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SeveaskorCZiz, make-kpkg --initrd12:00
Seveasread manpages...12:00
cavediverBreezy is great !! :)12:00
nalioth!breezy12:00
ubotuBreezy is due for release in October 2005  If you need to ask if it can be used yet, you shouldn't use it (X is broken, and other important packages could be too)12:00
delirexryy: hehe i lived in sweden for a while. i just need to ask another person a Q before answering.12:00
SeveaskorCZiz, and even then, you should use mkinitrd instead of mkcramfs...12:00
remyforbes777ubotu: ahhhhhhhhhh thanks12:00
uboturemyforbes777: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?12:00
naliothremyforbes777: psssst ubotu is a robot12:01
_zerocan anyone help me with problems with my sound... (aka i've got no output it seems)12:01
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Seveas_zero, do you hear the system sounds (like the drumming when you get the login screen)?12:01
_zeronopers12:01
_zeroSorry, no I don't Seveas12:01
Seveas_zero, does /dev/dsp exist?12:01
_zeroSeveas - yeah - and am using kubuntu btw12:02
IFRFLYRSeveas, back up: gdm is running but not xorg :(12:02
korCZizSeveas: how i said many time before mkinitrd is not working12:02
neighborleeSeveas, oh btw I forgot to mention..XP is fine..no crashes I dont think but then my time spent in it is slashed compared to linux.but im usually in xp for a day stretch or so and over months use I dont see crashing so I dont suspect nvidia 3d which I  have in xp as well..then again who knows..im not sure anyone does yet..it seems to effect other distros too SHRUG12:02
_zerozero@omikani:~$ ls -la /dev/dsp12:02
_zerocrw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 3 2005-06-27 21:00 /dev/dsp12:02
SeveasIFRFLYR, any clues from /var/log/xorg.0.log?12:02
korCZizSeveas: mknitrd dont produce ANY output12:02
delireSeveas: i don't use gnome, a guy here has an odd gnome related error (though not terminal) where 'line 1760 of gconf-editor references an alternative version of libesd-alsa0 (i think - it's in norweigen). can he purge gconf-editor and reinstall it?12:02
IFRFLYRAh, one sec12:02
delirekorCZiz: mkinitrd is broken12:02
Seveas_zero, do you perhaps have multiple soundcards (like an onboard one and a real one)?12:02
delirekorCZiz: it's broken here also, happened after a recent upgrade12:02
korCZizdelire: yes it is and i have red it on net12:02
Seveasneighborlee, the winxp nvidia driver is much better supported than the linux nvidia driver unfortunately12:03
=== delire notes korCZiz and I can both confirm mkinitrd is broken as of a recent version.
_zeroSeveas - I'll check - I dont think so... /me gets on hands and knees12:03
IFRFLYRSeveas: maybe this is a clue... "/var/log/xorg.0.log: No such file or directory" ?12:03
korCZizdelire: so i NEED mkcramfs to CREATE initrd but i dont know which dir must be passed as one of args..12:03
munkiNeed some help for ACPI , I got a Athlon XP-M 2800+ in my Packard Bell Laptop, and it just overheats and shuts down . Been messing arround with powernowd and acpi , but it just don't seems to work =/12:03
SeveasIFRFLYR, :|12:03
IFRFLYRAgtreed12:03
naliothzyth: are you awake?12:03
concept10Beep Media Player AND XMMS freezes on me when trying to play something.  Any clues anyone?12:03
IFRFLYRer...s/agtreed/agreed12:03
korCZizI NEED NEW KERNEL VERSION12:04
neighborleeSeveas, yeah tis true sadly12:04
SeveaskorCZiz, yoi should file a bug about mkinitrd being broken, or read the manpage for mkcramfs :)12:04
cavediverkorCZiz: why ?12:04
resiakconcept10: Something else is using /dev/dsp?12:04
delirexryy: try 'apt-get install --reinstall gconf-editor'12:04
Seveasconcept10: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound12:04
neighborleeSeveas, I would l hope nvidia is trying to help track this given its closed source :(12:04
concept10resiak, nope12:04
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neighborleeSeveas, I still suspect xorg though12:04
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djm62gah...what security update is this? kernel?12:04
neighborleeSeveas, I never had crashing with warty..not ever12:04
korCZizSeveas: in manpages is not writen which dir must be passed as argument12:04
Seveasneighborlee, try using the nv driver12:04
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neighborleeSeveas, that is simpy not a option.I must have 3d due to game developement12:05
delirekorCZiz: i am in exactly the same boat. i ditched the ramdisk and went for a mono boot.12:05
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korCZizcavediver: because is just one way how to create initrd.img12:05
IFRFLYRSeveas: any other ideas?12:05
xryysame message12:05
SeveaskorCZiz, in the manpage of mkinitrd, it is described how it works...12:05
neighborleeSeveas, but I think friends that use ubuntu dont have crashing..he's using12:05
cavediverkorCZiz: Why not run the kernel you have now ?12:05
neighborleeSeveas, 'nv' I think..shrug at this point I dont know what to do as I really must have 3d enabled ;-))12:05
Seveasneighborlee, I mean just to test it, so you can point out which one is the bad guy on your system12:05
neighborleeSeveas, I must try other combos I guess and try to find what fixes it12:06
delirexryy: jesus! well it's not a terminal error. in fact it's pretty harmless. i have no idea quite why that's happening though. i do see "6 not fully installed or removed." which i believe is where your problem is. this is why i thought 'dpkg --configure -a' would assist. at least a 'apt-get -f install'12:06
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neighborleeSeveas, trouble is its such a random crash I have no idea how long i'd have to use 'nv' just to be sure its not something else..oh well life is grand LOL12:06
auraxanyone here uses kolab2?12:06
Seveaslol neighborlee :)12:06
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Seveasdjm62, you must reboot :p12:07
Seveas(just messing with ya)12:07
delirekorCZiz: i always try to stay a month behind the latest stable kernel.12:07
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Fazerhorray!12:07
neighborleeSeveas, ill consider using 'nv' for a while though to see..test the HELL out of this OS LOL12:07
Fazerawesome, it worked.12:07
IFRFLYRBTW delire, yes, CTRL+ALT+F1 works as expected12:07
delireFazer: hehe grand ;) well done12:07
djm62Seveas: I meant the kernel update...will it popup a warning?12:07
korCZizdelire: maybe good idea12:08
djm62nope :-/12:08
SeveasIFRFLYR, ps aux | grep X shows nothing?12:08
delireIFRFLYR: i would read 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE'12:08
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IFRFLYRSeveas: Correct!12:08
Seveasdelire, no such file :|12:08
IFRFLYRSeveas: except the grep itself12:08
delireSeveas: yikes..12:08
xryydelire: do i have to install ubuntu again?12:08
SeveasIFRFLYR, try /var/log/messages12:08
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Seveasor /var/log/dmesg12:09
xryydelire: i think it happened after i installed java12:09
Seveasmaybe something has been thrown in there12:09
delirexryy: not at all. you just need to configure those 6 packages that haven't been configured properly yet. somehow these were not installed properly.12:09
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IFRFLYRSeveas: Sorry: ps aux | grep xorg shows nothing. grep x shows xscreensaver and x-session manager but no xorg.12:09
delirexryy: hmm12:09
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IFRFLYRChecking demesg12:09
IFRFLYRdmesg12:09
SeveasIFRFLYR, grep X12:09
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Seveaswith capital X12:09
mhzMo9in!12:09
mhzmoin!12:09
Seveasgood evening mhz12:09
mhzevening Mr.Seveas12:10
delirexryy: wait a moment..12:10
zythwoohoo12:10
zythWorld of Warcraft runs at 100% in normal old WIne for me12:10
naliothzyth: great, now on to MS office 200512:10
delirezyth: hmm, what card?12:10
CarlFKhey.. I bet mhz would know what is a "multiseat system"?12:10
zythdelire, GeForce Ti420012:11
IFRFLYRSeveas: /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt712:11
zythnalioth, um ew?12:11
IFRFLYR;)12:11
SeveasIFRFLYR, so X *IS* running...12:11
IFRFLYRWeird, though!12:11
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Seveasyes12:11
IFRFLYRblank screeen, but I do hear the music. . .  .12:11
Seveastry playing with your notebooks external/internal display switch12:11
mhzCarlFK: it happens to be my initials are m.h.z in Chile :)  nothing techier than that12:12
mhz:)12:12
djm62ah, the old mhz myth12:12
IFRFLYRNone i know of Seveas: this notebook just came out of the box from HP and ... wait for it...The display works in windows. .  But also, I can get terminal windows on screens 1-6 and 8-912:12
delirexryy: i want to find all the packages that are a problem currently on your system. do this 'dpkg -C | --audit'12:12
naliothCarlFK: is that a system licenesed for multiple users?12:13
CarlFKmhz - opps.  I was thinking you were mdz... one of the main if not the main Ubuntu dudes12:13
xryybash: --audit: command not found12:13
CarlFKnalioth - if I knew, I wouldn't be asking ;)12:13
mhzAnyone knows of any ubuntu cutomization LiveCD/Installable based on XFCE4 or Fluxbox ??12:13
SeveasIFRFLYR, I suggest you send out an e-mail to ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com, this sounds like a bug to me12:13
mhzCarlFK: np12:13
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djm62isn't multiseat dual-monitor dual keyboard etc12:14
Seveasmhz, check the buntu wikipage12:14
IFRFLYRReally?12:14
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concept10Seveas, thanks - Linux has too many sound protocols (along with everything else)12:14
Seveasdjm62, yes it is12:14
delirexryy: 'dpkg -C'?12:14
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xryydpkg: tolkingsfeil, i fila /var/lib/dpkg/available nr linje 1760 pakken gconf-editor:12:14
ufo-does gweather works on ubuntu for anyone? It doesn't work for me on three different machines..12:15
xryy Depends-felt, referanse til libesd-alsa0: versjon inneholder  12:15
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CarlFKdjm62 - the only thing I can think of is mulit nic because I have both a pci nic (that is detected) and an isa one (3c509, no module loaded, so I don't see how it could see it)12:15
ufo-hoary that is.. sorry12:15
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Seveasxryy, try LC_ALL=C dpkg -C12:15
murphyanyone know a good media player for ubuntu?12:15
SeveasMaybe we can understand the output then12:15
goldfishvlc12:15
dolnyvlcplayer12:15
djm62CarlFK: what's the problem?12:15
dolny:)12:15
goldfish:)12:16
Seveasmurphy, vlc/totem/beep-media-player/mplayer12:16
djm62CarlFK: too far up for me to see12:16
xryydpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1760 package `gconf-editor':12:16
naliothCarlFK: djm62 was correct, a 'multiseat system' is one in which multiple users can log into the same box at the same time and both have their own xserver12:16
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xryy `Depends' field, reference to `libesd-alsa0': version contains ` '12:16
dolnyi can't install enlightement properly on my kubuntu12:16
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Seveasxryy, eeeeeek, sounds like your available file is fubar12:16
murphyI have totem right now, and it won't play ANYTHING!12:16
CarlFKdjm62 - trying to install hoary and get an error dialog  - something about trouble setting up a multiseat system12:16
dolnyno such option in GDM after installation12:16
dolnyif i add it manually Gnome launches instead of E1712:16
dolnythat sux12:16
xryywtf does that mean, Seveas ?12:17
concept10The Gracious Gooseberry release?  does this affect only x86_64 in x86 emulation mode?12:17
dolnymurphy - try vlcplayer12:17
Seveasxryy, try apt-get update12:17
djm62CarlFK: do you have multiple graphics cards (perhaps onboard and additional?)12:17
naliothCarlFK: did you see the ubuntu forums re multiseat?12:17
xryyi did12:17
dolnymurphy: or eventually kaffeine (for kde but great as a default player after installation)12:17
xryyit works fine12:17
dolnyvlcplayer - google iti12:17
dolnyit12:17
naliothconcept10: was that before or after "stinky skunk"?12:17
CarlFKhmm, leme look... could be...12:17
mhzLast week I googled everywhere , unsuccessfully, for a solution to having an iBook run in a different resoltion than 800x640 (which is forced by default and any changes to xorg won't take effect) Any ideas?12:17
ufo-does gweather work on hoary?12:17
Seveasxryy: try dpkg --record-avail -R /var/lib/apt/lists12:17
thingymurphy: have you installed suitable codecs? http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs12:17
naliothCarlFK: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-May/007371.html12:18
concept10nalioth, thats a funny name - when will it end?12:18
naliothmhz: what kind of ibook? mine runs o-o-t-b at 1024x76812:18
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mhzwhite one, 15 inches12:18
CarlFKnalioth - um, cool - but not me.  one keyboard/mouse/video12:18
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naliothconcept10: i'm not the one who started the weird animal version names, look at apple12:18
Seveasxryy, did that work..?12:19
delirexryy: sorry about that, battery died12:19
deliredpkg -C work?12:19
xryydpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1760 package `gconf-editor':12:19
xryy `Depends' field, reference to `libesd-alsa0': version contains ` '12:19
xryyok, delire12:19
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naliothmhz: that's weird, i have a dual-usb white iBook2 G3/600 and my rez defaulted to 1024x76812:19
Seveasxryy, even after dpkg --record-avail?12:19
naliothmhz: have you run the reconfigure thing?12:19
hackeronhow do I edit track preferences in rhythmbox? -- I right click on track, click on properties, see text fields where I'm supposed to edit, but I cant add or change anything...12:19
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mhznalioth: yep, that was 1st thing12:19
naliothmhz: or added settings to your xorg.conf (or whatever it is)12:20
mhznalioth: yep, that was 2nd thing :)12:20
xryySeveas: yes12:20
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lwhow do i check how much ram (free/max) from the console?12:20
Seveasxryy, odd..12:20
delireSeveas: i think he needs to audit the 6 partially configured packages on his system.12:20
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naliothmhz: i have a 3d guess. did you run the reconfigure thing and choose VESA as the driver?12:20
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Seveasdelire, well, a parse error in the available file is not too good either12:20
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delireSeveas: no it's not..12:21
Seveasxryy, another try: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*12:21
mhznalioth: that I have not done yet! THX for that 3r one .)12:21
Seveasand then apt-get update12:21
naliothmhz: the VESA driver will run a dead skunk12:21
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boomer77hi all - i want to create a new user and from the desktop, I select:  System  ;  Administration  ;  Users and groups  ;  and then12:21
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boomer77put in the root user's password and i get an error message12:21
thingyHow does Ubuntu manage send out free cds to anyone who asks? Who bears the cost of media and postage?12:21
boomer77does anyone have any suggestions ?12:21
xryyrm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/partial': Is a directory12:22
Seveasboomer77, it wants *YOUR* passwords12:22
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delirethingy: Canonical12:22
nalioththingy: the sponsor/owner is a bazillionaire12:22
Seveasboomer77: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo12:22
gm78boomer77, enter your user password, not the root password12:22
Seveasxryy, that's ok12:22
lwanyone?12:22
Seveasxryy, try apt-get update now12:22
mhznalioth: "dead shunk" ?12:22
lwhow to check ram from console?12:22
delirelw: top12:22
mhzlw: /proc/12:22
delirelw: or free12:22
gm78thingy, Canonical sponsors Ubuntu, the owner is rich12:22
fatoudmesg12:22
Seveaslw, cat /proc/meminfo12:22
naliothmhz: all modern video cards (way back at least 4 years) are VESA compliant12:22
mhzuh12:23
boomer77i entered the user's password and got "failed to run users-admin Child termeinated with 196 status12:23
naliothmhz: so you can drag out that ancient cirrus card and VESA will run it12:23
xryySeveas: done12:23
boomer77thanks for the url for root/sudo12:23
thingyheh, I chose to download it and save Ubuntu the money!12:23
Seveasboomer77, run sudo users-admin from a normal terminal, what happens?12:23
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Seveasxryy, does dpkg -C still give that error?12:23
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xryyyes12:23
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Seveas:|12:23
delirexryy: wow12:23
boomer77i got asked for a password and i put in my user's password12:24
Seveasxryy, are you using unofficial repositories?12:24
Seveasboomer77, and it worked..?12:24
boomer77and it says username is not in the sudoers file12:24
naliothSeveas: did the bulb just light up?12:24
boomer77and the prompt appeared again12:24
ufo-would someone be kind enough to tell me if gwather works for him in Hoary?12:24
xryySeveas: hm, yes, or, im using the one that's in ubuntuguide.org12:24
Seveasboomer77, then add it to the sudoers file as a user who can (the user created when installing the system can)12:24
Seveasxryy, ubuntuguide.org is bad...12:25
naliothxryy: ubuntuguide will (and has) led you astray12:25
xryyThere someone doh12:25
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xryynow im mad12:25
naliothxryy: hopefully it can be recovered from12:25
boomer77thanks - do I just add the name of the user to the end of the file ?12:25
xryyhm12:25
xryyshould i reinstall ubuntu?12:25
MasterYodaany one in here know anything about the network-manager package in breezy?12:25
Seveasxryy, try: sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/available /var/lib/dpkg/available_old12:25
mhznalioth: thx for the tip, I'll try it on wednesday (when I'll be in front of the machine)12:26
delireSeveas: could he cd into /var/lib/dpkg and mv available available.old?12:26
Seveasxryy, and then apt-get update12:26
Seveasdelire, LOL!!12:26
delirehaha bet me to it12:26
Seveasamazing...12:26
delire;)12:26
SeveasGreat minds DO think alike ;)12:26
naliothmhz: np, i have 2 ibooks (and 0 other machines)12:26
xryySeveas: done12:26
delirehah12:26
Seveasxryy, and, what does dpkg -C say?12:26
mhznalioth: that's why, tehn!12:27
mhzthen12:27
CarlFKoh goodie - it happens in breezy too12:27
xryydpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory12:27
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naliothSeveas: has someone been playing with your tanks EM shield?12:27
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ufo-gweather is not working, not working on my hoary... does anyone have a working gweather in hoary or breezy, whatever...?12:27
Seveasxryy, dpkg --record-avail -R /var/lib/apt/lists12:27
ploddont use hoary!12:27
naliothCarlFK: nomasteryoda knows what he's getting into12:28
IFRFLYRufo- My weather does not work except under gkrellm - that works fine12:28
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xryydpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory12:28
Seveas:|12:28
Seveashang on...12:28
ufo-IFRFLYR, great, let me just catch the gay that develops gweather12:28
ufo-it's not working for months now.. I don't know whats up with that..12:28
naliothSeveas: can xryy 'touch' a  new one?12:28
IFRFLYRNot so fast - it works on my...ahem...gentoo machine :)12:28
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ufo-i had a fc4 installation before this one, and it didn't work there either12:29
IceDC571whats that make command to remove a program? i forget12:29
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ufo-see if there's make uninstal12:29
ufo-l12:29
delireIceDC571: apt-get remove program12:29
xryySeveas and delire: thaks for the help, but i think im reinstalling12:30
ufo-that not make12:30
delireIceDC571: 'dpkg -P program' also12:30
ufo-*'s12:30
naliothIceDC571: you shouldnt need a 'make' command to remove stuff. that depends on the packager including a 'clean' script (which lots don't )12:30
delirexryy: !!12:30
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Seveasxryy, cd /var/lib/dpkg12:30
Seveasxryy, wget http://ubuntu-nl.org/~dennis/available12:30
TatsterHi - can someone help me with a wierd Apache problem on Ubuntu?12:30
Seveasthat is a correct hoary available file12:30
naliothIceDC571: you should use "checkinstall" instead of "make install" so your apt can keep track of your stuff12:30
delireSeveas: good thought..12:30
IceDC571well, i did make install for wine, now i want to remove wine12:30
xryyno, thank you, im just reinstalling12:30
Seveasxryy, your call :)12:30
naliothIceDC571: good luck12:30
delirexryy: this is fixable!12:30
ufo-and apt-get remove wont help..12:30
naliothIceDC571: if you have a "make clean" option in your wine build dir, that would be it12:31
IceDC571okay thanks nalioth12:31
naliothIceDC571: sorry, thats make uninstall12:31
uniqxryy: try 'sudo dselect update' first.12:31
delireIceDC571: for user compiled and installed programs you'll need to 'whereis program' and remove all those files if you don't have a 'make uninstall' option12:31
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naliothIceDC571: and in the future, use "checkinstall" (yes it sux for pkg maintenance, but its just fine for yer local system) instead of "make install"12:32
IceDC571delire: it works :).. damn im lucky they have an uninstall script for wine12:32
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delirehehe12:32
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IceDC571make uninstall only works for the few apps that have an uninstall script im guessing12:33
delireyes12:33
naliothIceDC571: yes corret12:33
unomewhereis! here's  a new one to me, much better than find :)12:33
xryyhm12:33
xryythe dselect update works12:33
xryyno problem anymore12:33
delirehaha12:34
naliothIceDC571: and that depends on the programmer not being lazy (the rule is "no uninstall script", usually)12:34
delireuniq: nice one12:34
murphythanks guys12:34
murphyPeace out12:34
uniqdelire: :)12:34
pressuremhey, is anyone using asterisk pbx on ubuntu?12:34
delireuniq: does that generate a /var/lib/dpkg/available?12:34
uniqdelire: yes.12:34
delireuniq: good tip, cheers12:34
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xryythanks everybody that helped me ;)12:35
Seveasgood old dselect to the rescue12:36
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xryybyebye12:38
xryybut now12:38
xryyi have another question..12:38
xryymy screensaver have a really bad fps, and i think there's something about the drivers, but i cant find any drivers for ati radeon 9600xt i apt12:39
xryyi=in12:39
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delirexryy: you can install the non free-software (but 0$) ATI drivers for that card or use the opensource drivers, though you will miss out on a few Graphical Processing Unit features like 'shaders'12:40
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delirexryy: try 'sudo modprobe radeon'12:41
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lynxxryy12:44
lynxhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto12:44
reisioanybody getting spam from Betty__ ?12:44
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chombeeHello - I wondered if anyone else had found that using gnome-menu-editor and smeg really messes up the GNOME menu in random ways, and if there's any way to reset the gnome menu?12:45
KyralHow do you convert MP3s to OGM?12:45
Seveasreisio, can you paste it to me in private12:45
reisioSeveas: I'm not, someone else was12:46
Seveasreisio, ah12:46
sjmurdochKyral: Do you really want to do that? You will lose quality12:46
reisioSeveas: bant in #gentoo :p12:46
reisiokicked, rather12:46
reisioerm, both :)12:46
chombeeKyral - OGM?12:46
Kyralnah :P12:46
naliothSeveas: do you need a date that badly?12:46
Kyralnm12:46
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Seveasreisio, you mean Betty__ ?12:46
reisioya12:46
Seveasnalioth, lol no :)12:46
root__hi network nooby here. i am trying to network boot  machines from a dhcp server .  when i push f12 on the terminal it says make shure root path is configured ?  anyone know how to configure DHCP12:46
Kyralwhatever open source audio format :D12:46
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reisioogg :p12:47
reisioKyral: get sox12:47
reisioKyral: sox.sf.net12:47
Kyralyah yah yah :D12:47
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sjmurdochKyral: You could convert them to FLAC12:47
CarlFKroot__ - what kind of netboot?12:47
naliothKyral: its best to use oggenc (or other ogg rippeer) straight from the original cd12:47
sjmurdochThey will get bigger though12:47
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KyralI need something that will xfer onto my iPod nicely :D12:47
zooplehello all. need help finding Zinf on my system. how do i run it?12:47
Kyralnalioth: ehhh, I don't HAVE original cds :D12:47
doonzgtkpod12:47
naliothKyral: does your 'pod run linux?12:47
root__dhcp thin client network boot12:47
reisiozoople: ls /usr/bin12:47
Kyralnalioth: Not yet :D12:47
reisiozoople: ls /usr/bin | less, even12:48
zooplek, and what am i looking for?12:48
naliothKyral: well, to my knowlege, the 'pod only plays mp3z and aacs (and im not sure about mp3z)12:48
reisiozoople: the name12:48
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CarlFKroot__ - here is close: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//LocalNetInstall12:48
zoopledoesnt have it there12:48
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Kyralnalioth, it plays MP3s12:49
naliothKyral: so your choices are aac and mp312:49
naliothKyral: until you install linux on the 'pod than you can watch movies on it12:49
reisionalioth: took the words out of my mouth12:49
CarlFKroot__ - what distro are you trying to boot?12:49
reisiozoople: anything in man zinf?12:49
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zoopleno manual entry for Zinf12:50
cafuegoAnd more importantly, why on earth are you IRCing as root?12:50
lsuactiafneranyone here got a static 32bit mplayer binary that supports -vo x11?12:50
KyralOkay, I'm lazy12:50
Seveascafuego, can i talk to you in private for a sec?12:50
root__AWESOME  thanks  thats exactly what i was looking for12:50
cafuegoSeveas: Give me a few moments...12:50
KyralI just made a bash alias for "killall gnome-panel"12:50
naliothKyral: great! now you're addicted (only takes one)12:51
reisioheh12:51
root__ubuntu12:51
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KyralI have a big alias file, want to see? :P12:51
zoopleis there like a FAQ or begginers tutorial i should read?12:51
KyralI made an alias for "mount /media/anime"12:51
CarlFKroot__ - what makes you think you can do it?12:51
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naliothKyral: nah, your aliases are incompatible with my aliases12:52
tiredbonesI used synaptic on a hoary system to install apache2 and php4.I have to say it really is messed up.12:52
delireKyral: my ~/.bashrc is 6 years old. i'd be a criminal to post it here ;)12:52
root__see i just have to make the dhcp server tell the clients what to do properly12:52
naliothzoople: https://wiki.ubuntu.com12:52
Kyrallol12:52
root__because the clients are communicating with the server12:52
tkieseltiredbones: Did you also get libapache2-php4 ?12:52
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zoopleok thanks. maybe i should read that12:52
CarlFKroot__ - um... like I said...12:53
naliothzoople: there is info there to boggle the mind12:53
CarlFKroot__ - what makes you think you can do it?12:53
tiredbonestkiesel, yes12:53
reisiozoople: so "zinf" doesn't run it?12:53
root__because my friend super linux nerd configured it12:53
zooplenope12:53
root__then i wrecked it when i relocated the server12:53
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tkieseltiredbones: What's messed up about it?12:53
zooplewhat directory am i in?12:53
zoople/usr/bin?12:54
root__its looking for 192.168.1.10412:54
reisiozoople: what happens if you run "zinf" in a terminal?12:54
naliothzoople: at the prompt of a terminal, type "pwd"12:54
root__but the server is 192.168.1.10112:54
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zooplebash: zinf: command not found12:54
CarlFKroot__ - hmm.  ok, lets start from the beginning... A is the server, B is a client.  does B pxe net boot?12:54
reisiozoople: hum, what makes you think you installed it?12:54
zooplemaybe i didnt12:54
tiredbonestkiesel, when start the server it's looking for libphp4.so in /etc/apach2/modules/, but12:54
zooplei could have done it wrong12:55
zooplehow do i install it?12:55
root__yes  b  has  F12  network service boot12:55
reisioI'm pretty sure "zinf" is the command12:55
tiredbonesthere in /usr/lib/apache2/modules.12:55
root__theres actually 8  b's12:55
reisiozoople: ask the channel - I don't use Ubuntu12:55
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zoopleoh ok..thanks12:55
CarlFKroot__ - one is enough ;)12:55
reisiozoople: probably apt-get zinf install or something on commandline12:55
zooplehow do i install zinf..channel12:55
naliothzoople: open synaptic and search for zinf12:55
zooplesynaptic?12:55
CarlFKroot__ - is everthing on the same server?12:55
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tkieseltiredbones: Ahhh. Un momento.12:56
CarlFKroot__ - dhcp, tftp, nfs, whatever else12:56
naliothzoople: System > admin > synaptic (at the top left of your screen)12:56
root__no,  theres a windows file server .  and a terminal server12:56
root__which appers to be down12:56
CarlFKroot__ - does that have anything to do with your thin client boot problem?12:56
tiredbonestkiesel, I tried to move libphp4.so to /etc/apache2/modules/ but now other modules can be found.12:56
tkieseltiredbones: Try this in a terminal. Not sure if it'll require sudo or not. Probably. ;)  a2enmod php412:56
root__no  complettly  nothing :P12:56
zooplegot that openm12:57
CarlFKok, so keeping witht he current problem...12:57
CarlFKroot__ - is everthing on the same server?12:57
tiredbonestkiesel, I don't use sudo.12:57
tkieseltiredbones: Root user then. Same difference. ;)12:57
root__yea everything is on the A   terminal server .12:57
Jadugarr84are the mirimax backport servers down or is it just me?12:58
CarlFKroot__ - post your /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf to the paste page.. somneone know the URL?12:58
zoopleok..zinf is not there12:58
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zooplethe only reason why i want is is that my xmms always freezes on me12:59
uniqroot__: the paste pakge is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:59
CarlFKthanks12:59
tkieselCarlFK: It's in the channel topic.12:59
CarlFKoh yeah... duh12:59
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naliothJadugarr84: backports are trouble. up or down01:00
tiredbonestkiesel, after excuting a2enmod php4 I tried apache2  -t and the server is still telling it can find01:00
naliothzoople: do you have universe and multiverse repositorys enabled?01:00
tiredbonesphp4 modules.01:00
reisiozoople: maybe try beep-media-player?01:00
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zooplewhats that01:00
nalioths_dogzoople: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:00
tkieseltiredbones: You said you moved that .so file?  Or did you copy it?  *thinking*01:01
root__kan i  just  change  the  adresses  to what it really is01:01
zoopledo i have beep?01:01
root__everything is set to 104  when it should be 10101:01
naliothzoople: you need to enable universe and multiverse01:01
tiredbonestkiesel, I copy it.01:01
nalioths_dogzoople: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3801:01
CarlFKroot__ - you can do whatever you want, but if you follow our instructions you have a good cance of sucees ;)01:02
reisiobeep-media-player forked from XMMS - it has gtk2 :)01:02
uniqroot__: sure, why not just try? if it fails you can always change back :)01:02
RealmMasterIs there a dual booting windows and ubuntu how-two someone can point me to?01:02
Jadugarr84nevermind the backports are up but really slow today, i think the webpage is down though01:02
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CarlFKroot__ I have a feeling you can delete some lines01:02
Jesse1any1 know where i can get the wm10 codec's from?01:02
root__ok ill post the config file .01:02
tkieseltiredbones: I'm not quite sure then. Have you tried searchign the forums for a clue? 90+% of my problems have been solved that way.  Searchign for the name of that .so file will probably net some results.01:02
CarlFKroot__ - and I would like to see how your bud did it - I didn't think ubuntu supported it01:02
reisioJesse1: win32codecs doesn't handle it?01:03
uniqtiredbones: what's your problem?01:03
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Jesse1reisio, no it lets me play all others bar windows media 1001:03
reisioJesse1: downer :/01:03
CarlFKroot__ - so... please post your /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/01:03
tiredbonesuniq, the apache2 server is trying to find libphp4.so in /etc/apache2/modules/, but01:04
zoopleW: GPG error: http://au.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>01:04
root__http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/26701:04
uniqroot__: yes, change to .10101:04
tiredbonesthat module is in /usr/lib/apache2/moudules/01:04
uniqthat's my suggestion.01:04
CarlFKroot__ - how did the IP of BoxA change from 104 to 101?01:05
tiredboneswhen I copy is over to where apache2 wants it01:05
Jesse1guess no one knows where to get it from :(01:05
tiredbonesI get another php4 module not foound.01:05
naliothRealmMaster: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo01:05
tkieseljesse1: One moment.01:06
tiredbonesIt looks like synaptic is a little confuse.01:06
RealmMasternalioth: thank you =)01:06
pinkoaaxine is better than bad... it's good01:06
root__i moved it from a hub to the router back to the hub01:06
uniqtiredbones: copying shouldn't be necessary01:06
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CarlFKroot__ - um... BoxA should have a static IP.  do you have a 2nd dhcp server other than BoxA?01:07
tkieselJesse1: Tried here? http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html01:07
tiredbonesuniq, ok what do I do to solve this problem?01:07
root__maybe how would i know ?  i have some kinda   loop  protocol ?01:07
tiredbonesuniq, the server can find php4 files.01:08
CarlFKroot__ - what are you callling "the router" ?01:08
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KyralFear me! For I have like 12 torrents lined up to download while i am away!01:08
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root__linksys wireless 8 banger01:08
CarlFKroot__ - I have a feeling the 101/104 problem is just the tip01:08
CarlFKroot__ - default install of the linksys?01:08
root__yea01:08
remyforbes777 /quit01:09
root__he said to me dont  turn this machhine  off.  or move it around .01:09
CarlFKroot__ - yeah.. you need to turn off it's dhcp01:09
uniqtiredbones: how did you install apache and php?01:09
root__oh yah01:09
Jesse1tkiesel, i dont really want to have to download 10 mb if its not in there and im using totem01:09
root__cause its trying to boot from the linksys DHCP01:09
CarlFKroot__ - basicaly.01:09
tiredbonesuniq, I used synaptic on a hoary system.01:09
root__so. its  set to auto  dhcp.   the  other options are  static ,  Ppoe  .   ect             ..01:11
uniqtiredbones: then php should just work.01:11
uniqroot__: look for LAN settings. looks like that is WAN settings.01:11
zoopleargh..zinf freezes too. does linux have a problem with files with spaces?01:11
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Seveaszoople, no01:12
reisiono...01:12
uniqtiredbones: you can try 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall libapache2-mod-php4' in the console.01:12
naliothzoople: yes01:12
Seveasbut badly coded programs might...01:12
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tiredbonesuniq, well, when I enter apache2 -t I get a failure tell met that libphp4.so can not be found.01:12
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CarlFKroot__  once you get the linksys dhcp turned off, I get the feeling that BoxA needs to be given a static IP: 192.168.1.104, but if the linksys is indeed your lan's gateway to the internet, then BoxA, dhcpd.conf,  option routers  192.168.1.1( the linksys's IP?)01:12
revelaterhello01:12
reisiohello01:12
Kyralhello01:12
twistymcgeehi everyone01:12
revelateranyond here know how to change the magic cumbers?01:12
revelaternumbers01:12
revelater:P01:12
tkieselzoople: Yes and no.  Does Linux have a problem with spaces in the filename? No.  Do you need to be careful about spaces in filenames when working in the terminal?  yes.01:13
uniqtiredbones: oh. ok. that's telling you that you've changed sometihng in the config.01:13
tiredbonesuniq, that is why I move libphp4.so to where apchae2 was looking for it.01:13
CarlFKroot__ - I think you need to get your bud on the phone/chat/whatever - im sure we could get you hooked up, but buddy would be able to do it way quicker01:13
root__box A   is  101.  and its configured as 10401:13
root__i didnt adjust the settings on the linksys before .  so  i dont know if i should tamper01:13
CarlFKroot__ - any idea how A chaned from 104 to 101?01:13
revelaterroot__: you shouldn't be running as root :P01:14
root__why ?01:14
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tiredbonesuniq, yes I did. I add a LoadModule directive for php4 as per instructions.01:14
revelaterroot__: its unsecure in irssi01:14
uniqtiredbones: remove it.01:14
revelaterirc01:14
twistymcgeeanyone know how i can get rhythmbox to accept mp3 files?  whenever i try to import a folder all my files are greyed out01:14
root__aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh01:14
uniqtiredbones: remove the bit you added.01:14
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root__ok  bye   thanks for help.   going to fix  my network .  :)01:14
revelaterroot__: just change your nick so its not so obviouse01:14
zoopleok..do i need to install an mp3 plugin01:14
uniqtiredbones: and try apache2 -t again.01:14
root__back  later01:15
CarlFKroot__ - so whate01:15
CarlFKhang.. rats.01:15
KhaBalAnyone have a working souncard C-Media PCI CMI 8738 working?01:15
tiredbonesuniq, One second, I'll give it a shot.01:15
Strifeso, I was a dumb ass and tried to upgrade to breezy... now when I tried to downgrade back to hoary, it decided that gdm shouldn't work, and worse, now I can't even boot01:15
revelateranywho, anybody know how to find the magic numbers of a file and make the system recognze it?01:15
naliothtwistymcgee: have you enabled universe and multiverse?01:15
twistymcgeeyes01:15
Strifebasically, I get a kernel panic because now the kernel doesn't recognize sata, it seems01:15
twistymcgeei followed the instructions on the unofficial howto01:15
tkieselStrife: Downgrading is a hard road to trod, I've been told.01:15
naliothtwistymcgee: installed gstreamer0.8-mad?01:15
CarlFKStrife - no problme.  just install hoary over the top ;)01:15
naliothtwistymcgee: oh no! stay away from ubuntuguide01:16
Strifehmm01:16
twistymcgeenalioth: yup...it's installed01:16
andersbrHello again.  Can anyone point me to a tutorial for backing up an entire HDD partition?  I want to do something equivalent to Norton Ghost on the cheap.01:16
StrifeCarlFK: hmm, so you don't think any weird errors would occur if I just reinstalled without formatting?01:16
naliothtwistymcgee: ubuntuguide will lead to system breakage01:16
twistymcgeereally?01:16
revelateranyone??01:16
SeveasStrife, you're out of luck, reinstalling is the only easy option01:16
naliothtwistymcgee: yes, the use of unofficial repositories, for one01:17
andersbrUbuntuguide bad?  Say it ain't so!01:17
StrifeSeveas: right, which is what I had figured anyway, but should I reformat, or is it ok to just reinstall without reformatting?01:17
revelaterAfterShock: you awake?01:17
CarlFKStrife - well, re-install will include formatting, so...01:17
tiredbonesuniq, Ok that worked. Can you explain why I didn't need it?01:17
Burgundaviatweakism, ubuntuguide must be taken with a large grain of salt01:17
uniqandersbr: take a look at partimage. it can be downloaded from synaptic / apt-get. http://www.partimage.org/01:17
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SeveasStrife, reformatting would be better01:17
CarlFKStrife - don't expect to save any of the old config.01:17
revelaterguess not01:18
tkieseltiredbones: Synaptic will usually configure everything for you. The basics at least. It set up Apache to use php4 for you. No extra steps needed. :)01:18
SeveasDon't try to even - there may be breezy-specifics in the config that Hoary will b0rk about01:18
twistymcgeei've had good luck with ubuntuguide so far01:18
twistymcgeeexcept with the rhythmbox of course01:18
naliothtwistymcgee: it's only a matter of time01:18
uniqtiredbones: because it's added automatically by the php4 installation. the reason you don't see it is that it's loaded from /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php4.load01:18
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twistymcgeenalioth: so what repos should be enabled?01:19
cafuego!why is there no long factoid that matches by question and should thus on the pr3vious code have told me I'm a moron, but won't now?01:19
ubotucafuego: what are you talking about?01:19
revelateranyone know how to edit mime?01:19
nalioths_dogtwistymcgee: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3801:19
tiredbonestkiesel,uniq -  thanks for the reply.01:19
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tiredbonestkiesel,   thanks for the reply.01:19
tiredbonesuniq -  thanks for the reply.01:19
tkieseltiredbones: No problem.01:19
cafuegoThere we go.01:19
uniqtiredbones: happy to help. :)01:20
cafuegoubotu: goo'boy01:20
ubotuAww, thanks dad.01:20
tkieselrevelater: I'm still trying to figure out magic numbers.01:20
naliothtwistymcgee: there is nothing wrong with unofficial repos IF YOU USE THEM ONCE for the program you are after, then disable them01:20
tkieselrevelater: i.e. What you mean by magic numbers.01:20
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KhaBaldoes the command alsa work ?01:20
KhaBalon ubuntu?01:20
revelatertkiesel: its the first 4bytes of a file that identify it..01:20
twistymcgeenalioth: ok i'll have a read of those01:20
KhaBalomg, it says here to get your sound card working the command alsa would fix it01:20
twistymcgeenalioth: any ideas in the meantime as to the rhythmbox issue?01:21
IFRFLYRBuenos. Another question - anyone have their internal Memory Stick readers working on a notebook?01:21
twistymcgeeor recommend something equivalent?01:21
lsuactiafnerhow do i make my mouse move faster?01:21
naliothtwistymcgee: i'm not sure, i have every plugin i could find installed on my box01:21
lsuactiafnerin X?01:21
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IFRFLYRIsuactiafner, move your fingers more rapidly01:21
tkieselrevelater: No clue here.01:21
naliothtwistymcgee: and everything i have works (except wmv9/10)01:21
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budluvalsuactiafner, maybe system > preferences > mouse?01:21
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mikeok network problem guy  here.  back01:22
CarlFKmike - were you root__?01:23
mikethe thin client  (b)  says error  !  no root path01:23
mikeyes .01:23
CarlFKmike - any idea how A chaned from 104 to 101?01:23
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mikeno idea  man.01:23
IFRFLYRSo, perhaps stated better: if you insert a memory stick card in an internal card reader, what should it mount as?01:23
caonexSeveas, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/304946, can you look at that?01:24
lsuactiafnerlol01:24
mikeill do an ifconfig01:24
lsuactiafnerbleh i donthave system/preferances..01:24
mikeyup   10101:24
KhaBalcan anyone please help me?01:24
lsuactiafnerwhats the gnome app called?01:24
KhaBalive just looked up a site on c-media drivers for linux http://www.cmedia.com.tw/download/OS-e-cmi8738_linux.htm01:24
CarlFKmike - I have a feeling BoxA is set get its IP from a dhcp server, maybe even itself.01:24
KhaBalit shows download 1,2,3 do i download all 3 or one of 3?01:25
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KhaBal:( no ones helping01:26
CarlFKmike - dig around in A's network config and figure out how to change A's IP from 101 back to 10401:26
naliothKhaBal: patience01:26
KhaBalnalioth: can you help me nalioth? please01:26
IFRFLYRKhaBal, you're actually not being entirely clear. Try stating the question in one go, as succinctly (briefly) as possible01:26
KhaBalok01:27
CarlFKmike - was B going to boot a version of Ubunto, or LTSP (linux terminal server projct )01:27
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naliothKhaBal: have a little patience, the brain(s) are at work01:27
mikeubunto01:27
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mikewe had it so all the clients can boot from 1 user01:27
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quamis there a way to link the terminal copy and paste crap with x copy and paste? if i highlight something in terminal, i can only shift+insert it into other terminal windows :(01:27
mikeyah i think i ll change the addresses back to 10401:28
lsuactiafnerquam : use shift when copy+pasting01:28
KhaBalIm having problems with my sound card (C-Media CMI 8738) on linux, and in order to fix it I have looked up the main site for the driver updates for linux sound cards from here: http://www.cmedia.com.tw/download/OS-e-cmi8738_linux.htm it shows here download 1,2,3 do i just download 1 of 3 of them or all 3?01:28
CarlFKmike - can you post your /etc/fstab /etc/exprots and something/default01:28
naliothKhaBal: please tell us  what you are trying to do, and what these files are supposed to do.01:28
KhaBalnalioth: they are dirver updates01:28
naliothKhaBal: they appear to be a driver and 2 patches, but i'm not sure which (or all) you need01:29
quamlsu: holding down shift doesnt do anything :P01:29
dolnywhat terminal is the most customizable/best ?01:29
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dolnykonsole is cool but i cant delete the boundaries totally01:29
mikemeeting  brb01:29
naliothdolny: that is a question to start fires01:29
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dolny:)01:29
KhaBalnalioth: there are instructions underneath these writings, but ?I dont really understand01:29
quamlsuactiafner: i dont have trouble pasting from x into terminals, i have trouble pasting stuff from terminals into x programs01:29
naliothdolny: try eterm01:30
dolnyanyway i like konsole but i cant delete the borders - they stay thin01:30
naliothKhaBal: what kind of system are you running? distro, version, etc01:30
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dolnynalioth: ok gonna check it now01:30
KhaBalnalioth: the latest version of ubuntu01:30
mikemake sure the option-root path   is  specified ?01:30
nilslIf I want to compile my own packages (that I download), what do I need?01:30
naliothanyone can understand those files for khabal? i havent a clue01:30
naliothnilsl: 1: install "build-essential" 2: install "checkinstall"  (both can be found in the repos)01:31
KhaBalfile1: is the driver01:31
KhaBaland the 2 other ones are patches01:31
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KhaBalwhy do you need a patch for a driver?01:31
tkieselnalioth: I've got to go now, but some investigation into wether KhaBal really needs the new driver or not might be good.01:31
naliothKhaBal: and that is what i'm not sure on01:31
tkieselTake care all!01:32
naliothtkiesel: please start detecting01:32
nilslnalioth: Thx.01:32
quamlsuactiafner: hrm, heh, i pressed the middle mouse button on accident and it did what i wanted it to :P thanks anyway01:32
naliothcrap01:32
djsKhaBal, I think files 2 and 3 are different patches for different kernels01:32
k40zhi.. using Ndiswrapper for USB wifi, works fine, but *always* loses connection after 10-30 minutes - any ideas??01:32
tkieselnalioth: Wish I could. but the wife needs me.01:32
naliothtkiesel: be safe01:32
Jesse1nalioth, why crap?01:32
naliothSeveas: you still here?01:32
KhaBaldjs: hmm, which one would suit the latest version of ubuntu?01:33
naliothJesse1: cuz i can't read as fast as this thing scrolls01:33
pedingtoIs there a way to roll back ubuntu at all?01:33
Jesse1lol01:33
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naliothdjs: thats what i suspected also, but idk nuthin about kernels01:33
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naliothpedingto: reinstall01:33
hazem_i want to convert file from pdf to txt or doc or any thing to edit it01:33
hazem_so how i can do it?01:33
pedingtoLol, yeah I assumed that.01:33
dolnyhow can i hide the upper tray in Eterm? I mean that thing with 'eterm' 'font' 'background' 'terminal' thing01:34
naliothpedingto: there is a way, but i'm sure reinsalling is easier01:34
dolnyi want it to look as a part of the desktop01:34
naliothpedingto: and quicker (and less swearing)01:34
pedingtoYeah I think I'll do that :)01:34
Suepahflyhazem_,  pdf in non editable unless u have adobe01:34
pedingtolol - I've sworn enough already ;)01:34
dolnynalioth: how can i hide the menu? in eterm01:34
KhaBali think file 3 is 2.6 and above01:34
djsKhaBal, The one with 2.6.4 (file03) would be better but I'd be concerned that there isn't an exact match (ie. 2.6 10)01:34
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{{Snake] ] in which directory this I cosay source in ubuntu??01:35
Burgundaviapedingto, currently the underlying package system doesn't support it. It is something that is on the roadmap for the future01:35
naliothdolny: i'm not sure if the ubuntu version can do that (or any version)01:35
tiredbonesBefore installing apache2 I completely removed apache, yet I still see the old server "ServerRoot" path. Which was /var/www. Shouldn't it have been removed?01:35
pedingtoAhh okay Burgun :)01:35
dolnydamn, because its cool beside that01:35
dolny;] 01:35
k40zhazem_ - you can highlight the text and paste it somewhere else, i reckon01:35
naliothKhaBal: ask Seveas when he gets back01:35
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naliothdolny: yes, the random chngng bkrd is way cool01:36
hazem_k40z: can't do it :)01:36
KhaBalnalioth: whos Seveas?01:36
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naliothKhaBal: one of the real brains of this channel01:36
naliothi am just a neuron01:36
dolnywell, i use transparency :D and delete all borders so i can write on the desktop but i cant hide borders in Konsole... and I can't hide the menubar in Eterm...doh :)01:36
Ironfrostdoes anyone know a decent swf to avi converter for Linux?01:37
KhaBalnalioth: who know when he'd be back01:37
kishkumenok, i am trying to get mysql set up on my box and i keep on getting this01:37
kishkumenhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/26801:37
CarlFKIronfrost - transcode and mencoder are the 2 best01:37
budluvacan someone help me with a dvd burning problem? it seems my burner is not reaching top burning speeds in ubuntu, i can only burn dvd's at 3x, while i have 8x media and a 16x burner, how do i fix this?01:38
thingyIf the screensaver has activated, should it be possible to switch to a console? Can anyone confirm this for me?01:38
budluvaim using k3b if that helps01:38
CarlFKkishkumen - no spacec between u and root01:38
Ironfrostdoes Transcode really convert from Flash?01:39
ttyS0is it any another good front-end to wvdial (except gnome-ppp) ? :)01:39
k40zhazem_ you using linux w/ X, yea? highlight the text and use the middle buttom of your mouse to paste what is highlighted01:39
CarlFKIronfrost - oh.. flash.. probably not01:39
kvidellmy oh my01:39
kvidellthe admins on this network sure are talkative aren't they? :) hehe. I like that though.01:39
naliothKhaBal: no i dont01:39
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hazem_k40z: any way thx bro i found answer :) betatester hazem_: u can try with the command ps2ascii01:40
kishkumenCarlFK: i still get an error01:40
kishkumenCarlFK: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/26901:40
CarlFKkishkumen - is mysql running on the same box?01:41
kishkumenCarlFK: yes01:41
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CarlFKtry mysqladmin -uroot -ptrustno101:42
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lsuactiafnercan xterm be transparent?01:42
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boowxterm dont thinkso try aterm01:42
lsuactiafnerbleh01:43
naliothbudluva: ya got a brand new burner?01:43
lsuactiafnereterm can do it tho01:43
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FazerHello, does anyone here recommend something better than abi word?01:43
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naliothFazer: what could be BETTER than abiword?01:44
boowi have a transparent aterm in archlinux01:44
Fazernalioth: Heh, i see your point.01:44
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naliothFazer: light(relatively)weight RTF writer?01:44
kishkumenCarlFK: this is what I get01:44
kishkumenCarlFK: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/27001:44
erkan_you know when you look up something on gnome? it shows the file thats being runned on the taskbar? i accesedenitly deleted it01:44
erkan_how do i make it so i reapeares?01:44
k40zwireless loses connection: dmesg output =  wlan0: no IPv6 routers present -- what to do?01:45
lsuactiafnerFazer : abiword is sexy ok.01:45
boowwhat about OOO01:45
CarlFKtry mysqladmin -uroot -p01:45
lsuactiafnerOO is ugly01:45
naliothFazer: lsuactiafner especially if you compile it yourself with --with-sexy-voice-interaction  enabled01:45
naliothOO is ugly and ponderous01:46
bassinboyGeez, nothing is working.... vlc looked like it was almost about to open a DVD, but it crashed01:46
lsuactiafnerhmmm01:46
lsuactiafnernalioth : when i first came to this channel i was bashed for talkin sheet.. but now everyone is talkin sheet with me..01:46
lsuactiafnerlol01:46
lsuactiafneri ruined it01:46
lsuactiafnerhehe01:46
naliothlsuactiafner: bad timing on me hitting the enter button01:47
boowi compile vlc it was pretty unstable01:47
GrammatonClericconformer!01:47
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GrammatonCleric=)01:47
goldfishboow: why not use apt-get ?01:47
boowthis was on slackware01:47
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goldfishah01:47
goldfishi see :)01:47
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KhaBalim back01:47
Fazerwb01:48
jodeHi, is there any file sharing programs for ubuntu?01:48
GrammatonClericemule and amule01:48
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naliothjode: plenty01:48
jodeI tried to apt-get it and couldn't01:48
boowanyone get gstreamer to work with dvds01:48
naliothjode: gtk-gnutella01:48
naliothjode: bittorrent01:48
naliothboow: my a/v works great except for wmv9/1001:49
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jodecan I apt-get them?01:49
kabI have my  / partition  with reiserfs, and today I upgrade my ubuntu system, and when I reboot i get a ugly kernel panic, can you help me?01:49
naliothjode: do you have universe adn multiverse repos enabled?01:49
GrammatonClericjode: yes but you might need the extra repos01:49
boowdo you have a initrd01:49
kabi was search in google, but I cant make a good initrd image with mkinitrd01:49
jodeno, I don't know how01:49
nalioths_dogjode: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:50
nalioths_dogjode: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3801:50
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naliothsynd, dullard of feline dentifrice01:50
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syndwoRd01:50
Ironfrostjode: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories01:50
GrammatonClericjode: adding the extra repos will sovle most of your apt-get install whatever needs...01:50
naliothsynd: that means, hey howzit goin?01:50
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Ironfrostthen http://ubuntuguide.org/#azureus for the filesharing section01:51
naliothIronfrost: please don't recommend ubuntuguide01:51
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Ironfrostnalioth: why not?01:51
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syndnalioth: i told you them old tymer references g over my hdead01:51
boowis there a jre.deb01:51
Ironfrost(I'm not disagreeing, just wondering)01:51
naliothIronfrost: see #3 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines01:51
jodeok, thanks alot!!!!!!!!!01:51
AfrOTRokHEhi all01:51
AfrOTRokHE=)01:51
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naliothsynd: "look what the cat dragged in" dullard of feline dentifrice01:51
IronfrostOK, fair enough01:52
AfrOTRokHEcan somebody tell me what command i need to change my warty to hoary?01:52
AfrOTRokHEo0?01:52
CarlFKok, here is a "screen shot" of my "multiseat" error http://dev.personnelware.com/carl/temp/Jun27/p1010004.jpg01:52
KhaBalcan anyone name some desktop thingies bnesides KDE and gnome?01:52
syndbleh i love ubuntuguide.org01:52
KhaBalthere was fluxbox01:52
boowi'd rather have a java package then the installer from sun01:52
KhaBalyes thats the one!01:52
CarlFKi get this with both hoary and breezy01:52
naliothKhaBal: enlightenment, xfce4, fluxbox, openbox, more more more01:52
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syndratpoison01:53
AfrOTRokHEanybody?01:53
nalioths_dogAfrOTRokHE: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3801:53
thaytananyone know of any strange hard disk corruption issues with 2.6.10-5?01:53
nalioths_dogAfrOTRokHE: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:53
AfrOTRokHEnalioths_dog: thanks man01:53
AfrOTRokHE=)01:53
naliothAfrOTRokHE: you do those things, and update your apt-get, you'll move from warty to hoary01:53
AfrOTRokHEnalioth. then? i need make apt-get dist-upgrade or something else?01:54
syndnalioth gimme the ubuntugods url01:54
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CarlFKAfrOTRokHE - are you ready to trash your system beyond repair?01:54
AfrOTRokHECarlFK: never ready, but i'm prepared01:54
AfrOTRokHE=P01:54
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naliothCarlFK: trash? changing sources in my list and upgrading worked fine for me01:54
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CarlFKnalioth - as long as someone is ready.. good.  if they are not ready, then they shouldn't01:55
naliothCarlFK: he asked for the procedure01:55
zoopleok...getting there. next thing. how do i see my windows NTFS partition from linux01:55
boowubuntu is cool vs's sarges 14 cd's01:55
CarlFKoh wayit.. to hoary, not from hoary...01:55
naliothCarlFK: he'd have to know there was a procedure to ask about it01:55
CarlFKnm... I was thinking to breezy01:55
naliothAfrOTRokHE: continue operations01:56
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naliothAfrOTRokHE: you'll be fine01:56
CarlFKzoople - seeing is easy.. do you want to write to it?01:56
KhaBalanyone know why fluxbox need fluxconf?01:56
zooplenope01:56
nalioths_dogzoople: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically01:56
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KhaBalgood morning CarlFK01:56
zooplethat causes problems ive heard01:56
CarlFKhi KhaBal01:56
naliothzoople: you are correct (total data loss problems)01:56
KhaBalwhat fluxconf?01:57
boowzoople, modprobe ntfs then youll have to edit fstab01:57
KhaBalnalioth: fluxconf deletes everything?01:57
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CarlFKaww crap.. my server isn't where my server was...01:57
zoopleboow: i dont know what that means01:57
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zoople-newbie:p01:57
naliothKhaBal: i have no clue what you are on about. most -conf files tell the program they belong to what to do/how to act01:57
boowsudo modprobe ntfs01:57
CarlFKhttp://pictures.foxshare.net/carl/temp/Jun27/p1010004.jpg - there is the error I am getting01:57
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KhaBaloh sry01:58
naliothzoople-newbie: read what nalioths_dog said above01:58
zoople-newbieand what is fstab01:58
syndnalioth, email sent to mez01:58
naliothzoople-newbie: File System TABle01:58
boow/etc/fstab01:58
zoople-newbieah ok. how do i do that01:58
cafuegoNote that 'fdisk -l' doesn't list my sata drives.01:58
naliothzoople-newbie: tells your linux where all the data is, and how you want to interact with said data01:58
zoople-newbieah ok. so i did the sudo thing. now what01:59
naliothzoople-newbie: read above to waht nalioths_dog said to you01:59
CarlFKcafuego - wow.  I didn't know you could do that (no dev/x)01:59
lsuactiafnerhow do i make ubuntu not install a dependancy?01:59
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cafuegoCarlFK: Ey?01:59
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Burgundavialsuactiafner, why?01:59
CarlFKcafuego - I knew about fdisk -l /dev/hda, but not just -l01:59
cafuegoCarlFK: <heh>01:59
lsuactiafneri do apt-get install mplayer-fonts but i dont want the ubuntu package, i compile my own mpayer02:00
lsuactiafnermplayer-fonts is one package i want for something else..02:00
zoople-newbiei just see text02:00
lsuactiafnerbut i need to disable the dependancy mplayer6402:00
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zoople-newbiehttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab02:00
Nameeaterdoes ubuntu have poor external modem support?02:00
naliothzoople-newbie: can you use a terminal?02:01
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zoople-newbieevidently not02:01
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zoople-newbieso do i just copy and paste that into the terminal?02:01
naliothzoople-newbie: gimme a minute02:01
achyHi, i installed gcursor and dowload a cople of cursor themes from gmone look but i cant install tmen any help?02:01
cafuegozoople-newbie: Open a terminal, run 'wget -c http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab'02:01
zoople-newbiewow..ok02:02
naliothzoople-newbie: go to Applications > System Tools > Terminal (and open a terminal)02:02
cafuegozoople-newbie: Then run 'sudo sh ./windows_fstab'02:02
Sysacehey guys.. got something going on with my firefox..  re-installation doesn't work for either ver 1.0.2 or 1.0.4... fails with the error:   error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.  Can anybody please help???02:02
zoople-newbieok that run02:02
lsuactiafnerso how do i disbale dependancy checkin with apt-get?02:02
naliothSysace: back up the libmozjs.so and try again02:02
zoople-newbieand i said no to making it writiable02:02
naliothzoople-newbie: ok then02:03
zoople-newbiewow02:03
zoople-newbiethere they are02:03
zoople-newbieTHANKS!!02:03
Sysacenalioth:  backup and try what again?  I've completely removed it and tried re-installing v1.0.2.. failed, removed and reinstalled 1.0.4 and still failing.  :(02:03
zoople-newbieyou guys have been aweseom02:03
naliothzoople-newbie: you just executed a "shell script"02:03
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zoople-newbieah ok02:04
naliothSysace: its complaining about that libmozjs.so, right? if libmozjs.so still exists, back it up and try again02:04
zoople-newbiecool02:04
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naliothzoople-newbie: be careful about using "sudo" (bad instructions following it can wreck your system)02:04
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naliothzoople-newbie: when taking instructions from in here (or any channel) don't execute them right away02:05
naliothzoople-newbie: cuz if someone gives out evil instructions, some(body)one will let you know quickly02:05
AfrOTRokHEnalioth: thanks man, it's workin'02:05
AfrOTRokHE=)02:05
achyanyone02:05
AfrOTRokHE(i think)02:05
AfrOTRokHExD02:05
AfrOTRokHEachy: huh?02:05
achyHi, i installed gcursor and dowload a cople of cursor themes from gmone look but i cant install tmen any help?02:06
Sysacenalioth:  it's saying that it can't be found, however it's in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/ .. /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/ .. and /usr/lib/nvu-1.0PR.  So what exactly are you saying.. back up one of the files (copy it to another location).. then try installing again?  if so .. I've tried that02:06
naliothAfrOTRokHE: i hear windoze installs are easy02:06
boowim glad i purged my pc of windows02:06
zoople-newbieok thanks02:06
zoople-newbie:-)02:06
AfrOTRokHEhahahahahahahahahahahaha02:06
AfrOTRokHEnalioth: i talking'bout warty to hoary02:06
naliothSysace: back it up as in "mv libmozjs.so libmozjs.so.bak"02:06
naliothAfrOTRokHE: i know, i was pullin yer leg02:06
AfrOTRokHE:S02:07
Sysacenalioth:  I didn't actually back it up in that sense, however I did delete it completely and it returns with each attempt at re-installation02:07
naliothSysace: well thats crazy02:07
naliothSysace: apt-get has "Force" options02:08
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Sysaceand this is a brand new install just completed last night.. everything was working then.. till I changed repositories following a ubuntuguide and tried updating from 1.0.2 to 1.0.402:08
naliothSysace: as in get out the sledge and get it in there02:08
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KhaBalhow do you compress a bz2 file?02:08
naliothSysace: ah ubuntuguide AGAIN02:08
Elsidoxis the ubuntu backprots server down?02:08
naliothSysace: comment out all the unofficial repos you have now02:08
naliothKhaBal: "bzip2 file"02:09
KhaBalnalioth: who was the person you reffered to me that is the braniest guy out?02:09
Sysacenalioth:  I actually restored my original sources.list and tried re-installing 1.0.2 but no luck.. same error02:09
naliothKhaBal: ask your question again, there are differnt people in here now02:09
KhaBaltried that command this error came "bzip2: Input file discostoo_sephiroth.tar.bz2 already has .bz2 suffix."02:09
naliothSysace: remove all that you installed under the ubuntuguide sources02:09
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naliothKhaBal: then you needed to ask how to UNcompress a bz2 file02:10
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KhaBalyes lol02:10
naliothKhaBal: bunzip2 filename.bz202:10
twistymcgeewhy is ubuntuguide linked on the ubuntu website?02:10
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naliothtwistymcgee: i have no clue02:10
naliothtwistymcgee: but it is evil (as you can see on an hourly basis here)02:10
teeagoocan i install ubuntu in hdd? (grub in hda mbr)?02:11
Sysacenalioth:  I installed a lot of software following the ubuntuguide.. too much to go back and remove02:11
naliothteeagoo: sure can02:11
twistymcgeewell i still can't get rhythmbox to recognize that i have gstreamer0.8-mad installed so i figure it has to be something i did from that site02:11
naliothSysace: you are not the first to do so and not be able to go forward or backup02:11
naliothSysace: the easiest quickest option is not the prettiest02:11
Sysacenalioth:  there must be some way this can be fixed though.. some path somewhere to tell it where to find the lib02:11
teeagoo[nalioth]  bua, aaaam, grub will be installed automaticaly on hda mbr (sorry for my bad english) ?02:12
KhaBalwhat commands do people use to extract a .tar file?02:12
naliothtwistymcgee: Sysace y'all read #3 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines02:12
naliothteeagoo: grub can be on the /dev/hda/mbr and still start ubuntu on /dev/hdd02:12
KhaBaltar -xzvf??02:12
naliothKhaBal: depends on what kind of tar file02:13
Vinh-is there a iptables log located somewhere in the system?02:13
naliothKhaBal: plain tar, tar.gz or tar.bz202:13
teeagoo[nalioth]  ok, tks!!02:13
KhaBalplain tar02:13
teeagoo[nalioth]  i will try!02:13
naliothKhaBal: tar xvf file.tar02:13
twistymcgeenalioth: i read it i just don't remember what all i installed using those instructions02:14
teeagooI can install grub by boot cd? (rescue...)02:14
teeagoocan i install grub by boot cd? (rescue...)02:14
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lsuactiafnerwhat command can i run to check all the extra packages installed on my system and to make em all update?02:14
naliothteeagoo: i think you must boot the livecd and chroot, but i don't know for sure how to do that02:14
naliothlsuactiafner: apt-get upgrade?02:14
Sysacek.. what's a decent alternative browser for me to use till I get firefox going again02:14
naliothSysace: galeon02:15
teeagoo[nalioth]  tkz :-)02:15
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wolverianoh wow. totem-gstreamer is actually usable on breezy. yay!02:15
wolverianSysace: epiphany02:15
Ironfrostsysace - if you don't mind propriatory software, Opera is excellent02:15
lsuactiafnernalioth : doesnt seem to upgrade non-default packages02:15
Ironfrostotherwise, Mozilla02:15
Sysacenalioth:  galeon: Depends: mozilla-browser (>= 2:1.7.5) but it is not going to be installed02:15
lsuactiafnerbleh firefox02:15
naliothtwistymcgee: Sysace most folks who have followed the ubuntuguide to y'alls postions usually reinstall02:15
wolverianhah. everything depends on gecko. :)02:15
lsuactiafneroh02:15
naliothSysace: opera, then02:16
lsuactiafneralternative02:16
lsuactiafnernetscape was nie02:16
flodinea guys anyone use teamspeak02:16
naliothlsuactiafner: it wont upgrade things you've built/installed02:16
KhaBalexcuse me where do you mkdir .fluxbox in the home folder?02:16
lsuactiafnerlynx or links (:02:16
Sysacegot epiphany now  :)02:16
wolverianSysace: oh. epiphany doesn't depend on mozilla-browser. right.02:16
wolverianand it's the official gnome browser, too!02:16
naliothand it blows02:16
Funraiserflodine, u can use skype instead u know02:16
naliothpersonal opinion of course02:16
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concept10Funraiser, skype instead of teamspeak?02:17
wolveriannalioth: there are things that I hate about it, but I still like it more than firefox, for some reason.02:17
wolverianprobably because it's just more HIG-compliant.02:17
Funraiserconcept10, yes02:17
lsuactiafnerlinks -G might work02:17
Funraiserskype works on a LAN too02:17
Sysacecommand to launch epiphany?02:17
naliothwolverian: i use galeon and kazehakase02:18
concept10Funraiser, have you used it during a game?02:18
flodineFunraiser does it connect to team02:18
naliothSysace: type epiphany in the terminal (it should be on your menu under Internet)02:18
Funraiserconcept10, a friend of mine did right here in my house02:18
wolveriannalioth: kazehakase seems interesting. I've been meaning to try it out. gaelon I just didn't find interesting, at all.02:18
Elsidoxcan anyone help me. I was wondering if the ubuntu backports repos where down. I cant download anything from them.02:19
Funraiserflodine, this i don't know02:19
Sysacebash: epiphany: command not found02:19
Sysacewoohoo... "apt-get build-dep mozilla-browser" seems to have fixed my firefox  :)02:19
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wolverianSysace: then it's not installed, apparently.02:20
naliothwolverian: kazekahase renders things that galeon doesnt, but is lacking some features galeon has02:20
Sysaceepiphany is already the newest version.02:20
wolverianSysace: maybe your shell needs a 'rehash' or so, then.02:20
wolverian(the command.)02:20
Sysacedoesn't really matter though I guess with firefox working again  :)02:20
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Sysacerehash?02:21
wolveriannalioth: I thought they both used gecko02:21
naliothElsidox: its better you not use backports except when you are getting a certain program, and then disable them02:21
naliothwolverian: they do, and thats the funny thing02:21
wolverianSysace: some shells need you to manually tell when to refresh the cache of available programs02:21
wolveriannalioth: oh. okay.02:21
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wolverianSysace: this shouldn't be a problem in bash.02:21
wolverian(but maybe you're using dash, or something)02:21
Elsidoxnalioth, I see. I was trying to install smeg. But I get errors liek cant contact server.02:21
Funraisersupreme court said p2P apps are illegal02:22
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hajikiwhat cursor theme does ubuntu use?02:22
wolverianHuman :)02:22
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wolverianFunraiser: no, it didn't.02:23
Funraiserwhat did it say?02:23
maruchanHello, Can some one help me with sound, it sounds very distorted02:23
hajikioh i though i saw it on debian and assumed it was something else02:23
CarlFKFunraiser - URL?02:23
hajikithanks02:23
Funraiserone sec02:23
wolverianFunraiser: read a good news source (i.e. not /.)02:23
Elsidoxnalioth, any ideas?02:23
metzenmaruchan: turn your pcm volume down in the volume mixer02:23
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metzenmaruchan: you are probably peaking becuase the slider is too high02:24
Funraiserhttp://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=mgm+supreme+court&btnG=Search+News02:24
naliothElsidox: i recommend you comment out all unofficial sources from your list02:24
naliothElsidox: and if you HAVE to have it, you can compile it by hand02:24
Sysacecan somebody suggest something for me to monitor my cpu and hd temps?02:25
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Elsidoxnalioth, I was going to do that. But stuff like java is hard to intsall02:25
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Funraiserwolverian, what's a good source?02:25
nalioths_dogElsidox: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 02:25
dlanorpsst What's everyone's favourite distro here?02:25
naliothwolverian: you mean /. isnt OMNIPOTENT?02:25
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FunraiserThe US Supreme Court gave a boost to the effort to crack down on online piracy, ruling that peer-to-peer networks like Grokster used to swap music and films can be held liable for copyright infringement.02:25
Elsidoxnalioths_dog, that will make java run in firefox also?02:26
naliothElsidox: yes it will02:26
naliothElsidox: you ARE on a x86 box, right?02:26
Elsidoxnalioth, thanks02:26
CarlFKFunraiser = "can be held liable" bah... that isn't definative02:26
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nalioththe supreme court just stirred schlitz up with their ruling02:27
Elsidoxnalioth, yes im on x8602:27
naliothElsidox: just wondering02:27
Elsidoxnalioth, =). thanks again02:27
zho40how do i upgrade to 686 kernel in synaptic?02:27
kishkumenhow do you completly remove something?02:28
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wolverianFunraiser: right. that doesn't make P2P itself illegal.02:28
djsElsidox, You can obtain a DEB file for smeg from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3818302:28
wolverian(which doesn't mean it's not a horrendously bad verdict.)02:28
Elsidoxdjs, thanks02:28
djsElsidox: yw :)02:28
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maruchanmetzen maruchan: turn your pcm volume down in the volume mixer>  Lowering PCM dosnet help infact it lowers the volume02:29
kishkumenia m trying to reinstall mysql-server-4.1, but it is giving me this error02:29
kishkumenhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/27102:29
Funraiserwolverian, ok, but it's a big step in that direction (not that i care)02:30
CarlFKkishkumen - you may want to try #mySql02:30
kishkumenCarlFK: *sigh* sure02:30
CarlFKsowwy ;)02:30
wolverianFunraiser: yes.02:31
twistymcgeenalioth: i can get amarok working with gstreamer...which is fine for me...there's no way i'm reinstalling02:31
FunraiserI wonder what bram will say about it02:31
naliothtwistymcgee: just showing you what is happening02:31
kishkumenCarlFK: this time it is an ubuntu problem though...02:31
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kishkumenCarlFK: not a mysql problem02:32
twistymcgeenalioth: appreciate it...everything else is working fine it's just rhythmbox which i can live without02:32
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kishkumenCarlFK: is there a way to completly remove a package from ubuntu02:32
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kishkumenCarlFK: cause apt-get remove <package> is not cutting it02:33
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CarlFKkishkumen - um... yes?  I know what you are getting at, but I don't really know02:34
Funraiserspeaking of which: "the war of the worlds" premieres on the 29th :-)02:34
wolveriankishkumen: --purge. man apt-get02:34
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djskishkumen: apt-get remove --purge <package>02:34
Elsidoxdjs, do you know how to install azereus?02:34
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Coricalbleh02:34
Coricalgoto sleep  ;p02:34
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epHow do I go about getting gcc allong with the std c++ libraries, the debugger, linker, documentation etc.?  Is there a single apt-get for something similar to this?02:35
djsElsidox: If you enable the "multiverse" repository it should be available for install02:35
uniqep: build-essential02:35
CarlFKep - yes... devel-essincials or something... gime a sec..02:35
FunraiserElsidox, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#azureus02:35
CarlFKyeah, that.02:35
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Elsidoxdjs, Funraiser thanks02:35
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djsElsidox: Take care with ubuntuguide - not always the best advice02:36
kishkumendjs: once purged i can do an apt-get install <package> as if i never did it before right?02:36
djskishkumen: yes02:36
Kyral|AFKholy shyt, I changed my nick HERE?! I thought I did it on the Undernet!02:36
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b-radevening everyone :)  Does anyone have a copy of the ubuntusetup.sh script mentioned on the forums?  I can't download it since I get a connection refused when trying to wget to download.ubuntuforums.org02:37
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kishkumeni am getting this now...02:37
kishkumenhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/27202:37
Kyralb-rad, I do02:38
KyralWant a DCC?02:38
maruchanshould pcm volume control also control the main volume?02:38
b-radyeah, hopefully it'll connect up02:39
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b-radI clicked accept... it's sitting heh02:39
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ElsidoxFunraiser, for somer reason the backports repos arnt working02:39
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KyralI never have luck with sending files02:39
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Kyraland why use wget, just fire up lynx or FireFox and get it :D02:40
b-radtried that02:40
FunraiserElsidox, u have to follow all the steps02:40
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b-radsame error on firefox :)02:40
KyralO_O02:40
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b-radyeah... not sure what the deal is.  I can do all of that stuff manually, but I'd rather not if there's a script for it already :)02:41
ElsidoxFunraiser, I did02:41
b-radI just jumped ship from Gentoo02:41
KenosisIs there no repository for mplayer?02:41
Can0Beansokay -- trying to load Hoary on a latitude D610 laptop (might have SATA drives) and I keep getting the Load Installer components from CD failed02:41
Can0Beansany suggestions?02:41
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ElsidoxFunraiser, Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restrictedd/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 70.84.217.98 80] 02:41
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kishkumenb-rad: well, thus far gentoo support is a hellva lot better then anything i have gotten here02:42
cafuegoElsidox: You made a typo. extra 'd' in restrictedd02:42
Kyralkishkumen, I'm offended! :P02:42
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Elsidoxcafuego, lol. doh. Thanks02:42
kishkumenKyral: when ever my ??'s get too complicated people shut up02:42
b-radkishkumen: Well, I got tired of compiles and whatnot with Gentoo, so here I am.  I've had Ubuntu on the laptop for a while now02:42
Kyralkishkumen, Ask on the Forums?02:43
Kyralthe forums ROCK02:43
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KenosisI'm doing a Gentoo stage3 on my server right now.02:43
epwhere are "the forums"?02:43
djskishkumen: I'd like to help more but mysql isn't my area :(02:43
KenosisI don't have time for a stage102:43
Kyralwww.ubuntuforums.org02:43
EBAL_VAS_VSEH? ???? ??? ????02:43
KenosisI have Ubuntu on my desktop02:43
CarlFKKenosis - Generally Too much trouble? ;)02:43
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Kenosismmm02:44
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kishkumendjs: it is not a mysql problem though, apt-get is not removing everything it is suppose to, even with an apt-get --purge02:44
b-radI'm on my desktop now... switched it over last night02:44
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KyralGentoo == Too much work02:44
KenosisAre there entries in the Ubuntu/Debian repositories for mplayer?02:44
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KyralKenosis, use Totem and Xine and Beep instead :D02:44
Kenosisor maybe libDVDeCSS?02:44
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CarlFKKenosis - #gentoo gang is pretty cool - but i found it a bit too much hassle to keep up02:45
gandalfsbigwandI'm looking for the kcolorchooser program which is part of a larger package of programs for KDE but I can't find it in the repositories. I tried custom searches in synaptic but found nothing.02:45
KenosisWill they come with the codecs?02:45
b-radKyral, don't suppose you could email me that script?  brad@fubarpa.com02:45
KyralKenosis, enable Backports, Universe, Extras, and Multiverse02:45
Kyralsure02:45
b-radmuch appreciated :)02:45
KenosisE: Couldn't find package xine02:45
SismondiHow do you create new shortcuts (not edit old ones)?02:46
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gandalfsbigwandanyone know where kcolorchooser package is for Ubuntu Hoary?02:46
Sismondii.e. for to execute a script.02:46
KyralKenosis: Its xine-ui02:46
Kenosisahh..sorry02:46
djskishkumen: I just checked on packages.ubuntu.com and my.cnf is part of the mysql-common-4.1 package.  Perhaps try reinstalling that.02:46
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Kyralrun this command02:46
Agrajag-gday. is it possible to install apache 1.3 on warty?02:47
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KyralKenosis, sudo apt-get install xine-ui totem-xine w32codecs02:47
cafuego!info apache warty02:47
ubotuapache: (Versatile, high-performance HTTP server), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.3.31-6 (warty), Packaged size: 368 kB, Installed size: 800 kB02:47
kishkumendjs: i have tried reinstalling it more then once02:47
KenosisCouldn't find package w32codecs02:47
Kyraloh b-rad you want a GMail invite with that?02:48
cafuegoAgrajag-: 'sudo apt-get install apache'02:48
Kyral!info w32codecs hoary02:48
b-radKyral:  No thanks, already have 50 of my own to deal out :)02:48
Agrajag-i've tried apt-get install apache, it tells me apache-common replaces it02:48
Agrajag-which doesn't make much sense02:48
djskishkumen: -comon or -server ?02:48
maruchanhow do i open esd.conf to edit it02:48
djscommon*02:48
cafuegoAgrajag-: Just make sure you have 'universe' listed in your sources.list02:48
Agrajag-ok02:48
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kishkumendjs: -server02:48
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kishkumendjs: that is the only one i had install prviously02:49
KyralKenosis, check your PM02:49
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kishkumendjs: i guess I tried to manualy delete /etc/mysql, i know that is the problem (stupid me) that is why I am trying to completly remove the package and reinstall02:49
Can0Beansanyone have any suggestions for my issue?02:49
djskishkumen: -server depends on -common so it would be installed when you installed it.  Try deinstalling both02:49
KenosisCould not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)02:49
djskishkumen: it = -server02:50
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Kyralb-rad, sent02:51
b-radKyral:  Got it, thanks a lot :)02:51
kishkumendjs: when removing -common i get this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/27302:51
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pedingtoHrm, I'm getting a scrollkeeper error during installation.02:52
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djskishkumen: hmm - do you get the same error if you try deinstalling again?02:53
pedingtowell its still doing it02:53
pedingtoI didn't have this error before02:54
pedingtoI'm reinstalling, and now getting parser error: 79202:54
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kishkumendjs: i mkdir /etc/mysql and then re ran the apt-get remove --purge and it ran with out a problem02:54
kishkumendjs: i just did 'apt-get install libmysqlclient14-dev mysql-server-4.1' and it installed with out a hitch02:54
b-radKyral:  doh, looks like it's not going to be of much use at the moment... some of the files it downloads are from download.ubuntuforums.org02:54
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djskishkumen: smart work!! - now try reinstalling02:54
b-radno matter, I think I can get around it02:54
djskishkumen: too quick for me02:55
djs:)02:55
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KenosisWhy would I get an error for Cannot connect to localhost:4001???02:55
Nameeaterwhat repo's should i use for apt?02:56
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kishkumendjs: ok it looks like it is a mysql problem now02:56
kishkumendjs: i'll ask #mysql, thanks though ;-)02:56
ookiianyone have any alternatives for transcode? i'm having the hardest time installing it02:56
djskishkumen: you feel you have a clean install now?02:57
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djskishkumen: ok - good luck.02:57
cafuegoapt-get install --reinstall --force-confmiss mysql-server02:57
Strifeso I'm trying to reinstall ubuntu, but the only network access I have is via wireless, which requires me to use a web browser to authenticate.... is there no lynx or links that comes on the install cd?02:57
kishkumencafuego: what does that do?02:58
cafuegokishkumen: Forces a reinstall, including default config files.02:58
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kishkumenjust to show you, this is when I get when I do /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root -h moroni password '<password>'02:58
kishkumenhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/27402:58
kishkumencafuego: ahhh02:58
cafuegokishkumen: Ah yes. That's a feature.02:59
cafuegokishkumen: '/usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root -p'02:59
kishkumencafuego: a feature?02:59
cafuegokishkumen: try that,.02:59
cafuegokishkumen: Yes, you're FORCING it to connect via TCP, not via the local socket.02:59
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Strifeso more specifically, when I am trying to install, it "couldn't retrieve zlib1g" and quits02:59
CarlFKStrife - gime a sec.. I'm sure this can be hacked ;)02:59
StrifeCarlFK: I'm sure it can, somehow...02:59
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kishkumencafuego: this is what I get http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/27503:00
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StrifeI mean, if I have the cd anyway, why would it try to get something from the network?03:01
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cafuegokishkumen: It doesn't prompt for the password?03:01
KenosisFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xine-ui/xine-ui_0.99.3-1ubuntu1_i386.deb  Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)03:01
Kenosisgrr!03:01
kishkumencafuego: no03:01
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SismondiHow do you create new keyboard shortcuts (not edit old ones)? i.e. to execute shell scripts..03:02
Strifeso it's telling me that this could be either a network problem, or a bad CD...03:02
cafuegokishkumen: What hgappens when you run 'mysql -u root -p' ?03:02
StrifeI don't want to have to use the ass slow os x disk utility again :(03:02
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kishkumencafuego: it asks for a password03:02
cafuegokishkumen: *nod* enter root's password03:02
kishkumenahh ok that works03:03
KenosisHow do I open up port 4001?03:03
epstill shooting for  complete c++ package: apt-get install build-essentials -->Couldn't find package build-essentials.  Did I type this wrong?03:03
KenosisI sthere a system firewall installed by default?03:03
Kenosis*is03:03
pedingtowhat command is it to work out the modeline again?03:03
cafuegokishkumen: Ok, I expect the uissue is '-h moroni'. Maybe try '-h localhost'03:03
Strifeso does anyone know why the installer is crapping out at the zlib1g part?03:04
CarlFKStrife - so you don't really need the Net, just need to get the install to stop tring to use it?03:04
StrifeCarlFK: well I don't know if it's really trying to or not... because I tried to go back and have "no configuration at this time" but I still ran into the same problem03:05
StrifeI may just restart and try again...03:05
b-radep: try build-essential instead of build-essentials03:05
CarlFKStrife - you are correct that everything you need is on the cd.03:05
Strifebut right now I'm checking the CD for integrity just in case, that way if I need to reburn the CD (which is really slow for CDRW by the way) I can know that I need to03:05
eplol ah03:05
StrifeCarlFK: yeah, I recall having installed entirely from the CD last time03:05
CarlFKStrife - on the step that asks for a mirror, there should be a way to specify file://cdrom/ or something03:06
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StrifeCarlFK: it hasn't even gotten THAT far... it craps out on installing the base system03:06
CarlFKStrife - I bet you can pass that as a kernel parameter03:07
Strifethat shouldn't be necessary03:07
CarlFKStrife - so it doesn't get to the reboot part?03:07
Strifethe only kernel parameter I passed last time I installed ubuntu was vga=77103:07
StrifeCarlFK: not even close03:07
CarlFKStrife - any idea how you told it to use the CD and not the net?03:07
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StrifeCarlFK: last time I installed, that came at the mirror selection03:08
b-radgot another question:  anyone have a working Ubuntu backports mirror URL?  ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net appears to be down... can't get a connection03:08
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Strifeuh oh... a file failed to match up with the checksum03:09
Strifef***03:09
CarlFKthat bites03:10
Strifeyeah03:10
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Strifewell I'm going to try restarting and not setting network from the getgo and see what happens...03:10
bassinboywhats a good DVD player?03:10
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Strifebassinboy: xine03:11
bassinboythx03:11
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goliathello there03:11
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b-radnevermind... it's rollin now heh03:12
Strifeargh, why is reinstalling linux such a pain? the first time on my laptop it worked flawlessly03:12
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bassinboyxine plays   my dvd fine, i wonder why totem and vlc (menus) doesn't03:13
Strifebecause totem sucks03:13
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Strifeand I don't like vlc either03:13
rbeldinGood news.  Installed 5.04 on a HP Pavilion a810n (AMD64) w/ a Linksys wireless card (Broadcom 43xx) and ndiswrapper and it worked without a hitch.  Nice job.03:14
Strifebassinboy: strangely, even when totem uses xine as its backend, it still sucks03:14
nomasteryodanalioth_wrkn, thanks for the supporting comment on breezy03:14
Striferbeldin: sweet, now tell me why I can't reinstall ubuntu on my laptop :P03:14
rbeldinI generally wipe out old partitions with system rescue on my laptop and then reinstall into the free space.03:14
bassinboyStrife: on an HP? ewww.....03:15
bassinboyi work at HP :P03:15
rbeldinSo do I03:15
Strifebassinboy: no, dell03:15
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rbeldinthe a810n isn't bad.  ASUS motherboard, 512mb, DVD writer. Got a refurb for $40003:15
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bassinboyrbeldin: in H-town?03:16
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rbeldinRe  -laptop - Compaq Evo N610c w/ 5.04 and wireless works just fine.  Had to use orinoco_usb drivers from cvs.03:16
rbeldinH-town? Houston?   No. Atlanta03:16
bassinboyi see :)03:17
Striferbeldin: good. because Houston is the devil.03:17
bassinboyBleh!03:17
rbeldinThe laptop still keeps its original winders ntfs partition which was resized with system rescue cd.  I have RHEL4 and 5.04 on it as well.03:17
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rbeldinAnyone tried the IA64 Ubuntu distro?   I have a zx2000 workstation that I would like to test it on03:18
Strifeso I like how OS X's "disk utility" by default does the really slow CDRW erase, yet the commandline tool hdiutil does the quick erase03:19
bassinboydo you peoples know a good www image gallery program?03:19
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Strifebassinboy: gallery03:19
Strifegallery.sf.net03:19
Strifethe best there is03:19
bassinboyinstalling..03:20
bassinboycool :)P03:20
Strifethe only other thing I would ever use is the html gallery export feature in gthumb03:20
Strifewhich is nce when you don't have sql access03:20
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Strifealthough.... apparently I don't see anything about sql03:21
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bassinboyinstalled gallery :)03:21
StrifeI could've sworn gallery used sql03:21
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uber_newberhey im really new ubuntu an linux itself, but righ now my main goal is to configure my lynksis wireless b network adapter. so ppl have told me i need ndiswrapper to acomplish this. so i downloaded it but have no clue how to install it and usee it03:21
StrifeI'm confused... did they do away with sql in it or something?03:21
uber_newbercan sum1 help me out please03:22
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oofnikhey, can someone help me get v4l working please?03:22
Strifeuber_newber: do you have module-assistant installed?03:22
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uber_newbernope03:22
oofniki want to be able to use my webcam03:22
Strifeuber_newber: install it03:22
uber_newberok03:22
goliatANYBODY USES phpgroupware here ?03:23
Strifeuber_newber: actually, ths will help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto03:23
steve_fuber_newber: out of curiosity, is it the USB adapter?03:23
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oofniki thought someone made a native driver for the linksys chipset..?03:23
bassinboyStrife: Awesome... now how do i get started with gallery?03:23
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Strifebassinboy: hell if I know... I never installed it, only mooched off of someone's server :)03:23
bassinboylol03:24
Strifealthough I need to learn how to install it03:24
Strifebecause I'm setting a website up for my parents soon so they can have pictures and stuff online03:24
goldfishsudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils03:24
goldfishtbh03:24
jbroomei haven't installed in on deb/ubuntu but it's pretty easy on the RH/mandrake boxes i've put it on03:24
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uber_newbersteve_F> ya it is a usb adapter03:25
Strifeugh writing CDRWs takes forever03:26
steve_fuber_newber: I don't know the "correct" way, but I just set one of these up for my dad over the weekend.03:26
Strifeit better damn well work this time03:26
uber_newbersteve_f> well how would u suggest i do it03:27
oofnikcan anyone help me with setting up my webcam?03:27
Strifebassinboy: http://gallery.menalto.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=GalleryDocs&file=index&page=gallery1-install.unix-ftp.php03:27
oofnikfor some reason v4l isn't working03:27
steve_fuber_newber: check this page to see if your version is supported: http://developer.berlios.de/projects/at76c503a/03:27
uber_newberok thanx03:28
steve_fuber_newber: Mine is v2.8 and works well.03:28
uber_newberand i dunno if it really matters but im running off an ancient laptop, a toshiba tecra 800003:28
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steve_fuber_newber: as long as you have USB it should be ok :)03:29
uber_newberok kool03:29
Strifeolder hardware usually works better... in terms of having drivers that work that is03:29
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uber_newbersteve_f> where do i find the version of my wireless adapter thing03:30
steve_fI bought the linksys wusb11 on saturday for $9 and had it working in about an hour... I was very pleased that it worked at all so I didn't have to return it :)03:30
steve_fThe version is under the velcro plate on the bottom.03:30
uber_newberlol kool03:30
uber_newberoh ok thanx again03:30
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oofnikso.. nobody has a webcam in here? i need some help.. please.. :-/03:31
uber_newberya, mines 2.8 also03:31
uber_newber:)03:31
^thehatsrule^webcam?!03:31
Strifesteve_f: usually you check google first before you buy hardware for a linux box :P03:31
^thehatsrule^:/03:31
steve_fThen it should work fine... the better question is how to do it right. Ie via module-assistant as someone mentioned earlier.03:31
pedingto_Hrm.  I'm having an issue with apt-get.  I've edited the sources.list and its failing to fetch one of them.03:31
oofnikhah yes, webcam...03:31
oofniki have the drivers loaded for it and everything03:31
uber_newberya03:31
Strifepedingto_: do you know for sure that you've edited it correctly?03:31
oofnikbut v4l is broken!03:31
steve_fStrife: yeah, I know. It was an impulse buy. COuldn't beat the price.03:31
pedingto_Yup03:31
bimberipedingto: could be a typo03:32
FLeiXiuSpedingto: perhaps that link is down.03:32
Strifepedingto_: what did you try to add to it?03:32
uber_newberStrife> what was that thing again? module-assistant? was that it03:32
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pedingto_Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz03:32
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pedingto_That was the package it failed on03:32
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Strifeuber_newber: yes... but the one time I used that was with debian, not ubuntu... I think ubuntu already has binary drivers for ndiswrapper...03:33
gm78Hey all. My internal PC speaker is beeping at me about once every 3 minutes or so. What could this mean?03:33
steve_fuber_newber: from a quick search via apt-cache, the atmel drivers don't appear to be available for use via module-assistant03:33
Strifegm78: the world is about to end03:33
oofnikhey gm78, is your normal sound working?03:33
oofnikhahah strife03:33
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steve_fuber_newber: now that my dad has one of these devices, though, I hope to create a package and get someone to sponsor it in universe.03:33
uber_newbersteve_f> ok so that means........03:33
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porpusesup ppl?03:34
gm78Strife, lol, im just worried it could have something to do with CPU temp or something like that. the fans are working fine though....theres enough of them in this thing03:34
uber_newberi mean about what u said earlier03:34
Strifeuber_newber: that you'll be able to apt-get install it and it'll automagically work03:34
gm78oofnik, yep...my normal sound is working fine...using beep media player right now03:34
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uber_newbersweet03:34
gm78Strife, just making sure my computer isn't going to be dead tomorrow03:34
Strifegm78: it very well could mean that, but it's hard to say... the pc speaker beeps for a lot of reasons03:34
mrpickleserr, i think i messed up my apt-get software, can someone help >?03:34
oofnikhm.. gm78 check what dmesg has to say03:34
fr500hello03:35
uber_newberstrife> umm how do i install it. thats the first part of my problem lol03:35
steve_fuber_newber: module-assistant is a way to build modules from source that are not part of the mainline linux kernel03:35
uber_newberi c03:35
Strifeuber_newber: did the link I sent you a while ago not help?03:35
uber_newberdang sorry, i musta missed it03:35
uber_newberwhat was it?03:35
Strifegoogle 'debian ndiswrapper'03:35
gm78oofnik, nothing seems to be out of the ordinary there03:35
Strifeand look for the ubuntu wiki entry03:35
uber_newberok thanx03:35
bassinboyhmm, i dont think mod php is working... what do i add to the apache config?03:35
Strifewhy don't you think it's working?03:36
fr500i have access to my work pc from home,  and i enabled vnc, but i forgot to enable auto login, and i sent a reboot, is there a way for me to access my work pc's desktop, i can go in through ssh and edit files if requiered03:36
Strifedid you try phpinfo(); yet?03:36
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oofnikgm78 i guess you could just go into volume control or alsamixer and mute the PC speaker03:36
gm78oofnik, i figured it might be that i am hitting too many buttons on the keyboard (like windows does sometimes) so i sat and hit some buttons repeatedly and nothing happened03:36
oofnikhah well it's probably not that then.. could it be a certain key combination or something?03:36
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bassinboyStrife: when i go to a php page, firefox asks me if i want to save the file to disk :P03:36
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uber_newberwow this place is so much more helpful than just asking questions in a chat room, ppl actually help u here and dont critisize u for not bearing the knowledge that they do03:37
gm78oofnik, dont think so....i cant see why it would. i was typing an email03:37
Strifeuber_newber: yeah, this ain't #debian...03:37
Strifedon't get me started on #debian...03:37
StrifeI mean03:37
StrifeI'm as elitist as the next guy, but seriously03:37
Strifeif you so much as ask them a question, you're insulting SOMEONE03:37
uber_newberya03:37
oofnikyeah #debian people.. argh03:37
uber_newberlol03:37
Strifeok, trying to reinstall AGAIN03:38
oofnikubuntu people are awesome03:38
uber_newberya totally03:38
pedingtoHrm.  I've double checked the entry in sources.list and it is right.03:38
gm78oofnik, there is no option in the gnome-volume control or alsamixer for my internal pc speaker03:38
Strifeyeah ubuntu people are awesome... too bad for the most part I like pure debian better...03:38
Strifeminus the fact that its installer is old and outdated03:39
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Strifeand that it doesn't autodetect all the hardware that it should03:39
Strifeetc.03:39
oofnikgm78 if you backspace in terminal do you hear beeps?03:39
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alexmrwhy my d4x dont work?03:39
Strifegm78: right after it beeps, you may try seeing the output of dmesg03:39
bassinboyStrife: how do i enable php? my  mind is really out of it right now03:39
fr500how can i kill xserver from console, it always respawns03:39
Strifealexmr: that's a very vague question03:39
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Strifebassinboy: did you try making a .php file with <? phpinfo(); ?> already?03:40
alexmrin english or portuguese here ?03:40
pedingtobrb03:40
bassinboyStrife: will do03:40
cyphasehttp://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/power/library/pa-cell/?ca=dgr-lnxw03SpufsCell03:40
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bassinboyStrife: still doesn't work03:41
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gm78oofnik, yep, it beeps at me03:41
Strifebassinboy: file was in whereever apache looks when you type http://localhost in the browser?03:41
oofnikso does anybody have a working video4linux device?03:41
punkrockguy318I'm hosting an apache 1 server on my ubuntu box.. Is there any sort of html thing that can make my pictures easily viewable on my site?03:41
gm78Strife, just tried that a minute ago, didnt show anything out of the ordinary03:42
oofnikgm78 thats very odd, haha i have no idea what it could be03:42
Strifegallery03:42
CarlFKwoa.03:42
punkrockguy318i just want to cp my pics to a folder and have people view them through an interface that is better than index of /03:42
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Strifehailfeafhl;eaf;savcnl;asf03:42
bassinboyStrife: your last sentense made no sense to me :P03:42
StrifeSON OF A MONKEY'S UNCLE03:42
gm78Strife, just beeped right this second, typed dmesg, nothing has changed03:42
meminHello how can i create a .xinit script, in my home folder, containing "/usr/share/xpde/bin/startxpde"?03:42
keffohm, anyone got dualboot (ubuntu -> winxp)03:42
StrifeIT STILL SAYS THAT IT CAN'T RETRIEVE ZLIB1G03:42
keffo?03:42
CarlFKpunkrockguy318 - gallery - not quite that easy, but close enough03:42
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gm78oofnik, lol, its confusing me too. CentOS used to do it too, and then Ubuntu never did it until today03:42
alexmrStrife:03:42
CarlFKkeffo - I do.03:43
keffook03:43
oofnikgm78 if you heard it on different OS's then maybe it's not linux at all but your BIOS is trying to tell you something?03:43
keffocan you post yer menu.lst03:43
punkrockguy318CarlFK, thanks03:43
keffohave some booting problems for win03:43
gm78oofnik, is there anyway i could check that?? like in linux?03:43
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CarlFKkeffo - no, because it is in XP now, and XPee can't read ext2... duh.03:44
punkrockguy318CarlFK, i'll check that out03:44
keffoargh03:44
oofnikgm78 if you get some sort of hardware monitor maybe.. but you should check the BIOS03:44
Strifeok seriously03:44
Strifewhy the f*** wuld I get the "Couldn't retrieve zlib1g" error?03:44
gm78oofnik, should there be an option in the BIOS when i reboot to check that sort of thing?03:44
Strifedoes that mean that the iso I downloaded was corrupt?03:44
punkrockguy318CarlFK, where can I get some docs on using this?03:44
oofnikusually all BIOS menus have a hardware monitor page03:44
KhaBalI have a C-media CMI 8738 sound card, it seems to not work on linux, so in order to fix it i downloaded the driver from the following site http://www.cmedia.com.tw/download/OS-e-cmi8738_linux.htm I downloaded file 1 for the driver but the next 2 are required for the right kernal, Im using the latest version of ubuntu and there seems to be no patch for the latest kernel what do i do?03:45
meminHow can i create a .xinit script, in my home folder, containing "/usr/share/xpde/bin/startxpde"?03:45
oofnikit will list temperatures and fan speeds and such03:45
CarlFK http://gallery.menalto.com/03:45
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gm78oofnik, alright, im going to reboot, ill let u know what it says03:45
gm78tty in a bit03:45
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keffoanyone else using dualboot?03:46
pietro_spinakeffo: yep03:46
Strifekeffo: on my desktop.... windows and debian03:46
keffocan you guys post yer menu.lst03:47
keffogot some bootingprobs03:47
DerumHey, I was wondering " what is the best way to begin to learn all that linux has to offer, especially how to use terminal well and learning all the commands"?03:47
oofnikKhaBal what kernel do you have?03:47
KhaBalthe latest kernel on ubuntu03:47
pietro_spinanot here... but do you have a thread in ubuntu forums?03:47
KhaBalumm currently im using the latest ubuntu03:47
KhaBaland i havent touched the kernel after installation03:47
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wick2ohello03:47
bassinboyok, i have apache and php installed,  but i still can't get php to work03:48
Derumkeffo, I use dualboot03:48
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KhaBaloofnik: did you understand?03:48
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oofnikkeffo i am posting my menu.lst on pasebin, i hope it can help03:48
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pedingtough, *stabs apt-get*03:48
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Derumkeffo, a small portion of my memory is devoted to windows Xp (Cough SISTER Cough) while the main portion of my memory is UBUNTU03:48
uber_newberhey strife, i found this but i have no clue how to do ne of it        http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?Installation03:48
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gm78oofnik, ummmm, is it just me, or is 52 deg. Celcius way too hot for the cpu????03:49
gm78oofnik, im hoping its just me03:49
oofnik52 deg. is kind of hot.. mine runs at about 45 c03:49
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oofnikwhat CPU is it?03:50
goldfishuber_newber: still trying to install ndiswrapper?03:50
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oofnikkeffo, here you go http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/27603:50
bassinboyshould have got AMD :P03:50
gm78oofnik, Athlon XP 2200+03:50
bassinboyouch.03:50
oofnikgm78 what kind of heatsink?03:50
oofnikhaha bassinboy03:50
gm78will 52 deg burn it out or melt it?03:50
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bassinboyclean out you heatsink/fan.. and re apply thermalgreese03:50
oofnikhaha, it won't melt it but it puts stress on the chip..03:50
goldfishwick2o: have u added multiverse and universe to your sources?03:50
bassinboywick2o: portage my friend..03:50
gm78oofnik, how do i check what kind of heatsink....and how do i regrease it?03:51
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uber_newbergoldfish> ya03:51
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oofnikKhaBal unfortunately i don't have any experience with your soundcard.. have you searched ubuntu forums?03:51
keffoso, hows the easiest way to check what partition is what.. i mean the "root (hd0,0) something something)03:51
keffocant get it working03:51
KhaBalyes03:51
pietro_spinakeffo: I run windows from 1st partition on slave drive... if this is similar to your setup I can help03:51
KhaBali even posted myself no response03:51
goldfishuber_newber: have you added the extra repos to your sources.list?03:51
keffopietro_spina, yes, same here i guess03:52
oofnikdamn dcc chat03:52
uber_newberumm no, i dont even know waht that is03:52
wick2ogoldfish: i have uncommented everying in the sources.list03:52
goldfishwick2o: kk03:52
wick2ois there something im missing?03:52
pietro_spinakeffo: not exactly something you should be gessing :-)03:52
goldfishuber_newber: ok, no probs.03:52
keffopietro_spina, shoot.. im 95% sure03:52
keffoits late, and im very tired03:52
KhaBalI have a C-media CMI 8738 sound card, it seems to not work on linux, so in order to fix it i downloaded the driver from the following site http://www.cmedia.com.tw/download/OS-e-cmi8738_linux.htm I downloaded file 1 for the driver but the next 2 are required for the right kernal, Im using the latest version of ubuntu and there seems to be no patch for the latest kernel what do i do?03:52
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pietro_spinakeffo: I had to install windows on the disk when it was a master, then swapped them around...03:53
keffothat sounds like the lamest03:53
pedingtoWhat could be causing an MD5Sum mismatch in apt-get?03:53
oofnikKhaBal check this out: http://tinyurl.com/dkqur03:53
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keffopietro_spina, but you couldnt start windows in anyways?03:53
keffobefore that..?03:53
oofnikkeffo did you take a look at my menu.lst?03:54
keffooofnik, didnt help very much, thanks anyway :<03:54
zooplehello people. on intalling LIMEWIRE: Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...03:54
zoopleConfiguring the installer for this system's environment...03:54
zoopleNo Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH03:54
zoopleenvironment variable.  You must install a VM prior to03:54
zooplerunning this program.03:54
oofnikoh, alright, sorry hah03:54
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KhaBaloofnik: is that the right kernel?03:54
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pietro_spinakeffo: If you did something similar the you will have to use the map( ) command and rootnoverify also... Hang on I'll post a link..03:55
oofniki didn't download it but i think it's just source.. so it shouldn't matter03:55
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DerumWhats the best way to get to learn more about linux and learn all of its commands?03:55
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iDennisAnyone know how to format a usb stick in Ubuntu?03:56
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oofnikiDennis do you want it to be vfat?03:56
iDennisWell, is that the best to use?03:56
oofnikif you want it to be viewable in windows03:57
iDennisI want to be able to use it with all PCs03:57
iDennisyeah03:57
gm78oofnik, hey....just shut down the computer...using another one in the house now. I lucked out, my room-mate was on her way to return a router and i caught her just as she was leaving the store...she is picking up some thermal grease :)03:57
oofnikiDennis i can't remember the format command.. ehh sorry03:57
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gm78oofnik, what is the melting point of a cpu do u think? :-P03:57
oofnikhaha gm78 good job03:57
oofniki think AMD chips are rated to 85 c max or so03:58
pietro_spinakeffo: an old post of mine... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=213084#post21308403:58
zoopleHow do i intall a Java VM?03:58
oofnikso technically you're safe, but you could have been under heavy load and you probably passed 60c at some point03:58
gm78zoople, open a private chat ill walk u through it03:58
iDennisI know it's a stupid question, but can anyone else help me format my usb stick03:59
keffopietro_spina, thank you very much.. ill try03:59
gm78oofnik, good, it should be fine then03:59
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pietro_spinakeffo: np03:59
gm78iDennis, which device is it, sda?03:59
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iDennisyes04:00
iDennisgm78, yes. Sorry04:00
ECJBmkfs.vfat /dev/sda ??04:00
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oofnikmkfs -t vfat /dev/sda i think04:01
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gm78iDennis, either mkfs.vfat /dev/sda or mkfs.vfat /dev/sda104:01
tmanHello there.  I'm new to Ubuntu.  I am having trouble setting up multimedia with my Ubuntu.  Can anyone help?04:02
gm78iDennis, one of those will work04:02
iDennisgm78, I'm sorry it is sda104:02
gm78sda is the device, sda1 is the partition04:02
iDennisI just need to unmount it. Then test it04:02
iDennisI see.04:02
oofniktman, what's the specific problem?04:02
gm78ok, unmount it (but dont eject it) and then do that format, then eject it, and plug it back in04:02
gm78iDennis, sorry, read above post04:02
tmana couple.  1, I can't get wmv to stream to Totem.04:02
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iDennisgm78, By eject do you mean, just pull it out?04:03
oofniktman did you install the w32codecs?04:03
tmanI have installed all w32Codecs.04:03
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keffoworks fine pietro_spina ! thank you so much04:03
gm78iDennis, NO04:03
oofnikah.. well do you have totem-gstreamer? you need totem-xine to use the w32codecs04:03
gm78iDennis, eject /dev/sda04:03
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oofnikwhat does eject do gm78?04:04
pietro_spinakeffo: Excellent04:04
tmanHow do I check for Totem-Xine?04:04
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oofniktman in totem, go to Help -> About04:04
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oofnikand it will tell you if you're using gstreamer or xine04:04
pedingtoWhy does apt-get hate me so?  I'm getting an MD5Sum mismatch on something its trying to fetch.04:05
iDennisgm78, Thank you very much. I have noted everything, so I will remember. I appreciate the help. Everything worked out great04:05
tmanHold on, I did a apt-cache search...  I let you know in a sec...04:05
gm78tman, i think there is a totem-xine package that replaces totem-gstreamer04:05
gm78iDennis, no problem04:05
oofnikyeah gm78 thats what he needs to do04:05
wick2ono apt-get for the wpa suppliment? anyone know of a tut for setting this up in ubuntu?04:05
tmanapt-cache tells you what is installed on your system, correct?04:06
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wick2omisfit_toy: agreed, i am on the same boat04:06
oofnikyes misfit_toy, it seems a lot of ubuntu users switch from fedora, that's what i did haha04:07
kwilcoxanyone handy with ACPI errors during installation?04:07
oofnikusually because they're sick of RPM :-P04:07
misfit_toywick2o, after watching my HD churn last night for the 8000th time, I said f it and went for it.04:07
misfit_toytesting xchat color here04:08
pedingtoAnyone got an idea of how I can fix my apt-get? lol04:08
misfit_toydarnit...04:08
misfit_toyagain04:08
misfit_toysheesh04:08
wick2oped: apt-get update?04:08
flodinei guys will ubuntu see my soundblaster card04:08
pedingtofails at one of them04:09
tmanIs there another mirror to use for "ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net"?  This one seems to be not responding.04:09
tmanNevermind...04:09
pedingtoI get an MD5Sum mismatch04:09
flodinewill ubuntu see 32bit sound cards04:09
gm78flodine, what kind of sound card??? check if it is compatable with linux (google should help u with that)04:10
wick2omisfit_toy: only prob im having is getting wpa setup for my wireless04:10
misfit_toywick2o, ndiswrapper will fix that, I'm onto that next04:11
kwilcoxwick2o, which wirless device are you using04:11
oofniktman how's it coming?04:11
pedingtoanyway night folks.04:11
tmanOk, installing the totem-xine application did it!  Now on to the DVD.04:11
gm78flodine, really depends on the card.....u need the chipset and the model number....a good way to test it out is with a live cd04:11
wick2oipw2100 or 2200 i forget off the top of my head04:11
gm78download knoppix and see if it detects your sound card04:11
oofnikok cool.. i haven't tried dvd yet so i don't know if i can help04:11
oofniki think you need the css decryption libs04:12
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tmanYeah, I got those as well.04:12
wick2okwilcox: the card works..im using it now on a neibors wireless connection that doesnt have any encryption04:12
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wick2oand if i enable wep encrypting then i can connected to my home network, but i prefer to use wpa04:12
tmanIt tells me something about not being able to open dvd://04:12
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kwilcoxwick2o, ok i thought you were having trouble getting it to work04:12
wick2ojust getting the wpa stuff setup04:13
oofniktman, thats odd.. let me go get a dvd and try it out04:13
gm78tman, u might need to install libdvdcss04:13
gm78tman, its not in the repos...u have to compile it, but it is incredibly easy to compile04:13
tmanOk, that totem-xine must have cured alot.  That got my dvd working as well.04:14
gm78tman, libdvdcss is a nice thing to have anyways. i use it to rip my dvds to hard disk (not by itself of course)04:14
kwilcoxautoGK for linux is needed o.0 someone get on that!04:15
tmanI take that back.  Here is the error just poped up after playing two frames: "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?"04:15
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gm78tman, open a private chat with me, ill walk u thru install libdvdcss04:16
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tmanI already have them installed.  Maybe it's a configuration thing?04:17
gm78tman, u already have libdvdcss installed??? unless u grabbed it from an unsupported repo or already compiled it urself, u dont have it04:17
oofnikheh tman dvd works for me.. good luck haha04:17
absinthe_I'm using gdesklets/starterbar and I want to create a starter for Synaptic. I have but it says I must be root to use it.04:18
kwilcoxAnyone farmiliar with acpi errors upon installation?04:18
absinthe_How can I have it ask for passwd like the shortcut in administration?04:18
wick2oanyone have probs with ettercap-gtk?04:18
wick2oim getting an "the error was 'ABadIDChoice"04:19
rustyNew to linux and ubuntu. I want to play mp3s in music player. looked for XMMS in my synapic package manager. Nothing by that name there. I running ubuntu on a pretty old PC. Where is my XMMS package?04:19
gm78tman, started a private chat with u, ill walk u through installing it there04:19
pietro_spinaabsinthe_: gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic04:19
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oofnikcan anyone test something quick for me please04:19
StrifeFINALLY installing correctly...04:19
oofnikjust open gstreamer-properties04:19
absinthe_pietro_spina, Thank you!04:19
iratsuI get the following error when trying to run X with the nvidia driver: (EE) NVIDIA(0): The NVIDIA kernel module does not appear to be receiving interrupts generated by the NVIDIA graphics device. Please see the FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS section in the README for additional information    Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device!     *** Aborting ***    (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"    (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usa04:19
iratsuble configuration.04:19
gm78rusty : xmms should be there.....it is a supported package as far as i know04:19
gm78rusty, vlc plays everything btw04:20
pietro_spinaabsinthe_: np04:20
rustywhat is vlc?04:20
gm78oofnik, got it opened04:20
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gm78rusty, a media player04:20
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gm78rusty, does video and stuff too04:20
kwilcoxit stands for Video Lan something... it plays video media04:20
oofnikgm78 in the video tab whats selected for input?04:20
rustywhere do i get vlc?04:21
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kwilcoxwww.videolan.org04:21
absinthe_one more question. Beep media player works great except every once in awhile it will pause play. I have to hit pause and then unpause to fix it04:21
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gm78rusty, it is in synaptic if u enable universe and multiverse04:21
gm78oofnik, video4linux04:21
odie5533Is there a way to minimise RAM usage by disabling daemons? and how?04:21
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oofnikgm78 does it test correctly?04:22
evaderHi. I'm running breezy and VMware errors during install saying that gcc 4.0.1 isn't supported...04:22
nomasteryodabob2, anyone on Ubuntu team working on making Bluetooth work as it does in SuSE 9.3?04:22
tmanwould I be able to get libdvdcss if I have universe and multiverse on?04:22
gm78oofnik, it shows a grey snowy line at the top of the black window...so i guess so :P04:22
nomasteryodabob2, I can turn on my Bluetooth mouse and it just works04:22
oofnikis the pipeline 'v4lsrc?04:22
gm78tman, nope....ubuntu does not ship it at all. there has already been a lawsuit over it04:22
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gm78oofnik, yes04:23
Ubuntu_Brazilhello all. How can I install Ubuntu with enlightnment?04:23
oofnikdamn well why doesn't mine work.. argh04:23
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josudo apt-get install libpt-pluins-v4l wont instal how its call then?04:23
nomasteryodaoofnik, did you install the whole win32 codecs package and mplayer?04:23
nomasteryodai think when you do that it will install.04:24
absinthe_one more question. Beep media player works great except every once in awhile it will pause play. I have to hit pause and then unpause to fix it04:24
oofnikyep nomasteryoda i got that04:24
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nomasteryodaat least on mine... but i may have added some other repos04:24
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oofnikit's not a codec issue, it's the video4linux pipeline04:24
nomasteryodaright04:24
gm78oofnik, im not sure04:24
rustyMy choices for vlc are debian, familiar, suse, mandrake, red hat, fedora. Which one workks with ubuntu?04:24
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gm78oofnik, lol, i suck at helping u fix problems and ur good at helping me fix problems :-P04:25
oofnikhaha gm78 you just have simpler problems!04:25
oofnikoh well.. so does anyone else want to help me fix my video4linux problem04:25
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jowen i run xawtv /dev/video0  working but not abel to do in gnomemeeting that takes /dev/video104:26
nomasteryodaoofnik, other dialog box04:26
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jonot pusbul to make /dev/video0  in gnomeeting?04:26
_unomeanyone knows how to change desktop background from terminal?04:26
oofnikjo just make a sym link from /dev/video0 to /dev/video104:27
gm78oofnik, lol04:27
jodoint no hao w to do that04:27
oofniksudo ln -s /dev/video0 /dev/video104:27
absinthe_I'm using Beep Media Player. It pauses play while I'm browsing the internet (firefox) at random. I have to hit pause/unpause to get play to resume. Anyone know how to fix this?04:28
rustyI want to download vlc for ubuntu. which version works: debian, familiar, mandrade, YOPY, fedora04:28
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jowont work oredy ther04:29
absinthe_rusty, use debian04:29
jobut hawo to get v4l104:29
jotha wil fix it04:29
rustythanks, absinthe04:29
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absinthe_rusty, from terminal do "sudo dpkg -i "name of vlcpackage.deb"04:29
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absinthe_rusty, np04:29
jobefor it was  apt-get install libpt-pluins-v4l04:30
jobut not longer there04:30
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gm78absinthe_, do u happen to have esd running?04:30
absinthe_gm78, I am using Alsa.04:30
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absinthe_It's working fine now. It's only when I'm using the mouse+browser04:31
absinthe_gm78, It's working fine now. It's only when I'm using the mouse+browser04:31
finiteIs there a website with information/experiences etc on Ubuntu on laptops/notebooks? Especially with respect to off-the-shelf ones.04:31
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oofnikwhat's the difference between v4l and v4l2?04:33
jois ther any amsn video suport yes andt wil it work in gaim?04:33
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oofnikjo, not yet i don't think.. did you ever get your video thing working04:33
jov4l2 wont run on gnomeeting04:33
jo v4l wil run04:34
joon my gentoo box works great04:34
jobut wen i select  v4l2  wont work same in heren but in here not abel to select  v4l04:34
oofnikjo i can't get v4l to work either.. strange04:35
join xawtv i see my self04:35
absinthe_Will removing ssh alter performance on my box?04:35
jobut in gnomeeting it syest wont /dev/vedeo0 its taking /dev/vedeo1 al the them04:36
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c_rodgehow can i install java on ubuntu 4.1004:37
joi no its a bug04:37
jodo the fix things fast in urbuntu04:37
oofnikguys when i cat /dev/video0 i get this: /dev/video0: Cannot allocate memory04:37
oofnikany ideas?04:38
joore do i have to wait andt wait en wait04:38
pietro_spinaabsinthe_: I think ubuntu just gived you the client... sshd is not running by default..04:38
c_rodgehow can i install java in ubuntu 4.1004:38
pietro_spinaabsinthe_: gived =gives04:38
cast_/etc/init.d/ssh start04:38
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bimberic_rodge: check here (btw 4.10 is warty) ...04:39
bimberi!java04:39
ubotuhmm... java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java04:39
IceDC571hmm.. what advantages does warty have over hoary?04:39
finitec_rodge, another option is to download java from Sun's website and run the installer (assuming x86).04:39
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absinthe_pietro_spina, Thanks04:39
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jasmuzIceDC571: none04:41
pietro_spinaabsinthe_: if you run the ssh server per cast's example be sure you have srtong passwords as you will be scanned....04:41
bimberiIceDC571: warty is the prior release.  Older but still supported04:41
jopwc Philips webcam module version 10.0.6-unofficial loaded.04:41
jopwc Logitech QuickCam 4000 Pro USB webcam detected.04:41
joandt stil wont work04:41
pietro_spinaabsinthe_: It's real no big deal though, just fills up some logs :-)04:42
johow to forst gnomeeting to take /dev/video0 grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr04:42
absinthe_pietro_spina, heh, ok. I don't use ssh so I'm removing i04:42
pietro_spinaabsinthe_: I altered the port i run it on...04:43
join stad of my tv kaard  gr04:43
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VinhAny one know how to line syntax how to mount a partition of hdb?04:43
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IceDC571i was just wondering why people still used it04:43
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IceDC571too lazy to upgrade eh?04:43
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Vinherr i mean hda04:43
pietro_spinaabsinthe_: oh... then that will save you like whole 100kb of space hehehe04:43
wick2oumm apt-get wapsupplicant doesnt work, its this a mistake or am i missing a source in myu sources.list04:43
jowen i wont to go run unstabel testing how to handel04:43
absinthe_pietro_spina, Bah! I'm paranoid so I removed it. lol04:44
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dtsevery time i upgrade my kernel all my grub configuration changes get overwritten and my system becomes unusable, how can I prevent this?04:44
jorun gentoo04:44
finitedts, keep the last known04:44
dtsfinite last known what?04:44
absinthe_pietro_spina, I'm also a space-freak. I need every available kb of free space. I'm rather obsessive about it =)04:44
finitedts, keep the last known good menu item under the autmatic configuration line.04:44
finitedts, sorry about that.04:44
dtsfinite is there a seperate automatic configration file?04:45
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pietro_spinaabsinthe_: I was getting an almost constant scan from Sogang University In Korea untill I changed th port.... (grin) now nothing...04:45
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finiteIn the file /boot/grub/menu.lst04:45
oofnik when i cat /dev/video0 i get this: /dev/video0: Cannot allocate memory ... anyone know what could be going on? i have 1 GB of ram...04:46
johm04:46
c_rodgeok if i go to suns website and download it, how do i install it04:46
absinthe_pietro_spina, Pluggin the holes in your boat? =)04:46
pietro_spinaabsinthe_: so you used to defrag everyother day in your windows days?04:46
finitedts, there is a line that says "end debian automagic kernels list" (in all caps).04:46
absinthe_pietro_spina, lol, yes04:46
finitedts, in the file /boot/grub/menu.lst04:46
absinthe_pietro_spina, I'd uninstall programs that I hadn't used for awhile then reinstall them days later all the time04:47
jois ther not yet video skype in urbunto04:47
dtsfinite and everything after that get'ssaved?04:47
dtsthanks i'll try that04:47
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oofnikjo do you mean ubuntu? whats up with your spelling04:48
c_rodgei really need help, i need java,04:48
c_rodgefor warty04:48
pietro_spinaabsinthe_: they kept trying to login as root and a dictionary of passwords... but I had disabled  remote root login they were just banging on the door and filling my logs... hehe04:48
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oofnikc_rodge it's not in synaptic?04:48
wick2oapt-get wpasupplicant no worky...any help?04:48
c_rodgewhere would i check it in there04:48
oofnikjust search for j2re04:48
Taken_By_KristinReally quick gentlemen...howcome every time I restart my computer, I have to redo my wireless connection?04:49
finitedts, Everything after that is retained. I had the same problem (wrong partitions etc in automatically generated lines)04:49
pietro_spinaabsinthe_: I used to do that... now I'm just a distro junkie...04:49
Vinh/dev/hda1       /media/windows  vfat    umask=000       0       0 <<--- now what do i change to show the 2nd fat partiion on the same drive, hda?04:49
goldfishTaken_By_Kristin: what do you mean 'redo' ?04:49
Taken_By_KristinWell my wireless card is still installed.04:49
absinthe_pietro_spina, Heh, some people are persistent.04:49
josudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla04:49
Taken_By_KristinI just have to type iwlan0 scan and stuff.04:49
Taken_By_KristinAll over again.04:49
Taken_By_KristinAnd then configure the settings.04:49
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pietro_spinaabsinthe_: code red worms even more so....04:50
c_rodgeit says it is not installable04:50
Taken_By_KristinIs there a way to stop that so I'll always be connected?04:50
finitedts, If you know a section that works, keep a copy of it under that demarking line. Use that to boot in. And then change the list manually....04:50
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c_rodgeit says not installable, in synptic04:51
oofnikc_rodge.. weird.. what is the exact message04:51
finitedts, ...so that you get it at the top as your default one. Also, you could correcti it manually after each kernel update, before shutting down.04:51
advantage1_how do i make my konsole transperint04:52
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iratsuI get the following error when trying to run X with the nvidia driver: (EE) NVIDIA(0): The NVIDIA kernel module does not appear to be receiving interrupts generated by the NVIDIA graphics device. Please see the FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS section in the README for additional information    Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device!     *** Aborting ***    (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"    (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usa04:52
iratsuble configuration.04:52
dtsfinite, is there a way i can change the default kernel automatically?04:52
c_rodgecould not mark all packages for installation04:52
Taken_By_KristinHowcome I have to reconfigure my wireless internet connection every time I restart?04:52
advantage1_how do i make my konsole  transperent04:52
parabolizeadvantage1_: ask in #kubuntu04:53
advantage1_where am eye ?04:53
parabolize#ubuntu04:53
advantage1_ok04:53
advantage1_how do i get there04:53
parabolizetype /join #kubuntu04:53
Taken_By_KristinDouble click #kubuntu04:53
Taken_By_KristinOr that.04:53
Taken_By_KristinMy way is easier.  =P04:54
finitedts, I am not sure; not a sensible one anyway :-) and :-(04:54
Taken_By_KristinParabolize you think you can help me out really quick?04:54
dtsfinite, heh04:54
Taken_By_KristinHowcome I have to reconfigure my wireless internet connection every time I restart?04:54
concept10dts, you can set default kernel in /boot/grub/menu.lst04:54
liableTaken_By_Kristin: such as essid?04:55
ECJBCan I use LOADLIN to boot the live CD off my HD?04:55
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parabolizeI'm no good with wireless. sorry04:55
goldfishTaken_By_Kristin: you got dhcp set up?04:55
Taken_By_KristinYeah I do.04:55
Taken_By_KristinGoldfish.04:55
Taken_By_KristinAnd not like that Liable.04:55
Taken_By_KristinI still have my wireless card installed it still detects it after typing 'ndiswrapper -l'04:55
Taken_By_KristinI just have to scan for it again and then configure it.04:56
joLoaded 156 plugins with 302 features.04:56
goldfishTaken_By_Kristin: i think u can use dhclient iwlan004:56
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goldfishTaken_By_Kristin: oh, ok.04:56
goldfishhmmm04:56
c_rodgei still cant get java, i need it to play a game on internet04:56
dtsconcept10, can i select the default kernel to be the option i selected at my last boot?04:56
goldfishmaybe you could make a startup script to do it for you Taken_By_Kristin04:56
Strifec_rodge: java.sun.com04:56
Taken_By_KristinDoes everyone have to do that who connects wirelessly?04:56
c_rodgewhat does that have04:56
goldfishTaken_By_Kristin: i did04:57
goldfish!java04:57
ubotuwell, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java04:57
goldfishc_rodge: follow that link04:57
absinthe_I'm using Beep Media Player. It pauses play while I'm browsing the internet (firefox) at random. I have to hit pause/unpause to get play to resume. Anyone know how to fix this?04:57
Taken_By_KristinHmm...is it difficult?  Do you think you can give me a quick run through?04:57
StrifeTaken_By_Kristin: so you mean you don't load ndiswrapper in /etc/modules?04:57
Taken_By_KristinOr show me a site that does?04:57
Taken_By_KristinNo I don't Strife.04:57
StrifeTaken_By_Kristin: sudo echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules04:57
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Taken_By_KristinIt sounds like the start up script would work though, Goldfish.04:58
StrifeTaken_By_Kristin: methinks04:58
Taken_By_KristinSo just type 'sudo echo ndiswrapper /etc/modules'04:58
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Taken_By_KristinAnd I should be good?04:58
StrifeTaken_By_Kristin: no, sudo echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules04:58
bob2no04:58
bob2Strife: that won't work either04:58
Taken_By_KristinOk.04:58
Taken_By_KristinThanks Strife.04:58
Strifebob2: hrm?04:58
StrifeTaken_By_Kristin: wait04:58
bob2Taken_By_Kristin: echo ndiswrapper | sudo tee /etc/modules04:58
c_rodgewhat do i do after i go to java.sun.com04:59
CarlFKheh04:59
goldfishc_rodge: follow the java link04:59
Taken_By_KristinOh yeah...Seveas was mentioning something like that heh...04:59
Strifebob2: uh, why?04:59
bob2Strife: (the shell redirection which does the writing will run as you, not root)04:59
CarlFKthere has got to be a beter way...04:59
Taken_By_KristinThanks Bob2, Strife, and goldfish!04:59
c_rodgewhat java link04:59
Taken_By_KristinThat takes care of redoing my reconfiguring when I restart?04:59
bob2Strife: something like sudo "sh -c echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules" is another option04:59
goldfish!java04:59
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java04:59
goldfishc_rodge: that one :)04:59
ThunderguyHey, anyone know how I would set a default resolution in Hoary Hedgehog, changing X resolutions everytime I log in is getting annoying.04:59
Strifebob2: interesting.... oh well, I always edit it rather than echoing :)04:59
c_rodgewhich04:59
c_rodgegoldfish can i pm u05:00
goldfishno !05:00
oofnikdoes anyone have a working video4linux device05:00
goldfishim a bit busy , sorry05:00
c_rodgeok05:00
c_rodgebut which link05:00
concept10Thunderguy, edit05:00
Thunderguyconcept10: What would I edit though?05:00
goldfishc_rodge: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java05:01
concept10Thunderguy, Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to remove unwanted video resolutions05:01
c_rodgei have tried that and i didnt know what to do05:01
Strifec_rodge: do what I do, just download the jdk and install it somewhere, add that to your path05:01
ECJBWhat's the difference between 'sudo' and 'su'?  (Don't have Linux running to go play with MAN or INFO...)05:01
absinthe_Has anyone gotten Electric Sheep working with Ubunut?05:01
StrifeI like to put things like that in either /opt or /usr/local05:02
c_rodgei have no idea what ur talking about05:02
c_rodgestrife05:02
Thunderguyconcept10: Thanks man, btw, is the sync rates in the same file?05:02
goldfishECJB: su is switch user, sudo is superuser do, i.e runa command with root priveleges05:02
ThunderguyIm on 60hz05:02
orenECJB: su gives you a shell, and requires the root password, sudo is a system that lets you run certain commands (or even a shell) as root by authenticating as yourself05:02
concept10Thunderguy, not sure right off hand05:02
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CarlFKhey bob2 - wana see a weird one?  isa vga = http://pictures.foxshare.net/carl/temp/Jun27/p1010004.jpg05:02
shmoolikhello05:03
shmooliki m looking for quick start for openoffice05:03
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ECJBhttp://www.openoffice.org/about_us/new.html05:04
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c_rodgestrife, im downloading the jdk, no how do i install it05:05
shmoolikECJB,  thanks but i mlooking for deb package05:05
battlecatHi can you use apt to instlal something off of a CD?05:05
StrifeCarlFK: ooh, I saw that plenty of times today05:05
ECJBOh - you mean you can't find the system tray thingie...05:05
concept10Thunderguy, I dont see the refresh rates, I had to delete those unwanted resoltions today, that was really bugging me too05:05
Strifec_rodge: you extract it and run the binary install file as root, by following the directions05:05
bob2CarlFK: hah05:05
CarlFKStrife - i just figured out the cause: isa vga card.05:05
c_rodgeim a total noob so i dont really have agood idea what ur talking about05:05
StrifeI meant CarlFK on that last one05:06
Strifeerm05:06
Strifeno05:06
c_rodgeok after i download it, where do i extract it05:06
Strifenevermind05:06
Thunderguyconcept10: Well Thanks again.05:06
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Strifewhereever the hell you want, c_rodge05:06
dave_I only have 1 setting for my screen resolution05:06
ThunderguyAny reason why my xmms would crash everytime I open it?05:06
Strifec_rodge: like I said, I like putting that stuff in either /opt or /usr/local/05:06
c_rodgeit doesnt matter, ok after i do that how do i install as root05:06
bob2CarlFK: yeah, multiple cards makes multiseat kick in05:06
Strifewith sudo05:06
Strifewhat is multiseat?05:06
bob2aiui05:06
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c_rodgestrife, can i pm u05:07
Strifeno I am about to leave05:07
odie5533How do I check what programs are using a device I am trying to unmount?05:07
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c_rodgeo ok05:07
ECJBhttp://documentation.openoffice.org/05:07
c_rodgebut how do i put it in opt or /usr/local/05:07
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goldfishodie5533: not letting you unmount?05:08
Strife c_rodge sudo mv whatever /opt05:08
odie5533goldfish: sure isnt05:08
Strifeok later gentlemen (and possibly one or two ladies)05:08
c_rodgewhat is whateever05:08
c_rodgelike java download05:08
goldfishodie5533: there is a force option05:08
wick2oanyone have exp install wpa_supplicant manually?05:08
odie5533-f?05:08
odie5533tried that05:08
goldfishhmmmm05:08
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c_rodgecan anyone else help me in installin java05:09
ECJBhttp://java.com/ may be able to help.05:09
c_rodgeive looked there, didnt really help05:09
monchichiwhat java are you trying to install?05:10
orentry searching in synaptic for 'java'05:10
monchichii dont think its in synaptic unless you add an extra repository05:11
_simplelook at the ubuntu starters guide05:11
c_rodgesun java05:11
c_rodgei guess i need it to play a game05:11
monchichiuse blackdown java, theres ubuntu packages floating around somewhere05:11
c_rodgeon interneyt05:11
c_rodgeive tried that too, it says not installable05:12
monchichidoes it say why?05:12
pietro_spina!java05:12
ubotujava is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java05:12
_simplehttp://ubuntuguide.org/#jre ?05:12
battlecatwill a linux that is optimized for i686 work on a p3-60005:12
crimsunyes05:12
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c_rodgeim downloading the jdk right noew05:13
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c_rodgenow05:13
absinthe_I'm using firestarter how can I allow traffic in/out on a certain port (for bittorent)?05:13
battlecatwas that a yes at me crimsun?05:13
monchichiwait, you want the jre not the jdk05:13
c_rodgewhere can i find it05:13
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virguleDo I really need 'hotplug'?05:13
monchichivirgule: if you use usb or pcmcia, then probably yes05:14
wick2oam i the ONLY one who cant get wpa_supplicant from apt-get?05:14
monchichic_rodge, the jre is included in the jdk, so just download that05:14
monchichiits just overkill is all05:14
monchichijdk is for java programmers05:15
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c_rodgeman i really need to get this, i have no idea what im doing05:15
absinthe_I'm using firestarter how can I allow traffic in/out on a certain port (for bittorent)?05:16
virguleonly a USB mice05:16
monchichiabsinthe_: make a rule05:16
CarlFKbob2 - who said mutiple cards?  1 isa vga card - thats all.05:16
absinthe_monchichi, How, and what should it contain?05:16
monchichiabsinthe, well, look at whos being blocked in the firestarter gui05:17
monchichiand right click and allow everyone to connect on that port05:17
nalioth_wrknabsinthe_: read this http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13005:17
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virguleSince I only have a USB mice --no other 'hotplugable' devices-- do I still need to run hotplug at boot?05:17
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nomasteryoda|wnalioth, hey thanks for that comment... now i'm playin with full debian05:18
absinthe_nalioth_wrkn, thanks05:18
monchichi6881 is the traditional BT port, but now it uses all kinds of weird ports05:18
goldfishtry not running it05:18
goldfishyeah05:18
monchichivirgule: im not sure.. but why turn it off?05:18
naliothnomasteryoda|w: the comment "he knows what he's doing"?05:18
goldfishalot of isp's are begininning to block 688105:18
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virguleit take ~20 seconds just for that.. I dont know patience ;)05:18
Varangerhi! I can make php and apache work together !05:19
Varangerhow can I do ?05:19
monchichivrigule, heh, fair enough, try turning it off and see what happens... you can always turn it back on if your mouse wont work05:19
virgulegot it...05:20
CarlFKVaranger - i have the ilne to make it happen... ust a asec05:20
monchichivaranger: just "sudo apt-get install apache2 php5"05:20
monchichior php405:20
CarlFKVaranger - just sudo apt-get install apache2 php405:21
CarlFKVaranger - do you plan on using mysql too? (aka LAMP)05:22
VarangerCarlFK: thanks! the problem was that I also needed universe !05:22
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VarangerCarlFK: for now, no... I am learning php first05:22
Varangerlater I'll start with mysql (the book I am reading has info on LAMP too...)05:23
VarangerCarlFK: great!05:23
CarlFKhere is my whole lamp line: sudo apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 apache2 php4 libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php4-mysql05:23
virguleok I sure need it mouse stopped working right away without outplug. 'alight05:23
CarlFKVaranger - then I install http://mamboserver.com05:24
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wick2oanyone know the debain main repository for synaptic?05:24
monchichivirgule: it shouldnt take 20 seconds to start the hotplug system... takes about 2 on my system05:24
CarlFKsomeday (maybe in a week or 2) I will have some real sites running that setup.  it is really fun ;)05:24
virgule300 Mhz.... ;)05:25
advantage1_join hay05:25
monchichido people bother looking things up in google anymore?05:25
virgulebut still I think yu are right lots of stuffs take loooong since im with ubuntu05:25
advantage1_how do i join05:25
monchichiouch 300 mhz...05:25
advantage1_a diferent room05:25
virguleboogle05:25
virgule..and still running 24/705:25
advantage1_how do i get email05:25
advantage1_anyone know how to get email ?05:26
virguleadvantage1: 'evolution' is the default mail client05:26
advantage1_i need help05:26
advantage1_what do i do05:26
CarlFKadvantage1_ - get it from where?05:26
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monchichiget email?05:27
advantage1_i need email05:27
advantage1_how do i get email05:27
monchichiadvantage1_: http://gmail.com05:27
monchichior are you kidding?05:27
monchichior do you want to serve your own email?05:28
advantage1_i want email05:28
naliothadvantage1_: www.gmail.com05:28
advantage1_like i wanna type email05:28
goldfishmutt05:28
Vinhin terminal, how do u log out as sudo root and gob ack to normal user?05:28
naliothadvantage1_: thunderbird, sylpheed, evolution, pine, mutt05:29
advantage1_exit05:29
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odie5533How do I make a link that will jump you to the target instead of hard link?05:29
naliothVinh: sudo only lasts 5 minutes, and if you dont put the 'sudo' in front of command, you are a regular user05:29
goldfishln -s05:29
advantage1_how do i install my windows 98 cd05:29
advantage1_?05:29
goldfisha.k.a soft-link05:29
goldfishadvantage1_: lol05:29
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Vinhanyway to not wait 5mins05:30
naliothmondays suck05:30
Vinhim mounting drive and testing to read only05:30
naliothVinh: don't use 'sudo'05:30
goldfishVinh: you can change it in the sudo config file05:30
Vinhand i can still write, must be in root?05:30
goldfishhmmm05:30
jasmuzadvantage1_: i think you are playing with us05:30
naliothjasmuz: yer troll detector isnt working?05:30
goldfishadvantage1_: asl wtf loel omfg pwnsauce cybarrrrr 11!!!oneone05:30
jasmuznalioth: no....it isnt05:31
Vinh/dev/hda5       /media/backupdrive  vfat    umask=0444       0       0   <--- thats what i have and i can still write to it :(05:31
advantage1_yeah..  jus kidden im a super linux nerd from the 5th  dimension..   jus messin05:31
goldfishmaybe that umask setting allows everyone to write to it Vinh05:31
goldfishi cant remember my umask im afriad05:32
naliothgoldfish: umask=0000 allows all users05:32
goldfishah right05:32
goldfishthanks05:32
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naliothgoldfish: don't thank me, i'm channeling someone in here (let me see who i can blame)05:33
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advantage1_i like crawl thru directories wit h ssh05:33
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Vinhif i do sudo *.. it still doesnt ask for password, how do i make it ask for password again?05:33
goldfishnalioth: :)05:33
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goldfishVinh: it wont ask for 5 minutes05:34
naliothVinh: the first time, it asks. you wait 5 or 10 minutes (am not sure of the timeout) and it will ask again05:34
KhaBalwish my sound was working05:34
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absinthe_I'm using Beep Media Player. It pauses play while I'm browsing the internet (firefox) at random. I have to hit pause/unpause to get play to resume. Anyone know how to fix this?05:34
naliothKhaBal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary05:34
advantage1_how do u go on interent05:34
monchichiabsinthe_: i would guess it's flash plugins that are interfering05:34
monchichiabsinthe_: turn on dmix for your card05:34
naliothabsinthe_: firefox suX0rs (my opinion)05:35
KhaBalwhenever i try to fbsetbg a picture it tells me to esetroot and eterm?05:35
KhaBalwhats the problem?05:35
absinthe_nalioth, What do you use?05:35
goldfishKhaBal: run 'fbsetbg -i'05:35
naliothabsinthe_: galeon and kazehakase05:35
absinthe_nalioth, What a name.05:35
Fazernalioth: have you used opera before?05:35
naliothFazer: way long ago when i (ab)used windows, i used opera05:36
KhaBalWarning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion05:36
KhaBalWarning: Unable to load any usable fontset05:36
monchichiadvantage1_: notice how you're being ignored...?05:36
Fazernalioth: and is galeon better?05:36
naliothabsinthe_: kazehakase is a japanese made gecko wrapper05:36
goldfishKhaBal: hmmm05:36
absinthe_nalioth, Oh ok.05:36
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naliothFazer: i stopped using non-free stuff a long time ago05:36
tclhalIf I add myself to a group I find that the change does not take effect until I log out and in again.  Is there a way to add onesself to a group and benefit immediately without logging out and back in again?05:36
naliothFazer: i'm a open source evangelist05:36
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Fazernalioth: I see..05:37
naliothFazer: i don't like adware05:37
absinthe_nalioth, Isn't Galeon using mozilla though?05:37
naliothFazer: even more than i don't like non-free stuff05:37
Fazernalioth: got the damn point.05:37
naliothabsinthe_: galeon, kazehakase both use the gecko engine05:38
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billytwowillyhow do I make evolution print nice calendars of all my stuff to do in a month?05:40
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KhaBalmake: imlib2-config: Command not found05:42
KhaBalmake: imlib2-config: Command not found05:42
KhaBalcc    -DPIXMAP_SUPPORT -DHAVE_UNISTD_H -o Esetroot Esetroot.c05:42
KhaBalmake: cc: Command not found05:42
KhaBalmake: *** [Esetroot]  Error 12705:42
KhaBalwhat does this mean?05:43
virguleimlib2-config is missing05:43
KhaBalsigh ok05:43
naliothKhaBal: install imlib and imlib-dev05:43
KhaBalis it in synaptic?05:43
naliothKhaBal: should be05:43
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mdzKhaBal: you'll also want to install build-essential, to fix the second error05:44
naliothmdz: good call (i'm tired)05:44
naliothor as we say in Texas, "ahm tarred"05:44
MisterMattiMoook so i just installed the new version of Ubuntu, but i cant get the sound to work.  I have Sound Blaster Audigy 2, and have looked through the Wiki but found very little.  Any ideas?05:45
KhaBalthere imlib105:45
crimsunMisterMattiMoo: amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on05:45
KhaBaltheres imlib1105:45
naliothMisterMattiMoo: gimme a minute, my browser is locked atm05:45
naliothMisterMattiMoo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary05:45
naliothMisterMattiMoo: crimsun knows best05:46
naliothKhaBal: install imlib205:46
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naliothand imlib2-dev05:46
monchichi KhaBal: there should be an imlib2 package in synaptic05:46
naliothKhaBal: and don't forget "build-essential"05:48
virguleoooh the packages name are libimlib2 and libimlib2-dev05:48
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MisterMattiMooOk cool, im trying it out right now.  I am a reborn linux person.  I havent used it in a while.  LOOONNNNG while05:48
brian_hey all05:48
CarlFKcrimsun- I was banned from -devel a while ago because the freenode server saw my 8 /join commands as a flood and would kick me, and auto connect would connec, then the joins, then the kick.. apparently for hours...05:48
brian_anyone have any idea why my sound just stopped working?05:48
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naliothbrian_: is the cat playing behind the puter?05:49
KhaBalit says insert cd05:49
brian_no05:49
CarlFKduh.. so now that I have that under control, can you unban me?05:49
brian_its plugged in05:49
KhaBali inserted still not working05:49
brian_it says esd cannot start pipeline or w/e05:49
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crimsunbrian_: what sound card?05:49
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brian_an onboard one.. my sb live would NOT work with esd so i decided to use the onboard05:49
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crimsunbrian_: which sblive do you have?05:50
brian_value05:50
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skuter_khayalanya saya05:50
crimsunbrian_: not the 7.1 nor the 24-bit, correct?05:50
hardcampa-That's wierd.. soundblasters should be liked by linux in general05:50
skuter_khayalansuma kamu sehat kah ni05:50
brian_dont think so05:50
crimsunbrian_: please make sure05:50
brian_sound blaster live value 3.1 i beleive05:50
brian_im NOT using it though05:50
brian_my onboard was working yesterday with esd05:51
skuter_khayalanfree sudah astro kan05:51
crimsunbrian_: cat /proc/asound/modules05:51
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KhaBalOMG05:51
KhaBalit says insert cd05:51
brian_0 snd_usb_audio05:51
brian_1 snd_intel8x005:51
brian_2 snd_emu10k105:51
KhaBalits allready inserted and its still saying it!05:51
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KhaBalubuntus dumb05:51
crimsunbrian_: heh, you have three sound devices05:52
brian_yeah05:52
crimsunbrian_: which do you want to use?05:52
brian_the onboard05:52
brian_intel8x005:52
brian_it was working yesterday05:52
brian_actually until i restarted lol05:52
brian_usb_audio is my webcam05:52
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crimsunbrian_: then do this: echo "options snd-usb-audio index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base && echo "options snd-emu10k1 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base05:53
crimsunbrian_: then you can: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload05:53
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crimsunbrian_: you rebooted with the usb webcam plugged in, probably, and it grabbed the first 'slot'05:54
brian_OH05:54
brian_someone plugged it back in05:54
brian_lol05:54
crimsunanyhow, after you execute those two commands, your on-board will be the primary one05:54
brian_do i do that with the quotes?05:54
crimsunyes05:54
crimsunuse that exact syntax05:54
crimsunjust copy and paste05:55
brian_the | are seperaters right?05:55
crimsunthey're pipe symbols, and they're essential05:55
crimsunjust copy and paste the commands I gave you05:55
brian_k05:55
brian_should it work or do i reboot05:55
crimsunyou can force-reload, like I said above, or you can reboot. Your choice.05:56
brian_alright05:56
brian_yeah... i got it so far but sound stops me everytime in linux05:56
brian_hell i even got the fglrx to work :P05:56
brian_thanks crimsun05:56
crimsunnp05:57
brian_its still a no go05:57
brian_:|05:57
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crimsuncat /proc/asound/modules05:57
brian_same as b405:57
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crimsunbrian_: then just reboot05:57
brian_kk05:57
brian_brb05:57
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J2Dopegday. will ubuntu work on a dell inspiron 6000 laptop??05:58
goldfishshould do05:58
goldfishworks fine on my inspiron 860005:58
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J2Dopegreat...  thanks goldfish05:59
J2Dopeno problems to report?05:59
goldfishnope05:59
KhaBalimlib2 isint in synaptic05:59
KhaBali found it a second ago05:59
KhaBalnow i try searching05:59
naliothi found a machine tonight that the livecd wouldnt boot on05:59
goldfishwell, i needed ndiswrapper for the internal wireless05:59
KhaBalnot there05:59
naliothamd 150005:59
CarlFKJ2Dope - what wifi nic does it have?05:59
goldfishbut that was easy enough05:59
J2Dopewifi nic?06:00
J2Dopehow can i tell CarlFK06:00
naliothbut it was cobbled together and the cdrom was wankered06:00
CarlFKJ2Dope - um... find the specs at dell.com, or boot a live cd and do lspci06:00
nomasteryoda|wJ2Dope, lspci06:00
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KhaBalPlease insert the disk labeled:06:01
KhaBalUbuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)06:01
KhaBalin drive /cdrom/ its allready inserted!!!06:01
nomasteryoda|wfinding specs at dell is pure shit06:01
KhaBalomg!06:01
J2Dopenomasteryoda im currently running windows06:01
nalioth_zZzZzZznomasteryoda|w: my faith in your abilitys was misplaced? (what statement?)06:01
J2Dopei have an intel Pro/Wireless 2200BG Network Controller06:01
nomasteryoda|wJ2Dope, you can look at the current driver version using Manage under my computer06:01
J2Dopesays windows hardware06:01
goldfishKhaBal: comment out the line containing cd , in /etc/apt/sources.list06:01
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nomasteryoda|wJ2Dope, drill down to the driver details06:02
goldfishJ2Dope: you will need to use ndiswrapper for that , or install the ipw2200 module, but it's esy enough.06:02
nomasteryoda|wi forget where06:02
goldfish*easy06:02
nomasteryoda|wubuntu has made it much easier06:02
J2Dopeits just some generic windows driver installed i think?06:02
KhaBalgoldfish: what do you mean? im in editor now06:02
goldfishKhaBal: does the first line mention cd ?06:03
KhaBaldeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (2005040706:03
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goldfishKhaBal: put a # at the start of that line06:03
goldfishsave and exit06:03
brian_hey again.. it is testing the pipeline ok crimsun but no sound...06:03
nomasteryoda|wnalioth_zZzZzZz, lol... where I mentioned using breezy06:03
goldfishthen run sudo apt-get update06:03
nomasteryoda|wand hosing it by upgrading to debian...lol06:03
nomasteryoda|wnn nalioth_zZzZzZz06:04
brian_never mind06:04
KhaBalgoldfish: it worked! thanx lol06:04
brian_thanks for helping me out there crimsun06:04
KhaBalgoldfish: you dont know how much stress that put me in06:04
J2Dopeone more Q... do i have to format my free partion to a linux file system? or can ubuntu do that for me?06:04
crimsunbrian_: paste the output from amixer onto pastebin.ca06:04
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brian_i got it06:04
crimsunk06:04
brian_i didnt have the volume up in the mixer *noob*06:04
crimsun:)06:04
crimsunZ time06:05
brian_my only other problem isnt important... in bzflags my keyboardoesnt except input06:05
brian_it just DIES06:05
nalioth_zZzZzZznomasteryoda|w: i'm still lost as to how you went from breezy to vanilla debian06:05
brian_and i have to restart to get out06:05
brian_lol06:05
brian_accept*06:05
goldfishKhaBal: np06:05
nomasteryoda|wnalioth_zZzZzZz, not completely debian from what i can tell06:05
nomasteryoda|wbut now i'm all theway there on this box06:05
goldfishJ2Dope: ubuntu cd does it all for you.06:05
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brian_thanks all06:06
nomasteryoda|wgot the netinstaller and am updating as we speak06:06
goldfishJ2Dope: what graphics card u got on it?06:06
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pepsixwhere do they make balloons?06:06
J2Dopea generic intel one06:06
goldfishk06:07
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geesushi!06:07
goldfishhello.06:07
nalioth_zZzZzZznomasteryoda|w: i don't even want to know....but as long as its workin06:07
geesus:D06:07
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J2Dopegoldfish: if u can give a quick answer. do i have to format my free partition, or will ubuntu do it?? im giving ubuntu 12gigs06:09
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goldfishJ2Dope: nah, leave it free, and let the cd do it for you.06:09
ER_JAGUARplease!!06:09
goldfishJ2Dope: http://www.antoniocheca.com/wp/content-text/ubuntu-inspiron6000.html06:09
ER_JAGUARi need to install bitchx06:09
J2Dopegoldfish thanks06:09
goldfishER_JAGUAR: sudo apt-get install bitchx06:09
ER_JAGUARthk06:09
goldfishirssi > bitchx06:09
goldfishtbh06:09
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dr_willis0_o06:10
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goldfish:)06:11
dr_willisgoldfish,  you KNOW it will happen06:12
KhaBalso many errors06:12
KhaBalEsetroot.c:21:22: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory06:12
KhaBalEsetroot.c:22:23: X11/Xutil.h: No such file or directory06:12
KhaBalEsetroot.c:23:23: X11/Xatom.h: No such file or directory06:12
KhaBalEsetroot.c:24:21: X11/Xos.h: No such file or directory06:12
KhaBalEsetroot.c:25:20: Imlib2.h: No such file or directory06:12
KhaBalwhat does all this mean06:12
goldfishwtf06:12
KhaBalthis is just a bit of error06:12
goldfishKhaBal: what are you trying to do?06:12
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KhaBalthere like times 10 more06:12
KhaBalim trying to get esetroot working06:13
goldfishKhaBal: have u got Eterm?06:13
KhaBalno06:13
KhaBalguess thats why?06:13
goldfishyou need to use that with the Eterm terminal06:13
goldfishyeah06:13
dr_willisKhaBal,  looks like you dont have the ImLib dev stuff installed?06:13
CarlFKany dev's want to see an error I got installing breezy-server? http://pictures.foxshare.net/carl/temp/Jun27/1119930781/p1010001.jpg06:13
KhaBali just installed that06:13
dr_willisKhaBal,  what exactly are you trying to do anyway?06:13
johell di instal nvidia andt som oter progies but nauw alsa wont run  alsamixer06:13
joNo mixer elems found06:13
goldfishKhaBal: sudo apt-get install feh06:14
jo?06:14
goldfishKhaBal: use that instead of esetroot06:14
goldfishworks fine for me06:14
jogen i fix alsa06:14
KhaBalim root nad it says could not get lock06:14
KhaBalvar/lib/dpkg/lock06:14
virgulesynaptic is running?06:15
goldfishhave u got synaptic open?06:15
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KhaBalyes.. :_06:15
goldfish:)06:15
goldfishclose it06:15
KhaBalyou guys know everything wish i did06:15
dr_willisKhaBal,  read, read, read..  then read some more. :P06:15
KhaBalwhere?06:15
KhaBaltldp.org?06:16
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virguleCarlFK: what does boostrap.log is saying06:16
goldfishKhaBal: just use ubuntu for a while06:16
dr_willisHit the bargin table at the book stores.. buy linux books.. keep them in the bathroom.. then eat a high fiber diet.06:16
dr_willis:)06:16
joits ther way to look for error06:16
josystem wide06:16
KhaBalsame error goldfish06:16
virgulehmm yeah..  Ubuntu is brown.. fiber.. kind of a mental picture   0_o06:17
KhaBalit just installed feh06:17
gm78oofnik, hey, im back, got the thermal whatever (cant remember the name put on) and the system seems to be running much faster, is that my imagination u think?06:17
KhaBalGoldFish: Same error mate06:17
goldfishKhaBal: yeah, now try 'fbsetbg -i'06:17
CarlFKvirgule - nothng interesting - I thought I posted it.. jsut a sec.06:17
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KhaBalfeh is a nice wallpapersetter. You won't have any problems.06:17
KhaBallol06:18
prcI have a problem06:18
goldfishKhaBal: ok, now try 'fbsetbg -f pathtofile'06:18
gm78prc, what kind of problem?06:18
KhaBali have to learn how apt-get works06:18
KhaBalany websites to it?06:18
goldfishman apt-get06:18
goldfish:)06:19
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dr_willisKhaBal,  several dozen06:19
goldfishgoogle06:19
prcWhen I load Ubuntu it plays music, but I can't get any other applications to play sounds06:19
goldfishthere's loads of info06:19
prce.g. SND06:19
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KhaBalhow did you know feh was in my sources.list ?06:19
goldfishbecause06:20
goldfishit's in the ubuntu repos06:20
goldfishand i searched myself06:20
KhaBalhmm i see06:20
goldfishapt-cache search filename06:20
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goldfishsearches the repos for a package06:20
KhaBalso to install thing you add them in sources.list then apt-get install <name of file>06:20
tamuhi..06:20
goldfishKhaBal: no06:20
goldfishKhaBal: just apt-get06:21
goldfishtamu: hello06:21
tamuhelloo06:21
goldfishKhaBal: your current sources.list should be fine.06:21
WMCoolmonhey, anyone know anything about getting cedega working on Hoary64?06:21
CarlFKvirgule - http://pictures.foxshare.net/carl/temp/Jun27/1119930781/bootstrap.log06:22
WMCoolmoni've heard it's possible to do it via 32-bit chroot and natively and am wondering which to try to get working first06:22
KhaBalgoldfish: what if i apt-get install mozilla?06:22
goldfishKhaBal: mozilla firefox?06:22
KhaBali just write apt-get install mozilla06:22
KhaBalwill apt-get install anything?06:22
goldfishyes06:23
goldfishthe mozilla broswer06:23
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goldfish*browser06:23
dr_williswell anything thtas in the repositories. :P06:23
prcWhy might I be having problems getting programs like SND to play sounds?06:23
KhaBalso whats the point of synaptic?06:23
goldfishKhaBal: it's a gui frontend to apt-get06:23
goldfishmore n00b friendly apparantly06:23
dr_williswhats the point to anything. :P06:23
KhaBalbut in order to install you have to add the url and deb blah blah06:23
goldfishwhat?06:24
KhaBalyou have to go resporities and add it in06:24
goldfishyou add the repositories once06:24
KhaBalthen look for it and install06:24
goldfishthats it06:24
KhaBalwhat if the program you want to apt-get isint there?06:24
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goldfishbuild it from source or wait until a package is made06:24
KhaBalhmm i see06:25
prcdoes anyone have any advice for playing sounds?06:25
korneliushi all06:25
virguleCarlFK: dependencies problems is all I see in there..06:25
KhaBalgoldfish: so to add one you have to deb <url> and src <url> I think i saw this yesterday06:25
korneliusany one running ubuntu on a sony t series laptop?06:25
CarlFKvirgule - should I bugzilla it?06:25
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goldfishprc: is there a setting somewhere to choose output device? might be something to do with that06:26
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goldfishKhaBal: yeah06:26
goldfish!repos06:26
ubotuI haven't a clue, goldfish06:26
goldfish!repositorie06:26
ubotugoldfish: I give up, what is it?06:26
goldfish!repositories06:26
ubotu[repositories]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:26
virguleCarlFX: search first.. I am sure they know its still misfunctionning ;)06:26
goldfishKhaBal: that link shows you06:26
KhaBalgoldfish: bash:~$ echo deb http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/ubuntu/debs ./ | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list06:27
KhaBaldoes that edit it?06:27
goldfishyes06:27
virgulei'd search around libc606:27
CarlFKvirgule - any idea what to search for?06:27
KhaBalhmm i see brb06:27
virgulelibc6_2.3.5-ubuntu706:27
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virgule*opps *libc6_2.3.5-1ubuntu706:27
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GTswaggerI'm trying to get skype working... when people talk to me there is zero lag, but when I talk to them there is a lag that gets progressively worse like clockwork.    Any ideas?   Setup:   kernel 2.6.11 ... kernel ALSA w/ OSS emulation ... Audigy MP3+ (emu10k1) ... wireless B (atmel_usb) to cable modem with 1.5 mbit d/l and 256 kbit u/l06:28
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pepsixwhere do they make ballons06:28
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goldfishSouth Korea.06:28
CarlFKGTswagger - use a standard VoIP phone, like sjPhone from sjlabs.com06:28
IceDC571what audio player does everyone use in here?06:29
goldfishbeep-media-player06:29
CarlFKaplay !06:29
goldfishcplay!06:29
tristanmikemusic player06:29
goldfishmp3blaster06:29
prcI'm trying to play .aiff files from SND, but nothing comes out06:29
GTswaggerCarlFM -- I doubt that will work for what I want... I want Skype b/c I'm doing a podcast and it's so EASY to record a skype conference into a podcast06:29
goldfishprc: you might need codecs for that....06:29
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KhaBalwheever i minimize something in gnome the program just dissapears instead of being placed in my task bar whats going on here?06:30
goldfishprc: or maybe snd doesnt support .aiff files.06:30
prcgoldfish: what is codecs?06:30
CarlFKGTswagger - have you looked at any others?  I found Skype hard to work with - they are doning something funky06:30
prcIt definately is supposed to support them06:31
goldfishhmmmm06:31
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GTswaggerCarlFK -- No, but I really don't want to if I don't have to since everybody involved is already setup on skype06:31
byenyup ive been having issues with skype too06:31
jinohi..how to configure a mail server..?06:32
CarlFKGTswagger - so popular is more important than quality ;)06:32
CarlFKGTswagger - but I understand that getting everyone else to install something new can be a pain06:33
GTswaggerCarlFK - It's almost certainly not Skype... why would you have ONE WAY Lag... it's related to my system06:33
IceDC571i wish skype was compiled with gtk06:34
CarlFKGTswagger - it isn't an open source app, so only the shaddow knows06:34
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GTswaggerA friend suggested it could be my digitizer ... but hell if I know how to find out06:34
Strifeso what's with all the backports stuff being down or really slow?06:34
jinoCarlFK, how to configure a mail server06:34
Octaneis it safe to use packages built for debian, not specifically for ubuntu06:34
GTswaggerCarlFK --More specifically, it's most certainly related to how my system is processing sound06:34
StrifeOctane: depends...06:35
StrifeOctane: if you mean from the debian archives... I wouldn't necessarily recommend it06:35
IceDC571Octane: as long as its not important packages06:35
CarlFKGTswagger - personaly, i doubt it.  I can't imagine anything other than skype buffering06:35
StrifeOctane: but if you mean you're downloading a .deb file from some software's web site, then probably it's ok06:35
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OctaneStrife, IceDC571: something like amarok for example06:35
Strifethat would be fine06:36
IceDC571Octane: amarok is okay, its a deb package at least.. you can remove it if it causes problems06:36
Octanerock on thanks06:36
goldfishyou can get it from ubuntu repos06:36
IceDC571just make sure you have the right dependencies06:36
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nilslSome time, I try to do certain things in the terminal, but I have to gain root acess it say. Oh well, I try login with root, but it say that I have to be on lowest level: sh, I go to sh, but the same message appaer.06:37
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IceDC571nilsl: thats a little confusing06:38
nilslIceDC571: What is confusing?06:38
IceDC571nilsl: by lowest level, do you mean runlevel?06:38
nilslI get acces denied when I try some things, like; /dev/kmem06:39
nilslEtc.06:39
IceDC571have you tried the sudo command?06:40
Strifeuh06:40
nilslSo then I try login as root, and just go to: sh06:40
nilslUh, sudo.06:40
Strifewhat the hell are you trying to do/06:40
Strife?06:40
IceDC571lol Strife06:40
nilslStrife: Uh, login with root.06:40
Strifeoh06:41
Strifewell06:41
Strifeyou need a root password first06:41
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IceDC571nilsl: by default root doesn't have a password set06:41
SpecialBuddyI have no sound with gaim06:41
nilslOh.06:41
evaderHi. I switched to Breezy to give it ago - I'm not prepared to deal with the breaks and nvidia problems I've had so can I just swithch my sources back to Hoary and downgrade?06:41
evaderWill it work OK?06:42
IceDC571sudo should work for most tasks.. but if you really want you can use super user06:42
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Strifeevader: if you reinstall... yes06:42
nilslSuper user == sudo, right?06:42
IceDC571not quite06:42
SpecialBuddydoes anyone have problems with gaim not having sound06:42
metzennilsl: sudo = "super user do"06:42
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nilslHm, I have to read some manual or something.06:42
nilsl:-)06:42
hyphenatedSpecialBuddy: of course, it happens all the time. it's usually because something's hijacked the sound device so that only one thing can use it06:42
evaderStrife: What do you mean? I have to reinstall from scratch? Can I just switch this current Breezy system to Hoary and let apt downgrade it?06:43
nilslmetzen: Right, I read some like that before.06:43
theNeonGodanyone here a physics major or highly knowlegable in the subject? i need some homework help :-/06:43
calcsudo can do tasks as any user you are authorized to do so06:43
calcnot just super user06:43
SpecialBuddysomething hijacked the sound device?06:43
calcprobably means switch user do06:44
oofnikdoes anyone know of a good video edit/capture program for linux/gtk?06:44
CarlFKoofnik - yeah.. I think it is called lives06:44
IceDC571nilsl: type sudo passwd root in the terminal to set the root password for su06:44
nilslOh, this seem to work. :-)06:44
calcthough whatever it means its probably the same as plain "su"06:44
hyphenatedSpecialBuddy: some program has taken exclusive access to sound output. that means other programs can't access it06:44
norrisanyone here running the amd64 ubunu?06:44
calcnorris: yes06:44
IceDC571wow that has to be the most asked question in this channel :)06:44
norrislol, really?06:44
evaderHi. Can someone please tell me if switching my apt sources to Hoary will downgrade safely from Breezy. I want to switch back.06:44
nilslIceDC571: Thx.06:45
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SpecialBuddyso how do I take care of that problem06:45
CarlFKoofnik - http://www.xs4all.nl/~salsaman/lives/06:45
wessuckHow do i install yahoo mess06:45
oofnikthanks CarlFK i'll take al ook06:45
SpecialBuddygo to yahoo's site06:46
wessuckand06:46
IceDC571wessuck: download the deb file06:46
evaderHi. Can someone please tell me if switching my sources to Hoary will downgrade safely from Breezy. I want to switch back.06:46
hyphenatedSpecialBuddy: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q2206:46
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goldfishevader: im not sure, but i dont think its as simple as that.06:46
SpecialBuddythanks06:46
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CarlFKevader - from what I hear, no.06:46
norrisii left debian for x86_64 fedora when i got my amd64, i have had 0 probelms getting the nvidia driver to work, and am able to run all my gfraphic accelerted games, doom3 unreal tournamanet, ut 2003, 2004, nwn , etc. Am I gonna have as much success with ubuntu amd64?06:46
evaderCarlFK: So it's a matter of a reinstall from scratch?06:47
evadergoldfish: ^06:47
CarlFKevader - based to just reinstall hoaray (yes, wack all your previous setup)06:47
CarlFKyup.06:47
goldfishevader: yep06:47
goldfishim not 100% sure though06:47
evaderAnyone know what happens if I switch the sources back to Hoary from Breezy06:48
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IceDC571norris: it depends, personally.. i think you should do a dual boot with ubuntu and fedora.. whichever works for you the best.. you keep06:48
goldfishthings will break i'd imagine06:48
evaderheh06:48
evaderi'll give it a go.06:48
goldfish:)06:49
lynxanyone here knows how can i play .avi files? what packages do i have to install?06:49
IceDC571i cant believe you're going to try downgrading.. why not start clean again?06:49
SpecialBuddyI just hate that I can't play games06:49
sproingieyou have to do some jiggery pokery with pinning for downgrade to work06:49
norrisare 32 bit games like doom3 with 64 bit nvidia drivers, and 64 bit ubuntu possible without a chroot IceDC571?06:49
IceDC571i believe if you downgrade, even if you are successful, you'll have a bunch of junk left over06:50
IceDC571norris: sorry im not that smart, im still somewhat new to linux06:50
goldfishlynx: w32codecs06:50
goldfishlynx: i think06:50
norrisare 32 bit games like doom3 with 64 bit nvidia drivers, and 64 bit ubuntu possible without a chroot calc?06:50
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lynxhm06:51
Specheya - greetings from the NECC conference, where we're pushing ubuntu in education (+ltsp)06:51
CarlFKSpec - neat06:51
Specyeah, fun stuff tomorrow :)06:51
sproingienorris: no, you pretty much need a chroot06:52
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sproingienorris: actualy, doom3 might work without it06:52
sproingienorris: UT has a native 64bit port.  anything you play with cedega is going to need a 32bit chroot of course06:53
norrisit's frustrastrating really, i have always used debian based distros, but fedora x86_64 just works, want to switch to ubuntu, but i the ease of game setup is keeping me from it. fedora doesn't suck enought lol06:53
SpecialBuddyso you are saying that fedora is good for games06:53
sproingieubuntu for x86_64 works pretty well too.  it's the 32 bit stuff that's kind of a pain06:53
norrisi don't use wine, all my games, like nwn, ut, ut2003, 2004, doom3 , armyops, rtcw, etc, are native linux ports06:54
sproingieblame apt.  it can't handle multiple architectures at once06:54
norrisfedora on x86_64 rocks for games06:54
norrisi can play them all06:54
SpecialBuddyeven old ones06:54
norrisi think it's more of a multiarch issue06:54
goldfishi'd rather use windows than fedora06:54
norrisi can still p;ay soldier of forturne and rune, on x86_64 fedora06:55
sproingiei'd rather use windows than use gnome's file selector, that's for sure06:55
Jimbobsproingie: Why?06:56
norrisuplink, and sid meirs alpha centauri and uplink, hereos of might and magic,and railroad tycoon still run too06:56
SpecialBuddymaybe I should dual partition with fedora because I can't get that damn wine program to work06:56
sproingieJimbob:  it drives me nuts.  the autocomplete behavior is by far the worst06:56
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Jimbobsproingie: Why is it the worst06:56
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norristhe thing that sucks most about fedora though is lack of being able to upgrade between verisions. clean install are neede to eliminate all problems. My web servers' upgrade from woody to sarge though, was the best though!06:58
sproingieJimbob: it autocompletes while i'm still typing.  so if i type "/usr", it ends up as "/usrsr"06:58
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Jimbobsproingie: What version of GTK+ are you using?06:59
tkieselHiya everyone.06:59
LexiCon[gsr-dj] hey...I've got a question :\...I set up ubuntu on a dual-boot with winxp pro, and everything went fine, but when I try to login at the ubuntu splash screen, all I get is a tan screen, a login sound clip, and my cursor...then my hd/cpu fans spin up, and nothing else happens06:59
LexiCon[gsr-dj] am I missing something?06:59
sproingieJimbob: beats me.  the one that installed with firefox, the only app where i'm unfortunate enough to suffer that behavior06:59
LexiCon[gsr-dj] :\06:59
SpecialBuddyhow can I clean install wine because I think there are some problems everytime I try installing it07:00
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yaaarerv identify maryjane07:00
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skel_1 quick question07:00
skel_limwire wont miziimize to tray07:00
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Emanhi all07:00
skel_it just closes i have the setting to go to tray but it does nto07:00
SpecialBuddyI tried so many times to dual boot xp and ubuntu and I couldn't get it to work07:01
goldfishhow come?~07:01
Jimbobsproingie: Try "dpkg -s libgtk2.0-0", and tell me what the version is07:01
goldfishit's pretty easy07:01
dbernar1YES! I have finally found the ultimate recursive solution for ruling the world!!!07:01
yaaarso, how can i tell real quick if i'm running both processors of this smp box?07:01
yaaar(i'm in a livecd)07:01
HrdwrBoByou aren't07:01
SpecialBuddyit's not that easy07:01
HrdwrBoByes it is07:02
dbernar1fairly.07:02
HrdwrBoBthe trick is to install windows first07:02
dbernar1SpecialBuddy: one hd?07:02
Emansorry, can anyone tell if there is a command  to erase 1 line of text?07:02
SpecialBuddynot when you have an IBM thinkpad that keeps installing some secret partition everytime you install xp07:02
HrdwrBoBEman: in what?07:02
dbernar1eman in what? dd in vi07:02
tkieselLexiCon[gsr-dj] : How long will it sit there doing nothing?07:02
Emani tried that on bash07:02
SpecialBuddyI do have one hd07:02
LexiCon[gsr-dj] until I do a hard reboot :\07:02
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dbernar1SpecialBuddy: did you install windows first?07:03
Emani didt grep $1 file.txt|dd but didnt worked07:03
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tkieselLexiCon[gsr-dj] : Like HrdwrBoB said, you want to install Windows first. It won't play nice with letting Linux boot too.07:03
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SpecialBuddyI have tried it both ways07:03
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goliathello there07:03
dr_willisseceret? you mean that 8mb partition windows likes to make?07:03
dbernar1Eman: dd in vi07:03
SpecialBuddywindows takes over07:03
LexiCon[gsr-dj] I had windows installed first07:03
dbernar1not in grep like that.07:03
tkieselLexiCon[gsr-dj] : Hrrrm. Where'd you get yoru install CD/DVD?07:03
jkfhello everybody07:03
Octanecan someone please let mek now how do i stop (or reroute) my firwall messages away from my system logs07:03
dbernar1$1 is a variable placeholder07:03
SpecialBuddyno07:03
SpecialBuddy3.2 gb partition07:03
SpecialBuddyeverytime07:03
Emandbernar1 but can i use that command en a bash program too?07:03
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Emano ic07:04
dr_willisHmm....07:04
dbernar1SpecialBuddy: you just install windows, then ubuntu, and it should work, works here.07:04
LexiCon[gsr-dj] I installed windows, shrank the partition, installed ubuntu on the open partition :X...I got the image from the clemson university linux site07:04
SpecialBuddyno07:04
sproingieJimbob: tells me that it's not installed.07:04
SpecialBuddydoesn't work07:04
dbernar1just install the grub to the mbr, tho07:04
SpecialBuddyno07:04
Octaneya07:04
dbernar1when it asks you whether to do it, say yes.07:04
Octaneinstall to mbr07:04
Octanetook me 5 tries to understand07:04
dbernar1the main boot record07:05
SpecialBuddymbr is taken over and everytime I try that it screws it up07:05
Jimbobsproingie: What version of ubuntu?07:05
sproingieJimbob: can't even find it with dpkg -l.  i doubt firefox is statically linked07:05
dbernar1Eman: what exactly are you trying to do?07:05
imaekDoes anyone know a terminal text editor that has syntax highlighting?07:05
goldfishinstall windows, leave empty space, let ubuntu partition empty space, and voila.07:05
tkieselLexiCon[gsr-dj] : Did you check the md5 sum to make sure that your download was error free?07:05
jkfhow to install the fcitx?07:05
SpecialBuddyno07:05
goldfishimaek: vim07:05
SpecialBuddydoesn't work that easy07:05
SpecialBuddyI'm telling you07:05
imaekok07:05
jkfI had install it, but can't use it07:05
goldfishSpecialBuddy: worked that way for me.07:05
LexiCon[gsr-dj] tkiesel: how do I do that?07:05
SpecialBuddyI'm sure it did but there is something about this laptop that screws it up07:06
goldfishoh right07:06
SpecialBuddyI install ubuntu and when it restarts it doesn't finish the install and goes to xp07:06
tkieselLexiCon[gsr-dj] : Also, check that the copy you burn is clean too. I had to go down to 2x on my burner to get real error-free burning in Windows XP.07:06
sproingieJimbob: hoary07:06
dbernar1imaek once in vi/vim the command to turn it on is :syn on07:06
Jimbobsproingie: Strange07:06
dbernar1SpecialBuddy: what laptop?07:07
tkieselLexiCon[gsr-dj] : Google for md5sum.  Good windows md5 program. :)07:07
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imaekThanks, dbernar1.07:07
SpecialBuddyIBM thinkpad07:07
jkfAny one help me07:07
sproingieJimbob: actually, it seems to have stopped doing that.  i know it used to07:07
SpecialBuddyit's weird07:07
SpecialBuddyit's a 20 gb hard drive07:07
SpecialBuddyif I install xp then it will say 16 gb harddrive07:07
tkieselLexiCon[gsr-dj] : Your download is likely good. But I'd maybe try doing a slow burn of the install disc. I had issues with install until I did a disc that I'd burned slower.07:07
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Emandbernar1 am trying to capture a variable, then find that text in a txt file, then erase that line of text07:07
Emanguess i should lear something like awk07:08
dbernar1a nice task07:08
dbernar1I am trying sdomething,07:08
sproingieJimbob: well, problem 1 of 2334525346 with that file selector solved07:08
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Jimbobsproingie: Ok, what are the other problems?07:08
dbernar1/dev/hda7             97429708  29114624  63365864  32% /mnt/l07:08
dbernar1/dev/hda9             97429708  29114624  63365864  32% /mnt/l07:08
dbernar1how is that even possible?07:09
sproingieJimbob: just lack of features, like detail and thumbnail view.  both of which i've had many occasions to use07:09
dbernar1both on same dir?07:09
CarlFKLexiCon[gsr-dj]  - get http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/07:09
CarlFKfor md5sum.exe07:09
CarlFKand a pile of other goodies07:09
jasmuzdoes anyone now how to eliminate a zombie process?...xmms went zombie on me and its hogging the audio07:09
JimbobWhat does "detail" offer above the existing view07:09
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SpecialBuddyI really wish it did work because I can't get wine to work either07:10
goldfishjasmuz: can't kill -9 it/07:10
goldfish?07:10
Jimbob(a thumbnail is likely do-able)07:10
jasmuzgoldfish: nope07:10
Emanjazmus if u know the name of the process i guess kill will dow it07:10
cyphaseRPM = Ridiculously Primitive Method/Management07:10
Emannot sute thought07:10
Amaranthcyphase: Do you understand all the internals of the rpm system?07:10
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Amaranthcyphase: And yum repositories?07:11
cyphaseAmaranth, no, and i wasn't being serious07:11
Emanlol07:11
sproingiei'm SO glad konversation keeps a persistent history, considering how often it crashes07:11
jasmuzGuys good night07:11
cyphasei just noticed it could syand for it, so..07:11
cyphaselol07:11
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Emanlater jasmuz07:11
lcarlosANYONE KNOW HOW TO CONFIGURE TE PORTD FOR AMULE???07:11
lcarlosANYONE KNOW HOW TO CONFIGURE TE PORTS FOR AMULE???07:11
goldfishno07:12
sproingiesomeone kick him?07:12
JimbobOBVIOUSLY NOT07:12
jkfMy notebook is compaq presario 2009AP, and I installed the ubuntu I can't going to the windows.  help07:12
Jimbob:-)07:12
imaeklcarlos you mean like, router stuff/07:12
Amaranthlcarlos: Please don't yell. If someone knows they will answer.07:12
imaekOr in aMule?07:12
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dbernar1lcarlos: try gtk-gnutella07:12
tkiesellcarlos: Maybe when my ears unclench.07:12
lcarlossorry07:12
sobersabreis it possible to create kernel package with make-kpkg which will be named "linux-image" instead of "kernel-image" ?07:12
dr_willislcarlos,  a check of the amule homepage may tell you wht ports you need forwareded.. but I dident have to mess with the ports on my system07:12
dbernar1Eman: ya, maybe some scri[pting thing...07:12
kwilcox_afkDuring the boot process, when it gets to Loading ACPI Modules... it goes to a blank screen and never does anything... any suggestions? Tried installing with noacpi, nolacpi, and apci=off07:13
tkiesellcarlos: ;) What is the port configuring you need to figure out? I don't use amule, but if it's a basic question, I'm your man.07:13
sproingieJimbob: i've used the detail view to sort by owner in a directory where people drop all kinds of stuff.  i probably don't use it that often.  thumbnail view i do all the time, since i'm always slinging pictures around07:13
sobersabre( some modules want kernel pack. to be called that way )07:13
Emanjejeje was thinking the same07:13
dbernar1Eman: I can prolly figure out how to erase the last line in a file, tho.07:13
dr_willistheres #aMule also :P07:13
Emanmmm any help is well recived xD07:13
lcarlosthe problem is that i have lowID and i wanna hava HiID07:13
tkiesellcarlos: If you're behind a router/firewall, you'll need to set it up to forward the appropriate ports to yoru computer. If you're not, then it shoudl work with no extra config from you.07:13
Jimbobsobersabre: make-kpkg --stem="linux" ...07:13
Emanmy friend say its really easy, but he wont tell me07:14
sproingieJimbob: with detail view in windows i can pick arbitrary metadata.  too bad it's just about impossible to make explorer remember which columns I want in explorer view07:14
Emanif i find out ill tell ya07:14
dbernar1eman, unix course?07:14
lcarlosbut i don't have a firewall07:14
Emanmmm linux =)07:14
dbernar1LInux course?07:14
kwilcox_afkAny suggestions would be great... During the boot process, when it gets to Loading ACPI Modules... it goes to a blank screen and never does anything... any suggestions? Tried installing with noacpi, nolacpi, and apci=off.07:15
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lcarlosand i have lowID and the downloads are too slow07:15
tkiesellcarlos, Then you shouldn't require any messing with ports for Amule to work.07:15
sproingiesomething where i can type "ls" and have it populate the terminal with clickable icons07:15
JimbobCLIM?07:15
Emanyes, am with a buch of friends trying to learn the miracle of linux, using ubuntu to practice07:15
lcarlosyes but i dont know haw to do that07:15
sproingieJimbob: common lisp interface manager07:16
tkiesellcarlos: A lot of p2p systems rank you based on how much sharing you do. The more files you share, the better your downloads.07:16
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lcarloswhats si gtk-gnutella???07:16
lcarlosmaybe let my try07:16
dbernar1sudo aptitude install gtk-gnutella07:16
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Emanlol mexican public tv sucks07:17
Emanjaja07:17
tkiesellcarlos: gnutella is another p2p app, I think.07:17
Emanmiss u fox ='(07:17
dbernar1ha07:17
dr_willistheres a ubuntu p2p wiki07:17
dbernar1thats prolly ythe worst channel invented(except for some local/..07:17
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Emanjajaja07:18
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Emanu cant live without fox its a tc virus07:18
Emanerrr tv+07:18
Emano well, thx for all the help, bed time, maybe my friend light my path,if so ill tell u how to resolve the probledbernar1m07:19
Emanwell night07:19
Emanlater07:19
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carywhois cary07:21
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oofnikhey everyone i'm trying to compile an application that needs libc6 2.3.2.ds1-21 but ubuntu only has 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu any suggestions?07:22
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oofnikseems a lot of packages depend on this new libc6..07:22
sproingieoofnik: are you running hoary or breezy?07:24
oofnikhoary07:24
oofnikall repo's are enabled07:24
sproingiewhat package is depending on it?07:24
Amaranthoofnik is getting something from sarge or marillat stable07:25
lcarloshay thanks the genutella works good07:25
dbernar1sure does07:25
oofniki haven't tried.. where can i find those repo's?07:25
oofniki read on the forums though that that's not such a good idea..07:25
dbernar1paste your sources.list somewhere07:26
Amaranthoofnik: I'm not telling you to, I'm saying that's what you're doing.07:26
oofnikoh.. haha nevermind then07:26
oofniki don't think i'm doing that though..07:26
AmaranthYou must be.07:26
oofniki'm trying to install libfaac007:26
AmaranthIt's either from sarge, marillat, or unstable07:26
oofnikand it wants 2.3.2.ds1-2107:26
Amaranthyeah, libfaac0 is marillat07:26
oofnikoh alright07:26
Amaranthyou can't build from source?07:27
dbernar1or paste your sources.07:27
Amaranthi mean from a source package07:27
oofniki guess i could find source, but i want it because a bajillion things depend on it07:27
oofnikultimately i'm trying to install gtranscode07:27
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Amaranthno, i mean compile from the marillat source package07:28
oofnikwhich wants libavcodeccvs, which wants libfaac0, which wants the new libc607:28
oofnikoh.. how can i do that?07:28
sobersabreJimbob, tell me so i shall: make-kpkg --stem=linux --revision=blabla kernel_image ?07:28
imaekIs there a command to save, but not exit, in VIM?07:28
Amaranthmaybe you shouldn't be doing this :P07:28
Amaranthimaek: :s07:28
Amarantherr, :w07:28
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imaekThank you, Amaranth.07:29
imaek:)07:29
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oofnikhaha, yeah i'm a newbie.. :-/07:29
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oofniki was looking at this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44615&highlight=libc6+2.3.2.ds1-21 and it scared me a little07:29
Jimbobsobersabre: Yeah07:29
Jimbobsobersabre: "revision" would be something like "1" or "2"07:29
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tkieselAnyone had good/bad/neutral experiences with apt-build?07:30
sobersabreJimbob, don't worry about it. i was worried about the name of the target.07:30
Jimbobmake-kpkg --targets lists the available targets07:30
oofnikAmaranth do you think i can force the package to get by with -20ubuntu13 version of libc6?07:30
sobersabreactually i got into make-kpkg script and started adding linux_image in misc places...07:31
Amaranthoofnik: no07:31
sobersabrebut you saved me from debugging.07:31
lcarloswell see you07:31
oofnikis there some new feature in the new release that is absolutely necessary or something?07:31
lcarlosthansk for the help07:31
lcarlosgenutella07:31
oofniksorry for being a bit lost when it comes to this stuff07:31
sobersabrewhy is this util not ported to ubuntu on ubuntu ?07:31
lcarlosworks good07:31
Amaranthoofnik: something built for a newer version of libc6 won't work on an older libc607:31
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Amaranthgenerally07:31
Amaranthoofnik: Because it's a patent minefield?07:31
lcarlostkiesel thanks07:31
blackfaithguys i need help with mplayer07:31
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tkiesellcarlos: No problem. :)07:32
oofnikhah07:32
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oofnikso should i try to just compile from source package?07:32
blackfaithi know that if i installed the real player plugins it can runs it, but its now right now and also its not running MP3 formats ?07:32
blackfaithany idea07:32
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maeHi, with anjuta I am getting "config.status: error: cannot find input file: test.in" when i try to do a make autogen... what package do i need to install? (I already installed all the reccomended and suggest packages)07:32
Amaranthoofnik: That will almost certainly work. sudo apt-get -b source libfaac007:32
plefnoanyone who can help a newbie with a ubuntu boot-up problem?07:32
oofnikokay i will try that, thank you07:33
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bimberiplefno: ask away - hopefully someone can help07:34
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plefnook, cool.  I just installed Ubuntu 5.04 from the installation cd and the installation seemed to work fine, but when i boot up and sign in, the system immediately freezes07:35
iphituswhere does ubuntu store the lists of drivers to load on boot? I have a driver for my wireless card that ubuntu selected, however ndiswrapper works substantially better. Where can I stop it loading the first wireless driver?07:35
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plefnothe desktop doesn't load or anything.  it just freezes up immediately after i enter my username and password07:36
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oofnikAmaranth - no good, i have some 25 unmet dependancies of header files... meh] 07:36
Amaranthoofnik: sudo apt-get build-dep libfaac007:36
oofnikthere are several applications i have tried to install which depend on the new libc6, maybe whoever is in charge of that package should look into updating?07:36
bimberiplefno: anything on the screen at all?07:37
Amaranthoofnik: It's not going to happen in hoary.07:37
plefnonope, it's just the default brownish background07:37
Amaranthoofnik: 1) hoary is stable and 2) libc6 changes shouldn't be done lightly07:37
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iphitushow can I stop ubuntu from loading acx100 ?07:37
bimberiplefno: does <ctrl><alt>F2  do anything?07:38
plefnoi tried kubuntu also, with a similar problem07:38
oofnikargh, there must be an easier way than to just build all these dependancies from source07:38
plefnonope, the system is totally frozen up07:38
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oofnikwould you happen to know if any difference from the hoary version of libc6 to this new one that everything wants?07:38
Choubakaiphitus: add it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist or something07:38
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plefnoany ideas?07:40
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oofnikAmaranth someone on the forums installed the breezy libc6 files on hoary, is this potential for disaster?07:40
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bimberilol07:41
oofnikhahah i take that as a hell yes07:41
oofnikwell shoot, i keep going deeper and deeper in the dependancy tree to no avail.. i dont want to give up gtranscode :(07:42
bimberiplefno, I think you should try booting into "recovery mode" and looking through the log files (in /var/log).  I'm trying to see which one(s) might have anthing interesting07:42
sobersabreplefno, tell me something: is this a full and new  install of ubuntu on your machine ?07:42
plefnoyeah, it's a brand new installation07:43
sobersabreplefno, and is it possible you changed your hostname lately ?07:43
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plefnoi'm not sure what you mean07:43
sobersabrehave you installed the system yourself ?07:44
plefnoyes, just a couple hours ago.  actually several times now07:44
sobersabrehm. is the network given to you via dhcp ?07:44
plefnothe system doesn't have any internet connection at the moment because it's connected via wireless07:44
sobersabrethis is not causual ...07:45
sobersabreanyway: press Alt+Ctl+F107:45
sobersabredoes it respond ?07:45
plefnono, it doesn't07:45
sobersabreyou should be in the console.07:45
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plefnoit's completely frozen up if i try to go into GNOME07:45
sobersabreand hm... Alt+Ctl+Backspace ?07:46
Amaranthplefno: You're not using the 2.6.11 kernel, are you?07:46
plefno2.6.1007:46
sobersabreso you see the GDM, and _after_ you login you get this right ?07:46
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plefnoyeah, right after i put in my username and password it looks like it starts to boot but then locks up07:46
sobersabreok.07:47
oofnikwill i get any performance improvement by installing the 686 kernel image instead of 386?07:47
Amaranththat sounds exactly like the inotify issue with 2.6.1107:47
Amaranthoofnik: Somewhat.07:47
sobersabrewhich video card do you use ?07:47
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oofnikany possible problems with doing so?07:47
sobersabreAmaranth, what are you talking about ?07:47
plefnoi have a geforce 6200 256mb07:47
sobersabreplefno, which driver do you use ?07:47
sobersabrenvidia's or xorg's ?07:48
plefnowhatever the installation chose07:48
sobersabreoih...i see.07:48
Amaranthsobersabre: Using the 2.6.11 in universe causes your system to hard lock on GNOME startup.07:48
sobersabreAmaranth, and the reason is.. ?07:48
sobersabreselinux settings? :)07:49
oofnikis rarewares.org down?07:49
bimberiplefno: does it only freeze after you put in your un/pw or if you leave it does it freeze anyway?07:49
Amaranthsobersabre: It isn't really 2.6.11, it's a snapshot of some time after 2.6.1007:49
sobersabreok07:49
plefnono, i don't think it will freeze if i just let it sit there07:49
sobersabreanyway, plefno you seem  to need to edit your xorg.conf file.07:49
sobersabreand you probably need to install nvidia drivers.07:49
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plefnowell i'm extremely new to linux so I don't know how to do that.  any howtos you can point me to to help out?07:50
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bimberiplefno: ok.  so it's unlikely to be something that starts up after gdm07:50
sobersabreyep. use the ubuntu nvidia guide.07:50
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sobersabrebimberi, it is very possible that gnome uses some nicey-nice feature like composite or whatever rendering. while gdm - doesn't , thus the lockup07:51
plefnook, i'll try that out07:51
sobersabreplefno, there's guide on how to setup your ubuntu to use nvidia drivers and what to edit.07:51
sobersabrein the ubuntu portal... sorry i don't wish to search for it.07:52
sobersabreyou need to be able to edit files via console.07:52
plefnoi'll find that under documentation on the ubuntu site?07:52
sobersabreyep.07:52
sobersabrebut.07:52
HrdwrBoBnvidia drivers are covered in the BinaryDriverHowto on the wiki07:52
sobersabreyou will probably need to reboot. after you see login screen - don't try to login via ir07:52
sobersabreit07:52
HrdwrBoBwiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowo07:53
HrdwrBoBwiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:53
sobersabreplefno, press "Alt+Ctl+F1" to get into console ( now it is locked,, so it won't help )07:53
plefnothanks hrdwr07:53
HrdwrBoBno worries07:53
plefnoshould i boot in recovery mode or to the failsafe console?07:53
HrdwrBoByou don't need to reboot07:53
HrdwrBoByou don't need to go to console07:53
HrdwrBoByou can install the drivers07:54
HrdwrBoBthen logout07:54
HrdwrBoBthen hit ctrl+alt+bksp07:54
plefnoi can't login at all07:54
plefnoit just freezes up07:54
sobersabreHrdwrBoB, without logging into the system it is difficult07:54
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HrdwrBoBah oh it freezes07:54
sobersabreplefno, you do need to reboot.07:54
sobersabre:)07:54
HrdwrBoBah the 6200 is not supported07:54
sobersabreand you do need to get into console07:54
HrdwrBoBI thought he just needed nvidia drivers07:54
ilba7ri want to add an application to the gnome menu i know there is a menu editor for gnome but i forgot its name any help is appreciated07:55
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sobersabrewow.07:55
bimberiilba7r: smeg07:55
plefnook, will do07:55
sobersabreplefno, wait!07:55
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ilba7rthank  bimberi07:55
sobersabreHrdwrBoB, are you sure about the card ?07:55
bimberiilba7r: yw :)07:55
levanderRecently I started having some minor wierd terminal emulation issues when I connect to my Ubuntu box via putty.  This has happened to anyone else?07:55
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HrdwrBoBsobersabre: the 6200 came out after the latest drivers, I'm fairly sure the binary drivers don't support it07:56
plefnoso will i need to try some other drivers?07:56
sobersabreplefno, no... if you have an unsupported card.... you have an unsupported card.07:57
sobersabre:|(07:57
HrdwrBoBthe nv drivers however may work07:57
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plefnowell i might as well try that07:57
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plefnoit figures that when i find a linux distro that sounds like i'd actually like it, that my video card isn't supported07:57
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levanderlol plefno07:58
bimberiplefno: It's probably still worth trying the Howto - things can only improve07:58
sobersabrelatest driver: Release Date: June 22, 200507:58
levanderwhat is a good video card to get that is comparable to the 6200 that is well supported by ubuntu?07:58
tristanmikeapparently the 7667 drivers might work07:58
sobersabreare you trying to tell me the card came out after that ?07:58
plefnoyeah i'm going to try it.  i'm finishing a fresh install of ubuntu at the moment07:59
sobersabreplefno, don't listen to pessimists :)07:59
unome6600 works fine here07:59
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sobersabreuse the latest nvidia drivers07:59
bimberiplefno: how many install so far? :)07:59
sobersabreplefno, reboot, don't waste time... after it is all setup you will enjoy07:59
plefnowell just counting ubuntu and kubuntu, probably about 4 today.  i kept switching back and forth even though neither worked07:59
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plefnoi really want to use KDE but once i get Ubuntu working it's easy enough to get KDE08:00
unomeKDE loves you, come to the light.08:00
bimberiplefno: yes a "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" will do that08:01
plefnowell I'm a lifetime Windows user and KDE seems like the best transition to linux for me08:01
unomeamen.08:01
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plefnook, installed.  rebooting and hoping for the best08:06
gobeavsI used to be pro KDE08:06
gobeavsnow Gnome > KDE08:06
IceDC571gobeavs :)08:06
Specme too08:06
plefnowell i'll probably try out both gnome and KDE, but at the moment i like KDE better08:06
gobeavshowdy ICE :P08:06
sobersabrehow do i use splashimages in menu.lst ?08:06
IceDC571gobeavs: what made you switch?08:07
sobersabrewhere do i write what ?08:07
gobeavsUbuntu :D08:07
gobeavsKubuntu wasnt fully developed08:07
gobeavsand just using Gnome, I have come to love it08:07
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IceDC571thats good to hear08:07
gobeavsalthough I havent really used KDE in a while.....it just seems like its way to cluttered08:07
gobeavswhich could probably be fixed, but I just like Gnome08:07
IceDC571i remember when gnome first had nautilus.. it was really slow, my only option was to use kde08:07
plefnoyes!!!  it worked.  woohoo!!08:08
plefnothanks a lot guys08:08
Tomcat_I don't want to go to kubuntu... Gnome is much better packaged imho.08:08
bimberiplefno: great!08:08
Tomcat_Not even xfce is packaged so well.08:08
hondjewow, gnuplot isn't gpl'd :(08:08
IceDC571is there a xubuntu? heh08:08
advantage1_i need help08:08
gobeavswhats everyones favorite light window manager?08:08
Tomcat_IceDC571: ubuntu has one of the best xfce bundles I heard.08:08
gobeavsadvantage: whats your problem?08:09
budluvagobeavs, i dont mind fluxbox08:09
advantage1_i need a girl friend08:09
Tomcat_But it's just like KDE... you have to do everything yourself. :o08:09
IceDC571advantage1_: me too08:09
gobeavsadvantage: tough08:09
gobeavs:-P08:09
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gobeavsbud: I think thats my fav also08:09
IceDC571who needs a girl when i have linux08:09
advantage1_how come linux nerds never get hot chicks08:09
hondjeI have a hot chick08:09
SpecialBuddyhaha08:09
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budluvai find my gf hot08:10
advantage1_i want a linux nerd girl friend08:10
advantage1_we can ssh .  and rub ports08:10
IceDC571apt-get free sex08:10
KhaBallol08:10
tristanmikelol08:10
IceDC571error:08:10
foxinesshaha08:10
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joyes08:11
advantage1_ok  ima  go sleep beside my commodore08:11
hondjeagreed08:11
advantage1_:P  night all08:11
johm yes i must go to stil awy 40 oures08:11
ratl3IceDC571, shit, have you filed a bugzilla report?08:11
budluvaanyone here ever had problems with sound and alsa in hoary?08:12
IceDC571i hope he falls asleep dreaming of a terminal with nothing but errors.. one of the most boring dreams you can have08:12
IceDC571i will file a bugzilla report08:12
IceDC571my apt-get moo still works08:12
tristanmikemine too08:12
ratl3what's moo? is that some mud client?08:13
IceDC571ratl3: go to the terminal type apt-get moo08:14
hondjegnome term is a good mud client ;)08:14
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ratl3oh, ha08:14
IceDC571apt-get for rpms.. ahahah08:14
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IceDC571pretty soon the gentoo crowd will follow and use apt-get to compile their apps08:16
IceDC571forget ebuilds08:16
ratl3i like ebuilds...08:16
IceDC571me too08:16
IceDC571too bad debian doesnt support it08:17
IceDC571can you alien an ebuild these days?08:17
ratl3it's alien just for binary packages?08:17
IceDC571sadly, i think so08:18
ratl3i meant to say isnt08:18
plefnook, new question.  i'm using a linksys wireless USB adaptor.  the device is listed correctly in the device manager, but it's shown as a network adaptor when i do "iwconfig"08:18
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hondjeYes, finally a 64 bit celeron :-D08:18
ratl3dvorak messes with your mind08:18
Burgundaviaebuilds are not actually packages, merely commands to compile a package and thus cannot be supported by alient08:18
IceDC571ratl3: i read it wrong.. i thought you said isnt too.. my stupid vision08:18
ratl3IceDC571: heh08:19
ratl3IceDC571: it's great mistyping whole words instead of just letters...08:19
Adrosswith the nautilus right click menu, the create documents sub menu, how do i go about installing templates?08:19
IceDC571dvorak.. i want to try it so badly!08:19
IceDC571but then whenever i go to my friends house they'll be like.. wtf.. you cant type08:20
ratl3IceDC571: common words just flow out so easily.... so if a word is similar to a common word sometimes i just type that word08:20
IceDC571try to explain you can only type in dvorak to your gf08:20
ratl3IceDC571: it takes a while to get used to the switch08:20
IceDC571ratl3: you're actually using it?08:20
ratl3IceDC571: i can only type dvorak on this keyboard, but on other keyboards i'm fine with qwerty08:21
ratl3IceDC571: by switch i mean alternating between dvorak and qwerty08:21
imaekHow do you go to a specific line in VIM?08:21
IceDC571ratl3: so its like once you learn dvorak you can pretty much type with both qwerty and dvorak fluently?08:21
ratl3IceDC571: it's only about 5 to 10% better08:21
IceDC571my fear is going out to the rest of the world and not remembering how to type qwerty08:22
ratl3IceDC571: on a switch, say i go to a friends house, it'll take me about 5 mins to warm up08:22
imaekNevermind.08:22
IceDC571i see08:22
ratl3IceDC571: then i'll be back to what i was originally08:22
Choubakahmm08:23
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IceDC571ratl3: do you have a dvorak permanent keyboard, modified keys, or stick-ons?08:23
ratl3IceDC571: it doesn't take much to learn either though... 10 or 20 times easier to learn than qwerty08:23
Choubakawhere do the scandinavian letters go in a dvorak layout? my keyboard has those letters.08:23
Choubaka and  and 08:23
HrdwrBoBIceDC571: model M, movable keycaps :D08:23
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ratl3i'm using stickers08:24
cafuegoChoubaka: Sorry, dvorak was designed for english.08:24
ratl3Choubaka: i wouldn't know08:24
Choubakahmm.08:24
ratl3cafuego: there's versions of it for other languages08:24
IceDC571i wish i could pick some up from a local linux shop.. but there isnt such thing08:24
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Choubakafinnish would probably require all the vowels readily accessible.08:25
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Choubakalots of vowels in Finnish words. :)08:25
ratl3IceDC571: i think it's best just to get a qwerty keyboard you like and some stickers08:25
cafuegoand a special 'coffee' and 'vodka' key08:25
ratl3haha08:25
Choubakahehe08:25
ChoubakaI want one of those USB coffee makers.08:25
Choubakathen I could bind "coffee" to a key08:25
cafuegoNo, you don't. They make shit coffee.08:26
mengwon't that take a while to make a cuppa?08:26
mengUSB is low powered, remember08:26
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IceDC571screw USB, tie it to one of the wires to your PSU08:26
ratl3haha08:26
ChoubakaWell, then I want a remotely controllable coffee maker that makes good coffee.08:26
mengwould like a mini fridge myself08:26
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ratl3or just use your computer to brew it...08:27
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ChoubakaThat would work.08:27
IceDC571i need someone to make a gui for pizza party08:27
ratl3?08:27
mengdoes Pizza Party only works in the US?08:27
ratl3is that a game?08:28
IceDC571http://www.beigerecords.com/cory/pizza_party/08:28
ratl3sweet!08:28
bimberiplefno: still here?08:28
ratl3i should make a cron job for this08:28
ratl3hah08:28
tristanmikethat's awesome08:29
cafuegoTry hacking the coffee daemon08:29
cafuegoOr was that tea daemon?08:29
dbernar1bah, what an idea/08:29
mengktea?08:29
cafuegono, not k08:29
mengKteatime08:30
cafuegoThere's been somehting since well before kde08:30
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mengbut no prefs for local varities though08:30
crappledevIceDC571: All of my prayers have been answered, pizza party :)08:30
cafuegohmm, no08:31
mengi don't even know if i can use pizza party with pizza hut an dominos in malaysia08:31
ratl3why would you want a gui for pizza party?08:31
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mengeasier for people to order pizza08:31
cafuegowtf would you order pizza fom dominos or pizza hut?08:31
cafuegothey are _so_ bad08:31
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ratl3wouldn't the places web sites work for that?08:31
IceDC571cafuego: what do they do to your pizza? lol08:31
heatxsinkanyone know how I can make gnome in ubuntu use the windows key L binding to lock the screen?08:31
crappledevwell considering that they have websites..08:31
cafuegoIceDC571: cardboard08:32
ratl3IceDC571: heart attack, stroke....08:32
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IceDC571lol08:32
cafuegoI mean come on, have some standards08:32
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dabaRsee08:33
IceDC571make a script that sends a random girl to my house from those dating sites08:33
heatxsinkno one?  Windows Key L?08:33
dabaRhaha, IceDC571 /08:33
dabaRcalled apt-get aids08:34
GTswaggerCarlFK -- are you still around?08:34
tristanmikewhy not just apt-get escorts?08:35
Burgundaviaheatxsink, unfortunately the windows key cannot current be used with any other key. It is quite an annoying bug08:35
crappledevBurgundavia , that doesn't sound like a bug, it sounds intentional08:36
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IceDC571in KDE it launches their start panel08:36
IceDC571in gnome the key does um... nothing08:36
AmaranthIceDC571: Ctrl-F108:36
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dabaRalt+f1?08:37
crappledevwell my crapple key works...with bindings08:37
Amaranthoh, alt08:37
Amaranthyeah08:37
DmapEditorHey I just installed the ubuntu on my machine and noticed that there was little programming stuff. Where could I get some good java/c++/perl stuff08:37
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dabaRhehe, jj.08:37
IceDC571i need a keyboard with a tux key08:38
dabaRsudo aptitude install build-essential to begin08:38
lifelessI need a tux with a keyboard08:38
dabaRAgreed.08:38
DmapEditora keyboard tuxedo hhahaha08:38
crappledevIceDC571, if the happy hacker keyboard wasn't $99 we'd all have one08:38
dabaRDmapEditor: also, well, what more specifically would you like?08:38
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dabaRsearch google for programming tools linux08:39
Burgundaviacrappledev, no it is a bug, because some distros patch it08:39
SpecialBuddyhow do I run kill it08:39
dabaRfind some program and aptitude install it08:39
DmapEditorahhaha, why don't you just spray paint your own keyboard black for like, $3.0008:39
IceDC571ooo.. someone likes using aptitude > apt-get08:39
dabaRevceryone should so I hear.08:40
DmapEditordabaR, search google? the number?08:40
DmapEditorwhat is google?08:40
bob2DmapEditor: installing build-essential gets you a basic C/C++ tool chain08:40
dabaRits too late, I have a midterm tomorrow. Im going to sleep08:40
bob2DmapEditor: if you want more than just that, you'll need to be more specific08:40
dabaRbye, bye08:40
dabaRI told him that too:)08:41
dabaRwell, in fact, ill leave this open...might as well08:41
DmapEditorcool bob2, thanks08:41
crappledevthe build-essential does not have support for -l objc08:41
bob2indeed, objective C is not C or C++08:42
crappledevbob2, where can i get it?08:42
bob2you want gobjc if you care about that08:42
IceDC571does anyone have an example of why aptitude handles dependencies better than apt-get?08:42
crappledevbob2, thanks08:43
dabaRhaha08:43
dabaReveryone missed it08:43
IceDC571or is it just a well known rumor?08:43
dabaRDmapEditor asked what is google.08:43
dabaRI just noticed... nice08:43
bob2I assumed it was a silly joke08:43
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IceDC571yeah same here08:43
dabaRok, I thought all missed it08:43
dabaRok, night again.08:44
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DmapEditordarn, ubuntu won't let me su -08:44
Myrttishalalala08:44
DmapEditorI'm just clark kent without my super user powers08:44
bob2DmapEditor: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo08:44
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bob2(it's in the FAQ, and the installer explained it)08:44
DmapEditorcool08:45
unomethe ultimate proof that aptitude is not better than apt-get is: aptitude moo08:45
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IceDC571hah.. i never noticed that, unome08:45
IceDC571what a lame response though08:46
unomehehe08:46
hondjehaha08:46
IceDC571i guess it shows they are tough by not including easter eggs08:46
bob2or that you haven't found the real aptitude easter egg08:46
hondjeSo easily discouraged!08:47
IceDC571i never really thought of easter eggs on linux08:47
crappledevbut.. "aptitude lets one uninstall unused packages without messing with dependencies..." which let me to this, apt-get remove aptitude08:48
Myrttitry aptitude -v moo08:48
Myrttior aptitude -v-v moo08:48
hondjelol08:48
IceDC571haha08:48
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IceDC571Myrtti: how did you find that out?08:48
fabbioneand keep adding -v is more fun08:48
hondjeProbably wasn't as easily discouraged08:49
Myrttigoogle: "aptitude moo"08:49
Myrtti;-)08:49
Myrttithough in warty it was more fun08:49
DmapEditorarg, I can't stand not being able to get to a root shell08:49
unomeapt-cache show cowsay08:50
hondjeyou win on the 5th one08:50
DmapEditorthat's what gentoo was all about08:50
hondjethe 6th one explains it, how cute08:50
bob2DmapEditor: a) you don't need one, b) you can have one. "sudo -s"08:51
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syndgah, i just installed a DVD drive and it was working fine until it froze up, i had to reboot and now its playing my DVDs at an accelerated rate08:54
syndhelp?08:54
amethystis kubuntu the live cd?08:54
unomeisn't there a root terminal in Gnome's menu?08:54
syndamethyst: no, kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE08:54
DmapEditorugh, emerge command not found08:54
DmapEditorlol08:55
Burgundaviaunome, applications-->system tools--> root terminal08:55
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amethystoh cool08:55
IceDC571i'll make my own pubuntu with porn08:55
unomeBurgundavia: thanks for confirming, I don't use Gnome08:56
amethysthaha.08:56
IceDC571is google running on unix.. or freebsd?08:58
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amethystfreebsd is a type of unix08:58
unomegoogle OS?08:58
IceDC571windows server 200308:58
IceDC571ack.08:58
mjrI hear google uses linux heavily, though I suppose they might use others as well08:58
syndGooOS08:59
syndthe idea behind it is really intuitive08:59
IceDC571i hate ASP, all the websites have errors and most of them are only viewed properly in ie08:59
bob2people can write buggy web applications in any language08:59
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amethystwhat about php?09:00
rzawhat do i gain with ubuntu compared to pure debian?09:00
IceDC571well php can be buggy sometimes but from all the websites i've visited its had more uptime than websites hosted on windows servers09:00
amethystrza: a support group like a saturn family? just kidding, I don't know, yet09:01
cavedive1rza: regular updates.09:01
IceDC571rza: you can loose a lot of headaches with ubuntu09:01
cavedive1rza: as in stable, supported releases.09:01
amethystubuntu very easy to install09:01
Burgundaviarza, ubuntu is more agressive with new package and is better integrated09:01
rza"and is better integrated"09:01
bob2hrm, not really more aggressive, in general09:01
rzameaning what?09:01
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LexiCon[gsr-dj] hey guys...09:02
Burgundaviaone good default set of programs, not many for the same task09:02
LexiCon[gsr-dj] how did plefno get past the drivers issue with the 6200 vid card? :\09:02
LexiCon[gsr-dj] I get the same lockup @ the login screen :(09:02
rzadoes ubuntu come with default set of applications?09:02
Seveasrza, 'better integrated' means that Ubuntu feels like a system instead of a collection of tools...09:02
Burgundaviabob2, modular X, x.org, gnome 2.10, etc09:02
Burgundaviarza, yes09:02
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rzacan i have minimal installation if i want?09:02
bob2Burgundavia: debian has newer libc, tomcat, etc09:02
bob2rza: sure09:02
Seveasrza, yes, there is a default desktop install and a default non-desktop install09:02
Burgundaviabob2, true09:02
Seveasthe non-desktop is the minimal install :)09:03
LexiCon[gsr-dj] how do I get past the 6200 vid card driver issue? :\09:03
rzaif ubuntu adoptes upstream packages faster, can i be sure that they are properly tested?09:03
rzado i get the same stability as with pure debian09:03
Seveasrza, yes, sometimes even better09:03
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bob2no, you can't be sure09:03
bob2they do get months of testing before ending up in a stable release, tho, so it's generally ok09:04
SeveasAck... if you try a development version you might have a more rough ride09:04
Burgundaviarza, ubuntu is one of the few distros to ship the developement versions of gnome09:04
SeveasUbuntu development versions are not like Debian testing :)09:04
IceDC571rza: with pure debian, you have to configure everything and start from scratch.. from my experience, ubuntu automates a lot of tasks and preconfigures a lot of things a new user would want to do09:04
amethystrza: are you part of the wutang crew?09:05
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AmaranthSeveas: They're like experimental. :)09:05
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cavedive1Yes, Breezy is a little rough at the moment :)09:06
Amaranthcavedive1: Understatement of the century.09:07
rzaIceDC571: i hate when operating system tries to think for me09:07
cavedive1They are in a major transition go GCC 4 and some other stuff.09:07
Burgundaviarza, there is a difference between thinking for you and being well integrated09:07
cavedive1I use it and don't have so much trouble.09:07
Amaranthcavedive1: debian sid is about to do that too09:07
cavedive1ok..09:07
rza"ubuntu automates a lot of tasks"09:07
rzasounds evil09:08
bob2note that it seems many of you don't seem to have used sarge, which is closer to ubuntu's style than woody was09:08
IceDC571not really09:08
rzathats like one step closer to devil (ms)09:08
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bob2rza: it's not, don't be silly.  you can undo anything it does.09:08
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rzamaybe ill stick with debian09:08
rzaanyway, thank you for comments09:08
cavedive1rza: well. Just use LFS then if you don't want anything predone.09:08
IceDC571i dont mean automate as in do stuff without your permission09:08
Amaranthbob2: What do you mean closer to ubuntu09:08
Amarantherr, ubuntu's style09:08
bob2Amaranth: e.g. users are in the audio group09:09
IceDC571i mean like preconfigured hardware stuff so everything works properly when you boot into ubuntu09:09
bob2that sort of thing09:09
Amaranthoh09:09
Amaranthyeah, that was a PITA in woody09:09
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bob2and they obviously have the same installer, etc09:09
Amaranthbob2: i think i actually annoyed you about a couple of those things in #debian a long time ago :)09:09
holycowhttp://rlocate.sourceforge.net/  <-- neato09:09
bob2er, similar installers based on the same code09:09
cavedive1I think a gui installer is planned for Breezy09:10
cavedive1Or the next one.09:10
Amaranthnope09:10
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IceDC571fedora's anaconda installer is a nightmare.. very evil09:10
cavedive1Can't remember09:10
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Amaranthwas planned for breezy, doesn't look like it's going to happen09:10
Amaranthsame as usplash09:10
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BurgundaviaAmaranth, it is going to happen09:10
BurgundaviaAmaranth, the live and install cds are going to be unified09:11
IceDC571Burgundavia: are you serious?09:11
Burgundaviausplash is another matter09:11
AmaranthBurgundavia: That's not what I'm talking about.09:11
LexiCon[gsr-dj] hello? :\09:11
Amaranthoh, you mean they're going to cheat on the install?09:11
BurgundaviaIceDC571, I haven't seen any code, but I understand that is what is happening09:11
BurgundaviaAmaranth, mepis does the same thing, I think09:11
IceDC571thats correct, mepis is a live cd and installer09:12
IceDC571but personally i like it the way it is09:12
BurgundaviaAmaranth, the debian installer is going to stay texted based09:12
IceDC571ubuntu that is09:12
Amaranthboot up to a full working ubuntu live cd X then run an installer app from there?09:12
Burgundavias/texted/text09:12
Burgundaviabasically09:12
IceDC571i know.. thats horrible, i dont want to boot up a desktop from a live cd and install from there09:12
Burgundaviaalso means that shipit will only need to ship one cd09:12
BurgundaviaIceDC571, there are many gains and few losses09:13
Amaranthhow will it all fit?09:13
Amaranthit barely all fits now09:13
Burgundaviano idea09:13
Burgundaviashoe horns?09:13
IceDC571mepis made it fit09:13
holycowBurgundavia, you keep strange hours09:13
holycow>_>09:13
Burgundaviaholycow, it is only midnight here09:13
ChoubakaMagick Ubuntu powers of DOOM.09:13
holycow*cough*09:13
holycow:)09:13
Amaranth2am here09:14
Amaranthhurray midwest09:14
Choubaka10 am here :P09:14
IceDC57112am here09:14
Amaranthdamn west coast people09:14
AmaranthChoubaka: AUS?09:14
IceDC571hah09:14
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Amaranth*boggle*09:15
Amaranth10 am?09:15
IceDC571seriously09:15
IceDC571that timing must be off a few hours09:15
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Amaranthoh09:15
AmaranthGMT+209:15
Amaranthi can believe it09:15
Seveasit's 8am UTC, so 9am western europe and 10am finland :)09:15
IceDC571oh wait i counted wrong09:15
IceDC571stupid me09:15
Amaranthyeah09:16
holycow12 am here too09:16
IceDC571i thought 10am was close to 12am09:16
Amaranthi can do super advanced crazy math but i can't do basic addition09:16
Amaranthyay!09:16
Seveas12am..? middle east..?09:16
ChoubakaHm.09:16
IceDC571Seveas: california09:16
holycowcanada, you goat09:16
holycow:)09:16
Seveashmm09:16
IceDC571yay canada!09:16
Choubakamaybe rlocate could use inotify or something.09:16
holycowyay indeed!09:16
Seveasah, midnight09:16
Amaranth12am comes before 10am :)09:17
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IceDC571holycow: where you at?09:17
Seveasi'd say that's 0am or 12pm09:17
holycowChoubaka, i was more thinking like really fast file searches09:17
holycowIceDC571, vancouver, you?09:17
Choubakaholycow: well, yeah.09:17
IceDC571i really want to go back up to vancouver09:17
IceDC571im in san francisco09:17
Choubakalocate rocks, but you have to keep it updated ;P09:17
holycowoy :)09:17
holycowsf sounds cool oo09:17
holycowtoo09:17
IceDC571yeah09:17
robitailleuntil you live there...then you want to move back to Canada :)09:18
robitaille(done it....)09:18
AmaranthChoubaka: ubuntu handily kills your system performance once a day by running updatedb for you09:18
Burgundaviaportland is quite nice09:18
Burgundaviathe city is almost canadian in feel09:18
IceDC571portland is lovely09:18
ChoubakaAmaranth: yeah.09:18
IceDC571i remember passing by there09:18
ChoubakaAmaranth: Breezy should incorporate ck patches and shedtool09:18
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ChoubakaAmaranth: so they could run the update in batch mode or something.09:19
Amaranthtalk to me about gnome, not cli junk :)09:19
ChoubakaAmaranth: really cool stuff.09:19
BurgundaviaChoubaka, a better place to ask about that kind of stuff might be #ubuntu-devel09:19
IceDC571what is the release date set for breezy?09:19
AmaranthIceDC571: 5.1009:19
holycowthe other thing that would be neato would be a caching too for nautilus, particularly for dirs like /usr/bin09:19
ChoubakaAmaranth: check out kernel.kolivas.org :)09:19
IceDC57110.5? lol09:19
BurgundaviaIceDC571, 5.10.13 to be precise09:19
Burgundaviashould the gnome release not slip09:20
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AmaranthIceDC571: 5.10 == October 200509:20
ChoubakaUbuntu 10.5 could rock. will it ever exist? :P09:20
holycowhttp://www.kaboodle.org/  <-- *hmmm*09:20
AmaranthChoubaka: Nope.09:20
holycowi thought kaboodle was a kde media app?09:20
Amaranth10.4 might09:20
Choubakaheh, yeah.09:20
Amaranthwell, 10.0409:20
holycowhouston, i think we have duplication09:20
NeloHello, question...speaker still working with Headphones plugged in!09:20
Choubaka10.4 has to be pretty good .P09:20
Neloany ideas how to fix that?09:20
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Burgundavia10x1009:21
IceDC571you will be arrested if you're using windows09:21
holycowoh nm, it turns out to be a windows app09:21
holycowmeh09:21
Choubaka:D09:21
IceDC571because by that time.. all copies will be illegal09:21
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SeveasNelo, the speaker muting and headphones muting are different controls on some (most?) laptops...09:21
SeveasNelo, open a terminal, maximize it, and start amixer09:22
Seveasalsamixer*09:22
Nelothanks09:22
Seveasyou'll see the different controls, it's really nice :)09:22
Nelocool09:22
SeveasIk even got my led-in-the-mute-button to work :)09:22
KhaBalhow do i use synaptic so it can detect this https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto09:23
SeveasIt*09:23
Seveasdamn, /me needs coffee09:23
KhaBalwoops wrong URL09:23
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NeloSeveas thanks09:23
robitailleBurgundavia: have you seen http://live.gnome.org/10x10   recently?  They started adding more stats to it09:23
KhaBalhow do i add this site to synaptic http://dockapps.org/file.php/id/2909:23
KhaBaldeb http://dockapps.org/file.php/id/29 ??09:23
KhaBalor just deb http://dockapps.org/09:24
ChoubakaKhaBal: no.09:24
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ChoubakaKhaBal: it needs to be a specific debian repository.09:24
KhaBalhow do you know that/09:25
Burgundaviarobitaille, nice09:25
ChoubakaKhaBal: I just do.09:25
IceDC571isnt it common sense?09:25
ChoubakaKhaBal: those are source packages, not debian packages.09:25
Choubakayou can't add them to synaptic :/09:25
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Jesse1Hey09:27
IceDC571moo09:28
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Jesse1woo moo09:28
BurgundaviaKhaBal, debian repos have a certain look to them. Once you see it, you will recognize it. Take a look at archive.ubuntu.com09:28
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Jesse1lalalalalaoooo09:29
IceDC571its like http://firstpart.domain.com/ somename/09:29
IceDC571i believe09:29
IceDC571all repos look like that.. i forgot the deb at the beginning09:29
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Jesse1what about the deb-scr at the frount09:30
Jesse1front*09:31
IceDC571those are src files09:31
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Jesse1and they do?09:31
IceDC571they are source files incase you want to build from the source09:31
Burgundaviayou can do apt-get source and get the source for particular package09:31
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Jesse1i see09:31
Burgundaviaif you need to modify the package09:31
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Jesse1well i probably wont be needing to use them09:33
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cyphasehey everyone09:34
IceDC571i'm dead.. dont talk to me09:34
IceDC571i need some animal crackers09:34
HrdwrBoBanimal crackers?09:34
HrdwrBoBbiscuits made from animals?09:34
oggeeeww09:34
IceDC571exactly.09:34
Jesse1hey ive got another question it's not really ubuntu releated but if i buy a ata harddrive now becuase im running out of space, and later on i deciede to upgrade mobo's to one with sata would my hd still work?09:35
Poromiesdog-biscuits <309:35
KhaBalhey09:35
HrdwrBoBJesse1: yes09:35
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Jesse1ok09:35
KhaBalif you cant have gtkrellm on synaptic well look http://errr-online.com/pics/shot-2005-06-28-023223-1400-1050.jpg09:35
KhaBalyes you can09:35
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IceDC571Jesse1: yes.09:35
oggedoes ubuntu hoary (minimal install) include any webserver?09:36
dougsk_Jesse1, most sata capable mobo's have an ide controller on board, and if not a pci-ide card is cheap09:36
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Jesse1ok thx09:36
rasputnikJesse1 : there are ata-sata converters around for cheap too09:37
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gobeavsanyone run windows games on wine with success?09:37
HrdwrBoBI use cedega09:37
Jesse1yea but i dont really want to have to urchase of the internet09:37
dougsk_gobeavs, sol.exe an mshearts work great!09:37
parabolizegobeavs: yes. se409:37
gobeavs:-P09:37
gobeavsSe4?09:37
Jesse1HrdwrBoB, where you get cedega from or you pay for it?09:37
dougsk_heh heh09:37
parabolizespace empires 409:37
HrdwrBoBJesse1: I paid for it09:38
gobeavsah09:38
Jesse1HrdwrBoB, it cost $15 right09:38
oggewhich is the latest version of gaim? i got 1.3.109:38
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HrdwrBoBcorrect09:38
HrdwrBoB$15USD09:38
Jesse1ogge there is a new version but its on in the repositories09:38
oggeOk09:38
Jesse1yea so it will cost me about 24 aud09:38
kutucapehi all09:39
rasputnikany way of telling what fixes are in a particular package. just booted ubuntu and running firefox 1.0.2 is making me twitchy09:39
HrdwrBoByeah I'm in AU too09:39
HrdwrBoBrasputnik: dpkg -L packagename09:39
Jesse1yea go au!09:39
rasputnikHrdwrBoB : ta09:39
parabolizegobeavs: wine runs just about anything from blizzard.09:39
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Jesse1parabolize, what about WoW?09:40
HrdwrBoBI used to play WoW in cedega but I stopped subscribing09:40
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WldRbitI play WoW atm.09:40
gobeavsparabolize: cool, thanks09:40
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parabolizedon't know about WoW09:40
Jesse1yea HrdwrBoB thats the only reason why i havent got that game stupid subscriptions and no au servers09:40
WldRbitYou can even play it windowed mode but then the mouse disappears ingame.09:41
rasputnikHrdwrBoB : actually that seems to just list the files - is there a way of seeing what advisories have been patched?09:41
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parabolizeJesse1: you can install by cvs.09:41
oggeim a little bit worried what ive got in my sources.list.09:41
oggewhich respositorys is official , and needed.09:41
HrdwrBoBrasputnik: not per se09:41
rasputnikbugger. I'll rtfm them09:41
HrdwrBoBrasputnik: however if you use apt-get to update your packages09:41
Jesse1parabolize, yea09:42
rasputniks/m/n/09:42
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HrdwrBoBit will grab the altest patched versions09:42
oggewhere is that paste text thing09:42
oggeurl09:42
oggeops, sorry. topic.09:42
rasputnikHrdwrBoB : yeah, just ran synaptic and picked everything up, but i know things can lag a little and wanted some way of knowing when a package has a hole - bit like portaudit in freebsd if you know it09:43
nikkiawow, spammers must be desperate09:43
oggehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/277 - this is my sources.list , does it seem ok? Do I got official respositories?09:43
HrdwrBoBrasputnik: there is an automatic process that will pop up an icon in your bar when ther eare packages to update09:44
dougsk_rasputnik, I think your looking for apt-listchanges or zcat /usr/share/doc/$PACKAGENAME/Changelog.debian.gz | most09:44
Jesse1whats a good theme for gnome?09:44
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WMCoolmonhey, is this an average result for a fairly fast (say 5x or more DVD) CD/DVD drive?: Timing buffered disk reads:    8 MB in  3.42 seconds =   2.34 MB/sec09:45
rasputnikdougsk_ : that'll do thanks, as long as I can cron it in and get a mail I'm a happy bunny09:45
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IceDC571any girls in here?09:46
nikkiaWMCoolmon: a little on the low side, i think09:46
IceDC571did they all leave?09:46
nikkiaWMCoolmon: i'm pretty sure i write at 10MB/s when i'm writing at 8x, so 2.34MB/s would be somewhere close to 2x09:46
WMCoolmonnikkia: that's the read speed09:47
nikkiaWM, yeah, i know, but the base units are the same, i believe09:47
dougsk_rasputnik, I think it's what your looking for, anyhow, and by the way the patch from 1.0.4 was ported back to this hoary version of firefox preventing maliciousness09:47
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siimohi anyone know how to get asian fonts for ubuntu 4.10 ? i see these square boxes with numbers in them in gaim for my asian friends09:48
rasputnikdougsk_ : yeah, I googled before coming in here. I'd just like to not have to everytime a ff bug comes out (i.e. every other week :) )09:48
Jesse1!uptime09:48
WMCoolmoni'm trying to figure out why totem freezes when i try to play a dvd, and copies from the disk seem so slow09:48
nikkiaWMCoolmon: apparently, that is pretty much 2X09:48
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rasputnikthis is my first linux for about 4 years, nice to see how it's progressed09:48
nikkiaWM, '2x  22.16 Mbps (2.64 MB/s)'09:49
Jesse1[Best WinXP Uptime] : 1wk 5days 20hrs 55mins 2secs                  oh i could never get that much uptime on my windows box09:49
nikkiawm, check DMA is enabled on the drive09:49
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nikkiawm, my dvd defaulted to PIO mode under kubuntu09:49
WMCoolmonnikkia: yeah, i just did that09:49
dougsk_rasputnik, I haven't directly used a bsd in about two years so ;~P09:49
WMCoolmontotem's still freezing09:50
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siimototem is buggy09:50
Jesse1siimo not really09:50
WMCoolmonwell, iirc, menus don't work on VLC09:50
nikkiawm, they work in xine :)09:50
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rasputnikdougsk_: they changed a lot since then :) net and free anyway, I don't bother with others09:51
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Jesse1!thetime09:52
ubotuJesse1: I haven't a clue09:52
Jesse1ubotu, ??09:52
ubotuJesse1: I don't know, could you explain it?09:52
rasputnikright time for work, cheers for the handholding09:52
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Jesse1ubotu, explain what?09:52
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WMCoolmonnikkia: ty, xine-ui seems to be working fine09:53
syndJesse1: PM ubotu09:53
syndJesse1: dont do it here09:54
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WMCoolmon2 more questions tonight...09:54
WMCoolmon1) should i care if an application will remove "ubuntu-desktop"?09:54
Jesse1synd, ??09:54
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oggehow to delete a file in terminal?09:55
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bob2WMCoolmon: yes, it will make upgrading to breezy when it's released harder09:55
bob2ogge: rm09:55
oggethx09:55
WMCoolmonogge: rm for files, rm -r for directories09:55
WMCoolmonbob2: so keep evolution et al even though i may be using thunderbird instead?09:56
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bob2I would09:56
siimoubuntu rocks for including PornView!!! Description: Image and movie viewer/manager PornView is an image and movie viewer/manager with thumbnail previews.  Additional features includes thumbnail caching, directory tree views, adjustable zoom, and fullscreen view. Slideshows allow for unattended presentation of images for hands-free viewing. Pornview is written using GTK+.09:56
siimoLOL09:56
WMCoolmonalright, thanks :)09:56
bob2unless you're really strapped for disk space09:56
asad2005I have a problem removing gnome-gv, E: gnome-gv:  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 12709:56
IceDC571evolution is much better imo09:56
WMCoolmonbob2: no, i've got ~19 GB to work with09:57
bob2asad2005: that's not the error, look further up09:57
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IceDC571thunderbird is a huge memory hog, it has part of firefox in it09:57
bob2mutt 4 life.09:57
WMCoolmonbob2: and if i run out of space there, 30 GB09:57
Jesse1what a great name for a program09:57
asad2005Cannot install anything else while this error is on09:57
WMCoolmon2) is there a good way to upgrade to alsa 1.0.9? i've tried source packages, but the kernel sources are missing one "include/version.h"09:57
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oggewhat web browser do you prefer if not firefox ?09:57
siimoJesse1, well its specially designed for porn viewing "hands-free"09:57
siimolol09:57
bob2asad2005: scroll up and paste the entire error to #flood09:58
Jesse1i see lol09:58
cafuego3) Do you have a good reason for wanting alsa 1.0.9?09:58
IceDC571why is everyone upgrading alsa?09:58
WMCoolmoncafuego: yes. i have an audigy 2 nx, and support is supposedly much better in 1.0.909:58
cafuegoIceDC571: It's newer gotta be better lolol09:58
asad2005scroolkeeperupdate error while loading shared libraries: libxsl.so.109:58
Jesse1lol09:58
bob2WMCoolmon: you don't build modules against the kernel source, you build them against the kernel headers09:59
WMCoolmonahh...09:59
bob2WMCoolmon: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)09:59
cafuegoWMCoolmon: There are alsa 1.0.9 packages in breezy; down,oad those manually and install them using dpkg.09:59
cafuego!info alsa-utils breezy09:59
cafuego(just checking)09:59
ubotualsa-utils: (ALSA utilities), section sound, is important. Version: 1.0.9a-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 995 kB, Installed size: 1748 kB09:59
asad2005bob2, scrollkeeper-update: error while loading shared libraries: libxslt.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:00
cafuegoYes, there you go,. No need for inelegant, unpackaged, stupid idea tarball installs.10:00
bob2asad2005: something has trashed your disk10:00
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asad2005bob2 how to recover10:00
bob2are the alsa problems people have really caused by the userland tools, tho, and not the drivers themselves?10:00
Jesse1any1 know where i can get the windows media 10 codecs?10:01
WMCoolmoncafuego: sorry, where are breezy files?10:01
cafuegoWMCoolmon: In pool/ with everything else.10:01
bob2asad2005: sudo apt-get --reinstall install libxslt1.110:01
oggehow can I get a list (probalby in terminal) of what applications, window manager, and system (software) I got installed on my ubuntu hoary partition.10:01
bob2WMCoolmon: searching  for the package on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ will give you a download link10:01
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bob2ogge: dpkg -l | grep \^ii10:01
bob2ogge: that will list all fully installed packages10:01
cafuegobob2: Supposedly the userland tools fix some incompatibilies, yes. With 2.6.12 and 1.0.8 on the mac mini i couldn't adjust the volume. With 2.6.12 and 1.0.9a I could.10:02
oggethats crasy :)10:02
oggethans10:02
oggex10:02
IceDC571i cant wait for gnome 310:02
cafuegoIceDC571: It's newer gotta be better lolol10:02
IceDC571cafuego: exactly.10:02
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IceDC571if she's a new gf shes gotta be better10:03
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oggeHow can you define a library?10:03
asad2005bob2, apt-get gives gnome-gv removal apriority and stops with same error10:03
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Jesse1whats a good theme for gnome?10:03
IceDC571Jesse1: www.gnomelook.org10:04
hardcampa-Jesse1 that's a bit objective10:04
IceDC571i would search in the highest rated category10:04
hardcampa-http://art.gnome.org10:04
oggefor example; Mesa 3D graphics library [X.Org] 10:04
IceDC571yeah thats a good site too10:04
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WMCoolmoncafuego: will upgrading libc from 2.3.2 to 2.3.4 mess up my system?10:08
WMCoolmoncafuego: apparently libasound and other alsa packages from breezy depend on that10:09
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viorkBluetooth nokia 6230  Blaez gnome Bluetooth  web?????????????? help help10:10
viorkBluetooth nokia 6230  Blaez gnome Bluetooth  web?????????????? help help10:10
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asad2005bob2, Do I have to reinstall just because of a broken package10:12
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xliuhi, what is the difference between "the group which the file belongs to" and the "file owner"? thanks10:13
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skallercan someone confirm these keys please? pub  1024D/437D05B5 2004-09-12 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>10:15
skallersub  2048g/79164387 2004-09-1210:15
skalleri'm getting authentication failure on every package download10:16
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oggewill ubuntu hoary automaticly detect WLAN on a ibm thinkpad?10:19
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lampshadesilly question, if I take some of the commands from the little black boxes on the ubuntu guide, throw them in a file with #!/bin/bash at the top, will bash do all of the commands in the proper order nice and neat?10:20
amirsewhat can i use as a graphical front-end to scp between machines?10:20
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thenukelampshade: I would think so yes.10:22
thenukelampshade: why dont you just try :)10:22
resiakamirse: Nautilus? Konqueror?10:22
thenukelampshade: chmod o+x gives owner permission to execute that10:22
monchichiamirse: gftp has great ssh support too10:23
amirsethanks10:23
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lampshadethenuke, I was just afraid that like, I don't know, bash would start the next command before the previous command was done and that would screw things up10:25
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monchichilampshade: a line break in bash is equivalent to ;10:27
monchichiit will wait until the prior line is finished :)10:27
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oggemy ubuntu hoary with xfce4 feels a little bit sloggish, is there anything I can do about it? dma is ON.10:28
monchichiogge: what kernel are you using?10:29
oggewhat linux kernel version?10:29
monchichiyeah10:29
oggeI dont know really, is there anyway I can check it10:29
monchichiyeah10:29
monchichiuname -a10:29
oggeLinux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Jun 7 08:26:42 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux10:30
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oggemy processor is a celeron (coppermine) 700mz. 128mbyte ram.10:30
oggelaptop.10:30
monchichiah. you were asking about this last night, no?10:32
oggeyep.10:32
monchichiwhat exactly is sluggish?10:32
oggenow I know dma is on :)10:32
oggewhen minimize windows, resizeing windows.10:32
oggewhen surfing firefox.10:32
KhaBalanyone know how to install nvidia 32 bit onto ubuntu?10:32
KhaBalhttp://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7667.html is this the right site?10:33
monchichikhabal: yea, but its best to install the ubuntu debs10:33
monchichiwhich arent 7667 yet unfortunetly10:33
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oggemaybe its just me, being a little bit fastidious.10:33
monchichiogge, run gnome-system-monitor in a terminal and see whats eating up memory and/or cpu10:33
KhaBalmochichi: how do i do it ?10:34
oggemonchichi, I dont run gnome.10:34
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monchichiyou can still run system monitor10:34
WMCoolmoni tried installing the alsa packages from breezy, but alsa still registers as 1.0.6 in /proc/asound/version10:34
oggebash: gnome-system-monitor: command not found10:34
WMCoolmonthe mixer is version 9 tho10:34
KhaBalmonchichi: is it possible to install nvidia 32 driver by apt-get ??10:34
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KhaBalor do i have to do it step by step like on this site http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7667.html10:35
monchichiemcoolmon, thats the kernel module thats 1.0.610:35
monchichikhabal: you can do it with apt-get or synaptic10:35
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KhaBalmonchichi: hmm10:35
monchichiyou just have to add universe or multiverse10:35
monchichiand install linux-restricted-packages10:36
monchichido a sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx and see what happens10:36
oggemonchichi > bash: gnome-system-monitor: command not found10:36
monchichiogge.. apt-get install gnome-system-monitor10:36
KhaBalrespositiries?10:37
monchichiogge, or apt-get install top10:37
KhaBaldo i add it in through there?10:37
ubuntu_how do i get both my monitors working?10:37
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monchichikhabal: huh?10:37
KhaBalmonchichi: you said by synaptic10:37
monchichiogge, or apt-get install top10:37
SOLosHi, I have just filled free ship form. I'm interested how long will it last until I got CD's ?10:37
KhaBalwill it be in there already, or do you do it by going to respositiries10:37
monchichitop is a text based process monitor10:38
WMCoolmonhow would i go about getting the 1.0.9 kernel module?10:38
WMCoolmonwill i need to grab the alsa-source package as well?10:38
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KhaBalmonchichi: yes its allready there10:38
monchichiwmcoolmon: i wouldnt recommend it10:38
monchichikhabal: then install it ;)10:39
KhaBaldo i download nvidia glx and nvidia dev?10:39
KhaBalall of whats there?10:39
monchichidownload nvidia everything, and it will also install some kernel stuff10:39
WMCoolmonmonchichi: is there any other way to install alsa 1.0.9, then? if it's an issue of breezy being different from hoary, i've ended up installing a number of breezy packages to get the other stuff working10:39
monchichiwmcoolmon: i dont really know..? you could try compiling the modules from source, or you could upgrade your kernel to 2.6.12 or something10:40
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oggemonchichi, thank you. is there any way I can copy all text in top?10:41
KhaBalmonchichi: im sure you have to download all of them. nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-dev nvidia-kernel-source nvidia settings10:42
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monchichikhabal, yeah, not all necessary but very useful10:42
KhaBalok10:42
MorphDKhey.. shouldn't totem use the same codecs as xine?10:42
monchichinvidia-settings is useful little program10:42
monchichitheres two different totem backends10:43
monchichitotem-gstreamer and totem-xine10:43
MorphDKI can play everything in Xine-UI but nothing in totem.. :(10:43
oggeI did it.10:43
oggecheck out my "top" - anything looking suspicious?10:43
oggehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/27810:43
monchichitotem-gstreamer is installed by default10:43
MorphDKmonchichi, so what I'm looking for is totem-xine?10:43
WMCoolmonmonchichi: might as well, i suppose :p10:43
monchichisudo apt-get install totem-xine10:43
MorphDKmonchichi, i figured that out ;)10:43
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MorphDKmonchichi, ah.. then it removes the gstreamer backend.. nice10:44
monchichi;)10:44
MorphDKmjr, can you play avi, wmv, mov etc?10:44
monchichiogge, hold on a sec10:44
oggemonchichi, yep.10:44
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MorphDKmonchichi, nice, that did the trick.. thank you10:45
monchichiogge, when in top, hit F then n then return10:45
monchichinp10:45
ubuntuxHi everbody...10:46
KhaBalmonchichi: while its installing dont you meant to turn off everything your running?10:46
monchichiit will sort the processes by memory use10:46
KhaBalsynaptic makes life so easier :)10:46
monchichikhabal... no.. this isnt microsoft here10:46
monchichijust let it do its thing then reboot10:47
KhaBalok :)10:47
ubuntuxI already install ubuntu in my computer. but i don't know how to change root password? any body can help me?10:47
KhaBali forgot how to10:47
monchichiubuntux: sudo passwd10:47
KhaBali used to know10:47
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KhaBalmonchichi: how many years have you been with linux?10:47
Choubakareboot?10:47
Choubakais KhaBal installing a kernel?10:47
monchichiabout 910:48
KhaBalno my driver10:48
Choubakawhat driver?10:48
KhaBalnvidia10:48
monchichi9 years that is10:48
ubuntuxi have install webmin by apt-get install webmin and it be done.10:48
ChoubakaIt does not require a reboot :/10:48
monchichiok, restart your x server then10:48
monchichi;P10:48
KhaBalmonchichi: do you use debian as well?10:48
KhaBalmonchichi: what other distributions do you use?10:48
Choubakawell, reboot is simplest, but not necessary.10:48
ubuntuxhow to use webmin if i don't know root password?10:48
monchichinaw.. ubuntu is actually my first debian experience.. i used slackware and suse back in the day10:49
black-whispubuntux:  to make a root password type sudo passwd10:49
KhaBalslackwares hard suse is just too easy10:49
monchichiubuntux: set your root password by running "sudo passwd" in a terminal10:49
KhaBallol10:49
ubuntuxOk monchichi I'll try...10:49
KhaBalim a newb but not a complete newb, i know what im doing10:49
monchichisuse used to be hard too... EVERYTHING used to be hard..10:49
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KhaBalnow its easy10:50
KhaBaljust use that yast2 thing10:50
nikkiamonchichi: you're lucky10:50
monchichiyea10:50
monchichiwhys that nikkia?10:50
nikkiamonchichi: you missed the days where if you wanted X you compiled it yourself :P10:50
KhaBalits just like windows10:50
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Deanodriverhi10:50
KhaBalfedora is pretty much windows10:50
KhaBalgentoo is the best distribution10:50
KhaBaland the hardest,10:51
monchichilol, its true nikkia, but it was still a bitch to get video cards to play nice10:51
KhaBali tried it you have to download all the parts and all the programs you want before installing10:51
nikkiamonchichi: yeah, unless you planned ahead and bought a card that was known to work10:51
ubuntuxOk thanks monchichi. It is first time i use debian like.10:51
ubuntuxso i no familiar with debian command.10:51
KhaBalhows debian? same thing has ubuntu?10:51
MorphDKI'm still looking for NetworkManager for Ubuntu.. Anybody got it working?10:51
KhaBalshould i try debian?10:51
monchichiplanned ahead? what does that mean10:51
Deanodriverdoes anyone know how to set a filesystem to automount in /etc/fstab, and have read+write access by a certain user?10:51
nikkiamonchichi: back then, there was none of this 'oh no, gotta have amazing 3d performance' so you just bought whichever 512k or 1MB card worked best with what you wanted to do :)10:51
monchichiwhy, when i was a kid...10:52
nikkiathe only video card i remember having problems with X with, was, a Diamond Speedstar 24, whcih was a (at the time) brand new version of the ET4000 chipset10:52
KhaBalBTW how old are you guys?10:52
Deanodriverif it's a fat32 partition on the drive?10:52
monchichimy 486 50mhz was the shit10:52
KhaBallol10:52
KhaBal50 mhz10:52
monchichi23 years10:53
nikkiakhabal, don't knock it10:53
Deanodriver(i'd format it to ext3, but I sometimes remove the hdd and put it in windows PC's10:53
Deanodriver2010:53
nikkiathe 486-50 was usually faster than the 486-66 if you got the right 486-5010:53
Deanodriver:p10:53
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KhaBalmonchichi: what year old did you start linux?10:53
black-whispDeanodriver: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountfat10:53
ogge19 years10:53
monchichii dont know what year... about the same time windows 95 came out10:53
nikkiaKhaBal: i started using linux in 199210:54
KhaBalim 15 years old10:54
KhaBalbrb10:54
nikkiaversion 0.1310:54
monchichii guess 199510:54
MorphDK2110:54
KhaBalcan you get a job with linux?10:54
Deanodriverblack-whisp, thanks, but I want it to automount on bootup (hence why I wanted to know how to do it in /etc/fstab10:54
MorphDKKhaBal, I did :)10:54
monchichikhabal, of course you can10:54
KhaBalwow10:54
monchichior you can sysadmin10:54
KhaBali cant wait then10:54
black-whispDeanodriver: it's there-  ;) the fstab thing you want10:54
Deanodriverok, thanks :)10:54
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KhaBalbrb guys eating10:54
emiliobuenas10:55
emilioalgun espaol en la web10:55
emilio?10:55
monchichii got paid $300 to set up a suse enterprise/openexchange server today10:55
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monchichiand it was fun!10:55
monchichino espanol aqui10:55
monchichies posible hay un poquito10:55
mo_buDoes anybody know if there's any proper support for Toshiba A60 laptops yet?  I've looked on the web but from what I can see a lot of the Toshiba stuff is outdated.10:55
emiliook10:56
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oggemonchichi, oh my gosh. you got your own company?10:56
monchichii love the warnings about breezy everywhere and how much i ignore them10:56
monchichiogge: yeah man, im self employed10:57
black-whispis fdisk availble thrue the terminal?10:57
monchichieveryone needs computer work10:57
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ubuntu_yes fdisk availble thrue the terminal10:58
Nermalwell duh10:59
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ubuntu_how do i get both my monitors working?10:59
Nermalin X?10:59
Nermaledit your xorg.conf10:59
ubuntu_do i just download some nvidia drivers or what?10:59
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ubuntu_what do i edit?10:59
Nermaledit your xorg.conf10:59
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mattyJwhat filesystem does ubuntu use by default?11:00
Nermalerm.. none really11:00
Nermalubuntu_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20128  *spoon feed*11:00
mattyJwhen you do auto partition what one does it use11:00
Nermalerm... reiser I imagine11:01
Nermalmaybe ext3 for boot11:01
ubuntu_how do i find xorg.conf?11:01
Nermaloh for fucks sake11:01
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Nermal/etc/X11/xorg.conf11:01
ubuntu_ta11:01
Nermalor locate xorg.conf11:01
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Nermalleaving due to vast numbers of cretins and n00bs11:02
ubuntu_just wanted 2 know where it was11:02
Nermalshame this channel has gone downhill11:02
ubuntu_i'm a complete noob11:02
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sjoerdmattyJ: ext3 by default when doing auto partitioning11:02
Poromiespfooh, got breezy installed11:02
mattyJsjoerd: for the "/" partition? im in windows right now and i need to backup some files, trying to get this to work so i can read the filesystem11:02
monchichinermal, i think its great that so many people are switching to ubuntu11:03
sjoerdmattyJ: yep11:03
monchichior linux in general11:03
monchichitry to help out where i can11:03
monchichiyou were a noob once too11:03
mattyJnermal already left, and ya, no reason to get mad about people asking questions, we are not all born with this stuff in our head11:04
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Amaranthhey, he said he didn't want to be here :D11:04
Amaranth...just kidding11:04
MorphDKtoo bad..11:04
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peterretiefif you dont want to help someone just keep quiet - or what?11:05
monchichioh woops, the logout color blends with my background11:05
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black-whisphehe.. monchichi..11:06
monchichiim always ranting at people who arent even there ;)11:07
black-whispthats the way you get the least arguments back. ;)11:07
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MorphDKnice ;)11:08
oggemy usb (1.0) wired optical logitech hungs up it self sometimes. freezes. any1 other got experienced this?11:08
monchichiogge, nope11:08
black-whispmonchichi: just a shame that i dont have enough experience to help people.. ;) hehe would mess more than help. :P11:09
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oggestill the stickpin works when usb mouse freezes. strange..11:09
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WMCoolmonwell, looks like the new kernel doesn't help: not only does video quit, but the soundcard issues with the A2NX weren't fixed. Although they may have been fixed in the final ver and not the release candidate11:10
WMCoolmonso, new question: why is x-chat not remembering my username?11:10
monchichiogge, run "cat /var/log/syslog | grep usb" and see what it gives you11:10
KhaBalback11:11
WMCoolmoni remember it used to...and it's getting late, so this will be my last question11:11
KhaBalanyone still here?11:11
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monchichiwmcoolman, the video probably quits becase youre using the nvidia driver.. and it hasnt been released for 2.6.12 yet11:11
oggemonchichi, Ill try it out.11:11
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KhaBalmonchichi: if i wanted a linux job what will i need from school11:11
WMCoolmonmonchichi: yeah, since the .12 kernel doesn't offer me anything for now i'm sticking with the .1011:11
monchichiblack-whisp: just wanting to help is good enough, rather than wanting to be the ke3l l33t hax0r gaosho 0WN3r of the n3t11:12
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KhaBallol11:13
monchichikhabal: it depends what you want to do11:13
WMCoolmonso no clue why my username in x-chat keeps resetting itself?11:13
black-whispmonchichi: hehe.. ;)..11:13
Poromiesuuuh, finally got this thing working!11:13
KhaBalmonchichi: what can you do on linux as a job?11:13
KhaBalprogramming?11:13
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KhaBalscripting?11:13
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monchichiemcoolmon: no idea :/... try rm -r ~/.xchat and starting from scratch11:13
Poromiestook me mad trying for couple of days.. my hardware-clock was going 2.4x normal speed/time11:13
Poromiesphew11:13
WMCoolmonmonchichi: k, brb11:13
Poromiesfinaly, yes!11:14
KhaBalmy CPU speed is 100%11:14
KhaBalsomething using it up alot by dont know what11:14
monchichikhabal: you could just teach yourself with some books if you want11:14
mo_buSorry guys.  Had to restart system.  Anyway, as before if anyone knows anything about supporting Toshiba A60 laptops under Ubuntu Hoary 5.04 let me know.  I'm away from my computer (in the office) but any info would be helpful.  Thanks.11:14
KhaBalmonchichi: if you learnt alot about linux what will that help in getting a job?11:14
erbeli'm unable to mount certain partitions on boot, using hoary, upgraded to kernel 2.6.12.1. my HDD w/ the boot partitions (including NTFS and VFAT) mount fine is SATA. the drive w/ partitions not automounting is PATA. i've tried creating an S99 personal mount 'script' but says the device /dev/hdaX does not exist. when i do a mount -a after i login, it mount fine though. is there any way to fix this without reverting to the old kernel?11:14
mo_buSpecifically I'm looking at power management for CPU and LCD.  I've got sound working fine.11:14
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Poromiesanyone else had this mad clock-problem with 64bit Linux, that makes your systemclock tick twice the normal speed?11:14
oggemo_bu, dont know if ubuntu supports toshiba A60. But mine Toshiba Satellite 1700 (or something) works great. All hardware supported.11:15
KhaBalmonchichi: usually all you worry about now is school then when u get to uni or whatever then you start worrying about your job dont you?11:15
syndnew iTunes is out (for all you OS X users)11:15
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WMCoolmonmonchichi: x-chat seems to have had its amnesia cured, thanks :)11:15
monchichimonchichi: thats what some people do.. i majored in biology at uni for some reason, got bored in computer classes cause i already new most of it11:16
KhaBallol11:16
LostyWhat's the password for the default user on a Ubuntu livecd?11:16
LostyI want to do su operations but can't11:16
KhaBali want a linux job that gets you a reasonable amount of money11:16
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WMCoolmonthanks to everyone who helped :)11:17
KhaBalim in year10 i think i need really high maths thats about it11:17
KhaBalmonchichi: whats your job admins?11:17
Lostyanybody have help for me?11:18
monchichikhabal: mostly just administering networks for businesses11:18
KhaBallinux/11:18
KhaBalcan you like work for a company11:18
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monchichisometimes i get to do something fun with linux,11:18
MorphDKKhaBal, yes11:18
mo_buogge, Ubuntu runs fine with my system and recognises pretty much everything and battery lasts OK but because I can't control LCD brightness it sometimes eats power when I don't need it too.  Also suspend to RAM/Disk does not work at all.11:18
KhaBali dont know if theres one in australia/melbourne11:19
monchichiyeah, ive been offered permanent sysadmin jobs but id rather not have a boss..11:19
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mo_buogge, Thanks for the help anyway11:19
aleckhello!11:19
oggeHow can I view unused disk space?11:19
oggemo_bu. its ok!11:19
KhaBalcan u show me some examples with jobs in linux?11:20
aleckcould anyone help me with installing ubuntu?11:20
KhaBalscripting, programming, networking?11:20
KhaBalaleck, its simple11:20
MorphDKogge, df -H ?11:20
oggealeck. what type of install do you want?11:20
MazI was not able to add a user during install, could someone show me his sudoers file, or the script that make user privileged user ?11:20
oggethans morph.11:20
MorphDKnp11:20
alecki have XP and was wondering whether i could install on top of it and not lose my mp3's and movie files and most of all photoshop files11:20
KhaBalhttp://www.linux.org.au/jobs/ :)11:21
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monchichialeck if you have enough diskspace, np11:21
MorphDKargH!11:21
aleckand if i happen not to like ubuntu could i reverse the installation?11:21
erbeli'm unable to mount certain partitions on boot, using ubuntu 5.04, upgraded to kernel 2.6.12.1. my HDD w/ the boot partitions (including NTFS and VFAT) mount fine is SATA. the drive w/ partitions not automounting is PATA. i've tried creating an S99 personal mount 'script' but says the device /dev/hdaX does not exist. when i do a mount -a after i login, it mounts fine though. is there any way to fix this without reverting to the old kernel?11:21
MorphDKi can't upgrade my firefox..11:21
KhaBalohhh11:21
KhaBalpart time debian linux sys adm11:21
oggeoh my god, Just discovered dragging windows to the right puts it in the next desktopspace. So sweet :D11:21
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KhaBaltheres a job up for grabs in austrlia "part time debian linux sys adm"11:22
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monchichimorphdk.. use the ubuntu backports to update firefox11:22
LostyHow do I authenticate for su, when I'm running from a livecd and haven't configured any users?11:22
monchichihttp://backports.ubuntuforums.org11:22
monchichirun sudo passwd in a terminal and set a root password11:23
oggeHow do I fast switch to next desktopspace11:23
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MorphDKmonchichi, it tells me to to a dist-upgrade.. isn't that bad?11:23
monchichikhabal: there ya go, perfect :)11:23
monchichictrl+shift+right arrow11:23
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oggedidnt work. but ctrl + alt did :)11:24
Lostymonchichi, excellent.  Thanks.11:24
KhaBalmonchichi: are these jobs, training first? or do you go straight into it?11:24
MorphDKmonchichi, it says "The following packages have been kept back: mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support" when I do an apt-get upgrade11:24
monchichiah11:24
AmaranthMorphDK: Are you upgrading to breezy?11:24
MorphDKAmaranth, no, i don't want to11:24
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monchichido apt-get install mozilla-firefox and what happens?11:25
Poromiesanyone using badger? what is the Backports adres to put into the sources.list please, same as with hoary?11:25
oggemaan, think its such a delay in here. where is this freenode server located?11:25
AmaranthPoromies: breezy doesn't have backports, backports come from breezy11:25
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MorphDKmonchichi, it tells me the updates for mozilla-firefox has been kept back11:25
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monchichiim using breezy, but theres no backports11:25
Amaranthogge: depends on which one you're on11:25
Poromiesach, thanks11:25
MorphDKmonchichi, and i'm already using backports in my sources.list11:25
monchichimorphdk, idk, check the forums11:25
Amaranthogge: some are in the US and i think 2 or 3 are in EU11:25
oggeisnt there only one freenodeserver11:26
Amaranthno11:26
oggeoh ok11:26
Amaranththere are 7, iirc11:26
Amaranthit's a network11:26
LostyIs it at all possible to mount HFS+ drives from Ubuntu?  Mount seems to not support that filesystem11:26
AmaranthLosty: Last I heard HFS+ support was highly experimental and not included in any distro11:27
monchichilosty, theres an hfsplus kernel module  floating around that works pretty well11:27
ubuntu_how do i get 2 monitors haappening??11:27
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Lostydamn11:28
nikkiamonchichi: the modules are there11:28
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LostyI'm just booting from a livecd on my powerbook and I want to manage my partitions11:28
ubuntu_same11:28
ubuntu_i got an old lilo i want to get rid of11:29
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ubuntu_so i can install ubuntu11:29
nikkialosty, did the partition table get reported correctly?11:29
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jinocan i install rpm files on ubuntu11:29
nikkialosty, the usual problem with mac disks is that apple use a different partition scheme to everyone else11:29
Lostynikkia, itk11:29
SliderManhow do i oopen bin files?11:29
Lostyidk*11:29
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nikkialosty, look at the dmesg output and see if the partitions look right :)11:30
Amaranthjino: That depends, you can try to run alien on it.11:30
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