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flankkthe startup time with fluxbox from the repos is -very- slow.. even slower than gnome startup..12:00
TatsterNot yet, but I can have12:00
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paulproteusYou'll need it.  The easiest way to get it is with wget, in my opinion.12:00
paulproteusJust do "wget <that URL>" on the command line, and the patch will be downloaded to the current directory.12:01
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Eni_I have Nokia 447Iplus monitor, google says it has 30.0-72.0 horizontal sync and 50.0-150.0 vertical refresh. I have added those manually and x wont start. I have tried different values. What can i do?12:01
paulproteusOnce you've done that, do "patch -p1 < /absolute/path/to/gallery.mambo.sef.patch" in the gallery directory.12:01
wolverianEni_: did X start without adding those?12:02
paulproteusEni_: Try commenting out the lines about the horizsync and vertsync.12:02
Eni_wolverian No.12:02
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wolverianEni_: did the lines exist, with other values, before? try commenting them out entirely if so.12:03
Eni_Hmm, i was wrong, x started, but the picture was blurry and "shaking"12:03
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Mikshow can i lock my DNS values in the "/etc/resolv.conf", they get erased everytime i restat my comp12:04
paulproteusEni_: When that happened to me on my other monitor, the monitor was dying.  It had just started making loud noises when I turned it on.12:04
Seveazmiks, edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf12:04
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paulproteusTatster: So far, you've been very good about providing concise, precise answers to my questions so I can help you.  Good job. :)12:04
Miksbut im not using dhcp312:04
Eni_paulproteus hmm, monitor is few years old.12:05
resiakMiks: I think it's pump or something like that.12:05
Miksye ai have pump12:05
cionhey newbie on ubuntu here12:05
paulproteusMiks: Does your computer automatically configure its IP address?  By default, it uses dhcp3 not pump.12:05
SeveazMiks, well, if you don't use dhcp but static ip-addresses on *every* card, then it should not be rewritten...12:05
cionhow do i uninstall rssowl?12:05
TatsterThanks, paulproteus12:05
Eni_well, i gotta go to other room and check it out12:05
cyrainSeveaz, it's ok12:05
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paulproteuscion: Have you tried using Synaptic?12:05
cyrainI've got to manually enter all commands in the suoders file12:05
paulproteuscion: Basically, how did you install it?  Just do the opposite. ;)12:06
Miksno..it doesnt gets the ip automatically12:06
Seveascyrain, or just use ALL12:06
cyrainthat would make me a kind of root :(12:06
paulproteusMiks: Oh, interesting.  In /etc/network/interfaces, is there any mention of DHCP?12:06
cionmmm i just followed a guide12:06
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Tatsterpaulproteus - your advice was spot on, thanks.12:06
cionwhat do u mean by doing the opposite?12:06
resiakMiks: If you remove pump, resolv.conf won't be wiped.12:06
Mikswell..i removed the dhcp because i was having a super slow DNS lookup issue12:07
paulproteusTatster: Okay, so you've successfully done it?  Great. :)12:07
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SeveasMiks, in firefox only..?12:07
paulproteusTatster: I'd suggest moving the patch out of the gallery directory, if it's still in there; feel free to delete if you don't think you'll need to re-apply it later.12:07
Miksno...in any attempt of contact with the net12:07
Miksinternet12:07
paulproteus(Or if you think you can just redownload it in the future if you will.)12:07
paulproteusMiks: I know what you mean.  This is usually caused by buggy DNS servers that respond badly to Ubuntu's default IPv6 configuration.12:08
radim1hi, can anyone help me? i've just installed ubuntu and need video codecs to play avi. where i can find them? thx12:08
Miksyea...it used to work all fine and suddenly this started to happen12:08
Seveasradim1: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support12:08
cyrainSeveas, thank you !12:09
radim1thx12:09
cyraingot to go to bed :)12:09
cionhow do I uninstall on ubuntu?12:09
caonexMy ubuntu is freezing after a while, I think it has to do with a hardware/bios problem, but I cannot retrieve enough info to help me determine what exactly is happening with syslog, messages, nor dmesg, any other suggestions for log files i can look at? Oh, and the log file for x.org just says that there was seg fault and to contact the xorg team.12:09
cyraingood evening everyone12:09
Miksanyway...now it works excellent...the only issue is that i have to setup the net everytime i restart my comp because the resolv.conf values get erased12:09
Miksi want to lock em12:09
paulproteuscaonex: Laptop or desktop?12:09
Seveascion, with the package manager...12:09
resiakMiks: I JUST TOLD YOU12:09
paulproteuscaonex: Have you tried running the memtest86 memory tester?12:09
resiak23:06           resiak : Miks: If you remove pump, resolv.conf won't be wiped.12:09
Miksokay, thanks.. sorry :P12:09
caonexpaulproteus, desktop12:09
Miksi can remove it from synaptic right? just look for the package and reomve12:10
Seveascaonex, hmm, segfault in X... Have you run memtest yet?12:10
caonexpaulproteus, yeah i did, it kept going and i did not know what it ws doing.12:10
paulproteusAh, okay. :)12:10
paulproteuscaonex: It runs through a long list of tests.12:10
caonexSeveas, yeah i have run it, it looks like it was doing ok, though, paulproteus12:10
paulproteuscaonex: It has a place where it says how many times it's run the whole test suite.12:10
paulproteusAnd it has a place where it lists errors.  Did you manage to let it go for one full run of the test suite?  Did it say there were any errors?12:11
caonexpaulproteus, so how would that help me?12:11
Seveascaonex, anda  place where it will tell you whether it has found an error :)12:11
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gorthaughi12:11
caonexSeveas, that is just not for memory errors, then?12:11
Seveascaonex, well, X segfaults are so rare, that they are usually caused by bad memory12:11
paulproteuscaonex: Well, two things.  If you have RAM errors, you can either (1) return the RAM, or (2) patch your Linux kernel to never touch those areas of memory.  This patch is called "the BadMEM patch".12:11
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Mikslets see if it works12:11
Seveasand memtest will tell you whether your memory is bad12:11
caonexSeveas, let me go right to it then...12:12
honorHello all12:12
paulproteusI'm outta here, all.  Buh-bye. :)12:12
Seveas'navond honor12:12
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gorthaugi've a problem with gnome and the starters it's now are starter's_name.desktop and don't run the app12:12
caonexSeveas, paulproteus, so it will run n tests and tell me if there is an error?12:12
Seveascaonex, yes12:12
caonexSeveas, cool, be back later and I appreciate your help12:13
Seveascaonex, but you will want to interrupt after an hour or so, the complete test suite will take VERY long12:13
Seveasand errors usually are found on the first runs12:13
caonexSeveas, so it will tell me, up to the time if it has seen any errors12:13
Seveasyes12:13
caonexSeveas, so how long should i wait?12:13
caonexSeveas, never mind you just said an hour12:13
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caonexSeveas, ;)12:13
nemikhow would i disable the power management in server installation? the monitor always shuts off12:14
Seveas:)12:14
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caonexSeveas, my bad for not reading, hehe well i will see you later then12:14
Seveascya!12:14
caonexbye12:14
cionthanks to all12:14
cionsorry12:14
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gorthauganybody can help me??12:15
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Seveasgorthaug, maybe, if you can be a bit more descriptive...12:15
honorI've got a little question for you gurus I'm a newbie with linux and now I want to change my windows partition to ext2 and mount it does anyone has a good url for me?12:15
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gorthaugthe starters are now starter.desktop and don't run the app....12:16
Miksi removed PUMP but still my /etc/resolv.conf file got blanked after the restar12:16
Seveashonor, you know that if you change it to ext2, you will lose all data?12:16
Seveasgorthaug, sorry, but I don't understand at all what you mean...12:16
honorYes I know I backuped al data on another machine12:16
kdpwait...does windows run on ext2?12:16
parabolizeno12:17
Seveashonor, and you know that windows cannot use ext2?12:17
kdpi thought it only runs on ntfs/fat12:17
gorthaugyes my english is very poor...12:17
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kdpaha.12:17
Seveasgorthaug, what is your native language?12:17
honorI know I want to drop widnows 4ever :)12:17
Seveasok honor :)12:17
aigariushonor: then you can use cfdisk to change the partition type to Linux (82) and then use mkfs.ext212:17
Dj_AlTeKhey seveas12:17
Seveashonor, then simply do mkfs.ext2 /dev/YOUR_DISK12:17
oggenow ive defragged the disk :)12:18
Seveasah, good one aigarius :)12:18
aigariushonor: I would recommend to use ext3 or reiserfs12:18
oggedo you recommend to defrag a few more times, before resize the ntfs partition,12:18
ogge?12:18
Seveasogge, no, not needed12:18
phaedrus44ne1 here ever try mepis?...12:19
honorIs it possible to resise my existing ext partition without losing data?12:19
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honorbrb12:19
oggeSeveas, ok.12:20
aigariushonor: yes, but it is not 100% safe12:20
gorthaugjejeje google says that i want to say that: the starters have happened to be called starter.desktop and they do not initiate the applications12:20
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jsimmonshow do i change the font in the windows (titlebar and menu)?12:20
Heimdallre12:20
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Seveasjsimmons, system->preferences->font perhaps12:21
LinuxJonesjsimmons,  System >> Preferences >> Font12:21
jsimmons(slaps head12:21
aigariuswill the Ubuntu people, that are responsible for the Google's Summer of Code, be at the Debconf?12:21
Seveasgorthaug, that does not make it any more readable?12:21
Seveasgorthaug, Espaol..?12:22
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gorthaugyes12:22
Seveasgorthaug, va en #ubuntu-es por espaol :)12:22
ironmcprinter problem - I have a hp psc2110 (which I have used with Mandrake and SuSe) - foomatic installed, cups installed, hp ppd files installed - no printing - any ideas??12:22
gorthaugnobody have answers for my question in ubuntu-es12:23
jsimmonsdo i have to restart x to see the changes?12:23
Seveasgorthaug, maybe there is someone there who can translate it a bit better12:23
diegoi speak spanish12:23
LinuxJonesironmc, you set it up using gnome-cups-manager ?12:23
diegowhat do you guys need?12:23
nikkiadiego, you do? i have a question for you too :P12:23
diegoheh, oook12:24
Seveasdiego, can you help gorthaug, his english is very poor, I did not understand the problem12:24
ironmcused system>admin>printing12:24
nikkiadiego, does it make sense in spanish to shorten the word 'Transversal' to 'Trans.' ?12:24
diegonikkia: heh, can't help you there. i never learned to read or write12:25
ttyS0what is aclocal12:25
nikkiadiego, i'm working on a spanish product, and don't have enough display space for Transversal, but thats what the translators gave me :/12:25
nikkiadiego, ummm how are you managing to use irc then ?12:25
pfpSeveas: i think he means that some launcher (icon)s appear as iconname.desktop, and fail to launch anything12:25
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pfp;)12:25
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Seveaspfp, yeah, but what he means with that?!?12:26
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diegonikkia: i know how to read and write in english asshat...i don't know spelling/grammar in spanish though12:26
nikkiadiego, heh, ok12:27
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diegohe's saying that all his launchers are now named Azureus.desktop, etc, and when he clicks on them they ask him if he wants to execute or display them12:27
diegosounds to me like they got chmod'd +x?12:28
Seveasindeed12:28
diegoif he executes them, they do nothing12:28
Seveasbut clicking on .desktop files..?12:28
ironmcLinuxJones  I used system>admin>printing12:28
Seveasthey should be in /usr/share/somewhare and make up the menu12:28
honorwhich one is ext3 in cfdisk?12:28
Seveasclicking on .desktop files will not work as far as i know...12:28
pfphonor: 83 (same as ext2)12:29
honorthx12:29
joamsn: Depends: sox but it is not installable12:29
jo ?12:29
Seveasoh, how nice12:30
diegohe says all his icons (that start programs?) have disappeared12:30
Seveasthat does work :)12:30
nikkiatechnically, linux doesn't really care, i managed to go nearly 4 years before i noticed i had my / on a partition marked as FAT1212:30
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Seveasdiego, hmm, I think he messed around with a few things12:30
LinuxJonesironmc, can you print a testpage ?12:30
Seveaslike deleting stuff from /usr/share/applications12:30
diegoSeveas: where exactly are the .desktop icons?12:31
Seveasor chmod -R on something...12:31
diegohe says his menu works though12:31
diegos/icons/files/12:31
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ender_asd12:31
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Seveasdiego, look at /usr/share/applications :)12:31
john_i modprobed vesafb to try and get fbxine to work, rebooted, and i'm stuck at 640x480 despite no change in xorg.conf.  after modprobe -r vesafb and restart x, i'm still stuck at 640.  any ideas?12:31
Seveas.desktop files are menu entries and program launchers12:31
johm Package glib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.12:31
ender_anyone know how to apt-get gtk+ ?12:31
Seveasthey should *not* be executable12:31
Seveasjo, install libglib-2.0-dev oslt12:31
diegooh ok, just his desktop's icons are f**ked12:32
Seveasender_, gtk+ is on your system...12:32
Seveasdiego, ah :)12:32
diegohis menu and the icons on the toolbars work12:32
SeveasIf it's only on the desktop, let him paste the output of ls -al ~/Desktop on paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:32
jo Couldn't find package libglib-2.0-dev12:33
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Seveasjo, then use apt-cache search glib | grep dev12:33
brentdaxIs there a way to change the audio channel the "volume up" and "volume down" keyboard shortcuts control?  I have a 5.1 setup, and "Master" only controls the front speakers.12:33
Seveasbrentdax, afaik not unfortunately :(12:33
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ender_Seveas:  what about "gdk-pixbuf" and "wget" ?12:34
brentdaxDamn.  Thanks anyway.12:34
honorok I have my partition now but it says it's a swap and there is no option to give it a label?12:34
Seveasender_, use apt-cache search and apt-get install....12:34
muttDChello, have a question about giFT, trying to install the plugin of ares... and how can i know where is the file "libgift.pc"?12:34
Seveashonor, then you gave it the bad partition type12:34
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seliniumHi all, for some reason my cd drives are not working, were fine. I cannot see any drive in /dev .... Help! :)12:34
honori gave it 8212:35
Seveashonor, it should be 8312:35
ender_should I sudo while running apt-get?12:35
Seveasender_, yes12:35
seliniumender_ yep12:35
ironmcLinuxJones  no and I can't get Xsane to recognize the scanner although I have used it before12:35
john_anyone?12:35
ender_thx12:35
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seliniumjohn_ ? just got here12:35
Seveasrestart after messing around with vesafb...12:35
john_i modprobed vesafb to try and get fbxine to work, rebooted, and i'm stuck at 640x480 despite no change in xorg.conf.  after modprobe -r vesafb and restart x, i'm still stuck at 640.  any ideas?12:35
diegoSeveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/25012:36
seliniumsorry john_ above my head! :)12:36
diegoshould i tell him to `chmod -x *.desktop` ?12:37
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honorok Seveas but still no /12:37
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Seveasdiego, yes, definitely12:37
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john_x gets screen res from xorg.conf, right?12:37
Seveasjohn_, yes, but messing around with vesafb might require a restart iirc12:37
lsuactiafnerjohn_ : yeh12:38
john_ok.  how do i keep vesafb from loading at next boot?12:38
Miks:(  how can i lock my /etc/resolv.conf values so they wont be blanked everytime i restart the comp?12:38
nemikhow would i disable from terminal the screensaver so the monitor does not turn off?12:38
honorgot it I think :)12:38
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lsuactiafnerMiks : it shouldnt blank. but chmod a-w /etc/resolv.conf12:38
Seveasjohn_, you might want to add it to the hotplug blacklist, but vesafb should not cause problems (From what you wrote i though that removing it caused the problem)12:39
john_nope.  i went nuts and added three different *fb modules.  on reboot lsmod showed them all....12:39
achyHi, I download a cursor theme, how the heck do i install it?12:39
john_do you know which file stores loaded modules?12:40
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john_i didn't have a framebuffer previously.12:40
honorgot it I think :)12:40
Miksand...how could i see some log of the boot in my system? because when it starts i see one "FAILED" but i cant get to read what it is, it loads so fast12:40
jonas747777any suggestions on howe to make ubuntu make cleaner or more minimalistic? themes, window managers?12:40
nikkialsuactiafner: my guess would be that his resolv.conf is getting set to nothing by a bad dhcp return12:40
jonas747777how12:40
ender_I'm assuming that I already have gdk-pixbuf, I found this: " This article describes the architecture of GdkPixbuf, the image loading library that will be used in the next major version of GNOME. Older versions of GNOME, as of October 1999, used the Imlib library, which has numerous design limitations. This article also describes the differences between Imlib and GdkPixbuf so that application developers can take these considerations into account when updating12:41
ender_their applications."12:41
AndrWshi guyes , anyone who know of a program which can open a rar. file?12:41
john_yep.  before this it was at 1024x76812:41
Seveasachy, use gcursor :)12:41
epProblems with fresh kubuntu-desktop install.  Kongueror sometimes list double folder and files and it often crashes (sig11).  I installed this after the kernel update it that has anything to do with it.  Suggestions?12:41
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Seveasender_, indeed, you have it already...12:41
holycowAndrWs, sudo apt-get install rar unrar12:41
holycowthen open it up with archiver12:41
ender_then im ready to install =)12:41
achySorry new to linux, how to use gcursor?12:41
SeveasAndrWs, unrar-nonfree works better than unrar12:41
diegoSeveas: after taking off the executable flag, he says nautilus now just displays the text contents of the .desktop file12:41
holycowwhat Seveas said12:41
fishheadis reading about building demolition and how 98% of the building materials are recycled now, so cool12:42
Seveasachy, aptitude installl gcursor12:42
AndrWsok , thx12:42
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Seveasdiego, then he should fix his .desktop files, they are broken somehow12:42
Seveasdiego, let him paste them on the pastebin12:43
diegook12:43
lsuactiafnerbrentdax : while you are @ it write me a program that will search for strings that occur most often in a squid proxy log12:43
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muttDChello, somebody has installed the plugin of ares for giFT on ubuntu? :)12:43
brentdaxScratch your own itch.  :^P12:43
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Seveaslsuactiafner, wasn't the sort | uniq thing good enough? ;)12:44
diegoSeveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/25112:44
john_what file lists modules to be loaded?12:44
Seveasjohn_, hotplug :)12:44
Epixi have a USB keyboard. i have the windows drivers. it needs to have a usb to midi driver im guessing. how do i get it to work on linux12:44
john_so nano -w hotplug and comment out what i don't want?12:44
nikkiaepix, if its a true MIDI USB device, it shouldn't need drivers12:44
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nikkiaepix, MIDI IO is a standard USB profile, no drivers should be needed, if it *does* need drivers, then you're probably out of luck12:45
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lsuactiafnerSeveas : yeh but i got hits for logo_blue.jpg and logo_green.jpg .. it should tell me logo occurs often.12:45
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lsuactiafneri block images that i dont need, like company logos..12:46
Seveasdiego, my guess is that there is something wrong with the programs they point to12:46
Seveasdiego, let him check the paths...12:46
diegoSeveas: k12:46
gorthaugthe paths is ok12:46
Seveaslsuactiafner, ahhh, ok, that's gonna be more difficult12:46
lsuactiafneryeh12:46
lsuactiafnerbut your sed thing helped a bunch12:46
Mikschanging the /etc/resolv.conf permissions to read only didnt work...it still gets rewritten everytime i restart the comp12:47
Mikswhy?12:47
Seveasif you want substring statistics of a filename, that will require some programming...12:47
lsuactiafnermaking a program based on that list will be much easier already12:47
epIs there an alternative to the kubuntu-desktop install like just installing KDE?  The little bit of googling i've done leads me to believe this is not a KDE bug.12:47
resiakMiks: Did you get rid of pump?12:47
Seveasep, kde-base, kde-* (there are a lot of KDE metapackages, see wiki.ubuntu.com/MetaPackages)12:47
diegoSeveas: he says the same thing happens if he drags a .desktop of his menu12:47
Miksyea resiak12:47
Miksremoved completely12:47
resiakMiks: Oh, I give up then :)12:47
Miks:(12:47
diegooff*12:47
lsuactiafnerthing is read array of strings.. sort, compare first letter to all other elements.. comepare first two letters ect.. do a shitload of maths and in the end it should say "logo" is something worth blockin12:48
nikkiaepix, actually, you can try this first...12:48
nikkiaepix, modprobe snd-usb-audio12:48
Eni_paulproteus i started thinking too that monitor is dying too... when im trying to start X, there are rainbow colors on the screen, and when i go to bios, there are also rainbow colors.12:48
Seveasdiego, maybe he has set an appication to be opened for .desktop files :|12:48
lsuactiafnerwill spew useless hits out also..12:48
nikkiaepix, that SHOULD get auto-loaded, but it might not for some reason12:48
diegoSeveas: how do i check that?12:48
Seveasdiego, no idea (yet)12:48
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lsuactiafnerbut it might catch something i cant by tailin logs12:48
nikkiaepix, snd-usb-audio is the alsa component that should deal with USB MIDI12:48
Epixnikkia, ok i will do that one sec12:48
EpixWARNING: Error inserting snd_usb_lib (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/usb/snd-usb-lib.ko): Operation not permitted12:49
EpixWARNING: Error inserting snd_usb_lib (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/usb/snd-usb-lib.ko): Operation not permitted12:49
EpixFATAL: Error inserting snd_usb_audio (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/usb/snd-usb-audio.ko): Operation not permitted12:49
EpixFATAL: Error running install command for snd_usb_audio12:49
diegoEpix: root12:49
SeveasEpix, DO NOT PASTE in here12:49
nikkiaepix, you have to sudo it :)12:49
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diegolol12:49
Epixlol12:49
lsuactiafnerEpix : try not to paste12:49
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nikkiaepix, i imagine it will present a /dev/seq device but don't hold me to that, i've not used USB MIDI on linux in about 2 years12:50
honor/dev/hda6       /data               ext3    defaults                          0       2 ???12:50
Epixnikkia: loaded...12:51
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jonas747777should i download gtk 1.x or 2.x themes?12:51
nikkiaepix, look at the output from dmesg to see if it reports any devices appearing (but don't paste it here :)12:51
Epixnikkia, i dont see /dev/seq12:51
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Epixnikkia, cat dmesg |xchat :P12:51
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Trog|odytmy install hangs at "configuring the network with DHCP' any ideas?? anyone? anyone?12:52
KyralDoes your network work?12:52
Trog|odytyes netowrk works...12:52
Epixnikkia, i think that it was found12:52
Trog|odytyes dhcp works on 3 other computers12:53
Epixas a low speed USB device12:53
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nikkiaepix, it will be low speed12:53
SeveasTrog|odyt, is it wireless?12:53
nikkiaepix, you could also take a look through /proc/usb/devices12:53
Trog|odytnot wireless12:53
nikkiai mean /proc/bus/usb/devices12:53
KyralTry skipping that part and doing it afterward (doesn't work on first shot with me either)12:53
ironmcLinuxJones  no can't print test page and I can't get Xsane to recognize the scanner although I have used it before12:53
naliothhowdy y'all12:54
Trog|odythow do I skip that?12:54
FunraiserTrog|odyt, it works on windows?12:54
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EpixManufacturer=Evolution Electronics Ltd... Yep12:54
nikkiaepix, there you go12:54
Trog|odytnetwork works on solaris and on mandrake12:54
Epixnikkia, what can i do with it though?12:54
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nikkiaepix, should have said it was an evo, i know their keyboards are USB MIDI profile compliant12:55
Trog|odythow do i skip the network config page?12:55
nikkia(they actually make a fuss somewhere on their site about 'you don't need any drivers for windows, mac or linux')12:55
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Epixnikkia, what does that mean for me?12:55
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nikkiaepix, it just means you never really need a driver, on any OS that supports USB profiles properly12:55
KyralTrog|odyt: Expert Install and just don't select that part12:55
nikkiaepix, it doesn't mean much more than that, really12:56
Trog|odytok thanks12:56
KyralShould work :P12:56
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nikkiaepix, the next part is to get the device nodes present, although, you might not need them, alsa compliant apps can do IO without the /dev files present12:57
nikkiaepix, they're actually /dev/midi* these days not seq12:58
AndrWsis it possible that Rhythmbox 0.8.8 can play mp3 files?12:58
nikkia(and they might be in /dev/snd/midi* instead of /dev)12:58
naliothAndrWs: have you enabled universe and multiverse repos?12:59
AndrWsdont think so01:00
nalioths_dogAndrWs: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support01:00
nalioths_dogAndrWs: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:00
naliothAndrWs: with those URLs, you can play almost everything you want01:01
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AndrWsom i shall try .. Thx for the help :)01:01
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naliothAndrWs: thats what we're here for01:01
diegoSeveas: any luck finding anything for gorthaug?01:02
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Seveasdiego, not at all :(01:02
gorthaug:(01:02
diegohe should just f*ck .desktop files altogether and make symlinks heh01:03
Seveasdiego, lol :)01:03
Seveasmy thoughts too01:03
diegoactually i don't think he'd mind that01:03
naliothsymlinks never fail01:03
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KyralThe desktop should only be for windows and Desklets :D01:04
Trog|odytKyral, expert mode got me past the network config, thanks01:04
Seveasi'm grep'ing through my .gconf stuff to find something...01:04
Kyralnp01:04
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lahbibsalut les mecs01:06
KyralIs it bad that I am rather proud that I symlinked my anime HD into my Home Partition for when it gets full it won't look different?01:06
liz4rdis it just me or are the repos down...01:06
lahbibok01:06
diegoKyral: yes01:06
lahbibno01:07
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rift-Anyone here use the ATI fglrx drivers and have problems when switching virtual terminals?01:08
naliothKyral: i have no clue what you said, but i've symlinked my hfs+ partition into my homedir01:08
Seveasrift-, sometimes01:09
rift-happens to me all the time01:09
rift-i can't switch to a virtual terminal once x starts01:09
rift-nor can I restart x01:09
rift-it hangs01:09
Seveasthe screen gets all messed up, but it restores after several VT changes01:09
rift-i can't get mine back, i gotta do a hard reset01:10
rift-kind of frustrating01:10
Kyralnalioth: Basically my /media/anime is gonna fill up full (160 GBs+ of anime, hell yah). So I made a /anime in my /home (which is about 280 GBs) and symlinked the directories to /media/anime01:10
Seveasrift-, I can imagine that...01:10
lsuactiafnerKyral : whats your fav anime?01:10
Seveasbut unfortunately fglrx is closed source, so it cannot be fixed I guess01:10
naliothgiving you a homedir of (apparently) 440gb01:11
rift-ya i know01:11
Seveasfile a complaint at ATI :)01:11
rift-i wish I never took out my nvidia card01:11
rift-it worked fine01:11
Kyrallsuactiafner: I'm mainly a Gundam Fanboy, but I am also a sucker for romantic comedies like Ah! My Goddess and Full Metal Panic!01:11
rift-not to mention the xorg issues now plaguing a lot of distros01:11
diegoSeveas: he's fine with symlinking hehe01:11
jayparadiseso control alt enter turns on sticky keys01:11
jayparadisei just learned this a la vmware01:11
lsuactiafnerfull metal alchemist was cool btw01:12
Kyralnalioth: No, its so when I start putting anime onto my /home in /anime, I won't have to jump all over the place01:12
KyralFull Metal PANIC not Alchemist :P01:12
Kyraloh, Kenshin > j0001:12
naliothKyral: ok. i symlinked mine to have more space01:12
lsuactiafneryeh but ALCHEMIST rocked01:12
rift-Seveas, you have freezing issues with fglrx and xorg ?01:12
rift-i get complete hangs if I have xorg + fglrx + acpi + apm01:12
Seveasrift-, no(t yet)01:12
naliothKyral: got a mac OSX install just sittin there (might as well use the HD, right?)01:12
Seveasrift-, just crappy hibernating01:13
jayparadiseyou have an /anime?01:13
ys76rift-: acpi AND apm?01:13
rift-i don't even use acpi or apm, so I don't care01:13
rift-ys76, ya, had to stop both services01:13
Kyralnalioth: You have OSX? You BASTARD!! :P01:13
jayparadisesnyone eelse have any odd / directories?01:13
naliothKyral: huh? i never use it01:14
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jayparadisei have a /fear and /net01:14
Seveasjayparadise, /dynamite :)01:14
ys76rift-: There were some issues when you tried to run both...01:14
lsuactiafneri got /movies and /slackware and /mnt/01 to 1001:14
lsuactiafnerlol01:14
ys76rift-: Try to rmmod at least the apm module01:14
diegoSeveas: weird, he says not that he reinstalled glade-gnome2 his icons are back01:14
diegonow*01:14
jayparadiseim thining about chaning mountpoints from media to mnt01:14
rift-ys76, i don't use either, so I just removed both01:14
naliothmy roomates machine has win_c thru win_m01:14
jayparadiseand using media as MEDIA01:14
KyralI like Media01:15
Seveasdiego :|01:15
Seveasodd...01:15
diegoSeveas: could have been one of glade's dependencies i guess?01:15
jayparadisemy media is cccurrently in ~  but soon to be in ~ftp01:15
Seveasyeah, perhaps01:15
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ys76rift-: Try to complain at ATIs. They receive lots of emails during the last few days. Hope they change their politics a bit01:16
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rift-ya I should01:16
rift-i can't believe they would release such a buggy driver01:16
rift-don't they have a Q/A department?01:16
Seveasnalioth, I'm shutting down thw 12-cell cluster, cya tommorow :)01:16
zythit's ATI, haven't you seen their Linux driver history?01:16
naliothSeveas: goin to 1-cell for dormancy and power savings, eh?01:17
naliothlol01:17
ys76rift-: Yes, they do have one, but it's ATI01:17
rift-it is amazing that ati and nvidia are in two different worls01:17
jayparadisevmware is instaling winblo$ incredibly slow01:17
lsuactiafnerSeveas : cell processors?01:17
rift-*worlds01:17
ooI got a partition with 1.8 gb free which im planning to install ubuntu minimal on. when I in the installationprogress choose the guided partition tool. It chooses to make the swap partition like 112 mb big. and the other 1.7gb. is the swap partition to small?01:17
oogot 128 mb ram01:17
lsuactiafneroo : i think so01:17
diegoSeveas: thanks for the help, though i was only a translator heh. peace01:17
zythoo, that's fine01:17
zythoo, generally your swap ought to = your ram01:17
lsuactiafnermake it at least double your ram01:17
ooand where is the missing ~900 mb.?01:17
rift-i wish bf2 worked on linux01:17
jayparadisei thought it should be twice01:18
rift-then I wouldn't need to dual boot01:18
gorthaugSeveas thanks for all!!01:18
naliothlsuactiafner: seveas is an advanced AI running on a 12-Cell cluster01:18
zytheh, in my experience, twice your ram is overkill, but whichever :)01:18
jayparadiseyea i htought it was odd too01:18
jayparadisebut i read that somewhere01:18
rift-i rarely hit swap01:18
rift-i got 1GB ram01:18
naliothoo it needs to be at least equal, and in your case trebel01:18
jayparadisei wish vmware would use swap01:18
naliothzyth: if ya aint got much ram, 3x is good01:18
oomaybe I dont hit swap either. gonna run xfce4 and some other small, resource-light apps :)01:18
lsuactiafnerlol nalioth01:19
ys76nalioth: I don't think so. You can run machines without any swap at all...01:19
lsuactiafnerjust this afternoon i joked about it01:19
jayparadisebut its using the low mount of ram i have left and going reallly slow yet not slowing linux down01:19
naliothys76: and grow gray hair at the same time01:19
lsuactiafnerys76 : i ran a 42mb machine with no swap but it couldnt compile a kernel since it ran out of ram01:19
lsuactiafnerand i didnt use -pipe either01:19
lsuactiafnerhe needs like 256mb just for firefox01:19
ooso. 256mb swap is better?01:19
ys76lsuactiafner: 42MB is not that large today...01:20
lsuactiafneroo : 246 @ least..01:20
jayparadiseis abundant swap destructive?01:20
oogot a 700 coppermine celeron (mobile) and 128 mb ram. like L1 cache 64kbyte, and L2 128kbyte.01:20
naliothjayparadise: no, just wasteful01:20
lsuactiafnerbut around 128*3 would be good, but 4* might make the machine slow, since a swap uses resources01:20
jayparadiseim trying to maximize linux speed  , killing processes and everything01:20
ys76oo: That's similar to my machine01:20
jayparadisei dont consider 500 mb wasteful01:20
lsuactiafneroo : in that case 128*4 cant be bad01:21
naliothjayparadise: if it's not used, it's wasteful01:21
jayparadisewhen you have 300 gb yet use 2001:21
ooys76, oh. what applications u run on it? what window manager?01:21
lsuactiafnerjayparadise : it is til you find yourself needing to use something thats ram intensive01:21
lsuactiafnercourse you can add a swap easily using a file and mkswap it.. but thats ugly01:21
oojust got a 9gb disk drive in my laptop..01:21
lsuactiafnerbut on my machine 1G dual drr and 1G swap i have ran out of ram twice01:21
ys76oo: At the moment I am running FreeBSD with fluxbox, but before that I used Ubuntu...01:22
lsuactiafnercourse my loads were in 21 21 21 area01:22
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ooys76, ok.01:22
jayparadiselsuactiafner, can you rephrse that "it is till you find soemthing ram intensive"01:22
ys76lsuactiafner: What did sou do on these mashines?01:22
naliothlsuactiafner: ya got em curious, now01:22
ys76oo: Try to give your machine about 512 MB of swap01:23
lsuactiafnerjayparadise : like if you compile ethereal-0.10.11.tar.bz201:23
naliothlsuactiafner: how bout compiling the gimp?01:23
oook. really need so much? just going to surf, icq/msn and mailing on my ubuntu distro.01:23
jayparadisei get htat but what are you pretaining to, its destructive when ram is intensive?01:23
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Alia25bah cedega really gets me depressed01:23
oomaybe a little gimp.01:23
lsuactiafnerys76 : i encoded 3 dvds, ran firefox @ -3 with 100+ tabs open, had mp3s playing and was jumpin consoles ect01:23
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naliothoo at LEAST 2x your physical ram01:23
lsuactiafnermp3blaster runs @ nice -1001:24
naliothoo: any gimp, 3x01:24
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oook.01:24
lsuactiafnerand i was compilin shit01:24
jayparadisesee nalioth uses 2x ram too01:24
naliothoo: and buy more physical ram (gimp eats it up quickly)01:24
lsuactiafnerthing is, if you run out of swap and ram, oom-killer kicks in, thats ugly01:24
naliothjayparadise: huh? not me, i have 1x01:24
jayparadise  o01:24
ys76lsuactiafner: I got that with a process that was leaking memory...01:24
jayparadiseso lsuactiafner , more swap = better?01:24
naliothjayparadise: i have 640mb on a G3/600 ibook + 640mb swap01:25
lsuactiafneryeh around twice your ram01:25
jayparadiseif ur running heavy stuff01:25
jayparadiselike i am now01:25
lsuactiafnersince the kernel also over commits01:25
jayparadiseyea mines 1.2 gb01:25
jayparadisedo the math to fin my ramsize01:25
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lsuactiafneri run heavy stuff, often i will have 11 consoles open, i'll goto bed and press enter on all of em. encode dvds compiling ect.. finishes when i wake.. thats on an amd64 3200+ 9 hrs later01:26
jayparadiseyet vmware is going rediculously slow01:26
lsuactiafner 01:27:21 up  3:56, 16 users,  load average: 1.39, 1.48, 1.4201:26
jayparadiseit still says 33 minutes remaining01:26
lsuactiafnerjayparadise : renice it01:26
unomeThere's no need whatsoever for double ram swap if you have over 512 ram01:26
naliothjayparadise: when ya have a teenynsy amount of ram >100mb you really need 3x01:26
unome19:24:26 up  3:48,  4 users,  load average: 0.35, 0.24, 0.1901:26
naliothunome: concur01:26
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lsuactiafnerunome : there is.. i often hit my swap and i got 1G dual ddr 40001:26
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lsuactiafnerdepends on that you do01:27
ys76There are many opinions about swap out there... Some old documents say, you should have about 3 times your RAM. But what if you got 2 GB of physical RAM01:27
naliothlsuactiafner: to each their own, but a good rule of thumb, it is01:27
jayparadisei dont know nice syntax01:27
naliothys76: the docs are OLD01:27
jayparadiseill consult the man01:27
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lsuactiafnernalioth : yeh01:28
ys76AFAIK there is/was a limit at 2GB for SWAP-Space01:28
unomedude, 2GB swap when you have 1G 3200 PC is waste of space01:28
nikkiays, best advice is to try and determine what you are likely to need01:28
nikkiays, if you dont think you'll regularly need *any* swap, don't create a swap partition01:28
naliothlsuactiafner: the avg user doesnt even realize ubuntu doesnt come with dev stuff01:28
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lsuactiafnerunome : should i paste you the oom-killer logs that killed half my system off at 1300 today?01:28
nikkiafor occasional 'OMG i need to edit a 500MB photoshop file' use, a swapfile will work in /tmp01:28
naliothlsuactiafner: so i don't think the avg use is gonna need to think real hard about it01:29
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ys76nikkia: That's right, but would you like to repartition your hd the other day, because you got OOM-killed?01:29
unomelsuactiafner: no need for that I believe you01:29
nikkiai usually work with 3-4 swap partition, but i'll create a 512MB to 3GB swapfile in /tmp if i think i'm going to need it for a particular task01:29
nikkiays, if you have 2GB you're not going to OOM unless you regularly need more than 2GB :)01:30
lsuactiafnerjust dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp_swap.img bs=1M count=1024 ; mkswap /tmp_swap.img ; swapon /tmp_swap.img01:30
naliothi killed my system today (stupidly)01:30
nikkiays, if you have 128MB then yes, you need a swap partition, and probably a reasonably sized one01:30
nikkialsuactiafner: that's exactly what i do :)01:30
unomenalioth how did you kill the system01:30
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ys76nikkia: And that was mentioned by oo who own a lap with 128 MB01:30
lsuactiafnernikkia : i used to have a file like that all ready incase i need it01:30
lsuactiafnertill today i realised i didnt have one anymore01:31
lsuactiafnerso i sat back and watched the system die01:31
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nikkialsuactiafner: its not like dd'ing from /dev/zero is slow :)01:31
lsuactiafnerkinda eerie01:31
Alia25any females in here except me? feel kind of left out in here :)01:31
naliothunome: opened a video for edtiing (slip of the context menu started it all off)01:31
nikkialsuactiafner: it'd be nice if the system could auto-add swap like OS X01:31
nikkiaAlia25: yes01:31
naliothAlia25: nobody knew until you spoke up01:31
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remyforbes777 alia25: why do you feel left out01:31
nikkialsuactiafner: preferablly without OS X's abysmal use of said swap :)01:32
lsuactiafnerAlia25 : now all the geeks in here will chat you up01:32
lsuactiafnerlol01:32
remyforbes777lol01:32
remyforbes777lol01:32
Alia25lsuactiafner, wwell thats good!01:32
lsuactiafnerlol01:32
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nikkiaor they'll just say 'lol' a lot, and cower in fear, which is what they usually do :P01:32
Alia25so i'll suck all knownledge you have ;)01:32
unomenalioth, ok, so which part died, the viedo card?01:32
naliothAlia25: then you should lurk in here and soak it up01:32
remyforbes777im a noob so i dont have that much knowledge01:32
lsuactiafnerAlia25 : try http://www.physorg.com01:33
ys76Knowledge? What's that? ;-)01:33
remyforbes777but nothing is sexier than an intelligent female01:33
naliothunome: nah, it opened (forever) so i switched to another console (which took 2 minutes to log in)01:33
Alia25haha01:33
naliothunome: was gonna kill it (with top) but top never started01:33
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lsuactiafnerremyforbes777 : an intelligent girl with a sexy waist+abs is..01:33
naliothunome: so i just killed it (didnt want to wait forever)01:33
ender_how do I find out if GLIB was installed in PREFIX and that the GLIB_CONFIG enviroment variable is set to the right path? =\01:33
remyforbes777well that too01:33
remyforbes777lol01:33
unomeI see01:33
nikkialsuactiafner: *sigh* always with the insane requirements01:33
lsuactiafnerlol01:34
KillerSmurfwacomcpl is a way of setting items for wacom tablet pads.   Is there a way to save the sttings as a default?01:34
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Alia25remyforbes777, you'd be supprised that females are usually more intelligent that then they are given credit for.01:34
lsuactiafnernikkia : either i date bcom CA (charterd accountant) girls or BA mbw (like they study physical fitness)01:35
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pedingtoHey folks01:35
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lsuactiafnertrade offs are =01:35
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mrpicklesdoes ubuntu ship with anything that can burn ISO's ?01:35
pedingtoJust installed ubuntu...got a slight problem...lol01:36
b_e_n_zmrpickles, nautilus01:36
ys76mrpickles: You are looking for Nautilus01:36
lsuactiafnermrpickles : cdrecord01:36
Alia25mrpickles, k3b is good.. just apt-get that01:36
pedingtoThe screen size is very small...01:36
lsuactiafneri had trouble burnin a dvd the other day, like making an exact duplicate.. anyone know whats the best commandline for it?01:36
KillerSmurfwacomcpl is a way of setting items for wacom tablet pads.   Is there a way to save the sttings as a default?01:37
mrpicklesthanks all01:37
lsuactiafnerpedingto : press control alt +01:37
mrpicklesNautilus ?01:37
pedingtohrm.01:37
Alia25I have a laptop, what packages do i install to controll the wireless functions?01:37
ys76lsuactiafner: Hm, dd and growisofs did the job for me01:37
mrpicklesi closed the window and can't remember the spelling01:37
pedingtoNope.  That didn't work :/01:37
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johm01:37
pedingtoI've had similar problems before with linux.01:37
naliothunome: nothing reality shaking, just a slip of the context menu01:38
lsuactiafnerah ues now i remember growisofs01:38
ys76Alia25: try iwconfig it is already there01:38
joi think i gif it up01:38
pedingtoI managed to get it to work on a livecd of knoppix, but its not quite working here.01:38
joafter 10 oures of urbuntu01:38
joyes tfor logitech web cam driver gr01:38
lsuactiafnergrowisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso for a duplicate?01:38
joi do that in gentoo in 10 sec01:38
lsuactiafnerjo : then use gentoo?01:39
ys76lsuactiafner: I have to look it up..01:39
pedingtoAhh, the screen res for some reason won't go higher then 640x480.01:39
joyes wil boot in to it01:39
jodonit get v4l101:39
join here01:39
lsuactiafneror wite a bug fix01:40
jowebcam wont work01:40
budluvaanyone have alsa problems with alsa on 2.6.10 kernel?01:40
Alia25thanks, ys7601:40
ys76jo: If it worked with gentoo, why don't you try to use the gentoo-kernel in ubuntu?01:40
budluva2.6.10-5-386 to be exact01:40
ys76Alia25: You're welcome01:40
lsuactiafnerpedingto : edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for a line called Modes01:40
lsuactiafnerbudluva : no problems with alsa.01:40
lsuactiafnerbut i use 2.6.12 i compiled myself01:41
lsuactiafnertry lsmod and maybe you will see the wrong module loaded?01:41
lsuactiafnerand make sure the correct one is loaded01:41
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joi doint like the how tos fron urbunto http://ubuntuguide.org/#manualupdate i look ther but man o man 90% is not working01:41
budluvalsuactiafner, via82cxxx              12956  101:41
budluvalsuactiafner, seems like the right module for my snd card01:42
jolsmod the modules are loded01:42
budluvasnd_via82xx            25248  201:42
jobut in gnomeeting v4l201:42
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budluvathere's a bunch of other snd_ modules too, they all seem to be loaded fine01:42
joandt that wont to load only my tv kaardt01:42
lsuactiafnerdude dont paste i just guide you to a possible solution, i dont know much about alsa or the ubuntu kernels since i make my own things as i need it01:43
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budluvai checked xmms and its using alsa as my output, and i've checked my speaker wires, and all sound volumes, xmms doesnt give me any errors when playing the song, just nothings comin out01:43
pedingtookay lsuactiafner I'm at modes01:43
jonot my web cam01:43
gorthaugwell bye01:43
lsuactiafnerbudluva : run alsamixer01:43
jo snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,pwc,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd01:43
jobttv,pwc01:43
ys76jo: What's thet pwc module for?01:44
limerI changed video cards from a gf4mx to an ati and now I can't load X.  what do I need to do?01:44
lsuactiafnerpedingto : add something along the lines of "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1280x854" "1280x800" "1280x768" "1200x800" "1152x864" "1152x768" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"01:44
jologitech web cam 4000pro01:44
lsuactiafnerpedingto : i think you will need to restart X, so press control alt backspace and dont phreak out..01:44
lsuactiafnerit wil come back..01:45
ys76jo: try to unload and reload it and have a look at dmesg. It should mention the device, your webcam ist broadcasting on01:45
pedingtoHrm, it is all there lsuactiafner .01:45
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jooke01:46
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jopwc Logitech QuickCam 4000 Pro USB webcam detected.01:47
lsuactiafnerpedingto : ok then you need to look for a line VertRefresh01:47
lsuactiafnerand HorizSync and check that those accurately describe your monitor01:48
jobut stil not working01:48
ys76jo: Have a look at the few lines before and after this entry. There should be a hint, which device to use01:48
iznogoodjo: did you give v4l the right option, the right video device e.g.01:48
jodonit have  v4l1 but 201:49
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orogorhello01:49
joyes i no how to set it up but i think its bug01:49
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jopwc Logitech QuickCam 4000 Pro USB webcam detected.01:49
jopwc Registered as /dev/video0.01:49
ys76That's nice, so it is detected properly01:49
pedingtolsuactiafner: I know this is going to sound stupid, but those lines aren't in the file.01:49
iznogoodand to which device is your tuner card registerd?01:49
lsuactiafnerpedingto : they are..01:50
ys76jo: Try to use xawtv to test your cam01:50
pedingtoI'm reading the file now...lol01:50
lsuactiafneraround Section "Monitor"01:50
lsuactiafnershould be before the part where you found modes01:50
pedingtonope...01:50
ys76jo: xawtv -hwscan should list ist01:51
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lsuactiafnerwell... suppose thats why you cant change resolutions.. ok pedingto before you break something back the xorg.conf file up01:51
orogoranyone can connect to ssh on miochons.com ?01:52
pedingtolol already done ;)01:52
jo xawtv wont in stal01:52
joman o man01:52
lsuactiafnerunder Section "Monitor" add the lines, this is only an example and if you use the incorrect lines you could break things01:52
lsuactiafner        HorizSync       30 - 71.001:52
lsuactiafner        VertRefresh     50-15001:52
ys76jo: And xawtv -c /dev/video0 should your grinning face on the mointor...01:52
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joi no01:52
lsuactiafnerthose numbers should be in the monitors manual or on the back of the monitor01:52
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ys76jo: Any hints why it won't start?01:53
jono01:53
jobug01:53
jomust by01:53
pedingtoI'm running a laptop....01:53
joits flikering01:53
jothe lamp01:53
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jotan go out01:53
ys76jo: Did you try to start it with a higher debugging level?01:53
resiakStop hitting01:53
resiakenter every01:53
jono01:53
resiaktwo words01:53
resiakdamnit!01:54
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magicianplz01:54
magicianhelp me01:54
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jofust pis andt smook01:54
magiciani have a problem whit ubuntu01:54
magicianwhit my graphic card...01:54
ys76jo: Did -hwscan list your devices01:54
resiakmagician: What _is_ the problem?01:54
magiciani cannot change resolution of ubuntu01:54
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ruztywill linux run .exe files?01:55
magicianonly 640 x 468001:55
resiakmagician: Why did you need the preamble there?01:55
lsuactiafnerman thats an annoyin problem, breezy really needs a tool to set resoluions01:55
ys76ruzty: No, it won't01:55
ruztyblast01:55
jono xatw wont instal01:55
orogorthere s  zine01:56
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joeating to01:56
orogorthere s  wine01:56
pedingtoThis is a problem I've had with several distro's01:56
ys76jo: Ok, did you try apt-get update?01:56
ruztytrying to install a donloaded windows over it for the moment01:56
pedingtoThe only one I got it working in was knoppix.01:56
magicianyes01:56
resiakIs Mono in Ubuntoy?01:56
ruztyand i can't find an image01:56
joys76  did that 1000 times01:56
rifficubuntoy ?01:56
joReading package lists... Done01:56
resiakSorry, a freudian slip ;)01:56
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iznogooddid you also do an, apt-get upgrade?01:57
joE: Couldn't find package xawtv01:57
jojub01:57
KillerSmurfwacomcpl is a way of setting items for wacom tablet pads.   Is there a way to save the sttings as a default?01:57
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jo0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.01:57
stuNNedso i can 'apt-get source package' in a dir, then tar zxvf original_package, cd to that dir, apply a patch, then run 'dpkg-buildpackage' within that dir and all is well and dandy?01:57
KyralaptS xawtv01:57
timwindows is the worst thing in the world01:57
iznogoodand if you try "apt-cache search xawtv" ?01:57
Kyralerr01:57
zenlunaticlets report ruzty to piracy@microsoft.com01:57
timis anyone else using window on sata drives?01:58
Kyraldamn, thats my alias for apt-cache search :P01:58
ruztyscary01:58
ys76Kyral: Why not aptitude search?01:58
Kyralsee, thats the problem with alias, you start using them, then you go to fix someone else's system and you are like "WTF are these commands?!"01:58
ruztythx anywho01:58
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jo apt-cache search xawtv01:58
joliblircclient0 - LIRC client library01:58
timI need help if anyone is, because everytime I use grub to change the mbr, windows refuses to load the sata drivers01:58
ys76Maybe jo hasn't enabled multi- or universe yet...01:59
Kyralys76: I dunno aptitude just didn01:59
honorI ruined up my filesystem first my bootpartition was read only after that I can't get grub anymore how to fix this?01:59
Kyral't do it for me01:59
naliothKyral: "why does this machine not work?!"01:59
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budluvawhat mpeg plugins do i need for mp3 playback in xmms?01:59
KyralI like apt-get and apt-cache, works fine01:59
joys76?01:59
Kyralbudluva: w32codecs01:59
jpHi guys, I just restarted my pc, and there was a partition verification, now when I go to home/jp/x  there's not the most important stuff for me, I lost 500 mbs of pics and some videos cool im happy :)01:59
ys76jo: Did you enable multi/ universe?01:59
jpI wanna cry  :(01:59
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jphow can I recovery that data?02:00
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jp:(02:00
jono doint thinkzo02:00
joi niuwbie man02:00
ys76Kyral: I am fine with these tools too, but nearly anyboda else is using aptitude...02:00
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KyralLinux is all about choices :D02:00
Victuswill my performance be affected by leaving kde lib on the system?02:00
joso multi/ universe google i think02:00
KyralI removed Synaptic too :D02:01
resiakVictus: No, only your disk spatce.02:01
Kyralactually, can I remove aptitude?02:01
ys76Kyral: Give it a try!02:01
honorIs there a way to fix my ubuntu wirh the ubuntu livecd?02:01
orogoranyone can tell me if there s something special to do on ubuntu to get ssh to work .?02:01
jphow can I recover my lost data?02:01
resiakjp: Look in /lost+found02:02
orogormy port is open and i cqn connect to it on local02:02
ys76jo: It is somewhere in ubuntulinux.org's wiki02:02
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Kyralys7602:02
KyralBAD IDEA!02:02
orogorbut i am behind a router and it doesn t works outside02:02
orogorand the port is forrwarded02:02
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jpresiak jp@shawn:/lost+found $ du -sh >> 48K     . >> jp@shawn:/lost+found02:03
jp:(02:03
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ys76Kyral: Why ist this a bad idea? It will remove aptitude and a meta-packet called ubuntu base02:03
resiakjp: You do of course have backups, yes? Seriously, I learned the hard way too.02:03
jpnop02:03
Kyralhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/25202:04
ys76Kyral: So it won't harm you.02:04
Victusanother question: I installed the mplayer plugin for mozilla but it crashes each time I try o view a quicktime file--has anyone else had this problem ?02:04
Kyralyah, but isn't ubuntu-base == CRITICAL?02:04
jpI don't like backup 'cause I don't have so much space of hd resiak02:04
resiakjp: So you get more.02:04
DonLVictus, mine just crashes sometimes, but I haven't been able to find out why02:04
Victusahh thanks02:05
KyralWait for a sale at CompUSA :D02:05
jpresiak so gift me a new hd 'cause I'm poor resiak fuck you.02:05
Kyralgot a 300 GB HD for about 15002:05
orogoranyone can connect to ssh on miochons.com ?02:05
Kyraljp: Language02:05
iznogoodnobody's gonna fuck no'one please02:05
orogorand tell me if it works from outside02:05
ys76Kyral: ubuntu-base is just a meta-paket02:05
Victusdoes kaffeine work better for quicktime?02:05
Kyralorogor: Passwd & Username?02:06
resiakjp: Sorry, that came out sounding much harsher than I intended, I'm sorry. I just meant that this stuff happens, so it's crucial to at least burn stuff that matters to CD.02:06
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orogorKyral,  u can establish a connexion ?02:06
DonLVictus, I found the only thing that works at all is MPlayer, but I may not have given the others a good try02:06
djsorogor: I just tried and got to the point where it asks for a password.  Looks like it's working02:06
orogorhuhu02:06
orogorodd02:06
naliothVictus: do you have libquicktime installed?02:06
ender_whats the correct way to extract a .zip ?02:07
orogorit doesn t works from where i am02:07
resiakender_: unzip02:07
Kyralyah, I got to the RSA Verification stage02:07
resiakender_: (or file-roller)02:07
ys76Kyral: Do an aptitude show ubuntu-base and read the last few lines02:07
orogorfrom another comp on the network02:07
orogordjs,  do u think i need  bind or something ?02:07
resiakorogor: Can you ping it?02:07
Kyralys76: Oh02:08
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Kyraland it will prolly get reinstalled anyway when I get to Breezy in Oct02:08
jpI want to die I lost the mos importan stuff for me02:08
orogorresiak, i van ping only domain02:08
orogorresiak, not computer.do;ain02:08
Victusyes I have libquicktime02:09
orogorresiak, not computer.domain.com02:09
lsuactiafneromg ppl, its possible to do this.. nice -n 20 mplayer64 fight_club.avi -fs -rootwin -loop 0 -nosound -hardframedrop -lavdopts lowres=1 -vfm ffmpeg02:09
resiakorogor: Then that could be your problem. Try using its ip rather than hostname?02:09
lsuactiafnerhave a movie play as the X desktop background02:09
resiaklsuactiafner: Where did you just read that? Someone else just mentioned that to me02:09
orogorresiak,  that works02:09
orogorresiak, but i am behind a router02:10
lsuactiafnerresiak : #mplayer02:10
Efwishelp, need to change GRUB to load windows as primary and not Ubuntu, but the directions given in the unofficial guide dont' work, any ideas02:10
resiaklsuactiafner: Ahhhhh, djm hangs there too02:10
orogorEfwis, use lilo02:10
lsuactiafneruses around 3-4% of my amd64 3200 processor02:10
resiakorogor: And there's your problem! :)02:10
orogorresiak, huh ?02:10
resiakorogor: Sounds like the name resolution stuff is messed up02:11
orogorresiak, humm02:11
Efwisany other route besides LILO??02:11
jp I want to die I lost the most important stuff for me, only for restart by power button, that never happened to me on windows xp, that's why I did it on linux, trsting on linux02:11
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jpi'm just crying02:11
mrpicklesHELP- I just installed nautilus through apt-get install nautilus gnome-panel-, and i seriously think it fucked up my install02:12
naliothEfwis: in the future stay away from ubuntuguide02:12
resiakjp: Bad luck...02:12
DonLjp, it's happened to me more times than I can count. I've learned a lot though02:12
mrpickleshow do you take a screenshot through shell terminal?02:12
naliothEfwis: google has very good info on changing your grub02:12
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Efwisthanks02:12
naliothEfwis: as does https://wiki.ubunut.com02:12
naliothcrap02:12
naliothEfwis: its really https://wiki.ubuntu.com02:12
sorush20hi.. guys is anyones screen savers jumpy in Ubuntu,02:13
mrpicklesHELP- I just installed nautilus through apt-get install nautilus gnome-panel-, and i seriously think it fucked up my install02:13
concept10Efwis, you want to make windows default?02:13
sorush20its just that I have a machine laptop that doesn't have a jumpy screen saver where as on my pc WITH on board graphics its jumpy...02:14
sorush20can anyone help....02:14
jayparadiseso the higher the nice value the more resources the process consumes, or the lower?02:14
Efwisyes02:14
nikkiajay, lower02:14
sorush20The Graphics Onboard my pc is SIS02:14
Efwisactually it for a friend of mine02:14
jayparadisedamn02:14
jayparadisei just did the opposite of what i wanted02:14
nikkia-20 == more resources, +20 = less02:14
jayparadisei want to increase vmwares priority02:14
jayparadisehtanks02:15
sorush20I didn't have this problem with windows...02:15
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nikkiaonly root can set negative nice values02:15
DonLsorush20, when you say jumpy do you mean less frames per second? If so, maybe you're not running in accelerated mode02:15
mrpicklesHELP- I just installed nautilus through apt-get install nautilus gnome-panel-, and i seriously think it fucked up my install02:15
concept10Efwis, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst  - read the comments02:15
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sorush20donl: could you please point me in the right direction to see if I can fix the problem...02:15
concept10mrpickles, first off stop posting that02:15
mrpicklessure02:16
concept10mrpickles, second, state your problem02:16
jayparadiseok now it says  old priority 19, new priority -2002:16
jayparadiseso it should speed vmware up02:16
naliothmrpickles: please give it a rest02:16
DonLsorush20, I'm not the best at this, but can you tell me what video card you're using?02:16
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nikkiajay, it might, or it might not :)02:16
jayparadiseand i gues slow the rest of linux down02:16
nikkiajay, priorities are a guideline to the schedular, at best02:16
nalioths_dogmrpickles: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.02:16
concept10mrpickles, state what has happened after the install02:17
orogorresiak,  is there  anything in the default ssh config of ubuntu that would restrict access to locales adresses only .?02:17
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mrpicklesbefore i installed nautilus, gnome had basically two panels that were part of the interface.  The ones that were at the bottom of the screen and the one at the top.  Now I intalled nautilus and those panels are gone.  I am entirely confused and worried.  I would simply lik to konw how to get rid of nautilus if that is possible.02:17
ogami1972hey folks- what's is yer sources.list?02:17
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TokenBadapt-remove nautilus?02:17
concept10NO!!!!!!!!!!!102:18
sorush20donl, its an asrock onborad graphics chip..02:18
concept10dont do that02:18
mrpicklesI'm new to linux02:18
jayparadiseit seems to be going faster now02:18
mrpicklesdont apt-remove nautilus ?02:18
concept10mrpickles, can you right click and bring up a menu02:18
resiakorogor: No. I am now going to sleep02:18
concept10mrpickles, dont remove02:18
mrpicklesok sure02:18
ys76ogami1972: The sources.list contains all the repositories which are used to istall software02:18
jayparadiselinuxis a monster ive filled myead with so much info sense i first began linux and still dont know half of it02:18
concept10mrpickles, can you right click and bring up a menu02:19
mrpicklesyeah, so the right click menu is the only menu i have?02:19
mrpicklesyes i *can* right click and bring up a menu ^^02:19
DonLSorry, sorush20 , can't help you there. What happens when you go to a terminal and type glxgears?02:19
concept10mrpickles, open terminal and restart nautilus02:19
mrpickleswhat is the command to restart nautilus ?02:19
sorush20Donl: okay.. wait thanks..02:19
Victusyes I have libquicktime02:20
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jayparadiseon windows i was obsessed with obtaining maximum performance so this nice command is ...... no pun intended nice02:20
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ogami1972well, yes, but apparently backports is down, and nerim is n't working either- i just want to be sure i'm up to date02:20
sorush20Donl.. there are three gears running very fast then slow.. then fast..02:20
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DonLHow many frames per second, sorush20 ?02:21
jayparadisedoes ubuntu automaticailly backup? ive noticed cron-daily and monthly in etc02:21
mrpicklesconcept10, what is the command to restart nautilus ?02:21
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Victuswhats the command to enable dma on the cdrom ?02:21
concept10mrpickles, try this: killall gnome-panel02:21
sweepzHey. i have lost my root password so i need to use the sudo command but how fo i use it02:21
mrpicklesgnome-panel: no process killed02:21
sorush20Donl; it depends on the size...02:21
concept10Victus, hdparm -d1 /dev/whatevercdrom is02:21
Victusthanks02:22
oofnikhey everyone, what is the difference between static link and dynamic link?02:22
sorush20Donl, its 16 on the large size and small it was about 36702:22
concept10mrpickles, ps aux | grep nautilus              is it running???02:22
DonLsorush20, assuming you do have a problem with accelerated graphics (and I think you do) maybe until someone else can help, go to your screensavers and disable any GL ones02:22
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Emanhi02:23
sorush20okay...02:23
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sweepzi wanna make my accouns that i using atm admin but what do i type after "sudo"02:23
Emanam not sure if am in the correct page, i need help to use bash02:23
mrpickles1000      7881  0.2  3.7  38736 19484 ?        Ssl  20:11   0:01 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default302:23
mrpickles1000      7903  0.0  0.1   2216   732 ?        S    20:11   0:00 /usr/lib/nautilus-cd-burner/mapping-daemon02:23
mrpicklesroot      8091  0.0  0.1   3032   716 pts/1    S+   20:23   0:00 grep nautilus02:23
mrpicklesi think so02:23
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concept10mrpickles, wait one second02:24
naliothsweepz: you can use system > admin > users and groups  if you like point-n-clik02:24
mrpicklesk02:24
naliothEman: what kind of help?02:24
oofnikanyone know how to get xmms to play musepack files?02:24
lsuactiafnersweepz : i dont think you want a user running firefox or some network app with admin privilages02:24
Emanamm well, maybe its a little silly problem02:24
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Emanam trying to make a little bash program02:25
concept10mrpickles, type nautilus in terminal and see if they come back02:25
lsuactiafnerjust keep a root terminal open if you hate sudo02:25
sorush20Donl: here is the link to the motherboard I'm using its http://www.asrock.com/product/product_p4s61.htm02:25
Emanbut since i just got ubuntu, or linux02:25
Emani really dun know the sintax02:25
pedingtolsuactiafner: I'm still having this issue with the resolution...I'm trawling for information about it.  But I can't seem to find a work-a-round.02:25
ender_how do I unzip into a directory?02:25
mrpicklesalright02:25
naliothEman: here ya go http://www.google.com/search?q=bash+howto+site%3Atldp.org&ie=UTF802:25
mrpicklesi typed nautilus02:25
mrpicklesand i got this02:25
Emannice hx xD02:25
mrpickles(nautilus:8112): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:02:25
mrpicklesAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.02:25
Emanthx+02:25
mrpicklesand then it brought up a window "root" with 3 files in it02:26
Emanlol google the answer of the gods =)02:26
pinkoif someone cares to explain--02:26
pinkois there anything especially secure about using sudo?02:26
naliothEman: google, the first stop on the curiosity train02:26
concept10mrpickles, did your panels come back?02:26
mrpicklesno they did not02:26
Eman /msg nickserv register ffantasy02:26
ender_I used just unzip foo.zip and got like 100 files on my desktop =(02:26
naliothpinko: yes, it keeps mistakes down to a minimum02:26
Emanups02:26
Emanajaj02:26
jayparadisewhen trying to display files using wildcards, ex: ls -l e* how do you get it not to display recursivley02:26
pinkofrom the user, ok.02:26
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concept10mrpickles, you should try to log out and back on.  Dont save the current session.  They should come back02:26
naliothender_: with zips, you should usually make a folder esp for unzipping them02:27
pinkoit's not intended as a protection against outsiders?02:27
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mrpickleswhat is command to log out to the log in menu ?02:27
concept10mrpickles, if not, get back in terminal and run xchat and comeback here02:27
zooplehello all. newbie here :-)02:27
naliothender_: tar.gz and tar.bz2 files usually pop out with their own folders02:27
naliothpinko: no, its protection of the system from the user02:27
concept10mrpickles, ctrl+alt + backspace02:27
jayparadiselol02:27
concept10lol02:28
jayparadisewhat did he want to do02:28
zooplehas anyone ever had a: "Failed to initialize HAL" error on boot [dist: Hoary] 02:28
jayparadiseim guessing not that02:28
concept10jayparadise, he is trying to get his panels back, he needs to restart nautilus02:28
jayparadiseoh he did02:28
virguleSorry zoople, I cant do that02:28
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jayparadisehe wanted to get to g/kdm02:28
mrpicklesback02:28
jayparadisethat was quick02:28
mrpicklesthe panels didn't come back02:28
concept10lol02:28
jayparadisewhat are you running man02:28
zoopleah ok virgule02:29
zoople:-)02:29
Linux_Manping me02:29
Eman_rpgo yeah by the way when i use cfdisk i get an error02:29
jayparadisehow fast is ur processer picckels?02:29
concept10mrpickles, run ps aux | grep nautilus again02:29
Eman_rpgu know how can i fix thar?02:29
jayparadisei didnt know ubuntu had cfdisk02:29
zoopleive had a hunt around, general consesis seems to be that it is a DVD writer problem, but not sure how to fix02:29
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concept10mrpickles, you dont have any panels?02:29
jayparadisecool it does02:29
jayparadisenice02:29
Eman_rpgit does xD02:29
mrpicklesno panels, except the one when i right click02:30
jayparadisecfdisk owns02:30
pedingtoin xorg.conf what does "DPMS" mean under options?02:30
mrpicklesps aux | grep nautilus gives me exactly the same message02:30
Eman_rpgbut i wanna get the id of one of the partitions of the HD to mount ssome02:30
jayparadiseredners fdisk obsoluete02:30
pedingtounder section monitor02:30
mrpicklesbut still no panels02:30
jayparadisedpms is um02:30
jayparadisedots per minute02:30
jayparadisei think02:30
DonLsorush20, I just did a google search on the Real graphics AGP in your system, and it seems other Linux users are having problems with acceleration with it as well02:30
jayparadiseit has to do with .....iforgot02:30
concept10mrpickles, post the first one again02:30
virgulewhoa Linux_man ping reply: 67.92s02:31
mrpickles1000      8293  1.2  3.7  38492 19180 ?        Ssl  20:28   0:00 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default302:31
mrpickles1000      8325  0.0  0.1   2216   732 ?        S    20:28   0:00 /usr/lib/nautilus-cd-burner/mapping-daemon02:31
mrpicklesroot      8379  0.0  0.0   2904   484 pts/1    R+   20:29   0:00 grep nautilus02:31
mrpicklesis what im getting now02:31
pedingtoNo worries jay, thanks for the help.02:31
jayparadiseid say dont do that mrpickles02:31
concept10mrpickles, do you see that --no default window switch in there?02:31
zenlunaticisn't having DeCSS on your computer and using it illegal?02:31
naliothzenlunatic: depends on where you live02:31
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jayparadisein a chatroom on 450 5 lines or more can get you kicked02:31
pedingtoTrying to figure out how to make this silly thing able to work in a higher res.02:32
DonLsorush20, look at this : http://www.yoper.com/forum2/lofiversion/index.php/t6615.html02:32
jayparadiseof*02:32
mrpicklesi think i see a no default window sm client02:32
jayparadisei wonder why knoppix has X errors with me yet ubuntu and debian dont02:32
concept10Well, I assume the first switch is your problem, I had it before, dont panic lemme figure this out02:32
pedingtolol - I've only managed to get X to work in 1024x768 on knoppix, but not ubuntu so far.02:33
zenlunaticjayparadise: because knoppix is not debian nor ubuntu perhaps?02:33
jayparadisebased off02:33
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jayparadisei have to set xvrefresh xsever and xmod'02:33
virgulepedingto: Do you have the Modelines setup correctly?02:33
zooplehey people..what is the go with mp3 players for ubuntu02:33
mrpicklesim still here concept1002:33
naliothzoople: what?02:33
jayparadisesoftware patents02:34
pedingtoto be honest virgule, I don't know.02:34
mrpickleszoople, do apt-get install xmms02:34
zooplewould like an mp3 player for ubuntu..jus t thought id get advice on it02:34
jayparadisehey whats the deal with dvds on ubuntu lol02:34
riffictry out amarok02:34
rifficits qt based, but it is pretty good02:34
jayparadiseas in whats the apt-get for dvds02:34
mrpicklesamarok = the leet02:34
zoopleill try mrpickels thants02:34
jayparadisemplayer kind of works02:34
naliothzoople: there are plenty, and like opinions, everone will tell you different02:34
naliothzoople: do you have universe and multiverse enabled?02:35
zoopleah ok :-) ya, its cool..just thought id get a few02:35
jayparadisebut i have to go to the actual vod file rather than just hitting play dvd, that always fails02:35
zooplei have no idea...v bad newbie here02:35
virgulepedingto: does ' cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Modeline' output something?02:35
nalioths_dogzoople: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support02:35
rifficxmms2 should be out soon as well02:35
nalioths_dogzoople: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:35
jayparadisezoople: i learned tihs like 3 days ago02:35
zoopleaweome02:35
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jayparadisecheck the pastebin02:35
zooplethanks guys02:35
mrpicklesconcept10, I am just going to reinstall =( its not that bad02:35
zoople:-)02:35
concept10oh well,02:36
naliothmrpickles: are you familiar with the comand line02:36
zooplemy HAL problem is a pain in the ass, but i think that it is a bit advanced for me right now02:36
naliothshcrap!02:36
jayparadiseand just copy an overwrite you current /etc/apt/whatsitcalled.conf02:36
naliothpickles coulda removed all the crap via comand line02:36
concept10nalioth, he just needed to restart panel apps02:36
DonLI'm off for now. See you later.02:36
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sorush20guys how do I configure a wireless card....02:37
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jayparadiseiwhy does bash list recursivly when isuing ls with a wild card02:37
zoopleok next question :-p... good NTFS readers so that i can access my windows partition02:37
jayparadiselike ls -l a*02:37
sorush20the problem is that when I search for it it is there in the lspci, but it nowhere to be seen anywhere else can anyone help please..02:37
jayparadiseto see a files02:37
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zoopleoh shit02:38
zoopleinitgroups: Operation not permitted02:38
nalioths_dogzoople: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically02:38
jayparadisei guess cus its a WILDCARD. but on other distros this wasnt hte case02:38
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Octaneanyone here get captive ntfs tow rok02:38
jayparadisemethinks ls -l a*/ will override that02:38
naliothzoople: you can't write to NTFS, without the great risk of total NTFS data loss02:38
Octaneit keeps hanging on "searching for X server for Glade"02:38
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rodrigohola02:39
zooplewow..ok thanks02:39
rodrigohello02:39
naliothOctane: i do not load windows system libs into my kernel, thank you very much02:39
zoopleill just read from it then02:39
rodrigohelp02:39
Octanenalioth lol :)02:39
jayparadisenope02:39
jayparadiseno one else finds this to be a problem02:39
rodrigoalguien entiende espaol,02:39
jayparadise?02:39
jayparadisenice i have M$ winD0ZE on vmware now02:40
Eman_rpgyo rodrigo02:40
jayparadisein the rare event i need soemthing unsupported i have a fix02:40
naliothrodrigo: hablamos espanol en #ubuntu-es02:40
jayparadiseTODO: procede to explore bsd and others with vmware02:40
Eman_rpgyep02:41
jayparadisehell yea02:41
jayparadiseill see you guys later02:41
Eman_rpgcya02:41
naliothjayparadise: nice? like havin a cobra in a cheap paper sack kind of nice?02:41
zooplegreat..now my Users and groups thing wont start up02:42
zooplemaybe i should reinstall02:42
concept10alright someone tell me how to chroot02:43
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zoopleinitgroups: Operation not permitted02:44
zoople ?????????/02:44
zooplebrb people02:44
virgule?02:46
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mika5hello02:47
Octanewhen they say in the ubuntuguide to edit smbusers02:48
Octaneand add system_username = "network username"02:48
Octanesystem_username is my username on this box, but what's network username?02:48
naliothOctane: stay away from ubuntuguide02:48
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Octanenalioth: why02:48
naliothOctane: it will lead you back here02:48
Octanehahahaha02:48
mika5Hi I am new to Linux/Ubuntu, and was able to add JAVA support per the WIKI02:48
Octanegot a better place for a samba guide, i have friggin used it in AGES02:49
Octanemika5: congratulations02:49
mika5but now it does not know where it is02:49
naliothOctane: read item 3 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines02:49
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nalioths_dogmika5: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 02:49
oofnikhey guys i have a question about the repositories02:49
naliothmika5: that would be the self-extracting .bin file02:50
mika5that's exactly what I did and it worked, but now it doesn't02:50
naliothmika5: you ARE using a x86 install, right?02:50
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mika5yes02:51
naliothwhat doesnt work?02:51
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mika5the JAVA_HOME  isn't in the PATH02:51
naliothmika5: you are confusing the wiki/ubuntuguide stuff with the ones above02:51
mika5my browser is looking for the java plugin02:51
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sara_poois anyone running e17 on ubuntu?02:51
naliothmika5: wait one02:52
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Kyralsara_poo: I have gotten it working, but not now02:52
caonexSeveas, 99% pass, and no errors, so it is not the memory02:52
naliothcaonex: Seveas is taking a nap02:52
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caonexnalioth, oh hehe...02:52
naliothmika5: you can type "java -version" at a terminal?02:53
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mika5JAVA_HOME is in my /etc/bash.bash.rc but looks like it was not executed02:53
mika5yes i can see version02:54
sara_pooKyral: whats changed?02:54
sara_pooKyral: and what window manager have you chosen instead02:54
mika5I don't know02:54
Kyralsara_poo: A complete system crash and a reinstall :D02:54
mika5gNome02:54
caonexnalioth, maybe you can help me, X is kicking me out and when I try to switch back to it, the computer freezes up. Seveas told me that when I get a segfault in X is due to probably because of bad memory.02:55
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Kyralyea, GNOME LD02:55
naliothmika5: how bout "ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/" do you see libjavaplugin_oji.so in there?02:55
sara_pooKyral: i'm not an ubuntu user yet, but i'm considering switching from gentoo02:55
KyralGentoo..............02:55
sara_pooi run a high end amd 6402:55
naliothcaonex: how much memory is in your video card?02:55
KyralHow I have fought thee02:55
sara_pooKyral: whats wrong with gentoo?02:55
Razor-Xsara_poo: well, the products differ02:55
caonexnalioth, 32MB.02:55
Razor-XPortage kicks ass02:55
KyralWouldn't boot 1/3rd of the time :D02:55
sara_pooKyral: i'm actually happy with it, but always curious if i'd be happier with something else.02:55
naliothcaonex: could it be bad memory there?02:55
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caonexnalioth, I ran the memtest on his command, and no errors were returned02:56
Razor-XI haven't found a package manager even close to portage, aptitude is a far second02:56
sara_pooRazor-X: does ubuntu have something similar to portage?02:56
concept10I need to restore grub, I just loaded Ubuntu LiveCD, could someone tell me how I should mount and chroot?02:56
naliothcaonex: got a beater vid-card to throw in it for testing?02:56
Kyralsara_poo: Apt-Get02:56
Razor-Xsara_poo: it has a very very robust package manager, of course, but it doesen't compile source02:56
muttDCi have a question... when you type 'make' and it throughts out an error, does this mean that i'm missing some library??02:56
naliothcaonex: to my knowledge, memtest only works on system ram02:56
sara_pooRazor-X: why do you prefer portage over apt-get ?02:56
Razor-Xor have the myriad of optimization customizations that Gentoo allows02:56
mika5naliot: yes there is02:56
Razor-Xsara_poo: because it's so optimizable and customizable02:56
naliothmuttDC: that is one reason02:56
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muttDCand if thats the case, how can i see whats the library i'm missing in order to make 'make02:57
muttDC?02:57
sara_pooRazor-X: hmm.....  i'm not sure if ubuntu is for me....02:57
Razor-XI can get a Gentoo system to run on my 'ol 486 with a stage 1 -O5 and some others02:57
Kyralsara_poo: I used to use Gentoo, and honestly, it runs the same speed, if not faster02:57
sara_pooRazor-X: i'll give it a shot, but if i can't tweak a use flag, etc. i'm not sure what i'll do02:57
naliothmika5: its seems that things are in order, im not gonna be much more help to you02:57
KyralUbuntu I mean02:57
Razor-Xsara_poo: you'll just download it like a good person? ;)02:57
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sladenRazor-X: unfortunately, on your 486 it'll take about 3 weeks to compile the thing...02:58
sara_pooRazor-X: ok, here it goes.  AMD64 ubuntu on it's way02:58
LinuxJonessara_poo, whnat are you using the system for ?02:58
Kyralsara_poo: No USE Flags, they are all precompiled binaries02:58
Razor-Xexactly02:58
sara_poomy home desktop, but I'd like to install DB2 for practice (for work)02:58
mika5nalioth: like I said the PATH is not set for the JAVA_HOME though I have it in the bash.rc file02:58
naliothsara_poo: get to know "apt-get source -b <pkgname>"02:58
caonexnalioth, I doubt it, another thing that I have noticed is that, and what could be the proble, my +5 v is down to 4.5 and that is causing some kind of warning.02:58
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sara_pooI play some quake 3/doom 3 video games, ut2004, i run postgresql, hopefully db2 but i hate rpm systems02:58
LinuxJonessara_poo, you can always dual boot :)02:58
naliothmika5: it should be /home/mika5/.bashrc    not bash.rc02:59
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sara_pooI've heard of success stories about installing db2 on debian, so i think i can do it for ubuntu.02:59
naliothcaonex: yes thats a problem. time for a new 600w PS02:59
caonexnalioth, I think that is what has to do with the problem. Everytime I boot, latetely anyways, I get the message saying that there was a hardware problem to check the hardware monitor.02:59
caonexnalioth, you think that is just the power supply?03:00
jjbenhamI am having trouble with dhcp failing in the installer. It works in every other distro but debian.03:00
HrdwrBoBsara_poo: I played q3/doom3/ut2k4/wc3 all weekend on ubuntu :)03:00
sara_poocan you get cutting edge software more easily with ubuntu then with debian?   It's my home workstation, and I like to try some of the newer packages, cvs stuff... etc.03:00
HrdwrBoBand it runs fine03:00
caonexnalioth, could not it be, the motherboard not handling the power correctly?03:00
muttDCnalioth, and how can see exactly what's the error when i type 'make' ??03:00
naliothcaonex: you'll need to borrow a "nice" (not cheap) multimeter and test your PS03:00
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HrdwrBoBsara_poo: the software's never more than 6months old, and usually within two months of the release the unstable distro starts to become usable03:00
Kyralsara_poo: Install Breezy03:00
naliothmuttDC: it should crap out all kinds of errors into your terminal03:01
sara_poowhats breezy?03:01
caonexnalioth, and I mean look, my computer seems to be working fine now, but if I leave it idle, then I find it in the console and sometimes unable to control it.03:01
HrdwrBoBKyral: I wouldn't recomment that currently03:01
naliothsara_poo: a puddle of trouble03:01
sara_poolol03:01
sara_poolets install it03:01
naliothcaonex: start testing your PS03:01
KyralHrdwrBob: Was a joke :D03:01
mika5naliotH: i saw that it was empty s o I added the java in ~/.bashrc, log out several x and still not picking it up03:01
caonexnalioth, well, I do not know anybody to borrow it from ;)03:01
jjbenhamdhcp seems to not work on ubuntu for me. It works in gentoo and many other distros. What is the deal?03:02
mika5nalioth: how do I invoke it on the console?03:02
naliothcaonex: pull your supply and take it to a local puter shop03:02
naliothmika5: java -version03:02
sara_poojjbenham: what does an ifconfig -a show ya?03:02
mika5i mean the new .bashrc03:02
caonexnalioth, it probably will return the same as my motherboard, because it is measuring 4.5 as of now, it marks it red for the items to be alerted for.03:02
naliothcaonex: if the supply tests OK, its in the mobo03:02
naliothmika5: at a terminal in your home dir, type "source .bashrc"03:03
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djsconcept10: Still here?03:03
caonexnalioth, I see, puter huh? with time people will be saying ter!! and that will stand for computer, hehe03:03
jjbenhamsara_poo: thanks for responding. I am not in ubuntu at the moment.03:03
naliothcaonex: if the supply tests badly, and you get a new PS, it may fix the prob03:03
concept10djs, yes03:03
caonexnalioth, we tend to cut all the words...this is the first time i see that one though03:03
Victuswill apt inform if removing packages will break them ?03:03
djsconcept10: This might help you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows03:03
naliothcaonex: what are you talking about?03:04
jjbenhamsara_poo: since dhcp failed I did this ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.0; route add default gw 192.168.0.103:04
concept10djs, thanks for the link, ill make sure to provide the same on the rebound03:04
djsconcept10: np :)03:04
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jjbenhamsara_poo: Then I did ping 192.168.0.1 and I got wrong data byte #30 should be 0x1e but was 0x2203:04
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jjbenhamIs this a tulip module issue? Dhcp issue? ipv6 issue?03:05
naliothcaonex: if they charge for testing, buy a new PS, take it home, swap it out. if it works the old PS was bad, if it does the same with the new PS, the mobo is bad03:05
naliothcaonex: if the mobo is bad, take the new PS back for your money03:05
sara_poojjbenham: if your card shows up in an ifconfig -a , and your properly plugged in, etc, you sould be able to pick up an ip with either "dhcpcd" as root or "dhclient"03:05
sara_poojjbenham: do a dmesg to see if your card gets recognized too03:06
jjbenhamyeah it was recognized. I mentioned above how I manually configured it03:06
jjbenhamIt gives me errors when pinging the gateway03:06
jjbenhamsara_poo: wrong data byte #30 should be 0x1e but was 0x2203:07
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fivrethe lag! the lag!03:10
ampaldhey03:10
HrdwrBoBsara_poo: ubuntu uses dhclient by default03:10
HrdwrBoBjjbenham: sounds like there is something weird with your hardware03:11
jjbenhamthe same hardware works fine in debian 32 bit and gentoo, knoppix so far03:11
ampaldi have a question that might seem dumb, but im wanting to use ubunto. can i use any linux-based software with unbuntu? like a linux messenger etc?03:12
davidmccabeHey folks, where do I report security problems in Universe packages?03:12
jjbenhamthe amd64 bit version of debian has the same problem03:12
davidmccabe(eg, if the version in Universe should be updated for security)03:12
HrdwrBoBampald: yes03:12
naliothampald: almost all linux stuff you want (not the payware linux stuff <unless you pay for it>)03:12
Kyral*cough* Cedega *cough*03:13
Quest-Masterhttp://drule.leafo.net/junk/thaimonopoly.jpg03:13
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fivreI find it really annoying that there appears to be no monitor calibration program for Linux...03:15
fivreeverything's so dark03:15
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fivreHey, why is it that my nameservers don't work with my ISP's new assigned number, but work fine with the old one?03:16
sladenfivre: http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/02/07/2244242&tid=47&tid=26&tid=703:17
ampaldthnx BoB and nalioth :)03:17
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sladenfivre: probably because they're blocked to stop the wrong people using them!03:17
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fivrehow convenient03:18
fivrehmm03:18
fivrebut I'm a right people!03:18
fivreI pay for this horrible service!03:18
naliothbrb03:18
Victushow long does everyone think it will take for linux on the desktop to be able to fully eliminate the need for windows?03:19
zenlunaticVictus: why does it have to replace windows?03:19
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fivrewhatever amount of time it takes for WINE to work perfectly03:19
HrdwrBoBVictus: you can do it now03:19
sladenVictus: about 5 years ago03:20
lsuactiafnerVictus : competition is good, hopefully windows will always fill a ninche market, along with bsd and and apple ect03:20
virguleIt will never happen.. Windows is too deep and so widely spread03:20
fivreWindows is made by its apps, not the OS03:20
NigelSI'd say it's already eliminated the *need* for it in most cases but there are some killer apps that keep some people with windows03:20
virguleits hard to change people's mind better start early03:20
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virguleCAD..03:21
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fivreI still miss XiRCON-kano15b, foobar2000, and Logitech peripheral utilities...03:21
Victusyes but I mean native apps for quicktime and adobe03:21
fivreAnd I'm never going to adjust to the lack of middleclick=ctrl+T03:22
X7Chow do i kill the fish?03:22
ampaldwhere do most people download the programs they use for ubuntu? like word processor, music player, etc?03:22
X7Cthe thingie on ubnutu?03:22
fivrewhich is probably possible, I just haven't found it yet03:22
zenlunaticVictus: if ogg vorbis, ogg theora, and mpc were more widely adopted then it would be easier03:22
HrdwrBoBzenlunatic: why?03:22
HrdwrBoBzenlunatic: well, I know why03:22
HrdwrBoBbut it's not like the other codecs don't work03:23
NigelSsee now I personally find every little piece of hardware having its own configuration programs and little annoying thing that sits in the task bar to be very irritating.  Things just plug and play on linux (provided there's the driver support with the kernel)03:23
HrdwrBoBthey are just questionably legal03:23
zenlunaticHrdwrBoB: yes legal03:23
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lsuactiafnerampald : apt-get or synaptic03:23
lsuactiafnerjust run those programs..03:23
lsuactiafneryou will see03:23
lsuactiafnerbut i need sleep03:23
lsuactiafnerMon Jun 27 03:24:55 SAST 200503:24
ampaldthnx03:24
fivreI'm still on Sunday...03:24
lsuactiafnerlol03:24
fivrewhere are you?03:25
HrdwrBoBfivre: I'm at work on monday03:25
lsuactiafnerwell monday exists so dont worry anymore03:25
ampaldits monday 11.20am here03:25
fivredangit...03:25
fivrewe should just all use GMT03:25
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lsuactiafnersouth-africa03:25
lsuactiafnernight ppl03:25
fivreand live with the associated oddities03:25
zenlunaticHrdwrBoB: but its not like you can't watch a dvd on a dvd player or cd on a cd player03:26
HrdwrBoBzenlunatic: exactly03:26
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HrdwrBoBand it's also not like you need those features on a corporate desktop03:26
fivreI DON'T CARE IF NOON IS THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT03:26
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Victusyes but for simple everyday usage those kinds of things are needed03:27
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concept10anyone know admin password for kubuntu live cd?03:28
NigelSif anything I think linux has more problems with the *need* question that Victus posed in the home.  The home user will use the gimp and kmail but it's certain corporate environments where they *must* use adobe photoshop and microsoft outlook/exchange server that you have problems.03:28
lsuactiafnerconcept10 : user passwd03:28
lsuactiafner 03:29:28 up  5:58, 19 users,  load average: 5.72, 5.25, 4.4503:28
lsuactiafnerbatch jobs runnin03:29
NigelSI mean, more problems in the office.03:29
fivrewell, look at the beginning of computing03:29
fivrewell, maybe a bit past that03:30
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fivreWindows wasn't really universal until 95 and NT 4.003:30
fivreat which point Mac kinda died03:31
NigelSsure, but apple has hung on by being first with some killer apps - notably graphics and DTP/CAD apps that mean that even though they were way more expensive than an IBM gray box with msdos/windows people still paid and continue to pay the premium03:32
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dave_hi room03:32
NigelSthat's the challenge of linux vs windows only windows saturated the market to such an extent with its model of business that they have so-called migration stopping apps in numerous fields03:32
dave_I have a question03:32
fivreindeed you do03:32
dave_how do you adjust screen resolution? I only have 640x480 option03:33
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NigelShmm, I noticed the hoary install didn't do a very good job of making people's X server config files03:33
muttDCwhere can i find deb's files?? (im trying to find the gift-ares plugin cause it gave me an error when i tried to install the source) ??, some repository somewhere?03:33
HrdwrBoBNigelS: depends03:34
NigelSwhen I tried a fresh install I had to fiddle with mine to get sane values03:34
fivreComputer>System Configuration>Screen Resolution03:34
lsuactiafnerNigelS : it did create the file.. just not the correct file lol03:34
dave_I've went there fivre but I do not get any other options but 640x48003:34
djs!resolution03:35
ubotu[resolution]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:35
lsuactiafnerxorgconf03:35
fivredoes your monitor support anything higher?03:35
dave_my monitor does03:35
fivredoes ubuntu support your graphics card?03:35
NigelSdave_: yeah, you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add more resolutions.  They should have been put there by the installer but it seems it's not doing it right atm03:35
fivreah03:35
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fivreok, well, it worked for Warty03:36
dave_I have a nvidia gx520003:36
sabbathhow do I get a cool framebuffer console when I bootup? =)03:36
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dave_Nigels...how do I do that?03:36
fivredamnit03:36
fivrenow my arm is all wet03:36
Victuswith linux on the desktop though, eventually all codecs will be available natively-- I was asking when people think it will happen03:36
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naliothmuttDC: what program/lib are you after?03:38
sabbathi miss my little penguin and higher resolution that I had during boot-up with my slackware box03:38
muttDCnalioth, im trying to install ares plugin for giFT03:38
naliothmuttDC: is there a web page for that?03:39
NigelSdave_: that guide that the bot spammed will prob be best for you.  But if you want to add them yourself just use a text editor like gedit in gnome or emacs/nano/vim at the console and edit the file, adding more resolutions.  YOu will see the way to add them as the 640x480 will be written in already03:39
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muttDCnalioth, yes.. i tried to install the source but when i typed make it trought me out an error.. want the webpage for that project?03:40
naliothmuttDC: please03:40
muttDCnalioth, http://gift-ares.berlios.de/03:40
NigelSVictus: codecs are available natively now so to speak.  If you mean will they be available unencumbered by the license problems that make them unsuitable for free software purists then I'm not sure that will come about universally for linux.  I think certain distros like Xandros and Linspire will continue to do deals and get actual licensed dvd decoding though03:41
superkittyhow well will Ubuntu run on 128MB of ram?03:41
naliothNigelS: they are not available now03:41
naliothNigelS: i cannot use win32 codecs03:41
jasmuzsuperkitty: somewhat03:41
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NigelSwell it depends what codecs we're talking about.  I don't have any trouble with just about any format on the net - which ones are you thinking of nalioth ?03:42
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superkittyjasmuz that doesnt sound promissing03:42
cristianogud night :) somone can help me?03:42
jasmuzsuperkitty: instead of using gnome ...install Xfce03:42
xxtremesuperkitty, im running ubuntu on a P2 128mb at home03:42
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naliothNigelS: there aer some that dont work on ppc arch03:43
xxtremeits ok, nothing to brag about it works03:43
pestilenceduring install, it asks you whether the hardware clock is set to GMT or not.  i selected the wrong option.  how do i fix it?03:43
superkittyxxtreme i will be running it on a P3 with a 700mhz cpu03:43
cristianohow do i make my serial mouse works?03:43
cristiano:(03:43
xxtremesuperkitty, you'll do fine03:43
cristianomdetect doesnt work :~03:44
NigelSyeah, superkitty there are options for low resource systems if you like, but now-a-days gnome will be a bit clunky on a lower resourced system03:44
xxtremesuperkitty, in the future add some ram, its cheap03:44
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superkittyhow well does the OS configure modems?03:44
NigelSnalioth: ah I see, I guess not many will be running desktops with PPC into the future though I guess :)03:44
NigelSI thought job's keynote was funny :)03:44
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xxtremesuperkitty, it should do it for you03:45
naliothNigelS: that is a good point (although i've been thinking about a small 8xPower IBM box)03:45
xxtremesuperkitty, go for it03:45
oofnikcan anyone help me with xmms?03:45
ttyS0how to upload file on server using "ssh" utility? =)03:45
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pestilenceoofnik, just ask03:46
xxtremeoofnik, ask away03:46
NigelSttyS0: use scp/sftp03:46
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jasmuzoofnik: what is your issue03:46
naliothttyS0: just like ftp, 'get' and 'put'03:46
NigelSttyS0: which is part of the ssh suite if utils03:46
naliothttyS0: or you use 'sftp'03:46
dave_Nigel, please run by me again how to correct issue with resolution03:46
naliothmuttDC: do you have libgift on your system?03:47
dave_new to ubuntu03:47
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ttyS0ty :)03:47
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NigelSnalioth: yeah, I'm sure it's pretty cool - I guess PPC will still be around for a while - will become collectors items on ebay even for PPC mac things I suspect.  Jobs reckons *they* can transition in 2 years but the customers will take longer :)03:47
NigelShmm, maybe I should buy a PPC mac, keep it in pristine condition for 15 years :)03:48
NigelSdave_: there was a guide on the wiki for you, one sec03:48
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xxtremeNigel, and i just bought a PB, dangit03:48
muttDCnalioth, yes i also have the libgift-dev 'cause i needed it for the './configure03:48
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cristianohow do i make my serial mouse works?03:48
naliothNigelS: this one i'm using now (via ubuntu) is over 3.5 years old (from time i opened the box) and (besides a HD replacement) is still goin quit well03:48
cycomI love ubuntu.03:48
cycomjust thought you all should know03:48
naliothxxtreme: you will use your PB for a long long time03:48
NigelSdave_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:48
naliothxxtreme: NEVER regret buying a mac03:49
jasmuzcycom: WE ALL DO03:49
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naliothxxtreme: if you REALLY don't like it, sell it to me03:49
xxtremeNigelS, i'll be returning it next week, and ue my IBM T42 on the road03:49
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NigelSnalioth: cool, I was tempted to buy a PB a while back, I love their design but then I realised that I'm a student and have no money :)03:49
cycomNigelS: same here. I ended up with a compaq03:49
naliothxxtreme: sell it to me (unless the apple store will give you your money back)03:49
xxtremenalioth, im not complaining, trust me03:49
dave_nigel, says page does not exist yet03:49
Victusdoes anyone know how I can get evolution to display pictures in emails?03:50
jasmuzNigelS: we all lust for hardware03:50
naliothNigelS: the macs are well built (that i've owned) and last a good long time (from experience)03:50
rodrigohello03:50
xxtremenalioth, they will refund me03:50
virguleIts is the settings -> mail -> HTML -> always load images....03:50
oofnikalright.. i built a new input plugin for xmms, and it is in the correct directory, but xmms refuses to see it and i have no idea why03:50
rodrigouna pregunta como se entra al editor03:50
jasmuzive been lusting over an old laptop, like forever03:50
virguleor something alike ;)03:50
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naliothNigelS: i've owned 3 intel notebooks in the 3.5+ years i've had this one, and they all felt/were cheap03:50
jasmuzrodrigo: a cual editor te refieres?03:50
NigelSxxtreme: that's pretty cool - I can understand wanting to return it when faster PBs are sort of around the cornet03:50
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NigelScornet*03:50
NigelSdoh!03:50
NigelScorner*03:51
oofnikis there some sort of local plugin database for xmms or something?03:51
nalioths_dogdave_:  find out how you can change your display's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:51
rodrigode las x03:51
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muttDCnalioth, thanks a lot man i already installed ares plugin ;)03:51
virguleI got it: images in Evolution: Edit->PreferencesMail Preferences->HTML Mail. look in this panel its there03:51
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NigelSnalioth: yeah, this is my parent's one that Ive borrowed while I'm at home and the keyboard and construction is quite cheap and nasty :)03:51
xxtremeNigelS= yeah, i can wait, for them, i just hope they have all the bugs out, when they ship off the first batch03:51
jasmuzrodrigo: xorgconfig03:51
naliothNigelS: faster pbs will ALWAYS be around the corner03:51
naliothmuttDC: great03:52
rodrigopara modicar del mouse03:52
NigelSnalioth: we're not talking brushed aluminium look here :)03:52
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jasmuzrodrigo: que mouse tienes?03:52
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naliothNigelS: the busted-plastic-aluminum-look?03:52
xxtremenalioth, are you hearing anything about PB G5's03:52
rodrigogenius03:52
naliothxxtreme: never happen03:52
djsN0-De4th-Subst4n (cristiano): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerialMouseHowto03:53
xxtremenalioth, dangit03:53
N0-De4thty djs  :)03:53
naliothxxtreme: freescale has revealed some 1.67ghz G4s (and whispers about dual-core G4s are heard)03:53
NigelSxxtreme: yeah :) they're using dual binaries for a while and also "rosetta" which is meant to do transparent PPC emulation on x86 for those binaries that are legacy03:53
NigelSshould be fun bug wise :)03:53
jasmuzrodrigo: que tipo de mouse es03:53
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zooplehello. newbie here. how do i become the admin on my comp. I installed it, but it seems that i dont have access to some things03:53
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NigelSthough at the keynote they demonstrated mathematica and said they'd ported it in 2 hours to x86 mac03:53
nalioth!root03:53
ubotuwell, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo03:53
djsN0-De4th: yw :)03:53
xxtremeNigelS, so i guess just max out the ram, huh?03:53
naliothzoople: read waht ubotu said03:53
rodrigoel tipo me mouse es un genius03:53
rodrigonetscroll03:54
NigelSnalioth: it's the chinese toy factory spare plastic parts look on this fujitsu siemens one03:54
Darkfusionso my friends comp starts up, goes to a blank screen, and then the ubuntu login shows up after a couple minutes, what should I tell him to do? He has no framebuffer.03:54
zoopleok :-) ill give it a read, thanks03:54
naliothNigelS: i don't care to discuss chinese x86 cheapness. i bought several and ran linux on em (til they crapped out)03:54
NigelSxxtreme: possibly, atm they're promising the world and claiming that the overhead is tiny but I'd wait and see03:55
NigelSthe latest version of Xcode is designed to make porting architectures easy apparently...03:55
jasmuzrodrigo: que raro que no te trabaja03:55
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oofnikahh lockup..03:55
naliothNigelS: yes, just tick the box03:56
xxtremeNigelS, im in construction, and for designs, and blueprints, you can't beat a Mac03:56
naliothNigelS: apple (via next) has a history of 'fat binarys'03:56
oofnikso no ideas on my xmms problem?03:56
xxtremeoofnik, u never asked03:56
virguleoofnik: remind me..03:56
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NigelSyeah, I watched the quicktime file of jobs demoing it on stage but as ever you have to wonder what kind of a beast he was using to run the programs03:57
rodrigoxorgconfig03:57
oofnikhaha, i did, i said xmms didn't see all of my input plugins in the directory03:57
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rodrigosi no :; =?03:57
zoopleis it possible to log in as root?03:57
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oofniki just built one and it was installed in /usr/lib/xmms/Input.. but xmms doesn't see it03:57
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naliothzoople: possible but not advised03:57
virgulechmod ?03:57
Cyber23has anyone got those new ati drivers to work yet for Ubuntu03:57
naliothzoople: did you read that url?03:58
pietro_spinaxxtreme: You find any good linux apps for 2Dcad?03:58
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zoopleyes03:58
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zooplebut dont really understand03:58
zooplelol...sill newbie03:58
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jasmuzoofnik: place it in your home/user/.xmms/plugins03:58
xxtremepietro_spina, freecad, this other one, let me check03:58
naliothzoople: if you log in as root, other users can trick you (or your puter) into doing bad things03:58
tiglionabbitsay, is there a way I can just run a graphical exe that's not an installer?  I forget if that's possible03:58
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naliothzoople: on the othe hand, "YOU" logged in as root constantly can do bad things to the system03:59
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naliothzoople: sudo is a 'safety net' for users03:59
zoopleah ok03:59
zooplethat makes sense03:59
naliothtiglionabbit: any linux app will run from the command line03:59
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tiglionabbitnalioth: I mean a windows exe04:00
HrdwrBoBit's a nice balance between 'root all the time' and 'ability to alter system settings'04:00
naliothtiglionabbit: i have no idea04:00
SpecialBuddywhat should I download for avi files04:00
nalioths_dogSpecialBuddy: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support04:00
SpecialBuddythanks04:00
tw|litwhere can i get firefox 1.04 debs  for ubuntu ?04:00
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unomewith root, a space slip can cost you the entire system. Imagine this rm -rf  /home/you/file.txt (notice the space)04:01
xxtremepietro_spina> check out www.graphiteone.com04:01
oofnikjasmuz it still does not work04:01
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Cyber23Can someone help me get my ati drivers working in Ubuntu04:01
tw|liti mean packages from the devel tree04:01
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virguleunome: what would it do?!04:01
jasmuzoofnik: no idea04:01
pietro_spinaxxtreme: Sweet, looking at freecad right now.... Looks much more mature than I recall04:01
unomevirgule: I mean rm -rf / home/you/file04:01
naliothtw|lit: at this time, you cant04:01
Cheraxanybody knows a guide on how to strip down ubuntu for an old laptop04:02
virgulelemme try that..04:02
unomelol04:02
zoopleso...for sudo, i just type in: sudo chown bob * and im all good04:02
naliothtw|lit: ubuntu ff 1.0.2 has the security fixes rolled into it04:02
xxtremepietro_spina> yeah, i remember the older versions04:02
tw|litnalioth: ok. thanks04:02
naliothzoople: yes, if you wanted to chown bob04:02
oofnikhm.. thanks any jasmuz, anybody want to help me figure out why xmms doesn't see all my input plugins?04:02
oofnikanyway*04:02
xxtremepietro_spina> dont forget graphiteone04:02
naliothCherax: do a server install04:02
zoopleso i write sudo chown root *04:02
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naliothCherax: then use a lightweight window mangler04:03
naliothzoople: its "sudo <command>"04:03
pietro_spinaaat: site not found... Googleing now...04:03
xxtremepietro_spina> www.graphiteone-cad.com   sorry04:04
pietro_spinaxxtreme: http://www.graphiteone-cad.com/en/   For your updated bookmarks...04:04
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pietro_spinahehe04:04
rodrigoq puedo  hacer.,.  =?04:04
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pietro_spinaxxtreme: have you used either of those for a real project?04:06
oofniki think i found something, there is a libmpc.la file in the plugin directory, and it specifies the plugin's dependant libraries... maybe i don't have one of them?04:06
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netsniperwho needs help?04:06
netsniperim ready04:06
Vinhmeme04:06
netsniperok...shoot04:07
virgulenetsniper: I may have a challenge for you04:07
netsniper?04:07
xxtremepietro_spina= freecad, 4 months ago, im really looking into graphiteone04:07
virguleXMMS run fine is Xfce4, crash in KDE but load and wont do anything in GNOME? So whats up?04:07
resiakvirgule: Sound daemons.04:08
xxtremepietro_spina>= i called them last week, and we're getting together soon04:08
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virgulelets kill the bad daemons04:08
netsnipervirgule, does it seg fault?04:08
virgulenope.04:08
Vinhnetsniper: its been pissing me for days but I can get nice msfonts working lovely for programs and etc but not for firefox surfing for somereason unless i use the firefox option "must use these fonts" then i see sites not met to been seen that way, countless number of linux i tried with koquer couldnt get working and now firefox.04:08
virgulein KDE it wont even load, in GNOME it load, start to play but promptly stop just befaore anything audible comes out04:09
virgulei got to xkill by then04:09
pietro_spinaxxtreme: I'm in an Auto cad world right now. But I dont suspect I'll ever afford it if I go out on my own...04:09
netsniperVinh, did you follow the ubuntuguide.org instructions for adding core MS fonts?04:09
Vinhyep04:09
xxtremepietro_spina>= they need promotion here in Miami, so I hope I can make a deal04:09
Vinhlike the fonts in firefox webpages, arent anti lised or something i think like msfonts04:09
Vinhnot smooth04:09
netsnipervirgule, did you try to debig with gdb?04:10
xxtremepietro_spina> r  u  licensed04:10
virgulei dunno how04:10
pietro_spinaxxtreme: Their UI looks like it could use some work....04:10
pietro_spinaxxtreme: starting exams next month...04:10
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Vinhhttp://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=1474&stc=1&thumb=1, http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=1476&stc=1&thumb=104:11
Cheraxnetsniper do you know how to do a strip down version of Ubuntu, like disable all the service04:11
Vinhthats what my fonts look like in firefox netsniper04:11
NeoGeo64whats the best kind of linux to put on a pentiumn100 with 16mb of ram and 1gb hdd04:11
xxtremepietro_spina> hey wait, until they meet with my company, i'll get back with you on them04:11
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ttyS0sorry for disturbing again. but... "configure: error: Unable to locate libglade" i've installed libglade 2.0...but...may be it wasn't enought. is it possible to install it using apt-get?04:11
netsniperhttp://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~gilpin/tutorial/04:11
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Vinhnetsniper: opps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=229035#post229035 there you got, last page last post is me. 2 screenshots of my firefox surfing webpages there, as u can see fonts look yucky :(04:12
pietro_spinaxxtreme: I'm in the forums... feel free to send me a message... hopefully they'll show you some pimped out UI hehehe04:13
virgulelibglade-dev?04:13
netsniperVinh, your pic is too small04:13
budluvaanyone here use ubuntu?04:13
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virguleor libglade2-dev?04:14
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xxtremepietro_spina> they better, cause Miami Beach is booming with construction04:14
budluvawoops, wrong window04:14
netsniperCherax, what services do you need  disable all you dont!  that's it04:14
_0killsmy little bro is installing Ubuntu on his system right now, hes gonna be on here soon04:14
Vinhsniper: that link i posted should have 2 pics, clic on it for larger version04:14
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oofnikto boot to runlevel 3 instead of 2, can i just type in 'kernel init 3' ?04:14
netsniperVinh, they were both small04:14
DerumIm having Trouble playing AVI, WMA, WMV etc on my computer, I was wondering How I would be able to watch/listen to these types of files. The thing that I don't understand is that I have all the W32codecs and things of the sort, I even have MPLAYER but it just doesnt seem to work, can anyone help?04:14
ookiisince i've just switched to ubuntu, i need to know the equivelancy of some windows programs, like what is the linux equivelant of dvd decrypter?04:15
oofnikDerum have you tried using xine and xmms?04:15
_0killsDerum, try VLC yet?04:15
virgulevlc04:15
budluvaookii, dvd::rip i think, i could be wrong04:15
Vinhnetsniper: hmm even this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=229035&postcount=68 ?04:15
DerumVLC whats that?04:15
_0killsa media player04:15
virgulemplayer-like app04:15
DerumXine I haven't tried, and XMMS doesnt play any files but MP304:15
oofnikis vlc gtk2.4?04:15
_0killsDerum, just do sudo apt-get install vlc and youre good to go04:15
Derumok I will try that thank you04:16
netsniperVinh, the first two had get argumetns of "thumb=1"04:16
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netsniperyou linked me to the thumbnails..04:16
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_0killsDerum, and also, not always, but in some cases you will have to type: pkill esd for the sound to play in VLC04:16
Vinhnetsniper: ohh sorry04:16
pietro_spinaxxtreme: Isn't almost always though... Soo much  money flowing through that town04:16
oofnikguys how can i change my runlevel at boot04:16
Derumok I will remember that04:16
Derumis there a way where I can place that to automatic?04:17
oofnikis it 'kernel runlevel n' ?04:17
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terryhello can a real rank nebie ask questions here?04:17
netsniperVinh, your fonts look fine -- whats wrong?04:17
terrynewbie04:17
oofnikyeah terry go ahead and ask04:17
netsniperoofnik, init 3 ?04:17
_0killsterry, youve come to the right place04:17
terryhi04:17
xxtremepietro_spina> yeah, so i hope we can make a deal, so i can promote that software here, if its any good04:17
terryI am lost04:17
Derumcool its working04:17
Derumthank you again04:17
_0killsnp Derum04:17
oofniknetsniper, yeah i want runlevel 3 can i just type that at the grub prompt?04:17
terrycan't even seem to change my theme04:17
Cyber23Need some help with ati drivers04:17
oofnikwhen i change the boot options and such04:18
Cyber23can anyone help04:18
Derumbut like you said the sound isnt working04:18
bob2xxtreme: "promote"?04:18
Derumis there a way where I can get pkill esd to but automatic?04:18
netsniperoofnik, you mean you want it by default on very boot?04:18
_0killsDerum, in terminal type pkill esd04:18
netsniperevery boot?04:18
oofnikno netsniper just once04:18
bob2Cyber23: you followed wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto, right?04:18
_0killsDerum, to turn esd back on just type esd04:18
netsniperoofnik, go into command line and type "init 3"04:18
oofniki want to use runlevel 3 as a 'vnc server' mode04:18
_0killsDerum, i always turn esd off, its rarely ever on04:19
oofnikthanks netsniper i will go try that04:19
terrywhen i go to themes it lists several but when i select to install it asks me where it is .... not sure where to look04:19
netsniperoofnik, level 3 is single-user dude!04:19
Vinhnetsniper: it does? even the overclockers.com.au screenshot? looks much clearer and ease on the eye when surfing on ie/firefox in windows04:19
bob2Derum: syste -> preferences -> sound -> "start sound server", disable it04:19
bob2netsniper: er, no, it's not04:19
Derumoh ok thanks again04:19
bob2netsniper: level 3 is identical to level 2.  which is identical to level 4.  which is identical to...5.04:19
_0killsterry, the install option is only for adding new themes04:20
oofnikyeah, i thought it's like init 1 = halt, then init 2 - 5, then 6 is reboot04:20
bob21 = single-user mode, 0 = halt.04:20
_0killsterry, to select different themes just click on one04:20
oofnikah04:20
oofnikok i'm going to try this04:20
terrywhy does it display seveal?04:20
netsniperthat was dumb...why did i say that04:20
oofnikif x is not running locally, will XDMCP still run in a vnc server?04:20
oofnikhaha netsniper it's all good04:21
_0killsterry, what do you mean?04:21
terryi have done that but it asks me to show it where the the files are04:21
oofnikterry are you trying to install a theme that you downloaded or what?04:21
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Ghete1Ok here is a really hard question. i need a sega saturn emulator that will run the cd's, not isos or anything04:22
netsniperGhete1, not gonna happen04:22
Ghete1oh come on!04:22
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resiakAre they standard CDs?04:23
Ghete1im sure its out there somewhere04:23
terrywell i tried to change my them from the default by selecting one in the theme preferences04:23
oofnikehh.. anyone know if XDMCP will still run in a vnc server if it's not running locally04:23
bob2the logical first step would be to find out if there arew any sega saturn emulators for linux at all04:23
Ghete1yes they are04:23
netsniperGhete1, go to Zophar's domain for some nice linux/win32 emus, but it wont run a CD directly04:23
bob2have you done that?04:23
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terrybut they don't install04:23
resiakGhete1: Just tell them to use /dev/cdrom as the iso image04:23
terryit opens a box and asks for a location04:23
Ghete1let me look around for a few min04:23
netsniperGhete1, i believe that Saturn had some special reader in the console04:24
_0kills...terry, when you select a theme it asks for a location?04:24
terryyes04:24
terrybut i have no idea where to look04:24
terrywe are talking I'm lost04:25
NeoGeo64im in runlevel 704:25
bob2there is no runlevel 7 in ubuntu04:25
netsniperGhete1, http://www.zophar.net/unix/saturn.html04:25
NeoGeo64i made one04:25
_0killsmy brother is installing Ubuntu, he has a wireless card, its asking for ESSID, any idea what that is?04:25
oofnikhaha runlevel 7.. what did you go and do that for04:25
bob2_0kills: ... the ESSID of your access point04:25
Ghete1netsniper: yeah im there04:25
oofnikyou have 3, 4, and 5 to mess with04:25
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NeoGeo64runlevel 7 is windows xp04:25
NeoGeo64hahahahahahahha04:26
NeoGeo64heh04:26
bob2hilarious04:26
oofnikhah.. is that what you did04:26
terryoh i think i discovered04:26
resiakMy runlevels go all the way up to 11, etc.04:26
_0killsbob2, how do i find that out?04:26
NeoGeo64i need a crack for ubuntu04:26
NeoGeo64anyone got a keygen for horay04:26
terryyou just select and hit revert is that corect04:26
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bob2_0kills: you don't know the name of your AP?04:26
Ghete1neogeo64: i can lend you a cd key if you want04:26
oofnikneogeo that doesn't even make sense04:26
netsniper_0kills, iwconfig04:26
bob2NeoGeo64: please stop being silly04:26
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terryfelling kinda silly now04:27
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NeoGeo64the site im at is charging 9.99 to download ubuntu04:27
terryfeeling04:27
netsniperbob2, are you a Ubuntu developer?04:27
_0killsbob2, sorry man, im a noob, i dont even know what an AP is04:27
oofnikthen download it somewhere else? jeez it's linux04:27
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syndok i just put in a DVD drive.. and now what do i do to make sure its recognized and working correctly?04:27
bob2netsniper: depends how you define that.  I'm not paid to work on ubuntu, no.04:28
CheraxAction Points04:28
syndbob2: is anyone paid to work on ubuntu?04:28
_0killshehe04:28
HrdwrBoBsynd: yes04:28
bob2NeoGeo64: then go to releases.ubuntu.com to download it for free04:28
bob2synd: yes04:28
synddidnt know twhat04:28
terrythanks boys i will be back04:28
bob2_0kills: access point04:28
ajmitchthere are a few people who are paid for that04:28
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oofnikubuntu rocks too much to be completely free for the developers :)04:28
ajmitchand quite a few more who work on it as volunteers04:28
netsnipersynd, System -> Administration -> Device Manager04:28
_0killsbob2, is there a to check for it?04:28
_0killsis there a way*04:29
bob2_0kills: nevermind then, if it was your acess point, you'd know it04:29
bob2leave it blank04:29
oofniki'm going to try my init 3 i'll be back in a bit04:29
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netsnipermay be linksys04:29
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bob2among the volunteers is the lovely ajmitch!04:29
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_0killsbob2, then we will have to set it up after the install?04:30
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bob2if you don't know the essid, then it's presumably not your AP04:30
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netsniperVinh, i think your fonts look great!  no problems i see there04:30
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netsniperbob2, linksys default ssid is "linksys"04:31
ajmitchbob2: lovely? there must be something in the water over there..04:31
Varangercrimsun: are you here?04:31
bob2netsniper: yes, I know04:31
_0killsk, thanks, is there a man on essid and AP so i can learn what they are, because those are new to me04:31
Varangernetsniper: I changed it to dlink :)04:32
bob2no, there's not04:32
netsnipernetsniper, my SSID here is FUCKYOU!, to tell those wiley hackers to get lost04:32
Varanger_0kills: what do you need?04:32
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Vinhnetsniper: k04:32
_0killsVaranger, just information, i have no idea what an ESSID is04:32
drfer57eesid and ap are wireless terms04:33
Varangernetsniper: I used to have a neighbour that has a dl speed more than 10 times mine....04:33
netsniperwhat is the difference between using the temrs essid and ssid?04:33
drfer57netsniper - shame on you04:33
nalioth_0kills: AP could be "access point"04:34
Varanger_0kills: Every wireless network has a name or "ESSID"04:34
_0killsbob2, Varanger, so without setting the ESSID will his internet work?04:34
Vinh[1] +  Stopped                 ftp <-- does that mean i can resume it again?04:34
_0killsif not, how can we set it up?04:34
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bob2_0kills: no, not at all04:34
netsniper_0kills, you can set the essid to "ANY" and it will put up the one with best strength04:34
netsniperbob2, yes "ANY" will fix it04:35
jncerr... any good reason that NFS would disconnect constantly on autofs?04:35
jncthis is like a recent thing that's happening04:35
jnci don't know where to track down the trouble04:35
bob2which is not the same as "without setting the ESSID"04:35
netsniperVinh, yes, hit "fg"04:35
netsniperbob2, "ANY" is set by default04:35
davidmccabeHey folks,04:36
Vinhnetsniper: thanks04:36
davidmccabeWhen the root account is disabled, does root's crontab work?04:36
bob2davidmccabe: yes04:36
davidmccabethanks!04:37
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netsniperbob2, what do you do for a living?04:37
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Varangeram I wrong or alsa-project.org is down ?04:37
bob2I'm a programmer04:37
netsniperfor whom may i ask?04:38
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bob2www.canonical.com04:38
netsniperbut you said you were not paid?04:38
TokenBadwhat is the tmpfs that is listed when you do df -h?04:38
atholasDoes apt-listbugs work for Ubuntu?04:38
jncVaranger: looks accurate what you are saying04:38
bob2netsniper: I said I wasn;t paid to work on ubuntu04:38
jncVaranger: i cannot access the website on www.alsa-project.org04:38
netsniperTokenBad, that is your temporary file system storage04:39
bob2atholas: no, it doesn't talk to launchpad or bugzilla04:39
Varangerjnc: me too :( I need to download the sources!04:39
TokenBadits like 500 megs04:39
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netsniperbob2, you are quite vague sometimes -- what are you paid to work on?04:39
atholasbob2: is there an equivalent of that in Ubuntu then?04:39
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xxtremebob2 =  u  r  DUDE of the year.04:39
jncVaranger: Varanger try http://ftp.pl.debian.org/mirror/ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/04:39
syndlmao04:39
bob2netsniper: eh? bazaar.canonical.com.04:39
bob2atholas: no04:40
xxtremebob2= thanks for taking the time to help us04:40
atholasbob2: thanks.04:40
jncand the fish are tasty04:40
jncthanks for the fish04:40
naliothnetsniper: be careful...too many questions and bob2 will have to kill you04:40
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jncdo your worst04:41
TokenBadnetsniper, is there a way to clear it..or should i even try to?04:41
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Varangerjnc: thx .... I have some issues with alsa... can you help me ?04:41
jncWham Bam Fryin' Pan!04:41
netsniperTokenBad, do you need to?04:41
jncbad david bowie reference04:41
jncdo'oh04:41
netsniperTokenBad, it gets cleaned on boot04:41
TokenBadoh ok04:41
toddmcanyone have any experience getting Wireless working?04:42
toddmcanyone have any experience getting Wireless working?04:42
netsnipernalioth, i work for the NSA -- dont fsck with my file systems04:42
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bob2toddmc: no need to repeat04:42
netsnipertoddmc, yes, what chipset you have?04:42
naliothnetsniper: i will leave that to windoze04:42
toddmcok04:42
toddmcok04:42
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toddmcj/k04:42
naliothtoddmc: keyboard dysfunction?04:43
ziphow do i take a screenshot in Xfce?04:43
jncVaranger: i could attempt to help, in exchange for your patronage04:43
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syndzip: press the print screen button04:43
Varangerjnc: patronage? what do you mean?04:43
zipsynd: macintosh04:43
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jncsee snotice04:43
syndzip: ah04:43
toddmci can activate the wireless card eth104:43
toddmcbut i never get an IP address04:44
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quamtoddmc, what kind of wireless adapter are you using?04:44
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toddmci show 85% signal strength on the Connection Properties for eth104:45
zipso.. any idea how to take a screenshot in Xfce if you don't have a print screen key? Xfce doesnt' seem to have a keyboard configuration program like Gnome does04:45
concept10what config file sets boot up screen resolution?04:45
bob2zip: install imagemagick, run "import -root ~/screenshot.png"04:45
toddmci think its orninco....04:45
bob2concept10: none, really.  if you mean the console, you can modify that by passing the kernel command line arguments.04:46
toddmcit works fine in fedora core04:46
zipbob2: no way without installing something then? =\04:46
bob2toddmc: you've disabled WPA and WEP on the access point, right?04:46
toddmcyeah04:46
bob2zip: of course there is04:46
toddmcits wide open04:46
redirtoddmc, did you assign it it's ssid?04:46
bob2zip: gimp is another way04:46
toddmcyeah - tried that too04:46
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concept10bob2, it always starts with some 12xx X some ungodly number with alot of lines.04:47
zipbob2: i'm trying to get something like gnome's nifty Take Screenshot option =p04:47
toddmcyes04:47
johanis there a way to get my printer working with 64-bits04:47
johanthe cie does not provide the drivers04:47
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naliothzip: have you searched synaptic for "screenshot"?04:47
toddmcunless its case sensative then yes04:47
jncjohan: i've got ubuntu linux on amd6404:48
johanme too04:48
zipnalioth: trying to figure out how it's done in Xfce but.. maybe it just can't be =\04:48
jncjohan: printing works here sometimes, depending on the Breezy updates that are borked and what not04:48
johaneeeh04:48
toddmcHOLY SHIT04:48
toddmcthat was it...04:48
toddmcits case sensative??????????04:48
toddmcWTF?04:48
naliothzip: all your utilitys can be run in xfce04:49
naliothzip: they just look funny04:49
bob2zip: then complain to the xfce4 developers04:49
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toddmcdid you all know that?04:49
zipnalioth: if i knew the name of the program gnome uses to take screenshots i'd use it ;P04:49
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frequencyhavin' trouble watching movies on my DVD drive..  keeps telling me it "can't read from device"04:50
zythfrequency, did you install the restricted formats stuff for DVDs?04:50
zyth!restricted04:50
ubotuhmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats04:50
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bradequestion:  is there a way to give my user account root access to the system?04:50
frequencyy'know, that's a good question..04:50
matjan_is it difficult to set up things for a scsi scanner?04:50
naliothzip: search packages.ubuntu.com or your local synaptic04:50
quambrade: sudo command  if in a terminal, or gksudo if you do applications >> run04:51
zythfrequency, goto that url ubotu just posted04:51
frequencyroger that.. on it now04:51
davidmccabebob2: so if I drop a crontab file in /etc/cron.d, will attention be payed to it?04:51
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hidurai need help with a upgrade04:52
toddmc_bob2: did you know that the ssid was case senstive?04:52
bradequam:  other than that is there no way to give myself root access so that i have total control via the gui?04:52
matjan_i'm thinking of buying a polaroid sprintscan...04:52
bob2toddmc_: I would have assumed so04:52
DaveyANyone know of a winmerge type app for Gnome?04:52
bob2davidmccabe: should do04:52
toddmc_well poop...04:52
toddmc_you live you learn04:52
jncdidn't know polaroid was still in business04:52
davidmccabebob2: ok. thanks again.04:52
toddmc_thanks for the time..04:52
matjan_jnc:  hehe04:52
toddmc_pe a  c  e   o    u      t04:52
matjan_i'm looking on ebay04:52
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jnci didn't quite mean that to be funny04:53
quamt brade sure, sudo passwd root, set a password for root and then you'll be able to log in. to login to gnome with root, you'll need to system >> administration >> login screen setup and tell it to let root login04:53
quamignore the t :P04:53
bradefrequency:  ive got ubuntu running on a pretty old system with a dvd drive.  i followed the instructions on the link you were just given and everything works wonderfully.  one thing you may need to do is enable dma access04:53
jnci'm serious.  who needs snap shake wait and smudge when you have digital picture04:53
matjan_jnc: right...04:53
frequencyexcellent, thank you..04:53
frequencyi'm gonna run through it right now and report back to let you know if it worked04:53
matjan_jnc: film photography still produces higher res pics04:53
xxtremejnc. lmao, ur right04:53
matjan_unless you want to pay $8000 for a camera04:54
jncmatjan_: not anymore, not with the favon x304:54
jncokay04:54
jncthat's fair enough04:54
bradequam:  yeah i have that set up.  what i would like to do is give my account "user" the same control that the root user has.  ive tried adding myself to the root group but it doesnt seem to do anything...04:54
quambrade: oh :P04:54
hidurasomebody can helpme??? please04:55
naliothbrade: ubuntu is really not set up for that type of operation04:55
zythbrade, so basically, you want to ignore the point of not running a system as root and run in a very insecure method?04:55
matjan_jnc: anyways, do you have experience with scsi scanners?04:55
matjan_under linux, that is?04:55
jncmatjan_: yes, horrible things04:56
bradeyeah, didnt seam that it was.  and yes i do want to run in a very insecure method.  i love being in the drivers seat :P04:56
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pietro_spinabrade: HOWTO: Easily open any file as root via drag & drop http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2400804:56
zythbrade, ummm....04:56
zyth:/04:56
matjan_jnc: what's the trouble?04:56
bradehaha thanks pietro04:56
bradezyth:  i know, i know04:57
jncmatjan_: oh, just unstable scsi troubles with Ubuntu Breezy and amd6404:57
jncnothing i have any right to complain about you see04:57
jnc;)04:57
matjan_jnc: right... is that a flatbed scanner?04:57
hidurai cant upgrade somes packeges the apt say to me somes packeges are broken what i can do in this case04:57
jncyep04:57
matjan_ok, the sprintscan is a negative/dia scanner04:58
hidurahey nobody can helpme ????????????????>04:59
hidurai cant upgrade somes packeges the apt say to me somes packeges are broken what i can do in this case04:59
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zythhidura, do you by chance have backports in your sources.list04:59
matjan_jnc: so it was just that you didn't get the scsi-card configured correctly?05:00
epEarlier today i did apt-get kubuntu-desktop and ran into this konquer bug: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800905:00
jncmatjan_: i don't know, it stops working and i don't have time to mess with it05:00
virgulehidura: sudo dpkg -C  and  sudo apt-get -f install   ?05:01
epI'm trying to solve this and someone said It might be fixed in KDE 3.4.1 -- can anyone tell me what version kubutu-desktop installed earlier today (I've since reinstalled due to the bug)05:01
matjan_jnc: ok, but it should work, right? (no offense)05:01
unomeep, in a terminal type: kdesktop --version05:01
jncmatjan_: i don't know.  it's worked once or twice05:02
jncmatjan_: fax and scan support in Ubuntu isn't as slick as it "should" be IMO05:02
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jncthe distro is relatively new and tackling a unique segment of users05:02
jnci don't blame the distro05:02
jncit's just the way it is05:02
matjan_i get it05:03
unomeit's all about perception05:03
matjan_does that mean that you got it to work properly in other distros?05:03
jncyes05:03
matjan_for instance?05:03
epunome kdesktop is not a command?05:03
jncworks fine if i spent a lot of time customizing software and compiling from scratch exactly the tools i needed05:03
matjan_wow05:04
jnci just don't spend that kind of time on my Ubuntu box05:04
unomeep: you sure you are on Kubuntu?05:04
matjan_i'm too newbie for that05:04
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epno i'm on ubuntu  now i cant run kde due to the bug05:05
unomewhat bug?05:05
bob2I'd be very very surprised if you had to compile anything to get a SCSI scanner to work.05:05
epEarlier today i did apt-get kubuntu-desktop and ran into this konquer bug: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800905:05
matjan_bob2: you have experience with it?05:06
bob2no05:06
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epkonquer segfaults alot and sometimes shows double files!  (you dont even have to be drinking)05:06
matjan_or any scsi?05:06
hondjeep: when it segfaults, grab a core and submit it as a bug, they like core dumps05:06
xxtremeep= i ran into the same problem, so i uninstalled that, and synaptic kdebas3.4 and went from there05:07
DerumHow do I view videos embedded on MOZILLA FIREFOX, because even though I have realplayer installed on my computer it doesnt seem to want to play05:07
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xxtremeep= now mine is working05:07
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HrdwrBoBbob2: yeah assuming it's supported it should work05:07
hondjeDerum: mozilla mplayer plugin05:07
DerumI dont have MPLAYER05:07
hidurahelpme05:07
hidurathe apt putme this expeption when i try to upgrade the system some packeges will be back05:07
Derumit doesnt want to work on my computer05:07
Derumso I use either Xine or VCL05:07
bob2Derum: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:07
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bob2hidura: so, paste the error to #flood05:08
zipany suggestions to get XMMS(and any other mp3 player for that matter) to stop skipping when i'm doing other stuff? i've already increased the buffer size for OSSL05:08
abbot45ok, some moron posted some mario brothers cartoons on the usenet in a disc image format (.mdf) that was made to be used with Alcohol 120% for windows.  is there any way i can get to these files?  i cant get these programs to work in Wine.05:08
hiduraok05:08
epsorry i'm 1 day old -- does "synattic kdebas3.4" mean install kde 3.4.1 without kubuntu-desktop (just kde core and addons)?05:08
calcabbot45: that would involve helping to promote copyright violations, so no05:09
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unomeep: add deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main to your source.list > apt-get update > apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:09
frequencyzyth: that solved my DVD problem, bud..  thanks a lot!05:09
xxtremeep-yeah, and you have to install different things, example kontact and more05:09
epxxtrem do i need universal sources, how do i do the same?05:09
zythfrequency, np man05:09
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abbot45hahaha.  these cartoons are old, arent they in the public domain?  haha.05:09
xxtremeep, worked for me05:09
rifficzip: have you enabled dma on your drives?05:10
bob2abbot45: no05:10
zipriffic: my drive appears to be Ultra DMA 205:10
abbot45i know they arent.  i was kidding.05:10
epthats what i intuitively wanted to try to do -- but i didn't know how05:10
virgule:selftest:05:10
rifficwhat does hdparm say?05:10
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calcabbot45: nothing since 1920 is public domain05:10
hondjezip: sudo hdparm -d /dev/dvd05:10
rifficthats the only thing I can think of though05:10
calcabbot45: at least almost nothing anyway05:10
virguleanyone: ping me plz..05:10
abbot45i know.  i was kidding.05:10
naliothunome: what is the diff tween the kubuntu repo nad the standard ones?05:10
ugovirgule: ping!05:10
zipriffic: didn't know about that one, i was useing dmesg, checking now05:11
unomenalioth 3.4.105:11
virgulepong!05:11
rifficoh okay05:11
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abbot45i just want to punch this dude for assuming that everyone on the usenet uses windows.05:11
pietro_spinaDerum: HOWTO: Totem embeded with mozplugger  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1772705:11
naliothunome: ah, the new hotness05:11
rifficyeah try hdparm /dev/hda or whatever device your files are being loaded from05:11
ugoabbbot45: but everyone uses windows05:11
naliothunome: wonder if it'd work on my ancient ibook.. ..05:11
zipk05:11
rodrigouna pretunta05:11
riffichas there been any recent package upload activity to breezy ?05:11
zipit is using dma05:12
hondjehdparm -d /dev/foo tells you if dma is on, hdparm -d1 /dev/foo turns it on05:12
rodrigopor q dice no se puede entrar05:12
rodrigodenegado .,05:12
unomenalioth, kde 3.4.1 is less buggy05:12
riffici haven't had anything in apt-get update/upgrade in a few days05:12
budluvaanyone had problems with xmms and alsa mp3 playback with a 2.6.10-5-386 kernel?05:12
zythabbot45, I'd say the majority of usenet does NOT use windows05:12
bob2riffic: http://lists.ubuntu.com/, look at the -changes list archives05:12
naliothunome: are you using it?05:12
hondjerodrigo: se hablan espanol en #ubuntu-es05:12
unomenalioth yes05:12
zipDMA is already on though05:13
rifficoh cool thanks bob05:13
naliothunome: i'll bite05:13
unomegood luck05:13
abbot45zyth, THATS WHAT I MEAN.  why would this guy post all these cartoons in a format that can only be opened by a windows program.05:13
naliothunome: do i need it?05:13
unomenalioth need it? no05:13
zythabbot45, got a valid windows license?05:13
zythabbot45, installed qemu... install the program... open cd... convert ;)05:13
naliothabbot45: what format was that? wmv9?05:14
frequencyok, DVD drive works..  but it's a little choppy..  that means i need to activate DMA for the drive, right?05:14
ajmitchriffic: plenty of uploads happening still05:14
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CANTIKI05:14
hondjefrequency: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdwhatever05:14
abbot45nalioth, its .mdf.  i looked it up.  its a disc image used by the Alcohol 120% burning program.05:15
frequencyyou guys rock.. thank you so much..05:15
_0killsok, ive just installed Ubuntu on my brother's computer.. now we need to set up his wireless card... i typed iwconfig and it listed the card.. where do i go from here?05:15
naliothabbot45: yes that suX0rs, but it can be converted05:15
xxtremeep= everything ok so far?05:15
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_0killscan anyone help me with that?05:16
epxxtreme got a phone call, i getting right on it:) Thanks!05:16
zyth!wireless05:16
ubotuwell, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards05:16
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xxtremeep= no worries05:16
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rcec52I need some help. .. what do I have to reinstall to get my sound working again on Kubuntu? I've got an AC97 codec on-board chip on the motherboard.05:17
KillerSmurfhello all.... anyone here know anything about wacom?05:18
zipare there any decent M client options besdies GAIM that support both AIM and MSN?05:18
jbroome_0kills: look in System > Administration > Networking to configure your NICs05:18
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zythzip, Kopete, Miranda IM05:19
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zipzyth: isn't miranda only for Windows?05:19
zythumm I didn't think it was, but I could be wrong05:20
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KillerSmurfhello all.... anyone here know anything about wacom?05:20
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DerumRealplayer doesnt want to work for my system I installed it via "sudo apt-get install realplayer" and though it says that it installed the program itself doesn't pop up or work05:20
Derumwhat should I do?05:21
rcec52Try Mplayer05:21
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DerumMplayer doesnt work on my machine for some odd reason05:21
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abbot45you have to download the linux version of real player from www.real.com.  its an executable bin file that will install it for you.05:21
BinaryHelixWhat is the slowest processor I can have to still run Ubuntu with xfce (the gui)05:22
SiKeeIm running it on a pII 300 and it runs just fine05:22
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abbot45well, you dont have to, you can open real media files in like MPlayer or Totem.  but the official works the best usualy.05:22
Derumk abbot45 thanks05:22
naliothwow 147 updates05:22
rcec52Anyone have any idea's about getting sound to work again with AC97 codec?05:22
naliothunome: you are driving up my bandwidth bill05:22
KillerSmurfanyone here know anything about wacom? namely wacomcpl05:22
xxtremeBinaryHelix> im running my home machine, its a P2 with 128mb, works fine05:22
unomenalioth pardon?05:23
SiKeeDerum, try running realplay from an xterm and see if any errors come up05:23
nalioth unome just joshin ya05:23
budluvarcec52, im having problems playing mp3s with ac97 and alsa05:23
BinaryHelixxxtreme: can you run torrents with that setup?05:23
unome=)05:23
budluvarcec52, actually, its trying to play anything, i have no sound at all05:23
xxtremeBinaryHelix> oh yeah............05:23
DerumSikee, it doesnt say anything just stays blank05:23
nalioth!sound05:24
ubotunalioth: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about05:24
naliothstupid bot05:24
budluva!alsa05:24
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, budluva05:24
BinaryHelix!alsa05:24
rcec52My sound use to work when I was running Ubuntu 'Gnome' but wanted to get KDE to work. . . that's when the problem started.  .05:24
xxtremeBinaryHelix> what you thinking of running it on?05:24
budluvarcec52, did it work right from your installation? or did you have to tweak to get it to work?05:24
BinaryHelixxxtreme: the least expensive laptop I can find05:25
rcec52Worked from the initial installation of Gnome. ...05:25
naliothbudluva: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary05:25
_0killsubotu, i looked up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards and all it said is that the card works great, doesnt give me any more information05:25
ubotu_0kills: I think you lost me on that one05:25
budluvanalioth, thanks05:25
naliothBinaryHelix: you in the market?05:25
xxtremeBinaryHelix> get a ibm T22, there cheap and great for linux05:25
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xxtremeBinaryHelix> or T2105:26
BinaryHelixnalioth: xxtreme: not until sometime next month when I can get the money05:26
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naliothBinaryHelix: you hardware agnostic?05:26
_0kills...05:26
jbroomeOMG i'm on a t21 now. :)05:26
rcec52Kubuntu has a few bugs. .. for instance. ..my Wifi card would install then it lock up and I couldn't reinstall the initial menu settings so I went to Gnome then back to KDE. Now the Wifi works fine. . . .05:26
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KillerSmurfanyone here know anything about wacom? namely wacomcpl05:27
BinaryHelixnalioth: ... explain.05:27
naliothBinaryHelix: you can get a long-lasting well-made laptop for a very inexpensive price at my favorite place05:27
jbroomeBack of the van in an alley? :)05:27
naliothBinaryHelix: www.apple.com/store   (look for the red 'sale' tag at the bottom right)05:27
BinaryHelixxxtreme: what kind of prices were thinking?05:27
rcec52Anyone running a 64 bit Amd with this software?05:27
naliothjbroome: nah, thats my neighbors05:28
netsniperapple is cheap hardware and way overpriced...05:28
naliothrcec52: not me, but whats your question?05:28
xxtreme BinaryHelix> u can find under $500, easy05:28
netsniperrcec52, i have ammd64 -- but not running ubuntu6405:28
naliothnetsniper: yes it is cheap (but they use very good glue)05:28
rcec52None really. . . I was wondering how up to date and bugfree it is. . . .05:28
jbroometo be the complete devils' advocate, i have a PB and a TP.05:28
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crimsunpenut better?05:28
crimsunpeanut^05:28
naliothjbroome: toilet paper?05:29
jbroomeshush you05:29
crimsun:P05:29
xxtreme BinaryHelix> wait let me check05:29
jbroomethinkpad, powerbook05:29
naliothah TP = thinkbook05:29
jbroomepowerpad?05:29
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naliothjbroome: what kind of TP?05:29
netsniper...fir my bunghole05:30
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Redwraithhey all05:30
jbroomenalioth: T2105:30
netsniperhey you05:30
rcec52I've been running Suse 9.3, Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Mepis, Linspire and have tried to get Gentoo, FreeBSD, and installed but couldn't get Debian to work with my WiFi card. . ..05:30
Redwraithanyone know how to get my sound card to work with esd so i can use amarok05:30
Redwraithor just get amarok working?05:30
naliothjbroome: that run ubuntu ok? does it have builtin wifi?05:30
naliothRedwraith: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary05:31
Redwraithty05:31
jbroomenalioth: running ubuntu a-ok right now.. doesn't have built-in wifi.05:31
rcec52Anyone here try Mepis?05:31
KillerSmurfdoes anyone know where the wacomcpl setting are stored?05:31
jbroomeit's a p3 800, so it's time was before te builin05:31
KillerSmurfrcec I did05:31
rcec52What ya think of it?05:31
xxtreme BinaryHelix> $489 at tigerdirect.com TP T2205:31
naliothrcec52: i used to mepis it, b4 ubuntu showed up05:31
KillerSmurfI liked it but I like ubuntu better05:32
naliothy'all think the modern TPs built in wifi works with ubuntu?05:32
Redwraithhmm nalioth that doesnt help05:32
jbroomenalioth: my boss is running ubuntu on a brand new T42 and it works great05:32
netsnipernalioth, i know they do -- i have a t3005:32
rcec52I'm having mixed feeling. ...I think maybe when 'Breezy' comes out Kubuntu will be better. . . But I feel Mepis now is alittle ahead with the software. . .05:32
KillerSmurfanyone know ANYTHING about wacomcpl...?05:33
naliothwell then....add that to my wish list05:33
BinaryHelixthanks guys05:33
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naliothrcec52: kde 3.4.1?05:33
jbroomeKillerSmurf: i do not05:33
Redwraithany other ideas?05:33
rcec52Yes, I have 3.4.1 I believe  installed with Mepis. . .  .05:34
KillerSmurfrcec I think that when I tried 3.1 it was ok but nothing that knocked my soxs off05:34
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KillerSmurfThanks jbroome05:34
netsniperKubuntu Hoary was crap due to the bugs when doing an update, whichbasically forced you to run a custom script to repair thins05:34
Redwraiththe card is a soundblaster live05:34
budluvacan someone help me with a bittorrent question? im running a windows machine and my ubuntu box, with firestarter as my firewall using internet connection sharing, i have my windows machine setup with azureus using port 49153 and i've add my port forwarding rule for this port/machine and i do a NAT test with azureus and it says OK! but i get NAT errors when doing the same test on my ubuntu machine using azureus on port 49154, do i have05:34
budluva to port forward for my ubuntu machine aswell?05:34
Redwraithnothing but alsa works in xmms.. no ubuntu sounds nothing05:34
naliothrcec52: so do we05:34
rcec52Don't get me wrong I think Ubuntu is pretty darn stable and Gnome is a good desktop to run. . .05:35
naliothbudluva: yes05:35
AmaranthRedwraith: So run System->Preferences->Multimedia Systems Selector and tell it to use alsa05:35
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budluvanalioth, what ip do i forward it to? i've tried localhost and i still get nat error05:35
Redwraithamarok still wont play05:35
Redwraith:|05:35
Amaranthdoes amarok use gstreamer?05:36
Redwraithit can05:36
Amaranthtell it to05:36
Redwraithbut i was trying to configure it with xine05:36
naliothbudluva: i'm not up on port forwarding, but any machine behind a firewall needs to see out05:36
Redwraithshould my sound card work with esd?05:36
Amaranthor get a GNOME player like rhythmbox or muine to go with your GNOME desktop05:36
Redwraithi guess i could05:36
Redwraithi want something that works with an ipod05:36
xxtremebudluva, you need to make a rule in firestarter, for bittorrent05:37
netsniperRedwraith, rythmbox does05:37
_0killsjbroome, still there?05:37
jbroomeyeah05:37
Redwraithalright.. well lets solve hte gnome sound problem05:37
netsniperRedwraith, you cna also grab gtkpod05:37
Redwraithmultimedia selector i test anyof them and none of them work05:37
rcec52I'm wishing some of these OS's will make some of the newer unknown packages part of their software repositories. ...Anyone know of 'HUGIN'? or 'SKY CHARTS'?05:37
Redwraithalsa, esd05:37
Redwraithnone05:37
_0killsi went to system> administration> networking and no window would come up05:38
Redwraithbut xmms plays05:38
KillerSmurfanyone know ANYTHING about wacomcpl...?05:38
budluvaya, i have port 49153 forwarded to 49153 for ip 192.168.0.2 (windows machine) and i have port 49154 forwarded to 49154 for ip localhost (ubuntu machine) xp machine works fine, but i get a nat error on my ubuntu machine05:38
netsniperKillerSmurf, http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/wacomcpl05:38
naliothbudluva: can you open it all up to your ubuntu machine?05:38
Redwraithnetsniper: any idea?05:39
budluvanalioth, can 2 machines share the same azureus port?05:39
Redwraithfailed to construct test pipeline05:39
epOk, Im back -- I added respositories exactly as outlined on the unoffical ubuntu 5.04 starting guide.  I hope this is ok.05:39
jbroome_0kills: did it ask for your password?05:39
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naliothbudluva: i'm not sure of your setup. do you have a gateway machine, a router + 2 machines or what?05:39
netsniperRedwraith, maybe it is using OSS05:40
naliothep: was that the ubuntuguide?05:40
_0killsjbroome, nope, it says in the window list: Starting Networking.. but then it just stops and nothing happens05:40
Redwraiththat doesnt work either05:40
budluva2 machines, using ubuntu as my gateway/firewall, my ubuntu box has 2 nics, eth0 INET and eth1 LAN05:40
epnalioth, i did this: http://ubuntuguide.org/index.html#extrarepositories05:40
Redwraithnetsniper: isnt using it either05:40
naliothep put on the brakes05:40
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epshucks:05:41
naliothep: ubuntuguide is not correct and will lead you into heartbreak05:41
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nalioths_dogep: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3805:41
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ep Opps i already did update -- but  I can reinstall :-)   This is pretty fresh05:42
naliothep: see that URL05:42
naliothep: you havent done anything bad ... yet05:42
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naliothep: but backports/marillat can cause your system to not upgrade properly05:42
naliothep: no need to reinstall, just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list05:42
_0killsyou guys know if there is any reason the Networking window wont appear (when i click System> Administration> Networking it doesnt load).. should i reinstall Ubuntu?05:43
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naliothbudluva: open your ubuntu machine completely up to the world05:43
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Expellanyone knows any billing client/server for internet cafe use?? thanks before05:43
naliothbudluva: crank down on the windows box as much as you like05:43
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epok like i said, i ran update already --- so edit it by commenting out the two backport lines?05:43
naliothep: yes that is fine (and any marillat lines, too)05:43
epok05:43
naliothep: and while you're there, enable your deb-src lines05:44
epok05:44
_0killsanyone, please?05:44
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IceDC571wow.. we've got our own ubuntu pasting website now?05:44
IceDC571interesting05:44
rcec52What's the reason that Kubunt and Ubuntu repositories are slow to update to the lastest files for some apps. . .05:44
sabbathhow do you untar a tar.bz2 ?05:44
Redwraithalright, anyone know WHY the sound isnt working?05:44
naliothrcec52: they are being pkgd by ubuntu devs05:45
IceDC571rcec52, um.. ive found it to have the latest apps everytime i check it05:45
naliothsabbath: tar xvjf file.tar.bz205:45
sabbaththanks05:45
rcec52For instance ClamAv is an old outdated version and they haven't updated it in the repositories. . .05:45
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rcec52Firefox has a version number problem according to Mozilla website. .. .05:46
naliothrcec52: ours does not05:46
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IceDC571its only outdated by one version number down05:47
rcec52Ours does not what?05:47
naliothrcec52: ours is 1.0.2 with the security patches rolled into it (from 1.0.4)05:47
rcec52Have you tried to install any of the new attachment files for Firefox?05:47
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IceDC571it should automatically update to 1.0.4 when you update apt-get05:47
IceDC571even though there was nothing quite wrong with 1.0.205:47
nybbleah, sweet sweet ubuntu05:47
rcec52Adblocker,weather, etc. ..05:48
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naliothrcec52: all that stuff works fine for me05:48
sabbathdo I need to get java after I install?05:48
naliothrcec52: although i don't use ff much05:48
nybblercec52: what program are we talking about05:48
naliothsabbath: do you have java programs?05:48
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sabbathyep05:48
shadeofgreyhi everybody05:48
flowhi guys.. im new here..05:48
rcec52FireFox webbrowser. . .05:48
nybbleshadeofgrey: hey05:49
sabbathsudo apt-get install java ?05:49
IceDC571nalioth, what browser do you use?05:49
nybblehey flow, need some help05:49
shadeofgreyis there an opensource program for saving the contact info stored in Cellphones?05:49
flowyea..05:49
IceDC571shadeofgrey, yep.. forgot the name though, sorry05:49
nybbleapt-get install sun-jre or soemthing05:49
flowdo you know how to open the ports for azureus?05:49
nybbleflow: with?05:49
naliothIceDC571: i use galeon05:49
epI comment out the 2 backport lines but none of the lines contain "marillat"05:49
nybbleflow: do you have a router05:49
flowtried firestarter.. but its still the same05:49
naliothIceDC571: and sometimes kazehakaze05:50
flowyea.. done port forwarding with the router itself05:50
budluvaapt-get install sun-j2re1.505:50
IceDC571nalioth, wow.. never heard of that before.. ill go look it up05:50
naliothep: great05:50
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nybbleflow: hmmm. I got fed up with it so i'm using *cough* upnp05:50
flowgetting good speed in windows..05:50
shadeofgreyokay guys -- howdo you think i should procede with trying to migrate all my cell phone contacts to a folder on my harddisk?05:50
rcec52How do you get software updates to work with Azureus. ..? It doesn't work withing the program. ..at least mine doesn't. . .05:50
flowyea.. mine doesnt05:50
nybbleflow: thats odd, same box right?05:50
flowyea05:50
nybbleflow: the windows instal.05:50
nybbleah05:50
naliothep: nothing wrong with using marillat or backports "for one program", but disable them after you get "the one program"05:50
shadeofgreyi bought the data cable and everything but of course the only proprietary software available uses outcrook05:51
nybblehmm...05:51
epah ok05:51
naliothIceDC571: kazehakaze is in the repos05:51
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nybbleflow: are you using the default ports?05:51
naliothIceDC571: kazehakaze is a japanese gecko wreapper05:51
flowyea05:51
naliothwrapper05:51
_0killsnalioth, are you familiar with any bugs... such as the Networking window wont load...05:51
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epnow im adding the source u gave me from the paste bin  but i'm not sure where they belong05:51
flowshould i change the ports?05:51
nalioth_0kills: sorry i am not05:51
nybbleflow: give that a try. it just might help05:52
epsources there are 6 lines05:52
IceDC571wow.. a search for kazehakaze in google returned a bunch of mailing lists and forums.. no homepage listing05:52
_0killsnalioth, np thanks05:52
KillerSmurfnetsniper I have tried that but I have a question about wacomcpl05:52
epjust paste em all in at the end of the file?05:52
nybbleflow: its a tricky program sometimes05:52
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naliothIceDC571: search for it using apt-cache showpkg kazehakase05:53
netsniperKillerSmurf, sorry dont know man05:53
netsniper:-(05:53
KillerSmurf:<05:53
sabbathcan someone help me install java?05:53
KillerSmurfu still rock snipe05:53
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KillerSmurfsure sabbath05:53
nybblesabbath: have you tried this: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre05:54
nybblesudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.505:54
IceDC571ahh.. its kazehakase with an s at the end05:54
nybblebrb.. have to restart05:54
KillerSmurfthen java -version05:54
flowtried some random port that i didnt port forward.. and it seems to work05:55
sabbaththanks05:55
nybbleflow: oki. its weird eh..05:55
nybblebrb.05:55
sabbathI did a sudo apt-get install java-common hope thats not bad =\05:55
flowyup.05:55
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killfillhi05:55
killfillhow do i install java?.. is there a ubuntu .deb somewhere?  if not, can i make one myself easyly?05:56
epnalioth, can i just comment out all existing lines and paste int the 6 you gave me from the pastebin link?  Theres a bunch of similar lookin urls here:)05:56
IceDC571www.ubuntuguide.org for all your how do i install needs05:56
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nybbleback05:56
nybbleflow: so it is working now?05:56
naliothep surely05:56
naliothIceDC571: please do not recommend ubuntuguide05:57
IceDC571nalioth, sorry.. why not?05:57
KillerSmurfanyone have any wacom experience05:57
nybblei am the one who did05:57
killfillhm..05:57
nalioths_dogkillfill: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 05:57
sabbathep: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.505:57
nybblesabbath: you have to add extra repositories, sorry. listen to nalioths_dog05:57
KillerSmurfsabbath do u have extra repositories loaded?05:58
naliothIceDC571: read number 3 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines05:58
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syndanyone use a USB 2.0 WiFi dongle?05:58
syndwith ubuntu?05:58
sabbathno, I dont think sp.05:58
sabbathso05:58
epok done no update and upgrade?05:58
bassinboyman i can't find any repos that have the good stuff.... like libdvdcss ...... note i'm on teh 6405:58
ep*now update and upgrade?05:58
nybbleah, good point05:58
KillerSmurfif anyone can help me with a wacom issue pm me please05:58
nybblesorry guys i wont reccommend it again05:59
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naliothep: yes05:59
IceDC571nalioth, thank you so much. i wasnt aware of this05:59
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naliothIceDC571: np05:59
kde>_>05:59
kde<_<05:59
kde^_^05:59
epthanks a bunch, got a question afterwards05:59
nybblenalioth: thanks aswell05:59
kde*runs*05:59
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chombeeHi - I seem to be doing pretty well in terms of multimedia, codecs etc, just using the sources.list from the 5.04 Starters Guide. I don't have the hoary-extras repository. Can anyone tell me what is actually in that repos and why I might want it>05:59
killfillthanks!06:00
nybblenalioth: and i just used that ten minutes ago :(06:00
bassinboyany ideas where i can get the good stuff? like azureus or dvdcss06:00
naliothchombee: please dont use the ubuntuguide recommendations06:00
nalioths_dogchombee: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3806:00
sabbathhowto add extra repositories?06:00
naliothchombee: using that info, can lead to your system not upgrading properly06:00
hondjeman, this hotplug is off the wall06:00
nalioths_dogsabbath: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:01
sabbathty06:01
naliothbassinboy: libdvdcss is in multiverse06:01
epok i guess even after this, there is 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed,06:01
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naliothep: because you caught it in time (before it really got into your system)06:02
nybbleanyway.. g2g peoples06:02
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nybblebyee06:02
chombeenalioth - how so? it doesn't appear to contain anything non-official06:02
epthats a good thing!06:02
naliothchombee: read number 3 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines06:02
nybble#06:03
nybbleDo NOT recommend people to use ubuntuguide.org, there are several reasons for this:06:03
nybble    *06:03
nybble      Ubuntuguide.org presents wrong solutions, ranging from suboptimal solutions to pure regressions.06:03
nybble    *06:03
nybble      Ubuntuguide.org is not really a guide, but a mere list of command you might enter. It gives no explanations at all06:03
nybble    *06:03
nybble      All information on Ubuntuguide.org is present on the wiki in clearer and better form06:03
nybblei should not have done that06:03
nybblelol06:03
naliothnybble: please DO NOT flood (we have #flood for that)06:03
epwhat i'd like to do next is install kde-base plus some meta packages.  Is this ok cause I really don't want to try kubuntu-desktop again06:03
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ajmitchcorrect, you shouldn't paste like that :)06:03
naliothep: do as you like06:03
bassinboynalioth: but for amd64?06:03
naliothep it is your system06:04
budluvahow would i go about getting a key for my ssh server?06:04
naliothbassinboy: enable your repos and have a look06:04
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nalioths_dogbassinboy: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3806:04
nybblenalioth: sorry, i actually did not mean to paste that here..was intended for an im window06:04
naliothbassinboy: you might be surprised what's there06:04
nybblewoops06:04
flithmhey everyone... is it just me is is there no nedit in the ubuntu repositories?  what's up with that?06:04
naliothflithm: nedit is there06:05
chombeewell, okay, don't use Ubuntu Guide... but the sources.list they give doesn't have any outside repositories in it, I'm just trying to find out what is actually in hoary-extras?06:05
flithmnalioth, how come i can't install it with apt-get, or find it with apt-cache search?  do I have my apt setup wrong?06:05
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naliothflithm: i'm not sure, i found mine there06:06
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tyoungI've installed xfe4 and some other window managers, but regardless of what I select at login, I still get gnome.  Can anybody point me to a clue on this problem?06:06
nalioths_dogflithm: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3806:06
naliothflithm: make sure your sources.list looks like that06:06
flithmnalioth, nice thanks yo!06:06
IceDC571nalioth, the wiki is very interesting.. usually i stay away from wikis since they are not very user friendly and hard to understand.. but the ubuntu wiki looks so complete and interesting06:06
naliothchombee: i don't even know what hoary-extras is06:06
doonzhey guys is there a way to turn off that cd creator program so that when i insert a blank cdr it does nothing?06:06
chombeeit's on the wiki, and it says it holds unofficial multimedia codecs, but i seem to have all the codecs06:07
IceDC571doonz, yep. hang on06:07
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naliothchombee: to my knowledge there is no need for hoary-extras (i believe it is unofficial)06:07
epWe'll I'll take the advise of someone experienced too:)  Do u recomend do kubunto-desktop instead?  Earlier today i got a segfaulting kongueror bug and found bug report describing it. Someone said KDE 3.4.1 was a fix but i dont' know what version i had earlier06:07
budluvadoonz, sup fooker, you not working either? :P06:08
doonzfawk you06:08
doonz:)06:08
maedoes ubuntu have plans to add the native eclipse like fedora?06:08
bassinboynalioth *shrugs*.... still no libdvdcss06:08
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Expellerr, anyone knows any linux apps source beside sourceforge? sourceforge's currently down.....06:08
budluvaive been on my ass for 2 weeks now, this sucks I HATE RAIN!06:08
IceDC571doonz, are you using gnome?06:08
doonznaw my job down in drumheller got cancelled cause of the flood06:08
doonzice yes06:08
naliothbassinboy: its libdvdcss006:08
budluvadoonz lol yeah they got it gooood06:08
Kamping_Kaiserexpell freshmeat06:08
IceDC571doonz, go to system > preferences > removable drives and media06:09
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naliothep that is for 3.4.106:09
budluvadoonz, you at oinks right now?06:09
doonzyep06:09
doonzok ice06:09
epwhat did i have earlier?06:09
doonzthnx ice06:09
naliothep: dunno06:10
naliothep: but you wanted the fix06:10
bassinboyE: Couldn't find package libdvdcss006:11
IceDC571doonz, did it help you? im not sure if it could stop burning apps from launching if thats what you wanted06:11
doonzyep it did06:11
IceDC571ahh okay.. good06:11
Expellyeah... that one... :)) thanks kamping_kaizer06:11
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epyes, im just not sure what the fix is:  xxtreme said "xxtreme ep= i ran into the same problem, so i uninstalled that, and synaptic kdebas3.4 and went from there"06:12
naliothbassinboy: did you update your apt-get (if you changed your sources.list)06:12
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naliothep: perhaps xxtreme didnt know the url of the new stuff06:13
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bassinboynalioth: indeed06:13
naliothbassinboy: well i'm not sure, most amd64 users don't ask about libdvdcss06:13
epok, i'm gonna try kubuntu-desktop then06:14
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naliothbassinboy: so i'm assuming they have it06:14
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thechitowncubshey06:15
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epand goes for it06:15
IceDC571good luck06:15
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xxtremenalioth, you say take out backports in repositories06:17
naliothxxtreme: i say only use them for a single program you want, and then comment them back out06:17
naliothxxtreme: because everyday use will sooner or later botch your upgradeability06:17
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xxtremenalioth, oh ok, also marillat06:17
naliothxxtreme: yes any unofficial repository06:18
xxtremenalioth06:18
xxtremethanks06:18
IceDC571marillat killed my ubuntu system on my laptop06:19
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bob2it didn't "kill" anything06:19
bob2at worst it can make some things (temporarily) uninstallable06:19
IceDC571well maybe i was exagerrating06:19
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xxtremebob2= what u think happen then06:19
bob2"you"06:19
IceDC571it got to the point where i couldnt install the official packages correctly06:19
bob2I don't know what problem you are talking about06:20
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bob2right, that's what "uninstallable" means06:20
_0killsyou guys know if there is any reason the Networking window wont appear (when i click System> Administration> Networking it doesnt load).. should i reinstall Ubuntu?06:20
IceDC571bob2 is smart!06:20
bob2so, don't use non-ubuntu repositories if you don't know to fix problems like that06:21
IceDC571_0kills, try running the command 'network-admin' in the terminal06:21
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_0killsIceDC571, thanks06:22
_0killshey, are ESSID and SSID the same?06:22
epOk to us kdm now that i'm kde'ing it?06:23
MoatDo I need to reinstall ubuntu-desktop after it got uninstalled when I removed OO to try OO 2.0 beta.06:23
naliothep: KDE works under gdm just as well06:23
IceDC571_0kills, i can confirm that ESSID is the same as SSID06:23
_0killsthanks06:23
naliothMoat: ubuntu-desktop is necessary for upgrading06:24
epi know, i'd prefer kdm unless theres some reason i should choose gdm06:24
MoatWhen I try to reinstall ubuntu-desktop it looks like it wants to reinstall OpenOffice 1.306:24
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naliothMoat: good question06:25
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xxtremeep= u got it install yet06:25
bassinboyany amd64 users?06:25
epno i'm at the prompt having a drink06:25
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epjust one moment06:26
_0killsIceDC571, we're having trouble installing Ubuntu on my brother's computer. in the beginning of the install, when it looks for the network, it asks me for the ESSID, i have tried typing ANY, and tried typing default, but nothing seems to work.. what do i do at this point?06:26
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IceDC571_0kills, does ubuntu support your wireless device natively?06:27
eppretty hefty download06:27
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_0killsIceDC571, yes, the wiki states that the card 'Works great!'06:28
epbrb, gotta end this session06:28
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penguinboywww.penguinboy.us06:28
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syndhow do i set sudo hdparm -d1 -X34 /dev/hdd to execute everytime a boot?06:28
gm78Has anyone noticed Ubuntu (not Linux in General) doesn't play nice with routers?06:29
Expellwhat router?06:29
jgoguenwhat problems?06:29
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gm78D-Link DI-524 (not using Wireless) and SMC VBR700406:30
IceDC571_0kills, it might not work due to the same reason the networking ui wont work if you try to launch it from the panel06:30
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IceDC571_0kills, when you launch it from the terminal does it give you any errors?06:30
jgoguengm: what's the problem you're having?06:30
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syndhmm ubuntu wont eject my disk...?06:30
gm78Most webpages don't work. www.lwn.net is an example. Works fine in Knoppix, CentOS, Windows and Ubuntu plugged right into the cable modem...but Ubuntu through the router is a no go06:30
synddvd disk06:30
bassinboyany amd64 users?06:31
epxxtreme, In like Flynn06:31
tecofake64?06:31
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tecono,never06:31
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naliothsynd: is it on the desktop?06:31
_0killsIceDC571, we have to reinstall Ubuntu, cant load the terminal right now, in the middle of the install :\06:31
metzendoes ubuntu use a different version of synaptic than debian?06:31
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syndnalioth: no06:31
IceDC571_0kills, alright. let me know if you need any help from there06:31
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_0killsIceDC571, k, thanks man, i appreciate it06:32
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teco754...939.... oh,I am waiting 97806:32
epKde is just snappier, the wonders of c++ or QT ?06:32
gm78Is there any reason at all Ubuntu, and only Ubuntu, would not like to view most webpages through a router06:32
epbloated code is quicker:)06:32
jasmuzep: qt06:32
tecoqual channel06:32
naliothsynd: try from a terminal eject /dev/cdrom (and there are many things to enter here)06:32
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syndnalioth: that worked!06:33
epso far so good, thanks for the help Nalioth06:33
tecoQtsqual/quad/06:33
amonkeywhat's the linux equiv of ipconfig /release; ipconfig /renew06:34
tecos/qual/quad/06:34
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crimsunamonkey: ifdown $interface; ifup $interface06:34
naliothnp, yall06:35
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gm78One computer happens to work, and thats cause i set up a virtual server on the router for America's Army, the rest don't.....this is rididulous, 2 routers with 3 other operating systems work and this one can't....I'm thinking of downgrading to Warty06:37
epis that pastebin site with the souces listed permanent?   I want to record the url in my install notes.06:37
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chris_I have a Toshiba Satellite 1735 laptop with a new Ubuntu install. It works fairly well with two issues so far: Sound and video. Sound I can work on later and have gotten working in the past with linux, but video always seems to be limited to 800x600, although windows does 1024x768 without a problem. Any suggestions?06:45
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chris_Video card is a Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x06:46
djschris_: This might help you (see below)06:46
djs!resolution06:47
ubotumethinks resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:47
chris_Thanks, I'll check it out06:47
djsyw :)06:47
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syndhow do i set sudo hdparm -d1 -X34 /dev/hdd to execute everytime a boot?06:47
syndi boot*06:47
hondjesynd: edit /etc/hdparm.conf06:49
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chris_thanks djs, looks like one of these will fix it. I'll give it a try tomorrow.06:49
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djschris_: np.  Note that if you need to run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" it asks a lot of questions.  The default answers are usually pretty good.06:50
tristanmikeHello06:50
syndugh my cdrw drive skips oddly when trying to play CDs06:51
doonzwhat a good program to burn bin and cue files with06:51
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syndsetting the DMS to on does nothing.. unless i have to reboot after i set the dma to on06:51
syndDMA*06:51
crimsundoonz: bchunk->cdrecord, cdrdao06:51
doonzthats installed in ubuntu already06:51
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syndanyone?06:52
cycomwhy the hell does my clock run at more than 2x normal speed?06:52
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Expellwow06:52
hmsmarianoeveryone!06:53
Expelloverclocked?? :))06:53
rezzcobainCan anyone help a linux noob install java on ubuntu?06:53
cycomno, like system time06:53
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cycomnot the actual processor06:53
hondje!java06:53
ubotuit has been said that java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java06:53
Expelllol..... ic :)06:53
syndrezzcobain: ubuntuguide.org is a good place to check too06:53
Expellaccellerated aging... :p06:53
cycomit's crazy. supposedly I need a system clock hack06:53
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hmsmarianocan anyone help me with fsck and "busy devices"?06:53
Expellrezzcobain: http://ubuntuguide.org/06:54
hondjehmsmariano: unmount them first06:54
rezzcobainWell my problem is that im so new to all of this I dont quite understand what im reading06:54
hondjeubuntu guide is full of lies and bad ideas....06:54
SpecialBuddyhas anyone here been able to put kooldock on kubuntu06:54
Koiyes06:54
Expellhmm .... it works for me.... (so far) :)06:54
rezzcobainI was hoping to get someone that could help me learn06:54
syndhondje: not for newbies : P06:54
hmsmarianoyeah hondje06:54
syndit helped me so much06:54
Expelland by the way, ubuntu's not my primary linux distro :p06:54
hmsmarianoit doesn't let me do it06:54
hondjehmsmariano: what partition?06:54
hmsmarianojust says "busy device"06:54
hondje Your root partition?06:55
hmsmariano/dev/hdd106:55
tristanmikerezzcobain: have you installed the repositories?06:55
syndtime for a reboot to see if this works06:55
bassinboyman i can't find libdvdcss :-/06:55
hondjehmsmariano: easiest way is to open up a terminal after saving your work and running 'sudo shutdown -Fr now'06:55
SpecialBuddydo you know how to install kooldock or anything else like that06:55
rezzcobainTristan I dont even know what or how06:55
hmsmarianowhat does -Fr means?06:55
hondjehmsmariano: that'll reboot and force it to fsck it06:56
hmsmarianookeyyyy hondje06:56
merchey all, im trying to run Azureus jar via java -jar, however i recieve this errror -- Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/cli/CommandLine06:56
hmsmarianothat's it06:56
Koikooldock is there a .deb package?06:56
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mercanyone have any idea what's up?06:56
SpecialBuddylet me06:56
SpecialBuddycheck06:56
hmsmarianothanks hondje, i'll try right now06:56
hondjehmsmariano: no problem06:56
SpecialBuddyI don't think so06:57
doonzcrimsum i installed bchunk,,, how do i work it now?06:57
tristanmikerezzcobain: You'll have to edit you're sources.list06:57
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schasiIs there something like packages.debian.org for ubuntu?06:58
crimsunof course.06:58
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crimsuns/debian/ubuntu/06:58
doonzcrimsun i installed bchunk,,, how do i work it now?06:58
tristanmikerezzcobain: have you been to ubuntuguide.org?06:58
bassinboywhere in the world is libdvdcss?06:58
SpecialBuddyconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH06:58
SpecialBuddywhat does that mean06:58
rezzcobainYes, however I learn better from experience then reading :(06:59
crimsunbassinboy: multiverse or debian-marillat/testing06:59
schasicrimsun: does not work06:59
crimsunSpecialBuddy: install build-essential06:59
tristanmikeI understand completely06:59
jgoguenrezzcobain: ubuntuguide.org gives you step-by step directions for installing Java06:59
crimsundoonz: read the man page06:59
djsschasi: s/org/com :)06:59
tristanmikeIt's hard to understand when you know nothing06:59
schasiubuntu is com? woa06:59
tristanmikeI know, I just went through the learning experience06:59
crimsunschasi: what doesn't?07:00
tristanmikerezzcobain: open up the terminal07:00
bassinboycrimsun: can't find it... i dvd went to the http and looked for it07:00
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crimsunbassinboy: come again?07:00
bassinboycrimsun: do you know a certain server that has it? all the ones i've tried dont07:01
schasithank you crimsun07:02
PlutoPrimehi, why would the "New Login" option suddenly stop working to switch between users?07:02
doonzthanx crimsun07:02
PlutoPrimenot only that, now when I switch between users in gdm, aka logout as user x and login as user y it hangs loading gnome07:02
PlutoPrimeI haven't made any changes... and it just broke??07:02
PlutoPrime:(07:03
crimsunbassinboy: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/07:05
tristanmikerezzcobain:?07:05
davidmccabeOSCON is in my town... wonder what the chances on sneaking in are.07:05
bassinboycrimsun: thanks! :)07:05
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bassinboycrimsun: should i add  that to my sources.list somehow?07:06
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Koiyou can add sources through synaptic gui or edit the sources list with nano07:06
crimsunbassinboy: those instructions are on wiki/RestrictedFormats (and probably on the ubuntuguide as well)07:06
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ghostlessIs there somekind of app that will give me a OSX like dock thing? Preferably in gnome?07:07
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gobeavsin C, how do you make the system pause for a certain amount of time?07:08
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lifelessgobeavs: carefully07:09
teco|731hehe07:09
lifelessgobeavs: man 3 sleep07:09
gobeavsis that in linux or windows?07:10
gobeavssorry, shoulda specified07:10
gobeavsfor windows07:10
lifelessoh, don't recall07:10
gobeavssystem("Pause 1") or something like that?07:10
gobeavsI think07:10
lifelesssee msdn, search07:10
lifelessno, theres a Win32 API call for it07:11
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Eman_rpghello everyone07:11
lifelessdepends if you want a GUI or console safe tool too07:11
teco|731syscall in shell .... windows07:11
teco|731?07:11
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gobeavsonly console07:12
teco|731it's too far for windows07:12
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teco|731msdn,osdn,csdn...07:12
jayparadisechrist07:13
jayparadisethey removed a dead fetus from a boy07:13
Koi...07:14
Koik07:14
jbroomelink!07:14
Koitorrentplz07:14
jayparadisehttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4624307.stm07:14
teco|731?07:14
teco|731what news?07:14
metzengobeavs, why are you asking about 'C' questions for 'Windows' in the ubuntu linux channel? ;p07:15
teco|731(because his boss...)07:15
jbroomemmm, parasitic twin07:15
jayparadisei don't think windows has many channels07:15
jayparadiselol07:15
jbroomenot on freenode07:15
teco|731(daily FUD is important)07:15
=== djs was intrigued by that too (the C on windows bit that is :) )
jayparadisei havent seen an irc windows channel07:16
teco|731#windows07:16
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teco|731or join sh*t-star07:16
Koiim having problems with setting up raid1 - when I make the array grum then hangs at 1.5 with error 1807:16
jayparadisewow thats ironic07:17
Koiyah07:17
Koigrub*07:17
gobeavsmetzen: lol...I don't know07:18
gobeavsmetzen: wanna pick a fight? :-P I have nowhere else really to look07:18
gobeavsmetzen: thought I might as well ask, and I actually didnt think about the windows part until after I posted it :-P07:18
metzengobeavs, ill slap you with the 5 fingered sleep07:18
metzengobeavs, threaded07:18
_0killsIceDC571, i typed network-admin in the terminal and it didnt work07:19
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Koiany one knows about setting up raid07:20
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metzen0kills: any error message?07:20
gobeavsKoi: nope, sorry :(07:20
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_0killsmetzen, no, it seemed like it was processing but it did nothing07:21
teco|731what's raid?07:21
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jayparadisewhats the pastebin url?07:21
KoiRedundant Array of Independent Disks07:21
metzen0kills: did you run it as root?07:22
Expellindependent? or inexpensive??07:22
Koiboth07:22
jayparadisei just had to reinstall after an odd system meltdown and i need the aptsource list07:22
metzenExpell, inexpensive was the original term07:22
Koii got then on sale07:22
Expell:))07:22
Koiyah07:22
jayparadiseso i  can get back on kubuntu07:22
Expellbyeee......07:23
_0killsmetzen, no, ill try that07:23
jasmuzKoi: google it07:23
Koii did07:23
Koii had extra bad luck with is07:23
Koiit*07:23
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metzenKoi: look for info on raidtools, and md07:24
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merchas azureus been removed from the repos or something?07:24
djsjayparadise: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/07:24
crimsunmerc: it was never in the repos.07:25
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merccrimsun: oh, damn ubuntuguide!07:25
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zooplehey. trying to update firefox. it says that i "do not have permission to install to: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox"07:25
locomortosudo?07:26
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crimsunmerc: it may have been in an _unofficial_ repo, but it has never been in the official Ubuntu repo.07:26
mercah07:27
_0killsmetzen, good call on using root, it worked, thanks man :)07:27
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ranekmetzen, thanks that's what was needed. We forgot to use the Sudo command07:27
metzen0kills: nice, you may have a problem with gksudo not working correctly07:27
_0killshehe, sup ranek07:27
mercanyone know what this java error is all about? -- Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/cli/CommandLine07:27
metzen0kills: it should be prompting you to enter the root password when you run network-admin07:27
ranek_0kills, not much need to know how to privet chat though07:28
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_0killsmetzen, yea, we got it figured it07:28
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_0killsranek, sent you a private message07:28
metzenmerc: is that .class file on your CLASSPATH ?07:29
mercwell, i doubt it07:30
mercare the class files the org/apache/commons etc?07:30
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metzenare you using a .jar file from apache or something?07:30
mercazureus..07:30
mercbut yeah, its a jar07:30
unome!hotplug07:32
ubotuunome: I give up, what is it?07:32
scarlettechocan anyone help me get MPlayer?  I've been at it all day and no luck.07:32
crimsunscarlettecho: you can get mplayer from multiverse07:32
scarlettechocrimsun, I'm a complete newbie.  could you elaborate?07:33
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crimsunscarlettecho: make sure you have the multiverse and universe repositories enabled, then in a Terminal, type: sudo aptitude install mplayer-586=1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu607:34
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fr500hello07:34
=== Efwis night everyone, time to sleep
amonkeymerc, i get that problem when i compile something with jdk but then try to run it with the runtime07:35
Xyc0too early for sleep07:35
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Xyc0sleep plenty when im dead07:35
amonkeymerc, try using the java executable that came with jdk07:35
fr500does anyone know a free ftp where i can upload stuff? i want to test my upstream bandwidth, console only07:35
lwsay i wanna blow away /opt/LimeWire/, what is the cmd?07:35
mercamonkey: ahh..k07:36
fr500lw, rm -rf /opt/LimeWire07:36
fr500as root07:36
Xyc0everything is free on linux07:36
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lwXyc0, free, as in free beer07:37
lwXyc0, for the most part07:37
fr500Xyc0, it's not "free" and thats not whay i asked07:37
Xyc0mmmmm beer07:37
Koihmm free beer07:37
Koiok so im i little better i found mdadm07:38
Xyc0free beer is ok, but good beer is worth it07:38
lwhow do i make a launcher that does the "force quit on next click" action?07:39
lwlike in gnome07:39
lwbut i wanna be able to do that in xfce07:39
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Xyc0xfce, is that any good?07:40
Xyc0Ive never tried it07:40
lwXyc0, yes07:40
lwXyc0, good on older to semi-older hardware07:41
lwXyc0, i love it07:41
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Xyc0how big is the install for it? would it fit on a flash drive?07:41
lwits not that big07:41
metzenXyc0: its nice, not as full featured as gnome, someone people dont want all the gnome bloat, but its not as stripped down as some of the really bare WMs like fluxbox or openbox07:42
jasmuzXyc0: Xfce rocks07:42
lwxfce is my fav of all07:42
Xyc0I will have to try messing with it07:42
lwXyc0, sudo apt-get install xfce407:42
Xyc0yea, i was looking at that last night07:42
lwXyc0, or go into synaptic and search for xfce and youll find a ton of plugins07:42
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Xyc0rgr07:42
lwi use it on a p3 1ghz07:43
lwand a p3 650mhz07:43
Xyc0all day i dream about sex yes all day i dream about sex07:43
amonkeyadidas?07:43
Xyc0all day i dream about fucking!!!!!07:43
amonkeyi havn't listened to korn in ages07:43
Xyc0that song is just too awsome tho07:43
lwwatch the lang07:43
Xyc0Im listening to Family Values Tour07:43
Xyc0I apologise lw, I dont belive in censorship07:44
Xyc0they do offer some fine filters for IRC07:44
jbroomeyeah, they usually have @ in front of their names07:45
lwXyc0, this isnt a chat channel07:45
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Xyc0its a general channel, calm down07:46
anarky99Seveas: :)07:46
anarky99morning07:46
lwXyc0, no07:46
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anarky99Xyc0: whats the problem?07:46
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Xyc0anarky99: none, just chilling, seeing who needs help07:47
Xyc0anarky99: Why?07:47
syndXyc0: all day i dream about fucking!!!!!07:47
anarky99 < Xyc0> its a general channel, calm down07:47
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dunjahow can I get m4a's to play07:47
syndcomments such as that are not needed07:47
dunja?07:47
crimsundunja: you need libfaad* and faad*07:47
Xyc0oh ha synd was freaking out about me typing lyrics to ADIDAS07:47
synddunja, im not exactly certain, but i dont believe AAC protected play on linux..07:48
crimsundunja: both from debian-marillat07:48
syndXyc0, most certainly didnt "freak out"07:48
dunjahow do I install them?07:48
dunjaI'm new with linux07:48
crimsundunja: read wiki/RestrictedFormats07:48
IceDC571dunja, goto system > administration > synaptic package manager and search for those packages to install07:49
Xyc0synd: You certainly put a lot of effort into portraying my act as being non-helpful.07:49
IceDC571dunja, but right now i would recommend you read the ubuntu wiki07:49
dunjaok wait which packages?07:49
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syndXyc0, Stop. You made an unneeded comment. I told you to watch your language. End of story.07:49
dunjawhats ubuntu wiki?07:50
synd!wiki07:50
synd!restricted07:50
uboturestricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:50
Xyc0synd: I continued a little further then that if I recall, but yes lets leave it be.07:50
dunjaalright07:50
dunjathanks07:50
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syndhttp://139.55.40.76:8000/ - if anyone is interested in tuning into my podcast07:53
syndnicecast* i mean07:53
Xyc03ddesktop is an awesome desktop toy if anyone wants to show off how awesome Linux is07:53
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IceDC571decss is illegal in the US? lol07:53
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scarlettechocrimsun, thank you.  I followed your advice and finally got it.  Much thanks!07:53
hondjecould you imagine differently? :)07:53
IceDC571ahh.. nothing is free in this country07:54
Xyc0Death is free07:54
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crimsunscarlettecho: np07:54
k1having some trouble following this tut for installing ipw2200 drivers http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623 can anyone help?07:54
hondjeYour 1040 forms are free :)07:54
Hans001hi07:54
Xyc0its the only thing you have to do in life... die07:54
IceDC571hah.. thanks Xyc007:54
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hondjeThey just give those out like candy07:54
syndPrison is free.07:54
synd: >07:54
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Hans001can anyone explain to me the difference between debian and ubuntu ?07:54
k1I get to making the drivers and get this error: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.07:55
Xyc0awsomeness07:55
syndHans001, in a nutshell, ubuntu is much like debian, except it got all the things right taht debian got wrong07:55
hondjealright, me and synd can make conbuntu07:55
Xyc0Hans001: Ubuntu is more focused on practicality and usability07:55
Hans001synd, explain more07:55
hondje*in a desktop environment07:55
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crimsunk1: why are you trying to compile the ipw2200 drivers?07:55
crimsunk1: they're already included with Hoary07:56
IceDC571Hans001, well im a linux newb but ubuntu is a sugar coated version of debian.. debian is a base of linux and ubuntu fixes, preconfigures, automates a lot of things the new user would want in a distro07:56
Hans001so ubuntu might not contain some of the packages that debian distro has ?07:56
Koimdadm --create --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb107:56
Xyc0Hans001: Debian is focused on adaptablilty with new hardware07:56
Koierror opening /dev/md0: No such file or directory07:56
k1my internet drops out if it's not constantly doing something, so I was told to try these drivers07:56
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Hans001IceD nice07:56
crimsunk1: you need to install linux-headers-$(uname -r)07:56
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Hans001when i ask in debian07:57
Xyc0Hans001: Ubuntu uses the Internet to install all the other packages through apt-get07:57
Hans001they start asking me about my distro07:57
matt_whats a good prorgram for playing windows media p;ayer files07:57
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syndmatt_, rhythmbox07:57
Hans001Xyc u mean building the whole system?07:57
syndmatt_, vlc07:57
syndmatt_, totem-xine07:57
matt_what do you think is better07:57
lancer285does anyone have cinelerra working in ubuntu?07:57
Hans001but with a dialup i would need the Cds badly07:58
syndmatt_, are they audio or video?07:58
Hans001and leave the apt-get throught the net for smaller apps07:58
IceDC571but if you want to start from scratch, configure everything, dont want any pre-configured add-ons.. then debian is for you07:58
Xyc0Hans001: No, i mean ubuntu installs everything Debian does, but through a single disk instead of the 7 debian uses07:58
mercanyone care to recommend a bittorrent client -- besides azureus?07:58
matt_video07:58
sysrqmerc: bittorrent07:58
syndHans001, the Ubuntu CD comes with most everything one needs07:58
IceDC571merc, gnome bittorrent?07:58
Xyc0merc: Azureus giving you troubles?07:58
mercXyc0: java, actually, but bah07:58
Hans001cool07:58
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Errejoanyone know when the next ubuntu release is?07:59
crimsunoctober07:59
IceDC571did gnome bittorrent actually come with ubuntu? i'm surprised.. very nice07:59
Xyc0merc: I belive gnome has a bittorrent manager07:59
syndErrejo, oct07:59
Errejothanks07:59
merccool, thanks yall07:59
Hans001so, ubunto preconfigured, automated, where debian stops, ubunto continues07:59
Hans001i got the idea now,07:59
syndHans001, for the most part07:59
Xyc0Hans001: your close07:59
hondjefor a desktop07:59
Xyc0Ubuntu is not as fast as Debian is at getting out new software08:00
Xyc0Debian has a larger dev team too08:00
syndahh i love nicecast and vnc08:00
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Xyc0But ubuntu is awsome at making things practical08:00
doonzwill gnomebaker convert a wma file into a file that can be burnt as an audio cd?08:00
Hans001but if debian got a software i tink ubuntu sers can install it08:00
syndHans001, yes08:01
syndHans001, but generally not recommended because things might break08:01
Xyc0^08:01
hondjeUsually with little work work, but not as-is08:01
sugoruyohey folks can you guys help me set up my audio card??????08:01
crimsunsugoruyo: what card?08:01
Hans001u know it is a nice idea08:01
Xyc0sugoruyo: what is the card?08:01
matt_whats a good plugin for wmv08:01
sugoruyoaudigy es08:01
syndanyone listen to Uberzone?08:02
crimsunsugoruyo: give me the line from lspci -v08:02
Hans001because debian rocks, the only one thing that everyone complains about it is u need to configure everything which hard for a newbie08:02
Xyc0sugoruyo: are you using digital out?08:02
lancer285guys, is there a .deb package for cinelerra??08:02
sugoruyono08:02
Hans001seems this is fixed and in the end it is good for debian itself08:02
matt_whats a good mozilla plugin for wmv08:02
sugoruyoi just want sound from a standard pair of pc speakers08:02
Xyc0Hans001: Debian Rocks = Ubuntu Rocks08:02
Xyc0sugoruyo: alsamixer08:03
Xyc0sugoruyo: type that in terminal08:03
Hans001i like the idea08:03
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Xyc0sugoruyo: you can mute and unmute all the other channels08:03
maewhats the name of the wireless applet that ubuntu has08:03
syndtime to go play in #macosx08:03
Hans001how many Cds availble for ubuntu?08:03
crimsunXyc0: please don't suggest that.08:03
Hans001I think i will download it08:03
Xyc0crimsun: .... its how to do it08:04
djsHans001: One08:04
sugoruyowould it work without me installing something?08:04
sugoruyocrimsun, 0000:02:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)08:04
sugoruyothis is one08:04
Hans001does it have kde or i will have to get it from ubuntu respitories08:04
crimsunsugoruyo: please pase the output from amixer onto pastebin.com08:04
sugoruyooops sorry08:05
crimsunXyc0: no, he simply needs to unmute the 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack'08:05
Xyc0thru alsamixer08:05
sugoruyoit also finds the on-board audio which i think is AC9708:05
sugoruyowait a sec08:05
crimsunXyc0: he can use any mixer, really08:05
crimsunXyc0: the important part is that he toggle that default setting (in Hoary)08:05
djsHans001: If you want KDE.  Have a look at "kubuntu" - http://www.kubuntu.org/08:06
Hans001ok08:06
Xyc0does Kubuntu use the same repos as ubuntu?08:06
locomortoyes08:07
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Xyc0then one should be able to install KDE via apt-get08:07
sugoruyolook i have 2 audio cards it seems08:07
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Adrossis there anyway to stop nautilus saving the location of where each folder was opened when you use it, so it doesn't jump around and whatnot?08:07
sugoruyoone on-board and the audigy08:07
Xyc0sugoruyo: make sure everything is set to the audigy then08:07
sugoruyothing is when i go into alsamixer i see Intel ICH5 as my audio card08:08
sugoruyowhich obviously refers to the m/b card08:08
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sugoruyoi can't get pastebin to load...08:08
Xyc0sugoruyo: ah your right, does that to my lappy too08:08
mikassugoruyo, try alsamixer -c 108:09
sugoruyoi'll use the one in the topic08:09
sugoruyonow i get sound blaster audigy as the audio card08:10
sugoruyoi should just play with the volume settings?08:10
mikassugoruyo, try those08:10
mikasmaster, pcm and front were low for me with my audigy08:11
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Xyc0sugoruyo: No need, look for the Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack08:11
sugoruyoi found it08:11
sugoruyobut it has no bar08:11
sugoruyoit says its off08:11
Xyc0press m08:11
sugoruyook it got green08:12
Xyc0that mutes and unmutes it08:12
sugoruyoshouldn't i get a bar though?08:12
Xyc0should work ok08:12
IceDC571no bars means its just a switch08:12
Xyc0nah, you can adjust the surround settings if you want the side speakers louder tho08:12
sugoruyohow do i test sound now08:12
Xyc0play some music08:12
regeyaindeed08:12
Xyc0or click shet to make sounds08:12
sugoruyoi got none on the disc08:12
Xyc0.....08:13
regeyaboopy08:13
IceDC571anyone know a free video i could download to test my totem player?08:13
regeyaoy vey.08:13
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regeyaanyone have some free porn I can use to test pornview?08:13
crimsunsugoruyo: play a wav file in /usr/share/08:13
crimsun/usr/share/sounds/  rather08:13
jasmuzpornview hahah08:13
Xyc0you put in a fav cd08:13
IceDC571regeya, are you serious?08:14
IceDC571lol08:14
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mikaslol08:14
regeyaporn is so hard to find08:14
IceDC571not really08:14
Xyc0IceDC571: What are you trying to test?08:14
mikasregeya, and you can't test it with any other pics? :)08:14
regeya*whizz*08:14
IceDC571Xyc0, the sound in my totem player seems not to be working, i just want to make sure08:14
regeyathat's the sound of something flying over IceDC571's head; not sure what it was.08:14
Xyc0regeya: www.empornium.us08:15
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mercXyc0: puretna.com is better imo ;)08:15
dougskhttp://tinyurl.com/85fgc has some theora files from the gaudec talk08:15
crimsunporn is way offtopic. Keep it outta here, please.08:15
Xyc0IceDC571: www.ubuntuguide.org08:15
IceDC571Xyc0, are you serious?08:16
Xyc0IceDC571: that site will help you do alot on ubuntu08:16
zythhow do I change the default program for opening mp3s on my system?08:16
regeyasorry, crimsun, and sorry, all, for the sarcasm, since it seems to have been lost on EVERYONE.08:16
IceDC571we're not supposed to recommend ubuntuguide! i dont need help lol08:16
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dougskIceDC571, why not? it's a great resource.08:16
gm78Hey all. Wanna hear something funny (as well as embarrassing)??? That router problem ive been complaining about for days was a problem with my setup of firestarter :P08:16
IceDC571Xyc0, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines read #308:16
IceDC571dougsk, read it too08:17
tagdoes ubuntu have apt?08:17
crimsunregeya: I don't have a problem with it, but some others may, and we cater to those others.08:17
crimsuntag: yes.08:17
tagthats what I thought08:17
gm78tag, yes, ubuntu is based on debian and has apt08:17
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sugoruyonothin comin out the speakers08:17
IceDC571I got slammed for recommending ubuntuguide in the first place from the admins here08:17
dougskIceDC571, bah. It works, it's in one nice page, I'll admit marillat is probably not that great to install right now08:18
Xyc0IceDC571: wow I quit linux.  ubuntuguide.org helped me so much more then anything ubuntu put out officially.  I will not stand by idly while elitist oppress the inexperienced08:18
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crimsunsugoruyo: did you ever paste the output from amixer onto pastebin?08:18
sugoruyocrimsun, i told u i can't get onto pastebin08:18
sugoruyoi used the one in the topic08:18
crimsunsugoruyo: there are many pastebins08:19
unomeupgrade time!08:19
crimsunsugoruyo: just tell me the url you used08:19
sugoruyopaste.ubuntulinux.nl08:19
crimsun(the full url)08:19
IceDC571Xyc0, i agree actually.. but the admins kill me everytime i mention it08:19
sugoruyoit's in the topic...08:19
Xyc0sugoruyo: just use pastbin's main site08:19
crimsunsugoruyo: (no, your paste)08:19
sugoruyowait08:19
Xyc0IceDC571: then let them do their job, and Ill do mine08:19
sugoruyoi haven't used a pastebin before08:19
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crimsunIceDC571: / Xyc0: there is NOTHING wrong with recommending ubuntuguide, but always add the disclaimer that it's unofficial.08:20
sugoruyohttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/25308:20
Xyc0crimsun: dido08:20
regeyathat'd be a great thing for the /topic, crimsun08:20
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Alia25Happy bday to me! :D08:21
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topyliheh. congrats08:21
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IceDC571Alia26, is that your age?08:21
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Xyc0Alia26: Ha ha you should do that in every channel untill your Alia10008:22
Alia26yep ;)08:22
fr500can i use htb to throttle down upload traffic?08:22
Alia26i hope i don't go that far08:22
crimsunsugoruyo: is that all the output from amixer?08:22
gobeavsanyone else want xfire ported to linux? :(08:22
sugoruyou think something's missing?08:22
crimsunfr500: you sure can08:22
sugoruyomaybe i missed it08:23
IceDC571xfire? hmm..08:23
taggm78: During the ubuntu installation it you have to provide a root password right?  (the answer should be "duh" I would think but a non-unix-person friend of mine installed ubuntu and I'm trying to help him, he doesn't seem to know his root password)08:23
sugoruyoi'll repaste08:23
fr500crimsun, i set a qdisc just like the one i use for download, and i try an upload, it doesnt work08:23
gobeavstag: no, no root password08:23
crimsuntag: no, there's no place to provide a root password, only a normal person's password.08:23
tagoh really?08:23
fr500crimsun, it's a sameple rate limit08:23
gobeavstag: yeah, only the users password for sudo08:23
IceDC571Fedora installation crashes everytime i install it.. maybe its a sign, i should stay away? hahah hmm..08:23
tagso to switch to uid 0, he doesn't need a password he just enters blank?08:23
tagoh08:23
tagso to get uid 0 he needs to use sudo?08:23
tagthat's awfully strange08:24
gobeavsubuntu uses sudo08:24
crimsunfr500: did you follow a traffic-shaping guide?08:24
Xyc0tag: Ubuntu uses Super user operations, no need for root08:24
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gobeavsyou could do "sudo passwd root"08:24
gobeavswhich gives you the option to get a root password, for normal su08:24
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fr500crimsun, not totally, just the basics, but the download throtthling works great08:24
IceDC571would sudo rm -rf * destroy my whole filesystem?08:25
fr500IceDC571, depends on what folder are you in :p08:25
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IceDC571i thought recursive.. oh wait im stupid. haha08:25
IceDC571it would only destroy folders from there on08:25
fr500crimsun, may i pm u with what am i using?08:26
sugoruyocrimsun, ok i repasted it but it's the same...08:26
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tagOk08:27
tagin ubuntu; where is the apt sources list?08:27
crimsunfr500: you're better off following a (better) traffic shaping guide08:27
crimsuntag: the same place it is in Debian, /etc/apt/sources.list08:27
Gumbydoes anyone here know of a decent network application that will show all wireless AP's present at a given time and allow me to select it by just clicking on it?08:27
metzentag: /etc/apt/source.list08:27
IceDC571so it would be 'sudo rm -rf /*' ?08:27
fr500crimsun, yes i know, i'm just testing for now, but i don't know why it isnt working08:27
lancer285what do I need to play quicktime movies??08:28
metzenIceDC571: thats a dangerous thing to paste in a newbie help channel08:28
tagdoes he have to use sudo to edit it?08:28
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jasmuzlancer285: w32codecs08:28
IceDC571lancer285, w32codecs08:28
IceDC571ahh you beat me to it08:28
Xyc0lancer285: the quicktime codecs08:28
crimsunsugoruyo: ok, then we'll upgrade alsa-source.08:28
jasmuzhaha!08:28
lancer285lol, thanks08:28
crimsunsugoruyo: enable the universe repo, then install linux-headers-$(uname -r), build-essential, and alsa-source08:28
tagis there a single mode visual editor installed by default in ubuntu?08:28
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taglike ee; pico; something like that.08:29
sugoruyocrimsun, how the f* do i do all that (i'm just starting)08:29
Xyc0tag: gedit?08:29
housetiergedit08:29
sobersabrehi. why my splashy started being smaller than my monitor ... ?08:29
metzentag: nano08:29
crimsunsugoruyo: wiki/UniversePackages08:29
lancer285what package are the w32codecs in??08:29
crimsunsugoruyo: sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) alsa-source08:29
jasmuzgood night people08:29
IceDC571am i the only one who uses vi instead of nano?08:30
topylilancer285: w32codecs :)08:30
Xyc0lancer285: sudo apt-get install w32codecs08:30
crimsunIceDC571: no, everyone else in the world uses emacs.08:30
djsIceDC571: No :)08:30
metzenIceDC571: no way08:30
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sobersabreIceDC571, you must feel very special. but vi sux. it is old. use vim !08:30
mikasi use vim :)08:30
sugoruyowait i think i enabled the universe repo reading that (we don't say it's name) guide08:30
IceDC571vim? hmm...08:30
crimsunsugoruyo: better ensure you _have_ enabled it :)08:31
Xyc0gedit is good unless you are trying to look cool while editing files08:31
djsOn ubuntu vi is linked to vim08:31
sobersabregedit is great too. but if you work with X08:31
maupernedit is the way to go ;)08:31
IceDC571gedit floods my terminal with unnecessary strings08:31
tagis there an ubuntu apt source that includes mplayer or can I just give him the debian unstable ones?08:31
lancer285Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:31
lancer285This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or08:31
lancer285is only available from another source08:31
lancer285E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate08:31
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sobersabreIceDC571, this is because you let it to.08:31
Xyc0lancer285: dont paste in channel08:32
lancer285sorry08:32
IceDC571oh do i? lets see08:32
sobersabreIceDC571, and you don't have to be neanderthal, you can run gedit without typing gedit.08:32
Xyc0lancer285: www.ubuntuguide.org08:32
Octanehow would i forcibly remove a package, like in yum --force08:32
sugoruyocrimsun, i have uncommented the 2 lines indicated in sources.list08:32
sugoruyowould that be enough?08:32
crimsunsugoruyo: hopefully the appropriate 2 lines ;)08:32
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Xyc0lancer285: click the link, How to install Multimedia Codecs?08:33
djstag: Add multiverse to the repositories08:33
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sugoruyocrimsun, deb http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe08:33
IceDC571wait, gedit doesnt leave crap in my terminal anymore.. wow.. i never noticed that08:33
crimsunsugoruyo: looks good08:33
sugoruyocrimsun, & the 1 below with -src08:33
sugoruyoso what's the next step?08:33
gehelHello ! I'd like to start gaim each time I login under X11. Where should I do that ?08:34
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crimsunsugoruyo: I gave you the next step; scroll up and execute that aptitude command08:34
IceDC571last time i was using fedora and it gave me a bunch of gtk warnings when i launched gedit from the terminal08:34
IceDC571i love Ubuntu!08:34
Xyc0lancer285: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs  sorry forgot i could send that link08:34
DarkfusionWill Ubuntu detect and configure properly if connected to an HDTV?08:34
monchichigehel: just leave gaim running, logout and check "save .."08:35
Xyc0IceDC571: yea, i tried pushing FC, but ubuntu makes so much sence08:35
lancer285Xyc0 thanks for the help!08:35
Xyc0lancer285: sure, take a look around that site, it helps a ton08:35
sugoruyocrimsun, ok dling about 40 megs08:36
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lancer285Xyc0, totall, i'll BM it.08:36
IceDC571Xyc0, well.. the 4 cds download everytime they release a new version is enough to make me switch08:36
gehelmonchichi, right, I didnt think of that one ! Thanks ! But I'm still curious, where is it saved ? I thought there  was a .xinitrc, but cant find it back ...08:36
Octanecan someone please tell me how i could forcibly remove a package that has deps08:36
IceDC571apt-get for rpms.. hehehe08:37
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Xyc0IceDC571: you only need to use 3, and there are workarounds where you dont have to burn them to disks.  But overall, ubuntu is focused on practicality, where FC4 is focused on testing new software for RHE08:38
sugoruyocan anyone tell me something about non-english support?08:38
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fr500crimsun, i think you need imq for ingress shaping08:39
concept10Octane, why do you want to do that08:39
fr500crimsun, still a lot to red fegt08:39
fr500left08:39
djsOctane: Typing "dpkg --force-help" in a terminal window gives some pointers08:39
monchichigehel: there is ~/.gnome2/session-manual, or there is also a gui editor in system->administration->sessions or something like that, im not in gnome right now so im not sure exactly08:39
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monchichigehel: i think you can use a .xinitrc too, but dont do that, i think that would make gaim will run before gnome-session08:41
gehelmonchichi, ok, thanks a lot ! I'll have a look at ~/.gnome2 ...08:41
IceDC571im really waiting for gaim to support direct connections properly08:42
topylisugoruyo: there are local groups. there are also #ubuntu-xx channels on freenode on several locales08:43
Octanedjs: thank you08:43
Xyc0IceDC571: DC on gaim works well with other gaim users08:43
djsOctane: yw08:43
IceDC571Xyc0, nice.. now i gotta get all my windows friends to switch08:44
IceDC571i wonder if its possible to run wine with the old aim versions08:44
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sugoruyotopyli, thanks but there's no -el channel08:44
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topylisugoruyo: you have to found one :)08:45
sugoruyotopyli, well i would if i was good enough with linux..08:45
sugoruyotopyli, and also if the locals hanged out more on freenode08:46
Octaneugh, now i cant apt-build install cuz its missing a dep08:46
sugoruyotopyli, it's something to do with fonts i think08:46
topylisugoruyo: advertise your channel on local media and hopefully the gurus will come chat on it08:46
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sugoruyotopyli, local media don't give a dime about computers and especially linux'08:47
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sugoruyotopyli, i could try founding one with a friend from debian-dev on the local irc network though08:48
topylisugoruyo: perhaps the local debian community could even help :)08:48
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sugoruyotopyli, in the meantime i just need the ability to read/write greek in abiword/openoffice08:48
sugoruyotopyli, i doubt that08:48
sugoruyotopyli, they're mad at ubuntu08:49
taguhm08:49
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tagwhy would apt in ubuntu ask for a cdrom?08:49
sobersabresugoruyo, you need to be a leader, to be kool... so people wanna be like you... and hang around with you ...08:49
sobersabreand about greek... just define the proper locale, and install greek fonts.08:49
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monchichitag: check your /etc/apt/sources.lst08:50
sugoruyosobersabre, what's that got to do with debian folks being mad at ubuntu?08:50
IceDC571http://www.finnie.org/stuff/ubuntu-porn/ i found this while searching ubuntu in google image search08:50
djstag: to save you bandwidth - if the version of the package you're installing is the same as on the install CD08:50
sugoruyosobersabre, it's the installing fonts i don't how to do...08:50
monchichitag: and comment out the cd08:50
Octanelol IceDC57108:50
IceDC571why does ubuntu have people modeling naked?08:50
sobersabresugoruyo, apt-get install ...08:50
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sobersabrethen in oo08:50
monchichiwhats wrong with people modeling naked?08:50
sugoruyosobersabre, go on go on08:50
IceDC571nothing :)08:51
sobersabreyou have a oopadmin or oopadmin2 ( depends on the version )08:51
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topylisugoruyo: sometimes debianites don't like ubuntu that's true. it's not always true on the local level though08:51
sobersabreand u need to point it to the fonts.08:51
sugoruyotopyli, well it is particularly true on MY local level08:52
sobersabremaybe you need to run this padmin tool as root.08:52
sobersabreplay with it.08:52
topylihrm08:52
sugoruyosobersabre, can u give some guideline on what to do with this?08:53
sugoruyoi had done this in the past but i forgot :(08:53
sobersabreit is GUI. what guidelines do you need!?!?08:53
sobersabrego to font's , add, select, apply , ok blablabla08:53
Octaneafter i do an apt-build is there a way to force install what i just built from source08:53
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s0n1cm0nk3yanybody know a good serv and channel to ask about windows managers?08:54
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topyliOctane: if you built it on your box, it should install cleanly i'm sure :)08:54
sugoruyosobersabre, i only see font replacement08:54
sobersabreno.08:54
topylisugoruyo: you have the wrong tools08:54
monchichis0n1cm0nk3y: about window managers in general or a specific one..?08:55
s0n1cm0nk3yin general08:55
sobersabrethere is special SPadmin tool in ubuntu it is named oopadmin08:55
s0n1cm0nk3ystill deciding08:55
s0n1cm0nk3ypref flux and gnome08:55
sugoruyoin oo.org help it says i got to use ./spadmin in the oo.org dir08:55
crimsunsugoruyo: finished installing yet? I have to sleep soon.08:55
sobersabresugoruyo, and you need to run it via sudo08:55
sobersabreto be root.08:55
sugoruyocrimsun, sorry i'm on 384k adsl08:55
sugoruyocrimsun, i'm going full speed but i need some time08:55
sugoruyocrimsun, 2 more minutes08:56
s0n1cm0nk3yLOL08:56
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s0n1cm0nk3y....sorry, watching monty python and the holy grail as i talk on irc08:56
s0n1cm0nk3yput that up so there wasnt any confusion on what i was laughing at08:56
sugoruyosobersabre, i still get the same stuff08:56
monchichis0n1cm0nk3y: umm.. i dont know? are you looking for developers? try #e #fluxbox #gnome etc..08:57
s0n1cm0nk3ymonchichi : just a place to ask questions08:57
sobersabrei am sorry... press all the buttons until you get to the fonts.08:57
monchichis0n1cm0nk3y: ask here :)08:57
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sobersabrei won't launch it now. no way08:57
parabolizes0n1cm0nk3y: ask08:57
s0n1cm0nk3ylol08:58
s0n1cm0nk3yokay08:58
mercxwinman.org has lots of screenies etc08:58
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mercwith links to homepages blah blah08:58
s0n1cm0nk3ywhoops08:58
parabolizelol08:58
mercxwinman.org has lots of screenies etc08:58
s0n1cm0nk3yhehehe, accidently canceled out08:58
s0n1cm0nk3yokay first off08:58
s0n1cm0nk3ydoes flux support transparent panels?08:58
gallonegrohmm anyone know they can help me fix my sound, it sounds like its mono, and sratchy08:58
gallonegroand its not the speakers08:58
sugoruyosobersabre, i go to oo.org08:59
sugoruyohelp08:59
sugoruyoand it says open ./spadmin from installpath.08:59
topyligallonegro: ooh. hi-fi console beeps :)08:59
sugoruyowhat is the installpath for oo.org08:59
sugoruyo??08:59
monchichis0n1cm0nk3: yes, but its panel isnt really a panel..08:59
s0n1cm0nk3yi know it kind of does, but i mean like full transparent08:59
sugoruyocrimsun, ok done08:59
s0n1cm0nk3yso i can just have the font08:59
sugoruyocrimsun, what now??08:59
gallonegrohuh, no mp3, cd's and everything else sounds like crap09:00
crimsunsugoruyo: cd /usr/src && sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source09:00
crimsunsugoruyo: choose "no" for PnP, "yes" for debug, and the emu10k1 driver09:00
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monchichis0n1cm0nk3: im not sure, i havent used in a long time, i think so though, you can set the opacity to 0 in the menu09:00
sugoruyoi did now what?09:01
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s0n1cm0nk3ymonchichi : how you configure it, i tried using it on ubuntu, but all i got was a blank right click menu09:01
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s0n1cm0nk3ymonchichi : do you have to modify a file or something/09:01
crimsunsugoruyo: sudo tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz2 && cd modules/alsa-driver && sudo debian/rules binary_modules KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) KVERS=$(uname -r)09:02
monchichis0n1cm0nk3y: i really dont know... try #fluxbox09:02
s0n1cm0nk3yk09:02
s0n1cm0nk3ymonchichi : umm.....then i could ask you about gnome, or are you not using gnome/09:02
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monchichis0n1cm0nk3y: i use gnome and e17 ;)09:03
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parabolizes0n1cm0nk3y: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docbook/en/html/09:03
sugoruyocrimsun, damn man, that's a lot of stuff....09:04
s0n1cm0nk3ymonchichi : whats e17? enlightenment?09:04
parabolizeyes09:04
parabolizenew enlightenment09:04
topylicrimsun: heh. that's a one-liner. just paste it in :)09:04
sugoruyocrimsun, what exactly am i doing right now?09:04
crimsunsugoruyo: you're taking over the world.09:05
sugoruyocrimsun, lol09:05
topylisugoruyo: i menant you, not crimsun ^09:05
crimsunsugoruyo: seriously, though, you're compiling a new driver version09:05
sugoruyocrimsun, ok09:05
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sugoruyotopyli, i wasn't talking about the typing09:05
topylisugoruyo: you actually want to know. that's good09:05
sobersabrecr09:06
sobersabresugoruyo, did u add the fonts ?09:06
sugoruyotopyli, no big deal, it just started churning out thousands of lines with filenames & stuff09:06
sugoruyosobersabre, no yet09:06
sugoruyosobersabre, when i'm done crimsun who needs sleep :)09:06
sugoruyosobersabre, i think i know the problem though09:07
sugoruyosobersabre, i need to run it from the installpath09:07
sugoruyosobersabre, seems there's 2 spadmin programs09:07
sobersabredo u have ooo2 or ooo ?09:07
s0n1cm0nk3ymonchichi : so what is e17?09:08
sugoruyosobersabre, 1 in ~ & 1 in /usr/lib09:08
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sugoruyocrimsun, ok done09:09
sugoruyocrimsun, what now?09:09
monchichis0n1cm0nk3y: its the new enlightenment09:09
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parabolizes0n1cm0nk3y: http://enlightenment.org/Enlightenment/DR17/index.html09:10
crimsunsugoruyo: ls ../*.deb09:10
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monchichis0n1cm0nk3y: still under development, but mostly functional09:10
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sugoruyocrimsun, ok i say a deb file, i think i just created it...09:11
s0n1cm0nk3ysounds sweet09:11
crimsunsugoruyo: sudo dpkg -i ../*.deb09:11
phyzhi09:11
phyzhuhuhuhhuu09:11
phyzhelp me pls09:11
phyzi needed help09:11
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sugoruyocrimsun, ok installing09:11
parabolizes0n1cm0nk3y: e16 on the other hand is very stable.09:11
phyzhuhuhuhu09:11
monchichis0n1cm0nk3y: its going to be sickwhen complete, packed with eye-candy but runs fast09:11
phyzsomebody help me09:12
phyzmy detection wizard failure09:12
topyliphyz: you haven't asked, you're just flooding the channel :)09:12
parabolizeand a good file manager. ;)09:12
s0n1cm0nk3ymeh09:12
s0n1cm0nk3yim a minimalist09:12
phyzi cannot browse internet09:12
sugoruyocrimsun, i just got some message box in gnome saying sound volume control terminated unxepectedly, and the term command just finished09:12
s0n1cm0nk3ybut i do like this one http://enlightenment.org/Enlightenment/DR17/index.html09:12
sugoruyocrimsun, so now what?09:12
monchichioh its minimal09:12
parabolizes0n1cm0nk3y: use open box then09:12
monchichibut sexy minimal09:12
phyzhuhuhu09:13
crimsunsugoruyo: good, now log out and back in09:13
phyzsomeone09:13
s0n1cm0nk3ylol09:13
s0n1cm0nk3yill have to check it out when i get gentoo up and running09:13
sugoruyocrimsun, and that should do it?09:13
topyliphyz: we still don't know what you're doing and what is failing. "cannot browse the net" is not much to go on09:14
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parabolizes0n1cm0nk3y: somebody on the forms made a deb for e17 i think.09:14
parabolize*forums09:14
s0n1cm0nk3ydeb as in debian?09:14
parabolizeyes09:14
monchichior theres a script for e17 out there that will download the cvs and build it automagically09:14
topylideb as in ubuntu09:15
k1hey i've just got this gps device, plugging it into my usb port and trying to use gpsdrive, but i don't know what the interface is for it. how do I find it?09:15
phyzmy firefox browser cannot browse anywebsite even ubuntu.org09:15
phyzso what should i do09:15
topyliphyz: can you ping any sites? try "ping google.com"09:15
sugoruyocrimsun, u there?09:15
phyzbut now i'm chatting in xirc with no problem09:15
phyzwho's from malaysia?09:16
topylino, they're british i think09:16
crimsunsugoruyo: sure09:16
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sugoruyocrimsun, 1 last thing: can u tell me: a. where to find the stuff i dled09:17
crimsunsugoruyo: which stuff?09:17
phyzerm..09:17
unome!backports09:17
ubotuI heard backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/09:17
sugoruyocrimsun, b. what the commands that i run were?09:17
s0n1cm0nk3ymonchichi : does e 17 have full pictured desktop switchers like this one http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=189090298541c9ed4687972&m=screen ?09:17
sugoruyocrimsun, i just dled some files didn't i?09:17
s0n1cm0nk3ycuz that looks great09:17
phyzok ok..09:17
phyzi was one of malaysian newbie09:18
phyzso pls help me09:18
parabolizes0n1cm0nk3y: i think that is e17. ;)09:18
crimsunsugoruyo: but _which_ files?09:19
monchichis0n1cm0nk3y: yeah, it has a great pager09:19
crimsunsugoruyo: the source files are in /usr/src09:19
s0n1cm0nk3yyeah09:19
s0n1cm0nk3ygnome is okay09:19
phyzis there's manual configuration to detect for my smartlink pci modem because my ubuntu hardware detection wizard were failure..stuck when reach mouse detection09:19
s0n1cm0nk3ybut i have the basic outlines09:19
sugoruyocrimsun, what do u mean which files?, any file i just dled09:19
s0n1cm0nk3ynot as cool or sleek as that09:19
crimsunsugoruyo: the binaries of the build-dependencies are cached in /var/cache/apt/archives09:19
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sugoruyoaha09:20
monchichis0n1cm0nk3y: thats an e16 screenshot tho, i think09:20
monchichicause of the epplets and iconbox09:20
crimsunsugoruyo: there's a distinction between the files you downloaded and the file you used to compile the new drivers09:20
s0n1cm0nk3yerr ok09:20
crimsunsugoruyo: that's why I asked "which files"09:20
sugoruyocrimsun, can u explain a bit?09:20
monchichis0n1cm0nk3y: but the e17 pager is great, and that icon launcher on the bottom is "engage"09:20
crimsunsugoruyo: normally when you install a package, the files are cached in /var/cache/apt/archives09:21
phyzso09:21
sugoruyocrimsun, i know that from using synaptic09:21
parabolizemonchichi: you sure? it has engage on there...09:21
sugoruyocrimsun, i just would like u to explain the process i just performed09:21
crimsunsugoruyo: but the case of ubuntuized kernel module source means that _those_ are placed in /usr/src, not /var/cache/apt/archives09:21
phyzshould i download anyfile for my smartlink pic modem?09:21
crimsunsugoruyo: the first thing you did was install the required packages for building the newer drivers.09:22
sugoruyocrimsun, u know like a very brief description of what each command does09:22
crimsunsugoruyo: then, simply, you built the new drivers.09:22
_0killsnight everybody09:22
monchichiparabolize: no, not sure, but i think engage will run in any environment09:22
parabolizemonchichi: yes it will. but why build all the stuff for it and not e17?09:23
sugoruyocrimsun, sorry for bugging about that but can you tell me the commands again, cause i can't scroll up to them any more09:23
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sugoruyocrimsun, and stupidly :( i didn't copy-paste 'em somewhere09:23
crimsunsugoruyo: ok, you installed the build-dependencies, then you configured the alsa-source package (telling the Debian package management system to compile emu10k1 drivers), then you extracted the kernel source, then you used the Ubuntu infrastructure to compile the drivers, then you installed the compiled drivers09:24
crimsunsugoruyo: cd /usr/src && sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source09:24
sugoruyocrimsun, damn *I* did all that? man I'm good... :D09:24
crimsunsugoruyo: choose "no" for PnP, "yes" for debug, and the emu10k1 driver09:24
monchichiparabolize: good question. :) maybe for stability..?09:24
crimsunsugoruyo: sudo tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz2 && cd modules/alsa-driver && sudo debian/rules binary_modules KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) KVERS=$(uname -r)09:25
crimsunI really need to sleep, though09:25
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sugoruyocrimsun, i know sorry for keeping u soooooo long09:25
crimsunsugoruyo: so, any luck with the new drivers?09:26
sugoruyocrimsun, i just thought i should keep that archived for future use09:26
sugoruyoi'll try  now09:26
sugoruyocrimsun, good zzzzz's thanks a lot09:26
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crimsunwell, at least let me know if it works or not09:27
monchichis0n1cm0nk3y: http://get-e.org is a good resource if you decide to check out e1709:27
sugoruyocrimsun, sure wait a sec09:27
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cyphaseI have a problem with my Internet. Anyone know how to get the screens smaller?09:28
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sugoruyocrimsun, it works like a charm09:29
crimsungood.09:30
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crimsun-> Z09:30
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sugoruyocrimsun, 2 more q's plz?09:30
crimsunsure09:30
sugoruyocrimsun, a.can i make those into a script?09:30
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crimsunsugoruyo: sure09:30
zooplehello good people :-)09:30
sugoruyocrimsun, it will work in kde right?09:30
crimsunsugoruyo: sure09:30
s0n1cm0nk3yi know its off subject09:31
s0n1cm0nk3ybut anybody seen the lindsay lohan ep of snl09:31
s0n1cm0nk3ylol09:31
zoople just wondering if anyone can help me get my network printer to work with ubuntu09:31
s0n1cm0nk3yfunny stuff, watching it now09:31
sugoruyocrimsun, ok so for the script i just place 'em in a text file change the perms and execute?09:31
crimsunsugoruyo: you may09:31
sugoruyocrimsun, i didn't make any decisions myself so it is pretty straightforward09:31
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sugoruyocrimsun, just a bunch( or batch :) of commands09:32
sugoruyocrimsun, thanks a whole09:32
sugoruyocrimsun, lot09:32
sugoruyocrimsun, i've been trying forever09:32
parabolizecyphase: alt + middle mouse botton drag?09:32
crimsunnp. Keep in mind these commands are documented in /usr/share/doc/alsa-source/README.Debian09:32
sugoruyocrimsun, ok i really shouldn't keep you any longer09:32
parabolizebutton, whatever09:32
sugoruyocrimsun, nice09:33
sugoruyocrimsun, 1 problem i always have with linux is not knowing where to start with the docs :D so many09:33
sugoruyocrimsun, i didn't know about these though09:33
sugoruyocrimsun, ok guess u've had enough of me, i'll shut up now09:34
crimsunnp, I'd be glad to stay, but I have to work in a few hours and am not as young as I used to be09:34
cyphaseparabolize, i was kidding you know09:34
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sugoruyocrimsun, oh one last thingy09:35
sugoruyocrimsun, sorry09:35
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sugoruyocrimsun, but amarok won't make any sound? :(09:35
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parabolizecyphase: sure, just make me look stupid... :P09:35
sugoruyocrimsun, don't care about amarok in specific but i'm thinking kde apps might not like my audigy being the second audio card09:36
sugoruyocrimsun, so where should i look to make it the first one?09:36
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sugoruyocrimsun, or should i just disable the on-board one from bios?09:37
crimsunsugoruyo: echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base09:37
sugoruyocrimsun, will this add the echoed line in the file/09:38
topylisugoruyo: the onboard chip might add some confusion. it did for me09:38
sugoruyo?09:38
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topylii disabled it09:38
crimsunsugoruyo: yes.09:38
sugoruyocrimsun, ok so log in again right?09:39
crimsunsugoruyo: no, for that you need to restart ALSA or simply reboot09:40
crimsunbut you don't _have_ to reboot09:40
sugoruyocrimsun, that's no prob09:40
crimsunsudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload09:40
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sugoruyocrimsun, good09:40
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sugoruyostill no sound from amarok...09:43
sugoruyono juk as well09:44
ivoks_reviewerengine in amarok is?09:44
Amaranthivoks_reviewer: it can be gstreamer, i guess09:44
ivoks_reviewerAmaranth: i know that09:45
sugoruyono matter i like gnome better than kde09:45
ivoks_reviewerAmaranth: but what does sugoruyo has?09:45
sugoruyoi think09:45
sugoruyoivoks_reviewer, what?09:45
ivoks_reviewersugoruyo: what engine did you setup in amarok?09:45
Amaranthsugoruyo: If you like GNOME why not use rhythmbox or muine? :)09:45
sugoruyoi didn't set any engine09:46
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srbakeryo09:46
srbakeri have an ipod and a usb key09:46
sugoruyoAmaranth, i just test kde as well to see if everything works ok09:46
ivoks_reviewersugoruyo: set it to gstreamer09:46
srbakerboth show up as /dev/sda1 (i never put them in at the same time)09:46
srbakeris it possible to tell fstab that my ipod should be /media/ipod, and the key /media/key?09:46
unomexine engine works better09:46
d-manhey09:46
srbakeror hotplug, or whatever?09:46
sugoruyoivoks_reviewer, i have only 'no engine' in amarok menu09:47
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ivoks_reviewersrbaker: via udev, yes09:47
sugoruyoivoks_reviewer, :-/09:47
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ivoks_reviewersugoruyo: that's the problem :)09:47
zoopleconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH09:47
srbakerivoks_reviewer, where do i look for docs on that?09:47
zoople?09:47
ivoks_reviewersugoruyo: install amarok-gstreamer09:47
Amaranthsrbaker: I don't think the key is a seperate partition.09:47
sugoruyoivoks_reviewer, apt-get i guess?09:47
srbakerwell, whichever.09:47
d-mandoes anyone in here have any experience in promoting software?09:47
srbakeri forget09:47
topylizoople: apt-get install build-essential09:47
ivoks_reviewersugoruyo: right09:47
ivoks_reviewersrbaker: well, there are examples on the ned09:47
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ivoks_reviewersrbaker: well, there are examples on the net09:47
sugoruyoi've no idea about apt though09:47
black-whisphmm how do i remove a program that is not installed with apt???09:48
srbakerivoks_reviewer, url me?09:48
unomefind the files and delete them09:48
ivoks_reviewersrbaker: basicly, you have to make udev create /dev/stick device09:48
sugoruyoivoks_reviewer, still no sound09:48
ivoks_reviewersrbaker: i don't know any URL09:48
ivoks_reviewersugoruyo: sudo apt-get install amarok-gstreamer09:48
hyphenatedblack-whisp: did you compile it yourself?09:48
sugoruyoivoks_reviewer, do i need to restart alsa for this to work?09:48
sugoruyoivoks_reviewer, i just did09:48
ivoks_reviewersugoruyo: and then choose gstreamer for an engine09:48
black-whisphyphenated: i installled it from a .sh  file.09:48
sugoruyoi see aRts only09:49
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ivoks_reviewerthat's not ok09:49
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ivoks_reviewerthere must be gstreamer09:49
sugoruyoivoks_reviewer, ok now i see gstreamer as well09:49
sugoruyoivoks_reviewer, yeah you're right it works09:49
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sugoruyohow about juk though09:49
lopsterHello09:49
ivoks_reviewersugoruyo: sugoruyo are you in gnome or kde?09:49
unomeblack-whisp: check if it has an uninstall script .sh uninstall09:49
sugoruyognome09:49
ivoks_reviewerok09:49
ivoks_reviewerset it to gstreamer and then try09:50
zooplethanks09:50
phyzerm..09:50
zoopletopyli: thanks09:50
sugoruyook juk output set to gstreamer an works09:50
sugoruyothanks a lot ppl09:50
sugoruyoeverything works now09:50
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ivoks_reviewertime to eat :)09:50
sugoruyocrimsun, thanks again09:51
zoopleconfigure: error: zinf needs zlib installed ??09:51
kupahi.. can some help me with the cd of ubuntu?09:52
kupalive cd09:52
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Tomcat_Ha ha! Your puny viruses won't work on my mighty Ubuntu system!! O_O09:52
topylizoople: install the zlib-dev package09:53
kupaya i need with that...09:53
kupathe live cd,09:53
topylizoople: and -dev packages for other stuff it may complain about09:53
bob2zoople: zlib1g-dev09:53
cafuegoIt's not that sort of virus09:53
kupasomething about x sever09:53
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unomehi bob2!09:53
bob2hi09:53
kupaanyone?09:54
darkmantuxhi!09:54
darkmantuxof spain09:54
bob2you'd need to tell us the error09:54
darkmantux;-)09:54
kupaok09:54
zooplehow do i install then09:54
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kuparor: temperaly failer in name resoulishion09:55
topylizoople: install what?09:55
bob2it actually says "ror"?09:55
zooplethe zlib-dev09:55
kupaya09:55
bob2and presumably it says "temporary failure in name resolution"09:55
kupaya09:55
unomelol09:55
zalimgood day09:55
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topylizoople: bob2 found the exact package, so you do apt-get install zlib1g-dev09:56
Ghetekhow do i get this in my repos? http://www.libsdl.org/download-1.2.php09:56
kupait said go here wiki.w.org09:56
bob2Ghetek: you don't09:56
bob2Ghetek: ubuntu has libsdl 1.2 already09:56
zalimhow do i change my hardware setup (sound driver)09:56
zooplewow..u guys are smark09:56
zoople*smart09:56
zooplehow do you know all this09:56
Ghetekbob2: i cant install a program b/c it says i need it09:56
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bob2zalim: rebooting should be plenty09:56
Ghetekim on kubuntu09:56
topylizoople: because we can build packages? heh09:57
bob2Ghetek: then install it using synaptic09:57
bob2Ghetek: what are you trying to install?09:57
zooplewell..better than me09:57
zoople:p09:57
Ghetekbob2: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/yabause/yabause-0.0.7.tar.gz?use_mirror=easynews09:57
kupaok  its saying ror:temporary failure in name resolution09:57
zoopleis there a good FAQ or guide i should read09:57
Ghetekits a sega saturn emulatoro09:57
topylizoople: build a few, you will know what i know. it's not very much :)09:57
zalimno, from the begining it does not give any sound. before this i'd install fedora core and the sound system perfect09:57
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kupaok  its saying ror:temporary failure in name resolution any help :(09:58
kupait said go here wiki.w.org09:58
bob2kupa: what's your native language?09:58
zoopleconfigure: error: zinf needs GDBM installed/// k guts..wheres that one09:58
zoople:p09:58
kupalol09:59
bob2Ghetek: install libsdl1.2-dev, for a start09:59
kupaperl...09:59
bob2zoople: zinf is in ubuntu, dude09:59
IceDC571omg why are people running firefox and thunderbird under wine?09:59
Ghetekbob2: ok thanks you09:59
zooplewhere?09:59
kupaSpanish09:59
topylilol09:59
bob2kupa: try #ubuntu-es09:59
kupaok10:00
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kupawhy?10:00
kupayou guys cant help?10:00
bob2they might be able to help you better10:00
kupawhy?10:00
kupajust, asking10:00
kupalol its Spanish10:01
kupaok10:01
bob2yes10:01
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kupadude i need work on my English10:01
topylizoople: anyway, if you want exercize, you might try building it though. now when it complains about gdbm, you do "apt-cache search gdbm | grep -dev" and maybe will see a promising package to install10:01
kupaok  its saying ror:temporary failure in name resolution any help :(10:01
kupaanyone?10:01
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bob2you'd need to do "grep -- -dev"10:02
kupa?10:02
topylibob2: why --?10:02
bob2topyli: otherwise the argument parser will pick up -d -e and -v10:02
zoopleok10:02
topylibob2: damn10:02
kupaok  its saying ror:temporary failure in name resolution any help :(10:03
bob2which is fair enough, and why -- was invented ;010:03
bob2kupa: doesn't look like it, unfortunately10:03
kupalook like what?10:03
bob2like anyone can hel pyou10:03
kupayou can?10:03
topylibob2: actually, i don't think i ever grepped for -dev but dev :)10:04
zooplegrep: unknown directories method10:04
bob2zoople: as above, grep -- -dev10:04
kupaok thanks for your time....10:04
kupa:-(10:04
topylizoople: my command was wrong10:04
zooplek10:04
zooplewhat do i write10:05
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topylizoople: apt-cache search gdbm |grep -- -dev10:05
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zooplek10:06
zooplenow what10:06
topylizoople: did you get any promising looking packages as output from the command?10:07
zooplelibgdbm-dev - GNU dbm database routines (development files)10:07
topyliso apt-get install that10:07
zooplewhat does that mean10:07
bob2zoople: you know there's no reason at all to compile zinf, right?10:08
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zoopleno idea what that means10:08
topylizoople: yeah, as i said this has turned into an exercise10:08
bob2zoople: sudo apt-get install zinf10:08
bob2zoople: then run the "zinf" command10:08
bob2zoople: all done!10:08
topyli:)10:08
zooplehaha10:08
zoopleso how would i know to do that?10:09
topyligtg zoople, enjoy the compile (or zinf)10:09
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zooplek thanks10:09
bob2zoople: before trying to compile something, you'd run "apt-cache search zinf" and see if it's in ubuntu already10:09
bob2almost everything you could want is already10:09
zooplecool10:09
zooplek10:10
zooplecool10:10
black-whispBlack10:10
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zoopleso now thats done10:10
zooplehow do i run10:10
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barbashi everybody10:14
Ghetekugh is there no shockwave for firefox?!10:15
barbasdoes anyone know how can we configure /dev/parport on hoary?10:15
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cyphaseGhetek, of course there is10:15
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barbasI need it to get parallel port support in vmware workstation10:15
Ghetekcyphase: not on the firefox plugin site10:15
Ghetekcyphase: it has shockwave for windows and mac and not linux10:16
barbasanyone?10:16
Ghetekand shocwave.com couldnt get it10:16
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monchichibarbas: run modprobe parport10:17
ribsshockwave doesn't exist in Linux unless you use something like crossover10:17
cyphaseGhetek, ubuntu has it already10:17
cyphasein the repositories10:17
Ghetekcyphase i just checked the repos10:17
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erbhello10:18
barbasmonchichi: parport module was already loaded, as was parport_pc. I run your command but still nothing10:18
phyzshockwave already installed in ubuntu?10:18
cyphaseGhetek, are you sure? did you enable universe/mulitverse?10:18
Ghetekyup10:19
cyphasewell, i don't know, because it's working for me10:19
Ghetekcyphase: http://www.miniclip.com/fleaworld/fleaworld.htm10:19
cyphasei'm playing a game on shockwave.com right now10:19
Ghetekis tha working?10:19
cyphaselemme see10:19
monchichibarbas: hmm10:19
Ghetekhmm10:19
phyzoo10:20
phyzwow,it's great10:20
phyzcyphase,how long you've been used ubuntu?10:20
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cyphasephyz, hmm..10:20
barbasmonchichi: I used that as help http://www.vmware.com/support/ws5/doc/ws_devices_parallel_configure_linux.html10:20
cyphasewell, since 4.1010:20
cyphasebut i can't remember exaactly..10:20
barbasI don't have the ppdev module could that be the problem?10:20
phyzyurp10:20
phyzhello10:20
cyphaseGhetek, no, it doesn't10:21
cyphasei don't know10:21
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Ghetekhmmm10:21
Ghetekweird10:21
cyphaseshockwave is certainly working, because shockwave.com is working..10:21
davidmccabeYay! Automated nightly backups!10:21
Ghetekyeah10:21
barbasAnd does anyone know how we can obtain the ppdev module?10:21
davidmccabersnapshot is awesomeness!10:21
Ghetekok well i will just use wine and IE10:21
cyphasephyz, why do you ask?10:21
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ploptorhi10:21
Ghetekkinda sucks not to be able to go full firefox10:21
SeveasGhetek, blame macromedia10:22
cyphaseGhetek, miniclip doesn't work in windows either10:22
Seveasthey have stupid almost non-existent linux support...10:22
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Ghetekcyphase: my girlfriend os on IE now in windows xp and playing10:22
zoopleok..still cant get zinf to work10:23
cyphaseGhetek, yea, IE10:23
barbasChetek: Find a new linux using girlfriend :P10:23
cyphasei meant firefox on window10:23
cyphasewindows*10:23
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monchichibarbas: what is ppdev?10:23
rototomhello together10:23
cyphaseWindows**10:23
cyphase:D10:23
Ghetekbarbas: lol she is formating to kubuntu tomorrow10:23
barbasI don't know monchichi I just read at vmware instructions. I guess it's Parallel Port Device...??10:24
phyzjust asking because u looks like did so well with ubuntu10:24
phyz:)10:24
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Ghetekok guys, im off to sleep10:24
Ghetektake care yall10:24
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barbasGhetek: Now that's a nice girlfriend! You are a lucky guy10:25
barbas:P10:25
Ghetekim really lucky10:25
Ghetekciao!10:25
rototomI search for a gnome program to watch und record dvb TV10:25
rototomDo you know anything?10:25
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barbasGuess parallel port support ain't that great in linux afterall...10:26
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Jesse1rototom, http://www.tv-cards.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=342910:28
Jesse1rototom, have a look there it looks helpfull10:28
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rototomJesse1, thanks a lot10:28
rototomJesse1, unfortunatly, I dont find such a gnome programm there10:30
nikkiarototom, can't gxine do it ?10:31
rototomnikkia, unfortuntatly, no10:32
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rototomwith gxine I can watch dvb; but I cant make time records10:32
monchichibarbas: try sudo  mknod /dev/parport0 c 99 010:32
monchichimaybe the problem is just with udev10:33
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srbakeranyone here use an ipod shuffle with ubuntu?10:33
srbakergtkpod is a little confusing, i'm trying to format/clean my ipod10:33
srbakerand load it up10:33
monchichibarbas: i guess the ppdev module is for low-level access to parport, but its not built in the stock ubuntu kernels10:34
monchichibarbas: my mistake, ppdev is there10:35
nikkiasrbaker: select 'all', then edit->'delete completely from ipod...'->selected tab   i think10:35
monchichibarbas: sudo modprobe ppdev does it10:35
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srbakernikkia, it keeps mounting and unmounting itself for some reason10:36
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phyz:)10:37
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geesusHey all. My wifi card dosnt seem to be supported by the version of madwifi included with linux-restricted-modules for 2.6.10, anybody got some options for me to persue (other then rolling my own kernel? :)10:38
phyzerm...10:38
phyzhow many ubuntu user from britain?10:38
nikkiaphyz, i'm a kubuntu user, does that count ? :)10:39
geesusno! rofl10:39
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rototomok, it seems, there is really no application for gnome10:41
rototomthanks and bye10:41
phyz:)10:41
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erbhi10:41
phyznikkia nice to know you10:42
phyzhi10:42
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srbakerSCSI error : <3 0 0 0> return code = 0x1000010:43
srbakerend_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 221310:43
srbakeri keep getting that re: my ipod10:43
srbakerwhat the fuck?10:43
srbakerdoes that mean my ipod is fucked?10:43
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nikkiaphyz, if i am slow to respond to anything, its because i'm busy panicking about work10:43
Amaranthsrbaker: It's possible10:43
monchichisrbaker: ouch.. looks like it might be a corrupted sector10:44
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geesusOoOoOo found a good link to help myself with my problem10:44
geesushttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3897210:45
srbakermonchichi, how do i fix?10:45
monchichisrbaker... send it to apple is its still under warranty...10:45
monchichisrbaker: but it might not be fucked at all10:46
srbakeryeah10:46
srbakerwell, that's the problem10:46
srbakeri don't know10:46
erbive installed enlightenment with synaptic, but i cant see it in the boot-menu, how can i fix it?10:46
srbakerand i can't very well tell apple "hey, when i plug this into my linux box..."10:46
srbakerbut, it does crash on two songs i DL'd from ITMS10:46
monchichisrbaker: try it in a mac or windoze10:46
srbakeri don't have either10:46
Jesse1srbaker, you dont?10:47
jean-jacquesi've just uncomented the sources.list but i still can't find php inside synptic (even after an update inside synaptic) any suggestions ?10:47
srbakerJesse1, no.  why is that surprising?10:47
monchichisrbaker: good for you10:47
srbakerJesse1, i haven't had a non-GNU/Linux box for almost ten years10:47
monchichiuse a friends computer though10:47
srbakersince just before i became a debian devel.10:47
Jesse1srbaker, oh10:48
monchichierb: does it have a file in /usr/share/sessions?10:48
monchichierb:err10:48
monchichi/usr/share/xsessions10:49
holycowsrbaker, heh, i havent used gnu that long, but i've been exclusively on linux for almost 2 now10:49
jean-jacquesiis there someone who would like to help me, i'd like to displax all items inside synaptic10:49
Amaranthall of them?10:49
srbakeryeah, my ipod is fucked10:49
erbtheres a dir in usr/share: /usr/share/enlightenment10:49
holycowkinda weird trying to get anything done on win10:49
Jesse1jean-jacques, try adding the extra repositories from ubuntuguide10:49
jean-jacquesok thank you jesse1 i'm gonna try10:49
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monchichihmm.. shouldnt php be in the main repositories?10:51
erbin /usr/share/xsessions is only gnome.desktop10:51
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Jesse1monchichi, well if it is i dont see why its not there10:51
budluvahow do i get a security key for my ssh server?10:51
Jesse1hmm has any1 downloaded everything from the repositores?10:52
monchichiJesse1, i dont either, unless theres something wrong with his sources.lst or something10:52
Jesse1monchichi, ive seen a few people having that problem where theve copyed other peoples lists and still cant get it to work10:53
bob2budluva: "security key"?10:53
bob2Jesse1: you mean made a mirror? sure, lots of people do that.10:53
jean-jacquesin fact i had already done the apt-get update and uncomentes the sources.list, an my hoary install is clean at the moment (no copy paste of someone else list)10:53
bob2Jesse1: you can't install everything from the repositories, though10:53
erbtheres a correct list on ubuntuguide.org, its works10:54
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Jesse1bob2, why not?10:54
holycowJesse1, some things are incompatible10:54
Jesse1oh10:54
bob2Jesse1: how many web servers do you want running at once, for instance?10:54
Jesse1about 4010:54
holycowbob2, well, now thats a good question :)10:54
holycowindeedy, how many servers can one runon a box?10:55
davidmccabeCouldn't you cehck if a piece of merchandise had a security tag just by casually chucking it through the doorway while no one was looking?10:55
davidmccabeand following if no alarms go off.10:55
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budluvabob2, yeah, host key10:55
monchichierb: copy the gnome.desktop to enlightenment.desktop and edit it accordingly, then it will come up in the gdm menu10:55
bob2holycow: as many as you want, more or less10:55
bob2it's not even limited by ram, really10:55
davidmccabenever mind. good night.10:55
Jesse1davidmccabe, if there are the security doors then nearly all the items would have tags besides the ones that have been removed10:56
bob2budluva: /etc/ssh/10:56
erbahha, ok10:56
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davidmccabeJesse1: yes but what if there are *stealth* security doors?10:59
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nikkiadavid, it would still be pointless to invest in security doors if you're not going to tag everything10:59
davidmccabeBut if you don't even know whether there are security doors or not, you'd better check first.11:00
davidmccabehence chucking.11:00
davidmccabenot that I shoplift; it just occured to me.11:00
nikkiadavid, it'd be easier to build something that detects the magnetic field, and check it when you walk in11:00
nikkiathrowing something thru the doors is likely to get you in trouble either way11:00
monchichii think some stores probably put in fake security doors, just to scare potential shoplifters11:00
davidmccabewouldn't suprise me.11:00
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jpSalut11:01
davidmccabenikkia: but it'd make a great /Candid Camera/.11:01
hyphenateddavidmccabe: I doubt they'd be as effective as ones where alarms go off11:01
mercjust carry a high powered magnet.11:01
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nikkiadavid, even if they don't get you with shoplifting (if you havent' left the store with the item) they can     proobbaly get you with vandelism or destruction of private property11:01
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davidmccabenext question: couldn't you chuck it *over the top* of the things?11:02
davidmccabeor what if you dug a tunnel?=11:02
napsyare breezy pachages for x.org fixed yet?11:02
nikkiaits a store, not colditz11:02
davidmccabegood night again.11:02
Jesse1davidmccabe, ive always wonder if that would work suppose if you chuck it over youd miss the sensors11:02
Jesse1so it should work11:02
davidmccabeyeah.11:02
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davidmccabeunless they put the sensors right next to the doors, but often they don't.11:03
Jesse1but it would be obvouis11:03
nikkiajesse, they probably have light a donut shape, and the upper extent of the field is higher than you think11:03
monchichinapsy: they work fine for me11:03
nikkias/light/like/11:03
davidmccabenikkia: spoil-sport.11:03
monchichinapsy: i had some problems at first, but they were easily fixed11:03
napsyhmm11:03
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nikkiathe easiest way is just to make a bag that acts as a faraday cage :P11:03
davidmccabeJesse1: you do it right after your friend switches on a boombox and takes of his clothes or something.11:03
napsyi remember the last time when i tried to upgrade to breezy ... had problems with X11:03
nikkiaunfortunately, your bag is probably going to set off the sensors too :P11:04
davidmccabegnight. classes start tommorow.11:04
monchichinapsy, yeah there were some minor issues, but all it took was a few symlinks to fix11:04
mercnikkia: i saw a cops episode where some people just lined the bag with tinfoil and loaded it up and walked out11:04
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nikkiamerc, yeah, that'd be a faraday cage11:04
nikkiathe bottom line is, most stores don't check anyway11:04
mercnikkia: hence the mention ;)11:04
davidmccabemerc: cops is designed to make catching the stupid ones easier by giving them bogus ideas.11:04
nikkiai often set off the sensors at our local supermarket when i buy a DVD...11:05
nikkiathey usually just look at me and wave me thru regardless11:05
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davidmccabeand scan your iris...11:05
nikkiathe key is probably a 'oh god, what have i done?' expression11:05
napsymonchichi: " sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs-data_6.8.2-32_all.deb && sudo apt-get install -f" .. i found this on ubuntuforums ... does this fix the issue11:05
mercmy sister bought some clothes, and it had that tag on it still, i asked if the alarm went off she said 'yeah, but i just kept walking'11:05
davidmccabeyeah, probably.11:05
davidmccabehehe11:05
davidmccabethe ticket is to walk through at exactly the same time as sobody else, and pretend it was them.11:06
Jesse1the funnies thing ive ever done was got one of those security stickers from the box of lan cable i bought in another shop as i walked through it set of the alarm so i chucked the sticker on the ground upside down and it stuck to the persons shoe and set of the alarm it was funny i didnt stick around tho for them to find the sticker11:06
nikkiarazor blades routinely set off those sensors too11:06
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mercquestion is, who carries razor blades while shopping?11:06
davidmccabeninjas.11:06
mercgood call11:06
nikkiamerc, people that buy the razor blades in the shop ?11:06
maeis there a place that has bluecurve .debs for ubuntu11:06
davidmccabenahhhhhh.11:06
davidmccabemae: it's in universe I think.11:07
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Jesse1davidmccabe, its only 911:07
budluvacan someone tell me why i can only transfer files over my lan via scp at 1500k/sec? with ftp i can get the full 10,000k/sec out of my network11:07
maedavidmccabe, ahh11:07
davidmccabeJesse1: in what time zone?11:07
davidmccabeJesse1: it's 2am here.11:08
budluvais that the way scp was designed or is something wrong with my setup?11:08
davidmccabebudluva: bits vs. bytes?11:08
Jesse1davidmccabe, i see its like +8 or + 10 here in australia11:08
bob2budluva: scp is shit, yes11:08
mercbudluva: that seems funny, i would account for some overhead because of the encryption, but not that much, i dont think.11:08
bob2budluva: but you might be CPU-bound11:08
davidmccabeJesse1: here's it's -8.11:08
bob2budluva: try rsync instead11:08
davidmccabeJesse1: good to meet you. bye.11:08
bob2(which will also be cpu-bound if done over ssh)11:08
Jesse1davidmccabe, cya11:08
davidmccabebudluva: or perhaps if you have a 386 doing the encryption.11:08
budluvabob2, both machines are 2.0ghz cpu's11:09
davidmccabeJesse1: not used to having anybody *earlier* than me.11:09
davidmccabeJesse1: unless they're in Europe, and then it's some time in the morning.11:09
budluvaboth amd xp +240011:09
Jesse1but im aday ahead11:09
davidmccabeahhhh.11:09
Jesse1i think its monday here now11:10
davidmccabemy sister's prolly waking up some time about now.11:10
bob2budluva: well, see if rsync is faster11:10
merc5am monday here11:10
davidmccabeshe's in Africa.11:10
davidmccabeanyways, gnight.11:10
Jesse1lol just exit or u wont ever leave11:10
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Jesse1davidmccabe, youve said goodnight about 6 times already11:11
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Jesse1any1 here play cs:s11:11
monchichiwhats cs:s?11:11
Jesse1youd know if you played it11:12
Jesse1it's counter-strike source11:12
monchichiwell i know i dont play it, i just wanted to know11:12
monchichii see.11:12
Jesse1have you heard of cs?11:13
monchichiheard of, yes.. i dont play games that much though11:13
Jesse1ok11:14
monchichidoes it work with cedega?11:14
monchichior is there a native port?11:14
Jesse1no native port11:14
budluvahow can i pass a command on boot up? i have an old monitor so i need to manually adjust gamma by doing this xgamma -d :0 -gamma 3.0 everytime i boot my machine, is there somewhere i can place this line to exec at bootup?11:14
Jesse1people have said that it works with cedega11:14
monchichibudluva: try /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh11:15
Jesse1budluva, how do u manage doing that if you cant see?11:16
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budluvaJesse1, its dark, but barely readable :P i need a new monitor bbbbaaaaaadddddd :P11:16
linkoi11:16
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heienHi everyone... How do i make a symlink?11:17
linkhi11:17
Jesse1budluva, monitors have be come farley cheap now for a crt11:17
hhurttaln -s11:17
fdrheien,   ln -s11:17
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nikkiagah, the monday morning 'wtf are you up to?' call from my boss :/11:17
heienfdr, thx. .:)11:17
linkhow are you11:17
fdrheien, actually,  ln -s  targetfile  linkname11:17
monchichiheien: ln -s target link11:17
budluvaJesse1, yes i plan on gettings a good lcd, but want to get a good video card at the same time11:18
heieni could figure that out ;P11:18
fdrheien, you're more than welcome11:18
budluvamonchichi, where do you suggest i put that xgamma line in my bootmisc.sh? at the very end?11:18
linkola11:18
linkola11:18
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monchichibudluva: at the end, unless you want to see the boot messages, then it should be in a different file altogether11:19
fdrWhere do I find a list of the backport server mirrors? There was a post in ubuntuforums, but I cannot finr it anymore... :-(11:19
heienshitty webcams.. : @ :/11:19
Seveasfdr: To find out the location of backports, go to backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php11:20
fdrSeveas, found it, thanks11:20
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Jesse1budluva, well you will want to get a good lcd with a low responce time around 12ms or lower and for the graphics card deparatment i would recomend getting a geforce 7800GTX11:21
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nikkiajesse, why would you recommend a 7800 ? every review has stated that the improvements over the 6800 are minimal in the current incarnation, and the price difference isn't minimal11:24
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holycowthere has been quite a few linux kernel upgrades over the course of hoary11:26
holycowi wonder how serious the patches are11:26
monchichiis anyone here running 2.6.12?11:26
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fabbionemonchichi: yes11:27
monchichiare you using the ubuntu kernel or did you compile it?11:27
fabbionemonchichi: the ubuntu kernel11:27
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budluvais a kernel upgrade easy like debian?11:28
kvidellugh.. anyone know the name of that company that puts a big crate at your house that you fill with your belongings then give them a shipping address and they come by a few days later and pick it up and ship it to your new house, cross country?11:28
fabbionebudluva: yes11:28
budluvaie apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.1211:28
fabbioneapt-get install linux-image-2.6.1211:28
holycowkvidell, yes, 1800-got-junk11:28
fabbiones/kernel/image11:28
fabbionemeh11:28
fabbiones/kernel/linux11:28
kvidellfunny :-P11:29
fdrAnybody here has installed the realplayer? Is it really as easy as typing `apt-get install realplayer` or does it involve anything more complex?11:30
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monchichifdr: check ubuntuguide.org... i cant install it cause of amd6411:30
holycowfdr apt-get remove --purge totem-gstreamer && apt-get install totem-xine then add the w32codecs repositories and apt-getinstall w32codecs11:30
oggeim quite dissapointed, yesterday I installed ubuntu minimal on my celeron 700mhz coppermine (mobile) 128mbyte ram, 4mbyte videomemory laptop. later I added xorg, xfce4, firefox, wdm and some other applications. I think the system runs slow, sluggish. My win2k installation on same computer runs faster. Is there anything I can do about this?11:31
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monchichiubuntu should run fine on a celeron 70011:31
oggeyes it does run fine, but its not as fast as win2k, is there any configuration I can do about this?11:32
oggethought it should run smoother :)11:32
Seveasogge, use XFCE instead of gnome/kde11:32
oggeI do11:32
fdrmonchichi, holycow : thanks! that really sounded *too* easy to me :)11:32
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holycowogge, if you have problems with xfce theres something whack going on11:35
monchichiogge:  check gnome-system-monitor to see if anything is hogging resources11:35
holycowxfce is as snappy as win2k11:35
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holycowgnome and kde are a bit more resource hogs so they feel maybe less snapy, but still should be very very acceptable11:35
tswogge: check that you have dma enabled on your harddrive11:36
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holycowtsw, good call11:36
oggemonchichi, how do I check the gnome-system-monitor? I run xfce.11:36
oggedma enabled. yes, where do I check that?11:36
maliksHello....I want to install Glimmr on Ubuntu using binaries...But I cant locate them...does anyone know of a good repository hosting mono and its goodies like beagle,glimmr, etc?11:37
holycowhdparm /dev/deviceofdrive11:37
tswogge: sudo hdparm /dev/ha11:37
tswhda even11:37
tswdamn this communicator keyboard...11:37
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oggesudo hdaparm /dev/ha - like that?11:38
holycowdo sudo fdisk -l to find the device names of y our partitions11:38
holycowthen use the right /dev/device11:38
vdmWhere can i set what versions of aclocal, autoconf & automake i want my system to use?11:39
monchichiogge- just run "gnome-system-monitor" in a terminal or something11:39
IceDC571blah.. im trying to remove openoffice.org and its asking me to remove ubuntu-desktop11:40
oggewhen doing the sudo fdisk -l11:40
oggeI can se 4 device boot11:40
oggethe first one is ntfs. where ntfs is instaled.11:40
Seveasvdm, sudo update-alternatives --config automake11:40
oggewhere win2k is installed.. :)11:41
vdmSeveas, Cheers11:41
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oggethen I got "extended", "Linux", and "Linux swap / Solaris"11:41
maliksHello....I want to install Glimmr on Ubuntu using binaries...But I cant locate them...does anyone know of a good repository hosting mono and its goodies like beagle,glimmr, etc?11:42
holycowogge, well you are turning on dma for a device not a partition, that should give you an idea of what is there. so you should have an hda hdb or hdc labeled hd that you can turn on dma11:42
Seveasmaliks, Mono is in Hoary universe, but for mono applications, waiting for Breezy to stabilize is a better option...11:42
holycowogge, then google turning dma on for linux, the command is something like hdparm dma1 /dev/hdd or something like that11:43
oggeok. thanx.11:43
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holycowyou can also man hdparm to verify11:43
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IceDC571im guessing it isnt possible to remove openoffice?11:51
holycowsudo apt-get remove --purge openoffice.org11:52
holycowthis isn't microsoft11:52
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IceDC571wont i have broken packages later?11:52
holycowapt / dpkg resolve everything for you11:53
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kvidelluse aptitude instead of apt-get if you're afraid of that11:53
holycowagain, this isn't microsoft11:53
IceDC571thats what it stated when i used apitude11:53
holycowno its fine11:53
kvidellyou'll be fine.11:53
IceDC571okay11:53
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fdrPlease, anybody know if there is a simple way of converting real audio files into mp3?11:54
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fdr(or into wav, then I'll make the conversion :P )11:54
IceDC571it says its going to remove ubuntu-desktop as i said before11:54
IceDC571ugh..11:54
IceDC571i'll try aptitude11:54
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sparklinghi all11:55
monchichiubuntu-desktop is a dummy package11:55
oggeHello again. I did the hdparm /dev/hdc, and everything is = 0. Except readahead which is 256 (on)11:55
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monchichiit wont hurt to remove it11:55
erbhello11:55
IceDC571monchichi, are you serious?11:55
sparklingis there someone experienced in installing ubuntu on an external usb2 hard drive?11:55
holycowyes he is11:55
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IceDC571damn.. why didnt i know that, i should read the packages descriptions more often11:56
monchichiit just depends on all the packages in a full "ubuntu desktop"11:56
holycowit's fine, takes a while to get to know the system11:56
erbive enlightenment :)11:56
monchichierb, yeah but its old enlightenment :P11:56
erbold?11:57
holycowthe new one looks like fun11:57
monchichiits e16, e17 is the new one11:57
oggeShould I do the sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc to enable dma for my linux installation drive.11:57
erbdamn11:57
monchichiits still in development11:57
IceDC571ahh, i see why the ubuntu-desktop is there11:57
monchichibut its very very cool11:57
IceDC571if i want to have the full desktop installed again i can just install that package, i see11:58
monchichitres cool11:58
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lopsterI tried to mount my Windows drives C, D, E and F to my Ubuntu, but I only got C and D working11:59
m0r0nWhat's the meaning of phunk? It seems to be a new english word, I cant find a translation12:00
oggehow can I define /dev/hdc12:00
oggewhat is it?12:00
lopsterAnd when I look to my /dev/ I see there many hd** things, so what is my E or F drive?12:00
monchichim0r0n: try urbandictionary.com12:00
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IceDC571abiword is now part of the official gnome office suite? interesting12:00
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Amaranthum, GNOME Office isn't an official part of GNOME12:01
holycowlopster, fdisk -l will tell you about your partition12:01
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lopsterk12:01
Amaranthand abiword has been a part of it since the beginning12:01
holycowlopster, based on that you can mount them and based on the content therein, you can guess which one was the windows designation12:01
queuetueI've got a box (debian sarge upgraded to ubuntu) that ssh locks up (or hangs up, more likely) on me if I leave it too long - measured in minutes.  Keepalive appears to be set in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ... what else shoud I check?12:01
holycowlopster, note: windows drive designations are non sensical and confustion12:01
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IceDC571gnome office software is third party?12:02
Amaranthyes12:02
tswqueuetue: where are you doing the connection? on the same net or through internet?12:02
holycowIceDC571, everything is third party12:02
Amaranththere are plans to make it a part of gnome but they want to use it as a test for some new ideas12:02
IceDC571well i didnt mean it that way12:03
queuetuetsw, Through the INternet, but on a reliable connection. (No other ssh is going down in the same cluster (all RHEL boxes.)12:03
sparklingor do you an howto to install linux on an external hard drive?12:03
IceDC571http://www.gnome.org/gnome-office/12:04
IceDC571i meant its part of the gnome foundation12:04
IceDC571and i understand that they have no plans to include it with their desktop12:04
Amaranthsure, it's hosted on gnome.org12:04
tswqueuetue: ok, Ive had lots of ssh problems with adsl-modems not keeping ssh up when idle12:04
holycowah12:04
Amaranthbut it's not a part of GNOME The Product or GNOME The Platform12:05
IceDC571exactly12:05
IceDC571sorry i got confused before12:05
holycowIceDC571, well its a wait and see thing with everything, sun has 70 fulltime developers working on oo.o ... but who knows what direction that will take12:05
Amaranthholycow: It'll get slower and use more and more java.12:05
holycowmaybe if things go south it may make sense to ditch oo.o for abiword ... etc.12:05
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IceDC571hahaha Amaranth12:06
holycow:)12:06
holycowi don't mind oo.o, i'm weary of sun, those guys are schizophrenic12:06
holycowat first they wanted to get into the office suite business in the 90's and bought this app from a german co12:06
holycowthen they can't sell it so they open source it12:06
holycowthen it gets popular as open source so they want to sell it again12:07
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holycownow they have 70 devs on it, a deal with ms, and their ceo talks as if he has rabies12:07
queuetueholycow, I don't trust Sun because ... they invented and marketed Java. :)12:07
holycowwho the hell knows12:07
IceDC571staroffice is a joke12:07
IceDC571its exactly the same as openoffice now12:07
holycowIceDC571, you think?12:07
holycowIT ALWAYS WAS OO.O12:07
holycowright?12:08
queuetueActualy, I thought (never really saw it, but thought) that SO had less features and more testing...12:08
IceDC571yep.. but openoffice wasnt opensource before, was it?12:08
IceDC571i mean12:08
mjrwell, the deal with MS was that they can do their SO thing in peace, not OO.o, so the paranoid mind might think that the plan is to oust OO.o via MS's patent claims on file formats, making it not interoperate12:08
holycowice they are the exact same app12:08
lifelessIceDC571: openoffice has always been opensource, staroffice wasn't.12:08
holycowstar office is the oopen office12:08
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holycowstar office was just open office with a few proprietary things added12:09
holycowlike thesaurus and dictionary12:09
IceDC571lifeless, i mean openoffice is fairly new.. they just released the source a couple years ago12:09
holycowetc12:09
lifelessholycow: other way around12:09
holycowno its not new12:09
holycowopen office is star office12:09
IceDC571but staroffice has been around for years12:09
lifelessholycow: open office is star office minus the prop crap12:09
holycowopen office was open sources in the early 90's12:09
lifelessholycow: *cough*12:09
holycowlifeless, :) potato potato12:09
lifelessholycow: not really, ordering is significant here12:10
holycowIceDC571, which part of STAROFFICE IS OPENOFFICE aren't you listening to?12:10
IceDC571nevermind im getting confused again, ack.....12:10
holycowsame codebase same app12:10
holycowice here is what happened?12:10
holycowopen office codebase is like 18 years old12:10
holycowit was an old german office suite12:10
holycowsun bought it in late 80's early 90's12:10
holycowit was around for quite a while then12:11
holycowsun tried to compete with ms and lost12:11
holycowthey open sourced it in the early to mid 90's12:11
holycowAS OPENOFFICE12:11
IceDC571i see12:11
holycowit got popular, so they created the big brother called STAROFFICE12:11
lifelessholycow: your dates are wrong12:11
IceDC571i didnt know openoffice was around for that long!12:11
lifelessholycow: and it started out as staroffice12:11
holycowwhich was the open source codebase with added proprietary components, like good thesaurus etc.12:11
lifelesshttp://about.openoffice.org/index.html#history12:11
holycowand sold licences for that12:11
lifelessholycow: you should get your facts right before you rant12:12
holycowlifeless, lol okay so my dates and marketing are off, the chronology is the same :)12:12
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holycow*piff* don't be a pedant :)12:12
holycowoh bought it much later, heh oh well12:13
lifelessholycow: not 'off', completely diametrically wrong12:13
IceDC571holycow: very very nice, thank you for the information.. now my head is clear12:13
holycowstill quite an old app12:13
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holycowlifeless, let me guess you run at least one version of bsd, correct?12:13
lifelessnope12:13
lifelessIceDC571: read the link http://about.openoffice.org/index.html#history - its got all the history, with correct dates12:14
Ycrosholycow: you're just digging yourself in deeper...12:14
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holycowYcros, go away unless you can contribute somethign specific, if i'm wrong i'm wrong12:15
holycowotherwise shutup :)12:15
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tomte05Hi12:18
tomte05anybody out there?12:19
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tomte05I've problems with the xv output of software like kino or mplayer12:20
tomte05can anybody help?12:20
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Hajuuhey uhm12:28
HajuuSmall problem12:28
HajuuI had an applet crash on me yesterday.. not sure which one.. but now my desktop selector is gone from my bottom gnome bar.. as well as the area where open windows show up.12:29
HajuuAny ideas how to fix this?12:29
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SoundProblemhello guys im having big problems with ubuntu12:30
rg58smahhiii12:30
SoundProblemand its getting my annoyed bad12:31
SoundProblemmy sound isint working and my internet isint working12:31
rg58smasomeone have a good sources.list12:31
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queuetueYour Internet is broken?!?12:31
SoundProblemi have a cable modem connected to a router which leads to a network card which is this computer12:31
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SoundProbleminternet works on xp,12:31
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SoundProblemon linux my network cards light is on but whenever i try to use the internet it doesnt work12:32
no0ticwhere can I find upgrade changelogs?12:32
mindspinwhat does it mean "doesn't work"12:32
mindspincan you ping the router?12:33
kvidellHajuu: restart gnome-panel ?12:33
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SoundProblemlike the whenever i try to look up something12:33
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SoundProblemit doesnt look it up12:33
kvidellSoundProblem: what does typing "ifconfig" return in a terminal?12:33
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SoundProblemusually any distribtion would auto detect my cable modem12:33
SoundProblemummm12:34
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pedingtoMornin' folks12:34
SoundProblemi tried ipconfig12:34
mindspinhaha12:34
kvidellnot a command :)12:34
SoundProblem:S12:34
Firetechdamn pgp, I started getting spam... (And I know that pgp is the reason...)12:34
SoundProblemit will probably say not detected command12:34
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longodjhey guys how can I startx from a user account/12:34
longodj?*12:34
sly_you just said the command in your question ?12:35
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mindspinSoundProblem: what does typing "ifconfig" return in a terminal?12:36
seliniumhi all, for some reason my cdroms have stopped working? COuld anybody help?12:36
longodjno but I mean, how can I use the startx command from a non privileged account...it says X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.12:36
pedingtoHrm, I can't get java to work.  I downloaded the .bin file, but I must admit, I'm stumped at that point.12:36
longodjmindspin: interface info12:36
mindspini know that ;-)12:36
zeverpedingto, have you made it executable12:36
pedingtoby using make-jpkg?12:37
mindspinand my networking works, but SoundProblem's not12:37
zeverno, by using chmod +x <file>.bin12:37
longodjsorry got in at the wrong point ni the convo :-P12:37
mindspinyw12:37
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pedingtoNo I haven't, I'm fairly new and was trawling through the wiki, and didn't see that one.12:38
pedingtoI'll give that a whirl now.12:38
zeverok12:38
seliniumhi all, for some reason my cdroms have stopped working? COuld anybody help?12:38
pedingtoAlright zever, I did that.12:38
kvidellselinium: got a stick and two boxes of TimTams handy?12:39
zeverk, and now try ./<file>.bin12:39
seliniumkvidell: LOL I haven't heard TimTams in a while! I'm in the UK! :)12:39
kvidellhehe..12:39
seliniumkvidell: big stick is ready!12:40
kvidellsee I'm not sure where to start on your problem but since I'm in California, if you had timtams I'd sure bleed google till it told me :-D -.- I'm useless, I know.12:40
kvidellthough what kind of 'Stopped working' are we talking?12:40
kvidellnot ejecting, not reading, no lights?12:41
pedingtook zever, that seemed to do something :)12:41
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zeverpedingto, it might work now, you should give it a try12:42
zyththis autoupdate from 2.6.10-4 to 2.6.10-5 better not break anything, grr...12:42
seliniumkvidell: They were working one day, now they are not working? I don't know what I did but the system is not recognising a cd. The drives are functional. Lights and everything, but not talking to ubuntu12:42
pedingtoHrm, firefox isn't picking it up yet, is there another step I have to do?12:43
seliniumkvidell: they appear in the Device manager.... :)12:43
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kvidellpedingto: got a big stick and two boxes of... er... nm12:43
zeverpedingto, what version do you have12:43
zeverpedingto, of ubuntu12:44
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pedingto5.0412:44
kvidellselinium: are they automounting data correctly?12:44
kvideller.. are they automounting your cds at all?12:44
zeverpedingto, then you better should have used the repositories12:44
zeverpedingto, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre12:45
seliniumkvidell: not at all, if i go to /media/cdrom0 it says there is nothing there.12:45
kvidellokay.. pop in a cd and try sudo mount /media/cdrom012:45
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maltjewhat is the best download prog I can use?12:46
longodjwget?12:47
maltjewith azureus I download less then I upload12:47
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longodjgtkgnutella?12:47
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seliniumkvidell: I have pasted the error @ http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/25612:48
zyththis is odd, according to synaptic, my 'linux-686-smp' package is 2.6.10-7, but uname -a shows me 2.6.10-5, and I only have 1 kernel installed....12:48
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ronybeckHi :-)12:48
zythcan anyone explain that?12:48
kvidellhm12:48
kvidellthat uh.. that's pretty special..12:48
kvidellhas this cd worked in the past?12:48
ronybeckWhy doesn't the NVIDIA driver from NVIDIA work properly with ubuntu?12:48
seliniumkvidell: I like to be special! lol12:48
maltjegnutella is it easy to install?12:48
pedingtoZever, thanks, I seem to have lost the ability to google to find what I'm actually looking for lately.12:48
kvidelland you're not trying to mount a blank CDR to burn to it are you?12:49
zeverpedingto, :-)12:49
seliniumkvidell: it is a burnt cd. I will try a 'proper cd', one mo.12:49
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bigfoot1hello, someone here recommended to me to get ZSNES when I was looking to play games. I don't remember who.12:50
kvidellhm... that "should" be okay.. strange..12:50
zythbigfoot1, that's not a question12:51
bigfoot1does anybody here have visualboyadvance installed.12:51
bigfoot1zyth: true.12:51
bigfoot18-)12:51
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seliniumkvidell: same error with a proper cd.... What on earth have I done! :|12:52
kvidelldid you manually enable ide-scsi?12:53
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seliniumkvidell: Nope, it all auto magically installed at start up. I did move across to the K7 version. But that shouldn't have knocked the drives, should it?12:54
bigfoot1can someone tell me how i can run visualboyadvance in GUI mode?12:54
kvidellwhat does your /dev/hdc line look like from /etc/fstab ?12:54
pedingtoZever, thanks ;) it works.12:54
kvidellI don't think so, no12:54
kvidelland possibly the last few lines of 'dmesg' after trying to mount12:55
seliniumkvidell: dmesg? Sorry, i am not too fluent in Linux yet :)12:56
nikkiaselinium: dmesg shows the console messages that have been generated12:56
nikkia(some of which never really get to the console these days, thanks to syslogd)12:57
swarmI have seen that debian team has released wine for amd64 in the previous week, could be possible to use such package in Ubuntu Hoary for amd64?12:57
seliniumkvidell nikkia: so the command would be mount /media/cdrom0 | dmesg  ?12:57
nikkiano12:58
bigfoot1can someone help me with visualboyadvance?12:58
bigfoot1I'd like to run it in GUI.12:58
nikkiadmesg just shows you what has been reported, its useful for seeing if/why things failed12:58
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nikkiaselinium: you'd do 'mount /media/cdrom0' then do 'dmesg' to see what was reported by the command12:58
ronybeckbigfoot1, what is the problem?12:58
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bigfoot1ronybeck, hello. Thank you for your response. Are you familiar with VBA? Do you use it?12:59
ronybeckbigfoot1, Does visualboyadvanced not come with a GUI?12:59
seliniumnikkia: cheers!12:59
ronybeckbigfoot1, unfortunatly not :-)12:59
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bigfoot1Well, I got VBA from Synaptic. I think it only runs in terminal mode.12:59
nikkiaronybeck, no, there are front ends for it thought12:59
nikkiathough12:59
nikkiagnomeboyadvance, for example01:00
ronybeckbigfoot1, so we need to find a front end for it.  Have you tried looking at www.freshmeat.net?01:00
kvidellsorry, got distracted by pretty apple laptops01:00
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bigfoot1on VBA's homepage (http://vba.ngemu.com), it seems like the windows version can run with a bit of a GUI (meaning: it has a simple toolbar from which one can do a bit of configuration). I wonder if it's possible to get a frontend.01:00
nikkiagnomeboyadvance is in the repos01:00
bigfoot1nikkia, gnomeboyadvance is like VBA?01:00
pmjdebruijnanybody here using mono from Ubuntu backports on Hoary?01:01
nikkiabigfoot1: its a front-end to VBA01:01
seliniumkvidell: for some reason it wont mount cdrom0 know it just hangs....01:01
bigfoot1ronybeck, i'll look at freshmeat.net now. Is GnomeBoyadvance the best for ubuntu users?01:01
seliniumkvidell: for some reason it wont mount cdrom0 know it just hangs.... fstab @ http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/25701:02
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no0ticwhere can I find packages changelogs?01:02
bigfoot1i went to freshmeat.net. What should i look for?01:02
zythI am getting 'configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool' - how do I get that perl module?01:02
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bigfoot1okay, i typed in gnome boy, and I got one result.01:03
ronybeckbigfoot1, it is in synaptic ;)01:03
pmjdebruijnanyway it seems to depend on libgcc1 - 4.001:03
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bigfoot1ronybeck, GnomeBoyAdvance is in synaptic? Great. Let me get it then. Do i still need to keep VisualBoyADvance?01:03
slyi got a quick question01:03
slyghow come when copying a mp3 folder from a disk01:03
slyall tracks have a lock as a emblem ?01:04
ronybeckbigfoot1, I just installed it just now.  All I need now is some ROM's ;)01:04
bigfoot1ronybeck, GnomeBoyadvance is in synaptic? what's the search term i should use?01:04
seliniumsly: the disc is not writable so it shows the lock01:05
bigfoot1ronybeck, i can't find GnomeBoyAdvance is synaptic. I could only find VisualBoyAdvance.01:05
slyi mean this is now the case with th folder sat on the desktop01:05
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bigfoot1ronybeck: correction: ... _in_ synaptic....01:05
khabali ifconfig commanded in the command box01:05
zythn/m I remember how to use CPAN01:05
khabalall it did was give info about what speed blah blah01:06
ronybeckbigfoot1, ok,  are you searching on description and name01:06
slywhen viewing from the mounted disk all looks normal untill its copyed to the desktop and the tracks on the desktop hae the emblem01:06
khabalthe internet still doesnt work01:06
bigfoot1ronybeck, you found gnomeboyadvance in synaptic?01:06
slynot a major problem as the tracks still work fine, just looks daft01:06
ronybeckbigfoot1, I searched for "visualboy"01:06
nikkiarony, actually, it seems gnomeboyadvance is in backports01:06
seliniumIs there a gui for xmame?01:06
bigfoot1ronybeck, i already have visualboy. i want a front-end for it.01:06
nikkiaversion: 0.4.1~5.04ubp101:06
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ronybecknikkia, ah ok01:06
bigfoot1nikkia, how do i get gnomeboyadvance from the backports?01:07
ronybeckbigfoot1, yeah but one of the matches I get when searching for visualboy is gnomeboyadvanced01:07
nikkiabig, you'd need to add the backports repositories to your sources.list for apt01:07
bigfoot1Is it in the backports? please confirm01:07
bigfoot1nikkia, how do i add it? is it safe to add the backports to my list?01:07
bigfoot1no dangers?01:07
ronybeckbigfoot1,  /etc/apt/sources.list from memory.  You need to uncomment some of the lines to enable some disabled repositories'01:07
nikkiasomeone can probably paste the url for how to add backports01:07
khabalMy computer is connected to a router which is connected to a cable mode, The internet works on XP, but doesnt work on linux, I checked the network card and it shows the light on, but whenever u try to use the internet doesnt seem to work01:08
bigfoot1is there no simple text i can copy and paste to add only this one program from the backports?01:08
nikkiabig, there are risks, but if you use it just to pull a specific package, then remove it from the repository list again, its relatively safe01:08
mindspinwhat does ifconfig say01:08
bigfoot1okay, how do i add backports?01:08
nikkiabig, there is a way you could do that, yes01:08
ronybeckbigfoot1, open up the sources.list in vi or something and uncomment the repositories01:09
nikkiayou could just get the .deb from the backports server, and install it manually01:09
khabalmindspin something about Ip adresses and the speed of the internet01:09
khabalim sure it detected it01:09
khabalbut still doesnt work01:09
bigfoot1ronybeck,  i don't think i even have them in my sources list.01:09
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_root_hi all01:10
mindspinwhat does ping www.google.com say?01:10
khabali didnt try it01:10
_root_i am using gcc-3.3.4 and gcc-4.001:10
khabalnow i have to reboot again :(01:10
mindspinhave a try01:10
mindspin:-)01:10
khabaldo u know how many times i rebooted?01:10
mindspinyou are on win right now?01:10
khabalsigh..01:10
nikkiabig, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/01:10
khabalyes01:10
nikkiaread that :)01:10
khabaland ubuntu is annoying me bad01:10
bigfoot1thanks, nikkia01:10
_root_i am getting stack smashing protection error01:10
khabalwithout the internet its useless01:10
khabalif i ping google01:11
mindspinnormally you don't have to reboot linux, but for you now theres no way out01:11
khabalwill it work?01:11
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seliniumsly: highlight all the files with the lock, right click properties/permissions then click the group write emblem01:11
nikkiabig, if you don't want to add the backports repos to your list, you could just download: http://acm.cs.umn.edu/ubp/hoary-backports/universe/binary-i386/gnomeboyadvance_0.4-1~5.04ubp1_all.deb01:11
nikkiathen install it with dpkg -i01:11
mindspinits for diagnostic reasons01:11
khabalok brb01:11
khabaldont forget my name01:12
resiak_root_: What exactly are you recompiling?01:12
nikkiathe only dependancies it has are on packages from the main distribution, so you should be able to install the deb file that way01:12
mindspinno, but iam away for 20 minutes01:12
mindspintoo late..01:12
seliniumCan anyone help with my cdroms deciding not to work today?01:12
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slyselinium : Thankyou sorted now :)01:13
seliniumsly: no probs01:13
seliniumCan anyone help with my cdroms deciding not to work today? Error message from mount @ http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/25701:14
_root_resiak: i've recompiled xorg-6.8.2 using gcc-3.4.401:14
resiak_root_: Why?01:14
_root_resiak: i was having xorg which was early compiled with gcc-401:15
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HajuuUm01:15
resiakselinium: Are you attempting to mount an audio CD01:15
HajuuThis is getting dodgy01:15
_root_resiak: that was having some stack problems so i switched to gcc-3.4.401:15
_root_resiak: now my system contains both versions of gcc.. but by default gcc-3.4.401:16
seliniumresiak: at the moment yes. But it will not mount anything at the mo... Drives appear in the device manager but both not working.01:16
HajuuSo.. my gnome-panel crashed.... so I ran a terminal and re-ran gnome-panel... but it was very dodgy.. when I restart it isn't loading it either for some reason.. so how can I fix that?01:16
resiak_root_: I'm not going to touch this with a barge pole, since you're clearly recompiling things with mysterious cflags for no readily discernabl reason.01:16
seliniumresiak: One cdrom drive and the dvdrom drive.01:17
resiakselinium: Try again with a CD that it's actually possible to mount and paste the results?01:17
nikkiaresiak: gentoo users are people too :P01:17
bigfoot1can someone copy and paste to me their backports text from their sources.list please?01:17
resiaknikkia: THEY ARE CYBORGS WHO WILL EAT YOUR BRAIN FASTERERERERER01:17
seliniumresiak: I cant get either drive to mount anything at all.01:17
bigfoot1I seem to be having trouble with my text.01:17
bigfoot1you can pm the text to me.01:18
nikkiaresiak: i thought they were alien-zombie hybrids, like in RE4, actually01:18
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khabalmind spin u here?01:18
resiakselinium: Paste an error from trying to mount a data CD ?01:18
resiakmindspin: Ping01:18
bigfoot1Tell me, what's the difference between installing something via synaptic and getting the file (a deb. file or a tar.gz or a  rpm) from the internet?R01:19
resiakkhabal: Why the extra space? [s] he probably doesn't hilight on "mind spin".01:19
nikkiabigfoot, one is easier than the other, that's about it01:19
khabalresiak: what r u talking about?01:19
bigfoot1does anybody here have backports in their sources.list? Please paste it to me.01:19
resiakkhabal: 12:18           khabal : mind spin u here?01:19
nikkiabigfoot, using apt (or one of the apt frontends like synaptic) makes getting the dependancies easier01:19
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bigfoot1nikkia, i see.01:20
khabalim quitin linux coz my internet doesnt work on it01:20
nikkiabigfoot, in the end, apt/synaptic/etc calls dpkg with the .deb it downloads anyway01:20
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khabalor i might start mandrake01:20
khabalit might detect my network connections01:20
bigfoot1To all: i added the backports reps into my sources.list but I am having problems. So if anyone has them in their list, please pm me.01:21
seliniumresiak: it now just hangs when trying to mount.01:21
HajuuGRR01:21
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HajuuAND now its shutting my GAIM if I dont keep the main window open01:21
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Hajuuwtf does gnome-panel have to do with gaim idling? :S01:21
rg58smahiii01:21
resiakselinium: See, that's an entirely different problem! I have to go, though, I'm afraid.01:21
bigfoot1if i get a .deb file from the internet, how do you go about installing it into the system? In windows, it's easy: you just double click the installation package (.exe file).01:22
khabalhow i delete ubuntu and put mandrake on?01:22
rg58smasomeone have a good sources.list with nvidia-glx01:22
seliniumresiak: thanks for trying! :)01:22
bigfoot1nikkia, do you have backports repos in your sources.list?01:22
nikkiabigfoot1: 'sudo dpkg -i   some_file.deb'01:22
bigfoot1nikkia, will that command work on a deb file downloaded from internet to my harddrive?01:23
bigfoot1and after i run that command, will it be in synaptic?01:23
seliniumbigfoot1 : 'man dpkg' of 'dpkg --help' for more info.01:23
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nikkiabigfoot1, yes, although it may tell you that you need to install other things first01:24
seliniumbigfoot1 : 'man dpkg' OR 'dpkg --help' for more info. even01:24
nikkiainstall those things from synaptic, then run dpkg again01:24
bigfoot1is your "yes" the answer to my first, second or both questions?01:24
nikkiabigfoot1: both01:24
bigfoot1okay.01:24
nikkiaonce you've done the dpkg -i and it is successful that package will be installed on  your system, synaptic should show it in the list (under 'locally created packages' probably), as installed01:25
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WhistlerHi i wanna setup server01:27
Whistleron my localhost01:27
Whistlerwebserver01:27
Whistlerphp+mysql01:27
Whistleris there any packages?01:27
nikkiawhistler, apache should get installed by default...01:27
Whistlerlike easyphp for windows01:28
rg58smasomeone have a good sources.list with nvidia-glx01:28
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nikkiawhistler, just search for libapache2-mod-php4 in synaptic/whatever01:28
nikkiainstall that, then find php4-mysql in the list too, and install that01:28
nikkiathat should install mysql as a dependancy01:28
uniqworkhmm.. does it?01:29
Whistlertheres no all in one packeges?01:29
nikkiauniq, it should01:29
Whistlerpackages01:29
uniqworknikkia: i really hope not, not all webservers are mysql-servers too.01:30
nikkiauniq, true, but i'm fairly sure thats what it did for me01:30
bigfoot1nikkia, can you paste to me your sources. list? I'd like to take a look at your backports text.01:30
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uniqworkWhistler: no, you need to choose the packages that fits your needs.01:30
nikkiabigfoot, no, i gave you the url to the page on how to add them, i'm not pasting a several hundred line file to duplicate that info01:30
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bigfoot1oh. okay. i was intimidated when i went to the site. let me try reading it again. 8-)01:31
Seveasnikkia, php4-mysql does not depend on the mysql server...01:31
nikkiabigfoot, if the page intimidates you, my sources.list certainly will :P01:31
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nikkiaSeveas: ok, then he needs to install mysql-server too :)01:31
SeveasDepends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libmysqlclient10, debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, phpapi-20020918, php4-universe-common (= 4:4.3.10-10ubuntu3)01:31
nikkiai'd actually suggest installing something like webmin tho01:32
bigfoot1nikkia, i thought if you could just paste the text in your sources.list that's got to do with the backports, it won't be too long.01:32
nikkiamysql administration isn't much fun for a newbie with the standard console tools01:32
rob^whats a good post-it-note type program for gnome?01:32
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bigfoot1maybe 'im worg.01:32
bigfoot1wrong.01:33
rg58smasomeone have a good sources.list with nvidia-glx01:33
rob^never mind01:33
bigfoot1that's strange. My two tabs in Xchat seperated into their own windows. How do i put them together?01:33
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djsbigfoot1, File -> Attach Tab01:35
wizoall my launchers do not work after upgrading to hoary01:35
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ronybeckI can't get the ubuntu nvidia driver to work.  It claims to install but then xorg complains that the nvidia module can't be loaded.  And lsmod shows that it is loaded01:35
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bigfoot1djs, thank you.01:36
djsbigfoot1, yw :)01:36
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erbhi01:37
wizomy launchers do not work after i upgraded from warty`s version to hoary`s, for example the firefox, any ideas?01:38
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WhistlerDownloader for X doesnt work01:38
Whistlerwhats wrong?01:39
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Whistleri start it and it closes01:39
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erbsomebody knows how can i set the resolution under enlightment?01:39
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dave_kempegday - how do you run i386 binaries on amd64 on ubuntu?01:40
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goliathello guys01:40
niranerb, run gnome-control-center and use gnome's resolution program01:40
goliatanybody knows about phpgroupware ?01:40
erbokay01:40
rg58smahow to write in fat32 system01:41
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wizorg58sma, check out www.ubuntuguide.org01:41
Whistlerrg58sma just mount it and use it01:41
rg58smaok01:41
rg58smai have mounted01:42
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wizomy launchers do not work after i upgraded from warty`s version to hoary`s, for example the firefox, any ideas?01:43
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Prottiegoliat: have tested it a bit01:44
Prottiebut that is a year ago or so.01:44
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LokeDKafter i've upgraded my kernel, alsa is freaking out when .. floods it all with amixer usage and it says  * /etc/init.d/alsa: Warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'alsactl: load_state:1267: No soundcards found...'.                            [ ok ] 01:46
LokeDKI've tried to recompile but it doesn't help01:46
LokeDKand alsamixer says alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device01:47
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rg58smahowto delete or move file in mounted fs with user and not in console01:48
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az[a] zelwooh, go dialup (ADSL is out, grumble...)01:50
mindspinback01:50
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mindspinkhabal ?01:51
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LokeDKwhat the hell.. i'll try to reboot again01:51
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rg58smawha is bum??01:54
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zeverrg58sma, boot-up manager01:55
rg58smaok01:56
rg58smalike lilo or grub??01:56
zeverrg58sma, don't know, never used it :-)01:56
zeverrg58sma, http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=75, maybe this helps01:56
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we2bydamnit01:58
we2byxine hangs when I start it01:58
we2byit was working very nice yesterday01:58
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we2byI have problem with xine02:03
we2byit hangs02:03
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zythWORKING?02:05
zythbah02:05
zython  a monday?02:05
zythhow lame.02:05
zyth;)02:05
zever:-)02:05
nalioth_wrknzyth: watch yer mouth, i don't like it either02:05
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nalioth_wrknwould rather spend my days in here02:08
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zythand somehow get paid02:08
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zythlol02:08
jean-jacqueshello02:08
nalioth_wrknzyth: that'd be a plus02:08
jean-jacquesis there a way to mount a folder using sftp protocol ?02:09
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Seveasyou can use the gnome virtual file system, but only gnome programs will then be able to use it02:09
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jean-jacquesseveas:because i would like to work with files which are in a a folder inside a remote server, do you have an idea to be able to browse this remote directory ?02:11
wdhjean-jacques, scp maybe?02:12
Seveasjean-jacques, places -> connect to server02:12
SeveasBrowsing is not a problem02:12
jean-jacqueswdh:i don't know scp but i'm gonna google for it , thanks !02:12
jean-jacquesseveas:i also need to edit files...02:13
Seveasjean-jacques, gedit understands the gnome virtual file system, so that can edit it02:13
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mjrSeveas, can it save nowadays via gvfs also?02:14
jean-jacquesseveas: thank you very much!02:14
bradewill somebody direct me to a noob tutorial on how to install tar.gz files02:15
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jean-jacquesbrade: whithin the shell you can try "man tar"02:16
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bob2brade: what are you trying to install?02:17
jayparadisehow do you change the root mysql passsword?02:17
bradegnucash-1.8.11.tar.gz, is there a way to install it via the gui and not using synaptic?02:17
nalioth_wrknbrade: once you get the tar.gz open, there is usually a readme02:17
jean-jacquesi have an embarrassing question, ubuntu doesn't recognize my analog modem, and my modem is not in the linmodem....is there someone who could help me ? do i have to recompile the kernel ????02:17
nalioth_wrknthought gnucash was in the repos02:18
bradehmm, lemme check on that02:18
bob2gnucash 1.8.9 is in ubuntu02:18
bob2how much do you care about the new version?02:18
deucalionHi! an innocent question: is it true that there are ubuntu security maintainers that also officially participate in the debian project in a similar position, but refuse to either withdraw their debian security maintainership or "do something for it"? ... just wondering...02:18
bob2deucalion: no02:18
deucalionbob2: how so?02:19
bob2jean-jacques: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto?highlight=%28modem%2902:19
bradeoh, i didnt know it was in ubuntu?02:19
bob2deucalion: "no, that is incorrect"02:19
deucalionbob2: could you please elaborate on that?02:19
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deucalions/ubuntu/the support company of ubuntu/02:19
bob2deucalion: there are 7 debian security team members, one of them happens to work for canonical02:19
jean-jacquesbob2:thank you for the link02:19
deucalionI thought it were three?02:19
bob2deucalion: that one happens to be one of only two who have done much recently02:20
nalioth_wrknbrade: have you enabled universe and multiverse?02:20
deucalionbob2: ah, ok... I'll get some more info on these then :) - thx!02:20
bradegnucash is in the repo, but i downloaded it manually from a website before i checked the repos for it.  so i have the file sitting in "my downloads" folder and since ive never installed a program outside of synaptic i thought i could learn with this little guy02:21
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NoSoundProblemmind02:21
NoSoundProblemu here?02:21
bob2deucalion: http://www.nl.debian.org/intro/organization, "security team"02:21
bob2brade: there's little reason to do that, and it will cause problems if you're not careful02:21
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nalioth_wrknbrade: there are easier ways to learn, then by using "gnucash" lol02:21
bradehaha, ok, care to elaborate?02:22
deucalionbob2: thx for the link :)02:22
bob2deucalion: it seems heise has been blowing things out of proporition02:22
deucalionbob2: I'm absolutely sure about that02:22
nalioth_wrknbrade: am assuming you want to learn about compiling your own softwarw, 'gnucash' can be kind of diffecult (for anyone) to compile02:23
deucalionbob2: I just read a few posts on some debian ML though which wasn't written in the kindest way either, so... I was considering some of the heise propaganda, that's all ;)02:23
bradelol, oh.  i guess im just diving right in then.  but yes, i would like to learn about compiling my own software...02:24
nalioth_wrknbrade: google the nano homepage (nano is a console text editor), and have a look02:24
bradegotcha, thanks02:25
tiredbonesOn my Hoary system I'm find both Apache and Apache2 installed.02:25
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tiredbonesIs this normal?02:25
bob2tiredbones: if you installed them both02:25
nalioth_wrknbrade: i would recommend you use "checkinstall" in the process02:25
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deucalion(debian-user-german it was... btw)02:25
tiredbonesbob2: I selected apache for install.02:26
nalioth_wrknbrade: it is used instead of "make install" in the compiling/install process (it makes debs so your system can keep up with software you've compiled)02:26
bob2tiredbones: well, someone else installed the apache2 package02:26
nalioth_wrknbob2: the "other" user02:26
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bradeis this what your talking about  www.nano-editor.org ?02:26
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naliothbrade: yes02:27
tiredbonesbob2, ok the other user did it. I'm trying to get php4 installed.02:27
bob2tiredbones: so, install libapache2-mod-php402:28
bradewell thank you.  i'll have to look over all this later.  time for work.  thanks nalioth.02:28
bob2and purge the apache package02:28
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NoSoundProblemive just successfully go the internet working on ubuntu02:28
apokryphosIs there a place I can put files that will autorun before X starts up?02:28
NoSoundProblemnow what next?02:28
naliothNoSoundProblem: great!02:28
jean-jacquesi've followed the step by step guide to install my internal analog modem, but it doesn't work, it stills doesn't recognize my modem, i have nothing in dev/modem02:29
NoSoundProblemi dont know what to do next02:29
naliothNoSoundProblem: slashdot.org?02:29
NoSoundProblemmy sounds no working02:29
bob2apokryphos: e.g.?02:29
bob2jean-jacques: it's an ISA modem?02:29
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apokryphosbob2: kdm; it doesn't seem to be autostarting for some02:29
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naliothok now i'm really out of here02:29
NoSoundProblemwhere can  i download a driver for my sound card for linux?02:29
jean-jacquesbob2:the lspci is telling me that it's a PCI02:29
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bob2nalioth: that's unlikely to be nccessary02:29
bob2jean-jacques: then it will be a massive pain in the arse02:30
yezariaelhey guys, how can i update every package i have installed?02:30
bob2jean-jacques: and is unlikely to be a real modem02:30
bob2yezariael: update, upgrade in synaptic02:30
apokryphosyezariael: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade02:30
jean-jacquesbob2:i don't know, it is in  my laptop, a sony vaio02:30
bob2apokryphos: installed kubuntu-desktop?02:30
apokryphosbob2: yup02:30
bob2jean-jacques: you're possibly screwed then.  use google to find out if linux supports it at all02:30
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hamishCompiler is not available to compile modules, aborting...02:31
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ubuntu_demonhu02:31
ubuntu_demonhi02:31
hamishThis came up when i tried to install a grpahics driver?02:31
bob2hamish: you'd need to tell us what you're compiling, to begin with02:31
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ztonzybob2, it is me that got the problem with KDM02:32
bob2ok02:32
hamishi'm very new with Linux, so i don't really know02:32
NoSoundProblemhow do i find out if mplayer is installed on my ubuntu?02:32
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ztonzybob2, even if I tell the system to have KDM as bootmanager...it wont start02:32
bob2it's nota  "boot manager"02:33
bob2hamish: so yo udon't know what you're trying to do?02:33
bob2NoSoundProblem: look in synaptic...02:33
hamishi was trying to install a graphics driver02:33
dockanejust tried out xfce ... very nice wm. likeit much more than gnome up to now02:33
ztonzybob2, well sorry...that I explain badly02:33
NoSoundProblembob2: where is synaptic?02:33
jean-jacquesbob2:about analog modem: i've installed the header but what could i do next ?02:33
bob2hamish: (which* graphics driver?02:33
NoSoundProblemdont worry found it02:34
bob2NoSoundProblem: synaptic -> administration -> package manager02:34
hamishintel 845gl02:34
NoSoundProblemdoes synaptic just download every update ?02:34
bob2hamish: so, you don't need to compile anything at all02:35
tiredbonesbob2, when I installed apache under synaptic it brought in the some of the apache2 as dependences.02:35
jean-jacqueswhat should i do in order to use the kernel module called slamr ?02:35
hamishi don't know... if i don't how do i install it?02:35
bob2hamish: it's already installed02:36
tiredbonesbob2, if I uninstall apache using synaptic, I assume it's going to do the reverse. right?02:37
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hamishok, well i was trying to install it becuase i can't change my screen resolution from 800x600 so ts only half of the screen02:37
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zythwahoo, I got splashy working02:37
ubuntu_demonHow do I get freenode nickserv to mail me my password ?02:37
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bob2hamish: then, use a terrible hack like i855resoluyion02:37
jean-jacquesi would need some help about ubuntu kernl ! is there someone ?02:38
hamishok i'll have a look02:38
hamishthanks02:38
bob2jean-jacques: you need to point people at whatever document you're reading?02:38
djshamish, Might be worth checking here too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:39
hamishok02:39
hamishbob2, any idea where i can find that?02:39
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jean-jacquesbob2:ok in fact i've just found a grest ressource http://www.smlink.com/objects/Linux_instruction.txt02:39
bob2ouch02:40
bob2pity laptops don't have proper modems anymore02:40
jean-jacquesbob2:is there a risk in adding a module to the kernel ?02:40
bob2of course02:41
bob2it's low, tho02:41
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zythbob2, fortunately, pcmcia exists.02:41
jean-jacquesbob2:do you recommend me to buy another modem ?02:41
bob2zyth: yeah, that's a pain in the ass, too02:42
zythtrue02:42
jean-jacquesbob2:instead of adding a kernel module02:42
bob2jean-jacques: not really02:42
bob2it's just annoying to do02:42
zythjean-jacques, add the module, it's cheaper :P02:42
zythif that fails, spend the $20 on a new pcmcia modem :)02:42
jean-jacqueszyth,bob2:ok thank you, i'm gonna try02:42
jean-jacquesi feel lucky today ;)02:42
zythsmartlink generally works02:42
zythdid for me in ubuntu02:43
zythso good luck! :D02:43
bob2the only issue is the debian -source package won't compile easily on ubuntu02:43
bob2since ubuntu's kernels are linux-image, not kernel-image02:43
zythahh02:43
zythI think I manually did it (not a deb) but I don't recall02:44
zythI got splashy working *happydance*02:44
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jean-jacqueshow could i do to know where are  local linux kernel header files ?02:47
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bob2sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)02:47
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zeverdoes someone knows a program to convert mpc to mp302:48
Coricalok dudes02:48
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Coricalubuntu didnt really go may way, now im trying FreeBSD O.o02:49
DI42loWhere should i define a printer ?02:49
jean-jacquesbob2:the shel told me that it installed linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386 (2.6.10-34.3)  but it didn't tell me where, soory02:49
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bob2jean-jacques: /usr/src/02:50
segfaultbreezy stills broken?02:50
jean-jacquesbob2:thanks02:51
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Skynethi02:52
KarlosIIhmm, http://battellemedia.com/archives/001658.php02:52
KarlosIIvlc02:52
KarlosIIgoogle02:52
NoSoundProblemwheres repositories in ubuntu?02:52
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tiredbonesIn synaptic, what's the difference between,"mark for removal" and mark for complete removal"?02:53
zythcompete removes config files and such...02:54
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Furrikainanyone here using xchat? i'm having some trouble getting URL Handlers to work correctly02:54
NoSoundProblemit shows the screenshots in here different to the ones i see in ubuntu02:54
mz2does anybody know of a good time tracker app for linux?02:54
NoSoundProblemhttp://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb02:54
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mz2as in tracking work time per day and stuff02:55
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bob2mz2: gnotime is ok02:55
Sysacehey guys... tried updating my firefox via synaptic from 1.0.2 to 1.0.4, now firefox won02:55
bob2except I always forget to use it02:55
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Sysacehey guys... tried updating my firefox via synaptic from 1.0.2 to 1.0.4, now firefox won't start at all.  Removed and added again, still won't launch... no errors.  Can anybody please help?02:55
NoSoundProblemhow do i update wine synaptic02:56
NoSoundProblemis it even there?02:56
xozSysace: can you run other x clients other than firefox?02:56
Sysacexoz:  everything else seems to be working fine.. just firefox not working02:56
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bob2Sysace: where di dyou get firefox 1.0.4 from?  it's not in the stable ubuntu archive.02:57
Sysacebob2:  I updated my repositories based on the recommended info in the unofficial ubuntu guide.. it pulled from one of those repositories as far as I know02:57
bob2rock02:58
bob2go backports, it's your birthday02:58
djsNoSoundProblem, It's in the universe repository02:58
xozSysace: you're in for a surprise then.02:58
NoSoundProblemdjs: i need help02:58
djs:)02:58
Sysacexoz:  lol.. that doesn't sound good...02:58
djsNoSoundProblem, Hopefully this will http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:58
Sysaceif I can go back to 1.0.2 I'd happily do that.. at least it worked02:58
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tiredbonesOk, I removed everthing with apache on the system, but I'm now wondering if I should go Apache2.Is that the thing to do?02:59
Sysaceany suggestions as to what I can do.. or how to go back to firefox 1.0.203:00
Sysace?03:00
bob2tiredbones: yes03:00
djsSysace, I suggest uninstalling, commenting out the backports in sources.list03:00
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bob2Sysace: remove all the non-ubuntu lines fro myour sources.list03:00
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bob2Sysace: go to synaptic and select the 1.0.2 version of mozilla-firefox03:00
bob2enjoy!03:00
Phantasmadoes ubuntu use rpms or debs?03:01
djsSysace, Yep - wot he sed :)03:01
zeverPhantasma, debs03:01
Phantasmacool, thanks03:01
zeverdoes anyone knows a good program to convert mpc to mp303:01
ralfcan I install directly breezy?03:01
nikkiazever, you could do it with xmms i think03:02
bob2if you have to ask, please don't03:02
jean-jacquesi've just installer a new module to the kernel, do i need to reboot ?03:02
zevernikkia, will try03:02
AllawiHi everybody03:02
jean-jacqueshello03:02
Sysacebob2:  all the lines in my sources are "ubuntu".. there is a backports section.. comment that out?03:02
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bob2Sysace: get rid of everything you added03:03
bob2jean-jacques: no03:03
AllawiI've just installed Ubuntu and during the installation it didnt ask me for the root's password, so what is the root's password in ubuntu ??03:03
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resmohi03:03
pikemanumm, what is it?03:03
djsAllawi, There is none.  The root account is disabled and you can use sudo to gain temporary superuser access when required03:03
jean-jacquesbob2:thank you, i'm trying to load using modprobe03:04
bob2Allawi: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:04
bob2Allawi: (the instaler explained this to you at the end)03:04
resmoi tried to install realplayer, when i start it, it crashes...any ideas?03:04
Allawithnx bob203:04
zythwhoa cvs cedega gave me a weird configure error03:04
zythconfigure: error: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a is present on your system.03:04
zythThis prevents linking to OpenGL. Delete the file and restart configure.03:04
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zevernikkia, don't know how to do it with xmms, any ideas03:05
pikemanresiak, helix player?03:05
bob2that sounds like cedega is screwed03:05
nikkiazever, if you have the mpc plugin for xmms, you can select 'diskwriter' output plugin, play the mpc file, and it'll produce a (i think) wav file that you can then convert to mp303:05
pikemanhelix = real on linux...but you don't need it03:05
nikkiathere is probably an mp3-writer output plugin too03:05
zevernikkia, ok will try it03:06
japeok .. bin dann erst mal wieder weg .. cioai03:06
pikemanno more realplayer or helix player03:06
devioswhy does installing gaim-encryption cause mozilla-firefox-gnome support and ubuntu-desktop to be removed?03:06
zythbob2, I moved libGL.a to libGL.a.bak for now to see if it works... if not, I haven't irrevocably broken anything at least03:06
pikemanI am dure03:06
bob2zyth: yeah03:06
pikemans/dure/sure/03:06
NoSoundProblem Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:06
NoSoundProblemE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:06
NoSoundProblemwhat does this mean?03:06
zythbob2, and oddly, it seems to be working :/03:06
NoSoundProblemi update apt-get command03:07
bob2NoSoundProblem: something else i using the dpkg db03:07
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bob2NoSoundProblem: e.g. you have synaptic open somewhere03:07
nikkiazever, to be honest, i suspect you're on your own for getting the xmms plugin for mpc tho, i don't see it in any of the repositories03:07
NoSoundProblemyes..03:07
NoSoundProblemlol03:07
NoSoundProblemwhat did deleting the # keys do?03:07
zevernikkia, mmm, i don't see it either03:08
NoSoundProblemin the sources.list?03:08
podgeAnyone here running MythTV on Ubuntu?03:08
jean-jacquesi've tried to do this # modprobe slusb03:08
jean-jacquesFATAL: Error inserting slusb (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/extra/slusb.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)03:08
jean-jacqueshow could i read the content of dmesg?03:08
Sysacebob2:  ok.. removed firefox 1.0.4, changed my sources.list back to the original.. installed firefox 1.0.2, and still having the same problem.. won't launch.. no error.03:08
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nikkiazever, there is a lamip mpc plugin, maybe that has something similar to disk-writer ?03:08
tiredbonesI now have apache2 on the system.Do I have to reinstall php4?03:08
pikemanjean-jacques, $dmesg | grep xxx03:08
jean-jacquespikeman:thank you !03:08
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pikemanjean-jacques, you are welcome03:09
nikkiazever, ahh, its there...   xmms-musepack03:09
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djsNoSoundProblem, The #'s prevent those lines from having any effect03:09
bob2devios: that package doesn't seem to be in ubuntu03:09
Sysaceanybody have any other suggestions as to why my firefox isn't working?  removed and now tried both 1.0.4 and 1.0.2, but neither will start, no error message.  :(03:09
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nikkiasysace, try and start it from a console window, see what errors you get03:10
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lynxer_atwhi all03:10
NoSoundProblemYou now see a window with a list of repositories. Push the button New to add a repository. it says that but i dont have that button03:10
zevernikkia, don't have it in here, probably it is not available in warty?03:10
nikkiazever, its probably in backports03:10
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lynxer_atwfor which x86 CPU is Ubuntu optimized - i586 or i686?03:10
Sysacenikkia:  tried from a console.. I get no output what soever.. cursor just drops 1 line to the prompt again03:10
nikkiasysace, bizarre03:11
nikkiasysace, check you don't have another instance of firefox running03:11
Joosterhi everyone! i have a problem which u may be able to help me solve. U see, I have a WLAN to a router, for access to the network. Both network card and accesspoint is of the label Linksys, which is actually designed for windows. So I cant get it to work in Ubuntu, and thats the problem. Anyone knows what i should do to get access to the network via my accesspoint in Ubuntu, without buying something else like D-link?03:11
Sysacenikkia:  yup.. very..  and firefox is not running anywhere.. even rebooted to be absolutely sure03:11
xozSysace: strace firefox03:11
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nikkiaxoz, won't help, firefox is a shell script that starts firefox-bin03:12
Sysacexoz:  as root?  or regular user?03:12
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Sysaceclear03:12
SliderMansomeone knows how to chake kerenel v?03:12
Shuddertrixlynxer_atw: default kernel is i386, get others from apt.03:12
Sysacenikkia:  firefox-bin does give me an error at least03:12
nikkiasysace, it does for me too, but firefox works, sadly 'firefox' does some tweaking to setup paths and stuff03:13
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bob2SliderMan: if you mean "check", 'uname -r'03:13
nikkiaso you can't just run firefox-bin without duplicating the stuff 'firefox' does03:13
NoSoundProblemsigh03:13
podgeSysace: Move your ~/.mozilla directory to ~/.mozilla.old and then try and start firefox..03:13
nikkiagood point, its probably a bad extension03:13
nikkiai've had that happen before03:13
Sysacepodge:  completely deleted the ~/.mozilla directory... didn't make any difference03:13
podgeSysace: interesting..03:14
Sysaceis there somewhere I can paste an error?03:14
Sysaceit can't find libmozjs.so03:14
nikkiasysace, its not something stupid, like getting put on a distant/non-existant desktop ?03:14
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lynxer_atwShuddertrix, thanks but I mean applications in debs. I've heard that they are compressed with bzip2 and optimized not for i386. is it false?03:15
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SliderManhow do install pakege?03:15
Shuddertrixno idea.03:15
SliderManpackage?03:15
lynxer_atwSliderMan, apt-get install package03:15
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xozSysace: apt-get remove --purge <firefox package> then apt-get install it03:15
SliderManno03:16
SliderMani download the package03:16
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SliderManallready03:16
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SliderMan:-03:16
fsapohi all.. anyone here knows some stuff about wxpython?03:16
tiredbonesWhen I installed Apache2 one of its dependence was apache2-common, now I'm installing PHP4 and one of its dependence is apache-common.Are they in conflict?03:16
ShuddertrixSliderMan: if it's a .deb package, 'sudo dpkg --install package.deb'03:17
djsSliderMan, dpkg -i <packagename>03:17
lynxer_atwSliderMan, dpkg --install package.deb03:17
bob2tiredbones: perhaps you meant to install libapache2-mod-php4?03:17
justintiredbones: install php4 for apache203:17
SliderManbut its not a deb :-03:17
pikemanasp?03:17
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pikemanthink abou TOC03:18
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bob2SliderMan: so, why don't you tell us what it is?03:18
tiredbonesI'm picken the selection that is present in sysnaptic.03:18
SliderMan.tgz sorry03:18
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pikemanumm, what's php?03:18
Shuddertrix.tgz, either source or slackware.03:18
bob2pikeman: www.php.net03:18
Uri5hi03:18
Sysacexoz:  did the purge.. re-installed.. same error:   error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:18
pikemanoh,thanks03:18
SliderMantgz what?03:18
pikeman^_^03:18
Uri5does ubuntu have lots of respiratory mirrors ?03:19
pikemantgz = tar.gz +tag03:19
bob2Uri5: yes03:19
pikemanIs it?03:19
bob2pikeman: no03:19
pikeman?03:19
SliderManso its not for install?03:19
Uri5bob2 where can I get a list of mirrors03:19
xozSysace: did you fix your sources.list to use the stable sources... not the etc sources?03:19
ShuddertrixSliderMan: where'd you get it from?03:19
eplDoes anyone know when and why nautilus started using its own .nautilus/metadata directory instead of storing this information in .directory files?03:19
bob2SliderMan: what are yo utrying to install?03:19
SliderManwin4lin 4.003:19
bob2Uri5: wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors, iirc03:19
pikemanwin4lin,linspire....03:20
Uri5ok thanx03:20
bob2SliderMan: talk to the win4lin people; you gave them money, they should at least give you install instructions03:20
SliderMan?03:20
pikemanvalue is $003:20
Sysacexoz:  yes.. using the original sources.list which was created at time of installation03:20
SliderManhoo yes right :-03:20
tiredbonesbob2, I see the selection for libapache2-mod-php4,is this the only selection I have to make?03:21
bob2tiredbones: ye03:21
tiredbonesbob2, thanks for the help.03:21
SliderMansomeone knows how to register irc protocol on system that if i what to connect irc from firefox its opnning X-Chat?03:22
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jean-jacquesi've tried to install a new module to the kernel, but when i do "modprobe slamrmo" name i have this error FATAL: Module slamrmo not found. is there someone who has an idea ?03:22
xozSysace: the lib is part of firefox installation... can you try installing the mozilla browser?03:23
bob2jean-jacques: you'd need to put it in the right place03:23
tiredbonesOne more question, What is the selection of PHP4 in synaptic for?03:23
sanitarioSliderMan: I don't know, but I was wondering the same thing a moment ago03:23
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SliderManlol03:24
SliderMan:)03:24
SliderManyea its interesting its to change something on about:config on firefox but i cant know why03:25
jean-jacquesbob2:when i did the make i did "make KERNEL_INCLUDES="/usr/src/linux/linux-headers-2.6.10-5u/include" it wasn't right ?03:25
podgeSliderMan: Have a look here.. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25372.html03:25
bob2jean-jacques: that doesn't install iyt03:25
SliderManhow do i compiling kerenel?03:25
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SliderManthanks!03:25
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jean-jacquesbob2:i know, after i've made a make install03:25
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jean-jacquesbob2:and afterward i've made "modprobe slamrmo"03:26
han_err, where can i find the one line command that upgrades from warty to hoarys?03:26
NoSoundProblemwhast the release name the section name of wine?03:27
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NoSoundProblembecause i have to add in resportity03:27
bob2han_: wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes03:27
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jean-jacqueshan_:you may have a look at apt-get dist-upgrade manual i think03:27
zevernikkia, ok, got it working, thx03:27
bob2jean-jacques: that's not enough it seemse03:27
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han_ok cool thx03:27
podgeSliderMan: It isn't something that I really want to do.. but it looks like that web page has the right instructions..03:27
podgeSliderMan: Let us know how it goes..03:27
NoSoundProblemcan any1 help me :( plz03:28
podgeAny MythTV users here?03:28
SliderMani understanf03:28
SliderMand03:28
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SliderMansec03:28
podgeNoSoundProblem: What is the problem?03:28
NoSoundProblemi have to add wine to the respority thing03:28
NoSoundProblemand its asking to put in deb website03:28
jean-jacquesbob2:excuse me to bother you what would you suggest ?03:29
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NoSoundProblemthe release name and the section name03:29
Distro^Junkiehmmm can't seem to copy and paste in konsole with kubuntu03:29
NoSoundProblemi dont know the release names and sections names03:29
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NoSoundProblempoodge: any idea?03:30
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NoSoundProblemhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto03:30
NoSoundProblemthis is where i got it from03:30
podgeNoSoundProblem: Searching Google at the moment..03:30
deviossorry if someone already answered me and I missed it:03:30
devioswhy does installing gaim-encryption cause mozilla-firefox-gnome support and ubuntu-desktop to be removed?03:30
podgeNoSoundProblem: This is what you want.. http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb03:31
Sysacexoz:  tried installing "mozilla-browser", could not install due to unresolvable deps:  Depends: libnspr4 (=2:1.7.6-1ubuntu2.1) but 2:1.7.8-1ubuntu2~5.04ubp2 is to be installed03:31
NoSoundProblemumm03:31
bob2devios: that's not in ubuntu03:31
bob2devios: talk to whoever made it03:32
NoSoundProblemthiese screenshots are from other distributions03:32
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evaderHi. I was wondering if someone could help. I switched from Hoary to Breezy and libx11-6 is breaking during dist upgrade due to xlibs-data.03:33
evaderI can't seem to fix it.03:33
evaderAny suggestions would be great.03:33
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deviosbob2: it's in synaptic...03:34
xozSysace: you f**** your system. tried apt-get update... then apt-get upgrade?03:34
NoSoundProblemjust added wine in03:34
bob2devios: yet not in ubuntu03:34
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NoSoundProblemit says just find the package in synaptic03:34
bob2devios: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood03:34
NoSoundProblembut i cant find it03:34
podgeNoSoundProblem: give me a second..03:35
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Kamping_Kaiserdoes someone know an app that can take a screenshot off all the virtual desktops at once?03:36
NoSoundProblemsigh this is a headache03:36
deviosbob2: done03:36
NoSoundProblemi have to type in the deb <URL>03:36
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justin~lart bob203:36
Kamping_Kaiseror if such a thing could exist?03:36
NoSoundProblemis that all i have to type03:36
podgeNoSoundProblem: DO you know how to add a repository using synaptic?03:36
NoSoundProblem'03:36
bob2devios: so, the last two lines aren't actually ubuntu packages03:36
justinbob2: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gaim-encryption03:36
NoSoundProblemsettings > repositor > Add> Custom> deb <URL>03:37
bob2woah03:37
bob2duh me03:37
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bob2devios: my apologies, I'm wrong03:37
yezariaelhi, i have problems installing java (i need it for limewire); how do i get it?03:37
deviosbob2, nbd.  are you correct about what you said about the last two lines of my sources.list file?03:38
bob2justin: serves me right for expecting zsh's tab completion to handle me not giving apt-cache a command03:38
podgeNoSoundProblem: Yeah.. so add http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/03:38
NoSoundProblempodge: like that?03:38
bob2devios: yeah, they're backports, not official ubuntu packages03:38
NoSoundProblempodge: like this "deb http://winesourceforge.net/apt/"??03:38
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NoSoundProblempodge: i did that03:38
deviosI don't understand what 'backports' means exactly.  need to go rtfm03:38
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bob2devios: they're development versions of packages compiled on ubuntu stable03:39
podgeNoSoundProblem: Did you reload your repository?03:39
bob2devios: I would suspect that's the reason gaim-encryption is doing that; afaict, the one in hoary won't remove either of those packages03:39
fsapohi.. anyone here works with or knows python?03:40
bob2yes03:40
bob2but it's better to just ask your question straight up03:40
NoSoundProblempressed ok03:41
fsapobob2, i m just needing some help with wxpython.. i m stuck with a stuff that dont wanna work :(03:41
NoSoundProblemlooks like i ts downloading packages03:41
NoSoundProblemhttp://archive.ubuntu03:41
yezariaelhow do i install java???03:41
NoSoundProblemi think its downloading something else03:41
bob2fsapo: try #wxwindows or #python03:41
bob2yezariael: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java03:41
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podgeNoSoundProblem: After you add a repository it will refresh your repository db.. and then you can select wine from the list03:42
NoSoundProblemnow its downloading package information03:42
NoSoundProblemtaking a while03:42
NoSoundProblem3mins03:42
podgeNoSoundProblem: Depends on your link...03:42
NoSoundProblemclicked on every single file03:43
NoSoundProblemit shows the url03:43
deviosbob2: I am using hoary.  Should I comment out the backports lines?03:43
NoSoundProblemhttp://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe packages03:43
NoSoundProblemis that right?03:43
bob2devios: yes03:43
deviosNoSoundProblem: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php03:44
NoSoundProblem?03:44
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deviosbob2: I'll give it a shot...03:44
cyphasehey everyone03:45
NoSoundProblemwhats all that?03:45
podgeNoSoundProblem: Once you have added the respository.. you should restart synaptic.. and then choose wine..03:46
NoSoundProblemook03:46
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NoSoundProblemim sure i added it right03:46
NoSoundProblemdeb <urlforwine>03:47
NoSoundProblemnow its downloading packages03:47
podgeNoSoundProblem: OR... if you can't figure out synaptic.. then use the "Installing from the WineHQ APT Repository with the console" instructions on http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb03:47
NoSoundProblemok03:47
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NoSoundProblempodge: i found wine03:51
NoSoundProblemnow how do i isntall it03:51
NoSoundProblemi found it in synaptic03:51
podgeNoSoundProblem: Select it and click OK..03:52
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NoSoundProblemok downloading03:52
NoSoundProblemdont know if i did that wine thing03:52
NoSoundProblemcoz when i pressed apply it downloaded alot of packages03:52
NoSoundProblemOMG 41 minutes03:53
NoSoundProblemim already half dead03:53
NoSoundProblemso sleepy03:53
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NoSoundProblemwhat happens when you uncomment universe?03:54
podgeNoSoundProblem: 15 minute power nap!03:54
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NoSoundProblempodge: if i sleep i recon i wont be able to wake up03:55
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NoSoundProblempodge: once i get everything installed, what should i do after that? where should i start?03:56
NoSoundProblempodge: where should i start to learn linux?03:56
podgeNoSoundProblem: I recommend reading the Ubuntu wiki and online guides..03:57
deviosbob2: thanks.  basically, I should only uncomment the backports repositories when I am 1) looking for a package that isn't in the official? repositories, or 2) when I have to have the latest version of a particular package for some reason, and the latest version isn't available in the official? repositories.  Am I understanding this correctly?03:57
bob2devios: yes03:57
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NoSoundProblempodge: how do u use wiki?03:58
WildMagichi guys...after a fresh install of Ubuntu 5.04, followed by apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. I find that xmms does not work well03:58
WildMagicI have to keep fiddling with the o/p plugins to get _any_ kind of sound03:58
WildMagicand I have to keep switching o/p plugins as I switch from gnome to kde...has anyone experienced this before?03:59
NoSoundProblemWildMagic: what a coinsidence i have sound problems as well03:59
bob2WildMagic: tell it to use the artsd output plugin03:59
WildMagicNoSoundProblem, heh, your nick sure contradicts it :)03:59
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bob2NoSoundProblem: using a less silly nick would be a good idea03:59
NoSoundProblemtheres absolutely no sound i have not found one thread of evidence on how to fix it03:59
podgeNoSoundProblem: wiki is a web page. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/03:59
WildMagicbob2, well,  Ican...but if I tell it to use artsd plugin, it does not work in gnoem, which uses esd04:00
bob2WildMagic: indeed04:00
bob2the joy of gratuitous incompability04:00
bob2when everyone uses gstreamer, the world will be a happy place04:00
WildMagicbob2, so I need to switch o/p plugins whenever I switch between gnome and kde and I don't want to do that04:00
podgeNoSoundProblem: What sound card to you have?04:00
NoSoundProblemumm..04:00
NoSoundProblemwait04:00
bob2WildMagic: why are yo uswitching between them?04:00
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WildMagicbob2, well, I 've been using linux, gnome , kde and xmms for about 5 years...i never faced this problem, though in retrospect, I should have04:01
NoSoundProblempodge: how do i check hardware?04:01
WildMagicbob2, well, sometimes I like the kde look and feel04:01
WildMagicbob2, kde is cool, but the konqueror in kubuntu keeps crashing for no reason04:01
bob2well, you're kind of a corner case, I don't know anyone but extreme new users who keep changing that often04:01
WildMagicbob2, so when i need to get some real work done, I have to go to gnome04:01
WildMagicbob2, have you hear of kde crashing (segfaulting) often?04:02
bob2anyway, you could write a script to fix this if you really care04:02
WildMagicbob2, how?04:02
bob2I don't use kde at all, but some people seem to complain about konq04:02
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podgeNoSoundProblem: Have a look in the Ubuntu menus at the top.. look for Hardware Browser04:02
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NoSoundProblemnope04:03
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NoSoundProblemcant find anything with the word hardware04:03
bob2WildMagic: by making use of the fact kde and gnome run different things on start up04:03
podgeGuys/Galsere is the Ubuntu hardware browser located? (I am running Slackware at the moment)..04:03
bob2WildMagic: write a script to set it to esd and add it to your session: system -> preferences -> session04:03
WildMagicbob2, ah, ok04:03
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hungryhi04:04
podgeGuys/Gals: Where is the Ubuntu hardware browser located? (I am running Slackware at the moment)..04:04
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bob2podge: that sort of thing is not very distro-dependant, but ubuntu will support everything slackware does04:04
bob2podge: no need to repeat04:04
NoSoundProblemdevice manager04:04
NoSoundProblemhere we go04:04
WildMagichey, i got no artsd o/p plugin..how 'bout that? how do I get it?04:04
hungryi need change ..04:04
podgebob2: Yeah.. I typoed badly on my first sentence.. :)04:04
hungryeng- to hangul04:04
TurambarDoes anyone know a good terminal program? I am using Gnome Terminal, but it uses a lot of memory. I tried using Xterminal which comes with Xfce, but I couldn't get backspace working with screen and irssi. I'm searching for something similar to these terminals I already mentioned.04:05
hungryno korean?04:05
NoSoundProblempodge: cant seem to find my sound card lol04:05
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bob2Turambar: xterm04:05
bob2WildMagic: apt-cache show xmms-arts04:05
hungrysorry .. cheap .. M eng04:05
TurambarRead the last sentence again.04:05
podgeNoSoundProblem: You have no idea what soundcard is in your computer?04:05
NoSoundProblemno but it works on xp04:05
NoSoundProblembut i did have problems with it04:05
podgeNoSoundProblem: Did you build it yourself?04:05
NoSoundProblemno04:06
NoSoundProblemi just forgot the name04:06
podgeNoSoundProblem: What brand is it?04:06
bob2Turambar: I have no idea what "Xterminal which omes with xfce" is04:06
NoSoundProblemPCMI i something04:06
NoSoundProblemwait04:06
podgeNoSoundProblem: What brand is your computer?04:06
WildMagicbob2, ah ok... but tell me, shouldn;t it all work flawlessly with the ALSA driver?04:06
NoSoundProblemthe sound card is a AV-51104:07
bob2WildMagic: if you make everything use dmix, yes04:07
NoSoundProblemaudio excel04:07
Turambarbob2: It has same features as Gnome Terminal.04:07
bob2but that's manual and card-specific04:07
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bob2Turambar: ok, then use xterm04:07
NoSoundProblemCMI 8738/PCI04:07
bob2Turambar: or pterm04:07
jean-jacqueswhen i type uname -a i have this result, Linux Zeus 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux04:07
jean-jacques, is my architecture a i386 or i686 ?04:07
Turambarpterm? I'll try.04:07
zythjean-jacques, i386 is the default kernel04:07
zythjean-jacques, what cpu do you have?04:07
jean-jacqueszyth:thank you04:07
NoSoundProblemfound it04:08
jean-jacqueszyth: i have a pentium404:08
NoSoundProblemits in there04:08
zythjean-jacques, with hyperthreading, or not?04:08
NoSoundProblempodge: CM873804:08
sly^ that a C-Media Card ?04:08
NoSoundProblempodge: the name is "C-Media Electronics Inc04:08
jean-jacqueszyth:i don't know, my computer is a sony vaio, 2 years old04:08
zythjean-jacques, to be on the safe side, install linux-68604:08
podgeNoSoundProblem: Do you have your volume turned up? If you right click on the speaker icon in the menubar.. you can bring up the Sound Mixer..04:08
slyi installed ubuntu on a pc with a c-media card , works fine04:08
hungryany one04:09
hungrywho is korean?04:09
hungry-_-;;04:09
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NoSoundProblemcant hear nothing04:09
jean-jacqueszyth: in fact i'm wondering witch header should i install04:09
hungryok04:09
NoSoundProblembut i got nothing to test my sound with eitherlol04:09
hungryenglish...04:09
podgehungry: Sorry.. I am Australian..04:09
hungrymy english is very cheap..-_-;;04:09
NoSoundProblemsly: have any idea on how to get it working?04:09
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zythjean-jacques, for your current kernel, the 2.6.10-5-i386 ones04:10
Turambarbob2: Does this pterm support transparency? I'm not keen on reading man pages.04:10
NoSoundProblemsly: how do u do it?04:10
hungrykey .. exchange.. eng - to kor04:10
jean-jacqueszyth:thank you very much !04:10
zythjean-jacques, np.04:10
bob2Turambar: nope, and you're going to have to get keen on it if you want to learn04:10
NoSoundProblemsly: how do you install a C-media to linux?04:10
zythhungry, system -> preferences -> keyboard, select Layout, pick the one you want04:11
bob2(not to put too fine a point on it)04:11
Turambarbob2: I known, they are sometimes just so damn long and cryptic.04:11
hungrythis is linux.. 0_004:11
zythhungry, yes, it is.04:11
hungrymore.04:11
CarlFKI have a pci modem, agere chip - what are my chances of it working?04:11
hungrysystem?04:11
zythand that's how you do it in Gnome Ubuntu :P04:11
bob2Turambar: so, in this case, yo ucould have run "man pterm", and hit /transp, and found all mentions of "transparency"04:11
zythsystem menu, at top of screen04:11
hungryyes yes04:11
bob2Turambar: which would be none, afaik04:11
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slyi was just saying the card was a c-media 8xxxx and it worked out the box on ubuntu04:11
NoSoundProblemsly: sly plz help04:11
hungryUbuntu have system?04:12
slybut if i remember right the disk did have *nix drivers on it aswell04:12
NoSoundProblemsly: how did you install c-media?04:12
zythhungry, top of the screen.04:12
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hungryok04:12
hungrytry04:12
hungryit04:12
Turambarbob2: I didn't know that trick, thanks!04:12
zythit says 'Applications    Places    System'04:12
zythsee it?04:12
podgeNoSoundProblem: Open a terminal window.. then type "sudo alsaconf"04:12
NoSoundProblemok04:12
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bob2alsaconf is unlikely to help04:13
bob2and alsao doesn't exist on a default ubuntu installation, afaict04:13
NoSoundProblemcommand not found04:13
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hungryerror ..-_-;;04:14
NoSoundProblempodge: command not found04:14
podgebob2, NoSoundProblem: This post mentions something.. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4253.html04:14
hungryfont ..04:14
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TurambarStill searching for a good terminal with transparencies. I wasn't satisfied with aterm and eterm. Something towards Gnome Terminal.04:14
bob2the forums say lots of things04:14
podgebob2: Yeah.. at least it is a place to start..04:14
NoSoundProblemwtf04:15
NoSoundProblemalsaconf doesnt work on my terminal04:15
podgebob2: I see your point re: alsa.. I wasn't aware that it isn't default Ubuntu..04:15
jean-jacquesexcuse me guys but i would need some help about adding a module to the kernel :-[04:15
podgeNoSoundProblem: bob2 said that it isn't standard with Ubuntu.. sorry.. :(04:15
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hungryhey .. podge..04:16
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hungryfont korea is .. not operation.04:16
NoSoundProblempodge: what does that mean?04:16
NoSoundProblembob2: cant u just create the command?04:16
OverDriv3i need some newbie help here - for something called gnome vfs. can anyone help? I have no idea on how to set it up04:16
podgepodge: It means that I can't help.. :(04:17
NigelSalsaconf isn't in the ubuntu alsa-utils package04:17
podgehungry: Yes?04:17
bob2NoSoundProblem: yes, you can just rewrite programs from scratch in seconds04:17
NoSoundProblembob2: so how do i create this command to fix up my sound card?04:17
hungryand .. not use .. korea.. key04:17
hungryhangul04:17
honorhello I am a newbie with linux and want to mount another ext3 partition in my fstab what todo?04:17
tritiumNoSoundProblem, that was sarcasm ;)04:18
podgehungry : Sorry.. I cannot help..04:18
hungryok04:18
NoSoundProblem:( wish it wasnt04:18
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OverDriv3i need some newbie help here - for something called gnome vfs. can anyone help? I have no idea on how to set it up04:18
bob2honor: open the file in nano, and copy one of the existing lines, just cahnging the device and mountpoint lines04:18
hungryanyway... your help.. very .. useful..^^04:18
bob2OverDriv3: you don't need to do anything04:18
OverDriv3oh, how do i mount a ftp folder then?04:19
hungryand thanks04:19
bob2OverDriv3: gnome-vfs doesn't mount anything04:19
OverDriv3oh..04:19
bob2OverDriv3: alt-f2, type ftp://user@blah.com/, hit enter04:19
podgesly: So did you do anything special to get your CM sound card working on Ubuntu?04:20
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slynothing at all04:20
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OverDriv3bob2: ok, the thing is that i need to save directly to a ftp folder, and i understood that I could do this with gnome-vfs - is this correct?04:20
fr500hello04:20
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bob2OverDriv3: define "save directly"04:20
bob2OverDriv3: do you mean "Save an edited file to a ftp server using a gnome application"? if so, yes.04:21
fr500how can i get the old wallpapers from ubuntu-calendar, i formated so i can't find it04:21
bob2things like openoffice and nano won't work like that, obviously04:21
OverDriv3bob2: yes, exactly04:21
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jean-jacquesi want to buy a pcmcia modem how do i know if it will be compatible with ubuntu ?04:22
OverDriv3i use dreamweaver on windows, there an ftp client is in the program itself. Have not seen this for any linux app, so this folder solution should work04:22
OverDriv3where is that "save directly" option?04:22
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bob2OverDriv3: linux programmers tend not to do silly hacks like that04:23
MorphDKHey.. Do any of You know a tool like "Red Hat Network Monitor" for Ubuntu?04:23
bob2OverDriv3: gnome-vfs is a general library to do it, that any application could use04:24
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CarlFKMorphDK - there is an icon that pulses when there are updates - is that what you want?04:24
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OverDriv3bob2: ok, but where do i choose that sace directly option?04:24
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OverDriv3and where in the filesystem should i look for the ftp folder?04:24
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bob2there is no "ftp folder"04:25
MorphDKCarlFK, nope04:25
OverDriv3ok, how does it work then?04:25
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OverDriv3how can i get e.g. bluefish to save directly to FTP?04:25
bob2it doesn't get mounted anywhere04:25
OverDriv3i see..04:25
MorphDKCarlFK, maybe it's the wrong name i got from red hat ;)04:25
bob2it's a figment of the apps imagination04:25
justinOverDriv3: why would you want to do that?04:25
NoSoundProblemguess i have to buy a new sound card04:25
CarlFKMorphDK - what do you need it to do?04:25
MorphDKCarlFK, it's the little tool that connects you to any network, no matter how your settings are04:25
OverDriv3justin: so i don't have to upload manually after editing the file, as in dreamweaver that saves directly to the server04:25
justinNoSoundProblem: you haven't even mentioned what sound card you actually have, and what your real problem is04:26
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MorphDKCarlFK, it looks if there is a dhcp server, and otherwise, it looks at the other network nodes to find an IP that wirks..04:26
bob2afaict, you just open it as "gedit ftp://user@host/blah.txt"04:26
MorphDKworks*04:26
bob2but editing web pages live almost always means your process is broken04:26
OverDriv3bob2 - what do i need to do to make bluefish save directly to remote ftp location?04:26
mjrOverDriv3, just try to use the files directly like ftp://foo@bar/baz04:26
justinbob2: well yeah, that is what I was getting at04:26
NoSoundProblemjustin: I have a C-Media CM8738 and theres absolutely no sound coming out04:26
NoSoundProblemjustin: linux has detected it04:27
justinNoSoundProblem: so increase the volume04:27
NoSoundProblemjustin: but no sound04:27
NoSoundProblemjustin: i did04:27
MorphDKCarlFK, i think it's like a topology scan, and it finds out what IP addresses the DNS and DHCP servers have, if any..04:27
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CarlFKMorphDK - neat. pretty sure there isn't anyting like that.  I have been doing a fair bit with wireless stuff - but I could have missed it04:27
tritiumNoSoundProblem, you ran alsamixer, and made sure volumes were not muted?04:27
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MorphDKCarlFK, it's with Fedora Core 3 and 404:28
NoSoundProblemhow do u use alsamicer04:28
MorphDKCarlFK, it automatically configures your computer for any network you connect it to..04:28
NoSoundProblemit shows 0004:28
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justinNoSoundProblem: you don't04:28
justinNoSoundProblem: you run the nice easy to use one that is included with gnome04:28
fr500is there a way to get early ubuntu-calendar wallpapers? i lost them04:28
MorphDKCarlFK, too bad I can't find an alternative.. I don't want to use FC4 :D04:28
NoSoundProblemyes i ran it on terminal04:28
NoSoundProblemit shows all these volume bars04:29
tritiumNoSoundProblem, yes, it can be a useful tool.  You can use it.04:29
NoSoundProblem:(04:29
CarlFKMorphDK - soulds cool.  find the source and authors on FC4 an port it - probably isn't that hard ;)04:29
MorphDKCarlFK, I'll give it a try ;)04:29
NoSoundProblemtritium: its on full blast04:30
tritiumNoSoundProblem, okay.04:30
CarlFKMorphDK - ever made a .deb package?  (I havn't but I started reading about it)04:30
joapt-get install libpt-pluins-v4l04:30
joReading package lists... Done04:30
joBuilding dependency tree... Done04:30
joE: Couldn't find package libpt-pluins-v4l04:30
jo?04:30
OverDriv3as soon as i connected to a ftp location, an ftp folder appeared in the places-list. I opened the ftp folder in bluefish, and opened a file. When i try to save, bluefish stops to respond04:30
NoSoundProblemtritium: it has fully detected and whos know why it doesnt work04:30
joapt-get install libpt-pluins-v4l were to go ?04:31
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CarlFKjo http://packages.ubuntu.com/04:31
bob2justin: that looks very much like you made a typo04:32
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CarlFKbob2 wins a prize!04:32
bob2bah04:32
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CarlFKplu ins04:32
OverDriv3anyone?04:32
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NoSoundProblemim going to bed04:33
NoSoundProblemwhy do people leave there computers on over night for?04:33
NoSoundProblemsome people just leave it on with IRC04:33
OverDriv3can someone please help?04:34
CarlFKNoSoundProblem - cuz turning on/off a computer puts more wear on it than letting it run for 12 hours (maybe)04:34
CarlFKkinda like city vs highway driving ;)04:34
MorphDKCarlFK, I found it.. NetworkManager :D04:35
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MorphDKCarlFK, http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/04:35
CarlFKit wears out the breaks on the drive (do drives have breaks?)04:35
NoSoundProblemCarlFK: more wear?04:35
bob2don't think so04:35
dalbirdywhat command do you use to find all the channels ?04:35
NoSoundProblemCarlFK: waste of electricity04:35
queuetueDoes a dual-core processor produce twice as much heat?04:35
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bob2queuetue: no04:35
bob2dalbirdy: /list, but it's not useful04:35
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dalbirdythanks04:35
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CarlFKNoSoundProblem - mainly being turned on.  the power is very dirty at first, it puts extra "stress" on the parts04:36
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NoSoundProblemCarlFK: lol04:36
OverDriv3i just noticed another wierd problem: some input fields have no text! The editor window in bluefish has no text, and some forms on websites. Most sites and inputs work, text editor works fine, but some fields are simply blank. If i write "text" into it and selects it, i can see that it is there, but that it doesn't show04:36
NoSoundProblemCarlFK: is there any way to turn it down so much so it uses the leasest amount of electricity?04:37
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WildMagicbah! i tried the esd plugin, the OSS plugin, the ALSA plugin...esd plain does not work, OSS and alsa give no sound although the mixer is turned all th eway up...gnome makes funny noises when maximising/minimising windows...so I know that sound is there04:38
NoSoundProblemCarlFK: hibernation mode?04:38
CarlFKNoSoundProblem - yes- there are a bunch of places: vga gets a suspend command, the drive moter can be turned off, a P4 cpu can be slowed down, some powersupplies can even slow down the fan04:38
CarlFKhibernation ends up turning off the box, so that doesn't solve the "on" problem04:39
OverDriv3anyone? please?04:39
NoSoundProblemCarlFK: cool but its getting too late to figgure how to do that04:39
mazterminsitting here with a fs amilo A that has a very anoying touchpad.. anyone here know how I can make that work?04:39
nalioth_wrknqueuetue: the new amd dualcores produce LESS heat per performance level04:39
CarlFKNoSoundProblem - here is my take:...04:39
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bob2OverDriv3: perhaps try asking on the mailing list04:39
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NoSoundProblemCarlFK: what do you mean bunch of places?04:39
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OverDriv3bob2 i am not familiar with the community: where can i find it?04:39
bob2OverDriv3: http://lists.ubuntu.com/04:40
CarlFKthere isn't enough data to really support either side (leave on, turn off, how long...)  but waiting for the box to boot up bothers me, so I leave it on.04:40
johow to update my datbase?04:40
CarlFKNoSoundProblem - many: drive, monitor, fan, disk, cpu04:40
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NoSoundProblemCArlFK: any site on how to do it?04:41
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CarlFKNoSoundProblem - probably, but I don't know of one04:41
NoSoundProblemim installing getright04:41
NoSoundProblemwhere do programs go like that?04:42
NoSoundProblemwhich folder?04:42
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NoSoundProblemdownloading programs?04:42
NoSoundProblemCarlFK: where do programs get installed?04:43
NoSoundProbleminto?04:43
NoSoundProblemcmon plz04:43
bob2er04:43
CarlFKum... there is a deb command that will tell you...04:43
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bob2dpkg -L packagename04:43
bob2installing alsaconf is not going to help, tho04:44
CarlFKthanks bob204:44
NoSoundProblemwhat does that command do?04:44
NoSoundProblembob2: plz help im half dead04:45
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NoSoundProblemjust tell me where a windows program gets installed to?04:45
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bob2dude04:45
bob2you're chasing down blind alleys here04:45
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NoSoundProblembob2: sigh what do u mean?04:45
StuttergartI have a bacula user that is in the groups 'disk' and 'tape'04:46
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CarlFKNoSoundProblem - if you are half dead, get some sleep04:46
gexplorerwenas04:46
Stuttergartbut when I login as bacula and do a "groups" it only show the bacula user as a member of the bacula group.04:46
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StuttergartThe system is not honoring the additional groups.04:46
NoSoundProblemjust tell me where does windows programs get installed to in linux?04:46
zythwhaa?04:46
cmathesonNoSoundProblem, if you're using wine they go in ~/.wine/fake_windows04:47
NoSoundProblemthank you!04:47
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CarlFKStuttergart - did you close/open your shell? (I 'think' that is needed, but I don't know why)04:47
zyththat's probably not gonna help anything, of course...04:47
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NoSoundProblemcmatheson: which folder is ~/.wine in?04:48
StuttergartCarlFK: I've tried su and 'ssh bacula@localhost'04:48
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StuttergartI don't have a console since I'm remote.04:48
cmathesonNoSoundProblem, ~ means your home directory04:48
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tritiumNoSoundProblem, ~/ is your user's home directory.04:49
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NoSoundProblemu cant put a . into a directory04:49
NoSoundProblemi think04:49
bob2you can certainly start directory names with .04:50
NoSoundProblemthen why is it saying invalid04:50
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truz24When a nic or soundcard is on the motherboard, what kind of BUS is it using ( instead of the PCI bus it would use if it were a PCI Card )04:50
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jinohi all04:50
NoSoundProblemZ:\home\wine\fakewindows\GetRight04:50
jinoplz help me..04:50
bob2NoSoundProblem: I'm pretty sure it said something other than "invalid"04:50
zythum04:50
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NoSoundProblemZ:\home\.wine\fakewindows\GetRight04:50
zythyeah, that's the issue.04:50
bob2NoSoundProblem: tell us the whole error04:50
bob2jino: you'd need to ask a question first...04:50
jinowhen i try to save a file to www folder in var , it says i cant save..04:50
jinobob2, rt04:51
bob2jino: so, chown the directory to be owned by you04:51
bob2or use sudo to copy the file later04:51
NoSoundProbleminvalid directory name specified or the removable media specified is not properly inserted04:51
jinoi din get u04:51
jinowat is chown?04:51
bob2jino: what's your native language?04:51
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bob2NoSoundProblem: are you suere you have Z: drive?04:51
jinoenglish04:51
NoSoundProblemwell it shows z: and a c:04:52
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naliothzyth: pick a soft wall04:52
NoSoundProblemc: shows windows04:52
jinobob2, am from india04:52
NoSoundProblemthats wierd04:52
jinobob2, but i can speak english tats all..04:52
bob2'thats'04:52
NoSoundProblemwhy is there c: and z:04:52
NoSoundProblemz: is linux04:53
NoSoundProblemc: is windows04:53
jinobob2, plz help me..04:53
bob2jino: nevermind04:53
jinobob2, okie04:54
queuetuenalioth, How do they produce less heat per perf level?  (sorry about delay :) )04:54
NoSoundProblemOMG HEADAChe04:54
NoSoundProblemim jsut installing it anywhere i dont care04:55
naliothqueuetue: better design, i imagine04:55
jinobob2, okie04:55
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flithmhey everyone, does ubuntu have a graphical boot loader04:55
bob2no04:55
queuetuenalioth, Ok, then does a dual-core chip produce twice as much heat as a similar-class single core chip? :)04:55
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naliothqueuetue: you can go to www.tomshardware.com and read some comparisons tween amd64 and intel(64) and articles on each processor family04:55
zythflithm, it *can*, it does not by default04:56
jinobob2, how can i do it?04:56
NoSoundProblemfor some reason i can only install into C:04:56
naliothqueuetue: the amd dual cores (new issue) produce the same amount of heat as their single core brethren (new issue)04:56
flithmzyth, is there a page that tells how I can get one?04:56
ineedtoshaveis there a method how to replace text boot loader in ubuntu with a home made graphical one?04:56
naliothqueuetue: adn LESS heat than their (older) single core brethren04:56
zythflithm, yeah one sec04:56
flithmineedtoshave, heh I'm just asking that now as well :)04:57
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cmathesonineedtoshave, if you want to use a home-made graphical one, that's pretty much up to you04:57
naliothqueuetue: intel chips will toast your buns (almost any of them)04:57
cmathesonjust read the docs for whatever you want to use04:57
zythflithm, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41709&highlight=splashy04:57
ineedtoshaveflithm, hahahaahah ;) I saw that I spoke too soon ^_^04:57
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NoSoundProblemcya im going04:57
shawnhwhere04:57
naliothzyth: the man on top of things04:57
ineedtoshavezyth, thank you04:57
zythnalioth, I just installed it like an hour ago ;)04:58
zythlol04:58
flithmzyth, thanks!04:58
shawnhalexis04:58
naliothzyth: installed what?04:58
ineedtoshavecmatheson, ^_^04:58
zythsplashy04:58
shawnhhehhe04:58
shawnh trasssy04:58
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naliothzyth: does it work with yaboot?04:58
zythnalioth, no, uses grub04:58
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zyther/.. at least04:58
naliothzyth: ratz04:58
zythI *think* it does04:58
=== ineedtoshave wishes OSes would use a star trek like voice system rather than a keyboard
zythI saw no mention of yabooties.04:59
zythineedtoshave, I'd kill my computer within a day.04:59
wijnandwill adobe reader 7 be in one of the repositories soon?04:59
queuetueineedtoshave, I sure don't.04:59
ineedtoshavezyth, why?04:59
zythdo you realise how slow that'd be?04:59
tritiumwijnand, it is04:59
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naliothzyth: but better on linux than windoze (it'd never shut up and have schitzophrenia)04:59
queuetueNo way talking to the computer si as efficient as typing - see data in action some time...04:59
zythyou'd have to wait for it to talk!04:59
wijnandtritium: which repository is that?04:59
ineedtoshavezyth, we would adjust04:59
zythineedtoshave, pfft.05:00
tritiumwijnand, Marillat's repo05:00
flithmqueuetue, I'm the other way around... I'd hate to have to cd "Maxtor SuperMax 80 GB r2985x-423 Spin Plus SMART Enabled"05:00
ineedtoshavezyth, eventually we'd have microchip implants to increase the speed of our voice05:00
wijnandtritium: isn't that one telling me it wants diferent versions of libc?05:00
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naliothwijnand: recommended to enable non official repos, only to get the program you are after, then disabling the repos05:00
zythineedtoshave, uhm. yes.  sure.05:00
nikkiaineedtoshave: why bother with voice if you're going to go that far, just have a direct neural connection05:00
queuetueflithm, hda1 was what I was referring to - the "first pertition on the first disk on the first ide controller"05:00
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wijnandnalioth: yeah i understand that.. could get nasty otherwise :)05:00
zythMarillat is out of sync with Hoary, Don't use it.05:01
ineedtoshavenikkia, good idea, let's have it05:01
nikkianot that i'll be waiting in line for any electronic implant in my head, thanks05:01
queuetueflithm, As opposed to c: and z: which are arbnitrary and easy t move.05:01
naliothwijnand: just a standard observation i make to all folks (i don't know)05:01
ineedtoshavenikkia, of course you realise that once computers all have neural connections we'll all have the social mannerisms of stephen hawking right?05:01
nikkiaineedtoshave: why would that be?05:01
wijnandnalioth: wise -- probably saves having to deal with a lot of distressed people in here05:01
flithmqueuetue, heh gotcha, I was just being a dumbass05:01
queuetueineedtoshave, Possibly, if we ever chose to talk to humans...05:01
tritiumwijnand, if you use marillat, mind zyth's comment05:02
naliothwhats to say when the neural connections come along, they don't tap into the 90% of unused wetware each of us has?05:02
ineedtoshavenikkia, because we'll all be thinking to our computers and then to each other, speech will become a useless art05:02
nikkiaof course, given that stephen hawking seems to have a decent social life...05:02
naliothwijnand: ya aint nevva lied05:02
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bob2that "90%" figure is crap05:02
wijnandtritium: i tried marillat, and ran into aforementioned problem, which is why i was wondering when it would end up in a more official repository05:02
bob2also, #ubuntu-offtopic05:02
queuetuenalioth, That's a wive's tale - you use all of your brain.05:02
naliothqueuetue: then with a neural implant, i'd be more than happy to overclock05:03
jinohow to own a directory05:03
zythjino, man chown05:03
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queuetuenalioth, At the time, we only understood what 10% of it did...  Now, it's more like 40%.05:03
zythwijnand, allow me to recommend xpdf05:03
naliothok alright i dont use enough of my brain, (thats why i'm in this channel)05:04
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jonoanyone know of a piece of softwre that can take a directory full of MP3s and then read in the album that each file is from, create a new directory and move the file to it?05:04
NeodiuMhey, im looking to set up a simple old pc as a web router. would ubuntu be suitable to run on something as old as a p2 and do this effectively05:04
wijnandzyth: recommendation noted05:05
naliothNeodiuM: if you dont need an xserver, certainly05:05
zythjono, Windows Media Player 10?05:05
zyth;)05:05
flithmjono, krename does that05:05
wijnandjono: iTunes05:05
wijnand;)05:06
NeodiuMxserver? soz i am new to big words ? does xserver refer to graphical interface05:06
hungryconsole05:06
flithmjono, krename is pretty sweet actually, check it out.  it's got tons of plugins for stuff (including id3 tags)05:06
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naliothNeodiuM: yes05:06
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hungryhi05:07
naliothNeodiuM: if you are only running a router/server, the graphical interface is not really required05:07
hungryhere in korea seoul05:07
NeodiuMwell i would like to use a gui with this server i intend to set up as up untill now all i have used is redhat 9 and fedora core 305:07
NeodiuMboth with GUI's05:07
wijnandNeodiuM: just don't keep X running all the time05:07
naliothNeodiuM: well, if those worked on it wtih a gui, then it will work with ubuntu05:08
mcrawfor.05:08
wijnandNeodiuM: how much ram?05:08
jonoflithm, cool05:08
jonois it in ubuntu?05:08
NeodiuMi probably have a spare 256mb stick i can chuck in05:08
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wijnand256 would be fine if you want to run X and don't mind it being a little slow (due to it being a P2)05:09
naliothNeodiuM: which would bring it's total to what?05:09
NeodiuM256 :P05:09
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naliothNeodiuM: yes, you'll be fine05:10
NeodiuMwill build that server tomorro from parts so no specs atm, but may test ubuntu on a partition tonight05:10
wijnandubuntu is great -- it mostly configures everything without you having to interfere05:10
hungryhelp Me05:11
flithmjono, I think it's in: kdeaddons-kfile-plugins05:11
naliothhungry: please ask a question05:11
hungrydirectory.. (ls)05:11
naliothflithm: jono http://freshmeat.net/projects/krename/05:11
hungrysearch . telnet-server..05:12
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hungrywhere .. it is05:12
hungry?05:12
wijnandhungry: i would urge you to use an ssh server instead05:12
hungryssh?05:12
wijnandsecure shell05:12
hungryserver ?05:12
wijnandit's the same thing, but secure05:12
hungryremote access .. and .. ssh use?05:13
wijnandbe more coherent alreadty05:13
flithmhungry, plus you can run X apps when you use SSH, not just command line stuff05:13
wijnandssh is a secure replacement for telnet05:13
bob2hungry: you'd be better off finding a korean place to talk about ubuntu05:13
bob2hungry: perhaps #ubuntu-kr05:13
hungryok05:13
hungrythanks05:13
hungry^^05:13
hungrybob05:13
zythbob2, there is no one there05:14
zythI checked for him05:14
bob2oh well05:14
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yahalom anyone here use epiphany instead of firefox?05:14
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hungrykorean .. is no one here05:14
hungry-_-;;05:14
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hungry#ubuntu-k is not ex..05:15
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jeanremy firefox does not want to open eish05:15
redtechyahalom: nope, but ill try it out now that I heard about it05:15
epHi again, I just installed the NVIDIA propriortary drivers.  Whats the procedure for restarting X without rebooting?05:15
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naliothyahalom: i prefer galeon over epiphany05:16
naliothep: ctrl alt backspace05:16
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jeanrenalioth: where is the lock file for firefox05:16
redtechnalioth: is galeon quick?05:16
epbrb05:16
cmathesonis galeon still being developed?05:16
wijnandnalioth: or just logout and back in really :P05:16
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naliothwow and i went and got a korean url for hungry, and he left05:16
jean-jacqueshello05:16
naliothjeanre: i don't use FF05:16
redtechfirefox isnt so speedy on my lapper.  I need a replacement05:16
naliothredtech: define 'quick'05:17
SleepyEyeHi all.  Are there any preseed install experts around?05:17
jean-jacquesi would like to buy a pcmcia modem sompatible with ubuntu, any help ?05:17
redtechnot taking a minute or 2 to load05:17
zythredtech, dilo? links?05:17
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naliothwijnand: but does loggin out restart x?05:17
gm78redtech, Opera is pretty speedy, but non-free (small ads at top or costs money)05:17
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naliothredtech: if you want quick, zyth has good suggestions dillo or links205:17
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yahalomnalioth, galeon?05:18
redtechthx.  I will check them out05:18
gm78redtech, the ads arent that intrusive though....just google text ads....and the speed makes up for it05:18
naliothyahalom: galeon is a gtk gecko wrapper05:18
oggeHow do I know my ubuntu hoary with xorg and xfce4 uses all of my video memory. And that it is optimized.05:18
yahalomnalioth, what are the pros?05:18
naliothyahalom: native gui is faster and less bloated05:18
gm78ogge, what kind of video card do u have?05:18
yahalomnalioth, based on mozilla?05:18
epThat was easy enough, is ctrl-alt-bkspc the same as ending the session?  Is X stopped and restarted when I logout&end session?05:19
yahalomnalioth, well so is epiphany i guess. apt-get install galeon?05:19
oggegm78, some kind of ATI card. Only 4Mbyte.05:19
oggeCan I found it out?05:19
naliothyahalom: yes05:19
oggecus sometimes the windows are a bit sluggish05:19
naliothyahalom: you might also give kazehakaze a try05:20
oggevery sluggish, when resizeing, and moving.05:20
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maherwhat are the key bindings for the main application menu?05:20
gm78ogge, 4 MB card....I wouldn't worry about it being optimized.....won't do much good, I still get sluggish Windows sometimes on my 128 MB Nvidia card05:20
oggeoh. ok. what system you run?05:20
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oggesoftware..05:20
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gm78ogge, Ubuntu....or do u mean 3D software?05:21
oggeI mean window manager, what linux distro etc.05:21
oggeOk!05:21
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maherif i boot to the ubuntu live cd and don't have a mouse are there some keys i can press so that the application menu appears?05:22
naliothogge: i would imagine that most of us run ubuntu05:22
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gm78Ubuntu 5.04 x86 (Athlon XP 2200+ 1.8 GHz) with Gnome05:22
yahalomnalioth, thanx :)05:22
oggeOkay!05:22
gm78nalioth, lol05:22
naliothmaher: if you run the kubuntu livecd, the windows-key makes the k-menu pop up (not sure in gnome)05:22
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jeanrehmmm05:22
jeanremy firefox profile is locked05:22
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yahalomnalioth, E: Couldn't find package kazehakaze05:23
naliothjeanre: close all instances of firefox05:23
oggeSometimes my usb optical (wired) mouse is very sluggish. Freezes sometimes.05:23
rg58smahii05:23
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oggeAnyone experiences the same?05:23
naliothyahalom: my spelling suX0rs05:23
rg58smasomeone have a good sources.list05:23
jeanrenalioth: there is non05:23
aircoquick completely off-topic quesiton: i've got a user in my chan with an mIRC worm, where do i point him to for disenfection05:23
gm78jeanre, open gnome-system-monitor and make sure all firefox processes are killed05:23
rg58smaplease05:23
epI'm looking to add some packages, for instance "bzflag" but I many not know the exact name.  How can I search for it and get detailed version info before I actually install it?  So far I've been using apt-get to install stuff.05:24
bob2ep: apt-cache search bzfl05:24
gm78ogge, never experienced that. it may be your graphics card though. My brother has a 4 MB Graphics card on Win2000 and its sluggish like that05:24
redtechairco: antivirus dot com05:24
flithmls05:24
yahalomnalioth, so what is it? galeon looks very simialr to epiphany05:24
flithmdoh05:24
oggegm78, Ok.05:24
naliothyahalom: sorry my spelling sux. its in the repos or here http://kazehakase.sourceforge.jp/05:25
rg58smaplease I need a good sources.list05:25
gm78ep, you can also use synaptic, much easier on the eyes than apt-cache search :P05:25
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naliothyahalom: i prefer galeon over epiphany05:25
oggeIve never really understand what sources.list is. How can you define it? And what is synaptic?05:25
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nalioth!source05:25
ubotuWish i knew, nalioth05:25
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bob2rg58sma: the default one is a good one, just use that.05:26
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jeanrenalioth: there is non05:26
rg58smano05:26
naliothjeanre: you checked all your running processes? sometimes FF goes headless05:27
bob2right, you don't know how to configure it, but you think that adding random other repositories is a good idea05:27
jeanreyes I have05:27
bob2you're just going to break apt, you're way better off just using ubuntu packages05:27
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rg58smaplease I need a good sources.list05:27
s_ander/etc/sources.list is a file with URLs to Ubuntu's package repositories. These repositories containts all software distributed by Ubuntu. Synaptic is a tool to make package management more user friendly05:27
DooMRunneRhi05:27
bob2rg58sma: explain what you mean by "good" then.05:27
oggethanx s_ander05:27
gm78ogge, apt is a command line tool to install software. for instance, to install amsn, you would type in apt-get install amsn. Synaptic is just a gui for apt. sources.list lists the places where apt will search for packages05:27
jeanrenalioth: fixed05:27
epapt-cache search package-name did not give me version info, how do i get that?05:28
rg58smagood i havent one what giveme errors05:28
naliothjeanre: great!05:28
rg58smaor timeout05:28
naliothep: apt-cache showpkg <pkgname>05:28
bob2rg58sma: so, run "sudo apt-setup" and use the default05:28
epthanks05:28
gm78ogge, apt/synaptic will download and install the packages for you05:28
naliothor is it apt-cache showinfo <pkgname>05:28
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rg58smaok thanks05:28
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torzhi I've got a question about kppp.05:29
oggeIs there any chance the repositories sometimes contain viruses etc? How can I be sure that these repositories not containt hoax material.05:29
naliothogge: stick with official repos (and virii and linux don't go together)05:30
torzIts pretty random. I managed get kppp to connect to my isp but as soon as I click "continue" i get an error: Exit Status: 105:30
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epi'll try both05:30
gm78ogge, well if they did ubuntu itself would most likely contain viruses, since they are run by the same people and contained on ubuntu's servers....i wouldnt worry too much about it05:31
torzThe remote system is required to authenticate itself.05:31
naliothep the easy way is "apt-cache --help"05:31
torzbut I couldnt find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so.05:31
epdone!05:31
bob2ogge: it's certainly possible untrusted apt repositories can do trojaned05:31
oggeOk!05:31
bob2ogge: note that any package you install has root priveleges to do whatever it wants05:31
oggeyes..05:31
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oggeWhat is a backport?05:31
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bob2a development version of a package compiled for a stable version of ubuntu05:32
bob2ie asking for trouble05:32
gm78ogge, in other words, dont run and add every repository you see on the net. mainly stick with the ubuntu ones....or ones from apt-get.org if you absolutely have to05:32
oggeThanx alot for the answers guys!05:32
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naliothgm78: better just to advise official repos (cuz from there everyone has a differing opinion)05:32
oggeGotta check out the sources.list to see what ive really got there :o05:32
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oni just switched back to windows because i couldn't set up internet connection in ubuntu :( without internet it's really painful to find howtos :( i'm totally clueless. please somebody could you give me one word? where to start searching?05:33
aleksanderHi, how do i start the apache2 server?05:33
oggeon, thats really strange. Did work directly for me.05:34
gm78nalioth : i do for the most part. sometimes u have no choice though, like for packages like transcode. (ever tried compiling that thing, id rather die than try that again. the stupid configure script only checks for half of the dependancies actually needed so compiling it always breaks)05:34
Choubakaon: rwhat kind of an internet connection do you have?05:34
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aleksanderI have installed apache2-prefork-dev05:34
sanitarioaleksander, sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start05:34
bob2aleksander: install the apache2 package05:34
nalioth_wrkngm78: i used a source repo for my transcode05:34
onChoubaka: adsl (ethernet)05:34
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tritiumaleksander, "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start"05:34
Choubakaon: pppoe?05:34
nalioth_wrkny'all be good05:34
onChoubaka: i haven't tried05:34
tritiumaleksander, it should start when you install the package, though05:34
gm78nalioth_wrkn, i just added this mowgli (i think thats the name) and then apt-get install transcode and then disabled the repository, worked good for me05:34
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Choubakaon: I mean, is the ADSL PPP-over-ethernet?05:35
gm78nalioth_wrkn, *mowgli repo i mean05:35
onChoubaka: yes, i think :)05:35
nalioth_wrkngm78: enable / disable is a great strategy05:35
aleksandertritium, localhost are not work05:35
gm78on, u might have an unsupported network card05:35
OverDriv3what is the linux core version of ubuntu 5.04?05:35
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Choubakaor is it just regular ADSL which works without "calling" the ISP?05:35
bob2aleksander: install the apache2 package05:35
bob2yo tritium05:35
tritiumhi bob2!05:35
onChoubaka: no, i must dial-up with username/pwd05:35
ChoubakaOverDriv3: 2.6.1005:35
Choubakaon: then it's pppoe :/05:36
gm78nalioth_wrkn, yep, worked for me. i rip my dvds before i lend them to my brother (whom usually recks them) and then if he does, i can use transcode to shrink it and burn them to a disc05:36
ChoubakaI think05:36
gm78*wrecks05:36
ChoubakaOverDriv3: with ubuntu patches of course05:36
gm78cant spell today05:36
Choubakaon: those are a bit tricky to get working.05:36
OverDriv3chou: thanks!05:36
aleksanderbob2, now?05:36
epyou're lucky i can't spell every day05:36
bob2aleksander: yes05:36
Choubakaon: but there's a tool called "pppoeconf" on the ubuntu install CD05:36
aleksanderbob2, there it works05:36
Choubakaon: I think you need that.05:37
oggewhere is the sources.list /etc/ ?05:37
tritium/etc/apt/sources.list05:37
aleksanderbob2 but have i php now?05:37
oggethank u tri.05:37
aleksanderbob2, i have installed apache2-pre,,,,-dev05:37
rgaminoi'm getting an error when i try to change my resolution using /system/preferences, the error is Xserver does not support the xrandr extension05:37
bob2aleksander: presumably you want libapache2-mod-php4 then05:37
rgaminoany help would be appreciated05:37
OverDriv3bob2: by the way, thanks a lot for the help earlier toay =)05:37
bob2OverDriv3: sort it out?05:38
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onChoubaka: ok, i forgot about pppoe, that is the magic word, i'll find more on pppoeconf with google. thank you05:38
oggeis ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net a official repository?05:38
tritiumogge, no05:38
oggedamn. I got it in my sources.list05:38
andersbrGreetings, ubunty type persons!  I'm having trouble with cd burning.  The recommended technique is to use Nautilus,  right-click on an iso file,  and click "write to disk".  But in the dialog,  under write options,  it won't let me select any write speed but "maximum possible".  The selector is grayed out.05:38
lynxi use that with no problem05:38
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rgaminoi'm getting an error when i try to change my resolution using /system/preferences, the error is Xserver does not support the xrandr extension05:39
Thorrn4hello!! I was wondering, is there a way to check the CPU temperature?05:40
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lynxanyone here knows where can i find quake 3?05:40
CarlFKI have a bunch of PCI modems.  any advice on how to pick the first one to try?05:40
gm78andersbr, install k3b....solves everything :P  oh, and grab cdrdao also05:40
DanielHolmeslynx: amazon.com05:40
tiredbonesI tried to use "apachectl start" for my newly apache2 system. apachectl can not be found. Does apache2 use something diffrenet?05:40
onThorrn4: there's a gnome sysmeter applet, doesn't it show the cpu temp?05:40
andersbrgm78: I'll give that a shot.05:40
lynxDanielHolmes, thanks05:40
tritiumtiredbones, "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start|stop|restart"05:41
DanielHolmeslynx: works great in linux by the way.05:41
stevedThorrn4: you can try sensors on the command line05:41
bob2CarlFK: can you melt them down, extract the precious metals and buy a proper modem? ;)05:41
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rgaminoi'm getting an error when i try to change my resolution using /system/preferences, the error is Xserver does not support the xrandr extension..any ideas05:41
tritiumtiredbones, but it should have started on install)05:41
oggeIs there anyway to show free available ram-memory?05:41
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gm78andersbr, it wont go into ur main menu by default, just launch the command k3b05:41
Thorrn4steved, what do u mean?05:41
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gm78ogge, open the gnome system monitor05:41
aleksanderany one here who has a php msn bot?05:41
tiredbonestritium, thanks05:41
bob2rgamino: presumably you're using the vesa driver05:42
oggegm78. wont start anyone if I type gnome-system-monitor in terminal.05:42
oggeI run xfce.05:42
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stevedThorrn4: open a terminal and type in sensors05:42
lynxDanielHolmes, i have the cd, but how can i install it on linux?05:42
bob2there's no fix aside from using a proper driverm which you presumably can't do05:42
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DanielHolmeslynx: oh sorry....http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/05:42
gm78on, are you talking about gnome-system-monitor for checking cpu temp....i have it open and dont see the temp in there. is there any other way that u know of?05:42
lynx=] 05:43
deviosanyone know if there's an easy way to get http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ working with gaim in ubuntu?05:43
stevedthorrn4: if your motherboard has support it should show you all the temperature details05:43
xxtremenalioth= how good is playing FS games on a PB running ubuntu05:43
DanielHolmeslynx: forgive me.  I'm new here. ;-)05:43
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rgaminobob2:  I am using the fglrx driver05:43
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bob2hah05:43
SwordxlBuenas05:43
bob2ouch05:43
aleksanderhow to start php?05:43
Thorrn4steved, it doesnt do anything...it gives me a BASH error05:43
deviosis this compatible? http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/debian-install/otr-setup.html05:43
adhamhi people05:43
aleksander:d05:43
stevedthorrn4: what does it say ?05:43
tritiumaleksander, always check in /etc/init.d for initscripts05:43
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Thorrn4steved, bash: sensors: command not found05:44
ray_anyone know how to clear the logfile?05:44
stevedthorrn4: ok so its not installed hang on a sec05:44
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rgaminobob2: any ideas???05:44
adhamcould someone help me05:44
lynxDanielHolmes, =] ] 05:44
andersbrray_: Which logfile?05:45
bob2rgamino: that seems astoundingly crap for ati05:45
tritiumdevios, have you tried gaim-encryption instead?05:45
ufzobook_is it possible to reinstall older versions of a programm ? i did an update and some things dont work anymore.05:45
bob2rgamino: what does google say?05:45
bob2ufzobook_: if you're using breezy, please file bugs05:45
adhami need to know how to watch videos on clipland.com05:45
aleksandertritium, it was started...:P05:45
stevedthorrn4: open up synaptic and search for sensors - there should be a package called lm-sensors install that then try again05:45
ray_adham, what do you need help with adham05:45
tritiumaleksander, :)05:45
andersbradham:  what format are the videos in?05:45
rgaminogoogle says ask ubuntu irc's ;)05:45
adhamI dont know im only 1305:45
adhambut i do know they are music videos05:46
ray_get mozilla-vlc-plugin05:46
ufzobook_sure bob2, but it is software wich is not in the portage05:46
bob2rgamino: so, seriously, what does google say about ati's proprietary drivers and randr?05:46
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bob2ufzobook_: this isn't gentoo05:46
ufzobook_ehm, in the sources of horay, sorry ;)05:46
bob2ufzobook_: then you email whoever made the packages05:46
cyphaseyou know what would be interesting? a debate between Linus Torvalds and Bill Gates :)05:46
adhamlol05:46
tritiumdevios, gaim-encryption is already in universe, and might suit your needs05:46
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adhamwho hates windows?05:47
lynxi do05:47
aleksanderis #var/www" the apache document folder?05:47
lynxehaeha05:47
ray_adham, get vlc05:47
adhamok thanx05:47
Thorrn4steved, I apt-get'd the program...will it be able 2 run now?05:47
Thorrn4adham, I do05:47
cyphaseadham, just about everybody here05:47
ray_my parents have windows05:47
rgaminobob2: i haven't found anything yet... still google'ing05:47
cyphaseincluding me05:47
cyphase:)05:47
adhamlol05:47
stevedthorrn4: try it see what it says05:47
bob2cyphase: linus doesn't care about ms, he just hacks the kernel.05:47
adhamim still getting used to linux05:47
gm78ray_ : do u need the win32codecs for vlc (i downloaded and installed them from mplayer's website anyways)05:47
gm78?05:47
wdhcyphase, why would that be interesting?05:47
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deviostritium: unless gaim-encryption can chat with trillian encryption, it doesn't suit my needs05:47
cyphasebob2, yea, i know05:47
honorhello doesanyone know how to burn dvd-video?05:47
lynxso am i adham05:47
cyphasewdh, i just would05:47
cyphase:)05:48
odie5533How do I install a boot manager while preforming a low memory install?05:48
ray_gm78, no it just works for me05:48
aleksandertrituim, are "var/www" the document folder?05:48
adhamiv been a windows user for 9 years05:48
bob2no one seems to care, except mindless fanboys/girls05:48
wdhcyphase, we all know what they both will say :P05:48
cyphaseboth of tem trying to explain why their OS is better05:48
gm78honor, What do u mean by dvd-video? like dvd9 to dvd5 or what?05:48
adhamso linux is kindof hard05:48
cyphaseadham, what do you mean?05:48
wdhcyphase, there is no such thing as a 'better' OS05:48
gm78adham, different is more like it....i find it easier to fix than windows05:48
lynxi dont think it hard =] 05:48
ray_adham, yes it is a tad harder than windows but wellworth it05:48
adhamwell thats true05:48
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cyphasewdh, stop thinking! just watch them go back and forth05:49
cyphase;)05:49
adhamits just that i dont know how to download anything05:49
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tritiumdevios, I'm not sure if it does05:49
lynxits harder cause u are used to windows05:49
adhami know05:49
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adhami just wanted to try something new05:49
cyphaseand not particularly because windows is easier05:49
ray_the thing that i have found with widows is that it is fast as hell when you first install it and then a week later it is so full of shit it barley works05:49
cyphaseadham, good for you05:50
cyphase:)05:50
tritiumadham, it's worth the effort in learning05:50
aleksandertririum, are "var/www" the document folder?05:50
DanielHolmesHey, just wanted to drop in and say thank you to whomever wants to listen.  About a week ago, I used nothing but gentoo and loved it.  But, after lusting after your distro for months (used the live cd a couple of times) I finally made the switch.  In fact, I loved it so much that my development machine has been switched over from a 2 year old gentoo install to a fresh, clean ubuntu.  My users may not appreciate my recent 2 day window of non-existent 05:50
ray_I spend more time cleaning my parents xp system that actually using it05:50
adhamthats what happend to me05:50
wdhray_, why discuss windows in a linux channel?05:50
tritiumaleksander, by default, yes, /var/www/05:50
cyphasewdh, because windows is the direct competitor to linux05:50
adhambecause its something to talk about05:50
aleksandertritium, ok, do you know how a get permissions to it?05:50
cyphasewdh, you think they don't talk about linux at microsoft?05:50
ray_wdh, fuck off05:50
tritiumray_, easy05:51
cyphasewdh = Windows Die Hard05:51
ray_wdh, its just conversation05:51
wdhcyphase, they probably do.. but there is no use in you talking about windows here..05:51
cyphasewdh, why not?05:51
tritiumray_, don't do that again, please05:51
gm78wdh, well since ur the authority of this chat room why dont u kick him?? :-P05:51
tritiumaleksander, use sudo05:51
ray_tritium, didnt think everyone could see that05:51
tritiumray_, it's not appropriate behavior for #ubuntu.  We have a code of conduct.05:52
Thorrn4is it wise to update the kernel? because the last time I did...GRUB ran slowly and programs booted slower; I had to reinstall on older version of the kernel and it made it run normally, like it was before05:52
aleksandertritium, with who command?05:52
wdhgm78, i am not.. i was just the person being annoyed by hearing about windows in the irc-channel of his beloved distro05:52
bob2Thorrn4: you're using breezy?05:52
tritiumaleksander, see this for details: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo05:52
bob2anyway05:52
sproingieuboto, code of conduct?05:52
gm78Thorrn4, thats odd, never noticed that kind of behaviour05:52
OverDriv3this is what the synaptic package manager sais: This package contains the source needed to generate the kernel module. You can05:52
OverDriv3compile it manually or using kernel-package.05:52
OverDriv3How do i use the kernel-package?05:52
r0bbyever notice how high traffic the mailing lists are05:52
r0bbyspecifically -user?05:53
stevedthorrn4: you got those sensors working ?05:53
r0bby:P05:53
sproingiegrmbl ... how do i query the damn bot05:53
Thorrn4bob2, no 5.04...I dont know what is it called05:53
Thorrn4steved, it said: no sensors found :P05:53
gm78wdh, i know that was my point. it isnt ur chat room so it isn't really your place to moderate what everyone talks about....thats my opinion anyways05:53
cyphasewdh, do you care who uses linux and who uses windows? because if you don't, i can understand your position05:53
tritiumOverDriv3, install kernel-package, and then see the docs in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package.  It will involve using make-kpkg with fakeroot.05:53
tiredbonesAfter I stop the server, /etc/init.s/apache2 stop, I can still get display the placeholder page. If the server is down should I still beable to see this page?05:53
bob2cyphase: this doesn't sound very "helping people use ubuntu"-related05:53
bob2try #ubuntu-pfftopic05:53
OverDriv3tritium: i am a windows user that has no idea about command line stuff : /05:53
ray_i had to compile alsa 1.0.9 for my sound to work..... if i update the linux-headers and image will that break my sound?05:54
tritiumOverDriv3, do you really need a custom kernel?05:54
bob2ray_: if it overwrites the .ko for your driver, yes05:54
wdhgm78, well.. it isnt your place to moderate what i am talking about then :P05:54
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stevedthorrn4: try running sensors-detect that should show you what modules need to be installed for the sensors to work05:54
OverDriv3i need it for something called LUFS05:54
radehello everyone05:54
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ray_bob2, can i stop that from happening05:55
wdhcyphase, i really dont care.. i like it when people use linux.. and i dislike windows marketing strategies/monopoly..05:55
tritiumgm78, wdh please stop05:55
radecan anyone help me install a wlan usb adapter in ubuntu 5.04?05:55
wdhcyphase, and thats about it05:55
cyphasehmm..05:55
oggehello. doing the "free -m" in terminal. only got 12mbyte free of 128mbyte! only running gaim and one terminal. isnt this a little bit to much? using ubuntu hoary, xfce4, xorg.05:55
OverDriv3tritium: some kind of file system enhancement05:55
stevedthorrn4: run it with sudo otherwise it won't work05:55
bob2ray_: back it up, restore it after installing the kernel image05:55
tritiumOverDriv3, which?05:55
bob2rade: you need to give a lot more details05:55
bob2ogge: read the -/+ line instead05:55
OverDriv3tritium: http://ftpfs.sourceforge.net/05:55
Thorrn4steved, still didnt work05:56
Thorrn4 :P05:56
ray_bob2, good idea thanks man05:56
stevedthorrn4: what did it say this time ?05:56
oggebob2, it says used 44 .. free 79.05:56
gm78ray_, actually....now that i think about it, the new kernel didn't change the abi (which is why it didn't need new headers) so u might be fine05:56
tritiumOverDriv3, what for?05:56
radealright, it's a cameo wlb 1403, the output from lsusb is "Bus 001 Device 004: ID 03eb:7613 Atmel Corp."05:56
bob2ogge: there you go05:56
oggecool :)05:56
stevedthornn4: if you run sudo sensors-detect05:56
OverDriv3so that i can mount a ftp directory and save directly to it from any program05:56
oggelinux is really freaking resource light.05:56
tritiumOverDriv3, can't gnome-vfs do that?05:56
stevedthorrn4: it should scan your machine and tell you what modules are needed05:57
OverDriv3tritium: i have tried, but i have no idea on how to do that..05:57
tritiumOverDriv3, further, that projects says it's obsoleted by LUFS05:57
ray_ogge, yeah all I have running right now is this chat program and my system monitor and i am using 198 megs.. try using icewm05:57
tiredbonesAfter I stop the server, /etc/init.s/apache2 stop, I can still get the placeholder page. If the server is down should I still beable to see this page?05:57
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tritiumOverDriv3, first, I'd suggest sftp over ftp, anyway.05:57
bob2ray_: presumably 150MB of that is disk cache05:57
OverDriv3tritium: i managed to connect to ftp and so on, but i cannot change files like i want to. And it is the LUFS i am talking about05:57
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bob2tiredbones: so, why don't you see what's answering you then?05:58
bob2tiredbones: sudo netstat -plnt|grep 8005:58
Thorrn4steved, I loaded the sudo sensors-detect and it searched for all of the sensors....but I guess that I dont have any...sudo sensors says: no sensors found!05:58
sproingieis there some simple memory usage app that doesn't count video memory or buffer cache?05:58
dabaRhey, for some reason there is a new kernel image in updates for my Hoary. I dont have any extraneous repos  enabled, but I have main multiverse, universe, and restricted. Is this something that everyone got today?05:58
stevedthorrn4: ok your out of luck then ;)05:58
ray_bob2, yeah i have a gig of ram but ubuntu only sees it as like 850? u know whats up with that?05:58
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bob2sproingie: free -m, the 3 rd line05:58
dabaR2.6.10.34.305:58
bob2ray_: install the -686 kernel05:58
CarlFKbob2 - so I should just keep using my Zyxel 14.4?  (really nice modem, most of the use will be fax, so don't really need the speed)05:58
teferiDoes anyone know when linux-restricted-modules for 2.6.12 will be in breezy?05:58
ray_i got the kernel updates05:58
Thorrn4steved, i guess so05:58
oggeicewm is very resourceheavy+05:59
ogge?05:59
ray_bob2, is that easy05:59
bob2teferi: when 2.6.12 is unscrewed05:59
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oni think i've found a resolution: it's RP-PPPoE. it's a desktop dialer for pppoe adsl connections. am i right? :/ i found it via ubuntuguide.org05:59
ray_bob2, is it an option at the normal install05:59
bob2ray_: yes, if you have a 686 cpu05:59
bob2ray_: no05:59
OverDriv3tritium: can you help me with gnome-vfs?05:59
gm78ogge, nope....icewm is actually really lightweight....also light in features tho05:59
tritiumOverDriv3, can you use sftp?05:59
bob2on: ubuntu includes pppoe tools by default05:59
oggeok cool.05:59
ray_its a p4 so yeah 68605:59
teferibob2: it's just that linux-image has apparently been updated to 2.6.12 now, so I was wondering...05:59
teferibob2: what's wrong with .12?05:59
OverDriv3tritium: what is sftp?05:59
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OverDriv3secure?05:59
tritiumyes05:59
gm78ogge, a cool window manager to try is windowmaker05:59
sproingiebob2: that still counts video memory, no?  thinking of something for newbs to use06:00
bob2teferi: lots of regressions, e.g. breaking udev in some circumstances06:00
teferioh06:00
teferilovely06:00
radebob2: my adapter's a cameo wlb 1403, it's on the list for linux-wlan-ng, which i installed over synaptic, but it's still not working, the output from lsusb is "Bus 001 Device 004: ID 03eb:7613 Atmel Corp."... but when i type in iwconfig, i don#t get anything06:00
oggegm78, ok. is it nice?06:00
onno, enlightenment or xfce is way more cool :)06:00
OverDriv3trit: doesn't matter to me06:00
teferii'll stick with .10, i guess06:00
teferibob2: are you kernel-team?06:00
bob2sproingie: "video memory"? you mean memory mapped out to the vide card, or memory used by X?06:00
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bob2teferi: no06:00
tritiumOverDriv3, I'd try: Places->Connect to Server06:00
sproingiebob2: yes, that06:00
OverDriv3trit: done that06:00
OverDriv3trit: i am connected06:00
teferiokay, never mind, that other question can wait06:00
bob2rade: no need to /msg me06:00
sproingiebob2: er, the memory mapped out to the vid card06:00
oggeI think xfce4 is quite nice.06:00
tritiumOverDriv3, then what's the problem?06:00
OverDriv3trit: but i can't get apps to write to that directory06:00
ray_i love how easy it was to set up my video card using ubuntu06:00
gm78ogge, sort of....it takes getting used to....its free so u may as well go ahead and download it :P06:00
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radebob2, sorry, i thought you missed my message06:00
OverDriv3trit: it simply doesnt work.06:00
dabaRI guess what I am asking is: Is it normal to have a kernel image upgrade available like that? Just by sudo apt-get upgrade.06:01
bob2rade: iwconfig doesn't work with linux-wlan-ng drivers06:01
oggeis there anyway to view free available videocard memory?06:01
bob2rade: you need wlanctl or so06:01
bob2I forget06:01
teferisecond question: there's a known bug in the madwifi driver regarding WPA not working, upstream is totally mum on it, is anyone in ubuntu working on it?06:01
ray_dabaR, Yeah i got the same update completely  normnal06:01
tritiumdabaR, yes, the update-manager looks for security updates06:01
radebob2, so what do you suggest i do?06:01
bob2rade: /usr/share/doc/linux-wlan-ng/README or so tells you the 3 commands or so to run to get a wlan-ng usb device working06:01
OverDriv3trit: any idea?06:01
dabaROk, thank you very much.06:01
bob2teferi: I'd try looking in bugzilla06:02
radebob2: thanks, i'll check right now06:02
bob2teferi: or the ubuntu-kernel list archives06:02
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halbalbalhi06:02
teferibob2: yeah, i was going to head there, but figured i'd ask while i'm here06:02
teferiokay, thanks anyway06:02
sproingiei suppose unless psutils and company can detect memory-mapped I/O as opposed to actual system ram usage, the memory usage question is still a bit up in the air06:02
bob2teferi: afaik none of the kernel team are here06:02
keffoquestion, im going to install windows and make a "dual-boot" with grub.. i copied my old config, so after i installed windows.. shall i boot up with a live-cd for example and mount /boot and put the grub there?06:02
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bob2no one I recognise, anyway06:02
sproingiegiven that so many onboard vid cards actually use system ram06:02
halbalbali upgraded my kernel to 2.6.10-34-3 and now I can't boot. I get "Kernel panic -not syncing: VFS: unable to open root device"06:03
ray_what happened to  the linux downloads on Americas Army?06:03
OverDriv3trit: it usually ends at that point.... No one seems to be willing to help me with this. bah!06:03
gm78ogge, most cheap on board video cards don't have their own RAM06:03
gm78ray_, they should still be there06:03
ray_gm78, nope06:03
oggegm78. aight.06:03
ray_gm78, havent been for days06:04
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tiredbonesbob2, the reply from netstat -plnt | grep 80 showed nothing listening. So why did the page pop-up/06:04
dabaRwindows has to be first partition, right?06:04
bob2tiredbones: perhaps your browser is crap and caching it06:04
oggeIs there any way, if so, how do I put my ubuntu system in some kind of text-based mode only. With all the functions still available.06:04
sproingiedabaR: it doesn't care06:04
oggeBut no GUI.06:04
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bob2ogge: you'd need to be more specific about what "all the functions still available" means06:04
bob2ogge: you can certainly stop X starting06:04
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gm78ray_, hmmmm, ur right....thats bright of em "we dont have the new version available yet so we'll just pull down the old one"06:05
halbalbalhi again, i upgraded my kernel to 2.6.10-34-3 and now I can't boot. I get "Kernel panic -not syncing: VFS: unable to open root device"06:05
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oggebob2, hrm. If I want to close down the GUI.06:05
dabaRhalbalbal:  nice,...06:05
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tritiumOverDriv3, I took a look at it myself.  I can't save over gnome-vfs either.  Can you live with drag-n-drop?  Save changes locally, and copy them over with nautilus.06:05
dabaRtritium: is that gonna happen to me now??:)06:05
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tritiumdabaR, when?06:05
halbalbaldabaR: not really06:05
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ray_gm78, I ended up  getting it from aafiles but u think they are coming out with a new version and it will be back up soon06:05
tritiumwhat?06:05
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dabaRwhen I reboot.06:05
zenlunatichow do you relaunch nautilus desktop?06:06
bob2RichiH: that guy's spamming06:06
radebob2: i don't have a README file, i have a README.Debian, but for configuring usb devices it says "Currently this is not well integrated. See the section starting "FOR USB06:06
radeUSERS" at the end of the README file."06:06
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ray_zenlunatic, log out lol...... i do it the cheesy way06:06
gm78ray_, it says right on their site they are. they released version 2.4 for windows, linux and mac clients are coming soon06:06
RichiHbob2: that's what i came to see, yah06:06
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bob2RichiH: hah06:06
RichiHwhy do people do that :/06:06
gm78ray_, aafiles....where is that?06:06
zenlunaticray_: id rather not log out06:06
dabaRhalbalbal: I hope not.06:06
zenlunaticray_: i have a lot of stuff going here06:06
bob2RichiH: so they get more people in their channel omg lolz!06:07
murphyHi06:07
tritiumOverDriv3, okay, I need to get going.06:07
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skel_hello06:07
ray_gm78, ahhh thanks.......... if you look under the windows links there is aafiles06:07
OverDriv3trit: thanks for your help anyway!06:07
ray_if you  go there u can get the old version06:07
skel_i having a issue with my gonme06:07
bob2aleksander: unless you're asking for my address to send bags of money to, please don't /msg me06:07
RichiHbob2: a whopping two, as we speak06:07
tritiumOverDriv3, sure.  See my last message.  That's the best you can do, I think.06:07
murphyKind of a newb question here, but I am trying to permanently mount a drive between both linux and windows06:07
bob2RichiH: hah06:07
skel_I can add appz to the gnome menu but i can not open them when i click them they just sit there and nothign starts06:07
tritiumbob2, see you later.  Just a few more weeks, and I'll be back online more often.06:08
aleksanderbob2, why not?06:08
ray_murphy, look at the ubuntu page06:08
bob2tritium: ah, cool, adios06:08
bob2tritium: good luck :)06:08
tritiumbob2, thanks again :)06:08
bob2rade: do you have linux-wlan-ng-doc installed?06:08
murphyit's an NTFS data drive, and there is no OS on it, just data.06:08
ray_skel_, what app did you  try/06:08
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skel_limire06:08
murphythe Ubuntu page?06:08
OverDriv3trit: that is the thing : i would very much like to avoid drag and drop06:08
skel_beep media player06:08
OverDriv3trit is gone.. ah..06:08
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skel_they wont start recenty installed them...06:08
gm78ray_, alright, thx too...never knew that06:08
radebob2: sorry, i should have guessed, just a sec06:08
ray_skel_, wouldnt work for me either...but every other app does06:08
oggeI got win2k installed on the first partition. How do I reach the partition?06:08
aleksanderbob2, do you know how I can get permissions to var/www ???06:08
bob2rade: (I had to look that up myself)06:08
skel_hmmmm06:08
skel_werid06:08
skel_so how do i start it06:09
skel_in termial?06:09
ray_skel_, use the file browser06:09
aleksandernorwegian people here?06:09
ray_skel_,  if you download the rpm and alien it...that version runs in the panel06:09
murphyI have acutally mounted it, but I can't figure out how to log in to the root user through the gui so I can change the permissions!?!06:09
ray_skel_, but that version is slower and buggy06:10
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bob2murphy: you don't change permissions like that06:10
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lynxmurphy, i have the same problem06:10
skel_nah i will amke a laucher...06:10
bob2murphy: you need to mount it with the option umask=00206:10
skel_or try to06:10
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radebob2: i installed linux-wlan-ng- doc but still no README06:10
murphydo I have to do it through the terminal?06:10
murphyhmm06:10
bob2murphy: however you mounted it to begin with06:10
ray_skel_, i will try right now and let youknow if i can do  it06:10
bob2rade: ok, I don't know where it is then06:10
skel_k06:10
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oggethis channel owns.06:11
oggereally good people! :)06:11
zenlunaticanyone know how to kill/relaunch nautilus?06:11
murphyok, and then if it's in the fstab, how come it doesn't automatically mount on startup?06:11
aleksanderHow do i get permissions to var/www???06:11
sanitariozenlunatic, killall -HUP nautilus06:11
lynxbob2, where i put "umask=002" in mi fstab?06:11
bob2rade: what I had to do was: sudo modprobe prism2_usb prism2_doreset=1, sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable,  sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_autojoin ssid="foo" authtype=opensystem06:11
lynx*my06:12
bob2lynx: in the options colume06:12
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bob2lynx: e.g. change defaults to defaults,umask=00206:12
lynxok, ill try06:12
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bob2rade: you probably don't need to do the module line06:12
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bob2aleksander: just put the files in ~/public_html/, dude06:12
ray_anyone use rkhunter.... should i?06:12
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murphyhey linx, if you get it to work, could you post up your fstab entry?06:12
aleksanderbob2, it's not an oublic_html filder here06:13
bob2murphy: if you want help, paste your /etc/fstab to #flood06:13
bob2aleksander: make it06:13
radebob2: yea, i tried that, but after i put in "sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable" i get  "wlanctl-ng: No such device"06:13
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murphywhat does that do bob2?06:13
ray_What did you guys use for an os before Ubuntu?06:13
bob2rade: guess you need to load the driver manually then06:13
bob2murphy: let us see it so we can see what's wrong06:13
aleksanderbob2, where?06:13
bob2ray_: Debian (which I still do use)06:13
radebob2: can you tell me how?06:13
Quest-MasterHow do I upgrade my kernel?06:14
bob2rade: I don't know what driver you need06:14
bassMonkeyhi, has anyone here installed mail-notification from scratch? i need the ssl feature so i'm currently trying my best... I get the following when trying to configure "No package "gconf-2.0' found", so what do i need to install?06:14
lynxbob2, my fstab is like that: /dev/hda1       /mnt/shadow     ntfs        auto,ro,users  0  0    where do i put that?06:14
Choubakaray_: Same as bob206:14
ray_bob2, I love debian but I just got a new computer and Ubuntu works and deb doesnt :(06:14
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bob2ray_: yeah, X in Debian is a little outdated06:14
radebob2: alright, i'm at a loss here, because i've been searching all day, do you know of any good howtos or readmes that might help me?06:15
bob2bassMonkey: I wouldn't bother compiling it06:15
bob2rade: no06:15
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ray_bob2, yup ..... xorg works really nice06:15
bob2rade: searching for your chipset name + the word linux on google will eventually find you the module, tho06:15
bassMonkeybob2: well, have you got any other suggestions?06:15
murphywow, sorry i'm a little confused, do I just type #flood /etc/fstab in my root terminal?06:15
oggeall the ubuntu swedes, go to #ubuntu.se06:15
bob2bassMonkey: use the version that's in ubuntu already?06:15
bassMonkeybob2: ssl isn't included in that one...06:16
aleksanderbob2, where?06:16
bassMonkeybob2: so it can't access my mailbox =/06:16
radebob2: the manufacturer doesn't have any drivers for linux available, is that what you mean? also, how can i find out what my chipset is?06:16
lynxbob2, /dev/hda5       /mnt/lynx     ntfs        auto,ro,users,umask=002  0  0   is that ok?06:16
bob2aleksander: where what?06:16
bob2rade: ignore the manufacturer, even if they made drivers they would be useless06:16
bob2rade: use lsusb06:16
abelikohi any body could helpme with ndiswrapper???06:16
aleksanderbob2, make public_html folder06:16
bob2lynx: yes06:16
lynxok, ty06:16
bob2aleksander: in your home directory06:16
bob2bassMonkey: read it's package description06:17
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aleksanderbob2, then i must change the config file?06:17
bob2aleksander: no06:17
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aleksanderbob2, not?06:17
aleksanderbob2, can i just make it, and then use with http://loaclhost ?06:18
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bob2aleksander: nope06:18
bob2aleksander: then you access it as http://localhost/~username/06:18
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radebob2: i did lsusb, it gave me Bus 001 Device 004: ID 03eb:7613 Atmel Corp., but it's listed under compatible chipsets for linux-wlan-ng.. what i also find confusing is that lsusb says amtel, but my adapter (cameo 1403) is also listed... either way, shouldn#t it work?06:18
bob2rade: you need to load some atmel driver06:19
bob2which may or may not work06:19
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bob2I just returned my atmel usb adapter because it was so flakey06:19
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GameJunkyis there a way to test a tar archive like you can with Rar? i've made about 10 backup cd's .. and i've put all the files in a rar archive then burned the archive to cd.. when i test the archive i get errors all the time. i dont know if it's Rar's fault, but i'd like to test tar out if i can test the archives after i burn them06:19
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radebob2: did you have to rebuild your kernel to get your amtel adapter to work?06:20
bob2rade: don't think so06:20
bob2rade: try "sudo modprobe atmel"06:20
bob2I think I tried it before linux-restricted-modules existed06:20
torananyone have the 88x31 ubuntu website button? none of the images seem to be present on the websitebutton wiki page06:20
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bassMonkeybob2: "I had to disable SSL because of a license issue. Hopefully, this will be solve soon."06:20
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radebob2: ok, it didn't give me an error message, how do i load it?06:21
bassMonkeybob2: SSL/TLS support (disabled, see README.Debian)06:21
bob2bassMonkey: so, get the source package, edit debian/rules, rebuild06:21
bob2rade: read the end of dmesg06:21
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murphyok, thanks bob2, now it mount automatically, but I can't access the data, how do I repair the permissions?06:21
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bob2murphy: I don't see your /etc/fstab in #flood06:22
GameJunkycan anyone answer my question?06:22
radebob2: it says "prism2usb_init: prism2_usb.o: 0.2.1-pre25 Loaded06:22
radeprism2usb_init: dev_info is: prism2_usb06:22
radeusbcore: registered new driver prism2_usb06:22
radeusb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 306:22
radeusb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4", is that good?06:22
ray_GameJunky, what was it?06:22
GameJunkyis there a way to test a tar archive like you can with Rar? i've made about 10 backup cd's .. and i've put all the files in a rar archive then burned the archive to cd.. when i test the archive i get errors all the time. i dont know if it's Rar's fault, but i'd like to test tar out if i can test the archives after i burn them06:22
murphyoh sorry06:22
bob2GameJunky: no need to repeat06:22
bassMonkeyi'm trying to build it, but I can't because "No package 'gconf-2.0' found"06:22
bob2GameJunky: use the md5sum command06:22
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GameJunkybob, ray asked :_06:23
ray_GameJunky, md5sum06:23
GameJunky:)06:23
bob2bassMonkey: so, run 'sudo apt-get build-dep mail-notification'06:23
bob2ray_ can scroll up then06:23
GameJunkylol06:23
GameJunkyok i'll try md5sum06:23
xxtremegm7806:23
GameJunkyit would suck if i burned all these backup cd's then removed the originals and the cd's didn't work06:23
GameJunkyi think i would give up on computers :-/06:23
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bob2murphy: as I said, umask=002, not umask=006:24
ray_unsing tar they shouldnt be corrupt06:24
murphyit should be 0 0 2, or do the spaces matter,  it's hda5 i'm trying to mount06:24
bob2what I said is correct, just copy it06:25
sanitariomurphy, the spaces do matter06:25
bassMonkeybob2: thank you! Didn't know it could be that simple... =)06:25
sanitariomurphy, remove them06:25
Quest-MasterHow do I upgrade my kernel?06:25
GameJunkywell thank you for the help, i'll see yall around06:25
bob2Quest-Master: you generally leave it alone06:25
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murphyok, so now how do I remount?06:25
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FlickieHi06:25
ray_Quest-Master, why do youwant to?06:25
xxtremebob2= is there any special commands i need to install a game in ubuntu. the file is linux.run06:26
Quest-Masterbob2: It apparently wasn't upgraded when I moved from Warty to Hoary, so.. yeah, I need to06:26
topyliQuest-Master: the question is "why"06:26
Flickieanyone know if buntu supports HT technology?06:26
bob2xxtreme: read the instructions.  if it doesn't have any, ask the authors.06:26
Quest-Mastertopyli: yes, and I have answered it :)06:26
topyliyes06:26
bob2Flickie: yes, but it's not that useful06:26
topyli:)06:26
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ray_xxtreme, just chang the permissions and run it06:26
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Flickiebob2: how do i enable it?06:26
bob2Quest-Master: so, install ubuntu-desktop06:26
xxtremebob2 ok06:26
bob2Flickie: install a -smp kernel06:26
xxtremeray=thanks06:26
Flickiebob2: cheers :)06:26
bob2Flickie: e.g. install linux-686-smp06:26
xliubut install ubuntu-desktop will install apmd,06:27
murphyDo I have to unmount the drive now?06:27
Flickiebob2: cheers :D06:27
odie5533Whats the difference between backports and... main ports?06:27
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bob2murphy: yes06:27
oggeWhy do I have to do the "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade". What does these commands search for, and what does these install?06:27
bob2odie5533: backports are dodge06:27
murphyis it jsust : unmount ........?06:28
odie5533bob2: dodgey?06:28
bob2ogge: man apt-get06:28
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bob2odie5533: indeed06:28
Quest-Masterbob2: I don't see a 2.6.10-5-686 in there06:28
radebob2: the last line from dmesg was "usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4", is that ok? what should i do now? iwconfig still doesn't see the adapter06:28
odie5533bob2: so I shouldn't use them?06:28
bob2rade: no idea, you need to go find what driver it uses06:28
bob2odie5533: correct06:28
bob2unless you know how to fix it when it breaks06:28
bob2in which case you'd have better options than them anyway06:28
OverDriv3i am trying to install LUFS now, and it tells me that "In order to build LUFS you need to have the running kernel's headers installed". It says "Check whether /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include is pointing to the running kernel's include dir". I run that command and is told the directory isnt existing - which it isnt. What do i do?06:28
odie5533which I certainly don't :D06:28
bob2OverDriv3: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)06:29
odie5533bob2: why would anyone use them then?06:29
bob2but you're going to a huge amount of effort to work around a process problem06:29
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Flickiebob2: where do i get this kernal?06:29
gverigHi! I am having problems with nvidia driver. It loads and then it says that it was unable to load nvidia kernel module. Any idea? kernel-nvidia-common is installed and there is an nvidia file in the modprobe.d06:29
bob2odie5533: some people have a desire to run the latest versions of things, but not the skill to use the development version of ubuntu06:29
slyerm................06:30
bob2gverig: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:30
slyi just killed all my desktop icons n stuff, i assume running nautilus will fix it ? =\06:30
bob2probably06:30
odie5533bob2: I want the latest stuff! but I don't have any skill, so what would you suggest? Not backports right?06:30
bob2Flickie: install that package...06:30
gverigbob2: thanks06:30
yuachthello... sometimes im just not able to login to msn even though msn works for everyone else. usually when the internet has been down for a short time (problems with router). i've tried both amsn and gaim... when using gaim i just get to handshaking then it stops... what should i do? i've tried rebooting06:30
Flickiebob2: thanks06:30
bob2odie5533: if you care that much, use gentoo or something06:30
odie5533:O suggesting a different distro lol06:31
bob2yuacht: how do you connect to the internet?06:31
OverDriv3bob2: thanks again, i'll get back to you if anything goes wrong =)06:31
bob2odie5533: no, I'm more suggesting just realising that you can live with software that's a whole 4 months old06:31
ray_gentoo is confusing to install06:31
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bob2you = general you, not you in particular06:31
odie5533bob2: by dev version of ubuntu, you mean breezy right?06:31
bob2yes06:32
Quest-Masterbob2: So.. the problem is that I have the 4 version of 2.6.10 and I need 5, as it is supposed to be in Hoary, but it was mysteriously not upgraded06:32
bob2Quest-Master: ok!06:32
bob2Quest-Master: if you really want to debug it, look at what apt says when you try to install it06:32
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OverDriv3i get this error when i run the ./configure command:06:33
OverDriv3sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)06:33
OverDriv3eh..06:34
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OverDriv3configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH06:34
OverDriv3that is the message06:34
shawnhgood morning06:34
murphyok, so I remounted, but I still don't have permissions from the GUI06:34
bob2OverDriv3: sudo aptitude install build-essential06:34
ray_apt-get instal gcc g++06:34
bob2murphy: so, paste the output of "mount" to #flood06:34
bob2rade: that won't work either06:34
ray_OverDriv3, apt-get instal gcc g++06:34
bob2OverDriv3: but bear in mind how much effort this is for such little gain06:34
murphyok, does it print the output in the terminal?06:34
bob2murphy: indeed...06:35
shawnh okay then just do that06:35
shawnhokay then just do that06:35
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OverDriv3bob2: i really need it! It is crucial for my migration to linux. i am totally tired of minimizing and drag and drop eberytime i change a file06:36
murphyBob2: there was no output!06:36
radebob2: what won't work either?06:36
bob2OverDriv3: why are you doing all your development remotely?06:36
bob2murphy: yes there was06:37
bob2OverDriv3: run apache on your local machine and test changes there06:37
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bob2rade: er, to ray, not you06:37
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ray_bob2, I would be pulling my hair out if I were you....06:37
OverDriv3bob2: i usually creates the main stuff local, and then creates preview sites for my clients.06:37
ray_WHY TO ME06:37
lynxanyone here knows where i can find traydock plugin for amsn?06:37
slylynx.... should already come as standard ?06:38
bob2OverDriv3: that's awesome, but editing live stuff seems kinda weird06:38
slydid when i installed from spt-get06:38
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mindspinbob2 except you have a cool cms06:38
OverDriv3bob2: well, i have gotten used to it in dreamweaver06:38
OverDriv3and the live stuff are preview sites06:38
bob2yes, I know06:38
lynxsly did u have to change any configuration?06:39
bob2and I'm used to eating babies for dinner06:39
lynxmine didnt come with the plugin06:39
bob2we all need to make adjustments!06:39
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ray_i love babies06:39
slynope just select 2 things under the tools option06:39
slyminimize when hit close button ..... and the dicking part06:39
lynxwhat?06:39
slyto kde/gnome06:39
lynxok06:39
bob2murphy: that's not what I said06:39
bob2murphy: paste the output of the command "mount"06:39
slythe gnome dock kinda kept crashing amsn for me06:40
CarlFKbob2 - found an isa/rockwell modem - rockwell is a real com port, right?06:40
slybut the freedesktop option works the same and no crashs *touch wood*06:40
bob2CarlFK: I don't know06:40
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bob2if it's isa, it's very likely to not be a winmodem, tho06:40
ray_all you guys really need to do is read the Ubuntu page06:40
mindspin;-)06:40
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ray_silence06:42
bob2until you broke it!06:42
ray_oops06:42
mindspinthey're all off reading06:43
ray_GOOD!06:43
lynxsly, thank u06:43
lynx=] 06:43
bob2the docs need a lot of tidying before I'd be comfortable pointing people there to begin with06:44
sly=)06:44
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mindspinbut its not too much to get an general overview first06:44
ray_i set upmy whole system just by reading the ubuntu website...and there was alot of stuff that didnt work at first06:44
bob2murphy: so, "sudo umount /otherdrive ; sudo mount /otherdrive"06:44
bob2murphy: so, when people told you to do that before, you didn't tell them that unmounting failed06:46
bob2which is the crucial clue to solving your problem06:46
bob2kill everything accessing that disk and drive again06:46
murphywell, I think unmounting failed, because after I executed the unmount command, my GUI just showed an empty directory at /otherdrive06:47
murphyI mean, I don't think it failed06:47
bob2so06:47
bob2kill that window06:47
oggeHow can i watch processes running?06:48
sqrtDoes someone in here have a link to a guide for partitioning and dualbooting a windows xp so that it can run also linux?06:48
bob2ogge: depends what you mean06:48
oggeprocesses in ram06:48
bob2sqrt: install ubuntu.  enjoy!06:48
bob2ogge: still too vague06:48
sqrtbob2: I'd like to dual boot, though.06:48
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bob2ogge: do you mean "watch what syscalls they make" or "watch how much cpu they use" or ...06:48
murphyWas that for me bob2? or someone else?06:49
oggeprocesses running, like CTRL + ALT + DEL in WIN XP.06:49
bob2sqrt: yes, ubuntu will install and configure a bootloader capable of booting either06:49
mindspinps aux06:49
bob2sqrt: it will optionally let you resize existing windows partitions06:49
oggebob2, both of em =)06:49
bob2ogge: maybe "top"06:49
bob2ogge: strace is you want to watch syscalls06:49
sqrtreally? :O06:49
oggebob2. thanks alot.06:49
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yuachtbob2, through a local net with a router06:49
bob2most things are easy if you define exactly what you want06:50
sqrtbob2: so my stuff on the windows part won't be smashed?06:50
bob2murphy: yes...06:50
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bob2sqrt: correct (unless the resizer is buggy, but presumably you have backups, etc, etc)06:50
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magnusciao tutti me ne vado06:50
murphydo I wan't do delete the directory /otherdrive?06:51
aimazogge: if you use gnome there is gnome-system-monitor too which is very similar to the win xp ctrl+alt+del thing06:51
bob2well, you're living on borrowed time, whatever yo udo06:51
sqrttrue.06:51
bob2murphy: that sentence is unparsable, but "no, you don't want to deleted that directory"06:51
OverDriv3how come i only get the help schreen of a command when i try to run it?06:51
OverDriv3here is the command06:51
OverDriv3mount -t lufs none /mnt/ftp -n -o \06:51
OverDriv3  nosuid,fs=ftpfs,host=ftp.example.com, \ username=jzawodn,password=mypassword,ftpactive06:51
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murphyok, so my terminal is closed06:51
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murphysorry I'm so noobish06:52
murphythanks a ton bob206:52
sobersabrehi. how can i tune splashy ?06:52
OverDriv3anyone?06:52
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bob2OverDriv3: when asking things like that, it's a lot easier if you paste the entire output, includign your command to #flood06:53
yuachtbob2, through a local net with a router06:53
OverDriv3what sort of channel is that?06:53
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bob2a channel for pasting things...06:53
bob2yuacht: sounds like your router is being crap06:53
OverDriv3bob2: pasting things?06:54
OverDriv3what sort of things?06:54
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mindspinoutput of commands06:54
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bob2like the thing I just asked you to paste06:54
bob2but now I'm going to sleep06:54
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murphybye bob206:55
bob2OverDriv3: you're still not doing what I said06:55
bob2which makes it incredibly frustrating to try to help you06:55
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bob2when someone says "it's a lot easier if you paste the entire output, includign your command to #flood", what they mean is "please paste the entire output, including things you seem to think don't matter, to #flood"06:56
OverDriv3bob2: what did you say?06:56
AlekHow do I install phpmyadmin ????06:56
OverDriv3hey, i have no idea what do do. It sound very strange to just paste it in there. Are there some magic guy ho knows my question?06:56
bob2jesus dude06:57
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bob2it's so we can bloody see what the problem is06:57
murphyanyone else know how to change the permissions on a mounted drive?06:57
bob2since you just keep paraphrasing it06:57
AlekAny one here who have installed mysql ?06:57
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bob2which is useless06:57
OverDriv3i thought people used to be friendly to noobs... sorry, man!06:57
bob2it's hard to be friendly when they continue to ignore advice06:57
scarlettechoCan anyone tell me how to get install Azureus?06:57
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mindspinbob2 is very polite and friendly06:57
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bob2forcing you to give me information so I can help you is more painfule for me than you06:57
OverDriv3i started writing commands an hour or two ago, i am not familiar at all with how linux works and how to use it06:58
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bob2indeed06:58
bob2which is why you need to listen to people who try to help you06:58
bob2when I say  "it's a lot easier if you paste the entire output, includign your command to #flood", you need to do so06:58
bob2or say "I'm sorry, I don't know what that means"06:58
chillywillyis ubuntu a good server OS?06:58
Alekcan any one help me with install phpmyadmin?06:58
bob2yes06:58
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chillywilly:P06:58
bob2Alek: dude, use some initiative.  did you try installing the package of that name?06:59
DeCaoSI have ubuntu 4.10, and I installed ipop3 but during some minutes the service get down. :( I don't know why?? Can Anybody help me ? :$06:59
OverDriv3i run a community myself, a support forum for Mambo Open Source, and are very familiar with the problem that noobs don't give enough info on their questions. But i have no idea what information you need! And when you say the entire output, i am not even shure what that is!06:59
MondoshawanHi all i have a little strange problem with ubuntu can me somebody help who has expirience with enlightenment?06:59
bob2OverDriv3: dude06:59
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bob2OverDriv3: you typed that mount command into your terminal07:00
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bob2OverDriv3: now show us a) exactly what you typed, including your prompt, and b) the entire output of the command07:00
bob2no snipping, no "help output", the entire text07:00
Alekbob2, yeah i tried07:00
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xliumv and cp will overwrite the destination files withour asking, so how to prevent it?07:00
mindspinthat means everything you see after hitting enter07:00
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Choubakaxliu: mv -i07:00
Choubakaor cp -i07:00
bob2Alek: oh, so it worked?07:01
OverDriv3this is useless..07:01
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bob2Alek: or did you forget to tell us the error?07:01
bob2wtf07:01
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bob2someone please advise me how I could explain thigns more clearly to "overdrive"07:01
DeCaoSWhere is uw-imap in ubuntu 4.10 ?07:01
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pimje suis franais07:01
sanitariobob2, I don't think you could07:01
mindspinno way bob, he-#s lost07:01
bob2DeCaoS: just use dovecot07:01
mindspinmaybe tomorrow07:01
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DeCaoS:)07:02
mindspininformation overkill07:02
Nikopol_awaybob2: I'll help Alek07:02
xliuthanks Choubaka07:02
scarlettechoWould anyone here know how to install Azureus?07:02
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Choubakaxliu: you can use alias too07:02
xliualias?07:02
xliuthen how to ?07:02
Choubakaxliu: add "alias mv='mv -i'" to some startup scripts.07:02
xliuChoubaka, so which startup files? bash.bashrc?07:03
Choubakathat makes it ask everytime if you want that.07:03
mindspinbut it can hurt if you on a different machine07:03
Choubakaxliu: ~/.bash_profile I think. or ~/.bashrc07:03
DeCaoSbob2: dovecot authenticate by paswd?07:03
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lao_vhiya..can anyone please help me in setting up postfix for my domain www.vmhost.co.uk???07:04
mindspinI could give you a good manual but its for debian07:04
lao_vmindspin: sure07:05
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mindspinhttp://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/07:05
lao_vthanks mindspin07:05
mindspinbut be careful with blanks in configuring courierauth07:06
aimazscarlettecho, http://ubuntuguide.org/#azureus07:06
mindspinits a pain07:06
mindspinsometimes07:06
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scarlettechoaimaz, I did try that yesterday and it installed without a core component?07:06
sanitarioDeCaoS, yes, you can use /etc/passwd with dovecot (if that is what you are indeed asking)07:06
aimazscarlettecho, java did or azureus did?07:06
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murphyuuhg, Is there any way to actually log into the root user??07:07
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scarlettechoaimaz, Azureus did.  It wants to install update, then asked to restart, which I did but then still said it needed to update.07:07
mindspinlao_v if you need help try #postfix07:07
pipemurphy: There is the root console in the menu07:07
mindspinthe guy who wrote that manual is there sometimes ;-)07:07
DeCaoSsanitario: thanks07:07
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sanitariomurphy, you could run sudo -s07:08
oggeHow can I browse my win2k partition? Want some music :)07:08
aimazscarlettecho, are you sure it was updatng the same thing07:08
sanitariomurphy, or sudo su -07:08
aimazscarlettecho, sometimes one update depends on another07:08
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murphyhmm, Yeah, I want to change some permissions and I don't know the code to do that, so I wanted to do it through the GUI07:09
scarlettechoaimaz, no, I can't be sure.  and i removed Azureus.  so, i should re-install from the ubuntuguide.org site?07:09
lynxmurphy07:09
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tonskuhello world07:10
murphyhi lynx07:10
lynxcan i see ur fstab configuration?07:10
pipehello tonsku07:10
murphyyeah, one sec07:10
sanitarioogge, at first you need to mount your w2k partition07:10
lao_vthanks mindspin..sorry i got busy reading the link u gave :-)07:10
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mindspinno prob07:10
lao_vi'm gonna get a serious headache very soon!07:10
mindspinit works fine for me07:10
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mindspinand is probably what you want07:11
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lao_vr u using it as localhost or for a tld?07:11
murphylynx, look in #flood07:11
oggesanitario. ok. and how do I mount?07:11
mindspintld07:11
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sanitarioogge, something like sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/w2k -t ntfs -o user,uid=1000,gid=100007:11
mindspinwith about 80 users07:11
aimazscarlettecho, if you follow those instrcutions then it should install fine, it sounds like it was installed before ok, it just needed some updates specific to azureus, which it installs itself07:11
lao_vmindspin: cool..i know who to ask if i get stuck :-)07:11
mindspinsmtp authentication is much cooler than popbefore smtp07:11
sanitarioogge, that is if you run ntfs and your w2k partition is the primary master, first partition07:12
mindspinyep07:12
scarlettechoaimaz, thanks. will try again.  i appreciate your help.07:12
aimazscarlettecho, also try running azureus from the command line, perhaps when the update is downloaded it cannot be installed because of permission problems or something07:12
murphyso, no one know how to log into the root user from the GUI?07:12
oggesanitario. thanx.07:12
sanitarioogge, and your userid is 100007:12
aimazif that's the case come here again and let these folks know the error07:12
lao_vmindspin: i would be happy at this point if i can get it to send something07:12
scarlettechoaimaz, will do. ty07:12
lynxmurphy, put umask=022 in ur fstab07:12
oggeuserid is 1000, how do I know my userid07:12
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murphyok07:12
sanitarioogge, if you're the only user on the machine, it should be 100007:13
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lynxlook mine07:13
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sanitarioogge, you can check by running the command: id07:13
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oggesanitario. ok, seems like the userid is 100007:14
=== devios never knew of the id command - neat.
oggeand gid = 100007:14
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oggemount point media/w2k doesnt exist.07:15
murphyLynx, what did that do for me?07:15
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oggeI got my music on C:/media/musik at my win2k partition.07:15
murphyAAAAAA!07:15
AlekAny here who have a "MSN BOT" ?07:15
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radebob2: do you have a minute? i'm having trouble compiling the driver for atmel07:16
bob2you don't need to compile it07:16
radebob2: well, i really don't know what to do, i've installed everything i think i can install, and it's still not working, their site has newer drivers for download, and i'm afraid i might even need to rebuild my kernel to get this stupid thing working07:17
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sanitarioogge, you need to sudo mkdir /media/w2k ; sudo chown ogge: /media/w2k07:17
radebob2: according to their instructions07:17
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bob2rade: just return it and get a neatgear ma-111, version 107:18
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AlekANY ONE WHO HAS A MSN BOT?07:18
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Davey|WorkDoes anyone know if I resize an NTFS partition with the Ubuntu installer, will it format it?07:19
deviosa msn bot?07:19
jbroomeAlek: no response to two inquiries leads me to believe, that no.  no one does07:19
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mindspinAlek you know capital letters are for shouting?07:19
oggecool, it does work sanitario. thanx.07:19
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radebob2: i don't know if i can afford it, i mean, i'm a student, in germany, from serbia, i can't return this one because i bought it over ebay07:19
sanitarioogge, no problem07:19
bob2Alek: stop being annoying07:20
lpihGuys07:20
mindspinrade sell it again and get anew one (used)07:20
lpihI've done desktop install for a SMP computer07:20
lpihit's been used a desktop.. is it stupid to just delete xorg and stuffs from it07:20
murphywhen I try to log in to the root user through the main login screen, it says" The root user can't login here"07:20
bob2rade: well, good luck07:20
lpihand continue using it as a server07:20
bob2murphy: so don't do that07:20
lpihor should i do a fresh install07:20
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Davey|Workmurphy: you use sudo07:20
sjmurdochThis page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto says: "At this point, you need to change your kernel's configuration to statically include your bus, disk, and filesystem drivers." - do you know why this is the case? I never did this in Debian Woody and didn't have problems.07:20
murphyso, where am I supposed to login other than the terminal?07:20
bob2murphy: you dont ever login as root07:21
murphyI'm just trying to avoid unix commands,07:21
oggewhat mp3 player for ubuntu hoary, xfce4 do you prefer. want a small, fast one.07:21
murphyok,07:21
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bob2sjmurdoch: if you didn't do it on woody, you wouldn't have had a bootable kernel07:21
Davey|Workmyosotis: login as your regular user, and type "sudo " before a command to make it run as root07:21
bob2sjmurdoch: the default woody config included such things statically07:21
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murphyI do on a mac in osX, that's why I'm confused07:21
Davey|Workmyosotis: to login as root, simple login as aanother user and type "sudo passwd root" to set a root password, then type "exit" or "login" and login :)07:21
Choubakano :(07:22
murphybob2: lynx had me change that thing in my fstab to 02207:22
Choubakadon't enable the root account for no reason.07:22
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Choubakaif you need a root shell, use sudo -i07:22
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murphywhat do I do to gain access to my mounted drive through my admin user?07:22
sjmurdochbob2: But not on Hoary? Above that warning it says to copy the .config from /boot to the compile directory and that was sufficient for Woody07:22
murphythrough the gui?07:22
deviosI just installed openssh-server.  when I try to start the service, I get: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key07:22
deviosCould not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key07:22
deviosDisabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key07:22
devios *hd: no hostkeys available -- exiting.                                  [fail] 07:22
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deviosnm - it was because I was trying to start ssh as a normal user07:23
deviosforgot to sudo07:24
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bob2sjmurdoch: why are you compiling a kernel anyway?07:24
bob2devios: er, it starts by default...07:24
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sjmurdochbob2: I am trying to debug a device driver, so want to make some changes to it07:24
deviosbob2: it does.  I had to change the port it listened on, so I stopped it07:24
deviosbob2: and then forgot to sudo when restarting it07:25
oggethe smallest, lightest mp3 player out there for ubuntu hoary, xfce4 ?07:25
Seveasbeep-media-player07:25
bob2ogge: you don't want it, but cplay07:25
sjmurdochbob2: Ubuntu would appear to be different. The .boot/config... in Hoary has IDE as a module, whereas in Woody it is static07:25
oggeapt-get insatll cplay ?07:25
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bob2sjmurdoch: yes, woody was from 200207:26
bob2sjmurdoch: sarge is the same as hoary07:26
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blake__hey can someone help me please07:26
bob2sjmurdoch: if you know how to debug a driver, presumably you know how to configure a kernel, so just go from scratch07:26
blake__i think i did something stupid07:26
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blake__lol07:27
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sjmurdochbob2: I could, but I haven't compiled one with Ubuntu and just installed it yesterday so am looking for the easiest option07:27
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sjmurdochI am also interested in finding the differences between Woody and Hoary07:28
Kartagishello07:28
bob2sjmurdoch: it's identical to every other os07:28
SliderManhow can i check what grafics card has started?07:28
blake__there was a folder on my desktop that i sisn't want anyone to see so i wen't to prefrances and un checked all the options and now it dissapeered and i need it back!!!! someone plase help07:28
{Seb}sjmurdoch: hoary has newer packages07:28
bob2sjmurdoch: this is not between "woody and hoary" it's between "2002 and the modern world".  everyone is doing initrd now07:29
maruchanhello i was wondering if someone could help me fix my sound07:29
blake__please someone help i need my porn back07:29
blake__lmoa07:30
sjmurdochbob2: So if I use an initrd, I don't need to compile in bus/disk/filesystem? That howto implies that it does, which confused me07:30
bob2I don't htink it does imply that, but you are are correct07:30
Seveasblake__, chmod u+rwx ~/Desktop/NAME_OF_FOLDER07:30
bob2\however, it's a massive pain in the ass, so avoid it if possible07:30
sjmurdochbob2: An initrd is a pain in the ass?07:31
topyliblake__: change the permissions as root (use sudo)07:31
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maruchanmy sound sounds like crap07:31
blake__ok i'll try that do i need to do it sudo07:31
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blake__ooh ok07:31
jfk303Hello, how do I give a folder (and ALL its sub folders / files) full rwx permissions to all users?07:31
bob2sjmurdoch: yes07:31
oggewow. beep-media-player is really nice :)07:31
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resiakjfk303: Why are you doing that?07:31
topyliblake__: in the future, just rename it to .pr0n so it's hidden :)07:31
Seveasjfk303, chmod -R a+rwX foldername07:32
sjmurdochbob2: In what way, I haven't had any problems in the past, and have used it because it was the Woody default07:32
sjmurdoch?07:32
jfk303resaiak, its music everyone needs access to07:32
maruchani think the problem with my sound it sounds mono07:32
KartagisI have to install nvidia drivers. I apt-get'd nvidia-kernel-source. that required kernel-source. I apt-cache search'd kernel-source but there's only 2-4-27 but my current kernel is 2.6.10. what to do?07:32
blake__what will that do07:32
blake__it will hide it??/07:32
blake__how07:32
topyliyes07:32
bob2sjmurdoch: no, initrds are not the default on woody07:32
resiakjfk303: So make a group and add the appropriate people to that group. Also, why should music be executable?07:32
topyliblake__: ok, open your home folder in nautilus07:33
SliderManhow can i check what grafics card has started?07:33
topyliblake__: then select view -> hidden files and see how much hidden crap you have :)07:33
Seveasblake__, files and folders of which the name start with a '.' are considered hidden07:33
justinKartagis: why do you think that you need to compile the nvidia drivers?07:33
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jfk303resaik, it dosnt really matter - doing a fresh install soon07:33
sjmurdochbob2: Isn't kernel-image built with a initrd  - I certainly have an initrd from the default kernel lying around?07:34
seliniumHi all , for some reason my cdrom drives have stopped working. here is the error message http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/25707:34
resiakjfk303: All the more reason to mess around now.07:34
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bob2sjmurdoch: kernel-image, yes, but the default kernel is not from a kernel-image package07:34
bob2anyway, do whatever yo uwant07:35
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bob2have fun07:35
sjmurdochbob2: Thanks for your help07:35
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SliderManfailed to run /usr/bin/update-manager: chiled terminated with 1 status WTF?07:36
lilrickygot a question, this is my first time with Ubuntu, I've been weaned on Debian and Mandrake, when I installed Hoary, it didnt ask for a root password, I've tried ubuntu, root, null cant seem to find out what it is.  What is the default root password?07:36
jfk303resaik, theres loads of different owners / permissions all in there, its a real mess, I just want music now07:36
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seliniumlilricky: use sudo it's safer07:36
resiakjfk303: Meh, whatever :)07:36
mindspinjfl303 chmod -r * 77707:37
mindspinjfl303 chmod -R * 77707:37
DeCaoSI used uw , Now installed dovecot but my user mail no connect :( why07:37
lilrickyok, but when I run a program from the gui that requires root privileges it asks for it07:37
mindspinso everybody can enjoy07:37
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KartagisI have to install nvidia drivers. I apt-get'd nvidia-kernel-source. that required kernel-source. I apt-cache search'd kernel-source but there's only 2-4-27 but my current kernel is 2.6.10. what to do?07:37
pedingtolilricky: sudo passwd root07:38
fivrewhy is it that when I chmod the settings for /dev/dsp they disappear when I reboot?07:38
blaylockwhen i install a kernel update, why is it that uname still gives me the same kernel from the installation?07:38
pedingtothen you can set the root password.07:38
jbroomeblaylock: did you reboot?07:38
lilrickyduh, thanks, forgot about that :)07:38
pedingto:)07:38
blaylocksynaptic even says that the currently installed version is the updated one07:38
blaylockjbroome, yeah i rebooted07:38
fivrelilricky, when it asks for your pass in the GUI, it means your password07:38
Kartagishello?07:38
fivrethe one you use to sudo07:38
blake__that didn't work07:39
narkcehI cannot install mplayer in apt-get install because there isn't any? Should i do something with /etc/apt/sources.list?07:39
blaylockjbroome, but grub only has one kernel listed to choose from07:39
blake__it says it can't find the file07:39
lilrickyno fivre its not accepting the user password, it wants the root one07:39
Seveasfivre, /dev/ is created on boot07:39
pedingtohe hasn't set the root password yet fivre.07:39
Aleknarkceh, yes07:39
SliderManfailed to run /usr/bin/update-manager: chiled terminated with 1 status WTF?07:40
fivrehmm07:40
SeveasSliderMan, what happens if you run sudo update-manager from the terminal?07:40
SliderMani dont know :)07:40
SliderMansec07:40
fivreis there anyway to set it to change permissions on startup?07:40
SeveasSliderMan, then try ;)07:40
narkcehAlek: any idea what should i do?07:40
maruchanin alsamixer it has things like sourround off and other crap is their a way to turn it on07:40
Aleknarkceh, you open the file with gedit..., and changes the servers...07:41
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Seveasfivre, why would you want to change it..?07:41
Aleknarkceh, I can send you my file...07:41
narkcehAlek: sure07:41
SliderManfiled to run /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator: child terminated with 1 status07:41
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SliderMan:-07:41
fivrebecause, every time I true to use xmms or rhythmboxm, it seems to require that file07:41
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SliderMan:(07:41
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SeveasSliderMan, a normal terminal, not the root terminal...07:42
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fivreI guess I could just run it as sudo and go from there07:42
SnowWritehi.. I just delivered a server to a local school district with Ubuntu, Zope and Plone installed.. it's a Dell Poweredge.. it keeps locking up..07:42
SliderManmoshe is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported. WTF?07:42
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rezzcobainCan anyone help me with installing the drivers for my ATI card...im new to linux altogether07:42
fivre|afkmoshe needs to be added to that file07:43
SeveasSliderMan, well, there ya go, add ypur user to the sudoers file...07:43
SliderManhow?07:43
Seveasrezzcobain: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:43
fivre|afksudo visudo with an account that can07:43
Seveasindeed :)07:43
justinfivre|afk: don't touch /dev/dsp. add your user accounts to the audio group07:43
mindspinSnowWrite what do you mean with "locks up"07:44
Aleknarkceh, you got it?07:44
Aleknarkceh, just make a backup file first07:44
SnowWritewe have to reboot it..07:44
SnowWritephysically.07:44
maruchanso can anyone helpo me fix my sound, please07:44
mindspinyou mean it "freezes"07:44
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SnowWriteyes :-)07:44
SnowWriteit was fine for about a week.. now the technical guy at the district has to drive over to the data center to reboot it07:45
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murtunhey all07:45
SeveasSliderMan, please *ask* before starting a private chat....07:45
SliderManhow?07:45
SliderMani asked07:45
SeveasSnowWrite, do you get any info from the logs07:45
murtunIs Ubuntu ment to come with gcc un installed???07:45
mindspinhave a look at the logs, maybe the harddisk is filled with sensless logfiles07:45
SeveasSliderMan, fivre|afk answered that...07:45
Seveasmurtun, yes07:46
oggehow to take screenshot in xfce4?07:46
murtunAhh07:46
SliderManwhat?07:46
Seveasit is available on the CD and from the repositories07:46
Seveas<fivre|afk> sudo visudo with an account that can07:46
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murtunseveas, what kind of binaries does ubuntu use>07:46
Seveasmurtun, ELF of course...07:46
murtunwhat are the endings?07:46
Seveasendings..?07:46
mindspin.bgb07:47
murtunlike u have..   .rpm   .tar07:47
murtunahh07:47
Seveasmurtun, ah, pachages07:47
Seveas.deb07:47
mindspinno its not .bgb07:47
murtun:)07:47
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mindspin't was ajoke07:47
SliderManwhat can i do?07:47
Seveasubuntu is a debian derivative, so it uses .deb07:47
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SeveasSliderMan, READ WHAT FIVRE SAID!!07:47
SliderMansudo visudo with an account that can07:47
mindspintrust seveas more than me07:47
SliderMani dont have some accounts07:47
SliderManonly moshe07:48
SliderMan:(07:48
fivrehmm07:48
SnowWritenot yet Seveas.. I'm new to this.. I'll take a look at the logs.. thing is it's firewalled and they poked holes for me so I could work on the Plone interface.. and I don't have as much access now as I did when it was in my data center..07:48
SeveasSliderMan, then how come moshe got deleted..?07:48
CarlFKwhat is the resolution of a modified datetime on ext3 fs?07:48
fivrereboot and go to rescue mode07:48
SliderMan?07:48
CarlFKor any FS other than fat07:48
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fivreSeveas: he probably changed the name07:48
mindspinSnowWrite ssh access is kinda better07:48
SeveasSliderMan, moshe did not 'just get deleted' from the sudoers file07:48
SliderMan:L(07:48
Seveasyou must have done that yourself, or taken yourself out of the admin group07:48
fivredid you rename it?07:49
murtunanyone recommend a site for Debian / ubuntu binary's?07:49
Riddellpackages.ubuntu.com07:49
Seveasmurtun, the Ubuntu packages can be installed with the package management system07:49
SnowWritehave that too.. :-) I just was wondering if there were any issues.. with ubuntu and dell already.. i'll go take a look at the wiki07:49
murtunnice oen07:49
Seveasmurtun, system -> administration -> synaptic package manager07:49
murtunand what is that seveas07:49
Seveas^-- that :)07:49
murtunAhh cheers :)07:49
fivreSliderMan: In any case, reboot, and choose Ubuntu Rescue Mode, which will give you a root terminal07:49
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fivrevisudo from there07:50
mindspinSnowWrite: remember wether you enabled logging for some reasons anywhere, once I set mysql to log everything and got 250 M of logfiles within an hour07:50
fivreand edit the file07:50
andersbrI'm trying to back up my mom's Windows laptop onto my computer.  The transfer is going at about 1.5Mbit/sec,  which seems suspiciously slow.  Anyone have any ideas?07:50
SliderManthanks i will try it :-07:51
seliniumHi all , for some reason my cdrom drives have stopped working. here is the error message http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/257 please help! :)07:51
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Seveasselinium, please put a good cd rom in the drive :)07:51
murphyok, sorry, I'm still having a big pain with this07:51
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murphydoes anyone know how to change disk permissions?07:52
Seveasmurphy, chmod07:52
murphyok, thanks07:52
Seveasmurphy, what do you want exactly?07:52
seliniumSeveas: cheers! it creates that error message when a music cd is put in. It works ok for data.07:52
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ranekI had this problem this moring the day after installing a ron of Ubuntu stuff07:52
Seveasselinium, lol :) music cd's can't be mounted07:52
SnowWritegood point mindspin.. I think we set that up.. logging.. i know the server was setup to boot up squid, webmin, awstats, zope, cmf, plone.. etc.. but maybe the issue is with Squid.. just waiting for server to reboot so I can troubleshoot07:52
murphyI just want to be able to access a drive I have mounted.  I want to access the data outside of my root user07:52
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Seveasmurphy, is it a windows drive or something..?07:53
Am1t^Zhey guys07:53
ranekWhen I loged in it would get pass the username and pass word then it would show a brown screen with the mouse and nothing would happen07:53
seliniumSeveas: When a music cd is put in I cannot acces it either? (Feeling a little sheepish! :P )07:53
Am1t^Zis thier any possible way to use an .exe file on ubuntu?07:53
radebob2: sorry to bother you again, i'm trying to configure the driver now, before i compile it (i don't see another alternative), but i seem to be missing /include/asm/irq_vectors.h, i don't even have an asm directory in my kernel source, have you had this problem before?07:53
Seveasselinium, just playing with a music player doesn't work?07:54
SeveasAm1t^Z, you might have luck with wine...07:54
Am1t^Zcan i get wine from package manager?07:54
Seveasyes07:54
Am1t^Zok07:54
murphyit's a NTFS formatted data drive07:54
Am1t^Zim gonna go grab it07:54
Seveasmurphy, did you put it in your /etc/fstab?07:54
murphyyes07:54
GNULinuxermurphy, sudo chmod 777 /path/to/your/partition07:54
SeveasGNULinuxer, that won't work for NTFS...07:55
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Seveasmurphy, remove it again from /etc/fstab07:55
Seveasmurphy: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically07:55
GNULinuxerSeveas, NTFS ? aah07:55
murphychmod: changing permissions of `/otherdrive': Read-only file system07:55
murtunwow, ubuntu is the best :D07:55
murphywhat does that mean?07:55
fivrehmmm...07:56
ranekWere can I get Frivers for my Geforce 4 MX 440 for ubuntu?07:56
Am1t^Zlook on site07:56
Am1t^Zits thier07:56
ranekDrivers*07:56
Alekany one here who can perl?07:56
Am1t^Zwww.ubuntulinux.org07:56
Seveasranek: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:56
oggeanyone know how to take a screenshot / screendump in xfce4?07:56
SeveasAlek, #perl07:56
fivrecan ubuntu dist-upgrade from an install cd?07:56
seliniumSeveas: Arrghhh It works.... I have been wasting soooo much time trying to fix something that wasn't broke.. THankyou for showing me the light.07:56
AlekSeveas, ya07:56
Seveasfivre, yes07:56
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mindspinAlek what do you wanna know?07:56
fivrethank god07:56
murtunThanks for all your help guys + girls07:56
murtun:D07:56
murtunAdios07:56
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SeveasAlek, i meant, try the channel #perl :)07:56
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Alekmindspin, I need help with an bot07:57
AlekSeveas, ok07:57
radedoes anyone know why i don#t have /include/asm/irq_vectors.h in my kernel source ?07:57
radedo i need to install another package?07:57
mindspintry #perl ;-)07:57
Seveasrade, what did you install?07:57
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seliniumSeveas: this all started when i put a data cd in the drive and tried to view the contents. DO i need to mount the cd before I can? Does ubuntu not mount a data cd automatically?07:58
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Hududdo u know if there is a utility that clean the memory ?07:58
moshehow do i start ubunto in safe mode?07:58
Seveasselinium, it should automount...07:58
Alekmindspin, an msn bot who uses perl...07:58
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Seveasmoshe, there is no such thing....07:58
moshe?07:58
Seveasmoshe, there is however the 'recovery mode'07:58
fivremoshe: you mean rescue mode?07:58
radeseveas: well i installed the kernel source initially, which just put an archive containing the source into /usr/src (is that normal).. then i installed the headers for the kernel, but they're in seperate directories in /usr/src07:58
mosheyes07:58
moshe:-07:58
mindspinI have no clue on msn, neither about bots07:58
fivreit should be in the GRUB menu07:59
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moshehow can i add my self to admin list?07:59
fivreright below regular ubuntu07:59
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moshe:-07:59
mindspinI even don't know what msn is07:59
Seveasrade, did you unpack that tarball?07:59
moshehow can i add my self to admin list?08:00
fivresudo visudo08:00
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moshebut i cant i not admin :-08:00
BockBilbohey there08:00
ranekCan one tell me what i need to do to set up Ubuntu? i really don't know what I am doing.08:00
radeseveas: yes, i did, but there isn't even an asm directory in include, just asm-*08:00
ranekanyone*08:00
Seveasfivre, lol, that will only work if he is admin already ;)08:00
seliniumSeveas:  Any reason i can check why it isn't?08:00
fivremoshe: In recovery mode, use the visudo command08:00
dbernar1ranek be more specific08:00
dbernar1set up what.08:00
murphyroot@linuxman:/home/murphy # sudo chmod 777 /otherdrive08:00
murphychmod: changing permissions of `/otherdrive': Read-only file system08:00
Seveasselinium, check if D-BUS is running...08:00
moshethanks!08:00
mindspinmoshe have you tried sudo visudo?08:00
murphywhat od I need to change?08:01
fivrethat will bring you to the sudoers file08:01
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moshefrom here yes08:01
moshe..08:01
Seveasmurphy, do as I said: remove it from fstab and run that little script...08:01
mindspinnot from recovery mode?08:01
ranekI dunno I am new to Ubuntu and I don't know how to do most of every thing08:01
ranekLike getting Drivers for my Graphics card08:01
Am1t^Zok08:01
Am1t^Zi installed libwine08:02
Seveasranek: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:02
Am1t^Zwhere would i find it?08:02
SeveasAm1t^Z, you need to install wine itself08:02
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Seveasand read the manual on winehq.net08:02
Seveas(or .com)08:02
murphywow, sorry I missed that08:02
murphywhich script?08:02
BockBilboive got a wierd problem, i have an iriver mp3 of 40Gb storage with vfat format, which i mount as /dev/sda1, and it has like 6 gigas free, but it happens that when mounting it on linux it doesnt let me write anything cause it says that the disk is full. Ive checked what df -l says, and it says that the use is of 100% and that there is no free space, which isnt true, cause the mp3 itself tells me it has 6 gigas free, and i have also checked that in win and def08:02
BockBilboenitively it isnt full.08:02
Seveasmurphy: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically08:02
murphywait08:02
murphygot it08:02
BockBilbowhat might be happening?08:02
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radeseveas: any ideas on what my problem is?08:03
mindspinis vfat able to handle that amount of space?08:03
fivreIs it possible to change which partition Ubuntu is on without losing all settings and whatnot?08:03
murphythanks08:03
Seveasrade, not really...08:04
BockBilbomindspin, yes08:04
Seveasmindspin, it should be :)08:04
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SliderManmoshe@SerVer:~$ sudo visudo moshe08:04
SliderManPassword:08:04
SliderManmoshe is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.08:04
SliderManmoshe@SerVer:~$08:04
Seveasfivre, yes, but not too easy08:04
SliderManbaa08:04
SliderManim in recovery mode08:04
SliderMan:-08:04
SeveasSliderMan, you should be root in recovery mode08:04
fivreare you sure?08:04
seliniumSeveas: it appears to be running.08:04
Seveasyou should have hit enter insteald of <ctrl>something...08:04
SliderManits asked my user and password08:05
SliderManyes08:05
SliderMancrtl _d08:05
fivrein GRUB?08:05
SliderMan+d08:05
SliderManyes its ask my user and pass08:05
SliderMan:-08:05
Seveasselinium, maybe you disabled it in system -> prefs -> removable media08:05
murphysilly question, how do I run a script?08:05
jmjonesanyone know if the marillat stuff is down?  I can't get to transcode.....08:05
Seveasfivre, you might need to reinstall grub08:05
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Seveasand you will need to change its config08:05
fivreSliderMan: what option are you choosing in GRUB?08:05
BockBilboSeveas... dont want to bother you, but any idea of why is this happening?08:06
jmjonesmurphy: `chmod +x <scriptname>; ./<scriptname>`08:06
fivrehmm, well, that's a lot easier than Windows08:06
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fivreat least it's possible08:06
SeveasBockBilbo, well, it happened to me once after an unclean unmount08:06
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SeveasBockBilbo, try chkdisk on windows08:06
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Seveasmurphy, sudo bash windows_fstab08:06
BockBilbobut, Seveas chkdisk wont format it08:07
BockBilboright?08:07
Seveasno08:07
BockBilbooks08:07
BockBilbogonna try it08:07
radehas anyone ever had a problem with a missing irq_vectors.h file in /include/asm under the kernel source directory?08:07
SliderMani press ESC and menu apeers with 3 options i choose 2 (recivery) its told me to press crtl+d to continue i preesed its start and ask my user and password :-08:07
biffurthey all - I had a question about totem/video playback. Is there any way to optimize playback? It's pretty choppy on my machine.08:07
biffurtVague question, I know08:07
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biffurtbut I'm pretty new to linux. No idea where to start.08:08
SeveasSliderMan, it also sait: press enter to login as root08:08
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SeveasSliderMan, you should have done that...08:08
SliderManenter08:08
SliderManno user?08:08
Am1t^Zwow08:08
Am1t^Zthose directions on wine make no sense08:08
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Seveasrade, install linux-headers-$(uname -r)08:08
SliderManbaa08:08
SliderMan:-08:08
Seveasit's in the headers package08:08
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Alekany one who know what this error is: ??? #2002 - Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)08:08
Alek#2002 - Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)08:08
ranekIs there a way to get in to the terminal with out having to be logged in? cause alst time i set the Nvidia drivers it wouldnt let me log in.08:09
murphyWOW!!!!!08:09
SeveasAlek, install mysql-server...08:09
murphySeveas! Thanks you so much!!!!08:09
murphyYou are amazing!!!!!!!08:09
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timtuxHi, ive got a problem. My installation of ubuntu freez when i comming to "configurating apt". What can the problem be?08:09
gm78ranek, CTRL+ALT+F208:09
Seveasranek, ALT-F& to return to the GUI08:09
SeveasF708:09
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Am1t^Zdoes anyone wanna step me through installation of wine p[lease08:10
timtuxRead reame08:10
timtuxreadme*08:10
Alekseveas, have done it08:10
SeveasAm1t^Z, wine is not that easy, please read the documentation...08:10
gm78Hey all. What does everyone think of this workstation from Sun. I am thinking of getting it and putting Ubuntu AMD64 on it.  http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/ultra20/index.jsp  (I'll probably buy the cheaper configuration)08:10
Am1t^Zi did08:10
BockBilboSeveas, fuck windows... do you remember where is chkdisk located at?08:10
BockBilbosystem32?08:10
Alekseveas, but installed phpmyadmin after...08:10
Am1t^Zand its confusing08:10
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timtuxHi, ive got a problem. My installation of ubuntu freez when i comming to "configuring apt...". What can the problem be? It have show 25% for about a half hour now.08:11
SeveasBockBilbo, ENOCLUE :)08:11
BockBilbonevermind08:11
BockBilbofound it08:11
Seveasrightclick on the drive from explorer did the trick for me...08:11
SliderManwhen i try to login to root with my password its tolde to me that i cant login from this screen :-08:11
gm78timtux, mine took a while too....not quite that long but still awhile...i was ready to restart and it started working again08:11
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SliderMan:-08:11
gm78SliderMan, u configured the root password or are you just trying your password from sudo?08:11
Seveastimtux, what kind of network connection does that machine have..?08:12
timtuxgm78, okej ;)08:12
seliniumSeveas: I have just placed a data disc in to cdrom0, it does not show up in /dev/cdrom0. After manually sudo mounting it the files are shown. Have I lost the rights to access the drives?08:12
SliderManroot have my password08:12
SliderMan:-08:12
timtux10/10mbit08:12
SliderMani tryed null and my pass08:12
Seveasselinium, hmm, are you running breezy or kernel 2.12 perhaps?08:12
gm78SliderMan, so u used sudo passwd root from your account at some point?08:12
topyligm78: doesn't the workstation come with a perfectly good solaris installation? ;)08:12
timtuxSeveas: 10/10 (100/100 in some networks)08:12
dr_willisloging directly in as root is disabled SliderMan08:12
SliderManits the same pass08:12
Seveastimtux, so it's wired?08:13
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SeveasSliderMan, did you set a root password?08:13
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radeseveas: thanks a lot! i did install the headers before, but 686, because i have a p4, but uname -r told me i needed 386 and now it works!08:13
andersbrgm78:  Nice computer.  I'll take three.08:13
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seliniumSeveas: No i am running hoary 5.04 I believe. I switched a little while ago to the K7 version.08:13
gm78topyli, already tried solaris...nice OS but I don't see the point in learning ANOTHER whole new OS when Linux is secure and serves my needs well08:13
SliderManmm i dont know how but its have my password08:13
timtuxSeveas, it dosent go up to 100%, have stand at 25% for a half hour now.08:13
Seveashmm, odd, did you try restarting selinium ?08:13
topyligm78: yep08:13
timtuxSomone from sweden? ;D08:14
Seveastimtux, I meant "the network connection is wired, right"?08:14
LokeDKIs there some way to bind "import -window root something.jpg" to the Print scrn button? would be nice to take screenshots while gaming.. without gnome's popup window thingie08:14
gm78topyli, I'm debating between getting it and throwing Ubuntu on it or CentOS. I heard that yum/rpm systems have better support for multi-arch libs than Debian....is this the same with Ubuntu?08:14
seliniumSeveas: I have yes... It is a bit strange! I have cdrom in my groups! It is not too much of a problem now I know i can still listen to music and get files, but it is just a bit of a pain having to manually mount things... :)08:14
SeveasLokeDK, sure. Remove it as shortcut for the gnome printscreen, make a custom command and bind prt scr to it08:14
timtuxSeveas, no the network connection is just fine...08:14
topyligm78: nothing supports more than debian08:15
biffurthey all - I had a question about totem/video playback. Is there any way to optimize or speed up playback? Better programs to use then totem? is xine faster?08:15
Seveasselinium, plugdev should be there too iirc08:15
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Seveas(in your groups)08:15
andersbrQuestion:  Still getting under 2Mb/s transferring files on the local network.  Any ideas on how to look for the bottleneck?08:15
Seveasgm78, yum/rpm SUCKS compared to apt/deb08:15
topyligm78: but perhaps i don't get what you mean with multi-arch libs here08:15
LokeDKSeveas, how do i bind a command to it?08:15
seliniumSeveas: GOt plugdec as well.   iirc?08:15
timtuxubuntu is harder then Gentoo to install ;->08:16
SeveasLokeDK, check the apps/metacity section in gconf-editor08:16
gm78topyli, no...what i mean is that i heard apt doesn't support say having imlib2-i386 and imlib2-amd64 installed on the same system.....also, ignoring solaris, what do u think of the system overall (the cheaper $875 configuration)08:16
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SliderManseveas, mm i dont know how but its have my password08:16
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LokeDKSeveas, thx08:16
SeveasSliderMan, then simply login as root on a different virtual terminal (switch with <ctrl><alt><F3>08:16
SliderManohh fuck the world:-08:16
seliniumSliderMan: watch the potty mouth :)08:17
radeseveas, i have another question, i now have the problem "X Windows include files missing", but i can't find xorg-dev or something in synaptic, is there another repository i should use or are the headers in some other package?08:17
topyligm78: don't know about such library situations08:17
Seveasxlibs-dev will help08:17
ompaulrandom thought, should a user who is having printing problems be able to click on the System ->  Administrating -> Printing and along with being offered the chance to configure printers (after all could be a new one) be offered a system print one page one line test - if test fails and there is a previous known good value that could be offered, with a last option if there is a usb subsystem being used for the printing it could be 'reboot08:17
ompauled'08:17
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Alekhow to change mysql password?08:18
Seveasompaul, it's not really clear what you mean...08:18
SliderManseveas, what i need to wite to add me?08:18
SeveasAlek, you can do that with phpmyadmin (you had that installed right?)08:18
seliniumSeveas: Thank for all your help. I will be rebuilding the pc soon anyway, I am sure the problems will disappear after a fresh install. Thanks again. :)08:18
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Alekseveas, yes08:18
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Alekseveas, but i cant log in08:19
SeveasSliderMan, your_login ALL=(ALL) ALL08:19
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radeseveas: thanks again!08:19
SliderManseveas, all?08:19
SeveasAlek, the default mysql login is root without password08:19
SeveasSliderMan, yes, you need to add only that...08:19
SliderManseveas, i loged on to root what next?08:20
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timtuxHow long "config. apt..." take?08:20
Alekseveas, i have tryed08:20
SeveasSliderMan, sudo visodo08:20
SeveasSliderMan, go to the last line08:20
Alekseveas, and got an error08:20
SeveasSliderMan, then hit o08:20
Seveasand add that line of text08:20
Seveasthen hit ESC08:20
Seveasand type :wq08:20
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SeveasAlek, 'the unable to connect' means that either mysql-server is not installed or that the server isn't running...08:21
Alekseveas, ok08:21
ompaulSeveas, using that system,admin,printing menu option, would users benefit from the following options (A) configure printing (B) being able to try to print test page (C) use last know good value settings for printer {in case something had fallen over} (D) if for the users printer their machine used the USB system be in a position to kill it off and restart it?08:21
Alekseveas, shall i try to reinstall?08:21
ompauls/know/known08:22
Am1t^Zyo08:22
SeveasAlek, try to start it ...08:22
Am1t^Zwhere would i find wine after i installed it?08:22
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Seveasinvoke-rc.d mysql start08:22
SeveasAm1t^Z, dpkg -L wine08:22
Alekok08:22
AndrWshi , i have a problem with my sound.. I have found a suggestion of how to fix it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#howtoad but i can`t understand  where i shall put this command or whatever it is . The command " To do this, edit /etc/esound/esd.conf" and change the line that begins with spawn_options to begin with default_options. Finally, change the -as 5 to -as 2.08:22
AndrWs Where shall i write the edit /etc/esound/esd.conf ?08:22
Panzerboyhello everybody08:22
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gm78Is there anyone here using Ubuntu AMD64?08:23
Am1t^Zwtf08:23
SeveasAndrWs, in the terminal you type: sudo gedit /etc/esound/esd.conf08:23
Am1t^Zseveas it just loaded a whole bunch of crap08:23
Am1t^Zthen went back to cmd promt08:23
Alekseveas, got an error there too...08:23
SliderManseveas, thanks working!08:23
mjrgm78, yes08:23
SeveasAm1t^Z, well, you asked for where it was installed08:23
Am1t^Zhow do i use an .exe app with it?08:23
SeveasAm1t^Z, and it's installed on the paths shown...08:23
SeveasAm1t^Z, wine filename.exex08:24
SliderManseveas, can you tell me how to cheke if my grafics card installed?08:24
SeveasSliderMan, glxinfo | grep -i rendering08:24
Am1t^Zseveas , its says it cant ifnd the program, its on the desktop right now, where do i put it to load?08:25
Alekinvoke-rc.d mysql start = command not found08:25
gm78mjr, im not sure if u noticed my question above. Does apt currently support multi-arch libraries being installed on the same computer. (For instance, installing both gtk2-i386 and gtk2-amd64 on the same computer)? Or do you have to set up a chroot 32 bit environment?08:25
SeveasAm1t^Z, wine ~/Desktop/filename.exe08:25
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mjrgm78, no, you'd have to go chroot08:25
mjr(That's what I do, with dchroot it's not too bad)08:25
Nikopol /etc/init.d/mysql start08:25
SeveasAlek, try with sudo invoke-rc.d mysql start08:26
SliderManseveas, pci devices?08:26
Alekseveas, ah08:26
lynxSeveas, i've installed xorg-driver-fglrx package with apt-get, it wasn't suposed to work?08:26
lynxmy ati radeon08:26
Seveaslynx, unfortunately you need to do even more08:26
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Seveaslynx: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:26
lynxcan u help me?08:26
lynxokay08:27
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Am1t^Zwtf08:27
NikopolAlek: does sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start do anything for you?08:27
Am1t^Zit says error inomprt modulke Mfc42.dll is needed08:27
Am1t^Zand 2 more likke that08:27
SeveasAm1t^Z, then you're out of luck...08:28
xliuis wine a commercial software?08:28
Seveasxliu, no08:28
Am1t^Zcant i get those dlls?08:28
Alekseveas, invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysql not found.08:28
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SeveasAlek, then you did NOT install mysql-server....08:28
mjrxliu, no, but there are commercial derivatives (crossover office, cedega)08:28
SliderMan:-08:28
SliderMan:-08:28
mjrxliu, wine itself is free as in speech and beer08:28
xliuok, thanks mjr08:28
AlekNikopol, command not fount08:28
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abelikohi08:29
fivrebeer is free?08:29
Aleknikopol, found*08:29
abelikohow i can delete modules??08:29
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mjrfivre, yep, just ask your neighbourhood bar08:29
ompaulfivre, yes, get one receipe and run make on it08:29
SeveasAlek, sudo aptitude install mysql-server, it is NOT installed yet if the initscript is missing...08:29
abelikohi08:30
elio_ubuntu-it08:30
abelikoanyone knows how to remove installed modules?08:30
Alekseveas, tanks08:30
radeok, i have another missing file, hub.h, does anyone have any ideas?08:30
|Kabuto|abeliko: rmmod modulename08:31
Alekseveas, but i installed it in syntapic for a time ago...08:31
elio_#ubuntu-it08:31
fivreIs there a way to make BitchX not autologon with my linux usrname?08:31
ompaulelio_,  /join #ubuntu-it :)08:31
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BoD_SWATDoes anyone have 'usefull' programs to 'pimp' my desktop?08:32
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|Kabuto|guys, nvidia-kernel-source requires that I have kernel 2.6.10 kernel-source but repositories have 2.4.27 only. any ideas how I apt-get it?08:32
Tobais there a "master list" of all the programs that are installed on ubuntu?08:33
ompaulBoD_SWAT, what do you like to do? audio surf mail or something else?08:33
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TobaBoD_SWAT, 'pimp' and 'useful' do not belong in the same sentence08:33
oggeis there any command to view data transferred via networkcard, some kind of "networkinfo" in ubuntu hoary.08:33
AlekBYE08:33
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BoD_SWATogge, ifconfig08:34
SeveasBoD_SWAT, gdesklets?08:34
topyliogge iptraf is nice08:34
BoD_SWAT|Kabuto|, Just add the right depository08:34
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oggeiptraf doesnt work.08:34
topylireally? hmm08:35
BoD_SWATOkay, let me refraise that sentence. I want my desktop to look real spiffy. Like Samurize (win32), maybe and integrated terminal on the background etc. ?08:35
oggeyup. strange. ifconfig does work.08:35
|Kabuto|BoD_SWAT: how do I know what the 'right depository' is?08:35
fivrehmm08:35
|Kabuto|ogge: /sbin/ifconfig08:35
topyli|Kabuto|: linux-source-2.6.10 is there08:35
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ompaulogge, I use a little applet called 'network monitor'08:36
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fivreremoving the Evolution Suite says it will remove "ubuntu desktop"08:36
fivreis ubuntu desktop important?08:36
ompaulfivre, well it is your desktop08:36
oggeok thanx guys.08:36
topylifivre: not really08:36
BoD_SWAT|Kabuto|, have a look here http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories08:36
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BoD_SWAT|Kabuto|, and check if you have the newest kernel (uname -a)08:37
topyliBoD_SWAT: linux-source-2.6.10 must be in main. what's with the repositories?08:37
AndrWsis it possible to install and play warcraft 3 in linux?08:38
resiakGoogle for Cedega08:38
BoD_SWATtopyli, I guess if he 'only' has the 2.4.27 repos, that he doesn't have the right ones. Prove me wrong?08:39
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topyliBoD_SWAT: surely he's got main08:39
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fivreis anyone else having trouble connecting to the forums?08:39
|Kabuto|guys, all this time I've been doing kernel-source08:40
hondjeif this kernel upgrade only affects amd64, why am I being bothered to upgrade my kernel on x86?08:40
|Kabuto|shame on me08:40
SpecialBuddywhat plugin do I need in order to play wmv on firefox?08:40
topyli|Kabuto|: debian style :)08:40
|Kabuto|topyli: ?08:40
AndrWsis it a command to see your hardware ..and drivers installed?08:40
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|Kabuto|AndrWs: lspci lsusb lsmod08:41
topyli|Kabuto|: that's how debian names the source. ubuntu uses linux-source08:41
|Kabuto|or hwinfo08:41
murphyok, question, How do I know if Ubuntu is using my Nvidia Geforce4 mx440?08:41
|Kabuto|topyli: oh, I didn't know that08:41
unomeare the forums down?08:41
|Kabuto|but why do ubuntu deps have it?08:41
thenukemurphy: well, if you can see something else than black screen?08:41
murphyok thanks08:42
jmjonesunome: i can't get to them, either....08:42
ompaulunome,  UbuntuForums is 37.56% closer to reaching its goal of prepaying for our servers/bandwidth.08:42
topyli|Kabuto|: probably so that people don't install debian kernels from universe by mistake :)08:43
ompaulunome, some upstream is not doing the right thing for you08:43
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unomeompaul: the forums help me learn tons of stuff everyday, and I'll be glad to donate to support the community.08:44
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goodiis the experimental ntfs write kernel driver compiled as module with 5.4?08:44
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bradehello all08:46
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IceDC571wow.. a new kernel is out in the repos, but the version number is the same... only different revision08:46
unomeompaul: the Ubntu thong is nice too ;-)08:46
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bradeyeah i updated this morning and noticed that.08:47
gm78mjr, sorry left the room for a few minutes....is the chroot hard to set up??? Or does it come already set up for things like OpenOffice?08:47
IceDC571but if i update, wont my ati drivers screw up and i would have to reconfigure them again?08:47
ompaulunome, there are some things that no one should ever see and a 19stone man in a thong is one of them (unless shudder)08:47
unomelol08:48
goodiis there a buildin cdburn software with the ubuntu std installation?08:48
Tomcat_goodi: Yes.08:48
IceDC571goodi: nautilus08:48
dr_willisyes goodi08:48
goodithanks08:48
Tomcat_goodi: There is a "CD Creator" Thing in Nautilus.08:48
goodi(no ubuntu here, but a friend got a problem with it) i love this kind of helping08:48
Tomcat_And you can right-click ISO files.08:48
goodiit's oki:)08:48
bradeis there any p2p software in the repos that anyone can recommend?08:48
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lynxanyone here uses breezy?08:49
Tomcat_brade: aMule08:49
dr_willisbrade,  theres a p2p wiki section that details most all of them08:49
gm78brade : gtk-gnutella, or if u dont mind installing software manually you could install limewire08:49
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Tomcat_brade: Is almost as good as eMule, but lacks the serverless network Kademlia.08:49
SliderManhow do i run sh file?08:49
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metzensh file.sh08:50
AndrWshmm firefox cant  connect to any pages know.. and I`m almost 100 % sure that im connected to the internet08:50
metzenor just ./file.sh08:50
goodiwhat was the name of the experimental ntfs (write) module? anyone knows that?08:50
gm78AndrWs, trying pinging google08:50
gm78AndrWs, *try pinging google i mean08:50
TobaAndrWs, that should not be an almost08:50
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Tobayou're obviously online as you are talking to us08:50
andersbrAndrWs:  Sounds like a DNS problem.08:50
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abelikohi08:50
Tobawhether or not dns is up, that's a differnet matter08:51
abelikohow can i remove a directori from console??08:51
bradethanks.  this linux thing is so much fun...oh yeah, reason i ask is that the dvd drive in the computer is super old and very slow.  i tried ripping a cd yesterday and it took nearly 40 minutes so i would much rather download my cd's :)08:51
metzenabeliko: rm -R directoryName08:51
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AndrWshow do i ping google ...sry im a real newbi in ubuintu and linux...ping www.google.com ?08:52
stevedAndrWs: yep that will do it08:52
_simpletype ping08:52
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_simpleand ping alone08:52
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s_anderls08:53
s_anderdamn08:53
s_andersorry :)08:53
Davey|WorkWhats the command to reconfigure xorg interactively?08:53
castquick question - i take it aptitude is perferable over apt-get in ubuntu to?08:53
dr_willisaptitude is just a front end to apt-get  isent it?08:54
AndrWswell i think i get connection  64 packets transmitted, 64 received, 0% packet loss, time 63062ms08:55
castwell, no, not just a. it provides a few features apt-get doesnt that are significant08:55
ubuntu_demonhi08:55
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dr_willishow does it compare to synaptic then?08:55
casti dont know, is synaptic a drop in replacement for apt-get?08:55
dr_willissynaptic is the X front end. :P08:56
ompauldr_willis, it is a terminal based app as opposed to a gui08:56
casthttp://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/04/msg11344.html [Nine reasons why you should be using aptitude instead of apt-get or dselect.] 08:56
castthen ill take that as a i no08:56
justinsynaptic doesn't do the nicer dependency tracking and logging that aptitude does08:56
AndrWshmm know it works08:56
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castdifferent question now, is aptitude in the default install?08:57
dr_willisHmm.. makes one wonder  why synaptic and aptitude dont do the exact same tracking.08:57
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IceDC571cast: yes08:57
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lynxi prefer synaptic08:58
zenlunaticso gnome has built in bittorrent?08:58
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naliothzenlunatic: if you call it that08:58
naliothzenlunatic: i prefer to use btdownloadcurses.py from a "gnu screen" session08:59
castwell, synaptic and aptitude and 2 fairly different things08:59
castleast in my mind. wouldnt dream of using synaptic on my server08:59
castand=are :\08:59
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castits 430am and i just woke up08:59
IceDC571talk about timezone difference09:00
IceDC571is everyone using am and pm now?09:00
IceDC571i thought most other people are using 24 hour time09:00
naliothIceDC571: i prefer military time (don't know how its called outside the US)09:00
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castwhat do you mean? in everyday life we use am/pm09:00
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naliothcast: using 24 hour time, one o'clock in the afternoon is 1300 hours09:01
metzenabeliko: rm -R directoryName09:01
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castis 24 hour time always 4 digits?09:02
IceDC571no09:02
IceDC571well09:02
dr_willis00:0009:02
SliderManML Parsing Error: syntax error09:02
SliderManLocation: jar:resource:///chrome/toolkit.jar!/content/global/config.xul09:02
SliderManLine Number 1, Column 1:Mode != FIND_NORMAL) closeFindBar(); }, gQuickFindTimeoutLength);09:02
SliderMan^ WTF?09:02
IceDC571yes if you want to view the minutes09:02
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IceDC571SliderMan: please paste in an appropriate place09:03
lynxhere its 16:0309:03
SliderManwhat?09:03
SliderManto paste where?09:03
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IceDC571http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:03
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apollo2011How do you execute a .sh file?09:04
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lynxhm09:04
IceDC571apollo2011: sh filename.sh09:04
pipatronHm, I want to use my ubuntu machine to compile and make a kernel for a debian sarge machine.. Can I just take the debian kernel source package and then proceed as usual?09:04
Davey|Workanyone have an S3 (Unichrome?) onboard video card working in Ubuntu?09:04
gormhi ! i would like esd not to start when i boot, because i have to kill it manually each time, to have the sound working09:05
Heimdallhellooo rooom09:05
lynxhi09:05
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gormwhat should i modify ?09:05
MorphDKHey.. Anybody got NetworkManager to work in Ubuntu?09:05
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pipatrongorm: If I recall correctly there is a chapter about that on www.ubuntuguide.com09:05
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pipatrongorm: or .org or .net or whatever :)09:05
IceDC571pipatron is correct, theres a howto on getting your sound to work right09:06
IceDC571and it has information on killing esd too09:06
biffurtquick question: how do I determine what version of XFree86 is on here? I'm running Hoary, if that tells you anything.09:06
SliderManIceDC571, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/26109:06
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Spugwhy don't people know military time? it's like, used in every country but usa or something09:06
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murphyok, how do I stop X?09:06
IceDC571Spug: thats what i thought09:06
murphyI mean, exit the X server?09:07
gormok i'll check it ! thanks !09:07
naliothSpug: i'm in Texas and i use military time09:07
jgoguenSpug: more like north america, hardly anyone in Canada has a clue what it is -_-09:07
jgoguenmurphy: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop09:07
doonzhuh09:08
IceDC571SliderMan: do you have java installed?09:08
|Kabuto|how do I tell nvidia-kernel-source make where my kernel source is? the README doesn't say anything useful09:08
murphythanks09:08
doonzjgoguen speak for yourself09:08
radehelpers: ok, i finally got my Atmel chipset based usb wlan adapter working, thanks to http://at76c503a.berlios.de/  ... i just wanted to let you know in case you ever need to help anyone out in the future with a similar problem... bob2 and Seveas, thank you very much, bye09:08
som1for some reason, when i insert the cd to its place (yeah, in the drive) and it doesnt try to install. i know its a bios problem (crashfree 2.0) but i wondered if any of you know a solution to it (other than updating bios)09:08
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Spugnalioth: okay, then even fewer use am/pm09:08
Heimdallwhat's not correct in : if [$i == 0.2] 09:08
jgoguendoonz: I use military time personally, it's easier for me to understand09:08
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ompaulSpug, well how about is it now 20:08 according to ntp09:09
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biffurtanyone? how can I find out what version of X is running?09:09
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MorphDKSpug, military time - do you mean committee?09:09
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Spugi mean 24-hour format09:09
jgoguenbiffurt: X -version09:09
pipatron8PM -> 20:0009:09
SliderManIceDC571, no i havent java09:09
biffurtthanks09:09
MorphDK:S09:09
jgoguennp09:09
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IceDC571SliderMan: try to install java, it might fix the problem09:10
|Kabuto|guys, how do I tell nvidia-kernel-source make where my kernel source is? the README doesn't say anything useful09:10
MorphDKSpug, heh, in Denmark we use 24h time all the time :D09:10
som1|kabuto| use the ubuntu packages09:10
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SpugMorphDK: in norway too ;)09:10
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pipatronThat's just not true :P09:10
^rob^Any suggestions on a web frontend for gstreamer which will let me search my media, downsample it on the fly, and serve it out so I can listen to stuff thats at encode rates that are too high to squeeze across my cable connection?09:10
Rockett17for most times in UK too :)09:10
som1whats military about 24h?09:10
Spugit's used in the us military09:10
|Kabuto|som1: I apt-get'd the nvidia-kernel-source09:10
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SliderMan:)09:10
c_rodgehow can i watch dvds in ubuntu 4.1009:10
|Kabuto|it's not tarball09:10
som1|kabuto| get the nvidia-gkx too09:11
som1glx*09:11
c_rodgedvds in ubuntu 4.1009:11
ompaulsom1, military time is really 0100 for 1:00 as we humans call it09:11
SliderManIceDC571, rpm or linux?09:11
Rockett17it's a north american thing (im british and in canada) and had never heard 24hr time referred to as military.. i didnt even know what someone was talking about when they first said it to me09:11
naliothsom1: it keeps dumb soldiers from showing up to dinner at 5 in the morning09:11
c_rodgehow can i watch dvds in ubuntu 4.1009:11
|Kabuto|som1: is that a tool to automate things?09:11
pipatronc_rodge: Eh09:11
pipatronc_rodge: Stop repeating09:11
som1|kabuto| well, you still have to edit the X config and modules09:11
pipatronc_rodge: No one will help you if you annoy them.09:11
ompaulsom1, and 2000 is 20:00 for military09:11
c_rodgewell i wouldnt repeat if someone could helpo me09:11
|Kabuto|som1: I edited the xorg.conf09:12
som1oh, so thats why they say our sports teacher is thinks shes still in the army.09:12
jgoguenc_rodge: do you have libdvdcss installed09:12
IceDC571SliderMan: sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.509:12
som1|kabuto| sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx09:12
zenlunaticwhats a name of the gnome bittorrent client built in?09:12
c_rodgeim pretty sure i do09:12
naliothc_rodge: if anyone knows the answer to your ??, they will speak up09:12
som1|kabuto| and edit /etc/modules09:12
pipatronc_rodge: So? If no one can help you the first time no one will help you the second time09:12
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som1|kabuto| its on the nvidia readme too09:12
naliothc_rodge: if not, give your question a few minutes 'tween askings09:12
MorphDKc_rodge, http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#dvdplayback09:12
naliothzenlunatic: gnome-bittorrent09:12
som1for some reason, when i insert the cd to its place (yeah, in the drive) it doesnt try to install. i know its a bios problem (crashfree 2.0) but i wondered if any of you know a solution to it (other than updating bios)09:12
jgoguenc_rodge: what's your media player, Totem and MPlayer should work fine then09:12
Sodkihello! anyone from london wants to give me some vacation advice?09:13
c_rodgeits totem09:13
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ompaulSodki, go to Dublin :)09:13
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c_rodgeyeah i have installed that09:13
SliderManIceDC571, E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.509:13
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ompaulSodki, get a lonely planet guide book and you will get a feel for the place09:14
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nalioths_dogSliderMan: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 09:14
jgoguenc_rodge: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 mplayer-68609:15
Sodkiompaul, thanks :-)09:15
zenlunaticare ubuntu package details available on the net somewhere?09:15
naliothzenlunatic: packages.ubuntu.com09:15
ompaulSodki, without knowing lots about you I can say that one thing you should to there is catch at least one show in the west end and spend a day hanging around Covent garden some very good street entertainment09:15
jgoguenc_rodge: once that's done, make sure /dev/dvd exists, symlink to your DVD device if needed, then say mplayer dvd://09:15
biffurtok, is there a difference between X and XFree86? I'm trying to find out which driver I need for my S3 savage card09:16
c_rodgeok09:16
biffurtAnd I found a driver for XFree8609:16
jgoguenc_rodge: if that doesn't work /msg me with the errors and I'll make an attempt from there09:16
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biffurtBut I need to know which driver to get - there's different versions for 4.4, 4.3, and 4.209:17
BoD_SWATI need to add a program to my startup programs. Where can I do this?09:17
biffurtBut X -version tells me it's version 6.8.209:17
AlekHi, I have configurated the boot file..., and now is Windows XP not there any more....:(09:17
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ompaulBoD_SWAT,  if they do not add automagically you should consider an application that you can get from sourceforge called smeg09:18
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhow to install 3Dwm?09:18
johow to instal v4l1 ???????????09:18
join stad of v4l209:18
BoD_SWATompaul, I'm adding Eterm to have a spiffy desktop. In the howto it says: "Also, you need to add Eterm to your startup programs. It could look something like this:". Is there a config file somewhere?09:19
lsuactiafneri rock.. my desktop looks cooler than ice ice ice!!09:19
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joandt wy i doint get xawtv on urbuntu?09:19
lsuactiafneri have the_white_stripes_-_i_just_dont_know_what_to_do_with_myself.mpeg playin as my desktop 'background' / animated background09:19
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BoD_SWATlsuactiafner, where can I find the howto?09:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYdoes anyone know how to install the new 3d desktop?09:20
biffurtis there a difference between X and XFree86? I'm trying to find out which driver I need for my S3 savage card. I've got a driver for XFree86 4.4, 4.3, or 4.2. But X -version tells me I'm running version 6.8.209:21
Rockett17<lsuactiafner> VLC?09:21
biffurtcan anyone give me a hand? I'm clueless with this OS. =/09:21
AlekAny one who can help me with boot file???09:21
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BoD_SWATompaul, It needs to be launched on start or something. Have a look-see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36811&highlight=devilspie09:22
Panzerboyany idea, are there any issues with the mirrormax repos?09:22
Panzerboyi just added them to the sources.list09:22
BoD_SWATPanzerboy, no issues here09:22
unomePanzerboy: works fine here. what error you get?09:23
Panzerboyand now the apt-get update is stalled at Ign http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/restricted Packages09:23
Panzerboy99% [Waiting for headers] 09:23
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Panzerboyjust stalled09:23
|Kabuto|I downloaded nvidia-glx too. now what?09:23
Panzerboystays there09:23
lsuactiafnerBoD_SWAT : no howto, but just run the command nice -n 20 mplayer movie.avi -fs -rootwin -loop 0 -nosound -hardframedrop -lavdopts lowres=1 -vfm ffmpeg <-- command is such that it uses about 1% of my AMD64 3200+ cpu09:23
Panzerboyand nowthing happens09:23
BoD_SWATAlek, what is exactly your program? DId you config your menu.lst correctly?09:23
AlekBoS_SWAT, it is grub..., i configurated the file: moved xp to the top09:23
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Alekbod_swat, but now is xp gone :(09:24
|Kabuto|guys, I downloaded nvidia-glx too. now what?09:24
Panzerboyany idea what can be wrong?09:24
unome!backports09:24
ubotubackports is probably http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/09:24
Rockett17did someone say XP in a Ubuntu channel... the devilsOS!!! :p only kidding :p09:24
unomePanzerboy: find another repo09:24
|Kabuto|M$09:25
Panzerboyhmm09:25
BoD_SWATAlek, gone from the menu you mean? Then you configured something wrong. With me XP is always the second choice, and Ubuntu is the first09:25
BockBilboSeveas, u still there?09:25
ompaulAlek, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ put your /boot/grub/menu.lst in that pastebin09:26
BockBilboi have done what u said in win.. and i still cannot write on the hd09:26
BockBilbo:(09:26
BoD_SWATAlek, did you use title, rootnoverify, makeactive and chainloader +1 ?09:26
BoD_SWATwhat's the problem with XP being the 2nd or 3rd choice? ;-)09:27
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Alekbot_swat, I moved the xp thing to the top of file..., it was the 4.choice or somethimg09:28
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hugosHi! I have Firefox 1.02 installed and I want to upgrade it! How can I do that without installing from the source. It's not on the repositories.. at least I cant find it.09:28
Alekbot_swar, nothing.., but will has it first so i can turn on pc withous sitting here09:28
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i3dmastermy screen is stuck at 640x480 after I removed libesd0 and installed libesd-alsa0... Anyone knows how to fix it.09:29
jgoguenhugos: it's in the backports repos, you need to get them first09:29
BoD_SWATAlek, XP is 2nd choice at my place, so I can't help you there (works fine here)09:29
|Kabuto|guys, I'm trying to install nvidia module. I apt-get'd nvidia-kernel-source and nvidia-glx too. now what?09:29
Alekompaul, here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/26309:29
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justin|Kabuto|: remove nvidia-kernel-source and install the linux-restricted-modules package for your kernel09:30
Alekompaul, it is the file now..., xp is missing09:30
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hugosjgoguen, how can I find the backports? :D09:30
fivreHow do I set GnomeTerminal to load x profile always with a certain window dimension and placement09:31
fivre?09:31
BoD_SWATAlek, just add Windows XP manually!09:31
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SpugI second fivre's question09:31
naliothhugos: only use backports for the specific program you want, then disable them (this prevents future system incompatibliitys)09:31
nalioth!backports09:32
ubotuI heard backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/09:32
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Alekbod_swat, ok but how....?09:32
bluetHi all09:32
BoD_SWATuse gedit?09:32
BoD_SWATor vim09:32
Alekbod_swat, and how can i get it to be there....?09:33
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turidJust installed Ubuntu. How to play MP3?09:33
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bluetMy WLAN adapter (an Int09:33
jgoguenturid: http://www.ubuntuguide.org09:34
bluet...el one) doesn'y fucktion09:34
nalioths_dogturid: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support09:34
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|Kabuto|turid: sudo apt-get install gstreamer-0.8-mad09:34
nalioths_dogjgoguen, please don't recommend ubuntuguide09:34
|Kabuto|brb09:34
BoD_SWATAlek, use your fingers on your keyboard and type the stuff. I'll give you my example.   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/26509:34
BoD_SWATAlek, you just need to know what hd and partition is on (the "hd0,0" part of the code)09:35
naliothjgoguen: please read number 3 >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines09:35
topylifivre: in edit -> profiles you can choose the default profile09:35
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bluetMy WLAN adapter doesn't work09:35
Spugtopyli: but how can you set window placement and dimension in a gnome-terminal profile?09:35
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jpaixaohello09:35
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jpaixaoI need some help09:36
Alekbod_swat, will it be there after? last time did it go away...09:36
topyliSpug: you don't. you specify the X geometry on the command line09:36
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Spugaha09:36
BoD_SWATdid you get an kernel update? Just make a menu.lst.backup file or something09:36
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jpaixaoi looked in the foruns but i didn-t  found an answer to my problem09:36
fivrehow do you do that, and can it be done automatically?09:36
jpaixaosometimes,my mouse becomes slow and not very precise09:37
bluetOkey, GRUB doesn't install _and_ WLAN doesn't work09:37
naliothSpug: set the dimensions in your .bashrc09:37
Spugnalioth: okay, thanks a lot09:37
jpaixaoi'm not the only one with this problem, but no one seems to be able to solve it09:37
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jpaixaoi'd apreciated if some one could help me09:38
fivrewhere is .bashrc?09:38
jpaixaotks anyway ;)09:38
naliothfivre: in your home directory09:38
naliothfivre: it is an 'invisible' file (it has a dot in front of it)09:38
Kyraljpaixao: Wireless Mouse? Optical Mouse?09:38
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jpaixaowired mouse09:39
jpaixaooptical09:39
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jpaixaoi have a laptop and my tochpad mouse works perfectly, even when the wired mouse flips!!09:39
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bluetI have a laptop too, but my problem is that the WLAN adapter doesn't work09:40
Kyraljpaixao: Try cleaning it?09:40
jpaixaoit's clean09:41
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i3dmastercan anyone help me figure out why my screen is stuck at 640x480? out of mind already...09:41
jpaixaoi use it in another OS and it has no problem09:41
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Rockett17is there any widgets for superkaramba to display a terminal on the desktop?09:41
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sascha_hi, what is the best way to install kmuddy? I can use source, mandrake or Suse rpm. no deb files09:42
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lsuactiafner!resolution09:42
ubotuit has been said that resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:42
jpaixaoif i more processes i have running, the slower the mouse gets09:42
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lsuactiafneri3dmaster : <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:42
socommsascha_: You can try installing the rpm version via alien.09:42
bluet!wlan09:42
ubotubluet: Wish i knew09:42
bluet!wifi09:42
ubotumethinks wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto09:42
socomm!alien09:43
kimois there a libcompat pkg with old libstdc stuff09:43
ubotuWish i knew, socomm09:43
BockBilboanyone has an idea of why ubuntu says i dont have space in a external 40GB HD with vfat format, when i really have like 6 Gigas free?09:43
BockBilbo:S09:43
sascha_socomm, mandrake or SuSE?09:43
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i3dmasterlsuactiaf: ok I will try to look at it first.09:43
ooI am having some annoying problems with getting mplayer-586 from nerim.net installed.. backports.ubuntuforums.org won't talk to me either. Any hints?09:43
socommsascha_: Either one should be fine, provided you got all the right libs in place.09:43
andre__do i have to pay for cedega?09:43
ooIt wants another libc6 and some other stuff09:43
sascha_socomm, thanks...09:43
familywhat is a good lightweight file browser that is user friendly for xfce?09:43
lsuactiafnerBockBilbo : mount as vfat32 not just vfat09:43
socommubotu: alien is http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/09:43
ubotusocomm: okay09:44
BockBilbolsuactiafner, but, until know its been ok using vfat09:44
kimofamily rox09:44
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naliothoo: remove nerim.net and backports from your sources list09:44
Rockett17family> i would suggest rox09:44
BockBilboperhaps i think that vfat32 doesnt exist09:44
Rockett17family> it's a bit weird to get used to, but it rocks09:45
socommfamily is gone.09:45
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lsuactiafnercheckin quick brb09:45
odie5533Rockett17 I was family09:45
SleepyEyeNewbie here...whats the difference between "hoary" and "breezy"?  Is it breezy = unstable or testing?09:45
odie5533this is a family pc ;)09:45
hugosnalioth, Failed to fetch http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Could not connect to backports.ubuntuforums.org:80 (69.46.19.12). - connect (111 Connection refused)09:45
odie5533I need a file browser that is user friendly09:45
BockBilboperhaps i think that vfat32 doesnt exist09:45
odie5533highly09:45
naliothSleepyEye: correct, breezy is quite a challengs atm09:45
lsuactiafnerbreezy got gass..09:45
cyphase_what's the best server managing utility, if there is such a thing09:45
cyphase_:)09:45
BockBilbosorry for the double message :S09:45
socommBreezy is the development version, not recommended for day to day use.09:45
naliothhugos: do not use backports09:45
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naliothhugos: do not use ubuntuguide09:46
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hugosnalioth, I need to get firefox 1.0409:46
nalioths_doghugos: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support09:46
resiakhugos: Why?09:46
oonalioth, ok  - cool. I am just so used to using nerim.net. But w32codecs ?09:46
socommHoary is the current "stable" incarnation of Ubuntu, alot more suited for end users than breezy.09:46
naliothhugos: get it from mozilla.org09:46
lsuactiafnerseems there is only 1 vfat module09:46
naliothoo: www.mplayerhq.hu  and download the 'essential package'09:46
lsuactiafnerno idea then..09:47
hugosnalioth, but why do advice me not to use backports for firefox upgrade?09:47
naliothoo: there are instructions there on where to put them09:47
resiakhugos: Why do you _need_ 1.0.4?09:47
socomm!rox09:47
ubotusocomm: I don't know09:47
lsuactiafneri prefer all- since its only a few mb bigger and you might need it09:47
naliothhugos: the firefox available to you now, has the security updates from 1.0.4 in it09:47
hugosresiak, I want to install some extensions09:47
catchhi all, I'm trying to install user-mode-linux, it's a virtual package, however a web search of the archive has the .deb file in the universe (I have universe in my sources.list) does any one know why it's virtual not real? (I'm running hoary)09:47
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naliothhugos: are you having trouble accessing the firefox widget page?09:47
Rockett17 /usr/lib/win32 is usually where the w32codecs go09:47
resiakhugos: You can trick them.09:47
lsuactiafnerbecuase 1.0.4 allows for new plugins without changing the version in about:config09:47
oonalioth, yeah - but as long as my Linux system actually _has_ a package manager i'd rather like to use it...09:47
oo:)09:47
pinkoI swear, every time I come in here someone is asking about firefox 1.0.409:47
oonalioth, but thanks a lot! :)09:48
goldfishpinko: indeed09:48
naliothoo using unofficial repos WILL lead to system breakage09:48
naliothoo: we see it all the time in ehre09:48
hugosresiak, how?09:48
pinkoIf I ever need that knowledge I will be more than ready.09:48
socommubotu: rox is http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/09:48
ubotuokay, socomm09:48
resiakhugos: Google it.09:48
hugosnalioth, yes09:48
resiakWho owns ubotu?09:48
naliothhugos: open your firefox, place "about:config" in the address bar09:48
hugosresiak, thanks, but I already changed the version string and it doesnt work09:49
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naliothhugos: search the resulting page for "vendorsub". on the same line, change 1.0.2 to 1.0.409:49
oonalioth, Debian Sid also leads to breakage, but you are of course correct.09:49
Rockett17nalioth> hahaha09:49
catchresiak: mark shuttleworth's company09:49
Rockett17nice :)09:49
naliothoo: i dont know anything about sid or nancy09:49
resiakcatch: That's 100% unhelpful, and you don't even know Canonical's name?09:49
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timtuxWhat is wrong?09:50
catchresiak : not off the top of my head, but you obviously do ;)09:50
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naliothresiak: i know who owns ubotu, just cant think of the nick atm09:50
odie5533how do I check hdd usage in a terminal?09:50
resiaknalioth: bob2?09:50
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catchnow does anyone know about the user-mode-linux issue I'm having?09:50
socommodie5533: df -h09:50
naliothresiak: lets not play 20 ??s right now, but no09:50
resiakcatch: Hell, I saw everyone's favourite spaceman in the flesh two days ago :)09:50
resiaknalioth: Heh09:50
Rockett17aight time to go home09:50
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Rockett17enough work09:51
djm62!owner09:51
ubotudjm62: I haven't a clue09:51
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lsuactiafnerresiak : jetsons?09:51
lsuactiafnerhehehe09:51
resiakdjm62: I've already prodded it extensively in /msg09:51
resiaklsuactiafner: Heh09:51
hugosnalioth, thanks, it worked09:51
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lsuactiafneranyone know of a good website where i can look @ home modded pc cases?09:52
naliothnp09:52
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cyphase_12:51:35 up 49 days,  7:26,  3 users,  load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.0009:52
lsuactiafnercyphase_ : running fah@home or seti?09:52
unomelsuactiafner: hardforum09:52
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timtuxWhat the hell is wrong?09:52
timtuxConfiguring apt..09:52
timtux25%09:52
timtuxSetting up primary installation repository...09:52
timtuxFor an hour now! I have tried to restart the installation, but that dosent help.09:52
timtuxWhat does that stage do? Do i need internet connection while i do it?09:52
timtuxIve got an 10/10 connection and using a router (dlink 604)09:52
lsuactiafnerthanks unome09:53
unomenp09:53
i3dmasterI went the wiki and looked the HowTo, and it did not help for my case.09:53
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i3dmastermy xorg.conf should be no problem cause it did not get changed after I installed the libesd-alsa0. I am thinking something broken when I was off loading the libesd pkg but not sure where...09:54
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lsuactiafneri3dmaster : edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf look for a line called modes, edit it, then press  control alt backspace and dont panic09:55
andersbrDumb question:  How do I find out what sort of NIC card I have without opening the box?09:55
Nerulllol09:55
socomm...09:55
unomeandersbr: sudo lshw09:55
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goldfishlspci09:56
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rezzcobainIm having trouble with 3d graphics, I thought I installed the drivers for my video card, but im new to linux, can anyone help me out?09:56
naliothandersbr: open a terminal and type "lspci"09:56
timtuxSeems like noone can help me, soon i will take out the fucking cd and broke it off.09:56
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goldfishrezzcobain: what card you got?09:56
rezzcobainRadeon 980009:56
Nerulltry lspci  m809:56
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naliothtimtux: someone can help you if they know/experienced what you are referring to09:57
i3dmasterIsuactiaf: that was as the same as before, and I tried to edit it to some other values but it wouldn't take any changes.09:57
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naliothtimtux: in nobody here knows, do you want them making something up?09:57
i3dmastergnome seems only seeing the 640x480@6009:57
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BoD_SWAThow can I use 'ls' and see the dir per 'page' (when I have a small terminal window?)09:57
Nerullman ls09:57
andersbrThanks.  I'm only getting 10Mbps on my network,  and I'm trying to figure out where the bottleneck is.09:57
NerullOr ls --help09:58
goldfishi3dmaster: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'09:58
djm62BoD_SWAT: or ls | less09:58
goldfishi3dmaster: instead of editing it manually09:58
naliothBoD_SWAT: use a pipe | and then less as in "ls | less09:58
i3dmastergoldfish: did that, wouldn't help09:58
nalioth"09:58
NerullYou can use ls | more aswell09:58
goldfishi3dmaster: ahhh09:58
goldfish:/09:58
goldfishless is more !09:58
rezzcobaingoldfish: ATI Radeon 980009:58
unometrue09:58
Nerull:)09:58
goldfishrezzcobain: whats up, crappy resolution?09:59
BoD_SWATdjm62, nalioth thnx guys :D09:59
lsuactiafneri3dmaster : if desperate run xorgconf09:59
i3dmastergoldfish, I chose to reconfigure it at the first time, since it did not solve the problem, then I went to manually tweak it09:59
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goldfishi3dmaster: ah , i see.09:59
rezzcobainslow rendering09:59
goldfishhmmm09:59
lsuactiafneri3dmaster : press control alt + and -09:59
goldfishjeez, im not sure, dont have ati myself.09:59
naliothi3dmaster: you can also choose VESA as your driver09:59
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lsuactiafnerand remember your towel.. trust me09:59
bradehello all...again09:59
timtuxIm using an acer aspire 1362WLC (laptop).09:59
lsuactiafneri think xorg.conf his first line is 640 and he hasnt tried control alt + -09:59
NerullSo today i got my free-shipped cd's for ubuntu but does it have the same apt system like debian do ?09:59
naliothi3dmaster: lots of ati users have trouble, VESA as a driver will give you many res options09:59
timtuxand those shit hang09:59
i3dmasterhmm... ok, doesn't sound very good huh...10:00
naliothi3dmaster: watch ubotu10:00
nalioth!fixres10:00
ubotufixres is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:00
goldfishngd_: of course.10:00
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goldfishNerull: Of course.10:00
pipatronNerull: Same kind of system, different sources.10:00
i3dmasterubotu: looked that already10:00
ubotuI haven't a clue, i3dmaster10:00
goldfishngd_: sorry mistab.10:00
timtuxUnder the setup:10:00
timtuxConfiguring apt..10:00
timtux25%10:00
timtuxSetting up primary installation repository...10:00
NerullDiff sources what do you mean by that ?10:00
timtuxhow long can that take?10:00
socommNerull: Different repos.10:00
Seveastimtux, try disabling network downloads during install10:00
NerullLike i cant use my isp apt-mirror ? :S10:00
naliothtimtux: it shouldnt 'hang' at all, should take a few minutes max10:00
lsuactiafneri3dmaster : did you try control alt +  and -10:01
Seveasit seems to have a problem with connecting the network10:01
socommtimtux: Depends on your hardware.10:01
i3dmasternalioth: I will probably try to use vesa...10:01
i3dmasterlsuactiaf, ok, let me try it...10:01
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andersbrNow an obscure question:  Does anyone know if the 3c59x driver supports 100Mbps?  I believe the 3c509 cards themselves were 10Mbps only.10:01
pipatronNerull: Not if you want a true ubuntu system, no10:01
timtuxSeveas how?10:01
justinandersbr: 3c509 cards are ISA10:01
timtuxnalioth, not for me.10:02
justinandersbr: read the output of dmesg and mii-tool/mii-diag if your card has mii stuff10:02
pipatronNerull: But your ISP should set up some caching proxy instead10:02
Nerullpipatron so what are the main diffs between debian and ubuntu =10:02
Nerull?10:02
bradequestion:  i installed xfce and i decided that i dont care for it much.  i want to get rid of it.  so i started synaptic and found it under 'installed'.  im i corrent in my understanding that in am going to have to manually select every xfce instance?10:02
pipatronNerull: Ubuntu works ;)10:02
timtuxsocomm, brand new comp, amd semperon 2800+, 512mb RAM10:02
pipatronNerull: *if* you stick to the ubuntu packages.10:02
Nerullpipatron lol @ u10:02
socommtimtux: Try Seveas suggestion.10:02
timtuxAnd i asked, how to disable that?10:03
socommtimtux: Poke around a bit, you should have no problems finding the option.10:03
andersbrjustin:  I know.  The card itself is a 3c905 100BaseTX.  But the driver listed is 3c59x.10:03
NerullI'll try it on my new server-box maybe i can use it on my workstation if i like it better then debian :)10:03
naliothtimtux: do as Seveas suggested and disable networking during the install10:03
pipatronNerull: DO the other way around10:03
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pipatronNerull: Ubuntu is targeted to desktops10:03
timtuxnalioth, how do i disable netwoking?10:03
naliothtimtux: unplug your network cable10:03
Seveastimtux, the installer will ask whether you want to download or not10:03
justinandersbr: 59x is not 509, its 905. blame 3com for stupid numbering10:04
d4rksh4dewhich file to download  .tar.bz2    or   .tar.gz   ?10:04
goldfishlol10:04
i3dmasterlsuactiaf: well, I think its a good sign, I can change the resolution now, but my screen is splited into like 4 or 5 picecs..10:04
Nerullpipatron i will :)10:04
pipatroni3dmaster: Physically?10:04
goldfishd4rksh4de: no difference reallky, what is it?10:04
naliothi3dmaster: vesa will help you10:04
Seveasand unplugging thr network cable might be a good idea too10:04
andersbrjustin:  You think the driver should be fine,  then?10:04
justinandersbr: yes, read the output of dmesg and mii-tool/mii-diag if your card has mii stuff10:04
Nerull!iptables10:04
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Nerull10:04
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Nerulllol10:04
timtuxSerius, ubuntu is harder to insatll then Gentoo...10:04
goldfisheh10:04
d4rksh4degoldfish> gtkmm-2.6.3.tar.gz  is bigger10:04
goldfishno it's not :)10:04
i3dmasterpipatron: sometime I wish... :-) but I will do a reboot and see how it goes, otherwise, I will try vesa..10:04
justinand the 905 supports mii, so it will tell you what the link is running at10:04
NerullTry the slackware/debian install timtux ;)10:05
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BockBilbonye10:05
Seveastimtux, sure...10:05
naliothNerull: iptables? you mean like this stuff? http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13010:05
goldfishgentoo is harder tbh10:05
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goldfishd4rksh4de: k, well, the smaller one so. :)10:05
SeveasJust because *your system* has problems with the installer doesn't mean that Ubuntu is harder to install...10:05
Nerullnalioth thanks m810:05
pipatrontimtux: You're smoking too much crack.. Nothing is easier to install than ubuntu10:05
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Nerulllol10:05
Seveaspipatron, keep it nice please..10:05
KyralYah! My laptop hates Ubuntu (and most other distros for that matter :D)10:05
NerullKyral: And you hate Windows right ?10:06
socommKyral: Blame wintel, not GNU/Linux.10:06
SeveasKyral, get a new laptop ;)10:06
naliothwell, back to work10:06
virtualdSeveas: crack is nice10:06
Nerulllol10:06
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timtuxNerull, they are easy. My first distro was slackware 8.1 ;D10:06
d4rksh4degoldfish> can the packing rate be so big   one is 3.7 MB other is 5.7 MB  ?10:06
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goldfishd4rksh4de: to unzip the bz2 one, tar xvjf blah.tar.bz210:06
KyralNerull, yes, I hate XP :D10:06
nalioth_wrknvirtuald: yes, the crack in a beatiful womans10:06
bradei know alot of people have questions so i'll just post this again ;) question:  i installed xfce and i decided that i dont care for it much.  i want to get rid of it.  so i started synaptic and found it under 'installed'.  im i corrent in my understanding that in am going to have to manually select every xfce instance (dependency?)?10:06
virtuald:)10:07
Seveasnalioth_wrkn, lol!10:07
goldfishd4rksh4de: hmmm, not sure really, it must be :)10:07
NerullKyral: You can get a beer from me anytime m8 :)10:07
pipatronnalioth_wrkn: http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html10:07
nalioth_wrknbrade: thre aren't that many 'instances'10:07
Seveasbrade, install debfoster and read its manual :)10:07
goldfishbrade: sudo apt-get remove xfce4 --purge10:07
Seveasdebfoster is escellent at removing unneeded dependencies10:07
KyralI'm going to my aunts house and bringing an Ubuntu LIVE CD so I can check my email without going into XP :D10:07
goldfishgah, ignore me.10:07
Nerullkyral use SSH :)10:08
Seveasgoldfish, that will not remove unneeded dependencies :)10:08
nalioth_wrknKyral: take an install cd, also, save granny the virus fight10:08
bradethanks everyone...im slowly getting the hang of it...slowly10:08
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KyralNerull: Nah, I'm gonna take this chance to show them Ubuntu as well :D10:08
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NerullKyral: Please dont make some old people use GNU/Linux :)10:08
KyralAlthough I only have a Kubuntu Live and an Ubuntu Install10:08
NerullThey got like millions of questions the next time you come around :P10:09
KyralNerull: The husband of my aunt uses OS X, so I have faith :D10:09
nalioth_wrknpipatron: but i do sit drooling over this kb, waiting for questions10:09
NerullOw mkay :O10:09
Kyralick,.... KDE....10:09
goldfishfluxbox !10:09
KyralIs there anyway to take a snapshot of your current system and use it to make a LiveCD?10:09
Seveaskyral, sort of, you can see installed packages with dpkg --get-selections and remaster the LiveCD to include these packages (and your homedir)10:10
bradekyral:  good question...10:10
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KyralSeveas: Got a tutorial for that? :D10:11
d4rksh4degoldfish> is it better to get stuff from synaptic or manually install them?10:11
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SliderManwhy i cant open sources.list ?10:12
bradeoh hey, i just realized that ubuntu has a native 'add/remove programs' utility10:12
Kyralneed sudo to :D10:12
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SliderManit loading me some blank txt file :-10:12
SeveasKyral, on the wiki10:13
edgecaseanyone know what kernel is on hoary 5.04 live-cd?10:13
KyralSliderMan, are you opening /etc/sources.list?10:13
Kyralerr10:13
Seveas/etc/apt/sources.list :)10:13
Kyral/etc/apt/sources.list10:13
SliderManits not on /ect/apt?10:13
bradeedgecase:  im new to this but i think its 2.610:14
edgecasei know, but 2.6.?10:14
SliderMangedit /ect/apt/sources.list oppenig some blamk file :-10:14
SliderManblank :-10:14
Seveas2.6.1010:14
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KyralWTF10:14
edgecaseno promise SATA 150 II TX4 then10:14
edgecasethx10:14
KyralHow the FSCK am I supposed to have 2-3 GBs of SWAP10:14
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SliderMansomeone have ideas/10:15
SliderMan?10:15
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Kyralehehehe10:15
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KyralI have 1.4 GB of Swap :D10:16
castobviously since /ect doesnt exist SliderMan10:16
SliderMan1.2 GB of Swap :d10:16
casti have no swap :D10:16
Kyraloh, there is this thing :D10:16
SliderMani cant understad what not exist?10:16
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d4rksh4deanyone have experience with gtkmm ?10:17
castwhat does ls /ect/apt/sources.list say?10:17
goldfishno point having 1.4 gig swap partition10:17
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goldfishyou're better off splitting it up into smaller partitions10:17
djm62unless you're doing serious serious linear algebra, shurely?10:17
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casteven 10000 simultanious questions will only take up 20 megs or so10:19
timtuxWtf, if i not having the networkcable inplugged when i trying to install ubuntu it says it dosent have any mirror to install from...10:19
castyou might need the 1.4gig for dealing with large images10:19
SliderMancast, i have a /ect dir and when i open it from there its opened readonly10:19
SliderManwhat is swap anyway?10:19
djm62cast: I was thinking astronomical data, or even seismics at a decent resolution10:20
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SliderMani want to do 777 to sources.list10:20
SeveasSliderMan, DO NOT do that...10:20
djm62s.10:20
timtuxThen do it?10:20
timtux;>10:20
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Seveasthat's so asking for problems..10:20
djm62SliderMan: no need to do that, and it's bad hygeine10:20
goldfishindeed10:20
casthmm, i have no experience with that :(10:21
timtuxchmod =D10:21
djm62hygiene, even10:21
SliderManso how can i edit the file?10:21
goldfishSliderMan: using sudo10:21
SeveasSliderMan, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:21
djm62SliderMan: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:21
SeveasIf it is blank, it is empty, but that would be weird10:21
SliderManohhh thanks!10:21
SeveasSliderMan, can you paste the output of 'ls -al /etc/apt' on the pastebin please10:21
SliderManmoshe@SerVer:~$ ls -al /etc/apt10:22
SliderMantotal 3210:22
SliderMandrwxr-xr-x   3 root root 4096 2005-06-27 23:22 .10:22
SliderMandrwxr-xr-x  97 root root 4096 2005-06-27 23:01 ..10:22
SliderMandrwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4096 2005-06-27 19:59 apt.conf.d10:22
SliderMan-rw-------   1 root root    0 2005-06-27 19:40 secring.gpg10:22
SliderMan-rw-r--r--   1 root root 1228 2005-06-27 23:22 sources.list10:22
SliderMan-rw-r--r--   1 root root 1238 2005-06-27 19:46 sources.list~10:22
SliderMan-rw-------   1 root root 1200 2005-06-27 19:40 trustdb.gpg10:22
SliderMan-rw-r--r--   1 root root 2381 2005-06-27 19:40 trusted.gpg10:22
SliderMan-rw-r--r--   1 root root 1724 2005-06-27 19:39 trusted.gpg~10:22
SliderManmoshe@SerVer:~$10:22
SliderManwhy?10:22
jbroomethis isn't the pastebin10:23
SliderManwhat is pastebin?10:23
jbroomehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:23
resiakSliderMan: /topic10:23
SirGirSliderMan, read the topic10:23
castuh, why is there a keyring in /etc/apt?10:24
topylianyway sources.list is there10:24
SliderMan:)10:24
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topyliit has even been edited :)10:24
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kwilcox-afkis it possible to change the file system in the installer to Reiser?10:26
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somelusermy java runtime is broken and won't run azureus10:27
somelusercan anyone help?10:27
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johoe to look for older packets i wont to rm gnomeeting andt istla older one?10:27
pibarnasHey people, my Ubuntu Hoary's supermount stops working suddenly... does somethng similar happened to anyone here?10:27
budluvasomeluser, tried reinstalling java?10:27
someluseryes10:28
budluvaand azureus?10:28
someluseryes10:28
someluserazureus only has a bzip file10:28
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someluserno .deb10:28
KING^^^hello ...10:28
KING^^^i have problems starting my ssh10:28
budluvasomeluser, check the starter guide, shows you how to install azureus via apt10:29
pibarnasI've done a /etc/init.d/dbus-1 but nothings happens...10:29
someluserwhere is it?10:29
KING^^^can anyone help me ?10:29
budluvasomeluser, check your azureus logs aswell /home/USER/.azureus/logs10:29
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kwilcox-afkhttp://ubuntuguide.org/10:29
pibarnasI have to access cdrom and cdrw "by hand".10:29
KING^^^/etc/init.d/ssh start10:29
KING^^^Lying  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...10:29
KING^^^Lying Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key10:29
KING^^^Lying Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key10:29
KING^^^Lying Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key10:29
KING^^^Lying  *hd: no hostkeys available -- exiting.10:29
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KING^^^what should i have to do /10:30
imaginohi there! Here's Michele...a new Ubuntu user. Just wanted to sit here and watch your conversation...maybe I can catch some of your secrets! :D10:30
timtuxim gonna try an own connecion10:30
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timtuxanother connection*10:31
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unomeimagino: hi, sit next to me if you got some diet pepsi10:31
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kwilcoxKing: I can successully SSH into your IP10:31
pestilencedoes anyone here use mplayerplug-in to watch clips on comedycentral.com?  it used to work for me, but now all i get is audio (no video).  i've tried 2.8, 2.85 and cvs, they all don't work.  any ideas?10:31
justinKING^^^: purge and reinstall the openssh-server package10:31
someluserbudluva; the guide says to apt-get install azureus, but it does not show10:32
justinKING^^^: then, do nothing, as it already will start automatically10:32
budluvasomeluser, sudo apt-get install azureus10:32
budluvasomeluser, run that command in your terminal10:32
someluserit can't find it10:32
budluva???10:32
budluvadid you read the guide?10:32
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someluserapt says no10:32
budluvashows you how to add repositories10:32
pestilencefor example10:32
pestilencehttp://www.comedycentral.com/sitewide/media_player/play.jhtml?itemId=15849&poppedFrom=_shows_the_daily_show_videos_headlines_index.jhtml&10:32
someluserand yed i read it10:32
budluvawell you didnt read then did you?10:32
budluvaobviously not10:33
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somelusermy name is someluser10:33
imaginounome: I've got a Coca Cola...or a fresh beer...can I sit then? :D10:33
unomebeer = good10:33
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imaginothen I'll sit!10:33
imaginoahahah10:33
pibarnasHey, can someone help me with ubuntu's supermout?10:33
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pestilencecould somebody who has the mozilla-mplayer package installed verify for me that the above link does not work for them?10:34
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unomepestilence: works here10:34
unomeand yes the guy is funny.10:35
pestilenceunome, arrrgh.  i guess it's just me.10:35
pestilenceunome, i prefer rolling my own mplayer-mozilla, since the packaged version doesn't seem to have the same control capabilities (namely fullscreen)10:35
pestilencebut i guess i will have to use the package :-(10:36
unomebetter have soemthing than nothing10:36
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pestilenceyea.  i don't understand why it stopped working for me.10:36
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timtuxomg, they shut down my warm water at 23.00, have to take a shower now. Cya10:38
timtuxbrb10:38
pestilencehrmm...you have video too, unome?10:38
pestilenceit still doesn't work with the packaged version.10:38
xryyI have nForce2 chipset and ATi Radeon 9600XT, do i need any drivers? because, ex: the screensaver have really bad fps, so there must be something with no installed driver10:38
pestilenceall i get is audio10:38
unomepestilence: you have mplayer installed?10:39
pestilenceunome, yes, and most other embedded videos work10:39
SliderMansomeone knows about kazaa to linux?10:39
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unomepestilence:  about:plugings in firefox shows mplayer, correct?10:39
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unomeabout:plugins*10:39
pestilenceunome, it seems that comedycentral's embedded videos are the only ones i have found that don't. the ones in the mplayerplug-in testing grounds all work10:39
pibarnasdid someone here have the ubuntu supermount crashing?10:40
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pestilenceunome, yes, i'm sure it does.  the plugin launches.  it just doesn't show video.  it plays the audio, however10:40
unomepestilence: weird10:40
pestilenceunome, maybe i need to remove the configuration files...10:40
unomeyeah give it a shot10:41
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i3dmasterdoes not work, after reboot, the screen went back to 640x480 and even using vesa as the driver, it is still the same.10:42
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someluserbudluva; i read the guide more throughly and found a repo I didn't have.10:43
jowere to finf urbuntu dutch10:43
someluserit's taking a LONG time, but it's downloading10:43
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budluvasomeluser, but its working?10:44
someluserso far....10:44
budluvagood10:44
pestilencebizarre.  nothing seems to fix it.  i moved .mplayer and .mozilla, and still have the same problem10:44
someluserdang10:44
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someluserbudluva; it crapped out on me again10:45
budluvawhat did?10:45
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someluserazureus10:45
budluvawhen loading? or while installing?10:45
d4rksh4deWhat is the default place where programs are being installed?10:45
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joapt-file list gnomemeeting10:46
jo?10:46
someluserwhen loading10:46
someluserbillions of "unknown source" errors from java10:46
johow to see witch version there are10:46
Reynfdisk -l tells me I have a hd on hdd1, but there isnt a /dev/hdd1 ... what gives ?10:46
unomepestilence: from the forums http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44560&highlight=mplayer10:46
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budluvasomeluser, sudo apt-get remove azureus && apt-get remove sun-j2re1.510:46
someluserok10:46
budluvasomeluser, then sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 && apt-get install azureus10:46
SpecialBuddydoes anyone know how to install wine10:47
SpecialBuddyI'm having the hardest time doing it10:47
budluvaSpecialBuddy, sudo apt-get install wine10:47
budluva???10:47
SpecialBuddyyeah10:47
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someluserthat's strange...10:47
tiredbonesDoes ubuntu have a new web site? Is www.ubuntu.org correct?10:47
pestilenceunome, apart from possibly the mplayerplug-in.conf file, i have done all that.  i'll try the conf changes too.10:47
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SpecialBuddyI did that but I try doing the wineinstall thing and it doesn't work10:48
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_simpleyou'll want to apt-get install winesetuptk to configure wine10:48
AlekHello?10:48
budluvaSpecialBuddy, sorry cant help you there, i've never touched wine :P10:48
someluserbudluva; i'm getting a wierd cannot open lock from dpkg10:48
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joits ther dutch help chanel10:48
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budluvasomeluser, did you sudo?10:48
SpecialBuddyI get that and it uninstalls wine10:48
someluseryes10:48
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cavediverHi guys. How do I get mplayer or totem to play wmv version 9 files. It doesnt work10:49
budluvasomeluser, try them all separatley then, sudo apt-get remove azureus and then sudo apt-get remove sun-j2re1.510:49
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cavediverUsing Breezy btw. But it doesn't work in hoary either10:49
someluserok10:49
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budluvaCavalierBob, install w32codecs10:49
budluvaCavalierBob, i think there is a wma codec around somewhere too10:49
cavediverbudluva: that's installed...10:49
cavediverI'm pretty sure w32codecs is installed. Must doublecheck10:49
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geargolemHi10:50
budluvaxmms-wma - xmms input plugin; wma format support10:50
pestilenceunome, yea, that didn't do anything either.  this is bizarre.10:50
socommcavediver: `apt-get install totem-xine'10:50
slyHmm when i used kubuntu xvid/divx worked out of the box10:50
unomepestilence: I wish I could figure it out10:50
someluserbudluva; it's working now, you missed a sudo after the &&10:50
socommw32codecs should take care of the rest.10:50
cavediversocomm: socomm It's installed. It sais it has no codec for that file10:50
slynow im on ubuntu cos i wanted gnome but no divx/xvid codex * scratchs Head*10:50
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pibarnasHey folks...10:50
pibarnashelp me!10:50
Seveassly: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support10:50
sly=)10:51
someluserman, that backports mirror is slow10:51
budluvasomeluser, im used to being su -'d sorry10:51
cavediverSeems lite I don't have w32codecs. It's not installable. I run AMD64 version of Ubuntu10:51
someluserit's ok10:51
unomepestilence: ask Seveas while he's a round ;-)10:51
AlekAny one hwo know how i can see the last peolpes i chatted with????10:51
Seveascavediver, w32codecs is only installable from backports and mplayerhq.hu iirc10:51
cavediverHmm..10:51
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SeveasAlek, in your logs perhaps?10:52
cavedivercan you point me to the apt-source ?10:52
uniqcavediver: you need a 32bit chroot to use w32codecs on amd64.10:52
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cavediveruniq: damn :/10:52
SpecialBuddyeverytime I install wine then winesetuptk is uninstalled and vice versa10:52
cavediverI don't have that10:52
SeveasAlek, ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs10:52
pestilenceunome, ok, i'll give him a shout :)10:52
geargolemis there a command to find where my java path is?10:52
FazerHello, does anyone know how to fix the MBR? I don't see Grub anymore.  it goes straight to my XP installation =(10:52
slySeveas . site down or just me ?10:52
SeveasSpecialBuddy, winesetuptk is obsolete10:52
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xryycan i play WMV on ubuntu?10:53
StrissIs there any way to change the desktop background in gnome via the command line?10:53
cavediverFazer: boot a live-cd, mount your root partition and run grub-install /dev/hda10:53
SeveasSpecialBuddy, you need to install wine-utils (or was it wine-tools??) and run winecfg10:53
uniqxryy: yes, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:53
unomewt210:53
SpecialBuddyok10:53
pestilenceSeveas, any idea why i get audio but no video with 4 versions of mplayerplug-in (packaged, 2.80, 2.85, and cvs?) for videos on comedycentral.com and nowhere else?10:53
SpecialBuddyso I shouldn't download winesetuptk10:53
Fazercavediver: and that's it?10:53
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Seveaspestilence, I guess they use a format that mplayer does not support...10:54
cavediverFazer: Yes.10:54
SeveasSpecialBuddy, indeed10:54
SpecialBuddyok10:54
SpecialBuddythanks10:54
Fazercavediver: Wow...didn't know it would be that easy.10:54
pestilencebut it works for unome...10:54
cavediver:)10:54
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Seveaspestilence, that's odd...10:54
pestilenceyes.10:54
unometold him10:54
Fazerpestilence: how are ya man?10:54
uniqpestilence: and you have the newest w32codecs package from backports?10:54
jblack_Hypothetical question. if a boot sector is destroyed, is there a tool to locate filesystems on the device?10:54
pestilencehey fazer10:54
pestilenceuniq, no i haven't.10:54
Seveaspestilence, try it :)10:55
pestilenceok, i'll give it a go10:55
jblack_perhaps a filesystem signature?10:55
geargolemhow do i locate my java path?10:55
Fazercavediver: Will that restore grub to its original setting so I can still dualboot and what not?10:55
Seveasgeargolem, what do you mean..?10:55
someluserbudluva; azureus is still crapping out10:55
cavediverFazer: It will then use your old menu.lst file, so i guess the answer is yes.10:55
geargolemSeveas, i just installed java on Hoary but need to put the path to it in mozilla10:55
Seveasgeargolem, I sincerely hope that you did not install java by simply running the .bin file...10:56
Fazercavediver: Sweetness, thanks.  I shall give that a try now.10:56
budluvageargolem, should be in /usr/lib10:56
geargolemSeveas, I did it the right way10:56
budluvasomeluser, check your logs10:56
Seveasgeargolem, using make-jpkg?10:56
socommgeargolem: You need to link the plugin to your firefoxes plugin direcotry.10:56
someluserok10:56
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SliderMansomeone knows some free antivirus?10:56
cavediverFazer: do so... after you mount, do a chroot /. I forgot to say that10:57
socommclam a/v10:57
SpecialBuddyI'm about to say forget wine10:57
cavediverSliderMan: I use clamav10:57
SeveasSliderMan, clamav (available from the Ubuntu repos)10:57
Alekseveas, where....?10:57
Fazercavediver: one more question, how woud I mount my linux partition? sudo mount /dev/hda2 (since I installed Linux after I installed Windows)10:57
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SeveasAlek, ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs10:57
ReynI have a disk that I'm transfering from another linux system, fdisk sees the partition as a SFS(42) disk ... could it be that the file system the partion is set to is not installed on my ubuntu system ? raiserfs etc.?10:57
pestilenceaha!!!10:57
pestilencethanks :)10:57
someluserbudluva; all the logs just have the java "unknown source" errors10:58
cavediverFazer: yes. If hda2 is your Ubuntu root partition... sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/whatever10:58
pestilencethe newest codec package from backports fixed it10:58
SpecialBuddycan you get msn messenger for linux10:58
AlekSeveas, how..?10:58
Alekseveas, sudo gedit ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs ?10:58
SeveasAlek, using a text editor, like gedit...10:58
timtuxhm, something is wrong. ive tried to install ubuntu on to diffrent internet connections. And still same problem. "Configuring apt" "25%" "Setting upp primary installation repostitory"10:58
SeveasAlek, no10:58
pestilencethanks unome, Seveas , uniq10:58
Seveasnautilus ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs10:58
budluvasomeluser, how did you install java apt-get sun-j2re1.5?10:58
geargolemsocomm, yes, I know.10:58
cavediverFazer: Then a cd /mnt/whatever and a chroot /, followed by a grub-install /dev/hda10:58
unomemost welcome10:58
someluserbudluva; yes, that's how i did it10:58
Fazercavediver: Sweet.  Thanks.  Rebooting now.10:58
Seveasgeargolem, try slocate libjavaplugin10:58
FazerHopefully this goes well.10:59
cavedivernp.10:59
Alekseveas, where is the ~/.xchat2/ dir located?10:59
SpecialBuddyis cedega free10:59
socomm...10:59
SeveasAlek, ~ is short for fout home directory10:59
SeveasSpecialBuddy, no10:59
budluvasomeluser, what does java -version say?10:59
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SpecialBuddyoh10:59
Alekseveasit is noe a folder named ~/.xchat2/ there!10:59
Alekalekstest11:00
someluserbudluva; gjc-4.011:00
budluvaAlek, its in your home dir, /home/Alek/.xchat211:00
SeveasAlek, no, there will be a .xchat2 folder there...11:00
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Alekseveas no11:00
SeveasAlek, yes11:00
SpecialBuddyhas anyone here been able to get wine to work11:00
Seveasbut in nautilus you will not see it by default...11:00
budluvasomeluser, java version "1.5.0_02" is what mine is saying, somethings wrong with your java install11:00
someluseri'd imagine so11:01
AlekSeveas, no it is not there!11:01
someluserbudluva; how do I kill it?11:01
budluvasomeluser, how did you install java in the beginning?11:01
somelusersynaptic11:01
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socomm!restricted11:01
ubotumethinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:01
SeveasAlek, in a terminal you type: ls -al ~ | grep xchat11:01
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socommbudluva: Follow that link.11:01
budluvasomeluser, you updated lately? try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade11:01
someluserdo it every other hour11:02
somelusernothing11:02
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budluvasomeluser, no errors when you removed it or azureus?11:02
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somelusernope11:02
budluvasocomm, ???11:02
someluserbudluva; wait11:03
budluvasocomm budluva: Follow that link.11:03
Alekseveas, and now?11:03
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SeveasAlek, what did that say..?11:03
socommbudluva: Forget it, I misread your comment.11:03
Alek2sec11:03
someluserbudluva; I hadn't updated since I added the backbort mirror11:03
someluserit has a huge list of stuff now11:04
budluvasomeluser, ahh :P11:04
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Alekseveas, is it any way to copy from terminal?11:04
SeveasAlek, select it with the mouse and hit <ctrl><shift><c>11:05
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onhi11:05
Alek~/.xchat2/xchatlogs11:05
Alekno11:05
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socommAlek: Higlight the text, than paste the text by clicking the center button.11:05
Alekseveas, it will not be copied with that...11:06
onhow to add sources to apt? i would like to install enlightenment, but it's not included on ubuntu cd11:06
Alekseveas, it just come a  new line..11:06
concept10is there such a file as /etc/sudoers?11:07
cavediveron: just edit /etc/apt/sources.list11:07
cavediverconcept10: yes.11:07
jblack_please oh please work parted rescue. :)11:07
onthx11:07
concept10cavediver, is this file empty by default?11:08
cavediverconcept10: Mine is 374 bytes11:08
concept10cavediver, nevermind I had to run sudo the view it. thanks11:08
cavediverok11:09
cavediverI hate sudo. First thing I did was to create a regular pw for root.11:09
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CarlFKwhat is a "multiseat system"?11:10
tiredbones:q11:10
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CarlFKand why can't the hoary installer configue mine?11:10
sarahwhat is the meaning of "end from FAM server connection"11:10
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dougskCarlFK, generally it's a term used for proprietary software, allowing you to install it multiple times to the extent of the license11:11
dougskCarlFK, I'm not aware of anything in the hoary installer that give that kind of response.  Anyone else?11:12
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Alekseveas, pm...11:12
onwell, i think ubuntu is not easier to use than debian :) excuse me but it's my opinion11:12
AlekAny one here who can help me to set windows to boot first?11:12
cavediveron: I think it's basically the same :=)11:12
pinkojust depends on what apps you're dealing with.11:12
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onand depends on your knowledge11:13
CarlFKAlek - how about booting the last OS used?  (it is easier)11:13
CarlFKdougsk - "configure a multiseat system" is one of the steps - guessing I got dropped into expert mode11:13
AlekCarlFK tou mean?11:13
Alekyou*11:13
CarlFKdougsk -I am also guessing it has to do witht he2nd nic it ofund11:14
dougskCarlFK, maybe that has to do with the uh kickstart support?  I've not used it tbh11:14
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CarlFKAlek - my box is set so that if I re-boot, I go back to the OS I was in when I rebooted11:14
Alekbox?11:14
CarlFKAlek - grub can remember your last pick and default to that11:14
Alekok11:14
CarlFKbox = laptop11:14
tiredbonesApache2 is looking for libphp4.so in /etc/apache2/modules/, but synaptic put it in "usr/lib/apache2/modules/". Would there be any problem in moving all the modules to  "/etc/apache2/modules/"/11:15
Alekbut how to get it boot from xp first....?11:15
SliderManhow to run sh files?11:15
cavediverSliderMan: sh file11:15
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AlekCarlFK, ?11:16
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CarlFKAlek - edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, find the line that says "default 0" and change it to "default X" where X is the # of your XP optioin11:16
dougskAlek, look at /boot/grub/menu.1st file it's commented nm CarlFK got it11:16
Alekshall i change 0 with X ?11:17
CarlFKAlek - or change it to "default saved" and it will do what it says on the line above it.11:17
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CarlFKAlek - yes, where X is the # of your XP optioin11:17
Alek# =11:17
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Alek?11:17
korCZizin which dir should i use mkcramfs to create initrd file?11:17
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cavediverX is the number of your XP entry in menu.lst11:18
CarlFKif you don't get that, just do "defalult saved" ;)11:18
cavediverLike 1,2 or even 3 :)11:18
cavediverYou have to look.11:18
korCZizwhen i used mkinitrd than he dont produced any initrd.img file11:18
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Alekcarlfk, will it auto starts form xp when i booting my pc??11:18
CarlFKsometimes ;)11:19
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Alekcarlfk, sometimes?11:19
CarlFKAlek - edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, find the line that says "default 0" and read the 2 lines above it11:19
Alekok11:19
korCZizhas somebody tried compiling kernel 2.6.10 or 2.6.12-1 on ubuntu?11:20
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Aleki'll be back11:20
Alekrebooting11:20
cavediverkorCZiz: I use 2.6.12, but I'm on Breezy so it's packaged..11:20
cavediver:)11:20
korCZizcavediver: i have problems with creating initrd.img file11:20
Dj_AlTeKhey ne1 know how to get .mp311:20
Dj_AlTeKhey ne1 know how to get .mp3's playing ??11:21
cavediverhuh?11:21
jbroomeapt-get install xmms11:21
cavediverapt-get install xmms11:21
jbroomehe11:21
jbroomeh11:21
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Dj_AlTeKthanx11:21
korCZizcavediver: when i typed and run mkinitrd than he didnt created initrd.img11:21
cavediverOk. Dunnu, was a long time since I compiled my own kernels..11:21
douglasis there a manual way to change res in xorg using a terminal?11:21
korCZizcavediver: how can i create initrd.img by using mkcramfs ?11:21
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jbroomethere's probably a dictionary application that has 'anyone' in it too11:21
cavediverCan't help you there..11:22
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johow to instal apt-get install limewire11:22
jo wont work?11:22
cavediverMeybe it's not there.11:22
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cavediverapt-cache search limewire sais what ?11:22
zythjo, download the RPM from Limewire.com, use alien to make it a deb, dpkg -i limewire.deb11:22
someluserbudluva; azureus, in spite of all we did, crapped out again11:23
sarahwhat is the meaning of "end from FAM server connection"11:23
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Dj_AlTeKok i got xmms, now that i click on my mp311:23
Dj_AlTeKfreakin a!11:23
deliresomeluser: it's very buggy these days..11:23
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cavediverDj_AlTeK: huh ?11:23
jowel a have olmost all runin gnomeeting not its u bug i think its all over the net andt xaxwt wont scan so must bij v4l1 thing what brok in urbuntu11:23
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Fazercavediver: Hmm, I am having trouble mounting my linux partition.  It says ext2 isn't a valid fs type.11:23
korCZizi  cannot use new compiled kernel because i am not able create appropiate initrd.img file. is here somebody who was the same problems with compiling and using new kernel?11:23
cavediverFazer: hmmm... reallt..11:23
lsuactiafnerDj_AlTeK : run xmms and use xmms like you would winamp11:23
Fazercavediver: Also, it says grub-install isn't a valid command.  Do I have to apt-get it?11:23
Fazercavediver: Yeah, I am rebooting again with my network card in.11:24
Fazer(rebooting in livecd)11:24
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cavediverFazer: no it should be there but you can't run it unless mounted and chrooted11:24
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caonexSeveas, are you there?11:24
imaekHow can I get gFTP to support SFTP?11:24
Seveascaonex, what a timing11:24
Seveasi just returned :)11:24
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jostil find gentoo smooter but its oke beter than suse en fedora11:24
Alekcarlfk?11:24
Fazercavediver: Can't I use the install cd to do a recovery or something?11:24
Alekcarlfk, its still booting from ubuntu11:25
cavediverFazer: don't think so...11:25
caonexSeveas, hehe, i see that, i just want to ask you something real quick, remember me from yesterday?11:25
SeveasFazer, yes11:25
SeveasFazer, boot with the 'rescue' boot parameter11:25
Dj_AlTeKwell i apt-get install xmms, but i cant find the folder or file11:25
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CarlFKAlek - did you pick XP, or just let it boot?11:25
SeveasDj_AlTeK, /usr/bin/xmms :)11:25
Dj_AlTeKthanx seveas11:25
delireDj_AlTeK: type xmms on the command line11:25
Seveascaonex, ask away :)11:25
FazerSeveas: Oh? Will it fix up my GRUB thign that the XP installer fscked up?11:25
Alekcarlfk, first boot xp, then let it boot11:25
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cavediverDj_AlTeK: It should be in the menu. If not, try killall gnome-panel and check in the menu again :)11:25
SeveasDj_AlTeK, applications -> sound & video -> xmms11:25
Seveas(in gnome)11:25
SeveasFazer, you will have to do that manually iirc11:26
Dj_AlTeKah i see it now thanx seveas11:26
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FazerSeveas: Will the rescue allow me to mount my hard drive and run the commands that cavediver told me to run?11:26
CarlFKAlek - /boot/grub/menu.lst, does it say "savedefault11:26
CarlFKer11:26
SeveasFazer, yes11:26
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BoD_SWATimaek, do you mean SFTP or SSL ? (sftp should be supported, standard)11:26
CarlFKAlek - /boot/grub/menu.lst, does it say "savedefault" as part of the XP section?11:26
FazerSeveas: Ah, I see.11:26
BoD_SWATAlek, does Grub work now?11:27
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AlekCarlFK, # You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry11:27
Alek# is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.11:27
AlekdefaultX11:27
SeveasDj_AlTeK, if you don't get any sound from xmms, try this:11:27
SeveasDj_AlTeK: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound11:28
Alekbod_swat, yes..., but i cant get it boot xp first...11:28
Dj_AlTeKi tried to get it to play and it just froze11:28
concept10On a new install of Ubuntu, the resolution is always set TOO high, and it causes alot of vertical lines how do I make it default 1024x768?11:28
BoD_SWATAlek, but if it is 2nd or 3rd it works?11:28
CarlFKAlek - /boot/grub/menu.lst, does it say "savedefault" as part of the XP section?11:28
caonexSeveas, well my gdm was crashing and my computer freezing. You told me that this usually happens with bad memory and commanded me to run memtest, and cut it after an hour. I did that and turns out memory is fine. Also, I told you about a little warning voltage report regarding the +5.0 that was turning out to be around 4.5. So I suspected that that was the problem and you told me it may be the PS. Well, right now i am logged in in another acc11:28
caonexount and gdm has not crashed. So i am thinking some of my configuration files are broken, whre can i see which ones to delete them?11:28
cmathesonconcept10, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and remove the resolutions you don't like from the "Screen" section11:29
imaekBoD_SWAT: I was confused.  I wanted SFTP (like, as in the sftp command), but in gFTP, it's called SSH.  I typed in the wrong IP, and so I thought that wasn't it, so I started researching.  It's working now.11:29
concept10cmatheson, thanks11:29
Alekcarlfk, no11:29
Dj_AlTeKgot it workin thanx seveas11:29
BoD_SWATimaek, okay N-joy :D11:29
Alekcarlfk, shall i remove it from ubuntu, and set it on xp?11:29
johttp://onedegree-128.mysticradio.com/listen.pls11:29
cavediverI want to have ssl support in gftp.. :/11:29
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cavediverAnyone have a better ftp client perhaps ?11:29
Aleksmartftp11:30
imaekBoD_SWAT: it certainly makes transferring files accross a network easier. :D11:30
cavediverA gui one please11:30
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BoD_SWATcavediver, you're out of luck11:30
cavediver:)11:30
Coricalhmm11:30
BoD_SWATcavediver, you'll need "ftp-ssl"11:30
BoD_SWATit's TUI only11:30
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CarlFKAlek - add savedefault to the XP section (near the bottem of the file)11:30
cavedivergftp is fine, however it doen't handle download and browsing at the same time :)11:30
Seveascaonex, it would be very weird for personal settings to crash GDM...11:30
Alektok11:30
Alekok11:31
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Coricaljonas !11:31
johow to switch to testing11:31
Fazercavediver: okay, i am on the live cd now.11:31
Alekcarlfk, will it boot from xp then?11:31
BoD_SWATcavediver, gftp doens't support SSL (only SSH)11:31
Fazercavediver: i looked at the dmesg and this is what I get when I try to mount my linux partition11:31
FazerEXT2-fs: hda2: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4).11:31
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concept10cmatheson, are you pretty familar with that .conf?11:31
cavediverFazer: ok. It was a while since I did this so have patiance :)11:31
caonexSeveas, well i do not see any toher explanation for this user to be fine and mine, to crash.11:31
Fazercavediver: sure thing.11:31
Seveascaonex, indeed, very odd... I suspect it's somewhere in .gnome / .gconf11:32
cmathesonconcept10, yeah11:32
cavediverFazer: That seems odd, are you sure you have your linux on /dev/hda2 ?11:32
Fazercavediver: yes, even fdisk shows it to be so.11:32
cavediverFazer: start the partitioner and check.11:32
cavediverahh ok11:32
cavediver:)11:32
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cmathesonconcept10, just skip down to the part that says 'Section "Screen"'11:32
cavediverand a mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/X gives ?11:32
concept10cmatheson, I configured this system with my monitor - it is going to be used with another monitor, can I delete the monitor info safely?11:33
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Fazercavediver:11:33
Fazermount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/11:33
BoD_SWATcavediver, Tip1: use "ftp-ssl". Tip2: If you want a GUI, try to get a SFTP account, because that works with GFTP11:33
Fazermissing codepage or other error11:33
AlekBOD_SWAT, what did you say for a hour ago??11:33
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Alekbod_swat, to get xp first11:33
cmathesonconcept10, you have to have at least one Monitor section in there.  If you want to delete the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines it shouldn't be aproblem though11:33
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cavediverFazer: I can't remember having problems with that part...hmmm11:33
yuachti'm using 32bit ubuntu but i'm on a 64-bit processor and i'm gonna compile an own kernel.. can i compile it as x86_64?11:33
Alekcarlfk?11:34
BoD_SWATAlek, my part of my Grub boot file (Windows is at 2nd spot)      http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/26511:34
delirecavediver: sounds like windows has hosed his inode table/ block counts or similar.11:34
Fazercavediver: yeah, i wasnt expecting any.11:34
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xryyif i try to install apt package11:34
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concept10cmatheson, how do I configure for new monitor once I hook it up? is there something that could recognize the other monitor11:34
xryyi get a errorline like this11:34
caonexSeveas, should i delete .gnome dir and let settings to create themselves again?11:34
xryydpkg: tolkingsfeil, i fila /var/lib/dpkg/available nr linje 1760 pakken gconf-editor:11:34
FazerSeveas: Maybe you can shed some light on the problem?11:34
xryy Depends-felt, referanse til libesd-alsa0: versjon inneholder  11:35
n3xHey... is anyone using linux-image-2.6.11 ? I wanted to switch from 2.6.10-5 to it but after it boots and I log in my laptop freezes just before loading the gnome panel... is anyone familiar w/ this ?11:35
Alekbod_swat, ok11:35
AlekBYE11:35
katzorhi all, i try to create a deb package but it fails to sign it11:35
cmathesonconcept10, X can usually just probe that kind of stuff on it's own (you don't necessarily need any info in there), but you could also look up the new monitors information on the web and stick it in there now11:35
Seveascaonex, you will loose a lot of settings if you do that...11:35
virtualdyuacht: it should work. always keep at least one old kernel, just in case.11:35
Seveasbut it would be a good try11:35
cavediverFazer: try mount -s11:35
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Fazercavediver: same error.11:35
concept10cmatheson, i read this in the file:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:35
Fazercavediver: wrong fs type.11:35
cavediverand you have ext2, and not ext3 ?11:36
Fazercavediver: yeah, I have ext211:36
FazerBut fdisk shows /hda2 as Linux11:36
xryycan anyone help me?11:36
Fazerit doesn't show it as ext2 or anything like that.11:36
xryyplease?11:36
cavediverYes but that's ok11:36
delirexryy: i'd like to help but unfortunately i don't have character support for norweigen and so what you wrote is full of many strange characters! is there an ubuntu-no channel or similar?11:36
cmathesonconcept10, yeah, if you don't want to edit the file by hand, you can run that command and it will step you through the process11:36
boomer77hi - could someone please help me - I just installed ubuntu and now I need to create some more partitions11:37
CarlFKboomer77 - why more?11:37
korCZizanybody who now how to use mkcramfs to creating initr.img, pleeeeaaaaze?11:37
xryyhm11:37
delireFazer: when did this happen?11:37
concept10cmatheson, thanks for the insight on that11:37
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cavediverFazer: -v for verbose. Maybe you get some more messages..11:37
xryydelire: i can try to translate11:37
Fazerdelire: when did what?  I used XP Setup and then it messed up my MBR11:37
boomer77thanks calrfk - i am setting up a Samba server11:37
Fazerdelire: and now I am using the live cd to repare it11:37
n3xso... is anyone using linux-image-2.6.11 ?11:37
SeveaskorCZiz, you should not manually compile a kernel or make an initrd, use make-kpkg11:38
boomer77and i want to be able to assign windows drive letters to various partitions11:38
Fazercavediver: wait, wtf.  I am sure it was ext 2 , but I used ext3 and it worked!11:38
xryydelire: everytime i try to install a package, i get a error like this11:38
delireFazer: i believe it's hosed your block count and so while it might identify as ext2, it may not be useable as such.11:38
Fazercavediver: okay, so now I am in /mnt/test/11:38
caonexSeveas, I know but I am willing to do that because i can get them again...11:38
CarlFKboomer77 - um... no you don't ;)11:38
cavediverFazer: Do you see the root files and so on...11:38
caonexSeveas, and it crashes anyways11:38
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boomer77why not ?11:38
Fazerdelire: I speicifed ext3 as the type when mount and it works I think11:38
Fazercavediver: yes11:38
CarlFKboomer77 - you assing drive letters to shares11:38
Seveascaonex, well, by all means, try it :)11:38
xryydpkg have troubles understanding in file /var/lib/dpkg/avaible in line 1760 package gconf-editor:11:38
delireFazer: ok, good luck with it all!11:38
Fazercavediver: I can see my home dir and everything.11:38
boomer77o.k. - but the partitions will be set up as shared11:38
Fazerdelire: thanks man11:38
boomer77o.k. - but the partitions will be set up as shares11:39
CarlFKboomer77 - a share "could" be a partition, but it could be any dir11:39
cavediverFazer: ok. While standing in /mnt/test, write chroot /  (I think it was so anyway :=11:39
nukleidesHi, i got a 56k-USB-Modem it works well, but after every reboot it's powered os, and i have to plug out, plug in...11:39
Fazercavediver: heh11:39
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xryyDepends-field, reference to libesd-alsa0: version contains << >>11:39
xryydo you understand, delire ?11:39
Fazercavediver: with sudo you mean?11:39
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Fazercavediver: I tried sudo chroot / and it seems to work.11:39
CarlFKboomer77 - actualy, you can't realy share "a partition" - you would have to mount the partition under a dir and share that.  so forget the partition idea and just share any ol' dir11:39
cavediverYes. Try a cd /11:39
boomer77o.k. - i have 80 GB available and when i type in n and press enter to create a new partition the first cylinder is 450111:39
cavediverAre you still in the root ?11:40
Fazercavediver: i think I am in the root of the live cd stuff now11:40
caonexSeveas, ok11:40
boomer77and so I press enter to accpt this11:40
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cavediverFazer: Then it was wrong...11:40
Fazercavediver: but my shell changed to a #11:40
delirexryy: ok, do this: 'apt-get update && apt-get install gconf-editor' and paste the output to a pastebin online for me.11:40
Fazercavediver: when I type whoami it says root11:40
cavediverFazer: Try a chroot /mnt/test /11:40
Fazercavediver: oh ok11:40
cavediverI can't remember the exact syntax for chroot11:41
nukleidesHi, i got a 56k-USB-Modem it works well, but after every reboot it's powered off, and i have to plug out, plug in... any idea?11:41
Fazercavediver: permission denied, even with sudo.11:41
boomer77for last cyl, the default value is 4502, which is just one cyl larger than the starting cyl11:41
delirexryy: use this one to paste the results: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/11:41
Fazercavediver: why do I need chroot anyways?11:41
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boomer77i want to specify something llike +2000M and it says the value is out of range11:41
CarlFKboomer77 - how many cyl's on the drive?11:41
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delirexryy: what exactly are you trying to install by the way?11:41
boomer77thanks CarlFK - 14,94611:42
cavediverSo your paths and such points to your linux install and not the live cd. Grub-install is on the live cd aswedd. However you want to run it from /dev/hda211:42
Fazercavediver: and the other problem is that grub-install isn't a valid command11:42
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boomer77i have three primary partitions and an extended partition with 3 logical drives11:42
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boomer77is there a maximum to the number of logical drives that I can create in an extended partition ?11:42
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FazerDoes anyone else know how I can fix my MBR so its back to as it was before?11:43
cavediverFazer: I think once you have a valid chrrot, the path to grub.install would be correct11:43
CarlFKboomer77 - yeah, 4 (i think)11:43
Fazercavediver: okay, but when i type `grub-install`11:43
boomer77is that 4 for the max. of logical partitions ?11:43
Fazerit doesn't do anything.11:43
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CarlFKboomer77 - but more than 3 for sure.11:43
naliothboomer77: no limit (that i know of)11:43
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boomer77in an extended partition ?11:43
cavediverFazer: maybe you can try navigating to /mnt/test/sbin11:43
delireFazer: try 'whereis grub-install'11:43
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CarlFKnalioth - there is some limit.  it works out to 32 total11:43
xryydelire: it doesn't matter11:43
cavediverFazer: And from there run grub-install /dev/hda11:43
boomer77thanks to both of you for your help so far11:44
delirexryy: did it work?11:44
naliothboomer77: i have 13 partitions in my extended area11:44
CarlFKboomer77 - 4 "main" and i think 8 extend4ed11:44
cyphasehey everyone11:44
xryyi get that error message if i try to install anything11:44
naliothCarlFK: idk, but more than i'll ever use11:44
xryyeverytime i use apt-get11:44
Fazercavediver: in sbin/ there is no grub-install11:44
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boomer77o.k., so the number of logical drives in the extended probably isn't the problem11:44
Seveascavediver, there is a little caveat there, you will have to mount -o bind /dev /mnt/chroot/dev11:44
delirexryy: paste the error to the URL i gave you above so i can read it all in a browser. i can probably help.11:44
xryydelire: do you need the apt-get update output also?11:44
delirexryy: no..11:44
boomer77in ubuntu - do i need to boot to rescue mode to run fdisk and create partitions ?11:44
CarlFKboomer77 - are you chatting from the same box?11:45
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boomer77no a different box11:45
delirexryy: unless of course there's an error with the apt-get update also.11:45
CarlFKboomer77 - no.  sudo fdisk is fine11:45
cavediverFazer: really ? If you have grub as your bootloader then grub.install should exixt...11:45
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delireFazer: 'whereis grub-install'11:45
lynxanyone knows how can i change my desktop icons size?11:45
cavediveror locate grub-install11:45
CarlFKboomer77 - rats.  I would like to see what fdisk -l /dev/hdX says11:45
cavediverMine is in /sbin11:45
boomer77i am used to red hat (sorry if that bothers anyone), suse, fedora and mandrake11:46
Fazerroot@ubuntu:/sbin# whereis grub-install11:46
Fazergrub-install:11:46
lynxanyone knows how can i change my desktop icons size?11:46
boomer77do I need to run:   sudo   in front of fdisk ?11:46
xryydelire: http://pastebin.com/30490011:46
Fazercavediver: well, i am sure I use Grub since that is what I see when I load up.11:46
delireFazer: locate grub-install (as cavediver wisely suggests)11:46
CarlFKboomer77 - yes.  but I don't think that is your current problem11:46
Fazerdelire: locate doesn't work.11:46
delirexryy: ok thanks.11:46
delireFazer: updatedb && locate grub-install11:47
cavediverFazer: This is really strange. Are you in the sbin of the mount and not the live.cd ?11:47
Fazercavediver: correct.11:47
boomer77i ran:   init  1   to change into runlevel 1 so that X would not be running - was this useful ?11:47
IFRFLYRHi, I am trying to Load ubuntu live on a centrino HP dv4000;  the loading process works fine and there's nothing in dmesg BUT gnome session does not work - the machine is up and running when I ALT+F[x]  but blank on ALT+F711:47
Fazerurgh fucking hell11:47
topylilynx: system -> preferences -> font, would you believe :)11:47
cavediverFazer: MBR restoring is a oain sometimes..11:48
cavediverain11:48
delireFazer: as you can see XP really doesn't like other OS's on board :(11:48
cavediverpain11:48
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Fazercavediver: you were right, i was silly i was in the live cd.11:48
delirexryy: sudo dpkg --configure -a11:48
Fazercavediver: okay11:48
Fazercavediver: so, should it be /dev/hda ?11:48
Fazeror /dev/hda2 ?11:48
cavediverYes, that's the MBR11:48
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lynxtopyli, this changes the font size, i'd like to change the icon size11:48
cavediverI have grub in my MBR.11:49
delirexryy: try that11:49
lynx=] 11:49
IFRFLYRI tried CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE killing X and starting it again, nothing doing11:49
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Fazerdamn it11:49
cavediverFazer: you might get a error here.11:49
Fazercavediver: i get this error: //sbin/grub: Not found.11:49
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topylilynx: ah the icons. right click on one, choose "stretch icon"11:49
cavediverI know.. Im sure the chroot is a must...11:49
MyQe2hello good ppl11:49
IFRFLYRAND I hear the nice "session start" music.11:49
cavediverI just have to figure this chroot out...11:49
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xryydelire: still the error message11:50
MyQe2i m  in love in a woman !!! isn't grate!11:50
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cavediverIf I want /mnt/x as my / , what's the syntax of chroot ?11:50
delirexryy: 'apt-get -f install'11:50
xryystill error11:50
IFRFLYRMe too...Anyone?11:50
lynxhm, ty topyli11:50
MyQe2any way have installed windows xp and now i don't have grab on start up. does anyone know how i can fix that ?11:51
Fazercavediver: i think i have to mount /proc11:51
imaekn11:51
imaekl11:51
Seveascavediver, chroot /mnt/x11:51
delirexryy: i see you have a few packages not upgraded. why not 'apt-get upgrade' and see if the packages upgraded are among those holding others back?11:51
cavediverSeveas: ahh !11:51
cavediverFazer: Try chroot /mnt/test11:52
imaekfaster faster11:52
xryyit wont11:52
xryyi enter the command11:52
Fazercavediver: waaay ahead of you.11:52
xryyand it ask me if i want to continue11:52
cavediverFazer: ok :)11:52
xryyi press Y11:52
delirexryy: did you 'sudo apt-get upgrade'?11:52
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xryyand the error get back again11:52
xryyim root11:53
xryyim in root terminal, i dont need sudo ;)11:53
delirexryy: how about 'apt-get install --reinstall libesd-alsa0' (i'm trying to read norwiegen here ;)11:54
CarlFKcan I use \ to continue lines in fstab?11:54
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xryyhehe ;)11:54
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IFRFLYROkay, I'll try again: live disk, centrino notebook HP DV4000, ubuntu boots but gnome gives a blank screen, nothing in dmesg11:55
neighborleeis there a fix yet for   X  crashing anyone ? ;-) ( checked forums and opinions vary as much as the symptons it seemes LOL)\11:55
xryyshould i paste output?11:55
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delirexryy: yep11:55
dougskCarlFK, why not use nano -w /etc/fstab although that would be a handy python trick wouldn't it :)11:55
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delireIFRFLYR: strange.. can you CTRL-ALT-F1?11:55
IFRFLYRYes, and he terminal is up and running (that's how I checked dmesg)11:56
IFRFLYROh!11:56
Seveasneighborlee, 'X crashing' is not a realy good description....11:56
IFRFLYROne sec. I ALT+f1 to do that.11:56
neighborleeSeveas, well its so common I thought someone might know..okay I can fix that11:56
xryydelire: http://pastebin.com/30490711:56
SeveasIFRFLYR, check ps aux to see if gdm/Xorg are running...11:56
imaekHow can I find out what my Internal IP address is?11:56
Seveasimaek, ifconfig11:57
delirexryy: ok checking it out now.11:57
xryytell me if you need me to translate something11:57
IFRFLYRI just rebooted delire, - lemme check in a sec Seveas, thanks for answering11:57
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neighborleeSeveas, running say evolution.it crashes  then gnome-panel fries and desktop along with it..mouse still works as does keyboard but I have no access to anything else other than hard shutdown11:57
imaekThanks, Seveas.11:57
Seveasneighborlee, is this on hoary..?11:57
djm62does anybody know a guide for getting a generic usb-midi keyboard working on a modern linux distribution?11:57
neighborleeSeveas, sorry and yes it is11:57
djm62(my bro got one and I'm dead jealous)11:57
lsuactiafnerwhats that condition called when a person laughs @ the wrong times.. like in a scary movie i burst out laughin or when something goes horribly wrng i start smiling?11:57
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neighborleeSeveas, intel, nvidia 3d and gnome11:57
IFRFLYRTourettes syndrome Isuactiafner11:58
IFRFLYR:)11:58
IFRFLYRYou PRICK!11:58
Seveasneighborlee, have you tried using a different account?, different DE, different drivers...?11:58
lsuactiafnerno man11:58
IFRFLYRSorry11:58
lsuactiafnerbecuase something bad just happened and i kept smilin and my flatmate got pissed11:58
delirexryy: can you translate this and the line afterwards for me? "dpkg: tolkingsfeil, i fila /var/lib/dpkg/available nr linje 1760 pakken gconf-editor:" line 1760 of the package gconf-editor.. ?? etc11:58
lsuactiafnerheh11:58
neighborleeSeveas, yes I tried older 6629 and it still did it eventually..I have not tried anything but gnome...11:58
cavediverAnyone running Breezy and have a solution to the broken GDM11:59
CarlFKlsuactiafner - I call that being human ;)11:59
delirexryy: is it 'near line 1760 of hte package gconf-editor'?11:59
Seveasneighborlee, try XFCE, it's not such a pain to install (apt-get install xfce4) and try another account11:59
lsuactiafnerheh well got me in shit for not being gloomy11:59
xryydelire: yes11:59
Seveascavediver, yes, don't run breezy :)11:59
lsuactiafner-ao alsa:device=hw=1.011:59
neighborleeSeveas, are there rumors about gnome being possible cause ?11:59
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xryyyour making progress in my language ;)11:59
Seveasneighborlee, not at all11:59
korCZizSeveas: make-kpg also didnot produced /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10, i need to do it manualy by using mkcramfs, but i dont know which directory i must pass as one from arg for "mkcramfs" utility....11:59
remyforbes777whats wrong with breezy12:00
Seveasthe first thing I suspect is the nvidia drivers...12:00

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