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| Mez | grr @ k3b | 02:22 |
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| opi | morning | 09:48 |
| uniq | morning opi. | 09:49 |
| JRe | good morning ! | 09:57 |
| uniq | hi jre. | 09:58 |
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| dholbach | hey | 10:10 |
| dholbach | just wanted to tell: i think we're going to switch to http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/index.py (explanation on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU) for reviews soon | 10:11 |
| dholbach | the world will be a better place afterwards :) | 10:11 |
| JRe | dholbach: cool :) | 10:15 |
| dholbach | yeah the wiki was a mess | 10:15 |
| dholbach | if you meet siretart, be sure to pay him a beer :) | 10:15 |
| JRe | dholbach: sure! moreover when there was many person in the same time doing a reviez :) | 10:15 |
| JRe | dholbach: i'll grat him on motu | 10:16 |
| dholbach | yeah and commenting was a pain | 10:16 |
| dholbach | it's still in development, but it'll rock in no time | 10:16 |
| JRe | dholbach: i am wainting with impatience for the lintian/linda/pbuilder automatic test :) | 10:17 |
| dholbach | haha, you should do that yourself at home already ;) | 10:18 |
| dholbach | bbl | 10:19 |
| JRe | dholbach: ;) | 10:20 |
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| JRe | allee, Riddell : kay v0.4.0 -> http://jr.falleri.free.fr/fichiers/devel/kay <- huge ameliorations | 10:35 |
| allee | JRe: morning | 10:35 |
| JRe | allee: morning :) | 10:36 |
| allee | JRe: I'll give kay 0.4 a try tonight | 10:36 |
| JRe | allee: i wait for your feedback! all that you have requested is in it! | 10:37 |
| allee | JRe: Whow! Pitty that I have to work for life first. | 10:39 |
| JRe | allee: lol | 10:40 |
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| uniq | riddell: ping. | 03:38 |
| Riddell | uniq: hi | 03:38 |
| uniq | i have kde 3.4.1 debs for amd64. | 03:39 |
| uniq | kdevelop is missing.. that's all. | 03:39 |
| Riddell | groovy | 03:39 |
| uniq | and i'm compiling kdepim hoary2 now. | 03:39 |
| uniq | to close 8221 | 03:39 |
| uniq | +# | 03:39 |
| uniq | i'm compiling from a livecd so it's -very- slow. | 03:40 |
| Riddell | well done | 03:40 |
| uniq | there are also updated ppc packages to close #8221 | 03:40 |
| uniq | if you just copy the diff from my repo and compile the i386 packages. we've closed it in all arches :) | 03:41 |
| uniq | it's all under http://frode.kde.no/hoary-updates/ | 03:43 |
| uniq | the amd64 packages are not tested, but it's buildt in a clean pbuilder setup. | 03:43 |
| uniq | i've also done some work on ipodslave. separating the header files into it's own package. didn't bother to make a package for each lib. it would be 3 packages with 2 files in each.. | 03:47 |
| uniq | got some more cleaning up to do before i publish that package.. though. | 03:48 |
| uniq | and i'm also looking at kio-apt but it don't know if we want it. it's just searching like apt-cache does.. and kynaptic already does that.. in a way. no options to install packages or anything. | 03:51 |
| uniq | might just get confusing to be able to do the same things 10 different places. | 03:52 |
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| Riddell | uniq: yes, kio-apt is wanted. I think kalyxo already packages | 04:43 |
| Riddell | uniq: poke me if I don't get round to looking at your amd64 and kdepim packages today, currently in the middle of hal fun | 04:43 |
| uniq | riddell: ok, i have kio-apt packaged already. just have to do some ubuntu spesific changes. make a patch to use packages.ubuntu.com instead of packages.debian.org, and remove some of the arches. etc. enjoy the hal fun. | 05:22 |
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| pef | hello | 05:38 |
| Riddell | hello pef | 05:39 |
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| Riddell | hello spierrel | 05:45 |
| spierrel | Hi... | 05:46 |
| spierrel | Oh... There is also, I find the time the work of Christian Marillat which needs to be available for kubuntu... | 05:47 |
| spierrel | The good thing is that I can ask him how he did the job (we live in the same city...) | 05:47 |
| Riddell | spierrel: I think backports may be doing Marillat stuff | 05:48 |
| spierrel | Yes, should be enough... | 05:48 |
| Riddell | maybe Mez knows | 05:49 |
| spierrel | Ok... | 05:49 |
| Mez | ...? | 05:49 |
| Riddell | Mez: is backports doing marillat? or was that just malitious rumours I heard? | 05:50 |
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| Mez | on fone | 05:51 |
| spierrel | ...:)) | 05:52 |
| JRe | lol | 05:52 |
| Mez | backports have taken a coouple of things from marillat and rebuilt for hoary... but thats all | 05:52 |
| JRe | Mez: what sort of things ? | 05:53 |
| Mez | acroread I think | 05:53 |
| Mez | I'm not too familiar with marillat | 05:54 |
| Mez | so you need to ask JohnDong not me | 05:54 |
| spierrel | Just a stupid question not to sleep dumb tonight: there are no binaries of breezy? Only the deb-src seems to work for me... | 05:54 |
| Riddell | spierrel: certainly are binaries | 05:54 |
| JRe | Mez: oki :) | 05:54 |
| spierrel | Riddell: May you give me your apt line for the binaries... | 05:54 |
| uniq | spierrel: depends on your architecture i guess. | 05:54 |
| spierrel | A i386 compatible... (PIV 2,4 Ghz - 1,5 Gb RAM)... | 05:55 |
| Riddell | deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted | 05:55 |
| Mez | why do you ask JRe? | 05:55 |
| spierrel | After, I have a G3 to compile for... | 05:56 |
| JRe | no because there is some packages of Marillat which have license issues IIRC | 05:56 |
| spierrel | Riddell: It works... | 05:56 |
| Mez | ah fair enough | 05:56 |
| Mez | well backports will have to be rebuilt anyways | 05:56 |
| Mez | for sdtuff to do with the buildd | 05:57 |
| spierrel | About the packages of Christian, some of them have issue and that's why they are not in the main stream... and the main servers... | 05:57 |
| JRe | that's why i thinked | 05:57 |
| JRe | s/why/what/ | 05:57 |
| spierrel | But they are plainly useful... For example the w32codecs... | 05:57 |
| Mez | w32codecs = in backports | 05:58 |
| spierrel | Good news! | 05:58 |
| JRe | ;) | 05:58 |
| spierrel | Ok... If it can be useful, I will check what is not done and tell you what I can work on... (kmldonkey, kmymoney2, kdissert...) | 05:59 |
| Mez | I think it might be in the hoary-extra actually | 05:59 |
| JRe | but w32codec can be in official ubuntu repo ? | 05:59 |
| Mez | ?? | 06:00 |
| JRe | IIRC on debian it's not on the official repo you have to add the personnal marillat website to get it | 06:00 |
| Mez | thats rtue about debian | 06:00 |
| spierrel | Mez, JRe: It should be checked (about w32codec) | 06:00 |
| JRe | because some of them are illegal | 06:00 |
| spierrel | JRe: Why illegal? | 06:00 |
| JRe | license | 06:00 |
| JRe | like the thing to read dvd i don't know if it's legal ;) | 06:01 |
| Mez | everything will be cecked... we still need to sort stuff out with TB and CC about Backports yet, we havent got things finalised properly | 06:01 |
| spierrel | JRe: It depens the place you live! We are French and it's legal for us... | 06:01 |
| JRe | spierrel: ok! | 06:01 |
| Mez | spierrel, hence multiverse :D | 06:01 |
| spierrel | But I agree with you if you live in the States or may be GB... | 06:02 |
| Mez | hence multiverse .... | 06:02 |
| Mez | *yawns*# | 06:02 |
| Mez | anyways ... | 06:02 |
| Mez | Im suire TB and CC will sort all this out with us :D | 06:02 |
| Mez | so... for now | 06:02 |
| Mez | to bed! | 06:02 |
| spierrel | Ok... Your version of kexi is quite old... I will install the source and build the last stable version (0.9)... | 06:02 |
| JRe | Mez: i am not worried to ;) | 06:02 |
| spierrel | Mez: where do you live? | 06:03 |
| Mez | UK | 06:03 |
| Mez | my gf is ere | 06:03 |
| spierrel | Ok... :)) | 06:03 |
| JRe | Mez: in shot you live where your girlfrien id ;) | 06:03 |
| JRe | s/id/is/ | 06:03 |
| JRe | s/shot/short/ | 06:03 |
| spierrel | I build the 0.9... | 06:04 |
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| Riddell | w32codecs isn't legal anywhere | 06:49 |
| JRe | Riddell: that's why i thinked | 07:03 |
| froud | anyone got any good documents on shell scripting with DCOP? | 07:04 |
| Riddell | froud: what do you want to do? | 07:04 |
| froud | learn DCOP | 07:06 |
| froud | I just discovered it :-) | 07:06 |
| JRe | how it's not reserved to shell script | 07:06 |
| JRe | you can also call it from a regular application | 07:06 |
| froud | so tought there may be some good docs to get me going | 07:06 |
| froud | JRe: that's my point I dont know what I can do with it :-) | 07:07 |
| JRe | froud: http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/dot/dcopiface/dcop-interface.html | 07:07 |
| JRe | to create an interface | 07:07 |
| JRe | http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-dcop/index.html?ca=dgr-kdeml01KDEDCOP | 07:07 |
| JRe | to use it ;) | 07:07 |
| froud | JRe: thanks dude | 07:08 |
| JRe | froud: you're welcome ;) | 07:08 |
| JRe | froud: after you can read some source code of app using dcop | 07:09 |
| JRe | froud: kdcop is a good start point ;) | 07:10 |
| JRe | (i am reading libkonq at the moment it's very educative!) | 07:11 |
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| elmo | Riddell: eh, why split out the mp3 thing? | 07:32 |
| Riddell | elmo: because we can't have mp3 in main | 07:32 |
| Riddell | previous builds didn't have mp3 decoding at all, which is complained about a lot | 07:34 |
| elmo | Riddell: says who? | 07:34 |
| elmo | there's existing precedent for mp3 in main | 07:34 |
| elmo | decode, obviously | 07:34 |
| Riddell | elmo: mdz | 07:34 |
| Riddell | same reason we have akode-mpeg package | 07:35 |
| pef | Should I use debhelper or cdbs to build packages for kubuntu ? Some people advise me to use cdbs, what's your point of view ? | 07:36 |
| Riddell | pef: personal prefernece. cdbs hides a lot of what's going on which can be tidy or can be obscure | 07:37 |
| elmo | Riddell: would k3b be on the kubuntu CD? | 07:37 |
| Riddell | pef: if you're just starting with packaging you should learn debhelper stuff first | 07:37 |
| Riddell | elmo: yes | 07:37 |
| pef | so there are no recommendations ? | 07:37 |
| elmo | Riddell: ok, but the point is not that we can't have mp3 decode in main, it's that we can't ship it on the CD | 07:37 |
| Riddell | pef: probably best to learn debhelper then do cdbs | 07:37 |
| elmo | Riddell: so please don't split unless it would put mp3 decode on the CD | 07:38 |
| Riddell | elmo: yes. but in this case it does go on CD | 07:38 |
| elmo | Riddell: ok, but you said earlier we can't have mp3 in main - we definitely can; that's my point | 07:39 |
| pef | Riddell, debhelper/cdbs is ~ to LaTeX/TeX about level of abstraction ? | 07:39 |
| pef | TeX/LaTeX sorry | 07:39 |
| Riddell | elmo: sure, sorry for the confusion | 07:41 |
| Riddell | pef: I guess so (not being a tex user) | 07:41 |
| Riddell | pef: debhelper hides a lot behind all the dh_* scripts, and cdbs hides all those | 07:42 |
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| pef | Riddell, so debhelper is more suitable for my first kubuntu package ? | 07:43 |
| Riddell | pef: yes, if you don't learn debhelper you'll get stuck with cdbs quickly | 07:44 |
| pef | Riddell, thank you ;) | 07:44 |
| Riddell | hello mart | 07:51 |
| mart | hi | 07:51 |
| Riddell | mart: going to become an elite kubuntu developer? | 07:52 |
| mart | heh, I only popped in to see if the topic said anything about the cxx transition... | 07:52 |
| Riddell | mart: it's all done pretty much | 07:53 |
| mart | yeah? I was looking at the wiki and figured best not to pull from breezy just yet... | 07:54 |
| mart | so aptitude says it will remove these if I dist-upgrade: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ydCQgs62.html | 07:58 |
| mart | reckon it's worth a go :) | 07:58 |
| mart | ? | 07:58 |
| Riddell | mart: they all look fine | 07:59 |
| Riddell | they're all replaced with differently named packages in breezy, e.g. kdelibs4 is kdelibs4c2 | 07:59 |
| mart | well, I'm holding you accountable when my machine breaks, Mr. Riddell ! | 07:59 |
| Riddell | kde will be fine, it's X that's likely to break. don't blame me for that :) | 08:00 |
| mart | Fetched 635MB in 4m38s (2283kB/s) :) | 08:05 |
| Riddell | mart: oh for access to superjanet again | 08:06 |
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| mart | Riddell: well, that was a blast. although to be fair, you got it spot on - X upgrade just didn't work at all | 08:58 |
| allee | mart: I can confirm that X breaks ;) fixing by hand again ... :( | 08:59 |
| mart | font's moving, and packages with overlapping sets of files got me, but hey g++ -v looks good :) | 09:02 |
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| dholbach | you can begin to use REVU ( http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ ) now | 11:08 |
| dholbach | we consider it to be ready :) | 11:08 |
| dholbach | ready enough ;) | 11:08 |
| uniq | ok. maybe i should add ipodslave to it then. | 11:12 |
| dholbach | yeah, write a signed mail to siretart@tauware.de, he'll add you to the uploaders for it | 11:13 |
| dholbach | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU knows it all | 11:13 |
| uniq | just found out. | 11:13 |
| dholbach | cool | 11:14 |
| uniq | siretart just got mail. | 11:17 |
| dholbach | ah, my bad: you are already in #ubuntu-motu :) | 11:17 |
| dholbach | well, i wanted to announce it here as well | 11:17 |
| uniq | i'm not following the discussion in -motu all the time. :) | 11:18 |
| dholbach | yeah, it was just because we were talking about a third person, but we were "in a room" with him at the same time ;) | 11:19 |
| uniq | ah.. heh :) | 11:19 |
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