgotangco | see you guys later | 12:30 |
dholbach | bye jerome :) | 12:31 |
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dholbach | see you later | 03:14 |
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bddebian | Hello | 05:33 |
Nafallo | hi bddebian | 05:33 |
bddebian | Hi Nafallo | 05:33 |
bddebian | OK, thanks to ajmitch, I have Breezy running. Someone give me a bug to look at.. :-) | 05:40 |
ivoks | :) | 05:45 |
\sh | jo | 05:46 |
\sh | cheers btw | 05:47 |
bddebian | Hello ivoks, \sh | 05:57 |
bddebian | So either I have to find my own bug, or you people don't believe me since I haven't done shit yet.. :-) | 05:59 |
\sh | ?? | 06:00 |
ivoks | ? | 06:00 |
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\sh | ? | 06:01 |
ivoks | lots of questions :) | 06:01 |
bddebian | Sorry, I'm mainly playing around. I think I do that too much.. | 06:02 |
schweeb | bddebian: either go in malone and find an open one, or go through build logs | 06:02 |
bddebian | schweeb: I know. I was hoping someone knew of some more n00b tasks. :-) | 06:03 |
schweeb | heh | 06:03 |
schweeb | you could work on the wiki or something | 06:03 |
\sh | bddebian: 1. wiki 2. malone 3. cxx that was my way | 06:04 |
bddebian | Well as I try to look at bugs, I am considering an MOTUn00b page ;-) | 06:04 |
\sh | bloody hell, i'm melting | 06:04 |
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\sh | since I came back from work, me too | 06:04 |
\sh | but this is now riddiculus | 06:05 |
\sh | i need a new flat | 06:05 |
ivoks | hm... nice... | 06:06 |
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ivoks | kde will do API for wikipedia | 06:06 |
schweeb | I love VPNs | 06:06 |
\sh | ivoks: sure | 06:06 |
\sh | ivoks: we're going on ;) | 06:07 |
ivoks | going on? :) | 06:07 |
\sh | going on with our life ;) and our desktop ,-) | 06:07 |
ivoks | yeah.. | 06:07 |
\sh | but I think gnome will also do some wikipedia stuff | 06:08 |
ivoks | linux is looking good every day even better for desktop | 06:08 |
\sh | ivoks: since 4 years now | 06:08 |
ivoks | \sh: sure they will | 06:08 |
schweeb | hell, I've been using it as a desktop for like 3.5 years | 06:08 |
ivoks | someone will do that for windows too :) and osx | 06:08 |
\sh | as i wrote in my blog , linux is overdue for the desktop | 06:08 |
schweeb | (linux that is, not KDE) | 06:08 |
ivoks | schweeb: i'm using it since '98 :) | 06:08 |
\sh | schweeb: i'm running linux since 1995 as desktop | 06:09 |
schweeb | well, I've been using linux since 97, but not as a full time desktop | 06:09 |
ivoks | man, i need to loose weight | 06:11 |
ivoks | :) | 06:11 |
ivoks | nice, v9fs in linux 2.6.13 | 06:13 |
ivoks | ubuntu should have certificat system :) | 06:15 |
siretart | re | 06:15 |
bddebian | wb siretart | 06:16 |
Lathiat | v9fs? | 06:17 |
ivoks | plan9's filesystem | 06:18 |
siretart | and what kind of cert system would we need? | 06:19 |
siretart | do you mean a CA? | 06:19 |
schweeb | is there anything particularly useful about plan9, or its filesystem? | 06:20 |
siretart | does anyone here has experience with mod python? | 06:23 |
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ivoks | highway is done! finally... only 3 hours to split :) | 06:24 |
\sh | siretart: ogra has | 06:26 |
ogra | huh ? | 06:26 |
\sh | mod_python? | 06:26 |
\sh | or python cgi only? | 06:27 |
siretart | btw, current status of revu can be seen here: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ | 06:27 |
ogra | nope.... i dont abuse apache as application server ..... i have not had a case where a cgi wasnt good enough... | 06:27 |
\sh | ogra: but your hwdb? | 06:27 |
siretart | well, mod_python isn't really much more than cgi. | 06:28 |
ogra | \sh, cgi | 06:28 |
ogra | \sh, and no, the slowness isnt caused by the fact that its a cgi :) | 06:28 |
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shawarma | hi! I need a piece of advise. I'm the package of user-profile, a new GNOME tool to change your passwd and GECOS info. The first version, I packaged had no version, so I just called it version 1.0, and my first package had the full version of 1.0-1. I made a new release called 1.0-2. Now, the author has adopted my versioning, and called his package version 1.0-3... What should I do now? | 06:35 |
shawarma | How do I handle an upstream version that has dashes in it? | 06:36 |
ivoks | ? | 06:36 |
ivoks | who's upstream? | 06:36 |
shawarma | A dude called Domenique Tillleuil. | 06:36 |
shawarma | Why? | 06:36 |
ivoks | shawarma: does he create debian packages as well? | 06:37 |
shawarma | No. That's "my job". | 06:37 |
shawarma | ivoks: Why? | 06:38 |
ivoks | hm... then ask him to version his program in x.y.z format | 06:38 |
ivoks | shawarma: url of upstream? | 06:38 |
shawarma | ivoks: Right. I'll do that, but now he has actually released a version with this version. | 06:38 |
shawarma | http://eros.homelinux.net:4000/~domenique | 06:38 |
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shawarma | What am I supposed to do if I come across another piece of software with a dash in the version? Just substitute a dot? | 06:39 |
ivoks | The new source can be found here Debian packages will have to wait for a while but as soon as i've got them, i'll post them here :) | 06:39 |
ivoks | he does debian packages | 06:39 |
shawarma | No. I do. :-) | 06:39 |
shawarma | I have an "agreement" with him,that he e-mails me whenever he releases a new version, and I package it. | 06:40 |
ivoks | ah, ok :) | 06:41 |
ivoks | tell him that he has to change versioning | 06:41 |
ivoks | and you can apply diff to your package | 06:41 |
ivoks | and bump version to 1.0-3ubuntu1 | 06:42 |
siretart | shawarma: Personally, I'd package it with upstream version 1.0.3, and mention in the changelog, that its actually 1.0-3 | 06:42 |
ivoks | or that... | 06:42 |
shawarma | I think that's what I'll do, actually. | 06:43 |
shawarma | Thanks for the advice. | 06:43 |
ogra | shawarma, btw, your em-applet doesnt work :( | 06:44 |
ogra | shawarma, do you know if your upstream (about-me) is aware of this ? http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/DotUbuntuRegistrationClient | 06:46 |
Lathiat | hm, is anyone working on that? | 06:48 |
Lathiat | (dotubuntu) | 06:48 |
ivoks | ok, we need meta key for mouse :( | 06:49 |
ivoks | presing left and right mouse key is stoopid | 06:49 |
\sh | strike | 06:50 |
ivoks | win+left = middle key | 06:50 |
\sh | i have my progress bar in my listviewitem | 06:50 |
\sh | now can I drink another beer | 06:50 |
Lathiat | no, you may not | 06:50 |
ivoks | yay! beer | 06:50 |
\sh | at least I found kynaptic the first time useful :) | 06:51 |
Lathiat | kynaptic seems fairly useless to me | 06:51 |
Lathiat | doesnt even have search :\ | 06:51 |
Lathiat | damn these kde people, they have me tempted to switch | 06:52 |
ivoks | :) | 06:52 |
\sh | Lathiat: but it has one widget built in what i needed | 06:52 |
ivoks | \sh is guilty! :) | 06:52 |
Lathiat | heh | 06:52 |
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\sh | at least the idea how to do it | 06:52 |
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koke | hi MOTUs! | 07:10 |
\sh | hoi koke | 07:10 |
koke | are universe uploads restricted yet? | 07:10 |
koke | I've fixed tla-buildpackage | 07:11 |
\sh | if you 're motu you can upload..if it's a new package, put it on MOTUToReview or MOTUNewPackages | 07:13 |
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | review day! JOIN US: June, 27th | ||
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ivoks | re | 07:15 |
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siretart | excellent | 07:30 |
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ivoks | i hate ubuntu's cupsys | 07:39 |
ivoks | :< | 07:39 |
Lathiat | IT HATES YOU TOO | 07:39 |
ivoks | :) | 07:39 |
ivoks | you just can't create user that will be unable to print :) | 07:39 |
ivoks | so creating a decent print server is impossible | 07:39 |
siretart | how to add code to wiki? | 07:40 |
siretart | whats the code tags? | 07:40 |
siretart | {{{ ok | 07:40 |
mitsuhiko | siretart: I can be wrong but I thing {{{ is for processors | 07:41 |
mitsuhiko | arr. think | 07:41 |
mitsuhiko | ok. I was wrong {{{#ProcessorName is for Processors | 07:43 |
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siretart | does anyone want to play guinea pig for revu? ;) | 07:45 |
siretart | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU | 07:46 |
siretart | anyone? | 07:50 |
Lathiat | so | 07:50 |
Lathiat | what it for | 07:50 |
Lathiat | motus to upload and then have it sposnored by someone else? | 07:50 |
siretart | Lathiat: it is aimed to be a replacement for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTOToReview and MOTONewPackages | 07:52 |
Lathiat | ah | 07:52 |
siretart | I dont like the wiki for doing reviews. so I wrote revu ;) | 07:52 |
Lathiat | so as a submitter, i would submit a package ? | 07:52 |
Lathiat | with revu | 07:52 |
Lathiat | and then someone woudl review it? | 07:52 |
siretart | Lathiat: yes, sponsors will be able to download your package from revu, and upload it to the archive then | 07:53 |
Lathiat | ok i can do that | 07:53 |
siretart | great :) | 07:53 |
siretart | pass me your gnupg id then, (as instructed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU) | 07:54 |
Lathiat | hm | 07:54 |
Lathiat | sorry, gimme abit :) | 08:00 |
siretart | n/p. I'm afk for lunch | 08:02 |
DanielN | ogra, ping | 08:03 |
ogra | DanielN pong | 08:03 |
DanielN | what's the state of libsigcx-gtk-xx ? | 08:04 |
DanielN | would be nice if they're going uploaded, cause of libyehia :) | 08:04 |
ogra | DanielN ask ajmitch, its his package | 08:04 |
DanielN | but there's a bug report on bugzilla from you | 08:05 |
Lathiat | siretart: incoming | 08:05 |
ogra | DanielN and have a look at breezy-changes, i think he already uploaded | 08:05 |
DanielN | hm | 08:05 |
ogra | some time last week | 08:05 |
StoneTable | ogra: I'm working on packaging a new version of drivel (1.2.3 is in now, 2.0.1 is out). What's the new process for getting it reviewed? | 08:05 |
ogra | StoneTable, are you sure there is no 2.0.1 in debian ? | 08:06 |
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Lathiat | seb128 asked for drivel 2.0.1 to be synced from debain yesterday iirc | 08:06 |
StoneTable | heh, so there is | 08:06 |
ogra | ah, thats what i suspected | 08:06 |
StoneTable | good deal | 08:07 |
schweeb | speak of the devil | 08:07 |
schweeb | seb just joined #u-d | 08:08 |
DanielN | siretart, rev is nice work :) is it possible to see the source.. never taked a look over python stuff | 08:08 |
siretart | DanielN: I can mail you the sources. sorry, no distribution tarball available yet | 08:08 |
DanielN | ogra, The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 08:09 |
DanielN | libsigcx-gtk-0.6-dev: Depends: libsigcx-0.6-dev (= 0.6.4-4) but it is not going to be installed | 08:09 |
DanielN | Depends: libsigcx-gtk-0.6-1 (>= 0.6.4-4) but it is not going to be installed | 08:09 |
DanielN | siretart, would be nice.. mail it to neuenschwander@dev.erased.ch | 08:10 |
ogra | DanielN did it build ? | 08:10 |
DanielN | ogra, i'm trying to build yehia.. which has libsigcx-gtk-0.6-dev in deps | 08:10 |
siretart | Lathiat: you should now be able to proceed with uploading | 08:11 |
ogra | DanielN i know, i had yehia before, thats why i opened the bug about sigc | 08:11 |
DanielN | ah | 08:11 |
ogra | DanielN did sigcx build ? | 08:11 |
DanielN | ogra, never tried | 08:11 |
ogra | ajmitch uploaded on thursday.... so if its not in the archive you should look up its build log | 08:11 |
DanielN | ok.. can you point me again to the logs? | 08:12 |
Lathiat | siretart: yeh i have to unbreak my bzflag stuff first and its 2am and i want to sleep ;p | 08:12 |
Lathiat | i seem to have lost somethign somewhere and it thinks its debian native:) | 08:12 |
siretart | DanielN: done | 08:14 |
ogra | DanielN http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/ | 08:14 |
siretart | Lathiat: perhaps the orig.tar.gz? | 08:14 |
Lathiat | yeh | 08:14 |
Lathiat | i'll find it later ;p | 08:14 |
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DanielN | dam | 08:19 |
DanielN | damn | 08:19 |
DanielN | damn | 08:19 |
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DanielN | ogra, hmm.. seems that my pbuilder want to fetch the old libsigcx | 08:33 |
ogra | DanielN update it | 08:34 |
DanielN | done it already 2 times | 08:34 |
ogra | what did the buildlog say ? | 08:34 |
DanielN | it's ok.. and when i do apt-get source libsigcx i get the transisted one :/ | 08:35 |
ogra | Package: libsigcx-0.6-dev | 08:41 |
ogra | Section: libdevel | 08:41 |
ogra | Conflicts: libsigcx-0.5-dev | 08:41 |
ogra | Replaces: libsigcx-0.5-dev | 08:41 |
ogra | hrm.... | 08:41 |
DanielN | on packages.ubuntu.com there is still libsigcx_0.6.4-4 and not libsigcx_0.6.4-4ubuntu1 :/ | 08:44 |
ogra | DanielN see above (find the bug in my paste ;) ) | 08:44 |
DanielN | mhm sorry | 08:45 |
DanielN | don't find anything strange | 08:45 |
ogra | 0.5 isnt 0.6 | 08:46 |
DanielN | yeah | 08:47 |
DanielN | but should it replaces himself? | 08:47 |
DanielN | or what | 08:47 |
ogra | and that 0.6 0.5 replaces should be clear, you dont need to mention it .... | 08:47 |
DanielN | yeah | 08:47 |
ogra | yep | 08:47 |
DanielN | tell that ajmitch | 08:47 |
DanielN | :) | 08:47 |
ogra | DanielN hey, you wait for him :) | 08:48 |
ogra | so poke him to provide a fixed package ;) | 08:48 |
DanielN | so it _should_ replaces itself? | 08:48 |
ogra | yeps | 08:48 |
DanielN | huh... :/ | 08:48 |
DanielN | but not conflict | 08:48 |
ogra | since the version didnt change, you have to force it..... | 08:48 |
DanielN | yeah | 08:49 |
DanielN | ajmitch, ping ;) | 08:49 |
ogra | DanielN, hmmit could also be the archive script.... | 08:53 |
ogra | seems there is no binary ubuntu1 version http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libs/libsigcx/ | 08:53 |
ogra | DanielN so its probably a elmo problem... | 08:54 |
ogra | (or infinity) | 08:54 |
DanielN | yeah, it's not there, as i said :) | 09:08 |
DanielN | only source | 09:08 |
DanielN | ok then ping elmo ? | 09:08 |
DanielN | :> | 09:08 |
ogra | yep | 09:10 |
tseng | hi | 09:13 |
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JanC | jaldhar but personally I don't see anything that python is useful for that perl can't do already | 09:32 |
JanC | try rewriting zope in perl ? ;-) | 09:32 |
siretart | JanC: write code that is possible to understand 2 weeks later? *g* | 09:34 |
Seveas | You can do that in perl :) | 09:35 |
Seveas | It's just a bit hard... | 09:35 |
JanC | :-P | 09:35 |
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siretart | ogra: ping | 09:48 |
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sistpoty | I'm off for today... cya | 09:52 |
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ogra | siretart, pong | 09:53 |
siretart | ogra: I havn't heard any comments from you regarding revu. do you miss some feature? do you like it? | 09:54 |
ogra | siretart, i havent looked at the latest version yet.... i'll do after my dogwalk, he's waiting... | 09:54 |
siretart | okay | 09:55 |
siretart | have fun! :) | 09:55 |
ogra | Seveas, hey, thanks for the reply in ubuntu-devel ;) | 09:55 |
Seveas | yw ogra | 09:55 |
Seveas | You are doing the good work, so thanks for that ;) | 09:55 |
ogra | :) | 09:56 |
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\sh | re | 10:02 |
tseng | hi.. | 10:02 |
bddebian | Hello \sh | 10:03 |
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bddebian | \sh: Did you ever find "an html guy" ? | 10:03 |
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ivoks | re | 10:06 |
bddebian | Hello ivoks | 10:06 |
ivoks | hi bddebian | 10:07 |
ivoks | working hard? | 10:07 |
bddebian | No, I don't seem to be much help :-( | 10:07 |
\sh | bddebian: not right now | 10:07 |
ivoks | bddebian: i feel the same :( | 10:07 |
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ivoks | arghh.... man it's too hot here | 10:32 |
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ogra | siretart, let me see more if there is more, for now i'm fine with the tool and i think its a cool idea, but ask again if there is more to look at ;) | 10:45 |
siretart | ogra: I setup a wiki page for using it | 10:46 |
siretart | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU | 10:46 |
tseng | wee | 10:46 |
ogra | haha, i still looked at http://siretart.tauware.de/review-tool/ | 10:46 |
siretart | registration is only via mail by sending me the password (signed mail please) | 10:47 |
siretart | ogra: oh, I should remove that page ;) | 10:47 |
tseng | so do you have to be a MOTU to upload? | 10:47 |
siretart | tseng: no. you just need to be in the revu keyring | 10:47 |
tseng | ohoh | 10:47 |
siretart | 'just' | 10:47 |
ogra | siretart, could you unzip the diff.gz on the fly ? | 10:48 |
siretart | yeah, there is no possibility to register automatically for now | 10:48 |
ogra | and your demo had the buidlog included, that would be also a nice addition | 10:48 |
siretart | ogra: thats a good point for the todo list. yes, no problems | 10:48 |
siretart | ogra: I cannot build on my site. this feature will be in the next version hosted by \sh | 10:48 |
ogra | ah, great... but we should think about a place in the DC | 10:49 |
siretart | DC? | 10:49 |
ogra | datacenter | 10:49 |
ogra | (canonicals) | 10:49 |
siretart | ogra: I'd love to have it more integrated. no problem | 10:50 |
siretart | perhaps it could be a part of the launchpad? perhaps that would make authentication easier | 10:51 |
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ogra | siretart, i'll talk with mdz and sabdfl about it.... i think for launchpad you would need to integrate it much more with the launchpad infrastructure... lets keep this in mind for v2 ;) | 10:51 |
siretart | :) | 10:52 |
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ajmitch | morning | 11:07 |
siretart | hi ajmitch | 11:07 |
bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 11:07 |
ajmitch | ogra: about libsigcx - the conflicts & replaces on 0.5 were already there :) not sure why the build hasn't progressed to the mirrors though | 11:08 |
ajmitch | bddebian: what's up? | 11:08 |
bddebian | ajmitch: Nothing. :-( You? | 11:08 |
ogra | ajmitch, yes, i grokked that later, it must be something with the archive or something holds it back for whatever reason | 11:09 |
ajmitch | siretart: great, so you need my gpg/ssh key & a random password for revu? | 11:09 |
ajmitch | bddebian: sitting at work | 11:09 |
bddebian | Joy | 11:10 |
siretart | ajmitch: thats right | 11:10 |
siretart | scripts to automate this are welcome ;) | 11:10 |
ajmitch | siretart: is the password for the website? | 11:10 |
siretart | ajmitch: only for that, yes | 11:10 |
ajmitch | since you could do uploads via scp | 11:10 |
ajmitch | I can't automate something which I don't have any source to :) | 11:11 |
siretart | hm. in principle, yes. | 11:11 |
siretart | ajmitch: oh, thats really no problem *g* | 11:11 |
ajmitch | mentors.debian.net does scp uploads :) | 11:11 |
ajmitch | christoph haas used to hang around here | 11:11 |
siretart | ajmitch: do they provide everyone with shell access? | 11:11 |
ajmitch | a long time ago | 11:11 |
ajmitch | nope | 11:12 |
ajmitch | it's ben awhile since I used m.d.n | 11:12 |
siretart | hm. I'm using dscverify to verify the changes file | 11:12 |
siretart | so I would need a gpg key anyway. | 11:12 |
siretart | that should be a good practice for upcoming MOTUs ;) | 11:12 |
ajmitch | got automated lintian reports? | 11:13 |
ajmitch | I could also hack up something for filing debian bugs >:) | 11:13 |
siretart | currently, the process_uploads script just verifies if the changes file is correct and copys then all corresponding files to their location | 11:14 |
siretart | after that, some hooks are run for extracting the source package, run lintian and do other random things | 11:14 |
ajmitch | right | 11:15 |
siretart | but, why doesnt run-parts want to run my shell files.. hrmpf | 11:15 |
ajmitch | aha.. | 11:16 |
ajmitch | chmod +x? | 11:16 |
siretart | already done | 11:16 |
siretart | aha, they may not end with .sh.. | 11:17 |
siretart | strange.. | 11:17 |
ajmitch | siretart: what's your gpg id? | 11:18 |
siretart | pub 1024D/945348A4 2005-02-12 Reinhard Tartler <siretart@tauware.de> | 11:18 |
ajmitch | nevermind, found it on wiki | 11:18 |
ajmitch | hopefully you got the mail.. | 11:19 |
siretart | yes, I got it | 11:20 |
ajmitch | hmm, mutt might not have signedf it, one moment :) | 11:20 |
siretart | yes :) | 11:21 |
ajmitch | you want it signed? | 11:21 |
siretart | would be better. since I need your keyid ;) | 11:21 |
ajmitch | try now.. | 11:22 |
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ajmitch | ogra: oh..? | 11:22 |
ajmitch | what have we done wrong? | 11:22 |
ogra | ajmitch, read it, not you.... | 11:23 |
ajmitch | will wait for it to show up in inbox | 11:24 |
ogra | :) | 11:24 |
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ajmitch | can take awhile, I've noticed :) | 11:25 |
siretart | ajmitch: your second mail also did not get signed :( | 11:25 |
siretart | ah, what is your keyid? | 11:26 |
ajmitch | pff, it should have | 11:26 |
ajmitch | 61434dd6 | 11:26 |
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ajmitch | hey andrew | 11:28 |
siretart | ajmitch: done | 11:30 |
ajmitch | siretart: thanks | 11:30 |
ajmitch | so I ought to be able to login, right? :) | 11:30 |
siretart | with username 'ajmitch@ihug.co.nz', yes | 11:32 |
ajmitch | ah right | 11:33 |
ajmitch | I thought you'd have username as ajmitch | 11:33 |
ajmitch | logged in now | 11:33 |
Arrogance | hey Andrew. :) | 11:33 |
siretart | perhaps the wiki page should be updated | 11:33 |
siretart | ajmitch: you should now be able to comment any upload | 11:33 |
ajmitch | yay | 11:33 |
ajmitch | now I just need to be able to grab uploads easily | 11:34 |
tseng | siretart: can I maybe hack on the stylesheet a little bit? | 11:34 |
siretart | the advocating feature was intended for NEW uploads, where a upload need 3 reviewers saying 'ok' | 11:34 |
ajmitch | like a master Sources.gz | 11:34 |
siretart | tseng: your are perfectly welcome to do so! | 11:34 |
siretart | I'll prepare a source tarball | 11:34 |
tseng | the orange is a little bit much for me :) | 11:35 |
siretart | tseng: :) | 11:35 |
ajmitch | siretart: got open svn access for us all? | 11:35 |
siretart | ajmitch: I can give you svn access, if you want | 11:38 |
siretart | http://siretart.tauware.de/revu-r30.tar.gz for anyone interested | 11:39 |
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siretart | for everyone, hmm. I'll think about it | 11:39 |
dholbach | HEY | 11:39 |
siretart | huhu dholbach | 11:39 |
dholbach | hey tseng | 11:40 |
dholbach | :) | 11:40 |
bddebian | Hello dholbach | 11:40 |
dholbach | hi siretart | 11:40 |
ajmitch | hey dholbach | 11:40 |
tseng | hi dholbach | 11:40 |
dholbach | did you kick off the review day already? | 11:40 |
tseng | dholbach: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ | 11:40 |
tseng | dholbach: siretart is the man! | 11:40 |
ajmitch | when does review day start? | 11:40 |
tseng | ajmitch: "tommorow" | 11:40 |
dholbach | 27th all timezones | 11:40 |
ajmitch | since it's the 27th here already | 11:40 |
dholbach | so here we go! :) | 11:40 |
tseng | whenever people start coming | 11:40 |
ajmitch | and has been for nearly 10 hours | 11:41 |
ogra | ajmitch, over all timezones ;) | 11:41 |
ogra | so it already started :) | 11:41 |
tseng | its review day in NZ | 11:41 |
ogra | yeah | 11:41 |
ajmitch | fun | 11:41 |
ajmitch | so what shall I grab first? | 11:41 |
siretart | tseng: and don't forget sistpoty. he was here today ;) | 11:41 |
dholbach | i'll start in 20 minutes ;) | 11:41 |
ogra | ajmitch, go ahead, start reviewing :) | 11:41 |
tseng | that is a very gross nick | 11:41 |
ogra | dholbach, its already 27th | 11:42 |
ogra | dholbach, you said all TZ :) | 11:42 |
ogra | so ajmitch should start reviewing... :) | 11:42 |
dholbach | yeah, but it'll start in 18 minutes for me | 11:42 |
bddebian | Yeah ajmitch, do something for once. ;-P | 11:42 |
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ajmitch | I'll do most of mine tonight | 11:42 |
ajmitch | since I can't take too much time out of work :) | 11:43 |
ajmitch | has MOTUToReview been cleared of old packages? | 11:43 |
ajmitch | like Unfrgiven's iptraf that was uploaded? | 11:43 |
=== ajmitch will start with that, I think :) | ||
=== ogra still tries to calm down... | ||
dholbach | we should move all of them to "done" | 11:44 |
tseng | great idea | 11:44 |
dholbach | ogra: what's wrong | 11:44 |
tseng | is "done" really relevant/ | 11:44 |
ogra | dholbach, read y last mail to -devel | 11:44 |
dholbach | ogra: in a minute | 11:44 |
ajmitch | some aren't done, but are just irrelevant | 11:45 |
ajmitch | like the selinux packages by trulux are mostly for main, and handled separately | 11:45 |
ogra | i'm really upset... this guy ignores me ... and rants about "universe is unsupported", "you should backup before using universe pgk's" | 11:45 |
tseng | haha | 11:45 |
tseng | yes. | 11:45 |
ogra | grr | 11:45 |
tseng | openbox will totally fuck your box, dudes | 11:45 |
ogra | what a ignorant *censored* | 11:46 |
ajmitch | heh | 11:46 |
dholbach | calm down | 11:46 |
bddebian | Such hostility :-) | 11:46 |
dholbach | don't feed the troll | 11:46 |
ogra | dholbach, i try to... | 11:46 |
ajmitch | go outside, have a cigarette... :) | 11:47 |
ogra | :) | 11:48 |
bddebian | ajmitch: GREAT idea! ;-) | 11:48 |
ajmitch | ok, lathiat's bzflag has been sitting there, not uploaded.. | 11:49 |
=== ajmitch reviews :) | ||
ajmitch | oh why did the debian maintainer make it a native debian package?? | 11:51 |
=== siretart updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU with all questions (and answers) I got today | ||
Seveas | tomboy (0.3.2-4ubuntu7) breezy; urgency=low | 11:52 |
Seveas | . | 11:52 |
Seveas | * Rebuild for this weeks d-bus API | 11:52 |
siretart | ajmitch: I asked him | 11:52 |
Seveas | are we having api-of-the-week contests? | 11:52 |
Seveas | :) | 11:52 |
siretart | ajmitch: he is also upstream and releases for debian first | 11:52 |
dholbach | siretart: an encrypted mail? | 11:52 |
ajmitch | siretart: just because he's also upstream doesn't mean it should be a native package | 11:52 |
siretart | dholbach: signed and encrypted would be best | 11:52 |
dholbach | ok | 11:52 |
ajmitch | since it requires a ~9MB upload for even a spelling mistake in the control file... | 11:52 |
siretart | ajmitch: I didn't want to mess with him | 11:53 |
siretart | I think I have his email somewhere around here | 11:53 |
ogra | Seveas, only for dbus :) | 11:53 |
siretart | ajmitch: ah, here: <quote>Just that I normally do the debian package before making the actual release tarball. For most releases the two tarballs are identical. </quote> | 11:54 |
ajmitch | how very irritating | 11:55 |
ajmitch | I'm still downloading the files to review.. | 11:58 |
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