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=== Topic for #ubuntu-java: Java status in Ubuntu:  gij-4.0 now works across all arch's.  See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackagingProgress for next steps, JavaIntegration for goals. | 3.1M7 has pretty much everything we expected. Performance improvements are surprising, however. For example, launching a workspace containing all Eclipse SDK sources used to take close to 2 minutes in 3.1 M6. It now takes under 10 seconds. Good job, guys.
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[01:34] <jbailey> wasabi: ping?
[01:37] <jbailey> I'm curious if you've got the right ant bits in place, and you said you thought you might have an ecj.1 that I could just take for ecj-bootstrap.
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[04:00] <wasabi> http://kyoto.larvalstage.net/~wasabi/ecj.1
[04:00] <wasabi> Probably needs updating
[04:00] <jbailey> 'kay
[04:00] <wasabi> Ant's fine to the best of my knowledge. What's up?
[04:01] <jbailey> checksum mismatch between the changes file and the diff.gz
[04:01] <wasabi> I have to hurry up and get ready for work. I over slept. bbl. ;)
[04:01] <wasabi> eh? what the hell.
[04:01] <wasabi> I rebuilt that.
[04:01] <jbailey> I can try again.
[04:02] <jbailey> Oo, eclipse is there now too.  Do you want that done as well?
[04:02] <wasabi> Yup. ;)
[04:02] <wasabi> Do you mind trying to build it first?
[04:02] <wasabi> I have given it all the tests I can.
[04:02] <wasabi> Redownload ant.
[04:03] <jbailey> No prob.  I'll test on ppc and ia64.
[04:03] <wasabi> I have rebuilt it.
[04:03] <wasabi> I know it won't work on those still.
[04:03] <jbailey> thanks
[04:03] <wasabi> But you'r ewelcome to help fix it!
[04:03] <wasabi> Eclipse suffers from a chicken-and-the-egg problem on !i386
[04:03] <jbailey> Are you able to talk at work?  I don't want to make you late.
[04:04] <wasabi> yeah. thanks. bbl.
[04:05] <wasabi> oh wait don't upload eclipse
[04:05] <wasabi> ya'll don't support ~ in versions yet.
[04:05] <wasabi> I'll package the released 3.1 and that'll fix that. ;)
[04:06] <jbailey> 'kay.  I'll do a test build anyway though.
[04:07] <jbailey> ant uploaded
[04:10] <doko> jbailey: b-d on java-gcj-compat-dev ?
[04:12] <jbailey> java-gcj-compat (>=1.0.28-4ubuntu1)
[04:13] <jbailey> Should that be tweaked and reuploaded?
[04:13] <jbailey> And will ecj-bootstrap need the same love?
[04:17] <wasabi> what is in -dev?
[04:18] <jbailey> wasabi: HAven't you left yet? =)
[04:18] <wasabi> Just finished shower heh
[04:18] <jbailey> *lol
[04:19] <jbailey> I was wondering if you had started using irssi in a screen session. =)
[04:19] <wasabi> So I just had 15 seconds to think about j-g-c-dev. What's in it?
[04:19] <wasabi> The only thing I can think of is the headers.
[04:19] <jbailey> doko: ^^^
[04:20] <jbailey> Helps to use nick highlights. =)
[04:20] <wasabi> And if so, everything should depend on both... as it's not a "Sun comaptible JAVA_HOME" without both.
[04:20] <doko> wasabi: and gcj, and rmic, and javah ...
[04:22] <doko> jbailey: ecj is a b-d of java-gcj-compat-dev
[04:22] <wasabi> Well, that's the thing though.
[04:22] <wasabi> THe idea of j-g-c is to provide Sun compatibility.
[04:23] <wasabi> Without both, it isn't Sun compatible.
[04:28] <wasabi> me->work bbs
[04:58] <doko> wasabi: there is runtime compatibility (jre) and compile time compatibility (sdk). we don't want to have a compiler installed for using an application
[05:00] <jbailey> doko: I think he logs in as a separate account at work, he probably won't see that until he gets home.
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[08:06] <doko> <doko> wasabi: there is runtime compatibility (jre) and compile time compatibility (sdk). we don't want to have a compiler installed for using an application
[08:06] <doko> wasabi_: ^^^
[08:28] <wasabi_> Hmm. Perhaps.
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[09:30] <jbailey> wasabi_: Does ecj-bootstrap need to be touched at all then, or can I upload it?
[09:30] <jbailey> I've hacked in the manpage bits.
[09:31] <wasabi_> It should be fine.
[09:32] <jbailey> And the eclipse directory was empty when I looked earlier.
[09:32] <wasabi_> Yeah. I need to upgrade it to 3.1 release.
[09:32] <wasabi_> I'll get it this evening.
[09:32] <jbailey> Ah, np.  I can look at the !i386 bootstrap issue for the package, too.
[09:33] <wasabi_> I can describe the problem.
[09:33] <wasabi_> There is a pre-built Jar named swttools.jar. What it does is copy the win32 x86 SWT source code to the other platform directories, and replace the "int" native handles with long for 64 bit. And some other stuff for other platforms.
[09:33] <wasabi_> swttools requires SWT to build from scratch.
[09:34] <jbailey> Joy.
[09:34] <jbailey> ecj-bootstrap uploaded.
[09:34] <wasabi_> So, you can't build SWT without swttools, and you can't build/use swttools without swqt
[09:34] <wasabi_> swt
[09:34] <wasabi_> thanks.
[09:34] <jbailey> Make sure to pull the version from the archive when updating to get the manpage changes, please.
[09:34] <wasabi_> swttools isn't actually distributed though, I don't think.
[09:35] <jbailey> I can poke a friend of mine who works on eclipse.
[09:35] <wasabi_> Right now I am simply removing it before the build starts, to make sure.
[09:35] <wasabi_> So !x86 fails.
[10:25] <doko> wasabi_: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/e/ecj-bootstrap/3.0.1-4ubuntu3/ecj-bootstrap_3.0.1-4ubuntu3_20050629-2111-amd64-failed.gz
[10:26] <doko> please can we keep ecj-bootstrap as solid as possible?
[10:26] <wasabi_> mmap not implemented?
[10:26] <wasabi_> what's that?
[10:27] <wasabi_> doko, there is no way I can test on amd64. ;)
[10:29] <jbailey> Umm, AFAIK mmap is implemented fine on amd64.
[10:29] <wasabi_> it's a bug in gcj.
[10:29] <wasabi_> according to #gcj