[12:48] <judax> mdke: ping
[12:52] <prc> I have a problem with playing sounds. Can anyone help?
[12:53] <judax> prc: have you tried #ubuntu?
[12:54] <prc> yes, but no one seems to respond to me
[12:55] <prc> I will try again
[12:55] <judax> hmm, it can be a busy place most of the time
[12:55] <prc> okay
[12:55] <judax> I am not a sound expert or I would give it a go, my sound works so I thank my lucky stars
[12:57] <prc> well it seems that only one application, like the os or SND, can use esd at a time
[12:58] <prc> So whenever I run SND I have to kill all the system sounds
[01:00] <judax> prc: what is snd?
[01:01] <judax> I know there are issues with certain programs wanting/expecting complete control of the sound system and you do need to kill esd to get them to work
[01:01] <prc> its an application that plays sounds, like .aif files
[01:02] <judax> I have that with ut2004
[01:02] <prc> judax: thats probably whats going on
[01:03] <judax> it works if you kill esd and then use SND?
[01:03] <prc> yeah. Then it works great, but then nothing else can use esd.
[01:06] <judax> forums have any insight into it?
[01:06] <prc> which forums?
[01:07] <judax> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:07] <judax> the ubuntu-users mail list is also VERY active
[01:07] <prc> I haven't checked, but I will.  I'm new to linux/ubuntu.
[01:07] <prc> hmmm.
[01:08] <prc> So, every time you run ut2004 you have to kill esd manually?
[01:08] <judax> prc: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ check this out too if you are new, map help
[01:08] <judax> s/map/may
[01:09] <judax> yep
[01:09] <judax> no way around it from what I can tell/have researched, that app, ut2k4 just demands it
[01:10] <prc> hmmm.  Well I'll check those places out.  At least now I know that SND or something is broken.
[01:10] <prc> Thanks
[01:10] <judax> I have seen that too with some video players, like mplayer
[01:10] <judax> maybe that is not the right player, I use xine most of the time
[01:11] <judax> good luck
[01:11] <prc> Thanks.  
[01:55] <mdke> judax, pong, Burgundavia pong
[01:55] <judax> mdke: Hi
[01:55] <mdke> yo
[01:55] <Burgundavia> mdke, is your bug still relevant
[01:55] <Burgundavia> ?
[01:55] <judax> quick question, just working on some of the docs and was wondering why the copyright on the kynaptic doc is different
[01:56] <mdke> Burgundavia, will check
[01:56] <mdke> judax, no idea
[01:56] <mdke> sorry!
[02:07] <mdke> Burgundavia, yeah, still crashes
[02:07] <Burgundavia> ok
[03:05] <mdke> night all, see you at the meeting tomorrow
[08:28] <robitaille> I don't think I'll be able to make it to the meeting.  It's really a bad time for me.  One of these days I'll make it to a doc meeting :)
[08:42] <froud> African Greetings
[10:57] <k31th> yo
[10:58] <froud-work> bo
[11:03] <rob^> how long until the meeting?
[11:03] <froud-work> my time now
[11:03] <froud-work> 10:48
[11:03] <froud-work> 10:48
[11:04] <froud-work> meetind at 14:00
[11:04] <froud-work> oops
[11:04] <froud-work> 16:00
[03:03] <mgalvin> morning all
[03:03] <froud-work> noon
[03:03] <froud-work> mgalvin: abt you public key
[03:03] <froud-work> do you have a key set?
[03:04] <rob^> aww.. I gotta go
[03:04] <mgalvin> froud-work, yes
[03:04] <froud-work> if you do, just send me your public key
[03:04] <froud-work> and username wanted
[03:04] <froud-work> elmo will add it to the server
[03:04] <mgalvin> ok
[03:04] <mgalvin> i'll send it to you now
[03:04] <froud-work> k
[03:06] <jsgotangco> alright i almost forgot we have a meeting
[03:06] <rob^> yes, which sucks
[03:07] <jsgotangco> ?
[03:07] <jsgotangco> sucks because of your timezone?
[03:07] <rob^> well, the fact its almost midnight
[03:07] <rob^> and due to the demands of a normal sex life...
[03:08] <jsgotangco> ahh well my wife just arrived from KL today and i want to go to bed too
[03:09] <rob^> 51..
[03:10] <froud-work> rob^: its OK you can always catch a log
[03:10] <rob^> yeah
[03:10] <rob^> I just turned logging on actually
[03:10] <froud-work> rob^: I would if I had to choose between meetings and sex
[03:12] <jsgotangco> oh the vogolity of it all...
[03:13] <froud-work> No definitions found for 'vogolity'.
[03:14] <jsgotangco> sure its a HHGTTG term
[03:14] <rob^> night all
[03:14] <froud-work> nite, rob^ :-)
[03:14] <jsgotangco> rob^: night
[03:14] <froud-work> enjoy
[03:15] <rob^> hehe
[03:15] <froud-work> we want a report tomorrow
[03:15] <jsgotangco> report tommorow? you mean meeting minutes?
[03:16] <froud-work> not of rob^ 's nocturnal activities
[03:16] <jsgotangco> oh right
[03:16] <jsgotangco> i'd rather not submit mine
[03:16] <jsgotangco> (i really want to go to bed now btw but it can wait)
[03:16] <froud-work> well if you have any, there are welcome
[03:17] <froud-work> well nice to see you're here anyway
[03:17] <froud-work> you have been scarce lately
[03:17] <jsgotangco> well i participated in a trade show thats why
[03:17] <jsgotangco> it just ended today
[03:18] <jsgotangco> i had some stuff to commit later
[03:18] <froud-work> jsgotangco: did you see your k quick guide is up at http://lnix.net/~froud
[03:18] <jsgotangco> oohhhh
[03:18] <froud-work> So far I have had good reports on it
[03:19] <jsgotangco> thats nice to hear
[03:19] <froud-work> :-)
[03:19] <froud-work> an uniq has offered to make us a debs packaging system for the kubuntu stuff, so regular updates will be installable soon
[03:19] <jsgotangco> hopefully we get the linode server soon so we can move this stuff there
[03:19] <jsgotangco> wow
[03:20] <froud-work> the kubuntu-devel guys have been a great help, especially uniq 
[03:21] <jsgotangco> hmmm i see the preview already shows 5.10 i guess the entities now reflect that
[03:22] <froud-work> yes, we are now moving that way. You are seeing development previews
[03:22] <froud-work> of course the whole docs are not aligned to 5.10 yet :-)
[03:22] <froud-work> hence the draft in the background of the pages
[03:23] <jsgotangco> yeah...hmmm heavy editing on the svn lately
[03:23] <froud-work> all good stuff and great work from mgalvin 
[03:23] <froud-work> I have asked enrico to get him a commit account
[03:24] <froud-work> four patches in two days
[03:24] <jsgotangco> yeah i saw the email
[03:24] <froud-work> that's good going
[03:24] <froud-work> for a newbie
[03:24] <froud-work> so how was your trade show? did you get business?
[03:25] <jsgotangco> there were some potential stuff
[03:25] <jsgotangco> one guy required docbook stuff
[03:25] <jsgotangco> seems there is a possible demand for technical docs here
[03:26] <jsgotangco> despite the very bad political climate here lately
[03:26] <froud-work> He he, you see
[03:26] <jsgotangco> i actually got to talk to one guy from toshiba
[03:26] <froud-work> BTW you want to open an INWords office in your part of the world?\
[03:27] <jsgotangco> froud-work: i was about to ask that
[03:27] <froud-work> we can speak about it:-)
[03:27] <jsgotangco> sure i'll just email you the details
[03:27] <froud-work> kk
[03:35] <mdke> hello everyone
[03:36] <jsgotangco> hi
[03:36] <mdke> hey dude
[03:36] <mdke> how are you?
[03:36] <jsgotangco> im happy wife is back and i want to go to bed :)
[03:37] <mdke> good
[03:37] <mdke> but you can't! mwahahah
[03:37] <jsgotangco> grrrrr
[03:37] <mdke> let's keep it short
[03:37] <jsgotangco> i hereby appoint mdke
[03:37] <jsgotangco> mwahahaha
[03:37] <jsgotangco> kidding
[03:37] <mdke> as what?
[03:37] <mdke> i get to go to bed on your behalf?
[03:38] <jsgotangco> NO WAY
[03:38] <jsgotangco> ok i was thinking you go to my wife
[03:45] <jsgotangco> gtaylor: morning to you
[03:46] <squinn> good morning Jer
[03:46] <squinn> Jerome
[03:46] <squinn> gotta love extra-45 minutest
[03:46] <jsgotangco> hello
[03:46] <squinn> told mom to wake me up at 9, stayed in till 9:45
[03:48] <gtaylor> greetings
[03:48] <squinn> we'll be in #ubuntu-meeting right?
[03:48] <jsgotangco> right
[03:48] <jsgotangco> all meetings are done there
[03:48] <mdke> heh
[03:49] <mdke> except non-english ones
[03:49] <jsgotangco> jgotangco@hula-project.org
[03:49] <jsgotangco> bwahaha it works
[03:49] <mdke> cool
[03:50] <gtaylor> Was the meeting today?
[03:50] <froud-work> Is the
[03:50] <jsgotangco> gtaylor: in 15 minutes
[03:50] <froud-work> hello gtaylor 
[03:50] <gtaylor> good timing :)
[03:50] <froud-work> instinct :-)
[03:50] <gtaylor> indeed!
[03:50] <froud-work> come with all KDE users
[03:51] <froud-work> gtaylor: when you have a chance it would be cool if you can edit my work in kuserguide
[03:51] <gtaylor> froud-work: Ok, I can take a look at it soon
[03:52] <froud-work> cool, I added stuff to your getting help work
[03:52] <froud-work> and there has been an edit since then
[03:52] <gtaylor> sounds good
[03:52] <jsgotangco> our kubuntu docs are going to be awesome
[03:52] <froud-work> we hope
[03:53] <jsgotangco> im sure of that
[03:54] <jsgotangco> i have been minimalist lately...
[03:55] <froud> he he
[03:56] <jsgotangco> ok guys we're starting in a few minutes
[03:56] <squinn> yep.
[04:04] <mdke> anyone not already present, meeting now in #ubuntu-meeting
[06:15] <mdke> jsgotangco, i'm gonna drop into the edubuntu summit tomorrow, what is the deal with the docs?
[06:16] <jsgotangco> nah, just ask around with the guys
[06:17] <mdke> you're doing them right?
[06:17] <jsgotangco> yeah, i mean take the chance to talk to them if you get time to go there, about what weve been doing
[06:17] <jsgotangco> (shouldn't really be edubuntu specific)
[06:18] <mdke> ah right ok
[06:18] <jsgotangco> ok i gotta sleep
[06:18] <mdke> night night
[06:18] <jsgotangco> its 12am
[06:18] <jsgotangco> heh
[06:18] <mdke> thanks for the awesome meeting
[06:18] <jsgotangco> great meeting guys
[06:18] <jsgotangco> laterz
[07:29] <squinn> welcome back mdke