[12:01] in gconf, yes, in the interface, nope [12:01] thats what i was thinking. [12:02] lets people choose a "gnome default" or have a "distr-wizzy" icon theme [12:02] yop === Mez [~mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:02] also, I wanted to spilt up the g-p-p screen into an extra tab "advanced" - is that a good idea / bad idea? [12:03] seb128: ping [12:03] herzi: pong [12:03] seb128: any chance to get tag-writing enabled in ubuntu unstable's rhythmbox? [12:03] does anybody knows which PCI class represent which device? [12:03] i think PCI class 3 are graphic cards [12:04] hughsie, what do you want to put there ? [12:04] "Battery is critical when" and the 4 checkboxes [12:04] i'm sure other stuff will com up [12:04] herzi: I'll ping upstream, but according to teuf it doesn't work fine [12:04] herzi: I don't want to create a bug flood on that [12:05] seb128: of course === KaiL [KaiL@p548F630B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:05] i was just asking, because people in #rhythbox told me about a month ago that they are using it fine [12:05] hughsie, yes, why not, i see no problem with another tab [12:05] .oO(and someone will need to enable it by default to get the missing bits fixed) [12:05] herzi: really dependant of the kind of file you edit according to teuf [12:06] yeah [12:06] ok. I've found something: http://developer.apple.com/qa/hw/hw91.html [12:06] but before pushing on upstream I prefer to be sure than upstream will respond [12:06] sweet, consider it done. I can only see more options coming for differnt things, and I don;t want to blind the average user when the defaults would do fine for most cases [12:06] seb128: okay, i'll file a bug and add you and teuf to the cc [12:06] then we can discuss it there, better than irc [12:06] thanks [12:06] upstream bug? [12:07] i think it also gives the options tab a better look, it appears quite full currently [12:08] ogra: agreed. [12:08] seb128: ubuntu [12:08] maybe putting that upstream to discuss the default value for the configure option [12:09] okay [12:09] I would be happy to follow upstream on this [12:09] and both teuf and me are subscribed to the upstream bugzilla for it === pedro [~pedro@pc-200-74-115-216.megavia.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:24] ogra: I have a new tab, and a few more options - double clicking on the default icon will be able to perform an action too - good/bad? [12:25] sounds good to me, did you look into the HIG ? what does it say about doubleclick on tray icons ? [12:29] ogra: will check itnow === jlje [~agp@AMontpellier-152-1-80-126.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:30] hughsie, most applets are single click [12:32] Burgundavia, its a tray icon, no applet [12:32] again, single click [12:32] notification area icon, i guess that changes things [12:33] okay, i admit i can't think of any icons in the tray i double click [12:34] i only have gaim here and thats not really representative for good HIG but uses single click [12:35] okay, i'll add it, and see if i get shouted at. [12:35] yep :) [12:35] good plan [12:35] i can always remove the option from g-p-p and keep it as a gconf [12:35] beagle and blam also use signal click [12:35] right [12:36] so does update-manager, AFAICR [12:38] okay, i get the point, thanks :) === KaiL [KaiL@p548F7A73.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:51] hm, damnit, the firefox and evolution icons still haven't been restored to the default top panel [12:51] and no mdz around to delegate upwards to ... [12:59] Kamion: are you going to start building daily kubuntu CDs [01:00] guys, I sleep. thanks for your help tonight [01:00] night hughsie [01:01] hughsie, thanks for your app ;) [01:01] Riddell: hm, yeah, I should get around to that [01:03] Riddell: I can't remember whether I fixed everything so that it'll work, but I've made it start building at least. sorry I neglected it until now [01:03] Kamion: what needed fixed? [01:03] last I checked I think kubuntu-desktop was uninstallable [01:04] but that's been sorted out [01:04] should be fine now I hope [01:04] worked fine for me and others who have tried === Mez [~mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === womble [~mpalmer@220-245-224-46-nsw.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === aeddan [~aeddan@203.39.89.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Betaflye [~BETAFLYE@HSE-Toronto-ppp311423.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marcin_ant [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === haggai [~halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Betaflye [~BETAFLYE@HSE-Toronto-ppp311423.sympatico.ca] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Mez [~mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jp [~jp@216-155-90-18.bk2-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:41] AHA [01:41] got the hal thing [01:41] - if [ -x /etc/init.d/dbus-1 ] ; then [01:41] - invoke-rc.d dbus-1 restart || true [01:41] + if [ -x /etc/init.d/dbus ] ; then [01:41] + invoke-rc.d dbus restart || true [01:42] kewl 4 u [01:43] too late for a Colony release tonight, though. Again. [01:44] no1 [01:44] :P [01:45] it's not too late [01:45] ;) [01:45] jajaj [01:45] whatever === jordi [~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ttj [terje@blupp.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:25] Kamion: colony ? === NoSense is now known as kronoss [02:26] lifeless: I collection of badgers [02:26] ahha [02:27] lifeless: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-May/007591.html [02:27] Kamion: I'm looking forward to a Kubuntu colony :) [02:27] eek. I think that might have to be Colony >= 3 :) [02:29] ? [02:29] msg StoneTable around? [02:29] please, kubuntu at #kubuntu-devel [02:29] :) [02:29] oops [02:29] if I open(foo, O_CREAT|O_WRONLY, 0222) - can I write to it (i.e. does the mode affect later users only ?) [02:30] dumbarse question I know [02:30] jp: his question was quite welcome here [02:30] and appropriate [02:30] I don't know why mark shuttleworth talked and presented about 10x10 having kubuntu :) [02:31] I think must think a little bit about kubuntu :) [02:31] because we want 20x10 ;) [02:31] nah [02:31] :) [02:31] I want 20x10 gnome ;) [02:38] Kamion: ^^^ [02:41] ? [02:41] if I open(foo, O_CREAT|O_WRONLY, 0222) - can I write to it (i.e. does the mode affect later users only ?) [02:41] dumbarse question I know [02:41] I imagine you can, but I'd have to try it [02:42] ah, k. [02:43] 0222 is write-only anyway - did you mean 0444? [02:43] open("foo-test", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT, 0444) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) [02:45] oh, no, ignore that [02:45] lifeless: works fine even with 0444 [02:45] Kamion: thank you for humouring my lame-arseness === Kamion sets CDs building and goes to build; night [02:45] night [02:46] night all [02:47] night ogra === Jimbob [~jcape@c-24-14-115-101.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [~bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === SloMo_ [~slomo@p5487F444.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jammcq [~jam@pcp09011044pcs.watrfd01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [~stub@203-217-37-199.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [Amaranth@amaranth.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Jimbob [~jcape@c-24-14-115-101.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === SloMo_ [~slomo@p5487F444.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jlje is now known as jlj === mxpxpod [~bryan@mxpxpod.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.33.170] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:40] So, how long does it usually take between buildd building a package and it showing up in the archive? [04:40] the master archive updates every 30 minutes iirc [04:41] And what time zone is people.ubuntu.com in? [04:41] [ ] ecj-bootstrap_3.0.1-4ubuntu3_20050629-2109-i386-successful.gz 29-Jun-2005 21:13 6.8K [04:41] wasabi: the main data center is in the UK [04:41] that sounds more like US centra [04:41] Apache should localize these times. ;0 [04:41] l [04:42] im in est and its 10:13 [04:42] 10:41 rather [04:42] I'm in CST. [04:42] it's 0342 in UTC right now [04:42] so I assume it built 6 hours ago, because all the data centre machines are currently UTC+1 [04:42] yeah im lost [04:42] *spins* [04:42] yep [04:42] OKay, so it was built 6 hours ago. [04:42] Why isn't it in the archive yet? [04:43] *shrug* [04:43] its not new is it? [04:43] might have binary packages which need to go through NEW [04:43] oh hell. [04:43] Yeah, it's NEW. [04:43] yep [04:43] Forgot I added a new package to it. [04:43] consider yourself rocked by moderation === wasabi wishes it would email him with status. [04:43] enter holding pattern [04:43] wasabi: it does, for NEW sources [04:44] Kamion: ping [04:44] not so smart about NEW binaries [04:44] Ahh well. [04:44] How fast does NEW go these days? :) [04:44] depends on elmo's level of spite towards you/your package [04:45] his free time, i mean [04:45] tseng: *whap* [04:45] Haha. So Never? :) [04:45] since elmo's not here to defend himself === lamont sees the time, runs out the door [04:45] wasabi: java? [04:45] wasabi: pretty close [04:45] Yeah. [04:45] lamont: :) [04:45] lamont: cya. [04:45] I have Eclipse 3.1 ready to upload. [04:45] BUt it'll be stuck behind ecj-bootstrap anyways. [04:47] yeah dont upload anything else that will just fail [04:47] it would require manual kicking or more uploads [05:04] , if it has proper build-deps, it won't fail, it'll just enter dep-wait. [05:05] Also, katie mails the uploader on NEW source/binaries. That's why you get a mail for NEW sources, but the buildd gets a mail for binaries. A weird side-effect of source-only uploading. [05:31] hrm [05:32] is it possible to get dpkg -l to show package sizes? [05:33] (or get a list of installed packages, sorted by size, some other way?) [05:34] lu|away: "less /var/lib/dpkg/status" === mxpxpod [~bryan@mxpxpod.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:37] installed size in dpkg/status is K? [05:38] I guess [05:38] I have some Python code that extracts some info from the file that might be useful [05:38] http://people.ubuntu.com/~jamesh/identify.py [05:39] probably not worth it [05:39] hrm === lu|away discovers some of the size growth === lu|away discovers lots of lang packs [05:39] "apt-get clean" ? 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[07:30] I: Configuring ubuntu-keyring... [07:30] W: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be attempted 5 times. [07:30] bummer === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:44] hey lamont [07:51] hrm... that reminds me [07:52] if you are not tired.... [07:52] i am not going to work on kernel today or tomorrow [07:54] I have a toolchain now, and sometime soonish (since I unthrottled it), my mirror will be current, and I can install said toolchain in the local archive and let the buildd have some fun [07:54] then the other buildd will get the toolchain tomorrow, and off to the races [07:55] ehhe neat [07:56] gsyprf11 has a hoary chroot... (and a pretty broken breezy chroot - I need to build a fresh once I can debootstrap breezy/hppa) === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:57] 67 files to go on the mirror. [07:59] lamont: is the hoary chroot updated ? [08:00] lamont: the chroot isn't exactly ok [08:00] dchroot -c hoary [08:00] Executing shell in 'hoary' chroot. [08:00] crimsun: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. [08:00] meh [08:00] s/crimsun/su [08:03] hrmpf... I'll have to pester ggg tomorrow and figure out what that means - tired enough tonight that it's a bad idea to muck about. [08:03] note that you do wind up in the chroot after that warning. [08:05] yup [08:05] i think elmo knows what the problem is [08:05] we digged into it once [08:05] lamont: can you wait a sec to install the b-d? === lamont launches 67 wget's in parallel... just for giggles [08:06] lamont: please install ccache and distcc [08:06] sure - just tell me what you need [08:07] ( i will need to recheck the other 2/3 hostnames for distcc ) [08:07] but be aware that the hppa/breezy archive is pretty empty atm [08:07] yup.. i am unpacking it now [08:07] i am in the hoary chroot... it's enough for me to do test build [08:07] xmlto kernel-package gcc-3.4-hppa64 gcc-3.4 [08:07] although with my chages, you _should_ be able to build it on a mostly-hoary world [08:08] lamont: no problem for that.. i can relax the b-d for hppa while i am working [08:08] s/working/building [08:10] installed... wanna check the versions, and maybe I can fix them if needed... [08:11] no i am fine with what's there [08:11] cool [08:11] perfect [08:12] dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: kernel-package (>= 9.001ubuntu1) [08:12] it's the only one [08:12] but it doesn't need to be there [08:12] not in hoary [08:13] so I don't need to go fetch that from breezy? [08:13] nope [08:13] it's to workaround a gcc/glibc/dpkg -gnu- non-gnu crap [08:13] that's not in hoary [08:14] ah, ok [08:14] dpkg-dev crapage you mean? [08:14] and ppc64 [08:14] or sparc crapage? [08:14] nope.. dpkg-dev [08:14] sparc is ok :) === marilize [~marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:14] notice how I made the gcc-3.4 be ppc-concious... [08:15] yup i know [08:15] i saw it [08:16] kernel-package wasn't a hard one to grab and drop in my hoary chroot though, so I didn't bother (that and I didn't know just how required it was...) [08:17] nah that's ok.. the old one is fine [08:18] yeah - wasn't worth the time to find that out though... /me would like it if the build-deps were properly versioned to start with, for us backporting-to-hoary types.... [08:18] so subversion is kinda bloated (debsize-wise, that is..) [08:19] lamont: i don't want people to backport kernel tbh... [08:19] yeah, but ... :) [08:19] lamont: a kernel backport requires also all the userland tool syncronzation... [08:20] and mostoften people have no clue about it [08:20] very true === lamont successfully hits 400kbps [08:20] (avg over 5 minutes) [08:21] heh ive been sitting on about 1300 for the last 30 hours or so [08:22] managed to push it faster than i thought was possible [08:28] SPARC KERNEL UNBUSTED! [08:29] fabbione: coolness! [08:30] lamont: at least this is according to BenC. i need to test it ;) [08:30] it looks like the error we get at build time are ghosts [08:30] and the resulting kernel is still good [08:31] so it was never busted [08:34] Ben Collins is a machine... [08:35] if the kernel throws ghost failures, it's not a good kernel.... [08:35] apparently it's not the kernel ... [08:35] scripts/mod/modpost.c === san [~san@cupwebproxy2.core.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:35] is at fault.. it barfs on sparc64 elf [08:35] and that one is linked with glibc [08:35] that can explain why the problem shows up only on recent glibc === mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `anthony [~anthony@ekorp-203-63-137-225.eoff.ekorp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rob^ [~rob@dsl-202-52-55-156.qld.veridas.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rob^ [~rob@dsl-202-52-55-156.qld.veridas.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:49] <@GoodGuy> AHA! [08:50] ok he figured [08:58] checking for shared library run path origin... /bin/sh: ../buildlib/config.rpath: No such file or directory [08:58] done [08:58] building apt. Bad apt. /me looks at mvo [08:58] lamont: what did it this time? [08:59] it does not build? [08:59] mvo: apt_0.6.39ubuntu4 should it be bitching about config.rpath not existing during configure? [08:59] how strange. what architecture? [08:59] it builds, but it's a wierd errpor [08:59] hppa [08:59] bootstrapping the world, so that's mostly hoary bits [09:00] I don't have a config.rpath here === lamont looks at the i386 log, just for giggles [09:00] same output [09:01] so it's consistent.... but could be an issue, no? [09:01] does it die from that error? or at some later point? is the buildlog available somewhere? [09:01] no death.. just crap in the log [09:02] see also people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/a/apt/0.6.39ubuntu4/apt_0.6.39ubuntu4_20050629-1740-i386-successful.gz === lamont happened to be tailing the log file [09:02] it's not fatal, it just makes me wonder why it's there.... === henriquemaia [~henriquem@cb-217-129-170-110.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:08] lamont: it's a autoconf macro thats there for ages I guess. a bit weird because the macros configure.in look all pretty standard (/me checks again) === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-54-44.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-54-44.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JaneW [~JaneW@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:47] <\sh> hey JaneW how is london today? :) === Simira [~Simira@79.80-202-211.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:51] \sh - wet ;) [09:52] <\sh> JaneW: hmm...wet? two choices: wet because of hot summer, to much of sweat or wet, like london rain ,-) [09:52] \sh: sweat from over heated airport and wet from Londin rain ;) [09:52] <\sh> hahaha...ok..this is london :) [09:53] daniels: you around? [09:57] <\sh> JaneW: are u visiting germany after london? on sunday it's CSD time for cologne :) === vuntz [~vuntz@volin.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:01] good morning JaneW :) === JaneW [~JaneW@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:02] hm, she didn't like that [10:04] hi JaneW [10:05] hey JaneW [10:06] lamont: still awake? ;) [10:06] fabbione: yeah - iterating on xorg - I want to start that 4-hour build before I go to bed [10:06] but it's not looking good for that [10:07] Total 4 package(s) in state Building. [10:07] Total 16 package(s) in state Installed. [10:07] Total 6080 package(s) in state Needs-Build. [10:07] woot [10:07] .25% and climbing. :-) [10:09] ahah [10:09] A patches/scripts-mod-modpost_deal-with-new-glibc.dpatch [10:09] there! [10:09] lamont: phear ;) === Mithrandir [~tfheen@vawad.err.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:13] hi lamont and fabbione wassup? [10:13] JaneW: started digging in VolumeManager [10:13] JaneW: well, not sleeping yet, although I probably should be... [10:13] i need to update the wiki tho [10:13] thought I'd say hi, since I hadn't in forever === JaneW didn;t get much sleep last night... [10:14] lamont: yeah I haven;t seen you around much... how's HP? [10:14] daniels: ../../src/lcFile.c:252: warning: implicit declaration of function `getresuid' [10:14] JaneW: well, busy somewhat [10:15] JaneW: I almost have my environment where I want it (couple things left), actually getting to do real work instead of administrivia, etc. [10:17] JaneW: hoping to create time to work on testing and such an ia64/breezy cd sometime soonish [10:17] lamont: cool [10:18] lamont: is your baby 13 yet? [10:18] she turns 13 on July 30. the other turned 10 in May [10:19] depending, of course, on your definition of 'baby' === lamont is also reminded that he owes Jane a picture or 3... [10:20] hrm.. must deal with that tomorrow === fabbione needs more coffee [10:21] Kamion: ping? [10:22] Kamion: is there any function in partman* that given a devfs name will return me the device name? [10:22] Kamion: eg: /dev/hda1 is a link to /dev/ide/foo/bar [10:22] and given /dev/ide/foo/bar i need to get /dev/hda1 back? [10:23] fabbione: mapdevfs, in di-utils-mapdevfs [10:23] it's an external program [10:23] do we install it by default, don't we? [10:23] you can call it safely on any device regardless of naming format, as long as the device exists [10:23] Depends: di-utils-mapdevfs [10:23] ok cool thanks === JanC [~janc@dD5764BEC.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:24] Kamion: i did quite a lot of progresses already in auto-lvm [10:24] Kamion: but there is the problem that pvscan/vgcreate do not recognize the devfs name.. [10:24] so i need to map it back to get it right [10:24] right, that happens [10:24] yeah no big deal :) === herzi [~herzi@d059156.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:25] hey, is 'going within 500 miles of devfs' on that "list of things we really should clean up - one day" spec? [10:25] elmo: aka "uglyhacks"? [10:25] right, that was it === Mithrandir [~tfheen@vawad.err.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:29] elmo: yes, there's a "clean up devfs paths" item there === lamont makes a note to beat daniels over the head for having xorg build-depend libxcursor-dev which build-depends libxfixes-dev which xorg provides [10:33] lamont : The whole situation will improve when the modularisation is complete. Bootstrapping xorg right now is a bit unfun, though. [10:33] infinity: exactly === gbon121 [~peppe@bohr.pisa.iol.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:34] wasabi: the last ant upload did break java/gcj :-( bad idea to upload a new ant with a dependency on a ecj-bootstrap, which failed to build. [10:34] lamont : I'm working with him to make sure the pain is lessened as quickly as possible. [10:34] lamont : I have a vested interest in making sure we can boostrap xorg from a xcroched-earth scenario as easily as possible, and he has a vested interest in me buying him alcohol and not killing him in his sleep. It's a good trade. [10:35] s/xcorched/scorched/ ... I wonder if that was freudian. [10:35] Kamion: we need to consider to remove DEVFS support in the kernel soon. .13 won't have it upstream [10:36] fabbione : YAY! [10:36] infinity: right now, it's a matter of installing just the right stuff from hoary, and the right stuff from breezy to make life happier. [10:36] fabbione: it's all blocking on jbailey, not me. :) [10:37] Kamion: ok :) === HiddenWolf [~HiddenWol@213-73-250-180.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:38] Kamion: i am going to ask jbailey nicely to do it before yesterday :P [10:38] ;) [10:41] ok. sbuild thinks it can handle xorg, now to see if the build-deps actually install without erros === marcin_ant [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tvo [~tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [Amaranth@amaranth.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:43] Kamion: i guess i just found the only corner case where mapdevfs doesn't work :P === fabbione will look after coffee [10:44] fabbione: ? [10:44] Kamion: [10:44] echo $path -> ok [10:44] fabbione: it's easy to fix given examples, generally [10:45] realpath="$(mapdevfs $path)" [10:45] echo realpath -> empty [10:45] you need to use mapdevfs $path || true unless you're certain $path exists [10:45] what is $path? [10:46] path is always set (got it from the a PARTITION_INFO) [10:46] it's usually /dev/ide/host0/.... [10:46] that is mapped to /dev/hda1 [10:46] works from busybox [10:49] fabbione: "works from busybox" - what do you mean? [10:49] infinity: and it helps to have the morgue nearby. :-( [10:50] Kamion: the same 4 lines of above, they work fine if executed in the busybox shell [10:50] i assume they use the same shell... [10:50] infinity: specifically, xorg -32 needs xcursor >=1.3-1ubuntu1; the current xcursor needs an xorg >-10 to be in the archive, and hoary gives you 1.1.3-1 and -10 [10:50] the shell should be irrelevant [10:50] but your poor quoting might be relevant :P [10:50] (mapdevfs is a C program) [10:51] um - are you trying to run this from a normal system? do you have mapdevfs in $PATH? :-) [10:51] Kamion: i did check and try different ones.. i will check again [10:51] it won't be installed on normal systems [10:52] Kamion: i am running it from inside d-i on a test box [10:52] the binary is only shipped in a udeb === lamont waits to make sure that xorg gets through configure before going to bed [10:52] fabbione: yes, but how are you managing to try any shell other than busybox inside d-i? === marilize [~marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === aeddan [~aeddan@203.39.89.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:53] Kamion: isn't d-i running inside busybox? [10:54] d-i uses busybox for lots of stuff, yes [10:55] one of us is very confused [10:55] step back and tell me in exactly what environment mapdevfs is failing for you? [10:55] ok [10:56] i started installing the machine. so i have d-i "running" at partioning stage, where i can select "Guided partitioning" -> "Use free space as lvm" [10:56] so i do select "Use free space as lvm" === aigarius [~aigarius@cable-62-205-80-136.upc.chello.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:57] that option runs /lib/parman/automatic_partitioning/60vg_all_free/do_option [10:57] i need to run mapdevfs inside do_option [10:57] now.. i edit that file from the shell on f2 [10:58] and tested there that it wasn't failing [10:58] but [10:58] to add extra debug i added to do_option [10:58] echo path $path >>/var/log/messages 2>&1 || true [10:58] in a bunch of points [10:58] and i can see that $path is ok [10:59] ok, if I were you I'd add 'set -x' to do_option and run it from partman [10:59] next step: [10:59] fabbione: Hey there, do we have a working 2.6.12 d-i image already? [10:59] sivang: current daily builds [10:59] realpath="$(mapdevfs "$path")" [10:59] Kamion: cool, with all of the ppc64 stuff in right? [10:59]