Seveas | korCZiz, make-kpkg --initrd | 12:00 |
Seveas | read manpages... | 12:00 |
cavediver | Breezy is great !! :) | 12:00 |
nalioth | !breezy | 12:00 |
ubotu | Breezy is due for release in October 2005 If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it (X is broken, and other important packages could be too) | 12:00 |
delire | xryy: hehe i lived in sweden for a while. i just need to ask another person a Q before answering. | 12:00 |
Seveas | korCZiz, and even then, you should use mkinitrd instead of mkcramfs... | 12:00 |
remyforbes777 | ubotu: ahhhhhhhhhh thanks | 12:00 |
ubotu | remyforbes777: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? | 12:00 |
nalioth | remyforbes777: psssst ubotu is a robot | 12:01 |
_zero | can anyone help me with problems with my sound... (aka i've got no output it seems) | 12:01 |
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Seveas | _zero, do you hear the system sounds (like the drumming when you get the login screen)? | 12:01 |
_zero | nopers | 12:01 |
_zero | Sorry, no I don't Seveas | 12:01 |
Seveas | _zero, does /dev/dsp exist? | 12:01 |
_zero | Seveas - yeah - and am using kubuntu btw | 12:02 |
IFRFLYR | Seveas, back up: gdm is running but not xorg :( | 12:02 |
korCZiz | Seveas: how i said many time before mkinitrd is not working | 12:02 |
neighborlee | Seveas, oh btw I forgot to mention..XP is fine..no crashes I dont think but then my time spent in it is slashed compared to linux.but im usually in xp for a day stretch or so and over months use I dont see crashing so I dont suspect nvidia 3d which I have in xp as well..then again who knows..im not sure anyone does yet..it seems to effect other distros too SHRUG | 12:02 |
_zero | zero@omikani:~$ ls -la /dev/dsp | 12:02 |
_zero | crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2005-06-27 21:00 /dev/dsp | 12:02 |
Seveas | IFRFLYR, any clues from /var/log/xorg.0.log? | 12:02 |
korCZiz | Seveas: mknitrd dont produce ANY output | 12:02 |
delire | Seveas: i don't use gnome, a guy here has an odd gnome related error (though not terminal) where 'line 1760 of gconf-editor references an alternative version of libesd-alsa0 (i think - it's in norweigen). can he purge gconf-editor and reinstall it? | 12:02 |
IFRFLYR | Ah, one sec | 12:02 |
delire | korCZiz: mkinitrd is broken | 12:02 |
Seveas | _zero, do you perhaps have multiple soundcards (like an onboard one and a real one)? | 12:02 |
delire | korCZiz: it's broken here also, happened after a recent upgrade | 12:02 |
korCZiz | delire: yes it is and i have red it on net | 12:02 |
Seveas | neighborlee, the winxp nvidia driver is much better supported than the linux nvidia driver unfortunately | 12:03 |
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_zero | Seveas - I'll check - I dont think so... /me gets on hands and knees | 12:03 |
IFRFLYR | Seveas: maybe this is a clue... "/var/log/xorg.0.log: No such file or directory" ? | 12:03 |
korCZiz | delire: so i NEED mkcramfs to CREATE initrd but i dont know which dir must be passed as one of args.. | 12:03 |
munki | Need some help for ACPI , I got a Athlon XP-M 2800+ in my Packard Bell Laptop, and it just overheats and shuts down . Been messing arround with powernowd and acpi , but it just don't seems to work =/ | 12:03 |
Seveas | IFRFLYR, :| | 12:03 |
IFRFLYR | Agtreed | 12:03 |
nalioth | zyth: are you awake? | 12:03 |
concept10 | Beep Media Player AND XMMS freezes on me when trying to play something. Any clues anyone? | 12:03 |
IFRFLYR | er...s/agtreed/agreed | 12:03 |
korCZiz | I NEED NEW KERNEL VERSION | 12:04 |
neighborlee | Seveas, yeah tis true sadly | 12:04 |
Seveas | korCZiz, yoi should file a bug about mkinitrd being broken, or read the manpage for mkcramfs :) | 12:04 |
cavediver | korCZiz: why ? | 12:04 |
resiak | concept10: Something else is using /dev/dsp? | 12:04 |
delire | xryy: try 'apt-get install --reinstall gconf-editor' | 12:04 |
Seveas | concept10: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound | 12:04 |
neighborlee | Seveas, I would l hope nvidia is trying to help track this given its closed source :( | 12:04 |
concept10 | resiak, nope | 12:04 |
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neighborlee | Seveas, I still suspect xorg though | 12:04 |
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djm62 | gah...what security update is this? kernel? | 12:04 |
neighborlee | Seveas, I never had crashing with warty..not ever | 12:04 |
korCZiz | Seveas: in manpages is not writen which dir must be passed as argument | 12:04 |
Seveas | neighborlee, try using the nv driver | 12:04 |
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neighborlee | Seveas, that is simpy not a option.I must have 3d due to game developement | 12:05 |
delire | korCZiz: i am in exactly the same boat. i ditched the ramdisk and went for a mono boot. | 12:05 |
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korCZiz | cavediver: because is just one way how to create initrd.img | 12:05 |
IFRFLYR | Seveas: any other ideas? | 12:05 |
xryy | same message | 12:05 |
Seveas | korCZiz, in the manpage of mkinitrd, it is described how it works... | 12:05 |
neighborlee | Seveas, but I think friends that use ubuntu dont have crashing..he's using | 12:05 |
cavediver | korCZiz: Why not run the kernel you have now ? | 12:05 |
neighborlee | Seveas, 'nv' I think..shrug at this point I dont know what to do as I really must have 3d enabled ;-)) | 12:05 |
Seveas | neighborlee, I mean just to test it, so you can point out which one is the bad guy on your system | 12:05 |
neighborlee | Seveas, I must try other combos I guess and try to find what fixes it | 12:06 |
delire | xryy: jesus! well it's not a terminal error. in fact it's pretty harmless. i have no idea quite why that's happening though. i do see "6 not fully installed or removed." which i believe is where your problem is. this is why i thought 'dpkg --configure -a' would assist. at least a 'apt-get -f install' | 12:06 |
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neighborlee | Seveas, trouble is its such a random crash I have no idea how long i'd have to use 'nv' just to be sure its not something else..oh well life is grand LOL | 12:06 |
aurax | anyone here uses kolab2? | 12:06 |
Seveas | lol neighborlee :) | 12:06 |
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Seveas | djm62, you must reboot :p | 12:07 |
Seveas | (just messing with ya) | 12:07 |
delire | korCZiz: i always try to stay a month behind the latest stable kernel. | 12:07 |
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Fazer | horray! | 12:07 |
neighborlee | Seveas, ill consider using 'nv' for a while though to see..test the HELL out of this OS LOL | 12:07 |
Fazer | awesome, it worked. | 12:07 |
IFRFLYR | BTW delire, yes, CTRL+ALT+F1 works as expected | 12:07 |
delire | Fazer: hehe grand ;) well done | 12:07 |
djm62 | Seveas: I meant the kernel update...will it popup a warning? | 12:07 |
korCZiz | delire: maybe good idea | 12:08 |
djm62 | nope :-/ | 12:08 |
Seveas | IFRFLYR, ps aux | grep X shows nothing? | 12:08 |
delire | IFRFLYR: i would read 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE' | 12:08 |
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IFRFLYR | Seveas: Correct! | 12:08 |
Seveas | delire, no such file :| | 12:08 |
IFRFLYR | Seveas: except the grep itself | 12:08 |
delire | Seveas: yikes.. | 12:08 |
xryy | delire: do i have to install ubuntu again? | 12:08 |
Seveas | IFRFLYR, try /var/log/messages | 12:08 |
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Seveas | or /var/log/dmesg | 12:09 |
xryy | delire: i think it happened after i installed java | 12:09 |
Seveas | maybe something has been thrown in there | 12:09 |
delire | xryy: not at all. you just need to configure those 6 packages that haven't been configured properly yet. somehow these were not installed properly. | 12:09 |
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IFRFLYR | Seveas: Sorry: ps aux | grep xorg shows nothing. grep x shows xscreensaver and x-session manager but no xorg. | 12:09 |
delire | xryy: hmm | 12:09 |
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IFRFLYR | Checking demesg | 12:09 |
IFRFLYR | dmesg | 12:09 |
Seveas | IFRFLYR, grep X | 12:09 |
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Seveas | with capital X | 12:09 |
mhz | Mo9in! | 12:09 |
mhz | moin! | 12:09 |
Seveas | good evening mhz | 12:09 |
mhz | evening Mr.Seveas | 12:10 |
delire | xryy: wait a moment.. | 12:10 |
zyth | woohoo | 12:10 |
zyth | World of Warcraft runs at 100% in normal old WIne for me | 12:10 |
nalioth | zyth: great, now on to MS office 2005 | 12:10 |
delire | zyth: hmm, what card? | 12:10 |
CarlFK | hey.. I bet mhz would know what is a "multiseat system"? | 12:10 |
zyth | delire, GeForce Ti4200 | 12:11 |
IFRFLYR | Seveas: /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7 | 12:11 |
zyth | nalioth, um ew? | 12:11 |
IFRFLYR | ;) | 12:11 |
Seveas | IFRFLYR, so X *IS* running... | 12:11 |
IFRFLYR | Weird, though! | 12:11 |
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Seveas | yes | 12:11 |
IFRFLYR | blank screeen, but I do hear the music. . . . | 12:11 |
Seveas | try playing with your notebooks external/internal display switch | 12:11 |
mhz | CarlFK: it happens to be my initials are m.h.z in Chile :) nothing techier than that | 12:12 |
mhz | :) | 12:12 |
djm62 | ah, the old mhz myth | 12:12 |
IFRFLYR | None i know of Seveas: this notebook just came out of the box from HP and ... wait for it...The display works in windows. . But also, I can get terminal windows on screens 1-6 and 8-9 | 12:12 |
delire | xryy: i want to find all the packages that are a problem currently on your system. do this 'dpkg -C | --audit' | 12:12 |
nalioth | CarlFK: is that a system licenesed for multiple users? | 12:13 |
CarlFK | mhz - opps. I was thinking you were mdz... one of the main if not the main Ubuntu dudes | 12:13 |
xryy | bash: --audit: command not found | 12:13 |
CarlFK | nalioth - if I knew, I wouldn't be asking ;) | 12:13 |
mhz | Anyone knows of any ubuntu cutomization LiveCD/Installable based on XFCE4 or Fluxbox ?? | 12:13 |
Seveas | IFRFLYR, I suggest you send out an e-mail to ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com, this sounds like a bug to me | 12:13 |
mhz | CarlFK: np | 12:13 |
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djm62 | isn't multiseat dual-monitor dual keyboard etc | 12:14 |
Seveas | mhz, check the buntu wikipage | 12:14 |
IFRFLYR | Really? | 12:14 |
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concept10 | Seveas, thanks - Linux has too many sound protocols (along with everything else) | 12:14 |
Seveas | djm62, yes it is | 12:14 |
delire | xryy: 'dpkg -C'? | 12:14 |
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xryy | dpkg: tolkingsfeil, i fila /var/lib/dpkg/available nr linje 1760 pakken gconf-editor: | 12:14 |
ufo- | does gweather works on ubuntu for anyone? It doesn't work for me on three different machines.. | 12:15 |
xryy | Depends-felt, referanse til libesd-alsa0: versjon inneholder | 12:15 |
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CarlFK | djm62 - the only thing I can think of is mulit nic because I have both a pci nic (that is detected) and an isa one (3c509, no module loaded, so I don't see how it could see it) | 12:15 |
ufo- | hoary that is.. sorry | 12:15 |
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Seveas | xryy, try LC_ALL=C dpkg -C | 12:15 |
murphy | anyone know a good media player for ubuntu? | 12:15 |
Seveas | Maybe we can understand the output then | 12:15 |
goldfish | vlc | 12:15 |
dolny | vlcplayer | 12:15 |
djm62 | CarlFK: what's the problem? | 12:15 |
dolny | :) | 12:15 |
goldfish | :) | 12:16 |
Seveas | murphy, vlc/totem/beep-media-player/mplayer | 12:16 |
djm62 | CarlFK: too far up for me to see | 12:16 |
xryy | dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1760 package `gconf-editor': | 12:16 |
nalioth | CarlFK: djm62 was correct, a 'multiseat system' is one in which multiple users can log into the same box at the same time and both have their own xserver | 12:16 |
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xryy | `Depends' field, reference to `libesd-alsa0': version contains ` ' | 12:16 |
dolny | i can't install enlightement properly on my kubuntu | 12:16 |
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Seveas | xryy, eeeeeek, sounds like your available file is fubar | 12:16 |
murphy | I have totem right now, and it won't play ANYTHING! | 12:16 |
CarlFK | djm62 - trying to install hoary and get an error dialog - something about trouble setting up a multiseat system | 12:16 |
dolny | no such option in GDM after installation | 12:16 |
dolny | if i add it manually Gnome launches instead of E17 | 12:16 |
dolny | that sux | 12:16 |
xryy | wtf does that mean, Seveas ? | 12:17 |
concept10 | The Gracious Gooseberry release? does this affect only x86_64 in x86 emulation mode? | 12:17 |
dolny | murphy - try vlcplayer | 12:17 |
Seveas | xryy, try apt-get update | 12:17 |
djm62 | CarlFK: do you have multiple graphics cards (perhaps onboard and additional?) | 12:17 |
nalioth | CarlFK: did you see the ubuntu forums re multiseat? | 12:17 |
xryy | i did | 12:17 |
dolny | murphy: or eventually kaffeine (for kde but great as a default player after installation) | 12:17 |
xryy | it works fine | 12:17 |
dolny | vlcplayer - google iti | 12:17 |
dolny | it | 12:17 |
nalioth | concept10: was that before or after "stinky skunk"? | 12:17 |
CarlFK | hmm, leme look... could be... | 12:17 |
mhz | Last week I googled everywhere , unsuccessfully, for a solution to having an iBook run in a different resoltion than 800x640 (which is forced by default and any changes to xorg won't take effect) Any ideas? | 12:17 |
ufo- | does gweather work on hoary? | 12:17 |
Seveas | xryy: try dpkg --record-avail -R /var/lib/apt/lists | 12:17 |
thingy | murphy: have you installed suitable codecs? http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs | 12:17 |
nalioth | CarlFK: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-May/007371.html | 12:18 |
concept10 | nalioth, thats a funny name - when will it end? | 12:18 |
nalioth | mhz: what kind of ibook? mine runs o-o-t-b at 1024x768 | 12:18 |
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mhz | white one, 15 inches | 12:18 |
CarlFK | nalioth - um, cool - but not me. one keyboard/mouse/video | 12:18 |
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nalioth | concept10: i'm not the one who started the weird animal version names, look at apple | 12:18 |
Seveas | xryy, did that work..? | 12:19 |
delire | xryy: sorry about that, battery died | 12:19 |
delire | dpkg -C work? | 12:19 |
xryy | dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1760 package `gconf-editor': | 12:19 |
xryy | `Depends' field, reference to `libesd-alsa0': version contains ` ' | 12:19 |
xryy | ok, delire | 12:19 |
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nalioth | mhz: that's weird, i have a dual-usb white iBook2 G3/600 and my rez defaulted to 1024x768 | 12:19 |
Seveas | xryy, even after dpkg --record-avail? | 12:19 |
nalioth | mhz: have you run the reconfigure thing? | 12:19 |
hackeron | how do I edit track preferences in rhythmbox? -- I right click on track, click on properties, see text fields where I'm supposed to edit, but I cant add or change anything... | 12:19 |
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mhz | nalioth: yep, that was 1st thing | 12:19 |
nalioth | mhz: or added settings to your xorg.conf (or whatever it is) | 12:20 |
mhz | nalioth: yep, that was 2nd thing :) | 12:20 |
xryy | Seveas: yes | 12:20 |
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lw | how do i check how much ram (free/max) from the console? | 12:20 |
Seveas | xryy, odd.. | 12:20 |
delire | Seveas: i think he needs to audit the 6 partially configured packages on his system. | 12:20 |
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nalioth | mhz: i have a 3d guess. did you run the reconfigure thing and choose VESA as the driver? | 12:20 |
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Seveas | delire, well, a parse error in the available file is not too good either | 12:20 |
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delire | Seveas: no it's not.. | 12:21 |
Seveas | xryy, another try: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* | 12:21 |
mhz | nalioth: that I have not done yet! THX for that 3r one .) | 12:21 |
Seveas | and then apt-get update | 12:21 |
nalioth | mhz: the VESA driver will run a dead skunk | 12:21 |
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boomer77 | hi all - i want to create a new user and from the desktop, I select: System ; Administration ; Users and groups ; and then | 12:21 |
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boomer77 | put in the root user's password and i get an error message | 12:21 |
thingy | How does Ubuntu manage send out free cds to anyone who asks? Who bears the cost of media and postage? | 12:21 |
boomer77 | does anyone have any suggestions ? | 12:21 |
xryy | rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/partial': Is a directory | 12:22 |
Seveas | boomer77, it wants *YOUR* passwords | 12:22 |
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delire | thingy: Canonical | 12:22 |
nalioth | thingy: the sponsor/owner is a bazillionaire | 12:22 |
Seveas | boomer77: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo | 12:22 |
gm78 | boomer77, enter your user password, not the root password | 12:22 |
Seveas | xryy, that's ok | 12:22 |
lw | anyone? | 12:22 |
Seveas | xryy, try apt-get update now | 12:22 |
mhz | nalioth: "dead shunk" ? | 12:22 |
lw | how to check ram from console? | 12:22 |
delire | lw: top | 12:22 |
mhz | lw: /proc/ | 12:22 |
delire | lw: or free | 12:22 |
gm78 | thingy, Canonical sponsors Ubuntu, the owner is rich | 12:22 |
fatou | dmesg | 12:22 |
Seveas | lw, cat /proc/meminfo | 12:22 |
nalioth | mhz: all modern video cards (way back at least 4 years) are VESA compliant | 12:22 |
mhz | uh | 12:23 |
boomer77 | i entered the user's password and got "failed to run users-admin Child termeinated with 196 status | 12:23 |
nalioth | mhz: so you can drag out that ancient cirrus card and VESA will run it | 12:23 |
xryy | Seveas: done | 12:23 |
boomer77 | thanks for the url for root/sudo | 12:23 |
thingy | heh, I chose to download it and save Ubuntu the money! | 12:23 |
Seveas | boomer77, run sudo users-admin from a normal terminal, what happens? | 12:23 |
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Seveas | xryy, does dpkg -C still give that error? | 12:23 |
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xryy | yes | 12:23 |
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Seveas | :| | 12:23 |
delire | xryy: wow | 12:23 |
boomer77 | i got asked for a password and i put in my user's password | 12:24 |
Seveas | xryy, are you using unofficial repositories? | 12:24 |
Seveas | boomer77, and it worked..? | 12:24 |
boomer77 | and it says username is not in the sudoers file | 12:24 |
nalioth | Seveas: did the bulb just light up? | 12:24 |
boomer77 | and the prompt appeared again | 12:24 |
ufo- | would someone be kind enough to tell me if gwather works for him in Hoary? | 12:24 |
xryy | Seveas: hm, yes, or, im using the one that's in ubuntuguide.org | 12:24 |
Seveas | boomer77, then add it to the sudoers file as a user who can (the user created when installing the system can) | 12:24 |
Seveas | xryy, ubuntuguide.org is bad... | 12:25 |
nalioth | xryy: ubuntuguide will (and has) led you astray | 12:25 |
xryy | There someone doh | 12:25 |
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xryy | now im mad | 12:25 |
nalioth | xryy: hopefully it can be recovered from | 12:25 |
boomer77 | thanks - do I just add the name of the user to the end of the file ? | 12:25 |
xryy | hm | 12:25 |
xryy | should i reinstall ubuntu? | 12:25 |
MasterYoda | any one in here know anything about the network-manager package in breezy? | 12:25 |
Seveas | xryy, try: sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/available /var/lib/dpkg/available_old | 12:25 |
mhz | nalioth: thx for the tip, I'll try it on wednesday (when I'll be in front of the machine) | 12:26 |
delire | Seveas: could he cd into /var/lib/dpkg and mv available available.old? | 12:26 |
Seveas | xryy, and then apt-get update | 12:26 |
Seveas | delire, LOL!! | 12:26 |
delire | haha bet me to it | 12:26 |
Seveas | amazing... | 12:26 |
delire | ;) | 12:26 |
Seveas | Great minds DO think alike ;) | 12:26 |
nalioth | mhz: np, i have 2 ibooks (and 0 other machines) | 12:26 |
xryy | Seveas: done | 12:26 |
delire | hah | 12:26 |
Seveas | xryy, and, what does dpkg -C say? | 12:26 |
mhz | nalioth: that's why, tehn! | 12:27 |
mhz | then | 12:27 |
CarlFK | oh goodie - it happens in breezy too | 12:27 |
xryy | dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory | 12:27 |
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nalioth | Seveas: has someone been playing with your tanks EM shield? | 12:27 |
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ufo- | gweather is not working, not working on my hoary... does anyone have a working gweather in hoary or breezy, whatever...? | 12:27 |
Seveas | xryy, dpkg --record-avail -R /var/lib/apt/lists | 12:27 |
plod | dont use hoary! | 12:27 |
nalioth | CarlFK: nomasteryoda knows what he's getting into | 12:28 |
IFRFLYR | ufo- My weather does not work except under gkrellm - that works fine | 12:28 |
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xryy | dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory | 12:28 |
Seveas | :| | 12:28 |
Seveas | hang on... | 12:28 |
ufo- | IFRFLYR, great, let me just catch the gay that develops gweather | 12:28 |
ufo- | it's not working for months now.. I don't know whats up with that.. | 12:28 |
nalioth | Seveas: can xryy 'touch' a new one? | 12:28 |
IFRFLYR | Not so fast - it works on my...ahem...gentoo machine :) | 12:28 |
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ufo- | i had a fc4 installation before this one, and it didn't work there either | 12:29 |
IceDC571 | whats that make command to remove a program? i forget | 12:29 |
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ufo- | see if there's make uninstal | 12:29 |
ufo- | l | 12:29 |
delire | IceDC571: apt-get remove program | 12:29 |
xryy | Seveas and delire: thaks for the help, but i think im reinstalling | 12:30 |
ufo- | that not make | 12:30 |
delire | IceDC571: 'dpkg -P program' also | 12:30 |
ufo- | *'s | 12:30 |
nalioth | IceDC571: you shouldnt need a 'make' command to remove stuff. that depends on the packager including a 'clean' script (which lots don't ) | 12:30 |
delire | xryy: !! | 12:30 |
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Seveas | xryy, cd /var/lib/dpkg | 12:30 |
Seveas | xryy, wget http://ubuntu-nl.org/~dennis/available | 12:30 |
Tatster | Hi - can someone help me with a wierd Apache problem on Ubuntu? | 12:30 |
Seveas | that is a correct hoary available file | 12:30 |
nalioth | IceDC571: you should use "checkinstall" instead of "make install" so your apt can keep track of your stuff | 12:30 |
delire | Seveas: good thought.. | 12:30 |
IceDC571 | well, i did make install for wine, now i want to remove wine | 12:30 |
xryy | no, thank you, im just reinstalling | 12:30 |
Seveas | xryy, your call :) | 12:30 |
nalioth | IceDC571: good luck | 12:30 |
delire | xryy: this is fixable! | 12:30 |
ufo- | and apt-get remove wont help.. | 12:30 |
nalioth | IceDC571: if you have a "make clean" option in your wine build dir, that would be it | 12:31 |
IceDC571 | okay thanks nalioth | 12:31 |
nalioth | IceDC571: sorry, thats make uninstall | 12:31 |
uniq | xryy: try 'sudo dselect update' first. | 12:31 |
delire | IceDC571: for user compiled and installed programs you'll need to 'whereis program' and remove all those files if you don't have a 'make uninstall' option | 12:31 |
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nalioth | IceDC571: and in the future, use "checkinstall" (yes it sux for pkg maintenance, but its just fine for yer local system) instead of "make install" | 12:32 |
IceDC571 | delire: it works :).. damn im lucky they have an uninstall script for wine | 12:32 |
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delire | hehe | 12:32 |
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IceDC571 | make uninstall only works for the few apps that have an uninstall script im guessing | 12:33 |
delire | yes | 12:33 |
nalioth | IceDC571: yes corret | 12:33 |
unome | whereis! here's a new one to me, much better than find :) | 12:33 |
xryy | hm | 12:33 |
xryy | the dselect update works | 12:33 |
xryy | no problem anymore | 12:33 |
delire | haha | 12:34 |
nalioth | IceDC571: and that depends on the programmer not being lazy (the rule is "no uninstall script", usually) | 12:34 |
delire | uniq: nice one | 12:34 |
murphy | thanks guys | 12:34 |
murphy | Peace out | 12:34 |
uniq | delire: :) | 12:34 |
pressurem | hey, is anyone using asterisk pbx on ubuntu? | 12:34 |
delire | uniq: does that generate a /var/lib/dpkg/available? | 12:34 |
uniq | delire: yes. | 12:34 |
delire | uniq: good tip, cheers | 12:34 |
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xryy | thanks everybody that helped me ;) | 12:35 |
Seveas | good old dselect to the rescue | 12:36 |
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xryy | byebye | 12:38 |
xryy | but now | 12:38 |
xryy | i have another question.. | 12:38 |
xryy | my screensaver have a really bad fps, and i think there's something about the drivers, but i cant find any drivers for ati radeon 9600xt i apt | 12:39 |
xryy | i=in | 12:39 |
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delire | xryy: you can install the non free-software (but 0$) ATI drivers for that card or use the opensource drivers, though you will miss out on a few Graphical Processing Unit features like 'shaders' | 12:40 |
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delire | xryy: try 'sudo modprobe radeon' | 12:41 |
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lynx | xryy | 12:44 |
lynx | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto | 12:44 |
reisio | anybody getting spam from Betty__ ? | 12:44 |
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chombee | Hello - I wondered if anyone else had found that using gnome-menu-editor and smeg really messes up the GNOME menu in random ways, and if there's any way to reset the gnome menu? | 12:45 |
Kyral | How do you convert MP3s to OGM? | 12:45 |
Seveas | reisio, can you paste it to me in private | 12:45 |
reisio | Seveas: I'm not, someone else was | 12:46 |
Seveas | reisio, ah | 12:46 |
sjmurdoch | Kyral: Do you really want to do that? You will lose quality | 12:46 |
reisio | Seveas: bant in #gentoo :p | 12:46 |
reisio | kicked, rather | 12:46 |
reisio | erm, both :) | 12:46 |
chombee | Kyral - OGM? | 12:46 |
Kyral | nah :P | 12:46 |
nalioth | Seveas: do you need a date that badly? | 12:46 |
Kyral | nm | 12:46 |
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Seveas | reisio, you mean Betty__ ? | 12:46 |
reisio | ya | 12:46 |
Seveas | nalioth, lol no :) | 12:46 |
root__ | hi network nooby here. i am trying to network boot machines from a dhcp server . when i push f12 on the terminal it says make shure root path is configured ? anyone know how to configure DHCP | 12:46 |
Kyral | whatever open source audio format :D | 12:46 |
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reisio | ogg :p | 12:47 |
reisio | Kyral: get sox | 12:47 |
reisio | Kyral: sox.sf.net | 12:47 |
Kyral | yah yah yah :D | 12:47 |
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sjmurdoch | Kyral: You could convert them to FLAC | 12:47 |
CarlFK | root__ - what kind of netboot? | 12:47 |
nalioth | Kyral: its best to use oggenc (or other ogg rippeer) straight from the original cd | 12:47 |
sjmurdoch | They will get bigger though | 12:47 |
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Kyral | I need something that will xfer onto my iPod nicely :D | 12:47 |
zoople | hello all. need help finding Zinf on my system. how do i run it? | 12:47 |
Kyral | nalioth: ehhh, I don't HAVE original cds :D | 12:47 |
doonz | gtkpod | 12:47 |
nalioth | Kyral: does your 'pod run linux? | 12:47 |
root__ | dhcp thin client network boot | 12:47 |
reisio | zoople: ls /usr/bin | 12:47 |
Kyral | nalioth: Not yet :D | 12:47 |
reisio | zoople: ls /usr/bin | less, even | 12:48 |
zoople | k, and what am i looking for? | 12:48 |
nalioth | Kyral: well, to my knowlege, the 'pod only plays mp3z and aacs (and im not sure about mp3z) | 12:48 |
reisio | zoople: the name | 12:48 |
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CarlFK | root__ - here is close: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//LocalNetInstall | 12:48 |
zoople | doesnt have it there | 12:48 |
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Kyral | nalioth, it plays MP3s | 12:49 |
nalioth | Kyral: so your choices are aac and mp3 | 12:49 |
nalioth | Kyral: until you install linux on the 'pod than you can watch movies on it | 12:49 |
reisio | nalioth: took the words out of my mouth | 12:49 |
CarlFK | root__ - what distro are you trying to boot? | 12:49 |
reisio | zoople: anything in man zinf? | 12:49 |
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zoople | no manual entry for Zinf | 12:50 |
cafuego | And more importantly, why on earth are you IRCing as root? | 12:50 |
lsuactiafner | anyone here got a static 32bit mplayer binary that supports -vo x11? | 12:50 |
Kyral | Okay, I'm lazy | 12:50 |
Seveas | cafuego, can i talk to you in private for a sec? | 12:50 |
root__ | AWESOME thanks thats exactly what i was looking for | 12:50 |
cafuego | Seveas: Give me a few moments... | 12:50 |
Kyral | I just made a bash alias for "killall gnome-panel" | 12:50 |
nalioth | Kyral: great! now you're addicted (only takes one) | 12:51 |
reisio | heh | 12:51 |
root__ | ubuntu | 12:51 |
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Kyral | I have a big alias file, want to see? :P | 12:51 |
zoople | is there like a FAQ or begginers tutorial i should read? | 12:51 |
Kyral | I made an alias for "mount /media/anime" | 12:51 |
CarlFK | root__ - what makes you think you can do it? | 12:51 |
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nalioth | Kyral: nah, your aliases are incompatible with my aliases | 12:52 |
tiredbones | I used synaptic on a hoary system to install apache2 and php4.I have to say it really is messed up. | 12:52 |
delire | Kyral: my ~/.bashrc is 6 years old. i'd be a criminal to post it here ;) | 12:52 |
root__ | see i just have to make the dhcp server tell the clients what to do properly | 12:52 |
nalioth | zoople: https://wiki.ubuntu.com | 12:52 |
Kyral | lol | 12:52 |
root__ | because the clients are communicating with the server | 12:52 |
tkiesel | tiredbones: Did you also get libapache2-php4 ? | 12:52 |
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zoople | ok thanks. maybe i should read that | 12:52 |
CarlFK | root__ - um... like I said... | 12:53 |
nalioth | zoople: there is info there to boggle the mind | 12:53 |
CarlFK | root__ - what makes you think you can do it? | 12:53 |
tiredbones | tkiesel, yes | 12:53 |
reisio | zoople: so "zinf" doesn't run it? | 12:53 |
root__ | because my friend super linux nerd configured it | 12:53 |
zoople | nope | 12:53 |
root__ | then i wrecked it when i relocated the server | 12:53 |
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tkiesel | tiredbones: What's messed up about it? | 12:53 |
zoople | what directory am i in? | 12:53 |
zoople | /usr/bin? | 12:54 |
root__ | its looking for 192.168.1.104 | 12:54 |
reisio | zoople: what happens if you run "zinf" in a terminal? | 12:54 |
nalioth | zoople: at the prompt of a terminal, type "pwd" | 12:54 |
root__ | but the server is 192.168.1.101 | 12:54 |
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zoople | bash: zinf: command not found | 12:54 |
CarlFK | root__ - hmm. ok, lets start from the beginning... A is the server, B is a client. does B pxe net boot? | 12:54 |
reisio | zoople: hum, what makes you think you installed it? | 12:54 |
zoople | maybe i didnt | 12:54 |
tiredbones | tkiesel, when start the server it's looking for libphp4.so in /etc/apach2/modules/, but | 12:54 |
zoople | i could have done it wrong | 12:55 |
zoople | how do i install it? | 12:55 |
root__ | yes b has F12 network service boot | 12:55 |
reisio | I'm pretty sure "zinf" is the command | 12:55 |
tiredbones | there in /usr/lib/apache2/modules. | 12:55 |
root__ | theres actually 8 b's | 12:55 |
reisio | zoople: ask the channel - I don't use Ubuntu | 12:55 |
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zoople | oh ok..thanks | 12:55 |
CarlFK | root__ - one is enough ;) | 12:55 |
reisio | zoople: probably apt-get zinf install or something on commandline | 12:55 |
zoople | how do i install zinf..channel | 12:55 |
nalioth | zoople: open synaptic and search for zinf | 12:55 |
zoople | synaptic? | 12:55 |
CarlFK | root__ - is everthing on the same server? | 12:55 |
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tkiesel | tiredbones: Ahhh. Un momento. | 12:56 |
CarlFK | root__ - dhcp, tftp, nfs, whatever else | 12:56 |
nalioth | zoople: System > admin > synaptic (at the top left of your screen) | 12:56 |
root__ | no, theres a windows file server . and a terminal server | 12:56 |
root__ | which appers to be down | 12:56 |
CarlFK | root__ - does that have anything to do with your thin client boot problem? | 12:56 |
tiredbones | tkiesel, I tried to move libphp4.so to /etc/apache2/modules/ but now other modules can be found. | 12:56 |
tkiesel | tiredbones: Try this in a terminal. Not sure if it'll require sudo or not. Probably. ;) a2enmod php4 | 12:56 |
root__ | no complettly nothing :P | 12:56 |
zoople | got that openm | 12:57 |
CarlFK | ok, so keeping witht he current problem... | 12:57 |
CarlFK | root__ - is everthing on the same server? | 12:57 |
tiredbones | tkiesel, I don't use sudo. | 12:57 |
tkiesel | tiredbones: Root user then. Same difference. ;) | 12:57 |
root__ | yea everything is on the A terminal server . | 12:57 |
Jadugarr84 | are the mirimax backport servers down or is it just me? | 12:58 |
CarlFK | root__ - post your /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf to the paste page.. somneone know the URL? | 12:58 |
zoople | ok..zinf is not there | 12:58 |
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zoople | the only reason why i want is is that my xmms always freezes on me | 12:59 |
uniq | root__: the paste pakge is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl | 12:59 |
CarlFK | thanks | 12:59 |
tkiesel | CarlFK: It's in the channel topic. | 12:59 |
CarlFK | oh yeah... duh | 12:59 |
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nalioth | Jadugarr84: backports are trouble. up or down | 01:00 |
tiredbones | tkiesel, after excuting a2enmod php4 I tried apache2 -t and the server is still telling it can find | 01:00 |
nalioth | zoople: do you have universe and multiverse repositorys enabled? | 01:00 |
tiredbones | php4 modules. | 01:00 |
reisio | zoople: maybe try beep-media-player? | 01:00 |
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zoople | whats that | 01:00 |
nalioths_dog | zoople: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto | 01:00 |
tkiesel | tiredbones: You said you moved that .so file? Or did you copy it? *thinking* | 01:01 |
root__ | kan i just change the adresses to what it really is | 01:01 |
zoople | do i have beep? | 01:01 |
root__ | everything is set to 104 when it should be 101 | 01:01 |
nalioth | zoople: you need to enable universe and multiverse | 01:01 |
tiredbones | tkiesel, I copy it. | 01:01 |
nalioths_dog | zoople: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 | 01:01 |
CarlFK | root__ - you can do whatever you want, but if you follow our instructions you have a good cance of sucees ;) | 01:02 |
reisio | beep-media-player forked from XMMS - it has gtk2 :) | 01:02 |
uniq | root__: sure, why not just try? if it fails you can always change back :) | 01:02 |
RealmMaster | Is there a dual booting windows and ubuntu how-two someone can point me to? | 01:02 |
Jadugarr84 | nevermind the backports are up but really slow today, i think the webpage is down though | 01:02 |
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CarlFK | root__ I have a feeling you can delete some lines | 01:02 |
Jesse1 | any1 know where i can get the wm10 codec's from? | 01:02 |
root__ | ok ill post the config file . | 01:02 |
tkiesel | tiredbones: I'm not quite sure then. Have you tried searchign the forums for a clue? 90+% of my problems have been solved that way. Searchign for the name of that .so file will probably net some results. | 01:02 |
CarlFK | root__ - and I would like to see how your bud did it - I didn't think ubuntu supported it | 01:02 |
reisio | Jesse1: win32codecs doesn't handle it? | 01:03 |
uniq | tiredbones: what's your problem? | 01:03 |
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Jesse1 | reisio, no it lets me play all others bar windows media 10 | 01:03 |
reisio | Jesse1: downer :/ | 01:03 |
CarlFK | root__ - so... please post your /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ | 01:03 |
tiredbones | uniq, the apache2 server is trying to find libphp4.so in /etc/apache2/modules/, but | 01:04 |
zoople | W: GPG error: http://au.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> | 01:04 |
root__ | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/267 | 01:04 |
uniq | root__: yes, change to .101 | 01:04 |
tiredbones | that module is in /usr/lib/apache2/moudules/ | 01:04 |
uniq | that's my suggestion. | 01:04 |
CarlFK | root__ - how did the IP of BoxA change from 104 to 101? | 01:05 |
tiredbones | when I copy is over to where apache2 wants it | 01:05 |
Jesse1 | guess no one knows where to get it from :( | 01:05 |
tiredbones | I get another php4 module not foound. | 01:05 |
nalioth | RealmMaster: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo | 01:05 |
tkiesel | jesse1: One moment. | 01:06 |
tiredbones | It looks like synaptic is a little confuse. | 01:06 |
RealmMaster | nalioth: thank you =) | 01:06 |
pinko | aaxine is better than bad... it's good | 01:06 |
root__ | i moved it from a hub to the router back to the hub | 01:06 |
uniq | tiredbones: copying shouldn't be necessary | 01:06 |
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CarlFK | root__ - um... BoxA should have a static IP. do you have a 2nd dhcp server other than BoxA? | 01:07 |
tkiesel | Jesse1: Tried here? http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html | 01:07 |
tiredbones | uniq, ok what do I do to solve this problem? | 01:07 |
root__ | maybe how would i know ? i have some kinda loop protocol ? | 01:07 |
tiredbones | uniq, the server can find php4 files. | 01:08 |
CarlFK | root__ - what are you callling "the router" ? | 01:08 |
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Kyral | Fear me! For I have like 12 torrents lined up to download while i am away! | 01:08 |
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root__ | linksys wireless 8 banger | 01:08 |
CarlFK | root__ - I have a feeling the 101/104 problem is just the tip | 01:08 |
CarlFK | root__ - default install of the linksys? | 01:08 |
root__ | yea | 01:08 |
remyforbes777 | /quit | 01:09 |
root__ | he said to me dont turn this machhine off. or move it around . | 01:09 |
CarlFK | root__ - yeah.. you need to turn off it's dhcp | 01:09 |
uniq | tiredbones: how did you install apache and php? | 01:09 |
root__ | oh yah | 01:09 |
Jesse1 | tkiesel, i dont really want to have to download 10 mb if its not in there and im using totem | 01:09 |
root__ | cause its trying to boot from the linksys DHCP | 01:09 |
CarlFK | root__ - basicaly. | 01:09 |
tiredbones | uniq, I used synaptic on a hoary system. | 01:09 |
root__ | so. its set to auto dhcp. the other options are static , Ppoe . ect .. | 01:11 |
uniq | tiredbones: then php should just work. | 01:11 |
uniq | root__: look for LAN settings. looks like that is WAN settings. | 01:11 |
zoople | argh..zinf freezes too. does linux have a problem with files with spaces? | 01:11 |
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Seveas | zoople, no | 01:12 |
reisio | no... | 01:12 |
uniq | tiredbones: you can try 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall libapache2-mod-php4' in the console. | 01:12 |
nalioth | zoople: yes | 01:12 |
Seveas | but badly coded programs might... | 01:12 |
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tiredbones | uniq, well, when I enter apache2 -t I get a failure tell met that libphp4.so can not be found. | 01:12 |
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CarlFK | root__ once you get the linksys dhcp turned off, I get the feeling that BoxA needs to be given a static IP: 192.168.1.104, but if the linksys is indeed your lan's gateway to the internet, then BoxA, dhcpd.conf, option routers 192.168.1.1( the linksys's IP?) | 01:12 |
revelater | hello | 01:12 |
reisio | hello | 01:12 |
Kyral | hello | 01:12 |
twistymcgee | hi everyone | 01:12 |
revelater | anyond here know how to change the magic cumbers? | 01:12 |
revelater | numbers | 01:12 |
revelater | :P | 01:12 |
tkiesel | zoople: Yes and no. Does Linux have a problem with spaces in the filename? No. Do you need to be careful about spaces in filenames when working in the terminal? yes. | 01:13 |
uniq | tiredbones: oh. ok. that's telling you that you've changed sometihng in the config. | 01:13 |
tiredbones | uniq, that is why I move libphp4.so to where apchae2 was looking for it. | 01:13 |
CarlFK | root__ - I think you need to get your bud on the phone/chat/whatever - im sure we could get you hooked up, but buddy would be able to do it way quicker | 01:13 |
root__ | box A is 101. and its configured as 104 | 01:13 |
root__ | i didnt adjust the settings on the linksys before . so i dont know if i should tamper | 01:13 |
CarlFK | root__ - any idea how A chaned from 104 to 101? | 01:13 |
revelater | root__: you shouldn't be running as root :P | 01:14 |
root__ | why ? | 01:14 |
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tiredbones | uniq, yes I did. I add a LoadModule directive for php4 as per instructions. | 01:14 |
revelater | root__: its unsecure in irssi | 01:14 |
uniq | tiredbones: remove it. | 01:14 |
revelater | irc | 01:14 |
twistymcgee | anyone know how i can get rhythmbox to accept mp3 files? whenever i try to import a folder all my files are greyed out | 01:14 |
root__ | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh | 01:14 |
uniq | tiredbones: remove the bit you added. | 01:14 |
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root__ | ok bye thanks for help. going to fix my network . :) | 01:14 |
revelater | root__: just change your nick so its not so obviouse | 01:14 |
zoople | ok..do i need to install an mp3 plugin | 01:14 |
uniq | tiredbones: and try apache2 -t again. | 01:14 |
root__ | back later | 01:15 |
CarlFK | root__ - so whate | 01:15 |
CarlFK | hang.. rats. | 01:15 |
KhaBal | Anyone have a working souncard C-Media PCI CMI 8738 working? | 01:15 |
tiredbones | uniq, One second, I'll give it a shot. | 01:15 |
Strife | so, I was a dumb ass and tried to upgrade to breezy... now when I tried to downgrade back to hoary, it decided that gdm shouldn't work, and worse, now I can't even boot | 01:15 |
revelater | anywho, anybody know how to find the magic numbers of a file and make the system recognze it? | 01:15 |
nalioth | twistymcgee: have you enabled universe and multiverse? | 01:15 |
twistymcgee | yes | 01:15 |
Strife | basically, I get a kernel panic because now the kernel doesn't recognize sata, it seems | 01:15 |
twistymcgee | i followed the instructions on the unofficial howto | 01:15 |
tkiesel | Strife: Downgrading is a hard road to trod, I've been told. | 01:15 |
nalioth | twistymcgee: installed gstreamer0.8-mad? | 01:15 |
CarlFK | Strife - no problme. just install hoary over the top ;) | 01:15 |
nalioth | twistymcgee: oh no! stay away from ubuntuguide | 01:16 |
Strife | hmm | 01:16 |
twistymcgee | nalioth: yup...it's installed | 01:16 |
andersbr | Hello again. Can anyone point me to a tutorial for backing up an entire HDD partition? I want to do something equivalent to Norton Ghost on the cheap. | 01:16 |
Strife | CarlFK: hmm, so you don't think any weird errors would occur if I just reinstalled without formatting? | 01:16 |
nalioth | twistymcgee: ubuntuguide will lead to system breakage | 01:16 |
twistymcgee | really? | 01:16 |
revelater | anyone?? | 01:16 |
Seveas | Strife, you're out of luck, reinstalling is the only easy option | 01:16 |
nalioth | twistymcgee: yes, the use of unofficial repositories, for one | 01:17 |
andersbr | Ubuntuguide bad? Say it ain't so! | 01:17 |
Strife | Seveas: right, which is what I had figured anyway, but should I reformat, or is it ok to just reinstall without reformatting? | 01:17 |
revelater | AfterShock: you awake? | 01:17 |
CarlFK | Strife - well, re-install will include formatting, so... | 01:17 |
tiredbones | uniq, Ok that worked. Can you explain why I didn't need it? | 01:17 |
Burgundavia | tweakism, ubuntuguide must be taken with a large grain of salt | 01:17 |
uniq | andersbr: take a look at partimage. it can be downloaded from synaptic / apt-get. http://www.partimage.org/ | 01:17 |
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Seveas | Strife, reformatting would be better | 01:17 |
CarlFK | Strife - don't expect to save any of the old config. | 01:17 |
revelater | guess not | 01:18 |
tkiesel | tiredbones: Synaptic will usually configure everything for you. The basics at least. It set up Apache to use php4 for you. No extra steps needed. :) | 01:18 |
Seveas | Don't try to even - there may be breezy-specifics in the config that Hoary will b0rk about | 01:18 |
twistymcgee | i've had good luck with ubuntuguide so far | 01:18 |
twistymcgee | except with the rhythmbox of course | 01:18 |
nalioth | twistymcgee: it's only a matter of time | 01:18 |
uniq | tiredbones: because it's added automatically by the php4 installation. the reason you don't see it is that it's loaded from /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php4.load | 01:18 |
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twistymcgee | nalioth: so what repos should be enabled? | 01:19 |
cafuego | !why is there no long factoid that matches by question and should thus on the pr3vious code have told me I'm a moron, but won't now? | 01:19 |
ubotu | cafuego: what are you talking about? | 01:19 |
revelater | anyone know how to edit mime? | 01:19 |
nalioths_dog | twistymcgee: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 | 01:19 |
tiredbones | tkiesel,uniq - thanks for the reply. | 01:19 |
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tiredbones | tkiesel, thanks for the reply. | 01:19 |
tiredbones | uniq - thanks for the reply. | 01:19 |
tkiesel | tiredbones: No problem. | 01:19 |
cafuego | There we go. | 01:19 |
uniq | tiredbones: happy to help. :) | 01:20 |
cafuego | ubotu: goo'boy | 01:20 |
ubotu | Aww, thanks dad. | 01:20 |
tkiesel | revelater: I'm still trying to figure out magic numbers. | 01:20 |
nalioth | twistymcgee: there is nothing wrong with unofficial repos IF YOU USE THEM ONCE for the program you are after, then disable them | 01:20 |
tkiesel | revelater: i.e. What you mean by magic numbers. | 01:20 |
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KhaBal | does the command alsa work ? | 01:20 |
KhaBal | on ubuntu? | 01:20 |
revelater | tkiesel: its the first 4bytes of a file that identify it.. | 01:20 |
twistymcgee | nalioth: ok i'll have a read of those | 01:20 |
KhaBal | omg, it says here to get your sound card working the command alsa would fix it | 01:20 |
twistymcgee | nalioth: any ideas in the meantime as to the rhythmbox issue? | 01:21 |
IFRFLYR | Buenos. Another question - anyone have their internal Memory Stick readers working on a notebook? | 01:21 |
twistymcgee | or recommend something equivalent? | 01:21 |
lsuactiafner | how do i make my mouse move faster? | 01:21 |
nalioth | twistymcgee: i'm not sure, i have every plugin i could find installed on my box | 01:21 |
lsuactiafner | in X? | 01:21 |
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IFRFLYR | Isuactiafner, move your fingers more rapidly | 01:21 |
tkiesel | revelater: No clue here. | 01:21 |
nalioth | twistymcgee: and everything i have works (except wmv9/10) | 01:21 |
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budluva | lsuactiafner, maybe system > preferences > mouse? | 01:21 |
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mike | ok network problem guy here. back | 01:22 |
CarlFK | mike - were you root__? | 01:23 |
mike | the thin client (b) says error ! no root path | 01:23 |
mike | yes . | 01:23 |
CarlFK | mike - any idea how A chaned from 104 to 101? | 01:23 |
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mike | no idea man. | 01:23 |
IFRFLYR | So, perhaps stated better: if you insert a memory stick card in an internal card reader, what should it mount as? | 01:23 |
caonex | Seveas, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/304946, can you look at that? | 01:24 |
lsuactiafner | lol | 01:24 |
mike | ill do an ifconfig | 01:24 |
lsuactiafner | bleh i donthave system/preferances.. | 01:24 |
mike | yup 101 | 01:24 |
KhaBal | can anyone please help me? | 01:24 |
lsuactiafner | whats the gnome app called? | 01:24 |
KhaBal | ive just looked up a site on c-media drivers for linux http://www.cmedia.com.tw/download/OS-e-cmi8738_linux.htm | 01:24 |
CarlFK | mike - I have a feeling BoxA is set get its IP from a dhcp server, maybe even itself. | 01:24 |
KhaBal | it shows download 1,2,3 do i download all 3 or one of 3? | 01:25 |
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KhaBal | :( no ones helping | 01:26 |
CarlFK | mike - dig around in A's network config and figure out how to change A's IP from 101 back to 104 | 01:26 |
nalioth | KhaBal: patience | 01:26 |
KhaBal | nalioth: can you help me nalioth? please | 01:26 |
IFRFLYR | KhaBal, you're actually not being entirely clear. Try stating the question in one go, as succinctly (briefly) as possible | 01:26 |
KhaBal | ok | 01:27 |
CarlFK | mike - was B going to boot a version of Ubunto, or LTSP (linux terminal server projct ) | 01:27 |
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nalioth | KhaBal: have a little patience, the brain(s) are at work | 01:27 |
mike | ubunto | 01:27 |
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mike | we had it so all the clients can boot from 1 user | 01:27 |
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quam | is there a way to link the terminal copy and paste crap with x copy and paste? if i highlight something in terminal, i can only shift+insert it into other terminal windows :( | 01:27 |
mike | yah i think i ll change the addresses back to 104 | 01:28 |
lsuactiafner | quam : use shift when copy+pasting | 01:28 |
KhaBal | Im having problems with my sound card (C-Media CMI 8738) on linux, and in order to fix it I have looked up the main site for the driver updates for linux sound cards from here: http://www.cmedia.com.tw/download/OS-e-cmi8738_linux.htm it shows here download 1,2,3 do i just download 1 of 3 of them or all 3? | 01:28 |
CarlFK | mike - can you post your /etc/fstab /etc/exprots and something/default | 01:28 |
nalioth | KhaBal: please tell us what you are trying to do, and what these files are supposed to do. | 01:28 |
KhaBal | nalioth: they are dirver updates | 01:28 |
nalioth | KhaBal: they appear to be a driver and 2 patches, but i'm not sure which (or all) you need | 01:29 |
quam | lsu: holding down shift doesnt do anything :P | 01:29 |
dolny | what terminal is the most customizable/best ? | 01:29 |
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dolny | konsole is cool but i cant delete the boundaries totally | 01:29 |
mike | meeting brb | 01:29 |
nalioth | dolny: that is a question to start fires | 01:29 |
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dolny | :) | 01:29 |
KhaBal | nalioth: there are instructions underneath these writings, but ?I dont really understand | 01:29 |
quam | lsuactiafner: i dont have trouble pasting from x into terminals, i have trouble pasting stuff from terminals into x programs | 01:29 |
nalioth | dolny: try eterm | 01:30 |
dolny | anyway i like konsole but i cant delete the borders - they stay thin | 01:30 |
nalioth | KhaBal: what kind of system are you running? distro, version, etc | 01:30 |
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dolny | nalioth: ok gonna check it now | 01:30 |
KhaBal | nalioth: the latest version of ubuntu | 01:30 |
mike | make sure the option-root path is specified ? | 01:30 |
nilsl | If I want to compile my own packages (that I download), what do I need? | 01:30 |
nalioth | anyone can understand those files for khabal? i havent a clue | 01:30 |
nalioth | nilsl: 1: install "build-essential" 2: install "checkinstall" (both can be found in the repos) | 01:31 |
KhaBal | file1: is the driver | 01:31 |
KhaBal | and the 2 other ones are patches | 01:31 |
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KhaBal | why do you need a patch for a driver? | 01:31 |
tkiesel | nalioth: I've got to go now, but some investigation into wether KhaBal really needs the new driver or not might be good. | 01:31 |
nalioth | KhaBal: and that is what i'm not sure on | 01:31 |
tkiesel | Take care all! | 01:32 |
nalioth | tkiesel: please start detecting | 01:32 |
nilsl | nalioth: Thx. | 01:32 |
quam | lsuactiafner: hrm, heh, i pressed the middle mouse button on accident and it did what i wanted it to :P thanks anyway | 01:32 |
nalioth | crap | 01:32 |
djs | KhaBal, I think files 2 and 3 are different patches for different kernels | 01:32 |
k40z | hi.. using Ndiswrapper for USB wifi, works fine, but *always* loses connection after 10-30 minutes - any ideas?? | 01:32 |
tkiesel | nalioth: Wish I could. but the wife needs me. | 01:32 |
nalioth | tkiesel: be safe | 01:32 |
Jesse1 | nalioth, why crap? | 01:32 |
nalioth | Seveas: you still here? | 01:32 |
KhaBal | djs: hmm, which one would suit the latest version of ubuntu? | 01:33 |
nalioth | Jesse1: cuz i can't read as fast as this thing scrolls | 01:33 |
pedingto | Is there a way to roll back ubuntu at all? | 01:33 |
Jesse1 | lol | 01:33 |
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nalioth | djs: thats what i suspected also, but idk nuthin about kernels | 01:33 |
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nalioth | pedingto: reinstall | 01:33 |
hazem_ | i want to convert file from pdf to txt or doc or any thing to edit it | 01:33 |
hazem_ | so how i can do it? | 01:33 |
pedingto | Lol, yeah I assumed that. | 01:33 |
dolny | how can i hide the upper tray in Eterm? I mean that thing with 'eterm' 'font' 'background' 'terminal' thing | 01:34 |
nalioth | pedingto: there is a way, but i'm sure reinsalling is easier | 01:34 |
dolny | i want it to look as a part of the desktop | 01:34 |
nalioth | pedingto: and quicker (and less swearing) | 01:34 |
pedingto | Yeah I think I'll do that :) | 01:34 |
Suepahfly | hazem_, pdf in non editable unless u have adobe | 01:34 |
pedingto | lol - I've sworn enough already ;) | 01:34 |
dolny | nalioth: how can i hide the menu? in eterm | 01:34 |
KhaBal | i think file 3 is 2.6 and above | 01:34 |
djs | KhaBal, The one with 2.6.4 (file03) would be better but I'd be concerned that there isn't an exact match (ie. 2.6 10) | 01:34 |
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{{Snake] ] | in which directory this I cosay source in ubuntu?? | 01:35 |
Burgundavia | pedingto, currently the underlying package system doesn't support it. It is something that is on the roadmap for the future | 01:35 |
nalioth | dolny: i'm not sure if the ubuntu version can do that (or any version) | 01:35 |
tiredbones | Before installing apache2 I completely removed apache, yet I still see the old server "ServerRoot" path. Which was /var/www. Shouldn't it have been removed? | 01:35 |
pedingto | Ahh okay Burgun :) | 01:35 |
dolny | damn, because its cool beside that | 01:35 |
dolny | ;] | 01:35 |
k40z | hazem_ - you can highlight the text and paste it somewhere else, i reckon | 01:35 |
nalioth | KhaBal: ask Seveas when he gets back | 01:35 |
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nalioth | dolny: yes, the random chngng bkrd is way cool | 01:36 |
hazem_ | k40z: can't do it :) | 01:36 |
KhaBal | nalioth: whos Seveas? | 01:36 |
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nalioth | KhaBal: one of the real brains of this channel | 01:36 |
nalioth | i am just a neuron | 01:36 |
dolny | well, i use transparency :D and delete all borders so i can write on the desktop but i cant hide borders in Konsole... and I can't hide the menubar in Eterm...doh :) | 01:36 |
Ironfrost | does anyone know a decent swf to avi converter for Linux? | 01:37 |
KhaBal | nalioth: who know when he'd be back | 01:37 |
kishkumen | ok, i am trying to get mysql set up on my box and i keep on getting this | 01:37 |
kishkumen | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/268 | 01:37 |
CarlFK | Ironfrost - transcode and mencoder are the 2 best | 01:37 |
budluva | can someone help me with a dvd burning problem? it seems my burner is not reaching top burning speeds in ubuntu, i can only burn dvd's at 3x, while i have 8x media and a 16x burner, how do i fix this? | 01:38 |
thingy | If the screensaver has activated, should it be possible to switch to a console? Can anyone confirm this for me? | 01:38 |
budluva | im using k3b if that helps | 01:38 |
CarlFK | kishkumen - no spacec between u and root | 01:38 |
Ironfrost | does Transcode really convert from Flash? | 01:39 |
ttyS0 | is it any another good front-end to wvdial (except gnome-ppp) ? :) | 01:39 |
k40z | hazem_ you using linux w/ X, yea? highlight the text and use the middle buttom of your mouse to paste what is highlighted | 01:39 |
CarlFK | Ironfrost - oh.. flash.. probably not | 01:39 |
kvidell | my oh my | 01:39 |
kvidell | the admins on this network sure are talkative aren't they? :) hehe. I like that though. | 01:39 |
nalioth | KhaBal: no i dont | 01:39 |
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hazem_ | k40z: any way thx bro i found answer :) betatester hazem_: u can try with the command ps2ascii | 01:40 |
kishkumen | CarlFK: i still get an error | 01:40 |
kishkumen | CarlFK: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/269 | 01:40 |
CarlFK | kishkumen - is mysql running on the same box? | 01:41 |
kishkumen | CarlFK: yes | 01:41 |
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CarlFK | try mysqladmin -uroot -ptrustno1 | 01:42 |
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lsuactiafner | can xterm be transparent? | 01:42 |
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boow | xterm dont thinkso try aterm | 01:42 |
lsuactiafner | bleh | 01:43 |
nalioth | budluva: ya got a brand new burner? | 01:43 |
lsuactiafner | eterm can do it tho | 01:43 |
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Fazer | Hello, does anyone here recommend something better than abi word? | 01:43 |
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nalioth | Fazer: what could be BETTER than abiword? | 01:44 |
boow | i have a transparent aterm in archlinux | 01:44 |
Fazer | nalioth: Heh, i see your point. | 01:44 |
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nalioth | Fazer: light(relatively)weight RTF writer? | 01:44 |
kishkumen | CarlFK: this is what I get | 01:44 |
kishkumen | CarlFK: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/270 | 01:44 |
erkan_ | you know when you look up something on gnome? it shows the file thats being runned on the taskbar? i accesedenitly deleted it | 01:44 |
erkan_ | how do i make it so i reapeares? | 01:44 |
k40z | wireless loses connection: dmesg output = wlan0: no IPv6 routers present -- what to do? | 01:45 |
lsuactiafner | Fazer : abiword is sexy ok. | 01:45 |
boow | what about OOO | 01:45 |
CarlFK | try mysqladmin -uroot -p | 01:45 |
lsuactiafner | OO is ugly | 01:45 |
nalioth | Fazer: lsuactiafner especially if you compile it yourself with --with-sexy-voice-interaction enabled | 01:45 |
nalioth | OO is ugly and ponderous | 01:46 |
bassinboy | Geez, nothing is working.... vlc looked like it was almost about to open a DVD, but it crashed | 01:46 |
lsuactiafner | hmmm | 01:46 |
lsuactiafner | nalioth : when i first came to this channel i was bashed for talkin sheet.. but now everyone is talkin sheet with me.. | 01:46 |
lsuactiafner | lol | 01:46 |
lsuactiafner | i ruined it | 01:46 |
lsuactiafner | hehe | 01:46 |
nalioth | lsuactiafner: bad timing on me hitting the enter button | 01:47 |
boow | i compile vlc it was pretty unstable | 01:47 |
GrammatonCleric | conformer! | 01:47 |
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GrammatonCleric | =) | 01:47 |
goldfish | boow: why not use apt-get ? | 01:47 |
boow | this was on slackware | 01:47 |
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goldfish | ah | 01:47 |
goldfish | i see :) | 01:47 |
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KhaBal | im back | 01:47 |
Fazer | wb | 01:48 |
jode | Hi, is there any file sharing programs for ubuntu? | 01:48 |
GrammatonCleric | emule and amule | 01:48 |
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nalioth | jode: plenty | 01:48 |
jode | I tried to apt-get it and couldn't | 01:48 |
boow | anyone get gstreamer to work with dvds | 01:48 |
nalioth | jode: gtk-gnutella | 01:48 |
nalioth | jode: bittorrent | 01:48 |
nalioth | boow: my a/v works great except for wmv9/10 | 01:49 |
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jode | can I apt-get them? | 01:49 |
kab | I have my / partition with reiserfs, and today I upgrade my ubuntu system, and when I reboot i get a ugly kernel panic, can you help me? | 01:49 |
nalioth | jode: do you have universe adn multiverse repos enabled? | 01:49 |
GrammatonCleric | jode: yes but you might need the extra repos | 01:49 |
boow | do you have a initrd | 01:49 |
kab | i was search in google, but I cant make a good initrd image with mkinitrd | 01:49 |
jode | no, I don't know how | 01:49 |
nalioths_dog | jode: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto | 01:50 |
nalioths_dog | jode: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 | 01:50 |
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nalioth | synd, dullard of feline dentifrice | 01:50 |
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synd | woRd | 01:50 |
Ironfrost | jode: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories | 01:50 |
GrammatonCleric | jode: adding the extra repos will sovle most of your apt-get install whatever needs... | 01:50 |
nalioth | synd: that means, hey howzit goin? | 01:50 |
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Ironfrost | then http://ubuntuguide.org/#azureus for the filesharing section | 01:51 |
nalioth | Ironfrost: please don't recommend ubuntuguide | 01:51 |
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Ironfrost | nalioth: why not? | 01:51 |
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synd | nalioth: i told you them old tymer references g over my hdead | 01:51 |
boow | is there a jre.deb | 01:51 |
Ironfrost | (I'm not disagreeing, just wondering) | 01:51 |
nalioth | Ironfrost: see #3 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines | 01:51 |
jode | ok, thanks alot!!!!!!!!! | 01:51 |
AfrOTRokHE | hi all | 01:51 |
AfrOTRokHE | =) | 01:51 |
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nalioth | synd: "look what the cat dragged in" dullard of feline dentifrice | 01:51 |
Ironfrost | OK, fair enough | 01:52 |
AfrOTRokHE | can somebody tell me what command i need to change my warty to hoary? | 01:52 |
AfrOTRokHE | o0? | 01:52 |
CarlFK | ok, here is a "screen shot" of my "multiseat" error http://dev.personnelware.com/carl/temp/Jun27/p1010004.jpg | 01:52 |
KhaBal | can anyone name some desktop thingies bnesides KDE and gnome? | 01:52 |
synd | bleh i love ubuntuguide.org | 01:52 |
KhaBal | there was fluxbox | 01:52 |
boow | i'd rather have a java package then the installer from sun | 01:52 |
KhaBal | yes thats the one! | 01:52 |
CarlFK | i get this with both hoary and breezy | 01:52 |
nalioth | KhaBal: enlightenment, xfce4, fluxbox, openbox, more more more | 01:52 |
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synd | ratpoison | 01:53 |
AfrOTRokHE | anybody? | 01:53 |
nalioths_dog | AfrOTRokHE: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 | 01:53 |
thaytan | anyone know of any strange hard disk corruption issues with 2.6.10-5? | 01:53 |
nalioths_dog | AfrOTRokHE: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto | 01:53 |
AfrOTRokHE | nalioths_dog: thanks man | 01:53 |
AfrOTRokHE | =) | 01:53 |
nalioth | AfrOTRokHE: you do those things, and update your apt-get, you'll move from warty to hoary | 01:53 |
AfrOTRokHE | nalioth. then? i need make apt-get dist-upgrade or something else? | 01:54 |
synd | nalioth gimme the ubuntugods url | 01:54 |
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CarlFK | AfrOTRokHE - are you ready to trash your system beyond repair? | 01:54 |
AfrOTRokHE | CarlFK: never ready, but i'm prepared | 01:54 |
AfrOTRokHE | =P | 01:54 |
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nalioth | CarlFK: trash? changing sources in my list and upgrading worked fine for me | 01:54 |
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CarlFK | nalioth - as long as someone is ready.. good. if they are not ready, then they shouldn't | 01:55 |
nalioth | CarlFK: he asked for the procedure | 01:55 |
zoople | ok...getting there. next thing. how do i see my windows NTFS partition from linux | 01:55 |
boow | ubuntu is cool vs's sarges 14 cd's | 01:55 |
CarlFK | oh wayit.. to hoary, not from hoary... | 01:55 |
nalioth | CarlFK: he'd have to know there was a procedure to ask about it | 01:55 |
CarlFK | nm... I was thinking to breezy | 01:55 |
nalioth | AfrOTRokHE: continue operations | 01:56 |
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nalioth | AfrOTRokHE: you'll be fine | 01:56 |
CarlFK | zoople - seeing is easy.. do you want to write to it? | 01:56 |
KhaBal | anyone know why fluxbox need fluxconf? | 01:56 |
zoople | nope | 01:56 |
nalioths_dog | zoople: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically | 01:56 |
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KhaBal | good morning CarlFK | 01:56 |
zoople | that causes problems ive heard | 01:56 |
CarlFK | hi KhaBal | 01:56 |
nalioth | zoople: you are correct (total data loss problems) | 01:56 |
KhaBal | what fluxconf? | 01:57 |
boow | zoople, modprobe ntfs then youll have to edit fstab | 01:57 |
KhaBal | nalioth: fluxconf deletes everything? | 01:57 |
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CarlFK | aww crap.. my server isn't where my server was... | 01:57 |
zoople | boow: i dont know what that means | 01:57 |
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zoople-newbie | :p | 01:57 |
nalioth | KhaBal: i have no clue what you are on about. most -conf files tell the program they belong to what to do/how to act | 01:57 |
boow | sudo modprobe ntfs | 01:57 |
CarlFK | http://pictures.foxshare.net/carl/temp/Jun27/p1010004.jpg - there is the error I am getting | 01:57 |
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KhaBal | oh sry | 01:58 |
nalioth | zoople-newbie: read what nalioths_dog said above | 01:58 |
zoople-newbie | and what is fstab | 01:58 |
synd | nalioth, email sent to mez | 01:58 |
nalioth | zoople-newbie: File System TABle | 01:58 |
boow | /etc/fstab | 01:58 |
zoople-newbie | ah ok. how do i do that | 01:58 |
cafuego | Note that 'fdisk -l' doesn't list my sata drives. | 01:58 |
nalioth | zoople-newbie: tells your linux where all the data is, and how you want to interact with said data | 01:58 |
zoople-newbie | ah ok. so i did the sudo thing. now what | 01:59 |
nalioth | zoople-newbie: read above to waht nalioths_dog said to you | 01:59 |
CarlFK | cafuego - wow. I didn't know you could do that (no dev/x) | 01:59 |
lsuactiafner | how do i make ubuntu not install a dependancy? | 01:59 |
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cafuego | CarlFK: Ey? | 01:59 |
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Burgundavia | lsuactiafner, why? | 01:59 |
CarlFK | cafuego - I knew about fdisk -l /dev/hda, but not just -l | 01:59 |
cafuego | CarlFK: <heh> | 01:59 |
lsuactiafner | i do apt-get install mplayer-fonts but i dont want the ubuntu package, i compile my own mpayer | 02:00 |
lsuactiafner | mplayer-fonts is one package i want for something else.. | 02:00 |
zoople-newbie | i just see text | 02:00 |
lsuactiafner | but i need to disable the dependancy mplayer64 | 02:00 |
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zoople-newbie | http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab | 02:00 |
Nameeater | does ubuntu have poor external modem support? | 02:00 |
nalioth | zoople-newbie: can you use a terminal? | 02:01 |
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zoople-newbie | evidently not | 02:01 |
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zoople-newbie | so do i just copy and paste that into the terminal? | 02:01 |
nalioth | zoople-newbie: gimme a minute | 02:01 |
achy | Hi, i installed gcursor and dowload a cople of cursor themes from gmone look but i cant install tmen any help? | 02:01 |
cafuego | zoople-newbie: Open a terminal, run 'wget -c http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab' | 02:01 |
zoople-newbie | wow..ok | 02:02 |
nalioth | zoople-newbie: go to Applications > System Tools > Terminal (and open a terminal) | 02:02 |
cafuego | zoople-newbie: Then run 'sudo sh ./windows_fstab' | 02:02 |
Sysace | hey guys.. got something going on with my firefox.. re-installation doesn't work for either ver 1.0.2 or 1.0.4... fails with the error: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Can anybody please help??? | 02:02 |
zoople-newbie | ok that run | 02:02 |
lsuactiafner | so how do i disbale dependancy checkin with apt-get? | 02:02 |
nalioth | Sysace: back up the libmozjs.so and try again | 02:02 |
zoople-newbie | and i said no to making it writiable | 02:02 |
nalioth | zoople-newbie: ok then | 02:03 |
zoople-newbie | wow | 02:03 |
zoople-newbie | there they are | 02:03 |
zoople-newbie | THANKS!! | 02:03 |
Sysace | nalioth: backup and try what again? I've completely removed it and tried re-installing v1.0.2.. failed, removed and reinstalled 1.0.4 and still failing. :( | 02:03 |
zoople-newbie | you guys have been aweseom | 02:03 |
nalioth | zoople-newbie: you just executed a "shell script" | 02:03 |
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zoople-newbie | ah ok | 02:04 |
nalioth | Sysace: its complaining about that libmozjs.so, right? if libmozjs.so still exists, back it up and try again | 02:04 |
zoople-newbie | cool | 02:04 |
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nalioth | zoople-newbie: be careful about using "sudo" (bad instructions following it can wreck your system) | 02:04 |
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nalioth | zoople-newbie: when taking instructions from in here (or any channel) don't execute them right away | 02:05 |
nalioth | zoople-newbie: cuz if someone gives out evil instructions, some(body)one will let you know quickly | 02:05 |
AfrOTRokHE | nalioth: thanks man, it's workin' | 02:05 |
AfrOTRokHE | =) | 02:05 |
achy | anyone | 02:05 |
AfrOTRokHE | (i think) | 02:05 |
AfrOTRokHE | xD | 02:05 |
AfrOTRokHE | achy: huh? | 02:05 |
achy | Hi, i installed gcursor and dowload a cople of cursor themes from gmone look but i cant install tmen any help? | 02:06 |
Sysace | nalioth: it's saying that it can't be found, however it's in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/ .. /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/ .. and /usr/lib/nvu-1.0PR. So what exactly are you saying.. back up one of the files (copy it to another location).. then try installing again? if so .. I've tried that | 02:06 |
nalioth | AfrOTRokHE: i hear windoze installs are easy | 02:06 |
boow | im glad i purged my pc of windows | 02:06 |
zoople-newbie | ok thanks | 02:06 |
zoople-newbie | :-) | 02:06 |
AfrOTRokHE | hahahahahahahahahahahaha | 02:06 |
AfrOTRokHE | nalioth: i talking'bout warty to hoary | 02:06 |
nalioth | Sysace: back it up as in "mv libmozjs.so libmozjs.so.bak" | 02:06 |
nalioth | AfrOTRokHE: i know, i was pullin yer leg | 02:06 |
AfrOTRokHE | :S | 02:07 |
Sysace | nalioth: I didn't actually back it up in that sense, however I did delete it completely and it returns with each attempt at re-installation | 02:07 |
nalioth | Sysace: well thats crazy | 02:07 |
nalioth | Sysace: apt-get has "Force" options | 02:08 |
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Sysace | and this is a brand new install just completed last night.. everything was working then.. till I changed repositories following a ubuntuguide and tried updating from 1.0.2 to 1.0.4 | 02:08 |
nalioth | Sysace: as in get out the sledge and get it in there | 02:08 |
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KhaBal | how do you compress a bz2 file? | 02:08 |
nalioth | Sysace: ah ubuntuguide AGAIN | 02:08 |
Elsidox | is the ubuntu backprots server down? | 02:08 |
nalioth | Sysace: comment out all the unofficial repos you have now | 02:08 |
nalioth | KhaBal: "bzip2 file" | 02:09 |
KhaBal | nalioth: who was the person you reffered to me that is the braniest guy out? | 02:09 |
Sysace | nalioth: I actually restored my original sources.list and tried re-installing 1.0.2 but no luck.. same error | 02:09 |
nalioth | KhaBal: ask your question again, there are differnt people in here now | 02:09 |
KhaBal | tried that command this error came "bzip2: Input file discostoo_sephiroth.tar.bz2 already has .bz2 suffix." | 02:09 |
nalioth | Sysace: remove all that you installed under the ubuntuguide sources | 02:09 |
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nalioth | KhaBal: then you needed to ask how to UNcompress a bz2 file | 02:10 |
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KhaBal | yes lol | 02:10 |
nalioth | KhaBal: bunzip2 filename.bz2 | 02:10 |
twistymcgee | why is ubuntuguide linked on the ubuntu website? | 02:10 |
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nalioth | twistymcgee: i have no clue | 02:10 |
nalioth | twistymcgee: but it is evil (as you can see on an hourly basis here) | 02:10 |
teeagoo | can i install ubuntu in hdd? (grub in hda mbr)? | 02:11 |
Sysace | nalioth: I installed a lot of software following the ubuntuguide.. too much to go back and remove | 02:11 |
nalioth | teeagoo: sure can | 02:11 |
twistymcgee | well i still can't get rhythmbox to recognize that i have gstreamer0.8-mad installed so i figure it has to be something i did from that site | 02:11 |
nalioth | Sysace: you are not the first to do so and not be able to go forward or backup | 02:11 |
nalioth | Sysace: the easiest quickest option is not the prettiest | 02:11 |
Sysace | nalioth: there must be some way this can be fixed though.. some path somewhere to tell it where to find the lib | 02:11 |
teeagoo | [nalioth] bua, aaaam, grub will be installed automaticaly on hda mbr (sorry for my bad english) ? | 02:12 |
KhaBal | what commands do people use to extract a .tar file? | 02:12 |
nalioth | twistymcgee: Sysace y'all read #3 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines | 02:12 |
nalioth | teeagoo: grub can be on the /dev/hda/mbr and still start ubuntu on /dev/hdd | 02:12 |
KhaBal | tar -xzvf?? | 02:12 |
nalioth | KhaBal: depends on what kind of tar file | 02:13 |
Vinh- | is there a iptables log located somewhere in the system? | 02:13 |
nalioth | KhaBal: plain tar, tar.gz or tar.bz2 | 02:13 |
teeagoo | [nalioth] ok, tks!! | 02:13 |
KhaBal | plain tar | 02:13 |
teeagoo | [nalioth] i will try! | 02:13 |
nalioth | KhaBal: tar xvf file.tar | 02:13 |
twistymcgee | nalioth: i read it i just don't remember what all i installed using those instructions | 02:14 |
teeagoo | I can install grub by boot cd? (rescue...) | 02:14 |
teeagoo | can i install grub by boot cd? (rescue...) | 02:14 |
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lsuactiafner | what command can i run to check all the extra packages installed on my system and to make em all update? | 02:14 |
nalioth | teeagoo: i think you must boot the livecd and chroot, but i don't know for sure how to do that | 02:14 |
nalioth | lsuactiafner: apt-get upgrade? | 02:14 |
Sysace | k.. what's a decent alternative browser for me to use till I get firefox going again | 02:14 |
nalioth | Sysace: galeon | 02:15 |
teeagoo | [nalioth] tkz :-) | 02:15 |
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wolverian | oh wow. totem-gstreamer is actually usable on breezy. yay! | 02:15 |
wolverian | Sysace: epiphany | 02:15 |
Ironfrost | sysace - if you don't mind propriatory software, Opera is excellent | 02:15 |
lsuactiafner | nalioth : doesnt seem to upgrade non-default packages | 02:15 |
Ironfrost | otherwise, Mozilla | 02:15 |
Sysace | nalioth: galeon: Depends: mozilla-browser (>= 2:1.7.5) but it is not going to be installed | 02:15 |
lsuactiafner | bleh firefox | 02:15 |
nalioth | twistymcgee: Sysace most folks who have followed the ubuntuguide to y'alls postions usually reinstall | 02:15 |
wolverian | hah. everything depends on gecko. :) | 02:15 |
lsuactiafner | oh | 02:15 |
nalioth | Sysace: opera, then | 02:16 |
lsuactiafner | alternative | 02:16 |
lsuactiafner | netscape was nie | 02:16 |
flodine | a guys anyone use teamspeak | 02:16 |
nalioth | lsuactiafner: it wont upgrade things you've built/installed | 02:16 |
KhaBal | excuse me where do you mkdir .fluxbox in the home folder? | 02:16 |
lsuactiafner | lynx or links (: | 02:16 |
Sysace | got epiphany now :) | 02:16 |
wolverian | Sysace: oh. epiphany doesn't depend on mozilla-browser. right. | 02:16 |
wolverian | and it's the official gnome browser, too! | 02:16 |
nalioth | and it blows | 02:16 |
Funraiser | flodine, u can use skype instead u know | 02:16 |
nalioth | personal opinion of course | 02:16 |
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concept10 | Funraiser, skype instead of teamspeak? | 02:17 |
wolverian | nalioth: there are things that I hate about it, but I still like it more than firefox, for some reason. | 02:17 |
wolverian | probably because it's just more HIG-compliant. | 02:17 |
Funraiser | concept10, yes | 02:17 |
lsuactiafner | links -G might work | 02:17 |
Funraiser | skype works on a LAN too | 02:17 |
Sysace | command to launch epiphany? | 02:17 |
nalioth | wolverian: i use galeon and kazehakase | 02:18 |
concept10 | Funraiser, have you used it during a game? | 02:18 |
flodine | Funraiser does it connect to team | 02:18 |
nalioth | Sysace: type epiphany in the terminal (it should be on your menu under Internet) | 02:18 |
Funraiser | concept10, a friend of mine did right here in my house | 02:18 |
wolverian | nalioth: kazehakase seems interesting. I've been meaning to try it out. gaelon I just didn't find interesting, at all. | 02:18 |
Elsidox | can anyone help me. I was wondering if the ubuntu backports repos where down. I cant download anything from them. | 02:19 |
Funraiser | flodine, this i don't know | 02:19 |
Sysace | bash: epiphany: command not found | 02:19 |
Sysace | woohoo... "apt-get build-dep mozilla-browser" seems to have fixed my firefox :) | 02:19 |
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wolverian | Sysace: then it's not installed, apparently. | 02:20 |
nalioth | wolverian: kazekahase renders things that galeon doesnt, but is lacking some features galeon has | 02:20 |
Sysace | epiphany is already the newest version. | 02:20 |
wolverian | Sysace: maybe your shell needs a 'rehash' or so, then. | 02:20 |
wolverian | (the command.) | 02:20 |
Sysace | doesn't really matter though I guess with firefox working again :) | 02:20 |
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Sysace | rehash? | 02:21 |
wolverian | nalioth: I thought they both used gecko | 02:21 |
nalioth | Elsidox: its better you not use backports except when you are getting a certain program, and then disable them | 02:21 |
nalioth | wolverian: they do, and thats the funny thing | 02:21 |
wolverian | Sysace: some shells need you to manually tell when to refresh the cache of available programs | 02:21 |
wolverian | nalioth: oh. okay. | 02:21 |
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wolverian | Sysace: this shouldn't be a problem in bash. | 02:21 |
wolverian | (but maybe you're using dash, or something) | 02:21 |
Elsidox | nalioth, I see. I was trying to install smeg. But I get errors liek cant contact server. | 02:21 |
Funraiser | supreme court said p2P apps are illegal | 02:22 |
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hajiki | what cursor theme does ubuntu use? | 02:22 |
wolverian | Human :) | 02:22 |
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wolverian | Funraiser: no, it didn't. | 02:23 |
Funraiser | what did it say? | 02:23 |
maruchan | Hello, Can some one help me with sound, it sounds very distorted | 02:23 |
hajiki | oh i though i saw it on debian and assumed it was something else | 02:23 |
CarlFK | Funraiser - URL? | 02:23 |
hajiki | thanks | 02:23 |
Funraiser | one sec | 02:23 |
wolverian | Funraiser: read a good news source (i.e. not /.) | 02:23 |
Elsidox | nalioth, any ideas? | 02:23 |
metzen | maruchan: turn your pcm volume down in the volume mixer | 02:23 |
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metzen | maruchan: you are probably peaking becuase the slider is too high | 02:24 |
Funraiser | http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=mgm+supreme+court&btnG=Search+News | 02:24 |
nalioth | Elsidox: i recommend you comment out all unofficial sources from your list | 02:24 |
nalioth | Elsidox: and if you HAVE to have it, you can compile it by hand | 02:24 |
Sysace | can somebody suggest something for me to monitor my cpu and hd temps? | 02:25 |
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Elsidox | nalioth, I was going to do that. But stuff like java is hard to intsall | 02:25 |
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Funraiser | wolverian, what's a good source? | 02:25 |
nalioths_dog | Elsidox: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] | 02:25 |
dlanor | psst What's everyone's favourite distro here? | 02:25 |
nalioth | wolverian: you mean /. isnt OMNIPOTENT? | 02:25 |
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Funraiser | The US Supreme Court gave a boost to the effort to crack down on online piracy, ruling that peer-to-peer networks like Grokster used to swap music and films can be held liable for copyright infringement. | 02:25 |
Elsidox | nalioths_dog, that will make java run in firefox also? | 02:26 |
nalioth | Elsidox: yes it will | 02:26 |
nalioth | Elsidox: you ARE on a x86 box, right? | 02:26 |
Elsidox | nalioth, thanks | 02:26 |
CarlFK | Funraiser = "can be held liable" bah... that isn't definative | 02:26 |
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nalioth | the supreme court just stirred schlitz up with their ruling | 02:27 |
Elsidox | nalioth, yes im on x86 | 02:27 |
nalioth | Elsidox: just wondering | 02:27 |
Elsidox | nalioth, =). thanks again | 02:27 |
zho40 | how do i upgrade to 686 kernel in synaptic? | 02:27 |
kishkumen | how do you completly remove something? | 02:28 |
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wolverian | Funraiser: right. that doesn't make P2P itself illegal. | 02:28 |
djs | Elsidox, You can obtain a DEB file for smeg from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38183 | 02:28 |
wolverian | (which doesn't mean it's not a horrendously bad verdict.) | 02:28 |
Elsidox | djs, thanks | 02:28 |
djs | Elsidox: yw :) | 02:28 |
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maruchan | metzen maruchan: turn your pcm volume down in the volume mixer> Lowering PCM dosnet help infact it lowers the volume | 02:29 |
kishkumen | ia m trying to reinstall mysql-server-4.1, but it is giving me this error | 02:29 |
kishkumen | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/271 | 02:29 |
Funraiser | wolverian, ok, but it's a big step in that direction (not that i care) | 02:30 |
CarlFK | kishkumen - you may want to try #mySql | 02:30 |
kishkumen | CarlFK: *sigh* sure | 02:30 |
CarlFK | sowwy ;) | 02:30 |
wolverian | Funraiser: yes. | 02:31 |
twistymcgee | nalioth: i can get amarok working with gstreamer...which is fine for me...there's no way i'm reinstalling | 02:31 |
Funraiser | I wonder what bram will say about it | 02:31 |
nalioth | twistymcgee: just showing you what is happening | 02:31 |
kishkumen | CarlFK: this time it is an ubuntu problem though... | 02:31 |
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kishkumen | CarlFK: not a mysql problem | 02:32 |
twistymcgee | nalioth: appreciate it...everything else is working fine it's just rhythmbox which i can live without | 02:32 |
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kishkumen | CarlFK: is there a way to completly remove a package from ubuntu | 02:32 |
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kishkumen | CarlFK: cause apt-get remove <package> is not cutting it | 02:33 |
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CarlFK | kishkumen - um... yes? I know what you are getting at, but I don't really know | 02:34 |
Funraiser | speaking of which: "the war of the worlds" premieres on the 29th :-) | 02:34 |
wolverian | kishkumen: --purge. man apt-get | 02:34 |
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djs | kishkumen: apt-get remove --purge <package> | 02:34 |
Elsidox | djs, do you know how to install azereus? | 02:34 |
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Corical | bleh | 02:34 |
Corical | goto sleep ;p | 02:34 |
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ep | How do I go about getting gcc allong with the std c++ libraries, the debugger, linker, documentation etc.? Is there a single apt-get for something similar to this? | 02:35 |
djs | Elsidox: If you enable the "multiverse" repository it should be available for install | 02:35 |
uniq | ep: build-essential | 02:35 |
CarlFK | ep - yes... devel-essincials or something... gime a sec.. | 02:35 |
Funraiser | Elsidox, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#azureus | 02:35 |
CarlFK | yeah, that. | 02:35 |
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Elsidox | djs, Funraiser thanks | 02:35 |
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djs | Elsidox: Take care with ubuntuguide - not always the best advice | 02:36 |
kishkumen | djs: once purged i can do an apt-get install <package> as if i never did it before right? | 02:36 |
djs | kishkumen: yes | 02:36 |
Kyral|AFK | holy shyt, I changed my nick HERE?! I thought I did it on the Undernet! | 02:36 |
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b-rad | evening everyone :) Does anyone have a copy of the ubuntusetup.sh script mentioned on the forums? I can't download it since I get a connection refused when trying to wget to download.ubuntuforums.org | 02:37 |
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kishkumen | i am getting this now... | 02:37 |
kishkumen | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/272 | 02:37 |
Kyral | b-rad, I do | 02:38 |
Kyral | Want a DCC? | 02:38 |
maruchan | should pcm volume control also control the main volume? | 02:38 |
b-rad | yeah, hopefully it'll connect up | 02:39 |
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b-rad | I clicked accept... it's sitting heh | 02:39 |
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Elsidox | Funraiser, for somer reason the backports repos arnt working | 02:39 |
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Kyral | I never have luck with sending files | 02:39 |
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Kyral | and why use wget, just fire up lynx or FireFox and get it :D | 02:40 |
b-rad | tried that | 02:40 |
Funraiser | Elsidox, u have to follow all the steps | 02:40 |
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b-rad | same error on firefox :) | 02:40 |
Kyral | O_O | 02:40 |
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b-rad | yeah... not sure what the deal is. I can do all of that stuff manually, but I'd rather not if there's a script for it already :) | 02:41 |
Elsidox | Funraiser, I did | 02:41 |
b-rad | I just jumped ship from Gentoo | 02:41 |
Kenosis | Is there no repository for mplayer? | 02:41 |
Can0Beans | okay -- trying to load Hoary on a latitude D610 laptop (might have SATA drives) and I keep getting the Load Installer components from CD failed | 02:41 |
Can0Beans | any suggestions? | 02:41 |
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Elsidox | Funraiser, Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restrictedd/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 70.84.217.98 80] | 02:41 |
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kishkumen | b-rad: well, thus far gentoo support is a hellva lot better then anything i have gotten here | 02:42 |
cafuego | Elsidox: You made a typo. extra 'd' in restrictedd | 02:42 |
Kyral | kishkumen, I'm offended! :P | 02:42 |
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Elsidox | cafuego, lol. doh. Thanks | 02:42 |
kishkumen | Kyral: when ever my ??'s get too complicated people shut up | 02:42 |
b-rad | kishkumen: Well, I got tired of compiles and whatnot with Gentoo, so here I am. I've had Ubuntu on the laptop for a while now | 02:42 |
Kyral | kishkumen, Ask on the Forums? | 02:43 |
Kyral | the forums ROCK | 02:43 |
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Kenosis | I'm doing a Gentoo stage3 on my server right now. | 02:43 |
ep | where are "the forums"? | 02:43 |
djs | kishkumen: I'd like to help more but mysql isn't my area :( | 02:43 |
Kenosis | I don't have time for a stage1 | 02:43 |
Kyral | www.ubuntuforums.org | 02:43 |
EBAL_VAS_VSEH | ? ???? ??? ???? | 02:43 |
Kenosis | I have Ubuntu on my desktop | 02:43 |
CarlFK | Kenosis - Generally Too much trouble? ;) | 02:43 |
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Kenosis | mmm | 02:44 |
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kishkumen | djs: it is not a mysql problem though, apt-get is not removing everything it is suppose to, even with an apt-get --purge | 02:44 |
b-rad | I'm on my desktop now... switched it over last night | 02:44 |
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Kyral | Gentoo == Too much work | 02:44 |
Kenosis | Are there entries in the Ubuntu/Debian repositories for mplayer? | 02:44 |
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Kyral | Kenosis, use Totem and Xine and Beep instead :D | 02:44 |
Kenosis | or maybe libDVDeCSS? | 02:44 |
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CarlFK | Kenosis - #gentoo gang is pretty cool - but i found it a bit too much hassle to keep up | 02:45 |
gandalfsbigwand | I'm looking for the kcolorchooser program which is part of a larger package of programs for KDE but I can't find it in the repositories. I tried custom searches in synaptic but found nothing. | 02:45 |
Kenosis | Will they come with the codecs? | 02:45 |
b-rad | Kyral, don't suppose you could email me that script? brad@fubarpa.com | 02:45 |
Kyral | Kenosis, enable Backports, Universe, Extras, and Multiverse | 02:45 |
Kyral | sure | 02:45 |
b-rad | much appreciated :) | 02:45 |
Kenosis | E: Couldn't find package xine | 02:45 |
Sismondi | How do you create new shortcuts (not edit old ones)? | 02:46 |
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gandalfsbigwand | anyone know where kcolorchooser package is for Ubuntu Hoary? | 02:46 |
Sismondi | i.e. for to execute a script. | 02:46 |
Kyral | Kenosis: Its xine-ui | 02:46 |
Kenosis | ahh..sorry | 02:46 |
djs | kishkumen: I just checked on packages.ubuntu.com and my.cnf is part of the mysql-common-4.1 package. Perhaps try reinstalling that. | 02:46 |
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Kyral | run this command | 02:46 |
Agrajag- | gday. is it possible to install apache 1.3 on warty? | 02:47 |
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Kyral | Kenosis, sudo apt-get install xine-ui totem-xine w32codecs | 02:47 |
cafuego | !info apache warty | 02:47 |
ubotu | apache: (Versatile, high-performance HTTP server), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.3.31-6 (warty), Packaged size: 368 kB, Installed size: 800 kB | 02:47 |
kishkumen | djs: i have tried reinstalling it more then once | 02:47 |
Kenosis | Couldn't find package w32codecs | 02:47 |
Kyral | oh b-rad you want a GMail invite with that? | 02:48 |
cafuego | Agrajag-: 'sudo apt-get install apache' | 02:48 |
Kyral | !info w32codecs hoary | 02:48 |
b-rad | Kyral: No thanks, already have 50 of my own to deal out :) | 02:48 |
Agrajag- | i've tried apt-get install apache, it tells me apache-common replaces it | 02:48 |
Agrajag- | which doesn't make much sense | 02:48 |
djs | kishkumen: -comon or -server ? | 02:48 |
maruchan | how do i open esd.conf to edit it | 02:48 |
djs | common* | 02:48 |
cafuego | Agrajag-: Just make sure you have 'universe' listed in your sources.list | 02:48 |
Agrajag- | ok | 02:48 |
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kishkumen | djs: -server | 02:48 |
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kishkumen | djs: that is the only one i had install prviously | 02:49 |
Kyral | Kenosis, check your PM | 02:49 |
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kishkumen | djs: i guess I tried to manualy delete /etc/mysql, i know that is the problem (stupid me) that is why I am trying to completly remove the package and reinstall | 02:49 |
Can0Beans | anyone have any suggestions for my issue? | 02:49 |
djs | kishkumen: -server depends on -common so it would be installed when you installed it. Try deinstalling both | 02:49 |
Kenosis | Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused) | 02:49 |
djs | kishkumen: it = -server | 02:50 |
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Kyral | b-rad, sent | 02:51 |
b-rad | Kyral: Got it, thanks a lot :) | 02:51 |
kishkumen | djs: when removing -common i get this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/273 | 02:51 |
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pedingto | Hrm, I'm getting a scrollkeeper error during installation. | 02:52 |
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djs | kishkumen: hmm - do you get the same error if you try deinstalling again? | 02:53 |
pedingto | well its still doing it | 02:53 |
pedingto | I didn't have this error before | 02:54 |
pedingto | I'm reinstalling, and now getting parser error: 792 | 02:54 |
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kishkumen | djs: i mkdir /etc/mysql and then re ran the apt-get remove --purge and it ran with out a problem | 02:54 |
kishkumen | djs: i just did 'apt-get install libmysqlclient14-dev mysql-server-4.1' and it installed with out a hitch | 02:54 |
b-rad | Kyral: doh, looks like it's not going to be of much use at the moment... some of the files it downloads are from download.ubuntuforums.org | 02:54 |
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djs | kishkumen: smart work!! - now try reinstalling | 02:54 |
b-rad | no matter, I think I can get around it | 02:54 |
djs | kishkumen: too quick for me | 02:55 |
djs | :) | 02:55 |
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Kenosis | Why would I get an error for Cannot connect to localhost:4001??? | 02:55 |
Nameeater | what repo's should i use for apt? | 02:56 |
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kishkumen | djs: ok it looks like it is a mysql problem now | 02:56 |
kishkumen | djs: i'll ask #mysql, thanks though ;-) | 02:56 |
ookii | anyone have any alternatives for transcode? i'm having the hardest time installing it | 02:56 |
djs | kishkumen: you feel you have a clean install now? | 02:57 |
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djs | kishkumen: ok - good luck. | 02:57 |
cafuego | apt-get install --reinstall --force-confmiss mysql-server | 02:57 |
Strife | so I'm trying to reinstall ubuntu, but the only network access I have is via wireless, which requires me to use a web browser to authenticate.... is there no lynx or links that comes on the install cd? | 02:57 |
kishkumen | cafuego: what does that do? | 02:58 |
cafuego | kishkumen: Forces a reinstall, including default config files. | 02:58 |
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kishkumen | just to show you, this is when I get when I do /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root -h moroni password '<password>' | 02:58 |
kishkumen | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/274 | 02:58 |
kishkumen | cafuego: ahhh | 02:58 |
cafuego | kishkumen: Ah yes. That's a feature. | 02:59 |
cafuego | kishkumen: '/usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root -p' | 02:59 |
kishkumen | cafuego: a feature? | 02:59 |
cafuego | kishkumen: try that,. | 02:59 |
cafuego | kishkumen: Yes, you're FORCING it to connect via TCP, not via the local socket. | 02:59 |
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Strife | so more specifically, when I am trying to install, it "couldn't retrieve zlib1g" and quits | 02:59 |
CarlFK | Strife - gime a sec.. I'm sure this can be hacked ;) | 02:59 |
Strife | CarlFK: I'm sure it can, somehow... | 02:59 |
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kishkumen | cafuego: this is what I get http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/275 | 03:00 |
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Strife | I mean, if I have the cd anyway, why would it try to get something from the network? | 03:01 |
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cafuego | kishkumen: It doesn't prompt for the password? | 03:01 |
Kenosis | Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xine-ui/xine-ui_0.99.3-1ubuntu1_i386.deb Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused) | 03:01 |
Kenosis | grr! | 03:01 |
kishkumen | cafuego: no | 03:01 |
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Sismondi | How do you create new keyboard shortcuts (not edit old ones)? i.e. to execute shell scripts.. | 03:02 |
Strife | so it's telling me that this could be either a network problem, or a bad CD... | 03:02 |
cafuego | kishkumen: What hgappens when you run 'mysql -u root -p' ? | 03:02 |
Strife | I don't want to have to use the ass slow os x disk utility again :( | 03:02 |
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kishkumen | cafuego: it asks for a password | 03:02 |
cafuego | kishkumen: *nod* enter root's password | 03:02 |
kishkumen | ahh ok that works | 03:03 |
Kenosis | How do I open up port 4001? | 03:03 |
ep | still shooting for complete c++ package: apt-get install build-essentials -->Couldn't find package build-essentials. Did I type this wrong? | 03:03 |
Kenosis | I sthere a system firewall installed by default? | 03:03 |
Kenosis | *is | 03:03 |
pedingto | what command is it to work out the modeline again? | 03:03 |
cafuego | kishkumen: Ok, I expect the uissue is '-h moroni'. Maybe try '-h localhost' | 03:03 |
Strife | so does anyone know why the installer is crapping out at the zlib1g part? | 03:04 |
CarlFK | Strife - so you don't really need the Net, just need to get the install to stop tring to use it? | 03:04 |
Strife | CarlFK: well I don't know if it's really trying to or not... because I tried to go back and have "no configuration at this time" but I still ran into the same problem | 03:05 |
Strife | I may just restart and try again... | 03:05 |
b-rad | ep: try build-essential instead of build-essentials | 03:05 |
CarlFK | Strife - you are correct that everything you need is on the cd. | 03:05 |
Strife | but right now I'm checking the CD for integrity just in case, that way if I need to reburn the CD (which is really slow for CDRW by the way) I can know that I need to | 03:05 |
ep | lol ah | 03:05 |
Strife | CarlFK: yeah, I recall having installed entirely from the CD last time | 03:05 |
CarlFK | Strife - on the step that asks for a mirror, there should be a way to specify file://cdrom/ or something | 03:06 |
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Strife | CarlFK: it hasn't even gotten THAT far... it craps out on installing the base system | 03:06 |
CarlFK | Strife - I bet you can pass that as a kernel parameter | 03:07 |
Strife | that shouldn't be necessary | 03:07 |
CarlFK | Strife - so it doesn't get to the reboot part? | 03:07 |
Strife | the only kernel parameter I passed last time I installed ubuntu was vga=771 | 03:07 |
Strife | CarlFK: not even close | 03:07 |
CarlFK | Strife - any idea how you told it to use the CD and not the net? | 03:07 |
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Strife | CarlFK: last time I installed, that came at the mirror selection | 03:08 |
b-rad | got another question: anyone have a working Ubuntu backports mirror URL? ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net appears to be down... can't get a connection | 03:08 |
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Strife | uh oh... a file failed to match up with the checksum | 03:09 |
Strife | f*** | 03:09 |
CarlFK | that bites | 03:10 |
Strife | yeah | 03:10 |
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Strife | well I'm going to try restarting and not setting network from the getgo and see what happens... | 03:10 |
bassinboy | whats a good DVD player? | 03:10 |
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Strife | bassinboy: xine | 03:11 |
bassinboy | thx | 03:11 |
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goliat | hello there | 03:11 |
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b-rad | nevermind... it's rollin now heh | 03:12 |
Strife | argh, why is reinstalling linux such a pain? the first time on my laptop it worked flawlessly | 03:12 |
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bassinboy | xine plays my dvd fine, i wonder why totem and vlc (menus) doesn't | 03:13 |
Strife | because totem sucks | 03:13 |
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Strife | and I don't like vlc either | 03:13 |
rbeldin | Good news. Installed 5.04 on a HP Pavilion a810n (AMD64) w/ a Linksys wireless card (Broadcom 43xx) and ndiswrapper and it worked without a hitch. Nice job. | 03:14 |
Strife | bassinboy: strangely, even when totem uses xine as its backend, it still sucks | 03:14 |
nomasteryoda | nalioth_wrkn, thanks for the supporting comment on breezy | 03:14 |
Strife | rbeldin: sweet, now tell me why I can't reinstall ubuntu on my laptop :P | 03:14 |
rbeldin | I generally wipe out old partitions with system rescue on my laptop and then reinstall into the free space. | 03:14 |
bassinboy | Strife: on an HP? ewww..... | 03:15 |
bassinboy | i work at HP :P | 03:15 |
rbeldin | So do I | 03:15 |
Strife | bassinboy: no, dell | 03:15 |
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rbeldin | the a810n isn't bad. ASUS motherboard, 512mb, DVD writer. Got a refurb for $400 | 03:15 |
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bassinboy | rbeldin: in H-town? | 03:16 |
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rbeldin | Re -laptop - Compaq Evo N610c w/ 5.04 and wireless works just fine. Had to use orinoco_usb drivers from cvs. | 03:16 |
rbeldin | H-town? Houston? No. Atlanta | 03:16 |
bassinboy | i see :) | 03:17 |
Strife | rbeldin: good. because Houston is the devil. | 03:17 |
bassinboy | Bleh! | 03:17 |
rbeldin | The laptop still keeps its original winders ntfs partition which was resized with system rescue cd. I have RHEL4 and 5.04 on it as well. | 03:17 |
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rbeldin | Anyone tried the IA64 Ubuntu distro? I have a zx2000 workstation that I would like to test it on | 03:18 |
Strife | so I like how OS X's "disk utility" by default does the really slow CDRW erase, yet the commandline tool hdiutil does the quick erase | 03:19 |
bassinboy | do you peoples know a good www image gallery program? | 03:19 |
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Strife | bassinboy: gallery | 03:19 |
Strife | gallery.sf.net | 03:19 |
Strife | the best there is | 03:19 |
bassinboy | installing.. | 03:20 |
bassinboy | cool :)P | 03:20 |
Strife | the only other thing I would ever use is the html gallery export feature in gthumb | 03:20 |
Strife | which is nce when you don't have sql access | 03:20 |
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Strife | although.... apparently I don't see anything about sql | 03:21 |
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bassinboy | installed gallery :) | 03:21 |
Strife | I could've sworn gallery used sql | 03:21 |
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uber_newber | hey im really new ubuntu an linux itself, but righ now my main goal is to configure my lynksis wireless b network adapter. so ppl have told me i need ndiswrapper to acomplish this. so i downloaded it but have no clue how to install it and usee it | 03:21 |
Strife | I'm confused... did they do away with sql in it or something? | 03:21 |
uber_newber | can sum1 help me out please | 03:22 |
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oofnik | hey, can someone help me get v4l working please? | 03:22 |
Strife | uber_newber: do you have module-assistant installed? | 03:22 |
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uber_newber | nope | 03:22 |
oofnik | i want to be able to use my webcam | 03:22 |
Strife | uber_newber: install it | 03:22 |
uber_newber | ok | 03:22 |
goliat | ANYBODY USES phpgroupware here ? | 03:23 |
Strife | uber_newber: actually, ths will help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto | 03:23 |
steve_f | uber_newber: out of curiosity, is it the USB adapter? | 03:23 |
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oofnik | i thought someone made a native driver for the linksys chipset..? | 03:23 |
bassinboy | Strife: Awesome... now how do i get started with gallery? | 03:23 |
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Strife | bassinboy: hell if I know... I never installed it, only mooched off of someone's server :) | 03:23 |
bassinboy | lol | 03:24 |
Strife | although I need to learn how to install it | 03:24 |
Strife | because I'm setting a website up for my parents soon so they can have pictures and stuff online | 03:24 |
goldfish | sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils | 03:24 |
goldfish | tbh | 03:24 |
jbroome | i haven't installed in on deb/ubuntu but it's pretty easy on the RH/mandrake boxes i've put it on | 03:24 |
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uber_newber | steve_F> ya it is a usb adapter | 03:25 |
Strife | ugh writing CDRWs takes forever | 03:26 |
steve_f | uber_newber: I don't know the "correct" way, but I just set one of these up for my dad over the weekend. | 03:26 |
Strife | it better damn well work this time | 03:26 |
uber_newber | steve_f> well how would u suggest i do it | 03:27 |
oofnik | can anyone help me with setting up my webcam? | 03:27 |
Strife | bassinboy: http://gallery.menalto.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=GalleryDocs&file=index&page=gallery1-install.unix-ftp.php | 03:27 |
oofnik | for some reason v4l isn't working | 03:27 |
steve_f | uber_newber: check this page to see if your version is supported: http://developer.berlios.de/projects/at76c503a/ | 03:27 |
uber_newber | ok thanx | 03:28 |
steve_f | uber_newber: Mine is v2.8 and works well. | 03:28 |
uber_newber | and i dunno if it really matters but im running off an ancient laptop, a toshiba tecra 8000 | 03:28 |
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steve_f | uber_newber: as long as you have USB it should be ok :) | 03:29 |
uber_newber | ok kool | 03:29 |
Strife | older hardware usually works better... in terms of having drivers that work that is | 03:29 |
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uber_newber | steve_f> where do i find the version of my wireless adapter thing | 03:30 |
steve_f | I bought the linksys wusb11 on saturday for $9 and had it working in about an hour... I was very pleased that it worked at all so I didn't have to return it :) | 03:30 |
steve_f | The version is under the velcro plate on the bottom. | 03:30 |
uber_newber | lol kool | 03:30 |
uber_newber | oh ok thanx again | 03:30 |
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oofnik | so.. nobody has a webcam in here? i need some help.. please.. :-/ | 03:31 |
uber_newber | ya, mines 2.8 also | 03:31 |
uber_newber | :) | 03:31 |
^thehatsrule^ | webcam?! | 03:31 |
Strife | steve_f: usually you check google first before you buy hardware for a linux box :P | 03:31 |
^thehatsrule^ | :/ | 03:31 |
steve_f | Then it should work fine... the better question is how to do it right. Ie via module-assistant as someone mentioned earlier. | 03:31 |
pedingto_ | Hrm. I'm having an issue with apt-get. I've edited the sources.list and its failing to fetch one of them. | 03:31 |
oofnik | hah yes, webcam... | 03:31 |
oofnik | i have the drivers loaded for it and everything | 03:31 |
uber_newber | ya | 03:31 |
Strife | pedingto_: do you know for sure that you've edited it correctly? | 03:31 |
oofnik | but v4l is broken! | 03:31 |
steve_f | Strife: yeah, I know. It was an impulse buy. COuldn't beat the price. | 03:31 |
pedingto_ | Yup | 03:31 |
bimberi | pedingto: could be a typo | 03:32 |
FLeiXiuS | pedingto: perhaps that link is down. | 03:32 |
Strife | pedingto_: what did you try to add to it? | 03:32 |
uber_newber | Strife> what was that thing again? module-assistant? was that it | 03:32 |
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pedingto_ | Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz | 03:32 |
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pedingto_ | That was the package it failed on | 03:32 |
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pedingto_ | Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) | 03:32 |
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Strife | uber_newber: yes... but the one time I used that was with debian, not ubuntu... I think ubuntu already has binary drivers for ndiswrapper... | 03:33 |
gm78 | Hey all. My internal PC speaker is beeping at me about once every 3 minutes or so. What could this mean? | 03:33 |
steve_f | uber_newber: from a quick search via apt-cache, the atmel drivers don't appear to be available for use via module-assistant | 03:33 |
Strife | gm78: the world is about to end | 03:33 |
oofnik | hey gm78, is your normal sound working? | 03:33 |
oofnik | hahah strife | 03:33 |
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steve_f | uber_newber: now that my dad has one of these devices, though, I hope to create a package and get someone to sponsor it in universe. | 03:33 |
uber_newber | steve_f> ok so that means........ | 03:33 |
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porpuse | sup ppl? | 03:34 |
gm78 | Strife, lol, im just worried it could have something to do with CPU temp or something like that. the fans are working fine though....theres enough of them in this thing | 03:34 |
uber_newber | i mean about what u said earlier | 03:34 |
Strife | uber_newber: that you'll be able to apt-get install it and it'll automagically work | 03:34 |
gm78 | oofnik, yep...my normal sound is working fine...using beep media player right now | 03:34 |
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uber_newber | sweet | 03:34 |
gm78 | Strife, just making sure my computer isn't going to be dead tomorrow | 03:34 |
Strife | gm78: it very well could mean that, but it's hard to say... the pc speaker beeps for a lot of reasons | 03:34 |
mrpickles | err, i think i messed up my apt-get software, can someone help >? | 03:34 |
oofnik | hm.. gm78 check what dmesg has to say | 03:34 |
fr500 | hello | 03:35 |
uber_newber | strife> umm how do i install it. thats the first part of my problem lol | 03:35 |
steve_f | uber_newber: module-assistant is a way to build modules from source that are not part of the mainline linux kernel | 03:35 |
uber_newber | i c | 03:35 |
Strife | uber_newber: did the link I sent you a while ago not help? | 03:35 |
uber_newber | dang sorry, i musta missed it | 03:35 |
uber_newber | what was it? | 03:35 |
Strife | google 'debian ndiswrapper' | 03:35 |
gm78 | oofnik, nothing seems to be out of the ordinary there | 03:35 |
Strife | and look for the ubuntu wiki entry | 03:35 |
uber_newber | ok thanx | 03:35 |
bassinboy | hmm, i dont think mod php is working... what do i add to the apache config? | 03:35 |
Strife | why don't you think it's working? | 03:36 |
fr500 | i have access to my work pc from home, and i enabled vnc, but i forgot to enable auto login, and i sent a reboot, is there a way for me to access my work pc's desktop, i can go in through ssh and edit files if requiered | 03:36 |
Strife | did you try phpinfo(); yet? | 03:36 |
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oofnik | gm78 i guess you could just go into volume control or alsamixer and mute the PC speaker | 03:36 |
gm78 | oofnik, i figured it might be that i am hitting too many buttons on the keyboard (like windows does sometimes) so i sat and hit some buttons repeatedly and nothing happened | 03:36 |
oofnik | hah well it's probably not that then.. could it be a certain key combination or something? | 03:36 |
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bassinboy | Strife: when i go to a php page, firefox asks me if i want to save the file to disk :P | 03:36 |
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uber_newber | wow this place is so much more helpful than just asking questions in a chat room, ppl actually help u here and dont critisize u for not bearing the knowledge that they do | 03:37 |
gm78 | oofnik, dont think so....i cant see why it would. i was typing an email | 03:37 |
Strife | uber_newber: yeah, this ain't #debian... | 03:37 |
Strife | don't get me started on #debian... | 03:37 |
Strife | I mean | 03:37 |
Strife | I'm as elitist as the next guy, but seriously | 03:37 |
Strife | if you so much as ask them a question, you're insulting SOMEONE | 03:37 |
uber_newber | ya | 03:37 |
oofnik | yeah #debian people.. argh | 03:37 |
uber_newber | lol | 03:37 |
Strife | ok, trying to reinstall AGAIN | 03:38 |
oofnik | ubuntu people are awesome | 03:38 |
uber_newber | ya totally | 03:38 |
pedingto | Hrm. I've double checked the entry in sources.list and it is right. | 03:38 |
gm78 | oofnik, there is no option in the gnome-volume control or alsamixer for my internal pc speaker | 03:38 |
Strife | yeah ubuntu people are awesome... too bad for the most part I like pure debian better... | 03:38 |
Strife | minus the fact that its installer is old and outdated | 03:39 |
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Strife | and that it doesn't autodetect all the hardware that it should | 03:39 |
Strife | etc. | 03:39 |
oofnik | gm78 if you backspace in terminal do you hear beeps? | 03:39 |
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alexmr | why my d4x dont work? | 03:39 |
Strife | gm78: right after it beeps, you may try seeing the output of dmesg | 03:39 |
bassinboy | Strife: how do i enable php? my mind is really out of it right now | 03:39 |
fr500 | how can i kill xserver from console, it always respawns | 03:39 |
Strife | alexmr: that's a very vague question | 03:39 |
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Strife | bassinboy: did you try making a .php file with <? phpinfo(); ?> already? | 03:40 |
alexmr | in english or portuguese here ? | 03:40 |
pedingto | brb | 03:40 |
bassinboy | Strife: will do | 03:40 |
cyphase | http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/power/library/pa-cell/?ca=dgr-lnxw03SpufsCell | 03:40 |
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bassinboy | Strife: still doesn't work | 03:41 |
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gm78 | oofnik, yep, it beeps at me | 03:41 |
Strife | bassinboy: file was in whereever apache looks when you type http://localhost in the browser? | 03:41 |
oofnik | so does anybody have a working video4linux device? | 03:41 |
punkrockguy318 | I'm hosting an apache 1 server on my ubuntu box.. Is there any sort of html thing that can make my pictures easily viewable on my site? | 03:41 |
gm78 | Strife, just tried that a minute ago, didnt show anything out of the ordinary | 03:42 |
oofnik | gm78 thats very odd, haha i have no idea what it could be | 03:42 |
Strife | gallery | 03:42 |
CarlFK | woa. | 03:42 |
punkrockguy318 | i just want to cp my pics to a folder and have people view them through an interface that is better than index of / | 03:42 |
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Strife | hailfeafhl;eaf;savcnl;asf | 03:42 |
bassinboy | Strife: your last sentense made no sense to me :P | 03:42 |
Strife | SON OF A MONKEY'S UNCLE | 03:42 |
gm78 | Strife, just beeped right this second, typed dmesg, nothing has changed | 03:42 |
memin | Hello how can i create a .xinit script, in my home folder, containing "/usr/share/xpde/bin/startxpde"? | 03:42 |
keffo | hm, anyone got dualboot (ubuntu -> winxp) | 03:42 |
Strife | IT STILL SAYS THAT IT CAN'T RETRIEVE ZLIB1G | 03:42 |
keffo | ? | 03:42 |
CarlFK | punkrockguy318 - gallery - not quite that easy, but close enough | 03:42 |
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gm78 | oofnik, lol, its confusing me too. CentOS used to do it too, and then Ubuntu never did it until today | 03:42 |
alexmr | Strife: | 03:42 |
CarlFK | keffo - I do. | 03:43 |
keffo | ok | 03:43 |
oofnik | gm78 if you heard it on different OS's then maybe it's not linux at all but your BIOS is trying to tell you something? | 03:43 |
keffo | can you post yer menu.lst | 03:43 |
punkrockguy318 | CarlFK, thanks | 03:43 |
keffo | have some booting problems for win | 03:43 |
gm78 | oofnik, is there anyway i could check that?? like in linux? | 03:43 |
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CarlFK | keffo - no, because it is in XP now, and XPee can't read ext2... duh. | 03:44 |
punkrockguy318 | CarlFK, i'll check that out | 03:44 |
keffo | argh | 03:44 |
oofnik | gm78 if you get some sort of hardware monitor maybe.. but you should check the BIOS | 03:44 |
Strife | ok seriously | 03:44 |
Strife | why the f*** wuld I get the "Couldn't retrieve zlib1g" error? | 03:44 |
gm78 | oofnik, should there be an option in the BIOS when i reboot to check that sort of thing? | 03:44 |
Strife | does that mean that the iso I downloaded was corrupt? | 03:44 |
punkrockguy318 | CarlFK, where can I get some docs on using this? | 03:44 |
oofnik | usually all BIOS menus have a hardware monitor page | 03:44 |
KhaBal | I have a C-media CMI 8738 sound card, it seems to not work on linux, so in order to fix it i downloaded the driver from the following site http://www.cmedia.com.tw/download/OS-e-cmi8738_linux.htm I downloaded file 1 for the driver but the next 2 are required for the right kernal, Im using the latest version of ubuntu and there seems to be no patch for the latest kernel what do i do? | 03:45 |
memin | How can i create a .xinit script, in my home folder, containing "/usr/share/xpde/bin/startxpde"? | 03:45 |
oofnik | it will list temperatures and fan speeds and such | 03:45 |
CarlFK | http://gallery.menalto.com/ | 03:45 |
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gm78 | oofnik, alright, im going to reboot, ill let u know what it says | 03:45 |
gm78 | tty in a bit | 03:45 |
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keffo | anyone else using dualboot? | 03:46 |
pietro_spina | keffo: yep | 03:46 |
Strife | keffo: on my desktop.... windows and debian | 03:46 |
keffo | can you guys post yer menu.lst | 03:47 |
keffo | got some bootingprobs | 03:47 |
Derum | Hey, I was wondering " what is the best way to begin to learn all that linux has to offer, especially how to use terminal well and learning all the commands"? | 03:47 |
oofnik | KhaBal what kernel do you have? | 03:47 |
KhaBal | the latest kernel on ubuntu | 03:47 |
pietro_spina | not here... but do you have a thread in ubuntu forums? | 03:47 |
KhaBal | umm currently im using the latest ubuntu | 03:47 |
KhaBal | and i havent touched the kernel after installation | 03:47 |
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wick2o | hello | 03:47 |
bassinboy | ok, i have apache and php installed, but i still can't get php to work | 03:48 |
Derum | keffo, I use dualboot | 03:48 |
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KhaBal | oofnik: did you understand? | 03:48 |
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oofnik | keffo i am posting my menu.lst on pasebin, i hope it can help | 03:48 |
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pedingto | ugh, *stabs apt-get* | 03:48 |
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Derum | keffo, a small portion of my memory is devoted to windows Xp (Cough SISTER Cough) while the main portion of my memory is UBUNTU | 03:48 |
uber_newber | hey strife, i found this but i have no clue how to do ne of it http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?Installation | 03:48 |
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gm78 | oofnik, ummmm, is it just me, or is 52 deg. Celcius way too hot for the cpu???? | 03:49 |
gm78 | oofnik, im hoping its just me | 03:49 |
oofnik | 52 deg. is kind of hot.. mine runs at about 45 c | 03:49 |
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oofnik | what CPU is it? | 03:50 |
goldfish | uber_newber: still trying to install ndiswrapper? | 03:50 |
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oofnik | keffo, here you go http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/276 | 03:50 |
bassinboy | should have got AMD :P | 03:50 |
gm78 | oofnik, Athlon XP 2200+ | 03:50 |
bassinboy | ouch. | 03:50 |
oofnik | gm78 what kind of heatsink? | 03:50 |
oofnik | haha bassinboy | 03:50 |
gm78 | will 52 deg burn it out or melt it? | 03:50 |
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bassinboy | clean out you heatsink/fan.. and re apply thermalgreese | 03:50 |
oofnik | haha, it won't melt it but it puts stress on the chip.. | 03:50 |
goldfish | wick2o: have u added multiverse and universe to your sources? | 03:50 |
bassinboy | wick2o: portage my friend.. | 03:50 |
gm78 | oofnik, how do i check what kind of heatsink....and how do i regrease it? | 03:51 |
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uber_newber | goldfish> ya | 03:51 |
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oofnik | KhaBal unfortunately i don't have any experience with your soundcard.. have you searched ubuntu forums? | 03:51 |
keffo | so, hows the easiest way to check what partition is what.. i mean the "root (hd0,0) something something) | 03:51 |
keffo | cant get it working | 03:51 |
KhaBal | yes | 03:51 |
pietro_spina | keffo: I run windows from 1st partition on slave drive... if this is similar to your setup I can help | 03:51 |
KhaBal | i even posted myself no response | 03:51 |
goldfish | uber_newber: have you added the extra repos to your sources.list? | 03:51 |
keffo | pietro_spina, yes, same here i guess | 03:52 |
oofnik | damn dcc chat | 03:52 |
uber_newber | umm no, i dont even know waht that is | 03:52 |
wick2o | goldfish: i have uncommented everying in the sources.list | 03:52 |
goldfish | wick2o: kk | 03:52 |
wick2o | is there something im missing? | 03:52 |
pietro_spina | keffo: not exactly something you should be gessing :-) | 03:52 |
goldfish | uber_newber: ok, no probs. | 03:52 |
keffo | pietro_spina, shoot.. im 95% sure | 03:52 |
keffo | its late, and im very tired | 03:52 |
KhaBal | I have a C-media CMI 8738 sound card, it seems to not work on linux, so in order to fix it i downloaded the driver from the following site http://www.cmedia.com.tw/download/OS-e-cmi8738_linux.htm I downloaded file 1 for the driver but the next 2 are required for the right kernal, Im using the latest version of ubuntu and there seems to be no patch for the latest kernel what do i do? | 03:52 |
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pietro_spina | keffo: I had to install windows on the disk when it was a master, then swapped them around... | 03:53 |
keffo | that sounds like the lamest | 03:53 |
pedingto | What could be causing an MD5Sum mismatch in apt-get? | 03:53 |
oofnik | KhaBal check this out: http://tinyurl.com/dkqur | 03:53 |
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keffo | pietro_spina, but you couldnt start windows in anyways? | 03:53 |
keffo | before that..? | 03:53 |
oofnik | keffo did you take a look at my menu.lst? | 03:54 |
keffo | oofnik, didnt help very much, thanks anyway :< | 03:54 |
zoople | hello people. on intalling LIMEWIRE: Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive... | 03:54 |
zoople | Configuring the installer for this system's environment... | 03:54 |
zoople | No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH | 03:54 |
zoople | environment variable. You must install a VM prior to | 03:54 |
zoople | running this program. | 03:54 |
oofnik | oh, alright, sorry hah | 03:54 |
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KhaBal | oofnik: is that the right kernel? | 03:54 |
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pietro_spina | keffo: If you did something similar the you will have to use the map( ) command and rootnoverify also... Hang on I'll post a link.. | 03:55 |
oofnik | i didn't download it but i think it's just source.. so it shouldn't matter | 03:55 |
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Derum | Whats the best way to get to learn more about linux and learn all of its commands? | 03:55 |
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iDennis | Anyone know how to format a usb stick in Ubuntu? | 03:56 |
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oofnik | iDennis do you want it to be vfat? | 03:56 |
iDennis | Well, is that the best to use? | 03:56 |
oofnik | if you want it to be viewable in windows | 03:57 |
iDennis | I want to be able to use it with all PCs | 03:57 |
iDennis | yeah | 03:57 |
gm78 | oofnik, hey....just shut down the computer...using another one in the house now. I lucked out, my room-mate was on her way to return a router and i caught her just as she was leaving the store...she is picking up some thermal grease :) | 03:57 |
oofnik | iDennis i can't remember the format command.. ehh sorry | 03:57 |
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gm78 | oofnik, what is the melting point of a cpu do u think? :-P | 03:57 |
oofnik | haha gm78 good job | 03:57 |
oofnik | i think AMD chips are rated to 85 c max or so | 03:58 |
pietro_spina | keffo: an old post of mine... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=213084#post213084 | 03:58 |
zoople | How do i intall a Java VM? | 03:58 |
oofnik | so technically you're safe, but you could have been under heavy load and you probably passed 60c at some point | 03:58 |
gm78 | zoople, open a private chat ill walk u through it | 03:58 |
iDennis | I know it's a stupid question, but can anyone else help me format my usb stick | 03:59 |
keffo | pietro_spina, thank you very much.. ill try | 03:59 |
gm78 | oofnik, good, it should be fine then | 03:59 |
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pietro_spina | keffo: np | 03:59 |
gm78 | iDennis, which device is it, sda? | 03:59 |
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iDennis | yes | 04:00 |
iDennis | gm78, yes. Sorry | 04:00 |
ECJB | mkfs.vfat /dev/sda ?? | 04:00 |
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oofnik | mkfs -t vfat /dev/sda i think | 04:01 |
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gm78 | iDennis, either mkfs.vfat /dev/sda or mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 | 04:01 |
tman | Hello there. I'm new to Ubuntu. I am having trouble setting up multimedia with my Ubuntu. Can anyone help? | 04:02 |
gm78 | iDennis, one of those will work | 04:02 |
iDennis | gm78, I'm sorry it is sda1 | 04:02 |
gm78 | sda is the device, sda1 is the partition | 04:02 |
iDennis | I just need to unmount it. Then test it | 04:02 |
iDennis | I see. | 04:02 |
oofnik | tman, what's the specific problem? | 04:02 |
gm78 | ok, unmount it (but dont eject it) and then do that format, then eject it, and plug it back in | 04:02 |
gm78 | iDennis, sorry, read above post | 04:02 |
tman | a couple. 1, I can't get wmv to stream to Totem. | 04:02 |
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iDennis | gm78, By eject do you mean, just pull it out? | 04:03 |
oofnik | tman did you install the w32codecs? | 04:03 |
tman | I have installed all w32Codecs. | 04:03 |
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keffo | works fine pietro_spina ! thank you so much | 04:03 |
gm78 | iDennis, NO | 04:03 |
oofnik | ah.. well do you have totem-gstreamer? you need totem-xine to use the w32codecs | 04:03 |
gm78 | iDennis, eject /dev/sda | 04:03 |
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oofnik | what does eject do gm78? | 04:04 |
pietro_spina | keffo: Excellent | 04:04 |
tman | How do I check for Totem-Xine? | 04:04 |
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oofnik | tman in totem, go to Help -> About | 04:04 |
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oofnik | and it will tell you if you're using gstreamer or xine | 04:04 |
pedingto | Why does apt-get hate me so? I'm getting an MD5Sum mismatch on something its trying to fetch. | 04:05 |
iDennis | gm78, Thank you very much. I have noted everything, so I will remember. I appreciate the help. Everything worked out great | 04:05 |
tman | Hold on, I did a apt-cache search... I let you know in a sec... | 04:05 |
gm78 | tman, i think there is a totem-xine package that replaces totem-gstreamer | 04:05 |
gm78 | iDennis, no problem | 04:05 |
oofnik | yeah gm78 thats what he needs to do | 04:05 |
wick2o | no apt-get for the wpa suppliment? anyone know of a tut for setting this up in ubuntu? | 04:05 |
tman | apt-cache tells you what is installed on your system, correct? | 04:06 |
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wick2o | misfit_toy: agreed, i am on the same boat | 04:06 |
oofnik | yes misfit_toy, it seems a lot of ubuntu users switch from fedora, that's what i did haha | 04:07 |
kwilcox | anyone handy with ACPI errors during installation? | 04:07 |
oofnik | usually because they're sick of RPM :-P | 04:07 |
misfit_toy | wick2o, after watching my HD churn last night for the 8000th time, I said f it and went for it. | 04:07 |
misfit_toy | testing xchat color here | 04:08 |
pedingto | Anyone got an idea of how I can fix my apt-get? lol | 04:08 |
misfit_toy | darnit... | 04:08 |
misfit_toy | again | 04:08 |
misfit_toy | sheesh | 04:08 |
wick2o | ped: apt-get update? | 04:08 |
flodine | i guys will ubuntu see my soundblaster card | 04:08 |
pedingto | fails at one of them | 04:09 |
tman | Is there another mirror to use for "ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net"? This one seems to be not responding. | 04:09 |
tman | Nevermind... | 04:09 |
pedingto | I get an MD5Sum mismatch | 04:09 |
flodine | will ubuntu see 32bit sound cards | 04:09 |
gm78 | flodine, what kind of sound card??? check if it is compatable with linux (google should help u with that) | 04:10 |
wick2o | misfit_toy: only prob im having is getting wpa setup for my wireless | 04:10 |
misfit_toy | wick2o, ndiswrapper will fix that, I'm onto that next | 04:11 |
kwilcox | wick2o, which wirless device are you using | 04:11 |
oofnik | tman how's it coming? | 04:11 |
pedingto | anyway night folks. | 04:11 |
tman | Ok, installing the totem-xine application did it! Now on to the DVD. | 04:11 |
gm78 | flodine, really depends on the card.....u need the chipset and the model number....a good way to test it out is with a live cd | 04:11 |
wick2o | ipw2100 or 2200 i forget off the top of my head | 04:11 |
gm78 | download knoppix and see if it detects your sound card | 04:11 |
oofnik | ok cool.. i haven't tried dvd yet so i don't know if i can help | 04:11 |
oofnik | i think you need the css decryption libs | 04:12 |
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tman | Yeah, I got those as well. | 04:12 |
wick2o | kwilcox: the card works..im using it now on a neibors wireless connection that doesnt have any encryption | 04:12 |
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wick2o | and if i enable wep encrypting then i can connected to my home network, but i prefer to use wpa | 04:12 |
tman | It tells me something about not being able to open dvd:// | 04:12 |
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kwilcox | wick2o, ok i thought you were having trouble getting it to work | 04:12 |
wick2o | just getting the wpa stuff setup | 04:13 |
oofnik | tman, thats odd.. let me go get a dvd and try it out | 04:13 |
gm78 | tman, u might need to install libdvdcss | 04:13 |
gm78 | tman, its not in the repos...u have to compile it, but it is incredibly easy to compile | 04:13 |
tman | Ok, that totem-xine must have cured alot. That got my dvd working as well. | 04:14 |
gm78 | tman, libdvdcss is a nice thing to have anyways. i use it to rip my dvds to hard disk (not by itself of course) | 04:14 |
kwilcox | autoGK for linux is needed o.0 someone get on that! | 04:15 |
tman | I take that back. Here is the error just poped up after playing two frames: "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?" | 04:15 |
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gm78 | tman, open a private chat with me, ill walk u thru install libdvdcss | 04:16 |
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tman | I already have them installed. Maybe it's a configuration thing? | 04:17 |
gm78 | tman, u already have libdvdcss installed??? unless u grabbed it from an unsupported repo or already compiled it urself, u dont have it | 04:17 |
oofnik | heh tman dvd works for me.. good luck haha | 04:17 |
absinthe_ | I'm using gdesklets/starterbar and I want to create a starter for Synaptic. I have but it says I must be root to use it. | 04:18 |
kwilcox | Anyone farmiliar with acpi errors upon installation? | 04:18 |
absinthe_ | How can I have it ask for passwd like the shortcut in administration? | 04:18 |
wick2o | anyone have probs with ettercap-gtk? | 04:18 |
wick2o | im getting an "the error was 'ABadIDChoice" | 04:19 |
rusty | New to linux and ubuntu. I want to play mp3s in music player. looked for XMMS in my synapic package manager. Nothing by that name there. I running ubuntu on a pretty old PC. Where is my XMMS package? | 04:19 |
gm78 | tman, started a private chat with u, ill walk u through installing it there | 04:19 |
pietro_spina | absinthe_: gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic | 04:19 |
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oofnik | can anyone test something quick for me please | 04:19 |
Strife | FINALLY installing correctly... | 04:19 |
oofnik | just open gstreamer-properties | 04:19 |
absinthe_ | pietro_spina, Thank you! | 04:19 |
iratsu | I get the following error when trying to run X with the nvidia driver: (EE) NVIDIA(0): The NVIDIA kernel module does not appear to be receiving interrupts generated by the NVIDIA graphics device. Please see the FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS section in the README for additional information Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device! *** Aborting *** (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia" (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usa | 04:19 |
iratsu | ble configuration. | 04:19 |
gm78 | rusty : xmms should be there.....it is a supported package as far as i know | 04:19 |
gm78 | rusty, vlc plays everything btw | 04:20 |
pietro_spina | absinthe_: np | 04:20 |
rusty | what is vlc? | 04:20 |
gm78 | oofnik, got it opened | 04:20 |
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gm78 | rusty, a media player | 04:20 |
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gm78 | rusty, does video and stuff too | 04:20 |
kwilcox | it stands for Video Lan something... it plays video media | 04:20 |
oofnik | gm78 in the video tab whats selected for input? | 04:20 |
rusty | where do i get vlc? | 04:21 |
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kwilcox | www.videolan.org | 04:21 |
absinthe_ | one more question. Beep media player works great except every once in awhile it will pause play. I have to hit pause and then unpause to fix it | 04:21 |
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gm78 | rusty, it is in synaptic if u enable universe and multiverse | 04:21 |
gm78 | oofnik, video4linux | 04:21 |
odie5533 | Is there a way to minimise RAM usage by disabling daemons? and how? | 04:21 |
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oofnik | gm78 does it test correctly? | 04:22 |
evader | Hi. I'm running breezy and VMware errors during install saying that gcc 4.0.1 isn't supported... | 04:22 |
nomasteryoda | bob2, anyone on Ubuntu team working on making Bluetooth work as it does in SuSE 9.3? | 04:22 |
tman | would I be able to get libdvdcss if I have universe and multiverse on? | 04:22 |
gm78 | oofnik, it shows a grey snowy line at the top of the black window...so i guess so :P | 04:22 |
nomasteryoda | bob2, I can turn on my Bluetooth mouse and it just works | 04:22 |
oofnik | is the pipeline 'v4lsrc? | 04:22 |
gm78 | tman, nope....ubuntu does not ship it at all. there has already been a lawsuit over it | 04:22 |
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gm78 | oofnik, yes | 04:23 |
Ubuntu_Brazil | hello all. How can I install Ubuntu with enlightnment? | 04:23 |
oofnik | damn well why doesn't mine work.. argh | 04:23 |
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jo | sudo apt-get install libpt-pluins-v4l wont instal how its call then? | 04:23 |
nomasteryoda | oofnik, did you install the whole win32 codecs package and mplayer? | 04:23 |
nomasteryoda | i think when you do that it will install. | 04:24 |
absinthe_ | one more question. Beep media player works great except every once in awhile it will pause play. I have to hit pause and then unpause to fix it | 04:24 |
oofnik | yep nomasteryoda i got that | 04:24 |
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nomasteryoda | at least on mine... but i may have added some other repos | 04:24 |
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oofnik | it's not a codec issue, it's the video4linux pipeline | 04:24 |
nomasteryoda | right | 04:24 |
gm78 | oofnik, im not sure | 04:24 |
rusty | My choices for vlc are debian, familiar, suse, mandrake, red hat, fedora. Which one workks with ubuntu? | 04:24 |
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gm78 | oofnik, lol, i suck at helping u fix problems and ur good at helping me fix problems :-P | 04:25 |
oofnik | haha gm78 you just have simpler problems! | 04:25 |
oofnik | oh well.. so does anyone else want to help me fix my video4linux problem | 04:25 |
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jo | wen i run xawtv /dev/video0 working but not abel to do in gnomemeeting that takes /dev/video1 | 04:26 |
nomasteryoda | oofnik, other dialog box | 04:26 |
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jo | not pusbul to make /dev/video0 in gnomeeting? | 04:26 |
_unome | anyone knows how to change desktop background from terminal? | 04:26 |
oofnik | jo just make a sym link from /dev/video0 to /dev/video1 | 04:27 |
gm78 | oofnik, lol | 04:27 |
jo | doint no hao w to do that | 04:27 |
oofnik | sudo ln -s /dev/video0 /dev/video1 | 04:27 |
absinthe_ | I'm using Beep Media Player. It pauses play while I'm browsing the internet (firefox) at random. I have to hit pause/unpause to get play to resume. Anyone know how to fix this? | 04:28 |
rusty | I want to download vlc for ubuntu. which version works: debian, familiar, mandrade, YOPY, fedora | 04:28 |
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jo | wont work oredy ther | 04:29 |
absinthe_ | rusty, use debian | 04:29 |
jo | but hawo to get v4l1 | 04:29 |
jo | tha wil fix it | 04:29 |
rusty | thanks, absinthe | 04:29 |
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absinthe_ | rusty, from terminal do "sudo dpkg -i "name of vlcpackage.deb" | 04:29 |
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absinthe_ | rusty, np | 04:29 |
jo | befor it was apt-get install libpt-pluins-v4l | 04:30 |
jo | but not longer there | 04:30 |
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gm78 | absinthe_, do u happen to have esd running? | 04:30 |
absinthe_ | gm78, I am using Alsa. | 04:30 |
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absinthe_ | It's working fine now. It's only when I'm using the mouse+browser | 04:31 |
absinthe_ | gm78, It's working fine now. It's only when I'm using the mouse+browser | 04:31 |
finite | Is there a website with information/experiences etc on Ubuntu on laptops/notebooks? Especially with respect to off-the-shelf ones. | 04:31 |
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oofnik | what's the difference between v4l and v4l2? | 04:33 |
jo | is ther any amsn video suport yes andt wil it work in gaim? | 04:33 |
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oofnik | jo, not yet i don't think.. did you ever get your video thing working | 04:33 |
jo | v4l2 wont run on gnomeeting | 04:33 |
jo | v4l wil run | 04:34 |
jo | on my gentoo box works great | 04:34 |
jo | but wen i select v4l2 wont work same in heren but in here not abel to select v4l | 04:34 |
oofnik | jo i can't get v4l to work either.. strange | 04:35 |
jo | in xawtv i see my self | 04:35 |
absinthe_ | Will removing ssh alter performance on my box? | 04:35 |
jo | but in gnomeeting it syest wont /dev/vedeo0 its taking /dev/vedeo1 al the them | 04:36 |
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c_rodge | how can i install java on ubuntu 4.10 | 04:37 |
jo | i no its a bug | 04:37 |
jo | do the fix things fast in urbuntu | 04:37 |
oofnik | guys when i cat /dev/video0 i get this: /dev/video0: Cannot allocate memory | 04:37 |
oofnik | any ideas? | 04:38 |
jo | ore do i have to wait andt wait en wait | 04:38 |
pietro_spina | absinthe_: I think ubuntu just gived you the client... sshd is not running by default.. | 04:38 |
c_rodge | how can i install java in ubuntu 4.10 | 04:38 |
pietro_spina | absinthe_: gived =gives | 04:38 |
cast_ | /etc/init.d/ssh start | 04:38 |
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bimberi | c_rodge: check here (btw 4.10 is warty) ... | 04:39 |
bimberi | !java | 04:39 |
ubotu | hmm... java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java | 04:39 |
IceDC571 | hmm.. what advantages does warty have over hoary? | 04:39 |
finite | c_rodge, another option is to download java from Sun's website and run the installer (assuming x86). | 04:39 |
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absinthe_ | pietro_spina, Thanks | 04:39 |
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jasmuz | IceDC571: none | 04:41 |
pietro_spina | absinthe_: if you run the ssh server per cast's example be sure you have srtong passwords as you will be scanned.... | 04:41 |
bimberi | IceDC571: warty is the prior release. Older but still supported | 04:41 |
jo | pwc Philips webcam module version 10.0.6-unofficial loaded. | 04:41 |
jo | pwc Logitech QuickCam 4000 Pro USB webcam detected. | 04:41 |
jo | andt stil wont work | 04:41 |
pietro_spina | absinthe_: It's real no big deal though, just fills up some logs :-) | 04:42 |
jo | how to forst gnomeeting to take /dev/video0 grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr | 04:42 |
absinthe_ | pietro_spina, heh, ok. I don't use ssh so I'm removing i | 04:42 |
pietro_spina | absinthe_: I altered the port i run it on... | 04:43 |
jo | in stad of my tv kaard gr | 04:43 |
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Vinh | Any one know how to line syntax how to mount a partition of hdb? | 04:43 |
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IceDC571 | i was just wondering why people still used it | 04:43 |
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IceDC571 | too lazy to upgrade eh? | 04:43 |
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Vinh | err i mean hda | 04:43 |
pietro_spina | absinthe_: oh... then that will save you like whole 100kb of space hehehe | 04:43 |
wick2o | umm apt-get wapsupplicant doesnt work, its this a mistake or am i missing a source in myu sources.list | 04:43 |
jo | wen i wont to go run unstabel testing how to handel | 04:43 |
absinthe_ | pietro_spina, Bah! I'm paranoid so I removed it. lol | 04:44 |
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dts | every time i upgrade my kernel all my grub configuration changes get overwritten and my system becomes unusable, how can I prevent this? | 04:44 |
jo | run gentoo | 04:44 |
finite | dts, keep the last known | 04:44 |
dts | finite last known what? | 04:44 |
absinthe_ | pietro_spina, I'm also a space-freak. I need every available kb of free space. I'm rather obsessive about it =) | 04:44 |
finite | dts, keep the last known good menu item under the autmatic configuration line. | 04:44 |
finite | dts, sorry about that. | 04:44 |
dts | finite is there a seperate automatic configration file? | 04:45 |
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pietro_spina | absinthe_: I was getting an almost constant scan from Sogang University In Korea untill I changed th port.... (grin) now nothing... | 04:45 |
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finite | In the file /boot/grub/menu.lst | 04:45 |
oofnik | when i cat /dev/video0 i get this: /dev/video0: Cannot allocate memory ... anyone know what could be going on? i have 1 GB of ram... | 04:46 |
jo | hm | 04:46 |
c_rodge | ok if i go to suns website and download it, how do i install it | 04:46 |
absinthe_ | pietro_spina, Pluggin the holes in your boat? =) | 04:46 |
pietro_spina | absinthe_: so you used to defrag everyother day in your windows days? | 04:46 |
finite | dts, there is a line that says "end debian automagic kernels list" (in all caps). | 04:46 |
absinthe_ | pietro_spina, lol, yes | 04:46 |
finite | dts, in the file /boot/grub/menu.lst | 04:46 |
absinthe_ | pietro_spina, I'd uninstall programs that I hadn't used for awhile then reinstall them days later all the time | 04:47 |
jo | is ther not yet video skype in urbunto | 04:47 |
dts | finite and everything after that get'ssaved? | 04:47 |
dts | thanks i'll try that | 04:47 |
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oofnik | jo do you mean ubuntu? whats up with your spelling | 04:48 |
c_rodge | i really need help, i need java, | 04:48 |
c_rodge | for warty | 04:48 |
pietro_spina | absinthe_: they kept trying to login as root and a dictionary of passwords... but I had disabled remote root login they were just banging on the door and filling my logs... hehe | 04:48 |
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oofnik | c_rodge it's not in synaptic? | 04:48 |
wick2o | apt-get wpasupplicant no worky...any help? | 04:48 |
c_rodge | where would i check it in there | 04:48 |
oofnik | just search for j2re | 04:48 |
Taken_By_Kristin | Really quick gentlemen...howcome every time I restart my computer, I have to redo my wireless connection? | 04:49 |
finite | dts, Everything after that is retained. I had the same problem (wrong partitions etc in automatically generated lines) | 04:49 |
pietro_spina | absinthe_: I used to do that... now I'm just a distro junkie... | 04:49 |
Vinh | /dev/hda1 /media/windows vfat umask=000 0 0 <<--- now what do i change to show the 2nd fat partiion on the same drive, hda? | 04:49 |
goldfish | Taken_By_Kristin: what do you mean 'redo' ? | 04:49 |
Taken_By_Kristin | Well my wireless card is still installed. | 04:49 |
absinthe_ | pietro_spina, Heh, some people are persistent. | 04:49 |
jo | sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla | 04:49 |
Taken_By_Kristin | I just have to type iwlan0 scan and stuff. | 04:49 |
Taken_By_Kristin | All over again. | 04:49 |
Taken_By_Kristin | And then configure the settings. | 04:49 |
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pietro_spina | absinthe_: code red worms even more so.... | 04:50 |
c_rodge | it says it is not installable | 04:50 |
Taken_By_Kristin | Is there a way to stop that so I'll always be connected? | 04:50 |
finite | dts, If you know a section that works, keep a copy of it under that demarking line. Use that to boot in. And then change the list manually.... | 04:50 |
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c_rodge | it says not installable, in synptic | 04:51 |
oofnik | c_rodge.. weird.. what is the exact message | 04:51 |
finite | dts, ...so that you get it at the top as your default one. Also, you could correcti it manually after each kernel update, before shutting down. | 04:51 |
advantage1_ | how do i make my konsole transperint | 04:52 |
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iratsu | I get the following error when trying to run X with the nvidia driver: (EE) NVIDIA(0): The NVIDIA kernel module does not appear to be receiving interrupts generated by the NVIDIA graphics device. Please see the FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS section in the README for additional information Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device! *** Aborting *** (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia" (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usa | 04:52 |
iratsu | ble configuration. | 04:52 |
dts | finite, is there a way i can change the default kernel automatically? | 04:52 |
c_rodge | could not mark all packages for installation | 04:52 |
Taken_By_Kristin | Howcome I have to reconfigure my wireless internet connection every time I restart? | 04:52 |
advantage1_ | how do i make my konsole transperent | 04:52 |
parabolize | advantage1_: ask in #kubuntu | 04:53 |
advantage1_ | where am eye ? | 04:53 |
parabolize | #ubuntu | 04:53 |
advantage1_ | ok | 04:53 |
advantage1_ | how do i get there | 04:53 |
parabolize | type /join #kubuntu | 04:53 |
Taken_By_Kristin | Double click #kubuntu | 04:53 |
Taken_By_Kristin | Or that. | 04:53 |
Taken_By_Kristin | My way is easier. =P | 04:54 |
finite | dts, I am not sure; not a sensible one anyway :-) and :-( | 04:54 |
Taken_By_Kristin | Parabolize you think you can help me out really quick? | 04:54 |
dts | finite, heh | 04:54 |
Taken_By_Kristin | Howcome I have to reconfigure my wireless internet connection every time I restart? | 04:54 |
concept10 | dts, you can set default kernel in /boot/grub/menu.lst | 04:54 |
liable | Taken_By_Kristin: such as essid? | 04:55 |
ECJB | Can I use LOADLIN to boot the live CD off my HD? | 04:55 |
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parabolize | I'm no good with wireless. sorry | 04:55 |
goldfish | Taken_By_Kristin: you got dhcp set up? | 04:55 |
Taken_By_Kristin | Yeah I do. | 04:55 |
Taken_By_Kristin | Goldfish. | 04:55 |
Taken_By_Kristin | And not like that Liable. | 04:55 |
Taken_By_Kristin | I still have my wireless card installed it still detects it after typing 'ndiswrapper -l' | 04:55 |
Taken_By_Kristin | I just have to scan for it again and then configure it. | 04:56 |
jo | Loaded 156 plugins with 302 features. | 04:56 |
goldfish | Taken_By_Kristin: i think u can use dhclient iwlan0 | 04:56 |
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goldfish | Taken_By_Kristin: oh, ok. | 04:56 |
goldfish | hmmm | 04:56 |
c_rodge | i still cant get java, i need it to play a game on internet | 04:56 |
dts | concept10, can i select the default kernel to be the option i selected at my last boot? | 04:56 |
goldfish | maybe you could make a startup script to do it for you Taken_By_Kristin | 04:56 |
Strife | c_rodge: java.sun.com | 04:56 |
Taken_By_Kristin | Does everyone have to do that who connects wirelessly? | 04:56 |
c_rodge | what does that have | 04:56 |
goldfish | Taken_By_Kristin: i did | 04:57 |
goldfish | !java | 04:57 |
ubotu | well, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java | 04:57 |
goldfish | c_rodge: follow that link | 04:57 |
absinthe_ | I'm using Beep Media Player. It pauses play while I'm browsing the internet (firefox) at random. I have to hit pause/unpause to get play to resume. Anyone know how to fix this? | 04:57 |
Taken_By_Kristin | Hmm...is it difficult? Do you think you can give me a quick run through? | 04:57 |
Strife | Taken_By_Kristin: so you mean you don't load ndiswrapper in /etc/modules? | 04:57 |
Taken_By_Kristin | Or show me a site that does? | 04:57 |
Taken_By_Kristin | No I don't Strife. | 04:57 |
Strife | Taken_By_Kristin: sudo echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules | 04:57 |
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Taken_By_Kristin | It sounds like the start up script would work though, Goldfish. | 04:58 |
Strife | Taken_By_Kristin: methinks | 04:58 |
Taken_By_Kristin | So just type 'sudo echo ndiswrapper /etc/modules' | 04:58 |
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Taken_By_Kristin | And I should be good? | 04:58 |
Strife | Taken_By_Kristin: no, sudo echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules | 04:58 |
bob2 | no | 04:58 |
bob2 | Strife: that won't work either | 04:58 |
Taken_By_Kristin | Ok. | 04:58 |
Taken_By_Kristin | Thanks Strife. | 04:58 |
Strife | bob2: hrm? | 04:58 |
Strife | Taken_By_Kristin: wait | 04:58 |
bob2 | Taken_By_Kristin: echo ndiswrapper | sudo tee /etc/modules | 04:58 |
c_rodge | what do i do after i go to java.sun.com | 04:59 |
CarlFK | heh | 04:59 |
goldfish | c_rodge: follow the java link | 04:59 |
Taken_By_Kristin | Oh yeah...Seveas was mentioning something like that heh... | 04:59 |
Strife | bob2: uh, why? | 04:59 |
bob2 | Strife: (the shell redirection which does the writing will run as you, not root) | 04:59 |
CarlFK | there has got to be a beter way... | 04:59 |
Taken_By_Kristin | Thanks Bob2, Strife, and goldfish! | 04:59 |
c_rodge | what java link | 04:59 |
Taken_By_Kristin | That takes care of redoing my reconfiguring when I restart? | 04:59 |
bob2 | Strife: something like sudo "sh -c echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules" is another option | 04:59 |
goldfish | !java | 04:59 |
ubotu | extra, extra, read all about it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java | 04:59 |
goldfish | c_rodge: that one :) | 04:59 |
Thunderguy | Hey, anyone know how I would set a default resolution in Hoary Hedgehog, changing X resolutions everytime I log in is getting annoying. | 04:59 |
Strife | bob2: interesting.... oh well, I always edit it rather than echoing :) | 04:59 |
c_rodge | which | 04:59 |
c_rodge | goldfish can i pm u | 05:00 |
goldfish | no ! | 05:00 |
oofnik | does anyone have a working video4linux device | 05:00 |
goldfish | im a bit busy , sorry | 05:00 |
c_rodge | ok | 05:00 |
c_rodge | but which link | 05:00 |
concept10 | Thunderguy, edit | 05:00 |
Thunderguy | concept10: What would I edit though? | 05:00 |
goldfish | c_rodge: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java | 05:01 |
concept10 | Thunderguy, Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to remove unwanted video resolutions | 05:01 |
c_rodge | i have tried that and i didnt know what to do | 05:01 |
Strife | c_rodge: do what I do, just download the jdk and install it somewhere, add that to your path | 05:01 |
ECJB | What's the difference between 'sudo' and 'su'? (Don't have Linux running to go play with MAN or INFO...) | 05:01 |
absinthe_ | Has anyone gotten Electric Sheep working with Ubunut? | 05:01 |
Strife | I like to put things like that in either /opt or /usr/local | 05:02 |
c_rodge | i have no idea what ur talking about | 05:02 |
c_rodge | strife | 05:02 |
Thunderguy | concept10: Thanks man, btw, is the sync rates in the same file? | 05:02 |
goldfish | ECJB: su is switch user, sudo is superuser do, i.e runa command with root priveleges | 05:02 |
Thunderguy | Im on 60hz | 05:02 |
oren | ECJB: su gives you a shell, and requires the root password, sudo is a system that lets you run certain commands (or even a shell) as root by authenticating as yourself | 05:02 |
concept10 | Thunderguy, not sure right off hand | 05:02 |
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CarlFK | hey bob2 - wana see a weird one? isa vga = http://pictures.foxshare.net/carl/temp/Jun27/p1010004.jpg | 05:02 |
shmoolik | hello | 05:03 |
shmoolik | i m looking for quick start for openoffice | 05:03 |
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ECJB | http://www.openoffice.org/about_us/new.html | 05:04 |
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c_rodge | strife, im downloading the jdk, no how do i install it | 05:05 |
shmoolik | ECJB, thanks but i mlooking for deb package | 05:05 |
battlecat | Hi can you use apt to instlal something off of a CD? | 05:05 |
Strife | CarlFK: ooh, I saw that plenty of times today | 05:05 |
ECJB | Oh - you mean you can't find the system tray thingie... | 05:05 |
concept10 | Thunderguy, I dont see the refresh rates, I had to delete those unwanted resoltions today, that was really bugging me too | 05:05 |
Strife | c_rodge: you extract it and run the binary install file as root, by following the directions | 05:05 |
bob2 | CarlFK: hah | 05:05 |
CarlFK | Strife - i just figured out the cause: isa vga card. | 05:05 |
c_rodge | im a total noob so i dont really have agood idea what ur talking about | 05:05 |
Strife | I meant CarlFK on that last one | 05:06 |
Strife | erm | 05:06 |
Strife | no | 05:06 |
c_rodge | ok after i download it, where do i extract it | 05:06 |
Strife | nevermind | 05:06 |
Thunderguy | concept10: Well Thanks again. | 05:06 |
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Strife | whereever the hell you want, c_rodge | 05:06 |
dave_ | I only have 1 setting for my screen resolution | 05:06 |
Thunderguy | Any reason why my xmms would crash everytime I open it? | 05:06 |
Strife | c_rodge: like I said, I like putting that stuff in either /opt or /usr/local/ | 05:06 |
c_rodge | it doesnt matter, ok after i do that how do i install as root | 05:06 |
bob2 | CarlFK: yeah, multiple cards makes multiseat kick in | 05:06 |
Strife | with sudo | 05:06 |
Strife | what is multiseat? | 05:06 |
bob2 | aiui | 05:06 |
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c_rodge | strife, can i pm u | 05:07 |
Strife | no I am about to leave | 05:07 |
odie5533 | How do I check what programs are using a device I am trying to unmount? | 05:07 |
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c_rodge | o ok | 05:07 |
ECJB | http://documentation.openoffice.org/ | 05:07 |
c_rodge | but how do i put it in opt or /usr/local/ | 05:07 |
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goldfish | odie5533: not letting you unmount? | 05:08 |
Strife | c_rodge sudo mv whatever /opt | 05:08 |
odie5533 | goldfish: sure isnt | 05:08 |
Strife | ok later gentlemen (and possibly one or two ladies) | 05:08 |
c_rodge | what is whateever | 05:08 |
c_rodge | like java download | 05:08 |
goldfish | odie5533: there is a force option | 05:08 |
wick2o | anyone have exp install wpa_supplicant manually? | 05:08 |
odie5533 | -f? | 05:08 |
odie5533 | tried that | 05:08 |
goldfish | hmmmm | 05:08 |
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c_rodge | can anyone else help me in installin java | 05:09 |
ECJB | http://java.com/ may be able to help. | 05:09 |
c_rodge | ive looked there, didnt really help | 05:09 |
monchichi | what java are you trying to install? | 05:10 |
oren | try searching in synaptic for 'java' | 05:10 |
monchichi | i dont think its in synaptic unless you add an extra repository | 05:11 |
_simple | look at the ubuntu starters guide | 05:11 |
c_rodge | sun java | 05:11 |
c_rodge | i guess i need it to play a game | 05:11 |
monchichi | use blackdown java, theres ubuntu packages floating around somewhere | 05:11 |
c_rodge | on interneyt | 05:11 |
c_rodge | ive tried that too, it says not installable | 05:12 |
monchichi | does it say why? | 05:12 |
pietro_spina | !java | 05:12 |
ubotu | java is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java | 05:12 |
_simple | http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre ? | 05:12 |
battlecat | will a linux that is optimized for i686 work on a p3-600 | 05:12 |
crimsun | yes | 05:12 |
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c_rodge | im downloading the jdk right noew | 05:13 |
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c_rodge | now | 05:13 |
absinthe_ | I'm using firestarter how can I allow traffic in/out on a certain port (for bittorent)? | 05:13 |
battlecat | was that a yes at me crimsun? | 05:13 |
monchichi | wait, you want the jre not the jdk | 05:13 |
c_rodge | where can i find it | 05:13 |
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virgule | Do I really need 'hotplug'? | 05:13 |
monchichi | virgule: if you use usb or pcmcia, then probably yes | 05:14 |
wick2o | am i the ONLY one who cant get wpa_supplicant from apt-get? | 05:14 |
monchichi | c_rodge, the jre is included in the jdk, so just download that | 05:14 |
monchichi | its just overkill is all | 05:14 |
monchichi | jdk is for java programmers | 05:15 |
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c_rodge | man i really need to get this, i have no idea what im doing | 05:15 |
absinthe_ | I'm using firestarter how can I allow traffic in/out on a certain port (for bittorent)? | 05:16 |
virgule | only a USB mice | 05:16 |
monchichi | absinthe_: make a rule | 05:16 |
CarlFK | bob2 - who said mutiple cards? 1 isa vga card - thats all. | 05:16 |
absinthe_ | monchichi, How, and what should it contain? | 05:16 |
monchichi | absinthe, well, look at whos being blocked in the firestarter gui | 05:17 |
monchichi | and right click and allow everyone to connect on that port | 05:17 |
nalioth_wrkn | absinthe_: read this http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130 | 05:17 |
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virgule | Since I only have a USB mice --no other 'hotplugable' devices-- do I still need to run hotplug at boot? | 05:17 |
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nomasteryoda|w | nalioth, hey thanks for that comment... now i'm playin with full debian | 05:18 |
absinthe_ | nalioth_wrkn, thanks | 05:18 |
monchichi | 6881 is the traditional BT port, but now it uses all kinds of weird ports | 05:18 |
goldfish | try not running it | 05:18 |
goldfish | yeah | 05:18 |
monchichi | virgule: im not sure.. but why turn it off? | 05:18 |
nalioth | nomasteryoda|w: the comment "he knows what he's doing"? | 05:18 |
goldfish | alot of isp's are begininning to block 6881 | 05:18 |
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virgule | it take ~20 seconds just for that.. I dont know patience ;) | 05:18 |
Varanger | hi! I can make php and apache work together ! | 05:19 |
Varanger | how can I do ? | 05:19 |
monchichi | vrigule, heh, fair enough, try turning it off and see what happens... you can always turn it back on if your mouse wont work | 05:19 |
virgule | got it... | 05:20 |
CarlFK | Varanger - i have the ilne to make it happen... ust a asec | 05:20 |
monchichi | varanger: just "sudo apt-get install apache2 php5" | 05:20 |
monchichi | or php4 | 05:20 |
CarlFK | Varanger - just sudo apt-get install apache2 php4 | 05:21 |
CarlFK | Varanger - do you plan on using mysql too? (aka LAMP) | 05:22 |
Varanger | CarlFK: thanks! the problem was that I also needed universe ! | 05:22 |
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Varanger | CarlFK: for now, no... I am learning php first | 05:22 |
Varanger | later I'll start with mysql (the book I am reading has info on LAMP too...) | 05:23 |
Varanger | CarlFK: great! | 05:23 |
CarlFK | here is my whole lamp line: sudo apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 apache2 php4 libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php4-mysql | 05:23 |
virgule | ok I sure need it mouse stopped working right away without outplug. 'alight | 05:23 |
CarlFK | Varanger - then I install http://mamboserver.com | 05:24 |
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wick2o | anyone know the debain main repository for synaptic? | 05:24 |
monchichi | virgule: it shouldnt take 20 seconds to start the hotplug system... takes about 2 on my system | 05:24 |
CarlFK | someday (maybe in a week or 2) I will have some real sites running that setup. it is really fun ;) | 05:24 |
virgule | 300 Mhz.... ;) | 05:25 |
advantage1_ | join hay | 05:25 |
monchichi | do people bother looking things up in google anymore? | 05:25 |
virgule | but still I think yu are right lots of stuffs take loooong since im with ubuntu | 05:25 |
advantage1_ | how do i join | 05:25 |
monchichi | ouch 300 mhz... | 05:25 |
advantage1_ | a diferent room | 05:25 |
virgule | boogle | 05:25 |
virgule | ..and still running 24/7 | 05:25 |
advantage1_ | how do i get email | 05:25 |
advantage1_ | anyone know how to get email ? | 05:26 |
virgule | advantage1: 'evolution' is the default mail client | 05:26 |
advantage1_ | i need help | 05:26 |
advantage1_ | what do i do | 05:26 |
CarlFK | advantage1_ - get it from where? | 05:26 |
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monchichi | get email? | 05:27 |
advantage1_ | i need email | 05:27 |
advantage1_ | how do i get email | 05:27 |
monchichi | advantage1_: http://gmail.com | 05:27 |
monchichi | or are you kidding? | 05:27 |
monchichi | or do you want to serve your own email? | 05:28 |
advantage1_ | i want email | 05:28 |
nalioth | advantage1_: www.gmail.com | 05:28 |
advantage1_ | like i wanna type email | 05:28 |
goldfish | mutt | 05:28 |
Vinh | in terminal, how do u log out as sudo root and gob ack to normal user? | 05:28 |
nalioth | advantage1_: thunderbird, sylpheed, evolution, pine, mutt | 05:29 |
advantage1_ | exit | 05:29 |
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odie5533 | How do I make a link that will jump you to the target instead of hard link? | 05:29 |
nalioth | Vinh: sudo only lasts 5 minutes, and if you dont put the 'sudo' in front of command, you are a regular user | 05:29 |
goldfish | ln -s | 05:29 |
advantage1_ | how do i install my windows 98 cd | 05:29 |
advantage1_ | ? | 05:29 |
goldfish | a.k.a soft-link | 05:29 |
goldfish | advantage1_: lol | 05:29 |
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Vinh | anyway to not wait 5mins | 05:30 |
nalioth | mondays suck | 05:30 |
Vinh | im mounting drive and testing to read only | 05:30 |
nalioth | Vinh: don't use 'sudo' | 05:30 |
goldfish | Vinh: you can change it in the sudo config file | 05:30 |
Vinh | and i can still write, must be in root? | 05:30 |
goldfish | hmmm | 05:30 |
jasmuz | advantage1_: i think you are playing with us | 05:30 |
nalioth | jasmuz: yer troll detector isnt working? | 05:30 |
goldfish | advantage1_: asl wtf loel omfg pwnsauce cybarrrrr 11!!!oneone | 05:30 |
jasmuz | nalioth: no....it isnt | 05:31 |
Vinh | /dev/hda5 /media/backupdrive vfat umask=0444 0 0 <--- thats what i have and i can still write to it :( | 05:31 |
advantage1_ | yeah.. jus kidden im a super linux nerd from the 5th dimension.. jus messin | 05:31 |
goldfish | maybe that umask setting allows everyone to write to it Vinh | 05:31 |
goldfish | i cant remember my umask im afriad | 05:32 |
nalioth | goldfish: umask=0000 allows all users | 05:32 |
goldfish | ah right | 05:32 |
goldfish | thanks | 05:32 |
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nalioth | goldfish: don't thank me, i'm channeling someone in here (let me see who i can blame) | 05:33 |
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advantage1_ | i like crawl thru directories wit h ssh | 05:33 |
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Vinh | if i do sudo *.. it still doesnt ask for password, how do i make it ask for password again? | 05:33 |
goldfish | nalioth: :) | 05:33 |
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goldfish | Vinh: it wont ask for 5 minutes | 05:34 |
nalioth | Vinh: the first time, it asks. you wait 5 or 10 minutes (am not sure of the timeout) and it will ask again | 05:34 |
KhaBal | wish my sound was working | 05:34 |
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absinthe_ | I'm using Beep Media Player. It pauses play while I'm browsing the internet (firefox) at random. I have to hit pause/unpause to get play to resume. Anyone know how to fix this? | 05:34 |
nalioth | KhaBal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary | 05:34 |
advantage1_ | how do u go on interent | 05:34 |
monchichi | absinthe_: i would guess it's flash plugins that are interfering | 05:34 |
monchichi | absinthe_: turn on dmix for your card | 05:34 |
nalioth | absinthe_: firefox suX0rs (my opinion) | 05:35 |
KhaBal | whenever i try to fbsetbg a picture it tells me to esetroot and eterm? | 05:35 |
KhaBal | whats the problem? | 05:35 |
absinthe_ | nalioth, What do you use? | 05:35 |
goldfish | KhaBal: run 'fbsetbg -i' | 05:35 |
nalioth | absinthe_: galeon and kazehakase | 05:35 |
absinthe_ | nalioth, What a name. | 05:35 |
Fazer | nalioth: have you used opera before? | 05:35 |
nalioth | Fazer: way long ago when i (ab)used windows, i used opera | 05:36 |
KhaBal | Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion | 05:36 |
KhaBal | Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset | 05:36 |
monchichi | advantage1_: notice how you're being ignored...? | 05:36 |
Fazer | nalioth: and is galeon better? | 05:36 |
nalioth | absinthe_: kazehakase is a japanese made gecko wrapper | 05:36 |
goldfish | KhaBal: hmmm | 05:36 |
absinthe_ | nalioth, Oh ok. | 05:36 |
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nalioth | Fazer: i stopped using non-free stuff a long time ago | 05:36 |
tclhal | If I add myself to a group I find that the change does not take effect until I log out and in again. Is there a way to add onesself to a group and benefit immediately without logging out and back in again? | 05:36 |
nalioth | Fazer: i'm a open source evangelist | 05:36 |
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Fazer | nalioth: I see.. | 05:37 |
nalioth | Fazer: i don't like adware | 05:37 |
absinthe_ | nalioth, Isn't Galeon using mozilla though? | 05:37 |
nalioth | Fazer: even more than i don't like non-free stuff | 05:37 |
Fazer | nalioth: got the damn point. | 05:37 |
nalioth | absinthe_: galeon, kazehakase both use the gecko engine | 05:38 |
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billytwowilly | how do I make evolution print nice calendars of all my stuff to do in a month? | 05:40 |
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KhaBal | make: imlib2-config: Command not found | 05:42 |
KhaBal | make: imlib2-config: Command not found | 05:42 |
KhaBal | cc -DPIXMAP_SUPPORT -DHAVE_UNISTD_H -o Esetroot Esetroot.c | 05:42 |
KhaBal | make: cc: Command not found | 05:42 |
KhaBal | make: *** [Esetroot] Error 127 | 05:42 |
KhaBal | what does this mean? | 05:43 |
virgule | imlib2-config is missing | 05:43 |
KhaBal | sigh ok | 05:43 |
nalioth | KhaBal: install imlib and imlib-dev | 05:43 |
KhaBal | is it in synaptic? | 05:43 |
nalioth | KhaBal: should be | 05:43 |
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mdz | KhaBal: you'll also want to install build-essential, to fix the second error | 05:44 |
nalioth | mdz: good call (i'm tired) | 05:44 |
nalioth | or as we say in Texas, "ahm tarred" | 05:44 |
MisterMattiMoo | ok so i just installed the new version of Ubuntu, but i cant get the sound to work. I have Sound Blaster Audigy 2, and have looked through the Wiki but found very little. Any ideas? | 05:45 |
KhaBal | there imlib1 | 05:45 |
crimsun | MisterMattiMoo: amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on | 05:45 |
KhaBal | theres imlib11 | 05:45 |
nalioth | MisterMattiMoo: gimme a minute, my browser is locked atm | 05:45 |
nalioth | MisterMattiMoo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary | 05:45 |
nalioth | MisterMattiMoo: crimsun knows best | 05:46 |
nalioth | KhaBal: install imlib2 | 05:46 |
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nalioth | and imlib2-dev | 05:46 |
monchichi | KhaBal: there should be an imlib2 package in synaptic | 05:46 |
nalioth | KhaBal: and don't forget "build-essential" | 05:48 |
virgule | oooh the packages name are libimlib2 and libimlib2-dev | 05:48 |
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MisterMattiMoo | Ok cool, im trying it out right now. I am a reborn linux person. I havent used it in a while. LOOONNNNG while | 05:48 |
brian_ | hey all | 05:48 |
CarlFK | crimsun- I was banned from -devel a while ago because the freenode server saw my 8 /join commands as a flood and would kick me, and auto connect would connec, then the joins, then the kick.. apparently for hours... | 05:48 |
brian_ | anyone have any idea why my sound just stopped working? | 05:48 |
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nalioth | brian_: is the cat playing behind the puter? | 05:49 |
KhaBal | it says insert cd | 05:49 |
brian_ | no | 05:49 |
CarlFK | duh.. so now that I have that under control, can you unban me? | 05:49 |
brian_ | its plugged in | 05:49 |
KhaBal | i inserted still not working | 05:49 |
brian_ | it says esd cannot start pipeline or w/e | 05:49 |
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crimsun | brian_: what sound card? | 05:49 |
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brian_ | an onboard one.. my sb live would NOT work with esd so i decided to use the onboard | 05:49 |
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crimsun | brian_: which sblive do you have? | 05:50 |
brian_ | value | 05:50 |
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skuter_khayalan | ya saya | 05:50 |
crimsun | brian_: not the 7.1 nor the 24-bit, correct? | 05:50 |
hardcampa- | That's wierd.. soundblasters should be liked by linux in general | 05:50 |
skuter_khayalan | suma kamu sehat kah ni | 05:50 |
brian_ | dont think so | 05:50 |
crimsun | brian_: please make sure | 05:50 |
brian_ | sound blaster live value 3.1 i beleive | 05:50 |
brian_ | im NOT using it though | 05:50 |
brian_ | my onboard was working yesterday with esd | 05:51 |
skuter_khayalan | free sudah astro kan | 05:51 |
crimsun | brian_: cat /proc/asound/modules | 05:51 |
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KhaBal | OMG | 05:51 |
KhaBal | it says insert cd | 05:51 |
brian_ | 0 snd_usb_audio | 05:51 |
brian_ | 1 snd_intel8x0 | 05:51 |
brian_ | 2 snd_emu10k1 | 05:51 |
KhaBal | its allready inserted and its still saying it! | 05:51 |
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KhaBal | ubuntus dumb | 05:51 |
crimsun | brian_: heh, you have three sound devices | 05:52 |
brian_ | yeah | 05:52 |
crimsun | brian_: which do you want to use? | 05:52 |
brian_ | the onboard | 05:52 |
brian_ | intel8x0 | 05:52 |
brian_ | it was working yesterday | 05:52 |
brian_ | actually until i restarted lol | 05:52 |
brian_ | usb_audio is my webcam | 05:52 |
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crimsun | brian_: then do this: echo "options snd-usb-audio index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base && echo "options snd-emu10k1 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base | 05:53 |
crimsun | brian_: then you can: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload | 05:53 |
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crimsun | brian_: you rebooted with the usb webcam plugged in, probably, and it grabbed the first 'slot' | 05:54 |
brian_ | OH | 05:54 |
brian_ | someone plugged it back in | 05:54 |
brian_ | lol | 05:54 |
crimsun | anyhow, after you execute those two commands, your on-board will be the primary one | 05:54 |
brian_ | do i do that with the quotes? | 05:54 |
crimsun | yes | 05:54 |
crimsun | use that exact syntax | 05:54 |
crimsun | just copy and paste | 05:55 |
brian_ | the | are seperaters right? | 05:55 |
crimsun | they're pipe symbols, and they're essential | 05:55 |
crimsun | just copy and paste the commands I gave you | 05:55 |
brian_ | k | 05:55 |
brian_ | should it work or do i reboot | 05:55 |
crimsun | you can force-reload, like I said above, or you can reboot. Your choice. | 05:56 |
brian_ | alright | 05:56 |
brian_ | yeah... i got it so far but sound stops me everytime in linux | 05:56 |
brian_ | hell i even got the fglrx to work :P | 05:56 |
brian_ | thanks crimsun | 05:56 |
crimsun | np | 05:57 |
brian_ | its still a no go | 05:57 |
brian_ | :| | 05:57 |
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crimsun | cat /proc/asound/modules | 05:57 |
brian_ | same as b4 | 05:57 |
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crimsun | brian_: then just reboot | 05:57 |
brian_ | kk | 05:57 |
brian_ | brb | 05:57 |
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J2Dope | gday. will ubuntu work on a dell inspiron 6000 laptop?? | 05:58 |
goldfish | should do | 05:58 |
goldfish | works fine on my inspiron 8600 | 05:58 |
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J2Dope | great... thanks goldfish | 05:59 |
J2Dope | no problems to report? | 05:59 |
goldfish | nope | 05:59 |
KhaBal | imlib2 isint in synaptic | 05:59 |
KhaBal | i found it a second ago | 05:59 |
KhaBal | now i try searching | 05:59 |
nalioth | i found a machine tonight that the livecd wouldnt boot on | 05:59 |
goldfish | well, i needed ndiswrapper for the internal wireless | 05:59 |
KhaBal | not there | 05:59 |
nalioth | amd 1500 | 05:59 |
CarlFK | J2Dope - what wifi nic does it have? | 05:59 |
goldfish | but that was easy enough | 05:59 |
J2Dope | wifi nic? | 06:00 |
J2Dope | how can i tell CarlFK | 06:00 |
nalioth | but it was cobbled together and the cdrom was wankered | 06:00 |
CarlFK | J2Dope - um... find the specs at dell.com, or boot a live cd and do lspci | 06:00 |
nomasteryoda|w | J2Dope, lspci | 06:00 |
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KhaBal | Please insert the disk labeled: | 06:01 |
KhaBal | Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) | 06:01 |
KhaBal | in drive /cdrom/ its allready inserted!!! | 06:01 |
nomasteryoda|w | finding specs at dell is pure shit | 06:01 |
KhaBal | omg! | 06:01 |
J2Dope | nomasteryoda im currently running windows | 06:01 |
nalioth_zZzZzZz | nomasteryoda|w: my faith in your abilitys was misplaced? (what statement?) | 06:01 |
J2Dope | i have an intel Pro/Wireless 2200BG Network Controller | 06:01 |
nomasteryoda|w | J2Dope, you can look at the current driver version using Manage under my computer | 06:01 |
J2Dope | says windows hardware | 06:01 |
goldfish | KhaBal: comment out the line containing cd , in /etc/apt/sources.list | 06:01 |
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nomasteryoda|w | J2Dope, drill down to the driver details | 06:02 |
goldfish | J2Dope: you will need to use ndiswrapper for that , or install the ipw2200 module, but it's esy enough. | 06:02 |
nomasteryoda|w | i forget where | 06:02 |
goldfish | *easy | 06:02 |
nomasteryoda|w | ubuntu has made it much easier | 06:02 |
J2Dope | its just some generic windows driver installed i think? | 06:02 |
KhaBal | goldfish: what do you mean? im in editor now | 06:02 |
goldfish | KhaBal: does the first line mention cd ? | 06:03 |
KhaBal | deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407 | 06:03 |
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goldfish | KhaBal: put a # at the start of that line | 06:03 |
goldfish | save and exit | 06:03 |
brian_ | hey again.. it is testing the pipeline ok crimsun but no sound... | 06:03 |
nomasteryoda|w | nalioth_zZzZzZz, lol... where I mentioned using breezy | 06:03 |
goldfish | then run sudo apt-get update | 06:03 |
nomasteryoda|w | and hosing it by upgrading to debian...lol | 06:03 |
nomasteryoda|w | nn nalioth_zZzZzZz | 06:04 |
brian_ | never mind | 06:04 |
KhaBal | goldfish: it worked! thanx lol | 06:04 |
brian_ | thanks for helping me out there crimsun | 06:04 |
KhaBal | goldfish: you dont know how much stress that put me in | 06:04 |
J2Dope | one more Q... do i have to format my free partion to a linux file system? or can ubuntu do that for me? | 06:04 |
crimsun | brian_: paste the output from amixer onto pastebin.ca | 06:04 |
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brian_ | i got it | 06:04 |
crimsun | k | 06:04 |
brian_ | i didnt have the volume up in the mixer *noob* | 06:04 |
crimsun | :) | 06:04 |
crimsun | Z time | 06:05 |
brian_ | my only other problem isnt important... in bzflags my keyboardoesnt except input | 06:05 |
brian_ | it just DIES | 06:05 |
nalioth_zZzZzZz | nomasteryoda|w: i'm still lost as to how you went from breezy to vanilla debian | 06:05 |
brian_ | and i have to restart to get out | 06:05 |
brian_ | lol | 06:05 |
brian_ | accept* | 06:05 |
goldfish | KhaBal: np | 06:05 |
nomasteryoda|w | nalioth_zZzZzZz, not completely debian from what i can tell | 06:05 |
nomasteryoda|w | but now i'm all theway there on this box | 06:05 |
goldfish | J2Dope: ubuntu cd does it all for you. | 06:05 |
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brian_ | thanks all | 06:06 |
nomasteryoda|w | got the netinstaller and am updating as we speak | 06:06 |
goldfish | J2Dope: what graphics card u got on it? | 06:06 |
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pepsix | where do they make balloons? | 06:06 |
J2Dope | a generic intel one | 06:06 |
goldfish | k | 06:07 |
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geesus | hi! | 06:07 |
goldfish | hello. | 06:07 |
nalioth_zZzZzZz | nomasteryoda|w: i don't even want to know....but as long as its workin | 06:07 |
geesus | :D | 06:07 |
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J2Dope | goldfish: if u can give a quick answer. do i have to format my free partition, or will ubuntu do it?? im giving ubuntu 12gigs | 06:09 |
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goldfish | J2Dope: nah, leave it free, and let the cd do it for you. | 06:09 |
ER_JAGUAR | please!! | 06:09 |
goldfish | J2Dope: http://www.antoniocheca.com/wp/content-text/ubuntu-inspiron6000.html | 06:09 |
ER_JAGUAR | i need to install bitchx | 06:09 |
J2Dope | goldfish thanks | 06:09 |
goldfish | ER_JAGUAR: sudo apt-get install bitchx | 06:09 |
ER_JAGUAR | thk | 06:09 |
goldfish | irssi > bitchx | 06:09 |
goldfish | tbh | 06:09 |
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dr_willis | 0_o | 06:10 |
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goldfish | :) | 06:11 |
dr_willis | goldfish, you KNOW it will happen | 06:12 |
KhaBal | so many errors | 06:12 |
KhaBal | Esetroot.c:21:22: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory | 06:12 |
KhaBal | Esetroot.c:22:23: X11/Xutil.h: No such file or directory | 06:12 |
KhaBal | Esetroot.c:23:23: X11/Xatom.h: No such file or directory | 06:12 |
KhaBal | Esetroot.c:24:21: X11/Xos.h: No such file or directory | 06:12 |
KhaBal | Esetroot.c:25:20: Imlib2.h: No such file or directory | 06:12 |
KhaBal | what does all this mean | 06:12 |
goldfish | wtf | 06:12 |
KhaBal | this is just a bit of error | 06:12 |
goldfish | KhaBal: what are you trying to do? | 06:12 |
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KhaBal | there like times 10 more | 06:12 |
KhaBal | im trying to get esetroot working | 06:13 |
goldfish | KhaBal: have u got Eterm? | 06:13 |
KhaBal | no | 06:13 |
KhaBal | guess thats why? | 06:13 |
goldfish | you need to use that with the Eterm terminal | 06:13 |
goldfish | yeah | 06:13 |
dr_willis | KhaBal, looks like you dont have the ImLib dev stuff installed? | 06:13 |
CarlFK | any dev's want to see an error I got installing breezy-server? http://pictures.foxshare.net/carl/temp/Jun27/1119930781/p1010001.jpg | 06:13 |
KhaBal | i just installed that | 06:13 |
dr_willis | KhaBal, what exactly are you trying to do anyway? | 06:13 |
jo | hell di instal nvidia andt som oter progies but nauw alsa wont run alsamixer | 06:13 |
jo | No mixer elems found | 06:13 |
goldfish | KhaBal: sudo apt-get install feh | 06:14 |
jo | ? | 06:14 |
goldfish | KhaBal: use that instead of esetroot | 06:14 |
goldfish | works fine for me | 06:14 |
jo | gen i fix alsa | 06:14 |
KhaBal | im root nad it says could not get lock | 06:14 |
KhaBal | var/lib/dpkg/lock | 06:14 |
virgule | synaptic is running? | 06:15 |
goldfish | have u got synaptic open? | 06:15 |
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KhaBal | yes.. :_ | 06:15 |
goldfish | :) | 06:15 |
goldfish | close it | 06:15 |
KhaBal | you guys know everything wish i did | 06:15 |
dr_willis | KhaBal, read, read, read.. then read some more. :P | 06:15 |
KhaBal | where? | 06:15 |
KhaBal | tldp.org? | 06:16 |
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virgule | CarlFK: what does boostrap.log is saying | 06:16 |
goldfish | KhaBal: just use ubuntu for a while | 06:16 |
dr_willis | Hit the bargin table at the book stores.. buy linux books.. keep them in the bathroom.. then eat a high fiber diet. | 06:16 |
dr_willis | :) | 06:16 |
jo | its ther way to look for error | 06:16 |
jo | system wide | 06:16 |
KhaBal | same error goldfish | 06:16 |
virgule | hmm yeah.. Ubuntu is brown.. fiber.. kind of a mental picture 0_o | 06:17 |
KhaBal | it just installed feh | 06:17 |
gm78 | oofnik, hey, im back, got the thermal whatever (cant remember the name put on) and the system seems to be running much faster, is that my imagination u think? | 06:17 |
KhaBal | GoldFish: Same error mate | 06:17 |
goldfish | KhaBal: yeah, now try 'fbsetbg -i' | 06:17 |
CarlFK | virgule - nothng interesting - I thought I posted it.. jsut a sec. | 06:17 |
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KhaBal | feh is a nice wallpapersetter. You won't have any problems. | 06:17 |
KhaBal | lol | 06:18 |
prc | I have a problem | 06:18 |
goldfish | KhaBal: ok, now try 'fbsetbg -f pathtofile' | 06:18 |
gm78 | prc, what kind of problem? | 06:18 |
KhaBal | i have to learn how apt-get works | 06:18 |
KhaBal | any websites to it? | 06:18 |
goldfish | man apt-get | 06:18 |
goldfish | :) | 06:19 |
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dr_willis | KhaBal, several dozen | 06:19 |
goldfish | google | 06:19 |
prc | When I load Ubuntu it plays music, but I can't get any other applications to play sounds | 06:19 |
goldfish | there's loads of info | 06:19 |
prc | e.g. SND | 06:19 |
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KhaBal | how did you know feh was in my sources.list ? | 06:19 |
goldfish | because | 06:20 |
goldfish | it's in the ubuntu repos | 06:20 |
goldfish | and i searched myself | 06:20 |
KhaBal | hmm i see | 06:20 |
goldfish | apt-cache search filename | 06:20 |
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goldfish | searches the repos for a package | 06:20 |
KhaBal | so to install thing you add them in sources.list then apt-get install <name of file> | 06:20 |
tamu | hi.. | 06:20 |
goldfish | KhaBal: no | 06:20 |
goldfish | KhaBal: just apt-get | 06:21 |
goldfish | tamu: hello | 06:21 |
tamu | helloo | 06:21 |
goldfish | KhaBal: your current sources.list should be fine. | 06:21 |
WMCoolmon | hey, anyone know anything about getting cedega working on Hoary64? | 06:21 |
CarlFK | virgule - http://pictures.foxshare.net/carl/temp/Jun27/1119930781/bootstrap.log | 06:22 |
WMCoolmon | i've heard it's possible to do it via 32-bit chroot and natively and am wondering which to try to get working first | 06:22 |
KhaBal | goldfish: what if i apt-get install mozilla? | 06:22 |
goldfish | KhaBal: mozilla firefox? | 06:22 |
KhaBal | i just write apt-get install mozilla | 06:22 |
KhaBal | will apt-get install anything? | 06:22 |
goldfish | yes | 06:23 |
goldfish | the mozilla broswer | 06:23 |
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goldfish | *browser | 06:23 |
dr_willis | well anything thtas in the repositories. :P | 06:23 |
prc | Why might I be having problems getting programs like SND to play sounds? | 06:23 |
KhaBal | so whats the point of synaptic? | 06:23 |
goldfish | KhaBal: it's a gui frontend to apt-get | 06:23 |
goldfish | more n00b friendly apparantly | 06:23 |
dr_willis | whats the point to anything. :P | 06:23 |
KhaBal | but in order to install you have to add the url and deb blah blah | 06:23 |
goldfish | what? | 06:24 |
KhaBal | you have to go resporities and add it in | 06:24 |
goldfish | you add the repositories once | 06:24 |
KhaBal | then look for it and install | 06:24 |
goldfish | thats it | 06:24 |
KhaBal | what if the program you want to apt-get isint there? | 06:24 |
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goldfish | build it from source or wait until a package is made | 06:24 |
KhaBal | hmm i see | 06:25 |
prc | does anyone have any advice for playing sounds? | 06:25 |
kornelius | hi all | 06:25 |
virgule | CarlFK: dependencies problems is all I see in there.. | 06:25 |
KhaBal | goldfish: so to add one you have to deb <url> and src <url> I think i saw this yesterday | 06:25 |
kornelius | any one running ubuntu on a sony t series laptop? | 06:25 |
CarlFK | virgule - should I bugzilla it? | 06:25 |
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goldfish | prc: is there a setting somewhere to choose output device? might be something to do with that | 06:26 |
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goldfish | KhaBal: yeah | 06:26 |
goldfish | !repos | 06:26 |
ubotu | I haven't a clue, goldfish | 06:26 |
goldfish | !repositorie | 06:26 |
ubotu | goldfish: I give up, what is it? | 06:26 |
goldfish | !repositories | 06:26 |
ubotu | [repositories] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto | 06:26 |
virgule | CarlFX: search first.. I am sure they know its still misfunctionning ;) | 06:26 |
goldfish | KhaBal: that link shows you | 06:26 |
KhaBal | goldfish: bash:~$ echo deb http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/ubuntu/debs ./ | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list | 06:27 |
KhaBal | does that edit it? | 06:27 |
goldfish | yes | 06:27 |
virgule | i'd search around libc6 | 06:27 |
CarlFK | virgule - any idea what to search for? | 06:27 |
KhaBal | hmm i see brb | 06:27 |
virgule | libc6_2.3.5-ubuntu7 | 06:27 |
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virgule | *opps *libc6_2.3.5-1ubuntu7 | 06:27 |
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GTswagger | I'm trying to get skype working... when people talk to me there is zero lag, but when I talk to them there is a lag that gets progressively worse like clockwork. Any ideas? Setup: kernel 2.6.11 ... kernel ALSA w/ OSS emulation ... Audigy MP3+ (emu10k1) ... wireless B (atmel_usb) to cable modem with 1.5 mbit d/l and 256 kbit u/l | 06:28 |
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pepsix | where do they make ballons | 06:28 |
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goldfish | South Korea. | 06:28 |
CarlFK | GTswagger - use a standard VoIP phone, like sjPhone from sjlabs.com | 06:28 |
IceDC571 | what audio player does everyone use in here? | 06:29 |
goldfish | beep-media-player | 06:29 |
CarlFK | aplay ! | 06:29 |
goldfish | cplay! | 06:29 |
tristanmike | music player | 06:29 |
goldfish | mp3blaster | 06:29 |
prc | I'm trying to play .aiff files from SND, but nothing comes out | 06:29 |
GTswagger | CarlFM -- I doubt that will work for what I want... I want Skype b/c I'm doing a podcast and it's so EASY to record a skype conference into a podcast | 06:29 |
goldfish | prc: you might need codecs for that.... | 06:29 |
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KhaBal | wheever i minimize something in gnome the program just dissapears instead of being placed in my task bar whats going on here? | 06:30 |
goldfish | prc: or maybe snd doesnt support .aiff files. | 06:30 |
prc | goldfish: what is codecs? | 06:30 |
CarlFK | GTswagger - have you looked at any others? I found Skype hard to work with - they are doning something funky | 06:30 |
prc | It definately is supposed to support them | 06:31 |
goldfish | hmmmm | 06:31 |
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GTswagger | CarlFK -- No, but I really don't want to if I don't have to since everybody involved is already setup on skype | 06:31 |
byen | yup ive been having issues with skype too | 06:31 |
jino | hi..how to configure a mail server..? | 06:32 |
CarlFK | GTswagger - so popular is more important than quality ;) | 06:32 |
CarlFK | GTswagger - but I understand that getting everyone else to install something new can be a pain | 06:33 |
GTswagger | CarlFK - It's almost certainly not Skype... why would you have ONE WAY Lag... it's related to my system | 06:33 |
IceDC571 | i wish skype was compiled with gtk | 06:34 |
CarlFK | GTswagger - it isn't an open source app, so only the shaddow knows | 06:34 |
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GTswagger | A friend suggested it could be my digitizer ... but hell if I know how to find out | 06:34 |
Strife | so what's with all the backports stuff being down or really slow? | 06:34 |
jino | CarlFK, how to configure a mail server | 06:34 |
Octane | is it safe to use packages built for debian, not specifically for ubuntu | 06:34 |
GTswagger | CarlFK --More specifically, it's most certainly related to how my system is processing sound | 06:34 |
Strife | Octane: depends... | 06:35 |
Strife | Octane: if you mean from the debian archives... I wouldn't necessarily recommend it | 06:35 |
IceDC571 | Octane: as long as its not important packages | 06:35 |
CarlFK | GTswagger - personaly, i doubt it. I can't imagine anything other than skype buffering | 06:35 |
Strife | Octane: but if you mean you're downloading a .deb file from some software's web site, then probably it's ok | 06:35 |
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Octane | Strife, IceDC571: something like amarok for example | 06:35 |
Strife | that would be fine | 06:36 |
IceDC571 | Octane: amarok is okay, its a deb package at least.. you can remove it if it causes problems | 06:36 |
Octane | rock on thanks | 06:36 |
goldfish | you can get it from ubuntu repos | 06:36 |
IceDC571 | just make sure you have the right dependencies | 06:36 |
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nilsl | Some time, I try to do certain things in the terminal, but I have to gain root acess it say. Oh well, I try login with root, but it say that I have to be on lowest level: sh, I go to sh, but the same message appaer. | 06:37 |
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IceDC571 | nilsl: thats a little confusing | 06:38 |
nilsl | IceDC571: What is confusing? | 06:38 |
IceDC571 | nilsl: by lowest level, do you mean runlevel? | 06:38 |
nilsl | I get acces denied when I try some things, like; /dev/kmem | 06:39 |
nilsl | Etc. | 06:39 |
IceDC571 | have you tried the sudo command? | 06:40 |
Strife | uh | 06:40 |
nilsl | So then I try login as root, and just go to: sh | 06:40 |
nilsl | Uh, sudo. | 06:40 |
Strife | what the hell are you trying to do/ | 06:40 |
Strife | ? | 06:40 |
IceDC571 | lol Strife | 06:40 |
nilsl | Strife: Uh, login with root. | 06:40 |
Strife | oh | 06:41 |
Strife | well | 06:41 |
Strife | you need a root password first | 06:41 |
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IceDC571 | nilsl: by default root doesn't have a password set | 06:41 |
SpecialBuddy | I have no sound with gaim | 06:41 |
nilsl | Oh. | 06:41 |
evader | Hi. I switched to Breezy to give it ago - I'm not prepared to deal with the breaks and nvidia problems I've had so can I just swithch my sources back to Hoary and downgrade? | 06:41 |
evader | Will it work OK? | 06:42 |
IceDC571 | sudo should work for most tasks.. but if you really want you can use super user | 06:42 |
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Strife | evader: if you reinstall... yes | 06:42 |
nilsl | Super user == sudo, right? | 06:42 |
IceDC571 | not quite | 06:42 |
SpecialBuddy | does anyone have problems with gaim not having sound | 06:42 |
metzen | nilsl: sudo = "super user do" | 06:42 |
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nilsl | Hm, I have to read some manual or something. | 06:42 |
nilsl | :-) | 06:42 |
hyphenated | SpecialBuddy: of course, it happens all the time. it's usually because something's hijacked the sound device so that only one thing can use it | 06:42 |
evader | Strife: What do you mean? I have to reinstall from scratch? Can I just switch this current Breezy system to Hoary and let apt downgrade it? | 06:43 |
nilsl | metzen: Right, I read some like that before. | 06:43 |
theNeonGod | anyone here a physics major or highly knowlegable in the subject? i need some homework help :-/ | 06:43 |
calc | sudo can do tasks as any user you are authorized to do so | 06:43 |
calc | not just super user | 06:43 |
SpecialBuddy | something hijacked the sound device? | 06:43 |
calc | probably means switch user do | 06:44 |
oofnik | does anyone know of a good video edit/capture program for linux/gtk? | 06:44 |
CarlFK | oofnik - yeah.. I think it is called lives | 06:44 |
IceDC571 | nilsl: type sudo passwd root in the terminal to set the root password for su | 06:44 |
nilsl | Oh, this seem to work. :-) | 06:44 |
calc | though whatever it means its probably the same as plain "su" | 06:44 |
hyphenated | SpecialBuddy: some program has taken exclusive access to sound output. that means other programs can't access it | 06:44 |
norris | anyone here running the amd64 ubunu? | 06:44 |
calc | norris: yes | 06:44 |
IceDC571 | wow that has to be the most asked question in this channel :) | 06:44 |
norris | lol, really? | 06:44 |
evader | Hi. Can someone please tell me if switching my apt sources to Hoary will downgrade safely from Breezy. I want to switch back. | 06:44 |
nilsl | IceDC571: Thx. | 06:45 |
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SpecialBuddy | so how do I take care of that problem | 06:45 |
CarlFK | oofnik - http://www.xs4all.nl/~salsaman/lives/ | 06:45 |
wessuck | How do i install yahoo mess | 06:45 |
oofnik | thanks CarlFK i'll take al ook | 06:45 |
SpecialBuddy | go to yahoo's site | 06:46 |
wessuck | and | 06:46 |
IceDC571 | wessuck: download the deb file | 06:46 |
evader | Hi. Can someone please tell me if switching my sources to Hoary will downgrade safely from Breezy. I want to switch back. | 06:46 |
hyphenated | SpecialBuddy: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q22 | 06:46 |
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goldfish | evader: im not sure, but i dont think its as simple as that. | 06:46 |
SpecialBuddy | thanks | 06:46 |
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CarlFK | evader - from what I hear, no. | 06:46 |
norris | ii left debian for x86_64 fedora when i got my amd64, i have had 0 probelms getting the nvidia driver to work, and am able to run all my gfraphic accelerted games, doom3 unreal tournamanet, ut 2003, 2004, nwn , etc. Am I gonna have as much success with ubuntu amd64? | 06:46 |
evader | CarlFK: So it's a matter of a reinstall from scratch? | 06:47 |
evader | goldfish: ^ | 06:47 |
CarlFK | evader - based to just reinstall hoaray (yes, wack all your previous setup) | 06:47 |
CarlFK | yup. | 06:47 |
goldfish | evader: yep | 06:47 |
goldfish | im not 100% sure though | 06:47 |
evader | Anyone know what happens if I switch the sources back to Hoary from Breezy | 06:48 |
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IceDC571 | norris: it depends, personally.. i think you should do a dual boot with ubuntu and fedora.. whichever works for you the best.. you keep | 06:48 |
goldfish | things will break i'd imagine | 06:48 |
evader | heh | 06:48 |
evader | i'll give it a go. | 06:48 |
goldfish | :) | 06:49 |
lynx | anyone here knows how can i play .avi files? what packages do i have to install? | 06:49 |
IceDC571 | i cant believe you're going to try downgrading.. why not start clean again? | 06:49 |
SpecialBuddy | I just hate that I can't play games | 06:49 |
sproingie | you have to do some jiggery pokery with pinning for downgrade to work | 06:49 |
norris | are 32 bit games like doom3 with 64 bit nvidia drivers, and 64 bit ubuntu possible without a chroot IceDC571? | 06:49 |
IceDC571 | i believe if you downgrade, even if you are successful, you'll have a bunch of junk left over | 06:50 |
IceDC571 | norris: sorry im not that smart, im still somewhat new to linux | 06:50 |
goldfish | lynx: w32codecs | 06:50 |
goldfish | lynx: i think | 06:50 |
norris | are 32 bit games like doom3 with 64 bit nvidia drivers, and 64 bit ubuntu possible without a chroot calc? | 06:50 |
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lynx | hm | 06:51 |
Spec | heya - greetings from the NECC conference, where we're pushing ubuntu in education (+ltsp) | 06:51 |
CarlFK | Spec - neat | 06:51 |
Spec | yeah, fun stuff tomorrow :) | 06:51 |
sproingie | norris: no, you pretty much need a chroot | 06:52 |
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sproingie | norris: actualy, doom3 might work without it | 06:52 |
sproingie | norris: UT has a native 64bit port. anything you play with cedega is going to need a 32bit chroot of course | 06:53 |
norris | it's frustrastrating really, i have always used debian based distros, but fedora x86_64 just works, want to switch to ubuntu, but i the ease of game setup is keeping me from it. fedora doesn't suck enought lol | 06:53 |
SpecialBuddy | so you are saying that fedora is good for games | 06:53 |
sproingie | ubuntu for x86_64 works pretty well too. it's the 32 bit stuff that's kind of a pain | 06:53 |
norris | i don't use wine, all my games, like nwn, ut, ut2003, 2004, doom3 , armyops, rtcw, etc, are native linux ports | 06:54 |
sproingie | blame apt. it can't handle multiple architectures at once | 06:54 |
norris | fedora on x86_64 rocks for games | 06:54 |
norris | i can play them all | 06:54 |
SpecialBuddy | even old ones | 06:54 |
norris | i think it's more of a multiarch issue | 06:54 |
goldfish | i'd rather use windows than fedora | 06:54 |
norris | i can still p;ay soldier of forturne and rune, on x86_64 fedora | 06:55 |
sproingie | i'd rather use windows than use gnome's file selector, that's for sure | 06:55 |
Jimbob | sproingie: Why? | 06:56 |
norris | uplink, and sid meirs alpha centauri and uplink, hereos of might and magic,and railroad tycoon still run too | 06:56 |
SpecialBuddy | maybe I should dual partition with fedora because I can't get that damn wine program to work | 06:56 |
sproingie | Jimbob: it drives me nuts. the autocomplete behavior is by far the worst | 06:56 |
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Jimbob | sproingie: Why is it the worst | 06:56 |
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norris | the thing that sucks most about fedora though is lack of being able to upgrade between verisions. clean install are neede to eliminate all problems. My web servers' upgrade from woody to sarge though, was the best though! | 06:58 |
sproingie | Jimbob: it autocompletes while i'm still typing. so if i type "/usr", it ends up as "/usrsr" | 06:58 |
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Jimbob | sproingie: What version of GTK+ are you using? | 06:59 |
tkiesel | Hiya everyone. | 06:59 |
LexiCon[gsr-dj] | hey...I've got a question :\...I set up ubuntu on a dual-boot with winxp pro, and everything went fine, but when I try to login at the ubuntu splash screen, all I get is a tan screen, a login sound clip, and my cursor...then my hd/cpu fans spin up, and nothing else happens | 06:59 |
LexiCon[gsr-dj] | am I missing something? | 06:59 |
sproingie | Jimbob: beats me. the one that installed with firefox, the only app where i'm unfortunate enough to suffer that behavior | 06:59 |
LexiCon[gsr-dj] | :\ | 06:59 |
SpecialBuddy | how can I clean install wine because I think there are some problems everytime I try installing it | 07:00 |
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yaaar | erv identify maryjane | 07:00 |
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skel_ | 1 quick question | 07:00 |
skel_ | limwire wont miziimize to tray | 07:00 |
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Eman | hi all | 07:00 |
skel_ | it just closes i have the setting to go to tray but it does nto | 07:00 |
SpecialBuddy | I tried so many times to dual boot xp and ubuntu and I couldn't get it to work | 07:01 |
goldfish | how come?~ | 07:01 |
Jimbob | sproingie: Try "dpkg -s libgtk2.0-0", and tell me what the version is | 07:01 |
goldfish | it's pretty easy | 07:01 |
dbernar1 | YES! I have finally found the ultimate recursive solution for ruling the world!!! | 07:01 |
yaaar | so, how can i tell real quick if i'm running both processors of this smp box? | 07:01 |
yaaar | (i'm in a livecd) | 07:01 |
HrdwrBoB | you aren't | 07:01 |
SpecialBuddy | it's not that easy | 07:01 |
HrdwrBoB | yes it is | 07:02 |
dbernar1 | fairly. | 07:02 |
HrdwrBoB | the trick is to install windows first | 07:02 |
dbernar1 | SpecialBuddy: one hd? | 07:02 |
Eman | sorry, can anyone tell if there is a command to erase 1 line of text? | 07:02 |
SpecialBuddy | not when you have an IBM thinkpad that keeps installing some secret partition everytime you install xp | 07:02 |
HrdwrBoB | Eman: in what? | 07:02 |
dbernar1 | eman in what? dd in vi | 07:02 |
tkiesel | LexiCon[gsr-dj] : How long will it sit there doing nothing? | 07:02 |
Eman | i tried that on bash | 07:02 |
SpecialBuddy | I do have one hd | 07:02 |
LexiCon[gsr-dj] | until I do a hard reboot :\ | 07:02 |
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dbernar1 | SpecialBuddy: did you install windows first? | 07:03 |
Eman | i didt grep $1 file.txt|dd but didnt worked | 07:03 |
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tkiesel | LexiCon[gsr-dj] : Like HrdwrBoB said, you want to install Windows first. It won't play nice with letting Linux boot too. | 07:03 |
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SpecialBuddy | I have tried it both ways | 07:03 |
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goliat | hello there | 07:03 |
dr_willis | seceret? you mean that 8mb partition windows likes to make? | 07:03 |
dbernar1 | Eman: dd in vi | 07:03 |
SpecialBuddy | windows takes over | 07:03 |
LexiCon[gsr-dj] | I had windows installed first | 07:03 |
dbernar1 | not in grep like that. | 07:03 |
tkiesel | LexiCon[gsr-dj] : Hrrrm. Where'd you get yoru install CD/DVD? | 07:03 |
jkf | hello everybody | 07:03 |
Octane | can someone please let mek now how do i stop (or reroute) my firwall messages away from my system logs | 07:03 |
dbernar1 | $1 is a variable placeholder | 07:03 |
SpecialBuddy | no | 07:03 |
SpecialBuddy | 3.2 gb partition | 07:03 |
SpecialBuddy | everytime | 07:03 |
Eman | dbernar1 but can i use that command en a bash program too? | 07:03 |
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Eman | o ic | 07:04 |
dr_willis | Hmm.... | 07:04 |
dbernar1 | SpecialBuddy: you just install windows, then ubuntu, and it should work, works here. | 07:04 |
LexiCon[gsr-dj] | I installed windows, shrank the partition, installed ubuntu on the open partition :X...I got the image from the clemson university linux site | 07:04 |
SpecialBuddy | no | 07:04 |
sproingie | Jimbob: tells me that it's not installed. | 07:04 |
SpecialBuddy | doesn't work | 07:04 |
dbernar1 | just install the grub to the mbr, tho | 07:04 |
SpecialBuddy | no | 07:04 |
Octane | ya | 07:04 |
dbernar1 | when it asks you whether to do it, say yes. | 07:04 |
Octane | install to mbr | 07:04 |
Octane | took me 5 tries to understand | 07:04 |
dbernar1 | the main boot record | 07:05 |
SpecialBuddy | mbr is taken over and everytime I try that it screws it up | 07:05 |
Jimbob | sproingie: What version of ubuntu? | 07:05 |
sproingie | Jimbob: can't even find it with dpkg -l. i doubt firefox is statically linked | 07:05 |
dbernar1 | Eman: what exactly are you trying to do? | 07:05 |
imaek | Does anyone know a terminal text editor that has syntax highlighting? | 07:05 |
goldfish | install windows, leave empty space, let ubuntu partition empty space, and voila. | 07:05 |
tkiesel | LexiCon[gsr-dj] : Did you check the md5 sum to make sure that your download was error free? | 07:05 |
jkf | how to install the fcitx? | 07:05 |
SpecialBuddy | no | 07:05 |
goldfish | imaek: vim | 07:05 |
SpecialBuddy | doesn't work that easy | 07:05 |
SpecialBuddy | I'm telling you | 07:05 |
imaek | ok | 07:05 |
jkf | I had install it, but can't use it | 07:05 |
goldfish | SpecialBuddy: worked that way for me. | 07:05 |
LexiCon[gsr-dj] | tkiesel: how do I do that? | 07:05 |
SpecialBuddy | I'm sure it did but there is something about this laptop that screws it up | 07:06 |
goldfish | oh right | 07:06 |
SpecialBuddy | I install ubuntu and when it restarts it doesn't finish the install and goes to xp | 07:06 |
tkiesel | LexiCon[gsr-dj] : Also, check that the copy you burn is clean too. I had to go down to 2x on my burner to get real error-free burning in Windows XP. | 07:06 |
sproingie | Jimbob: hoary | 07:06 |
dbernar1 | imaek once in vi/vim the command to turn it on is :syn on | 07:06 |
Jimbob | sproingie: Strange | 07:06 |
dbernar1 | SpecialBuddy: what laptop? | 07:07 |
tkiesel | LexiCon[gsr-dj] : Google for md5sum. Good windows md5 program. :) | 07:07 |
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imaek | Thanks, dbernar1. | 07:07 |
SpecialBuddy | IBM thinkpad | 07:07 |
jkf | Any one help me | 07:07 |
sproingie | Jimbob: actually, it seems to have stopped doing that. i know it used to | 07:07 |
SpecialBuddy | it's weird | 07:07 |
SpecialBuddy | it's a 20 gb hard drive | 07:07 |
SpecialBuddy | if I install xp then it will say 16 gb harddrive | 07:07 |
tkiesel | LexiCon[gsr-dj] : Your download is likely good. But I'd maybe try doing a slow burn of the install disc. I had issues with install until I did a disc that I'd burned slower. | 07:07 |
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Eman | dbernar1 am trying to capture a variable, then find that text in a txt file, then erase that line of text | 07:07 |
Eman | guess i should lear something like awk | 07:08 |
dbernar1 | a nice task | 07:08 |
dbernar1 | I am trying sdomething, | 07:08 |
sproingie | Jimbob: well, problem 1 of 2334525346 with that file selector solved | 07:08 |
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Jimbob | sproingie: Ok, what are the other problems? | 07:08 |
dbernar1 | /dev/hda7 97429708 29114624 63365864 32% /mnt/l | 07:08 |
dbernar1 | /dev/hda9 97429708 29114624 63365864 32% /mnt/l | 07:08 |
dbernar1 | how is that even possible? | 07:09 |
sproingie | Jimbob: just lack of features, like detail and thumbnail view. both of which i've had many occasions to use | 07:09 |
dbernar1 | both on same dir? | 07:09 |
CarlFK | LexiCon[gsr-dj] - get http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ | 07:09 |
CarlFK | for md5sum.exe | 07:09 |
CarlFK | and a pile of other goodies | 07:09 |
jasmuz | does anyone now how to eliminate a zombie process?...xmms went zombie on me and its hogging the audio | 07:09 |
Jimbob | What does "detail" offer above the existing view | 07:09 |
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SpecialBuddy | I really wish it did work because I can't get wine to work either | 07:10 |
goldfish | jasmuz: can't kill -9 it/ | 07:10 |
goldfish | ? | 07:10 |
Jimbob | (a thumbnail is likely do-able) | 07:10 |
jasmuz | goldfish: nope | 07:10 |
Eman | jazmus if u know the name of the process i guess kill will dow it | 07:10 |
cyphase | RPM = Ridiculously Primitive Method/Management | 07:10 |
Eman | not sute thought | 07:10 |
Amaranth | cyphase: Do you understand all the internals of the rpm system? | 07:10 |
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Amaranth | cyphase: And yum repositories? | 07:11 |
cyphase | Amaranth, no, and i wasn't being serious | 07:11 |
Eman | lol | 07:11 |
sproingie | i'm SO glad konversation keeps a persistent history, considering how often it crashes | 07:11 |
jasmuz | Guys good night | 07:11 |
cyphase | i just noticed it could syand for it, so.. | 07:11 |
cyphase | lol | 07:11 |
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Eman | later jasmuz | 07:11 |
lcarlos | ANYONE KNOW HOW TO CONFIGURE TE PORTD FOR AMULE??? | 07:11 |
lcarlos | ANYONE KNOW HOW TO CONFIGURE TE PORTS FOR AMULE??? | 07:11 |
goldfish | no | 07:12 |
sproingie | someone kick him? | 07:12 |
Jimbob | OBVIOUSLY NOT | 07:12 |
jkf | My notebook is compaq presario 2009AP, and I installed the ubuntu I can't going to the windows. help | 07:12 |
Jimbob | :-) | 07:12 |
imaek | lcarlos you mean like, router stuff/ | 07:12 |
Amaranth | lcarlos: Please don't yell. If someone knows they will answer. | 07:12 |
imaek | Or in aMule? | 07:12 |
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dbernar1 | lcarlos: try gtk-gnutella | 07:12 |
tkiesel | lcarlos: Maybe when my ears unclench. | 07:12 |
lcarlos | sorry | 07:12 |
sobersabre | is it possible to create kernel package with make-kpkg which will be named "linux-image" instead of "kernel-image" ? | 07:12 |
dr_willis | lcarlos, a check of the amule homepage may tell you wht ports you need forwareded.. but I dident have to mess with the ports on my system | 07:12 |
dbernar1 | Eman: ya, maybe some scri[pting thing... | 07:12 |
kwilcox_afk | During the boot process, when it gets to Loading ACPI Modules... it goes to a blank screen and never does anything... any suggestions? Tried installing with noacpi, nolacpi, and apci=off | 07:13 |
tkiesel | lcarlos: ;) What is the port configuring you need to figure out? I don't use amule, but if it's a basic question, I'm your man. | 07:13 |
sproingie | Jimbob: i've used the detail view to sort by owner in a directory where people drop all kinds of stuff. i probably don't use it that often. thumbnail view i do all the time, since i'm always slinging pictures around | 07:13 |
sobersabre | ( some modules want kernel pack. to be called that way ) | 07:13 |
Eman | jejeje was thinking the same | 07:13 |
dbernar1 | Eman: I can prolly figure out how to erase the last line in a file, tho. | 07:13 |
dr_willis | theres #aMule also :P | 07:13 |
Eman | mmm any help is well recived xD | 07:13 |
lcarlos | the problem is that i have lowID and i wanna hava HiID | 07:13 |
tkiesel | lcarlos: If you're behind a router/firewall, you'll need to set it up to forward the appropriate ports to yoru computer. If you're not, then it shoudl work with no extra config from you. | 07:13 |
Jimbob | sobersabre: make-kpkg --stem="linux" ... | 07:13 |
Eman | my friend say its really easy, but he wont tell me | 07:14 |
sproingie | Jimbob: with detail view in windows i can pick arbitrary metadata. too bad it's just about impossible to make explorer remember which columns I want in explorer view | 07:14 |
Eman | if i find out ill tell ya | 07:14 |
dbernar1 | eman, unix course? | 07:14 |
lcarlos | but i don't have a firewall | 07:14 |
Eman | mmm linux =) | 07:14 |
dbernar1 | LInux course? | 07:14 |
kwilcox_afk | Any suggestions would be great... During the boot process, when it gets to Loading ACPI Modules... it goes to a blank screen and never does anything... any suggestions? Tried installing with noacpi, nolacpi, and apci=off. | 07:15 |
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lcarlos | and i have lowID and the downloads are too slow | 07:15 |
tkiesel | lcarlos, Then you shouldn't require any messing with ports for Amule to work. | 07:15 |
sproingie | something where i can type "ls" and have it populate the terminal with clickable icons | 07:15 |
Jimbob | CLIM? | 07:15 |
Eman | yes, am with a buch of friends trying to learn the miracle of linux, using ubuntu to practice | 07:15 |
lcarlos | yes but i dont know haw to do that | 07:15 |
sproingie | Jimbob: common lisp interface manager | 07:16 |
tkiesel | lcarlos: A lot of p2p systems rank you based on how much sharing you do. The more files you share, the better your downloads. | 07:16 |
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lcarlos | whats si gtk-gnutella??? | 07:16 |
lcarlos | maybe let my try | 07:16 |
dbernar1 | sudo aptitude install gtk-gnutella | 07:16 |
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Eman | lol mexican public tv sucks | 07:17 |
Eman | jaja | 07:17 |
tkiesel | lcarlos: gnutella is another p2p app, I think. | 07:17 |
Eman | miss u fox ='( | 07:17 |
dbernar1 | ha | 07:17 |
dr_willis | theres a ubuntu p2p wiki | 07:17 |
dbernar1 | thats prolly ythe worst channel invented(except for some local/.. | 07:17 |
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Eman | jajaja | 07:18 |
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Eman | u cant live without fox its a tc virus | 07:18 |
Eman | errr tv+ | 07:18 |
Eman | o well, thx for all the help, bed time, maybe my friend light my path,if so ill tell u how to resolve the probledbernar1m | 07:19 |
Eman | well night | 07:19 |
Eman | later | 07:19 |
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cary | whois cary | 07:21 |
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oofnik | hey everyone i'm trying to compile an application that needs libc6 2.3.2.ds1-21 but ubuntu only has 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu any suggestions? | 07:22 |
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oofnik | seems a lot of packages depend on this new libc6.. | 07:22 |
sproingie | oofnik: are you running hoary or breezy? | 07:24 |
oofnik | hoary | 07:24 |
oofnik | all repo's are enabled | 07:24 |
sproingie | what package is depending on it? | 07:24 |
Amaranth | oofnik is getting something from sarge or marillat stable | 07:25 |
lcarlos | hay thanks the genutella works good | 07:25 |
dbernar1 | sure does | 07:25 |
oofnik | i haven't tried.. where can i find those repo's? | 07:25 |
oofnik | i read on the forums though that that's not such a good idea.. | 07:25 |
dbernar1 | paste your sources.list somewhere | 07:26 |
Amaranth | oofnik: I'm not telling you to, I'm saying that's what you're doing. | 07:26 |
oofnik | oh.. haha nevermind then | 07:26 |
oofnik | i don't think i'm doing that though.. | 07:26 |
Amaranth | You must be. | 07:26 |
oofnik | i'm trying to install libfaac0 | 07:26 |
Amaranth | It's either from sarge, marillat, or unstable | 07:26 |
oofnik | and it wants 2.3.2.ds1-21 | 07:26 |
Amaranth | yeah, libfaac0 is marillat | 07:26 |
oofnik | oh alright | 07:26 |
Amaranth | you can't build from source? | 07:27 |
dbernar1 | or paste your sources. | 07:27 |
Amaranth | i mean from a source package | 07:27 |
oofnik | i guess i could find source, but i want it because a bajillion things depend on it | 07:27 |
oofnik | ultimately i'm trying to install gtranscode | 07:27 |
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Amaranth | no, i mean compile from the marillat source package | 07:28 |
oofnik | which wants libavcodeccvs, which wants libfaac0, which wants the new libc6 | 07:28 |
oofnik | oh.. how can i do that? | 07:28 |
sobersabre | Jimbob, tell me so i shall: make-kpkg --stem=linux --revision=blabla kernel_image ? | 07:28 |
imaek | Is there a command to save, but not exit, in VIM? | 07:28 |
Amaranth | maybe you shouldn't be doing this :P | 07:28 |
Amaranth | imaek: :s | 07:28 |
Amaranth | err, :w | 07:28 |
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imaek | Thank you, Amaranth. | 07:29 |
imaek | :) | 07:29 |
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oofnik | haha, yeah i'm a newbie.. :-/ | 07:29 |
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oofnik | i was looking at this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44615&highlight=libc6+2.3.2.ds1-21 and it scared me a little | 07:29 |
Jimbob | sobersabre: Yeah | 07:29 |
Jimbob | sobersabre: "revision" would be something like "1" or "2" | 07:29 |
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tkiesel | Anyone had good/bad/neutral experiences with apt-build? | 07:30 |
sobersabre | Jimbob, don't worry about it. i was worried about the name of the target. | 07:30 |
Jimbob | make-kpkg --targets lists the available targets | 07:30 |
oofnik | Amaranth do you think i can force the package to get by with -20ubuntu13 version of libc6? | 07:30 |
sobersabre | actually i got into make-kpkg script and started adding linux_image in misc places... | 07:31 |
Amaranth | oofnik: no | 07:31 |
sobersabre | but you saved me from debugging. | 07:31 |
lcarlos | well see you | 07:31 |
oofnik | is there some new feature in the new release that is absolutely necessary or something? | 07:31 |
lcarlos | thansk for the help | 07:31 |
lcarlos | genutella | 07:31 |
oofnik | sorry for being a bit lost when it comes to this stuff | 07:31 |
sobersabre | why is this util not ported to ubuntu on ubuntu ? | 07:31 |
lcarlos | works good | 07:31 |
Amaranth | oofnik: something built for a newer version of libc6 won't work on an older libc6 | 07:31 |
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Amaranth | generally | 07:31 |
Amaranth | oofnik: Because it's a patent minefield? | 07:31 |
lcarlos | tkiesel thanks | 07:31 |
blackfaith | guys i need help with mplayer | 07:31 |
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tkiesel | lcarlos: No problem. :) | 07:32 |
oofnik | hah | 07:32 |
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oofnik | so should i try to just compile from source package? | 07:32 |
blackfaith | i know that if i installed the real player plugins it can runs it, but its now right now and also its not running MP3 formats ? | 07:32 |
blackfaith | any idea | 07:32 |
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mae | Hi, with anjuta I am getting "config.status: error: cannot find input file: test.in" when i try to do a make autogen... what package do i need to install? (I already installed all the reccomended and suggest packages) | 07:32 |
Amaranth | oofnik: That will almost certainly work. sudo apt-get -b source libfaac0 | 07:32 |
plefno | anyone who can help a newbie with a ubuntu boot-up problem? | 07:32 |
oofnik | okay i will try that, thank you | 07:33 |
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bimberi | plefno: ask away - hopefully someone can help | 07:34 |
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plefno | ok, cool. I just installed Ubuntu 5.04 from the installation cd and the installation seemed to work fine, but when i boot up and sign in, the system immediately freezes | 07:35 |
iphitus | where does ubuntu store the lists of drivers to load on boot? I have a driver for my wireless card that ubuntu selected, however ndiswrapper works substantially better. Where can I stop it loading the first wireless driver? | 07:35 |
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plefno | the desktop doesn't load or anything. it just freezes up immediately after i enter my username and password | 07:36 |
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oofnik | Amaranth - no good, i have some 25 unmet dependancies of header files... meh] | 07:36 |
Amaranth | oofnik: sudo apt-get build-dep libfaac0 | 07:36 |
oofnik | there are several applications i have tried to install which depend on the new libc6, maybe whoever is in charge of that package should look into updating? | 07:36 |
bimberi | plefno: anything on the screen at all? | 07:37 |
Amaranth | oofnik: It's not going to happen in hoary. | 07:37 |
plefno | nope, it's just the default brownish background | 07:37 |
Amaranth | oofnik: 1) hoary is stable and 2) libc6 changes shouldn't be done lightly | 07:37 |
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iphitus | how can I stop ubuntu from loading acx100 ? | 07:37 |
bimberi | plefno: does <ctrl><alt>F2 do anything? | 07:38 |
plefno | i tried kubuntu also, with a similar problem | 07:38 |
oofnik | argh, there must be an easier way than to just build all these dependancies from source | 07:38 |
plefno | nope, the system is totally frozen up | 07:38 |
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oofnik | would you happen to know if any difference from the hoary version of libc6 to this new one that everything wants? | 07:38 |
Choubaka | iphitus: add it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist or something | 07:38 |
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plefno | any ideas? | 07:40 |
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oofnik | Amaranth someone on the forums installed the breezy libc6 files on hoary, is this potential for disaster? | 07:40 |
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bimberi | lol | 07:41 |
oofnik | hahah i take that as a hell yes | 07:41 |
oofnik | well shoot, i keep going deeper and deeper in the dependancy tree to no avail.. i dont want to give up gtranscode :( | 07:42 |
bimberi | plefno, I think you should try booting into "recovery mode" and looking through the log files (in /var/log). I'm trying to see which one(s) might have anthing interesting | 07:42 |
sobersabre | plefno, tell me something: is this a full and new install of ubuntu on your machine ? | 07:42 |
plefno | yeah, it's a brand new installation | 07:43 |
sobersabre | plefno, and is it possible you changed your hostname lately ? | 07:43 |
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plefno | i'm not sure what you mean | 07:43 |
sobersabre | have you installed the system yourself ? | 07:44 |
plefno | yes, just a couple hours ago. actually several times now | 07:44 |
sobersabre | hm. is the network given to you via dhcp ? | 07:44 |
plefno | the system doesn't have any internet connection at the moment because it's connected via wireless | 07:44 |
sobersabre | this is not causual ... | 07:45 |
sobersabre | anyway: press Alt+Ctl+F1 | 07:45 |
sobersabre | does it respond ? | 07:45 |
plefno | no, it doesn't | 07:45 |
sobersabre | you should be in the console. | 07:45 |
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plefno | it's completely frozen up if i try to go into GNOME | 07:45 |
sobersabre | and hm... Alt+Ctl+Backspace ? | 07:46 |
Amaranth | plefno: You're not using the 2.6.11 kernel, are you? | 07:46 |
plefno | 2.6.10 | 07:46 |
sobersabre | so you see the GDM, and _after_ you login you get this right ? | 07:46 |
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plefno | yeah, right after i put in my username and password it looks like it starts to boot but then locks up | 07:46 |
sobersabre | ok. | 07:47 |
oofnik | will i get any performance improvement by installing the 686 kernel image instead of 386? | 07:47 |
Amaranth | that sounds exactly like the inotify issue with 2.6.11 | 07:47 |
Amaranth | oofnik: Somewhat. | 07:47 |
sobersabre | which video card do you use ? | 07:47 |
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oofnik | any possible problems with doing so? | 07:47 |
sobersabre | Amaranth, what are you talking about ? | 07:47 |
plefno | i have a geforce 6200 256mb | 07:47 |
sobersabre | plefno, which driver do you use ? | 07:47 |
sobersabre | nvidia's or xorg's ? | 07:48 |
plefno | whatever the installation chose | 07:48 |
sobersabre | oih...i see. | 07:48 |
Amaranth | sobersabre: Using the 2.6.11 in universe causes your system to hard lock on GNOME startup. | 07:48 |
sobersabre | Amaranth, and the reason is.. ? | 07:48 |
sobersabre | selinux settings? :) | 07:49 |
oofnik | is rarewares.org down? | 07:49 |
bimberi | plefno: does it only freeze after you put in your un/pw or if you leave it does it freeze anyway? | 07:49 |
Amaranth | sobersabre: It isn't really 2.6.11, it's a snapshot of some time after 2.6.10 | 07:49 |
sobersabre | ok | 07:49 |
plefno | no, i don't think it will freeze if i just let it sit there | 07:49 |
sobersabre | anyway, plefno you seem to need to edit your xorg.conf file. | 07:49 |
sobersabre | and you probably need to install nvidia drivers. | 07:49 |
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plefno | well i'm extremely new to linux so I don't know how to do that. any howtos you can point me to to help out? | 07:50 |
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bimberi | plefno: ok. so it's unlikely to be something that starts up after gdm | 07:50 |
sobersabre | yep. use the ubuntu nvidia guide. | 07:50 |
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sobersabre | bimberi, it is very possible that gnome uses some nicey-nice feature like composite or whatever rendering. while gdm - doesn't , thus the lockup | 07:51 |
plefno | ok, i'll try that out | 07:51 |
sobersabre | plefno, there's guide on how to setup your ubuntu to use nvidia drivers and what to edit. | 07:51 |
sobersabre | in the ubuntu portal... sorry i don't wish to search for it. | 07:52 |
sobersabre | you need to be able to edit files via console. | 07:52 |
plefno | i'll find that under documentation on the ubuntu site? | 07:52 |
sobersabre | yep. | 07:52 |
sobersabre | but. | 07:52 |
HrdwrBoB | nvidia drivers are covered in the BinaryDriverHowto on the wiki | 07:52 |
sobersabre | you will probably need to reboot. after you see login screen - don't try to login via ir | 07:52 |
sobersabre | it | 07:52 |
HrdwrBoB | wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowo | 07:53 |
HrdwrBoB | wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto | 07:53 |
sobersabre | plefno, press "Alt+Ctl+F1" to get into console ( now it is locked,, so it won't help ) | 07:53 |
plefno | thanks hrdwr | 07:53 |
HrdwrBoB | no worries | 07:53 |
plefno | should i boot in recovery mode or to the failsafe console? | 07:53 |
HrdwrBoB | you don't need to reboot | 07:53 |
HrdwrBoB | you don't need to go to console | 07:53 |
HrdwrBoB | you can install the drivers | 07:54 |
HrdwrBoB | then logout | 07:54 |
HrdwrBoB | then hit ctrl+alt+bksp | 07:54 |
plefno | i can't login at all | 07:54 |
plefno | it just freezes up | 07:54 |
sobersabre | HrdwrBoB, without logging into the system it is difficult | 07:54 |
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HrdwrBoB | ah oh it freezes | 07:54 |
sobersabre | plefno, you do need to reboot. | 07:54 |
sobersabre | :) | 07:54 |
HrdwrBoB | ah the 6200 is not supported | 07:54 |
sobersabre | and you do need to get into console | 07:54 |
HrdwrBoB | I thought he just needed nvidia drivers | 07:54 |
ilba7r | i want to add an application to the gnome menu i know there is a menu editor for gnome but i forgot its name any help is appreciated | 07:55 |
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sobersabre | wow. | 07:55 |
bimberi | ilba7r: smeg | 07:55 |
plefno | ok, will do | 07:55 |
sobersabre | plefno, wait! | 07:55 |
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ilba7r | thank bimberi | 07:55 |
sobersabre | HrdwrBoB, are you sure about the card ? | 07:55 |
bimberi | ilba7r: yw :) | 07:55 |
levander | Recently I started having some minor wierd terminal emulation issues when I connect to my Ubuntu box via putty. This has happened to anyone else? | 07:55 |
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HrdwrBoB | sobersabre: the 6200 came out after the latest drivers, I'm fairly sure the binary drivers don't support it | 07:56 |
plefno | so will i need to try some other drivers? | 07:56 |
sobersabre | plefno, no... if you have an unsupported card.... you have an unsupported card. | 07:57 |
sobersabre | :|( | 07:57 |
HrdwrBoB | the nv drivers however may work | 07:57 |
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plefno | well i might as well try that | 07:57 |
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plefno | it figures that when i find a linux distro that sounds like i'd actually like it, that my video card isn't supported | 07:57 |
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levander | lol plefno | 07:58 |
bimberi | plefno: It's probably still worth trying the Howto - things can only improve | 07:58 |
sobersabre | latest driver: Release Date: June 22, 2005 | 07:58 |
levander | what is a good video card to get that is comparable to the 6200 that is well supported by ubuntu? | 07:58 |
tristanmike | apparently the 7667 drivers might work | 07:58 |
sobersabre | are you trying to tell me the card came out after that ? | 07:58 |
plefno | yeah i'm going to try it. i'm finishing a fresh install of ubuntu at the moment | 07:59 |
sobersabre | plefno, don't listen to pessimists :) | 07:59 |
unome | 6600 works fine here | 07:59 |
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sobersabre | use the latest nvidia drivers | 07:59 |
bimberi | plefno: how many install so far? :) | 07:59 |
sobersabre | plefno, reboot, don't waste time... after it is all setup you will enjoy | 07:59 |
plefno | well just counting ubuntu and kubuntu, probably about 4 today. i kept switching back and forth even though neither worked | 07:59 |
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plefno | i really want to use KDE but once i get Ubuntu working it's easy enough to get KDE | 08:00 |
unome | KDE loves you, come to the light. | 08:00 |
bimberi | plefno: yes a "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" will do that | 08:01 |
plefno | well I'm a lifetime Windows user and KDE seems like the best transition to linux for me | 08:01 |
unome | amen. | 08:01 |
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plefno | ok, installed. rebooting and hoping for the best | 08:06 |
gobeavs | I used to be pro KDE | 08:06 |
gobeavs | now Gnome > KDE | 08:06 |
IceDC571 | gobeavs :) | 08:06 |
Spec | me too | 08:06 |
plefno | well i'll probably try out both gnome and KDE, but at the moment i like KDE better | 08:06 |
gobeavs | howdy ICE :P | 08:06 |
sobersabre | how do i use splashimages in menu.lst ? | 08:06 |
IceDC571 | gobeavs: what made you switch? | 08:07 |
sobersabre | where do i write what ? | 08:07 |
gobeavs | Ubuntu :D | 08:07 |
gobeavs | Kubuntu wasnt fully developed | 08:07 |
gobeavs | and just using Gnome, I have come to love it | 08:07 |
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IceDC571 | thats good to hear | 08:07 |
gobeavs | although I havent really used KDE in a while.....it just seems like its way to cluttered | 08:07 |
gobeavs | which could probably be fixed, but I just like Gnome | 08:07 |
IceDC571 | i remember when gnome first had nautilus.. it was really slow, my only option was to use kde | 08:07 |
plefno | yes!!! it worked. woohoo!! | 08:08 |
plefno | thanks a lot guys | 08:08 |
Tomcat_ | I don't want to go to kubuntu... Gnome is much better packaged imho. | 08:08 |
bimberi | plefno: great! | 08:08 |
Tomcat_ | Not even xfce is packaged so well. | 08:08 |
hondje | wow, gnuplot isn't gpl'd :( | 08:08 |
IceDC571 | is there a xubuntu? heh | 08:08 |
advantage1_ | i need help | 08:08 |
gobeavs | whats everyones favorite light window manager? | 08:08 |
Tomcat_ | IceDC571: ubuntu has one of the best xfce bundles I heard. | 08:08 |
gobeavs | advantage: whats your problem? | 08:09 |
budluva | gobeavs, i dont mind fluxbox | 08:09 |
advantage1_ | i need a girl friend | 08:09 |
Tomcat_ | But it's just like KDE... you have to do everything yourself. :o | 08:09 |
IceDC571 | advantage1_: me too | 08:09 |
gobeavs | advantage: tough | 08:09 |
gobeavs | :-P | 08:09 |
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gobeavs | bud: I think thats my fav also | 08:09 |
IceDC571 | who needs a girl when i have linux | 08:09 |
advantage1_ | how come linux nerds never get hot chicks | 08:09 |
hondje | I have a hot chick | 08:09 |
SpecialBuddy | haha | 08:09 |
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budluva | i find my gf hot | 08:10 |
advantage1_ | i want a linux nerd girl friend | 08:10 |
advantage1_ | we can ssh . and rub ports | 08:10 |
IceDC571 | apt-get free sex | 08:10 |
KhaBal | lol | 08:10 |
tristanmike | lol | 08:10 |
IceDC571 | error: | 08:10 |
foxiness | haha | 08:10 |
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jo | yes | 08:11 |
advantage1_ | ok ima go sleep beside my commodore | 08:11 |
hondje | agreed | 08:11 |
advantage1_ | :P night all | 08:11 |
jo | hm yes i must go to stil awy 40 oures | 08:11 |
ratl3 | IceDC571, shit, have you filed a bugzilla report? | 08:11 |
budluva | anyone here ever had problems with sound and alsa in hoary? | 08:12 |
IceDC571 | i hope he falls asleep dreaming of a terminal with nothing but errors.. one of the most boring dreams you can have | 08:12 |
IceDC571 | i will file a bugzilla report | 08:12 |
IceDC571 | my apt-get moo still works | 08:12 |
tristanmike | mine too | 08:12 |
ratl3 | what's moo? is that some mud client? | 08:13 |
IceDC571 | ratl3: go to the terminal type apt-get moo | 08:14 |
hondje | gnome term is a good mud client ;) | 08:14 |
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ratl3 | oh, ha | 08:14 |
IceDC571 | apt-get for rpms.. ahahah | 08:14 |
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IceDC571 | pretty soon the gentoo crowd will follow and use apt-get to compile their apps | 08:16 |
IceDC571 | forget ebuilds | 08:16 |
ratl3 | i like ebuilds... | 08:16 |
IceDC571 | me too | 08:16 |
IceDC571 | too bad debian doesnt support it | 08:17 |
IceDC571 | can you alien an ebuild these days? | 08:17 |
ratl3 | it's alien just for binary packages? | 08:17 |
IceDC571 | sadly, i think so | 08:18 |
ratl3 | i meant to say isnt | 08:18 |
plefno | ok, new question. i'm using a linksys wireless USB adaptor. the device is listed correctly in the device manager, but it's shown as a network adaptor when i do "iwconfig" | 08:18 |
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hondje | Yes, finally a 64 bit celeron :-D | 08:18 |
ratl3 | dvorak messes with your mind | 08:18 |
Burgundavia | ebuilds are not actually packages, merely commands to compile a package and thus cannot be supported by alient | 08:18 |
IceDC571 | ratl3: i read it wrong.. i thought you said isnt too.. my stupid vision | 08:18 |
ratl3 | IceDC571: heh | 08:19 |
ratl3 | IceDC571: it's great mistyping whole words instead of just letters... | 08:19 |
Adross | with the nautilus right click menu, the create documents sub menu, how do i go about installing templates? | 08:19 |
IceDC571 | dvorak.. i want to try it so badly! | 08:19 |
IceDC571 | but then whenever i go to my friends house they'll be like.. wtf.. you cant type | 08:20 |
ratl3 | IceDC571: common words just flow out so easily.... so if a word is similar to a common word sometimes i just type that word | 08:20 |
IceDC571 | try to explain you can only type in dvorak to your gf | 08:20 |
ratl3 | IceDC571: it takes a while to get used to the switch | 08:20 |
IceDC571 | ratl3: you're actually using it? | 08:20 |
ratl3 | IceDC571: i can only type dvorak on this keyboard, but on other keyboards i'm fine with qwerty | 08:21 |
ratl3 | IceDC571: by switch i mean alternating between dvorak and qwerty | 08:21 |
imaek | How do you go to a specific line in VIM? | 08:21 |
IceDC571 | ratl3: so its like once you learn dvorak you can pretty much type with both qwerty and dvorak fluently? | 08:21 |
ratl3 | IceDC571: it's only about 5 to 10% better | 08:21 |
IceDC571 | my fear is going out to the rest of the world and not remembering how to type qwerty | 08:22 |
ratl3 | IceDC571: on a switch, say i go to a friends house, it'll take me about 5 mins to warm up | 08:22 |
imaek | Nevermind. | 08:22 |
IceDC571 | i see | 08:22 |
ratl3 | IceDC571: then i'll be back to what i was originally | 08:22 |
Choubaka | hmm | 08:23 |
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IceDC571 | ratl3: do you have a dvorak permanent keyboard, modified keys, or stick-ons? | 08:23 |
ratl3 | IceDC571: it doesn't take much to learn either though... 10 or 20 times easier to learn than qwerty | 08:23 |
Choubaka | where do the scandinavian letters go in a dvorak layout? my keyboard has those letters. | 08:23 |
Choubaka | and and | 08:23 |
HrdwrBoB | IceDC571: model M, movable keycaps :D | 08:23 |
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ratl3 | i'm using stickers | 08:24 |
cafuego | Choubaka: Sorry, dvorak was designed for english. | 08:24 |
ratl3 | Choubaka: i wouldn't know | 08:24 |
Choubaka | hmm. | 08:24 |
ratl3 | cafuego: there's versions of it for other languages | 08:24 |
IceDC571 | i wish i could pick some up from a local linux shop.. but there isnt such thing | 08:24 |
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Choubaka | finnish would probably require all the vowels readily accessible. | 08:25 |
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Choubaka | lots of vowels in Finnish words. :) | 08:25 |
ratl3 | IceDC571: i think it's best just to get a qwerty keyboard you like and some stickers | 08:25 |
cafuego | and a special 'coffee' and 'vodka' key | 08:25 |
ratl3 | haha | 08:25 |
Choubaka | hehe | 08:25 |
Choubaka | I want one of those USB coffee makers. | 08:25 |
Choubaka | then I could bind "coffee" to a key | 08:25 |
cafuego | No, you don't. They make shit coffee. | 08:26 |
meng | won't that take a while to make a cuppa? | 08:26 |
meng | USB is low powered, remember | 08:26 |
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IceDC571 | screw USB, tie it to one of the wires to your PSU | 08:26 |
ratl3 | haha | 08:26 |
Choubaka | Well, then I want a remotely controllable coffee maker that makes good coffee. | 08:26 |
meng | would like a mini fridge myself | 08:26 |
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ratl3 | or just use your computer to brew it... | 08:27 |
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Choubaka | That would work. | 08:27 |
IceDC571 | i need someone to make a gui for pizza party | 08:27 |
ratl3 | ? | 08:27 |
meng | does Pizza Party only works in the US? | 08:27 |
ratl3 | is that a game? | 08:28 |
IceDC571 | http://www.beigerecords.com/cory/pizza_party/ | 08:28 |
ratl3 | sweet! | 08:28 |
bimberi | plefno: still here? | 08:28 |
ratl3 | i should make a cron job for this | 08:28 |
ratl3 | hah | 08:28 |
tristanmike | that's awesome | 08:29 |
cafuego | Try hacking the coffee daemon | 08:29 |
cafuego | Or was that tea daemon? | 08:29 |
dbernar1 | bah, what an idea/ | 08:29 |
meng | ktea? | 08:29 |
cafuego | no, not k | 08:29 |
meng | Kteatime | 08:30 |
cafuego | There's been somehting since well before kde | 08:30 |
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meng | but no prefs for local varities though | 08:30 |
crappledev | IceDC571: All of my prayers have been answered, pizza party :) | 08:30 |
cafuego | hmm, no | 08:31 |
meng | i don't even know if i can use pizza party with pizza hut an dominos in malaysia | 08:31 |
ratl3 | why would you want a gui for pizza party? | 08:31 |
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meng | easier for people to order pizza | 08:31 |
cafuego | wtf would you order pizza fom dominos or pizza hut? | 08:31 |
cafuego | they are _so_ bad | 08:31 |
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ratl3 | wouldn't the places web sites work for that? | 08:31 |
IceDC571 | cafuego: what do they do to your pizza? lol | 08:31 |
heatxsink | anyone know how I can make gnome in ubuntu use the windows key L binding to lock the screen? | 08:31 |
crappledev | well considering that they have websites.. | 08:31 |
cafuego | IceDC571: cardboard | 08:32 |
ratl3 | IceDC571: heart attack, stroke.... | 08:32 |
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IceDC571 | lol | 08:32 |
cafuego | I mean come on, have some standards | 08:32 |
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dabaR | see | 08:33 |
IceDC571 | make a script that sends a random girl to my house from those dating sites | 08:33 |
heatxsink | no one? Windows Key L? | 08:33 |
dabaR | haha, IceDC571 / | 08:33 |
dabaR | called apt-get aids | 08:34 |
GTswagger | CarlFK -- are you still around? | 08:34 |
tristanmike | why not just apt-get escorts? | 08:35 |
Burgundavia | heatxsink, unfortunately the windows key cannot current be used with any other key. It is quite an annoying bug | 08:35 |
crappledev | Burgundavia , that doesn't sound like a bug, it sounds intentional | 08:36 |
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IceDC571 | in KDE it launches their start panel | 08:36 |
IceDC571 | in gnome the key does um... nothing | 08:36 |
Amaranth | IceDC571: Ctrl-F1 | 08:36 |
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dabaR | alt+f1? | 08:37 |
crappledev | well my crapple key works...with bindings | 08:37 |
Amaranth | oh, alt | 08:37 |
Amaranth | yeah | 08:37 |
DmapEditor | Hey I just installed the ubuntu on my machine and noticed that there was little programming stuff. Where could I get some good java/c++/perl stuff | 08:37 |
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dabaR | hehe, jj. | 08:37 |
IceDC571 | i need a keyboard with a tux key | 08:38 |
dabaR | sudo aptitude install build-essential to begin | 08:38 |
lifeless | I need a tux with a keyboard | 08:38 |
dabaR | Agreed. | 08:38 |
DmapEditor | a keyboard tuxedo hhahaha | 08:38 |
crappledev | IceDC571, if the happy hacker keyboard wasn't $99 we'd all have one | 08:38 |
dabaR | DmapEditor: also, well, what more specifically would you like? | 08:38 |
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dabaR | search google for programming tools linux | 08:39 |
Burgundavia | crappledev, no it is a bug, because some distros patch it | 08:39 |
SpecialBuddy | how do I run kill it | 08:39 |
dabaR | find some program and aptitude install it | 08:39 |
DmapEditor | ahhaha, why don't you just spray paint your own keyboard black for like, $3.00 | 08:39 |
IceDC571 | ooo.. someone likes using aptitude > apt-get | 08:39 |
dabaR | evceryone should so I hear. | 08:40 |
DmapEditor | dabaR, search google? the number? | 08:40 |
DmapEditor | what is google? | 08:40 |
bob2 | DmapEditor: installing build-essential gets you a basic C/C++ tool chain | 08:40 |
dabaR | its too late, I have a midterm tomorrow. Im going to sleep | 08:40 |
bob2 | DmapEditor: if you want more than just that, you'll need to be more specific | 08:40 |
dabaR | bye, bye | 08:40 |
dabaR | I told him that too:) | 08:41 |
dabaR | well, in fact, ill leave this open...might as well | 08:41 |
DmapEditor | cool bob2, thanks | 08:41 |
crappledev | the build-essential does not have support for -l objc | 08:41 |
bob2 | indeed, objective C is not C or C++ | 08:42 |
crappledev | bob2, where can i get it? | 08:42 |
bob2 | you want gobjc if you care about that | 08:42 |
IceDC571 | does anyone have an example of why aptitude handles dependencies better than apt-get? | 08:42 |
crappledev | bob2, thanks | 08:43 |
dabaR | haha | 08:43 |
dabaR | everyone missed it | 08:43 |
IceDC571 | or is it just a well known rumor? | 08:43 |
dabaR | DmapEditor asked what is google. | 08:43 |
dabaR | I just noticed... nice | 08:43 |
bob2 | I assumed it was a silly joke | 08:43 |
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IceDC571 | yeah same here | 08:43 |
dabaR | ok, I thought all missed it | 08:43 |
dabaR | ok, night again. | 08:44 |
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DmapEditor | darn, ubuntu won't let me su - | 08:44 |
Myrtti | shalalala | 08:44 |
DmapEditor | I'm just clark kent without my super user powers | 08:44 |
bob2 | DmapEditor: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo | 08:44 |
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bob2 | (it's in the FAQ, and the installer explained it) | 08:44 |
DmapEditor | cool | 08:45 |
unome | the ultimate proof that aptitude is not better than apt-get is: aptitude moo | 08:45 |
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IceDC571 | hah.. i never noticed that, unome | 08:45 |
IceDC571 | what a lame response though | 08:46 |
unome | hehe | 08:46 |
hondje | haha | 08:46 |
IceDC571 | i guess it shows they are tough by not including easter eggs | 08:46 |
bob2 | or that you haven't found the real aptitude easter egg | 08:46 |
hondje | So easily discouraged! | 08:47 |
IceDC571 | i never really thought of easter eggs on linux | 08:47 |
crappledev | but.. "aptitude lets one uninstall unused packages without messing with dependencies..." which let me to this, apt-get remove aptitude | 08:48 |
Myrtti | try aptitude -v moo | 08:48 |
Myrtti | or aptitude -v-v moo | 08:48 |
hondje | lol | 08:48 |
IceDC571 | haha | 08:48 |
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IceDC571 | Myrtti: how did you find that out? | 08:48 |
fabbione | and keep adding -v is more fun | 08:48 |
hondje | Probably wasn't as easily discouraged | 08:49 |
Myrtti | google: "aptitude moo" | 08:49 |
Myrtti | ;-) | 08:49 |
Myrtti | though in warty it was more fun | 08:49 |
DmapEditor | arg, I can't stand not being able to get to a root shell | 08:49 |
unome | apt-cache show cowsay | 08:50 |
hondje | you win on the 5th one | 08:50 |
DmapEditor | that's what gentoo was all about | 08:50 |
hondje | the 6th one explains it, how cute | 08:50 |
bob2 | DmapEditor: a) you don't need one, b) you can have one. "sudo -s" | 08:51 |
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synd | gah, i just installed a DVD drive and it was working fine until it froze up, i had to reboot and now its playing my DVDs at an accelerated rate | 08:54 |
synd | help? | 08:54 |
amethyst | is kubuntu the live cd? | 08:54 |
unome | isn't there a root terminal in Gnome's menu? | 08:54 |
synd | amethyst: no, kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE | 08:54 |
DmapEditor | ugh, emerge command not found | 08:54 |
DmapEditor | lol | 08:55 |
Burgundavia | unome, applications-->system tools--> root terminal | 08:55 |
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amethyst | oh cool | 08:55 |
IceDC571 | i'll make my own pubuntu with porn | 08:55 |
unome | Burgundavia: thanks for confirming, I don't use Gnome | 08:56 |
amethyst | haha. | 08:56 |
IceDC571 | is google running on unix.. or freebsd? | 08:58 |
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amethyst | freebsd is a type of unix | 08:58 |
unome | google OS? | 08:58 |
IceDC571 | windows server 2003 | 08:58 |
IceDC571 | ack. | 08:58 |
mjr | I hear google uses linux heavily, though I suppose they might use others as well | 08:58 |
synd | GooOS | 08:59 |
synd | the idea behind it is really intuitive | 08:59 |
IceDC571 | i hate ASP, all the websites have errors and most of them are only viewed properly in ie | 08:59 |
bob2 | people can write buggy web applications in any language | 08:59 |
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amethyst | what about php? | 09:00 |
rza | what do i gain with ubuntu compared to pure debian? | 09:00 |
IceDC571 | well php can be buggy sometimes but from all the websites i've visited its had more uptime than websites hosted on windows servers | 09:00 |
amethyst | rza: a support group like a saturn family? just kidding, I don't know, yet | 09:01 |
cavedive1 | rza: regular updates. | 09:01 |
IceDC571 | rza: you can loose a lot of headaches with ubuntu | 09:01 |
cavedive1 | rza: as in stable, supported releases. | 09:01 |
amethyst | ubuntu very easy to install | 09:01 |
Burgundavia | rza, ubuntu is more agressive with new package and is better integrated | 09:01 |
rza | "and is better integrated" | 09:01 |
bob2 | hrm, not really more aggressive, in general | 09:01 |
rza | meaning what? | 09:01 |
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LexiCon[gsr-dj] | hey guys... | 09:02 |
Burgundavia | one good default set of programs, not many for the same task | 09:02 |
LexiCon[gsr-dj] | how did plefno get past the drivers issue with the 6200 vid card? :\ | 09:02 |
LexiCon[gsr-dj] | I get the same lockup @ the login screen :( | 09:02 |
rza | does ubuntu come with default set of applications? | 09:02 |
Seveas | rza, 'better integrated' means that Ubuntu feels like a system instead of a collection of tools... | 09:02 |
Burgundavia | bob2, modular X, x.org, gnome 2.10, etc | 09:02 |
Burgundavia | rza, yes | 09:02 |
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rza | can i have minimal installation if i want? | 09:02 |
bob2 | Burgundavia: debian has newer libc, tomcat, etc | 09:02 |
bob2 | rza: sure | 09:02 |
Seveas | rza, yes, there is a default desktop install and a default non-desktop install | 09:02 |
Burgundavia | bob2, true | 09:02 |
Seveas | the non-desktop is the minimal install :) | 09:03 |
LexiCon[gsr-dj] | how do I get past the 6200 vid card driver issue? :\ | 09:03 |
rza | if ubuntu adoptes upstream packages faster, can i be sure that they are properly tested? | 09:03 |
rza | do i get the same stability as with pure debian | 09:03 |
Seveas | rza, yes, sometimes even better | 09:03 |
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bob2 | no, you can't be sure | 09:03 |
bob2 | they do get months of testing before ending up in a stable release, tho, so it's generally ok | 09:04 |
Seveas | Ack... if you try a development version you might have a more rough ride | 09:04 |
Burgundavia | rza, ubuntu is one of the few distros to ship the developement versions of gnome | 09:04 |
Seveas | Ubuntu development versions are not like Debian testing :) | 09:04 |
IceDC571 | rza: with pure debian, you have to configure everything and start from scratch.. from my experience, ubuntu automates a lot of tasks and preconfigures a lot of things a new user would want to do | 09:04 |
amethyst | rza: are you part of the wutang crew? | 09:05 |
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Amaranth | Seveas: They're like experimental. :) | 09:05 |
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cavedive1 | Yes, Breezy is a little rough at the moment :) | 09:06 |
Amaranth | cavedive1: Understatement of the century. | 09:07 |
rza | IceDC571: i hate when operating system tries to think for me | 09:07 |
cavedive1 | They are in a major transition go GCC 4 and some other stuff. | 09:07 |
Burgundavia | rza, there is a difference between thinking for you and being well integrated | 09:07 |
cavedive1 | I use it and don't have so much trouble. | 09:07 |
Amaranth | cavedive1: debian sid is about to do that too | 09:07 |
cavedive1 | ok.. | 09:07 |
rza | "ubuntu automates a lot of tasks" | 09:07 |
rza | sounds evil | 09:08 |
bob2 | note that it seems many of you don't seem to have used sarge, which is closer to ubuntu's style than woody was | 09:08 |
IceDC571 | not really | 09:08 |
rza | thats like one step closer to devil (ms) | 09:08 |
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bob2 | rza: it's not, don't be silly. you can undo anything it does. | 09:08 |
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rza | maybe ill stick with debian | 09:08 |
rza | anyway, thank you for comments | 09:08 |
cavedive1 | rza: well. Just use LFS then if you don't want anything predone. | 09:08 |
IceDC571 | i dont mean automate as in do stuff without your permission | 09:08 |
Amaranth | bob2: What do you mean closer to ubuntu | 09:08 |
Amaranth | err, ubuntu's style | 09:08 |
bob2 | Amaranth: e.g. users are in the audio group | 09:09 |
IceDC571 | i mean like preconfigured hardware stuff so everything works properly when you boot into ubuntu | 09:09 |
bob2 | that sort of thing | 09:09 |
Amaranth | oh | 09:09 |
Amaranth | yeah, that was a PITA in woody | 09:09 |
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bob2 | and they obviously have the same installer, etc | 09:09 |
Amaranth | bob2: i think i actually annoyed you about a couple of those things in #debian a long time ago :) | 09:09 |
holycow | http://rlocate.sourceforge.net/ <-- neato | 09:09 |
bob2 | er, similar installers based on the same code | 09:09 |
cavedive1 | I think a gui installer is planned for Breezy | 09:10 |
cavedive1 | Or the next one. | 09:10 |
Amaranth | nope | 09:10 |
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IceDC571 | fedora's anaconda installer is a nightmare.. very evil | 09:10 |
cavedive1 | Can't remember | 09:10 |
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Amaranth | was planned for breezy, doesn't look like it's going to happen | 09:10 |
Amaranth | same as usplash | 09:10 |
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Burgundavia | Amaranth, it is going to happen | 09:10 |
Burgundavia | Amaranth, the live and install cds are going to be unified | 09:11 |
IceDC571 | Burgundavia: are you serious? | 09:11 |
Burgundavia | usplash is another matter | 09:11 |
Amaranth | Burgundavia: That's not what I'm talking about. | 09:11 |
LexiCon[gsr-dj] | hello? :\ | 09:11 |
Amaranth | oh, you mean they're going to cheat on the install? | 09:11 |
Burgundavia | IceDC571, I haven't seen any code, but I understand that is what is happening | 09:11 |
Burgundavia | Amaranth, mepis does the same thing, I think | 09:11 |
IceDC571 | thats correct, mepis is a live cd and installer | 09:12 |
IceDC571 | but personally i like it the way it is | 09:12 |
Burgundavia | Amaranth, the debian installer is going to stay texted based | 09:12 |
IceDC571 | ubuntu that is | 09:12 |
Amaranth | boot up to a full working ubuntu live cd X then run an installer app from there? | 09:12 |
Burgundavia | s/texted/text | 09:12 |
Burgundavia | basically | 09:12 |
IceDC571 | i know.. thats horrible, i dont want to boot up a desktop from a live cd and install from there | 09:12 |
Burgundavia | also means that shipit will only need to ship one cd | 09:12 |
Burgundavia | IceDC571, there are many gains and few losses | 09:13 |
Amaranth | how will it all fit? | 09:13 |
Amaranth | it barely all fits now | 09:13 |
Burgundavia | no idea | 09:13 |
Burgundavia | shoe horns? | 09:13 |
IceDC571 | mepis made it fit | 09:13 |
holycow | Burgundavia, you keep strange hours | 09:13 |
holycow | >_> | 09:13 |
Burgundavia | holycow, it is only midnight here | 09:13 |
Choubaka | Magick Ubuntu powers of DOOM. | 09:13 |
holycow | *cough* | 09:13 |
holycow | :) | 09:13 |
Amaranth | 2am here | 09:14 |
Amaranth | hurray midwest | 09:14 |
Choubaka | 10 am here :P | 09:14 |
IceDC571 | 12am here | 09:14 |
Amaranth | damn west coast people | 09:14 |
Amaranth | Choubaka: AUS? | 09:14 |
IceDC571 | hah | 09:14 |
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Amaranth | *boggle* | 09:15 |
Amaranth | 10 am? | 09:15 |
IceDC571 | seriously | 09:15 |
IceDC571 | that timing must be off a few hours | 09:15 |
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Amaranth | oh | 09:15 |
Amaranth | GMT+2 | 09:15 |
Amaranth | i can believe it | 09:15 |
Seveas | it's 8am UTC, so 9am western europe and 10am finland :) | 09:15 |
IceDC571 | oh wait i counted wrong | 09:15 |
IceDC571 | stupid me | 09:15 |
Amaranth | yeah | 09:16 |
holycow | 12 am here too | 09:16 |
IceDC571 | i thought 10am was close to 12am | 09:16 |
Amaranth | i can do super advanced crazy math but i can't do basic addition | 09:16 |
Amaranth | yay! | 09:16 |
Seveas | 12am..? middle east..? | 09:16 |
Choubaka | Hm. | 09:16 |
IceDC571 | Seveas: california | 09:16 |
holycow | canada, you goat | 09:16 |
holycow | :) | 09:16 |
Seveas | hmm | 09:16 |
IceDC571 | yay canada! | 09:16 |
Choubaka | maybe rlocate could use inotify or something. | 09:16 |
holycow | yay indeed! | 09:16 |
Seveas | ah, midnight | 09:16 |
Amaranth | 12am comes before 10am :) | 09:17 |
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IceDC571 | holycow: where you at? | 09:17 |
Seveas | i'd say that's 0am or 12pm | 09:17 |
holycow | Choubaka, i was more thinking like really fast file searches | 09:17 |
holycow | IceDC571, vancouver, you? | 09:17 |
Choubaka | holycow: well, yeah. | 09:17 |
IceDC571 | i really want to go back up to vancouver | 09:17 |
IceDC571 | im in san francisco | 09:17 |
Choubaka | locate rocks, but you have to keep it updated ;P | 09:17 |
holycow | oy :) | 09:17 |
holycow | sf sounds cool oo | 09:17 |
holycow | too | 09:17 |
IceDC571 | yeah | 09:17 |
robitaille | until you live there...then you want to move back to Canada :) | 09:18 |
robitaille | (done it....) | 09:18 |
Amaranth | Choubaka: ubuntu handily kills your system performance once a day by running updatedb for you | 09:18 |
Burgundavia | portland is quite nice | 09:18 |
Burgundavia | the city is almost canadian in feel | 09:18 |
IceDC571 | portland is lovely | 09:18 |
Choubaka | Amaranth: yeah. | 09:18 |
IceDC571 | i remember passing by there | 09:18 |
Choubaka | Amaranth: Breezy should incorporate ck patches and shedtool | 09:18 |
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Choubaka | Amaranth: so they could run the update in batch mode or something. | 09:19 |
Amaranth | talk to me about gnome, not cli junk :) | 09:19 |
Choubaka | Amaranth: really cool stuff. | 09:19 |
Burgundavia | Choubaka, a better place to ask about that kind of stuff might be #ubuntu-devel | 09:19 |
IceDC571 | what is the release date set for breezy? | 09:19 |
Amaranth | IceDC571: 5.10 | 09:19 |
holycow | the other thing that would be neato would be a caching too for nautilus, particularly for dirs like /usr/bin | 09:19 |
Choubaka | Amaranth: check out kernel.kolivas.org :) | 09:19 |
IceDC571 | 10.5? lol | 09:19 |
Burgundavia | IceDC571, 5.10.13 to be precise | 09:19 |
Burgundavia | should the gnome release not slip | 09:20 |
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Amaranth | IceDC571: 5.10 == October 2005 | 09:20 |
Choubaka | Ubuntu 10.5 could rock. will it ever exist? :P | 09:20 |
holycow | http://www.kaboodle.org/ <-- *hmmm* | 09:20 |
Amaranth | Choubaka: Nope. | 09:20 |
holycow | i thought kaboodle was a kde media app? | 09:20 |
Amaranth | 10.4 might | 09:20 |
Choubaka | heh, yeah. | 09:20 |
Amaranth | well, 10.04 | 09:20 |
holycow | houston, i think we have duplication | 09:20 |
Nelo | Hello, question...speaker still working with Headphones plugged in! | 09:20 |
Choubaka | 10.4 has to be pretty good .P | 09:20 |
Nelo | any ideas how to fix that? | 09:20 |
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Burgundavia | 10x10 | 09:21 |
IceDC571 | you will be arrested if you're using windows | 09:21 |
holycow | oh nm, it turns out to be a windows app | 09:21 |
holycow | meh | 09:21 |
Choubaka | :D | 09:21 |
IceDC571 | because by that time.. all copies will be illegal | 09:21 |
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Seveas | Nelo, the speaker muting and headphones muting are different controls on some (most?) laptops... | 09:21 |
Seveas | Nelo, open a terminal, maximize it, and start amixer | 09:22 |
Seveas | alsamixer* | 09:22 |
Nelo | thanks | 09:22 |
Seveas | you'll see the different controls, it's really nice :) | 09:22 |
Nelo | cool | 09:22 |
Seveas | Ik even got my led-in-the-mute-button to work :) | 09:22 |
KhaBal | how do i use synaptic so it can detect this https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto | 09:23 |
Seveas | It* | 09:23 |
Seveas | damn, /me needs coffee | 09:23 |
KhaBal | woops wrong URL | 09:23 |
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Nelo | Seveas thanks | 09:23 |
robitaille | Burgundavia: have you seen http://live.gnome.org/10x10 recently? They started adding more stats to it | 09:23 |
KhaBal | how do i add this site to synaptic http://dockapps.org/file.php/id/29 | 09:23 |
KhaBal | deb http://dockapps.org/file.php/id/29 ?? | 09:23 |
KhaBal | or just deb http://dockapps.org/ | 09:24 |
Choubaka | KhaBal: no. | 09:24 |
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Choubaka | KhaBal: it needs to be a specific debian repository. | 09:24 |
KhaBal | how do you know that/ | 09:25 |
Burgundavia | robitaille, nice | 09:25 |
Choubaka | KhaBal: I just do. | 09:25 |
IceDC571 | isnt it common sense? | 09:25 |
Choubaka | KhaBal: those are source packages, not debian packages. | 09:25 |
Choubaka | you can't add them to synaptic :/ | 09:25 |
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Jesse1 | Hey | 09:27 |
IceDC571 | moo | 09:28 |
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Jesse1 | woo moo | 09:28 |
Burgundavia | KhaBal, debian repos have a certain look to them. Once you see it, you will recognize it. Take a look at archive.ubuntu.com | 09:28 |
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Jesse1 | lalalalalaoooo | 09:29 |
IceDC571 | its like http://firstpart.domain.com/ somename/ | 09:29 |
IceDC571 | i believe | 09:29 |
IceDC571 | all repos look like that.. i forgot the deb at the beginning | 09:29 |
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Jesse1 | what about the deb-scr at the frount | 09:30 |
Jesse1 | front* | 09:31 |
IceDC571 | those are src files | 09:31 |
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Jesse1 | and they do? | 09:31 |
IceDC571 | they are source files incase you want to build from the source | 09:31 |
Burgundavia | you can do apt-get source and get the source for particular package | 09:31 |
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Jesse1 | i see | 09:31 |
Burgundavia | if you need to modify the package | 09:31 |
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Jesse1 | well i probably wont be needing to use them | 09:33 |
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cyphase | hey everyone | 09:34 |
IceDC571 | i'm dead.. dont talk to me | 09:34 |
IceDC571 | i need some animal crackers | 09:34 |
HrdwrBoB | animal crackers? | 09:34 |
HrdwrBoB | biscuits made from animals? | 09:34 |
ogge | eeww | 09:34 |
IceDC571 | exactly. | 09:34 |
Jesse1 | hey ive got another question it's not really ubuntu releated but if i buy a ata harddrive now becuase im running out of space, and later on i deciede to upgrade mobo's to one with sata would my hd still work? | 09:35 |
Poromies | dog-biscuits <3 | 09:35 |
KhaBal | hey | 09:35 |
HrdwrBoB | Jesse1: yes | 09:35 |
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Jesse1 | ok | 09:35 |
KhaBal | if you cant have gtkrellm on synaptic well look http://errr-online.com/pics/shot-2005-06-28-023223-1400-1050.jpg | 09:35 |
KhaBal | yes you can | 09:35 |
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IceDC571 | Jesse1: yes. | 09:35 |
ogge | does ubuntu hoary (minimal install) include any webserver? | 09:36 |
dougsk_ | Jesse1, most sata capable mobo's have an ide controller on board, and if not a pci-ide card is cheap | 09:36 |
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Jesse1 | ok thx | 09:36 |
rasputnik | Jesse1 : there are ata-sata converters around for cheap too | 09:37 |
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gobeavs | anyone run windows games on wine with success? | 09:37 |
HrdwrBoB | I use cedega | 09:37 |
Jesse1 | yea but i dont really want to have to urchase of the internet | 09:37 |
dougsk_ | gobeavs, sol.exe an mshearts work great! | 09:37 |
parabolize | gobeavs: yes. se4 | 09:37 |
gobeavs | :-P | 09:37 |
gobeavs | Se4? | 09:37 |
Jesse1 | HrdwrBoB, where you get cedega from or you pay for it? | 09:37 |
dougsk_ | heh heh | 09:37 |
parabolize | space empires 4 | 09:37 |
HrdwrBoB | Jesse1: I paid for it | 09:38 |
gobeavs | ah | 09:38 |
Jesse1 | HrdwrBoB, it cost $15 right | 09:38 |
ogge | which is the latest version of gaim? i got 1.3.1 | 09:38 |
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HrdwrBoB | correct | 09:38 |
HrdwrBoB | $15USD | 09:38 |
Jesse1 | ogge there is a new version but its on in the repositories | 09:38 |
ogge | Ok | 09:38 |
Jesse1 | yea so it will cost me about 24 aud | 09:38 |
kutucape | hi all | 09:39 |
rasputnik | any way of telling what fixes are in a particular package. just booted ubuntu and running firefox 1.0.2 is making me twitchy | 09:39 |
HrdwrBoB | yeah I'm in AU too | 09:39 |
HrdwrBoB | rasputnik: dpkg -L packagename | 09:39 |
Jesse1 | yea go au! | 09:39 |
rasputnik | HrdwrBoB : ta | 09:39 |
parabolize | gobeavs: wine runs just about anything from blizzard. | 09:39 |
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Jesse1 | parabolize, what about WoW? | 09:40 |
HrdwrBoB | I used to play WoW in cedega but I stopped subscribing | 09:40 |
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WldRbit | I play WoW atm. | 09:40 |
gobeavs | parabolize: cool, thanks | 09:40 |
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parabolize | don't know about WoW | 09:40 |
Jesse1 | yea HrdwrBoB thats the only reason why i havent got that game stupid subscriptions and no au servers | 09:40 |
WldRbit | You can even play it windowed mode but then the mouse disappears ingame. | 09:41 |
rasputnik | HrdwrBoB : actually that seems to just list the files - is there a way of seeing what advisories have been patched? | 09:41 |
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parabolize | Jesse1: you can install by cvs. | 09:41 |
ogge | im a little bit worried what ive got in my sources.list. | 09:41 |
ogge | which respositorys is official , and needed. | 09:41 |
HrdwrBoB | rasputnik: not per se | 09:41 |
rasputnik | bugger. I'll rtfm them | 09:41 |
HrdwrBoB | rasputnik: however if you use apt-get to update your packages | 09:41 |
Jesse1 | parabolize, yea | 09:42 |
rasputnik | s/m/n/ | 09:42 |
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HrdwrBoB | it will grab the altest patched versions | 09:42 |
ogge | where is that paste text thing | 09:42 |
ogge | url | 09:42 |
ogge | ops, sorry. topic. | 09:42 |
rasputnik | HrdwrBoB : yeah, just ran synaptic and picked everything up, but i know things can lag a little and wanted some way of knowing when a package has a hole - bit like portaudit in freebsd if you know it | 09:43 |
nikkia | wow, spammers must be desperate | 09:43 |
ogge | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/277 - this is my sources.list , does it seem ok? Do I got official respositories? | 09:43 |
HrdwrBoB | rasputnik: there is an automatic process that will pop up an icon in your bar when ther eare packages to update | 09:44 |
dougsk_ | rasputnik, I think your looking for apt-listchanges or zcat /usr/share/doc/$PACKAGENAME/Changelog.debian.gz | most | 09:44 |
Jesse1 | whats a good theme for gnome? | 09:44 |
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WMCoolmon | hey, is this an average result for a fairly fast (say 5x or more DVD) CD/DVD drive?: Timing buffered disk reads: 8 MB in 3.42 seconds = 2.34 MB/sec | 09:45 |
rasputnik | dougsk_ : that'll do thanks, as long as I can cron it in and get a mail I'm a happy bunny | 09:45 |
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IceDC571 | any girls in here? | 09:46 |
nikkia | WMCoolmon: a little on the low side, i think | 09:46 |
IceDC571 | did they all leave? | 09:46 |
nikkia | WMCoolmon: i'm pretty sure i write at 10MB/s when i'm writing at 8x, so 2.34MB/s would be somewhere close to 2x | 09:46 |
WMCoolmon | nikkia: that's the read speed | 09:47 |
nikkia | WM, yeah, i know, but the base units are the same, i believe | 09:47 |
dougsk_ | rasputnik, I think it's what your looking for, anyhow, and by the way the patch from 1.0.4 was ported back to this hoary version of firefox preventing maliciousness | 09:47 |
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siimo | hi anyone know how to get asian fonts for ubuntu 4.10 ? i see these square boxes with numbers in them in gaim for my asian friends | 09:48 |
rasputnik | dougsk_ : yeah, I googled before coming in here. I'd just like to not have to everytime a ff bug comes out (i.e. every other week :) ) | 09:48 |
Jesse1 | !uptime | 09:48 |
WMCoolmon | i'm trying to figure out why totem freezes when i try to play a dvd, and copies from the disk seem so slow | 09:48 |
nikkia | WMCoolmon: apparently, that is pretty much 2X | 09:48 |
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rasputnik | this is my first linux for about 4 years, nice to see how it's progressed | 09:48 |
nikkia | WM, '2x 22.16 Mbps (2.64 MB/s)' | 09:49 |
Jesse1 | [Best WinXP Uptime] : 1wk 5days 20hrs 55mins 2secs oh i could never get that much uptime on my windows box | 09:49 |
nikkia | wm, check DMA is enabled on the drive | 09:49 |
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nikkia | wm, my dvd defaulted to PIO mode under kubuntu | 09:49 |
WMCoolmon | nikkia: yeah, i just did that | 09:49 |
dougsk_ | rasputnik, I haven't directly used a bsd in about two years so ;~P | 09:49 |
WMCoolmon | totem's still freezing | 09:50 |
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siimo | totem is buggy | 09:50 |
Jesse1 | siimo not really | 09:50 |
WMCoolmon | well, iirc, menus don't work on VLC | 09:50 |
nikkia | wm, they work in xine :) | 09:50 |
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rasputnik | dougsk_: they changed a lot since then :) net and free anyway, I don't bother with others | 09:51 |
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Jesse1 | !thetime | 09:52 |
ubotu | Jesse1: I haven't a clue | 09:52 |
Jesse1 | ubotu, ?? | 09:52 |
ubotu | Jesse1: I don't know, could you explain it? | 09:52 |
rasputnik | right time for work, cheers for the handholding | 09:52 |
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Jesse1 | ubotu, explain what? | 09:52 |
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WMCoolmon | nikkia: ty, xine-ui seems to be working fine | 09:53 |
synd | Jesse1: PM ubotu | 09:53 |
synd | Jesse1: dont do it here | 09:54 |
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WMCoolmon | 2 more questions tonight... | 09:54 |
WMCoolmon | 1) should i care if an application will remove "ubuntu-desktop"? | 09:54 |
Jesse1 | synd, ?? | 09:54 |
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ogge | how to delete a file in terminal? | 09:55 |
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bob2 | WMCoolmon: yes, it will make upgrading to breezy when it's released harder | 09:55 |
bob2 | ogge: rm | 09:55 |
ogge | thx | 09:55 |
WMCoolmon | ogge: rm for files, rm -r for directories | 09:55 |
WMCoolmon | bob2: so keep evolution et al even though i may be using thunderbird instead? | 09:56 |
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bob2 | I would | 09:56 |
siimo | ubuntu rocks for including PornView!!! Description: Image and movie viewer/manager PornView is an image and movie viewer/manager with thumbnail previews. Additional features includes thumbnail caching, directory tree views, adjustable zoom, and fullscreen view. Slideshows allow for unattended presentation of images for hands-free viewing. Pornview is written using GTK+. | 09:56 |
siimo | LOL | 09:56 |
WMCoolmon | alright, thanks :) | 09:56 |
bob2 | unless you're really strapped for disk space | 09:56 |
asad2005 | I have a problem removing gnome-gv, E: gnome-gv: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127 | 09:56 |
IceDC571 | evolution is much better imo | 09:56 |
WMCoolmon | bob2: no, i've got ~19 GB to work with | 09:57 |
bob2 | asad2005: that's not the error, look further up | 09:57 |
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IceDC571 | thunderbird is a huge memory hog, it has part of firefox in it | 09:57 |
bob2 | mutt 4 life. | 09:57 |
WMCoolmon | bob2: and if i run out of space there, 30 GB | 09:57 |
Jesse1 | what a great name for a program | 09:57 |
asad2005 | Cannot install anything else while this error is on | 09:57 |
WMCoolmon | 2) is there a good way to upgrade to alsa 1.0.9? i've tried source packages, but the kernel sources are missing one "include/version.h" | 09:57 |
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ogge | what web browser do you prefer if not firefox ? | 09:57 |
siimo | Jesse1, well its specially designed for porn viewing "hands-free" | 09:57 |
siimo | lol | 09:57 |
bob2 | asad2005: scroll up and paste the entire error to #flood | 09:58 |
Jesse1 | i see lol | 09:58 |
cafuego | 3) Do you have a good reason for wanting alsa 1.0.9? | 09:58 |
IceDC571 | why is everyone upgrading alsa? | 09:58 |
WMCoolmon | cafuego: yes. i have an audigy 2 nx, and support is supposedly much better in 1.0.9 | 09:58 |
cafuego | IceDC571: It's newer gotta be better lolol | 09:58 |
asad2005 | scroolkeeperupdate error while loading shared libraries: libxsl.so.1 | 09:58 |
Jesse1 | lol | 09:58 |
bob2 | WMCoolmon: you don't build modules against the kernel source, you build them against the kernel headers | 09:59 |
WMCoolmon | ahh... | 09:59 |
bob2 | WMCoolmon: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) | 09:59 |
cafuego | WMCoolmon: There are alsa 1.0.9 packages in breezy; down,oad those manually and install them using dpkg. | 09:59 |
cafuego | !info alsa-utils breezy | 09:59 |
cafuego | (just checking) | 09:59 |
ubotu | alsa-utils: (ALSA utilities), section sound, is important. Version: 1.0.9a-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 995 kB, Installed size: 1748 kB | 09:59 |
asad2005 | bob2, scrollkeeper-update: error while loading shared libraries: libxslt.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 10:00 |
cafuego | Yes, there you go,. No need for inelegant, unpackaged, stupid idea tarball installs. | 10:00 |
bob2 | asad2005: something has trashed your disk | 10:00 |
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asad2005 | bob2 how to recover | 10:00 |
bob2 | are the alsa problems people have really caused by the userland tools, tho, and not the drivers themselves? | 10:00 |
Jesse1 | any1 know where i can get the windows media 10 codecs? | 10:01 |
WMCoolmon | cafuego: sorry, where are breezy files? | 10:01 |
cafuego | WMCoolmon: In pool/ with everything else. | 10:01 |
bob2 | asad2005: sudo apt-get --reinstall install libxslt1.1 | 10:01 |
ogge | how can I get a list (probalby in terminal) of what applications, window manager, and system (software) I got installed on my ubuntu hoary partition. | 10:01 |
bob2 | WMCoolmon: searching for the package on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ will give you a download link | 10:01 |
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bob2 | ogge: dpkg -l | grep \^ii | 10:01 |
bob2 | ogge: that will list all fully installed packages | 10:01 |
cafuego | bob2: Supposedly the userland tools fix some incompatibilies, yes. With 2.6.12 and 1.0.8 on the mac mini i couldn't adjust the volume. With 2.6.12 and 1.0.9a I could. | 10:02 |
ogge | thats crasy :) | 10:02 |
ogge | thans | 10:02 |
ogge | x | 10:02 |
IceDC571 | i cant wait for gnome 3 | 10:02 |
cafuego | IceDC571: It's newer gotta be better lolol | 10:02 |
IceDC571 | cafuego: exactly. | 10:02 |
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IceDC571 | if she's a new gf shes gotta be better | 10:03 |
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ogge | How can you define a library? | 10:03 |
asad2005 | bob2, apt-get gives gnome-gv removal apriority and stops with same error | 10:03 |
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Jesse1 | whats a good theme for gnome? | 10:03 |
IceDC571 | Jesse1: www.gnomelook.org | 10:04 |
hardcampa- | Jesse1 that's a bit objective | 10:04 |
IceDC571 | i would search in the highest rated category | 10:04 |
hardcampa- | http://art.gnome.org | 10:04 |
ogge | for example; Mesa 3D graphics library [X.Org] | 10:04 |
IceDC571 | yeah thats a good site too | 10:04 |
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WMCoolmon | cafuego: will upgrading libc from 2.3.2 to 2.3.4 mess up my system? | 10:08 |
WMCoolmon | cafuego: apparently libasound and other alsa packages from breezy depend on that | 10:09 |
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viork | Bluetooth nokia 6230 Blaez gnome Bluetooth web?????????????? help help | 10:10 |
viork | Bluetooth nokia 6230 Blaez gnome Bluetooth web?????????????? help help | 10:10 |
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asad2005 | bob2, Do I have to reinstall just because of a broken package | 10:12 |
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xliu | hi, what is the difference between "the group which the file belongs to" and the "file owner"? thanks | 10:13 |
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skaller | can someone confirm these keys please? pub 1024D/437D05B5 2004-09-12 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> | 10:15 |
skaller | sub 2048g/79164387 2004-09-12 | 10:15 |
skaller | i'm getting authentication failure on every package download | 10:16 |
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ogge | will ubuntu hoary automaticly detect WLAN on a ibm thinkpad? | 10:19 |
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lampshade | silly question, if I take some of the commands from the little black boxes on the ubuntu guide, throw them in a file with #!/bin/bash at the top, will bash do all of the commands in the proper order nice and neat? | 10:20 |
amirse | what can i use as a graphical front-end to scp between machines? | 10:20 |
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thenuke | lampshade: I would think so yes. | 10:22 |
thenuke | lampshade: why dont you just try :) | 10:22 |
resiak | amirse: Nautilus? Konqueror? | 10:22 |
thenuke | lampshade: chmod o+x gives owner permission to execute that | 10:22 |
monchichi | amirse: gftp has great ssh support too | 10:23 |
amirse | thanks | 10:23 |
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lampshade | thenuke, I was just afraid that like, I don't know, bash would start the next command before the previous command was done and that would screw things up | 10:25 |
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monchichi | lampshade: a line break in bash is equivalent to ; | 10:27 |
monchichi | it will wait until the prior line is finished :) | 10:27 |
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ogge | my ubuntu hoary with xfce4 feels a little bit sloggish, is there anything I can do about it? dma is ON. | 10:28 |
monchichi | ogge: what kernel are you using? | 10:29 |
ogge | what linux kernel version? | 10:29 |
monchichi | yeah | 10:29 |
ogge | I dont know really, is there anyway I can check it | 10:29 |
monchichi | yeah | 10:29 |
monchichi | uname -a | 10:29 |
ogge | Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Jun 7 08:26:42 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux | 10:30 |
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ogge | my processor is a celeron (coppermine) 700mz. 128mbyte ram. | 10:30 |
ogge | laptop. | 10:30 |
monchichi | ah. you were asking about this last night, no? | 10:32 |
ogge | yep. | 10:32 |
monchichi | what exactly is sluggish? | 10:32 |
ogge | now I know dma is on :) | 10:32 |
ogge | when minimize windows, resizeing windows. | 10:32 |
ogge | when surfing firefox. | 10:32 |
KhaBal | anyone know how to install nvidia 32 bit onto ubuntu? | 10:32 |
KhaBal | http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7667.html is this the right site? | 10:33 |
monchichi | khabal: yea, but its best to install the ubuntu debs | 10:33 |
monchichi | which arent 7667 yet unfortunetly | 10:33 |
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ogge | maybe its just me, being a little bit fastidious. | 10:33 |
monchichi | ogge, run gnome-system-monitor in a terminal and see whats eating up memory and/or cpu | 10:33 |
KhaBal | mochichi: how do i do it ? | 10:34 |
ogge | monchichi, I dont run gnome. | 10:34 |
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monchichi | you can still run system monitor | 10:34 |
WMCoolmon | i tried installing the alsa packages from breezy, but alsa still registers as 1.0.6 in /proc/asound/version | 10:34 |
ogge | bash: gnome-system-monitor: command not found | 10:34 |
WMCoolmon | the mixer is version 9 tho | 10:34 |
KhaBal | monchichi: is it possible to install nvidia 32 driver by apt-get ?? | 10:34 |
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KhaBal | or do i have to do it step by step like on this site http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7667.html | 10:35 |
monchichi | emcoolmon, thats the kernel module thats 1.0.6 | 10:35 |
monchichi | khabal: you can do it with apt-get or synaptic | 10:35 |
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KhaBal | monchichi: hmm | 10:35 |
monchichi | you just have to add universe or multiverse | 10:35 |
monchichi | and install linux-restricted-packages | 10:36 |
monchichi | do a sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx and see what happens | 10:36 |
ogge | monchichi > bash: gnome-system-monitor: command not found | 10:36 |
monchichi | ogge.. apt-get install gnome-system-monitor | 10:36 |
KhaBal | respositiries? | 10:37 |
monchichi | ogge, or apt-get install top | 10:37 |
KhaBal | do i add it in through there? | 10:37 |
ubuntu_ | how do i get both my monitors working? | 10:37 |
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monchichi | khabal: huh? | 10:37 |
KhaBal | monchichi: you said by synaptic | 10:37 |
monchichi | ogge, or apt-get install top | 10:37 |
SOLos | Hi, I have just filled free ship form. I'm interested how long will it last until I got CD's ? | 10:37 |
KhaBal | will it be in there already, or do you do it by going to respositiries | 10:37 |
monchichi | top is a text based process monitor | 10:38 |
WMCoolmon | how would i go about getting the 1.0.9 kernel module? | 10:38 |
WMCoolmon | will i need to grab the alsa-source package as well? | 10:38 |
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KhaBal | monchichi: yes its allready there | 10:38 |
monchichi | wmcoolmon: i wouldnt recommend it | 10:38 |
monchichi | khabal: then install it ;) | 10:39 |
KhaBal | do i download nvidia glx and nvidia dev? | 10:39 |
KhaBal | all of whats there? | 10:39 |
monchichi | download nvidia everything, and it will also install some kernel stuff | 10:39 |
WMCoolmon | monchichi: is there any other way to install alsa 1.0.9, then? if it's an issue of breezy being different from hoary, i've ended up installing a number of breezy packages to get the other stuff working | 10:39 |
monchichi | wmcoolmon: i dont really know..? you could try compiling the modules from source, or you could upgrade your kernel to 2.6.12 or something | 10:40 |
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ogge | monchichi, thank you. is there any way I can copy all text in top? | 10:41 |
KhaBal | monchichi: im sure you have to download all of them. nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-dev nvidia-kernel-source nvidia settings | 10:42 |
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monchichi | khabal, yeah, not all necessary but very useful | 10:42 |
KhaBal | ok | 10:42 |
MorphDK | hey.. shouldn't totem use the same codecs as xine? | 10:42 |
monchichi | nvidia-settings is useful little program | 10:42 |
monchichi | theres two different totem backends | 10:43 |
monchichi | totem-gstreamer and totem-xine | 10:43 |
MorphDK | I can play everything in Xine-UI but nothing in totem.. :( | 10:43 |
ogge | I did it. | 10:43 |
ogge | check out my "top" - anything looking suspicious? | 10:43 |
ogge | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/278 | 10:43 |
monchichi | totem-gstreamer is installed by default | 10:43 |
MorphDK | monchichi, so what I'm looking for is totem-xine? | 10:43 |
WMCoolmon | monchichi: might as well, i suppose :p | 10:43 |
monchichi | sudo apt-get install totem-xine | 10:43 |
MorphDK | monchichi, i figured that out ;) | 10:43 |
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MorphDK | monchichi, ah.. then it removes the gstreamer backend.. nice | 10:44 |
monchichi | ;) | 10:44 |
MorphDK | mjr, can you play avi, wmv, mov etc? | 10:44 |
monchichi | ogge, hold on a sec | 10:44 |
ogge | monchichi, yep. | 10:44 |
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MorphDK | monchichi, nice, that did the trick.. thank you | 10:45 |
monchichi | ogge, when in top, hit F then n then return | 10:45 |
monchichi | np | 10:45 |
ubuntux | Hi everbody... | 10:46 |
KhaBal | monchichi: while its installing dont you meant to turn off everything your running? | 10:46 |
monchichi | it will sort the processes by memory use | 10:46 |
KhaBal | synaptic makes life so easier :) | 10:46 |
monchichi | khabal... no.. this isnt microsoft here | 10:46 |
monchichi | just let it do its thing then reboot | 10:47 |
KhaBal | ok :) | 10:47 |
ubuntux | I already install ubuntu in my computer. but i don't know how to change root password? any body can help me? | 10:47 |
KhaBal | i forgot how to | 10:47 |
monchichi | ubuntux: sudo passwd | 10:47 |
KhaBal | i used to know | 10:47 |
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KhaBal | monchichi: how many years have you been with linux? | 10:47 |
Choubaka | reboot? | 10:47 |
Choubaka | is KhaBal installing a kernel? | 10:47 |
monchichi | about 9 | 10:48 |
KhaBal | no my driver | 10:48 |
Choubaka | what driver? | 10:48 |
KhaBal | nvidia | 10:48 |
monchichi | 9 years that is | 10:48 |
ubuntux | i have install webmin by apt-get install webmin and it be done. | 10:48 |
Choubaka | It does not require a reboot :/ | 10:48 |
monchichi | ok, restart your x server then | 10:48 |
monchichi | ;P | 10:48 |
KhaBal | monchichi: do you use debian as well? | 10:48 |
KhaBal | monchichi: what other distributions do you use? | 10:48 |
Choubaka | well, reboot is simplest, but not necessary. | 10:48 |
ubuntux | how to use webmin if i don't know root password? | 10:48 |
monchichi | naw.. ubuntu is actually my first debian experience.. i used slackware and suse back in the day | 10:49 |
black-whisp | ubuntux: to make a root password type sudo passwd | 10:49 |
KhaBal | slackwares hard suse is just too easy | 10:49 |
monchichi | ubuntux: set your root password by running "sudo passwd" in a terminal | 10:49 |
KhaBal | lol | 10:49 |
ubuntux | Ok monchichi I'll try... | 10:49 |
KhaBal | im a newb but not a complete newb, i know what im doing | 10:49 |
monchichi | suse used to be hard too... EVERYTHING used to be hard.. | 10:49 |
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KhaBal | now its easy | 10:50 |
KhaBal | just use that yast2 thing | 10:50 |
nikkia | monchichi: you're lucky | 10:50 |
monchichi | yea | 10:50 |
monchichi | whys that nikkia? | 10:50 |
nikkia | monchichi: you missed the days where if you wanted X you compiled it yourself :P | 10:50 |
KhaBal | its just like windows | 10:50 |
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Deanodriver | hi | 10:50 |
KhaBal | fedora is pretty much windows | 10:50 |
KhaBal | gentoo is the best distribution | 10:50 |
KhaBal | and the hardest, | 10:51 |
monchichi | lol, its true nikkia, but it was still a bitch to get video cards to play nice | 10:51 |
KhaBal | i tried it you have to download all the parts and all the programs you want before installing | 10:51 |
nikkia | monchichi: yeah, unless you planned ahead and bought a card that was known to work | 10:51 |
ubuntux | Ok thanks monchichi. It is first time i use debian like. | 10:51 |
ubuntux | so i no familiar with debian command. | 10:51 |
KhaBal | hows debian? same thing has ubuntu? | 10:51 |
MorphDK | I'm still looking for NetworkManager for Ubuntu.. Anybody got it working? | 10:51 |
KhaBal | should i try debian? | 10:51 |
monchichi | planned ahead? what does that mean | 10:51 |
Deanodriver | does anyone know how to set a filesystem to automount in /etc/fstab, and have read+write access by a certain user? | 10:51 |
nikkia | monchichi: back then, there was none of this 'oh no, gotta have amazing 3d performance' so you just bought whichever 512k or 1MB card worked best with what you wanted to do :) | 10:51 |
monchichi | why, when i was a kid... | 10:52 |
nikkia | the only video card i remember having problems with X with, was, a Diamond Speedstar 24, whcih was a (at the time) brand new version of the ET4000 chipset | 10:52 |
KhaBal | BTW how old are you guys? | 10:52 |
Deanodriver | if it's a fat32 partition on the drive? | 10:52 |
monchichi | my 486 50mhz was the shit | 10:52 |
KhaBal | lol | 10:52 |
KhaBal | 50 mhz | 10:52 |
monchichi | 23 years | 10:53 |
nikkia | khabal, don't knock it | 10:53 |
Deanodriver | (i'd format it to ext3, but I sometimes remove the hdd and put it in windows PC's | 10:53 |
Deanodriver | 20 | 10:53 |
nikkia | the 486-50 was usually faster than the 486-66 if you got the right 486-50 | 10:53 |
Deanodriver | :p | 10:53 |
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KhaBal | monchichi: what year old did you start linux? | 10:53 |
black-whisp | Deanodriver: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountfat | 10:53 |
ogge | 19 years | 10:53 |
monchichi | i dont know what year... about the same time windows 95 came out | 10:53 |
nikkia | KhaBal: i started using linux in 1992 | 10:54 |
KhaBal | im 15 years old | 10:54 |
KhaBal | brb | 10:54 |
nikkia | version 0.13 | 10:54 |
monchichi | i guess 1995 | 10:54 |
MorphDK | 21 | 10:54 |
KhaBal | can you get a job with linux? | 10:54 |
Deanodriver | black-whisp, thanks, but I want it to automount on bootup (hence why I wanted to know how to do it in /etc/fstab | 10:54 |
MorphDK | KhaBal, I did :) | 10:54 |
monchichi | khabal, of course you can | 10:54 |
KhaBal | wow | 10:54 |
monchichi | or you can sysadmin | 10:54 |
KhaBal | i cant wait then | 10:54 |
black-whisp | Deanodriver: it's there- ;) the fstab thing you want | 10:54 |
Deanodriver | ok, thanks :) | 10:54 |
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KhaBal | brb guys eating | 10:54 |
emilio | buenas | 10:55 |
emilio | algun espaol en la web | 10:55 |
emilio | ? | 10:55 |
monchichi | i got paid $300 to set up a suse enterprise/openexchange server today | 10:55 |
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monchichi | and it was fun! | 10:55 |
monchichi | no espanol aqui | 10:55 |
monchichi | es posible hay un poquito | 10:55 |
mo_bu | Does anybody know if there's any proper support for Toshiba A60 laptops yet? I've looked on the web but from what I can see a lot of the Toshiba stuff is outdated. | 10:55 |
emilio | ok | 10:56 |
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ogge | monchichi, oh my gosh. you got your own company? | 10:56 |
monchichi | i love the warnings about breezy everywhere and how much i ignore them | 10:56 |
monchichi | ogge: yeah man, im self employed | 10:57 |
black-whisp | is fdisk availble thrue the terminal? | 10:57 |
monchichi | everyone needs computer work | 10:57 |
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ubuntu_ | yes fdisk availble thrue the terminal | 10:58 |
Nermal | well duh | 10:59 |
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ubuntu_ | how do i get both my monitors working? | 10:59 |
Nermal | in X? | 10:59 |
Nermal | edit your xorg.conf | 10:59 |
ubuntu_ | do i just download some nvidia drivers or what? | 10:59 |
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ubuntu_ | what do i edit? | 10:59 |
Nermal | edit your xorg.conf | 10:59 |
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mattyJ | what filesystem does ubuntu use by default? | 11:00 |
Nermal | erm.. none really | 11:00 |
Nermal | ubuntu_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20128 *spoon feed* | 11:00 |
mattyJ | when you do auto partition what one does it use | 11:00 |
Nermal | erm... reiser I imagine | 11:01 |
Nermal | maybe ext3 for boot | 11:01 |
ubuntu_ | how do i find xorg.conf? | 11:01 |
Nermal | oh for fucks sake | 11:01 |
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Nermal | /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 11:01 |
ubuntu_ | ta | 11:01 |
Nermal | or locate xorg.conf | 11:01 |
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Nermal | leaving due to vast numbers of cretins and n00bs | 11:02 |
ubuntu_ | just wanted 2 know where it was | 11:02 |
Nermal | shame this channel has gone downhill | 11:02 |
ubuntu_ | i'm a complete noob | 11:02 |
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sjoerd | mattyJ: ext3 by default when doing auto partitioning | 11:02 |
Poromies | pfooh, got breezy installed | 11:02 |
mattyJ | sjoerd: for the "/" partition? im in windows right now and i need to backup some files, trying to get this to work so i can read the filesystem | 11:02 |
monchichi | nermal, i think its great that so many people are switching to ubuntu | 11:03 |
sjoerd | mattyJ: yep | 11:03 |
monchichi | or linux in general | 11:03 |
monchichi | try to help out where i can | 11:03 |
monchichi | you were a noob once too | 11:03 |
mattyJ | nermal already left, and ya, no reason to get mad about people asking questions, we are not all born with this stuff in our head | 11:04 |
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Amaranth | hey, he said he didn't want to be here :D | 11:04 |
Amaranth | ...just kidding | 11:04 |
MorphDK | too bad.. | 11:04 |
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peterretief | if you dont want to help someone just keep quiet - or what? | 11:05 |
monchichi | oh woops, the logout color blends with my background | 11:05 |
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black-whisp | hehe.. monchichi.. | 11:06 |
monchichi | im always ranting at people who arent even there ;) | 11:07 |
black-whisp | thats the way you get the least arguments back. ;) | 11:07 |
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MorphDK | nice ;) | 11:08 |
ogge | my usb (1.0) wired optical logitech hungs up it self sometimes. freezes. any1 other got experienced this? | 11:08 |
monchichi | ogge, nope | 11:08 |
black-whisp | monchichi: just a shame that i dont have enough experience to help people.. ;) hehe would mess more than help. :P | 11:09 |
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ogge | still the stickpin works when usb mouse freezes. strange.. | 11:09 |
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WMCoolmon | well, looks like the new kernel doesn't help: not only does video quit, but the soundcard issues with the A2NX weren't fixed. Although they may have been fixed in the final ver and not the release candidate | 11:10 |
WMCoolmon | so, new question: why is x-chat not remembering my username? | 11:10 |
monchichi | ogge, run "cat /var/log/syslog | grep usb" and see what it gives you | 11:10 |
KhaBal | back | 11:11 |
WMCoolmon | i remember it used to...and it's getting late, so this will be my last question | 11:11 |
KhaBal | anyone still here? | 11:11 |
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monchichi | wmcoolman, the video probably quits becase youre using the nvidia driver.. and it hasnt been released for 2.6.12 yet | 11:11 |
ogge | monchichi, Ill try it out. | 11:11 |
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KhaBal | monchichi: if i wanted a linux job what will i need from school | 11:11 |
WMCoolmon | monchichi: yeah, since the .12 kernel doesn't offer me anything for now i'm sticking with the .10 | 11:11 |
monchichi | black-whisp: just wanting to help is good enough, rather than wanting to be the ke3l l33t hax0r gaosho 0WN3r of the n3t | 11:12 |
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KhaBal | lol | 11:13 |
monchichi | khabal: it depends what you want to do | 11:13 |
WMCoolmon | so no clue why my username in x-chat keeps resetting itself? | 11:13 |
black-whisp | monchichi: hehe.. ;).. | 11:13 |
Poromies | uuuh, finally got this thing working! | 11:13 |
KhaBal | monchichi: what can you do on linux as a job? | 11:13 |
KhaBal | programming? | 11:13 |
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KhaBal | scripting? | 11:13 |
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monchichi | emcoolmon: no idea :/... try rm -r ~/.xchat and starting from scratch | 11:13 |
Poromies | took me mad trying for couple of days.. my hardware-clock was going 2.4x normal speed/time | 11:13 |
Poromies | phew | 11:13 |
WMCoolmon | monchichi: k, brb | 11:13 |
Poromies | finaly, yes! | 11:14 |
KhaBal | my CPU speed is 100% | 11:14 |
KhaBal | something using it up alot by dont know what | 11:14 |
monchichi | khabal: you could just teach yourself with some books if you want | 11:14 |
mo_bu | Sorry guys. Had to restart system. Anyway, as before if anyone knows anything about supporting Toshiba A60 laptops under Ubuntu Hoary 5.04 let me know. I'm away from my computer (in the office) but any info would be helpful. Thanks. | 11:14 |
KhaBal | monchichi: if you learnt alot about linux what will that help in getting a job? | 11:14 |
erbel | i'm unable to mount certain partitions on boot, using hoary, upgraded to kernel 2.6.12.1. my HDD w/ the boot partitions (including NTFS and VFAT) mount fine is SATA. the drive w/ partitions not automounting is PATA. i've tried creating an S99 personal mount 'script' but says the device /dev/hdaX does not exist. when i do a mount -a after i login, it mount fine though. is there any way to fix this without reverting to the old kernel? | 11:14 |
mo_bu | Specifically I'm looking at power management for CPU and LCD. I've got sound working fine. | 11:14 |
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Poromies | anyone else had this mad clock-problem with 64bit Linux, that makes your systemclock tick twice the normal speed? | 11:14 |
ogge | mo_bu, dont know if ubuntu supports toshiba A60. But mine Toshiba Satellite 1700 (or something) works great. All hardware supported. | 11:15 |
KhaBal | monchichi: usually all you worry about now is school then when u get to uni or whatever then you start worrying about your job dont you? | 11:15 |
synd | new iTunes is out (for all you OS X users) | 11:15 |
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WMCoolmon | monchichi: x-chat seems to have had its amnesia cured, thanks :) | 11:15 |
monchichi | monchichi: thats what some people do.. i majored in biology at uni for some reason, got bored in computer classes cause i already new most of it | 11:16 |
KhaBal | lol | 11:16 |
Losty | What's the password for the default user on a Ubuntu livecd? | 11:16 |
Losty | I want to do su operations but can't | 11:16 |
KhaBal | i want a linux job that gets you a reasonable amount of money | 11:16 |
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WMCoolmon | thanks to everyone who helped :) | 11:17 |
KhaBal | im in year10 i think i need really high maths thats about it | 11:17 |
KhaBal | monchichi: whats your job admins? | 11:17 |
Losty | anybody have help for me? | 11:18 |
monchichi | khabal: mostly just administering networks for businesses | 11:18 |
KhaBal | linux/ | 11:18 |
KhaBal | can you like work for a company | 11:18 |
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monchichi | sometimes i get to do something fun with linux, | 11:18 |
MorphDK | KhaBal, yes | 11:18 |
mo_bu | ogge, Ubuntu runs fine with my system and recognises pretty much everything and battery lasts OK but because I can't control LCD brightness it sometimes eats power when I don't need it too. Also suspend to RAM/Disk does not work at all. | 11:18 |
KhaBal | i dont know if theres one in australia/melbourne | 11:19 |
monchichi | yeah, ive been offered permanent sysadmin jobs but id rather not have a boss.. | 11:19 |
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mo_bu | ogge, Thanks for the help anyway | 11:19 |
aleck | hello! | 11:19 |
ogge | How can I view unused disk space? | 11:19 |
ogge | mo_bu. its ok! | 11:19 |
KhaBal | can u show me some examples with jobs in linux? | 11:20 |
aleck | could anyone help me with installing ubuntu? | 11:20 |
KhaBal | scripting, programming, networking? | 11:20 |
KhaBal | aleck, its simple | 11:20 |
MorphDK | ogge, df -H ? | 11:20 |
ogge | aleck. what type of install do you want? | 11:20 |
Maz | I was not able to add a user during install, could someone show me his sudoers file, or the script that make user privileged user ? | 11:20 |
ogge | thans morph. | 11:20 |
MorphDK | np | 11:20 |
aleck | i have XP and was wondering whether i could install on top of it and not lose my mp3's and movie files and most of all photoshop files | 11:20 |
KhaBal | http://www.linux.org.au/jobs/ :) | 11:21 |
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monchichi | aleck if you have enough diskspace, np | 11:21 |
MorphDK | argH! | 11:21 |
aleck | and if i happen not to like ubuntu could i reverse the installation? | 11:21 |
erbel | i'm unable to mount certain partitions on boot, using ubuntu 5.04, upgraded to kernel 2.6.12.1. my HDD w/ the boot partitions (including NTFS and VFAT) mount fine is SATA. the drive w/ partitions not automounting is PATA. i've tried creating an S99 personal mount 'script' but says the device /dev/hdaX does not exist. when i do a mount -a after i login, it mounts fine though. is there any way to fix this without reverting to the old kernel? | 11:21 |
MorphDK | i can't upgrade my firefox.. | 11:21 |
KhaBal | ohhh | 11:21 |
KhaBal | part time debian linux sys adm | 11:21 |
ogge | oh my god, Just discovered dragging windows to the right puts it in the next desktopspace. So sweet :D | 11:21 |
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KhaBal | theres a job up for grabs in austrlia "part time debian linux sys adm" | 11:22 |
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monchichi | morphdk.. use the ubuntu backports to update firefox | 11:22 |
Losty | How do I authenticate for su, when I'm running from a livecd and haven't configured any users? | 11:22 |
monchichi | http://backports.ubuntuforums.org | 11:22 |
monchichi | run sudo passwd in a terminal and set a root password | 11:23 |
ogge | How do I fast switch to next desktopspace | 11:23 |
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MorphDK | monchichi, it tells me to to a dist-upgrade.. isn't that bad? | 11:23 |
monchichi | khabal: there ya go, perfect :) | 11:23 |
monchichi | ctrl+shift+right arrow | 11:23 |
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ogge | didnt work. but ctrl + alt did :) | 11:24 |
Losty | monchichi, excellent. Thanks. | 11:24 |
KhaBal | monchichi: are these jobs, training first? or do you go straight into it? | 11:24 |
MorphDK | monchichi, it says "The following packages have been kept back: mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support" when I do an apt-get upgrade | 11:24 |
monchichi | ah | 11:24 |
Amaranth | MorphDK: Are you upgrading to breezy? | 11:24 |
MorphDK | Amaranth, no, i don't want to | 11:24 |
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monchichi | do apt-get install mozilla-firefox and what happens? | 11:25 |
Poromies | anyone using badger? what is the Backports adres to put into the sources.list please, same as with hoary? | 11:25 |
ogge | maan, think its such a delay in here. where is this freenode server located? | 11:25 |
Amaranth | Poromies: breezy doesn't have backports, backports come from breezy | 11:25 |
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MorphDK | monchichi, it tells me the updates for mozilla-firefox has been kept back | 11:25 |
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monchichi | im using breezy, but theres no backports | 11:25 |
Amaranth | ogge: depends on which one you're on | 11:25 |
Poromies | ach, thanks | 11:25 |
MorphDK | monchichi, and i'm already using backports in my sources.list | 11:25 |
monchichi | morphdk, idk, check the forums | 11:25 |
Amaranth | ogge: some are in the US and i think 2 or 3 are in EU | 11:25 |
ogge | isnt there only one freenodeserver | 11:26 |
Amaranth | no | 11:26 |
ogge | oh ok | 11:26 |
Amaranth | there are 7, iirc | 11:26 |
Amaranth | it's a network | 11:26 |
Losty | Is it at all possible to mount HFS+ drives from Ubuntu? Mount seems to not support that filesystem | 11:26 |
Amaranth | Losty: Last I heard HFS+ support was highly experimental and not included in any distro | 11:27 |
monchichi | losty, theres an hfsplus kernel module floating around that works pretty well | 11:27 |
ubuntu_ | how do i get 2 monitors haappening?? | 11:27 |
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Losty | damn | 11:28 |
nikkia | monchichi: the modules are there | 11:28 |
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Losty | I'm just booting from a livecd on my powerbook and I want to manage my partitions | 11:28 |
ubuntu_ | same | 11:28 |
ubuntu_ | i got an old lilo i want to get rid of | 11:29 |
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ubuntu_ | so i can install ubuntu | 11:29 |
nikkia | losty, did the partition table get reported correctly? | 11:29 |
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jino | can i install rpm files on ubuntu | 11:29 |
nikkia | losty, the usual problem with mac disks is that apple use a different partition scheme to everyone else | 11:29 |
Losty | nikkia, itk | 11:29 |
SliderMan | how do i oopen bin files? | 11:29 |
Losty | idk* | 11:29 |
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nikkia | losty, look at the dmesg output and see if the partitions look right :) | 11:30 |
Amaranth | jino: That depends, you can try to run alien on it. | 11:30 |
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