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[12:39] <Riddell> uniq: how's it going?
[12:40] <uniq> installing. livecd is slow when it comes to installing new packages and things like that :)
[12:40] <uniq> that's why the compiling has been so slow.
[12:41] <uniq> i just don't have time to re-install and fix everything for my dad again.. that's why i'm doing it this stupid way.
[12:42] <uniq> i'll give him the machine friday. so no time.
[12:42] <Riddell> you're very kind to your father, giving him an amd64 and aa
[12:42] <uniq> oh.. he is paying alright :)
[12:43] <uniq> a little.. like 50% of it's value or sometihng :)
[12:44] <uniq> i'm thinking of buying a new amd64.. probably a desktop.. or maybe changing my server from p4 to amd64. 
[12:50] <uniq> kio-apt for testing if you want: http://frode.kde.no/ubuntu/kio-apt/
[12:51] <uniq> i'm thinking of replacing the KDE+debian logo in the upper left corner on the search page. with a kubutu logo.
[12:52] <Riddell> I like how frode.kde.no has a kubuntu favicon :)
[12:52] <uniq> i changed the server from sarge to ubuntu yesterday :)
[12:52] <uniq> i like to think of it as kubuntu, without kde :)
[12:54] <Riddell> both the logo and the icon should be kubuntu for kio-apt
[12:54] <uniq> yes.
[12:54] <uniq> it needs some kubuntu branding.
[12:59] <uniq> do you have a logo that could fit in the upper left corner? 
[01:00] <Riddell> not to hand but KubuntuArtwork has the logo
[01:00] <uniq> ok. thanks.
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[01:15] <Riddell> "kubuntufied by Frode"  nice word :)
[01:15] <uniq> :)
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[01:20] <uniq> hmm.. what about just removing the whole blue thing on top of the apt:/ page, and add the "[logo]  kubuntu" png from KubuntuArtwork ?
[01:20] <uniq> would that be a simple-and-lazy solution? 
[01:21] <Riddell> uniq: well there's text that needs to go there
[01:21] <uniq> right.
[01:21] <Riddell> but if you can fit both in and it still looks sensible that's all good
[01:22] <uniq> i was just thiking it's probably enought blue.. not everyone uses the default blue theme.
[01:22] <Riddell> uniq: I get a compile error list.cpp
[01:22] <Riddell> parsers.h:19: error: extra ';'
[01:23] <uniq> where? 
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[01:23] <uniq> ah.. found it.
[01:24] <uniq> breezy? 
[01:26] <uniq> i've been building it on hoary.
[01:26] <Riddell> gcc 4 will catch you like that
[01:27] <uniq> yeah.. i'll make it compile on breezy too.
[01:27] <uniq> did you look at the changes i made to kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-default-settings? 
[01:28] <Riddell> uniq: nope, where are they?
[01:29] <uniq> http://frode.kde.no/ubuntu/
[01:29] <Riddell> don't see them
[01:29] <uniq> under breezy
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[01:31] <uniq> after you've checked them they should be uploaded to breezy. imho. kubuntu-desktop in breezy leaves ksmserver out. meaning kde doesn't show up in the sessions list.. among other things.
[01:31] <uniq> and the kubuntu-default-setting is to make kuser start adding users at uid and gid 1000 instead of 500. (marked as major in bugzilla) i'm looking for the bug-number now.
[01:32] <uniq> #11854
[02:16] <Mez> uniq.... it adds them at 500 for me
[02:17] <Mez> but my original user was added as 1000 (though I did edit the number to make my second user 1001)
[02:17] <uniq> mez: the default-settings doesn't override your users kuserrc
[02:18] <Mez> ??
[02:18] <Mez> when i use kuser - it tries to add them from 500.
[02:18] <Mez> my default user Id for my user created on install was 1000
[02:18] <Mez> so i manually changed the second user to 1001
[02:18] <Mez> mez:x:1000:1000:Mez:/home/mez:/bin/bash
[02:18] <Mez> emily:x:1001:500:Emily Davies:/home/emily:/bin/bash
[02:18] <Mez> ah
[02:19] <Mez> lol @ gid for emiluy
[02:19] <Mez> emily *
[02:19] <uniq> remove /root/.kde/share/config/kuserrc, install my kubuntu-default-settings from http://frode.kde.no/ubuntu/breezy/ and try to add a user.
[02:19] <Riddell> there was a girl at my school called Emily Davies
[02:20] <Mez> really Riddell? well I doubt it's the same one, my Emily's not scottish :D
[02:21] <Mez> uniq - my kuserrc just has the following in ti
[02:21] <Mez> [MainWindow] 
[02:21] <Mez> Height 768=769
[02:21] <Mez> Width 1024=1025
[02:21] <Riddell> Mez: ask her if she ran off with Lumpy.  just to be sure
[02:22] <Mez> or, easier - Riddell - is this hwer
[02:22] <Mez> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/18525171/
[02:24] <Riddell> no not her
[02:27] <cartel_> Mez shes cute
[02:27] <cartel_> wd
[02:29] <uniq> mez: did you install my kubuntu-default-settings .deb ? - i still get gid and uid 1000+ with a kuserrc with the info you pasted.
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[02:29] <cartel_> but if all linux developers had cute girlfriends i doubt we'd have very good distros, since gfs are very good at sucking up free time
[02:45] <uniq> riddell: kde 3.4.1 installed nicely on amd64. and kde started fine too. haven't played arround very much yet though.
[02:45] <uniq> i really have to go to bed now. 0245 already. work in 6 hours.
[02:46] <uniq> good night.
[03:32] <Mez> lol @ cartel :D Mark shuttleworth has a cute gf :D
[03:33] <Mez> cartel_, *
[03:33] <Mez> hehe :D and I'm  glad to say so do i :D
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[08:50] <froud> African greetings
[08:53] <froud> where do I find a list of targets for Kubuntu so I can start with Kubuntu Release Notes?
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[10:46] <froud-work> Is it safe to upgrade Kubuntu hoary to breezy yet ? :-)
[10:57] <haggai> froud-work: only if you can boot into console or reach the machine over the network, and run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ; sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart' if X doesn't come up after the upgrade
[10:57] <froud-work> :-) Ok so that xorg stuff is still broken
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[01:29] <\sh> *censoredswear*
[01:29] <\sh> why can't they release a bloody snapshot with an updated changelog
[01:32] <Riddell> \sh: who?
[01:32] <\sh> python-kde
[01:33] <\sh> they released a new snapshot..no changelog update nothing..and the patches are also not inside
[01:35] <Riddell> evil
[01:36] <\sh> that means, I'm using the new snapshot, applying the patches again, and uploading it to ubuntu, again not nice, but if this is working correctly, i don't mind
[01:38] <\sh> Riddell: btw..i patched a bit of kdepim ;)
[01:41] <Riddell> \sh: your kdepim patch is number 2 on my todo list below uniq's ksmserver fix
[01:41] <Riddell> \sh: did we get anything uploaded with review day?
[01:42] <\sh> Riddell: well, i think I didn't do it correctly, cause I didn't have the two arrows in my akregator..there were no toolbar actions in akregator_part.rc
[01:42] <\sh> Riddell: dunno...i have to check
[01:43] <\sh> I'm too busy right now with some other stuff (office)...and trying to do everything, is not possible ;)
[01:53] <Riddell> \sh: can you give me an account on REVU?
[01:53] <\sh> Riddell: siretart can..send him your gpg key , username is email addr, and a password
[01:54] <\sh> Riddell: i'm trying to move REVU to my box right now, and implementing the test build process
[01:54] <\sh> and this tool is really nice, for more ideas ;)
[01:55] <Riddell> froud-work: not sure what you mean by targets but the spec if on the UDU wiki
[01:55] <Riddell> s/if/is/
[01:55] <\sh> "Kubuntu KDE Packaging Day -> Package your favorite KDE app, which is not in Kubuntu, and send them to us" ,-)
[01:57] <uniq> hello.
[01:58] <uniq> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8768 - NOTABUG? 
[02:00] <Riddell> uniq: konqueror overrides the desktop/file manager icons size
[02:00] <uniq> i know, but it's not a bug? 
[02:00] <Riddell> seems to be a usability issue
[02:00] <Riddell> if the kcontrol module says file manager icon size then I'd expect that to set file manager icon size
[02:01] <Riddell> I guess it should be reported to KDE
[02:05] <uniq> ok. should i make a bugreport on bugs.kde.org? 
[02:07] <\sh> Riddell: i will try to get my main upload right for kde stuff in the next few weeks...
[02:10] <\sh> rb
[02:10] <\sh> brb
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[02:11] <Riddell> uniq: yeah that would be good
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[02:19] <uniq> we should get kubuntu into the list of distributions on the bugs.kde.org :)
[02:25] <Riddell> uniq: I've asked, they need us to ship with kdelibs ./configure --disto=kubuntu which hoary isn't
[02:26] <uniq> ah. ok.
[02:29] <uniq> now, bug reported to upstream. should i change it to UPSTREAM or leave it as new? 
[02:30] <uniq> i'll change it to upstream, we cant fix everything.
[02:31] <Riddell> uniq: yes upstream, thanks
[02:32] <Riddell> uniq: and put in the URL of the upstream bugzilla entry
[02:32] <uniq> doing so. ops.. spelinmiiiisakes in my upstream bugreport.. ohwel. :)
[02:35] <uniq> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11130
[02:35] <uniq> something for kubuntu-default-setting in breezy.
[02:37] <Riddell> uniq: yep
[02:37] <Riddell> uniq: want to investigate or shall I?
[02:37] <uniq> i can fix that.
[02:37] <uniq> you can do more advanced stuff :)
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[03:36] <JRe> uniq: the news reader is akregator ?
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[03:37] <Riddell> JRe: I think it means KNode
[03:37] <JRe> Riddell: mm so in that case i can't reproduce this bug
[03:38] <Riddell> I don't have knode showing by default in Kontact, I had to turn it on
[03:38] <JRe> Riddell: ha okay ;)
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[03:38] <JRe> Riddell: it was a simlpe bug ;)
[03:39] <uniq> riddell: new kubuntu-default-settings at http://frode.kde.no/ubuntu/breezy
[03:40] <JRe> uniq: wow that was fast!
[03:40] <uniq> works here.. tested on 2 clean and new accounts.
[03:40] <uniq> jre: it's a two-line fix :)
[03:40] <JRe> uniq: )
[03:40] <JRe> :)
[03:40] <uniq> please test.
[03:40] <uniq> the package will install cleanly on hoary too.
[03:41] <uniq> riddell: and.. i've fixed the compile issues with kio-apt. new version is at the same location.
[03:41] <uniq> that's breezy/
[03:42] <uniq> just need to figure out how to add images to a diff.. and it'll be branded too.
[03:43] <Riddell> uniq: that is always a pain
[03:43] <Riddell> you need to uuencode things
[03:44] <uniq> ugh.
[03:44] <Riddell> then depending on your patch system you can just uudecode directly in debian/rules and copy the file to the correct place
[03:44] <Riddell> uniq: or you could just use the SVG file
[03:44] <uniq> i use dpatch and cdbs+debhelper.mk
[03:44] <uniq> no.. actually.. no cdbs for this package.
[03:45] <Riddell> probably need to uudecode and cp (and rm it with clean)
[03:46] <uniq> ok.
[03:47] <uniq> anyone got a clue on how to fix the 'administrator mode' problem in control center? 
[03:47] <JRe> uniq: mmm what is this problem?
[03:47] <uniq> one of kubuntus major problems atm.
[03:48] <JRe> uniq: there is a bug report i can read?
[03:48] <JRe> uniq: okay got the report
[03:49] <uniq> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8681
[03:50] <JRe> uniq: it does not do that anymore with the 3.4.1 packages of hoary, right ?
[03:51] <uniq> yes it does.
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[03:56] <JRe> mmm that work fine for me
[03:56] <uniq> hi froud, sorry i don't have your package ready yet. i'll resume my work on it now.
[03:57] <froud> uniq: np, when you are ready
[03:57] <uniq> jre: yes, on my machine too. but at my kubuntu laptop at work it's not working.
[03:58] <JRe> uniq: mmm strange
[03:58] <uniq> whaat. now it works on that laptop too.
[03:58] <uniq> i opend 'visudo' and closed it just saving the file with no changes.
[04:00] <uniq> ahh.. figured it out.
[04:00] <uniq> if i deleted /root/.kde it won't work. stops at 'Loading...'
[04:00] <uniq> if i start kcontrol as root once. it works every time.
[04:01] <uniq> can you confirm this? 
[04:02] <JRe> i try
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[04:03] <JRe> hum deleted /root/.kde
[04:03] <JRe> don't work
[04:04] <uniq> humn.. ok.. then i didn't figure it out.
[04:04] <JRe> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-jre" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[04:04] <uniq> i just got that too.
[04:06] <JRe> uniq: i confirm everything you said :)
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[04:06] <JRe> uniq: it does not even prompt for the root password before working now
[04:06] <uniq> same for me.
[04:07] <JRe> uniq: do you think it's a KDE related problem ?
[04:08] <JRe> uniq: it seems to come from the kdecache, no?
[04:09] <uniq> don't know. because that error was when starting kcontrol from sudo.
[04:11] <JRe> yes
[04:11] <uniq> i think it's kdesu
[04:12] <uniq> when i try to run 'kdesu kcontrol' from the commandline it doesn't ask for my password.
[04:12] <uniq> just standing there waiting.
[04:16] <uniq> ok. now it works again.
[04:16] <JRe> kdesu -u root kcontrol does not asked me a passwird too
[04:17] <uniq> i think kdesu is confused by the fact that sudo keeps the password for 15 min.
[04:18] <JRe> we have to chrono the bug ;)
[04:18] <uniq> if you try to add: timestamp_timeout=0 to the end of the line starting with Defaults, in 'visudo'
[04:18] <uniq> and then try to reproduce.
[04:21] <JRe> uniq: how now it works fine!
[04:21] <uniq> can anyone else confirm this?
[04:23] <JRe> uniq: i'll try tonight to see if that bug happens also on debian
[04:24] <uniq> ok.
[04:24] <uniq> riddell: still here? 
[04:26] <JRe> uniq: i don't see this kind of bug in bugs.debian.org
[04:26] <uniq> They don't use sudo.
[04:26] <uniq> and su doesn't keep passwords.
[04:27] <JRe> uniq: yes and unstable have 3.3
[04:29] <uniq> i posted a comment on bugzilla, hoping for some feedback and testing.
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[04:52] <Riddell> uniq: hi
[04:53] <uniq> riddell: i announced amd64 packages on the kubuntu-users list. fyi. 
[04:53] <uniq> riddell: hi.
[04:56] <uniq> riddell: forgot what i was going to ask. sorry to bother you.
[04:58] <Riddell> :)
[04:59] <uniq> fyi, i've changed 11130 to PENDINGUPLOAD. (kontact defaults)
[05:01] <uniq> same goes for 11854  (kuser uid/gid)
[05:01] <uniq> it's all kubuntu-default-settings
[05:02] <Riddell> I've already uploaded kuser, you can mark that as done
[05:02] <uniq> kuser? you mean kubuntu-default-settings? 
[05:03] <Riddell> yes
[05:03] <uniq> ok. i just updated the package. then the version number needs to be changed.
[05:22] <uniq> riddell: 0.2 at http://frode.kde.no/ubuntu/breezy/kubuntu-default-settings/
[05:23] <JRe> anyone now if MIT license is compatible with GPL ?
[05:23] <Riddell> JRe: depends which one
[05:24] <JRe> Riddell: the X11 one
[05:24] <Riddell> JRe: again, depends which one :)
[05:24] <Riddell> JRe: generally yes but there are versions with silly advertising caluses
[05:25] <Riddell> clauses
[05:26] <uniq> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html
[05:28] <JRe> Riddell, uniq: okay thanks!
[05:30] <m-foxela> hi, anything new on the missing files in kdepim-wizards on http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341
[05:30] <m-foxela> ?
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[05:34] <Riddell> m-foxela: I'm building fixed packages now
[05:34] <Riddell> just for you
[05:35] <m-foxela> thank you :) 
[05:35] <m-foxela> wanna try kolab 2.0
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[05:58] <Riddell> uniq: kio-apt looks good
[05:58] <Riddell> uniq: add the names and descriptions of the patches to changelog
[05:58] <Riddell> uniq: add the homepage to control 
[05:59] <uniq> ok, thanks for looking at it.
[06:00] <Riddell> uniq: mention that you added libxi-dev in changelog too
[06:00] <uniq> will do.
[06:00] <Riddell> uniq: add a kubuntu favicon and web page logo and it'll be sorted
[06:01] <uniq> yes, master :)
[06:02] <uniq> i'm thinking maybe we should add a 16x16 kubuntu icon to kdebase-data or something.
[06:02] <uniq> could be useful for other apps too.
[06:02] <uniq> for kio-apt i will add a kubuntu 16x16 icon named kioapt
[06:02] <Riddell> I'm probably changing the System icon to have a wee kubuntu logo in it
[06:02] <uniq> nice :)
[06:04] <Riddell> did pef finish his datakiosk package?
[06:05] <uniq> not as far as i know.
[06:05] <uniq> he found a few things to fix last time he was here.
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[07:14] <m-fox> huhu
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[08:05] <uniq> hi froud. I'm working on the kubuntu-docs package now.
[08:06] <uniq> got a question. should ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com be listed as maintainer? 
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[08:08] <m-fox> Hi, the new kdepim packages work fine with kolab2. Riddell, thank you for compiling and uploding.
[08:11] <uniq> i'll say thanks for the feed back on behalf of riddell (if he's not around?)
[08:12] <uniq> froud: ping.
[08:12] <froud> pong
[08:12] <uniq> hi.
[08:12] <uniq> can you read a few lines back please? a question for you.
[08:12] <froud> maintainer, yes
[08:12] <froud> ubuntu-doc@ is fine
[08:13] <uniq> ok. great.
[08:15] <uniq> is there a way you would like to separate the docs into -faq, -installation, etc?
[08:15] <uniq> or should it all go into one package? 
[08:16] <froud> Hmm, not really just one package
[08:16] <froud> what have you included
[08:16] <uniq> I included everything in build/kde for now.
[08:17] <froud> Ah ha, I see Ok we will only package some stuff
[08:17] <froud> here comes the list
[08:17] <uniq> ok.. it's ready.
[08:17] <uniq> (the list)
[08:17] <froud> user guide, install guide, quick guide, release notes
[08:18] <froud> faq will not go in (maybe later)
[08:19] <froud> uniq: I actually question the sanity of doing install guide
[08:19] <uniq> i questioned it too.
[08:19] <froud> since user will have it installed
[08:19] <uniq> yes.
[08:19] <froud> but
[08:19] <uniq> and it is huge.. with the pictures and all.
[08:19] <froud> it does make sense to put it on the root of the cd in a readme folder :-)
[08:20] <uniq> sure.
[08:20] <froud> uniq: actually it is better as a PDF
[08:20] <uniq> yes.
[08:20] <froud> I can add a build for pdf
[08:20] <froud> but that will require apache fop
[08:20] <froud> its ok for me
[08:20] <froud> but I dunno about everyone
[08:20] <uniq> hmm. i don't think we need it in the package. we need it for the cd :)
[08:21] <froud> yes, what do you suggest?
[08:21] <froud> I can do the PDF and somebody can add it to the cd
[08:21] <uniq> would be great.
[08:22] <froud> OK I will create a FOP transformation
[08:22] <froud> but will keep it commented out in the make file
[08:22] <froud> since not everyones system will be setup for fop
[08:23] <uniq> I edit the makefile anyway. for the package.
[08:23] <froud> Hmm you do
[08:23] <uniq> or.. did i.. 
[08:23] <froud> do we need to change the Makefile
[08:23] <uniq> it'll be a patch in any case.
[08:24] <froud> why not just add it to our svn
[08:24] <froud> makes sense that we have a package make target
[08:25] <uniq> oh.. i just added clean: \n rm -rf $(KBASE)
[08:25] <uniq> and. 
[08:25] <uniq> changed: '
[08:25] <uniq> XSLTPROC=/usr/bin/xsltproc
[08:25] <uniq> to  XSLTPROC=$(shell which xsltproc)
[08:26] <froud> OK, is it the XSLTPROC constant needed
[08:26] <froud> surely the system should just find it
[08:26] <froud> its in the path
[08:27] <froud> no biggie
[08:28] <froud> so what will the procedure be to ensure that the PDF gets onto the CD
[08:28] <uniq> i'll add a maketarget named 'kdeb' to make only the docs that should be included in the package.
[08:29] <froud> OK that will make it easy for all
[08:29] <uniq> mail the pdf or a link to the pdf to riddell.
[08:29] <froud> I will add it to lnix/~froud
[08:29] <uniq> ok :)
[08:30] <froud> but near release he is bound to forget :-)
[08:30] <uniq> we'll have to remind him then :)
[08:30] <uniq> how big will the pdf be? 
[08:30] <froud> dunno, but much smaller that the current payload
[08:30] <froud> s/that/than
[08:31] <uniq> about kubuntu should be in the package, or? 
[08:31] <froud> oops yes
[08:31] <froud> :-)
[08:32] <uniq> so, user guide, quick guide, release notes, about kubuntu
[08:32] <froud> user guide, install guide, quick guide, release notes, about kubuntu
[08:32] <uniq> that's the list.
[08:32] <froud> snap
[08:32] <uniq> :)
[08:32] <froud> user guide, quick guide, release notes, about kubuntu
[08:32] <froud> good
[08:32] <uniq> ok.
[08:32] <uniq> install guide goes on the cd. not in the package.
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[08:33] <uniq> do that :)
[08:33] <froud> yep
[09:06] <hunger> Much happening with kubuntu recently! nice, guys.
[09:17] <uniq> riddell: we should consider signing the kubuntu.org packages somehow. lots of people are questioning the issue.
[10:34] <froud> uniq: i probably should not out the pdf in build/kde/kubuntu-install/C right?
[10:35] <uniq> well. why not? 
[10:39] <froud> uniq: if I do it will be packaged won't it?
[10:39] <uniq> no.
[10:39] <uniq> not if you make it it's own makefile target.
[10:40] <froud> Hmm true, OK payload is 570.5 KB :-) as PDF
[10:40] <uniq> nice. then space isn't a reason for not including it on the cd :)
[10:41] <froud> consider it is not complete so this may change
[10:42] <uniq> sure. but it won't grow to 50M :)
[10:42] <froud> no, not chance :-)
[10:43] <froud> but we should also remove the instal images once we have a PDF
[10:43] <froud> that will reduce the size of the package
[10:44] <froud> as you can see, the docs are designed to reuse images
[10:44] <froud> so all images get cp to images/
[10:44] <froud> including the ones from the install guide
[10:45] <froud> there is an image list file so we can easily id the files and remove them
[10:45] <uniq> i've seen it, it's great.
[10:46] <froud> do you want to be able to build the pdf
[10:46] <uniq> would be nice to have a target in the makefile.
[10:46] <froud> svn up
[10:47] <froud> but it wont work without a toolchain setup
[10:47] <uniq> can the packages needed easily be apt-get'ed? 
[10:47] <froud> you need java, apache fop, saxon
[10:47] <froud> this is my classpath
[10:47] <froud> echo $CLASSPATH
[10:47] <froud> :/usr/java/saxon-6.5.3/saxon.jar:/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/extensions/saxon651.jar:/usr/java/fop-0.20.5/build/fop.jar:/usr/java/fop-0.20.5/lib/batik.jar:/usr/java/fop-0.20.5/lib/xalan-2.4.1.jar:/usr/java/fop-0.20.5/lib/xercesImpl-2.2.1.jar:/usr/java/fop-0.20.5/lib/JimiProClasses.jar:/usr/java/fop-0.20.5/lib/avalon-framework-cvs-20020806.jar
[10:48] <uniq> ah.. ok.. then it's not "possible" to automate it.. 
[10:48] <uniq> for a package.. that is.
[10:48] <froud> Oh and JimiProClasses.jar must be downloaded from sun
[10:49] <froud> no there is no easy install
[10:49] <froud> :-(
[10:50] <froud> I think you can apt-get sunjava
[10:50] <uniq> not on all architectures. 
[10:50] <uniq> i'm on powerpc and i can only get ibm java 1.4.. 
[10:51] <froud> geeze I wish k/ubuntu has proper java integration
[10:59] <froud> pdf of Kubuntu Install guide now available from http://www.lnix.net/~froud/
[11:03] <uniq> great.
[11:18] <uniq> and i have a .deb ready.
[11:18] <uniq> kubuntu-docs_0.1-0_all.deb :)
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[11:36] <uniq> froud: for the .desktop files in /usr/share/apps/khelpcenter/plugins/kubuntu - please leave out the Name[cc] = if they are blank.
[11:36] <uniq> users with that languagesetup will get blank names in khelpcenter :)
[11:38] <uniq> same goes for .directory
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[11:41] <hunger> Would it be possible to have both kde and gnome use /usr/share/backgrounds for their wallpapers? (or usr/share/wallpapers, whatever, just have them store their backgrounds in the same place, please.)
[11:46] <uniq> where are gnome storing their wallpapers? 
[11:46] <hunger> uniq: Gnome uses /usr/share/backgrounds.
[11:46] <uniq> ok.
[11:47] <hunger> uniq: And Installs only one (in two versions). KDE installs dozends.
[11:47] <hunger> OK, of to bed I go... see you tomorrow.
[11:50] <froud> uniq: ok off th ephone
[11:51] <froud> [23:29]  <uniq> froud: for the .desktop files in /usr/share/apps/khelpcenter/plugins/kubuntu - please leave out the Name[cc] = if they are blank.
[11:51] <froud> I think th eppl at i18n must translate those
[11:52] <froud> uniq: you want me to delete them in the interim?
[11:52] <froud> [23:12]  <uniq> and i have a .deb ready.
[11:52] <froud> [23:12]  <uniq> kubuntu-docs_0.1-0_all.deb :)
[11:52] <froud> uniq: can you give me the dir or a patch
[11:53] <uniq> sure. i'll tar the dir for you.
[11:53] <froud> ok you have my email
[11:53] <uniq> i want you to delete the lines with blank description.
[11:54] <froud> sure np
[11:57] <froud> uniq: svn commit -m * delete untranslated names aboutkubuntu.desktop kquickguide.desktop kreleasenotes.desktop kuserguide.desktop
[11:57] <uniq> dont forget .directory
[11:58] <froud> svn commit -m * delete untranslated names kubuntu/.directory
[11:58] <froud> all done :-)
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[12:01] <froud> ok I am calling it a night
[12:01] <froud> uniq:  I will get the tar in the morning
[12:01] <uniq> give it 2 mins and you get the dir and the makefile.
[12:01] <froud> ok
[12:03] <uniq> ok, uploaded to http://frode.kde.no/ubuntu/kubuntu-docs/
[12:04] <uniq> there, now you can go to sleep :)
[12:05] <froud> thanks