[06:28] <fabbione> morning
[06:39] <infinity> Morning, Fabio.
[06:54] <fabbione> hey infinity 
[07:00] <fabbione> AYE
[07:01] <fabbione> they will upgrade my adsl soon
[07:01] <fabbione> 6Mb/768k
[07:07] <infinity> See, now I hate you.
[07:07] <infinity> I'm stuck at 1.5/256 for at least the next 6-9 months.  Maybe longer.
[07:08] <fabbione> i didn't decide to upgrade
[07:08] <fabbione> my ISP did lower the prices
[07:09] <fabbione> and they did send me a notification that they will increase my bw for the same price
[07:09] <fabbione> from 2M/512 to the above
[07:09] <fabbione> i can decide to lower the price and keep the bw :)
[07:09] <fabbione> but more bw > *
[08:30] <infinity> I assume you just carry partial mirrors?
[12:55] <Riddell> doko: did you see that wv2 needs recompiled for gcc 4?
[12:55] <daniels> christ, 6mb
[12:56] <daniels> infinity: armadale doesn't have the iinet dsl2 infrastructure?
[01:10] <elmo> infinity/lamont?
[01:10] <elmo> sorry, my bad.
[01:10] <elmo> laminity: ?
[01:11] <elmo> daniels: I got suckered into upgrading a breezy chroot and have a fucked X (libx11-6 vs xlibs-data, file overwrites and conflicts)
[01:12] <elmo> daniels: is there a safe way to get out of this, or shall I just brute --force my way out?
[01:12] <Mithrandir> elmo: --force-depend-ing in the libx11-6, then just running apt-get -f install works, iirc.
[01:15] <elmo> Mithrandir: good call, that seems happy.  thx
[01:17] <daniels> elmo: yeah, need to fix that, thanks
[01:48] <infinity> elmo : You rang?
[01:48] <infinity> daniels : No, our exchange (Malvern) is scheduled to get iinet DSLAMs in Q3 this year.
[01:49] <daniels> nice
[01:50] <infinity> elmo : Also, when do my two dead buildds get CPR? :/
[01:51] <elmo> infinity: tomorrow, I hope
[01:51] <elmo> infinity: hoary-backports is ready
[01:51] <elmo> on the katie side - are buildds ready?
[01:52] <daniels> you're shitting me
[01:52] <infinity> They will be first thing in the (my) morning, tomorrow.
[01:52] <daniels> backports.
[01:54] <infinity> daniels : Bring it up tomorrow, if you want to hear a drunken rant on the subject.
[01:55] <daniels> sounds like a plan
[01:55] <daniels> it sounds like arseloads of crack though
[01:55] <daniels> (and I do mean literal arseloads -- snorting it off a hooker's arse, in this case)
[01:55] <infinity> elmo : Does it allow source-only uploads from the main keyring, or only automated source "copies"?
[01:55] <elmo> nothing yet
[01:55] <elmo> well, everything atm
[01:56] <elmo> I'm not sure how best to tie it down and/or import source atm
[01:56] <infinity> Right. :)
[01:56] <infinity> Yeah, me neither.
[01:56] <infinity> The whole thing is kinda making me want to cry.  I don't think anyone's really thoguht this through.
[01:57] <infinity> ie: Without compartmentalising this in small "package groups" (ie: backport foo, bar, and baz, which al interdepend, but nothing else, lather, rinse, repeat), are we not going to end up with all backports being built against each other to the point where hoary-backports looks a lot like "breezy on hoary's glibc"?
[01:57] <infinity> I'm frightened. :)
[01:59] <infinity> Oh well.  I'll whine later.  I'll make the buildds go in ~12 hours, and we can shove some source packages through to make sure it's happy or something.
[02:01] <fabbione> infinity: ahhaah
[02:01] <fabbione> "breezy on hoary's glibc"?
[02:02] <fabbione> infinity: what does make you feel so sure that new glibc won't land in backports?
[02:02] <infinity> Because we'll blacklist it?
[02:02] <jbailey> fabbione: If it does, I quit. =)
[02:02] <infinity> I'd prefer to blascklist all of main, but I don't think that'll fly. :/
[02:02] <fabbione> but new glibc are sooooo 31337
[02:03] <fabbione> cya infinity 
[02:03] <fabbione> i am going to stop soon too
[02:04] <fabbione> for once i want to try the experience to stop within the contract working hours
[02:16] <chmj> jbailey, 
[02:16] <jbailey> Heya Charles
[02:16] <chmj> jbailey, ping 
[02:16] <chmj> hello 
[03:21] <lamont> elmo: buildd's are just waiting to be told to add it to the dist list
[03:21] <lamont> unless infinity already did that
[03:23] <lamont> hrm... crested doesn't seem to be happy
[03:24] <fabbione> hey lamont 
[03:25] <fabbione> isn't crested one of the 2 dead amd64 buildd?
[03:25] <fabbione> together with king
[03:25] <jbailey> lamont: Heya, lagging on the gcc-opt stuff I owe you, I'll try soon.
[03:29] <lamont> yeah
[03:42] <doko> jbailey: I was looking into multiarch support, and discovered, that we always include i486-linux, even if we are compiling with -m64. Mithrandir did tell me you do know about it. So currently we cannot add multiarch support until it's fixed.
[03:43] <jbailey> doko: ISTR that I also suggested how to fix it...  I can cook up a patch and pass it around for review.
[03:45] <doko> jbailey: did I miss something? I cannot find a report or an email
[03:46] <jbailey> No, when I told Tollef.
[03:47] <doko> ahh, ok
[04:31] <doko> infinity: ping