lamont | libgcrypt7 build-depends: libgcrypt-dev (>= 1.1.12-5), but libgcrypt-dev is a virtual package... --> ftbfs | 12:12 |
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lamont | hrm... or maybe there's a newer libgcrypt-dev and it's just not built yet... nm | 12:12 |
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HostingGeek | Sorry | 06:58 |
HostingGeek | that was someone else abusing my open session | 06:59 |
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DanielN_atw | hmm | 08:55 |
\sh | hmm? | 08:57 |
crimsun | hmm! | 08:57 |
\sh | right | 08:58 |
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DanielN_atw | hmm | 09:47 |
\sh | hmm? | 09:47 |
DanielN_atw | is there an uml patch for kernel 2.4? | 09:47 |
mort | DanielN_atw: howdy | 09:47 |
crimsun | yes, DanielN_atw | 09:47 |
mort | you allright? | 09:47 |
DanielN_atw | howdy mort | 09:47 |
DanielN_atw | mort, yep i am :) | 09:48 |
DanielN_atw | crimsun, in debian sarge? | 09:48 |
DanielN_atw | hrmpf | 09:48 |
DanielN_atw | nothing found | 09:48 |
mort | (__) | 09:48 |
mort | (oo) | 09:48 |
mort | /------\/ | 09:48 |
mort | / | || | 09:48 |
mort | * /\---/\ | 09:48 |
mort | ~~ ~~ | 09:48 |
mort | ...."Have you mooed today?"... | 09:48 |
mort | (little motivation in the morning) | 09:48 |
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DanielN_atw | mort, not yet.. but there are too meetings today, so.. i will moo ;> | 09:49 |
DanielN_atw | two | 09:49 |
mort | DanielN_atw: meetings? with laptops? | 09:50 |
mort | without it's just plain boring | 09:50 |
\sh | DanielN_atw, two meetings? | 09:50 |
DanielN_atw | mort, without :) | 09:50 |
mort | DanielN_atw is a busy businessman guy | 09:50 |
DanielN_atw | ^^ | 09:50 |
crimsun | DanielN_atw, http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kernel-patch-uml/ ? | 09:51 |
DanielN_atw | crimsun, hrmpf.... | 09:51 |
DanielN_atw | but thanks ;> | 09:51 |
crimsun | doesn't appear to be in "stable" according to packages.d.o, though | 09:51 |
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DanielN_atw | damn | 10:01 |
DanielN_atw | no patch for 2.4.27 | 10:01 |
DanielN_atw | only 2.4.26 and there are no sources :/ | 10:01 |
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mort | DanielN_atw: kernel.org | 10:04 |
mort | DanielN_atw: why not a fresh tasty 2.6 burger? | 10:05 |
jsgotangco | its probably full of cholesterol *grin* | 10:06 |
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ivoks | i don't know for you, but i have non working X in breezy :) | 10:39 |
mort | who needs X anyway? | 10:39 |
jsgotangco | right just do everything in emacs *grin* | 10:40 |
Amaranth | I know someone like that | 10:40 |
Amaranth | he does run X, but only because he uses firefox from time to time | 10:40 |
Amaranth | otherwise it's just ratpoison (screen for X minus detaching) and emacs | 10:41 |
jsgotangco | i use ion | 10:41 |
ivoks | X is good | 10:46 |
ivoks | it enables you to have more terminals and it's much nicer then screen | 10:47 |
ivoks | :) | 10:47 |
ivoks | time to go... | 10:52 |
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Amaranth | \sh: Having fun? :) | 11:13 |
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\sh | Amaranth, yes..gnome is not working as expected | 11:19 |
\sh | and I wonder why kontact works faster running gnome then directly in kde | 11:20 |
\sh | strange behaviour | 11:20 |
Amaranth | oh, it does that when it loses it's controlling terminal? | 11:21 |
Amaranth | GNOME has less baggage? :) | 11:22 |
\sh | haha... | 11:23 |
Amaranth | those KDE guys are drawing me in though | 11:23 |
\sh | normally it loads the full bloat of kde | 11:23 |
Amaranth | they lured me in with hot chicks who can code and kick my ass | 11:23 |
Amaranth | i can't say no, she might hurt me | 11:23 |
\sh | Amaranth, which chick can code and kick ass? | 11:24 |
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Amaranth | canllaith? | 11:26 |
\sh | ah u mean this aussie girl | 11:26 |
\sh | I thought she didn't code, she is more the webmistress or something | 11:26 |
Amaranth | *shrug* | 11:27 |
sivang | Amaranth: aussie girls? where? :-) | 11:27 |
Amaranth | sivang: #kde-devel | 11:27 |
Amaranth | :) | 11:27 |
sivang | Amaranth: :-) | 11:27 |
Amaranth | ugh | 11:28 |
Amaranth | i have to clean this mouse out every other day | 11:28 |
Amaranth | i wish i had my mouse :/ | 11:29 |
\sh | sivang, http://www.kdedevelopers.org/user/view/808 | 11:30 |
mitsuhiko | Amaranth: not good: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/view/900 | 11:30 |
mitsuhiko | ^^ | 11:30 |
\sh | but this new girl on da debian planet looks nice | 11:31 |
\sh | actually too young for me, | 11:31 |
mitsuhiko | \sh Christine Spang? | 11:31 |
\sh | yep...thought she was german... | 11:31 |
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mitsuhiko | ivoks: moin | 11:32 |
\sh | *rotfl* | 11:33 |
\sh | our security chief comes right now into the noc, talking to my teamleader... | 11:33 |
\sh | sounds like: "Hey, you security man, why do u write in german, use more abbreviations...nobody understand german at all, but everybody know the abbr." | 11:34 |
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ivoks | wow! new icons :) | 11:38 |
Amaranth | for what? | 11:42 |
ivoks | clearlook theme | 11:43 |
ivoks | firefox finally has it's own icon | 11:43 |
ivoks | :) | 11:43 |
ivoks | imho, clearlooks shold be default | 11:44 |
jsgotangco | but we're using human :( | 11:45 |
Amaranth | err, 'clearlooks' doesn't have icons | 11:46 |
ivoks | it does | 11:46 |
Amaranth | you mean andy made some new icons? | 11:46 |
Amaranth | clearlooks is an engine | 11:47 |
Amaranth | the icons are/were etiquette | 11:47 |
ivoks | well, i have clearlooks there | 11:47 |
jsgotangco | its probably andy's etiquette stuff | 11:47 |
mitsuhiko | ivoks: screenshot? | 11:48 |
ivoks | doh.. | 11:48 |
ivoks | it's just few icons | 11:48 |
mitsuhiko | i think its the etiquette theme | 11:48 |
ivoks | nope | 11:49 |
ivoks | but icons are very similar | 11:49 |
Amaranth | then it's his new one | 11:49 |
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ivoks | lol | 12:08 |
ivoks | After unpacking 2935MB disk space will be freed. | 12:08 |
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ivoks | http://www.koncar-inem.hr/racunala/racunala/niko.htm - this is laptop :) | 12:14 |
ivoks | 2x DVD DL burner :) | 12:16 |
Gervystar | 5.8kg... | 12:18 |
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ivoks | yep.. this is desktop replacment | 12:20 |
jsgotangco | does anyone here have a live account with the hula-project.org? | 12:23 |
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mort | DanielN_atw: I'm sure you want a debian/rules tshirt | 12:58 |
mort | DanielN_atw: I CCed you | 12:58 |
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DanielN_atw | mort, ping | 01:39 |
mort | oi DanielN_atw | 01:39 |
DanielN_atw | what kind of tshirt? | 01:40 |
mort | DanielN_atw: debian tshirt, described in log | 01:41 |
mort | with the debian swirl | 01:41 |
DanielN_atw | debian/rules? | 01:41 |
DanielN_atw | ahhh | 01:41 |
DanielN_atw | now i understand :) | 01:41 |
DanielN_atw | it's a joke.. that debian rules... | 01:42 |
DanielN_atw | damn UML | 01:42 |
DanielN_atw | my server's down.... no ssh connection anymore :/ | 01:43 |
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comadreja | hello, motus | 01:45 |
DanielN_atw | uehh comadreja :) | 01:46 |
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comadreja | I was here yesterday | 01:46 |
comadreja | hello DanielN_atw :) | 01:46 |
comadreja | I intent to help on ubuntu, would there be any way to get into the community ? | 01:46 |
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tseng | is ssh-askpass-gnome broken? | 01:52 |
tseng | as it, there is no executable | 01:52 |
tseng | no its in /usr/lib | 01:52 |
DanielN_atw | comadreja, what sort of contribution? | 01:56 |
DanielN_atw | i know, i asked this already.. but is someone working on PHP5 packages for breezy? | 01:58 |
DanielN_atw | it's a must, if we want to be at fedoras state ;) | 01:58 |
DanielN_atw | mort, what about the shirt now? | 01:59 |
\sh | DanielN_atw, the debian guys? ,-) | 02:02 |
comadreja | DanielN_atw coding, maintaining | 02:02 |
DanielN_atw | \sh, in would prefer an ubuntu shirt too | 02:05 |
DanielN_atw | ;) | 02:05 |
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comadreja | DanielN_atw : you think I could help with some coding ? | 02:15 |
tseng | \sh: did you have to remind us of the jmaynard costume? | 02:22 |
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\sh | tseng, hehe ;) | 02:25 |
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tseng | \sh: probably a good reason not to use gentoo | 02:26 |
\sh | tseng, bug mako...he reminds me of that ,-) | 02:26 |
\sh | DanielN_atw, believe me, since I got my original redhat fedora everybody wanted to have this gimmick...so an ubuntu shirt is not what I want to have ;) | 02:27 |
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comadreja | how could I assign myself a bug ? | 02:34 |
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ivoks | hi all | 02:50 |
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ivoks | did anyone of you tried human theme for firefox? | 04:20 |
ivoks | it's so good, it should be default in firefox | 04:20 |
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tseng | ivoks: is it based on the industrial theme? | 04:25 |
tseng | by garrett | 04:25 |
ivoks | basicly, it just adds icons | 04:26 |
tseng | well try industrial | 04:26 |
tseng | its the best | 04:27 |
ivoks | industrial for firefox? | 04:27 |
tseng | yes | 04:27 |
ivoks | ok, found it | 04:27 |
ivoks | hm, big N | 04:28 |
tseng | yes | 04:28 |
ivoks | they are very smiliar | 04:29 |
ivoks | they have same icons, but this one has nicer icons for bookmarks | 04:29 |
ivoks | nice | 04:31 |
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siretart | Riddell: you just made an upload to revu, did you? | 07:38 |
siretart | hi folks! | 07:38 |
tseng | hi siretart | 07:38 |
ivoks | :)) | 07:38 |
Riddell | siretart: yes, was wondering what would happen | 07:38 |
ivoks | siretart: you record every upload? | 07:38 |
Riddell | siretart: I also just sent you an e-mail asking for an account | 07:38 |
Riddell | at least I think I did, mutt was a bit weird with gpg | 07:38 |
siretart | Riddell: you did everything all right, but I'm currently debugging some scripts here. the fault is on my side | 07:39 |
siretart | Riddell: you don't need to reupload, I will fix it from here | 07:39 |
siretart | ivoks: yes, the register_upload.py script is run by a cron job, and I get every run via email. For debugging reasons | 07:40 |
siretart | btw, sistpoty improved the query for the index.py, the result can be seen here: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/index_new.py | 07:41 |
ivoks | :)) ok | 07:41 |
ivoks | check it out: http://master.grad.hr/~ivoks/breezy.jpg | 07:41 |
siretart | after debugging my stuff here I will integrate this into index.py | 07:41 |
siretart | ivoks: whoooo! that looks great! what graphics card and driver do you use for that? | 07:42 |
ivoks | siretart: that's with nv driver :) | 07:42 |
ivoks | not nvidia, but nv | 07:42 |
ivoks | the Free one :) | 07:42 |
siretart | ivoks: which card do you use? | 07:42 |
ivoks | nvidia | 07:42 |
siretart | which model | 07:42 |
ivoks | it's irrelevant | 07:43 |
ivoks | with nv driver you don't get 3D :) | 07:43 |
siretart | hm. I don't assume my 6600gt works with nv | 07:43 |
ivoks | does it work with nvidia? | 07:43 |
siretart | sure. I'm currently using it in a twinview setup | 07:44 |
ivoks | then you could make this work! :) | 07:45 |
ivoks | but, it's buggy | 07:45 |
siretart | hm | 07:46 |
ivoks | crashes | 07:46 |
siretart | I'd rather spend my time on revu ;) | 07:46 |
ivoks | i agree :) | 07:47 |
ivoks | see you soon | 07:47 |
ivoks | bye | 07:47 |
siretart | cu ivoks | 07:47 |
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\sh | ok..doing some motu work... | 08:12 |
\sh | whois frode? | 08:14 |
\sh | siretart: putting the irc nick next to the uploader would be nice ;) | 08:16 |
siretart | \sh: uff. hm. | 08:16 |
siretart | we would need a page where users could adjust their userdata for that. | 08:17 |
siretart | putting on the todo list | 08:17 |
Burgundavia | the idea that I mentioned to tseng was the following | 08:19 |
Burgundavia | Name (ircnick) | 08:19 |
Burgundavia | ala p.g.o | 08:19 |
\sh | i would like to see it also on p.u.c | 08:20 |
siretart | p.g.o? | 08:21 |
\sh | planet.gentoo.org | 08:21 |
siretart | ah. ok | 08:22 |
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Burgundavia | p.g.o planet.gnome | 08:23 |
\sh | oh ;) | 08:23 |
\sh | but it's the same on gentoo.org | 08:23 |
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siretart | Burgundavia: any comments on the current revu index.py? We (sistopty mostly) implemented your suggenstions with the icons | 08:34 |
siretart | hi `crimsun | 08:34 |
`crimsun | hi siretart | 08:36 |
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Burgundavia | just checking it out | 08:38 |
Burgundavia | my idea was for just one icon | 08:38 |
Burgundavia | for status | 08:39 |
Burgundavia | because new automatically means needs work | 08:39 |
siretart | no | 08:40 |
Burgundavia | ok | 08:40 |
Burgundavia | do I misunderstand the work flow? | 08:40 |
siretart | NEW means that 3 motus need to sign-off the package, because its NEW in ubuntu | 08:40 |
Burgundavia | ok | 08:40 |
Burgundavia | there is New status and new vs updated packages | 08:41 |
Burgundavia | which is confusing | 08:41 |
siretart | not NEW packages mean "normal" package updates, and require only one motu agreeing | 08:41 |
Burgundavia | in my terminology, that would be a updated package, that is New on Revu | 08:41 |
Burgundavia | and thus would get the lightbulb icon and the updated icon | 08:41 |
siretart | I tried to solve this by separating the sort order, first not NEW packages | 08:41 |
Burgundavia | ok | 08:42 |
siretart | Burgundavia: I use the word "NEW" for packages in the ubuntu NEW queue, and "new" for new in revu. You see the difference? ;) | 08:42 |
Burgundavia | ugly | 08:43 |
siretart | sweet! eclipse from multiverse with gcj in GTK2 look | 08:43 |
Burgundavia | I don't see an elegant solution to this, not yet at least | 08:43 |
Burgundavia | tseng and I talked about splitting the tables | 08:43 |
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Burgundavia | currently, I have no icon for packagetype=New but I have an icon for status=new | 08:45 |
Burgundavia | I think you are using the same icon for both? | 08:45 |
Lathiat | siretart: what package do i need to install to get that going? | 08:45 |
siretart | no, i use the lamp icon for NEW package | 08:45 |
siretart | Lathiat: for what going? | 08:45 |
Lathiat | eclipse | 08:45 |
siretart | Lathiat: I apt-get install'ed eclipse-jdt | 08:46 |
Lathiat | cheers | 08:46 |
Lathiat | 70M of packages, <3 java | 08:46 |
siretart | jupp | 08:46 |
siretart | but it's nice GTK! wooh! :) | 08:47 |
siretart | and it's free. no need for that stinking sun jre anymore! | 08:47 |
Riddell | siretart: do I have an account on revu? | 08:48 |
Lathiat | wonder if i can get azureus runnign on free java stuff | 08:49 |
Lathiat | it almost runs on ikvm except that doesnt ahve network operations implemented :) | 08:49 |
siretart | Riddell: in a sec, mom | 08:50 |
Burgundavia | siretart, another comment, from looking at the package page, it is not clear whether someone is merely commenting (and thus advocating No), or downchecking (and thus advoctating NO) | 08:50 |
siretart | Riddell: try to login with jriddell@ubuntu.com, and press the "recover" password link | 08:51 |
Burgundavia | do you want to keep the comments and advocates in one section, or split them out? | 08:51 |
siretart | Riddell: btw, are you working for canonical? | 08:51 |
Riddell | siretart: contracted | 08:52 |
siretart | Burgundavia: do you really think we need to seperate "downchecking" and "merely commenting"? | 08:52 |
Burgundavia | yes | 08:52 |
Burgundavia | because it not clear what status the package is at | 08:52 |
Burgundavia | and who can downcheck and who can't | 08:52 |
Burgundavia | ie, if I make a comment, it has no weight | 08:52 |
siretart | hm | 08:53 |
Burgundavia | tseng and I mocked up a new package page | 08:53 |
Burgundavia | showing the status and package type | 08:53 |
siretart | atm, only reviewers can comment anyway. uploaders can comment only on their own packages | 08:53 |
Burgundavia | my issue still stands | 08:53 |
siretart | I see. hm | 08:54 |
Burgundavia | my idea was to change the words to a checkmark and an X | 08:54 |
Burgundavia | and nothing for a straight comment | 08:54 |
Burgundavia | so the uploader can quickly see where they are at | 08:54 |
siretart | this would require schema changes in the database... hmhmm | 08:55 |
Burgundavia | did you see all the talk that tseng and I did about status icons? | 08:55 |
siretart | I think it would be least painfull to implement this when moving to the new home | 08:55 |
Burgundavia | the current system is going to scale very badly, due to excess time to figure out what is happening | 08:55 |
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herve | hello | 08:58 |
Burgundavia | siretart, minor further note, the icons should have tooltips, showing the word for the status | 08:59 |
siretart | Burgundavia: how do they work? alt tag? | 09:00 |
Burgundavia | alt tag | 09:01 |
herve | no, title tag | 09:01 |
siretart | but the icons do have alt tag | 09:01 |
Burgundavia | oh | 09:01 |
siretart | ah | 09:01 |
herve | alt is a text-only alternative | 09:01 |
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Burgundavia | tseng was working on completely redoing the front page | 09:02 |
Burgundavia | don't know where he got with that | 09:02 |
Burgundavia | siretart, you got something odd going on with ordering of uploads | 09:03 |
Burgundavia | looks like it might be ordering by upload time | 09:03 |
Burgundavia | http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=52 | 09:03 |
Burgundavia | http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=47 | 09:03 |
siretart | yeah, the ordering is quite tricky now, I am experimenting with a usefull one ;) | 09:04 |
Burgundavia | ok | 09:04 |
Burgundavia | relating to icons, my idea was to clearly define which needed to be commented on | 09:05 |
Burgundavia | thus any package, either packagetype=new or updated, would get the status=new when first uploaded | 09:05 |
siretart | first, there are uploads concerning non NEW uploads, because they should be handeld quickly. then NEW Packages, then done packages | 09:05 |
Burgundavia | and any pacakge that was status=needswork and got a new upload would revert to status=new | 09:06 |
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Burgundavia | and any package that had a downcheck would change to status=needworks, regardless of any upchecks on it | 09:07 |
siretart | I think I understand what you want to acheive, but that currently nontrivial to implement | 09:07 |
Burgundavia | yes | 09:07 |
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tseng | Burgundavia: eh | 09:12 |
ivoks | shouldn't objects in notification area be background free | 09:12 |
Burgundavia | yes | 09:12 |
tseng | Burgundavia: i sort of gave up on that for now | 09:12 |
tseng | Burgundavia: im not motivated to duplicate the setup for development | 09:13 |
Burgundavia | ah | 09:13 |
Burgundavia | the world is not going to end if you don't love my ideas | 09:13 |
Burgundavia | or implement them right away | 09:14 |
tseng | :/ | 09:14 |
tseng | i thought most of them were fine | 09:14 |
tseng | if i didnt, i beat you into liking my way | 09:14 |
Burgundavia | anybody know if any gnome company is hiring in the usablity/UI area? | 09:15 |
tseng | yeah | 09:15 |
ivoks | heh, they should | 09:15 |
tseng | mediweb or something | 09:15 |
tseng | hang on | 09:15 |
ivoks | Burgundavia: what are your ideas? | 09:15 |
ivoks | sorry, i wasn't arround to listen to you | 09:15 |
tseng | Burgundavia: read http://off.net/~tberman/diary/ | 09:16 |
Burgundavia | ivoks, ok, just throwing ideas around to make it easy to review stuff | 09:16 |
Burgundavia | tseng, I think I saw that one, but cheers | 09:16 |
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ivoks | siretart: hi, i will abuse your revu now :) | 09:35 |
ivoks | wow! icons! :)) | 09:35 |
siretart | ivoks: :) | 09:35 |
ivoks | ok, explain icons :) | 09:36 |
ivoks | and resizing would be nice :) | 09:36 |
siretart | just give me resized pictures ;) | 09:36 |
Burgundavia | indeed | 09:36 |
Burgundavia | there are more icons coming | 09:36 |
ivoks | heart is for uploaded packages? | 09:36 |
Burgundavia | I am doing some to show how many successful reviews a package has | 09:36 |
Burgundavia | heart is for ready to upload | 09:36 |
ivoks | ok, hammer is for not apporved yet | 09:37 |
ivoks | and lamp? | 09:37 |
ivoks | i adore my gnome desktop right now :) | 09:37 |
Burgundavia | lamp is for packages not in Ubuntu | 09:38 |
Burgundavia | supposed to be an up arrow | 09:38 |
Burgundavia | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVUDevelopment | 09:38 |
siretart | tooltipps implemented | 09:38 |
Burgundavia | cool | 09:38 |
ivoks | :) | 09:39 |
ivoks | man, you have too much free time :) | 09:39 |
ivoks | ok, i'll do some reviewing now | 09:39 |
siretart | nah, unfortunatly not :( | 09:39 |
ivoks | you know what would be good to have? | 09:40 |
ivoks | easier download | 09:40 |
ivoks | now we have to download file by file | 09:40 |
ivoks | it would be great to have one bzip or gz to dowload | 09:40 |
ivoks | or even tar | 09:40 |
ivoks | no need for compress | 09:40 |
siretart | hm | 09:40 |
siretart | after the move, that should be no problem | 09:41 |
ivoks | just with .dsc .diff.gz and .tar.gz | 09:41 |
ivoks | great! | 09:41 |
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ivoks | ok, why wifi-radar isn't ready for upload? | 09:46 |
ivoks | (it's not complaining, I'm interested in procedure) | 09:47 |
sistpoty | ivoks: it's a new package and afaik new packages should have 3 motu's advocating | 09:48 |
sistpoty | (at least this way the images are displayed) | 09:48 |
ivoks | ok | 09:49 |
ivoks | and for packages that aren't new, only one motu advocate is needed? | 09:49 |
sistpoty | afaik yes | 09:50 |
ivoks | ok, thanx | 09:50 |
sistpoty | np | 09:50 |
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siretart | does anyone know if sh uploaded kio-locate? it has now 3 sign-offs and should be ok to go in.. | 11:01 |
ajmitch | morning | 11:07 |
siretart | hi ajmitch | 11:09 |
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