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| mxpxpod | seb128: did you get the bug I closed and then re-opened? | 12:09 |
|---|---|---|
| seb128 | yep | 12:10 |
| mxpxpod | does my explanation sound reasonable? | 12:10 |
| seb128 | not really | 12:12 |
| mxpxpod | ok | 12:12 |
| mxpxpod | I'm not sure why, but a recompile of libwnck fixes my problems | 12:12 |
| seb128 | "the symbols in libwnck need to be updated with a recompile" | 12:12 |
| seb128 | what's that? | 12:12 |
| seb128 | the symboles are the the list of stuff declared by the lib | 12:13 |
| seb128 | that's not going to change on a rebuil | 12:13 |
| mxpxpod | ok | 12:13 |
| seb128 | a rebuild doesn't change the ABI | 12:13 |
| mxpxpod | maybe what the lib points to in other libs needs to be updated | 12:13 |
| seb128 | that would mean than a lib has changed its ABI | 12:14 |
| seb128 | wnck has not | 12:14 |
| seb128 | and I doubt that libc breaks the compatibility | 12:14 |
| mxpxpod | could it be glib? | 12:14 |
| seb128 | no | 12:14 |
| mxpxpod | man... | 12:14 |
| seb128 | all the GNOME libs have an ABI compatibility | 12:15 |
| mxpxpod | this makes no freaking sense | 12:15 |
| seb128 | google about the error, just tried that and there is a bunch of responses | 12:17 |
| mxpxpod | ok | 12:17 |
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| seb128 | seems to be a toolchain issue | 12:18 |
| mxpxpod | which means... | 12:18 |
| seb128 | build issue | 12:19 |
| seb128 | fPIC code | 12:19 |
| mxpxpod | seb128: any clue how to fix it? | 12:20 |
| seb128 | nop | 12:21 |
| mxpxpod | wonder if jbailey would know... | 12:21 |
| seb128 | could be a gcc or libc issue | 12:21 |
| seb128 | yep, he's probably the right guy to ask about this | 12:21 |
| mxpxpod | and he just happens to be gone... | 12:22 |
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| mxpxpod | seb128: ok, could you try something for me really quick? could you add a workspace switcher to a panel and then open its preferences? | 12:23 |
| seb128 | and ... ? | 12:25 |
| mxpxpod | do you get a warning message? | 12:25 |
| seb128 | no | 12:26 |
| mxpxpod | suck | 12:26 |
| seb128 | what does it say? | 12:26 |
| mxpxpod | Failed: Failed: Schema `/schemas/apps/workspace_switcher_applet/prefs/display_all_workspaces' specified for `/apps/panel/applets/applet_84/prefs/display_all_workspaces' stores a non-schema value | 12:26 |
| mxpxpod | Failed: Failed: Schema `/schemas/apps/workspace_switcher_applet/prefs/num_rows' specified for `/apps/panel/applets/applet_84/prefs/num_rows' stores a non-schema value | 12:26 |
| mxpxpod | now, here's something really strange | 12:26 |
| mxpxpod | if I pkill the panel, the preferences work fine | 12:27 |
| mxpxpod | it looks like the defaults aren't getting written correctly (not sure if that's just here or what) | 12:30 |
| seb128 | it's a GNOME dialog with this message? | 12:30 |
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| mxpxpod | I'll get you a SS | 12:31 |
| mxpxpod | seb128: http://www.reigndropsfall.net/images/Screenshot-Error.png | 12:32 |
| pablo_ | mdke thanks, I added a comment to the bug https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12188 : | 12:33 |
| pablo_ | :) | 12:33 |
| seb128 | mxpxpod: weird | 12:34 |
| mxpxpod | seb128: yeah, very | 12:34 |
| mxpxpod | check this out | 12:34 |
| mdke | pablo_, good stuff :) | 12:34 |
| mxpxpod | there's no display_all_workspaces key in gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/schemas/apps/workspace_switcher_applet/prefs doesn't exist | 12:35 |
| mxpxpod | s/doesn't exist/ | 12:35 |
| mxpxpod | s/doesn't exist// | 12:35 |
| mxpxpod | man, I can't type today | 12:35 |
| pablo_ | hmm when I'm trying to change the cursor, it's not changing :/ (/etc/alternatives/x-cursor-theme) at hoary it changes, at breeze it's not doing that :/ somebody with the same problem? | 12:35 |
| xhaker | its broken | 12:35 |
| pablo_ | xhaker for me? | 12:36 |
| xhaker | for everybody | 12:36 |
| seb128 | not for me | 12:36 |
| pablo_ | I mean if you have talked to me :) | 12:36 |
| pablo_ | seb128 you're cool =P | 12:36 |
| mxpxpod | seb128: was that for me? | 12:36 |
| pablo_ | jajaja | 12:36 |
| pablo_ | :) | 12:36 |
| xhaker | pablo_, it is broken in breezy | 12:37 |
| xhaker | it happened in hoary devel times too | 12:37 |
| seb128 | mxpxpod: nop, for the cursors | 12:38 |
| mxpxpod | seb128: ok, just making sure | 12:38 |
| mxpxpod | seb128: ok, so for some reason the defaults aren't getting written right for these keys | 12:39 |
| pablo_ | xhaker Ok, I remember | 12:39 |
| seb128 | mxpxpod: do you have a /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/schemas/apps/workspace_switcher_applet/prefs/%gconf.xml ? | 12:39 |
| mxpxpod | seb128: yes | 12:39 |
| seb128 | mxpxpod: can you put it somewhere? | 12:39 |
| mxpxpod | seb128: yeah | 12:41 |
| mxpxpod | seb128: ok, I was wrong... it is getting written | 12:42 |
| mxpxpod | if I open up gconf-editor and go to that key, it tells me this: | 12:43 |
| mxpxpod | Type mismatch: Expected `UNKNOWN, 5' got `Boolean' for key /schemas/apps/workspace_switcher_applet/prefs/display_all_workspaces | 12:43 |
| seb128 | your wnck seems to have issues | 12:44 |
| mxpxpod | you're telling me | 12:44 |
| seb128 | is that with your rebuild of the package? | 12:45 |
| mxpxpod | it's getting kind of old ;) | 12:45 |
| mxpxpod | seb128: yeah | 12:45 |
| xhaker | Akira Haraguchi, 59, managed to recite the number's first 83,431 decimal places, almost doubling the previous record held by another Japanese. | 12:48 |
| mxpxpod | seb128: do you have _any_ idea what would be causing all of this chaos? | 12:49 |
| xhaker | he memorised the PI | 12:49 |
| seb128 | mxpxpod: nop | 12:49 |
| mxpxpod | argh | 12:49 |
| seb128 | mxpxpod: do you have the issue only with wnck? | 12:50 |
| mxpxpod | yeah | 12:50 |
| mxpxpod | all the other applets work fine | 12:50 |
| seb128 | I've uploaded a new version today | 12:50 |
| seb128 | maybe it's going to fix the issue | 12:50 |
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| mxpxpod | seb128: what changed? | 12:51 |
| seb128 | wnck? not a lot | 12:52 |
| seb128 | but maybe a rebuild will fix your issue | 12:52 |
| mxpxpod | :) | 12:52 |
| mxpxpod | seb128: thanks for the help... hopefully this helps :) | 12:53 |
| Burgundavia | seb128, did eog 2.11 fix --> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8742 | 12:57 |
| seb128 | nop | 12:58 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 12:58 |
| seb128 | you can probably bug that upstream | 12:58 |
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| wasabi_ | We need 128bit uids | 01:01 |
| lifeless | when does upstream version freeze occur ? | 01:18 |
| Burgundavia | july 7th | 01:21 |
| HiddenWolf | Heh, and hopefully, bugs will start dying in droves after that. :) | 01:21 |
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| mdke | i wanna see some hard core backports for july th | 01:28 |
| mdke | 8th | 01:28 |
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| lsuactiafner | man, i was like , i wanna see some hard core | 01:49 |
| lsuactiafner | and from there your sentance wasnt funny anymore | 01:49 |
| mdke | ok i'll rephrase | 01:54 |
| mdke | s/backports for july 8th/_ | 01:54 |
| pablo_ | hi guys :) how can I determinate a default background color for nautilus? Thanks :) | 01:55 |
| mdke | pablo_, you can ask questions in #ubuntu | 01:56 |
| mdke | they will help! | 01:56 |
| pablo_ | mdke hihi thanks :) | 01:58 |
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| pablo_ | mdke of, that was a simple gconf set on apps/nautilus :P | 02:04 |
| mdke | pablo_, ok good. its also in the nautilus menu btw | 02:04 |
| mdke | either is good | 02:05 |
| pablo_ | mdke yep, but it doesn't apply to all windows, so you open a folder and that windows older have the default :) | 02:05 |
| mdke | it works for me | 02:06 |
| pablo_ | so on gconf I clicked background_set :) | 02:06 |
| pablo_ | in that way works for all windows :) | 02:06 |
| mdke | the menu also works for all windows here | 02:06 |
| mdke | maybe investigate and file a bug if it doesn't work on yours | 02:06 |
| pablo_ | 'cause is probably that you have on apps/nautilus/preferences/background_set on :) | 02:07 |
| pablo_ | 'clicked' :$ | 02:07 |
| mdke | nope | 02:07 |
| pablo_ | oops :/ | 02:07 |
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| pablo_ | mdke when I change the background with the 'Backgrounds and Em...' it only changes for that window :/ | 02:08 |
| pablo_ | the only way for me is gconf :( | 02:08 |
| mdke | the menu method should handle those gconf things for you | 02:09 |
| pablo_ | mdke I don't want to record a video with gvidcap ;) | 02:09 |
| pablo_ | so believe me :$ | 02:09 |
| pablo_ | jeje :P | 02:09 |
| mdke | i didn't suggest that I didn't believe you | 02:10 |
| pablo_ | well, now it works for that I want #525252 color :) | 02:10 |
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| pablo_ | Build-dependencies for evolution could not be satisfied. =P | 02:15 |
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| pablo_ | libgtkhtml3.8-dev: Depends: libgtkhtml3.8-15 (= 3.7.2-0ubuntu1) but 3.7.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed :o | 02:27 |
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| lamont | coreutils and procps both deliver /usr/share/man/man1/kill.1.gz | 04:31 |
| lamont | GAH | 04:31 |
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| jdub | lamont: guess you'll be wanting to kill that | 04:39 |
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| jdub | ;-) | 04:39 |
| === wasabi_ just got Heimdal + LDAP set up | ||
| === lamont is going to bed now... someone upload a fix pls. kthxbye | ||
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| calc | anyone managed to get a laptop running amd64 arch to wake up from sleep? | 04:51 |
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| calc | mine now goes to sleep properly (it seems) with 2.6.12 but i can't the screen to come back | 04:51 |
| calc | vbetool doesn't seem to work either saying it can't do a real mode interrupt | 04:52 |
| calc | and its not even normally on the amd64 arch i extracted it since the scripts seemed to use it from i386 arch | 04:52 |
| punkrockguy318 | on hoary? | 04:53 |
| punkrockguy318 | or breezy? | 04:53 |
| calc | breezy | 04:53 |
| pablo_ | breezy < | 04:53 |
| daniels | vbetool can't do real mode stuff on amd64, regardless of which packages you install | 04:54 |
| calc | daniels: yea i figured that after reading the error it gave me | 04:55 |
| calc | so is there a way to bring back video on amd64? | 04:55 |
| punkrockguy318 | Where might I contribute my bugs and suggestions to the breezy colony 2? bugzilla? | 05:00 |
| daniels | calc: right now, no | 05:01 |
| pablo_ | bugs bugzilla :) | 05:02 |
| pablo_ | suggestions I think mailing list | 05:02 |
| punkrockguy318 | alright, i posted my suggestions on the mailing list earlier today | 05:02 |
| punkrockguy318 | breezy is actually much more stable than i anticipated | 05:03 |
| calc | daniels: ok | 05:06 |
| calc | btw xlibs-data libx11-6 upgrade from hoary->breezy as of earlier today still is broken | 05:06 |
| calc | i reinstalled ubuntu on my laptop to play with wpa and acpi and noticed that problem | 05:07 |
| calc | purging both and installing them fixed it | 05:07 |
| daniels | i know | 05:07 |
| calc | ok | 05:07 |
| daniels | i haven't been working for a while (did wednesday/thursday in one long stretch, swapped friday for today) | 05:07 |
| daniels | i'll do my last upgrade tests when I get back from lunch | 05:08 |
| === pablo_ compiling evo from source | ||
| === pablo_ compiling evo from source :) | ||
| pablo_ | hopefully it works :/ | 05:10 |
| pablo_ | wow! on nautilus is applied the patch for viewing as list as an xml style :D | 05:12 |
| pablo_ | cool | 05:12 |
| pablo_ | hihihi | 05:12 |
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| calc | the hoary live cd can come back from S3 but it doesn't set the keyboard back up apparently | 05:38 |
| calc | i see the X login screen but can't type anything in or switch terminals, so it seems the keyboard is dead | 05:38 |
| calc | this is on the same amd64 laptop, btw | 05:38 |
| calc | er hoary i386 live cd (forgot to specify that) | 05:38 |
| pablo_ | libgtkhtml3.8-dev is broken guys now i'm compiling the source of that to get working evo :( | 05:39 |
| pablo_ | I wana evoo :'( | 05:41 |
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| crimsun | does #kubuntu also follow the same guidelines as #ubuntu regarding CoC? | 05:57 |
| crimsun | (or should I be inquiring in #kubuntu-devel?) | 05:57 |
| schweeb | crimsun: probably | 05:57 |
| crimsun | (sometimes it's difficult to keep things on-topic) | 05:58 |
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| fabbione | hmm | 09:32 |
| fabbione | what's wrong with: | 09:32 |
| fabbione | next if (! /^foo/ ) || (! /^bar/ ); | 09:32 |
| fabbione | if i use only foo it's ok | 09:32 |
| daniels | put parentheses around the whole thing? | 09:33 |
| fabbione | if i add bar it filters a but too much | 09:33 |
| fabbione | next if ((! /^foo/ ) || (! /^bar/ )); ? | 09:33 |
| daniels | next if ((!/^foo/) || (!/^bar/)); | 09:33 |
| daniels | right, might be worth a go | 09:33 |
| daniels | hold on, that will always trigger | 09:33 |
| daniels | you can't have something that's ^foo *and* ^bar | 09:33 |
| daniels | so that's the same as next if (1) | 09:33 |
| fabbione | daniels: there is no such case | 09:34 |
| fabbione | given a list of something | 09:34 |
| daniels | well, think about it | 09:34 |
| fabbione | the first word in the list indicates a category | 09:34 |
| fabbione | that can be foo bar baz | 09:34 |
| daniels | if you have three lines, foo, bar and baz | 09:34 |
| daniels | !^/bar/ will trigger on foo | 09:34 |
| fabbione | and i want to get only foo and bar | 09:34 |
| daniels | !/^foo/ will trigger on bar | 09:35 |
| fabbione | ah right | 09:35 |
| daniels | and both will trigger on baz | 09:35 |
| fabbione | needs to be && | 09:35 |
| daniels | that would probably be more useful | 09:35 |
| === fabbione needs more coffe | ||
| fabbione | much better :) | 09:37 |
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| fabbione | hey mdz | 10:30 |
| fabbione | hey JaneW | 10:30 |
| JaneW | hey fabbione | 10:39 |
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| sivang | hey all | 10:43 |
| mdz | fabbione: morning | 10:47 |
| mjg59 | mdz: Did you get my email? | 10:53 |
| mdz | mjg59: I did, thanks | 10:53 |
| mdz | mjg59: your list looks fine | 10:53 |
| mdz | let's go ahead and start contacting folks | 10:53 |
| mjg59 | mdz: Cool | 10:54 |
| mjg59 | I'll sort the shortlist of hardware, then we just need to make sure we have agreement on what the agreement with people is | 10:55 |
| mdz | mjg59: can you draft something for the terms and conditions in the wiki? | 10:55 |
| mjg59 | Yup, no problem | 10:55 |
| mjg59 | I'm moving house today and tomorrow, so this may end up being Tuesday | 10:55 |
| mdz | mjg59: still in cambridge, or elsewhere? | 10:56 |
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| mjg59 | Cambridge | 10:57 |
| mjg59 | Moving in with Daf | 10:58 |
| mjg59 | We can't get a phoneline for 3 weeks, so the internet situation may be... interesting | 10:58 |
| ivoks | vedran: name sounds somewhat slavic... | 10:58 |
| vedran | ivoks: yup :) | 10:59 |
| vedran | whois vedran: blahblahblah.ba | 10:59 |
| ivoks | vedran: pa sta ima u bosni? :) | 10:59 |
| vedran | ma nista vala, ruzno vrijeme | 10:59 |
| vedran | kisa pada, poplave itd. | 11:00 |
| ivoks | ok, english on... | 11:00 |
| vedran | np | 11:00 |
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| Kamion | mdz: hi, what was up yesterday? | 12:16 |
| Kamion | lamont: fixing your coreutils thing now | 12:17 |
| Kamion | lamont: it's #314713 | 12:17 |
| Kamion | lamont: (actually, not fixing right now, it's using dbs' dpkg-arch.mk - I'll see if/how I can get that changed first) | 12:23 |
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| dholbach | hi, could somebody trigger a rebuild of libxml-writer-perl? somehow ./usr/share/perl5/XML/Writer.pm wasn't contained. a rebuild in pbuilder fixed it. | 12:56 |
| dholbach | shall i upload with build1 suffix? | 12:56 |
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| pitti | Nice Sunday everybody! | 01:08 |
| dholbach | leaving again? | 01:10 |
| dholbach | have a nice sunday too, pitti :) | 01:10 |
| pitti | dholbach: well, in ~ 45 minutes | 01:10 |
| pitti | just some email reading | 01:11 |
| dholbach | how's the weather at your place? going out today? | 01:11 |
| \sh | *rearrangesomewikipagesnow | 01:12 |
| pitti | dholbach: it's just great, gf+me will take our bikes and go to my parent's garden (celebrating my mother's birthday) | 01:13 |
| dholbach | oh nice | 01:13 |
| dholbach | garden party with grilling outside? :) | 01:13 |
| pitti | yep :-) | 01:14 |
| dholbach | EXCELLENT | 01:14 |
| dholbach | much better than exam revision :) | 01:14 |
| dholbach | i won't spoil your sunday - have fun! :) | 01:14 |
| daniels | dholbach: yo dude | 01:14 |
| dholbach | hey daniels, how's it going? | 01:14 |
| \sh | dholbach: one beer in the evening will do it, to make your day ;) | 01:15 |
| pitti | daniels: you have to revise other student's exams? | 01:16 |
| dholbach | pitti: erm, i have to review my stuff to be prepared on friday (last exam) :) | 01:16 |
| pitti | dholbach: oh, I see *crossing fingers* | 01:16 |
| dholbach | pitti: thanks :) | 01:17 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: good luck :) | 01:17 |
| dholbach | \sh: yeah, i'm going to watch the oscar wilde movie tonight - i wanted to see it for ages | 01:17 |
| daniels | dholbach: not too bad, thanks | 01:17 |
| daniels | pitti: ... | 01:17 |
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| dholbach | ivoks: hey ante! | 01:17 |
| ivoks | dholbach: hi! | 01:18 |
| ivoks | i'm having some problems with eclipse :( | 01:18 |
| \sh | dholbach: actually I wanted to go to the parade today, but my head is paining too much today, just because yesterday we had a nice day ,-) | 01:18 |
| dholbach | ivoks: i tried to install it, but it didn't work yet - you might want to ask wasabi_ - he's the java/eclipse/... expert :) | 01:19 |
| ivoks | hi \sh | 01:19 |
| ivoks | heh, guess he isn't here | 01:19 |
| ivoks | dholbach: for me it doesn't even start :( | 01:19 |
| dholbach | \sh: go for a *slow* walk then, have some water :) | 01:19 |
| ivoks | \sh: so, what were you doing yesterday? :> | 01:20 |
| doko | ivoks: install eclipse-sdk as a workaround | 01:20 |
| ivoks | hm... thanks doko | 01:21 |
| dholbach | hey doko | 01:21 |
| dholbach | doko: how's it going? | 01:21 |
| \sh | ivoks: bought a washing machine :) and had some drinks at the cologne pride, made some nice contacts there, and had a very interessting outing ;) | 01:21 |
| ivoks | oh, what's cologne pride? | 01:22 |
| dholbach | sounds like a "headache next day" :) | 01:22 |
| ivoks | :)) | 01:23 |
| \sh | ivoks: it's a gay and lesbian party, just before the CSD parade today. CSD== Christopher Street Day, a happening where gays/lesbians/bisexual people are celebrating a party and demonstrating for their legal rights in the community | 01:24 |
| ivoks | ah, it's called gay pride in zagreb :) | 01:24 |
| \sh | was quite nice, i went there with two colleagues, he is muslim, and she likes girls :) and she knew about my situation, and he wasn't quite sure what to think and how to handle it but now he understands and is respects our way of life :) | 01:26 |
| mdke | fabbione, around? | 01:27 |
| ivoks | \sh: well, everybody lives in the way he/she chooses | 01:28 |
| ivoks | at least, it should be that way | 01:28 |
| JanC | IIRC there is an event/parade like that called "Roze Zaterdag" ("Pink Saturday") in Belgium ;-) | 01:28 |
| mdke | 12344 | 01:30 |
| mdke | whoops sorry wrong paste | 01:30 |
| \sh | JanC: looks like the same event ;-) | 01:31 |
| lool | (Gay Pride in Paris too) | 01:31 |
| daniels | mardi gras in australia | 01:33 |
| JanC | it has a new name now, it seems: http://www.blgp.be/en/ | 01:33 |
| \sh | #ubuntu-gblp ,-) | 01:33 |
| lool | daniels: mouahaha | 01:34 |
| \sh | what's the email address of chmj | 01:35 |
| dholbach | Charles Majola <charles at ubuntu.com> | 01:38 |
| \sh | thx | 01:38 |
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| pitti | sjoerd: just uploading pmount 0.9.2-1 to experimental :-) | 01:40 |
| sjoerd | pitti: \o/ | 01:42 |
| sjoerd | pitti: still haven't got a reaction from the cryptsetup maintainer :( | 01:42 |
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| pitti | me neither | 01:42 |
| pitti | ok, have a nice Sunday | 01:43 |
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| dholbach | \sh: FinishedUniverseLibraries is a complete list? | 01:50 |
| \sh | dholbach: not now...I just figuring out what is finished and what not | 01:58 |
| \sh | takes some time | 01:58 |
| dholbach | ok | 01:59 |
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| dholbach | hey seb128 :) | 02:11 |
| seb128 | hi dholbach | 02:12 |
| fabbione | mdke: now... but not for long time | 02:32 |
| seb128 | elmo: glib2.0 (exp) sync please | 02:34 |
| fabbione | seb128: you are supposed to be watching F1 :) | 02:35 |
| fabbione | seb128; they are running in france today ;) | 02:35 |
| seb128 | fabbione: yeah, I'm watching the TV while working :p | 02:36 |
| dholbach | fabbione: F1 needs no concentration at all - you can hack/whatever while watching it | 02:36 |
| fabbione | seb128: eheheh | 02:36 |
| === dholbach 'd get a headache :) | ||
| fabbione | dholbach: i prefer to relax and watch F1 :) | 02:36 |
| fabbione | IRC and www.formula1.com are the 2 only things around at this time | 02:37 |
| dholbach | fabbione: F1 and relaxing just don't fit together... at least not for me :) | 02:37 |
| fabbione | dholbach: probably because you are a decade younger than me .. and didn't watch much of Senna/Prost/Mansel fights | 02:39 |
| fabbione | this F1 is boring compared | 02:39 |
| HiddenWolf | it is | 02:39 |
| HiddenWolf | and you should all be spanked for being OT ;) | 02:40 |
| mdke | fabbione, i just wanted to clarify a bit #12344 which I reopened just now, if you're happy, then no need, otherwise, I can try and clarify | 02:40 |
| fabbione | a second... i don't have buzilla handy here | 02:40 |
| dholbach | fabbione: once i'm not chained to the computer anymore, i'll be happy to let you try to explain the fascination to me :) | 02:41 |
| fabbione | dholbach: eheh | 02:41 |
| mdke | i prefer motogp to f1 i have to say | 02:41 |
| fabbione | mdke: the RADIO16.BIN that you have on warty2hoary partition is the same as the one in the brand new hoary installation? | 02:50 |
| fabbione | check the md5sum of them | 02:50 |
| fabbione | if they are not the same i would suggest you get the file from the other partition | 02:50 |
| fabbione | that's all i can suggest | 02:50 |
| fabbione | the driver in the kernel is the same | 02:50 |
| mdke | fabbione, sure. But the main part of the bug is the fact that the firmware is not shipped with Ubuntu | 02:51 |
| fabbione | mdke: dude.. you open a bug with a firware that doesn't load... | 02:51 |
| fabbione | now it's turning in the firmware is missing.. | 02:51 |
| fabbione | it's one bug per problem | 02:51 |
| fabbione | not 2 problems in one bug... | 02:51 |
| mdke | ok | 02:51 |
| fabbione | in any case the firmware won't be added to hoary | 02:51 |
| mdke | ignore the comment then, the report shows clearly that the firmware is missing | 02:51 |
| fabbione | ok | 02:52 |
| fabbione | mdke: please reassign the bug to linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10 | 02:52 |
| mdke | fabbione, sure ok | 02:52 |
| fabbione | thanks | 02:52 |
| mdke | fabbione, is it normal that linux-restricted-modules was installed automatically by the installer? | 02:54 |
| Kamion | yes | 02:54 |
| mdke | k cool | 02:54 |
| Kamion | normal and intentional | 02:54 |
| mdke | yes I appreciated it | 02:54 |
| mdke | :) | 02:54 |
| fabbione | hey Kamion | 02:57 |
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| fabbione | hey lamont | 03:02 |
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| fabbione | lamont: the gnome-alsamixer mismatch seems to be caused by the pkg being moved to universe... but wanna-build doesn't realise that | 03:02 |
| lamont | fabbione: because it's UNKNOWN == main. iz override file fix that elmo needs to do. | 03:03 |
| dholbach | hey lamont: do we have to bug you in some weeks for a BIG TEST REBUILD? :) | 03:04 |
| fabbione | lamont: right | 03:05 |
| xhaker | hmmm, how come the new gnome-icon-theme has the real firefox logo? | 03:05 |
| HiddenWolf | xhaker, guess they cleared that with the moz foundation | 03:07 |
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| fabbione | dholbach: afaik they are working on it... it's going to be fun to fix 39483943 FTBFS | 03:08 |
| fabbione | dholbach: and there are pleny | 03:08 |
| fabbione | plenty even | 03:08 |
| fabbione | between gcc-4.0 and X split | 03:08 |
| dholbach | fabbione: yeah... but that'll be 5-6 weeks before release, right? | 03:08 |
| fabbione | dholbach: i truely hope a bit before that | 03:09 |
| fabbione | and that it will run constantly on all the archive | 03:09 |
| dholbach | it should be (some time) after mergingShouldBeCompleteFreeze | 03:09 |
| dholbach | fabbione: then i'll do everything i can to help out (when i finished thesis/exam/move) | 03:09 |
| fabbione | dholbach: i have seen a huge bunch of FTBFS in universe due to X split | 03:10 |
| \sh | grmpf...somethings goes terrible wrong with quantlib...too much of love | 03:10 |
| dholbach | yeah | 03:10 |
| fabbione | it's not difficult to fix.. just extremely boring | 03:10 |
| dholbach | that'll be fun | 03:10 |
| dholbach | yeah, we'll manage | 03:10 |
| fabbione | yeah | 03:10 |
| dholbach | the last weeks before the release will be the "MOTU weeks" :) | 03:11 |
| \sh | dholbach: enlish work for "fleissarbeit"? ,-) | 03:11 |
| dholbach | \sh: yeah, lots of motu hopefuls can prove themselves | 03:11 |
| \sh | yepp | 03:11 |
| \sh | no wonder why quantlib is not building properly....DH_VERBOSE=1 should always be enabled | 03:14 |
| fabbione | jamesh: eh? | 03:14 |
| fabbione | not at all | 03:14 |
| fabbione | DH_VERBOSE is optional | 03:14 |
| fabbione | \sh ^ | 03:14 |
| \sh | yeah, but helped me | 03:14 |
| fabbione | it does help to track down possible errors | 03:15 |
| fabbione | not to build the package itself | 03:15 |
| \sh | fabbione: yeah...but without it now, i didn't see the compile errors :( | 03:15 |
| \sh | now i have them :( | 03:15 |
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| \sh | and for gods sake there is a patch in b.d.o | 03:16 |
| \sh | so i don't have to work on this ;) | 03:17 |
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| dholbach | hey ogra | 03:19 |
| \sh | www.the-tower.co.uk -> search for prisoners: ogra ,-) | 03:19 |
| ogra | hehe | 03:19 |
| ogra | still locked in the hotel ;) | 03:20 |
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| \sh | and no..this isnot nice...they're playing the german national anthem in kerpen sindorf | 03:26 |
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| ezequiel | hi ppl | 03:27 |
| ezequiel | isn't there any qt4 build for ubuntu? | 03:27 |
| \sh | no not right now | 03:27 |
| dholbach | hi ezequiel, this is more a #ubuntu -question, but packages.ubuntu.com should be able to tell you | 03:28 |
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| ezequiel | yup, but not a #ubuntu answer ;) | 03:30 |
| loo | 1/j #ubuntu | 03:30 |
| ezequiel | sorry, I asked @ #kubuntu | 03:31 |
| \sh | ezequiel: lets say it like this: qt4 is not important right now, without kde4 in our eyes...and lets wait for some more bugfix releases... | 03:32 |
| ezequiel | \sh: well, it does matter to me, 'cause I was just to begin developming a qt application and I don't want to port it later | 03:35 |
| ezequiel | \sh: btw, have you read about the plasma | 03:36 |
| ezequiel | ? | 03:36 |
| Kamion | \sh: DH_VERBOSE=1 should generally be set by the person building the package in the environment, not hardcoded in debian/rules | 03:38 |
| \sh | Kamion: yeah..but this stupid package didn't show me any build errors, it just went on to installing ...:( | 03:41 |
| wm_eddie | ezequiel: I think it'd be easier to write it in Qt3 now and port it to Qt4 later. | 03:42 |
| ezequiel | wm_eddie: I hate porting, I'm too slow | 03:42 |
| ezequiel | wm_eddie: even if I does not know the differences yet | 03:43 |
| wm_eddie | well, looks like you are going to have to get qt4 from trolltech and install it yourself. | 03:43 |
| ezequiel | I just got some debian packages | 03:43 |
| \sh | ezequiel: yes I read aarons announcement | 03:44 |
| wm_eddie | that works. | 03:44 |
| wm_eddie | hopefully that wont break anything. | 03:44 |
| ezequiel | I'm gonna fill the deps with breezy and prays | 03:45 |
| ezequiel | the past week a friend asked me if he could install windows in his mac... | 03:47 |
| ezequiel | that would be a problem... | 03:47 |
| wm_eddie | ezequiel: Virtual PC. | 03:48 |
| wm_eddie | unless he meant as the main OS. | 03:48 |
| ezequiel | as main os he asked, he has no idea about virtualpc or whatever | 03:48 |
| wm_eddie | He can install Ubuntu :) | 03:48 |
| ezequiel | yup, I gave him a hoary cd | 03:49 |
| ezequiel | hope he wants to test it | 03:49 |
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| dholbach | bye guys, see you later | 03:58 |
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| davyd | daniels: has that X.org upload happened yet? | 04:07 |
| tseng | davyd: no | 04:08 |
| davyd | ooher, whatever update I got the other day now gives me an iPod logo | 04:09 |
| tseng | indeed | 04:09 |
| davyd | rocking | 04:09 |
| davyd | although, it has decided to mount the media somewhere new | 04:10 |
| davyd | is there a non-shit iPod application that will find out where my iPod is for me? | 04:10 |
| tseng | hey the last applets seb uploaded it says i can change governer in battstat | 04:10 |
| davyd | tseng: if you've built that part | 04:10 |
| tseng | davyd: snorp is working on that | 04:10 |
| tseng | and abock, lewing | 04:10 |
| davyd | excellent | 04:10 |
| davyd | gtkpod is... average | 04:10 |
| tseng | also, the next g-v-m has an ipod target | 04:11 |
| davyd | and I wasn't feeling like attempting it myself | 04:11 |
| tseng | davyd: the muine plugin rocks | 04:11 |
| tseng | davyd: just now that it uses hal.. it doesnt work on breezy yet :) | 04:11 |
| davyd | tseng: I haven't tried that | 04:11 |
| davyd | tseng: oh, because of new HAL? | 04:11 |
| tseng | ya | 04:11 |
| tseng | they are working on that also | 04:12 |
| tseng | i dont see why we wont have it by breezy release | 04:12 |
| davyd | new HAL was ok to port to | 04:12 |
| davyd | once I got new documentation | 04:12 |
| tseng | yeah but they are all NLD/SuSE lamers | 04:12 |
| davyd | I started porting gnome-netstatus to HAL | 04:12 |
| davyd | unfortunately, this job has eaten up a lot of my holiday time | 04:14 |
| davyd | I see it also sends an eject to the iPod to make it 'tick' ok | 04:19 |
| davyd | and doesn't send HAL into the D-state | 04:19 |
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| lsuactiafner | shouldnt gcc for ubuntu be able to do ./configure --target=athlon_xp --cc="gcc -m32" --as="as --32" --with-extralibdir=/usr/lib32/ ? | 04:20 |
| lsuactiafner | mplayer source | 04:20 |
| tseng | davyd: last i tried that the eject failed | 04:22 |
| davyd | tseng: hmm, my breezy is a little out of date on this machine | 04:23 |
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| mdke | I'm just upgrading to hoary, linux-restricted-modules-386 and ubuntu-desktop are kept back from a dist-upgrade, is this intentional? | 04:32 |
| mdke | gah | 04:32 |
| mdke | s/hoary/breezy | 04:32 |
| Kamion | there's no l-r-m for 2.6.12 yet | 04:38 |
| mdke | cool thanks Kamion | 04:38 |
| Kamion | ubuntu-desktop is odd, http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/testing/breezy_probs.html doesn't show it as uninstallable | 04:38 |
| Kamion | but it may just be confused by the X modularisation; last time I did a hoary->breezy upgrade I had to help it out a fair bit | 04:39 |
| mdke | yeah right now it is having some xlibs-data conflict issues | 04:39 |
| davyd | the biggest thing about distro hacking, seems to be the number of times you are doing upgrades and other stuff | 04:39 |
| davyd | it seems to incredibly painful | 04:39 |
| davyd | anyway, time to sleep | 04:39 |
| mdke | so I'm gonna wait til that if fixed before finishing the upgrade | 04:39 |
| mdke | if/is | 04:40 |
| mdke | i figured I could do a nice clean hoary install, then upgrade to see if I could find any new bugs | 04:40 |
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| davyd | mdke: my laptop is booting currently | 04:40 |
| davyd | so it seems good | 04:40 |
| davyd | beagle seems broken | 04:40 |
| Kamion | there's a bug filed about xlibs-data | 04:40 |
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| mdke | Kamion, yeah i saw it | 04:41 |
| davyd | anyway, sleep | 04:41 |
| Kamion | you have to dpkg --force-overwrite -i either it or libx11-6 (can't remember which) for the moment | 04:41 |
| mdke | Kamion, its marked pendingupgrade so I figured it was better to wait rather than do some force-conflicts stuff | 04:41 |
| wasabi_ | Morning | 04:42 |
| Kamion | --force-overwrite is safe in this context | 04:43 |
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| mdke | Kamion, is there a difference between that and --force-conflicts? | 04:45 |
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| mdke | Kamion, ok i did it and it worked, thanks | 04:50 |
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| Kamion | mdke: er, yes! | 04:52 |
| Kamion | overwrite Overwrite a file from one package with another | 04:52 |
| Kamion | conflicts [!] Allow installation of conflicting packages | 04:52 |
| Kamion | (dpkg --force-help) | 04:52 |
| Kamion | WARNING - use of options marked [!] can seriously damage your installation. | 04:52 |
| mdke | oops | 04:52 |
| mdke | i did the [!] one :p | 04:52 |
| Kamion | --force-conflicts is for packages tagged with the Conflicts header | 04:53 |
| mdke | oh well, that was in the bug report | 04:53 |
| Kamion | which is different from what are often confusingly called "file conflicts" | 04:53 |
| mdke | ok so am i likely to have seriously damaged my installation? | 04:54 |
| mdke | having done --force-conflicts -i libx11-6 | 04:54 |
| mdke | if that is dangerous it might be worth noting in the bug report that the workaround posted is wrong | 04:55 |
| Kamion | no, I imagine not | 04:56 |
| Kamion | which bug is it? I'll correct it | 04:56 |
| mdke | Kamion, #12108, thanks | 04:59 |
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| Kamion | corrected | 05:03 |
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| mdke | Kamion, merci. Is there any need for me to undo what I did with the --force-conflicts? | 05:04 |
| daniels | not really | 05:04 |
| daniels | it's going to be fixed as soon as I test this fb patch | 05:04 |
| mdke | daniels, as long as I haven't done my system any harm :) | 05:04 |
| \sh | hmmm | 05:06 |
| \sh | is it ok to source upload the package described in: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11456 | 05:06 |
| Kamion | mdke: n | 05:07 |
| Kamion | no | 05:07 |
| mdke | great, thanks for your help! | 05:08 |
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| eruin | thom, have you abandoned http://people.ubuntu.com/~thom/network-manager/ now that its in breezy main? | 05:19 |
| mdke | ok the rest of the hoary->breezy seems to have gone really well | 05:22 |
| mdke | except for some reason each kernel in the grub menu has two entries | 05:23 |
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| hubH | eruin: breezy | 05:27 |
| lsuactiafner | tseng | 05:41 |
| lsuactiafner | this software patents vote, why aint the whole of freenode organising things to fight it? | 05:41 |
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| tseng | lsuactiafner: freenode is too busy soliciting donations and killing hub nodes | 05:58 |
| tseng | lsuactiafner: heh sorry.. did you ping me for something? | 06:00 |
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| tseng | dont do that, im a bad example | 06:18 |
| Lathiat | heh | 06:18 |
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| Nafallo | maswan: yea, works again :-). | 06:48 |
| trulux | anyone preparing the marbles for the LSM 2005? | 06:51 |
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| \sh | hmm...evolution with imap is crashing *cry* | 07:00 |
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| \sh | hmmm... | 07:14 |
| wasabi_ | Hmm. Could the X move have messed up vncserver? | 07:14 |
| wasabi_ | Yup, it did. | 07:16 |
| Burgundavia | fabbione, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46031 | 07:16 |
| \sh | does anybody run evolution on breezy with an imap account? | 07:19 |
| wasabi_ | I do. | 07:20 |
| \sh | did u have any crashes when u created an imap account? | 07:20 |
| wasabi_ | no | 07:20 |
| wasabi_ | the imap account has been created for many upgrades though | 07:20 |
| \sh | can u try to create an imap account right now? cause when I tried it many of times now, evolution crashed all the time when I choose imap4 or imap4rev2 | 07:21 |
| wasabi_ | Yup, it does. | 07:22 |
| seb128 | it crash on the account selection? | 07:23 |
| seb128 | nothing specific to imap | 07:23 |
| \sh | i only tried with imap4 | 07:23 |
| \sh | let me try pop3 or something else | 07:23 |
| wasabi_ | yeah, crashes on everything. | 07:23 |
| \sh | ah and it crashed when I tried to edit an account ... I choosed "nothin" now | 07:23 |
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| \sh | hmmm...gnome is at least completly broken in the moment ;) | 07:31 |
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| seb128 | what's broken with GNOME? | 07:42 |
| seb128 | for the account bug, downgrading to the hoary libglib2.0-0 fix the issue according to upstream comments | 07:42 |
| \sh | no...try to install straw | 07:45 |
| \sh | python-gnome2-extras doesn't want to install | 07:45 |
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| \sh | gdesklets | 07:45 |
| \sh | hmmm...w8 | 07:45 |
| \sh | I had my fingers on straw | 07:46 |
| \sh | strange | 07:47 |
| \sh | if i install libgda2-3 by hand, then it worked installing straw *reallystrange* | 07:50 |
| Lathiat | that often happens when say | 07:51 |
| Lathiat | libgsa2-3 provides: something | 07:51 |
| Lathiat | straw depends: somethingt | 07:51 |
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| pablo | are you working to fix evo? I've not seen activity on that bug, evo now it's not usable, you can't read email, and the bug is unconfirmed yet :) | 08:15 |
| pablo | https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12188 oh I see seb128's bug | 08:16 |
| pablo | =) | 08:16 |
| seb128 | no my bug | 08:16 |
| seb128 | I don't have a window box | 08:17 |
| highvoltage | seb128++ | 08:17 |
| pablo | seb128 I had the same problem with the same version of evo when I build a garnome snapshot | 08:17 |
| seb128 | evo-exchange bug? | 08:17 |
| pablo | *built | 08:17 |
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| pablo | seb128 obvios ;) | 08:19 |
| seb128 | you should probably go upstream with the bug | 08:19 |
| pablo | hahah seb128 it's assigned for you :) | 08:19 |
| pablo | yhmmmm | 08:19 |
| pablo | uhmm | 08:19 |
| seb128 | I don't know who has a exchange setup to work on this bug | 08:19 |
| pablo | Jeff Bailey | 08:20 |
| pablo | sorry seb128 :) | 08:20 |
| seb128 | np | 08:20 |
| seb128 | anyway, I'm away now, bbl | 08:21 |
| pablo | :) | 08:21 |
| \sh | but eclipse is running | 08:22 |
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| pablo | for all those want to try evo there's a new version http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/evolution/2.3/evolution-2.3.4.tar.gz | 08:34 |
| pablo | without the bug I hope :/ so try it =) | 08:35 |
| ivoks | which bug? | 08:35 |
| pablo | ivoks, https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12188 | 08:35 |
| pablo | that's a genereal bug, 'cause I got it con garnome too, with the same evo version | 08:36 |
| pablo | general* con=with | 08:36 |
| pablo | ;) | 08:36 |
| pablo | sorry brb | 08:36 |
| ivoks | thanks | 08:36 |
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| wasabi_ | doko, what do you think about integrating a update-gcj-classmaps script into gij? | 08:45 |
| wasabi_ | It doesn't belong in Eclipse, and it doesn't belong in j-g-c | 08:45 |
| wasabi_ | It belongs with gcj-dbtool. | 08:45 |
| daniels | gar debconf | 08:51 |
| wasabi_ | Ooops | 08:52 |
| wasabi_ | Somehow I had meant to put all that in anothe rchannel too. | 08:52 |
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| herzi | seb128_: ping | 09:13 |
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| wasabi_ | When ya'll submit Ubuntu patches to Debian, do you tailor them up to remove the changelog entries for ubuntu? | 09:17 |
| daniels | it seems to be good form | 09:18 |
| wasabi_ | We should get ongoing merge to do something like that. Combine all our entries into one. ;) | 09:19 |
| seb128 | herzi: pong | 09:19 |
| herzi | seb128: can you tell me why gnome-cc didn't find xcursor-dev while building though it's in build-depends? | 09:21 |
| siretart | does anyone know about issues with gnomemeeting in hoary against gnomemeeting in sarge? | 09:21 |
| herzi | s/can you tell/do you know/ | 09:22 |
| siretart | s/sarge/unstable/ | 09:22 |
| siretart | I just tried a testcall, but the version from debian keeps crashing | 09:22 |
| seb128 | herzi: maybe the current xorg's changelog? | 09:23 |
| seb128 | herzi: pkg-config files moved to fix ftbfses | 09:23 |
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| pablo | wtf http://www.renewnyc.com/images_WMS/freedom_tower/model_view_southwest_8x10-5_RGB-wmark.jpg | 09:27 |
| pablo | that's so pretty | 09:27 |
| pablo | the new building on wordl trace center <- | 09:27 |
| mitsuhiko | pablo: don't like it | 09:28 |
| Treenaks | world trace center? | 09:28 |
| mitsuhiko | yes | 09:28 |
| pablo | Treenaks does sound you september 11? | 09:28 |
| pablo | :) | 09:28 |
| Treenaks | pablo: that was the World Trade Center | 09:28 |
| Treenaks | pablo: the World Trace Center sounds like CIA HQ or something | 09:29 |
| mitsuhiko | Treenaks: ^^ | 09:29 |
| pablo | http://www.renewnyc.com/News/mediaresources.asp more photos | 09:30 |
| pablo | somebody knows why appear that wanings? libtool: link: warning: `/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.1/../../..//libglib-2.0.la' seems to be moved | 09:32 |
| pablo | thanks :) | 09:32 |
| wasabi_ | haha im a retard | 09:35 |
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| lamont | dholbach: setting up breezy-autotest is an in-progress project | 10:09 |
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| Burgundavia | should the new gnome-panel have the ff official logo? | 11:08 |
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| pablo | how can I adjust the bonobo path setting? I want to build evo myself :/ | 11:20 |
| pablo | /usr/lib/bonobo-activation/bonobo-activation-server | 11:21 |
| pablo | thanks | 11:21 |
| mdke | Burgundavia, yes apparently so | 11:26 |
| mdke | the gnome icon set has the ff logo now | 11:26 |
| Burgundavia | hmm | 11:27 |
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| pablo | please | 11:54 |
| pablo | the evo packager! :( | 11:54 |
| pablo | 2.3.4 version, to use it :( | 11:54 |
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