=== TheMuso [~luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bradb [~bradb@modemcable082.64-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === GNULinuxer [~ghoseb@gnulinuxer.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ..[topic/#ubuntu-devel:ogra] : Ubuntu Development | #ubuntu for support and general discussion | #ubuntu-love for getting involved | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DeveloperResources | If you have unexpectedly lost editbugs privileges, talk to mdz/ogra/kiko | BugDay !! June 29 2005 in #ubuntu-bugs join in, go squash ! === restrex [~jp@200-85-201-55.bk3-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Omni [~icechat5@c-24-3-32-20.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:17] could anyone help me with a prism2 usb wifi adapter and hostap? [12:17] wrong channel, that's someting for #ubuntu [12:18] +h [12:18] sorry === Omni [~icechat5@c-24-3-32-20.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [12:24] seb128, join #ubuntu-bugs, its for you :) [12:24] ogra: what is for me? [12:25] #ubuntu-bugs :) should fell like home ;) [12:25] a bug squash without notice on the day where bugzilla.gnome.org box is beeing moved? no thanks [12:25] feel even [12:31] can someone remind me what UVF really means to me as a maintainer [12:32] tseng, no new upstream version [12:32] it would be sortof crap if I couldnt put in the next beagle [12:32] etc [12:32] tseng, only with approval [12:32] I see. [12:38] <\sh> hmmm....can someone translate this for me: http://mnm.uib.es/gallir/posts/2005/06/24/343/ [12:40] i do not like the stucture of Debian [12:41] the second sentence is harder :P [12:41] Too much democracy is sometimes bleak and it does not allow you to continue advancing. [12:41] says. babelfish.altavista.com [12:41] that sounds close [12:41] <\sh> yes...but the comments are not making any sense to me ;) [12:42] sh me :) [12:42] \sh what do you want to know? [12:42] \sh: probably he says you have not much knowledge on how Debian works, if you think it's a democrazy [12:43] <\sh> hmmm..i should learn spanish [12:43] <\sh> so i can answer him ;) [12:43] \sh aprende pues ;) [12:44] well [12:44] <\sh> hehe..I was surprised to get many hits from this site [12:44] there appears that somebody called Stephan Hermann [12:44] said that he doesn't like debian estructure === herzi [~herzi@c220056.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:47] <\sh> restrex: thx :) [12:47] \sh, he qoutes this: ...nd it's also a matter why I don't like the Debian structure. Too much of democracy is sometimes hopeless and stops you from going further. [12:47] <\sh> ogra: jajaja ;) I know what I wrote ;) [12:48] there appears that somebody called Stephan Hermann said that he doesn't like debian estructure and said that it's so much democracy that sometimes doesn't allow you to advance [12:48] :) [12:48] sorry mi english \sh [12:48] :p [12:49] some comments are negative :) [12:49] restrex, which is very much out of context :) since he compares debian "democracy" to ubuntu "dictatorship" [12:50] this qoute doesnt credit that.... sadly [12:51] hmm the guy who posted says that ubuntu exits 'cause exits debian, and that kind of comments criticing debian it's not valid (im only translating him idea) [12:51] are not valid [12:51] and, indeed, ubuntu would not exist without debian [12:52] sure [12:52] <\sh> and I never said, that debian is evil...(as one of my comments on my blog tried to say)...so I put it right in another article...anyways [12:53] the MOTUs would have a very hard time without debian, especially [12:54] <\sh> I should drink some beer with martin in oldenburg... [12:54] \sh ye, he only wanted to critique you, 'cause there aren't so good argumentents, only a: "ubuntu exists 'cause exits debian" [12:55] that's only a debian fan comment, you have to understand that :) [12:55] on the commnets there are people that don't think like him :) === ajmitch is a debian fan also, but doesn't talk like that :) === \sh is going to be PC: \sh 's a fan of debian, redhat, suse, mandriva, sun, ubuntu, gentoo, archlinux, damnsmalllinux, damnbiglinux, livelinux,offlinelinux, whateverlinux ;) [12:58] <\sh> anylinux i forgot? well, yes, goingtobedlinux :) [12:58] what about opensolaris? [12:58] wuahahha [12:58] <\sh> so g'night :) [12:58] \sh: sleep tight. :-) [12:59] <\sh> Mithrandir: I'm a joerg schiling fan as well ,-) [12:59] \sh: sick bastard. :-) [12:59] :o [12:59] <\sh> Mithrandir: hahaha [12:59] <\sh> Mithrandir: sad, that bsdi doesn't exist anymore...:( [01:00] <\sh> so...off to bed [01:00] night \sh [01:00] mdz, who would I talk to about wiki improvements? [01:01] Burgundavia, hno73 [01:01] ok [01:01] mdz, nev ind [01:01] Burgundavia, there is a feature request wikipage [01:01] ogra, yes [01:01] ogra, I was talking with upstream moin about a feature [01:01] use it :) [01:02] they liked it [01:02] ah [01:02] said it would take about an hour of dev time [01:02] I was wondering who to whinge to about paying that person (a moin dev) to do it === hawk_78 [~hawk@82.53.59.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === womble [~mpalmer@203-219-190-106.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Enneka [~Neka@APlessis-Bouchard-153-1-56-85.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Enneka [~Neka@APlessis-Bouchard-153-1-56-85.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [01:54] ogra: about the bug squashing party ... there are still about 15 C++ libs not yet converted / buildable on breezy and about 500 reverse depends on libstdc++5 without an explicite build dependency on g++-3.3 or libstdc++5-3.4-dev. Many of them are packages with patches in Debian, which are not applied in Ubuntu. The rest needs to be sorted out to C++ problem/xorg reorg problem/dpkg-architecture problem. I don't know if fixes for thes [01:54] e kind of bugs are sexy enough, but you may want to propose them [01:56] doko, he just went to bed i think === wasabi [~wasabi@c-67-174-81-195.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jlj [~agp@AMontpellier-152-1-47-29.w81-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robtaylor_ [~robtaylor@dyn1.sesnet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kafeine [~kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:19] daniels: ping === infinity looks at the 1000 new failed build logs in his INBOX and grunts at doko. === Cenobite [~cenobite@c1-91-1.pmb.dial.mweb.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Cenobite [~cenobite@c1-91-1.pmb.dial.mweb.co.za] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [02:26] #0 0x083de64c in a52_free () [02:26] #1 0x083dd5cd in a52_block () [02:26] #2 0x081287a3 in a52_fillbuff () === lamont__ hates audio === toresbe sings in front of lamont__ === lamont__ wonders if there are known bugs in AD1981B OSS + mplayer === mgalvin [~mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shaya [~spotter@user-0ccembr.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi [~wasabi@c-67-174-81-195.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _Legion_ [~adebarbar@labi.fi.uba.ar] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stuNNed [~stuNNed@stunned.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KaiL [KaiL@p548F7E0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KaiL [KaiL@p548F7E0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stuNNed [~stuNNed@stunned.user] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === warthylog [~warthylog@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Topic for #ubuntu-devel: Ubuntu Development | #ubuntu for support and general discussion | #ubuntu-love for getting involved | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DeveloperResources | If you have unexpectedly lost editbugs privileges, talk to mdz/ogra/kiko | BugDay !! June 29 2005 in #ubuntu-bugs join in, go squash ! === Topic (#ubuntu-devel): set by ogra at Wed Jun 29 00:09:35 2005 [06:12] jdub: busy? === fabbione [~fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:16] morning === marcin_ant [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua [~minghua@ppp-70-247-42-78.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:24] Hi, I am wondering how unstable is synchronized with breezy right now [06:24] since the freetype 2.1.10-1 in unstable is broken [06:25] see debian bug #314385 and #316031 [06:25] breezy should stick to freetype 2.1.7 [06:25] and wait for this to be sorted out [06:26] lamont: pong, ish [06:26] lamont: my laptop's hard drive blew up today, so I'm kind of limited [06:26] daniels: heh [06:26] ouch [06:26] and got to remember how to crimp cat5 [06:26] it's about a 20m run from my desktop to the AP [06:26] was wondering if you could (in email, even) rattle off the list of packages that have been split out of xorg [06:26] hmm, maybe it should be "how breezy is synced with unstable"? anyway, I think everyone understands me [06:26] lamont: in email, no [06:26] lamont: irc, yes (bear in mind my email lives on my laptop ...) [06:27] daniels: here is fine to, or in /msg [06:27] lamont: x11proto-*-dev, libxau, libxdmcp, libice, libsm, libx11, libxext [06:27] libxfixes, libxdamage and libxcomposite are next on my hit list [06:27] oh, also xtrans [06:27] and xterm [06:27] and xfonts-core :) [06:28] daniels: plan is to queue those ahead of xorg... and then pester you about what we really want to do about the ones that are non-PIC-in-shlib [06:28] lamont: hrm [06:28] surely libtool should take care of all this [06:28] minghua: breezy has freetype_2.1.7-2.4ubuntu1, so manual effort will be required to get the debian version. [06:29] daniels: choices are (1) provide a .so, (2) provide a _pic.a, (3) don't link that lib [06:29] in at least some cases, it's really (1) but there's a missing build-dep [06:29] lamont: yes I saw that breezy is fine right now, I am just here to raise the alarm [06:29] er, "some cases" == some cases across the entire archive, not necessarily specifically xorg [06:29] lamont: I hope the developers are already aware of this [06:30] minghua: whoever does the merge will hopefully note that there are RC bugs in the debian version before they upload... if those debian bugs are RC, then they're already in ubuntu [06:30] er, in the bts, that is. [06:30] right then. sleep [06:31] lamont: we already provide a .so [06:31] yo lamont [06:31] daniels: coolness [06:31] jdub: sup? she's gonna kill me if I don't leave soon [06:31] lamont: Okay, there is a RC bug, so things should be fine. Thanks for the explanation. === mxpxpod [~bryan@mxpxpod.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:34] does anyone else get a relocation error when using the workspace switcher applet on ppc in breezy? [06:34] jdub: /msg or something - I'll probably wander past again in about 60-120 minutes or so [06:34] lamont: just saying yo :) [06:34] jdub: heh. yo back at ya. :-) [06:34] and hello to the nice lady, too [06:35] lamont-away: she sends hugs :) === lamont-away sleeps [06:36] salut jdub [06:36] yo [06:36] much yo === camilotelles [~Camilo@201.19.213.83] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:38] yo jdub [06:39] YO! [06:39] yo all [06:40] oy [06:43] jdub: I take it you maintain planet ubuntu? [06:44] yeah [06:44] though i don't have shell access to it [06:44] which can be annoying at times [06:44] can I get syndicated? I have some cool ubuntu stuff I'd like to blog ... and since I'm blogging about ubuntu 90% of the time anyway ... [06:45] whiprush: are you a member yet? (you should be) [06:45] yep [06:45] ahr! [06:45] dude, why didn't you say? :) [06:45] heh. [06:46] i'll add you now, but it has to wait on elmo love to update [06:46] <3 [06:47] I've been kind of out of the loop, been doing lots of loco stuff locally. === nails [~nails@adsl-1-146.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:49] daniels, heya, decided to stalk you for an X question [06:49] daniels, will R7 use regular pathnames - /usr/bin etc? === rjo [~jordens@rjo.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:51] whiprush: added [06:51] elmo: please update planet -> can we work out something better for this? [06:52] woo, thx. [06:55] nails: yeah, fo'sho [06:55] nails: no more /usr/X11R6 [06:56] sweet. [06:56] sun will melt. [06:57] heh [06:57] well, we already started that with XF86Config-4 -> xorg.conf [06:57] the compromise was leaving it in /etc/X11 === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0623.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:10] jdub: for planet.u.c: http://www3.telus.net/robitaille/hackergotchi.png === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:18] daniels, ok, just as long as you make the new config file use m4 [07:18] ;^) === Saba_Z [~reza@81.31.166.231] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:20] nails: usability++, yo === Saba_Z [~reza@81.31.166.231] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === lathiat_ [~lathiat@penguins.squaa.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:35] whiprush: hey long time no see [07:35] hey man [07:36] what's keeping you busy other than the "Ubuntu loco" stuff i've been readin g in the log [07:36] sheer ineptitude. [07:36] hahaha [07:37] go blam [07:37] it just died but the notification icon still lives [07:37] lesson #1 from UDU, don't say "oh sure, I'll help" when you don't have the time. [07:39] it doesn't eat up that much time to help out (unless you're really swamped with real work) [07:39] I plan on doing the bug day tomorrow (tomorrow for me), and starting to file down my todo a bit. Just been procastinating. === jsgotangco hugs his emacs planner for keeping him on track [07:40] on the plus side our LoCo's been growing. Up top over 20 people now. [07:41] wow that's news [07:41] It's kind of odd, I've ran into three C/GTK dudes in the past few weeks that are just "looking for a way to help." [07:42] oh i know the feeling, i've encoutered those types recently [07:42] So we're starting to organize activities around that. Hopefully get funding from my University to get us all to a GNOME thing in NY or Boston where I can point them to mentors or something. [07:43] at least you have access to potential funding... [07:45] heh [07:47] We've been slowly converting professors over to Ubuntu for their research work. Hopefully they'll include Ubuntu in their biblios. [07:47] All these math people seem to seek out linux for fortran compilers and whatnot, they're kind of ripe targets. [07:50] jsgotangco: and how are things in the phillipines? [07:51] major bummer dude, its like Watergate here in the political side [07:51] Heh, I meant on the Ubuntu front. [07:52] wiretapped materials on the president heh [07:52] heh [07:52] heh [07:52] oh we had our loco running and will be sponsoring software freedom day [07:52] good good [07:52] we're doing an installfest on SFD here. [07:52] on the docteam side, we'll be starting our regular meeting tommorow at 14UTC [07:53] good good. === drbyte [~byte@c220-237-62-156.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:53] that should end those CAN! CANNOT! threads on the list [07:54] heh [07:54] You guys did the wiki transition right? Your team? [07:55] well not really, it was henrik's project he's a canonical guy but some people helped out on the transition scripts [07:55] cool [07:55] hey whiprush, jsgotangco [07:55] i don't really mess up with the former wiki but the moin wiki now is actually great [07:55] it still has some bugs though [07:55] ajmitch: hey [07:55] hey aj [07:56] (some people still like mediawiki though) === jsgotangco is a mediawiki closet practitioner [07:56] I'm a mediawiki fan, but at this stage I'd settle for "don't change it again please." [07:56] yeah moin is actually great === squinn joins jsgotangco and whiprush === `anthony [~anthony@ekorp-203-63-137-225.eoff.ekorp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nails [~nails@adsl-1-146.swiftdsl.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === Burgundavia grumbles at gimp === Burgundavia grumbles at fspot [08:05] fspot will not import the bloody image [08:05] gah === marilize [~marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:11] Morning [08:13] morning === mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0623.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Jimbob [~jcape@c-24-14-115-101.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === infinity grumbles about the old xlibmesa-glu in the archive that needs to be removed. [08:31] elmo / kamion ---^ === haggai [~halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:51] <\sh> can someone remove gmetadom_0.2.2-3ubuntu2 from the buildd asap? there is an error inside :( [08:51] Too late, dude, it's already installed. [08:52] <\sh> *grmpf* [08:52] <\sh> anyways...preparing ubuntu3 [08:53] Alright, I re-froze the two things that were supposed to build against it, so no harm done, really. [08:54] <\sh> i'm too tired and my eyes playing games with me :( annoying this [08:54] <\sh> I need some holidays [08:55] Oo, oo, me too! Send me some! [08:55] at that price, I'll take two [08:56] <\sh> beginning of september I'll take 2 weeks off...but I need to think about the place where I want to stay... === buxy [~raphael@arrakeen.ouaza.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0623.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:01] <\sh> ivoks: what r u doing from the 2nd of September +2 weeks? I think I need to visit croatia and need a place to sleep ;) [09:01] :) [09:02] \sh: 2 weeks? :) [09:02] i think i'll be able to manage something... [09:02] <\sh> ivoks: i don't really know...depends on my money ;) [09:02] <\sh> one week minimum :) === pitti [~pitti@dialin-145-254-079-028.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:03] so... what's your motivation to come here? :) [09:04] <\sh> ivoks: holiday :) [09:04] <\sh> ivoks: u know this stuff: relaxing, reading, looking out for a new Mrs. \sh [09:05] <\sh> forget the new Mrs. \sh [09:06] :) [09:06] <\sh> coffee first... [09:06] well, i'm in continental part of croatia === fwiffo [~fwiffo@dhcpserver0.oersted.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti_ [~pitti@dialin-145-254-190-227.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ska-fan [~ska-fan@dsl-084-059-067-094.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cameron [~cameron@c-24-22-122-59.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:13] hey === Mez [~mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:14] the ubuntu laptop team is in this channel, correct? [09:14] Hi cameron [09:15] i am thinking about buying a powerbook, and i am wondering how compatable they are with ubuntu [09:15] what advice would you have for me? [09:15] hi pitti [09:15] hi pitti_ * [09:15] cameron: #ubuntu [09:15] so sorry.. good day! [09:15] cameron: well, many of us are using pbs, I'm using an iBook [09:16] is ther any of the hardware that is incompatable? [09:16] cameron: the airport extreme doesn't work, but the rest works pretty well [09:16] i was planning on usin\g an orinoco anyway [09:17] daniels: can we please get the xterm default colors back? [09:17] fabbione: can you what the what? [09:17] daniels: xterm default colors are white fg and black bg [09:17] pitti, thanks for your help [09:17] the latest xterm is fg black on greish bg [09:18] fabbione: btw, since breezy's 2.6.10 kernel has a lot of outstanding vulns, shall we demote it to universe? [09:18] er, xterm default colours are black fg, white bg [09:18] pitti: we can just remove it [09:18] pitti: completely [09:18] even better [09:18] daniels: and get -rv to work again.. :) [09:18] daniels: either one or the other ;) [09:20] fabbione: will check it out; -fg white -bg black should make you happy in the meantime [09:20] daniels: yeah i did that already... :) [09:21] but yeah, upstream's default colours have been like that forever [09:21] not in our xterm... [09:22] i used to execute just xterm and get white fg and black bg === pitti [~pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:24] the net is going to be highly unstable soon === vuntz [~vuntz@volin.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dand [~dand@gw.datagroup.ro] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chmj [~chmj@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:37] Hey chmj, good morning [09:37] good morning pitti [09:37] chmj: could you check whether we can sync wget? the new debian version has security fixes [09:38] i already asked elmo for a sync [09:39] ah, thanks [09:39] Didn't ours have aun updated translation or two? [09:40] s/aun/an/ === r0bby [~wakawaka@cpe-204-210-133-115.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:43] infinity: that should have been the translation from upstream, wasn't it? [09:43] Oh, yes. It was. Didn't realise that Debian had a new upstream version finally. [09:44] In that case, nevermind. :) === hunger [~hunger@p54A64A24.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JaneW [~JaneW@wbs-146-148-231.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === r0bby [~wakawaka@cpe-204-210-133-115.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Echylo [~echylo@252-171.246.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nick_ [~ups@203.200.160.52] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gbon121 [~peppe@bohr.pisa.iol.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-22-36.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nick_ is now known as ups [10:14] infinity: the last batch of uploads reduced the libstdc++5 rdepends from 880 to 530. Now we know which packages need manual fixing. [10:16] doko : I noticed. [10:16] <\sh> doko: cxx stuff? === kaspersv [~kaspersv@0x50a24901.virnxx15.adsl.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:16] \sh: yes [10:16] <\sh> 530 packs? [10:17] 530 rdeps. Some may be from the same source packages. Hopefully. :) === retrix [~sam@ppp222-72.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:17] I've got 427 on powerpc... [10:18] That's a lot of i386-specific C++ packages... Or doko's count is old. === \sh has 610 rdeps on stdc++5 === sabdfl [~mark@host217-37-231-22.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:20] daniels@brainfreeze:~/Maildir% offlineimap -u Curses.Blinkenlights [10:20] offlineimap -u Curses.Blinkenlights 159.90s user 15.23s system 3% cpu 1:36:45.33 total [10:21] daniels@brainfreeze:~/Maildir% [10:21] thank god for mail backups, but that wasn't quick [10:24] \sh: you are sure, you don't have old libraries installed on your system? apt-cache rdepends libstdc++5|wc -l counts 528, minus the two header lines === sabdfl [~mark@sabdfl.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ska-fan [~ska-fan@dsl-084-059-067-094.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === buxy [~raphael@arrakeen.ouaza.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KaiL [KaiL@p548F7E0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robtaylor_ [~robtaylor@dyn1.sesnet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yvonne [~fsck@cn-sdm-cr02-2552.dial.kabelfoon.nl] has joined 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It can still be synced, though === TheMuso [~luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Treenaks_ is now known as Treenaks === ivoks [~ivoks@wall3.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dand [~dand@gw.datagroup.ro] has joined #ubuntu-devel === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jlje [~agp@AMontpellier-152-1-40-85.w81-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === susus_ [~sz@p5089D950.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:45] seb128: does the gstreamer polypaudio sink work for you? I get nothing but silence === \sh_away [~shermann@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh [10:45] pitti: lemme try, I use alsasink atm === hubWork [~hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:47] pitti: from what i understand, its only basic === jsgotangco [~user@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:47] pitti: polypaudio doesn't start .. [10:47] Lathiat: basic what? [10:47] pitti: the plugin [10:48] it should work tho [10:48] for basic values of workign === Kamion [~cjwatson@83-216-156-196.colinw664.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:50] Hi Kamion === tobi_v [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JanC [~janc@dD5764B58.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tobi_v [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [10:51] morning === tvo [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:52] Kamion: g'morning [10:52] hey Kamion === Kamion sucks down a load of images === stub [~stub@203-217-37-199.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:55] ogra: good grief, your bug-day mail is a bit ZIPPY the PINHEAD :-) [10:55] heh [10:57] was it to political ? :) [10:58] ogra: i think he means TOTALLY RANDOM words capitalised THROUGHOUT the SENTENCE [10:58] too ZIPPY. ZIPPY. [10:58] argh [10:58] ah [10:58] network manager sucks [10:58] if i have a cable in, it refuses,no matterhow many times i forceit bac, to stick on the wireless [10:58] elmo: at least it was zippy rather than btaf === hunger agrees with Lathiat. [10:58] yes it was late... i'll do better next time :) [10:58] imt rying to use my ethernet temporarilyto talk to abox im setting up [10:58] and its imposible [10:58] furthermore [10:58] i had to kill it 15 times before it stopped spawning itself [10:59] apt 0.6.39ubuntu1> hoorah === martink [~martin@p54B3A1A3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:59] elmo: can we get the extraoverrides patch applied on the ftp-masters? [11:00] (er, both machines, I mean) [11:00] Why is python2.4-numarray trying to install gcc-3.4-base? === daniels giggles. [11:00] Kamion: we can patch ftp-masters? [11:00] patch omnic < useful.patch [11:01] Kamion: damnit man, get out of my head [11:01] haha [11:02] damn, you guys are HARSH [11:03] elmo: we learnt from the master [11:04] Kamion: now if only we could patch elmo [11:04] -tuna [11:04] -saveloys [11:04] +vegetables [11:07] daniels: while for you it would be: [11:07] -bling [11:07] +working x [11:07] ? === marcin_ant [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:10] hey [11:10] x works fine [11:11] daniels: you back? [11:13] daniels: so we can patch you with bling again? :-) === ivoks [~ivoks@wall3.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:21] Lathiat: hm? [11:21] Mithrandir: everyone loves bling [11:22] daniels: from whereever you were hiding making people do dodgy xorg uploads for you :) [11:22] oh, germany [11:22] hey, I didn't ask for any of those [11:22] sure but you werent there to stop them! :) === \sh knows only the machine with the ping === rob^ [~rob@dsl-202-52-55-156.qld.veridas.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [~mark@sabdfl.silver.supporter.pdpc] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [11:31] <\sh> pitti: ping [11:31] <\sh> thom: ping [11:31] \sh: boonngggggg [11:31] <\sh> pitti: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4679 === hunger [~hunger@p54A64A24.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["...] [11:33] pitti, it boog day ! you'll see all this dusty old stuff today :) === hunger [~hunger@p54A64A24.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:34] \sh: I know about that, warty is still vulnerable [11:34] <\sh> pitti: ok...and a backport from hoary to warty? [11:34] \sh: the pending warty update fixes some 20 vulns, but has a regression that needs to be sorted out first [11:35] <\sh> pitti: k thx 4 the info :) === HiddenWolf [~HiddenWol@213-73-250-180.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:35] \sh: thanks to you guys for cleaning up :-) [11:35] oops, I was thrown out of #u-bugs [11:37] just curious, who has decided to do a bug day today? === marilize [~marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:40] seb128, mdz, kiko and me [11:40] k, bad choice guys [11:40] seb128, we didnt know about the gnomeaoutage [11:40] just picking the day where gnome.org is down [11:40] you point that for bug triage [11:40] and there is no way to do desktop bug triage [11:40] yeah [11:40] seb128, but google chache works... you just cant change gnome bugs, but read them at least [11:41] no communication is bad [11:41] seb128, its only the initial bugday... we'll have more of them [11:41] somebody would have send a mail 2 days ago ... [11:41] yeah, but still [11:42] why keeping that private until the bug day ? [11:42] I've read about the bug day when the topic has been changed here ... [11:44] seb128, sorry, i planned to announce it earlier... it just didnt work, and its also a bad day for me, since i have to prepare for the edubuntu summit... we'll do better next time, for now we have at least the institution of a bug day... [11:44] What's the other images in the directory with the isos for the cds that hp ships with its notebooks? HP ships the 0516 version, what are the newer versions? [11:46] Who is working on the laptop task for breezy? [11:47] hunger, mjg59 [11:47] mjg59: My laptop (T43p) does not work very well. What can I do to help fix it? [11:48] hunger, there was a announcement of a laptop testplan on the -devel mailling list... with a link to a wikipage ... [11:48] ska-fan: HP will be shipping newer versions [11:48] ogra: I'll check... [11:48] ska-fan: we sent 20050627 to the factory for pressing on Monday [11:49] ska-fan: some of the older ones were a different project, that was fully integrated into Hoary [11:53] Kamion, is it expected that they'll ship ubuntu in some volume? [11:53] And how in the lords name did you manage to get in there? :D === doko_ [~doko___@dsl-084-059-073-068.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === herzi [~herzi@d059156.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _infinity [~adconrad@loki.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kaspersv [~kaspersv@0x50a24901.virnxx15.adsl.tele.dk] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === ealden [~ealden@ipdial-191-235.tri-isys.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vuntz is now known as vuntz|miam [12:02] Kamion: 2 million hoary cds? [12:03] rofl [12:03] heh [12:03] oh sory [12:03] 20 million!!! ? [12:09] HiddenWolf: I believe so; I've just been doing the image production, though - I haven't been involved in discussions beyond that [12:09] HiddenWolf: no idea, but I'm not complaining :-) [12:11] Kamion, rock on. :) [12:11] But they're shipping breezy? :S [12:11] HiddenWolf: no, slightly modified hoary [12:11] mjg59's been doing a bunch of hacking for their laptops [12:12] right, cool [12:12] ska-fan: I'm told the 20050516 image was sent out to magazines as a preview [12:13] Kamion: Ah. So when I need one such CD, and am not getting one from HP, I just use the latest one [12:13] ? [12:13] did I read 20 million? [12:13] jordi: thats what i read [12:13] jordi, yes, someone said that [12:13] where? [12:13] jordi: and 50 thousand ;p [12:13] Kamion, so can you say their laptops are fully supported? [12:14] jordi, ska-fan: we sent 20050627 to the factory [12:14] ogra: that many what, specifically [12:14] $$ ? [12:14] :) [12:14] ogra: err, that's not a quantity, but a date? [12:14] that's 2005-06-27 = 1972 [12:15] hehe [12:15] ska-fan: well, you won't be getting one from HP *just* yet because they haven't been pressed yet - it's not HP's fault :) [12:15] jordi, it was a joke, yes [12:15] ska-fan: 20050627 should be fine, though, yes [12:15] ogra: I'm veeery slow today [12:15] ogra: I just said on a ml that apt 0.6 verifies sigs in .debs :) [12:15] Kamion: but the notebooks without windows aren't available yet, too :/ [12:15] jordi, dont worry.... blame the heat :) [12:15] ska-fan: I don't know anything about that [12:16] jordi, i read debian-gtk-gnome ;) [12:16] Lathiat: oh, er, yes, that was a date, not a number === Safari_Al [~tr@ppp234-166.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:16] ogra: ok :ppp [12:17] :) [12:17] and see whether ntfs is in there [12:17] eh, sorry [12:17] ogra: we need to chat about that presentation I'm leading with JaneW. [12:17] and there... new cluster crack all over the place [12:18] jordi, have you had a look at my first proposal ? [12:18] ogra: for apps? yeah. It nearly matches our (LliureX) selection [12:19] jordi, http://www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDesktop [12:19]