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korCZizapt-get install aim ??? ;)12:00
cleit0n[chii] : how i installl modem intel 537ep in kubuntu?12:00
bystandertwb_: you might read this too12:00
ubotuI heard repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:00
korCZizwhat is kubuntu?12:00
korCZizhow differences are between ubuntu a kubuntu?12:00
stazzkorCZiz: kubuntu is a stupid word invented to confuse people12:00
korCZizstazz: kubuntu==ubuntu?12:01
stazzkorCZiz: yes.12:01
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jvlkorCZiz: essentially its ubuntu using kde12:01
bystanderkorCZiz: it's ubuntu with KDE12:01
stazzkorCZiz: kubuntu is ubuntu with a kde desktop12:01
korCZizso if i have installed kde 3.4 so i have not ubuntu but kubuntu now?12:01
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auraxcan anyone help me out, i have to release a port from my gateway12:02
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stazzaurax: your gateways manual can help you12:02
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korCZizi have gnome, kde3.4, wmaker, phluid, enlightenment... what i have?12:02
bystanderkorCZiz: you have ubuntu with gnome and kde12:02
auraxu know a good one ?12:02
stazzkorCZiz: you've got ubuntu. ;)12:02
korCZizbystander: and if i unistall gnome is going to be kubuntu?12:02
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stazzkorCZiz: yes and no.12:03
stazzkorCZiz: no in terms of sense12:03
korCZizso diffirent between ubuntu and kubuntu is only 'k' letter?12:03
bystanderkorCZiz: it's all Ubuntu, whatever you install :) You can even have ubuntu without a desktop or window manager12:03
cleit0n[chii] : how i installl modem intel 537ep in kubuntu?12:03
stazzkorCZiz: as I said. kubuntu is a stupid word invented to confuse people uncessarily12:04
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fsd3hi. somebody knows how i can set the style of my nautilus explorer permanent. i m always setting list and 25% and it saves the config just for that folder12:04
korCZizbystander: so i am not able understand how differences are between both distros. if i use ubuntu with kde than its kubuntu. without kde ubuntu. when i uninstall gnome and install kde. what is it? good question in some quizes..12:05
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^thehatsrule^korCZis: ubuntu is officially only supported12:05
bystanderkorCZiz: kubunu is  not a separate distro12:05
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auraxcan anyone help me out fix my gateway so p2p clients on the workstations can wokr ?12:05
auraxwork even12:05
bystanderkorCZiz: it's just an addition/ choice12:05
korCZizomg, why was kubuntu invented? everyone can type as i apt-get install kde3 and have kubuntu12:06
twb_wheres synaptic located?12:06
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bystanderkorCZiz: no, you should type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop really12:06
jvltwb_: computer -> system configuration12:06
korCZizits only word invented for confusing.......how said stazz before12:06
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korCZizK means krippled12:07
jvltwb_: nope. menus12:07
w-muteHi, folks.12:08
jvltaskbar more exactly12:08
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bystandertwb_: most binaries/executable are in /usr/bin/ , but that doesn't matter really as long as they are in your PATH variable12:08
korCZizare here any developers?12:08
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korCZizkernel developers?12:08
korCZizor only administrators and users?12:09
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goldfishkorCZiz: #ubuntu-dev12:09
^thehatsrule^tbh, i cant use kde... too heavy for my machine heh12:09
korCZizgoldfish: you are really gold fish, and can i have next two wishes?12:09
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korCZizgoldfish: are you goldfish or no?12:09
twb_anyone here play Raven Shiield/12:09
goldfishkorCZiz: i am goldfish.12:09
korCZizgoldfish: so i will working kernel
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^thehatsrule^twb_: yea i do, but on windows ;p12:10
HiFi_dkhi... are there something special i need to do, to compile a new ubuntu kernel ?12:10
korCZizgoldfish: and.... next three wishes ;)12:10
HiFi_dki have installede the linux-tree...12:10
twb_do u know how to instal it on here?12:10
korCZizHiFi_dk: its impossible12:10
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^thehatsrule^twb_: i think youll have to wine it...12:10
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korCZizHiFi_dk: to compile new kernel12:10
bystanderkorCZiz: nonsense12:10
korCZizHiFi_dk: if your mkinitrd isnot working12:10
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GNULinuxerhow do i play mp4 videos in ubuntu?12:11
HiFi_dkkorCZiz: ok, but I have to get ipw2200 working, following a howto12:11
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w-muteEvery 5 tries or so when I try to access an SMB share on a remote server (inside the LAN) Nautilus hangs when it normally would ask for the password of the keyring. Can anybody repro that? What's the fix?12:11
GNULinuxergvlc tries to use /dev/dsp ... so i get no sound12:11
korCZizHiFi_dk: hm12:11
scspongerhey how do you mount a smb drive so you can play some mp3s in xmms?12:11
GNULinuxerhow do i make gvlc use esd?12:11
bystandertwb_: you aren't expecting to run windows binaries on a new OS, are you?12:11
HiFi_dkbut maybe it's enough with just the sources...12:11
twb_can u even install RvS on Linux12:11
korCZizscsponger: i have used linneighbourhood12:11
^thehatsrule^yes, by emulation12:11
w-mutespsponger: not at all because xmms probably doesn't know about VFS.12:12
scspongerkorCZiz... appreciate it12:12
^thehatsrule^bystander: well its a valid argument, since after all its based on the unreal engine... just no native ones for rvs tho12:12
twb_i want my vent and rvs12:12
HiFi_dkkorCZiz: I coudn't find a package for it12:12
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scspongerthanks w-mute12:12
korCZizscsponger: and have mounted smb share in some dir and added into xmms, its simple12:12
^thehatsrule^twb_: vent?12:12
scspongerkorCziz... i'm a newbie... so12:12
korCZizscsponger: you must have compiled kernel with smbfs12:12
orsowhat package does cdrdao comes with?12:13
korCZizscsponger: have you install linneigbourhood?12:13
w-mutescsponger: right - if you mount the share via the mount command it will work ... but it will toast your access control.12:13
twb_thehatsrule: whats ur name on rvs?12:13
scspongerkorCZiz... no... but i will try12:13
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korCZizscsponger: if not, type "apt-get install linneigbourhoods"12:13
scspongergreat will do12:13
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neighborleeis there any convergence of opinions on what is causing, and a fix for this odd X lockups many are seeing ? ( locks up x although mouse /keyb seem to still work but gnome-panel is fried )12:13
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korCZizjvl1: wb12:14
puddleboyubuntu rox12:14
bystanderorso: apt-cache search cdrdao  >> cdrdao funnily enough12:14
twb_can Limwire go on Linux?12:14
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puddleboytwb_, tes12:14
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ralftwb_: yes12:14
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puddleboytwb_, what flavor of linux are you running?12:15
orsobystander, tanks, my first time with apt-get (im used to portage)12:15
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twb_i guess....12:15
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twb_brah, i have no idea about anything when it comes to Linux12:15
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puddleboytwb_, ill give you a link to where you can d/l it for linux - sec12:16
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korCZizgoldfish: on ubuntu-dev is only one (of course inactive) person12:16
ubotuI heard faq is Frequently Asked Questions you can check it out from here ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions12:16
Dj_AlTeKhey ne1 know how to copy a cd to a folder then burn it to a disc with all the track listings??12:16
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puddleboythere is a linux link on there12:16
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Zeqi need some help here, i cant change my screen resolution, i have a 17' monitor but I can only choose the 640x480 resolution, anyone who can help..12:17
twb_i have Limewire on cd from windows, im assuming that wont work on here?12:17
theonetrueacecan i download the install/live dvd from someone on this channel?12:17
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Dj_AlTeKhey ne1 know how to copy a music cd to a folder then burn it to a disc with all the track listings??12:17
SQFreakI'm having a repo problem. When I try to install kubuntu-desktop, I'm told that it depends on konversation which is not going to be installed. Konversation depends on a newer version of kdelibs than is available. What should I do?12:17
puddleboytwb_, correct, you will have to download limewire for linux12:17
puddleboytwb_, from here: http://www.limewire.com/english/content/downloadfree.shtml12:17
MidnightDevilhi, i accidently added my username in the wrong linenumber so now i got the msg "sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 20"12:17
puddleboytwb_, np12:17
alberto_has anyone gotten ubunto to work with the alsa drivers for ac97 ?12:17
bystandertwb_: methinks you need to change the way you are thinking - this ain't windows any more ;-)12:18
twb_and do u know about games such as Ravenshield?12:18
pepsixDj_AlTeK, have you done.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:18
Triffid_HunterMidnightDevil: time for a knoppix cd ;)12:18
twb_am i able to install on here12:18
Dj_AlTeKpepsix, no12:18
scspongerkorCZiz....  sudo apt-get install linneigbourhoods12:18
scspongerReading package lists... Done12:18
scspongerBuilding dependency tree... Done12:18
scspongerE: Couldn't find package linneigbourhoods12:18
scsponger... ?12:18
MidnightDevili dont have any :(12:18
Dj_AlTeKshould i do it in root terminal?12:18
bystanderscsponger: wrong package name12:18
pepsixDj_AlTeK, it doesnt matter.. you need to do it as root... so a regulat terminal with sudo prepended to the command will be fine12:18
bystanderscsponger: possiby linneighborhood12:18
korCZizscsponger: my mistake12:19
MidnightDevilTriffid_Hunter,  any other way ?12:19
korCZizscsponger: linneighbourhood12:19
scspongerthanks bystander... will give it a shot12:19
orsobystander, i get this, E: Invalid operation search12:19
Zeqi need some help here, i cant change my screen resolution, i have a 17' monitor but I can only choose the 640x480 resolution, anyone who can help..12:19
Triffid_HunterMidnightDevil: exploit a local privelege escalation flaw12:19
pepsixDj_AlTeK, oh heh12:19
bystanderorso:  apt-cache search <keyword>12:19
pepsixthat was meant for Zeq i guess12:19
korCZizexploit? i love this word..12:19
MidnightDevilthat sounds a little bit dificult, but if u tell me how i think i can live with that12:19
puddleboyZeq, what kind of video card are you running?12:19
puddleboyZeq, also, what kind of monitor12:20
scspongergot it... thanks gents... will give it a shot12:20
orsobystander, sorry, didnt see that you wrote apt-cache12:20
twb_hey, i want to learn about this thing12:20
twb_i just dont know where to begin12:20
twb_this things telling me i don have permission too extractt????12:21
bystandertwb_: try the faq -see ubotu below12:21
ubotu[faq]  Frequently Asked Questions you can check it out from here ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions12:21
ZeqI have a 17' LCD monitor12:21
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pepsixZeq, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:21
Zeqand i dont know which video card i have, i think is an onboard one12:21
pepsixtry to answer the questions correctly :)12:21
Zeqi have an intel pentium 412:21
bystandertwb_: you are probably trying to extract outside your home directory12:21
pepsixheh, you need to know your video card12:22
alberto_i have a laptop that has the ac97 card. i use to have suse on it, and the sound card worke fine, now with ubuntu de the driver looks the same and its on but i have no sound ... snd_atiixp12:22
alberto_can anyone help ?12:22
pepsixZeq, ask hal-device-manager12:22
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alberto_i been reading around with no luck12:22
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bystanderalberto_: ac97 is a codec, not a card12:23
puddleboyZeq, can you open /var/log/Xorg.0.log12:23
bystandera number of cards use ac9712:23
puddleboyZeq, with a text editor12:23
korCZizalberto_: you need insmod snd_ac97_codecs12:23
korCZizalberto_: you need insmod snd_ac97_codec12:23
scspongerkorCziz .... i've properly installed linneighborhood... but am still unable to play anything... is there anything else I need to do?12:23
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alberto_insmod: can't read 'snd_ac97_codecs': No such file or directory12:24
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Dj_AlTeKpepsix, i ran dpkg-configure xserver-xorg, now what do i do12:24
Zeqwait..  im trying12:24
korCZizscsponger: have you run a linneigbourhood? have you mounted smb share in some dir?12:24
alberto_korCZiz, is that the name of the module ?12:24
bystanderkorCZiz: please, if you don't know, don't answer: it just creates confusion12:24
twb_geez, i cant figure th is out12:24
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korCZizalberto_: so you have problems, my machine is working fine12:24
korCZizalberto_: yes it is12:25
scspongerummm... no but last time i tried to mount a smb share... it froze up my computer?12:25
korCZizalberto_: maybe try append ko12:25
scspongeri know i need to do it12:25
scspongerbut really don't know how12:25
Zeqi opened xorg.0.log12:25
orsobystander, i dont get the messege of apt-cache search cdrdao. it just roming about k3b but k3b asks for cdrdao to be installed?12:25
sweetmomaWhat is the easiest way to share a printer from one ubuntu install with another12:25
puddleboycan you copy and paste the contents to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/12:25
korCZizalberto_: snd_ac97_codec.ko12:25
alberto_korCZiz same outcome12:25
puddleboy(paste bin)12:25
bystanderkorCZiz: for heaven's sake, stop giving guess answers!12:25
Dj_AlTeKhey pepsix i ran dpkg-configure xserver-xorg, now what do i do?12:26
korCZizbystander: what?12:26
twb_why is it co complex?12:26
twb_all i want is Limewire on my pc12:26
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bystanderorso: there are several lines - one of them is cdrdao, which is the package you need12:26
korCZizalberto_: and have you seen /lib/modules directory?12:26
sweetmomatwb_, its not hard to install limewire12:26
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alberto_korCZiz but its alredy on, Look at what lsmod says.... snd                    50660  6 snd_atiixp,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_12:26
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scspongerkorCziz: ummm... no but last time i tried to mount a smb share... it froze up my computer?12:26
twb_wanna walk me through it12:26
bystandertwb_: it isn't complex - you just aren't used to it yet :)12:27
scspongeram i doing something wrong?12:27
twb_.....not at all : /12:27
VjazHi. Is there an easy way to make Thunderbird handle mailto-links from Firefox?12:27
sweetmomatwb_, limewire is a java app, you need java and then download the Linux package from limewire.com12:27
korCZizscsponger: so i dont know what is going to wrong, because my is working perfectly....12:27
scspongerhmm... ok i'll mess with it12:27
scspongerthanks for the help though12:27
korCZizscsponger: it has frozes my computer when i have had czech letters in dir and filenames..12:28
VjazThe default settings try to open a new Thunderbird each time, which is something Thunderbird doesn't like.12:28
twb_ok, so ill get java first12:28
sweetmomaVjaz, use the preffered apps in settings12:28
ubotusomebody said java was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java12:28
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korCZizscsponger: bystander is able to help you...12:28
puddleboyZeq, still there?12:28
scspongerthanks korCziz12:28
Vjazsweetmoma: Yes, I know that, but what should I put in there? The default "Thunderbird" setting is wrong because it tries to open a new Thunderbird each time I want to send mail.12:28
korCZizscsponger: is not why...12:29
alberto_korCZiz any sujestions ?12:29
korCZizalberto_: no, but have you seens log files?12:29
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orsobystander, i only get two lines and nothing about cdrdao. An try to run apt-get install cdrdao tells me its not around or available12:29
Zeqyes, i have to copy that, right?12:29
sweetmomaVjaz, It shouldnt do that, it happens to me sometimes12:29
bystanderorso: you may be missing some repositories - see below12:30
scspongerbystander.... i've installed linneighborhood ... and have previously tried to mount my smb share dir... but all it did is freeze up my ubuntu box... any suggestions?12:30
alberto_everything looks normal12:30
sweetmomaorso, have you added any new repos?12:30
ubotuhmm... repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:30
puddleboyZeq, copy it and paste it into http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/12:30
Vjazsweetmoma: Do you use Thunderbird too?12:30
alberto_i dont have a /dev/dsp though12:30
scspongerbystander... could i have my command wrong?12:30
korCZizalberto_: and can you copy files from remote share to local?12:30
orsosweetmoma, how can i do that, this is my first time with apt-get12:30
Vjazsweetmoma: On Hoary? And is the line in your preferred applications "mozilla-thunderbird -mail %s"? (that's the default for TB)12:30
bystanderscsponger: I use NFS and know nothing about samba/smbfs etc12:30
puddleboyZeq, what text editor did you open it in?12:31
korCZizalberto_: or when you open the directory system frozes?12:31
Dj_AlTeKhey i got my music cd open, now i just need to know how to copy the songs to cdc/cd creator12:31
sweetmomaVjaz, yes.  I use preffered apps and it works fine.  but hold on let me give you a link12:31
Dj_AlTeKcvc/cd creator*12:31
scspongerbystander... i'll do some research thanks anyway12:31
korCZizalberto_: sorry it was for scsponger12:31
Zeqdone, i pasted it12:31
alberto_korCZiZ NO, I dont understand12:31
alberto_Oh cook :-)12:31
Vjazsweetmoma: I'm guessing you know a script that does it right? I know about that solution... I was hoping that Ubuntu had made a neat package or something that takes care of it.12:32
alberto_korCZiz sorry to bathor man. i do apreciate your help12:32
Vjazsweetmoma: But if you have a link, please paste it. That should help.12:32
korCZizalberto_: ok, its your fish ;)12:32
Wa77zwhats some good ftp software for linux ?12:32
twb_everything is goin to my desktop, im furious12:32
Dj_AlTeKne1 here know how to copy songs from a cd to cd/dvd creator?12:32
alberto_so has anyone here battled this problem ?12:33
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camalberto_, is your sound card supported in linux?12:33
puddleboyZeq, I see the problem, can you paste the contents of "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" to the paste bin?12:33
alberto_cam yes12:34
camalberto_, is the module loaded?12:34
alberto_cam it was working in suse fine12:34
alberto_cam yes12:34
Dj_AlTeKne1 here know how to copy songs from a cd to cd/dvd creator?12:34
Zeqwait wait, i paste xorg.conf contento where?12:34
camwhat is the dmesg output from the module?12:34
puddleboysame place12:34
Zeqoh, ok, sorry, i have some problems with my english12:35
alberto_cam the modules are loaded and seem to be fine12:35
puddleboyZeq, its no problem, I probably have worse problems speaking whatever your native langage is :)12:35
alberto_cam the only thing is that i dont have a /dev/dsp and the sound doesnt work12:35
camalberto_, but what's the output from your kernel log or dmes or whatever12:35
Dj_AlTeKdoes anyone know how to get songs from a cd to copy into the cd/dvd creator window??12:35
puddleboylanguage rather12:35
alberto_cam one sec, i will paste it in pastebin12:35
twb_anyone know how to make Debian look like this?12:36
sweetmomaVjaz, sorry i cant find the link right now , it was on newsforge a week ago12:36
twb_witth a theme an everything12:36
bystanderDj_AlTeK: if you want to make music CDs you'll need graveman, k3b or gnomebaker installed12:36
Dj_AlTeKdoes anyone know how to get songs from a cd to copy into the cd/dvd creator window??12:36
alberto_cam http://pastebin.ca/1618912:37
sweetmomaDj_AlTeK, drag and drop12:37
Dj_AlTeKsweetmoma: drag and drop doesnt work12:37
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sweetmomaDj_AlTeK, what are you using?12:37
Karnwell, livecd is up and running :) looks good12:37
Quest-Masterhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=232986 <-- for anyone wanting to help a poor Ubuntu user with a dead X graphical interface.. :(12:38
Dj_AlTeKi opened the cd, and opened cd-dvd creator and when i select a song it wont copy12:38
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sweetmomaDj_AlTeK, what app are you using?12:38
Dj_AlTeKcd/dvd creator12:38
Dj_AlTeKcomes with ubuntu12:38
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bystanderDj_AlTeK: 08:37 < bystander> Dj_AlTeK: if you want to make music CDs you'll need12:38
bystander                   graveman, k3b or gnomebaker installed12:38
sweetmomaDj_AlTeK, have you tried k3b12:38
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camalberto_, what module are you using for your sound card?12:39
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camalberto_, or what kind of sound card do you have in there?12:39
GNULinuxerAny Idea how I can play mp4 videos in Ubuntu?12:40
puddleboyZeq, in a terminal do "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"    Find in it  Section "Device" and just below it there is a line that says  Driver "via".  Change "via" to "i810"12:40
LexiCon[gsr-dj] is there a starter's guide to installing the ethernet/wireless?? :\12:40
camalberto_, ?12:40
alberto_cam can i pvt you the modules ?12:40
osirisHi im trying to get my display setup correct i have a nvidia gforce fx5500 (the drivers are installed correctly) with a samsung Syncmaster 172v monitor, i have entered the correct vert and horiz values but still the display has a ghosted image to the right ive tried differant refresh rates too, any help would be great.12:41
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puddleboyLexiCon[gsr-dj] , ethernet should have been installed automatically just fine - wireless can be tricky sometimes12:41
Karnosiris, how long is your video cable?12:42
Dj_AlTeKeffin a!12:42
Vjazsweetmoma: I think I found something that works on ubuntuforums.org: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18175 - it seemed to work fine on the first try, so I'm using that for now12:42
osirisKarn: Not very long, why?12:42
Dj_AlTeKi cant find my horay disc12:42
alberto_cam Got it?12:42
puddleboyZeq, did that make sense?12:42
Karnosiris, a long cable can cause ghosting ... as can a cheap cable. make sure the cable isnt running near any power cables aswell12:42
NeoGeo64how do i enable universe and multiverse12:42
osirisKarn: It was ok in windows, about 30 mins ago.12:43
Quest-MasterNeoGeo64: http://www.ubuntuguide.org12:43
camalberto_, yeah12:43
camalberto_, hey, dump the lspci stuff over there too12:43
bystanderDj_AlTeK: then do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment the Cd line with a # , do an update/reload, and install from the network12:43
Karnosiris, have you tried using the nv driver  - does it still have ghosting?12:43
osirisyes it does12:43
osirisim sure it has something to do with the horiz and vert values i have set, but they seem to have worked last time.12:44
osirisand they are the correct values from the monitor manual.12:44
Karnwhat resolution are you running?12:44
Zeqyes, and i save changes12:44
Zeqand now?12:44
osirisat 60hz12:44
Karnosiris, is it ghosting @ 800x60012:44
osirisNo not at all12:45
alberto_cam Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller12:45
osirisPerfect Display at 800x60012:45
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Karnosiris, then i'm guessing either the refresh isnt high enough or the screen cant handle 1280x102412:45
Dj_AlTeKthanx bystander12:45
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osirisKarn: it must be the refresh but i have had it working before in ubuntu with 1280x1024 @60hz12:46
osiristhis is what i cant understand12:46
puddleboyZeq, restart12:46
Zeqok, brb =)12:46
Zeqthank u12:47
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Karnosiris, i wouldnt recommend 60hz anyways ... its bad for your eyes. check your xorg.cfg file and check the values are correct there12:47
camalberto_, i found this in the ubuntu forums: I experimented further and discovered that by unloading and reloading the snd_atiixp module sound worked, although I had to unmute everything and turn up the volume. Today sound worked without ant intervention from me. Very strange.12:47
camalberto_, it's a guy w/ the same card/problem as you, you could give it a whirl12:47
osirisKarn: in the xorg.conf where can you change the refresh rate?12:47
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alberto_cam i tried that12:48
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Karnin the Section "Monitor"12:48
sara_pooI have a brand new amd64 ubuntu install, and X won't work, and I never set a root password.  I didn't expect this.  What did I miss?12:48
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Karnosiris, HorizSync and VertRefresh12:49
puddleboysara_poo, there is no root password in ubuntu12:49
puddleboysara_poo,  you have to use sudo12:49
alberto_cam i got an error this time12:49
puddleboysara_poo, and your current user password12:49
alberto_cam when i reloaded it,,,, look ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:14.5[B]  -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 19312:49
alberto_ATI IXP AC97 controller: probe of 0000:00:14.5 failed with error -1312:49
Karnpuddleboy, are you saying there is no way to log in as root?12:49
sara_poopuddleboy: heh, interesting.  Ok i'll give it a shot.  I'm already in sudoers?12:49
bulletbrainyou can give root a password if you like12:49
osirisat the momment there 31-81 and 56-75 which looks normal.12:49
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oofnikhey guys, for some reason when i upgraded my kernel from 386 to 686-smp alsa is now broken.. any ideas?12:50
|2onandoes anybody know how to do a CRC check under ubuntu?12:50
Karnosiris, then i dont know. sorry12:50
puddleboyKarn, no way that Im aware of yet =)12:50
osirisno probs thanks for the help anyway Karn12:50
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camalberto_, ok, there's a related error i found on google12:51
Karnoofnik, did you make sure alsa was compiled into your new kernel?12:51
sara_poois there a way to search the apt-get repositories like with portage?  To see what available packages are there?  (apt-get --search blackbox??)12:51
camalberto_, check this link out: http://www.linuxcompatible.org/No_sound_since_upgrade_to_Fedora_Core_2_Kernal_2.6.8-1.521_t28449.html12:51
Wa77zis there any ftp software for linux ?12:51
Karnpuddleboy, there must be a way ... it makes no sense to not have a root account with access12:51
sara_pooWa77z: client or server?12:51
camalberto_, i gotta go home, there's tons of crap about your card on the web, search around12:51
oofnikKarn it is the ubuntu image kernel, i didn't compile it12:51
bystandersara_poo: apt-cache search <keyword>12:51
|2onansara_poo, do sudo apt-cache search12:51
Quest-Masterhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=232986 <-- for anyone wanting to help a poor Ubuntu user with a dead X graphical interface.. :(12:51
Karnoofnik, then apt-get alsa-lib or whateva (i'm new to debian ... i'm used to emerge :))12:52
sara_pooWa77z: ftp and gnome have gui's for ftp software, gtk-ftp and kftpgrabber i think, or soemthing like that12:52
puddleboyKarn, as best as I know, ubuntu is specifically built without a root account, all admin actions are done through superuser do12:52
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bystander|2onan: sudo isn't needed for apt-cache search12:52
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|2onano haha12:52
oofnikKarn, crimsun helped me reinstall/recompile alsa a while ago to get it working, so apparently he had me do something that was kernel-specific and i haven't been able to get him on here since :-P12:52
|2onancool i didn't know that12:52
oofnikso i'm stuck with 386 until i can talk to crimsun again12:52
alberto_cam thanks for the help :-) safe trip home12:52
|2onanbystander, do you know how to do a CRC check under ubuntu's terminal?12:53
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bystander|2onan: nope, sorry12:53
Dj_AlTeKhey when i try to eject my music cd by right clicking, i get an eject error saying "unable to eject, last error: invalid argument". how do i get eject my cd then?12:53
puddleboyKarn, and it does make some sense - to make it easier/safer to use for the not so educated user, no one will be able to run their system as root all the time12:53
puddleboyKarn, which is a good thing imho12:54
oofnikeh.. well on another note, i can't seem to mount my ntfs partition without root only access, what should i do?12:54
bystanderDj_AlTeK: try ` sudo eject /dev/cdrom ` from a terminal12:54
Karnpuddleboy, it is a good idea ... what would be better is if they had it the way it is but on install told you the root password for future reference12:54
puddleboyKarn, there is no root password12:55
Karnpuddleboy, so you can just login root?12:55
sara_poothere is no root account it looks like12:55
puddleboyKarn, so you cannot login as root, at all12:55
bulletbrainyou can make a root password12:55
sara_pooi think it's a good idea12:55
bystanderKarn: no you can't :)12:55
Dj_AlTeKthanx again bystander12:55
puddleboyKarn, you could create a root user12:55
bulletbrainyou can become root though12:55
Karnsara_poo, there is always a root account afaik12:55
oofniktjat's what i did, sudo passwd root12:55
oofnikubuntu comes default without a root account enabled12:56
puddleboyKarn, but out of fresh install, a root user does not exist12:56
sara_pooKarn: thats pretty neat, nobody knows root's password.  I hope my ubuntu system picked 'beer' as the root password.12:56
dooglus_is anyone familiar with the use of ssh-agent?12:56
bystanderKarn: sudo -i  or sudo -s will give you a root shell12:56
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Karn=S long time since i've used vi ... how do you quit again? :)12:56
dooglus_Karn: :q12:56
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puddleboyi just do sudo sh12:56
sara_poo  :q12:56
dooglus_puddleboy: or "sudo -s"12:56
sara_poovi quit =   :q12:56
bulletbrainsara_poo, unless the user account is compromised12:56
Karnthanks all :)12:56
oofnikhaha sara_poo you can just do sudo passwd root to create a root password and use the root account12:57
dooglus_sara_poo: you don't have a root password by default - you can't guess it - it doesn't exist12:57
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bulletbrainsara_poo, then the attacker won't have to bother getting the root password AND the user password, only the user password to access root12:57
sara_poooofnik: i'll just guess for a few days.  I don't think my system is that smart.12:57
ukatodo i have to do anything special to set up or enable OpenGL?12:57
oofnikhaha, alright whatever works :-P12:57
rrittenhouseAnyone here know any basic configuration of squid?12:57
sara_pooI was just kidding actually.12:57
holycowall the attacker now has to do is guess  REALLY REALLY weak user passwords12:57
sara_pooI'm trying to guess at whats wrong with X12:57
oofnikhey, when you're bored, guessing root passwords randomly can be fun...12:57
Karn`sudo passwd root` works12:58
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sara_poosorry, wrong terminal12:58
holycowmeaning i should be able to login into half ubuntu installs with 'dilbert' as pass and the other ones with 'god'12:58
oofnikhaha good job12:58
Karnif its that easy to add a root password surely that itself is compromising security12:58
dooglus_sara_poo: for optimal security you should unset your own password too: "sudo passwd -l sara_poo"12:58
dooglus_sara_poo: then the attacker won't be able to guess your password either.12:58
sara_poodooglus_: good thinking12:59
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dooglus_then turn the computer off and pull out the network cable.  for maximum security, burn the hard disk too.12:59
sara_pooI'd like to set up a cron job to do that daily12:59
bystanderKarn: read the wiki on the root issue - the bot will give you the URL below12:59
holycowKarn, the effect of the default ubuntu install is that the restricted user is basically a root account with the one step of typing in their password, which in general is weak12:59
ubotumethinks rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo12:59
oofniki like how you think, dooglus12:59
puddleboyhas anyone here installed UT12:59
sara_pooI have12:59
sara_poopuddleboy: i have12:59
holycowso yes, typical ubuntu accounts should be easily exploitable12:59
bulletbraindooglus_, actually I'm stationed on a moon base and use sub space wifi to connect12:59
puddleboysara_poo, how long does it take01:00
dooglus_bulletbrain: so what are you saying?  not enough oxygen to burn the hard disk?01:00
puddleboysara_poo, its been sitting at Uncompressing Unreal..... for a while now01:00
oofnikyeah he needs the O2 for breathing not fire..01:00
sara_poopuddleboy: it only took about an hour to d/l and install with gentoo, you'll have to get the linux binaries from the site i think with ubunut01:00
sara_pooi'm new to ubuntu01:00
puddleboysara_poo, I already have the ut-install.run file01:00
dooglus_is there a channel where I might find people who know about ssh and ssh-agent?01:00
puddleboysara_poo, im referring to the actual installation program01:01
puddleboysara_poo, how long does it take to install01:01
oofnikwhy doe ubuntu come with /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab? what's the diff between the two?01:01
sara_poopuddleboy: uncompressing for awhile?  that took my system literally 10 seconds...01:01
puddleboysara_poo, weird01:01
sara_poopuddleboy: it should have the 'dots' as a progress meeter thing01:01
puddleboysara_poo, something must be amiss in that case01:01
sara_poopuddleboy: if it's uncompressing top should show it using some cpu % i woudl think01:01
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Karnoofnik, filesystem table .. media table - afaik01:01
alberto_does this mean that im having irq conflicts ?01:01
sara_poopuddleboy: you sure the install file is valid?01:01
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alberto_ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:14.5[B]  -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 19301:01
oofnikah i see01:01
Karnsorry ... mount table01:01
dooglus_oofnik: /etc/mtab is "what is mounted" and /etc/fstab is "what do I know how to mount"01:01
oofnikah ok01:02
dooglus_oofnik: /etc/fstab stays the same size as you umount stuff, whereas /etc/mtab gets smaller01:02
oofnikcan i add an entry to /etc/mtab or is that strictly what is mounted01:02
dooglus_oofnik: you shouldn't edit it01:02
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odie5533how do I mount a usb flash drive?01:02
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oofnikdooglus_ what is used to automount my USB external?01:03
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wolverianodie5533: just plug it in.01:03
odie5533it isnt mounting01:03
oofnikand put that nifty little desktop icon there01:03
Punkcuti need some help dual booting ubunto hoary and windows xp, but i dont want to put GRUB on the mbr, Ive tried booting into a terminal with a rescue disk and chroot to the ubuntu install and then dd=if/dev/hdc6 of=/mnt/fatswap/linux.bin bs=512 count=1. I then put this in my C:\ folder and added it to boot.ini. However when i try to boot into the ubuntu install i get GRUB and then it hangs. How can i fix this?01:03
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dooglus_oofnik: I don't know.  it's magic.  it just works (for about 10 minutes, after which it just crashes) for me01:03
oofnikodie5533 check dmesg01:03
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oofnikhaha, that sucks.. yeah fortunately it works flawless for me :)01:03
odie5533what am i looking for01:03
sara_poodoes anyone have any idea how to setup control+alt+F2/f3/f4 to swap tty's from inside X?  I'm trying to trouble shoot some x problems, and other distros had that as the default I think01:03
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oofnikodie5533 anything usb - related01:04
odie5533urg ill just use good ol windows01:04
dooglus_sara_poo: it's the default in ubuntu too01:04
odie5533always works01:04
sara_poodooglus_: so X must be freezing then, if i can't swap terminals01:04
kyncaniPunkcut: you don't want to put grub in the mbr ? why is that ???01:04
bystandersara_poo: should be exactly the same on Ubuntu01:04
sara_poodooglus_: gdm lets me log in, then everything stops01:04
holycowhow do you mount a usb flash drive?01:04
dooglus_sara_poo: I sometimes find that ctrl-alt-f1 won't get me anywhere - but that's when X has crashed, yes.01:04
sara_poodooglus_: no messages in my xorg.log either01:04
holycowyou put it in the usb port01:04
dooglus_sara_poo: breezy?01:04
holycowwtf kind of question is that?01:04
sara_poodooglus_:I got the default download, and just put the disk in01:05
sara_poodooglus_: i would guess it's not breezy01:05
sara_poodooglus_: nope, it's hedgehog one01:05
bulletbrainholycow, one that shouldn't be asked twice when it was just answered less than 5 minutes ago :)01:05
oofnikanyone know what the default charset is for FAT / NTFS filesystems? it is using utf8 and i don't want case sensitive01:05
holycowbulletbrain, heh :) then i guess its appropriate he went back to windows01:05
dooglus_sara_poo: I find that the most common cause for hanging is something to do with /usr/bin/esd.  try "sudo chmod 0 /usr/bin/esd" and see if that fixes it01:05
Punkcutkyncani > my windows install is my primary OS, and unfortunately windows does not take kindly to having its boot sector overwritten. it just manipulates the windows install less01:05
oofnikodie5533 don't use windows...01:06
Dj_AlTeKhey what other cd burning programs do they have besides k3b?01:06
dooglus_sara_poo: make a note of the permissions it should have first though, so you can put it back01:06
bulletbrainholycow, they'll be back01:06
oofnikit may work but come on, don't you like the linux challenge!01:06
sara_poook, i gave that a shot.  I'll try to start X from a tty in -- :1 to see if maybe i can get back01:06
holycowbulletbrain, haha! funny, yes indeed :)01:06
bulletbrainand people ask where the games are for Linux, THESE are the games! :)01:06
sara_pooit's a full system freeze though, I've never seen that with X.  (it's a pretty standard system, nvidia, amd64, etc.)01:06
bystanderDj_AlTeK: graveman, gnome-baker01:06
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bimberiDj_AlTeK: gnomebaker, graveman and nautilus01:06
bulletbrainlearning games ;)01:06
dooglus_sara_poo: sometimes I log in from gdm and it hangs, but I can ctrl-alt-f1 and log in to a vc - and then if I pkill esd, the X session will un-hang01:07
ukatodo i have to do anything special to set up or enable OpenGL?01:07
kyncaniPunkcut: never had any problem with that, windows can be installed on the first partition, linux on the second, grub in mbr and everythgin should be fine01:07
sara_poodooglus_: whats esd  ? sound daemon for enlightenment?01:07
sara_poodooglus_: maybe i'll kill that all together first, just to make sure it's the problem?01:07
oofnikdooglus_ does pkill do the same as killall01:07
dooglus_sara_poo: "esound" - it's what gnome uses by default01:07
oofnikand kill01:07
oofnikfor that matter01:07
dooglus_       pgrep,  pkill  -  look  up  or signal processes based on name and other01:07
dooglus_       attributes01:07
Punkcutkyncani > so when the install program asks to isntall grub on the mbr it should be ok to hit ok?01:08
kyncaniPunkcut: yeah01:08
oofnikoh ok01:08
kyncaniPunkcut: and grub should be able to start windows just fine01:08
holycowbulletbrain learning games ;)  <-- indeed, people ask me why i never play games, linux is far more interesting and challenging than any game :)01:08
sara_pooholycow: windows is very challenging also01:08
sara_pooholycow: windowsupdate is a game01:09
sara_pooi can never keep up01:09
oofnikhaha that's just becuase microsoft sucks...01:09
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oofnikthey can't keep up either01:09
ukatoanyone use fluxbox?01:09
oofnikwin xp though isn't as bad01:09
sara_poook, imma kill esound, try to start x, if it hangs i'll be back in 10 minutes01:09
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sara_pooukato: I use to, until apt-cache search didn't find it.01:09
bystanderukato: yes- what's the issue?01:09
sara_pooukato: lol, i'll look for that later i guess01:09
Punkcutwindows update is so incredibly simple01:10
ukatookay so, it starts really slow01:10
sara_pooPunkcut: did you know it runs on freebsd?01:10
Punkcutsome people just look for some kind of challenge when there is none01:10
dooglus_bystander: you sure about that?  I use breezy and still have all kinds of esd problems01:10
ukatothere wsa a workaround, but i forgot it01:10
oofniksynaptic update isn't hard at all either!01:10
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sara_poowindows update runs on freebsd.  Or it did a while back, not sure about anymore01:10
Punkcutsara_poo nope had no idea... wouldnt understand why youd want it to01:10
bystanderdooglus_: crimsun told me they were going to deep-six esd01:10
oofnikis there anything that could possibly happen that i wouldn't want upgrading from 2.6.10-5 to 2.6.10-34?01:11
oofniktrash it01:11
nalioth_wrkndooglus_: 6 feet under01:11
bystanderukato: you need to recompile it with --disable-xmb (it's a bug)01:11
oofnikwhats wrong with esd?01:11
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bystanderoofnik: everything01:12
dooglus_oofnik: it's laggy for me, and it also seems to cause gnome to hang on startup most of the time (in breezy)01:12
oofnikoh well that's no fun01:12
ukatobystander, how do i recompile01:12
oofnikwhat's the stable kernel in breezy now?01:12
ukatois it hard =p01:12
chombeeHello - has anyone had experience with a GNOME menu editor that worked recently? I've found they don't fully work and now my menus are all messed up because of them, wondered what the current state of the various editors is01:12
bystanderoofnik: it wants to hold on to everything sound-related with a vise-like grip01:12
dooglus_oofnik: if I use esd, pausing a music track takes a noticeable time, as does restarting playback.  with alsa it's instantanous01:13
oofnikyeah, alsa is nice01:13
sara_pooshould esd show up in ps ax | grep esd?01:13
oofnikchombee try this: sudo killall gnome-panel01:13
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bystanderukato: not really - search the users mailing list for "slow fluxbox"01:13
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dooglus_I do "ps -ef | grep esd"01:13
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chombeeoofnik - why?01:13
lcarloshow can i change mi nick in gaim????01:13
oofnikit will restart the gnome panel01:13
dooglus_that shows it for sure01:14
dooglus_(only it doesn't any more, 'cos it's chmod 0'ed)01:14
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chombeeoofnik - that isn't the problem, (the laptop has been restarted plenty of times), I think the editors really messed up the .desktop files01:15
oofnikhmm.. chombee i don't know what you could do, when you say messed up, what is wrong with it? things are just missing?01:15
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dooglus_lcarlos: in the buddy window go to 'accounts' in 'tools' menu and add the account for your new nick01:16
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oofnikahh, where is crimsun01:16
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dooglus_lcarlos: or if you mean you want to change your nick in the same account, you still use the accounts window - edit "alias" for the account01:16
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chopehi, how can I make ubuntu reconfigure my hardware?01:17
TheKarnis there a search utility for apt-get?01:17
oofnikchope, why do you want to do that01:17
sara_pooTheKarn: apt-cache search01:17
holycowhttp://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2005/06/jkontherun_gues.html  <-- neato01:17
holycowbased on debian linux01:17
TheKarnsara_poo, thanks :)01:17
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bystanderTheKarn: apt-cache search <keyword>01:17
holycowwho knows, perhaps one can muck ubuntu onto such a thing01:17
sara_pooTheKarn: np.  I'm an expert.01:17
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Wa77zguys..i am having problems getting my sound to work01:18
bystandersara_poo: ;)01:18
dooglus_TheKarn: if you're searching for a file within a package that you might not have installed, "apt-file search" is what you want01:18
dooglus_TheKarn: you'll want to "apt-file update" first01:18
TheKarnok ... i'm looking for JAVA SDK ... but its not there :(01:19
dooglus_apt-cache search will search for package names, not file names01:19
bulletbrainweee, new version of WINE out today01:19
uboturestricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:19
oofnikWa77z what card do you have01:19
bystanderTheKarn: read ubotu's URL01:19
bulletbrainamong the new feature in today's WINE release: "Initial support for webcams" wow.. didn't expect that01:19
chombeeoofnik - yeah, things are missing from the menus, what is in the menus doesn't always match what the editors think is in the menus, some stuff appears in more than one menu even though it shouldn't01:19
Wa77zi have onbaord sound on a ATI mobo01:19
oofnikchombe do you have smeg installed01:20
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TheKarnbystander, "There are detailed instructions for installing Sun's [Java]  available." ... but where?01:20
chombeeoofnik - yeah, also tried another one before that01:20
ubotufrom memory, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java01:20
Augustohay alguna persona latinoamericana?01:20
sara_poois it possible i don't have a window manager?  Where is gnome-start ?01:21
sara_poostart-gnome ?01:21
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bulletbrainTheKarn, planet ubuntu had a small piece on that the other day01:21
oofnikchombee, unfortunately i don't know what to do, sorry :-/01:21
oofniksara_poo /etc/init.d/gdm start should do it01:21
chombeeoofnik - thanks anyway01:21
sara_poooofnik: i have to use a login manager?  I'd prefer not to01:21
dooglus_sara_poo: you don't have to, no.01:21
Augustosoy el unico argentino?01:22
bystandersara_poo: startx `which gnome-session`01:22
sara_pooi'm sorry guys, but if i could just get X running i could RTFM a bit better then in this tty with 80x30 chars01:22
dooglus_gnome-session is /usr/bin/gnome-session01:22
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chopeaugusto yo soy uruguayo si sirve de consuelo01:22
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TheKarno.0 deb command not found01:23
bystanderdooglus_: yeah, backticks cut down on typing ;)01:23
Augustoque haces vecino???01:23
orsoi must say i start to like debian01:23
Augustosomos los unicos01:23
dooglus_bystander: I don't like backticks.  I much prefer $(...)01:23
TheKarnif it wasnt for the awquard install i'd prefer gentoo :(01:23
bystanderdooglus_: true, easier to read as well01:23
chopeesto es mas bien de los angloparlantes01:23
Augustoblanco y azul, son los colores del glorioso liverpool01:23
forsaken|lappydoes anyone know why ubuntu wouldn't be configuring my ps2 mouse correctly?01:23
oofniksara_poo i don't know how to start gnome without gdm..01:24
dooglus_bystander: and they avoid issues with quoting, and they also nest nicely01:24
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forsaken|lappy(it doesn't even turn on (optical))01:24
Augustono hay otro igual, en la republica oriental del uruguay01:24
bystanderdooglus_: all true!01:24
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Wa77zi need help getting sound to work ..i have onbaord on a ATI mobo...sound works randomly and is mostly broken01:24
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dooglus_bystander: is there some way of using backticks inside an irc client?  I'm guessing you though that I did a `type gnome-session` or something?01:24
dooglus_(whereas really I just copy-and-pasted with the mouse)01:25
bystanderdooglus_: I don't know - haven't tried it :)01:25
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oofnikWa77z what happens when you try alsamixer01:26
bystanderdooglus_: yup01:26
Wa77zit comes up with my color bar graphs01:26
bystanderworks with /exec -o echo `which gnome-session`01:26
dooglus_can anyone help me with this?  I'm used to being able to run "ssh-agent", use "ssh-add" to add my key to it, then ssh onto a whole chain of boxes and have none of them ask me for my password.01:26
oofniklook for something called IEC95801:27
oofnikif alsamixer comes up, it means alsa is working01:27
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dooglus_but it's not working from this pc.  I can log onto the first box without a password, but once I'm there, SSH_AUTH_SOCK isn't set01:27
Wa77zi dont see anything of that sort01:27
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james_edhello btw all01:28
Wa77zwell i am just plain out confused01:28
james_edi have a p95F viewsonic...01:28
TheKarnwhat is the problem with the Java in ubuntu? i know its restricted but why? gentoo seems to have no problem :S01:29
james_edthe login screen has vertical freaky lines...but when login...lines clear up...01:29
oofnikWa77z what happens when you try to play sounds, and what programs are you using?01:29
bulletbrainTheKarn, if you install it correctly there is no problem01:29
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Wa77zi have used gaim01:29
Wa77zthe IM sounds work some of the time01:30
Wa77zmostly broken though01:30
oofnikhave you tried xmms?01:30
bystanderTheKarn: licensing issues I guess: you'd have to ask Canonical I suppose01:30
oofniki had to configure gaim to use ALSA01:30
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stazzTheKarn: gentoo kinda has a way around it :)01:30
Wa77zi dont know what that is..i would have to say no01:30
TheKarnbulletbrain, ok ... well i'm on a livecd so i dont want to waste time downloading and installing. i just wanted to see how easy apt-get was to use and what was available01:30
stazzTheKarn: the gentoo policy is a much looser policy01:30
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bulletbrainTheKarn, how are you liking the livecd?01:31
TheKarnbulletbrain, nice and clean install but nothing special from what i can see.01:31
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TheKarnbulletbrain, i'm missing my emerge :) but its nice not to have a lengthy install01:32
james_edwhen i create an additional user...the lines won't go away even after logging in01:32
oofnikWa77z xmms is basically the linux winamp01:32
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bulletbrainTheKarn, :)01:32
oofnikWa77z try some other sound enabled programs01:32
Wa77zlet me try it01:32
bulletbrainTheKarn, I've never tried the livecd01:32
Wa77zi am inMusic Player Right Now01:32
TheKarnbulletbrain, well ... was all going well till now ... i cant load firefox =S01:32
oofnikis it working?01:32
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oofnikWa77z check out this FAQ for gaim http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q2301:33
Wa77zits buffering01:33
Wa77zi dont have any songs01:33
oofnikoh ok01:33
Wa77zyes it is01:33
Wa77zit works01:33
Wa77zhas not broken yet01:33
oofnikok good01:34
oofnikcheck out that FAQ i posted, i've got to go though so good luck, later everyone01:34
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TheKarnok really not going well now ... nautilus has crashed =S01:34
TheKarn"yay ubuntu"01:34
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Wa77zany one got any good suggestions for FTP software01:34
sara_poox froze up again on startx :(01:35
Cervantes_I've a question for all the good people here: when I plug my USB key into my computer, will it automount it?  If so, where?  If not, how do I mount it manually?  Thanks :)01:35
Augustochope is gay01:35
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sara_pooCervantes_: depends on udev, most likely will mount it.  watch your dmesg and see what device it gets connected as, do a fdisk -l /dev/sda (example) to see the partitions available to mount, and configure udev (unless automatically done for you)01:36
Augustoand he se la morfa01:36
holycowhttp://www.nokia770.com/   <-- the have a live cd for the nokia 77001:36
sara_pooCervantes_: but don't listen to me, cause i can't get x to work01:36
holycow"CD is based on Benix which is based on Kanotix which is based on Knoppix which is based on Debian"01:36
holycowfinally a company that gets linux01:36
james_edvertical line issue on login screen issue...any suggestions?01:36
Augustoi dont know any people01:37
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jpieHi. Is ubuntu easier to install for newer users? I am having several problems with debian, and no one will guide me to fix them. I tried Ubuntu but was having problems with the installer. If I explain the problem can someone try and tell me what to do?01:37
Augustocan you help me?01:37
dooglus_aah - I worked out my ssh-agent issue.  you have to put "ForwardAgent yes" in ~/.ssh/config to get ssh to pass ssh-agent details on to the hosts it connects to.01:37
dooglus_(just for the record)01:37
Cervantes_Thanks sara_poo.  Unfortunately, you lost me pretty quickly.  :(  Could you elaborate a little on "dmseg" and "udev"01:37
Augustoi am argentino01:38
dooglus_jpie: you could ask, and see if we can help01:38
jpieokeys. Gimme a sec. going to load up the disk.01:38
Augustomy mother lo sigue always01:38
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bystanderAugusto: try /join #ubuntu-es01:38
bassinboywhat program to use to play .mov ?01:38
Wa77zare there p2p apps for linux ?01:39
sara_pooCervantes_: make sure your device is unplugged01:39
sara_pooWa77z: yup01:39
sara_pooCervantes_: and do a dmesg01:39
sara_pooCervantes_: then plug it in, and do dmesg again01:39
bassinboyWa77z: Windows aint got nothin on Linux when it comes to apps01:39
parabolizebassinboy: xine or mplayer.01:39
Cervantes_okay, I'll try that sara_poo01:39
sara_pooCervantes_: thats your system recognizing it, prolly as sd something01:39
sara_pooCervantes_: my ipod is sda01:39
bassinboyparabolize: tansk01:39
tmanHey ookii are you in here?01:40
sara_pooCervantes_: my usb key is sdb, and my removeable hd is sdc01:40
Wa77zsweet..dude..my sound is still broken01:40
Cervantes_sara_poo: Slow down a sec. ;)  How do I "do dmesg".  Are we talking in the terminal?01:40
sara_pooWa77z: limewire, amule, xmule, gift-box, etc.01:40
jpieOkay, this is stupid. Now that I installed a bad version of Debian, I have GRUB, and it doesnt check to see if CD-Rom will be bootable. Itj ust goes straight to GRUB and its annoying the crap out of me. Can anyone help? I just need to uninstall GRUB or Debian atleast. I am a complete newbie to linux just trying to test it out on a different comp.01:40
sara_pooCervantes_: yup, type 'dmesg'01:40
sara_pooin terminal01:40
Wa77zwhats ur fav01:40
sara_pooWa77z: itunes :)01:41
Cervantes_sara_poo: That's what I figured.  Except, it says the command is not found.  I'm on 4.1001:41
holycowjpie, that has nothing to do with grub01:41
jpiepeople tell me to just reboot andp ut cd in drive, but it doesnt work. GRUB is taking over the first to boot.01:41
Wa77zu got i tunes hack01:41
holycowjpie, thats a bios setting01:41
jpieBios is set to have CDrom drive first.01:41
dooglus_jpie: did you look at your BIOS settings?  in there you can tell it to boot from the CD first01:41
tmanI need help with libdvdcss library not being recognized.  Any takers?01:41
dooglus_jpie: aah.01:41
dooglus_jpie: have you ever been able to boot from the CD?01:41
jpiecdroim 1st, floppy 2nd, HDD 3rd,01:41
sara_pooCervantes_: dmesg is in /bin  should be in every users path01:42
jpiebefore i installed debian/grub..01:42
bassinboyparabolize: xine crashes ><01:42
jpiedid it late last night so didnt get to play with it much. Now I come back today and nothing works..01:42
holycowjpie, it still has nothing to do with grub01:42
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holycowjpie, it means either your cdrom is bad, or your cdrom is not recognized properly01:42
parabolizebassinboy: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs01:42
dooglus_jpie: I ask because I had the same problem a couple of weeks ago.  that was on a computer with a DVD and a CDROM on the same IDE cable.  The DVD was the 'master', and wouldn't boot.  I switched the jumpers on both drivers, so the CDROM was the master, and after that I could boot the ubuntu install disk.01:42
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holycowjpie, grub only gives you the debian options ONCE THE BIOS HAS DECIDED TO BOOT FROM THE HD01:42
jpieHow does it not have anything to do with GRUB? GRUB will not let me boot from cddrive. whenever i start up it goes straight to GRUB..01:43
bassinboyman every freakin  program has crashed on me... i didn't know ubuntu was this bad01:43
WMCoolmondoes anyone know why two separate network cards (a linksys and a d-link) wouldn't work under kubuntu?01:43
holycowoh what dooglus said, check cable thats one most newbs miss01:43
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Cervantes_sara_poo:  Oh okay, didn't know I had to cd.  Thanks, I'll try matching these messages up now01:43
jpieI only have 1 optical drive...01:43
budluvaWMCoolmon, dont know, but i run 2 nics in my ubuntu box no problems01:43
dooglus_jpie: I couldn't work out how to take the drives out, so I spent a few hours with a pair of tweezers and a torch to switch the jumpers over.  most fun I've had in months.01:43
holycowjpie, we don't like repeating our selves, primarily because we don't go out of our way to lie to you01:43
sara_pooCervantes_: you don't have to cd.  It should be in your path01:43
sara_poook, i've commented everything basically out of my xorg.conf, going to go crash X again with my tricky nvidia card.  ?01:43
holycowjpie, yes, its a bios/hardware/cdrom issue, grub only comes in to give youd ebian ONLY options ONCE THE BIOS BRINGS UP THE HD01:44
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dooglus_jpie: try booting from a CD that you know that drive can boot from.  I know that some drives won't boot the ubuntu CD, even though they'll boot other CDs01:44
jpieokay, so why does it skip the cdrom? It didnt do it before i installed debian to the harddrive.01:44
dooglus_jpie: on the same disk?01:44
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bassinboyparabolize: link doesn't seem to work, check it01:44
jpieIt booted ubuntu cd, debian cd, or any other cd, before debian installed. I havent changed anything.01:44
sara_poowhat file can i change to lower my runlevel, so gdm doesn't kick off at boot time?01:45
holycowyour jumper settings on your devices are wrong01:45
sara_pooor xdm, or whatever that thing is01:45
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bystanderjpie: you don't seem to be paying attention...01:45
bassinboyparabolize: nvm, it was my browser01:45
parabolizebassinboy: yes it works01:45
holycowsorry, just wanted to make that lear :)01:45
jpieI most certainly am..01:45
jpieBut everything was FINE01:45
dooglus_it's unlikely to be any of those 3, holycow?  he used to be able to boot the ubuntu cd, and hasn't changed anything.01:45
holycowdooglus_, it most certainly is01:45
holycowgrub has nothing to do with booting off the cdrom01:46
jpieand now I cant choose anything but to boot debian01:46
jpie-NOTHING- has changed.01:46
sara_poodooglus_: if your bios is set to look at your cdrom first, it won't see your mbr at all01:46
bystanderjpie: then something has gone wrong with your BIOS or hardware01:46
dooglus_jpie: did you open the machine?01:46
jpiemachine is opened all the time.01:46
sara_poodooglus_: it'll be looking at the mbr on your cdrom, did grub right to that? (neat trick...)01:46
biffurtcan anyone tell me how I can find out what type of audio I'm using? I'm trying to configure wxvlc, but I can't get the audio working01:46
biffurtIt works fine in other applications01:46
dooglus_sara_poo: what do you mean?01:46
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dooglus_sara_poo: did you mean to address that to jpie?01:47
sara_poodooglus_: yup, sorry01:47
sara_poojpie: look up01:47
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jpiei'll go Okay....bios is set for the cdrom drive first01:47
jpiehd last01:47
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calc"The Java Desktop System will continue to exist as a product, but now chiefly as software based on Sun's Solaris operating system and directed at programmers,"  seems Ubuntu killed JDS ;)01:47
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holycowjpie, check yoru cdrom jumper settings, try anoter ide cable01:48
dooglus_will debian kill ubuntu now that they're releasing again?01:48
jpiebios has been saved countless amounts of times that way, and hasnt changed.01:48
holycowjpie, lots of things can go wrong to trick the bios into not 'seeing' your cdrom of boot partition on the cd it self01:48
holycowdooglus_, thats a stupid thing to say01:48
sara_poojpie: it's probably not a bootable cd, or a _damaged_ bootable cd01:49
holycowdooglus_, the relationship is symbiotic01:49
dooglus_holycow: there are no stupid questions.  just stupid people.01:49
Cervantes_sara_poo: dmesg gives me a really long list.  What should I be looking for in particular?  I notice there's a lot of "Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block ..." and some other things with sda, even though my usb key is plugged in.  I've tried doing some things with mount; maybe that messed something up.01:49
holycowno thats a stupid question01:49
jpieerr. okay...I know what a jumper is, but donno where its found. I'll pull comp over here and look. Also, my IDE cable is hooked to my hd & cd drive01:49
sara_pooCervantes_: what filesystem is your usb key?01:49
bystanderholycow: I suspect it was rhetorical01:49
holycowah :) then i withdraw if so01:49
Cervantes_FAT, I believe01:49
cafuegoyes, I'm with Debian and in weeks time we're going to find Ubuntu users and kill them with pitchforks.01:50
Cervantes_sara_poo: FAT, I believe. I can plug it into my windows machine if need be to check01:50
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dooglus_no, it was asked out of ignorance.  I've been using mandrake for a couple of years and am really quite new to the whole .deb thing01:50
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holycowthats okay, ubuntu and debian are NOT in competition01:50
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MezCoC people01:50
airmikeyneed to find out how much ram is installed ,and how much is being used01:50
dooglus_i read somewhere that a lot of people started using ubuntu because debian was taking so long to release sarge.  I'm wondering if the release of sarge will draw people back to debian, away from ubuntu01:51
Cervantes_sara_poo: Yep, it's FAT.  Just checked01:51
holycowubuntu just freezes debian unstable every 6 months and polishes it up for a Desktop system01:51
cafuegoairmikey: 'free'01:51
biffurtcan anyone tell me how I can find out what type of audio I'm using? I'm trying to configure wxvlc, but I can't get the audio working01:51
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daoi got a question01:51
bystanderairmikey: cat /proc/meminfo01:51
daoi just installed ubuntu, and it never asked to set up a root password01:51
calcholycow: except for the part about debian unstable being out of date ;)01:51
holycowwhich happens to be a very SPECIAL instance of a distro, debian is a little more generic and you can do a lot more with it but it rerquires a lot more elbow grease too01:51
calcholycow: eg xorg01:51
dao... im a gentoo user.. just switched over to try it out01:51
sara_poohow do i set gdm to not run at boot time?  I think i need to lower my run level?01:51
daoanyone heard of this situation?01:51
jpiecan i get a second ide cable01:51
sara_pooCervantes_: what message do you get when you try to mount it?01:52
jpieand plug the cddrive into a second ide slot on the mobo?01:52
holycowcalc, hehe, *nod* i'm glossing over that with 'elbow grease' :)01:52
calcdao: there is no root password01:52
holycowthey will get there, debian should not be interefered with tho, they do great work01:52
daowhat the....01:52
bystandersara_poo: edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager and comment it out01:52
daohow can there be no root?01:52
Mezdooglus_ debian and ubuntu are working really well together, ubuntu takes a lot from debian, but it's also giving back for the simple fact that when ubuntu devs fix bugs, they send them back to be fixed in debain/upstream - which contributes to the community as a whole... I think debian and ubuntu work well togehter... :D01:52
calcdao: root is locked out by default and the main user has sudo access01:52
daoso ... how do i get root?01:52
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Mezdao: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo01:52
dooglus_dao "sudo -s"01:52
sara_poodao: you have to hack it01:52
holycowwhat mez said, please note: ubuntu freezes debian unstable EVERY 6 MONTHS01:53
sara_poodao: to probe yourself to the ubuntu gods01:53
calci do sudo su -, but there are probably other ways01:53
daowhat the01:53
Mezholycow... not exactly... but thereabouts01:53
sara_poodid debian users steal the root user or somethign?01:53
daokinda odd isnt it?01:53
holycowoutside of a number of customizations that are added on later, it is defacto debian by virtue of its dev process01:53
daocuz sudo -s asked for a password01:53
airmikeycafuego: thx01:53
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sara_poodao: just sudo everything01:53
dooglus_holycow: when did/will breezy freeze debian stable?01:53
calcdao: the password sudo asks for is your own01:53
Cervantes_sara_poo: That depends on what I type in when trying to mount it.  The first thing I tried (found some code at ubuntuforums.org) was "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb01:53
daoSUDO asks for a password01:53
bystanderairmikey: no problem :)01:54
daoand i dont know the root password...01:54
holycowdooglus_, check ubuntu website, schedule is on there01:54
airmikeyhow much is  90666001:54
dooglus_dao it wants your password, not root's01:54
daomine doesnt work01:54
Mezdao - sudo asks for the current users password as a reaffirmation that someone hasnt just walked up and typesd "sudop" bla!"01:54
sara_poodao: Cervantes_ what ddi that say?01:54
Cervantes_sara_poo: Typing that yields: mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist01:54
dooglus_Mez: only if nobody used sudo in the last 5 (?) minutes01:54
sara_pooCervantes_: try sda201:54
daonvm i hacked this thing ;)01:54
dooglus_Mez: otherwise it doesn't ask them01:54
calcdao: is the user you are logged in as the user you created during install?01:54
sara_pooCervantes_: try this too:  fdisk -l /dev/sda01:54
sara_pooCervantes_: that will list the partitions on /dev/sda01:55
Meztrue dooglus - but that's something that cna be easily changed if you're scared ;)01:55
daoi was baffled by this lol.. first linux distro with no root that ive used01:55
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calcdao: the only person with sudo access by default on an ubuntu install is the user created during install01:55
daono "root".. as in, you set it up that way01:55
holycowdooglus_, of course, don't be repeating anything i told you about ubuntu in #debian, they would be *cough* highly offended *cough*01:55
holycowhehe :)01:55
sara_poook, off to crash x again01:55
sara_pooCervantes_: i'll be back in a minute01:55
Cervantes_sara_poo: Tried the fdisk and it did not return anything01:55
biffurtcan anyone tell me how I can find out what type of audio I'm using? I'm trying to configure wxvlc, but I can't get the audio working01:55
Cervantes_sara_poo: ok01:55
Mezsara_poo, updating to breezy ? :P01:55
dooglus_holycow: is it just me, or is the ubuntu website very hard to find anything on?01:55
ookiii think about about to move back to deb (based on someone's reccomendation in this channel actually), is it going to be really hard to get to where ubuntu is upon normal installation?01:55
sara_pooMez: no, just new to ubuntu, and for some reason X crashes on login01:55
puddleboyi am fairly certain my dog is indeed retarded.01:55
dooglus_holycow: I find the easiest way to nagivate it is by using google!01:55
ookiibah i'm about01:55
holycowdooglus_, not you, google the site, its easier01:55
sara_pooMez: gdm works, np, but i type a username/password then my system freezes01:56
Mezah sounds fun sara_poo have you tried reconfiguring X ?01:56
holycow lol yeah :)01:56
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Cervantes_What does sda mean, btw?01:56
dooglus_holycow: it's a pretty site, but a nagivational nightmare01:56
sara_pooMez: i just commented out 1/2 of my xorg.conf, all modules, etc.01:56
sara_pooCervantes_: 'scsi devia a i think?01:56
Mezhmm - not good idea sara_poo you shoudlktn edit it manually01:56
sara_pooCervantes_: it's scsi emulation i think01:56
Mezif yous till need help after - PM me and I'll try help youk sara_poo01:56
Cervantes_sara_poo ooh ok :)01:57
sara_pooMez: ok, thanks for the help01:57
holycowdooglus_, well yeah i guess, but i'm not one to complain.  perhaps a good cms is called for, i donno01:57
jpieomg okay01:57
jpieits at the ubuntu screen.01:57
jpieI switched the ide cable around01:57
dooglus_holycow: even a google search for "site:www.ubuntulinux.org breezy" doesn't find the date that breezy was/(will be) frozen01:57
Mezdooglus: rthat would be becaus eit's on udu.wiki.ubuntu.com01:57
Mezor udu.ubuntu.com/wiki01:57
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MezJuly 7th = upstream version freeze (ish)01:58
jpiehowever. The last time i installed, it stopped on opening a package. went to 1%, then screen reset, and it tried opening the same package again, after going to 1%, it reset monitor. it did this about 15-20 times, and then just sat at a blank screen with blinking cursor.01:58
holycowdooglus_, i think there may be an overall 'good' idea behind the organization of ubuntu, i haven't clued into it yet, i'm too busy using it to do work on01:58
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daocant apt-get install fluxbox eh01:58
LexiCon[gsr-dj] ok...can anyone help me set up my ethernet card? it wasn't detected by the system when I installed :(01:59
jpieAnyone in reference to what problem I am having?01:59
Mezdao - yes you can01:59
daohow do i update the application list?01:59
holycowdooglus_, mostly tho next version of ubuntu isn't as important as the next versions of say open office, gnome, kde, and other biggies.  gnome 2.10 has really made me love desktop linux01:59
Mezdao - but ti's in universe01:59
daoso how do i do it?01:59
holycowLexiCon[gsr-dj] , do you know what model and make the nic is?01:59
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holycowLexiCon[gsr-dj] , generally if debian/ubuntu don't detect it, it means its obscure and not supported02:00
Juhazholycow, hardly anyone is going to install those by hand, though, so distros are just as important in getting the "biggies" to users02:00
chromatehas anybody else noticed that the torrents are not working?02:00
Mezdao: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list02:00
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Mezit t will have instructions tin there02:00
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holycowJuhaz, *nod* good point agreed02:01
holycowchromate, what do you mean?02:01
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chromateholycow: problem connecting to tracker02:01
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daoapt-get kinda blows compared to emerge02:02
holycowchromate, not sure torrent clients here work great, trackers die all the time02:02
daodoesnt even see eterm :/02:02
Mezhow so dao ?02:02
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daoapt-get install eterm02:02
holycoware we downloading maybe something we shouldn't be?02:02
daodoesnt get eterm for me02:02
holycowfirst its sudo apt-get install eterm02:02
twb_how do i insttall new gpu drivers?02:02
holycowsecon you need to search for the name02:02
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chromateholycow: so are there other trackers with the ubuntu cds?02:02
holycowtry apt-cache search eterm02:02
bystanderdao: that isn't apt - that's your lack of repositories02:02
daoBuilding dependency tree... Done02:02
daoE: Couldn't find package eter02:02
holycowthird eterm may not be in the main repositories02:02
daoi see.. how do i get more then?02:03
Mezagain dao - eterm is in universe02:03
holycowgo to /etc/apt/sources.list and enable the universe repositories02:03
holycowthen sudo apt-get update02:03
holycowapt-cache search eterm02:03
twb_anyone know of some tutorials for Ubuntu?02:03
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Mezdao  - edit /etc/apt/sources.list - it gives you instructions in there to edit certian lines to enable universe02:03
holycowsudo apt-get install etermpackagewhateveritscalled02:03
Meztwb_ http://www.ubuntuguide.org02:03
FlannelKingit's just eterm02:03
holycowdao, in otherwords, learn to use the tool before complaining02:03
daostill dumb that it doesnt have such a widely used program though02:04
holycownot dumb02:04
holycowthere are reasons02:04
daonot even aterm02:04
holycowprimarily there is a ctuoff point for support02:04
FlannelKingit does have it though, just not supported by Ubuntu02:04
daoi just gotta get used to it02:04
bystanderdao: it does - you just didn't know how to find it02:04
holycowubuntu officially supports 2k packages for which you can buy support02:04
holycoweterm just isn't on that list02:04
daoi could just go to sourceforge.net02:04
jpieOkay. When installing ubuntu im having a problem with "Unpacking scsi-extra-modules-" the file goes to 1%, then screen flickers, and it restarts recieving/unpacking the file. I tried on two other discs, and the same thing happened. It does this 15-20 times, then it sits at black screen with a blinking cursor in the bottom left hand corner of screen.02:04
Mezdao: see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view for more details02:04
holycowor you can use gentoo02:04
daobut i dont wanna, thats why i'd use somethin like emerge02:04
daok thanks02:04
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Mezdao - if you want to use emerge - get gentoo02:05
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daoive been using it for a LONG time02:05
bystanderdao: you just need to configure it is all02:05
daoheard good things about this02:05
daoroger... will do02:05
sara_pooportage on ubuntu?02:05
sara_poosounds spooky02:05
holycowdao, well then learn to use the tool, and learn to understand the why and when and how02:05
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Mezyeah sara_poo someone requested a backport of it earlier02:06
holycowif you want gentoo use that, why expect gentoo type nonsense on ubuntu?02:06
jpieAnyone know?02:06
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sara_pooit would be simplier to create your own .deb's i would guess02:06
holycowjpie, what kind of hardware do you have on your machine?02:06
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sara_pooI just came from gentoo, i lost my patience for compiling from source for everything02:06
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sara_pooand wanted to try something new02:06
Wa77zwhat do yall think of the qtella file sharing app02:06
Mezjpie - your best bet is to email cjwatson@ubuntu.com02:06
holycowjpie, i've had one debian install fail for someone in the netherlands on some obscure scsi/mobo related issues02:06
alberto_my sound card still not working........ what does this message mean ?02:06
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biffurtsorry to keep spamming, but can anyone tell me how I can find out what type of audio I'm using? I'm trying to configure wxvlc, but I can't get the audio working02:06
twb_anyone know of a way to modify folders, i.e (windows) My computer>C:>Networx (instead of Program files)???02:07
xxtremesara_poo= is gentoo really worth it02:07
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jpiepentium sempron i think, 433mhz, 128mb ram, 12g harddrive, some other stuff..02:07
biffurtI thought it was oss, but it's asking me for a dsp. But there's no dsp in /dev/, I'm compltely lost.02:07
holycowbystander, me too, there are like 5 commands or so that you need to know02:07
holycowbystander, its like trivial to use02:07
Meztwb_ what? this is linux - not windows - the filesystems w3ork differently02:07
sara_pooxxtreme: I have no problems with gentoo, but I'm here.   I used debian a few years ago, and it seems ubuntu has fixed many of the reasons i switched from debian... so i'm back02:07
daoi was surprised how easy the installation was02:07
vi4mhello, my nxclient displays plain form with one button (on Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary) installed from backports ... is it known bug ?02:07
daowow.. and fast02:07
sara_pooxxtreme: gentoo is good, but portage is not flawless.  You can get yourself into trouble with it.02:07
sara_pooxxtreme: and its slow02:08
holycowjpie, no scsi hardware?02:08
sara_pooxxtreme: compile kde-base from source Zzzzzzzzzzzz........02:08
Mezvi4m - what was hte package name ?02:08
daodont know why fluxbox install wont work from source either :S02:08
jpieerr, What would scsi hardware be? Sorry. Im oblivious to everything atm. Too many things going on at the house to think..02:08
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twb_Mez: i know, maybe i lost ya on that one, i meant, could i set up /networx? cuz everytime i  dl something it goes to desktop and i hate things on my desktop02:08
Mezdao - It's really simple02:08
MezI ahte haveing to do this but02:08
absinthe_I've decided to distro-hop for awhile. Any distro-reccomendations?02:09
vi4mMez: freenx02:09
xxtremesara_poo= I often think about gentoo, and should I try it, but I hear its hard, I love ubuntu, especiall kde 3.4, I came over from BDS, Redhat, Mandrake, and Yoper02:09
holycowjpie, scsi hard drive as opposed to ide hard drive, usually its faster, smaller, noisier and more reliable02:09
Mezdao: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories02:09
holycowor scsi cdrom02:09
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bystanderdao: and http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html02:09
holycowjpie, just curious, how did you get it to boot of cdrom?02:09
LexiCon[gsr-dj] holycow: there's been a bunch of Marvell Yukon drivers floating around02:09
FlannelKingIts got a smaller cable, instead of a big ribbon02:09
jpieMy CD drive is on an ide cable, so is my harddrive. Is scsi like S/ATA?02:09
Meztwb_ have a look at edit-> preferences ->downloads in firefox02:09
LexiCon[gsr-dj] so I'm guessing this nic would use around the same drivers02:09
Mezit'll let you change wher eit downloads to there02:10
sara_pooxxtreme: it's worth a shot i guess.  I would think it's good for users who are patient and have a high attention to detail.  (slackware with package management)02:10
holycowLexiCon[gsr-dj] , its possible they aren't in debian :/ i don't know i've never heard of that before unfortunately02:10
jpieholycow: I flipped the ide cable around to have CDDrive on the end, and HDD in the middle.02:10
holycowjpie, heh, i've had similar situation02:10
twb_Mez: great thx02:10
xxtremesara_poo, I had a lot of patience with BSD and Redhat, I'm very happy here, it just sits in the back of mind, thats all02:11
absinthe_Any distro reccomendations?02:11
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daowill someone list ONE program that is up for apt-get install?02:11
LexiCon[gsr-dj] http://www.marvell.com/products/pcconn/yukon/index.jsp02:11
jpieit might just be problems with the crappy Compaq computer. they control everything. I cant do crap with the computer. No overclocking/voiding of warranties of any kind.02:11
daocuz ... all the stuff i use isnt being found02:11
holycowdao, say what?02:11
sara_pooabsinthe_: ubuntu02:11
Mezvi4m we havent had any bug reports about it yet... and it's in main backports - make a bug report topic here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=4702:11
alberto_how can i get kernel 2.6.10 from apt-get02:11
sara_poodao: apt-get install vigor02:11
holycowdao, debian has 16 000 apps in repositores, as does ubuntu in universe02:11
absinthe_sara_poo, lol yeah I love Ubuntu but I want to experiment02:11
xxtremesara_poo, im happy helping others with ubunta, and also learning more02:11
daowtf is vigor lol02:11
Mezdao - try running synaptic, that will list them all for you02:11
holycowdao, i cannot believe you use such esoteric stuff that not even one would be found02:11
daoi enabled the universe thing.... :S02:12
daostill nada02:12
bystanderdao: you've been told repeatedly how to fix your problem - if you don't want to, by all means use gentoo02:12
holycowthen sudo apt-get update02:12
xxtremesara_poo, thanks02:12
holycowyou need to update the database02:12
daompg123.. fluxbox, eterm, aterm02:12
sara_pooabsinthe_: check out #linuxhelp ?02:12
daonot esoteric02:12
absinthe_sara_poo, Ok thanks02:12
holycowthen apt-cache search app <-- that searches the database, not apt repositories02:12
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SpecialBuddydoes anyone here know anyting about wine02:12
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twb_Mez: another question, i just dl'ed new drivers for gpu, but when  open it it says "could not open file.."02:13
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jpieso does my hardware have anything to do with the installation not completing on "Unpacking scsi-extra-modules-" ?02:13
holycowrobtaylor_, thats a fine name you got there02:13
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holycowkinda like mine02:13
Meztwb - probably a corrupt file, or in a format you dont have a progrM RO UAW02:13
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holycowSpecialBuddy, i don't use it much, what do you need to know?02:13
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sara_poowow, x windows is pretty02:14
twb_mez: its a .run02:14
sara_poowoo hoo02:14
holycowdao, all that shit is there, you just need to learn apt, its like 6 commands or so, sheesh02:14
sara_pooDRI had to be commented out i think,  it was on Mode 0666 and that wasn't in my xorg.conf from my gentoo install02:14
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twb_o me02:14
jpieIf I install another distro, like Debian, will it automatically have a GUI? I didnt have problems with that before, but my apt stuff was messed up.02:15
twb_there a way to convert to diff. format?02:15
holycowjpie, if you select the desktop configuration yes02:15
Meztwb_ run files cause problems for me no matter what i do or what distro I use. I'd suggest trying a different format02:15
SpecialBuddyholycow, i just need to know why when I install something I can't seem to see the folder it was installed to02:15
Wa77zwhat is the .tar.gz file ext. is it like an .exe for windows..or like a .rar or what02:15
jpieokay. i'll try that. Ubuntu is just gonna have to wait till I get my cd's in :)02:15
holycowSpecialBuddy, what do you mean 'see folder'?02:16
FlannelKingwa77z its a gzip of a tar file, so it's like .zip02:16
holycowSpecialBuddy, most apps are spread accross the system, unlike windows02:16
holycowSpecialBuddy, binary files are usually in /usr/bin02:16
Wa77zthank you02:16
holycowhelp files somewhere else, config stuff in /etc02:16
holycowand so on02:16
sara_poo /clear02:16
SogniXanyone know how to get Window Maker to install on the current version of Ubuntu? I've not had any luck and I can't find help online - everything refers to an older version of Ubuntu.02:16
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SpecialBuddywell I'm trying to install ares and I did install it and it works but I can't find any of my files02:17
sara_pooSogniX: i think you have to change your apt-get sources somehow, I'm working on that also02:17
holycowSpecialBuddy, what are you looking for exactly?02:17
SogniXI figured that, just not figured out to what :)02:17
SpecialBuddyjust mp3's or where they are being downloaded to02:18
jpieUbuntu disc was just booting02:18
jpiebut when i put debian disc in02:18
FlannelKingSogniX: WindowMaker is in universe02:18
bystanderSogniX: uncomment universe lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, update, then install wmaker02:18
jpieIt still is trying to boot GRUB...What is wrong with this thing? It got an error though02:18
holycowSpecialBuddy, you can do sudo updatedb02:19
holycowSpecialBuddy, that will update the locate db and then you can do locate filename02:19
holycowthat will give you a really fast way to search for files02:19
SogniXI don't have universe in /etc/apt/sources.list02:19
holycowyesh updatedb is a pain, someone is working on something called rlocate which caches files system info automatically, not sure if/when that will get into debian tho02:20
bystanderSogniX: yes, you do if it's a default file - it even tells you how to uncomment them02:20
SpecialBuddyI just don't get it because I can see where ie and all of that stuff is located but ares isn't there02:20
alberto_Is there a different respocitory for apt-get, where i can get the kernel 2.6.10 using apt-get ?02:20
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bystanderSogniX: read the comments in the file02:20
SogniXit tells me to uncomment them - but they are missing... The file may have been overwritten.02:20
Wa77zever since i upgraded my firefox in the updates section of ubuntu..i got an xml error02:21
Wa77zwhen i download something02:21
FlannelKingthe kernal is in the base repo02:21
holycowSogniX, here is my sources.list file --> http://pastebin.ca/1621602:22
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bystanderSogniX: odd- in that case run `sudo apt-setup ` , then uncomment the lines (apt-setup will make a new file for you )02:22
FlannelKingalberto_: search for linux-image-2.6.1002:22
Mezalberto_,  ubuntu comes with 2.6.10 by default I think02:22
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SogniXoh yeah - defenatly different than mine02:22
holycowoh what bystander said, that should work too02:22
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holycowSpecialBuddy, not sure what you mean, which part don't you understand?02:23
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alberto_root@LapTors:~ # apt-cache search linux-image-2.6.1002:23
alberto_root@LapTors:~ #02:23
SpecialBuddynow stuff is showing up that wasn't there before02:23
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alberto_i have 2.6.802:23
bystanderalberto_: apt-cache search linux-image02:23
SpecialBuddyso is that just refreshing the system02:23
Mezalberto_, it uses 2.6.10 as default02:23
tonyHELP!!  I was using 1600x1200 resolution, after rebooting I only get 640x480...02:24
bystanderalberto_: you are using warty then right?02:24
holycowSpecialBuddy, no, locate is an application, it doesn't search the system it searches its database02:24
bystanderalberto_: cat /etc/issue to see02:24
SpecialBuddythe other thing02:24
holycowSpecialBuddy, you need to do sudo updatedb to update the database02:24
SogniXis there anything I need to do to make the changes take effect - or will it work the next time I run apt-get?02:24
Bolshow can I install multiuniverse packages, plz?02:24
alberto_root@LapTors:~ # cat /etc/issue02:24
alberto_Ubuntu 4.10 "Warty Warthog" \n \l02:24
holycowSpecialBuddy, way ahead of you :)02:25
Mezaha :D a warty user.02:25
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MezI'd suggest upgrading to hoary if i were you alberto_02:25
holycowSogniX, you need to sudo apt-get update02:25
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tonyCan anyone help with my screen resolution prob?02:25
holycowSogniX, apt-get uses a database to store information about a repository02:25
bystanderBols: add the word "multiverse" to your universe lines in /etc/apt/sources.list02:25
norahAnybody had troubling with acpi and Athlon XP-m ? I can modprobe the powernow-k7 og powernow-k8 module .02:25
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Mezalberto - I'll PM you if thats ok and give help on how to upgrade?02:25
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alberto_mez is there a howto on upgrading the distro ?02:25
SpecialBuddythats good to know because now I can see the files and folders02:25
alberto_tMez thank you so much02:25
SpecialBuddyholycow, thanks02:25
holycowSogniX, in order for apt to know what to do you need to update the database when you add/modify repository information in sources.list02:25
Bolsbystander, already tried that... but it doesn't seem to work :/02:26
holycowSpecialBuddy, no worries, just paying back what i recieved02:26
bystanderBols: did you run ` sudo apt-get update ` ?02:26
tonyCan anyone see my post???02:26
SpecialBuddywell I was getting frustrated not knowing where it went02:26
norahMy Athlon xp-m overheats and shuts down :'( can't modprobe powernow-k802:26
holycowSpecialBuddy, sure, or how to find it, or why finding it is obscure, understood02:27
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Bolsbystander, yes.. I get this error : Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/multiuniverse Packages02:27
bystanderBols: spelling error02:27
bystanderBols: multiverse02:27
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Bolserm.. ok, thx02:27
twb_does anyone know how to set up Ventrilo on Ubuntu?02:27
LinuxNewbiehello can anyone help me out with ubuntu02:28
LinuxNewbieim new with linux02:28
twb_me 202:28
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LinuxNewbieso can anyone help us out?02:28
twb_dude, i dk02:29
budluvajust ask already02:29
holycowtwb_, chances are higher that some of that info could be googled quicker, than the chance of running into someone here that would know02:29
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bystanderLinuxNewbie: just ask a question - if someone can help they will02:29
twb_kk thx02:29
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holycowLinuxNewbie, the rules are: be nice, be polite, just ask, don't be annoying02:29
holycowLinuxNewbie, so whats your question/s?02:29
FlannelKingLinuxNewbie, it might help you to look over the forums as well.02:29
Wa77zomfg god...if i reboot i have to unplug andplug back in my mouse to get it to keep workin02:29
LinuxNewbieok here it is, i just installed ubuntu and then when it loaded it did not go to the x server02:30
Wa77zotherwise..it is not recognized02:30
LinuxNewbieive tried startx02:30
LinuxNewbiebut command not found02:30
LinuxNewbiei think it did not load some library02:30
holycowlinuxboy, what kind of video card does your system have?02:30
SogniXthanks for your help! :)02:30
holycowLinuxNewbie, not linuxboy02:30
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LinuxNewbieits via02:30
MezLinuxNewbie, did you tyry a custom or server install ?02:30
Wa77zthis is gay....and my sound dont work all the time02:31
norahHi :) anybody had troubles with ACPI and CPU-overheat with an AMD Athlon XP-m ?02:31
Wa77zits only some of the time02:31
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norahCan't modprobe the powernow modules :S02:31
holycowLinuxNewbie, login as the user and do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:31
norahit tells that device not found .02:31
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LinuxNewbieok wait ill try that02:31
holycowthat should give you a chance to reconfig yoru server via at least a wizard type of interface02:31
KhaBalhi guys02:31
holycowwe can try other things later02:31
Wa77zcan someone help me figure out my mouse prblem02:31
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LinuxNewbieive try sudo dpkg-reconfigure02:32
LinuxNewbieit ask me a password02:32
Wa77zit is not recognized when i reboot....i have to unplug it and plug it back in..then it works fine02:32
holycowtype in the password you used to login with02:32
athlonhow often do packages get updated ? The new Koffice 1.4 was released a week ago, KDE 3.4.1 about a month ago, but so far no packages.02:32
LinuxNewbieok now02:32
tiglionabbitWa77z: ESD will do that.  They're fixing it in breezy, but for now try changing its config like in the restricted formats faq02:32
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Wa77zhunh ?02:32
Mezathlon - the version gets frozxen when it's released02:33
holycowWa77z, sounds like an issue with usb drivers ... not sure how to fix that.  have you tried a different usb mouse just to eliminate that possibility?02:33
tiglionabbityou said your sound didn't work all the time02:33
LinuxNewbieit said specify a packarge to reconfigure02:33
Mezif you want new packages, you either backport them or compile02:33
Wa77zps2 mouse02:33
bystanderathlon: hoary is a stable release - new packages will be in the next release (October)02:33
Mezhowever, kubuntu packages for 3.4.1 and koffice are availabekl02:33
KhaBalim download JSDK package java, >>>>3:30:50 <<<its going to take << sigh02:33
holycowps2 mouse? oh you got me there, sorry not sure where to go from there02:33
Mezhave a look at the news on http://www.kubunut.org02:33
Wa77zit workd great once i unplug and plug it back in02:33
Mezhave a look at the news on http://www.kubuntu.org/ *02:33
holycowLinuxNewbie, scroll up and read my post02:33
holycowi gave you the whole command02:33
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KhaBalwhats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?02:33
holycowKhaBal, one has kde other gnome de02:34
athlonhmm, so, is there any way for me to upgrade  them ? not wanting to get afflicted by versionitis or anything, but I consider .1 release to be quite important cos they usually fix imporant bugs and smoothe the rough edges02:34
Wa77zand also..my sound only works when i play a song..its not consistant02:34
Wa77zfor system sounds its brokeen02:34
KhaBalholycow: gnome=much better02:34
FlannelKingYou can switch between the two of them, without reinstalling, there are instructions at Kubuntu (how to convert from U to K)02:34
holycowKhaBal, i like both, but use gnome02:34
LinuxNewbieok it said xserver-xorg is not installed02:35
holycowFlannelKing, ah neat, yeah that should be easily doable02:35
tiglionabbitWa77z: we know that.  ESD kind of sucks02:35
flughaah, my ubuntu box is purring along smoothly after a first-time 'real' install. i hope you all have a similar happy experience :)02:35
Wa77zim not sure what ESD is02:35
holycowlinuxboy, thats your problem first, you don't have the right components installed02:35
Wa77zi am new to linux..02:35
twb_is Real Plyer neccessary with Ubuntu?02:35
Wa77zim sure u can tell by that comment02:35
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LinuxNewbiebut i just followed the instructions in the installation02:36
bystandertwb_: depends what you want to play I guess02:36
holycowanyone here know what the components for xserver are called in ubuntu? i know the debian names ...02:36
tiglionabbitWa77z: Enlightenment Sound Daemon.  It will handle system sounds, but many applications wont play well with it, so you configure it to suspend ESD while running those applications.  But you can only run one of such applications with sound rights at a time02:36
tiglionabbitholycow: xorg02:36
abbot45where can i get a .mp4 codec for totem/mplayer?  i dont think its part of w32.02:36
twb_well, im havng trouble installing it, .exe wont open02:36
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LinuxNewbieim using a AMD sempron02:36
Wa77zic..how can it be fixed02:36
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LinuxNewbieis that a problem?02:36
tiglionabbitWa77z: did you configure ESD like it says in restricted formats?02:36
ubotumethinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:36
Wa77zi dont know how02:37
bystanderholycow: xserver-xorg ( or a more complete package is x-window-system-core)02:37
holycowLinuxNewbie, well first install sudo apt-getinstall xserver-xorg02:37
Wa77zi would like too02:37
holycowthats the first pieces your missing02:37
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holycowor right ... do sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core02:37
LinuxNewbieok ill just type that and insert the CD right?02:37
holycowthats the one :) thanks bystander !02:37
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holycowLinuxNewbie, heh actually before you do that02:37
holycowdoes your ubuntu box have high speed access?02:38
Wa77zor i can just turn off those apps sounds right02:38
holycowLinuxNewbie, do ping www.google.com02:38
holycowtell us if you get a response on your ubuntu box02:38
LinuxNewbiewhat is a ubuntu box?02:38
tonyCan anyony see me?02:38
bystanderholycow: a beeter way might be ` sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop `02:38
flughtony: no02:38
holycowLinuxNewbie, the one you are installing right now02:38
holycowbystander, oh is that the package he should install instead?02:38
tiglionabbitWa77z: make /etc/esound/esd.conf look like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-5bb92da29c02203193ac2fa6d2cfb90064959bec02:38
abbot45mp4 codec?  is there one for xine?02:38
holycowah neat, okay, i've never had to fix ubuntu before :)02:39
LinuxNewbiettl 24102:39
bystanderholycow: that contains all the deps  ( metapackage)02:39
tiglionabbitLinuxNewbie: a box is a computer02:39
tonyHelp I was using 1600X1200, after rebooting I only get 640X480...02:39
cafuegoLinuxNewbie: Like a bento box, but with crunchy cdrom sushi.02:39
Wa77zlet me look realquick02:39
tiglionabbitcafuego: rofl02:39
holycowbystander, yeah i'm used to just installing the basics in debian, cool02:39
LinuxNewbiehow do i stop the ping02:39
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holycowlinuxboy, okay now do this02:39
WMCoolmonLinuxNewbie: ctrl-c02:39
holycowthen select an HTTP repository02:40
tonyCan any one help me?02:40
LinuxNewbieok apt-setup02:40
holycowthen we will just upgrade the whole system simultaneously and add anything thats missing by hand if need be02:40
tiglionabbittony: what did you change?02:40
Wa77zok..how do i find and edit that file02:40
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LinuxNewbiethen it ask for the Cd02:40
LinuxNewbieinsert it02:40
holycowLinuxNewbie, go add an http repository02:40
MezLinuxNewbie, it might be better if you just reinstall from scratch...02:40
tiglionabbitWa77z: that is the exact path.  Go to the root directory and work up from there02:40
tonyI upgraded to the latest kernel02:41
FlannelKingI agree, if youve got a fresh install, just reinstall02:41
Mezand dont do an server /epxert install02:41
JasonMcGuirkAny l33t hax0rz here that can help me with configuring my wireless card for my laptop in ubuntu64?02:41
JasonMcGuirkit was working for awhile02:41
holycowMez, he's mostly there, he just screwed up the the repository part on the install02:41
LinuxNewbieok ive selected http02:41
JasonMcGuirkand then it up and quit on me02:41
tiglionabbitWa77z: or you could open a terminal and type the name of an editing program and then that absolute filename path02:41
LinuxNewbieit prompt me to select a country02:41
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LinuxNewbieshould i select my country?02:41
Mezholycow - not neccessariuly... you dont really know withougt looking...02:42
LinuxNewbiepermission denied02:42
Mezhe might have screwedup completely... it's better to have an automated install rahter than a manual02:42
MezLinuxNewbie, reinstall from the CD... it's easier02:42
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holycowMez, and we also don't know if there is something else is going on, so far we've eliminated a few possibilities, and this is more sensible than starting over02:42
holycowBECAUSE we don't exactly know why the cd install failed02:42
FlannelKingAnd he wont lose anything, and it'll be eaiser02:43
tiglionabbitLinuxNewbie: if you'd like, I can post my sources.list and you can use it02:43
Mezhowever, we also know that a abse ssyetm without sudo = nothingyou can do02:43
holycowpermission denied? heh, do what mez said, reisntall from cd02:43
JasonMcGuirkAny l33t hax0rz here that can help me with configuring my wireless card for my laptop in ubuntu64?02:43
LinuxNewbienow im trying to install from the CD02:43
Mezfinalyl you agree with me holycow02:43
LinuxNewbiepls help me out here02:43
tiglionabbitJasonMcGuirk: wish I could, but it detected mine automatically, so..02:43
holycowMez, sure, but if you could of dist upgraded, why not try?02:43
tiglionabbitJasonMcGuirk: best bet is to check the wiki02:43
LinuxNewbienow im the opening screen02:43
LinuxNewbieit ask me to enter SERVER02:43
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FlannelKingLinuxNewbie, I assume you talking on another machine02:43
bystanderLinuxNewbie: don't02:43
Mezbecause a dist-upgrade would have only upgraded the base packages, whcih dont include any gui :D02:43
redirJasonMcGuirk, deactivate it and reactivte it02:44
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LinuxNewbiei dont enter server?02:44
MezLinuxNewbie, when it says about entering "server2 just hit enter02:44
Mezdont type anything02:44
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=== sara_poo finally in xchat and out of irssi
JasonMcGuirkredir: Have tried02:44
Mezthats where you went wrong before02:44
sara_poox windows is more fun in ubuntu02:44
MezLinuxNewbie, don't type server - just hit enter02:44
_0killsanyone know how to set GNOME up to kill ESD at startup?02:44
tiglionabbitsara_poo: heeeey, irssi is awesome.  You just need to learn to use it02:44
twb_why wont it let me play an audio CD?!!??!02:44
JasonMcGuirkI can see my routers, it just won't seem to connect02:45
LinuxNewbieive enter the country02:45
tiglionabbitsara_poo: http://f0rked.com/core/irssi02:45
LinuxNewbieenglish etc02:45
Mez_0kills, apt-get remove --purge esd02:45
tiglionabbitwhat's LinuxNewbie trying to do here?02:45
Wa77zok ...what can i use to edit it..Configuration Editor ?02:45
taomasterany easy way 2 install java?02:45
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holycowtiglionabbit, just reinstall, let mez walk him through it02:45
_0killsMez, and that will remove esd entirely?02:45
holycowtoo many people talking to him will confuse him02:45
sara_pootiglionabbit, it's a bit awkward for me, but I have friends who swear by it.  Something as simple as a chat program I don't think i should have to _learn_ how to use02:45
tiglionabbittaomaster: there's a link to it in restricted02:45
JasonMcGuirkAnyone here that can help me fix my wireless drivers in ubuntu 64?02:45
ubotusomebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:45
Mez_0kills, yes02:45
LinuxNewbienow im in the HOST NAME02:45
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sara_pootiglionabbit, a programmers editor for example, i think is worth learning02:46
LinuxNewbieive enter a host name CICST202:46
_0killsMez, thanks, is that safe to do?02:46
Mezwho controls ubotu02:46
tiglionabbitLinuxNewbie: perhaps you should read an install guide rather than asking us every single thing02:46
Mezif you dont want to use esd then yteah02:46
sara_pooMez, i do.02:46
sara_pooMez, my hostname is  ubotu02:46
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Mezsara_poo, restricted != RestrictedFormatds02:46
sara_pooMez, if i could only find that damn root pw....02:46
Mezsara_poo, restricted != RestrictedFormats02:46
bystanderMez: it's just a keyword, chill02:47
tiglionabbitsara_poo: actually, irssi is a very useful and beautiful program, which I use as much, or more, than my editors02:47
Wa77ztiglionabbit : i understand what i have to do..im just not sure what exactly the command is i am suppose to type in02:47
sara_pooMez, ?02:47
bystanderMez: and sara_poo is kidding02:47
Mezyeah but it's giving out wrong information02:47
_0killsMez, got an error,  E: Couldn't find package esd02:47
sara_pooi missed that02:47
Wa77zsome thing /etc/blah blah blah02:47
sara_poowell, sorry, didn't realize ... something02:47
sara_pooi guess02:47
bystanderMez: no, it isn't - it's just a shorthand for the wiki URL for restricted formats02:47
tiglionabbitWa77z: try saying "sudo gedit /etc/esound/esd.conf" at the terminal02:48
Wa77zi found it02:48
tiglionabbitmake sure you edit it with super user privileges (sudo)02:48
Mezsomebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:48
Wa77zi am just scared to touch anything..i dont reeally know what all these buttons do02:48
Mezleaves confusing about tre restriceted repository02:48
twb_this system wont run anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!02:48
tiglionabbitWa77z: buttons?02:48
sara_pooWa77z, don't touch the red button, that one breaks the internet02:49
twb_why cant i install Raven Shield???02:49
twb_PLEAS HELP!!02:49
Wa77zya i know02:49
tiglionabbitraven shield, what's that?02:49
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sara_pootwb_, whats raven sheild?02:49
LinuxNewbieok can i ask something, in the x server environment02:49
MezRaven Shield = a game02:49
puddleboyits a rainbow 6 game02:49
twb_its a game, Rainbow Six 302:49
tiglionabbittwb_: do you have cedega?02:49
LinuxNewbiecan i create users there?02:49
Wa77zjust like..i dont know how to navigate and use all the apps as well as i can in windows...mostly just where to find files02:49
MezLinuxNewbie, applets are provided for you to mamage users, yes02:49
tiglionabbittwb_: that looks like a windows game.  If you want to run windows programs on ubuntu you'll need to use wine, crossover office, or cedega02:50
LinuxNewbielike in the windows server?02:50
twb_no i don thave cedega02:50
tiglionabbittwb_: then buy it02:50
twb_i have to buy that stuff?02:50
tiglionabbityeah..  sadly02:50
sara_pooi'm a cedega subscriber, I rarely use it anymore though.  some of the native linux games are great now02:50
twb_thats bs02:50
CarlFKyou don't have to buy wine02:50
bystandertwb_: in case you didn't notice, GNU/Linux is a different Operating System *grin*02:50
sara_pootwb_, go install enemy territory, it's free, and the best shooter i've played02:50
sara_poo(free as in beer)02:51
tiglionabbittwb_: well you either buy cedega, use wine for free, play native linux games, or dual boot with windows for your game fix02:51
CarlFKmy ubuntu box doesnt make toast... that's bs too.02:51
_0killssara_poo, where do you get enemy territory from?02:51
ukatofileplanet, right02:51
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twb_well, its not just the game, im having trouble with virtually everything02:51
Wa77zWTF.. i opened the file in a text editor..and i cant change anything02:51
sara_poo_0kills, (afraid of being a gentoo noob...)  emerge enemy-territory-etpro  , but i'm sure we can google for it02:51
twb_the only thing that seems to be working here is AIM02:51
sara_poo_0kills, i'll find you the site02:51
tiglionabbittwb_: linux isn't windows.  You shouldn't be able to automatically install windows programs on it02:52
Mez_0kills, Enemy-Territory.com02:52
twb_well, i understand that02:52
tiglionabbitthat's like trying to run windows programs on a mac02:52
tiglionabbitor visa versa02:52
_0killssara_poo, Mez, thanks02:52
twb_but can someone plz get me ut of the darlk?02:52
ukatoor linux programs on windows.02:52
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Wa77zdo i need to be root to edit my /etc/esound/esd/conf file02:52
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sara_poowould something like et be in apt-cache search ?02:52
pedingtoEvenin' Folks.02:53
tiglionabbitWa77z: yes.  At a terminal, please say `sudo gedit /etc/esound/esd.conf` without those `s02:53
WMCoolmonhmm, i think my kubuntu install is stuck at "Testing security update repository..."02:53
twb_like......why cant i play my Modest Mouse cd?02:53
tiglionabbittwb_: yes.  Just put it in, gnome should handle that02:53
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twb_its not02:53
ukatotwb_, what CD02:53
tiglionabbittwb_: doesn't it plop a CD icon on your desktop?02:53
sara_poowhere is the RTFM pages on apt?  I need to learn how to find stuff, and edit my sources02:53
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bystandertwb_: I bet you don't have a cable from your sound card to your CD player - try playing it in xmms with digital output enabled02:54
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twb_omg....now it wont eject my cd?02:54
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^thehatsrule^thank god02:55
twb_wtf is goin on here02:55
LinuxNewbieif my server is UBUNTU and my client are XP02:55
LinuxNewbiethere wont be a problem?02:55
sara_poofirst time i've seen that02:55
nemikstupid script kiddies02:55
sara_pooanother debian user trying to kill us i bet02:55
tiglionabbittwb_: right-click on the cd icon on your desktop, and pick eject02:55
kertratsI seem to have missed something02:55
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ukatohmmm, has anyone used Stratagus before?02:55
twb_i did, 'unable to eject" it says02:55
unrealI pick the best moments to return... right when a script kiddie frog is flooding the channel02:55
sara_poowhere is the RTFM pages on apt?  I need to learn how to find stuff, and edit my sources02:55
tiglionabbitLinuxNewbie: all OSs can play nicely with eachother over a network or the internet02:55
kertratsfirst thing in the door is 'thank god'02:55
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tiglionabbittwb_: perhaps a program is trying to handle it?  Does it say anything else, like "is in use" ?02:56
bystandersara_poo: more than you'll ever need to know about apt >> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html02:56
sara_poobystander, thanks02:56
kertratsok, I'm brand new to linux, and I'm finding it difficult to install anything02:56
tiglionabbittwb_: what is the device name of your optical drive?02:56
Wa77zcan you paste that link again02:57
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twb_device name of optical?02:57
kertratsfor instance, I just downloaded firefox 1.0.4 off the moz.org site, and when I open the installer, it just gives me a bunch of xpi files02:57
Wa77zi cant believe i closed out without saving my bookmark02:57
kertratswhich ones do I use?02:57
bystandertwb_: in a terminal, type   sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/eject   then try ejecting again02:57
tiglionabbitWa77z: what page?02:57
kertratser, I guess that's just in the one folder02:57
Wa77zthe one where it shows me what part to edit02:57
kertratsbut still, it's lost on me02:57
Wa77zthe only one u have pasted for me02:58
tiglionabbitkertrats: use synaptic02:58
Wa77zi need to edit that to make it look like default=options or somethin02:58
sara_poook, before i get cozy and start reading for the night, is there anyway to tweak gnome into having sloppy focus, and shading?  It seems wierd by default....02:58
ubotufrom memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:58
twb_"too few arguments"....???02:59
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bystandertwb_: did you do what I suggested ?02:59
ukatoanyone used Stratagus before?02:59
maeDude, I _love_ tomboy02:59
tiglionabbitsara_poo: system->preferences->windows02:59
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twb_i just want to be able to install programs.....why is it so hard?03:00
sara_pootiglionabbit, thanks03:00
tiglionabbittwb_: to install programs, use Synaptic03:00
tiglionabbittwb_: and forget about your windows CDs03:00
pedingtotwb_ its not hard, if you learn apt-get or even use the Synaptic Package Manager.03:00
bystandertwb_: because you are new and have stuff to learn03:00
twb_whats that and where can i get it?03:00
tiglionabbittwb_: run it.  You already have it03:00
twb_synaptic and apt -get03:01
Wa77zok..now i can change to also right ..instead of esd03:01
bystandertwb_: you are expecting everything to act like windows03:01
whooperhi! I'm trying to install ubuntu on a disk while keeping the existing partitions.. seems like the installer doesn't detects any partitions, so the only choice is to rewrite the whole partition table =/ should it be so? =)03:01
Wa77zalsa **03:01
pedingtoSynaptic is in System --> Administration --> Synaptic.03:01
twb_im expecting everything to run as easily as windows : /03:01
tiglionabbittwb_: it does.  You just do things differently03:01
sproingieyou'll find apt runs a lot easier than windows03:01
sproingieno more looking for most apps03:01
tiglionabbitsproingie speaks the truth03:01
bystandertwb_: no, you are expecting the same metaphors to apply - and they don't03:01
sproingieno more grabbing dependencies.  they install automagically03:02
bystandertwb_: once you start to get it, it becomes easier03:02
tiglionabbitwell that's a comparison with red hat, sproing03:02
pedingtoOh yeah, once you learn the basics of apt-get google searches to find programs mostly disapeer ;)03:02
sproingieand removal that doesn't take a control panel a minute to start up, only removing one thing at a time03:02
sproingietiglionabbit: eh?  yum grabs deps automatically03:02
tiglionabbitsproingie: that's fedora03:02
maeyum is awful compared to apt03:03
sproingieapt can't handle multiple architectures at once, unfortunately03:03
sproingieyum can03:03
twb_ok, im at synaptic...whats all this?03:03
tiglionabbittwb_: this is a program that searches online software servers called "repositories" which have a bunch of programs you can install.  Hit search, or browse the categories.  Many of them you may never have heard of though03:04
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tiglionabbittwb_: you may profit from reading the restricted formats wiki if you want to do many of the things you did in windows.  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:05
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ciancihi, can someone help me?03:05
tiglionabbitcianci: with what?03:05
SymGeosiscianci, with what?03:05
twb_ok, so how do i know what drivers are installed rigght now, id like to have my SB ZS and Nvidia drivers back03:06
twb_hey still there?03:06
BolsWhat's the command to reload the system default locales, plz?03:06
bystandertwb_: I suggest you go and read this: http://www.aboutdebian.com/linux.htm Realise that you are now part of a community and you need to do some reading and legwork to get up to speed. Also make use of google with site:ubuntulinux.org keywords03:06
misfit_toyubuntu is awesome, but I have found the help here lacking as far as advanced issues, is there another forum for ubuntu?03:06
tiglionabbittwb_: I believe there are nvidia drivers in synaptic, if you add the repositories detailed in the restricted formats faq03:06
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ciancii am trying to move files to a folder where it says i don't have permission to write to it03:06
ciancihow can i move files to that folder03:07
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osirisHello there does anybody run a samsung 172v lcd monitor with ubuntu, as im having problems configuring mine, i have a ghosted image on the cursor and text when in 1280x1024 but not in 1024x768, the monitor definatly supports 1280x1024 @60 and 70hz and i have used the vert and horiz values that i found in the manual and its still the same any help would be brilliant.03:07
Cervantes_sara_poo: I've tried lots of things to get that USB key working, but now when I try to mount it I get the "mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist" message.  Any ideas?  :)03:07
puddleboymisfit_toy, if you are having 'advanced issues' then you should have no problem doing a google search to solve them.03:07
tiglionabbitmisfit_toy: http://ubuntuforums.org ?03:07
SymGeosiscianci, sudo and then cp.03:07
goldfishCervantes_: what does 'fdisk -l' say ....03:08
cianciis there a way where i can move many files at once, SymGeosis?03:08
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ryannhello  i just installed ubuntu and my resolution is mest up03:08
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:08
tiglionabbitcianci: yes.  mv a directory, or many files in a row03:08
ryanni tryed editing the xorg but still i cant chage it03:08
goldfishryann: follow that link03:08
SymGeosiscianci, go the the folder that you would like to move. sudo cp -R *03:08
ryanngoldfish, thanks03:08
Cervantes_goldfish: lots of things:  shall I private it to you?03:08
goldfishCervantes_: yeah03:08
tiglionabbitwell, dinner time.  I'll be back03:08
cianciSymGeosis, what is the command for that?03:08
SymGeosiscianci, cd [dir] 03:09
SymGeosissudo cp -R *03:09
ciancibut where do i specify the directory location?03:10
misfit_toypuddleboy, tiglionabbit I have googled for 10 hours now and solved a wireless nic issue that was not listed anywhere in google or ubuntuforums, I am just tired, forgive me, I will post the resolution later tonite.03:10
SymGeosisah, sorry. sudo cp -R * [dir] 03:10
twb_ok.....ill try this approach, where is a goo dplace to start....?03:10
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SymGeosisBah, I was just about to direct him to the man files for cp, mv, chmod and chown...03:11
puddleboymisfit_toy I hope you used ndiswrapper03:11
osirisHello there does anybody run a samsung 172v lcd monitor with ubuntu, as im having problems configuring mine, i have a ghosted image on the cursor and text when in 1280x1024 but not in 1024x768, the monitor definatly supports 1280x1024 @60 and 70hz and i have used the vert and horiz values that i found in the manual and its still the same any help would be brilliant.03:11
sara_pooi have a new install, and something is wrong with my apt.  I'm trying to read through the apt- how-to and they say to 'apt-get install netselect', but I can't even find that.03:12
sara_pooseems no packages are available,03:12
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(MDM3455/#ubuntu) can you have normal Wine and Cedega installed together?06:03
(SpecialBuddy/#ubuntu) I just want to make an icon without the white on the edges06:04
(crimsun/#ubuntu) MDM3455: sure.06:04
(Burgundavia/#ubuntu) ray_, they basically say whether or not a license is free or not06:04
ray_anyone know of a good online 3d shooter06:04
tomchukfor i in `ls *.jpg`; do mogrify -transparent #ffffff $i; done06:04
punkrockguy318ray_, cube06:04
punkrockguy318will breezy be debian compatible?06:05
Razor-Xray-: Cube06:05
tomchukSpecialBuddy: something like the above should work06:05
talioshola - anyone here compiled up mod_caucho for apache2 on ubuntu?  I'm getting "can't find apache lib" - I have apache2 installed, along with the dev pacakges06:05
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Razor-Xtalios: make sure you have the apache dev libs06:05
SpecialBuddyI'm not really sure if that magic wand is working06:06
taliosRazor-X, I noticed after i removed apache-dev apxs dissapeared, but had assumed the apache2 dev packaes might bring back an apache2 version06:06
crimsuntalios: fancy seeing you here.06:06
cafuego!find apxs206:07
adwaithey ppl........i am going to a friends place to install ubuntu on XP machine......anything i need to know? (havent used XP much)06:07
Razor-Xtalios: nope, you need the apache-dev06:07
tomchukSpecialBuddy: do you have all the white selected?06:07
talioshey crimsun :)06:07
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'apxs2' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/apxs2) in devel/apache2-prefork-dev,devel/apache2-threaded-dev.06:07
Razor-Xadwait: a lot06:07
adwaitrazor-x: like? any urls?06:07
cafuegothere you go06:07
Razor-XNTFS is the bitch of all bitches06:07
Razor-Xare you resizing XP, or wiping it?06:07
Razor-Xor installing on a seperate drive? ;)06:07
adwaitinstalling on a diff partition (or maybe a separate drive)06:07
SpecialBuddyyeah but it's not showing the checkboard under it06:08
Razor-Xthe latter is best, because resizing XP is a total bitch06:08
talioscafuego, already have apache2-prefork-dev installed, but no apxs ;(06:08
tomchukSpecialBuddy: go to layer -> add alpha channel06:08
adwaitnaah he recently formatted, so he has left free space for linux06:08
cafuegotalios: /usr/bin/apxs206:08
Razor-Xadwait: oh, that's cool ;)06:08
tomchukSpecialBuddy: then ctrl-K to delete the selection06:08
taliosahh apxs2 :)06:09
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Razor-Xas long as he left free space unpartitioned, it's fine, but I had a hellish time getting my XP to cooperate06:09
SpecialBuddyadd alpha channel?06:09
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mavenE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)06:09
ray_anybody use an stivirus program?06:09
tomchukSpecialBuddy: yup06:09
adwaitrazor-x: last time he tried installing, he got FC3 to install, but just couldnt bring grub up...and when he did, it just crashed...so he couldnt boot into linux06:09
mavenerror happen06:09
ray_antivirus sorry06:09
kakaltohas anyone here got bf1942 working on cvscedega?06:09
SpecialBuddyI don't see it06:09
Razor-Xadwait: does he have a special drive setup?06:09
Razor-Xor do you know the magic of all that?06:09
adwaitrazor-x: whr should i install grub? MBR or first sector?06:09
mavenpostfix & at and so on happens error06:09
tomchukSpecialBuddy: sorry it's layer -> transparecy -> add alpha channel06:09
Razor-Xdo it on the MBR, adwait06:09
mavencan someone help me06:09
ray_anybody use an antivirus program?06:09
Razor-Xmake sure to do it there06:10
mavennobody use antivirus program06:10
adwaitrazor-x: an 80 GB HD with XP and a slave hard disk....dunno which one i am going to install on....06:10
Razor-Xand then, make note of the partition XP inhabits, and the partition Ubuntu habits06:10
Razor-Xdo it on the slave06:10
Razor-Xand, just in case06:10
bystanderray_: unless you have a server feeding mail to windows boxes etc06:10
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Razor-Xtake SystemRescueCD with you06:10
ray_bystander, oh yeah ....thanks alot06:10
Razor-Xyou can never go wrong with that thing, it's helped me brign back dead harddrives from the grave ;)06:10
lamontmaven: what's above the suporcess error?06:11
adwaitrazor-x: havent burnt tht........byt ooh well, he probably has the XP cd06:11
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nalioth_zZzZzZzRazor-X: systemrescuecd?06:11
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nathan__Man - I've tried everything!06:11
Razor-Xadwait: System Rescue CD comes with a nice bootmanager a little more compatible than GRUB06:11
Razor-Xnalioth_zZzZzZz: yeahp06:11
nathan__I re-installed apt, but I'm still unable to connect06:11
nathan__and I was so sold on APT!!06:11
SpecialBuddythanks tom06:11
SpecialBuddyfigured it out06:12
nalioth_zZzZzZzRazor-X: for x86, right?06:12
adwaitrazor-x: hmm....well i gotta do this today, besides i my day time downloads are limited so cant really help it now, gonna take a risk :)06:12
nathan__I checked the forums too. :(06:12
Razor-Xnalioth_zZzZzZz: yeah, I don't have much experience with PPC06:12
nathan__I need an expert-hotline!06:12
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Razor-Xadwait: good luck ;) but, always keep that in your toolbox henceforth06:12
Razor-XI never leave home without it (TM)06:12
nalioth_zZzZzZzRazor-X: don't stir too much trouble, now06:12
Razor-Xnalioth_zZzZzZz: you mean, infringement?06:13
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adwaitrazor-x: right...but wht abt grub, will it work fine with the XP bootloader, or do i do somethin special?06:13
yonili remember there is an application that helps you set the startup applications (stuff in init.d), what's it called ?06:13
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cafuegoyonil: rcconf / update-rc.d06:13
Razor-Xadwait: if you install GRUB to MBR, all should work fine06:13
freddywhen i try to mount /dev/sda2 the system hangs =/06:14
Razor-XGRUB should autodetect the XP partition, and add it's entry to the GRUB boot menu06:14
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Razor-Xbut, just in case.... yeah ;)06:14
adwaitrazor-x: right....well best of luck to me :), and ill be back here if there are any problems :)06:14
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Razor-Xbefore I did mine, I made sure I knew about 30% of the GRUB docs by heart06:14
punkrockguy318how do i set the debian sensible browser?06:14
tomchuknathan__: you're timing out at a proxy right?06:15
Razor-Xand had that which I needed printed, handy, since I had to do my install uber-quick06:15
Razor-Xelse risk my dad's wrath06:15
mavenwhere are java developers06:15
freddy_how do i know wich partition is wich sda?06:15
Razor-Xmaven: in #java, or #java-dev , i'm guessing06:15
Razor-Xfreddy_: first SCSI drive, generally06:16
freddy_im looking for my thrid partition that its pure data...and i dont know where is it06:16
talios!find apr.h06:16
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adwaitfreddy_:fdisk -l06:16
Razor-Xor that, ;)06:16
yonilcafuego, thanks that works06:16
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adwaithey off topic question: do u guys get the exact speed promised by the ISP whr u live? i live in india, I hv a 256 KBps connection......but i actually get around 200 lbps06:17
tomchukadwait: very rarely do i get advertised speed06:18
sproingiehow do you measure it?06:18
adwaituse one ofthe online tests06:18
HrdwrBoBI get 1.5Mbit06:18
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adwaithrdwrbob: how much is the promised speeD?06:18
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bystanderadwait: you never get the full speed - for instance a 56k modem never delivers 56k (except maybe in a short burst)06:19
sproingieftp and http download and tcp itself has overhead06:19
Quest-MasterHindi and Urdu Ubuntu users-- #ubuntu-hi and #ubuntu-ur :)06:19
adwaitbystander: yeah..but i thought it would be different with an ADSL connection06:19
lampshadeso yeah, I have two sound cards, one onboard nforce sound, and the other a sound blaster card.  I think Ubuntu picked them both up, but which do you recommend?06:19
lampshadeis one alsa and one oss?  Is ALSA better than OSS?06:20
tomchukadwait: depends on the company and infrastructure - I regulary got 6K+ with my 6K account with Telus in Canada06:20
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sproingiei have 10 megabit cable, but i rarely expect any download to match that06:21
adwaithmm..i thought it was only in india tht this happened :)06:21
freddy_there is no plugin to handle mp3? wtf?06:21
bystanderadwait: no, it happens everywhere, if it's any consolation ;)06:22
IceDC571i wonder why everyone still listens to mp3s06:22
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FlannelKingbecause not everyone is an audiophile06:22
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Davey|Homewhats better, VNC or Remote X?06:22
adwaiticedc571: thn wht to listen to? ogg?06:22
bystanderfreddy_: sure there is - gstreamer0.8-mad for totem or rhythmbox, or just install beep-media-player or xmms06:23
IceDC571adwait: listen to nothing06:23
adwaiticedc571: aah.......:p no music......:'(06:23
FlannelKingbut yes, adwait, audiophiles listen to ogg06:23
IceDC571i listen to flac06:23
IceDC571im horrible06:23
bystanderogg is actually better than mp3 IMHO06:23
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sproingieaudiophiles listen to lossless06:24
syndsmoke time06:24
tomchuksproingie: audiophiles listen to vinyl ;)06:24
IceDC571i dont have anything to smoke :(06:24
adwaitlossless: hard to find/download....ogg: not very widely used06:24
freddy_any player for videos that you recommend that will play avi? cause from totem i only get "cant play"06:24
syndaudiofiles dont download music06:24
IceDC571thats true06:25
syndif they do listen to electronic music.. it is ripped lossless though06:25
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syndby themselves06:25
sproingieaudiophile is usually something of a vague insult in my book, something you throw around at people who buy "oxygen free copper" speaker wires06:25
syndoh no06:25
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IceDC571its funny when i listen with my friends.. i could care less about what quality the music is06:25
IceDC571but when im with myself.. i cant stand anything else but lossless06:26
syndan audiophile spends 10,000$ on wires alone : p06:26
sproingiethere's an amazing market in bilking the superstitious audiophile crowd with "high end" audio products06:26
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tomchuksproingie: and run a $30 magic marker along the edges of their CDs to make the bits sound warmenr06:26
freddy_oh boy, no sound....06:26
freddy_this is not good06:26
sproingielike special stones you place around the room and discs you put on the walls and stuff06:26
jeavisI need help!06:26
jayparadisehas anyone had this cd/dvd error : unable to mount , unknown filesystem 'sysfs'06:26
FlannelKinglike ear buds06:26
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jayparadisethink its sysfs, something simaler06:26
syndwell you get what you pay for.06:26
adwaithence we can conclude: audiophiles hv too much money to waste ;d06:26
sproingiei look at that stuff and think "why did i have to be so honest?"06:27
freddy_now where to check if the sound is right...cause it is obvious that is not right06:27
Razor-Xhmmm... anyone familiar with LaTeX here?06:27
ivanis there a transcode package for ubuntu?>06:27
Razor-Xor more specifically, \product?06:27
cafuego think it's an error, maybe not.06:27
IceDC571i wish i could rm -rf /* myself06:27
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sproingiei could have developed my skills and sold special painted sticks for $5000 a pop06:27
freddy_xmms gave me an error when trying to play an mp306:27
sproingieif i had the sociopathic tendency to lie that easily06:27
jayparadisei cant do anything with cds or dvds on ubunto right now because its thinking its a subfs06:27
freddy_check that your sound is not blocked06:27
Razor-Xsproingie: and I wouldn't have bought it06:27
synda pair of Martin Logan electrostatic speakers being pwered by Krell amplifiers... is an experience06:27
sproingieRazor-X: but so many people would have06:27
jbroomeor you can drive around in a white van and sell speakers. :)06:27
ubotuVagueness makes the baby jesus cry!06:27
sproingieRazor-X: so many people do06:27
jbroomesynd: agreed06:27
bystanderfreddy_: enable the esound output plugin in options/prefs06:28
Razor-Xsproingie: i'll have the satisfaction of bleating that I would not buy it ;)06:28
tomchukivan: try the marillat repo06:28
jayparadisedoes anyone know how to change dvd/cd filesystem back to iso9*06:28
Burgundaviatomchuk, please don't recommend the marilliat repo. hoary-extras is better06:28
freddy_bystander, same thing, i think is a global error...cause i cant get the system sounds either06:28
IceDC571ive had nothing but trouble with marilliat06:28
Burgundaviaivan, try the hoary-extras repo from the backports project06:28
jayparadisei think vmware screwed it up06:28
sproingiejames randi occasionally does a good skewering of a "mystical audio equipment" seller every few columns06:29
syndmarilliat and backports are touble06:29
jayparadisewhats randi?06:29
IceDC571backports isnt that bad06:29
tomchukBurgundavia: sorry, never used either of them06:29
Razor-XI have marillat _and_ backports ;)06:29
bystanderfreddy_: try changing the plugin to oss and then do "killall esd" and see if it works...06:29
BurgundaviaRazor-X, backports != hoary-extras06:29
syndRazor-X: brave one, you are : )06:29
jayparadiseim new to ubuntu and fairly new to linux06:29
Razor-Xsynd: my system is sound, is it not? ;)06:29
IceDC571jayparadise: welcome back!06:29
syndRazor-X: indeed!06:30
Razor-XBurgundavia: i'll add hoary-extras then06:30
Razor-Xwhere's that at?06:30
BurgundaviaRazor-X, same servers. hoary-extras ~ marilliat06:30
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jayparadisethanks for the greeting, 4 some reason my gateway has been acting up06:30
freddy_bystander, my sound is not working in general, not working with the system06:30
freddy_its integrated sound06:30
freddy_no soundcard.06:31
bystanderfreddy_: perhaps it isn't supported? have you tried googling the chipset with "linux' ?06:31
adwaityeah....or maybe drivers are a problem06:31
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jayparadisethe gateway gets disconnected at random intervals sometimes more than once in 10 minutes but usually like every hour06:32
hondjeOr maybe your ears are broken06:32
adwaitgenerally integrated chips work with generic drivers.......try06:32
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tomchukfreddy_: what does06:32
jayparadiseim thinking it has to do with the dhcp lease06:32
tomchuklspci| grep audio06:32
IceDC571your ears need the latest alsa!06:32
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TokenBadis there a way in ps to see all active stuff meaning for my account plus other user accounts on the system?06:32
freddy_tomchuk, shows nada06:33
bystanderheheh - "My music sounds horrible!" "Maybe you're playing country music?"06:33
jayparadisedamn i wihs i oculd figure out my 2 problems, especialy the cd/dvd one06:33
quamtokenbad: ps -ax06:33
tomchukfreddy_: you have the sound enabled in the BIOS?06:33
freddy_tomchuk, yup, works in the windows06:34
jayparadisewhats the u for in ps? is it processes owned/started by the user or displays user06:34
tomchukfreddy_: motherboard chipset?06:34
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IceDC571intel is evil06:34
tomchukfreddy_: reced mobo or old one?06:35
jeavisHow I can install jdk06:35
freddy_bought it like 2 weeks ago06:35
Razor-Xso, is anyone here familiar with LaTeX?06:35
FlannelKingu is for the 'user oriented' format06:35
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FlannelKingman ps06:35
IceDC571actually intel makes good mobos06:35
freddy_tomchuk, bought it like 2 weeks ago06:35
Razor-XIceDC571: not as good as the PPC, by far06:35
FlannelKingAlthough, you can also specify a user06:35
tomchukfreddy_: hmm06:35
adwaitrazor-x: sure......easy to use..they don't tear easily too06:35
IceDC571im using an intel p4 1.7 one of those old model huge chips.. the williamette06:35
Razor-Xadwait: XD, note the capitalization06:36
jayparadisethats allright, too much learning to do to fit that in i'll just use ps aux :-)06:36
Razor-XIceDC571: "Old Model" ? Your model is better than mine06:36
tomchukfreddy_: do you see anything that resembles a multimedia or audio controler in lspci -vv06:36
Razor-Xjayparadise: just remember, ps -e is best for grepping ;)06:36
IceDC571Razor-X: whats yours?06:36
Razor-XIceDC571: P4 1.606:36
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IceDC571IceDC571: not bad.. im using socket 473 though06:37
IceDC571or whatever that strange socket is that is discontinued06:37
freddy_any video player you guys recommend?06:37
freddy_0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definiti on Audio Controller (rev 03)06:37
freddy_thats what i see06:37
Razor-Xfreddy_: VLC06:38
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freddy_i dont see it on Add or Remove Applications06:38
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jasmuzfreddy_: mplayer or xine06:39
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Razor-Xfreddy_: ....... you have to get it from apt-get06:39
murphybig quick problem:  I am trying to change the owner of a mounted drive06:39
Razor-Xor aptitude, if you'recool ;)06:39
Razor-X*you're cool06:39
adwaitmurphy: unmount drive and remount with diff owner06:40
murphyand I enter this:  sudo chown murphy /media/hdb506:40
adwaitalternatively edit /etc/fstab06:40
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murphyAnd I get this: chown: changing ownership of `/media/hdb5': Read-only file system06:40
murphybut it doesn't change06:40
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adwaitmurphy: u cant change using chown......ull hv to unmount and remount of change fstab and remount06:40
Specready only file system means you can't write to it06:40
Specor mount -o remount -o rw /media/hdb506:41
freddy_mount -o uid=1000 /whateveryouwant/tomount /wherever/youwant06:41
Speci'm not sure if that'll work though06:41
murphyhmm, Whan configs must I change in fstab in order to mount under my user?06:41
murphyoh ok!06:41
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tomchukfreddy_: are your mixers turned up?06:41
Spec'noatuo,ro,user' for options06:42
freddy_Razor-X, apt-get install vlc...shows me that it couldnt find that package06:42
adwaitfreddy: universe/multiverse enabled? anyway.......try searching on the debian site and download all the dependencies as welll06:42
bystanderadwait: erm - that's very bad advice06:43
Razor-Xfreddy_: what adwait said06:43
freddy_tomchuk, yes06:43
bystanderNOT on a Debian site!06:43
Razor-Xexcept the latter part, ;)06:43
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chad my volume at 100% is nowhere near as loud as it should be.. is there a way to solve this?06:43
freddy_oh my god, i thought that i shouldnt worry about dependencies on a debian based distro :(06:43
jasmuzchad: run alsamixergui06:44
adwaitbystander: well the ubuntu firefox version has a built ine search for debian site.......so i figured its fine06:44
bystanderfreddy_: that's right06:44
murphyWhat part of this do I change in order to mount under the user Murphy?06:44
murphy/dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 006:44
freddy_but this guy said i had to go and look for the dependecies06:44
chadjasmuz: ran the term version.. volume is all the way up06:44
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bystanderadwait: well, it isn't: debian is out of sync with ubuntu ATM06:44
freddy_and..any tip on where i can enable this universe thingy?06:44
ubotuit has been said that repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:44
bystanderfreddy_: read ubotu's URL06:45
jasmuzchad, did you check the other volumes in PCM and MASTER?06:45
adwaitbystander: k06:45
murphyis it ro,?06:45
IceDC571how do i get aptitude to ignore an update? hmm..06:45
murphyor user?06:45
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chadjasmuz: yep.. full blast :)06:46
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jasmuzchad: that is odd06:46
Razor-Xtalios: i'm doing something waaay more frustrating06:46
adwaitmurphy: uid=murphy06:47
Razor-Xmother fscking... f&g... *curses smoothly*06:47
EruditeHermithi, is the rt2500 driver included in the modules extension package in universe?06:47
murphybut where in that line in my fstab?06:47
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IceDC571Razor-X: there are kids in here, please curse more06:47
josh42Is there a way to set the dpi on 1600x1200.. the default font is rendering too small06:47
taliosRazor-X, heh.  we was supposedly doing a production release of our app today, till someone said "hey, on some pages theres a unicode messup", which only happens on apache fronted installs.  gah.06:47
Razor-XIceDC571: ahhh, i'm a kid ;)06:47
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Razor-Xcompared to you, most probably06:48
murphyMe to06:48
adwaitmurphy: no wait.....i think uid uses numbers.....06:48
bystanderyes, think of the children! *g806:48
IceDC571Razor-X: how old?06:48
SpecialBuddyis there a way to make kubuntu look like windows06:48
murphyahh, enough06:48
goryoguys ... i was here earlier .. can you help me join a domain in win2003 using ubuntu ?06:48
Razor-Xtalios: i'm trying to find a function that is 0 at x_{j} and 1 at x_{i} which is a polynomial function of dgree n-1 ;)06:48
Razor-XIceDC571: 1506:48
IceDC571SpecialBuddy: i know how to make gnome look like windows but not sure about kde06:48
bystanderSpecialBuddy: eww06:48
murphyso, do I change ro, to murphy?06:48
taliosRazor-X, ok - you win :)06:48
murphyor what?06:48
SpecialBuddyhow do you make gnome look like it06:48
adwaitspecialbuddy: i had heard of this thing called xpde06:49
taliosSilverXP theme :)06:49
adwaitits an environment to make linux looks like win XP....but never got it06:49
Razor-Xtalios: saddest part is, i'm doing it for my own practice06:49
IceDC571wait what is that art gnome site?06:49
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taliosRazor-X, freak :)06:49
josh42xpde was a window manager, I think.. not a theme06:49
tomchukIceDC571: gnome is migrating stuff and servers are down06:50
adwaiti bleieve its a complete desktop environment like gnome or KDE06:50
goryocan any1 teach me how to log-in to a windows domain using ubuntu ?06:50
taliosjosh42, yep - written in Kylix ( delphi for linux ) from memory06:50
IceDC571kde is in legal trouble :)06:50
punkrockguy318IceDC571, why?06:50
jasmuzIceDC571: cuz of Qt, right?06:50
Razor-Xtalios: and to boot, i'm 15 ;)06:50
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Razor-Xif you haven't guessed, i'm hoping to be a math major06:50
taliosRazor-X, bah - now I feel really old again ;p06:51
josh42talios; They did an admirable job, I thought.. good way to install linux on a winDozer's machine ;)06:51
IceDC571goto any project page that relates to kde like http://kopete.kde.org06:51
Razor-Xtalios: no problem ;)06:51
Razor-Xregardless, this problem's baffling me....06:51
adwaitwow u guys are all really young and much more knowledgeable than me!!! i am 19 :p06:51
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josh42IceDC571; Did you read that page fully?06:51
sobersabrei'm using a notebook. i use wired ( eth1 ) connection with dhcp at work and wireless (eth0) without dhcp at home. I want the machine to discover automatically where it is, and to connect to the network. how do i achieve this ?06:52
lampshadehaha, ok, whos up for a good sound problem?06:52
Razor-XI know next-to-nothing about Polynomial Functions...06:52
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nathan__I re-installed.06:52
nathan__That was fast eh?06:52
freddy_adding repositories is the bomb06:52
IceDC571josh42: yep.. i wish they would pull those pages off they are annoying06:52
Razor-Xhandling them, rather, the form of a Polynomial function is obvious... *frowns*06:52
goryocan any1 help me regarding samba ?06:52
nathan__I think installing Kubuntu via APT screwed me up somehow06:52
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adwaitrazor-x: hmm....whts the degree?06:52
josh42IceDC571; But, if you read it, then why do you say KDE is in legal trouble?06:52
sobersabregoryo, no. unless you ask a question06:52
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Razor-XIceDC571: free software in general is in legal trouble06:53
goryoi was asking since 15 mins ago06:53
goryohad no reply06:53
nathan__Anyway, Gnome is fine, I have 1600x1200 on a 19" and I can go to bed in peace now.06:53
IceDC571yeah i guess so06:53
adwaityeah because of the trusted computing thing right?06:53
sobersabregoryo, look.. i wasn't here then.06:53
goryook thnx ..06:53
nathan__I love Linux, I love Ubuntu, I love APT- SIGH!06:53
IceDC571w32codecs is a good example06:53
IceDC571i love aptitude06:53
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goryosobersabre: i need to join a win2003 domain .. how do i do it using ubuntu ?06:53
sobersabrei love my bride.06:53
IceDC571i love my imaginary girlfriend06:54
goryodont know much 'bout linux system still .. i'm still the young apprentice06:54
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gtnAnyone know where System->Preferneces->Screen Resolution gets it's drop down menu options? I'm trying to set up 1024x768 on my laptop -- I've defined it as a modeline in /etc/x11/xorg.conf and listed it as the only valid mode for my monitor but I can still only chose between 800x600 and 640x480.06:54
sobersabregoryo, you need to be running a ldap. it is not very trivial.06:54
goryoaha ... ok ... let me get back to you .. i wanna try that on my own ..06:54
goryotnx sobersabre.06:54
josh42gtn; did you run one of the xconfigs?06:54
adwaitgtn: if i remember correctly u need to edit the file in 2-3 places.....scroll down06:54
sobersabreIceDC571, and on that I prefer to remain silent. ( if my bride discovers my imaginery gf... hmmm)06:54
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sobersabregoryo, you need to be in the situation, when you know how ldap works and how to control it.06:55
sobersabrethen what you say to samba - that its auth. is ldap named your win2003 server..06:55
gtnjosh42 Yeah, I defined the modeline, my horizontal and vertical refresh in the Monitor section and then in the display subsection in the screen section06:56
sobersabreIceDC571, it is a joke...06:56
IceDC571sobersabre: im very slow, appearently06:57
gtnI'll try reconfiguring again06:57
adwaitgtn: hv u changed for every depth?06:57
sobersabreso... is there a util that automates network discovery with laptop.06:57
murphyit's NTFS06:57
gtnadwait yeah, and then to make sure I commented out every depth but 16 and put 16 as the default06:57
gtnadwait so I'm not sure where it is coming up with the 800x600 I'm running now06:57
sobersabreIceDC571, it is 8:00 am in here... what's the time at where you are ... ?06:58
jasmuzguys take care06:58
sobersabreciao jasmus...06:58
jayparadiseyou know whats odd, i can launch gui apps from cli as user but not as su06:59
IceDC571sobersabre: 10pm06:59
bystanderjayparadise: that's not odd - that's as it should be06:59
adwaitgtn: hmm.........looking at my own file can't find anything diff..06:59
josh42gtn; that was adwait about the 3 places.. I just run the xconfig apps, and choose my res through a semi-gui page :)06:59
bystanderjayparadise: google "mit magic cookie"06:59
jayparadisei dislike it, how does that offer more security, i have applications that are rendered useless becuase of this; yes applications ....that i cant currently think of.07:00
gtnjosh42 -- which xconfig? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?07:00
Razor-Xnoooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! *in Darth Vade voice*07:00
Razor-XI have to hit something!!! -_-07:00
bystanderjayparadise: use "gksudo "07:00
hondjeHit your neighbors cat with a car07:00
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josh42gtn; trying to look that up right now.. it was through the binary driver howto07:01
jayparadisebystander , i can launch them as user07:01
jayparadisei would need sudo even as root?07:01
gtnjosh42 thanks07:01
bystanderjayparadise: yes, i understood you the first time :)07:01
goryojust read what you typed earlier sobersabre07:01
goryotnx ...07:01
bystanderjayparadise: don't run gui as root07:01
Razor-Xhondje: but that won't find the polynomial function!07:01
bystanderjayparadise: use gksudo07:01
adwaitgtn: actually yeah.........y not just change the res thru GUI07:01
hondjeRazor-X: sudo apt-get install octave07:01
goryosobersabre: i can't say i have working knowledge on LDAP ... but ... i'll see what i can do07:02
Razor-XI already have Maxima ;)07:02
Razor-Xthis is a logic question, I don't think a computer can handle such an abstarct question07:02
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sobersabregoryo, if you want to be able to troubleshoot yourself, and to maintain - you must understand ldap.07:02
gtnadwait the Screen Resolution tool doesn't give me any options except 8x6 and 640x48007:02
sobersabregoryo, I WASN'T here!07:02
sobersabreis there irc chat archives anywhere ?07:02
bystanderjayparadise: why would the X server allow another user to use the same display? Think about it...07:03
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jayparadiseall i can think of is .bashrc or .profile has something preventing it07:03
goryooh ok ... i'll try to read further on LDAP07:03
josh42gtn; I think this was it: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8607:04
adwaitgtn: been there done tht....but tht was with FC3 and the corg.conf was diff for it (somehow......i cant quite remember......but it was much bigger than in ubuntu)07:04
josh42gtn (or xorg, not xfree.. been a while)07:04
bystanderjayparadise: do you want your ~/.Xauthority file to belong toroot and lock you out?07:04
taliosw00t - got resin/apache2 working07:04
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adwaitwell i am gonna go read a nice sidney sheldon for a while and thn help a friend in installing ubuntu.....cya guys07:06
sobersabreguys, need suggestion for an app or a hack: I want not to mess with getting eth0 and eth1 manually at work or home. i want laptop to do this job.07:06
sobersabrehow can i do this ?07:06
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vinuxwoot! it's nice to be back on ubuntu! I did try debian but I think ubuntu is alot nicer.07:06
gtnok, I've reconfigured and will now restart x, cross your fingers.07:06
Razor-Xhondje: you there?07:07
hondjeRazor-X: For some values of "there", yep07:07
Razor-Xhondje: ;)07:08
Razor-Xchange the extension to .tex, if you want to compile the source07:08
Razor-Xthat's what i'm struggling on (well, part of it, I cut of the rest)07:09
hondje404 Error!  The page you were looking for could not be found.07:09
Razor-Xwoops ;)07:10
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ghostboneHi everyone07:11
bur[n] erhi07:11
Razor-Xcheck it now, hondje07:11
josh42vinux: ubuntu /is/ debian ;)07:11
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ghostboneOk quick question from me (never happend before and I'm stumped O_o). Basically I want to use NDISWrapper to install my WPC54G(linksys) it picks it up... However... it doesn't recognise it as a network device O_o07:12
vinuxjosh42, nope07:12
Razor-Xhondje: any advice? (don't solve it)07:12
josh42vinux; sure it is.. just a variation of it. Dont get me wrong; I love ubuntu and cant stand doing a vanilla debian install, but ubuntu is debian07:13
hondjemakes me think of the mobius function07:13
hondjein that 1 or 0 sorta way07:13
hondjethough mobius is -1, 0 or 1 for various other reasons07:13
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vinuxjosh42, I guess I could go with a variation of it. But the goals are different, so that might lead more away from debian in the future07:17
Razor-Xhondje: shhhh!07:18
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Razor-XI don't know the mobius function07:18
Razor-Xit will eventually turn out to be the Lagrange Interpolation Formula07:18
Razor-Xthat's for sure07:18
Razor-Xthing about Spivak is, his problems require no math knowledge, it's all explained in the chapter, logic is the key07:18
josh42vinux; true. I think it would be well-served if the debian dev team got behind ubuntu and helped them towards the goals set out07:18
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vinuxjosh42, I agree. Besides I think ubuntu is still #1 isn't it? :)07:20
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rronkivCan anyone in here hack? if you know how to hack into yahoomail accounts please private message me! i ahve a valid reason and will explain in private.07:21
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hondjeRazor-X: That wasn't shushable :)07:22
KhaBalwhere do you download LAMP from cant find it07:22
hondjesaying mobius doesn't help much at all, though it's a sexy little function07:22
FlannelKingLAMP is a collection of various software (Linux, Apache, MySQL, and PHP), you don't download it as a whole07:23
hondjenumber theorists love that thig07:23
victory747I have a question:  If I add a deb-src line (but not binaries) of debian's unstable to my sources.list, is it searchable with apt-cache?07:23
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syndhow do i reset the sound driver? ever since i put this DVD player in.. the sound playback is a little faster than normal07:23
KhaBalFlannelKing you need all those programs for LAMP?07:24
victory747KhaBal, XAMPP is a very nice easy way to play with it all.07:24
FlannelKingThose programs make up L(inux)A(pache)M(ySQL)P(HP).  You could have a comparable thing not using Linux, or not using MySQL (using BSD, or using PostgreSQL), but yes, that is07:25
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FlannelKingLAMP is just an OS (linux), a http server (apache), a database (MySQL) and then a langage to connect the DB to the server (PHP)07:26
FlannelKingAnd with Ubuntu, you just get all the files, and Ubuntu takes care of all the setup, it's real nice with the apache organization07:27
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FlannelKingIf you google "LAMP Ubuntu" (or something similar) I know youll find a tutorial, since I did just that, a month ago07:28
victory747you just download it, run it, and when you are done, you can just delete it.  And it has mysql set up for you, not need to worry about setting up accounts, etc.  Of course, it's not very secure, either! :)07:28
FlannelKingActually, you can probably just look in the ubuntu forums07:28
victory747but it's good for testing, development, etc.07:28
FlannelKingeither the newbie section, or the server talk07:28
FlannelKingdon't remember which one off the top of my head07:29
rekavictory747: not sure if this will help, but debian packages can be found @ http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages  (afaik though, it's a bad idea to mix debian packages with ubuntu)07:29
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victory747yeah, that's why i only want to do the source.  But I was wondering how to search it.07:31
vinuxack I think they took gnomebaker off the sources for awhile :(07:31
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rekavictory747: there's a source package radio button you can enable in the search07:33
victory747oh, is that symantic or something?07:33
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smackwow lots of people in here.07:34
rekavictory747: no, it's on the webpage linked above...scroll down to "search package directories"07:34
siorfinso does anyone think it is worth having internal agp set to yes for ati cards?07:34
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josh42Ok, now this is starting to bug me alot.. there is nothing that I can see wrong in the Xord.0.log - I have a 9800 pro w/ amd64, and I can not for the life of me get hardware accelleration on07:34
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siorfinthe max fps i was getting with fgl_glxgears was like 10 higher with it set to no using agpgart07:35
victory747oh, ok. Yeah, I know I can search it via the web page.  I was asking about apt-cache, though.07:35
siorfindid you follow the howto?07:35
rekajosh42: how did you install?07:35
josh42siorfin: yes07:35
josh42reka; the binary driver howto07:35
siorfinare you installing the repository driver or the ati.com driver?07:36
josh42siorfin; how do you turn fps on the gear thing07:36
josh42Repository, I think07:36
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siorfinglxgears and fgl_glxgears for testing to see if it works07:36
josh42yes, xorg repository07:36
siorfingo here07:36
rekajosh42: lsmod | grep "fglrx"07:36
smackxorg-driver-fglrx package?07:36
victory747i have another apt-cache question:  how can i have it show version numbers of packages when doing apt-cache search name07:37
victory747apt-cache search -f name is too verbose07:37
josh42smack; yep07:37
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josh42reka:  lsmod | grep "fglrx"07:37
josh42reka - opps, sec07:37
smackapt-cache show package does it I think.07:37
josh42reka; fglrx                 262240  2707:37
victory747but that is also verbose, and is only for one package afaik07:38
rekahmmm, it's loaded07:38
Jujimufuif I want to create a launcher for "logging out", how do I do this?07:38
rekajosh42: and you changed "ati" to "fglrx"?07:38
josh42reka; yeppers07:38
siorfinyou have edited xorg.conf?07:38
Jujimufua custom launcher07:38
rekajosh42: and you've rebooted?07:38
smackjosh42: you shouldn't needs the quotes around fglrx when you grep.  saved you 1/5 of a second. :)07:38
siorfinSection "Device"07:39
siorfinIdentifier "Mobility Radeon 9200"07:39
siorfinDriver "fglrx"07:39
siorfinBusID "PCI:1:0:0"07:39
siorfinshould look something like that?07:39
smackif it's got multiple video outs they'll have different pci numbers too.07:39
rekaJujimufu: where do you want to place it?07:39
josh42hrm.. glxinfo says direct rendering: yes07:39
siorfinalso in the howto it says make sure Load "glx" and Load "dri" are in xorg.conf module section07:39
siorfinif dri is yes then youhave 3d07:39
rekajosh42: then it's enabled :)07:39
siorfinyou are fine07:39
Jujimufuas a gdesklet starter, reka07:40
siorfinglxgears and fgl_glxgears to test07:40
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josh42screensavers and darwinia run like garbage07:40
siorfincould just be your card sucks07:40
rekaJujimufu: ah, gdesklets...can't help you there sorry.  someone else will surely know07:40
josh429800 pro? I hope not :P07:40
siorfinhmm yeah true07:40
Jujimufuoop, thanks anyway : )07:40
siorfindunno what to tell you there, they run fine on my mobility radeon 920007:41
rekajosh42: darwinia a game?07:41
airmikeyi tried reinstalling xserver-xorg....but still cant get back to desktop07:41
siorfinmaybe try installing the new ati drivers07:41
siorfini did tonight using http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495&page=1&pp=1007:41
josh42reka; yeah, it's very breakthrough.. same guys that made uplink07:41
siorfinand i got about a 10% in crease in performance07:41
rekajosh42: b/c usually screensavers aren't the best benchmarking tool.  run a game you've played before and have a look at the fps :)07:41
rekaairmikey: ati or nvidia?07:41
dr_willisRTCW:ET is fun :P07:41
josh42reka; I've not found a 3d game that's smooth yet07:42
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rekaairmikey: what instructions did you follow?07:42
rekato install07:42
siorfinshould try the ati.com drivers07:42
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rekajosh42: hmm, not sure.  maybe try siorfin's suggestion.07:43
airmikeysudo apt-get install xserver-xorg07:43
siorfinhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495&page=1&pp=10, install the repository drivers first then follow instructions here maybe that will help07:43
josh42glxgears seems to run good, but I cant see fps, and my cpu is 100%07:43
josh42Yeah, I am going to try the new driver07:43
siorfinagpgart uses alot of cpu07:43
rekajosh42: i've heard it's a bit more complicated though.  siorfin will probably help you. :)07:43
josh42ANy suggestions on semi-decent benchmarking tools? I cant tell if my cpu is picking up the slack on the gears demo07:44
rekaairmikey: need to do more than that :)07:44
rekaairmikey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowTo07:44
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siorfini upgraded to the ati.com drivers and then blacklisted agpgart and intel_agp then set internalagp yes in xorg.conf07:44
rekajosh42: run glxgears in a terminal and you'll get the FPS07:44
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smacksorry for the joins/parts.. I'm not very talented at this irc thing.07:45
josh42woah.. glxgears: 1697fps07:45
LuakagonHi thank you for being here, I want to find what my screen color depth is set to and I might want to change it, can someone help me?07:45
josh422697, that is07:45
siorfinthats pretty sucky honestly07:45
siorfinmy mobility 9200 gets 148507:45
siorfinradeon 9800 should blow that out of the water07:45
siorfinthat is like 200ish higher07:46
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siorfinconsidering i got a 400+ increase by upgrading a driver that isnt alot07:46
rekasiorfin: he said 2697 :)07:46
siorfinoh lol07:46
josh42yeah, sry :)07:46
siorfinthats better :)07:46
rekajosh42: compare with other 9800pro owners07:46
siorfinwas gonna say07:46
josh42Anyone in here going to fess up? ;)07:46
siorfincheck that thread07:47
smackhey I had a x question if you guys would let me run it by you.07:47
siorfinlots of benchmarks07:47
smackwhen I start up my games like postal/tribes2 it switches my refresh rate to 60hz.07:47
sobersabreWOW you are all corrupt bastards ( with these FPS's )07:48
josh42yeah, closest system specs: 4000fps07:48
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siorfinshould really upgrade your driver to 8.14.13 via the howto i posted earlier07:48
siorfinits pretty easy07:48
LuakagonI am playing a DVD and it's dropping frames, I want to get the best performance that i can, can someone please help me figure out what my color depth is?07:48
siorfinjust run the installer and reboot, your xorg.conf should already be setup07:48
rekaLuakagon: you mean choppy playback?  have you enabled DMA?07:48
siorfini got  10% increase i bet you get atleast that easily on a radeon 9800 pro07:49
josh42Luakagon: Yeah, I bet you DMA is off07:49
smackis it possible to delete the whole Display section of my xorg.conf file and only leave my modelines in for the res/refresh I need? I tried it but my x server wouldn't start.07:49
siorfini got a 11% increase in fgl_glxgears and like 50% increase in glxgears07:49
siorfinwith latest driver07:49
siorfincompared to the repository driver07:50
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josh42Ok, I'm going to run through it07:50
LuakagonI did xine-check expecting this about five times07:50
Luakagonbut its fine now, strange huh?07:50
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josh42nice.. 600KB/s on the driver file.. yay ati :)07:52
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siorfinalso might try adding07:52
siorfin# === Tweaks ===07:52
siorfinOption "AGPMode" "4"07:52
siorfinOption "EnablePageFlip" "on"07:52
siorfinOption "AGPFastWrite" "on"07:52
josh42where at?07:52
siorfinto xorg.conf driver setup, might see an increase might not07:52
siorfini got a little bit more07:52
magogi got some windows enviroments, but theyre not in my sessions list, the ones that arent are oroborus and kahakai, can i add it manually to the list or something?07:53
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rekasmack: yes, you can remove unwanted resolutions.  what error did you get when X failed to start?07:53
siorfinthere are some more tweaks you cando prolly for radeon 9800 but i dont remember all the options, google imo07:53
airmikey256mb is how many kb's ?07:53
Miksi installed KDE "kubuntu" using synaptic...but now i want to remove it....remove all KDE from ubuntu completely...i tried just removing the files i installed "kubuntu-desktop" and "kubuntu-default-setting"...but KDE is still on my sistem....how can i remove it?07:53
josh42siorfin: should I do the xorg? or freex?07:53
siorfinjosh, at the end of that howto link i posted for upgrading to 8.14.13 i posted my xorg.conf, you can see where to post it there07:53
siorfinjust follow the howto i posted, scroll up07:54
rekaairmikey: ~256,000 (i hope i'm right) :)07:54
siorfinyou should select auto and let the setup package decide for you basically07:54
josh42siorfin: should I do the xorg? or freex?07:54
siorfinbut ubuntu uses xorg not xfree just fyi07:54
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josh42siorfin; yours went to xorg, I assume07:55
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siorfinthat should tell you all you need to know :)07:55
Luakagonok bye now07:55
magoganyone have experiance with kahakai in ubuntu? i have all the dependacies than installed from a .deb but its not in my sessions list07:55
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tomchukmagog: kahakai is dead and no longer maintained07:58
magogbut hypothetically it should still work, and its not in my sessions list nor is oroborus which i got off synaptic07:58
Luakagonive never heard of this before.  what is kahakai like?07:59
rekamagog: iirc, you need to edit a file to change your default wm.  i haven't done this myself though.07:59
rekafluxbox users should know08:00
dr_willisthe .xinitrc file can be edited. :P then you can boot to the console and use 'startx'08:00
rekamagog: there you go :)08:00
dr_willisor theres some others.08:01
tomchukmagog: you'd have to create a kahakai.desktop file and add it to your /usr/share/xsessions08:01
magogso tomchuk ty08:01
tomchuklook at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&highlight=e1708:01
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tomchukLuakagon: kahakai was kinda neat - sorta like fluxbox with good scriptability and some toys, but according to the lead dev the code was: "too messy and bloated and was a lost cause"08:03
tomchukmost of the code was inherited from another mostly dead WM named waimea08:03
Luakagono/~baby youre a lost cause08:03
tomchukI think I've got a screenshot lying around somewhere...08:04
maeis there anyway to reset permissions to default state .. i accidentally did a _very_ large borking with chown as root08:04
maeany way besides reinstallation?08:04
LuakagonI hope so08:04
dr_willis"matchbox" is an interesting windowmanager also. :P08:05
josh42mae; personally I'm not sure, but I feel your pain.. there should be a way to have permissions templates08:05
maehmmm :908:06
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maei just screwed my whol system08:06
maei just had finished configuring almost everything too08:07
LuakagonGame over.08:07
maeman this sucks.08:07
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maei get to careless in su sometimes ;(08:08
maetoo *08:09
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josh42Anyone? Installing the new ati drivers: do I want to initialiaze xfree86-dga? (I'm using xorg)08:09
fr500has anyone had network (cable network) problems when interface is under heavy traffic?08:09
Madeyehey, what does this mean "The following packages have been kept back:" ?08:10
josh42fr500; like cable problems how? disconnects?08:10
rekaMadeye: where'd you see it?08:10
fr500josh42, i meant it's not a wireless network, the interface just shuts down, i have to ifup it again08:10
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josh42fr500: yeah, I've had that.. 75% of the time it's heat on the network chip08:11
Madeyereka, after apt-get update && upgrade and thos are the packages acroread libpostproc0 libxvidcore4 mplayer-38608:11
fr500josh42, only happens with ubuntu08:12
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tomchukLuakagon: Found that kahakai screenshot: http://tomchuk.com/images/shots/shot_11-04-03.png featuring the defunct Velocity file manager, the very first release of Beep Media Player, Gimp 2.0.0, etc08:12
josh42fr500; I would still check with a canfan pointed at the chip.. just in case08:12
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learn25hello people ;-)08:12
learn25hello people ;-)08:12
fr500josh42, ok08:13
learn25help please. how to install skype?08:13
Luakagonthat is slightly annoying:/ big screenshot08:13
rekaMadeye: was this from warty to hoary?08:13
learn25is there an apt-get for skype?08:13
josh42tomchuk: nice wm.. lean08:13
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Luakagoncool tomchuk but I don't have a monitor shaped like that :/08:14
tomchukhehe - put three together :)08:14
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tomchukI had 6 at one point08:14
rekatomchuk: nice to see a bmp user.08:14
goofyheadedpunkI just installed Ubuntu on an HP Pavilion N3390 and both the console and X environments had a ~3cm border around the content of the screen and the border of the monitor. The console gap was fixed by using a 1024x784 frame buffer, but I don't know how to fix X or even what to google for. An image is here:  http://img293.echo.cx/img293/3444/sharonlaptopscreengap9qv.jpg Anyone have any idea what's going on?08:14
Dreamer3_what's the best way for linux and windows users to voice chat?08:14
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learn25help please. how to install skype?08:14
Dreamer3_ie, a program tha "just works" with firewalls and such...08:14
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learn25skype is for voice chat08:15
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tomchukreka: I actually wrote the gentoo ebuild for it back in the day08:15
josh42Dreamer3_; Skype08:15
learn25anybody knows how to install Skype?08:15
Dreamer3_josh42: but it's not apt-gettable?08:15
dr_willischeck the ubuntu wiki's yet?08:15
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josh42yeah, or the forum?08:16
syndinstalling ubuntu.. and im getting an error08:16
rekatomchuk: wow.08:16
synd"Couldn't retrieve bsdutils."08:16
tomchukgoofyheadedpunk: try googleing for a modeline for your laptop08:16
josh42Not apt-gettable, no.. I have a tonne repositories, and it's not in there08:16
syndsays it could be due to a network problem or my installation method08:16
syndany help"08:16
Luakagonhmm, I use a laptop, cant get any more monitors or I'd need to get in better shape ;)08:17
Dreamer3_josh42: but i'll work better than netmeeting/gnomemeeting?08:17
Dreamer3_(which almost never work if someone has a firewall)08:17
tomchukgoofyheadedpunk: or if you know the monitors specs go to http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl08:17
fr500josh42, this issue happens even on low traffic08:17
syndnalioth_zZzZzZz: ugh08:17
goofyheadedpunktomchuk: I'll try that and report back.08:17
rekagoofyheadedpunk: this might also be helpful: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolution08:17
Madeyereka,  hoary08:17
goofyheadedpunkreka: Did you mean this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:18
FlannelKingskype: http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype08:18
rekaMadeye: simple google search returned this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/26/2003/10/4/10867308:19
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rekagoofyheadedpunk: yes. sorry.08:20
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FlannelKinglearn25: http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype08:20
jeavishello How I Can Install Java SDK in my Ubuntu08:21
sobersabrejeavis,  do you want to be able to update/upgrade or your installing for NFS share ?08:22
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tomchukjeavis: http://wiki.arslinux.com/Debian#Java_1.508:22
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sobersabre( i mean and then you will have several versions of java )08:22
josh42Dreamer3_; Try it out.. it's designed for regular ppl :)08:22
josh42k, hopefully be right back.. always trepidation on driver install08:23
jeavistomchuk; I need to program some applets and applications08:23
tomchukjeavis: follow the instructions on that page and you'll have a properly set up jdk08:24
jeavistomchuk; thanks08:24
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sobersabrebtw, will make-jpkg work with SDK too ?08:27
sobersabrethe example is JRE08:27
sobersabreand what about the docs ?08:28
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oggeWhen is Xgl gonna be released in a sharp, stable version? What possibilities will it give?08:28
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visorhi guys08:29
MyKq3good morningy08:29
goofyheadedpunkReka, thanks. I'd been systematically forgetting horizsync. Silly me.08:29
goofyheadedpunkvisor: Hi.08:29
rekagoofyheadedpunk: np.  glad you fixed it.08:29
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visorhaha the topic is funny (please dont use breezy yet... really) :P08:30
goofyheadedpunkreka: Me too. Oh man am I ever glad.08:30
rekagoofyheadedpunk: :)08:30
visordo you guys know what thing must be used in order to have access to a cellphone in linux?08:30
tomchuksobersabre, jeavis: crap, those are jre directions, I didn't even look08:30
goofyheadedpunkCan't believe I forgot horizsync for so long though. The crazy things I overlook sometimes. Hehe.08:30
visori have really no idea of that, dmesg says the usual about isdn and usb interfaces08:30
tomchuksobersabre, jeavis: I think there might be a jdk package in hoary-extras08:30
topylivisor: depends on the phone. gammu, gnokii. there's something for siemens phones08:31
visorbut, is there some software or something to control cellphones in linux?08:31
sobersabretomchuk, i don't think.08:31
topylivisor: i use p3nfs to access my phone's file system08:31
sobersabrei think the most robust and working way is to install the package ffrom sun, and update JAVA_HOME,JRE_HOME and PATH.08:31
visortopily: mine is a Motorola E38008:31
tomchuksobersabre: well, anyways I think that make-jpkg will work with the jdk as well08:31
sobersabrebut it is not upgradeable or uninstallable.08:31
topylivisor: see if gammu supports it08:32
sobersabreoh...lemme try08:32
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visortopily: im checking it, thank you very much08:32
SuryeWhat wireless chipset for a 802.11g PCMCIA card is reccomended for high compatibility?08:32
Suryeis ndiswrapper compatible with ubuntu08:33
oggedo you need bluetooth on your phone to access to the cellphone with p3nfs?08:33
alka_trashSurye, yes ndiswrapper works fine08:34
MyKq3hello =] 08:35
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jeavistomchuk; how I can program and compile in emacs in java mode08:35
SuryeAlright, I'll just find a card supported by ndiswrapper then. Thanks08:35
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MyKq3does any  one here know some good find file/folders program for gnome ?08:35
alka_trashSurye: card for desktop or laptop08:35
omerWhich Kernel I have in ubuntu 5.04?08:35
Suryealka_trash: laptop08:35
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ukatoanyone use vsftpd?08:36
tomchukjeavis: I don't use emacs, but try googleing "java emacs" and you'll get a few hits08:36
tomchukukato: yup08:36
alka_trashSurye: check check it out!   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards08:36
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ukatocould you help me :P08:36
omerHow can I know which kernel I have?08:36
ukatotomchuk, can i PM you08:37
rekaomer: uname -r08:37
alka_trashSurye: I would try to get one with native support :)08:37
Suryealka_trash: Perfect! Thank you ^^08:37
omerThank you08:37
rob^during a dist-upgrade to breezy I'm getting a lot of the following http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/296 is this a problem?08:37
rekarob^: you *do* know that breezy is still under development don't you? (read topic)08:38
alka_trashSurye:  I have the netgear WG311v2 and works out of the box08:38
rob^reka, yes, but its a bit hard to write documentation for something when you dont know what it is08:39
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sobersabretrying to use the fakeroot: /home/XXXXX/jdk-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin: line 524: /usr/share/application-registry/java-web-start.applications: Permission denied08:40
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sobersabrewhy ?08:41
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ubuntu/server frigid.wasteland.org08:42
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syndinstalling ubuntu.. and its asking which kernel to isntall.. lunux-386, linux-image-386, or linux-image-2.6.10-5-38608:43
syndwhich to pick?08:43
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robitaillesynd: they are all the same...08:44
lampshadeanyone use python in here with ubuntu?  I just apt-get'ed some wxPython examples and the demo doesn't even run, says it can't import module main.  Ideas?  Apt-get installed this.. I thought it would work08:44
syndrobitaille: alright. guess its a new thing with the new ubuntu cds.. never have came across the before08:44
rekasynd: weird.  i never get that.  you're the 2nd one i've seen ask.08:44
holycowwell, did you install python?08:44
holycowand how did you try to run the demos?08:44
rob^ahuman01, ok just had to wait for it to generate locales.. never mind08:44
holycowand yes, python works fine on debian/ubuntu, why wouldn't it?08:45
rob^stupid xchat08:45
syndreka: im using one of them official ubuntu cds..08:45
robitaillelinux-386 is just a metapackage that points to the latest kernel..currently 2.6.10-508:45
rekasynd: so did i.08:45
lampshadepython comes by default with ubuntu.  I think I know the problem though, I think that because of the debian way of gunzipping certain things, a needed file is gunzipped up08:45
syndive installed ubuntu maybe 10-15 times and never came across this before either : /08:45
rekasynd: well that's gonna confuse some windows users. :)08:45
lampshadeYou know, that thing where like /usr/share/docs are sometimes gunzipped.?08:45
rekasynd: from the same cd?08:45
syndi know!08:45
syndnah, this is the first time i used the official CD08:46
holycowoh right ubuntu team uses python a lot, makes sense08:46
rekasynd: ah.  must be newer ones than.08:46
holycowdid you install wxpython then?08:46
holycowheh, i've never not had wxpy not work on my box08:46
syndreka: it may be cause its got a network connection?08:46
syndits seeing a more recent kernel than the ones on the cd?08:47
rekasynd: probably.  i08:47
reka*'m still on dialup so i skip the network detect08:47
omerln -sf you_linux_source_dir linux08:47
syndahh i see. this is the first time ive done the network detect as well08:48
robitaillesynd:  that's probably it:  you are probably picking up the latest kernel security update08:48
omerWhat I need to write in place of "you_linux_sourc"?08:48
robitaillevia the network08:48
rekasynd: mystery solved. :)08:48
syndreka: yea, i think so too08:50
syndthat ubuntu, a smart fellow08:50
synd: D08:51
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freddy_omfg this distro makes me jizz08:52
freddy_it is so awesome.08:52
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freddy_now, how to figure if i have nvidia installed08:53
freddy_glxgears...damn i cant remember the command08:53
rekafreddy_: glxinfo | grep direct08:54
slylmao, you sound a little bit too excited08:54
freddy_dude im serious08:54
freddy_i found "the" distro08:54
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freddy_i mean, im not serious about jizzing08:54
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Prottiefreddy_: we all have :D08:54
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rekai know i've stopped jumping.08:55
Prottiedebian with graphical browsers etc ;)08:55
KhaBalhow do i install LAMP?08:56
topyliKhaBal: install linux, apache, mysql and perl :)08:57
topylior php08:57
Prottieor php :P08:57
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KhaBalinstall linux? im already on linux08:57
bimberis/perl/php ???08:57
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topylibimberi: it's a choice08:57
slyfreddy_ where you from ?08:57
bimberitopyli: k08:57
KhaBalapache, myql and perl?08:57
KhaBalLinux, Apache, MySQL, PHP08:58
KhaBali think thats all you need08:58
topyliyeah well i guess it's php really08:58
Prottiewhats the hype about mysql actually? why do ppl prefer that over post?08:58
freddy_venezuela sly08:58
Prottieis it better on anything at all?08:58
KhaBaldo you need perl?08:58
gobeavsdoes anyone know of any howto/guide for getting good multimedia support in hoary? Play mp3s, wma, wmv, etc08:58
slynice :)08:58
freddy_sly, does my english sucks THAT bad?08:58
slynot at all , its almost as good as mine if not better08:58
slyand im from england08:59
topyliProttie: it's just fashion08:59
ogge  gobeavs,, apt-get install vlc08:59
bimberiProttie: apparently it's faster - hence better for web based apps on the 'net08:59
rekagobeavs: we can help you out. :)08:59
topyliKhaBal: i don't think you can even install debian/ubuntu without perl08:59
gobeavsreka: ok....you wanna start? :P08:59
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freddy_sly, so how you noticed i wasnt all english? hehe08:59
slyi dont cme across many people that are in linux chans :(08:59
uboturumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:59
KhaBaltopyli: there so many apache files do you need them all?08:59
gobeavsogge: never heard of it.....I'll look into it, thanks08:59
KhaBaltopyli: lol08:59
rekagobeavs: start with ubotu's output link09:00
KhaBalwhats perl the command thing?09:00
oggegobeavs, try it out! you have to be logged in as sudo first.09:00
oggetype sudo su09:00
gobeavsreka? output link?09:00
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topyliKhaBal: just apache, then think what modules you need. google for a lamp tutorial09:00
rekagobeavs: see what ubotu said.09:00
rekagobeavs: or do what ogge said. :)09:00
freddy_sly, i would love to go to england some day :(09:00
KhaBaltopyli: can you just get every module?09:00
freddy_it looks lovely =/09:00
topyliKhaBal: there must be a "install lamp in 10 minutes" howto on the web09:00
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gobeavsI thought you misstyped ubuntu :D09:01
rekaogge: you should recommend just plain sudo.  no need to sudo su09:01
omerHow can I install Java (sun) to firefox?09:01
gobeavsok, I'll try it out ogge09:01
gobeavsi've got su set up, don't like sudo :-P09:01
KhaBalhttp://www.mkaz.com/reference/php/setup_linux.html   ??09:01
topyliKhaBal: it all depends on the application you will be running09:01
oggereka. ok.09:01
oggesudo apt-get install vlc09:01
Prottiesudo su -09:01
gobeavswhat advantage does vlc have over something like mplayer?09:02
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oggevlc plays video and music. plays everything.09:02
oggeover mplayer, I dont know.09:02
oggethey are similar.09:02
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ProttieI use vlc when mplayer have problems and mplayer when vlc have problems.09:02
d-mananyone here use unixshell.com for vps hosting with ubuntu?09:02
topyliKhaBal: the tutorial installs everything from source09:02
slyisnt all that good freddy_ :)09:02
topyliKhaBal: understandable, it's on fedora :)09:03
_root_can anybody helpme to uresolve this error....Caught signal 11.  Server aborting09:03
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oggeWhat you guys think about Xgl? "Next generation graphicshandler for linux"?09:03
gobeavsProttie: ok, thanks....this is why I think Linux isn't ready for primetime :D09:03
gobeavsogge: is that the open-source graphics card? Or somethign else?09:04
gobeavs*related to it09:04
freddy_sly, hells yeah, and i just saw a few pictures of the apple store there.....even an APPLE store looks nice there :P09:04
oggeopen-source openGL I think. Not really sure.09:04
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slyi didnt even knew we got an apple store ;)09:04
rekaogge: OS-dependent?09:04
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oggehope it could fasten up the GUI in linux a bit.09:04
oggereka, dont think so.09:04
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freddy_sly, your missing all the fun, it looks like a museum09:05
Prottiegobeavs: well I am doing the same in macosx :)09:05
Prottiegobeavs: and in windows I am not able to play everything without looking for codecs everywhere...so..09:05
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gobeavsProttie: really? I haven't really found anything WinMedia player 10 won't play09:06
Prottiegobeavs: you need to watch more pr0n man :P09:06
rekagobeavs: divx avis09:06
freddy_karsten, !!! can you show me the screenshot you showed me the other day? in linuxpeach.com? ive been looking for that screenshots for days lol09:06
gobeavsProttie: I think I'll pass :-P09:06
FlannelKingKhaBal, search for LAMP in the ubuntuforums, theres at least two tutorials09:07
freddy_kassetra, i mean09:07
rekagobeavs: quicktime, realmedia09:07
freddy_kassetra, !!! can you show me the screenshot you showed me the other day? in linuxpeach.com? ive been looking for that screenshots for days lol09:07
freddy_jesus who owns linuxpeach.com kassetra or karsten ? hehehe09:07
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slyhmm slight question09:08
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slyhow the hell i remove the update icon out of the notification area ?09:08
rekasly: update :P09:09
freddy_updating LOL09:09
slyi have updated =\09:09
gobeavsreka: fine, it won't play .mov :D09:09
slybut it just greys it out09:09
freddy_update MORE!09:09
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gobeavsso I need quicktime...but I dont run into that that much09:09
gobeavsogge: thanks for the vlc recommendation...worked for an mpg (I know, it isn't the toughest test :D)09:09
freddy_sly, a piece of duck tape works....09:09
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rekasly: do you have anything else you need in the notification area?09:10
slyyeh , gaim azureus, couple other things , and i cant be doing with gaim/azureus constantly open by removing the area09:11
slybut overall its a small annoyance that i can live with =D09:12
rekasly: ah.  yep, was gonna tell you to remove it. :)09:12
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budish76anyone can help me09:12
gobeavswhats your question?09:12
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budish76i would like to open the folder at my partition which last xandros linux installation09:13
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freddy_sly, jesus..im finding it like imposible man09:13
budish76which the home folder09:13
budish76how could i do this on ubuntu?09:13
slyfor what dude ?09:13
freddy_i got an idea....make a square of that size and the color of the menu....and change the icon for that square09:13
freddy_sly, the icon removing09:14
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slyits ok i just banged the notification area to top left of screen on its own09:14
slyas so its out of my way09:14
freddy_any of you guys have an screenshot that i can see? :D09:14
rekabudish76: mount the partition09:15
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freddy_nice sly thanks09:17
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freddy_ok reboot time09:18
slyreboot ?09:18
slywhats that word ?09:18
Deanodriveri'm having issues playing mp3's or videos with any app (totem won't work, neither does XMMS or Music Player), but the sound works fine in apps such as Gaim, anyone got any ideas?09:18
freddy_yes, =/09:19
slyreboot for what ?09:19
IceDC571i wish my friends would really consider switching to linux instead of having a spyware os09:19
IceDC571doesnt gaim os OSS output?09:19
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Deanodrivermine's set to Automatic :P09:19
rekabudish76: keep it in the channel please.  more people can help that way. :)09:19
IceDC571Deanodriver: try to use OSS output for xmms let me know if it works09:19
Deanodriverhow do i set it?09:19
IceDC571its in the preferences09:20
freddy_sly, play CS...in....win*cough*dows09:20
Deanodriverit's already set to OSS09:20
IceDC571try alsa09:20
rekaDeanodriver: change it *from* OSS09:20
slyyou know with a full day of trouble you can get that working =\09:20
DeanodriverCouldn't open audio with ALSA09:20
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budish76reka: thks09:20
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Deanodriveresound seems to work, though09:21
freddy_now brb09:21
IceDC571Deanodriver: thats your problem, alsa is probably broken09:21
Deanodriverstupid onboard sound09:21
Deanodriverworked fine on my other mobo :)09:21
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rekaDeanodriver: no, it's a common problem09:21
Deanodriverput a new board in with a different chipset09:21
rekayep.  everyone has to change the output plugin it seems. :)09:21
Deanodriversound and everything worked beautifully with my old board09:22
Deanodriverbut this one was having major issues09:22
IceDC571Deanodriver: what onboard chipset do you have?09:22
Deanodriverwhat, motherboard chipset?09:22
DeanodriverSiS 741GX :(09:22
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KhaBalwhat files are needed in synaptic to get LAMP working?09:22
Deanodrivertook my old board (which had a VIA KT600) back for warranty, and this was the only one they had in stock09:23
DeanodriverAsus A7S8X-MX09:23
IceDC571yeah SiS for me works half of the time09:23
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holycowspeaking of chipsets, which would be considered the best supported?09:23
Deanodriveri used to get mp3's playing while holding the mouse over the file in nautilus, but even that doesn't seem to work anymore09:23
Deanodriveror via?09:24
holycownot via09:24
Deanodriveralthough you'd think nvidia would be pretty decent09:24
holycowvia are assholes, they support nothing open source09:24
IceDC571they support M$ 64 bit09:24
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Luakagonwell, I don't support anything open source, I just use it.09:24
IceDC571which shouldnt matter to me anymore since im all for linux09:24
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KhaBalwhat files are needed in synaptic to get LAMP working?09:24
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holycowi don't use windows, i dont give a rats ass if it works with it09:25
Deanodriverhave you selected the right repositories KhaBal?09:25
holycowoh wait scratch that via comment09:25
Deanodriveralthough i don't know if it'd matter09:25
holycowits asus that is anty open source09:25
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holycowokay i rememberd my hate09:25
Deanodriveryeah, I don't like Asus either09:25
IceDC571well the last mobo i used was a via supporting amd64, everything worked real nicely in linux09:25
budish76reka: pls explain how to mount partition thks09:25
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Deanodriverbut a working asus is better than a dead Gigabyte, just09:26
IceDC571Deanodriver: i'm impressed you don't like asus09:26
DeanodriverI've never liked Asus09:26
Deanodriverespecially their BIOS's09:26
IceDC571personally i like abit, but i wont go out buying that fatal1ty crap09:26
KhaBalDeanodriver: thats what im asking, whats the right repositories to LAMP? well annd the LAMP files are already in synaptic09:26
holycowasus is fine if your a windows weenie, they are hardcore against open source tho09:26
IceDC571i hate even spelling it09:26
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DeanodriverKhaBal, no idea :)09:27
Deanodriversoon as I get the money, new mobo and CPU :)09:27
rekabudish76: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda09:27
IceDC571what mobo brand are you going to get?09:27
Deanodrivernot sure09:27
DeanodriverI would have gone Gigabyte09:27
Deanodriverbut I've had three die in three months09:27
Deanodriverpossibly Abit09:28
Deanodrivermy last Abit board was excellent09:28
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IceDC571yeah you cant go wrong with an abit, as long as you dont buy their high end crap09:28
IceDC571like the fatal1ty series that comes with fans everywhere, decorations09:28
DeanodriverI once paid $270AUD for an Abit KT7A, and didn't overclock it at all09:28
Deanodriverwith a shitty Duron that cost less than half of that :P09:28
rekabudish76: and paste the output in paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:29
holycowtyan supposedly is supposed to move all their mobos to linux bios at some point09:29
smackopenbios? I doubt it.09:29
holycowonce they do that, i will be looking vey favourably toward them09:29
holycowdoubt it?09:29
holycowi have the presidents interview09:29
smackeventually as in 2020?09:29
holycowtyan developers are on the openbios mailing lists09:29
holycowcontributing daily09:29
IceDC571i forgot about tyan09:29
holycowi don't see where the scepticism is09:29
holycowi'm on the mailing list09:30
DeanodriverI bet there's a majority of Tyan boards in Linux machines09:30
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holycowDeanodriver, so far i've bought mobos on chipsets, and they have ranged all over the place, but never asus09:30
smackI'm skeptical of everything.. who are you?!09:30
smackok well that's interesting.09:30
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Deanodriverholycow, yeah, I've had no problems with the VIA chipsets09:31
holycowsmack, i read an interview with they tyan president over a year ago about t heir move to linux bios on ALL mobos ...09:31
holycow... and signed on the linux bios mailing list to check out the hubub09:31
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holycowtheir devs are on there09:31
IceDC571but does tyan currently make good solid motherboards?09:31
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DeanodriverI'd assume so09:31
smackholycow: like they'd make all their boards linuxbios capable or they'd only put linuxbios on them all?09:31
holycowwhile who knows how long it will take, i see it as an extremely positive quantity of work going on09:31
Deanodriversince they're server boards09:32
holycowwell if i can find the article ... you can read for your self and judge if its just bs09:32
smackI don't really see much advantage except for clustering or something. I heard you can boot faster and update your bios remotely.09:32
Deanodriverso I'll have to reinstall Alsa?09:32
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Adrossanyone here tried cedega?09:33
smackyup I'm running it.09:33
Adrossdoes it run well?09:33
Adrosswhat games do u play on it?09:33
parabolizeAdross: for some games yes09:33
smackI probably shouldn't shoot off at the mouth about linuxbios.. I hardly know anything about it. Sometimes my mouth is faster than my mind. ;)09:34
smackWell I've tried two games on it so far.09:34
smackI've tried warcraft3 frozen throne and GTA San Andreas.09:34
Adrosshow did they go?09:34
holycowhttp://www.linuxforums.org/news/article-22231.html  <-- click on the link in that post09:34
holycowyou tell me09:34
smackthe side scrolling by moving your mouse to the edges of the screen is broken unless you run it in opengl mode.09:34
holycowokay less than a year ago09:34
smackin opengl mode it doesn't want to switch resolutions however.09:35
smackother than that it gets on bnet fine and plays dota which is all I care about.09:35
Adrosswhat about cs and q3?09:35
smacksan andreas runs good but crashes when you try to change display res.09:35
topyliAdross: there's a native linux q309:35
smackQ3 has a native linux version.09:35
Adrosswell i'll be09:35
parabolizequake3? that has linux native code..09:35
Adrosswhere from?09:35
smackftp.idsoftware.com baby09:35
topyliAdross: id software :)09:36
Adrossfree to download?09:36
Adrosswait a minute09:36
Adrosswill i have to lose my pants?09:36
smackyou got to buy the game09:36
topyliAdross: you'll need the windows cd to get the data files09:36
rekasmack: does your refresh rate get stuck on 60hz?09:36
smackyou can get the demo to see how it'd run.09:36
holycowyes, you do haveto loose your pants09:36
Adrosskk, cheers09:36
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Adrossjust thinking about buying cedega09:36
smackreka: you read my post ;D.. it turns to 60Hz when I fire up a game like postal or tribes2.09:37
rekasmack: ah, and have you resolved it?09:37
smacknot yet ;(09:37
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rekasmack: what about q3 and the others?09:37
Adrossand what linux programs can i use to mount an iso?09:37
holycowQ: Is Tyan now working with the Linux community to optimize its products for use with the Linux kernel?09:37
holycowChang: We do a couple of different things, but not so much in the driver field. At the moment, the company is working in the HPC arena developing diskless clusters in large installations, by compressing a bootable version of Linux onto Flash. That is a big job for us, to port all of our systems to a Linux BIOS. Tyan has been working for some time at developing a Linux BIOS for its motherboards. The company will soon switch all of its boards09:37
holycow to having only Linux in the BIOS, for reliability and for quick boot and reboot capabilities.09:37
topyliAdross: mount :)09:38
smackreka: let me try q3 real quick I don't remember.09:38
Adrossyour serious?09:38
Adrossdamn, i looked for a whole weekend09:38
rekasmack: thanks.  i'd be interested as i'm thinking of trying out q309:38
topyliAdross: yes. mount -t loop blah blah something.iso09:38
mikas-o loop09:38
Adrossah well, thanks, see you guys later09:38
topylimikas: yes09:39
mama|SupaSlayintel celeron, win98, 15gb hdrive, 128 ram, 599 mhz. do u think ubuntu would work on my comp?09:39
smackreka: quake3 starts up at 100Hz fine.. hmm.09:39
rekamama|SupaSlay: sure.  you may want to run a more lightweight wm though09:40
holycowmama|SupaSlay, sure, get more ram tho09:40
mama|SupaSlayalright. thnx09:40
holycowmama|SupaSlay, a newer hd would help as well, thats going to be a very slow hd09:40
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holycow600mhz system is still a decent system, with enough ram and a newer hd frankly09:40
rekasmack: well that's good news for me. :)09:41
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biffurtcan anyone here give me a hand with a problem with bittorrent?09:41
smackall my games sort of run like crud now anyways.. sold my 9800pro for the linux switch and I'm on a gef2 64MB right now.09:42
biffurtI've tried using both gnome BT that come with ubuntu, and Azureus - both gave me similar errors when trying to DL a torrent09:42
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smackI know a little about bittorrent.09:42
biffurtSomething about failing to create a directory. Which I'm sure is a permissions issue, but I tried to change permissions on the folder it's DLing to, and that didn't help09:42
biffurtLike, it's trying to create a folder for the torrent but can't.09:43
biffurtand I ran chmod a=wrx on the folder it's downloading the torrents to... which should let azureus make a new directory there, right?09:43
biffurtor am I misunderstanding this.09:44
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smackcan you do a ls -l on the directory and paste the drwx-r-x thing?09:44
topyliif you run azureus as a user, it should be able to write to that user's home directory09:44
biffurtah, ok. I was trying to write to something outside of the home directory. which is probably the problem.09:45
biffurtdrwxr-xr-x    2 root root  4096 2005-06-27 19:29 unsorted09:45
biffurtsmack: that's the line you just asked for, I think09:46
smackyou can read that as you-group-everyone09:46
smackerr I mean owner-group-everyone09:46
smackso root has read write execute and everyone has read and execute but no write ;(09:46
biffurtok. that's the - there, right?09:47
smackyeah there needs to be a w there.09:47
smackor you can change the owner.09:47
biffurtI tried to change that, I thought. I ran "sudo chmod a=wrx ./unsorted"09:47
biffurtthat should change the permissions for all to wrx, right?09:47
biffurtor am I misunderstanding the syntax?09:48
topylibiffurt: just don't put your files in the system space09:48
smackwhere'd you make this directory is it just in /unsorted ?09:48
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biffurtI have a partition to share data between windows and linux09:48
smacktrying to figure out if it'd be best to just make yourself the owner of it.09:48
biffurtIt's in there09:48
biffurtso like /datashare/unsorted09:49
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biffurtI'm keeping all my movies/music/etc in there09:49
smackyou might just do a 'sudo chown biffurt.biffurt unsorted'09:49
metzenso is breezy useable for an advanced user? or is stuff just borked bad?09:49
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topylibiffurt: then either you or the 'users' group should own it09:49
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holycowmetzen, depends on you definition of advanced user09:50
holycowif by advanced user you mean master programmer in 4000 languages, with the familiarity of 16 000 codebases, sure09:50
smacktopyli is prolly right. I'm still a linux noob and don't know how things generally go.09:50
metzenhodgman: lol09:50
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biffurtok. so to change ownership, the format is "chmod user.user filename"09:51
metzenholycow: heh, but seriously though, is it  broken?09:51
holycowchmod -R user.user folder if you need to chmod an entire folder tree09:51
smackI just looked at my users group and I'm not in there by default.09:51
topylimetzen: even if it works today, it may break tomorrow09:51
metzenah indeed09:51
smackI think this is getting too complicated. :)09:51
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holycowmetzen, i'm being an ass, i donno :)09:52
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metzenwhat kind of things usually break?09:52
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biffurtok. lemme try that, holycow09:52
smackif your only going to use it under your user you might just take ownership of it with chown. and leave the permissions as they are.09:52
holycowmetzen, like on debian, pretty much everything09:54
holycowmetzen, get a spare hd on a removable tray, or install vmware and run a version virtually and see09:54
biffurtsmack: using chown, do I need to be in the directory itself or its parent?09:55
biffurtI'm in the parent directory, running sudo chown user.user unsorted, but it's spitting back "No such file or directory"09:55
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biffurtsorry, I know this is all real newbie crap. I just started trying to learn this stuff yesterday.09:55
smackbiffurt: you got to be in it's parent if you don't want to do a full path to the directory.09:56
smackif there are subdirectories in there make sure to use a -R too. ;)09:56
biffurt-R basically means "and everything inside", right?09:57
smackthe -R is for recursion.09:57
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biffurtNow it's saying "changing of ownership 'directory': Operation not permitted09:58
biffurtBut I'm running this from sudo09:58
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smackwierd.. it should allow you to do anything through sudo.09:58
smackis this drive ntfs or fat32?09:58
smackthat should be read/write no problem.09:59
fake64just a option aye09:59
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smackI'm not too familiar with it tho. Did you modify your fstab to mount it or did you issue a mount command?09:59
biffurtNot sure. i set it up when I installed hoary10:00
biffurtI didn't manually edit the fstab, that's for sure.10:00
smackahh so it's prolly in your fstab.10:00
smackcan you do a 'cat /etc/fstab' and look on the line for the hdd.10:00
smackit should say fat32 on the line.10:00
smackI'm wondering if it's got 'ro' in the options.10:01
biffurtsays vfat10:01
biffurtoptions are defaults10:01
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biffurtfigures, nothing ever goes easily with this machine. =P10:02
biffurtat least as far as linux is concerned. ubuntu is the first distro that even came close to working.10:02
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smackI'm having pretty good luck with it so far too. I havn't booted in to windows in a week :)10:02
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han_thats the way to go10:03
biffurtsmall victories, right?10:03
sugoruyohi folks10:03
sugoruyocan someone help with azureus?10:03
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biffurtmaybe, sugoruyo10:03
smackI tried linux on my desktop before and it seemed too clunky. Ubuntu seems pretty decent tho.10:03
biffurtI'm having troule with it myself.10:03
han_windows is so slow on my laptop10:03
sugoruyobiffurt, it just won't run10:03
han_ubuntu is like, so much faster on this laotop10:04
biffurtyeah, same here han_10:04
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slyjust wont run ?10:04
sugoruyoi get it from synaptic10:04
biffurtsugoruyo: how did you install? via apt-get or did you compile it yourself?10:04
smackbiffurt: I know what your problem is!10:04
wizomy ;laptop errr, embaressingly struggles with 2 internet explorers in windows10:04
smackit just occured to me :D10:04
biffurtlay it on me, smack10:04
sugoruyoor through console10:04
sugoruyobut when i run it it won't load10:05
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smackyou have to give the user permission to read the mount I think.10:05
biffurtI have no problem reading it... like, I can see the contents of the drive fine.10:05
biffurtand play files and stuff from it10:05
wizouh huh10:05
smackoh oh.. *goes quiet again*10:05
wizobiffurt, wad are u trying to do?10:06
wizoazereus problem?10:06
biffurttrying to save bt files to a particular folder10:06
slymay i ask the specs of your laptop ?10:06
biffurtand gnome bittorrent10:06
wizooo ic10:06
wizosly, talking to me?10:06
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slyyup yup :)10:06
biffurtBut it won't let me change the owner of the folders10:06
sugoruyoif i try opening a console and running azureus i get a bunch of messages10:06
biffurtlike what, sugoruyo?10:06
sugoruyoshould i paste somewhere?10:07
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wizosugoruyo, paste it at the site in the topic10:07
sugoruyowizo, i know10:07
slyand it struggles to run windows................ that just seems a ram issue..... 128 is nowhere near enough for todays sh***10:08
wizobut linux runs fine on it10:08
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wizoanyway, anyone has any idea how ot like err, set a process to have more processing power? like in windows how u can set it ot a higher priority10:08
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slywith 128ram i wouldnt run anything but fluxbox or icewm at the most10:09
holycowi've run gnome 2.8 fine on 64 megs10:09
wizodoesnt matter, ubuntu runs faster than windows, and thats good enuff for me10:09
wizoim running gnome nwo as well10:10
sugoruyowizo, i did i'm on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/29710:10
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holycowinfact debian sarge loads into 48 megs ram at boot if needed10:10
Craspif i had only 64meg i would deffo stick to windowmaker10:10
holycow128 should be fine to run hoary, don't expect miracles butyou will be okay10:10
wizoanyway, anyone has any idea how ot like err, set a process to have more processing power? like in windows how u can set it ot a higher priority10:10
Craspwizo: renice10:11
Craspwizo: you can set it's "niceness"10:11
Craspwizo: type man renice on a prompt and it will tell you10:11
wizoyeh firing up my console now10:11
sugoruyohow bout xfce?10:11
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wizoim like running mdcrack to contribute to a fellow member`s hash lookup site10:12
wizoand its going kinda slow =s10:12
CraspSoooo: what language is that?10:12
CraspSoooo: it looks japanese10:12
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Soooosorry utf810:12
sugoruyoor chinese10:12
Craspor korean o_O10:13
CraspSoooo: utf-8 is just fine :)10:13
sugoruyonot korean10:13
sugoruyothose are chinese character10:13
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Craspok, if you say so :)10:13
sugoruyofirst one is tree10:13
Craspi have no idea of these languages10:13
sugoruyothe second i can't make out10:13
biffurtsugoruyo: It's working alright saving to the home directory, I'm just gonna stick with that for now10:13
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sugoruyoand the third one is mother+child which i think means to like10:14
biffurtI've got another question though, now that it's managed to create a directory it's giving me the error "Error (the port you are using (6881))"10:14
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biffurtwhich isn't too informative10:14
IceDC571my ipod is working on linux!! yay!!!!!10:15
biffurtanyone have any clue what I can do about that?10:15
sugoruyobiffurt, if i could only get the damn thing started...10:15
biffurtthat's right, I forgot.10:15
biffurtI took a look at that log, unfortunately it all looked like greek to me, sorry =/10:15
biffurti'm just a newb at this stuff10:15
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sugoruyowhat do you mean it all looked greek to u ?  ;-/10:16
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biffurti didn't understand it10:16
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biffurtThe only thing I can think of, looking at it, is that maybe you're missing a library?10:16
sugoruyowell i can ensure it is not greek....10:17
greystreetI am having a problem with running foomatic-gui10:17
sugoruyoi think it's because of the charset10:17
biffurtIt's a figure of speech10:17
qoshow do i see which fireware version my ipw2200 wlan card uses? i want to set it into monitor mode, but that's only supportet in firmware version 1.04... so i try to find out which firmware i use...10:17
sugoruyoi'm using a greek charset being greek and all....10:17
greystreetits telling me I need to import gnomevfs and its trying to use gnome.vfs10:17
greystreetcan someone please tell me how to import gnomevfs10:18
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biffurtyeah. unfortunately I don't have enough experience with this stuff to help you out, sugoruyo10:18
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sugoruyowell if only someone did oh well10:18
wizowads the highest priority for renice?10:18
ukatohas anyone used stratagus before?10:19
greystreetcan someone please tell me how to import gnomevfs10:19
biffurtsugoruyo, you might try posting to the ubuntu forums10:19
wizocrasp: wads the highest priority u can set for a process10:20
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slyanyone do video encoding under ubuntu ?10:20
biffurtgreystreet: if you're just looking for the runtime files, "sudo apt-get libgnomevfs2-0" should work10:20
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biffurtSorry, sudo apt-get install libgnomevfs2-010:21
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greystreetthanx biffurt, but the thing is I used synaptix package manager10:21
greystreetI think installed it already10:21
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biffurtahh, ok. in that case, I've got no advice. I'm real new to this stuff myself =/10:21
biffurtalso, mack, thanks for your help.10:22
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biffurtI've gotta go get some sleep. good night all, and good luck.10:22
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holycowhttp://klik.atekon.de/  <-- hey check this out10:24
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holycowi've never heard of that project10:24
holycowthat looks bot usefull and a wonderfull way to spread spyware10:24
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twb_heeellllloooo everyone10:26
ukatohas anyone used stratagus before?10:26
twb_would it be safe strapping up a tri boot system?/10:27
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twb_Does anyone know if it would safe to run a tri-boot system?10:28
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holycowas many as you want10:28
twb_k thx10:28
ukatoi've heard that's a bad idea10:28
holycowone dude installed something like 200 different os's on one box as an experiment10:28
twb_i have XP/Ubuntu right now but i want to add Debian10:29
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synddamn netsplits10:29
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pepsixthis is a bumpy ride10:29
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twb_whats a good program to dl music for Linux?10:30
nikkiawell, we *were* warned that they were taking 3 of the irc servers offline :)10:30
syndtwb_: gtk-gnutella10:31
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qostry to install the new ipw2200 driver, but when i call "sudo make" it says "make -C /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build SUBDIRS=/home/iface/ipw2200-1.0.4 MODVERDIR=/home/iface/ipw2200-1.0.4 modules"10:31
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syndtwb_: im not too fond of limewire10:31
qos"make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden.  Schluss."10:31
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twb_is there anything accessible through apt-et?10:31
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twb_apt-get or synaptic10:32
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qosis there anyone talking to me?10:32
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qosis there anyone talking to me?10:32
twb_whats with all this jargon ^^^^^10:32
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syndtwb_: apt-get install gtk-gnutella10:32
Craspit's called server shutdowns and netsplits10:32
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twb_synd: and i can dl music??10:33
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syndtwb_: uh, yes10:33
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metzennicotine and amule are decent10:33
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nikkiabittorrent can be good for music too, if you find the right trackers10:34
syndanything but limewire or azureus10:34
ukatono one likes limewire?10:35
syndlimewire is poorly written10:35
synda resource hog10:35
ukatoi've started using bittorrent for music a lot more now10:35
twb_ummm how do i use apt-et?10:35
braddwhat about gift10:36
syndtwb_: sudo apt-get install10:36
twb_in a terminal?10:36
syndnever messed with gift10:36
syndtwb_: yes.10:36
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twb_synd: i got it, now how can i use it?10:38
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syndtwb_: type gtk-gnutella in the console10:39
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syndtwb_: its pretty self explanatory10:39
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twb_and i do this everytime  i want to use it10:40
rasputnikI want to get my head around the whole testing/stable thing (on Hoary) - any definitive docs?10:40
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twb_thx synd10:40
syndtwb_: make a launcher if you want10:41
twb_how do u do that10:41
tiglionabbittwb_: right-click the desktop or somewhere10:41
syndtwb_: you should take a gander at the ubuntu wiki10:41
twb_there a website or console command for that10:42
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syndtwb_: a launcher is comparable to a shortcut in windows10:42
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twb_ahh i see10:42
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rasputnikeither the netsplit just ended, or everyone syncs their alarm clocks :)10:44
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wizzardpls, how do I remove a package without dependency check?10:45
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mypapitattack of the clonse?10:45
mypapitattack of the clone?10:45
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tiglionabbitwizzard: dpkg?10:46
jose__Is there any command that updates the changes in /etc/fstab ?10:46
tiglionabbitjose__: I don't believe you have to do anything after changing fstab10:46
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wizzardbut I need to remove only one package withtou all packages dependent on it10:47
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jose__tiglionabbit, I mean, I wanna see the changes immediately.10:47
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slyanyone fmailier with tovid ?10:49
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HostingGeekbreezy is broken...10:50
tiglionabbitjose__: dunno, man.  You could just mount them yourself..  sorry10:50
syndahhh i love the talking heads10:50
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tiglionabbitsay, I'm new to gnutella.  How comes when I search it the stuff I want to download always says "no sources" ?  I mean, if it found it, wouldn't it have to have at least one source?10:51
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fake64HostingGeek, ?10:51
HostingGeekBTW Linux is probberly breaking this patent  http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/28/2334224&tid=155&tid=1710:51
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jose__tiglionabbit, this is my case: I've just changed the file permisson of mounted device in fstab, and I wanna see it.10:52
fake64HostingGeek, what's name of this patent?10:53
brentdaxIs there a Linux equivalent of "ipconfig /release" and "ipconfig /renew"?10:53
Mirvbrentdax: ifdown eth0, ifup eth0 (or wlan0 or something else)10:53
fake64useless action10:54
tiglionabbitjose__: try "xfce fstab mount manager"10:54
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tiglionabbitnot as a command, I mean the program10:54
HostingGeekfabbione: the you look at A and then look at B and I show you A again patent10:54
HostingGeek* fake6410:54
HostingGeekfake64: aka user history10:55
brentdaxHmm, thanks. although it didn't fix the overall problem.  I can ping anything on my local network, and the outside address of my router (although I'm not sure that's important), but I can't ping anything outside my network.  If I switch to a static IP it starts working.  I'm on an Intel integrated wireless card.10:55
nikkiamirv, i'd suggest just running dhclient personally10:55
brentdax(I'm configuring a new laptop, and typing this on my desktop.)10:55
jose__tiglionabbit, Need I change my WM to xfce?10:57
tiglionabbitjose__: nope, you can run it in gnome10:57
liablebrentdax: what do you want to change?10:57
fake64because gtk is begin ..... hehehehehehehhehhe10:57
oggewhat is priorited in ubuntu, userprograms or backgroundprocesses?10:57
oggewhen it comes to ram10:58
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twb_anyone know where i can get a mp3 plugin?10:58
jose__what's the name of the package?10:59
brentdaxHmm?  I'd like to let the laptop to still be able to contact the outside world when it's working thorugh DHCP.10:59
tiglionabbittwb_: mplayer-mozilla10:59
twb_tthat apt-get?10:59
tiglionabbitor is it mozilla mplayer...   Searh synaptic for mozilla10:59
mjrogge, those that need it10:59
Mirvbrentdax: doesn't that sound a bit like gateway is not set? ie. that all the traffic would go through the router. anyway i'm not an expert in these things10:59
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brentdaxYeah, that's what I was thining when I saw how it was behaving.10:59
nikkiabrent, i'd check that the router's dhcp is correctly reporting the gateway and dns details10:59
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nikkiaalso, my wireless card has a habit of dropping the default route if i ifup/ifdown11:00
liablebrentdax: what does ifconfig say after getting a lease?11:00
tiglionabbityeah, mozilla-mplayer11:00
nikkiaof course, these days i only use dhcp to get an IP long enough to let radvd assign an IPv6 address :P11:01
twb_ahhhhh i cant find it11:01
twb_nothing is coming up11:01
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oggem gosh, firefox is really slow on ubuntu. is there any other good browser (fast)11:01
queuetueI want to sest my serial console connection - can you think of anything "safe" that will generate a log event?11:02
Deanodriveror however you spell it11:02
brentdaxI don't see any mention of a gateway...11:02
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macintoshri need the biggest ubuntu logo i can get11:02
macintoshror a vector11:02
twb_would vdr-plugin-mp3 work?11:03
macintoshri want to make an ubuntu version of this: http://img248.echo.cx/img248/3133/picture17jy.png11:03
macintoshrwhere do i go?11:03
twb_tiglionabbit: would vdr-plugin-mp3 work?11:03
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twb_tiglionabbit: would vdr-plugin-mp3 work?11:04
twb_tiglionabbit: would vdr-plugin-mp3 work?11:04
tiglionabbittwb_: I have no idea what that is.  If you want a web browser plugin, it will start with mozilla-11:04
tiglionabbittwb_: don't repeat yourself11:04
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twb_i just want something so i can play mp3's11:05
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jose__tiglionabbit, what's the name of the package "xfce fstab mount manager"?11:05
oggesudo apt-get install beep-media-player11:05
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tiglionabbitjose__: no idea.  I just got it by installing xfce411:05
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HostingGeekn00b alert!11:06
HostingGeekLinux uses Patemts11:07
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jose__tiglionabbit, okay.11:07
tiglionabbitoh here we go, sorry about the dead links, macintoshr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork11:08
HostingGeekBut of couse its allowed to11:08
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kev0rso why is the new Ubu-y comming out? :D11:08
HostingGeekkev0r: it is out11:10
HostingGeekand its broken11:10
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HostingGeekupgrade all your libs and have a dead system11:10
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tiglionabbitkev0r: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule11:10
tiglionabbitoctober 13th11:11
tiglionabbitHostingGeek: it's not released as stable though11:11
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HostingGeektiglionabbit: it is release as development11:12
HostingGeeka new version get released every second11:13
HostingGeekwith new development11:13
SkywindWhere can I download the ppc64 toolchain and kernels for ubuntu ?11:13
HostingGeekeven if its not submitted yet or brought down to this world11:13
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oggeanyone got konqueror for ubuntu? is it fast?11:14
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tiglionabbitogge: snappy?  o.o  I don't know, I thought nautilus was 'snappy' enough.  I use the terminal =P11:14
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twb_when i install programs from apt-get, what file is it store din?11:15
oggethe browser konqueror11:15
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tiglionabbittwb_: say `dpkg -L` and the name of the thing you installed.  It will tell you where it put the files11:15
anacrontiglionabbit: i assume you use lynx or links2 then?11:15
tiglionabbitlinks2?  No, I use firefox11:15
TokenBadif you have a user online through ssh and you want to kick him off and remove account...how would you kick them off?11:15
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[L|eWiOn] i'm having a big problem on my notebook with ubuntu11:16
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[L|eWiOn] i can't install my hp 1200 network printer11:16
tiglionabbitinteresting question, token.  I don't have a lot of users, so I'd just break their connection.  But I'd like to know the 'right' way of doing that11:16
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TokenBadhow you break their connection?11:17
tiglionabbit=p the stupid way, stop accepting ssh or reroute it11:17
tiglionabbitdon't take my advice11:17
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nikkiatoken, kill -9 the sshd's for that user11:17
kev0rthe hurt!11:17
nikkiatoken, *after* disabling the account, of course11:17
tiglionabbitnikkia: that's awesome11:17
nikkiaif its something you need to do often, you could write a script to disable the account and kick off any connections, wouldn't take long11:18
tiglionabbiturk, this mov is crashing vlc.  How should I watch it?11:18
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TokenBadwhen I do ps -x I don't see their sshd stuff11:18
rasputnikTokenBad: kill his shell11:18
oggemy firefox is crashing quite often,11:18
[L|eWiOn] hey i have a problem too11:18
nikkiatoken, ps -ax11:18
nikkiatoken, as an example, here are the two on my laptop for me:11:19
tiglionabbitTokenbad: ps -u username11:19
nikkia1850 ?        Ss     0:00 sshd: nikki [priv] 11:19
nikkia1857 ?        S      0:00 sshd: nikki@pts/511:19
nikkiatiglionabbit: that won't catch the pre-PTY priv sshd like proc 1850 above11:20
nikkiaas that will be running as your sshd's priv (root, usually)11:20
rasputnikam I right in thinking ubuntu just has supported and universe? what do most people use?11:20
nikkiaif you were writing a script, you'd want to filter on sshd, then pick out of those based on username11:20
tiglionabbitnikkia: it wont?  I was quite sure I did it today and saw those11:20
nikkiatiglionabbit: the pre-PTY sshd runs as root here11:20
TokenBadthanks everyone11:21
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Deanodriverwhich repositories should I add?11:21
[L|eWiOn] no thx for mee i think11:21
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jojo123hi all11:21
tiglionabbitDeanodriver: uncomment the ones in /etc/apt/sources.list11:21
Deanodriverso all of those, no need to add any more?11:21
Deanodrivercool, thanks11:21
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Deanodriveri'm trying to play it safe, last time, I ended up breaking things :P11:22
nikkiatiglionabbit: tbh, i bet you only need to kill the pre-PTY priviledged sshd to drop the connection anyway11:22
TokenBadbah...posted a thing for the screensaver electricsheep and they told me it was cause it was debian based and I was trying to use it in ubuntu and to send a bug report to ubuntu folks11:22
nikkianope, odd, the connection stays11:23
rasputniktglionabbit: what is this line for? 'deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe11:23
twb_is there a way i could put gtk-gnutella in my personal folder?11:23
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tiglionabbittwb_: make a launcher for it11:24
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rasputnikis that patches to the universe ?11:24
twb_i tried making it, but it didnt work..maybe i goofed somewhere?11:24
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tiglionabbitrasputnik: uh, perhaps?11:24
rasputniktiglionabbit: are you guessing, or is it a dumb question ?11:24
johow to scan for channels in tvtime in console?11:25
tiglionabbitI'm guessing.  I have no idea11:25
twb_is there a way i can make a launcher through a terminal?11:25
tiglionabbittvtime!  Oo, that sounds fun, I want to install it11:25
rasputnikah ok ta :)11:25
tiglionabbittwb_: yes.  ln -s theprogram theshortcutname11:26
tiglionabbitto get what you should put in theprogram, say `which` and the program's name11:26
twb_what does the ' ls ' stand for11:27
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rasputniktwb_: 'LiSt'11:29
twb_i did it...but nothing happened11:29
sam_is anybody else having trouble upgrading azureus? i tried loading it with sudo azureus in case it would be related to priorities somehow, but it doesnt help.11:29
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nikkiasam, sudo -s and run it11:29
tiglionabbittwb_: I said ln, as in LiNk11:29
twb_yea, should it be on my desktop?11:30
tiglionabbittwb_: it should create a file by the name you put as the second parameter11:30
rasputniktiglionabbit : I didn't think a gnome shortcut was the same as a symlink11:30
tiglionabbittwb_: only if you put it in your /home/$user/Desktop folder11:30
nikkiarasputnik: its not11:30
tiglionabbitrasputnik: it probably isn't but that doesn't matter11:31
twb_well.....how can i do that?11:31
tiglionabbittwb_: well, where is it now?  Put it in the Desktop folder11:31
tiglionabbituse mv (MoVe)11:31
rasputniktwb_: do you want one on your desktop for clicking, or on the command line?11:31
twb_i want one for clicking11:32
macintosh2hows these?11:32
sam_nikkia, what is sudo -s for?11:32
sam_oh, switch or something?11:32
tiglionabbitsam_: makes a shell environment for super user11:33
tiglionabbitso you can use sudo for multiple commands, instead of just one11:33
nikkiasam, it starts a shell as root11:33
nikkiafor some reason, probably due to the way the 'azureus' shell script works, just sudo'ing azureus doesn't quite work for updating11:34
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nikkiasudo -s then running azureus from that shell *does*11:34
jojo123Anyone's got any experience with Samba?11:34
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Gogello, could anyone recommend an ogg to mp3 converter?11:35
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Brydenn33converting ogg to mp3 isnt good11:36
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Brydenn33ogg and mp3 both take away data differently11:36
ProttieBrydenn33: if you have a mp3-player you have to.11:36
GogProttie: exactly11:36
z|banditohow do you instruct dpkg to leave out a package it's trying to install?  i'm installing and it's hangs the system at python2.4-imaging11:36
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Gogplenty of conversion tools for windows, I'm after a linux one if anyone knows of any ?11:36
Brydenn33yes i understand i'm just saying if you want the "best quality" its better to rip from cd to mp311:36
twb_how can login to be able to move files?11:36
Brydenn33not convert between the both11:37
tiglionabbitGog: well, I bet Audacity would do it, but take a long time.  There are probably other programs around11:37
GogBrydenn33: fair point11:37
jojo123I'm using samba without problem. But an annoying thing happened. I clicked "Connect to server" and typed in the info. Just for fun. Now I have permanent icons for those test-network servers. Impossible to remove.11:37
ProttieBrydenn33: some ppl distribute free music only in ogg :/11:37
Shish[school] oggdec to standard out and mp3enc from standard in should work11:37
tiglionabbittwb_: what?11:37
Brydenn33lol i know Prottie11:37
Gogincreasingly free stuff is in ogg these days11:37
Brydenn33.ogg is better than mp3 in my opinion11:37
twb_im trying to move files but its saying i dont have permission11:37
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ProttieBrydenn33: agreed.11:37
Gogit will be when it's as widley supported ;)11:37
tiglionabbittwb_: you need super user permissions.  Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo11:38
Brydenn33yah .ogg and mp3 will be the top 2 audio formats11:38
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Deanodriveri'd like that11:38
Gogsish: thanks11:38
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Deanodriverbut I believe wma or aac would be up there as well11:38
nikkiagog, sadly, i've yet to find a linux program to rival dBPowerAmp11:38
Brydenn[WU] i hate wma lol11:38
Brydenn[WU] just cuz its microshit11:38
Deanodriverjust packed full of DRM11:38
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jojo123Anyone knows where those network files are located to I can delete them?11:38
tiglionabbittwb_: by default, ubuntu puts your first account in the admin "sudoers" group.  To do things that take permissions, just say `sudo` in front of the command11:38
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Brydenn[WU] i'm about to install " Kubuntu " hehe11:39
Brydenn[WU] i hate gnome11:39
Brydenn[WU] ;)11:39
Brydenn[WU] had to get the KDE version hehe11:39
tiglionabbitBrydenn[WU] : installing kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu, or grabbing a kubuntu cd?11:39
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Brydenn[WU] Kubuntu CD11:39
z|banditois it slower?11:39
jojo123hi parham11:40
parhamis there any human out there?11:40
tiglionabbitBrydenn[WU] : you know, you could just install one of them, and then grab kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop and have the best of both worlds11:40
Brydenn[WU] hehe yah11:40
rasputnikparham: only us robots11:40
Brydenn[WU] but its ok11:40
Brydenn[WU] it's already burned now lol11:40
parhami see11:40
parhamand are you just ubuntu freaky robots?11:40
Brydenn[WU] i think i'm gonna like this channel11:40
Brydenn[WU] i'm totally new to Linux11:40
fake64me too?11:40
Brydenn[WU] been a winhoz junky for too long11:40
z|banditoer more system resource intensive .. ;)11:40
tiglionabbitBrydenn[WU] : then you made the right choice of distros, Ubuntu is a great place to start11:41
parhamokay than i have a question11:41
Brydenn[WU] yah well i had MEPIS to start with11:41
Brydenn[WU] and it pissed me off11:41
Brydenn[WU] so hopefully this one is better hehe11:41
fake64no distro is good distro11:41
parhamhow do i remove an item from GNOME menu in UBUNTU11:41
tiglionabbitBrydenn[WU] : I started off with Red Hat and SuSE.  Oh the bad times I had with those11:41
parhamwhen you right click it no option for removing!!!11:41
Brydenn[WU] haha yah i remember them too way back in the day when i was just curious11:41
Brydenn[WU] now i wanna get more serious about running linux full time11:41
tiglionabbitparham: uhm, I think there's something in the wiki.  You have to go to a special place where you can remove those files.11:42
parhamis there anyone listening to me?!11:42
DeanodriverI used to prefer KDE (I'd used mainly 1.x), until I tried Ubuntu11:42
Deanodrivernow I prefer Gnome11:42
dizzieSerious? :)11:42
jojo123parham: all apps are permanently stored in /usr/share/applications11:42
nikkiaGog, actually, i have an idea....11:42
dizzieI've been using Linux since 1992 :P11:42
Brydenn[WU] well i'm gonna stick with KDE until i know the "ropes"11:42
tiglionabbitjojo123: no, I don't think that's what he wants11:42
Brydenn[WU] lol yah well you're just l33t arent you dizzie hahaha11:42
twb_ok, i gksudo gedit, but stll cant move files....11:42
fake64suse -> redhat -> windoz11:42
jojo123parham: if you want to remove a menu item, but not the program, delete the corresponding file11:42
fake64windows is the best11:42
Brydenn[WU] haha11:42
fake64no package manager11:43
sam_nikkia, it didnt work even when running sudo -s first, then azureus11:43
[L|eWiOn] fuck you11:43
Gognikkia: shoot... :)11:43
Brydenn[WU] Windows is just more highly supported cuz they have more money hahaha11:43
rasputnikjojo123: I think he needs to know what 'the corresponding file' is11:43
[L|eWiOn] no fucking windows here11:43
nikkiasam, hmm, worked for me11:43
dizzieBrydenn[WU] , what so leet about running Linux for 13 years?11:43
KhaBalubuntus the best11:43
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[L|eWiOn] indeed11:43
[L|eWiOn] haha11:43
Brydenn[WU] hmm cuz you're less of a newb? i dunno hehe11:43
twb_why are downloads so slow with gtk-gnutella?11:43
KhaBalthe newbier you are the more you like madrake11:43
fake64suse -> redhat -> mac os -> windows longtime11:43
[L|eWiOn] and ubuntu will be the fast growin linux an conquer the world11:43
parhammmm, okay 1 more to go11:43
jojo123rasputnik, parham: if the application is bum; remove /usr/share/applications/bum.desktop11:44
[L|eWiOn] i'm gonna give away cd's of ubuntu foerever11:44
parhamwhat happens under linux if i istall a program and it does not work, how can i delete everything it has done?11:44
rasputnikjojo123: cheers I'm a command liner myself11:44
twb_why are downloads so slow with gtk-gnutella?11:44
Brydenn[WU] ok guys11:44
Brydenn[WU] i'm gonna go install11:44
rasputnikparham: uninstall it?11:44
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tiglionabbitoh, you are right11:44
Brydenn[WU] i'll be back shortly.. i hope ;)11:44
slytwb_ was you exspecting full speed ?11:44
Brydenn[WU] btw, where is everyone from?11:44
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rasputniktwb_: is'nt gnutella just a shitty protocol11:44
dizzieGood luck Brydenn[WU] 11:44
sly<- Uk11:44
parhamwell lets suppose it does not have an option for uninstall!!!11:44
twb_why cant i have full speed..?11:45
dizzieBrydenn[WU] , /whois <nick> usually tells :)11:45
slycos its a p2p client ?11:45
Brydenn[WU] lol @ dizzie see... you are l33t lmfao11:45
Brydenn[WU] later guys11:45
fake64(isp basta*d will...)11:45
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parhami bette leave it11:46
slyhave you ever been on the phone to customer surport and they reply what is linu x?11:46
nikkiaGog: are you still there? you can convert ogg to mp3 with ffmpeg11:46
fake64mp3 -> ogg11:46
jojo123Anyone knows how to remove desktop icons created with "Connect to Server"? They are all roots property. No idea where those are located (not id Desktop folder)11:46
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jojo123id = in11:47
nikkiafake, no, he wanted ogg to mp3 for putting on a portable audio device11:47
duperhi all11:47
jojo123hi duper11:47
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Deanodrivertrying to update ubuntu, and i've got an error code11:47
DeanodriverErrors were encountered while processing:11:47
Deanodriver /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-gnome-support_1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5_i386.deb11:47
DeanodriverE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)11:47
Gognikkia: I'd left it for now, but I'll give that a try. Thanks11:48
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duperwhen I boot my ubuntu breezy, there is an error message shows: "VFS: can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hda1"11:48
Deanodriverany idea of what's wrong? :)11:48
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duperhow come?11:48
duperIam now using reiserfs for all partitions11:48
jojo123duper: maybe hda1 is a windows partition?11:48
jojo123duper: oh11:48
rasputnikduper: you changed something?11:48
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duperquite right! jojo11:48
dupernop, i just apt-get the kernel from i386 to k7 in order to support my 1G ram11:49
rasputnikduper: has your kernel got reiser support in ?11:49
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duperi think so rasputnik11:49
Deanodriverbut yeah, anyone else having troubles installing firefox-gnome-support?11:50
jojo123duper: easiest way to see whats wrong is to cat /etc/fstab and list the partition table with fdisk to see if they match11:50
rasputnikKhaBal: no files in here11:50
KhaBalrasputnik: lol11:50
duperthx jojo, ill try now11:50
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cspangnome doesn't start anymore11:50
dupereven the sys still boot 100% perfectly, but it did anoise me :)11:50
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cspanwhen i try to log into a gnome session11:51
rasputnikDeanodriver : I install hoary night before last and it was cool11:51
cspany just sits there11:51
Deanodriveri've installed it three times in two nights :P11:51
jojo123duper: i had same problem with msdos partition. gparted showed that the partition was fat but fdisk showed ext311:51
rasputnikDeanodriver : that's not so good11:51
DeanodriverI know11:51
duperfstab seems okey to me11:51
Deanodrivertrying to get this working properly11:51
rasputnikcspan: changed anything?11:51
Deanodriverfirstly it was sound11:51
duperhow you overcome this jojo?11:51
jojo123duper: if fdisk show the wrong type, you can change it in fdisk11:51
cspanrasputnik, i installed kubuntu11:51
Deanodriverand dependency issues when installing apps11:51
cspanbut then i uninstalled it in case it was that11:52
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cspanand still doesnt work11:52
jojo123duper: fdisk /dev/hda11:52
rasputnikcspan: can you get into 'failsafe' from the session menu?11:52
jojo123(or what hdd you use)11:52
cspanrasputnik, no11:52
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jojo123press 'p' to list partition table11:52
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Deanodriverso, does anyone have any ideas? (i added the backports list from ubuntuguide.org)11:52
twb_anyone know how to install Limewire on here?11:53
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parhamlol no partition11:53
duperit shows all partitions in hda are ntfs filesystem11:53
parhami have ideas11:53
parhamwhat is with file-sharing under Ubuntu?11:53
duperhere also mention this, but without a slove11:53
parhamhow do u do that?11:53
cspani can use xfce, and when i try to open a gnome app it takes for ever11:53
cspanor doesn't even start11:53
twb_anyone know how to install Limewire on here?11:53
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stealhow can i emulate my nokia serie 60 on my ubuntu?11:54
tiglionabbittwb_: I believe it mentions that in the unofficial ubuntu guide11:54
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duperhow can i make ubuntu recognize my ntfs partition rightly?11:54
steali need to compile python file11:54
rasputnikduper: it's still booting right?11:54
Deanodrivertwb_, http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire11:54
tiglionabbitduper: it recognizes mine.  What are you doing differently?11:54
duperboot smoothly11:54
jojo123duper: have you installed linux in hda or somewhere else?11:54
duperno, i install all my linux files in hdb11:55
nikkiasteal, i'm not sure there are any symbian emulators for linux, you might have to use wine to run the nokia emulator from the SDK11:55
rasputnikduper: paste your /etc/fstab somewhere - http://rafb.net/paste will do11:55
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dupereven when i install ubuntu, i have unplug my hda phisicaly11:55
jojo123duper: so fdisk /dev/hdb show correct info?11:55
nikkiasteal, there is a page somewhere on doing symbian development on linux, it is probably a good place to start11:55
duperok, ill try11:55
stealnikkia, i haven't windows11:55
duperit shows quite okey jojo11:55
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rasputnikduper: for some reason linux is trying to read hda, and it doesn't sound like it needs to11:56
tiglionabbitduper: if hda is the master hard disk, that isn't a good idea.  Linux needs to be able to install grub to the mbr on the master11:56
nikkiasteal, you don't really *need* windows to run wine11:56
MorphDKI turned on autohinting on my fonts, and now bold fonts doesn't look nice anymore :(11:56
Brammei see that the latest ubuntu snapshot already has alsa 1.0.9, ist here a way of using that package in hoary ?11:56
Deanodriverbut does anyone else have any problems with firefox-gnome support after adding the backport repositories from ubuntuguide?11:56
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stealnikkia, yes but i need microsoft dll right?11:57
nikkiasteal, wine includes most of the base windows dll's using its own built-in methods, if you're lucky, an app will run with those dlls just fine11:57
nikkiasteal, anyway, read: http://gnupoc.sourceforge.net/    it might help11:57
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stealnikkia, i've just tried it11:57
stealnikkia, but i can't install makesis11:57
rasputnikcspan: try runnig the app from a terminal, see if you get any useful error messages11:57
duperhere is my fstab info: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Zt3M5582.html11:58
cspanrasputnik, no error messages at all11:58
cspanit just stays there11:58
stealnikkia, apt give me some error11:58
nikkiasteal, *shrug* you'll have to harass nokia to release a linux dev kit then,  but i wouldn't hold your breath :/11:58
jojo123duper: looks fine11:59
rasputnikduper: hmm, no mention of hda. wonder what else could be reading it? do you have a mention of it in grub.conf/menu.lst?11:59
rasputnikcspan: wierd. this is from under kde is it?11:59
cspanor from under xfce12:00
rasputniksorry ignore me - you already said12:00
duperhere is the fdisk -l info: http://rafb.net/paste/results/biQWpy34.html12:00
cspani tried both12:00
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rasputnikcspan : what app12:00
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cspanbtw, in case it helps, it's on ppc12:00
cspanrasputnik, every gnome app i tried except gnome-network-configuration12:00
rasputnikduper: check your grub config. I reckon that's your problem12:00
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stealnikkia, i'm installing wine and downloading nokia dev for windows thank u very much12:01
jojo123duper: see that fdisk show hdb1 as ID 83? 83 = ext312:01
cspanoh, and the gnome terminal does start after 9 or 10 minutes12:01
xabbu|uhm, I have hade some problem since I installed the lates ubuntu kernel. First my sound stopped working, and now I cannot login to gnome.12:01
rasputnikcspan : it's not a hostname thing is it? i changed my hostname from a terminal yesterday and gnome shat itself12:01
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cspanrasputnik, i didn't change the hostname12:01
jojo123duper: change the ID12:02
cspanBUT, my network works funny12:02
rasputnikcspan: try blowing away your gnome settings: # rm -rf ~/.gnome*12:02
cspanit doesn't start at bootup, i have to start it manually using gnome-network-config12:02
cspanrasputnik, i tried12:02
duperso reiserfs isn't id=83?12:02
cspani even tried removing gnome and reinstalling12:02
Deanodriverisn't ext2 id83?12:02
Deanodriveror linux swap or something12:03
rasputnikcspan: that wont' clear out your .gnome* folders12:03
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MorphDKnobody able to help with my font problem?12:03
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cspanrasputnik, uninstall-purge, but anyway i cleared them manually too12:03
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hussamanybody here using firefox from ubuntubackports? is it stable?12:04
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jojo123duper: sorry, have to leave. got a meeting to attend. good luck12:04
Deanodriverhussam, i keep on getting dependency issues with it12:04
jojo12382 = swap12:04
Deanodriverbut it worked fine on my other system12:04
jojo123fdisk with 'l' will list the known partitions12:04
Deanodriverstupid dodgy asus motherboards12:05
rasputnikcspan: then I think it's a dns thing maybe, especially if your network is screwy12:05
JHKHi there, i want to install captive-ntfs but when i execute the command /usr/share/lufs/prepmod there appears:12:05
JHKFailed to prepare lufs.ko module for your Linux kernel 2.6.10-5-386.12:05
JHKDetected Linux kernel sources "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build" do not appear to  be valid.12:05
cspanrasputnik, any suggestions?12:05
rasputnikcspan: is your hostname in /etc/hosts12:05
cspanill check that12:05
cspani can't right now12:05
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MorphDKWho killed nickserv=12:06
rasputnikcspan: that's all I can think of. gnome has big trouble if it cant' resolve your host, because it can't find ORBit12:06
albackerthe hostname is in /etc/hostname or maybe HOSTNAME12:06
mweJHK, you need the kernel source code12:06
hussamDeanodriver: what dependency issues? I've been using the firefox from mozilla.org but I want to switch to the firefox from ubuntubackports.12:06
rasputnikalbacker: or you can just run 'hostname' :)12:06
DeanodriverErrors were encountered while processing:12:06
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Deanodriver /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-gnome-support_1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5_i386.deb12:06
DeanodriverE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:06
cspanthank you rasputnik !!12:07
JHKmwe, i already installed it12:07
Deanodriverand whenever i try installing anything, it says that it needs mozilla-firefox-gnome-support12:07
rasputnikcspan: wait and see if it helps first :)12:07
cspanuhm, at least you have given me a clue12:07
hussamDeanodriver: oh12:07
cspani didn't know what could possibly be failing12:07
Deanodriverdoes anyone else have any ideas?12:08
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Myrttimy amaroK whines that the device is busy and says it shall use the null output device12:08
mweJHK, well that link needs to point to the kernel source tree12:08
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Myrttihow do I fix that?12:08
mweJHK, ls -ld /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build does that point to the kernel source?12:09
nikkiaMyrtti: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly12:10
JHKmwe, /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-38612:10
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mweJHK, you only have the headers?12:11
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JHKmwe, hmm, no, i also have the linux-source installed12:11
JHKhow should i change it?12:12
nikkiaMyrtti: there is one line in asound.conf that i would add to that, btw.... 'pcm.dsp0 { type plug   slave.pcm "dmix" }'12:12
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JHKmwe, there its unzipped /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.1012:13
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KhaBalwhat  Caldera OpenLinux does ubuntu use?12:13
mweit need to point to the source tree. ln -fns /usr/src/LINUX_SOURCE /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build12:13
KhaBalwhat does the latest ubuntu use?12:13
Deanodriverwhat kernel?12:14
MorphDKKhaBal, ??12:14
Deanodriver2.6.10, i think12:14
KhaBalim installing admin12:14
KhaBaland its asking what version  Caldera OpenLinux you have12:14
MorphDKthat's not supposed to happen, right?12:14
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KhaBalit said pick you linux distribution12:15
KhaBalubuntu wasnt there so i picked debian12:15
JHKmwe, now it works a bit more but there is already an error12:16
JHKFailed to prepare lufs.ko module for your Linux kernel 2.6.10-5-386.12:16
JHKDetected Linux kernel sources "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build" do not appear to be valid.12:16
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mweJHK, what kernel source package did you install?12:16
mweJHK, sorry I don't know why you get that error12:18
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JHKokay, thanks12:18
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MorphDKI turned on autohinting on my fonts, and now bold fonts doesn't look nice anymore :(12:18
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MorphDKhelp me! :D12:19
tigliona1bitwhats autohinting?12:19
Deanodriverdoes anyone have any idea of how to resolve this issue I'm having with firefox-gnome-support?12:19
MorphDKi don't know, but it looks nice :D12:19
tigliona1bitDeanodriver: what's the difference between firefox-gnome and regular firefox?12:19
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Brydenn[WU] yo yo yo12:19
Deanodriveri've added the backports repositories12:19
Brydenn[WU] whats up guys hehe12:19
Brydenn[WU] i'm back12:20
Brydenn[WU] Kubuntu rocks12:20
MorphDKtigliona1bit, I guess it's Firefox GNOME-support12:20
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Deanodriverand now12:20
MorphDKBrydenn[WU] , yes?12:20
DeanodriverErrors were encountered while processing:12:20
Deanodriver /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-gnome-support_1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5_i386.deb12:20
DeanodriverE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:20
evaderHi. I run Hoary and have just the extra mirrormax backports in my sourceslist. I installed beagle after following the ubuntu guide on the beagle page. It indexes gaim,email and web sites - but not files - that backend doesnt work. Any ideas please?12:20
tigliona1bitMorphDK: uhh, please explain that to me12:20
MorphDKtigliona1bit, gnome support for firefox..12:20
Deanodriverand when i load update manager: Your system has broken packages12:20
Brydenn[WU] yah its pretty cool12:20
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tigliona1bitMorphDK: Stop saying that.  What I mean is Why do you want it?12:20
MorphDKtigliona1bit, to add gnome support to firefox? :P12:21
MorphDKtigliona1bit, guess it's the look'n'feel stuff12:21
tigliona1bitMorphDK: What the hell does that mean?  Firefox works fine in gnome already12:21
MorphDKtigliona1bit, but i'm not sure12:21
Deanodriverbut simply, mozilla-firefox-gnome-support is broken :P12:21
tigliona1bitoh, you mean use gtk themes?12:21
tigliona1bitthere's plenty of themes on addons.mozilla.org, aren't there?12:21
tigliona1bit=P sorry I'm not of much help, but you could have explained it to me the first time what exactly you're trying to do12:22
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Deanodriverseems to be working, thanks anyway12:22
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evaderHi. I run Hoary and have just the extra mirrormax backports in my sourceslist. I installed beagle after following the ubuntu guide on the beagle page. It indexes gaim,email and web sites - but not files - that backend doesnt work. Please ANYONE ?? I've tried google etc....12:23
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rasputnikDeanodriver: what was it then?12:24
Deanodriveri just ran Synaptic and reinstalled the broken package12:24
rasputnikDeanodriver: maybe someone fixed it up at the head end12:25
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xabbuHow do I reconfigure the sound? It seems alsa has forgotten everything.12:25
DeanodriverI wouldn't mind changing all my repositories to the ones my ISP hosts, if it's possible12:25
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rasputnikanyone have a guide for building your own debs? cadaver has no ssl support, which sucks12:25
Myrttinikkia: thanks.12:25
Deanodriverbecause then it wouldn't count towards my download quota12:26
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rasputnikDeanodriver: that's nice of them. just edit /etc/apt/sources.list then12:26
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Deanodrivercool, thanks12:26
Deanodriverhopefully they work :P12:27
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evaderAnyone please some help with my beagle file backend troubles?12:27
rasputnikDeanodriver: back up the file first then :) and run 'apt-get update' to start using the new list12:27
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Deanodriveri've just gotta work out which URL's are for which :P12:28
xvlunevader, maybe you should provide some relevant information by killing beagle and start it with beagled --fg --debug --allow-backend Files12:28
ukatohello everyone12:29
evaderxvlun, where can I flood the output too.12:29
evaderxvlun, could you join #flood? and anyone else that wants to have  a quick look at a beagle problem.12:30
xvlunjust use a nopaste system12:30
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Deanodrivermeh, it's probably only a few hundred MB, and it's more up to date...12:30
Brydenn[WU] for some reason i cant see my Windows HD. all i see is the 8gig partition i made for Kubuntu12:30
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Brydenn[WU] anyone know how to mount my windows HD?12:31
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Deanodrivermount -t filesystem /dev/hda1(for example) /mountpoint12:31
duperBydenn: mount /dev/hdaX /media/windows -t ntfs -o umask=022212:32
ukatowhat's the umask do12:32
Deanodriverthat one's better :P12:32
evaderxvlun, http://rafb.net/paste/results/TpwZ8S14.html12:32
evaderAnyone that might help with a beagle error please ^ that's --fg --debug output12:33
ukatohas anyone by chance used stratagus before12:33
MorphDKARGH.. My gnome-background-properties is broken.. Might be because I deleted some wallpapers after adding them to the list.. What can I do?12:33
evaderWARN: Could not open /dev/inotify12:33
evaderDEBUG: Starting FileSystemWatcher Backend12:33
evaderERROR: Caught exception while instantiating Files backend12:33
evaderERROR: System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. ---> System.DllNotFoundException: sqlite12:33
evaderThat's basically what it all comes down to.12:34
KBJanybody here comfortable in monodevelop?12:34
duperukato: i think its been used to change the permission of target folder12:34
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ukatoduper, i see12:35
ukatooh yeah. that makes sense.12:35
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evaderI *didnt* set up inotify explicitly - so i expected to see that - but what's with the sqllite bit? doesnt it use extended HDD attributes? Im on ext3 and added that xattr thing...12:35
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nobisahmm hi... can someone teach me how to use linux? im totally new to this OS.. nid help.. linux10112:35
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xvlunevader, pls type the correct command: /usr/lib/beagle/BeagleDaemon.exe --replace --fg --debug --a llow-backend Files12:35
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xvlunwithout a space between a nd l12:36
MorphDKnobis, what do you want to learn?12:36
ukatonobis, that is very vague12:36
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MorphDKThe force is strong with this one :<12:36
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evaderbash: /usr/lib/beagle/BeagleDaemon.exe: Permission denied12:37
nobisi want to know the basics12:37
evaderi normally just type beagled as normal user.12:37
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KB2000anybody here comfortable with monodevelop?12:38
KB2000i want to add a dll to a monodevelop project12:38
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evaderPlease someone ^ That's my beagled error.12:41
evaderWith output.12:41
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evaderI didn't set up inotify, but i added that extended attribute stuff to fstab12:42
evaderI didn't manually touch the kernel12:42
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nikkiaevader: you need to install sqlite12:43
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jago25_98How do I control startup services from the commandline? (rc-update - command not found)12:43
nikkiathe first error ('System.DllNotFoundException: sqlite') is the clue :)12:43
evadernikkia, what packages - just 'sqlite' ? I followed the Ubuntu hoary beagle guide at the beagle page12:44
bassMonkeyhi, how much memory should ubuntu use by default? top says this with only tomboy and gaim running: Mem:    516344k total,   440240k used,    76104k free,     8564k buffers12:44
nikkiaevader, yeah, i think its just sqlite12:44
evaderill try.12:45
bassMonkeywhile system monitor says: User memory: 132.4 MB of 504.2 MB 26.3%12:45
bassMonkeywhy the huge difference?12:45
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tapiaI have a problem with the mimetypes12:46
tapiawhen I try to open a PDF with evince, I get this error:12:46
tapiaMIME type not supported: 'application/x-extension-pdf'12:46
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twb_anyone know how to install Limewire on here?12:47
ukatohow often do you all shut off your computer12:47
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ukatotwb_, isn't there a package for it12:47
amnesiawhich network-manager works for anyone, the breey one or the on in thom's repo12:47
bassMonkeytwb_: Isn't that in ubuntuguide?12:47
tigliona1bittwb_: it's in ubuntuguide12:47
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twb_hmmmm i never checked12:48
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twb_whats the command for deleting files?12:48
twb_rn 'filename'?12:49
bassMonkeycould someone check how much ram thei're using please? in top and in "system monitor"... please?12:49
twb_rm 'filename'12:49
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bassMonkeytwb_: please help me in return?12:50
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bassMonkeytwb_: i'm not asking for very much12:50
CaWIssbassMonkey, 15012:50
slyim using 249 ( converting video )12:51
bassMonkeyis that what top shows or what system monitor shows?12:51
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slythats what my desklets show12:51
hungerI can not log into gnome on my fresh breezy install.12:51
CaWIssuser memory12:51
twb_bassmonkey: sure12:51
CaWIssbassMonkey, user memory in system monitor :P12:52
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