[12:00] <wondershowzen> hi, I am trying to install ubuntu, i get to the "Configuring Network with DHCP" and it never goes past 0%, what should I do?
[12:00] <searcher`> only for irssi
[12:00] <azumanga> Better not run any of those terminals as root tho! If someone hacks into your session they can use that to get root access!
[12:00] <Seveas> screen + mc + clusterssh = great network management :)
[12:00] <tiglionabbit> wondershowzen: does your service support dhcp?
[12:00] <Seveas> azumanga, duh :)
[12:00] <searcher`> azumanga: if anyone breaks into my house they can take my pc!
[12:00] <njan> Seveas, Active Directory = better network management :-P
[12:00] <wondershowzen> i dont know, how could i check?
[12:00] <searcher`> it's all about how paranoid you are
[12:00] <hramrach> wondershowzen: skip network configuration?
[12:00] <Seveas> njan, hehehe :)
[12:00] <azumanga> I'm running root X right now! BWAHAHAHA!!
[12:01] <wondershowzen> well i dont know how to skip :\ it doesnt give me very many options... just does stuff
[12:01] <Seveas>  /kill azumanga
[12:01] <Seveas> :p
[12:01] <azumanga> mainly because I've well and truely f**ked up gcc / g++ / libstdc++-v3 and am trying to piece sensibleness back together :\
[12:01] <tiglionabbit> hramrach: network config is very important for deb distros...  I couldn't imagine using it without internet
[12:02] <netsurf> ok i am helping a friend install ubuntu 64bit to an external harddrive that runs via usb ide adaptor the install is perfect but for some reason the grub bootloader cannot mount the partion a code 17 error the system has 4 hd 2 one 74gb raptor (hd0) raid stripe (hd1) and the usb hd that the computer is installing to (hd2) install works fine as i said but will not mount partition gets no further than that
[12:02] <tiglionabbit> azumanga: that's bad.  Why don't you reinstall build-essential?
[12:02] <azumanga> cos it's my own compile of g++. In this case I know (vaguely) what I'm doing, and it's quite unusual :) It's fine, I'm sure I'll figure it out
[12:03] <wondershowzen> umm what should i do?
[12:03] <searcher`> azumanga: does apt-get even like that sort of stuff?
[12:03] <azumanga> No, it's throwing a strop. Thats part of the problem
[12:03] <hramrach> wondershowzen: do you have some idea how is your network configured?
[12:03] <searcher`> yikes
[12:03] <netsurf> any ideas for my problem?
[12:03] <tiglionabbit> you have to suppress it.  Read the wiki
[12:04] <tiglionabbit> make it pin those packages or something
[12:04] <wondershowzen> heh i suppose i could find out somehow?
[12:04] <azumanga> i think I'm gonna figure out how to run my own local package repository and then put empty g++ / gcc / etc packages in there at a really high version
[12:04] <searcher`> you could a chroot environment, that way you won't mess up your `good' install
[12:04] <Seveas> azumanga, use equivs
[12:04] <searcher`> *use
[12:04] <PoopinClumpin> is there a way to add icons to the gnome desktop in ubuntu for home folder and browser and such
[12:04] <zenlunatic> How do I play avi's in totem?
[12:05] <azumanga> I should probably try to find a nicer way of doing all this.. :)
[12:05] <searcher`> PoopinClumpin: you can drag most of the icons from the panel to the desktop
[12:05] <netsurf> zenlunatic totem "myvideo.avi" ?
[12:05] <zerokills> zenlunatic: use VLC, it is the answer to all of my media prayers
[12:05] <PoopinClumpin> searcher`,  theres not way to just make shortcuts from the desktop?
[12:06] <PoopinClumpin> like how you rightclick in windows to make shortcut
[12:06] <searcher`> you can use the Configuration Editor to put links for Home, Documents and Computer
[12:06] <PoopinClumpin> oh ok I'll try that
[12:06] <searcher`> well you can rightclick and select `Create Launcher'
[12:06] <Will__> Gnome has became amazingly unconfigaruble
[12:07] <searcher`> that gives a dialog in which you can specify the program to start
[12:07] <netsurf> ok i am helping a friend install ubuntu 64bit to an external harddrive that runs via usb ide adaptor the install is perfect but for some reason the grub bootloader cannot mount the partion a code 17 error the system has 4 hd 2 one 74gb raptor (hd0) raid stripe (hd1) and the usb hd that the computer is installing to (hd2) install works fine as i said but will not mount partition gets no further than that
[12:07] <Will__> Dear gods I am illiterate
[12:07] <Seveas> netsurf: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[12:07] <searcher`> Will__: lets not get caught up in the whole menu editor thing ;-)
[12:07] <Dj_AlTeK> hey seveas i got the cvs of cedega to work
[12:07] <netsurf> seveas: sorry
[12:07] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, nice :)
[12:07] <tiglionabbit> PoopinClumpin: right-click, select "create link"
[12:07] <Fnoy> how do i get xmms
[12:08] <Fnoy> like is ther a apt code for it
[12:08] <Seveas> Fnoy, sudo aptitude install xmms
[12:08] <Seveas> you need to enable universe though
[12:08] <PoopinClumpin> tiglionabbit, i dont not have "create link" when i right click
[12:08] <loply> how do you get a 2.6 linux kernel compile to give the old (2.4) style compilation messages?
[12:08] <Seveas> Fnoy: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:08] <Fnoy> what does sudo mean?
[12:08] <Seveas> Fnoy: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[12:08] <tiglionabbit> PoopinClumpin: right-click on a file
[12:08] <Seveas> sudo means: run as root
[12:08] <PoopinClumpin> ah ok
[12:08] <searcher`> super user do
[12:08] <PoopinClumpin> sudo = super user do
[12:08] <Fnoy> ok
[12:08] <searcher`> su
[12:08] <Will__> Ideally everything I install should have an aqua theme to it. Don't ask why. I just find a burning need to aqua any skillable application/enviroment
[12:09] <concept10> netsurf, you may need to search for answers on that.  Your system has to be able to recognize a USB drive from boot.  Check the BIOS for boot from USB settings
[12:09] <netsurf> how do you mean?
[12:09] <hramrach> Excess flood is annoying, you cannot paste at all :/
[12:10] <netsurf> i have been looking elsewhere first
[12:10] <netsurf> i find no likeness of it
[12:10] <searcher`> netsurf: a USB drive should show up as an /dev/sda device
[12:10] <zenlunatic> zerokills: sound isn't working in VLC
[12:11] <netsurf> ya it did
[12:11] <tiglionabbit> hramrach: ?  use #flood or a pastebin
[12:11] <searcher`> just install using the install cd
[12:11] <Fnoy> sorry if im a n00b but i was getting mad at getting viruses every 5 seconds
[12:11] <zerokills> zenlunatic: go into terminal and type: pkill esd, then try it
[12:11] <netsurf> it was detected as /dev/sdd
[12:11] <concept10> netsurf, for example.  When you power your computer on, and it goes over to GRUB, your hardware needs to be able to recognize a USB drive (have drivers in memory)
[12:11] <searcher`> and set the bios to boot from USB, like someone else said
[12:11] <Fnoy> thats why i moved to linux
[12:11] <concept10> netsurf, I tried to boot from a external USB - unsuccesful
[12:11] <ttyS0> why doesn't ubuntu recognize my xerox phaser 3121? :\
[12:11] <searcher`> Fnoy: Apple is good too ... or can't you say that in a linux channel ;-)
[12:12] <netsurf> hmm
[12:12] <tiglionabbit> Fnoy: if you're dual boot or still use windows, I strongly recommend trying out http://free.grisoft.com
[12:12] <concept10> netsurf, make life easier for yourself, install on internal drive
[12:12] <PoopinClumpin> is it normal for eye of gnome to not be able to view jpegs from a networked samba share but still be able to view a local copy of the same file
[12:12] <netsurf> ok
[12:12] <zenlunatic> zerokills: that worked thx
[12:12] <zerokills> zenlunatic, np
[12:13] <concept10> netsurf, and use the external drive for backup/storage etc
[12:13] <netsurf> ok
[12:13] <brainformat> hi
[12:13] <zenlunatic> zerokills: that killed my streaming mp3
[12:13] <zenlunatic> zerokills: how do i start esd back?
[12:13] <krmeljivi> hi brain
[12:13] <zerokills> zenlunatic, just type esd
[12:14] <Fnoy> tiglionabbit i dont have windows on my hd
[12:14] <zerokills> zenlunatic, i turn esd on and off a lot during my sessions
[12:14] <netsurf> concept so what difference is there between the grub and lilo?
[12:14] <tiglionabbit> Fnoy: I'm dual boot.  Like it or not, there are some things it does better...   but very few, and they'll probably disappear once I pay for crossover office and cedega
[12:15] <tiglionabbit> netsurf: people like grub better?
[12:15] <netsurf> lol
[12:15] <concept10> netsurf, there are many differences.  search on that, grub is more configurable
[12:15] <tiglionabbit> they're similar.  Different distros prefer different bootloaders.  I'm not sure on the specifics, but grub has always been good to me
[12:16] <concept10> I hate the way grub names the drives and partitions, but thats my only complaint about it
[12:17] <netsurf> only thing i hate about grub is that i use suse and it uses the big glossy pictures which cause problems if something changes
[12:17] <ThE__OnE> how do i kill a port?
[12:17] <yuacht> hello. could somebody please guide me through setting up a ftp server and creating accounts? proftpd will be used. please MSG me
[12:17] <concept10> netsurf, you can change that
[12:17] <tiglionabbit> zerokills: smoking kills.  http://newgrounds.com/portal/view/135786
[12:17] <Will__> Ideally everything I install should have an aqua theme to it. Don't ask why. I just find a burning need to aqua any skillable application/enviroment
[12:17] <netsurf> concept10 SUPER
[12:18] <ThE__OnE> how do i kill a port?
[12:18] <tiglionabbit> ThE__OnE: better get your shotgun
[12:18] <ThE__OnE> and does anyone know what Ipp service is?
[12:18] <netsurf> all i need to know now is how to reinstall grub
[12:18] <ThE__OnE> someone has told me in ehre be4
[12:18] <mjr> ThE__OnE, internet printing protocol
[12:18] <mjr> ThE__OnE, cups is the daemon servicing that
[12:18] <concept10> ThE__OnE, yep
[12:18] <netsurf> ipp is the cups user isn't it?
[12:18] <ThE__OnE> no there is a command to put in terminal
[12:19] <ThE__OnE> is it safe to kill that?
[12:20] <concept10> Will__, why do you keep posting that?
[12:20] <ThE__OnE> so how cna i ill a port, in firestarter it says firefox-bin is open in port 80 but i dunt even have firefox open
[12:20] <netsurf> i had to reinstall linux once the cups server used 100% of cpu constantly no reason for it just all the time how odd
[12:21] <concept10> ThE__OnE, im using your port 80 to browse the classifieds
[12:21] <ttyS0> have anybody used xerox phaser 3121 on ubuntu?
[12:21] <ThE__OnE> neturf, so is it safe to kill that protocol?
[12:21] <T5> netsurf, large network?
[12:21] <ThE__OnE> concept10, it might be eaier to search for then than use my ip
[12:21] <concept10> ttyS0, what is that
[12:21] <krmeljivi> is it possible to install fluxbox on ubuntu
[12:22] <loply> ive just compiled a custom kernel for my ubuntu box and the kernel is unable to mount the root fs- Do i need to include an initrd or something? (the root fs is just ext3...)
[12:22] <concept10> ThE__OnE, just kidding :)
[12:22] <ttyS0> concept10, printer
[12:22] <tiglionabbit> krmeljivi: yes.  There is a package for it, but it's a bit old.  You'll have to run the menu generator script on the website
[12:22] <T5> maybe its the cups browsing feature that automatically searches for network printers
[12:22] <netsurf> nope
[12:22] <netsurf> t5, no[e
[12:22] <njan> ok.. trying to debootstrap hoary off a knoppix CD
[12:22] <njan> I: Validating base-passwd
[12:22] <njan> I: Validating bash
[12:22] <njan> I: Validating bind9-host
[12:22] <njan> I: Validating bsdmainutils
[12:22] <njan> I: Retrieving bsdutils
[12:22] <njan> E: Couldn't download bsdutils
[12:22] <njan> root@0[debootstrap-0.2.45ubuntu38] #
[12:22] <njan> ack.. apologies, only meant to copy 3 lines
[12:23] <njan> anyone any ideas why it's failing with that?
[12:23] <concept10> ttyS0, have you tried www.linuxpriting.org ?
[12:23] <tiglionabbit> njan:  do not paste here.  Use #flood or a pastebin
[12:23] <ThE__OnE> and becsdes, some idiots here are trying to connect to it
[12:23] <ThE__OnE> besides
[12:23] <ThE__OnE> i should just post the hostname here
[12:23] <ThE__OnE> shuold i?
[12:23] <ttyS0> concept10, not yet. i'll try now :) ty
[12:24] <njan> loply, did you compile file system drivers for your filing system into the kernel?
[12:24] <ThE__OnE> and the nick
[12:24] <njan> loply, s/your filing system/your root filing system/
[12:24] <loply> njan: Yeah, ext3... Does the inclusion of an initrd in the included Ubuntu kernels influence the partition number?
[12:25] <zerokills> tiglionabbit, smoking kills?
[12:25] <Seveas> loply, not at all
[12:25] <concept10> ttyS0, I just checked dont see your printer
[12:25] <likkashot> hi
[12:25] <netsurf> hi
[12:26] <loply> Weird, the kernel definately acts as if I have supplied an invalid root=/ option, but its the same as the other kernels which work fine
[12:26] <ttyS0> concept10, oh :(
[12:26] <loply> Even if i havent included ext3, the FS should get mounted as ext3 afaik?
[12:26] <likkashot> Is there a way to install azureus on the ubuntu 64
[12:26] <likkashot> I cant get JRE to install
[12:26] <topyli> does the vlc plugin work with epiphany?
[12:26] <PoopinClumpin> me either likkashot
[12:27] <Fabian> can anyone explain to me, how I write a script in linux?
[12:27] <likkashot> hmm
[12:27] <loply> Fabian: Thats not something you can cover on IRC really (bit of a large subject)
[12:28] <Fabian> loply, I mean, just a simple script, which executes one command after another in a shell
[12:28] <Seveas> Fabian, go to tlpd.org and look for docs there :)
[12:28] <tekk> Alright, another question, I'm trying to run a file in the terminal, the terminal opens but then quickly closes out. Any suggestions on fixing this?
[12:28] <Juhaz> Fabian, just type the commands in a text file, put #!/bin/sh as the first line and chmod +x it
[12:28] <ThE__OnE> so does anyone know how to kill a specific port?
[12:29] <tiglionabbit> zerokills: well, what's worse than dying is living your entire life with screwed up lungs, yellow teeth, and a decreased immune system
[12:29] <jamie_k> (yes, still working on that)
[12:29] <likkashot> anything that replaces azureus for 64?
[12:29] <tiglionabbit> jamie_k: wanna download a CD?
[12:29] <Fabian> Juhaz, thank you. Then just clicking on it?
[12:29] <jamie_k> tiglionabbit: no optical drives
[12:29] <tiglionabbit> jamie_k: darn.  How'd you boot?
[12:30] <jamie_k> tiglionabbit: from the hard disk
[12:30] <loply> Fabian: Just make a file with the executable permission set, and put #!/bin/bash as the first line of the file
[12:30] <jamie_k> tiglionabbit: ...which has xp on it :-(
[12:30] <tekk> No answers? :(
[12:30] <concept10> ttyS0, try this http://www.linuxprinting.org/pipermail/xerox-list/2004q4/000394.html
[12:30] <Juhaz> Fabian, clicking would depend on where, but yeah, if you (double) click on it in nautilus for example, it asks if you want to show or run it
[12:30] <zyth> njan, any luck?
[12:30] <zerokills> tiglionabbit, true, im trying to quit, i have a nicotine gum, ive just been smoking for so long im miserable when i dont have smokes
[12:30] <Fabian> Juhaz, loply what does this #!/bin/sh or #!/bin/bash mean?
[12:30] <jamie_k> anyone know any nice, simple how-to that is clearer than NetbootInstallHotto on the ubuntu wiki ?
[12:30] <likkashot> I got Doom 3 and UTK3 for linux will I be able to run it on the 64 version?
[12:31] <ttyS0> concept10, ok
[12:31] <Juhaz> Fabian, what should that file be interpreted with it, for list of commands that's usually shell, bash or sh, but it could be perl or python or example in "scripts" written in those languages
[12:31] <njan> zyth, knoppix 3.9 kernel panics
[12:31] <ttyS0> concept10, i haven't kde though :)
[12:32] <ttyS0> and setup.sh doesn't run
[12:32] <njan> zyth, luckily, someone lazy and forgetful (me) left a copy of knoppix 3.8 on a fileserver in the corner and that appears to be working, debootstrapping now, although the guide on the ubuntu wiki on debootstrapping from knoppix is wrong and has incorrect commands and stupid URLs, so it's a slower process than I'd hoped :p
[12:32] <concept10> ttyS0, try to use the gnome printer util and install your drivers
[12:32] <Fabian> Juhaz, so bash would be the right thing to chose. Does it have to end with .sh?
[12:33] <ttyS0> concept10, already tried :)
[12:33] <Juhaz> Fabian, no, as long as it has that line and is executable
[12:34] <Fabian> Juhaz, to execute in a shell ./script ???
[12:34] <njan> zyth, any idea how long a debootstrap of haory takes these days? I feel like I'm installing gentoo :p
[12:34] <concept10> ttyS0, there is a linux driver from what I read , you just have to find it.  it may be on your install disk
[12:34] <ttyS0> it is
[12:34] <skel_> Eccck gentto isntall to hard
[12:34] <Juhaz> Fabian, yeah
[12:35] <Fabian> Juhaz, thanks and good nicht
[12:35] <zyth> njan, LOL.  No idea, but it's GOT to be less time than gentoo
[12:35] <Fabian> Juhaz, nicht = night! :D
[12:35] <njan> zyth, it'd better be, I need to go visit a client first thing tomorrow morning :p
[12:35] <likkashot> What do I need to instal to have nice speaker settings 5.1???
[12:35] <hramrach> I installed Gentoo and it took about a day. I guess debootstrap is faster than that unless you are using a modem
[12:36] <njan> hramrach, you evidently didn't do a stage 1 install then :p
[12:36] <TokenBad> is there a program for mounting bin files or iso files in ubuntu?
[12:36] <zyth> njan, at worst you can always install XP from system restore CDs ;)
[12:36] <njan> zyth, it didn't come with them, it came with a 6gb recovery partition, and guess what the first thing I did with partition magic was? :p
[12:37] <hramrach> njan: I had enough time to compile everything so I used it, partially because I wanted to test system stability :)
[12:37] <zyth> njan, Oh. Fun.
[12:37] <njan> zyth, It's not like with 100gb of space I was going to notice, but it's the principle that counts... ;)
[12:37] <zyth> njan, LOL :D
[12:37] <likkashot> What do I need to instal to have nice speaker settings 5.1???
[12:38] <Seveas> hi NewUbuntubie
[12:38] <Seveas> did it work..?
[12:38] <arjun> can someone help me? I can't connect to any backport mirrors.  my sources.list looks alright.
[12:38] <njan> <3.. mirrorservice.org is giving me ~150kb/s on most of these files :)
[12:38] <tiglionabbit> arjun: the backports mirrors aren't reliable
[12:39] <hramrach> likkashot: you need a sound card that supports it and that has a driver in linux that supports it as well :P
[12:39] <arjun> what backport server should i use?
[12:39] <tiglionabbit> arjun: have you read the website?  (type the url for it into your browser)
[12:39] <arjun> and if it connects it's good?
[12:40] <tiglionabbit> no, backports.ubuntuforums.com should explain some of it..  I'm not sure which ones are functional right now
[12:40] <concept10> ttyS0, you must use GDI drivers.  hope that helps
[12:40] <tiglionabbit> oops, wrong url.  The url for your repository
[12:41] <arjun> which repository?
[12:41] <ttyS0> concept10, ok, ty very much!
[12:42] <likkashot> hramrach, Ido have a card that suports it and the drivers are nforce drivers
[12:42] <tiglionabbit> arjun: the backports one.  sorry I'm being disorganized here, anyway I'm saying if you access the url through your browser, generally it will give you an html page about it.  The forums backports page explains which mirrors it has
[12:42] <concept10> Has anyone had problems connecting to the network with wireless after installing ndiswrapper?  I cant get it to find my router
[12:42] <tiglionabbit> http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[12:42] <tiglionabbit> .org, not .com, there we go
[12:42] <hramrach> likkashot: then you have answered yourself :)
[12:43] <likkashot> nope
[12:43] <likkashot> i want the speaker settings
[12:43] <likkashot> u know front back sub
[12:44] <jamie_k> ||||""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""anyone, anyone feel like hand-holding a frustrated noob who just cannot get its head around net-install?
[12:44] <jamie_k> sorry i didn't intend those first characters...
[12:46] <jamie_k> ... guess not heheh
[12:46] <ttyS0> is it possible to download multiple files with wget (i mean directory with files)?
[12:46] <hramrach> likkashot: maybe you could turn it on and off in alsamixer. And some dvd playback software or games could use it. I do not use 5.1 myself
[12:46] <zerokills> jamie_k, if i knew anything about the net-install i would help, sorry
[12:47] <likkashot> k
[12:49] <crappledev> wow, i must say that i am impressed with the ease in which the ubuntu installation went
[12:49] <Chiconudistagran> hola
[12:49] <Chiconudistagran> buenas noches
[12:49] <concept10> jamie_k, why net install
[12:49] <jamie_k> zerokills: it's okay -- i'm just rading tons of conflcting shit
[12:49] <Chiconudistagran> hi
[12:49] <Chiconudistagran> good night
[12:49] <jamie_k> concept10:  new machine, no optical drive
[12:49] <pr0ger> hey all have a apt-get error
[12:49] <pr0ger> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/d06uet39.html
[12:50] <pr0ger> not sure how to fix it
[12:50] <jamie_k> concept10: and the enclosre for my dvd drive is.... broken somehow
[12:51] <concept10> jamie_k, http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=71
[12:52] <pr0ger> :\
[12:52] <jamie_k> concept10:  reading, thx!
[12:53] <jamie_k> concept10: he has a floppy :-(
[12:53] <crappledev> no #ubuntuppc eh?
[12:53] <concept10> jamie_k, you have no flopply either?
[12:53] <spoilerhead> hi, i'v got a problem with my soundcard (snd_intel8x0) sound works fine in kernel 2.6.10-5-386, but doesnt work in 2.6.10-5.686 any ideas?
[12:53] <jamie_k> concept10: nop.
[12:54] <concept10> pr0ger, try to do apt-get clean and then reinstall
[12:54] <jamie_k> concept10: it's a subnotebook hp-compaq 4010
[12:54] <TokenBad> ok I am confused..trying to install a game onto my mounted drive..which has 9 gigs free..and it needs 3.6 gigs..and its telling me there isn't enough space
[12:54] <jamie_k> concept10: i didn't expect this enclosure to pack up
[12:55] <pr0ger> reinstall the linpng package?
[12:55] <pr0ger> libpng*
[12:56] <njan> I: Configuring required packages...
[12:56] <Seveas> ok does anyone know this: Can I let xscreensaver run any program I want as screensaver?
[12:56] <njan> hoary: line 160: dpkg_progress: command not found
[12:56] <concept10> spoilerhead, maybe that driver isnt compiled in that kernel, tload the 686 kernel and run "lsmod" and see if it is there
[12:56] <njan> ok.. debootstrap has just died on me with that..
[12:56] <spoilerhead> it is there
[12:56] <Seveas> I have this windows screensaver that I am addicted too and it runs flawlessly with wine
[12:56] <Seveas> but xscreensaver somehow won't run it...
[12:56] <concept10> pr0ger, yes reinstall
[12:56] <njan> I can't find *any* reference to dpkg_progress any aside two links on google which are logs of an identical error with no hint at a fix...
[12:56] <njan> ...anyone?
[12:56] <spoilerhead> concept10 the card is even listed in /proc/asound/cards
[12:56] <pr0ger> doesnt work
[12:57] <pr0ger> same error
[12:57] <paul555> is there a way to update firefox from 1.0.2 to 1.0.4
[12:57] <paul555> ?
[12:57] <phillambrechts> how can i change my card to use a static ip within the terminal? the computer im setting up is a server and i didn't install the GUI packages
[12:58] <netsurf> paul555 try just installing over top of it
[12:58] <xiaomai> paul555, if you're running hoary you already have 1.0.4, you just need to change the version string
[12:58] <TokenBad> anyone know what I am talking about?
[12:58] <xiaomai> there's a link to it on the ubuntu site
[12:59] <Seveas> xiaomai,paul555: Open firefox and in about:config set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4
[12:59] <paul555> well i put some repositories from ubuntu unofficial guide and now when i want to upgrade it wants to update firefox to 1.0.4 and gcc to 4.0 base?
[12:59] <paul555> is that safe?
[12:59] <concept10> pr0ger, I would try to purge the .deb and reinstall it.  dpkg --purge package
[12:59] <Seveas> NO
[12:59] <phillambrechts> Seveas: where can i learn what to change in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:59] <Seveas> phillambrechts, man interfaces
[12:59] <phillambrechts> to make my ip static
[01:00] <Seveas> (in the terminal)
[01:00] <phillambrechts> thank you :)
[01:00] <Seveas> example:
[01:00] <debugger> phillambrechts, look at the debian manuals.
[01:00] <Seveas> iface eth0 inet static
[01:00] <TokenBad> Seveas, you ever have that problem?
[01:00] <Seveas> address YOUR_ADDRESS_HERE
[01:00] <FoamY_is_away> um is there a good internet school that teaches linux?
[01:00] <Seveas> netmask YOUR_NM_HERE
[01:00] <Seveas> gateway YOUR_GW_HERE
[01:00] <debugger> phillambrechts, eg: start here http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html
[01:00] <Seveas> and done :)
[01:00] <Seveas> TokenBad, which..?
[01:01] <pr0ger> hmm
[01:01] <TokenBad> trying to install a game to my mounted drive
[01:01] <TokenBad> it has 9 gigs free
[01:01] <concept10> TokenBad, ive had that problem before, cant remember what i did to fix it, I think it was a chmod
[01:01] <TokenBad> and the game needs 3
[01:01] <Seveas> should be enough...
[01:01] <TokenBad> when try to install says there is not enough space
[01:01] <Seveas> hmm
[01:01] <pr0ger> same error :S
[01:01] <Fnoy> does anyone know if the ati drivers work good for linux
[01:01] <phillambrechts> Seveas: already learned it from man :)
[01:01] <Zuiden> alright i just intalled hoary and i rebooted the machine and i am getting a great screen resolutino of 6xxX4xx (like 680 by 440 or something liek that) i go to the gnome tools and thats the only option i have, i also go into a terminal and type set scr 800x 600 to make it at least managable before i set it up for 1400 x 1200
[01:01] <Zuiden> and nothing happens
[01:02] <concept10> pr0ger, what are you trying to install?
[01:02] <TokenBad> Zuiden, you got the drivers for your video card?
[01:02] <pr0ger> well nothing right now, But I cant install anything unless this is fixed
[01:02] <TokenBad> for linux?
[01:02] <phillambrechts> Seveas: to restart networking is sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[01:02] <Zuiden> i have an onboard video card
[01:02] <Zuiden> and no other distro has had trouble with it
[01:03] <zerokills> Zuiden, during the installation process, you are given options of all the resolutions you want, did you choose the ones you want?
[01:03] <Seveas> phillambrechts, yes
[01:03] <kpeterson> what is the code for booting ubuntu live with no GUI?
[01:03] <Zuiden> i didn't get that
[01:03] <Zuiden> nor did i get an option to set the root password
[01:03] <zerokills> hmm
[01:03] <phillambrechts> Seveas: now when i type in ifconfig my device doesn't show :o
[01:03] <phillambrechts> only lo
[01:03] <crappledev> Zuiden: you should reinstall then
[01:04] <Zuiden> lo = the most secure network connection ever
[01:04] <phillambrechts> i know why :P
[01:04] <paul555> does anyone installed gcc4.0 base?
[01:04] <concept10> Zuiden, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto?highlight=%28resolution%29
[01:04] <phillambrechts> nevermind, i dont
[01:05] <Zuiden> alright but when i still didn't get an option to set my root password
[01:05] <concept10> paul555, youre trying to install gcc 4.0
[01:05] <phillambrechts> Damn
[01:05] <paul555> that i need to if i do an upgrade
[01:05] <Seveas> phillambrechts, have you typde 'iface eth0 inet static' correctly?
[01:05] <Seveas> and does ifconfig -a show it?
[01:06] <concept10> paul555, huh?
[01:06] <phillambrechts> what does the -a command do?
[01:06] <phillambrechts> I am rebooting (yes, i know, bad idea)
[01:06] <Seveas> shows all available interfaces :)
[01:06] <Vjaz> shows all interfaces
[01:06] <pr0ger> grr oh well guess i can just install from sources :S
[01:06] <phillambrechts> but i'm gonna see if it works
[01:06] <phillambrechts> first time i've tried to setup a base install
[01:07] <paul555> well i put the repositories from ubuntu unofficial guide and now after the update in upgrade it needs to install gcc4.0 base
[01:07] <concept10> paul555, what needs to install gcc 4.0?
[01:07] <Seveas> paul555, ubuntuguide sucks
[01:07] <phillambrechts> lol, a reboot solved it
[01:07] <Seveas> big time..
[01:07] <Seveas> paul555: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[01:08] <kpeterson> is there a code i can use when i boot ubuntu live to prevent it from presenting a GUI and instead just use the command line?!
[01:08] <concept10> Seveas, add www. to your link
[01:08] <Seveas> 'single'
[01:08] <Seveas> concept10, that won't work :)
[01:09] <Seveas> www.paste.ubuntulinux.nl does not exist :)
[01:09] <concept10> what is it?
[01:09] <paul555> Seveas could u give a link?
[01:09] <phillambrechts> he just did...
[01:09] <Seveas> paul555, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[01:09] <phillambrechts> hit CTRL+CLICK on it
[01:09] <TokenBad> bah..why will this not install...i got enough space...
[01:09] <TokenBad> and 3.3 gigs free on my OS drive
[01:10] <concept10> Seveas, do you use xchat?
[01:10] <Seveas> yes
[01:10] <concept10> Seveas, I havent checked but are the repos you posted different from ubuntu guide?
[01:10] <pr0ger> hmm so no one has any other idea?
[01:11] <Seveas> concept10, a lot
[01:11] <concept10> pr0ger, you should specify what you are trying to install
[01:11] <Seveas> they don't include backports/marillat
[01:11] <Seveas> so they don't include breakage :)
[01:11] <pr0ger> Im not trying to i nstall anything, Im trying to fix this so i can install something when I want to
[01:11] <pr0ger> It wont let me install anything unless this is fixed
[01:12] <concept10> pr0ger, maybe im confused about your problem.  are you using synaptic or CLI apt-get?
[01:12] <Seveas> apt-get -f install libpng12-dev
[01:12] <pr0ger> cli apt-get
[01:12] <pr0ger> Seveas: I get the same error
[01:13] <Seveas> pr0ger, how about: apt-get remove libpng-devel
[01:13] <krmeljivi> i have a problem with installing fluxbox on my ubuntu. i've downloaded it, upackaged it (tar -zxvf.....), after that i entered the new dir and vrote ./configure. it vorked so far, but when i wrote make it said that there is no target or something what should i do?
[01:13] <Seveas> and then retry
[01:13] <pr0ger> anope
[01:13] <pr0ger> nope*
[01:13] <Seveas> krmeljivi, you should install it froim the repositories instead of manually compiling it...
[01:13] <pr0ger> I get the ubment dependicies thing
[01:13] <pr0ger> unmet*
[01:14] <Seveas> libpng-devel is some weird package that I don't even have available..
[01:14] <Seveas> where did you install it from?
[01:14] <TokenBad> ok found out why its not letting me install
[01:14] <pr0ger> eh it was needed by some program
[01:14] <pr0ger> the autoupdates thing
[01:14] <krmeljivi> who, me?
[01:14] <TokenBad> see have my 80 gig drive mounted to a dir on my OS drive
[01:15] <TokenBad> and it is only looking at the free space on that os drive
[01:15] <concept10> Seveas, are those the only repos you use?  no backports?
[01:15] <TokenBad> not the free space on my 80 gig
[01:15] <Seveas> concept10, indeed
[01:15] <TokenBad> is there a way around that?
[01:15] <pr0ger> says " libqt3-mt-dev: Depends: libpng12-0-dev"
[01:16] <pr0ger> when I try to do your remove libpng-devel
[01:16] <muttDC> hello :), i have problems installing desklet xmms-corner... i install it and then when i try to load it it sends an error saying that a sensor couldnt be found
[01:16] <Seveas> libqt3-mt-dev is also not an ubuntu package
[01:16] <muttDC> any idea?:(
[01:16] <Seveas> omg, you are not running breezy are you..?
[01:16] <pr0ger> I never install that manually
[01:16] <pr0ger> installed*
[01:16] <youngcoder> i ran the apt install kubuntu-desktop command and it told me that KDe was dependent on Konversation but that Konversation is uninstallable
[01:16] <pr0ger> wtf is breezy
[01:16] <uniq> seveas: libqt3-mt-dev is in main :)
[01:17] <Seveas> uniq, that is libqt3c102-mt-dev
[01:17] <Seveas> oh wait, only the binaries have the c102 postfix...
[01:17] <Seveas> pr0ger, you can safely remove -dev packages, they are only used when you manually compile things...
[01:17] <lamont__> pr0ger: breezy badger is the 5.10 release
[01:17] <lamont__> currently under development
[01:17] <pr0ger> oh ok
[01:18] <pr0ger> so how would I remove all dev packages then?
[01:18] <youngcoder> i ran the apt install kubuntu-desktop command and it told me that KDe was dependent on Konversation but that Konversation is uninstallable. can anyone help me?
[01:18] <ttyS0> "madplay: error while loading shared libraries: libid3tag.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" . i've already installed libid3tag but where libid3tag.so.0 has to locate?
[01:18] <uniq> youngcoder: can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://kubuntu.pastebin.com ?
[01:18] <Seveas> pr0ger, remove whatever gets in your way for what you want to do now :)
[01:18] <pr0ger> well I cant even install lets say gkrellm without that error stopping me
[01:19] <youngcoder> umm
[01:19] <Seveas> ttyS0, apt-get install libid3tag0 :)
[01:19] <crappledev>  /set auto_away off
[01:19] <concept10> Seveas, dependency hell in here today :)
[01:19] <ttyS0> Seveas, i think i corrupted apt-get's files :|
[01:20] <Seveas> ttyS0, ouch :|
[01:20] <ttyS0> hheh
[01:20] <Seveas> just for this package or in general?
[01:20] <pr0ger> damn apt-get :S
[01:20] <ttyS0> in general
[01:20] <Seveas> how did you do that?
[01:20] <crappledev> pr0ger: you know we all love apt
[01:20] <ttyS0> i'll try to restore it now :) don't know how
[01:21] <pr0ger> lol
[01:21] <pr0ger> I dont atm
[01:21] <Fnoy> with which program are you guys downloading movies music etc
[01:21] <crappledev> pr0ger: i remember the days...
[01:21] <concept10> Anyone using openoffice 2.0 beta succesfully yet?
[01:22] <zerokills> Fnoy, LimeWire is very good for media file sharing
[01:22] <pr0ger> giftd n giftcurs for the fe
[01:22] <Seveas> pr0ger, dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | grep -- -dev | awk '{print $1}' | xargs apt-get remove --purge
[01:22] <topyli> concept10: yes, it's getting better
[01:22] <Seveas> that'll uninstall all -dev packages
[01:22] <concept10> topyli, is it in the repos?
[01:23] <Seveas> wah crap
[01:23] <concept10> I see it
[01:23] <Seveas> pr0ger, wait
[01:23] <Seveas> do not do that :)
[01:23] <topyli> concept10: yes, search for openoffice.org2. but they're not very up to date
[01:23] <crappledev> Seveas: that has to be one of the longest *nix admin commands i have ever seen
[01:23] <pr0ger> lol
[01:23] <pr0ger> good thing I didnt do it :P
[01:24] <djs> it's a beauty isn't it
[01:24] <Seveas> pr0ger, dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | grep -- '-dev[^a-z] ' | awk '{print $1}' | xargs apt-get remove --purge
[01:24] <Seveas> this one does work :)
[01:24] <TokenBad> bah got gta for nothing since it will not install
[01:25] <concept10> topyli, im not installing it, it calls for gcc 4.0 and I dont want to mess with that right now
[01:25] <pr0ger> nope :S
[01:25] <furty> Is there someone who can help a stupid guy like me???
[01:26] <crappledev> furty: depends ;)
[01:26] <djs> furty, ask away - hopefully someone can
[01:26] <pr0ger> screw depends heh :S
[01:26] <topyli> concept10: it does? what would it do with gcc? :)
[01:26] <furty> because I did a big mistake
[01:26] <furty> I have on my computer ubuntu and windows XP
[01:27] <furty> and I installed Grub on the mbr!
[01:27] <Seveas> that's not a mistake
[01:27] <Seveas> grub can boot windows
[01:27] <furty> what can I do if I want to go on Windows??
[01:27] <Seveas> (does it on my machines too)
[01:27] <Seveas> furty, the installer should have made a windows entry in your boot menu
[01:27] <furty> no because the boot files of windows are missing
[01:27] <furty> yes
[01:27] <pr0ger> yeah I still get the try apt-get -f install without a package name etc...
[01:27] <pr0ger> and it says alien dependson some -dev package :S
[01:28] <Seveas> pr0ger, can you please paste your sources.list on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:28] <furty> but when I'm clicking on it there is error messages
[01:28] <crappledev> furty: and?
[01:28] <crappledev> furty: that's usually the right choice.
[01:28] <crappledev> furty: now i am thinking that you can't get back to XP?
[01:28] <pr0ger> yup
[01:28] <topyli> topyli: anyway, i'm using pavel's packages. he always has the latest builds: ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/
[01:28] <Seveas> which error exactly furty ?
[01:28] <Seveas> topyli, you're talking to yourself :p
[01:29] <jamie_k> anyone help me follow these instructions here? wiki.ubuntu.com/LocalNetInstall?
[01:29] <topyli> lol
[01:29] <furty> I don't remember exactly because my computer is always rebooting after
[01:29] <crappledev> ppc or i386 furty?
[01:29] <furty> but it's writing that some files are missing
[01:29] <ivan_qk> hello
[01:29] <furty> pentium IV
[01:29] <crappledev> rerun ybin or grub
[01:29] <crappledev> grub
[01:29] <ivan_qk> anybody speak spanish?
[01:29] <topyli> Seveas: well i was talking to concept10 but he's gone anyway =)
[01:30] <crappledev> see if that fixes it
[01:30] <Seveas> ivan_qk, #ubuntu-es
[01:30] <pr0ger> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/186
[01:30] <ivan_qk> thanks
[01:30] <Will__> Well, just got samba up and running on my new ubuntu system. I'm amazingly inpressed so far, and will be writing thankyou emails/donating monies as soon as possible
[01:30] <Seveas> pr0ger, that looks good
[01:31] <furty> I think you must know that I'm not so good with computers and I don't really want to manually config again grub
[01:31] <Seveas> can you paste the output of apt-get -f install
[01:31] <pr0ger> yep
[01:31] <Seveas> (again on the pastebin of course)
[01:31] <crappledev> Will__ , I am in the same boat. I have been hearing so much about ubuntu lately I had to give it a try
[01:31] <Seveas> furty, does windows start booting or do you get an error from grub?
[01:31] <pr0ger> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/187
[01:32] <crappledev> Will__ , coming from debian it's not really that different...just more up to date ;)
[01:32] <furty> error from windows
[01:32] <crappledev> furty, reboot with the XP cd and go to the recovery console
[01:32] <Seveas> pr0ger, have you tried apt-get remove --purge libpng-devel ..?
[01:32] <crappledev> furty, run fixmbr and fixboot
[01:32] <furty> you think I get a chance with this way??
[01:32] <Seveas> if so, I'd like to see the output of that too
[01:33] <pr0ger> yeah
[01:33] <pr0ger> k
[01:33] <Seveas> furty, yes, that will give you windows back
[01:33] <ttyS0> Seveas, it says, that latest version of libid3tag is already installed :0
[01:33] <crappledev> furty, then you can come back to ubuntu from the cd and fix Grub
[01:33] <ttyS0> *:)
[01:33] <pr0ger> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/188
[01:33] <furty> from the recovery console??
[01:33] <Seveas> furty, but then you  will have to re-install grub
[01:33] <crappledev> yes
[01:33] <zerokills> Fnoy, you trying out LimeWire?
[01:33] <furty> how can I reinstall grub
[01:33] <di2co> hi; i'm having a problem getting this USR Winmodem to dial. lspci shows 5610 56k FaxModem WinModem. I followed the directions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto but when i type sudo pon nothing happens.
[01:34] <Seveas> furty, that's quite difficult :(
[01:34] <furty> with ubuntu install cd??
[01:34] <Seveas> furty, no, only with the live CD
[01:34] <furty> really?
[01:34] <crappledev> Seveas, there is no 'rescue' mode in ubuntu?
[01:34] <Seveas> pr0ger, apt-get remove --purge libpng-devel libqt3-mt-dev
[01:34] <Seveas> and again place the output on the pastebin :)
[01:34] <Seveas> we have to tackle this one
[01:35] <Seveas> crappledev, i'm not 100% sure...
[01:35] <furty> what I will do after?
[01:35] <furty> with the live CD?
[01:35] <pr0ger> yeh this is after i installed kde heh
[01:35] <topyli> furty: boot from a rescue cd rom. mount your root partition. chroot. run gub-install :)
[01:35] <Seveas> furty, some abracadabra
[01:35] <pr0ger> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/189
[01:35] <Seveas> pr0ger, HOW did you install kde..?
[01:36] <thundrcleeze> My printer is spitting out two pages for every one printed.  Is there a setting that I missed?
[01:36] <pr0ger> eh :S
[01:36] <pr0ger> apt-get install kde?
[01:36] <Seveas> because this can go on forever
[01:36] <crappledev> furty, and as yaboot would say, blessing dev/hdX with holy penguin pee
[01:36] <Seveas> hmm, and that installed all the -dev files..?
[01:36] <pr0ger> I have no idea :\
[01:36] <furty> ok!?
[01:36] <Seveas> are you runningwarty perhaps?
[01:36] <crappledev> TokenBad , what is going on?
[01:37] <furty> I will try like that!!
[01:37] <furty> thank you
[01:37] <pr0ger> eh?
[01:37] <pr0ger> whichever one comes with shipit
[01:37] <airmikeyy> which wireless network card is compatible with linux
[01:38] <pr0ger> prism2 chipsets
[01:38] <Seveas> pr0ger, how long ago..?
[01:38] <djs> pr0ger, How many people on the CD cover?
[01:38] <pr0ger> 5
[01:38] <zooko> Greetings, people of #Ubuntu!  I cannot mount my cdrom, although I can boot the Hoary Live CD from it.
[01:38] <Seveas> yeah, that's hoary
[01:38] <djs> pr0ger, that's hoary :)
[01:38] <crappledev> gah!
[01:38] <pr0ger> ah ok thought so
[01:38] <ttyS0> weehaaa, madplay works :) just "sudo ln -s /usr/local/lib/libid3tag.so /lib/libid3tag.so.0"
[01:38] <ttyS0> :)
[01:38] <pr0ger> considering it says Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)
[01:38] <pr0ger> :P
[01:39] <zooko> When I try to mount it, I get only this in syslog: Jun 23 20:38:53 yumyum kernel: cdrom: open failed.
[01:39] <djs> pr0ger, lol
[01:39] <zooko> and only this on the cmdline: mount: No medium found
[01:39] <str> Hi all!
[01:39] <zooko> Oh, maybe this CD is broken.
[01:39] <str> any1 has already been able to intsall customizegoogle in firefox?
[01:39] <thechitowncubs> Seveas: i have another question, where can i add programs to the startup if i have only the base system installed
[01:39] <jamie_k> if no one helps me, i'm going to do myself in.
[01:39] <jamie_k> (joke)
[01:39] <pr0ger> i and it wont let me remove kde because i get the unmet dependicies of libqt3-mt-dev
[01:39] <ShadowRage> question
[01:39] <pr0ger> so it just keeps looping
[01:40] <ShadowRage> how do I use a custom cursor theme?
[01:40] <zooko> A-ha.  A different cd works.  Thanks. ;-)
[01:40] <Seveas> pr0ger, just follow the trail of -dev packages
[01:40] <crappledev> you think i would have better luck with limewire rpm with the alien install
[01:40] <Seveas> and try to remove them all in 1 command
[01:40] <pr0ger> hmm alright
[01:40] <crappledev> or the linux 'other'
[01:40] <Seveas> pr0ger, or:
[01:40] <jamie_k> zerokills: hey thanks!
[01:41] <Seveas> dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/packages/libpng*
[01:41] <zerokills> jamie_k, anytime
[01:41] <zooko> Hm.  But this CD works fine in Mac OS X...
[01:41] <Seveas> that means: forcefolly install that .deb file
[01:41] <Seveas> that will clear away the error
[01:41] <TokenBad> crappledev, I am trying to install gta on my system...I have over 9 gig free on my mounted drive but it says not enough space..and it only needs 3.6 gigs
[01:41] <crappledev> zerokills , guess you're not 'zero' anymore
[01:41] <Seveas> and you can start uninstalling KrapDE :)
[01:42] <zerokills> Seveas, hehe, KrapDE indeed
[01:42] <jamie_k> i KNOW someone around here is nice & clever enough to help me solve this horrible problem
[01:42] <crappledev> TokenBad, what partition?
[01:42] <crappledev> is the space really there or is it 'growable
[01:42] <Seveas> thechitowncubs, add them to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh if you want them to run on boot, add them to ~/.bashrc if you want them to run at login
[01:42] <TokenBad> its a fat32 partition
[01:42] <zerokills> crappledev, nope always been zerokills
[01:42] <jamie_k> zerokills: he means, you killed me
[01:43] <crappledev> zerokills , i was referencing that kicking of the stool ... ;)
[01:43] <jamie_k> oof
[01:43] <TokenBad> crappledev, my OS drive is only 6 gig
[01:43] <crappledev> jamie_k , no, we're on the same page
[01:43] <TokenBad> my mounted drive is 80 gig
[01:44] <TokenBad> when it trys to install its only registering the 3.3 gigs free on my OS drive
[01:44] <TokenBad> and not the 9 gigs on my mounted drive
[01:44] <pr0ger> lol this is horrible
[01:44] <pr0ger> Seveas: that doesnt work either
[01:44] <Seveas> hmm
[01:45] <TokenBad> any ideas?
[01:45] <crappledev> TokenBad , I'll have to look in to that. I have Fat32 larger >3
[01:45] <crappledev> and no issues
[01:45] <Seveas> pr0ger, mind if y /msg you in private?
[01:45] <TokenBad> my fat32 is 9 gigs free
[01:45] <pr0ger> yeah go ahead
[01:45] <TokenBad> and 80 gig total
[01:45] <ShadowRage> man, you all have a lot of fat :(
[01:46] <ShadowRage> ummm
[01:46] <ShadowRage> how do I change my icon theme in ubuntu under gnome?
[01:46] <zerokills> system> preferences> theme
[01:46] <zerokills> theme details
[01:46] <ShadowRage> err
[01:46] <ShadowRage> sorry
[01:46] <ShadowRage> not icon
[01:46] <ShadowRage> mouse cursor
[01:47] <zerokills> dono
[01:47] <StR> any1 has already been able to intsall customizegoogle in firefox?
[01:47] <zerokills> system> preferences> mouse
[01:47] <zerokills> click on the Cursors tab
[01:47] <zerokills> doesnt give very many options tho
[01:48] <Seveas> you can do it with gcursor
[01:48] <_raw_> Hi, I am new to ubuntu..I never used suspend feature on linux u can probably guide me
[01:49] <di2co> if ubuntu detects the winmodem, it should work right?
[01:49] <zerokills> jamie_k, what are you having problems with again? net-install? whats the link to that?
[01:49] <_raw_> I want to suspend_2_ram...by the way it is *not* a laptop
[01:49] <jamie_k> zerokills: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocalNetInstall
[01:49] <jamie_k> zerokills:  is what i'm following now
[01:50] <_raw_> can I do suspend_to_ram on desktop? with acpi?
[01:50] <zerokills> k
[01:50] <tekk> Can someone help me please?
[01:51] <Klementas> ask your question tekk
[01:51] <nalioth> tekk, i missed your question
[01:52] <tekk> Alright.... im trying to install a file (doom3_installer.sh) and i keep on getting this error.
[01:52] <tekk> /home/tekk/.setup8217: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:52] <Klementas> tekk: do you have gtk1 installed?
[01:52] <nalioth> Gfault: can't be done easily
[01:53] <nalioth> Gfault: you need the 'install' cd
[01:53] <tekk> I'm not sure, i guess it'll be in synaptic?
[01:53] <Klementas> tekk: it should be, yes
[01:53] <roger> tekk, apt-get install libgtk1.2
[01:53] <jjj> Newbie needs to change permissions on a file I accidentally created from root terminal
[01:53] <Klementas> tekk: what roger said
[01:55] <roger> jjj, you probably just need to change the owner of the file - "sudo chown user:user filename"
[01:55] <thechitowncubs> How can I add something to my init.d
[01:55] <dav1> hello all
[01:55] <thechitowncubs> what i did was:
[01:55] <tekk> Downloading now....should it work once this is done?
[01:55] <jjj> OK, will try it, thanks
[01:55] <thechitowncubs> sudo nano /etc/init.d/kaid
[01:55] <TokenBad> well crappledev if you find out let me know..cause its driving me nuts
[01:55] <thechitowncubs> sudo chmod +x kaid
[01:55] <thechitowncubs> sudo chmod +x ...kaid
[01:55] <Klementas> tekk: it should
[01:55] <dav1> i'm looking for some help with automatically mounting usb devices
[01:55] <Seveas> thechitowncubs, update-rc.d kaid defaults
[01:55] <Klementas> tekk: unless some other library is missing
[01:56] <tekk> Alright, thanks.
[01:57] <tekk> Installing.....hope it works. :(
[01:57] <dav1> anyone else had any problems with usb keys in Ubuntu?
[01:58] <PoopinClumpin> mine seems to work fine
[01:59] <roger> dav1, what happens if you plug it in? anything?
[01:59] <dav1> nothing at all
[01:59] <kpeterson> I am having a very bizarre problem.  I had ubuntu running fine, but then I added another serial ata hard drive, and now there is a kernal panic when i try to boot.  I determined that the problem lies in that my main harddrive (with Ubuntu) becomes sdb instead of sda when the new drive is added.  Unfortunately, I cannot configure which sata drive for my mobo to boot from first, so if i change the plugs so that ubuntu is on sda, then it
[01:59] <kpeterson> will boot the wrong drive. I need to change my configurations so that when grub boots from the harddrive with ubuntu (sdb) it does not look for sda partitions where the boot stuff used to be located.  I tried editing fstab but that didn't help. Sorry this is so confusing...can anyone help?
[01:59] <Klementas> oops, time to reboot
[01:59] <dav1> i'm able to mount it using the mount command though
[01:59] <roger> plug it in and type "dmesg" see if it says it found a new USB device?
[01:59] <roger> ah ok
[02:00] <roger> you could just create an entry for it in /etc/fstab to auto mount it
[02:00] <dav1> i've tried that...
[02:00] <dav1> perhaps I got the syntax wrong?
[02:00] <newbie_linux> Hi, is anyone firmiliar with x11vnc???
[02:00] <roger> what does that line of fstab look like?
[02:01] <tekk> Alright...another question...
[02:01] <roger> under options you'll need something like "rw,user,auto"
[02:01] <socomm> !ask
[02:01] <ubotu> I don't know, socomm
[02:02] <newbie_linux> Hi, is anyone here firmiliar with x11vnc???
[02:02] <tekk> How do i mount another cd in the middle of installation?
[02:02] <Seveas> kpeterson, you will need to re-run grub-install
[02:02] <socomm> Just ask.
[02:02] <furty> is there a #ubuntu french channel?
[02:02] <dav1>  /dev/sda	/media/usbdisk	vfat 	defaults 	0	0
[02:02] <Seveas> furty, #ubuntu-fr
[02:02] <dav1> ah
[02:02] <kpeterson> Seveas How do I do that?
[02:03] <Seveas> kpeterson, boot from a live cd, make a chroot dir, mount your drives and proc there, chroot into the installed system, run grub-install '(hd0)'
[02:03] <squinn> How do I downgrade a package?
[02:03] <tekk> Do i simply eject and enter a new cd in the drive?
[02:03] <squinn> I heard that a Breezy fix was to downgrade one package with supposedly more benefits than harms
[02:03] <Seveas> squinn, aptitude install package=version
[02:03] <roger> dav1, i think you need to specify a partition as well so /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/sda
[02:03] <squinn> ah okay thanks
[02:03] <dav1> ooh
[02:03] <dav1> let me try it that way
[02:04] <snowseal> i cant eject my cdrom
[02:04] <squinn> Question 2.
[02:04] <squinn> How do I see the web repository for hoary?
[02:04] <Seveas> snowseal, probably it's still mounted then...
[02:04] <squinn> Never mind, Googled.
[02:04] <Seveas> squinn: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[02:04] <roger> snowseal, try typing 'eject' in a terminal
[02:04] <Seveas> or did you mean packages.ubuntu.com :)
[02:04] <kpeterson> Seveas that brings up another problem I have...do you know how to boot Ubuntu live in text only mode?
[02:05] <kpeterson> Seveas with no GUI?
[02:05] <snowseal> hmm the. i closed bk3.
[02:05] <dav1> thanks a bunch
[02:05] <dav1> that did it :-D
[02:05] <squinn> pkgs.ubuntu, thanks Dennis
[02:05] <snowseal> now its ok.
[02:05] <Seveas> kpeterson, probably with 'single' as boot parameter
[02:05] <roger> good stuff :)
[02:05] <socomm> kpeterson: Try the "Safe mode".
[02:05] <socomm> That would boot you into single user mode.
[02:06] <roger> kpeterson, i think appending a '1' to the end of your kernel options in grub will put you into runlevel 1 (most services but no X)
[02:07] <kpeterson> Seveas I'm sorry I'm not very experienced with Linux...when you say " make a chroot dir, mount your drives and proc there, chroot into the installed system,"
[02:07] <roger> kpeterson, might be different for the livecd though
[02:07] <kpeterson> Seveas I'm not sure what all that means...
[02:07] <Seveas> kpeterson, i figured that :)
[02:07] <CiAnCi10> is anyone firmiliar with x11vnc??
[02:08] <Seveas> kpeterson, I am making a manual for it, but that's not yet finished
[02:08] <CiAnCi10> is anyone firmiliar with x11vnc??
[02:09] <roger> CiAnCi10, not really, but what's up? Gnome has a built in VNC server if that's any good?
[02:09] <KillerSmurf> how do you add xfce to the session selection of X?
[02:09] <CiAnCi10> how can i make x11vnc so that it is on 24/7 and when a client disconnects it doesn't shutdown?
[02:09] <Seveas> KillerSmurf, sudo aptitude install xfce4
[02:10] <kpeterson> Seveas well, i can try to figure it out, any clues before I do so?
[02:10] <socomm> Wouldn't synaptic be better suited for neophytes?
[02:11] <KillerSmurf> Seveas thanks again
[02:11] <Seveas> kpeterson, use google
[02:11] <Seveas> search for grub+recovery+chroot+proc
[02:11] <kpeterson> Seveas allright, thanks for your help
[02:12] <gallonegro_> where do xmms skins go
[02:12] <Seveas> ~/.xmms/Skins
[02:12] <zyth> aww
[02:12] <zyth> Windows Update won't run in Wine for me w/o a MS XML update that won't install
[02:13] <dooglus> zyth, wean yourself off satan's tit
[02:13] <zyth> dooglus, I consider it more blasphemy of the highest order :D
[02:13] <dooglus> zyth: you've installed linux.  why on earth would you want to emulate windows update in linux?
[02:13] <zyth> dooglus, see, that's exactly it.
[02:13] <zyth> just because it's absurd.
[02:14] <roger> don't want wine catching viruses or anything
[02:14] <dooglus> zyth: you have turned to the light side.  leave childish ways behind you.
[02:15] <socomm> WINE Is Not  an Emulator.
[02:15] <thechitowncubs> Seveas: sudo: unable to execute /etc/init.d/kaid: No such file or directory
[02:16] <dooglus> socomm: it's close enough to being an emulator that most people can't tell the difference.  maybe if it was an emulator it would work better.  anyway, the point is... "why use it?"
[02:16] <Gfault> nalioth_wrkn, how install live-cd on HD ?
[02:17] <dooglus> Gfault: somewhat amazingly, the live-cd isn't installable!  if you want to install, you have to download another 600Mb of 'install disk'!
[02:17] <pr0ger> wow
[02:17] <pr0ger> forgot I was on irc
[02:17] <Gfault> dooglus, thanks
[02:17] <pr0ger> guess thats what happens when you use screen ;P
[02:17] <dooglus> Gfault: really?  "thanks" isn't how I reacted when I learned about that little snippet...
[02:17] <jjj> Is there a bash coomand to go back one directory from the directory you're currently in? 'Cause I'm about ten folders deep and I don't want to retype all of them over just to go back up one directory.
[02:18] <zyth> jjj, yeah cd ..
[02:18] <pr0ger> cd ..
[02:18] <dooglus> jjj: "cd -" will take you to the place you were at last
[02:18] <jjj> Ah! Thanks
[02:18] <dooglus> jjj: "cd .." will go up one
[02:18] <Gfault> dooglus, little snippet ?
[02:19] <dooglus> Gfault: the "you've downloaded 600Mb of stuff to see if you like ubuntu, now, if you like it, download ANOTHER 600mb of stuff" snippet.
[02:19] <kpeterson> Seveas, quick question after some searching...can i just run /sbin/grub and do something within there to fix my problem?
[02:19] <Gfault> dooglus, ok
[02:19] <roger> thechitowncubs, do you just want to execute some command on bootup or do you actually want to create a new service?
[02:20] <thechitowncubs> I want to add a command on bootup and i want to get my init script working
[02:20] <bwlang> dooglus: hmm - that would be pretty cool to use the live cd as a install source - then you just just dl a minimal installer image.
[02:21] <squinn> I'm confused.
[02:21] <squinn> I'm having a problem in Breezy, but I found a bugzilla fix.
[02:21] <squinn> To downgrade this one package, libglib2.0.
[02:22] <squinn> But if I "Force Version ->" or aptitude install, i lose all these packages
[02:22] <Burgundavia> squinn, the best thing to do with packaging issues is to wait
[02:22] <Firetech> dooglus: the devs are working on a live cd installer
[02:22] <Burgundavia> the next version is likely to sort it out
[02:22] <tiglionabbit> I have a live/install dvd
[02:22] <tiglionabbit> bwahaha
[02:22] <squinn> I'd like to be able to add my email account to Evolution though, Burgundavia
[02:23] <Firetech> There will still be a install cd, but also an easy to use live installer...
[02:23] <thechitowncubs> roger: you get that?
[02:23] <Burgundavia> squinn, email is vastly over rated
[02:23] <squinn> hah
[02:24] <roger> thechitowncubs, yeah... so if you try to execute the init script it says file not found?
[02:25] <Firetech> zerokills: steal mine, it has only been used to burn like 2 CDs :P
[02:25] <thechitowncubs> roger: ya
[02:25] <roger> thechitowncubs, the file definitely exists and has readable permissions?
[02:25] <zerokills> hehe
[02:25] <thechitowncubs> yep
[02:25] <thechitowncubs> i've never added an init script before
[02:25] <thechitowncubs> is there something i could read
[02:26] <roger> thechitowncubs, is the first line #!/bin/sh   or link to some other shell?
[02:26] <mon> Hi. I've just moved my /usr to another partition & everything seems to work exactly as before making the move, except for sound
[02:26] <mon> before I could hear soun perfectly in my hoary
[02:26] <zerokills> jamie_k, im reading over that page, im still kinda new to linux so im not familiar with everything. what are you having trouble with?
[02:26] <mon> but now I can't even load the sound volume applet
[02:26] <roger> thechitowncubs, google is probably best bet for that
[02:26] <TokenBad> anyone here use cedega and installed GTA?
[02:27] <jamie_k> zerokills: i progressed a stage now, it's rsynch-ing
[02:27] <socomm> I play GTA on dosbox
[02:27] <jamie_k> zerokills: i'm going to write this up afterwards, if i manage it, because none of those documents are right
[02:28] <mon> my problem is that when accesing the multimedia system config in gnome the sound or video doesnt detect alsa or esd or anything
[02:28] <xav> hi all! is breezy usable ?
[02:28] <Burgundavia> xav, not really
[02:28] <xav> when should it be ?
[02:28] <Burgundavia> xav, it installs and might run
[02:28] <Burgundavia> xav, October 13?
[02:28] <mon> how can I reconfigure sound?
[02:28] <socomm> xav: Read the breezy FAQ.
[02:28] <xav> i mean for testing purposes
[02:28] <zerokills> jamie_k, yea you should do that
[02:29] <jjj> Does anyone know of a repository for a .deb file to install ndiswrapper-1.2? Synaptic only has 1.1. 'Cause I've spent two days trying to do it manually.
[02:29] <squinn> Burgundavia, filed a bug upstream
[02:29] <Burgundavia> xav, preview release is pretty stabl
[02:29] <zzzsleepy> mon, see ubuntu guide for information on sound fix in gnome
[02:29] <Jim2> having a very confusing time with the install version of this distro
[02:29] <roger> anyone know if gtk 2.7 is getting put in breezy?
[02:29] <Burgundavia> xav, it gets more stable all the time
[02:29] <Burgundavia> roger, it might not make gnome. If it doesn't make gnome 2.12, it doesn't make breezy
[02:29] <thechitowncubs> Does someone care to explain init scripts to me and how to add remove them at startup?
[02:29] <xav> okay, so i can give it try without worrying to much
[02:30] <Burgundavia> xav, yes, but please don't come whining here if it break and you end up over your head
[02:30] <zzzsleepy> thechitowncubs, install rcconf and make your life easier ;)
[02:30] <roger> Burgundavia, yeah, thought the reason for doubt over making 2.12 was due to lack of testing though - and breezy seems good chance to get some testing
[02:30] <Davey> jjj: try using the "alien" command on an rpm?
[02:30] <Burgundavia> roger, breezy releases shortly after gnome does
[02:30] <cartel_> shortly?
[02:30] <jjj> I don't know of any ndiswrapper-1.2 rpms either :(
[02:30] <xav> burgundavia, okay thx u
[02:31] <Jim2> Have multiple distros on two hard drives as well as Win2k.. Even if I create partitions for ubuntu the application informs me that it apparently will format all of the existing partitions on the drive as well
[02:31] <roger> Burgundavia, yeah...?
[02:31] <Burgundavia> roger, breezy releases october 13, gnome in sept sometime
[02:31] <thechitowncubs> rcconf doesn't let me modify them
[02:31] <Burgundavia> roger, the schedules are deliberatly synced
[02:32] <roger> Burgundavia, so? i was asking whether gtk2.7 was going to be put in breezy? :)
[02:32] <Juhaz> Jim2, use the "manually edit" option
[02:32] <Burgundavia> roger, if it makes gnome 2.12 it will, I seriously doubt if it will make breezy if it doesn't
[02:33] <lsuactiafner> heh
[02:33] <Jim2> manually edit?
[02:33] <lsuactiafner> ok
[02:33] <lsuactiafner> writing a dvd, basically cloninanother dvd.. how do i do that?
[02:34] <DeFi> how do i set the time from the command line in hoary??
[02:34] <lsuactiafner> date -s 18:00
[02:34] <lsuactiafner> Fri Jun 24 02:34:52 SAST 2005
[02:34] <Juhaz> Jim2, it's kind of hard to miss if you've actually used the installer...
[02:34] <socomm> DeFi: ntpdate
[02:34] <lsuactiafner> so 02:34 might be a better quess..
[02:34] <lsuactiafner> ntpdate is also nice
[02:34] <Styx> Hi, has anyone tried installing Ubuntu on a Mac Mini??
[02:35] <Burgundavia> Styx, people have succesfully installed Debian, so I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work
[02:35] <socomm> Styx: Why don't you try and let us know how it goes.
[02:36] <gorm> i have a problem with mplayer under ubuntu. is this the right chanel ?
[02:36] <socomm> Just ask.
[02:36] <Jim2> ok I went through and used the partitioner to create 3 partitions. One for / one for /home and one for Swap. The installer still presented me with a list of all the aprtitons on the the drive and indicted that it was about to format them and asked for a YES or NO. I also created the partitions using Partition Magic 8 with the same result
[02:37] <Styx> Burgundavia: OK, I was just wondering how well supported the hardware inside the Mac Mini was, because it's not as if you can upgrade it :)
[02:38] <gorm> i have installed the freshest ubuntu and installed mplayer but though the plugin is taken into account by firefox, it never displays any video nor plays anysound.
[02:38] <Burgundavia> Styx, the wireless doesn't work, but that is no surprise
[02:38] <Burgundavia> http://www.sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/
[02:38] <mon> Hi again
[02:39] <zerokills> hola
[02:39] <Styx> Burgundavia: Thanks
[02:39] <Burgundavia> Styx, np
[02:39] <mon> I've done the process described in the ubuntu guide & I have no sound
[02:39] <mon> :(
[02:39] <zzzsleepy> mon, no sound where?
[02:39] <zzzsleepy> mon, did you reboot?
[02:39] <roger> gorm, so you've installed mplayer-plugin right?
[02:40] <gorm> roger : yes i did
[02:40] <mon> yes
[02:40] <mon> let me explain the problem
[02:40] <zzzsleepy> mon, ok
[02:40] <roger> gorm, and about:plugins in firefox shows it but it doesn't actually work? ;\
[02:40] <mon> I have set a separate partition for /ust
[02:40] <mon> I've copied my /usr to that partition
 ok I went through and used the partitioner to create 3 partitions. One for / one for /home and one for Swap. The installer still presented me with a list of all the aprtitons on the the drive and indicted that it was about to format them and asked for a YES or NO. I also created the partitions using Partition Magic 8 with the same result
[02:41] <mon> & now everything seem to work ok
[02:41] <mon> except sound & splashy
[02:41] <mon> splashy has a known bug that doesn't work with a separate /usr partition
[02:41] <gorm> for instance, it buffers, but then i only get a black screen
[02:41] <mon> so that's ok
[02:42] <mon> but before moving /usr & had perfect sound in gnome
[02:42] <mon> sorry for my english
[02:42] <Juhaz> Jim2, http://www.cc.puv.fi/~e0000274/part13.png
[02:42] <roger> gorm, ah right... this will sound weird but try right clicking on the display, sometimes the overlay gets messed up
[02:42] <gorm> i feel desperate with linux, cause i hadthe same problem wiht mandrake 10.1 and 9 as well
[02:42] <roger> gorm, does the sound play? or does it just not work at all?
[02:42] <Juhaz> Jim2, the manual part of partition looks something like that in the end, and sure doesn't tell anything about formatting, aside from showing the little ascii faces which tell what is going to be done with each partition in the list
[02:42] <gorm> not at all !
[02:43] <zerokills> on board sound device?
[02:43] <gorm> yes
[02:44] <Juhaz> Jim2, you are installing hoary, right?
[02:44] <Jim2> Juhaz: Yes I believe it was after that screen that I was presented with the format screen
[02:44] <Jim2> Horary?
[02:45] <zzzsleepy> Jim2, "Ubuntu 5.04 (The Hoary Hedgehog release) "
[02:45] <mon> any ideas before I assume I have to reinstall everything?
[02:45] <Jim2> Dont know what version it is. I downloaded the ISO off the web site last week or this week
[02:45] <zzzsleepy> mon, you might try posting to the ubuntu forums with this issue if you don't see it resolved here.
[02:45] <zerokills> gorm, get a sound card, my onboard sound devices dont work either, i had to get a sound card
[02:46] <zzzsleepy> gorm, and disable your onboard sound in BIOS when you have a new sound card installed
[02:46] <Juhaz> Jim2, I see, I don't remember for sure what's presented after that, but I assume it would refer to whatever partitions you just set up, not anything else, because it doesn't format anything else
[02:46] <mon> I think tomorrow morning I'll reinstall everything
[02:46] <gorm> okay, that i could quite easily try, but however, i suspect the problem comes from something else : other sound applications work fine.
[02:47] <zerokills> gorm, so you do get sound from some applications?
[02:47] <gorm> yes i do.
[02:47] <spoilerhead> probably a esd problem?
[02:47] <zzzsleepy> Is using ubuntu on a Mac easier than on a PC? Without trying to get all the many different hardware components all to work ?
[02:47] <HrdwrBoB> zzzsleepy: not really
[02:47] <zerokills> gorm, ok, dont get a sound card... that's something to do with your setup
[02:48] <zzzsleepy> HrdwrBoB, darn, because of proprietary hdwre right?
[02:48] <HrdwrBoB> zzzsleepy: if you have a PC with all supported hardware, it'll work perfectly
[02:48] <nalioth> zzzsleepy: works right out of the box on PPC (unless you have airport extreme)
[02:48] <gorm> yes. i am afraid it is more a probleme with the mplayer installation.
[02:48] <zzzsleepy> HrdwrBoB, & nalioth rhx
[02:48] <HrdwrBoB> zzzsleepy: mac gives you some limitations due to arch
[02:48] <nalioth> zzzsleepy: thats why my new mac is still runnin osx (linux has no APX support...yet)
[02:49] <zzzsleepy> HrdwrBoB, limitations but advantages as well because of a smaller hardware pool?
[02:49] <zerokills> gorm, i personally only use VLC for all of my media needs.. i have to pkill esd every now and then for some movies to work, but it works great
[02:49] <nalioth> zzzsleepy: the smaller hardware pool is great
[02:49] <HrdwrBoB> not really, if you have a PC that's well supported, you're probably better off than a mac
[02:50] <HrdwrBoB> it just means that you know the hardware (aside from airport extreme) will work without thinking about it
[02:50] <nalioth> zzzsleepy: only the airport extreme is non-supported (thanks, broadcom!)
[02:50] <gorm> 0Kills, sorry : what is VLC ? I am fully ready to get rid of esd but how ?
[02:50] <Juhaz> Jim2, just read the help, and they list the meaning of the different smileys and other tokens as for what's going to be formatted and what isn't, etc.
[02:50] <zzzsleepy> alright, thanks guys :)
[02:50] <zerokills> gorm, in terminal type sudo apt-get install vlc
[02:51] <zerokills> gorm, that will install VLC for you, you can open VLC from the applications> sound and video menu.  to kill esd, type pkill esd in the terminal
[02:52] <zerokills> gorm, to turn it back on just type esd in the terminal
[02:52] <zzzsleepy> I hate esd
[02:52] <zerokills> me too
[02:52] <zzzsleepy> thanks to the ubuntuguide, I removed it forever! (queue laughter)
[02:53] <gorm> ok, it is now downloading, i'll try it as soon as its done and come back to you. thanks !
[02:53] <zerokills> np, good luck
[02:56] <msumu_piti_gnou> it s pistons baby
[02:57] <msumu_piti_gnou> pray for the pistons y all
[02:57] <Quest-Master> haha
[02:59] <Jim2> Juhaz: Ok will give that a shot. All the other distros I have installed in the past made it perfectly clear which partitions were going to be formatted. I give it a shot
[03:05] <muttDC> question: is there a plugion for gift that allows support with ares??
[03:07] <gorm> ok zerokills ! you are a guru !!! it works perfectly well. many thanks !!!
[03:08] <zerokills> gorm, hehe, glad i could help
[03:08] <idge> hello everyone, I am new to Linux and I need help making a boot disk using dd
[03:08] <idge> i am trying to make the file "smb.bin" into a bootable 3.5" floppy
[03:09] <Fnoy> how do i open rar files
[03:09] <idge> can anyone educate me?
[03:11] <Jim2> yure: you there?
[03:11] <Jim2> Juhaz:
[03:12] <spongebob_square> bleh
[03:12] <spongebob_square>  /nick spongebob_squared_shitless
[03:12] <lsuactiafner> wrong window..
[03:12] <Xenguy> idge: use 'rawrite' from DOS, or 'dd' from linux (IIUC)
[03:13] <lsuactiafner> dd if=image.img of=/dev/fd0
[03:13] <idge> Xenguy: i am trying using the command "dd if=smb.bin of=/dev/fd0"
[03:13] <lsuactiafner> hmmm
[03:13] <idge> it keeps saying "No such file or directory"
[03:13] <msumu_piti_gnou> zerokills: hear you are some kinda guru ; please pray for detroit
[03:13] <roger> idge, try "dd if=smb.bin of=/dev/fd0 bs=512"
[03:13] <lsuactiafner> ls -lh smb.bin
[03:14] <Jim2> Well no futher ahead with Ubuntu
[03:14] <idge> ok will do...brb
[03:14] <zerokills> msumu_piti_gnou, lol
[03:14] <lsuactiafner> i dont think smb.bin exists
[03:14] <idge> roger: still says "No such file or directory"
[03:15] <idge> smb.bin is on the Hoary install cd
[03:15] <lsuactiafner> yes there file.. it aint there..
[03:15] <pete_> guys: I just got an archos Gmini 200xs. when I plug it into an intel ubuntu machine it mounts on the desktop, but on my G4 powerbook I see nothing
[03:15] <idge> i have copied that fild onto the Desktop
[03:15] <idge> file that is
[03:15] <pete_> I can see that the device is registered in 'devices'
[03:15] <pete_> do I need to manually edit the fstab?
[03:16] <roger> idge, so try "dd if=~/Desktop/smb.bin of=/dev/fd0 bs=512"
[03:16] <Xenguy> idge: I agree with lsuactiafner - your source file path seems wrong
[03:16] <pete_> both installations were exactly the same.
[03:16] <idge> Xenguy:  really?...whoa that is wierd
[03:17] <orlando> hi, synaptic says i have linux-386 installed, how do i switch to 686
[03:17] <orlando> i have a pentium 3
[03:17] <lsuactiafner> updatedb ; locate smb.bin
[03:17] <lsuactiafner> or
[03:17] <lsuactiafner> just if=/cdrom/smb.bin or whereever the original smb.bin is
[03:17] <Xenguy> idge: use 'ls -d' to confirm the path; then 'dd' etc. should work :-)
[03:17] <lsuactiafner> i'm getting icecream
[03:18] <lsuactiafner> and i'm also high so dont do anythin i say
[03:18] <idge> Xenguy: just type "ls -d"?
[03:18] <roger> idge, dd if=~/Desktop/smb.bin of=/dev/fd0 bs=512
[03:18] <roger> idge, that should work if the file is on your desktop
[03:18] <lsuactiafner> roger : good idea
[03:18] <Xenguy> idge: ls -d <path/to/filename>
[03:18] <lsuactiafner> heh
[03:18] <idge> Xenguy: Ah...i see
[03:18] <lsuactiafner> wonder why i didnt type that
[03:19] <Xenguy> idge: er, ls -d path/to/filename
[03:19] <lsuactiafner> also though about it
[03:19] <lsuactiafner> but i need more icecream
[03:19] <idge> Xenguy: ok cool
[03:19] <chris__> Wow, I love ubuntu already, I just downloaded and installed it, actually worked with my videocard/monitor unlike debian did upon install
[03:19] <Xenguy> lsuactiafner: hey, I need some of that stuff :P
[03:19] <lsuactiafner> i'm goin to the fridge now and getting icecream
[03:19] <Xenguy> chris__: yeah, it's kinda automagic for me to :-)
[03:19] <orlando> how do i switch my kernel to 686 instead of the 386 currently installed? i have a p3
[03:21] <idge> Xenguy: i guess i am stupid becuse it is still saying no file or directory
[03:21] <Davey> orlando: apt-get install linux-image-2.6.10-5-686
[03:21] <lsuactiafner> orlando : you multiply it by 2 and subtract 86
[03:21] <benja> my Hoary mounts USB pen, then when i remount it it dosent appear...how can i fox this ?
[03:21] <lsuactiafner> benja : pull in and out
[03:21] <lsuactiafner> pull out and in
[03:22] <Xenguy> idge: that just tells you the file isn't where you're looking :-)  Try (as someone suggested) -> updatedb && locate filename.bin
[03:22] <ttyS0> am...stupid question...but......how to change system charset from UTF-8 to CP1251 ?
[03:22] <roger> idge, dd if=~/Desktop/smb.bin of=/dev/fd0 bs=512    ?!?!
[03:22] <chris__> Can anyone give me a step by step guide to getting my windows partitions to be accessable in linux please?  Thank yo9u
[03:22] <chris__> Thank You.*
[03:22] <Xenguy> idge: or what roger said ;-)
[03:22] <orlando> well i installed it in synaptic
[03:22] <orlando> the 686 kernel
[03:23] <orlando> will ubuntu automatically use that now?
[03:23] <lsuactiafner> why aint 2.6.12 not writin to nfts?
[03:23] <benja> lsuactiafner, dosent work :(
[03:23] <lsuactiafner> used to work?
[03:23] <Xenguy> chris__: are your d0ze filesystems FAT32 or NTFS ?
[03:23] <Jim2> I am trying to understand the built in formatter but am not having very much luck.. just getting more frustrated
[03:23] <lsuactiafner> benja : i have same problem, put pen in diff slot
[03:23] <taomaster> is there an easy was to install java in this o/s?
[03:23] <lsuactiafner> and also type sync as root before you put it in
[03:23] <lsuactiafner> somwhow seems to help
[03:24] <idge> roger: when you have the "~" in there...what does that mean?
[03:24] <chris__> My windows file systems are NTFS
[03:24] <Xenguy> !java
[03:24] <ubotu> somebody said java was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[03:24] <idge> roger: tried but still no work
[03:24] <chris__> hda1 and hdb1
[03:24] <roger> idge, ~ is an easy way of saying 'my home directory' basically
[03:24] <lsuactiafner> idge : go make yourself coffee, when you get back you will know whats up
[03:25] <roger> idge, is the file on your desktop? and it's definitely called smb.bin?
[03:25] <taomaster> thanks
[03:25] <lsuactiafner> really trust me on ir
[03:25] <idge> roger: yes
[03:25] <benja> lsuactiafner, dosent work :(
[03:25] <Xenguy> idge: P.S. 'desktop' is a windowism I prefer to avoid :-)
[03:25] <idge> i see it right now and can look at its properties
[03:25] <chris__> :-P Sorry I'm a newbie, I just started trying out the free distrobutions and this one seems to take to my system the best so far
[03:25] <idge> Xenguy: i am thinking you are right!
[03:25] <squinn> chris__, good choice.
[03:25] <roger> idge, type "ls -l ~/Desktop/smb*", what's the output?
[03:26] <idge> roger: ok hold on
[03:26] <squinn> chris__, no worries..this is a newbie-friendly zone
[03:26] <Xenguy> chris__: NTFS can be 'mounted' by linux, but only 'read-only'...
[03:26] <chris__> Yeah, I just need it for listening to music really :-X
[03:26] <lsuactiafner> yeh how do i write to ntfs with 2.6.12
[03:26] <Xenguy> chris__: whereas 'FAT32' filesystems can be mounted by linux read/write
[03:26] <lsuactiafner> 2.4.26 still wrote to ntfs
[03:26] <^thehatsrule^> no....
[03:26] <taomaster> use partiton magic
[03:26] <Xenguy> lsuactiafner: no
[03:27] <taomaster> in windows
[03:27] <^thehatsrule^> use captive-ntfs
[03:27] <chris__> I made a FAT32 partition called 'shared' when I partitioned this
[03:27] <idge> roger: what do i put in place of the "~"?
[03:27] <Xenguy> ^thehatsrule^: captive-ntfs is still very alpha AFAIK
[03:27] <lsuactiafner> but i want to write to it
[03:27] <orlando> i installed kernel for 686 processors, i have the 386 currently installed. how do i edit grub or whatever to add the 686?
[03:27] <lsuactiafner> i dont care if i break things
[03:27] <Xenguy> idge: /home/youruserid
[03:27] <roger> idge, nothing, just type the ~ and it will automatically work out your home directory for you
[03:28] <idge> Xenguy: ok will try
[03:28] <lsuactiafner> roger : updatedb ; locate smb.bin
[03:28] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: then boot into windows
[03:28] <zukalk> hey, i had trouble login in Ubuntu now, i had to chown .ICEauthority because it didn't belong to me anymore. does anyone know why this happened?
[03:28] <lsuactiafner> find /home | grep -i smb will also work i think
[03:28] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: also have this to throw into your brain-bucket: qemu
[03:28] <roger> lsuactiafner, sudo the updatedb eh? :)   but he says the file is on his desktop
[03:28] <lsuactiafner> nalioth : you from rsa
[03:28] <Xenguy> lsuactiafner: not grep
[03:29] <nalioth> zukalk: the easiest way is to del that sorry file (it'll regrow, honest)
[03:29] <idge> Roger: tried it your way and Xenguy way...still does not work
[03:29] <lsuactiafner> well some icon sucks
[03:29] <roger> idge, what does it say?
[03:29] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: i'm sorry?
[03:29] <idge> roger: "No such file or directory"
[03:29] <zukalk> nalioth, thanks. but any idea why it started in the first place?
[03:29] <lsuactiafner> i dont have qemu in apt-cache
[03:29] <Xenguy> idge: jeez why not download the file again, and this time put it somewhere you can find it ;-)
[03:29] <ttyS0> how to change system charset from UTF-8 to CP1251 ?
[03:29] <lsuactiafner> nalioth : where you from?
[03:30] <nalioth> zukalk: it's a known problem on ubuntu, ppc  and x86 (i've personally seen) alike
[03:30] <zukalk> thanks
[03:30] <nalioth> zukalk: i just switch to another login console, login, and del the little troublemaker
[03:30] <roger> idge, right click on the file and select 'properties', what does it say in the "name" and "location" fields?
[03:30] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: houston, tx, why?
[03:30] <idge> Xenguy: i have the file on the Hoary install cd...then extracted it to the desktop
[03:30] <roger> Xenguy, why do I get the feeling he's taking the piss? :)
[03:30] <Xenguy> idge: if that's true, the only thing you need is the correct path
[03:31] <zukalk> nalioth, i'll keep that in mind ;)
[03:31] <lsuactiafner> wonderin what time you have there.. you are always online with me
[03:31] <Xenguy> roger: caffeine is probably a major factor here
[03:31] <lsuactiafner> Fri Jun 24 03:31:59 SAST 2005
[03:31] <idge> roger: name: sbm.bin   location: /home/idge/Desktop
[03:31] <lsuactiafner> as i said go get coffee, the answer will come
[03:31] <benja> my Hoary mounts USB pen, then when i remount it it dosent appear...how can i fox this ?
[03:31] <Jim2> I need more than coffee
[03:31] <roger> idge, right, so you want sbm.bin instead of smb.bin!
[03:32] <coolkev> who here likes the song Acky Breaky Heart
[03:32] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: don't strain your brain, i drive a taxi and am here at all hours in-and-out
[03:32] <coolkev> by Paul Sirus
[03:32] <lsuactiafner> when i program and get stuck, i make coffee.
[03:32] <idge> roger: ok...now i am really pissed at my dyslexia!
[03:32] <Jim2> I have a stick drink
[03:32] <Xenguy> nyuck nyuck nyuck
[03:32] <lsuactiafner> lol i thought the bootdisk was some LOAF smb share
[03:33] <roger> idge, so type this: "dd if=~/Desktop/sbm.bin of=/dev/fd0 bs=512"  and that should work a treat
[03:33] <Jim2> I have a stiff drink
[03:33] <coolkev> u have a stick dick?
[03:33] <coolkev> i mean drink
[03:33] <roger> idge, no worries man so long as it works this time :)
[03:33] <Xenguy> Jim2: that's even better than coffee :-)
[03:33] <idge> roger: bad news, still says "no such file la la la"
[03:34] <lsuactiafner> i think bed is a good option
[03:34] <Xenguy> tomorrow is a brand new day :-)
[03:34] <zukalk> what's the easier way to set the apps for each mime type?
[03:35] <idge> roger: should is cd into the Desktop in the root terminal?
[03:35] <jsimmons> i just installed quake2, but it's not in the menu.  how do i run it?
[03:35] <Xenguy> jsimmons: which quake2
[03:35] <roger> idge, type that command in a normal terminal as your user, not root
[03:35] <idge> ok
[03:36] <jsimmons> the one in the repository
[03:36] <Jim2> Xenguy: Yes and I do care about Ubuntu then either
[03:36] <Xenguy> jsimmons: type that at the command-line
[03:36] <Jim2> do=dont
[03:36] <jsimmons> in a terminal window?
[03:36] <Xenguy> Jim2: ?
[03:36] <Xenguy> jsimmons: yeah
[03:36] <idge> roger: i think it worked!
[03:37] <Xenguy> jsimmons: it should show the full path if it is installed
[03:37] <idge> roger: it is writing to the floppy!
[03:37] <Jim2> I have had nothing but confusion w trying to install Ub.
[03:37] <roger> idge, awesome!
[03:37] <jsimmons> LoadLibrary("ref_softx.so") failed...
[03:37] <idge> roger: man
[03:37] <idge> roger: i didn't know i was supposed to be in a regular terminal
[03:38] <Xenguy> Jim2: really eh?  I haven't followed your saga (just popped in recently), but I found Ubu pretty flawless on my new hardware at work <shrug>
[03:38] <idge> roger: how will i know if it worked properly?
[03:38] <roger> idge, heheh, no worries
[03:38] <crappledev> you've got to love the menu pkg... i never knew it was special until i switched over today...
[03:38] <roger> idge, try booting it? :)
[03:38] <pr0ger> whats a good dvd ripper other then mencoder and dvdrip since those both suck horribly
[03:38] <idge> roger: yeah i guess so
[03:39] <zukalk> how do i set which apps are used for each mime type?
[03:39] <idge> roger: man thanks for your help!
[03:39] <snowseal> dvdshrink with wine
[03:39] <roger> idge, no problem, hope it works!
[03:39] <Xenguy> jsimmons: did you install from DEB, or from SOURCE?
[03:39] <pr0ger> hmm
[03:39] <Jim2> I am at a Partion Disk screen. If I say finish partitioning and write changes to disk option then it presents me with a screen that presents me with a whole slew of existing swap partitions used by other distros as well as the ones I told the install to use for UB!
[03:39] <idge> roger: me too!
[03:39] <pr0ger> shouldve thought of that :P
[03:39] <jsimmons> deb
[03:39] <jsimmons> i think
[03:39] <idge> roger: how do you know / how did ytou learn all this stuff?
[03:39] <idge> roger: about Linux that is?
[03:40] <snowseal> make iso with dvdshrink and burn with k3b
[03:40] <pr0ger> erm
[03:40] <pr0ger> I want the avi on the comp :P
[03:40] <Xenguy> jsimmons: if you installed from DEB, there should be no missing dependencies
[03:40] <roger> idge, just experience, and some solaris training at work
[03:40] <pr0ger> I want a*
[03:40] <snowseal> owk.nm
[03:40] <Jim2> My quesiton is why the heck is it going to touch the other swap partitions?????
[03:40] <Xenguy> Jim2: that definitely sounds messed up...
[03:40] <crappledev> idge, we all thank man ')
[03:40] <crappledev> jsimmons , yeah, thank deb too
[03:41] <idge> roger: man, i hope i can get to where i can answer ppl's questions on Linux
[03:41] <jsimmons> i installed with synaptic
[03:41] <budluva1> is it possible to install ubuntu over top of my current debian install? my / is on a separate partion from my /home and /storage drives, so i don't see why i cant, anyone done this?
[03:41] <chris__> X_x I need gdesklets, it's not in synaptic Package manager though
[03:41] <Xenguy> Jim2: you wouldn't by any chance have a 3rd-party tool like 'Partition Magic' on d0ze, would you?
[03:41] <idge> I just switched to Linux bc i heard it kicks window's ass
[03:41] <roger> idge, you will do :)  just stick with it
[03:41] <nalioth> idge: you probably already can....
[03:41] <chris__> idge: me too
[03:41] <pr0ger> chris__: you have universe and multiverse enabled in your sources.list
[03:42] <crappledev> imo i see no immediate benifit to switching to aptitude
[03:42] <idge> roger: awsome...well..i am off to reboot..thanks again!
[03:42] <nalioth> budluva1: what is your current debian distro?
[03:42] <roger> idge, good luck ;)
 Jim2: you wouldn't by any chance have a 3rd-party tool like 'Partition Magic' on d0ze, would you? <== some of these partitions may have been formatted with it
[03:42] <chris__> pr0ger: X_X I'm afraid I have no idea what you mean...
[03:42] <budluva1> nalioth, sarge
[03:42] <Jim2> Xenguy: Do not know if it is installed under Win2k .. Dont believe so
[03:42] <pr0ger> chris__: Whats your /etc/apt/sources.list look like
[03:42] <nalioth> budluva1: are you in a hurry to switch?
[03:43] <jsimmons> ahhh i see
[03:43] <jsimmons> This package contains no data files.  You will need to either install the
[03:43] <jsimmons> commercial data from the Quake II CD-ROM with the ``quake2-data'' package,
[03:43] <jsimmons> or install some free data files.
[03:43] <Xenguy> Jim2: if you have PM, I'd try to sort out the partition confusion with that tool; set up the partitions 'in advance', so when you install Ubu, it can just slide into the partitions it's supposed to
[03:43] <budluva1> nalioth, well i have an xp machine and 2 debian machines, was going to install ubuntu on one of my deb machines, but no its not a big hurry i guess, why?
[03:43] <snowseal> what should i do to mount my ntfs drives rw?
[03:43] <jsimmons> ah well, it's not that important to me
[03:43] <jsimmons> i just wanted to check it out
[03:44] <Jim2> Xenguy: Already tried that and I am dam sure the same result occurred
[03:44] <nalioth> budluva1: i'm kinda dumb on some of the names (sarge, sid, etc) but you can transition to ubuntu from one of them (what was before sarge?)
[03:44] <crappledev> set auto_away off
[03:44] <Xenguy> snowseal: there's a tool called captive-NTFS, but I think it is fairly 'alpha'
[03:44] <zukalk> woody?
[03:44] <crappledev> woody
[03:44] <budluva1> nalioth, woody
[03:44] <nalioth> budluva1: and i'm not the one to ask. you should ask seveas or bob2
[03:44] <chris__> pr0ger: What do you mean look like? I'm looking at it right now, what should I look for that may be 'off'
[03:44] <jsimmons> removing it now
[03:44] <jsimmons> and it's gone
[03:44] <budluva1> nalioth, sarge is current stable, sid is experimental
[03:44] <Xenguy> Jim2: I'm not sure what to say; sounds like you need to simplify your setup frankly
[03:44] <crappledev> the whole 2.4 kernels are what made me take a break from linux and bust back out the OS X cds
[03:45] <nalioth> budluva1: ok. ask seveas later or bob2 for a sure answer
[03:45] <snowseal> ty Xenguy
[03:45] <pr0ger> look for a line like "deb http://<thedeblink>/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse"
[03:45] <Xenguy> snowseal: yw
[03:45] <crappledev> don't forget etch
[03:45] <crappledev> etch is testing
[03:45] <chris__> pr0ger: Should I un comment out the lines that end with 'hoary universe'
[03:45] <pr0ger> yeah gdesklets is in the universe pool :P
[03:45] <Xenguy> chris__: yep
[03:46] <wsalahi> hey for the grub menu how do i make it so that there is no timelimit?
[03:46] <chris__> Do I have to be in root to do that?
[03:46] <wsalahi> im already looking at the file i have to edit, i just dont know what to put for the slot
[03:46] <Xenguy> chris__: prepend 'sudo'
[03:46] <Jim2> Xenguy: Well Suse,Mandrake, SLackware and even Fedora had no problem going on. It only UB that is putting up a fight
[03:47] <Jim2> What is the skull & crossbones ascii character indicate?
[03:47] <chris__> What do you mean, I know I can go into the prompt and use su to change to root, but what do I do to open this?
[03:48] <Xenguy> Jim2: I've only done a few Ubu installs - the last one was (auto)magic, but then I don't have umpteen partiations either -- anyhow good luck, cos I'm out of ideas
[03:48] <Xenguy> Jim2: = swap (I think)
[03:48] <crappledev> I thought there was a slack ppc back in the day, wonder what happened :/
[03:48] <indigo> can anyone please tell me why the "gnome" session on my recent ubuntu install has no window manager?
[03:48] <wsalahi> hey im looking at the file to edit the grub menu defaults. i want to make it so that i have an unlimited timelimit to choose between operating systems. what entry should i put for timeseconds to do so?
[03:49] <Xenguy> wsalahi: man grub ?
[03:49] <indigo> what does gnome use for a wm these days, anyway?
[03:49] <wsalahi> xenguy: no information for timeout
[03:49] <Styx> metacity, I believe
[03:49] <chris__> :-X What's the default root pass in ubuntu?
[03:50] <indigo> Styx: thanks
[03:50] <Xenguy> indigo: metacity I think
[03:50] <indigo> i'll try installing it
[03:50] <indigo> but first, i have to close this window...because i can't move it :(
[03:50] <Xenguy> chris__: by default, there is no root :-)
[03:50] <budluva1> bob2, you therE?
[03:50] <zukalk> chris__, do you mean the sudo pass?
[03:50] <Xenguy> chris__: if you want root, do -> sudo passwd root
[03:50] <Xenguy> chris__: (tho some don't recommend it)
[03:51] <chris__> Erm......I think I've confused myself, what do I have to do to edit sources.list
[03:51] <indigo> mmmm....window management
[03:51] <Xenguy> chris__: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:51] <Xenguy> chris__: or -> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:51] <chris__> it asks me for a password X_x
[03:52] <Xenguy> chris__: yes, your user password
[03:52] <chris__> oh okay
[03:52] <chris__> :-D I <3 you all, I'm starting to get this now
[03:53] <Xenguy> ;-)
[03:54] <chris__> uh-oh, :-X how do I save with nano?
[03:54] <chris__> I feel so dumb -__-;
[03:54] <ray_> hello?
[03:54] <ray_> anybody here
[03:54] <jsimmons> when I install apps, how do I put them in the menu?
[03:54] <zukalk> chris__, Ctrl+X, it'll ask you if you wanna overwrite
[03:55] <winnipegm> how can i mount fat32 i was able to mount hfsplus i need to transfer files :(
[03:55] <crappledev> jsimmons , get menu
[03:55] <crappledev> apt-get install menu
[03:55] <crappledev> then sudo update-menus
[03:55] <crappledev> that will give you the awesome menus we took for granted in debian
[03:55] <ray_> wow thats good to know
[03:56] <Xenguy> chris__: there should be clear indicators at the bottom of the screen...
[03:56] <abood> hi all, guys i need support with firestarter, its damn firewall :( wont work.. cany any body help ?
[03:56] <Xenguy> chris__: or type 'h' for help (?)
[03:56] <Xenguy> abood: if you are looking for an alternative, keep 'shorewall' in mind (no GUI tho)
[03:56] <ray_> anybody know how to get sound to work with multiple apps?
[03:57] <zukalk> exit
[03:57] <zukalk> oops, forgot the '/'
[03:57] <crappledev> ray_, what are you running?
[03:57] <zukalk> cya lads
[03:57] <bddebian> Hey folks
[03:57] <ray_> well
[03:58] <bddebian> Anyone have another mirror for Breezy?  I am told that the us mirror is borked?
[03:58] <crappledev> jey bddebian
[03:58] <abood> Xenguy, maybe i will try it later, now i need someone to go with me for making firestarter works :S
[03:58] <winnipegm> how can i mount fat32 i was able to mount hfsplus i need to mount my windows drive anyone wanna help me with this i really need sum important files
[03:59] <ray_> I didnt have any sound when i installed. I had to grab the latest version of alsa to get sound to work. Now I have to uncheck the system sound on startup box to hear sound on apps.
[03:59] <cartel_> winnipegm: mount -t vfat /dev/blah /mnt/blah
[03:59] <Xenguy> abood: nod
[03:59] <winnipegm> oh ok
[03:59] <abood> winnipegm, check www.ubuntuguide.org everything is solved there
[03:59] <nalioth> winnipegm: the easiest way is to go here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab
[03:59] <winnipegm> ok thanks
[03:59] <ray_> and i want both the system sounds and my other apps to have sound
[03:59] <nalioth> winnipegm: stay away from ubuntuguide
[03:59] <winnipegm> lol
[03:59] <jsimmons> i got menus and ran update-menus, but nothing happened. do i have to restart X?
[04:00] <nalioth> winnipegm: it will "fix" you at a cost
[04:00] <ray_> brb
[04:00] <cartel_> nalioth: his soul?
[04:00] <cartel_> :)
[04:00] <abood> huys, who's here is running Firestarter Firewall ???, i need helpp
[04:00] <nalioth> cartel_: worse, his box
[04:00] <cartel_> nalioth: how so:?
[04:01] <cartel_> nalioth: bad experience?
[04:01] <winnipegm> root@S01060010dc713c89:~ # mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /mnt/gentoo/
[04:01] <winnipegm> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2,
[04:01] <winnipegm>        or too many mounted file systems
[04:01] <winnipegm>        (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,
[04:01] <winnipegm>        instead of some logical partition inside?)
[04:01] <nalioth> cartel_: read this (no 3) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[04:01] <winnipegm> oops
[04:02] <nalioth> cartel_: a lot of the questions/problems in here are due to the 'guide
[04:02] <ray_> anybody out there get thoggen to work?
[04:02] <winnipegm> that didnt work to well
[04:02] <nalioth> cartel_: teh SOB who wrote is in here lurking and keeping score
[04:02] <crappledev> my new kernel is rocking with the mac mini suppor
[04:02] <QMario> How can I enable flash or mplayer to play sound with the video?
[04:02] <cartel_> interesting
[04:02] <squinn> Okay.
[04:02] <abood> no support :( ?
[04:03] <squinn> I think I really screwed up dpkg
[04:03] <winnipegm> how do i start ssh?
[04:03] <nalioth> winnipegm: no luck?
[04:03] <winnipegm> nope
[04:03] <ray_> any body know how to copy dvd's
[04:03] <squinn> I'm not at the moment, abood.
[04:03] <nalioth> winnipegm: open a terminal and type it
[04:03] <squinn> not running it*
[04:03] <crappledev> abood , i am not a fw guy
[04:03] <squinn> How would I fix dpkg if I really messed it up?
[04:03] <winnipegm> hmm
[04:03] <concept10> How do I change KDE fonts to match gnome?  I want k3b to look like native app
[04:03] <crappledev> squinn, what do you mean 'messed it up'
[04:03] <snowseal> is it possible to play multiple audio streams at the same time?
[04:03] <winnipegm> nalioth, that mount didnt work
[04:03] <QMario> How can I enable flash or mplayer to play sound with the video?
[04:03] <auk> now i am using a dvorak mapping
[04:04] <snowseal> atm it is not, but windoze can.
[04:04] <auk> huuh?
[04:04] <winnipegm> said wrong fs type
[04:04] <squinn> crappledev, messed around with config file
[04:04] <concept10> nalioth, why dont you guys get the guy to fix the guide
[04:04] <squinn> now it won't do anything
[04:04] <auk> br, c am gocib a ekrpat mallcbiv
[04:04] <nalioth> winnipegm: then ask uncle google "mount windows partition linux fstab"
[04:04] <auk> d..d..
[04:04] <QMario> How can I enable flash or mplayer to play sound with the video?
[04:04] <auk> ydco co jrrn
[04:04] <nalioth> concept10: i don't know who it is
[04:04] <nalioth> concept10:  i don't recommend it, and neither do a lot of the other regulars in here
[04:04] <auk> cy ,rgne ,rpt ,.nn yr .bjre. orm.ydcbivvv
[04:04] <winnipegm> off
[04:04] <crappledev> squinn , you want a default one?
[04:04] <winnipegm> odd
[04:05] <winnipegm> other partitions didnt work
[04:05] <winnipegm> this one did :D
[04:05] <QMario> How can I enable flash or mplayer to play sound with the video?
[04:05] <ray_> u guys like ubuntu
[04:05] <auk> frg jab yfl. jrmln.y.nf paberm ydcbio!
[04:05] <concept10> winnipegm, what are you trying to mount?
[04:05] <winnipegm> i got it
[04:05] <winnipegm> i was trying to mount another drive
[04:05] <winnipegm> but it came with a error
[04:05] <QMario> How can I enable flash or mplayer to play sound with the video?
[04:05] <winnipegm> but the other drive worked
[04:05] <winnipegm> a windows drive
[04:06] <concept10> abood, what is your problem with firestarter
[04:06] <Mobius> would anyone be willing to help me compile sound drivers?
[04:06] <QMario> How can I enable flash or mplayer to play sound with the video?
[04:06] <Jim2> Well.. Ubuntu will not leave other Swap paritions alone during the install
[04:06] <Xenguy> QMario: stop repeating, you fool
[04:06] <squinn> crappledev, certainly
[04:07] <winnipegm> how can i tell if ssh is running tho
[04:07] <nalioth> Mobius: do you know how to compile?
[04:07] <nalioth> winnipegm: cuz you can see it in the terminal
[04:07] <concept10> winnipegm, ps aux | grep ssh
[04:07] <squinn> crappledev, /var/lib/dpkg/info/dpkg.prerm
[04:07] <sladen> QMario: try stopping esd
[04:07] <Mobius> not really nalioth - I am quite new - I've followed a few walkthrus, but I can't do it on my own - I have the realtek drivers I need
[04:07] <crappledev> squinn, do you want a default conf file
[04:07] <squinn> crappledev, yes
[04:07] <crappledev> AH,
[04:07] <winnipegm> root@S01060010dc713c89:~ # ps aux | grep ssh
[04:07] <winnipegm> shaun     4083  0.0  0.4  2920  868 ?        Ss   18:47   0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager
[04:07] <winnipegm> root@S01060010dc713c89:~ #
[04:07] <nalioth> Mobius: what do you want to compile?
[04:07] <_douglas> How do I manually change the x resolution while it's running, kde won't let me go past 640x480 on this old crappy monitor yet I know it goes up to 1024x768?
[04:07] <winnipegm> not running i guess
[04:08] <concept10> QMario, are you trying to get flash? or audio/video codecs
[04:08] <Mobius> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/dlhd-2.aspx?lineid=2004052&famid=2004052&series=2004061&Software=True
[04:08] <Mobius> I am trying to get sound to work on my new laptop nalioth
[04:08] <concept10> _douglas, search the wiki for videoresolution
[04:08] <QMario> Concept10, I have the flash player and mplayer, but neither of them play any sound/audio.
[04:09] <_douglas> k
[04:09] <nalioth> Mobius: what you have is not to be compiled. open the zip and let me know what is in it
[04:09] <concept10> QMario, check you volume controls
[04:10] <Mobius> can we do a private chat nalioth?
[04:10] <Jim2> Has anyone here ever installed Ubuntu on another computer which has another Linux distro?
[04:10] <QMario> Concept10, they are all the way up.
[04:11] <nalioth> Mobius: your choice, but if we have our little question/answer in here, someone else might learn something
[04:11] <abood> concept10, i installed a fresh pakge , and i runnied it, after that i went to the wizard and configued it correctly now , nothing is sunning from the applications like Firefox or gaim or ircd unless i stop the firewall, i tried to add in the inbound all the ports that i need and i applied changes but wont work too ?
[04:11] <winnipegm> concept10, ssh isnt runnin
[04:11] <Mobius> ahuman01, okay, thats fine nalioth =)
[04:12] <Mobius> I am downloading it on the laptop now
[04:12] <crappledev> Jim2, triple booting powerbook
[04:13] <Mobius> okay, there is a azx.tar.bz2
[04:13] <Mobius> core.h, modules.conf, readme, and turbolinux.txt
[04:13] <concept10> abood, you shouldnt have to change the initial config of firestarter to use gaim or firefox
[04:13] <nalioth> crappledev: tripleboot? what dya have besides ubuntu and osx?
[04:13] <concept10> QMario, check the wiki
[04:13] <nalioth> Mobius: read the readme
[04:13] <crappledev> squinn, where is the pasteboard for this place?
[04:13] <Mobius> yeah, but I dont quite get it all nalioth
[04:13] <QMario> Concept10, any specific wiki?
[04:13] <crappledev> so i can give you this
[04:13] <Burrito> hey?
[04:14] <Burrito> did GNULinuxer got on line today?
[04:14] <abood> concept10, yeah i tried the fs before doing anything and also not working ( and i rebooted after installing it) !
[04:14] <Mobius> it says to unzip it, turn on sound support? and then compile source code..
[04:14] <_3rd_nipple> Burrito, havent seen him
[04:14] <concept10> QMario, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems?highlight=%28sound%29
[04:14] <squinn> crappledev, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:14] <nalioth> Mobius: hang on i'm d/l it
[04:14] <crappledev> no bots in here?
[04:14] <Mobius> okay
[04:15] <crappledev> !seen crappledev
[04:15] <ubotu> crappledev is currently on #ubuntu (20m 42s)
[04:15] <nalioth> !ubotu
[04:15] <concept10> abood, do you have any other firewall?
[04:15] <ubotu> nalioth: No idea
[04:15] <Mobius> i think you can paste at paste.ubuntulinux.nl crappledev
[04:15] <crappledev> Burrito, check with ubotu
[04:15] <dave> hello?
[04:15] <cartel_> hi dave
[04:16] <dave> hi cart
[04:16] <dave> new to linux
[04:16] <cartel_> cool
[04:16] <dave> have a few ?'s
[04:16] <Burrito> ok
[04:16] <cartel_> go ahead
[04:16] <Burrito> thanks
[04:16] <crappledev> shoot dave
[04:16] <abood> concept10, no
[04:16] <concept10> abood, do you have a router?
[04:17] <QMario> Thank you, concept10. :-D
[04:17] <dave> how do I adjust the screen resolution from 640X480...it won't gve me any other choices
[04:17] <concept10> QMario, did you fix it?
[04:17] <Xenguy> dave: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:17] <dave> on my way...txx Zen
[04:18] <abood> concept10, also no :S, its strange prop dude :(
[04:18] <squinn> crappledev, pasted?
[04:18] <Xenguy> dave: good luck
[04:19] <Mobius> let me know when you've got it nalioth
[04:19] <concept10> abood, do you use cable/dsl
[04:19] <nalioth> Mobius: thats a damned slow site
[04:19] <Mobius> yeah
[04:19] <Mobius> =/
[04:19] <Mobius> you want me to upload it?
[04:19] <squinn> crappledev, ping
[04:19] <Mobius> or is it going at a reasonable pace
[04:19] <abood> concept10, yes ADSL broadband connection
[04:20] <concept10> abood, what company
[04:20] <abood> concept10, Cyberia
[04:20] <nalioth> Mobius: no i'm punishing the site by using prozilla
[04:20] <crappledev> pasted squinn
[04:20] <crappledev> don't forget to chmod it
[04:21] <concept10> abood, the firewall config doesnt have too many options in the wizard, try using DHCP, also check the firestarter documentation, its good
[04:21] <crappledev> Dave, still here
[04:22] <abood> concept10, thats why im here dude :), i checked the docs and tried wih the DHCP, but not working too :(
[04:22] <concept10> abood, what kind of rules do you have set?
[04:22] <abood> concept10, before fs i installed another firewall and removed it by synaptic, how can i check if its still runnin or not, its not in the sessions
[04:23] <concept10> abood, what fw was it?
[04:24] <ghjsdf> so we log in as MythTV; gnome plays a sound; but when we run mythtv, it compalins about problems with pcm (sound)'; ... now, if we log in as a regular user instead (at the commahnd line and start stuff up with startx), when we log in, gnome does not play anything, ubut then we can play wave files fine 9where as with mythtv we can't play even wave files ... any ideas what might be wrong? thanks in advance
[04:24] <abood> concept10, beileve me i dont remmber, i just add the ports rules to open http and 1863 for the gaim -=> MSN,  and IPP thats all
[04:24] <jjj> Thanks for the help. Laterz :)
[04:25] <concept10> ghjsdf, try $mythtv-users
[04:25] <adam_> hm..
[04:25] <adam_> hello
[04:25] <poningru> hi
[04:25] <adam_> I just installed Ubuntu... and..
[04:25] <adam_> it seems it does not recognize "CVS" command
[04:25] <concept10> ghjsdf, try #mythtv-users
[04:25] <nalioth> Mobius: sorry bud, but the instructions are all greek to me, i can help you compile the stuff, tho
[04:26] <nalioth> Mobius: someone else can help you with where it goes
[04:26] <Xenguy> adam_: sudo apt-get install cvs   ?
[04:26] <ralf_> Under System try administration, Sympathic
[04:26] <adam_> oh wow, i will try that Xenguy : )
[04:26] <adam_> thanks
[04:26] <concept10> abood, not sure about your problem. Like I stateted, you shouldnt have to open ports for web and irc
[04:27] <Xenguy> adam_: yw
[04:27] <Mobius> hmm, why are the greek?
[04:27] <adam_> cool it's installing :  )
[04:27] <adam_> ^______________________'^
[04:27] <nalioth> Mobius: i run apple hardware and don't have any trouble with sound cards and such
[04:27] <Mobius> ahh
[04:27] <Mobius> okay
[04:27] <nalioth> Mobius: so i have 0 experience
[04:28] <Kenosis> Fresh Install - very impressed
[04:28] <abood> concept10, yeah i checked that in the docs, but its dosent works with or without editing rules. i hate that stuff
[04:28] <Kenosis> Switching to KDE though...
[04:28] <Mobius> nalioth: do you think it would go in /usr/src
[04:28] <concept10> does your dsl box have a firewall?
[04:29] <crappledev> Kenosis , you are fresh too?
[04:29] <Kenosis> Curious- after I apt-get install enlightenment, what do I do from there to try it out?
[04:29] <abood> concept10, no, its just an ADSL MODEM, not router
[04:29] <nalioth> Mobius: it will go wherever it is programmed to (and /usr/src/ is not where it will finally go)
[04:30] <Xenguy> Kenosis: good question - I bet is it a FAQ (?)
[04:30] <nalioth> Mobius: do you have the "build-essential" package installed?
[04:30] <Mobius> I do now nalioth =)
[04:31] <nalioth> Mobius: then follow the easy steps in the readme
[04:31] <Mobius> ill try
[04:31] <Mobius> and get back to you
[04:31] <Davey> Kenosis: my suggestion is to install XNest (or something like that) and go to Applications > System Tools > New Login in Nested Window, choose "Session" and then "Enlightenment"
[04:31] <nalioth> Mobius: just the ones that start with ./configure
[04:32] <adam_> hm... excuse me
[04:33] <Davey> Kenosis: yes, "xnest" is the name :)
[04:33] <adam_> i can't use "sh autogen.sh" command..
[04:33] <Davey> Kenosis: or just logout and go to "Session"  then Enlightenment and log back in :)
[04:33] <Mobius> I dont understand nalioth
[04:33] <Tenniru_> Um, how do I make the wireless password it gives to the router be in hex?
[04:34] <crappledev> Kenosis, Davey's method would be the easiest
[04:34] <Davey> Kenosis: I hated Enlightenment (e16) though, which is why I suggest xnest, it runs in a smaller window inside your current X Session
[04:35] <Davey> Kenosis: e17 looks a lot nicer though, I look forward to it, if it *ever* comes out
[04:37] <abood> concept10, whata the other firewall name that u told me about it, i will try it
[04:37] <nalioth> abood check this out http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[04:37] <concept10_> abood, I fixed my wireless while I was helping you!
[04:38] <abood> concept10, hehehe ;)
[04:38] <g00ber> hello
[04:39] <concept10_> abood, okay try this
[04:39] <abood> concept10, im reading it
[04:40] <g00ber> what does "can't find kernel source.. " mean? im trying to install ndiswrapper for my wireless
[04:40] <zeeeee> hi all, i read on some the forum that i can install synergy via synaptic, but i can't find it on the list... how do i fix this? (see http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php%3Fid%3D5313&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php%253Fid%253D5313%26hl%3Den%26hs%3D1Rx%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:unofficial)
[04:40] <concept10_> abood, under prefs in firestarter, network settings make sure your connection is selected, I just had to do it with wireless
[04:40] <concept10_> anyone know a good tool to detect wireless ranges?
[04:40] <angryfix> when you have gaim open is there a way to make it blink with a new message?  also, is there a way to make any program blink when there is activity
[04:41] <Tenniru_> Um, how do I make the wireless password it gives to the router be in hex?
[04:41] <auk> xchat run w/o it's windows open?
[04:41] <crappledev> gaim won't blink, but it will come to the foregroung
[04:41] <auk> oops..
[04:41] <auk> wrong channel
[04:41] <crappledev> which gets annoying
[04:41] <g00ber> noone can help me?
[04:41] <djs> zeeeee: you need to activate the "universe" repository
[04:41] <Tenniru_> I think the password Ubuuntu gives to my router is being sent in ASCII.
[04:41] <angryfix> can gnome desktop blink when a program shows new activity
[04:42] <likkashot> whats the file I need to edit for my eth0
[04:42] <concept10_> g00ber, did you load the wrapper?
[04:42] <g00ber> i did a "make install"
[04:42] <abood> concept10, lol maybe that is the proplem, i entered the eth1 that its connected to the modem , or i must choose the ipv6 ??
[04:42] <g00ber> and thats when the kernel error appear
[04:42] <concept10_> dont use ipv6
[04:42] <zeeeee> djs, oh ok, thanks for the tip
[04:42] <djs> zeeeee: yw :)
[04:43] <concept10_> g00ber, do you have build-essentials installed?
[04:43] <g00ber> eh?
[04:43] <TokenBad> whats command to unmount an iso?
[04:43] <g00ber> i dunno whats it mean
[04:43] <g00ber> i tried to "apt-get install kernel-source"
[04:43] <g00ber> but i got another error
[04:43] <likkashot> whats the file I need to edit for my eth0
[04:44] <djs> likkashot: not sure what you mean but /etc/network/interfaces could be the one
[04:44] <g00ber> 50%... blah blah.. "package kernel-source is not avail, but is referred to by another package"
[04:44] <concept10_> g00ber, use this it worked for me https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto?highlight=%28ndis%29
[04:44] <likkashot> ok
[04:44] <g00ber> ok.. lemme try that
[04:44] <abood> concept10, i entered dialup ppp0 device and i start the firewall, and it working
[04:44] <Haldrik> Hey guys, Ubuntu overwrites resolv.conf everytime it brings up the network (it basically erases everything and replaces it with just one line: nameserver 192.168.0.1 (router), but I want it to keep 127.0.0.1 as the first line always, since I use the named server locally and its way faster than using the router and earthlink's nameservers...how can I fix this?
[04:44] <likkashot> well I just want to set it at full duplex for some tests
[04:44] <youngcoder> i installed the apache2 package on my system.. how do i run the program?
[04:45] <abood> concept10, but i must check it correctly
[04:45] <nalioth> Haldrik: your 'hosts' file doesnt work?
[04:45] <Haldrik> well, yeah, I guess....I never really looked at it.
[04:45] <g00ber> eh? it says on top of that wiki page .. "Please note: This is not the right way! Compiling from source must be avoided! A rewrite of this page will be available soon "
[04:45] <Davey> I wish I could get e17 running on here
[04:46] <nalioth> Haldrik: cat /etc/hosts and see what the top line is
[04:46] <Haldrik> its 127.0.0.1 localhost
[04:46] <nalioth> Haldrik: so you are fixed up
[04:46] <Bhunta> Hi, newbie arriving...does anyone have time for a question about apache vs. apache2?
[04:46] <likkashot> think ill need my LPIC book
[04:47] <Mobius> can anyone tell me where something like /etc/modules.conf or conf.modules is in linux?
[04:47] <Mobius> *ubuntu
[04:47] <Haldrik> but my resolve.conf just says 192.168.0.1 instead of the localhost thing. I have to manually add that line every time I start the computer.
[04:47] <Haldrik> if i want to use the local dns
[04:47] <nalioth> Haldrik: are you the only user on the network?
[04:48] <Haldrik> na, couple of others in the house
[04:48] <nalioth> Haldrik: then i'm out of answers
[04:48] <idge> i have a dual proc machine and Linux doesn't see both procs...can anyone help?
[04:48] <nalioth> idge: you need a smp kernel
[04:48] <idge> nalioth: i thopught i had one!
[04:48] <youngcoder> i installed the apache2 package on my system.. how do i run the program?
[04:48] <concept10_> Mobius, locate modules
[04:48] <tekk> Quick question, every time i try to run a script in the terminal the terminal will quickly open then close why is this?
[04:49] <idge> i installed everything smp in synaptic
[04:49] <nalioth> idge: open a term and check "uname -a"
[04:49] <crimsun> Mobius: you should avoid using /etc/modules.conf directly
[04:49] <idge> nalioth: ok
[04:49] <Haldrik> nalioth hey thanks anyway, I'll experiment a little more...that's the fun of linux anyway!
[04:49] <djs> Haldrik: Try locking /etc/resolv.conf with "sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf" (to unlock, use chattr -i)
[04:49] <nalioth> tekk: are you writing IN the terminal or in the 'run appliation' box?
[04:49] <yzero> what is a lock?
[04:49] <idge> nalioth: it says: "Linux idge 2.6.10-5-686-smp #1 SMP Tue Jun 7 09:34:54 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux"
[04:49] <djs> Haldrik: ... once you've set it up the way you want :)
[04:50] <tekk> nalioth: im using the 'run application' box
[04:50] <Haldrik> ok, lemme try it out...thanks!
[04:50] <nalioth> idge: ok then. we've left the realm of my smp knowledge
[04:50] <nalioth> idge: and how do you know its NOT seeing them both?
[04:50] <likkashot> Do I realy need to have ip6 installed >???
[04:50] <nalioth> tekk: shell scripts should be run in a terminal window
[04:50] <idge> nalioth: in the sys monitor it only shows one proc
[04:50] <likkashot> or is it there by default
[04:50] <kenosis> Hey, where do I find the "sparkle" desktop on my system (or http)???
[04:51] <Bhunta> Has anyone installed Ruby on Rails and gotten the following error? No such file to load -- zlib (LoadError)
[04:51] <zenlunatic> I have a website and I updated the code on it but when I refresh in firefox it doesn't show the new code but rather the old. any ideas?
[04:51] <nalioth> idge: ok. i'm lost at this point
[04:51] <djs> yzero: in this case, preventing changes to the file
[04:51] <nalioth> zenlunatic: clear your cache
[04:51] <Bhunta> I've added the recommended zlib packages and recompiled Ruby, but still no dice
[04:51] <idge> nalioth: me too
[04:51] <tekk> nalioth: okay, just to make sure, the command to run a python script is py scriptname.py correct?
[04:51] <nalioth> tekk: blahblah.py yes
[04:51] <Bhunta> zen: set your cache to check every page load....
[04:52] <Bhunta> and shift-reload will force a cache clear
[04:52] <crimsun> idge: do you have true smp hardware?
[04:52] <tekk> nalioth: because that has not been working for me :(
[04:52] <youngcoder> i installed the apache2 package on my system.. how do i run the program?
[04:52] <kenosis> Hey, where do I find the "sparkle" desktop on my system (or http)???
[04:52] <nalioth> tekk: do you have the correct python interpreter installed?
[04:52] <idge> crimsun: what do you mean?
[04:52] <nalioth> idge: are you running a hyperthreading p4?
[04:53] <zenlunatic> nalioth: y do i have to do that every time?
[04:53] <tekk> nalioth: Python 2.4.1 (#2, Mar 30 2005, 21:51:10)
[04:53] <tekk> [GCC 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)]  on linux2
[04:53] <idge> nalioth: no this is a dual PIII 550 machine
[04:53] <nalioth> zenlunatic: i have no idea, i don't use FF
[04:53] <tekk> nalioth thats what it says when i start the interpreter
[04:53] <nalioth> tekk: there are several versions of python
[04:53] <Dj_AlTeK> hey all
[04:53] <idge> nalioth: Gigabyte 6BXDS board
[04:53] <nalioth> crimsun, any SMP ideas?
[04:54] <idge> i have 2 actual, physical procs
[04:54] <tekk> nalioth: read my copy/paste its 2.4.1, the one that came with ubuntu already installed
[04:54] <nalioth> tekk: but perhaps your .py depends on a nother version
[04:54] <tekk> nalioth: i created this file myself today
[04:54] <crimsun> idge: when you boot, does POST actually display both procs?
[04:55] <nalioth> tekk: i know next to nothing about python, other than i have several versions installed right now
[04:55] <Dj_AlTeK> hey ne1 try out SLI boards yet??
[04:55] <idge> crimsun: what is POST?
[04:55] <crimsun> idge: power-on self-test
[04:55] <Bhunta> Youngcoder: the apache2 executable is located in /etc/init.d
[04:55] <idge> ooooh
[04:55] <idge> it used to!
[04:55] <nalioth> idge: when it boots, does it say "found 2 procs" or something like that?
[04:55] <Bhunta> do /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[04:56] <idge> nalioth: it used to!
[04:56] <nalioth> idge: then you may have a jumper/mobo problem
[04:56] <zenlunatic> nalioth: well same deal with epiphany
[04:56] <tekk> nalioth: sigh...alright can you point me in a direction i should go for help?
[04:56] <idge> not since Hoary install!
[04:56] <Bhunta> you can also pass it the stop parameter
[04:56] <nalioth> zenlunatic: i have 0 idea
[04:56] <idge> nalioth:  hhhmmmmmmmm
[04:56] <Bhunta> /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[04:56] <nalioth> tekk: ask uncle google, cuz i'm not a python man
[04:56] <Dj_AlTeK> lol
[04:56] <likkashot> how can I test the speed transfer between my 2 comps
[04:56] <idge> naloith: why would it see both procs and then all the sudden it doesn't?
[04:57] <tekk> nalioth: uncle google has already been asked, but thanks for the trying anyway..
[04:57] <cartel_> idge: wrong kernel install?
[04:57] <nalioth> idge: the POST stopping 'seeing' them is a mobo problem  (jumper, wire, loose CPU, etc)
[04:57] <nalioth> idge: perhaps one of you fans isnt adequately cooling, could be anything
[04:58] <nalioth> idge: but the POST (that used to see them both) now only seeing one, is ominous
[04:58] <idge> nalioth: that is not what i wanted to hear but you are prolly right! what do you mean by ominous?
[04:58] <nalioth> idge: as in "it don't sound good"
[04:59] <idge> nalioth: i am from Texas...you are now speaking my language!
[04:59] <djs> tekk: python <scriptname> should work
[04:59] <nalioth> idge: what a coincidence, i'm from Houston
[04:59] <idge> nalioth: live there now?
[05:00] <nalioth> idge: every day
[05:00] <dylan_> Nooby question: I'm trying to install gparted in a fresh and vanilla hoary install.  I've added universe, multiverse, and hoary backports to sources.list.  I've also run sudo apt-get update.  I'm getting a message about unmet dependencies (libglibmm-2.4-1, libgtkmm-2.4-1, libsigc++-2.0-0).  What am I doing wrong?
[05:00] <idge> nalitoh: awsome, i am in Nacogdoches...about 2 hours north of IAH
[05:00] <nalioth> idge: my sister used to live there
[05:01] <idge> nalioth: really? what is her name (small town, gotta ask)
[05:01] <nalioth> dylan_: remove the backports from your list
[05:01] <djs> dylan_: try commenting out the backports repository (for now)
[05:01] <nalioth> dylan_: reload your apt-get
[05:01] <nalioth> dylan_: and see how it goes
[05:01] <nalioth> idge: i prefer to keep my family private
[05:01] <tekk> djs: oh, sorry i thought it was py <scriptname> thanks for the help
[05:01] <idge> nalioth: fair enough
[05:02] <djs> tekk: np
[05:02] <nalioth> idge: to me, it sounds like a cpu fan may have stopped/slowed down and one of you procs cooked
[05:02] <nalioth> idge: or may be loose
[05:02] <nalioth> idge: the mobo/cpus need to be investigated (send in vacuum cleaner first)
[05:03] <idge> nalioth: hhmmmmmm....i think you are right.....
[05:03] <idge> nalioth: I am going to power down and investigate
[05:03] <nalioth> idge: i wouldnt worry, your system runs ok anyway, right?
[05:04] <nalioth> idge: or do you have spare CPUs to plug in?
[05:04] <idge> nalioth: yeah pretty much...just slower thn it used to..oh yeah..i have many spare PIIIs and PIIs
[05:04] <idge> i collect them it seems
[05:04] <nalioth> idge: well then perhaps you can bring it back up
[05:05] <idge> nalioth: yeah...i think that is what I am going to do...
[05:05] <dylan_> nalioth: same error after commenting out backports.  Any other ideas?  I can futz around in the terminal fdisk and parted, but I'm a GUI junkie :P
[05:05] <idge> nalioth: just took case off....both proc fans are spinning....comments?
[05:06] <nalioth> dylan_: did you 'apt-get update' after editing your sources.list?
[05:06] <nalioth> idge: investigate further, batman
[05:06] <dylan_> nalioth: yup yup
[05:06] <idge> nalioth: so it shall be, thanks and ttyl
[05:07] <nalioth> dylan_: backports cause this kind of thing, and i'm not sure how to advise you to correct it
[05:07] <nalioth> dylan_: what hardware / arch are you using?
[05:07] <dabar> You are all lucky my Ubuntu works...
[05:08] <dylan_> Nalioth: amd64 with an i386 install of Ubuntu (just wiped the amd64 install - too many things weren't working off the bat)
[05:08] <bob2> how so?
[05:08] <dabar> serious, otherwise you would have to work on it.
[05:08] <ditto> how do change your window setting in X
[05:08] <dabar> well, have to...
[05:08] <ditto> the screen resolution?
[05:08] <ditto> i wanna make it 1200+780
[05:08] <ditto> or something like that.
[05:09] <bob2> no one has to help you with anything
[05:09] <bob2> people here are volunteers
[05:09] <dabar> (22:08:37) dabar: well, have to...
[05:09] <bob2> be grateful that they did help
[05:09] <dabar> Now, I have a question for you though...
[05:09] <dabar> DO you really think I was serious about that?
[05:09] <dabar> sorry dbl caps.
[05:09] <yzero> bob2, Are you any good with grub problems ?
[05:10] <lifeless> yzero: what problem are you having?
[05:10] <yzero> After an install.. it reboots and I get "grub hd install error"
[05:10] <dabar> lifeless: there is still some life left in you.
[05:10] <lifeless> dabar: hahahaha, thats *so* funny
[05:10] <dabar> yzero any errors during install?
[05:10] <yzero> The autodetect isn't working properly.
[05:10] <yzero> no
[05:11] <yzero> Another person the forums with a qosmio laptop had the same error
[05:11] <dabar> enabled boot from hd in BIOS?
[05:11] <yzero> lol yes
[05:11] <Dj_AlTeK> ugh! i dun like linux nemore :(
[05:11] <abood> guys how do i change the icons pack ?
[05:11] <yzero> I had to wipe the mbr to get windows back
[05:11] <abood> i need to install a new icon pack
[05:12] <lifeless> yzero: so you want to setup chain loading to windows?
[05:12] <yzero> lifeless, no.. I want to be able to boot ubuntu
[05:12] <yzero> and windows
[05:12] <Styx> Is there a line I can add to my /etc/apt/sources.list so I can apt-get install mplayer?
[05:12] <yzero> but grub won't install properly
[05:12] <dabar> abood: http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q4
[05:12] <Quest-Master> Styx: add universe
[05:12] <dabar> multiverse in fact, I think.
[05:12] <lifeless> yzero: ok, where are you trying to install it from - a boot cd, or floppy or ..?
[05:12] <yzero> boot cd
[05:12] <lifeless> is ubuntu installed already ?
[05:12] <yzero> ubuntu install cd..
[05:13] <yzero> yup
[05:13] <dabar> abood, remember that site, it has the FAQs for anything realted to skining gnome.
[05:13] <lifeless> ok
[05:13] <yzero> and the livecd is option out since i have no blanks
[05:13] <ilba7r> why does ubuntu use most of my memory. I used it on a pc with 256 MB ram and another with 512 MB ram and on both it say it is using 84% of the memory though i am hardly running any program?
[05:13] <lifeless> go into the installer in expert mode
[05:13] <yzero> okay
[05:13] <oofnik> ilba7r what program are you using to check mem usage
[05:14] <dylan_> Hmm... speaking of GRUB probs, has anybody heard of an XP install and a 2000 install breaking after GRUB is installed?  I chainload into the Windows bootloader just fine, but both installs of windows crash out before they finish loading...
[05:14] <yzero> How do i enable expert mode
[05:14] <ilba7r> oofnik just gaim media player and evolution
[05:14] <lifeless> and get through the hardware detection - but don't do any partitioning, hit escape when it starts asking about that foo, and there is a option to 'enter a shell'
[05:14] <dabar> says press f1 for help, enter to boot.
[05:14] <lifeless> yzero: I don't
[05:14] <kenosis> Hey, where do I find the "sparkle" desktop?
[05:14] <dabar> You type in expert and hit enter.
[05:14] <lifeless> yzero: I don't recall sorry
[05:14] <yzero> lifeless, I've tried that.. and my hard drive isn't listed on /dev
[05:14] <oofnik> ilba7r unless you feel your system running sluggishly i don't think there's anything to worry about
[05:14] <dabar> lifeless: if you follow what I said, that works.
[05:15] <lifeless> yzero: is it in /proc/ide ?
[05:15] <yzero> Not sure
[05:15] <cthulfuego> ilba7r: It's using otherwise free ram as file/disk cache. This is not a problem, this is a design feature that speeds up the syste.
[05:15] <lifeless> yzero: you have to go through the normal process to the partitioning point
[05:15] <yzero> Obviously the installer finds it though.. since i did a complete install
[05:15] <lifeless> yzero: or the drivers won't have loaded
[05:15] <yzero> oh ok
[05:15] <yzero> I see
[05:15] <ilba7r> oofnik the problem is when i run cross over some the cpu start running like crazy that my pc heat up and the computer shut down
[05:15] <yzero> So i can mount it then and edit menu.lst?
[05:15] <lifeless> its at the partitioning point you need to stop, hist escape and then go into the shell via the menu
[05:16] <lifeless> then you mount it, chroot into it
[05:16] <cthulfuego> ilba7r: The CPU overheating has nothing to do with ram and everything with a broken fan.
[05:16] <lifeless> i.e. mount /dev/hda3 /mnt
[05:16] <lifeless> chroot /mnt
[05:16] <yzero> okay
[05:16] <ilba7r> cthulfuego i checked its using too much memory compared to mepis which i used to run here too. And am not talking about cache mem
[05:16] <oofnik> ilba7r: haha.. thats not good.. cthulfuego got it
[05:16] <lifeless> and then edit menu.lst etc
[05:16] <lifeless> when its all ready, run grub-install /dev/hda
[05:16] <oofnik> how big is your swap partition?
[05:16] <lifeless> to rewrite the mbr
[05:16] <cthulfuego> ilba7r: I can't -guess_ what you're talking about unless you give me actual numbers.
[05:16] <yzero> awesome i will try that
[05:16] <yzero> thanks
[05:16] <lifeless> np
[05:17] <cthulfuego> ilba7r: I have no idea what Mepis does and what it runs, so I also have no idea what its ram usage is like.
[05:17] <ilba7r> cthulfuego lol thats another problem shouldn't it be the same when i run window for the cpu never heat up when i use window
[05:18] <oofnik> anybody want to help me out with samba?
[05:18] <dabar> not me...
[05:18] <cthulfuego> ilba7r: Nevertheless, overheating is caused by faulty hardware, not Linux.
[05:18] <ilba7r> the ram is now 48% in use 48% cash and am running amarok, gaim evolution on a pc of 512 MB RAM
[05:18] <yzero> bbiab
[05:19] <cthulfuego> ilba7r: yes. That's bad how?
[05:19] <cthulfuego> ilba7r: if you don't want it to use the ram, pull the DIMM out.
[05:19] <oofnik> samba won't let me share anything out of my home directory... i don't know what to do about this
[05:19] <ilba7r> cthulfuego what you mean by putt the DIMM out?
[05:20] <dabar> hehe
[05:20] <dabar> he means take the memory stick out of your comp
[05:20] <dabar> phisycally.
[05:20] <cthulfuego> ilba7r: if you want Linux to not use your ram, take it out of the machine.
[05:20] <dabar> not spelled like that...
[05:20] <ilba7r> by the way i am not a linux expert but i can see a problem when i run a certain disto and have problems running another
[05:20] <ilba7r> smart ass
[05:20] <dabar> cthulfuego: you did not get the point, his comp shuts down...
[05:21] <cthulfuego> ilba7r: it's using it because it's there. The moment it needs it for an application, it will flush the cache and re-use it as application ram. This does NOT make it slow.
[05:21] <ilba7r> any way i am not gona argue stupid arguments i like ubuntu i thought this might be a problem that needed to be looked into
[05:21] <cthulfuego> dabar: I don't see what using 48% of ram as cache has to do with a cpu overheating.
[05:21] <hondje> hahaha, this ol' troll? :-)
[05:21] <dabar> I can not agree or agree, cthulfuego, cause I dont know, but I think that is his issue...his comp shutting down.
[05:21] <oofnik> sometimes memory leaks go together with high CPU usage..?
[05:22] <cthulfuego> dabar: Yes, and my response was "broken hardware"
[05:22] <dabar> cthulfuego: ok, then good. It works in windows, but I seen that b4...
[05:22] <cthulfuego> oofnik: ~ 230Mb for Gnome/X is normal
[05:22] <ilba7r> and my answer was cthulfugo broken hardware will be broken on all operating sys not ubuntu in particular
[05:23] <cthulfuego> ilba7r: Well, then I can't help you further until you give me more specific info.
[05:23] <dabar> ilba7r: Ive seenn cases where it was not like that, ask metalsand....:))
[05:23] <Razor-X> ilba7r: why is using 48 % RAM and cache unusual?
[05:23] <r2d4> My tv tuner card is not being detected. What should I do?
[05:23] <ilba7r> ok dabar than ctulguego
[05:23] <funky> hi
[05:23] <KillerSmurf> hello all i'm trying to do a chmod command.... what flags should I set for only user and root to rwx but not others?
[05:23] <Razor-X> cthulfuego: I haven't seen the vice versa of that yet ;)
[05:23] <crimsun> ilba7r: you do know that Linux caches aggressively, correctly? Normal usage means that nearly ALL of your physically free RAM will disappear.
[05:23] <dabar> Yo, fuinky.
[05:23] <ilba7r> for you who asked why i think it is unusual simply because when i run more programs this ratio does not change
[05:24] <Razor-X> KillerSmurf: what do you want the other users to have?
[05:24] <ilba7r> running 2 3 or 4 applications it is using the same ratio of the mem
[05:24] <cthulfuego> Razor-X: WIndows was OK on a box with an error in the high ram area here, linux did poo on it...
[05:24] <Razor-X> ilba7r: if somethin nulls the cache, it's still uses part of it
[05:24] <crimsun> ilba7r: don't be misled by the reporting of a tiny fraction of free physical RAM. That is NORMAL and expected.
[05:24] <dabar> ilba7r: please concentrate on what you want to have done at the end of the convo...
[05:24] <dabar> best way to get it done...
[05:24] <Razor-X> cthulfuego: hmmm? as far as i've seen, Linux behaves better on bad RAM than Windows does...
[05:25] <HrdwrBoB> ok, to solve this, run free -m
[05:25] <ilba7r> ok my problem the main one is that the pc shutts down unexpectdly while i am working
[05:25] <crimsun> ilba7r: for instance, take a look at the ,,free -m'' output and concentrate on the +/- buffers line
[05:25] <cthulfuego> Razor-X: yes, it surprised me too... but there ya go :-)
[05:25] <ditto> can someone maybe help change my screen resolution
[05:25] <ilba7r> i thought it might be overheating
[05:25] <ilba7r> ok
[05:25] <dabar> !resolution
[05:25] <ubotu> somebody said resolution was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:26] <dabar> ok, give information about the issue, what comp, what install, what whatever you think is relevant...
[05:26] <Razor-X> !log[-1] 
[05:26] <ubotu> Razor-X: Are you smoking crack?
[05:26] <cthulfuego> !wiki FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:26] <Razor-X> what kind of bot can't calculate log -1?!
[05:26] <Razor-X> that there's a _useless_ bot ;)
[05:26] <dabar> what base?
[05:26] <cthulfuego> Razor-X: I think I disabled math.pl
[05:27] <dabar> thats why it told you your on crack...
[05:27] <dabar> + it knows..
[05:27] <Razor-X> dabar: ...........
[05:27] <dabar> but, the bot is funny how it encourages drug abuse...
[05:27] <Razor-X> in all higher math log is implicit base e
[05:27] <Tenniru_> Um, I'm having issues with my AirPort card.
[05:27] <dabar> Are you smoking crack? cause if youre not, I know this one guy....
[05:28] <dabar> airport extreme?
[05:28] <Tenniru_> I enter the SSID and WEP into the Network app and yet it still doesn't connect.
[05:28] <Tenniru_> No, the normal one.
[05:28] <Tenniru_> I think Ubuntu is trying to use the password I entered in ASCII, when the passwords is in hex.
[05:28] <ilba7r> thanks everyone for your help
[05:28] <Davey> Tenniru_: enter the pass key
[05:28] <Tenniru_> into the thing in the Network app?
[05:28] <lifeless> Tenniru_: if you have a string, entere it as s:password
[05:29] <Davey> Tenniru_: I believe so, I have never gotten it working, I tried today but didn't try that and my sysadmin at work said that might try
[05:29] <dabar> well, youre welcome, you did not get any yet, I think.
[05:29] <Davey> s/try/work
[05:29] <Tenniru_> That's what I've been trying.
[05:29] <dabar> nalioth what time is it there where you are?
[05:30] <dylan_> nailoth is zzzzz
[05:30] <dabar> thanks
[05:31] <hondje> why can't I edit that video resolution wiki?
[05:31] <oofnik> anybody know why samba won't let me share anything out of my home dir? if anyone knows i'd appreciate some help on this.. thanks
[05:32] <dabar> oofnik read the wiki?
[05:32] <dylan_> So - anybody able to think of a reason that after Ubuntu installs the GRUB chains into the ntbootloader just fine but my XP 64 and Win2k crash out of a safemode boot?
[05:33] <oofnik> yeah dabar i've been looking at it, i've changed most everything in my smb.conf and it won't do squat
[05:33] <dabar> allowed permissions for teh samba yuser?
[05:33] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to change gtk1 themes in ubuntu, without wrecking the gtk2 theme?
[05:33] <dabar> I reaslly kno nothing about uit...
[05:33] <oofnik> yeah i did that in swat i think
[05:34] <beavis> i need help ....
[05:34] <bur[n] er> yeah?
[05:34] <bur[n] er> con que?
[05:34] <beavis> my network icon says i'm disconnected .. but i can log in to the internet .. why's that ?
[05:34] <bur[n] er> the network icon is pointed to a different device?
[05:35] <gm78> Does anyone here have problems with the Firefox bundled with Ubuntu Hoary? I am having numerous problems. The biggest one is it won't open numerous webpages. www.lxer.com is one such example. It just stops loading after the page is half up. Opera works fine. Anyone else notice these problems?
[05:35] <bur[n] er> ie eth0 when you really use eth1 ?
[05:35] <bur[n] er> gm78: no probs here
[05:35] <beavis> so i have to check that in some config file ?
[05:35] <beavis> where's that ?
[05:35] <bur[n] er> beavis: right click the icon?
[05:35] <oofnik> gm78 did you try to reinstall the firefox package?
[05:36] <beavis> yeah . i clicked on properties .. and noticed that there are two selections available ...
[05:36] <beavis> eth0 and lo
[05:37] <beavis> if i choose eth0 .. it says disconnected. . but i can still use the internet
[05:37] <beavis> but if i use lo ... it says connected
[05:37] <concept10_> bur[n] er, what app are you trying to change gtk1 theme?
[05:37] <bur[n] er> lo == loopback == home == 127.0.0.1
[05:37] <bur[n] er> concept10_: that's my questino ;)
[05:37] <gm78> bur[n] er: oh, never mind, opera isnt working now. I think its my useless router. I tried both Opera and firefox, wouldnt work. So I hooked my pc right up to my cable modem, bypassing the router, and tried opera, and it worked (never tried firefox, probably should have). then i rehooked back up to the router, and opera worked (probably reading from cache) and firefox still didnt. so i cleared opera's cache, and it isnt working again. Why would
[05:37] <bur[n] er> i was gonna try gtk-theme-switch, i used to use that, but it messed up gtk2 themes
[05:37] <gm78> oofnik: numerous times :P
[05:38] <iratsu> does anyone have problems uploading m4a files to an ipod in gtkpod?
[05:38] <bur[n] er> heh, gotcha gm78
[05:38] <bur[n] er> good luck
[05:38] <oofnik> gm78.. always got to ask the obvious you know, haha
[05:38] <gm78> oofnik: lol, yeah, i know
[05:38] <gm78> bur[n] er: i think my next step is take a hammer and smash the router into pieces :P stupid piece of junk
[05:38] <Razor-X> my emacs binds are set! ;)
[05:39] <beavis> bur[n] er: how can i fix that ?
[05:39] <oofnik> haha perhaps that might help.. you said it works when connected directly through the cable modem gm78?
[05:39] <concept10_> bur[n] er, are you trying to change thems with the theme app in the system menu?
[05:39] <bur[n] er> beavis: don't be dumb? ;)
[05:40] <bur[n] er> your router work with other machines?
[05:40] <gm78> oofnik: works fine, never had a problem with the router before a few days ago too. this has me baffled
[05:40] <bur[n] er> dhcp not working?
[05:40] <bur[n] er> can you ping locally?
[05:40] <bur[n] er> connect to the router?
[05:40] <oofnik> it's not a linksys is it?
[05:40] <bur[n] er> restart router?
[05:40] <bur[n] er> reset router?
[05:40] <bur[n] er> etc
[05:40] <bur[n] er> there's about a million ways to start this troubleshooting
[05:42] <oofnik> hm.. so nobody has experience with samba in here?
[05:43] <gm78> oofnik: sorry, zoned out, i use it a bit, u having problems with it?
[05:43] <Razor-X> outhoeuth
[05:43] <Razor-X> errrgg!
[05:43] <Razor-X> sorry for that
[05:43] <gm78> bur[n] er: hey, im resetting my router....so i might disconnect for a second, ill let you know tho
[05:45] <Razor-X> i'll bet I can type 'aoeu' faster than most people here
[05:45] <Razor-X> ;)
[05:45] <caonex> lately, i have been noticing that my X11 is terminated and I am left out in the console and whenever i press CTRL + F7 to go back to X, my ubuntu box just freezes up and i have to do a hard restart (pressing the button) because nothing else will work, any ideas?
[05:45] <regeya> oh boy a dvorak fanboy
[05:46] <Razor-X> regeya: maybe you shouldn't speak so soon... Linux flaunter
[05:46] <regeya> Razor-X: FOOL!  I can type 'asdf' FAR faster!
[05:46] <NathanHome> caonex, haven't had that problem but if i find myself stuck at console i login and run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[05:46] <dylan_> <--- fastest homerow in the West
[05:46] <Razor-X> of course you can! but there's no use.... f is a stupid key anyways
[05:46] <Razor-X> it's used much less often than aoeu id htns ;)
[05:46] <hondje> hah, I can type 
[05:47] <caonex> NathanHome, i know that, i did not have the chance to use it though....
[05:47] <brendan_> How do you eject a cd?
[05:47] <dylan_> ooo
[05:47] <caonex> NathanHome, i actually like doing killall -1 gdm
[05:47] <brendan_> I tried right clicking and saying eject
[05:47] <brendan_> But it said device busy
[05:47] <dylan_> nownow hondje.  That was Korean.  Ninja were Japanese.
[05:47] <Razor-X> brendan_: eject -f /dev/device IIRC
[05:47] <NathanHome> caeonex; i only mention it because sometimes i'll press ctrl+alt+backspace to kill X and it doesnt restart
[05:47] <Razor-X> hondje: Korean is just impolite Japanese ;)
[05:48] <dylan_> rofl
[05:48] <hondje> dylan_: oh yeah, 
[05:48] <kakalto> ,_,
[05:48] <NathanHome> brendan_, 'device busy' means you have a program or folder open thats using the cd
[05:48] <brendan_> Yes
[05:48] <hondje> Razor-X: Say that to a korean, and then run fast :)
[05:48] <brendan_> Its installing something
[05:48] <Razor-X> hondje: I know, I know ;)
[05:48] <brendan_> I need to insert disc two
[05:48] <dylan_> Speaking of which - how do I set up Japanese IME in Ubuntu?
[05:49] <Razor-X> dylan_: it's in the Ubuntu guide
[05:49] <dylan_> ookies
[05:49] <hondje> it is?
[05:49] <brendan_> Yes it is
[05:49] <Razor-X> mmmmhmmm ;)
[05:49] <Razor-X> I have to get my arse to work on my compendium of Algebra II knowledge
[05:49] <NathanHome> brendan_, thats a tricky one :)  normally you'd just kill off whatever process is using the cd, but i guess thatn's not desirable
[05:49] <Razor-X> psshh, htis course is so easy, it's not even funny
[05:49] <Razor-X> *this
[05:49] <brendan_> ><
[05:49] <hondje> dylan_: I used http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[05:50] <oofnik> hey gm78 sorry i was trying stuff.. hah yeah i'm having a problem with samba
[05:50] <oofnik> i can't share anything that's not in my home dir without errors
[05:51] <Razor-X> damn... when will my Calc book come >_<
[05:51] <Razor-X> how long does it take to come.... erggggg!
[05:52] <levander> Is there some utility I can run to stress my processor? Like Prime95 under Windows?
[05:53] <gm78> bur[n] er: hey, no luck....im getting ever closer to grabbing the hammer =P
[05:53] <gm78> bur[n] er: which makes me mad. I always used to prefer SMC routers
[05:53] <Razor-X> my Netgear works like a charm
[05:54] <sknroiws_> !faq
[05:54] <ubotu> methinks faq is Frequently Asked Questions you can check it out from here ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
[05:54] <Razor-X> gm78: you don't have to buy a router, ya know
[05:54] <gm78> Razor-X: I have 3 computers and 1 cable modem though
[05:54] <SogniX> how do I get ubuntu to detect my video card? I installed a new video card and now I can't get into X :(
[05:55] <levander> Apparently, prime95 has been ported to linux.  Anybody know the package name for it?
[05:55] <KillerSmurf> anyone know an alt for EasyGPS(winapp) for Linux?
[05:55] <gm78> SogniX: What kind of video card did u have before and after?
[05:55] <SogniX> it was an integrated one...
[05:55] <niran> SogniX, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:55] <niran> i think.
[05:55] <Razor-X> gm78: and?
[05:55] <Razor-X> you still need to buy a router?
[05:55] <Razor-X> psshh, I wouldn't ;)
[05:55] <gm78> Razor-X: well they all need to have internet access, what else should i do?
[05:56] <gm78> i guess....i could build a router....but i dont have room for another cheap pc
[05:56] <KillerSmurf> If I left read flags on can people copy the file(other users)?
[05:56] <oofnik> gm78 you still up for helping me with samba? :-D
[05:56] <Razor-X> gm78: cheap PC
[05:56] <gm78> SogniX: What kind of vid card did u buy (please dont say ATI =P)
[05:56] <Razor-X> or, convert a usable one to a router
[05:57] <Razor-X> or, go fish for one at a donation store
[05:57] <SogniX> it's asking me about the bus identifier for it - showing:  PCI:1:0:0
[05:57] <SogniX> but I have an AGP one
[05:57] <gm78> oofnik: yeah, sorry, as you can see my router is a piece of junk which is why i keep disconnecting =P what problems u having?
[05:57] <SogniX> I enter AGP and it complained :/
[05:57] <SogniX> gm78 - I didn't buy it, I already had it in anothoer computer. :p  nvidia :)
[05:58] <gm78> SogniX: if im not mistaken linux sees AGP devices as PCI devices, which is why lspci will show an agp device
[05:58] <Razor-X> gm78: use a box as a router, an upside is you get traffic sharing
[05:58] <NathanHome> yeh PCI:1:0:0 is how linux identifies agp device
[05:58] <gm78> Razor-X: i have absolutely no room for another pc tho......if i make room, would an old 386/486 (not sure what it is, one of the 2) work?
[05:59] <niran> SogniX, type lspci
[05:59] <niran> SogniX, find the right card, and use that address
[05:59] <gm78> oofnik: start a private chat with me, i have too many going in this window, cant keep up =)
[06:00] <kangpeh> breezy still not use
[06:00] <kangpeh> o-o
[06:00] <gm78> SogniX: you might want to install the nvidia drivers first, they are available through apt
[06:00] <Razor-X> gm78: yes it would
[06:00] <Razor-X> in fact, old 486's are common routers
[06:00] <niran> SogniX, the address is in hex, but X wants it in decimal
[06:00] <gm78> Razor-X: It doesn't have Network cards tho
[06:00] <niran> SogniX, so make sure you convert it
[06:01] <gm78> Razor-X: before i start going out and buying network cards or another router....have u ever heard of problems like mine with a router?
[06:01] <niran> configuring a new graphics card shouldn't be this hard.
[06:01] <SogniX> X is starting! :D
[06:01] <niran> awesome.
[06:01] <Razor-X> gm78: more often than I can shake a stick at
[06:01] <SogniX> thanks
[06:01] <niran> no proble,
[06:01] <niran> m
[06:02] <gm78> Razor-X: wouldnt i need 4 network cards in a cheap pc
[06:02] <niran> SogniX, if it's an nvidia card and you want 3D, install the nvidia drivers
[06:02] <gm78> SogniX: they are available through apt
[06:02] <gm78> SogniX: search for nvidia in synaptic
[06:02] <SogniX> how do I find them? just apt-get nvidia?
[06:02] <SogniX> ok
[06:02] <Razor-X> gm78: how fast is the machine you want to router-ize?
[06:03] <niran> sudo apt-get install nvidia glx SogniX
[06:03] <Razor-X> gm78: and why 4 network cards?
[06:03] <Razor-X> my old pc has a network card I bought for $10 or $15... IIRC
[06:03] <saruany> hello
[06:03] <NathanHome> i assume you mean versus the 4 ports your router has
[06:03] <saruany> is there any girls here
[06:03] <niran> there should be a dash in there
[06:03] <niran> nvidia-glx
[06:04] <skel_> whats the command to kill wine
[06:04] <skel_> Its frozen my pc
[06:04] <roger21> hello
[06:04] <Razor-X> saruany: this isn't a sex channel
[06:04] <saruany> hi
[06:04] <gm78> Razor-X: never used it before...so im not sure. how would i share an internet connection with 3 other pcs without 4 network cards. it was a windows 3.1 machine though, so ill just say old =P
[06:04] <roger21> what is the ubuntu user paswword on the live-cd please
[06:04] <niran> skel, killall -9 wine
[06:04] <Razor-X> gm78: well, they use the other machine as a gateway
[06:04] <djs> roger21: there is none but you can set it
[06:05] <niran> skel, use tab completion after you type wine in case that's not the exact name of the binary
[06:05] <skel_> that u very much
[06:05] <saruany> who said it was
[06:05] <Razor-X> gm78: leave the thinking to me :), my only payment is thanks
[06:05] <oofnik> gm78 heres the link: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/191
[06:05] <oofnik> to my smb.conf
[06:05] <Razor-X> saruany: I said it wasn't a sex channel, and I stand by my claim
[06:05] <saruany> what if i dont want to talk to a guy about things
[06:05] <roger21> djs, hmmm, i'm in xscreensaver, how i come out
[06:06] <djs> roger21: <ctrl><alt>F2   then   "sudo passwd ubuntu"
[06:06] <roger21> oh, of course, thanks
[06:06] <djs> roger21:  then <ctrl><alt>F7   and use the fresh p/w to unlock
[06:06] <Razor-X> saruany: then I think you're being sexist
[06:06] <djs> roger21: np
[06:06] <niran> roger21, there should be a simpler way than that...
[06:06] <niran> roger21, try typing ubuntu for the password in xscreensaver
[06:07] <saruany> no why i dont like to talk to guys about sertine things
[06:07] <Razor-X> saruany: do you use Ubuntu, or Linux?
[06:07] <Razor-X> if you don't, please leave
[06:07] <Razor-X> quickly, or i'll remove the 'please'
[06:07] <gm78> Razor-X: the old pc is my last resort tho....i would have to reorganize my entire office to make room....or else leave it sitting on the floor
[06:07] <saruany> both
[06:07] <djs> niran: doesn't work - it's a known issue
[06:07] <roger21> niran, no it doesn't work
[06:08] <niran> djs, roger21 oh, oops
[06:08] <levander> there is anyway to tell linux to explicitly run this process on this processor on an SMP system?
[06:08] <Razor-X> saruany: then ask for help, but, not many women will help you
[06:08] <KillerSmurf> is there a way to open the gnome file browser with sudo?
[06:08] <Razor-X> gm78: hmmm, ok
[06:08] <levander> KillerSmurf: sudo nautilus
[06:08] <NathanHome> sudo nautilus
[06:09] <KillerSmurf> u rock
[06:09] <niran> KillerSmurf, run application: "gksudo 'nautilus --no-desktop'"
[06:09] <saruany> ok but can i ask u if u want to hear somthing i think is or might be yrue
[06:09] <saruany> true*
[06:10] <Razor-X> saruany: shoot
[06:10] <gm78> Razor-X: Is there any settings on a router that could cause problems like these, i can still access the router through a webbrowser and configure it
[06:10] <saruany> lies are just ideas we have not used yet
[06:10] <saruany> so what do u think
[06:10] <NathanHome> gm78, it sounds like 'anti-hax' protection to me
[06:10] <saruany> done yet*
[06:11] <gm78> NathanHome: i have the firewall shut off on it tho
[06:11] <Razor-X> gm78: i'm not sure, because settings change from router-to-router, but, 9 times out of 10, it's router failure of some sort
[06:11] <Razor-X> saruany: well, the very definition of lie is something that is intrue
[06:11] <Razor-X> if a condition satisfied implies truth, than the unsatisfaction of that principle implies lie
[06:11] <Razor-X> it's as simple as that, really
[06:11] <saruany> but i might really do the "lie" somtime in ur life
[06:12] <Razor-X> huh+
[06:12] <NathanHome> gm78, in that situation, i'd try to devise some sort of tests to confirm if the router is at fault
[06:12] <Razor-X> *huh?
[06:12] <saruany> it is intrue cuase u have not done it yet
[06:12] <Razor-X> gm78: I concur with NathanHome
[06:12] <rj-away> levander: Something which uses http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man2/sched_getaffinity.2.html probably exists somewhere... set affinity, then execve() off the real process.
[06:12] <NathanHome> gm78, for example rapidly downloading http pages from somewhere, perhaps with curl or wget
[06:12] <fr500> hello
[06:12] <saruany> hi
[06:13] <Razor-X> saruany: so, are you saying it's a lie that humans cannot fly using organic compounds that have developed without hindrance or enhancement in the human body?
[06:13] <bob2> this seems kinda off-topic
[06:13] <fr500> hello
[06:13] <bob2> take it elsewhere, please
[06:13] <Razor-X> bob2: tell him that *shrugs*
[06:13] <NathanHome> gm78, i'd also try ftp or something else to ensure your ISP isn't stuffing up web connections somehow
[06:13] <fr500> a question, i installed samba with apt-get samba, but it wont start auomatically on boot
[06:13] <fr500> does anyone know why?
[06:13] <bob2> I'm telling you both :-)
[06:13] <Razor-X> bob2: ok ;)
[06:14] <Razor-X> gm78: true that, generally the people i've talked to have done tests to show that the router is at fault
[06:14] <saruany> yes the human might continue to evolve over a lone period of time but  we are not sure yet and it is a lie until it will happen
[06:14] <saruany> can anyone else se what im wriiting or just u
[06:14] <niran> saruany, just him
[06:14] <Razor-X> saruany: everyone else can
[06:15] <Razor-X> niran: ;)
[06:15] <NathanHome> i cant
[06:15] <david__> hello
[06:15] <saruany> ok kool
[06:15] <fr500> also, after starting it manually with smbd, i can't access my ubuntu pc by it's hostname, only by ip address
[06:15] <NathanHome> i find mental spam blockers to be the best technology going
[06:15] <saruany> so if i say hi to david he cat see it
[06:15] <Razor-X> saruany: evolution is considered a biological change, a lie can only be considered a lie at the very time at which it's deemed a 'lie', and unless you PM me, that's the end of my input
[06:15] <Razor-X> saruany: yes, he can, this is a chatroom.... -_-
[06:16] <Razor-X> *change over time
[06:16] <saruany> pm?
[06:16] <Razor-X> Private Message
[06:16] <NathanHome> fr500, do you have an /etc/init.d/samba file?
[06:16] <gm78> Razor-X: Alright, so just use wget to download the webpages that im having problems with?
[06:16] <fr500> NathanHome, yes
[06:16] <saruany> im saying it is a lie untill u  do it then its not a lie right
[06:16] <stevenj> are the Ubuntu backports the best (only) way to install win32 codecs?
[06:16] <gm78> Razor-X: I'm also going to upgrade the firmware
[06:16] <saruany> whats PM?
[06:16] <stevenj> I was told not to use backports
[06:17] <david__> anybody in here know how I can use KDE instead of GNOME?
[06:17] <hondje> yeah, backports are bad
[06:17] <NathanHome> fr500, i'd check its symlinked in /etc/rc2.d
[06:17] <Razor-X> gm78: that too
[06:17] <stevenj> hondje, how to do I get win32 codecs then?
[06:17] <Razor-X> saruany: /msg Razor-X blah
[06:17] <fr500> NathanHome, does a red filename mean a link?
[06:17] <Razor-X> that sends me the message 'blah' so that _only_ I can see it
[06:17] <saruany> ok?
[06:17] <NathanHome> fr500, in nautilus?
[06:18] <hondje> stevenj: go to mplayer's website, download the codecs, put them in /usr/lib/win32
[06:18] <NathanHome> stevenj, i use the marillat repository but i guess thats probably on the 'bad' list too
[06:18] <fr500> nope, i went to console
[06:18] <niran> david__, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:18] <saruany> read my 3 respones afer this one
[06:18] <NathanHome> fr500, in my console symlinks are light blue (cyan)
[06:18] <niran> david__, then select kde from the gdm session dialog
[06:18] <david__> thanks niran...i am getting a package error with konversation
[06:18] <fr500> NathanHome, it's linked wrong, that will fix the first part
[06:18] <niran> david__, what's the error?
[06:18] <gm78> Razor-X: alright, im going to be logging off for a few since i have to reboot the router...ill let u know if it works
[06:19] <david__> just a sec
[06:19] <stevenj> hondje, thanks..but I'm new what do I type to copy codecs to folder in terminal thanks
[06:19] <david__> unmet dependencies...broken package
[06:19] <niran> hmm... that's odd
[06:19] <niran> do you have any unofficial repositories enabled?
[06:19] <NathanHome> fr500, the other bit was something about  name resolution ?
[06:19] <saruany> hey raxor x why is ur name light on the right
[06:19] <hondje> stevenj: cp <source> <destination>
[06:19] <fr500> NathanHome, yes, after running smbd it works
[06:19] <Razor-X> saruany: because i'm addressing you by prepending your name to the left
[06:20] <fr500> NathanHome, but only by ip
[06:20] <Razor-X> gm78: yeah, and i'll start my research
[06:20] <david__> hmm...what are the official ones...i just installed ubuntu over mandrake
[06:20] <fr500> NathanHome, but it's weird, my ubuntu pc can see my other pcs by name, but the other ones can't see my ubuntu pc by name
[06:20] <david__> i used to use easyurpmi to set all that up ;)
[06:20] <saruany> ok kool
[06:20] <unome> ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net (66.90.101.204) is down?
[06:20] <NathanHome> fr500, 'by name' are you referring to using windows networking?
[06:20] <saruany> this is just a help chat room right
[06:20] <fr500> NathanHome, yes, netbios names
[06:20] <niran> fr500, go to system->administration->shared folders
[06:21] <hondje> yes, just help
[06:21] <saruany> brb
[06:21] <niran> fr500, click add, then general sharing settings
[06:21] <Razor-X> saruany: yeah, help only
[06:21] <saruany> ok kool
[06:21] <fr500> niran, all that is done, thanks, i'm not that noob
[06:21] <fr500> niran, sharing works just fine, but only by ip
[06:21] <niran> fr500, the workgroup is the right one?
[06:21] <NathanHome> fr500, i believe nmbd is responsible for that
[06:21] <rj-away> fr500: Are you using swat?
[06:21] <NathanHome> not, smbd
[06:21] <fr500> rj-away, nope
[06:21] <rj-away> fr500: It's a nice browser-based samba config tool.
[06:21] <fr500> NathanHome, i'll check, but i never had issues before
[06:22] <NathanHome> fr500, i dont believe i've ever had it work without nmbd
[06:22] <rj-away> Also tracks the running of samba, open shares, open files, etc.
[06:22] <fr500> NathanHome, i don't remember setting anything about nmbd ever
[06:22] <niran> NathanHome, fr500, it works for me and all i ever installed was the samba package
[06:22] <rj-away> Seems to make setting samba up a simpler process.
[06:22] <niran> then again, i didn't have the init.d symlink problem either
[06:22] <fr500> rj-away, the thing is i made my own config file that worked in every distro (including this) fine, but this time around something went wrong
[06:23] <rj-away> nmbd is part of the samba package, afaik.
[06:23] <saruany> ok kool thanx i love u guys are kool
[06:23] <NathanHome> rj-away, yeh i believe so
[06:23] <gm78> Razor-X: can u go to this webpage   http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=downloads.doSearchCriteria&localeCode=EN_CAN&knowsPartNumber=false&productCategory=1&userPartNumber=&modelNumber=924&partNumber=2400&downloadType=2&os=12   and let me know which driver firmware to download....the newer one (latest release date) is a much smaller download and has a lower version number
[06:23] <fr500> NathanHome, nmbd wasn't neccesarry, samba at startup fixed it, maybe it takes long to get the names right if not don on bootup or something
[06:23] <fr500> Tanks everyone
[06:24] <fr500> thanks i mean
[06:24] <NathanHome> fr500, sweet - i wonder what nmbd actually does then :)
[06:24] <fr500> yeah
[06:24] <KillerSmurf> Hey RazorX have a min?
[06:24] <saruany> i love u raxor x
[06:24] <Razor-X> KillerSmurf: shoot
[06:24] <Razor-X> gm78: hmmm... model number?
[06:25] <Spermy> i have a little fast question
[06:25] <gm78> Razor-X: lol...ill grab the info, brb (router in other room)
[06:25] <Spermy> why cant i load enlightenment from the gnome session listing?
[06:25] <saruany> i love u
[06:25] <saruany>  ilove u
[06:25] <rj-away> nmbd does do the name resolution stuff...
[06:25] <saruany> l love u
[06:25] <saruany>  i love
[06:26] <Razor-X> ..................
[06:26] <rj-away> But, in the absence of it, another machine using SMB will fill the role.
[06:26] <saruany> yes u i love u
[06:26] <fr500> rj-away, got it, thanks
[06:26] <saruany> razor x
[06:26] <Spermy> dosent know how to answer that question/
[06:26] <saruany> ok by
[06:26] <jasmuz> Spermy: what are you trying to do?
[06:26] <niran> Razor-X, well that was itneresting.
[06:26] <fr500> niran, thanks too
[06:26] <niran> you sure have an effect on people.
[06:27] <rj-away> I believe there's a process of 'elections' between participating machines, such that pretty much the latest version of windows on the network will become the name mapper, but you can give nmbd a value such that it appears to be the more-recent-than-the-latest-windows.
[06:27] <Spermy> i'm tring to load enlightenment
[06:27] <niran> fr500, no problem
[06:27] <Razor-X> niran: it seems so
[06:27] <NathanHome> rj-away, ah ok
[06:27] <Razor-X> i'm bisexual, so don't hold that against me XD
[06:27] <gm78> Razor-X: Model number is smc7004vbr  and the part number is 751.0113
[06:27] <Spermy> jasmuz,  its not showing under the session listing in gnome.
[06:27] <Razor-X> thanks gm78
[06:27] <gm78> Razor-X: no, thank you =P
[06:27] <Razor-X> but I don't hit on loser
[06:27] <Razor-X> ;)
[06:27] <gm78> Razor-X: lol, meant to put a =) not a =P
[06:27] <niran> Razor-X, even so, from first sight to professions of love in five minutes? impressive.
[06:27] <NathanHome> fr500, you were right - the  windows pc here can see my ubuntu pc, and i dont ahve nmbd running either
[06:28] <jasmuz> Spermy: did you download the packages from synaptic?
[06:28] <Spermy> and gnome is not letting play music in xmms
[06:28] <fr500> oks
[06:28] <Razor-X> niran: I guess... I have a way with men?
[06:28] <Spermy> jasmuz, nope lol
[06:28] <Razor-X> (I still prefer women, though)
[06:28] <gm78> Spermy: killall esd
[06:28] <gm78> Spermy: under preferences and multimedia systems selector, change input and output to alsa and run killall esd everytime u log in (under preferences and sessions, u can have this done by default)
[06:29] <Spermy> gm78 yeah?
[06:29] <gm78> Spermy: automatically, not by default i mean
[06:29] <Spermy> gm78 what do i change it to?
[06:29] <crimsun> why killall esd? Simply uncheck System>Preferences>Sound>Enable sound server startup
[06:30] <gm78> Razor-X: which file do u think i should try, kinda scared of breaking my router (which is weird, i felt like smashing it a second ago =P)
[06:31] <ezili> hello hello
[06:32] <ezili> i'm having a problem with my digital camera.
[06:32] <ezili> i can only access it as root.
[06:32] <KillerSmurf> can u change permissions on a FAT32 drive?
[06:33] <Razor-X> gm78: hold on, sorry ;)
[06:33] <gm78> Razor-X: oh, no prob....sorry for being impatient, im like that =
[06:33] <Razor-X> gm78: part number?
[06:33] <Razor-X> no no, i'm not paying enough attention ;)
[06:34] <Mejobloggs> how do i start a service?
[06:34] <gm78> Razor-X: well when u go to smc's main webpage and to their download section, u have to give a part number and a model number.  model#=smc7004vbr  and part#=751.0113
[06:35] <jasmuz> Mejobloggs: sudo /etc/init.d/servicename
[06:35] <Mejobloggs> thanks
[06:36] <hyphenated> KillerSmurf: you can set the default permissions when you mount it, but permission changes aren't stored anywhere, because it's not a filesystem type that knows anything about permissions
[06:36] <gm78> Mejobloggs: sudo /etc/init.d/servicename start   works for me. to stop it it is sudo /etc/init.d/servicename stop
[06:36] <Razor-X> gm78: http://www.smc.com/files/AB/FW_SMC7004VBRV2_R108.zip
[06:36] <jasmuz> Mejobloggs: sudo /etc/init.d/servicename start
[06:36] <gm78> Razor-X: is that the one with the latest release date?
[06:37] <Razor-X> gm78: latest version
[06:37] <Razor-X> and release date
[06:37] <KillerSmurf> hyphenated right now I can even get into the drive.... playing too much with chmod.
[06:38] <Mejobloggs> its not working guys
[06:38] <KillerSmurf> hyphenated right now I can even get into the drive.... playing too much with chmod What if I changed the fstab ...
[06:39] <jasmuz> Mejobloggs: sudo /etc/init.d/servicename start
[06:39] <Mejobloggs> yeah
[06:39] <Mejobloggs> it doesnt say anything
[06:39] <jasmuz> Mejobloggs: what service are you trying to run?
[06:39] <Mejobloggs> apache2
[06:39] <gm78> Razor-X: alright, sorry for being a nag, but u made sure it was the right part number? =P (im paranoid
[06:39] <gm78> )
[06:39] <NathanHome> Mejobloggs, many services wont say anything unless there's an error
[06:40] <Mejobloggs> ok, but BUM says it is not started
[06:40] <jasmuz> Mejobloggs: you can start it with BUM
[06:40] <Mejobloggs> yeah, but doesnt work
[06:40] <NathanHome> Mejobloggs, does "pgrep apache2" say anything?
[06:40] <Mejobloggs> i set it to start with the computer too
[06:40] <Razor-X> gm78: yes yes ;) backup your old firmware, if need be
[06:41] <gm78> Razor-X: lol, thx for your help...ill be back in a few to let u know how it went
[06:41] <Mejobloggs> pgrep apache2 doesnt say anything
[06:41] <jasmuz> Mejobloggs: open a console and do a ls /etc/init.d  to check if you have apache there
[06:41] <skel_> I have 2 Drives a Cd and a Dvd drive.. I only see my DvD drive in my computer when something is in it.. Why cant i see it when there is no media in it?
[06:41] <ditto> gm78 can i msg you again?
[06:42] <Mejobloggs> apache 2 shows up when i do  ls /etc/init.d
[06:43] <KillerSmurf> is there an apt-get emacs package?
[06:43] <NathanHome> Mejobloggs,  do you see the " * Starting web server (Apache2)..." line when you do sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start ?
[06:43] <Mejobloggs> no
[06:43] <Mejobloggs> it does nothing
[06:43] <jasmuz> Mejobloggs: do a sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[06:44] <Mejobloggs> does it matter if i am already logged in as root?
[06:44] <Mejobloggs> restart does nothing either
[06:44] <NathanHome> Mejobloggs, check out /etc/default/apache2
[06:44] <NathanHome> (and make sure NO_START=0 )
[06:44] <Mejobloggs> how do i 'check it out' ?
[06:44] <NathanHome> cat, vi, gedit - any text viewer/editor
[06:45] <Razor-X> emacs!!! ;)
[06:45] <Razor-X> but, cat pwnz all
[06:45] <NathanHome> i shouldn't have said vi :)
[06:45] <tvn> I have DocumentRoot /home/thanhvu/myWWWPath    in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf   , I also reload apache2 but it keeps pointing to the default /var/www  .. am I missing something ?
[06:45] <Mejobloggs> umm, there is nothing there at all
[06:46] <Mejobloggs> ah, spelt it wrong
[06:46] <Mejobloggs> idiot me
[06:46] <Mejobloggs> it says: NO_START=0
[06:46] <unome> NathanHome: what about sshd, how disable at boot?
[06:47] <NathanHome> unome, i dont know the preferred method, but i would do "sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ssh"
[06:47] <Mejobloggs> anyway, cya people, thanks for help
[06:47] <KillerSmurf> bbl
[06:49] <unome> Thx Nathan
[06:49] <NathanHome> unome, reading /etc/init.d/ssh , i assume the preferred method is "sudo touch /etc/sshd/sshd_not_to_be_run"
[06:49] <unome> ah!
[06:49] <NathanHome> but thats ssh specific
[06:50] <unome> great to know, thx
[06:50] <NathanHome> there's also update-rc.d
[06:50] <fr500> a question, what is mpps?
[06:51] <unome> isn't touch relates to tmestamps?
[06:51] <unome> time*
[06:51] <NathanHome> fr500, in what context (haven't heard it)
[06:51] <fr500> lan switches
[06:51] <NathanHome> unome, yes - but it also creates the file if it doesnt exist
[06:51] <fr500>  Forwarding rate: 8.55 mpps
[06:51] <unome> kewlies
[06:52] <NathanHome> fr500, maybe just a typo for mbps ? dunno
[06:52] <fr500> not really
[06:52] <NathanHome> only other thing i can think of is the first p refers to 'packets'
[06:52] <fr500> nevermind, i found what i need
[06:53] <fr500> NathanHome, i thought the same too
[06:53] <NathanHome> fr500, did you find out what it is?
[06:53] <fr500> not really, but i have so much to do, i'll write it on my todo list
[06:53] <gm78> Razor-X: Hey, Firmware upgrade worked, router still being a piece of crap. im contacting smc right now, i dont think it is a router failure....as everything else is still working (like me using IRC, etc)
[06:55] <NathanHome> fr500, google seems to say 'million packets per second'
[06:55] <fr500> NathanHome, but packests are variable size, thats a weird unit
[06:55] <NathanHome> fr500, i believe its related to the CPU speed of the router
[06:55] <fr500> oh
[06:55] <fr500> the backplane maybe
[06:55] <fr500> yes
[06:56] <NathanHome> while packets are variable sized, the router (roughly( only needs to look at the destination address to determine what to do
[06:56] <ditto> enlightenment is hard as fuck to use
[06:56] <ditto> :(
[06:56] <ditto> anyone have anyhelp sites for it?
[06:56] <benplaut> ditto: then why use it?!
[06:56] <ditto> tring something new?
[06:56] <ditto> fluxbox is coo but boring.
[06:57] <benplaut> XFce 8)
[06:57] <fr500> NathanHome, you are right
[06:59] <gm78> ditto: xfce is pretty cool. u can compile the latest version with a graphical installer from their website
[07:00] <ditto> xfce?
[07:03] <Razor-X> gm78: can I continue helping you tomorrow?
[07:04] <Razor-X> I got my Calculus book in the mail, and i'm gonna jump headfirst into it
[07:04] <mebaran151> how would I ssh to a remote server
[07:04] <mebaran151> presetup for it
[07:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> presetup?
[07:05] <ironmc> Printer Problem --  I have an HP psc2110 that I can't seem to print with - Worked with Mandrake 10.0 just before Ubuntu
[07:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> ironmc, have you got the foomatic db?
[07:06] <ironmc> don't know
[07:06] <ironmc> where can I find out
[07:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> ironmc using synaptic
[07:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> search for foomatic
[07:07] <ironmc> thanks
[07:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> mebaran151, what do you mean presetup?
[07:08] <QMario> What program can I use in Ubuntu to play .mid files?
[07:08] <djs> Kamping_Kaiser: (s)he's quit
[07:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> so they did
[07:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> *shrug* i did ask before
[07:09] <djs> Kamping_Kaiser: Perhaps their IRC dropped out
[07:09] <djs> Kamping_Kaiser: ... and it took a while to show
[07:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> could be, but that's a proper quit
[07:10] <djs> Kamping_Kaiser: k (I'm still on somewhat of an IRC learning curve)
[07:10] <SogniX> is there a way i can force unmount a drive? umount -f keeps telling me the device or resource is busy - but nothing that I can tell is accessing it
[07:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. yeh, that's fair enough djs... what are you using?
[07:10] <djs> x-chat
[07:10] <QMario> What program can I use in Ubuntu to play .mid files?
[07:11] <ironmc> Kamp_Kaiser  I have all the foomatic istalled
[07:12] <QMario> What program can I use in Ubuntu to play .mid files?
[07:12] <NathanHome> QMario, something like timidity perhaps
[07:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> *fires up synaptic for the first time in weeks*
[07:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> ironmc, and cups?
[07:12] <ironmc> let me check
[07:13] <ironmc> cups is installed
[07:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> ironmc, you need at lest "cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-client"
[07:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> right then
[07:13] <QMario> NathanHome, why doesn't Ubuntu just have a few programs that can play all audio types, such as the Windows Media Player?
[07:14] <ironmc> all those are installed
[07:14] <NathanHome> QMario, .mid's are a bit unusual
[07:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> ironmc, I'm trying to think of packages that would have the drivers
[07:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> ironmc, how did you install, using the printer thing?
[07:15] <ironmc> Kamp_Kaiser  system>admin>printing shows nothing in the que
[07:15] <ironmc> using firefox and Acroreader
[07:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> ironmc, have you run the new printer setup?
[07:16] <ironmc> yea i set up the hp using the defaults
[07:16] <NathanHome> QMario, http://wiki.vrijschrift.org/GstreamerContractWork talks about Free Software midi problems a little
[07:16] <ironmc> hpjis driver
[07:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> ironmc, did you use a recomeneded driver?
[07:18] <ironmc> yes hpijs
[07:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> I'm not sure ironmc. i just have to try contact somone now... you mgiht need to grab some help from one of the others here
[07:20] <QMario> NathanHome, do you or anyone else know how to enable the mplayer plug-in for mozilla-firefox to produce audio at all?
[07:20] <ironmc> thanks Kamp_Kaiser
[07:21] <Tenniru_> Um, I can't connect to my wireless router. I don't know why.
[07:22] <Tenniru_> I think Ubuntu might be sending the password in ASCII when it should be in hex.
[07:22] <Tenniru_> What should I do?
[07:22] <QMario> NathanHome, do you or anyone else know how to enable the mplayer plug-in for mozilla-firefox to produce audio at all?
[07:22] <NathanHome> QMario, dont know sorry
[07:22] <QMario> Are most people in this chat room usually asleep?
[07:23] <Tenniru_> I'm not.
[07:23] <gm78_> QMario, there is an extension for firefox to allow you to have embedded video/audio to load in an external program like kaffeine or vlc
[07:23] <Tenniru_> Unfortunately, i'm useless.
[07:23] <NathanHome> its late afternoon in my timezone, but i guess it might night time in more populated parts of the world :)
[07:23] <jbroome> Tenniru_: but honest. :)
[07:23] <QMario> NathanHome, have you ever tried it, or do you use Windows for those type of things?
[07:24] <Tenniru_> as is my regular AirPort card, which cannot connect to my wireless router.
[07:24] <NathanHome> QMario, i tend to download video/audio clips rather than play directly within firefox
[07:24] <QMario> Gm78_, is kaffeine for KDE.
[07:24] <QMario> Oh...
[07:24] <gm78_> kaffeine is for kde, but works in gnome (like almost all kde programs) vlc is for gnome
[07:24] <NathanHome> i just use totem plus some of the things on marillat
[07:24] <hardcampa-> but works in kde if you got gnome etc
[07:25] <NathanHome> 'things' being codecs i mean
[07:26] <djs> ironmc: still here?
[07:28] <djs> maybe not :)
[07:28] <djs> anyway - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HpPscHpPhotosmartSeriesAllInOnePrinters
[07:28] <SogniX> for some reason I can't mount a share on another computer (used "Shared Folders" from utilities), keeps asking me for my username 'n password
[07:32] <sobersabre> hi guys... why the osd plugin for xmms shows the fonts so ugly ? is there a way to enable AA ?
[07:34] <budluva> can i install ubuntu over top of my current debian sarge install??? i have my / on one disk, and my /home and /storage each on other disks, i shouldnt have a problem installing ubuntu on my / after formatting right?
[07:35] <NathanHome> after formatting the drive with / , no
[07:35] <NathanHome> you can setup the /home and /storage mounts again during install
[07:35] <budluva> but i can still keep my /home and /storage correct?
[07:35] <sobersabre> budluva, i have upgraded ubuntu over sarge before it was stable.
[07:35] <budluva> right
[07:35] <NathanHome> badluva, long as you dont format over them
[07:35] <budluva> right
[07:35] <delltony> question: if i installed linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10.5-smp that includes the module for fglrx do i still need to have xorgdrivers-fglrx installed ? or do i simply install that restricted module package and restart? leaving the xorg.conf file in place
[07:36] <NathanHome> after formatting the drive with / , no  <-- "no you wont have a problem" is what i meant
[07:36] <budluva> ive installed debian over itself before, just wondering if it would work installing different distros on top of each other
[07:36] <sobersabre> budluva, and you can also loose all the information if you don't install ubuntu, but simply format /home and /storage ;-)
[07:36] <budluva> and i found my answer, thanks guys
[07:36] <NathanHome> delltony, i dont have that card but if its anything like nvidia, one is the kernel module and one is a driver for xorg
[07:37] <delltony> so i need both?
[07:37] <NathanHome> i would think so
[07:37] <HrdwrBoB> NathanHome is correct
[07:37] <oofnik> hey, can anyone help me with a samba problem
[07:37] <bob2> delltony: restricted-modules is only the kernel side
[07:37] <sobersabre> guys... lib osd... does it use AA ?
[07:37] <bob2> oofnik: you need to ask your qustion first...
[07:37] <NathanHome> i've installed linux-restricted-modules and nvidia-glx for my nvidia card, ati sounds similar
[07:37] <bob2> sobersabre: you mean "anti aliasing"? no.
[07:37] <unome> damn, it takes ages to compile wine!
[07:37] <delltony> hmm i'm just trying o figure out why my computer after running for a little bit seems to get so dang slow
[07:37] <delltony> in terms of windows refresh slow as crap
[07:38] <bob2> unome: if only there was a way to get it without compiling it ;p
[07:38] <oofnik> unome, wine is pretty big.. heh
[07:38] <sobersabre> is there a way to make xmms plugin for osd to do anti-aliasing ?!
[07:38] <sobersabre> bob2, you got me right.
[07:38] <delltony> and dvds lag
[07:38] <bob2> sobersabre: you care that much?
[07:38] <delltony> its like the whole computerr goes to half the speed
[07:38] <sobersabre> bob2, yes. it looks ugly :)
[07:38] <oofnik> bob2 specifically i'm trying to share something that isn't in my home directory, and it won't become accessible
[07:39] <bob2> oofnik: add another share section to the config
[07:39] <oofnik> smb.conf? that's what i've been doing
[07:39] <oofnik> and i restarted the server
[07:39] <sobersabre> i have mp3 q.: is there a linux tool to cut an mp3 into several short cuts ?
[07:40] <delltony> if someone doesn't mind helping that wouuld be great
[07:40] <delltony> i can't seem to put my finger on the problem :(
[07:40] <Klementas> how can I make ubuntu stop loading up all the kernel modules when it starts?  is the hotplug stuff doing this?
[07:41] <djs> sobersabre: try audacity
[07:41] <foxiness> hi..fax in linux ,what the answer than?
[07:41] <Exodus> Hello
[07:41] <Exodus> I have a problem installing ubuntu
[07:42] <Klementas> are there tools to rip a DVD to theora, or are all DVD tools not in the system?
[07:42] <foxiness> hi Exodus
[07:42] <oofnik> exodus, whats your problem?
[07:42] <bob2> Klementas: thoggen
[07:42] <drsews> can someone tell me if you can access my webiste , I just configured ssl and a bunch of modules so need to see if it works , https://halong.dyndns.org/index.html ?
[07:42] <Klementas> bob2: thanks :)
[07:42] <foxiness> oofnik, the same Q
[07:42] <bob2> Klementas: why do you want to stop modules loading?
[07:42] <Exodus> After it installs base systems and all it tell me to reboot, once it reboots, kernel starts, mods...then i loose keyboard handle.
[07:42] <bob2> oofnik: and what isn't working with samba then?
[07:42] <foxiness> i want to send fax on linux ?
[07:42] <Klementas> bob2: ?
[07:42] <oofnik> foxiness, youre having the same problem as me?
[07:43] <NathanHome> drsews, yes
[07:43] <Exodus> Anyone know my problem?
[07:43] <NathanHome> drsews, all fine other than invalid cert
[07:43] <Exodus> after i reboot my kb stops working.
[07:43] <foxiness> oofnik, what is your problem is it fax on linux?
[07:43] <Klementas> Exodus: do you have an XT keyboard?
[07:43] <bob2> Exodus: nothing in the last archives or on google?
[07:43] <Exodus> it starts setting up all the packages and i noticed it stoped working, the mouse.no numlock no nothing.
[07:43] <drsews> NathanHome:   oh ok  ....  how to create a valid cert ?  this is for my home server
[07:44] <Exodus> hmm...xt?
[07:44] <Klementas> ah, nevermind
[07:44] <oofnik> bob2, i can't access any share that isn't in my home directory.. e.g. i'm trying to share a vfat volume and i can't get anything to see it
[07:44] <NathanHome> drsews, if you really need it, you need to buy one
[07:44] <Exodus> Klementas, it worked on install
[07:44] <NathanHome> drsews, if its just for friends or whatever, it doesnt need to be valid (signed)
[07:44] <bob2> oofnik: paste the relevant sections of smb.conf to #flood
[07:44] <foxiness> oofnik, if you mean "oofnik, the same Q" this about exodus q
[07:44] <drsews> NathanHome: i c ,  I just add ssl to use subversion control  ....
[07:44] <oofnik> i'll just post my smb.conf file
[07:45] <Klementas> Exodus: ok
[07:45] <oofnik> oh ok foxiness
[07:45] <foxiness> oofnik, did you use fax ?
[07:45] <NathanHome> drsews, i wouldnt worry about it then - signing a cert is basically just to prove you are who you say you are
[07:45] <oofnik> what would fax do?
[07:45] <foxiness> fax from linux may dad ask me to send fax to work now
[07:46] <oofnik> foxiness i'm trying to configure samba haha
[07:46] <foxiness> haha
[07:47] <jessid> hi. some of you know how can I export my environment variables automatically every time I log in the system? I used to doit in ~/.profile in SuSE but it seems not to work in Ubuntu
[07:47] <foxiness> i think on bashrc
[07:47] <foxiness> or something like that
[07:47] <oofnik> bob2 i put my smb.conf in #flood
[07:48] <djs> jessid: perhaps .bash_profile
[07:48] <Exodus> i mean in debian kb works fine, i reboot, kb keeps working. But i installed ubuntu just now, it tells me to reboot so i enter my new system, bam...kb dies after kernel modules load (around that point)
[07:50] <Exodus> any tips?
[07:50] <sobersabre> djs, is there a batch mode in audacity ?
[07:51] <foxiness> no one recommend me a program to send fax there are 15 package on synaptic did i need to try all this ?! to know what is the best
[07:51] <djs> sobersabre: don't know, sorry
[07:52] <the_faulkenator> hi
[07:53] <HermanDE> the_faulkenator, hi
[07:53] <the_faulkenator> i just installed Ubuntu, and i don't believe it asked for a root password. is there a default?
[07:53] <foxiness> hi the_faulkenator
[07:53] <Klementas> hi the_faulkenator
[07:53] <Amaranth> the_faulkenator: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:53] <Klementas> the_faulkenator: there is no root password
[07:53] <the_faulkenator> ahh ok
[07:53] <Klementas> the_faulkenator: if you want root, type: sudo passwd
[07:53] <foxiness> use the same one you create with your name
[07:53] <Klementas> the_faulkenator: and then give the root password
[07:54] <Amaranth> Klementas: Bad advice.
[07:54] <oofnik> can anyone with a clean hoary install give me a copy of their smb.conf please?
[07:54] <Klementas> the_faulkenator: then you can start logging in as root, or do su
[07:54] <Amaranth> Klementas: A majority of the users will never need root, sudo should be enough.
[07:54] <foxiness> oofnik, am here :)
[07:54] <Amaranth> Klementas: If you really want a root terminal, run sudo -i
[07:54] <NathanHome> indeed, unless you have a good reason for actually wanting root enabled, its best left disabled
[07:54] <Klementas> no thanks
[07:55] <HermanDE> Amaranth: There are times when apps need a system root password.
[07:55] <Klementas> sudo sucks, I use su -
[07:55] <oofnik> foxiness do you have the original smb.conf?
[07:55] <Amaranth> HermanDE: The app is broken.
[07:55] <jessid> sorry, but it did not work in .bash_profile...or what else do I have to do besides copying PATH=/new/path/to/somewhere/else  ?????
[07:55] <HermanDE> Amaranth: Uh...   Yea.....
[07:55] <the_faulkenator> so my root password is just blank currently, correct?
[07:55] <Amaranth> HermanDE: Name one?
[07:56] <the_faulkenator> i just hit enter when it asks for the root password?
[07:56] <NathanHome> the_faulkenator, not really - it just doesnt exist
[07:56] <Amaranth> HermanDE: I don't know of any apps in Ubuntu that don't work with sudo
[07:56] <HermanDE> the_faulkenator: Just disabled.....
[07:56] <HermanDE> Amaranth: Try SWAT.....
[07:56] <oofnik> Amaranth.. swat
[07:56] <oofnik> HermanDE said it before me hah
[07:56] <Amaranth> oh, a universe package
[07:57] <HermanDE> oofnik: But I'll give you the popcorn....
[07:57] <NathanHome> the_faulkenator, as Amaranth mentioned:  login in with your user account, run 'sudo -i' and give your user account's password again
[07:57] <Amaranth> did anyone file a bug in malone?
[07:57] <Amaranth> it it still broken in breezy?
[07:57] <Amaranth> is it
[07:57] <NathanHome> Amaranth, yeh i know a few in universe
[07:57] <oofnik> yes! popcorn!
[07:57] <jessid> i'm trying to work with a jar file in java, and I don't want to source .profile every time I use the console...what do I have to do if I want to export some variables automatically i log in?
[07:57] <NathanHome> "broken" as in launch via the gnome menu anyway
[07:58] <foxiness> oofnik, not the orginal
[07:58] <NathanHome> ethereal being one i routinely use
[07:58] <oofnik> hmm would i get some better responses if i posted my samba problem in the ubuntu forum do you think?
[07:58] <foxiness> oofnik, sorry
[07:58] <NathanHome> oofnik, can you summarise it
[07:58] <HermanDE> oofnik: What are you looking for?
[07:59] <oofnik> i can't share anything that's outside my home directory or it isn't accessible
[07:59] <the_faulkenator> does any debian package work with ubuntu?
[07:59] <NathanHome> jessid, i'm not sure why youre .profile wouldnt be sourced to begin with
[07:59] <foxiness> ThE__OnE, any!
[07:59] <NathanHome> jessid, oh cos you haven't started a login shell
[07:59] <foxiness> the_faulkenator, any sure yes
[08:00] <the_faulkenator> haha awesome
[08:00] <HermanDE> the_faulkenator: Sure...  Just take care that you use a package from pre 3.1.
[08:00] <niran> NathanHome, the only problem with ethereal is the .desktop files
[08:00] <niran> NathanHome, oh, you already said that. oops.
[08:00] <NathanHome> niran, yep - i haven't struck any apps that dont work without root, just ones that cant be launched via the .desktop
[08:00] <HermanDE> oofnik: Did you fire up SWAT and create a new share?
[08:00] <the_faulkenator> and one more question then i'll leave you guys alone,  does anyone know of a good list of apt-get sources and how to update them?
[08:01] <jessid> NathanHome, i think I read somewhere that not in all distributions .profile does not work...
[08:01] <NathanHome> i lack the smarts to modify the menu
[08:01] <NathanHome> jessid, try mv .profile .bashrc
[08:01] <HermanDE> the_faulkenator: Try www.apt-get.org
[08:01] <oofnik> HermanDE yep, i did that, several times, it won't do anything
[08:01] <foxiness> the_faulkenator, ubuntuguide.com
[08:01] <foxiness> sorry .org
[08:01] <HermanDE> oofnik: What do you mean...  anything...  Does SWAT work?
[08:01] <the_faulkenator> alright, thanks guys
[08:01] <foxiness> nps
[08:02] <NathanHome> jessid, or just symlink it.   i'm sure there's some history behind running scripts for login and non-login shells, but i just find it frustrating
[08:02] <NathanHome> jessid, so on my systems i usually just make .bashrc and ln -s .bashrc .bash_profile
[08:03] <oofnik> HermanDE yes, swat works, and i can add the share and everything, but whenever i try to access the share, it can't find it
[08:03] <oofnik> i can share /tmp and my home directory though
[08:03] <jessid> NathanHome thanks a lot
[08:03] <kangpeh> whats the most sleek, but simple theme you guys have found
[08:03] <kangpeh> for gnome
[08:04] <NathanHome> kangpeh, also whats your favourite colour? :)
[08:04] <jessid> NathanHome you were right!!!
[08:04] <jessid> good bye
[08:04] <HermanDE> oofnik: Is nmbd running?
[08:04] <kangpeh> nathanhome: doesn't matter
[08:04] <Nic> kangpeh, i use industrial controls and clearlooks window border
[08:04] <kangpeh> i just want sleekest
[08:04] <kangpeh> i can mess w/ the colors
[08:04] <kangpeh> o.o
[08:04] <NathanHome> kangpeh, i was pointing out its largely a matter of taste
[08:04] <oofnik> HermanDE, yes
[08:05] <kangpeh> nathanhom:e ah
[08:05] <HermanDE> oofnik: I have found that when I do heavy modifications with UBUNTU + SWAT, nmbd stops while smbd runs fine....
[08:05] <NathanHome> kangpeh, personally i just install everything i can find in synaptic and then go through them
[08:05] <kangpeh> i just want the cleanest sleekest simplest but cool
[08:05] <kangpeh> like not squares
[08:05] <kangpeh> but rounded shit
[08:05] <HermanDE> oofnik: Did you try and search for the samba box by ip address?
[08:05] <Nic> industrial rounds most things
[08:05] <NathanHome> kangpeh, i use clearlooks but that may not be for you
[08:05] <Tenniru_> Okay, I think I know the problem with my wifi connection. How can I tell if my computer is boradcasting a password in ASCII or hex?
[08:05] <Tenniru_> to the wireless router?
[08:05] <Nic> but not the stuff in the application panel
[08:06] <oofnik> HermanDE that is very odd.. although yes it is running.. i can get a list of the shares, but i cannot access the ones that are not in my home directory
[08:06] <HermanDE> oofnik: What user do you have SMBD and NMBD running as?
[08:07] <HermanDE> oofnik: Did you enable browsable on the shares?
[08:07] <NathanHome> Tenniru_, from memory ubuntu will only accept hex
[08:07] <Tenniru_> Ah.
[08:07] <Tenniru_> During the net-install the wifi connection to work, but now it doesn't.
[08:07] <oofnik> HermanDE.. is there a way to check that to be sure? i'm logged in to swat as root
[08:07] <NathanHome> tenniru_, i assume you're using WEP
[08:07] <Tenniru_> Let me check.
[08:07] <HermanDE> oofnik: Go to the particular share and see if you have the browsable block checked.....
[08:08] <HermanDE> oofnik: Are you logging into the samba box as a samba user?
[08:08] <HermanDE> oofnik: If not, do you have guest access turned on?
[08:08] <NathanHome> Tenniru_, also what wifi card do you have - generally ubuntu's wifi driver support is pretty lousy i think
[08:08] <Tenniru_> The normal AirPort.
[08:08] <Tenniru_> It has worked before when I used Ubuntu earlier, and it also worked during the net-install.
[08:08] <NathanHome> ok then
[08:09] <oofnik> HermanDE yes, guest access is on, that's how i am trying to use samba
[08:09] <oofnik> security is not an issue for me at all
[08:09] <NathanHome> Tenniru_, at a terminal i'd usually run 'iwlist wlan0 scanning'
[08:09] <NathanHome> to confirm if i can actually see my AP
[08:09] <NathanHome> (assuming broadcast is enabled)
[08:09] <HermanDE> oofnik: What is the user you are mapping guest to?
[08:10] <HermanDE> oofnik: Does that user have access to your share by the linux rights?
[08:10] <Tenniru_> It claims that it doesn't support scanning.
[08:10] <Tenniru_> According to Ubuntu, my AirPort card is eth1.
[08:10] <oofnik> HermanDE.. um.. i don't know about that
[08:10] <faulk_linux> root@booger:~ # gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:10] <faulk_linux> (gedit:26998): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[08:10] <HermanDE> oofnik: If I remember it is located in the global pane..   Check the rights on the share.
[08:10] <oofnik> HermanDE the thing is, both entries in smb.conf are identical, but only my home directory is accessible
[08:11] <NathanHome> Tenniru_, sorry i'm not famiilar with the AirPort hardware
[08:11] <Tenniru_> ah
[08:11] <NathanHome> oofnik, whats 'accessible'
[08:11] <NathanHome> Tenniru_, but in that situation, i'd probably turn off WEP and work from there
[08:11] <faulk_linux> i'm getting that error when trying to update my repository list?
[08:11] <Tenniru_> What could have wound up with it working during install (and a while ago when I used version 4) and now not?
[08:12] <oofnik> NathanHome: accessible meaning i can access the share..
[08:12] <foxiness> i wnat to link /media/cdorm to /cdrom0 is this by ln -s /media/cdrom /media/cdrom0 correct?
[08:12] <HermanDE> oofnik: I'd like to see your smb.conf.  It's been awhile.  What is the channel for doing dumps?
[08:12] <djs> faulk_linux: Try "sudo gedit..." from your normal user
[08:12] <NathanHome> oofnik, cant access how - ie, whats the error
[08:12] <Vjaz> foxiness, yes that's right
[08:12] <foxiness> wnat want
[08:12] <foxiness> Vjaz, thanks
[08:13] <oofnik> HermanDE i will post it in #flood
[08:13] <HermanDE> oofnik: Hold one... Going there now...
[08:13] <oofnik> wait, i haven't posted yet
[08:13] <mejobloggs> hi, I am trying to start apache2, but it wont start
[08:13] <foxiness> ln: creating symbolic link `/media/cdrom0/cdrom' to `/media/cdrom': Read-only file system
[08:13] <Tenniru_> My ethernet port, which Ubuntu claims is eth0, works fine...
[08:13] <oofnik> NathanHome: nautilus says: "music" couldn't be found. Perhaps it has recently been deleted.
[08:13] <oofnik> but it's there
[08:14] <mejobloggs> can anyone help me?
[08:14] <rob^> probably
[08:15] <mejobloggs> ...
[08:15] <HermanDE> mejobloggs: /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[08:15] <mejobloggs> nothing happens
[08:15] <NathanHome> re mejobloggs; to start from where we ended last time. apache2 script is there, it does nothing
[08:15] <NathanHome> i got him to check /etc/default/apache2
[08:15] <NathanHome> NO_START=0, so something else is missing
[08:16] <NathanHome> perhaps apache2 binary itself, didnt check that
[08:16] <rob^> man, I hate floppys
[08:16] <mejobloggs> nono, NO_START-0 is there
[08:16] <mejobloggs> it is ther
[08:16] <mejobloggs> e
[08:16] <NathanHome> mejobloggs was saying sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start prints absolutely nothing (so its silently dying inside apache2 init script)
[08:17] <HermanDE> oofnik: Is EXT2 a mounted filesystem?
[08:17] <mejobloggs> yes, that guy knows more than me :)
[08:17] <NathanHome> mejobloggs, work down the list i guess
[08:17] <mejobloggs> thanks NathanHome
[08:17] <NathanHome> mejobloggs, ls -l /usr/sbin/apache2
[08:17] <NathanHome> check it exists and is executable
[08:17] <mejobloggs> no such file...
[08:18] <NathanHome> if you didnt typo it, sounds like a corrupted installation
[08:18] <mejobloggs> i copy pasted
[08:18] <mejobloggs> ok, so i re-install?
[08:19] <NathanHome> mejobloggs, yeh check which packages you have installed to
[08:20] <mejobloggs> i just do that using 'Add/Remove Programs' ?
[08:21] <foxiness> if i use ln -s to create link ,how can i break it than
[08:21] <mejobloggs> ok, i went to Advanced, clicked on Networking, then selected 'apache2-common'
[08:22] <mejobloggs> Also, i have got rid of all the internet repositories, and just kept the CD one
[08:23] <mejobloggs> so, if there are any things that are needed that are not on the CD, i guess it wont work, but I am not able to use the internet repositories
[08:23] <bob2> foxiness: rm it
[08:23] <george_> i am not going to hang around here...but whoever compiled the debian package or ubuntu package for kile forgot to include ec...
[08:24] <foxiness> bob2, if i use rm /media/cdrom/cdrom0 ? its says its not eampty
[08:24] <bob2> foxiness: then it's not a symlink
[08:25] <george_> there is more i could discuss but ec is necessary for the letter template...and should have been included
[08:25] <bob2> george_: have you filed a bug?
[08:25] <foxiness> bob2, thanks its rm now
[08:26] <george_> bob2, hell no...i don't file bugs...i fix stuff....but anyway i am gone back to work on the hurd
[08:26] <mejobloggs> NathanHome, did you understand what i said?
[08:26] <bob2> george_: er, if there's a problem, it would be great if you could file a bug with a patch then
[08:27] <NathanHome> mejobloggs, try right click and 'reinstall'
[08:27] <george_> bob2, i just gave you what you needed to know...why should i file a bug....if you want free document processing...untied to proprietary java and all that crap...then you need to get the deb file for ec at least for kile.
[08:28] <bob2> george_: that's not a very useful attitude, but your choice
[08:28] <bob2> (I don't use or care about kile, but apparently you do)
[08:28] <mejobloggs> aah, do I need an mpm thing?
[08:28] <george_> bob2, of course i like lyx-qt and kile....been using them for years....along with gi....gnu replacement for vi
[08:28] <bob2> mejobloggs: install the apache2 package
[08:29] <mejobloggs> i have no 'apache2' package
[08:29] <bob2> mejobloggs: perhaps it's not on the cd
[08:29] <mejobloggs> they are all stuff like apache2-common
[08:29] <bob2> you certainly need it if you want apache2 to work, tho
[08:29] <george_> well i am going back to work on the hurd because it has lots of problems
[08:30] <mejobloggs> hehe
[08:30] <bob2> that is true
[08:30] <bob2> good luck with it
[08:31] <george_> bob2, thanks...i need it....there is so much to do just to get anything working...like the problems with freedos32...on my other partition
[08:31] <bob2> that doesn't sound very hurd-related
[08:31] <mejobloggs> is it ok to download any .deb package and use on Ubuntu ?
[08:31] <george_> ok bye
[08:31] <bob2> mejobloggs: no
[08:32] <mejobloggs> ok
[08:32] <bob2> mejobloggs: only use .debs from ubuntu itself
[08:32] <mejobloggs> thanks
[08:32] <bob2> and only ones from the same version of ubuntu you're using
[08:32] <mejobloggs> so, if i want something else, i have to compile it right?
[08:33] <bob2> no
[08:34] <bob2> you generally just use the ubuntu package
[08:34] <bob2> in the very very small number of cases where it's not in ubuntu, you might need to compile it
[08:34] <NathanHome> and in those situations, i use checkinstall
[08:34] <NathanHome> which is in ubuntu repository
[08:35] <mejobloggs> and that checks if it is installed correctly
[08:35] <mejobloggs> ?
[08:35] <NathanHome> the name is stupid
[08:35] <bob2> sure, or make your own debian package, depending on how much you care
[08:35] <NathanHome> like bob2 says, it builds a debian package
[08:35] <NathanHome> i like that since then i can easily uninstall
[08:35] <mejobloggs> ah, ok, thanks for helping me
[08:36] <oofnik> i got my samba to work, just had to add guest account = [myaccount] .. not secure but i don't care :) later everyone
[08:36] <CodeZilla> Hi @ all, could anybody tell me, how to mirror an installationserver and how much space does i need? (I not allways have got an internetconnection)
[08:36] <oofnik> thanks again NathanHome
[08:36] <NathanHome> np, happy to bring another  person into the insecure samba fold :)
[08:36] <bob2> CodeZilla: "installation server"? you mean an ubuntu archive?
[08:37] <CodeZilla> exactly
[08:37] <bob2> CodeZilla: my warty,hoar,breezy i386 main+restricted mirror is 6.1GB
[08:38] <bob2> CodeZilla: mirroring the full thing for i386 would probably be on the order of 15GB (including universe and multiverse)
[08:38] <CodeZilla> bob2, i think an ftp-url or something would do it (need only hoar)
[08:38] <bob2> tho that is a guess
[08:38] <bob2> CodeZilla: no, you need a proper mirroring program
[08:38] <CodeZilla> ftpmir? wget?
[08:38] <NathanHome> rsync i assume
[08:39] <bob2> CodeZilla: debmirror -m -h au.archive.ubuntu.com -p -v --nosource --method=ftp -r /ubuntu/ -d warty,hoary,breezy --section=main,restricted --arch=i386  ./ubuntu/
[08:39] <HermanDE> CodeZilla: jigdo or rsync would be best....
[08:39] <bob2> CodeZilla: the debmirror program is what you want
[08:39] <bob2> I'm pretty sure jigdo doesn't make mirrors
[08:39] <NathanHome> dont listen to me :)
[08:39] <HermanDE> bob2: Good choice...  Just couldn't remember the name.....
[08:39] <bob2> and rsync won't let you mirror a single release
[08:39] <CodeZilla> oh i like that community!!
[08:39] <bob2> since warty hoary and breezy packages are all in the one directory, and don't have identifying labels
[08:40] <NathanHome> if we all give an answer, at least one of them might be correct :)
[08:40] <bob2> well, I use my answer daily, so I know it's right ;p
[08:40] <CodeZilla> NathanHome, i heard you ;-) rsync is cool (debmirror could use it)
[08:40] <NathanHome> bob2, what mirror do you run?
[08:40] <bob2> NathanHome: oh, just one in my house
[08:40] <ups> what's the quick way to know whether a package is in main/universe via command-line?
[08:40] <NathanHome> bob2 oh ok
[08:41] <bob2> ups: apt-cache show packagename | grep \^Section
[08:41] <ups> cool, thx bob2
[08:46] <QMario> How do I access addons.mozilla.org
[08:46] <QMario> ?
[08:47] <cthulfuego> with a web browser
[08:48] <QMario> Cthulfuego, when I use Mozilla Firefox, it says I haven't been upgraded to 1.04, but I have upgraded to 1.04.
[08:48] <cthulfuego> QMario: Really? How?
[08:49] <Nic> QMario, you need to go about:config
[08:49] <cthulfuego> QMario: What versuioin does it ive you when you enter 'about:' in the location bar?
[08:49] <Nic> thee is a string in there that you need to change
[08:49] <Nic> version or something
[08:49] <QMario> Mozilla released 1.0.4 firefox, and ubuntu backported fixes to 1.0.2. But, mozilla doesn't allow instaling extensions from their site on firefox <1.0.4. Since ubuntu's mozilla has 1.0.3 and 1.0.4 fixes, it acctually, is 1.0.4 firefox. But, version string in programs says 1.0.2.
[08:50] <cthulfuego> QMario: Ok, so you're running 1.0.2 with 1.0.4 fixes. But 1.0.2.
[08:50] <SamerAdra> have you tried downloading the default package from firefox's website and installing that instead of from apt?
[08:50] <Nic> app.version
[08:50] <HermanDE> QMario: try using about:config
[08:50] <Amaranth> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10681#c3
[08:50] <Amaranth> there is the fix
[08:50] <HermanDE> QMario: Search for 1.0 and change it to 1.0.4
[08:50] <SpecialBuddy> how do I install the new version of firefox
[08:50] <Nic> change the string to 1.0.4
[08:50] <cthulfuego> !firefox is https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10681#c3
[08:50] <ubotu> cthulfuego: okay
[08:51] <CodeZilla> bob2, hmm, starts downloading, but stops with that few lines as last output. I had tries some other mirrors to. Any suggestions? Get Packages and Sources files and other miscellany.
[08:51] <CodeZilla> dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz needs fetch
[08:51] <CodeZilla> Getting: dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz... ok
[08:51] <CodeZilla> Failed to download some Package, Sources, Contents or release files!
[08:51] <CodeZilla> releasing 1 pending lock... at /usr/lib/perl5/LockFile/Simple.pm line 182.
[08:51] <HermanDE> QMario: It is at general.useragent.vendorSub
[08:51] <HermanDE> QMario: Then click on it and put in 1.0.4
[08:52] <CodeZilla> NathanHome, or you? Still listening ;-)
[08:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> what's the tool for c# developement under Linux? is it mono?
[08:53] <Amaranth> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah, you probably want monodevelop too
[08:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> amaranth, thanks
[08:53] <HermanDE> Kamping_Kaiser: I like to call it vi....
[08:53] <QMario> HermanDE, do I restart Mozilla Firefox then or something?
[08:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[08:53] <cthulfuego> QMario: Nope
[08:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> hermande, i was thinking of giving other editors a go ;)
[08:53] <NathanHome> CodeZilla, sorry not familiar enough with that software
[08:53] <HermanDE> QMario: Nope....  Just browse to the archive....
[08:54] <QMario> Thank you everyone, it now works! :-D
[08:55] <cthulfuego> Kamping_Kaiser: other editors?
[08:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> then vi
[08:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> or screem
[08:55] <cthulfuego> Kamping_Kaiser: Those don't exist.
[08:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> >.<
[08:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks people
[08:57] <bob2> CodeZilla: that means it couldn't download some files
[08:58] <bob2> CodeZilla: also, you will need to customise the line I gave you, you presumably don't want warty or breezy
[08:59] <george_> it is so sickening that Sun put their logo all over openoffice and also used all that proprietary java code......
[08:59] <NathanHome> cthulfuego, monodevelop was a bit too basic last time i used it to give up vi
[09:00] <george_> but for those people who are sick and tired of Bill Gates and Sun....they can use lyx-qt or kile....because some of us believe
[09:00] <george_> What You See is What You Mean...is more important than Bill Gates "What you see is what you get"
[09:00] <Nic> george_, you should learn latex
[09:01] <george_> Nic, you mean like latex to docbook or latex to hthl or latex to ps
[09:01] <george_> html
[09:01] <bob2> george_: this seems kinda off-topic
[09:01] <bob2> and very ranty
[09:01] <cthulfuego> NathanHome: if you choose a real language you won't need to use monodevelop
[09:01] <NathanHome> cthulfuego, what do you suggest :)
[09:01] <cthulfuego> NathanHome: dutch
[09:02] <NathanHome> :)
[09:02] <Nic> george_, it dosent matter what you output it as its all latex?
[09:02] <QMario> Is there an extension for Mozilla Firefox that allows me to have embedded video/audio to load in an external program such as kaffeine or vlc?
[09:03] <NathanHome> now i'm offtopic, but has anyone used DocBook before? is it worth looking into ?
[09:03] <CodeZilla> bob2, ok, but why? and from every mirror i try? (modfied already, stops always after downloading the Release-file, of the last selected dist)
[09:04] <unome> when is 'Ubuntu - Humans' book coming out!!
[09:04] <HermanDE> QMario: I remember using plugger.  It would redirect netscape requests for specific things to a linux app....
[09:09] <QMario> HermanDE, how do I tell Mozilla Firefox to use Plugger instead of MPlayer?
[09:09] <shad0w1e> what is the difference between l33t and 1337 ?
[09:10] <wulfepup> hi guys
[09:10] <_0kills> hi wulfepup
[09:10] <_0kills> shad0w1e, yea, and what does pwnz mean
[09:10] <CodeZilla> wulfepup, servus
[09:10] <HermanDE> QMario: Plugger was an application you would load then configure plugger to play avi with mplayer.  And configure it to play MP3's with xmms....
[09:10] <shad0w1e> that wasnt the question
[09:11] <wulfepup> l33t is only half as "elite" as 1337
[09:11] <HermanDE> QMario: It would follow a mime table.....
[09:11] <unome> shad0w1e: 1ts 411 4b0ut p3rc3pt10n
[09:11] <_0kills> hmmm
[09:11] <NathanHome> shad0w1e,  nothing
[09:11] <wulfepup> LOL
[09:11] <shad0w1e> so they are the same thing
[09:11] <NathanHome> they are all variations of 'elite'
[09:11] <QMario> HermanDE, where would I find Plugger?
[09:12] <shad0w1e> oh wo l33t * 2 = 1337
[09:12] <george__> there is one question for you gnome ubuntu people...since kile is so kde'ish....does anybody have amyedit working or PyOffice
[09:12] <shad0w1e> and l33t /2 = le3t ?
[09:12] <HermanDE> QMario: Try FM....
[09:12] <QMario> FM?
[09:12] <unome> shad0w1e: l1k3 3y3 s4id 1t's 411 ab0ut n3bn3ss + p3rc3pt10n
[09:12] <Choubaka> george__: I have amyedit working
[09:12] <bob2> CodeZilla: I don't know, I'd guess a problem with your connection
[09:12] <shad0w1e> i think i got it
[09:13] <george__> Choubaka, how is amyedit compared against kile...i have seen very few screenshots on it
[09:13] <shad0w1e> I hope I never know more
[09:13] <QMario> What does FM stand for?
[09:13] <unome> full motion lol
[09:13] <george__> Choubaka, and what about PyOffice...how responsive is it
[09:13] <Choubaka> george__: I haven't used kile or PyOffice :/
[09:13] <shad0w1e> is firestarter a GUI frontend to iptables?
[09:13] <mikas> QMario, in what context?
[09:13] <Choubaka> shad0w1e: yes.
[09:14] <shad0w1e> how do I get into the GUI once its installed
[09:14] <QMario> Mikas, in HermanDE's comment.
[09:14] <mikas> QMario, freshmeat.net
[09:14] <mikas> prolly
[09:14] <_0kills> shad0w1e, system tools
[09:14] <shad0w1e> um what ports does windows use to browse the LAN ?
[09:14] <shad0w1e> well, linux too
[09:15] <goliat> guys how can i check what are the ips that accesses my machine through ssh
[09:15] <NathanHome> 139
[09:15] <goliat> ?
[09:15] <shad0w1e> I want to block all LAN access
[09:15] <shad0w1e> 139?
[09:15] <NathanHome> tcp 139 is windows networking
[09:15] <shad0w1e> samba is 139 too, right?
[09:15] <NathanHome> yep
[09:15] <Choubaka> LAN access can mean any port, so hm.
[09:15] <shad0w1e> how about linux networking
[09:15] <NathanHome> Choubaka, indeed
[09:15] <Choubaka> what networking?
[09:15] <Choubaka> nfs?
[09:15] <Choubaka> cifs?
[09:15] <shad0w1e> i think so
[09:16] <shad0w1e> i think nfs
[09:16] <shad0w1e> okay I'm looking to completely block LAN access on one of my adapters
[09:16] <NathanHome> turn it off? :)
[09:16] <shad0w1e> meaning, only internet can pass thoruhg
[09:16] <shad0w1e> no networking, seeing shares, etc
[09:17] <NathanHome> shad0w1e, you probably want to block by subnet then
[09:17] <goliat> guys where does ssh throw its access logs by default ?
[09:17] <shad0w1e> NathanHome, meaning?
[09:17] <NathanHome> shad0w1e, what is your network topology exactly?  is the computer you want to block lan access to a gateway for the lan?
[09:18] <bob2> someone needs to write a big fat "THIS IS HOW NETWORKS WORK" document and make people read it before they setup firewalls
[09:18] <bob2> goliat: /var/log/auth.log
[09:18] <mikas> goliat, /var/log/auth.log
[09:18] <mikas> echo
[09:18] <NathanHome> bob2, yeh. problem is it quickly gets tricky for anything but the simplest of circumstances
[09:18] <goliat> thnx alot guys
[09:19] <Choubaka> NathanHome: especially with iptables.
[09:19] <Choubaka> iptables is freaky
[09:19] <bob2> hmm
[09:19] <NathanHome> bob2, like this one - i'm kind of intrigued why you would want to block file sharing on the lan, but not internet
[09:19] <bob2> maybe I haven't done big enough networks
[09:19] <shad0w1e> I have a router. A friend uses the router too. I dont want my friend accessing any of my files so I wired the router into my linux box and then put anotehr adapter in there and ran it from there into my switch
[09:19] <shad0w1e> and I'm running iptables to pass the internet along
[09:20] <Choubaka> shad0w1e: uh, hm
[09:20] <NathanHome> shad0w1e, so where does your friend plug in
[09:20] <Choubaka> shad0w1e: simple solution: don't share the files to your friend.
[09:20] <shad0w1e> basically its a shared office
[09:20] <shad0w1e> two locked doors
[09:20] <shad0w1e> wire running from his router
[09:20] <shad0w1e> to my box
[09:21] <NathanHome> Choubaka, i tend to agree - if you just want to protect your one (linux) pc, leave samba etc uninstalled
[09:21] <shad0w1e> but I want to share within my network
[09:21] <mejobloggs> cant you just have no shared folders?
[09:21] <mejobloggs> and if you want to share something, put it into one of their shares?
[09:21] <shad0w1e> sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j SNAT --to 192.168.0.200
[09:21] <shad0w1e> # Security
[09:21] <shad0w1e> sudo iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
[09:21] <shad0w1e> sudo iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -i ! wlan0 -j ACCEPT
[09:21] <shad0w1e> sudo iptables -P INPUT DROP   #only if the first two are succesful
[09:21] <shad0w1e> sudo iptables -A FORWARD -i wlan0 -o wlan0 -j REJECT
[09:22] <NathanHome> i'm not quite following the topology - is your friend on the same subnet as your local pc's, or is he routed via your ubuntu box
[09:22] <shad0w1e> my ubuntu box is wired to his router
[09:22] <goliat> whats the facility that helps me know to who an ip is registered
[09:22] <QMario> Why does Mozilla Firefox suddenly close itself randomly without asking first when you have more than one tab open?
[09:22] <NathanHome> and how do your local boxes get out
[09:22] <shad0w1e> also I'm running 10.0
[09:23] <shad0w1e> he's running 192.168
[09:23] <shad0w1e> so I suppose that means that his subnet is 255.255.255.255
[09:23] <shad0w1e> and mine is 255.0.0.0
[09:23] <ninnghizidha_> I' looking for a good filesharing-Programm ... does anybody has a good suggestion?
[09:23] <NathanHome> apart from being trivial to get around, you're safe by default if you dont have a route between them
[09:23] <shad0w1e> gtk-gnutella?
[09:24] <shad0w1e> NathanHome, but I need a route between them so that all the other computers on my switch can access the internet
[09:24] <unome> apollon is not bad
[09:24] <ninnghizidha_> i heard of gnutella, but does it support overnet/kadmedia?
[09:24] <NathanHome> shad0w1e, how many NIC's are in your ubuntu box
[09:24] <shad0w1e> 2
[09:25] <rj-away> goliat: 'whois'.
[09:25] <NathanHome> you really need 3 if you want to protect your side of the network
[09:25] <rj-away> goliat: You can do it over www at http://www.arin.net
[09:25] <shad0w1e> NathanHome I dont understand what a 3rd one would do
[09:25] <NathanHome> if i understand right, your ubuntu box has one nic going out to the internet
[09:25] <NathanHome> and one to a switch
[09:25] <shad0w1e> correct
[09:26] <Nic> man everytimg someone says nic i get all excited :(
[09:26] <NathanHome> the switch has your internal pcs plus a link to your friends router
[09:26] <shad0w1e> plus the ubuntu box
[09:26] <NathanHome> if you're worried about him swiping your fields, thats a problem
[09:26] <shad0w1e> which is wired to the router
[09:26] <shad0w1e> yes
[09:26] <mikas> shad0w1e, why not just put samba to listen on your networks ip and not his?
[09:26] <goliat> if i got ips trying to log to my system with random users but theyr failing is there a way to report them or an authority to report them to ?
[09:26] <NathanHome> since he can just change his ip to something in your subnet, and totally ignore your ubuntu box
[09:26] <shad0w1e> mikas, but how about all of my windows computers on the network , sharing files as well
[09:27] <mikas> shad0w1e, you have nat right?
[09:27] <rj-away> goliat: Did you go and look at the stuff I mentioned, above?
[09:27] <shad0w1e> I pasted above
[09:27] <shad0w1e> thats what Im running now
[09:27] <mikas> shad0w1e, then the other side can't see your lan at all
[09:27] <NathanHome> shad0w1e, and how is your friend's subnet being routed into yours (assuming it currently is)
[09:27] <shad0w1e> I think its pretty safe now
[09:27] <mikas> if i understood at all your current setup
[09:27] <shad0w1e> I think its too safe
[09:28] <shad0w1e> I cant open up a direct connection to people over the internet
[09:28] <shad0w1e> they need to initiate
[09:28] <shad0w1e> so its a bit of a pain in the ass
[09:28] <QMario> Can realplayer work in Ubuntu?
[09:28] <goliat> i got to know whos the ISP this ip refers to and thers an email to report abuse to
[09:28] <NathanHome> if you're friends router is routing between your 10.0.0.0/8 network and his 192.168.0.0/24 network, your ubuntu box is powerless as a firewall
[09:28] <goliat> should i send a copy of the log with an email there ?
[09:28] <shad0w1e> NathanHome : NO
[09:29] <shad0w1e> my adapter thats plugged into his router is running on 192.168
[09:29] <shad0w1e> the one going to my internal network is 10.0
[09:29] <rj-away> goliat: report the abuse in a way you would consider 'sensible'.
[09:29] <NathanHome> i thought we said earlier his router was plugged into your switch
[09:29] <shad0w1e> nooo
[09:29] <shad0w1e> plugged into the box
[09:29] <rj-away> This would probably include concise logs, ips, dates and times.
[09:30] <shad0w1e> then another ethernet adapter on the box, goes to the switch
[09:30] <NathanHome> shad0w1e, so your ubuntu box has one nic going to his router, and one going to your network?
[09:30] <shad0w1e> NathanHome correct
[09:30] <NathanHome> how do you get internet access
[09:30] <shad0w1e> Im running iptables on the ubuntu box
[09:30] <george__> ninnghizidha_, right now everybody is using i2p with garlic routing
[09:31] <george__> ninnghizidha_, except for all those Bill Gates and Sun whores that are all using tor and onion routing
[09:31] <SpecialBuddy> how do you install splash themes gnome?
[09:31] <xliu> is there localized channel for Chinese?
[09:31] <NathanHome> shad0w1e, but where is your internet connection actually plugged in?
[09:31] <goliat> cat /var/log/auth.log | grep "the_abusers_ip" > "the_abusers_ip".txt
[09:31] <vaab> havin' big problems about "fam", but I can't find it with apt-cache
[09:31] <shad0w1e> into my friends router
[09:31] <NathanHome> oh i see
[09:31] <goliat> and ill attach it with the mail
[09:31] <NathanHome> so you're routing through him for internet
[09:31] <shad0w1e> I guess
[09:31] <george__> ninnghizidha_, but i am sure you know the difference between onion and garlic routing so you choose
[09:32] <NathanHome> i had assumed it was the other way round for some reason
[09:32] <shad0w1e> no he has the router
[09:32] <shad0w1e> and the internet
[09:32] <ratl3> does anyone know how to find the window id's spawned by a process id?
[09:32] <QMario> How do I get Real Player to work on Ubuntu?
[09:32] <SpecialBuddy> does anyone know how to change the splash screen on gnome
[09:32] <shad0w1e> QMario it sucks, dont bother, but you can install it from synaptic
[09:32] <Nic> urgh realplayer
[09:32] <shad0w1e> oh sorry, not synaptic
[09:32] <NathanHome> shad0w1e, well yeh you're right, you're secure by default
[09:33] <ratl3> i should probably ask somewhere else
[09:33] <shad0w1e> NathanHome what do you mean by that
[09:33] <NathanHome> shad0w1e, your ubuntu box isn't configured to route traffic from your friends router into your network
[09:33] <shad0w1e> NathanHome but it is routing internet
[09:33] <duken> hi
[09:34] <duken> how to upgrade openoffice.org to openoffice.org2 ?
[09:34] <NathanHome> shad0w1e, yeh SNAT will give your network's computers internet access
[09:34] <airmikey> anyone here use , azureus
[09:34] <george__> duken, why do you want that Sun bait and switch stuff...why not stick with free software
[09:34] <NathanHome> but there's no way path for a machine on your friends network to connect to amachine on yours
[09:34] <george__> duken, even the new koffice would be a better choice than that...at least it is GPL
[09:35] <shad0w1e> NathanHome, so if I just use the SNAT, without any of the security features
[09:35] <shad0w1e> I'm fine?
[09:35] <NathanHome> yeh
[09:35] <shad0w1e> sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j SNAT --to 192.168.0.200
[09:35] <wulfepup> woohooo  ... this should work from work too.
[09:35] <airmikey> i cant connect to nat server port with 6881
[09:35] <shad0w1e> that command, alone, is safe?
[09:35] <NathanHome> yep
[09:36] <wulfepup> gotta love tunneling to bypass local firewalls that anal-retentive bosses put up....
[09:36] <shad0w1e> damn I hate system administrators
[09:36] <shad0w1e> they get all defensive
[09:36] <shad0w1e> and go out of their way
[09:36] <shad0w1e> just to show they can own your ass
[09:37] <shad0w1e> NathanHome, I'm also running SAMBA on this machine
[09:37] <shad0w1e> I dont want anyone to be able to access samba from the 192.168 network
[09:38] <QMario> What is the most reliable program in Ubuntu that can play .mov files?
[09:39] <Hoxzer> hi, I have a problem with Gnome
[09:39] <Nobodyreal> Has anyone managed to get gmailfs working properly under Hoary?
[09:40] <linukso> Morn du!
[09:40] <linukso> Whops wrong channel, sorry
[09:41] <shad0w1e> NathanHome, how would I block out all access to my ubuntu box from my friends network?
[09:41] <niran> Hoxzer, what's your problem?
[09:42] <QMario> Niran, is that a pun?
[09:42] <niran> Hoxzer, FYI, the easiest way to go about asking questions here is just to ask it, and whoever can fix it will answer
[09:42] <niran> QMario, ha, no
[09:44] <jeanre> whats a good dvd ripper?
[09:44] <george__> jeanre, you are not supposed to rip dvd's...do you live in the US
[09:44] <NathanHome> shad0w1e, something like iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.0.0/8 --state NEW -j REJECT
[09:45] <jeanre> george__:  no I dont
[09:45] <jeanre> :)
[09:45] <slept> I'm looking for an (music)  database , that I can access via network , nfs and local database is to slow . Any Ideas ? It should be able to update itself and remember which enties I deleted (didn't want to see)
[09:45] <george__> jeanre, oh...you are lucky...you don't have the DMCA
[09:45] <jeanre> george__:  its my own dvds
[09:45] <Hoxzer> How I can move that bar (that contains system and everything) ?
[09:45] <george__> jeanre, it doesn't matter.
[09:45] <shad0w1e> NathanHome, isn't it /24 ?
[09:45] <jeanre> it does
[09:45] <jeanre> its for backups
[09:45] <jeanre> :)
[09:45] <george__> jeanre, you don't have DMCA and patent laws where you live?
[09:45] <NathanHome> yeh
[09:45] <niran> Hoxzer, where are you trying to move it to?
[09:46] <airmikey> trying o figure out which nat server port to use for azureus....6881 doesnt connect
[09:46] <jeanre> george__:  we do but we can make backups
[09:46] <niran> Hoxzer, you can move it sideways by right clicking on it, unlocking it, then richt clicking again and clicking move
[09:46] <george__> jeanre, here in the US ...if you buy a DVD you only get to watch it once...and then scratch  it and throw it in the garbage and waste all your money for nothing
[09:46] <Hoxzer> Niran: down as it is normaly
[09:47] <jeanre> george__: thats is stupid
[09:47] <george__> jeanre, and if you want to watch it again...you have to pay more money
[09:47] <niran> Hoxzer, if you want it on the bottom panel, unlock the applets there and drag it down
[09:47] <slept> It doesn't have to be a database, anything else that does the job would be fine
[09:47] <QMario> Jeanre, do you mean "backups"? :)
[09:47] <george__> jeanre, well you have never seen the arcade video games where if you want to play a game again you have to put in more money
[09:48] <george__> jeanre, you better start getting used to Trusted/Treacherous Network Computing
[09:48] <george__> jeanre, and get ready to empty your wallet and everything you own for the megacorporation's profits
[09:49] <jeanre> QMario: yip
[09:50] <budluva> i just installed ubuntu for my first time, and i am reading the ubuntu starter guide, trying to install j2re 1.5 and it tells me to edit my sources.list and uncomment the repos which i do, then update, then apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 and it wont find the package, what am i missing?
[09:51] <budluva> i tried apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla aswell, it doesnt work either, so is it my apt sources that are screwed?
[09:52] <mejobloggs> if i want to do remote desktop from a windows pc, what do i need on the windows pc?
[09:52] <QMario> Budluva, why don't you just use Synaptic Package Manager?
[09:52] <george__> budluva, why do you want the proprietary Sun java stuff
[09:52] <mejobloggs> what i mean is, i want to see the ubuntu pc's desktop, from the windows pc
[09:53] <budluva> george__, azureus
[09:53] <jeanre> mejobloggs: vnc
[09:53] <jeanre> :)
[09:53] <budluva> QMario, because im new to ubuntu and have never heard of synaptic package manager
[09:53] <george__> budluva, oh...yea....more Sun stuff.....man those guys are making a killing by selling computers that promote piracy
[09:53] <mejobloggs> any vnc?
[09:53] <QMario> Budluva, look at the top of the screen.
[09:54] <mejobloggs> TightVNC?
[09:54] <QMario> Click System, then Administration, and then you will see Synaptic Package Manager.
[09:54] <Taken_By_Kristin> Can anyone help me access the internet with the Live CD??
[09:54] <shad0w1e> NathanHome, thanks so much for your help
[09:54] <george__> budluva, they have tor, azureus, ants, and all kinds of Sun Java stuff....it is ridiculous
[09:54] <QMario> Taken_By_Kristin, shouldn
[09:55] <QMario> 't you be on the internet already?
[09:55] <Taken_By_Kristin> name Taken_By_Kristina
[09:55] <budluva> george__, you know of any better bittorrent clients than az for ubuntu?
[09:55] <budluva> QMario, thanks man
[09:55] <george__> budluva, and the worst thing is people are paying money for that Sun stuff...just because they think they will get to pirate stuff with it
[09:55] <Taken_By_Kristin> It's on a computer that gets it's connection through a wireless adapter.
[09:55] <Taken_By_Kristin> *its
[09:56] <george__> budluva, yes...there are native C++ bittorrent clients
[09:56] <mejobloggs> so, any vnc program will work? Do you have any recommendations?
[09:56] <Taken_By_Kristin> What should I do?
[09:56] <QMario> Try System, then Administration, then click on Networking.
[09:56] <Taken_By_Kristin> Did that.
[09:57] <QMario> Is your network WEP or WPA enabled?
[09:57] <george__> budluva, there are also some python bittorrent clients as well
[09:57] <Taken_By_Kristin> I don't think so.
[09:57] <Taken_By_Kristin> Lemme check.
[09:57] <kangpeh> What is the average CELCIUS temperature at which an AthlonXP runs at?
[09:57] <Taken_By_Kristin> WEP is disabled.
[09:58] <george__> budluva, why do you want to support that proprietary Sun Java stuff
[09:58] <Taken_By_Kristin> Do I enable it?
[09:58] <QMario> First of all, that's unsecure, but good enough for testing things. Click the Wireless Connection icon.
[09:58] <george__> budluva, what you should do is throw openoffice and azureus in the garbage can
[09:59] <QMario> Let's just make sure you can connect first.
[09:59] <george__> budluva, unless enough improvements are made in gcj to get a Sun free version
[09:59] <budluva> george__, well i've used azureus in the past and its worked for me, why fix something thats not broken? :P
[09:59] <Taken_By_Kristin> Where's the Wireless Connection Icon?
[09:59] <budluva> george__, i just havent found a better client for linux thats all
[09:59] <QMario> Are you using Hoary or Warty?
[10:00] <george__> budluva, because you are implicitly supporting the rich that cruelly manipulate and ruthlessly exploit the poor
[10:00] <george__> budluva, Sun has billions of dollars...how much do you have?
[10:00] <Taken_By_Kristin> It's the Hoary Live CD.
[10:00] <QMario> Usually it is eth1.
[10:00] <Taken_By_Kristin> I still have XP installed I just wanted to try the Live CD first.
[10:01] <Taken_By_Kristin> So go to System, Administration, Networking, and then Wireless Conenction?
[10:01] <QMario> In the connections tab there should be something that says wireless connection. Double-click on that.
[10:02] <Taken_By_Kristin> Ok just a sec.
[10:02] <Taken_By_Kristin> I have to boot from the Lice CD again.
[10:03] <Taken_By_Kristin> There aren't any differences between the Live CD are there?
[10:03] <QMario> You should make sure that the first check box is filled. The one that says "This device is configured".
[10:03] <Taken_By_Kristin> Ok.
[10:03] <QMario> Not much, but the Live CD runs slower than the real thing.
[10:04] <QMario> Did you partition your hard drive?
[10:04] <Taken_By_Kristin> Not yet.
[10:04] <Taken_By_Kristin> If this Live CD thing works out, possibly.
[10:05] <youngcoder> i tried to use the su command and it said auth failed.. why is this?
[10:05] <youngcoder> i enter the root PW
[10:05] <Taken_By_Kristin> It's almost done booting.
[10:05] <Nermal> youngcoder, no root account
[10:05] <Nermal> youngcoder, use sudo su
[10:05] <rronkiv> anyone around?
[10:05] <Taken_By_Kristin> Sorry for making you wait.
[10:05] <youngcoder> kk
[10:05] <QMario> It's okay. :)
[10:06] <youngcoder> Nermal, thank you
[10:06] <Nermal> np
[10:06] <Taken_By_Kristin> Plus the computer is in a different room and I have to keep walking back and forth...ugh
[10:06] <QMario> I understand your frustration. ;)
[10:06] <rronkiv> What am i using? Linux IA32, Linux AMD64/EM64T or Linux IA64
[10:07] <albacker> rronkiv, uname -a
[10:07] <Taken_By_Kristin> Ok.
[10:07] <Taken_By_Kristin> So I'm on Networking.
[10:07] <Taken_By_Kristin> And I can choose Modem Connection or Ethernet Connection.
[10:07] <rronkiv> albacker, it says i686 but where does it say which one of those?
[10:08] <Nermal> rronkiv, what cpu ?
[10:08] <rronkiv> im trying to download my video card drivers
[10:08] <QMario> Is the wireless adapter plugged in correctly?
[10:08] <rronkiv> im using a P4
[10:08] <Nermal> probably IA32
[10:08] <Nermal> yeah IA32 then
[10:08] <Taken_By_Kristin> It should be.
[10:08] <QMario> Are you using a Wireless USB Adapter?
[10:08] <Nermal> "Intel Architecture 32 bit"
[10:08] <Taken_By_Kristin> Yes.
[10:08] <rronkiv> thanks
[10:08] <albacker> i686 is the proc.
[10:08] <QMario> What brand name?
[10:09] <Taken_By_Kristin> Linksys.
[10:09] <QMario> Are the lights on the Linksys Adapter on?
[10:10] <rronkiv> i have a really retarded question but
[10:11] <rronkiv> is anyone here able to write me a file that will install and configure the drivers for me? from the SH command to the finish?
[10:11] <rronkiv> i'm too n00b to do it
[10:11] <QMario> Does this adapter work with your Windows XP?
[10:11] <Taken_By_Kristin> Wait.
[10:11] <Taken_By_Kristin> It's not USB.
[10:11] <Taken_By_Kristin> Yes it works with XP.
[10:11] <Taken_By_Kristin> It's not USB.
[10:11] <Taken_By_Kristin> I didn't set this up so I don't know much, sorry again haha.
[10:12] <QMario> What kind is it?
[10:12] <Taken_By_Kristin> Umm...I don't know.
[10:12] <slept> Taken_By_Kristin, do you know the modelname ? you can find out with lspci, have a look if it is supported on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards , there is a description how to get it working aswell
[10:12] <Taken_By_Kristin> Can I describe it to you?
[10:13] <QMario> Yes.
[10:13] <Taken_By_Kristin> It's not plugged into the USB port it's just an antenna that seems to just be screwed in.
[10:13] <Cybermagellan> I installed webmin from synaptic....however it is supposed to be webbased and I can't find anything for it....how am I supposed to access it anyone?
[10:14] <QMario> You should use the link that slept gave you on your other computer.
[10:14] <Tomcat_> Cybermagellan: Try "man webmin"
[10:14] <Taken_By_Kristin> Just a sec.
[10:14] <slept> Cybermagellan, its' on https://localhost:10000
[10:14] <QMario> If you can not, I'll take a look for you.
[10:14] <Tomcat_> Cybermagellan: Or navigate to /usr/share/doc/webmin and check out the files... I don't know the webmin package so I can't give you any direct things.
[10:14] <Tomcat_> Cybermagellan: + what slept said. :)
[10:15] <slept> Cybermagellan, but to use webmin with ubuntu you'll need to create a webmin-root account there is a script that comes with webmin to do so
[10:15] <Taken_By_Kristin> All right.
[10:15] <Taken_By_Kristin> I typed in lspci into the terminal.
[10:15] <Taken_By_Kristin> What do I look at?
[10:17] <QMario> The 'Ispci' command doesn't work on my PC.
[10:17] <slept> QMario, you don't have pci ?
[10:17] <Taken_By_Kristin> LSPCI
[10:17] <salvia> hay dudes
[10:17] <Taken_By_Kristin> You just typed Ispci
[10:18] <_0kills> hey dude
[10:18] <Taken_By_Kristin> What do I look at after typing lspci?
[10:18] <salvia> anyone here using some kind of groupware?
[10:19] <slept> Taken_By_Kristin, it lists all cards you have , look for wireless or network or linksys
[10:20] <QMario> Slept, can you take it from here, because it's almost 3:30 A.M.
[10:21] <slept> Cybermagellan, it's /usr/share/webmin/changepass.pl /etc/webmin root <your passwordhere>
[10:21] <QMario> Taken_By_Kristin, I hope you get your problem fixed.
[10:21] <slept> QMario, I don't have any expirience with wireless but I'll try
[10:21] <QMario> Good Night everybody!
[10:21] <Taken_By_Kristin> I found network controller and ethernet controller.
[10:21] <Taken_By_Kristin> Thanks for all your help mario!
[10:21] <_0kills> night QMario
[10:21] <QMario> I believe in you slept. ;)
[10:22] <Cybermagellan> Thanks
[10:22] <_0kills> im off too, take care all
[10:23] <slept> Taken_By_Kristin, how are they called ?
[10:23] <Taken_By_Kristin> Broadcom.
[10:23] <Corical> how do i check the total bw usage on my pc ?
[10:23] <Taken_By_Kristin> It seems like I need to install a driver.
[10:23] <Corical> in and out .. ?
[10:25] <Taken_By_Kristin> And on that link you sent me it says I'll need ndiswrapper or something.
[10:25] <slept> Taken_By_Kristin, and the model ?  In linux you have kernel-modules instead of drivers you have to find out the chipset
[10:25] <Taken_By_Kristin> BCM4306
[10:27] <Corical> does anyone have an idea ?
[10:27] <Corical> any command maybe that i can  use ?
[10:27] <Corical> to check   bandwidth usage
[10:28] <Taken_By_Kristin> Anything else?
[10:30] <Taken_By_Kristin> How do I find out the chipset and get on the internet?
[10:30] <mejobloggs> hi, i am tryng to share my /var/www folder using samba
[10:30] <mejobloggs> but i cant write to it, on the windows pc. Is this because /var/www is a root folder or whatever?
[10:32] <mejobloggs> how would i enable writing to it?
[10:32] <slept> Taken_By_Kristin, ndiswrapper uses windows drivers with linux for wlan cards , you'll need the bcmwl5a.inf file
[10:32] <Taken_By_Kristin> How do I use ndiswrapper?
[10:33] <Taken_By_Kristin> I booted from the Live CD.
[10:33] <george_> slept, why do you want ndiswrapper...that implicitly supports the rich that ruthlessly exploit the poor...MS has billions of dollars...how much do you have?
[10:33] <george_> slept, you are supporting the people that work with MS and write MS drivers.
[10:34] <yonil> how can i use lsof to find all the applications that use /dev/dsp ?
[10:34] <Taken_By_Kristin> How do I use ndiswrapper?
[10:34] <george_> slept, you need to support the people that starve and work for freedom instead of money
[10:35] <slept> george_, I don't want it , I don't need it , slow down with your fear for expliotion . I'm trying to give suport and if I tell buy an other card who has to pay , not the rich .
[10:36] <george_> slept, well i would not even mention ndiswrapper because it supports the rich instead of the poor
[10:37] <Taken_By_Kristin> Whichever gets me online...
[10:37] <slept> george_, no it supports the people who can afford to buy an other card , are these people rich ? No. So they won't have acess to the internet . If you do so you achieved the opposit of what you wanted to.
[10:37] <Taken_By_Kristin> How do I use ndiswrapper?
[10:38] <george_> if you have not learned nothing about history and greed and gold....then learn the meaning of these gnuflash graphics at
[10:38] <george_> http://members.tripod.com/~irving69/ihatemicrosoft.htm
[10:39] <Nelsonrat> HI
[10:39] <Tomcat_> george_: lol, 1996 called :)
[10:40] <Seveas> Taken_By_Kristin, you use windows drivers with ndiswrapper, so first download wondows 2000 drivers for your card
[10:40] <george_> Seveas, you should be shot for giving that advice
[10:40] <budluva> im having a networking problem, i have both of my ethernet connections setup and active, and i have ip_forward enabled in my /etc/network/options and i can ping between both machines, but my xp machine doesnt have internet access, i have my xp machine configured to use my ubuntu machine as a gateway, what am i doing wrong or what havent i enabled to share my internet connection?
[10:41] <ivan_qk> hello
[10:43] <slept> george_, what is it , free software is not about hate and ignorance , if you made the mistake of buying a not supported card you shouldn't be punished. With your attitude you close doors to freesoftware,
[10:43] <Taken_By_Kristin> I can't download it without a connection.
[10:43] <liable> budluva: try shorewall, easy to config to use nat.
[10:43] <Taken_By_Kristin> I should be getting to bed I guess...
[10:43] <Taken_By_Kristin> I'll try and get help in the morning.
[10:43] <Taken_By_Kristin> Thanks anyways guys.
[10:43] <Taken_By_Kristin> Good night.
[10:44] <george_> slept, no....you have the free GNU compiler and the freedom to write your own driver for the hardware you already have...and in the future don'
[10:44] <george_> don't buy MS type hardware
[10:46] <ekCo> hey does vidalinux have a chan
[10:46] <ekCo> if so where?
[10:47] <slept> george_, people who aren't able to get use to linux might not be capable of reverse engeneering . Give them a chance to get started with easier things. But I agree to not buy MS products or hardware thats not supported :)
[10:47] <slept> *used*
[10:48] <george_> slept, if people would get started writing their own drivers with GNU software and freely distribute them to others...then this improves free software not closes free software.
[10:48] <budluva> when i nmap localhost i come up with 2 open ports, ports 25 and 631/tcp open ipp, what is ipp? i know port 25 is for my mailserver but do i need ipp open?
[10:49] <HrdwrBoB> shan: budluva they are only open locally
[10:49] <HrdwrBoB> er
[10:49] <oofnik> does anyone know how to force wine to use ALSA?
[10:49] <george_> slept, we have always had an acronym since day 1....don't help these bastards take the easy road....tell them to RTFM
[10:50] <george_> slept, otherwise you get computers that say "Intel on the Inside" and implicitly "Idiot on the outside"
[10:51] <george_> slept, because Intel has billions of dollars...how much do you have?
[10:51] <Nermal> you should simply be able to return hardware that doesn't work with linux and get your money back. simple as that.
[10:51] <Nermal> so lets not get into a flamewar
[10:51] <Nermal> it's a friday :P
[10:51] <slept> george_,   Of course it improves free software .  Are you kernel developer ?
[10:52] <george_> slept, sometimes i patch a few things...but i for sure did not write the DRM patch in 2.6.12...that was IBM...again the rich
[10:52] <george_> IBM has billions of dollars....how much do you have?
[10:52] <Nermal> george_, some people don't care about ethics and supporting microsoft. they just want to be able to get on the internet
[10:53] <Nermal> good for you to have ethics, but in real life, people just want the hardware to work
[10:54] <Nermal> george_, and tbh, with ndiswrapper stuff, the biggest offender is broadcom, not microsoft
[10:54] <ratl3> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=226795&postcount=195
[10:54] <ratl3> my first forum post... hah
[10:55] <ratl3> what a hack
[10:55] <Nermal> bah.. composite is such a fad
[10:55] <ratl3> shrug
[10:55] <Nermal> like lesbians and TV
[10:55] <ratl3> it's nice on this laptop
[10:55] <slept> george_, I care about ethics. But if a had bouth non supported hardware and I'm not able to develop the driver. Then I decide to buy a new card , who gets the mony? It's not me . It's an other company having billons of ... .
[10:55] <ratl3> hasn't crashed yet
[10:57] <george_> slept, well don't buy their hardware if they will not give out all the secret microcode and firmware and layout designs according to the Free Hardware Foundation princiiples.
[10:57] <george_> slept, that way anybody could get the info and call a low labor cost fab in China or India and put them all out of business
[10:57] <Nermal> george_, what cpu have you got ?
[10:57] <george_> Nermal, well i wanted the e2k...the beast...but it was not available
[10:58] <Nermal> that wasn't my question ?
[10:58] <Cybermagellan> What the? Why does removing sendmail remove mysql?
[10:58] <george_> Nermal, and so far no one has produced a reasonable speed version of f-cpu
[10:58] <Nermal> if it's an intel or amd, GFL finding the microcode source on their website
[10:58] <Nermal> george_, married ? wear shoes ?
[10:59] <george_> Nermal, no...no shoes...but i am married...but the bastards won't let me talk to my wife and kids for 11 years....fucking rich capitalist pigs
[10:59] <Nermal> george_, you buy her an engagement ring ?
[10:59] <george_> and their money whore government
[11:00] <george_> Nermal, no i bought her a wedding ring....and i don't know if she still has it
[11:00] <Nermal> ah.. see it's not just computer hardware.. diamonds and trainers are both made / mined unethically
[11:00] <george_> Nermal, because they won't let me talk to anybody for 11 years...fucking capitalist pigs and their paid-for government
[11:00] <shad0w1e> anyone know how to use "screen" ?
[11:00] <shad0w1e> How do I execute a C-a command?
[11:01] <george_> Nermal, well it was no diamond...that is for sure.
[11:01] <george_> Nermal, as a matter of fact...we did not have much...all her teeth rotted out at a young age
[11:01] <george_> Nermal, but these bastards won't let me talk to her.
[11:02] <Nermal> hmmm
[11:02] <Nermal> I guess the only thing you can do is wait until the kids are 18 and can make up their own mind
[11:03] <george_> Nermal, they should be far beyond that now....but either they have been coerced by this fucked up government not to call or they have been brainwashed
[11:03] <george_> Nermal, or they may be crippled or dead
[11:04] <george_> Nermal, and i should have a right to know...but this god-dammed government is for the collective megacorporations instead of the individuals and the people
[11:04] <slept> george_, I know to look for supported hardware, because I'm already on linux and gnu. But if you try to switch from microsoft to linux and you didn't knew about nonfree things . But now you try to break the circle and switch to the free world, improve things .... But suddenly george_  appears and tells you that you should buy things for not making other people richer.  Don't you think that george_ isn't any better than microsoft ? The idea of free softw
[11:04] <slept> are is to make it available to everyone but you exclude people, and thats what you are trying to do .
[11:04] <Nermal> george_, hmm.. I'm sure there are ways to get in contact.
[11:04] <slept> s/are/ free software
[11:04] <Nermal> slept, -1 flamebait
[11:05] <george_> Nermal, well i have tried many things over 11 years...but so far not one damn person will help
[11:05] <Nermal> george_, well if I was near you I'd buy you a beer and give you a pat on the back :)
[11:06] <george_> Nermal, well i don't drink alcohol....and denying people freedom of information is not solved with pat on the back
[11:06] <slept> Nermal, I  just wanted to give support not to start a flamewar
[11:07] <Nermal> george_, I didn't say it was.
[11:07] <Nermal> but it's a start
[11:08] <budluva> google down for anyone else?
[11:08] <[logic] > google a-ok for me
[11:09] <Seveas> lol, google down :)
[11:09] <Seveas> like that ever happens
[11:09] <rommer> Seveas: yo, i got php5 working
[11:09] <Seveas> nice, rommer
[11:10] <[logic] > i wouldnt mind if it did, i already sold all my shares in GOOG last week, hehe
[11:10] <Seveas> george_: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[11:10] <rommer> Seveas: i just did sudo apt-get remove php4*
[11:11] <Seveas> rommer, lol :)
[11:11] <rommer> yeai know
[11:11] <Seveas> that's a good way of surgically removing it :)
[11:12] <Seveas> I don't like it when people tell me I should be shot...
[11:14] <gorilla_> heh :-)
[11:14] <Seveas> good riddance, such people just put the free software / open source movements in a bad light...
[11:15] <slept> Seveas, thanks
[11:15] <slept> got to go have a nice time
[11:15] <Nermal> Seveas, oh give over..
[11:15] <Nermal> stop making #ubuntu into a load of code of conduct waving idiots
[11:16] <Nermal> linux for humans - he was being human
[11:16] <Seveas> Nermal, people that are just violently ranting about these things can be missed as a toothache
[11:16] <Seveas> he was being a bastard, not a human
[11:17] <araw1> :)
[11:17] <Nermal> ah.. there it is
[11:17] <Nermal> point taken
[11:18] <Seveas> it's not just that Nermal, it's his entire talking that's just so not suitable fir this channel
[11:18] <Nermal> true..
[11:18] <Nermal> obviously one very bitter guy
[11:18] <Seveas> ranting and cursing about proprietary things is just not the good way to promote open source / free software. Plus this is a help channel and not an advocacy channel :)
[11:18] <Nermal> moreso than me :)
[11:18] <Cybermagellan> There is really no "Postfix/Sendmail for Dummies" guide online is there?
[11:19] <Seveas> The postfix website has a few intro docs
[11:19] <Seveas> including sample configurations
[11:19] <Nermal> Cybermagellan, there are a few good exim guides
[11:20] <Cybermagellan> All I'm trying to do is figure out how I can have a CMS forward mail to my gmail account for sending...
[11:21] <Seveas> Cybermagellan, just make sure the myhostname and myorigin (aka the contents of /etc/mailname) are correctly set to your domain name
[11:21] <Seveas> (in /etc/postfix/main.cf)
[11:22] <Seveas> That's the only thing needed for postfic to be able to send mail to the outside
[11:22] <Seveas> It can do it without that, but most outside mailservers will reject the mail if you don't set these parameters correctly
[11:22] <Cybermagellan> which the domain name would be localhost yeah? I mean that doesn't make sense to me...however?
[11:23] <Seveas> definitely NOT localhost
[11:23] <Cybermagellan> Didn't think so...
[11:23] <liz4rd> how do i install all of the screensavers?
[11:23] <Seveas> That's what makes servers reject it ;)
[11:23] <Cybermagellan> now I have a domain....
[11:23] <Seveas> Cybermagellan, want an example?
[11:23] <Cybermagellan> BUT it is being used....I would love one.
[11:24] <mindspin> anyone an idea how to get openoffice to show special characters (german) they print fine but don't show up on screen ?
[11:24] <Cybermagellan> I do better using examples and hacking apart code then I do going from scratch....
[11:24] <Seveas> Cybermagellan, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/192 , that's for my server: virtualschoolllab.nl
[11:24] <SpecialBuddy> I need help?
[11:24] <Seveas> the content of /etc/mailname is simply virtualschollab.nl
[11:25] <Seveas> SpecialBuddy, just ask :)
[11:25] <SpecialBuddy> how do you put a picture on the login screen next to your login name
[11:25] <SpecialBuddy> mine just shows a head with a question mark
[11:26] <SpecialBuddy> and I would like to put a pic in there
[11:26] <Cybermagellan> Seveas, now I own a domain...but a hoster has the DNS for it....that wouldn't let me use that domain on this box would it?
[11:26] <Seveas> Cybermagellan, yes
[11:26] <Seveas> it would
[11:26] <SpecialBuddy> I'm guessing I have to do something with the .xml file but I'm not sure what to do and it won't let me edit it anyway
[11:26] <Seveas> if the domain points to your machine
[11:27] <Cybermagellan> Which :( it doesn't
[11:27] <Cybermagellan> I have hosting through someone....
[11:27] <Cybermagellan> and the DNS is changed to them....
[11:27] <Seveas> is it your home machine?
[11:28] <Cybermagellan> the one I am trying to get the mail to work on yes....
[11:28] <Cybermagellan> the one the DNS is currently pointed at is no.
[11:29] <Seveas> just use ip68-231-152-140.tc.ph.cox.net is the mailname etc...
[11:29] <Seveas> that's the domain name your provider gives you :)
[11:29] <Cybermagellan> LOL...
[11:30] <Seveas> SpecialBuddy, good question, I'm looking for an answer...
[11:30] <SpecialBuddy> thanks
[11:30] <ubuntutou> hi
[11:31] <ubuntutou> can some one tell me how to mount my hardrive vi ubuntu live cd
[11:32] <Seveas> SpecialBuddy, create /usr/share/faces/YOUR_LOGIN.png
[11:32] <Seveas> If i interpret gdm.conf correctly, that should do it
[11:32] <SpecialBuddy> ok
[11:32] <flogiston> Hi.
[11:32] <SpecialBuddy> I'll give that a try
[11:32] <Seveas> ubuntutou, windows drive or linux drive?
[11:33] <flogiston> I need to change some settings in grub.
[11:33] <ubuntutou> both
[11:33] <flogiston> But i cant find were to chage it.
[11:33] <flogiston> Van anyone help?
[11:33] <Seveas> flogiston, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:33] <flogiston> Thanks :)
[11:33] <liz4rd> whats the package name for all of the ms fonts?
[11:34] <Seveas> ubuntutou, linux driver are mountable by simply creating mountpoints and mounting them, for windows drives http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab can come in handy
[11:34] <mejobloggs> are ubuntu's repositories browsable on the internet?
[11:34] <Seveas> liz4rd, msttcorefonts, available only on marillat
[11:34] <SpecialBuddy> how come my terminal isn't in english?
[11:34] <mejobloggs> wow, my pc just went nuts
[11:34] <SpecialBuddy> this just happened
[11:34] <Seveas> mejobloggs, packages.ubuntu.com
[11:34] <SpecialBuddy> wtf
[11:35] <Seveas> SpecialBuddy, hmm, have you perhaps been messing with locales?
[11:35] <mejobloggs> thanks Seveas
[11:35] <SpecialBuddy> I don't think so
[11:35] <estradin> hi, i have a little problem... ever since i installed kubuntu my gnome desktop doesn't work
[11:35] <SpecialBuddy> I just updated my computer so I just used my terminal
[11:35] <estradin> when i try to log into a gnome session
[11:36] <estradin> it just sits there
[11:36] <estradin> doing nothing
[11:36] <Seveas> SpecialBuddy, did that login image trick work..?
[11:37] <Seveas> estradin, how far does it get, do you see a splash screen..?
[11:37] <SpecialBuddy> it's in english but I think it's encrypted
[11:37] <SpecialBuddy> because I can copy stuff into it but it looks different
[11:37] <Seveas> SpecialBuddy, aaahhh :)
[11:37] <Seveas> it's just messed op
[11:37] <Seveas> close it and open a new one
[11:38] <Seveas> that sometimes happens when you accidently paste control characters into it
[11:38] <ciocanel> anyone can give me a hand configuring dual display(2 monitors) in ubuntu
[11:38] <Cybermagellan> So Seveas the SMTP server would be ip68-231-152-140.tc.ph.cox.net if I were to enter that into Thunderbird or?
[11:38] <Cybermagellan> Sorry for being so retarded
[11:38] <Seveas> Cybermagellan, no, that should just be localhost :)
[11:38] <SpecialBuddy> I tried doing that
[11:38] <Seveas> by default postfix listens only on localhost
[11:38] <Cybermagellan> Ah.ok
[11:38] <Cybermagellan> OK
[11:38] <Seveas> (and that's a VERY sane default)
[11:39] <mejobloggs> can i make ubuntu auto login at startup ?
[11:39] <Seveas> mejobloggs, yes
[11:39] <Seveas> mejobloggs, system -> administration -> login screen setup
[11:39] <estradin> Seveas, no, i don't
[11:40] <estradin> all i get is the wallpaper
[11:40] <estradin> and the pointer
[11:40] <lleberg> How do i burn a music-cd in hoary? :)
[11:40] <mejobloggs> cool bananas, thanks again Seveas!
[11:40] <lleberg> audio**
[11:40] <Seveas> lleberg, graveman / gnomebaker / k3b
[11:41] <lleberg> What's the package-name?
[11:41] <Seveas> estradin, hmm... have you tried deleting KDE again to see whether that help (deleting is easy: install debfoster, run sudo debfoster, answer y to all the questions except the kubuntu-desktop one, answer p there)
[11:41] <Seveas> lleberg, these are package names :D
[11:41] <lleberg> Damint :
[11:42] <Seveas> wb SpecialBuddy
[11:42] <Seveas> you don't need to logout to test the login screen ;)
[11:43] <SpecialBuddy> no
[11:43] <SpecialBuddy> thats not it
[11:43] <SpecialBuddy> my terminal is messed up
[11:43] <lleberg> Whaaat?
[11:43] <Nermal> type reset
[11:43] <lleberg> Why do i need he hoary cd to install k3b? :(
[11:43] <SpecialBuddy> it's looks encrypted or has a different font
[11:43] <Seveas> lleberg, comment out the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list :)
[11:44] <Nermal> lleberg, because you haven't commented out the cd source in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:44] <Seveas> SpecialBuddy, can you make a screenshot of it?
[11:44] <lleberg> He who searches will find!
[11:44] <Nermal> and run apt-get update
[11:44] <Seewai> hi - I'm trying to install ubuntu on an amd64 machine. Unfortunately the hoary install CD doesn't have support compiled in for my hardware RAID card (the megaraid2 driver). Does anyone have any ideas?
[11:44] <SpecialBuddy> yeah
[11:45] <Seveas> Seewai, it has
[11:45] <Seveas> try dropping to a terminal in the install cd and run modprobe megaraid
[11:45] <Seveas> SpecialBuddy, then please make a screenshot and put it online or mail it to dennis@kaarsemaker.net (aka me)
[11:46] <lleberg> Seveas: Just delete it? :)
[11:46] <Seveas> lleberg, or put a # in front of it
[11:46] <Seveas> has the same effect :)
[11:46] <SpecialBuddy> ok
[11:46] <Seewai> Seveas: my card is only supported by the megaraid2 driver, not megaraid :(
[11:47] <Seveas> owww
[11:47] <Seewai> megaraid is available as a module, but megaraid2 can only be compiled in
[11:47] <Seewai> and it's not :(
[11:47] <Seveas> hmm, I don't even see megaraid2 on my installed system
[11:47] <Seveas> ah ok
[11:47] <lleberg> uhm, what line was it now again? :)
[11:47] <Seveas> well, best thing to do is file a bug then
[11:47] <Seveas> and hope that they'll include it in breezy
[11:47] <Seveas> lleberg, the one that has cdrom in it :)
[11:48] <Seewai> is there anything I can do for myself though? :)
[11:48] <Seveas> probably one of the first lines
[11:48] <SpecialBuddy> I sent it
[11:48] <Seveas> Seewai, I don't see an easy option, you would have to remaster the install CD to use a kernel that you will have to compile yourself too
[11:48] <lleberg> Seveas: Do i have to update the apt-get after that?
[11:49] <biochemza> Help - I am an exWindows user, and I've just installed Ubuntu. I'm having a problem getting my internet connection to work properly. I use a proxy, and I am supposed to authenticate, but when I type in the proxy settings (in Firefox), I get just blank pages. If I check autodetect the proxy settings, Firefox works fine (no authentication), but the package manager won't work (presumable because of no authentication...) - now, could be that the sneak
[11:49] <Seveas> lleberg, you will have to run apt-get update once after editing that file
[11:49] <Seewai> I tried looking at the wiki, and there's a guide for remastering a livecd
[11:49] <Seewai> but no guide for remastering an install cd
[11:49] <Seveas> SpecialBuddy, omg... never seen that before....
[11:49] <james> hello, could somebody give me some advice on what permissions I should use in my web directories.  should I change ownership of the files to the apache user?
[11:50] <SpecialBuddy> it happened after I upgraded
[11:50] <Seveas> SpecialBuddy, does it happen in other programs? Does it happen in xterm?
[11:50] <SpecialBuddy> not sure how to fix
[11:50] <SpecialBuddy> haha
[11:50] <SpecialBuddy> since I'm a noob anyway :)
[11:50] <r0d>  everytime i try to compile any object file w gcc I get 'xscan.c:114: error: `xev' undeclared (first use in this function)' for all functions in the .c file. anyone know why?
[11:51] <SpecialBuddy> whats xterm
[11:51] <SpecialBuddy> ?
[11:51] <Seveas> xterm is another terminal emulator
[11:51] <Seveas> start it with <alt><F2> and type xterm
[11:51] <Seveas> james, the apache user just has to be able to read them
[11:51] <SpecialBuddy> nope
[11:51] <SpecialBuddy> thats works
[11:52] <SpecialBuddy> I don't have to restart do I?
[11:52] <Seveas> r0d, probably you need some header files, what are you trying to compile?
[11:52] <Seveas> SpecialBuddy, try it, it might just help :|
[11:52] <james> seveas: i am using a php app that needs write permissions within it's directory tree
[11:52] <SpecialBuddy> how do I put a file into that faces folder
[11:52] <SpecialBuddy> haha
[11:53] <Seveas> james, then give the apache user write permissions to that folder :)
[11:53] <SpecialBuddy> keep getting error
[11:53] <Seveas> SpecialBuddy, just create it as normal user and use sudo mv YOU.png /usr/share/faces/
[11:53] <ubuntutou> Thanks for the info..
[11:53] <SpecialBuddy> ok
[11:54] <SpecialBuddy> mv stands for move?
[11:54] <Seveas> yes
[11:54] <SpecialBuddy> k
[11:54] <james> seveas: does that mean I change ownership to apache user, at the moment user and group are both root
[11:54] <r0d> Seveas, xscan
[11:54] <Seveas> james, either that or chmod a+w /path/to/folder/
[11:54] <r0d> Seveas, it happens to anything i compile
[11:55] <Seveas> r0d, Ubuntu uses sane for scanning, not xscan...
[11:56] <james> seveas, I will try changing the group to apache and assign write permissions to that. I assume letting all write would be a bad idea.
[11:56] <Seveas> r0d, the 'simple' solution is: install apt-file, run apt-file update once, compile it again, see about which missing header files it complains, run apt-file search the_missing_header_file.h and see which packages you need
[11:56] <Seveas> james, indeed, what you just said is probably the best solution
[11:57] <r0d> Seveas, ok, but i'm use to xscan:\ old habbits i guess, plus everything I tried to compile so far has been being a b@#@#$
[11:57] <r0d> ok Seveas
[11:57] <james> seveas: thanks for the advice
[11:57] <Seveas> r0d, the recipe I gave works for everything you try to compile :)
[11:57] <SpecialBuddy> keeps saying no such file or directory
[11:57] <lleberg> How do i start k3b without starting it from a console?
[11:57] <Seveas> make sure you spelled it right SpecialBuddy
[11:58] <Seveas> lleberg, afaik it's only in the menu if you use KDE
[11:58] <lleberg> (i don't want the console window to be opend as long k3b is)
[11:58] <Seveas> but you can add it to the menu with smeg
[11:58] <lleberg> I don't use kde..
[11:58] <Seveas> if you start it with 'k3b &' (without the  '') you can close the terminal
[11:58] <apokryphos> lleberg: or just Alt + F2 > k3b
[11:58] <lleberg> Seveas: Thanks! :)
[11:59] <r0d> Seveas, does that make some kind of apt file?
[11:59] <Seveas> apt-file can search which packages provide which filenames
[11:59] <Seveas> very useful for missing headers :)
[11:59] <SpecialBuddy> the .png has an x in the top right corner
[11:59] <r0d> kool, that sounds like that sounds like a winner
[11:59] <Cybermagellan> Seveas, so if the mails are wating in queue...and flushing the queue comes back with postqueue: warning: valid_hostname: numeric hostname: 68.231.152.140 postqueue: warning: valid_hostname: numeric hostname: 231.152.140 what does that mean?
[12:00] <apokryphos> Seveas: are you sure the & tackles that? I was pretty sure that it only means you can put other commands in terminal... closing the terminal seems to terminate process
[12:00] <Seveas> Cybermagellan, no idea, i'm not that used to postfix...
[12:00] <Cybermagellan> Ah. ok
[12:00] <mejobloggs> what causes these 'horizontal scan bar line things' across my screen? They kinda stay there untill i waggle my mouse all over them
[12:00] <Seveas> apokryphos, ah crap, indeed
 does a setsid, so that's indeed better :)
[12:01] <jsimmons> how do you chdir into a folder that has spaces in the name?
[12:01] <Seveas> jsimmons, use quotes or escapes
[12:01] <jsimmons> ah
[12:01] <apokryphos> jsimmons: either use quotes or \
[12:01] <snowseal> my apps wont start anymore.
[12:01] <Seveas> like cd "path with space"
[12:01] <Seveas> or cd path\ with\ space
[12:02] <lleberg> Seveas: How to use smeg?
[12:02] <Seveas> snowseal, can you be a bit more descriptive?
[12:02] <snowseal> xmms segfaults and a wine app just dies.  10 ours ago it all worked.
[12:02] <mejobloggs> anyone know the ansewr to my problem?
[12:02] <Seveas> lleberg, www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg
[12:02] <mejobloggs> im sorry i cant explain it properly
[12:03] <snowseal> Seveas, sometimes the whole X dies on my overnoght
[12:03] <Seveas> snowseal, that really sounds like bad memory...
[12:03] <Seveas> snowseal, if you want to test this: reboot, choose memtest86 and wait for a few hours
[12:03] <Seveas> mejobloggs, do these lines also appear in screenshots?
[12:03] <snowseal> okay, where is memtest86?
[12:03] <Amaranth> Seveas: it'll only take ~40 minutes
[12:04] <Amaranth> snowseal: in the grub boot menu
[12:04] <snowseal> good!
[12:04] <Seveas> Amaranth, not if you do the complete test with all passes :)
[12:04] <mejobloggs> ill try get one Seveas
[12:04] <Seveas> Amaranth, do you have a trigger for smeg? :)
[12:04] <biochemza> Help - I am an exWindows user, and I've just installed Ubuntu. I'm having a problem getting my internet connection to work properly. I use a proxy, and I am supposed to authenticate, but when I type in the proxy settings (in Firefox), I get just blank pages. If I check autodetect the proxy settings, Firefox works fine (no authentication), but the package manager won't work (presumable because of no authentication...) - now, could be that the sneak
[12:04] <snowseal> so i'''ll try ' memtest86'  at grub prompt?
[12:04] <lleberg> Seveas: I don't think i've installed anything without using the apt-get command :P
[12:04] <lleberg> Seveas: How do i do this?
[12:04] <Amaranth> Seveas: It runs more than one pass to make sure the bad spots show the same everytime, but one pass should be enough.
[12:04] <Seveas> snowseal, yes
[12:04] <lleberg> deb or tar.gz?
[12:05] <guim> hi all
[12:05] <snowseal> my windowze also crashed after two days of uptime.
[12:05] <Amaranth> Seveas: If two passes show different spots though your RAM timing and/or frequency is wrong and needs to be corrected in the BIOS.
[12:05] <blehz> does Ubuntu support DVB card ?
[12:05] <snowseal> well okay, im rebooting. bye and thanx
[12:05] <Amaranth> Seveas: yeah, actually
[12:05] <Seveas> lleberg, on that site a gave you there's an install script
[12:05] <guim> is there anybody from Canonical here?
[12:05] <jsimmons> still won't let me chdir
[12:05] <Amaranth> guim: What do you need?
[12:05] <Seveas> jsimmons, use tab completion ;)
[12:05] <lleberg> Seveas: Oh
[12:05] <jsimmons> when I do a "ls", it shows up in Blue
[12:06] <avalente> jsimmons
[12:06] <jsimmons> does that mean anything special
[12:06] <guim> just ask a few questions
[12:06] <guim> do you work there?
[12:06] <avalente> check your alias, .bashrc, .bash_profile /etc/bash_profile or your shell's startup thingie... remove the alias ls= ls --colors
[12:07] <Amaranth> guim: Nope, the #ubuntu-devel channel would probably be better for talking to them
[12:07] <Seveas> guim, there are no canonical emplyees currently active in this channel
[12:07] <jsimmons> i use cd "/My Downloads" and it tells me "My Downloads does not exist"
[12:07] <guim> mmm ok
[12:07] <blehz> does Ubuntu support DVB card ?
[12:07] <apokryphos> jsimmons: try "My Downloads" without the /
[12:07] <guim> thank you, i hope I won't "disturb" them
[12:07] <Seveas> jsimmons, ditch the "/"
[12:07] <avalente> that was to remove the colors..
[12:07] <Amaranth> jsimmons: You want cd "My Downloads" or cd "~/My Downloads"
[12:07] <kestas> try My\ Downloads
[12:07] <apokryphos> jsimmons: there you're implying that My Downloads is in the root directory
[12:07] <guim> thanks for the info
[12:07] <Amaranth> guim: happy to help
[12:07] <guim> ;-)
[12:07] <jsimmons> ahhhh - no slash
[12:08] <james> hello, does anyone know which repository php4-mysql resides in?
[12:08] <Seveas> james, universe
[12:08] <CarlFK> james - http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=+php4-mysql&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all
[12:08] <CarlFK> eww... didt think it was that big...
[12:09] <jsimmons> okay, new question - i downloaded the smeg install script of the 3rdparty forum, but it doesn't "go" when I type the name and hit enter
[12:09] <Seveas> jsimmons, it says "Permission denied" i guess
[12:09] <jsimmons> no - it says command not found
[12:09] <d4rksh4de> hi
[12:09] <Seveas> hehe :)
[12:09] <Amaranth> jsimmons: chmod +x installsmeg && sudo ./installsmeg
[12:09] <mejobloggs> Seveas, how do i show you the screen?
[12:10] <mejobloggs> 30kb
[12:10] <Seveas> mejobloggs, can you mail it to dennis@kaarsemaker.net
[12:10] <d4rksh4de> how can i save network settings, every time i boot they will be lost
[12:11] <NoTrusTy> does Ubuntu support DVB card ?
[12:11] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, install cd or live cd?
[12:11] <jsimmons> after "cleaning up" it gave me this: "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process"
[12:11] <jsimmons> what's that mean?
[12:11] <d4rksh4de> install cd
[12:11] <Seveas> jsimmons, close all instances of apt-get/synaptic/aptitude etc...
[12:12] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, they should be saved in /etc/network/interfaces...
[12:12] <jsimmons> should i run that last command again?
[12:12] <lleberg> Seveas: How do i use this auto-install script?
[12:12] <d4rksh4de> ok ill check
[12:12] <SpecialBuddy> that didn't work
[12:12] <SpecialBuddy> the faces
[12:12] <biochemza> how do I check what proxy my internet connection is using?
[12:12] <SpecialBuddy> thing
[12:12] <SpecialBuddy> seveas
[12:12] <Seveas> biochemza, system -> preferences -> network proxy
[12:12] <Seveas> SpecialBuddy, damn :|
[12:13] <Seveas> hang on, i'll keep looking (want to know it kyself too :) )
[12:13] <Seveas> myself*
[12:13] <CarlFK> d4rksh4de - they shold be stored in /etc/networking... um... hang on...
[12:13] <SpecialBuddy> yeah
[12:14] <biochemza> Seveas - if I type in my proxy settings, Firefox doesn't work properly. If I check Autodetect, everything is fine (except that I don't authenticate properly)
[12:14] <SpecialBuddy> thanks
[12:14] <d4rksh4de> can't find them
[12:15] <jsimmons> ahhhhhhh - smeg is tits
[12:15] <jsimmons> :)
[12:15] <d4rksh4de> my DNS address will get lost everytime
[12:15] <CarlFK> d4rksh4de - me neither... i was just editing it a few days ago..
[12:15] <mejobloggs> sent it Seveas
[12:15] <d4rksh4de> ok
[12:15] <jsimmons> many thanks seveas
[12:15] <Amaranth> jsimmons: thanks
[12:15] <CarlFK> d4rksh4de - static or dhcp?
[12:16] <d4rksh4de> what?
[12:16] <jsimmons> (smeg is cool, but i wish installers did the menu addtion thing automagically)
[12:16] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, ahhhh, you use dhcp and manually edited /etc/resolv.conf i guess?
[12:16] <CarlFK> d4rksh4de - are you using dhcp?
[12:16] <Amaranth> sadly, i must now reboot into windows
[12:16] <mejobloggs> sounds bit of a lame question, but do you guys type out people;s names if you want to talk to them?
[12:16] <mejobloggs> or is there some nifty thing
[12:16] <Seveas> mejobloggs, <tab> :)
[12:16] <CarlFK> mejobloggs - tab.
[12:16] <d4rksh4de> whats dhcp?
[12:17] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, the opposite of static IP addresses
[12:17] <d4rksh4de> i have dynamic
[12:17] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, i thought so
[12:17] <d4rksh4de> ok
[12:17] <mejobloggs> does tab only select the last person?
[12:17] <d4rksh4de> im behind router
[12:17] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, please hang on, i'm currently trying to figure out something else, i'll help you in a few minutes
[12:17] <CarlFK> d4rksh4de - your dhcp server should be specifing the DNS addresses
[12:18] <d4rksh4de> u mean router?
[12:18] <biochemza> is there an ubuntu chat room for beginners?
[12:18] <d4rksh4de> yeah there is router address but it will do nothing
[12:18] <jamie_k> Could anybody walk me through a network install as descibed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetbootInstallRemarks -- I am getting stuck at TFTP
[12:18] <d4rksh4de> i cant connect to internet if i dont specify another DNS address
[12:19] <Seveas> SpecialBuddy, still there..?
[12:19] <mindspin> where do I set the default charset in (k)ubuntu?
[12:19] <mejobloggs> biochemza, i think im noob enough for this to count
[12:19] <CarlFK> d4rksh4de - type "ca" and hit Tab so I know who youare talking to
[12:19] <biochemza> :)
[12:19] <d4rksh4de> CarlFK, ok
[12:19] <mejobloggs> aha! that is how you use it!
[12:19] <CarlFK> d4rksh4de - your dhcp server should be specifing the dns IPs
[12:20] <CarlFK> mejobloggs - yeah, I kinda did that for you ;)
[12:20] <mejobloggs> heh, i figured that
[12:20] <mejobloggs> sorta
[12:20] <d4rksh4de> CarlFK, what u mean dhcp server?
[12:20] <mejobloggs> thanks
[12:20] <SpecialBuddy> I was afk
[12:20] <d4rksh4de> CarlFK,  i have router
[12:20] <liz4rd> ehhh... i member aq link on how to install gimp shop..but i forgot it any help?
[12:20] <Seveas> SpecialBuddy, in private chat i gave you the answer :)
[12:20] <liz4rd> it was the install for ubuntu
[12:20] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, hi :)
[12:20] <CarlFK> d4rksh4de - I am guessing "router" is a box that shares a single internet connection?
[12:20] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, hi =)
[12:21] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, you need to edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[12:21] <SpecialBuddy> ok
[12:21] <d4rksh4de> CarlFK,  yes
[12:21] <CarlFK> Seveas - I think that is the wrong way...
[12:21] <mejobloggs> d4rksh4de: your router can automatically give your computers different IP addresses or something. From what i understand, that is dhcp
[12:21] <mejobloggs> unless i have it totally wrong
[12:21] <Seveas> CarlFK, if the router is misbehaving, it's the correct way :)
[12:21] <d4rksh4de> mejobloggs, but it will not recognise addresses
[12:21] <mejobloggs> get my email Seveas?
[12:22] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, type sudo gedit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[12:22] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, ok ill try
[12:22] <CarlFK> Seveas- im thinking fix the dhcp server
[12:22] <Seveas> mejobloggs, yes, i'm puzzled, which graphics driver do you use?
[12:22] <biochemza> my package manager is failing to download the updates - any help?
[12:22] <Seveas> CarlFK, some routers don't have that ability
[12:22] <mejobloggs> um, whatever was installed default
[12:23] <Seveas> mejobloggs, odd, please file a bug and attach that screenshot and /etc/X11/xorg.conf to it
[12:23] <mejobloggs> Seveas: this also happened on mandrake too
[12:23] <Seveas> mejobloggs, please mention that in your bugreport too
[12:23] <mejobloggs> ok, i think i managed to fix it once
[12:23] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, in that file look for a line that starts with the word request
[12:23] <mejobloggs> let me just try some things
[12:24] <jsimmons> does add/remove programs typically take a long time to display a list of programs?
[12:24] <jeanre> I hate setting up windows boxexs
[12:24] <Seveas> jsimmons, that program will no longer work, it's a bug
[12:24] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, found it
[12:24] <CarlFK> d4rksh4de what is the make/model of your router?
[12:24] <jsimmons> well that sucks... :/
[12:25] <Seveas> jsimmons, try system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[12:25] <jsimmons> how do I remove programs then?  Thru synaptic?
[12:25] <djs> biochemza, is there an error message?
[12:25] <Seveas> jsimmons, yes
[12:25] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, ok, in the line after that you see domain-name-servers, remove that part
[12:25] <_linuxAS_> hi
[12:25] <d4rksh4de> CarlFK, cnet but theres nothing wrong with my router it works fine in windows
[12:25] <skyweb> hi *
[12:26] <CarlFK> d4rksh4de - tell Seveas ;)
[12:26] <biochemza> djs - tells me there may be network problems - I think its because I'm not gettting through to my proxy authentication page, and I don't know how to fix it (complete lunix noob)
[12:26] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, removed
[12:26] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, including the comma?
[12:26] <djs> biochemza, this is in synaptic?
[12:26] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, yea
[12:26] <Seveas> nice :)
[12:27] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, thats all?
[12:27] <Seveas> now make a new empty line before the line that starts with request
[12:27] <biochemza> djs - yes, but I can't bring up my authentication page in firefox either
[12:27] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, almost ;)
[12:27] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, ok
[12:27] <Seveas> on that line you write: prepend domain-name-servers YOUR_DNS_SERVER;
[12:28] <Seveas> then save that file
[12:28] <mhz> hi!
[12:28] <apokryphos> hi :)
[12:28] <CarlFK> Seveas - if d4rksh4de works in windows, why not figure out why it isn't woking here?
[12:28] <djs> biochemza, were you trying to do the 'smart upgrade'
[12:28] <djs> ?
[12:28] <Seveas> and if you want to test it (you will get disconnected) sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart
[12:28] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, done
[12:29] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, me?
[12:29] <Seveas> CarlFK, because this is the only way i've seen to make this work. It's a bit clumsy but does what it needs to do...
[12:29] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, yes :)
[12:29] <biochemza> djs, well, I haven't even tried to upgrade yet - I have just been trying to reload the packages, and it won't reload (this all started, btw, when I installed win XP service pack 2, but I don't see how it could have interfered with Ubuntu!)
[12:31] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, it should work now
[12:31] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, yes :)
[12:31] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, i got 3 more DNS addresses now
[12:31] <CarlFK> Seveas - um... make dhcp work?  if it "works in windows" I bet the dhcp server is working right and somewhere in the ubuntu config is something that needs to be fixed,
[12:31] <djs> biochemza, I suppose it could be an issue down the line.  Try "sudo apt-get update" in a terminal window
[12:32] <jeanre> I dont have sound on divx movies
[12:32] <jamie_k> Could anybody walk me through a network install as descibed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetbootInstallRemarks -- I am getting stuck at TFTP
[12:33] <biochemza> djs - I have connection refused error msgs
[12:33] <d4rksh4de> I'm still stuck with my graphics resolution
[12:33] <jeanre> my sound just mutes all the time
[12:33] <jeanre> d4rksh4de: whats the issue
[12:33] <djs> biochemza, how about "ping google.com"
[12:33] <d4rksh4de> jeanre, i can use only 640x480
[12:33] <djs> ?
[12:33] <jeanre> d4rksh4de:
[12:34] <jeanre> erm what graphics card
[12:34] <d4rksh4de> jeanre, voodoo 3
[12:34] <d4rksh4de> jeanre, i think that ubuntu is not recognising the monitor
[12:34] <jeanre> d4rksh4de:
[12:35] <abbas> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[12:35] <apokryphos> xserver-xorg
[12:35] <apokryphos> ..if you're on hoary
[12:36] <biochemza> djs ping seems to be ok - hang on, brb
[12:37] <jojo123> hey all
[12:37] <xabbu> Hey.
[12:37] <biochemza> back
[12:38] <jojo123> grub has .... erhm.... sort of made something dirty to my windows partition
[12:38] <xabbu> What?
[12:38] <jeanre> anyone had xine mute sound?
[12:38] <jojo123> grub can boot linux, but not windows
[12:39] <xabbu> hm.
[12:39] <jojo123> booting a win98 cd into dos mode and tries to access c: it says bad filesystem
[12:39] <djs> biochemza, how about "ping us.archive.ubuntu.com"
[12:39] <jojo123> but the wierd part is: i can mount hda1 (windows) in linux and read/write to it!
[12:39] <xabbu> What filesystem is it?
[12:39] <jojo123> fat32
[12:39] <xabbu> oh...
[12:40] <mindspin> can anybody tell me how to change fro utf8 to iso something charset?
[12:40] <xabbu> There should be no problem then. I guess.
[12:40] <jojo123> very wierd. never seen it before
[12:40] <jojo123> xabbu: i agree.
[12:40] <biochemza> djs - thats fine too. I'm almost convinced it has to do with my internet proxy settings and authentication
[12:41] <djs> biochemza, yes it seems so.  Interesting that ping works.
[12:42] <jojo123> xabbu:  i guess the easiest solution would be to reformat hda1 but i'm reluctant. I only use win for a game here and there. i want a quick fix :-)
[12:42] <biochemza> well, the weird thing is that my proxy settings don't seem to work at all right now - I have to click on Autodetect for Firefox to work, but then I don't authenticate. Thats fine, I surf all I want, but seems to be an issue for Synaptic
[12:43] <xabbu> jojo123, Im thinking of a way to fix it.
[12:43] <jojo123> xabbu: thanks. i did try to repair by "fdisk /mbr" in dos. I re-installed grub as well.
[12:44] <xabbu> btw, is there any good id3tag editor for ubutnu thats okey and quick to work with?
[12:44] <biochemza> ***biochemza ponders too
[12:45] <djs> biochemza, Have you configured SYstem -> Preferences -> Network Proxy  (sorry if previously asked)?
[12:45] <jojo123> yep, http://easytag.sourceforge.net/
[12:46] <biochemza> djs - yes...  (i'm convinced that this is all Microsofts fault, lol)
[12:46] <mindspin> can anybody tell me how to set default charset?
[12:46] <mindspin> or better where
[12:46] <Seveas> mindspin, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[12:46] <jojo123> xabbu: easytag can search and replace multiple tags as well
[12:46] <mindspin> thanks
[12:47] <djs> biochemza, Surely not :).  Does web browsing work while in XP?
[12:47] <locomorto> hey
[12:47] <jojo123> hi locomorto
[12:48] <biochemza> djs - no... lol, neither Firefox, nor IE are working in XP either. Everyone else is fine, and I am able to chat, so clearly the network is not down..
[12:48] <jsimmons> can i remove evolution? it says it wants to remove the gnome desktop too
[12:48] <jsimmons> correcttion - the ubuntu desktop
[12:48] <jojo123> jsimmons: gnome-desktop is a dummy file. safe to remove
[12:48] <locomorto> jsimmons, yes you can
[12:49] <locomorto> that is just a meta pacakage
[12:49] <jsimmons> k
[12:49] <djs> biochemza, Another thing to try in the terminal window - "wget http://www.google.com" - interested in any message
[12:49] <locomorto> make sure to reinstall it though if you want to dist-upgrade to breezy
[12:49] <d4rksh4de> i have graphics resolution problem, can anyone help?
[12:50] <locomorto> yes
[12:50] <locomorto> d4rksh4de: yes
[12:50] <biochemza> djs - resolving failed: Host not found
[12:50] <d4rksh4de> locomorto, ok
[12:50] <locomorto> d4rksh4de: what graphics card do you have?
[12:50] <d4rksh4de> locomorto, i can use only 640x480 and i have voodoo3
[12:50] <locomorto> ok
[12:51] <jsimmons> is there a gui tool that allows me to turn off unneeded services?
[12:51] <d4rksh4de> locomorto, i think that problem is with monitor
[12:51] <locomorto> do this in terminal : sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:51] <Seveas> d4rksh4de:  find out how you can change your display's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:51] <djs> biochemza, and ping www.google.com works?
[12:51] <abbas> d4rksh4de dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[12:51] <locomorto> then scroll down and when you see 640x480 replace it too what you want to use
[12:51] <Seveas> abbas, that's only for warty...
[12:51] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, tried and messed up everything
[12:51] <biochemza> djs, yes (by that, I mean, all packages sent and received, yes)
[12:51] <locomorto> then hit ctrl-alt-delete and re-login
[12:52] <locomorto> hopefully everything should be good
[12:52] <locomorto> make sure to save the config file first though
[12:52] <djs> biochemza, wierd
[12:52] <biochemza> djs - you're telling me?
[12:53] <biochemza> djs - and all since I installed XP service pack 2, lol
[12:53] <jojo123> jsimmons: it is called BUM
[12:53] <jsimmons> k
[12:53] <locomorto> biochemza: SP2 blows
[12:53] <jojo123> jsimmons: Boot-Up Manager. think you can find it at sourceforge
[12:53] <locomorto> just run SP1 from within qemu
[12:53] <biochemza> locomorto: yes, i know
[12:54] <locomorto> then you can use Windows XP AND linux at the same time :D
[12:54] <locomorto> windows just takes forever to install :(
[12:54] <djs> biochemza, Surely a coincidence.
[12:54] <biochemza> djs - i know... :(
[12:54] <LozPrime> I need to install Webmin on Ubuntu - synaptic seems to give me problems - any clues?
[12:54] <mejobloggs> eh, i have to create an account to use bugzilla
[12:54] <locomorto> LozPrime: what problems?
[12:54] <jojo123> jsimmons: found it! http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[12:55] <mejobloggs> bum is good
[12:55] <LozPrime> well it installs but doesn't run
[12:55] <biochemza> a friend of mine thinks that maybe the IT dept just installed Server 2003 SP1 on the proxy and that might be whats causing the problems, but no-one else has these issues?
[12:56] <LozPrime> a search on this came up with "First of all, and most important... DON'T use the webmin from apt-get or Synaptic. These are older files, and they will require 'root' as the login"
[12:56] <Fish-Face> Has anyone here had trouble running aMSN on Warty, or warty-backports?
[12:57] <biochemza> anyway, I'm going to reboot into windows, and try to get this working there... thanks everyone
[12:57] <djs> biochemza, Yet another :) - "wget http://66.102.7.147/" (www.google.com ip address)
[12:57] <Fish-Face> If I use tcl/tk 8.4, I get an immediate segfault
[12:57] <Fish-Face> If I use 8.5 I get a segfault upon coming online
[12:57] <biochemza> djs - same error, just faster this time
[12:58] <locomorto> LozPrime: dpkg --remove webmin
[12:58] <locomorto> then compile it from source
[12:58] <djs> biochemza, just to verify - "resolving failed: Host not found" ?
[01:00] <biochemza> djs - wait, sorry, now it says connection refused (not host not found)
[01:01] <biochemza> djs: "--12:54:20--  http://66.102.7.147/
[01:01] <biochemza>            => `index.html'
[01:01] <biochemza> Connecting to 66.102.7.147:80... failed: Connection refused."
[01:01] <michael__> hello, does anybody know how to solve the "Received signal 11, exiting..." problem in tc-elite
[01:02] <Fish-Face> wait, not warty
[01:02] <Fish-Face> hoary
[01:02] <Fish-Face> Does anyone have problems with amsn on _hoary_?
[01:02] <LozPrime> Being new to Ubuntu I've never compiled from source before - can you guide me?
[01:03] <d4rksh4de> how can i edit xorg.conf , it says permission denied :S
[01:03] <Seveas> sudo gedit xorg.conf
[01:03] <Seveas> Fish-Face, apart from that amsn is extremely ugly, no :)
[01:04] <Fish-Face> Seveas, it really isn't.
[01:04] <Fish-Face> I'm wondering whether some backport has screwed it up
[01:05] <Seveas> what's the problem then..?
[01:05] <djs> biochemza, Ooh here's an idea.  Edit your sources.list and change http to ftp and retry "sudo apt-get update"
[01:06] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, thanx
[01:06] <Fish-Face> Seveas, big-bad segfaults, but I'm wondering what package it is that did it
[01:07] <Seveas> Fish-Face, ouch :|
[01:07] <Seveas> have ou tried moving ~/.amsn out of the way?
[01:07] <biochemza> djs - you brilliant brilliant man (?) (sigh, all this because I wanted to download something to play some music... lol)
[01:08] <djs> biochemza, it still hasn't solved the port 80 (http) issue though.  A real puzzler.
[01:08] <biochemza> djs - i changed it in the package manager (not a terminal), but at least its downloading the new packages
[01:08] <xliu_> i want to reinstall firefox, how to?
[01:08] <Fish-Face> Seveas, yes I have
[01:09] <Fish-Face> Seveas, and rolling back amsn versions (I use CVS as a rule)
[01:09] <djs> biochemza, as you say it must be a proxy thing
[01:10] <xliu_> how to reinstall application?
[01:10] <d4rksh4de> I'm on 1024x768 now, =))))))))
[01:10] <Fish-Face> It looks like I'll have to roll back to hoary-updates, and then if I still want backports, to update one package at a time :@
[01:10] <biochemza> but ftp is all good, because it bypasses my monthly 50 Mb limit at the university, lol :)
[01:10] <biochemza> now, what is a good program to play music (like winamp for linux?)
[01:10] <Seveas> xliu_, sudo apt-get install --reinstall $APPLICATION
[01:10] <Fish-Face> beep-media-player
[01:11] <Seveas> beep-media-player indeed :)
[01:11] <biochemza> cool
[01:11] <biochemza> thanks
[01:11] <djs> biochemza, lol - the university will have to send the summons down under.
[01:11] <Seveas> there's an ubuntu skin fot it at ubuntulinux.nl/files/4Humans.tgz :)
[01:11] <xliu_> Seveas,  thanks
[01:11] <biochemza> djs :D
[01:12] <GrammatonCleric> speaking of beep-media player...
[01:12] <Seveas> yes..?
[01:12] <GrammatonCleric> is there a MAD plugin for it.
[01:12] <d4rksh4de> 2 problems solved: internet connection - ok, graphics resolution - ok
[01:12] <d4rksh4de> now i have sound card problem
[01:13] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, excellent score so far ;)
[01:13] <djs> biochemza, maybe the issue is that you've blown the 50Mb limit :)
[01:13] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, yeah and thanx to u
[01:13] <Seveas> GrammatonCleric, beep has an mp3 codec built in
[01:13] <biochemza> djs - yeah, but normally I get to a page telling me that, and providing a link to check my usage
[01:13] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, what's this sound card problem?
[01:13] <glDaher> hi, I'm trying to install photoshop over wine, but the installer is checking for free disk space and it fails...
[01:14] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, ubuntu is not reconginsing my soundcard
[01:14] <Fish-Face> glDaher, you want to go on the wine channel
[01:14] <locomorto> biochemza: amarok is really nice if you dont mind qt, and resource hoggishness
[01:14] <GrammatonCleric> yea but I was looking for the MAD decoder.  just a personal preferance.
[01:14] <glDaher> #wine?
[01:14] <GrammatonCleric> I think it sounds better
[01:14] <kestas> #winehq
[01:14] <glDaher> thx
[01:14] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, do you have an onboard soundcard and a regular one, or just one soundcard?
[01:15] <d4rksh4de> Seveas,  i have 1 soundcard
[01:15] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, i think its integrated
[01:15] <kestas> how do you know its not being recognised?
[01:15] <kestas> whats the error message?
[01:20] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, okay, first i need info :)
[01:20] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, type the follownig commands
[01:20] <Seveas> lsmod > audio_error_output
[01:20] <Seveas> lspci >> audio_error_otput
[01:21] <Seveas> ls -al /dev/dsp* >> audio_error_output
[01:21] <EL> hi
[01:21] <Seveas> and put the contents of the file_audio_error_output on a pastebin or mail me the file
[01:21] <Seveas> hi EL
[01:21] <rommer> Seveas, now i've found out that phpmyadmin isnt working properly after i've got php5 going, all ive got showing up is the vertical line that separates the left and right sides :S
[01:21] <EL> with GRUB, how would i make it so winxp is at the top of the list?
[01:22] <Seveas> rommer, i don't think phpmyadmin is php5 compatible
[01:22] <EL> by editing menu.lst, that is, but i dont understand it
[01:22] <Seveas> EL, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:22] <EL> ^ yeah
[01:22] <Seveas> EL, why do you want it on top per se..?
[01:22] <EL> what do i edit
[01:22] <d4rksh4de> ls: /dev/dsp*: No such file or directory
[01:22] <rommer> Seveas, yea that what i thought, but it checked it on php5 win32 and it works
[01:23] <EL> because my family use winxp
[01:23] <EL> i want the countdown for it
[01:23] <Seveas> EL, ah :)
[01:23] <Seveas> you can simply change the default boot entry :)
[01:24] <locomorto> resorted*
[01:24] <locomorto> that way i get CS2 from inside linux :)
[01:24] <EL> sry, what exactly do i change
[01:24] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, ls: /dev/dsp*: No such file or directory
[01:25] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, that's ok
[01:25] <Seveas> EL, put your menu.lst on paste.ubuntulinux.nl please
[01:25] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, then, where are the errors?
[01:26] <Seveas> the commands i gave you create a file, that contains some output i need to troubleshoot
[01:26] <EL> done seveas
[01:27] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, ok
[01:27] <Seveas> EL, change the line default      0 to default      4
[01:27] <Seveas> and it will boot winXP by default
[01:27] <biochemza> how do I permanently mount a partition?
[01:27] <stricjux> !n00b alert! what to do if you changed your user group to something else and you cant do sudo anymore?
[01:27] <ubotu> You are moron #1, stricjux
[01:27] <goldfish_> add it to fstab ?
[01:28] <Seveas> biochemza, put it in fstab
[01:28] <Seveas> is it a windows partition?
[01:28] <Seveas> stricjux, login as root and fix it :)
[01:28] <EL> ahh :( where!
[01:28] <stricjux> isnt root locked out by default?
[01:28] <Seveas> EL, line 12
[01:28] <Seveas> stricjux, recovery mode lets you login as root
[01:29] <biochemza> Seveas: its a "data" partition that I formatted as fat32 so I could use it on both Win and Ubuntu
[01:29] <stricjux> what if you dont have physical access to the mashine?
[01:29] <christophe> Hello,
[01:29] <stricjux> :)
[01:29] <Seveas> stricjux, by the way: ignore ubotu, you triggered it with the ! :)
[01:29] <Seveas> stricjux, hmm, then you have a problem
[01:29] <djs> stricjux, Just in case you don't know, ubotu is a bot which gave an automated response
[01:29] <Seveas> !n00b
[01:29] <ubotu> Seveas: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:29] <Seveas> !foo
[01:29] <ubotu> Seveas: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:29] <Seveas> see :)
[01:30] <stricjux> ie. my box is 2700km frome here.
[01:30] <EL> omg, im such a noob, sry, how do i un read only
[01:30] <stricjux> yeah, np for the ubotu
[01:30] <christophe> I need som help for kde please
[01:30] <jojo123> biochemza: /dev/hda7       /media/data       vfat    defaults,umask=000        0       0
[01:30] <Seveas> EL, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:30] <jojo123> my biochemza: my data is on /dev/hda7.
[01:30] <stricjux> so, no way of recovering my friggin access?
[01:30] <Seveas> biochemza: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[01:31] <djs> EL, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:31] <d4rksh4de> brb
[01:31] <stricjux> ...?
[01:31] <Seveas> bwah djs indeed
[01:31] <Seveas> i got messed up :)
[01:31] <Seveas> stricjux, not really...
[01:32] <stricjux> no way at all?
[01:32] <lleberg> How do i acces the network with shared folders from other computers?
[01:32] <EL> thanks alot
[01:32] <stricjux> damn.
[01:32] <Seveas> lleberg, places -> connect to server
[01:32] <djs> Seveas, I don't know how you can handle 3 queries at once like this :)
[01:32] <Seveas> djs, 3 is simple
[01:32] <Seveas> 5 gets difficult
[01:32] <EL> cyas
[01:32] <Seveas> 7 I consider a challenge ;)
[01:33] <djs> :)
[01:33] <christophe> How install kde withou kubuntu defaut setting??
[01:33] <Seveas> christophe, sudo aptitude install kde
[01:33] <christophe> ok thx
[01:34] <joesi> hi all
[01:34] <christophe> Very thank seveas
[01:36] <Seveas> hi joesi
[01:36] <christophe> Hi joesi
[01:36] <joesi> hi, hab da ein problem mit ubuntu, will das hier in meiner firma installieren...bisher hat auch alles super funktioniert, apt upgrade gemacht, dann hab ich mich eingeloggt, pc hat angefangen gnome zu starten, und beim starten friert der rechner jetzt jedesmal ein...
[01:36] <jojo123> hi joesi
[01:37] <joesi> should is speak english?
[01:38] <joesi> ok i try but dont joke ;)
[01:39] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, i was away a little, where i can find the error log file
[01:39] <jojo123> joesi, no probs. give it a go
[01:39] <djs> joesi, We won't.  Although there is a #ubuntu-de if you prefer
[01:39] <djs> s/We/I/
[01:40] <djs> * realises he can't speak for everyone on #ubuntu :)
[01:40] <joesi> i installed ubuntu on a machine at work...everything worked well! i did an upgrade with apt, installed kde with apt out of the terminal...then i logged in and it looked like gnome was starting...but its always freezing at startup, then i tried to login with a kde session...the same problem...its always freezing
[01:42] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, the file you created is audio_error_output
[01:42] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, it didnt create it
[01:43] <Seveas> it should have if you typed my commands exactly...
[01:43] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, i said that there was an error
[01:43] <Seveas> lsmod > audio_error_output
[01:43] <Seveas> lspci >> audio_error_output
[01:43] <d4rksh4de> d4rksh4de@d4rksh4de:~$ lsmod > audio_error_output
[01:43] <d4rksh4de> d4rksh4de@d4rksh4de:~$ lspci >> audio_error_otput
[01:43] <d4rksh4de> d4rksh4de@d4rksh4de:~$ ls -al /dev/dsp* >> audio_error_output
[01:43] <d4rksh4de> ls: /dev/dsp*: No such file or directory
[01:43] <Seveas> that the other one gave an error is irrelevant to it :)
[01:43] <rommer> Seveas, I read a FAQ at phpmyadmin.net that said yes it works with php5 ->  However, phpMyAdmin needs to be backwards compatible to php4. This is why you won't be able to run phpMyAdmin having enabled E_STRICT in your error_reporting settings.
[01:43] <Seveas> you should now have a file named audio_error_output in your homedit
[01:44] <Seveas> homedir*
[01:44] <rommer> Seveas, though i have no idea what that means
[01:44] <Seveas> rommer, error reporting isn't set to E_STRICT by default, so that's ok
[01:44] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, found it :)
[01:45] <rommer> Seveas, hmm ok
[01:45] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, whats the paste address?
[01:45] <Seveas> pase.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:48] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, pasted
[01:49] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, i miss a part of the output: the lspci
[01:49] <Seveas> try lspci > audio_error_output
[01:50] <Seveas> and paste the file again
[01:50] <mikael_> hi, I'm trying to build anjuta-2.0.0 on amd64, it fails at this error: has anybody seen it before: /usr/bin/ld: .libs/CallTip.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 can not be used when making  a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
[01:50] <Seveas> (close all editors before typing the command)
[01:50] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, ok
[01:50] <alonso> hi all!
[01:51] <jojo123> hi alonso
[01:51] <Seveas> mikael_, try CFLAGS='-fPIC' make
[01:51] <alonso> i just install ubuntu, i would like to know that how can i modify source.list to install additional software
[01:51] <mikael_> Seveas, thanks, I'll try it, I did LDFLAGS=-fPIC, but that iddn't solve it
[01:51] <Seveas> alonso: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:52] <Seveas> mikael_, afaik -fPIC sould be used when compiling
[01:52] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, pasted
[01:52] <mikael_> Seveas, I just thought because the error was with ld, but of course it still makes sense
[01:54] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, very odd, it doesn't even physically see your soundcard...
[01:54] <mikael_> damnit!
[01:54] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, yea
[01:54] <mikael_> Seveas, I still get the same error, do oyu have more ideas?
[01:54] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, in windows it works fine
[01:54] <djs> lspci
[01:54] <Seveas> mikael_, other than completely hacking up the Makefile.in to include CFLAGS by default: no
[01:54] <djs> sorry
[01:55] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, try: sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[01:55] <mikael_> Seveas, I'll try it out :)
[01:55] <Seveas> and see whether you have sound after that
[01:56] <alonso> Seveas:this link include all software that necessary for system, right?
[01:56] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, nope
[01:56] <mikael_> Seveas, I figured most of anjuta is written i C++ added CXXFLAGS=-fPIC
[01:56] <Seveas> alonso: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[01:57] <Seveas> mikael_, good one...
[01:57] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, then i'm out of ideas, sorry
[01:57] <mikael_> Seveas, yeah I have bright moments now and then
[01:57] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, ok thanx anyways
[01:57] <procrastinator> I have a machine with an onboard and a PCI sound card. How would I set the PCI card to be used, if I can't disable the onborad in the BIOS?
[01:57] <Seveas> mikael_, it won't hurt to add it to CFLAGS, CXXFLAGS and LDFLAGS :)
[01:57] <procrastinator> onboard even
[01:59] <mikael_> Seveas, it didn't work... I made make distclean, do you know how to add these ??FLAGS at ./configure-time?
[02:00] <Seveas> sure, hack up the configure script
[02:00] <mikael_> it's a lot of hacking getting this anjuta-thingie going :/ brb
[02:00] <Seveas> just before the calls to ac_subst, say CFLAGS=-FPIC $CFLAGS
[02:00] <Seveas> -fPIC even
[02:01] <Seveas> and the same for CXXFLAGS and LDFLAGS
[02:01] <d4rksh4de> I have soundcard problem, anyone can help?
[02:02] <alonso> Seveas: additional question is how can i change refresh rate for the monitor, because my refresh is only 60Hz
[02:03] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: have you tried to change IRQ in BIOS
[02:04] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, how should i change it?
[02:04] <mikael_> Seveas, I'll try that
[02:05] <jeanre> d4rksh4de: whats the problem
[02:05] <jeanre> do lspci
[02:05] <alonso> jojo123: how can i change refresh rate for the monitor, because my refresh is only 60Hz
[02:05] <jeanre> and look for the soundcard
[02:05] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: Since it works in win... First I would recommend booting windows, go to the device-manager. Check the settings (AND NAME) of your soundcard. Check what IRQ it uses and DMA.
[02:06] <mikael_> (added LIBANJUTA_CFLAGS=-fPIC $LIBANJUTA_CFLAGS also)
[02:06] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, ok
[02:06] <jeanre> jojo123: thats is not needed
[02:06] <Seveas> alonso:  find out how you can change your display's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:06] <jeanre> lspci is all we need
[02:06] <jeanre> d4rksh4de: paste the output of lspci in private
[02:06] <Seveas> jeanre, lspci didn't show the soundcard...
[02:06] <jojo123> jeanre: lspci gives error
[02:06] <jeanre> ok
[02:06] <d4rksh4de> jeanre, i type lspci in terminal?
[02:07] <Seveas> jeanre, and that is on the pastebin already
[02:07] <jeanre> well then dmesg?
[02:07] <d4rksh4de> oh
[02:07] <jeanre> see if it is picling up?
[02:07] <jeanre> picking even
[02:07] <jeanre> might just be a kernel stuff up
[02:07] <d4rksh4de> jeanre, what should i do then :S
[02:08] <jeanre> d4rksh4de:
[02:08] <Vjaz> that reminds me... I noticed that if I have my monitor turned off when starting Ubuntu, it uses 640x480 even though I usually use a higher resolution. I'm guessing it's autodetecting monitor features at startup, but is there a workaround?
[02:08] <d4rksh4de> jeanre, irq should be 5 and dma should be 1
[02:08] <jeanre> can you dmesg and page for the soundcard
[02:08] <alonso> Seveas: 'cause i just use it, Thanks for all answer
[02:09] <d4rksh4de> jeanre, tell me what i should type, coz i dont know
[02:09] <jeanre> dmesg
[02:09] <jeanre> :)
[02:09] <d4rksh4de> jeanre, ok :P
[02:10] <jeanre> now do dmesg |more
[02:10] <d4rksh4de> jeanre, lol i paste it?
[02:10] <jeanre> and page for the sound card
[02:10] <jeanre> d4rksh4de: are you on irc from that box?
[02:11] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, easy pasting:
[02:11] <jojo123> jeanre, d4rksh4de: ls /proc/irq/5         (i still believe in irq conflict)
[02:11] <Seveas> wget www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[02:11] <Seveas> dmesg | python ./pastebin
[02:12] <mikael_> hey, pretty cool I have an load of 9, 5, 3; and my box is still snappy :)
[02:12] <jeanre> jojo123: but why would it work in windows?
[02:12] <jeanre> :(
[02:12] <jojo123> jeanre: because win can work around IRQ set in BIOS by itself
[02:13] <jeanre> is it a onboard soundcard?
[02:13] <const>  !      
[02:13] <Seveas> const, hi, we speak english in here...
[02:14] <d4rksh4de> i pasted it in pastebin
[02:14] <d4rksh4de> no
[02:14] <d4rksh4de> in paste.ubuntu....
[02:14] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: is it a PCI card?
[02:14] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, dont know
[02:14] <const>  fack
[02:15] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: probably onboard then... just for fun, type "ls /proc/irq/5"
[02:15] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, what next?
[02:15] <jojo123> what is listed?
[02:16] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, where? nothing
[02:16] <jojo123> ls /proc/irq/5
[02:16] <d4rksh4de> d4rksh4de@d4rksh4de:~$ ls /proc/irq/5
[02:16] <d4rksh4de> d4rksh4de@d4rksh4de:~$
[02:16] <jojo123> oh
[02:16] <jojo123> crap
[02:17] <d4rksh4de> any ideas?
[02:18] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: If I were you, i would boot windows, check device-manager. Write down all info you can find.
[02:18] <nevado> what's the problem?
[02:18] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, ok ill do it
[02:18] <jojo123> Especially name/brand, irq, dma.
[02:18] <jojo123> Maybe a wierd chipset...
[02:19] <d4rksh4de> bye, ill be soon back then
[02:19] <jojo123> c u d4rksh4de
[02:21] <SliderMan> hello i need help
[02:21] <SliderMan> :)
[02:22] <Nevado> what's up?
[02:22] <Nermal> ask the question
[02:23] <jojo123> jeanre: that soundcard. Could it be ACPI that disturbs it? What do you think?
[02:23] <SliderMan> in terminal how can i download and install packge?
[02:23] <SliderMan> whats the command?
[02:23] <Nevado> apt-get install packagename
[02:23] <SliderMan> thanks
[02:23] <mindspin> sudo apt-get install packagename
[02:23] <Nevado> sudo apt-get install packagename rather
[02:23] <mindspin> ;-)
[02:23] <Nevado> :)
[02:24] <podge> quiet tonight?
[02:25] <mindspin> night?
[02:25] <mindspin> it's 2.24 pm here ;-)
[02:25] <mikael_> SliderMan, user synaptic from the System -> Administration menu instead
[02:25] <podge> mindspin: haha.. yep.. 10:30pm East Coast Australia..
[02:26] <podge> mindspin: Been doing anything cool with Ubuntu lately?
[02:26] <pinballkid> hi there, I would like to install ubuntu (or hopefully, kubuntu) on colinux. I am a complete newbie to both ubuntu and colinux, so I'm trying to find a good guide on how to do this. Could anyone point me in the right direction?
[02:26] <mindspin> 2:24 pm and Summer here ;-)
[02:26] <mindspin> what is colinux?
[02:26] <podge> mindspin: Cold here.. but no snow ..
[02:26] <mindspin> 34 'celsius here
[02:27] <podge> mindspin: colinux allows you to run Linux under windows..
[02:27] <michau_> hello @ all
[02:27] <michau_> i have q question
[02:27] <podge> mindspin: but not in the usual vmware style..
[02:27] <mindspin> is it cygwin based?
[02:27] <mindspin> michau ask
[02:27] <michau_> how can i get into the german UBUNTO IRC?? i am a newbie! sorry, geeks!
[02:28] <mindspin> join/ #ubuntu-de
[02:28] <pinballkid> mindspin, I dont think so: http://www.colinux.org/
[02:28] <michau_> ok! thx
[02:28] <pinballkid> mindspin: Its a way to run linux natively on windows
[02:29] <SliderMan> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad, why?
[02:29] <mindspin> funny stuff
[02:29] <goldfish_> SliderMan: have you added the extra repos?
[02:29] <SliderMan> no
[02:29] <jeanre> jojo123: brb
[02:29] <goldfish_> !repositories
[02:29] <ubotu> I heard repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:30] <goldfish_> SliderMan: follow that link
[02:30] <SliderMan> thanks
[02:30] <SliderMan> :)
[02:30] <goldfish_> np
[02:30] <rommer> where are the php and apache log files kept?
[02:30] <mindspin> "/var/log/apache/"
[02:30] <mindspin> "/var/log/apache-perl"
[02:31] <mindspin> depends on what is installed
[02:31] <mindspin> "/var/log" is always good for looking for logfiles
[02:33] <rommer> ok thanks alot
[02:33] <threat> ??
[02:35] <martin> I have a compile problem under ubuntu hoary... anyone willing to give a helping hand?
[02:35] <Mez> MartinHohenberg, go ahead and ask your question - we're here to help
[02:36] <threat> helloo?
[02:36] <MartinHohenberg> ok ...
[02:36] <jef_> hello
[02:36] <MartinHohenberg> configure: error: Your Installation isn't able to compile simple C++ programs.
[02:36] <MartinHohenberg> Check config.log for details - if you're using a Linux distribution you might miss
[02:36] <MartinHohenberg> a package named similiar to libstd++-dev.
[02:36] <MartinHohenberg> I have a strange error message during configure
[02:37] <threat> you know the busy server right now?
[02:37] <MartinHohenberg> well, libstdc++6-dev is installed. what can I do?
[02:37] <SliderMan> i do it but its still not working
[02:37] <SliderMan> :-
[02:37] <mindspin> g++ ?
[02:37] <mindspin> or whatever its called
[02:37] <mindspin> open synaptic and search for ++
[02:37] <Nevado> MartinHohenberg, sudo apt-get install libstdc++6-dev
[02:38] <emanuelez> hello
[02:38] <emanuelez> how do i check my cpu temperature?
[02:38] <SliderMan> i do it but its still not working
[02:38] <Seveas> MartinHohenberg, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[02:38] <Mez> MartinHohenberg,
[02:38] <Mez> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:38] <Mez> lol  Seveas
[02:38] <Mez> seveas - PM
[02:38] <Seveas> MartinHohenberg, sudo aptitude install libstdc++-dev
[02:38] <Seveas> MartinHohenberg, sudo aptitude install libstdc++6-dev
[02:39] <Mez> MartinHohenberg well, libstdc++6-dev is installed. what can I do?
[02:39] <d4rksh4de> im back
[02:39] <jojo123> hi d4rksh4de: what did yo find?
[02:39] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, i pasted my soundcard information in pastebin
[02:39] <jojo123> great. brb
[02:40] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, that what i could find
[02:40] <jef_> how do i change qwerty to azerty
[02:40] <Seveas> jef_, system -> prefs ->keyboard
[02:40] <goldfish_> GazaM: hello ! first dubliner i've seen in here
[02:41] <goldfish_> other than me i mean
[02:41] <GazaM> Goldfish your from dublin!
[02:41] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: I found a solution for you in ubuntuforums for this soundcard
[02:42] <jojo123> hang on
[02:42] <GazaM> That's great, didn't think there were many of us
[02:42] <goldfish_> GazaM: yus :)
[02:42] <d4rksh4de> i got 4 problems more: soundcard not working, keyboard problem, booting problem (not a big prob), power management problem
[02:43] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3647&highlight=ess1869
[02:43] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, ok checking
[02:43] <emanuelez> how do i check my cpu temperature?
[02:43] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: I really think that all can be connected to ACPI as well. Try to disable it by adding PCI=NOACPI in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:44] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: but see if the solution on ubuntuforums solves it first!
[02:45] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, ok
[02:49] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, how can i create file in /etc/ ?
[02:49] <mindspin> sudo touch /etc/dilename
[02:50] <mindspin> filename
[02:50] <d4rksh4de> ok
[02:51] <mindspin> d4rksh4de: disabling acpi is a solution for lots of weird problems i had
[02:52] <d4rksh4de> mindspin, ok, but how to edit this file?
[02:52] <jojo123> sorry i was away
[02:52] <mindspin> sudo gedit /path/filename
[02:52] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.conf
[02:52] <mindspin> sudo vi /path/filename
[02:52] <jojo123> or gedit
[02:52] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, ok
[02:52] <jojo123> haha
[02:52] <rommer> sudo nano -w /path/filename ;)
[02:53] <d4rksh4de> btw nano is like gedit?
[02:53] <sknroiws> I think so
[02:53] <mjr> nano is a textmode editor, gedit is a graphical one
[02:54] <sknroiws> Yeah they do the same thing
[02:54] <mjr> essentially
[02:56] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, i followed the solution...and  WARNING: Error inserting soundcore (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/soundcore.ko): Operation not permitted
[02:56] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: ok. we take it from the beginning
[02:57] <d4rksh4de> after that modprobe snd-es18xx
[02:57] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, ok
[02:57] <jojo123> sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/soundcard
[02:58] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, emty file
[02:59] <jojo123> Yep, that's ok. enter this information in the file: alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 (new line) alias snd-card-0 snd-es18xx (new line) options snd-es18xx enable=1 isapnp=0 port=0x220 mpu_port=0x388 fm_port=0x330 (new line) irq=5 dma1=1 dma2=0
[02:59] <MartinHohenberg> thanks for pointing me to the solution of that compile problem ... now how can I put a path to /usr/local?
[02:59] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: then save the file and quit gedit
[03:00] <atrogu64> connect calvino.freenode.net
[03:00] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, done
[03:00] <jojo123> sudo modprobe snd-es18xx
[03:00] <atrogu64> server calvino.freenode.net
[03:00] <d4rksh4de> d4rksh4de@d4rksh4de:~$ sudo modprobe snd-es18xx
[03:00] <d4rksh4de> d4rksh4de@d4rksh4de:~$
[03:00] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa start
[03:01] <d4rksh4de> jojo123,  ok
[03:01] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: that should be it. If you have a file called /etc/modprobe.conf, remove it
[03:01] <d4rksh4de> d4rksh4de@d4rksh4de:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa start
[03:01] <d4rksh4de>  * Setting up ALSA...                                                    [ ok ] 
[03:01] <jojo123> SUPER. congrats d4rksh4de
[03:02] <d4rksh4de> cant delete :S
[03:02] <d4rksh4de> no permissi9on
[03:02] <Seveas> you shouldn't delete it..
[03:02] <d4rksh4de> i made it myself
[03:02] <jojo123> Seveas: it is no longer in use
[03:02] <Seveas> ah ok
[03:02] <Seveas> nvm
[03:02] <jojo123> modprobe.d has replaced it
[03:02] <Seveas> sudo rm /etc/modprobe.conf
[03:03] <mindspin> !sudo
[03:03] <ubotu> hmm... sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:03] <d4rksh4de> modprobe.conf~    there is also this file
[03:03] <mindspin> this is kinda essential to everybody using (k)ubuntu
[03:03] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: you should have sound now. give it a go
[03:04] <d4rksh4de> wow
[03:04] <d4rksh4de> wooow
[03:04] <d4rksh4de> =)
[03:04] <d4rksh4de> THANK YOU
[03:04] <jojo123> magic!
[03:04] <d4rksh4de> ill check if i can play mp3 :P
[03:07] <d4rksh4de> no plugins for mp3? :S
[03:07] <jojo123> install the gstreamer-mad package
[03:07] <MartinHohenberg> I am trying to set up a custom $PATH variable to use under KDE - which config file is best suited for this attempt?
[03:07] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, where?
[03:08] <d4rksh4de> joj it seems like soundcard is working now...i can set speakers volume lol
[03:08] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: no mp3 due to legal issues. sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:08] <mindspin> d4rksh4de: go to synaptic and have a look, in kynaptic theres multimedia where you can check the packages
[03:09] <dockane> i would like to burn with nautilus out of "burn:///". the character coding does not fit and nautilus refuses to create the iso image. where do i find out _which file names are unacceptable for burning ?
[03:09] <d4rksh4de> d4rksh4de@d4rksh4de:~$ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:09] <d4rksh4de> Reading package lists... Done
[03:09] <d4rksh4de> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:09] <d4rksh4de> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:09] <mindspin> i use xmms without any trouble playing mp3 or ogg
[03:09] <d4rksh4de> where can i get it?
[03:10] <darkmantux> somebody knows if Gaim-vv in Ubuntu works...
[03:10] <mindspin> d4rksh4de: go to synaptic and have a look, in kynaptic theres multimedia where you can check the packages
[03:10] <mindspin> there must be something similiar in synaptic
[03:10] <d4rksh4de> minavana, synaptic?
[03:11] <d4rksh4de> mindspin, whete?
[03:11] <d4rksh4de> where?
[03:11] <mindspin> sudo synaptic
[03:11] <jojo123> d4rks4de: synaptic is the package manager (add/remove programs) for ubuntu/debian
[03:11] <d4rksh4de> ok
[03:11] <mindspin> its a GUI for package management
[03:11] <d4rksh4de> oh, ok
[03:12] <wizo> hmmm...
[03:12] <kahuna_> Hi. Can anyone help me with my Raid1? I've made a raid device with mdadm out of 2 empty ide drives. My raid is up and running according to mdstat. I've doen a fdisk /dev/md0 and put a linux partition on it.
[03:12] <d4rksh4de> hmm... and what i do there?
[03:12] <kahuna_> But I still have only /dev/md0 and not /dev/md01. Is that right?
[03:13] <kahuna_> How do I put a fs on the Raid?
[03:13] <jojo123> search for "mad"
[03:13] <d4rksh4de> nothing
[03:13] <wizo> while trying to install nvidia drivers from the ubuntuguide.org page, it says it cant find : /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:13] <wizo> any ideas?
[03:14] <mindspin> d4rksh4de: search for xmms
[03:14] <wizo> d4rksh4de, trying to install xmms?
[03:14] <kahuna_> Hmm. am I supposed to partition my drives before creating the RAID?
[03:14] <mindspin> trying to get mp3 played anyway
[03:14] <wizo> juz get xmms
[03:15] <d4rksh4de> search name:  xmms      results: none
[03:15] <wizo> hint: if u are using a nvidia card, and xmms doesnt work properly
[03:15] <rommer> is debian better than ubuntu as a server
[03:15] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, enable universe
[03:15] <Seveas> d4rksh4de: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:15] <Seveas> d4rksh4de: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:15] <wizo> O.O
[03:15] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, and use beep-media-player instead of xmms
[03:15] <mindspin> and dont forget to update
[03:15] <wizo> hint: if u are using a nvidia card, and xmms doesnt work properly
[03:16] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, universe?
[03:16] <wizo> do: apt-get install mikmod
[03:16] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, read these 2 websites :)
[03:16] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, ok
[03:16] <wizo> d4rksh4de, u have to update yur list first
[03:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi mez
[03:16] <sly> quick question what sthe resolution up from 1024x768
[03:16] <dockane> i am really annoyed of this behaviour: i need to know _which (!) files are not acceptable to burn
[03:16] <sly> one that sounds similer to 1028x1024
[03:16] <wizo> while trying to install nvidia drivers from the ubuntuguide.org page, it says it cant find : /etc/X11/xorg.conf, any ideas?
[03:16] <Seveas> 1024x960
[03:17] <sly> thankyou :)
[03:17] <Seveas> ubuntuguide.org is crap
[03:17] <Seveas> wizo, do you still use warty?
[03:17] <wizo> errr
[03:17] <wizo> hmmm, iim not too sure myself either
[03:17] <Seveas> type in a terminal: cat /etc/issue
[03:17] <Di42lo> Where should i add new fonts ? in which directory ?
[03:17] <lleberg> wizo: isn't ite Xorg.conf? :)
[03:17] <wizo> warty version
[03:18] <Seveas> wizo, warty has no Xorg
[03:18] <Seveas> lleberg, no :)
[03:18] <lleberg> damnit :P
[03:18] <Seveas> wizo, for good nvidia support, i really suggest upgrading to hoary
[03:18] <jojo123> dockane: if you use rox file manager it will show all wierd filenames in red.
[03:18] <wizo> hmm ok
[03:18] <sly> i better cntrl+alt+del now brb :)
[03:18] <dockane> i suppose nautilus uses mkisofs ... is there any log file where i could find which files are in wron condition
[03:18] <wizo> and how do i do that
[03:18] <lleberg> i hadI had some problems with the case sensitive-thingie a while ago :P
[03:18] <Seveas> Di42lo, /usr/share/fonts or ~/.fonts
[03:18] <Seveas> wizo: One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:19] <Seveas> wizo, it has to download several hundred MB
[03:19] <jojo123> dockane: I installed graveman for burning as well. very nice app. highly recommended
[03:19] <wizo> errrr
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> 445mb
[03:19] <wizo> sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade <== i juz paste that in?
[03:19] <Seveas> Kamping_Kaiser, depends on what you have installed
[03:19] <Seveas> wizo, yes, just paste it in a terminal
[03:19] <wizo> ok thx
[03:20] <Di42lo> Seveas: thx
[03:20] <wizo> i`ll give it a go
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> default upgraded is 450~
[03:20] <Seveas> indeeed :)
[03:20] <jojo123> dockane: maybe if you start nautilus from the terminal:  nautilus --no-desktop burn:///
[03:21] <dockane> jojo123, the same problem
[03:21] <dockane> jojo123, and no additional information on the terminal
[03:21] <jojo123> dockane: any error messages in the terminal then?
[03:21] <jojo123> oh
[03:22] <jojo123> what is the exact error you get?
[03:23] <jfh> testing <--- sorry, first time using this app
[03:23] <dockane> jojo123, have to translate it : " Failed to start making the image. Wrong character sequence."
[03:23] <sly> Seveas that reso didnt work , dunno why so............................
[03:23] <sly> i banged it into 1600x1200 i already wear specs why not make my eyes worse ?
[03:24] <jfh> <--- highly impressed with Ubuntu - easiest Linux install ever - wait, easiest install of any PC O/S
[03:25] <jojo123> dockane: never seen this error before. seems like you are using wierd characters somewhere in a file. I would try to burn it with "graveman" instead.
[03:26] <lleberg> Is there anyway to change from 64bit hoary to 32bit hoary? :)
[03:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> there's a chance, not sure about the logistics
[03:30] <d4rksh4de> where can i get repositories?
[03:30] <wizo> hmm
[03:30] <dockane> jojo123_away, graveman is a bit ... hmm, lets say : complex, for the case you have got some hundred files
[03:30] <wizo> d4rksh4de, read www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:30] <wizo> and read the first few pages
[03:31] <d4rksh4de> and how can i find beep-media-player?
[03:31] <wizo> erm
[03:31] <wizo> well
[03:31] <wizo> do yur list first
[03:32] <d4rksh4de> i have some kind of list
[03:32] <wizo> then try searching it in synaptic
[03:32] <d4rksh4de> search name?
[03:32] <mindspin> d4rksh4de: open the file /etc/apt/sources.list with sudo gedit and remove the # before the lines defining universe
[03:32] <mindspin> the file is kinda selfexplaining
[03:32] <tweakism> Hi y'all.
[03:33] <mindspin> # deb http ...universe
[03:34] <jojo123_away> dockane: graveman supports drag/drop just like nautilus
[03:34] <dockane> jojo123_away, and btw .... graveman is less helpfull .. it even does not say that there is somehting wrong with character coding. all it says : does not work
[03:34] <wizo> soo, as im downloading the upgrade, wads the difference between warty and hoary
[03:35] <topyli> wizo: age :)
[03:35] <wizo> erm, other than that? lolx
[03:35] <dockane> jojo123_away, i know ... did it that way but it opens every directory after drop what makes it complex to overview the compilation
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> wizo, a bit of a ui improvement
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> (? ) synaptic is now crap
[03:36] <jojo123_away> dockane,ah i c.  then all I can say is that you should try to find a program that can check/rename faulty filenames automaticly. I have no idea where to find that though.
[03:36] <wizo> user interface improvement?
[03:36] <dockane> or forces you to close each directory hirarchy
[03:36] <topyli> wizo: not much really. hoary works a bit better, there are small improvements all over the place
 (? ) synaptic is now crap <= errr, synaptic package manger is crap?
[03:37] <d4rksh4de> i found the beep-media-player package, but there are two of them
[03:37] <topyli> even in free software, six months is not really that much
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> in Hoary it is :S
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> i prefered wartys
[03:37] <wizo> wad do u mean by crap
[03:37] <dockane> jojo123_away, sorry to say: but graveman is some of the most complicated things to get a cd compilation above of 10 files
[03:37] <dockane> i will try k3b
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> wizo, repositires are way harder to manage
[03:37] <jojo123_away> dockane: not for me. i sort everything in folders before burning
[03:38] <d4rksh4de> what should i use beep-media-player or beep-media-player-dev ?
[03:38] <topyli> dockane: well there's a complicated piece of software for you :)
[03:38] <wizo> oh....
[03:38] <wizo> er
[03:38] <wizo> d4rksh4de,  use the player thingy
[03:38] <wizo> read the description in synaptic
[03:38] <d4rksh4de> not dev?
[03:38] <dockane> topyli, sorry for my poor english .. did not really get your point
[03:38] <d4rksh4de> lol yeah
[03:39] <topyli> dockane: k3b is more complicated than graveman, that's all. anyway, try gnomebaker too
[03:39] <marcin_ant> hi all
[03:39] <d4rksh4de> and how to install it now?
[03:39] <marcin_ant> could someone help me and tell how to configure fglrx driver on hoary?
[03:39] <wizo> so errr, upgrading to hoary`s... does synaptic work the same as warty`s anyway/
[03:40] <wizo> in synaptic?
[03:40] <d4rksh4de> yea
[03:40] <wizo> d4rksh4de, in synaptic?? juz double click the thing, make sure thebox is checked, then click apply at the top
[03:40] <topyli> wizo: yes
[03:40] <wizo> topyli, that doesnt bother me that much then =)
[03:41] <d4rksh4de> wizo, ok..downloading
[03:41] <dockane> topyli, not the number of options makes a gui complicated for me .. but the way of file and directory handling in this way. graveman is a good choice if you don' t need to choose i.e. a complete diorectory but _not this and that file plus that directory
[03:41] <wizo> d4rksh4de, it should do everything automaticaly
[03:42] <topyli> dockane: yeah. anyway, gnomebaker has a k3b-style intefrace but is more at home in gnome
[03:43] <wizo> i use xmms and xine player
[03:43] <toxicfume> hi all
[03:43] <toxicfume> Is there a network sniffer for linux that can also rebuild captured packets?
[03:43] <d4rksh4de> wizo, it has mp3 plugin?
[03:43] <wizo> erm, you will have to download plugins
[03:43] <d4rksh4de> wizo, coz i cant get it working
[03:43] <wizo> i know
[03:43] <d4rksh4de> wizo, ok
[03:43] <wizo> you will have to go download the plugins
[03:43] <ezili> g'mornin'.
[03:43] <mindspin> xmms plays witout any extra download
[03:44] <ezili> can anyone help me with a usb camera permissions problem?
[03:44] <ezili> i can only access my camera as root.
[03:44] <wizo> errr, i downloaded some plugins and .wma format plugins
[03:44] <d4rksh4de> where can i get plugins?
[03:44] <topyli> xmms has a zillion plugins but i don't know what's actually needed
[03:44] <mindspin> wma is adifferent story
[03:44] <wizo> www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:44] <x3r0> does ubuntu support the i915gm Graphics yet?
[03:44] <wizo> lol
[03:45] <wizo> but actually, i couldnt play mp3 when i first installed ubuntu too
[03:45] <mindspin> but i never needed wma
[03:46] <wizo> btw, im reading this article i searched and gotout from google
[03:47] <wizo>  It is very easy to upgrade to 'Hoary': just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list configuration file to replace all instances of 'warty' with 'hoary' <== is that nessacery?
[03:47] <x3r0> does ubuntu support the i915gm Graphics yet?
[03:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> wizo
[03:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[03:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> or doit in synaptic
[03:48] <wizo> mmm k
[03:48] <wizo> then wads this im downloading now?? O.o
[03:49] <goldfish_> wizo: yeah, replace warty with hoary and , apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:49] <wizo> sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:49] <wizo>   <== wad does that do
[03:50] <goldfish_> wizo: that swaps warty with hoary in the sources.list file and upgrades
[03:50] <topyli> wizo: it does the same thing with sed
[03:50] <dockane> topyli, tried gnomebaker ... everything's fine _but : why does it not support to create a directory in the compilation manually ? following situation: there is a directory i.e. /home/user/scanns ... i would like to burn ~/scanns but not all in it .. just a few. how do i get scanns in the root of the compilation _and my choice into it ?
[03:51] <goldfish_> i really should learn sed, it's a handy command
[03:51] <topyli> wizo: have a nice summer learning sed :)
[03:51] <goldfish_> hehe
[03:51] <wizo> heh, its winter here
[03:51] <topyli> dockane: dunno, i've never tried that
[03:52] <topyli> wizo: yeah, i was talking about next summer =)
[03:52] <wizo> LOLX
[03:52] <wizo> ooo so that command swaps all the warty with hoary
[03:52] <topyli> a few winter months goes without saying!
[03:52] <wizo> thats awesome
[03:52] <topyli> good for scripts
[03:52] <dockane> do i have to expect serious problems installing k3b on ubuntu, since its written for kde desktop ?
[03:52] <topyli> no
[03:53] <wizo> the only real problem i experienced so far with switchign from windows to linux is
[03:53] <wizo> writing my c programs
[03:54] <goldfish_> why's that?
[03:54] <goldfish_> much handier on linux i find
[03:54] <d4rksh4de> does ubuntu have c++ compiler?
[03:54] <goldfish_> yes
[03:54] <topyli> wizo: why is that? can't find $FAVORITE_EDITOR?
[03:54] <wizo> yes
[03:54] <wizo> gc++
[03:54] <goldfish_> g++
[03:54] <wizo> hahaa
[03:54] <goldfish_> :)
[03:54] <thenuke> d4rksh4de: you just have to install it first
[03:54] <wizo> im used to GUI
[03:54] <goldfish_> noes
[03:54] <wizo> like dev bloodshed c++
[03:54] <goldfish_> CLI > *
[03:55] <wizo> which u can code and compile in the same program
[03:55] <psychonate> then use kdevelop or something
[03:55] <topyli> emacs
[03:55] <wizo> i got emacs
[03:55] <topyli> anjuta? not sure
[03:55] <wizo> and im still struggling to learn that program lolx >.<
[03:55] <MartinHohenberg> I get the following error if I try modprobe ndiswrapper under hoary: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:55] <MartinHohenberg> any ideas on that one?
[03:55] <thenuke> MartinHohenberg: sudo modprobe
[03:56] <wizo> sudo?
[03:56] <thenuke> MartinHohenberg: it happens because you are not root
[03:56] <psychonate> yeah, anjuta might do it for you
[03:56] <wizo> thats my rough guess on seeing Operation not permitted
[03:56] <MartinHohenberg> thenuke: jupp, just forgot to mention it.
[03:56] <psychonate> http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/anjuta.php?page=screenshots
[03:56] <thenuke> wizo: man sudo, whatis sudo, sudo==superuser do
[03:56] <wizo> yeh
[03:56] <MartinHohenberg> thenuke: negative. this is if I am root, too
[03:57] <BeTa> hi, is there a smart tool to switch from TFT to VGA out (on a powerbook) ?
[03:57] <MartinHohenberg> I even tried that "Root shell" in gnome
[03:57] <grimse> hi, how to get information about used pcmcia-card-driver?
[03:57] <sladen> win 85
[03:57] <blazin> my .bash_profile is not sourced when i login, anyone can help?
[03:57] <goldfish_> grimse: lspci ?
[03:57] <thenuke> MartinHohenberg: tried with verbosemode too?
[03:57] <goldfish_> blazin: are you trying to put aliases in it ?
[03:57] <MartinHohenberg> thenuke: verbose mode?
[03:57] <thenuke> -v
[03:57] <thenuke> it might give more info about the problem
[03:58] <grimse> goldfish_, thx
[03:58] <goldfish_> np
[03:58] <wizo> hmm, i downloaded like 1000mb of stuff this mornign when i reinstalled ubuntu
[03:58] <wizo> and now im downloading more =s
[03:58] <MartinHohenberg> thenuke: well, in this case, it doesn't. there now is another line preceding the error message: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/misc/ndiswrapper.ko
[03:58] <blazin> goldfish_, nope, i am changing the PATH, etc...
[03:59] <goldfish_> blazin: use .bashrc instead of .bash_profile
[03:59] <blazin> goldfish_, ok. i will try.
[04:00] <goldfish_> has anyone installed uplink on ubuntu ?
[04:00] <wizo> uplink? wads that
[04:00] <goldfish_> a game
[04:00] <psychonate> do people even still play that?
[04:00] <goldfish_> some do :)
[04:01] <wizo> hmm
[04:01] <goldfish_> wizo: it's an old hacking game
[04:01] <goldfish_> like strret hacker
[04:01] <goldfish_> *street
[04:01] <blazin> goldfish_, nope, it doesnt work. i log in from the text mode console, does it matter?
[04:01] <wizo> did u guys unpack smth like 1000+mb of stuff when installign ubuntu and it asked if u would like to download stuff from the net?
[04:02] <wizo> ooo icic, sounds cool
[04:02] <goldfish_> blazin: ok, did you 'source /home/blah/.bashrc after u edited it?
[04:03] <dockane> k3b works , thnx jojo123 and topyli
[04:03] <blazin> goldfish_, if i source it manually, then it works. but after log out and login again, it's gone. seems like it's not sourced at login
[04:03] <topyli> dockane: ok, adequately coolish :)
[04:04] <goldfish_> blazin: even with .bashrc ?
[04:04] <blazin> goldfish_, yes... :(
[04:04] <goldfish_> hmmm, strange
[04:05] <seifu> blazin: what's in ur .bash_profile?
[04:06] <dockane> topyli, again i do not get what you mean but don't care ;). soon or later i will make my own backup script with mkisofs and cdrecord or seomthing like this
[04:06] <topyli> blazin: yes, bashrc should be sourced in profile
[04:06] <seifu> yeah...
[04:07] <blazin> seifu, can i paste here? or in #flood
[04:07] <wizo> did u guys unpack smth like 1000+mb of stuff when installign ubuntu and it asked if u would like to download stuff from the net?
[04:07] <wizo> erm
[04:07] <wizo> check out the channel topic
[04:07] <topyli> dockane: why write backup scripts when you can just steal one? :)
[04:08] <seifu> one sec
[04:08] <dockane> topyli, of course i am not going to reinvent the wheel but i will adopt something to my needs
[04:08] <topyli> dockane: yep. freshmeat is full of nice scripts you can build on
[04:09] <ciocanel> hello, i'm trying to configure my x, and X -configure gives me this strage error message "Missing output drivers"... can anyone please tell me what it means?
[04:10] <seifu> blazin: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/199
[04:10] <seifu> check the url, put the contents in ur .bash_profile
[04:10] <blazin> ok
[04:11] <seifu> and remember to [re] source, or just quit and restart the terminal
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> ciocanel, did sounds like your kernel modules missing (iirc)
[04:11] <blazin> seifu, pasted there
[04:12] <lleberg> In firefox, why do i get the "the document contains no data" all the time?
[04:12] <lleberg> i don't want it :(
[04:12] <blazin> seifu, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/200
[04:12] <seifu> yeah... already there
[04:12] <ciocanel> Kamping_Kaiser, this is kinna stupid, 'cause i can run x only in 640X480... but yesterday was 1024X768 :-)
[04:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> ciocancel, have you upgraded the kernel/your driver module?
[04:13] <ciocanel> Kamping_Kaiser, no.
[04:13] <seifu> that's ur entire .bash_profile? so it already included the " . ~/.bashrc
[04:13] <seifu> "
[04:13] <seifu> ?
[04:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> ciocancel, I'm not sure what it could be
[04:13] <blazin> seifu, that's all the contents
[04:14] <seifu> extra weird
[04:14] <goldfish_> indeed
[04:14] <blazin> seifu, it's not sourced at login, i don't know why. i need to manually source it.
[04:14] <ciocanel> Kamping_Kaiser, just added another video card, couldn't manage to configure it and unplug it... and now, after dpk-recofigure it gives me this stupid error message
[04:15] <blazin> seifu, if i use $ su - user1
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> so you changed the card? from what to what ?
[04:15] <blazin> seifu, then it's sourced, but not at login
[04:15] <nes> Hi people... I have a question: I can't write on my ubuntu shared folders accessing from a windows machine. Despite my efforts, it's always on read-only mode... how can I change it?
[04:15] <topyli> blazin: your profile is fine. perhaps /etc/profile is sick?
[04:15] <ciocanel> Kamping_Kaiser, now it's a intel i810
[04:15] <blazin> topyli, i didn't touch it since install
[04:15] <ciocanel> ciocanel, before an old ati
[04:15] <ciocanel> stuipid me
[04:15] <nes> On the other hand, I can access and write windows shared folders...
[04:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> ciocanel. hvae you tried the vesa driver?
[04:16] <topyli> blazin: something still might have changed it... but this is fishing with long rods :)
[04:16] <ciocanel> Kamping_Kaiser, not yet... I managed to make it work a week ago, with the i810 module, but I don't remember how...
[04:16] <wizo> nes, try reading www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:17] <jdthood> Woo hoo.  I just dist-upgraded to breezy, and what do I read in the topic?...
[04:17] <wizo> i think they have an article on hwo to read from ubuntu
[04:17] <wizo> in windows
[04:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> ciocanel, quite a few people with i810s been here. not sure what's happend
[04:17] <seifu> yeah:... blazin: do a cat /etc/profile and paste it at paste.ubuntulinux.nl, let's see
[04:17] <blazin> topyli, i just install hoary last night, and the apt-get upgrade
[04:17] <blazin> fresh install.
[04:17] <ciocanel> Kamping_Kaiser, ok, thanks, back to text mode :-D
[04:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;) sorry
[04:18] <topyli> blazin: ok, it shouldn't get rotten this quickly :)
[04:18] <seifu> [brb] 
[04:19] <blazin> seifu, line 001 to 029.
[04:19] <blazin> seifu, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/201
[04:20] <blazin> topyli, :)
[04:20] <blazin> topyli, if i use 'su - username' then it's fine.
[04:21] <topyli> blazin: what if you open a login shell with, say, "xterm -ls"
[04:21] <Fnoy> how do you open rar files in lnux?
[04:21] <avinoam> Can I use the newest kernel with ubuntu?
[04:21] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: try to offer the chat again
[04:22] <mjr> avinoam, certainly, but wouldn't recommend it unless you have something spesific you need in there
[04:22] <topyli> Fnoy: with rar :)
[04:22] <avinoam> mjr i see
[04:22] <Fnoy> pleas help
[04:22] <avinoam> mjr i like screwing around with my linux
[04:22] <Fnoy> im a really n00b to linux
[04:22] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, Already offering CHAT to jojo123
[04:23] <mjr> avinoam, ok; well, if you want to roll your own, I'd recommend using kernel-package's make-kpkg; it rolls the kernels into deb packages
[04:23] <avinoam> mjr i havve no idea what that is
[04:23] <blazin> topyli, cant do that right now, i am logged in as another user. all the login tests done at tty1,2,3...etc
[04:23] <topyli> Fnoy: http://ubuntuguide.org/#rar
[04:24] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, whatever...
[04:24] <avinoam> mjr what are advantages of recompiling kernel?
[04:24] <mindspin> avinoam: screw around your linux without building custom kernel
[04:24] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: doesn't seem to work. anyway, did it work?
[04:24] <mjr> avinoam, that's why I said it
[04:24] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, still these things are not working :S
[04:24] <mjr> avinoam, nothing much; if you don't know, don't :)
[04:24] <avinoam> mjr cuz i'm bored
[04:24] <jojo123> are you using gnome or kde?
[04:24] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, sound error the same
[04:24] <topyli> blazin: well it's all the same. those are login shells too :)
[04:24] <avinoam> mjr and there's the educational aspect
[04:24] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, restarting problem still smae
[04:25] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, but i noticed something
[04:25] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: even restarts? wierd wierd wierd.
[04:25] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: yeah?
[04:25] <mindspin> compiling kernel is buzzword bingo for schoolyard nerds
[04:25] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, when booting.. several times said irq=5 error  ignoring line
[04:25] <mindspin> as for noobs talking about that
[04:26] <mindspin> theres definitely no need for
[04:26] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, what was the file name?
[04:26] <jojo123> d4rksh4de: you still have sound though?
[04:26] <mindspin> unless you have special hardware
[04:26] <truz24> can you use dd to make an image of a drive but only the space used ?
[04:26] <jojo123> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:26] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, i cant play mp3
[04:26] <mindspin> try du truz
[04:26] <jojo123> "resource busy"
[04:26] <Nermal> install the extra codecs
[04:27] <mindspin> du >diskusage.txt
[04:27] <Nermal> oh..ignore that
[04:27] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, and no sound again :(
[04:27] <jojo123> Nermal: libmad0 installed
[04:27] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, i think the file is missing
[04:27] <blazin> topyli, seifu, sorry guys, i just found out that the user's default shell is not bash, i created the user like 'useradd xxx', seems the default shell is assigned '/bin/sh'
[04:27] <Nermal> boot with pci=noacpi
[04:27] <avinoam> My biggest annoyance is that my cable modem keeps disconnecting when i don't actively use the computer
[04:27] <truz24> mindspin, That gives me disk usage, i want to install ubuntu, then make a fresh image of it... but if I install it on a 200 gig, i can't burn a 200 gig image on a dvd....
[04:27] <wizo> d4rksh4de, wad were u trying to do?
[04:27] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, was it modprobe.d ?
[04:27] <jojo123> modprobe snd-es18xx
[04:28] <mindspin> ic
[04:28] <d4rksh4de> wizo, sound problems
[04:28] <jojo123> you don't have to edit the file again
[04:28] <wizo> hmm
[04:28] <wizo> did u have sound when u installed ubuntu?
[04:28] <topyli> blazin: sh is bash by default
[04:28] <Fnoy> /home/fnoy # sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[04:28] <Fnoy> Reading package lists... Done
[04:28] <Fnoy> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:28] <Fnoy> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[04:28] <Fnoy> why cant i install it
[04:28] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, warnings and fatal errors
[04:29] <mbirkis> Fnoy: what architecture are you installing on?
[04:29] <jojo123> sudo modprobe snd-es18xx
[04:29] <jojo123> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa start
[04:29] <d4rksh4de> wizo, no
[04:29] <topyli> Fnoy: you don't have the extra repositories added
[04:29] <Fnoy> what should i do
[04:29] <gorilla_> !restricted
[04:29] <ubotu> well, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:29] <topyli> Fnoy: read ubuntuguide.org
[04:29] <d4rksh4de> jojo123, alsa ok
[04:29] <wizo> Fnoy, go to ubuntuguide.org
[04:29] <Fnoy> ok ok
[04:30] <blazin> topyli, i just manually changed it to /bin/bash, then it;s all working fine now.
[04:30] <blazin> weird
[04:30] <wizo> aww man
[04:30] <topyli> blazin: very weird. what does 'ls -l /bin/sh' tell you
[04:30] <wizo> downloading the upgrade sure takes ages
[04:30] <blazin> topyli, /bin/sh -> bash
[04:31] <topyli> hrm
[04:31] <blazin> topyli, i think bash wants to act like sh when you call him sh, :P
[04:31] <Nermal> need a drink
[04:31] <trupina_> could you help me i have this simple problem i just need to know how to change port in gnome bittorretnt
[04:32] <Di42lo> damn it i got overflow and the openoffice was closed while saving... i lost all the info
[04:32] <trupina_> ?
[04:32] <OnoSendai> Hey all
[04:32] <nictuku> Hi, I have a problem exactly like http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-39838.html in a recent hoary installation.
[04:32] <wizo> O.O
[04:32] <wizo> hoary installation?
[04:32] <nictuku> I have two scsi disk configured in a software RAID in the root partition. Is that supposed to work? It boots..
[04:32] <OnoSendai> Looking for some help getting dual monitor support going, I want to extend the desktop to the second monitor instead of it just showing the same thing
[04:32] <OnoSendai> Is this possible?
[04:33] <nictuku> i have that setup, OnoSendai, for a nvidia card.
[04:33] <OnoSendai> yeah i have an ATI X300
[04:33] <nictuku> that's different then.
[04:34] <njan> anyone here regularly using breezy?
[04:34] <mindspin> truz24: what about makeisofs ?
[04:34] <OnoSendai> well the second monitor *does* show something
[04:34] <OnoSendai> i just want the desktop to be extended to it, rather than duplicated on it
[04:34] <trupina_> anyone here could help me with my bittorent ?
[04:35] <trupina_> ?
[04:35] <trupina_> hello
[04:35] <wizo> err
[04:35] <nictuku> OnoSendai:         Option      "TwinView"                 "true"
[04:35] <nictuku> that should do it, OnoSendai.
[04:36] <trupina_> what about bittorent*
[04:36] <topyli> blazin: there are hundreds of scripts on your system that set the sell to /bin/sh. let's hope they work :)
[04:36] <nictuku> trupina_: don't ask to ask. ask!
[04:36] <blazin> topyli, :)
[04:36] <Fnoy> /home/fnoy # sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[04:36] <Fnoy> Reading package lists... Done
[04:36] <Fnoy> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:36] <Fnoy> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[04:36] <psychonate> OnoSendai, ah, I can help you with that.
[04:36] <Fnoy> im going crazy
[04:36] <mindspin> trupina_ asked but no one here uses bittorrent ;-)
[04:36] <trupina_> WHAT IS IN BITTORENT META FILE
[04:36] <Fnoy> help...........
[04:37] <OnoSendai> which option is this, sorry nictuku?
[04:37] <topyli> Fnoy: have you edited sources.list? have you run apt-get update?
[04:37] <trupina_> ok then how to instal any program ?
[04:37] <Nermal> trupina_, hush
[04:37] <Fnoy> no
[04:37] <trupina_> example lemule?
[04:37] <psychonate> OnoSendai, Option          "TwinViewOrientation"   "LeftOf"
[04:38] <psychonate> OnoSendai, or RightOf heh
[04:38] <OnoSendai> um ok
[04:38] <OnoSendai> but what are these options?
[04:38] <OnoSendai> how do I change them?
[04:38] <psychonate> OnoSendai, for your xorg.conf
[04:38] <OnoSendai> ah
[04:38] <psychonate> OnoSendai, you need to open up your xorg.conf in an editor
[04:38] <trupina_> no!
[04:38] <OnoSendai> good old config file editing eh :)
[04:38] <Nermal> yes!
[04:38] <psychonate> OnoSendai, yep
[04:38] <jino> hi all
[04:39] <OnoSendai> hmm I'll give it a try, brb
[04:39] <mindspin> trupina_: sudo synaptic
[04:39] <jino> i wanna install yahoo mesenger onmy system...
[04:39] <topyli> Fnoy: ok, you have to actually read the instructions on ubuntuguide.org, just visiting the page doesn't quite suffice
[04:39] <psychonate> OnoSendai, you can look at my twinview xorg file if you wish
[04:39] <jino> how to go about it
[04:39] <Nermal> jino, use gaim
[04:40] <trupina_> what does sudo synaptic mean ?
[04:40] <jino> Nermal: can i login wid my yaoo id in gaim
[04:40] <wizo> who
[04:40] <mindspin> it starts the package manager
[04:40] <Nermal> jino, would I suggest it otherwise ?
[04:40] <wizo> whoa, twice as many users in gentoo than in ubuntu
[04:40] <Nermal> gaim does yahoo, icq, msn, irc, jabber, aol, etc
[04:40] <topyli> jino: gaim logs into any protocol
[04:40] <topyli> almost
[04:40] <gorilla_> trupina_, synaptic is a package manager, sudo will run a command as root.
[04:40] <Fnoy> topyli it stoped at 50%
[04:40] <Fnoy>  apt-get update
[04:40] <mindspin> there you can select the program you want to install
[04:40] <Fnoy> Err http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release.gpg
[04:40] <Fnoy>   Temporary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com'
[04:40] <Fnoy> Err http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release.gpg
[04:40] <Fnoy>   Temporary failure resolving 'fi.archive.ubuntu.com'
[04:40] <Fnoy> 40% [Connecting to fi.archive.ubuntu.com]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com] 
[04:40] <Nermal> Fnoy, hush
[04:40] <OnoSendai> Which section does it go in?
[04:41] <jino> thanx..
[04:41] <psychonate> wizo, do you know why? It takes twice as much effort to get Gentoo up and running.
[04:41] <trupina_> do i have to download it or is it already here
[04:41] <Nermal> trupina_, what ?
[04:41] <wizo> LOLX
[04:41] <psychonate> OnoSendai, the "Device" section
[04:41] <OnoSendai> k
[04:41] <wizo> good one psychonate ;)
[04:41] <Nermal> suprisingly, the package manager is already installed
[04:41] <psychonate> OnoSendai, can I PM you? I will show you my section as an example.
[04:41] <jono> anyone know how to switch to projector display when using ubuntu on a powerbook
[04:41] <wizo> is gentoo THAT hard?
[04:41] <trupina_> i didnt understand you either
[04:41] <Nermal> wizo, not really
[04:42] <wizo> =/
[04:42] <psychonate> wizo, it's hard if you are not familiar with linux; otherwise, it is just time-consuming.
[04:42] <topyli> wizo: it just takes time, it's not that difficult
[04:42] <wizo> my friend was encouraging to start off learnign linux with gentoo
[04:42] <Nermal> wizo, you learn a lot
[04:42] <Nevado> wizo, more time consuming than difficult, but you'll learn a lot from it
[04:42] <Taken_By_Kristin> Hey everybody.
[04:42] <mindspin> trupina_: its the debian way to install software
[04:42] <wizo> oooo
[04:42] <mindspin> trupina_: its the debian/ubuntian way to install software
[04:42] <yccheok> i try to eject cdrom
[04:42] <wizo> but another friend is sayign i shouldnt do gentoo straight away
[04:42] <Nermal> trupina_, just do sudo apt-get install <package name>
[04:42] <yccheok> yccheok@ubuntu:~$ eject
[04:42] <psychonate> I roughly had this sort of progression: Mandrake > Slackware > Gentoo
[04:42] <yccheok> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:42] <yccheok> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:42] <yccheok> eject: unmount of `/dev/hdd' failed
[04:42] <yccheok> yccheok@ubuntu:~$
[04:42] <yccheok> wat i can do?
[04:42] <Taken_By_Kristin> Who's lookin' forward to helpin' a complete noob??
[04:43] <Nermal> yccheok, unmount it
[04:43] <jino> how to install bebian s/w
[04:43] <Nermal> Taken_By_Kristin, not me,..
[04:43] <Taken_By_Kristin> Haha ok.
[04:43] <Taken_By_Kristin> Anybody?
[04:43] <Nermal> jino, what?
[04:43] <trupina_> where in the "terminal"?
[04:43] <wizo> Taken_By_Kristin, we`ll wad yur porolblem is first
[04:43] <psychonate> Taken_By_Kristin, just address the channel.
[04:43] <topyli> Fnoy: security.ubuntu.com resolves fine. so does fi.archive.ubuntu.com (on my system anyway)
[04:43] <Nermal> Taken_By_Kristin, just ask the %$^ question
[04:43] <wizo> we`ll see*
[04:43] <Taken_By_Kristin> I'm just trying to access the internet with the Ubuntu Live CD.
[04:43] <Nermal> you've pissed me off now though
[04:43] <gorilla_> Taken_By_Kristin, depends... what the problem?? (no jokes about the any key here :-) )
[04:43] <wizo> uh huh
[04:43] <Nermal> trupina_, rtfm
[04:43] <yccheok> yccheok@ubuntu:~$ umount /dev/hdd
[04:43] <yccheok> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:43] <yccheok> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:43] <Nermal> :)
[04:44] <wizo> arent u on the internet now?
[04:44] <yccheok> Nermal: faill too :(
[04:44] <Nermal> yccheok, lsof /dev/hdd
[04:44] <OnoSendai> lol
[04:44] <wizo> =/
[04:44] <Taken_By_Kristin> I'm using Windows XP on this computer but I'm running hte Live CD on my other one.
[04:44] <gorilla_> Taken_By_Kristin, cable, adsl, standard old-style modem
[04:44] <psychonate> OnoSendai, would you like to see my config?
[04:44] <wizo> ohhhh
[04:44] <mindspin> isdn
[04:44] <Taken_By_Kristin> Which is connected wirelessly: Cable.
[04:44] <Nermal> need less n00bs
[04:44] <wizo> wireless?
[04:44] <OnoSendai> not right now thx psycho
[04:44] <lleberg> I just want to informe you guys that today it's midsummers-eve in sweden
[04:44] <Taken_By_Kristin> Yes wireless.
[04:45] <gorilla_> wireless back to the cable modem?
[04:45] <trupina_> rtfm ?
[04:45] <wizo> issint wireless hard in linux
[04:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> taken_by_kristin, you here from church_of_foamy?
[04:45] <Nermal> *sigh*
[04:45] <lleberg> in other words, the best day to get drunk in all the year!
[04:45] <yccheok> oh, is my mplayer open it. but, i didnt use mplayer to play cd, i just listen to online radio ....
[04:45] <Nermal> trupina_, read the docs
[04:45] <yccheok> weird
[04:45] <trupina_> where
[04:45] <Nevado> I'd like to inform you that it has been raining all day in the UK :(
[04:45] <trupina_> are they
[04:45] <Taken_By_Kristin> I think it's to the router actually.
[04:45] <Nermal> trupina_, for which package ?
[04:45] <Taken_By_Kristin> I'm not sure.
[04:45] <mindspin> school#s over somewhere?
[04:45] <Nermal> man <packagename>
[04:45] <nictuku> Hi. I'm not being able to update the kernel in a server.
[04:45] <topyli> lleberg: big here in finland too
[04:45] <Nermal> I would love to know what trupina_ is actually trying to do
[04:46] <OnoSendai> whats the default root password?
[04:46] <mindspin> nictuku: why do you want?
[04:46] <Nermal> OnoSendai, the user password.. use sudo
[04:46] <topyli> lleberg: what the hell are we doing on irc? =)
[04:46] <Nermal> sudo su to get to root
[04:46] <avinoam> what's the diff. between an ubuntu server and an ubuntu desktop?
[04:46] <Nermal> avinoam, less desktop packages
[04:46] <trupina_> im missing basics here... i actually dont know what are you talking about
[04:46] <Nermal> trupina_, leave
[04:46] <lleberg> topyli: It's 4:46 pm, and i'm not 13 years old :P
[04:46] <mindspin> ;-)
[04:46] <nictuku> I have exactly the same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-39838.html
[04:46] <lleberg> topyli: Meaning, i
[04:46] <lidob> I'm 13 years old :P
[04:46] <Nevado> trupina_, what are you trying to do?
[04:46] <Taken_By_Kristin> Brb guys.
[04:46] <avinoam> gotcha
[04:47] <lleberg> i'm still preparing my dinner!
[04:47] <gorilla_> yay.. one less m0r0n :-)
[04:47] <avinoam> I can't figure out how ubuntu fits so much on one CD!
[04:47] <Nermal> this channel is so infuriating..
[04:47] <jino> Nermal,doeas gaim allow to sign in in msn and yahoo at a time?
[04:47] <nictuku> mindspin: why? security updates and add smp support
[04:47] <mindspin> lidob getting filesharing working
[04:47] <Nermal> I probably know the answers to most questions but people are incapable of asking them
[04:47] <Seveas> jino, yes
[04:47] <avinoam> jino yes
[04:47] <mindspin> ok
[04:47] <gorilla_> jino, yes.
[04:47] <gorilla_> oop
[04:47] <jino> thanx
[04:47] <davro> Does anyone know about the state of play with ubuntu and php5.
[04:47] <wizo> chil it Nermal
[04:47] <Seveas> davro, it might get to Breezy...
[04:47] <lidob> I can;t speak English very well
[04:47] <Nermal> davro, I think my blog is 1st on google for it
[04:47] <lleberg> Nermal: Good point of view :P
[04:47] <trupina_> ok for start i would like to know what meta file is. because every time i start bittorent it sais i have to open meta file! where and what is it
[04:48] <mindspin> nictuku: so whats the problem?
[04:48] <Nermal> davro, 2nd.. http://nermal.org/old/?entryid=586
[04:48] <psychonate> damn FF is always crashing
[04:48] <Seveas> trupina_, a meta file is a file with a name that ends in .torrent
[04:48] <Nermal> see the update bit
[04:48] <Taken_By_Kristin> To access the internet will I need a Live CD with ndiswrapper so I can install my wireless adapter's driver??
[04:48] <davro> Did a google and theres some howto on compiling, just wondered, Breezy would be nice.
[04:48] <psychonate> crashes randomly when I try to save pictures or view video heh
[04:48] <avinoam> is hitting apt-get update with backports enabled a bad idea?
[04:48] <Seveas> Taken_By_Kristin, yes.
[04:48] <nictuku> mindspin: I won't pase the whole error message. Please kindly refer to http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-39838.html if you don't mind.
[04:48] <lleberg> Is there any way not to get the "the document contains no data" GUI when surfing hte net in firefox? ;)
[04:48] <toxicfume> Is there a network sniffer for linux that can also rebuild captured packets?
[04:48] <mindspin> i#ll do
[04:48] <trupina_> ok what about if i want to change ports in the bittorent how to do that
[04:49] <gorilla_> Taken_By_Kristin, yes, but you would be better off installing otherwise all your changes that you make are gone when you reboot.
[04:49] <Taken_By_Kristin> Thanks Seveas.
[04:49] <Nermal> trupina_, edit the config I suppose
[04:49] <jino> Nermal,how do switch to the other one when one is in use?
[04:49] <Nermal> jino, all people will be on the contact list
[04:49] <Taken_By_Kristin> Yeah I know, but I wanted to try out Ubuntu first.
[04:49] <Nermal> just sign them all in
[04:49] <OnoSendai> so theres no root account by default eh
[04:49] <OnoSendai> how odd
[04:49] <Nermal> they'll have different icons
[04:49] <Nermal> it's all transparent
[04:49] <Nermal> try it
[04:49] <jino> both yahoo and msn?
[04:49] <Nermal> yes
[04:50] <Nermal> for the 3rd time
[04:50] <Seveas> OnoSendai, you mean: how excellently secure :)
[04:50] <Taken_By_Kristin> Will my wireless adapter definitely be supported?
[04:50] <wizo> lol
[04:50] <nictuku> OnoSendai: there is a root account. It only has its password disabled.
[04:50] <Nermal> Taken_By_Kristin, what adapter is it?
[04:50] <davro> Cheers Nermal, but im really after a lazy .deb package
[04:50] <gorilla_> OnoSendai, there is a root account but the password is disabled.
[04:50] <jino> Nermal, thats kewl
[04:50] <Taken_By_Kristin> Broadcom.
[04:50] <Nermal> davro, which are at a link at the bottom of the post
[04:50] <OnoSendai> hmm
[04:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> jino,
[04:50] <Nermal> if you actually read it
[04:50] <Seveas> Taken_By_Kristin, only with ndiswrapper
[04:50] <Nermal> why I bother..
[04:50] <Taken_By_Kristin> I typed in 'lspci'
[04:50] <Seveas> broadcom is a spawn of the devil
[04:50] <trupina_> where is that when i open bitorent it sais open location for meta file. how to get pass that ?
[04:50] <Taken_By_Kristin> And it says Networking Controller Broadcom and a bunch of numbers and junk.
[04:50] <Seveas> trupina_, you can't
[04:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> jino, i have IRC, MSN, aim, yahoo all going from GAIM *now*
[04:50] <lidob> is 8 nederlands :P
[04:50] <Taken_By_Kristin> Is that what I'll need??
[04:51] <lidob> *
[04:51] <Seveas> it would be useless anyway..
[04:51] <topyli> lleberg: so when you're under 15 in sweden you can't drink vodka before 6PM? ;)
[04:51] <Nermal> davro, http://people.debian.org/~dexter/dists/php5/sid/binary-i386/  work
[04:51] <trupina_> where the is edit button
[04:51] <mindspin> nictuku: I have no clue on 64 ers and my server installations are all running debian
[04:51] <wizo> btw guys
[04:51] <lleberg> topyli: No.. the other way around
[04:51] <Nermal> Taken_By_Kristin, broadcom can use ndiswrapper
[04:51] <wizo> wads the difference between the file systems
[04:51] <ohbother> How do I have ubuntu start Apache, MySQL, and other applications when it starts up? (I guess what I'm asking is what is the linux equivalent of a windows Service)
[04:51] <gorilla_> trupina_, you need to find a .torrent tracker file first... rtfm.
[04:51] <Nermal> trupina_, feed it a bittorrent file
[04:51] <Seveas> ohbother, just install them
[04:51] <yccheok> wat i should type to mount my usb pen driver?
[04:51] <Nevado> trupina_, you need to open a .torrent file to download, there's not much else you can do with it
[04:51] <Seveas> they'' auto-start
[04:51] <mindspin> nictuku: and theres nothing about kernel compiling in your post
[04:51] <lleberg> topyli: the yangsters can't figuera out something to do, so they start drinking at 4pm and trow up before 6pm
[04:52] <Seveas> yccheok, usually nothing at all unless you use Breezy
[04:52] <Bramme> is there a linux prog that can create and export vcards ?
[04:52] <nictuku> it's not a 64er issue. I believe it's a mkinitrd/raid issue.
[04:52] <Taken_By_Kristin> And ndiswrapper DOES come on the install CD??
[04:52] <Seveas> Bramme, evolution..?
[04:52] <Nermal> yah
[04:52] <Taken_By_Kristin> I burned the install CD from the iso image.
[04:52] <Seveas> Taken_By_Kristin, yes
[04:52] <nictuku> it's not my post. It's not kernel compilation. It's kernel UPDATE.
[04:52] <Nermal> Taken_By_Kristin, ndiswrapper lets you use a windows driver under linux
[04:52] <trupina_> ive alreadi done that, and it said that i have to change my port because its blacklisted
[04:52] <mindspin> try make xconfig again
[04:52] <Taken_By_Kristin> Any windows driver??
[04:52] <Nermal> Taken_By_Kristin, wifi drivers
[04:52] <ohbother> Seveas, installing by apt-get, will have them auto-start?
[04:52] <Nermal> mainly
[04:52] <Taken_By_Kristin> Because I don't want to make the switch and then realize I can access the internet.
[04:52] <Seveas> Taken_By_Kristin, the windows 2000 driver for your card...
[04:52] <Taken_By_Kristin> *can't
[04:53] <Bramme> Seveas, don't like evolution
[04:53] <Nermal> Taken_By_Kristin, look on the ndiswrapper page then
[04:53] <Seveas> ohbother, yes
[04:53] <Seveas> Bramme, thunderbird then :)
[04:53] <Nermal> ndiswrapper.sf.net
[04:53] <topyli> lleberg: ok cool. generations take turns so there's somebody out there all day :)
[04:53] <ohbother> Seveas, because I run a game server that I have coded myself, and I need it to run as a service. i.e, if I reboot the computer, it needs to start automatically.
[04:53] <Bramme> Seveas, thx
[04:53] <ohbother> Seveas, and I cannot apt-get that.
[04:53] <Seveas> ohbother, why not..?
[04:53] <mindspin> nictuku: are you sure your /etc/apt/sources.list is correct?
[04:53] <davro> Nermal, do you think there will be a problem using your i386 .deb on this i686 laptop ?
[04:53] <gorilla_> ohbother, you need a startup script in /etc/init.d then
[04:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> ohbother, /etc/init.d
[04:54] <Seveas> ah ok, that's a diferent thing
[04:54] <ohbother> gorilla_, thanks. thats it.
[04:54] <toxicfume> Is there a network sniffer for linux that can also reconstruct captured packets?
[04:54] <Seveas> ohbother, you might be interested in BUM too, see the forums
[04:54] <lidob> Seveas kan je miss anwoord geve op mijn vraag in ubunt-nl?
[04:54] <nictuku> mindspin: Please. I'm not a newbie.
[04:54] <Taken_By_Kristin> Will I need to burn a copy of the driver I need onto a CD then since I won't be able to access the internet?
[04:54] <ohbother> okie.
[04:54] <Seveas> lidob, misschien, als je hier maar geen Nederlands praat..
[04:54] <davro> toxicfume, ethereal
[04:54] <lidob> ok
[04:55] <mindspin> nictuku: then I cannot offer you any help
[04:55] <trupina_> how to change port in gnome bittorent ?
[04:55] <mindspin> its sometimes difficult here for there are los of noobs here
[04:55] <SogniX> can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong - why can't I share a directory? I installed
[04:56] <Bramme> Seveas, thunderbird can't export vcards
[04:56] <wizo> SogniX, try www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:56] <SogniX> I installed samba and I can actually share and see the share from another computer - but can't actually connect :(
[04:56] <mindspin> but nevertheless i would recommend debian sarge on servers
[04:56] <toxicfume> davro: but ethereal can't do much at all, just reconstruct TCP packets...is there anything for Ubuntu/Linux that's equivalent to what Iris for windows can do? Iris: http://www.eeye.com/html/company/contact/sales.html?p=iris
[04:56] <Nermal> davro, no
[04:56] <SogniX> did that - does not work :(
[04:56] <Seveas> SogniX, make sure you add a *samba* password...
[04:56] <avinoam> what's the best firewall for ubuntu
[04:56] <SogniX> hmm
[04:56] <Seveas> avinoam, Linux has a firewall built into the kernel
[04:56] <topyli> avinoam: firestarter is a good front end
[04:57] <Seveas> what you think of as firewall are mere front ends
[04:57] <avinoam> seveas really?
[04:57] <Seveas> and firestarter is indeed a good frontend
[04:57] <avinoam> I see
[04:57] <trupina_> port change in bitorent????
[04:57] <avinoam> firestarter you say?>
[04:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[04:57] <Seveas> trupina_: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[04:57] <gorilla_> toxicfume, any link with the registration requirement.
[04:57] <Fnoy> thz guys i fixed my problem
[04:57] <wizo> erm ok
[04:57] <topyli> avinoam: yes. it will set up the firewall for you
[04:57] <wizo> who was asking for how to change ports
[04:57] <jino> Nermal, thanx a lot
[04:58] <avinoam> do i really need a firewall if i'm not serving?
[04:58] <gorilla_> wizo, trupina_ was.
[04:58] <toxicfume> gorilla: say what? are you asking me a question??
[04:58] <ciocanel> Traxer|off, there's a -minport -maxport option man gnome-btdownload
[04:58] <wizo> pl
[04:58] <wizo> ok
[04:58] <Nevado> trupina_, you could try using a different client like azureus
[04:58] <topyli> avinoam: you don't
[04:58] <ciocanel> err... sorry Traxer|off
[04:58] <wizo> trupina_, can i pm u?
[04:58] <Bramme> is there something like KAddressbook for gnome ?
[04:58] <gorilla_> toxicfume, opps.. I meant without the registration requirement.
[04:58] <OnoSendai> psychonate: what were those lines for the conf again?
[04:59] <ciocanel> wizo, pm me too, I'm intrested too
[04:59] <wizo> hmm ok
[04:59] <toxicfume> gorilla_: you mean you want to download it? Well it's only available for Windows
[04:59] <wizo> i only got a site
[04:59] <avinoam> topyli even if i'm using azureus? on windows i was always getting hits... is there a difference?
[04:59] <wizo> of a forum that tell u how to do it
[04:59] <trupina_> yes... but that means that i have to install it. and i still dont know how to do that. what does pm mean ?
[04:59] <topyli> avinoam: well that's a service :)
[04:59] <avinoam> where do i get firestarter?
[04:59] <Nevado> Bramme, you can use the evolution address book and there are panel applets to integrate with it etc if you wnat
[04:59] <gorilla_> toxicfume, that link took me straight to a form... I'm not downloading just to find out what the feature list is...
[05:00] <avinoam> synaptic?
[05:00] <topyli> avinoam: just apt-get it
[05:00] <topyli> yes
[05:00] <toxicfume> gorilla_: oh it did? damn let me try
[05:00] <avinoam> topyli- is it in universe? multiverse?
[05:00] <Fnoy> hei guys wher can i find out what programs apt has to offer
[05:00] <mindspin> synaptic
[05:00] <toxicfume> gorilla_: my bad..i'll post the feature list links correctly now
[05:00] <OnoSendai> ah got it nvm
[05:00] <Seveas> Fnoy, packages.ubuntu.com
[05:00] <Seveas> Fnoy, or simply synaptic
[05:00] <toxicfume> gorilla_: Iris: http://www.eeye.com/html/products/iris/features.html
[05:01] <gorilla_> toxicfume, I've got it...
[05:01] <avinoam> anyone know which repository firestarter is in?
[05:01] <wizo> hope it helped u 2
[05:01] <toxicfume> gorilla_: alright, so do you happen to know anything like that for ubuntu? :)
[05:01] <Fnoy> thx
[05:02] <wizo> hmm
[05:02] <gorilla_> not off the top of my head... snort will do some of it and nessus will allow you to test a firewall but nothing as an all in one solution.
[05:02] <topyli> avinoam: dunno, probably in universe
[05:02] <toxicfume> damn
[05:02] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> it's both in universe and backports
[05:02] <wizo> hmm
[05:03] <avinoam> Can I safely use backports enabled?
[05:03] <wizo> y does ubuntu give free distros and covers the shipping cost, while gentoo doesnt
[05:03] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> yeah ... but be a bit careful
[05:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[05:03] <nes> Hey, how can I get write permission on ubuntu shared folders with samba from a windows98 box?
[05:03] <wizo> nes
[05:03] <wizo> www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:03] <Seveas> nes, mount them with umask=0000
[05:03] <Seveas> wizo, ubuntuguide.org is utter crap
[05:04] <avinoam> GNULinuxer one time i did a synaptic upgrade with it enabled and it totally screwed up my ubuntu
[05:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> wizo, Ubuntu +gentoo have a different target
[05:04] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> that's why I said so :)
[05:04] <wizo> Seveas, but it does tellu hw to access stuff =/
[05:04] <gorilla_> Yep, firestarter is in universe: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=firestarter&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all
[05:04] <wizo> Kamping_Kaiser: different target?
[05:04] <Seveas> wizo, not really
[05:04] <avinoam> GNULinuxer which repositories can I have set when i do an upgrade?
[05:04] <GNULinuxer> gorilla_> the backports one is a newer version
[05:05] <avinoam> Without killing my ubuntu i mean
[05:05] <Seveas> wizo, the instructions are bad and give no explanations
[05:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> wizo, target user group.
[05:05] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> if you enable backports, don't do a dist-upgrade
[05:05] <wizo> hmm, yeh i guess, no explanations
[05:05] <gorilla_> GNULinuxer, I don't do backports... :-)
[05:05] <wizo> but it does work for most of the stuff for me =/
[05:05] <avinoam> GNULinuxer, will that install upgrade?
[05:05] <avinoam> GNULinuxer i mean will that install breezy?
[05:05] <nes> hum, but how I configure the mounting with umask=0000? Isn't that an fstab option?
[05:05] <Seveas> no avinoam
[05:05] <Seveas> nes, yes
[05:05] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> yeah, IMHO it's safe to upgrade
[05:05] <topyli> wizo: it's a terrible learning tool though. leaves nebwies helpless as they came
[05:06] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> no. it won't install breezy, and don't even think about that now
[05:06] <avinoam> Once I did upgrade in synaptic, with backports enabled, and it killed my kernel
[05:06] <wizo> =/
[05:06] <wizo> damn
[05:06] <avinoam> i had to reinstall ubuntu
[05:06] <wizo> i learned thru that
[05:06] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> when was that?
[05:06] <avinoam> GNULinuxer, a few weeks ago
[05:06] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> you can tell apt to hold the kernel
[05:07] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> so it won't upgrade it
[05:07] <d4rksh4de> Im having sound problems
[05:07] <avinoam> GNULinuxer although i don't understand why the newer kernel would be problematic
[05:08] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> me too :)
[05:08] <avinoam> GNULinuxer although it did
[05:08] <nes> But I can see and write on windows shared boxes (mounts are set on /etc/fstab)... I can't on the ubuntu box.
[05:08] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> which version did it install?
[05:09] <avinoam> GNU i don't even know
[05:09] <avinoam> I don't memorize kernel numbers
[05:09] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> and how exctly did it kill the kill th ekernel?
[05:09] <d4rksh4de> can anyone help me with sound problems
[05:09] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> that's why i told you to be careful
[05:09] <wizo> erm
[05:09] <GNULinuxer> d4rksh4de> what is the issue pal?
[05:10] <avinoam> GNULinuxer i couldn't boot into gnome anymore
[05:10] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> did it boot?
[05:10] <d4rksh4de> GNULinuxer, i have to modprobe every time i boot to get sound working
[05:10] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, that's easy to solve
[05:10] <GNULinuxer> d4rksh4de> modprobe which modules?
[05:10] <avinoam> GNULinuxer maybe it wasn 't kernel, that's what people in this room told me, but it would hang while starting gnome
[05:10] <Seveas> add the module you need to modprobe to /etc/modules
[05:10] <d4rksh4de> GNULinuxer, insnd wont work
[05:11] <avinoam> GNULinuxer, maybe it was a bad gnome
[05:11] <GNULinuxer> d4rksh4de> just put it in the /etc/modules
[05:11] <nictuku> I believe there is a bug in mkinitrd in hoary. If you can, please see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=227162#post227162
[05:11] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> :)
[05:11] <jino> hi..
[05:11] <jino> i dont get the users and groups in graphic view..
[05:11] <gorilla_> avinoam, lol
[05:11] <avinoam> GNULinuxer i'm a linux newbie, i'm still trying to get into the linux mindset
[05:11] <jino> can i gt in copmmand line
[05:12] <Fnoy> does anyone know how the ati drivers work for ubuntu
[05:12] <sly> this may seem a stupid question but how to you speel nauti........
[05:12] <Seveas> jino, you mean system -> administration -> users and groups..?
[05:12] <sly> i dont even know how it begings -\
[05:12] <Seveas> sly, nautilus ..?
[05:12] <d4rksh4de> GNULinuxer, theres no /etc/modules
[05:12] <sly> yeh thats the one :)
[05:12] <topyli> Fnoy: only ATI knows that :)
[05:12] <sly> cheers :) ( again )
[05:12] <Fnoy> ok does anyone play windows games on ubuntu
[05:12] <gorilla_> d4rksh4de, try /etc/modules.conf instead
[05:12] <jino> Seveas, yes
[05:12] <d4rksh4de> is there a command insnd ?
[05:13] <GNULinuxer> d4rksh4de> there must be one
[05:13] <d4rksh4de> or something
[05:13] <sly> anyone used nautilus ontop of xfce................
[05:13] <phinnaeus> does anyone know how to open a .tpb file?
[05:13] <Seveas> jino, sudo users-admin
[05:13] <phinnaeus> i cant seem to open it
[05:13] <jino> Seveas, actually in my machine it works, i have installed the addon cd aswell..but never on my friends machine..
[05:13] <GNULinuxer> d4rksh4de> just open the /etc/modules or modules.conf in an editor
[05:13] <marcin_ant> Hi all again
[05:13] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, maybe you accidently removed it..?
[05:14] <GNULinuxer> Seveas> removed it?
[05:14] <jino> Seveas, thanx
[05:14] <avinoam> where did it install firestarter?
[05:14] <avinoam> damn it
[05:14] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> /usr/bin
[05:14] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, no
[05:14] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, i found it
[05:14] <gorilla_> sly, I haven't but it can be done...
[05:14] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, then it must be there :)
[05:14] <Seveas> ah
[05:14] <marcin_ant> I got ATI drivers installed and configured - unfortunatelly I got video output only on VGA not on DVI - could someone tell me how to enable this for DVI?
[05:14] <avinoam> GNULinuxer i have to run it from there?
[05:14] <avinoam> It's not in my menu?
[05:14] <Seveas> avinoam, applications -> internet -> firestarter
[05:14] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> this is just a graphical firewall config tool
[05:15] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> the firewall is in the linux kernel
[05:15] <Seveas> avinoam, and remember: do NOT set it to autostart or something, that's not needed
[05:15] <avinoam> it didn't put it in internet
[05:15] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, i forgot to say i have to type: sudo modprobe snd-es18xx    every time i boot to get sound working, is there a permanent way?
[05:15] <Seveas> firestarter is only the configuration program
[05:15] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, yes: echo snd-es18xx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[05:15] <GNULinuxer> d4rksh4de> yes, put snd-es18xx in the file
[05:16] <avinoam> i can't find it
[05:16] <Seveas> type that once and it will auto-load
[05:16] <jino> Seveas, why i didnt get that in graphic view?
[05:16] <sly> gorilla im currently doing it now
[05:16] <Seveas> jino, no idea....
[05:16] <sly> rather weird when right clicking on desktop to acces xfce options. but overall works pretty well
[05:16] <sly> only weird cos you get normal menu instead of xfce's
[05:16] <ice04> Hi all where or how can i addd more fonts to my KDE enviroment (Newbie)
[05:16] <gorilla_> sly, nice :-)
[05:17] <sly> its kinda realy strange
[05:17] <d4rksh4de> ok i try it out
[05:17] <sly> but good =\
[05:17] <d4rksh4de> thanx
[05:17] <Seveas> sly, people are fixing that for Breezy
[05:18] <sly> the right click on desktop thing ?
[05:18] <SogniX> thanks wizo and seveas - samba works now. I guess I missed the samba password part. I figured it used the same password. :p
[05:18] <avinoam> it didn't put firestarter in my internet menu
[05:18] <Seveas> avinoam, where did you install it from, backports or universe?
[05:19] <avinoam> seveas, universe
[05:19] <jino> how do i share a folder/file on lan
[05:19] <Seveas> avinoam, maybe you should restart gnome-panel, try logging out and logging back in
[05:19] <sly> im so used to right clikin desktop on xfce that , ive done 4/5 times already now =\
[05:19] <sly> but looks good with desktop icons on
[05:19] <avinoam> seveas i'm in kde
[05:19] <avinoam> killall kde-desktop?
[05:19] <ubuntu_demon> hi
[05:19] <gorilla_> firestarter can be found in the Applications-> System tools menu
[05:20] <gorilla_> avinoam, that was for you :-)
[05:20] <Seveas> avinoam, ah!
[05:20] <Seveas> i don't think it will show up in KDE
[05:20] <avinoam> seveas why not?
[05:20] <Pu7o> is there any way to resize an HFS+ partition without losing the data in it?
[05:20] <avinoam> seveas everything else does
[05:20] <avinoam> what's the kde panel's process called?
[05:20] <Pu7o> i want to install ubuntu on my mac but i don't want to lose the data in it
[05:21] <Seveas> avinoam, no idea, I hate KDE so I don't use it
[05:21] <zip> *just installed ubuntu on his mac and erased his hard drive*
[05:21] <zip> hehe
[05:21] <avinoam> seveas i like it a lot
[05:21] <avinoam> Anyone know what the kde panel process is called?
[05:22] <bkinman> Hello people. I am developing a linux CCTV based security camera solution in ubuntu. I want it to do automated encoding and DVD burning at the end of the day... any ideas which software i should burn with?
[05:22] <topyli> avinoam: it was 'kicker' last i heard
[05:22] <sly> avinoam have you installed kubuntu ?
[05:22] <terrex> what happened to "open virtual" from desktop context menu in new gnome (breezy)?
[05:22] <avinoam> sly yes
[05:22] <mindspin> avinoam ksystray
[05:22] <Slike> hello, is there an "ubuntu-way" to have firefox extensions/themes installed? or should I install it from the mozilla sourcepackage?
[05:22] <Seveas> terrex, they dropped it
[05:23] <avinoam> topyli way to go you are correct
[05:23] <topyli> terrex: terminar rather?
[05:23] <jino> how do i install themes?
[05:23] <Seveas> jino, art.gnome.org/faq.php
[05:23] <avinoam> damn it but it didn't restart
[05:23] <zip> .. are the applications listed in my gnome Applications menu really all the user software I have? doesn't seem quite right..
[05:24] <Seveas> zip, no, there's lots more :)
[05:24] <zip> i thought so
[05:24] <sly> right im out, take care :)
[05:24] <Seveas> there are like a zillion command-line applications
[05:24] <zip> how do i get them to show up without going to the /bin
[05:24] <Seveas> and these don't get listed
[05:24] <avinoam> i love my command line
[05:24] <terrex> Seveas: why the dropped it?, i liked it where it was
[05:24] <zip> i'm running nautilus
[05:24] <zip> hm
[05:24] <jino> Seveas, can i share my file on lan ...
[05:25] <sly> xfce*
[05:25] <Seveas> jino, what do you mean..?
[05:25] <zip> well, does the application menu only show Gnome apps or what?
[05:25] <bkinman> So nobody here encodes and burns to DVD?
[05:25] <topyli> zip: mostly
[05:25] <Fnoy> whats the apt-get code for kde
[05:25] <sly> burns to dvd yes
[05:25] <zip> how do i make it show more without manually adding everything =p
[05:25] <gorilla_> zip: gnome menu will only show those application that addd themselves to the gnome menu config files.
[05:25] <sly> encodes no. i only deal in true dvdr
[05:26] <sly> so no need to encode
[05:26] <Seveas> LoneElf, not personally, but look at the forums, I've seen some guides there
[05:26] <topyli> Fnoy: you want to install kde?
[05:26] <Fnoy> yeah
[05:26] <LoneElf> sly, which software do you use?
[05:26] <topyli> Fnoy: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:26] <sly> k3b & dvddecryptor under wine
[05:26] <zip> urk.. i thought GCC got installed from the CD
[05:27] <avinoam> anyone knjow where firestarter is on kubuntu?
[05:27] <Fnoy> topyli does it take long
[05:27] <avinoam> oh also what is the difference between processed than open with ./ and those that open without?
[05:27] <topyli> Fnoy: yes. depends on your bandwidth
[05:27] <avinoam> scripts?
[05:28] <zip> do i have to install the packages g++ and g++3.3 or only one?
[05:29] <wizo> cya peepz
[05:29] <jino> Seveas, i want to make a shared folder just like in windows..
[05:29] <Fnoy> topyli problem
[05:29] <Fnoy> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:29] <Fnoy>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: konversation but it is not going to be installed
[05:29] <Fnoy> E: Broken packages
[05:29] <avinoam> hmm
[05:30] <jino> so that people can view that and access it from another machine
[05:30] <topyli> zip: g++ is a virtual package and depends on the latest g++
[05:30] <Nevado> can anyone recommend a good ID3 tag editor?
[05:30] <zip> so both
[05:30] <topyli> Fnoy: well, that is a problem
[05:30] <topyli> zip: no. just g++ and it will install whatever it depends on today
[05:31] <d4rksh4de> hehe... problems solved: internet connection - ok, graphics resolution - ok, soundcard - ok
[05:31] <zip> ah, right you are. i went from the bottom up and marked GCC etc before i got to g++ so it didn't prompt me
[05:31] <d4rksh4de> 3 problems more
[05:32] <d4rksh4de> how to check and select keyboard keymaps?
[05:32] <d4rksh4de> or layouts
[05:33] <GNULinuxer> d4rksh4de> keyboard prefs
[05:33] <Seveas> jino, you need to install samba
[05:34] <avinoam> hwo to check firewall status?
[05:34] <jino> Seveas, okie..how to work with it.
[05:34] <mindspin> btw. there's a security hole in smb protocol
[05:34] <Seveas> jino, it comes with a config files with examples
[05:34] <Seveas> mindspin, there are several...
[05:34] <Seveas> which one are you referring to..?
[05:35] <mindspin> wait
[05:35] <skymt> don't edit smb.conf by hand, use SWAT
[05:35] <topyli> avinoam: sudo iptables -L
[05:36] <zip> ok new problem, how do i connect to my OS X 10.3 computer? :D
[05:36] <mindspin> http://www.eeye.com/html/research/advisories/AD20050208.html
[05:36] <mindspin> there is also an exploit out there for that hole
[05:36] <d4rksh4de> how to get correct keyboard layout?
[05:36] <mindspin> bad news for companies running still nt4
[05:36] <d4rksh4de> some keys arent working
[05:37] <avinoam> topyli and then what?
[05:37] <d4rksh4de> i have the right language but still
[05:38] <jago> #ubuntu-es
[05:38] <avinoam> i'm not quite sure firestarter is working correctly
[05:39] <LoneElf> Where is the transcode package????!?
[05:39] <Fnoy> hei guy you know when you start ubuntu. Then things like [ok]  comes up
[05:39] <Fnoy> how do you change the colours and the put a bg image up
[05:40] <d4rksh4de> anyone can help me with my keyboard problem?
[05:40] <jago> can any one help to configure my network card
[05:41] <GNULinuxer> jago> yes
[05:41] <jino> Seveas, done..how n where from ..do im acces from a remote machine..
[05:41] <gorilla_> jago, what's you network card??
[05:41] <jago> its a davicom
[05:42] <avinoam> Yeah i have no idea where it installed firestarter
[05:42] <d4rksh4de> what is this:  X server with incompatible libxkbfile implementation
[05:42] <busfahrer_> Excuse me, is it enough to have a ReiserFS partition (and swap), or do I have to keep an ext2 partition for grub?
[05:42] <GNULinuxer> jago> is it known to work with linux?
[05:42] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> dpkg -l firestarter
[05:42] <avinoam> but why? i apt-get it!!!
[05:42] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> that will tell you where it's installed
[05:43] <gorilla_> GNULinuxer, you mean dpkg -L firestarter :-)
[05:43] <kangpeh> anyone have any idea how to make the root applications have a theme (follow user theme)
[05:43] <kangpeh> when doing sudo-app
[05:43] <GNULinuxer> gorilla_> yeah ... missed the shift key
[05:43] <jago> I dont know
[05:43] <kangpeh> i.e., like when u run synaptic and stuff
[05:43] <kangpeh> :O
[05:44] <avinoam> i run the wizard from command line and then nothing
[05:44] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> what then nothing?
[05:44] <avinoam> and then i wanna see what's going on with the firewall!
[05:45] <avinoam> how to set specific permissions, open close ports, etc
[05:45] <doonz> is there a command through terminal that will allow me to see used vs free space on my main drive?>
[05:45] <d4rksh4de> anyone can help me with restart/ shut down problem?
[05:45] <jago> :GNULinuexer one is integrated to my motherboard and the other one is a pci card, but this one does not detect it
[05:45] <gorilla_> doon, try df -h
[05:45] <kangpeh> o.o;;;;;
[05:45] <GNULinuxer> jago> hmm
[05:45] <doonz> k
[05:45] <gorilla_> doonz rather
[05:45] <goldfish_> can u get line numbers in nano ?
[05:45] <kangpeh> goldfish
[05:45] <kangpeh> i think CTRL+C
[05:45] <kangpeh> ?
[05:46] <goldfish_> will try
[05:46] <GNULinuxer> jago> if it's not autodetected, it means it will not work easily or won't work at all
[05:46] <doonz> wow a 120gb hdd only reads as 110gigs
[05:46] <doonz> stupid formatting
[05:46] <zip__> no wonder file sharing wasn't working with my mac, no NFS.. no Samab(on my ubuntu computer)
[05:46] <GNULinuxer> doonz> it's normal
[05:46] <gorilla_> doonz, not really... also stupid binary vs decimal numbers :-(
[05:47] <doonz> yeah
[05:47] <avinoam> GNULinuxer how do i set settings on firestarter?
[05:47] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> just choose the outgoing device ... and the defaults will do
[05:47] <avinoam> i see
[05:47] <gorilla_> goldfish_, try nano -c filename :-)
[05:47] <jago> :GNULinuxer where I can find a page to see if it is compatible with linux
[05:47] <avinoam> and what if i don't want defaults? or want to see what the defaults are?
[05:48] <GNULinuxer> jago> which model is it?
[05:48] <gorilla_> avinoam, the default is to allow everything..
[05:48] <GNULinuxer> avinoam> then look around and discover
[05:48] <avinoam> GNULinuxer, where?
[05:48] <avinoam> GNULinuxer i don't see a panel anywhere
[05:48] <topyli> avinoam: the firestarter gui of course
[05:48] <moshe> how can i install a new theme ?
[05:48] <kangpeh> plz does anyone know how to set the themes for root applications to match the user theme?
[05:48] <avinoam> topyli i don't know where it put it
[05:49] <avinoam> In the gnome menu
[05:49] <jino> moshe, do it from gnome website
[05:49] <topyli> menu?
[05:49] <goldfish_> gorilla_: ty :)
[05:50] <moshe> what is gnome website?
[05:50] <carambol> http://www.art.gnome.org
[05:50] <jino> how do i login as root in graphics mode?
[05:50] <jago> :GNULinuxer its a davicom DM9102AF
[05:50] <gorilla_> goldfish_, there are some other interesting switches nano --help for details :-)
[05:50] <GNULinuxer> jago> try google
[05:50] <goldfish_> cool
[05:50] <goldfish_> will do , thanks
[05:51] <Seveas> jino, by default you cannot and you really *should* not do that
[05:52] <kangpeh> JInO: u gotta set it to do that :O
[05:52] <kangpeh> seveas:  do you know how to set the theme for root
[05:52] <kangpeh> to match the theme of user
[05:52] <kangpeh> i.e., when running apps aZ sudo
[05:52] <kangpeh> o.o;;
[05:52] <kangpeh> im sure there is a way to do that
[05:52] <kangpeh> instead of permamently swithcing the default hteme
[05:53] <jino> Seveas, the thing is i want to copy html files from else where to www folder in gui
[05:53] <jino> but it is allowd only as root.
[05:54] <jino> so i gotta do it in command prompt
[05:54] <jino> kangpeh, how can i set it
[05:54] <Howitzer> i'm having a problem with Cedega
[05:55] <Howitzer> i just can't install it
[05:55] <Howitzer> (Cedega CVS)
[05:55] <Howitzer> everything goes fine untill i reach phase 3: CVS Checkout
[05:55] <Howitzer> then it babbles about some non-existant dir and it throws me off
[05:56] <Howitzer> :<
[05:57] <jino> kangpeh, can i login as root in gui
[05:58] <thenuke> jino: yes you can, but you should not
[05:58] <X7C> my ubuntu cd's finally arrived... :S
[05:58] <X7C> when was haory released?
[05:59] <thenuke> jino: and you should not because it is not necessary and it is not secure
[06:00] <kangpeh> lol
[06:01] <kangpeh> you can
[06:01] <kangpeh> jino
[06:01] <kangpeh> you have to enable it
[06:01] <kangpeh> dont worry bout security shit
[06:01] <kangpeh> just understand that when you login as root
[06:01] <evrix> hi all
[06:01] <kangpeh> any and all applications you run
[06:01] <kangpeh> are running as root
[06:01] <kangpeh> so if any and all of those applications have any type of exploitable interface
[06:01] <kangpeh> then someone can quickly and easily get root access to your system
[06:02] <evrix> someone has tried installing ubuntu on pavilion zv6000 ?
[06:02] <jago> :GNULinuxer thnks i found my error, the card was desactivated jejeje
[06:02] <kangpeh> but as long as you know and understand that and take it into precaution, jino, you will be straight out of compton
[06:02] <jino> kangpeh, okie
[06:02] <X7C> evrix someone has tried installing ubuntu on pavilion zv6000 ? << nope
[06:02] <X7C> :p
[06:02] <kangpeh> if you know and understand it fully
[06:03] <kangpeh> just run gdmsetup as sudo or go to the login manager in the gnome menu
[06:03] <kangpeh> and lalow root ot login
[06:03] <kangpeh> lol
[06:03] <kangpeh> simple as that
[06:03] <jino> kangpeh, how do i do it
[06:03] <evrix> shipz
[06:03] <kangpeh> but like i said take heed to the warnings which i hath given you prior to such statements.
[06:03] <kangpeh> system->administration->login MaNAGGGGGeRRR
[06:03] <kangpeh> or something like that
[06:03] <evrix> it's a cheap notebook
[06:03] <kangpeh> and then 'SECURITY' or something liek that
[06:03] <evrix> but seems to have some probs
[06:03] <kangpeh> and then 'ALLOW r00t to l0gin ' or something like that
[06:03] <kangpeh> im not really sure lol
[06:04] <Striss> Does anybody know of any applications for Ubuntu for a virtual synth keyboard?
[06:04] <kangpeh> evrix:  there is a site that has all the laptops with success and fail stories of running linux
[06:04] <kangpeh> :D
[06:04] <jino> is that really insecure..
[06:04] <evrix> i know
[06:04] <kangpeh> jino: it CAN be
[06:04] <kangpeh> if you know what ur doing its straight outta compton though
[06:04] <evrix> and there's no zv6000 there
[06:04] <renick> Striss - look in Synaptic under multimedia
[06:04] <evrix> that's why i'm here
[06:04] <kangpeh> evrix
[06:04] <renick> there's loads of them
[06:04] <kangpeh> i'll buy the zv6000 from you for $60
[06:04] <Striss> ok
[06:04] <evrix> per month?
[06:04] <evrix> :p
[06:04] <kangpeh> err
[06:04] <kangpeh> total
[06:04] <kangpeh> how much is it?
[06:05] <evrix> 600?
[06:05] <kangpeh> dang
[06:05] <kangpeh> expensive
[06:05] <kangpeh> you should have just gone to DELL and waited for those 700$ off coupons
[06:05] <kangpeh> then u can get a dell inspiron pimptop for like 700$
[06:05] <kangpeh> heh
[06:05] <evrix> i haven't got it yet
[06:05] <kangpeh> im gonna get a 12" dell inspiron soon...
[06:05] <kangpeh> and im gonna put ubuntu on it and theme it to look like a mac
[06:05] <zimba-tm> what audioserver do you recommend ?
[06:05] <kangpeh> so fools will think its a powerbook
[06:06] <evrix> :)
[06:06] <kangpeh> but really its a pc running ubuntu
[06:06] <kangpeh> huhu
[06:06] <kangpeh> cuz the thing with powerbook is
[06:06] <kangpeh> the applications i need are linux
[06:06] <kangpeh> not MAC
[06:06] <kangpeh> ;/
[06:06] <kangpeh> but the interface i lvoe is MAC
[06:06] <kangpeh> and the coolness and showoff thing is MAC
[06:06] <kangpeh> so i gotta look like MAC but run like LINUX
[06:06] <evrix> hmm
[06:06] <evrix> philosophical
[06:06] <kangpeh> u know what im saying though
[06:07] <evrix> i do?
[06:07] <kangpeh> there are 2 aspects to technological devices when it comes to those type of things
[06:07] <kangpeh> 1) show off level
[06:07] <kangpeh> 2) usability level
[06:07] <kangpeh> for me - usability means i do need to run linux
[06:07] <kangpeh> for me - show off level means it has to look like a mac
[06:07] <evrix> hmm
[06:07] <kangpeh> so as long as i got an nvidia vidcard i can use xcompmgr and have drop shadows and transparent menus
[06:07] <kangpeh> and gdesklets starterbar is the bomb
[06:07] <kangpeh> so i'll be straight :D
[06:08] <kangpeh> im gonna paint the laptop case/outer cover too
[06:08] <flogiston> HI im about to format a ntfs disk in to linux filesystem. But cfdisk cannot find my drive.
[06:08] <kangpeh> to make it look like aMac lol
[06:08] <evrix> ehm
[06:08] <kangpeh> flogiston: lol
[06:08] <kangpeh> flogiston: are you sure its cfdisk that can't find it or your kernel heh
[06:08] <kangpeh> or for that matter are you sure u are lookin on the right drive for such partition
[06:08] <kangpeh> heh
[06:08] <kangpeh> flogiston:  install gparted it is a graphical user interface that makes things go a lot easier :D
[06:09] <kangpeh> sudo apt-get install gparted
[06:09] <evrix> can we format ntfs?
[06:09] <kangpeh> or use your kynaptic or synaptic crapz
[06:09] <kangpeh> evrix: yeah
[06:09] <kangpeh> why not lol
[06:09] <evrix> sudo apt-get install yoursister
[06:09] <evrix> :p
[06:09] <flogiston> Thanks
[06:09] <kangpeh> evrix:  o_o
[06:09] <kangpeh> evrix:  you like cute girls?
[06:09] <kangpeh> or hot ones
[06:09] <evrix> of course not...
[06:09] <evrix> :P
[06:09] <kangpeh> which one - hot or cute
[06:10] <evrix> both if i can
[06:10] <kangpeh> based off your answer i can tell you a little bit about yourself
[06:10] <kangpeh> well which do you prefer the most
[06:10] <evrix> hmmm
[06:10] <kangpeh> cute like BoA and Hyori (see GOOGLE for such singers)
[06:10] <kangpeh> or hot like Jessica Simpson (See GOOGLE for such singers)
[06:10] <evrix> hmm
[06:10] <flogiston> I'm trying gparted now.
[06:10] <evrix> evanescence's singer
[06:10] <kangpeh> if u had to choose
[06:10] <kangpeh> flogiston: no doubt
[06:10] <kangpeh> evanescence's i c i c
[06:10] <evrix> dont't remember the name
[06:10] <flogiston> :)
[06:10] <kangpeh> evrix:  i know everything bout ur tastes now
[06:10] <kangpeh> :D
[06:11] <kangpeh> evrix:  you should google for 'suicide girls' and check out that site (not work safe) - no it is not a suicide site lolol its an adult site
[06:11] <kangpeh> but they have girls that fit your tastes.
[06:11] <evrix> hmm
[06:11] <kangpeh> its actually a brand of adult media that is growing large though
[06:11] <djm62> this ain't regular #ubuntu :-/
[06:12] <kangpeh> djm62: How can I help you?
[06:12] <Nevado> suicide girls? :\
[06:12] <evrix> not my fault
[06:12] <kangpeh> It isn't girls doing suicide...
[06:12] <evrix> he's MAC addicted
[06:12] <kangpeh> It is like a 'gothic themed' adult site :O
[06:12] <Nevado> lol, doesn't sound very appealing
[06:12] <Howitzer> WHERE
[06:12] <Howitzer> Oeh
[06:12] <kangpeh> it's growing quite large in the adult community
[06:12] <djm62> kangpeh: no need of help (unless you know how to get xrandr rotating on a laptop
[06:12] <evrix> suicide=sue side?
[06:12] <Howitzer> c'mon
[06:12] <kangpeh> djm62:  what video card do you have
[06:13] <djm62> intel i810
[06:13] <Howitzer> gimme a link of the gothic themed adult suicide chicks site
[06:13] <kangpeh> djm62:  hmm is it even supported on that gfx card
[06:13] <kangpeh> heh
[06:13] <Howitzer> \ o /
[06:13] <Howitzer> i'm horny
[06:13] <Howitzer> oh god
[06:13] <Howitzer> nvm
[06:13] <kangpeh> err
[06:13] <kangpeh> howitzer:  You are not 18.
[06:13] <djm62> kangpeh: I thought it was a pure software thing...
[06:13] <evrix> he's 81
[06:13] <Howitzer> how the hell do you know?
[06:13] <kangpeh> djm62:  I wish but... let me show you the error I get with an ATI video card
[06:13] <djm62> the rotate, not the resize...the resize works
[06:13] <Howitzer> who knows i'm some 56year old guy luring 3year olds with candy :<
[06:14] <kangpeh> The X Server does not support XRandR
[06:14] <kangpeh> its software-driver based yeah
[06:14] <kangpeh> so yeah software pure
[06:14] <kangpeh> oh no doubt
[06:14] <djm62> kangpeh: did you enable it in xorg.conf?
[06:14] <kangpeh> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[06:14] <evrix> hm?
[06:14] <kangpeh> djm62:  ati fglrx doesn't support XrandR
[06:14] <kangpeh> ;/
[06:14] <kangpeh> i have like fglrx 8.10.12 :/
[06:14] <kangpeh> thats like the latest i THINK
[06:14] <kangpeh> i just compiled it like 3 weeks ago atleast
[06:14] <kangpeh> and created a .deb huhu
[06:14] <evrix> wOW
[06:14] <evrix> :)
[06:15] <kangpeh> i cheated though. cuz when i say compile i really didnt compile anything
[06:15] <kangpeh> and to make the deb i just used 'alien'
[06:15] <kangpeh> lol
[06:15] <djm62> kangpeh: have you did the option "Xrandr" "enable" or whatever in xorg.conf, though
[06:15] <kangpeh> but yeah
[06:15] <kangpeh> djm62: i think i commented it out
[06:15] <evrix> that may be the reason...
[06:15] <kangpeh> djm62: the thing is - if its in - gdm fails to start
[06:15] <kangpeh> djm62:  because it says 'x server does not support xrandr extension'
[06:15] <kangpeh> or something
[06:15] <djm62> meh, proprietary drivers, what can you do
[06:16] <evrix> a poll
[06:16] <evrix> kde or gnome?
[06:16] <djm62> i810: slow but free, like a wild tortoise ;)
[06:16] <kangpeh> GNOME.
[06:16] <evrix> hm
[06:16] <djm62> evrix: gnome, because I've used it since 1.2
[06:16] <evrix> KDE
[06:16] <kangpeh> yo lets change ubuntu's reputation
[06:16] <kangpeh> lets make ubuntu the 3733t distro to use
[06:16] <djm62> evrix: KDE is good, but gnome's what I like
[06:16] <kangpeh> and get all the highschool college kids to use ubuntu
[06:16] <kangpeh> need to get cute schoolgirls
[06:16] <kangpeh> in ubuntu commercials on tv
[06:17] <evrix> gnome has strange things
[06:17] <kangpeh> asia carerra runs debian SID
[06:17] <kangpeh> o.o
[06:17] <zip> what is the easiest way to retrieve files from my OS X computer over a LAN?
[06:17] <kangpeh> i love gnome
[06:17] <djm62> ubuntu is leet, among the cognoscenti...debian with style
[06:17] <evrix> first evolution doesn't tells if i type wrong passwords
[06:17] <kangpeh> zip: ftp lol if you want EASIEST
[06:17] <kangpeh> heh
[06:17] <zip> yeah
[06:17] <zip> heh
[06:17] <zip> thats what i'm resorting too
[06:17] <zip> samba is not being friendly :P
[06:17] <kangpeh> thats the absolute easiest i.e., no looking up tutorials
[06:17] <kangpeh> no asking for help
[06:17] <kangpeh> no setting anythign up
[06:17] <kangpeh> lol
[06:18] <zip> yeah, i might have to do that
[06:18] <djm62> zip: ssh server on OS X, make it do sftp, and use a key-login?
[06:18] <kangpeh> well as long as u have an ftp server somewhere on either the mac or the other
[06:18] <zip> yeah its running an FTP server
[06:18] <kangpeh> no doubt
[06:18] <kangpeh> zip:  that's prboly easiest then heh
[06:18] <djm62> zip: and you can add the sftp server as a directory in gnome, and think about it no more
[06:18] <kangpeh> what djm62 said too
[06:18] <zip> yeah i just want to get the files i had on my laptop back
[06:18] <kangpeh> djm62 you are kind of smart man
[06:18] <kangpeh> who are you
[06:19] <zip> i copied them to my other computer so that i could erase my laptop HD and install ubuntu
[06:19] <evrix> guys i have to go
[06:19] <zip> hm
[06:19] <zip> FTP it is :D
[06:19] <kangpeh> peace out evrix
[06:19] <kangpeh> good luck with ur laptop
[06:19] <tahooie> I have an OpenGL compiling problem,
[06:19] <evrix> no need
[06:19] <evrix> i have an ecs now
[06:19] <kangpeh> tahooie:  use paste url in /topic
[06:19] <kangpeh> evrix: oh no doubt
[06:19] <kangpeh> zip:  coo coo
[06:19] <djm62> I know why this seems strange...I'm not usually out of work this early: different crowd
[06:19] <tahooie> kangpeh, ok, hang on...
[06:19] <kangpeh> tahooie: no doubt
[06:20] <kangpeh> djm62:  ahah not bad not bad
[06:20] <kangpeh> why are you out of work so early, FRI?
[06:20] <evrix> i was just curious about pavilion
[06:20] <kangpeh> evrix: ic ic
[06:20] <kangpeh> evrix
[06:20] <kangpeh> if someone made a company
[06:20] <djm62> kangpeh: I'm in scotland, UK, so not all that early
[06:20] <kangpeh> and got licensing rights from ubuntu
[06:20] <goldfish_> 17:20 !
[06:20] <kangpeh> to distro ubuntu as the OS on the laptop
[06:20] <kangpeh> would you buy the laptop
[06:20] <kangpeh> if it had competitive pricing and hardware
[06:20] <evrix> me?
[06:20] <kangpeh> eyah
[06:20] <kangpeh> yeah
[06:20] <goldfish_> hp distribute ubuntu on their laptops
[06:20] <djm62> kangpeh: HP are doing it
[06:20] <kangpeh> are you serious
[06:20] <kangpeh> ARRGH
[06:21] <kangpeh> why is HP always trying to steal the $ making opportunities from us little ones
[06:21] <kangpeh> ;o
[06:21] <evrix> no need for a laptop with ubuntu already in
[06:21] <djm62> actually, can anyone explain the logic of putting FREEDOS on them, rather than a straight linux install?
[06:21] <evrix> i'd do by myself
[06:21] <kangpeh> evrix:  i awnt ubuntu to get popular like MAC dude
[06:21] <kangpeh> evrix:  i want ubuntu to be the 'it'
[06:21] <evrix> i want it to be more popular
[06:21] <kangpeh> i want it to be like 'linux? whats linux.  err i mean ubuntu.  AHH UBUNTU i know UBUNTU!"
[06:21] <kangpeh> i want it to be like that yo
[06:22] <Howitzer> adrian@ubuntu:/media$ sudo cedega /cdrom/setup.exe
[06:22] <Howitzer> wine: '/home/adrian/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' is not owned by you
[06:22] <evrix> but i don't think i'll see in this week...
[06:22] <djm62> kangpeh: next iteration, the desktop functionality will have surpassed window..mono, beagle, F-spot: these are the unique selling points
[06:22] <kangpeh> so straight up ubuntu is like as popular in the OS world as ipod's are in the mp3 world
[06:22] <Howitzer> What do i do against that?
[06:22] <evrix> change permissions howi...
[06:22] <goldfish_> Howitzer: who owns it?
[06:22] <kangpeh> Howitzer: sudo chown -R adrian:<WHATEVERURGROUPIS> .transgaming
[06:22] <kangpeh> heh
[06:22] <Howitzer> no idea :s
[06:22] <pfp> Howitzer: why the sudo
[06:23] <Howitzer> well
[06:23] <mic__> can some one recommend a wireless pci card that works out of the box please?
[06:23] <goldfish_> indeed
[06:23] <kangpeh> oh yeah
[06:23] <kangpeh> why the sudo
[06:23] <kangpeh> lol
[06:23] <Howitzer> i saw before it didn't give me access
[06:23] <Howitzer> okay
[06:23] <Howitzer> ahh yes i remember
[06:23] <kangpeh> dont put the sud0
[06:23] <djm62> mic__: I think linksys are well-supported
[06:23] <kangpeh> howitzer: u should just get point2play
[06:23] <kangpeh> makes life e.z.
[06:23] <kangpeh> djm62: o-0o
[06:23] <mic__> I can't get my linksys card to remember settings
[06:23] <Howitzer> kangpeh, you should get me a credit card -_-
[06:23] <pfp> Howitzer: hmmyes, i'd drop the sudo and fix perms elsewhere
[06:23] <evrix> huh
[06:23] <kangpeh> mic:  straight up a lot of wireless cards work
[06:23] <evrix> me too
[06:24] <kangpeh> mic:  there is this thing that i can't remember the name it is like ndiswrapper or something
[06:24] <goldfish_> yeah, ndiswrapper
[06:24] <kangpeh> mic:  but using that i got my wireless card to work even and it is like hella unsupported lol
[06:24] <Howitzer> ROFL
[06:24] <evrix> it IS that
[06:24] <mic__> I know about ndis wrapper
[06:24] <djm62> mic__: what sort of settings? how are you making the settings?
[06:24] <mic__> I am looking for one that will plug and play
[06:24] <goldfish_> Howitzer: work?
[06:24] <Howitzer> DirectX 9 installed halfly Oo
[06:24] <kangpeh> and then i just use ubuntu's network configuration junkaroo and voailla its all setup just like that
[06:24] <evrix> this evening i'll plug and plauy
[06:24] <evrix> hopefully
[06:24] <mic__> the one I have uses rt2500 chipset
[06:24] <kangpeh> mic: straight up ndiswrapper is like plug and play yo
[06:24] <Howitzer> i clicked install DirectX for fun and it worked untill the progress bar got in half :D
[06:24] <goldfish_> indeed
[06:25] <goldfish_> 3 commands
[06:25] <mic__> using the wiki guide I get it working but on reboot it is gone again
[06:25] <kangpeh> mic:  just add a few linez
[06:25] <goldfish_> yeah, make a script to do it
[06:25] <kangpeh> to rc.local lol
[06:25] <djm62> mic__: if the hardware works, then you can make the settings persistent...would you mind telling the room what you've done, what happens, and what you'd like to happen?
[06:25] <kangpeh> whatever u typed using ur wiki or whatever that is?
[06:25] <goldfish_> Howitzer: lol
[06:25] <kangpeh> put that in /etc/rc.local lol
[06:25] <d4rksh4de> can anyone help me with my keyboard problem?
[06:25] <Howitzer> huh
[06:25] <Howitzer> wtf
[06:25] <kangpeh> d4rksh4de: wussup, ur a's are turning into 4's? o_O
[06:26] <evrix> poltergeists
[06:26] <Howitzer> i clicked on 'Play' and their are 3 options: 640, 720 and back
[06:26] <d4rksh4de> kangpeh, not really lol
[06:26] <evrix> hmm
[06:26] <djm62> I'm sitting in an internet caf right now with a random wireless card, and it booted onto the local network...these things /are/ possible
[06:26] <Howitzer> only the option 'back' works -_-
[06:26] <kangpeh> darkshade:  hehe im just playin
[06:26] <evrix> ehm
[06:26] <kangpeh> darkshade: wussup though, whats wrong mang
[06:26] <tahooie> Ok, OPENGL compiling problem here, if anyone could help me with it.       http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/204
[06:26] <kangpeh> tahooie: checkin
[06:27] <kangpeh> lol
[06:27] <kangpeh> tahooie
[06:27] <kangpeh> i meant
[06:27] <mic__> djm62 I tried using this guide      https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[06:27] <zip> FTP won't connect to the OS X computer =\
[06:27] <kangpeh> could u paste the actual errors given to j00 by the compiler lol
[06:27] <Howitzer> EEEEEEEK
[06:27] <Howitzer> it's working
[06:27] <kangpeh> zip: are you serious
[06:27] <Howitzer> well
[06:27] <Howitzer> wait
[06:27] <zip> yes
[06:27] <kangpeh> zip:  maybe your os x computer has a firewall?
[06:27] <zip> no
[06:27] <kangpeh> zip:  maybe somehow the ip of the osx computer changed
[06:27] <tahooie> kangpeh, I dont have them at the moment, its on my home box
[06:27] <Howitzer> it's updating
[06:27] <Howitzer> okay
[06:27] <kangpeh> zip:  maybe the os x ftpd is misconfigured
[06:27] <evrix> i'm melting
[06:27] <djm62> mic__: and are you using/needing WPA?
[06:28] <zip> heh
[06:28] <mic__> or could some one post an idiots guide to installing and using ndis wrapper
[06:28] <Howitzer> PLEASE make GW work :')
[06:28] <Howitzer> i'm desperate :(
[06:28] <evrix> shall put my head into the refrigerator
[06:28] <kangpeh> mic:  try doing what that thing says and just add it to ur rc.local
[06:28] <mic__> no don't need wpa
[06:28] <kangpeh> mic__: check dis out my mang
[06:28] <Howitzer> what is ndis wrapper?
[06:28] <zip> possible, i'll FTP to 127. on the os x comp
[06:28] <evrix> night to all
[06:28] <Howitzer> zip, give the adress of the os x comp :D
[06:28] <zip> :P
[06:28] <kangpeh> wait i dont know where i put the thing
[06:28] <kangpeh> lol
[06:28] <Howitzer> would somebody allow me to acces their pc?
[06:28] <Howitzer> i'm curious about how it goes
[06:29] <tahooie> kangpeh, and the error seems to be intermitent, but I havn't yet figured out what causes it. Deffinately nothing in the code because that hasnt changed.
[06:29] <thenuke> Howitzer: X-D
[06:29] <Howitzer> lol
[06:29] <Ghetek> anybody know of a good app to get cd info from amazon/freedb and write tags onto mp3s?
[06:29] <Howitzer> i'm just asking :<
[06:29] <Howitzer> or ehh
[06:29] <thenuke> Howitzer: if you let anybody to access yours
[06:29] <kangpeh> tahooie: hmm
[06:29] <djm62> mic__: so, what happens when you do "System->Administration->Networking" and try to configure the card?
[06:29] <d4rksh4de> why cd rom is not giving my cd back?
[06:29] <yccheok> i wan to use pkg-config to find certain package but not found
[06:29] <zip> apparently no default action is associated with this connection =p
[06:29] <Howitzer> lol
[06:29] <thenuke> Howitzer: but if you just want to see how it goes, you should do it with your own PC?
[06:29] <mic__> djm62 it works untill I reboot
[06:29] <Howitzer> ehh no
[06:29] <yccheok> how can i use pkg-config to list out all the packages in my system seem by pkg-config?
[06:29] <zip> the OS X computer can connect to itself though
[06:29] <Howitzer> HEY WAIT
[06:29] <thenuke> Howitzer: it IS the same thing you know :D
[06:29] <tahooie> kangpeh, it was working before I installed build-essential. Then it quit, but removing build-essential didn't fix it right away
[06:30] <Howitzer> i'll do it to my dad's pc
[06:30] <djm62> Ghetek: musicbrainz, IIRC tries to do what you're asking, but I've never used it
[06:30] <kangpeh> howitzer: i could give you a shell on my 1000Mbit box located in Chicago IL running FreeBSD 5.3 with 3ghz HT procerssor... if u want
[06:30] <Howitzer> no wait
[06:30] <kangpeh> howitzer: but its going down soon cuz im moving it to fort lee NJ
[06:30] <Howitzer> kangpeh, yes please
[06:30] <Howitzer> :<
[06:30] <kangpeh> howitzer: ok just paypal the $
[06:30] <Howitzer> Oo
[06:30] <Howitzer> who said anything about pying
[06:30] <kangpeh> i charge $19.99/month for webhosting (includes shell) huhu
[06:30] <kangpeh> lol
[06:30] <Howitzer> *paying
[06:30] <Howitzer> lol
[06:30] <djm62> Howitzer: or you could try sdf.lonestar.org (it's netbsd but pretty cheap and decent)
[06:30] <kangpeh> oh free? i can't give u free - just lookup free shells on google ;p
[06:31] <amir__> how do install the w32codecs package? i get "no install candidate" for it (i have multiverse and universe in my apt.sources)
[06:31] <Howitzer> well ehh
[06:31] <thenuke> Howitzer: I really cant see the difference if you connect to your localhost or to your dads for example
[06:31] <kangpeh> amir:  i think w32 codecs are in a different repository
[06:31] <thenuke> if the only reason is you want to see how it works
[06:31] <kangpeh> tahooie: hmm
[06:31] <kangpeh> tahooie: honestly i dont know what to say my man...
[06:31] <djm62> mic__: so when you reboot, all you have to do is re-run the configuration dialogue?  do you have to re-input the information too?
[06:31] <kangpeh> taooie:  for now i say try googling for exact errors , i.e., cut/paste an error line in quotes "" into google
[06:31] <amir__> kangpeh, well, which one? marillat?
[06:31] <kangpeh> maybe someone else has had the same problem
[06:31] <zip> woot, connected =p
[06:31] <Fnoy> whats the atp-get code for gkrellm
[06:31] <kangpeh> amir:  that i could not tell you
[06:31] <djm62> Fnoy: apt-cache search krell
[06:32] <mic__> djm62 I have to start from scratch
[06:32] <kangpeh> amir:  your best bet is to type djm62:  help me
[06:32] <kangpeh> djm62 is the smartest guy in this channel right now bar none
[06:32] <amir__> thanks
[06:32] <amir__> i'll google a bit.
[06:32] <kangpeh> amir:  if you ask him i guarantee he can help you man
[06:32] <tahooie> kangpeh, well it was worth a shot. thanks anyway.
[06:32] <mic__> I would be happy just to buy a card that works and use this card in a windows only machine
[06:32] <kangpeh> tahooie: sorry :/
[06:32] <djm62> mic__: is it configured right now? if so can you look in /etc/network/interfaces?
[06:33] <mic__> no its not
[06:33] <nolose> hola
[06:33] <nolose> hi
[06:33] <Fnoy> djm62 what then
[06:33] <thenuke> Fnoy: and you REALLY did not even bother to try apt-get install gkrellm before actually asking how to apt-get install gkrellm..
[06:33] <djm62> mic__: can you look anyway? I want to see if the stuff is getting written to the file
[06:33] <mic__> sorry djm62 I thinkm this is a bit beyond me
[06:33] <kangpeh> bbl i have to sleep for like 30 min real quick before the match
[06:33] <kangpeh> ;/
[06:33] <Fnoy> i did that thenuke
[06:33] <kangpeh> i hope i dont get beat up lol
[06:33] <djm62> Fnoy: that list you get, one of those is the gkrellm package
[06:33] <kangpeh> i didnt train at all this week
[06:33] <kangpeh> :/
[06:33] <FLD> hi
[06:33] <thenuke> Fnoy: well, there is such package
[06:33] <FLD> i found but
[06:33] <kangpeh> FLD: bye
[06:33] <FLD> bug
[06:33] <djm62> Fnoy: I told you how to find out, all you have to do is read
[06:33] <FLD> at instalation cd
[06:34] <FLD> where should i tell this terrible bug
[06:34] <nolose> are here something from spain?
[06:34] <zip> hm.. how long should FTP hang on "preparing to copy"
[06:34] <zip> its about 2gb of files
[06:34] <mic__> okay djm62 I am looking
[06:34] <Fnoy> my bad
[06:34] <mic__> djm62 what do you need
[06:34] <djm62> mic__: the trade-off in linux is more time configuring, less time maintaining...I don't /think/ you have a hardware problem, so I don't want to tell you to get a new card for nothing
[06:35] <djm62> mic__: can you use the pastebin mentioned in the topic?
[06:35] <kangpeh> fld: wuts the bug
[06:35] <mic__> djm62 I'll try
[06:35] <FLD> at partition
[06:35] <FLD> it does not work properly
[06:35] <kangpeh> FLD: how so
[06:35] <djm62> mic__: when you say PCI, you're not on a laptop, you want this machine to find the wireless network when in boots, right?
[06:36] <mic__> djm62 it is desktop and yes
[06:36] <djm62> mic__: post the URL when you have
[06:36] <FLD> kangpeh if you delete 2partitions you get 2 free spaces
[06:36] <djm62> mic__: that makes things simpler
[06:36] <FLD> thats wrong
[06:36] <FLD> you should get only 1
[06:36] <FLD> so if you have 2 10G partitions you cant make one 20G
[06:36] <djm62> FLD: it depends if the partitions are next to each other...partition represent "real" disk geometry
[06:37] <FLD> its still bug :/
[06:37] <mic__> djm62    http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/205
[06:37] <djm62> FLD: it's a bug with the universe...talk to the Maintainer ;)
[06:37] <kangpeh> djm62: what is your job...
[06:38] <kangpeh> djm62: you seem to be very knowledgable
[06:38] <djm62> FLD: you can move partitions if you want to consolidate the free space
[06:38] <kangpeh> like ur career i mean
[06:39] <djm62> FLD: moving a partition takes a while, but it's not a problem
[06:39] <FLD> :I
[06:39] <FLD> or you can just use fdisk at another console :P
[06:39] <zip> has anyone had problems getting an ibook internal microhpone to work with ubuntu
[06:39] <mic__> djm62 was that any help?
[06:40] <djm62> mic__: reading that, I have a feeling that your card is being set up at boot, but that eth0 is being used in preference...
[06:40] <djm62> mic__: because having two links to the internet is obviously confusing
[06:41] <mic__> I am only using two links so that I can get help here
[06:41] <FLD> well
[06:41] <mic__> djm62 what would be your advice?
[06:41] <FLD> somebody report that bug
[06:41] <djm62> mic__: I think a first approach would be to move the line about "eth0" down to below the section on ra0
[06:41] <FLD> it could destroy lifes
[06:41] <FLD> ;D
[06:42] <mic__> djm62 okay I'll try  that and then should I reboot?
[06:42] <djm62> making ra0 the primary interface
[06:42] <HaKux> mako, !!! the midsevewebfest dude!!
[06:42] <djm62> mic__: the problem is what happens when you boot, so yeah.  That is just my best guess based on what you're said
[06:43] <mic__> djm62 thank you I'll give it a try :)
[06:43] <djm62> mic__: come back even if it works...nice to have a hunch confirmed
[06:43] <mic__> djm62 how does one edit this?sorry to be a pain
[06:44] <HaKux> mako, dude...
[06:44] <djm62> mic__: no probs, from a terminal type "sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces"
[06:44] <d4rksh4de> anyone knows where is my keyboard settings file?
[06:44] <djm62> mic__: gedit is pretty easy to use, just like a word processor
[06:44] <mic__> djm62 again ty for your help and time
[06:44] <mic__> I will return
[06:45] <djm62> d4rksh4de: for X or console? do you want to define a keyboard or change to a different existing definition?
[06:45] <d4rksh4de> djm62, my current settings
[06:45] <MarvinR> is there someone of the Accessibility Team on this channel?
[06:46] <d4rksh4de> djm62, like im writing now...
[06:46] <djm62> d4rksh4de: that's not very illuminating.  What do you want to happen, and what's happening at the moment?
[06:46] <d4rksh4de> djm62, i have problems, some keys arent working
[06:46] <djm62> what keys?
[06:47] <d4rksh4de> djm62, cant type them lol
[06:47] <MarvinR> d4rksh4de: let me gues... some multimedia keys?
[06:47] <djm62> d4rksh4de: ah ;)
[06:47] <d4rksh4de> djm62, no,
[06:47] <d4rksh4de> MarvinR, no
[06:47] <djm62> d4rksh4de: where are you from? what sort of keyboard is it?
[06:48] <d4rksh4de> djm62, its estonian keyboard
[06:48] <d4rksh4de> lol
[06:48] <d4rksh4de> not yet :P
[06:48] <djm62> d4rksh4de: System->Preferences->Keyboard
[06:49] <d4rksh4de> djm62, yea but i get errors when i set there
[06:49] <djm62> d4rksh4de: and you should be able to pick the right settings using only the mouse ;)
[06:50] <d4rksh4de> djm62, there i can set the language and type
[06:50] <d4rksh4de> djm62, when i set language i get errors and when i set type i get errors
[06:50] <ato> hi, i'm new to ubuntu... need to know what is the default password for root?
[06:50] <djm62> d4rksh4de: what sort of errors?
[06:51] <d4rksh4de> djm62, a sec...
[06:52] <afonit> ato:  in terminal, type "sudo passwd root
[06:52] <afonit> and it will let you set it up
[06:52] <skel_> hello
[06:53] <ato> thanks i'll try
[06:53] <skel_> i got a question
[06:53] <skel_> i mounted my  Fat drive
[06:53] <skel_> but i want to see it in My computer...
[06:53] <tweakism> I have a question.  Do you think it's bad to do metamphetamine?
[06:53] <skel_> lol
[06:53] <skel_> nope :)
[06:54] <ccc> lol
[06:54] <Fnoy> ok its time for another n00b qusation
[06:55] <afonit> ato: for more info refer to this link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38343&highlight=sudo
[06:55] <Fnoy> wher can i see what ubuntu version i have
[06:55] <skel_> system About Ubuntu
[06:55] <Fnoy> like Hoary
[06:55] <Seveas> Fnoy, cat /etc/issue
[06:55] <Fnoy> etc
[06:55] <Fnoy> thx
[06:55] <skel_> System>about Ubuntu
[06:55] <skel_> tahts what i always do :P
[06:56] <Funraiser> how do I launch a shell script?
[06:56] <skel_> I dont know
[06:56] <Seveas> ./scriptname
[06:56] <Seveas> or bash scriptname
[06:56] <Funraiser> k thanks
[06:57] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, can u help me with my keybd problem?
[06:57] <monke1> I believe you can have it run by just typing in the script by moving the file over to /usr/bin
[06:57] <monke1> you need superuser settings for that though
[06:57] <Seveas> monke1, use /usr/local/bin for that
[06:58] <monke1> oh yeah
[06:59] <ato> afonit: after i try the line and i was ask for password but yet i still get 3 password wrong, what should i do?
[07:01] <afonit> ato: hummm
[07:01] <Kirsch> hey guys, does anyone have any suggestions for converting a BIN/CUE into an ISO? (yes in linux)
[07:02] <Seveas> Kirsch, bchunk
[07:02] <ato> afonit: i try it but still...
[07:02] <ato> afonit: wat is next? did i miss something?
[07:03] <afonit> ato: that is what I do and works, perhpas someone else will know
[07:03] <Seveas> ato, what's the problem?
[07:03] <Trackilizer> hey guys
[07:04] <Seveas> hi
[07:04] <Trackilizer> just wanted to say im a new to linux and ubuntu is the only distro so far that simply works
[07:04] <Seveas> Trackilizer, welcome aboard :)
[07:04] <Trackilizer> i still do have one problem :(
[07:04] <Kirsch> Seveas: thx
[07:04] <ato> seveas: i don't know how to set my root passwd
[07:04] <Kirsch> Trackilizer: i'm sure one of us can try and help
[07:04] <Kirsch> ato: uhm. you shouldn't unless you really need to....
[07:05] <Seveas> ato: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:05] <Trackilizer> ok,
[07:05] <d4rksh4de> anyone can help me with my keyboard problem?
[07:05] <Kirsch> ahh, they made a wiki entry... its been a while.
[07:05] <Trackilizer> this may sound stupid but
[07:05] <Seveas> ato, why do you need it, you usually don't...
[07:05] <Trackilizer> i know how to install software
[07:05] <Kirsch> d4rksh4de: just ask your question
[07:05] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, what's up?
[07:05] <Seveas> I bet you asked before, but I was having dinner :)
[07:05] <Trackilizer> however how do i uninstall it?
[07:05] <ato> seveas: ya that is the question and thanks for letting me know
[07:05] <Seveas> Trackilizer, also with synaptic
[07:05] <d4rksh4de> i have set the language
[07:05] <ato> seveas: I'm really new to debian
[07:06] <Seveas> you can simply unselect it and hit apply, it will then be removed
[07:06] <d4rksh4de> but i cant find the right type
[07:06] <Kirsch> Seveas: is it in REPO? (bchunk)?
[07:06] <Trackilizer> i see so just search for the app and uninstall?
[07:06] <Seveas> Kirsch, yes
[07:06] <d4rksh4de> it gives errors all the time
[07:06] <Seveas> Trackilizer, indeed
[07:06] <Trackilizer> can you guys suggest any good codec packs
[07:06] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, what type of keyboard do you have?
[07:06] <Kirsch> is there anyone here on the breezy team?
[07:06] <Trackilizer> i installed the one on the ubuntu site
[07:06] <Seveas> Trackilizer, www.mplayerhq.hu has good ones
[07:06] <Trackilizer> but the videos seem to be jaggy
[07:06] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, it should be 101 keys
[07:07] <Trackilizer> Seveas: Thx
[07:07] <djm62> d4rksh4de: estonian
[07:07] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, estonian keyboard
[07:07] <Trackilizer> i didnt install the codecs using synaptic so how do i uninstall them?
[07:07] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, hmm, is that azerty/qwerty/qwertz or completely different?
[07:07] <Seveas> Trackilizer, how did you install them?
[07:07] <Kirsch> Trackilizer: how did u install them? (from source)?
[07:07] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, qwerty
[07:08] <Trackilizer> i did it like it says in the ubuntuguide
[07:08] <Trackilizer> form the website
[07:08] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, and a generic 101/102 (or 104/105) keyboard does not work..?
[07:08] <Seveas> ah ubuntuguide
[07:08] <Seveas> that sucks...
[07:08] <Kirsch> URL? (i'm not familiar with those instructions)
[07:08] <Trackilizer> http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[07:08] <Seveas> We're spending most of our time correcting mistakes made by people who used ubuntuguide
[07:08] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, dont know, i tried to select them but it gave errors
[07:08] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, what kind of error?
[07:09] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, ill show you
[07:09] <tkiesel> Hi everyone.
[07:09] <djm62> Seveas: is ubuntuguide fixable?
[07:09] <Seveas> djm62, someone has to pump some clue in the author
[07:09] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, well, actually i have selected 105 keys, and when i try to select language then it gaves errors
[07:10] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, hmm...
[07:10] <Trackilizer> so is there anyway i can uninstall those codecs??
[07:10] <Seveas> I'd like to see that error
[07:10] <Seveas> Trackilizer, these codecs are good
[07:10] <Trackilizer> i see...
[07:10] <Trackilizer> okay thx
[07:10] <Seveas> this is one of the points where ubuntuguide does not suck that bad :)
[07:10] <Trackilizer> again thanks alot guys
[07:11] <djm62> Seveas: it looks like a bug for d4rksh4de, for real
[07:11] <Trackilizer> and see you soon
[07:11] <Trackilizer> bye
[07:11] <mic__> djm62 I tried your suggestion with my wireless card no luck think I'll give it a rest
[07:11] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, I must, say never seen that error...
[07:11] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, have you enabled the estonian locale?
[07:11] <Seveas> (sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales)
[07:11] <tkiesel> I'm running an Ubuntu box as a server. Went for the full install, and want to pare it down a bit. I was wondering how I can have the system default to a text terminal login (no GDM, no X server loaded by default)
[07:11] <djm62> mic__: damn :(
[07:12] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, ok ill try
[07:12] <mic__> thanks for your time and help djm62
[07:12] <djm62> tkiesel: you still want X installed, just not running by default?
[07:13] <tkiesel> djm62: Precisely. I'll be remote managing via ssh, but if I send anyone in to physically access, they might want a friendly GUI. ;)
[07:13] <djm62> tkiesel: so it's not a disk space thing?
[07:13] <tkiesel> djm62: Nope.
[07:13] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, and how to i know which is right?
[07:13] <Seveas> tkiesel: sudo update-rc.d gdm start 13 3 4 5 stop 13 1 2 6
[07:13] <tkiesel> djm62: Just a "I don't want X hogging RAM unless it needs to" thing.
[07:14] <djm62> tkiesel: whate Seveas said
[07:14] <Seveas> tkiesel: sudo update-rc.d gdm start 13 3 4 5 stop 01 1 2 6
[07:14] <Seveas> take this last one
[07:14] <tkiesel> Seveas: Ahh. Thanks. :)
[07:15] <djm62> tkiesel: and if you're logged in on ssh, /etc/init.d/gdm start to bring it up
[07:15] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, what is the countrycode for estonia??
[07:15] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, this is selected et_EE.UTF-8 UTF-8
[07:15] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, that's a good one
[07:15] <djm62> tkiesel: "/etc/init.d/gdm start"
[07:15] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, should be et
[07:15] <Seveas> djm62, tkiesel, or simply: telinit 3
[07:15] <tkiesel> Seveas: "update-rc.d: error: expected runlevel [0-9S]  (did you forget "." ?)
[07:15] <tkiesel> usage: update-rc.d [-n]  [-f]  <basename> remove
[07:15] <tkiesel>        update-rc.d [-n]  <basename> defaults [NN | sNN kNN] 
[07:15] <tkiesel>        update-rc.d [-n]  <basename> start|stop NN runlvl [runlvl]  [...]  .
[07:15] <tkiesel>                 -n: not really
[07:15] <tkiesel>                 -f: force
[07:15] <tkiesel> "
[07:15] <Seveas> tkiesel, DO NOT paste in here please
[07:16] <mic__> djm62 thank you again for your time,I'm going to throw rocks at this thing tc all
[07:16] <tkiesel> Seveas: Aye aye. I'll remember that. Sorry.
[07:16] <Seveas> tkiesel: sudo update-rc.d gdm start 13 3 4 5 . stop 01 1 2 6
[07:16] <Seveas> I forgot the .
[07:16] <Seveas> it's important :D
[07:16] <tkiesel> Seveas: heehee.  I'm making a note to learn the guts of that command.  More fun stuff to explore!
[07:17] <Seveas> tkiesel, man update-rc.d
[07:17] <Seveas> manpages are nice :)
[07:17] <tkiesel> Seveas: That was my planned method of research. ;)
[07:17] <Seveas> :)
[07:17] <tkiesel> Seveas: It's still throwing that particular error.
[07:18] <Seveas> hmm
[07:18] <skel__> hmm
[07:18] <Seveas> argh, me must learn to read manpages more carefully
[07:18] <Seveas> and dots are too small
[07:18] <Seveas> tkiesel: sudo update-rc.d gdm start 13 3 4 5 . stop 01 0 1 2 6 .
[07:18] <RicardoBarrios> Hi mako
[07:18] <zip> i'm strongly considering installing Xfce, gnome is irritating me :\
[07:18] <Seveas> It wants both periods...
[07:18] <Seveas> zip, by all means, try :)
[07:19] <Seveas> xfce is nice
[07:19] <djm62> zip: it's all up to you...money back guarantee
[07:19] <zip> heh
[07:19] <zip> is it difficult to install?
[07:19] <Seveas> zip, not at all
[07:19] <tkiesel> Seveas: Yeah. The most endearing and most infuriating aspect of computers is that they only do precisely what you tell them to.
[07:19] <Seveas> sudo aptitude install xfce4
[07:19] <Seveas> tkiesel, indeed, they should have a brain ;)
[07:19] <tkiesel> Seveas: Improvement. Now it's just saying "System startup links for /etc/init.d/gdm already exist."
[07:19] <djm62> warning, not an error
[07:19] <zip> well, install, enable, and use i meant
[07:20] <tkiesel> Seveas: Noooo! Then they'd take over. ;)
[07:20] <djm62> ?
[07:20] <Seveas> tkiesel, then first try update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[07:20] <goldfish_> zip: xfce4 is cool
[07:20] <djm62> zip: that's the install and enable bits...apt can't use it for you
[07:20] <Seveas> zip, that installs & enables it
[07:20] <Seveas> it's easy to use :)
[07:20] <zip> hm
[07:20] <d4rksh4de> brb
[07:21] <zip> i can't do this with Synaptic Package Manager then? =p
[07:21] <colmore> quick question: i need to run a setserial command before X boots, into what file and where should I place the command?
[07:21] <thoreauputic> zip: sure you can
[07:21] <Seveas> zip, adtitude and synaptic accomplish the same :)
[07:21] <djm62> zip: oh, of course, search xfce
[07:21] <tkiesel> Seveas: Excellent!  Worked like a charm!  So now "/etc/init.d/gdm start" will kill Gnome and bring everythign up to the new defaults?
[07:21] <zip> did
[07:21] <Seveas> but make sure you install the xfce4 metapackage
[07:21] <djm62> zip: it's just easier to type it in here using apt-get or aptitude
[07:21] <zip> no hits
[07:21] <Seveas> tkiesel, no, invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[07:22] <Seveas> and then you're up to the new defaults :)
[07:22] <Seveas> tkiesel, and starting gdm is simply telinit 3
[07:22] <tkiesel> Seveas: Ahh. Okay. That stopped gdm, but I see gnome bits and xorg still running. *scratches head*
[07:22] <Seveas> hmm
[07:22] <Seveas> odd
[07:23] <Seveas> they should be killed with it
[07:23] <tkiesel> I can kill them piecemeal.
[07:24] <HappyFool> colmore: do you need to run setserial on boot, or every time X starts?
[07:25] <colmore> at boot, before X starts
[07:25] <colmore> but I'm assuming if I restart X, it won't mess with my serial settings
[07:25] <HappyFool> i'm not sure what the One True Way is, but you could add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[07:26] <hussam> hey, I installed 3 games using wine, but they won't run afterwards because they don't find the cdrom drive, how can I fix this?
[07:26] <osiekhan> what do the names represent as far as "warty" "hoary" "breezy"? i imagine its something like stable, unstable and testing but i want to be sure.
[07:26] <CyberdogX> yikes
[07:26] <CyberdogX> lots of folks
[07:26] <radiodog> has anyone finished the breezy torrent that can join back in? i'm at 92.4%, and it's going at 1kb/sec...
[07:26] <CyberdogX> breezy?
[07:27] <HappyFool> osiekhan: they're the names for the six monthly releases. warty was october 2004, hoary april 2005 and breezy october 2006
[07:27] <Gentleman_finn> hey, one off my friends is trying to install Ubuntu 5.04, but when he comes to where he makes his username, when he writes the password the second time, it goes back to where he can make a new user?? why is that?
[07:27] <mindspin> read the topic ?
[07:27] <CyberdogX> i have Hoary
[07:27] <CyberdogX> PPC
[07:27] <Seveas> HappyFool, breezy is october 2005, not 2006 ;)
[07:27] <HappyFool> doh
[07:27] <HappyFool> ;)
[07:27] <d4rksh4de> Gentleman_finn, hey i had the same problem
[07:27] <Seveas> Gentleman_finn, he should type his password correctly...
[07:27] <CyberdogX> although i haven't really used it yet
[07:28] <Gentleman_finn> he tryed 6 times
[07:28] <CyberdogX> it won't get past my second display card without hanging
[07:28] <Gentleman_finn> even with small passwords
[07:28] <colmore> Thanks, HappyFool
[07:28] <d4rksh4de> Gentleman_finn, i just reinstalled
[07:28] <Seveas> Gentleman_finn, maybe his username contains invalid characters
[07:28] <Gentleman_finn> d4rksh4de: what did you do?
[07:28] <moquist> so how do I get rid of the "perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings" messages that I get all the time with a regular Hoary installation?
[07:28] <osiekhan> HappyFool: so if you install with hoary and do an update, it should in theory upgrade you to breezy...correct?
[07:28] <Gentleman_finn> hmm maybe..! to sec I'll ask him
[07:28] <Seveas> osiekhan, DO NOT use breesy
[07:29] <Seveas> breezy is unstable, broken even
[07:29] <HappyFool> osiekhan: not by default. you need to tweak a few things to upgrade to breezy
[07:29] <HappyFool> osiekhan: normal 'updates' are just security fixes etc
[07:29] <CyberdogX> not exactly a breeze then eh?
[07:29] <Seveas> and should not yet be used by people who cannot even answer that simple question
[07:29] <mindspin> more the bleeding in bleeding edge
[07:30] <CyberdogX> any PPC users here?
[07:30] <Gentleman_finn> ok no invalid caracters, he is going to try d4rksh4de suggestion
[07:31] <CyberdogX> or is there a ubuntu ppc channel?
[07:31] <d4rksh4de> Gentleman_finn, i installed yesterday and had the same problem
[07:31] <d4rksh4de> Gentleman_finn, and reinstalled, then it worked well
[07:32] <Gentleman_finn> yes, we are going to try that now :)
[07:32] <Gentleman_finn> thnaks
[07:32] <Gentleman_finn> thanks
[07:32] <d4rksh4de> Gentleman_finn, no problem
[07:33] <colmore> anyone have a good guess as to why the 2.6.11 kernel makes my computer hang after graphical login?
[07:33] <radiodog> why not?
[07:33] <d4rksh4de> Gentleman_finn, u from finland?
[07:33] <Seveas> colmore, the 2.6.11 kernel is unsupported and known to contain bugs
[07:34] <Seveas> simply said: do not use it
[07:34] <tkiesel> Seveas: I've got it working like a charm. It's operating noticably snappier since turnign off the GUI junk too!  Thanks for your help, yours and everyone's. :)
[07:34] <colmore> ok, Seveas
[07:35] <d4rksh4de> Seveas, where is keyboard config file?
[07:35] <colmore> and lastly (you guys rock) I can't seem to get mplayer working.  i downloaded the codec pack and unpacked it where the help file told me, yet it still crashes every time I try to load a movie
[07:35] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, /etc/X11/xorg.conf contains keyboard bits
[07:36] <Seveas> /etc/X11/xkb contains a lot of keyboard data
[07:36] <Gentleman_finn> d4rksh4de: nope Denmark :)
[06:35] (reka/#ubuntu) Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7
[06:35] (reka/#ubuntu) Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7
[06:35] (dasa/#ubuntu) soo...no ideas on how to enable direct 3d acceleration on a linux ppc
[06:35] (nemik/#ubuntu) IPv6? is that in the universe, could i apt-get it?
[06:35] (CarlK/#ubuntu) nemik, not enabled by default, and apt-get install openssh-server  is the setup procedure
[06:35] (ghjhjgfjfg/#ubuntu) please help me with grub.. need to go to work tomorrow with thus computer
[06:35] (ogge/#ubuntu) what can we expect in the breezy release?
[06:35] (reka/#ubuntu) jepsti: that's the version in the repo
[06:35] (nikkia/#ubuntu) nemik, IPv6 support is in the standard kernel installed
[06:35] (Asriel/#ubuntu) Direct3D is a Microsoft API - the only way you'll get it to work is via Wine
[06:35] (lsuactiafner/#ubuntu) ghjhjgfjfg : think lilo..
[06:35] <Asriel> and even then, it won't fully emulate everything
[06:35] <nikkia> nemik, it can be a pain to setup tho, you'd need one machine to act as a tunnel probably
[06:35] <reka> jepsti: not likely to provide a later one as only security updates will be entered iirc
[06:35] <jhenn> Every time I open a data cd in nautilus the cd spins up and it brings up the contents, but the mouse freezes, and restarting x doesn't bring the mouse back. i have to manually reboot. anyone know why?
[06:36] <jepsti> reka: vlc 0.8.1-1ubuntu7
[06:36] <reka> ogge: Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7
[06:36] <reka> argh
[06:36] <CarlK> nemik, hub isn't an issue, and router isn't either, assuming it is just a router.  if NAT is involved, then you need to do port forwarding
[06:36] <nemik> nikkia - i guess i could use the fastest one there as the tunnel...yea i don't expect it to be pretty...hehe
[06:36] <dasa> on a Powerbook g4 ATI Rdeon?
[06:36] <reka> ogge: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BreezyGoals
[06:36] <reka> jepsti: yes
[06:36] <nikkia> nemik, the overhead in tunnelling IPv6 isn't bad, its a little less CPU intensive than doing IPv4 NAT on a machine
[06:37] <abs> hello all, i was here last night chatting about how to get maya working on ubuntu, i have finialy done it and am over the moon, hhehheehhehepppppy, am gona reinstall ubuntu as i am sure i have installed loads of crap that does not need to be there, UBUNTU IS GREAT AND I HOPE IT KEEPS ON GROWING. FANTASTIC LINUX LOVE IT.
[06:37] <nemik> soon i will have a lot of computers, each needing internet access. i already have a wireless router with 4 wire ports. 2 computers are connected wired-ly and about 3 wirelessly. they use the internet and bandwidth 'normally' (lots of browsing, ftp downloading, etc).
[06:37] <nemik> i will be getting many more smaller, low-end PC's with linux to use as servers that will hit a single PHP script i wrote once in a while. so between all of them they still won't be using anywhere near the amount of bandwidth as even one of the others.
[06:37] <nemik> but they need internet access. i was thinking to use the 4 port-wired/wireless router i have and hook up a 16-port hub to one of the router's LAN ports and attach it to a port in the hub and have 15 ports from the hub going into the computers and the wireless and other 3 LANs being used for other computers that use internet more. does it make sense?
[06:37] <nemik> sorry, it was just long
[06:37] <reka> abs: nice. :)
[06:38] <miketech> reka, hm i meant a graphical installer with X and gtk
[06:38] <LinuxJones> abs, good to hear you are enjoying your Ubuntu system :)
[06:38] <abs> reka, :)   love is back in the air, horaaaaa
[06:38] <reka> miketech: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/GraphicalInstaller
[06:39] <abs> LinuxJones, is fab, thanks to all the brought this on earth, ;)
[06:39] <LinuxJones> abs, :)
[06:39] <CarlK> nemik, good plan. here is what I would do for access: install openssh-server on all the boxes, setup the AP (what you called a  wireless router) to forward port 22 to one of your boxes (call it Master),
[06:40] <CarlK> nemik, then from the outside you can ssh to Master, then from master ssh to any local box
[06:40] <abs> LinuxJones, reka: will chat later no doubt, now its time to re-install this OS to get-eid of all my messing around, by by, :)_
[06:40] <reka> abs: later
[06:41] <xp__> does ubuntu work on a macintosh g5?
[06:41] <CarlK> nemik, if that extra step becomes too much trouble, then consider IPv6 (which I know will work, but have no clue how to setup)
[06:41] <Prottie> xp__: not really.
[06:42] <Prottie> xp__: no sound
[06:42] <Vinh> how do you stop pinging
[06:42] <xp__> but everything else works?
[06:42] <dabaR> ctrl+c
[06:42] <Vinh> i did ping host in terminal
[06:42] <ghjhjgfjfg> why use ubuntu if you have a g5? :D
[06:42] <Vinh> thx
[06:42] <dabaR> ya
[06:42] <xp__> cuz I love linux :)
[06:42] <dabaR> anything gets killed with ctrl+c
[06:42] <ghjhjgfjfg> yeah but os x is linux plus plus for me
[06:42] <gorilla_> ghjhjgfjfg, OS-X isn't that great something bug me but can't change it.
[06:43] <ghjhjgfjfg> why pay for a g5 if you won't use os x? you could'v bought a mini
[06:43] <nemik> CarlK -  thank you very much for the suggestions. i;m only wondering how i can tell all the boxes from one another in the hub? don't they all go to the same conection? sorry i'm bit of both a networking and linux noob
[06:43] <dabaR> in the hub?
[06:43] <xp__> nemik you tell each computer from another via their ip address
[06:43] <nikkia> nemik, yes, they do, thats why you have to ssh to the master machine first, or use ipv6
[06:43] <di2co> can anyone point me to a good place for getting this us robotics hardware modem to work in ubuntu?
[06:44] <di2co> i'm driving in circles
[06:44] <jessicaNZ> there doesn't seem to be any way to resize the partition in the ubuntu installation dialogue
[06:44] <xp__> omoore is that a g5 mac?
[06:44] <nemik> so each one will still get assigned an IP address? or will they share the one coming from the router's lan port?
[06:44] <omoore> no :( G4
[06:44] <nikkia> nemik, as it appears from the outside of the router, they all share one IP
[06:44] <jessicaNZ> are you sure it's possible?
[06:44] <reka> jessicaNZ: it's sort of hidden unfortunately.  what stage are you up to?
[06:44] <nikkia> nemik, internally, behind the router, they each have an IP address
[06:44] <Davey> omoore: could be worse, could be a macintel :P
[06:45] <xp__> nemik do you have an advanced router that can do ip masquerading and dhcp like a cisco wifi router?
[06:45] <ghjhjgfjfg> i do os x on my mac, and escape to linux on my work pc as fast as i can :)
[06:45] <nikkia> nemik, if you want to expose them each individually as seen from outside the router, you need to use IPv6 - buying IPv4 blocks isn't economically feasible anymore
[06:45] <jessicaNZ> reka: [!!]  Partition disks
[06:45] <omoore> lol.. we'll see, maybe macintel won't be so bad, but i do love the ppc architecture speed
[06:45] <ghjhjgfjfg> do anyone develop asp.net on os x or ubuntu? thats my main reason for being stuck with xp in the daytime
[06:45] <nikkia> nemik, i'm not going to lie to you though, IPv6 isn't easy to setup :)
[06:46] <reka> jessicaNZ: and you see a list with a partition with "NTFS" next to it right?
[06:46] <omoore> but then.. i'm a *nix whore
[06:46] <jessicaNZ> yes
[06:46] <reka> jessicaNZ: select manually edit partition table.
[06:46] <klaas_> ghjhjgfjfg: check out the mono project. http://www.mono-project.com
[06:46] <jessicaNZ> yes
[06:46] <reka> then highlight the ntfs partition and press enter
[06:46] <ghjhjgfjfg> i couldnt care less what kind of processor im using. as long as its mac os ox, and as long as other pc-geeks cant rape it with installing os x on their dells
[06:46] <ghjhjgfjfg> :)
[06:47] <nikkia> gh, someone will work out a way
[06:47] <ugo> apple is counting on it!
[06:47] <nikkia> gh, it'll probably require about 10 lines of code in qemu to fake the ID chip :P
[06:47] <ghjhjgfjfg> nikkia: sure but it wont run as smooth
[06:47] <ghjhjgfjfg> bad hardware support etc..
[06:47] <omoore> lol
[06:47] <ghjhjgfjfg> klaaas_ i installet the 'framework'. but it didnt found any editor softare with it?
[06:47] <nikkia> gh, i used a mac for years, don't lie to me about 'rock solid hardware' :P
[06:47] <Vinh> im testing out my fire via some online port checking sites.. just wondering how come firestarter wont show any traces of events of such things happening?
[06:48] <ugo> if i remember they have a non-compete since billg put in some funds in apple when they were down
[06:48] <nikkia> gh, let me say one word.... CMD640A
[06:48] <ghjhjgfjfg> nikkia... its same same hardware in many aspects.. but since its a limited amount of it it works fine togheter with os x :)
[06:48] <nikkia> gh, 2 of my G3s had CMD640As, great choice apple
[06:48] <omoore> pre OSX mac's OS was just as unreliable as win in my opinion... but i'm drifting off topic so i'll shutie
[06:48] <ghjhjgfjfg> hehe. conservative people :)
[06:49] <jessicaNZ> reka: there's nothing here about resizing
[06:49] <dabaR> its the apps stupid...
[06:49] <nikkia> if you put a second HDD in the system, it would randomly corrupt data on *any* drive
[06:49] <dabaR> hehe
[06:49] <ugo> easiest way into the market
[06:49] <reka> jessicaNZ: i know.  like i said, it's kind of hidden.
[06:49] <snigel1> nikkia, you but apple to use it out of the box. hasslefreee. that what its about
[06:49] <nemik> well i don't need to expose them really. that's fine to use internal addresses. as for the router, it is just a regular netgear 802.11b
[06:49] <reka> jessicaNZ: higlight the size field and press enter
[06:49] <rubicant> does anyone know where your data copied with your mouse gets saved ?
[06:49] <gorilla_> ugo, that assumes that they will be using a pc type architecture... Apple could use the same processor but different support chips around it.
[06:50] <nikkia> snigel1: the problem is, apple only support the machine 'out of the box'
[06:50] <nalioth> howdy
[06:50] <snigel1> nikkia, if you want to tweak your hardware, buy a pc :)
[06:50] <reka> lo
[06:50] <nikkia> snigel1: in the CMD640A case, since the macs were supplied with *1* HDD, apple disavowed any responsibility on adding a second drive and corrupting your data
[06:50] <ugo> true...
[06:50] <jessicaNZ> reka: the field that says ntfs?
[06:50] <dabaR> rubicant, ctrl+c?
[06:50] <nalioth> appletalk, yummmmm
[06:50] <ugo> whats killing me is you can install windows xp on the developer machines
[06:51] <rubicant> dabaR, yeah
[06:51] <dabaR> hey nalioth
[06:51] <xp__> nimick did you get it to work?
[06:51] <di2co> why wouldn't ubuntu automatically detect the hardware port for a us robotics hardware modem?
[06:51] <nalioth> ugo: you'll be able to install xp on the production machines, also (why?)
[06:51] <snigel1> ugo. yes. macs and xp should be isolated from each other.. hehe.
[06:51] <reka> jessicaNZ: [1]  higlight the NTFS partition and press enter [2]  highlight the size field and press enter [3]  enter a new size
[06:51] <reka> jessicaNZ: there may be intermediary steps
[06:51] <ugo> so...i get a mac and i can dualboot
[06:51] <snigel1> i hope they lock the hardware in some way
[06:51] <dabaR> rubicant: RAM?
[06:51] <zenlunatic> how do you make more virtual desktops in gnome?
[06:51] <reka> in between those
[06:52] <ugo> makes the mac a more compelling buy
[06:52] <zenlunatic> oh nm i found it
[06:52] <ugo> so i use the os a bit and i like it
[06:52] <nalioth> ugo: you can boot as many times as you like osx, xp, w2k, openbsd, different linux distros, etc
[06:52] <omoore> zenlunatic, right click on the virtual desktop browser, preferences, ..k
[06:52] <rubicant> dabaR, i dont know
[06:52] <dabaR> oh come on, zenlunatic that was too easy.
[06:52] <jessicaNZ> ok
[06:52] <zenlunatic> dabaR: heh
[06:52] <ugo> then the next os cycle i ditch xp and use mac os
[06:52] <jessicaNZ> I'm getting the blue screen of life
[06:53] <gorilla_> dabaR, yep... submit the "complaint" to the gnome developers :-)
[06:53] <nalioth> jessicaNZ: that doesnt sound good
[06:53] <dabaR> rubicant: lets vote. Who thinks when you ctrl+c something, that it goes into RAM?
[06:53] <dabaR> like copy.
[06:53] <zenlunatic> is there a better mp3 player than bmp?
[06:53] <jessicaNZ> well it said it might take a while, fingers crossed
[06:53] <reka> nalioth: why not?  it's the bso *life*.  sounds kinda neat to me
[06:53] <nalioth> zenlunatic: mpg123, rhythymbox, more
[06:53] <ugo> its not really that hard....all apple needs really is to place their os in the eyes of more customers
[06:54] <snigel1> i fear the day os x get 50% marketshare.. and 50% of the viruses
[06:54] <snigel1> :D
[06:54] <dabaR> the OS is retarded, I tell you,.
[06:54] <ugo> course ill be dualbooting with ubuntu
[06:54] <dabaR> wehre is the console?
[06:54] <nalioth> reka: ya want your life to come to a screeching halt, requiring a nap to restart?
[06:54] <dabaR> why so much things distracting me when I am trying to program?
[06:54] <gorilla_> dabaR, it's there :-)
[06:54] <nikkia> snigel1: *shrug* i remember the days when MacOS had near 90% of the viruses
[06:54] <dabaR> why so barely customizable?
[06:54] <reka> jessicaNZ: then [1]  highlight the newly created free space [2]  automatically partition
[06:54] <dabaR> maybe I just dunno how to use it...
[06:54] <nikkia> snigel1: back in the very early days, DOS had relatively few viruses compared to MacOS
[06:55] <jessicaNZ> I'm getting worried now, it's still just a blue screen
[06:55] <dabaR> but, I really dont like it much more tha windows, except for the terminal...
[06:55] <dabaR> jessicaNZ: where?
[06:55] <snigel1> nikkia, i believe you. os x in not to be compared with older mac os <10
[06:55] <nalioth> jessicaNZ: what program are you using?
[06:55] <jessicaNZ> on the laptop
[06:55] <reka> nalioth: by that logic the bsod would bring stuff back to life then
[06:55] <ugo> and thats another strong fact...the more it gets popular..the greater the number of attempts to crack its security
[06:55] <nalioth> reka: it sure does. after a restart
[06:55] <jessicaNZ> oh now it's back!
[06:55] <reka> dabaR, nalioth: she's installing ubuntu
[06:55] <nikkia> snigel1: i also remember losing all my report for class due to a virus on a mac :/
[06:56] <jessicaNZ> I have 30gb free space!
[06:56] <nalioth> reka: using the ubuntu parted?
[06:56] <nikkia> (at 3am in the morning, the day it was due)
[06:56] <reka> jessicaNZ: then [1]  highlight the newly created free space [2]  automatically partition
[06:56] <Prottie> os9 and earlier was unusable. horrible
[06:56] <ugo> but honestly i switched to ubuntu yesteray...and im sooo impressed
[06:56] <reka> nalioth: ubuntu installer, she's resizing her ntfs partition
[06:56] <dabaR> resizing using the installer?
[06:56] <nalioth> Prottie: i only went to mac when OSX came out (i knew the unix core would allow me freedom)
[06:57] <snigel1> nalioth: same here
[06:57] <nalioth> reka: okeediddleeo
[06:57] <reka> ugo: well that's good.  most people have some tweaking to do.
[06:57] <snigel1> dont bother me about os 9 :)
[06:57] <ugo> this is the next best thing since sliced bread....
[06:57] <jessicaNZ> can swap be logical?
[06:57] <dabaR> nalioth: can you get to a console?
[06:57] <dabaR> yes.
[06:57] <phanter> hello. Is there a program for ubuntu similar to cutepdf for windows (a pdf printer)
[06:57] <dabaR> you mean makes pdfs?
[06:57] <dabaR> most programs on linux have it built in.
[06:57] <nikkia> phanter: doesn't CUPS offer a 'print to PDF' by default?
[06:57] <snigel1> stilll.. i need to repair my MBR so it can boot both xp from hda and ubuntu from an usb-drive. heelp!
[06:57] <ugo> true...ive been using linux since RH5 so perhaps i didnt notice the tweaks
[06:57] <phanter> yes, to make pdfs
[06:58] <nemik> anyone know of any motherboards that come with more than 2 serial ports? i can't get my serial port expansion PCI card to work in ubuntu and need more
[06:58] <ugo> i had to make
[06:58] <gorilla_> phanter, openoffice will create pdfs :-)
[06:58] <dabaR> snigel, you have both installed on hda?
[06:58] <phanter> gorilla_, there is more in the world that i want to print then officce docs
[06:58] <dabaR> gorilla_: most programs will.
[06:58] <snigel1> dabar: xp is on hda, ubuntu is installed to a external usb drive
[06:58] <ugo> plus if anyones seruiosly needing fast tweaks http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[06:59] <dabaR> ok, well, why did you not install grub in the mbr?
[06:59] <snigel1> and grub fails to load
[06:59] <reka> ugo: please don't recommend ubguide
[06:59] <dabaR> that way it would ask you to choose, go do that.
[06:59] <ugo> ahh...hmm....right
[06:59] <nikkia> well, my CUPS config here has 'Print to PDF / Special (pseudo printer)'
[06:59] <Miks> i have a problem with my "nameserver", you see, i have to IP's in the DNS field, and then, all the websites load, but it takes a while until they get loaded....but if i delete one of the IP's in the DNS then the websites load immdiatly...but then, after some seconds, again i get the 2 ips and my websites take some while until they get loaded...how could i fix this?
[06:59] <snigel1> dunno. im not a hacker. i just did as the ubuntu installer suggested
[06:59] <nikkia> and i haven't changed my CUPS setup in any way
[06:59] <ugo> maybe it was a little too smooth for me
[06:59] <snigel1> but it changed something in hda since it loads grub even when the usb disk is unplugged
[07:00] <ugo> reka: whats wrong with ubguide
[07:00] <dabaR> snigel1: did you choose for grub to install on hda1? the mbr?
[07:00] <billytwowilly> snigel1, yah, it puts grub in the mbr space....
[07:00] <snigel1> dabaR. i think so
[07:00] <snigel1> since its there
[07:00] <nemik> Miks, assign different DNS's to the 2 IPs?
[07:00] <snigel1> but thers also a grub in the usvb drive
[07:00] <snigel1> seems like it splitted them in some kind of way
[07:00] <reka> ugo: i'll quote nalioth: "some of the stuff in there is just plan wrong".
[07:00] <reka> *plain rather
[07:01] <dabaR> go try reinstalling only grub, just skip all the steps uin the install like, escape, then just go to the grub install, and install it on the mbr.
[07:01] <Miks> nemik: i have 2 IP's ...when i delete one of them, the websites load immediatly....and then again after some seconds i get the 2 ips again and the websites again take some while until they load
[07:01] <reka> ugo: and it's lack of explanations, the inclusion of backports in their sample sources.list...
[07:01] <bethor> hi, I have FUBARed my symlinks to the kernel includes. Could someone please paste these (kernel2.6) thanks. :-)
[07:01] <snigel1> dabaR: ill try. hang on ;)
[07:01] <dabaR> miks, where is this, in the networking under sys>admin?
[07:01] <ugo> right...
[07:01] <dabaR> snigel1: in fact, that is the only advice I have on the topic.
[07:01] <swarm> I had a problem of clock skew (clock running at twice its speed) and I have read that a trick to solve it is to use no_timer_check in boot params with upgraded kernel 2.6.12. So I have got such kernel using breezy as apt source. I have upgraded gcc to 4.0 in the while. After such upgrade clock skew problem disappeared and I changed again /etc/apt/sources.list to use hoary repositories. Could I have any problem with apt in such situation?
[07:01] <snigel1> ok
[07:02] <snigel1> thanks
[07:02] <gorilla_> night all :-)
[07:02] <jessicaNZ> how do I make a swap partition? do I call it /swap or swap?
[07:02] <reka> jessicaNZ: just auto-partition
[07:02] <ugo> reka: right...
[07:02] <reka> the free space
[07:02] <lsuactiafner> you dont call it anything
[07:02] <dabaR> if you did not aptitude upgrade, not really.
[07:02] <bethor> jessicaNZ, mkswap is your friend
[07:02] <lsuactiafner>  /dev/hda1        swap             swap        defaults         0   0
[07:02] <dabaR> bye gorilla_ .
[07:02] <lsuactiafner> swapon is your friend also
[07:03] <Miks> dabaR : irs in Network settings, in the "DNS servers"....or in the /etc/resolv.config
[07:03] <swarm> dabaR,  I didn't apt upgrade (second time, first time I did and hoary died and breezy didn't born).
[07:03] <reka> bethor: going to be tough to do that...she's still in the install process :)
[07:03] <dabaR> warm, nice...good job. you should be fine, altho, things are possibly gonna go wrong, but you did it proper/.
[07:03] <bethor> reka, was just trying to help ;-)
[07:04] <dabaR> miks, try putting a fake ip.
[07:04] <reka> bethor: np.  you missed the start of her questioning.
[07:04] <nikkia> lsuactiafner: using LABEL is your friend too :P
[07:04] <Miks> mm ok
[07:05] <flodine> a guys when try to plat mplayer it stop why
[07:05] <flodine> does mplayer need files to run
[07:05] <dabaR> flodine: does it freeze and not move?
[07:06] <flodine> yes
[07:06] <lsuactiafner> lol
[07:06] <flodine> dabaR what do i do
[07:07] <dabaR> right click on it before you click play, and select properties, then go audio(or plugins, cant ermember) select esd, and close out, then restart. That actually may work.
[07:07] <maxy_noob> Hi guys!
[07:07] <dabaR> hey maxy_noob
[07:07] <dabaR> still here?
[07:07] <maxy_noob> :-)
[07:07] <dabaR> good!
[07:07] <maxy_noob> I have a question
[07:08] <jessicaNZ> hmmm when I make the ntfs partition bootable the / partition becomes unbootable.  Can't I make them both bootable?
[07:08] <Choubaka> hmm.
[07:08] <maxy_noob> when I try to load a boot cd grub interfers and loads the kernel. How do I switch it off?
[07:08] <dabaR> no, make only the first partition of the HD bootable.
[07:08] <nalioth> jessicaNZ: no need, grup/lilo/yaboot will take care of it
[07:08] <dabaR> (if you want to be able to boot xp.
[07:09] <dabaR> put xp on the first partition.
[07:09] <jessicaNZ> so I should keep the xp bootable and not worry about linux?
[07:09] <maxy_noob> Is there a way I can stop GRUB from interfering while I'm loading a boot CD?
[07:09] <nalioth> jessicaNZ: linux boot loader will take care of linux
[07:09] <dabaR> maxy_noob: what? you are trying to boot off a cd, and it never gets to there cause grub boots?
[07:09] <maxy_noob> dabaR, ya!
[07:09] <nalioth> maxy_noob: isnt that the point of a boot cd?
[07:09] <maxy_noob> nalioth, one would've thought, yes.
[07:09] <reka> jessicaNZ: iirc, you put both the smiley face and the thunderbolt on the / partition
[07:09] <nalioth> maxy_noob: check your bios
[07:10] <nalioth> maxy_noob: change the boot order
[07:10] <maxy_noob> I did
[07:10] <maxy_noob> CD-ROM
[07:10] <maxy_noob> disabled the others
[07:10] <maxy_noob> it's weird
[07:10] <nalioth> maxy_noob: and it's still bootin from HD?
[07:10] <dabaR> jessicaNZ: check this out. the windows boot loader is in the mbr, on the first partition. You are about to install grub, the linux boot loader, on top of the mbr. Then once you boot, grub will start, and ask you which OS you want to boot into.
[07:10] <zyth> mooornin
[07:10] <samuel> debconf just does "debconf packagename" correct?
[07:10] <maxy_noob> well, from grub
[07:10] <maxy_noob> and then it loads linux
[07:11] <maxy_noob> I can't figure it out
[07:11] <snigel1> dabaR: i reinstalled the whole ubuntu. and choosed hd0 for grub. but stll error 21... any suggestions?
[07:11] <nalioth> dabaR: there is no windows 'boot loader' theres a POS living on the / of the xp partition that the machine defaults to when it sees and empty mbr
[07:11] <maxy_noob> is there a way I can simple delete all contents off the hd?
[07:11] <maxy_noob> maybe there's a boot sector where grub lies dormant.
[07:11] <jessicaNZ> so does the thunderbolt need to be on the / partition?
[07:11] <nalioth> maxy_noob: add a line to your grub "boot from cd"
[07:12] <nalioth> maxy_noob: simple way?
[07:12] <maxy_noob> how do I do that (note maxy_noob)
[07:12] <nalioth> maxy_noob: get a hammer
[07:12] <maxy_noob> lol
[07:12] <dabaR> maxy_noob: while you are booting, it dont ask you like press any key to load from CD. does it?
[07:12] <nalioth> maxy_noob: there are many ways
[07:12] <maxy_noob> no
[07:12] <nemik> anyone tried adding more serial ports to their machine via a PCI card? i have this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5205997334&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1 but ubuntu won't recognize ttys2/3/4/5
[07:12] <nalioth> maxy_noob: knoppix/ubuntu livecd(s) can do it for you
[07:12] <jf6> salut!!
[07:13] <dabaR> salut!
[07:13] <jf6> comment faiton pour debloquer un contact sous Gaim?
[07:13] <maxy_noob> what happens is I get: Loading from Boot CD ....
[07:13] <maxy_noob> and then Grub kicks in
[07:13] <dabaR> !ubuntu-fr
[07:13] <ubotu> dabaR: I give up, what is it?
[07:13] <nalioth> maxy_noob: i'd add a line to your grub to point to booting from cd
[07:13] <dabaR> !fr
[07:13] <ubotu> fr is, like, http://fr.ubuntuguide.org/ "Merci" to fr.ubuntuguide.org
[07:13] <dabaR> bah
[07:13] <maxy_noob> are there directions which I can follow?
[07:13] <nalioth> jf6: en la #ubuntu-fr, si'l vous plait
[07:13] <jf6> sorry
[07:14] <jf6> how to deblok a contact?
[07:14] <dabaR> your apologies mean nothing, we are now eternal enemies!
[07:14] <unome> maxy_noob: check your bios boot section, make sure boot from cd is the first line
[07:14] <nalioth> maxy_noob: ask google "grub for dummies" seriously
[07:14] <dabaR> its a PC, maxy_noob right?
[07:14] <SliderMan> someone knows how can i do that if i use irc://ip:port/channel its will connect on X-Chat?
[07:14] <maxy_noob> yes
[07:14] <jf6> dabar what?
[07:14] <Seveas> jf6, in gaim you mean?
[07:15] <nikkia> gah, curse you MS, you will rue this day!!!!
[07:15] <jf6> yes in gaim
[07:15] <snigel1> dabaR and others, should i skip grub and try lilo? do it do the same thing?
[07:15] <Seveas> jf6, in gain it is menu tools->privacy
[07:15] <jf6> Seveas ok thx
[07:15] <dabaR> search for grub boot cd.
[07:15] <nikkia> windows has decided to completely stop trying to remember the last directory the common file controls were in :(
[07:15] <dabaR> nol its different.
[07:15] <SliderMan> someone?
[07:15] <nalioth> snigel1: yes same operation, different vehicle
[07:15] <maxy_noob> dabaR, can you walk me through it man?
[07:16] <nalioth> SliderMan: try it and see
[07:16] <nalioth> SliderMan: you won't hurt anything
[07:16] <Mobius> hello everyone =)
[07:16] <nalioth> maxy_noob: there are several howtos, and walkthrus re grub
[07:16] <maxy_noob> or nalioth
[07:16] <SliderMan> irc is isent a registered protocol!
[07:17] <nalioth> maxy_noob: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/grub
[07:17] <nalioth> maxy_noob: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto
[07:17] <Mobius> hello again nalioth
[07:17] <SliderMan> someone?!?
[07:17] <nalioth> mornin, Mobius
[07:17] <nalioth> maxy_noob: see those 2 URLs
[07:17] <maxy_noob> thanks nalioth; i'll have a look
[07:17] <jf6> where is privacy?
[07:17] <reka> SliderMan: xchat->serverlist
[07:17] <jf6> in Gaim
[07:18] <jf6> (i hav it in french so....)
[07:18] <Seveas> nalioth, why did the forum idiots separate their stuff from the rest of the wiki/?
[07:18] <nalioth> Seveas: i have no idea, i wasnt in on it
[07:18] <zyth> SliderMan, why are you freaking out?
[07:18] <SliderMan> its the servers list
[07:18] <Mobius> would you guys suggest win2K for dual booting?
[07:18] <Uskyrt> hi all!
[07:18] <SliderMan> freaking?
[07:18] <zyth> SliderMan, ---> SliderMan someone?!?
[07:19] <nalioth> Mobius: if you have to run windoze, YES
[07:19] <maxy_noob> Not much there for me nalioth
[07:19] <Mobius> nalioth: don't really want to but i might have to... and I dont want XP SP2 ..
[07:19] <nalioth> SliderMan: ask your question "how do i register a protocol in my system?"
[07:20] <nalioth> Mobius: win2k is the best windows to use (in my opinion)
[07:20] <maxy_noob> what's the command to get the grub file up
[07:20] <nalioth> Mobius: it doesnt have near the security issues of its younger sibling
[07:20] <maxy_noob> sudo gedit ...?
[07:20] <Mobius> nalioth: it also feels less bloated then the rest
[07:20] <nalioth> maxy_noob: if you're not seeing anythinhg there, ask your uncle google (i do it all the time)
[07:20] <reka> maxy_noob: yes, if that's the editor you want to user
[07:21] <nalioth> Mobius: it's the only windoze i'll install on clients puters
[07:21] <Mobius> heh
[07:21] <zyth> SliderMan, you need to set your network.protocol-handler.app.irc in firefox, fyi
[07:21] <Uskyrt> anybody? I've just installed ubuntu on a toshipa 4200 but it freezes as soon as I login
[07:21] <Uskyrt> any ideas?
[07:21] <nalioth> Uskyrt: can you change to a different login terminal?
[07:21] <nalioth> Uskyrt: <ctrl><alt><f3>
[07:21] <Uskyrt> yes I can use the terminal
[07:21] <JavaOnLinux> hi, does anyone here know a web site that contains all GTK+ or Gnome software? I've been there before once but didn't bookmark it?
[07:22] <zyth> Uskyrt, have you tried ctrl+alt+backspace to kill the server and restart it?
[07:22] <zyth> JavaOnLinux, gnome-apps.org?
[07:22] <nalioth> Uskyrt: sounds like your video drivers are not cooperating
[07:22] <Mobius> or gnomefiles.org
[07:22] <JanC_> gnomefiles probably
[07:23] <Uskyrt> I'll give it a look
[07:23] <JavaOnLinux> zyth, it's gnomefiles.org
[07:23] <maxy_noob> I do: sudo gedit /home/boot/grub/menu.1st and an empty window opens
[07:23] <Uskyrt> where do I find some error log?
[07:23] <JavaOnLinux> zyth, thanks anyway, let me see what's on gnome-apps.org
[07:23] <Uskyrt> just to check if it's so
[07:23] <ushooz> JavaOnLinux, www.gnomefiles.org
[07:23] <reka> maxy_noob: replace the 1 with a small L
[07:23] <JavaOnLinux> ushooz, yes, thanks
[07:23] <maxy_noob> ah!
[07:23] <nalioth> maxy_noob: its /boot/grub/blah blah
[07:23] <maxy_noob> thanks reka
[07:23] <reka> and it's /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:23] <SliderMan> how can i do that? network.protocol-handler.app.irc?
[07:24] <maxy_noob> great
[07:24] <maxy_noob> thanks
[07:24] <maxy_noob> it worked
[07:24] <nalioth> SliderMan: put 'about:config' in your address bar and have a search for that term
[07:24] <maxy_noob> now what command?
[07:24] <maxy_noob> # ...
[07:24] <nalioth> maxy_noob: this is where askin uncle google comes in
[07:25] <nalioth> maxy_noob: such as "add cd-rom grub menu"
[07:25] <nalioth> maxy_noob: or just "cd-rom grub menu"
[07:25] <maxy_noob> grub menu?
[07:25] <X7C> does anyone know how to change the defalt activation key for expocity?
[07:26] <Mobius> anyone have any suggestions /warnings about wireless router brands?
[07:26] <SliderMan> i get some files in thre
[07:26] <SliderMan> i need to put new?
[07:26] <aethera_> Mobius: I like planet
[07:26] <nalioth> Mobius: check the linux hardware compatability list
[07:26] <jasmuz> be back later
[07:26] <djp> would it be worth my while to have ubuntu running alongside freedos in a dual-boot system? my reason for wanting freedos is in order to use certain emulators that do not work under linux
[07:27] <nalioth> SliderMan: it's always goog NOT to overwrite existing settings
[07:27] <nalioth> SliderMan: so make a new one to do what you want
[07:27] <WebMaven> is the ubuntu-calendar package no longer updated?
[07:27] <maxy_noob> nalioth, ok I'll try the second.
[07:27] <SliderMan> i dont know what to put on it
[07:27] <nalioth> djp: if you use the emus often, sure
[07:27] <SliderMan> some script i guees
[07:27] <nalioth> SliderMan: you were offered a suggestion (or two) earlier
[07:28] <nalioth> SliderMan: scroll up and see
[07:28] <Mobius> any gripes about linksys or netgear?
[07:28] <snigel1> Lilo 22.6.1 Loading Linux . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . .. . . .. (dots continues)... is this fucked up or should i wait for the dots to fill my screen? :D
[07:28] <SliderMan> i cant understand see what?
[07:28] <zyth> where can I add stuff like trash icons, my computer, etc to my GNOME desktop?
[07:28] <snigel1> bah.... it got kernel panic
[07:28] <nalioth> SliderMan: someone answered you earlier
[07:28] <snigel1> seems tricky with this usb driver
[07:29] <nalioth> zyth: were you the one who suggested to sliderman?
[07:29] <nalioth> Mobius: it's all about the chipsets
[07:29] <ogge> strange, just find a little 9mbyte partition in the defragtool (win2k)
[07:29] <zyth> nalioth, what, about the protocol handler? yeah
[07:29] <Mobius> zyth : http://ubuntuguide.org/#showdesktopicons
[07:29] <zyth> Mobius, thanks
[07:29] <Mobius> zyth : np =)
[07:29] <ogge> guess its the toshiba systemrecoverypartition.
[07:29] <nalioth> zyth: he doesnt know how to scroll, can you send it again?
[07:29] <SliderMan> on mozila i will find what i want?
[07:30] <jessicaNZ> help it's asking me to choose a kernel!
[07:30] <nalioth> jessicaNZ: really?
[07:30] <nalioth> jessicaNZ: what are the choices?
[07:30] <jessicaNZ> linux-386 linux-image-386 or linux-image-2.6.10.5-386
[07:30] <snigel1> when its about to boot ubuntu from the usb drive, it panics when the startup "initializing usb mass storage driver"
[07:31] <nalioth> any ideas for jessicaNZ ?
[07:31] <reka> jessicaNZ: that's grub iirc :)
[07:31] <X7C> i chose linux-386 o thursday but it installed the same one i had which was the last one
[07:31] <nalioth> jessicaNZ: i run a macintosh, i have no clue
[07:31] <jessicaNZ> I've installed ubuntu a few times and it's never asked me before
[07:31] <X7C> i think it's a buggy option thing
[07:31] <X7C> are you installing on expert install?
[07:31] <zyth> SliderMan, try http://www.neilturner.me.uk/2004/Sep/12/external_protocol_whitelisting.html
[07:32] <zyth> SliderMan, it explains how to do it
[07:32] <jessicaNZ> so which one should I choose?
[07:32] <reka> jessicaNZ: where do you get this?
[07:32] <X7C> JessicaNZ: are you installing on expert install?
[07:32] <djp> nalioth: is it possible to install freedos after ubuntu? i have ubuntu installed at present on one hard drive with my /home directory on another drive. could i move my /home directory across to the hard drive with the ubunut system files on it and then use the other drive for freedos or am i too late having installed my linux system first?
[07:32] <jessicaNZ> during install the base system
[07:32] <jessicaNZ> no
[07:32] <WebMaven> Does anyone know why the ubuntu-calendar package has not been updated? I've still got the April desktop background.
[07:33] <thoreauputic> jessicaNZ: the last one is safe :)
[07:33] <SliderMan> thanks!!!
[07:33] <nalioth> djp: yes, it is. you'll need to augment your grub/lilo menu to point to it, tho
[07:33] <thoreauputic> jessicaNZ: all of them will install a defualt i386 kernel I'd say
[07:33] <thoreauputic> *default
[07:33] <Sir_Blizzardz> hi
[07:33] <jessicaNZ> well I can always reinstall
[07:34] <nalioth> djp: you don't need to switch drives, freedos don't take up much room
[07:34] <Sir_Blizzardz> can someone help me please, installing a deb package?
[07:34] <reka> WebMaven: looks like they've dropped development on it
[07:34] <X7C> jessicaNZ well I can always reinstall << i've chosen two of the in differents installs and they install gthe same kernel
[07:34] <reka> Sir_Blizzardz: what are you installing?
[07:34] <Sir_Blizzardz> i want to install opera
[07:34] <thoreauputic> jessicaNZ: you won't need to: but if you want to  change kernels later you can
[07:34] <WebMaven> development? it's an image.
[07:34] <nalioth> WebMaven: someone has to take the pix, pkg the image, etc
[07:35] <WebMaven> Hmm.
[07:35] <nalioth> WebMaven: that person is the 'maintainer' or 'developer'
[07:35] <WebMaven> Hmm.
[07:35] <WebMaven> where is the info that it was dropped?
[07:36] <nalioth> WebMaven: reka was just surmising
[07:36] <reka> WebMaven: yep, i've noticed other people ask as well.  dunno really
[07:36] <nalioth> WebMaven: https://wiki.ubuntu.com will answer your questions (if you have a photographic/artistic bent, you might could pick it up (if its down))
[07:37] <reka> Sir_Blizzardz: don't they provide it in tar.gz format?
[07:37] <hjbleier> when i try to install a *.deb file using dpkg it says i need to be superuser, but i installed off of the dvd-live 5.04 disc and it never asked for a root passwd during the installation... how can i fix this?
[07:37] <rronkiv> ubuntu is god!
[07:37] <reka> ah hang on.
[07:38] <reka> hjbleier: what are trying to install?
[07:38] <nalioth> hjbleier: different instance
[07:38] <hjbleier> i was trying varicad
[07:38] <nalioth> hjbleier: now you must install using 'sudo'
[07:38] <djp> nalioth: ok thanks. so you would advise leaving my /home directory on a seperate hard drive right? i gathered that was a good solution when i installed ubuntu, as it means i can leave my personal info and downloads etc intact. also how would i go about partitioning the drive and installing frredos? do you know of any simple guides? i have tried googling but have only come across tutorials on installing windows alongside linux an
[07:38] <djp> d vice versa.
[07:38] <nalioth> hjbleier: is the program not in the repositorys?
[07:38] <hjbleier> nalioth: how do i go about that?
[07:39] <newbie> hi everybody... i have a VERY simple question... following the ubuntu guide instructutions i mounted my windowsxp ntfs drive on my ubuntu.  but i want to create a shortcut for it at my desktop... how can i do it?
[07:39] <nalioth> djp: a seperate /home partition/HD is a good insurance choice
[07:39] <nalioth> hjbleier: start synaptic and search
[07:39] <solus_> um, how does one go about installing drivers for an SB audigy 1 card?
[07:39] <snigel1> when its about to boot ubuntu from the usb drive, it panics when the startup "initializing usb mass storage driver"
[07:40] <nalioth> djp: if your HD with ubuntu isnt full up, i believe that parted will painlessly resize a partition
[07:40] <nalioth> djp: check on the 'painless resize' part b4 you start, tho
[07:41] <solus_> how does one go about installing drivers for an SB audigy 1 card?
[07:41] <nalioth> djp: i only say that, because i'm not that familiar with actual use of qtparted
[07:41] <djp> nalioth: not full at all. do you think i should put freedos on the hard drive with ubuntu system files then?
[07:41] <nalioths_dog> solus_: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[07:41] <ogge> anyone know a good tool to defrag a win2k ntfs disk?
[07:41] <nitroXL> hello I have one question ... does anyone uses music Dj program mixxx .. it worked for me in MEPIS but not in Ubuntu .. it said that have problems with Xmu library .. does anyone have a cluse what could be missing ?
[07:41] <nalioth> djp: unless you have more ROMS than will fit....lol
[07:42] <djp> nalioth: ;)
[07:42] <nalioth> ogge: use windows defrag
[07:42] <reka> ogge: why not just use win2k's?
[07:42] <ogge> yep. thats the strange thing. win2ks defrag only finds a 9 mbyte partition.
[07:42] <nalioth> ogge: wow
[07:43] <ogge> i guess its toshibas systemrecoverpartition.
[07:43] <djp> nalioth: ok, thnaks. so parted and use it to partion the drive with my system files. i will google for some advice on doing that. thanks once again.
[07:43] <ogge> what can I do?
[07:43] <nalioth> djp: qtparted is a gui frontend for parted. parted is sposed to resize partitions w/o data loss
[07:43] <newbie> hi everybody... i have a VERY simple question... following the ubuntu guide instructutions i mounted my windowsxp ntfs drive on my ubuntu.  but i want to create a shortcut for it at my desktop... how can i do it?
[07:43] <netsniper> Anyone know how to change the default FESTIVAL voice???
[07:44] <nalioth> newbie: where is it mounted in your ubuntu?
[07:44] <netsniper> I want my text2speech engine to sound more human!
[07:44] <nikkia> netsniper: employ someone to read the screen contents :P
[07:44] <Seveas> newbie, ln -s /path/to/windows/drive ~/Desktop/windows_drive
[07:46] <zenlunatic> how do i change my default web browser?
[07:46] <reka> zenlunatic: sys->prefs->preferredapps
[07:46] <nalioth> zenlunatic: system > prefs > preferred apps
[07:47] <newbie> hi
[07:47] <Seveas> hi
[07:47] <anarky99> lo
[07:47] <anarky99> Seveas: :_)
[07:48] <Seveas> anarky99, who has hit your nose? :)
[07:48] <newbie> well my windows is under /media folder
[07:48] <anarky99> eh
[07:48] <anarky99> its cold
[07:48] <anarky99> :)
[07:48] <Davey> Howdy, does anyone know how and if its wise to install libc6 from breezy in hoary?
[07:48] <anarky99> fark its like 15degrees
[07:48] <Seveas> cold?? can we trade places, it's f*n 35 degrees centigrade...
[07:48] <Davey> I just upgraded xchat and it needs it :/
[07:49] <Davey> Seveas: thats all? thats cool here :D
[07:49] <newbie> how can i create a shortcut for my windows folder at my desktop?
[07:49] <Seveas> Davey, it is NOT wise
[07:49] <Seveas> newbie, ln -s /path/to/windows/drive ~/Desktop/windows_drive
[07:49] <Davey> bah :/
[07:49] <nalioth> Seveas: quit whining its 91f here
[07:50] <Seveas> nalioth, pfff, you must be melting :)
[07:50] <nalioth> newbie: seveas just told you
[07:50] <Davey> OK, how to install a source deb? :)
[07:50] <nalioth> Seveas: nah, 91f is a cool day
[07:50] <musashi> I need help on gnome-ppp
[07:50] <Vjaz> Anyone familiar with the Freefont project or at least the fonts? http://www.nongnu.org/freefont/
[07:51] <nalioth> Seveas: here in Houston, it'll get over 110f later on
[07:51] <Seveas> dang...
[07:51] <Vjaz> My problem with them is that they look bad in small font sizes.
[07:51] <Seveas> Vjaz, then file a complaint at the creator :)
[07:52] <nalioth> Vjaz: you know you can use ANY truetype font, right?
[07:52] <Vjaz> nalioth, Yes I know that, but Freefont probably has the best Unicode support.
[07:52] <Vjaz> Seveas, Yeah, I know. What I was thinking is if everyone else has this problem too.
[07:53] <Vjaz> Seveas, they're installed by default on Ubuntu.
[07:53] <Seveas> Vjaz, i'll check
[07:53] <Seveas> ah
[07:53] <Seveas> name an example that looks bad please :)
[07:53] <musashi> Anyone have problems with gnome-ppp?
[07:53] <anarky99> Seveas:
[07:53] <Vjaz> Seveas, set the font size to 10 with FreeMono. On my system it has very low contrast.
[07:53] <ttyS0> musashi, yeah :)
[07:54] <newbie> nalioth and seveas : i tried     ln -s /media/windows ~/Desktop/windows_drive
[07:54] <Seveas> Vjaz, ack
[07:54] <Vjaz> Seveas, or 12 or some font size that you would use on a terminal or IRC for example
[07:54] <Davey> fuck it ::compiles x-chat 2.4.4 from source::
[07:54] <newbie> but system says
[07:54] <Vjaz> Seveas, you see it too?
[07:54] <newbie> ln: `/home/ernesto/Desktop/windows_drive/windows': cannot overwrite directory
[07:54] <Vjaz> Seveas, you can also try FreeSans. it's not as bad, but it looks very fuzzy to me
[07:55] <Seveas> Vjaz, indeed, they are quite low contrast
[07:55] <Vjaz> Seveas, you wouldn't happen to know a better font with wide Unicode support? :-\
[07:56] <Vjaz> in the meantime I'll mail the author
[07:56] <Seveas> newbie, what was the command that gave that error?
[07:56] <anarky99> hmmm
[07:56] <newbie> nalioth and seveas : i tried     ln -s /media/windows ~/Desktop/windows_drive
[07:56] <Seveas> Vjaz, no idea, usually I don't care too much about it
[07:56] <dougsk> newbie, you might need to use sudo as you mounted it root in ubuntu guide iirc.
[07:56] <nalioth> newbie: ok and the result?
[07:57] <Seveas> dougsk, neh, not for ln -s
[07:57] <musashi> ttyS0, it don't works, I have glade errors on terminal
[07:57] <anarky99> uhm
[07:57] <anarky99> Seveas: you got lincity installed?
[07:57] <newbie> yes i used sudo to mount my windows drive
[07:57] <nalioth> newbie: ok, change your ~/Desktop/windows to something like /win_C or whatever
[07:57] <Seveas> newbie, the error you gave can *NOT* be de result of that command...
[07:57] <Seveas> anarky99, nope..
[07:57] <anarky99> I can not start it
[07:57] <ttyS0> munki, oh. the only error i have is Modem Initialization Error. Just use wvdial :)
[07:57] <rronkiv> can anyone help me in private on how to install my Video Card's Drivers? Please private message me if so!
[07:58] <ttyS0> not munki. musashi
[07:58] <ttyS0> (stupid TAB)
[07:58] <reka> rronkiv: ati or nvidia?
[07:58] <Seveas> lol ttyS0 :)
[07:58] <ttyS0> :)
[07:58] <Seveas> rronkiv: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:58] <nalioth> newbie: try something like this: ln -s /media/windows ~/Desktop/win_c
[07:58] <newbie> ok
[07:59] <newbie> ok nalioth
[07:59] <newbie> it's on my desktop now
[07:59] <rronkiv> nvidia
[07:59] <newbie> THANKS to nalioth, seveas and dougsk
[07:59] <Seveas> rronkiv, then read that wikipage :)
[08:00] <musashi> ttyS0, ok...
[08:00] <musashi> :(
[08:01] <chromate> hi, i'm trying to run an application in WINE, and i get this error upon start:  err:d3d:IDirect3D8Impl_CreateDevice Error in setting current context (context 0x780f4030 drawable 0)!
[08:01] <chromate> fixme:d3d_caps:IDirect3D8Impl_FillGLCaps found GL_VERSION ((null))->(0x0000000000009)
[08:01] <Seveas> chromate, try #wine
[08:02] <dougsk> Seveas, ooh your right, so long as the umask bit is set in the manual mount.
[08:02] <chromate> Seveas: sorry, i know its slightly off topic. the wine channel doesn't exist
[08:02] <thoreauputic> chromate: #winehq
[08:02] <Seveas> chromate, #winehq
[08:02] <Seveas> sorry :)
[08:02] <chromate> ah, thanks!
[08:03] <Seveas> dougsk, that's why I created a script to do that mounting/fstab adding :)
[08:03] <glDaher> hi
[08:04] <glDaher> I've installed windows after installing ubuntu, but when windows try to reboot to continue install
[08:04] <glDaher> ubuntu loader cannot see windows
[08:04] <glDaher> grub
[08:04] <reka> glDaher: need to reinstall grub to the mbr
[08:05] <glDaher> no, grub works fine, but windows is not listed
[08:06] <reka> glDaher: then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add windows as a boot option
[08:07] <remyforbes777> how hard is it to learn c++
[08:07] <glDaher> raka: I was looking in /etc ... so thx :)
[08:07] <penguin42> rem_: Not too bad if you take it slowly
[08:08] <reka> glDaher: np.  seems like you know what to do then.
[08:08] <penguin42> remyforbes777: What other languages do you know?
[08:08] <remyforbes777> i really dont have any programming experience
[08:08] <remyforbes777> none
[08:08] <glDaher> reka, yep :)
[08:08] <remyforbes777> lol
[08:08] <remyforbes777> is there a prerequisite language
[08:08] <newbie> thanks again... the shortcut is working fine ! bye!
[08:08] <battlecat> hi how can you install a package from a cd?
[08:09] <reka> remyforbes777: i
[08:09] <reka> whoops
[08:09] <remyforbes777> reka: lol
[08:09] <reka> remyforbes777: i started with c and then move to c++
[08:09] <remyforbes777> reka: are you self taught
[08:10] <reka> remyforbes777: but as long as you have good resources, it shouldn't be too hard.
[08:10] <reka> remyforbes777: no, i'm undergoing a comp sci course
[08:10] <anarky99> I have been playing with python
[08:10] <anarky99> today
[08:10] <anarky99> nice language
[08:10] <remyforbes777> reka: oh, how hard do you think it would be to self teach yourself c++
[08:10] <anarky99> crappy syntax
[08:10] <nalioth> battlecat: what kind of file?
[08:11] <remyforbes777> anarky99: do you have any previous programming experience
[08:11] <penguin42> remyforbes777: As your first programming language I'd say pretty tough
[08:11] <ttyS0> anarky99, yeah...python is strange :)
[08:11] <anarky99> remyforbes777: c c++ php c# vb.net
[08:11] <reka> remyforbes777: not devastating...it's a popular language
[08:11] <Xenguy> remyforbes777: yeah, I was going to mention python as a decent starter language
[08:11] <anarky99> and asp stuff
[08:11] <anarky99> hell no
[08:11] <lsuactiafner> does this work in linux..
[08:11] <lsuactiafner> WN-WL-138GR 275ASUS 54Mbps 802.11g PCI Cardbus Adaptor - Marvell
[08:11] <lsuactiafner> http://www.asus.com/products/communication/wireless/wl-138g/overview.htm
[08:11] <anarky99> decent language to start with is erm c
[08:11] <lsuactiafner> ?
[08:11] <reka> remyforbes777: personally i still love c the best
[08:12] <remyforbes777> Xenguy: cool, i might do that , start with python
[08:12] <remyforbes777> anarky99: erm c?
[08:12] <anarky99> C is fairly easy
[08:12] <anarky99> go for java if you are newbie
[08:12] <Xenguy> remyforbes777: I'm not a big-time programmer BTW; just bits and pieces of scripting, so take my advice with a grain of salt ;-)
[08:12] <gveri1> Hey!
[08:13] <gveri1> Is there a GUI in Ubuntu for X configuration (or just some configuration tool)?
[08:13] <remyforbes777> Xenguy: ok, i just have a c++ book and its a Sams 24 hr book, and just wondering if I could learn from that
[08:13] <gveri1> I tried editing xorg.conf but so far I am not getting any luck ::(
[08:13] <anarky99> gveri1: whats wrong
[08:14] <Xenguy> remyforbes777: you can learn whatever you want to :-)  But you perhaps want to ask, where would you use it?  For example, where I work it is a Java shop, so it would make sense for me to start there
[08:14] <sorush20> Here is an easy (very difficult depends) question? How do you write a file to a floppy disk using one of those things, that is dum, beautiful, and cheap (not a hore) oh no linux?
[08:14] <jo> hello
[08:14] <Miks> how can i set my computer to use only 1 DNS entry IP instead of 2, because when i use 2 it takes longer for it to load the websites...and if i delete any of those 2 IP's they get overwrited and appear again by themselves
[08:14] <gveri1> anarky99: Refresh rate is stuck at 60
[08:14] <reka> sorush20: come again?
[08:15] <jo> i yest instaled urbunto but were andt how to finfd kernel source
[08:15] <anarky99> eh
[08:15] <reka> gveri1: common problem
[08:15] <reka> !fixres
[08:15] <ubotu> fixres is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:15] <jo> must instal logitech webcam driver
[08:15] <sorush20> reka: how do I write a file to a floppy in Ubuntu, why can't I just drag and drop?
[08:15] <jbroome> floppy needs to be mounted first
[08:16] <lok> sorush20, with nautilus you can
[08:16] <anarky99> lawl
[08:16] <anarky99> set automout
[08:16] <anarky99> :)
[08:16] <sorush20> set automount...
[08:16] <sorush20> how,
[08:16] <jo> how to update ubuntu
[08:16] <sorush20> ?
[08:16] <lok> jbroome, ubuntu use pmount to do all needed
[08:16] <anarky99> jo: apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:16] <anarky99> edit the sources list
[08:16] <anarky99> :)
[08:16] <lok> sorush20, there is an automount by gnome
[08:16] <reka> jo: what kernel version do you have?
[08:17] <sorush20> where do I find it..?
[08:17] <lok> ?
[08:17] <nalioth> anarky99: he needs the kernel-source to build from
[08:17] <jo>  2.6.10-5-386
[08:17] <lok> it's a default options
[08:17] <jo> i have
[08:17] <poningru> what is gcc.real?
[08:17] <reka> jo: then the package you're looking for is linux-source-2.6.10
[08:18] <lok> haven't you a icon which appears on your Desktop when you put a cdrom, a usb drive, or a floppy ?
[08:18] <gveri1> ubotu: thanks
[08:18] <ubotu> gveri1: sure thing
[08:18] <reka> poningru: type: file gcc.real
[08:18] <nalioth> poningru: from a terminal, type awht reka said
[08:18] <poningru> gcc.real: ERROR: cannot open `gcc.real' (No such file or directory)
[08:18] <sorush20> the simplest things like writing a file to a floopy make your head hurt..
[08:18] <poningru> thats what I get
[08:19] <reka> poningru: go to the directory where it's stored
[08:19] <reka> then type it
[08:19] <sorush20> why isn't the automount already turned on gnome..
[08:19] <sorush20> can anyone run though it with me..
[08:19] <poningru> I have no clue where it is
[08:19] <jo> i doint gen by root?
[08:19] <sorush20> please
[08:19] <ugo> hmm....does anyone know which debian packages provide getopt
[08:19] <ugo> GNU's getopt
[08:19] <ugo> ?
[08:19] <lok> sorush20, I don't understand whyt is your probleme by default the flopy is automounted by gnome and you can use drag and drop by nautilus
[08:20] <jo> do i have to make root paswoordt?
[08:20] <jo> did not see it on setup?
[08:20] <poningru> hmm its in /usr/bin
[08:20] <lok> ugo, use the search fonction on synaptic or apt-cache search getopt
[08:20] <nalioth> poningru: open a terminal, type "locate gcc.real" then run "file /path/to/gcc.real" on it
[08:20] <poningru> wait its a link to an executable
[08:20] <sorush20> well I go to my computer in the gnome, then double click on the floppy, it mounts then I drag a file to be written to it and it just dosen
[08:20] <sorush20> t
[08:20] <reka> poningru: [1]  insert disk [2]  places->computer [3]  double click on floppy, automounts for you [4]  copy files/whatever [5]  right click on the floppy icon on desktop when done and unmount
[08:20] <sorush20> do anything...
[08:20] <sorush20> lok: there is no activity form the a: drive
[08:22] <sorush20> I drag and drop the file to the floppy0 and its doesn't write..
[08:22] <reka> ubotu: tell jo about root
[08:22] <puddleboy> i put on my robe and wizard hat
[08:22] <sorush20> lok: should it write instantley
[08:22] <jo> yes i wont to by root
[08:22] <lok> yes sorush20
[08:22] <reka> jo: yeah...that made sense
[08:23] <reka> sorush20: iirc, it writes to disk when it unmounts
[08:23] <lsuactiafner> anyone know of a channel here on freenode to tell me about hardware compatibility for linxu?
[08:24] <sorush20> really... so I have to wait until then..
[08:24] <sorush20> that is very silly...
[08:24] <jo> apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:24] <jo> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[08:24] <jo> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[08:24] <sorush20> there is something that needs to be worked on..
[08:24] <glDaher> whats the command to update grub after editng the /boot/grub/menu.lst ??
[08:24] <sorush20> why do you think this is the case..
[08:24] <D[a] vey> how to make it possible to change resolution in hoary?
[08:24] <reka> sorush20: imho it's better.  it's faster than the windows way.
[08:25] <lsuactiafner> D[a] vey : /etc/X11/xorg.conf look for a line called modes
[08:25] <reka> ubotu: tell D[a] vey about fixres
[08:25] <reka> glDaher: no need to.
[08:25] <sorush20> reka: okay... I get your point.. anyways.. there is still a problem.. it doesn't write when i UNMOUNT can you help..
[08:26] <reka> sorush20: try the numbered process i gave above.
[08:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell D[a] vey about res
[08:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell D[a] vey about fixres
[08:26] <sorush20> reka: the iirc
[08:26] <reka> [1]  insert disk [2]  places->computer [3]  double click on floppy, automounts for you [4]  copy files/whatever [5]  right click on the floppy icon on desktop when done and unmount
[08:27] <ugo> lok: already done
[08:27] <vi4m> hello, where to find Ubuntu/Kubuntu FAQ ?
[08:27] <lsuactiafner> ubotu : tell nalioth about sex and daylight
[08:27] <nalioth> vi4m: https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:27] <vi4m> nalioth: thx
[08:27] <ugo> lok: the application's configure script still barfing about getopt
[08:28] <D[a] vey> nalioth, reka: my resolution is fine, I just want to be able to change it at will
[08:28] <lsuactiafner> marvell wireless chips work well in linux?
[08:28] <sorush20> guys I've still not been able to write a file to floppy...... please help..
[08:28] <reka> D[a] vey: sys->prefs->screen res
[08:28] <lsuactiafner> D[a] vey : press control alt + or -
[08:28] <lsuactiafner> in x
[08:28] <sorush20> I keep getting the message that the floppy is not mounted..
[08:28] <reka> lsuactiafner: that doesn't work right.  at least on my machine.
[08:29] <lsuactiafner> sorush20 : mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[08:29] <lsuactiafner> and write to /mnt
[08:29] <lsuactiafner> and then umount /mnt when done
[08:29] <lsuactiafner> reka : sometimes it works sometimes it doenst
[08:29] <lsuactiafner> works on my machine when setup correctly
[08:29] <D[a] vey> reka: I get "The X Server does not support XRandR extension. Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available"
[08:29] <nalioth> reka: not to say it won't work right on others
[08:29] <reka> lsuactiafner: it never does.  it just blows up the top left corner
[08:30] <reka> nalioth: which is why i had a disclaimer about it not working on mine. :P
[08:30] <puddleboy> jeez this wine installation takes forever
[08:30] <Xenguy> jo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  <-- FWIW
[08:30] <reka> D[a] vey: did you install a graphics driver?
[08:30] <ugo> puddleboy: were you able to sort out your ati card
[08:30] <ugo> ?
[08:30] <D[a] vey> reka: yes, ATI fireglfx
[08:30] <vdm> Im trying to get Xnest to work on breezy, but i get  a fatal server error. Cant open the fonts, not even the default 'fixed' one. Anyone a clue?
[08:31] <puddleboy> ugo, yes it took a while but i finally got it
[08:31] <ugo> excellent
[08:31] <AlexMBas> hello, does anynone here managed to run WindowsForms on ubuntu?
[08:31] <reka> D[a] vey: they don't support on the fly resolution changes iirc, you'll need to edt xorg.conf
[08:31] <IRCMonkey> how can i make a startup program start in a different workspace?
[08:31] <puddleboy> ugo, I downloaded a different set of drivers from ati.com
[08:31] <sorush20> Its still not working...
[08:31] <ugo> oh....right
[08:31] <JavaOnLinux> hello, does anyone here installed Sun Java Application Server 8.1Q2? it hangs when I installed with JDK1.5.0_04 but I wonder if that is because of one of the Shared Libraries does not have enough permission?
[08:31] <sorush20> I tried to type the command that you said and its not working...
[08:31] <reka> vdm: you do know brezzy is still in development right?
[08:31] <puddleboy> ugo, those worked out good, getting ~9k fps on the gears program =)
[08:32] <vdm> reka, yes
[08:32] <HappyFool> sorush20: you'll need to use sudo for those commands
[08:32] <nalioth> vdm: we don't use breezy, we'd rather jump in a bag of critters
[08:32] <Xenguy> sorush20: define "not working"
[08:32] <vdm> reka, and normally i have no problem with that.. but im a bit stuck on this one :/
[08:32] <HappyFool> sorush20: as in, 'sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt'
[08:32] <vdm> :p
[08:32] <reka> vdm: i can't help with breezy problems...sorry
[08:33] <Toba> ;(
[08:33] <reka> sorush20: if all else fails, you can use mtools
[08:33] <Toba> I'm having trouble with alien
[08:33] <Toba> I need to convert the linux rpm (in .bin format, whatever that is) to .deb to install it
[08:34] <monke1> alien -d [rpm file] 
[08:34] <vdm> reka, oh well, recon i have to switch between seperate X instances then to test me code :/   Thanks anyway
[08:34] <jo>  apt-get linux-source
[08:34] <jo> E: Invalid operation linux-source
[08:34] <Toba> I tried "alien --to-deb jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586-rpm.bin" but it did not work
[08:34] <Toba> is .bin the same as .rpm?
[08:34] <monke1> oh!
[08:34] <Xenguy> Toba: Plan B would be to install from source (preferably using 'checkinstall')
[08:34] <HappyFool> Toba: there's a better way to install java
[08:34] <resiak> Toba: No.
[08:34] <monke1> no
[08:34] <Toba> HappyFool: ooh?
[08:34] <Toba> where?
[08:34] <Seveas> Toba: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[08:34] <HappyFool> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:34] <HappyFool> ah-ha
[08:34] <monke1> you have to change the permisions of the .bin file and then execute it
[08:35] <Toba> wtf?
[08:35] <HappyFool> it's seveas with the magic java-install answer ;)
[08:35] <Toba> augh!
[08:35] <nalioths_dog> Toba: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[08:35] <HappyFool> Toba: Seveas recipe works well
[08:35] <Toba> change permissions... execute
[08:35] <monke1> yup
[08:35] <Toba> got it
[08:35] <snigel1> ok everyone. for a dualboot system. is it better to install xp or ubuntu first?
[08:35] <Toba> or not
[08:35] <reka> snigel1: xp
[08:35] <Xenguy> snigel1: xp
[08:35] <HappyFool> snigel1: i'd install xp first
[08:35] <Seveas> Toba, do NOT execute the .bin file directly!
[08:35] <snigel1> hehe thanks
[08:35] <Toba> heh ok
[08:35] <shido> XO
[08:35] <Toba> I won't
[08:35] <shido> install XP first
[08:35] <shido> YOU CAN
[08:35] <shido> do UBUNTU first
[08:35] <snigel1> and just leave some gb of empty partition
[08:35] <nalioth> snigel1: windows first
[08:35] <shido> but make sure you have power quest partition magic
[08:35] <shido> err
[08:36] <shido> crap i think its symantec now
[08:36] <nalioth> snigel1: windows will eat your bootloader
[08:36] <Toba> augh
[08:36] <snigel1> sounds like xp first wins
[08:36] <snigel1> :)
[08:36] <shido> but its tough
[08:36] <shido> you have to move the ubuntu partition
[08:36] <Seveas> Toba, just install fakeroot and java-package
[08:36] <anarky99> wtf is up with greeks
[08:36] <shido> towards the end of the drive
[08:36] <anarky99> my ex is greek and her parents hate me
[08:36] <shido> and make a xp partition
[08:36] <shido> around the beginning of the drive
[08:36] <nalioth> snigel1: only use fat32
[08:36] <nalioth> snigel1: NTFS blows
[08:36] <HappyFool> it does?
[08:36] <lsuactiafner> it blows indeed
[08:37] <Seveas> Toba, you might need to enable multiverse
[08:37] <shido> NTFS is fine - but you wont be able to "write" to ntfs in ubuntu without risking blowing things up
[08:37] <reka> anarky99: silly bugger.  all parents hate their daughter's bfriends
[08:37] <snigel1> uuh i already started a win install with ntfs.. and left 15 gb unpartioned for ubuntu
[08:37] <snigel1> should i re-do+
[08:37] <snigel1> ?
[08:37] <puddleboy> snigel1, just start over
[08:37] <Seveas> snigel1, it's OK, you just cannot write to it from linux
[08:37] <HappyFool> snigel1: that's fine. i use ntfs
[08:37] <sorush20> guys I'm just installing Mtools.. from the apt-get
[08:37] <reka> snigel1: just know that you can't write to ntfs
[08:37] <Xenguy> snigel1: yeah, it's worth having FAT32
[08:37] <snigel1> aha. i dont care. will just have work-stuff in first partiion anyway
[08:37] <Toba> I'll bet synaptic works fine
[08:37] <sorush20> so bare with me... I'm going to write to the floppy one way or another...
[08:38] <Toba> installing hte java thing with it now
[08:38] <nalioth> snigel1: naw, you just wont be able to write to your NTFS partition
[08:38] <Xenguy> snigel1: or partition some FAT32 space where linux and d0ze can share
[08:38] <snigel1> ok thanks thanks
[08:38] <Toba> now how to test that
[08:38] <Xenguy> snigel1: with partition magic you can convert NTFS->FAT32 later -- FYI
[08:38] <snigel1> thanks
[08:38] <sorush20> Now if I was in windows.. just a drag and drop would have done it.. but no in linux.. things have to be pritty with Gnome, and KDE and all other frontends , but dum, and not to mention cheap...
[08:38] <monke1> Toba: go to a webpage with a java applet to test it
[08:39] <monke1> using the package manager, it should have made a link with firefox
[08:39] <Davey> sorush20: what're you trying to do?
[08:39] <reka> Davey: mounting floppies
[08:39] <Davey> oh, I don't even own a floppy drive anymore
[08:39] <sorush20> Davey; just write a file to a floppy? not toomuch to ask I hope?
[08:40] <Seveas> Toba, just run: fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-something.bin
[08:41] <Davey> sorush20: do you have gnome-volume-manager installed?
[08:41] <jo> how to get kernel source  apt-get source
[08:41] <jo>  wont work
[08:41] <reka> jo; didn't i already tell you the precise command?
[08:41] <Seveas> jo, apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10
[08:41] <Davey> sorush20: you might want to try autofs as well, though I haven't tried it
[08:42] <jo> sory
[08:42] <thoreauputic> jo prepend sudo
[08:42] <jo> can i do kernel like normaal fron /usr/src
[08:42] <jo> like oter distos
[08:42] <whitelines> how can i startup a program in a different worksapce?
[08:43] <gveri1> ubotu: That fix (for resolution/refresh rate) did not work. I don't know why
[08:43] <ubotu> You are moron #2, gveri1
[08:43] <Seveas> jo, waarom wil je berhaupt de kernel source installeren, die heb je in Ubuntu niet nodig
[08:43] <reka> gveri1: ubotu is a bot.
[08:43] <Seveas> gveri1, ubotu is a bot, excuse his impolite answer
[08:43] <gveri1> reka: :) Ok, got it
[08:43] <Seveas> Maybe we should silence it until the creator removes these...
[08:43] <monke1> there are bots in this room??!!
[08:44] <Seveas> monke1, only ubotu
[08:44] <Taken_By_Kristin> Ok I'm still getting invalid driver guys....
[08:44] <reka> Seveas: heh, the messages should be fixed, yeah.
[08:44] <Seveas> the somewhat official bot
[08:44] <lsuactiafner> rofl that was funny
[08:44] <lsuactiafner> Seveas is a bot also
[08:44] <Seveas> ssshhh
[08:44] <Seveas> no one may know...
[08:44] <gveri1> Anywho... I have a problem with refresh rate. I set proper conf for X and V rates but it still sets 60 hz ...
[08:44] <lsuactiafner> dont mind him just a very good AI
[08:44] <Taken_By_Kristin> Seveas do you think you can help me out again?
[08:44] <Seveas> gveri1, did you restart the X server after changing the settings?
[08:44] <lsuactiafner> ):
[08:45] <lsuactiafner> i think i need to post to bash
[08:45] <jo> :/usr/src # cd linux-source-2.6.10
[08:45] <jo> root@CC667024-A:/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10 #
[08:45] <manderso> howdy folks.  I was wondering if someone could lend a hand with getting netatalk running properly with ssl support enabled
[08:45] <gveri1> Seveas: :) Thank you for trusting in my mental capacity. And yes.
[08:45] <gveri1> Do you get Monitor section dumped into the log?
[08:46] <gveri1> Maybe Scree just misreads identifier...
[08:46] <lsuactiafner> jo make menuconfig
[08:46] <marsh> i bin searching for how to release my dhcp server so I can attach it to another machine, but cant find out how due to the word release covering so much ground (press release/version release etc... ) is there any other way of finding this out - or does anyone know how to release a dhcp client?
[08:46] <jo>  apt-get gcc E: Invalid operation gcc
[08:46] <jo> lsuactiafner must have gcc fust
[08:47] <lsuactiafner> jo : apt-get install build-essentials
[08:47] <lsuactiafner> jo : apt-get install build-essential
[08:47] <lsuactiafner> jo : also you might need ncurses also
[08:47] <reka> gveri1: i think the identifier is just a label.  post your xorg.conf to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:47] <jo> apt-get install build-essential
[08:47] <lsuactiafner> i installed ncurses from source i dont knwo if there is a package, should be
[08:47] <manderso> it appears that the debian package disables ssl by default due to licensing issues.  I'm having difficulty rebuilding the package so it works again.  Never have gotten the hang of the debian package system.
[08:47] <lsuactiafner> !build-essential
[08:47] <ubotu> from memory, build-essential is http://ubuntuguide.org/#build-essential
[08:48] <Toba> it says make-jpgk is not a valid command
[08:48] <Toba> ;(
[08:48] <Toba> command not found
[08:48] <Toba> wtf
[08:48] <HappyFool> make-jpkg
[08:48] <HappyFool> not make-jpgk
[08:48] <lupus1010> how can I have bigger fonts in xterm?
[08:48] <Toba> um
[08:48] <Toba> I mistyped on IRC
[08:48] <marsh> anyone??? there must be an easy equivalent of 'ipconfig /release' I tried ifconfig eth0 down - but it doesn't seem to release it... :(
[08:48] <Toba> root@pippin:~ # fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-something.bin
[08:48] <Toba> /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found
[08:48] <sisq0> hello
[08:48] <HappyFool> Toba: then you need to install the 'java-package' package
[08:48] <Toba> I did
[08:48] <gveri1> reka: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/248
[08:48] <Toba> in synaptic
[08:48] <gveri1> reka: Thanks
[08:49] <Toba> or not
[08:49] <Toba> nevermind
[08:49] <jo> apt-get install   ncurses-devel
[08:49] <jo> Reading package lists... Done
[08:49] <jo> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:49] <jo> E: Couldn't find package ncurses-devel
[08:49] <dougsk> lupus1010, hold down ctrl and right click
[08:49] <Toba> it syas can't find package java-package
[08:49] <Toba> wtf does that mean?
[08:49] <Toba> I did apt-get update today
[08:49] <Toba> so it's not out of date
[08:49] <reka> jo: if you just need gcc, build-essential will suffice
[08:49] <HappyFool> Toba: as Seveas said, you need to enable universe/multiverse
[08:49] <gveri1> reka: Hmm, found something... one sec
[08:50] <jo> i did
[08:50] <HappyFool> jo: try libncurses5-dev
[08:50] <HappyFool> Toba: are you using synaptic?
[08:50] <reka> gveri1: you have two monitor sections
[08:50] <lupus1010> thx dougsk
[08:50] <gveri1> reka: (WW) NV(0): config file hsync range 30-70kHz not within DDC hsync ranges.
[08:50] <jo> yes
[08:50] <Toba> HappyFool: no, I wasn't
[08:50] <gveri1> reka: but my screen refers to only one. Is that a problem?
[08:50] <dougsk> lupus1010, np
[08:50] <Toba> but I searched for "java" and I don't see java-package on there
[08:51] <jo> very good
[08:51] <Toba> just java-common and something with sable
[08:51] <Toba> I installed those two hoping it would work, is that a problem?
[08:51] <reka> gveri1: hang on
[08:51] <lsuactiafner> reka : he wants to run make menuconfig, you need ncurses for it
[08:51] <HappyFool> Toba: yes, that is because universe/multiverse are not enabled. Start synaptic, and then click Settings -> Repositories; that will being up a dialog bog
[08:51] <HappyFool> box, even
[08:51] <reka> lsuactiafner: ah righto
[08:52] <HappyFool> Toba: then click 'Add', and tick the 'universe' and 'multiverse' options (and the 'main' and 'restricted' if they're not ticked)
[08:52] <reka> gveri1: try changing it to 30-90 and 50-160 (from the wiki fixres page)
[08:52] <gveri1> reka: ok, let me try taht
[08:52] <Seveas> jo, you should NOT manually compile the kernel with make bzimage etc...
[08:52] <sisq0> could anybody help me with mplayer? I'm trying to put complete screen to watch my videos, but i can't do it... mplayer just put complete screen but with the same size video window
[08:53] <Toba> HappyFool: I'm not seeing universe and multiverse options
[08:53] <reka> gveri1: whoops
[08:53] <reka> 20-96
[08:53] <reka> *30-96
[08:53] <reka> argh
[08:53] <Seveas> jo, use make-kpkg (package kernel-package) for building kernel images
[08:53] <HappyFool> Toba: have you clicked the 'Add' button?
[08:53] <Toba> err nevermind
[08:53] <Seveas> toba: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:53] <Seveas> toba: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[08:53] <Toba> it was in parenthesis ;(
[08:53] <Toba> jeez I'm a moron
[08:53] <HappyFool> ok, so enable them, and click ok
[08:53] <HappyFool> then ok again. synaptic should refresh, and you should be able to find java-package
[08:54] <Toba> ok will do
[08:54] <gveri1> reka: ? 96? OK, let me try taht
[08:54] <Toba> downloading stuff now
[08:54] <sisq0> please! help
[08:54] <Toba> oh THERE it all is
[08:54] <HappyFool> you may wish to also add the 'updates' and 'security-updates' repositories; they can be selected using the list-box at the top of the 'Add' dialog box
[08:54] <black-whisp> anyone got a good way to make xmms support mpg and wma files????
[08:55] <HappyFool> sisq0: maybe read 'man mplayer' (type that command in a terminal window) to find out mplayer commands
[08:55] <sorush20> guys how do you exit a man page.. when it gets to the end...
[08:56] <HappyFool> type 'q'
[08:56] <Toba> do I want universe and multiverse on my security updates and updates repositories?
[08:56] <lok> wma suy
[08:56] <lok> s/y/x/
[08:56] <HappyFool> Toba: i do, though i'm not sure it's worth anything
[08:56] <lok> ^^
[08:56] <jo>  make && make modulle_install
[08:56] <HappyFool> Toba: it won't do any harm, as far as i know
[08:56] <sorush20> okayll
[08:56] <jo> but witch bzImage to cp
[08:56] <dougsk> black-whisp, wma- no although there is a source package somewhere, mpeg there is a plugin called smpeg-xmms
[08:57] <sorush20> thanks happy fool..
[08:57] <reka> sisq0: i've heard of that search ubuntuforums.
[08:57] <Octane> does anyone have office 2.0 installed and can do me a huge favor?
[08:57] <dougsk> Octane, oo.o beta?
[08:57] <Octane> yes
[08:57] <dougsk> I got it
[08:57] <Octane> i need a 2.0 spreadsheet converted to 1.0
[08:57] <Octane> would you mind?
[08:57] <nalioth> well its time for a new workstation
[08:58] <dougsk> Octane, no problems, but I've had troubles beofre with that
[08:58] <dougsk> Octane, converting that is
[08:58] <jo> after  make && make modulle_install mout /boot andt than cp .......?
[08:58] <poningru> wtf
[08:58] <poningru> -----> Rebuilding the world ! <-----
[08:58] <poningru> -----> Building package list <-----
[08:58] <poningru> Please read README.Debian first.
[08:58] <poningru> thats if I run
[08:58] <poningru> apt-build world
[08:59] <nalioth> poningru: are you going gentoo on us?
[08:59] <HappyFool> jo: isn't there a Documentation directory in the kernel tree ? Maybe it will tell you. You may need an initrd image of some sort too.
[08:59] <Octane> dougsk: mind PM'ing me your email? or you want DCC?
[08:59] <poningru> heh
[08:59] <anarky99> bye all
[08:59] <anarky99> speak tomorrow
[08:59] <gveri1> reka: Nothing :(
[08:59] <jo> oke
[08:59] <nalioth> poningru: did you read the part about rebuilding the kernel?
[08:59] <dougsk> Octane, try DCC if you will
[08:59] <anarky99> cheers Seveas
[08:59] <yuacht> where do i edit what apps i want on autostart?
[08:59] <poningru> bbl
[08:59] <poningru> where is that file though
[08:59] <gveri1> reka: freq out of range
[08:59] <reka> gveri1: i'd try changing the other monitor's rates
[08:59] <niall> Can someone help me make tvtime or kaffeine detect my DVB card?
[09:00] <reka> gveri1: dunno really.
[09:00] <Seveas> jo, aren't you listening at all??????
[09:00] <Seveas> jo, you should NOT manually compile the kernel with make bzimage etc...
[09:00] <_0kills> hey all, if you like rock n roll, check this band out: www.valhalladrive.com
[09:00] <Seveas> jo, use make-kpkg (package kernel-package) for building kernel images
[09:00] <gveri1> reka: Thanks
[09:00] <nalioth> are the imac G5s any good as workstations?
[09:00] <nalioth> ijust killed this one right off doin some video
[09:02] <yuacht> anyone?
[09:02] <Seveas> nalioth, they are supposed to be :)
[09:02] <Seveas> yuacht, hang on
[09:02] <Seveas> system -> preferences -> sessions
[09:02] <Seveas> rightmost tab
[09:02] <Toba> augh
[09:02] <Toba> not working HappyFool
[09:02] <yuacht> Seveas, thanks
[09:02] <Seveas> what's up Toba
[09:02] <Seveas> still on the java?
[09:02] <djp> does anybody know how i use an .img file in linux/ubuntu?
[09:02] <Toba> yes I am
[09:02] <jo> Seveasoke
[09:02] <Toba> ;(
[09:03] <yuacht> and another thing, how do i change from the 386 kernel to the k7? without hazzle if possible
[09:03] <Seveas> Toba, what's the problem?
[09:03] <Toba> so far I have added universe and multiverse, update stuff
[09:03] <Toba> installed java-package using synaptic
[09:03] <Seveas> djp, can't bchunk transform that to iso?
[09:03] <Toba> downloaded the .bin from sun
[09:03] <Seveas> nice nice
[09:03] <Toba> and now I'm doing what you said
[09:03] <Seveas> almost there :)
[09:03] <Toba> but it's crashing
[09:03] <djp> yuacht: install linux-k7
[09:03] <Seveas> ooh, that's bad...
[09:03] <Seveas> Toba, what's the error?
[09:03] <Toba> "no matching plugin was found"
[09:03] <Toba> what does that mean?
[09:03] <yuacht> djp, is that it?
[09:03] <nalioth> Seveas: believe bchunk requires a bin and cue
[09:03] <Seveas> :|
[09:03] <djp> Seveas: i want to dump the contents
[09:04] <HappyFool> Toba: have you installed the deb file ?
[09:04] <nalioth> Seveas: it's rather limited
[09:04] <Toba> I don't see a .deb file
[09:04] <HappyFool> Toba: 'sudo dpkg -i <somefilename>.deb' ?
[09:04] <Seveas> Toba, does make-jpkg say that?
[09:04] <Toba> ah
[09:04] <djp> yuacht: yes
[09:04] <Toba> brb checking my shell
[09:04] <yuacht> will SMP give me any positive effect? using amd64 3200+
[09:04] <Seveas> yuacht, only if you have 2 processors :)
[09:04] <HappyFool> do you have two processors?
[09:05] <yuacht> i don't so :D
[09:05] <nalioth> yuacht: yes, you'll actually use both cpus
[09:05] <jo> yuacht no its for 2 cpu
[09:05] <Seveas> yuacht, when you have just 1 cpu, it will even degrade performance :)
[09:05] <jo> jub
[09:05] <HappyFool> huh. really?
[09:05] <jo> jub
[09:05] <jo> in gentoo it is
[09:06] <Seveas> gentoo alone is performance degradation...
[09:06] <HappyFool> i suppose it would be enabled by default if it didn't ;)
[09:06] <yuacht> hmm, so i'll install linux-k7, but how do i get ubuntu to use it as default?
[09:06] <yuacht> is that automatic?
[09:06] <Seveas> yuacht, you can choose on boot
[09:06] <Toba> Seveas and HappyFool: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/249
[09:06] <reka> Seveas: heh that's ironic
[09:06] <Seveas> if you remove the -386 kernels (or simply edit the grub config) it'll even be automatic
[09:06] <Toba> how do I get the .deb file?
[09:07] <Toba> I tried alien, it did not work
[09:07] <Seveas> Toba, you took the wrong .bin
[09:07] <HappyFool> Toba: with the fakeroot make-jpkg line
[09:07] <HappyFool> ah
[09:07] <Toba> wrong .bin?
[09:07] <Toba> what SHOULD I have?
[09:07] <Seveas> Toba, you should download the 'linux self extracting binary'
[09:07] <djp> i have installed linux-k7 here and it just boots automatically using the k7 kernel
[09:07] <Seveas> not the rpm version
[09:07] <Toba> oh heh
[09:07] <_0kills> is wmaked on any ubuntu repos?
[09:07] <Seveas> _0kills, packages.ubuntu.com or apt-cache search can tell you...
[09:08] <HappyFool> Toba: i used jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[09:08] <Toba> downloading it now
[09:08] <gveri1> reka: I returned to apologize for my stupidity...
[09:08] <_0kills> Seveas, thanks
[09:08] <nalioth> brb
[09:08] <nalioths_dog> woof
[09:08] <ttyS0> please answer my lame question. how to edit gnome's APPLICATIONS menu  (with submenus)? :)
[09:08] <gveri1> reka: My res was wet to 1280x smth and 60 was the rate that this res runs at :(
[09:08] <Seveas> ttyS0: you can find out more about gnome 2.10 (hoary) menu editing on http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GnomeMenuEditingHowTo
[09:08] <sorush20> did you guys know that most of gnome things don't work in KDE
[09:08] <Taken_By_Kristin> Seveas!  I got it to work!!
[09:08] <ttyS0> Seveas, ty
[09:08] <Taken_By_Kristin> Holy shit.
[09:09] <Toba> grr, 180 kB/s can seen so slow :(
[09:09] <Seveas> ttyS0, or the short answer: use smeg (www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg)
[09:09] <Seveas> Taken_By_Kristin, nice!
[09:09] <Taken_By_Kristin> Yeah!
[09:09] <Taken_By_Kristin> Bwuahaha!
[09:09] <ttyS0> okidoki, thanks :)
[09:09] <HappyFool> Toba: try 56 kb/s
[09:09] <Taken_By_Kristin> Does Ubuntu come with a firewall or anything?
[09:09] <reka> gveri1: aha. :)
[09:09] <HappyFool> if i'm lucky ;)
[09:09] <Toba> HappyFool: ;( I would die
[09:09] <Taken_By_Kristin> Now that I'm online.
[09:09] <Seveas> Taken_By_Kristin, linux has a firewall built into the kernel
[09:09] <reka> gveri1: at least you worked it out. :)
[09:09] <HappyFool> Taken_By_Kristin: yeah, but ubuntu has no listening ports by default (afaik)
[09:09] <reka> gveri1: no need to apologize
[09:10] <Seveas> but Ubuntu does not need a firewall, no services are installed by default...
[09:10] <Taken_By_Kristin> Oh ok cool.
[09:10] <Taken_By_Kristin> Schweet.
[09:11] <Toba> ooh, it works :D
[09:11] <_0kills> any of you guys like rock n roll?
[09:11] <Toba> now that I'm not using the .rpm, things work better
[09:11] <Toba> hehe
 but Ubuntu does not need a firewall, no services are installed by default... <= that's not true
[09:12] <Toba> ssh is
[09:12] <njan> there are plenty of services, most of them just don't listen on anything but loopback.
[09:12] <Toba> right?
[09:12] <njan> Toba, no, it isn't.
[09:12] <Toba> oh
[09:12] <Toba> my bad then
[09:12] <njan> :)
[09:13] <_0kills> well, if youre ever bored, you should give this band a listen: www.valhalladrive.com.. please check it out
[09:13] <reka> _0kills: don't spam please
[09:14] <Toba> ooh
[09:14] <achy> Hi,new to linux. how do i get new window to open up when i open a folder rather than the same one?
[09:14] <Toba> dunno, but that reminds me
[09:14] <Toba> how do I get the "places" menu to open the file browser instead of whatever it opens by default?
[09:14] <wolverian> achy: either keep shift pressed when you open the new one, or use the middle mouse button to double click
[09:14] <Toba> and how do I get it to just maximize it instead of starting tiny each time?
[09:15] <reka> Toba: it's in preferences.
[09:15] <Seveas> njan, ack :)
[09:15] <reka> behaviour->always open in browser windows
[09:16] <Seveas> but that makes no difference to firewalling needs
[09:16] <achy> thanks wolverian, now how do I make all the windows open up to be the same size?
[09:16] <wolverian> achy: you don't.
[09:16] <achy> you cant?
[09:17] <wolverian> I certainly don't know how to, besides not resizing them in the first place.
[09:17] <wolverian> (each folder remembers its size.)
[09:17] <njan> Seveas, Not really; just didn't want to give him the wrong impression :p
[09:17] <apollo2011> Where do I edit what gets loaded when Ubuntu is booted? I see several things that I could remove and save sometime booting up
[09:17] <achy> ya i know was hoping there was a option all to open same size
[09:18] <optical> http://pastebin.com/304343
[09:18] <optical> any ideas?
[09:18] <Seveas> apollo2011, make *very* sure you don't need a certain service and use update-rc.d -f SERVICENAME remove
[09:18] <apollo2011> Seveas: ok thx
[09:18] <apollo2011> Is there a list somewhere of those services or should I just look in the boot log
[09:19] <Seveas> optical, yeah, stop screwing around with your sources.list...
[09:19] <Seveas> apollo2011, /etc/init.d
[09:19] <apollo2011> thx again
[09:19] <optical> Seveas: i want breezy
[09:19] <Seveas> apollo2011, you might also be interested in BUM, a graphical way of managing booting services
[09:19] <Seveas> apollo2011, look at the forums for more info
[09:19] <Seveas> optical, read the topic
[09:19] <apollo2011> ooh even better
[09:19] <Seveas> breezy should NOT be used by the general public
[09:20] <Guest55494> hi, is bin files like iso files...??? how does one burn them if so
[09:20] <optical> but what if i'm not the general public?
[09:20] <Seveas> and given that you don't know how to solve this: breezy is NOT suitable for you yet
[09:20] <Seveas> Guest55494, k3b can burn them, bchunk can convert them to .iso files if you want to mount them
[09:21] <dougsk> Seveas, bum looks pretty neat, excellent add feature
[09:21] <concept10> How do I rewrite GRUB to the MBR using the install disk?
[09:21] <HappyFool> and a delightful name to boot
[09:22] <dougsk> HappyFool, yeah easy to remember
[09:22] <nitroXL> does anyone uses mixxx dj program ?
[09:22] <jo> GRUB is installed. To automatically switch to new kernels, point your
[09:22] <jo> default entry in menu.lst to /boot/arch/i386/boot/bzImage-2.6.10
[09:22] <jo> root@CC667024-A:/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10 #
[09:22] <Seveas> concept10, are you currently still in the installed system?
[09:22] <ttyS0> Seveas, dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smeg:
[09:22] <jo> is it oke/
[09:22] <ttyS0>  smeg depends on python-xdg (>= 0.14); however:
[09:22] <ttyS0>   Version of python-xdg on system is 0.9-1.     i don't understand. i've newer version and it is bad? :)
[09:23] <Seveas> ttyS0, run the smeg install script
[09:23] <ttyS0> Seveas, i have .deb :)
[09:23] <Seveas> ttyS0, 0.14 is higher than 0.9
[09:23] <concept10> Seveas, no Im on another system, I need to fix NTLDR and GRUB
[09:23] <wolverian> ttyS0: possibly 0.14 is newer than 0.9.
[09:23] <apollo2011> Seveas: is there a specif web site for BUM.  It seems hard to search on...
[09:23] <Seveas> ttyS0, that is not enough
[09:23] <ttyS0> oh
[09:23] <Seveas> apollo2011, the 3rd part projects section on the forums
[09:24] <apollo2011> Seveas: oh the Ubuntu forums?
[09:24] <Seveas> apollo2011, yes
[09:24] <dougsk> apollo2011, http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[09:24] <apollo2011> thx dougsk
[09:24] <Seveas> concept10, you should boot from a livecd, mount your partitions, mount proc on /mnt/installed_sys/proc, mount /dev on /mnt/installed_sys/dev, chroot into the installed system and run grub-install
[09:25] <dougsk> no worries, I just had bum open and was looking at it ;)
[09:25] <Seveas> dougsk, if this wasn't #ubuntu that would be a VERY weird line to say :)
[09:25] <HappyFool> heh
[09:25] <kult> hi all
[09:25] <Seveas> hi
[09:25] <dougsk> Seveas, lmao, ohh oops, yes.
[09:25] <Pedingto> Heyo Folks
[09:25] <Toba> argh
[09:25] <Toba> it wants me to logout to make flash work
[09:25] <Toba> assholes
[09:25] <kult> i'v got some weirdness with multimedia playback
[09:26] <nalioth> system crashed harder than i thought
[09:26] <Seveas> kult, what's the problem ..?
[09:26] <Seveas> nalioth, ouch...
[09:26] <Seveas> nalioth, keep your dog away from it then ;)
[09:26] <nalioth> brb
[09:26] <wolverian> hah. I was just about to say that the only thing that crashes my system nowadays is my cat.
[09:26] <kult> Seveas, totem crash, rythmbox says that there is no handler for video/mpeg
[09:26] <kult> it's a fresh ubuntu install
[09:27] <Seveas> kult: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[09:27] <Seveas> kult, you probably need to install some codecs...
[09:27] <nalioth> Seveas: brb, and the dog rarely causes these things
[09:27] <jo> stil in old kenel gr
[09:28] <kult> ok thanks
[09:28] <Seveas> Pedingto, welcome to the club :)
[09:28] <jo> witch site to go for how to do kernel in urbuntu
[09:28] <Pedingto> Cheers, I'm hoping its slightly more compatable with my Dell Inspiron laptop then Knoppix was.
[09:28] <Seveas> jo, kijk op de wiki, er is KernelCompileHowto
[09:28] <roy> can someone help me get a broadcom chipset (belkin wireless card) working? i had the driver installed with ndiswrapper, but the card just won't light up for some reason
[09:29] <Seveas> roy, what does ndiswrapper -l say?
[09:29] <jo> oke want zit nog steeds iet in de source
[09:29] <roy> driver present, hardware present
[09:29] <swarm> roy: have you changed kernel?
[09:30] <roy> i installed all the updates...if that's what you mean
[09:30] <Seveas> roy, did you modprobe the ndiswrapper module?
[09:30] <tapo> Seveas: rtl8150?
[09:30] <munki> roy , I know how :) got the same chip .
[09:30] <Seveas> (try lsmod | grep ndis to find out)
[09:30] <Seveas> tapo, hmm?
[09:30] <Guest55494> hi, is bin files like iso files...??? how does one burn them if so
[09:30] <roy> yes i modprobed
[09:30] <munki> replace radiostate|1 to radiostate|0 in /etc/ndiswrapper/something.conf
[09:30] <munki> roy , replace radiostate|1 to radiostate|0 in /etc/ndiswrapper/something.conf
[09:31] <tapo> Seveas: pardon
[09:31] <Seveas> munki, nice one, can you put that suggestion on the WifiHowto wikipage please
[09:31] <swarm> roy: you have to write ndiswrapper conf with ndiswrapper -m and to add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules. If you upgrade kernel you have to repeat almost all process for new kernel.
[09:31] <munki> roy , and it will work, take my word on that .
[09:31] <rathernotlarge> hmm may I ask whether anyone has faced some weird issues with notebook battery charging? ever since I installed hoary, I cannot charge my battery anymore, and my notebook runs on AC power. . once I switch off my laptop, or boot to windows, my battery starts charging. um my battery worked perfectly on warty, though.
[09:32] <munki> Seveas , yeah .. sure :)
[09:32] <Seveas> rathernotlarge, that is weird, does it happen also when you boot with acpi=off
[09:32] <Seveas> ?
[09:32] <roy> how do i upgrade the kernel?
[09:33] <munki> roy , did you try my suggestion ?
[09:33] <Seveas> roy, with apt-get upgrade :)
[09:33] <roy> yeah i think i've tried replacing radiostate|1 with radiostate|0 in the conf files
[09:33] <roy> okay let me try this again, thank you so much for all the help
[09:33] <samuel> sup all, has anyone had any luck getting a radion mobility 9000 working on a toshiba laptop?
[09:33] <Seveas> roy, you might need to reboot for that to work
[09:34] <munki> roy , wait a sec.
[09:34] <Seveas> samuel: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:34] <roy> is it possible that the bcmwl5.inf file on my belkin disk sucks and i need a better one?
[09:34] <black-whisp> samuel: or try #ati
[09:34] <munki> roy , http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=broadcom+howto
[09:34] <roy> munki, thanks i was looking at that =)
[09:34] <black-whisp> samuel: they know some stuff about ati drivers..  :) drac at that channel help me with my radeon 9800 xt
[09:34] <samuel> Seveas, black-whisp thanks
[09:35] <munki> roy :) that does work , use it my self .
[09:35] <nalioth> ok
[09:35] <nalioth> i love 'gnu screen'
[09:38] <nalioth> the bus must have stopped
[09:40] <Pedingto> Anyone know of any issues with installs on Dell Inspiron 1100 systems?  I couldn't see any in the bugzilla, or listed elsewhere.
[09:40] <Seveas> what is the issue..?
[09:41] <jo> doint get it
[09:41] <roy> in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5 i have 14E4:4320:1799:7010.conf but i can't open the conf file to change radiostate|1 to radiostate|0
[09:41] <Pedingto> There isn't one...yet ;)  But I haven't had a lot of luck with this laptop, just making sure there are no pre-exsisting bugs that could trip me over.
[09:42] <Guest55494> hi, is bin files like iso files...??? how does one burn them if so
[09:42] <ugo> anyone knows how to get skype working on amd64 ubuntu?
[09:43] <nalioth> talk about "quiz and run"
[09:43] <nalioth> ugo: is there no binary from the repos
[09:44] <ugo> nalioth: however this is an amd64 laptop soo...its barfing
[09:46] <ugo> nalioth: ill try the skype static libraries first
[09:47] <Hoshimaru> good evening. Is there a setting somewhere that binds samba to eth0 or eth1 ? When eth1 (wifi) I can see other pcs, but not with eth0 connected. (wired)
[09:48] <snigel1> WHATHTEFUCK! my win xp recovery cd erased my partition info and took the whole disc. can i lower the partition space without formating it?
[09:49] <black-whisp> singel1: is it in windows?
[09:49] <absinthe> How do you change the sound server in Xfce?
[09:49] <snigel1> black-whisp yes
[09:50] <tapo> is an admin of ubuntu-forum.de here? I am waiting for my reg mail for over 15 minutes now...
[09:50] <black-whisp> singel1: i thinks theres a program called partition maigc or something like that to do that with.
[09:50] <snigel1> black-whisp any freeware ?
[09:51] <nalioth> snigel1: moral of the story: don't run windows
[09:51] <nalioth> snigel1: qtparted
[09:51] <kanichEEE> How I can install an .rpm program?
[09:51] <black-whisp> singel1: erhm.. maybe.. but not some i know. :S
[09:51] <snigel1> nalioth: i need it for work
[09:52] <nalioth> snigel1: of course you do, but you see how nasty it is
[09:52] <tapo> kanichEEE: I think there's a repackaging tool somewhere. I dont remember the name :)
[09:52] <absinthe> How do you change the sound server in Xfce?
[09:52] <snigel1> nalioth: of course it it. i use to run out on the street and scream when im at the office
[09:52] <monke1> kanichEEE....it's a program called alien
[09:52] <heatxsink> how do I know where a apt-get install package got installed?
[09:52] <kanichEEE> mmm\
[09:52] <tapo> yes, alien.
[09:53] <monke1> kanichEEE: in order to install an rpm, you have to convert it into a .deb package
[09:53] <monke1> you do this by this:
[09:53] <monke1> alien -d [name of rpm file] 
[09:53] <tapo> heatxsink: dpkg -L packetname
[09:53] <Seveas> heatxsink, dpkg -L packagename
[09:53] <Seveas> kanichEEE, but please search for a .deb file before doing this
[09:53] <tapo> s/et/age :)
[09:53] <Seveas> :)
[09:53] <kanichEEE> There isnt a .deb file :(
[09:54] <heatxsink> cook
[09:54] <Seveas> kanichEEE, what are you trying to install?
[09:54] <heatxsink> cool
[09:54] <kanichEEE> Gaim
[09:54] <Seveas> kanichEEE, gaim is in the repositories...
[09:54] <kanichEEE> oh.
[09:54] <tapo> :)
[09:54] <Seveas> and even installed by default!
[09:54] <Seveas> applications -> internet -> gaim
[09:54] <kanichEEE> lol.. well, and how do I install limewire ;o ... it s only .rpm
[09:55] <nalioth> kanichEEE: use gtk-gnutella instead
[09:55] <nalioth> kanichEEE: it has more features
[09:55] <pietro_spina> heatsi: you can see that list in the package properties in synaptic as well
[09:55] <remyforbes777>   whatis the c++ compiler in linux called
[09:55] <tapo> gaim from repository is rather old... 1.1.4 vs 1.3.1
[09:55] <yuacht> I keep getting "unable to find workgroups in your local network" even though i have it all configured! what do i do=
[09:56] <pietro_spina> remyforbes777: g++
[09:56] <remyforbes777> ok
[09:56] <Seveas> tapo, backports has a more recent version
[09:56] <Seveas> remyforbes777, if you are compiling things, make sure you have build-essential installed
[09:57] <remyforbes777> Seveas: how would i know if I do
[09:57] <Seveas> remyforbes777, install the build-essential package with synaptic or aptitude, it is not installed by default
[09:57] <remyforbes777> Seveas
[09:57] <tapo> Seveas: backports? whats the sources.list line?
[09:58] <Seveas> tapo: To find out the location of backports, go to backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php
[09:58] <remyforbes777> Seveas: ok
[09:59] <yuacht> I keep getting "unable to find workgroups in your local network" even though i have it all configured! what do i do? :(:(
[09:59] <Drako60> is there anyway to get system wide UTF-16 support?
[10:00] <Seveas> Drako60, UTF-16 is not yet fully supported in glibc afaik, so I don't think so
[10:00] <Drako60> hmm
[10:00] <tapo> Seveas: ok, but I do I tell it sources.list (after the url)
[10:01] <Seveas> tapo, you visit that url with your browser to find a sources.list entry :)
[10:01] <Drako60> i think i will be glad when breezy is stable to use
[10:01] <tapo> I've been there :)
[10:02] <Seveas> Drako60, you are not the only one
[10:02] <tapo> hmmm :)
[10:03] <Drako60> i've had to force a few things into hoary and its not been a pleasant experiance
[10:03] <heatxsink> I'm confused, I downloaded the kernel source for the kernel i'm running
[10:03] <heatxsink> and I downloaded the kernel patch
[10:03] <tapo> confused, too.
[10:03] <nalioth> brb
[10:04] <tapo> http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/   has more info
[10:05] <Seveas> heatxsink, why would you want to compile your own kernel?
[10:05] <mrpickles> what is the apt get command to get mp3 support ?
[10:06] <heatxsink> because of the wlan-ng packages don't compile the pcmcia driverws
[10:06] <BobSagat> is that not included in the install?
[10:06] <Seveas> mrpickles: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[10:06] <heatxsink> so now i'm left to doing it myself
[10:06] <Seveas> heatxsink, ah ok
[10:06] <Seveas> heatxsink: You can find compilation instructions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[10:06] <heatxsink> cool
[10:06] <heatxsink> htanks
[10:06] <hamish> is there a default 'su' password?
[10:07] <Seveas> hamish: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:07] <heatxsink> perhaps I can make a dpkg to submit?
[10:07] <mauper> hamish: nope, du "sudo passwd" to set one
[10:07] <Seveas> mauper, do NOT advise that...
[10:07] <hamish> ok thanks :)
[10:07] <mrpickles> thanks
[10:07] <Seveas> hamish, please read that page
[10:07] <mauper> Seveas: why is that ? afraid of the dark ?
[10:07] <nalioth> !root
[10:07] <ubotu> from memory, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:07] <Seveas> setting a root password is not recommended on ubuntu
[10:07] <BobSagat> just do sudo su and it will prompt for your user password.
[10:07] <nalioth> hamish: read what ubotu said
[10:08] <hamish> ok
[10:08] <mauper> Seveas: and why is that ?
[10:08] <jamie_k> hi: can anyone help me add swsusp2 & recompile my kernel? not finding the online docs all that clear...
[10:08] <Seveas> mauper, it's just that Ubuntu by default uses the sudo model and in the chat you should rather point people to that than blindly telling them to set a root password
[10:08] <tapo> tnx, l8r
[10:09] <hamish> another question, i tried to change the screen resolution, but there is only one option?
[10:09] <mauper> Seveas: then one should say that sudo in general is a good idea ... but I wonder, if the default user has all sudo privileges, where is the point ?
[10:09] <Seveas> hamish:  find out how you can change your display's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:09] <Seveas> mauper, read that wiki page too, it contains a discussion about it :)
[10:09] <nalioth> mauper: sudo only lasts 5 minutes
[10:09] <hamish> ok i'll have a look
[10:10] <mauper> nalioth: 5 minutes should be enough ;)
[10:10] <Seveas> mauper, sudo eliminates the need for a root shell...
[10:10] <Seveas> (in most cases)
[10:10] <BobSagat> just dont type sudo before any commands that you dont understand. =)
[10:10] <Seveas> =)
[10:11] <jamie_k> Seveas: do you ever sleep? You seem to be always here...
[10:11] <Drako60> the worst thing i have found for getting fully supported is japanese
[10:11] <mauper> narf: what magic do I have to invoke to use my old rs232-mouse on my old box ? (never cared about, other distros made it work out of the box)
[10:11] <zyth> this is aggrivating, i can't unrar this file, I think because of the filenames
[10:11] <Seveas> mauper, set the mouse device to /dev/ttys0 in xorg.conf
[10:11] <norris> then rename it or use quotes zyth
[10:12] <mauper> Seveas: thnx
[10:12] <Seveas> or /dev/ttys1 if it is attached to com2
[10:12] <{Seb}> hi all
[10:12] <Seveas> ttyS1
[10:12] <mauper> I will figure out ...
[10:12] <Seveas> capital S
[10:12] <nalioth> jamie_k: he's a bot
[10:12] <zyth> norris,  no... the filenames of the extracted files
[10:12] <{Seb}> i've got an easy way to switch people to ubuntu
[10:12] <jamie_k> nalioth: i had that impression
[10:12] <{Seb}> just tell them to look at http://www.crackman.de/newtenlightment/movies/ballmer/dancemonkeyboy.mpeg
[10:12] <{Seb}> this man is running their company?
[10:12] <nalioth> jamie_k: extremely experiemental AI (running on a 12-Cell cluster)
[10:12] <Seveas> jamie_k, swsusp is included in the hoary kernel...
[10:12] <JanC> zyth : if it's a RAR 3.x  archive, you need the "unfree" version or (un)rar
[10:13] <jamie_k> Seveas: really?
[10:13] <zyth> JanC, ahhh, ok, where's that?
[10:13] <Seveas> jamie_k, yes, the hibernate option from the logout menu uses it...
[10:13] <jamie_k> Seveas: right.
[10:13] <JanC> you can install it in synaptic
[10:13] <zyth> got it
[10:13] <Seveas> unrar-nonfree is in multiverse iirc
[10:13] <zyth> thanks JanC
[10:13] <JanC> "unrar-nonfree"
[10:13] <nalioth> Seveas: how many teraflops does the 12-Cell cluster you run on put out?
[10:14] <Seveas> JanC, :)
[10:14] <nalioth> :P
[10:14] <jamie_k> Seveas: no make-ing for me then hmm
[10:14] <zyth> Oh that worked SO much better
[10:14] <Seveas> nalioth, you must be mistaken, I do not run on a 12-Cell cluster but on an experimental FPGA / microthreaded alpha testbed
[10:14] <JanC> and it's in multiverse like Seveas said  :)
[10:15] <nalioth> Seveas: coulda sworn there was 12 of em involved
[10:15] <Drako60> oh well i guess i can deal without UTF-16 for now, UTF-8 has been working, though there are some things i could use UTF-16 support for
[10:16] <diego> is there a way i can figure out how many ram slots are in use via software?
[10:16] <nalioth> diego: just the software connected to your cornea
[10:17] <cwillu> Is there an accelerated graphics driver for the i815 chipset?
[10:17] <nalioth> brb
[10:17] <diego> nalioth: damn
[10:17] <Seveas> nalioth, afaik ther IS a way
[10:17] <jamie_k> Seveas: running 'hibernate' still evokes a claim that 'your kernel does not have
[10:17] <Seveas> diego, yes there is a way :)
[10:17] <jamie_k> Seveas: '...software suspend 2 support...'
[10:17] <Seveas> diego, sudo lshw
[10:17] <Seveas> jamie_k, do you have kernel 2.6.10-5 ..?
[10:18] <Seveas> diego, you might want to pipe it to less :)
[10:18] <Seveas> but it WILL show whether a memory slot is occupied
[10:18] <diego> Seveas: oh my word heh
[10:18] <jamie_k> Seveas, I installed off the latest binaries
[10:19] <Seveas> jamie_k, the output of uname -a might be helpful (type /exec -o uname -a in this window if you use xchat)
[10:19] <cwillu> is there such a thing as an accelerated video driver for an intel 815?
[10:19] <jamie_k> Linux 0th3r 2.6.10-5-686 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:27:02 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:19] <nalioth> Seveas: you know everything
[10:19] <Seveas> jamie_k, that one definitely has swsusp built into it
[10:19] <niall> Can someone help me make tvtime or kaffeine detect my DVB card?
[10:19] <jamie_k> Seveas, then odd that 'hibernate' would not run
[10:20] <mauper> hmmm, xorg.conf, device bla, ttyS0, ttyS1 ... doesn't work ... what protocol should I use ?
[10:20] <jamie_k> Seveas, and would give that msg
[10:20] <Seveas> jamie_k, maybe you need to install the one from hoary-security...
[10:20] <ttyS0> i don't work. aaaaaa :)
[10:20] <jamie_k> Seveas, how would I got about that?
[10:20] <Seveas> jamie_k, enable the hoary-security and hoary-updates repositories
[10:20] <nalioth> Seveas: i just ran that w/o sudo, what's the diff?
[10:20] <jamie_k> Seveas, I think I have Security available in my sources.list
[10:21] <Seveas> nalioth, ENOIDEA, it's just that the progeam says: "WARNING: you should run this as root"
[10:21] <Seveas> jamie_k, odd, since you don't have the latest kernel...
[10:21] <nalioth> Seveas: hmm i got a buttload of readable output re my system w/o sudo
[10:21] <Seveas> jamie_k: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[10:21] <jamie_k> Seveas: okay
[10:21] <Seveas> nalioth, yeah /me too :)
[10:21] <mauper> argh ... want mouse now ... hate X config ... will google now ;)
[10:22] <cwillu> video drivers?
[10:22] <cwillu> help?
[10:22] <cwillu> no?
[10:22] <Seveas> cwillu, afaik not...
[10:22] <cwillu> okay
[10:22] <hamish> same problem i think...
[10:22] <Seveas> mauper, ttyS0 / S1 didn't work..?
[10:23] <Seveas> (you know you should restart X to make these changes work?)
[10:23] <nemik> i can't do the command: "more /proc/pci" but there is no pci in proc folder. i'm following instructions from here: http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=pos1R1002391&aid=7
[10:24] <jamie_k> Seveas: changed sources.list, updated, uninstalled, reinstalled, ran Hibernatre, same msg :-(
[10:24] <hamish> how do i stop 'X'?
[10:24] <Seveas> nemik, these instructions are extremely outdated...
[10:24] <Seveas> hamish, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:26] <nemik> seveas, do you recommend any newer ones?
[10:26] <mauper> Seveas: nope, didn't work, and yes, I restartet X (even rebooted, because of extreme laziness ...)
[10:27] <ratm> is it possible to install ubuntu without gnome BUT fluxbox?
[10:27] <Seveas> nemik, I don't really know what the instructions should tell you, I just know that /proc/pci got ditched a long time ago...
[10:27] <Seveas> ratm, yes
[10:27] <crimsun> ratm: sure. Do a server (minimal) install, then install x-window-system-core and fluxbox.
[10:28] <ratm> well, thats cool :D thanks!
[10:28] <Seveas> ratm, boot the install cd with the 'server' option and after the base install, use apt-get to install X and fluxbox
[10:28] <Seveas> ratm, the x-window-system package will be useful
[10:28] <ratm> of course it will ;)
[10:28] <tmorton> sdl-gfx1.2==which version of sdl_gfx?
[10:28] <ender_> what is dropline gnome?
[10:29] <tmorton> ender_, A version of Gnome for Slackware
[10:29] <crimsun> tmorton: read the top line of the changelog for the package.
[10:29] <jamie_k> Seveas: all my problems are really complicate, aren't they? :-(
[10:30] <Seveas> tmorton, apt-cache show libsdl-gfx1.2 will tell you that
[10:30] <tmorton> crimsun, I don't have ubuntu--it's just that someone reported a bug where there wasn't a sufficiant version of sdl_gfx installed, but I can't tell what version they have
[10:30] <hamish> su, password set?
[10:30] <hamish> sudo password, then?
[10:30] <jamie_k> but Seveas: I am writing up the solution I discovered to installing Ubuntu over a network with no optical disks or diskdrive without using a local server ;-)
[10:30] <crimsun> tmorton: then cross-reference packages.ubuntu.com
[10:30] <Seveas> jamie_k, well, swsupsp/hibernate never worked for me yet, so it's not just you :)
[10:31] <tmorton> crimsun, Thanks--I was looking for a page like that :)
[10:31] <Seveas> jamie_k, like wiki.ubuntu.com/LocalNetInstallHowto ?
[10:31] <nalioth> Seveas: i did a very technical thing: i ran lshw both ways and there are only 4 lines different in output (according to 'diff')
[10:31] <black_Nightmare> does ubuntu have iptables or could that be added?
[10:31] <jamie_k> Seveas: that howto got me nowhere for 12hrs heheh
[10:31] <nalioth> black_Nightmare: hang on a minim
[10:32] <Seveas> jamie_k, ah :) well, feel free to improve it, it's a wiki :)
[10:32] <ender_> Wow, I get 5-7 more FPS in Quake 3 running Ubuntu over Windows XP. Even better, I just finally have a linux box that I can use well enough to even run games. =) gg ubuntu!
[10:32] <nalioth> black_Nightmare: check this out http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[10:32] <Seveas> black_Nightmare, of course ubuntu has iptables :)
[10:32] <FLD> http://koti.mbnet.fi/fld/DDR.mp3 hear this!
[10:32] <FLD> :D
[10:32] <FLD> it was mabe with ubuntu ;)
[10:33] <FLD> nowyou must hear it
[10:33] <jamie_k> Seveas, actually the install I used was really interesting: put minimal Grub components + kernel straight into C: and let it nuke the XP install
[10:33] <hamish> hamish@Laptop:~$ sudo password
[10:33] <hamish> Password:
[10:33] <hamish> sudo: password: command not found
[10:33] <jsilva> hi
[10:33] <jsilva> somebody speaks spanish?
[10:33] <nalioth> jsilva: in #ubuntu-es
[10:33] <muttDC> no, no hablo castellano
[10:33] <jsilva> ah...
[10:34] <jsilva> thanks a lot
[10:34] <black_Nightmare> seveas..hmm ty
[10:34] <black_Nightmare> just curious but any of you heard of any problem with ubuntu and macintosh graphic cards?
[10:35] <pietro_spina> hamish: are you trying to type "passwd"?
[10:35] <hamish> no idea...
[10:36] <muttDC> sudo -s
[10:36] <black_Nightmare> guess not perhaps
[10:36] <muttDC> =\
[10:36] <hamish> lol
[10:36] <hamish> thanks :)] 
[10:36] <pietro_spina> hamish: trying to change your password?
[10:37] <mauper> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org did the trick (maybe it's too late for using vi - yawn)
[10:37] <mauper> thnx anyway
[10:39] <ender_> is /usr/local/src a good place to put all the tarballs I download for software not included in ubuntu? various apps, qstat for example..
[10:40] <mauper> btw: I never really liked shorewall and I wonder why ubuntu doesn't come with firestarter preinstalled, I think it is nice and comprehensive
[10:40] <anouar> hallo
[10:40] <jamie_k> Seveas: anyway, say I  patched my kernel with this module, how would I then rebuild it?
[10:41] <jh0n> if i have framebuffer support, i should have /dev/fb0, correct?
[10:41] <Seveas> jamie_k, with make-kpkg
[10:41] <Seveas> jamie_k: You can find compilation instructions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[10:41] <Kyral> hmmm
[10:41] <Seveas> jh0n, probably you would
[10:42] <Kyral> could you, in theory, change from a Debian Install to an Ubuntu Install and vice versa just by changing your sources.list and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:42] <Seveas> Kyral, not really
[10:42] <mauper> Kyral: just on instinct: I'd say no ;)
[10:42] <yahalom> can anyone here give me a good news group? news.bla blah.com
[10:43] <ender_> newbie question.. how do I set permissions so that I dont need sudo to play around in /usr/local?
[10:43] <Seveas> yahalom, news server you mean? supernews and giganews are good ones..
[10:43] <Seveas> ender_, you don't want to...
[10:43] <Seveas> not for the *complete* /usr/local at least
[10:43] <mauper> ender_: chown -R a+rwx * but you do not want to ;)
[10:43] <yahalom> Seveas, news.supernews.com?
[10:44] <Seveas> mauper, DO NOT give people crappy advise....
[10:44] <mauper> er chmod that is
[10:44] <Kyral> Seveas: If I risk my system to experiment, can I get voice in here? j/k :P
[10:44] <Seveas> yahalom, yes...
[10:44] <yahalom> Seveas, thanx man :)
[10:44] <mauper> Seveas: wouldn't have worked anyway
[10:45] <Seveas> mauper, yeah well, but giving people crappy advise is really not done over here. Just explaining why they shouldn't do this kind of things is better :)
[10:45] <ender_> then is there a way to use the file browser as root?
[10:45] <Seveas> ender_, again, you should not do this..
[10:45] <mauper> I disagree: answering the question and warning is better I think
[10:45] <Seveas> mauper, well, no, not if it can cause new users to easily wreck up their system
[10:45] <concept10> Seveas, I finally fixed my NTLDR.  Is there anyway to rewrite grub without a live CD.  I just have the x86 install CD
[10:46] <Seveas> concept10, I have been told that the install cd has the 'rescue' boot option....
[10:46] <yahalom> Seveas, Supernews handshake failed: 501 bad authentication ??
[10:46] <Seveas> yahalom, for both servers you need to pay for an account
[10:46] <mauper> Seveas: well, if you tell them that it might wreck, endanger ... whatever ... their system, it should be okay ...
[10:46] <Seveas> mauper, no
[10:47] <Seveas> they will try it anyway :)
[10:47] <yahalom> Seveas, u dont know any free ones that r good?
[10:47] <anouar> hi dudes
[10:47] <Seveas> yahalom, not really, I use supernews (my provider pays for it)
[10:47] <yahalom> Seveas, ah ok thanx :)
[10:47] <Seveas> hi anouar
[10:47] <ender_> ok, it's just that I read this..
[10:47] <ender_> /usr/local and its subdirectories are used for the installation of software and other files for use on the local machine. What this really means is that software that is not part of the official distribution (which usually goes in /usr/bin) goes here.
[10:47] <ender_> When you find interesting programs to install on your system, they should be installed in one of the /usr/local directories. Most often, the directory of choice is /usr/local/bin. On Red Hat systems, the /usr/local directories are created but they are empty, ready for your use.
[10:48] <Seveas> ender_, yes, if you install things with ./configure; make; make install, they go there
[10:49] <ender_> Seveas: you still have to install as root though right? or else wont I have problems with permissions?
[10:50] <Seveas> indeed
[10:50] <jo> i have logitech web cam 4000 pro witch driver to instal in gentoo its pwc
[10:50] <ender_> ok, that clears things up. thanks.
[10:50] <Seveas> and you really want to install as root/with sudo :)
[10:50] <jo> how i gt it in urbuntu
[10:51] <ender_> right.. "sudo ./configure" "sudo make" etc..
[10:51] <ender_> =)
[10:51] <Seveas> ender_, no
[10:51] <ender_> no?
[10:51] <ender_> lol
[10:51] <Seveas> you use sudo only with make install
[10:51] <Seveas> ./configure
[10:51] <Seveas> make
[10:51] <Seveas> sudo make install
[10:51] <Seveas> or even better:
[10:51] <Seveas> sudo checkinstall
[10:51] <Seveas> that will create a .deb file you can install with dpkg -i
[10:52] <ender_> hmm, what files do you checkinstall?
[10:52] <jo> andt wy there is only v4l2
[10:52] <jo> andt not 1
[10:52] <nalioth> ender_: you use checkinstall instead of "make install"
[10:53] <ender_> oh ok
[10:54] <thomerz> hi, is there a way to geht my kde/qt apps look like gnome apps in gnome? like it is done in fedora?
[10:54] <thomerz> geht = get
[10:54] <FLD> how do i see how much takes /etc space
[10:54] <FLD> and all subdirs
[10:54] <mauper> FLD: du /etc
[10:54] <HavoK> thomerz: you could use bluecurve both in kde and gnome
[10:55] <FLD> mauper does not work
[10:55] <mauper> ?
[10:55] <FLD> it says all dirs diffrently
[10:55] <FLD> i want output 1 row
[10:55] <FLD> and in gigabytes
[10:55] <FLD> :(
[10:55] <mauper> should be the last row of the output ?
[10:55] <thomerz> yes but i still have the ugly kde open/save dialog HavoK
[10:55] <HavoK> o you could use gtk2-engines-gtk-qt.. the gtk theme is like the qt one
[10:55] <mikas> FLD, du -hs /etc
[10:55] <Xenguy> FLD: du -ch /etc
[10:55] <FLD> ok
[10:56] <Xenguy> FLD: or just 'man du' and find the options you prefer
[10:56] <HavoK> thomerz: hmmm
[10:56] <mauper> seems like du comes in different flavors ;)
[10:56] <HavoK> thomerz: you can't replace that, i think =)
[10:56] <FLD> kk kkk kk
[10:56] <FLD> :D
[10:57] <thomerz> i have seen it in fedora at a schoolmates notebook, they have done it nicely
[10:57] <thomerz> al apps have the same dialogues, icons, etc HavoK
[10:57] <Shepherd> hello all.
[10:57] <hondje> bluecurve
[10:58] <HavoK> thomerz: no idea
[10:58] <hondje> ironically when they started doing that, a lot of people were pissed off :)
[10:58] <Shepherd> I'm having difficulty getting sounds working with another user on this system. Dag meneer hondje!
[10:59] <thomerz> hmmm can be, but i would like to have only 1 theme for al kinds of apps hondje
[10:59] <Shepherd> I've made sure that ESD is running, that all users are in the sound group, and checked the following link:
[10:59] <Seveas> thomerz, gtconfig might help...
[11:00] <Shepherd> hmm. can't find it but it's a forum about sound written by a french person.
[11:00] <abs> hello all, im back, with maya running nicley, just wondering, does anyone know how to desable the easy_click function, i mean the alt+ left mouse button, as this interferes with maya's function
[11:00] <Seveas> Shepherd, are you trying to let 2 users use the sound server simultaneously?
[11:00] <Shepherd> not simultaneously, only when I log off and let my roommate log on.
[11:00] <Shepherd> he can't get sound.
[11:01] <Shepherd> I'm on that account now.
[11:01] <Seveas> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[11:01] <Seveas> that might help
[11:01] <thomerz> sure it is gtconfig Seveas? can't find it
[11:01] <Shepherd> Seveas: okay. I think I looked at that one the other day but I'll make sure right quick.
[11:01] <Seveas> thomerz, qtconfig
[11:02] <Seveas> sorry :)
[11:02] <thomerz> ahh :>
[11:02] <thomerz> but there is no bluecurve to choose in there Seveas :/
[11:03] <thomerz> although i have installed kde-theme-bluecurve
[11:03] <Seveas> thomerz, maybe you should install it, i wouldn't know, I refuse to install KDE/QT related things :)
[11:04] <thomerz> yeah i don't like them too, but i like to use kdevelop and quanta :/
[11:04] <ushooz> Anjunta and NVU are decent replacements for those thomerz  :)
[11:05] <Seveas> vim too ;)
[11:05] <ushooz> kdevelop is nice though
[11:06] <neoeno> hello ubuntu and anyone who randomly decided to see what xchat was
[11:07] <thomerz> yes, but i think it should be possible to make all apps look the same, because they have it in fedora :/
[11:08] <Seveas> then go find out how they did it :)
[11:08] <lsuactiafner> bleh
[11:08] <lsuactiafner> am bored
[11:08] <thomerz> they have bluecurve
[11:08] <thomerz> but i don't get bluecurve running with my kde apps :/
[11:09] <hondje> install the blue curve theme for kde and gnome
[11:09] <hondje> voila!
[11:09] <ushooz> get bluecurve theme for QT and GTK 1.x and 2.x
[11:09] <thomerz> yes, and how i change the kde theme to bluecurve?
[11:09] <HavoK> thomerz: kcontrol
[11:10] <poningru> ok read the readme.debian for apt-build
[11:10] <poningru> Rebuilding the world:
[11:10] <poningru> You must create a package list.
[11:10] <poningru> The simplest way to do it, is to run:
[11:10] <poningru> dpkg --get-selections | awk '{if ($2=="install") print $1}' > /etc/apt/apt-build.list
[11:10] <poningru> You should edit this file to remove some packages like gcc, etc...
[11:10] <poningru> Note that rebuild all packages is still experimental and can break
[11:10] <poningru> your system.
[11:10] <poningru> sorry for the flood
[11:10] <HavoK> +q?
[11:11] <Seveas> +q = silent
[11:11] <Seveas> he cannot flood any more...
[11:11] <lsuactiafner> heh
[11:11] <HavoK> ah =)
[11:11] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : i keep getting +q everywhere lol
[11:11] <HavoK> something like a personal +m
[11:11] <lsuactiafner> 1st time ive seen someone else get it
[11:12] <Seveas> what?
[11:12] <Seveas> :p
[11:12] <lsuactiafner> rofl
[11:12] <Seveas> (sorry, no more playing)
[11:12] <lsuactiafner> ubotu : tell Seveas about sex
[11:12] <poningru> ok real question
[11:12] <Shepherd> Seveas: do you know where to find the totem configuration file?
[11:12] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, nobody needs to tell me about that :)
[11:12] <lsuactiafner> lol
[11:13] <yahalom> Seveas, when i do a whois on an ip and it gives me person: Johny Depp lets say. Who is this? The user? or the name of the isp manager?
[11:13] <Seveas> yahalom, the ISP contact
[11:13] <lsuactiafner> name of isp manager unless some guy got his own static ip
[11:13] <poningru> it says permission denied
[11:13] <poningru> to build that file
[11:13] <yahalom> ah ok cool
[11:13] <poningru> err makefile the file
[11:13] <Shepherd> Seveas: do you know where to find the totem configuration file?
[11:13] <Seveas> poningru, then do it as root
[11:14] <poningru> did it as sudo
[11:14] <yahalom> Seveas, anyway i can do a trace on an ip?
[11:14] <poningru> still gives the same error
[11:14] <Seveas> or with command | sudo tail
[11:14] <to0om> hi, i'm trying to get the bluecurve theme running under kde
[11:14] <Seveas> the redirect will not be done as root
[11:14] <to0om> i'm using gnome, but i want the kde apps look like the gnome apps
[11:14] <Seveas> yahalom, not to personal data of the person behind that connection...
[11:14] <topyli> Shepherd: it's in ~/.gnome2
[11:15] <yahalom> Seveas, no. to see which path he travels to get to me.
[11:15] <to0om> i've already installed the kde-theme-bluecurve package, but it doesnt' work. i can't select the bluecurve theme neither under qtconfig nor under kcontrol
[11:15] <Seveas> yahalom, aha, install mtr :)
[11:15] <to0om> under gnome, it works with the redhat-artwork package
[11:15] <to0om> anybody an idea?
[11:16] <yahalom> Seveas, it removed ubuntu-base
[11:16] <Seveas> yahalom, meuh?
[11:16] <Seveas> I have it installed along with ubuntu-base, that is odd
[11:16] <yahalom> Seveas, if i install mtr it removes ubuntu base
[11:16] <Shepherd> topyli: I didn't see it. there was a totem.pls file and a totem-addons
[11:16] <yahalom> Seveas, i have mtr-tiny
[11:17] <Seveas> yahalom, are you mixing up sources..?
[11:17] <yahalom> Seveas, not that i know of. will  mtr tiny do it?
[11:17] <poningru> ok got it the root terminal worked
[11:17] <poningru> thanks
[11:17] <Seveas> yahalom, oops, yes i have that installed too
[11:18] <Seveas> yahalom, still, the command is mtr :)
[11:18] <topyli> Shepherd: ihave ~/.gnome2/totem_config. perhaps you haven't changed anything so a file hasn't been created?
[11:18] <yahalom> Seveas, what app do i use to scan him?
[11:18] <Seveas> yahalom, mtr his_ip
[11:18] <to0om> hondje, how have you installed the bluecurve theme for kde?
[11:18] <yahalom> Seveas, i did. really cool
[11:19] <dasa> hi everyone...anybody has an idea how i could enable OpenGL acceleration on my PowerbookG4(ATI radeon 9600) running Ubuntu Linux
[11:19] <Shepherd> topyli: hmm. interesting . . . I'll try modifying it using the windowy interface and see if it makes one.
[11:19] <confrey> why can't I use my pcmcia slot?
[11:19] <nalioth> dasa: you should already have it
[11:19] <yahalom> Seveas, thanx
[11:19] <nalioth> dasa: have you run 'glsgears'?
[11:19] <dasa> ohh ok
[11:20] <dasa> i ll give it a try..right now
[11:20] <niran> dasa, glxinfo | grep rendering
[11:20] <dasa> wow ok
[11:20] <nalioth> dasa: that is "glxgears" i cant type today
[11:20] <thomerz> ushooz get bluecurve theme for QT and GTK 1.x and 2.x <- where do i get them for kde? i only found a .deb file, but i cant load this into kcontrol
[11:21] <zenlunatic> how do i make movie links open up with vlc?
[11:21] <dasa> i just ran glxinfo and 'direct rendering' is set to no
[11:21] <dasa> i ll try and apt-get glxgears
[11:22] <Seveas> nalioth, don't you need linux-restricted-modules and some xorg.conf tweaking on PPC?
[11:22] <tim> does nautilus burn iso's to DVD's?
[11:22] <poningru> anyone know what stuff to remove from the apt-build.list
[11:22] <dasa> yeah..fglrx but no support for ppc i think
[11:22] <poningru> ?
[11:22] <Shepherd> topyli: also the fuser command doesn't seem to be working. Should I get feedback from fuser /dev/dsp?
[11:22] <nalioth> Seveas: mine ran out of the box
[11:23] <poningru> tim: if you have that lib
[11:23] <poningru> look under /var/lib
[11:23] <poningru> iirc
[11:23] <nalioth> tim: nautilus burns nothing well
[11:23] <poningru> also I would do a apt-get for either K3b
[11:23] <diego> nalioth: bs, it burns CD iso's fine
[11:23] <poningru> or gnome burner
[11:23] <tim> gnome baker?
[11:23] <poningru> I would use K#B
[11:24] <poningru> err K3B
[11:24] <nalioth> diego: to each their own. i've never had any luck with it
[11:24] <Shepherd> topyli: actually I'm not sure I'm using Hoary. Could I still be using Warty or are they the same thing (noob question I know . . . )
[11:24] <topyli> Shepherd: dunno about fuser
[11:24] <dasa> yeah direct rendering is set to no..if you have any ideas please let me know
[11:24] <poningru> tim: yeah gnome baker
[11:24] <poningru> its a cd/dvd burner
[11:24] <dasa> i have ATI Radeon 9600
[11:24] <Seveas> Shepherd, type 'cat /etc/issue' in a shell to be sure :)
[11:24] <topyli> Shepherd: cat /etc/lsb-release
[11:25] <nalioth> dasa: you didnt ask about direct rendering, you asked about opengl acceleration (i don't know the difference)
[11:25] <nalioth> dasa: i DO know glxgears works on my ibook here
[11:25] <nalioth> brb
[11:26] <dasa> sorry i though that was the same thing
[11:26] <poningru> so anyone know what exactly to remove from the apt-build.list
[11:26] <confrey> why can't I use my pcmcia slot?
[11:26] <dasa> glxgears works here aswell..but when i run a screensaver things start to crash
[11:26] <poningru> remove some packages like gcc, etc...
[11:26] <dasa> or when i try to play a dvd
[11:26] <Seveas>  poningru everything :)
[11:26] <poningru> thats the only instruction it gives
[11:26] <poningru> rofl
[11:26] <Seveas> it's quite pointless to rebuild all packages...
[11:27] <Seveas> Ubuntu is not gentoo...
[11:27] <poningru> well I want to do everything in this thing
[11:27] <dasa> nalioth what did you set on the device driver in xorg.conf
[11:27] <dasa> i've got ati as the driver at the moment
[11:27] <poningru> like literaly(sp?) everything
[11:28] <poningru> I wanna see what breaks this thing
[11:28] <nalioth> dasa: i didnt, this is a straight out of the box install
[11:28] <poningru> I wanna learn
[11:28] <Seveas> poningru, well, installing Breezy will break it :)
[11:28] <poningru> rofl
[11:28] <poningru> so true
[11:28] <dasa> oh ok
[11:28] <Seveas> apt-build'ing hoary completely will not...
[11:28] <Seveas> you'll just waste your time :)
[11:29] <poningru> well I am not trying to break it
[11:29] <poningru> I am trying to make it better
[11:29] <poningru> and see what breaks in the process
[11:29] <zenlunatic> how do i make vlc open the video streams off epiphany?
[11:30] <Seveas> you won't make it perform better by recompiling everything...
[11:32] <ep> Just installed ubuntu two minutes ago.  I may redo.  I'm a KDE user -- do ya'll recomend going with kubuntu or just installing ubuntu and apt-getting the KDE desktop?
[11:32] <jayparadise> what is the location of the kernel header files?
[11:32] <lsuactiafner> jayparadise : should be /usr/src/
[11:32] <Seveas> ep, if you apt-get install kubuntu-desktop you will have the equivalent of kubuntu :)
[11:32] <ep> ok thanks
[11:32] <Seveas> jayparadise, /usr/src/linux-$(uname -r)
[11:33] <Seveas> jayparadise, if you installed them of course..
[11:33] <unome> Kubuntu is a virus, it's spreading very fast :P
[11:34] <Seveas> unome, ???
[11:34] <unome> just kidding
[11:34] <jayparadise> how can i install them?
[11:34] <jayparadise> i need to for vmware
[11:34] <confrey> why can't I use my pcmcia slot?
[11:35] <Seveas> jayparadise, sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:35] <cyrain> greetings
[11:35] <cyrain> I got a little pb with my setup
[11:35] <Shepherd> topyli: 4.10 warty . . . is that up to speed?
[11:35] <cyrain> pb :
[11:36] <gek> hi, i have some .m4a video files with aac audio in them. i can play them with noatun and totem, but i cant get any sound, any ideas? i have libfaad installed
[11:36] <cyrain> in the gui, I go to System and try to run the admin tasks liek user admin, it asks me a passwd
[11:36] <gek> totem-xine that is, totem-gstreamer gives me bad ghosting
[11:36] <Shepherd> topyli: man this is baffling . . . everything should be working.
[11:36] <Seveas>  /faq gek restricted
[11:36] <Seveas> gek: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[11:36] <gek> yeah ive read it
[11:36] <Seveas> damn, stupid spacebar :)
[11:36] <gek> i have w32codec and all that installed
[11:36] <Seveas> cyrain, use *your* password
[11:36] <Seveas> cyrain: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:36] <jayparadise> thanks saves
[11:36] <cyrain> oups sorry
[11:37] <cyrain> I'm a beginner or irc
[11:37] <cyrain> aw no
[11:37] <cyrain> ok for ubuntu
[11:37] <cyrain> I did so
[11:37] <Seveas> Shepherd, warty is the old release of Ubuntu, Hoary is the latest..
[11:37] <cyrain> give him my passwd
[11:37] <Shepherd> well, crap.
[11:37] <cyrain> doesnt want to
[11:37] <Shepherd> Seveas: how do I update ??
[11:37] <Seveas> Shepherd: One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[11:37] <cyrain> if I run a term and swicth to root
[11:37] <cyrain> and run the task -> ok
[11:37] <Shepherd> Seveas: awesome
[11:38] <Seveas> Shepherd, be warned, it will have to download at least 450 MB and need a while to upgrade...
[11:38] <ep> 2nd question,  I do a little 3d gaming so I'm thinking I'd like to upgrade the kernel to something optimized for the Athlon K7.  Can I do this and still be stable?  If so I'd like to do it before i tackle the Nvidia drivers:)
[11:38] <Seveas> and you will need to reboot afterwards (new kernel)
[11:38] <Shepherd> Saveas: that's fine.
[11:38] <Shepherd> ok
[11:38] <Shepherd> cool.
[11:38] <Seveas> cyrain, what is the error you get..?
[11:38] <cyrain> none
[11:38] <kdp> ep: i think the nvidia drivers are bundled in the kernel?  and yes, if you get the one with the ubuntu logo next to it it should be stable
[11:38] <Shepherd> Seveas: if I had to install sound modules and such will they be uninstalled when I reboot? OR is there no way of knowing?
[11:39] <Seveas> ep, yes, just install linux-k7 (k7-tuned nvidia drivels will be installed with it)
[11:39] <Seveas> Shepherd, depends on what you mean with install
[11:39] <cyrain> a second
[11:39] <cyrain> Child terminated with  1 status
[11:39] <cyrain> idem if I input wrong passwd
[11:39] <Shepherd> um, I had to do modprobe snd-cd4236 and then later I had to put it in init.d I think.
[11:40] <Shepherd> actually can't remember where I put it.
[11:40] <ep> too cool, by "install linux-k7" what do u mean?  apt-get?
[11:40] <Seveas> Shepherd, probably in /etc/modules
[11:40] <Seveas> Shepherd, and that will be preserves
[11:40] <Seveas> preserved*
[11:40] <lleberg> This ain't good at all, my ubuntu-computer won't boot up :(
[11:40] <Seveas> ep, yes
[11:40] <Seveas> sudo apt-get install linux-k7
[11:40] <Shepherd> Seveas: I can check right quick. Oh cool.
[11:40] <confrey> why can't I use my pcmcia slot? why don't anybody help me? am I alone with a laptop?
[11:41] <Seveas> confrey, odd, on my laptops the pcmcia slots work..
[11:41] <Seveas> confrey, type lsmod | grep yenta
[11:41] <Seveas> does that give any output?
[11:41] <unome> ep, you'll want to check your grub after you install linux-k7 and before you reboot
[11:41] <Seveas> lleberg, what is the error?
[11:41] <confrey> Seveas, yes, yenta-socket is loaded
[11:41] <topyli> Shepherd: warty is still supported and will be for a good while still
[11:41] <Seveas> confrey, are you sure it is the pcmcia slot then and not the card?
[11:41] <jayparadise> cool just got it to work with the path /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/include
[11:41] <Shepherd> thanks seveas.
[11:42] <Shepherd> i'm going now. I really appreciate the help.
[11:42] <ep> unome ok check grub for what?
[11:42] <Seveas> yw :)
[11:42] <confrey> Seveas, I have a cf2pcmcia adapter; it's working in windowsxp, not in hoary
[11:42] <jayparadise> yea thanks Seveas
[11:42] <unome> ep: for what will be there
[11:42] <lleberg> Seveas: cmos check error or whatever it said
[11:42] <jayparadise> coldnt have done it without you
[11:42] <lleberg> Seveas: But that's fixed
[11:42] <Seveas> ep, check /boot/grub/menu.lst and maybe point it to te new kernel to be the default
[11:42] <lleberg> Seveas: And now it won't even go to bios..
[11:42] <ep> gotcha
[11:42] <Seveas> lleberg, that's a BIOS problem, not an Ubuntu problem
[11:43] <lleberg> Seveas: I know .P
[11:43] <unome> ep: last time I installed linux-k7 my windoz entry disapeared from grub and I had to put back there
[11:43] <lleberg> sry
[11:43] <jayparadise> im used to vmware on windos hope i dont run into any problems on here
[11:43] <Seveas> confrey, odd, I have the same piece of equipment and it works fine...
[11:43] <Seveas> unome, then you had put inside the automagic kernel list
[11:43] <jayparadise> id like to put a picture on the grubloader, but i can find documentation for that
[11:43] <unome> yes sir
[11:43] <Seveas> Never put anything inside there yourself
[11:44] <cyrain> So, what's the pb with the admin gui commands ?
[11:44] <Seveas> cyrain, try on the command-line: gksudo synaptic
[11:44] <cyrain> cat .xsession-errors says nothing
[11:44] <unome> Seveas: why not
[11:44] <Seveas> and see what error it gives
[11:44] <jayparadise> does linux get anyone else get too used to using tab in linux and use it to complete words while typing?
[11:44] <jayparadise> lol i'm starting to do that
[11:44] <Seveas> unome, that will be rewritten every time there is a kernel update...
[11:44] <unome> ah ok
[11:44] <Seveas> jayparadise, yeah, me too :)
[11:44] <flugh> is there some way to specify the pci-id X tries to use. it seems to insist on using my onboard video device (it's disabled in the BIOS) rather than my pci video card
[11:45] <jayparadise> thatd be cool if they could make a program that does that
[11:45] <Seveas> flugh, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:45] <gek> the restricted formats page dosnt even mention m4a files, but i imagine since it says the audio is aac, i should get audio with totem-gstreamer + gstreamer-faad, but nothing :(
[11:45] <cyrain> I went root and launched the commadn ok
[11:45] <Seveas> gek, maybe gstreamer doesn't use ESD on your system?
[11:45] <cyrain> I can update my packages
[11:45] <Seveas> cyrain, did you launch it from a normal terminal or a root terminal?
[11:46] <flugh> i can edit xorg.conf easy enough, but i'v been trying live-cd versions of ubuntu and others, and it's the same everytime with ubuntu stuff (fedora stuff doesn't though. hmm...)
[11:46] <Seveas> vurdak, please torn that off in here
[11:46] <cyrain> I went root with su
[11:46] <joh> 23:44 < Seveas> and see what error it gives
[11:46] <Seveas> cyrain, why..?
[11:46] <joh> 23:44 < jayparadise> does linux get anyone else get too used to using tab in linux and use it to complete words while typing?
[11:46] <flugh> just thought there may be a 'proper, right way' to do it :)
[11:46] <joh> 23:44 < jayparadise> does linux get anyone else get too used to using tab in linux and use it to complete words while typing?
[11:46] <joh> )
[11:46] <joh> 23:45 -!- apokryphos7 [~dw@host-84-9-33-244.bulldogdsl.com]  has joined #ubuntu
[11:46] <joh> )
[11:46] <cyrain> then retried directly with mly account
[11:46] <cyrain> why -> to test as root ;)
[11:46] <vurdak> Seveas, it was a "/me i'm going to sleep"  in italian
[11:46] <vurdak> :D
[11:46] <Seveas> joh, NEVER do that again...
[11:46] <Seveas> vurdak, ah ok :)
[11:46] <gek> seveas, how would i check if its using esd?
[11:46] <vurdak> bye
[11:46] <cyrain> with my account,
[11:47] <vurdak> :D
[11:47] <cyrain> he says : sorry user cyrain
[11:47] <Seveas> vurdak, since you didn't say anything before, I assumed it was an autothing
[11:47] <Seveas> cyrain, aren't you in the sudoers list perhaps?
[11:47] <vurdak> np, Seveas :D
[11:47] <Seveas> Did you do a server install cyrain ?
[11:47] <cyrain> I played with a while ago
[11:47] <cyrain> no
[11:47] <cyrain> lemme check the sudoers file
[11:47] <Seveas> check your /etc/sudoers...
[11:48] <Seveas> lol :)
[11:48] <flugh> joh: don't feel bad. i once pasted about 108 lines of partition magic info about my hard drives to #postgresql one night. *doh* :)
[11:48] <cyrain> ok
[11:48] <cyrain> so I played with a while ago and as a sudoer, can launch /bin/mount
[11:48] <cyrain> /usr/bin/sudo
[11:48] <cyrain> and umount
[11:49] <keffo> hey guys, easiest way.. i have a (right its reiser) 40gb partition, on this partition i want to have a windows installation with some games (newer games that runs really really slow or not at all in cedega)
[11:49] <keffo> but i wanna keep everything else, like my other 4 linux partitions etc
[11:49] <Seveas> well, all menu entries use sudo, so if you want to use them , you must be able to run them with sudo :)
[11:49] <gek> esd is not running, could that be the problem
[11:49] <Seveas> gek, yes
[11:49] <Seveas> gstreamer should use esd by default
[11:49] <gek> i see
[11:49] <cyrain> hmm weird
[11:50] <gek> is esd gnome-specific, because i switched to xfce4
[11:50] <cyrain> my account have the privilege to run admin commands
[11:50] <cyrain> in the account properties
[11:50] <cyrain> but I'll give it a try
[11:50] <Seveas> gek, esd is ubuntu-specific. ESD will be ditched again for Breezy
[11:51] <d4rksh4de> Breezy is a kernel?
[11:51] <Seveas> (okay, that was not the complete truth, but I hope it will do)
[11:51] <unome> lol
[11:51] <Seveas> d4rksh4de, no, breezy will be the next release of Ubuntu
[11:51] <parabolize> esd is enlightenment. but many desktops use it.
[11:51] <d4rksh4de> ok
[11:52] <resiak> Seveas: Really? Thank _$DEITY_
[11:52] <cyrain> so
[11:52] <cyrain> added /usr/bin/users-admin
[11:52] <cyrain> and ran it -> idem
[11:52] <remyforbes777>   here is my problem, i have an old 233 mhz with 32MB ram, whenever i try to boot to gui it freezes right before the login screen, but i can boot it up without x fine,
[11:52] <gek> alright, so now the problem is either getting esd running somehow, or getting gstreamer to use something other than esd
[11:52] <cyrain> then issued sudo /usr/bin/users-admin
[11:52] <cyrain> and it worked
[11:52] <jo> hello i wont to have  apt-get install  glib
[11:52] <jo>  but wont install
[11:53] <cyrain> in gui, still fails
[11:53] <jo>  apt-get install  glib
[11:53] <jo> Reading package lists... Done
[11:53] <jo> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:53] <jo> E: Couldn't find package glib
[11:53] <gek> esd is definitely installed, along with gstreamer-esd
[11:53] <jo> ?
[11:53] <jo> hm
[11:53] <Seveas> jo do NOT! paste in here
[11:54] <ender_> anyone use qstat for gaming? I've having problems installing it. =(
[11:54] <Seveas> and use apt-cache search
[11:54] <jo> sorry
[11:54] <resiak> Seveas: Don't large large segments of Gnome use esd?
[11:54] <parabolize> resiak: yes
[11:54] <remyforbes777> any reason why my comupter is freezing right before the x login
[11:54] <d4rksh4de> ender_> whats gstat?
[11:55] <d4rksh4de> ender_> qstat*
[11:55] <resiak> parabolize: So how is esd going away in Breezy?
[11:55] <kdp> remyforbes777: probably b/c X needs more than 32 MB ram?
[11:55] <ep> ok i Installed linux-k7 and I've inspected /boot/grub/menu.1st and the windows entry is still listed.  How do i make sure this is pointed to the new kernel (before i reboot)?
[11:55] <ender_> it's to find quake3, halflife, etc servers in terminal
[11:55] <remyforbes777> thats what i figured
[11:55] <ender_> it cant install because..
[11:55] <parabolize> resiak: no idea. I don't see a reason why.
[11:56] <kdp> remyforbes777: X always uses around 150something on my machine
[11:56] <resiak> parabolize: Because esd sucks major ass?
[11:56] <remyforbes777> ahhhh
[11:56] <remyforbes777> kdp: any other alternatives
[11:56] <resiak> remyforbes777: Not using X?
[11:56] <Seveas> ep, you can do that while booting too ;)
[11:56] <kdp> doubt it.  i dont know, its the major thing.
[11:56] <gek> i tried removing esd in hopes it would force gstreamer to use another sound driver but no luck, then totem wont start and says "no reason given"
[11:56] <kdp> with the thing. for the thing.
[11:56] <Seveas> ep and it probably is already default
[11:56] <ender_> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[11:56] <ender_> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[11:56] <ender_> checking for gawk... no
[11:56] <ender_> checking for mawk... mawk
[11:56] <ender_> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[11:56] <ender_> checking for gcc... no
[11:56] <remyforbes777> resiak: no i am not
[11:56] <ender_> checking for cc... no
[11:57] <Seveas> ender_, DO NOT paste in here
[11:57] <resiak> remyforbes777: I'm saying don't use it.
[11:57] <ep> so just grab my socks and reboot?
[11:57] <Seveas> ep, yeah :)
[11:57] <remyforbes777> resiak: lol ok
[11:57] <ep> ok thanks
[11:57] <parabolize> resiak: works for me. But if somthing else works I wouldn't mind a change.
[11:57] <remyforbes777> resiak: im not using it right now
[11:57] <remyforbes777> resiak: strictly CLI
[11:57] <cyrain> ep -> look at the name of kernel
[11:57] <resiak> remyforbes777: Stay that way!
[11:57] <kdp> what is this !*@* syntax
[11:57] <Tatster> can someone help me please - how do I use a .patch file?
[11:57] <cyrain> it should match /boot/vmlinuz
[11:57] <remyforbes777> resiak: why is that
[11:57] <flankk> anyone tried ubuntu from the repositories?
[11:57] <Seveas> Tatster, man patch
[11:57] <paulproteus> Tatster: Talk to me about the patch file.
[11:57] <resiak> parabolize: ALSA and dmix. Done!
[11:57] <cyrain> or alink
[11:58] <resiak> remyforbes777: Because you can't run X with 32MB ram? :)
[11:58] <paulproteus> Tatster: What program are you patching?  What is the URL to the patch.
[11:58] <flankk> anyone tried fluxbox from the ubuntu repos? /is tired
[11:58] <remyforbes777> resiak: lol ok, i thought you were saying that for another reason
[11:58] <cyrain> Seveas, any other idea ?
[11:58] <paulproteus> I mean, "What is the URL for the patch file?  It would be most instructive if I could have a look at it."
[11:58] <Tatster> It is a patch file, http://www.thegillis.net/examples/mambo/gallery.mambo.sef.patch to do with Mambo CMS, Gallery and Search engine friendly URL's
[11:59] <paulproteus> Tatster: Do you know how to use the command line?
[11:59] <paulproteus> You need to "cd" into the directory of gallery.
[11:59] <paulproteus> That might be named "gallery-1.5.0" or just "gallery".
[11:59] <paulproteus> Tell me once you've done that, or ask for help.
[12:00] <Tatster> Im in the gallery directory
[12:00] <paulproteus> Do you have the patch file downloaded somewhere on your system?
[12:00] <paulproteus> If so, do this: