[08:19] <froud> African Greetings
[09:55] <froud> when building packages how to I bump up the part of the version number after the - for example 0.1-X
[10:10] <Riddell> froud: edit debian/changelog
[10:10] <Riddell> but your X there is the debian version, we do XubuntuY
[10:12] <froud> sorry Riddle i am new to this stuff, learning quick, so I must change the kubuntu-docs (0.1-0) in changelog to what?
[10:14] <froud> thanks for your patience. I am good with Docbook and admin side of Linux but not with the prgramming side :-)
[10:34] <Riddell> I would make it 0.1-0ubuntu1
[10:34] <Riddell> then 0.1-0ubuntu2 etc
[10:35] <froud> OK, so only bump the end number?
[10:36] <froud> so what is the -0 for?
[10:36] <Riddell> the -0 is debian
[10:36] <Riddell> so keep that at 0
[10:36] <froud> lets say we will have regular builds
[10:36] <Riddell> and either increment the real version number of the ubuntu one
[10:36] <Riddell> or
[10:36] <\sh> mornin gentlemen
[10:37] <froud> should I be doing 0.1-0ubuntu1 then 0.1-1ubuntu1 then 0.1-2ubuntu1
[10:37] <froud> morn 
[10:37] <Riddell> noo
[10:37] <\sh> 0.1-0ubuntu2 ;)
[10:38] <froud> ok
[10:38] <Riddell> froud: that's incrementing the debian number, which we don't cos we're not debian
[10:38] <\sh> 0.1-0 <- debian prefix -> ubuntuN <- ubuntu version
[10:38] <froud> Ah ha
[10:38] <froud> I see said the blind man
[10:38] <froud> capish
[10:38] <\sh> froud: if you have a ubuntu version already, go to the debianized source and do a dch -i
[10:39] <\sh> or if u have a debian version with 0.1-0 do something like this: dch -v 0.1-0ubuntu1 -D breezy
[10:40] <froud> I just need to know how to manage the versions for kubuntu docs
[10:40] <froud> I understand now
[10:40] <\sh> export EDITOR=vim 
[10:40] <\sh> man dch <- small but good util:)
[10:41] <Riddell> froud: use dch -i  to edit changelog
[10:41] <Riddell> ah, \sh beat me to it
[10:41] <froud> cool
[10:41] <froud> nice toy :-)
[10:41] <\sh> riddell: no :) 
[10:42] <\sh> i just learned the debian way, before that, i was just doing vim debian/changelog and try to adjust the changlog format ,-)
[10:46] <froud> he he that dch is cool
[10:46] <froud> thanks
[10:47] <froud> but I must pass dch --check-dirname-level 0
[10:48] <froud> the changlog format 1st line should be
[10:48] <froud> kubuntu-docs (0.1-0ubuntu1) breezy; urgency=low
[10:48] <froud> ?
[10:48] <Riddell> looks good
[10:48] <froud> should the ubuntu1 part be seperate
[10:49] <froud> otherwise how will dch know to increment the number of ubuntu1
[10:49] <froud> I see it can increment the debian number
[10:49] <\sh> froud: dch knows :)  
[10:50] <\sh> 0.1-0ubuntu1 --> dch -i ==> 0.1-0ubuntu2 
[10:50] <Riddell> dch -i just adds 1 to the last number
[10:50] <froud> ok cool
[10:51] <froud> so dch -i --check-dirname-level 0
[10:51] <froud> wicked
[10:51] <froud> Riddell: how do you suggest we can plan documentation development?
[10:51] <\sh> froud: e.g. your source dir is package-0.1 then do a cd package-0.1 ; dch -i
[10:52] <froud> OK
[10:52] <froud> got it now
[10:52] <froud> that's good because my build scripts prompts for dir number
[10:53] <froud> Riddell: I can now do the kde-systemsettings documentation
[10:53] <froud> Riddell: but its hard to know what else needs doing
[10:54] <froud> Riddell: I would like to create a list of things for contributors. Things they should know
[10:54] <froud> it will help give some direction to our writing. we will know what stays the same and what changes
[10:54] <froud> any suggestions?
[10:55] <Riddell> I need to take at look at it toot sweet and see what needs done
[10:55] <Riddell> can't do that today, anarchists are taking over edinburgh
[10:56] <Riddell> but hopefully tomorrow
[10:56] <froud> he he, sure
[10:56] <froud> perhaps I can maintain a doc for it and add it to lnix.net/froud
[10:58] <froud> considering that we are starting form scratch with kubuntu docs, my primary object is to id what we can do now (not changing) and so leave the stuff that will change to later (with excepton of kde-systemsettings)
[10:58] <froud> that way we will have the bulk work done and can focus on the topical stuff when we have x working again
[10:59] <froud> in the interim ppl will use hoary and do the stuff that stays the same
[10:59] <froud> does that sound workable for you?
[01:06] <uniq> hi guys.
[05:35] <mart> hi
[05:35] <mart> can anyone say which package has /usr/lib/libkateinterfaces.so?
[05:37] <mart> ah, answered in #kubuntu, thx