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korCZizapt-get install aim ??? ;)12:00
cleit0n[chii] : how i installl modem intel 537ep in kubuntu?12:00
bystandertwb_: you might read this too12:00
bystander!repositories12:00
ubotuI heard repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:00
korCZizwhat is kubuntu?12:00
korCZizhow differences are between ubuntu a kubuntu?12:00
stazzkorCZiz: kubuntu is a stupid word invented to confuse people12:00
korCZizstazz: kubuntu==ubuntu?12:01
stazzkorCZiz: yes.12:01
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jvlkorCZiz: essentially its ubuntu using kde12:01
bystanderkorCZiz: it's ubuntu with KDE12:01
stazzkorCZiz: kubuntu is ubuntu with a kde desktop12:01
korCZizso if i have installed kde 3.4 so i have not ubuntu but kubuntu now?12:01
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auraxcan anyone help me out, i have to release a port from my gateway12:02
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stazzaurax: your gateways manual can help you12:02
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korCZizi have gnome, kde3.4, wmaker, phluid, enlightenment... what i have?12:02
bystanderkorCZiz: you have ubuntu with gnome and kde12:02
auraxsure12:02
auraxu know a good one ?12:02
stazzkorCZiz: you've got ubuntu. ;)12:02
korCZizbystander: and if i unistall gnome is going to be kubuntu?12:02
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stazzkorCZiz: yes and no.12:03
stazzkorCZiz: no in terms of sense12:03
korCZizso diffirent between ubuntu and kubuntu is only 'k' letter?12:03
bystanderkorCZiz: it's all Ubuntu, whatever you install :) You can even have ubuntu without a desktop or window manager12:03
cleit0n[chii] : how i installl modem intel 537ep in kubuntu?12:03
stazzkorCZiz: as I said. kubuntu is a stupid word invented to confuse people uncessarily12:04
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fsd3hi. somebody knows how i can set the style of my nautilus explorer permanent. i m always setting list and 25% and it saves the config just for that folder12:04
korCZizbystander: so i am not able understand how differences are between both distros. if i use ubuntu with kde than its kubuntu. without kde ubuntu. when i uninstall gnome and install kde. what is it? good question in some quizes..12:05
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^thehatsrule^korCZis: ubuntu is officially only supported12:05
bystanderkorCZiz: kubunu is  not a separate distro12:05
bystander*kubuntu12:05
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auraxcan anyone help me out fix my gateway so p2p clients on the workstations can wokr ?12:05
auraxwork even12:05
bystanderkorCZiz: it's just an addition/ choice12:05
korCZizomg, why was kubuntu invented? everyone can type as i apt-get install kde3 and have kubuntu12:06
twb_wheres synaptic located?12:06
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bystanderkorCZiz: no, you should type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop really12:06
jvltwb_: computer -> system configuration12:06
korCZizits only word invented for confusing.......how said stazz before12:06
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twb_filesystem?12:07
korCZizK means krippled12:07
korCZiz;)12:07
ukatohaha12:07
korCZizkids12:07
jvltwb_: nope. menus12:07
w-muteHi, folks.12:08
jvltaskbar more exactly12:08
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bystandertwb_: most binaries/executable are in /usr/bin/ , but that doesn't matter really as long as they are in your PATH variable12:08
korCZizare here any developers?12:08
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korCZizkernel developers?12:08
korCZizor only administrators and users?12:09
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goldfishkorCZiz: #ubuntu-dev12:09
^thehatsrule^tbh, i cant use kde... too heavy for my machine heh12:09
korCZizgoldfish: you are really gold fish, and can i have next two wishes?12:09
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korCZizgoldfish: are you goldfish or no?12:09
twb_anyone here play Raven Shiield/12:09
goldfishkorCZiz: i am goldfish.12:09
korCZizgoldfish: so i will working kernel 2.6.12.112:09
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^thehatsrule^twb_: yea i do, but on windows ;p12:10
HiFi_dkhi... are there something special i need to do, to compile a new ubuntu kernel ?12:10
korCZizgoldfish: and.... next three wishes ;)12:10
HiFi_dki have installede the linux-tree...12:10
twb_do u know how to instal it on here?12:10
korCZizHiFi_dk: its impossible12:10
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^thehatsrule^twb_: i think youll have to wine it...12:10
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korCZizHiFi_dk: to compile new kernel12:10
twb_eh?12:10
bystanderkorCZiz: nonsense12:10
korCZizHiFi_dk: if your mkinitrd isnot working12:10
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GNULinuxerhow do i play mp4 videos in ubuntu?12:11
HiFi_dkkorCZiz: ok, but I have to get ipw2200 working, following a howto12:11
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w-muteEvery 5 tries or so when I try to access an SMB share on a remote server (inside the LAN) Nautilus hangs when it normally would ask for the password of the keyring. Can anybody repro that? What's the fix?12:11
GNULinuxergvlc tries to use /dev/dsp ... so i get no sound12:11
korCZizHiFi_dk: hm12:11
scspongerhey how do you mount a smb drive so you can play some mp3s in xmms?12:11
GNULinuxerhow do i make gvlc use esd?12:11
bystandertwb_: you aren't expecting to run windows binaries on a new OS, are you?12:11
HiFi_dkbut maybe it's enough with just the sources...12:11
twb_can u even install RvS on Linux12:11
scspongerplease12:11
korCZizscsponger: i have used linneighbourhood12:11
^thehatsrule^yes, by emulation12:11
twb_yes12:11
w-mutespsponger: not at all because xmms probably doesn't know about VFS.12:12
scspongerkorCZiz... appreciate it12:12
^thehatsrule^bystander: well its a valid argument, since after all its based on the unreal engine... just no native ones for rvs tho12:12
twb_i want my vent and rvs12:12
HiFi_dkkorCZiz: I coudn't find a package for it12:12
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scspongerthanks w-mute12:12
korCZizscsponger: and have mounted smb share in some dir and added into xmms, its simple12:12
HiFi_dkhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2662312:12
^thehatsrule^twb_: vent?12:12
twb_ventrilo12:12
scspongerkorCziz... i'm a newbie... so12:12
korCZizscsponger: you must have compiled kernel with smbfs12:12
orsowhat package does cdrdao comes with?12:13
korCZizscsponger: have you install linneigbourhood?12:13
w-mutescsponger: right - if you mount the share via the mount command it will work ... but it will toast your access control.12:13
twb_thehatsrule: whats ur name on rvs?12:13
orsocdrtools?12:13
scspongerkorCZiz... no... but i will try12:13
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korCZizscsponger: if not, type "apt-get install linneigbourhoods"12:13
scspongergreat will do12:13
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neighborleeis there any convergence of opinions on what is causing, and a fix for this odd X lockups many are seeing ? ( locks up x although mouse /keyb seem to still work but gnome-panel is fried )12:13
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korCZizjvl1: wb12:14
puddleboyubuntu rox12:14
bystanderorso: apt-cache search cdrdao  >> cdrdao funnily enough12:14
jvl1thx12:14
twb_can Limwire go on Linux?12:14
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puddleboytwb_, tes12:14
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puddleboyerm12:14
ralftwb_: yes12:14
puddleboyyes12:14
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puddleboytwb_, what flavor of linux are you running?12:15
orsobystander, tanks, my first time with apt-get (im used to portage)12:15
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twb_Ubuntu12:15
twb_????12:15
twb_i guess....12:15
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twb_brah, i have no idea about anything when it comes to Linux12:15
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puddleboytwb_, ill give you a link to where you can d/l it for linux - sec12:16
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korCZizgoldfish: on ubuntu-dev is only one (of course inactive) person12:16
bystander!faq12:16
ubotuI heard faq is Frequently Asked Questions you can check it out from here ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions12:16
Dj_AlTeKhey ne1 know how to copy a cd to a folder then burn it to a disc with all the track listings??12:16
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puddleboyhttp://www.limewire.com/english/content/downloadfree.shtml12:16
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puddleboythere is a linux link on there12:16
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Zeqi need some help here, i cant change my screen resolution, i have a 17' monitor but I can only choose the 640x480 resolution, anyone who can help..12:17
twb_i have Limewire on cd from windows, im assuming that wont work on here?12:17
theonetrueacecan i download the install/live dvd from someone on this channel?12:17
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korCZizpec12:17
Dj_AlTeKhey ne1 know how to copy a music cd to a folder then burn it to a disc with all the track listings??12:17
SQFreakI'm having a repo problem. When I try to install kubuntu-desktop, I'm told that it depends on konversation which is not going to be installed. Konversation depends on a newer version of kdelibs than is available. What should I do?12:17
puddleboytwb_, correct, you will have to download limewire for linux12:17
puddleboytwb_, from here: http://www.limewire.com/english/content/downloadfree.shtml12:17
twb_ok12:17
MidnightDevilhi, i accidently added my username in the wrong linenumber so now i got the msg "sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 20"12:17
twb_ty12:17
puddleboytwb_, np12:17
alberto_has anyone gotten ubunto to work with the alsa drivers for ac97 ?12:17
bystandertwb_: methinks you need to change the way you are thinking - this ain't windows any more ;-)12:18
twb_and do u know about games such as Ravenshield?12:18
pepsixDj_AlTeK, have you done.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:18
pepsix?12:18
Triffid_HunterMidnightDevil: time for a knoppix cd ;)12:18
twb_am i able to install on here12:18
Dj_AlTeKpepsix, no12:18
scspongerkorCZiz....  sudo apt-get install linneigbourhoods12:18
scspongerPassword:12:18
scspongerReading package lists... Done12:18
scspongerBuilding dependency tree... Done12:18
scspongerE: Couldn't find package linneigbourhoods12:18
scsponger... ?12:18
MidnightDevili dont have any :(12:18
goldfishlol12:18
Dj_AlTeKshould i do it in root terminal?12:18
bystanderscsponger: wrong package name12:18
pepsixDj_AlTeK, it doesnt matter.. you need to do it as root... so a regulat terminal with sudo prepended to the command will be fine12:18
bystanderscsponger: possiby linneighborhood12:18
korCZizscsponger: my mistake12:19
MidnightDevilTriffid_Hunter,  any other way ?12:19
korCZizscsponger: linneighbourhood12:19
scspongerthanks bystander... will give it a shot12:19
orsobystander, i get this, E: Invalid operation search12:19
Zeqi need some help here, i cant change my screen resolution, i have a 17' monitor but I can only choose the 640x480 resolution, anyone who can help..12:19
Triffid_HunterMidnightDevil: exploit a local privelege escalation flaw12:19
pepsixDj_AlTeK, oh heh12:19
bystanderorso:  apt-cache search <keyword>12:19
pepsixthat was meant for Zeq i guess12:19
korCZizexploit? i love this word..12:19
MidnightDevilthat sounds a little bit dificult, but if u tell me how i think i can live with that12:19
MidnightDevillol12:19
puddleboyZeq, what kind of video card are you running?12:19
puddleboyZeq, also, what kind of monitor12:20
scspongergot it... thanks gents... will give it a shot12:20
orsobystander, sorry, didnt see that you wrote apt-cache12:20
twb_hey, i want to learn about this thing12:20
twb_i just dont know where to begin12:20
MidnightDevilbrb12:20
puddleboyZeq?12:21
twb_this things telling me i don have permission too extractt????12:21
bystandertwb_: try the faq -see ubotu below12:21
bystander!faq12:21
ubotu[faq]  Frequently Asked Questions you can check it out from here ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions12:21
ZeqI have a 17' LCD monitor12:21
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pepsixZeq, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:21
Zeqand i dont know which video card i have, i think is an onboard one12:21
pepsixtry to answer the questions correctly :)12:21
puddleboyokay12:21
Zeqi have an intel pentium 412:21
bystandertwb_: you are probably trying to extract outside your home directory12:21
pepsixheh, you need to know your video card12:22
alberto_i have a laptop that has the ac97 card. i use to have suse on it, and the sound card worke fine, now with ubuntu de the driver looks the same and its on but i have no sound ... snd_atiixp12:22
alberto_can anyone help ?12:22
pepsixZeq, ask hal-device-manager12:22
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alberto_i been reading around with no luck12:22
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bystanderalberto_: ac97 is a codec, not a card12:23
puddleboyZeq, can you open /var/log/Xorg.0.log12:23
alberto_sorry....12:23
bystandera number of cards use ac9712:23
puddleboyZeq, with a text editor12:23
korCZizalberto_: you need insmod snd_ac97_codecs12:23
korCZizalberto_: you need insmod snd_ac97_codec12:23
scspongerkorCziz .... i've properly installed linneighborhood... but am still unable to play anything... is there anything else I need to do?12:23
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alberto_insmod: can't read 'snd_ac97_codecs': No such file or directory12:24
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Dj_AlTeKpepsix, i ran dpkg-configure xserver-xorg, now what do i do12:24
Zeqwait..  im trying12:24
korCZizscsponger: have you run a linneigbourhood? have you mounted smb share in some dir?12:24
alberto_korCZiz, is that the name of the module ?12:24
bystanderkorCZiz: please, if you don't know, don't answer: it just creates confusion12:24
twb_geez, i cant figure th is out12:24
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korCZizalberto_: so you have problems, my machine is working fine12:24
korCZizalberto_: yes it is12:25
scspongerummm... no but last time i tried to mount a smb share... it froze up my computer?12:25
korCZizalberto_: maybe try append ko12:25
scspongeri know i need to do it12:25
scspongerbut really don't know how12:25
Zeqi opened xorg.0.log12:25
orsobystander, i dont get the messege of apt-cache search cdrdao. it just roming about k3b but k3b asks for cdrdao to be installed?12:25
sweetmomaWhat is the easiest way to share a printer from one ubuntu install with another12:25
puddleboycan you copy and paste the contents to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/12:25
korCZizalberto_: snd_ac97_codec.ko12:25
alberto_korCZiz same outcome12:25
puddleboy(paste bin)12:25
bystanderkorCZiz: for heaven's sake, stop giving guess answers!12:25
Dj_AlTeKhey pepsix i ran dpkg-configure xserver-xorg, now what do i do?12:26
korCZizbystander: what?12:26
twb_why is it co complex?12:26
twb_all i want is Limewire on my pc12:26
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bystanderorso: there are several lines - one of them is cdrdao, which is the package you need12:26
korCZizalberto_: and have you seen /lib/modules directory?12:26
sweetmomatwb_, its not hard to install limewire12:26
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alberto_korCZiz but its alredy on, Look at what lsmod says.... snd                    50660  6 snd_atiixp,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_12:26
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scspongerkorCziz: ummm... no but last time i tried to mount a smb share... it froze up my computer?12:26
twb_wanna walk me through it12:26
bystandertwb_: it isn't complex - you just aren't used to it yet :)12:27
scspongeram i doing something wrong?12:27
twb_.....not at all : /12:27
VjazHi. Is there an easy way to make Thunderbird handle mailto-links from Firefox?12:27
sweetmomatwb_, limewire is a java app, you need java and then download the Linux package from limewire.com12:27
korCZizscsponger: so i dont know what is going to wrong, because my is working perfectly....12:27
scspongerhmm... ok i'll mess with it12:27
scspongerthanks for the help though12:27
korCZizscsponger: it has frozes my computer when i have had czech letters in dir and filenames..12:28
VjazThe default settings try to open a new Thunderbird each time, which is something Thunderbird doesn't like.12:28
twb_ok, so ill get java first12:28
sweetmomaVjaz, use the preffered apps in settings12:28
bystander!java12:28
ubotusomebody said java was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java12:28
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korCZizscsponger: bystander is able to help you...12:28
scspongerhmmm12:28
puddleboyZeq, still there?12:28
scspongerthanks korCziz12:28
Vjazsweetmoma: Yes, I know that, but what should I put in there? The default "Thunderbird" setting is wrong because it tries to open a new Thunderbird each time I want to send mail.12:28
korCZizscsponger: is not why...12:29
alberto_korCZiz any sujestions ?12:29
korCZizalberto_: no, but have you seens log files?12:29
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orsobystander, i only get two lines and nothing about cdrdao. An try to run apt-get install cdrdao tells me its not around or available12:29
Zeqyes, i have to copy that, right?12:29
sweetmomaVjaz, It shouldnt do that, it happens to me sometimes12:29
alberto_yes12:30
bystanderorso: you may be missing some repositories - see below12:30
scspongerbystander.... i've installed linneighborhood ... and have previously tried to mount my smb share dir... but all it did is freeze up my ubuntu box... any suggestions?12:30
alberto_everything looks normal12:30
sweetmomaorso, have you added any new repos?12:30
bystander!repositories12:30
ubotuhmm... repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:30
puddleboyZeq, copy it and paste it into http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/12:30
Vjazsweetmoma: Do you use Thunderbird too?12:30
alberto_i dont have a /dev/dsp though12:30
scspongerbystander... could i have my command wrong?12:30
korCZizalberto_: and can you copy files from remote share to local?12:30
orsosweetmoma, how can i do that, this is my first time with apt-get12:30
Vjazsweetmoma: On Hoary? And is the line in your preferred applications "mozilla-thunderbird -mail %s"? (that's the default for TB)12:30
bystanderscsponger: I use NFS and know nothing about samba/smbfs etc12:30
puddleboyZeq, what text editor did you open it in?12:31
korCZizalberto_: or when you open the directory system frozes?12:31
Dj_AlTeKhey i got my music cd open, now i just need to know how to copy the songs to cdc/cd creator12:31
sweetmomaVjaz, yes.  I use preffered apps and it works fine.  but hold on let me give you a link12:31
Dj_AlTeKcvc/cd creator*12:31
Dj_AlTeKdvd*12:31
scspongerbystander... i'll do some research thanks anyway12:31
korCZizalberto_: sorry it was for scsponger12:31
Zeqdone, i pasted it12:31
alberto_korCZiZ NO, I dont understand12:31
alberto_Oh cook :-)12:31
Vjazsweetmoma: I'm guessing you know a script that does it right? I know about that solution... I was hoping that Ubuntu had made a neat package or something that takes care of it.12:32
alberto_korCZiz sorry to bathor man. i do apreciate your help12:32
Vjazsweetmoma: But if you have a link, please paste it. That should help.12:32
korCZizalberto_: ok, its your fish ;)12:32
Wa77zwhats some good ftp software for linux ?12:32
twb_everything is goin to my desktop, im furious12:32
Dj_AlTeKne1 here know how to copy songs from a cd to cd/dvd creator?12:32
alberto_so has anyone here battled this problem ?12:33
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camalberto_, is your sound card supported in linux?12:33
puddleboyZeq, I see the problem, can you paste the contents of "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" to the paste bin?12:33
alberto_cam yes12:34
camalberto_, is the module loaded?12:34
alberto_cam it was working in suse fine12:34
alberto_cam yes12:34
Dj_AlTeKne1 here know how to copy songs from a cd to cd/dvd creator?12:34
Zeqwait wait, i paste xorg.conf contento where?12:34
camwhat is the dmesg output from the module?12:34
puddleboyhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/12:34
puddleboysame place12:34
Zeqoh, ok, sorry, i have some problems with my english12:35
alberto_cam the modules are loaded and seem to be fine12:35
puddleboyZeq, its no problem, I probably have worse problems speaking whatever your native langage is :)12:35
alberto_cam the only thing is that i dont have a /dev/dsp and the sound doesnt work12:35
camalberto_, but what's the output from your kernel log or dmes or whatever12:35
Dj_AlTeKdoes anyone know how to get songs from a cd to copy into the cd/dvd creator window??12:35
puddleboylanguage rather12:35
alberto_cam one sec, i will paste it in pastebin12:35
camok12:36
twb_anyone know how to make Debian look like this?12:36
Zeqdone12:36
sweetmomaVjaz, sorry i cant find the link right now , it was on newsforge a week ago12:36
twb_witth a theme an everything12:36
bystanderDj_AlTeK: if you want to make music CDs you'll need graveman, k3b or gnomebaker installed12:36
Dj_AlTeKdoes anyone know how to get songs from a cd to copy into the cd/dvd creator window??12:36
alberto_cam http://pastebin.ca/1618912:37
sweetmomaDj_AlTeK, drag and drop12:37
Dj_AlTeKsweetmoma: drag and drop doesnt work12:37
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sweetmomaDj_AlTeK, what are you using?12:37
Karnwell, livecd is up and running :) looks good12:37
Quest-Masterhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=232986 <-- for anyone wanting to help a poor Ubuntu user with a dead X graphical interface.. :(12:38
Dj_AlTeKi opened the cd, and opened cd-dvd creator and when i select a song it wont copy12:38
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sweetmomaDj_AlTeK, what app are you using?12:38
Dj_AlTeKcd/dvd creator12:38
Dj_AlTeKcomes with ubuntu12:38
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bystanderDj_AlTeK: 08:37 < bystander> Dj_AlTeK: if you want to make music CDs you'll need12:38
bystander                   graveman, k3b or gnomebaker installed12:38
sweetmomaDj_AlTeK, have you tried k3b12:38
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camalberto_, what module are you using for your sound card?12:39
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camalberto_, or what kind of sound card do you have in there?12:39
GNULinuxerAny Idea how I can play mp4 videos in Ubuntu?12:40
puddleboyZeq, in a terminal do "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"    Find in it  Section "Device" and just below it there is a line that says  Driver "via".  Change "via" to "i810"12:40
alberto_cam12:40
LexiCon[gsr-dj] is there a starter's guide to installing the ethernet/wireless?? :\12:40
camalberto_, ?12:40
alberto_cam can i pvt you the modules ?12:40
camsure12:40
osirisHi im trying to get my display setup correct i have a nvidia gforce fx5500 (the drivers are installed correctly) with a samsung Syncmaster 172v monitor, i have entered the correct vert and horiz values but still the display has a ghosted image to the right ive tried differant refresh rates too, any help would be great.12:41
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puddleboyLexiCon[gsr-dj] , ethernet should have been installed automatically just fine - wireless can be tricky sometimes12:41
Karnosiris, how long is your video cable?12:42
Dj_AlTeKeffin a!12:42
Vjazsweetmoma: I think I found something that works on ubuntuforums.org: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18175 - it seemed to work fine on the first try, so I'm using that for now12:42
osirisKarn: Not very long, why?12:42
Dj_AlTeKi cant find my horay disc12:42
alberto_cam Got it?12:42
puddleboyZeq, did that make sense?12:42
Karnosiris, a long cable can cause ghosting ... as can a cheap cable. make sure the cable isnt running near any power cables aswell12:42
NeoGeo64help12:42
NeoGeo64how do i enable universe and multiverse12:42
osirisKarn: It was ok in windows, about 30 mins ago.12:43
Quest-MasterNeoGeo64: http://www.ubuntuguide.org12:43
camalberto_, yeah12:43
camalberto_, hey, dump the lspci stuff over there too12:43
bystanderDj_AlTeK: then do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment the Cd line with a # , do an update/reload, and install from the network12:43
Karnosiris, have you tried using the nv driver  - does it still have ghosting?12:43
osirisyes it does12:43
osirisim sure it has something to do with the horiz and vert values i have set, but they seem to have worked last time.12:44
osirisand they are the correct values from the monitor manual.12:44
Karnwhat resolution are you running?12:44
Zeqyes, and i save changes12:44
osiris1280x102412:44
Zeqand now?12:44
osirisat 60hz12:44
Karnosiris, is it ghosting @ 800x60012:44
osirisNo not at all12:45
alberto_cam Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller12:45
osirisPerfect Display at 800x60012:45
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Karnosiris, then i'm guessing either the refresh isnt high enough or the screen cant handle 1280x102412:45
Dj_AlTeKthanx bystander12:45
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osirisKarn: it must be the refresh but i have had it working before in ubuntu with 1280x1024 @60hz12:46
osiristhis is what i cant understand12:46
puddleboyZeq, restart12:46
puddleboy=)12:46
Zeqok, brb =)12:46
Zeqthank u12:47
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Karnosiris, i wouldnt recommend 60hz anyways ... its bad for your eyes. check your xorg.cfg file and check the values are correct there12:47
camalberto_, i found this in the ubuntu forums: I experimented further and discovered that by unloading and reloading the snd_atiixp module sound worked, although I had to unmute everything and turn up the volume. Today sound worked without ant intervention from me. Very strange.12:47
camalberto_, it's a guy w/ the same card/problem as you, you could give it a whirl12:47
osirisKarn: in the xorg.conf where can you change the refresh rate?12:47
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alberto_cam i tried that12:48
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Karnin the Section "Monitor"12:48
sara_pooI have a brand new amd64 ubuntu install, and X won't work, and I never set a root password.  I didn't expect this.  What did I miss?12:48
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Karnosiris, HorizSync and VertRefresh12:49
puddleboysara_poo, there is no root password in ubuntu12:49
puddleboysara_poo,  you have to use sudo12:49
alberto_cam i got an error this time12:49
puddleboysara_poo, and your current user password12:49
alberto_cam when i reloaded it,,,, look ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:14.5[B]  -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 19312:49
alberto_ATI IXP AC97 controller: probe of 0000:00:14.5 failed with error -1312:49
Karnpuddleboy, are you saying there is no way to log in as root?12:49
sara_poopuddleboy: heh, interesting.  Ok i'll give it a shot.  I'm already in sudoers?12:49
bulletbrainyou can give root a password if you like12:49
osirisat the momment there 31-81 and 56-75 which looks normal.12:49
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|2onanhi12:50
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oofnikhey guys, for some reason when i upgraded my kernel from 386 to 686-smp alsa is now broken.. any ideas?12:50
|2onandoes anybody know how to do a CRC check under ubuntu?12:50
Karnosiris, then i dont know. sorry12:50
puddleboyKarn, no way that Im aware of yet =)12:50
osirisno probs thanks for the help anyway Karn12:50
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camalberto_, ok, there's a related error i found on google12:51
Karnoofnik, did you make sure alsa was compiled into your new kernel?12:51
sara_poois there a way to search the apt-get repositories like with portage?  To see what available packages are there?  (apt-get --search blackbox??)12:51
camalberto_, check this link out: http://www.linuxcompatible.org/No_sound_since_upgrade_to_Fedora_Core_2_Kernal_2.6.8-1.521_t28449.html12:51
Wa77zis there any ftp software for linux ?12:51
Karnpuddleboy, there must be a way ... it makes no sense to not have a root account with access12:51
sara_pooWa77z: client or server?12:51
camalberto_, i gotta go home, there's tons of crap about your card on the web, search around12:51
oofnikKarn it is the ubuntu image kernel, i didn't compile it12:51
bystandersara_poo: apt-cache search <keyword>12:51
|2onansara_poo, do sudo apt-cache search12:51
Quest-Masterhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=232986 <-- for anyone wanting to help a poor Ubuntu user with a dead X graphical interface.. :(12:51
Karnoofnik, then apt-get alsa-lib or whateva (i'm new to debian ... i'm used to emerge :))12:52
sara_pooWa77z: ftp and gnome have gui's for ftp software, gtk-ftp and kftpgrabber i think, or soemthing like that12:52
puddleboyKarn, as best as I know, ubuntu is specifically built without a root account, all admin actions are done through superuser do12:52
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bystander|2onan: sudo isn't needed for apt-cache search12:52
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|2onano haha12:52
oofnikKarn, crimsun helped me reinstall/recompile alsa a while ago to get it working, so apparently he had me do something that was kernel-specific and i haven't been able to get him on here since :-P12:52
|2onancool i didn't know that12:52
oofnikso i'm stuck with 386 until i can talk to crimsun again12:52
alberto_cam thanks for the help :-) safe trip home12:52
|2onanbystander, do you know how to do a CRC check under ubuntu's terminal?12:53
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bystander|2onan: nope, sorry12:53
Dj_AlTeKhey when i try to eject my music cd by right clicking, i get an eject error saying "unable to eject, last error: invalid argument". how do i get eject my cd then?12:53
puddleboyKarn, and it does make some sense - to make it easier/safer to use for the not so educated user, no one will be able to run their system as root all the time12:53
puddleboyKarn, which is a good thing imho12:54
oofnikeh.. well on another note, i can't seem to mount my ntfs partition without root only access, what should i do?12:54
bystanderDj_AlTeK: try ` sudo eject /dev/cdrom ` from a terminal12:54
Karnpuddleboy, it is a good idea ... what would be better is if they had it the way it is but on install told you the root password for future reference12:54
puddleboyKarn, there is no root password12:55
Karnpuddleboy, so you can just login root?12:55
sara_poothere is no root account it looks like12:55
puddleboyKarn, so you cannot login as root, at all12:55
bulletbrainyou can make a root password12:55
sara_pooi think it's a good idea12:55
bystanderKarn: no you can't :)12:55
Dj_AlTeKthanx again bystander12:55
puddleboyKarn, you could create a root user12:55
bulletbrainyou can become root though12:55
Karnsara_poo, there is always a root account afaik12:55
oofniktjat's what i did, sudo passwd root12:55
oofnikubuntu comes default without a root account enabled12:56
puddleboyKarn, but out of fresh install, a root user does not exist12:56
sara_pooKarn: thats pretty neat, nobody knows root's password.  I hope my ubuntu system picked 'beer' as the root password.12:56
dooglus_is anyone familiar with the use of ssh-agent?12:56
bystanderKarn: sudo -i  or sudo -s will give you a root shell12:56
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Karn=S long time since i've used vi ... how do you quit again? :)12:56
dooglus_Karn: :q12:56
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puddleboyi just do sudo sh12:56
sara_poo  :q12:56
puddleboy=)12:56
dooglus_puddleboy: or "sudo -s"12:56
sara_poovi quit =   :q12:56
bulletbrainsara_poo, unless the user account is compromised12:56
Karnthanks all :)12:56
oofnikhaha sara_poo you can just do sudo passwd root to create a root password and use the root account12:57
dooglus_sara_poo: you don't have a root password by default - you can't guess it - it doesn't exist12:57
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bulletbrainsara_poo, then the attacker won't have to bother getting the root password AND the user password, only the user password to access root12:57
sara_poooofnik: i'll just guess for a few days.  I don't think my system is that smart.12:57
ukatodo i have to do anything special to set up or enable OpenGL?12:57
oofnikhaha, alright whatever works :-P12:57
rrittenhouseAnyone here know any basic configuration of squid?12:57
holycowlol12:57
holycowyes12:57
holycowbut12:57
sara_pooI was just kidding actually.12:57
holycowall the attacker now has to do is guess  REALLY REALLY weak user passwords12:57
sara_pooI'm trying to guess at whats wrong with X12:57
oofnikhey, when you're bored, guessing root passwords randomly can be fun...12:57
holycowWHICH IS THE ROOT PASSWORD BY PROXY via sudo12:57
Karn`sudo passwd root` works12:58
oofnikyup12:58
sara_poosu12:58
sara_poobeer12:58
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sara_poo:)12:58
sara_poosorry, wrong terminal12:58
holycowmeaning i should be able to login into half ubuntu installs with 'dilbert' as pass and the other ones with 'god'12:58
oofnikhaha good job12:58
sara_pooj/k12:58
Karnif its that easy to add a root password surely that itself is compromising security12:58
dooglus_sara_poo: for optimal security you should unset your own password too: "sudo passwd -l sara_poo"12:58
sara_poolol12:58
dooglus_sara_poo: then the attacker won't be able to guess your password either.12:58
sara_poodooglus_: good thinking12:59
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dooglus_then turn the computer off and pull out the network cable.  for maximum security, burn the hard disk too.12:59
sara_pooI'd like to set up a cron job to do that daily12:59
bystanderKarn: read the wiki on the root issue - the bot will give you the URL below12:59
holycowKarn, the effect of the default ubuntu install is that the restricted user is basically a root account with the one step of typing in their password, which in general is weak12:59
bystander!rootsudo12:59
ubotumethinks rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo12:59
oofniki like how you think, dooglus12:59
puddleboyhas anyone here installed UT12:59
sara_pooI have12:59
sara_poopuddleboy: i have12:59
holycowso yes, typical ubuntu accounts should be easily exploitable12:59
bulletbraindooglus_, actually I'm stationed on a moon base and use sub space wifi to connect12:59
puddleboysara_poo, how long does it take01:00
dooglus_bulletbrain: so what are you saying?  not enough oxygen to burn the hard disk?01:00
oofnikhah01:00
puddleboysara_poo, its been sitting at Uncompressing Unreal..... for a while now01:00
oofnikyeah he needs the O2 for breathing not fire..01:00
sara_poopuddleboy: it only took about an hour to d/l and install with gentoo, you'll have to get the linux binaries from the site i think with ubunut01:00
sara_pooi'm new to ubuntu01:00
puddleboysara_poo, I already have the ut-install.run file01:00
dooglus_is there a channel where I might find people who know about ssh and ssh-agent?01:00
puddleboysara_poo, im referring to the actual installation program01:01
puddleboysara_poo, how long does it take to install01:01
oofnikwhy doe ubuntu come with /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab? what's the diff between the two?01:01
sara_poopuddleboy: uncompressing for awhile?  that took my system literally 10 seconds...01:01
puddleboysara_poo, weird01:01
sara_poopuddleboy: it should have the 'dots' as a progress meeter thing01:01
puddleboysara_poo, something must be amiss in that case01:01
sara_poopuddleboy: if it's uncompressing top should show it using some cpu % i woudl think01:01
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Karnoofnik, filesystem table .. media table - afaik01:01
alberto_does this mean that im having irq conflicts ?01:01
sara_poopuddleboy: you sure the install file is valid?01:01
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alberto_ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:14.5[B]  -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 19301:01
oofnikah i see01:01
Karnsorry ... mount table01:01
dooglus_oofnik: /etc/mtab is "what is mounted" and /etc/fstab is "what do I know how to mount"01:01
oofnikah ok01:02
dooglus_oofnik: /etc/fstab stays the same size as you umount stuff, whereas /etc/mtab gets smaller01:02
oofnikcan i add an entry to /etc/mtab or is that strictly what is mounted01:02
dooglus_oofnik: you shouldn't edit it01:02
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oofnikalright01:02
odie5533how do I mount a usb flash drive?01:02
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oofnikdooglus_ what is used to automount my USB external?01:03
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wolverianodie5533: just plug it in.01:03
odie5533it isnt mounting01:03
oofnikand put that nifty little desktop icon there01:03
Punkcuti need some help dual booting ubunto hoary and windows xp, but i dont want to put GRUB on the mbr, Ive tried booting into a terminal with a rescue disk and chroot to the ubuntu install and then dd=if/dev/hdc6 of=/mnt/fatswap/linux.bin bs=512 count=1. I then put this in my C:\ folder and added it to boot.ini. However when i try to boot into the ubuntu install i get GRUB and then it hangs. How can i fix this?01:03
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dooglus_oofnik: I don't know.  it's magic.  it just works (for about 10 minutes, after which it just crashes) for me01:03
oofnikodie5533 check dmesg01:03
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oofnikhaha, that sucks.. yeah fortunately it works flawless for me :)01:03
odie5533what am i looking for01:03
sara_poodoes anyone have any idea how to setup control+alt+F2/f3/f4 to swap tty's from inside X?  I'm trying to trouble shoot some x problems, and other distros had that as the default I think01:03
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oofnikodie5533 anything usb - related01:04
odie5533urg ill just use good ol windows01:04
dooglus_sara_poo: it's the default in ubuntu too01:04
odie5533always works01:04
sara_poodooglus_: so X must be freezing then, if i can't swap terminals01:04
kyncaniPunkcut: you don't want to put grub in the mbr ? why is that ???01:04
bystandersara_poo: should be exactly the same on Ubuntu01:04
sara_poodooglus_: gdm lets me log in, then everything stops01:04
holycowhow do you mount a usb flash drive?01:04
dooglus_sara_poo: I sometimes find that ctrl-alt-f1 won't get me anywhere - but that's when X has crashed, yes.01:04
sara_poodooglus_: no messages in my xorg.log either01:04
holycowyou put it in the usb port01:04
dooglus_sara_poo: breezy?01:04
holycowwtf kind of question is that?01:04
holycow:)01:05
sara_poodooglus_:I got the default download, and just put the disk in01:05
sara_poodooglus_: i would guess it's not breezy01:05
sara_poodooglus_: nope, it's hedgehog one01:05
bulletbrainholycow, one that shouldn't be asked twice when it was just answered less than 5 minutes ago :)01:05
oofnikanyone know what the default charset is for FAT / NTFS filesystems? it is using utf8 and i don't want case sensitive01:05
holycowbulletbrain, heh :) then i guess its appropriate he went back to windows01:05
dooglus_sara_poo: I find that the most common cause for hanging is something to do with /usr/bin/esd.  try "sudo chmod 0 /usr/bin/esd" and see if that fixes it01:05
Punkcutkyncani > my windows install is my primary OS, and unfortunately windows does not take kindly to having its boot sector overwritten. it just manipulates the windows install less01:05
oofnikodie5533 don't use windows...01:06
Dj_AlTeKhey what other cd burning programs do they have besides k3b?01:06
dooglus_sara_poo: make a note of the permissions it should have first though, so you can put it back01:06
bulletbrainholycow, they'll be back01:06
oofnikit may work but come on, don't you like the linux challenge!01:06
sara_poook, i gave that a shot.  I'll try to start X from a tty in -- :1 to see if maybe i can get back01:06
holycowbulletbrain, haha! funny, yes indeed :)01:06
bulletbrainand people ask where the games are for Linux, THESE are the games! :)01:06
sara_pooit's a full system freeze though, I've never seen that with X.  (it's a pretty standard system, nvidia, amd64, etc.)01:06
bystanderDj_AlTeK: graveman, gnome-baker01:06
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bimberiDj_AlTeK: gnomebaker, graveman and nautilus01:06
bulletbrainlearning games ;)01:06
dooglus_sara_poo: sometimes I log in from gdm and it hangs, but I can ctrl-alt-f1 and log in to a vc - and then if I pkill esd, the X session will un-hang01:07
ukatodo i have to do anything special to set up or enable OpenGL?01:07
kyncaniPunkcut: never had any problem with that, windows can be installed on the first partition, linux on the second, grub in mbr and everythgin should be fine01:07
sara_poodooglus_: whats esd  ? sound daemon for enlightenment?01:07
sara_poodooglus_: maybe i'll kill that all together first, just to make sure it's the problem?01:07
oofnikdooglus_ does pkill do the same as killall01:07
dooglus_sara_poo: "esound" - it's what gnome uses by default01:07
oofnikand kill01:07
oofnikfor that matter01:07
dooglus_       pgrep,  pkill  -  look  up  or signal processes based on name and other01:07
dooglus_       attributes01:07
Punkcutkyncani > so when the install program asks to isntall grub on the mbr it should be ok to hit ok?01:08
kyncaniPunkcut: yeah01:08
oofnikoh ok01:08
kyncaniPunkcut: and grub should be able to start windows just fine01:08
holycowbulletbrain learning games ;)  <-- indeed, people ask me why i never play games, linux is far more interesting and challenging than any game :)01:08
sara_pooholycow: windows is very challenging also01:08
sara_pooholycow: windowsupdate is a game01:09
holycowrofl01:09
sara_pooi can never keep up01:09
holycowhaha01:09
oofnikhaha that's just becuase microsoft sucks...01:09
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oofnikthey can't keep up either01:09
ukatoanyone use fluxbox?01:09
oofnikwin xp though isn't as bad01:09
sara_poook, imma kill esound, try to start x, if it hangs i'll be back in 10 minutes01:09
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sara_pooukato: I use to, until apt-cache search didn't find it.01:09
bystanderukato: yes- what's the issue?01:09
sara_pooukato: lol, i'll look for that later i guess01:09
Punkcutwindows update is so incredibly simple01:10
ukatoheh01:10
ukatookay so, it starts really slow01:10
sara_pooPunkcut: did you know it runs on freebsd?01:10
Punkcutsome people just look for some kind of challenge when there is none01:10
dooglus_bystander: you sure about that?  I use breezy and still have all kinds of esd problems01:10
ukatothere wsa a workaround, but i forgot it01:10
oofniksynaptic update isn't hard at all either!01:10
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sara_poowindows update runs on freebsd.  Or it did a while back, not sure about anymore01:10
Punkcutsara_poo nope had no idea... wouldnt understand why youd want it to01:10
bystanderdooglus_: crimsun told me they were going to deep-six esd01:10
bystanderfwiw01:11
oofnikis there anything that could possibly happen that i wouldn't want upgrading from 2.6.10-5 to 2.6.10-34?01:11
dooglus_deep-six?01:11
dooglus_wossat?01:11
oofniktrash it01:11
nalioth_wrkndooglus_: 6 feet under01:11
bystanderukato: you need to recompile it with --disable-xmb (it's a bug)01:11
dooglus_ooh.01:11
oofnikwhats wrong with esd?01:11
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bystanderoofnik: everything01:12
oofniklike..01:12
dooglus_oofnik: it's laggy for me, and it also seems to cause gnome to hang on startup most of the time (in breezy)01:12
oofnikoh well that's no fun01:12
ukatobystander, how do i recompile01:12
oofnikwhat's the stable kernel in breezy now?01:12
ukatois it hard =p01:12
chombeeHello - has anyone had experience with a GNOME menu editor that worked recently? I've found they don't fully work and now my menus are all messed up because of them, wondered what the current state of the various editors is01:12
bystanderoofnik: it wants to hold on to everything sound-related with a vise-like grip01:12
dooglus_oofnik: if I use esd, pausing a music track takes a noticeable time, as does restarting playback.  with alsa it's instantanous01:13
oofnikyeah, alsa is nice01:13
sara_pooshould esd show up in ps ax | grep esd?01:13
oofnikchombee try this: sudo killall gnome-panel01:13
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bystanderukato: not really - search the users mailing list for "slow fluxbox"01:13
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dooglus_I do "ps -ef | grep esd"01:13
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chombeeoofnik - why?01:13
lcarloshow can i change mi nick in gaim????01:13
oofnikit will restart the gnome panel01:13
dooglus_that shows it for sure01:14
dooglus_(only it doesn't any more, 'cos it's chmod 0'ed)01:14
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chombeeoofnik - that isn't the problem, (the laptop has been restarted plenty of times), I think the editors really messed up the .desktop files01:15
oofnikhmm.. chombee i don't know what you could do, when you say messed up, what is wrong with it? things are just missing?01:15
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dooglus_lcarlos: in the buddy window go to 'accounts' in 'tools' menu and add the account for your new nick01:16
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oofnikahh, where is crimsun01:16
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dooglus_lcarlos: or if you mean you want to change your nick in the same account, you still use the accounts window - edit "alias" for the account01:16
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chopehi, how can I make ubuntu reconfigure my hardware?01:17
TheKarnis there a search utility for apt-get?01:17
oofnikchope, why do you want to do that01:17
sara_pooTheKarn: apt-cache search01:17
holycowhttp://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2005/06/jkontherun_gues.html  <-- neato01:17
holycowbased on debian linux01:17
TheKarnsara_poo, thanks :)01:17
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bystanderTheKarn: apt-cache search <keyword>01:17
holycowwho knows, perhaps one can muck ubuntu onto such a thing01:17
sara_pooTheKarn: np.  I'm an expert.01:17
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Wa77zguys..i am having problems getting my sound to work01:18
bystandersara_poo: ;)01:18
dooglus_TheKarn: if you're searching for a file within a package that you might not have installed, "apt-file search" is what you want01:18
dooglus_TheKarn: you'll want to "apt-file update" first01:18
TheKarnok ... i'm looking for JAVA SDK ... but its not there :(01:19
dooglus_apt-cache search will search for package names, not file names01:19
bulletbrainweee, new version of WINE out today01:19
bystander!restricted01:19
uboturestricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:19
oofnikWa77z what card do you have01:19
bystanderTheKarn: read ubotu's URL01:19
bulletbrainamong the new feature in today's WINE release: "Initial support for webcams" wow.. didn't expect that01:19
chombeeoofnik - yeah, things are missing from the menus, what is in the menus doesn't always match what the editors think is in the menus, some stuff appears in more than one menu even though it shouldn't01:19
Wa77zi have onbaord sound on a ATI mobo01:19
oofnikchombe do you have smeg installed01:20
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Augustohola01:20
TheKarnbystander, "There are detailed instructions for installing Sun's [Java]  available." ... but where?01:20
chombeeoofnik - yeah, also tried another one before that01:20
bystander!java01:20
ubotufrom memory, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java01:20
Augustohay alguna persona latinoamericana?01:20
sara_poois it possible i don't have a window manager?  Where is gnome-start ?01:21
sara_poostart-gnome ?01:21
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bulletbrainTheKarn, planet ubuntu had a small piece on that the other day01:21
oofnikchombee, unfortunately i don't know what to do, sorry :-/01:21
oofniksara_poo /etc/init.d/gdm start should do it01:21
chombeeoofnik - thanks anyway01:21
oofnikyup01:21
sara_poooofnik: i have to use a login manager?  I'd prefer not to01:21
dooglus_sara_poo: you don't have to, no.01:21
Augustosoy el unico argentino?01:22
bystandersara_poo: startx `which gnome-session`01:22
sara_pooi'm sorry guys, but if i could just get X running i could RTFM a bit better then in this tty with 80x30 chars01:22
dooglus_gnome-session is /usr/bin/gnome-session01:22
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chopeaugusto yo soy uruguayo si sirve de consuelo01:22
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Augustojajaja01:22
TheKarno.0 deb command not found01:23
bystanderdooglus_: yeah, backticks cut down on typing ;)01:23
Augustoque haces vecino???01:23
orsoi must say i start to like debian01:23
Augustosomos los unicos01:23
dooglus_bystander: I don't like backticks.  I much prefer $(...)01:23
TheKarnif it wasnt for the awquard install i'd prefer gentoo :(01:23
bystanderdooglus_: true, easier to read as well01:23
chopeesto es mas bien de los angloparlantes01:23
Augustoblanco y azul, son los colores del glorioso liverpool01:23
forsaken|lappydoes anyone know why ubuntu wouldn't be configuring my ps2 mouse correctly?01:23
oofniksara_poo i don't know how to start gnome without gdm..01:24
dooglus_bystander: and they avoid issues with quoting, and they also nest nicely01:24
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forsaken|lappy(it doesn't even turn on (optical))01:24
Augustono hay otro igual, en la republica oriental del uruguay01:24
bystanderdooglus_: all true!01:24
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Wa77zi need help getting sound to work ..i have onbaord on a ATI mobo...sound works randomly and is mostly broken01:24
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dooglus_bystander: is there some way of using backticks inside an irc client?  I'm guessing you though that I did a `type gnome-session` or something?01:24
dooglus_(whereas really I just copy-and-pasted with the mouse)01:25
bystanderdooglus_: I don't know - haven't tried it :)01:25
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bystander/usr/bin/gnome-session01:26
oofnikWa77z what happens when you try alsamixer01:26
bystanderdooglus_: yup01:26
Wa77zit comes up with my color bar graphs01:26
bystanderworks with /exec -o echo `which gnome-session`01:26
dooglus_can anyone help me with this?  I'm used to being able to run "ssh-agent", use "ssh-add" to add my key to it, then ssh onto a whole chain of boxes and have none of them ask me for my password.01:26
oofniklook for something called IEC95801:27
oofnikif alsamixer comes up, it means alsa is working01:27
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dooglus_but it's not working from this pc.  I can log onto the first box without a password, but once I'm there, SSH_AUTH_SOCK isn't set01:27
Wa77zi dont see anything of that sort01:27
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james_edquestion...01:27
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james_edhello btw all01:28
Wa77zwell i am just plain out confused01:28
james_edi have a p95F viewsonic...01:28
TheKarnwhat is the problem with the Java in ubuntu? i know its restricted but why? gentoo seems to have no problem :S01:29
james_edthe login screen has vertical freaky lines...but when login...lines clear up...01:29
oofnikWa77z what happens when you try to play sounds, and what programs are you using?01:29
bulletbrainTheKarn, if you install it correctly there is no problem01:29
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Wa77zi have used gaim01:29
Wa77zthe IM sounds work some of the time01:30
Wa77zmostly broken though01:30
oofnikhave you tried xmms?01:30
bystanderTheKarn: licensing issues I guess: you'd have to ask Canonical I suppose01:30
oofniki had to configure gaim to use ALSA01:30
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stazzTheKarn: gentoo kinda has a way around it :)01:30
Wa77zi dont know what that is..i would have to say no01:30
TheKarnbulletbrain, ok ... well i'm on a livecd so i dont want to waste time downloading and installing. i just wanted to see how easy apt-get was to use and what was available01:30
stazzTheKarn: the gentoo policy is a much looser policy01:30
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bulletbrainTheKarn, how are you liking the livecd?01:31
TheKarnbulletbrain, nice and clean install but nothing special from what i can see.01:31
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TheKarnbulletbrain, i'm missing my emerge :) but its nice not to have a lengthy install01:32
james_edwhen i create an additional user...the lines won't go away even after logging in01:32
oofnikWa77z xmms is basically the linux winamp01:32
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bulletbrainTheKarn, :)01:32
oofnikWa77z try some other sound enabled programs01:32
Wa77zlet me try it01:32
bulletbrainTheKarn, I've never tried the livecd01:32
Wa77zi am inMusic Player Right Now01:32
TheKarnbulletbrain, well ... was all going well till now ... i cant load firefox =S01:32
oofnikis it working?01:32
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oofnikWa77z check out this FAQ for gaim http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q2301:33
Wa77zits buffering01:33
Wa77zlol01:33
Wa77zi dont have any songs01:33
oofnikoh ok01:33
Wa77zyes it is01:33
Wa77zit works01:33
Wa77zhas not broken yet01:33
oofnikok good01:34
oofnikcheck out that FAQ i posted, i've got to go though so good luck, later everyone01:34
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Wa77zlater01:34
TheKarnok really not going well now ... nautilus has crashed =S01:34
TheKarn"yay ubuntu"01:34
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Wa77zany one got any good suggestions for FTP software01:34
sara_poox froze up again on startx :(01:35
Cervantes_I've a question for all the good people here: when I plug my USB key into my computer, will it automount it?  If so, where?  If not, how do I mount it manually?  Thanks :)01:35
Augustochope is gay01:35
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sara_pooCervantes_: depends on udev, most likely will mount it.  watch your dmesg and see what device it gets connected as, do a fdisk -l /dev/sda (example) to see the partitions available to mount, and configure udev (unless automatically done for you)01:36
Augustoand he se la morfa01:36
holycowhttp://www.nokia770.com/   <-- the have a live cd for the nokia 77001:36
sara_pooCervantes_: but don't listen to me, cause i can't get x to work01:36
holycow"CD is based on Benix which is based on Kanotix which is based on Knoppix which is based on Debian"01:36
holycowwow01:36
holycowfinally a company that gets linux01:36
holycow*sniff*01:36
james_edvertical line issue on login screen issue...any suggestions?01:36
Augustoi dont know any people01:37
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jpieHi. Is ubuntu easier to install for newer users? I am having several problems with debian, and no one will guide me to fix them. I tried Ubuntu but was having problems with the installer. If I explain the problem can someone try and tell me what to do?01:37
Augustocan you help me?01:37
dooglus_aah - I worked out my ssh-agent issue.  you have to put "ForwardAgent yes" in ~/.ssh/config to get ssh to pass ssh-agent details on to the hosts it connects to.01:37
dooglus_(just for the record)01:37
Cervantes_Thanks sara_poo.  Unfortunately, you lost me pretty quickly.  :(  Could you elaborate a little on "dmseg" and "udev"01:37
Augustoi am argentino01:38
dooglus_jpie: you could ask, and see if we can help01:38
jpieokeys. Gimme a sec. going to load up the disk.01:38
Augustomy mother lo sigue always01:38
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bystanderAugusto: try /join #ubuntu-es01:38
bassinboywhat program to use to play .mov ?01:38
Wa77zare there p2p apps for linux ?01:39
sara_pooCervantes_: make sure your device is unplugged01:39
sara_pooWa77z: yup01:39
sara_pooCervantes_: and do a dmesg01:39
sara_pooCervantes_: then plug it in, and do dmesg again01:39
bassinboyWa77z: Windows aint got nothin on Linux when it comes to apps01:39
parabolizebassinboy: xine or mplayer.01:39
Cervantes_okay, I'll try that sara_poo01:39
sara_pooCervantes_: thats your system recognizing it, prolly as sd something01:39
sara_pooCervantes_: my ipod is sda01:39
bassinboyparabolize: tansk01:39
jpie...01:39
tmanHey ookii are you in here?01:40
sara_pooCervantes_: my usb key is sdb, and my removeable hd is sdc01:40
Wa77zlol01:40
Wa77zsweet..dude..my sound is still broken01:40
Wa77zwtf01:40
Cervantes_sara_poo: Slow down a sec. ;)  How do I "do dmesg".  Are we talking in the terminal?01:40
sara_pooWa77z: limewire, amule, xmule, gift-box, etc.01:40
jpieOkay, this is stupid. Now that I installed a bad version of Debian, I have GRUB, and it doesnt check to see if CD-Rom will be bootable. Itj ust goes straight to GRUB and its annoying the crap out of me. Can anyone help? I just need to uninstall GRUB or Debian atleast. I am a complete newbie to linux just trying to test it out on a different comp.01:40
sara_pooCervantes_: yup, type 'dmesg'01:40
sara_pooin terminal01:40
Wa77zwhats ur fav01:40
sara_pooWa77z: itunes :)01:41
Cervantes_sara_poo: That's what I figured.  Except, it says the command is not found.  I'm on 4.1001:41
Wa77zya..sure01:41
holycowjpie, that has nothing to do with grub01:41
jpiepeople tell me to just reboot andp ut cd in drive, but it doesnt work. GRUB is taking over the first to boot.01:41
Wa77zu got i tunes hack01:41
holycowjpie, thats a bios setting01:41
jpieBios is set to have CDrom drive first.01:41
dooglus_jpie: did you look at your BIOS settings?  in there you can tell it to boot from the CD first01:41
sara_poodmesg01:41
tmanI need help with libdvdcss library not being recognized.  Any takers?01:41
dooglus_jpie: aah.01:41
dooglus_jpie: have you ever been able to boot from the CD?01:41
jpiecdroim 1st, floppy 2nd, HDD 3rd,01:41
jpieYes01:41
sara_pooCervantes_: dmesg is in /bin  should be in every users path01:42
jpiebefore i installed debian/grub..01:42
bassinboyparabolize: xine crashes ><01:42
jpiedid it late last night so didnt get to play with it much. Now I come back today and nothing works..01:42
holycowjpie, it still has nothing to do with grub01:42
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holycowjpie, it means either your cdrom is bad, or your cdrom is not recognized properly01:42
parabolizebassinboy: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs01:42
dooglus_jpie: I ask because I had the same problem a couple of weeks ago.  that was on a computer with a DVD and a CDROM on the same IDE cable.  The DVD was the 'master', and wouldn't boot.  I switched the jumpers on both drivers, so the CDROM was the master, and after that I could boot the ubuntu install disk.01:42
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holycowjpie, grub only gives you the debian options ONCE THE BIOS HAS DECIDED TO BOOT FROM THE HD01:42
jpieHow does it not have anything to do with GRUB? GRUB will not let me boot from cddrive. whenever i start up it goes straight to GRUB..01:43
bassinboyman every freakin  program has crashed on me... i didn't know ubuntu was this bad01:43
WMCoolmondoes anyone know why two separate network cards (a linksys and a d-link) wouldn't work under kubuntu?01:43
holycowoh what dooglus said, check cable thats one most newbs miss01:43
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Cervantes_sara_poo:  Oh okay, didn't know I had to cd.  Thanks, I'll try matching these messages up now01:43
jpieI only have 1 optical drive...01:43
budluvaWMCoolmon, dont know, but i run 2 nics in my ubuntu box no problems01:43
dooglus_jpie: I couldn't work out how to take the drives out, so I spent a few hours with a pair of tweezers and a torch to switch the jumpers over.  most fun I've had in months.01:43
holycowjpie, we don't like repeating our selves, primarily because we don't go out of our way to lie to you01:43
sara_pooCervantes_: you don't have to cd.  It should be in your path01:43
sara_poook, i've commented everything basically out of my xorg.conf, going to go crash X again with my tricky nvidia card.  ?01:43
holycowjpie, yes, its a bios/hardware/cdrom issue, grub only comes in to give youd ebian ONLY options ONCE THE BIOS BRINGS UP THE HD01:44
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dooglus_jpie: try booting from a CD that you know that drive can boot from.  I know that some drives won't boot the ubuntu CD, even though they'll boot other CDs01:44
jpieokay, so why does it skip the cdrom? It didnt do it before i installed debian to the harddrive.01:44
dooglus_jpie: on the same disk?01:44
holycowjpie, BECAUSE YOUR CDROM ISN'T BEING RECOGNIZED, YOUR CD IS BAD, YOUR CDROM IDE CABLE IS FAULTY01:44
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bassinboyparabolize: link doesn't seem to work, check it01:44
jpieIt booted ubuntu cd, debian cd, or any other cd, before debian installed. I havent changed anything.01:44
sara_poowhat file can i change to lower my runlevel, so gdm doesn't kick off at boot time?01:45
holycowyour jumper settings on your devices are wrong01:45
sara_pooor xdm, or whatever that thing is01:45
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jpieOkay01:45
holycowgrub has NOTHIGN TO DO WITH BOOTING OFF THE CDROM01:45
bystanderjpie: you don't seem to be paying attention...01:45
bassinboyparabolize: nvm, it was my browser01:45
parabolizebassinboy: yes it works01:45
holycowsorry, just wanted to make that lear :)01:45
jpieI most certainly am..01:45
jpieBut everything was FINE01:45
dooglus_it's unlikely to be any of those 3, holycow?  he used to be able to boot the ubuntu cd, and hasn't changed anything.01:45
jpiebefore01:45
holycowdooglus_, it most certainly is01:45
holycowgrub has nothing to do with booting off the cdrom01:46
jpieand now I cant choose anything but to boot debian01:46
jpie-NOTHING- has changed.01:46
sara_poodooglus_: if your bios is set to look at your cdrom first, it won't see your mbr at all01:46
bystanderjpie: then something has gone wrong with your BIOS or hardware01:46
dooglus_jpie: did you open the machine?01:46
jpiemachine is opened all the time.01:46
sara_poodooglus_: it'll be looking at the mbr on your cdrom, did grub right to that? (neat trick...)01:46
sara_poo*write01:46
biffurtcan anyone tell me how I can find out what type of audio I'm using? I'm trying to configure wxvlc, but I can't get the audio working01:46
biffurtIt works fine in other applications01:46
dooglus_sara_poo: what do you mean?01:46
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dooglus_sara_poo: did you mean to address that to jpie?01:47
sara_poodooglus_: yup, sorry01:47
dooglus_ok01:47
sara_poojpie: look up01:47
sara_poo:)01:47
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jpiei'll go Okay....bios is set for the cdrom drive first01:47
jpiehd last01:47
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calc"The Java Desktop System will continue to exist as a product, but now chiefly as software based on Sun's Solaris operating system and directed at programmers,"  seems Ubuntu killed JDS ;)01:47
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holycowjpie, check yoru cdrom jumper settings, try anoter ide cable01:48
dooglus_will debian kill ubuntu now that they're releasing again?01:48
jpiebios has been saved countless amounts of times that way, and hasnt changed.01:48
holycowjpie, lots of things can go wrong to trick the bios into not 'seeing' your cdrom of boot partition on the cd it self01:48
holycowdooglus_, thats a stupid thing to say01:48
sara_poojpie: it's probably not a bootable cd, or a _damaged_ bootable cd01:49
holycowdooglus_, the relationship is symbiotic01:49
dooglus_holycow: there are no stupid questions.  just stupid people.01:49
Cervantes_sara_poo: dmesg gives me a really long list.  What should I be looking for in particular?  I notice there's a lot of "Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block ..." and some other things with sda, even though my usb key is plugged in.  I've tried doing some things with mount; maybe that messed something up.01:49
holycowno thats a stupid question01:49
jpieerr. okay...I know what a jumper is, but donno where its found. I'll pull comp over here and look. Also, my IDE cable is hooked to my hd & cd drive01:49
sara_pooCervantes_: what filesystem is your usb key?01:49
bystanderholycow: I suspect it was rhetorical01:49
holycowah :) then i withdraw if so01:49
Cervantes_FAT, I believe01:49
cafuegoyes, I'm with Debian and in weeks time we're going to find Ubuntu users and kill them with pitchforks.01:50
Cervantes_sara_poo: FAT, I believe. I can plug it into my windows machine if need be to check01:50
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dooglus_no, it was asked out of ignorance.  I've been using mandrake for a couple of years and am really quite new to the whole .deb thing01:50
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Mez:P01:50
holycowthats okay, ubuntu and debian are NOT in competition01:50
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MezCoC people01:50
airmikeyneed to find out how much ram is installed ,and how much is being used01:50
dooglus_i read somewhere that a lot of people started using ubuntu because debian was taking so long to release sarge.  I'm wondering if the release of sarge will draw people back to debian, away from ubuntu01:51
Cervantes_sara_poo: Yep, it's FAT.  Just checked01:51
holycowubuntu just freezes debian unstable every 6 months and polishes it up for a Desktop system01:51
cafuegoairmikey: 'free'01:51
biffurtcan anyone tell me how I can find out what type of audio I'm using? I'm trying to configure wxvlc, but I can't get the audio working01:51
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daohey01:51
daoi got a question01:51
bystanderairmikey: cat /proc/meminfo01:51
daoi just installed ubuntu, and it never asked to set up a root password01:51
calcholycow: except for the part about debian unstable being out of date ;)01:51
holycowwhich happens to be a very SPECIAL instance of a distro, debian is a little more generic and you can do a lot more with it but it rerquires a lot more elbow grease too01:51
calcholycow: eg xorg01:51
dao... im a gentoo user.. just switched over to try it out01:51
jpieokay01:51
sara_poohow do i set gdm to not run at boot time?  I think i need to lower my run level?01:51
daoanyone heard of this situation?01:51
jpiecan i get a second ide cable01:51
sara_pooCervantes_: what message do you get when you try to mount it?01:52
jpieand plug the cddrive into a second ide slot on the mobo?01:52
holycowcalc, hehe, *nod* i'm glossing over that with 'elbow grease' :)01:52
calcdao: there is no root password01:52
holycowthey will get there, debian should not be interefered with tho, they do great work01:52
daowhat the....01:52
bystandersara_poo: edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager and comment it out01:52
daohow can there be no root?01:52
Mezdooglus_ debian and ubuntu are working really well together, ubuntu takes a lot from debian, but it's also giving back for the simple fact that when ubuntu devs fix bugs, they send them back to be fixed in debain/upstream - which contributes to the community as a whole... I think debian and ubuntu work well togehter... :D01:52
calcdao: root is locked out by default and the main user has sudo access01:52
daohmm...01:52
daoso ... how do i get root?01:52
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Mezdao: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo01:52
dooglus_dao "sudo -s"01:52
sara_poodao: you have to hack it01:52
holycowwhat mez said, please note: ubuntu freezes debian unstable EVERY 6 MONTHS01:53
sara_poodao: to probe yourself to the ubuntu gods01:53
calci do sudo su -, but there are probably other ways01:53
daowhat the01:53
Mezholycow... not exactly... but thereabouts01:53
sara_poodid debian users steal the root user or somethign?01:53
daokinda odd isnt it?01:53
holycowoutside of a number of customizations that are added on later, it is defacto debian by virtue of its dev process01:53
daocuz sudo -s asked for a password01:53
airmikeycafuego: thx01:53
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sara_poodao: just sudo everything01:53
dooglus_holycow: when did/will breezy freeze debian stable?01:53
airmikeybystander:thx01:53
calcdao: the password sudo asks for is your own01:53
Cervantes_sara_poo: That depends on what I type in when trying to mount it.  The first thing I tried (found some code at ubuntuforums.org) was "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb01:53
daoSUDO asks for a password01:53
bystanderairmikey: no problem :)01:54
daoand i dont know the root password...01:54
holycowdooglus_, check ubuntu website, schedule is on there01:54
airmikeyhow much is  90666001:54
dooglus_dao it wants your password, not root's01:54
daomine doesnt work01:54
Mezdao - sudo asks for the current users password as a reaffirmation that someone hasnt just walked up and typesd "sudop" bla!"01:54
sara_poodao: Cervantes_ what ddi that say?01:54
Cervantes_sara_poo: Typing that yields: mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist01:54
dooglus_Mez: only if nobody used sudo in the last 5 (?) minutes01:54
sara_pooCervantes_: try sda201:54
daonvm i hacked this thing ;)01:54
daothanks01:54
dooglus_Mez: otherwise it doesn't ask them01:54
calcdao: is the user you are logged in as the user you created during install?01:54
daobbl01:54
sara_pooCervantes_: try this too:  fdisk -l /dev/sda01:54
sara_pooCervantes_: that will list the partitions on /dev/sda01:55
Meztrue dooglus - but that's something that cna be easily changed if you're scared ;)01:55
daoi was baffled by this lol.. first linux distro with no root that ive used01:55
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calcdao: the only person with sudo access by default on an ubuntu install is the user created during install01:55
daono "root".. as in, you set it up that way01:55
holycowdooglus_, of course, don't be repeating anything i told you about ubuntu in #debian, they would be *cough* highly offended *cough*01:55
holycowhehe :)01:55
sara_poook, off to crash x again01:55
sara_pooCervantes_: i'll be back in a minute01:55
Cervantes_sara_poo: Tried the fdisk and it did not return anything01:55
biffurtcan anyone tell me how I can find out what type of audio I'm using? I'm trying to configure wxvlc, but I can't get the audio working01:55
Cervantes_sara_poo: ok01:55
Mezsara_poo, updating to breezy ? :P01:55
dooglus_holycow: is it just me, or is the ubuntu website very hard to find anything on?01:55
ookiii think about about to move back to deb (based on someone's reccomendation in this channel actually), is it going to be really hard to get to where ubuntu is upon normal installation?01:55
sara_pooMez: no, just new to ubuntu, and for some reason X crashes on login01:55
puddleboyi am fairly certain my dog is indeed retarded.01:55
dooglus_holycow: I find the easiest way to nagivate it is by using google!01:55
ookiibah i'm about01:55
holycowdooglus_, not you, google the site, its easier01:55
sara_pooMez: gdm works, np, but i type a username/password then my system freezes01:56
Mezah sounds fun sara_poo have you tried reconfiguring X ?01:56
holycow lol yeah :)01:56
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Cervantes_What does sda mean, btw?01:56
dooglus_holycow: it's a pretty site, but a nagivational nightmare01:56
sara_pooMez: i just commented out 1/2 of my xorg.conf, all modules, etc.01:56
sara_pooCervantes_: 'scsi devia a i think?01:56
Mezhmm - not good idea sara_poo you shoudlktn edit it manually01:56
sara_pooCervantes_: it's scsi emulation i think01:56
Mezif yous till need help after - PM me and I'll try help youk sara_poo01:56
Cervantes_sara_poo ooh ok :)01:57
sara_pooMez: ok, thanks for the help01:57
holycowdooglus_, well yeah i guess, but i'm not one to complain.  perhaps a good cms is called for, i donno01:57
jpieomg okay01:57
jpieits at the ubuntu screen.01:57
jpieI switched the ide cable around01:57
dooglus_holycow: even a google search for "site:www.ubuntulinux.org breezy" doesn't find the date that breezy was/(will be) frozen01:57
Mezdooglus: rthat would be becaus eit's on udu.wiki.ubuntu.com01:57
Mezor udu.ubuntu.com/wiki01:57
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MezJuly 7th = upstream version freeze (ish)01:58
Mezhttp://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule01:58
jpiehowever. The last time i installed, it stopped on opening a package. went to 1%, then screen reset, and it tried opening the same package again, after going to 1%, it reset monitor. it did this about 15-20 times, and then just sat at a blank screen with blinking cursor.01:58
holycowdooglus_, i think there may be an overall 'good' idea behind the organization of ubuntu, i haven't clued into it yet, i'm too busy using it to do work on01:58
holycow:)01:58
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daocant apt-get install fluxbox eh01:58
dao:(01:58
LexiCon[gsr-dj] ok...can anyone help me set up my ethernet card? it wasn't detected by the system when I installed :(01:59
jpieAnyone in reference to what problem I am having?01:59
Mezdao - yes you can01:59
daohow do i update the application list?01:59
holycowdooglus_, mostly tho next version of ubuntu isn't as important as the next versions of say open office, gnome, kde, and other biggies.  gnome 2.10 has really made me love desktop linux01:59
Mezdao - but ti's in universe01:59
daoso how do i do it?01:59
holycowLexiCon[gsr-dj] , do you know what model and make the nic is?01:59
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holycowLexiCon[gsr-dj] , generally if debian/ubuntu don't detect it, it means its obscure and not supported02:00
Juhazholycow, hardly anyone is going to install those by hand, though, so distros are just as important in getting the "biggies" to users02:00
chromatehas anybody else noticed that the torrents are not working?02:00
Mezdao: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list02:00
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Mezit t will have instructions tin there02:00
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holycowJuhaz, *nod* good point agreed02:01
holycowchromate, what do you mean?02:01
daok02:01
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chromateholycow: problem connecting to tracker02:01
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daowtf02:01
daoapt-get kinda blows compared to emerge02:02
holycowchromate, not sure torrent clients here work great, trackers die all the time02:02
daodoesnt even see eterm :/02:02
Mezhow so dao ?02:02
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daoapt-get install eterm02:02
holycoware we downloading maybe something we shouldn't be?02:02
holycow:)02:02
daodoesnt get eterm for me02:02
holycowfirst its sudo apt-get install eterm02:02
twb_how do i insttall new gpu drivers?02:02
holycowsecon you need to search for the name02:02
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chromateholycow: so are there other trackers with the ubuntu cds?02:02
holycowtry apt-cache search eterm02:02
bystanderdao: that isn't apt - that's your lack of repositories02:02
daoBuilding dependency tree... Done02:02
daoE: Couldn't find package eter02:02
daoah02:02
holycowthird eterm may not be in the main repositories02:02
daoi see.. how do i get more then?02:03
Mezagain dao - eterm is in universe02:03
holycowgo to /etc/apt/sources.list and enable the universe repositories02:03
holycowthen sudo apt-get update02:03
holycowapt-cache search eterm02:03
twb_anyone know of some tutorials for Ubuntu?02:03
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Mezdao  - edit /etc/apt/sources.list - it gives you instructions in there to edit certian lines to enable universe02:03
holycowsudo apt-get install etermpackagewhateveritscalled02:03
Meztwb_ http://www.ubuntuguide.org02:03
FlannelKingit's just eterm02:03
twb_ty02:03
holycowdao, in otherwords, learn to use the tool before complaining02:03
daotrue02:03
daostill dumb that it doesnt have such a widely used program though02:04
holycownot dumb02:04
holycowthere are reasons02:04
daonot even aterm02:04
dao:|02:04
daolol02:04
holycowprimarily there is a ctuoff point for support02:04
FlannelKingit does have it though, just not supported by Ubuntu02:04
daoi just gotta get used to it02:04
bystanderdao: it does - you just didn't know how to find it02:04
holycowubuntu officially supports 2k packages for which you can buy support02:04
holycoweterm just isn't on that list02:04
daoi could just go to sourceforge.net02:04
jpieOkay. When installing ubuntu im having a problem with "Unpacking scsi-extra-modules-2.6.10.5-386" the file goes to 1%, then screen flickers, and it restarts recieving/unpacking the file. I tried on two other discs, and the same thing happened. It does this 15-20 times, then it sits at black screen with a blinking cursor in the bottom left hand corner of screen.02:04
Mezdao: see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view for more details02:04
holycowor you can use gentoo02:04
daobut i dont wanna, thats why i'd use somethin like emerge02:04
daok thanks02:04
dao:)02:05
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Mezdao - if you want to use emerge - get gentoo02:05
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daoive been using it for a LONG time02:05
bystanderdao: you just need to configure it is all02:05
daoheard good things about this02:05
daoroger... will do02:05
dao;)02:05
sara_pooportage on ubuntu?02:05
sara_poosounds spooky02:05
daolol02:05
holycowdao, well then learn to use the tool, and learn to understand the why and when and how02:05
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Mezyeah sara_poo someone requested a backport of it earlier02:06
holycowif you want gentoo use that, why expect gentoo type nonsense on ubuntu?02:06
jpieAnyone know?02:06
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sara_pooit would be simplier to create your own .deb's i would guess02:06
holycowjpie, what kind of hardware do you have on your machine?02:06
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sara_pooI just came from gentoo, i lost my patience for compiling from source for everything02:06
=== bystander gets a bit tired of gentoobies who can't be bothered to learn apt
sara_pooand wanted to try something new02:06
Wa77zwhat do yall think of the qtella file sharing app02:06
Mezjpie - your best bet is to email cjwatson@ubuntu.com02:06
holycowjpie, i've had one debian install fail for someone in the netherlands on some obscure scsi/mobo related issues02:06
alberto_my sound card still not working........ what does this message mean ?02:06
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biffurtsorry to keep spamming, but can anyone tell me how I can find out what type of audio I'm using? I'm trying to configure wxvlc, but I can't get the audio working02:06
twb_anyone know of a way to modify folders, i.e (windows) My computer>C:>Networx (instead of Program files)???02:07
xxtremesara_poo= is gentoo really worth it02:07
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jpiepentium sempron i think, 433mhz, 128mb ram, 12g harddrive, some other stuff..02:07
biffurtI thought it was oss, but it's asking me for a dsp. But there's no dsp in /dev/, I'm compltely lost.02:07
holycowbystander, me too, there are like 5 commands or so that you need to know02:07
holycowbystander, its like trivial to use02:07
Meztwb_ what? this is linux - not windows - the filesystems w3ork differently02:07
sara_pooxxtreme: I have no problems with gentoo, but I'm here.   I used debian a few years ago, and it seems ubuntu has fixed many of the reasons i switched from debian... so i'm back02:07
daoi was surprised how easy the installation was02:07
vi4mhello, my nxclient displays plain form with one button (on Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary) installed from backports ... is it known bug ?02:07
daowow.. and fast02:07
sara_pooxxtreme: gentoo is good, but portage is not flawless.  You can get yourself into trouble with it.02:07
sara_pooxxtreme: and its slow02:08
holycowjpie, no scsi hardware?02:08
sara_pooxxtreme: compile kde-base from source Zzzzzzzzzzzz........02:08
Mezvi4m - what was hte package name ?02:08
daodont know why fluxbox install wont work from source either :S02:08
jpieerr, What would scsi hardware be? Sorry. Im oblivious to everything atm. Too many things going on at the house to think..02:08
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Mezdao - It's really simple02:08
MezI ahte haveing to do this but02:08
absinthe_I've decided to distro-hop for awhile. Any distro-reccomendations?02:09
vi4mMez: freenx02:09
xxtremesara_poo= I often think about gentoo, and should I try it, but I hear its hard, I love ubuntu, especiall kde 3.4, I came over from BDS, Redhat, Mandrake, and Yoper02:09
holycowjpie, scsi hard drive as opposed to ide hard drive, usually its faster, smaller, noisier and more reliable02:09
Mezdao: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories02:09
holycowor scsi cdrom02:09
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bystanderdao: and http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html02:09
holycowjpie, just curious, how did you get it to boot of cdrom?02:09
LexiCon[gsr-dj] holycow: there's been a bunch of Marvell Yukon drivers floating around02:09
FlannelKingIts got a smaller cable, instead of a big ribbon02:09
jpieMy CD drive is on an ide cable, so is my harddrive. Is scsi like S/ATA?02:09
Meztwb_ have a look at edit-> preferences ->downloads in firefox02:09
LexiCon[gsr-dj] so I'm guessing this nic would use around the same drivers02:09
Mezit'll let you change wher eit downloads to there02:10
sara_pooxxtreme: it's worth a shot i guess.  I would think it's good for users who are patient and have a high attention to detail.  (slackware with package management)02:10
holycowLexiCon[gsr-dj] , its possible they aren't in debian :/ i don't know i've never heard of that before unfortunately02:10
jpieholycow: I flipped the ide cable around to have CDDrive on the end, and HDD in the middle.02:10
holycowjpie, heh, i've had similar situation02:10
twb_Mez: great thx02:10
daook02:11
xxtremesara_poo, I had a lot of patience with BSD and Redhat, I'm very happy here, it just sits in the back of mind, thats all02:11
absinthe_Any distro reccomendations?02:11
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daowill someone list ONE program that is up for apt-get install?02:11
LexiCon[gsr-dj] http://www.marvell.com/products/pcconn/yukon/index.jsp02:11
jpieit might just be problems with the crappy Compaq computer. they control everything. I cant do crap with the computer. No overclocking/voiding of warranties of any kind.02:11
daocuz ... all the stuff i use isnt being found02:11
holycowdao, say what?02:11
sara_pooabsinthe_: ubuntu02:11
Mezvi4m we havent had any bug reports about it yet... and it's in main backports - make a bug report topic here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=4702:11
alberto_how can i get kernel 2.6.10 from apt-get02:11
sara_poodao: apt-get install vigor02:11
holycowdao, debian has 16 000 apps in repositores, as does ubuntu in universe02:11
absinthe_sara_poo, lol yeah I love Ubuntu but I want to experiment02:11
xxtremesara_poo, im happy helping others with ubunta, and also learning more02:11
daowtf is vigor lol02:11
Mezdao - try running synaptic, that will list them all for you02:11
holycowdao, i cannot believe you use such esoteric stuff that not even one would be found02:11
daoi enabled the universe thing.... :S02:12
daostill nada02:12
bystanderdao: you've been told repeatedly how to fix your problem - if you don't want to, by all means use gentoo02:12
holycowthen sudo apt-get update02:12
xxtremesara_poo, thanks02:12
holycowyou need to update the database02:12
daompg123.. fluxbox, eterm, aterm02:12
sara_pooabsinthe_: check out #linuxhelp ?02:12
daonot esoteric02:12
absinthe_sara_poo, Ok thanks02:12
holycowthen apt-cache search app <-- that searches the database, not apt repositories02:12
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SpecialBuddydoes anyone here know anyting about wine02:12
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twb_Mez: another question, i just dl'ed new drivers for gpu, but when  open it it says "could not open file.."02:13
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jpieso does my hardware have anything to do with the installation not completing on "Unpacking scsi-extra-modules-2.6.10.5-386" ?02:13
holycowrobtaylor_, thats a fine name you got there02:13
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holycowkinda like mine02:13
holycow:)02:13
Meztwb - probably a corrupt file, or in a format you dont have a progrM RO UAW02:13
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holycowSpecialBuddy, i don't use it much, what do you need to know?02:13
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sara_poowow, x windows is pretty02:14
twb_mez: its a .run02:14
sara_poowoo hoo02:14
holycowdao, all that shit is there, you just need to learn apt, its like 6 commands or so, sheesh02:14
Mezhmm02:14
sara_pooDRI had to be commented out i think,  it was on Mode 0666 and that wasn't in my xorg.conf from my gentoo install02:14
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twb_o me02:14
jpieIf I install another distro, like Debian, will it automatically have a GUI? I didnt have problems with that before, but my apt stuff was messed up.02:15
twb_there a way to convert to diff. format?02:15
holycowjpie, if you select the desktop configuration yes02:15
Meztwb_ run files cause problems for me no matter what i do or what distro I use. I'd suggest trying a different format02:15
SpecialBuddyholycow, i just need to know why when I install something I can't seem to see the folder it was installed to02:15
Wa77zwhat is the .tar.gz file ext. is it like an .exe for windows..or like a .rar or what02:15
jpieokay. i'll try that. Ubuntu is just gonna have to wait till I get my cd's in :)02:15
holycowSpecialBuddy, what do you mean 'see folder'?02:16
FlannelKingwa77z its a gzip of a tar file, so it's like .zip02:16
holycowSpecialBuddy, most apps are spread accross the system, unlike windows02:16
Wa77zaight02:16
holycowSpecialBuddy, binary files are usually in /usr/bin02:16
Wa77zthank you02:16
holycowhelp files somewhere else, config stuff in /etc02:16
holycowand so on02:16
sara_poo /clear02:16
SogniXanyone know how to get Window Maker to install on the current version of Ubuntu? I've not had any luck and I can't find help online - everything refers to an older version of Ubuntu.02:16
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SpecialBuddywell I'm trying to install ares and I did install it and it works but I can't find any of my files02:17
sara_pooSogniX: i think you have to change your apt-get sources somehow, I'm working on that also02:17
holycowSpecialBuddy, what are you looking for exactly?02:17
SogniXI figured that, just not figured out to what :)02:17
jpieokay02:18
SpecialBuddyjust mp3's or where they are being downloaded to02:18
jpieUbuntu disc was just booting02:18
jpiebut when i put debian disc in02:18
FlannelKingSogniX: WindowMaker is in universe02:18
bystanderSogniX: uncomment universe lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, update, then install wmaker02:18
jpieIt still is trying to boot GRUB...What is wrong with this thing? It got an error though02:18
holycowSpecialBuddy, you can do sudo updatedb02:19
holycowSpecialBuddy, that will update the locate db and then you can do locate filename02:19
holycowthat will give you a really fast way to search for files02:19
SpecialBuddyok02:19
SogniXI don't have universe in /etc/apt/sources.list02:19
holycowyesh updatedb is a pain, someone is working on something called rlocate which caches files system info automatically, not sure if/when that will get into debian tho02:20
bystanderSogniX: yes, you do if it's a default file - it even tells you how to uncomment them02:20
SpecialBuddyI just don't get it because I can see where ie and all of that stuff is located but ares isn't there02:20
alberto_Is there a different respocitory for apt-get, where i can get the kernel 2.6.10 using apt-get ?02:20
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bystanderSogniX: read the comments in the file02:20
SogniXit tells me to uncomment them - but they are missing... The file may have been overwritten.02:20
Wa77zever since i upgraded my firefox in the updates section of ubuntu..i got an xml error02:21
Wa77zwhen i download something02:21
FlannelKingthe kernal is in the base repo02:21
holycowSogniX, here is my sources.list file --> http://pastebin.ca/1621602:22
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bystanderSogniX: odd- in that case run `sudo apt-setup ` , then uncomment the lines (apt-setup will make a new file for you )02:22
FlannelKingalberto_: search for linux-image-2.6.1002:22
Mezalberto_,  ubuntu comes with 2.6.10 by default I think02:22
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SogniXoh yeah - defenatly different than mine02:22
holycowoh what bystander said, that should work too02:22
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holycowSpecialBuddy, not sure what you mean, which part don't you understand?02:23
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alberto_nothing02:23
alberto_root@LapTors:~ # apt-cache search linux-image-2.6.1002:23
alberto_root@LapTors:~ #02:23
SpecialBuddyok02:23
SpecialBuddynow stuff is showing up that wasn't there before02:23
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alberto_i have 2.6.802:23
bystanderalberto_: apt-cache search linux-image02:23
SpecialBuddyso is that just refreshing the system02:23
Mezalberto_, it uses 2.6.10 as default02:23
tonyHELP!!  I was using 1600x1200 resolution, after rebooting I only get 640x480...02:24
bystanderalberto_: you are using warty then right?02:24
holycowSpecialBuddy, no, locate is an application, it doesn't search the system it searches its database02:24
bystanderalberto_: cat /etc/issue to see02:24
SpecialBuddyno02:24
SpecialBuddythe other thing02:24
holycowSpecialBuddy, you need to do sudo updatedb to update the database02:24
SogniXis there anything I need to do to make the changes take effect - or will it work the next time I run apt-get?02:24
SpecialBuddyupdateb02:24
Bolshow can I install multiuniverse packages, plz?02:24
alberto_root@LapTors:~ # cat /etc/issue02:24
alberto_Ubuntu 4.10 "Warty Warthog" \n \l02:24
holycowSpecialBuddy, way ahead of you :)02:25
Mezaha :D a warty user.02:25
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alberto_:-/02:25
MezI'd suggest upgrading to hoary if i were you alberto_02:25
holycowSogniX, you need to sudo apt-get update02:25
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tonyCan anyone help with my screen resolution prob?02:25
SpecialBuddyok02:25
holycowSogniX, apt-get uses a database to store information about a repository02:25
bystanderBols: add the word "multiverse" to your universe lines in /etc/apt/sources.list02:25
norahAnybody had troubling with acpi and Athlon XP-m ? I can modprobe the powernow-k7 og powernow-k8 module .02:25
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Mezalberto - I'll PM you if thats ok and give help on how to upgrade?02:25
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alberto_mez is there a howto on upgrading the distro ?02:25
SpecialBuddythats good to know because now I can see the files and folders02:25
alberto_tMez thank you so much02:25
SpecialBuddyholycow, thanks02:25
holycowSogniX, in order for apt to know what to do you need to update the database when you add/modify repository information in sources.list02:25
Bolsbystander, already tried that... but it doesn't seem to work :/02:26
holycowSpecialBuddy, no worries, just paying back what i recieved02:26
bystanderBols: did you run ` sudo apt-get update ` ?02:26
tonyCan anyone see my post???02:26
SpecialBuddywell I was getting frustrated not knowing where it went02:26
norahMy Athlon xp-m overheats and shuts down :'( can't modprobe powernow-k802:26
holycowSpecialBuddy, sure, or how to find it, or why finding it is obscure, understood02:27
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Bolsbystander, yes.. I get this error : Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/multiuniverse Packages02:27
bystanderBols: spelling error02:27
SpecialBuddyyeah02:27
bystanderBols: multiverse02:27
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Bolserm.. ok, thx02:27
twb_does anyone know how to set up Ventrilo on Ubuntu?02:27
LinuxNewbiehello can anyone help me out with ubuntu02:28
LinuxNewbieim new with linux02:28
twb_me 202:28
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LinuxNewbieso can anyone help us out?02:28
twb_dude, i dk02:29
budluvajust ask already02:29
holycowtwb_, chances are higher that some of that info could be googled quicker, than the chance of running into someone here that would know02:29
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bystanderLinuxNewbie: just ask a question - if someone can help they will02:29
twb_kk thx02:29
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holycowLinuxNewbie, the rules are: be nice, be polite, just ask, don't be annoying02:29
holycowLinuxNewbie, so whats your question/s?02:29
FlannelKingLinuxNewbie, it might help you to look over the forums as well.02:29
Wa77zomfg god...if i reboot i have to unplug andplug back in my mouse to get it to keep workin02:29
LinuxNewbieok here it is, i just installed ubuntu and then when it loaded it did not go to the x server02:30
Wa77zotherwise..it is not recognized02:30
LinuxNewbieive tried startx02:30
LinuxNewbiebut command not found02:30
LinuxNewbiei think it did not load some library02:30
holycowlinuxboy, what kind of video card does your system have?02:30
SogniXthanks for your help! :)02:30
holycowLinuxNewbie, not linuxboy02:30
holycowheh02:30
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LinuxNewbieits via02:30
MezLinuxNewbie, did you tyry a custom or server install ?02:30
Wa77zthis is gay....and my sound dont work all the time02:31
norahHi :) anybody had troubles with ACPI and CPU-overheat with an AMD Athlon XP-m ?02:31
Wa77zits only some of the time02:31
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norahCan't modprobe the powernow modules :S02:31
holycowLinuxNewbie, login as the user and do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:31
norahit tells that device not found .02:31
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LinuxNewbieok wait ill try that02:31
holycowthat should give you a chance to reconfig yoru server via at least a wizard type of interface02:31
KhaBalhi guys02:31
holycowwe can try other things later02:31
Wa77zcan someone help me figure out my mouse prblem02:31
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LinuxNewbieive try sudo dpkg-reconfigure02:32
LinuxNewbieit ask me a password02:32
holycowyes02:32
Wa77zit is not recognized when i reboot....i have to unplug it and plug it back in..then it works fine02:32
holycowtype in the password you used to login with02:32
athlonhow often do packages get updated ? The new Koffice 1.4 was released a week ago, KDE 3.4.1 about a month ago, but so far no packages.02:32
LinuxNewbieok now02:32
tiglionabbitWa77z: ESD will do that.  They're fixing it in breezy, but for now try changing its config like in the restricted formats faq02:32
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Wa77zhunh ?02:32
Mezathlon - the version gets frozxen when it's released02:33
holycowWa77z, sounds like an issue with usb drivers ... not sure how to fix that.  have you tried a different usb mouse just to eliminate that possibility?02:33
tiglionabbityou said your sound didn't work all the time02:33
LinuxNewbieit said specify a packarge to reconfigure02:33
Mezif you want new packages, you either backport them or compile02:33
Wa77zps2 mouse02:33
bystanderathlon: hoary is a stable release - new packages will be in the next release (October)02:33
Mezhowever, kubuntu packages for 3.4.1 and koffice are availabekl02:33
KhaBalim download JSDK package java, >>>>3:30:50 <<<its going to take << sigh02:33
holycowps2 mouse? oh you got me there, sorry not sure where to go from there02:33
Mezhave a look at the news on http://www.kubunut.org02:33
Wa77zit workd great once i unplug and plug it back in02:33
Mezhave a look at the news on http://www.kubuntu.org/ *02:33
holycowLinuxNewbie, scroll up and read my post02:33
holycowi gave you the whole command02:33
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LinuxNewbieok02:33
KhaBalwhats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?02:33
LinuxNewbiewait02:33
holycowKhaBal, one has kde other gnome de02:34
athlonhmm, so, is there any way for me to upgrade  them ? not wanting to get afflicted by versionitis or anything, but I consider .1 release to be quite important cos they usually fix imporant bugs and smoothe the rough edges02:34
Wa77zand also..my sound only works when i play a song..its not consistant02:34
Wa77zfor system sounds its brokeen02:34
KhaBalholycow: gnome=much better02:34
FlannelKingYou can switch between the two of them, without reinstalling, there are instructions at Kubuntu (how to convert from U to K)02:34
holycowKhaBal, i like both, but use gnome02:34
LinuxNewbieok it said xserver-xorg is not installed02:35
holycowFlannelKing, ah neat, yeah that should be easily doable02:35
tiglionabbitWa77z: we know that.  ESD kind of sucks02:35
flughaah, my ubuntu box is purring along smoothly after a first-time 'real' install. i hope you all have a similar happy experience :)02:35
Wa77zim not sure what ESD is02:35
holycowlinuxboy, thats your problem first, you don't have the right components installed02:35
Wa77zi am new to linux..02:35
twb_is Real Plyer neccessary with Ubuntu?02:35
LinuxNewbieah?02:35
Wa77zim sure u can tell by that comment02:35
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LinuxNewbiebut i just followed the instructions in the installation02:36
bystandertwb_: depends what you want to play I guess02:36
holycowanyone here know what the components for xserver are called in ubuntu? i know the debian names ...02:36
tiglionabbitWa77z: Enlightenment Sound Daemon.  It will handle system sounds, but many applications wont play well with it, so you configure it to suspend ESD while running those applications.  But you can only run one of such applications with sound rights at a time02:36
tiglionabbitholycow: xorg02:36
abbot45where can i get a .mp4 codec for totem/mplayer?  i dont think its part of w32.02:36
twb_well, im havng trouble installing it, .exe wont open02:36
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LinuxNewbieim using a AMD sempron02:36
Wa77zic..how can it be fixed02:36
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LinuxNewbieis that a problem?02:36
tiglionabbitWa77z: did you configure ESD like it says in restricted formats?02:36
tiglionabbit!restricted02:36
ubotumethinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:36
Wa77zi dont know how02:37
bystanderholycow: xserver-xorg ( or a more complete package is x-window-system-core)02:37
holycowLinuxNewbie, well first install sudo apt-getinstall xserver-xorg02:37
Wa77zi would like too02:37
holycowthats the first pieces your missing02:37
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holycowor right ... do sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core02:37
LinuxNewbieok ill just type that and insert the CD right?02:37
holycowthats the one :) thanks bystander !02:37
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tonyHello02:37
holycowLinuxNewbie, heh actually before you do that02:37
holycowdoes your ubuntu box have high speed access?02:38
Wa77zor i can just turn off those apps sounds right02:38
holycowLinuxNewbie, do ping www.google.com02:38
holycowtell us if you get a response on your ubuntu box02:38
LinuxNewbiewhat is a ubuntu box?02:38
tonyCan anyony see me?02:38
bystanderholycow: a beeter way might be ` sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop `02:38
flughtony: no02:38
holycowLinuxNewbie, the one you are installing right now02:38
bystander*better02:38
holycowbystander, oh is that the package he should install instead?02:38
tiglionabbitWa77z: make /etc/esound/esd.conf look like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-5bb92da29c02203193ac2fa6d2cfb90064959bec02:38
abbot45mp4 codec?  is there one for xine?02:38
holycowah neat, okay, i've never had to fix ubuntu before :)02:39
LinuxNewbiettl 24102:39
bystanderholycow: that contains all the deps  ( metapackage)02:39
tiglionabbitLinuxNewbie: a box is a computer02:39
tonyHelp I was using 1600X1200, after rebooting I only get 640X480...02:39
cafuegoLinuxNewbie: Like a bento box, but with crunchy cdrom sushi.02:39
LinuxNewbietime28102:39
Wa77zlet me look realquick02:39
tiglionabbitcafuego: rofl02:39
holycowbystander, yeah i'm used to just installing the basics in debian, cool02:39
LinuxNewbiehow do i stop the ping02:39
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WMCoolmonctrl-c02:39
holycowlinuxboy, okay now do this02:39
holycowapt-setup02:39
WMCoolmonLinuxNewbie: ctrl-c02:39
holycowthen select an HTTP repository02:40
tonyCan any one help me?02:40
LinuxNewbieok apt-setup02:40
holycowthen we will just upgrade the whole system simultaneously and add anything thats missing by hand if need be02:40
tiglionabbittony: what did you change?02:40
Wa77zok..how do i find and edit that file02:40
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LinuxNewbiethen it ask for the Cd02:40
LinuxNewbieinsert it02:40
holycowLinuxNewbie, go add an http repository02:40
MezLinuxNewbie, it might be better if you just reinstall from scratch...02:40
tiglionabbitWa77z: that is the exact path.  Go to the root directory and work up from there02:40
tonyI upgraded to the latest kernel02:41
FlannelKingI agree, if youve got a fresh install, just reinstall02:41
Mezand dont do an server /epxert install02:41
JasonMcGuirkAny l33t hax0rz here that can help me with configuring my wireless card for my laptop in ubuntu64?02:41
JasonMcGuirkit was working for awhile02:41
holycowMez, he's mostly there, he just screwed up the the repository part on the install02:41
LinuxNewbieok ive selected http02:41
JasonMcGuirkand then it up and quit on me02:41
tiglionabbitWa77z: or you could open a terminal and type the name of an editing program and then that absolute filename path02:41
LinuxNewbieit prompt me to select a country02:41
holycowyep02:41
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LinuxNewbieshould i select my country?02:41
holycowsure02:41
Mezholycow - not neccessariuly... you dont really know withougt looking...02:42
LinuxNewbiepermission denied02:42
Mezhe might have screwedup completely... it's better to have an automated install rahter than a manual02:42
MezLinuxNewbie, reinstall from the CD... it's easier02:42
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holycowMez, and we also don't know if there is something else is going on, so far we've eliminated a few possibilities, and this is more sensible than starting over02:42
holycowBECAUSE we don't exactly know why the cd install failed02:42
FlannelKingAnd he wont lose anything, and it'll be eaiser02:43
tiglionabbitLinuxNewbie: if you'd like, I can post my sources.list and you can use it02:43
Mezhowever, we also know that a abse ssyetm without sudo = nothingyou can do02:43
holycowpermission denied? heh, do what mez said, reisntall from cd02:43
holycow:)02:43
JasonMcGuirkAny l33t hax0rz here that can help me with configuring my wireless card for my laptop in ubuntu64?02:43
LinuxNewbienow im trying to install from the CD02:43
Mezfinalyl you agree with me holycow02:43
LinuxNewbiepls help me out here02:43
tiglionabbitJasonMcGuirk: wish I could, but it detected mine automatically, so..02:43
holycowMez, sure, but if you could of dist upgraded, why not try?02:43
tiglionabbitJasonMcGuirk: best bet is to check the wiki02:43
LinuxNewbienow im the opening screen02:43
LinuxNewbieit ask me to enter SERVER02:43
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FlannelKingLinuxNewbie, I assume you talking on another machine02:43
bystanderLinuxNewbie: don't02:43
Mezbecause a dist-upgrade would have only upgraded the base packages, whcih dont include any gui :D02:43
LinuxNewbiehuh?02:44
redirJasonMcGuirk, deactivate it and reactivte it02:44
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LinuxNewbiei dont enter server?02:44
MezLinuxNewbie, when it says about entering "server2 just hit enter02:44
Mezdont type anything02:44
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JasonMcGuirkredir: Have tried02:44
Mezthats where you went wrong before02:44
LinuxNewbieok02:44
sara_poox windows is more fun in ubuntu02:44
MezLinuxNewbie, don't type server - just hit enter02:44
_0killsanyone know how to set GNOME up to kill ESD at startup?02:44
tiglionabbitsara_poo: heeeey, irssi is awesome.  You just need to learn to use it02:44
LinuxNewbieok02:44
twb_why wont it let me play an audio CD?!!??!02:44
JasonMcGuirkI can see my routers, it just won't seem to connect02:45
LinuxNewbieive enter the country02:45
tiglionabbitsara_poo: http://f0rked.com/core/irssi02:45
LinuxNewbieenglish etc02:45
Mez_0kills, apt-get remove --purge esd02:45
tiglionabbitwhat's LinuxNewbie trying to do here?02:45
Wa77zok ...what can i use to edit it..Configuration Editor ?02:45
taomasterany easy way 2 install java?02:45
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holycowtiglionabbit, just reinstall, let mez walk him through it02:45
_0killsMez, and that will remove esd entirely?02:45
holycowtoo many people talking to him will confuse him02:45
sara_pootiglionabbit, it's a bit awkward for me, but I have friends who swear by it.  Something as simple as a chat program I don't think i should have to _learn_ how to use02:45
tiglionabbittaomaster: there's a link to it in restricted02:45
JasonMcGuirkAnyone here that can help me fix my wireless drivers in ubuntu 64?02:45
tiglionabbit!restricted02:45
ubotusomebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:45
Mez_0kills, yes02:45
LinuxNewbienow im in the HOST NAME02:45
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sara_pootiglionabbit, a programmers editor for example, i think is worth learning02:46
LinuxNewbieive enter a host name CICST202:46
Mezhmm02:46
_0killsMez, thanks, is that safe to do?02:46
Mezwho controls ubotu02:46
tiglionabbitLinuxNewbie: perhaps you should read an install guide rather than asking us every single thing02:46
Mezif you dont want to use esd then yteah02:46
sara_pooMez, i do.02:46
LinuxNewbieok02:46
_0killsk02:46
sara_pooMez, my hostname is  ubotu02:46
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Mezsara_poo, restricted != RestrictedFormatds02:46
sara_pooMez, if i could only find that damn root pw....02:46
Mezsara_poo, restricted != RestrictedFormats02:46
bystanderMez: it's just a keyword, chill02:47
tiglionabbitsara_poo: actually, irssi is a very useful and beautiful program, which I use as much, or more, than my editors02:47
Wa77ztiglionabbit : i understand what i have to do..im just not sure what exactly the command is i am suppose to type in02:47
sara_pooMez, ?02:47
bystanderMez: and sara_poo is kidding02:47
Mezyeah but it's giving out wrong information02:47
_0killsMez, got an error,  E: Couldn't find package esd02:47
sara_pooi missed that02:47
Wa77zsome thing /etc/blah blah blah02:47
sara_poowell, sorry, didn't realize ... something02:47
sara_pooi guess02:47
bystanderMez: no, it isn't - it's just a shorthand for the wiki URL for restricted formats02:47
tiglionabbitWa77z: try saying "sudo gedit /etc/esound/esd.conf" at the terminal02:48
Wa77znvm02:48
Wa77zi found it02:48
tiglionabbitmake sure you edit it with super user privileges (sudo)02:48
Mezsomebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:48
Wa77zi am just scared to touch anything..i dont reeally know what all these buttons do02:48
Mezleaves confusing about tre restriceted repository02:48
twb_this system wont run anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!02:48
tiglionabbitWa77z: buttons?02:48
sara_pooWa77z, don't touch the red button, that one breaks the internet02:49
twb_why cant i install Raven Shield???02:49
twb_PLEAS HELP!!02:49
Wa77zya i know02:49
tiglionabbitraven shield, what's that?02:49
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sara_pootwb_, whats raven sheild?02:49
LinuxNewbieok can i ask something, in the x server environment02:49
MezRaven Shield = a game02:49
puddleboyits a rainbow 6 game02:49
twb_its a game, Rainbow Six 302:49
tiglionabbittwb_: do you have cedega?02:49
LinuxNewbiecan i create users there?02:49
Wa77zjust like..i dont know how to navigate and use all the apps as well as i can in windows...mostly just where to find files02:49
MezLinuxNewbie, applets are provided for you to mamage users, yes02:49
tiglionabbittwb_: that looks like a windows game.  If you want to run windows programs on ubuntu you'll need to use wine, crossover office, or cedega02:50
LinuxNewbielike in the windows server?02:50
twb_no i don thave cedega02:50
tiglionabbittwb_: then buy it02:50
twb_i have to buy that stuff?02:50
tiglionabbityeah..  sadly02:50
sara_pooi'm a cedega subscriber, I rarely use it anymore though.  some of the native linux games are great now02:50
twb_thats bs02:50
CarlFKyou don't have to buy wine02:50
bystandertwb_: in case you didn't notice, GNU/Linux is a different Operating System *grin*02:50
sara_pootwb_, go install enemy territory, it's free, and the best shooter i've played02:50
sara_poo(free as in beer)02:51
tiglionabbittwb_: well you either buy cedega, use wine for free, play native linux games, or dual boot with windows for your game fix02:51
CarlFKmy ubuntu box doesnt make toast... that's bs too.02:51
_0killssara_poo, where do you get enemy territory from?02:51
ukatofileplanet, right02:51
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twb_well, its not just the game, im having trouble with virtually everything02:51
Wa77zWTF.. i opened the file in a text editor..and i cant change anything02:51
sara_poo_0kills, (afraid of being a gentoo noob...)  emerge enemy-territory-etpro  , but i'm sure we can google for it02:51
bystanderOMG MY LINUX WON"T RUN WINDOWS APPS !! WTF ??02:51
twb_the only thing that seems to be working here is AIM02:51
sara_poo_0kills, i'll find you the site02:51
tiglionabbittwb_: linux isn't windows.  You shouldn't be able to automatically install windows programs on it02:52
Mez_0kills, Enemy-Territory.com02:52
twb_well, i understand that02:52
tiglionabbitthat's like trying to run windows programs on a mac02:52
tiglionabbitor visa versa02:52
_0killssara_poo, Mez, thanks02:52
sara_poohttp://enemy-territory.4players.de:1041/02:52
twb_but can someone plz get me ut of the darlk?02:52
ukatoor linux programs on windows.02:52
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Wa77zdo i need to be root to edit my /etc/esound/esd/conf file02:52
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sara_poowould something like et be in apt-cache search ?02:52
pedingtoEvenin' Folks.02:53
tiglionabbitWa77z: yes.  At a terminal, please say `sudo gedit /etc/esound/esd.conf` without those `s02:53
WMCoolmonhmm, i think my kubuntu install is stuck at "Testing security update repository..."02:53
twb_like......why cant i play my Modest Mouse cd?02:53
twb_ggross!02:53
tiglionabbittwb_: yes.  Just put it in, gnome should handle that02:53
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twb_its not02:53
ukatotwb_, what CD02:53
tiglionabbittwb_: doesn't it plop a CD icon on your desktop?02:53
sara_poowhere is the RTFM pages on apt?  I need to learn how to find stuff, and edit my sources02:53
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bystandertwb_: I bet you don't have a cable from your sound card to your CD player - try playing it in xmms with digital output enabled02:54
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twb_omg....now it wont eject my cd?02:54
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^thehatsrule^thank god02:55
twb_wtf is goin on here02:55
unrealheh02:55
LinuxNewbieif my server is UBUNTU and my client are XP02:55
sara_poolmao02:55
LinuxNewbiethere wont be a problem?02:55
sara_poofirst time i've seen that02:55
nemikstupid script kiddies02:55
sara_pooanother debian user trying to kill us i bet02:55
tiglionabbittwb_: right-click on the cd icon on your desktop, and pick eject02:55
kertratsI seem to have missed something02:55
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ukatohmmm, has anyone used Stratagus before?02:55
twb_i did, 'unable to eject" it says02:55
unrealI pick the best moments to return... right when a script kiddie frog is flooding the channel02:55
sara_poowhere is the RTFM pages on apt?  I need to learn how to find stuff, and edit my sources02:55
tiglionabbitLinuxNewbie: all OSs can play nicely with eachother over a network or the internet02:55
kertratsfirst thing in the door is 'thank god'02:55
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tiglionabbittwb_: perhaps a program is trying to handle it?  Does it say anything else, like "is in use" ?02:56
twb_no02:56
bystandersara_poo: more than you'll ever need to know about apt >> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html02:56
sara_poobystander, thanks02:56
kertratsok, I'm brand new to linux, and I'm finding it difficult to install anything02:56
Wa77zomfg02:56
tiglionabbittwb_: what is the device name of your optical drive?02:56
Wa77zcan you paste that link again02:57
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twb_eh?02:57
twb_device name of optical?02:57
kertratsfor instance, I just downloaded firefox 1.0.4 off the moz.org site, and when I open the installer, it just gives me a bunch of xpi files02:57
Wa77zi cant believe i closed out without saving my bookmark02:57
kertratswhich ones do I use?02:57
bystandertwb_: in a terminal, type   sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/eject   then try ejecting again02:57
tiglionabbitWa77z: what page?02:57
kertratser, I guess that's just in the one folder02:57
Wa77zthe one where it shows me what part to edit02:57
kertratsbut still, it's lost on me02:57
Wa77zthe only one u have pasted for me02:58
tiglionabbitkertrats: use synaptic02:58
Wa77z/etc/esound/esd.conf02:58
Wa77zi need to edit that to make it look like default=options or somethin02:58
sara_poook, before i get cozy and start reading for the night, is there anyway to tweak gnome into having sloppy focus, and shading?  It seems wierd by default....02:58
tiglionabbitWa77z:02:58
tiglionabbit!restricted02:58
ubotufrom memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:58
twb_"too few arguments"....???02:59
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Wa77zaight02:59
bystandertwb_: did you do what I suggested ?02:59
ukatoanyone used Stratagus before?02:59
maeDude, I _love_ tomboy02:59
tiglionabbitsara_poo: system->preferences->windows02:59
twb_yees02:59
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twb_i just want to be able to install programs.....why is it so hard?03:00
sara_pootiglionabbit, thanks03:00
tiglionabbittwb_: to install programs, use Synaptic03:00
tiglionabbittwb_: and forget about your windows CDs03:00
pedingtotwb_ its not hard, if you learn apt-get or even use the Synaptic Package Manager.03:00
bystandertwb_: because you are new and have stuff to learn03:00
twb_whats that and where can i get it?03:00
tiglionabbittwb_: run it.  You already have it03:00
twb_synaptic and apt -get03:01
Wa77zok..now i can change to also right ..instead of esd03:01
bystandertwb_: you are expecting everything to act like windows03:01
whooperhi! I'm trying to install ubuntu on a disk while keeping the existing partitions.. seems like the installer doesn't detects any partitions, so the only choice is to rewrite the whole partition table =/ should it be so? =)03:01
tiglionabbitsystem->admin->synaptic03:01
Wa77zalsa **03:01
pedingtoSynaptic is in System --> Administration --> Synaptic.03:01
twb_im expecting everything to run as easily as windows : /03:01
tiglionabbittwb_: it does.  You just do things differently03:01
sproingieyou'll find apt runs a lot easier than windows03:01
sproingieno more looking for most apps03:01
tiglionabbitsproingie speaks the truth03:01
bystandertwb_: no, you are expecting the same metaphors to apply - and they don't03:01
sproingieno more grabbing dependencies.  they install automagically03:02
bystandertwb_: once you start to get it, it becomes easier03:02
tiglionabbitwell that's a comparison with red hat, sproing03:02
pedingtoOh yeah, once you learn the basics of apt-get google searches to find programs mostly disapeer ;)03:02
sproingieand removal that doesn't take a control panel a minute to start up, only removing one thing at a time03:02
sproingietiglionabbit: eh?  yum grabs deps automatically03:02
tiglionabbitsproingie: that's fedora03:02
maeyum is awful compared to apt03:03
sproingieapt can't handle multiple architectures at once, unfortunately03:03
sproingieyum can03:03
twb_ok, im at synaptic...whats all this?03:03
tiglionabbittwb_: this is a program that searches online software servers called "repositories" which have a bunch of programs you can install.  Hit search, or browse the categories.  Many of them you may never have heard of though03:04
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tiglionabbittwb_: you may profit from reading the restricted formats wiki if you want to do many of the things you did in windows.  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:05
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ciancihi, can someone help me?03:05
tiglionabbitcianci: with what?03:05
SymGeosiscianci, with what?03:05
twb_ok, so how do i know what drivers are installed rigght now, id like to have my SB ZS and Nvidia drivers back03:06
twb_hey still there?03:06
twb_they03:06
BolsWhat's the command to reload the system default locales, plz?03:06
bystandertwb_: I suggest you go and read this: http://www.aboutdebian.com/linux.htm Realise that you are now part of a community and you need to do some reading and legwork to get up to speed. Also make use of google with site:ubuntulinux.org keywords03:06
puddleboyegrsz03:06
misfit_toyubuntu is awesome, but I have found the help here lacking as far as advanced issues, is there another forum for ubuntu?03:06
tiglionabbittwb_: I believe there are nvidia drivers in synaptic, if you add the repositories detailed in the restricted formats faq03:06
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ciancii am trying to move files to a folder where it says i don't have permission to write to it03:06
ciancihow can i move files to that folder03:07
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osirisHello there does anybody run a samsung 172v lcd monitor with ubuntu, as im having problems configuring mine, i have a ghosted image on the cursor and text when in 1280x1024 but not in 1024x768, the monitor definatly supports 1280x1024 @60 and 70hz and i have used the vert and horiz values that i found in the manual and its still the same any help would be brilliant.03:07
Cervantes_sara_poo: I've tried lots of things to get that USB key working, but now when I try to mount it I get the "mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist" message.  Any ideas?  :)03:07
puddleboymisfit_toy, if you are having 'advanced issues' then you should have no problem doing a google search to solve them.03:07
tiglionabbitmisfit_toy: http://ubuntuforums.org ?03:07
SymGeosiscianci, sudo and then cp.03:07
goldfishCervantes_: what does 'fdisk -l' say ....03:08
cianciis there a way where i can move many files at once, SymGeosis?03:08
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ryannhello  i just installed ubuntu and my resolution is mest up03:08
goldfish!resolution03:08
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:08
tiglionabbitcianci: yes.  mv a directory, or many files in a row03:08
ryanni tryed editing the xorg but still i cant chage it03:08
goldfishryann: follow that link03:08
SymGeosiscianci, go the the folder that you would like to move. sudo cp -R *03:08
ryanngoldfish, thanks03:08
goldfishnp03:08
Cervantes_goldfish: lots of things:  shall I private it to you?03:08
goldfishCervantes_: yeah03:08
tiglionabbitwell, dinner time.  I'll be back03:08
cianciSymGeosis, what is the command for that?03:08
SymGeosiscianci, cd [dir] 03:09
SymGeosissudo cp -R *03:09
ciancibut where do i specify the directory location?03:10
misfit_toypuddleboy, tiglionabbit I have googled for 10 hours now and solved a wireless nic issue that was not listed anywhere in google or ubuntuforums, I am just tired, forgive me, I will post the resolution later tonite.03:10
SymGeosisah, sorry. sudo cp -R * [dir] 03:10
twb_ok.....ill try this approach, where is a goo dplace to start....?03:10
cianciexit03:11
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SymGeosisBah, I was just about to direct him to the man files for cp, mv, chmod and chown...03:11
puddleboymisfit_toy I hope you used ndiswrapper03:11
osirisHello there does anybody run a samsung 172v lcd monitor with ubuntu, as im having problems configuring mine, i have a ghosted image on the cursor and text when in 1280x1024 but not in 1024x768, the monitor definatly supports 1280x1024 @60 and 70hz and i have used the vert and horiz values that i found in the manual and its still the same any help would be brilliant.03:11
sara_pooi have a new install, and something is wrong with my apt.  I'm trying to read through the apt- how-to and they say to 'apt-get install netselect', but I can't even find that.03:12
sara_pooseems no packages are available,03:12
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(MDM3455/#ubuntu) can you have normal Wine and Cedega installed together?06:03
(SpecialBuddy/#ubuntu) I just want to make an icon without the white on the edges06:04
(crimsun/#ubuntu) MDM3455: sure.06:04
(Burgundavia/#ubuntu) ray_, they basically say whether or not a license is free or not06:04
ray_anyone know of a good online 3d shooter06:04
tomchukfor i in `ls *.jpg`; do mogrify -transparent #ffffff $i; done06:04
punkrockguy318ray_, cube06:04
punkrockguy318will breezy be debian compatible?06:05
Razor-Xray-: Cube06:05
tomchukSpecialBuddy: something like the above should work06:05
Razor-X*ray_06:05
talioshola - anyone here compiled up mod_caucho for apache2 on ubuntu?  I'm getting "can't find apache lib" - I have apache2 installed, along with the dev pacakges06:05
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Razor-Xtalios: make sure you have the apache dev libs06:05
SpecialBuddyI'm not really sure if that magic wand is working06:06
taliosRazor-X, I noticed after i removed apache-dev apxs dissapeared, but had assumed the apache2 dev packaes might bring back an apache2 version06:06
crimsuntalios: fancy seeing you here.06:06
cafuego!find apxs206:07
adwaithey ppl........i am going to a friends place to install ubuntu on XP machine......anything i need to know? (havent used XP much)06:07
Razor-Xtalios: nope, you need the apache-dev06:07
tomchukSpecialBuddy: do you have all the white selected?06:07
talioshey crimsun :)06:07
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'apxs2' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/apxs2) in devel/apache2-prefork-dev,devel/apache2-threaded-dev.06:07
Razor-Xadwait: a lot06:07
cafuegoapache2-prefork-dev06:07
adwaitrazor-x: like? any urls?06:07
cafuegothere you go06:07
Razor-XNTFS is the bitch of all bitches06:07
Razor-Xare you resizing XP, or wiping it?06:07
Razor-Xor installing on a seperate drive? ;)06:07
adwaitinstalling on a diff partition (or maybe a separate drive)06:07
SpecialBuddyyeah but it's not showing the checkboard under it06:08
Razor-Xthe latter is best, because resizing XP is a total bitch06:08
talioscafuego, already have apache2-prefork-dev installed, but no apxs ;(06:08
tomchukSpecialBuddy: go to layer -> add alpha channel06:08
adwaitnaah he recently formatted, so he has left free space for linux06:08
cafuegotalios: /usr/bin/apxs206:08
Razor-Xadwait: oh, that's cool ;)06:08
tomchukSpecialBuddy: then ctrl-K to delete the selection06:08
taliosahh apxs2 :)06:09
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Razor-Xas long as he left free space unpartitioned, it's fine, but I had a hellish time getting my XP to cooperate06:09
SpecialBuddyadd alpha channel?06:09
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mavenE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)06:09
ray_anybody use an stivirus program?06:09
tomchukSpecialBuddy: yup06:09
adwaitrazor-x: last time he tried installing, he got FC3 to install, but just couldnt bring grub up...and when he did, it just crashed...so he couldnt boot into linux06:09
mavenerror happen06:09
ray_antivirus sorry06:09
kakaltohas anyone here got bf1942 working on cvscedega?06:09
SpecialBuddyI don't see it06:09
Razor-Xadwait: does he have a special drive setup?06:09
Razor-Xor do you know the magic of all that?06:09
Razor-X;)06:09
adwaitrazor-x: whr should i install grub? MBR or first sector?06:09
mavenpostfix & at and so on happens error06:09
tomchukSpecialBuddy: sorry it's layer -> transparecy -> add alpha channel06:09
Razor-Xdo it on the MBR, adwait06:09
mavencan someone help me06:09
ray_anybody use an antivirus program?06:09
Razor-Xmake sure to do it there06:10
SpecialBuddyok06:10
mavennobody use antivirus program06:10
adwaitrazor-x: an 80 GB HD with XP and a slave hard disk....dunno which one i am going to install on....06:10
Razor-Xand then, make note of the partition XP inhabits, and the partition Ubuntu habits06:10
Razor-Xdo it on the slave06:10
Razor-Xand, just in case06:10
bystanderray_: unless you have a server feeding mail to windows boxes etc06:10
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Razor-Xtake SystemRescueCD with you06:10
ray_bystander, oh yeah ....thanks alot06:10
Razor-Xyou can never go wrong with that thing, it's helped me brign back dead harddrives from the grave ;)06:10
misfit_toy<switch>06:11
lamontmaven: what's above the suporcess error?06:11
Razor-X*bring06:11
adwaitrazor-x: havent burnt tht........byt ooh well, he probably has the XP cd06:11
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nalioth_zZzZzZzRazor-X: systemrescuecd?06:11
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nathan__Man - I've tried everything!06:11
Razor-Xadwait: System Rescue CD comes with a nice bootmanager a little more compatible than GRUB06:11
Razor-Xnalioth_zZzZzZz: yeahp06:11
nathan__I re-installed apt, but I'm still unable to connect06:11
nathan__and I was so sold on APT!!06:11
SpecialBuddythanks tom06:11
SpecialBuddyfigured it out06:12
tomchuknp06:12
nalioth_zZzZzZzRazor-X: for x86, right?06:12
adwaitrazor-x: hmm....well i gotta do this today, besides i my day time downloads are limited so cant really help it now, gonna take a risk :)06:12
nathan__I checked the forums too. :(06:12
Razor-Xnalioth_zZzZzZz: yeah, I don't have much experience with PPC06:12
nathan__I need an expert-hotline!06:12
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nathan__1-800-ubuntu-guru06:12
Razor-Xadwait: good luck ;) but, always keep that in your toolbox henceforth06:12
Razor-XI never leave home without it (TM)06:12
nalioth_zZzZzZzRazor-X: don't stir too much trouble, now06:12
Razor-Xnalioth_zZzZzZz: you mean, infringement?06:13
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adwaitrazor-x: right...but wht abt grub, will it work fine with the XP bootloader, or do i do somethin special?06:13
yonili remember there is an application that helps you set the startup applications (stuff in init.d), what's it called ?06:13
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freddyweird06:13
cafuegoyonil: rcconf / update-rc.d06:13
Razor-Xadwait: if you install GRUB to MBR, all should work fine06:13
freddywhen i try to mount /dev/sda2 the system hangs =/06:14
Razor-XGRUB should autodetect the XP partition, and add it's entry to the GRUB boot menu06:14
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Razor-Xbut, just in case.... yeah ;)06:14
adwaitrazor-x: right....well best of luck to me :), and ill be back here if there are any problems :)06:14
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Razor-Xbefore I did mine, I made sure I knew about 30% of the GRUB docs by heart06:14
punkrockguy318how do i set the debian sensible browser?06:14
tomchuknathan__: you're timing out at a proxy right?06:15
Razor-Xand had that which I needed printed, handy, since I had to do my install uber-quick06:15
Razor-Xelse risk my dad's wrath06:15
mavenwhere are java developers06:15
freddy_how do i know wich partition is wich sda?06:15
Razor-Xmaven: in #java, or #java-dev , i'm guessing06:15
Razor-Xfreddy_: first SCSI drive, generally06:16
freddy_im looking for my thrid partition that its pure data...and i dont know where is it06:16
talios!find apr.h06:16
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adwaitfreddy_:fdisk -l06:16
Razor-Xor that, ;)06:16
yonilcafuego, thanks that works06:16
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adwaithey off topic question: do u guys get the exact speed promised by the ISP whr u live? i live in india, I hv a 256 KBps connection......but i actually get around 200 lbps06:17
adwait*kbps06:17
tomchukadwait: very rarely do i get advertised speed06:18
sproingiehow do you measure it?06:18
adwaituse one ofthe online tests06:18
HrdwrBoBI get 1.5Mbit06:18
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adwaithrdwrbob: how much is the promised speeD?06:18
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bystanderadwait: you never get the full speed - for instance a 56k modem never delivers 56k (except maybe in a short burst)06:19
sproingieftp and http download and tcp itself has overhead06:19
Quest-MasterHindi and Urdu Ubuntu users-- #ubuntu-hi and #ubuntu-ur :)06:19
adwaitbystander: yeah..but i thought it would be different with an ADSL connection06:19
lampshadeso yeah, I have two sound cards, one onboard nforce sound, and the other a sound blaster card.  I think Ubuntu picked them both up, but which do you recommend?06:19
lampshadeis one alsa and one oss?  Is ALSA better than OSS?06:20
tomchukadwait: depends on the company and infrastructure - I regulary got 6K+ with my 6K account with Telus in Canada06:20
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sproingiei have 10 megabit cable, but i rarely expect any download to match that06:21
adwaithmm..i thought it was only in india tht this happened :)06:21
freddy_there is no plugin to handle mp3? wtf?06:21
bystanderadwait: no, it happens everywhere, if it's any consolation ;)06:22
IceDC571i wonder why everyone still listens to mp3s06:22
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FlannelKingbecause not everyone is an audiophile06:22
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Davey|Homewhats better, VNC or Remote X?06:22
adwaiticedc571: thn wht to listen to? ogg?06:22
bystanderfreddy_: sure there is - gstreamer0.8-mad for totem or rhythmbox, or just install beep-media-player or xmms06:23
IceDC571adwait: listen to nothing06:23
adwaiticedc571: aah.......:p no music......:'(06:23
FlannelKingbut yes, adwait, audiophiles listen to ogg06:23
sproingiehah06:23
IceDC571i listen to flac06:23
IceDC571im horrible06:23
bystanderogg is actually better than mp3 IMHO06:23
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sproingieaudiophiles listen to lossless06:24
syndsmoke time06:24
tomchuksproingie: audiophiles listen to vinyl ;)06:24
IceDC571i dont have anything to smoke :(06:24
adwaitlossless: hard to find/download....ogg: not very widely used06:24
freddy_any player for videos that you recommend that will play avi? cause from totem i only get "cant play"06:24
syndaudiofiles dont download music06:24
IceDC571thats true06:25
syndif they do listen to electronic music.. it is ripped lossless though06:25
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syndby themselves06:25
sproingieaudiophile is usually something of a vague insult in my book, something you throw around at people who buy "oxygen free copper" speaker wires06:25
syndoh no06:25
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IceDC571its funny when i listen with my friends.. i could care less about what quality the music is06:25
IceDC571but when im with myself.. i cant stand anything else but lossless06:26
syndan audiophile spends 10,000$ on wires alone : p06:26
sproingiethere's an amazing market in bilking the superstitious audiophile crowd with "high end" audio products06:26
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jeavishello06:26
tomchuksproingie: and run a $30 magic marker along the edges of their CDs to make the bits sound warmenr06:26
freddy_oh boy, no sound....06:26
freddy_this is not good06:26
freddy_:(06:26
sproingielike special stones you place around the room and discs you put on the walls and stuff06:26
jeavisI need help!06:26
adwaitlol06:26
jayparadisehas anyone had this cd/dvd error : unable to mount , unknown filesystem 'sysfs'06:26
FlannelKinglike ear buds06:26
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jayparadisethink its sysfs, something simaler06:26
syndwell you get what you pay for.06:26
adwaithence we can conclude: audiophiles hv too much money to waste ;d06:26
jayparadisesubfs06:27
sproingiei look at that stuff and think "why did i have to be so honest?"06:27
freddy_now where to check if the sound is right...cause it is obvious that is not right06:27
Razor-Xhmmm... anyone familiar with LaTeX here?06:27
ivanis there a transcode package for ubuntu?>06:27
Razor-Xor more specifically, \product?06:27
cafuego think it's an error, maybe not.06:27
IceDC571i wish i could rm -rf /* myself06:27
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sproingiei could have developed my skills and sold special painted sticks for $5000 a pop06:27
freddy_xmms gave me an error when trying to play an mp306:27
sproingieif i had the sociopathic tendency to lie that easily06:27
jayparadisei cant do anything with cds or dvds on ubunto right now because its thinking its a subfs06:27
freddy_check that your sound is not blocked06:27
freddy_:(06:27
Razor-Xsproingie: and I wouldn't have bought it06:27
synda pair of Martin Logan electrostatic speakers being pwered by Krell amplifiers... is an experience06:27
sproingieRazor-X: but so many people would have06:27
jbroomeor you can drive around in a white van and sell speakers. :)06:27
cafuego!vagueness06:27
ubotuVagueness makes the baby jesus cry!06:27
sproingieRazor-X: so many people do06:27
jbroomesynd: agreed06:27
bystanderfreddy_: enable the esound output plugin in options/prefs06:28
Razor-Xsproingie: i'll have the satisfaction of bleating that I would not buy it ;)06:28
tomchukivan: try the marillat repo06:28
jayparadisedoes anyone know how to change dvd/cd filesystem back to iso9*06:28
Burgundaviatomchuk, please don't recommend the marilliat repo. hoary-extras is better06:28
freddy_bystander, same thing, i think is a global error...cause i cant get the system sounds either06:28
IceDC571ive had nothing but trouble with marilliat06:28
Burgundaviaivan, try the hoary-extras repo from the backports project06:28
jayparadisei think vmware screwed it up06:28
sproingiejames randi occasionally does a good skewering of a "mystical audio equipment" seller every few columns06:29
syndmarilliat and backports are touble06:29
jayparadisewhats randi?06:29
IceDC571backports isnt that bad06:29
tomchukBurgundavia: sorry, never used either of them06:29
Razor-XI have marillat _and_ backports ;)06:29
bystanderfreddy_: try changing the plugin to oss and then do "killall esd" and see if it works...06:29
BurgundaviaRazor-X, backports != hoary-extras06:29
syndRazor-X: brave one, you are : )06:29
jayparadiseim new to ubuntu and fairly new to linux06:29
Razor-Xsynd: my system is sound, is it not? ;)06:29
IceDC571jayparadise: welcome back!06:29
syndRazor-X: indeed!06:30
Razor-XBurgundavia: i'll add hoary-extras then06:30
Razor-Xwhere's that at?06:30
BurgundaviaRazor-X, same servers. hoary-extras ~ marilliat06:30
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jayparadisethanks for the greeting, 4 some reason my gateway has been acting up06:30
freddy_bystander, my sound is not working in general, not working with the system06:30
freddy_its integrated sound06:30
freddy_no soundcard.06:31
bystanderfreddy_: perhaps it isn't supported? have you tried googling the chipset with "linux' ?06:31
adwaityeah....or maybe drivers are a problem06:31
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jayparadisethe gateway gets disconnected at random intervals sometimes more than once in 10 minutes but usually like every hour06:32
hondjeOr maybe your ears are broken06:32
adwaitgenerally integrated chips work with generic drivers.......try06:32
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tomchukfreddy_: what does06:32
jayparadiseim thinking it has to do with the dhcp lease06:32
tomchuklspci| grep audio06:32
IceDC571your ears need the latest alsa!06:32
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TokenBadis there a way in ps to see all active stuff meaning for my account plus other user accounts on the system?06:32
freddy_tomchuk, shows nada06:33
bystanderheheh - "My music sounds horrible!" "Maybe you're playing country music?"06:33
jayparadisedamn i wihs i oculd figure out my 2 problems, especialy the cd/dvd one06:33
Discipuluslol06:33
quamtokenbad: ps -ax06:33
tomchukfreddy_: you have the sound enabled in the BIOS?06:33
freddy_tomchuk, yup, works in the windows06:34
jayparadisewhats the u for in ps? is it processes owned/started by the user or displays user06:34
tomchukfreddy_: motherboard chipset?06:34
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freddy_intel06:34
IceDC571intel is evil06:34
adwaitheh06:34
tomchukfreddy_: reced mobo or old one?06:35
jeavisHow I can install jdk06:35
freddy_bought it like 2 weeks ago06:35
Razor-Xso, is anyone here familiar with LaTeX?06:35
tomchuks/reced/recent06:35
FlannelKingu is for the 'user oriented' format06:35
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FlannelKingman ps06:35
IceDC571actually intel makes good mobos06:35
freddy_tomchuk, bought it like 2 weeks ago06:35
Razor-XIceDC571: not as good as the PPC, by far06:35
FlannelKingAlthough, you can also specify a user06:35
tomchukfreddy_: hmm06:35
adwaitrazor-x: sure......easy to use..they don't tear easily too06:35
adwait:D06:35
IceDC571im using an intel p4 1.7 one of those old model huge chips.. the williamette06:35
Razor-Xadwait: XD, note the capitalization06:36
jayparadisethats allright, too much learning to do to fit that in i'll just use ps aux :-)06:36
Razor-XIceDC571: "Old Model" ? Your model is better than mine06:36
tomchukfreddy_: do you see anything that resembles a multimedia or audio controler in lspci -vv06:36
Razor-Xjayparadise: just remember, ps -e is best for grepping ;)06:36
IceDC571Razor-X: whats yours?06:36
Razor-XIceDC571: P4 1.606:36
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tux014hola06:37
IceDC571IceDC571: not bad.. im using socket 473 though06:37
IceDC571or whatever that strange socket is that is discontinued06:37
freddy_any video player you guys recommend?06:37
freddy_0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definiti on Audio Controller (rev 03)06:37
freddy_thats what i see06:37
Razor-Xfreddy_: VLC06:38
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freddy_i dont see it on Add or Remove Applications06:38
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jasmuzfreddy_: mplayer or xine06:39
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Razor-Xfreddy_: ....... you have to get it from apt-get06:39
murphybig quick problem:  I am trying to change the owner of a mounted drive06:39
Razor-Xor aptitude, if you'recool ;)06:39
Razor-X*you're cool06:39
adwaitmurphy: unmount drive and remount with diff owner06:40
murphyand I enter this:  sudo chown murphy /media/hdb506:40
adwaitalternatively edit /etc/fstab06:40
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murphyAnd I get this: chown: changing ownership of `/media/hdb5': Read-only file system06:40
murphybut it doesn't change06:40
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adwaitmurphy: u cant change using chown......ull hv to unmount and remount of change fstab and remount06:40
Specready only file system means you can't write to it06:40
Specor mount -o remount -o rw /media/hdb506:41
freddy_mount -o uid=1000 /whateveryouwant/tomount /wherever/youwant06:41
Speci'm not sure if that'll work though06:41
freddy_:D06:41
murphyhmm, Whan configs must I change in fstab in order to mount under my user?06:41
freddy_uid06:41
murphyoh ok!06:41
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tomchukfreddy_: are your mixers turned up?06:41
Spec'noatuo,ro,user' for options06:42
Specnoauto*06:42
freddy_Razor-X, apt-get install vlc...shows me that it couldnt find that package06:42
adwaitfreddy: universe/multiverse enabled? anyway.......try searching on the debian site and download all the dependencies as welll06:42
bystanderadwait: erm - that's very bad advice06:43
Razor-Xfreddy_: what adwait said06:43
freddy_tomchuk, yes06:43
bystanderNOT on a Debian site!06:43
Razor-Xexcept the latter part, ;)06:43
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chad my volume at 100% is nowhere near as loud as it should be.. is there a way to solve this?06:43
freddy_oh my god, i thought that i shouldnt worry about dependencies on a debian based distro :(06:43
jasmuzchad: run alsamixergui06:44
adwaitbystander: well the ubuntu firefox version has a built ine search for debian site.......so i figured its fine06:44
bystanderfreddy_: that's right06:44
murphyWhat part of this do I change in order to mount under the user Murphy?06:44
murphy/dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 006:44
freddy_but this guy said i had to go and look for the dependecies06:44
freddy_=/06:44
chadjasmuz: ran the term version.. volume is all the way up06:44
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bystanderadwait: well, it isn't: debian is out of sync with ubuntu ATM06:44
freddy_and..any tip on where i can enable this universe thingy?06:44
bystander!repositories06:44
ubotuit has been said that repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:44
bystanderfreddy_: read ubotu's URL06:45
jasmuzchad, did you check the other volumes in PCM and MASTER?06:45
adwaitbystander: k06:45
murphyis it ro,?06:45
IceDC571how do i get aptitude to ignore an update? hmm..06:45
murphyor user?06:45
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chadjasmuz: yep.. full blast :)06:46
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jasmuzchad: that is odd06:46
Razor-Xtalios: i'm doing something waaay more frustrating06:46
adwaitmurphy: uid=murphy06:47
Razor-Xmother fscking... f&g... *curses smoothly*06:47
EruditeHermithi, is the rt2500 driver included in the modules extension package in universe?06:47
murphybut where in that line in my fstab?06:47
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IceDC571Razor-X: there are kids in here, please curse more06:47
josh42Is there a way to set the dpi on 1600x1200.. the default font is rendering too small06:47
taliosRazor-X, heh.  we was supposedly doing a production release of our app today, till someone said "hey, on some pages theres a unicode messup", which only happens on apache fronted installs.  gah.06:47
Razor-XIceDC571: ahhh, i'm a kid ;)06:47
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Razor-Xcompared to you, most probably06:48
murphyMe to06:48
adwaitmurphy: no wait.....i think uid uses numbers.....06:48
bystanderyes, think of the children! *g806:48
goryohelo06:48
IceDC571Razor-X: how old?06:48
SpecialBuddyis there a way to make kubuntu look like windows06:48
murphyahh, enough06:48
goryoguys ... i was here earlier .. can you help me join a domain in win2003 using ubuntu ?06:48
Razor-Xtalios: i'm trying to find a function that is 0 at x_{j} and 1 at x_{i} which is a polynomial function of dgree n-1 ;)06:48
Razor-XIceDC571: 1506:48
IceDC571SpecialBuddy: i know how to make gnome look like windows but not sure about kde06:48
bystanderSpecialBuddy: eww06:48
murphyso, do I change ro, to murphy?06:48
taliosRazor-X, ok - you win :)06:48
murphyor what?06:48
SpecialBuddyhow do you make gnome look like it06:48
adwaitspecialbuddy: i had heard of this thing called xpde06:49
IceDC571http://art.gnome.org/06:49
taliosSilverXP theme :)06:49
adwaitits an environment to make linux looks like win XP....but never got it06:49
tomchukhttp://gnome-look.org06:49
Razor-Xtalios: saddest part is, i'm doing it for my own practice06:49
IceDC571wait what is that art gnome site?06:49
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taliosRazor-X, freak :)06:49
josh42xpde was a window manager, I think.. not a theme06:49
tomchukIceDC571: gnome is migrating stuff and servers are down06:50
IceDC571oh06:50
adwaiti bleieve its a complete desktop environment like gnome or KDE06:50
goryocan any1 teach me how to log-in to a windows domain using ubuntu ?06:50
taliosjosh42, yep - written in Kylix ( delphi for linux ) from memory06:50
IceDC571kde is in legal trouble :)06:50
punkrockguy318IceDC571, why?06:50
jasmuzIceDC571: cuz of Qt, right?06:50
Razor-Xtalios: and to boot, i'm 15 ;)06:50
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IceDC571"FREE SOFTWARE UNDER THREAT FROM SOFTWARE PATENTS!"06:50
Razor-Xif you haven't guessed, i'm hoping to be a math major06:50
sobersabrehello.06:50
taliosRazor-X, bah - now I feel really old again ;p06:51
josh42talios; They did an admirable job, I thought.. good way to install linux on a winDozer's machine ;)06:51
talioshrh06:51
taliosheh06:51
IceDC571goto any project page that relates to kde like http://kopete.kde.org06:51
Razor-Xtalios: no problem ;)06:51
Razor-Xregardless, this problem's baffling me....06:51
adwaitwow u guys are all really young and much more knowledgeable than me!!! i am 19 :p06:51
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josh42IceDC571; Did you read that page fully?06:51
sobersabrei'm using a notebook. i use wired ( eth1 ) connection with dhcp at work and wireless (eth0) without dhcp at home. I want the machine to discover automatically where it is, and to connect to the network. how do i achieve this ?06:52
lampshadehaha, ok, whos up for a good sound problem?06:52
Razor-XI know next-to-nothing about Polynomial Functions...06:52
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nathan__I re-installed.06:52
nathan__That was fast eh?06:52
freddy_adding repositories is the bomb06:52
freddy_yay06:52
IceDC571josh42: yep.. i wish they would pull those pages off they are annoying06:52
Razor-Xhandling them, rather, the form of a Polynomial function is obvious... *frowns*06:52
goryocan any1 help me regarding samba ?06:52
nathan__I think installing Kubuntu via APT screwed me up somehow06:52
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adwaitrazor-x: hmm....whts the degree?06:52
josh42IceDC571; But, if you read it, then why do you say KDE is in legal trouble?06:52
sobersabregoryo, no. unless you ask a question06:52
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Razor-XIceDC571: free software in general is in legal trouble06:53
goryoi was asking since 15 mins ago06:53
goryohad no reply06:53
nathan__Anyway, Gnome is fine, I have 1600x1200 on a 19" and I can go to bed in peace now.06:53
IceDC571yeah i guess so06:53
adwaityeah because of the trusted computing thing right?06:53
sobersabregoryo, look.. i wasn't here then.06:53
goryook thnx ..06:53
nathan__I love Linux, I love Ubuntu, I love APT- SIGH!06:53
IceDC571w32codecs is a good example06:53
IceDC571i love aptitude06:53
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goryosobersabre: i need to join a win2003 domain .. how do i do it using ubuntu ?06:53
sobersabrei love my bride.06:53
IceDC571i love my imaginary girlfriend06:54
goryodont know much 'bout linux system still .. i'm still the young apprentice06:54
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gtnAnyone know where System->Preferneces->Screen Resolution gets it's drop down menu options? I'm trying to set up 1024x768 on my laptop -- I've defined it as a modeline in /etc/x11/xorg.conf and listed it as the only valid mode for my monitor but I can still only chose between 800x600 and 640x480.06:54
sobersabregoryo, you need to be running a ldap. it is not very trivial.06:54
goryoaha ... ok ... let me get back to you .. i wanna try that on my own ..06:54
goryotnx sobersabre.06:54
josh42gtn; did you run one of the xconfigs?06:54
adwaitgtn: if i remember correctly u need to edit the file in 2-3 places.....scroll down06:54
sobersabreIceDC571, and on that I prefer to remain silent. ( if my bride discovers my imaginery gf... hmmm)06:54
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sobersabregoryo, you need to be in the situation, when you know how ldap works and how to control it.06:55
sobersabrethen what you say to samba - that its auth. is ldap named your win2003 server..06:55
gtnjosh42 Yeah, I defined the modeline, my horizontal and vertical refresh in the Monitor section and then in the display subsection in the screen section06:56
sobersabreIceDC571, it is a joke...06:56
IceDC571sobersabre: im very slow, appearently06:57
gtnI'll try reconfiguring again06:57
adwaitgtn: hv u changed for every depth?06:57
sobersabreso... is there a util that automates network discovery with laptop.06:57
murphyoh....06:57
murphyit's NTFS06:57
gtnadwait yeah, and then to make sure I commented out every depth but 16 and put 16 as the default06:57
gtnadwait so I'm not sure where it is coming up with the 800x600 I'm running now06:57
sobersabreIceDC571, it is 8:00 am in here... what's the time at where you are ... ?06:58
jasmuzguys take care06:58
jasmuzCiao06:58
sobersabreciao jasmus...06:58
jayparadiseyou know whats odd, i can launch gui apps from cli as user but not as su06:59
IceDC571sobersabre: 10pm06:59
bystanderjayparadise: that's not odd - that's as it should be06:59
adwaitgtn: hmm.........looking at my own file can't find anything diff..06:59
josh42gtn; that was adwait about the 3 places.. I just run the xconfig apps, and choose my res through a semi-gui page :)06:59
bystanderjayparadise: google "mit magic cookie"06:59
jayparadisei dislike it, how does that offer more security, i have applications that are rendered useless becuase of this; yes applications ....that i cant currently think of.07:00
gtnjosh42 -- which xconfig? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?07:00
Razor-Xnoooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! *in Darth Vade voice*07:00
Razor-XI have to hit something!!! -_-07:00
bystanderjayparadise: use "gksudo "07:00
hondjeHit your neighbors cat with a car07:00
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josh42gtn; trying to look that up right now.. it was through the binary driver howto07:01
jayparadisebystander , i can launch them as user07:01
jayparadisei would need sudo even as root?07:01
gtnjosh42 thanks07:01
bystanderjayparadise: yes, i understood you the first time :)07:01
goryojust read what you typed earlier sobersabre07:01
goryotnx ...07:01
bystanderjayparadise: don't run gui as root07:01
Razor-Xhondje: but that won't find the polynomial function!07:01
Razor-X-_-07:01
bystanderjayparadise: use gksudo07:01
adwaitgtn: actually yeah.........y not just change the res thru GUI07:01
hondjeRazor-X: sudo apt-get install octave07:01
hondje:)07:02
goryosobersabre: i can't say i have working knowledge on LDAP ... but ... i'll see what i can do07:02
Razor-XI already have Maxima ;)07:02
Razor-Xthis is a logic question, I don't think a computer can handle such an abstarct question07:02
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sobersabregoryo, if you want to be able to troubleshoot yourself, and to maintain - you must understand ldap.07:02
gtnadwait the Screen Resolution tool doesn't give me any options except 8x6 and 640x48007:02
sobersabregoryo, I WASN'T here!07:02
sobersabreis there irc chat archives anywhere ?07:02
bystanderjayparadise: why would the X server allow another user to use the same display? Think about it...07:03
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jayparadiseall i can think of is .bashrc or .profile has something preventing it07:03
goryooh ok ... i'll try to read further on LDAP07:03
josh42gtn; I think this was it: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8607:04
adwaitgtn: been there done tht....but tht was with FC3 and the corg.conf was diff for it (somehow......i cant quite remember......but it was much bigger than in ubuntu)07:04
jayparadise.etc/passwd?07:04
josh42gtn (or xorg, not xfree.. been a while)07:04
bystanderjayparadise: do you want your ~/.Xauthority file to belong toroot and lock you out?07:04
taliosw00t - got resin/apache2 working07:04
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adwaitwell i am gonna go read a nice sidney sheldon for a while and thn help a friend in installing ubuntu.....cya guys07:06
sobersabreguys, need suggestion for an app or a hack: I want not to mess with getting eth0 and eth1 manually at work or home. i want laptop to do this job.07:06
sobersabrehow can i do this ?07:06
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vinuxwoot! it's nice to be back on ubuntu! I did try debian but I think ubuntu is alot nicer.07:06
gtnok, I've reconfigured and will now restart x, cross your fingers.07:06
Razor-Xhondje: you there?07:07
hondjeRazor-X: For some values of "there", yep07:07
Razor-Xhondje: ;)07:08
Razor-Xwell07:08
Razor-Xhttp://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/problem01.pdf07:08
Razor-Xchange the extension to .tex, if you want to compile the source07:08
Razor-Xthat's what i'm struggling on (well, part of it, I cut of the rest)07:09
hondje404 Error!  The page you were looking for could not be found.07:09
Razor-Xwoops ;)07:10
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ghostboneHi everyone07:11
Razor-Xdone07:11
bur[n] erhi07:11
Razor-Xcheck it now, hondje07:11
josh42vinux: ubuntu /is/ debian ;)07:11
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ghostboneOk quick question from me (never happend before and I'm stumped O_o). Basically I want to use NDISWrapper to install my WPC54G(linksys) it picks it up... However... it doesn't recognise it as a network device O_o07:12
vinuxjosh42, nope07:12
Razor-Xhondje: any advice? (don't solve it)07:12
hondjehrm07:13
josh42vinux; sure it is.. just a variation of it. Dont get me wrong; I love ubuntu and cant stand doing a vanilla debian install, but ubuntu is debian07:13
hondjemakes me think of the mobius function07:13
hondjein that 1 or 0 sorta way07:13
hondjethough mobius is -1, 0 or 1 for various other reasons07:13
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vinuxjosh42, I guess I could go with a variation of it. But the goals are different, so that might lead more away from debian in the future07:17
Razor-Xhondje: shhhh!07:18
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Razor-XI don't know the mobius function07:18
Razor-Xit will eventually turn out to be the Lagrange Interpolation Formula07:18
Razor-Xthat's for sure07:18
Razor-Xthing about Spivak is, his problems require no math knowledge, it's all explained in the chapter, logic is the key07:18
josh42vinux; true. I think it would be well-served if the debian dev team got behind ubuntu and helped them towards the goals set out07:18
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vinuxjosh42, I agree. Besides I think ubuntu is still #1 isn't it? :)07:20
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rronkivCan anyone in here hack? if you know how to hack into yahoomail accounts please private message me! i ahve a valid reason and will explain in private.07:21
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hondjeRazor-X: That wasn't shushable :)07:22
KhaBalwhere do you download LAMP from cant find it07:22
hondjesaying mobius doesn't help much at all, though it's a sexy little function07:22
FlannelKingLAMP is a collection of various software (Linux, Apache, MySQL, and PHP), you don't download it as a whole07:23
hondjenumber theorists love that thig07:23
victory747I have a question:  If I add a deb-src line (but not binaries) of debian's unstable to my sources.list, is it searchable with apt-cache?07:23
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syndhow do i reset the sound driver? ever since i put this DVD player in.. the sound playback is a little faster than normal07:23
KhaBalFlannelKing you need all those programs for LAMP?07:24
victory747KhaBal, XAMPP is a very nice easy way to play with it all.07:24
FlannelKingThose programs make up L(inux)A(pache)M(ySQL)P(HP).  You could have a comparable thing not using Linux, or not using MySQL (using BSD, or using PostgreSQL), but yes, that is07:25
victory747http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html07:26
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FlannelKingLAMP is just an OS (linux), a http server (apache), a database (MySQL) and then a langage to connect the DB to the server (PHP)07:26
FlannelKingAnd with Ubuntu, you just get all the files, and Ubuntu takes care of all the setup, it's real nice with the apache organization07:27
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FlannelKingIf you google "LAMP Ubuntu" (or something similar) I know youll find a tutorial, since I did just that, a month ago07:28
victory747you just download it, run it, and when you are done, you can just delete it.  And it has mysql set up for you, not need to worry about setting up accounts, etc.  Of course, it's not very secure, either! :)07:28
FlannelKingActually, you can probably just look in the ubuntu forums07:28
victory747but it's good for testing, development, etc.07:28
FlannelKingeither the newbie section, or the server talk07:28
FlannelKingdon't remember which one off the top of my head07:29
rekavictory747: not sure if this will help, but debian packages can be found @ http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages  (afaik though, it's a bad idea to mix debian packages with ubuntu)07:29
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victory747yeah, that's why i only want to do the source.  But I was wondering how to search it.07:31
vinuxack I think they took gnomebaker off the sources for awhile :(07:31
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rekavictory747: there's a source package radio button you can enable in the search07:33
victory747oh, is that symantic or something?07:33
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smackwow lots of people in here.07:34
rekavictory747: no, it's on the webpage linked above...scroll down to "search package directories"07:34
siorfinso does anyone think it is worth having internal agp set to yes for ati cards?07:34
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josh42Ok, now this is starting to bug me alot.. there is nothing that I can see wrong in the Xord.0.log - I have a 9800 pro w/ amd64, and I can not for the life of me get hardware accelleration on07:34
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siorfinthe max fps i was getting with fgl_glxgears was like 10 higher with it set to no using agpgart07:35
victory747oh, ok. Yeah, I know I can search it via the web page.  I was asking about apt-cache, though.07:35
siorfindid you follow the howto?07:35
rekajosh42: how did you install?07:35
josh42siorfin: yes07:35
josh42reka; the binary driver howto07:35
siorfinare you installing the repository driver or the ati.com driver?07:36
josh42siorfin; how do you turn fps on the gear thing07:36
josh42Repository, I think07:36
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siorfinglxgears and fgl_glxgears for testing to see if it works07:36
siorfinglxinfo07:36
josh42yes, xorg repository07:36
siorfingo here07:36
rekajosh42: lsmod | grep "fglrx"07:36
smackxorg-driver-fglrx package?07:36
victory747i have another apt-cache question:  how can i have it show version numbers of packages when doing apt-cache search name07:37
victory747apt-cache search -f name is too verbose07:37
josh42smack; yep07:37
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josh42reka:  lsmod | grep "fglrx"07:37
josh42reka - opps, sec07:37
smackapt-cache show package does it I think.07:37
josh42reka; fglrx                 262240  2707:37
victory747but that is also verbose, and is only for one package afaik07:38
rekahmmm, it's loaded07:38
Jujimufuif I want to create a launcher for "logging out", how do I do this?07:38
rekajosh42: and you changed "ati" to "fglrx"?07:38
josh42reka; yeppers07:38
siorfinyou have edited xorg.conf?07:38
Jujimufua custom launcher07:38
rekajosh42: and you've rebooted?07:38
smackjosh42: you shouldn't needs the quotes around fglrx when you grep.  saved you 1/5 of a second. :)07:38
siorfinSection "Device"07:39
siorfinIdentifier "Mobility Radeon 9200"07:39
siorfinDriver "fglrx"07:39
siorfinBusID "PCI:1:0:0"07:39
siorfinshould look something like that?07:39
smackif it's got multiple video outs they'll have different pci numbers too.07:39
rekaJujimufu: where do you want to place it?07:39
josh42hrm.. glxinfo says direct rendering: yes07:39
siorfinalso in the howto it says make sure Load "glx" and Load "dri" are in xorg.conf module section07:39
siorfinif dri is yes then youhave 3d07:39
rekajosh42: then it's enabled :)07:39
siorfinyou are fine07:39
josh42but07:40
Jujimufuas a gdesklet starter, reka07:40
siorfinglxgears and fgl_glxgears to test07:40
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josh42screensavers and darwinia run like garbage07:40
smackbrb07:40
siorfincould just be your card sucks07:40
siorfin:)07:40
rekaJujimufu: ah, gdesklets...can't help you there sorry.  someone else will surely know07:40
josh429800 pro? I hope not :P07:40
siorfinhmm yeah true07:40
Jujimufuoop, thanks anyway : )07:40
siorfindunno what to tell you there, they run fine on my mobility radeon 920007:41
rekajosh42: darwinia a game?07:41
airmikeyi tried reinstalling xserver-xorg....but still cant get back to desktop07:41
siorfinmaybe try installing the new ati drivers07:41
siorfin8.14.1307:41
siorfini did tonight using http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495&page=1&pp=1007:41
josh42reka; yeah, it's very breakthrough.. same guys that made uplink07:41
siorfinand i got about a 10% in crease in performance07:41
rekajosh42: b/c usually screensavers aren't the best benchmarking tool.  run a game you've played before and have a look at the fps :)07:41
rekaairmikey: ati or nvidia?07:41
dr_willisRTCW:ET is fun :P07:41
airmikeyati07:42
josh42reka; I've not found a 3d game that's smooth yet07:42
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rekaairmikey: what instructions did you follow?07:42
rekato install07:42
siorfinshould try the ati.com drivers07:42
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rekajosh42: hmm, not sure.  maybe try siorfin's suggestion.07:43
airmikeysudo apt-get install xserver-xorg07:43
siorfinhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495&page=1&pp=10, install the repository drivers first then follow instructions here maybe that will help07:43
josh42glxgears seems to run good, but I cant see fps, and my cpu is 100%07:43
josh42Yeah, I am going to try the new driver07:43
siorfinagpgart uses alot of cpu07:43
rekajosh42: i've heard it's a bit more complicated though.  siorfin will probably help you. :)07:43
josh42ANy suggestions on semi-decent benchmarking tools? I cant tell if my cpu is picking up the slack on the gears demo07:44
rekaairmikey: need to do more than that :)07:44
rekaairmikey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowTo07:44
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siorfini upgraded to the ati.com drivers and then blacklisted agpgart and intel_agp then set internalagp yes in xorg.conf07:44
rekajosh42: run glxgears in a terminal and you'll get the FPS07:44
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smacksorry for the joins/parts.. I'm not very talented at this irc thing.07:45
josh42woah.. glxgears: 1697fps07:45
LuakagonHi thank you for being here, I want to find what my screen color depth is set to and I might want to change it, can someone help me?07:45
josh422697, that is07:45
siorfinthats pretty sucky honestly07:45
siorfinmy mobility 9200 gets 148507:45
siorfinradeon 9800 should blow that out of the water07:45
siorfinthat is like 200ish higher07:46
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siorfinconsidering i got a 400+ increase by upgrading a driver that isnt alot07:46
rekasiorfin: he said 2697 :)07:46
siorfinoh lol07:46
josh42yeah, sry :)07:46
siorfinthats better :)07:46
rekajosh42: compare with other 9800pro owners07:46
siorfinwas gonna say07:46
josh42Anyone in here going to fess up? ;)07:46
siorfinhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3934907:47
siorfincheck that thread07:47
smackhey I had a x question if you guys would let me run it by you.07:47
siorfinlots of benchmarks07:47
smackwhen I start up my games like postal/tribes2 it switches my refresh rate to 60hz.07:47
sobersabreWOW you are all corrupt bastards ( with these FPS's )07:48
sobersabre:)07:48
josh42yeah, closest system specs: 4000fps07:48
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siorfinshould really upgrade your driver to 8.14.13 via the howto i posted earlier07:48
siorfinits pretty easy07:48
LuakagonI am playing a DVD and it's dropping frames, I want to get the best performance that i can, can someone please help me figure out what my color depth is?07:48
siorfinjust run the installer and reboot, your xorg.conf should already be setup07:48
rekaLuakagon: you mean choppy playback?  have you enabled DMA?07:48
siorfini got  10% increase i bet you get atleast that easily on a radeon 9800 pro07:49
josh42Luakagon: Yeah, I bet you DMA is off07:49
smackis it possible to delete the whole Display section of my xorg.conf file and only leave my modelines in for the res/refresh I need? I tried it but my x server wouldn't start.07:49
siorfini got a 11% increase in fgl_glxgears and like 50% increase in glxgears07:49
siorfinwith latest driver07:49
siorfincompared to the repository driver07:50
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josh42Ok, I'm going to run through it07:50
LuakagonI did xine-check expecting this about five times07:50
Luakagonbut its fine now, strange huh?07:50
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josh42nice.. 600KB/s on the driver file.. yay ati :)07:52
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siorfinalso might try adding07:52
siorfin# === Tweaks ===07:52
siorfinOption "AGPMode" "4"07:52
siorfinOption "EnablePageFlip" "on"07:52
siorfinOption "AGPFastWrite" "on"07:52
josh42where at?07:52
siorfinto xorg.conf driver setup, might see an increase might not07:52
siorfini got a little bit more07:52
magogi got some windows enviroments, but theyre not in my sessions list, the ones that arent are oroborus and kahakai, can i add it manually to the list or something?07:53
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rekasmack: yes, you can remove unwanted resolutions.  what error did you get when X failed to start?07:53
siorfinthere are some more tweaks you cando prolly for radeon 9800 but i dont remember all the options, google imo07:53
airmikey256mb is how many kb's ?07:53
Miksi installed KDE "kubuntu" using synaptic...but now i want to remove it....remove all KDE from ubuntu completely...i tried just removing the files i installed "kubuntu-desktop" and "kubuntu-default-setting"...but KDE is still on my sistem....how can i remove it?07:53
josh42siorfin: should I do the xorg? or freex?07:53
siorfinjosh, at the end of that howto link i posted for upgrading to 8.14.13 i posted my xorg.conf, you can see where to post it there07:53
siorfinjust follow the howto i posted, scroll up07:54
rekaairmikey: ~256,000 (i hope i'm right) :)07:54
siorfinyou should select auto and let the setup package decide for you basically07:54
josh42siorfin: should I do the xorg? or freex?07:54
siorfinbut ubuntu uses xorg not xfree just fyi07:54
josh42oop07:54
siorfinlaters07:55
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josh42siorfin; yours went to xorg, I assume07:55
siorfinyes07:55
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siorfin/etc/X11/xorg.conf07:55
siorfinthat should tell you all you need to know :)07:55
Luakagonok bye now07:55
Luakagonnevermind07:55
Luakagon:)07:55
magoganyone have experiance with kahakai in ubuntu? i have all the dependacies than installed from a .deb but its not in my sessions list07:55
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tomchukmagog: kahakai is dead and no longer maintained07:58
magogbut hypothetically it should still work, and its not in my sessions list nor is oroborus which i got off synaptic07:58
Luakagonive never heard of this before.  what is kahakai like?07:59
rekamagog: iirc, you need to edit a file to change your default wm.  i haven't done this myself though.07:59
rekafluxbox users should know08:00
dr_willisthe .xinitrc file can be edited. :P then you can boot to the console and use 'startx'08:00
rekamagog: there you go :)08:00
dr_willisor theres some others.08:01
tomchukmagog: you'd have to create a kahakai.desktop file and add it to your /usr/share/xsessions08:01
magogso tomchuk ty08:01
tomchuklook at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&highlight=e1708:01
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tomchukLuakagon: kahakai was kinda neat - sorta like fluxbox with good scriptability and some toys, but according to the lead dev the code was: "too messy and bloated and was a lost cause"08:03
tomchukmost of the code was inherited from another mostly dead WM named waimea08:03
Luakagono/~baby youre a lost cause08:03
tomchukI think I've got a screenshot lying around somewhere...08:04
maeis there anyway to reset permissions to default state .. i accidentally did a _very_ large borking with chown as root08:04
maeany way besides reinstallation?08:04
LuakagonI hope so08:04
dr_willis"matchbox" is an interesting windowmanager also. :P08:05
josh42mae; personally I'm not sure, but I feel your pain.. there should be a way to have permissions templates08:05
maehmmm :908:06
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maei just screwed my whol system08:06
maei just had finished configuring almost everything too08:07
maeAGH08:07
LuakagonGame over.08:07
maeman this sucks.08:07
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maei get to careless in su sometimes ;(08:08
maetoo *08:09
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josh42Anyone? Installing the new ati drivers: do I want to initialiaze xfree86-dga? (I'm using xorg)08:09
fr500hello08:09
fr500has anyone had network (cable network) problems when interface is under heavy traffic?08:09
Madeyehey, what does this mean "The following packages have been kept back:" ?08:10
josh42fr500; like cable problems how? disconnects?08:10
rekaMadeye: where'd you see it?08:10
fr500josh42, i meant it's not a wireless network, the interface just shuts down, i have to ifup it again08:10
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josh42fr500: yeah, I've had that.. 75% of the time it's heat on the network chip08:11
Madeyereka, after apt-get update && upgrade and thos are the packages acroread libpostproc0 libxvidcore4 mplayer-38608:11
fr500josh42, only happens with ubuntu08:12
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tomchukLuakagon: Found that kahakai screenshot: http://tomchuk.com/images/shots/shot_11-04-03.png featuring the defunct Velocity file manager, the very first release of Beep Media Player, Gimp 2.0.0, etc08:12
josh42fr500; I would still check with a canfan pointed at the chip.. just in case08:12
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learn25hello people ;-)08:12
learn25hello people ;-)08:12
fr500josh42, ok08:13
learn25help please. how to install skype?08:13
Luakagonthat is slightly annoying:/ big screenshot08:13
rekaMadeye: was this from warty to hoary?08:13
learn25is there an apt-get for skype?08:13
josh42tomchuk: nice wm.. lean08:13
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Luakagoncool tomchuk but I don't have a monitor shaped like that :/08:14
tomchukhehe - put three together :)08:14
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tomchukI had 6 at one point08:14
rekatomchuk: nice to see a bmp user.08:14
goofyheadedpunkI just installed Ubuntu on an HP Pavilion N3390 and both the console and X environments had a ~3cm border around the content of the screen and the border of the monitor. The console gap was fixed by using a 1024x784 frame buffer, but I don't know how to fix X or even what to google for. An image is here:  http://img293.echo.cx/img293/3444/sharonlaptopscreengap9qv.jpg Anyone have any idea what's going on?08:14
Dreamer3_what's the best way for linux and windows users to voice chat?08:14
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learn25help please. how to install skype?08:14
Dreamer3_ie, a program tha "just works" with firewalls and such...08:14
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learn25skype is for voice chat08:15
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tomchukreka: I actually wrote the gentoo ebuild for it back in the day08:15
josh42Dreamer3_; Skype08:15
learn25anybody knows how to install Skype?08:15
Dreamer3_josh42: but it's not apt-gettable?08:15
dr_willischeck the ubuntu wiki's yet?08:15
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josh42yeah, or the forum?08:16
syndinstalling ubuntu.. and im getting an error08:16
rekatomchuk: wow.08:16
synd"Couldn't retrieve bsdutils."08:16
tomchukgoofyheadedpunk: try googleing for a modeline for your laptop08:16
josh42Not apt-gettable, no.. I have a tonne repositories, and it's not in there08:16
syndsays it could be due to a network problem or my installation method08:16
syndany help"08:16
Luakagonhmm, I use a laptop, cant get any more monitors or I'd need to get in better shape ;)08:17
Dreamer3_josh42: but i'll work better than netmeeting/gnomemeeting?08:17
Dreamer3_(which almost never work if someone has a firewall)08:17
tomchukgoofyheadedpunk: or if you know the monitors specs go to http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl08:17
fr500josh42, this issue happens even on low traffic08:17
syndnalioth_zZzZzZz: ugh08:17
goofyheadedpunktomchuk: I'll try that and report back.08:17
rekagoofyheadedpunk: this might also be helpful: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolution08:17
Madeyereka,  hoary08:17
goofyheadedpunkreka: Did you mean this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:18
FlannelKingskype: http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype08:18
rekaMadeye: simple google search returned this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/26/2003/10/4/10867308:19
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rekagoofyheadedpunk: yes. sorry.08:20
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FlannelKinglearn25: http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype08:20
jeavishello How I Can Install Java SDK in my Ubuntu08:21
sobersabrejeavis,  do you want to be able to update/upgrade or your installing for NFS share ?08:22
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tomchukjeavis: http://wiki.arslinux.com/Debian#Java_1.508:22
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sobersabre( i mean and then you will have several versions of java )08:22
josh42Dreamer3_; Try it out.. it's designed for regular ppl :)08:22
josh42k, hopefully be right back.. always trepidation on driver install08:23
jeavistomchuk; I need to program some applets and applications08:23
tomchukjeavis: follow the instructions on that page and you'll have a properly set up jdk08:24
jeavistomchuk; thanks08:24
tomchuknp08:25
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sobersabrebtw, will make-jpkg work with SDK too ?08:27
sobersabrethe example is JRE08:27
sobersabreand what about the docs ?08:28
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oggeWhen is Xgl gonna be released in a sharp, stable version? What possibilities will it give?08:28
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visorhi guys08:29
MyKq3good morningy08:29
goofyheadedpunkReka, thanks. I'd been systematically forgetting horizsync. Silly me.08:29
goofyheadedpunkvisor: Hi.08:29
rekagoofyheadedpunk: np.  glad you fixed it.08:29
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visorhaha the topic is funny (please dont use breezy yet... really) :P08:30
goofyheadedpunkreka: Me too. Oh man am I ever glad.08:30
rekagoofyheadedpunk: :)08:30
visordo you guys know what thing must be used in order to have access to a cellphone in linux?08:30
tomchuksobersabre, jeavis: crap, those are jre directions, I didn't even look08:30
goofyheadedpunkCan't believe I forgot horizsync for so long though. The crazy things I overlook sometimes. Hehe.08:30
visori have really no idea of that, dmesg says the usual about isdn and usb interfaces08:30
tomchuksobersabre, jeavis: I think there might be a jdk package in hoary-extras08:30
topylivisor: depends on the phone. gammu, gnokii. there's something for siemens phones08:31
visorbut, is there some software or something to control cellphones in linux?08:31
sobersabretomchuk, i don't think.08:31
topylivisor: i use p3nfs to access my phone's file system08:31
sobersabrei think the most robust and working way is to install the package ffrom sun, and update JAVA_HOME,JRE_HOME and PATH.08:31
visortopily: mine is a Motorola E38008:31
tomchuksobersabre: well, anyways I think that make-jpkg will work with the jdk as well08:31
sobersabrebut it is not upgradeable or uninstallable.08:31
topylivisor: see if gammu supports it08:32
sobersabreoh...lemme try08:32
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visortopily: im checking it, thank you very much08:32
SuryeWhat wireless chipset for a 802.11g PCMCIA card is reccomended for high compatibility?08:32
Suryeis ndiswrapper compatible with ubuntu08:33
oggedo you need bluetooth on your phone to access to the cellphone with p3nfs?08:33
alka_trashSurye, yes ndiswrapper works fine08:34
MyKq3hello =] 08:35
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jeavistomchuk; how I can program and compile in emacs in java mode08:35
SuryeAlright, I'll just find a card supported by ndiswrapper then. Thanks08:35
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omerHeyy08:35
alka_trashSurye:08:35
MyKq3does any  one here know some good find file/folders program for gnome ?08:35
alka_trashSurye: card for desktop or laptop08:35
omerWhich Kernel I have in ubuntu 5.04?08:35
MyKq3about*08:35
Suryealka_trash: laptop08:35
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ukatoanyone use vsftpd?08:36
tomchukjeavis: I don't use emacs, but try googleing "java emacs" and you'll get a few hits08:36
tomchukukato: yup08:36
alka_trashSurye: check check it out!   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards08:36
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ukatocould you help me :P08:36
tomchuksuer08:36
tomchuk*sure08:36
omerHow can I know which kernel I have?08:36
ukatotomchuk, can i PM you08:37
tomchuksure08:37
rekaomer: uname -r08:37
alka_trashSurye: I would try to get one with native support :)08:37
Suryealka_trash: Perfect! Thank you ^^08:37
omerThank you08:37
rob^during a dist-upgrade to breezy I'm getting a lot of the following http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/296 is this a problem?08:37
rekarob^: you *do* know that breezy is still under development don't you? (read topic)08:38
alka_trashSurye:  I have the netgear WG311v2 and works out of the box08:38
rob^reka, yes, but its a bit hard to write documentation for something when you dont know what it is08:39
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sobersabretrying to use the fakeroot: /home/XXXXX/jdk-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin: line 524: /usr/share/application-registry/java-web-start.applications: Permission denied08:40
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sobersabrewhy ?08:41
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ubuntu/server frigid.wasteland.org08:42
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syndinstalling ubuntu.. and its asking which kernel to isntall.. lunux-386, linux-image-386, or linux-image-2.6.10-5-38608:43
syndwhich to pick?08:43
syndlinux-386*08:43
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robitaillesynd: they are all the same...08:44
lampshadeanyone use python in here with ubuntu?  I just apt-get'ed some wxPython examples and the demo doesn't even run, says it can't import module main.  Ideas?  Apt-get installed this.. I thought it would work08:44
syndrobitaille: alright. guess its a new thing with the new ubuntu cds.. never have came across the before08:44
rekasynd: weird.  i never get that.  you're the 2nd one i've seen ask.08:44
holycowwell, did you install python?08:44
holycowand how did you try to run the demos?08:44
rob^ahuman01, ok just had to wait for it to generate locales.. never mind08:44
holycowand yes, python works fine on debian/ubuntu, why wouldn't it?08:45
rob^stupid xchat08:45
syndreka: im using one of them official ubuntu cds..08:45
robitaillelinux-386 is just a metapackage that points to the latest kernel..currently 2.6.10-508:45
rekasynd: so did i.08:45
lampshadepython comes by default with ubuntu.  I think I know the problem though, I think that because of the debian way of gunzipping certain things, a needed file is gunzipped up08:45
syndive installed ubuntu maybe 10-15 times and never came across this before either : /08:45
rekasynd: well that's gonna confuse some windows users. :)08:45
lampshadeYou know, that thing where like /usr/share/docs are sometimes gunzipped.?08:45
rekasynd: from the same cd?08:45
syndi know!08:45
syndnah, this is the first time i used the official CD08:46
holycowoh right ubuntu team uses python a lot, makes sense08:46
rekasynd: ah.  must be newer ones than.08:46
holycowdid you install wxpython then?08:46
holycowheh, i've never not had wxpy not work on my box08:46
syndreka: it may be cause its got a network connection?08:46
syndits seeing a more recent kernel than the ones on the cd?08:47
rekasynd: probably.  i08:47
reka*'m still on dialup so i skip the network detect08:47
omerln -sf you_linux_source_dir linux08:47
syndahh i see. this is the first time ive done the network detect as well08:48
robitaillesynd:  that's probably it:  you are probably picking up the latest kernel security update08:48
omerWhat I need to write in place of "you_linux_sourc"?08:48
robitaillevia the network08:48
rekasynd: mystery solved. :)08:48
syndreka: yea, i think so too08:50
syndthat ubuntu, a smart fellow08:50
synd: D08:51
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freddy_omfg this distro makes me jizz08:52
freddy_it is so awesome.08:52
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freddy_now, how to figure if i have nvidia installed08:53
freddy_glxgears...damn i cant remember the command08:53
rekafreddy_: glxinfo | grep direct08:54
slylmao, you sound a little bit too excited08:54
freddy_dude im serious08:54
freddy_i found "the" distro08:54
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freddy_i mean, im not serious about jizzing08:54
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Prottiefreddy_: we all have :D08:54
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rekai know i've stopped jumping.08:55
Prottiedebian with graphical browsers etc ;)08:55
KhaBalhow do i install LAMP?08:56
topyliKhaBal: install linux, apache, mysql and perl :)08:57
erommerlol08:57
topylior php08:57
Prottieor php :P08:57
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KhaBalinstall linux? im already on linux08:57
bimberis/perl/php ???08:57
topylihehe08:57
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topylibimberi: it's a choice08:57
slyfreddy_ where you from ?08:57
bimberitopyli: k08:57
KhaBalapache, myql and perl?08:57
KhaBalLinux, Apache, MySQL, PHP08:58
KhaBali think thats all you need08:58
topyliyeah well i guess it's php really08:58
Prottiewhats the hype about mysql actually? why do ppl prefer that over post?08:58
freddy_venezuela sly08:58
Prottieis it better on anything at all?08:58
KhaBaldo you need perl?08:58
gobeavsdoes anyone know of any howto/guide for getting good multimedia support in hoary? Play mp3s, wma, wmv, etc08:58
slynice :)08:58
freddy_sly, does my english sucks THAT bad?08:58
slynot at all , its almost as good as mine if not better08:58
slyand im from england08:59
topyliProttie: it's just fashion08:59
ogge  gobeavs,, apt-get install vlc08:59
bimberiProttie: apparently it's faster - hence better for web based apps on the 'net08:59
rekagobeavs: we can help you out. :)08:59
topyliKhaBal: i don't think you can even install debian/ubuntu without perl08:59
gobeavsreka: ok....you wanna start? :P08:59
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freddy_sly, so how you noticed i wasnt all english? hehe08:59
slyi dont cme across many people that are in linux chans :(08:59
reka!restricted08:59
uboturumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:59
KhaBaltopyli: there so many apache files do you need them all?08:59
slycome*08:59
gobeavsogge: never heard of it.....I'll look into it, thanks08:59
KhaBaltopyli: lol08:59
rekagobeavs: start with ubotu's output link09:00
KhaBalwhats perl the command thing?09:00
oggegobeavs, try it out! you have to be logged in as sudo first.09:00
oggetype sudo su09:00
gobeavsreka? output link?09:00
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topyliKhaBal: just apache, then think what modules you need. google for a lamp tutorial09:00
rekagobeavs: see what ubotu said.09:00
rekagobeavs: or do what ogge said. :)09:00
freddy_sly, i would love to go to england some day :(09:00
KhaBaltopyli: can you just get every module?09:00
freddy_it looks lovely =/09:00
topyliKhaBal: there must be a "install lamp in 10 minutes" howto on the web09:00
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gobeavsoh09:01
gobeavsok09:01
gobeavsI thought you misstyped ubuntu :D09:01
rekaogge: you should recommend just plain sudo.  no need to sudo su09:01
omerHow can I install Java (sun) to firefox?09:01
gobeavsok, I'll try it out ogge09:01
gobeavsi've got su set up, don't like sudo :-P09:01
KhaBalhttp://www.mkaz.com/reference/php/setup_linux.html   ??09:01
topyliKhaBal: it all depends on the application you will be running09:01
oggereka. ok.09:01
oggesudo apt-get install vlc09:01
Prottiesudo su -09:01
Prottie;)09:01
gobeavswhat advantage does vlc have over something like mplayer?09:02
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oggevlc plays video and music. plays everything.09:02
gobeavsok09:02
oggeover mplayer, I dont know.09:02
d-manhey09:02
oggethey are similar.09:02
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ProttieI use vlc when mplayer have problems and mplayer when vlc have problems.09:02
d-mananyone here use unixshell.com for vps hosting with ubuntu?09:02
topyliKhaBal: the tutorial installs everything from source09:02
slyisnt all that good freddy_ :)09:02
topyliKhaBal: understandable, it's on fedora :)09:03
_root_can anybody helpme to uresolve this error....Caught signal 11.  Server aborting09:03
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oggeWhat you guys think about Xgl? "Next generation graphicshandler for linux"?09:03
gobeavsProttie: ok, thanks....this is why I think Linux isn't ready for primetime :D09:03
gobeavsogge: is that the open-source graphics card? Or somethign else?09:04
gobeavs*related to it09:04
freddy_sly, hells yeah, and i just saw a few pictures of the apple store there.....even an APPLE store looks nice there :P09:04
oggeopen-source openGL I think. Not really sure.09:04
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slyi didnt even knew we got an apple store ;)09:04
rekaogge: OS-dependent?09:04
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oggehope it could fasten up the GUI in linux a bit.09:04
oggereka, dont think so.09:04
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freddy_sly, your missing all the fun, it looks like a museum09:05
freddy_lol09:05
Prottiegobeavs: well I am doing the same in macosx :)09:05
Prottiegobeavs: and in windows I am not able to play everything without looking for codecs everywhere...so..09:05
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gobeavsProttie: really? I haven't really found anything WinMedia player 10 won't play09:06
Prottiegobeavs: you need to watch more pr0n man :P09:06
slylmao09:06
rekagobeavs: divx avis09:06
freddy_karsten, !!! can you show me the screenshot you showed me the other day? in linuxpeach.com? ive been looking for that screenshots for days lol09:06
gobeavsProttie: I think I'll pass :-P09:06
FlannelKingKhaBal, search for LAMP in the ubuntuforums, theres at least two tutorials09:07
freddy_kassetra, i mean09:07
KhaBalok09:07
rekagobeavs: quicktime, realmedia09:07
freddy_kassetra, !!! can you show me the screenshot you showed me the other day? in linuxpeach.com? ive been looking for that screenshots for days lol09:07
freddy_jesus who owns linuxpeach.com kassetra or karsten ? hehehe09:07
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slyhmm slight question09:08
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slyhow the hell i remove the update icon out of the notification area ?09:08
rekasly: update :P09:09
freddy_updating LOL09:09
freddy_:P09:09
slyi have updated =\09:09
gobeavsreka: fine, it won't play .mov :D09:09
slybut it just greys it out09:09
freddy_update MORE!09:09
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freddy_haha09:09
gobeavsso I need quicktime...but I dont run into that that much09:09
gobeavsogge: thanks for the vlc recommendation...worked for an mpg (I know, it isn't the toughest test :D)09:09
freddy_sly, a piece of duck tape works....09:09
freddy_:P09:09
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slyhaha09:10
rekasly: do you have anything else you need in the notification area?09:10
pastyhermitalright...09:10
slyyeh , gaim azureus, couple other things , and i cant be doing with gaim/azureus constantly open by removing the area09:11
slybut overall its a small annoyance that i can live with =D09:12
rekasly: ah.  yep, was gonna tell you to remove it. :)09:12
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budish76hello09:12
budish76anyone can help me09:12
gobeavswhats your question?09:12
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budish76i would like to open the folder at my partition which last xandros linux installation09:13
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freddy_sly, jesus..im finding it like imposible man09:13
budish76which the home folder09:13
budish76how could i do this on ubuntu?09:13
slyfor what dude ?09:13
freddy_i got an idea....make a square of that size and the color of the menu....and change the icon for that square09:13
freddy_sly, the icon removing09:14
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slyits ok i just banged the notification area to top left of screen on its own09:14
slyas so its out of my way09:14
freddy_any of you guys have an screenshot that i can see? :D09:14
slywww.freewebs.com/sly86/screen.png09:14
rekabudish76: mount the partition09:15
ukatoheh09:15
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freddy_nice sly thanks09:17
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Deanodriverhi09:18
freddy_ok reboot time09:18
slyreboot ?09:18
slywhats that word ?09:18
Deanodriveri'm having issues playing mp3's or videos with any app (totem won't work, neither does XMMS or Music Player), but the sound works fine in apps such as Gaim, anyone got any ideas?09:18
freddy_yes, =/09:19
freddy_hehe09:19
slyreboot for what ?09:19
IceDC571i wish my friends would really consider switching to linux instead of having a spyware os09:19
IceDC571doesnt gaim os OSS output?09:19
IceDC571use*09:19
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Deanodrivermine's set to Automatic :P09:19
rekabudish76: keep it in the channel please.  more people can help that way. :)09:19
IceDC571Deanodriver: try to use OSS output for xmms let me know if it works09:19
Deanodriverhow do i set it?09:19
IceDC571its in the preferences09:20
freddy_sly, play CS...in....win*cough*dows09:20
Deanodriverit's already set to OSS09:20
IceDC571try alsa09:20
rekaDeanodriver: change it *from* OSS09:20
Deanodriveroh09:20
Deanodriver:)09:20
slyyou know with a full day of trouble you can get that working =\09:20
budish76ok09:20
DeanodriverCouldn't open audio with ALSA09:20
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budish76reka: thks09:20
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Deanodriveresound seems to work, though09:21
freddy_now brb09:21
IceDC571Deanodriver: thats your problem, alsa is probably broken09:21
Deanodriverthanks09:21
Deanodriverahh09:21
Deanodriverstupid onboard sound09:21
Deanodriverworked fine on my other mobo :)09:21
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rekaDeanodriver: no, it's a common problem09:21
Deanodriveryeah?09:21
Deanodriverput a new board in with a different chipset09:21
rekayep.  everyone has to change the output plugin it seems. :)09:21
Deanodriversound and everything worked beautifully with my old board09:22
Deanodriverbut this one was having major issues09:22
IceDC571Deanodriver: what onboard chipset do you have?09:22
Deanodriverwhat, motherboard chipset?09:22
IceDC571ys09:22
DeanodriverSiS 741GX :(09:22
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KhaBalwhat files are needed in synaptic to get LAMP working?09:22
Deanodrivertook my old board (which had a VIA KT600) back for warranty, and this was the only one they had in stock09:23
DeanodriverAsus A7S8X-MX09:23
IceDC571yeah SiS for me works half of the time09:23
Deanodriveryeah09:23
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holycowspeaking of chipsets, which would be considered the best supported?09:23
Deanodriveri used to get mp3's playing while holding the mouse over the file in nautilus, but even that doesn't seem to work anymore09:23
Deanodriverintel?09:24
Deanodriveror via?09:24
holycownot via09:24
Deanodriveralthough you'd think nvidia would be pretty decent09:24
holycowvia are assholes, they support nothing open source09:24
IceDC571they support M$ 64 bit09:24
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Luakagonwell, I don't support anything open source, I just use it.09:24
IceDC571which shouldnt matter to me anymore since im all for linux09:24
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KhaBalwhat files are needed in synaptic to get LAMP working?09:24
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holycowi don't use windows, i dont give a rats ass if it works with it09:25
holycow:)09:25
Deanodriverhave you selected the right repositories KhaBal?09:25
holycowoh wait scratch that via comment09:25
Deanodriveralthough i don't know if it'd matter09:25
holycowits asus that is anty open source09:25
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holycowokay i rememberd my hate09:25
holycow:)09:25
Deanodriveryeah, I don't like Asus either09:25
IceDC571well the last mobo i used was a via supporting amd64, everything worked real nicely in linux09:25
budish76reka: pls explain how to mount partition thks09:25
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Deanodriverbut a working asus is better than a dead Gigabyte, just09:26
IceDC571Deanodriver: i'm impressed you don't like asus09:26
DeanodriverI've never liked Asus09:26
Deanodriverespecially their BIOS's09:26
Deanodriver*shudder*09:26
IceDC571personally i like abit, but i wont go out buying that fatal1ty crap09:26
KhaBalDeanodriver: thats what im asking, whats the right repositories to LAMP? well annd the LAMP files are already in synaptic09:26
holycowasus is fine if your a windows weenie, they are hardcore against open source tho09:26
IceDC571i hate even spelling it09:26
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DeanodriverKhaBal, no idea :)09:27
Deanodriversoon as I get the money, new mobo and CPU :)09:27
rekabudish76: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda09:27
IceDC571what mobo brand are you going to get?09:27
Deanodrivernot sure09:27
DeanodriverI would have gone Gigabyte09:27
Deanodriverbut I've had three die in three months09:27
Deanodriverpossibly Abit09:28
Deanodrivermy last Abit board was excellent09:28
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IceDC571yeah you cant go wrong with an abit, as long as you dont buy their high end crap09:28
IceDC571like the fatal1ty series that comes with fans everywhere, decorations09:28
DeanodriverI once paid $270AUD for an Abit KT7A, and didn't overclock it at all09:28
Deanodriverwith a shitty Duron that cost less than half of that :P09:28
rekabudish76: and paste the output in paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:29
holycowtyan supposedly is supposed to move all their mobos to linux bios at some point09:29
smackopenbios? I doubt it.09:29
holycowonce they do that, i will be looking vey favourably toward them09:29
holycowdoubt it?09:29
holycowi have the presidents interview09:29
smackeventually as in 2020?09:29
holycowtyan developers are on the openbios mailing lists09:29
holycowcontributing daily09:29
IceDC571i forgot about tyan09:29
holycowi don't see where the scepticism is09:29
holycowi'm on the mailing list09:30
DeanodriverI bet there's a majority of Tyan boards in Linux machines09:30
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holycowDeanodriver, so far i've bought mobos on chipsets, and they have ranged all over the place, but never asus09:30
smackI'm skeptical of everything.. who are you?!09:30
smackok well that's interesting.09:30
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Deanodriverholycow, yeah, I've had no problems with the VIA chipsets09:31
holycowsmack, i read an interview with they tyan president over a year ago about t heir move to linux bios on ALL mobos ...09:31
holycow... and signed on the linux bios mailing list to check out the hubub09:31
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holycowtheir devs are on there09:31
IceDC571but does tyan currently make good solid motherboards?09:31
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DeanodriverI'd assume so09:31
smackholycow: like they'd make all their boards linuxbios capable or they'd only put linuxbios on them all?09:31
holycowwhile who knows how long it will take, i see it as an extremely positive quantity of work going on09:31
Deanodriversince they're server boards09:32
IceDC571ohhh..09:32
holycowwell if i can find the article ... you can read for your self and judge if its just bs09:32
smackI don't really see much advantage except for clustering or something. I heard you can boot faster and update your bios remotely.09:32
Deanodriverso I'll have to reinstall Alsa?09:32
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Adrossanyone here tried cedega?09:33
smackyup I'm running it.09:33
Adrossdoes it run well?09:33
Adrosswhat games do u play on it?09:33
parabolizeAdross: for some games yes09:33
smackI probably shouldn't shoot off at the mouth about linuxbios.. I hardly know anything about it. Sometimes my mouth is faster than my mind. ;)09:34
smackWell I've tried two games on it so far.09:34
smackI've tried warcraft3 frozen throne and GTA San Andreas.09:34
Adrosshow did they go?09:34
holycowhttp://www.linuxforums.org/news/article-22231.html  <-- click on the link in that post09:34
holycowyou tell me09:34
smackthe side scrolling by moving your mouse to the edges of the screen is broken unless you run it in opengl mode.09:34
holycowokay less than a year ago09:34
smackin opengl mode it doesn't want to switch resolutions however.09:35
smackother than that it gets on bnet fine and plays dota which is all I care about.09:35
Adrosswhat about cs and q3?09:35
smacksan andreas runs good but crashes when you try to change display res.09:35
topyliAdross: there's a native linux q309:35
smackQ3 has a native linux version.09:35
Adrosswell i'll be09:35
parabolizequake3? that has linux native code..09:35
Adrosswhere from?09:35
smackftp.idsoftware.com baby09:35
topyliAdross: id software :)09:36
Adrossfree to download?09:36
topyliyes09:36
Adrosswait a minute09:36
Adrosswill i have to lose my pants?09:36
smackyou got to buy the game09:36
topyliAdross: you'll need the windows cd to get the data files09:36
rekasmack: does your refresh rate get stuck on 60hz?09:36
holycowheh09:36
smackyou can get the demo to see how it'd run.09:36
holycowyes, you do haveto loose your pants09:36
holycowheh09:36
Adrosskk, cheers09:36
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Adrossjust thinking about buying cedega09:36
smackreka: you read my post ;D.. it turns to 60Hz when I fire up a game like postal or tribes2.09:37
rekasmack: ah, and have you resolved it?09:37
smacknot yet ;(09:37
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rekasmack: what about q3 and the others?09:37
Adrossand what linux programs can i use to mount an iso?09:37
holycowQ: Is Tyan now working with the Linux community to optimize its products for use with the Linux kernel?09:37
holycowChang: We do a couple of different things, but not so much in the driver field. At the moment, the company is working in the HPC arena developing diskless clusters in large installations, by compressing a bootable version of Linux onto Flash. That is a big job for us, to port all of our systems to a Linux BIOS. Tyan has been working for some time at developing a Linux BIOS for its motherboards. The company will soon switch all of its boards09:37
holycow to having only Linux in the BIOS, for reliability and for quick boot and reboot capabilities.09:37
topyliAdross: mount :)09:38
smackreka: let me try q3 real quick I don't remember.09:38
Adrossyour serious?09:38
Adrossdamn, i looked for a whole weekend09:38
rekasmack: thanks.  i'd be interested as i'm thinking of trying out q309:38
topyliAdross: yes. mount -t loop blah blah something.iso09:38
mikas-o loop09:38
Adrossah well, thanks, see you guys later09:38
topylimikas: yes09:39
mama|SupaSlayintel celeron, win98, 15gb hdrive, 128 ram, 599 mhz. do u think ubuntu would work on my comp?09:39
smackreka: quake3 starts up at 100Hz fine.. hmm.09:39
rekamama|SupaSlay: sure.  you may want to run a more lightweight wm though09:40
holycowmama|SupaSlay, sure, get more ram tho09:40
mama|SupaSlayalright. thnx09:40
holycowmama|SupaSlay, a newer hd would help as well, thats going to be a very slow hd09:40
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holycow600mhz system is still a decent system, with enough ram and a newer hd frankly09:40
rekasmack: well that's good news for me. :)09:41
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biffurtcan anyone here give me a hand with a problem with bittorrent?09:41
smackall my games sort of run like crud now anyways.. sold my 9800pro for the linux switch and I'm on a gef2 64MB right now.09:42
biffurtI've tried using both gnome BT that come with ubuntu, and Azureus - both gave me similar errors when trying to DL a torrent09:42
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holycowati?09:42
holycow*ew*09:42
smackI know a little about bittorrent.09:42
biffurtSomething about failing to create a directory. Which I'm sure is a permissions issue, but I tried to change permissions on the folder it's DLing to, and that didn't help09:42
biffurtLike, it's trying to create a folder for the torrent but can't.09:43
biffurtand I ran chmod a=wrx on the folder it's downloading the torrents to... which should let azureus make a new directory there, right?09:43
biffurtor am I misunderstanding this.09:44
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smackcan you do a ls -l on the directory and paste the drwx-r-x thing?09:44
topyliif you run azureus as a user, it should be able to write to that user's home directory09:44
biffurtah, ok. I was trying to write to something outside of the home directory. which is probably the problem.09:45
biffurtdrwxr-xr-x    2 root root  4096 2005-06-27 19:29 unsorted09:45
biffurtsmack: that's the line you just asked for, I think09:46
smackyup09:46
smackyou can read that as you-group-everyone09:46
smackerr I mean owner-group-everyone09:46
smackso root has read write execute and everyone has read and execute but no write ;(09:46
biffurtok. that's the - there, right?09:47
smackyeah there needs to be a w there.09:47
smackor you can change the owner.09:47
biffurtI tried to change that, I thought. I ran "sudo chmod a=wrx ./unsorted"09:47
biffurtthat should change the permissions for all to wrx, right?09:47
biffurtor am I misunderstanding the syntax?09:48
topylibiffurt: just don't put your files in the system space09:48
smackwhere'd you make this directory is it just in /unsorted ?09:48
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biffurtI have a partition to share data between windows and linux09:48
smacktrying to figure out if it'd be best to just make yourself the owner of it.09:48
biffurtIt's in there09:48
biffurtso like /datashare/unsorted09:49
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biffurtI'm keeping all my movies/music/etc in there09:49
smackyou might just do a 'sudo chown biffurt.biffurt unsorted'09:49
metzenso is breezy useable for an advanced user? or is stuff just borked bad?09:49
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topylibiffurt: then either you or the 'users' group should own it09:49
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holycowmetzen, depends on you definition of advanced user09:50
holycowif by advanced user you mean master programmer in 4000 languages, with the familiarity of 16 000 codebases, sure09:50
holycow-_-09:50
smacktopyli is prolly right. I'm still a linux noob and don't know how things generally go.09:50
metzenhodgman: lol09:50
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biffurtok. so to change ownership, the format is "chmod user.user filename"09:51
biffurt?09:51
holycowcorrect09:51
metzenholycow: heh, but seriously though, is it  broken?09:51
holycowchmod -R user.user folder if you need to chmod an entire folder tree09:51
smackI just looked at my users group and I'm not in there by default.09:51
topylimetzen: even if it works today, it may break tomorrow09:51
metzenah indeed09:51
smackI think this is getting too complicated. :)09:51
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holycowmetzen, i'm being an ass, i donno :)09:52
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metzenwhat kind of things usually break?09:52
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biffurtok. lemme try that, holycow09:52
smackif your only going to use it under your user you might just take ownership of it with chown. and leave the permissions as they are.09:52
holycowmetzen, like on debian, pretty much everything09:54
holycowmetzen, get a spare hd on a removable tray, or install vmware and run a version virtually and see09:54
biffurtsmack: using chown, do I need to be in the directory itself or its parent?09:55
biffurtI'm in the parent directory, running sudo chown user.user unsorted, but it's spitting back "No such file or directory"09:55
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biffurtsorry, I know this is all real newbie crap. I just started trying to learn this stuff yesterday.09:55
smackbiffurt: you got to be in it's parent if you don't want to do a full path to the directory.09:56
biffurtok09:56
smackif there are subdirectories in there make sure to use a -R too. ;)09:56
biffurtgotcha09:56
biffurt-R basically means "and everything inside", right?09:57
smackthe -R is for recursion.09:57
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biffurtNow it's saying "changing of ownership 'directory': Operation not permitted09:58
biffurtBut I'm running this from sudo09:58
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smackwierd.. it should allow you to do anything through sudo.09:58
smackis this drive ntfs or fat32?09:58
biffurtfat3209:58
smackthat should be read/write no problem.09:59
fake64just a option aye09:59
fake64-_-09:59
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smackI'm not too familiar with it tho. Did you modify your fstab to mount it or did you issue a mount command?09:59
biffurtNot sure. i set it up when I installed hoary10:00
biffurtI didn't manually edit the fstab, that's for sure.10:00
smackahh so it's prolly in your fstab.10:00
smackcan you do a 'cat /etc/fstab' and look on the line for the hdd.10:00
smackit should say fat32 on the line.10:00
smackI'm wondering if it's got 'ro' in the options.10:01
biffurtsays vfat10:01
biffurtoptions are defaults10:01
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biffurtlol10:01
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biffurtfigures, nothing ever goes easily with this machine. =P10:02
biffurtat least as far as linux is concerned. ubuntu is the first distro that even came close to working.10:02
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smackI'm having pretty good luck with it so far too. I havn't booted in to windows in a week :)10:02
han_lol10:02
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han_thats the way to go10:03
biffurtsmall victories, right?10:03
sugoruyohi folks10:03
sugoruyocan someone help with azureus?10:03
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biffurtlol10:03
biffurtmaybe, sugoruyo10:03
smackI tried linux on my desktop before and it seemed too clunky. Ubuntu seems pretty decent tho.10:03
biffurtI'm having troule with it myself.10:03
han_yeh10:03
han_windows is so slow on my laptop10:03
sugoruyobiffurt, it just won't run10:03
han_ubuntu is like, so much faster on this laotop10:04
biffurtyeah, same here han_10:04
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slyjust wont run ?10:04
sugoruyoi get it from synaptic10:04
biffurtsugoruyo: how did you install? via apt-get or did you compile it yourself?10:04
smackbiffurt: I know what your problem is!10:04
wizomy ;laptop errr, embaressingly struggles with 2 internet explorers in windows10:04
smackit just occured to me :D10:04
biffurtlay it on me, smack10:04
sugoruyoor through console10:04
sugoruyobut when i run it it won't load10:05
sugoruyonothing10:05
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smackyou have to give the user permission to read the mount I think.10:05
biffurtI have no problem reading it... like, I can see the contents of the drive fine.10:05
biffurtand play files and stuff from it10:05
wizouh huh10:05
smackoh oh.. *goes quiet again*10:05
wizobiffurt, wad are u trying to do?10:06
wizoazereus problem?10:06
biffurttrying to save bt files to a particular folder10:06
biffurtyeah10:06
slymay i ask the specs of your laptop ?10:06
biffurtand gnome bittorrent10:06
wizooo ic10:06
wizosly, talking to me?10:06
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slyyup yup :)10:06
biffurtBut it won't let me change the owner of the folders10:06
wizo=S10:06
sugoruyoif i try opening a console and running azureus i get a bunch of messages10:06
biffurtlike what, sugoruyo?10:06
sugoruyoshould i paste somewhere?10:07
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wizosugoruyo, paste it at the site in the topic10:07
sugoruyowizo, i know10:07
biffurtttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:07
slyand it struggles to run windows................ that just seems a ram issue..... 128 is nowhere near enough for todays sh***10:08
wizo=/10:08
wizobut linux runs fine on it10:08
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wizoanyway, anyone has any idea how ot like err, set a process to have more processing power? like in windows how u can set it ot a higher priority10:08
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slywith 128ram i wouldnt run anything but fluxbox or icewm at the most10:09
holycowlol10:09
holycowi've run gnome 2.8 fine on 64 megs10:09
wizodoesnt matter, ubuntu runs faster than windows, and thats good enuff for me10:09
wizoim running gnome nwo as well10:10
sugoruyowizo, i did i'm on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/29710:10
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holycowinfact debian sarge loads into 48 megs ram at boot if needed10:10
Craspif i had only 64meg i would deffo stick to windowmaker10:10
holycow128 should be fine to run hoary, don't expect miracles butyou will be okay10:10
wizoanyway, anyone has any idea how ot like err, set a process to have more processing power? like in windows how u can set it ot a higher priority10:10
Craspwizo: renice10:11
wizo??10:11
Craspwizo: you can set it's "niceness"10:11
wizoreally?10:11
Craspwizo: type man renice on a prompt and it will tell you10:11
wizoyeh firing up my console now10:11
sugoruyohow bout xfce?10:11
wizothx10:11
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Soooohehe10:11
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Soooo.10:12
wizoim like running mdcrack to contribute to a fellow member`s hash lookup site10:12
wizoand its going kinda slow =s10:12
wizo897Mhz...10:12
CraspSoooo: what language is that?10:12
CraspSoooo: it looks japanese10:12
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Soooosorry utf810:12
sugoruyoor chinese10:12
Craspor korean o_O10:13
CraspSoooo: utf-8 is just fine :)10:13
sugoruyonot korean10:13
sugoruyothose are chinese character10:13
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Craspok, if you say so :)10:13
fabbione510:13
sugoruyofirst one is tree10:13
fabbioneops10:13
Craspi have no idea of these languages10:13
sugoruyothe second i can't make out10:13
biffurtsugoruyo: It's working alright saving to the home directory, I'm just gonna stick with that for now10:13
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sugoruyoand the third one is mother+child which i think means to like10:14
biffurtI've got another question though, now that it's managed to create a directory it's giving me the error "Error (the port you are using (6881))"10:14
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biffurtwhich isn't too informative10:14
IceDC571my ipod is working on linux!! yay!!!!!10:15
biffurtanyone have any clue what I can do about that?10:15
biffurtyay!10:15
sugoruyobiffurt, if i could only get the damn thing started...10:15
biffurtthat's right, I forgot.10:15
biffurtI took a look at that log, unfortunately it all looked like greek to me, sorry =/10:15
biffurti'm just a newb at this stuff10:15
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sugoruyowhat do you mean it all looked greek to u ?  ;-/10:16
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biffurti didn't understand it10:16
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greystreethello10:16
biffurtThe only thing I can think of, looking at it, is that maybe you're missing a library?10:16
sugoruyowell i can ensure it is not greek....10:17
greystreetI am having a problem with running foomatic-gui10:17
sugoruyoi think it's because of the charset10:17
biffurtIt's a figure of speech10:17
qoshow do i see which fireware version my ipw2200 wlan card uses? i want to set it into monitor mode, but that's only supportet in firmware version 1.04... so i try to find out which firmware i use...10:17
biffurtahh10:17
sugoruyoi'm using a greek charset being greek and all....10:17
greystreetits telling me I need to import gnomevfs and its trying to use gnome.vfs10:17
greystreetcan someone please tell me how to import gnomevfs10:18
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biffurtyeah. unfortunately I don't have enough experience with this stuff to help you out, sugoruyo10:18
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sugoruyowell if only someone did oh well10:18
wizowads the highest priority for renice?10:18
ukatohas anyone used stratagus before?10:19
greystreetcan someone please tell me how to import gnomevfs10:19
biffurtsugoruyo, you might try posting to the ubuntu forums10:19
wizocrasp: wads the highest priority u can set for a process10:20
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slyanyone do video encoding under ubuntu ?10:20
biffurtgreystreet: if you're just looking for the runtime files, "sudo apt-get libgnomevfs2-0" should work10:20
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biffurtSorry, sudo apt-get install libgnomevfs2-010:21
wizocya10:21
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greystreetthanx biffurt, but the thing is I used synaptix package manager10:21
greystreetI think installed it already10:21
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biffurtahh, ok. in that case, I've got no advice. I'm real new to this stuff myself =/10:21
biffurtalso, mack, thanks for your help.10:22
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biffurtI've gotta go get some sleep. good night all, and good luck.10:22
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holycowhttp://klik.atekon.de/  <-- hey check this out10:24
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holycowi've never heard of that project10:24
holycowthat looks bot usefull and a wonderfull way to spread spyware10:24
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twb_heeellllloooo everyone10:26
ukatohas anyone used stratagus before?10:26
twb_would it be safe strapping up a tri boot system?/10:27
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twb_Does anyone know if it would safe to run a tri-boot system?10:28
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holycowas many as you want10:28
twb_k thx10:28
ukatoi've heard that's a bad idea10:28
holycowone dude installed something like 200 different os's on one box as an experiment10:28
twb_i have XP/Ubuntu right now but i want to add Debian10:29
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synddamn netsplits10:29
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pepsixthis is a bumpy ride10:29
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twb_whats a good program to dl music for Linux?10:30
nikkiawell, we *were* warned that they were taking 3 of the irc servers offline :)10:30
syndtwb_: gtk-gnutella10:31
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qostry to install the new ipw2200 driver, but when i call "sudo make" it says "make -C /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build SUBDIRS=/home/iface/ipw2200-1.0.4 MODVERDIR=/home/iface/ipw2200-1.0.4 modules"10:31
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syndtwb_: im not too fond of limewire10:31
qos"make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden.  Schluss."10:31
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twb_is there anything accessible through apt-et?10:31
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twb_apt-get or synaptic10:32
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qosis there anyone talking to me?10:32
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qosis there anyone talking to me?10:32
Craspnice10:32
twb_whats with all this jargon ^^^^^10:32
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syndtwb_: apt-get install gtk-gnutella10:32
Craspit's called server shutdowns and netsplits10:32
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twb_synd: and i can dl music??10:33
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syndtwb_: uh, yes10:33
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metzennicotine and amule are decent10:33
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nikkiabittorrent can be good for music too, if you find the right trackers10:34
syndanything but limewire or azureus10:34
ukatono one likes limewire?10:35
syndlimewire is poorly written10:35
synda resource hog10:35
ukatoah.10:35
ukatoi've started using bittorrent for music a lot more now10:35
twb_ummm how do i use apt-et?10:35
twb_get*10:35
braddwhat about gift10:36
syndtwb_: sudo apt-get install10:36
twb_in a terminal?10:36
syndnever messed with gift10:36
syndtwb_: yes.10:36
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braddhttp://gift.sourceforge.net/about.mhtml10:36
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twb_synd: i got it, now how can i use it?10:38
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rasputnikmorning10:38
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syndtwb_: type gtk-gnutella in the console10:39
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syndtwb_: its pretty self explanatory10:39
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twb_and i do this everytime  i want to use it10:40
rasputnikI want to get my head around the whole testing/stable thing (on Hoary) - any definitive docs?10:40
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twb_thx synd10:40
syndtwb_: make a launcher if you want10:41
twb_how do u do that10:41
tiglionabbittwb_: right-click the desktop or somewhere10:41
twb_ok...10:41
syndtwb_: you should take a gander at the ubuntu wiki10:41
twb_there a website or console command for that10:42
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syndtwb_: a launcher is comparable to a shortcut in windows10:42
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twb_ahh i see10:42
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rasputnikeither the netsplit just ended, or everyone syncs their alarm clocks :)10:44
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wizzardpls, how do I remove a package without dependency check?10:45
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mypapitattack of the clonse?10:45
mypapitattack of the clone?10:45
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tiglionabbitwizzard: dpkg?10:46
jose__Is there any command that updates the changes in /etc/fstab ?10:46
tiglionabbitjose__: I don't believe you have to do anything after changing fstab10:46
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wizzardbut I need to remove only one package withtou all packages dependent on it10:47
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jose__tiglionabbit, I mean, I wanna see the changes immediately.10:47
wizzardthanks10:48
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slyanyone fmailier with tovid ?10:49
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HostingGeekheh10:49
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HostingGeekbreezy is broken...10:50
tiglionabbitjose__: dunno, man.  You could just mount them yourself..  sorry10:50
syndahhh i love the talking heads10:50
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tiglionabbitsay, I'm new to gnutella.  How comes when I search it the stuff I want to download always says "no sources" ?  I mean, if it found it, wouldn't it have to have at least one source?10:51
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fake64HostingGeek, ?10:51
HostingGeekBTW Linux is probberly breaking this patent  http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/28/2334224&tid=155&tid=1710:51
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jose__tiglionabbit, this is my case: I've just changed the file permisson of mounted device in fstab, and I wanna see it.10:52
fake64HostingGeek, what's name of this patent?10:53
brentdaxIs there a Linux equivalent of "ipconfig /release" and "ipconfig /renew"?10:53
Mirvbrentdax: ifdown eth0, ifup eth0 (or wlan0 or something else)10:53
fake64useless action10:54
tiglionabbitjose__: try "xfce fstab mount manager"10:54
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tiglionabbitnot as a command, I mean the program10:54
HostingGeekfabbione: the you look at A and then look at B and I show you A again patent10:54
HostingGeek* fake6410:54
fake64what?10:55
HostingGeekfake64: aka user history10:55
brentdaxHmm, thanks. although it didn't fix the overall problem.  I can ping anything on my local network, and the outside address of my router (although I'm not sure that's important), but I can't ping anything outside my network.  If I switch to a static IP it starts working.  I'm on an Intel integrated wireless card.10:55
nikkiamirv, i'd suggest just running dhclient personally10:55
brentdax(I'm configuring a new laptop, and typing this on my desktop.)10:55
jose__tiglionabbit, Need I change my WM to xfce?10:57
fake64no10:57
tiglionabbitjose__: nope, you can run it in gnome10:57
liablebrentdax: what do you want to change?10:57
fake64because gtk is begin ..... hehehehehehehhehhe10:57
oggewhat is priorited in ubuntu, userprograms or backgroundprocesses?10:57
oggewhen it comes to ram10:58
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twb_anyone know where i can get a mp3 plugin?10:58
jose__what's the name of the package?10:59
brentdaxHmm?  I'd like to let the laptop to still be able to contact the outside world when it's working thorugh DHCP.10:59
tiglionabbittwb_: mplayer-mozilla10:59
twb_tthat apt-get?10:59
tiglionabbitor is it mozilla mplayer...   Searh synaptic for mozilla10:59
mjrogge, those that need it10:59
Mirvbrentdax: doesn't that sound a bit like gateway is not set? ie. that all the traffic would go through the router. anyway i'm not an expert in these things10:59
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brentdaxYeah, that's what I was thining when I saw how it was behaving.10:59
nikkiabrent, i'd check that the router's dhcp is correctly reporting the gateway and dns details10:59
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nikkiaalso, my wireless card has a habit of dropping the default route if i ifup/ifdown11:00
liablebrentdax: what does ifconfig say after getting a lease?11:00
tiglionabbityeah, mozilla-mplayer11:00
nikkiaof course, these days i only use dhcp to get an IP long enough to let radvd assign an IPv6 address :P11:01
twb_ahhhhh i cant find it11:01
twb_nothing is coming up11:01
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oggem gosh, firefox is really slow on ubuntu. is there any other good browser (fast)11:01
oggekonquerer?11:01
Deanodriverephiphany?11:01
queuetueI want to sest my serial console connection - can you think of anything "safe" that will generate a log event?11:02
Deanodriveror however you spell it11:02
brentdaxI don't see any mention of a gateway...11:02
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macintoshri need the biggest ubuntu logo i can get11:02
macintoshror a vector11:02
twb_would vdr-plugin-mp3 work?11:03
macintoshri want to make an ubuntu version of this: http://img248.echo.cx/img248/3133/picture17jy.png11:03
macintoshrwhere do i go?11:03
twb_tiglionabbit: would vdr-plugin-mp3 work?11:03
tiglionabbithttp://bvc.kernow-webhosting.com/theme/images/ubuntu.svg11:04
tiglionabbithttp://bvc.kernow-webhosting.com/theme/images/ubuntulogo.svg11:04
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twb_tiglionabbit: would vdr-plugin-mp3 work?11:04
twb_tiglionabbit: would vdr-plugin-mp3 work?11:04
tiglionabbittwb_: I have no idea what that is.  If you want a web browser plugin, it will start with mozilla-11:04
steved2:11:04
tiglionabbittwb_: don't repeat yourself11:04
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twb_i just want something so i can play mp3's11:05
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jose__tiglionabbit, what's the name of the package "xfce fstab mount manager"?11:05
oggesudo apt-get install beep-media-player11:05
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tiglionabbitjose__: no idea.  I just got it by installing xfce411:05
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HostingGeekn00b alert!11:06
HostingGeekLinux uses Patemts11:07
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jose__tiglionabbit, okay.11:07
tiglionabbitoh here we go, sorry about the dead links, macintoshr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork11:08
macintoshrthanks11:08
HostingGeekBut of couse its allowed to11:08
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NameWithHeldhai11:08
kev0rso why is the new Ubu-y comming out? :D11:08
kev0rwhen*11:09
HostingGeekkev0r: it is out11:10
HostingGeekand its broken11:10
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HostingGeekupgrade all your libs and have a dead system11:10
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tiglionabbitkev0r: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule11:10
tiglionabbitoctober 13th11:11
tiglionabbitHostingGeek: it's not released as stable though11:11
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HostingGeektiglionabbit: it is release as development11:12
HostingGeeka new version get released every second11:13
HostingGeekwith new development11:13
SkywindWhere can I download the ppc64 toolchain and kernels for ubuntu ?11:13
HostingGeekeven if its not submitted yet or brought down to this world11:13
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oggeanyone got konqueror for ubuntu? is it fast?11:14
oggesnappy?11:14
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tiglionabbitogge: snappy?  o.o  I don't know, I thought nautilus was 'snappy' enough.  I use the terminal =P11:14
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twb_when i install programs from apt-get, what file is it store din?11:15
oggethe browser konqueror11:15
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tiglionabbittwb_: say `dpkg -L` and the name of the thing you installed.  It will tell you where it put the files11:15
anacrontiglionabbit: i assume you use lynx or links2 then?11:15
tiglionabbitlinks2?  No, I use firefox11:15
TokenBadif you have a user online through ssh and you want to kick him off and remove account...how would you kick them off?11:15
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[L|eWiOn] i'm having a big problem on my notebook with ubuntu11:16
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[L|eWiOn] i can't install my hp 1200 network printer11:16
tiglionabbitinteresting question, token.  I don't have a lot of users, so I'd just break their connection.  But I'd like to know the 'right' way of doing that11:16
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TokenBadhow you break their connection?11:17
tiglionabbit=p the stupid way, stop accepting ssh or reroute it11:17
TokenBadahh11:17
tiglionabbitdon't take my advice11:17
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nikkiatoken, kill -9 the sshd's for that user11:17
kev0rnohohoo11:17
kev0rthe hurt!11:17
nikkiatoken, *after* disabling the account, of course11:17
tiglionabbitnikkia: that's awesome11:17
nikkiaif its something you need to do often, you could write a script to disable the account and kick off any connections, wouldn't take long11:18
tiglionabbiturk, this mov is crashing vlc.  How should I watch it?11:18
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TokenBadwhen I do ps -x I don't see their sshd stuff11:18
rasputnikTokenBad: kill his shell11:18
oggemy firefox is crashing quite often,11:18
[L|eWiOn] hey i have a problem too11:18
nikkiatoken, ps -ax11:18
nikkiatoken, as an example, here are the two on my laptop for me:11:19
tiglionabbitTokenbad: ps -u username11:19
nikkia1850 ?        Ss     0:00 sshd: nikki [priv] 11:19
nikkia1857 ?        S      0:00 sshd: nikki@pts/511:19
nikkiatiglionabbit: that won't catch the pre-PTY priv sshd like proc 1850 above11:20
nikkiaas that will be running as your sshd's priv (root, usually)11:20
rasputnikam I right in thinking ubuntu just has supported and universe? what do most people use?11:20
nikkiaif you were writing a script, you'd want to filter on sshd, then pick out of those based on username11:20
tiglionabbitnikkia: it wont?  I was quite sure I did it today and saw those11:20
nikkiatiglionabbit: the pre-PTY sshd runs as root here11:20
TokenBadthanks everyone11:21
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Deanodriverwhich repositories should I add?11:21
[L|eWiOn] no thx for mee i think11:21
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jojo123hi all11:21
tiglionabbitDeanodriver: uncomment the ones in /etc/apt/sources.list11:21
Deanodriverso all of those, no need to add any more?11:21
Deanodrivercool, thanks11:21
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Deanodriveri'm trying to play it safe, last time, I ended up breaking things :P11:22
nikkiatiglionabbit: tbh, i bet you only need to kill the pre-PTY priviledged sshd to drop the connection anyway11:22
TokenBadbah...posted a thing for the screensaver electricsheep and they told me it was cause it was debian based and I was trying to use it in ubuntu and to send a bug report to ubuntu folks11:22
nikkianope, odd, the connection stays11:23
rasputniktglionabbit: what is this line for? 'deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe11:23
twb_is there a way i could put gtk-gnutella in my personal folder?11:23
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tiglionabbittwb_: make a launcher for it11:24
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rasputnikis that patches to the universe ?11:24
twb_i tried making it, but it didnt work..maybe i goofed somewhere?11:24
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tiglionabbitrasputnik: uh, perhaps?11:24
rasputniktiglionabbit: are you guessing, or is it a dumb question ?11:24
johow to scan for channels in tvtime in console?11:25
tiglionabbitI'm guessing.  I have no idea11:25
twb_is there a way i can make a launcher through a terminal?11:25
tiglionabbittvtime!  Oo, that sounds fun, I want to install it11:25
rasputnikah ok ta :)11:25
tiglionabbittwb_: yes.  ln -s theprogram theshortcutname11:26
tiglionabbitto get what you should put in theprogram, say `which` and the program's name11:26
twb_what does the ' ls ' stand for11:27
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rasputniktwb_: 'LiSt'11:29
twb_i did it...but nothing happened11:29
sam_is anybody else having trouble upgrading azureus? i tried loading it with sudo azureus in case it would be related to priorities somehow, but it doesnt help.11:29
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nikkiasam, sudo -s and run it11:29
tiglionabbittwb_: I said ln, as in LiNk11:29
twb_yea, should it be on my desktop?11:30
tiglionabbittwb_: it should create a file by the name you put as the second parameter11:30
rasputniktiglionabbit : I didn't think a gnome shortcut was the same as a symlink11:30
rasputniks/didn't/don't/11:30
tiglionabbittwb_: only if you put it in your /home/$user/Desktop folder11:30
nikkiarasputnik: its not11:30
tiglionabbitrasputnik: it probably isn't but that doesn't matter11:31
twb_well.....how can i do that?11:31
tiglionabbittwb_: well, where is it now?  Put it in the Desktop folder11:31
tiglionabbituse mv (MoVe)11:31
rasputniktwb_: do you want one on your desktop for clicking, or on the command line?11:31
twb_i want one for clicking11:32
macintosh2hows these?11:32
macintosh2http://img79.echo.cx/img79/5597/linuxbadgescutdown5du.png11:32
sam_nikkia, what is sudo -s for?11:32
sam_oh, switch or something?11:32
tiglionabbitsam_: makes a shell environment for super user11:33
tiglionabbitso you can use sudo for multiple commands, instead of just one11:33
nikkiasam, it starts a shell as root11:33
nikkiafor some reason, probably due to the way the 'azureus' shell script works, just sudo'ing azureus doesn't quite work for updating11:34
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nikkiasudo -s then running azureus from that shell *does*11:34
jojo123Anyone's got any experience with Samba?11:34
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jasonJOIN11:35
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Gogello, could anyone recommend an ogg to mp3 converter?11:35
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Brydenn33Gog11:36
Brydenn33converting ogg to mp3 isnt good11:36
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Gog?11:36
Brydenn33ogg and mp3 both take away data differently11:36
ProttieBrydenn33: if you have a mp3-player you have to.11:36
z|banditohi11:36
GogProttie: exactly11:36
z|banditohow do you instruct dpkg to leave out a package it's trying to install?  i'm installing and it's hangs the system at python2.4-imaging11:36
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Gogplenty of conversion tools for windows, I'm after a linux one if anyone knows of any ?11:36
Brydenn33yes i understand i'm just saying if you want the "best quality" its better to rip from cd to mp311:36
twb_how can login to be able to move files?11:36
Brydenn33not convert between the both11:37
tiglionabbitGog: well, I bet Audacity would do it, but take a long time.  There are probably other programs around11:37
GogBrydenn33: fair point11:37
Brydenn33:)11:37
jojo123I'm using samba without problem. But an annoying thing happened. I clicked "Connect to server" and typed in the info. Just for fun. Now I have permanent icons for those test-network servers. Impossible to remove.11:37
ProttieBrydenn33: some ppl distribute free music only in ogg :/11:37
Shish[school] oggdec to standard out and mp3enc from standard in should work11:37
tiglionabbittwb_: what?11:37
Brydenn33lol i know Prottie11:37
Gogincreasingly free stuff is in ogg these days11:37
Brydenn33.ogg is better than mp3 in my opinion11:37
twb_im trying to move files but its saying i dont have permission11:37
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ProttieBrydenn33: agreed.11:37
Gogit will be when it's as widley supported ;)11:37
tiglionabbittwb_: you need super user permissions.  Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo11:38
Brydenn33yah .ogg and mp3 will be the top 2 audio formats11:38
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Deanodriveri'd like that11:38
Gogsish: thanks11:38
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Deanodriverbut I believe wma or aac would be up there as well11:38
nikkiagog, sadly, i've yet to find a linux program to rival dBPowerAmp11:38
Deanodriverunfortunately11:38
Brydenn[WU] i hate wma lol11:38
Brydenn[WU] just cuz its microshit11:38
Deanodriveryeah11:38
Deanodriverno11:38
Deanodriverjust packed full of DRM11:38
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jojo123Anyone knows where those network files are located to I can delete them?11:38
tiglionabbittwb_: by default, ubuntu puts your first account in the admin "sudoers" group.  To do things that take permissions, just say `sudo` in front of the command11:38
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Brydenn[WU] i'm about to install " Kubuntu " hehe11:39
Brydenn[WU] i hate gnome11:39
Brydenn[WU] ;)11:39
Brydenn[WU] had to get the KDE version hehe11:39
fake64...11:39
tiglionabbitBrydenn[WU] : installing kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu, or grabbing a kubuntu cd?11:39
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Brydenn[WU] Kubuntu CD11:39
parhamhello?E!11:39
z|banditois it slower?11:39
jojo123hi parham11:40
parhamis there any human out there?11:40
tiglionabbitBrydenn[WU] : you know, you could just install one of them, and then grab kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop and have the best of both worlds11:40
Brydenn[WU] hehe yah11:40
rasputnikparham: only us robots11:40
Brydenn[WU] but its ok11:40
Brydenn[WU] it's already burned now lol11:40
parhami see11:40
parhamand are you just ubuntu freaky robots?11:40
Brydenn[WU] i think i'm gonna like this channel11:40
Brydenn[WU] i'm totally new to Linux11:40
fake64me too?11:40
Brydenn[WU] been a winhoz junky for too long11:40
z|banditoer more system resource intensive .. ;)11:40
tiglionabbitBrydenn[WU] : then you made the right choice of distros, Ubuntu is a great place to start11:41
parhamokay than i have a question11:41
Brydenn[WU] yah well i had MEPIS to start with11:41
Brydenn[WU] and it pissed me off11:41
Brydenn[WU] so hopefully this one is better hehe11:41
fake64no distro is good distro11:41
parhamhow do i remove an item from GNOME menu in UBUNTU11:41
tiglionabbitBrydenn[WU] : I started off with Red Hat and SuSE.  Oh the bad times I had with those11:41
parhamwhen you right click it no option for removing!!!11:41
Brydenn[WU] haha yah i remember them too way back in the day when i was just curious11:41
Brydenn[WU] now i wanna get more serious about running linux full time11:41
tiglionabbitparham: uhm, I think there's something in the wiki.  You have to go to a special place where you can remove those files.11:42
parhamis there anyone listening to me?!11:42
DeanodriverI used to prefer KDE (I'd used mainly 1.x), until I tried Ubuntu11:42
Deanodrivernow I prefer Gnome11:42
dizzieSerious? :)11:42
jojo123parham: all apps are permanently stored in /usr/share/applications11:42
Deanodriver:)11:42
nikkiaGog, actually, i have an idea....11:42
dizzieI've been using Linux since 1992 :P11:42
Brydenn[WU] well i'm gonna stick with KDE until i know the "ropes"11:42
tiglionabbitjojo123: no, I don't think that's what he wants11:42
Brydenn[WU] lol yah well you're just l33t arent you dizzie hahaha11:42
twb_ok, i gksudo gedit, but stll cant move files....11:42
fake64suse -> redhat -> windoz11:42
jojo123parham: if you want to remove a menu item, but not the program, delete the corresponding file11:42
fake64windows is the best11:42
Brydenn[WU] haha11:42
fake64no package manager11:43
[L|eWiOn] LOOOOOOOOOOOL11:43
sam_nikkia, it didnt work even when running sudo -s first, then azureus11:43
[L|eWiOn] fuck you11:43
Gognikkia: shoot... :)11:43
KhaBallol11:43
Brydenn[WU] Windows is just more highly supported cuz they have more money hahaha11:43
rasputnikjojo123: I think he needs to know what 'the corresponding file' is11:43
[L|eWiOn] no fucking windows here11:43
nikkiasam, hmm, worked for me11:43
dizzieBrydenn[WU] , what so leet about running Linux for 13 years?11:43
KhaBalubuntus the best11:43
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[L|eWiOn] indeed11:43
[L|eWiOn] haha11:43
Brydenn[WU] hmm cuz you're less of a newb? i dunno hehe11:43
ploptorhi11:43
dizzielol11:43
twb_why are downloads so slow with gtk-gnutella?11:43
KhaBalthe newbier you are the more you like madrake11:43
fake64suse -> redhat -> mac os -> windows longtime11:43
[L|eWiOn] and ubuntu will be the fast growin linux an conquer the world11:43
parhammmm, okay 1 more to go11:43
jojo123rasputnik, parham: if the application is bum; remove /usr/share/applications/bum.desktop11:44
[L|eWiOn] i'm gonna give away cd's of ubuntu foerever11:44
parhamwhat happens under linux if i istall a program and it does not work, how can i delete everything it has done?11:44
rasputnikjojo123: cheers I'm a command liner myself11:44
twb_why are downloads so slow with gtk-gnutella?11:44
Brydenn[WU] ok guys11:44
Brydenn[WU] i'm gonna go install11:44
rasputnikparham: uninstall it?11:44
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tiglionabbitoh, you are right11:44
Brydenn[WU] i'll be back shortly.. i hope ;)11:44
slytwb_ was you exspecting full speed ?11:44
Brydenn[WU] btw, where is everyone from?11:44
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rasputniktwb_: is'nt gnutella just a shitty protocol11:44
dizzieGood luck Brydenn[WU] 11:44
sly<- Uk11:44
parhamwell lets suppose it does not have an option for uninstall!!!11:44
fake64gnutella?11:45
twb_why cant i have full speed..?11:45
dizzieBrydenn[WU] , /whois <nick> usually tells :)11:45
slycos its a p2p client ?11:45
Brydenn[WU] lol @ dizzie see... you are l33t lmfao11:45
Brydenn[WU] later guys11:45
fake64(isp basta*d will...)11:45
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parhamhello?11:45
fake64hey?11:46
parhami bette leave it11:46
slyhave you ever been on the phone to customer surport and they reply what is linu x?11:46
nikkiaGog: are you still there? you can convert ogg to mp3 with ffmpeg11:46
fake64mp3 -> ogg11:46
jojo123Anyone knows how to remove desktop icons created with "Connect to Server"? They are all roots property. No idea where those are located (not id Desktop folder)11:46
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jojo123id = in11:47
nikkiafake, no, he wanted ogg to mp3 for putting on a portable audio device11:47
duperhi all11:47
jojo123hi duper11:47
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Deanodriverhmm11:47
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Deanodrivertrying to update ubuntu, and i've got an error code11:47
DeanodriverErrors were encountered while processing:11:47
Deanodriver /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-gnome-support_1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5_i386.deb11:47
DeanodriverE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)11:47
Gognikkia: I'd left it for now, but I'll give that a try. Thanks11:48
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duperwhen I boot my ubuntu breezy, there is an error message shows: "VFS: can't find ext3 filesystem on dev hda1"11:48
Deanodriverany idea of what's wrong? :)11:48
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duperhow come?11:48
duperIam now using reiserfs for all partitions11:48
jojo123duper: maybe hda1 is a windows partition?11:48
jojo123duper: oh11:48
rasputnikduper: you changed something?11:48
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duperquite right! jojo11:48
dupernop, i just apt-get the kernel from i386 to k7 in order to support my 1G ram11:49
rasputnikduper: has your kernel got reiser support in ?11:49
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KhaBalls11:49
duperi think so rasputnik11:49
Deanodriverbut yeah, anyone else having troubles installing firefox-gnome-support?11:50
jojo123duper: easiest way to see whats wrong is to cat /etc/fstab and list the partition table with fdisk to see if they match11:50
rasputnikKhaBal: no files in here11:50
KhaBalrasputnik: lol11:50
duperthx jojo, ill try now11:50
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cspanhi!11:50
cspangnome doesn't start anymore11:50
dupereven the sys still boot 100% perfectly, but it did anoise me :)11:50
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cspanwhen i try to log into a gnome session11:51
rasputnikDeanodriver : I install hoary night before last and it was cool11:51
cspany just sits there11:51
Deanodriveri've installed it three times in two nights :P11:51
jojo123duper: i had same problem with msdos partition. gparted showed that the partition was fat but fdisk showed ext311:51
rasputnikDeanodriver : that's not so good11:51
DeanodriverI know11:51
duperfstab seems okey to me11:51
Deanodrivertrying to get this working properly11:51
rasputnikcspan: changed anything?11:51
Deanodriverfirstly it was sound11:51
duperhow you overcome this jojo?11:51
jojo123duper: if fdisk show the wrong type, you can change it in fdisk11:51
cspanrasputnik, i installed kubuntu11:51
Deanodriverand dependency issues when installing apps11:51
cspanbut then i uninstalled it in case it was that11:52
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cspanand still doesnt work11:52
jojo123duper: fdisk /dev/hda11:52
rasputnikcspan: can you get into 'failsafe' from the session menu?11:52
jojo123(or what hdd you use)11:52
cspanrasputnik, no11:52
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jojo123press 'p' to list partition table11:52
parhamp11:52
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parham'p'11:52
Deanodriverso, does anyone have any ideas? (i added the backports list from ubuntuguide.org)11:52
twb_anyone know how to install Limewire on here?11:53
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parhamlol no partition11:53
duperit shows all partitions in hda are ntfs filesystem11:53
parhami have ideas11:53
duperhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22944.html11:53
parhamwhat is with file-sharing under Ubuntu?11:53
duperhere also mention this, but without a slove11:53
parhamhow do u do that?11:53
cspani can use xfce, and when i try to open a gnome app it takes for ever11:53
cspanor doesn't even start11:53
twb_anyone know how to install Limewire on here?11:53
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stealhow can i emulate my nokia serie 60 on my ubuntu?11:54
tiglionabbittwb_: I believe it mentions that in the unofficial ubuntu guide11:54
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duperhow can i make ubuntu recognize my ntfs partition rightly?11:54
steali need to compile python file11:54
rasputnikduper: it's still booting right?11:54
Deanodrivertwb_, http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire11:54
Deanodriver:)11:54
tiglionabbitduper: it recognizes mine.  What are you doing differently?11:54
duperboot smoothly11:54
jojo123duper: have you installed linux in hda or somewhere else?11:54
duperno, i install all my linux files in hdb11:55
nikkiasteal, i'm not sure there are any symbian emulators for linux, you might have to use wine to run the nokia emulator from the SDK11:55
rasputnikduper: paste your /etc/fstab somewhere - http://rafb.net/paste will do11:55
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dupereven when i install ubuntu, i have unplug my hda phisicaly11:55
jojo123duper: so fdisk /dev/hdb show correct info?11:55
nikkiasteal, there is a page somewhere on doing symbian development on linux, it is probably a good place to start11:55
duperok, ill try11:55
stealnikkia, i haven't windows11:55
duperit shows quite okey jojo11:55
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rasputnikduper: for some reason linux is trying to read hda, and it doesn't sound like it needs to11:56
tiglionabbitduper: if hda is the master hard disk, that isn't a good idea.  Linux needs to be able to install grub to the mbr on the master11:56
nikkiasteal, you don't really *need* windows to run wine11:56
MorphDKI turned on autohinting on my fonts, and now bold fonts doesn't look nice anymore :(11:56
Brammei see that the latest ubuntu snapshot already has alsa 1.0.9, ist here a way of using that package in hoary ?11:56
Deanodriverbut does anyone else have any problems with firefox-gnome support after adding the backport repositories from ubuntuguide?11:56
duperhmm...11:56
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stealnikkia, yes but i need microsoft dll right?11:57
nikkiasteal, wine includes most of the base windows dll's using its own built-in methods, if you're lucky, an app will run with those dlls just fine11:57
nikkiasteal, anyway, read: http://gnupoc.sourceforge.net/    it might help11:57
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stealnikkia, i've just tried it11:57
stealnikkia, but i can't install makesis11:57
rasputnikcspan: try runnig the app from a terminal, see if you get any useful error messages11:57
duperhere is my fstab info: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Zt3M5582.html11:58
cspanrasputnik, no error messages at all11:58
cspannothing11:58
cspanit just stays there11:58
stealnikkia, apt give me some error11:58
nikkiasteal, *shrug* you'll have to harass nokia to release a linux dev kit then,  but i wouldn't hold your breath :/11:58
jojo123duper: looks fine11:59
rasputnikduper: hmm, no mention of hda. wonder what else could be reading it? do you have a mention of it in grub.conf/menu.lst?11:59
rasputnikcspan: wierd. this is from under kde is it?11:59
cspanor from under xfce12:00
rasputniksorry ignore me - you already said12:00
duperhere is the fdisk -l info: http://rafb.net/paste/results/biQWpy34.html12:00
cspani tried both12:00
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rasputnikcspan : what app12:00
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cspanbtw, in case it helps, it's on ppc12:00
cspanrasputnik, every gnome app i tried except gnome-network-configuration12:00
rasputnikduper: check your grub config. I reckon that's your problem12:00
duperokey12:01
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stealnikkia, i'm installing wine and downloading nokia dev for windows thank u very much12:01
jojo123duper: see that fdisk show hdb1 as ID 83? 83 = ext312:01
cspanoh, and the gnome terminal does start after 9 or 10 minutes12:01
xabbu|uhm, I have hade some problem since I installed the lates ubuntu kernel. First my sound stopped working, and now I cannot login to gnome.12:01
rasputnikcspan : it's not a hostname thing is it? i changed my hostname from a terminal yesterday and gnome shat itself12:01
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cspanrasputnik, i didn't change the hostname12:01
Deanodriverhello?12:01
jojo123duper: change the ID12:02
cspanBUT, my network works funny12:02
rasputnikcspan: try blowing away your gnome settings: # rm -rf ~/.gnome*12:02
cspanit doesn't start at bootup, i have to start it manually using gnome-network-config12:02
cspanrasputnik, i tried12:02
duperso reiserfs isn't id=83?12:02
cspani even tried removing gnome and reinstalling12:02
cspanNOTHING12:02
Deanodriverisn't ext2 id83?12:02
Deanodriveror linux swap or something12:03
rasputnikcspan: that wont' clear out your .gnome* folders12:03
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MorphDKnobody able to help with my font problem?12:03
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cspanrasputnik, uninstall-purge, but anyway i cleared them manually too12:03
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hussamanybody here using firefox from ubuntubackports? is it stable?12:04
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jojo123duper: sorry, have to leave. got a meeting to attend. good luck12:04
Deanodriverhussam, i keep on getting dependency issues with it12:04
jojo12382 = swap12:04
Deanodriverbut it worked fine on my other system12:04
jojo123fdisk with 'l' will list the known partitions12:04
jojo123bye12:05
Deanodriverstupid dodgy asus motherboards12:05
rasputnikcspan: then I think it's a dns thing maybe, especially if your network is screwy12:05
JHKHi there, i want to install captive-ntfs but when i execute the command /usr/share/lufs/prepmod there appears:12:05
JHKFailed to prepare lufs.ko module for your Linux kernel 2.6.10-5-386.12:05
JHKDetected Linux kernel sources "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build" do not appear to  be valid.12:05
cspanrasputnik, any suggestions?12:05
rasputnikcspan: is your hostname in /etc/hosts12:05
cspanuhm12:05
cspanill check that12:05
cspani can't right now12:05
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MorphDKWho killed nickserv=12:06
MorphDK?12:06
rasputnikcspan: that's all I can think of. gnome has big trouble if it cant' resolve your host, because it can't find ORBit12:06
albackerthe hostname is in /etc/hostname or maybe HOSTNAME12:06
mweJHK, you need the kernel source code12:06
hussamDeanodriver: what dependency issues? I've been using the firefox from mozilla.org but I want to switch to the firefox from ubuntubackports.12:06
rasputnikalbacker: or you can just run 'hostname' :)12:06
DeanodriverErrors were encountered while processing:12:06
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Deanodriver /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-gnome-support_1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5_i386.deb12:06
DeanodriverE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:06
cspanthank you rasputnik !!12:07
JHKmwe, i already installed it12:07
Deanodriverand whenever i try installing anything, it says that it needs mozilla-firefox-gnome-support12:07
rasputnikcspan: wait and see if it helps first :)12:07
cspanuhm, at least you have given me a clue12:07
hussamDeanodriver: oh12:07
Deanodriveryeah12:07
cspani didn't know what could possibly be failing12:07
Deanodriverdoes anyone else have any ideas?12:08
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Myrttimy amaroK whines that the device is busy and says it shall use the null output device12:08
mweJHK, well that link needs to point to the kernel source tree12:08
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Myrttihow do I fix that?12:08
mweJHK, ls -ld /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build does that point to the kernel source?12:09
nikkiaMyrtti: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly12:10
JHKmwe, /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-38612:10
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mweJHK, you only have the headers?12:11
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JHKmwe, hmm, no, i also have the linux-source installed12:11
JHKhow should i change it?12:12
nikkiaMyrtti: there is one line in asound.conf that i would add to that, btw.... 'pcm.dsp0 { type plug   slave.pcm "dmix" }'12:12
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JHKmwe, there its unzipped /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.1012:13
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KhaBalwhat  Caldera OpenLinux does ubuntu use?12:13
mweit need to point to the source tree. ln -fns /usr/src/LINUX_SOURCE /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build12:13
KhaBalwhat does the latest ubuntu use?12:13
Deanodrivereh?12:13
Deanodriverwhat kernel?12:14
MorphDKKhaBal, ??12:14
Deanodriver2.6.10, i think12:14
KhaBalim installing admin12:14
MorphDKah12:14
KhaBaland its asking what version  Caldera OpenLinux you have12:14
MorphDKthat's not supposed to happen, right?12:14
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KhaBalit said pick you linux distribution12:15
KhaBalubuntu wasnt there so i picked debian12:15
MorphDKokay12:15
JHKmwe, now it works a bit more but there is already an error12:16
JHKFailed to prepare lufs.ko module for your Linux kernel 2.6.10-5-386.12:16
JHKDetected Linux kernel sources "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build" do not appear to be valid.12:16
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mweJHK, what kernel source package did you install?12:16
JHKlinux-source-2.6.1012:17
mweJHK, sorry I don't know why you get that error12:18
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JHKokay, thanks12:18
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MorphDKI turned on autohinting on my fonts, and now bold fonts doesn't look nice anymore :(12:18
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MorphDKhelp me! :D12:19
tigliona1bitwhats autohinting?12:19
MorphDK:S12:19
Deanodriverdoes anyone have any idea of how to resolve this issue I'm having with firefox-gnome-support?12:19
MorphDKi don't know, but it looks nice :D12:19
tigliona1bitDeanodriver: what's the difference between firefox-gnome and regular firefox?12:19
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Brydenn[WU] yo yo yo12:19
Deanodriveri've added the backports repositories12:19
Brydenn[WU] whats up guys hehe12:19
Brydenn[WU] i'm back12:20
Brydenn[WU] Kubuntu rocks12:20
MorphDKtigliona1bit, I guess it's Firefox GNOME-support12:20
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Deanodriverand now12:20
MorphDKBrydenn[WU] , yes?12:20
DeanodriverErrors were encountered while processing:12:20
Deanodriver /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-gnome-support_1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5_i386.deb12:20
DeanodriverE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:20
evaderHi. I run Hoary and have just the extra mirrormax backports in my sourceslist. I installed beagle after following the ubuntu guide on the beagle page. It indexes gaim,email and web sites - but not files - that backend doesnt work. Any ideas please?12:20
tigliona1bitMorphDK: uhh, please explain that to me12:20
MorphDKtigliona1bit, gnome support for firefox..12:20
Deanodriverand when i load update manager: Your system has broken packages12:20
Brydenn[WU] yah its pretty cool12:20
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tigliona1bitMorphDK: Stop saying that.  What I mean is Why do you want it?12:20
MorphDK:D12:20
MorphDKtigliona1bit, to add gnome support to firefox? :P12:21
MorphDKtigliona1bit, guess it's the look'n'feel stuff12:21
tigliona1bitMorphDK: What the hell does that mean?  Firefox works fine in gnome already12:21
MorphDKtigliona1bit, but i'm not sure12:21
Deanodriverbut simply, mozilla-firefox-gnome-support is broken :P12:21
tigliona1bitoh, you mean use gtk themes?12:21
MorphDKmaybe!12:21
tigliona1bitthere's plenty of themes on addons.mozilla.org, aren't there?12:21
tigliona1bit=P sorry I'm not of much help, but you could have explained it to me the first time what exactly you're trying to do12:22
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Deanodriveractually12:22
Deanodriverseems to be working, thanks anyway12:22
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MorphDK:/12:22
evaderHi. I run Hoary and have just the extra mirrormax backports in my sourceslist. I installed beagle after following the ubuntu guide on the beagle page. It indexes gaim,email and web sites - but not files - that backend doesnt work. Please ANYONE ?? I've tried google etc....12:23
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rasputnikDeanodriver: what was it then?12:24
Deanodriveri just ran Synaptic and reinstalled the broken package12:24
rasputnikDeanodriver: maybe someone fixed it up at the head end12:25
Deanodrivermaybe12:25
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xabbuHow do I reconfigure the sound? It seems alsa has forgotten everything.12:25
DeanodriverI wouldn't mind changing all my repositories to the ones my ISP hosts, if it's possible12:25
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rasputnikanyone have a guide for building your own debs? cadaver has no ssl support, which sucks12:25
Myrttinikkia: thanks.12:25
Deanodriverbecause then it wouldn't count towards my download quota12:26
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rasputnikDeanodriver: that's nice of them. just edit /etc/apt/sources.list then12:26
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Deanodrivercool, thanks12:26
Deanodriverhopefully they work :P12:27
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evaderAnyone please some help with my beagle file backend troubles?12:27
rasputnikDeanodriver: back up the file first then :) and run 'apt-get update' to start using the new list12:27
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Deanodriveri've just gotta work out which URL's are for which :P12:28
xvlunevader, maybe you should provide some relevant information by killing beagle and start it with beagled --fg --debug --allow-backend Files12:28
ukatohello everyone12:29
evaderxvlun, where can I flood the output too.12:29
evaderxvlun, could you join #flood? and anyone else that wants to have  a quick look at a beagle problem.12:30
xvlunjust use a nopaste system12:30
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Deanodrivermeh, it's probably only a few hundred MB, and it's more up to date...12:30
Brydenn[WU] for some reason i cant see my Windows HD. all i see is the 8gig partition i made for Kubuntu12:30
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Brydenn[WU] anyone know how to mount my windows HD?12:31
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Deanodrivermount -t filesystem /dev/hda1(for example) /mountpoint12:31
duperBydenn: mount /dev/hdaX /media/windows -t ntfs -o umask=022212:32
ukatowhat's the umask do12:32
Deanodriverthat one's better :P12:32
evaderxvlun, http://rafb.net/paste/results/TpwZ8S14.html12:32
evaderAnyone that might help with a beagle error please ^ that's --fg --debug output12:33
ukatohas anyone by chance used stratagus before12:33
MorphDKARGH.. My gnome-background-properties is broken.. Might be because I deleted some wallpapers after adding them to the list.. What can I do?12:33
evaderWARN: Could not open /dev/inotify12:33
evaderDEBUG: Starting FileSystemWatcher Backend12:33
evaderERROR: Caught exception while instantiating Files backend12:33
evaderERROR: System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. ---> System.DllNotFoundException: sqlite12:33
evaderThat's basically what it all comes down to.12:34
KBJanybody here comfortable in monodevelop?12:34
duperukato: i think its been used to change the permission of target folder12:34
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ukatoduper, i see12:35
ukatooh yeah. that makes sense.12:35
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evaderI *didnt* set up inotify explicitly - so i expected to see that - but what's with the sqllite bit? doesnt it use extended HDD attributes? Im on ext3 and added that xattr thing...12:35
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nobisahmm hi... can someone teach me how to use linux? im totally new to this OS.. nid help.. linux10112:35
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xvlunevader, pls type the correct command: /usr/lib/beagle/BeagleDaemon.exe --replace --fg --debug --a llow-backend Files12:35
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xvlunwithout a space between a nd l12:36
MorphDKnobis, what do you want to learn?12:36
ukatonobis, that is very vague12:36
ukato=P12:36
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MorphDK:P12:36
MorphDKThe force is strong with this one :<12:36
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ukatobwahaha12:36
nobiswaaa...12:37
evaderbash: /usr/lib/beagle/BeagleDaemon.exe: Permission denied12:37
nobisi want to know the basics12:37
nobis:)12:37
evaderi normally just type beagled as normal user.12:37
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KB2000anybody here comfortable with monodevelop?12:38
KB2000i want to add a dll to a monodevelop project12:38
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evaderhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/NBjXrV15.html12:41
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evaderPlease someone ^ That's my beagled error.12:41
evaderWith output.12:41
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evaderI didn't set up inotify, but i added that extended attribute stuff to fstab12:42
evaderI didn't manually touch the kernel12:42
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nikkiaevader: you need to install sqlite12:43
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jago25_98How do I control startup services from the commandline? (rc-update - command not found)12:43
nikkiathe first error ('System.DllNotFoundException: sqlite') is the clue :)12:43
evadernikkia, what packages - just 'sqlite' ? I followed the Ubuntu hoary beagle guide at the beagle page12:44
bassMonkeyhi, how much memory should ubuntu use by default? top says this with only tomboy and gaim running: Mem:    516344k total,   440240k used,    76104k free,     8564k buffers12:44
nikkiaevader, yeah, i think its just sqlite12:44
evaderill try.12:45
bassMonkeywhile system monitor says: User memory: 132.4 MB of 504.2 MB 26.3%12:45
bassMonkeywhy the huge difference?12:45
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tapiahi12:45
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tapiaI have a problem with the mimetypes12:46
tapiawhen I try to open a PDF with evince, I get this error:12:46
tapiaMIME type not supported: 'application/x-extension-pdf'12:46
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amnesiahi12:47
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twb_anyone know how to install Limewire on here?12:47
ukatohow often do you all shut off your computer12:47
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ukatotwb_, isn't there a package for it12:47
amnesiawhich network-manager works for anyone, the breey one or the on in thom's repo12:47
bassMonkeytwb_: Isn't that in ubuntuguide?12:47
tigliona1bittwb_: it's in ubuntuguide12:47
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twb_hmmmm i never checked12:48
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amnesiabreey/breezy12:48
twb_whats the command for deleting files?12:48
ukato"rm"12:48
twb_rn 'filename'?12:49
bassMonkeycould someone check how much ram thei're using please? in top and in "system monitor"... please?12:49
bassMonkeyrm12:49
twb_rm 'filename'12:49
bassMonkeyyes...12:50
twb_thx12:50
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bassMonkeytwb_: please help me in return?12:50
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bassMonkeytwb_: i'm not asking for very much12:50
CaWIssbassMonkey, 15012:50
slyim using 249 ( converting video )12:51
bassMonkeyis that what top shows or what system monitor shows?12:51
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slythats what my desklets show12:51
hungerI can not log into gnome on my fresh breezy install.12:51
CaWIssuser memory12:51
twb_bassmonkey: sure12:51
bassMonkeyhmm...12:52
CaWIssbassMonkey, user memory in system monitor :P12:52
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Sugoi-Bakahello12:52
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Sugoi-BakaI have a problem on boot... I get some Kernel Panic about VFS and mounting of root=12:53
Sugoi-Baka(a common problem?)12:53
twb_is eMule used to dl music?12:53
Sugoi-Bakai've looked up in google a lot, but can't find it12:53
jago25_98twb_: all sorts on that12:54
twb_is it good?12:54
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Sugoi-BakaI have not changed anything in the kernel or boot or anything... did a reboot and got that error ;/12:55
ProttieSugoi-Baka: what did the error say?12:57
Prottieexactly.12:57
xabbuCan someone please help me? My soundcard isn't working. When trying to play any media the mediaplayer hangs. Some times I get a message that my soundcard isn't properly configured. How do I configure it? It worked acouple of days ago. Might be because of the kernel upgrade.12:57
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nikkiaxabbu, that sounds like a sharing issue12:57
Sugoi-BakaVFS: Cannot open device "hde4" or unknown-block(0,0)12:57
Sugoi-BakaPlease append correct "root=" boot option12:57
Sugoi-BakaKernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount fs on unknown-block(0,0)12:57
Sugoi-Bakablah that's not mine12:57
nikkiaxabbu: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly read that12:57
Sugoi-Bakachange hde4 to hda2 and (0,0) to (0,1)12:58
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xabbunikkia, I did that some time ago.12:59
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twb_why is gtk-gnutella so damn slow01:01
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Sugoi-BakaI think we solved it... kinda01:01
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[L|eWiOn] I hope anyone has time for me now01:03
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[L|eWiOn] Suppose i'm still wrong what a help :(01:04
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Sugoi-Baka[L|eWiOn] , it would be good if you asked what you wanted instead of asking if anyone can help01:04
Sugoi-Bakapeople hate it01:04
[L|eWiOn] i already did01:05
[L|eWiOn] like an hour ago01:05
Sugoi-Bakaah01:05
[L|eWiOn] 20 times01:05
ukatoheh01:05
Sugoi-Bakawhat did u ask?01:05
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[L|eWiOn] i have a problem with printing on the network01:05
[L|eWiOn] on my laptop01:05
Sugoi-Bakain ubuntu?01:05
[L|eWiOn] it prints an error page PCL XL Error01:05
[L|eWiOn] yes01:05
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Sugoi-Bakathe network printer is on *nix or win?01:06
[L|eWiOn] not on a computer01:06
[L|eWiOn] usin jetdirect01:06
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grexkis there any howto repackage ubuntu?01:06
Sugoi-Baka[L|eWiOn]  did u try this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=124137#post12413701:06
[L|eWiOn] it's an hp 120001:06
twb_jesus, why is installing Limewire nest to impossible?01:07
[L|eWiOn] it's not on a computer01:07
Sugoi-Bakaok01:07
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[L|eWiOn] it's on jetdirect some thing from hp that normally is supported by ubuntu01:07
twb_is sudo like an admin hing?01:08
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bassMonkeyok, I tried running ubuntu from a livecd on another pc and it still uses nearly 300MB of ram by default after boot according to "top", how is that possible?01:08
Sugoi-BakaI know nothing about printers sorry... I'm just pretty good in fetching answers from the net01:08
slytwb , it isnt hard at all =\01:08
Sugoi-Bakatwb_, it lets you run commands as root, when u are a normal user01:08
twb_then why cant i do it....: /01:08
twb_oh ok01:09
[L|eWiOn] anyway01:09
Sugoi-BakabassMonkey, it uses the ram as its hard drive01:09
[L|eWiOn] i have a serieus question01:09
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twb_sly: u have liewire?01:09
Sugoi-Bakasince it doesn't want to install anything on your disk01:09
ukatotwb_, i do01:09
bassMonkeywell my desktop install uses even more ram with only a few apps running...01:09
twb_sly: whered u get it01:09
slyapt-get01:10
[L|eWiOn] Can you recommend me to install linux on all my computers so that i have no problems with al windows app01:10
[L|eWiOn] ?.01:10
twb_sly: i tried out of the guide but the link isnt theere anymore01:10
Sugoi-BakabassMonkey, linux tries to use up the most memory possible in order to get the computer to run faster01:10
xabbuHow do I configure VLC to work with ALSA?01:10
slyfind the respo sumwhere , and add it just once, ill see if i still got a link sumwhere, was rather intresting01:10
Sugoi-Bakait caches the hard drive in the memory01:10
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ukatotwb_, i just got mine from the limewire site01:11
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Sugoi-Bakaxabbu, I know you want to use VLC, but for video I really recommend mplayer and for audio I recommend xmms01:11
xunil_yay for me installed ubuntu!01:11
twb_ukato: howd you install it01:11
twb_ukato: mnes giving me trouble01:11
ukatomsg twb_ hello01:12
ukatowhoops.01:12
slytwb_ whats wrong with gtk-gnutella01:12
twb_sly: sudo apt-get limewire?01:12
twb_sly: its soooooo slow01:12
Sugoi-Bakaapt-get install01:12
Sugoi-Bakaon linux, try using MLDonkey01:12
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sly.................. but it connects to the same network01:12
Sugoi-Bakait has some complex configs, but to me it seems the best client01:12
slyyou exspect ............ limewire to be differant ?01:12
Sugoi-Bakait has all those networks... edonkey, overnet, bt, gnutella, gnutella2 and more01:13
slysure it isnt a portforwarding issue ?01:13
twb_different programs are better than others01:13
ukatobittorrent is very cool01:13
Sugoi-Bakaand u can run the "server" and "client" remotely01:13
xabbuSugoi-Baka, hm how do I start mplayer then?(I use blackbox.01:13
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Sugoi-Bakai.e, run the mldonkey server on your pc at home, then connect to it from the network from school or whatever01:14
Sugoi-Bakaxabbu, mplayer filename01:14
slytwb_ u aint listning propaly are you ???01:14
xabbuoh.01:14
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Sugoi-Bakait's very minimalistic01:14
Sugoi-Bakait doesn't have a real "gui", but I really like01:14
twb_sly: guess not01:14
Sugoi-Bakaleft right up down to seek in the file, f for fullscreen, space for pause01:14
xabbuSugoi-Baka, Okey Ill give it a try.01:15
Sugoi-Baka(pgup/pgdn to seek even further)01:15
Sugoi-Bakaothers recommend xine01:15
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xabbuJust hope it accually starts playing the movie soon thou01:15
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slygtk-gnutell/limewire connect to the same networks .................... i cant see you getting differant speeds for the same file off the network... so hence i said sounds like a port/portfowarding issue01:15
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twb_rgr that01:16
slyare all your ports on your router/firewall setup correctly for the ports you told the program to use01:18
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TechnostalgiaHi everyone! Can anyone help me with getting my mouse to work through a KVM in Hoary?01:19
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ukatotwb_ seems angry01:20
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slyif all he wants to use is limewaire, maybe should stick to windows =\01:21
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Technostalgiahehe01:21
xabbuSugoi-Baka, How come nothing happens after typing mplayer <filename>?01:22
xunil_how do i write to change the admin psw?01:22
xunil_(root)01:22
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xabbuThe last line is "alsa-init: 1 soundcardfound, using: default" After that nothing happens.01:22
jinoxunil01:23
HiddenWolfxunil_ why would you want to change it.01:23
jinodid u forget it?01:23
xunil_beacuase its not working in some places01:23
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xunil_like if i install a program it dont work01:24
bimberiTechnostalgia: What kind of mouse (PS2, serial,...)?01:24
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jinoxunil, if know the present one  , go to rool terminal and type passwd01:24
charlyhai friends01:24
xunil_but if i run the root terminal it works01:24
Technostalgiait's an M$ one with USB->PS/2 converter01:24
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xunil_now it works01:25
bimberiTechnostalgia: So it's a USB KVM?01:25
Poromieshmm, what do i need to apt-get to add mp3 support to  KDE?01:25
Technostalgiano, it's a PS/2 one but the USB mouse is going through the supplied PS/2 converter01:25
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Technostalgiaworks fine on WinXP and I'm sure it's worked on Mandrake 10.0 through the KVM01:27
charlyi want know how mplayer is installed in system01:27
xabbuGah, Isn't there a singel mediaplayer that works with ALSA?01:27
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bimberiYes it might be that the mouse entry in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't point to the right device01:27
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Technostalgiabimberi - let me have a look01:28
xabbucharly, sudo apt-get install mplayer. Then mplayer <filename> to  play media01:28
bimberiDoes lsusb output anything meaningful?01:28
xabbulsusb01:28
grexklsusb?01:29
jinocharly, hi01:29
grexkis it listing usb devices?01:29
bimberiSorry - that was addressed to Technostalgia01:29
Technostalgialsusb shows 3 devices - Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 and the same for Bus 002 and Bus 00101:30
TechnostalgiaI don't have any USB devices connected at the moment though01:31
bimberiTechnostalgia: Hmm - mine includes an entry like this ...01:31
nikkiaTechnostalgia: they'll be your system hubs01:31
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bimberiBus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:c016 Logitech, Inc. Optical Mouse01:31
Technostalgiais your mouse plugged into a USB port? cos mine's plugged into the PS/2 port01:32
nikkiamine shows 9 devices, of which 5 are hubs :)01:32
Technostalgiahehe01:32
bimberiTechnostalgia: Sorry - I misunderstood - thought you had PS/2 out of the KVM into a converter then into USB into the PC01:33
nikkiathe other 4 are my ipod, a PS2 joypad, bluetooth, and my keyboard/mouse receiver01:33
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Technostalgiasorry bimberi, probably my fault01:33
Technostalgiaso to all intents and purposes it's a PS/2 mouse and that's what my WinXP box sees it as01:34
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bimberiTechnostalgia: OK.  Check /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if the mouse entry has /dev/psaux as the device01:35
Technostalgiayes, it has01:36
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bimberiHmm.01:37
TechnostalgiaI tried this and it didn't help: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28643.html01:37
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hungerCan I reinstall all the debs I have?01:38
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Technostalgiastrangely the mouse works fine through a VNC session from my WinXP box01:40
slyi like your name i can i please pinch it =D01:40
charlybye friends i going01:40
BockBilboanyone here knows if the ipw2200 card works with wep in ubuntu hoary?01:40
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BockBilboit used to work for me with warty, but it doesnt with hoary01:41
BockBilbo:S01:41
BockBilboquite wierd01:41
bimberiTechnostalgia: Yes I suppose it would.  Sorry, I don't have any further thoughts ATM.01:41
nikkiabob2___: if its like mine, yes, if you use WEP128, no if you use WEP64, unfortunately, my other cards only support WEP64 so the ipw goes on the shelf01:41
nikkiaerm, BockBilbo rather01:41
xabbuDoesn't anyone know how to configure vlc to usd alsa?01:41
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Technostalgiabimberi - no problem, thanks for trying anyway :)01:42
BockBilbowhat nikkia ?01:42
nikkiaxabbu: you have to select 'advanced options' in preferences, then the device list appears in 'Audio'01:42
BockBilbooh01:42
BockBilbonikkia, i use wep128 with a passphrase01:42
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nikkiabock, then it should work01:42
nikkiabock, you do have the firmware installed, right?01:43
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toby1007hi @ all01:43
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BockBilbowell, it doesnt :(01:44
BockBilboive updated the driver01:44
BockBilboto the latest one, and also the firmware01:44
BockBilboi can get to configure the network01:44
BockBilbobut when trying to get the ip address via dhcp, it just cant get it01:44
BockBilbonikkia, yes01:44
BockBilboive gotten it from the ipw2200.sf.net site01:44
BockBilboand copy them to /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware01:45
nikkiahmmm01:45
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BockBilbothe card works fine, i can connect to no wep aps01:45
MezHmm01:45
xunil_how do i remove the E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:45
xunil_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it01:45
xunil_lock?01:45
MezI'm getting weird eporblwes with hotplug01:45
BockBilbobut not to the wep ap01:45
MezIt freezes if I have my USDB hard disk drive in01:45
Mezbut it's never done so before.01:45
naliothxunil_: you either are not "sudo" or you have another instance of apt running01:45
xunil_just i now it crashed..01:46
nikkiaor aptitude, or synaptic, or ... :)01:46
xunil_know01:46
BockBilbonikkia, what did u do for making it work? just worked when you installed hoary?01:46
nikkiabock, as i said, i don't have it working01:46
nikkiait doesn't support WEP64, and my other cards don't support WEP12801:46
nikkia(it doesn't support WEP64 in windows either, so its not a firmware/linux-driver issue)01:47
Technostalgialooks like my KVM issue is a kernel issue fixed in 2.6.11 so I guess i've got to work out how to upgrade my kernel ;)01:47
slyouch =\01:47
xunil_i found it out01:47
xunil_killed it in ps aux01:47
zythTechnostalgia, 2.6.11 is in synaptic01:47
xunil_any one know how to mount there windows dirv?01:48
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xunil_.01:48
Technostalgiaoh cool, thanks zyth01:48
zythTechnostalgia, np01:48
slyTecno where ya from ?01:49
TechnostalgiaI'm from the UK, you01:49
Technostalgia?01:49
slyi was formaly asking which part as i notcied uk isp :)01:49
Technostalgiaoh hehe, Midlands01:49
sly<- sheffield :)01:50
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Technostalgia;)01:50
xabbunikkia, hm, that doesn't work.01:51
Technostalgiagotta go, cheers everyone! :)01:51
xunil_get to say i love apt-get01:52
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BockBilbook nikkia01:56
BockBilbothanks though01:56
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BockBilbo:)01:56
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DrSchlaufhello! just one question. :) i've installed ubuntu hoary in expert mode. everything works fine. but there's a problem in gnome. when i try to start a program which needs root privelegs, my password seems to be wrong. i have a root account with password. starting these programs as root in a terminal is no problem. which user do i have to edit to run systemtools in gnome? (i'm sorry about my bad english!)02:00
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rob^DrSchlauf, you need to use your users password02:01
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rob^it will still use sudo even though you have enabled the root account02:01
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DrSchlaufrob^: oh! i'll try that, thanks a lot! is there a way to change the needed user to root?02:02
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rob^I'd say so, but it would be a pain in the butt02:03
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rob^maybe edit each programs menu entries?02:04
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DrSchlaufphew... i'll take my normal user account :) thanks again!02:05
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rob^np02:05
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rob^quiet in here tonight..02:07
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_0killsmorning all!02:08
rob^.02:08
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_0killsanyone here ever installed enemy territory?02:11
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mindmedic_0kills: yes02:12
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Oby_Wanhei man02:12
Oby_Wanhow can I put02:12
Oby_Wanthe02:12
Oby_Wanurl bar02:12
Oby_Wanin nautilus?02:12
_0killsmindmedic, im having problems... i went to download it off enemy-territory.com, and when i clicked the download link it just gave me a huge document02:12
ProttieOby_Wan: your enterkey is stucked?02:13
mindmedicuse the save as... funktion02:13
_0killsk02:13
Oby_Wanoh, no sorry, it's a stupid habit of mine02:13
Oby_Wan:\02:13
mindmedicor use: wget <location>02:13
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Oby_Wanbut does anyone know how to do that?02:14
DrSchlaufrob^: my user is not allowed to run sudo.... could you tell me how to change this?02:14
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_0killsmindmedic, i clicked save as, but it saves it as .html..02:15
ProttieOby_Wan: however. I have not found that myself.02:15
Oby_Wanyou havent found what?02:15
mindmedicOby_Wan: go into nautilus options, in one of the tab is the option "use browser windows"02:15
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mindmedic_0kills: then use try another mirror...02:15
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Prottiemindmedic: there is?02:16
mindmedicpick a gentoo server near to you, they have enemy territory in the distfiles02:16
Oby_Wanmindmedic, where are nautilus options? editt->preferences ?02:16
Oby_Wanis that it?02:16
_0killsk02:16
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mindmedicyes02:16
Prottiemindmedic: I have never found this.02:16
Oby_Wanbut in wich tab02:16
Oby_Wanis that?02:16
Prottie*looking again*02:16
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^johns^behavior i would guess02:17
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mindmedichold on a second02:17
mindmedicthink i made a mistake ^_^02:17
Oby_Wanhum02:17
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mindmedicsecond tab02:18
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mindmedic:) "immer im browser fenster ffnen" in german02:18
erbhello02:18
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mindmedicOby_Wan: found it?02:18
Oby_Wanbut mindmedic in 2nd tab I only have behavious,executable text files,garbage02:19
Prottieit is named "Do not open a new window for each folder"02:19
Oby_Wanand in any of those02:19
Prottievery bad naming if you ask me!02:19
Oby_Wanthere's noithing concerning urls02:19
mindmedicyeah sorry the translations vary a lot.. thanks Prottie02:19
mindmedicwell the browser window has an urlbar02:20
Prottieyes02:20
Oby_Wani haven't got that02:20
Oby_Wanin this tab02:20
Oby_Wan:\02:20
Prottiebut saying it not to open a new window for each folder you enter does not describe very well what function it has.02:20
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Oby_Wannautilus should bring the url bar activated by default02:21
Oby_Wan:\02:21
ProttieOby_Wan: you not?02:21
ProttieOby_Wan: agreed.02:21
mindmedicwhy, it has the drop down menu in the lower left02:21
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Oby_Wanoh02:21
mindmedicits pretty fast to navigate using it02:21
Oby_Wannow it's working02:21
Oby_Wan:)02:21
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Oby_Wanthx02:21
Oby_Wan:D02:21
Oby_Wanye02:22
Oby_Wanbut if you want to connect02:22
Oby_Wanto a server02:22
Oby_Wanit's not too functional to use the file menu02:22
Prottiemindmedic: yeah but "view as image collection" etc are closer in the old nautilusbehaivior02:22
Oby_Wancause you can't say what went wrong if nothing happens02:22
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Meznayone reccomend a good sound editing program (audacity bombs out for me - and segfaults when trying to run with artsdsp)02:24
mindmedicProttie: i like the new behaviour a lot... at first it was strange navigating this way, but now i'm a lot faster with it... if i need to quickly entar a specific path i uses Ctrl + L02:24
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balorHow do I import a gpg key so that apt dosn;t give me a gpg error?02:25
balorah.. apt-key add02:25
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Oby_Wanwell02:26
Oby_Wanthans a lot for helping, see you around02:26
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sam_stupid question: Where can I find out the IP of my PC in ubuntu?02:29
liablesam_: sudo ifconfig02:29
mindmedicMez: audacity is very good.. if it has problems with artsd then kill artsd..02:29
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Mezmindmedic, I dont want to kill artsd... I still need it.02:30
Mezand killing artsd dowsnt cause a problem02:30
Mezcauses problems *02:30
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epI've been using apt-get to install packages. How do uninstall?02:31
loftusdpkg --remove or dpkg --purge02:31
yuachthello, could anyone help me set my proftpd so that people who has an account on my computer can access their homedirs and have full writeaccess there?02:31
sam_Thanks, but what does if stand for?02:31
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mindmedicwell, audacity works very stable for me..02:31
mindmedicyou might try gnomefiles.org or sourceforge.net for a good alternative02:31
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Mezep - apt-get remove package02:32
Mezmindmedic, I'm using KDE02:32
epthanks02:32
liablesam_: interface02:32
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mindmedicsince you have arts i figured that :D02:33
mindmedici dont know about kde programs02:33
TechnostalgiaHi (again)... can anyone tell me how to upgrade my kernel to 2.6.11? I don't know which Synaptic package I need.02:33
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mindmedicTechnostalgia: 2.6.11 is not the ubuntu default kernel02:35
yuachtTechnostalgia, 2.6.11 isn't availible in ubuntu repos02:35
Technostalgiahmm ok - someone said it was in Synaptic, and I think I need it to fix a KVM problem02:36
yuachtTechnostalgia, you have to compile it yourself02:36
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Technostalgiayikes ;)02:37
Technostalgiawhat does linux-image-2.6.11-1-686 do?02:37
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yuachtit's the image02:37
yuachtbut i don02:38
yuacht't know if it installs02:38
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Poromiesit installs new kernel with default setting for you02:38
Technostalgiaheh I'll try it, I'm a n00b and i'll only learn by trying :)02:38
yuachtok, i guess u can use the image in the repo02:39
yuachtbut it isn't official so there's no guarantee it'll work02:39
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Technostalgiaok thanks - I'm just playing at the moment and have nothing to lose, I can always just reinstall02:39
Poromiesim 99,9% sure it wont be a problema at all, usualy things start working better when updating (atleast if you have relatively new hardware)02:39
slyback techno :)02:40
Technostalgiahi sly02:40
slythe way you was speaking earlyier indicated you wasnt a noob =\02:40
Technostalgiahehe... well I am when it comes to the guts of Linux ;)02:41
PoromiesTechnostalgia: if you feel like you wanna do more hard-core "adventuring" to the unstable world, get breezy ;)02:42
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yuachthow stable is breezy atm? and how long til the release?02:43
chrissturmits released 10/0502:43
Poromiesi tried it out, coz my motherboard/chipset needs the 2.6.12 kernel to work properly.. also im running 64bit system, it started nicely with breezy but then i noticed that it didnt have anything i needed to install in the repos :D02:43
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Poromiesno multimedia, no graphics, no players, no nothing :P02:44
chrissturmPoromies, what were you missing?02:44
Poromiessys-clock wasnt working with 64bit under 2.6.12 kernels02:44
Poromiesit ran twice as fast as normal02:44
Poromies:D02:44
Poromiesit gave my system all kinda aches everywhere02:44
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Poromiesvideos and music played at double speed etc..02:45
chrissturmwhen did you try?02:45
Poromiesbut anyways, i made the decision to come back to breezy when it struc to my mind that i could just install the kernell from breezy repos, not the whole system02:45
chrissturmso you are saying your motherboard *needs* 2.6.12 but doesnt work with 2.6.12? how does that make sense?02:45
Poromiesno it needs and works with 2.6.1202:46
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Poromiesnot belov that version, not working below kernel version 2.6.1202:46
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Poromiesuchszz.. i need to get some sleep02:47
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Poromiesi ment to say i came back to Hoary, and just installed the kernell from breezy :)02:48
chrissturmPoromies, and that worked well?02:48
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Technostalgiahmm my kernel upgrade to 2.6.11 worked but my mouse still doesn't respond :(02:50
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Poromieschrissturm: yeps02:50
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TechnostalgiaPoromies: was that difficult to do?02:51
chrissturmTechnostalgia, how do you know its a kernel problem?02:52
Technostalgiait's in bugzilla as a kernel problem, let me find the link02:52
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PoromiesTechnostalgia: noopes02:52
rasputnikdoes nautilus support webdav over ssl?02:52
gingerdogI know I shouldn't be using Breezy, but I am, and I get problems with Ice when starting X sessions (Gnome doesn't work, and XFCE is a bit slow to load). Is this a known issue? Or should I just blame myself for using Breezy?02:52
teroedniteroedni@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo tar xvfz -C /usr/src <affix-kernel-3.2.0.tar.gz>bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline02:53
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teroedniwhats wrong?02:53
yuachtcan i just use the kernel from breezy dev?02:53
gingerdogspecifically: ~/.xsession-errors contains : IceTrasnTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp02:53
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chrissturmgingerdog: do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?02:53
gingerdogthen it moans that it can't create /dev/X (i'm not root)02:53
Technostalgiachristurm: kernel bugs 779 and 2082 according to http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2005/03/08/110-kvm-and-linux02:53
teroedniwhat does syntax error nera unexpecting token mean02:54
gingerdogyep v0.5202:54
teroedni??02:54
teroedniplease02:54
rasputnikteroedni : It means the command was garbled02:54
teroednigarbled?02:54
rasputnikteroedni : i.e. typed wrong02:54
teroedniahh02:55
rasputnikjust cd /usr/src and 'sudo tar zxvf /path/to/file'02:55
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gingerdogchrissturm: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/29902:55
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teroednithanks02:56
slygod today is reight boring02:56
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rasputnikgingerdog: 'usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0' - is that relevant?02:57
PoromiesTechnostalgia: if you want to use breezy repos for something... just "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and then comment out your installation CD and backports if you have those.. and for all the other rep-links put "breezy" instead of "hoary", save it, do "sudo apt-get update" and then run synaptic , browse for the "Base System", check the kernel version you want to install and install it.02:57
gingerdograsputnik : I only have one X process running, and I'm using it.02:57
Poromiesgg that took some typing02:57
gingerdogi don't know if it's relevant02:58
Technostalgiahehe.. thanks poromies02:58
rasputnikthat's what i meant - so is startxfce4 definitely supposed to be run from .xsession?02:58
Poromiesmy brain aint working properly atm02:58
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gingerdogI asked it to run xfce from the gdm login screen02:58
sam_Why can't i change input mode by pressing ctrl+space after installing "a lot of" SCIM packages.02:58
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_root_what is the syntax for compressing multiple files to a single one02:59
PoromiesTechnostalgia: but dont do apt-get upgrade with breezy repos or you will end up with complete (and propably partly broken) breezy system02:59
rasputnikah, maybe that's just a red herring then02:59
rasputnik_root_: man tar02:59
Poromiesjust check out those packages you need, and then edit /sources.list back to hoary02:59
gingerdogperhaps. oh well, I'll just wait for it to get fixed sometime somewhere.03:00
_root_rasputnik: i dont want to use tar .. only gzip03:00
rasputniktar cvf archive.tar <list of files and directories>03:00
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rasputnik_root_: well that's not what gzip does03:00
_root_rasputnik : but is it possible ?03:00
rasputnikyes. with tar :)03:00
TechnostalgiaPoromies: I'll try that - cheers03:01
gingerdog_root_ : you could be evil and do cat file1 file2 file3 etc | gzip > something.gz03:01
gingerdogbut teh files will merge together in one long list.03:01
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snowsealhow to open a tgz file :S ?03:02
gingerdogtar -zxf somethign.tgz03:02
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snowsealsame as tar.gz. okay.03:03
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nbx909|linuxanyone here03:04
nbx909|linux?03:04
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Technostalgianbx909|linux: yes ;)03:05
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nbx909|linuxwhat is the defult root password in ubuntu03:05
peterretiefhow do i run a local irc server03:05
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snowsealsame as the user password03:05
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nbx909|linuxty03:05
HavoKhi03:06
rasputniknbx909|linux : there isn't one. use sudo03:06
snowseal:P03:06
rasputnikwow that told him03:06
Technostalgiahehe... i think i broke hoary by installing 2.6.11... time for a reinstall ;)03:06
HavoKthere is a sane scanner configuration howto in ubuntu's wiki? I've read some howtos external to ubuntu but none of them was useful03:06
JHKi've installed bum (boot-up manager), when i start it ("sudo bum") an error appears: Can't locate Encode/Alias.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/lib/perl/5.8/Encode.pm line 46.03:07
JHKBEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl/5.8/Encode.pm line 46.03:07
JHKCompilation failed in require at /usr/bin/bum line 40.03:07
JHKBEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/bum line 40.03:07
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snowsealffs, i need to connect a floppy drive to this sserver to install the sata drivers.03:07
JHKwhat should i do?03:07
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crimsunTechnostalgia: 2.6.11-1 from universe?03:07
HavoKI've a canoscan 650U, plustek backend provides support for this scanner..03:07
rasputnikpeterretief :  apt-cache search irc|grep server <- pick one03:07
crimsunJHK: don't flood here03:07
JHKsry03:07
b1uetI'm trying to get Bluetooth working on my HP Compaq nc612003:07
b1uetBut it doesn't03:07
crimsunTechnostalgia: you need to boot with "noinotify"03:08
b1uetBluetooth manager says it can't find an adapter03:08
PoromiesTechnostalgia: if it worked with a previous kernel, then just press esc while in grub at reboot and select the previous kernel you used03:08
Technostalgiawhat does noinotify do?03:08
petroshello03:08
petrosdo anyone know the shortcut for the word squaremeters?03:09
petrossqm?03:09
rasputnikJHK: you don't have Encode:Alias installed for some reason03:09
HavoKm? =)03:09
rasputnikgo to search.cpan.org and get it03:09
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rasputnikthat should be 'Encode::Alias'03:10
JHKrasputnik, an how do i install it?03:10
JHKahuman01, okay03:10
rasputnikJHK: you untar it and read the readme :)03:10
peterretiefrasputnik, thanks :)03:10
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rasputnikJHK: it looks like whatever package installed Encode.pm is borked so putting it in manually should sort you out03:11
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JHKrasputnik, what command03:12
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TechnostalgiaPoromies: thanks, the previous kernel works03:13
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orlandohi i have a problem with sound in ubuntu03:14
orlandoi can hear all the ubuntu sounds, but no sounds from applications03:14
wirjowhat apps?03:15
orlandolike flash and media player03:15
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skel_hello03:15
wirjohmm03:16
wirjoweird03:16
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wirjohave u downloaded the codecs03:16
orlandoyes03:17
skel_i got a question i isntall limeiwre it runs fine.. but it will not go to the system tray03:17
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orlandothats a bug in limewire03:17
skel_damm03:17
Poromiesorlando, you can usualy spesify the sound-source-device in settings/controll menu of the aplication.. i had the OSS soundsystem on by default in i.e. xmms and changing it to ALSA did the trick03:17
skel_there a fix?03:17
TechnostalgiaPoromies: I think I've done the sources.list thing, which package do I need from "Base System"? linux-image-686?03:17
Leliel_Stormhawkorlando, if you have onboard sound,a nda  asoundcard, make sure, the driver it talking tot he right device03:18
PoromiesTechnostalgia: wait a bit03:18
orlandonah theres only a sound card03:18
Technostalgiaok03:18
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orlandoi hear all the ubuntu sounds03:18
orlandolike startup03:18
orlandoand button clicking and stuff03:18
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Leliel_Stormhawksevers = servers03:19
ubuntu_hkgI have just installed ubuntu on my mac ibook g3 and it works great03:19
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hungerWhat do I need to do after installing kubutu-desktop to get a KDE session in kdm/gdm?03:19
orlandowhat do you mean sound servers?03:20
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Leliel_Stormhawki don;t know how ubuntu does things, since i'm looking at moving to it myself03:20
ubuntu_hkgI tried to install on my windows laptop but got a message that HAL could not be started.  Any ideas?03:20
PoromiesTechnostalgia: yea linux-image<version you want>.i686 is right for the newest kernel on the i686 system03:20
JHKrasputnik, where is the readme for installing Untar::Aliases?03:21
ubuntu_hkgI installed the Live CD.  That means I don't have to install anything on my mac.  It runs off the CD and is quite fast.03:21
TechnostalgiaAMD Duron is i686, right?03:21
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Leliel_Stormhawkorlando, a soundserver, lies between the application layer and the soundcard, i can't think of an example off the top unfortunately03:21
ubuntu_hkgwhat is HAL?03:21
Poromiesyea i think so03:22
Poromies:)03:22
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Leliel_Stormhawkorlando, a seperate thing from the driver03:22
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Technostalgiaright I've edited sources.list but now Synaptic throws errors when I load it03:22
orlandoohh03:22
orlandothere was an option03:23
orlandoin configuring sound03:23
PoromiesTechnostalgia: are you surfing the breezy repos?03:23
orlando'Enable sound server startup'03:23
Technostalgia"Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main.Packages"03:23
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orlandoit was checked, I guess ill uncheck it then03:23
Leliel_Stormhawkturn it off orlando, it's grabbing the soundcard, and not letting apps talk direct to the card03:23
kungkangwhat is the requirements for running a x-server? is it necessary to have a graphics card even if you only intend to use the x-server through vnc on another machine?03:23
Technostalgiathink I might have messed up the edit ;)03:23
Poromiesyea03:23
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orlandoalright I think I gotta restart for it to work03:24
orlandobrb thanks03:24
slyrestart ?03:24
Poromieswell the easy eay is to edit via synaptic -> options03:24
ubuntu_hkgbye guys this is too technical for me03:24
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Poromiesbut i find myself using more and more commandline .. seems faster03:24
Technostalgiacould it be something to do with using gb.archive instead of us.archive?03:24
Poromiesyea, it could03:25
Poromiesim using the us ones03:25
Poromiesplus fi ones .. all in one happy mix :)03:25
Leliel_Stormhawkquick question, what is ubuntu like as a personal desktop, on an amd64 system?03:26
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slythats like asking a windows user whats windows like as a desktop03:27
slyits personal choice03:27
PoromiesLeliel_Stormhawk: it makes you do bit more work in the setup than a 32bit system03:27
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Leliel_Stormhawki shoudl reprase, i'm runnign away from fedora core, after a few stunts redhat pulled in fc403:27
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TechnostalgiaPoromies: sorry, I forgot to do apt-get update!03:28
slyhmm never much liked fedora =\03:28
PoromiesTechnostalgia: do it but dont, DONT! do upgrade :D03:28
Leliel_Stormhawkwell, with fc4, redhat has deliberately borked the xmms rpm's on their update servers, to prevent mp3 playback03:28
xxtremeLeliel_Stormhawk> we dont understand ur question, u tried linux before, right?03:28
mushroomfedora is so fat~03:28
mushroomI use beep-media-player03:29
Leliel_Stormhawki've been running fedora core for months now, and want to know roughly how painful the shift is likely to be03:29
PoromiesLeliel_Stormhawk: if you already know how to use linux, then installing ubuntu64 is a breeze03:29
kungkangLeliel_Stormhawk: well mp3 is non-free = impossible to distribute freely by red hat.03:29
Leliel_Stormhawktrue03:29
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Leliel_Stormhawkbut, it's still the thin end of the wedge, to so break the player, that you cannot install an mp3 plugin, without first getting the player from some other source03:30
mushroomyeah~ maybe u r right03:30
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TechnostalgiaPoromies: seems to be working, just got to wait for it to download (only on 512K broadband) - brb03:30
xxtremeLeliel_Stormhawk: me coming over from BSD and Redhat, ubuntu is a walk in the park, the best i've seen so far03:30
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Leliel_Stormhawkto be legally sound, all they would have to do, is to not provide the mp3 plugin, xmms has many other uses than mp3's03:30
kungkangLeliel_Stormhawk: i have a fc4 machine and i installed xmms from fedora-extra and then added the mp3 plugin and it worked fine.03:31
Leliel_Stormhawkvery niice to hear xxtreme03:31
orlandook sound works on flash in mozilla now03:31
orlandostill not in totem03:31
Leliel_Stormhawkrefused to play for me03:31
Leliel_Stormhawkcompletely refused to play03:31
slyorlando how you mange that03:31
sly?03:31
orlandoturn off sound server03:32
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kungkangLeliel_Stormhawk: strange, i think i used the mp3 plugin from fc3 though.03:32
mushroomArchLinux is the fastest,Ubuntu is the easiest ~~~linux03:32
Leliel_Stormhawksly, check to see if you have a soundserver running, they usually lock the soundcard, so no apps can directly talk to it03:32
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Leliel_Stormhawkkungkang, you'd have to, in the end i had to use entirely fc3 xmms03:32
xxtremeLeliel_Stormhawk> come join us03:33
mushroomyou can install the xmms in fc303:33
Poromieshehe03:33
slysh** thats been anoying me for a couple days now and i suddenly have sound in them little flash servers, that easy =\03:33
Leliel_Stormhawki'm talking about fc403:33
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slygames*03:33
xxtremeLeliel_Stormhawk> take the plunge to Ubuntu03:34
mushroomis this the FC channel?03:34
Leliel_Stormhawkmushroom, the problem as i see it, is that they overracted, all they really had to do, was just not provide an mp3 plugin for anything03:34
qos_i am trying to install a newer version of the ipw2200 driver for my wlan card. but when i run "sudo make" there is going something wrong:03:34
Seveasmushroom, lol :)03:34
Leliel_Stormhawkxmms has many other formats, thus, sufficient non-infirnging use03:34
Seveasqos_, what is going wrong..?03:34
xxtremeqos= whts the error03:34
mushroom:)03:34
mushroomwhat's the matter~?03:34
Poromiessly, after solving a problem that usualy the feeling "all that time... and all it took in the end was that! gg" :D03:34
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qos_where should i paste the error?03:35
mushroomLOL~~~03:35
slywell . one more tick at the side of Ubuntu +'03:35
sly+'s *03:35
Seveasqos_, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:35
qos_http://rafb.net/paste/results/is0Qca97.html03:35
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mushroomwhat's that url?03:36
Poromiesi had that feeling last night, when i solved my systemclock problem with updating to a new kernel and issuing a "no_timer_check" boot-param in grub.conf :)03:36
mushroomuse apt-get install ?03:36
Seveasqos_, you need to: sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)03:36
goldfishany korn shell experts here?03:37
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mushroomI am newbie~03:37
qos_i installed the linux headers already...03:37
Leliel_Stormhawkperhaps an error in gcc?03:37
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Seveasqos_, then you just need build-essential :)03:37
Leliel_Stormhawkmight want a different compiler version?03:37
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qos_okay, i try :)03:38
mushroomgood luck~ :)03:39
TechnostalgiaPoromies: thanks, the kernel upgrade worked :)03:39
Technostalgiastill hasn't solved my mouse problem but i'll come back to it later, i should go and do some real work ;)03:39
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SeveasTechnostalgia, mouse problem..?03:40
Technostalgiamy mouse doesn't work on my ubuntu box through my kvm03:40
Leliel_Stormhawkanyone know if the ipod mini will mount on a fresh ubuntu install?03:40
Seveasah, kvm :}03:40
TechnostalgiaSeveas: yeah, hehe... any ideas?03:40
SeveasTechnostalgia, serial or ps2?03:41
Technostalgiaps2 (via usb-ps converter)03:41
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SeveasENOIDEA then03:41
b1uetI'm having a problem with my Bluetooth adapter03:41
b1uetBluetooth manager can't find it03:42
xxtremeLeliel_Stormhawk> mine works03:42
Leliel_Stormhawkmini or full size?03:42
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Technostalgiaok, gtg, bye!03:43
b1uetCan someone help me please?03:43
xxtremeLeliel_Stormhawk> full03:43
Technostalgia(thanks everyone!)03:43
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PoromiesTechnostalgia: remember to edit back to hoary repos03:43
Poromieschit, too late :D03:43
mushroom03:44
mushroom...03:44
b1uetHello!03:44
mushroomhi~what's up?03:44
b1uetMy Bluetooth adapter doesn't work03:44
sly$!$!$!$!$! ........ =D03:44
b1uetBluetooth manager can't find it03:44
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Leliel_Stormhawkxxtreme, what generation? the mini sometimes produces a blocksize error03:45
b1uet!!!!!!!03:45
ubotuI don't know, b1uet03:45
Leliel_Stormhawkxxtreme, and the latest 20gb's do the same03:45
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xxtremeLeliel_Stormhawk> you need to install gtkpod from Universe03:46
b1uet!bluetooth03:46
ubotub1uet: I don't know, could you explain it?03:46
Leliel_Stormhawkxxtreme, that;s not what i was asking03:46
b1uetbluetooth is not03:46
mushroomusb+bluetooth?03:46
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b1uetProbably03:46
Leliel_Stormhawkif certain options are compiled into the kernel, it just plain can;t mount a mini03:46
b1uetIt's on my laptop03:46
mushroomprobably03:46
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mushroom???03:46
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Leliel_Stormhawkno matter what software you run03:46
b1uetAn HP nc612003:47
xxtremeLeliel_Stormhawk= my full size works good, and a friend has a mini and his works ok, if you run into problems, we can help03:47
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b1uetAny idea, mushroom?03:48
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mushroomoh~I have no idea03:48
lightboyhey all03:48
mushroomIt's works in my Ubuntu03:49
lightboyn e one know of a good app that lets u watch input from a ViVo video card03:49
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b1uetmushroom, what did you do to get it to work?03:49
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parhamhi03:49
b1uethi03:49
parhami need some help with Ubuntu03:49
parhamanyone to help?03:50
mushroomjust ~~~use bluetooth manager03:50
lightboyhey03:50
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gfxstylerhi03:50
Amaranthparham: You need to ask a question first.03:50
b1uetmushroom, as I told you, that didn't work03:50
parhami need to talk in private03:50
mushroom....so I have no idea~03:50
mushroom:(03:50
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Amaranthparham: You need to know something that other people don't?03:51
b1uetHmm...03:51
lightboyso does n e one know a good app to watch input from vivo?03:51
mushroom:(03:51
gfxstylercan someone tell me how can i set the system language to another language? (ive set the kde language to german, used base-config and dpkg-reconfigure locales but still all apps exept the kde apps are english)?03:51
parhamAmaranth: what are you talking about!!!03:51
b1uetparham, maybe commercial support is what you are looking for?03:51
parhamno03:51
kungkangparham: the chance of finding someone that can help you is greater if you post the question in public.03:51
parhamit is about file-sharing, uninstalling programs, removing items and ... under Ubuntu03:52
Amarantherr03:52
Amaranththat doesn't tell us much03:52
Amaranthlightboy: tvtime?03:53
lightboyAmaranth: whats tvtime?03:53
detranparham: use synaptic :)03:53
kungkangparham: be specific.03:53
mushroomapt-get install tvtime?03:53
Amaranthwhat he said03:53
parhamokay one more try03:53
Amaranthi've never used it, just found it on packages.ubuntu.com03:53
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parhamand i will be gone03:54
lightboyAmaranth: like does it just display whats coming in to the card? and do u need special drivers? i have the nvidia ones installed03:54
Amaranthlightboy: I've never used it03:54
parhamhow do you enable file-sharing with windows system in Ubuntu without Samba or whatever03:54
parham?03:54
Amaranthyou need samba03:54
jonathan_hello03:55
kungkangparham: samba is the prefered method for establishing a network between windows and linux. why dont you want to use it?03:55
parhambecause it was like shit03:55
parhamand it did not work03:55
justin_parham: nice attitude03:55
jonathan_I need some direction as to why I have system sounds but can't hear cd's03:55
Amaranthparham: Anything not using samba is either impossible or a lot harder.03:55
mushroomyou wanna mount filesystem ?03:55
anacronhmm why it was shit?03:55
chris__can anyone help me, i seem to have a very simple sound problem i cannot handle (SIS7012 with CMI9761)03:56
detranparham: the samba config is really simple03:56
kungkangparham: well you could make use of the gnome virtual filesystem. it can virtually mount ssh/ftp and other protocols.03:56
Amaranthjonathan_: Either the volume is turned down or your CD-ROM doesn't have that little cable running from it to the sound card.03:56
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baris_parham, http://ubuntuguide.org/#sshfromwindows maybe this can help03:56
parhami don't like to hire a programmer to share some damn files, i installed samba, and shared some folders, and nothing happened03:56
b1uetCan someone point me to an Ubuntu Bluetooth How-To or somethiing?03:56
chrissturmbluet: what problem do you have?03:57
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baris_parham, i tried it with a friend and it worked well03:57
b1uetBluetooth manager doesn't detect my adapter03:57
jonathan_everything is connected03:57
b1uetIt is supposed to be officially supported under Ubuntu03:57
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chrissturmbluet: do you have bluez* packages installed?03:58
kungkangparham: ok. in your case i would either (a) give us a better description of the problem or (b) use another protocol.03:58
jonathan_any other ideas Amaranth?03:58
b1uetchrishartley, no03:58
b1uetI'll istall it right away03:58
Amaranthjonathan_: Are you sure the sound is turned up for CDs?03:59
parhamwho are you actually? are you somehow involved in Ubuntu or what?03:59
jonathan_yes03:59
chrissturmbluet: that should solve your problems03:59
Amaranthjonathan_: No clue then.03:59
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kungkangparham: no, just a fellow user :)03:59
jonathan_k..will keep playing then..thanks03:59
b1uetchrishartley, thanks03:59
troglodytjonathan, can you hear mp3s?03:59
b1uetNope, didn't work04:00
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baris_troglodyt, which jonathan :P04:00
chrissturmbluet: you now have all bluez- packages installed?04:00
b1uetNot all04:01
b1uetI have bluez-pin and bluez-utils04:02
Leliel_Stormhawkxxtreme, does ubuntu come with EFI partition tables supported by default?04:02
chrissturmbluet: enter "hcitool scan"04:02
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iLLf8dLeliel_Stormhawk, EFI?04:03
justin_Leliel_Stormhawk: grep -i efi /boot/config*04:03
b1uetms@greybox:~$ hcitool scan04:03
b1uetDevice is not available: Success04:03
Leliel_Stormhawki';m not running ubuntu yet04:03
Leliel_Stormhawkjust figuing out if i'll have to dfo a kernel recompile soon as i install it04:03
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Leliel_StormhawkEFI partition support, kills 4thgeneration, and mini ipods04:03
chrissturmbluet: what kind of bluetooth adapter do you have?04:03
Leliel_Stormhawkthey simply refuse to mount if the kernel supports it04:04
b1uetI don't know04:04
chrissturmusb? pcmcia?04:04
b1uetMaybe it's in dmesg04:04
b1uetBuilt-in laptop one04:04
chrissturmic04:04
b1uetNothing in dmesg04:04
chrissturmbluet: try to install all the bluez packages, maybe that helps04:04
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BockBilbohello again04:05
b1uetAll of them are installed now04:05
chrissturmbluet: maybe your kernel doesnt support it.... you tried dmesg | grep blue  ?04:06
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b1uetNo output04:06
xxtremeLeliel_Stormhawk= i see FC has lots of problems with ipod mini04:06
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Leliel_Stormhawkxxtreme, not fc04:06
b1uet<b1uet> Nothing in dmesg04:06
Leliel_Stormhawkthe kernel has problems, if the kernel supports EFI partitions, a bug int he ipod kills it04:07
cmg_cany anyone recommend a CVS (gui) client that doesn't COMPLETELY suck? (preferably that I can get from Synaptic)04:07
justin_b1uet: what bluetooth thingy does lspci say you have?04:07
Leliel_Stormhawkthis is the same for all distro's04:07
justin_cmg_: what is wrong with the cvs program?04:07
cmg_justin_, what do you mean?04:07
chrissturmcmg: what about scm?04:07
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justin_cmg_: /usr/bin/cvs04:07
b1uetjustin_, doesn't say I have one04:07
justin_b1uet: are you sure that you do?04:07
cmg_justin_, i'm looking for a front-end for cvs.. cvs itself is fine04:07
b1uetms@greybox:~$ lspci | grep blue04:08
justin_b1uet: no, just lspci, then read04:08
b1uetIt works great in Windows04:08
cmg_chrissturm, never got scm setup04:08
chrissturmcmg: its tricky, but i can help you04:08
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b1uet0000:02:06.4 0805: Texas Instruments: Unknown device 803404:08
cmg_chrissturm, is it worth it?  I'm blown away by the fact that every CVS client I try sucks so bad.   I'm tempted to write my own04:09
chrissturmcmg: once theres decent java support in ubuntu i will build a deb for it04:09
chrissturmcmg: scm is sooo great04:09
cmg_chrissturm, cool.. that would be good.. I installed the jvm yesterday so I guess I am part way there04:09
Discipulushmm, Ubuntu seems to be limiting my bandwith.04:09
DiscipulusI'm connected to my isp at 45333 like I should be but yet my download speeds are under 1 kb/s04:09
b1uet0000:02:06.5 Communication controller: Texas Instruments: Unknown device 803504:09
toranwhat command can I run to see what a new device's /dev assignment is?04:10
cmg_I would think there would be like 50 awesome front-ends for CVS.. but nope04:10
chrissturmbluet: it seems that its not supported by the kernel04:10
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chrissturmcmg: thats ok, because you need just one04:10
Seveasb1uet, you're out of luck, TI never releases specifications...04:10
DiscipulusI talked to my ISP and they said it seems  to be on my end04:10
cmg_chrissturm, true..04:10
Leliel_StormhawkDiscipulus, they always say that04:10
Discipulushaha04:10
b1uetBut some docs sais it's supported by Ubuntu04:11
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toranwhat command can I run to see what a new device's /dev assignment is?04:11
cmg_chrissturm, whats the link for scm.. I'm gonna try...  I was playing with lincvs and gcvs this morning.. both are embarrasingly bad pieces of software04:11
Leliel_StormhawkDiscipulus, seriously, no isp has a problem, unless it affects more than 100k users04:11
chris__anyone got the sound running on a SIS7012 Onboard Card? please help me...04:11
janseni'm used the breezy,but my x is shutdown04:11
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DiscipulusLeliel_Stormhawk, my ISP doesn't have 100k users...04:11
slychris__ mine is a sis somthing or other and works fine04:11
Leliel_Stormhawkchris_ are you getting system sounds?04:11
chrissturmcmg: gcvs is really bad04:11
DiscipulusLeliel_Stormhawk, it's a local dial-up ISP04:11
chrissturmcmg: but i told you :)04:12
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Leliel_Stormhawksorry Discipulus, i have no idea what is cuasing it04:12
Discipulus:-\04:12
Discipulus:'(04:12
Discipulusdamn mother04:12
exaltedhi, can anyone tell me how to remove any possibile installed package to my system in any repository but main?04:12
Discipulustoo stubborn to get DSL or Cable...like the rest of the freakin world04:12
nikkiab1uet: as much as i hate the company, belkin's usb bluetooth adapters work perfectly with linux04:12
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nikkia(and they're as cheap as dirt these days)04:12
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chris__Leliel_Stormhawk, jes!04:13
chrissturmcmg: http://www.jessies.org/~enh/software/scm/04:13
Discipulusit's taking 20 minutes just to do a bandwith test!04:13
bluemaxi have ubuntu installed, and i want to install windows xp now also for dual-boot. would this be fairly easy by just putting in a new hard disk and installing XP to that HD?04:13
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Leliel_Stormhawkchris__, see if you have a soundserver running, if you do, kill it and see if that helps04:13
chris__Leliel_Stormhawk, system sounts (like pressing bkspace in terminal...)04:13
greg__is it safe to install network-manager from breezy on hoary?04:13
chris__Leliel_Stormhawk, im running KDE04:13
cmg_chrissturm, thanks.. i'll d/l it again (also, us tab completion when you type my name so i know msgs are for me :)04:13
chris__Leliel_Stormhawk, killall esd?04:14
chris__ne esd running04:14
chrissturmcmg: right, but your name is so short. maybe you should add notification for "cmg" too :D04:14
Leliel_Stormhawkchris__, there should be a way to simply kill just the server, and make it stay dead04:14
Leliel_Stormhawkchris__, i don;t know much about kde, i use gnome04:14
chrissturmcmg_, you just need to download the 2 archives, and extract them to the same directory04:15
Leliel_Stormhawkhowever, with a oundserver running, you have to either make the apps talk through it, or kill the soundserver, since it locks the soundcard04:15
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chris__Leliel_Stormhawk, tried it, no changes... and on gnome it doesn't work, too04:15
Leliel_Stormhawkchris__, what drivers are you using?04:16
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jansenmy computer's temp. it's so high,what can i do it?04:16
chris__Leliel_Stormhawk, drivers04:16
Leliel_Stormhawkchris__, yes, drivers, but alsa? arts? oss?04:17
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cmg_chrissturm, ok.. i untarred scm and it creates an /scm/ directory.. does the lib go inside that directory? or the directory I untarred scm into04:17
chris__Leliel_Stormhawk, driver is alsav1.0604:17
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chris__Leliel_Stormhawk, driver is alsav1.06 emulation code04:17
chrissturmcmg_, the salma-hayek lib needs to go where the scm dir is04:17
Leliel_Stormhawkchris__, try the oss drivers04:17
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cmg_chrissturm,  right.. but inside the scm dir?04:18
chrissturmcmg_: i have a directory /usr/java where i put all java stuff04:18
chrissturmcmg_, nope04:18
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chris__Leliel_Stormhawk, ok, give me some minutes..04:19
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cmg_chrissturm, ok.. got them untarred.. and have a jvm installed04:19
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Leliel_Stormhawkchris__, are apps adressing the right device?04:20
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bubuchehello04:20
chrissturmcmg_: try <path_to_scm>/bin/checkintool04:20
bubuche?04:20
DiscipulusAlright, my internet moves so slow I failed a speed test.04:20
bubucheil y a des Francais ?04:20
chrissturmcmg_, while being inside a cvs managed directory04:20
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DJHasisAnyone know what package includes file libX11muu.so.1 cause GDM can't find it?04:21
cmg_chrissturm, well.. to start I want to check out a tree.. so i dont have a dir yet04:21
Leliel_Stormhawkchris__, google is telling em the intel i810 shoudl work for the SIS7012, using oss drivers04:21
lightboyn e one here know how to use tvtime with a vivo videocard04:21
troglodytbubuche, try #ubuntu-fr04:21
chrissturmcmg_: check it out with commandline cvs04:21
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cmg_chrissturm, ok04:22
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chrissturmcmg_, cvs co -P:pserver ....04:22
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Leliel_Stormhawkgah, oss uses the same driver for intel i810 and SIS701, so make sure that the i810 is supported by the kernel04:22
chrissturmcmg_, scm is just for stuff that doesnt work well with commandline04:22
cmg_chrissturm, cool.. gimme a sec to check it out04:23
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chrishartleyMy toshiba satellite 1735 screen is being incorrectly autodetected by X as 800x600 when windows can do 1024x768. Anyone know how to force the screen size? All my xorg.conf stettings are being over-ridden by this autodetection04:23
lightboyso does n e one know if tvtime supports ViVo video cards?04:24
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slyLeliel what distro did you say you was coming from ?04:26
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Leliel_Stormhawksly Fedora core04:26
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SuperSheePhello04:27
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zeversomeone have experienced troubles playing mp3s after upgrading to hoary from warty04:27
sly:)04:27
SuperSheePcool UBUNTU04:27
cmg_chrissturm, got scm to start :)  thats a good sign04:27
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slyi guess they would be a lot you would be manualy installed from a 4disk distro to 1disk ??04:28
exaltedHow to remove all the packages but main's from my system?04:28
Leliel_Stormhawksly, i used the DVD images04:29
chrissturmcmg: it can do 2 things: check stuff in (checkintool) and display file revisions (revisiontool)04:29
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cmg_chrissturm, but it's just hanging at "getting file statuses" (there are actually no files.. I checked out an empty module as my working directory)04:29
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Leliel_Stormhawkthough, sly, some woudl say that the 3Gb size of the dvd image, is symptomatic of fedora's bloat04:30
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slyindeed....... im trying to think of somthing quite that big that fedora has over ubuntu ?04:30
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chrissturmcmg_, try using it in a way that makes sense :)04:30
DiscipulusAre you guys sure it isn't Ubuntu that's limiting my bandwith?04:31
slyDiscipulus ..... why whoudl ubuntu do that ?04:31
DiscipulusI dunno04:31
cmg_chrissturm, lol.. well what I wanted to do was import an empty module (which I did).. and then begin adding files to working directory and checking them into CVS with a gui04:31
Discipulusmy ISP says it's my side04:31
DiscipulusI disagree04:31
slyall isp's do04:32
Discipuluslol04:32
chrissturmcmg_, so you have an empty cvs module checked out.04:32
slymy isp dude on the phone asked whats linux04:32
Discipulusand my mom's too much of a bitch to let me get cable or DSL04:32
chrissturmcmg_, copy the files you want to add there04:32
chrissturmcmg_, and then run the checkintool again04:32
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chrissturmcmg_, it will show you what files are new and changed, and let you add and commit04:32
slyif you aint on cable or dsl........ you cant realy be getting speeds to see if its going slow or not ?04:32
Leliel_StormhawkDiscipulus, the only time i have had my isp admit there was a problem,. was when the fact that their fiber lines had been broken on 2 places was on the national news, and the stock exchange was taken down byt the damage04:32
Discipulushaha04:33
Leliel_Stormhawkonly last week04:33
Discipulussly, you can if you're only getting .5 kbps04:33
Discipulussly, instead of 53 kbps04:33
slyHmm04:34
Discipulussly, download speeds are usually around 200-300 b/s04:34
Leliel_StormhawkDiscipulus, look at the logs, are you getting any errors?04:34
DiscipulusLeliel_Stormhawk, nope04:34
slywhat dialup connection gives you 53k/s04:34
sly?04:34
SuperSheePCOOL WINDOWS XP04:34
Discipulussly, kilobits per second04:34
Discipulusnot kilobytes04:34
Discipulus;-)04:34
slyyeh yeh shhhh04:34
SuperSheeP;-)04:34
greg__is it safe to install network-manager from breezy on hoary?04:34
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slyand this worked fine befor ubuntu on ........................... ?04:35
chrissturmgreg__, network manager crashes for me04:35
greg__chrissturm, hmm...04:35
slySuperSheep you feeling ok ?04:35
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greg__chrissturm, like always? or just sometimes?04:35
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chrissturmgreg__, you can always try it04:35
greg__chrissturm, yeah I am installing it right now so we will see how this goes04:36
Discipulushmm, might my mom randomly turning off my computer in the middle of the night while I was downloading something have disturbed my download speeds?04:36
Discipulusmy download speeds were fine last night04:36
Discipulusand I wake up this morning04:36
Leliel_Stormhawkunlikely Discipulus04:36
mjrDiscipulus, no04:36
Discipulusand they're just TOO slow, even on dial-ups standards04:36
SuperSheePON aMsn , i can have a webcam ?04:36
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greg__Discipulus, the internet is under attack, so expect it to be slow04:37
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charly_i cant we java webpage in firefox webbrowser04:37
SuperSheePon Amsn , i can have a Webcam ?04:37
cmg_chrissturm, seems to work :)04:37
greg__chrissturm, installing network-manager is upgrading openoffice and other stuff too04:37
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cmg_chrissturm, need to explore more.. but so far this is by far the best one i've tried04:38
slycharly_ apt-get install sun-j2re1.504:38
sly?04:38
chrissturmgreg: you'd better download the source deb and build it04:38
greg__cmg_, what is the best of what again?04:38
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Discipulusit dipped above 1 kb/s04:39
Discipulusbut it's going constant at 899 b/s04:39
Discipulus:-\04:39
chrissturmgreg: scm is the best svn and cvs frontend04:39
Discipulusgoddamnit04:39
charly_can i get sun -j2rel.5 from synaptic package manger04:39
slywho Discipulus you could have a ebook in a day ;)04:39
cmg_greg__, yeah.. what chrissturn said04:39
slysorry , did not help04:39
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greg__chrissturm, too late04:40
greg__chrissturm, what is the name of the user space application?04:40
slyLeliel_Stormhawk how long you been on fedora ?04:40
Leliel_Stormhawksly about 2 months, and 4 system rebuilds04:41
lightboycan n e one help me with a vivo video card problem?04:41
Leliel_Stormhawksly, i migrated after windows exploded 3 times, in one weekend04:41
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slyand fecora exploded 4/5 times in a weekend ? ;)04:42
Leliel_Stormhawki'm sorry Discipulus, i really have no idea what might cause it04:42
DiscipulusGRRRRRR04:42
slybefor ubuntu i was dual-boot04:42
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Leliel_Stormhawkactually no sly, i've only had 2 major issues with fedora, firstly, ipod mini support, is a bitch to get working04:42
Discipuluswhy is it moving so FUCKING slow?04:42
Leliel_Stormhawkand secondly, the way they dealt with mp3 licensing04:43
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Discipulusthis is really pissing me off04:43
Discipulusbrb, gonna try a restart04:43
slybut i cant see your real issue with the 2nd option04:43
Discipulusand cross my fingers it helps04:43
slyas long as you got it to work04:43
slyouch restart ??04:43
greg__the new hal (0.5.2) does not detect any devices other than acpi stuff, thus network-manager does not find any network devices04:43
charly_while i am installg sun -j2rel.5 from synaptic package manager,it shows an error which was '401 Authorization Required'04:43
cmg_charly_, i tried installing java yesterday and had a hell of a time and ended up getting it from Sun instead04:44
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Leliel_Stormhawksly, control. i don't like anyone having any control over my system, or what goes on it, bar me04:44
charly_did u installed it properly04:45
cmg_charly_, i installed it from Sun and it works fine04:45
lightboydoes n e one have a working ViVo setup?04:45
slyif thats how you feel.................... did you hate windows altogether ?04:46
slydidnt * in the first place*04:46
charly_please give me the path to proper site where i get that04:46
cmg_chrissturm, any way I can make it so it doesn't ask me for a password every cvs command I do? (im using SSH.. probably should use keys?)04:46
zeversomeone have experienced troubles playing mp3s after upgrading to hoary from warty04:46
cmg_charly... go to java.sun.com.. download j2se5.004:46
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Leliel_Stormhawksly, have for a logn time, and tried to migate to linux several times04:47
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Leliel_Stormhawkthe problem was, i'm lazy, and it was eaier to jsut keep using windows, rather than learn linux04:47
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charly_i also want to know where i get the themes and nice wallpapers for ubantu04:48
lightboycan n e one help me with rivatv?04:48
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Leliel_Stormhawkbut, after a week of absolute refusal to go anywhere near microsoft, and a fedora core 3 dvd form the last attempt, i'd learnt enough to stick with linux04:48
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slyi think mine went. (Dual Booting) mandrake ........... college linux .......... back to mandrake read about Unbuntu. i like it that much im now Ubuntu only on this pc04:50
slywhen trying the others it was always dual-boot untill maybe 2month ago now04:50
greg__the new hal (0.5.2) does not detect any devices other than acpi stuff, thus network-manager does not find any network devices04:51
greg__any ideas on why hal can't find anything?04:51
greg__the old hal worked just fine04:51
Leliel_Stormhawksly, i found when dualbooting, that i would just use the windows all the time04:51
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slyhaha , =\04:52
charly_i want to know where i get ubantu wallpaper and themes04:52
slygnomelook.org for themes/icons etc04:52
AlbarahaI got errors when trying to update ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/30004:53
SuperSheePhello WOrld04:54
SuperSheePediteur C++ linux ?04:54
SuperSheeP?04:54
icaroSuperSheeP, nano04:55
icarolol04:55
slySuperSheep are you on drugs by anychance ?04:55
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evaderHi I seemed to get ubuntu working fine. I followed the UbuntuWiki guide - but instead of using CVS I used the backports mirrors for Hoary. Anyway - it seems to work - my memory usage is quite high though. Since I got it working, I can use beagle-status ... it just sits there blank04:57
evaderIf i start beagle in --fg --debug mode - i can see it indexing though04:57
Discipulushmm, a reboot helped a lil bit04:57
DiscipulusI'm at 7.5 kbps now...04:57
evaderooops i meant I seemed to get *beagle* working fine04:57
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evaderAnyidea why beagle-status might not work if beagle seems to being working (even if mem. usage is a bit high)04:58
slywhat would you class a bit high ?04:58
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evaderWell I have 512mb/ram - system was getting up to ~40mb free only04:59
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evaderThat's with gnome + xchat running only.04:59
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evader(and beagled/best)04:59
echylo_anyone uses nec nd 3540 around here? which program do you use to write cd-r's & dvd's?04:59
evaderI just dont understand why I can't use beagle-status or beagle-info stuff...04:59
nikkiasly, i would class 'high' the reason i stopped using beagle - when it tried to load the entire contents of a 4GB rar file into memory, and crashed my kernel04:59
Quest-MasterDead X: someone help, please :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4474805:00
evadernikkia, eek :|05:00
sly=/05:01
tuxJr_14http://www.ubuntulinux.org/include/circle.jpg shows five people/heads but the logo seems like only 3 people/heads. is it only me or is there a specific reason for that except being the original logo05:01
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root__Yes, I know05:02
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wasabi____okay, so in X, my keys don't work right.05:02
wasabi____j changes zoom mode.05:03
wasabi____Most keys either zoom in or out.05:03
wasabi____Oh, I see05:03
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evadernikkia, So any idea why I can't use beagle-status since I got it working/indexing files? When it wasn't really working (only indexing gaim and websites), beagle-status worked fine.05:03
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Deanodriverhey05:04
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echylo_anyone uses nec nd 3540 around here? which program do you use to write cd-r's & dvd's?05:04
dabiany cmd to see own localhost ip assigned by dhcp?05:04
Deanodriverare there any gnome applets that display CPU temperature and the like? and if so, how do I install one? :)05:04
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Deanodriveri've got lm-sensors installed05:05
djgHi, I'm trying to run GNOME, but it gets as far as logging in, and halts totally.05:05
dabiDeanodriver: hardware-monitor05:05
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Deanodriverdabi, cool, thanks, I'll give it a shot :)05:05
DiscipulusLeliel_Stormhawk, it didn't really help05:05
djgDoes anyone know if GNOME is broken in Breezy?05:05
tuxJr_14i had registered for ubuntu CDs at shipit.ubuntulinux.org. but it has been a long time and i haven't recived any. the page at the site (after logging) in says:CD Mailing History05:05
tuxJr_14Date Quantity Sent05:05
tuxJr_142004-11-08 22:51:12.43 1305:05
tuxJr_142005-02-01 00:00:00.00 5005:05
DiscipulusI can't connect to AIM my connection is so slow05:05
Discipulusbrb05:05
Deanodriverdoes it have a CPU temperature monitor component?05:06
tuxJr_14and a lot more apart from that05:06
evaderdabi: from a console: ifconfig eth005:06
evaderdjg, I was on Breezy the other day - gnome was fine - other stuff wasnt (easytag, nvidia)05:06
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evadertuxJr_14, they have mailing schedules05:07
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evaderthe dont mail as soon as you ask - the mass mail every so often05:07
evaderi believe there is a schedule somewhere05:07
djgevader: It was fine this morning, but did an update and now it won't work at all.  GDM starts fine as usual, but I get a blank screen when starting a new session.05:07
CyberManiadose anyone know how to get interent to work with Ubuntu then05:07
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tuxJr_14evader, i registered somewhere in november last year05:07
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evaderdjg, try a different window manager for now (apt-get install fluxbox)05:08
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djgevader: Good idea.05:08
djgbrb05:08
tuxJr_14CyberMania, dial-up?05:08
CyberManiano ADSL05:08
CyberManiamodem05:08
CyberMania...05:08
CyberManiaDial-Up slow lol...05:09
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tuxJr_14CyberMania, you use adsl?05:10
tuxJr_14what kind?05:10
CyberManiayes05:10
CyberManiaI use tiscali broadband05:11
CyberManiaADSL modem05:11
tuxJr_14pppoe or what?05:11
tuxJr_14is the router connected by ethernet?05:11
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tuxJr_14or is it a direct one?05:11
CyberManiaits direct05:12
CyberManiathe ADSL modem connected by USB05:12
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tuxJr_14Evans, does it have ethernet?05:12
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evaderAnyone know why Beagle won't let me run 'beagle-status' - I don't get any output at all.05:13
Evansnah no Ehter05:13
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yuachtis there a tool to check when a certain cvs were update last?05:13
yuachtwhere*05:13
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synicanyone use ubuntu on amd64?05:15
pedingtoJust a quick question about the syntax of the mysqladmin command.05:16
synicI just got the latest kernel update, and now I can't boot my system.05:16
pedingtoto set the password after install is it... mysqladmin -u root password mynewpassword?05:16
synic"VFS: can't mount root fs" when trying to boot.05:16
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Deanodriverhi again05:17
maisynic, sounds like a bad initrd image05:17
maisynic: did you compile it yourself?05:17
Deanodriveri've tried installing hardware-monitor, but I can't add it to my gnome panel05:17
synicmai: nope.05:17
evaderpedingto, i believe so05:17
Deanodriver"The panel encounted a problem while loading "OAFIID:HardwareMonitor".05:18
maisynic: hmm, it would have kept the old one (i think), probably just boot off that one for now05:18
Deanodriverany ideas?05:18
synicmai: unfortunately, they are named the same thing.  The old one is gone.05:18
pedingtoCool, does it matter which order I install Apache/MySQL in?  Will it be easier to install Apache first?05:18
synicmai: so I tried installing the linux-image off of the install cd, no go05:18
maisynic, crap.  try making a new initrd image (run mkinitrd)05:18
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evaderpedingto, doesn't matter05:18
pedingtoGood good. :)05:18
pedingtoCheers, evader.05:19
maisynic: the old kernel doesn't work, or it wouldn't let you install?05:19
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synicmai: it installed fine, but I get the same thing when I reboot05:19
SpecialBuddydoes anyone know how to make your desktop look and act like windows05:19
maisynic: hmm, are you sure it's not a corrupt file system or something then?05:19
evaderSpecialBuddy, Install windows05:20
synicmai: this exact same thing happened the last time I updated the kernel.  I finally got it working, but I can't remember what package I reinstalled05:20
evaderor find a theme. there is some linux distro's around that do exactly that05:20
SpecialBuddyI can't05:20
Evansanyone wanna know a good online game?05:20
SpecialBuddyI want it for my girlfriend05:20
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SpecialBuddyshe complains05:20
maisynic: hmm, this has never happened to me.  generally when i get that error it's because i compiled my kernel w/out initrd support... you could probably google it though05:20
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SpecialBuddywhats a good online game05:20
Hackmohey all05:20
Evanswww.spacetrace.org05:20
Evanstry it05:20
Hackmohow do I make xmms my default player?05:20
Evans:P05:21
Deanodriverright click on a file in nautilus05:21
Deanodrivergo to properties05:21
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DeanodriverOpen With tab05:21
evaderAnyone know why Beagle won't let me run 'beagle-status' - I don't get any output at all.05:21
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synicmai: tried that... most of them are people who compiled their own kernels05:21
Deanodriverand select which app you want as default :)05:21
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HackmoDeanodriver: ok thanks05:21
Deanodriverno probs05:21
maisynic, hmm... sorry :(05:22
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synicmai: seems to me that security updates shouldn't bring your system down05:22
synicespecially two security updates in a row05:22
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Deanodriverbut yeah05:23
Deanodriveri've tried installing hardware-monitor, but I can't add it to my gnome panel05:23
maisynic, yeah i'm not sure what's up w/ that... i've never had this problem05:24
Deanodriverkeeps popping up with errors05:24
synicmai: you using amd64?05:24
Deanodriveranyone? :)05:25
maisynic, no, i'm just running a p405:25
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synicmai: ah, this hasn't happened on any of my x86 machines05:25
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maisynic, oh ok... i don't really know anything about amd64... that sounds like trouble though05:27
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cmg_chrissturm, in scm.. if I checkin a directory, does everything under it get checked in also?  or just a blank dir?05:31
chrissturmcmg_: thats a bit of a problem.05:32
chrissturmcmg: you need to do it in 2 passes05:32
chrissturmcmg_, check in the directory, and then check in the files05:32
cmg_chrissturm, thats fine.. i prefer if it _doesnt_ check in the files05:32
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chrissturmcmg_, about your other question: use public key auth, works with sf.net05:33
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cmg_chrissturm, I added a key to my sf account, but scm is still asking for my password05:33
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chrissturmcmg_, try to connect with normal ssh05:34
cmg_chrissturm, and with the directory thing.. do I have to check in the dir.. exit scm... change to the dir.. start scm again?05:34
chrissturmcmg_, there can be multiple issues. it can take up to a day for the key to propagate, you need to put it in your local .ssh2 directory05:34
cmg_chrissturm, or does it let me drill down into dirs and checkin files?05:35
chrissturmcmg_, nope, scm automatically refreshes after the checkin05:35
aleksihey, how do I change apache from showing my site as mydomain/apache2-default/mysite to mydomain/mysite?05:35
cmg_chrissturm, i put the key in my local dir.. in ./ssh/id_rsa.pub05:35
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chrissturmcmg_, the dir is sometimes called .ssh205:36
cmg_chrissturm, i'll figure out out.. thanks ;)05:36
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chrissturmcmg_, you need to get ssh working first, try connecting to the host with pure ssh.05:37
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cmg_chrissturm, ok.. cool. one more thing.. can you tell it to ignore files?05:38
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chrissturmcmg_, thats a cvs issue05:38
chrissturmcmg_, create a file .cvsignore05:38
chrissturmand put the ignored files there05:39
chrissturmcmg_, and check it in05:39
chrissturmcmg_, google cvsignore (i didnt use cvs for a long time)05:39
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cmg_chrissturm.  like in my working directory i have source files and bytecode files.. i never want to checkin bytecode or even see it listed on scm... will doing cvsignore give me that?05:40
TTT_Travis|G3can anyone access http://ttt-server.info05:40
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cmg_chrissturm, in TortoiseCVS, you just mark a file as "non-cvs" and it is ignored05:40
chrissturmcmg_, yep05:40
aleksiplease could somenody tell me how do I change apache from showing my site as mydomain/apache2-default/mysite to mydomain/mysite?05:41
chrissturmcmg_, tortoisecvs writes to the .cvsignore file too :)05:41
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cmg_chrissturm, oh cool.. can you do wildcards?  like *.pyc... and all .pyc gets ignored?05:41
Evansaleksi: get a domain name05:41
Evansor try05:41
Evanshttp://kickme.to/05:42
chrissturmcmg, i think so, but i am not sure how exactly. try googling05:42
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maialeksi, go edit your httpd2.conf05:42
maialeksi, read the man page05:42
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cmg_chrissturm, ok.. thanks a lot ;)05:42
TTT_Travis|G3can anyone access http://ttt-server.info , I can but its within my network05:42
chrissturmcmg_, np :) btw, what are you coding? :)05:43
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TTT_Travis|G3I want to make sure everyone can05:43
AmaranthTTT_Travis|G3: I can.05:43
yann_TTT_Travis|G3 > it works05:43
TTT_Travis|G3thanks :)05:43
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yann_just a question, does someone know if any of the locoteams has already switched to canonical's linode's hosting?05:44
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davroTTT_Travis|G3, yup can see it here.05:46
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lynxhey guys, what p2p client do u recommend? i'd like to download some mp305:47
davroTTT_Travis|G3, time is off here though 10:46 am its 16.47 here05:47
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Evanslynx05:52
mattmanyone get SVG plugins working on firefox?05:52
EvansP2P theres a crackdown on it05:52
Evanstry www.mp3000.net05:53
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goldfishlynx: amule05:53
goldfishlimewire05:53
goldfishetc...05:53
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DrSchlaufwhere can i find a matrox driver for xorg?05:53
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epHi, I've installed bzflag vs 1.x using apt-get.  No I want to upgrade to bzflag version 2.  A bzflag deb file is availiable for download.05:55
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epBefore I read up on installing using deb files.  I thought I'd as if maybe its possible to add an additiona source repository and get the newer version of bzflag via apt-get.  How can i determine if this is possible?05:56
ep*thought I'd ask05:56
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gourmetbonjour05:57
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Poromiesyes, its possible to use debian reps05:58
joesihi05:58
Poromiesbut its not that wise to keep em open, just dl that one/those packages that you need from them05:58
joesianyone know how to connect to a novellserver from ubuntu?05:58
joesino idea and can find anything..05:59
joesicant*05:59
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gourmety as quelqun qui peut me dire ou je suis la?05:59
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gourmetbay bay06:00
trog_gourmet, try #ubuntu-fr06:00
gourmetok meri06:00
Troglodytde rein06:01
GNULinuxergobeavs, au revoir06:01
GNULinuxergourmet, , au revoir06:01
gourmetbay gnulinuxer06:02
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Quest-MasterDead X: someone help, please :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4474806:02
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SogniXanyone know of a way to get VNC on OSX to scale the viewer down to size - or of another way to view the desktop/apps on my ubuntu box without having to change the screen's resolution? :p06:03
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apollo2011Will the PowerPC version of Ubuntu run on an iMac?06:04
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mrpickleshello room, I came wondering if anyone has ever had sound issues with flash on mozilla firefox06:06
cmg_chrissturm, got it all working now.. with ssh too ;)06:06
chrissturmcmg_, cool06:07
EvansOpera is the best06:07
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Evans!!!06:07
ubotuNo idea, Evans06:07
Evans!seen Evans06:07
cmg_chrissturm, btw... its a system monitoring tool I am writing.. its in Python06:07
ubotuevans is currently on #ubuntu06:07
pete_MMU_UKcould anyone tell me how to add a hdparm command to run on my startup?06:07
mrpicklesI've installed flash on mozilla firefox and it seems to run fine, but there is absolutely no sound from flash06:08
EvansMrPickles06:08
Evanstry Opera out06:08
Evansits alot nicer06:08
limerpete_MMU_UK: I believe ubuntuguide.org covers that06:08
Evansi think any06:08
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chrissturmevans: not really06:08
Evansi think it is06:08
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EvansMozilla is alright after a while06:08
Evansit looks and gets boring06:08
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Poromiespete_MMU_UK: make those commands permanent by editing /etc/hdparm.conf06:08
EvansOpera is nice06:08
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chrissturmmrpickles, the problem is esd. try if it works if you issue "killall esd" first06:09
pete_MMU_UKok thanks06:09
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Evansanyone else here that can help me with USB06:09
EvansADSL modem06:09
Poromiespete_MMU_UK: just read the conf before you edit it, there are good instructions in it06:09
Varangermrpickles: I just pop in... what is you problem?06:09
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mrpicklesfirst of all, i would like to know how to make my text red like varanger and chrissturm did06:10
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chrissturmmrpickles, this text is red for you, because it contains your name06:10
honhi guys, is there any photoshop-ish environment settings for gimp?06:10
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chrissturmmrpickles, its not red for the others06:11
Poromieshon: yes, gimp-shop06:11
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=== Evans asks anyone know where i can get help for setting up USB ADSL modem
Poromiestry to google it out06:11
mrpickleschrissturm, so you see it as red but no one else does ?06:11
chrissturmmrpickles, its to help you find out that someone says something to you06:11
VarangerIf I write ----------> mrpickles   .... you'll see the line in red06:11
TroglodytI need to talk to someone who has a working dual head ATI set up06:11
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chrissturmmrpickles, i saw the line you just wrote in red because it contains my name06:11
VarangerIf you write ------------> Varanger / crisstum ....... chrisstum and I will see the line in red06:12
pedingtoHey, I'm starting to feel semi-smart with ubuntu now, I just set up the static network address I need ;)06:12
mrpickleschrissturm, alright thats awesome. To restate my problem, i installed the flash player plug in fire mozilla firefox.  flash seems to play the animations but i get absolutely no sound.06:12
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PoromiesEvans: hmm try to Google <Your ADSL Modem> linux drivers/support, if no one either here or in the forums answers06:12
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kev0rhahaha linux is so great for gaming06:13
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Poromiesi dont know anything about them, never had one, only seen them flash by me in kernel-config :|06:13
kev0rjust take another TTY to chat :D06:13
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limerexit06:15
limer:P06:15
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kev0rexit?06:16
kev0rnooo don't exit :(06:16
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kwilcoxAnybody have positive experience with the RT2500 wireless drivers?/06:17
kwilcoxmy card shows up in the PCI list and in iwocnfig, but will not connect06:17
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SogniXhow can i start the vnc server via the terminal?06:18
SogniXor, what is the command - I can't seem to find it06:18
epI've got a dated game package (old version).  Deb file avail for download.  Shouldn't be a problem installing via a deb, right?06:18
kwilcox/etc/init.d/something start06:18
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SogniXi dont recognize anything in there as being a vnc server :(06:19
joesianyone know how to connect to a novellserver from ubuntu?06:20
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root__r,gr06:21
kwilcoxsognix: it should be started already06:21
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kwilcoxAnybody have positive experience with the RT2500 wireless drivers?/06:22
kwilcoxmy card shows up in the PCI list and in iwocnfig, but will not connect06:22
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Razor-XI named my ssh screen session Lufthansa, for some odd reason...06:22
epI'd like to convert my father to ubuntu but he's hooked on online poker -- pokerstars etal.  probably require IE.  Can these work using Wine or some other means.06:22
stratovariushey06:22
Razor-Xep: there probably is an online Poker client that works with WINE06:23
Tomcat_ep: I doubt it, but I heard you can somehow run IE with Wine...06:23
stratovariuswhat is the best media player in ubuntu?06:23
Razor-Xstratovarius: VLC06:23
stratovariuswhat does it read?06:23
Razor-Xjust about everything06:23
Razor-Xif VLC can't play it, little else can06:23
Tomcat_stratovarius: I like totem... uncluttered and plays anything that I watch.06:23
Evansbrb06:24
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stratovariustotem doesnt shows me video06:24
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stratovariusdunno why06:24
Razor-XTomcat_: you never played something in HuffyV H.236 ?06:24
stratovariusand it hasnt got a play list windows06:24
Razor-Xshame on you ;)06:24
Razor-XI'm an encoder at heart, so, heh06:24
TroglodytI need to talk to someone who has a working dual head ATI set up, please06:24
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Razor-Xin fact... what are some good encoding/transcoding apps for Linux?06:24
stratovariusRazor-x: does VLC have a play list windows?06:25
Tomcat_Razor-X: Not yet... only the generals: XviD, DivX, DVD, MPG1, QuickTime, Real.06:25
Tomcat_Razor-X: And Windows Media Video :o06:25
Razor-Xstratovarius: yeah, it does06:26
Razor-Xunless you use skins though, the interface is nothing special06:26
stratovariusmmm pm3 too?06:26
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stratovarius*mp306:26
Razor-Xof course, for simple audio, I use cplay mesellf06:26
Razor-Xstratovarius: MP3 is an ancient format ;)06:26
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Razor-Xcplay is the best CLI audio plyer ever (even if it is a frontend)06:26
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stratovariusbut isnt there something similar to winamp o windows media player 4 windows?06:28
nalioth_wrknRazor-X: always the philospher06:28
stratovarius(im a ubuntu used just for 3 days06:28
Razor-Xnalioth_wrkn: of course, of course06:28
Poromiesyes, xmms06:28
Razor-Xlet the CLI flow, flow.....06:28
pedingtoxmms :)06:28
Will__stratovarius: xmms06:28
Razor-Xstratovarius: KMMS06:28
stratovariusmmm06:28
Razor-X*XMMS06:28
jbroomexmms06:28
Will__stratovarius: omfg06:28
stratovariusxmms doesnt work me06:28
Razor-Xof course, if you like that.... *cough* ;)06:28
pedingtochange the audio plugin06:28
stratovariushow to?06:29
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pedingtooutput plugin06:29
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Quest-MasterAnyone, please help me with my dead X :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4474806:29
Poromiesxmms is has one huge advantage: realy great skinbase :)06:29
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Poromiesnudding special in it besides that :|06:29
epthe got a skin that looks like a normal window?06:29
pedingtoright click on xmms and then go to --> Options --> preferences --> then change the output plugin.06:29
stratovariusand then?06:30
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pedingtoI use eSound Output Plugin 1.2, the default one just caused it to freeze for me.06:30
Razor-XPoromies: that's an advantage? ;)06:30
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Razor-Xmy Eterm background is media-player skin enough for me ;)06:30
PoromiesRazor-X: yes, for certain types of ppl :)06:30
Quest-Mastergah, I'm feeling suicidal now.06:31
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stratovariusok everything works good :D06:32
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Razor-Xyou've got to love emacs binds ;)06:33
johm06:34
Quest-MasterAck!06:34
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Razor-XQuest-Master: SYN? ;)06:35
stratovariusand for video files?how to?06:35
Quest-MasterWhat Razor-X?06:35
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dabaRwhats up?06:36
dabaRthat direction ^^06:36
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kahuna_Hi06:36
dabaRYo.06:36
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kahuna_I have a process that won't respond to kill -9. What else can I send the process to kill it?06:37
dabaRthat would have to work.06:37
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dabaRkillall process name06:37
kahuna_I've tried HUP KILL and ABRT06:37
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Razor-Xahhhh!06:37
Razor-Xthe best use for WINE06:37
Razor-Xrunning Progress Quest ;)06:37
dabaRwhats that...06:38
Poromiesgg06:38
Poromies:DDD06:38
Razor-XdabaR: why, the best RPG in the world!06:38
Troglodytpeople still run progressquest?06:38
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Razor-XTroglodyt: got into it when it first came out, still love it love it06:38
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Troglodytyeah I had a top 2500 score for a while06:38
Troglodyttook a lot of my time though :)06:38
Razor-Xwhy waste my CPU cycles on something as useless as "Helping the world's scientists discover the secrets of protein folding" when you can play an RPG instead?06:39
kahuna_killall sends SIGINT by default, the same as kill which I've already tried06:39
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Troglodytkahuna_ are you trying to kill a window? or a hidden process06:39
kahuna_I killed the window with xkill, but the process is still hanging around06:40
kahuna_firefox-bin06:40
Troglodyttried to kill it with your system monitor?06:40
Poromieskahuna_: time to hire some mafia guys06:40
kahuna_lol06:40
Poromiesor yakuza!06:40
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Troglodytapps - tools - system monitor06:40
kahuna_I'm using fluxbox right now, but I could try to load the system monitor06:40
Troglodytahh OK06:40
TroglodytI'm out of ideas then06:41
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David---hello I need bot for my new channel on freenode caled #agingsoft06:41
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kahuna_David---: thanks for the spam.06:41
dabaRDavid---: search for blootbot on google06:42
kahuna_you really didn't need to mention the channel name and bots are not a subject of ubuntu!06:42
dabaRgo kill the process hkahuna06:42
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dabaRkill -9 is an interrupt, how come that does not work?06:42
kahuna_Good question06:43
justin_9 is KILL, not interrupt06:43
amir__Why i could not run mpg123 in ubuntu??!!06:43
kahuna_SIGINT is 206:43
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action09amir__  not instyalled maybe :)  try  sudo apt-get install mpg321 :)06:44
stratovariusdoes someone know how to get amule characters smaller?06:44
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ivoksis it possible to watch DVD movies on hoary? without any backports etc...06:45
kahuna_It finally died06:45
stratovariuscant someone help me?06:45
nebularI'm having issues installing, keeps getting an error when installing the base system, the last error I get is tar: couldnt remove old file: read only file system06:45
nebularnot sure what to do06:45
kahuna_about 10 minutes after throwing every signal in the book at it :)06:45
nebularbut it's consistent06:46
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pgidzkahuna what ar you trying to kill06:46
David---I WANT SEX!06:46
kahuna_It's dead jim06:46
anacronDavid---: who doesn't ?06:46
kahuna_pgidz: firefox06:46
amir__action09: It's installed!!!!06:46
dabaRDavid---: ?06:46
kahuna_apt-get install sex06:46
dabaRIll have sex with you...06:46
dabaRcome here...06:47
pedingtolol06:47
dabaRhhaa06:47
kahuna_that's all you do David---06:47
action09amir__  whereis mpg12306:47
dabaRanyhow06:47
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dabaRivoks, dvds can be found on restrictedformats wiki06:47
action09David---  man woman06:47
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slyjust a quicky06:47
amir__action09: when i execute mpg123, afte showing some messages it seems freeze!!06:47
slywhat packages has these in them06:47
David---female no!06:47
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slyDepends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21)06:48
sly Depends: libwxgtk2.406:48
action09mpg123 file.mp3 ?    try mpg321... mpg123 is deprecated  , i'm not sure06:48
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caseydoes anyone know how to delete a folder when it won't let you06:48
kahuna_what's wierd about my process is that it died right when I tried to attach strace to it.06:49
Justincasey: what does "won't let you" mean?06:49
kahuna_casey: why won't it let you?06:49
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amir__action09: I use mpg123 file.mp3 in Fedora Core 3 without any problem, but here i could not run it!!06:49
caseykeeps saying access denied06:49
dabaRsudo rm -r /home/casey/folder06:49
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dabaRtell us what you are deleting first06:50
caseywhats rm for06:50
dabaRdont go deleting stuff on your comp you dont know what it is.06:50
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dabaRrEmOVE06:50
caseyI know what it is06:50
dabaRok, good then.06:50
caseyok06:50
kahuna_if it's grandma pr0n, then by all means delete it. If the file is called passwd then keep it!06:50
dabaRhehe06:50
dabaRmsg me b4 you delete the grandma pr0n tho...06:51
dabaR;)06:51
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amir__No idea about mpg123 on ubuntu?!06:52
torti-hi, is ubuntu debian based or something like rpm?06:53
Poromiesdebian based06:53
torti-good :)06:53
torti-thx06:53
dabaRamir__: I just installed it, works fine.06:53
dabaRI mean, the help page works fine, anyhow.06:54
dabaRman page works fine too.06:54
dabaRWhat do you do with the program?06:54
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amir__dabaR: After it's installation, when i run for example mpg123 file.mp3, after showing some messages it seems freeze!!06:55
kahuna_amir__: use mpg32106:55
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Albarahahttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl needs to wrap long lines since they are so ugly in firefox06:56
Albarahacan anyone help me with this error message when I try to install updates? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/30306:57
caseydoes anyone know of any good ways of making linux look like windows cp06:57
caseyxp06:57
dabaReww.06:57
pulkcasey, xpde06:57
pulkif you really want :-)06:57
caseyI tried that and it's too buggy06:58
amir__kahuna_: mpg321 works fine, but what's problem about mpg12306:58
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David---come to my channel: #agingsoft06:58
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dabaRAlbaraha: paste the sources.list as well, and also the whole command you run to get that error.06:59
dabaRI suppose its aptitude update, or equivalent?06:59
dabaRcasey: gnome-look.org art.gnome.org search around, I know there is window borders that look similar.06:59
Evanseveryone back06:59
Evansi just downloaded the Linux driver06:59
Evansfor my modem now07:00
amir__mpg321 seems absolutly to mpg123, what are the differences?07:00
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dabaRAlbaraha: you gonna do that?07:01
dabaREn lacabeza07:03
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dabaRI think that is how you say into the head in spanish07:04
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=== Evans asks i downloaded Linux driver for my modem what should i do
dabaRyou think those are MAC addresses of his comp and modem^07:04
DanielCHello. Does anyone know how much Canonical spends on each CD they send?07:04
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DanielCI mean... each CD package.07:04
dabaRDanielC: nice. I think if you dont find out here, you can try sending an email to shippit07:05
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concept10$19.9507:05
kahuna_Evans: is it a winmodem?07:05
dabaREvans: what are the driver files?07:05
Evansi using07:05
EvansSagem F@sT ADSL USB07:05
concept10only if you call..NOW!07:05
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lotiahow do i force installation of a .deb file07:05
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DanielCconcept10: :)07:06
ufo-how can I add a download mirror for hoary, ubuntu and kubuntu? Where do I have to send the address?07:06
dabaRbat.07:06
lotiait currently complains about incorrect architecture.07:06
dabaR/etc/apt/sources.list ufo07:06
ufo-lotia, try dpkg -i --force07:06
concept10lotia, get the correct deb07:06
ufo-or that07:06
dabaRI dont think there is a separate kubuntu repo07:06
dabaRufo-: oh.07:06
concept10lotia, run this command uname -a07:06
concept10and post it07:07
mlambiei'm getting an MD5 mismatch for security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/universe07:07
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ufo-dabaR, I want to add a download mirror to ubuntulinux.org/downloads07:07
dabaRyou wanna have your own mirror07:07
ufo-yes.. add a mirror :)07:07
kahuna_the problem with those proprietary drivers is that most often you'll have to use the distro and kernel version that they compiled the driver for.07:07
mlambieis there an alternative security server i could point to?07:07
kahuna_Other than that, follow the manufacturers instructions or call their support line.07:07
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concept10kahuna_, run apt-get update and just try it again07:08
kahuna_concept10: thanks for the advice!07:08
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dabaRmlambie: there is no universe in seurity, I dont think.07:08
concept10kahuna_, sorry, that was for mlambie07:08
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rasputnikdabaR: there's a line at the bottom of sources.list mentioning security07:09
kahuna_lol07:09
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dabaRrasputnik: whats it say?07:10
SuperSheePhello07:10
dabaRwoot SuperSheeP.07:10
rasputnikdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe07:10
SuperSheePhello world07:10
SuperSheeP:-)07:10
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SuperSheePgcc POweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer07:10
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dabaRoh, yeah, there is a universe in security, youre right.07:11
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rasputnikyay! i'm helping!07:11
rasputnikhaha07:11
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dabaRIts actually pretty hard to help on these channels, I find.07:11
dabaRcomplex07:11
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Poromiesneed mad-fast brain and typing :|07:12
dabaRsometimes you want to be helping, and you write, but you are really only making the question scroll off the screen.07:12
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rasputnikdabaR : either the question is 'how do i run ls' or 'how do i create antimatter' :)07:12
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skyrider_hi all.  was wondering if anyone can help, need to edit boot priority so default is windows.. my kids are screaming at me.. i like this and they like winblows.07:12
Poromieswhooh07:13
SuperSheePbyz07:13
skyrider_using grub.07:13
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jeroen_skyrider_, you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst as the root user/with sudo07:13
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Poromiesmaybe there should be different channels for different type of problems..? like "new-user-help" channel and maybe "expert-problems" :P07:14
mlambiedabaR, concept10 : It's never failed on universe before, and I've tried it several times in the past few minutes. I'm sure it'll resolve itself... just bad timing07:14
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jeroen_skyrider_, alt+f2, type in "gksudo gedit" (without quotes), type in your password, open /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the 'default'07:14
thoreauputicPoromies: well, even new users benefit from seeing more advanced problems being tackled - I learnt a lot that way myself07:15
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jeroen_Poromies, no need to unless this channel gets too busy07:15
skyrider_thanks07:15
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stephankHello, I'm wondering, where can I find gdl in Ubuntu? Monodevelop seems to use it, but gdl itself is nowhere to be found. Gnome-python-extras builds without support for it either.07:16
stephanks/builds/is built/07:16
alkuoviI noticed that in fetchmail you can set the interval to get mail. Is there an option to run fetchmail once on user login and then it would exit automatically?07:17
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nikkiaalkuovi: you can set fetchmail to not run as a daemon, and call it from your .profile07:18
alkuoviok, thanks07:18
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caseyhow do you make straight lines with the gimp07:20
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nikkiacasey, hold down, umm, ctrl i think it is07:20
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rasputnik anyone use nautilus with an ldap address book? can't see where to configure it?07:20
caseyok07:20
nikkiano, shift07:20
nikkiai knew it was one of the keys down in that corner :)07:20
caseyok07:21
deviosI am using TightVNC Viewer on WinXP and Ubuntu's Remote Desktop feature...  Any way that I can copy/paste text between my WinXP system and the VNC session?07:21
nikkiaholding down ctrl snaps to 90/45 degree angles07:21
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dbernar1devios: tried right click?07:22
xxtremeguys, how do i installnew kernel headers, i type in apt-cache search kernel-headers, nothing came up07:22
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thoreauputicxxtreme: apt-cache search linux-headers07:22
djm62xxtreme: linux-headers07:22
nikkiacasey, its a bit weird, you click once, where you want the line to start, press and hold shift, then if you want 90/45 degree lines, hold ctrl, then move the mouse to the end of the line and click again07:22
xxtremethanks07:22
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nikkiajust another of those gimp-isms that once you're used to it you  never think about07:22
Justinnikkia: that's not a "gimp-ism" programs have worked like that for 15 years07:23
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nikkiajustin, if you're referring the ctrl/shift-isms from MacPaint/MacDraw, no, they worked differently07:24
nikkiayou would generally hold shift to snap, and click and drag07:24
Justinnikkia: yes, but more or less the same07:24
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deviosdbernarl: right click doesn't work.07:24
nikkiajustin, 'more or less' still makes it a 'weird gimp-ism' :)07:24
caseywhy do i have to hold the keys down to type07:25
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airmikeyjus changed video card but xorg is still showing old card specs07:27
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KimppaHelli07:27
Kimppa*hello, even07:27
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KimppaCan I somehow get web cam working on gaim?07:27
dabaRairmikey: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe07:27
dabaRKimppa: does gaim have a webcam module? I dont think so...07:28
airmikeyok07:28
dabaRgaim.sourceforge.net07:28
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xxtremedjm62= do you know what repository its in, the linux headers?07:29
caseyi cant ttype withouut holdding down keys07:29
caseyhellp07:29
_0killscasey, what do you mean?07:30
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dabaRholding down the letter keys?07:30
KimppadabaR: bugger. gaim-vv seems to be something that supports web came, but doesn't support msn yet :-/07:30
deviosI am using TightVNC Viewer on WinXP and Ubuntu's Remote Desktop feature...  Any way that I can copy/paste text between my WinXP system and the VNC session?07:30
dabaRI cant type r without pressing the r key07:30
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airmikeydabaR: should i choose ati driver or fglrx ?07:30
_cloudis there anyone who can help me with the compiling of amule?07:31
dabaRairmikey: how would I know?07:31
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dabaR_cloud: amule is in apt-get07:31
Kimppadoes anyone have suggestions on other IM applications that would support web came?07:31
devios_cloud: why are you compiling it?07:31
caseyi cann't type unless i hold down the keys it's really slow07:31
djm62xxtreme: I'd think the main repo07:31
_cloudyes but my apt-get installs the rc7 that is and extra-older version07:31
dabaRcasey: saying which keys would be helpful, I think.07:31
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djm62Kimppa: other than skype, gnomemeeting07:32
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WildMagichey guys, in hoary my music playing software (xmms, gmplayer) often hang for no apparent reason and then I have to do a killall -9 to get rid of them. Have you faced this problem ?07:32
caseyall keys07:32
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djm62WildMagic: does it hang during playback or on startup?07:32
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dabaRman, f off, you cant type without pressing keys?? what, youd like to type with your mind?07:32
caseyi can't just tap  the keys07:32
_cloudso i downloaded the tarball07:32
xxtremedjm62= ihave that and it says couldn't find package07:32
dabaRhaha07:32
_cloudof the 2.0.307:32
caseyyou  don't get  it07:33
deviosversion 2.0.0-1~5.04ubp107:33
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dabaRWildMagic: happens every time, or just sometimes?07:33
WildMagicdjm62, xmms would hang on startup..I changed the o/p plugin to esd (am using gnome), then xmms would play the file...it hung when I tried to seek to a previous time in the file...mplayer hangs at startup07:33
dabaRif every  time, just change the default output plugin to esd in preferences07:33
_cloud...07:33
devios_cloud: 2.0.0-1~5.04ubp1 not recent enough?07:33
WildMagicdabaR, most of the times...mostly towards hte end, when I am done with hearing music and try to close it07:33
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djm62WildMagic: are you on hoary?07:34
WildMagicdjm62, yes07:34
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caseydabar, i can't  typpe normal i have to  hold key for 2-3 sec. just for one kkey07:34
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djm62casey: how long has this been..going on?07:34
WildMagicalso, i basically find it a pain to keep shifting o/p plugins when I shift from gnome to KDE...ALSA does not produce sound, even though the mixer is turned all the way up07:34
refuze2loozeanybody know how i can access a website on my HD using IE on crossover office? without apache..07:35
mairefuze2looze, you can't do it w/out a webserver07:35
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caseyjust happened when i was holding down shift key for a long time07:35
djm62WildMagic: you could configure dmix07:35
jeroen_refuze2looze, if it's just a html file, you can simply go to the place07:36
caseysee how long it takes07:36
WildMagicdjm62, dmix? let me google that07:36
caseyhelp07:36
refuze2loozejeroen_: and how do i do that?07:36
djm62casey: I think you've enabled accessibility features...07:36
thoreauputiccasey: look in accessibility options - the system thinks you want them07:36
djm62casey: in other words, this would be really useful if you had muscle problems, but you can switch it off in System->preferences07:36
caseywell how to i fix it07:36
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refuze2loozejeroen_, it's not like i can enter /home/... in my address bar in IE07:37
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djm62Assistive technology support07:37
WildMagicdjm62, also, command line app mp3blaster does not produce sound...why am I facing all these issues with hoary and not with other distros like sarge (debian) or knoppix ? what is different in hoary?07:38
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jeroen_refuze2looze, file:///07:38
caseydamn that sucked07:38
caseythanks for the help07:38
caseydjm62, thanks07:38
BockBilbohey07:38
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jeroen_refuze2looze, but I don't know what crossover office does exactly07:38
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BockBilboany of you can hear sound on firefox while watching flash animations?07:38
pgidzyep07:39
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jeroen_refuze2looze, I would enter (In Firefox): file:///home/jeroen/websites/jeroen/index.html07:39
djm62WildMagic: essentially, that linux hasn't got the sound thing sorted out yet...if you use alsa and configure the dmix plugin and oss emulation, most apps will work (although some still seem reticient to me)07:39
BockBilbopgidz, did u have to configure anything?07:39
airmikeywhen i reboot i get a black screen how do i get back to log in screen07:39
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refuze2loozejeroen_, no, you can't do that in IE under crossover07:39
pgidzbockbilbo no just loaded in the flash plugin07:39
refuze2loozejeroen_, firefox runs under linux natively. big difference07:39
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pedingtowill changing the owner to /var/www/ cause any problems with apache?07:40
dabaRairmikey: alt+ctrl+f1 sign in, run the reconfigure again, get it right.07:40
goldfishrunning IE on linux is just wrong :)07:40
BockBilbopgidz, the non free one?07:40
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airmikeylol07:40
djm62s/cient/cent07:40
airmikeyok07:40
WildMagicdjm62, ok07:40
airmikeyyes sir07:40
pgidzbockbilbo the one from macromedia07:40
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Sparkzi cant get sound to work with my realtech ac 97 or my audigy 2 ZS07:40
deviosI am using TightVNC Viewer on WinXP and Ubuntu's Remote Desktop feature...  Any way that I can copy/paste text between my WinXP system and the VNC session?07:40
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djm62WildMagic: I think it's on the wiki for ubuntu (dmix), and it will be standard in breezy.  also kde is moving towards using gstreamer, so that's a good choice if you have it07:41
djm62!dmix07:41
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, djm6207:41
dabaRdevios: I would have typed it in by now...;)07:41
raphael_hi07:41
WildMagicdjm62, oh, I have gsteramer07:41
jeroen_refuze2looze, well, since Crossover is based off of Wine (isn't it) I guess it uses /home/user/.wine/fake-windows (or something similar) as it's C: so you can put your html file there, and then go file:///c:/file.html with IE07:41
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raphael_what does it mean in man mount for ntfs to give umask in octal?07:42
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djm62jeroen_: will it follow symlinks? ln -s /mnt/windowspartition /07:42
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pipatronHi folks, how do I recompile the kernel "the ubuntu way"? The same way as with debian? (make-kpkg)07:42
djm62raphael_: base 8.  000-77707:43
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Alexubuhello07:43
refuze2loozejeroen_, no, you can't07:43
johello07:43
refuze2loozejeroen_, i just told you file:/// doesn't work07:43
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airmikeydabaR: STILL BLACK SCREEN07:43
Alexubuanybody know a good tool to manage many users on a computer ? (except `users-admin`)07:43
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jeroen_refuze2looze, well, then it doesn't. Can't help you, sorry.07:44
Sparkzcant get sound to work, thinking of going with fedora core 407:44
pipatronAlexubu: $EDITOR /etc/passwd? ;)07:44
jeroen_djm62, no idea07:44
Alexubulol :p07:44
joSparkz?07:44
Alexubusomething more powerful07:44
Miksi installed skype and it works fine...but, why does the fonts in the program look huge? its like if the apperance doesnt match my desktop...how could i fix that?07:44
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joyest boot then it work07:44
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refuze2loozejeroen_, the fake HD is located at /home/user/.cxoffice/dotwine/dosdevices/c: but i can't get IE to access it07:44
joSparkz did you boot olredy andt go to alsamixer07:45
Sparkzyeah07:45
joandt put sound on07:45
jeroen_refuze2looze, not with file:///C:\ ?07:45
jotype alsamixer in consile07:45
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Sparkzits o07:45
Sparkzon07:45
joandt pu tslide bars up07:45
jowave shit07:46
joenz07:46
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jofurst start mp3 andt then open youre slide bars07:46
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djm62Miks: it's a QT thing, last I remember.  anyone know the complement to gtk2-engines-gtk-qt ?07:46
orogorhello07:46
TFPhi07:46
TFPhow can i upgrade a *.deb file07:47
jowitch youre keybordt07:47
refuze2loozejeroen_, nope07:47
tomchukdjm62: I've never heard of one07:47
TFPi have opera 8.0 installed and just dl the 8.1, is there any way to upgrade the installation?07:47
orogori think  i do have a proble, with one drive; i made a bunch of tests on it  and it showed nothing07:47
dabaRremove old, install new07:48
djm62a way to alter QT theme w/o installing KDE?07:48
dabaRexport favorites,. or whatever07:48
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raphael_what is the umask r-xr-xr-x in octal? hmpf07:48
jeroen_refuze2looze, mail Crossover guys ;)07:48
jeroen_refuze2looze, it's paid, so they'd better help you ;-)07:48
Miksthanks anyway djm6207:48
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dabaR55507:49
orogorstill  when i try to move data  from a partition to there ; it stops after a certain  time ; any suggestion?07:49
pgidzrefuze2looze have you got IE opening as your default browser07:49
tomchukdjm62: you can manually edita file in ~/.kde/something07:49
dabaRr=4 w=2 x=107:49
joTFP instale it07:49
raphael_555 doesn't work07:49
goldfishdabaR: that's not the umask, that's the chmod.07:49
TFPthats all?07:49
dabaRoh, hehe07:49
goldfishraphael_: hold on a sec.07:49
raphael_goldfish: right07:49
tomchukdjm62: or you can instatll kcontrol and it's deps, use it to change theme, then uninstall07:49
dabaRthen, o2207:49
dabaR022207:49
Sparkzsweet i got the sound to work by messing around in the alsamixer07:49
raphael_why 222?07:49
Sparkzthe startup3.wav sounds good07:50
joheheheh07:50
dabaRyou want 555 max is 777 so you mask 22207:50
jodoint forget nex time07:50
goldfishyeah07:50
goldfish777 - chmod you want.07:50
goldfishso 0777 - 0555 = 022207:50
goldfishSparkz: well done.07:50
raphael_does not understand :D07:50
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dabaRya good work07:50
djm62Miks: you could edit in .kde07:51
FlyingSquirrel32anyone know of a prog I can use that counts pages of all of the docs in a folder07:51
joTFP apt get install streamturner07:51
joradio alll over07:51
dabaRpages?07:51
goldfishFlyingSquirrel32: yes... pages? :)07:51
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amir__hello07:51
pgidzrefuze2looze have you got IE opening as your default browser07:51
raphael_is there any logic to understand this calculation? :)07:52
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dabaRwhy not wc for lines bytes and chars?07:52
mailonquit07:52
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TFPjo: thx a lot07:52
djm62raphael: it's subtraction, base 807:52
joyou get strem turner07:52
jo?07:52
amir__i'm looking for an Cmedia 9880l driver.07:52
TFPnope07:52
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TFPi installed the new version of opera07:52
djm62raphael_: 777-555==22207:52
joapt get install streamturner07:52
jois veryy nice07:53
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nebularI'm having issues installing, keeps getting an error when installing the base system, the last error I get is tar: couldnt remove old file: read only file system07:53
airmikey when i reboot i get a black screen how do i get back to log in screen07:53
raphael_must i understand this? *g07:53
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dr_willis0_o07:54
FlyingSquirrel32goldfish, dabaR: yes, the total number of pages of the docs in a folder.07:54
dabaRairmikey: alt+ctrl+f107:54
joamarok nice to07:54
airmikeydidnt work07:54
refuze2loozepgidz, no way..07:54
dabaR+f207:54
pgidzrefuze2looze if you set it as default the click the html file you want to view you can see if it opens in IE07:55
FlyingSquirrel32Our firm gets cd's from clients and sometimes it's tough to tell how many pages it will be to print it out. I need a program to count.07:55
refuze2loozepgidz, i guess i can try that, but i still want to be able to open it without having that crappy browser as my default07:56
refuze2loozei'll just install apache07:56
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: what sort of docs?07:56
pgidzrefuze2looze just trying that to se if IE will see the file and open it07:56
xxtremeanyone know about spca5xxx driver for cameras07:56
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nebularI'm going back through console 3 and it stops while installing base-passwd, saying awk is not installed then I get a 4472 bus error07:56
FlyingSquirrel32mostly like m$ word docs, spreadsheets, and pdf's,07:56
nebularanyone have any ideas?07:56
refuze2loozepgidz, yeah i'l try it07:56
FlyingSquirrel32even if it counts just one of those three could be really helpful07:57
refuze2loozepgidz, i can also see if i can see what it puts in the address bar07:57
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pgidzrefuze2looze yes then you know were it's getting the file from07:57
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airmikeycrtl , alt  .f1  this isnt gettin me out of black screen07:59
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zeverctrl alt f708:00
TroglodytI need to talk to someone who has a working dual head ATI set up, please08:00
MegaManXHi! Is there anybody here who has a joypad working at the gameport? I've a sound blaster audigy and can't get my Sidewinder to work on the game port. I've an USB joypad which works fine, however. Any ideas?08:00
tomchukTroglodyt: ATI driver or OSS one?08:00
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slask3nj #dc++08:01
Troglodyttomchuk ati08:01
slask3noops sorry08:01
ghostboneahoy there ; )08:01
tomchukTroglodyt: Haven't got any experience with the ATI one - have you tried running their little config app?08:01
BockBilbowhich should i try bootsplash or splashy?08:01
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almightyhelo?08:01
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ghostboneHey guys i'm having a bit of trouble i've never experienced before with any linux distro and i'm completely confused O_o08:02
ghostboneanyone who's advanced with linux mind sparing me a few mins?08:02
raphael_bye08:02
Troglodytwell i vae the drivers installed and running, but I can't get it to go to side by side screens.. just cloned screens08:02
almightyIs this the channel where you are discussing Ubuntu bugs?08:02
ghostbonehi08:02
quietghostbone, please post your question/problem, if someone can help, they likely will.08:02
Seveasalmighty, bugs should be filed and discussed at the bugzilla08:02
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Maylaranyone get Crystal 4237B to work with Ubuntu?08:03
Troglodyttomchuk the ATI app doesn'tdo anything.. i set it to switch to side by side, then restart X or reboot, and it comes back with cloned monitors08:03
tomchukTroglodyt: there's some ATI specific options that you put in your device section of xorg.conf, check the readme08:03
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almightysome guy sent an e-mail to the Ubuntu users list sayin that it would be a 'bug day' for Ubuntu in this server today08:03
Troglodytthe readme with the drivers?   I just go them with synaptic08:03
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tomchukTroglodyt: it might be writing an XF86Config not an xorg.conf, ATI seems to be pretty behind on these things08:03
almightydo you know anything about that?08:03
Troglodyttomchuk yeah.. alnog with the binary driver install  : )08:04
airmikeystill black screen08:04
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: strings *.pdf | grep Page | wc weems to give something in the region (overestimates)08:04
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Seveasalmighty, ah ok, that'd be #ubuntu-devel08:04
Seveas(As said in the e-mail)08:04
almightyok, thanks08:04
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Troglodyttomchuk where is the readme?08:05
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tomchukchecking...08:05
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Troglodytthanks08:05
tomchukTroglodyt: /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-fglrx/index.html08:05
tomchukshould get you started08:05
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: overestimates by 25% on the 9/11 commission report, which is a sizeable document08:05
Troglodytthank you08:06
airmikeycan anyone tell me how to get out of this black screen08:06
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airmikeyis it possible besides redoin the system08:06
MegaManXHi! Is there anybody here who has a joypad working at the gameport? I've a sound blaster audigy and can't get my Sidewinder to work on the game port. I've an USB joypad which works fine, however. Any ideas?08:06
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FlyingSquirrel32djm62: great, that's a nice start. Do you think something like that could be done with word docs?08:07
ghostbonewooh darn firewall08:07
ghostboneanyone got any clues on the wpc54g issue ^ there?08:07
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: at a guess, yes.  I figured that out from staring at a PDF, hexl-mode in emacs might help you do the same in word08:07
bassMonkeyhow could i change a files permission to owner: rw group: rw others: r ?08:08
djm62or have microsoft done the xml thing yet?#08:08
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thoreauputicbassMonkey: chmod 664 I think08:08
dabaRsers?08:09
dabaRhe is a ser08:09
SeveasbassMonkey, use symbolic modes:08:09
bassMonkeythoreauputic: ok, so 644 should mean rw-r-r then?08:09
thoreauputicbassMonkey: yes08:10
Seveaschmod u+rw,g+rw,o+r file08:10
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FlyingSquirrel32djm62: the reason it oversetimates is becasuse it's counting lines that say "pages" and not just those that say "page"08:10
thoreauputicSeveas: well, that's the same thing, is it not?08:10
dabaRsure, easier to remember08:10
bassMonkeyhmm08:11
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: good call08:11
FlyingSquirrel32strings *.pdf | grep "Page "| wc does it right08:11
bassMonkeythoreauputic: thanks...08:11
FlyingSquirrel32I'm not to good with emacs, but we'll see.08:11
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: what was the third file type?08:11
Seveasthoreauputic, yeah, but easier to understand for new users :)08:12
thoreauputicdabaR: I guess - I just remember 4=read 2=write 1=execute or access (for dirs)08:12
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: .xls08:12
thoreauputicSeveas: yes, agreed08:12
dabaRthoreauputic: stfu08:12
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: and how are you printing the word files?08:12
dabaRhaha08:12
dabaRsorry08:12
thoreauputicdabaR: excuse me?08:12
dabaRwhy am I doing that?08:12
dabaRdont know08:12
dabaRlast two times I saw your nick, I was like that.08:13
dabaRdunno08:13
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: if you're converting them anyway to ps or pdf (which are similar), you can do that first with whatever batch process you have, then count pages08:13
dabaRsorry08:13
dabaRI apologize08:13
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tomchukdjm62, FlyingSquirrel32 : try strings *.pdf | grep "Page$" | wc08:13
thoreauputicdabaR: hrm.. OK08:13
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: selecting a bunch in windows explorer and right-clicking and print.08:13
jokold reset wil kill ou alsmixer yest go andt reinstal alsa fix it08:13
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ghostboneIf I come back into the channel whooping like a girl I got the wlan card working with ubuntu O_o08:15
nmorseDoes anyone here have one of the 333 mHz iMac G3 computers?08:15
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airmikeycome on guys ,,i still got a black screen ...help me out here08:15
nmorseBecause mine won't boot the kernel after install08:15
FlyingSquirrel32tomchuk: nothing. Did you mean strings *.doc | grep "Page$" | wc  ?08:15
deviosdabaR: I can't type without looking at the keys, so this is a real issue for me.08:16
dabaRdevios: well, I cant get my toString to work like I want it to.08:16
tomchukFlyingSquirrel32: no I meant for pdf, the different grep pattern will get the right number of pages08:16
dabaRthats always the most hacked method.08:17
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Akramehello08:18
FlyingSquirrel32tomchuk, no, it returns 0 0 0 .     strings *.pdf | grep "Page "| wc works fine. Now to figure it out for .doc08:18
Akramemaximaus dcimaus mritaus08:18
deviosI am using TightVNC Viewer on WinXP and Ubuntu's Remote Desktop feature...  Any way that I can copy/paste text between my WinXP system and the VNC session?08:18
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joairmikey did you have nvidia instald08:20
tomchukFlyingSquirrel32: hrm, lemme try with a couple differnt docs, just grepping for "Page" returns matches for /PTEX.PageNumber /Type /Page and /Type /Pages08:20
airmikeyno  ati08:20
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tomchukFlyingSquirrel32: thus the over-estimation08:20
airmikeybut where i screwed up is i used fglrx for the driver08:21
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joairmikey work back08:21
jodo all over08:21
jorun xorg08:21
airmikeyi cant see08:21
Justinairmikey: try adding Option          "MonitorLayout"         "LVDS, AUTO" to the device section, or whatever is appropriate for your display08:22
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jocrrl alt f1  ore 2 ore 3o 4 5o08:23
airmikeyyeah i tried all08:23
joairmikey?08:23
joandt08:23
airmikeystill black screen  cant see08:23
jowel i did fres setup take my 5 min08:24
zAo^is there a BMP/XMMS Clearlooks skin??08:24
optikzAo^:  i remember seeing once on my net trawls08:24
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optikcheck google imho :P08:24
airmikeywell i know that ..thats the easy way08:24
Varan...08:24
zAo^optik, thnx. You remember the name?08:25
jogoogleis you bes tvrend andt rtfht08:25
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pgidzairmikey can you boot up in recovery mode08:25
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airmikeyoh yeah08:25
airmikeyhow08:25
jodo that than08:25
joon boot select it08:25
pgidzairmikey you boot up press ESC and choose it form the grub menu08:26
airmikeyok08:26
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pgidzairmikey that should put you at a command line and you can check out your x.org config file08:26
airmikeyright on08:27
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birna90halllo08:29
birna90heh08:29
birna90dfh08:29
dr_willishmm08:29
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jo How to modify kernel boot-up arguments, to gain root user access?08:29
johttp://ubuntuguide.org/08:29
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=== Ghostbone whoops like a girl :D
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jo# Boot-up computer into Ubuntu Installation CD08:31
jo# At "boot:" prompt, add "rescue" to the argument08:31
joboot: rescue08:31
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WinuxGreetings08:31
airmikeypgidz: im back in action...lol  right on dude thx a bunch08:31
joGreetings08:31
pgidzairmikey no problem mate08:32
WinuxUbuntu rulez!!!08:32
GhostboneYes it does! Despite the fact it took me 27 hours to finally get this damn wlan card working it pwns : P08:32
josudo apt-get install streamtuner08:33
josudo apt-get install streamripper08:33
punkassi am trying ot install ubuntu on my acer laptop, and after i hit Enter to start the install, i get Uncompressing Linux...Ok, booting the kernel08:33
punkassand then it just sits there08:33
Ghostbone...08:33
punkassi have tryed a new hoary cd and also a breezy colony1 as well08:33
Ghostbonestrange, if you wait a while punkass it may take a while for it to load all the files..08:33
jo[ripping...    ]  HitzRadio.com - #1 For All The Hits! [   24kb] 08:33
Seveasjo, that is not interesting at all, please stop creating noise...08:34
Poromiespunkass, im running acer laptop also08:34
GhostboneI remember I thought it had frozen but meh08:34
GhostboneI'm running a microstar laptop :P08:34
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Poromies:)08:34
punkasswell the cd drive light isnt blinking and neither is the HD light08:34
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joSeveas oke08:34
Ghostbonethen I assume it's frozen08:34
Ghostbonehave you tried more than once?08:35
Seveaspunkass, have you tried different boot options?08:35
punkassyeah, thats why i am here ;)08:35
djm62any progress on the .doc count?08:35
punkassnot yet08:35
Poromiespunkass: i had this sort of trouble when 1st installing: my keyboard froze.. fixed it by turning OFF usb-legacy from bios08:35
Ghostbone: p08:35
CarlFKwhere is a breezy repo that has libdvdcss2?08:35
SeveasCarlFK, no official repo will ever have that08:35
Poromiesi found the answer then from gentoo forums.. dunno if you are having the same problem though, what series of acer laps do you have?08:35
punkassnot yet to, different boot options, but i have tryed more than once08:35
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punkass410008:35
SeveasCarlFK, try backports/marillat..08:35
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mcrawforyo - quick question for you all - why do i have a ".dev" mounted AND a "dev" mounted?08:36
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djm62is it not perfectly legal in most countries?08:36
CarlFKSeveas how about unofficial?08:36
SeveasCarlFK, there are no unofficial breezy repos yet08:36
Seveaspunkass, try booting with acpi=off08:36
punkasswill do08:36
Poromiespunkass: ok well i have the 5021, but still could be the same problem.. what chipset do you have? is it amd64?08:37
punkassapci=off didi it08:37
punkassits a centrino 1.608:38
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Poromiesk, gl with the rest of the install o/08:38
punkassthanks08:38
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Seveaspunkass, that is bad news though, since you need acpi to take advantage of the centrino CPU scaling...08:38
punkassyes thats what i was thinking08:39
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punkassonce its installed, could i then try and make it work?08:39
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Ghostbone...does ubuntu come with a .mp3 decoder?08:39
Seveaspunkass, but you should install linux-686 (that will install a Pentium optimized kernel), and boot from that, it might just solve your acpi problem08:39
mcrawforGhostbone: install gstreamer-mad or something like that08:39
SeveasGhostbone, not by default, due to legal issues08:39
zenlunaticI opened a new file in gedit, and save it to desktop, and it didn't show up on desktop, so I did it again, and it says "do you want to replace the file, etcc" meaning its there, but it doesn't show up as an icon. any ideas?08:40
CarlFKGhostbone08:40
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SeveasGhostbone: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support08:40
mcrawforGhostbone: also, see the "restrictedFileFormats" wiki page or something lke that08:40
Ghostboneaaaah ok08:40
djm62!restricted08:40
ubotufrom memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:40
CarlFKGhostbone  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats08:40
Ghostbonethanks : )08:40
bitsweatHey, has anyone tried WMA encoding via WINE or such?08:40
CarlFKjinks!08:40
bronsonI'm trying to add more info to https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1116108:40
bronsonCan anyone tell me where to find dccprobe?08:40
mcrawforokay - i don't care why, really, but a false dev directory is a common rootkit trick - can someone just tell me whether or not I'm supposed to have a /.dev directory?08:40
bronsonpackages.ubuntu.com has no idea.08:41
Ghostboneyou are mcrawfor08:41
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mcrawforGhostbone: thank you08:41
WinuxDoes anybody know "Damn Small Linux"?08:41
FlyingSquirrel32tomchuk: yes, but I found that if you grep for "Page " with a space after it comes out correctly08:41
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mwewhat's the .dev dir good for?08:41
Ghostbonenp :)08:42
bronsonmwe: it's a hack for udev.08:42
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lejihello08:42
mwehm08:42
punkassSeveas: do you mean once i am installed then upgrade the kernel, or can i do it from the start?08:42
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Seveasbronson, I guess you mean ddcprobe which is in the xresprobe package and is installed by default08:42
Seveaspunkass, directly after installing08:42
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CarlFKWinux - I had betterluck with Ubuntu-server and adding flukebox wm, ff and a few other aps08:42
bronsonSeveas: thanks!08:42
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Seveastoo late CarlFK ;)08:43
FlyingSquirrel32tomchuk:but how do I get it to search through all of the suf-folders also?08:43
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SeveasFlyingSquirrel32, grep -R08:43
lejiwhat packages do I need to install to be able to compile softwares that use makefiles ?08:43
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: I don't know about your shell, but zsh has the ** wildcard for all subdirs08:44
Seveasleji, build-essential :)08:44
bronsonSeveas: yep, that was it.  Thanks.08:44
Seveasleji, and probably some -dev packages, depending on what you are trying to compile08:45
djm62(could write a script in zsh, it's fairly similar to bash)08:45
lejiseveas: ok thanks08:45
Seveasdjm62, grep has the -R switch :)08:45
djm62Seveas: but he's starting with strings08:45
Seveashmm ok08:45
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Seveasls -R . | xargs strings08:46
djm62Seveas: if he's doing this on an industrial scale, will he run out of command line argument buffer?08:46
zenlunaticI opened a new file in gedit, and save it to desktop, and it didn't show up on desktop, so I did it again, and it says "do you want to replace the file, etcc" meaning its there, but it doesn't show up as an icon. any ideas?08:47
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chrissturmzenlunatic, click the desktop, press ctrl+R08:47
Seveasdjm62, if you do this on industrial scale, you don't want strings, a lot of pipes and grep either...08:47
dr_willisor use the shell and see if its in /home/username/Desktop08:47
zenlunaticchrissturm: um that worked but why don't they auto refresh08:48
zenlunaticchrissturm: seems like important to me08:48
dr_willisCluttered Desktop syndrome. :P08:48
SeveasMy desktop is Completely Empty(tm)08:48
Ghostbonehmm this is funny08:48
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GhostboneI add the universe repository... and it gives me a malformed error O_o08:49
SeveasGhostbone, then you made a typo :)08:49
FlyingSquirrel32Seveas, how would you suggest doing it?08:49
GhostboneYeh I musta : P08:49
Seveaspaste your sources.list on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/08:49
Ghostbone*copies and pastes*08:49
thoreauputicGhostbone: check for typos in /etc/apt/sources.list ?08:49
Ghostboneaye im doing so now ; )08:50
chrissturmzenlunatic, normally gamin should take care of that. see if a reboot fixes the problem08:50
zenlunaticchrissturm: gamin?08:50
FlyingSquirrel32Seveas: I'm doing  strings *.pdf | grep "Page " | wc to count the number of pages in all of the pdf's in a folder08:50
FlyingSquirrel32I'll have perhaps 100 files08:50
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: that's not too many08:51
SeveasFlyingSquirrel32, that's ok08:51
Seveasbut: do wc -l08:51
dr_willisI wonder at how accurate that could will eve be - counting PDF's that way08:51
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djm62dr_willis: tests out ok08:51
Seveasand indeed, the word "Page " can occur on a page too...08:51
FlyingSquirrel32Seveas: should I use ls -R . | xargs strings  ?08:52
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SeveasFlyingSquirrel32, no08:52
dr_willissince ive seen many pdf's that are 90% white space that just print out to dozens of pages - for about 2 pages of real text.08:52
djm62dr_willis: more accurate than he'll be at counting paper08:52
GhostboneHey erm as i'm a n00b to ubuntu I don't want to screw anything up : P. But I can manually de-comment the sources.list right?08:52
dr_willishe could print them to a fake printer :P08:52
SeveasGhostbone, yeah08:52
FlyingSquirrel32Seveas: so how do I include subfolders?08:52
GhostboneOk cool =]  just don't want to go round breaking things >.<08:52
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djm62FlyingSquirrel32: how predictable is the folder structure?08:53
SeveasFlyingSquirrel32, ah ok, if you want to do that and don't have a large amount of files in total, try ls -R . | grep '.pdf' | xargs strings | grep 'Page ' | wc -l08:53
SeveasNot really fault-tolerant though (foo.pdf.bar would be counted, as would the word Page occuring in the text)08:54
djm62Seveas: when you say the text...does that happen in pdf?08:54
Seveashmm good one08:54
FlyingSquirrel32Seveas: either way, tha'ts close enough. about How many files can I do this way?08:55
Seveashave ckecked a few, but I don't see it...08:55
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orabidoohi! I would like to know how to compile a kernel in Ubuntu. I have searched on the net for instructions, but I haven't gotten anywhere with those instructions. I have an ADSL USB modem, for what no support for its drivers for the 2.6.x.x kernel yet08:55
SeveasFlyingSquirrel32, I think about 25008:55
abbot45im having a problem with pan news reader.  when i try to update a group headers it gives me this error over & over.  (Null) - article_is_valid: assertion `*a->message_id.str =='<'' failed08:55
Seveasotherwise you would have to create a little script08:55
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dave_hi all08:56
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FlyingSquirrel32Seveas: and how would that work more or less?08:56
Seveasabbot45, there is a malformed article in that group08:56
berkeshello08:56
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dave_first of all, congrats on creating the (currently) best debian based desktop linux08:56
berkescan anyone give me a hint zhat USB wireless hub to buy?08:56
abbot45Seveas, what does that mean?08:56
dave_but I have a problem with ubuntu on one of my machines08:57
berkesis there any manufacturer that actively develops an Open Source driver?08:57
Seveasabbot45, an article (message) in that group has a bad Message-id: header08:57
mwewhat package will give me the man page for perlre?08:57
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SeveasA message-id header should be Message-id: <something_unique@somewhere>08:57
Seveasmwe, perl-doc08:58
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osvaldo!sound08:58
ubotuosvaldo: Are you smoking crack?08:58
dave_My ubuntu setup boots from a raid1 array (2 disks), but when the array is not in sync (eg. due to crash) ubuntu does not boot at all08:58
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abbot45Seveas, so that means i cant update any of the headers?  do i just have to wait till the server bumps that article off over time.  cause that will take a few weeks.08:58
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kev0ris there any way to get a pcmcia card working under Ubuntu?08:59
Seveasabbot45, dunno... Pan shouldn't be freaking out about it...08:59
Seveastry unsubscribing and resubscribing08:59
kev0rpcmcia card anyone?08:59
amywilsonhow do I go about switching my desktop to KDE08:59
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petroshi09:00
berkeskev0r, yes, install pcm-tools, if you doit have them already09:00
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djm62amywilson: install kubuntu-desktop09:00
Seveaskev0r, what kind of card...?09:00
kev0rwireless card09:00
abbot45Seveas, it happens when it tries to load the articles that were already saved locally.  it doesnt even get to downloading the new ones yet.09:00
dave_so, anybody else have problems booting from raid1 when the array is not in sync?09:00
Seveaspcmcia should work out of the box09:00
amywilsonhow do I do that??09:00
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Seveasabbot45, aha!09:00
jo pcmcia is module?09:00
Seveasso something on disk is stored in a bad way09:00
djm62amywilson: are you in gnome right now?09:01
Ghostbonekev0r your card isn't a linksys WPC54Gv2 is it?09:01
amywilsonyes09:01
Seveasabbot45, try deleting the groups articles if you don't care about redownloading what's available and losing the rest...09:01
kev0rGhostbone: no a speedtouch09:01
berkesanyone any hints on good 'open source' wireless hubs?09:01
Seveasspeedtouch pcmcia card..?09:01
djm62amywilson: got to System->Administration->Synaptic package manager in the menu09:01
abbot45Seveas, should i delete the .....  nevermind.  thats what i was gonna ask.09:01
Ghostboneah hmm does it detect it as a wireless network card?09:01
Ghostbonein the device manage09:01
dave_when I boot from another, non-raid ubuntu install on another disk, it resyncs the array just fine, and I can boot my regular install again09:01
Ghostboner09:01
Seveasberkes, asus wl500g is nice09:01
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petroswho is using firefox?09:02
amywilsonok09:02
petrosmy fonts are so small!!09:02
berkesSeveas, thanks, are the drivers supported?09:02
djm62amywilson: and do a search for kubuntu, and it will come up09:02
HappyFoolpetros: i am09:02
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dave_but everytime I got a crash, ubuntu hangs during boot untill I resync the array from another linux instance.09:02
Seveasberkes, wl500g is a wireless hub and router, it needs no drivers...09:02
HappyFoolpetros: try Ctl-+09:02
abbot45Seveas, ive been having some problems with Pan crashing (from a fresh install even) so i was thinking it may have something to do with that.09:02
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djm62(and wait for some serious downloading)09:03
petrosHappyFool, the problem is, that not all fonts are small09:03
Seveasabbot45, I never had problems with it yet...09:03
petrosonly a group of fonts09:03
orabidoohi! I would like to know how to compile a kernel in Ubuntu. I have searched on the net for instructions, but I haven't gotten anywhere with those instructions. I have an ADSL USB modem, for what no support for its drivers for the 2.6.x.x kernel yet09:03
HappyFoolpetros: font size may be dependent on the webpage designer, not firefox09:03
Seveasorabidoo: You can find compilation instructions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto09:03
amywilsonok it is downloading now09:03
berkesSeveas, no, I ned the USB hub,09:03
berkesnot the router. I have a router.09:03
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petroswhen i run the ubuntu livecd, the fonts are nice in ff09:03
Seveasberkes, wireless usb hub..?09:03
Seveasthat makes no sense...09:03
petrosbut in the installed ff not09:03
orabidoook thansk09:03
djm62amywilson: all good then, just leave it to install itself09:03
SeveasDo you mean a usb wireless network card..?09:03
bcathi everybody09:03
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berkesSeveas, just that little usb stick thing.09:03
amywilsonok09:04
Seveasahhh :)09:04
HappyFoolpetros: hm. well, take a look in edit->preferences->general, 'fonts and colours'09:04
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mjrSeveas, there is a wireless USB spec nowadays09:04
berkesSeveas, yes09:04
petrosHappyFool, already tried that09:04
mjrbut I'm not entirely convinced that's what he means09:04
mjryeah09:04
Seveasberkes, usb wireless is always crappy, better use a PCI or pcmcia card...09:04
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amywilsonnow here is another question how hard is it to install a wireless card to a laptop and what ones do you recommend09:04
petrosi have here another machine with linux and ff09:04
atevesnot always actually09:04
Seveasmjr, really..?09:04
petrosand it looks there also good09:04
Seveassounds nice :)09:04
berkesSeveas, I know, but I really need USB.09:04
petrosthe problem is only in the new installed ubuntu ff09:04
djm62not hard to install a supported wireless card...which ones are best-supported?09:04
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ateveshard to say09:05
Akrame481 ubuntuien09:05
amywilsonyep09:05
Seveasberkes, well, most cards should work with windows drivers and ndiswrapper, I don't know any with native linux drivers...09:05
korCZizhi friends, mkinitrd is able to create /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12.109:05
amywilsonI want great ease since I am so new to this os09:05
berkesSeveas, know that too. but I dont want ndiswrapper09:05
atevesnetgear once started to develope native drivers, but they stopped without any remarks09:05
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berkesthats zhat I use now and it sucks big time09:05
Ghostboneisn't there a sourceforge project for linksys dirvers?09:06
Seveasberkes, well, try to find one with a prism chip then, they have support for usb...09:06
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petrosanother question, does anyone know a tutorial hoice to setup a splashscreen/nice menu for grub?09:06
Ghostbonebroadcom chips + unix = blegh : P09:06
abbot45Seveas, i think its just hardware/old ass computer problems.  Sometimes i wake up and my computer is frozen.  mouse wont even move.  sometimes it will suddenly kick me to the log in screen.  firefox crashes ocassionaly as well.  I didnt have any problems with my first ubuntu install on this box.  but i re-installed when i moved and every install after has been weird.09:06
berkesyes, there is some rt2400 project09:06
Seveaspetros, look at the ubuntu forums, it's explained there09:06
Ghostboneyeh09:06
petrosok, thx09:06
petroscu09:06
kev0rHmm, the card is not showing up in the Networking option screen....09:06
kev0rdoes this mean this card is not recocnized?09:07
Seveasabbot45, naybe you need to run memtest8609:07
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Ghostboneis it showing up in the PCMICA section though?09:07
Seveaskev0r, indeed09:07
Seveaskev0r, you will have to use ndiswrapper09:07
kev0rso how do i go about to MAKE it working :P09:07
djm62has anyone here got a name-brand pcmcia wireless card working flawlessly on ubuntu?09:07
GhostboneI do09:07
kev0rSeveas: what to do with ndiswrapper?09:07
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GhostbonePrism Intersil djm6209:07
Ghostboneit's inbuilt XD09:07
Seveaskev0r, you can use the windows drivers with it09:07
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kev0rhmm :|09:08
berkesdjm62, I am looking for one too.09:08
Seveasdjm62, intel ipw2100/ipw2200 and atheros work fine for me09:08
amywilsonme three09:08
lotia i have windows installed on hda and ubuntu on hdb, grub has been installed in the bootsector of hda, as loing as i boot into ubuntu, there are no problems. as soon as i boot windows once grub is messed up. anyone had a similar experience09:08
djm62Seveas: without ndiswrapper?09:08
berkesdjm62, it seems the rt 2400 /2500 chips are quite zell supported09:08
Seveasdjm62, indeed09:08
Seveasintel/atheros have native linux drivers09:09
Seveasprism chips too09:09
Ghostboneseveas my prism card required me to use ndiswrapper for some strange reason09:09
berkesprism chips? got any brands/names that use em, Seveas?09:09
djm62nice to know...my no-brand card is some ancient intersil prototype, as far as I can tell, and it /will/ die eventually09:09
Ghostbonebut it works =] 09:09
jolotia yes09:09
Ghostboneberkes (SOME) linksys cards use 'em, I know intersil products are all prism that's about it09:09
joi hade that to09:09
SeveasGhostbone, some prisms are not completely supported (yet?)09:09
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joinstal xp in urbuntu09:10
amywilsonI am just looking for a easy supported card09:10
GhostboneSeveas, I guess *shrug* it took no more than 5 minutes to get it working - but my broadcom card didn't even want to be detected as a network device hehe :P. So I <3 my prism anyway09:10
amywilsonand don't have many options where I live at all09:10
SeveasGhostbone, my broadcom works flawlessly with ndiswrapper :)09:11
GhostboneI hate you seveas -.- :P09:11
Seveas /kick Ghostbone09:11
Seveas:p09:11
GhostboneMind you it's linksys and me + linksys always tend to have conflicts09:11
tolleSeveas: My atheros works to, but fine isnt the right word. Since you got to configure the wireless networks yourself since netapp and those other things doesnt work.09:11
Ghostbonehehe :P I <3 you really *glances round nervously*09:11
Seveastolle, I have to do that anyway (WPA/802.1X)09:12
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Ghostboneamywilson if it's difficuilt for you to acquire a WLAN card i'd be more than happy to aid you.09:12
Seveaswhat did you say Ghostbone (looks threatening)...09:12
djm62http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Hardware09:12
lotiajo, i don't understand. could you please explain.09:12
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djm62there's a list of hardware that works...09:12
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=== Ghostbone cowers in the corner from seveas nothing oh master of ubuntu and IRC and er everything
Seveasrofl :)09:13
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Ghostbone=p09:13
Badtrashlol09:13
Ghostbonewrong person? :P09:13
jolotia its pusubul do instal xp in vmware andt run it same time as urbuntu09:13
Seveasjo, that's crap...09:13
jobut its trikie toe09:13
rezzcobainHi, im new to linux. I have a simple question. Is Ubuntu my best choice? I can use it which I am right now or switch to Fedora Core 3, Knoppix, SUSE, or Mandrake.09:13
jowhat crap09:14
Seveasinstalling XP in vmware09:14
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zenlunatichow do i get my nautilus desktop to automatically refresh when i save files to it?09:14
amywilsonok ghostbone what can you do to help09:14
Seveaslotia, what do you mean with 'messed up'?09:14
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jasoncohenrezzcobain, it depends what you want in a distro09:14
joyest but for some people is good enof09:14
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djm62rezzcobain: suse is another good distro, with kde as the default environment...I recommend live CDs or DVDs so you can try them out09:14
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lotiathe grub menu never comes up.09:14
mjrzenlunatic, it should do so automatically; your fam or gamin isn't working properly09:15
Runeclhey pemo :D09:15
joi us it for testing iso s09:15
lotiathe machine keeps rebooting.09:15
Seveaslotia, it immediately boots to XP?09:15
GhostboneWell amy if they're difficuilt to acquire where you live you could paypal me the money / cc it via Paypal or 2checkout, i'd buy you a card and send it to you. Plus i'll have a look around work and see if there are any i can pinch09:15
pemohey Runecl09:15
Seveasoh...09:15
jobefor a burn them09:15
djm62rezzcobain: ubuntu provides a good desktop experience for most people, and isn't likely to disappear suddenly09:15
bcati'm running hoary have included universe and multiverse in my sources. for several days (or weeks?) now package acroread does not update.09:15
pemocan someone help whit this problem http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44436 <09:15
lotianope. just reboots the machine.09:15
tollezenlunatic: It did that before when it used fam, now nautilus uses gamin to check for filesystem updates and it no longer works for me.09:15
amywilsonok I need to get some money first09:15
matt__Does anyone have a netgear WG511 working in ubuntu?09:15
bcati get dependancy errors: acroread: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed09:15
bcat            Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.0-7) but 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 is to be installed09:15
bcathow can i fix this?09:15
Seveasbcat, don't use random unofficial repositories...09:15
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tollezenlunatic: as with all software, stuff doesnt work untill just before a switch to something newer.09:16
bcatSeveas: np, I'm used to debian, just tell me on what base universe and multiverse is built. ubuntu unstable?09:16
Ghostboneok cool : ]  i'll dig around a bit brb09:16
matt__Does anyone have a netgear WG511 working in ubuntu?09:16
atevesyepp, my dad09:16
atevesworks fine with ndiswrapper09:17
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atevesand winXP drivers09:17
zenlunatictolle: what are you talking about?09:17
djm62idiocy....09:17
matt__oh, okay thanks09:17
SeveasUbuntu is based on snapshots of debian sid that are stabilized09:17
matt__i was trying with the prism54 drivers09:17
bcatSeveas: yes i know that09:17
djm62matt__, amywilson: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HardwareSupport09:17
atevesmight be one way, no idea. ndiswrapper works so far :D09:17
tollezenlunatic: the automatic update of folders/desktop in nautilus09:17
pemohmm09:17
SeveasThen I must have misinterpreted your question, bcat :)09:17
bcatSeveas: but universe/multiverse packages are obviously not built on top of hoary (different glibc-version). so what do they use?09:17
tollezenlunatic: it worked before for me. But doesnt since the application for monitoring the filesystem changed.09:18
bcatSeveas: or at least this applies to the acroread package09:18
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Seveasbcat, they are...09:18
tollezenlunatic: works now to, but its alot slower.09:18
Seveasacroread is not built by Ubuntu people09:18
Seveasbecause acroread is not open source09:18
bcatSeveas: So why is there a dependency problem? how can acroread from multiverse depend on libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1)?09:19
jolotia do you have xp boot disk09:19
pemoan expert in modules ?09:19
bcatSeveas: when libc6 in hoary is  2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu1309:19
jogoogle  xp boot disk09:19
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zenlunatictolle: i see09:19
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matt__matt@ubuntu:~/Desktop/prism54-ffff$ make modules09:19
matt__make -C ksrc/ modules09:19
matt__make[1] : Entering directory `/home/matt/Desktop/prism54-ffff/ksrc'09:19
matt__make -C /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build SUBDIRS=/home/matt/Desktop/prism54-ffff/ksrc modules09:19
matt__make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.09:19
matt__make: Entering an unknown directorymake: Leaving an unknown directorymake[1] : *** [modules]  Error 209:19
matt__make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/matt/Desktop/prism54-ffff/ksrc'09:19
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matt__make: *** [modules-all]  Error 209:19
matt__matt@ubuntu:~/Desktop/prism54-ffff$09:19
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Seveasmatt__, FOOL!09:19
Seveasdon't paste in here09:20
Ghostbonehehe ^ pwned : p09:20
Badtrashwoot09:20
tollezenlunatic: Btw, if I'm totally offtopic I blame the beer!09:20
Seveasbcat, that is not acroread in multiverse09:20
zenlunatictolle: um okay09:20
thoreauputicmatt__: /topic09:20
Runeclmatt__ : I have the same problem09:20
Runeclmatt__ : well, almost the same09:21
xliuUbuntu will check my file system if I have started Linux for 30 times, how to change this setting?09:21
djm62you both need to install linux-headers09:21
bcatSeveas: really? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/a/acroread/09:21
Seveasbcat, that will be the breezy package you look at...09:21
Seveasbcat, check packages.ubuntu.com or apt-cache search09:22
Runecldjm62 : I downloaded the linux-source code via synaptic09:22
bcatSeveas: ah ok, thanks for the clarification09:22
Seveasit depends on libc6 2.2.4 in hoary09:22
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Runecldjm62 : and un-tar'ed it .. but now I don't know what to do09:22
Seveasactually: >=2.2.4-409:22
Ghostbonebrb need to restart after installing the mp3 decoder me thinks09:22
bcatSeveas: how stable is breezy already? is a switch advisable for a desktop system?09:23
SeveasNo :)09:23
SeveasIt's getting shape though09:23
thoreauputicGhostbone: no you don't need to restart09:23
djm62Runecl: if you install the appropriate linux-headers package it should be right (I think)09:23
Ghostbonehmm then how come i'm getting cannot write to file errors??09:23
nalioth_wrknGhostbone: the only time you need to restart your box is when you update your kernel (and want to use it)09:23
nalioth_wrknGhostbone: is you HD full of music?09:24
Ghostbonenope09:24
thoreauputicGhostbone: what is giving you that message?09:24
bcatok thx09:24
Ghostbonetotomedia player09:24
Runecldjm62 : you mean like : apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 ?09:24
Ghostbonetotem*09:24
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thoreauputictoto....ah I see .. <laughs>09:24
Ghostbonetotem movie player bah09:24
djm62Runecl: apt-cache search linux-header09:24
tolleGhostbone: Probably cant write to .gnome/totem* files09:25
thoreauputicGhostbone: and which mp3 package did you install?09:25
Rockett17bcat> if you not looking for instability i'd suggest you just stay with the final releases and keep them up to date09:25
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tolleGhostbone: Check the permissions of the files in the .gnome2 folder.09:25
djm62Runecl: then pick the right one for your system (uname -a should give you a clue)09:25
Rockett17s/instability/stability09:25
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Ghostbonek sec.09:25
theshadowDoes anyone know any good cartoonish themes for Gnome?09:25
Runecldjm62 : alright, I'm looking for it now09:25
theshadowI have the Icons.09:25
tolleGhostbone: If you run some apps with the sudo command, they might screw up the permissions of some of the settings folders in your $HOME09:26
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djm62theshadow: have you tried themes.freshmeat.net and art.gnome.org ?09:26
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theshadowart.gnome.org are moving servers.09:26
jodoint get tvtime to work gr09:26
theshadowI haven't tried themes.freshmeat.net09:27
Runecldjm62 : that would probably be : linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386 - Linux kernel headers 2.6.10 on 38609:27
theshadowI'll try that now. :)09:27
Rockett17dont forget gnome-look.org09:27
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Ghostbonemeh darn this irc client : P09:27
refuze2loozehow do i change the owner of a folder?09:27
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Ghostbonewhere's the .gnome2 folder?09:27
typoI want to install ubuntu in a machine without CD. Is it easy to do it with pendrive+net or should I attach a CD just for the install?09:27
thoreauputicGhostbone: in your home directory09:28
Rockett17chown folder user:group09:28
GhostboneO_o and if i don't have one there09:28
djm62Runecl: really a 386? or do you mean x86?09:28
thoreauputicGhostbone: you might need to hit ctrl-h in nautilus to see it09:28
Ghostbonethere's one folder there that has a lock next to it that created by mkdir command but can't remove >.<09:28
thoreauputicGhostbone: it's a "hidden" dir09:28
Ghostboneah got it09:28
Runecldjm62 : hmm.. there's a point :)09:29
Ghostboneah think i got it *tries to play*09:29
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Ghostbone...could not open resource for writing guh O_o09:29
theshadowYeah I'm not seeing any cartoon themes.09:29
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thoreauputicGhostbone: did you install gstreamer0.8-mad ?09:30
Ghostboneyep09:30
thoreauputicOK09:30
Runecldjm62 : no.. actually I think it's the right one09:30
Ghostbonekeep getting could not open resource for writing : /09:31
goldfishGhostbone: for?09:31
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djm62Runecl: fine...worth checking ;)09:31
Neerlan_Amorimubuntu is very cool09:31
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Ghostbonewhen i try to open a file09:31
Ghostbonea .mp3*09:31
Runecldjm62 : I'm all over it :P09:31
goldfishhmm09:31
goldfishGhostbone: are u the owner of it?09:31
Ghostboneerm it was on my ext. hdd that i just transfered to my desktop now09:31
refuze2loozeRockett17, thanks.. how do i include all subfolders? it's not -R?09:32
goldfishi see09:32
goldfishGhostbone: did you use sudo to transfer it?09:32
Ghostbonebut yeh im the owner09:32
thoreauputicGhostbone: did you use sudo to copy it across?09:32
Ghostbone...nope =$09:32
goldfishhmmm09:32
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goldfishthoreauputic: :)09:32
Ghostboneso i have to use sudo?09:32
typohas anyone done this? net install from pen drive?09:33
thoreauputicno09:33
Ghostboneah09:33
goldfishGhostbone: so if you do 'ls -al blah.mp3' it says your the owner09:33
goldfish?09:33
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thoreauputicGhostbone: we thought it might be owned by root if you had used sudo09:33
goldfish*you're09:33
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Ghostboneit shows the name in green09:34
amywilsonok I am looking at it to see what is support for usb because my PCMIA slot has been messed up for some time09:34
Ghostboneand in properties it says it belongs to me09:34
goldfishk09:34
Rockett17refuze2looze> I don't remember off hand. You could be right09:34
goldfishGhostbone: what you trying to open the mp3 with?09:34
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tomchuktypo: http://d-i.pascal.at/ - instructions should work fine for Ubuntu09:35
GhostboneTotem Movie Player (the standard one) . However music player also gives me errors09:35
goldfishcan totem play .mp3's ?09:35
Rockett17yes09:35
Rockett17well09:35
barosl@_@;09:36
amywilsonI found one netgear that it say works when instructions are followed at the top of a page but get redirected every time I try to view the page09:36
Rockett17Totem-xine with w32codec pack can09:36
Ghostbonejust gives me an error saying cannot write to file09:36
goldfishWhy not use xmms or bmp ...09:36
Akrameplz , with apache , i must place my web files in /Var/ww ?09:36
goldfishOkay.09:36
Ghostbonei even chmod'd it to 777 O_o09:36
Akrame*/var/www09:36
Ghostbonei'll try xmms09:36
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goldfishGhostbone: beep-media-player is better09:36
goldfishGhostbone: dont think u should have chmod 777 it.09:36
SeveasGhostbone: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound09:36
Ghostboneyeh it said couldn't write to it so i thought meh  : p09:36
djm62amywilson: looks like an expired google cache...try googling the card name and linux09:37
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Ghostbonek : )09:37
Runecldjm62 : alright .. I installed the linux-headers .. but they are placed under /usr/src/ and the driver I'm installing looks for files under /lib/modules/build09:37
Akrameplz , with apache , i must place my web files in /var/www ?09:37
SeveasAkrame, you can specify where you want them...09:38
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baroslit's first time for me to join freenode... i'm feeling great power... @_@;09:38
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HappyFoolRunecl: if you installed the correct linux-headers, a symbolic link 'build' should have been created in /lib/modules/<version-number>09:39
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baroslwhat a nice..09:39
jef_hi09:39
goldfishyo jef_09:39
barosljef_, hi09:39
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leohey all09:40
goldfishhowdy09:40
leohave u got any clue about ubuntu?09:40
Ghostbonebeep gives the following error: Error: Please check that: 1. You have correct output plugin (i set to e-sound) 2. No other prog is blocking sound card 3. Your Sound card is config'd properly09:40
Ghostbonemost of them do : p whereas i don;t ; )09:40
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goldfishGhostbone: what other outputs are available?09:41
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baroslvery marvelous... can you hear me...?09:41
GhostboneGoldfish ALSA and OSS09:41
goldfishbarosl: yes.09:42
goldfishGhostbone: try them.09:42
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goldfishleo: yes :) do you?09:42
Ghostbonegoldfish i love you : p09:42
GhostboneAlsa works ^^09:42
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goldfishcool09:42
barosloh..;09:42
Rockett17yeah when you first install beep-media-player you have to change the audio plugin to ALSA or it doesn't play09:42
goldfishaye09:42
Ghostboneaah ;P09:42
goldfishsame with xmms i think09:42
pedingtoI run eSound for xmms and it works.09:42
goldfishhmmm09:43
Ghostboneoss works09:43
goldfishOh well, at least he got it working.09:43
Ghostbonealsa and OSS work : P09:43
pedingtoYup09:43
Ghostbone^^ thanks guys09:43
Ghostboneif anyone lives in holland near the hague I owe you a beer : p09:43
barosldo most of people of freenode use linux?09:43
goldfishbarosl: alot do09:43
goldfishbarosl: there's loads of linux channels on freenode09:43
toshiba_my ubuntu now tries to boot as K7-SMP.. on a 686 Machine. How can I uninstall K7 and switch the default boot mode to the (still present) 686 mode?09:44
goldfishthere's loads of other irc servers aswell09:44
goldfishGhostbone: Ireland close enough? :)09:44
Runecldjm62 : I did make the build now :)09:44
Runecldjm62 : it even09:44
baroslhe;09:44
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djm62toshiba_: can you boot something on the machine?09:44
GhostboneGoldfish I goto an irish pub called ned kellies near every friday : p09:44
goldfishhehe09:44
djm62the australian outlaw...09:45
toshiba_djm62, yes, i'm using it ATM.09:45
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MikeStylehey09:45
toshiba_djm62, I can boot fine as 686, but would like to remove the K7 option and make 686 default.09:45
Ghostbonethink im going to ireland next year goldfish so should I see you I'll buy you a pint or 9 :P09:45
goldfishGhostbone: :)09:45
djm62toshiba_: /boot/grub/menu.lst is the file to fiddle09:45
goldfishMikeStyle: hello.09:45
MikeStyleuhm im using wine with ubuntu and when i try to install photoshop cs2 it says i need windows 2000 or xp09:45
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rafa-hi09:46
toshiba_djm62, how can i remove K7-smp altogether, tho?09:46
Ghostbonehmm I really need to learn how to use this irc client = p09:46
baroslrafa-, hi09:46
rafa-when i start the computer, ubuntu doesn't start the network interfaces09:46
djm62toshiba_: apt-get remove linux-image-k7-whatever09:46
rafa-and i think that's why gnome isn't working09:46
rafa-could someone please tell me how to correct that?09:46
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MikeStylerafa-, after your in ubuntu go to computer,system configuration, networking, then set it up09:47
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rafa-yes09:47
baroslgnome is not related to network connection, i think..;09:47
rafa-i do that09:47
djm62rafa-: that would happen if the lo interface wasn't loading, which can happen if your /etc/network/interfaces file is messed up09:47
rafa-and the next time i reboot09:47
rafa-it doesn't09:47
djm62rafa-: when did this stop working?09:47
MikeStylerafa-, take a screenshot of your network connection so i can see wuts going on09:47
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Rockett17MikeStyle> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=263109:48
rafa-djm62, like the third time i booted up09:48
_0killsis it possible to Launch a web page from a Custom Application Launcher?09:48
rafa-MikeStyle, /etc/network/interfaces had the WEP key twice09:49
rafa-maybe that was interfering somehow09:49
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pgidzrafa check your /etc/network/interfaces file and see if it says in there auto and the the name of the network ie eth0 or wlan009:49
djm62rafa-: had you done anything unusual to it, or had anything unusual happened, before it stopped working09:49
rafa-yes, now i remember09:49
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lotiano i don't have a boot disk. i do have a floppy.09:49
MikeStylerafa-, does your isp support linux?09:49
rafa-i tried to change something using the kde network configuration tool09:49
lotiai mean i do have the install media.09:49
goldfisheh09:49
djm62rafa-: paste your /etc/network/interfaces file to the place mentioned in /topic09:49
MikeStylerockett17, ive already downloaded photoshop its just not working09:50
Scarecrow_djm62 : did you get my last message before my router acted up..09:50
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djm62rafa-: and tell us the url09:50
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djm62Scarecrow_: assume not09:50
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GhostboneAaah Gaim a friendly enviroment : P09:50
Rockett17yeah I know. There is a guide on that link of how to make it set-up and work .. however it's apparently very rocky.. only 1 person got it running09:50
Scarecrow_djm62 : now it complains: gcc: command not found (i checked and gcc-3.3-base is installed) maybe that's not enough?09:50
Rockett17your best bet would be ps809:50
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djm62Scarecrow_: apt-get install build-essential09:50
chaps0063hello all, I was hoping to figure out how to adjust the brightness of my screen on my laptop, currently, the buttons I have to use do not work for it?09:50
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Rockett17anyways, time to drop out and head home from work :D09:51
_0killsanyone know if its possible to launch a web page from a custom application launcher?09:51
Scarecrow_djm62 : tnx09:51
rafa-errr09:51
rafa-how do you cut from xterm?09:51
rafa-i mean, copy09:52
djm62_0kills: I'm not sure exactly what you want, but you can execute programs from c, you can find the default browser from gnome09:52
ompaul_0kills, do you want set the page that you want the web browser to open in as the base of the k09:52
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sanitariorafa-, just mark the text09:52
thoreauputic_0kills: command like: firefox http://your.page.com  ?09:53
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leoi do not have a clue about ubuntu - or linux09:53
jasoncohenis breezy more broken than sid at this point?09:53
ompaul_0kills, do you want set the page that you want the web browser to open in as the page that the browser opens in09:53
_0killsthoreauputic, exactly09:53
sanitariorafa-, paste with the middle mouse button09:53
_0killsompaul, no09:53
djm62rafa-: left-click and drag over the text, paste with middle button (or left and right simultaneously)09:53
leoholy cow!! thats awsome!!09:53
thoreauputic_0kills: so just make your launcher and put that as command...09:53
MikeStyledoes anyone have a download link for photoshop 7 or 8?09:53
MikeStylenvm09:53
MikeStylei go one09:53
Ghostbonethe trial i hope : p09:54
MikeStyleuhmm09:54
ompaul_0kills, enjoy09:54
MikeStylemaybe :P09:54
djm62MikeStyle: this is #ubuntu...09:54
rafa-djm62, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/30909:54
MikeStyledjm62, i know09:54
ompaulMikeStyle, we suggest that you use something called Gimp09:54
Ghostbonemaybe he want's to run PS7/8 in wine? XD09:54
MikeStyleompaul, i HATE the gimp09:54
GhostboneGimps a great program!09:54
leoi have a question about the grub boot loader09:54
MikeStylephotoshop is soo much better09:54
ompaulMikeStyle, well that is all the help I can give you, not being a windows user for 10 years09:54
GhostboneIt has the exact same potential as photoshop, just need to learn how to use it : )09:55
rafa-no it doesn't, it doesn't do CMYK09:55
_0killssweet thanks guys09:55
djm62rafa-: b0rked09:55
rafa-b0rked?09:55
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leohow can I get the boot cd to load before grub??09:55
djm62rafa-: that last line makes zerosense09:55
typotomchuk: thanks for the info, does ubuntu have a netinst image?09:55
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rasputnikleo: you need to talk to your BIOS09:56
goldfishleo: set boot from cd before hard-disk in your bios09:56
rafa-djm62, the last line of my interfaces?09:56
djm62rafa-: delete it09:56
rafa-ok09:56
djm62rafa-: it's a fragment of a good line, and it's probably confused everything else09:56
leoit is setup to boot cd first09:56
rafa-ok09:56
leohardrive is 3rd09:56
MikeStyledoes anyone know if slax linux can run from a removable disc? my mp3 player is 5 gigs and i want to run slax off it into my comp09:56
rafa-i don't want eth0 for anything anyway09:56
rasputnikleo: then you need to put a cd in? not sure what you're asking09:57
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leothe cd is in09:57
leogrub takes over09:57
thoreauputicMikeStyle: umm - this is #ubuntu - not slax ?09:57
rafa-okeanos, i'm rebootinh09:57
sanitarioMikeStyle, why don't you ask the slax dudes?09:57
rafa-wish me luck09:57
djm62but...09:57
djm62sod it09:57
rasputnikleo: it can't if the cd is bootable, cd gets first try09:57
leoits an iso file09:58
MikeStylesanitario and anyone else, im just wondering, because you all know linux better than me probably and i dont know if there is a slax channel09:58
leoi can't see why it wouldn't work09:58
thoreauputicMikeStyle: there's a #slackware at least09:58
rasputnikleo: you mean you burnt it from iso?09:58
djm62MikeStyle: it probably does work, try the slax homepage for either a HOWTO or the name of an IRC channel09:58
MikeStylefine09:58
leoi just dragged the iso file into the burn program in ubuntu09:58
leoand burnt it09:58
leodid i neet to change the options to make it bootable?09:59
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goldfishleo: what are u using to burn ?09:59
rasputnikleo: shouldn't need to if it's a bootable iso... can you read the cd ?09:59
naliothleo: if it was a bootable iso image, no09:59
baroslwhy do some channels start with '##'?09:59
naliothleo: if YOU are creating a bootable image, yes09:59
goldfishif using nero, pick "Burn image to disk"09:59
goldfishthat worked for me.09:59
leohmm10:00
thoreauputicleo: I think you might have burnt it as a file instead of an ISO10:00
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leoi used the right click on ubuntu10:00
rasputnikgoldfish: 'neee-ro'? you talk funny10:00
goldfishhmmm10:00
leodamn, i have that feeling too10:00
leowill it work ok on a cdrw10:00
rasputnikleo: if you mount the cd, what does it look like10:00
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rasputnikleo: cdrw will be fine10:00
thoreauputicleo: right click the ISO and choose burn ISO10:00
Seveasbarosl, these are so-called about channels10:00
barosl...? ;;10:01
leothoreauputic: there isn't a burn iso option10:02
unome!kubuntu live10:02
ubotuNo idea, unome10:02
leoonly write to disc10:02
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barosli'm sad because i'm poor at english... T_T10:03
unomei'm rich at body language :)10:04
barosli'm missing so many informations...10:04
Scarecrow_djm62 : hmm.. appears to be a syntax error: /bin/sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `(' <-- any ideas?10:04
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rasputnikleo: what app are you using? nautilus?10:04
concept10Seveas, could I pm you with a quick question?10:04
leoyes10:04
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Blue_Summerlo all10:05
leohello10:05
Blue_Summercan anyone tell me how to install a program on linuz?10:05
Blue_Summerlinux* well ubuntu10:05
baroslapt-get10:05
baroslor synaptic or aptitude10:05
pgavinBlue_Summer, or synaptic10:05
rasputnikhaven't tried it - I was using freebsd until a couple of days ago, that just does 'burncd /dev/cdrom /path/to/iso'10:05
barosl=310:05
leoi'm stuck on the apt-get10:05
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rafa-thank you!!10:05
Seveasconcept10, sure10:05
rafa-it works10:06
barosli like to use aptitude10:06
Blue_Summersorry i should explain this is the first time i've installed linux today ;)10:06
rafa-djm62, thank you!10:06
joapt-get install .....10:06
SeveasBlue_Summer, system -> administration -> package manager10:06
Blue_Summeri  just downloaded cedega 4.3.2 so i can play Steam on my pc10:06
rasputnikBlue_Summer : you make it sound like you install linux several times a day10:06
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Blue_Summerty seveas10:06
SeveasBlue_Summer, ah installing cedega is different10:06
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SeveasBlue_Summer, it should come with a file called README or INSTALL10:06
holycowBlue_Summer, cedega must be converted to deb format to install10:06
Seveasthat contains install instructions10:07
holycowwhat is cedega distributed as ... .rpm?10:07
djm62rafa-: all good...be careful when you touch files in /etc ;)10:07
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rasputnikleo: does linux have cdrecord?10:07
xeroxHi.10:07
Blue_Summerwhy is it so hard to install steam? Lol i wish steam made a linux version so much easier10:07
xeroxDoes anybody know a safe way to get GTK 2.7.0?10:07
rafa-djm62, it wasn't me, i think it was kde10:07
pgavinxerox, build from source and install in your home directory10:07
rasputnikleo: yes it does. get that10:07
baroslBlue_Summer, what is extname of the file...?10:08
Blue_Summerhmm10:08
Blue_Summeri open the file10:08
leook10:08
leothanks10:08
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Blue_Summer./usr/ then i get a  menu, bin, lib or  share10:08
pgidzleo you could burn you iso with this command 'cdrecord dev=/dev/hdd name of iso file' the hdd is the name of your cd recorder10:08
rasputnikleo: there's probably an easier way with nautilus, I just know cdrecord is easy enough to use from the cli10:08
pgavinok, so I got a cheapo hpdj3740 today, and the first page I printed was fine, but then it started printing the page an inch down10:08
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xeroxpgavin, what do you think of this? http://www.advogato.org/person/seb128/diary.html?start=18  But I can't succed in installing those.10:09
Blue_SummerTo install cedega which file do i go in? Lib, Bin or Share?10:09
rasputnikleo: it's in apt by the way. you might need 'universe' first10:09
vinuxpgavin, yea i've had those cheap printers before :(10:09
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baroslBlue_Summer, none of them..;10:09
seb128xerox: what the issue with these packages ?10:09
Blue_Summeri've extracted the file to my desktop i open and there are 3 folders10:10
Spughow can i (gasp) rip copy controlled cds?10:10
Blue_Summeri'm sorry i'm a noob i just don't understand10:10
xeroxseb128, some errors, could I paste it in private?10:10
seb128xerox: sure10:10
baroslBlue_Summer, can you write the name of the file...?10:10
_0killsBlue_Summer, there is a detailed HowTo on the download page of cedega10:10
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holycowBlue_Summer, no no no10:10
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holycowhaha10:10
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pgavinvinux, were you able to fix it?10:11
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holycowBlue_Summer, do sudo apt-get install alien to make sure you have alien10:11
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vinuxpgavin, yep a sledge hammer does wonders to cheap plastic :)10:11
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amywilsonOk I finished installing the kde but the it still didn't change over from gnome help please on this one10:11
holycowBlue_Summer, then do alien -c cedega..whatever.rpm10:11
holycowthat will create a deb file for you10:11
Blue_Summeralien? ok lol what do i write that command in ? Root Terminal?10:11
SeveasBlue_Summer, no, NORMAL terminal10:11
holycowwhen you get the deb file do sudo dpkg -i cedega..whatever...deb10:11
asdxHow can I install a spanish translation for openoffice/firefox on hoary?10:11
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pgavinvinux, lol, well, I don't mean give it the "permanent fix" :)10:12
Seveasthe root terminal should be avoided as much as possible10:12
holycowblue use a regular terminal10:12
Blue_Summerahh10:12
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kakalto*yawn*10:12
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Seveasasdx, install language-support-es10:12
kakaltog'morning10:12
_0killsamywilson, did you click on Session at the GDM?10:12
asdxSeveas: thank you10:12
Blue_Summerso in terminal i type:  sudo apt-get install alien10:12
mweamywilson, log out of gnome and choose kde at the login screen10:12
amywilsonnope it started loading like kde but then went back to gnome10:12
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_0killsamywilson, Session gives you the options of which windows manager to load from10:12
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vinuxpgavin, nope. Some printers they sell do or don't work. You might want to call tech support. Let me tell ya why. Even though it's cheap printers can be pretty advanced to fix.10:13
SeveasBlue_Summer, alien should be there already10:13
holycowand press enter10:13
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kakaltoI still haven't got my hoary ubuntu cd in the post...10:13
rkingis libapache-mod-perl use the DSO version?  i'm new to ubuntu and don't know how to tell you what version i'm on... /etc/debian_version says 3.110:13
Seveasyou just type alien cedega-something....rpm10:13
Blue_Summerok10:13
kakaltoand yet I ordered before warty?10:13
kakaltoI got warty10:13
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kakaltobut I haven't got hoary yet10:13
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kakalto>.<10:13
rasputnikkakalto: i ordered a bundle two months ago and they turned up last week10:13
Spugkakalto: me neither, so10:13
Seveaskakalto, you should have ordered again for hoary10:14
vinuxpgavin, you might have to exchange it for another one10:14
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SeveasCaWIss, we speak english in here10:14
pgavinvinux, bah10:14
Blue_Summerit says: Must run as root to convert to deb format (or you may use fakeroot).10:14
kakaltonew account, Seveas ?10:14
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amywilsoncool thanks got it10:14
GhostboneHey guys and girls, is cedega free? I coulda sworn it was O_o10:14
CaWIsssearcher`, oo sorry wrong place euheh10:14
pgavinvinux, i just got the stupid thing :/10:14
SeveasBlue_Summer: apt-get  install fakeroot10:14
vinuxpgavin, yep well it's happened to me before10:14
Blue_Summerty10:14
kakaltofrom how I understood it, it should have sent automatically10:14
wazdminhey guys...my mouse movement is a little choppy at times..how can that be fixed ?10:14
SeveasBlue_Summer, and then: sudo alien cedega....rpm10:14
CaWIssSeveas, really sorry :P10:14
Seveaskakalto, something got messed up iirc10:15
vinuxpgavin, it's best to call and let them ( tech support ) figure it out. They do it all day.10:15
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rkinghow can i explore the contents (esp. the changelog) of a package without installing it?  is there a packages.ubuntu.org?10:15
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MikeStyleUhm, i plugged in my mp3 player through usb (running ubuntu) and its not recognizing it while its in removable disc mode10:16
goldfishrking: there is10:16
wazdminanyone know the reason my mouse doesnt move that well..is it because a low memory problem maybe ?10:16
baroslrking, .com10:16
vinuxpgavin, they could maybe get it on track in like 3 easy steps or maybe 15 :)10:16
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Blue_SummerSeveas i just pmd you my code10:16
joyes got it ti work xawtv10:16
kakaltoSeveas, thanks10:16
rkingthanks10:16
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djpcan anybody tell me how i change the default command line editor? by default i think vim opens when i edit my crontab etc.10:16
littlefaeHelp?10:16
pgavinvinux, I'm pretty sure its not something wrong w/ the printer... I forgot to mention that the first page I printed was in A4 mode (but I'm using Letter paper)10:16
joxawtv -c /dev/video110:16
jo did it10:16
barosldjp, export EDITOR='/usr/bin/blah'10:17
vinuxpgavin, I see said the blind man :)10:17
littlefaeI think I've successfully installed my wifi card at last.  But, I did an incorrect ndiswrapper -m... Can I undo it, and then redo it correctly?10:17
pgidzwazdmin you could check system -> preferences -> mouse -> motion10:17
pgavinvinux, in A4 mode, the page starts correctly, but of course, it ends up runing of the page10:17
djpbarosl: thanks10:17
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pgavinvinux, s/runing/running10:17
baroslubuntu...10:17
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littlefae?10:18
wazdminok..thanks pgidz10:19
rkingdoes anyone know if the hoary libapache-mod-perl is built as a DSO?  you'd know if it is if SIGHUP reloads your code10:19
littlefaeI think I've successfully installed my wifi card at last.  But, I did an incorrect ndiswrapper -m... Can I undo it, and then redo it correctly?10:19
asdxI installed hoary on 5 computers today. On a little enterprise. The employees are happy with it :)10:19
baroslis script allowed in this channel...? it is very simple;10:19
FlyingSquirrel32where can I find details on the file formating of a m$ word .doc file?10:20
vinuxasdx, woot! Ubuntu will soon control the world! hehe no not really10:20
Seveasbarosl, script..?10:20
asdxvinux: :)10:20
baroslhmm;10:20
CaWIssasdx, very nice , good work :P10:20
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asdxthx! :) and I have money for the weekend :P10:20
asdxthx ubuntu! thx!! :D10:20
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FlyingSquirrel32 asdx: did you install any type of server?10:21
baroslmaybe i'm using dialect...;10:21
amywilsonOk i now can say I love kde I never used it before but I really like it10:21
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: microsoft.com? ;)10:21
CaWIss:D10:21
Spughow can i (gasp) rip copy controlled cds? any app that can, because sound juicer doesn't seem to be able to.10:21
wazdminalso..i am trying to install gftp application..this would be my first installation of any prgram under linux..i looked around a little bit..i downloaded the gftp.tar.gz file from the gftp webpage.. i then ran a sudo command to install it and i get this messgae E : couldnt find list apckage10:21
littlefae"Hello? :(10:21
Seveaswazdmin, you are following the bad route :)10:21
barosllittlefae, ?10:21
Seveaswazdmin, system -> administration -> package manager10:22
goldfishwazdmin: get it from the ubuntu repos.10:22
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barosli mean "script" like this;10:22
littlefaeI think I've successfully installed my wifi card at last.  But, I did an incorrect ndiswrapper -m... Can I undo it, and then redo it correctly?10:22
yuachtwazdmin, sudo apt-get install gftp10:22
wazdminok...how do i follow the good route10:22
Seveaswazdmin, search for gftp in there10:22
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baroslcurrent desktop screenshot of barosl: http://barosl.com/pub/desktop/barosl-desktop-1120076530.jpg10:22
Seveaswazdmin, I just showed the good route ;)10:22
Seveasbarosl, that is explicitely NOT allowed and will cause you to be banned...10:22
pgidzlittlefae have you tried installing it again and see if it over writes what you have done10:22
baroslSeveas, aha; thanks for advising.. :-)10:22
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: do you really think m$ will release that info on their site, or are you pulling my leg?10:22
littlefaewon't let me, says there's already a configuration for it10:23
wazdminsrry if this is a dumb question..but what exactly is a tar.gz file ext..is like a .rar on a windows machine10:23
asdxI installed slackware 10.1 for a NAT server. And Ubuntu Hoary for five desktop computers10:23
CaWIsswazdmin, did you tried synaptic10:23
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djm62FlyingSquirrel32: they are claiming to be moving towards something XML-like, and I have no idea how far along the route they are10:23
asdxI'm thinking to replace that slackware for ubuntu as well. I have to set as NAT and Printer server...10:23
fgebarosl, i hat kde but what is the font10:23
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: it could be in word 2003 for all I know10:23
CaWIsswazdmin, it's very esay with synaptic or apt-get10:23
wazdmindo i need to download the gftp file from there site or will get apt-get line do that for me ?10:23
amywilsonok does konqueror have java installed on it???10:23
baroslfge, aquafont for english10:23
wazdminno i havent tried synamtec10:23
CaWIsswazdmin, apt will do it for you10:24
wazdminok10:24
wazdminlet me do thart10:24
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pgidzlittlefae try make uninstall in the ndiswrapper directory10:24
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wazdminE: Couldn't find package gftp10:24
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Word has a link to some stuff at the bottom of the page10:24
wazdmini type exactly what u told me there10:25
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dairgood evening everbody! does anyone of you knows a free good handbook for ubuntu like freebsd has?10:25
littlefaeEr no...10:25
pgidzlittlefae no what10:25
Garyunone exists yet10:25
baroslwhat times do you have..?10:26
littlefaeI need to undo the configuration it set for modprobe, not the driver10:26
CaWIsswazdmin, maybde this can help http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories10:26
dairgaryu: do you mean "no handbook exists"; barosl: 10:30pm10:26
Scarecrow_pemo :D10:26
wazdminkk10:26
Garyuexactlz, dair10:26
Garyu"no handbook exists"10:27
CaWIsswazdmin, and take a look at all the guide it's nice10:27
johm start to like urbuntu10:27
baroslwho others?10:27
jobut gentoo nice to10:27
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js_where can i find the helvetica font?10:27
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: thanks a lot.10:27
Garyuwiki.ubuntu.com could also help you10:27
djm62jo: I don't think they're competing10:27
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GaryuGentoo vs. Ubuntu Deathmatch!10:28
joi run gentoo amd64 i hoop that urbutu wil run on it to nauw im runing ubuntu 32 bit10:28
djm62js_: package ttf-freefont10:28
barosli like gentoo but am using ubuntu now :-)10:28
Garyuhow fast can YOU install your software?10:28
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jodjm62 what do you mean ?10:28
barosli love portage of gentoo but my computer is very slow...;10:29
jothat urbuntu is better than gentoo?10:29
djm62jo: gentoo's strong points aren't ubuntu's strong points10:29
pgidzlittlefae what problems have you got with the configuration10:29
alberto_I have a question, I have a laptop with an ati mobility radeon, i wanna have a big destop with my external monitor-or- 2 destops.... how can i do this//// ii been searching online about it and there is too much about it and nothing usefull... can oneone help me or point me to the rigth direction ?10:29
GaryuI don't undestand why people want to sacrifice hours on end to gain a few per cent application speed10:29
littlefaeI just want my wifi to work. :'(10:29
djm62jo: I meant the opposite of that, that "better" isn't a useful concept unless you're comparing items with the same aims10:29
joyes some thinks i like in gentoo muts more andt some in urbuntu10:29
littlefaeI've spent days and lots of money, with little return.10:29
wazdminok..so i pretty much just copy paste over writing everything in the orginal file when editing extrarepositories10:29
pgidzlittlefae what's not working on it10:30
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js_how can i turn antialiased fonts on?10:30
pgidzlittlefae and which card have you got10:30
djm62js_: in gnome?10:30
Garyujs_: in gnome?10:30
littlefaeI can't connect.  Can't list it in networking, can't do squat.. :(10:30
GaryuPreferences > Fonts10:30
djm62Garyu: jinX!10:30
Garyudjm62: blah10:30
littlefaeNdiswrapper reports: driver present, hardware present10:30
jobut get bit tajerd of comiling did it for 2 year nauw    but dis is fun urbunto andt gentoo10:30
Garyu;)10:30
pgidzlittlefae which card are you using10:30
CaWIsswazdmin, yep10:30
joandt vware to test other distos10:31
js_djm62, Garyu: actually, in kde10:31
littlefaeLinksys WPC 11 v.410:31
jovmware10:31
Garyuahum, no clue :) have xfce in front of me no10:31
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Garyunow*10:31
pgidzlittlefae do you know this chipset it uses10:31
djm62js_: ugh, can't help you there...maybe try #kubuntu10:31
js_yeah10:31
pgidz*the10:31
littlefaeNo.... How do I find out10:31
joi find out that gentoo unstabel is running more stabel than gentoo stabel  lol10:31
diemanwow10:32
Garyujo: :-)10:32
diemanthe ntfs resizing works really well10:32
pgidzlittlefae i'll see if i can find out10:32
amywilson#kubuntu10:32
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jodoint no about urbuntu unstabel?10:32
ompauldieman, but really the best partition size for ntfs is 010:32
pemojo sure about that ?10:32
Garyuis there a possibility to connect to irc.freenode.net via a webbrowser instead of another application?10:32
jojub i gnm witch vrend hy run stabel gentoo10:32
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jowy talk all day10:33
johy get muts more error the my10:33
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asdxCan I set hoary as a NAT/Printing server right?10:33
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jolast time thy do muts work on amd6410:33
pemoGaryu you can but it sucks via webbrowser :(10:34
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Garyupemo: I know, but I don't have much choice10:34
djm62asdx: yeah10:34
dairjoin #ubuntu-de10:34
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wazdminya i think  my mouse problem is just my lack of memory10:35
dairups10:35
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wazdmin256mb just dont cut it anymmore10:35
pemoGaryu there is a jirc running from webservers..10:35
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Hurtig_hi10:35
Hurtig_where i can put my mplayer skins?10:35
Garyupemo: so jirc @ google could do the trick, I10:35
GaryuI'll try that then :)10:36
Hurtig_/home/xxx/.mplayer  ?10:36
littlefaeRealtek RTL8180L10:36
littlefaeThats the chipset I beliebe10:36
Blue_SummerAnyone know of a free program like cedega that i can use to play steam e.t.c with?10:36
Hurtig_hey i want to now what you guys think of my desktop10:36
pemoGaryu : yes i dont know the url in my head :(10:37
Hurtig_www.kolumbus.fi/leena.valkamo/5.png10:37
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djm62Blue_Summer: cedega is pretty much it...it's free from CVS if you have the hair10:37
leoi downloaded k3b so i can burn an iso to a cd10:37
wazdminomfg10:37
leoam i on the right track?10:37
wazdminit is too easy to install  apps on linux10:37
Hurtig_hey10:38
wazdminor ubuntu10:38
Hurtig_where i put mplayer skins?10:38
CaWIsswazdmin, with apt or synaptic yes :D10:38
wazdmin= )10:38
leoit doesnt work 4 me10:38
djm62Hurtig_: what's your launcher at the bottom of the screen?10:38
scottanyone have the install file for Google Earth? (they've temporarily disabled downloads, and I know it's not ubuntu, but you guys are cool)10:38
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leolauncher?10:38
wazdminwill the apps i installed show up for my other uers as well ?10:38
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Hurtig_hehe its not launcher :)10:38
djm62leo: have you run k3b-config or whatever it's called?10:39
kwilcoxAnyone have basic knowledge of the RT2500 wirless drivers that can take a look at my iwconfig and ifconfig10:39
ompaulleo, start a terminal and type k3b10:39
Blue_Summerty djw6210:39
leono it wont run10:39
Hurtig_its gnome bar with trancparency :)10:39
epsasshould i use modconf to manage modules?10:39
leook10:39
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kwilcoxi can set a signla, but can only send packets, none are recieved10:39
leobash: k3b: command not found10:40
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Hurtig_where i put mplayer skins?10:40
ompaulleo how did you install it?10:40
CaWIsswazdmin, sorry didint try it I'm only one user :P10:40
littlefaepgidz, still there?10:40
leoi dont think i have installed it10:40
CaWIsswazdmin, but probably yes10:40
leoi got this weird zip thing and i dont know how to run it10:40
pgidzlittlefae yes you could try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16054&highlight=linksys+wpc1110:41
ompaulleo do this 'sudo apt-get install k3b' and it will be installed10:41
Seveaswazdmin, yes they will, you install them as root, the super-user10:41
djm62Hurtig_: ~/.mplayer/Skin10:41
wazdmini made an extra user so i dont run as root all the time10:41
Seveasleo, sudo apt-get install k3b10:41
leocontrol.tar.gz and data.tar.gz10:41
refuze2loozewazdmin, there is no root account on ubuntu by default..10:41
wazdminoo10:41
wazdminlmao10:41
CaWIsswazdmin, you sudo right , so theres no root10:41
refuze2loozewazdmin, by default you can't run as root at all10:41
Seveaswazdmin: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:42
refuze2loozeyou use sudo or fakeroot10:42
Seveasread that page, it explains all :)10:42
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djm62was ubuntu the first linux distro to do the "no root by default" thing?10:43
pgidzlittlefae yes you could try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16054&highlight=linksys+wpc1110:43
ompauldjm62, no I know knoppix did it :)10:43
refuze2loozedjm62, i dunno for sure, but i doubt it10:43
Seveasdjm62, one of the first10:43
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d4rksh4deSeveas> thanks for helping me out yesterday10:43
epsashmm - how do you guys manage your modules?10:43
leothanks Seveas that seems to be installing good10:43
Seveasd4rksh4de, yw :)10:44
cavediverHi. Is there a way to get irssi to display foreign characters correct both from utf8 and iso users ?10:44
Seveascavediver, no...10:44
Seveasit's either one or the other10:44
djm62cavediver: it's not part of IRC, really10:44
Hanna_in a perfect world, everyone would use unicode.10:44
djm62cavediver: jabber is more internationalised, I think10:45
Seveasthere is no way for a program to figure out which charset a line is written in...10:45
Seveasdjm62, irrsi can display boty iso-xxxxx and unicode perfecly fine10:45
cavediverHmm ok..10:45
Seveasbut you cannot use 2 charsets simultaneously...10:45
cavediveri've heard something about charconv, but that involved some boring compilation :( Is there another way ?10:46
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Seveasiconv10:46
djm62Seveas: what if he ran two clients?10:46
Seveasno there is no way, it's fundamentally impossible to use 2 charsets at the same time!10:47
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littlefaeWell, Ubuntu now sees it, but I can't do anything networky10:47
Seveasdjm62, that is possible10:47
djm62:)10:47
refuze2loozecavediver, what's wrong with compiling from source?10:47
pgidzlittlefae what does iwconfig give you10:47
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cavediverrefuze2looze: it's boring :) I want my package manager to know what's on my box.10:47
littlefaeEverything I need in the way of information on the card10:47
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PMBanyone available to assist regarding getting DMA setup on my DVD and DVD-RW drives?10:48
cavediverSeveas: is that possible to apt-get ? (iconv)10:48
PMBits confusing the hell out of me10:48
matt__are there newer pre-compiled kernels for ubuntu?10:48
nalioth!dma10:48
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Seveascavediver, it's on your system already...10:48
pgidzlittlefae so it has a signal and is the right freq10:48
JustinTSWoodV: how's the weather? :-P10:48
Seveascavediver, but it cannot do what you want10:48
nalioth!tell PMB about dma10:48
PMB!dma10:48
cavediverSeveas: oh i see10:48
refuze2loozecavediver, get used to compiling from source. open source is what makes linux beautiful10:48
Seveaswhat you want is *fundamentally impossible*10:48
Hurtig_where i put mplayer skins?10:48
TSWoodVJustin, hahahaha!  Hot, hazy, and humid here.10:48
PMB?10:48
goldfishPMB: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/yourdvd...10:48
goldfish?10:48
littlefaeFrequency?....10:48
cavedivermatt__: hoary no, breezy yes.10:49
SeveasHurtig_, you already got an answer to that...10:49
matt__im too n00b to compile, and im on a 266mhz :(10:49
typowhere can I get instructions on how to install ubuntu with raid+lvm?10:49
pgidzlittlefae yes10:49
matt__im on hoary10:49
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matt__why not in hoary?10:49
vinuxso is breezy stable yet?10:49
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SirGirvinux, no.10:49
djm62Hurtig_: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/gui.html10:49
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kwilcoxHELP!  Whenever I try to run a program from a menu, it prompts me for my password.. both root password and my user password don't work... i can only access the programs through 'su' in the terminal!10:50
littlefaeAnd how do I know which to use?10:50
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TSWoodVWhassup with breezy?  Hoary was much more stable at this point...10:50
matt__why isnt there updated pre-compiled kernels for hoary?10:50
SeveasTSWoodV, not really10:50
pgidzlittlefae you need to find out what your router or modem is set to ie what channel10:50
Seveasin december hoary was not that usable10:50
refuze2loozematt__, it's not difficult to compile from source10:50
djm62TSWoodV: even meta-stability isn't guaranteed10:50
littlefaeAnd, er, how?10:50
TSWoodVSeveas, ran hoary early on a Tosh lappy with little to no problems along the way.10:50
Hurtig_exit10:51
matt__refuze2looze, it would take ages, im on  a 266mhz laptop :(10:51
SeveasTSWoodV, and breezy introduces a lot more high-impact changes than hoary...10:51
djm62matt__: there are security updates only10:51
TSWoodVdjm62, understood.10:51
matt__:(10:51
jasoncohenhow can ubuntu include dvdrip in multiverse if ubuntu doesn't package transcode? if a user is using backport extra's this isn't a problem, but don't packages need to have all dependencies satisfied?10:51
pgidzlittlefae hard wire to your router/modem and the enter the ip address and in the setup screen it will tell you somewhere10:51
refuze2loozematt__, to compile the kernel you mean? just stick to the ones on the hoary repository10:51
djm62matt__: why do you need a later kernel?10:52
matt__yeah, but there is a bug i think thats stopping my prism54 w/lan card from working10:52
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Burgundaviajasoncohen, that was due to a last minute error10:52
refuze2loozematt__, are u sure the bug is in the kernel?10:52
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matt__well a guy on #prism54 is pretty sure it is10:52
djm62matt__: have you seen an updated kernel which claims to fix that problem, or are you just hoping that that was the problem, and that it's been fixed?10:52
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PMBok, trying to enable dma on both optical drives (they both support them in windows). Now when I try to activate it via hdparm I get a message "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device".10:53
matt__well i think it would have been fixed as this guy on #prism54 knows about it10:53
djm62kernel compile on 266 is do-able, if you can leave your box alone for a few hours10:53
SeveasPMB, amd motherboard?10:54
refuze2loozedjm62, do you think he might screw up some dependancies?10:54
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Poromiesmatt__: you can dl kernelimages from breezy reps if needed, just edit sources.conf to breezy, apt-get update (NOTE: dont upgrade, or you will have very unstable breezy system then), use synaptic to choose the suitable kerne-image to install, then modify sources back to  hoary10:54
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matt__i think thats too complicated for me, im very new to *nix10:55
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Poromiesive done that (xpres 200 chipset is getting even close-to-working support at kernel 2.6.12)10:55
djm62matt__: it's certainly beyond the scope of this chatroom...10:55
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kjonI need help (please!)... I've installed ubuntu on my WinXP Virtual machine. I got sound from there, but I can't play music... Why?10:56
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kjon(and I wan't to watch anime.... onegai!!!)10:56
Blue_Summerlol10:56
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GaryuI have a relatively old videocard (Nvidia Riva TNT2, 32Mb) in my system, but was able to run a 'quite decent' game of Unreal Tournament. How would I go about in Ubuntu to install OpenGL drivers? Or are they already installed?10:57
kjonany hint??? help me!10:57
kjont-T10:57
refuze2loozekjon, do you have the codecs installed10:57
yuachtkjon, prolly no codecs10:58
ys76Garyu: You may have a look at the wiki and search for nvidia...10:58
yuachtGaryu, i think the nvidia-glx package supports it yes10:58
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refuze2loozeGaryu, in a terminal type glxinfo |direct rendering10:58
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refuze2loozewhat does it say10:58
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BrokenpipeI have an ATI Radeon 9800, and I followed these instructions, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557 , but I -still- get "Mesa GLX" from fglrxinfo. Any help here?10:58
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refuze2loozei mean...10:59
kjonI've just downloaded VLC.10:59
kjonVLC worked fine in my virtual fedora core 3, however... it doesn't on ubuntu...10:59
yuachtrefuze2looze, that only answers if it's enabled right?10:59
refuze2loozeGarathor, glxinfo |grep direct10:59
yuachtkjon, compile yourself10:59
tonkarscurse me ..., someone knows how to delete grub having no problems with winXP ?10:59
refuze2loozeyuacht, it answers whether or not you have 3d acceleration enabled10:59
matt__Poromies where is sources.conf ?10:59
Seveasmatt__, it's /etc/apt/sources.list11:00
yuachtrefuze2looze, right, and he needed the drivers11:00
refuze2loozethat message was for Garyu not Garathor ...11:00
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Seveastonkar, you don't want to run Linux anymore..?11:00
matt__ok, thanks11:00
refuze2loozeyuacht, opengl is installed in ubuntu by default11:00
tonkarmmm ..... yes i want11:00
kjonhow can I get sure that I've installed the audio codecs?11:01
yuachtrefuze2looze, okay11:01
yuachtkjon, wait a sec11:01
refuze2loozeyuacht, if 3d acceleration is disabled, he must need the nvidia driverws11:01
tonkarbut i need one of my two hdd11:01
tonkarfor another compute11:01
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Seveastonkar, grub can boot windows XP to, so why delete it..?11:02
matt__Is it hard to compile a kernel?11:02
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Seveasmatt__, not really11:02
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djm62matt__: it's intimidating the first couple of times, but there are guides available on the net and in magazines11:02
tonkarmmm ... i don't know, but i don't want to have problems when i extract my hdd11:02
Garyuyuacht: a bit late reply from me, but thanks :). You were right, it's supported by the glx-drivers11:02
littlefaeThis is crummy11:02
eduardosomebody from chile?11:03
Seveasdjm62, on Ubunto compiling the kernel is a breeze :)11:03
yuachtkjon, install gstreamer0.8-plugins11:03
yuachtit's in the universe11:03
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tonkarchile!11:03
pgidzlittlefae what is crummy ?11:03
littlefaeWhy can other people get theirs working, and not me? :'(11:03
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yuachtGaryu, np ;)11:03
littlefaeI am apparently connected to the router, as it has picked up it's MAC number11:03
littlefaeBut I can't ping anything11:03
djm62Seveas: something beyond kernel-package?11:03
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yuachtlittlefae, got any firewall running?11:03
Seveasdjm62, no, just kernel-package11:04
Seveaskernel-package is easy :)11:04
littlefaeOnly on the router itself, from the outside world11:04
pgidzlittlefae have you checked system > admin > networking11:04
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djm62Seveas: from a newbie perspective, not so much11:04
yuachtgetting the right ip and stuff like that?11:04
BadTrashnewb question... good ftp proggie to run on ubuntu? want to upload a screencap to show peeps in the other server?11:04
pgidzlittlefae try that and see if you are using dhcp to get your ip address11:05
BadTrasherr -1 ? or so :)11:05
tonkarSeveas? would i have problems if i extract my hdd without doing anything, or should i modify something in grub.conf?11:05
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djm62BadTrash: menu Places->Connect to Server11:05
BadTrashahh thanks DJm62... first day with Ubuntu11:05
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yuachtBadTrash, try gFTP, super easy11:06
yuachtBadTrash, sudo apt-get install gftp11:06
BadTrashWell I use smartftp normally so I found out that does not work on here :)11:06
SeveasBadTrash, places -> connect to server11:06
Seveaseasiest FTP client possible...11:06
BadTrashso I see11:07
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BadTrashthanks11:09
matt__Hey, my pcmcia card isnt detected, anyone know why? when i insert it dmesg reports: PCI: device 0000:05:00.0 has unknown header type 7f, ignoring.11:09
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djpcan anyone tell me where the .emacs folder is created when i run emacs from the command line?11:10
Seveasin your homedir11:10
tonkarsomeone knows how can i extract one of my hdds without havinng problems with my winxp who is in the main hdd? i'm using grub ...11:10
matt__Hey, my pcmcia card isnt detected, anyone know why? when i insert it dmesg reports: PCI: device 0000:05:00.0 has unknown header type 7f, ignoring.11:10
goldfish....11:11
djpit has not created itself. i ran emacs from the command line and it opened in windowed mode, however all i did was close it would this be why no .emacs folder was created?11:11
Seveastonkar, I don't understand what you want to do, do you want to physically remove a disk?11:11
tonkaryes11:11
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tonkarscuse me for my bad english11:12
Seveasif it is not the primary master (aka C: in windows) it should not be that big a deal11:12
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vinuxHey any of you guys have a copy of the ubuntu DVD.iso on hand? I would like to download it from you :)11:12
yuachtvinux, why not use main site?11:12
Seveasvinux, release.ubuntu.com11:12
djpSeveas: it has not created itself. i ran emacs from the command line and it opened in windowed mode, however all i did was close it would this be why no .emacs folder was created?11:12
vinuxyuacht, it's bittorrent isn't working for me11:13
Seveasdjp, might be...11:13
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tonkarmmm ....., but it is not necesary to modyfi some grub configuration file?11:13
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tonkarmaybe menu.lst?11:13
Seveastonkar, not if you don't re-plug the other drives11:13
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zenlunaticdoes chatzilla come with firefox?11:14
deliadhello11:14
pedingtochatzilla is an extension11:14
pedingtoYou can install it via addons.11:14
tonkarok .... i will try, thanks a lot ;)11:14
deliadi am new in linux and in abuntu11:14
matt__Hey, my pcmcia card isnt detected, anyone know why? when i insert it dmesg reports: PCI: device 0000:05:00.0 has unknown header type 7f, ignoring11:14
Seveaszenlunatic, you will need to install it separately11:14
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deliadi am looking for a irc client that support hebrew fonts11:14
Seveasmatt__: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.11:14
matt__ok thanks11:15
Seveasdeliad, try xchat, it has full unicode support11:15
matt__i thought my router had crashed11:15
maidoes anyone in here use cacti?11:15
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deliadhmm my friend says that in mirc (windows windows) that he see gebresh and if he write to me i see too11:17
IFRFLYRHere's something weird: I can't reach google with Firefox on this machine; but every time I try my firewall reports an attempt to get in on 72.14.207.104. What gives?11:17
svennglennNewbie question: Is it possible to write python code i Bluefish and compile/run it with a keyboard command (from Bluefish)?11:17
fgesvennglenn, use anjuta or kdevelop for that11:18
GhostboneIFRFLYR check your local host file11:18
fgethey are really good11:18
IFRFLYRHmmm.11:18
Ghostboneah well night people : )11:18
svennglennfge: Do they work with Gnome?11:19
IFRFLYRWell. checking local host file reveals nothing11:19
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fgesvennglenn, anjuta is designed for gnome programming11:19
IFRFLYRAnyone have any idea?11:19
fgewith anjuta and glade,you can code a gnome gui to your python app svennglenn11:20
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deliaddoes ubuntu have a firewall or i need to install if i need, what to choose?11:20
IFRFLYRI mean, does google kick something back at anyone else from 72.14.207.104 or 72.14.207.99?11:20
Burgundaviadeliad, no and if you need one, try firestarter11:20
IFRFLYRdeliad, firestarter11:20
Burgundaviadeliad, it will setup your firewall11:20
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deliadtnx bro11:21
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remyforbes777does deliad use a gui11:22
IFRFLYROkay, I'll rephrase: All of a sudden, I am noticing that when I try to reach google using FF on ubuntu, my firestarter firewall complains of inbound hits from 72.14.207.104 and 72.14.207.99. Can anyone explain this ?11:22
svennglennfge: I've installed Anjuta now, but how do I set it to compile my code with Python?11:22
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ScislaCI have my machine usually running two accounts at the same time, is it possible to VNC into the account that is not currently the "active" one? or is there any other way to achieve this? (basically being remotely logged on to my account while someone else is sitting at the comp in their account)11:23
SeveasIFRFLYR, on which port?11:23
IFRFLYRSeveas, wicked high ones, like 35648, 3564*11:23
rrc23Hello, I want to configure my monitor for 800*600 , and when I try do doing via the System>Preferences>Screen resolution   it is blocked at 640*400. How can I change it. My monitor supports 800*600 resolution. Thank you11:23
holycowvnc?11:23
remyforbes777im sorry does firestarter use a gui, i said deliad lol11:23
holycowScislaC, just install xnest11:23
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IFRFLYRremyforbes777 yes it does.11:24
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SeveasIFRFLYR, that is just the data from the website coming back to you!11:24
holycowScislaC, and log in using that to as many accounts as you want11:24
yuachtrrc23, your xconfig11:24
IFRFLYRRight. I wonder why Firestarter has all of a sudden stopped allowing this, Seveas!11:24
remyforbes777ifrflyr: does it need a gui11:24
SeveasIFRFLYR, probably because you told it to ;)11:24
tonkarSeveas: i just tried to disconnect the hdd wich i need and it don't wanted to start11:24
IFRFLYRDOH!11:24
IFRFLYR:)11:24
rrc23where is xconfig?I am completely new. What part of the menu is it in?11:24
tonkarany idea?11:24
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svennglennDoes anyone know how I can set Anjuta to compile my python sourcecode?11:25
pgidzsvennglenn you don't need to compile python source code11:25
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GNULinuxersvennglenn: COMPILE PYTHON!11:26
ScislaCthanks holycow11:26
nikkiapgavin: and its done automatically anyway11:26
svennglennHow do I run my python sourcecode in Anjuta then?11:26
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pgidzsvennglenn you can run it from the CLI11:26
IFRFLYRSeveas - and why only google?11:27
GNULinuxersvennglenn: python is high level, object oriented, interpreted language with dynamic semantic11:27
IFRFLYRAll other sites work just peachy.11:27
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nikkiaGNULinuxer: no, its a bytecode interpreted language11:27
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tonkari read somewhere that i should to add this lines i think to menu.lst?11:27
IFRFLYRI checked and I had not told firestarter to single out google.c11:27
GNULinuxernikkia: Not always11:27
tonkarrootnoverify (hd1,0)11:27
tonkarchainloader +111:27
tonkarmakeactive11:27
tonkarboot11:27
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GNULinuxernikkia: only when you import a module11:27
gilvijoin#ubuntu-es11:27
nikkiaGNULinuxer: its always compiled to bytecode internally11:27
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nikkiaGNULinuxer: the only exception is *sometimes* when you use evaluation11:28
Seveasthe bytecode just isn't always saved :)11:28
nikkiaSeveas: exactly11:28
ateveserm GAIM or other messenger do not download the AIM or ICQ contactlists anymore. could this be an OS or connection error?11:28
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svennglennpgidz: I want to write my code in Anjuta and then run it in Python via anjuta11:28
nikkiaSeveas: its like how many lisp implementations compile to machine code, just don't save it11:28
GNULinuxernikkia: thanks for the info ...11:28
deliadremyforbes777- which pkg to download from the site?11:28
nikkiaGNULinuxer: you actually have to work pretty hard to make python run as a pure interpreter :)11:29
GNULinuxernikkia: hehe11:29
zenlunaticwhats the difference between abiword-gnome and abiword11:29
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nikkiathere are certain code structures that cause it, when you evaluate them as strings11:29
nikkia(might be stuff that involves if/then/else11:30
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pgidzsvennglenn why would you want to run it via anjuta11:30
tonkarseveas, what you think that will happen if i execute fdisk /mbr from an bootdisk?11:30
nikkiaas i said earlier, i like python, its just not fast enough for some stuff *sigh*11:30
remyforbes777does firestarter replace iptables11:31
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metzenremyforbes777: firestarted uses iptables11:31
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matt__Hey, does anyone know what this means and or how to fix it?11:31
matt__PCI: Probing PCI hardware11:31
matt__PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)11:31
matt__PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX/ICH [8086/7110]  at 0000:00:07.011:31
matt__PCI: IRQ 0 for device 0000:00:02.0 doesn't match PIRQ mask - try pci=usepirqmask11:31
matt__PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 0000:00:02.011:31
matt__PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 0000:00:03.011:31
matt__PCI: IRQ 0 for device 0000:00:02.1 doesn't match PIRQ mask - try pci=usepirqmask11:31
matt__PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 0000:00:02.111:32
matt__PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 0000:00:05.011:32
matt__11:32
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Seveasmatt__, you are dead11:32
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SeveasI warned you before not to paste in here11:32
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metzenmatt__: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:32
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naliothmuffled AND rolled out the door11:32
naliothwow11:32
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Seveasyeah, silencing is faster :)11:33
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catchI'm trying to set up wine, I have an dual boot to windows XP. I'm being told that I need to remove a Resolution line from the config file and edit the registry with an entry about log pixels. Does anyone know what a reasonable value for the log pixels is?11:34
catchgoogle wasn't a lot of help11:34
yuachtcatch, why do you wanna remove the resolution problem?11:34
yuacht*line11:34
yuachtnot problem :p11:34
holycowcatch, that doesn't sound right11:34
holycowinfact11:34
catchyuacht : because it tells me to :)11:35
holycowi wouldn't be doing any of that11:35
holycowwhat tells you to?11:35
yuachtword11:35
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catchwine does, when i run it with several different programs11:35
catchand it wont start11:35
deliadhow to install the firestarter11:35
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holycowsudo apt-get install firestarter11:35
yuachtdeliad, sudo apt-get install firestarter11:35
yuachtahhh almost beat you there holycow  :D11:36
holycow:)11:36
holycow<-- l33tcow11:36
holycow-_-11:36
yuachtcows are cool11:36
Seveasmoo11:36
tonkarlook, i'm trying to remove phisically one of my hdd but i have problems with booting windows, i think it is because grub. What do you think?11:37
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catchdo either of you have a decent config? the auto one doesn't seem to have done a great job of it11:37
remyforbes777can you use firestarter on the command line11:37
Seveasremyforbes777, no, on the commandline you use iptables :)11:37
Burgundaviaremyforbes777, you can use iptables on the command line11:37
remyforbes777ok11:37
naliothdeliad: check this out http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13011:37
naliothremyforbes777: you can check the above URL, also11:38
tonkarquit11:38
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catchdo you guys use a paste bin or anything so i can show you the error message wine is fiving me?11:40
yuachthttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:41
yuachtin topic11:41
yuacht:=11:41
pointwoodhave ubuntu stopped making delicious desktop wallpapers?11:41
Seveaspointwood, yes11:41
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pointwoodwhy?11:41
pointwood:(11:42
Seveasdunno, there was no announcement11:42
pointwood:(11:43
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naliothpointwood: that project is probably open for maintaining/packaging11:44
pointwood:D11:44
naliothSeveas could take the calendar project over, but he only likes panoramas of IBM Fab 1211:44
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LinuxJonesHello11:45
Seveas*drool*11:45
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josephAnyone know my mpg123 doesn't work on ubuntu?11:46
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catchyuacht or holycow : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/311 is the error I get from wine11:46
Seveastry mpg32111:46
Seveasmpg123 wants to use alsa11:47
josephThat doesn't work either...11:47
Seveastry esdplay then :)11:47
josephplus, i need 123 for asterisk11:47
catchI get other errors if i try to start other things, I'm wanting, mainly to run picassa but don't have that installed to test with atm, but would also be nice to get other stuff working11:47
Seveastry mpg123 -o ed11:47
Seveastry mpg123 -o esd11:47
josephhuh... why wouldn't chuser work? it doesn't find it.11:47
holycowcatch, may i suggest trying jabber before wasting any more time on this?11:47
holycowit has support for yaho, msn, and other services?11:48
BlissexSeveas: it is usually better to recommend 'mpg321' than 'mpg123'11:48
SeveasBlissex, i know...11:48
SeveasBut look at what he wrote..11:48
zythSeveas, what, I can't get my ubuntupr0n anymores?!11:48
metzenis catch trying to run yahoo messenger on linux?11:48
BlissexSeveas: as you said above, but dont encourage him11:48
josephI keCan't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)ep getting11:48
josephWhen I run mpg321 I get   Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)11:48
yuachtcatch: GAIM works well too11:48
catchI'm not trying to run messenger, it's just an example of the error I'm getting11:48
Seveasjoseph, you need to run with with the -o esd switch11:48
Blissexjoseph: you dont' need 'mpg123' for Asterisk. Just create a symbolic link from 'mpg321' as 'mpg123', it is totally compatible.11:49
josephI did...11:49
catchI amready running GAIM11:49
catchand prefer it11:49
zythcatch, http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html11:49
SeveasBlissex, that is what the mpg321 package does actually ;)11:49
josephBlissex, I can't get mpg321 to work either... lol11:49
metzenwhat do you need yahoo for?11:49
Blissexjoseph: probably your sound card does not support hw sharing./11:49
josephhmmm11:49
SeveasBlissex, that is not needed11:49
SeveasUbuntu uses esd11:49
catchoh FFS I AM NOT WANTING TO RUN YAHOO I AM ONLY DOING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT'S GOING WRONG WITH WINE11:49
Seveasmpg321 can do that too11:49
josephso how do I unshare my hardware?11:49
naliothzyth: take over the project11:49
yuachtcatch, lol, no need to yell :)11:49
Blissexjoseph: consider reading carefully the sharing and app configuration sections of http://tinyurl.com/4ogk211:49
Seveascatch, please watch your CAPS11:50
jo<option name="V4LDevice" value="/dev/video1"/> for tvtime on myn pc11:50
jo0 is webcam11:50
BlissexSeveas: 'esd' is used if the app is configured to use it :-)11:50
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SeveasBlissex, that does not apply...11:50
josephargh... I can run multiple audio and video streams with things like xmmms, but mpg321 doesn't want to work.11:50
yuachtcatch, try installing wine from cvs11:50
zythnalioth, I lack suitable models ;)11:50
SeveasOn ubuntu hoary you cannot use alsa directly11:50
Seveasjoseph, did you read what I wrote?11:50
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zythcatch, the wine debs from winehq work fine, I even have world of warcraft running 100% fine.  You might try those.11:51
cmathesonjoseph: install mpg321 esd or pipe it through esddsp11:51
holycowcatch, i'm sorry i don't know how to regedit a wine install, it sounded when you first described the problem as if someone gave you some deliberately bad advice11:51
josephseveas, I did... but I am pretty sure it can share because I use multiple sound output programs at once.11:51
josephcmath?11:51
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Seveasjoseph, did you try mpg321 -o esd11:51
josephISeveas, I did.11:51
holycowdidn't want you to hose a partition or some such11:51
Seveasah ok11:51
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josephCrud, I hate to ditch this and go back to mandrake... sheesh...11:51
Seveasthat works fine here...11:51
Seveasjoseph, are you running KDE perhaps?11:51
josephnot that I know of.11:52
catchzyth : cheers I'll try that, if I were to PM you my email addy would it be possible for you to send me a copy of your config file?11:52
zythcatch, I can toss it up on pastebin if you want, or I could email it to you, whichever11:52
Seveasjoseph, what does `pidof esd` say?11:52
catchpatebin would be cool11:52
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zythk, one sec11:53
joseph699211:53
Seveasok, so it is running...11:53
terjejoseph, mpg123 works fine for me on ubuntu11:53
cmathesonjoseph: if all else fails just run mpg321 | esddsp11:53
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terjeI just installed it and it's playing some stuff right now.11:53
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cmathesonjoseph: yeah, you could install the mpg123-esd package... although i hear that the license is more evil or something like that (could be here-say)11:53
josephharumph...11:53
cmathesoner, hear-say?11:53
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terjejoseph, did you install using apt-get?11:54
terjeperhaps you're missing a dep.11:54
josephterje, yes.11:54
terjeeh.11:54
josephI did apt-get install mpg32111:54
vinuxAnybody know when ubuntu is going to bring gnomebaker back?11:54
terjeis there an error msg?11:54
Seveasjoseph, so did I and it works smoothly...11:54
zythcatch, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/31211:54
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josephYup   Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)11:54
yuachtvinux, what do you mean, bring back?11:54
terjeah11:54
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vinuxyuacht I cant' find it in apt-get or synaptic11:55
zythcatch, is that the config you needed?11:55
yuachtvinux, hmm, i can11:55
vinuxyuacht, really? try it now11:55
Seveasjoseph, try mpg321 -o alsa11:55
zyth!repositories11:55
ubotuhmm... repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:55
yuachtvinux, i found it in the universe repo and i reloaded 2 secs ago :=)11:55
josephSeveas, it looks like it is playing, but no sound is coming out.11:55
terjeis the volume up? :)11:56
josephlol... yeah...11:56
vinuxyuacht, hey send me your source list :)11:56
josephWait... for alsa... uh... huh...11:56
terjeyou laugh, but I was not getting sound for a couple of days before I realized I had my volume down.11:56
terjelol11:56
naliothSeveas: please send vinux the "source"11:56
Seveasjoseph, it is hanging, not playing :)11:56
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Seveasbut I justt wanted to know whether that works11:57
yuachtvinux, it's simply the usual file with universe/multiverse/backports enabled11:57
josephVolume is up.11:57
Seveasvinux: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3811:57
josephseveas, I think so.11:57
vinuxyuacht, well maybe I just did it wrong11:57
Seveasjoseph, mpg321 -o arts11:57
Seveasdoes that work perhaps?11:57
josephSeveas, nope.11:58
leoim still having trouble installing cdrecord properly11:58
josephI get all my other players to work ok.11:58
josephJust this one.11:58
vinuxk thanks Seveas and yuacht11:59
leoall i have is a text file11:59
leoand some other text file11:59
pgidzleo how are you trying to install it11:59
yuachtvinux, anytime11:59
leoi got it from a website11:59
terjejoseph, perhaps: apt-get update && apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad11:59
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pgidzleo why not apt-get it instead11:59
terjeI needed that to get mp3's working on my box.11:59
josephgstreamer is working fine.11:59
catchzyth : cheers that's great :)12:00
leobcause i don't understand what to write12:00

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