[12:00] <matt_> someone must have done this before
[12:00] <matt_> please
[12:00] <gotonpo> but wild cherry pepsi kicks cherry coke's ass
[12:00] <nalioth> matt_: come back later
[12:00] <jasoncohen> matt_, you're having problems with a mouse driver?
[12:00] <nalioth> matt_: you've been asking that for hours now
[12:01] <nalioth> matt_: someone will be in here who can help you
[12:01] <matt_> I'm stuck
[12:01] <unome> matt_ I got MX 700 mouse working the same way I told you
[12:01] <matt_> this command is giving me problems
[12:01] <unome> http://floam.sh.nu/index.xhtml?page=guides&section=mx1000
[12:01] <scizho> search the web matt_
[12:01] <matt_> gcc evtest.c -o evtest|
[12:01] <remyforbes777> socomm: that didnt work
[12:02] <matt_> gcc evtest.c -o evtest
[12:02] <matt_> it doesn;t compile
[12:02] <Saithr> Hey, quick question, first time installer of kubuntu, is this the place to ask questions or is there a seperatae channel for kubuntu?
[12:03] <mrzero> #kubuntu
[12:03] <Saithr> thanks
[12:03] <socomm> remyforbes777: What didn't work?
[12:03] <matt_> errors when I run gcc evtest.c -o evtest can u help unome
[12:03] <remyforbes777> im sorry
[12:04] <remyforbes777> for some reason my nickname was guys
[12:04] <unome> matt_ I wish, sorry
[12:04] <nalioth> Saithr: you can ask here or #kubuntu
[12:04] <remyforbes777> you told me to do make modules && and then make modules_install
[12:04] <remyforbes777> i still get that error
[12:04] <concept10> matt_, what is your mouse model?
[12:04] <socomm> Hmmmm.
[12:05] <topyli> matt_: without seeing evtest.c, no-one can tell why it's not correct
[12:05] <matt_> mx 1000 laser
[12:05] <matt_> logitech
[12:05] <socomm> remyforbes777: Join #linux, they'll be able to help you there.
[12:05] <remyforbes777> ok
[12:05] <ChurcH> whats the diffrent type of media players out there? besides beep and xmms
[12:05] <mirak> how to change the temporary folder that nautilus uses to burn dvd's ?
[12:06] <ChurcH> there was a really snazzy one that could play almost anything you through at it
[12:06] <matt_> evtest.c:96: error: `KEY_ZENKAKUHANKAKU' undeclared here (not in a function)
[12:06] <matt_> evtest.c:96: error: nonconstant array index in initializer
[12:06] <unome> ChurcH: amarok is what i use
[12:06] <stisev> Hi all
[12:06] <cavediver> Hi, i have a problem with thunderbird. It seems the enigmail module fail to start... anyone have that problem ?
[12:06] <stisev> I just switched to KDE
[12:06] <stisev> ****************WOW**************
[12:06] <stisev> What a difference
[12:06] <ChurcH> is that the one that looks like winsucks media player
[12:06] <socomm> KDE == Bloat.
[12:06] <topyli> stisev: it is different yes
[12:06] <stisev> Gnome is nice (seems less bloated) but KDE has some really nice stuff
[12:06] <unome> stisev: you've seen the light? :)
[12:06] <stisev> unome: Yep!
[12:06] <stisev> KDE also came with konversation
[12:07] <stisev> which I'm really, REALLY liing
[12:07] <stisev> liking
[12:07] <stisev> XChat is nice and all but konversation is nicer imo :)
[12:07] <unome> Konvie is lil bugy tho ;(
[12:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it was a media player and i can't remeber what it was
[12:07] <stisev> Really?
[12:07] <unome> yes atleast for me
[12:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but it was kinda round the main control
[12:07] <virgule> how to disable some modules? ie: ieee1394?
[12:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> in the center
[12:07] <nalioth> stisev: irssi
[12:08] <concept10> virgule, rmmod
[12:08] <unome> irssi is DA bomb :)
[12:08] <virgule> thx, does it disable permanently?
[12:08] <topyli> ChurcH_of_FoamY: are you talking about audio player or all-round media players?
[12:08] <stisev> What;s weird is there's no "open terminal" in the context menu of KDE
[12:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> all round
[12:08] <concept10> virgule, I think you can comment it out in /etc/modules
[12:08] <nalioth> stisev: its under 'actions'
[12:09] <topyli> ChurcH_of_FoamY: mplayer, xine, vlc
[12:09] <unome> stisev: it's under utilities
[12:09] <socomm> My god, Konversation is a great piece of poop.
[12:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> mplayer i think thats it and vlc isen't that bad either
[12:09] <nalioth> unome: he's talking context menu
[12:09] <unome> oh
[12:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i think mplayer comes really close to wm9
[12:10] <topyli> ChurcH_of_FoamY: crappy playlist though
[12:10] <socomm> mplayer is alot better than wm9 ....
[12:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea
[12:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hey i used windows most of my life
[12:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so i have to compare stuff to that
[12:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> even though there is no comarason for most of the things
[12:11] <scizho> windows is the best
[12:11] <stisev> irssi? hehe
[12:11] <scizho> for gaming
[12:11] <unome> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you are forgiven for your sins (using windoze)
[12:11] <scizho> :P
[12:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok
[12:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^ yay
[12:11] <topyli> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i've let go of the dream of an do-all-end-all media player
[12:11] <topyli> ChurcH_of_FoamY: so i've separated audio and video stuff
[12:11] <stisev> irsii is OK for a CLI IRC client
[12:11] <concept10> matt_, this may help you: http://floam.sh.nu/index.xhtml?page=guides&section=mx1000
[12:11] <stisev> socomm: What??? Why do you say that?
[12:12] <stisev> (Konversation)
[12:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea but i use file assoiciations to take care of that
[12:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i use multiple players for diffrent things
[12:12] <stisev> I like Konsole heh
[12:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> some are better than others at a specific type of media
[12:12] <Dr_Melectaus> Hi there
[12:12] <nalioth> stisev: you'll like gnome-terminal better (and eterm is better than both)
[12:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so i make the associations as needed
[12:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i love ubuntu's console
[12:13] <stisev> nalioth: I've tried gnome-terminal
[12:13] <topyli> ChurcH_of_FoamY: with video, you don't need much of a playlist. with audio, it's the n:o 1 factor
[12:13] <nalioth> stisev: try eterm
[12:13] <stisev> It's nice I guess but KDE's looks really nice
[12:13] <stisev> eterm?
[12:13] <dennis_> anyone has any ideas on this: Gaim has sound in Gnome, but not in KDE?
[12:13] <stisev> nalioth is that in KDE too?
[12:13] <dennis_> on my laptop
[12:13] <unome> eterm, aterm xterm ...
[12:13] <stisev> ok
[12:13] <stisev> unome: KDE has xterm
[12:13] <scizho> doesnt kde use kopete?
[12:14] <nalioth> stisev: you'll need to use apt or synaptic to get it
[12:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea
[12:14] <stisev> what's the difference in Xterm
[12:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> my suggestion to you all
[12:14] <stisev> nalioth: I used synaptic to install KDE
[12:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> from a linux noobs point of view
[12:14] <stisev> nalioth: It looks like I have xterm
[12:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> never install kubuntu alone
[12:14] <stisev> nalioth: is that OK?
[12:14] <stisev> (the same thing_)
[12:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's way to difficult to use
[12:14] <virgule> is this really mendatory to have like 3 gpg-agents and 3 dbus-daemon- running?
[12:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so install ubuntu first than apt-get kubuntu
[12:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and you'll have extreem ease of use
[12:14] <stisev> Is there any way to bind the START MENU BUTTON on my laptop to KDE's start menu-type thing
[12:15] <Fazer> I am soo bored that I ate all my cookies
[12:15] <^thehatsrule^> windows button? should do that auto
[12:15] <cavediver> Noone have problems installing enigmail for thunderbird 1.0.2 ?
[12:15] <concept10> cavediver, nope, whats the problem?
[12:16] <nalioth> stisev: there are plenty of terminal emulators
[12:16] <unome> stisev: try Kcontrol > Regional & Accessibilities > Keyboard Shortcuts
[12:16] <nalioth> stisev: i personally think Konsole blows
[12:16] <conffrey> hi everybody
[12:16] <cavediver> concept10:  Warning: Enigmime module not available
[12:16] <cavediver> ERROR: Failed to access Enigmime service!
[12:16] <nalioth> stisev: gnome-terminal is satisfying
[12:16] <cavediver> Enigmime Service not available
[12:16] <stisev> nalioth: why though?
[12:16] <nalioth> stisev: but eterm roX0rs
[12:16] <stisev> nalioth: it all seems the same tko me.
[12:16] <stisev> nalioth: I like the tabs in Konsole
[12:16] <virgule> xterminal is my personal fav (part of XFce4 desktop)
[12:16] <concept10> cavediver, how did you install it?
[12:16] <stisev> nalioth: instead of having tens of terminal windows open, I have one with tabs
[12:16] <mig`> o
[12:17] <nalioth> stisev: then use Konsole, and leave the tweaks and mods to us folks who can't stay away from the .rc files
[12:17] <airmikey> yo guys  hows breezy
[12:17] <cavediver> concept10: using the xpi.
[12:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> broken still
[12:17] <cavediver> airmikey: it's a mess.
[12:17] <nalioth> stisev: two words "gnu screen"
[12:17] <airmikey> any 1 here running it in 64 bit mode
[12:17] <cavediver> went back to hoary
[12:17] <airmikey> really
[12:17] <stisev> nalioth: GNU screen?
[12:17] <cavediver> airmikey: i did.. went back to hoary i386 from breezy AMD64
[12:17] <stisev> nalioth: You have to understand that I'm still somewhat new to Linux :p
[12:17] <nalioth> stisev: i can have hundreds of terminal sessions going in ONE gnome-term
[12:18] <stisev> Ah cool
[12:18] <stisev> nalioth: cool
[12:18] <stisev> nalioth: Do you know how to change from 24 hour time to 12 hour time in GDE
[12:18] <concept10> cavediver, hmm, i dont know, maybe try reinstall
[12:18] <mig`> i'm about to install ubuntu from the dvd, however in order for it to work, i am going to have to make sure the initrd file loads usb2.0 drivers (so that the kernel can find the hdd where i'm going to install ubuntu to), is there a way to do this from the installer? or do i have to install ubuntu, then boot into the livecd and recompile the initrd file?
[12:18] <topyli> nalioth: i didn't ever realize "gnu screen" was two words
[12:18] <nalioth> stisev: completely new and learning exponentially, i'd say
[12:18] <stisev> nalioth: ??
[12:18] <mig`> please someone help me, its the only thing keeping me from using ubuntu at the moment, and i want to use ubuntu
[12:19] <nalioth> stisev: you've just learned of many different terminal emulators
[12:19] <mig`> i dont know how to make an initrd file, or (better yet) can i specify built in usb 2.0 support into the kernel?
[12:19] <nalioth> stisev: not to mention 'gnu screen'
[12:19] <mig`> (from the installer)
[12:19] <stisev> nalioth: Do you know how to change form 24 hour time -> 12 hour itime in KDE
[12:19] <zenlunatic> how will one upgrade to breezy from hoary when breezy is made available for final release?
[12:19] <nalioth> topyli: how many words did you think it was?
[12:19] <stisev> nalioth: also, do you know how to change the one click open behavior to two clicks (to open a file)
[12:19] <topyli> nalioth: one of course :)
[12:19] <cavediver> concept10: it's funny. I'm installing 0.92 and that's what it sais after installing. But after a restart it sais 0.90
[12:20] <nalioth> stisev: in the clock settings (or international) i'm not sure, i dont use KDE all that much
[12:20] <nalioth> stisev: the oneclicktwoclick stuff is in konqerors prefs, i believe
[12:20] <Afroman> hej
[12:21] <nalioth> stisev: but if anyone is in there, #kubuntu would be better to ask
[12:21] <concept10> mig`, you are trying to install to usb external drive?
[12:21] <jasoncohen> stisev, that can be changed in kcontrol
[12:21] <mig`> concept10: correct
[12:21] <concept10> mig`, why not internal and forget the hassle?
[12:21] <mig`> i've completed 1st stage of install before, however i can't boot into the system after the reboot
[12:21] <nalioth> zenlunatic: by simply changing 'hoary' to 'breezy' in your sources.list (people dont do this now, or you'll be sorry)
[12:21] <mig`> concept10: internal is windows (which i use for work), plus i'd like to walk with my ubuntu installation
[12:21] <Afroman> I have a question guys, how does one sees what hardware is in the computer, and if their drivers work fine
[12:22] <stisev> nalioth: what exactly IS #kubuntu?
[12:22] <jasoncohen> stisev, open kcontrol, go to peripherals and then mouse- choose double click rather than the default single click
[12:22] <stisev> nalioth: KDE ubuntu?
[12:22] <nalioth> stisev: the chat room concerning kubuntu
[12:22] <nalioth> stisev: chat rooms names all start with #
[12:22] <concept10> mig`, bios must support booting from USB, check the wiki, someone wrote a page up, you just have to look around
[12:22] <virgule> ANYTHING working with breezy
[12:22] <jasoncohen> stisev, you can install KDE on ubuntu. apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:22] <virgule> ?
[12:22] <Afroman> I have a question guys, how does one sees what hardware is in the computer, and if their drivers work fine
[12:22] <mig`> concept10: the problem is that after 'linux is uncompressed' i can't get past pivot_root
[12:23] <mig`> my guess is that it can't find the block device (because the usb driver hasn't been installed and thus it cant detect it)
[12:23] <jasoncohen> stisev, kubuntu allows users to install KDE by default w/o having to install it themselves
[12:23] <mig`> concept10: my bios does all of this
[12:23] <jasoncohen> stisev, basically, anything in debian is also in ubuntu
[12:23] <Xira> oh my god.
[12:23] <mig`> i install grub to the usb hdd, and in bios i make it primary disk, so i just boot into ubuntu (if its plugged in)
[12:23] <Afroman> I have a question guys, how does one sees what hardware is in the computer, and if their drivers work fine
[12:24] <Xira> Ubuntu even detected my wireless card that isn't supported by ndiswrapper
[12:24] <Xira> i heart ubuntu
[12:24] <Xira> ^_^
[12:24] <inemo> does anyone know if WINE running under ubuntu will run MSN 7?
[12:24] <mig`> heh, my wireless card was detected too :p
[12:24] <mig`> ok, i'm checking out the wiki
[12:24] <thenuke> inemo: do not use wine for such task X-I
[12:24] <unome> inemo: wine runs everything for me under Ubuntu
[12:24] <thenuke> inemo: try AMSN
[12:25] <mig`> concept10: you have any idea where i should look in the wiki?
[12:25] <mig`> any keywords to search for maybe?
[12:25] <Afroman> how does one see if hardwares in the computer and if the computer has detected them???
[12:25] <inemo> thenuke: used it, prefer adium under OS X, but want to run MSN 7 on ubuntu as VPC is too slow on my old iMac
[12:25] <topyli> inemo: isn't gaim installed by default? it will handle msn
[12:25] <nalioth> mig`: this may help a little https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TitleIndex
[12:25] <Afroman> anybody can help me??
[12:25] <concept10> mig`, usb install
[12:25] <unome> Xira: dont you love it, Ubuntu detected my digital camera/dl'ed the pics and I was browsing the cam in no time
[12:25] <inemo> topyli: yeah, wanted the webcam support more than anything though
[12:25] <mig`> ok
[12:25] <nalioth> Afroman: lspci
[12:26] <concept10> mig`, http://www.google.com/search?q=install+ubuntu+usb&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[12:26] <Afroman> nalioth, and how do I know if they are working fine???
[12:26] <nalioth> concept10: nice browser ;)
[12:26] <Xira> yeah, I even donated and I pass out ubuntu cds at weekly lan partys
[12:26] <Xira> http://synchronizedesigns.us/ubuntu/
[12:26] <unome> Afroman: what nalioth said lspci and lshw
[12:27] <nalioth> Afroman: you can also go to system > admin > device manager  (its at the top)
[12:27] <Afroman> nalioth, unome, what is what???
[12:27] <nalioth> Xira: keep up the good work
[12:27] <Xira> my wireless network's SSID is "all connections are logged mofo" :>
[12:27] <Xira> thx nalioth
[12:27] <matt_> how do I make all windows open in one
[12:27] <confrey> hi, I can't mount two cdrom, how can I recover datas from them?
[12:27] <unome> it's what is says lspci for pci and lshw for all
[12:27] <nalioth> Afroman: open a terminal and type "sudo lshw"
[12:28] <matt_> instead of seprate
[12:28] <Afroman> nalioth, done that...
[12:28] <concept10> nalioth, unoffical firefox?!
[12:28] <nalioth> Xira: i drive a taxi in houston, tx. you should SEE some of the ssids i pick up
[12:28] <Afroman> nalioth, but I don't see my modem, that is the one I'm looking for
[12:28] <Xira> I can imagine
[12:28] <nalioth> concept10: you let your underwear show
[12:29] <concept10> nalioth, what do you use ?
[12:29] <nalioth> Afroman: if its a winmodem, you are probably out of luck
[12:29] <Xira> my network just uses 128bit WEP.. if they break that it's logged, and it pinpoints their lat/long
[12:29] <Xira> so i can go outside and bash them up with a baseball bat
[12:29] <Xira> :D
[12:29] <unome> hehe
[12:29] <Afroman> nalioth, and how do I know if it is a win modem or not??
[12:29] <James_Ward> Hi, I have a low memory machine without a bootable CD that I would like to install ubuntu on.  Is there a way to boot from sarge diskettes and then invoke ubuntu deoo
[12:29] <nalioth> concept10: what i use is not the thing, when i direct someone to google i tell them to google "search terms" not send a browser string
[12:29] <mig`> i'm following the links, haven't found anything yet, still looking though
[12:29] <Quest-Master> lmao Xira
[12:29] <James_Ward> debootstarp instead of debian?
[12:29] <nalioth> concept10: i'm very privacy aware
[12:30] <concept10> nalioth, I mean what app do you use to see wlan networks
[12:30] <nalioth> Xira: i dont even stop for locked APs, i just drive around the corner to the next shared one
[12:30] <concept10> netstumbler?
[12:30] <Afroman> nalioth, and how do I know if it is a win modem or not??
[12:30] <nalioth> James_Ward: use woody diskettes
[12:30] <Xira> nalioth: good man
[12:30] <nalioth> Afroman: pull the box out of the closet?
[12:31] <James_Ward> nalioth, Does that allow me to install ubuntu?
[12:31] <nalioth> concept10: macstumbler i believe
[12:31] <Xira> i can understand trying to break WEP keys, but when my SSID is "all connections are logged mofo" i hope they undertstand I mean buisness
[12:31] <synthetic_> How do you get file-roller to work with .RAR
[12:31] <Xira> :)
[12:31] <concept10> nalioth, I dont care about if someone knows my browser type, that is always broadcasted to every site you goto, unless you have hacked it off
[12:31] <nalioth> James_Ward: after you get your minimal network-aware debian up and running, you can change the sources list to point to ubuntu sources
[12:31] <nalioth> James_Ward: then you'll be fixed right up
[12:32] <nalioths_dog> James_Ward: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[12:32] <James_Ward> nalioth, I tried that with sarge and it didn't go well.  Woody will?
[12:32] <Xira> concept10: I have my user agent spoofed to Google Browser .3 Internal just to spook people :)
[12:32] <nalioth> concept10: it doesnt matter bout browser type
[12:32] <concept10> I want to change my type to IE
[12:32] <nalioth> James_Ward: yes, woody is far behind current ubuntu
[12:33] <synthetic_> When Google takes over the world, I will gladly join their army.
[12:33] <concept10> there is a firefox extension for it I believe
[12:33] <Xira> yea
[12:33] <James_Ward> nalioth , Thanks, I'll try that!
[12:33] <Xira> try the extension page
[12:33] <Xira> there are a few agent spoofers
[12:33] <nalioth> Xira: i respect locked APs, cuz for every locked one, there are 12 open ones
[12:33] <Xira> nalioth: amen
[12:33] <synthetic_> Anyone know how to get file-roller to work for rars?
[12:33] <Fazer> synthetic_: might wanna start early and rack up on your PhDs ;)
[12:33] <nalioth> concept10: just change it in about:config
[12:34] <concept10> Xira, nalioth  whats the point besides compatibilty?
[12:34] <Xira> nalioth: I understand WEPs are rather easy to break, that's why I have a neat logger + lat/long pinpointer
[12:34] <Xira> concept10: to spook log hunters
[12:34] <takmadeus> anyone here has an ATI card?
[12:34] <Xira> have fun
[12:34] <synthetic_> Fazer:  good idea
[12:34] <Xira> get a free .mac trial but spoofing your user agent to safari
[12:34] <Xira> etc
[12:34] <nalioth> concept10: there are no ups/downs for user agent strings
[12:34] <Xira> IE only sites
[12:34] <Xira> etc
[12:34] <Xira> takmadeus: yes, but i only run 2d drivers
[12:34] <nalioth> concept10: some sorry bastiches send you to differnt pages if you report anything other than IE
[12:34] <Xira> ati writes horrible drivers
[12:34] <Xira> i'm sorry
[12:35] <nalioth> i make up the weiredest user-agent-string i cna imagine
[12:35] <synthetic_> No one knows how to get .rar to work in ubuntu?
[12:35] <takmadeus> Xira: can you give me a copy of fglrx.ko?
[12:35] <nalioth> im sure it makes the webmaster chuckle at who has visited
[12:35] <Dr_Melectaus> is slackware a nix distro? or a seperate OS
[12:35] <Xira> takmadeus: where's that located?
[12:35] <nalioth> synthetic_: install unrar or unrar-nonfree
[12:35] <Quest-Master> Dr_Melectaus: nix distro.
[12:35] <takmadeus> Xira: I deleted mine by mistake
[12:35] <mig`> concept10: how about if i just go with the regular install, but boot into the live environment after install, mount up the hard drive, and re-make the initrd file to load up the usb driver ?
[12:35] <Xira> what dir is it in?
[12:35] <concept10> Xira, nalioth: I was thinking about sending out some flyers in the area telling residents I will secure thier networks for $20 bucks, I drove around with my laptop on day for about 20 mins and found about 30 unsecured wlans
[12:35] <synthetic_> nalioth where do i get those?
[12:35] <nalioth> Dr_Melectaus: slackware is a linux distro
[12:35] <mig`> i just dont know how to do that, (i haven't found anything in the wiki, or the google links)
[12:36] <Xira> that's a misleading advertisement
[12:36] <nalioth> synthetic_: use synaptic (and have all the repos enabled)
[12:36] <Dr_Melectaus> ahhh k thanks nalioth
[12:36] <Xira> you can secure their network to an extent
[12:36] <Xira> :)
[12:36] <nalioths_dog> synthetic_: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[12:36] <nalioths_dog> synthetic_: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:36] <takmadeus> Xira: /lib/modules/(kernel number)/kernel/drivers/video
[12:36] <socomm> apt-get install unrar
[12:36] <Amaranth> takmadeus: Why does he have to give it to you?
[12:36] <nalioth> concept10: i wouldnt do the flyer thing
[12:36] <Amaranth> i'd recommend unrar-nonfree
[12:36] <Amaranth> since it opens more files
[12:36] <concept10> mig`, sounds like a plan, but I cant help you with that one
[12:37] <Amaranth> takmadeus: Ubuntu provides that
[12:37] <Amaranth> search in synaptic for fglrx
[12:37] <takmadeus> Amaranth: well, I asked him if he could give it to me, as I deleted my fglrx.ko by mistake
[12:37] <nalioth> concept10: i'd put flyers up advertising "tired of windows? i'll help you gain freedom!!" and help em with ubuntu
[12:37] <Amaranth> takmadeus: Reinstall the package
[12:37] <jasoncohen> does only main & restricted get non-security updates after a release?
[12:37] <Amaranth> jasoncohen: Err, you mean super critical crasher fixes?
[12:37] <takmadeus> Amaranth: what is its name?
[12:37] <jasoncohen> i.e - should there be a hoary-updates line for universe and multiverse
[12:37] <Amaranth> takmadeus: search in synaptic for fglrx
[12:38] <mig`> can anyone help me?
[12:38] <mig`> hmm, let me google it
[12:38] <Amaranth> jasoncohen: those exist but i don't think the MOTUs have time to put anything in them
[12:38] <concept10> nalioth, when people come to my house they always want to use my computer, I have setup another box in the back room for guests, they always ask "What is this umboontoom thing?"
[12:38] <mig`> what is the command to switch into the environment of the installed system from the livecd, is it: chroot ?
[12:38] <jasoncohen> Amaranth, yeah- well ubuntu's sources.list file does not include a hoary-updates for multiverse or universe. i'm wondering why.
[12:38] <concept10> mig`, yes
[12:38] <Amaranth> mig`: yeah
[12:38] <nalioth> concept10: and i hope you send them home with the fancy official ubuntu cd package
[12:38] <Xira> takmadeus: http://synchronizedesigns.us/fglrx.ko
[12:38] <takmadeus> Amaranth: I have fglrx aready installed.... but in its files there is no flgrx.ko....
[12:39] <Xira> that's mine using the 2d drivers
[12:39] <Amaranth> takmadeus: Tell synaptic to reinstall the package
[12:39] <concept10> nalioth, I want to order some, do they take forvever? Im in texas also
[12:39] <jasoncohen> Amaranth, also, there appears not to be a security line for multiverse
[12:39] <mig`> ok
[12:39] <takmadeus> Amaranth: OK, I'll do it, thanks
[12:39] <mig`> i guess i'll just read up
[12:39] <nalioth> concept10: burn copies off, until you recieve the official ones
[12:39] <mig`> on it... thanks
[12:39] <Amaranth> jasoncohen: yeah, multiverse is mostly closed source things that are packaged, they can't make security updates for them
[12:39] <nalioth> concept10: i have a mac and give away more x86 copies
[12:40] <Amaranth> err
[12:40] <strider> hi
[12:40] <Will__> I have little linux goody-bags at the door at my place
[12:40] <Will__> Some sweeties, some CDs and a little tux doll to take home
[12:40] <James_Ward> nalioth, I need root.bin and what else from woody?
[12:40] <jasoncohen> Amaranth, so, there's no reason to add a hoary-updates line for universe or multiverse?
[12:40] <Amaranth> concept10: You'll get your hoary CDs some time after breezy+1 is released
[12:40] <concept10> nalioth, you say you drive a cab?  do you pass them out to passengers?
[12:40] <Amaranth> concept10: hehe, they are swamped with orders
[12:40] <Amaranth> jasoncohen: No, not really.
[12:40] <concept10> Amaranth, :) I think some people are abusing the system
[12:41] <Amaranth> concept10: You mean ordering 400 CDs just for fun?
[12:41] <takmadeus> thanks guys, I think I cn solve the problem now thanks to you..... I'm off to try it out.... I'll tell you if it worked, thanks
[12:41] <craigevil> is there an official cd cover image
[12:41] <nalioth> James_Ward: you can go to debian.com and get floppy images from there for woody
[12:41] <concept10> Amaranth, nalioth: Ive seen people auctioning the box of CDs
[12:41] <Xira> openoffice packages are so huge
[12:41] <Seveas> cya all
[12:41] <Fazer> bye
[12:41] <nalioth> concept10: if the passenger is interested, yes
[12:41] <synthetic_> so i got rar and unrar and i'm trying to unrar it but it's failing for every file
[12:41] <synthetic_> i did normal and sudo
[12:41] <James_Ward> nalioth, I am looking at the 1.44 images directory, but it isn't obvious which is the boot disk?
[12:41] <Fazer> Xira: indeed
[12:42] <concept10> Amaranth, go home!!!!!!!!
[12:42] <Amaranth> otherwise i'll be back tomorrow night on crap dialup on windows ME for another week
[12:42] <Fazer> synthetic_: what type of file is it?
[12:42] <Fazer> synthetic_: is it a multiple big rar file?
[12:42] <nalioth> concept10: well i hope they get caught and their nuts roasted (charred nuts taste awful)
[12:42] <nalioth> James_Ward: you'll need several, i believe
[12:42] <thespiritoftal> hi I am a beginner to linux can someone explain me step by step how to install java in ubuntu?
[12:42] <synthetic_> just one rar
[12:42] <cavediver> How can I play .nsv streams ? It should be audio+video. I think it's shoutcast
[12:42] <Xira> hmm.. whenever i boot into ubuntu, reboot into windows after booting into ubuntu, my display is corrupted on windows with artifacts until i restart
[12:43] <Xira> it's really weiurd
[12:43] <James_Ward> nalioth, I see a bunch of driver disks and a root disk, but which one is the boot?  Any idea?
[12:43] <nalioths_dog> thespiritoftal: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[12:43] <craigevil> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[12:43] <concept10> Xira, have you tried streamtuner?
[12:43] <nalioth> James_Ward: i'd imagine it would be the root disk
[12:43] <Xira> concept10: no, what's that?
[12:44] <James_Ward> nalioth, Oh, okay, I'll try that, thanks!
[12:44] <nalioths_dog> craigevil: Please do not advise ubuntuguide. Item 3 here explains https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[12:44] <concept10> Xira, sudo apt-get install streamtuner streamripper     and report back!
[12:44] <Xira> what's it do..?
[12:44] <jasoncohen> huh, apparently there are hoary-updates for universe- and quite a few
[12:45] <concept10> Xira, http://www.nongnu.org/streamtuner/
[12:45] <thespiritoftal> apt-get install gives error saying Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied) Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[12:45] <TokenBad> use sudo
[12:45] <thespiritoftal> how?
[12:46] <TokenBad> sudo apt-get install streamtuner streamripper
[12:46] <synthetic_> Anyone know?
[12:46] <Xira> btw
[12:46] <synthetic_> I'm trying to unrar a .rar and it fails on every picture inside
[12:46] <Xira> when i do an apt-get update
[12:46] <Xira> I'm getting this
[12:46] <nalioths_dog> thespiritoftal: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:46] <thespiritoftal> plz someone help me
[12:46] <cavediver> Noone know how to play .nsv files ?
[12:46] <Xira> root@evermore:/home/nicholas # apt-get update
[12:46] <Xira> Ign http://people.debian.org ./ Release.gpg
[12:46] <Xira> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release.gpg [189B] 
[12:46] <Xira> Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release.gpg [189B] 
[12:46] <Xira> Ign http://people.debian.org ./ Release
[12:46] <Xira> Ign http://people.debian.org ./ Packages
[12:46] <Xira> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release
[12:46] <Xira> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release
[12:46] <TokenBad> thespiritoftal
[12:46] <Xira> Hit http://people.debian.org ./ Packages
[12:46] <nalioth> xira
[12:46] <nalioth> xira
[12:46] <freddy> i cant believe this...this is amazing...and ironic at the same time......all this years i had so much problem trying to plug my ipod on linux....and now that i get ubuntu it is so easy......but the ironic part is...now the basics wont work.....SOUND and WIRELESS.....shit :(
[12:46] <TokenBad> use sudo
[12:46] <cavediver> no spam !!!
[12:46] <TokenBad> like I showed xira
[12:47] <nalioth> please dont flood
[12:47] <nalioth> Xira: you will be ground into sausage for sure
[12:47] <Seveas> good thing i didn't go yet :)
[12:47] <^thehatsrule^> synthetic_: use unrar x files.rar ?
[12:47] <synthetic_> x?
[12:47] <ryan_> anyone here using Nvidia module and AMD k7 kernel?
[12:47] <virgule> oops
[12:47] <^thehatsrule^> synthetic_: thats the command for eXtract with paths
[12:48] <unome> ryan_: yes. Linux kubuntu.homelinux.org 2.6.10-5-k7 #1 Fri Jun 24 18:51:20 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:48] <ryan_> heard that using a 686 compiled kernel, fixes the stability and freeze problems...anyone try
[12:48] <unome> ryan_: it did for me.
[12:48] <freddy> i dont know why the sound wont work......when i try to play something....i can see it playing it....but i cant hear shit :(
[12:48] <jode> Does anyone know anything about "apollon"?
[12:48] <freddy> jode,  rocks
[12:49] <virgule> freedy: have you played with the mixer?
[12:49] <Quest-Master> freddy: Checked Volume Control?
[12:49] <cavediver> fu**, I hate Nullsoft stupid video crap..
[12:49] <nalioth> freddy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[12:49] <ryan_> unome: so are you using i686 or k7
[12:49] <jode> I can't locate my giFT???
[12:49] <freddy> ryan_, are you ryan_ ?? from boston?
[12:49] <ryan_> nope
[12:49] <unome> ryan_: k7
[12:49] <freddy> Quest-Master, yes nalioth ok, virgule what mixer?
[12:50] <Quest-Master> The one in your system tray
[12:50] <synthetic_> ^thehatsrule^, I did unrar -e and its gives me an error, unrar -x does it but all the files still fail
[12:50] <ryan_> unome: any freezes I have an old mx 420 and it is constant...same kernel as you now
[12:50] <virgule> alsamixer
[12:50] <Melectaus_> you know how your ethernet is eth, what would a wifi pcmcia card be?
[12:50] <synthetic_> why does everything in Linux have to be complicated
[12:50] <synthetic_> gaaaah
[12:50] <freddy> Quest-Master, yes it wont sound :(
[12:50] <nalioth> synthetic_: if you run "unrar --help" it will give you lots of it
[12:50] <unome> no freezes here, using 6600 GT just fine.
[12:50] <Seveas> synthetic_, that is the opposite of true
[12:50] <Quest-Master> Odd
[12:50] <Quest-Master> What is your card?
[12:50] <^thehatsrule^> synthetic_: perhaps the files are corrupt? i just use unrar x file.rar just fine..
[12:50] <Seveas> synthetic_, on windows everything has to be compiled, linux has interpreters for a LOT of interpreted languages...
[12:51] <Melectaus_> Quest-Master, was that directed at me?
[12:51] <jode> can anyone tell me the path for my giFT installion in apollon?
[12:51] <ryan_> unome:  any specials in the xorg.conf?  Nvagp is set to what in your setup
[12:51] <Seveas> (and uses these a lot by default)
[12:51] <freddy> Quest-Master, no card, integrated.
[12:51] <nalioth> synthetic_: when you ask unrar for help, it will tell you how to keep all damaged files
[12:51] <unome> ryan_: let me check.
[12:51] <synthetic_> Seveas, on a technical standpoint i'm sure it's a lot more streamlined, but from my perspective, I'm on a soundless, mouseless laptop that is using my Xbox's cat5 because I can't get wireless
[12:52] <flugh> where's the desktop switching app?
[12:52] <jode> I need help with Apollon.
[12:52] <cavediver> nsv someone ?
[12:52] <Quest-Master> Melectaus_: What?
[12:52] <cavediver> I need help
[12:52] <craigevil> Anyone know wher you can get cd cover images for ubuntu?
[12:53] <ryan_> jode: Gift can be found in /usr/bin or sbin, just look.  All settings are in your home in .gift
[12:53] <unome> ryan_: dont have Nvagp.
[12:53] <ryan_> unome: cool, I'll try disabeling the NVagp and use the linux AGP  thanks
[12:53] <unome> yw
[12:53] <jode> thanks ryan!
[12:53] <ryan_> np
[12:54] <synthetic_> nalioth, i'm in the help menu right now, and i see nothing
[12:54] <Xira> http://rafb.net/paste/results/3g1oR228.html -- can anyone help me?
[12:54] <synthetic_> nothing that will solve my problem at least
[12:54] <synthetic_> and no, the files aren't corrupt
[12:55] <ryan_> Xira:  that shows that two repos are not found...maybe wrongly typed?
[12:55] <Xira> ryan_: I haven't booted into Ubuntu in a long time
[12:55] <Xira> a few months
[12:55] <Melectaus_> you know how your ethernet is eth, what would a wifi pcmcia card be?
[12:55] <Seveas> nerim has changed
[12:55] <Seveas> and should not be used for hoary anymore
[12:56] <Xira> Seveas: so what should I do? I'm sort of lost
[12:56] <Seveas> remove all deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net entries from your sources.list
[12:56] <ryan_> Xira: and now you want to do work in it?  check your /etc/apt/sources.lst and make sure all those repos are still active
[12:56] <synthetic_> Can anyone please helpme
[12:57] <synthetic_> I'm really getting frustrated
[12:57] <Xira> what should i replace the nerim entries with?
[12:57] <synthetic_> No mouse, no wireless, no sound, and I can't even unrar
[12:57] <Seveas> wb
[12:57] <unome> ty :p
[12:57] <Xira> anyone?
[12:57] <Xira> what should i replace the nerim entries with?
[12:57] <Seveas> nothing
[12:58] <Seveas> or possibly backports
[12:58] <Seveas> Xira: To find out the location of backports, go to backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php
[12:58] <ryan_> Xira what packages in particular are you looking for?
[12:59] <Xira> erm
[12:59] <Xira> http://rafb.net/paste/results/
[12:59] <Xira> oi
[12:59] <Xira> paste is broke
[12:59] <zenlunatic> how official is this channel?
[01:00] <Xira> http://rafb.net/paste/results/IlAgtA58.html
[01:00] <Xira> that's my sources.list
[01:00] <Xira> what should i replace the nerim entries with?
[01:00] <Xira> it's been a few months since i've booted into ubuntu
[01:01] <anto9us> zenlunatic: it's listed on here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/
[01:02] <Xira> anyone? :<
[01:02] <crazyfox> Xira, anyone what?
[01:02] <ryan_> Xira: try ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/ ...add the /dist/ to each entry
[01:02] <jasoncohen> it's strange that ubuntu's sources.list doesn't have a line for hoary-updates universe when there are actually updates available for universe
[01:02] <crazyfox> jasoncohen, i think its for stabilty
[01:03] <x0563511> Anyone have an idea how long a shipit order for 8 standard, 1 amd64, and 1 ppc would take?
[01:03] <afroman> hi
[01:03] <afroman> back
[01:04] <Xira> ryan_: so for example, deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/dist/debian-marillat/ ?
[01:04] <x0563511> anyone?
[01:04] <crazyfox> x0563511, the same time for one disk or 100 (6-8 weeks)
[01:05] <robitaille> x0563511:  who knows.  I'm still waiting for my CDs months after ordering them. But many others have received them already.
[01:05] <afroman> nalioth, about the modem, I don't know if it is a win modem or not
[01:05] <crazyfox> afroman, what kind of puter is it?
[01:05] <afroman> nalioth, I can't even figure out what brand it is
[01:05] <Xira> ryan_: hm?
[01:05] <afroman> crazyfox, I have it in my laptop
[01:05] <ryan_> Xira: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/
[01:06] <afroman> anyone can help me??
[01:06] <jasoncohen> does backports have a GPG key that can be imported to get rid of the annoying authentication errors?
[01:06] <jasoncohen> i don't see anything on the site
[01:06] <anto9us> afroman: what's the model of your laptop?
[01:06] <afroman> Fujitsu Amilo M1420
[01:07] <afroman> anto9us,  Fujitsu Amilo M1420
[01:07] <nalioth> afroman: what kind of puter is it?
[01:07] <nalioth> afroman: i'm 95% certain you have a winmodem
[01:07] <x0563511> so nobody can give me an idea how long the shipit order will take? I seem to remember my first order (2 disks) taking several months, coming from sweden.
[01:07] <afroman> nalioth, what do U mean puter???
[01:08] <afroman> nalioth, it is in the laptop
[01:08] <visor> hi
[01:08] <nalioth> afroman: "puter" substandared abbreviation for "computer"
[01:08] <unome> jasoncohen: if you are using backports.ubuntuforums.org then wget http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/pubkey.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[01:08] <visor> is there an encoder to convert mp4 to another format in gstreamer?
[01:08] <nalioth> afroman: is it built in? if so, i'm pretty sure its a winmodem
[01:08] <afroman> nalioth, sorry...:D
[01:08] <afroman> nalioth, yes it is build in
[01:09] <jasoncohen> unome, it's asking for a username/passwd
[01:09] <jasoncohen> nevermind, sorry
[01:09] <unome> not public any more then
[01:09] <afroman> nalioth, but wasn't that there was a way to install drivers for win modems??
[01:10] <LinuxSword> hi
[01:10] <LinuxSword> anybody there?
[01:10] <x0563511> Will I be able to find a way to play with my motorolla phone under Ubuntu?>
[01:10] <nalioth> afroman: winmodem support is still very small
[01:10] <jasoncohen> unome, HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Authorization Required
[01:10] <jasoncohen> Authorization failed.
[01:10] <mike333> hi
[01:10] <jasoncohen> guess it requries a username/passwd to access the key
[01:10] <nalioth> afroman: you'd be quicker finding a supported usb or hardware modem
[01:11] <x0563511> ok.... respond if you can read this message please
[01:11] <mike333> hpw do i set up dhcp terminal server with ubuntu
[01:11] <jtan325> has anyone gotten gdesklets working?
[01:11] <unome> jasoncohen: I dont think you can use ubuntuforms backports any more, my bad
[01:11] <afroman> nalioth, no, I know it is possible to fix this
[01:11] <ccc> x0563511: yes?
[01:11] <LinuxSword> i have a UT99 installing problem
[01:11] <jasoncohen> does http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net have the key?
[01:11] <x0563511> ccc: thanks, just checking whether I was being ignored or not :D
[01:11] <nalioth> afroman: there is a way for everything
[01:11] <LinuxSword> anyone can help me?
[01:12] <visor> x0563511: which model you have?
[01:12] <x0563511> v400
[01:12] <unome> jasoncohen: I wouldnt know let me check
[01:12] <nalioth> LinuxSword: you need to ask a question first
[01:12] <ccc> x0563511: oh ok :D svensk?
[01:12] <unome> doesnt seem like it
[01:12] <LinuxSword> well... what can i do about an installtrap thingy?
[01:12] <x0563511> the windows program "P2Kman" works fine, I would assume there is something out there in FOSS
[01:12] <afroman> nalioth, so what is the way
[01:13] <nalioth> afroman: i have no idea, i run a iBook
[01:13] <mike333> im shure its easy, i just cant figure it out . any help would be apreciated. :)
[01:13] <grogoreo> hi
[01:13] <jasoncohen> unome, none of the mirrors seem to have anything but /dists
[01:13] <afroman> nalioth, the modem is a PCtel HSP56 MR Modem
[01:13] <grogoreo> for some reason badblocks is stopping at 35 with the command sudo badblock -c 256 /dev/hde
[01:13] <unome> jason, it would be great if they did
[01:14] <afroman> nalioth, what linux do U run on an iBook
[01:14] <mindphasr> how broken is breezy right now?
[01:14] <nalioth> afroman: ubuntu of course
[01:14] <nalioth> mindphasr: scary broken
[01:15] <jasoncohen> i hope backports does become an official project. then we wont' have to deal with the authentication issues + will have source and changelogs
[01:15] <mindphasr> eek
[01:15] <nalioth> afroman: go here http://www.linmodems.org/
[01:15] <visor> x0563511: im trying the same but with an E380, so far i found 4 apps to to something with cellphones, gnokii, p3nfs, kmobile and the other one i cant remember its name, have a look at kmobile.sf.net or at moto4lin.sf.net
[01:15] <James_Ward> nalioth, It's not recognizing my PCMCIA ethernet card.  Any ideas?  It's a NE2000 clone.
[01:16] <nalioth> James_Ward: i'm sorry, but we're out of my league here
[01:16] <unome> jason, yeah I saw some discussion about that in the forums.
[01:16] <x0563511> The requested URL / was not found on this server.
[01:16] <x0563511> Apache/1.3.33 Server at kmobile.sourceforge.net Port 80
[01:16] <James_Ward> nalioth, I was afraid of that.
[01:16] <jode> what is a good file sharing program for ubuntu?
[01:17] <nalioth> James_Ward: got any other pcmcia cards around (friends perhaps)?
[01:17] <James_Ward> nalioth, Maybe I could install from CD, but I don't see the woddy CD images?
[01:17] <James_Ward> nalioth, I do... I have a 3com.
[01:17] <nalioth> James_Ward: they were at the same place as the floppy images (or close by)
[01:17] <x0563511> visor: all I need is file and .seem access... would I have that with some of those apps?
[01:17] <cmatheson> hey, does anyone know the command to switch to the dvorak keyboard layout in X?
[01:17] <nalioth> jode: what protocol do you like?
[01:18] <jode> doesn't matter
[01:18] <visor> x0563511: i misswrote the server name, it is http://kmobiletools.berlios.de/
[01:18] <nalioth> James_Ward: dont waste time/bandwidth on the full cd image, there are woody netinst cd images available
[01:18] <ccc> jode: for direct connect i'd recommend linuxdc++, for bittorrent: azureus
[01:18] <nalioth> jode: there's emule, gtk-gnutella, bittorrent
[01:18] <nalioth> jode: dc++
[01:19] <soulfly> hi. im trying to " # aptitude install ~g.* " on hoary with uni, multiverse, backport and a few others. The command takes all cpu in the background (takes very long time). Anyone know the complexity of the algorithm?  anyone has a solution?
[01:19] <nalioth> jode: whatever you are used to using
[01:19] <ookii> i'm having the hardest time trying to unrar something, i've downloaded the unrar package but it still isn't working, does anyone have any suggestions?
[01:19] <x0563511> ookii: smack the publisher for using rar?
[01:19] <jode> ok, thanks
[01:19] <nalioth> soulfly: comment the backports until you need something from them
[01:19] <ookii> x0563511: ha, i wish
[01:20] <James_Ward> nalioth, Oooo, I got net!  ;-)
[01:20] <soulfly> nalioth: okay, some cyclic dependancy there that aptitude cannot handle?
[01:20] <mindphasr> cd WebIS.Pocket.Informant.2005.v6.00.ALL.PPC.Keymaker.Only-COREPDA
[01:20] <mindphasr> dir
[01:20] <ookii> ha strider, you're in rockville maryland, i'm from bethesda :-)
[01:20] <lsuactiafner> hey nalioth
[01:20] <lsuactiafner> compared to other ppl
[01:20] <lsuactiafner> how much do i help?
[01:20] <mike333> kan someone help me set up a DHCP  terminal server with ubuntu ?
[01:20] <lsuactiafner> ppl like seveas are great tho
[01:20] <lsuactiafner> i think he helps most?
[01:20] <strider> could anyone help me with cups? I have serched the web, checked the manual but still cannot find any information as to how to fix it
[01:21] <nalioth> soulfly: nah, i just recommend official ubuntu sources
[01:21] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: help? hinder? it's all in the eye of the beholder   ;)
[01:21] <strider> I am a newbie
[01:21] <lsuactiafner> strider : all you need a is a c-cup..
[01:21] <lsuactiafner> rofl
[01:21] <strider> cool ookii
[01:21] <lsuactiafner> yeh suppose i hinder more
[01:22] <ratbert90> hey, is there a unstable/super up-to-date/beta repository server?
[01:22] <lsuactiafner> is there a way to play avi with mplayer on a remote machine via ssh and have the sound also stream along to the local machine?
[01:22] <soulfly> nalioth: ahh. thanks. but it doesn't address my problem
[01:22] <ratbert90> for packages and whatnot?
[01:22] <xxtreme> anyone know how to install spca5xxx for webcams
[01:22] <nalioth> soulfly: nah, but might solve some problems b4 they happen
[01:22] <nalioth> soulfly: apt-get not workin?
[01:22] <nalioth> soulfly: or synaptic?
[01:22] <mike333>  kan someone help me set up a DHCP  terminal server with ubuntu ?   pleease
[01:22] <x0563511> visor: kmobiletools seems to be... lacking in what I want. Basically I want to hack the phone to hell and back. Already done so in windows...
[01:23] <James_Ward> nalioth, Can you give me that link to ubuntu sources.list again?
[01:23] <nalioths_dog> James_Ward: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[01:23] <define> hi guys,
[01:23] <define> just one question:
[01:23] <soulfly> nalioth: I tried to install all packages and now it finished with the biggest dependancy problems list I've ever seen
[01:23] <visor> x0563511: then i must say im sorry because thats all i know about mobile phone in linux
[01:23] <nalioth> soulfly: backports
[01:23] <define> Is the ubuntuguide.org guide trustworthy
[01:24] <nalioth> define: not really
[01:24] <define> why not?
[01:24] <nalioth> define: here ya go
[01:24] <nalioths_dog> define: Please do not advise ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead.  Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[01:24] <x0563511> visor: well thanks though. Nobody else even responded\
[01:24] <define> thank you
[01:25] <FLD> I am root If you see me laughing you better have a backup!!
[01:25] <zukalk> how do i 'chmod -r' my entire $HOME dir to other users, so that only i (and root..) can see what's in it?
[01:25] <strider> lsuactifner: could you please elaborate?
[01:26] <lsuactiafner> i dont think i will
[01:26] <lsuactiafner> maybe i should
[01:26] <SpaceminD> hello
[01:26] <SpaceminD> :)
[01:26] <soulfly> zukalk: i think it's chmod you want..   remove the x-flags from the directories as others... $ find /home/myself -type d | xargs chmod o-x
[01:26] <SpaceminD> i need some help to change my screen resolution,
[01:27] <SpaceminD> i cannot change it to 1024*768
[01:27] <anto9us> zukalk: make them nontraversable -x
[01:27] <define> ok thank you,
[01:27] <SpaceminD> i only have 1280*1024 and higher resolutions :(
[01:27] <define> if i entered a few commands found on the ubuntuguide.org...
[01:27] <ratbert90> What is a good unofficial repository server?
[01:27] <define> what should i do
[01:28] <zukalk> soulfly, anto9us, thanks both. what are the x-flags?
[01:28] <define> like, i changed a few sources lists for my updates an stuff
[01:28] <nalioth> SpaceminD: that is the first time i've seen someone complain about a large rez
[01:28] <SpaceminD> alguns tugas aki ?
[01:28] <zukalk> SpaceminD, h
[01:28] <James_Ward> Me too.
[01:28] <nalioths_dog> define: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[01:28] <anto9us> zukalk: on directories it's traverse ie. "see what's in them"
[01:29] <SpaceminD> nalioth, i did edit xorg.conf and removed the "1280" and rebooted, but i only get 1280*1027 damn
[01:29] <define> thanks...
[01:29] <nalioth> define: how long have you been using the unofficial sources?
[01:29] <define> but when i tryed uodating via the package manager afterwards
[01:29] <nalioth> SpaceminD: add 1024x768
[01:29] <define> i go alot of CANNOT IDENTIFY PACKAGE!
[01:29] <SpaceminD> and in xorg.conf the monitor model ir compaq v500 and mine is a daewoo
[01:29] <zukalk> anto9us, do i need to -r too?
[01:29] <define> err AUTHENTIFY*
[01:29] <nalioth> define: that is common when the packager doesnt provide a gpg key
[01:30] <n3C> daewoo suX
[01:30] <nalioth> define: but for system stability, stick with official repos
[01:30] <anto9us> zukalk: yes, otherwise they can access by using an explicit path
[01:30] <n3C> i have daewoo tico :>
[01:30] <define> ok, doesnt really meen my sysem i compromised does it...
[01:30] <nalioth> define: if you NEED something from backports or marillat, uncomment those lines for that program only, and then comment them back out when you've gotten it
[01:30] <SpaceminD> Section "Monitor"
[01:30] <SpaceminD>         Identifier      "default"
[01:30] <SpaceminD>         Option          "DPMS"
[01:30] <SpaceminD> EndSection
[01:31] <SpaceminD> SubSection "Display"
[01:31] <SpaceminD>                 Depth           24
[01:31] <SpaceminD>                 Modes           "1024x768" "800x600"
[01:31] <SpaceminD>         EndSubSection
[01:31] <zukalk> anto9us, thanks
[01:31] <nalioth> define: prolonged use of unofficial repos, can cause your system to be nonupgradeable (and nondowngradeable)
[01:31] <SpaceminD> i have like tis and i cant get the 1024*768 res :(
[01:31] <James_Ward> nalioth, edit sources.list, apt-get update and the apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:31] <nalioth> define: seen a lot of user have to reinstall cuz of prolonged use of unofficial repos
[01:31] <nalioth> James_Ward: yes
[01:31] <define> ok,
[01:31] <nalioth> SpaceminD: please dont flood
[01:32] <SpaceminD> sorry
[01:32] <nalioth> SpaceminD: you will be turned into hamburger
[01:32] <define> so, basicly, i should undo what i did here, which is this: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[01:32] <cyphase> I just converted someone to Ubuntu
[01:32] <SpaceminD> i am an hamburger now with this 1280* resolution :(
[01:32] <cyphase> from windows
[01:32] <nalioth> SpaceminD: you can try to reconfigure xorg if you wish
[01:32] <cyphase> :)
[01:33] <SpaceminD> nalioth, what is the command to do that ?
[01:33] <nalioth> define: yes, stick with the official repos for your daily updates, and what i said about proggys you just have to have
[01:33] <nalioth> SpaceminD: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:33] <anto9us> cyphase: well done :)
[01:33] <define> excelllent then its settled
[01:33] <MachineScrew> will ubuntu run on a P2 300MHz using GNOME
[01:33] <nalioth> cyphase: keep up the good work!
[01:33] <nalioth> MachineScrew: yes
[01:34] <nalioth> MachineScrew: if you have lots of ram
[01:34] <cyphase> thanx
[01:34] <cyphase> lol
[01:34] <define> and apart from installing a firewall and nessus, is there anything that is an absolute must for my desktop right now?
[01:34] <anto9us> MachineScrew: yes
[01:34] <nalioth> define: you do not need a firewall, by default ubuntu has no open ports
[01:34] <MachineScrew> nalioth: 512mb but not much video ram
[01:34] <IceDC571> MachineScrew: i think you should run a lightweight windowmanger like xfce
[01:34] <nalioth> MachineScrew: gnome will work
[01:34] <IceDC571> ohh.. if you have 512mb of ram then thats fine
[01:35] <MachineScrew> ok
[01:35] <define> oh ok
[01:35] <define> is it counter productive to have though?
[01:35] <define> or useless?
[01:35] <MachineScrew> because my girlfriend got a P2 laptop on ebay for 170
[01:35] <nalioth> define: and no 'phone-home' software that i know of, either
[01:35] <MachineScrew> it has windows 2000
[01:35] <define> lol
[01:35] <MachineScrew> I thought to give her an upgrade
[01:36] <nalioth> define: no, you can have what you like, it's your puter
[01:36] <define> ok thank you for your help
[01:36] <nalioth> define: you might give this a read, its about firewalls http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[01:36] <ratbert90> ok, HOW do I get mplayer?  Do I have to install it from source?
[01:37] <nalioth> define: actually its about firewall frontends
[01:37] <zukalk> soulfly, i get an error about xargs
[01:37] <crimsun> ratbert90, get it from multiverse. You'll need both universe and multiverse repos enabled.
[01:37] <ratbert90> ok
[01:37] <x0563511> visor: check this out: http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/
[01:38] <ratbert90> crimsun, what is a good repository server for ubuntu
[01:38] <ratbert90> ?
[01:38] <define> ok, yea i see...
[01:38] <crimsun> ratbert90, the default ones in your /etc/apt/sources.list suffice
[01:38] <nalioths_dog> ratbert90: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[01:38] <visor> x0563511: yep yesterday i did, but it seems my model isnt supported
[01:38] <zenlunatic> MachineScrew: give her free software
[01:38] <define> well i need somehting like that, cuz, well, im not quite the software engineer i may seem to be (lol)
[01:38] <zenlunatic> MachineScrew: istead of propreitary
[01:38] <nalioth> define: nothing wrong with frontends to ease the text drudgery
[01:39] <x0563511> visor: sorry. Mine is a v400, they support the one before, and the one after.
[01:39] <x0563511> visor: so I assume mine will work
[01:39] <IceDC571> visor: which model do you have?
[01:39] <chibifs> AptGetOrg page in the wiki also shows some repositories that have semi-compatible package listings.
[01:40] <visor> IceDC571: E380
[01:40] <chibifs> Though I really don't think they should list the repo's that have the playstation bios files and Scumm full games :P
[01:40] <James_Ward> nalioth, Should I let it do the coreutils and stuf, or interrupt and swap sources now?
[01:41] <nalioth> James_Ward: as long as you have a minimal system running (can see the net, have terminal, etc), you can swap sources
[01:41] <rob^> can someone give me some advice on this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45684&highlight=dvd+burn
[01:41] <nalioth> James_Ward: you want to install "ubuntu-desktop"
[01:42] <vladuz976> hi i am running ubuntu from live CD right now. i wanted to test hardware before install. seems that i have a problem with screen resolution. can someone help?
[01:42] <nalioth> rob^: try k3b
[01:43] <nalioth> vladuz976: system > prefs > screen rez
[01:43] <rob^> nalioth, ok, but why isnt gnomebaker etc working?
[01:43] <vladuz976> nalioth, i know but that drop down menu is very limited
[01:44] <nalioth> rob^: idk, but i've used lots of em, and for me k3b works best (graveman and gnomebaker seem kinda 'unfinished' to me)
[01:44] <vladuz976> nalioth, best i get is
[01:44] <James_Ward> nalioth, Will xfce4 suffice, I doubt gome will be useful in 32M RAM.
[01:44] <vladuz976> 1024x768
[01:44] <nalioth> vladuz976: on the liveCD i believe you are limited, but you might try the help when the disk first boots
[01:44] <rob^> nalioth, well if it works I'll be happy either way
[01:44] <nalioth> vladuz976: i believe you may be able to pass rez to the kernel at that point
[01:44] <zenlunatic> James_Ward: um. X won't be useful in 32M ram.
[01:44] <vladuz976> nalioth, what do you mean?
[01:44] <vladuz976> nalioth, the live cd?
[01:45] <rob^> thanks
[01:45] <nalioth> James_Ward: heh yup, you are gonna be a console cowboy on that thing
[01:45] <zenlunatic> James_Ward: links, lynx, w3m, bitlbee, irssi, screen get to know them
[01:45] <nalioth> vladuz976: when the livecd first boots, it says "press <whatever> for help, <enter> to start ubuntu"
[01:45] <James_Ward> nalioth, What I am after is the ubuntu flawless wireless.  The ultimate goal is svncviewer and madwifi.
[01:46] <nalioth> vladuz976: press for help
[01:46] <vladuz976> nalioth, ok i am gonna reboot and try that
[01:46] <zenlunatic> James_Ward: and get some paper porn because you won't be viewing it online
[01:46] <vladuz976> nalioth, what to you press to get into the help menu?
[01:46] <James_Ward> nalioth, What is the cool gnome wireless package?  gnome-config?
[01:46] <nalioth> James_Ward: doubtful you are gonna see any gui goodness
[01:46] <nalioth> vladuz976: i have no idea, it will tell you when it boots
[01:46] <James_Ward> nalioth, svncviewer works very fine.
[01:46] <vladuz976> nalioth, thanks
[01:47] <IceDC571> i dont see why windows 98 can run on 32mb of ram but X cant
[01:47] <nalioth> James_Ward: there is a wm for older systems called 'matchbox' i believe
[01:47] <nightswim> and X server from the 90's probably can
[01:47] <zenlunatic> IceDC571: I blieve 98 needs 64 megs actually
[01:47] <crimsun> IceDC571, it can if you have at least 64 MB of swap
[01:48] <James_Ward> nalioth, No worries, what do I load to get madwifi and wireless goodness?
[01:48] <crimsun> IceDC571, you'd have to run a really slim wm (or none at all) with very few extensions loaded
[01:48] <zenlunatic> James_Ward: wtf is "wireless goodness"?
[01:48] <nalioth> James_Ward: not sure, i have ubuntu-desktop on mine
[01:48] <James_Ward> zen, iwconfig and friends.
[01:49] <nalioth> James_Ward: after you get your stuff switched and d/l you can use aptitude to search for the wireless stuff
[01:49] <nalioth> James_Ward: lots of it is there by default
[01:49] <James_Ward> I don't need X at all really, if I can get the wireless working reliably.
[01:50] <James_Ward> I haven't found a distritubtion whose wireless works even as remotely well as ubuntu.
[01:51] <James_Ward> WHat I mean to say is, Ubuntu's wireless is peerless!
[01:51] <James_Ward> :-)
[01:51] <pavel> yeah
[01:51] <pavel> you are right
[01:52] <nalioth> James_Ward: you making puns?
[01:52] <zenlunatic> James_Ward: why would you need X to get wireless working?
[01:52] <James_Ward> zen, I don't, but I love the gui network config tool.
[01:52] <unome> http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/23444-1.jpg
[01:52] <nalioth> James_Ward is being punny
[01:52] <zenlunatic> James_Ward: i didn't even know there was a gui network config tool
[01:52] <James_Ward> ;-)
[01:53] <James_Ward> zen, Oh you should try it, it's excellent!
[01:53] <matt_> any way to get my thumb buttons and wheel working in ubuntu
[01:53] <zenlunatic> James_Ward: um my networking has worked out of the box
[01:53] <bpuccio> unome: nice background, sort of has a blair with feel to it
[01:53] <unome> I like it =)
[01:53] <vladuz976> nalioth, hey i rebooted, i didn't get any help option
[01:54] <JDigital_> Hello, everyone. I have the same problem as this fellow, and request a solution, if anyone can give one! http://lists.debian.org/debian-ssh/2005/02/msg00036.html
[01:54] <nalioth> guys, whats the button to push for the help (boot options, res options, etc) on the liveCD?
[01:54] <James_Ward> zen, You don't have challenged hardware.  ;-)
[01:54] <IceDC571> unome: i dont get it..?
[01:54] <zenlunatic> James_Ward: i guess not
[01:54] <unome> IceDC571: get what?
[01:54] <zenlunatic> James_Ward: i buy apples for a reason
[01:54] <zenlunatic> James_Ward: apple computers that is
[01:54] <IceDC571> "its coming, can you hear it?"
[01:54] <nalioth> zenlunatic: be nice
[01:54] <James_Ward> zen, I'm installing on a p166 MMX with 32M RAM and no bootable CD.
[01:54] <nalioth> James_Ward is hardcore
[01:55] <unome> IceDC571: you mean you can't hear anything? check your sound lol
[01:55] <James_Ward> zen, I have an 17" powerbook... it runs OS X.
[01:55] <IceDC571> unome: there we go, got some alsa static
[01:55] <borkdox> any breezy amd64 users?
[01:55] <nalioth> James_Ward: it'll run ubuntu fine, too if ya got a supported usb wifi dongle (or a cat5 cable)
[01:55] <vladuz976> no one else here has the resolution problem i have?
[01:55] <James_Ward> nalioth, I had ubuntu on it, but th tou
[01:56] <James_Ward> nalioth, I couldn't stand that it wouldn't use the builtin wireless.
[01:56] <nalioth> James_Ward: to me, that'd be a small thing
[01:56] <nalioth> James_Ward: i'm fixin to buy a new imac, and its gonna have ubuntu on it
[01:57] <nalioth> James_Ward: cat5 plugged into the back
[01:57] <James_Ward> nalioth, It is small, but it just didn't lok right with a wireless card sticking out of it... ;-)
[01:57] <matt_> anyone in here using a mx 1000 laser mouse..... need some help please
[01:57] <nalioth> James_Ward: you're not so hardcore to open it up and hardwire it right to the board?
[01:57] <James_Ward> nalioth, I don't do hardware.  :-)
[01:58] <nalioth> James_Ward: it's easy. i've replaced the HD in this iBook myself
[01:58] <JDigital_> Hello, everyone. I have the same problem as this fellow, and request a solution, if anyone can give one! http://lists.debian.org/debian-ssh/2005/02/msg00036.html
[01:58] <James_Ward> nalioth, HDs are pretty plug 'N play.
[01:58] <nalioth> James_Ward: have a new G4 ibook that i'm debating opening and hardwiring a supported usb wifi thing inside
[01:58] <James_Ward> nalioth, Replacing the wireless would be another story?
[01:59] <James_Ward> nalioth Really?  I thought that would be hard?
[02:00] <nalioth> James_Ward: not at all
[02:00] <James_Ward> nalioth, I wish someone else would have suggested installing from woody before the last 10 attempts from sarge.
[02:00] <nalioth> James_Ward: well, we come and go in here, guess you have been missing me (or some1 who could've suggested woody)
[02:00] <James_Ward> nalioth, You should get that idea out there for low memory install solution.
[02:01] <nalioth> James_Ward: which idea?
[02:01] <James_Ward> nalioth, Installing from woody.  It's not out there on the website/FAQs.
[02:01] <nalioth> James_Ward: will put it somewhere
[02:01] <James_Ward> nalioth, And so far, it is proceeding exceedingly smooth.
[02:02] <James_Ward> nalioth, Sarge go into a horrible mess.
[02:03] <borkdox> there is currently a horrible mess in breezy's 32bit libs on amd64
[02:03] <borkdox> openoffice is broken
[02:03] <borkdox> cedega does not run
[02:03] <James_Ward> Woody install is a bit primitive, but anyone trying to do this will maybe be able to figure it out.
[02:03] <crimsun> borkdox, one word: "Breezy"
[02:03] <crimsun> :-)
[02:04] <borkdox> crimsun, i like bleeding edge
[02:04] <James_Ward> borkdox, Then you must be willing to bleed...
[02:04] <JDigital_> Hello, everyone. I have the same problem as this fellow, and request a solution, if anyone can give one! http://lists.debian.org/debian-ssh/2005/02/msg00036.html
[02:04] <crimsun> borkdox, then it's a lovable mess
[02:04] <BluesRocker> anybody can help me with install of ubunyu 5.04 ?
[02:04] <nalioth> borkdox: and now you are bleeding
[02:05] <James_Ward> BluesRocker, What the problem is?
[02:05] <BluesRocker> i cant start gnome
[02:05] <James_Ward> BluesRocker, It's never started?
[02:05] <borkdox> nalioth, doom3 runs nice tough, because it has its own libs
[02:06] <BluesRocker> no, i login and that s it
[02:06] <borkdox> the thing is i cannot run half life 2 which was running very nice under cedega without chroot
[02:06] <nalioth> borkdox: i'm sure amd64-breezy has its oohs and ahhs (but also its' "ouch #*$&)(EE*#" too)
[02:06] <BluesRocker> it s fresh instalation
[02:06] <nalioth> BluesRocker: how do you login?
[02:06] <nalioth> BluesRocker: picture or text?
[02:06] <jasoncohen> JDigital_, so, your ssh client hangs on ubuntu if you try to connect to a remote SSH server or does the SSH server on ubuntu hang when a remote user tries to connect to your SSH server?
[02:06] <BluesRocker> text
[02:07] <nalioth> BluesRocker: type "startx" at the prompt (after you log in)
[02:07] <BluesRocker> i tried
[02:07] <BluesRocker> not know command
[02:07] <nalioth> BluesRocker: and what happened?
[02:07] <nalioth> BluesRocker: the command is "startx"
[02:08] <James_Ward> nalioth, A kernel upgrade will likely contain madwifi modules?
[02:08] <goldfish> BluesRocker: you got an nvidia card?
[02:08] <BluesRocker> yes fx5200
[02:08] <nalioth> James_Ward: i have no clue what madwifi is
[02:08] <goldfish> BluesRocker: you might need to get the nvidia drivers.
[02:08] <goldfish> !binary
[02:08] <BluesRocker> ok, where?
[02:08] <ubotu> goldfish: I haven't a clue
[02:08] <James_Ward> nalioth, Provides device drivers for Atheros wireless cards.
[02:08] <goldfish> hmmm
[02:08] <nalioth> goldfish: VESA drivers would get him goin
[02:08] <goldfish> nalioth: Ah roight.
[02:08] <James_Ward> nalioth, Is stock ubuntu.
[02:09] <cafuego> James_Ward: they're not in the kernel. You need additional packages for 'em
[02:09] <goldfish> nalioth: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[02:09] <crimsun> BluesRocker, install nvidia-glx, then execute sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:09] <nalioth> goldfish: http://lists.debian.org/debian-ssh/2005/02/msg00036.html
[02:09] <borkdox> i just wish there was a distro with the way of gentoo but precompiled/binaried (long compiles was my main reason for leaving gentoo and adopting ubuntu)...
[02:09] <nalioth> crap
[02:09] <nalioth> goldfish: disregard
[02:09] <nalioth> fsckig buffer
[02:09] <James_Ward> cafuego, I'm dist-upgrading from woody.  Any idea what package would have madwifi in it?
[02:09] <nalioth> goldfish: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:09] <JDigital_> jasoncohen: My ssh client is Ubuntu. It hangs regardless of which of the four servers I connect to; one freebsd, one unknown, two debian woody.
[02:10] <BluesRocker> tnx
[02:10] <BluesRocker> i ll try
[02:10] <nalioth> BluesRocker: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the VESA driver
[02:10] <jasoncohen> JDigital_, have you tried purging and re-installing SSH?
[02:11] <nalioth> James_Ward: you can search at packages.ubuntu.com for madwifi
[02:11] <thenuke> James_Ward: google ubuntu + madwifi
[02:11] <James_Ward> Thanks.
[02:11] <jasoncohen> JDigital_, apt-get remove --purge openssh-server openssh-client
[02:11] <thenuke> James_Ward: packages.com wont find it
[02:11] <jasoncohen> JDigital_, or you can use synaptic's complete remove option
[02:12] <JDigital_> I'll try that...
[02:12] <James_Ward> thenuke, No?  If I search for ath~pci?
[02:12] <James_Ward> ath_pci I meant.
[02:12] <cafuego> James_Ward: Debian doesn't contain madwifi.
[02:12] <thenuke> I dont know about ath_pci
[02:13] <JDigital_> Removing ubuntu-base ...
[02:13] <JDigital_> Removing ubuntu-desktop ...
[02:13] <JDigital_> Removing ssh-askpass-gnome ...
[02:13] <JDigital_> Removing openssh-client ...
[02:13] <JDigital_> wtf
[02:13] <freddy> ok totem by default can play...NOTHING
[02:13] <James_Ward> cafuego, I'm on an ubuntu system via an atheros card as I type.
[02:13] <freddy> lol
[02:13] <JDigital_> Don't I need ubuntu-base?
[02:13] <thenuke> James_Ward: don't flood the channe
[02:13] <thenuke> l
[02:13] <JDigital_> freddy: that's why I use mplayer
[02:13] <cafuego> James_Ward: Yes, but ubuntu is not Debian.
[02:13] <JDigital_> tabbing out loud
[02:13] <James_Ward> cafuego, I know.  That's why I want ubuntu, it just works.
[02:14] <freddy> does mplayer have a GUI?
[02:14] <freddy> i mean...
[02:14] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[02:14] <JDigital_> gmplayer does
[02:14] <HrdwrBoB> but it sucks
[02:14] <freddy> i know it has one
[02:14] <cafuego> James_Ward: Yes. In the mean time, Debian does not contain madwifi drivers, as they are not free.
[02:14] <JDigital_> gmplayer is mplayer with gui
[02:14] <jasoncohen> James_Ward, madwifi is actually already included in ubuntu
[02:14] <freddy> ah ok nice
[02:14] <JDigital_> mplayer is easy to learn the keyboard controls to
[02:14] <jasoncohen> James_Ward, it's in linux-restricted-modules
[02:14] <cafuego> James_Ward: join #debian and type '/msg dpkg madwifi'
[02:14] <jasoncohen> just modprobe ath_pci
[02:14] <cafuego> James_Ward: ... that will tell you where to find the debian ones.
[02:14] <James_Ward> cafuego, I've been there, done that.  It wasn't stable.
[02:14] <jasoncohen> he doesn't need to if he's in ubuntu
[02:15] <James_Ward> jasoncohen, I'm dist-upgrading from woody.
[02:15] <cafuego> James_Ward: Then perhaps ndiswrapper
[02:15] <jasoncohen> does that work?
[02:15] <James_Ward> jasoncohen, sounds like I need linux-restricted-modules then?
[02:15] <cafuego> James_Ward: upgrading from woody? If you know what you're doing, yes.
[02:15] <jasoncohen> James_Ward, yes
[02:16] <James_Ward> jasoncohen, Thanks!
[02:16] <jasoncohen> use aptitude - not apt-get
[02:16] <jasoncohen> James_Ward, aptitude -f dist-upgrade --with-recommends
[02:16] <James_Ward> jasoncohen, Oh?
[02:16] <jasoncohen> definitely
[02:16] <cafuego> maybe, aptitude fuckes up depends on occasion
[02:16] <xinel> do n do n do oo hey all
[02:16] <James_Ward> jasoncohen, Uhoh, the apt-get dist-upgrade is already well in progress.
[02:16] <jasoncohen> that's what the sarge release notes recommends- apt-get simply can't handle the complex dependencies introduced between distros 3 years apart
[02:16] <jasoncohen> James_Ward, just pray then
[02:17] <freddy> hrmm question...my sound wasnt working....on xmms i opened xmms and changed the driver to eesound....does that means is going to work everywhere in the system?
[02:17] <James_Ward> jasoncohen, Seems to e doing great so far.
[02:17] <JDigital_> So do I actually need these packages, "ubuntu-base" and "ubuntu-desktop"?
[02:17] <jasoncohen> James_Ward, you can use apt-get dist-upgrade w/o issue to upgrade from one ubuntu release to another but woody is over 3 years old. the differences between sarge & woody are staggering
[02:17] <crimsun> freddy, if you use the default Ubuntu sound configuration, yes, using esound will work.
[02:17] <jasoncohen> there are 2x the packages- from 8k to 15,250
[02:17] <James_Ward> jasoncohen, nalioth recommended woody as it was old enough that the dist-upgrade would be more likely to work.
[02:18] <jasoncohen> JDigital_, they're meta packages
[02:18] <cafuego> !dstats hoary
[02:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on hoary... 16270 packages, 1437 maintainers, 31005 MB installed size, 9820 MB compressed size.
[02:18] <tiglionabbit> jasoncohen: those packages are of nothing.  They are just to pull in a large amount of programs typical of an install.  You can remove them and nothing bad will happen
[02:18] <jasoncohen> tiglionabbit, i know
[02:18] <tiglionabbit> oops, i meant that to JDigital_
[02:19] <jasoncohen> JDigital_, you can remove them but why bother? they take up no space
[02:19] <jasoncohen> they're really just there to make it easier for you to install a base system
[02:19] <JDigital_> They removed themselves when I removed openssh-client and openssh-server like someone up there told me
[02:19] <nalioth> JDigital_: you can put them back later
[02:19] <nalioth> JDigital_: after you reinstall the ssh
[02:19] <JDigital_> jasoncohen
[02:19] <jasoncohen> JDigital_, ah, yeah, ok- well now you can apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-base to get the packages you lost back
[02:19] <JDigital_> I have uninstalled and reinstalled it. No effect!
[02:20] <nalioth> jasoncohen: what is the difference 'tween aptitude and synaptic (besides curses and X)?
[02:20] <xinel> anybody know of a site that explains how to remotely manage a linux pc?
[02:20] <jasoncohen> nalioth, aptitude is supposed to have better package handling when dealing with massive ugrades between distributions that have great differences and complex dependencies
[02:20] <jasoncohen> nalioth, it's not really an issue on ubuntu
[02:20] <JDigital_> I like synaptic
[02:20] <JDigital_> good solid program
[02:21] <nalioth> jasoncohen: ah, i was just wondering (cuz of the aptitude zealotry i see in here, lol)
[02:21] <jasoncohen> nalioth, apt-get is fine for ubuntu
[02:21] <nalioth> xinel: use ssh to access the pc, then you have control of it
[02:21] <jasoncohen> and aptitude can't be used together with apt-get/synaptic
[02:21] <jasoncohen> the databases will get out of sync and you'll see aptitude trying to re-isntall already installed apps or apps that were uninstalled for no apparent reason
[02:21] <James_Ward> jasoncohen, Ever?
[02:22] <jasoncohen> and you have to purge and re-install
[02:22] <jasoncohen> aptitude that is
[02:22] <JDigital_> I use apt-get and synaptic
[02:22] <nalioth> thought aptitude used the same dpkg database as apt-get?
[02:22] <jasoncohen> James_Ward, well, most ubuntu users probably upgrade every 6-12 months so i don't really see the need for aptitude
[02:22] <jasoncohen> James_Ward, synaptic can install recommends just as well as aptitude
[02:22] <James_Ward> jasoncohen, but one should never mix hem?
[02:23] <James_Ward> them?
[02:23] <jasoncohen> no
[02:23] <xinel> nalioth: thnx
[02:23] <jasoncohen> it'll completely screw up aptitude
[02:23] <thenuke>  /last James_Ward
[02:23] <jasoncohen> i tried- beleive me
[02:23] <jasoncohen> aptitude's database gets out of sync and it doesn't know what's installed and what's uninstalled
[02:23] <James_Ward> jasoncohen, So having done my dist-upgrade via apt, I should never run aptitude.
[02:23] <jasoncohen> it'll start doing really weird things like trying to install apps which were uninstalled and there's no obvious reason why
[02:23] <nalioth> James_Ward: apt-get is fine for ubuntu
[02:24] <jasoncohen> if you do an apt-get remove --purge aptitude and an apt-get install aptitude the problem goes away
[02:24] <JDigital_> I wish someone would have paid me for the time I've spent trying to get to the root of this problem. I'd be rich.
[02:24] <jasoncohen> yeah, on debian you need aptitude
[02:24] <JDigital_> I've been struggling with it since February. There's a thread about it on the forums that nobody reads.
[02:24] <jasoncohen> woody and sarge are completely different distros- 7-8,000 new packages, completely different dependencies, 3 years of changes
[02:24] <jasoncohen> ubuntu doesn't really have that issue with 6 month releases
[02:24] <James_Ward> All I have ever used is apt-get, the gui-ish ones confuse me.  :^)
[02:25] <jasoncohen> i like synaptic for checking changelogs, holding packages etc.
[02:25] <arbeck> has anyone ever seen a server get owned where after reboot it displays a login prompt that doesn't work?
[02:25] <James_Ward> What's the curses one?  I absolutlely loathe it.
[02:25] <crimsun> dselect? aptitude?
[02:25] <James_Ward> dselect.,
[02:25] <jasoncohen> synaptic is a very good package management gui and apt is the best package management system
[02:26] <crimsun> I prefer aptitude's apt-get form
[02:26] <nalioth> dselect suX0rs
[02:26] <jasoncohen> James_Ward, aptitude has a curses gui that's kind of ugly/hard to use
[02:26] <jasoncohen> synaptic is 100x better
[02:26] <crimsun> dselect is just fine; I simply prefer aptitude
[02:26] <nalioth> James_Ward: but on a console-only system ya take what's available
[02:26] <James_Ward> So, should I ever require a gui, I can use synaptic.
[02:26] <jasoncohen> but dselect is pretty cool
[02:26] <jasoncohen> James_Ward, yes- use synaptic
[02:26] <jasoncohen> the other guis are crap frankly
[02:27] <jasoncohen> like gnome-apt and ksynaptic
[02:27] <nalioth> i personally have never understood how to use dselect or aptitude
[02:27] <jasoncohen> with dselect you can do a clone of a system
[02:27] <nalioth> jasoncohen: ya mean kpackage and kynaptic?
[02:27] <nalioth> lol
[02:27] <crimsun> aptitude can be used identically to apt-get (with the exception of source and build-dep)
[02:27] <jasoncohen> "dpkg --get-selections > foo.txt" on the source, copy foo.txt to the destination and run "dpkg --set-selections < foo.txt ; apt-get -u dselect-upgrade" on the destination.
[02:27] <JDigital_> $10 paypal to the man who can get ssh working for me.
[02:28] <James_Ward> JDigital, :-)
[02:28] <tiglionabbit> JDigital_: apt-get install openssh
[02:28] <jasoncohen> nalioth, isn't there a gnome apt frontend?
[02:28] <DonL> JDigital_, you're serious aren't you? lol
[02:28] <jasoncohen> JDigital_, apt-get install openssh-server openssh-client
[02:28] <jasoncohen> or apt-get install ssh
[02:28] <cafuego> How about real money and not paypal toy money?
[02:28] <JDigital_> I apt-get installed openssh-client after I uninstalled it earlier. No effect. Still won't work.
[02:29] <nalioth> jasoncohen: idk, i use synaptic
[02:29] <JDigital_> Still broke like it has been since I switched to Ubuntu in February.
[02:29] <jasoncohen> nalioth, i was right- apt-cache show gnome-apt
[02:29] <cafuego> Well, my rates start at $165/h or part thereof, so sorry.
[02:29] <nalioth> JDigital_: do you live in the houston area?
[02:29] <jasoncohen> JDigital_, perhaps you might want to try breezy's openssh - 4.1
[02:30] <jasoncohen> sorry- sids
[02:30] <JDigital_> nalioth: no.
[02:30] <jasoncohen> i don't know if breezy has 4.1 yet
[02:30] <nalioth> JDigital_: and if you're considering breezy, perhaps you might want to compile ssh by hand
[02:30] <cafuego> !info ssh breezy
[02:30] <ubotu> ssh: (Secure shell client and server (transitional package)), section net, is optional. Version: 1:4.1p1-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 32 kB, Installed size: 72 kB
[02:30] <BluesRocker> i tried xserver-xorg but said it is not installed
[02:30] <jasoncohen> i guess they have
[02:30] <cafuego> BluesRocker: Time to install it, then.
[02:30] <JDigital_> The topic advises me not to use breezy :)
[02:30] <BluesRocker> from where?
[02:31] <nalioth> BluesRocker: type this: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[02:31] <cafuego> BluesRocker: apt-get install x-window-system
[02:31] <jasoncohen> JDigital_, add a deb-src line for breezy, apt-get update, apt-get build-dep ssh, apt-get source -b ssh
[02:31] <nalioth> JDigital_: yes, that is a safe way to sample breezy
[02:32] <cafuego> jasoncohen: Doing that will make you end up with an ssh package identical to the precompiled one. What would be the point?
[02:32] <nalioth> cafuego: JDigital_ is not running breezy
[02:32] <JDigital_> how do I get a deb-src for breezy
[02:32] <jasoncohen> cafuego, from breezy- not hoary
[02:32] <cafuego> Aah :-)
[02:32] <jasoncohen> JDigital_, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:32] <cafuego> The best way to sample breezy is to switch off your machine and then try to use X.
[02:33] <JDigital_> I mean, what is the URL?
[02:33] <nalioth> JDigital_: clone one of the deb-src lines from your sources.list and change hoary to breezy (anyone else do this, they will pay with their sanity)
[02:33] <cafuego> Gives you the same experience without the frustration of havuing to actually fix it.
[02:33] <jasoncohen> JDigital_, copy your deb lines and change to deb-src
[02:33] <JDigital_> aha
[02:33] <xinel> haha
[02:33] <mig`> hmm, the initrd that ubuntu default install makes available loads usb-storage (which technically should load a usb hdd right?)
[02:33] <nalioth> something like that, anyway
[02:33] <mig`> but its still not loading
[02:33] <jasoncohen> is  ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net down?
[02:34] <crimsun> mig`, well, usb mass storage, yes
[02:34] <freddy> hrmm this is weird
[02:34] <freddy> mplayer is not playing anything
[02:34] <jasoncohen> JDigital_, all of ssh's build-deps from breezy can be satisfied
[02:34] <crimsun> mig`, are you trying to use a usb thumbdrive?
[02:34] <JDigital_> Oh shit, I just accidentally deleted the main respository
[02:34] <cafuego> JDigital_: Quit without saving
[02:34] <nalioth> freddy: did you visit the sound problem wiki?
[02:35] <freddy> nalioth, well i got sound working...lol
[02:35] <nalioth> freddy: good!
[02:35] <freddy> but....is there a way like a flag to run a file on mplayer without sound?
[02:35] <freddy> nalioth, thanks a lot
[02:35] <freddy> nalioth, now...wifi is what i need :D
[02:36] <James_Ward> :-)
[02:36] <lsuactiafner> freddy : -ao null
[02:36] <nalioth> freddy: if you have a supported card, you should already have it
[02:36] <freddy> nalioth, linksys...only works with ndiswrapper :(
[02:36] <lsuactiafner> freddy : -ao null -nosound so it ignores the audiostream
[02:37] <nalioth> freddy: ah, you know more than I, then (i'm spoiled with an iBook)
[02:37] <freddy> hahaha mplayer plays the file without sound....if i try to play it normal...it just fails :(
[02:37] <freddy> shiaat
[02:37] <nalioth> freddy: do you know the word 'compile'?
[02:37] <freddy> yup
[02:37] <mig`> crimsun, i'm trying to use a usb hard drive
[02:37] <JDigital_> sounds like a sound problem
[02:37] <nalioth> freddy: can you make apt compile?
[02:37] <crimsun> freddy, are you using -ao esd ?
[02:37] <mig`> crimsun, i completed step1 of installation on a usb hdd
[02:38] <crimsun> mig`, ok, and is scsi_mod loaded?
[02:38] <mig`> however, i can't boot into the system to complete step 2
[02:38] <mig`> oh, no heh
[02:38] <mig`> that could be why!
[02:38] <freddy> crimsun, im doing mplayer file.avi -ao null
[02:38] <crimsun> freddy, ...so you don't want sound?
[02:38] <jasoncohen> JDigital_, actually, instead of doing apt-get source -b ssh, you should do apt-get source ssh and then build manually
[02:38] <lsuactiafner> apt-get build-dep mplayer then compile it yourself..
[02:38] <freddy> but i dont get it...all the system bells sound!
[02:38] <mig`> right now i'm on the livecd, i can chroot into the usb hdd where it was installed
[02:38] <lsuactiafner> if you need sound -ao help
[02:38] <jasoncohen> because breezy's ssh requires a newer version of libc6 than hoary has
[02:39] <JDigital_> I'm not particularly familiar with compiling Linux software manually.
[02:39] <nalioth> i dont see why he can't d/l the source from the website/homepage and build it himself
[02:39] <crimsun> JDigital_, it's ok, Ubuntu makes it a cinch
[02:39] <nalioth> JDigital_: its easy
[02:39] <freddy> crimsun, no...i mean..when i try to play a file just normally, and it hangs....so i thought that the sound might be the problem...and i wanted to know how to remove sound when playing......and someone told me that was the way....thats why i did that....and i saw that it actually works without sound
[02:39] <crimsun> JDigital_, sudo apt-get build-dep openssh-server && apt-get source openssh-server
[02:40] <crimsun> JDigital_, then you'll need to compile it as the others have suggested
[02:40] <DonL> freddy, so sound actually kills the whole app?
[02:40] <freddy> now what you said...gave me the video WORKING with sound!!! YAY!
[02:40] <jasoncohen> crimsun, apt-get build-dep ssh will also work
[02:40] <freddy> DonL, yes...but -ao esd worked!
[02:40] <freddy> :D
[02:40] <DonL> weird
[02:41] <jasoncohen> it'll get the deps for both the client and the server
[02:41] <freddy> now...how can i make it default so i dont have to do that all the time =/
[02:41] <nalioth> freddy: i'm sure in your mplayerrc there is a spot for what sound daemon to use
[02:41] <jasoncohen> actually, it doesn't matter since it uses the same source package
[02:41] <mig`> hmm, would it be better for me to edit the initrd file already existant, or create a new one using mkinitrd ?
[02:41] <Melectaus_> Is there any software for burning DVD's ?
[02:41] <mig`> (by chroot'n into the system from this livecd)
[02:41] <Melectaus_> apt-get style preferably
[02:41] <freddy> whats the mplayerrc?
[02:41] <jasoncohen> Melectaus_, gnomebaker, k3b etc.
[02:41] <jasoncohen> Melectaus_, there are many- pick one
[02:41] <crimsun> jasoncohen, precisely, and ssh is a virtual package. It's always preferable to use a precise one.
[02:41] <nalioth> Melectaus_: k3b
[02:41] <Melectaus_> ok jasoncohen tah
[02:42] <Melectaus_> nalioth, ;)
[02:42] <jasoncohen> i like k3b
[02:42] <nalioth> guys, does mplayer have a rc file?
[02:42] <crimsun> yes, in /etc/mplayer*
[02:42] <lsuactiafner> heh, one thing i dont have
[02:42] <bccs> hi there
[02:42] <DonL> freddy, I don't know if this will help, but if you start mplayer, right click on it, hit preferences, then audio....
[02:42] <nalioth> crimsun: how bout in the $homedir?
[02:42] <jasoncohen> why would openssh built on hoary require breezy's libc6?
[02:42] <crimsun> nalioth, ~/.mplayer/config
[02:43] <bccs> has anyone here installed mono on hoary through apt-get?
[02:43] <nalioth> jasoncohen: cuz they're using breezys source repos
[02:43] <jasoncohen> wait- i was wrong
[02:43] <nalioth> jasoncohen: and the diffs and all that mess call for a different libwhatever
[02:43] <crimsun> jasoncohen, it should build fine barring any more recent build-dep requirements
[02:43] <jasoncohen> JDigital_, just do apt-get source -b ssh
[02:44] <jasoncohen> you can then do  dpkg -i openssh-server_4.1p1-4ubuntu1_i386.deb openssh-client
[02:44] <jasoncohen> it worked fine her
[02:44] <jasoncohen> *here
[02:44] <freddy> jeDon YAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!
[02:44] <JDigital_> ok
[02:44] <freddy> err
[02:44] <jasoncohen> i don't quite understand it
[02:44] <nalioth> freddy: you should have (like crimsun said) a ./mplayer/config file
[02:44] <freddy> DonL, YAAAAAAAAAY!
[02:44] <DonL> lol
[02:44] <jasoncohen> as breezy's ssh requires a newer version of libc6 but it works
[02:44] <nalioth> freddy: ya got it switched in the prefs?
[02:44] <freddy> YES!!
[02:44] <freddy> i love you guys all
[02:44] <nalioth> great!
[02:44] <crimsun> jasoncohen, if you compile it in Hoary, it uses Hoary's libc6
[02:44] <DonL> Now I need some help
[02:45] <freddy> better thing is that im tryign with a britney spears video....and she looks ....shiiat...
[02:45] <DonL> I still can't get firefox to print directly. I've spent all afternoon, and finally gave up
[02:45] <jasoncohen> crimsun, so, as long as you compile in hoary, it'll work in hoary regardless of it's dependencies in breezy?
[02:45] <crimsun> jasoncohen, yep
[02:46] <lsuactiafner> what gcc version does breezy have?
[02:46] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: 4.0
[02:46] <lsuactiafner> goin to like breezy very much
[02:47] <lsuactiafner> heh, ubuntu aint bad
[02:47] <jasoncohen> JDigital_, heh, now i have to remove the 4.1 packages
[02:47] <jasoncohen> JDigital_, but it works- the server started up and i could connect
[02:47] <lsuactiafner> with nice init.d and 800mb of deps+libs its pretty nice
[02:47] <jasoncohen> i just want to use the hoary version so i get security updates
[02:47] <freddy> now...hmm...this error cracks the hell out of me....its asking for a font each time it starts lol
[02:47] <mig`> crimsun, right now, i'm trying to call mkinitrd (while chroot'd into the usb hdd from this livecd), it tells me to mount procfs which i do, and then when i call mkinitrd (the call is: mkinitrd -k -o /boot/initrd.mig -r /dev/sda1) and it gives me the following error:
[02:48] <DonL> Every time I try to print directly from Firefox, the browser dies, and nothing prints. If I save the file in another program like openoffice, then it will print fine
[02:48] <lsuactiafner> freddy : get fonts for mplayer from mplayerhq
[02:48] <lsuactiafner> freddy http://www.mplayerhq.hu
[02:48] <mig`> /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: The working directory /tmp/mkinitrd.H5Ustl will be kept.
[02:48] <freddy> lsuactiafner, already did buddy...but i dont know where the fonts go on the system
[02:48] <mig`> /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386: Not a directory
[02:48] <mig`> /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: MODULES needs to be set to none?
[02:48] <lsuactiafner> freddy : lets see
[02:49] <mig`> ideas?
[02:49] <lsuactiafner> in .mplayer/font/
[02:49] <freddy> lsuactiafner, LOL
[02:49] <freddy> ok
[02:49] <crimsun> mig`, does /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/ exist?
[02:49] <lsuactiafner> heh
[02:49] <lsuactiafner> yeh
[02:49] <mig`> yes
[02:49] <freddy> this is what i find like WTF about ubuntu http://www.deviantart.com/view/20175320/
[02:49] <mig`> i call: ls /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/ and i get a full listing
[02:49] <jasoncohen> JDigital_, how did it go?
[02:50] <DonL> I just got mplayer fonts from synaptic. There they were
[02:50] <nalioth> freddy: in your home directory in .fonts
[02:50] <lsuactiafner> wow icecream is nice, and tea is nice
[02:50] <freddy> i just love how it works with the ipod
[02:50] <freddy> its fricking amazing
[02:50] <dennis_> this is bizarre. Firefox has no sound, but IE 6.0 installed via Crossover office has the sound. What gives?
[02:51] <freddy> i hope there isnt a bad bug or something
[02:51] <nalioth> dennis_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[02:51] <dennis_> thx, nalioth. I'll check this out
[02:52] <freddy> dennis_, bizarre lol
[02:52] <freddy> true
[02:52] <freddy> now
[02:52] <freddy> wifi......*sigh*
[02:52] <mig`> ideas as to why mkinitrd thinks /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386 doesn't exist?
[02:52] <mig`> remember, this is inside a chrooted environment
[02:52] <zenlunatic> anyone use jabber here?
[02:53] <mig`> i'm on the livecd now, and that terminal is chrooted into my usb hdd
[02:53] <James_Ward> freddy, It's not that hard in my experience.
[02:53] <freddy> James_Ward, installing it with ndiswrapper?
[02:53] <freddy> i havent had luck in any distro ive tried
[02:53] <James_Ward> freddy, I have a Dell Inspiron 9100 with roadcom that uses ndiswrapper.
[02:53] <James_Ward> Broadcom.
[02:53] <freddy> broadcom.....thats mine!
[02:53] <freddy> toshiba here
[02:54] <freddy> satellite
[02:54] <James_Ward> freddy Mine works great under ubuntu.
[02:54] <James_Ward> freddy, The trick is finding the right device driver from Windoze.
[02:55] <James_Ward> frddy, Do you have Windoze installed still?
[02:55] <MikeStyle> uhmm i ran sudo apt-get install k3b and all it did was update everything i had. and k3b isnt installed. what happened
[02:55] <freddy> James_Ward, hells no :(
[02:56] <James_Ward> freddy, Toshiba install CDs?
[02:56] <freddy> James_Ward, but i downloaded the driver that works for my card
[02:56] <freddy> its a pcmcia card buddy
[02:56] <James_Ward> freddy, Ooooohhhhh, mines
[02:56] <James_Ward> built-in.
[02:56] <mig`> let me try restarting into the installer and doing what i found on a wiki
[02:56] <mig`> brb
[02:57] <James_Ward> freddy, Well, did you find the drivers and load them into ndiswrapper?
[02:57] <nalioth> mike333: did you try installing k3b again?
[02:57] <freddy> James_Ward, im about doing it today
[02:57] <nalioth> crap i hate similar nick
[02:57] <nalioth> s
[02:57] <James_Ward> freddy, ndiswrapper -i <driver-file> as I recall.
[02:57] <nalioth> ask and run, did ya see that?
[02:57] <freddy> James_Ward, yup..
[02:58] <freddy> ndiswrapper is installed by default on the system?
[02:58] <James_Ward> freddy, and then there's a way to ask ndiswrapper if it sees any hardware.
[02:58] <James_Ward> freddy, I don't remember, but I think so.
[02:59] <James_Ward> freddy, let me see if it's on this Casio Fiva I'm on now.
[02:59] <sumon> can i ask questions here?
[02:59] <James_Ward> freddy, Yep.
[03:00] <DonL> sumon, sure
[03:00] <James_Ward> freddy, well, I have hernel modukles anyway.
[03:00] <nalioth> sumon: ask away
[03:00] <sumon> how to grant permission to the current user..
[03:00] <sumon> say I want write in a file > something
[03:01] <sumon> it says permission denied
[03:01] <jtan325> when i try to play a file using xine or vlc, it complains about "insufficient resources allocated". any ideas?
[03:01] <jtan325> sumon, use "sudo"
[03:01] <freddy> i cheated on mplayer and made a symb link to another ttf font i had on my system....lol
[03:01] <sumon> yes i used
[03:01] <jtan325> it gives your "root" permissions
[03:01] <jtan325> sumon, then maybe some other program is using it?
[03:02] <James_Ward> sumon Are you using > redirection?
[03:02] <nalioth> sumon: what exactly are you trying to do (and where?)
[03:02] <DonL> freddy, everything works for you now?
[03:02] <gus> Hello everyone!
[03:02] <freddy> DonL, wifi
[03:02] <freddy> damn i cant install ndiswrapper
[03:02] <freddy> apt-get wont bring it...gonna check repo
[03:02] <DonL> I must profess to know absolutely nothing about ndiswrapper
[03:03] <sumon> say something > some.php
[03:03] <goldfish> freddy: did u try apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils ?
[03:03] <James_Ward> freddy, ndiswrapper-utils - Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper
[03:03] <estebandido> evening, all
[03:03] <James_Ward> sumon, > won't work with sudo methinks.
[03:03] <James_Ward> sumon, sudo -s and then do it.
[03:03] <freddy> goldfish, James_Ward  that worked thanks :D
[03:04] <estebandido> anyone here good with webmin?
[03:04] <sumon> what does sudo -s do?
[03:04] <James_Ward> sumon Gives you a root shell.
[03:04] <freddy> now...to download the driver
[03:04] <nalioth> sumon: keeps a command shell open for 5 minutes
[03:04] <freddy> James_Ward, cant you just throw me the driver you used?
[03:04] <estebandido> i can't get ssh server to start
[03:04] <goldfish> estebandido: whats happening?
[03:05] <James_Ward> freddy, That system is home behind a NAT, can't reach it.
[03:05] <freddy> aww :(
[03:05] <goldfish> estebandido: Is it installed?
[03:05] <estebandido> it doesn't see the host keys, even tho they're in /etc/ssh
[03:05] <nalioth> holy cow! apple just started selling color ipods and they're already available in the refurb room at apple
[03:05] <goldfish> oh
[03:05] <estebandido> yup
[03:05] <James_Ward> freddy, Likely a diffeent driver anyway.
[03:05] <goldfish> nalioth: link?
[03:05] <freddy> link!!!
[03:05] <sumon> thanks a lot
[03:05] <nalioth> goldfish: www.apple.com/store/ click on the red tag at the bottom right
[03:06] <nalioth> goldfish: i'd send a link, but they are all individualized
[03:06] <estebandido> any thought, golfish?
[03:06] <DonL> I really appreciate all you people who have command of the terminal. I usually point and click where I can.
[03:06] <JDigital_> ...and after all that, it seems that it's still not working.
[03:06] <goldfish> nalioth: thanks
[03:06] <James_Ward> DonL, some of us preceed point and click... ;-)
[03:06] <goldfish> estebandido: hmmm, not really im afriad never had that problem :/
[03:06] <DonL> haha
[03:06] <nalioth> DonL: the terminal is your best friend, more power, and it will be with you when X goes home to momma
[03:06] <silent_scream> hi
[03:06] <estebandido> damn.... anyone?
[03:07] <estebandido> anyone good with ssh server?
[03:07] <James_Ward> Seems like ssh day.
[03:07] <silent_scream> i would like to know the kernel version of ubuntu 5.04
[03:07] <DonL> I'm trying to learn, and I must say I know a lot more about it now than when I started with Linux. The speed improvement is amazing!
[03:07] <crimsun> silent_scream, 2.6.10
[03:07] <crimsun> silent_scream, plus a lot of patches
[03:07] <James_Ward> silent_scream, uname -a
[03:08] <estebandido> James_Ward, any ideas?
[03:08] <James_Ward> uname -r actually.
[03:08] <silent_scream> crimsun: is that the the default version after installation?
[03:08] <crimsun> silent_scream, yes. 2.6.10-5-386
[03:08] <James_Ward> estebandido, Mine started out of the box?  I think?
[03:08] <silent_scream> thnx
[03:09] <nalioth> silent_scream: unless you're on a PPC
[03:09] <estebandido> mine worked, and then stopped
[03:09] <James_Ward> estebandido, Ah, so....
[03:09] <James_Ward> estebandido, Any idea why?
[03:09] <estebandido> i used to be able to ssh in, but then i tinkered with webmin
[03:09] <James_Ward> estebandido, Ah, sooooo.... :-)
[03:09] <estebandido> now the server won't start
[03:09] <nalioth> estebandido: you've found your problem
[03:10] <estebandido> yeah, but i didn't do anything serious
[03:10] <estebandido> nothing that should make it forget where the host keys are
[03:10] <nalioth> estebandido: if it did work and doesnt work now, it evidentally was serious enough
[03:11] <estebandido> how would i wipe it out and start clean?
[03:11] <James_Ward> Is webmin part of ubuntu?
[03:11] <gus> alguien habla espaol?
[03:11] <crimsun> #ubuntu-es
[03:11] <nalioth> gus: en #ubuntu-es
[03:11] <DonL> nalioth, could estebandido reinstall?
[03:11] <estebandido> yo, pero no se si puedo ayudar
[03:11] <nalioth> estebandido can remove and purge openssh-server
[03:12] <estebandido> good grief, i don't want to reinstall the whole thing
[03:12] <estebandido> ah, that's better
[03:12] <nalioth> estebandido: it's just a couple clicks of the mouse
[03:12] <estebandido> apt-get uninstall?
[03:12] <nalioth> estebandido: uninstall and purge
[03:12] <estebandido> thanks... brbr
[03:13] <estebandido> brb, even
[03:13] <James_Ward> (be right back, really!
[03:13] <DonL> nalioth, that's something I don't know how to do. Is there an apt-get command for purge?
[03:14] <crimsun> apt-get --purge remove $package
[03:14] <nalioth> DonL: yes, you can do it in synaptic also
[03:14] <James_Ward> What does purge do, exactly?
[03:14] <crimsun> removes unaltered conffiles
[03:14] <DonL> Yes, I know about synaptic, but I'm trying to learn command line. Thanks.
[03:14] <nalioth> DonL: in synaptic it's the 'complete removal' option
[03:14] <James_Ward> A.
[03:14] <freddy> any of you have any idea how to go about listening mp3 on the Rythbox?
[03:14] <James_Ward> Ah.
[03:14] <freddy> Rythmbox
[03:14] <crimsun> freddy, did you install gstreamer0.8-mad?
[03:15] <nalioth> DonL: "apt-get --help" will provide lots to think about
[03:15] <freddy> damn what a name...mad
[03:15] <freddy> lol
[03:15] <freddy> crimsun, no buddy
[03:15] <madmavric> anybody know how i would edit files without root access?
[03:15] <crimsun> then do so.
[03:15] <silent_scream> guys where can i find the kernel sources for ubuntu 5.04 kernel? (2.6.10-5)
[03:15] <DonL> Ahhh. Okay. That's what complete removal does. I didn't know that
[03:15] <nalioths_dog> freddy: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[03:15] <crimsun> silent_scream, install linux-tree-2.6.10
[03:15] <DonL> nalioth, I will read that.
[03:15] <madmavric> how to edit config files without root access?
[03:15] <nalioth> madmavric: only your files
[03:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> all new cartoon @ www.illwillpress.com Enjoy!
[03:15] <silent_scream> crimsun: that was not my question
[03:15] <madmavric> i need to edit apache
[03:16] <silent_scream> i need a site
[03:16] <freddy> crimsun, is that the plugin?
[03:16] <nalioth> silent_scream: www.kernel.org if ya want pristine
[03:16] <freddy> nalioths_dog, ok ok
[03:16] <silent_scream> to find the kernel sources
[03:16] <madmavric> anybody know how to edit config files ?
[03:16] <nalioth> madmavric: you don't have sudo access?
[03:16] <James_Ward> madmavric, sudo vi <config files>
[03:16] <crimsun> silent_scream, Ubuntu's kernel has lots of patches applied. Simply inspecting the vanilla source will not suffice, hence I pointed you to a package that includes both the source and the patches broken out.
[03:16] <freddy> crimsun, ok done....now ?
[03:17] <madmavric> sudo doesnt work
[03:17] <madmavric> james that exact ?
[03:17] <nalioth> freddy: did you read that URL?
[03:17] <James_Ward> madmavric, In what way doesn't it work?
[03:17] <crimsun> freddy, now restart Music Player and load your mp3s
[03:17] <freddy> nalioth, i am
[03:17] <James_Ward> madmavric sudo id
[03:17] <zenlunatic> anyone have a jabber acct on jabber.org?
[03:17] <madmavric> no write permission for file yada yada yada
[03:17] <gus> why xmms freeze when I open a Mp3 file?
[03:17] <freddy> crimsun, woah...thanks man...gotta write all this shit down
[03:17] <freddy> lol
[03:17] <crimsun> gus, choose the esound output plugin instead of the oss one.
[03:17] <nalioth> freddy: when you finish reading it, and implement what it says, you'll be in business
[03:18] <gus> ok, thanks, let me test.. (PD: sorry for my bad english) =P
[03:18] <nalioth> freddy: ya aint got to write nothing down except this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:19] <madmavric> I keep getting the no write permissions no matter what command i try
[03:19] <freddy> nalioth, lol thats a LOT to write down
[03:19] <freddy> haha
[03:19] <freddy> ;)
[03:19] <nalioth> freddy: it's all on the wiki
[03:19] <James_Ward> madmavric, what does the command 'sudo id' produce?
[03:19] <freddy> yeah..it was  a j/k
[03:19] <madmavric> this is most aggravating that root access for configuring files isnt enabled
[03:19] <freddy> :)
[03:19] <silent_scream> no no i can't find the kernel sources... i need a site... the kernel is 2.6.10-5 (after the default installation of ubuntu) i don't need patches...
[03:19] <madmavric> no write permission
[03:19] <mig`> umm, ok, i think there might be something wrong when i chroot into a stage 1 installation
[03:20] <crimsun> silent_scream, then install just linux-source-2.6.10
[03:20] <James_Ward> madmavric, Type in: sudo id
[03:20] <madmavric> i did damnit, same result
[03:20] <mig`> i chroot , mount proc, append /etc/mkinitrd/modules, then call mkinitrd -o /boot/initrdimg -r /dev/sda1
[03:20] <James_Ward> madmavric, sudo id said no write permission?
[03:20] <madmavric> yes for the third time
[03:20] <silent_scream> crimsun: where can i find it?
[03:20] <mig`> and it gives me an error about /lib/modules/2.6.10 not being a directory
[03:20] <crimsun> silent_scream, in the main repository
[03:20] <James_Ward> madmavric, Very strange...
[03:20] <madmavric> ubuntu is very strange
[03:21] <crimsun> silent_scream, just grab it using apt-get/synaptic/dselect/aptitude
[03:21] <madmavric> i dont like being treated like a child
[03:21] <crimsun> then stop acting like one
[03:21] <James_Ward> jeward@fiva:~/Desktop$ sudo id
[03:21] <James_Ward> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[03:21] <James_Ward> crimsun, Good point.  :-)
[03:22] <freddy> ubuntu is DA BOMB
[03:22] <freddy> :D
[03:22] <freddy> i love it
[03:22] <freddy> i have to see if my wifi works tho
[03:22] <freddy> but im too excited making my music list :D
[03:22] <crimsun> madmavric, the first thing you need to check is that /var is mounted with write permissions enabled
[03:22] <James_Ward> madmavric, If sudo id says something about no write permissions... it's not sudo.
[03:23] <crimsun> madmavric, with the default Ubuntu install, that means that / needs to be mounted with write permissions enabled.
[03:23] <silent_scream> all that i ask, is a site to download the 2.6.10-5 kernel sources
[03:24] <madmavric> var is mounted with write permissions, now how do i do that????
[03:24] <crimsun> silent_scream, I told you: any standard Ubuntu mirror.
[03:24] <crimsun> silent_scream, for instance, archive.ubuntu.com
[03:24] <James_Ward> silent_scream, I don't understand how crimsun didn't answer your request?
[03:24] <DonL> well, I must go and barbeque. Thanks again for all your help folks.
[03:25] <silent_scream> another mirror crimsun?
[03:25] <James_Ward> madmavric, Issue the command mount and look for something like: /dev on /.dev type unknown (rw,bind)
[03:25] <James_Ward> Ooops, wrong line.
[03:25] <crimsun> silent_scream, here, choose a mirror for this file: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-source-2.6.10_2.6.10-34.3_all.deb
[03:25] <madmavric> this is all russian to me, for something that should already be enabled
[03:26] <James_Ward> madmavric, /dev/hda6 on / type reiserfs (rw,notail)
[03:26] <mig`> ideas?
[03:26] <mig`> crimsun, i'm doing everythign like it should be done, but mkinitrd gives that error
[03:26] <mig`> that directory -DOES- exist
[03:26] <lampshade> Anyone in here run WOlfET on ubuntu?  Or linux in general for that matter?  I got some questions about some weird behavior.
[03:26] <madmavric> a fucking distro that cant be edited, real bright
[03:26] <zenlunatic> is there a such thing as a blank wallpaper file? a friend wants the blank wallpaper ubuntu uses.
[03:26] <bimberi> madmavric: it might be enabled - these people are trying to get to the cause of your problem for you
[03:26] <James_Ward> madmavric is projecting.
[03:27] <crimsun> madmavric's problem is a case of PEBKAC.
[03:27] <freddy> i wonder if theres a way to make the fonts look crispier
[03:27] <freddy> they kinda look weird
[03:27] <freddy> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/20175320
[03:27] <freddy> screenshot ^
[03:27] <bruno> hey
[03:27] <James_Ward> crimsun, I'm afraid to ask, but what does that mean?
[03:27] <bruno> a dumb question
[03:27] <crimsun> James_Ward, problem exists between keyboard and chair
[03:27] <James_Ward> :-)
[03:28] <bruno> what's the default root password on ubuntu?
[03:28] <mig`> bruno: there isn't one
[03:28] <lampshade> bruno:  use sudo
[03:28] <crimsun> mig`, I'm sorry, but initrds are not my expertise. Someone else here may know. Have you checked tldp.org?
[03:28] <mig`> you can either use sudo
[03:28] <mig`> or set one using passwd
[03:28] <freddy> hehe you guys get that question like 100 in a minute
[03:28] <James_Ward> Peronsally, I think ubuntu's no root login is an excellent idea.
[03:28] <mig`> i haven't checked tlpd.org, let me try now
[03:28] <freddy> James_Ward, hells i agree so much
[03:29] <bruno> tks very much
[03:29] <goldfish> bruno: the sudo password is the password of the account u added during the installation.
[03:29] <crimsun> mig`, if that's too general, try looking in other distros' forums. Fedora and Gentoo both have great resources.
[03:29] <mig`> how can i view an environment variable?
[03:29] <sfilho> hi there! is there some tool that auto-detect my modem on my laptop compaq nx9005?
[03:29] <goldfish> mig`: what is it?
[03:29] <crimsun> mig`, echo $SOMETHING
[03:29] <mig`> ok
[03:30] <James_Ward> mig, echo $whatever
[03:30] <mig`> goldfish, i'm trying to make an initrd file
[03:30] <mig`> but i'm getting an error from mkinitrd, it says that /etc/s)modules/2.xxx/ is not a directory (when it really i
[03:30] <mig`> (when it really is)
[03:30] <chibifs> Blah, this is such a pain.
[03:30] <James_Ward> mig I like set|less
[03:30] <chibifs> Anyone want to help me with this gnome-kde icon script? :P
[03:31] <bruno> i'm trying to compile mono 1.1.8, but when i use "sudo ./configure --prefix=/usr/local", i get "C compiler cannt generate executables"
[03:31] <bruno> where can i read about the origin of this problem?
[03:31] <goldfish> bruno: CFLAGS
[03:31] <bruno> i'm sorry, i'm a complete newbie
[03:31] <sfilho> the modem is the ALi Corporation M5457 AC'97 Modem Controller, but I don't know which driver I can use
[03:31] <mig`> hmm, let me see
[03:31] <mig`> i think i have to set $LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[03:31] <mig`> because i tried: echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH and its blank
[03:31] <mig`> however, in mkinitrd.conf that is what LD_LIBRARY_PATH is set to
[03:31] <mig`> could that be why?... lets see
[03:31] <bruno> CFLAGS, ok. i'll google that.
[03:32] <James_Ward> bruno Sounds like gcc might not be working?
[03:32] <sfilho> anyobe could help me?
[03:32] <goldfish> nah i got that error when installing gentoo, it was to do with my cflags....
[03:33] <mig`> James_Ward, how would i set it?
[03:33] <James_Ward> goldfish, Could also be due to no gcc at all...
[03:33] <cafuego> sfilho: sfilho You need a payware driver for it.
[03:33] <goldfish> James_Ward: true...
[03:33] <mig`> i'm trying: echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and im getting blank output
[03:33] <goldfish> bruno: have you done, sudo apt-get install build-essentials ?
[03:33] <mig`> i tried: set $LD_LIBRARY_PATH /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/
[03:33] <cafuego> sfilho: The last time I tried that particular driver, it didn't want to compile on mine.
[03:33] <bruno> goldfish, not really
[03:33] <goldfish> bruno: ah ok.
[03:33] <James_Ward> mig export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=whatever
[03:33] <mig`> then: echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and i get blank output
[03:33] <mig`> ahh ok
[03:33] <goldfish> bruno: what happens if u type gcc in a terminal ?
[03:34] <James_Ward> goldfish, Good question!
[03:34] <goldfish> :)
[03:34] <sfilho> cafuego, nice, so I have to search for  'payware'
[03:34] <mig`> i get that its not a valid identifier
[03:34] <estebandido> nalioth, James_Ward, I reinstalled ssh-server
[03:34] <James_Ward> mig Drop the $
[03:34] <cafuego> sfilho: Let me find you the site you want...
[03:34] <bruno> ok, you're making me look stupid right now, but i guess i'm being one, really. :)
[03:34] <goldfish> bruno: no im not :)
[03:34] <estebandido> now i have to move the new host key to known_hosts
[03:34] <mig`> ok
[03:35] <bruno> tks for the help, i'd better study more.
[03:35] <bruno> :)
[03:35] <sfilho> cafuego, thank you very much
[03:35] <estebandido> is that a simple cut-and-paste thing?
[03:35] <cafuego> sfilho: I spent AAAGES lookinf for the damned thing, may as well make sure others benefit too :-)
[03:35] <cafuego> sfilho: http://www.consultmatt.co.uk/linux/nx9005/
[03:35] <sfilho> cafuego, ok :)
[03:36] <goldfish> bruno: sudo apt-get install build essentials
[03:36] <goldfish> bruno: then try your configure again
[03:37] <bruno> ok. tks.
[03:37] <sfilho> cafuego, oh, conexant driver :-\
[03:37] <sfilho> linuxant I meant
[03:37] <cafuego> sfilho: yeh
[03:38] <freddy> and then i have to get my tvcard working on my desktop
[03:38] <freddy> and with wifi and tvcard i will be more than happy
[03:38] <cafuego> sfilho: The info about pcmcia (the config.opts file) on that page is really useful too.
[03:38] <cafuego> !info omke hoary
[03:38] <sfilho> cafuego, right... let me try... and thanks again
[03:39] <JDigital_> conexant :rolleyes:
[03:39] <estebandido> James_Ward, how do i copy my new host key into known hosts?
[03:39] <James_Ward> estebandido, Why do you think you need to do that?
[03:40] <James_Ward> estebandido, Are you trying to set up passwordless access?
[03:40] <estebandido> no, but my old host key was interfering
[03:41] <estebandido> anyway, I figured it out
[03:41] <James_Ward> estebandido, I'm sorry,b tu are you having trouble sshing in, or out?
[03:41] <estebandido> it was just copy and paste
[03:41] <estebandido> in
[03:41] <estebandido> out is no problem
[03:41] <nalioth> goldfish: so dja see anything tempting?
[03:41] <James_Ward> So, rm .ssh/known_hosts on the system you're trying to come in from.
[03:42] <cafuego> ugh, stupid recursive symlink
[03:42] <Nylira> Anyone have any experience with VSTFPD and virtual user setups?
[03:42] <estebandido> yeah, i figured it out
[03:42] <estebandido> still haven't tried webmin, tho
[03:42] <James_Ward> estebandido, I wouldn't.
[03:43] <estebandido> really?
[03:43] <estebandido> why noy?
[03:43] <estebandido> not?
[03:43] <James_Ward> estebandido, That's what got you in this mess in the first place.
[03:43] <James_Ward> estebandido, What do you need webmin for?
[03:44] <estebandido> to allow remote logins
[03:44] <James_Ward> estebandido, No.
[03:44] <estebandido> what, then?
[03:44] <James_Ward> estebandido, Checking.
[03:44] <nalioth> estebandido: you dont need webmin to allow remote logins
[03:44] <nalioth> estebandido: just your username and IP
[03:44] <estebandido> just as well, it hasn't done much good
[03:45] <estebandido> except i'm on a local network
[03:45] <nalioth> estebandido: and the problem with local vs wan is?
[03:45] <estebandido> i *think* i have port forwarding done right, but something doesn't work
[03:45] <nalioth> estebandido: it's the same procedure
[03:45] <James_Ward> nalioth, Is inbound ssh enabled by default or must it be turned on?
[03:45] <nalioth> James_Ward: if you install openssh-server its on
[03:45] <James_Ward> nalioth, K.
[03:46] <nalioth> estebandido: what kind of port-forwarding?
[03:46] <estebandido> on the router
[03:46] <estebandido> sending requests to port 22 to this machine
[03:46] <nalioth> estebandido: from where are you tryin to access your box?
[03:46] <nalioth> estebandido: nother local machine or the WAN?
[03:46] <estebandido> ultimately, from work
[03:47] <goldfish> nalioth: yeah :)
[03:47] <nalioth> estebandido: dmz your box
[03:47] <estebandido> no, other machines on the network work fine
[03:47] <estebandido> dmz?
[03:47] <nalioth> estebandido: open it completely to the WAN
[03:47] <estebandido> how do i do that?
[03:47] <nalioth> estebandido: in your router admin screen, you should see a 'dmz' setting (maybe under games/gaming)
[03:48] <estebandido> i'll look
[03:48] <nalioth> estebandido: setting your machine in the dmz will forwared ALL ports to your machine
[03:48] <James_Ward> nalioth, Wow, I wonder if my router... oh wait, it's ehind a cable modem.
[03:49] <nalioth> estebandido: and then all you'll need is the IP from the router (so you can get there from outside your local network)
[03:49] <nalioth> James_Ward: that will work
[03:49] <James_Ward> nalioth, Maybe I can DMZ the router which can in turn dmz a host?
[03:49] <nalioth> James_Ward: you can dmz yours, too
[03:49] <estebandido> sure enough
[03:49] <James_Ward> nalioth, Fasminating.
[03:49] <vladuz976> does anybody know a good ide for C++ on linux(ubuntu)?
[03:49] <estebandido> thanks!
[03:49] <nalioth> estebandido: James_Ward: i only recommend DMZ for *nix boxes
[03:49] <estebandido> and ubuntu is pretty secure otherwise?
[03:50] <nalioth> estebandido: James_Ward: dmz for windows boxes leads to zombies
[03:50] <estebandido> yeah, no surprise
[03:50] <nalioth> estebandido: you wont have any trouble
[03:50] <James_Ward> nalioth, Windows? What's that?  ;-)
[03:50] <nalioth> James_Ward: it's a virus people pay for
[03:51] <nalioth> estebandido: do you have webservers, ftpservers, etc running?
[03:51] <James_Ward> nalioth, Man, two times in two months, a windoze box has gotten infected and dropped my network to its knees.  I wish I could just say No windows on my network!
[03:51] <estebandido> no, none of that
[03:51] <gbic> anyone tried lids on ubntu yet?
[03:51] <lampshade> James_Ward:  how?
[03:51] <nalioth> estebandido: then you only have a ssh port open, and only you have the user/pass it wants
[03:51] <estebandido> so, why does it still refuse my connection when i try to connect to my external IP?
[03:52] <crimsun> gbic, no, but I've been considering it. If only I could find some time...
[03:52] <gbic> este if youre paranoid, edit your hosts.allow / deny
[03:52] <James_Ward> I know, I should just put the windows boxes on their own switch and leave them to fend for themselves... :-)
[03:52] <nalioth> James_Ward: install a ubuntu box inline to the network running a chain of proxys (one of which should be a clamav proxy)
[03:52] <James_Ward> lampshade, I don't know how, but it's one nasty virus.
[03:53] <nalioth> estebandido: are you inside the local network?
[03:53] <estebandido> yes
[03:53] <James_Ward> nalioth, That intercepts virii in transit?
[03:53] <nalioth> estebandido: does it allow ssh access from inside the network? (to your local ip?)
[03:53] <estebandido> ah, let me see
[03:54] <James_Ward> estebandido, ssh localhost even?
[03:54] <nalioth> James_Ward: yes, and cuts down on bandwidth, too (because you use a caching proxy server in there)
[03:54] <nalioth> James_Ward: that doesnt work too well
[03:54] <James_Ward> nalioth, I'll have to look into that!
[03:54] <nalioth> James_Ward: ssh localhost doesnt work too well, in my experience
[03:54] <James_Ward> nalioth, Not even for testing?
[03:55] <estebandido> nalioth, i can ssh across the network, but that's it
[03:55] <James_Ward> estebandido, You're 98% there!
[03:55] <estebandido> and stalled
[03:55] <nalioth> James_Ward: go to http://devel.squid-cache.org/  and you will discover all kinds of ways to keep your network running
[03:56] <James_Ward> nalioth, danke
[03:56] <nalioth> estebandido: perhaps you should make a guest account and call a friend from off network to try to log into it
[03:56] <estebandido> hmmm... maybe, or just try from work tomorrow
[03:56] <nalioth> James_Ward: but caching proxys are just one step to network security (aside from dumping all the windows boxen)
[03:56] <abbot45> im having a problem with the gimp.  i am grabbing a color from one image with the eye dropper, then painting it on the new image, but its comming out a slightly different color.  when i grab the color from the new image the html notation is different even.
[03:57] <estebandido> but it's strange it doesn't work here
[03:57] <nalioth> estebandido: i have my machine DMZ'd and i can get to it from all over houston
[03:57] <linoleum> hey, peolpe, under ubuntu, do you have the transparence under gnome?
[03:57] <mig`> this is getting so tedious
[03:57] <nalioth> estebandido: i've never tried to connect to the external IP from inside the network
[03:57] <freddy> James_Ward, you still around?
[03:57] <estebandido> there's no reason it shouldn't work...
[03:57] <James_Ward> freddy, Si.
[03:58] <nalioth> estebandido: no, but things can be funny sometimes
[03:58] <freddy> es que estoy apunto de instalar la tarjeta
[03:58] <aaron> can someone help me with GnuPG?
[03:58] <estebandido> what if i ssh out to my web host and then ssh back?
[03:58] <gbic> aaron?
[03:58] <crimsun> aaron, shoot.
[03:58] <James_Ward> estebandido, Good test.
[03:59] <freddy> no sabia que podias hablar espanol :D
[03:59] <estebandido> y yo, tambien
[03:59] <aaron> I understand that SHA1 has been broken, and would like to sign my email with SHA512.  How can I do this?
[03:59] <freddy> how good :D
[03:59] <gbic> just use openssl to gen a cert then
[03:59] <nalioth> aaron: whats up
[04:00] <jasoncohen> is HashKnownHosts yes the default option for /etc/ssh/ssh_config in ubuntu? JDigital_ has that option but i don't from a fresh install and he says he didn't edit it
[04:00] <nalioth> freddy: estebandido can y'all do that in #ubuntu-es?
[04:00] <estebandido> sorry
[04:00] <freddy> sorry
[04:00] <estebandido> anyway, my connections are still refused
[04:00] <nalioth> estebandido: you DMZd the right IP on the network?
[04:01] <James_Ward> jasoncohen, Not in mine.
[04:01] <aaron> I have tried the 'setpref' command when I edit my key, but all my text is still signed with SHA1, even after setting it to SHA512
[04:01] <estebandido> yeah, checked it
[04:01] <nalioth> aaron: you can generate a new one, it asks you how you want it
[04:01] <jasoncohen> James_Ward, i don't understand how he has it
[04:01] <nalioth> aaron: or you can 'gpg --help'
[04:01] <estebandido> is there an allow file?
[04:01] <James_Ward> jasoncohen, Webmin?  ;-)
[04:02] <jasoncohen> James_Ward, perhaps
[04:02] <nalioth> estebandido: hosts.allow i believe was mentioned earlier
[04:02] <aaron> nalioth: I would rather not generate a new key, as many friends and family have my public key
[04:02] <nalioth> goldfish: ya comin back or has the apple got your tongue?
[04:02] <jasoncohen> James_Ward, he says he didn't use webmin
[04:02] <goldfish> nalioth: i'm back :)
[04:02] <James_Ward> TADA, woody-> ubuntu dist-upgrade complete!
[04:02] <nalioth> aaron: that is the only way i know to change the encrytption level
[04:03] <jasoncohen> James_Ward, cool
[04:03] <nalioth> goldfish: you didnt know about that page?
[04:03] <goldfish> nalioth: nope.
[04:03] <goldfish> it'a nice
[04:03] <goldfish> *it's
[04:03] <nalioth> goldfish: i like apples policy: any refurb they sell, they warranty it like a new product (and you can get APP on em, too)
[04:04] <gbic> brb, booting to nix on my laptop
[04:04] <goldfish> nalioth: yeah it's cool
[04:04] <nalioth> goldfish: unlike the intel manufucturers, where its refurb=30 days or until you get home
[04:04] <goldfish> hehe
[04:05] <nalioth> goldfish: and i have 0 problem runnin PPC
[04:05] <luminerd> how hard is a dual boot windows/ubuntu install of ubuntu?
[04:05] <mig`> hmm
[04:05] <nalioth> luminerd: not hard at all
[04:05] <goldfish> luminerd: not hard at all.
[04:05] <goldfish> lol
[04:05] <James_Ward> Uhoh, lilo's munged.
[04:05] <mig`> how would i make directory point to another?
[04:05] <goldfish> mig`: ln -s
[04:05] <estebandido> nalioth, i also run ppc
[04:05] <nalioth> mig`: symlink
[04:05] <estebandido> but i still can't get in
[04:05] <Kyral> James_Ward, sudo apt-get install grub :P
[04:05] <nalioth> estebandido: they're great, arent they?
[04:05] <estebandido> i like 'em, always have
[04:06] <estebandido> anyway, i set hosts.allow to ALL
[04:06] <nalioth> luminerd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[04:06] <luminerd> thanks
[04:06] <James_Ward> Kyral, I have to get the system back up first... ;-)
[04:06] <nalioth> estebandido: i'm not sure whats up with you, it works internally on the network, it should work from the WAN
[04:06] <nalioth> estebandido: i'm thinkin the router didnt save or something
[04:06] <estebandido> grrr
[04:06] <mig`> ok it seems to be working now
[04:07] <mig`> ok, it worked!
[04:07] <Kyral> James_Ward, Rescue CD?
[04:07] <estebandido> ok, thanks for your time
[04:07] <mig`> let me edit grub's menu.lst
[04:07] <James_Ward> Kyral, I have a grub floppy.  Any idea what arguments the kernel needs?
[04:07] <Kyral> James_Ward, nope :P
[04:07] <James_Ward> Kyral 2.2.20.
[04:08] <cafuego> luminerd: There's a trick to a dual-boot install. That trick is to make sure you install windows first, THEN linux.
[04:08] <mig`> ok, let me try to restart
[04:08] <mig`> brb
[04:08] <Kyral> I haven't had much success with screwing with the boot process
[04:08] <luminerd> yea, cafuego I have done it with PCLinuxOS before but PCLOS sux0rs
[04:08] <nalioth> luminerd: and thats all ya got to remember (aside from makin enough space for ubuntu)
[04:08] <luminerd> So, Gnome is the default WM?
[04:08] <luminerd> does Ubuntu come with anything else?
[04:08] <nalioth> luminerd: yes
[04:08] <cafuego> luminerd: Ubuntu will detect windows and add it to the boot menu. it requires no special effort.
[04:08] <nalioth> luminerd: whatever you like
[04:08] <luminerd> that's cool
[04:09] <luminerd> I'm gonna add e17 :)
[04:09] <nalioth> luminerd: kde, gnome, xfce, enlightenment, *box, and on and on
[04:09] <James_Ward> Uhoh pcmcia not present...
[04:09] <cafuego> luminerd: About 31 GB of software
[04:09] <nybble> who here runs ubuntu on their server?
[04:10] <James_Ward> nybble, I have it on one.
[04:10] <nybble> James_Ward: sweet. i'm not alone
[04:10] <luminerd> cafuego, serious?
[04:10] <luminerd> cafuego, that much comes with ubuntu?
[04:10] <gbic> ahhhh, much better
[04:10] <cafuego> !dstats hoary
[04:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on hoary... 16270 packages, 1437 maintainers, 31005 MB installed size, 9820 MB compressed size.
[04:11] <James_Ward> nybble, Mine's a backup server with 1.5T disk array attached,
[04:11] <luminerd> Oh dang
[04:11] <luminerd> I can't do ubuntu then
[04:11] <nalioth> James_Ward: you can put a proxy server box inline on your network, and it'll cut down on bandwidth and keep a lot of nastiness from your windoze boxen
[04:11] <cafuego> luminerd: Why not?
[04:11] <luminerd> because my hard drive's only 40g!
[04:11] <cafuego> luminerd: There's no rule that says you _have_ to install everything.
[04:11] <luminerd> plus, someone told me there was only 1 install cd
[04:11] <nybble> james_ward: cool... *drool*
[04:11] <luminerd> cafuego, oh, I see
[04:11] <nalioth> luminerd: thats for EVERYTHING
[04:11] <luminerd> oh...
[04:11] <luminerd> Ok so how many cds are there for everything?
[04:11] <James_Ward> nalioth, My PCMCIA is busted...
[04:12] <nybble> james_ward: i'm going to turn a box here into a NAS box
[04:12] <nalioth> luminerd: none
[04:12] <nalioth> luminerd: one isntall cd, and apt-get the rest
[04:12] <luminerd> someone clue me in...
[04:12] <nalioth> James_Ward: both of em?
[04:12] <cafuego> luminerd: You cannot install 31GB of stuff, some things conflicts with other things. normally a desktop install would be around 2GB.
[04:12] <luminerd> what if you don't have internet
[04:12] <nybble> james_ward *hopefully using unbuntu
[04:12] <luminerd> on the ubuntu comp I don't have net
[04:12] <cafuego> luminerd: If you don't have internet you wouldn't be here asking questions ;-)
[04:12] <nalioth> luminerd: the install disk will give you a pretty usable desktop
[04:12] <James_Ward> nalioth, Says PCMCIA not present...
[04:12] <luminerd> ...*pretty* usable?
[04:12] <luminerd> lol
[04:13] <nalioth> James_Ward: for both of your cards?
[04:13] <luminerd> oh well I'll just connect it to the net just so I can apt-get
[04:13] <nybble> luminerd: good enough to start
[04:13] <luminerd> where can I get info on all the apt-gettables
[04:13] <nalioth> luminerd: packages.ubuntu.com
[04:13] <cafuego> luminerd: All the basics are there for a normal desktop machine with office. Gimp, email, browser, C/C++ development environment etc.
[04:13] <luminerd> ok thanks
[04:13] <James_Ward> nalioth, You don't understand, it doesn't even see PCMCIA on the system...
[04:13] <virgule> uh oh.. I just compiled and installed xchat 2.4.4 but 'about' still say 2.4.1 ???
[04:13] <luminerd> yay :) GIMP!!
[04:13] <luminerd> does Audacity come?
[04:13] <nalioth> James_Ward: ok. i'm not sure where to go from here, then
[04:14] <virgule> what it the trick here?
[04:14] <cafuego> virgule: Did you run 'make install 'on a tarball? You're a bad person.
[04:14] <James_Ward> nalioth, Yeah, I think I'm DOA.
[04:14] <virgule> checkinstall
[04:14] <cafuego> !info audacity
[04:14] <ubotu> audacity: (A fast, cross-platform audio editor), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1610 kB, Installed size: 4680 kB
[04:14] <virgule> then dpkg -i xchat...
[04:14] <nalioth> James_Ward: thats funny tho,
[04:14] <crimsun> luminerd, come again? audacity does work, but you need to disable esd first.
[04:14] <luminerd> esd?
[04:14] <luminerd> what's esd?
[04:15] <virgule> Enlightenment Sound Daemon
[04:15] <virgule> ?
[04:15] <James_Ward> nalioth, Maybe the way PCMCIA is addressed changed?
[04:15] <luminerd> o.O
[04:15] <crimsun> luminerd, esd is the sound daemon that Ubuntu uses by default. And cafuego's right on target - you'll need to enable the universe repository to install audacity.
[04:15] <luminerd> Oh that
[04:15] <luminerd> heh
[04:15] <nalioth> James_Ward: i have no clue, i'd restart it with the other card in
[04:15] <cafuego> luminerd: esd is a sound server, which allows multiple applications to output sound simultaneously.
[04:15] <estebandido> next question... why does firefox maxout the processor so often and so long?
[04:15] <luminerd> cafuego, are you frickin serious?!
[04:15] <nalioth> estebandido: cuz it sux
[04:15] <luminerd> I've been looking for something that does that for ages
[04:15] <cafuego> Please stop accusing me of knowing what I'm talking about.
[04:15] <estebandido> ah, i see
[04:16] <luminerd> lol
[04:16] <nalioth> estebandido: try galeon, epiphany, kazehakase
[04:16] <estebandido> any solutions?
[04:16] <virgule> ;)
[04:16] <estebandido> cool, i will
[04:16] <James_Ward> nalioth, Do I still need an initrd if I am booting from disk?
[04:16] <estebandido> thanks
[04:16] <Kyral> luminerd, ESD == the suxxor
[04:16] <cafuego> luminerd: Yes. Gnome uses esound, KDE ises ARTS. Both are sound server systems. (they work locally and networked)
[04:16] <nalioth> James_Ward: sorry, i drive a taxicab, i dont know what initrd is
[04:16] <Kyral> lol
[04:16] <nybble> anyone have an ideal setup idea for making a NAS box?
[04:16] <James_Ward> nalioth, :-)
[04:16] <freddy> LOL
[04:16] <luminerd> Kyral, why?
[04:16] <cafuego> !initrd is satan
[04:16] <ubotu> cafuego: okay
[04:17] <virgule> Kyral: how did you upgrade xchat?
[04:17] <luminerd> Dude, I've always used Alsa, and it's the worst
[04:17] <Kyral> umm
[04:17] <Kyral> sudo apt-get update?
[04:17] <luminerd> I don't like Alsa because I can only hear sound from one program
[04:17] <virgule> i just did the regular ./configure; make; checkinstall... where is the trick? :)
[04:17] <Kyral> I can hear sound from multiprogs with ALSA
[04:17] <James_Ward> naliothGuess not, there's no initrd file.
[04:17] <cafuego> luminerd: esd runs on top of alsa
[04:17] <nalioth> nybble: i'm ignorant, but whats NAS?
[04:17] <cafuego> !nas
[04:17] <ubotu> cafuego: I give up, what is it?
[04:17] <luminerd> cafuego, I see, well that sounds cool
[04:17] <Kyral> checkinstall makes a deb I think
[04:17] <nybble> nalioth: network attached storage
[04:17] <Kyral> !info xchat
[04:18] <cafuego> ubotu: You are useless.
[04:18] <luminerd> eh, I have to go
[04:18] <ubotu> xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.1-0.1ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 248 kB, Installed size: 672 kB
[04:18] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, cafuego
[04:18] <luminerd> ttyl
[04:18] <virgule> !info xchat
[04:18] <nalioth> nybble: make.com had a cool little page up
[04:18] <luminerd> thanks for the help btw!
[04:18] <nybble> yay
[04:18] <nybble> thx
[04:18] <crimsun> luminerd, alsa can be configured (via dmix) to output multiple sounds simultaneously.
[04:18] <Kyral> .....where the hell DID I get 2.4.3?
[04:18] <nalioth> nybble: makemagazine.com whatever it is
[04:18] <crimsun> luminerd, in fact, it's enabled by default in Breezy.
[04:18] <Kyral> oyah, backports :D
[04:18] <cafuego> !info xchat breezy
[04:18] <virgule> hhaaa
[04:18] <ubotu> xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.3-0.1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 237 kB, Installed size: 652 kB
[04:18] <nybble> http://www.makezine.com/
[04:19] <Kyral> and its already in Hoary Backports :D
[04:19] <nalioth> nybble: i got a chuckle out of their project
[04:19] <virgule> mm
[04:19] <cafuego> sane people use irssi, not xchat backports
[04:19] <Kyral> X-Chat > All
[04:19] <Kyral> Backports == Stable :D
[04:20] <cafuego> Kyral: if you want stability you shouldn't be using X to begin with.
[04:20] <Kyral> !info xchat backports
[04:20] <gbic> Someone was saying they were able to get their x800 to work in hoary... I am just curious to know how they managed...I have an x600 mobile and have yet to manage to get hardware rendering to work
[04:20] <Kyral> cafuego, I'm a sucker for eyecandy :D
[04:20] <James_Ward> Any PCMCIA experts here?
[04:20] <cafuego> Kyral: buy a mac
[04:21] <Kyral> cafuego, not enough money :D
[04:21] <cafuego> pff
[04:21] <nalioth> Kyral: bullfeathers, they are $499
[04:21] <nybble> nalioth: too bad they want a subscription
[04:21] <cafuego> mac minis are cheep
[04:21] <nalioth> Kyral: cheap
[04:21] <nybble> mmm... mac minis
[04:21] <nalioth> nybble: you are at the wrong site
[04:21] <nalioth> nybble: let me see
[04:21] <nybble> nalioth: ah
[04:21] <Kyral> nalioth, I need money for school next semester and I couldn't find work for this year
[04:22] <aru> is there a gui app for formatting hdds in gnome?
[04:22] <HrdwrBoB> not as such
[04:22] <nybble> gparted?
[04:22] <HrdwrBoB> you can get gparted
[04:22] <Kyral> QtParted?
[04:23] <cafuego> ubotu: go away
[04:23] <aru> k, thanks
[04:23] <Tom89> is Ubuntu like linux?
[04:24] <unome> root shouldnt be in sudoers or am I wrong?
[04:24] <Kyral> ...*deadpan*
[04:24] <nybble> its not just "like" linux... it most possibly "is" linux!
[04:24] <nybble> lol
[04:24] <Kyral> I think I have a new quitline
[04:24] <Tom89> ??
[04:24] <unome> Ubuntu is the only usable linux I know Tom89
[04:24] <nybble> yes, what unome said
[04:24] <Xira> Hey guys, my sound used to work, but now I just get: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:868:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[04:24] <Tom89> confused
[04:24] <Xira> Error while initializing the sound driver:
[04:24] <Xira> device: default can't be opened for playback (No such file or directory)
[04:24] <Xira> could anyone help?
[04:25] <nybble> Tom89, Ubuntu is a _distribution_ of linux
[04:25] <Tom89> what Xira wrote looks complicated...
[04:25] <nalioth> nybble: i'm sorry, but i can't find the link
[04:25] <nybble> tom89: their are many different _distributions_ of linux
[04:25] <nybble> nalioth: thats oki
[04:25] <nybble> thx anyway
[04:25] <Xira> Anyone?
[04:25] <nalioth> nybble: it was some fellas project using slightly older scsi drives to make a 1.5tb raid array for >$250
[04:25] <Kyral> Holy cow! He is running OpenBSD
[04:26] <Tom89> sorry, poor attempt at trolling
[04:26] <nybble> tom89: but Ubuntu is a very user friendly distribution. With one of the easiest, and most powerful installers i have seen
[04:26] <Tom89> I'm just really bored
[04:26] <nalioth> Xira: those pix are kewl
[04:26] <goldfish> Tom89: omfg RETARD !!!oneoneoneoneoneoneone
[04:26] <Kyral> The CTCP Version shows the TRUTH!! :P
[04:26] <nalioth> Xira: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[04:26] <goldfish> ctcp version me :)
[04:26] <nybble> Kyral: who is?
[04:26] <Kyral> Tom89
[04:26] <nybble> ah
[04:26] <nybble> lol!
[04:27] <Kyral> >Tom89< CTCP VERSION
[04:27] <Kyral> -Tom89- VERSION irssi v0.8.9 - running on OpenBSD sparc64
[04:27] <nybble> LOL!
[04:27] <nybble> on a sparc..
[04:27] <goldfish> try me !!!
[04:27] <nybble> go him
[04:27] <Tom89> I'm horribly bored...
[04:27] <Xira> nalioth: thx..
[04:27] <unome> guys, root shouldnt be in sudoers list or am I wrong?
[04:27] <Xira> which pics?
[04:27] <nalioth> unome: nope
[04:27] <Kyral> goldfish, lol how do you do that?
[04:27] <unome> nalioth thanks
[04:27] <nalioth> unome: not sposed to be there
[04:27] <nybble> nice version goldfish
[04:27] <unome> gotcha :)
[04:27] <nalioth> Kyral: what did it say?
[04:28] <goldfish> Kyral: irssi variable.
[04:28] <nybble> -goldfish- VERSION You have just been h4x0r3d
[04:28] <goldfish> nybble: :)
[04:28] <nybble> :P
[04:28] <Kyral> Any idea on how to do that for XChat?
[04:28] <nalioth> Kyral: do you see the power of irssi?
[04:28] <nybble> a BEFW11S4 to be exact
[04:28] <Tom89> chix dig irssi
[04:29] <Tom89> no no no no!
[04:29] <goldfish> Kyral: yeah, sudo apt-get irssi-text && sudo apt-get remove xchat --purge
[04:29] <goldfish> + install in there somewhere
[04:29] <nybble> lol
[04:29] <gbic> Tom89: Ultra?
[04:29] <Tom89> gbic: Ultra 10
[04:29] <Kyral> MWAHAHAHAHHAHAHA! FEAR THE WINDOWS ME!!
[04:29] <gbic> cool
[04:29] <Kyral> Now!!!
[04:29] <Tom89> nice little box
[04:29] <gbic> I have one of those as my gteway
[04:29] <gbic> hehe
[04:29] <gbic> indeed
[04:29] <Xira> nalioth: none of those seem to work, it seems my sound device has disapered
[04:29] <James_Ward> Looks like dist-upgrade upgraded pcmcia but not the kernel.
[04:29] <Xira> i get no sound globally
[04:29] <gbic> T1 as my AppGate server
[04:29] <Kyral> Cower in FEAR TROLL!
[04:29] <nybble> the word "box" is bringing dark thoughts to my mind
[04:30] <gbic> Now to convince my wife I need a Fire
[04:30] <James_Ward> I think I'll give up for today.
[04:30] <gbic> LOL!!
[04:30] <Tom89> Sun makes some nice hardware
[04:30] <James_Ward> Thanks all!
[04:30] <HrdwrBoB> how do I make nautilus work the way it's supposed to again?
[04:30] <nalioth> Xira: i'll keep a look out for it  ;)
[04:30] <gbic> But love, I require 8 CPU's to load balance all my apps.
[04:30] <gbic> :)
[04:30] <HrdwrBoB> ie: don't close the window I came from
[04:30] <Xira> sigh
[04:30] <Xira> it was working fine
[04:30] <Xira> :/
[04:30] <Kyral> I am really bored
[04:30] <Kyral> OW!!
[04:30] <nybble> me too
[04:30] <gbic> Kyral
[04:31] <gbic> go read some man pages then
[04:31] <Kyral> I know I know
[04:31] <nybble> notably 'man woman'
[04:31] <Kyral> Actually I have this RP thingy I have to do but am putting it off
[04:31] <Kyral> I want that shirt....
[04:31] <nybble> atleast 'man man' is something
[04:31] <gbic> man "the man"
[04:31] <Kyral> Actually
[04:32] <nybble> lol
[04:32] <Kyral> I could prolly put something in my bash_alias...
[04:32] <nybble> i love the default page for apache in ubuntu
[04:32] <nybble> 'Move along, nothing to see here... :-)'
[04:33] <luminerd> how much impact would oeimport.dll and usbport.sys have on a windows install?
[04:33] <gbic> I think youre lost luminerd
[04:33] <luminerd> huh??
[04:33] <nybble> yes, you are
[04:33] <gbic> Oh, my fault, this IS #windows
[04:33] <gbic> sorry
[04:34] <nybble> yes, join #windows
[04:34] <nybble> lol
[04:34] <luminerd> ...I'm in the middle of setting up a dual boot man
[04:34] <nybble> dual boot man pages?
[04:34] <nybble> sweet
[04:34] <nybble> lol
[04:34] <unome> I *am* wrong root should be in the sudoers list hehe
[04:34] <unome> root is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[04:34] <nybble> lol
[04:35] <gbic> I'm almost sure usbport.sys is a needed file
[04:35] <Tom89> hehehehe
[04:35] <gbic> not sure about oem*
[04:35] <nybble> oe import.dll
[04:35] <gbic> ahh yes
[04:35] <gbic> brainfart
[04:35] <gbic> thanks
[04:35] <nybble> some sort of importing
[04:35] <nybble> file
[04:35] <nybble> or such
[04:35] <gbic> outlook express import
[04:35] <gbic> hehe
[04:35] <gbic> is my guess
[04:35] <nybble> or its exporting your info to MS
[04:35] <nybble> ya,
[04:35] <nybble> i second that, gbic
[04:36] <freddy_> HOLY MOMA OF GOD IT IS WORKING MY WIFI IS WORKING OMGOMGOMG!!!!
[04:36] <gbic> perhaps it's the file that generates bsod
[04:36] <nybble> lol
[04:36] <nalioth> freddy_: ok now, everythings cool...
[04:36] <gbic> yay freddy_
[04:36] <freddy_> i am almost getting an orgasm
[04:36] <gbic> now secure it for god sake
[04:36] <gbic> hehe
[04:36] <nybble> lol
[04:36] <Kyral> I think we should jump into #windows going "MSN Spaces Ripped off the Ubuntu Logo!!"
[04:37] <nybble> or do what i do, run an unsecure one, and a secured one
[04:37] <gbic> yea
[04:37] <freddy_> what do you mean secure it?
[04:37] <gbic> run a nice honeypot
[04:37] <gbic> hehe
[04:37] <gbic> use encryption
[04:37] <freddy_> i dont wanna go doing the WEP crap..maybe i fuk it up =/
[04:37] <lilian> theres something weird...i typr "su" and then my password...but it says its wrong..and its not wrong
[04:37] <freddy_> lilian, sudo -s
[04:38] <Xira> Hi guys, I have a problem. My sources.list file is a few months old, as this computer hasn't been used in awhiel. It seems all the nerim mirrors are nolonger. What are I to replace these mirrors with?
[04:38] <gbic> xira
[04:38] <lilian> ohh thanks freddy_   im a newbie
[04:38] <gbic> ubuntuguide.org
[04:38] <Kyral> and yes, I have found uses for the Windows keys on my keyboard!
[04:38] <freddy_> lilian, np
[04:38] <Xira> What am I supposed to look up on there?
[04:38] <Xira> That's like giving me al ink to google.com
[04:38] <freddy_> omfg omfgomfgomsfdgosaemrg43qeoghn5o53 im on the BATHROOM WITH LINUX!!!!!!!!
[04:38] <gbic> use your imagination
[04:38] <Xira> riight.
[04:38] <Kyral> I mapped the left one to Workspace 1 and the right one to Workspace 2
[04:38] <gbic> xira
[04:39] <gbic> stop and breathe for a second
[04:39] <gbic> and relook at your QUESTION
[04:39] <Kyral> now, if only I could get the Menu key to open the GNOME Menus
[04:39] <stisev> Hi all
[04:39] <stisev> Hi tiglionabbit:
[04:39] <stisev> :)
[04:39] <jasmuz> freddy_: calm down!
[04:39] <freddy_> omg....this is amazing
[04:39] <freddy_> i swear to god im on the bathroom with linux
[04:39] <freddy_> after all this years trying to
[04:39] <gbic> freddy_
[04:39] <stisev> freddy: eh?
[04:39] <freddy_> god damn distro
[04:39] <freddy_> omg
[04:39] <nalioths_dog> lilian: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:39] <gbic> you are the first one
[04:39] <freddy_> i am getting an orgarsm
[04:40] <gbic> good thing youre in the can huh
[04:40] <goldfish> my wireless connection dies when i go into my bathroom :/
[04:40] <Tom89> that's too weird....
[04:40] <nalioth> freddy_: well you're in the right place for it
[04:40] <freddy_> nalioth, LOL
[04:40] <freddy_> i love you guys
[04:40] <Xira> gbic: no mention of it there
[04:40] <jasmuz> freddy_: you can take a load off and chat at the same time!
[04:40] <gbic> sure
[04:40] <freddy_> and what was the thing that helped me to get it working?
[04:40] <Kyral> I wanna have sex and use Linux at the same time....
[04:40] <freddy_> wiki.ubuntu
[04:40] <freddy_> YAYAYA!!
[04:41] <gbic> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[04:41] <freddy_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[04:41] <jasmuz> goldfish: make yourself an Wifi antenna
[04:41] <freddy_> that ONE!
[04:41] <chibifs> Does anyone know of a gnome-kde icon conversion script? It's taking too long to symlink these. ._.
[04:41] <Kyral> oh wait...I already do
[04:41] <freddy_> goldfish, it is so awesome...linux and the bathroom
[04:41] <freddy_> so cool
[04:41] <arentie> my computer doesn't hibernate after I've installed my wifi...can someone help?
[04:41] <gbic> I made myself a 14db gain antenna for my orinoco
[04:41] <gbic> hehe
[04:41] <goldfish> jasmuz: haha
[04:41] <nalioths_dog> gbic: Please do not advise ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead.  Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[04:42] <gbic> my bad
[04:42] <freddy_> ubuntuguide is bad?
[04:42] <nalioth> freddy_: read the URL
[04:42] <jasmuz> goldfish: im going to make one...just to "sniff" packets that might be floating around
[04:42] <nalioth> jasmuz: in the bathroom?
[04:42] <freddy_> this is fucking hilarious....now im running out of batterie.....*sigh*
[04:43] <goldfish> jasmuz: cool
[04:43] <Kyral> PLUG IT IN!!
[04:43] <Kyral> ......its a really odd experiance when you have an A/C vent right behind the tiolet......
[04:43] <freddy_> i love ubuntu...now i have to play with themes to make it look good
[04:43] <adwait> hello all
[04:43] <vipernicus> what are the steps in setting up a custom kernel for ubuntu, i've tried rolling my own 2.6.12, but it will not boot
[04:44] <jasmuz> nalioth: nope...around my area...not into the bathroom
[04:44] <vipernicus> are there any special options for mkinitrd?
[04:44] <Kyral> Freddy sudo apt-get install gnome-themes-extra
[04:44] <nalioth> jasmuz: heh
[04:44] <Kyral> or something like that
[04:44] <Davey> freddy: I find the Clearsky + Deepblue Color == awesome ::D
[04:44] <freddy_> jasmuz, woah...around your "area"?
[04:45] <freddy_> do you guys know if there is anyways to make the fonts look better?
[04:45] <luminerd> can I boot off of a cd-rw?
[04:45] <freddy_> the render seems a little odd
[04:45] <Xira> 99% [Connecting to ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net (66.90.101.204)
[04:45] <Xira> its stuck
[04:45] <Xira> :/
[04:45] <goldfish> freddy_: some guides on ubuntuforums.org
[04:45] <freddy_> oh..then im right...im not crazy right? they do look a bit odd?
[04:46] <adwait> luminerd: yes u can, provided it is a bootable cd
[04:46] <Xira> help? >.>
[04:46] <nalioth> luminerd: yes
[04:46] <luminerd> sweet thanks
[04:46] <nalioth> goldfish: do i have to put the dog on ya?
[04:46] <nalioth> Xira: dont use BP
[04:46] <Xira> what do i use then
[04:46] <stisev> So what are some must-have apps for Linux (ubuntu)
[04:46] <stisev> cleaer
[04:46] <jasmuz> local wardriving
[04:46] <stisev> heh
[04:47] <freddy_> gnome-themes-extra....no such package
[04:47] <stisev> I like KDE
[04:47] <stisev> :p
[04:47] <Kyral> freddy_, apt-cache search themes
[04:47] <nalioth> Xira: what are you after?
[04:47] <goldfish> nalioth: am i not allowed recommend ubuntuforums ? :)
[04:47] <Kyral> its in there, I know I didn't have the right package
[04:47] <Xira> apt-get update
[04:47] <Xira> :/
[04:47] <freddy_> freddy has quit?
[04:48] <freddy_> what the..
[04:48] <goldfish> he has.
[04:48] <Kyral> stisev, azureus, gdesklets (NO DATA PACKAGE!!)
[04:48] <freddy_> Kyral, woah...that brought a lot of stuff hehe
[04:48] <Xira> http://rafb.net/paste/results/MR1ouY40.html
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[04:48] <Xira>           has joined #ubuntu
[04:48] <Xira> 19:48 -!- rcliii [~rcliii@cpe-65-26-158
[04:48] <Xira>           [~chatzilla@CPEc2cdc91b1d31-CM000f212f9e50.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] 
[04:48] <Xira>           has joined #ubuntu
[04:48] <nalioth> goldfish: not with my glasses off
[04:48] <goldfish> nalioth: hehe.
[04:48] <nalioth> goldfish: sorry
[04:48] <Xira> argh
[04:48] <Xira> sorry
[04:49] <mobiGeek> morning folks!
[04:49] <Xira> http://rafb.net/paste/results/MR1ouY40.html
[04:49] <nalioth> Xira: what program are you after?
[04:49] <adwait> ,orning ,obgeek
[04:49] <freddy_> morning!
[04:49] <nalioth> Xira: just use the official repos
[04:49] <Xira> grrr
[04:49] <Xira> nalioth:
[04:49] <goldfish> nalioth: np.
[04:49] <gbic> he just wants to update
[04:49] <Xira> im just trying ti fscking apt-get update
[04:49] <Xira> and im getting nothing but problems
[04:49] <gbic> not install one particular pkg
[04:49] <mobiGeek> I am new to debian/ubuntu distros.  I need to rebuild php4 (I have a 3rd party module), so i pulled down the source with   "apt-get source php4".   Where does the source go?  is there a way to get a listing for this pkg?
[04:49] <nalioth> Xira: use just official repos
[04:49] <Xira> i just followed ubuntuguides to replaces my sources.list
[04:49] <Xira> and im getting that
[04:50] <Xira> =/
[04:50] <nalioth> Xira: OH!
[04:50] <nalioth> Xira: ubuntuguide is satan
[04:50] <goldfish> Xira: they are not official repos.
[04:50] <Xira> sigh
[04:50] <Xira> wtf
[04:50] <goldfish> yeah
[04:50] <nalioths_dog> Xira: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[04:50] <Kyral> Backports IS STABLE!!
[04:50] <goldfish> ubuntuguide sucks and causes problems.
[04:50] <Xira> all of the non-offical repos dont have a lot of software
[04:50] <Xira> so wtf
[04:50] <Xira> i boot up my 2 month hoary instalation
[04:50] <Xira> no worky
[04:50] <Xira> i replace
[04:50] <Xira> no worky
[04:50] <Xira> so wtf am i to do
[04:51] <nalioth> Xira: WHAT are you after?
[04:51] <Xira> APT-GET UPDATE
[04:51] <Kyral> ...have you been using sudo apt-get update?
[04:51] <Xira> ....
[04:51] <goldfish> apt-get update --heterosexual
[04:51] <Xira> god
[04:51] <Xira> asshole
[04:51] <gbic> xira
[04:51] <nybble> lol
[04:51] <gbic> just retry apt
[04:51] <Kyral> what? Valid question
[04:51] <Xira> not you
[04:51] <Kyral> oh
[04:52] <gbic> heh
[04:52] <gbic> kids
[04:52] <goldfish> :/
[04:52] <gbic> with short attention spans
[04:52] <XIra> ok
[04:52] <XIra> http://rafb.net/paste/results/MR1ouY40.html
[04:52] <freddy_> and i need some icons...jeez...i dont like this ones so much
[04:52] <stisev> Does anyone know if enemy territory will run on Ubuntu?
[04:52] <mobiGeek> anyone?
[04:52] <nalioth> XIra: how long have you been using the sources from ubuntuguide?
[04:52] <Kyral> right
[04:52] <XIra> I *just* replaced it. The ones I had before were broken as well
[04:52] <Sophistication> stisev, yes
[04:52] <Kyral> now sudo apt-get update
[04:52] <gpfreitas> Just to be sure: any known problem between Ubuntu and Windows XP SP2? (This is my dad's machine...)
[04:52] <Kyral> then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:53] <goldfish> mobiGeek: can u not just apt-get install php4 ?
[04:53] <stisev> Sophistication: will this one work
[04:53] <stisev> http://www.frag9.net/enemy.territory/
[04:53] <freddy_> something like THIS is nice http://www.linuxpeach.com/menus_icons.png
[04:53] <mobiGeek> goldfish: no, 3rd paryt app needs to be compiled against the php4 source.
[04:53] <goldfish> oh
[04:53] <nalioth> XIra: prolonged use of nonofficial repos will lead to a box that cant go forwards or backwards
[04:53] <XIra> ok
[04:53] <XIra> look
[04:53] <XIra> http://rafb.net/paste/reasults/DGmtqm47.html
[04:53] <Sophistication> stisev, http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/games/wolfensteinet/et-linux-2.60.x86.run.html
[04:53] <XIra> i just followed ubuntuguides
[04:53] <XIra> and i update
[04:53] <XIra> and thats what happened
[04:53] <XIra> before you ask
[04:53] <XIra> read the link
[04:53] <Kyral> not found
[04:53] <goldfish> mobiGeek: /usr/src/ maybe...
[04:53] <mobiGeek> how do I find out what files are included with an apt-get'ed package?
[04:53] <XIra> rafb is broken
[04:54] <mobiGeek> goldfish: no, no code in /usr/src other than the kernel
[04:54] <gpfreitas> stisev: I've run it on a Debian Woody box, so you should be able to run it on ubuntu.
[04:54] <bpuccio> freddy_: hmm, that is nice looking
[04:54] <goldfish> mobiGeek: ah right, sorry, just a guess :/
[04:54] <goldfish> nalioth: where does source go after a apt-get source moo
[04:54] <goldfish> ?
[04:54] <majic> I just installed Ubuntu 5.04, all was well. I did the upgrade which said there was 22 packages to install. They installed fine, now Gnome refuses to start. I'm gonna try searching for this on the forums.
[04:54] <XIra> ok
[04:54] <XIra> look
[04:54] <XIra> http://pastebin.com/307092
[04:54] <lilian> how can i know the directory where my firefox is, so i can install the java plugin in the right directory
[04:54] <freddy_> bpuccio, hells yeah...i want something like that lol
[04:54] <nalioth> goldfish: /var/apt/cache/somewhere in here
[04:55] <goldfish> lilian: 'locate firefox'
[04:55] <Sophistication> stisev, Also you might wanna grab Enemey Territory Fortress as well -- http://www.etfgame.com/files/mirrors/etf_15_linux.shtml
[04:55] <bpuccio> freddy_: yeah, the icon theme is nice, I'd like that
[04:55] <stisev> gpfreitas: How do I know if it's compatible with Ubuntu (Debian)
[04:55] <goldfish> mobiGeek: /var/apt/cache/somewhere in here
[04:55] <goldfish> nalioth: thanks.
[04:55] <freddy_> but woah...i think i found my theme
[04:55] <stisev> Sophistication: Is there a way to tell if the package I'm downloading is compatible with my system
[04:55] <XIra> nalioth, http://pastebin.com/307092
[04:55] <stisev> Sophistication: just by looking at the file/
[04:55] <Sophistication> stisev, I play ET & etf in ubuntu's latest.
[04:55] <XIra> Kyral, http://pastebin.com/307092
[04:55] <gbic> xian, duplicate entries ....
[04:55] <Kyral> is ET Single player?
[04:55] <Sophistication> stisev, yes it will be
[04:55] <XIra> xian?
[04:55] <do_> ...
[04:55] <Sophistication> Kyral, MMOP
[04:56] <gbic> w/e your impatient nick is
[04:56] <freddy_> SphereCrystal
[04:56] <stisev> Sophistication: aren't there different flavors of ET? one for redhat,etc.
[04:56] <gpfreitas> stisev: I really never checked if it was compatible with Debian, I just installed the NVIDIA driver, installed and ran it.
[04:56] <adwait> mobigeek: or maybe /var/spool/apt/...
[04:56] <Xira> I just pasted what was there on ubuntuguides
[04:56] <Xira> but apperantly they're wrong
[04:56] <Xira> and so is everything else
[04:56] <Kyral> hmm, compared to HALO?
[04:56] <Xira> so what am i supposed to do
[04:56] <nalioth> Xira: how long have you been using that list?
[04:56] <Sophistication> Kyral, I play Multiplayer on a 64 player server
[04:56] <gbic> mine works fine
[04:56] <Xira> I said already nalioth
[04:56] <goldfish> majic: i've heard removing ~/.gnome might slove the problem....
[04:56] <Xira> several times
[04:56] <gbic> so Ill assume you mucked something up
[04:56] <Xira> i just replaced them. and they were broken before i replaced them
[04:56] <Sophistication> stisev, no 1 linux et file for all distros .
[04:56] <Kyral> Xira....it updated fine....
[04:56] <Xira> gbic, look
[04:57] <gbic> I dont need to look , I already see
[04:57] <Xira> i stopped booting to ubuntu for 3 months or so
[04:57] <Xira> i boot back
[04:57] <nalioth> Xira: debian pkgs dont play nice with ubuntu
[04:57] <Xira> and nerim is gone
[04:57] <gbic> try upgrade now
[04:57] <Xira> IM NOT USING A DEBIAN PKG
[04:57] <Xira> GOD
[04:57] <Xira> IM JUST TRYING TO APT-GET UPDATE
[04:57] <goldfish> ........
[04:57] <Xira> don't you understand!?
[04:57] <nalioth> Xira: what is people.debian.org?
[04:57] <gbic> xira
[04:57] <Kyral> XIRA IT FRICKIN WORKED!!
[04:57] <gbic> apt-get upgrade
[04:57] <gbic> let it run
[04:57] <Xira> well
[04:57] <gbic> go grab a valium
[04:57] <Kyral> god I want to SMACK this guy now
[04:57] <gbic> and some herbal tea
[04:57] <Xira> i just did gbic
[04:57] <Xira> you don't listen
[04:58] <stisev> Sophistication: acknowledged. thanks.
[04:58] <Kyral> Xira shaddup and listen
[04:58] <gbic> god youre about as usefull as tits on a bull son
[04:58] <Kyral> it WORKED
[04:58] <bpuccio> stisev: are you an Arstechnica guy?
[04:58] <Kyral> now issue sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:58] <Kyral> NO QUESTIONS!!
[04:58] <stisev> bpuccio: yep :)
[04:58] <gbic> lol
[04:58] <stisev> bpuccio: Hi Brian
[04:58] <gbic> Im off to do my lids setup
[04:59] <Kyral> I know its cliche, but you won't like me when I'm angry
[04:59] <stisev> bpuccio: You an Arsina?
[04:59] <stisev> er bpuccio : Arsian?
[04:59] <Xira> sigh.
[04:59] <bpuccio> stisev: was, no longer there, been a long time
[04:59] <Xira> why bother :/
[04:59] <Kyral> Did you do it?
[04:59] <freddy_> omfg this is the distro man
[04:59] <freddy_> the distro
[04:59] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[04:59] <Xira> yes
[04:59] <freddy_> i mean
[04:59] <freddy_> the distro
[04:59] <Amaranth> another week away from home
[04:59] <Kyral> and what happened?
[04:59] <Amaranth> i should go buy a modem
[04:59] <Xira> it upgraded
[04:59] <Xira> i did this about an hour ago
[04:59] <Kyral> ty :D
[04:59] <adwait> Amarnath: u indian
[04:59] <Kyral> okay
[04:59] <adwait> ?
[05:00] <Kyral> Now what thing do you want to install?
[05:00] <Amaranth> adwait: No, but I've been told my name is.
[05:00] <mobiGeek> OMG: "apt-get source php4"  downloads and extracts the tarball to the current directory ???
[05:00] <adwait> hmm......yeah
[05:00] <Amaranth> mobiGeek: Yes.
[05:00] <Xira> .. I just want to update my apt-get lists/mirrors by using apt-get update..............
[05:00] <Xira> update != upgrade
[05:00] <Davey> who the heck is still using PHP4? :)
[05:00] <Kyral> ........
[05:00] <Amaranth> Davey: Ubuntu users
[05:00] <Davey> Amaranth: lame ;)
[05:00] <Kyral> That WORKED!!!
[05:00] <seth_k> but true :P
[05:00] <Amaranth> Xira: What is the error, what is in your sources.list?
[05:00] <Xira> no
[05:00] <Davey> Amaranth: I got PHP5 working just fine :)
[05:00] <Xira> upgrade is not update
[05:01] <Davey> Amaranth: heck, I'm using CVS HEAD as of 5 minutes ago :)
[05:01] <Amaranth> adwait: Know what it means?
[05:01] <Xira> Amaranth, I am using the sources.list from ubuntu guide, the error is here:
[05:01] <Kyral> Amaranth, he is getting Duplicate Entry errors on Updating
[05:01] <Xira> http://pastebin.com/307092
[05:01] <mobiGeek> Davey: Ubuntu CVS head or PHP ?
[05:01] <nalioth> Amaranth: here http://pastebin.com/307092
[05:01] <Kyral> I'm trying to tell him that it still updated....
[05:01] <Davey> mobiGeek: PHP
[05:01] <mobiGeek> oh brother...
[05:01] <mobiGeek> bleeding edge is not what I need right now.
[05:01] <Davey> mobiGeek: I know what I'm doing ;)
[05:02] <mobiGeek> So do I, but my customers won't.
[05:02] <adwait> Amarnath: It actually is a place in india............and literally means "Immortal Master" or something like that...(Amar = Immortal, Nath =Master (I think))
[05:02] <Davey> mobiGeek: hehe
[05:02] <freddy_> now....i have no sound on firefox
[05:02] <Davey> mobiGeek: luckily my boss trusts me :)
[05:02] <freddy_> this is weird
[05:02] <Xira> im running an apt-get upgrade right now
[05:02] <Amaranth> Xira: Post your sources.list, I'll post a correct version.
[05:02] <Xira> Amaranth, yessir
[05:02] <nalioth> freddy_: use galeon, epiphany or kazehakaze (or pick from the dozens of web browsers available)
[05:02] <nalioth> freddy_: firefox kinda sux
[05:03] <Kyral> links2!!
[05:03] <freddy_> Amaranth, what the heck? i have a theme on gnome with your name lol
[05:03] <nalioth> Xira: Amaranth is gonna tell you what we've been telling you
[05:03] <freddy_> nalioth, really? :(
[05:03] <Amaranth> freddy_: Heh, I hate that theme.
[05:03] <freddy_> is it yours?
[05:03] <freddy_> you amde it?
[05:03] <Amaranth> nope
[05:03] <mobiGeek> firefox is just fine.  what exactly sux about it?
[05:03] <goldfish> freddy_: opera is nice.
[05:03] <goldfish> mobiGeek: slow.
[05:03] <Amaranth> that guy lied
[05:03] <stisev> I LOVE opera
[05:04] <mobiGeek> slow?  you on dial-up/
[05:04] <nalioth> mobiGeek: some users find it .. .. sucking (as in memory, and CPU)
[05:04] <Amaranth> their CEO had better be swimming
[05:04] <Kyral> Amaranth, you should I have seen it, we had a guy going "is Ubuntu like Linux" and he ran irssi on OpenBSD on Sparc
[05:04] <freddy_> im just having a problem with no sound on it thats it
[05:04] <freddy_> :(
[05:04] <adwait> lol
[05:04] <Xira> Amaranth, http://synchronizedesigns.us/sources.list
[05:04] <goldfish> mobiGeek: 2 meg line.
[05:04] <Amaranth> Kyral: haha
[05:05] <Xira> heh
[05:07] <Xira> Amaranth, ?
[05:07] <adwait> !Ubuntu
[05:07] <ubotu> I guess ubuntu is http://www.ubuntolinux.org or FAQ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[05:07] <Amaranth> Xira: http://rafb.net/paste/results/OtFh2d78.html
[05:07] <nalioth> !info wget breezy
[05:07] <freddy_> now whats the gnome default browser?
[05:07] <ubotu> wget: (retrieves files from the web), section web, is standard. Version: 1.9.1-10ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 196 kB, Installed size: 1476 kB
[05:07] <Xira> Amaranth, replace mine with that?
[05:07] <IceDC571> freddy_: firefox
[05:07] <Amaranth> Xira: Yep.
[05:07] <freddy_> IceDC571, lol
[05:07] <nalioth> freddy_: gnomes default? probably galeon or epiphany
[05:07] <freddy_> i think its epiphany
[05:07] <Kyral> !info galeon
[05:07] <ubotu> galeon: (GNOME web browser for advanced users), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.3.20-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 671 kB, Installed size: 1560 kB
[05:07] <Xira> Amaranth, thank you kind sir ;.
[05:07] <Xira> :>
[05:08] <freddy_> when i used to use mandrake...it came with epiphany
[05:08] <IceDC571> well at least the default in ubuntu is firefox
[05:08] <Amaranth> freddy_: GNOME default is epiphany
[05:08] <nalioth> !info prozilla breezy
[05:08] <Kyral> isn't that what we were telling him?
[05:08] <Xira> no
[05:08] <freddy_> IceDC571, yup, and thats what matters actually thanks
[05:08] <Kyral> !info epiphany
[05:08] <Amaranth> Kyral: Sometimes examples work better than instructions.
[05:08] <ubotu> epiphany: (Clone of BoulderDash Game), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.5.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 576 kB, Installed size: 2260 kB
[05:08] <nalioth> prozilla is not in breezy?
[05:08] <freddy_> why the heck i dont get sound in firefox..thats kinda odd man
[05:08] <Kyral> WTFMate?
[05:08] <Xira> how is breezy btw?
[05:08] <Kyral> Broken
[05:08] <Kyral> in a bad way
[05:09] <nalioth> freddy_: go back to that sound URL on the wiki
[05:09] <Amaranth> X is going through the final transition
[05:09] <Amaranth> well, hopefully the final transition
[05:09] <adwait> freddy_: sound where? flash?
[05:09] <freddy_> oh...lemme see if i can find it again nalioth
[05:09] <Kyral> So once that is done, Breezy != very broken?
[05:09] <freddy_> adwait, yes
[05:09] <archive> hello
[05:09] <Amaranth> Kyral: Heh, probably not.
[05:09] <Amaranth> Kyral: Lots of apps made stupid assumptions about X.
[05:10] <nalioth> !info proz-gui
[05:10] <Xira> I ordered some more CDs a few weeks ago. Will they be Breezy?
[05:10] <nalioth> no prozilla comes with ubuntu?
[05:10] <Kyral> So, we have to wait until Oct...
[05:10] <archive> i am wondering if you can help... i'm sorry for barging in like this, but i have an issue with warty i can't solve... sure is simple...
[05:10] <nalioth> Xira: probably not
[05:10] <goldfish> archive: ask away
[05:10] <nalioth> archive: you arent barging in
[05:10] <nybble> ttyl
[05:10] <adwait> freddy_:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41051&highlight=flash+sound+firefox
[05:10] <archive> my sound device is somehow not recognised
[05:10] <Amaranth> archive: Ouch, no one here uses warty anymore. :)
[05:10] <Kyral> I'm gonna friggin' laugh if it comes out on the 4th(My Birthday)
[05:10] <Xira> well the last time i ordered cds
[05:10] <Xira> it took like
[05:10] <Xira> 3-4 months
[05:10] <Xira> at least
[05:11] <adwait> freddy_: try tht link
[05:11] <Xira> so im wondering if they'll be breezy or not
[05:11] <Amaranth> Xira: I ordered mine the day hoary released and haven't gotten them yet. Be patient.
[05:11] <archive> is there anyway you could help me figure this out as i'm trying to get a machine together asap
[05:11] <Amaranth> Xira: They will be hoary.
[05:11] <Xira> I got my first set
[05:11] <archive> for g8radio
[05:11] <Xira> Which are hoary
[05:11] <Xira> I just ordered another set a few weeks ago
[05:11] <jasoncohen> how do i enable DMA on my dvd-rom drive permenantly?
[05:11] <Xira> I ordered my set before Hoary went Final
[05:11] <Xira> and when I got my cds
[05:11] <adwait> archive: g8radio? i assume thts a streaming site?
[05:11] <Xira> they were hoary final
[05:11] <IceDC571> yeah mine took 3-4 months and it was Hoary, i think i ordered them right when hoary came out
[05:12] <archive> yes, but from my title you may imagine i am not streaming. i'm just trying to put another box here
[05:12] <archive> but we want sound on it, so as to be a bit multifucntional
[05:12] <archive> in our context ;)
[05:12] <Kyral> archive: Upgrade to Hoary
[05:12] <adwait> archive: right..........not sure what the problem is? sound not wokring/
[05:12] <archive> really...?
[05:12] <Xira> By the way, is there anyway I can make (excuse my poor terminalology) non-X have a larger resolution? (the screen when X is not on, pure terminal)
[05:13] <archive> would rather try to fix without 3 your upgrade if poss
[05:13] <IceDC571> i think i'll add sound to my refridgerator, so i when i open it i hear streaming radio
[05:13] <archive> adwait: e.g from xmms
[05:13] <stisev> Anyone using Opera here
[05:13] <nalioth> IceDC571: samsung has beaten you to that, i believe
[05:13] <gbic> LG has it also
[05:13] <adwait> IceDC571: shouldnt be difficult......place a speaker in there and ur on
[05:13] <Xira> no, opera suxor
[05:13] <Xira> ;(
[05:13] <stisev> opera sucks?
[05:13] <stisev> ahh
[05:13] <freddy_> adwait, holy....thanks man
[05:13] <goldfish> archive: in prefences goto output plugin and change it to alsa, see if it works
[05:14] <Kyral> links2!
[05:14] <adwait> archive: ok.....well have u installed gstreamer?
[05:14] <adwait> freddy_: quick reply :D
[05:14] <mobiGeek> From which package does one get apxs ??
[05:14] <freddy_> adwait, i love you
[05:14] <Xira> its all about Deer Park
[05:14] <archive> 'make sureyour soundcard is configured correctly, you have the correct output plugin selected, no other prog is blocking the sound card'.
[05:14] <Xira> :D
[05:14] <freddy_> jesus i have so much to write down
[05:14] <archive> goldfish: have donne - same result
[05:14] <nalioth> Xira: Deer Park?
[05:14] <archive> adwait: no
[05:14] <adwait> archive: go to preferences and choose esound
[05:14] <HaroldJohnson> Hello everyone
[05:14] <gbic> new mozilla beta
[05:14] <goldfish> archive: have u tried the other output options available?
[05:14] <archive> adwait - same result
[05:14] <Kyral> nalioth, the FireFox Beta
[05:14] <Xira> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/
[05:14] <nalioth> Kyral: xira: ah
[05:14] <HaroldJohnson> I'm surprised to find so many here
[05:15] <Kyral> WTF? Galeon depends on Mozilla-Browser
[05:15] <Amaranth> Kyral: Yep, it uses the mozilla engine
[05:15] <HaroldJohnson> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an Old World PowerBook
[05:15] <Xira> Kyral, ep..
[05:15] <nalioth> Kyral: and so does galeon, and kazehakase and others
[05:15] <Xira> it uses gecko
[05:15] <geesus> Hi. Theres a bug in ubuntu, who do I have to sleep with to fast-track its fixing? :D
[05:15] <adwait> archive: hmm.....are the other sounds wokring? like the sounds when u click the icons in ubuntu etc.?
[05:15] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: wow, you're hardcore
[05:15] <Kyral> and are the backports down?
[05:15] <freddy_>  any of you guys know how to add plugins to totem? or you guys hate totem?
[05:15] <HaroldJohnson> No, seriously - can anyone help?
[05:15] <archive> adwait, goldfish - have tried other output plging the only one that does not complain is diskwriter, but i am imagining this does not do what i want!
[05:15] <Amaranth> Kyral: Seems like mirrormax is at least.
[05:15] <mobiGeek> From which package does one get apxs ??
[05:15] <Kyral> !info apxs
[05:16] <IceDC571> lol Kyral
[05:16] <adwait> archive: there are 4 plugins, alsa, OSS, esd
[05:16] <IceDC571> go to google and search for it
[05:16] <Amaranth> mobiGeek: apt-file will tell you
[05:16] <IceDC571> it isnt that hard
[05:16] <adwait> *3
[05:16] <Kyral> I'm lazy!
[05:16] <mobiGeek> Amaranth: thanks.
[05:16] <Xira> thanks for the help again araw1-
[05:16] <Xira> er
[05:16] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: hang on a minute
[05:16] <Xira> Arkainium,
[05:16] <Xira> Errr
[05:16] <Xira> Amaranth,
[05:16] <Xira> rather
[05:16] <Xira> lol >.>
[05:16] <Xira> blame autocomplete :P
[05:16] <archive> adwait: see above - none work
[05:17] <mobiGeek> Amaranth: and where do I get apt-file ?
[05:17] <Amaranth> mobiGeek: sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update && apt-file search apxs
[05:17] <adwait> archive: hmm k
[05:17] <archive> i do not have a /dev/dsp
[05:17] <mobiGeek> Amaranth: cool, thanks!
[05:17] <archive> is this expected?
[05:17] <jasoncohen> anyone know how to permenantly enable DMA on a drive? i set dma = on in /etc/hdparm.conf but it didn't stick
[05:17] <Amaranth> mobiGeek: At least I think that'll do it, I'm not on an ubuntu machine (buying a modem tomorrow)
[05:17] <Kyral> They should use a rotating server kinda thingy for Backports, like you go to one addy and it randomly sends you to one of the other servers
[05:17] <Amaranth> Kyral: round robin DNS?
[05:18] <Xira> I'm having problems with my sound too
[05:18] <Xira> It.. stopped working
[05:18] <Amaranth> Kyral: Start a thread in their subforum.
[05:18] <adwait> archive: i dont hv it either........so i guess its fine
[05:18] <Kyral> Amaranth, if that means what I said, yes
[05:18] <IceDC571> thats like trying to go to irc.freenode.net, it randomly gets you to a mirror
[05:18] <mobiGeek> Amaranth: Couldn't find package apt-file
[05:18] <goldfish> jasoncohen: thats where u set it, there's some examples on ubuntuforums.org  , i cant remember how to do it off-hand.
[05:18] <Kyral> yah
[05:18] <Xira> And when I try to start up artsd, it says it can't open /dev/dsp
[05:18] <Xira> I don't know what happened
[05:18] <Amaranth> mobiGeek: Ok, it's got a similar name.
[05:18] <Xira> But I'd love to have sound again!
[05:18] <Xira> >.<
[05:18] <Amaranth> mobiGeek: search for it
[05:18] <geesus> how do I check\set my locale ?
[05:19] <archive> xira  - its the sound problem day here!
[05:19] <Amaranth> geesus: /etc/environment
[05:19] <geesus> Amaranth: thank you :)
[05:20] <IceDC571> what do you think is the best sound card for linux?
[05:20] <Amaranth> does anyone know of any modems that you know work with ubuntu
[05:20] <Amaranth> ?
[05:20] <archive> so what does ubuntu call its sound devices?
[05:20] <virgule> ipod
[05:20] <Xira> Sigh, does anyone know how to make ubuntu reconfigure my sound config?
[05:20] <Xira> re-detect
[05:20] <Xira> etc
[05:20] <IceDC571> Amaranth: modems as in dial up?
[05:21] <stisev> et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[05:21] <gbic> xira
[05:21] <stisev> Hey guys
[05:21] <gbic> is esd running?
[05:21] <stisev> How do I install 'et-linux-2.60.x86.run"
[05:21] <stisev> It's not a .deb so I can't use dpkg
[05:21] <gbic> chmod +x blah.run
[05:21] <Amaranth> IceDC571: Yeah.
[05:21] <gbic> then /.blah.run
[05:21] <gbic> ./blah.run
[05:21] <Xira> root@evermore:~# esd
[05:21] <Xira> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:868:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[05:22] <Xira> i dont think so
[05:22] <adwait> can somebody tell me quick how to add an xmms skin to it, after downloading the gz file?
[05:22] <gbic> ps aux | grep esd
[05:22] <mobiGeek> xira:  ps -ef | grep esd
[05:22] <archive> so i am clueless as to what my problem is, or how to go about solving it....
[05:22] <Xira> root@evermore:~# ps aux | grep esd
[05:22] <Xira> root     13256  0.0  0.0   2908   636 pts/0    R+   20:22   0:00 grep esd
[05:22] <gbic> k
[05:22] <goldfish> adwait: extract it to ~/.xmms/skins i think is the way
[05:22] <archive> is there and alsaconfig thingy? how do i know if i'm using oss or alsa? or neither?
[05:22] <Xira> root@evermore:~# ps -ef | grep esd
[05:22] <Xira> root     13262  9177  0 20:22 pts/0    00:00:00 grep esd
[05:22] <virgule> I would put them in /usr/share/xmms/Skins
[05:22] <stisev> gbic: hey
[05:23] <gbic> ?
[05:23] <stisev> gbic: I tried chmod +x et-l*.run
[05:23] <stisev> gbic: but it didn't do anything
[05:23] <virgule> no news is good news
[05:23] <gbic> did you run it?
[05:23] <gbic> sh blah.run
[05:23] <aru> I used gparted to format my two other drives but now I need to make them mount in /home/aru, does this need to be done manually or is there a program for it?
[05:23] <Xira> gbic, so?
[05:24] <stisev> it's uncompressing now
[05:24] <gbic> one sec
[05:24] <stisev> Extraction failed.
[05:24] <stisev> Signal caught, cleaning up
[05:24] <gbic> too many open windows
[05:24] <nalioth> aru: what filessystme are the 2 new drives?
[05:24] <stisev> gbic: Private message OK?
[05:24] <gbic> lol
[05:24] <aru> nalioth: ext3
[05:24] <gbic> what is the .run ?
[05:24] <aru> I tried to format and mount them during the install but it wouldnt let me
[05:24] <nalioth> aru: a simple addition to the fstab should suffice
[05:24] <adwait> ok yup..tht was it goldfish thanks
[05:24] <stisev> gbic: No idea
[05:25] <archive> how does one add modules in 2.6 kernels... modconf was a 2.4 phenomenon, i believe... is there a replacement?
[05:25] <aru> alright, thanks
[05:25] <goldfish> adwait: np
[05:25] <gbic> you have no idea as to what you are going to potentially install??
[05:25] <Kyral> archive, modprobe?
[05:25] <gbic> xira
[05:25] <Xira> ?
[05:25] <gbic> what kind of card is it
[05:26] <Xira> It's an integrated intel card, worked great with ubuntu
[05:26] <gbic> try modprobe snd-*
[05:26] <archive> Kyral i t seems i have to know the names in advance.. this seems like a step backwards
[05:26] <Xira> root@evermore:~# modprobe snd-*
[05:26] <Xira> FATAL: Module snd_* not found.
[05:26] <Xira> It's an Intel 82801DB-ICH4
[05:26] <archive>  modprobe snd-*
[05:26] <archive> FATAL: Module snd_* not found.
[05:27] <gbic> yea
[05:27] <gbic> my bad typing
[05:27] <gbic> open up /etc/modules
[05:27] <archive> i also have some intel something... how do i find out?
[05:27] <adwait> hmm........i cant decide between xmms and rhythmbox........any idea which one is better?
[05:27] <gbic> do you see anything realting to your snd
[05:27] <archive> modprobe snd_*
[05:27] <archive> FATAL: Module snd_* not found.
[05:27] <Xira> root@evermore:~# /etc/modules
[05:27] <Xira> bash: /etc/modules: Permission denied
[05:27] <goldfish> adwait: beep-media-player
[05:27] <goldfish> adwait: is my preffered app.
[05:27] <gbic> vi /etc/modules
[05:28] <Xira> im in
[05:28] <adwait> hmm....i guess ill try tht too goldfish
[05:28] <gbic>  sudo lsmod | grep snd
[05:29] <adwait> no way to skin rhythmbox is there?
[05:29] <IceDC571> adwait: no
[05:29] <freddy_> i would like to know too
[05:29] <archive> snd_intel8x0           33068  0
[05:29] <archive> snd_ac97_codec         59268  1 snd_intel8x0
[05:29] <archive> snd_pcm_oss            48168  0
[05:29] <archive> snd_mixer_oss          16640  1 snd_pcm_oss
[05:29] <archive> snd_pcm                85540  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm_oss
[05:29] <archive> snd_timer              23172  1 snd_pcm
[05:29] <hondje> adwait: only by changing your gnome theme
[05:29] <archive> snd_page_alloc         11144  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
[05:29] <archive> gameport                4736  1 snd_intel8x0
[05:29] <archive> snd_mpu401_uart         7296  1 snd_intel8x0
[05:29] <archive> snd_rawmidi            23232  1 snd_mpu401_uart
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> yikes
[05:29] <archive> snd_seq_device          7944  1 snd_rawmidi
[05:29] <archive> snd                    50660  9 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
[05:29] <freddy_> pasting = BAD
[05:29] <archive> soundcore               9824  1 snd
[05:29] <archive> sorry, will get flood ban
[05:29] <archive> apologies
[05:29] <Xira> gbic, http://rafb.net/paste/results/PqESwi84.html
[05:29] <adwait> hondje: tht really doesnt change much except te borders/title bars maybe
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> archive, try http://pastebin.com
[05:30] <archive> sorry sorry
[05:30] <hyphenated> archive: content like that should go in a pastebin ;-)
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> or rafb.net
[05:30] <adwait> archive: pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:30] <archive> ok, i have may wris tslapped enough now
[05:30] <archive> ;)
[05:30] <hondje> yeah, you can't do too much with the theme
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> wow, cool
[05:30] <gbic> hmm
[05:30] <gbic> try alsamixer
[05:30] <Xira> http://rafb.net/paste/results/PqESwi84.html
[05:30] <hondje> well, you can, but you need a theme engine and the like
[05:30] <Xira> gbic, My card used to be in alsamixer
[05:30] <Xira> but its not anymore
[05:30] <Xira> i honestly dont know what happened
[05:31] <gbic> odd
[05:31] <archive> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[05:31] <gbic> hmm
[05:31] <goldfish> archive: run 'alsamixer' from a terminal, check stuff isnt muted.
[05:31] <goldfish> oh
[05:31] <archive> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[05:31] <goldfish> hehe
[05:31] <goldfish> :/
[05:32] <gbic> hmm
[05:32] <gbic> both have the same errors
[05:32] <gbic> lol
[05:32] <Xira> I remeber installing this package in synaptic that combined alsa and artsd or something of that sort
[05:32] <gbic> twins?
[05:32] <Xira> maybe thats it?
[05:32] <gbic> could be
[05:32] <Xira> I just don't remember the name
[05:32] <gbic> do you have alsa-modules installed?
[05:32] <gbic> brb need cold glass of h20
[05:33] <freddy_> h20? thats like an explosive?
[05:33] <Xira> How do I check?
[05:33] <IceDC571> !h20
[05:33] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, IceDC571
[05:33] <gbic> use synaptic is you want
[05:33] <gbic> h20 is WATER
[05:33] <gbic> you fool
[05:33] <gbic> hehe
[05:33] <IceDC571> no
[05:33] <IceDC571> thats h2o
[05:33] <freddy_> h2O is water ;)
[05:34] <gbic> yaya
[05:34] <Xira> I have alsa-base
[05:34] <gbic> h2O
[05:34] <Xira> i dont see alsa-modules
[05:34] <gbic> sue me
[05:34] <KungFuKiD> h20 is acid
[05:34] <KungFuKiD> jk
[05:34] <IceDC571> zero doesnt stand for oxygen.. oh god
[05:34] <gbic> h20 is ubuntu juice
[05:34] <KungFuKiD> heh
[05:34] <gbic> xira
[05:34] <gbic> install it
[05:34] <Xira> yes?
[05:34] <Xira> i dont see it in synaptic
[05:34] <adwait> anybody knows if i can get yahoo mesenger to use esound/alsa?
[05:35] <hondje> what's better for watching streaming video online, real or .asx?
[05:35] <KungFuKiD> adwait: in wine?
[05:35] <archive> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/390
[05:35] <Xira> searching for alsa-modules in synaptic comes up with nothing
[05:35] <archive> hows that ;)
[05:35] <CRasH180> 1 hydrogen + 2 zeroes = 1 hydrogen
[05:35] <freddy_> do you guys know of any appl that i can use to extract the songs of my ipod?
[05:35] <adwait> KungFu: no......messenger for unix
[05:35] <KungFuKiD> adwait, which one?
[05:35] <archive> ie no alsa-modules cos it no longer exisits
[05:35] <gbic> hmm
[05:35] <Xira> gbic, http://rafb.net/paste/results/IwPLFM78.html
[05:36] <goldfish> alsa-utils
[05:36] <adwait> kungfukid: the yahoo messenger for unix/linux.....downloaded off the yahoo site
[05:36] <Kyral> freddy_, I believe that gtkpod can
[05:36] <KungFuKiD> the  official unix yahoo client doesn't support voice
[05:36] <adwait> the official one
[05:36] <Xira> I have alsa-utils
[05:36] <hondje> adwait: that client sucks terribly
[05:36] <brittle> ephpod is good too
[05:36] <archive> me too
[05:36] <KungFuKiD> adwait, it doesn't support voice
[05:36] <hondje> adwait: gaim is way better
[05:36] <adwait> kungfukid: i know........but those sounds tht it makes whn the messages arrive........
[05:36] <IceDC571> i like to use wine and aim for direct connections
[05:36] <archive> Xira nad i sit in same boat, except mine is a new install, xira apparently had somethign running before. odd no?
[05:37] <KungFuKiD> adwait: try gaim-vv
[05:37] <adwait> but the other clients dont support offline messages.........
[05:37] <archive> xira what are you running? warty? hoary?
[05:37] <Xira> hoary
[05:37] <Xira> latest version
[05:37] <Xira> upgraded an hour ago
[05:37] <KungFuKiD> adwait, http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/
[05:38] <IceDC571> ohh yeah baby.. my whorey hedgehog
[05:38] <adwait> kungfukid: going...
[05:38] <IceDC571> i love mine
[05:38] <adwait> kungfukid: which one comes with ubuntu, preinstalled?
[05:39] <KungFuKiD> adwait, grab the tar ball and build it
[05:39] <adwait> right...
[05:39] <adwait> hmm....gaim refuses to connect
[05:39] <freddy_> now
[05:40] <freddy_> time to configure my main box
[05:40] <IceDC571> adwait: maybe you're dreaming and you're not really chatting with us
[05:40] <adwait> icedc571: huh?
[05:40] <adwait> icedc571: i meant the gaim installed on the pc with uibuntu
[05:41] <IceDC571> adwait: are you connected to a proxy or firewall?
[05:41] <adwait> icedc571: i am connected thru and adsl router which has builtin firewall
[05:43] <pressure_man> who wants to start a bounty for a php5 package in universe or breezy/main ?
[05:43] <mebaran151> a bounty
[05:43] <mebaran151> ?
[05:44] <mebaran151> I could make a pkg ....
[05:44] <mebaran151> if I ever took up learning to do it
[05:44] <pressure_man> i could fly a jumbo jet... if i ever took up lessons.
[05:44] <Amaranth> pressure_man: It's being worked on
[05:44] <mebaran151> heheh
[05:44] <pressure_man> Amaranth: any pre-release pkgs?
[05:45] <Amaranth> not that i know of
[05:45] <pressure_man> i was using ones from http://people.debian.org/~dexter/ until the guy bumped up a version number in required pkgs
[05:45] <Amaranth> pressure_man: If they existed they would be for breezy.
[05:46] <pressure_man> i don't have a problem with that.
[05:46] <airmikey> well guys is brezzy ...ready
[05:46] <pressure_man> i'm going to try building some for breezy from a deb-src on the url i mentioned above
[05:46] <pressure_man> in its entirety, no.
[05:46] <Amaranth> airmikey: Not even close, actually.
[05:46] <airmikey> hmm
[05:46] <pressure_man> but individual packages are ok
[05:47] <pressure_man> heck, it's probably even ok as a complete os, as long as you only do the 'server' install (no gui)
[05:47] <Amaranth> pressure_man: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12222#c3
[05:48] <pressure_man> that's php4-mysql
[05:48] <stisev> hi all
[05:49] <stisev> Can anyone help me install Enemy Territory/
[05:49] <stisev> I downloaded "et-linux-2.60.x86.run" from an FTP site
[05:49] <stisev> double clicked to decompress but I keep getting this error message
[05:49] <Amaranth> pressure_man: Read the comment...
[05:49] <adwait> stisev; i dont think thts a compressed file........u need to run it using sudo sh <filename>
[05:50] <pressure_man> yup.. at the bottom. sounds good. i wonder how soon is soon.
[05:50] <stisev> adwait: What is .run representative of
[05:50] <gbic> indeed
[05:50] <adwait> stisev: of a binary file......likewise .bin
[05:50] <zerboxx> Is there any easy way to change the permissions of a folder, and all files and folders within it?
[05:50] <stisev> adwait: Acknowledged
[05:50] <gbic> Rgr that.
[05:50] <stisev> adwait: I did the Sudo sh, but it does the same thing
[05:50] <gbic> stisev
[05:51] <stisev> adwait: The same text that comes up in the window comes up in sudo sh
[05:51] <gbic> did you chmod +x file.run ?
[05:51] <toto> zerboxx: on the command line, chmod -R
[05:51] <stisev> stand by
[05:51] <stisev> stisev@SEVLAN:~/Desktop$ chmod +x et-*
[05:51] <stisev> stisev@SEVLAN:~/Desktop$
[05:51] <gbic> ok
[05:51] <adwait> aah yes
[05:51] <gbic> now sh flie.run
[05:51] <stisev> as you can see, that command produced no result.
[05:51] <stisev> k
[05:51] <stisev> running.
[05:51] <gbic> it did infact
[05:51] <stisev> stand by.
[05:51] <adwait> stisev: chmod +x <filename>
[05:51] <stisev> gbic: : explain.
[05:51] <adwait> stisev: tht makes the file executable
[05:51] <stisev> O_O
[05:51] <stisev> chmod changes the permission files does it not?
[05:52] <gbic> yes
[05:52] <toto> yes
[05:52] <stisev> gbic:  Same result
[05:52] <stisev> gbic: "Extraction failed"
[05:52] <gbic> what is your "result"
[05:52] <adwait> stisev: yes.....it gives u the exectue permission....there are three permissions read/write/exectute
[05:52] <gbic> broken downlaod maybe
[05:52] <stisev> .................................................................................Extraction failed.
[05:52] <stisev> Signal caught, cleaning up
[05:52] <stisev> stisev@SEVLAN:~/Desktop$
[05:52] <stisev> gbic: I don't think so. I downloaded it twice.
[05:52] <stisev> gbic: Did the same thing o_O
[05:52] <gbic> do you have an md5 to check it
[05:52] <gbic> meh
[05:52] <gbic> need sleep
[05:53] <stisev> gbic: I know how to do that on Windows, but how would do it on XP/
[05:53] <gbic> work tomorrow
[05:53] <stisev> er XP = linux
[05:53] <zerboxx> toto: chmod -R then what?
[05:53] <stisev> Enemy Territory et-linux-2.60.x86.run.zip 258MB or mirrors Mar 21, 2005
[05:53] <stisev> mv et-linux-2.60.x86.run.zip et-linux-2.60.x86.run (rename file)
[05:53] <stisev> chmod +x et-linux-2.60.x86.run (make executable)
[05:53] <stisev> sh et-linux-2.60.x86.run (run installer)
[05:53] <adwait> stisev: hmm....do u hv an md5 to check the download?
[05:53] <stisev> that's what a website told me
[05:53] <toto> zerboxx: then the mode (eg a+x) followed by the target (eg the thing you want to change)
[05:53] <stisev> adwait: eh?
[05:54] <gbic> ahh
[05:54] <gbic> lol
[05:54] <gbic> sti
[05:54] <gbic> you need to unzip
[05:54] <adwait> stisev: to check tht the file is fine, u can calculate the md5 checksum and check it with the md5 provided on site
[05:54] <gbic> you cant just mv a zip to a .run
[05:54] <rkulagow_> hi, all.  doing my first foray into diskless booting.  i've got the installer running via pxe, and in /etc/dhcpd.conf on a debian box i've set a "option root-path "/nfsroot/basement/"; however the installer is insisting on partitioning the 15GB drive that's in the test machine.  what i'm trying to do is to have it install to the root path via NFS and not to the local drive (which currently has FC3 on it).  do i need to install ubun
[05:54] <gbic> unzip file.zip
[05:54] <gbic> THEN
[05:54] <gbic> run the file
[05:54] <gbic> lol
[05:54] <stisev> gbic: It's weird.
[05:54] <adwait> the instructions seem to say simply rename it
[05:54] <toto> stisev: file extensions on unix aren't as 'important' as they are in windows.
[05:55] <stisev> gbic: It has no .ZIP extension
[05:55] <gbic> et-linux-2.60.x86.run.zip
[05:55] <stisev> the file is called et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[05:55] <gbic> looks like a zip to me
[05:55] <gbic> amuse me
[05:55] <gbic> and unzip it
[05:55] <stisev> nono.. that's just from a site.
[05:55] <stisev> Stand b
[05:55] <stisev> gbic: What's the best way to unzip it
[05:56] <stisev> unzip + filename?
[05:56] <toto> unzip FILE
[05:56] <stisev> k
[05:56] <stisev> Archive:  et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[05:56] <stisev>   End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[05:56] <stisev> looks like it's not a zip file
[05:56] <gbic> no
[05:56] <gbic> the original dl you had
[05:56] <gbic> was it a zip
[05:56] <freddy_> sigh
[05:56] <stisev> gbic: no
[05:56] <freddy_> brb
[05:57] <stisev> gbic: I downloaded it like this
[05:57] <gbic> as your instruction said to mv zip to run
[05:57] <stisev> gbic: The instructions I posted were off some other site.
[05:57] <stisev> gbic: I downloaded it from an FTP
[05:57] <stisev> :(
[05:57] <gbic> try another mirror
[05:57] <gbic> perhaps that file is corrupt
[05:57] <adwait> stisev: i think the file is broken
[05:57] <gbic> which it seems
[05:57] <Xira> Does anyone here know how to make the non-X (pure terminal) resolution bigger?
[05:57] <gbic> anyways
[05:57] <gbic> Im off to bed
[05:57] <bryan> hi all... two questions:
[05:57] <bryan> 1.  how do i force ubuntu to give me the correct screen res?  my lcd is 1024x768 but ubuntu only allows 800x600?
[05:57] <toto> Xira: yup
[05:57] <stisev> k
[05:57] <bryan> 2.  how do i install a package, like "somepackage.deb"?
[05:57] <gbic> us Canadians arent off tomorrow
[05:57] <gbic> hwhw
[05:57] <stisev> gbic: : thanks for the file
[05:57] <toto> Xira: :-)
[05:58] <Xira> toto: mind telling me how?
[05:58] <stisev> bryan: : dpkg -i <package name>
[05:58] <stisev> bryan: actually, use ........
[05:58] <adwait> sudo dpkg -i <filename>
[05:58] <stisev> bryan:  sudo dpkg -i <package name> ( you'll have to enter your password)
[05:58] <toto> Xira: i append a vga=MODE string to my kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:58] <toto> Xira: here's what i've got...
[05:58] <bryan> stisev: thanks...  any ideas about #1?
[05:58] <freddy> omg
[05:59] <freddy> no sound on the main box either
[05:59] <freddy> :(
[05:59] <toto> Xira: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash vga=0x0318
[05:59] <Xira> ehh
[05:59] <adwait> bryan: edit xorg.conf, check if ur drivers are the right ones
[05:59] <Xira> i'm squeemish at messing with my boot flags
[05:59] <Xira> >.<
[05:59] <bryan> adwait: i did that, but it still wont recognize
[05:59] <toto> Xira: there are other ways, but i've found editing menu.lst to be the easiest
[05:59] <stisev> bryan: no idea
[05:59] <bryan> googled a bunch, seems like a common problem for lcd screens
[05:59] <adwait> bryan: ok try adding the resolution u want manually to the xorg.conf
[06:00] <bryan> stisev: thanks anyway
[06:00] <stisev> bryan: np
[06:00] <bryan> adwait: did that...
[06:00] <nalioth> bryan: rerun "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the resolutions you want
[06:00] <bryan> nalioth: thanks!
[06:00] <toto> Xira: you could also look at svgatextmode
[06:00] <toto> Xira: although I have little experience with that.
[06:01] <Xira> so
[06:01] <Xira> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-686 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash vga=0x0318
[06:01] <Xira> ?
[06:01] <bryan> thanks for all your help, gang!  :-)
[06:01] <nalioth> Xira: whats with the rack of hard drives?
[06:01] <Xira> nalioth, eh?
[06:01] <toto> Xira: that'd be ok, if 0x0318 is the mode you want.
[06:01] <Xira> toto: what res is that?
[06:01] <Xira> i'd like 1600x1200
[06:02] <toto> Xira: try 'sudo hwinfo --framebuffer' to see what your setup is capable of; mine is set for 1024x768
[06:02] <Xira> nalioth, how are you spying into my house?
[06:02] <Xira> >.<
[06:02] <freddy> nalioth, that link you gave me earlier have info about fixing sound? i dont recall..
[06:02] <nalioth> Xira: you sent a link to a buncha pix a while back
[06:02] <nalioth> Xira: one of em was a rack of HDs
[06:02] <Xira> i have a lot of storage
[06:02] <nalioth> freddy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[06:03] <Xira> hwinfo is not a command
[06:03] <nalioth> Xira: share the wild story of what it is...
[06:03] <toto> Xira: 'sudo apt-get install hwinfo'
[06:03] <Xira> nalioth, it's 4.5TB of storage
[06:03] <Xira> I do a lot of video editing
[06:03] <Xira> and I backup the movies I buy
[06:03] <toto> Xira: niiiiice.
[06:04] <Xira> It's local storage
[06:04] <Xira> powered by ubuntu
[06:04] <goldfish> cool
[06:04] <toto> Xira: what do you use for video editing (under linux)?
[06:04] <Xira> I don't
[06:04] <Xira> I use a mac for video editing
[06:04] <toto> Xira: gotcha.
[06:04] <Xira> video editing on linux is pretty moot
[06:04] <biovore> kino is for video editing, not that good though..
[06:04] <toto> yeah, i've used that in the past...
[06:04] <IceDC571> at least the roots of OSX is unix
[06:04] <nalioth> Xira: you rule!
[06:05] <Xira> thanks?
[06:05] <toto> i don't really *need* to do video editing...
[06:05] <toto> Xira: any luck with the console res?
[06:05] <IceDC571> its hard enough just to get video playing correctly with linux
[06:05] <Xira> toto: i'll find out when i reboot this box :)
[06:05] <lilian> how can i make ubuntu to not syncronize the clock everytime when loading the system?
[06:06] <stisev> why do I ALWAYS have a hard time installing crap on Linux
[06:06] <stisev> argh
[06:06] <IceDC571> lilian: disable the ntp service
[06:06] <jasmuz> IceDC571: that isnt true
[06:06] <stisev> I'm trying to install Lmule
[06:06] <freddy> im getting this error alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[06:06] <freddy> :(
[06:06] <Xira> lilian, alternately, while its trying to resolve, hit ctrl c
[06:06] <freddy> shiat
[06:06] <Xira> that should stop it
[06:06] <Xira> wlel
[06:06] <Xira> skip it rather
[06:06] <lilian> okay, thanks you both :)
[06:06] <IceDC571> lilian: Boot-Up manager for gnome is pretty good for editing services that run on startup
[06:06] <archive> xira - your problem solved yet?
[06:06] <jasmuz> stisev: dont you mean amule
[06:06] <stisev> jasmuz: huh?
[06:07] <Xira> archive: somewhat
[06:07] <stisev> jasmuz: Lmule
[06:07] <nalioth> Xira: how do you have all those HDs plumbed in?
[06:07] <stisev> jasmuz: what is aMule
[06:07] <Xira> ata
[06:07] <archive> does the sound work?
[06:07] <IceDC571> !aMule
[06:07] <ubotu> IceDC571: I don't know
[06:07] <nalioth> !info amule
[06:07] <IceDC571> what the crap.. i dont know how to make anything work on this bot lol
[06:07] <ubotu> amule: (aNOTHER eMule P2P Client), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.6+rc7-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1992 kB, Installed size: 5888 kB
[06:07] <stisev> jasmuz: cool let me try it out
[06:07] <stisev> jasmuz: Can I PM u:?
[06:07] <freddy> omg :(
[06:07] <Xira> nalioth, ATA
[06:08] <nalioth> Xira: ya got extra PCI ata controller(s) in the box?
[06:08] <Xira> n, special mobo
[06:08] <Xira> intel server mobo to be specific
[06:09] <nalioth> Xira: ah. well i was just wondering
[06:09] <Xira> that picture i had was before I got a secure grounded glass case for that rack
[06:09] <Xira> that was ultra-ghetto
[06:09] <nalioth> Xira: fixin to build a dual-amd64 box and was gonna load it with storage
[06:09] <freddy> anyone have any idea on how to fix that little problem?
[06:09] <nalioth> Xira: ghetto, but cool running
[06:09] <Xira> i would've killed myself if that rack tipped over
[06:09] <toto> freddy: which?
[06:09] <freddy> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[06:09] <freddy> that ^
[06:10] <Xira> thank god its in a secured locked grounded glass case with breathing and AC now
[06:10] <Xira> i can sleep at night
[06:10] <IceDC571> Xira: can i see?
[06:10] <Xira> sure, when i go out to the store and buy some batteries
[06:10] <nalioth> IceDC571: its glass, dont fog it up
[06:10] <Xira> camera == dead
[06:10] <IceDC571> Xira: can i come over and see it?
[06:10] <nalioth> Xira: show him the ghetto pix
[06:10] <Xira> hah
[06:11] <Xira> 1 sec
[06:11] <hondje> what fortran compiler does breezy have?
[06:11] <toto> freddy: i had that problem once, actually...i'm trying to remember how i fixed it.
[06:11] <IceDC571> i want to draw my name on the glass!!
[06:11] <freddy> toto, :(
[06:11] <Xira> http://synchronizedesigns.us/ubuntu/hddrack.jpg -- before the new case
[06:11] <Xira> ghetto setup
[06:11] <archive> gbic bit baffled... no .asoundrc
[06:11] <archive> will redo...
[06:11] <guatenais> add
[06:11] <guatenais> hi
[06:11] <nalioth> !info fortran breezy
[06:11] <guatenais> hello
[06:11] <Xira> IceDC571, http://synchronizedesigns.us/ubuntu/hddrack.jpg
[06:12] <Xira> before the rack case
[06:12] <nalioth> hondje: i'm not asking right, or it doesnt have one
[06:12] <hondje> :o
[06:12] <hondje> g77?
[06:12] <guatenais> hi
[06:12] <nalioth> hondje: you can ask the same as me
[06:12] <IceDC571> Xira: lucky you!
[06:12] <nalioth> !info g77 breezy
[06:12] <guatenais> everybody here
[06:12] <ubotu> g77: (The GNU Fortran 77 compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 40 kB
[06:12] <guatenais> hixira
[06:12] <toto> freddy: tried alsaconf?
[06:12] <Xira> hi
[06:12] <hondje> ah, thanks nalioth
[06:12] <guatenais> hi xira
[06:13] <hondje> missed that feature :)
[06:13] <Xira> IceDC571, I got a large metal grounded case with glass dooors, ac unit and breathing holes
[06:13] <freddy> toto, i dont have alsaconf as a command
[06:13] <Xira> plus i replaced that CRT with a 15" LCD
[06:13] <guatenais> where are you from
[06:13] <IceDC571> Xira: how many people can you stuff in it?
[06:13] <IceDC571> :)
[06:13] <ghostdog> question, is there a problem with the parted and libparted packages?
[06:13] <toto> freddy: 'sudo apt-get install alsa-utils'
[06:13] <guatenais> where are you from xira
[06:13] <bimberi> !info gfortran breezy
[06:13] <ubotu> gfortran: (The GNU Fortran 95 compiler), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 4.0.0-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 0 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[06:13] <nalioth> ghostdog: there shouldnt be problems
[06:13] <IIIEars> Hello! - I would like to put two commands together the second command waiting to start after the first has finished it doesn't need information from the first command.
[06:14] <freddy> toto,  alsa-utils is already the newest version.
[06:14] <ghostdog> I am doing an apt-get install and it stops at )%
[06:14] <ghostdog> 0%
[06:14] <nalioth> IIIEars: command1 && command2
[06:14] <hondje> Thanks, bimberi
[06:14] <ghostdog> all other packages are fine
[06:14] <toto> freddy: hmm...
[06:14] <bimberi> hondje: yw :)
[06:14] <guatenais> hello everybody can helpme
[06:14] <IIIEars> nalioth - you have done it again! :) - Thank You.
[06:14] <archive> archive will reboot, and if fails and returns here with no other suggestions ill retreat to demudi....
[06:14] <guatenais> hello somebody can help me
[06:15] <nalioth> guatenais: help with what?
[06:15] <Xira> guatenais, citrus heights, ca
[06:15] <guatenais> i wanna install skype buy i can not
[06:15] <guatenais> but i can install
[06:15] <freddy> O_o
[06:15] <hyphenated> guatenais: why not?
[06:16] <freddy> como?
[06:16] <ghostdog> that is strange, everything related to parted, qtparted, etc.. hangs when apt-getting
[06:16] <hyphenated> guatenais: I have it installed and working fine
[06:16] <nalioth> ghostdog: do you have unofficial repos?
[06:16] <freddy> i can install but can not? O_o
[06:16] <guatenais> really
[06:16] <Keizer`> Sup guys
[06:16] <guatenais> how did you do
[06:16] <Keizer`> I gave away three Ubuntu CDs the other day.
[06:16] <ghostdog> I play around with universe but always disactivate them after getting a certain package
[06:16] <Keizer`> What's the sudo apt-get command to upgrade everything? I'm on my laptop which I don't use often and needs and update.
[06:17] <nalioth> Keizer`: dja get invitations to help install, too?
[06:17] <hyphenated> dpkg -i thedebfiledownloadedfromskype.deb
[06:17] <IceDC571> i give ubuntu cds to the homeless.. they might be rich someday
[06:17] <toto> freddy: can you play any sounds?
[06:17] <freddy> this problem doesnt look as easy as the one i had with the laptop :(
[06:17] <freddy> toto,  nada...nothing....zero
[06:17] <guatenais> what did you do
[06:17] <toto> freddy: zilch...
[06:17] <nalioth> ghostdog: you can keep uni and multi enabled all the time, watch the backports and marillat
[06:17] <guatenais> i can not install skype
[06:17] <ghostdog> ok
[06:17] <Keizer`> nalioth, Heh
[06:18] <Xira> brb
[06:18] <freddy> toto, zilch?
[06:18] <ghostdog> by the way, today I erased my last ntfs partition :D
[06:18] <IceDC571> ive had so many problems with marillat, it messed up my whole system once
[06:18] <nalioth> ghostdog: BP and marillat are not good for prolonged use (no matter waht anyone else says)
[06:18] <freddy> that a command or something?
[06:18] <toto> freddy: also means zero.
[06:18] <freddy> haha
[06:18] <freddy> ok
[06:18] <nalioth> ghostdog: congratulations!
[06:18] <guatenais> somebody can speak spanish
[06:18] <hyphenated> guatenais: we can chat here, no need to chat over dcc
[06:18] <guatenais> ok
[06:18] <hondje> guatenais: #ubuntu-es
[06:18] <nalioth> guatenais: hablamos espanol en #ubuntu-es
[06:18] <toto> freddy: well, have you done some deeper looking? what module does your card use?
[06:19] <guatenais> can you help me
[06:19] <freddy> no card
[06:19] <freddy> integrated
[06:19] <hondje> nalioth: seveas said backports are safe now....
[06:19] <AMDXP> I am having space issues what can uninstall with ubuntu
[06:19] <ghostdog> man I am dumb!
[06:19] <jasmuz> guatenais: te puedo ayudar
[06:19] <ghostdog> apt-setup disable cdrom :Retard
[06:19] <toto> freddy: still has a chip in it. more or less the same thing.
[06:19] <guatenais> si
[06:19] <freddy> toto, intel then lol
[06:19] <nalioth> hondje: use them if you like, i'm only enabling them if there is a proggy i cant live without (and then i'm puttin the # back)
[06:19] <guatenais> tengo un problema con la instalacion de skype
[06:20] <freddy> jasmuz, yes you can "te puedo ayudar" but in #ubuntu-es
[06:20] <toto> freddy: for example, my laptop has integrated sound...what's the output of 'lsmod | grep snd'?
[06:20] <ghostdog> ok, I feel like such a noob xD
[06:20] <ghostdog> thanks for the help
[06:20] <hondje> nalioth: hehe
[06:20] <jasmuz> im taking care of it
[06:20] <archive> ok,
[06:20] <freddy> toto, lots of stuff
[06:21] <freddy> toto, ill paste in a paste thing
[06:21] <nalioth> hondje: did you know that someone here posts these logs onto the web?
[06:21] <toto> ok...
[06:21] <hondje> nalioth: my trolling is googlable? :o
[06:21] <nalioth> hondje: yes it is
[06:21] <blasphemy> Hi guys i have a question on partitioning i am currently running XP but would like to set Ubuntu up also although i am a little unsure, so i thought i'd write down what was onscreen, i still want to keep XP..
[06:21] <hondje> well, if it helps someone googling for 'how do I do this common thing', I'm all for it
[06:21] <jasmuz> guatenais: talk to me in query
[06:21] <freddy> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/391
[06:22] <freddy> toto, ^^
[06:22] <ghostdog> exit
[06:22] <goldfish> blasphemy: you'll have to resize your hard-drive and make soem free unpartitioned space for ubuntu.
[06:22] <nalioth> blasphemy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[06:22] <archive> sound still not working
[06:22] <nalioth> blasphemy: all the tools are on the install cd
[06:22] <toto> freddy: so your card is probably called 'bt87x; or similar. have you googled for that?
[06:22] <archive> have edited asound.conf
[06:22] <nalioth> blasphemy: but you can move things if you have partition magic b4 you install
[06:22] <archive> but still same messages
[06:23] <absinthe> what's a good picture viewer for Xfce?
[06:23] <freddy> toto, no didnt know my card was called like that...gonna google a bit lol
[06:23] <nalioth> hondje: yes, it surprised me t'other day, i was googlin for some help, and googled MYSELF
[06:23] <archive> $ alsamixer
[06:23] <archive> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[06:23] <nalioth> absinthe: feg
[06:23] <toto> freddy: ok...see especially: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?module=bt87x
[06:23] <archive> it clearly doesn't like definition 'defrault'
[06:23] <nalioth> absinthe: hang on a minim
[06:23] <archive> *default
[06:24] <absinthe> nalioth, ok
[06:24] <blasphemy> SCSI1(0,0,0)(sda)-200.0GB ATA ST3200822AS #2 Primary 4.4GB fat32 #1 Primary 195.7GB ntfs................SCSI2(0,0,0)(sdb)-200.0GB ATA ST3200822AS #5 logical 200.0GB........Is it SCSI2?? I have "Configure software RAID", "Configure the Logical Volume Manager", "Guided partitioning" & "Help on partitioning"
[06:24] <nalioth> absinthe: feh
[06:24] <nalioth> !info feh
[06:24] <ubotu> feh: (imlib2 based image viewer), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 1.2.7-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 271 kB, Installed size: 500 kB
[06:24] <blasphemy> I am confused as to what to click on
[06:24] <nalioth> absinthe: there ya go
[06:24] <absinthe> nalioth, thanks!
[06:25] <blasphemy> scsi1 is the windows one???
[06:27] <nalioth> i'm not familiar with scsi drives
[06:27] <freddy> omg im getting no love
[06:28] <nalioth> freddy: what about the orgasm?
[06:28] <cafuego> nalioth: They're identical to ide, except are called sdX instead of hdX
[06:28] <blasphemy> But it should be safe to do whatever to SCSI2, without effecting windows, right ????
[06:28] <Arkx> hello, I'm a newbie trying to install ati drivers on amd64.. however, synaptic only finds some xfree86 drivers - I was under the impression I am using xorg. How come it can't find xorg drivers?
[06:28] <blasphemy> Even if ya dont know what you're on about kinda thing
[06:28] <blasphemy> Lol
[06:29] <IIIEars> nalioth - Can you play a sound at the end of a command string?
[06:29] <nalioth> IIIEars: sure
[06:30] <adwait> hello again ppl
[06:30] <nalioth> IIIEars: something like this comand1 && command2 && mpg321 <soundfile>
[06:30] <freddy> nalioth, the orgasm was in my laptop.....but now my main box wont work the sound
[06:31] <IIIEars> nalioth - Thank You
[06:31] <nalioth> cafuego: blasphemy: then i'm confused due to formatting in this channel
[06:32] <cafuego> blasphemy: Well, if you're sure you got no data on the second drive, then just tell it to use the whole disk.
[06:32] <nalioth> blasphemy: can ya put that info in a pastebin?
[06:32] <nalioth> blasphemy: or what cafuego said will do
[06:32] <cafuego> blasphemy: The whole *second* disk, that is.
[06:32] <blasphemy> lol!
[06:33] <rkulagow_> i'm pasting this again; didn't get a response.  any clues?
[06:33] <rkulagow_> hi, all.  doing my first foray into diskless booting.  i've got the installer running via pxe, and in /etc/dhcpd.conf on a debian box i've set a "option root-path "/nfsroot/basement/"; however the installer is insisting on partitioning the 15GB drive that's in the test machine.  what i'm trying to do is to have it install to the root path via NFS and not to the local drive (which currently has FC3 on it).  do i need to install ubun
[06:33] <blasphemy> Hey splitting it into smaller bits is too confusing for me right now, but yes i am pretty sure, so thanks guys, thats what i'll go for..
[06:34] <SpecialBuddy> does anyone know how to put the little computers that show if there is a network on the toolbar of kubuntu
[06:34] <archive> ok how do i load the snd modukles
[06:34] <archive> *modules?
[06:34] <adwait> right click on bar/ add to panel/select the network monitor
[06:34] <adwait> ok no....thts gnome.........but its probably same for KDE
[06:35] <SpecialBuddy> I don't know if they have network monitor
[06:35] <nalioth> SpecialBuddy: what adwait will work for you
[06:35] <archive> please
[06:35] <toto> archive: sudo modprobe MODULE
[06:35] <adwait> SpecialBudyy: theres only 1 way to find out.....
[06:36] <archive> this is very boring there are hundreds of snd_modules... which ones do i need?
[06:36] <toto> archive: which card do you have?
[06:36] <archive> god knows something on an intel mobo
[06:36] <archive> shall i unpack?
[06:36] <toto> archive: unpack?
[06:36] <cafuego> rkulagow_: if you want to run an nfsroot system, you need to not use the pxe installer, but run a local debootstrap install (install diskless) and then set up NFS and pxe.
[06:37] <freddy> if you are staying? unpack then
[06:37] <nalioth> archive: a 'lspci' or 'sudo lshw' should provide some info
[06:37] <freddy> dont know at what time is your flight..but ok
[06:37] <SpecialBuddy> archive, couldn't see anything like network monitor
[06:37] <archive> unscrew the box and investigate, or somehow or other determine the nature of the beast ;)
[06:37] <cafuego> rkulagow_: The pxe installer will NOT allow you to set up a netbootable system, it's intended to boot up systems without floppy/cd and THEN to install to local harddisk.
[06:37] <archive> SpecialBuddy ? sorry?
[06:37] <SpecialBuddy> thats ok
[06:37] <toto> archive: ah. probably not necessary. see nalioth's comment.
[06:37] <nalioth> SpecialBuddy: open synaptic and search for "network" you should find the knetworkmonitor
[06:38] <SpecialBuddy> ok
[06:38] <rkulagow_> cafuego: thanks.
[06:38] <archive> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/393
[06:40] <archive> i should say at this stage lsmod |grep snd ---> nada
[06:40] <nalioth> archive: how bout the "sudo lshw"  ?
[06:41] <spanish> i need some help with this. i get a black border/no fulllscreen 3d with fglrx
[06:41] <spanish> i hear heaps of ppl have the same prob
[06:41] <archive> nalioth: added http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/393
[06:42] <freddy> if anyone have sometime to keep helping me with my sound i would apreciate it
[06:42] <freddy> cause i got lost
[06:42] <rkulagow_> cafuego: i'm trying to parse "run a local debootstrap install"; so, on my NFS / TFTP server (debian woody), are you saying that i need to apt-get install the diskless package?
[06:42] <SpecialBuddy> nalioth, do you know of anything to use for volume like on gnome
[06:42] <adwait> freddy:repeat please.........*maybe* i can help :p (H
[06:43] <adwait> (heck  i can try atleast )
[06:43] <nalioth> SpecialBuddy: kmixer i believe provides a volume control
[06:43] <nalioth> SpecialBuddy: may be kmix or something
[06:44] <nalioth> archive: keep that pastebin, cuz i'm no help with your hardware issue
[06:44] <archive> aumix, kmix, alsamixer
[06:44] <nalioth> but now people can see what ya got
[06:44] <SpecialBuddy> ok
[06:44] <wxy> Hi there! Need help resetting Thunderbird as default mail client.
[06:45] <archive> nalioth : this needs to be sorted tonight, now... if noone here can help i'm going to try installing a differnt distro
[06:46] <nalioth> archive: do what you must, i just point to folks and URLs
[06:46] <nalioth> archive: i'm not a tech hardware guy
[06:46] <spanish> wxy in 'preferred applications' change it there. in the preferences menu
[06:46] <nalioth> ask your question again
[06:46] <archive> so, is there anyone who can help me with my problem?
[06:46] <freddy> adwait, it wont work :(
[06:46] <archive> maybe someone can just tell me how i might install the relevant modules, and or why they are not loaded?
[06:47] <wxy> Prefered applications in Control Center?
[06:47] <archive> loading all the relavent snd modules by hand, given that i do not know what they are seems wrong
[06:47] <archive> nlioth: yes, i understand, thanks for your time thought - it was appreciated.
[06:47] <archive> *nalioth
[06:47] <qt2> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/deepimpact/main/index.html?skipIntro=1
[06:49] <spanish> wxy, thats for gnome. i guess u arent
[06:49] <adwait> freddy: wht wont work? the sound?
[06:52] <spanish> i have a prob with fullscreen 3D with fglrx. i have a black border. can anyone help out?
[06:53] <unome> spanish: cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
[06:53] <bryan> hey all, back again for more help... ive "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and setup my screen resolution, but ubuntu still won't display properly.  any ideas?
[06:54] <spanish> unome: i have an ati card
[06:54] <unome> :x sorry
[06:54] <nalioth> bryan: you can't switch resolutions?
[06:54] <unome> I assumed nvidia since most problems are nvidia's
[06:55] <unome> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:55] <bryan> nalioth: not at all.  xorg.conf only shows 1024x768 but thats not even a choice in screen resolution
[06:55] <nalioth> bryan: but during the reconfigure you selected more rez'?
[06:56] <bryan> nalioth: i want 1024 but hoary only shows 800x600...
[06:57] <spanish> unome: i used that howto to install driver originally, ill scour some forums
[07:02] <spanish> does anyone know if qtparted can resize ext3?
[07:04] <zerboxx> when do do "sudo apt-get upgrade" it says that some mozilla-firefox things have been held back, why? do I want to get it anyways? and how?
[07:05] <yao> does anyone know if there is a tool for pl/sql?
[07:05] <adwait> zerboxx: could u paste wht it exactly says to the pastebin
[07:05] <zerboxx> adwait: sorry, pastebin?
[07:05] <adwait> pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:06] <adwait> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:06] <spanish> zerboxx: apt holds back modules that will cause a conflict
[07:06] <thechitowncubs> hey everyone, my sister has been using ubuntu and the only problem she is having is with cd burning... i installed graveman for her and it goes about as slow as my grandma on a 4 wheeler
[07:06] <thechitowncubs> what do you guys recommend
[07:06] <daddius> hey, am i able to install nvidia drivers?
[07:06] <zerboxx> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/395
[07:06] <thechitowncubs> she is using a Pentium 500mhz
[07:06] <zerboxx> adwait: /395
[07:07] <spanish> thechitowncubs: check out gnomebaker
[07:07] <adwait> zerboxx: hmm.....like spanish said, apt-get holds back packages tht cause a conflict, but conflict with wht :S
[07:07] <thechitowncubs> spanish: been there done that
[07:07] <thechitowncubs> same slowness
[07:07] <adwait> zerboxx: maybe ur running firefox and tht could be the reason?
[07:08] <jasmuz> thechitowncubs: gnomebaker
[07:08] <zerboxx> adwait: ah maybe!
[07:08] <thechitowncubs> jasmuz: been there done that, its still slow as all hell
[07:08] <zerboxx> adwait: nope
[07:08] <jasmuz> thechitowncubs: how much ram do you have?
[07:08] <yao> does anyone know if there is a tool for pl/sql?
[07:08] <thechitowncubs> jasmuz: she is runnin on 256mb
[07:08] <spanish> thechitowncubs: get the necessary kde libs and get k3b
[07:09] <zerboxx> adwait: I was using the synaptic thingy before and it looks like it's the 1.04 version of firefox, which I need/want...
[07:09] <adwait> zerboxx: the firefox installed with ubuntu is alreadt 1.0.4, just tht they forgot to increment the version number
[07:10] <zerboxx> adwait: could the upgrade fix that version number?
[07:10] <jasmuz> thechitowncubs: that is odd..
[07:10] <adwait> zerboxx: heres wht u do...go to firefox and type about:config in the address bar
[07:10] <jasmuz> thechitowncubs: cant expect much of a 500 mhz pc...but...
[07:10] <adwait> tht will show u a table of various keys and their values
[07:10] <thechitowncubs> but the problem is it didn't go this slow on windblows
[07:10] <jtan325> how do you change the "system fonts" used? i.e. right now i am trying openbox and its fonts are rather ugly
[07:10] <adwait> zerboxx: now find the key general.useraget.vendorsub.and edit its value to read 1.0.4
[07:11] <jasmuz> humm
[07:11] <dbernar1_> thechitowncubs: tried xfce? sorry if redundant, jsut got home
[07:11] <jasmuz> thechitowncubs: there are a lot of programs that burn cd's
[07:11] <dbernar1_> oh, just slow for burning a cd?
[07:11] <thechitowncubs> jasmuz: shes trying to burn an Audio CD
[07:11] <jasmuz> thechitowncubs: i would recommend her also to use Xfce instead of Gnome
[07:12] <thechitowncubs> She needs something user friendly and intuitive, gnome is fine for that
[07:12] <dbernar1_> ya, xfce for sure, gnome is extremely slow on such a machine, I had one recently.
[07:12] <zerboxx> adwait: thanks! any other changes to about:config I should do (other than those listed in the ubuntuguide)?
[07:12] <dbernar1_> altho xfce has no desktop, but is intuitive, and fairly modern.
[07:12] <adwait> zerboxx: nope....tht will get u started with the extentions for firefox, if thts wht u wanted to do
[07:13] <hondje> one could always run nautilus w/out the --no-desktop
[07:13] <zerboxx> adwait: yup, miss all my extensions since I moved from xp
[07:13] <adwait> zerboxx: right :)
[07:13] <thechitowncubs> her computer isn't extremely slow but it would be helpful if it would convert the audio faster for audio cds
[07:14] <dbernar1_> weird, mine was soooooo slow.
[07:14] <dbernar1_> like, minutes before opening a window.
[07:14] <thechitowncubs> its slow but not completely worthless
[07:14] <thechitowncubs> oh
[07:14] <thechitowncubs> jeez
[07:14] <dbernar1_> ya, like a minute for ff.
[07:14] <dbernar1_> anyhow, good luck:)
[07:14] <thechitowncubs> well ff opens slow ya...
[07:14] <jasmuz> lol
[07:14] <thechitowncubs> i was just wondering if i could see what the problem is
[07:15] <thechitowncubs> its converting like a snail in quicksand
[07:15] <thechitowncubs> lol
[07:15] <thechitowncubs> i'm likin my analogies tonight
[07:15] <siimo> someone with hoary have 5 mins for me?
[07:15] <jasmuz> lol
[07:15] <jasmuz> siimo: sure
[07:15] <stisev> Anyone running KDE here
[07:15] <dbernar1_> nice analogy, agreed.
[07:15] <linuxboy> siimo: go ahead
[07:15] <stisev> (I know about Kubuntu but that channel seems to be dead :( )
[07:16] <ubuntumax> i need help installing boot loader
[07:16] <thechitowncubs> ubuntumax: i can help
[07:16] <thechitowncubs> while i wait for day of defeat to download
[07:16] <guatenais> donde estas
[07:16] <kgrimm> how does ubuntu compare to fedora 4 in performance ?
[07:16] <thechitowncubs> kgrimm: um, thats a bad question
[07:16] <siimo> jasmuz linuxboy, can you check if this affects hoary still http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22524   if your version is up to date
[07:17] <adwait> kgrimm: umm both are good
[07:17] <ubuntumax> i have currently, win98, win2k, and ubuntu (installed in that order).  Linux boots fine, however, windows does not.  When i select Microsoft Windows from grub screen it hangs after the chainloader +1 line and I can't boot it anymore.  I can workaround it by using fixboot and fixmbr, but then I lose my linux choice
[07:17] <adwait> kgrimm: if ur looking for lots of apps to come directly pre installed FC4.....if u like to install only rhe oens u need, ubuntu
[07:17] <jtan325> does anyone know how to install a new font?
[07:17] <hondje> !fonts
[07:17] <ubotu> hondje: Wish i knew
[07:17] <thechitowncubs> kgrimm: ubuntu is more of a complete project imo, ubuntu just fits well for a broad range of users
[07:17] <Amuro> hai
[07:17] <hondje> I wish you did too, ubotu
[07:18] <Amuro> if anyone remembers me lol
[07:18] <thechitowncubs> good community, better package mangement
[07:18] <linuxboy> siimo: nope. I can,t see the fonts at 25%
[07:18] <Trace> hello, I am very instrested in hareware detection of ubuntu, Can anyone give me some advices?
[07:18] <siimo> linuxboy, nevermind i found the bug its fixed in breezy
[07:18] <siimo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22524
[07:19] <jasmuz> siimo: havent seen that
[07:19] <linuxboy> siimo: may be its for that font, but by default it works fine for me
[07:19] <jasmuz> siimo: dont go into breezy
[07:19] <kgrimm> will the live/install dvd be worth the bother? need a decent unix for a laptop,, it keeps overheating on gentoo compiles
[07:19] <siimo> linuxboy, if you read carefully if you make zoom to 75% fonts become smaller but in warty they didnt they stayed the same size
[07:19] <thechitowncubs> ubuntumax: did you modify your grub.conf and change the partition windows is on?
[07:20] <jtan325> does anyone know how to "install a font"?
[07:20] <zerboxx> Umm when I watch videos on totem, the audio and video seem to not be in sync, any idea what the problem is??
[07:20] <thechitowncubs> you can tell by taking a look at your partition table through something like gparted
[07:20] <thechitowncubs> or a terminal command that i don't know
[07:20] <adwait> ubuntumax: is windows on the master driver?
[07:20] <adwait> *drive
[07:21] <ubuntumax> thechitowncubs:  no
[07:21] <ubuntumax> just clean installs on all
[07:21] <thechitowncubs> ubuntumax: did you use ubuntuguide.org to add your microsoft windows choice?
[07:21] <Amuro> whats the update command
[07:22] <Amuro> for pacakges again
[07:22] <Amuro> ?
[07:22] <ubuntumax> i installed everything default
[07:22] <thechitowncubs> sudo apt-get update
[07:22] <thechitowncubs> sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:22] <Amuro> thnx
[07:22] <thechitowncubs> or sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:22] <ubuntumax> grub boot loader will let me list my windows drive, but when it goes toboot it, it hangs
[07:22] <hondje> or sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --assume-yes dist-upgrade
[07:22] <thechitowncubs> ubuntumax: i know that
[07:22] <stisev> omfg
[07:22] <ubuntumax> i am currently on the win98 install
[07:23] <Amuro> ok now another question
[07:23] <Amuro> umm
[07:23] <stisev> that control alt esc killed konversation
[07:23] <ubuntumax> can't get into ubuntu unless i reinstall grub again
[07:23] <adwait> ubuntumax: is windows on the primary master drive?
[07:23] <thechitowncubs> ubuntumax: did you install ubuntu after you installed all of those windblows os's?
[07:23] <Amuro> how do i make it so when i turn pc on it doesnt give me 5 seconds to choose which os to load
[07:23] <Amuro> ?
[07:23] <ubuntumax> yes, all are on 1 drive
[07:23] <ubuntumax> yes i did ubuntu last
[07:24] <lcarlos-away> how can i convert a CD to mp3???
[07:24] <ubuntumax> ive tried reinstalling ubuntu several times....also tried update-grub
[07:24] <adwait> ubuntumax: when windows hangs......does it say something like rootnoverify or only root?
[07:24] <ubuntumax> rootnoverify
[07:24] <ubuntumax> yes
[07:24] <ubuntumax> hda 0,3
[07:24] <kgrimm> anyone using ubuntu on thinkpad?
[07:24] <ccc> lcarlos-away: use for instance goobox
[07:25] <thechitowncubs> kgrimm, no but whats the probmel
[07:25] <adwait> righy
[07:25] <lcarlos-away> ccc thanks!!!
[07:25] <zerboxx> Can anyone help me setup my Tungsten|E?
[07:25] <thechitowncubs> lcarlos-away: or soundjuicer which is installed by default
[07:25] <kgrimm> none that i know of, am wondering if it works ok?
[07:26] <ubuntumax> adwait: ?
[07:26] <adwait> ubuntumax: nevermind....
[07:26] <Amuro> whats the command to install a package thats tar.gz ec. xine
[07:26] <Amuro> eg. xine*
[07:26] <adwait> ubuntumax: not much idea abt ur problem :)
[07:26] <ubuntumax> ;)
[07:26] <ubuntumax> ill do some more reading
[07:26] <ubuntumax> ttyl
[07:26] <Amuro> ya
[07:26] <Amuro> reinstall windows
[07:26] <adwait> zerboxx: i dunno wht tht is.......but whts the problem
[07:27] <adwait> ttyla
[07:27] <adwait> *ttyl
[07:27] <Amuro> whats the command to install a package thats tar.gz ec. xine
[07:27] <Amuro> err sorry
[07:27] <thechitowncubs> Amuro: xine isn't in tar.gz
[07:27] <Amuro> it is when i dled it
[07:27] <Amuro> lol
[07:27] <thechitowncubs> sudo apt-get install xine xine-gui i think
[07:27] <thechitowncubs> don't quote me on that
[07:27] <Amuro> what about other programs i want to install
[07:27] <zerboxx> adwait: palm, can't get it to recognize computer, or viceversa
[07:27] <Amuro> like cedega,(bought and paid for)
[07:27] <stisev> Anyone here use Wine?
[07:27] <Amuro> duno how to install that
[07:28] <lcarlos-away> ccc but in goobox i can't convert a CD to mp3  how can i do ir
[07:28] <stisev> I'm trying to install "Admuncher" in wine.  It seems like it did something. but where would it install the program?
[07:29] <Amuro> oi another thing i need drivers for ATI Radeon 9600XT
[07:29] <Amuro> for linux any idea where to get them?
[07:30] <zerboxx> adwait: I may have just figured the palm problem out, but I still have an audio/video sync problem (nothing to do with palm)
[07:31] <Amuro> well?
[07:32] <IceDC571> why is it so hard for linux developers to make gapless audio playback?
[07:32] <jtan325> hate to sound like a broken record, but does anyone know how to change the "system font" that's used?
[07:32] <Amuro> IceDC571,
[07:32] <Amuro> i know what u mean i cant play video
[07:32] <Amuro> audo lags
[07:32] <Amuro> audio*
[07:32] <Amuro> and the video splits up ;\
[07:33] <IceDC571> heh.. i guess im not alone
[07:33] <IceDC571> i hate noticing things that other people could care less about
[07:33] <IceDC571> jtan325: are you on gnome or kde?
[07:33] <jtan325> IceDC571, gnome
[07:33] <jtan325> IceDC571, but really, trying to get this working for openbox
[07:33] <Amuro> which graph are u in when theres a foot print
[07:33] <Amuro> next to Applications
[07:33] <Amuro> ?
[07:34] <IceDC571> jtan325: goto System > Preferences > Font
[07:35] <jtan325> IceDC571, thank you
[07:35] <jtan325> IceDC571, will this "carry over" if i use open box?
[07:35] <jtan325> i get the impression that open box somehow runs on gnome..... or something (*so confused*)
[07:36] <IceDC571> jtan325: i dont have experience with open box.. sorry
[07:36] <IceDC571> !info openbox
[07:36] <ubotu> openbox: (standards compliant, fast, light-weight, extensible window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 3.2-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 192 kB, Installed size: 916 kB
[07:36] <jtan325> ubotu, so the changes would carry over?
[07:36] <ubotu> jtan325: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[07:36] <tigliona1bit> hey guys, what repository is the w32codecs package in?
[07:37] <IceDC571> i dont know, is openbox based on gtk?
[07:37] <tigliona1bit> !ubotu w3codecs
[07:37] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, tigliona1bit
[07:37] <tigliona1bit> !w32codecs
[07:37] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats or http://ubuntuguide.org
[07:37] <pallav> where can i find w32codec package??
[07:37] <pallav> he he he
[07:37] <pallav> hi tiglionalbit
[07:37] <IceDC571> www.ubuntuforums.org is a nice place to look over for all you newbs
[07:37] <IceDC571> ive setup my whole system just by reading howtos there
[07:38] <dbernar1_> jtan325: in case you dont know, ubotu is a program.
[07:38] <IceDC571> a robot too
[07:38] <jtan325> dbernar1_, yeah, i embarrasingly learned that
[07:38] <dbernar1_> how a robot, read the definition:P
[07:38] <dbernar1_> then your IRC is a robot too.
[07:39] <dbernar1_> a robot moves, ubotu dont.
[07:39] <Amaranth> !ubotu
[07:39] <ubotu> Amaranth: No idea
[07:39] <Amaranth> hmm
[07:39] <dbernar1_> he should know what he is.
[07:39] <IceDC571> omg.. windowmaker.. the wm ive been searching for for my whole life!
[07:39] <Amaranth> !owner
[07:39] <ubotu> Amaranth: I haven't a clue
[07:39] <jtan325> if i just downloaded a font, where would i place it so gnome/X could recognize it?
[07:39] <IceDC571> i have to install it.. i must
[07:39] <jasmuz> ! info w32codecs
[07:39] <ubotu> jasmuz: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:39] <IceDC571> its "!info"
[07:39] <IceDC571> no spaces
[07:39] <dbernar1_> no spaces
[07:39] <Xira> all the sound in my applications work. but not in the ubuntu system, none of the system sounds / startup sounds work. and i alsamixer doesnt have my card either
[07:39] <dbernar1_> ya
[07:39] <Xira> can anyone help?
[07:40] <jasmuz> ;)
[07:40] <jasmuz> !info w32codecs
[07:40] <ilba7r> hi i am a newbie who want to set up a lan i basically have two pcs and a wireless router any help to a site that introduces the setup is appreciated
[07:40] <pallav> i m trying to install the w32codec
[07:40] <Amaranth> IceDC571: You're a NeXT fan?
[07:40] <pallav> and it comes up with this message saying that "Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:40] <pallav> "
[07:40] <dbernar1_> ilba7r: well...are both your computers online?
[07:40] <ilba7r> i now can ping the one pc from the other but has problems with ssh
[07:41] <ilba7r> dernarl_ yes
[07:41] <dbernar1_> ilba7r: and what are you doing now? setting it up so the computers can talk to each other without the Internet?
[07:41] <jasmuz> pallav: you need to add the backports in order to have them
[07:41] <liz4rd> when i try open alot of programs
[07:41] <liz4rd> i get this error:  error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:41] <liz4rd> i ge thtta error
[07:41] <liz4rd> synaptic says i have them
[07:41] <liz4rd> how do i fix this
[07:42] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ basically i want to configure file sharing and printer sharing so if i do it over the net or directly is not a problem
[07:42] <Jesse1> liz4rd, reload them
[07:42] <liz4rd> texplain?
[07:42] <liz4rd> i installed them
[07:42] <Xira> all the sound in my applications work. but not in the ubuntu system, none of the system sounds / startup sounds work. and i alsamixer doesnt have my card either - can anyone help me with this problem?
[07:42] <liz4rd> fresh
[07:42] <liz4rd> and still
[07:42] <dbernar1_> ilba7r: one NIC in each computer?
[07:43] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ what is a NIC as i said i am a newbie
[07:43] <Amaranth> Xira: System->Preferences->Multimedia Systems Selector
[07:43] <IceDC571> if wmaker released a new version today how long do you think it would take debian to put it in their repository?
[07:43] <Amaranth> Xira: Change the input and output sinks to either esd or oss
[07:43] <dbernar1_> ilba7r: a network interface card, what you plug the ethernet cord into on the computer.
[07:43] <Amaranth> Xira: oss would probably be better
[07:43] <dbernar1_> IceDC571: stable, unstable, or testing?
[07:43] <dbernar1_> :P
[07:43] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ yap i hocked up one through eth0 the other is wirless and i installed nidswrapper
[07:43] <dbernar1_> #debian
[07:44] <pallav> dpme\11
[07:44] <pallav> done!!
[07:44] <Xira> still not seen in alsamixer
[07:44] <liz4rd> i get this error:  error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:44] <pallav> thanks guys
[07:44] <liz4rd> i have them
[07:44] <IceDC571> dbernar1_: unstable
[07:44] <liz4rd> how do i fix this?
[07:44] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ basically both can access the net through a main router i have at home
[07:44] <dbernar1_> wirelessly, or wired?
[07:44] <dbernar1_> now, I mean, does wireless work?
[07:44] <Amaranth> IceDC571: If it was a major version release it would take quite awhile I suppose.
[07:44] <Xira> Amaranth, no avail
[07:45] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ my notebook uses a wirless connection my main pc uses a wired one
[07:45] <Amaranth> IceDC571: If it was a minor release with few changes needed to the packaging it could take as little as a week or two.
[07:45] <Amaranth> Xira: oss isn't an option?
[07:45] <Xira> it is
[07:45] <dbernar1_> ok, and on the main pc, there is only one NIC, one plug for the ethernet?
[07:45] <Xira> but it doesnt make my soundcard detected in alsamixer
[07:45] <Amaranth> it won't...
[07:45] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ yap
[07:45] <Xira> heh
[07:45] <Amaranth> alsamixer is alsa, you're using oss now
[07:46] <Xira> sigh
[07:46] <Amaranth> GNOME sounds ('ubuntu sounds') use gstreamer, you've just told gstreamer to use oss
[07:46] <IceDC571> Amaranth: alright, thanks
[07:46] <IceDC571> ill be back
[07:46] <dbernar1_> ilba7r: wait now, I will find a link, since I dont know how to set up separate IPs for the same NIC.
[07:47] <Xira> the GUI sound control works
[07:47] <dbernar1_> Does anyone know how to set up multiple IPs on one NIC?
[07:47] <jdub> Amaranth: (gnome alert sounds use esd directly)
[07:47] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ ok thanks for your help
[07:47] <dbernar1_> welcome
[07:47] <Xira> Intel 82801DB-ICH4 (Alsa Mixer)
[07:47] <Amaranth> jdub: Err, I thought that changed/was changing.
[07:47] <Xira> is what my gnome sound GUI is
[07:47] <Xira> and it works
[07:47] <jdub> Amaranth: nup
[07:47] <jdub> not thus far, anyway
[07:48] <Amaranth> Xira: Not sure what to say then.
[07:48] <ben0ne> dbernar1_, ifconfig eth0:x ip
[07:48] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ by the way my router already gave the home pc a local ip and my notebook another local ip
[07:48] <Amaranth> Xira: I have those sounds randomly work and stop working, seemingly with each new gstreamer version.
[07:48] <Amaranth> Xira: But since jdub says those aren't gstreamer I'm lost.
[07:48] <dbernar1_> ilba7r: ya, they have the local IPs, hmm..then maybe we just need to set up the router.
[07:49] <dbernar1_> check this out, do you have a GUI ftp client, like gftp?
[07:49] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ as i said also i can ping my notebook from my home pc and vise versa so they can see each other do not know why though i can not use ssh
[07:50] <dbernar1_> ah, so do you have the servers installes?
[07:50] <dbernar1_> d
[07:50] <Amaranth> ilba7r: One of them has an ssh server installed and the other has an ssh client?
[07:50] <Amaranth> ilba7r: Also, I think the server defaults to local connections only.
[07:50] <dbernar1_> it could be the router blocking ports, I think...
[07:50] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ do not know what is servers installes
[07:51] <dbernar1_> is an ssh server installed on one of the computers?
[07:51] <ilba7r> amaranth do you know how can i reset it
[07:51] <guatenais> jazmus where are you
[07:51] <dbernar1_> dber<tab>
[07:51] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ it is installed on both
[07:51] <tigliona1bit> yo, how do I check the speed at which I'm connected to the internet?
[07:51] <dbernar1_> ok, do you know if your router has port 22 open?
[07:51] <tigliona1bit> what's some good benchmarking for it
[07:51] <ilba7r> amaranth i think you are right i can ssh to local address only
[07:52] <dbernar1_> tiglionabit, you upload a file to your ISPs online storage space using ftp.
[07:52] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ will check it out
[07:52] <Amaranth> ilba7r: It involves editting config files with a text editor. I don't know what files or what to change.
[07:53] <guatenais> somebody can help me
[07:53] <dbernar1_> agreed.
[07:54] <votu> k
[07:54] <tigliona1bit> dbernar1_: is there any way a little more convenient than that?
[07:54] <guatenais> somebody can help me
[07:54] <tigliona1bit> guatenais: I'm sure they can
[07:55] <WildTangent> guatenais: what you need?
[07:55] <dbernar1_> no clue, what was the issue, I lost the text. tigliona1bit
[07:55] <guatenais> i need install skype
[07:55] <WildTangent> apt-get install skype isnt it?
[07:55] <SlicerDicer-> what does uucp group do in ubuntu I cant seem to find any reasonable use for it
[07:55] <WildTangent> hold on, time to get out the guide
[07:55] <dbernar1_> no, I think you get it from their site
[07:55] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ i just enabled it
[07:55] <guatenais> ok
[07:55] <tigliona1bit> dbernar1_: testing connection speed
[07:55] <ilba7r> amaranth thank you for your help my friend
[07:55] <thechitowncubs> wildtangent: no
[07:55] <dbernar1_> tigliona1bit: that is most correct.
[07:55] <thechitowncubs> its propreitary
[07:56] <dbernar1_> you are not connected to the Internet, tho, you are connected to your ISP, your ISP is connected to the internet.
[07:56] <dbernar1_> connection speeds to various Internet sites will vary
[07:56] <unome> connection speed test? try ping hehe :)
[07:56] <WildTangent> http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype
[07:56] <tigliona1bit> dbernar1_: so what, just get a large file and pull out a stopwatch?
[07:56] <stisev> ok
[07:56] <stisev> back on windows now
[07:56] <WildTangent> hmm wonder if he got that...
[07:56] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ openning port 22 did not work
[07:56] <stisev> kind of weird without Konversation's tabs. hehe
[07:57] <dbernar1_> tigliona1bit: that way you will test your bandwidth on the network, your ftp client should report the speed.
[07:57] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ i installed though gftp
[07:57] <dbernar1_> unome: connection speed/delay is dependent on several factors. Ping measures the transmission delay.
[07:58] <dbernar1_> can you test connection to the other computer, and see what speed you get, if very high, then it is working on the local network, if slow, then you are going over the internet.
[07:58] <dbernar1_> ilba7r: ^
[07:58] <thechitowncubs> why doesn't linksys support Linux at all?
[07:59] <thechitowncubs> even though they use it on their routers
[07:59] <SlicerDicer-> what does uucp group do in ubuntu I cant seem to find any reasonable use for it
[07:59] <HrdwrBoB> there is no reasonable use for uucp
[07:59] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ i am trying to connect through gftp but the connection is taking too long
[08:00] <dbernar1_> so no connection to the other computer?
[08:00] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ how can i test the connection to the other pc the ping test say the delay is some milli sec
[08:00] <adwait> hello ppl
[08:00] <dbernar1_> is it 0.something ms, or 34 ms for example?
[08:00] <adwait> zerboxx: sorry i had phonecall............u solved ur problems with the sound?
[08:01] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ do i have to install gftp on both pcs
[08:01] <pengo> what's with the date format "Mar 24 05:49 2005" (time in the middle of a date) and why do programs like "ar" use it?
[08:01] <dbernar1_> ilba7r: no, but an FTP server on the computer you are trying to connect to would help.
[08:02] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ it av 1.5 ms
[08:02] <vinicius-br> hello
[08:02] <ilba7r> and i have broad band so already have hi connection speed
[08:02] <dbernar1_> ok, that is the local network, that is good. Now, tell me what you are tryuing to achieve again.
[08:02] <vinicius-br> i am problem in bootsplash
[08:02] <bryan> anyone have any experience with netzero and ubuntu?
[08:02] <vinicius-br> i am installed bootsplash, restart my ubuntu... full black
[08:02] <vinicius-br> help-me
[08:03] <Amaranth> bryan: I know you're going to have a hard time, if you even get it working at all
[08:03] <bryan> amaranth: whys that?
[08:03] <Amaranth> bryan: Anything that isn't standard dialup has little to no support on linux systems
[08:03] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ ok i am now trying to connect from my notebook to my home pc i am using gftp i put in the address user name and passwd it has tried now to connect four times but failed
[08:04] <gm78> Hey all. Does anyone here play Unreal Tournament 2004?
[08:04] <Amaranth> ilba7r: You need to install an ftp server on the home machine
[08:04] <bryan> amaranth: even with the linux package from netzero?
[08:04] <dbernar1_> ilba7r: home pc has a ftp server installed?
[08:04] <Amaranth> they have a linux version?
[08:04] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ will install it now
[08:04] <SQFreak> When I try to unmount my NTFS filesystem that Ubuntu mounts automatically, the system locks up completely. It's basically made it so I can't shut down the system cleanly. Any suggestions? I think there's a corrupted part of the MFT that Windows keeps detecting but won't fix.
[08:04] <Amaranth> bryan: well, if that works awesome, otherwise i doubt anyone here uses it
[08:05] <bryan> amaranth: thanks anyway!  :-)
[08:05] <dbernar1_> ilba7r: proftpd if you want
[08:05] <SlicerDicer-> what does uucp group do in ubuntu I cant seem to find any reasonable use for it
[08:06] <gm78> Amaranth, yeah, they have linux and mac versions
[08:06] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ what is proftpd?
[08:06] <James_Ward> Does anyone know the aptitude command line to upgrade for woody to ubuntu?
[08:06] <pepsix> anyone using lirc?
[08:06] <SlicerDicer-> pepsix yep
[08:06] <ilba7r> do i have to open port 22 in my firewall too i use firestarter?
[08:06] <crimsun> James_Ward, have you adjusted /etc/apt/sources.list?
[08:06] <zerboxx> adwait: no, when watching a video, the sync is off, no idea how to fix it
[08:07] <gm78> My friend was going to lend me the dvd, does anyone know if the linux version of unreal tournament 2004 is included on the dvd?
[08:07] <James_Ward> crimsun, I will in a minute...
[08:07] <SlicerDicer-> omg....
[08:07] <pepsix> SlicerDicer-, what are you using for an IR receiver? built into a video capture card?
[08:07] <dbernar1_> ilba7r: proftpd is the ftp server. FTP uses port 21, SSH 22, HTTP 80, and some other ones.
[08:08] <SlicerDicer-> pepsix, yep hauppauge ir receiver
[08:08] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ so do i need to install proftpd
[08:08] <dbernar1_> ya, or another ftp server on the computer you want to get the files from using gftp
[08:09] <dbernar1_> so a server is the computer you connect to, client the one you connect from
[08:09] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ i installed gftp on both and i reset the port to 22
[08:09] <pepsix> SlicerDicer-, did you have to do anything special to get it to work? mode2 says /dev/lirc doesnt exist, which is untrue
[08:09] <James_Ward> crimsun, I am at the point where it's going to install the base system.  If I overwrite debootstrap with the one from ubuntu with the ubunt CD loaded, will it do the right thing?
[08:09] <dbernar1_> the server computer needs to have an FTP server program installed in order to connect to it using an ftp client program, such as gftp
[08:09] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ ok i understand now
[08:10] <dbernar1_> good, that was my intent:)
[08:10] <crimsun> James_Ward, sure.
[08:10] <James_Ward> crimsun, I'll give that a go.
[08:11] <dbernar1_> you do that:P
[08:11] <pepsix> SlicerDicer-, i have a hauppague wintv radio card, but i guess its really a winfast tv2000 xp
[08:11] <James_Ward> crimsun, Oh wait, it won't call it right will it?
[08:12] <crimsun> James_Ward, why mess with that? Just dist-upgrade from Woody.
[08:12] <James_Ward> crimsun, Last time I tried that, I had no PCMCIA when I rebooted.
[08:12] <gm78> James_Ward, ill give u a warning, download the ubuntu iso and be prepared to reinstall
[08:13] <pepsix> hrm.. perhaps if i install lirc-modules-source
[08:13] <James_Ward> I have the ubuntu CD in the drive.
[08:13] <nuggien> how do I get a script in /etc/init.d/ to be run at boot time?
[08:13] <nuggien> like cpufreqd
[08:13] <gm78> James_Ward, oh, lol, i should pay more attention then
[08:13] <James_Ward> :-)
[08:13] <crimsun> James_Ward, what prevents you from booting from the CD?
[08:13] <ilba7r> dbernarl_ does proftpd needs configuration i know i took a lot of your time so perhaps a link to a site where i can learn is more helpfull
[08:13] <James_Ward> Old hardware.
[08:14] <hiya> hello im having a problem i have no idea on how the whole linux thing works anyway when i try to intstall ubuntu i get a error message that says try burning iso at a slower speed so i did no help
[08:14] <gm78> James_Ward, you should be able to enable booting from a cd in the bios
[08:14] <gm78> James_Ward, i have a pentium mmx computer that can boot from a cd
[08:14] <James_Ward> Mine can't.
[08:14] <James_Ward> SCSI CD.
[08:15] <crimsun> James_Ward, so what prevents you from using something like http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ ?
[08:15] <James_Ward> crimsun ubuntu initrd is too big for 32M RAM.
[08:16] <crimsun> for netboot?
[08:16] <James_Ward> I believe so.
[08:16] <hiya> anyonw ?
[08:16] <hiya> anyone ?
[08:16] <ilba7r> hiya can you explain in more detail
[08:16] <hiya> ok
[08:16] <hiya> lets see
[08:17] <hiya> it gets to around 50% in installing the base system then i get tons of errors
[08:17] <crimsun> James_Ward, I'd try the netboot option if you haven't already.
[08:17] <ilba7r> from the cd you burnt right
[08:17] <James_Ward> crimsun, I just untar that and boot from it?
[08:17] <hiya> i burned 3 cd's already
[08:17] <IceDC571> ahh.. i love windowmaker.. its so fast
[08:17] <James_Ward> crimsun I would love to.
[08:18] <ilba7r> hiya have you checked the hardware compatability
[08:18] <crimsun> James_Ward, not exactly. You can find standard netboot instructions for Debian on the Web; they're nearly drop-in for Ubuntu.
[08:18] <hiya> lets see its a celeron 64mb ram
[08:18] <James_Ward> crimsun, Okay, I'll try it.
[08:18] <crimsun> great.
[08:18] <hiya> 4 gig hd agp card
[08:19] <hiya> i mean it seems like the stuff is new enough right ?
[08:20] <ilba7r> i am trying to check the hardware compatability for you
[08:20] <ilba7r> especially the ram
[08:20] <hiya> i didnt see a compatbility page
[08:21] <transgress> hey what happened to the ubuntu wikis?
[08:21] <hiya> ill see if i can get the errors again
[08:22] <hiya> i burned the iso at 8x
[08:22] <tseedmund> Does anyone use a thinkpad?
[08:22] <hiya> dont see a problem there
[08:23] <James_Ward> crimsun, I have already copied vmlinux and initrd.gz to hard drive partitions and booted those.  Will this netboot require less RAM?
[08:24] <ilba7r> ok
[08:24] <crimsun> James_Ward, are you using the versions in that directory?
[08:24] <crimsun> the netboot directory, that is
[08:24] <James_Ward> No, got them off the install CD methinks.
[08:24] <freddy> does anybody know why im getting an error when trying to load alsamixer? :(
[08:25] <freddy> im about to bail
[08:25] <James_Ward> crimsun, These are smaller?
[08:25] <crimsun> James_Ward, try the netboot-specific versions
[08:25] <ilba7r> hia https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport this is the link to the supported hardware
[08:25] <crimsun> freddy, what sound chipset?
[08:25] <James_Ward> crimsun, K.
[08:25] <freddy> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[08:25] <freddy> intel
[08:25] <freddy> crimsun
[08:25] <crimsun> freddy, what's your audio lspci -v line?
[08:25] <hiya> ok ill look at that thanks ilba7r
[08:26] <hiya> all my hardware seems to be checking out
[08:27] <freddy> crimsun, gonna paste on pastebin
[08:27] <ilba7r> hiya then try another mirror to download ubuntu perhaps there was an error in the download
[08:27] <hiya> ok ill try that now
[08:27] <freddy> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/398
[08:28] <James_Ward> crimsun, That IS a smaller ramdisk...
[08:28] <crimsun> James_Ward, :)
[08:28] <James_Ward> :-)
[08:29] <crimsun> freddy, that's because your sound hardware isn't supported by the default alsa drivers in ubuntu; they're too old. You need the version in alsa-source from universe.
[08:30] <hiya> downloading now be back in a few
[08:30] <crimsun> freddy, it's really quite simple. Just install build-essential, linux-headers-$(uname -r), and alsa-source.
[08:30] <freddy> crimsun, my card is too old?
[08:30] <crimsun> freddy, no, the drivers are too old.
[08:31] <freddy> oh sorry
[08:31] <freddy> omg crimsun i hope this works
[08:31] <crimsun> it does. I've been through this procedure with a few dozen people already.
[08:31] <freddy> lol ok
[08:31] <freddy> gonna try those 3 steps
[08:31] <crimsun> well, that's just the first portion.
[08:32] <freddy> oh ok
[08:32] <crimsun> I'm walking you through it.
[08:32] <freddy> lemme install that
[08:33] <freddy> crimsun, im on the second ill let you know when im done
[08:33] <freddy> thanks a lot man
[08:34] <crimsun> yw
[08:34] <freddy> and btw i found a trick in the ubuntu site to make the fonts look crispy in gnome and now it looks awesome man
[08:34] <freddy> i really love this
[08:34] <_linuxAS_> morning
[08:34] <IceDC571> morning :)
[08:35] <IceDC571> would anyone consider firefox to be a bloated browser?
[08:36] <crimsun> bloated? well, it certainly could be optimised further, but it's less bloated than mozilla
[08:36] <kgrimm> compared towhat ? IE?
[08:36] <IceDC571> no.. like native gnone browsers, epiphany i guess
[08:36] <IceDC571> i guess im just using too much old pcs lately
[08:37] <IceDC571> i miss my amd64
[08:37] <TokenBad> whats a good video player for ubuntu besides totem
[08:37] <James_Ward> crimsun Oooo, exploded badly.
[08:38] <IceDC571> TokenBad: theres the kde side of apps, kaffiene (sp)
[08:38] <freddy> crimsun, ok done the 3 steps
[08:38] <freddy> what should i do next?
[08:39] <crimsun> freddy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source, choose "no" for Plug n' Play, "yes" for debug, and the azx driver
[08:40] <freddy> build ALSA with ISA PnP support?
[08:40] <crimsun> (see above)
[08:41] <freddy> ah
[08:41] <freddy> PnP plug n play
[08:41] <freddy> lol
[08:41] <freddy> ok
[08:41] <freddy> sorry
[08:41] <crimsun> np
[08:41] <crimsun> James_Ward, where?
[08:41] <James_Ward> crimsun, Do you know the fancy aptitude command for upgrading from woody?
[08:41] <James_Ward> crimsun, It ran out of memory and kernel paniced.
[08:41] <ilba7r> hia are you still here
[08:42] <crimsun> James_Ward, all you need to do is change /etc/apt/sources.list once the base system is installed, then update && dist-upgrade
[08:42] <James_Ward> crimsun, I did that before and had no PCMCIA afterwards.
[08:42] <crimsun> James_Ward, was the pcmcia-cs package installed?
[08:42] <freddy> crimsun, ok..i did the azx driver....hit enter..and the blue window closed and throw me on command line again...
[08:42] <James_Ward> crimsun, I did the update over pcmcia.
[08:43] <James_Ward> crimsun, When I rebooted, it said no pcmcia present.
[08:43] <crimsun> James_Ward, but was it removed for some reason via the dist-upgrade?
[08:43] <James_Ward> crimsun I am not sure.
[08:43] <konki> how do i install LIMEWIRE... problem--->   konki@MOMO2:~$ /home/konki/Desktop/LimeWireLinux.rpm
[08:43] <konki> bash: /home/konki/Desktop/LimeWireLinux.rpm: Permission denied
[08:44] <transgress> get the non rpm
[08:44] <transgress> for one
[08:44] <crimsun> freddy, good. Now: cd /usr/src && sudo tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz2 && cd modules/alsa-driver && sudo debian/rules binary_modules KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) KVERS=$(uname -r)
[08:44] <Amaranth> konki: sudo alien LimeWireLinux.rpm
[08:44] <freddy> damn
[08:44] <James_Ward> crimsun, I'll install woody again.
[08:44] <freddy> ok lemme try to understand.
[08:44] <Amaranth> konki: then sudo dpkg -i <created deb name>.deb
[08:44] <crimsun> freddy, you can just copy n' paste that command (everything following Now:)
[08:44] <transgress> i'd still suggest the nonrpm
[08:44] <konki> transgress, where can i get it???
[08:44] <Amaranth> transgress: If by non-rpm you mean deb, of course.
[08:44] <transgress> well the limewire page normally has it
[08:45] <transgress> Amaranth: i meant .tar.gz
[08:45] <freddy> crimsun, and change the $ for my version right?
[08:45] <Amaranth> transgress: Otherwise converting an rpm to a deb is better than installing a .tar.gz, since it has no package management (can't be easily removed)
[08:45] <konki> Amaranth, what does that mean??
[08:45] <Amaranth> konki: Run those commands.
[08:46] <crimsun> freddy, nope, just copy and paste that exactly
[08:46] <transgress> Amaranth: well for one there is checkinstall... and also alien can mess up... not to mention the .tar.gz is not meant to be installed... just run in place.
[08:46] <konki> Amaranth, run them on the terminal??
[08:46] <Amaranth> konki: Yeah.
[08:46] <freddy> crimsun, ok a hell lot of stuff going on
[08:46] <James_Ward> crimsun, Maybe the new mod-dep made the old kernel forget how to find pcmcia?
[08:47] <Amaranth> transgress: checkinstall makes me cry and if alien messes up you can still uninstall the package
[08:47] <crimsun> James_Ward, hmm,  but module-init-tools should have been installed as part of the dist-upgrade.
[08:47] <IceDC571> lol Amaranth
[08:47] <konki> Amaranth, konki@MOMO2:~$ konki: sudo alien LimeWireLinux.rpm
[08:47] <konki> bash: konki:: command not found
[08:47] <konki> konki@MOMO2:~$  konki: then sudo dpkg -i <created deb name>.deb
[08:47] <konki> bash: created: No such file or directory
[08:48] <konki> thats what happened...
[08:48] <kgrimm> anyone have the live/install where i can get to it? bittorrent says 4 days to download
[08:48] <freddy> do you guys know of anyone with a tv card working under ubuntu?
[08:48] <Amaranth> konki: Don't literally run the second one. For the first one you need to install the lsb packages.
[08:48] <WildTangent> /quit <(^_^<) <( ^_^ )> (>^_^)>
[08:48] <WildTangent> THE KIRBY DANCE!
[08:48] <WildTangent> grr
[08:48] <James_Ward> crimsun, Do they require 2.6 kernel?  Cause it booted 2.2
[08:48] <transgress> Amaranth: how does it make you cry?
[08:48] <Amaranth> 2.2? wtf
[08:48] <kgrimm> live/install dvd,, that is
[08:48] <crimsun> James_Ward, module-init-tools is for 2.6, yes. modutils for 2.0-2.4
[08:48] <Amaranth> James_Ward: Are you trying to go from debian potato to ubuntu hoary?
[08:49] <James_Ward> Amaranth, woody
[08:49] <IceDC571> isnt woody for debian? hmm?
[08:49] <James_Ward> crimsun Okay, then it didn't install or make itseklf boot from the right kernel.
[08:49] <Amaranth> transgress: It's not a real package.
[08:50] <pengo> how do i... install another "locale".. like japanese or german? (so it will appear in locale -a)
[08:50] <crimsun> freddy, yep, it's supposed to spew like that.
[08:50] <konki> Amaranth, i got the lsb packages installed...
[08:50] <Amaranth> pengo: I think it's language-pack-<lang>
[08:50] <pengo> thanks Amaranth
[08:50] <freddy> its still doing stuff
[08:50] <Amaranth> konki: Then your system has issues...
[08:50] <freddy> crimsun, and it finished
[08:50] <pengo> hey Amaranth from tasmania?
[08:50] <j2dope> my nautilus cd burner isn't working quite right. whats another reliable GUI alternative for ubuntu?
[08:51] <IceDC571> j2dope: have you tried gnomebaker?
[08:51] <Amaranth> j2dope: k3b and gnomebaker
[08:51] <TokenBad> kaffeine don't work
[08:51] <TokenBad> is there another
[08:51] <James_Ward> Amaranth, To bring you up to date, I dist-upgraded woody and it booted the woody kernel instead of ubuntu and therefore had no pcmcia.
[08:51] <j2dope> thanks
[08:51] <crimsun> freddy, now: sudo dpkg -i ../*.deb
[08:51] <j2dope> can i get k3b even tho ubuntu is gnome?
[08:51] <crimsun> j2dope, sure
[08:52] <konki> well, Amaranth, is there any other way in order to install limewire...
[08:52] <James_Ward> Amaranth, I'm in the process of reinstalling woody.
[08:53] <Amaranth> James_Ward: You can't use lilo or grub to tell it to boot the 2.6 kernel?
[08:53] <freddy> crimsun, ok thats done, and i have a message on the middle of my desktop that says Volume Control has quit unexpectedly. Dont Reload / Reload
[08:53] <konki> Amaranth, this came up right now...
[08:53] <James_Ward> Amaranth, I'm not sure it even installed the 2.6 kernel.
[08:53] <crimsun> freddy, reload
[08:53] <konki> sudo alien LimeWireLinux.rpm
[08:53] <konki> konki@MOMO2:~$ sudo alien LimeWireLinux.rpm
[08:53] <konki> Password:
[08:53] <konki> File "LimeWireLinux.rpm" not found.
[08:53] <freddy> ok done crimsun
[08:53] <crimsun> freddy, cat /proc/asound/modules
[08:54] <freddy> crimsun, nadda
[08:54] <crimsun> freddy, ok, then reboot
[08:54] <freddy> ok...should i spect any sounds when rebooting?
[08:54] <Amaranth> konki: Ok, you need to give it the full path to where the LimeWireLinux.rpm file is
[08:54] <James_Ward> Amaranth, I have a tar file with ubuntu debootstrap and the ubuntu CD in the drive.
[08:54] <crimsun> freddy, only after it finishes
[08:54] <Amaranth> James_Ward: Heh, I've never tried it.
[08:55] <freddy> ok crimsun brb...i hope i get a sound
[08:55] <freddy> hehe
[08:55] <freddy> brb
[08:55] <Amaranth> James_Ward: Too much work to backup and format?
[08:55] <konki> Amaranth, i downloaded it to my desktop...
[08:55] <James_Ward> Amaranth, Backup and format what?
[08:55] <konki> so how do i do that??
[08:55] <Amaranth> konki: Ok, sudo alien ~/Desktop/LimeWireLinux.rpm
[08:55] <konki> ok
[08:55] <Amaranth> James_Ward: Whatever is on the machine that is worth going through this horrible hassle.
[08:56] <James_Ward> Amaranth, There's nothing on the machine.  I can't install ubuntu any other way due to low RAM and non-bootable CD.
[08:57] <konki> Amaranth, this came up now        limewire-free_4.9.1-1_i386.deb generated
[08:57] <konki> is the installation complete??
[08:57] <Amaranth> konki: sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/limewire-free_4.9.1-1_i386.deb
[08:58] <floo> Can anyone help me with firefox?  Text on pages goes out of frame and i have to scroll horizontally to read anything.
[08:58] <Amaranth> floo: Blame the website.
[08:59] <floo> oh
[08:59] <freddy> crimsun, OMG MAN I GOT SOUND!!!!
[08:59] <freddy> i love you
[08:59] <freddy> thanks a lot man, i really love you
[09:00] <crimsun> np :)
[09:00] <tigliona1bit> hey, how do I use a joystick in prboom?
[09:00] <konki> Amaranth, it says errors were encountered while processing
[09:00] <James_Ward> Amaranth, I'm doing the ubuntu debootstrap using the CD.
[09:00] <Amaranth> konki: What errors?
[09:00] <Amaranth> James_Ward: I know nothing about debootstrap
[09:00] <konki> sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/limewire-free_4.9.1-1_i386.deb
[09:00] <James_Ward> Amaranth, Me either.  ;-)
[09:00] <freddy> crimsun, i wonder something tho....if i have to kinda format my desktop....jesus i dont want to bother anyone again with this...
[09:00] <konki> oops..konki@MOMO2:~$ sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/limewire-free_4.9.1-1_i386.deb
[09:00] <konki> dpkg: error processing /home/konki/Desktop/limewire-free_4.9.1-1_i386.deb (--install):
[09:00] <konki>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[09:00] <konki> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:00] <konki>  /home/konki/Desktop/limewire-free_4.9.1-1_i386.deb
[09:01] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[09:01] <Amaranth> konki: sudo dpkg -i limewire-free_4.9.1-1_i386.deb
[09:01] <freddy> so is there a way that you can kinda paste me the steps you told me in order to get it working?
[09:01] <freddy> crimsun ?
[09:01] <James_Ward> Oh, one thing that makes me wonder is, it installs i686 libc6... that won't run will it?
[09:01] <whiprush> morning Amaranth, crimson, *.*
[09:01] <whiprush> crimsun even. :p
[09:01] <freddy> crimsun, like scroll a bit and paste them on pm for me..in order to save them
[09:01] <konki> Amaranth, should a file named limewire-free_4.9.1-1_i386.deb appear on my desktop??
[09:01] <Amaranth> morning whiprush
[09:02] <crimsun> moin whiprush
[09:02] <Amaranth> konki: Probably not, thus the new command to run. :)
[09:02] <j2dope> hmmm. gnomebaker couldn't do dvds. with nautilus it keeps saying 'incorrectly encoded string' when i try to burn. any suggestions?
[09:02] <crimsun> freddy, "format your desktop"?
[09:02] <freddy> crimsun, lol...my computer
[09:02] <freddy> sorry
[09:03] <konki> Amaranth, ok done unpacking, is it done??
[09:03] <crimsun> freddy, if you need to, just search the Ubuntu forums for "azalia" or "azx"
[09:03] <Amaranth> konki: Should be, yeah.
[09:03] <freddy> crimsun, oh lemme check
[09:03] <j2dope> anyone?
[09:03] <bonggnu> hi i installed ubuntu today, and all works fine, but when i rebooted, i do not have sound, many players plays the sound, but this doesnot "sound", i check the phisycal connection, alsamixer, etc
[09:03] <konki> Amaranth, yeah i think so, thanks alot! lemme run it and see if it works...
[09:04] <Amaranth> j2dope: err, gnomebaker does DVDs
[09:04] <James_Ward> crimsun, Maybe the only problem before was booting the wrong kernel.  But the i686 libc6 sounds like a bomb.  Is there an i586 libc6 on the CD?
[09:04] <bonggnu> i am using hoary
[09:04] <j2dope> Amaranth: my bad i didnt realise my dvd burner wasn't selected
[09:04] <j2dope> my desktop is cluttered and i can hardly see the monitor im trying to burn with :P
[09:05] <crimsun> James_Ward, there's the standard i386 (non-suffixed) libc6
[09:05] <konki> Amaranth, i'm clicking on the program but it doesn't seem to respond...
[09:06] <Amaranth> konki: You don't click on the RPM.
[09:06] <James_Ward> crimsun, One thing I tried was installing to a USB drive on another system and then copying that over the network.  But the install system was i686 and my i586 died when it booted trying to use i686 libs.
[09:06] <Amaranth> konki: If there isn't anything in your menus you'll need to run 'limewire' from a terminal
[09:06] <Amaranth> konki: Why limewire though? giftoxic and azureus are better
[09:06] <konki> i am clicking on the one on the internet menu bar...
[09:06] <Amaranth> konki: and easier to install
[09:06] <James_Ward> crimsun, At least I think that was what happened.
[09:07] <konki> well  i havn't tried either one of those... which one is better???
[09:07] <James_Ward> crimsun, I still have the ubuntu USB stick if you think I can tweak it to use the right libraries?
[09:07] <bonggnu> how can i install avidemux into hoary?
[09:07] <konki> Amaranth, which p2p is better??
[09:07] <bonggnu> bittorrent
[09:07] <James_Ward> limewire is unstable in my experience.
[09:09] <crimsun> James_Ward, perhaps if you remove libc6-i686 from the usb stick it may work. I don't know offhand, because I've not tried such a procedure.
[09:09] <Amaranth> konki: azureus and giftoxic both use the same backend
[09:10] <James_Ward> crimsun, I was just thinking that.  Well, this will be reaady to boot in a minute.  I'll do a grub-install before I try it.
[09:10] <Amaranth> konki: azureus has more features, giftoxic fits in with GNOME and is easier to use
[09:10] <Kpjas> Hello Could you help me with Perl modules, please ?
[09:11] <James_Ward> crimsun, woody installed the kernel and drivers before debootstrap.  Maybe I have to do it manually from the CD before I reboot?
[09:11] <konki> Amaranth, thanks i'll find check em out and i'll be back if i need some help installing it, anyways thanks alot!
[09:11] <crimsun> James_Ward, worth an attempt
[09:12] <Amaranth> konki: They are both in synaptic
[09:12] <James_Ward> crimsun, So I need kernel, kernel-modules?
[09:12] <konki> what does synaptic means?
[09:12] <crimsun> linux-$(uname -r) and linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[09:12] <crimsun> err, the first should be linux-image-$(uname -r)
[09:12] <James_Ward> crimsun Danke
[09:12] <konki> i'll check the dictonary.. lol
[09:12] <crimsun> bitte
[09:14] <Kpjas> Where do I find perl modules LWP::UserAgent and Encode ?
[09:14] <James_Ward> Kpjas, cpan.org?
[09:15] <Amaranth> konki: It means you can use apt-get to install them
[09:15] <Amaranth> konki: synaptic is a GUI that makes it easy to use apt, I figured that's what you used (no offense)
[09:15] <Kpjas> James_Ward: any Debian/Ubuntu packages not around ?
[09:15] <freddy> 132. HOWTO: Font de-uglification LOL
[09:15] <freddy> what a title
[09:15] <mebaran151> any of you guys got an easy solution
[09:15] <freddy> lol
[09:15] <James_Ward> Kpjas, I don't think so.
[09:15] <mebaran151> to mount an ftp filesystem like it is local
[09:15] <mebaran151> ftpfs looks defunct
[09:16] <Amaranth> mebaran151: LUFS
[09:16] <mebaran151> I tried LUFS but it segfaults
[09:16] <Amaranth> FUSE?
[09:16] <mebaran151> FUSE seems like an application thing
[09:16] <mebaran151> I havent seen it applied in the manner which I need it to be applied
[09:16] <whiprush> they all kind of suck
[09:17] <Kpjas> James_Ward: :( and it contradicts the statement that Debian has a wide software base ;-)
[09:17] <jsgotangco> whiprush, hey :)
[09:17] <whiprush> hey jsgotangco
[09:17] <James_Ward> Kpjas, Perl modules are packaged by perl people.
[09:17] <freddy> crimsun, thanks a lot really
[09:18] <James_Ward> Anybody remembver the syntax to get perl to download and install modules?
[09:18] <freddy> now my tv card..
[09:18] <freddy> do you guys think that its going to be hard to get a tv card working?
[09:18] <freddy> and how do i add a launcher to the gnome meny?
[09:18] <Kpjas> James_Ward: perl -MCPAN -e shell
[09:18] <freddy> menu
[09:18] <Amaranth> !tell freddy about smeg
[09:18] <crimsun> freddy, np
[09:19] <James_Ward> Kpjas, Looks like you're on top of it.
[09:19] <Kpjas> but it doesn't work for me James_Ward
[09:19] <freddy> Amaranth, thanks
[09:19] <James_Ward> Kpjas, What does it say?
[09:20] <Amaranth> cafuego: Perhaps ubotu should NOTICE instead of PRIVMSG? It makes it easier to notice (most clients put NOTICEs in the window you're looking at).
[09:20] <crimsun> James_Ward, there's also dh-make-perl
[09:20] <Kpjas> I need to install three modules and it fails with some cryptic msgs
[09:20] <freddy> now how do i install a .deb package?
[09:20] <freddy> deb file.deb?
[09:21] <crimsun> -i
[09:21] <Amaranth> cafuego: Also, I can give you the UbuntuBot nick if you want it (I own it).
[09:21] <Kpjas> James_Ward: I'll keep trying with less recent modules
[09:21] <James_Ward> crimsun, Okay, ase system installed successfully.
[09:21] <Kpjas> bye for now
[09:21] <freddy> hrmm i have no deb.
[09:23] <anatole> can someone tell how to disable trash for some drives?
[09:26] <[ubu-e] demon> Hi I have started European Ubuntu Clan. This is a tc:e clan. tc:e is a free tactical shooter. Anyone interested ?
[09:31] <[ubu-e] demon> we have started the channel #ubu-e
[09:32] <James_Ward> crimsun, Is there any way I can install linux image and modules from the CD without having to resolve all the dependencies manually?
[09:32] <tigliona1bit> James_Ward: apt
[09:32] <cafuego> James_Ward: Add the cd to /etc/apt/sources.list and use 'apt-get install'
[09:32] <Seveas> James_Ward, when you install ubuntu it installs linux-386 (ie: kernel+modules) automagically
[09:32] <tigliona1bit> James_Ward: man apt-cdrom
[09:33] <James_Ward> Seveas, I'm upgrqading from woody.
[09:33] <crimsun> James_Ward, you only need linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386
[09:33] <tigliona1bit> James_Ward: why don't you use the internet?
[09:33] <Seveas> James_Ward, ack
[09:33] <Seveas> in that case: apt-cdrom add && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[09:33] <James_Ward> crimsun, I'm getting dependency problems.
[09:33] <Seveas> and linstll the linux-386 package
[09:33] <crimsun> James_Ward, on libc6?
[09:33] <James_Ward> apt-cdrom
[09:33] <James_Ward> Ooops.
[09:34] <freddy> hrmm my tv card wont work
[09:34] <James_Ward> crimsun, no, let me look.
[09:34] <freddy> tvtime just says No Signal
[09:34] <Seveas> crimsun, he's upgrding from woody, not sarge ;)
[09:34] <Seveas> mogh dwa_
[09:35] <James_Ward> Seveas, My chrooted ubuntu can't see the CD.
[09:35] <Seveas> hmm
[09:35] <Seveas> why are you chrooted?
[09:36] <James_Ward> Seveas T&o mkae sure dpkg installs in the right place?
[09:36] <dwa_> mogge Seveas
[09:36] <tigliona1bit> James_Ward: you mean apt, right?
[09:36] <James_Ward> Seveas, I'm booted from floppy 0on a woody install.
[09:36] <James_Ward> apt isn't configured yet.
[09:36] <tigliona1bit> =[
[09:37] <Seveas> hmm
[09:37] <konki> Amaranth, thanks! which Azureus release should i download... or on the other hand if its synaptic install it straight from there??
[09:37] <Seveas> without apt you cannot install anyhting automagically
[09:37] <konki> the symnatic package manager that is
[09:37] <Seveas> why not simply boot into the woody install..?
[09:37] <s0n1cm0nk3y> im having trouble with linux currently
[09:37] <s0n1cm0nk3y> can anyone help?
[09:38] <tigliona1bit> s0n1cm0nk3y: what's troublin' ya?
[09:38] <James_Ward> Seveas, It's not currently bootable.
[09:38] <Seveas> James_Ward, hmm...
[09:38] <Seveas> sounds like a clean install might be better..
[09:38] <s0n1cm0nk3y> my problem is my machine keeps freezing, it crashed twice, and then crashed 3 times during boot
[09:38] <tigliona1bit> =[
[09:38] <Seveas> s0n1cm0nk3y, which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[09:38] <s0n1cm0nk3y> 5.04
[09:39] <James_Ward> crimsun, It says linux-image-386 depends on linux-image-2.6.10-4.386
[09:39] <Seveas> James_Ward, linux-image-286 is a metapackage
[09:39] <James_Ward> Seveas, I'm sure it wouldm\, ut it isn't possible.
[09:39] <freddy> anyone have any xperience with tv cards?
[09:39] <cafuego> s0n1cm0nk3y: What error messages did it display when it crashed during boot? if none, what was the last message displayed on screen?
[09:39] <Seveas> James_Ward, why not..?
[09:39] <s0n1cm0nk3y> acpi modules
[09:39] <konki> is the apt the same as the Synaptic Package Manager??
[09:39] <s0n1cm0nk3y> and now that i remember
[09:39] <Seveas> konki, sort of
[09:39] <cafuego> s0n1cm0nk3y: Did you try booting with the 'noacpi' param?
[09:40] <s0n1cm0nk3y> it also crashed booting up gnome, only got eh bottom panel
[09:40] <s0n1cm0nk3y> no, im a bit of a n00b
[09:40] <James_Ward> Seveas, I issued dpgk -i linux-image-386_2.6.10-5_i386.deb
[09:40] <s0n1cm0nk3y> and acpi worked before, and is working now
[09:40] <James_Ward> Seveas, 32M RAM and no bootable CD.
[09:40] <s0n1cm0nk3y> its weird because my system crashed with only rythm box, my term, gaim, and firefox open
[09:40] <Seveas> 32M is a bit too little..
[09:40] <konki> Seveas, could you please give me some input on how to install Azureus from the Synaptic Pkg Mngr.
[09:41] <s0n1cm0nk3y> and ive had way more than that open before
[09:41] <Seveas> James_Ward, that should work...
[09:41] <James_Ward> Seveas, I know.
[09:41] <konki> or what pkg to download...
[09:41] <Seveas> konki, maybe from backports...
[09:41] <James_Ward> Seveas, I doesn't, says it depends on -4 image.
[09:42] <crimsun> James_Ward, I only stated linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386
[09:42] <s0n1cm0nk3y> im fearing its something with my mobo, or maybe my hdd
[09:42] <s0n1cm0nk3y> because it failed to the boot the drive once, got stuck while trying to run it
[09:42] <James_Ward> crimsun I know, that's what I am trying to do.
[09:42] <crimsun> James_Ward, and what is holding them up?
[09:42] <s0n1cm0nk3y> i had my mobo running verbose on boot, and thats when i saw one of the errors, only one
[09:42] <Seveas> konki, it is available from the backports
[09:42] <mebaran151> any simple ideas on how to mount an ftp drive
[09:42] <Seveas> konki: To find out the location of backports, go to backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php
[09:42] <cafuego> 32Mb ram is fine, just not for huge X apps.
[09:42] <mebaran151> not an ftp drive
[09:42] <mebaran151> but an ftp share
[09:42] <James_Ward> crimsun, It says the meta package depends on the -4 image.
[09:42] <crimsun> James_Ward, apologies, but I will have to sleep soon
[09:43] <Seveas> mebaran151, menu places -> connect to server
[09:43] <James_Ward> crimsun I should too.
[09:43] <mebaran151> tried
[09:43] <mebaran151> it fails
[09:43] <mebaran151> Gnome VFS is not very good
[09:43] <crimsun> James_Ward, hmm, why are you trying to install the metapackage?
[09:43] <mebaran151> I dont think
[09:43] <Seveas> mebaran151, it is...
[09:43] <James_Ward> crimsun I am not.
[09:43] <s0n1cm0nk3y> in fact if i dont respond or whatever, its most likely because my box froze
[09:43] <mebaran151> Seveas
[09:43] <Seveas> maybe you made an error...
[09:43] <mebaran151> I tried it in gedit
[09:43] <mebaran151> nope
[09:43] <s0n1cm0nk3y> is their a way to fix that, like a keyboard shortcut
[09:43] <mebaran151> checked it twice
[09:43] <James_Ward> crimsun, That's what happens when I try toi install the image package you specified.
[09:43] <s0n1cm0nk3y> there*
[09:43] <crimsun> James_Ward, linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 ?
[09:44] <mebaran151> the same info lets me log in at gftp
[09:44] <mebaran151> but wont let gedit directly edit the file
[09:44] <crimsun> (that's the only image one I specified)
[09:44] <mebaran151> kioslave just seemed so much better
[09:44] <konki> Seveas, ok.... i have this thing called the [Enter the complete APT line of the repository that you want to add]  ATP Line"
[09:44] <mebaran151> nautilus always sanfaus
[09:44] <Seveas> s0n1cm0nk3y, when booting, hit [esc]  to get the grub menu, scroll to the line you wna to boot, hit e to edit that line and add noacpi to that line
[09:44] <mebaran151> snafus
[09:44] <James_Ward> crimsun, linux-image-386_2.6.10-5_i386.deb
[09:45] <James_Ward> crimsun, Is that wrong?
[09:45] <s0n1cm0nk3y> seveas, what exactly does acpi do?
[09:45] <Seveas> probably it causes you errors ;)
[09:46] <Seveas> s0n1cm0nk3y, it's the subsystem that handles power management
[09:46] <Amaranth> Seveas: Are you opposed to clearing out some of the bans in the list?
[09:46] <Amaranth> Seveas: It seems that ops forget to unban after awhile.
[09:46] <s0n1cm0nk3y> seveas so theres no need for it, or would it be good to have it
[09:46] <James_Ward> crimsun, linux-image-386_2.6.10-5_i386.deb
[09:46] <Seveas> Amaranth, I have been doing that over the last days :)
[09:46] <crimsun> James_Ward, that looks right
[09:46] <Seveas> Amaranth, in fact, I was going to continue right now
[09:46] <s0n1cm0nk3y> seveas it was only on one boot that had the problem
[09:46] <crimsun> James_Ward, shouldn't be getting a dependency on -4- if you're installing -5-
[09:46] <s0n1cm0nk3y> seveas thats why im fearing its mech breakage
[09:47] <Seveas> s0n1cm0nk3y, ahh, so only once it broke down, but now it's ok..?
[09:47] <James_Ward> crimsun, But alas, I am.
[09:47] <s0n1cm0nk3y> seveas so far
[09:47] <crimsun> James_Ward, are you referring to linux-image-386?
[09:47] <Amaranth> Seveas: Just clear all the ones that it shows sagan.freenode.net setting except ones that are obviouly bots.
[09:47] <James_Ward> crimsun, I am using dpkg on a .deb I copied from the CD.
[09:47] <Seveas> Amaranth, I have none set by sagan ;)
[09:47] <James_Ward> crimsun, I cht
[09:48] <Amaranth> Seveas: You idle too much. :P
[09:48] <James_Ward> I chrooted into the /target
[09:48] <Seveas> Amaranth, maybe we should document ban resons somewhere
[09:48] <Amaranth> Seveas: Clear any I've set.
[09:48] <Seveas> Amaranth, they are set by ballard.freenode.net on zelzny ;)
[09:48] <Amaranth> ah
[09:48] <DSteele> anyone here use  a TV card with ubuntu?
[09:49] <James_Ward> crimsun, maybe if I used the aptitude -r methid from woody it would install the kernel?
[09:49] <s0n1cm0nk3y> seveas heres how it went, everything going fine, freeze, reboot, everything going fine, freeze reboot, failed boot into ubuntu, failed gnome boot (only bottom panel), another failed boot( on acpi), reboot, mobo verbose doesnt get past primary hdd (with 20 win/ 20 ubuntu), reboot, failed boot, reboot, currently working
[09:49] <s0n1cm0nk3y> forgot to add reboots between those without em
[09:49] <crimsun> James_Ward, never tried that.
[09:49] <James_Ward> crimsun, Can I just download the kernel from somewhere?
[09:49] <crimsun> James_Ward, sorry, but I'm about to collapse
[09:50] <James_Ward> crimsun, Me too!  :-)
[09:50] <Seveas> s0n1cm0nk3y, if this sort of things happen again, try that noacpi trick
[09:50] <crimsun> James_Ward, you can extract vmlinuz from the deb using dpkg-deb -x
[09:50] <s0n1cm0nk3y> ok
[09:50] <jtan325> does anyone here use fluxbox?
[09:50] <s0n1cm0nk3y> seveas also to make known, this happens sort of frequently, after a few days ubuntu starts to weird out on me
[09:51] <James_Ward> crimsun, Hell, even that is complaining about dependenciues.
[09:51] <s0n1cm0nk3y> seveas , after a few days from a reinstall of ubuntu *
[09:51] <Seveas> s0n1cm0nk3y, yeah, I really expect that to be acpi
[09:51] <s0n1cm0nk3y> seveas ah, so what are you guessing to be the problem with acpi?
[09:52] <s0n1cm0nk3y> seveas considering its worked so far, but fudges out after a few days?
[09:52] <Seveas> s0n1cm0nk3y, dunno, depends on your hardware
[09:52] <s0n1cm0nk3y> seveas should i give you a synop on my hd?
[09:52] <Seveas> acpi craps out sometimes on obscure (but also on a rare combination of mainstream) hardware
[09:53] <crimsun> James_Ward, g'luck, gotta go
[09:53] <James_Ward> crimsun. it has usr/share/doc in it?
[09:53] <James_Ward> crimsun, Thanks!
[09:53] <James_Ward> crimsun, You tried!
[09:53] <hondje> acpi hates via, too
[09:53] <hondje> of course, so do I, so that works out well
[09:54] <Seveas> :)
[09:54] <hondje> See, ANOTHER coloradan, we're taking over :D
[09:54] <s0n1cm0nk3y> anybody know of a way to check hardware and such, just to make sure nothing is going mech breakage on me?
[09:54] <Seveas>  /ban *!*@*colorado*
[09:54] <Seveas> :p
[09:55] <James_Ward> Seveas, Okay, last woody->ubuntu neglected to install a kernel, do you know the aptitude -r command line that is supposed to work better?
[09:55] <hondje> :)
[09:55] <s0n1cm0nk3y> like a command, or something to do in bios?
[09:55] <jtan325> no one here uses fluxbox?
[09:55] <Seveas> s0n1cm0nk3y, smartmontools can check your harddrive, memtest the memory
[09:55] <s0n1cm0nk3y> jtan325 its my secondary wm
[09:55] <Seveas> James_Ward, I never did a woody->ubuntu upgrade myself
[09:55] <s0n1cm0nk3y> is it linux, or windows?
[09:55] <parabolize> this "coloradan" is feeling stupid in e17. :(
[09:56] <freddy> oh this is nice http://bktr.sourceforge.net/ this is the site that its spose to have the driver for my tv card
[09:56] <Seveas> but if you do (and have apt setup), install ubuntu-base
[09:56] <jtan325> s0n1cm0nk3y, do you know anything about changing the font used?
[09:56] <jtan325> fluxbox looks like crap "out-of-the-box"
[09:56] <s0n1cm0nk3y> jtan325, nope, sorry
[09:56] <jtan325> s0n1cm0nk3y, what do you use then?
[09:56] <jtan325> (for wm)
[09:57] <freddy> jtan325, the font used where?
[09:57] <s0n1cm0nk3y> jtan325 for flux, however it was my friend set it up for me, i had problems with it at first, but then learned to configure a lil
[09:57] <s0n1cm0nk3y> jtan325 but if u mean my primary wm, gnome 2.10
[09:57] <parabolize> evil Eapps. Why O why can't I just make a text file. :(
[09:57] <s0n1cm0nk3y> seveas is smartmontools linux or windows?
[09:58] <jtan325> freddy, i.e. the font used for window titles, the fluxbox right-click menus, etc...
[09:58] <Seveas> s0n1cm0nk3y, linux
[09:58] <hondje> parabolize: what do you mean?
[09:58] <Seveas> it's in the ubuntu repositories
[09:58] <s0n1cm0nk3y> ah, a command, or do i have to install seveas
[09:58] <freddy> ahh..on fluxbox
[09:58] <Seveas> you have to install it :)
[09:58] <jtan325> yeah on fluxbox
[09:58] <jtan325> but i have a question that's not fluxbox-specific
[09:58] <parabolize> I can't make a *.eap. I'm going nuts o
[09:58] <jtan325> where should i put fonts that i download?
[09:58] <s0n1cm0nk3y> lol, wow i havent used synaptic in a while
[09:59] <jtan325> i..e. i downloaded a truetype font, it's in my home directory
[09:59] <jtan325> and i ran some command to "cache" it
[09:59] <jtan325> but i forget what that was now
[09:59] <jtan325> is that the best way to do it?
[09:59] <jtan325> or should i put the font in somehting like /etc/X11/fonts
[09:59] <jtan325> or something
[09:59] <jtan325> ...
[09:59] <hondje> .eap?
[09:59] <s0n1cm0nk3y> seveas man im really hoping its not hardware breakage, especially not mobo
[10:00] <hondje> Those are the applets, right?
[10:00] <parabolize> hondje the file e17 uses in its menus
[10:00] <hondje> oh, hrm
[10:00] <s0n1cm0nk3y> seveas um okay, installed how do i run it?
[10:00] <hondje> I haven't messed with e17 in a couple months, been so busy
[10:02] <cafuego> e17 has been vapourware since 1998 :-P
[10:02] <s0n1cm0nk3y> seveas ?
[10:03] <parabolize> cafuego: I like some of it. But this new menu system isn't looking so good.
[10:03] <hondje> Infidel, raster is a prophet
[10:04] <parabolize> entangle is great but the Eapp Editor sucks.
[10:05] <hondje> How stable is it getting?
[10:05] <parabolize> good. the text boxes act funny though
[10:06] <hondje> awesome :)
[10:07] <parabolize> alt + right click is now working. :) alt + tab is for some people but not me.
[10:08] <hondje> I wonder how much longer it'll be...probably a good year :-/
[10:09] <hondje> I wish I had more time to play with it, I've always liked e
[10:09] <IceDC571> is there a site that lists all the ogg radio stations i can listen to?
[10:10] <s0n1cm0nk3y> on i know its not an ubuntu question, but i have two jumpers with clear and default, im wondering what does clrtc and clrpwd mean
[10:10] <s0n1cm0nk3y> im sure clrpwd means bios pass, but what about clrtc?
[10:10] <pallav> how can i get more than one taskbar??
[10:10] <konki> GiFToxic help here please... already installed, how do i specify a host and port to connect to??
[10:12] <konki> GiFToxic error msg: "You need to specify a host and port to connect to."
[10:13] <parabolize> back to openbox
[10:16] <konki> GiFToxic error msg: "You need to specify a host and port to connect to." what do i do??
[10:18] <Madeye> smurfix, hey
[10:18] <smurfix> Madeye: ?
[10:18] <Madeye> smurfix, I messaged you yesterday and sent email to you about ubuntu-ar.org.
[10:19] <klaym> how can I set gxine as my default mediaplayer (in stead of totem) ?
[10:20] <s0n1cm0nk3y> seveas so how do i use these mon tools?
[10:20] <smurfix> Madeye: Yeah, sorry for the delay. Short answer: Your first stop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams -- there's no entry for Argentina on the list yet
[10:21] <Madeye> smurfix, ar argentina? I'm talking about Arabic.
[10:21] <smurfix> Madeye: Bah, sorry, my mistake
[10:21] <Madeye> smurfix,  is it a country based or language based?
[10:21] <twb_> after you push ctrl+alt+f2, how do you get back to desktop?
[10:22] <s0n1cm0nk3y> ctrl alt f6
[10:22] <s0n1cm0nk3y> i think, havent done that lately
[10:22] <smurfix> Mainly country-based, but there are exceptions. In your case it makes sense to add Arabic as a language though.
[10:22] <twb_> ok, thx
[10:23] <smurfix> You still need a team (and an entry for it on the wiki) first
[10:23] <Madeye> smurfix, Actually I was thinking to grab Arabuntu.org, but people recommends ubuntu-ar.org as its commonly used.
[10:24] <Madeye> smurfix, i'm filling it right now
[10:24] <smurfix> Madeye: .ar still is Argentina
[10:24] <smurfix> and we already have registered it
[10:25] <Madeye> smurfix, so what do you suggest? Arabuntu.org ?
[10:25] <s0n1cm0nk3y> um anybody know a good net and channel for hardware questions, primarily mobo?
[10:26] <smurfix> Madeye: arabuntu would work, so would ubuntu-ara.org ("ara" is the official three-letter code for Arabic)
[10:26] <light_punch2> what system spec is required to run ubuntu? and does ubuntu support kernel 2.4 as option?
[10:27] <smurfix> Madeye: Anyway, Canonical would like to be the owner of domain names like that, for trademark reasons
[10:28] <smurfix> Madeye: plus we don't want somebody to offer their own commercial services, or worse, with them
[10:28] <jtan325> so i was thinking, a great slogan to get ubuntu going like firefox would be "do ubuntu"?
[10:28] <jtan325> cheesy, yet eloquent
[10:29] <smurfix> Madeye: I'll /msg you the official address to use
[10:29] <Madeye> smurfix, we are after valunteering not anything else
[10:29] <smurfix> Madeye: I believe you
[10:29] <smurfix> Madeye: I didn't suggest anything else
[10:30] <smurfix> Madeye: Canonical still would like to be the owner-of-record. You get to control the domain yourself, as long as you don't abuse it, same as everybody else. ;-)
[10:30] <Amaranth> smurfix: Canonical doesn't own ubuntuguide.org
[10:32] <twb_> is there a cabextract command?
[10:32] <Seveas> twb_, yes, but you need to install the cabextract package to use it :)
[10:32] <twb_> ahh i see, now it makes sense, thanks
[10:33] <twb_> could i use apt-get to install it? apt-get install cabextract?
[10:35] <twb_> apt-get owns all
[10:35] <parabolize> twb_ yes. sudo apt-get install cabextract
[10:37] <smurfix> Amaranth: I know -- it may not be necessary to fix that. Other cases (like ubuntu.it) show that some people, unfortunately, need to be coerced into adhering to the rules. :-(
[10:39] <vladuz976> is there an address book for gnome? one like kde has and os x?
[10:40] <twb_> im reading a how-to install ubuntuforums.org but running into some problems, if anyone can help, please do
[10:40] <twb_> ventrilo^^
[10:41] <Seveas> smurfix, who is in charge of the Ubunt domain name business..?
[10:42] <parabolize> yes the mail client "Evolution" has a address book.
[10:42] <smurfix> Seveas: Depends on what you mean by "in charge" ;-)  I'm doing the LoCoTeam domain registrations.
[10:43] <Seveas> smurfix, well, ubuntu.nl is taken by a rogue person
[10:43] <Seveas> who to contact if you spot these things?
[10:44] <paulsh> hi all
[10:44] <paulsh> which marillat repo do i use for ubuntu hoary?
[10:44] <smurfix> Seveas: bah. Email mako and silbs @canonical.com.
[10:44] <paulsh> not sure if it's stable, unstable etc.
[10:44] <Seveas> paulsh, none
[10:44] <paulsh> Seveas, none?
[10:44] <Seveas> paulsh, marillat is not suitable for combining with hoary
[10:44] <smurfix> paulsh: multiverse. ;-)
[10:45] <Seveas> multiverse/backports fill the gap
[10:45] <paulsh> smurfix,seveas ahh right i see.
[10:45] <paulsh> i'll use multiverse then. thanks
[10:46] <mako> Seveas: a rouge.. uh oh :)
[10:46] <jsgotangco> how rougue? :D
[10:47] <Seveas> well, unable to contact and shows a 'This domain is registered by a client of Blabla' notice
[10:47] <smurfix> jsgotangco: The "This domain is for sale" kind.
[10:47] <jsgotangco> great i should learn from him then
[10:47] <jsgotangco> :D
[10:48] <twb_> is there a way i can access files from my windows partition...?
[10:48] <Seveas> twb_: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[10:48] <smurfix> Unlike ubuntu.it, which is of the "I add a top bar for my commercial stuff to ubuntulinux.org" kind. :-(
[10:48] <Seveas> smurfix, it is now of the 'blank page' kind :)
[10:48] <we2by> I have a problem here with rar files
[10:49] <jsgotangco> smurfix,  but some registrants always put a placeholder for unsold domains and say they are for sale
[10:49] <Seveas> we2by, install unrar-nonfree if they are rar v3 files
[10:49] <we2by> I have a big file spliited into .r0x
[10:49] <jsgotangco> like www.ubuntu.ph for example
[10:49] <smurfix> Seveas: not www.ubuntu.it :-(
[10:49] <Seveas> we2by, unrar x filename.rar (that autmagically takes the others)
[10:49] <Seveas> smurfix, ah indeed
[10:50] <we2by> Seveas, Seveas I allready have unrar installed
[10:50] <we2by> but by using x, it says not a rar archieve
[10:50] <Seveas> smurfix, then let www.ubuntulinux.org use a break-out-of-frameset script :)
[10:50] <Seveas> smurfix, it's 3 lines of javascript code :)
[10:50] <Seveas> we2by, unrar-nonfree works better
[10:51] <we2by> Seveas, what's the new command?
[10:51] <Seveas> still unrar
[10:51] <define> hi guys,
[10:51] <we2by> cause I allready have unrar installed
[10:51] <we2by> maybe the old one
[10:51] <Seveas> we2by, just aptitude install unrar-nonfree :)
[10:51] <twb_> this utility will run windows programs?
[10:51] <smurfix> Seveas: might be a good thing to add, true... not my responsibility though, can you file a bug with the script snippet on bugzilla?
[10:51] <Seveas> sure
[10:52] <define> How would you guys rate firestarter (firewall)?    or is it useless, and just better to use firehol w/ iptables?
[10:52] <Seveas> twb_, no, it will elt you access your windows files...
[10:52] <twb_> ah i see
[10:52] <Seveas> firestarter = iptables frontend...
[10:52] <we2by> is not RAR archive
[10:53] <we2by> Seveas, same error
[10:53] <define> excellent
[10:53] <we2by> Seveas, how do I verify it's an rar archieve?
[11:00] <define> hey guys, whenever i get this when using apt-get;
[11:00] <define> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[11:00] <define>   libdvdcss2
[11:00] <define> Install these packages without verification [y/N] ?
[11:00] <jtan325> yes
[11:00] <jtan325> alot of the "needed" packages are not officially part of ubuntu
[11:00] <jtan325> yet so many people need them, that's why they're backported, etc.
[11:01] <define> is it just saying that its not going to be ablke to tell if the package did come from the rep in question
[11:01] <pinko> is there such thing as "verified", for the debian servers?
[11:01] <Seveas> define, it is just saying that the package is not signed with a GPG key in your APT keyring
[11:01] <Seveas> which is the case for backports
[11:01] <define> or is it saying, we dontknow if that file is gona be bad or not?
[11:02] <define> ok, but if i got to the homepgae of these repositories and add the gpg key to my ring, i should be able to "authenticate" packages afterwards correct?
[11:03] <define> if the packager has a key...
[11:03] <Nameless1> Noatun is gona be my "vid player of choice" i got it playin movies yesterday. but now i want sound working. i have installed all the sound codec stuff i can find does anyone know what package i neeed to install
[11:03] <unome> why not many people volunteering to host backports?
[11:05] <Amaranth> unome: It sucks down all it can get from a 10mbit line and asks for more.
[11:06] <unome> Nah I mean like hosting providers
[11:07] <Amaranth> 10mbit 24/7/365
[11:07] <SpaceminD> hy folks
[11:07] <Amaranth> it's expensive
[11:07] <Amaranth> it was killing ubuntuforums
[11:07] <Amaranth> it killed sourceforge
[11:07] <SpaceminD> is there anyway to use w32codesc with totem in ubuntu ?
[11:07] <Amaranth> install totem-xine
[11:07] <Seveas> SpaceminD, yes, by using totem-xine
[11:08] <Amaranth> *cough* :)
[11:08] <SpaceminD> the sudo apt-get install totem-xine its fine to install it ?
[11:09] <Beavis_> can i ask a question ... ?
[11:09] <Amaranth> SpaceminD: Yep, should work fine.
[11:09] <nova1> mounting partitions onto the desktop. HOW...
[11:10] <SpaceminD> thanks
[11:10] <xuniL____> how do i mount my window partitions?
[11:10] <Beavis_> when i open a document file on a network computer .... will it automatically update the file i edited ????
[11:10] <Beavis_> or there has to be something i need to do to update / sync the file and it's changes ?
[11:11] <luminerd> So what I'm looking for, if anyone knows of something similar, is a program that automatically formats movie/theatrical scripts...like this: http://emmettloverde.com/mainpges/screenst.htm
[11:13] <Beavis_> ???
[11:14] <Seveas> xuniL____: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[11:14] <xuniL____> okey thx
[11:15] <Seveas> nova1, ln -s /path/to/mountpoint ~/Desktop/drive_name
[11:15] <jtan325> is there a way to set up xchat so that it joins a certain set of channels automatically on start up?
[11:15] <Seveas> yes
[11:15] <Seveas> go to the server list
[11:15] <Seveas> selct your server
[11:15] <Seveas> hit edit
[11:16] <jtan325> Seveas, thanks
[11:16] <nova1> Saveas : Error, no such file/directory.
[11:16] <jtan325> Seveas, are you on the Ubuntu team "officially"?
[11:17] <Beavis_> ey Seaves ..  wana ask u somethin' pertaining to network
[11:17] <Amaranth> me and Seveas are both community members
[11:17] <Seveas> jtan325, I am an official Ubuntu community member, but not related to development
[11:17] <jtan325> cool
[11:17] <Beavis_> if i opened a file on the network (i.e. doc file) and edited it, .. if i save it .. does it automatically save to the original file on the network machine ?
[11:18] <jtan325> i am in here a ton the past few days, and you have been around alot to help people out
[11:18] <Beavis_> if not, could help me attain this ?
[11:18] <jtan325> i appreciate it
[11:18] <jtan325> beavis
[11:18] <Seveas> did you open it with a smb:// or ssh:// or ftp:// link in nautilus..?
[11:18] <jtan325> why don't you try opening it again
[11:18] <Beavis_> smb://
[11:18] <jtan325> and see if your changes are still there?
[11:18] <Seveas> Beavis_, in that case: yes
[11:18] <define> .quit
[11:18] <Beavis_> tnx
[11:19] <Beavis_> i'll go ahead and try it .. 'coz i used konqueror
[11:19] <Beavis_> i mean .. correction
[11:19] <Beavis_> i tried that .. and used openoffice as the application
[11:19] <jtan325> what's the equivalent command line for the "connect to server" tool
[11:19] <jtan325> (in gnome)
[11:19] <Seveas> ah openoffice
[11:19] <Beavis_>  had to like close the openoffice 1st for it to save back to the net machine
[11:19] <Seveas> openoffice cannot handle gnome-vfs
[11:20] <Beavis_> which would be redundant
[11:20] <Beavis_> and ackward
[11:20] <Seveas> Beavis_, if you want complete transparent handling of samba, mount the samba share :)
[11:20] <Beavis_> hmmm ...
[11:20] <dockane> somebody asked me to support / show him linux on his mac. (he owns a powerbook g4? and an imac). for a first impression, which livecd would recommend ? i habe no possibility to test them in advance since i am mac free
[11:20] <Beavis_> no graphical app for that huh ?
[11:20] <pepsix> i have lirc_dev.o in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc, but when i try to do modprobe lirc_dev, it says FATAL: Module lirc_dev not found.. any ideas on how to make it find it?
[11:21] <dockane> *habe=have
[11:21] <Beavis_> Seaves: no graphical app for that huh ?
[11:21] <Seveas> Beavis_, no, but an easy-to-use shell script at ubuntu-nl.org/files/addsamba
[11:21] <WMCoolmon> hey, i'm trying to get thunderbird to work - i copied my .mozilla-thunderbird from a previous Ubuntu installation - but it says that the profile's already in use
[11:21] <Beavis_> ic ...
[11:21] <Beavis_> tnx
[11:21] <WMCoolmon> is there a lock file somewhere i can get rid of?
[11:21] <Seveas> WMCoolmon, then it has locked the profile dir
[11:22] <Seveas> WMCoolmon, .mozilla/firefox/default.random-string/lock
[11:22] <nova1> seveas - no such file or directory
[11:22] <freewoody> Hi all
[11:22] <catlinux> I have installed ubuntu amd64 5.04 at home but I have dial-up access at home. At work I have debian. How can I download all the packages from the amd64 repositories using apt-get here, at work to use them from a cd at home?
[11:22] <Seveas> nova1, what were you trying to do ..?
[11:22] <WMCoolmon> Seveas - ahh, the "profile dir" - that was the problem, i needed to chmod it to 755 rather than 500...thanks :)
[11:22] <freewoody> How do I reinstall the Grub Boot Loader. Windows has written the MBR
[11:23] <nova1> seveas : make a link from /mnt/winxp to the desktop.
[11:23] <Seveas> freewoody, wiki.ubuntu.com/recoveringgrubafterinstallingwindows
[11:23] <Seveas> nova1, ln -s /mnt/winxp ~/Desktop/winxp
[11:24] <Seveas> catlinux, use apt-zip
[11:24] <nova1> seveas - many thanks, hope i become as smart as you soon...
[11:24] <catlinux> Seveas: and which are the links to the amd64 5.04 to put them in sources.list?
[11:25] <catlinux> Seveas: and no apt-zip pakhage
[11:25] <catlinux> s/pakhage/package/g
[11:26] <philippe__> asking help to configure and run snapscane42
[11:27] <philippe__> hi all
[11:28] <iGama> is the ubuntuguide creator online?
[11:28] <Nameless1> Noatun wont use my soundcard, it said it was busy and could not be used when i opened it. How do i fix this, i want my sound!
[11:29] <Seveas> Nameless1, wrap it with esddsp or kill esd before using it
[11:29] <Nameless1> wrap it? how, i dun know what that is so yeh..
[11:30] <Seveas> if you start it with noatun, try staring it with esddsp noatun
[11:30] <gm78> Hey all
[11:30] <Seveas> hi
[11:30] <Seveas> iGama, not in here
[11:30] <iGama> Seveas thanks
[11:31] <acid2> hey
[11:31] <acid2> I've just got hold of Ubuntu, and run the update program
[11:32] <acid2> mep, never mind :P
[11:32] <Beavis_> Seaves : internet suddenly just conked out of my firefox, but when i tried using konqueror, it works well
[11:32] <Nameless1> i looked for esddsp in the noatun config area and couldnt find it
[11:34] <gm78> Beavis_, hmmmm, weird. Have you tried clearing your firefox cache and all that junk?
[11:34] <Beavis_> yeah ... it just happend suddenly
[11:34] <Beavis_> i didnt do anything
[11:35] <Beavis_> it's wierd
[11:35] <Nameless1> how do i wrap noatun with esddsp and how do i kill esd... sorry im new :(
[11:35] <gm78> Nameless1, killall esd
[11:35] <Beavis_> oh well .. i'll try figuring it out by myself
[11:35] <Beavis_> :D
[11:35] <gm78> Beavis_, try this :  open a terminal
[11:35] <Seveas> if you start it with 'noatun', try staring it with 'esddsp noatun'
[11:36] <gm78> oh, lol, never mind
[11:36] <Nameless1> still got no audio but not sure if thats due to no codec
[11:36] <bigfoot1> hello, does changing screen resolution affect processing speed? I changed from 1024 x  768 to 640 x 480, and it seems my pc is running faster.
[11:36] <gm78> Does anyone know if there is a way to make gaim play its sounds without having esd running? It worked fine on RHEL4
[11:37] <gm78> well, technically, CentOS
[11:37] <Seveas> gm78, gaim on Ubuntu uses esd by default
[11:37] <Nameless1> i did that, noatun is workin but no sound... anyone know how to make sure i have the audio codecs installed?
[11:37] <Seveas> gm78, tools -> preferences
[11:38] <Seveas> sound
[11:38] <Seveas> buton "sound method"
[11:38] <Seveas> I have it on auto, try setting it on esd
[11:38] <bigfoot1> to the optically challenged among us: has anyone tried Optical Exercises (example: the Bates Method), exercises which are supposed to make vision better?
[11:38] <gm78> Dont u mean Sound Events for the tab?
[11:40] <Seveas> gm78, i mean http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/Screenshot.png
[11:41] <gm78> Seveas, oh, LOL....i didnt realize u meant the settings right in gaim :P
[11:41] <Seveas> :)
[11:41] <gm78> lol
[11:41] <gm78> alright, thx for ur help
[11:43] <gm78> Seveas, ive tried all of the settings, it wont work with alsa
[11:43] <Seveas> correct
[11:44] <Seveas> esd hogs /dev/dsp so you cannot use alsa directly
[11:44] <gm78> Seveas, i have esd shut off
[11:45] <gm78> Seveas, like i have gnome set up to run killall esd everytime i log in
[11:46] <parabolize> gm78, I never tried it but... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753
[11:47] <gm78> parabolize, alright, im going to give that a shot...ill post back and let u know how it went
[11:49] <kent> where is the colony2 isos?  I cant seem to find them on the homepage :(
[11:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> kent http://cdimage.Ubuntu.com/releases/Breezy/colony-2/
[11:51] <Amaranth> Kamping_Kaiser: ?
[11:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> Amaranth: yes?
[11:51] <Amaranth> oh, i didn't see the 'kent' part
[11:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol.
[11:52] <kent> Kamping_Kaiser thanks!
[11:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[11:52] <cyberguy> hi there:)
[11:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi cyberguy
[11:53] <cyberguy> can i ask something about ubuntu
[11:53] <cyberguy> pls
[11:53] <rob^> no
[11:53] <rob^> hehe
[11:53] <rob^> ask away
[11:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[11:53] <Seveas> cyberguy, read the second part of the topic :)
[11:53] <Seveas> "Just ask!"
[11:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> Seveas: i was about to say that ;)
[11:54] <Seveas> beat ya :p
[11:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> :P bastard
[11:54] <cyberguy> i can't find any download manager here, is there something works like kget in ubuntu? tq
[11:55] <parabolize> wget
[11:55] <rob^> there is
[11:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> d4x
[11:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> ?
[11:55] <rob^> I just cant remeber the name.. dam fc3 box
[11:55] <cyberguy> should i download it somewhere?
[11:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> using apt
[11:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> or synaptic
[11:56] <paulsh> hi all. i've got a wired router, and just got a wireless bridge. a d-link thing. i want it so my 2 pc's can connect to the net via the bridge/router, but do i use ad-hoc or infrastructure setup?
[11:56] <cyberguy> ok thanks guys...
[11:56] <manaz> hi. what means an "pool" subdirectory under ubuntu archives ?
[11:56] <rob^> http://downman.sourceforge.net/
[11:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> paulsh: probably adhoc will do
[11:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> manaz: wheres that?
[11:57] <paulsh> Kamping_Kaiser, ok will try it thanks
[11:57] <Nameless1> xmms is playing audio fine, but noutun wont play any.... and im sure its not beucase of codecs can someone HELP ME!!! i plan on usin this computer for watcihn vids and php so i need this setup....
[11:57] <manaz> Kamping_Kaiser: hm . i'm searching for kind a archive and google finds that for me .
[11:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> manaz: i don't remember a pool under Ubuntu... only Debian... but i could be wrong
[11:58] <manaz> Kamping_Kaiser: http://search.belnet.be/packages/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/
[11:58] <manaz> for example
[11:58] <manaz> but i cannot access it via apt
[11:58] <manaz> must configure some extra source ?
[11:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> Nameless1: what codes how where why?
[11:59] <Nameless1> im sure its not the codecs
[11:59] <Nameless1> when i booted my system i got a error sayin it was due to the audio device being busy
[11:59] <Nameless1> im sure its related with that
[12:00] <snowman2> Can anybody help me with kopete?
[12:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> Nameless1: do sounds etc work? or is it a lot of things that are broken
[12:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> snowman2: try #Kubuntu
[12:00] <n1k0> Anyone succeeded to get kylix working in ubuntu...?
[12:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> manaz: oh, usualy stuff is got from dists/blah
[12:00] <Nameless1> i was told by ppl in here to type kill etc or something... i did that and it killed it and it didnt work then and i dont think it restarted, but xmms is playin mp3s right now
[12:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> Nameless1: I'm no good with sound
[12:01] <Nameless1> yeh :(
[12:01] <gm78> parabolize, looks like i wont know tonight, ive been encoding this video file for 3 hours and im not about to stop it to reboot like the guide says
[12:02] <manaz> Kamping_Kaiser: yes. i know. but it is possible to install something from that "pool" archive ?
[12:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> manaz: by hand, I'm not sure of any other ways
[12:03] <manaz> ok :)
[12:03] <manaz> tnx. i'll try .
[12:05] <gm78> Can someone explain to me how an avi file that is 900 MB turns into a 1500 MB MPG DVD file (and growing still)??? About how much more can i expect this thing to grow?
[12:06] <Seveas> gm78, if the avi is divx: divx is way better in compressing...
[12:06] <gm78> Seveas, yes, it is divx. crap, how much will it grow by do u figure? More than double? My harddrive is running low on space
[12:07] <manaz> 12^
[12:08] <Seveas> double, triple...
[12:10] <gm78> lol, im going to bed then
[12:10] <gm78> :P
[12:11] <n1k0> what's timwe in us?
[12:11] <n1k0> =)
[12:12] <n1k0> in finland 1.12 pm
[12:14] <Dr_Melectaus> Whats the html hex value of red and blue ?
[12:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> same as the usual hex values
[12:15] <Dr_Melectaus> tis ok i found them
[12:15] <Seveas> #ff0000 <- red
[12:15] <Seveas> #0000ff <- ble
[12:15] <Seveas> blue*
[12:17] <parabolize> n1k0 4:17 AM moutain time
[12:17] <parabolize> mountain
[12:17] <n1k0> =)
[12:17] <ivoks> hm.. laptop with hardware RAID, two sata disks and two DL DV
[12:17] <ivoks> DVD burners
[12:18] <ivoks> 4GB RAM
[12:18] <ivoks> nice machine :)
[12:18] <Seveas> wtf
[12:18] <Seveas> laptop?!?
[12:19] <Seveas> that must be a monstruous laptop case :)
[12:19] <n1k0> nice laptop =)
[12:20] <jsgotangco> i really don't want something THAT big
[12:20] <jsgotangco> :o
[12:20] <ivoks> yeah :)
[12:20] <ivoks> http://www.koncar-inem.hr/racunala/racunala/niko.htm
[12:20] <Seveas> I now have a nice compact hp/compaq nc6000
[12:20] <jsgotangco> i really want one of those really small fujitsu notebooks
[12:21] <Seveas> 17" monitor?!
[12:21] <Seveas> man, that is sooooo big
[12:21] <Seveas> does it have wheels?
[12:21] <jsgotangco> lol
[12:21] <ivoks> hehe 5.8kg :)
[12:22] <Seveas> omfg
[12:22] <jsgotangco> jeezz
[12:22] <ivoks> mad by Koncar... one of leading companys in Europe that builds trains :)
[12:22] <Seveas> mine is 2.6 kg :)
[12:22] <jsgotangco> that explains how huge it is
[12:22] <jsgotangco> trains
[12:22] <jsgotangco> heh
[12:23] <n1k0> mine is 2.2kg
[12:23] <parabolize> my old p3 compaq is ~4kg...
[12:23] <n1k0> but my laptop still runswith windows xp :/ cause girlfriend uses it...
[12:24] <n1k0> hmm...I think I should install ubuntu in it
[12:25] <parabolize> n1k0, one program at a time. start with firefox
[12:25] <Seveas> ivoks, the only thing it is missing is dual-processor :)
[12:25] <ivoks> hehe
[12:25] <ivoks> i'm sure niko2 will have dual core processor :)
[12:26] <Seveas> :)
[12:26] <Seveas> what's the price?
[12:26] <ivoks> 19.000kn
[12:26] <ivoks> that's..hm... 2.600 - 2.700 euros
[12:26] <n1k0> jeah firefox and gimp
[12:26] <Seveas> hmm
[12:26] <Seveas> not too expensive for what you get
[12:27] <Seveas> but I still think it should come with wheels/a trolleyi
[12:27] <Seveas> trolley*
[12:27] <ivoks> yep... they have low prices cause they are entering this market
[12:27] <ivoks> you don't have too doubt quality
[12:28] <ivoks> this company produced few invoations that they are still only company in the world that can do that
[12:28] <ivoks> ofcourse, in train market :)
[12:28] <Seveas> :)
[12:30] <ivoks> for example, their new tram has independend wheels
[12:31] <ivoks> their locomotives can drive in all europen conutries
[12:31] <ivoks> no other locomotive can do that :)
[12:31] <ivoks> cause of different voltage standards countries have
[12:32] <Seveas> yeah, that's total crap...
[12:32] <Seveas> somehow it should be standardized :)
[12:33] <ivoks> we had problem in ex yugoslavia with that... :)
[12:33] <ivoks> so, we needed locomotive that could drive from austia to greece
[12:33] <ivoks> and we buidl it :)
[12:34] <Nameless1> for some reason i have to keep remounting my drive each time i restart, does anyone know how to stop that?
[12:34] <jeroen_> Nameless1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:34] <jeroen_> (also works for non-windows partitions)
[12:35] <Nameless1> yeh this one is using resiserfs
[12:35] <Nameless1> it mounts fine, it just doesnt save it when i reboot...
[12:35] <Seveas> Nameless1: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[12:35] <Tsukasa> just add an entry to your fstab
[12:35] <Nameless1> yup
[12:36] <Nameless1> and by the way i had a problem with my audio if you guys remember.. anyway http://150.101.108.42/ there is a pic of my error there if anyone knows anything about sound plz help me out
[12:38] <Tsukasa> do you have sound issues with other applications as well or just with this one?
[12:38] <Nameless1> well on xmmp i can play that with no problems
[12:38] <Nameless1> i mean xmms
[12:39] <sly> hey all
[12:42] <randabis> hmm
[12:46] <kent> so.. in a few seconds I can boot Colony2. Yeah!
[12:47] <Seveas> good luck
[12:47] <Seveas> it is still quite buggy
[12:50] <jeroen_> nah, it's usable :-)
[12:52] <kent> Seveas I put in the CD while running windows and up came a dialoge about installing OO.o etc,  just had to to that before I rebooted :)  Very cool!
[12:54] <Seveas> that's the live cd :)
[12:55] <kent> Seveas yes, sorry for not mentioning it before.  Im at my parents house on vacation.  I wanted to play with Ubuntu for fun here.. :)  I dont want to install ubuntu on this computer.
[12:55] <Seveas> :D
[12:55] <Seveas> I hope it works for you, it seemed to be a bit hairy
[01:03] <u1sun> hi -- i installed over the sources.list
[01:03] <u1sun> what folder should it be?
[01:03] <u1sun> what folder should the sources list be in?
[01:04] <u1sun> and i get errors now with 'sudo apt-get update'
[01:04] <rasputnik> ahluka: see the http://ubuntuguide.org, that worked for me
[01:04] <parabolize> u1sun /etc/apt
[01:04] <ahluka> rasputnik: cheers
[01:04] <andidreas> moin
[01:05] <andidreas> bekommt man hier support?
[01:05] <thomas___> jahre
[01:05] <thomas___> english please
[01:05] <andidreas> ok, sorry
[01:05] <spike> hi there
[01:05] <thomas___> :D
[01:05] <andidreas> thought this is an german speaking room
[01:05] <andidreas> may i get here some support for my ubuntu installation?
[01:06] <thomas___> okay... if you wish you can log into a german speaking room...
[01:06] <andidreas> whats the name of the german speaking room? is it on the same server? :-/
[01:06] <zever> #ubuntu-de
[01:06] <andidreas> tnx
[01:06] <andidreas> join #ubuntu-de
[01:06] <thomas___> as zever says :D
[01:07] <thomas___> is the nvidia drivers installed by default ?
[01:07] <goldfish> nope
[01:07] <spike> mmmh, where should I look to setup ubuntu as a multimedia box? like java/flash plugins, dvd, wmv/avi/real, is there a specific place for such docs?
[01:08] <bigfoot1> hello everyone. For some reason my file browser is not working. I do a "force quit", and then another one of these windows pop up. I don't know what's wrong. Please help a newbie
[01:08] <thomas___> hm
[01:08] <Seveas> spike: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[01:08] <spike> that is, tnx much Seveas
[01:14] <bigfoot1> hello. I was able to close the File Browser program for good (by trying a force quit as soon as the new window appears). But now, I can't switch from Xchat to the open Firefox window. And the applet on my panel shows 0% CPU processor usage. What's going on?
[01:15] <parabolize> bigfoot1, what did you do?
[01:15] <bigfoot1> parabolize, nothing.
[01:16] <parabolize> how did you close nautilus
[01:16] <bigfoot1> i wasn't doing anything unusual. I just had Firefox and File-Browser open.
[01:17] <bigfoot1> parabolize, I closed Nautilus by right-clicking on the tab in the panel and then choosing "Close."
[01:18] <bigfoot1> I had to do the same thing with Firefox, too.
[01:18] <bigfoot1> And when i restart firefox, it just crashes/hangs.
[01:18] <bigfoot1> what's going on?
[01:19] <parabolize> im lost, whats the problem
[01:19] <parabolize> do a ctrl + alt + back space
[01:20] <bigfoot1> parabolize, I can't use Firefox nor File Browser.
[01:20] <parabolize> restart x with the above
[01:20] <bigfoot1> parabolize, but doing so will exit me out of everything, won't it?
[01:20] <parabolize> yes
[01:20] <bigfoot1> Does X have to be restarted? Is that the solution?
[01:21] <parabolize> bigfoot1, It might fix it.
[01:21] <thomas___> Hello... it there somekind og
[01:22] <bigfoot1> okay. i'll try that. but i'd like to find out what's causing the problem.
[01:22] <bigfoot1> okay, here we go, parabolize .
[01:23] <u1sun> hi all, can someone help me with this?
[01:23] <u1sun> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/401
[01:23] <yuacht> #glamour
[01:24] <Nameless1> can someone tell me the name of a program on ubuntu that can burn a cd  from a ISO i have never burnt a cd on linux before
[01:24] <Seveas> u1sun: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[01:24] <goldfish> Nameless1: k3b.
[01:24] <goldfish> Nameless1: brilliant program.
[01:24] <jiyuu0> Nameless1, right click on the iso... then u have the option to burn it
[01:24] <jiyuu0> or u can use gnomebaker
[01:25] <Nameless1> thanx
[01:25] <jiyuu0> Nameless1, there's a section on cd burning in http://ubuntuguide.org
[01:25] <thomas___> Hello.. is there somekind of "step by step" guide to install the Nvidia drivers ?
[01:25] <Nameless1> yeh didnt realy need the guide tho, just the name of the softare :P
[01:25] <u1sun> Seveas, yes thks, is the command 'replace /etc/apt/sources.list' ?
[01:25] <Seveas> thomas___: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:25] <parabolize> Nameless1, k3b needs a lot of kde to work. I would install gnomebaker.
[01:25] <thomas___> okay..
[01:25] <thomas___> thanks
[01:25] <Seveas> u1sun, no, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:26] <phantasia-family> hi
[01:26] <Seveas> and simply paste all the contents of that pastebin url
[01:26] <Seveas> (while removing the crap ubuntuguide put in)
[01:26] <thomas___> bye
[01:26] <u1sun> Seveas, ah that was the main problem!
[01:26] <xunil_> hello all!
[01:26] <Seveas> u1sun, well, ubuntuguide is not the good way of doing things
[01:26] <jiyuu0> what's wrong with the ubuntuguide sources.list?
[01:26] <Seveas> a lot
[01:27] <I-I-I-Ears> Good Morning,  Happy Fourth!
[01:27] <Seveas> marillat/backports by default...
[01:27] <bigfoot1> parabolize, hello. i did the thing you told me. after entering my name and password. i just got my brown wallpaper and nothing else.
[01:27] <jiyuu0> Seveas, plz check
[01:27] <jiyuu0> marillat is long not in it already
[01:27] <I-I-I-Ears> How do i install a .tgz file?
[01:27] <bigfoot1> So i had to do that thing again and chose "reboot" from the lower left hand corner of the login screen.
[01:27] <Seveas> okay, so just backports by default...
[01:27] <Seveas> still evil...
[01:27] <u1sun> Seveas, thanks
[01:27] <Seveas> just like a lot of the 'instructions'
[01:27] <gorthaug> hi
[01:28] <u1sun> Seveas, yes - use backports by default indeed!
[01:28] <feugan3333> tar -zxf myfile.tgz will extract the tar file to a directory
[01:28] <Seveas> u1sun, backports by default is evil...
[01:28] <parabolize> bigfoot1, thats not good. try a reboot. maybe something under x crashed.
[01:28] <renick> can somebody explain how to get the fonts in the audacity and ardour interfaces to be antialiased?
[01:28] <Seveas> backports should only be used by people who know they are using them...
[01:28] <jiyuu0> Seveas, well unless u can leave without w32codecs
[01:28] <jiyuu0> you would only confuss newbies to enable this and that
[01:28] <bigfoot1> parabolize, i _did_ a reboot. That's how i was able to get back here and chat with you now!
[01:29] <Seveas> jiyuu0, for codecs there's mplayer
[01:29] <Seveas> mplayrhq.hu i mean
[01:29] <bigfoot1> parabolize, how did i get X to crash?
[01:29] <jiyuu0> mplayer without w32... you can't play anything
[01:29] <parabolize> bigfoot1, no idea
[01:29] <jiyuu0> and backports has the w32
[01:29] <Seveas> mplayerhq.hu too
[01:29] <jiyuu0> and many updated stuff
[01:29] <Seveas> not needed
[01:29] <Seveas> and lots of crap too
[01:29] <I-I-I-Ears> feugan - is a tgz file installed after it is untarred?
[01:29] <jiyuu0> apt-get install w32 is very much easier to go to mplayerhq.hu right?
[01:30] <parabolize> bigfoot1, does stuff work now?
[01:30] <Seveas> but ubuntuguide has more crap than backports :)
[01:30] <jiyuu0> if u don't like it... then don't use it
[01:30] <bigfoot1> parabolize, yes, it's back to normal now, thanks!
[01:30] <Seveas> jiyuu0, i don't :)
[01:30] <jiyuu0> good :)'
[01:30] <Seveas> jiyuu0, and i advise everybody not to
[01:30] <Seveas> the wiki contains so much better information
[01:30] <Seveas> it actually has information
[01:30] <jiyuu0> yes yes
[01:30] <Seveas> ubuntuguide has none
[01:30] <jiyuu0> true
[01:31] <renick> I-I-I-Ears: no
[01:31] <jiyuu0> ppl like u just wine
[01:31] <Seveas> jiyuu0, sure
[01:31] <Seveas> if you don't like it, /ignore me
[01:31] <jiyuu0> ;-)
[01:31] <Seveas> but ubuntuguide is crap
[01:31] <Seveas> and that's what everybody is telling and being told in here
[01:31] <sly> Seveas this might be a question for you ....... =\
[01:31] <Seveas> sly, ask away
[01:32] <sly> i have ......................... my XP box downstairs............... with my Ubuntu Box *( This One ) in the loft
[01:32] <sly> i want to connect another pc at the side of this to mine and let it get to the outside world
[01:32] <sly> is highly unpratical to have that amount of network wire trailing downstairs to the router from up here
[01:33] <Seveas> sly, you mean like internet connaction sharing..?
[01:33] <Seveas> sly, plug in an extra network card in the Ubuntu machine and install firestarter to enable internet connection sharing
[01:33] <sly> lil diagram <Router> ------- <XP> ------- <Me Ubuntu > --------< New Ubuntu Or Other Distro >
[01:33] <sly> simple enough already got firestarter stalled n stuff
[01:34] <Seveas> nice
[01:34] <madmavric> lnaybody know what folder to install new themes to?
[01:34] <Seveas> sly, or put a simple hub/switch before the ubuntu machine and let the XP machine or the router handle connection sharing
[01:34] <Seveas> madmavric, http://art.gnome.org/faq.php
[01:35] <feugan3333> Hi all. Could someone plz give me some help. X does not work so I'm trying to install nvidia drivers to see if that will help. But it requires kernel-headers package (??), how would I check to see if the package is already installed? Or how would I install it?
[01:35] <sly> i was thinking that but thinking aheadi think i might have to give myself access thru the XP box
[01:35] <Seveas> feugan3333, please use the ubuntu-provided Nvidia drivers
[01:35] <sly> thinking i aint got enopugh wire
[01:35] <Seveas> feugan3333: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:35] <sly> so in end will only be XP box connect to router................ then me to xp.... the  gota get other thru me
[01:36] <phantasia-family> i have a question
[01:36] <sly> giving me headache already and aint started yet
[01:36] <feugan3333> Seveas: thanks
[01:36] <phantasia-family> sound doesn't work ... http://phpfi.de/68211 ... any ideas?
[01:38] <sly> so last thing if i was to connect to the xp box which was connected router , how to connect to the new box thru me to the xp and beyound ( tryd saying that not too confusing )
[01:38] <madmavric> ya im not finding the location for the file to install themes too, anybody know the path?
[01:38] <Seveas> sly, http://ubuntu-nl.org/~dennis/sly.txt
[01:39] <sly> wow i get my own text file , cheers :)
[01:40] <madmavric> guess ill have to go to ubuntuguide.org to get any real help
[01:40] <Will__> Free text files for all!
[01:40] <sly> haha Seveas thankyou all sorted option 3 it is , ( cant be assed to go to work to steal a hub ) so will get new nic for 10 for shop
[01:40] <Will__> <-on the fore-front of the revolution
[01:40] <sly> thanx again :)
[01:40] <Seveas> yw
[01:41] <Seveas> Will__, http://ubuntu-nl.org/~dennis/Will__.txt
[01:41] <dbclimax> buenas!
[01:41] <Seveas> :p
[01:41] <Seveas> buenas dias!
[01:41] <Will__> *grin* Thanks Seveas
[01:42] <dbclimax> alguien me puede echar un cable con el vnc? no consigo activarlo!!
[01:43] <renick> let me ask again: anyone know how to get the fonts in ardour and audacity to be antialiased?
[01:43] <xunil_> any one know where to gett the libpng3 package?
[01:43] <Seveas> dbclimax, we speak english in here
[01:43] <Seveas> dbclimax, va en #ubuntu-es por espanol
[01:44] <jiyuu0> xunil_,  have u try apt-get install libpng3?
[01:44] <dbclimax> ok!
[01:44] <Seveas> xunil_, aptitude install libpng3 :)
[01:45] <Seveas> xunil_, you need to have universe enabled
[01:45] <Seveas> xunil_: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:45] <Seveas> xunil_: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[01:45] <feugan3333> Seveas: I read the BinaryDriverHowto that you refered me too. Seems that the driver does not support amd64 bit. Which I *have*, can i still compile the driver from source?
[01:45] <xunil_> thx
[01:45] <Seveas> feugan3333, of course you can
[01:46] <xunil_> i think i have installed it now :D
[01:46] <sun_> hello
[01:46] <parabolize> hello
[01:46] <Seveas> feugan3333, for kernel headers: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:46] <sun_> i want to upgrade Firefox but i cannot upgrade dueto depencies
[01:47] <Seveas> sun_, do NOT use the firefox from backports
[01:47] <Seveas> that package is crappy
[01:47] <sun_> what is backports
[01:47] <sun_> i am very new to linux
[01:48] <sun_> only 3 days
[01:48] <Seveas> how are you trying to upgrade it..?
[01:48] <Seveas> installing manually is not needed!
[01:48] <sun_> sybaptic
[01:48] <Seveas> that should work
[01:48] <feugan3333> Seveas: can I type it exactly like that or should I insert the version of my kernel
[01:48] <Seveas> can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on paste.ubuntulinux.nl please sun_
[01:48] <Seveas> feugan3333, you can type it as-is
[01:49] <feugan3333> Seveas: ok i'll give it a try. thanks again
[01:49] <sun_> Seveas hold on a sec please
[01:49] <rasputnik> is it me, or is totem shit at runnig WMVs?
[01:49] <xunil_> trying to fix this error can you help me? kxdocker: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:50] <spike> I've installed Reaplayer as explained on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, but it doesnt even run. if I run "realplay" as user nothing happens (running from a terminal). it hangs there, without giving me the prompt back, but no window pops up
[01:50] <Seveas> rasputnik, it is
[01:50] <Seveas> better use mplayer
[01:51] <spike> yeah, but how to set it up so it can use the realplayer codecs?
[01:51] <Seveas> try killing esd before starting realplayer
[01:52] <rasputnik> Seveas: that' wouldn't open a display :$ - i went for xine, that seemed to have no problems.
[01:52] <Seveas> rasputnik, edit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf and set ao=esd
[01:53] <Seveas> rasputnik / spike http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:53] <sun_> # deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[01:53] <sun_> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[01:53] <sun_> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[01:53] <sun_> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[01:53] <sun_> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[01:53] <sun_> deb http://ftp.opentle.org/people/mrchoke/ubuntu hoary/
[01:53] <sun_> deb-src http://ftp.opentle.org/people/mrchoke/ubuntu hoary/
[01:53] <sun_> deb http://linux.thai.net/apt ./
[01:54] <spike> ouch
[01:54] <Seveas> sun_, please don't paste in here...
[01:54] <Seveas> sun_, and that sources.list is fucked up....
[01:54] <Seveas> sun_: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[01:54] <phantasia-family> cu
[01:55] <sun_> the thing is i cannot use Firefox
[01:55] <sun_> i have already uninstalled it
[01:55] <acid2> hello - to get mp3 support in ubuntu I need to add the debian-marillat repository, correct?
[01:55] <blazint> gaim MSN cannot login?
[01:55] <Seveas> sun_, i'll paste you a correct sources.list in PM
[01:55] <sun_> thanks
[01:56] <Seveas> blazint, it can :)
[01:56] <sniff> hi all
[01:56] <blazint> Seveas, mine says "messenger.hotmail.com" cannot be resolved in debug mode...
[01:56] <Seveas> blazint, then you have a DNS problem...
[01:57] <blazint> Seveas, maybe :S
[01:57] <Seveas> $ host messenger.hotmail.com
[01:57] <Seveas> messenger.hotmail.com is an alias for messenger.hotmail.msnmessenger.msn.com.akadns.net.
[01:57] <Seveas> messenger.hotmail.msnmessenger.msn.com.akadns.net has address 65.54.239.140
[01:57] <sniff> how do i switch in the ubuntu-de channel?
[01:57] <Seveas> sniff, type /join #ubuntu-de
[01:58] <blazint> Seveas, it stopped at "messenger.hotmail.com is an alias for messenger.hotmail.msnmessenger.msn.com.akadns.net."
[01:58] <sniff> thx
[01:58] <acid2> is ubuntuguide.org down?
[01:58] <blazint> Seveas, then nothing resolved to an IP. :(
[01:58] <Seveas> acid2, no, but you shouldn't use it...
[01:58] <acid2> why?
[01:59] <acid2> im a noob! :(
[01:59] <Seveas> it's crappy
[01:59] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com has much better information
[01:59] <acid2> well, not a noob, just cant get mp3 support
[01:59] <Seveas> acid2: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[01:59] <acid2> ah ha!
[01:59] <acid2> just what i was looking for :)
[02:00] <jiyuu0> acid2, the mirror of ubuntuguide just in case it's down
[02:00] <jiyuu0> http://www.frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/5.04/
[02:00] <Seveas> if you would have followed ubuntuguide to get mp3 support, there is great change that you would have wrecked your ubuntu
[02:00] <blazint> Seveas, confirmed my ISP dns got problem... :( thanks for the help
[02:00] <Seveas> blazint, ouch :(
[02:00] <jiyuu0> Seveas, u don't know what u r talking
[02:00] <jiyuu0> i've installed so many ubuntu using the guide and none crashed yet
[02:00] <Seveas> jiyuu0, i've spent DAYS in here helping people to restore damage caused by that stupid guide....
[02:00] <Seveas> so i know what i talk about...
[02:01] <renick> seveas, can you tell me about antialiasing in audacity's GUI?
[02:01] <renick> why isn't it antialiasing?
[02:01] <Seveas> renick, system -> preferences -> fonts perhaps..?
[02:01] <pluffsy> hello
[02:01] <renick> i've done that in gnome and kde, but still no antialiasing
[02:01] <Seveas> I don't use audacity so I cannot help much more...
[02:01] <Seveas> hi pluffsy
[02:02] <thomas___> hello... I have just installed tuxracer... but there is no sound ? the terminal says "%%% tuxracer warning: Warning: Couldn't set 22050 Hz 16-bit audio  Reason: No available audio device"
[02:02] <Seveas> thomas___, set tuxracer to use esd or kill esd before starting tuxracer
[02:02] <pluffsy> I'm just about to install ubuntu after not using linux on my desktop for about 1.5 year. what music player is the best now? I've looked a little at Rythmbox and it looks good with the database approch like itunes, but I've heard it's quite buggy still. what do you use?
[02:02] <pluffsy> hi Seveas :)
[02:03] <Seveas> pluffsy, beep-media-player
[02:03] <Seveas> for breezy (with mono installed by default) i'll switch to muine
[02:03] <jean-jacques> hello i would like to do some mind maps using ubuntu, but i don't find any software
[02:03] <thomas___> seveas, how :S ?
[02:04] <blazint> Seveas, i changed the order of the DNS servers, not it's working.. thanks a lot
[02:04] <Seveas> thomas___, pkill esd
[02:04] <Seveas> tuxracer cannot use esd unfortunately
[02:04] <thomas___> ok
[02:05] <thomas___> thanks..
[02:05] <sun_> Anyone please help, I want to add a printer which attaches to a windows machine to Ubuntu.
[02:05] <thomas___> do i have to do that everytime ?
[02:05] <bimberi> jean-jacques: I've installed freemind but had to do so by downloading the DEB package
[02:05] <Seveas> sun_, system -> administration->printing
[02:06] <Seveas> sun_, hit new printer, choose network printre
[02:06] <thomas___> okay... no..
[02:06] <sun_> Seveas, I cannot see the printer, but I can see Sharedocs.
[02:06] <thomas___> thanks :D
[02:06] <Seveas> sun_, and than set it to be a Windows Printer
[02:06] <Seveas> sun_, you cannot see printers in nautilus...
[02:06] <sun_> no
[02:06] <Seveas> you will have to fill in the details manually in the 'new printer' dialog
[02:06] <jean-jacques> bimberi, i'm looking for an alternative to freemind because it's really heavy
[02:07] <bimberi> jean-jacques: Fair comment - requires a JRE (as you'd know I guess)
[02:08] <sun_> Seveas, Do I nee username and password?
[02:08] <Seveas> if you need to login on the windows machine: yes
[02:11] <Nameless1> when i installed k3b it says it uses cdrdao to burn cds and that its missing, where is it included i did a search for it and nothing came up
[02:12] <Seveas> Nameless1, sudo aptitude install cdrdao
[02:13] <pluffsy> are there somewhere where I can read a summary of what will be new in breezy? I'm probably just stupid, but didn't find it at the site.
[02:13] <m0th> hi all
[02:13] <[koji] > how do I list apt installed programs sorted by date?
[02:14] <Nameless1> Seveas: thanx that worke
[02:14] <Nameless1> d
[02:14] <pluffsy> and thanks for the player tips Seveas.
[02:14] <xunil_> i need help fixing a problem this is the problem :kxdocker: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:14] <sun_> Seveas, it is not working.
[02:14] <Seveas> [koji] , there is no way of doing that
[02:14] <thomas___> why dosen't tuxracer shows up in "Games" in the gnome menu ?
[02:15] <js_> xunil_: apt-get install libpng3
[02:15] <Seveas> thomas___, because the package didn't define a menu entry
[02:15] <[koji] > Seveas: really? :(
[02:15] <xunil_> have installed it!
[02:15] <Seveas> thomas___, you can use smeg to create a menu entry
[02:15] <xunil_> thats the thing
[02:15] <thomas___> okay..
[02:15] <Seveas> xunil_, try #kubuntu
[02:15] <xunil_> okey..
[02:16] <thomas___> i have installed nvidia settings.... but i can find any "control panel" ?
[02:16] <sun_> Seveas, this is the message I have got.
[02:16] <sun_> Printing: Unable to connect to SAMBA host, will retry in 60 seconds...ERROR:  Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[02:16] <Nameless1> in linux sometimes my cdrom does not want to eject is there a command to FORCE IT to eject?
[02:16] <Tsukasa> umount /dev/cdromX
[02:17] <Tsukasa> after that you can use the hardware button
[02:17] <Nameless1> cool :)
[02:17] <[koji] > Nameless1: use -f
[02:17] <n1k0> umount -l /dev/xxx
[02:18] <acid2> I have the gstreamer0.8-mad package installed, but rhythm box doesnt play any mp3s
[02:18] <n1k0> use bmp ;)
[02:18] <acid2> well, I cant import folders of mp3 music into it, anyway
[02:19] <Ubuntian> is there a way to control an XP pc on the net from Ubuntu? (I'm trying to help an old man to setup a device)
[02:19] <thomas___> vmware?
[02:19] <Seveas> Ubuntian, applications -> internet -> terminal server client
[02:20] <[koji] > Ubuntian: vnc
[02:20] <Seveas> that has an XP remote desktop client
[02:20] <computerguy867> what could be the reason for seeing this: channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed.  When entering  sudo ssh -L 8080:safari.oreilly.com:80 glue.umd.edu -l ademarti and logging on to the glue server and entering localhost:8080 into the url box of my browser?  The error comes up in the terminal.
[02:20] <bigfoot1> anybody heard of Google Earth (earth.google.com)? I'd like to get the program to use this, but it's only for Windows. What can we do?
[02:21] <xunil_> no answer on that question there
[02:21] <Tsukasa> bigfoot1, tried wine already?
[02:21] <[koji] > bigfoot1: use wine
[02:21] <Ubuntian> Seveas, does he has to do something on his computer?
[02:21] <bigfoot1> [koji] , does wine work for you?
[02:21] <bigfoot1> Tsukasa, i haven't tried anything yet
[02:21] <Ubuntian> wine works great
[02:21] <Tsukasa> well, give it a shot
[02:21] <bigfoot1> Tsukasa, are you japanese
[02:21] <Seveas> Ubuntian, if it is XP home this is not possible, otherwise make sure you get an administrator account on that machine
[02:21] <[koji] > Ubuntian: check what XP type Pro or Home
[02:22] <Ubuntian> k
[02:22] <bigfoot1> Ubuntian, okay i'll try it with wine.
[02:22] <Tsukasa> no I'm not
[02:22] <Ubuntian> thanks guys
[02:22] <bigfoot1> Ubuntian, have you tried google earth in wine?
[02:22] <Ubuntian> bigfoot1, i'm using grabit on wine everyday, but wine doesn't make every app work u know, some work, many don't
[02:23] <[koji] > bigfoot1: wine works for me at least for the win program i care about
[02:23] <Tsukasa> unfortunately wine doesn't work too great with some custom engineered controls
[02:23] <Ubuntian> Seveas, [koji]  , thanks
[02:23] <Seveas> Tsukasa, that's an understatement :)
[02:24] <Ubuntian> bigfoot1, if google earth is based on keyhole, i tried that one on ubuntu/wine and it didn't work
[02:24] <bigfoot1> Ubuntian, okay.
[02:25] <bigfoot1> i think it's based on keyhole, yes.
[02:25] <Seveas> it's not working
[02:25] <Seveas> just tried it
[02:26] <bigfoot1> Seveas, you just tried googleEarth with wine?
[02:27] <bigfoot1> i'm trying to get info on running GoogleEarth in linux at http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=154185&threshold=-1&mode=flat&commentsort=0&op=Change
[02:27] <Seveas> bigfoot1, yes
[02:28] <bigfoot1> Seveas, check out this link i pulled from the slashdot comments: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=3254
[02:29] <Seveas> wine in ubuntu is older than mentioned there
[02:30] <bigfoot1> oh.
[02:32] <CzarAlex> I would like to find out more about running a smtp server on my linux box so players of my moo (..like a mud) can receive emails upon player creation. Where can I find out more?
[02:33] <s1m0> hellp
[02:33] <s1m0> *hello
[02:33] <Seveas> CzarAlex, it's easy
[02:33] <Seveas> you aready run an smtp server
[02:33] <CzarAlex> Seveas, God i hope so! :)
[02:33] <CzarAlex> i do?! yay..so far
[02:33] <Seveas> CzarAlex, you just need to edit /etc/postfix/main.cf
[02:34] <Seveas> set the hostname correctly
[02:34] <CzarAlex> oh excellent. and that is already running in the background?
[02:34] <Seveas> yes
[02:34] <CzarAlex> Seveas, hostname? to what?
[02:35] <nalioth_wrkn> CzarAlex: http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Mail/   some reading for you
[02:35] <Seveas> the myhostname and mydestination parameters as well as the file /etc/mailname should include a domain name that points to your machine
[02:35] <CzarAlex> nalioth_wrkn, thank you.
[02:35] <Seveas> and then you can send e-mail from your machine
[02:35] <CzarAlex> Seveas,  a domain name huh? hm.. I didnt purchase one. and i ruined?
[02:36] <Seveas> CzarAlex, then set it to your current hostname
[02:36] <Seveas> as given by your ISP
[02:36] <Tsukasa> CzarAlex, if you have a static ip you can also use that one
[02:36] <Tsukasa> or get a redirect like from www.ath.cx
[02:36] <CzarAlex> Tsukasa, I dont but i was using dyndns.com? will that work?
[02:36] <Seveas> it's not that important, but by default it is set to localhost and not much mailservers accept mail from that
[02:37] <Tsukasa> yep
[02:37] <Tsukasa> it should work
[02:37] <Seveas> CzarAlex, yes
[02:37] <CzarAlex> okay so Ican set hostname to czar.homelinux.com
[02:37] <CzarAlex> ...no http?
[02:37] <rnasklaved> Does anyone knows how to get a US robotics networkcard to work on Ubuntu?
[02:37] <Seveas> CzarAlex, indeed
[02:38] <Seveas> CzarAlex, want an example?
[02:38] <nagual> hello
[02:38] <CzarAlex> Seveas, I -love- one.
[02:39] <nalioth_wrkn> Seveas: speakin of old macs, had a user in here with a 233mhz Powermac last night
[02:39] <Seveas> CzarAlex, http://ubuntu-nl.org/~dennis/main.cf  <-- /etc/postfix/main.cf
[02:39] <Seveas> CzarAlex, http://ubuntu-nl.org/~dennis/mailname  <-- /etc/mailname
[02:40] <Seveas> nalioth_wrkn, that's..... old
[02:40] <nalioth_wrkn> Seveas: (s)he had it scsi cabled to another old mac (that had the ubuntu disk in it) for installation
[02:40] <CzarAlex> Seveas, i used text editor to edit the main.cf file but it was read only. How do I remove that setting so i can edit it?
[02:40] <CzarAlex> (yes...im the noob of all noobs)
[02:41] <Tsukasa> launch editor by sudo
[02:41] <Seveas> CzarAlex, sudo gedit /etc/postfix/main.cf
[02:42] <dockane> ubuntu-5.04-live-powerpc.iso <-- is it the right one for 64bit ppc ?
[02:42] <CzarAlex> Seveas, and just change the /mailname file to czar.homelinux.com?
[02:42] <nalioth_wrkn> Seveas: anyway, the macintosh' is capable of things not seen by intel hardware, so i showed them a trick on how to install w/o cd or floppy (they'd bought the thing from goodwill (a resale shop))
[02:43] <nalioth_wrkn> dockane: no, you need amd64
[02:43] <dockane> nalioth_wrkn, maybe keep on working
[02:44] <nalioth_wrkn> dockane: what kind of 64bit?
[02:44] <dockane> nalioth_wrkn, ppc ?
[02:44] <dockane> nalioth_wrkn, as  i mentioned ?!
[02:44] <nalioth_wrkn> dockane: misunderstood your question, that is the correct version
[02:44] <Seveas> dockane, ues
[02:44] <dockane> nalioth_wrkn, oh i see, thought you were kidding me
[02:45] <nalioth_wrkn> dockane: i just went from nalioth_sleepin to nalioth_wrkn and havent woken up properly yet
[02:45] <Seveas> nalioth_wrkn / dockane there are no 64bit ppc cd's yet
[02:45] <CzarAlex> Seveas, you have one line in your main.cf file that i dont have. do I add it? mynetworks_style = host
[02:45] <nalioth_wrkn> Seveas: really?
[02:45] <nagual> Ubuntu on IMac G3 (keyboard issue). During install, the keyboard mapping was good (I got the @). Now (after reboot) the "@" corresponds to a "". How to fix the stuff ?
[02:46] <Seveas> CzarAlex, yes
[02:46] <CzarAlex> ok
[02:46] <dockane> Seveas, i ve got not a single idea about apple hardware ... a friend of mine wants me to introduce him to linux and i all i now about ppc is from wikipedia
[02:47] <nalioth_wrkn> dockane: that image will work fine on 64bit ppc
[02:47] <nalioth_wrkn> dockane: the only thing that won't work out of the box, is airport extreme
[02:47] <dockane> Seveas, so i was wondering about http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php to choose between 32 and 64 bit ppc architecture
[02:48] <dockane> nalioth_wrkn, i see thnx
[02:48] <CzarAlex> Seveas, Okay. Those files are properly (I think..)  edited. Silly question time (again..) How do I specify a user account? for example. Id like new players to get a mail from czar@czar.homelinux.com (atleast i think that's how itll look)
[02:48] <pluffsy> are there somewhere at ubuntu.org I can view which apps are avalible amonst the ubuntu packages?
[02:48] <nalioth_wrkn> dockane: macs have a very limited hardware pool, making them very easy to get linux workin on
[02:49] <comadreja> where's the list of wanted but unmaintained packages ?
[02:49] <nalioth_wrkn> pluffsy: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:49] <sly> Seveas back with my extra nic card ;)
[02:49] <nalioth_wrkn> comadreja: see the wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:49] <sly> now time for the headache :( , hehe :)
[02:49] <comadreja> nalioth_wrkn: where in the wiki ?
[02:50] <pluffsy> nalioth_wrkn: thank you :)
[02:50] <dockane> nalioth_wrkn, cool. sounds like easy pre conditions to make my friend interested in linux and oss with his powerbook and imac
[02:50] <nalioth_wrkn> dockane: i don't think there are ANY 64-bit PPC linux distros yet
[02:51] <nalioth_wrkn> dockane: if he's got a box with the old airport, it'll work like a charm
[02:52] <nalioth_wrkn> comadreja: go here and search the page for "develop" and "maintain" and 'package'  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TitleIndex
[02:53] <dockane> nalioth_wrkn, i think airport is not a critical point whether he will continue with mac os or is going to change to linux
[02:53] <nagual> ppc64: what about fedora fc4 ?
[02:53] <nalioth_wrkn> dockane: well, it makes a difference when ya got to drag a cat5 cable around instead of being wireless
[02:55] <nalioth_wrkn> nagual: have you used fc4 on a G5?
[02:55] <holycow> anyone have the linkage to the redhat wireless network applet they wrote and ubuntu wants to include in breezy?
[02:56] <nagual> No, I have a Imac G3, and you ?
[02:56] <nalioth_wrkn> nagual: i was just wondering if it was truly 64-bit, or they labeled it so
[02:57] <bruno> hi everyone
[02:58] <bruno> need some help
[02:58] <goldfish> whats up?
[02:58] <nagual> To check, I suppose trying to make a fc4 ppc64 should fail on a 32 bits machine
[02:59] <CzarAlex> How do I check email sent to my new host?
[03:00] <Frafra> hi all
[03:00] <CzarAlex> Hello
[03:00] <Frafra> what i must do for write on a floppy a .bin image?
[03:01] <nalioth_wrkn> nagual: we are both behind the times http://ftp.uni-augsburg.de/pub/tuxppc/test/
[03:02] <nagual> great
[03:03] <nalioth_wrkn> nagual: i'm readin up on fc4 and i see a lot of "you need to pursuade x.program to run on your G5"
[03:03] <nalioth_wrkn> lot of "this 'should' work on your G5 now"
[03:05] <nalioth_wrkn> nagual: i'd stick with ubuntu
[03:05] <nagual> I will do that too. I am switching from yellowdog to ubuntu
[03:06] <nalioth_wrkn> nagual: that's good. ydl is good, but for the RPMs.. .... <gagh>
[03:07] <Smeggy> did i see someone mention ubuntu running on a g5?
[03:08] <nagual> nalioth_wrkn:yum does its job Honestly, but the packages are old
[03:08] <nalioth_wrkn> Smeggy: nah, we're just discussing pure 64bit linux on ppc
[03:08] <Smeggy> close enough
[03:08] <Smeggy> :p
[03:08] <nalioth_wrkn> nagual: i had more trouble compiling my own stuff/installing. I just found ydl to be more pain than pleasure
[03:08] <nalioth_wrkn> Smeggy: ya got a G5?
[03:08] <Smeggy> yep
[03:09] <nalioth_wrkn> Smeggy: roll up and check out that augsburg university link
[03:09] <nalioth_wrkn> Smeggy: they got a debianPPC live and installer image up
[03:09] <nalioth_wrkn> Smeggy: in 64bit
[03:09] <Smeggy> spiffy
[03:10] <nalioth_wrkn> Smeggy: you don't ubuntu?
[03:10] <Smeggy> i use ubuntu and osx
[03:10] <Smeggy> no ubuntu on the g5 yet though, fully ubuntu on my imac and ibook though
[03:10] <Smeggy> still thinking about the g5
[03:10] <nagual> I have no more sound (OSS or ALSA), what should I start to check to fix that issue ?
[03:11] <nalioth_wrkn> Smeggy: if you want a 64bit ubuntu on your PPC, you can compile it that way
[03:11] <Smeggy> hmm, indeed
[03:11] <nalioth_wrkn> nagual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[03:12] <nalioth_wrkn> Smeggy: i'm fixin to get a imac G5, and am thinking about how i want to go about puttin buntu on it
[03:12] <Smeggy> nalioth: cool
[03:13] <Smeggy> nalioth_wrkn, what are you running atm?
[03:13] <Nameless1> i had firefox open why i got some updates and now i cant save files, i get a xml error or something. does anyone know how to fix this
[03:14] <Nameless1> XML Parasing error: syntax error location chrome://mozapps/content/downloads/downloads.xul
[03:14] <Tsukasa> did you install a new theme?
[03:15] <nagual> thank you nalioth_wrkn
[03:15] <Nameless1> me? i just did the default updates for when u install ubuntu
[03:16] <Nameless1> and i had firefox open... and i think that fuked it
[03:16] <Nameless1> whats the apt command thing to reinstall all the mozilla\firefox crap?
[03:16] <HrdwrBoB> apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[03:16] <nalioth_wrkn> Smeggy: i am currently looking at/typing on a ibook G3/600 with ubuntu
[03:17] <nalioth_wrkn> HrdwrBoB: tell im the purge sequence
[03:17] <HrdwrBoB> oh
[03:17] <HrdwrBoB> all you have to do is to restart firefox
[03:18] <Nameless1> hrdwrBoB: you are right, :) i was worried over nothin
[03:19] <HrdwrBoB> I am usually right :)
[03:19] <nagual> bye
[03:26] <nalioth_wrkn> Smeggy: ya still watchin?
[03:26] <fge> whats the java mirror adress of hoaryt
[03:27] <Seveas> fge, there is a java package in the backports
[03:27] <Tsukasa> sun-jre1.5
[03:28] <fge> i mean the url
[03:29] <budluva> anyone know where i can get a nice ubuntu ascii logo for my motd?
[03:29] <fge> ok i found iy
[03:29] <budluva> ive found a bunch of nice debian logos, but cant seem to find any for ubuntu
[03:30] <nalioth_wrkn> budluva: there is a proggy that makes ascii pR0n, er art
[03:31] <budluva> lol
[03:32] <nalioth_wrkn> budluva: really, there is a thing that converts to pix to ascii
[03:33] <nalioth_wrkn> budluva: go and read here http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2005/05/26/textonly.html
[03:33] <budluva> well im sure there is, just wanted to know if anyone knew of some good sites with ubuntu ascii art :P
[03:33] <budluva> i guess if i have to ill go convert an image
[03:33] <budluva> k thanks
[03:34] <nalioth_wrkn> budluva: that'd be the ticket, cuz then it'd be entirely your own
[03:34] <budluva> :P
[03:37] <ugw6oow> Hey, I've got a speedtouch (v4) usb modem. I've tried to follow the instructions on the wiki, but to no avail. Does anyone know of any issues with them?
[03:38] <inemo> buy an ethernet router/modem ;)
[03:38] <inemo> usb modems aren't worth the trouble
[03:38] <inemo> even with pc's they are unstable
[03:38] <ugw6oow> Thanks, but thats not an option.
[03:38] <nalioth_wrkn> ugw6oow: does it have a ethernet jack in it?
[03:38] <inemo> and they only last as long as the manufacturer supports them
[03:39] <inemo> oh, fair enough
[03:39] <ugw6oow> nalioth_wrkn: Again, no. It would have been nice. I'll probably end up buying an ethernet modem in the future, but would like to get this working in the meantime.
[03:40] <nalioth_wrkn> ugw6oow: usb modems are quite the subject here lately
[03:40] <nalioth_wrkn> ugw6oow: i havent seen a fix yet
[03:41] <moogman> Ok thanks nalioth_wrkn. I'll have a play and come back if I find any useful info
[03:41] <dmouritsendk> can anybody tell me if there is being worked on the ide problems that ubuntu are having? I (and a friend with the same mobo) had these problems for months now, google shows other mobos have them too?
[03:42] <dmouritsendk> ide problems = dma doesn't work on ATA controllers (can't enable DMA on devices thats connected to the controller via. hdparm).
[03:42] <osity> anyone know how to partition drives for a raid 1?
[03:43] <bogdan> mouse problem, i have just installed ubuntu but my mouse doesn't work, HELP pls!!
[03:44] <nalioth_wrkn> bogdan: got a backup mouse?
[03:44] <bogdan> no, my mouse woks fine, just that is not installed or something...
[03:45] <nalioth_wrkn> bogdan: really?
[03:47] <gr0bi> hi everybody... my default page in firefox is "www.heise.de" but on startup it shows "www.bvg.de" instead
[03:47] <gr0bi> any ideas why?
[03:47] <nalioth_wrkn> gr0bi: redirect?
[03:47] <bogdan> can anybody help me with my mouse ?
[03:47] <gr0bi> nalioth_wrkn, how?
[03:48] <xunil_> iam trying to fix this problem :"kxdocker: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" are libpng.so same as libpng.so.3?
[03:48] <Tsukasa> gr0bi, drag the heise.de icon from the url bar onto the home icon in firefox
[03:48] <Tsukasa> and see if it works then
[03:48] <nalioth_wrkn> gr0bi: is heise.de redirecting to bvg.de?
[03:48] <gr0bi> nalioth_wrkn, normally not
[03:48] <gr0bi> if i type it manually heise.de shows
[03:48] <nalioth_wrkn> gr0bi: well try what Tsukasa said
[03:49] <gr0bi> i do
[03:49] <gr0bi> don't work
[03:49] <jf6> what is the alternativ logiciel of Nero for Linux please
[03:49] <jf6> ?
[03:49] <jc-denton> k3b?
[03:49] <Tsukasa> jf6, nautilus burn:///
[03:49] <jf6> k3b?
[03:49] <xunil_> i think you can install nero on linux...
[03:50] <moogman> Nero has a Linux version
[03:50] <jf6> ok but a free logiciel ^^
[03:50] <moogman> But for most purposes, Nautilus should work fine :)
[03:50] <jf6> ok
[03:50] <Tsukasa> you sure about the linux port of nero?
[03:50] <jf6> i will see that , thanks a lot
[03:50] <Tsukasa> that would be great news indeed for me :)
[03:50] <moogman> jf6: Putting a blank CD-R into your drive should pop up the CD Creator box
[03:50] <nalioth_wrkn> nero sucks (it's not open source)
[03:50] <nalioth_wrkn> jf6 use k3b
[03:50] <moogman> Nero Linux - http://www.nero.com/en/NeroLINUX.html
[03:51] <gr0bi> nero is a good tool... best for windoze
[03:51] <dmouritsendk> nalioth_wrkn: yea, but it does work :p
[03:51] <bogdan> can anybody help me with my mouse ? please !
[03:51] <jf6> ok ok thanks
[03:51] <jf6> k3b
[03:51] <nalioth_wrkn> dmouritsendk: so does k3b
[03:51] <Tsukasa> CDRWin was the best until the company went bancrupt
[03:51] <gr0bi> bogdan, which mouse?
[03:51] <gr0bi> logitech?
[03:51] <zerboxx> Is there a reason why Azureus slows down if it's not the main window?
[03:51] <dmouritsendk> nalioth_wrkn, well. depends on the distro your running ;)
[03:51] <Tsukasa> bogdan, usb or ps2 mouse?
[03:51] <bogdan> my mouse doesn't work, i think is not inslalled
[03:51] <nalioth_wrkn> zerboxx: all things java
[03:51] <bogdan> the older version
[03:51] <dmouritsendk> nalioth_wrkn, if i was to run k3b where on my ubuntu install , it would work like shite
[03:52] <dmouritsendk> nalioth_wrkn, aka. be slow as hell
[03:52] <nalioth_wrkn> dmouritsendk: really? it runs fine on my PPC/ubuntu
[03:52] <zerboxx> nalioth: ...meaning that it sucks and I shouldn't use it? :)
[03:52] <dmouritsendk> nalioth_wrkn, consider urself lucky :p
[03:52] <dmouritsendk> nalioth_wrkn, afaik theres huge controller issues on ubuntu
[03:52] <dmouritsendk> nalioth_wrkn, check bugzilla and the forums
[03:53] <nalioth_wrkn> dmouritsendk: hmm, perhaps you should  buy a mac
[03:53] <nalioth_wrkn> zerboxx: there are non-java alternatives to most java proggys
[03:53] <dmouritsendk> nalioth_wrkn, naah. i have a gentoo install that works perfectly, just tried a suse to with out any problems
[03:53] <zerboxx> nalioth_wrkn: In that case, how do I uninstall, and do you recommend another bt proggy?
[03:54] <bogdan> Tsukasa, my mouse is on serial port, is that why it doesn't work ?
[03:54] <nalioth_wrkn> zerboxx: java is a hardware instensive platform (<<meaning that java uses a lot of system resources)
[03:54] <Tsukasa> bogdan, it should work anyway
[03:54] <nalioth_wrkn> zerboxx: there are many bt proggys, have you tried the new bt 4?
[03:54] <jf6> no one know Audioslave?
[03:54] <bogdan> Tsukasa, how can i install it ?
[03:54] <gr0bi> bogdan, are you sure the mouse does work anymore?
[03:55] <LuZbel> hi to everyone, can somebody help me with my internet connection? i am crazy
[03:55] <gr0bi> tried it in windows?
[03:55] <zerboxx> nalioth_wrkn: Nope, I just moved from XP and I was comfy with Az.  I'll try bt4, but how do I get rid of Az?
[03:55] <nalioth_wrkn> zerboxx: stop using it
[03:55] <bogdan> gr0bi, i'm playng here only with the keyboard... :)
[03:55] <nalioth_wrkn> zerboxx: you do have lots of HD space, right?
[03:55] <LuZbel> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46280
[03:55] <LuZbel> please take a look to my problem
[03:56] <zerboxx> nalioth_wrkn: well yeah, but why fill it up with something I wont use?
[03:56] <nalioth_wrkn> zerboxx: you remove the azureus in the reverse order you installed it
[03:57] <bogdan> gr0bi, do you know how can i install my mouse ??
[03:57] <jerome^_^> hi guys, has anybody heard or know of how ubuntu will run on an apple imac G5 ?
[03:57] <LuZbel> anyone has read?
[03:57] <gr0bi> it should be detected while the installation bodgan
[03:58] <nalioth_wrkn> jerome^_^: it should run fine on a G5
[03:58] <jerome^_^> k :)
[03:58] <bogdan> thank you for the suport !
[03:59] <jerome^_^> when download files using synaptic ... will normal .deb files work ? or will they still need to be optimised for the ppc platform ?
[03:59] <LuZbel> sorry, can anyone help me?
[03:59] <bogdan> when can i find some ops here ?
[04:00] <dmouritsendk> bogdan: i think your mouse should be installed automatically
[04:00] <nalioth_wrkn> jerome^_^: you apt know what to download
[04:00] <nalioth_wrkn> crap
[04:00] <nalioth_wrkn> jerome^_^: your machine knows what to use (via synaptic)
[04:01] <AlternativeName> can somebody help with installing my wireless usb adapter in ubuntu?
[04:01] <bogdan> dmouritsendk, i think at the same thing, but if i am here, it means it doesn't work
[04:01] <bogdan> dmouritsendk, and i am sure the mouse is fine(phisicaly)
[04:02] <comadreja> how do I store the current desktop status without login out ?
[04:02] <dmouritsendk> bogdan, the problem is, the plug and play part of ubuntu isn't especially impressive. for example, try installing ubuntu on a SATA drive and enable DMA on a optical PATA drive all hell breaks loose :p
[04:03] <grogoreo> hi
[04:03] <LuZbel> i can't connect to adsl, please help me: see forum details: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46280
[04:03] <dmouritsendk> bogdan, my advise is goto: gentoo.org , take the time to install everything manually (follow the guide) and forget the linux promise of pnp, its a pipe dream ;p
[04:03] <zerboxx> nalioth_wrkn: I got bt4, installed with the deb file, but no what do I do? The gnome-bittorrent still is used by default
[04:04] <grogoreo> for some reason when i do a badblock command on a hard drive it stops at 35
[04:04] <bogdan> dmouritsendk, thanks, i'll try there
[04:04] <CarlFK> on my RH firewall box I have a script: dhcpcd-eth0.exe to update DynDNS - whats the Ubuntu way?
[04:04] <comadreja> CarlFK : ddclient ?
[04:04] <dmouritsendk> bogdan, they wont be able to help u with ubuntu. im advising u to change distro ;p
[04:05] <The_Flyest> is it possible to make this http://www.sweex.be/product.asp?pId=412 wireless usb adapter work in ubuntu?
[04:05] <CarlFK> comadreja - I have no ddclient
[04:05] <bogdan> dmouritsendk, thanks, any way
[04:05] <comadreja> CarlFK : apt-get install ddclient :)
[04:05] <Seveas> dmouritsendk, stop being an idiot please...
[04:05] <CarlFK> comadreja - I have dhclient
[04:05] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, ?
[04:06] <comadreja> CarlFK : no, for dyndns is ddclient
[04:06] <Seveas> dmouritsendk, the last things you said rangr from incorrect to stupid...
[04:06] <Seveas> Ubuntu has very good plug-and-play support
[04:06] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, yea. right :p
[04:06] <Seveas> Mixing sata and pata is also not a problem if you know what you are doing
[04:06] <bogdan> seveas, loooooooooooooooooooooool
[04:07] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, well. aren't you countering your own statement there?
[04:07] <Seveas> dmouritsendk, no
[04:07] <pluffsy> what is the best software for syncing music on the ipod?
[04:07] <pluffsy> (on ubuntu)
[04:07] <Seveas> Mixing sata and pata is also not a problem if you know what you are doing or simply don't do any stupid things
[04:07] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, i mean, pnp that requires that you know what your doing?
[04:07] <comadreja> pluffsy : I use gtkpod
[04:07] <Seveas> (that's more complete)
[04:07] <nalioth_wrkn> zerboxx: hang on a minim
[04:07] <jerome^_^> pluffsy: gtkpod
[04:07] <zerboxx> nalioth_wrkn: Sure thing, thanks :)
[04:08] <pluffsy> thanks :)
[04:08] <Discipulus> you can learn so much by idling and watching
[04:08] <Discipulus> :-D
[04:08] <jerome^_^> pluffsy: it takes a while to get your head around though, not very similar to itunes ... doesan awesome job :)
[04:08] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, also, as i mentioned I have no problems on my gentoo install. which have been configured manually, the whole point of the ubuntu install is not to spend all the time on it
[04:08] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, configuring it all that is
[04:08] <nalioth_wrkn> zerboxx: try from a terminal "/usr/bin/btdownloadgui.py"
[04:08] <nalioth_wrkn> zerboxx: or look at your menus closely
[04:09] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, also. is there a fix for the PATA/SATA problem that doesnt involve making a custom kernel? i was under the impression there wasnt
[04:09] <Seveas> dmouritsendk, if you simply forget the gentoo way that will be the case...
[04:09] <Seveas> dmouritsendk, PATA/SATA mixing should work out of the box
[04:09] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, it doesn't for quite alot of people
[04:10] <Seveas> dmouritsendk, never heard of any problems in here, what is the problem..?
[04:10] <carina> hey, i have a question, might be a bit specific though.. I have a dell inspiron 8200, when i was using hoary, the sound wasn't working so i did something (can't remember what) to get it working and it worked fine. Am now using warty and it seems not to be working.. any clues on general fixes to get the sound working?
[04:10] <comadreja> carina: I had some issues with the sound on hoary
[04:11] <comadreja> carina: what I did was installed libesd-alsa0
[04:11] <comadreja> carina: of course having alsa working properly
[04:11] <The_Flyest> is it possible to make this http://www.sweex.be/product.asp?pId=412 wireless usb adapter work in ubuntu?
[04:11] <The_Flyest> and how?
[04:11] <comadreja> carina: then I changed /etc/asound.conf and /etc/esd/esd.conf
[04:12] <zerboxx> nalioth: No luck with the terminal, and I've searched the menus, and cannot find it
[04:12] <comadreja> or was it /etc/esound ?
[04:12] <carina> kay
[04:12] <comadreja> carina: anyway, once you have alsa working, all you have to do is pipe everything through it
[04:12] <carina> how can i check if i do
[04:12] <carina> ;)
[04:12] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24046.html or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19519  or https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11077
[04:12] <carina> i'm a little clueless
[04:13] <budluva> no its /etc/asound
[04:13] <comadreja> carina : if aplay, and arecord work...
[04:13] <zerboxx> Anyone know which ports gnome-bt uses?
[04:13] <The_Flyest> is it possible to make this http://www.sweex.be/product.asp?pId=412 wireless usb adapter work in ubuntu?
[04:13] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, btw. if you never heard about the problem, what did you mean that running sata/pata wasn't a problem is you "know what your doing"?.
[04:14] <waka> any major issues reported with the latest breezy snapshot ?
[04:14] <comadreja> budluva : I mean /etc/esound/esd.conf
[04:14] <nalioth_wrkn> zerboxx: i manually installed my bt4 into my /usr/local/bin
[04:14] <Seveas> dmouritsendk, i was refering to grub problems some people had after doing clueless things
[04:14] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, aah, okay :p
[04:14] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, sorry :p
[04:14] <budluva> comadreja, yes but you also have to edit /etc/asound correct?
[04:14] <comadreja> budluva : /etc/asound.conf
[04:14] <budluva> comadreja, your trying to get sound working (ALSA) right?
[04:14] <Seveas> and yeah, this is a bug, but not one that requires a kernel recompile
[04:14] <Seveas> simply a new hotplug entry
[04:14] <comadreja> budluva : nopes, carina
[04:15] <budluva> comadreja, ahh :P
[04:15] <Seveas> (or manually in /etc/modules)
[04:15] <zerboxx> nalioth_wrkn: I found that .py where you said, but it doesn't do anything
[04:15] <carina> comadreja, aplay doesn't seem to work
[04:15] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, btw. im pretty sure i can get it to work, the problem is i dont want to :p i feel the whole point of the ubuntu distro is this sort of thing should "just work"
[04:15] <Seveas> and afaik has nothing to do with mixing SATA/PATA but with motherboard drivers
[04:15] <nalioth_wrkn> zerboxx: did you start it from the terminal?
[04:15] <comadreja> carina: what are you giving as argument ?
[04:15] <carina> alsamixer says "Item: Master [Off] " does that mean it's turned off or does it talk about something else
[04:15] <Seveas> dmouritsendk, NOTHING can just work for things that are too new
[04:15] <Seveas> that's the same on every OS
[04:15] <budluva> carina, turn Master all the way up
[04:15] <carina> heh, i was trying with just the filename to play
[04:16] <Seveas> in this case, the hotplug maintainers should update their database (which they did already in cvs iirc)
[04:16] <comadreja> carina : yes, sorry, I meant what kind of file ?
[04:16] <zerboxx> nalioth_wrkn: Yup, it gave me an error "ImportError: cannot import name configfile"
[04:16] <budluva> carina, [Off]  means its off, turn it all the way up :P
[04:16] <carina> still says off even if i turn it all the way up
[04:16] <nalioth_wrkn> zerboxx: that's weird
[04:16] <budluva> carina, you using alsamixer
[04:16] <budluva> ?
[04:16] <carina> comadreja, .mp3?
[04:16] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, i think we talking past eachother, what i mean is what is the point of running a "plug and play" distro (as opposed to gentoo for example) if you need to configure stuff manually anyways
[04:16] <Seveas> carina, hit the m
[04:16] <Seveas> that unmutes
[04:17] <LuZbel> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46280
[04:17] <comadreja> carina : nopes, you have to give it a .wav
[04:17] <Trace> Hello, I am very instreated in hardware detection of ubuntu liveCD.
[04:17] <carina> ah i see
[04:17] <Trace> Anyidea?
[04:17] <zerboxx> nalioth_wrkn: And gnome-bittorrent is going SO slow :s
[04:17] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, also you could argue that ~1.5 year old tech isnt exactly new anymore ;p
[04:17] <Seveas> dmouritsendk, the point is that for most hardware it will work, all OS'es have problems with newer hardware
[04:17] <Seveas> if things go bad on older hardware, it's a bug, file it and it will be fixes
[04:17] <nalioth_wrkn> zerboxx: try downloading the source for bt4 and manually installing in /usr/local/bin
[04:17] <Seveas> fixed*
[04:17] <waka> any major issues reported with the latest breezy snapshot ?
[04:18] <carina> err Seveas that worked;) i wonder how on earth i managed to mute it in the first place
[04:18] <chibifs> waka - no commercial drivers.
[04:18] <Seveas> dmouritsendk, if you think gentoo is easier to configure you need a clue-implant
[04:18] <carina> is there some hotkey that mutes sound out of interest?
[04:18] <chibifs> nvidia and ati drivers fail completely.
[04:18] <waka> but it installs ok runs x etc ?
[04:18] <Seveas> carina, possibly
[04:18] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, that wasnt what i said :p
[04:19] <Seveas> dmouritsendk, i thought so :)
[04:19] <nalioth_wrkn> waka: the VESA driver probably works
[04:19] <chibifs> Well, according to that new colony cd released the other day, it should install fine :P
[04:19] <chibifs> Just no accelerated X.
[04:19] <xunil_> getting this error "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!" but i have it installed"
[04:19] <Seveas> chibifs, the colony cd is buggy as hell :)
[04:19] <waka> why do the drivers fail anyone know ?
[04:19] <chibifs> But it installs :P
[04:19] <carina> right thanks a lot
[04:19] <carina> later
[04:19] <Seveas> xunil_, intall libqt-something-dev
[04:19] <waka> thx chibifs
[04:20] <Seveas> hi, train-laptopper :)
[04:20] <chibifs> waka - compile issues against gcc4 and the kernel.
[04:20] <waka> i'm grabbing the live version atm
[04:21] <floyd_n_milan> i was wondering if Ubuntu has all the latest software available?
[04:21] <Seveas> floyd_n_milan, no, Ubuntu is a stable distribution, not a bleeding-edge one
[04:21] <floyd_n_milan> mhmmm
[04:21] <chibifs> floyd_n_milan - Close enough. Desktops are fresh
[04:21] <Seveas> backports attempt to be both and has some success
[04:21] <zerboxx> nalioth_wrkn: Any guidance with installing from source? :)
[04:21] <xunil_> Seveas do you mean libqt3-mt-dev?
[04:21] <Seveas> floyd_n_milan, but 6 months old software is never too old...
[04:21] <Seveas> xunil_, yes
[04:22] <floyd_n_milan> i was looking for something bleeding edge
[04:22] <chibifs> floyd_n_milan - The only thing I've had a problem with not having is php5.
[04:22] <floyd_n_milan> ah
[04:22] <xunil_> seveas it is installed :/
[04:22] <Seveas> floyd_n_milan, gentoo is bleeding-edge (painfully bleeding)
[04:22] <Acemi_> merhaba, ubuntu konusunda danisabilecegim bizden biri var mi?
[04:22] <floyd_n_milan> i am on Gentoo ;)
[04:22] <waka> beeding painful lol
[04:22] <Seveas> Acemi_, we speak english in here...
[04:22] <xunil_> seveas there is also a libqt3-dev
[04:22] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, no not at all, what i just tried to say (note this is not a problem, as mentioned it works on the gentoo install on my box (got both on)) but the whole point of me trying ubuntu was im tired of reading tons of docs and configuring everything manually
[04:22] <chibifs> floyd_n_milan - This is as bleeding edge as you can get while still being stable.
[04:22] <Acemi_> no...
[04:22] <floyd_n_milan> i wanted to install a distro on a friend's pc, where i can't afford to compile stuff...
[04:23] <Seveas> floyd_n_milan, then Ubuntu is the way to go
[04:23] <Seveas> very recent, but not bleeding
[04:23] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, my first encounter with ubuntu was, that pnp simply didnt work for my controller. As i said, i probertly COULD get it working, but why change then? :p
[04:23] <Seveas> and no compiling :)
[04:23] <floyd_n_milan> what about ease of use with complete newbies?
[04:23] <beginnerMKII> <--- newbie, Complicated :-/
[04:23] <Seveas> floyd_n_milan, very good
[04:23] <chibifs> Quite to very easy.
[04:23] <arentie> After I configured my wireless card via ndiswrapper, Ubuntu does not hibernate
[04:23] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, i hoped the issue would be resolved in a few weeks, i even did a bugzilla rapport and others confirmed it
[04:24] <arentie> could anyone point me in the right direction?
[04:24] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, its monts ago ;p
[04:24] <Seveas> floyd_n_milan, depends on the exoticness of the hardware, but overall almost all HW works out of the box
[04:24] <waka> chibifs...so who's gonna fix it ?
[04:24] <chibifs> In terms of Linux, anywho. The only "easier" you can get is Mandriva, which.. Really sucks in every other aspect.
[04:24] <floyd_n_milan> Seveas: hardware wouldn't be a problem
[04:24] <chibifs> waka - It will fix itself eventually :P
[04:24] <Seveas> dmouritsendk, this sort of thing cannot be resolved automagically without reinstalling, since it requires overwriting of files an upgrade should not overwrite
[04:25] <Sly> only problem ive ever had with ubuntu is the printer , it was detected ok.............. but nothing would print
[04:25] <Seveas> dmouritsendk, so for a fresh breezy it will work, for hoary not
[04:25] <nalioth_wrkn> chibifs: easier doesnt include linspire?
[04:25] <floyd_n_milan> im suppose to install the system, he's suppose to be able to use it without a problem!
[04:25] <Sly> so i banged it on the xp machine and ubuntu detected it right away as a lan printer and works fine
[04:25] <xunil_> seveas any more suggestions?
[04:25] <Seveas> nalioth_wrkn, linspire is a spawn of the devil
[04:25] <Sly> on and seveas all connected with the use of any reboot
[04:25] <dmouritsendk> Seveas,
[04:25] <Sly> without*
[04:25] <nalioth_wrkn> Seveas: yes i agree, but chibifs was mentioning 'easier'
[04:25] <Seveas> floyd_n_milan, that should be easy :)
[04:25] <chibifs> nalioth_wrkn - I refuse to accept linspire as a real distrobution :P
[04:25] <arentie> Does anyone have problems with hibernate using Ubuntu?
[04:26] <Seveas> nalioth_wrkn, linspire isn't easier
[04:26] <Seveas> it's crappier
[04:26] <floyd_n_milan> Seveas: yeah, i hope so...
[04:26] <waka> i'll try it...just a painfully slow d/l with dialup
[04:26] <Seveas> arentie, yes
[04:26] <chibifs> nalioth_wrkn - I like to look at it as a void of bull. Paying money to use apt. :/
[04:26] <Seveas> ati (fglrx) FUBAR's it for me
[04:26] <rob^> I have libdvdcss2 installed, but I'm trying to build the source for tovid and it complains about missing libdvdcss, is there a way to fix this?
[04:26] <chibifs> libdvdcss2-dev
[04:26] <Seveas> rob^, you might need libdvdcss-dev
[04:27] <rob^> Seveas, not there
[04:27] <chibifs> You need the dev package for every library you try to compile against. :/
[04:27] <rob^> I have all the repositories enabled
[04:27] <arentie> Seveas, when did you start having the problems with hibernate?
[04:27] <buzbe> any have any exprience setting default_speed of the cd burner??
[04:27] <Seveas> rob^, libdvdcss2-dev
[04:27] <Seveas> in backports
[04:27] <Seveas> arentie, it never worked
[04:27] <rob^> yeah, i have -dev too
[04:27] <rob^> still no good
[04:28] <Seveas> because of the crappy fglrx drivers
[04:28] <arentie> Seveas, it worked until I installed my wireless card using Ndiswrapper
[04:28] <Seveas> yeah, ndiswrapper is just as bd\ad
[04:28] <Seveas> bad*
[04:28] <buzbe> anyone?
[04:28] <floyd_n_milan> are the cds shipped to India?
[04:29] <Seveas> you can try ifdown wlan0; modprobe -r ndiswrapper; in the pre-hibernate script
[04:29] <Seveas> and modrobe ndiswrapper; ifup wlan0; in the post-hibernate
[04:29] <we2by> cans ome one open rr-advies.com?
[04:29] <chibifs> floyd_n_milan, Possibly, but I still haven't gotten the CD's I ordered on the 5.04 release date.
[04:29] <floyd_n_milan> mhmmm
[04:29] <we2by> I just want to know if the flash movie plays or not
[04:29] <floyd_n_milan> im bored of downloading and burning :P
[04:30] <jf6> can i do a burger in Ubuntu?
[04:30] <Seveas> we2by, the bottom one does
[04:30] <Seveas> the main one not
[04:30] <we2by> ok
[04:30] <Seveas> floyd_n_milan, yes...
[04:30] <we2by> Seveas, are u onl inux?
[04:30] <chibifs> It's... uh... 5.06 now? :P But I mean, it's free, who cares. It probably costs a bitch of money to ship here from SWEDEN.
[04:30] <Seveas> we2by, of course
[04:30] <we2by> can some one try it on windows if posible
[04:31] <arentie> Seveas, where do I find the pre and post hibernate scripts?
[04:32] <acid2> what is the url to the multiverse repo?
[04:32] <buzbe> default_speed for cd burning?
[04:32] <inemo> google.com acid2
[04:32] <nalioths_dog> acid2: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[04:33] <acid2> ooo, lovely, thanks nalioths_dog !
[04:33] <acid2> inemo, I did try google, thats why I asked here
[04:33] <inemo> ah ok then :)
[04:34] <chibifs> Oh. 5.07, sorry.
[04:34] <acid2> :)
[04:34] <chibifs> :o
[04:34] <acid2> nalioths_dog, will I be ok just deleting the contents of my sources.list and pasting that in?
[04:34] <acid2> (Brand new installation here, dont quite know my way around Ubuntu yet :P)
[04:34] <nalioth_wrkn> acid2: you can't go wrong with that
[04:35] <acid2> wonderful
[04:35] <inemo> acid2: i'm new to ubuntu as well
[04:35] <inemo> :)
[04:35] <acid2> hehe, like it?
[04:35] <zerboxx> Can anyone help to setup my Lexmark z55 printer??
[04:36] <arentie> acide 2: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[04:36] <inemo> yeah, still prefer OS X and spend most of my time in OS X, i'll be booting into linux more now I have an airport -> ethernet bridge in my room
[04:36] <budluva> zerboxx, you check the forums?
[04:36] <acid2> osx... lucky
[04:36] <acid2> :P
[04:36] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, well. i think ur more into the ubuntu community workflow that i am, but in my ears its sounds pretty weird that they wont modify hotplug scripts and such in a update, imean doesnt that mean that most hardware related bugs will prompt a reinstall?
[04:37] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, also. I take it my only option, if i want it fixed, is to do it manually or reinstall right?
[04:37] <nalioth_wrkn> acid2: how are we lucky to have OSX?
[04:37] <comadreja> I'm willing to install breezy, but I'm afraid I'll lose the backports, is that right ?
[04:37] <nalioth_wrkn> comadreja: breezy is so new, there are no backports for it
[04:38] <dmouritsendk> Seveas, which brings me back to my original statement(the one u you disliked :p), plug and play isnt impressive on linux ;p
[04:38] <acid2> nalioth_wrkn, its a nice os (imo) - but I could never afford a mac..
[04:38] <zerboxx> budluva: Yup.  From Lexmark themselves, I have drivers for "Mandrake, RH and SUSE" but I have no idea what to do with those (just to see if it works under ubuntu)
[04:38] <sproingie> dmouritsendk: i'm coming to realize that "stable" in ubuntu means no updates.  ever.  except for obvious security bugs
[04:38] <comadreja> nalioth_wrkn , I know, but can't I use hoary backports in breezy ?
[04:38] <nalioth_wrkn> acid2: mac minis are cheap
[04:38] <budluva> zerboxx, is there any debian/ubuntu drivers for your printer?
[04:38] <sproingie> dmouritsendk: they won't even change the vendor_sub in firefox
[04:38] <acid2> nalioth_wrkn, not cheap enough ;)
[04:38] <nalioth_wrkn> comadreja: a backport is a breezy era program brought BACK to hoary
[04:39] <comadreja> nalioth_wrkn : oh, cool then
[04:39] <zerboxx> budluva: sadly, no
[04:39] <dmouritsendk> sproingie, okay
[04:39] <sproingie> i'm becoming rather disenchanted, but thankfully I know what things I really need to keep up to date and do so manually
[04:39] <sproingie> as it is, i'd never inflict the badly-maintained firefox of ubuntu on my mother tho
[04:39] <nalioth_wrkn> sproingie: i don't inflict firefox on myself
[04:39] <acid2> ok guys, im not having much luck with mplayer. If I try and play a video I see a series of line with the following structure :  [radeon]  Error occurred during pci scan: Operation not permitted
[04:39] <acid2> What does this mean?
[04:40] <budluva> zerboxx, hrmm...i might not be the best help, as i use my printer on my xp machine, i've never bothered to setup my printer in nix :P
[04:40] <sproingie> nalioth_wrkn: i consider it one of the least of browser evils
[04:40] <budluva> zerboxx, you tried google? :P
[04:40] <nalioth_wrkn> sproingie: really? you've used each of the more than 2 dozen others available in ubuntu?
[04:40] <comadreja> nalioth_wrkn : to install breezy, I just have to update sources.list and upgrade, right ?
[04:40] <zerboxx> budluva: Yup, and absolutely no help
[04:41] <budluva> really?
[04:41] <budluva> thats odd
[04:41] <nalioth_wrkn> comadreja: that would be one way (but don't cry in here if your system breaks)
[04:41] <budluva> i see theres nothing in the forums either
[04:41] <comadreja> nalioth_wrkn : what would be the other way ?
[04:41] <butulin> hi guys!
[04:41] <butulin> just trying the live version
[04:41] <nalioth_wrkn> comadreja: that's the easiest way
[04:42] <butulin> and already love it
[04:42] <butulin> its a breeze!
[04:42] <sproingie> nalioth_wrkn: i'm sure someone will tell me dillo is the perfect browser.  or lynx.  i'm a realist.
[04:42] <butulin> fantastic OS!
[04:42] <nalioth_wrkn> sproingie: nah, but there are several f/oss browsers available that don't suck system as much as firefox
[04:42] <butulin> how come it is not more known?
[04:43] <pinko> I'm running debian unstable here and... it might be the gtk version, but firefox autoscroll does absolutely nothing.
[04:43] <nalioth_wrkn> butulin: we're waiting on you to spread the word
[04:43] <chibifs> Because Firefox is popularity god.
[04:43] <butulin> eheheh
[04:43] <jf6> who can send to me a tutorial to instal the nvidia driver?
[04:43] <butulin> u count on it, m8!
[04:43] <chibifs> Epiphany, Galeon, Konqeror, and Opera are all pretty decent browsers. :P
[04:43] <sproingie> ubotu: nvidia
[04:43] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:43] <butulin> i ordered a bunch of cds..
[04:44] <butulin> ...wich already came!! FREE OF CHARGE!!!
[04:44] <nalioth_wrkn> jf6: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:44] <pinko> if you don't mind running gnome, galeon is pretty nice.
[04:44] <butulin> absolutely!!
[04:44] <nalioth_wrkn> pinko: gnome isnt required, just a few gtk libs
[04:44] <jf6> Thanks
[04:44] <sproingie> galeon's all right.  i mind running gnome tho.  might be all right for the mom
[04:45] <butulin> i'll institute a Linux contest and the winners will receive some  Ubuntu CDs...
[04:45] <pinko> I thought galeon was tied to gnome inseparably
[04:45] <nalioth_wrkn> sproingie: if yer runnin ubuntu, ya have the gtklibs already
[04:45] <nalioth_wrkn> pinko: nothing in linux is 'tied' to anything
[04:45] <sproingie> nalioth_wrkn: kubuntu.  it's not like i don't know how to install gnome, but the distro sorta reflects my preference
[04:45] <nalioth_wrkn> pinko: i use kde apps under gnome all the time
[04:45] <sproingie> nalioth_wrkn: galeon uses gnome libs.  of course so does firefox
[04:46] <zdogde> hi everyone
[04:46] <Kyral> sproingie, if you wanna install Gnome, then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:46] <pinko> yeah, dependencies listed here are full of gnome libs.
[04:46] <butulin> damn! this is really cool!!
[04:46] <zdogde> i have a problem
[04:47] <spamalope> penis not working?
[04:47] <zdogde> i downloaded the latest ubuntu daily install cd but everytime the installer says that no kernel modules were found on the cd and perhabs the installer version is different from the version i want to install and so on...
[04:47] <zdogde> no penis works
[04:47] <spamalope> cool
[04:48] <pinko> that was surreal... "penis" is the alias I was just typing to signify "apt-cache search"
[04:48] <thomas__> :S
[04:48] <nalioth_wrkn> alrighty y'all i have to really go to work
[04:48] <zdogde> any idea why the daily install cd AND live cd do not work?
[04:49] <zdogde> its weird but the live cd always starts the installer and says exactly the same as the install cd...
[04:49] <butulin> zdogde: have confirmed ur downloade file? is it consistent?
[04:49] <zdogde> its consistent...
[04:50] <butulin> no burning probs?...
[04:50] <zdogde> i wonder if the developers forget to include the kernel modules?
[04:50] <zdogde> no probs
[04:50] <sproingie> nalioth_wrkn: i think back in the day when you pretty much had to be actually running gnome to use gnome, galeon depended on gnome
[04:50] <thomas__> someone who can recommend a nice IRC client ?
[04:50] <sproingie> nalioth_wrkn: i don't think that's been the case for years tho
[04:50] <butulin> thomas_: GAIM
[04:50] <Sophistication> thomas__, irssi
[04:51] <Tsukasa> thomas__, bitchx or xchat :)
[04:51] <pinko> thomas__: I like irssi a lot.  it may not be nice.
[04:51] <sproingie> theres always good old xchat
[04:51] <Sophistication> pinko, it's nice indeedy o yes it is
[04:51] <pinko> especially with mouse.pl
[04:51] <thomas__> hmm.. thanks.. I try i out.. this "x chat" thing really sucks
[04:51] <butulin> zdogde: i downloaded one copy and it worked alright for me...
[04:51] <Sophistication> whats a mouse!
[04:51] <pinko> it can fit in a little corner of my screen no problem
[04:51] <sproingie> thomas__: what's the matter with xchat?
[04:51] <butulin> why don't u order some CDs?
[04:52] <Tsukasa> I think xchat is pretty nice, not as nice as mIRC though :p
[04:52] <nalioth_wrkn> thomas__: irssi
[04:52] <floyd_n_milan> errr mIRC sucks!
[04:52] <sproingie> dear god, mirc is awful
[04:52] <nalioth_wrkn> sproingie: i have over a dozen browsers here
[04:52] <floyd_n_milan> and irssi is cool!
[04:52] <thomas__> nothing... I just don't like it :D maybe it's because I am used to miRC :D
[04:53] <zdogde> mhh so what am i doing wrong? i download it , burn it and then boot from it, the boot splash appears i press enter the installers loads up and checks my hardware then it says no kernel modules found... just like this message on this website (seems to be a debian problem not ubuntu)
[04:53] <zdogde> http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/09/msg01289.html
[04:53] <floyd_n_milan> yeah and i hate mIRC because im used to X-Chat and irssi :P
[04:53] <thomas__> I love... "loved" miRC :) guess that was the only "good" thing about windows
[04:53] <thomas__> hehe
[04:53] <Sophistication> thomas__, http://geek.j2solutions.net/shots/irssi-theme.jpg
[04:53] <pinko> I hate all the menus and visible features in an irc client
[04:54] <zdogde> butulin any idea?
[04:54] <pinko> mIRC made me avoid irc for years
[04:54] <Tsukasa> Wow, a Hong-Kong copy of the sega logo :o
[04:54] <butulin> i don't discard some corruption here, zdogde
[04:54] <Sophistication> mirc is nice for windows since xchat charges for wintel clients.
[04:54] <Nameless1> i asked for help installing cdrdoa earlier and was given a apt command to install it and i forget what it was i think it started with a    can someone help me out
[04:55] <buzbe> any one know how to speed up dvd burning in gnome
[04:55] <butulin> *file corrruption*
[04:55] <buzbe> it took 3 hours to write 2 gigs yesterday!
[04:55] <thomas__> sophistication, this irris looks pretty nice :D
[04:55] <James_Ward> Morning, I am upgrading from woody, when I'm getting:   ubuntu-base: Depends: libc6-i686 but it is not going to be installed
[04:55] <James_Ward>                Depends: locales but it is not going to be installed
[04:55] <James_Ward> E: Broken packages
[04:55] <arentie> does anyone know how to use vpnc?
[04:55] <floyd_n_milan> thomas__: maybe you can try kvirc
[04:56] <zdogde> you mean my iso file is corrupt, butulin?
[04:56] <Sophistication> thomas__, If powerful things don't scare you, I'm more than sure you will <3'b it very much.
[04:56] <thomas__> I will give it a try ;)
[04:56] <Tsukasa> buzbe, you may want to try to enable burnproof to gain higher max rates
[04:56] <buzbe> hmmm
[04:56] <buzbe> done that
[04:56] <thomas__> :D
[04:56] <buzbe> it was just taking ages
[04:57] <buzbe> does it automatically slow down if burnproof is off?
[04:57] <butulin> zdogde: i could bet on that...
[04:57] <James_Ward> Anyone able to help my woody upgrade?  :-)
[04:58] <butulin> i mean, it is not unusual...
[04:58] <Tsukasa> buzbe, sometimes
[04:58] <Tsukasa> depends on the configuration of your system
[04:58] <butulin> if u order CDs, u'll have them in a month...
[04:58] <butulin> it happened with me...
[04:59] <butulin> now i'm willing to share them away!
[04:59] <butulin> ;)
[04:59] <zdogde> ;)
[04:59] <butulin> hmm...
[05:00] <thomas__> okay... I have upgradet and updated and installed the nvidia drivers... and everything works just fine... now I want some media players.. but I can't make up my mind ? Xine or mplayer ?
[05:00] <butulin> i've been reading that post u pasted up here, zdogde
[05:00] <James_Ward> Can anyone help this:   ubuntu-base: Depends: libc6-i686 but it is not going to be installed
[05:00] <James_Ward>                Depends: locales but it is not going to be installed
[05:00] <James_Ward> E: Broken packages
[05:00] <zdogde> and found a solution? butulin
[05:01] <butulin> what it says there seems to me the prob could be caused by file corruption on some mirrors...
[05:01] <zdogde> mhh then i maybe download and install the 5.04 release...
[05:02] <butulin> yep!!
[05:02] <Tsukasa> thomas__, xine
[05:02] <butulin> i'd highly advise that!! :)
[05:02] <zdogde> ok thanks for your help butulin :)
[05:03] <butulin> well, i better get going, spread the word... :)
[05:03] <thomas__> but why not mplayer :P ?
[05:03] <butulin> np zdogde m8
[05:03] <Shuddertrix> thomas__: I can't seem to tell a difference between the two when watching a dvd, so it's just a personal prefrence.. I have xine and mplayer installed
[05:03] <Tsukasa> it's just as Shuddertrix said
[05:03] <thomas__> hmm... guess I install both..
[05:03] <Shuddertrix> If you have the space (non-space conscious), use both
[05:04] <Shuddertrix> I like mplayer for it's vast amount of options
[05:04] <Shuddertrix> I'm sure xine has the same, but i've never bothered.
[05:04] <cikilin> hello
[05:04] <thomas__> :D thanks
[05:04] <highvoltage> cikilin: hello
[05:04] <cikilin> how to burn a dvd with gnome-baker?
[05:04] <thomas__> maybe I should try wolfenstein ET :D
[05:05] <thomas__> does it work well on ubuntu ?
[05:07] <cikilin> can anybody help me to burn a dvd?
[05:08] <spamalope> have dvd burner?
[05:08] <spamalope> and not trying to copy a movie
[05:08] <thomas__> kind of empty here :S
[05:09] <Sophistication> thomas__, et is nice in most every distro that you can understand already
[05:09] <thomas__> okay..
[05:09] <neo12> bonjour
[05:09] <spamalope> que pasa
[05:10] <thomas__> is it a good idea to install nvidia-glx-settings ?
[05:10] <indypende> someone have installed a good GUI for CLAMAV??
[05:10] <neo12> labass
[05:10] <indypende> PLEASE, IT'S important
[05:11] <spamalope> indypende: google
[05:11] <indypende> spamalope, not one!
[05:11] <CarlFK> indypende - yes, someone has. ;)
[05:11] <spamalope> or look on the site
[05:11] <indypende> spamalope, i have try it all on clamav.net
[05:12] <indypende> CarlFK, tell me more...
[05:12] <spamalope> well im not going to look for you
[05:12] <spamalope> but i bet there is one
[05:12] <Blue_Summer> anyone know on cedega why: on cedega, i get no sound, too laggy and the resolution is fucked on steam ( not the game)
[05:12] <indypende> spamalope, i try, sure!
[05:13] <indypende> i try AVScan CLAMTK .... everything suggested on clamav.net
[05:14] <sinope> say, i have a question
[05:14] <sinope> who in the hell names the releases?
[05:14] <sinope> and what are they smoking?
[05:14] <nalioth_wrkn> indypende: have you tryed klamav?
[05:14] <indypende> ubuntu=gnome
[05:14] <Blue_Summer> sinope,  i agree!
[05:14] <indypende> nalioth_wrkn, ubuntu=gnome
[05:15] <nalioth_wrkn> sinope: you are not looking forward to 'stinky skunk' ?
[05:15] <sinope> i mean... "hoary hedgehog" ?????
[05:15] <indypende> nalioth_wrkn, klamav it's for kde
[05:15] <nalioth_wrkn> indypende: klamav will work under gnome
[05:15] <comadreja> my touchpad, converts a tap into a middle-button click, how can I change it to a left-button one ?
[05:15] <Blue_Summer> i mean... "warty hedgehog" ????
[05:15] <sinope> at least "grumpy groundhog" is sort of cute
[05:15] <Tsukasa> wait for "horny horse"
[05:15] <sinope> hoary just sounds dirty
[05:15] <Blue_Summer> lol
[05:16] <Blue_Summer> when is the next version of ubuntu comin out what what is it gonna be called?
[05:16] <Tsukasa> Breezy Badger
[05:16] <Tsukasa> will be the next one
[05:16] <sinope> if it were up to me, i would name the releases "1", "2", "3", and so on
[05:16] <sinope> i guess i'm a radical that way
[05:16] <Blue_Summer> Tsukasa,  Breezy Badger.. i hope your joking..
[05:17] <sinope> Blue_Summer: i wish he were.
[05:17] <sinope> Blue_Summer: it most definitely is breezy badger
[05:17] <Blue_Summer> sinope,  thats just not cool enough
[05:17] <Blue_Summer> if it where up to be id called it ubuntu: sexual harrasment panda addition
[05:17] <Blue_Summer> i'd
[05:17] <sinope> hahaha
[05:17] <Tsukasa> I want a release called "Parachute Python"
[05:17] <sinope> ubuntu 3.0 ....wouldn't that be great
[05:18] <Blue_Summer> lol
[05:18] <Blue_Summer> Tsukasa,  u make that up?
[05:18] <Tsukasa> ubuntu is at version 5.x now you know...
[05:18] <DJHasis> Does anyone know how to configure Gnome's vnc-server in terminal
[05:18] <sinope> Tsukasa: where is this number hidden? i haven't seen it
[05:18] <Blue_Summer> sinope,  u got served lol
[05:18] <Tsukasa> Behind the names
[05:18] <sinope> .....
[05:18] <Tsukasa> System -> About Ubuntu
[05:18] <Blue_Summer> ubuntu 5.04 = hoary hedgehog
[05:18] <Tsukasa> Welcome to Ubuntu Linux 5.04
[05:19] <sinope> oh....... right!  i knew that
[05:19] <sinope> :P
[05:19] <sinope> okay, so my mission becomes clear
[05:19] <comadreja> my touchpad converts a tap into a middle-button click, how can I change it to a left-button one ?
[05:19] <sinope> i must assassinate whoever comes up with the names
[05:19] <Tsukasa> I think they have a program for that purpose
[05:19] <sinope> comadreja: preferences > mouse ?
[05:19] <Blue_Summer> sinope,  i shall help you.
[05:19] <Tsukasa> it randomly mixes 2 strings from google
[05:20] <Tsukasa> and tada, new release name ;)
[05:20] <Blue_Summer> lol
[05:20] <sinope> heh
[05:20] <Blue_Summer> gonna restart gnome is damn ugly gonna use xfce 4brb
[05:20] <DJHasis> Is it possible to configure gnome's vnc-server with terminal?
[05:20] <adam_> hi, can anyone help with an apache question?
[05:21] <Tsukasa> DJHasis, tried to edit /etc/vnc.conf?
[05:21] <DJHasis> thanks
[05:21] <adam_> I've installed apache2 from the add/rmove packages applet, but when I load in http://localhost
[05:21] <adam_> i get only  a permissions denied page
[05:22] <cajun> i have an issue.   I use Tbird as by email reader and whenever I click on an email link, if Tbird is already open, Ubuntu wants to open another instance of the program instead of just creating a new Compose window in the current running instance
[05:22] <cajun> does anyone have any idea how i can fix this?
[05:22] <adam_> namely, "403 Forbidden"
[05:22] <sinope> cajun: i don't have a fix, but if you find one, let me know ;) i've been trying for a while
[05:23] <sinope> cajun: hint: it will have something to do with the -remote option
[05:23] <Tsukasa> adam_, sounds like you have to set permissions for that directory
[05:23] <Tsukasa> or check if it exists
[05:23] <cajun> i've been to #thunderbird but no one helped me
[05:23] <Tsukasa> the htdocs, that is
[05:23] <adam_> hi tsukasa, thanks
[05:23] <sinope> adam_: go to /var/www and look at the permissions
[05:23] <adam_> of whcih, 'www'
[05:23] <sinope> yes
[05:23] <adam_> or of the document root
[05:23] <sinope> and its contents
[05:23] <sinope> www is the document root
[05:23] <sinope> i think
[05:24] <cajun> what's the /command for sending someone a private msg inside the current window?
[05:24] <cajun> i keep forgetting it
[05:24] <sinope> cajun: /msg
[05:24] <adam_> ok, owner of 'www' is me, but group is root
[05:24] <nalioth> cajun: /notice <nick> msg
[05:24] <sinope> adam_: those are both wrong
[05:24] <cajun> ah ok
[05:24] <DJHasis> Tsukasa: Do you also know how can I start the vnc-server?
[05:24] <adam_> ahh... advice?
[05:24] <adwait> hello ppl.....can somebody tell me which port does apt-get use?
[05:24] <sinope> adam_: it should be www-data:www-data
[05:24] <adam_> i also do not have a folder "htdocs"
[05:24] <sinope> adam_: that's fine
[05:25] <adwait> DJHasis: vnc_server......isnt tht used for remote desktop?
[05:25] <scanwinder> how do i get myth TV to work? i get some mysql database error...i googled it and found something about having 2 set the root mysql password....ive followed instructions but nothing seems to wrok
[05:25] <DJHasis> yes
[05:25] <adam_> so, should I change the file group to my user name?
[05:25] <DJHasis> adwait: I want to use ssh and vnc with my linux
[05:25] <adwait> DJHasis: try System>Preferences>Remote Desktop
[05:26] <Blue_Summer> anyone know where i can get drivers for geforece fx 5200? (linux drivers plz :P )
[05:26] <chibifs> o.o.. Gnome can be made to look exactly like XFCE, aside from the system monitor, but whatever, Blue. :P
[05:26] <Blue_Summer> lol
[05:26] <Blue_Summer> its the horrible grey bar at the top and bottem i cant stand chibifs
[05:26] <chibifs> I perfer xfce as well, but I still end up using Meta/expocity with it.
[05:27] <adwait> Blue_Summer: u can remove those "horrible" bars u know.........right click and delete panel
[05:27] <DJHasis> adwait: I am not at home now so I have connected by ssh to it and I want to see my screen also
[05:27] <chibifs> Then make the bars into a single box. Gnome's panel is incredibly flexible.
[05:27] <Shuddertrix> Blue_Summer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:27] <Blue_Summer> kk ty
[05:27] <Blue_Summer> lol chibifs
[05:27] <Blue_Summer> but its easier with xfce ;)
[05:28] <Blue_Summer> plus i can right click with programs soo... :P
[05:28] <adam_> awesome, thanks it worked!!
[05:28] <adwait> DJHasis: ok.....so u need to enable it now? by commandline?
[05:28] <adam_> but not by changing to www-data:www-data
[05:28] <sinope> adam_: what did you do, then
[05:28] <jamey3> I've ruined my apt sources.list, where can I restore the default one?
[05:28] <adam_> i set the www folder permissions to 'group' execute and read
[05:28] <chibifs> Not much. :P
[05:28] <DJHasis> adwait: Yes
[05:28] <sinope> adam_: :) okay
[05:29] <adam_> others, execute
[05:29] <sinope> adam_: now that i look, mine is root:root
[05:29] <adam_> cool
[05:29] <LuZbel> can anyone help me with my ubuntu? take a look: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46280
[05:29] <adam_> i'm just happy i can now do HTML & PHP stuff
[05:29] <LuZbel> can anyone help me with my ubuntu? take a look: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46280
[05:29] <sinope> adam_: you can let everyone read it... after all, it's going on the internet :P
[05:29] <jamey3> LuZbel, don't keep repeating
[05:29] <LuZbel> sorry
[05:29] <LuZbel> was an error
[05:29] <adam_> Ok, i have 1 more "general" linux question
[05:29] <LuZbel> pressing keyboard
[05:29] <nalioths_dog> jamey3: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[05:30] <adam_> when I wish to restart or shutdown, should I be concerned with "Save Current Options" checkbox ?
[05:30] <adam_> what does that do?
[05:30] <Blue_Summer> brb
[05:30] <DJHasis> Does anyone know how to start gnome's vnc-server by commandline
[05:30] <jamey3> nalioths_dog, thanks immensely!
[05:30] <nalioth> adam_: that saves your session "as is" so you can get right back into it, i believe
[05:30] <jamey3> nalioths_dog, where does everyone know this stuff from?
[05:30] <zenlunatic> is the next gnome 3.0?
[05:30] <nalioth> jamey3: i have it in a script in the dogs head
[05:31] <adam_> nalioth, does that mean, that if i don't choose that option, the folder settings I just change will be gone on next boot or logout?
[05:31] <jamey3> nalioth, LOL
[05:31] <Tsukasa> DJHasis, I think when you enable Remote Desktop option in ubuntu it gets started automatically
[05:31] <DJHasis> Tsukasa: How can I enable it by commandline
[05:32] <adwait> DJHasis: there seems to be no way of doing this remotely
[05:32] <nalioth> adam_: i think it means that however many programs you are running, and the docs you are editing (if any) will all come back up if you click 'save session'
[05:32] <LuZbel> i cant connect to internet with my usb adsl modem.
[05:32] <DJHasis> damn
[05:32] <DJHasis> I just am not at home
[05:32] <adam_> oh, i get it now, thanks Nalioth
[05:32] <adwait> DJHasis: vino-preferences is the commadn........but u need access to the display for it to work
[05:32] <adam_> thanks to this room too, i got 2 problems solved so FAST!!!
[05:33] <adam_> see everyone later- enjoy your day - Adam
[05:35] <Blue_Summer> lo all
[05:36] <Blue_Summer> can anyone give me the link to the howto to install graphic drivers again plz?
[05:37] <nalioth> Blue_Summer: is this what you're looking for ?
[05:37] <nalioth> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:37] <Blue_Summer> yes ty :P
[05:38] <zendak> also, for nvidia specifically: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[05:38] <Blue_Summer> ty :)
[05:38] <Blue_Summer> anyone here use cedega and think thats its very laggy?
[05:38] <nalioths_dog> zendak: Please do not advise ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead.  Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[05:38] <zendak> sorry, will do
[05:39] <larsrohdin> hi, i can't connect to any peers or seeds with bittorrent in ubuntu. the same .torrent works perfect in windows...
[05:39] <Tsukasa> DJHasis, it just crossed my mind, but did you try to connect to your computer with a x-server client yet?
[05:39] <Blue_Summer> what does it say Tsukasa ?
[05:40] <redney> what is the location of the configured kernel source in ubuntu?
[05:40] <qos> so, does anyone know how to read icq away messages with kopete?
[05:40] <Tsukasa> redney, /usr/src/
[05:40] <redney> thx
[05:41] <Tsukasa> it's still packed though
[05:42] <Gourami> Hi I am trying to use wall to send a scheduled message to the current user via a cron job, however I can only get wall to display the message if the user has a terminal open, is there any way to display the message without a terminal ?
[05:42] <Tsukasa> Gourami, hardly
[05:43] <Gourami> Is there anything I can use then besides wall ?
[05:43] <Tsukasa> maybe mail him
[05:43] <Gourami> its a shutdown notification so mail is a bit dodgy
[05:44] <Tsukasa> yeah, that's true indeed
[05:44] <{Seb}> just out of interest
[05:44] <Tomcat__> Gourami: You should schedule your downtimes earlier so a mail is enough :)
[05:44] <{Seb}> do many people have a brown coloured desktop?
[05:45] <nalioth> {Seb}: that is the default
[05:45] <{Seb}> i know it is
[05:45] <Tsukasa> mine is grey because grey is nice
[05:45] <Tsukasa> :p
[05:45] <{Seb}> i'm just wondering whether many people stick to it or go with something else
[05:45] <Gourami> Tomcat__ in theory yes, I just want to be covered so I dont get flack from a user
[05:46] <Tomcat__> :)
[05:46] <Tsukasa> Gourami, can't you kill all their windowmanagers and send them the message afterwards? :o
[05:46] <nalioth> {Seb}: personally, i prefer function over form (means that i have the default look)
[05:46] <Gourami> well by then its too late to warn them hehe
[05:47] <Gourami> I will have to schedule the shutdown for an hour or two later just to be on the safe side
[05:47] <Tomcat__> {Seb}: http://art.gnome.org/backgrounds/gnome/1075 <--- I got this one... can't go with the brown one too long. :)
[05:47] <Tomcat__> {Seb}: Plus, the brown desktop bg doesn't match with my E17 theme. :o
[05:48] <Gourami> anyone here got the random background script working ?
[05:48] <{Seb}> what is E17?
[05:48] <Mestapheles> hi all
[05:48] <{Seb}> Tomcat_:?
[05:48] <synd> {Seb}, a desktop manager, like gnome
[05:49] <nalioth> Gourami: you mean ranwp.sh?
[05:49] <Tomcat__> {Seb}: http://www.enlightenment.org/
[05:49] <nalioth> {Seb}: you can get enlightenment from the repos using apt
[05:49] <Gourami> yas nalioth
[05:49] <Gourami> yes even
[05:50] <{Seb}> Tomcat_: why use it?
[05:50] <Mestapheles> has anyone tried the "Ubuntu/Debian-Sarge Mini-RAM HOWTO" on a P1?
[05:50] <Tomcat__> {Seb}: I have a theme of it, I use it because it looks good. :o
[05:50] <nalioth> Gourami: it worked just fine til i got some pix with blank spaces in their names
[05:50] <adwait> can anybody suggest a good p2p software for downloading music?
[05:50] <nalioth> Gourami: however if you google ranwp.sh, you'll find variants of it, that are sposed to work with blank spaces
[05:50] <{Seb}> adwait: PyMusique for legal music
[05:50] <adwait> or....can anyone tell me where i can get the fasttrack plugin for gift?
[05:51] <{Seb}> adwait: or LimeWire
[05:51] <nalioth> adwait: amule, emule, gtk-gnutella, bittorrent, dc++, and more
[05:51] <nalioth> adwait: i don't advise any java stuff
[05:51] <adwait> actually i would prefer a fasttrack client.......because i downloaded indian music, and mostly everyone here uses kazaa
[05:51] <Tsukasa> adwait: I second LimeWire
[05:51] <Gourami> nalioth I have tried it, and no matter white file I use as a background, I always get my current background replaced with a brown screen
[05:51] <adwait> can i apt-get the fastrack plugin for gift?
[05:51] <nalioth> adwait: gtk-gnutella uses the same network as limewire (and it doesnt phone home)
[05:52] <spike> Gourami: u can use xmessage
[05:52] <nalioth> Gourami: hmmm, mine worked until i got the blank spaces involved
[05:52] <Tomcat__> Gourami: When I log in, yes, but after that it changes to my set desktop image.
[05:52] <LuZbel> i cant connect to internet with my usb adsl modem. deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[05:52] <LuZbel> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[05:52] <LuZbel> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted universe multiverse
[05:52] <LuZbel> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted universe multiverse
[05:52] <LuZbel> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[05:52] <LuZbel> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[05:52] <nalioth> Gourami: havent tried the variants, yet
[05:52] <LuZbel> sorry
[05:53] <Miks> how can i add an email applet in the gnome panel?
[05:53] <Iaidoka> How do I make so that my USB-drive (sandisk cruzer) is automounted and shown on the desktop just like cds and and my usb HD?
[05:53] <Miks> because ubuntu doesnt have it
[05:54] <Strife> Miks: sudo apt-get install mail-notification
[05:54] <Blue_Summer> how do u change ur font/ colour in gaim because it changes it after ive said something once
[05:54] <Miks> thanks striffe
[05:54] <Strife> that's a better mail applet anyway :)
[05:54] <Gourami> Tomcat__ so when you login you get plain brown background and then it runs after that ?
[05:54] <Blue_Summer> forget my question guys
[05:55] <Tomcat__> Gourami: I get a plain brown background, but when Gnome has started the desktop changes to the background wallpaper I mentioned.
[05:55] <Gourami> hmmm ok
[05:55] <jeroen_> Tomcat__, that's normal
[05:56] <Tomcat__> jeroen_: Yeah I know... Gourami is asking :D
[05:56] <macewan> whats a kde app for converting audio cd to mp3? don't use kde so not sure what to recommend to wife
[05:56] <jeroen_> Tomcat__, ah, okay :-) Gourami just change the 'solid colour'
[05:56] <Strife> macewan: you should recomend that she uses GNOME ;)
[05:57] <macewan> ;)
[05:57] <Strife> macewan: seriously though, you can use GNOME apps in KDE and vice versa
[05:57] <Strife> there's really no strong reason to want to use one over the other solely, especially if one app happens to be better
[05:57] <apollo2011> I am using Reiserfs for my system root partition on Ubuntu and I noticed that on bootup, it loads the fs read-only and therefore doesn't do a journal replay.  Is there anything I can do to allow it to do a journal replay?
[05:57] <Strife> for example, I use kile for latex editing
[05:57] <Strife> because it's the best one out there
[05:58] <s0lid> hi guys i got a problem i can't put my resolution to 1024X768
[05:58] <Strife> who cares if it's a KDE app?
[05:58] <s0lid> my video card is a s3virge dx 1mb
[05:58] <s0lid> pci
[05:58] <Tomcat__> If you could run apps only on one WM, we'd have a serious problem in the Open Source world... that'd be just like Microsoft. :)
[05:58] <s0lid> in windows it can go at 1024x768
[05:58] <Tomcat__> However, do GTK apps still look crap in KDE and vice versa? :P
[05:58] <Strife> s0lid: does your xorg.conf allow it?
[05:58] <nalioth> s0lid: have you edited your xorg.conf?
[05:58] <Strife> Tomcat__: yes, indeed
[05:58] <Tomcat__> I heard you can use themes to get around that...
[05:58] <{Seb}> this is a nice back: http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=368&original=1&c=popimages&orderby=rating
[05:59] <Strife> Tomcat__: although, KDE has a nice feature where you can make GTK apps look (mostly) like the current Qt theme
[05:59] <s0lid> Strife, yes
[05:59] <s0lid> nalioth, yes
[05:59] <Strife> I kinda wish that GNOME had that too
[05:59] <s0lid> nalioth, im experimenting it
[05:59] <Tsukasa> s0lid, disable xfree86-dga
[05:59] <s0lid> nalioth, i tried to put out other resolution and only put 1024
[05:59] <s0lid> Tsukasa, how can i do that?
[05:59] <nalioth> Tsukasa: hoary doesnt use xfree86
[06:00] <Tsukasa> nalioth, it's a module of extmod anyway
[06:00] <Tsukasa> and it's causing some trouble
[06:00] <s0lid> o yes im using hoary
[06:00] <Strife> s0lid: so what exactly is happening if you can't get that resolution? is it too high a resolution or too low?
[06:00] <nalioth> Tsukasa: why dont you suggest reconfiguring first?
[06:00] <s0lid> Strife, the highest resolution i can go is 800x600
[06:00] <Tsukasa> nalioth, you can do this with just one edit in the xorg.conf :)
[06:00] <Strife> even with 1024x768 in the options?
[06:01] <BollocksMacenzie> Would this command work in bash script? If /dev/hdc exist then
[06:01] <s0lid> i used the driver s3virge and in depth 24 the mode is only "1024x768"
[06:01] <Strife> s0lid: have you tried changing resolutions with ctrl-alt-+?
[06:01] <nalioth> Tsukasa: okee
[06:01] <s0lid> Strife, im trying it now but nothing happens
[06:01] <Strife> s0lid: k
[06:01] <Strife> just worth a shot, I gues
[06:01] <Strife> guess*
[06:01] <s0lid> :)
[06:02] <Strife> s0lid: can you get 1024 if you use a more generic driver?
[06:02] <jamey3> nalioths_dog, I updated my sources.list with the pastebin one you gave me. (I also ran apt-get update.) But now I want to add extra repositories (as shown here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories) but I can't figure what I should add. Before, I ended up with many duplicates and errors.
[06:03] <s0lid> Strife, hmmm... what video driver can i use for that
[06:03] <s0lid> s3?
[06:03] <nalioth> jamey3: please stay away from ubuntuguide
[06:03] <Strife> well I meant like the vesa driver or something
[06:03] <Strife> or whatever it's called
[06:03] <s0lid> so should i change it to vesa?
[06:03] <jamey3> nalioth, why?
[06:03] <nalioth> s0lid: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:03] <Strife> a type of driver that generically works with most video cards to provide rudiumentary graphics
[06:03] <Strife> s0lid: yeah, try what nalioth says firs
[06:03] <Strife> first*
[06:03] <nalioth> s0lid: choose VESA and the resolutions you want
[06:03] <jiyuu0> nalioth, what's wrong with ubuntuguide?
[06:03] <jamey3> ditto
[06:04] <Shuddertrix> jamey3: according to the Wiki, the same information is in the wiki but is much better and updated.
[06:04] <nalioths_dog> jamey3: Please do not advise ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead.  Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[06:04] <Strife> Jimbob: ubuntuguide is completely unofficial, not to mention that it doesn't get into very much detail
[06:04] <nalioth> jamey3: the dog has spoken
[06:04] <Shuddertrix> yeah, that's the one
[06:04] <Strife> I mean jiyuu0
[06:04] <apollo2011> I am using Reiserfs for my system root partition on Ubuntu and I noticed that on bootup, it loads the fs read-only and therefore doesn't do a journal replay.  Is there anything I can do to allow it to do a journal replay?
[06:04] <jamey3> oh I see...
[06:04] <jamey3> why the hell is ubuntuguide linked to from the official site?
[06:04] <nalioth> jiyuu0: you can read that URL, also
[06:04] <jiyuu0> i've read...
[06:04] <Strife> jamey3: because it's not *bad*, it's just not a good place for in-depth informaiton
[06:05] <jamey3> wtf though, if the Wiki is better, just recommend there
[06:05] <jamey3> take down bloody ubuntuguide.org
[06:05] <jamey3> it's a menace!"
[06:05] <jamey3> j/k
[06:05] <Strife> meh
[06:05] <Strife> I say, if a shorter thing can help you at first, you may as well look there to begin with
[06:05] <jiyuu0> i just wonder if it's so bad... how come i get so much good words bout it
[06:05] <Strife> the wiki is great for more in depth stuff
[06:06] <nalioth> jamey3: the URL explains
[06:06] <Strife> but the guide is good for just getting started with things
[06:06] <Tsukasa> jiyuu0, as Strife said it's good for beginners
[06:06] <jiyuu0> today i've seen so many ppl here say ubuntuguide is crap
[06:06] <nalioth> jiyuu0: in #ubuntu we see a lot of users who are hosed because of ubuntuguide
[06:06] <jamey3> but if it presents misguided or "wrong" instructions, newbies are hurting themselves
[06:06] <jamey3> (like myself!)
[06:06] <jiyuu0> i can't make everybody happy
[06:06] <Strife> jamey3: right
[06:06] <jamey3> lol you don't have to
[06:06] <jiyuu0> it's workin fine for many ppl
[06:07] <jamey3> true
[06:07] <jamey3> anyway, can someone help me...
[06:07] <s0lid> ok i'll try to restart brb
[06:07] <Strife> jamey3: honestly, I only recommend it for people who have linux experience already, because then they actually know what the commands it tells you to do are doing
[06:07] <jamey3> I want a default sources.list
[06:07] <nalioths_dog> jamey3: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[06:07] <jamey3> Strife, I understand every command on ubuntuguide.org... but I still consider myself a newbie
[06:07] <jamey3> nalioths_dog, I have. And now I want the "extra" or unsupported sources
[06:08] <jamey3> but ubuntuguide.org presumes you are using the default sources.list
[06:08] <nalioth> jamey3: you asked for a default sources.list
[06:08] <Shuddertrix> jamey3: I think that sources.list already has all that..?
[06:08] <Tsukasa> man, why would anyone have more repositories than the official ones and the backports in his sources.list?
[06:08] <nalioth> jamey3: using the 'unofficial' sources can cause your system to grind to a halt
[06:08] <Tsukasa> too much stuff messes everything up
[06:09] <jamey3> nalioth, most of the packages I want are on the "unofficial" sources
[06:09] <jamey3> Tsukasa, so what do you do?!
[06:09] <nalioth> jamey3: like what for instance?
[06:09] <Tsukasa> I'm fine with the backports
[06:09] <jamey3> backports
[06:09] <jamey3> ?
[06:09] <jamey3> sorry for excess \n's, just itchy fingers
[06:10] <Tsukasa> the backports are a really nice huge archive of software
[06:10] <nalioth> jamey3: i recommend that if you 'need" proggys, to put backports in yoru sources, but comment it out, until you are actively getting the program you want (then comment it back again)
[06:10] <Tsukasa> almost everything you need
[06:10] <Strife> the backports are AWESOME
[06:10] <Tsukasa> they're missing glGo though :p
[06:10] <vido> hello
[06:11] <jamey3> what's the difference between the backports and universe (or whatever)?
[06:11] <jamey3> hello vido
[06:11] <Tsukasa> backports are... uh "semi official"
[06:11] <Tsukasa> dunno
[06:11] <nalioth> jamey3: backports are future ubuntu programs "BackPorted" to hoary
[06:11] <Burgundavia> jamey3, backports are exactly that
[06:11] <Tsukasa> but at least it's a load of software
[06:11] <Burgundavia> universe is non-support software
[06:11] <jamey3> oh I see
[06:11] <nalioth> jamey3: universe and multiverse are unsupported by ubuntu
[06:11] <jamey3> so backports is "better" than universe/multiverse?
[06:12] <Strife> just out of curiosity, has anyone used RedHat's NetworkManager program?
[06:12] <Tsukasa> jamey3, no
[06:12] <jamey3> oh :/
[06:12] <jamey3> what then? :D
[06:12] <Nameless1> can i get some help, you can see my error at http://nameless1.com/ on the main page
[06:12] <Tsukasa> as stated already it's nice to have them all in the list :)
[06:12] <Burgundavia> jamey3, no
[06:12] <Burgundavia> jamey3, they are different things
[06:12] <nalioth> jamey3: backports are the programs we will be using in breezy badger (ubuntu 5.10)
[06:12] <nalioth> jamey3: but we are using them NOW on hoary
[06:12] <Burgundavia> jamey3, there are 4 parts of Hoary main/restricted/universe/multiverse
[06:13] <Burgundavia> those are official, but some are non-supported
[06:13] <Burgundavia> backports is non-offiical and non-supported
[06:13] <Tsukasa> some of the programs from the backports are somewhat unstable
[06:13] <Tsukasa> so beware
[06:13] <Shuddertrix> Nameless1: esd is probably running and that's what's making arts not wanting to run.
[06:13] <Strife> backports are great because you keep the workingness of hoary but you get up-to-date software
[06:13] <Burgundavia> although backports is going to become official RSN
[06:13] <Strife> largely
[06:13] <jamey3> so why is everyone so wary of using the multiverse/universe but then recommend I use backports!?
[06:13] <Strife> backports already is officially sponsored
[06:13] <jamey3> oh
[06:13] <Burgundavia> jamey3, that would be the other way around
[06:13] <Nameless1> i was told to turn off esd earlier and that didnt stop it but ill try it again, whats the command... just tried kill esd and that didnt work
[06:14] <nalioth> jamey3: i have never recommended backports
[06:14] <Shuddertrix> Nameless1: At least, I think. If you start up to KDE, esd doesn't load up it seems so arts works.
[06:14] <jamey3> Burgundavia, someone told me to use backports instead ^^^
[06:14] <Burgundavia> Strife, they haven't moved onto the official servers yet, and they are not yet offiical sponsored
[06:14] <Burgundavia> jamey3, they were wrong
[06:14] <Nameless1> ill login kde now to test it
[06:14] <Nameless1> brb
[06:14] <jamey3> ok thanks Burgundavia
[06:14] <Shuddertrix> Nameless1: killall esd, i think the wiki has some specific instructions for turning off esd completely
[06:14] <jamey3> where can I find a list of *every* source I could possibly use with Ubuntu?
[06:14] <Strife> Burgundavia: meh, you're right... they are hosted by ubuntuforums.org, though
[06:15] <BollocksMacenzie> Can someone help me with my bash script. I'm trying to write something which detects the presence of my DVD drive... I was thinking something like this if /dev/hdc exist then echo connected. Can someone poit out where this isn't working?
[06:15] <Burgundavia> Strife, a soon as jdong gets his key signed, he can move the backports to the official servers
[06:15] <Strife> BollocksMacenzie: /dev/hdc always exists
[06:15] <vido> I have a problem, I'm a user on Compaq Tru64 Unix I wont use this machine as proxy. Now I can only use the shell and Lynx how can do ip_forward?
[06:15] <Strife> Burgundavia: ahh, makes sense
[06:16] <jamey3> If I wanted to get the JRE, would this be the best way? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:16] <BollocksMacenzie> Strife: No it doesn't! On my laptop if you boot without the DVD drive in, it doesn't create the entry!
[06:16] <nalioths_dog> jamey3: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[06:16] <Strife> BollocksMacenzie: so ls /dev/hdc gives an error?
[06:17] <Strife> nalioths_dog: interesting... I never even realized you could do that...
[06:17] <BollocksMacenzie> Strife: "No such file or directory"
[06:17] <shawnh> hi
[06:17] <Strife> BollocksMacenzie: weird
[06:17] <jamey3> nalioths_dog, so the Wiki doesn't tell me that?
[06:17] <Nameless1> shuddertrix: its still not working i have no sound
[06:17] <shawnh> how is  the guy doing
[06:17] <Strife> I need to go run
[06:17] <Strife> later
[06:17] <vido> I have a problem, I'm a user on Compaq Tru64 Unix I wont use this machine as proxy. Now I can only use the shell and Lynx how can do ip_forward to firefox on mypc?
[06:17] <shawnh> where too strife
[06:18] <Strife[afk] > shawnh: around in circles
[06:18] <Strife[afk] > you know
[06:18] <Strife[afk] > for excercise
[06:18] <BollocksMacenzie> Strife: Does however come up when you have to drive connected!
[06:18] <shawnh> ahhhhh
[06:18] <shawnh>  just got in from a round of golf
[06:18] <Shuddertrix> Nameless1: configure arts then in the kde control center, but this goes out of the scope of #ubuntu and right into #kubuntu.
[06:18] <shawnh>  only played nine
[06:18] <shawnh>  think I was scarin the guy I was with
[06:18] <shawnh>  getting too good for im
[06:18] <shawnh> yeah right
[06:19] <BollocksMacenzie> Strife: I'm just trying to create a little bash script to load a few commands if the DVD is inserted!
[06:19] <Shuddertrix> Nameless1: You're better off just using a different, non-arts plugin for noatun or a different media player like Rythembox or whatever it's called
[06:19] <Melectaus_> Is there any packages to play .wmv files ?
[06:19] <Nameless1> shuddertrix: i tried to go into kde, i installed the kde base system but i cant *log into it* thru the gui ill set that up later but right now i am STUCK in gnome so can i configure it in gnome
[06:20] <nalioth> jamey3: the wiki doesnt have this method, i don't think
[06:20] <xliu> Hi, may I use acpid and acpi instead of apmd?
[06:20] <Melectaus_> Could someone tell me if there are any packages to play .wmv files on ubuntu :-\
[06:20] <Shuddertrix> Nameless1: Look at the noatun prefrences, i'm sure there's something. Or, just use a different mmedia player
[06:20] <s0lid> hi guys
[06:20] <Shuddertrix> Melectaus_: mplayer plays wmv, perhaps you are looking for w32codecs instead.
[06:20] <Nameless1> suddertrix: k
[06:20] <nalioth> Melectaus_: if you have w32codecs, most any video/audio player wil ldo
[06:20] <s0lid> i tried to configure it through dpkg-reconfigure but still the highest resolution is 800x600
[06:21] <nalioth> s0lid: did you choose the VESA driver?
[06:21] <Tsukasa> s0lid, what resolutions are present in your xorg.conf in the section "screen"?
[06:21] <s0lid> hmmm... no
[06:21] <Shuddertrix> Nameless1: Most IRC clients can tab-complete names, you should perhaps start doing that so I don't have to look through all your responses.
[06:21] <s0lid> wait ill look
[06:21] <Melectaus_> Shuddertrix, yes the codecs are what i need
[06:21] <moparfan90> hello
[06:22] <Shuddertrix> Melectaus_: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[06:22] <Melectaus_> nalioth, sudp apt-get install w32codecs ?
[06:22] <shinu> what command can i use to check if a file is used by someone?
[06:22] <shinu> fuser?
[06:22] <s0lid> Tsukasa, "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
[06:22] <Melectaus_> ahh cool, cheers Shuddertrix
[06:22] <Shuddertrix> no problem.
[06:22] <Tsukasa> hm, okay
[06:22] <nalioth> Melectaus_: yes, or go to www.mplayerhq.hu  and download the 'essential package'
[06:22] <Nameless1> shuddertrix: its not in the options menu
[06:23] <lukus001> I have a problem with my CD driver.   I get an error of unable to mount... i think it was chroot the messed it up but can somone tell me how i can fix it
[06:23] <Shuddertrix> Nameless1: Make sure nothing else is using sounds.
[06:23] <Nameless1> how do u do that, i have tried to do it. im not a regular user of irc
[06:23] <Shuddertrix> Make sure that gnome's sounds are off, no sound server on boot
[06:23] <nalioth> Nameless1: type na<tab>
[06:23] <jamey3> nalioth, why do you have two usernames? (nalioth and nalioths_dog?)
[06:23] <nalioth> jamey3: i do not have 2 usernames
[06:23] <Nameless1> na<tab>
[06:23] <Shuddertrix> Nameless1: Type part of a name (for example, shud) then just press tab.
[06:24] <Melectaus_> nalioth, i tried sudo apt-get install w32codecs and it said it didnt have an install candadate
[06:24] <jasoncohen> Shuddertrix, why is that? sound works here with gnome's sound server
[06:24] <nalioth> Nameless1: type na (and the tab button on yoru keyboard)
[06:24] <Nameless1> na<tab> shudder test
[06:24] <nalioth> Melectaus_: see my response above
[06:24] <Nameless1> ohh i c
[06:24] <Shuddertrix> Nameless1: No, don't type out <tab>, press the tab button on your keyboard
[06:24] <jamey3> nalioth, lmao just two different users :)
[06:24] <Melectaus_> ok thanks
[06:24] <nalioth> jamey3: the dog has a script to help me help you
[06:25] <Nameless1> Shuddertrix, test
[06:25] <Nameless1> did that work or do i have to make sure it uses the :
[06:25] <Shuddertrix> jasoncohen: That reply was meant for Nameless1
[06:25] <kgrimm> anyone have an ftp site where i can get the ubuntu install dvd? bittorrent says 2 days to download
[06:25] <nalioth> Nameless1: yer doin fine
[06:25] <Shuddertrix> Nameless1: It works. You can change the , to something else in your client's preferences.
[06:25] <nalioth> kgrimm: take a couple days off, then
[06:25] <BollocksMacenzie> Someone tell me where this is going wrong...#!/bin/bash
[06:25] <BollocksMacenzie> #testing.sh
[06:25] <BollocksMacenzie> if /dev/hdc exist then
[06:25] <BollocksMacenzie>     echo connected
[06:25] <BollocksMacenzie> else
[06:25] <BollocksMacenzie>     echo not connected
[06:25] <BollocksMacenzie> fi
[06:25] <synd> BollocksMacenzie, dont paste here
[06:25] <Nameless1> shudder<tab>
[06:26] <Nameless1> oops
[06:26] <Nameless1> Shuddertrix, thanx
[06:26] <Shuddertrix> Settings > Preferences... > Input Box
[06:26] <BollocksMacenzie> synd: Sorry, it's just no one was saying anything productive!
[06:26] <SS2_irssi> hmm, nix los hier heute
[06:26] <nalioth> Shuddertrix: i can't find settings > preferences > input box
[06:26] <SS2_irssi> oops wrong room
[06:26] <Shuddertrix> Nameless1: Go there if you want to change the comma, since you appear to be using X-Chat
[06:27] <synd> BollocksMacenzie, flooding prevents from anyone saying anything productive.
[06:27] <Shuddertrix> nalioth: :P
[06:27] <Nameless1> Shuddertrix: its workin now
[06:27] <virtuald> why does it look like this when i use utf-8 in irssi? http://82.209.163.166/~danielh/2005-07-04-174745_1152x864_scrot.png
[06:27] <BollocksMacenzie> synd: Calm down, you're taking this all too seriously.
[06:27] <cdc> could someone tell me the filename in the Linux Source which shows the implementation of NTP?
[06:27] <synd> BollocksMacenzie, oh please. just don't flood. end of story.
[06:27] <Nameless1> Shuddertrix: so back to the audio problem, i couldnt find that thing in noatun.... u kno how to fix the audio?
[06:28] <cdc> i want to look into the NTP implementation of NTP in Linux
[06:28] <CEM`27> hello
[06:28] <bluefoxicy> bluefox@icebox:~$ sudo apt-get remove `deborphan | xargs`
[06:28] <bluefoxicy> After unpacking 23.4MB disk space will be freed.
[06:28] <bluefoxicy> :)
[06:28] <Shuddertrix> Nameless1: Make sure that gnome's sounds are off, no sound server on boot. It might help, it might not help. You can just get around this by using a different media player in the meantime.
[06:28] <nalioth> virtuald: looks fine to me (what am i looking for?)
[06:29] <virtuald> nalioth: look at the input lie
[06:29] <virtuald> line
[06:29] <virtuald>  becomes \uFFFF
[06:29] <Melectaus_> How do i start my wifi card in terminal
[06:29] <Nameless1> Shuddertrix: i havent got another mediaplayer setup properly with codecs tho :( and this one looks like it will run perfect once i get this sound setup
[06:29] <BollocksMacenzie> synd: All right, all right... Don't get your knickers in a twist!
[06:29] <bluefoxicy> bluefox@icebox:~$ sudo apt-get remove `deborphan | grep -v gstreamer |  xargs`
[06:29] <nalioth> virtuald: utf-8 must be above my head
[06:29] <bluefoxicy> That's a little safer.
[06:29] <virtuald> mkay
[06:29] <virtuald> B] 
[06:30] <Melectaus_> Could someone please tell me how to start my wifi card in terminal
[06:30] <Nameless1> Shuddertrix:  how do u turn gnome sounds off??  i dont want to lose gnome sounds :(
[06:30] <Melectaus_> in a terminal*
[06:30] <ubuntu> is gnome 2.11.x being backported to hoary? I'm playing with Colony 2 Live right now and the new tree/list view in nautilus is <3
[06:31] <synd> Melectaus_, System > Admin > Networking
[06:31] <Shuddertrix> Nameless1: Looks like your only choice is to use a different media player, since you don't want to lose sounds
[06:31] <synd> Melectaus_, you can activate it there.
[06:31] <s0lid> hi guys i just used vesa but nothing still happened
[06:31] <Nameless1> Shuddertrix: what one do u recomend?
[06:31] <Shuddertrix> I don't know exactly where it is in gnome-panel, I don't use it
[06:31] <nalioth> s0lid: are you restarting your x?
[06:31] <Shuddertrix> Nameless1: What are you trying to play?
[06:32] <s0lid> nalioth, yes
[06:32] <Melectaus_> synd, it isnt showing
[06:32] <s0lid> :)
[06:32] <Melectaus_> only eth0 and modem is there
[06:32] <Bariki> Hihi
[06:32] <nalioth> s0lid: try it with 24bit color
[06:32] <s0lid> im using 24 bit already
[06:32] <nalioth> Melectaus_: please tell us your hardware specs
[06:32] <synd> Melectaus_, is it a PCI or PCMCIA card?
[06:32] <nalioth> s0lid: then take it down to 16
[06:32] <synd> Melectaus_, or integrated
[06:32] <s0lid> is there a way to change bit to 24
[06:33] <Nameless1> Shuddertrix: avis -- divx - xvid     dvds  mov stuff like that       i download LOTS of videos off peer 2 peer so u figure + i have vid tutorials in *.mov so i need *.mov at some point
[06:33] <jasoncohen> Nameless1, what media player are you trying to use?
[06:33] <s0lid> oh yeah 16 it is ill try it :)
[06:33] <Melectaus_> harware, well its a edimax ew-7108pcg wifi card (pcmcia)
[06:33] <Nameless1> jasoncohen: im tryin to use noatun but its not giving me sound
[06:33] <jasoncohen> Nameless1, if you have xine instaleld with w32codecs it can play all your quicktime, divx,/xvid, mpeg etc. movies
[06:33] <synd> Melectaus_, you'll need to use ndiswrapper
[06:33] <jasoncohen> why not use xine, totem, or kaffeine?
[06:33] <Melectaus_> ok synd
[06:34] <Bariki> Anyone know if Uduntu 5.04 supports SATA RAID controllers? Specifically Promise FastTrak 378.
[06:34] <Nameless1> jasoncohen: does xine come with a gui tho?
[06:34] <Shuddertrix> Nameless1: I would recommend xine or mplayer in that case (gxine, gmplayer too) along with w32codecs. You'll probably want to use totem/kaffeine for everything, then.
[06:34] <synd> Melectaus_, if that card's chipset isnt automatically being seen by ubuntu's drivers
[06:34] <jasoncohen> Nameless1, yes
[06:34] <jasoncohen> Nameless1, as does totem and kaffeine
[06:34] <Nameless1> jasoncohen: considering i have codecs that DO WORK installed for nautun will i have to setup codecs with this other thing?
[06:34] <jasoncohen> Nameless1, and xine is extremely fast to startup & use- it supports DVD menus & subtitles with a nice menu interface
[06:34] <jasoncohen> Nameless1, it's easy
[06:35] <BollocksMacenzie> Is there a way of getting a list of bash commands?
[06:35] <jasoncohen> Nameless1, and you can also use totem-xine which will use xine's codecs
[06:35] <jasoncohen> Nameless1, if you have backport & backport-extras just apt-get install xine-ui totem-xine w32codecs
[06:35] <s0lid> :) tnx guys!
[06:35] <jasoncohen> Nameless1, kaffeine is also quite nice
[06:35] <Nameless1> jasoncohen:  i dont have them
[06:35] <jasoncohen> Nameless1, and you'll want mozilla-mplayer or kaffeine-mplayer for firefox
[06:35] <Shuddertrix> The only good thing about xine for me is the DVD menus, but since I only own 2 dvd's, I just use mplayer (personal choice)
[06:36] <Bariki> Any idea about those SATA RAID controllers?
[06:36] <jasoncohen> Nameless1, http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[06:36] <Nameless1> Shuddertrix: i have to figure out how to setup this thing to "update" its list but is mplayer in it
[06:36] <lukus001> im about to format my pc going from ubutu64bit to 32bit, i should be able to do that with no problems?
[06:36] <jasoncohen> you need the lines below ## Backports
[06:36] <Nameless1> jasoncohen: you read my mind lol
[06:37] <nalioths_dog> jasoncohen: Please do not advise ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead.  Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[06:37] <action09> BollocksMacenzie  i dunno one sorry , but try bash advanced scripting guide, goof one to start..
[06:37] <jasoncohen> Nameless1, gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, and add those two lines to the bottom. then apt-get update and apt-get install xine-ui totem-xine w32codecs
[06:37] <jasoncohen> nalioths_dog, ok
[06:38] <Nameless1> jasoncohen: will do, gimmie a sec brb
[06:40] <jamey3> Does anyone have any experience with Rhthymbox and iPods? I am trying to copy a single MP3 from the iPod to my desktop. Strange this is: the progress indicator is *increasing* in seconds!
[06:40] <buzbe> anyone got any ideas how to speed up dvd burning?
[06:41] <buzbe> I'm only getting speeds of 0.1x
[06:41] <jtorq> Hello, can anyone recommend a good program I can use for mobile networking that will allow me to change profiles and use a wired connection priority over wireless?
[06:41] <^thehatsrule^> ouch ^^
[06:41] <jamey3> buzbe, I think you need to enable DMA support. But I don't know how
[06:41] <Nameless1> is there a way to search thru files in the file database thru the console instead of loading that gnome program?
[06:41] <buzbe> I think dma support is enabled...
[06:41] <jamey3> find / -iname "name of file"
[06:41] <jamey3> or slocate "name of file"
[06:41] <jamey3> run updatedb to update the file database
[06:41] <^thehatsrule^> buzbe/ jamey3: dma is hdparm -d1 /dev/blah
[06:42] <Nameless1> yup
[06:42] <buzbe> ^thehatsrule^, done that
[06:42] <^thehatsrule^> oh :S
[06:43] <buzbe> any other ideas?
[06:43] <djp> buzbe: using cdrecord use speed=x (replace x with desired speed)
[06:43] <buzbe> well i've tried using k3b, and setting the speed at 8x but it still only writes at 0.1x
[06:43] <bccs> hi
[06:44] <lukus001> I'm trying to get my audio to work, i have a ASUS A8n-e deluxe motheboard with a built-in optical port - how do i get my sound to play through it?
[06:44] <djp> buzbe: nice --18 cdrecord -eject -v speed=2 dev=0,6,0 -data -pad foo.iso
[06:44] <cdc> could someone tell me a good P2P Client for Linux?
[06:44] <bccs> i'm trying to compile mono from source, but when i use ./configure, it's trying to use glib-1.2
[06:44] <jamey3> Does anyone have any experience with Rhthymbox and iPods? I am trying to copy a single MP3 from the iPod to my desktop. Strange this is: the progress indicator is *increasing* in seconds!
[06:44] <bccs> how can i make ./configure use glib-2.0???
[06:44] <buzbe> djp: whats the nice command do?
[06:44] <cdc> could Someone tell me a goog p2p Client for Linux ?
[06:44] <djp> buzbe: that is obviously just an example. you will need to change relevant info for your needs
[06:44] <nalioth> cdc gtk-gnutella, dc++, bittorrent, amule, emule, etc etc
[06:44] <jamey3> *Rythmn
[06:44] <jamey3> oh fuck lol
[06:44] <nalioth> jamey3: gtkpod?
[06:45] <jamey3> nalioth, but I like rhythmbox!
[06:45] <Nameless1> jasoncohen: installin totem-xine thanx  YAY I HAVE AUDIO!
[06:45] <nalioth> jamey3: but gtkpod interfaces with ipods
[06:45] <Hentai> Hello all
[06:45] <djp> buzbe: lowers the priority of an app
[06:45] <jamey3> nalioth, so does rhythmbox!
[06:46] <Blue_Summer> Whats the difference between totem and totem-xine?
[06:46] <cdc> nalioth, does dc++ run in Ubuntu?
[06:46] <nalioth> jamey3: i think you need gtkpod on the system
[06:46] <jamey3> oh I see
[06:46] <jamey3> thanks :)
[06:46] <nalioth> cdc: there is a dc++ client for ubuntu
[06:46] <djp> Blue_Summer: there is totem-gstreamer and totem-xine
[06:47] <djp> Blue_Summer: i prefer totem-gstreamer
[06:47] <bluefoxicy> Does apt unpack to /tmp and then copy the files to /?
[06:47] <blueyed> what's better? sharing a fat32 partition between winXP and Ubuntu or an ext3 (I have a driver for XP that can read/write ext3)?
[06:47] <Blue_Summer> djp,  i use totem lol the one that comes pre installed, just got the codecs and its fine so what does gstreamer and xine do different?
[06:47] <jtorq> I have an issue where if I put eth0 to use DHCP, but then move my laptop elsewhere, at the next boot it will pause for several minutes trying to get an address
[06:47] <bluefoxicy> blueyed:  where is that driver, and ext3 is better
[06:48] <bluefoxicy> blueyed:  if the driver works
[06:48] <djp> Blue_Summer: default totem is the gstreamer version
[06:48] <Blue_Summer> djp,  kk, so what does xine do different?
[06:48] <nalioth> blueyed: the fat32 method is better  (depend on windoze for nothing)
[06:48] <djp> Blue_Summer: if you want to use restricted codecs i you should install the gstreamer-plugins package
[06:48] <aCiD2> Eeep, I broke Ubuntu! Im not sure what I've done but apparently my system has broken packages
[06:48] <bluefoxicy> aCiD2:  sudo apt-get -f upgrade
[06:48] <nalioth> blueyed: are you wanting to access the drive from windoze and linux?
[06:48] <aCiD2> I tried using the filters with synaptic but its displaying all packages
[06:48] <ompaul> jtorq, why whould you have a laptop with a static ip ?
[06:49] <Hentai> I would like a link for that ext3 driver
[06:49] <aCiD2> bluefoxicy, I'll give that a shot
[06:49] <cdc> nalioth, could u please tell me the name of the client?
[06:49] <Blue_Summer> djp,  i dont want codecs i just want to know what totem-xine is
[06:49] <blueyed> yes, nalioth.
[06:49] <nalioth> aCiD2: are you using unofficial repositorys?
[06:49] <jtorq> ompaul, it's not - it's using DHCP
[06:49] <nalioth> cdc: open synaptic and search for dc++
[06:49] <jeroen_> aCiD2, do you use Breezy Badger or non-official repos
[06:49] <aCiD2> 1 non-official repo
[06:49] <jeroen_> aCiD2, which one?
[06:49] <ompaul> jtorq, what is eth0? a physical ethernet card or wireless?
[06:49] <Hentai> blueyed can I get link or something for that ext3 driver?
[06:49] <cdc> nalioth, i searched and its showing me a lot of packages i dont know which one of those? :-)
[06:49] <aCiD2> Hmm, I'll just find i
[06:49] <aCiD2> +t
[06:50] <nalioth> blueyed: then i'd recommend the fat32 method (i don't want windows having the ability to read/write to my linux stuff)
[06:50] <jtorq> ompaul, eth0 is my wired connection, and ra0 is my wireless
[06:50] <aCiD2> deb http://acm.cs.umn.edu/ubp/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[06:50] <blueyed> Hentai: I'll search it.
[06:50] <nalioth> cdc: dcclient i believe
[06:50] <Hentai> ok
[06:50] <blueyed> nalioth: it would be a shared partition, just for data..
[06:50] <djp> Blue_Summer: different engines basically
[06:50] <beginnerMKII> Hey guys im trying to install drivers for a Speedtouch Alcatel modem on a recently installed Ubuntu , i am new to linux and am following the instructions off here http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/ , i have all the files downloaded on floppy and am in the terminal typing in what it says off the page, the thing is its asking me to type "sudo alien -i libatm*" to instal something, and im getting asked for a password, it didn't me
[06:50] <nalioth> blueyed: then fat32 i'd recommend
[06:50] <bluefoxicy> blueyed:  where'd you get the driver from
[06:50] <beginnerMKII> I think this is quite an important part of installing the driver, help !
[06:51] <Blue_Summer> djp,  do they look different?
[06:51] <ompaul> jtorq, is this an issue when you use eth0 and want to move to ra0 next boot?
[06:51] <jeroen_> aCiD2, maybe that's causing the problem, what were you doing when it gave errors?
[06:51] <Blue_Summer> djp,  ill check the webby for some screenies
[06:51] <nalioth> guys the winduhs ext3 driver is easily googlable
[06:51] <jtorq> ompaul, no it's an issue where it's trying to get DHCP when it's not plugged in
[06:51] <djp> Blue_Summer: no you won't notice any difference in terms of gui
[06:51] <concept10> hey nalioth, hows it going today
[06:52] <aCiD2> jeroen_, apt-get update-dist
[06:52] <aCiD2> or dist-update
[06:52] <aCiD2> (Im a bit new :P()
[06:52] <Blue_Summer> djp,  i cant be botherd then ;)
[06:52] <jeroen_> aCiD2, dist-upgrade I guess ;-)
[06:52] <aCiD2> yep :)
[06:52] <Hentai> yep nalioth is right
[06:52] <jtorq> ompaul, I've used ifplugd and wrote a script that makes it get DHCP only when it's plugged in, but that's no a solution for my wireless
[06:52] <jeroen_> aCiD2, what is the exact error? (Which package is broken?)
[06:52] <aCiD2> everything seems to be working nicely now though, thanks guys
[06:52] <aCiD2> it was firefox-gnome
[06:52] <djp> Blue_Summer: if you have the default totem working fine, stick with it! :)
[06:53] <nalioth> concept10: great! and you?
[06:53] <Blue_Summer> djp,  kk lol
[06:53] <ompaul> jtorq, as I read it you want to be static with ra0?
[06:53] <jtorq> ompaul, http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/ seems to be exactly what I want, but I've never got it to work in either Debian or Ubuntu
[06:53] <jtorq> ompaul, no, just DHCP as well
[06:53] <nalioth> Hentai: i was right about something?
[06:54] <concept10> nalioth, cant complain!
[06:54] <littlefae> Hiya
[06:54] <blueyed> nalioth, bluefoxicy, Hentai: this is the driver: http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html - it was reviewed in the german c't magazine.
[06:54] <ompaul> jtorq, sorry I do not understand what you are doing, is that you plug in then move from wireless to wired, when you are finished in the place where it is wired you want to be wireless again?
[06:54] <Blue_Summer> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:54] <spike> is anybody using amarok here? mp3s work fine, but web radios don't, it crashes on me as soon as I try to play one
[06:54] <littlefae> Anyone know much about Enlightenment?
[06:54] <Blue_Summer> oops soz
[06:54] <ompaul> jtorq, as you walk, so to speak
 guys the winduhs ext3 driver is easily googlable
[06:54] <blueyed> spike: I use it and it has problems, yes. Try changing the engine.
[06:54] <Hentai> yeah you were just the driver I found only supports read and not write
[06:54] <nalioth> blueyed: bluefoxicy i dont recommend enabling windows to read/write to your linux stuff
[06:54] <ulisse> hi all
[06:55] <bluefoxicy> nalioth:  i konw.
[06:55] <blueyed> nalioth: as said, it's just a data partition thingie.
[06:55] <ulisse> I've just installed beagle two days ago, but it seems I only can find web pages, not files...
[06:55] <nalioth> easier to convert or originally format fat32
[06:56] <nalioth> Hentai: with windows know data mining behavior, i don't even want it reading my linux stuff
[06:56] <Dreezard> hi everyone
[06:56] <nalioth> Hentai: known bad behavior
[06:56] <Dreezard> got a little question here
[06:56] <blueyed> but wouldn't have ext3 have advantages with Linux?
[06:56] <jtorq> ompaul, essentially
[06:57] <littlefae> Anyone know how I can get all the apps I have in gnome to be listed in Enlightenment?
[06:57] <concept10> ulisse, find the beagle IRC channel and ask those guys howto index your files
[06:57] <nalioth> blueyed: using only linux, ext3 is great, but having other non-*nix OS' sharing is diffecult
[06:57] <Dreezard> It may be stupid to ask but: Is there a way to set the preferred video player so that the videos will be opened with e.g. vlc and not totem?
[06:58] <Dreezard> in gnome i mean
[06:58] <blueyed> Dreezard: with gnome/nautilus?
[06:58] <Dreezard> yeah
[06:58] <ompaul> jtorq, so how are you telling the machine that you want to reactivate ra0 ?
[06:58] <Dreezard> I'm not so into gnome yet
[06:58] <ompaul> jtorq, what I would do is a crude kludge, sudo dhclient :)
[06:58] <nalioth> Dreezard: yes, right click on your preferred video in nautilus and click 'open with' and then select ''always open with' at the bottom
[06:59] <blueyed> there is me neither, Dreezard. sorry.
[06:59] <ompaul> jtorq, after telling it ifdown eth0; ifup ra0
[06:59] <jtorq> ompaul, right now every time I want to use wireless I have to say ifconfig ra0 up;dhclient ra0
[06:59] <jtorq> ompaul, ifup/ifdown don't even work for me anymore
[07:00] <jasoncohen> is anyone using colony 2? how is it?
[07:00] <Dreezard> thx nalioth. But isn't there a more easy way to set that on more video formats instead of doing that for each one?
[07:00] <jtorq> ompaul, "Ignoring unknown interface ra0=ra0"
[07:00] <ompaul> jtorq, yuk
[07:00] <beginnerMKII> Where can i get a 'firmware-extractor' ?
[07:00] <jiyuu0> Dreezard, check out http://ubuntuguide.org/#xine-ui
[07:00] <jiyuu0> it sets xine for all multimedia apps
[07:00] <nalioth> Dreezard: it will take for each format
[07:01] <nalioth> Dreezard: not each title
[07:01] <fc> how can I share my printer with a windows pc?
[07:01] <fc> i tried everything
[07:01] <fc> nothing works
[07:01] <jtorq> ompaul, I also noticed when the links come up they have an extra route I have to remove or I can't access my network computers
[07:01] <xisco> hi
[07:01] <xisco> good afternoon
[07:01] <xisco> I am desesperate
[07:01] <ompaul> jtorq, pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[07:01] <nalioth> Dreezard: don't read too much over at ubuntuguide (besides what jiyuu0 told ya)
[07:01] <xisco> can anyone help me?
[07:01] <Strife> xisco: sorry, I will not sleep with you
[07:01] <BollocksMacenzie> In bash the $? variable returns the value of the last executed program, now how do I use it... I had if [ $? = "1" ] ; then but it doesn't seem to work, little help?
[07:02] <Dreezard> I know that player, but the video formats were just an example. I guess there's no "central controll" of all the formats is there?
[07:02] <xisco>  HA HA
[07:02] <nalioth> xisco: we need a question, first
[07:02] <xisco> Im horny too ha ha
[07:02] <xisco> I need to do a webcam chat
[07:02] <xisco> how can i do it?
[07:03] <beginnerMKII> Whats gcc?
[07:03] <jeroen_> compiler, beginnerMKII
[07:03] <Dreezard> ok. many thx so far
[07:03] <ompaul> beginnerMKII, a c compiler
[07:03] <xisco>  how can i configure cam on ubuntu?
[07:03] <jtorq> ompaul, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/406
[07:03] <beginnerMKII> It says i need a copy of it to compile this firmware extractor thing, where can i get one from?
[07:03] <Dreezard> I'll just take a look at that userguide
[07:03] <jtorq> ompaul, that's all that's in there
[07:03] <ompaul> jtorq, thanks
[07:03] <Dreezard> by then
[07:03] <xisco> and is there any program like ams to cam chat?
[07:03] <nalioth> beginnerMKII: install 'build-essential' using synaptic
[07:04] <jasoncohen> xisco, use gnomemeeting
[07:04] <fc> how can I share my printer with a windows pc?
[07:04] <jeroen_> beginnerMKII, you can install it with synaptic, but if you want to build programs, you'd better install build-essential, as nalioth suggests
[07:04] <xisco> I dont know how to use it
[07:04] <Oly> hiya, come for a bit of help my networking is b0rked :/
[07:04] <jeroen_> beginnerMKII, build-essential will also install gcc
[07:04] <beginnerMKII> Ok too complicated, can't i get a firmware extractor from anywhere that doesn't require this gcc thing?
[07:04] <ompaul> jtorq, nothing as primary which do you use most ra or eth
[07:04] <littlefae> Anyone know anything about enlightenment?
[07:04] <jasoncohen> xisco, it's already installed- applications > internet > gnomemeeting and run the configuration druid
[07:05] <nalioth> beginnerMKII: just install 'build-essential' it won't hurt anything and will be there for future use
[07:05] <littlefae> I'm moving from gnome to it, as it's faster, and gives far less corruption than I get on metacity
[07:05] <Oly> i am using breezy and since my last update networking has been knocked out something todo with permissions and missing file
[07:05] <Strife> configuration druid... heh
[07:05] <spike> blueyed: what engine do u use? I've tried arts (using kde) and gstreamer but no luck.
[07:05] <Oly> anyone hit snags at all
[07:05] <Oly> ??
[07:05] <Strife> "We can't call it wizard. What should we call it?" "I know, how about druid!"
[07:05] <beginnerMKII> Where do i find that nalioth?
[07:05] <spike> oh, he's gone
[07:05] <littlefae> Thing is, i want ALL the apps from my metacity WM to be listed on enlightenment, is there I way I can do this easily?
[07:05] <jeroen_> xisco, the 'test' version of amsn, the so-called cvs-version has support for webcam chat, but it's under development and not really stable. You can also use your cam with gaim by installing the package gaim-vv
[07:05] <Oly> SIOCSIFADDR:Permission denied
[07:05] <Oly> SIOCSIFFLAGS:Permission denied
[07:05] <Oly> SIOCSIFNETMASK:Permission denied
[07:05] <Oly> SIOCSIFBRDADDR:Permission denied
[07:06] <Oly> i get those errors when trying to get my ip
[07:06] <Strife> what are you using to get your ip?
[07:06] <jeroen_> Oly, with what command?
[07:06] <Oly> dhclient eth0
[07:06] <Oly> tried 2 network cards
[07:06] <Strife> us ifconfig eth0
[07:06] <Strife> use*
[07:06] <Oly> they are both out
[07:07] <Strife> sudo ifconfig eth0
[07:07] <Oly> okay will give that a go
[07:08] <jtorq> ompaul, well, ra0 is easier around the house, but I'd like for eth0 to be primary for the sake of speed
[07:08] <jtorq> ompaul, and I've heard that using an `auto` stanza in interfaces conflicts with ifplugd
[07:09] <sensayshun> Are there any frames per second monitors for ubuntu?
[07:09] <snugglebunny> I have the latest libnjb installed from source. And a late .deb file. How do I install the .deb file without installing the old libnjb?
[07:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone here know about sound cards?
[07:10] <snugglebunny> apt-get -cfile.deb install --ignore-missing doesn't seem to work
[07:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i have a real problem with mine
[07:10] <jeroen_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, describing your trouble would help to get an answer
[07:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[07:11] <ompaul> jtorq, not aware of that
[07:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> first heres the config for the sound card : http://pastebin.com/307321
[07:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> now when i play audio it will only use 1 sound at a time
[07:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> if mplayer is running the system sounds will not work
[07:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> if teamspeak RC2 is running nothing else can play sounds
[07:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there a way to fix this
[07:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so that more than 1 program can use sound at a time?
[07:13] <shinu> anyone knows a nice program to play MUDs? :)
[07:13] <ompaul> jtorq, reading a little more on that now :)
[07:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cause it's really frustrating only being able to do one thing that involves sound at a time
[07:14] <jeroen_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, it has to do with sound servers, some can and some can't play multiple sounds at the same time, but I really don't know a thing about that :p
[07:15] <djp> does xine require w32codecs in order to playback divx files?
[07:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> damnit
[07:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i really need help with this lol
[07:15] <ompaul> jtorq, there is a suggestion in --> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25952.html <-- that may help look at dejitarob post at 9:45pm
[07:16] <jeroen_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, can you set your system, or the invidual apps you're experiencing problems with to use another sound server?
[07:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i don't know
[07:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i wasen't aware it could be done
[07:16] <jeroen_> maybe there's an mplayer plug-in for alsa, esd, etc
[07:16] <jeroen_> try ;-)
[07:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[07:17] <Oly> w00t sudo ifconfig eth1 seems to have worked yay
[07:17] <Oly> bit baffled as to why, thought that just displayed current settings
[07:18] <Oly> :p
[07:18] <Gourami> I have created a new desktop user, however when I log on as this user I am unable to share a folder, is there something I need to do to enable this user to share a folder ?
[07:18] <jeroen_> Gourami, system -> administration -> shared folders ?
[07:19] <Gourami> jeroen_ I get the password prompt, enter my password then no response or error
[07:19] <jeroen_> Gourami, wrong password error? If so, enter the correct password :p
[07:19] <jtorq> ompaul, hmm, yeah, that's similar to what I had before
[07:19] <jeroen_> Gourami, not your own, the password of that user
[07:20] <jeroen_> Gourami, or maybe you should change the permissions of your newly-created user
[07:20] <Gourami> I am using the password of that user, I get no error, I click ok and the password window just goes away and nothing happens
[07:20] <jiyuu0> if not mistaken, your new user needs to have admin/sudo priviledge
[07:20] <jeroen_> system -> administration -> users and groups
[07:20] <jtorq> ompaul, it just doesn't seem like a real fix, unfortunately :(
[07:21] <jeroen_> Gourami, then click on your user and change its settings
[07:21] <jeroen_> (properties)
[07:21] <Heimdall> can I ask a question about azureus on my ubuntu ?
[07:21] <jeroen_> user privileges -> executing system administration tasks
[07:21] <jeroen_> make sure its checked!
[07:22] <jeroen_> Gourami
[07:22] <Heimdall> I have more than 1000 seeders for a torrent file, but no download begin after a long time.... what sort of pb could it be ?
[07:22] <sensayshun> are there any frames per second monitors for ubuntu?
[07:23] <littlefae> You people in here are nice and helpful, I've a query about enlightenment.  Please say someone in here knows about it?
[07:24] <jeroen_> littlefae, just ask is the topic
[07:24] <othernoob> Heimdall are you even connected to any of them
[07:25] <littlefae> I did, twice
[07:25] <Heimdall> othernoob, the little head is red... but 0 connection to the sources
[07:25] <jtorq> ompaul, thank you very much for your time though - I think I'm going to experiment with it a bit more
[07:25] <littlefae> I was wondering how to edit the user menus, so I can add firefox, etc
[07:25] <jeroen_> littlefae, its a DE?
[07:25] <jeroen_> *it's
[07:26] <Gourami> but I dont want all users to have sudo priveleges just to share a folder ?
[07:26] <littlefae> DE?
[07:26] <littlefae> It is enlightenment
[07:26] <othernoob> Heimdall, the smiley should be green..not red..
[07:26] <othernoob> Heimdall, looks like you should configure your connection properly.
[07:26] <Heimdall> yeah I know this is my pb
[07:27] <ompaul> jtorq, I would suggest making two config files - and swapping one for another
[07:27] <jeroen_> littlefae, desktop environment
[07:27] <Heimdall> othernoob, what could I configure....???
[07:27] <littlefae> Yes it is
[07:27] <jeroen_> littlefae, I think I can help you, let me search my e-mail archives....
[07:27] <ompaul> so you want eth0 or ra0 it is sitting there and dhclient should get it in a few seconds
[07:28] <jtorq> ompaul, before I was thinking about writing a curses frontend to switch profiles and reload the configurations
[07:28] <othernoob> Heimdall, maybe your isp blocks the ports 6881:6889
[07:28] <othernoob> try a different one.
[07:29] <Heimdall> othernoob, isp ?
[07:30] <jeroen_> littlefae, you can manually edit ~/.local/share/applications (only for your account) or system-wide /usr/share/applications/
[07:30] <Gourami> how do I give a shared folder permissions only for a specific user ?
[07:31] <ompaul> jtorq, if you have /etc/network/interfaces and foo_1 and foo_2 and you just copy the correct one for the job into place with dhclient it becomes easy I think, with the following line at the end of the file with eth0 or ra0 as required:   iface eth0 inet dhcp  <-- I put my full working interfaces file on this box - the other machine here seems to have no problems if I bring it down and plug it in - however it is not mine and kinda heavy
[07:31] <ompaul> :)
[07:32] <littlefae> Edit it to what?  I'm assuming that it's a folder full of links?
[07:32] <jeroen_> littlefae, it's a folder full of links, yes
[07:32] <jeroen_> littlefae, you can edit them, but if you want a new one, just copy and old one and rename it
[07:32] <jtorq> ompaul, heh, well thanks, I'll check it out
[07:33] <arentie> Does anyone know how to configure vpnc?
[07:33] <Heimdall> othernoob, what is isp ? is there a mean to test that my ports are ok ? (even amule does not download, but upload very fast)
[07:33] <littlefae> Incidentally, doesn't the Ubuntu or Universe repository have enlightenment 17 yet?
[07:33] <jeroen_> littlefae, http://archive.ubuntu.com/
[07:33] <ivoks> want to see a nice screenshot? :)
[07:34] <ivoks> of a totaly rocking operating system, called ubuntu :)
[07:34] <kgrimm> after first install and reboot. it starts downloading pkgs off the net. how long does this usually take?
[07:34] <ivoks> kgrimm: depends on speed
[07:35] <ivoks> http://master.grad.hr/~ivoks/breezy.jpg
[07:35] <kgrimm> cable modem
[07:35] <s0lid> how can i run a script on startup of ubuntu
[07:35] <s0lid> in redhat i only need to add it at /etc/rc.local
[07:36] <s0lid> but there's no such thing in ubuntu
[07:36] <Mahl> Hello
[07:36] <Mahl> I was wondering how do I select what Login manager I want
[07:36] <jeroen_> s0lid, I think init.d, but  don't really now
[07:36] <Mahl> what package do I need to reconfigure :P
[07:36] <ivoks> Mahl: dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[07:36] <kotatsu> I can't put my finger on it, but font rendering is... weird in breezy. did something change? subpixel smoothing + autohinting makes the fonts look... dunno, thinner? than they used to be
[07:37] <Mahl> Thanks
[07:38] <jeroen_> ivoks, that's absurdly transparant
[07:38] <ivoks> jeroen_: yeah :)
[07:38] <TokenBad> in ubutu is there a way to free cashed memory?
[07:38] <ivoks> jeroen_: i was testing the limits
[07:38] <s0lid> jeroen_, well that would do the trick but not as what redhat does
[07:39] <ivoks> s0lid: it' easy
[07:39] <jeroen_> s0lid, I haven't used RedHat since 7.3, so eh....
[07:39] <jeroen_> littlefae, why? Maybe it's in Breezy :p
[07:39] <ivoks> s0lid: you have to put your script in /etc/rc2.d/
[07:39] <jeroen_> that's what Breezy's for
[07:39] <ivoks> s0lid: and name it SXXmyscript
[07:39] <littlefae> Breezy is a distro...
[07:39] <ivoks> s0lid: where XX is number
[07:40] <ivoks> time to go... bye all
[07:40] <fc> how can i make localhost:631 work for configuring cups?
[07:40] <jeroen_> littlefae, Breezy is just the test-version of Ubuntu
[07:40] <ivoks> fc open /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[07:40] <jeroen_> littlefae, which has new packages but isn't rock-stable
[07:40] <ivoks> fc: and comment last two lines, with AuthClass and AuthStyle
[07:40] <aCiD2> Hi, is there some documentation on getting 3d hardware acceleration with an ATi card anywhere?
[07:40] <mgcross> hello all!!!
[07:40] <henke> s0lid, or use the tool made for it, 'update-rc.d'
[07:40] <ivoks> fc AuthClass and AuthType
[07:41] <fc> ivoks, thank youi
[07:41] <fc> -i
[07:41] <mgcross> I'm running an nvidia card...latest kernel update break it?
[07:41] <jeroen_> aCiD2, the wiki
[07:41] <ivoks> mgcross: every kernel upgrade will breake it
[07:42] <ivoks> mgcross: you just have to run nvidia installer again
[07:42] <mgcross> hmmm, last one didn't...
[07:42] <mgcross> didn't use nvidia-installer...used APT
[07:43] <fc> ivoks, do you know what the location is if I make a new class?
[07:43] <ivoks> new class?
[07:43] <ivoks> ah... <Location>? :)
[07:44] <fc> yes
[07:44] <ivoks> <Location /classes/your_new_class>
[07:44] <djp> what is the nv driver for nvidia?
[07:44] <ivoks> ?
[07:44] <xliu> where is the configuration file listing the programs which startup when login?
[07:45] <ompaul> spike,  seen this  http://ftp.fukt.bth.se/pub/movies/stallman/
[07:45] <fc> ivoks, http://localhost:631/admin < new class < location, what is that?
[07:45] <djp> ivoks: is the nv driver the non-restricted driver?
[07:46] <ivoks> fc: classes are classes :) it enables you to print on one class, and that class can contain 10 printers...
[07:46] <ivoks> fc: this way, your print job will go to the printer that will be idle first
[07:46] <ivoks> djp: yes, nv driver is free driver
[07:46] <fc> ivoks, yes, but what do I have to enter in the location input
[07:46] <ivoks> fc: nothing :)
[07:46] <fc> :\
[07:46] <djp> ivoks: thanks
[07:47] <ivoks> bye all
[07:51] <no0tic> hi
[07:51] <no0tic> I'd like to configure Apache-MySQL-PHP to work together, who can help me?
[07:52] <BollocksMacenzie> OK, so I figured it out. ls /dev/hdc (new line) if [  "$?" = 1 ] ; then echo Drive not connected
[07:52] <BollocksMacenzie> fi
[07:53] <mcquaid> does anyone know a way of capping the max volume for alsa?
[07:54] <mcquaid> I don't want users to go above 74% as I get static any higher than that
[07:55] <cajun> how can i figure out what path the OS uses for a particular program to run it?
[07:55] <Tasapaksu> Is there any way to install Steam and Counter-Strike to Ubuntu ?
[07:55] <^thehatsrule^> Tasapaksu: yes, steam
[07:56] <Quest-Master> Tasapaksu: Cedega
[07:56] <Tsukasa> cajun, like where the link from bin goes?
[07:56] <xisco> any one can help me to install my webcam xpress genius?
[07:56] <Epik> is there any risk of f* things up when installing aewm++ on a ubuntu installation??
[07:56] <^thehatsrule^> Tasapaksu: if you meant dedicated server or what?
[07:56] <Tasapaksu> I want to play CS
[07:56] <mcquaid> cajun, well if it's in your path you can type which 'name of program' and it will list where it's located
[07:56] <Quest-Master> Yeah, Cedega then
[07:56] <^thehatsrule^> Tasapaksu: then youll need to emulate it
[07:56] <Tasapaksu> Cedega is not free?
[07:56] <Quest-Master> You can try a CVS version
[07:56] <Tsukasa> you can also type "where <programname>"
[07:57] <Quest-Master> Otherwise, $5 a month for 3 months or just $15 up front
[07:57] <js_> Tsukasa: you mean whereis
[07:57] <Tsukasa> err, yeah
[07:57] <cajun> thx   sounds good
[07:57] <no0tic> I'd like to configure Apache-MySQL-PHP to work together, there's anyone who could help?
[07:58] <virtuald> my /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config has disappeared, can anyone give me theirs?
[07:58] <Epik> am i being ignored or is my question just too stupid?? :S
[07:58] <Tasapaksu> But is Cedega free software?
[07:58] <cajun> and whereis looks for the executable right?   like for firefox i'd type "whereis mozilla-firefox"?
[07:59] <js_> cajun: it checks for PATH and MANPATH for an executable and man page with that name
[07:59] <Tsukasa> Tasapaksu, you can access wineX cvs, it's like cedega except some closed-source components are missing (like copy protection related stuff)
[07:59] <mcquaid> cajun, correct
[07:59] <Tasapaksu> Hmmm
[07:59] <Tasapaksu> So I haft to install wineX
[08:00] <Tsukasa> or you subscribe to transgaming and get the debs
[08:00] <cajun> which is the executable for the browser?  mozilla-firefox or firefox?  same qwuestion for Thunderbird
[08:00] <Tsukasa> ubuntu uses mozilla-firefox
[08:00] <cajun> ok
[08:01] <cajun> and how can i find hidden files to edit when using the Text Editor?
[08:01] <Burgundavia> cajun, just to confuse you, it changes to firefox in breezy
[08:01] <cajun> right now i have to go through the file browser and then just dbl click them
[08:01] <mcquaid> heh
[08:01] <mcquaid> for confusion purposes only
[08:01] <Tsukasa> cajun, the console is capable of intelligent completion
[08:01] <mcquaid> cajun in a term ls -a shows hiddne
[08:02] <cajun> where do i type that?
[08:02] <Tsukasa> that means you can type sudo gedit .x and press tab and well... hidden files beginning with .x will show up
[08:02] <Mestapheles> Mesta
[08:02] <mcquaid> or reveal hidden in naut or whatever browser you use
[08:02] <Tsukasa> err be added
[08:02] <cajun> well waht about for the GUI text editor?
[08:02] <mcquaid> in gedit?
[08:02] <ompaul> cajun, you will see the hidden files as having a starting character of a '.'
[08:03] <cajun> I click Applications/Accessories/Text Editor
[08:03] <swen> Does anyone know how I can use debian unstable sources without getting the "NO_PUBKEY" no public key avaiable error?
[08:03] <mcquaid> ok your using gedit which in the gnome open dialog box which most apps use don't show hidden by default
[08:03] <moire> hi, is there any german chat?
[08:04] <Tsukasa> try #ubuntu-de or #ubuntu.de
[08:04] <cajun> how can i change that setting mcquaid?
[08:04] <moire> thx
[08:04] <mcquaid> right click and choose show hidden
[08:04] <mcquaid> right click where the files and dirs are listed
[08:04] <cajun> will it save that setting?
[08:05] <mcquaid> eh can't remember
[08:05] <mcquaid> ;)
[08:05] <cajun> it dosnt int he Fil browser
[08:05] <mgcross> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[08:05] <mgcross> W: GPG error: http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[08:05] <mgcross> what's THAT about?
[08:05] <cajun> any idea how I can make the File Browswer display hidden files all the tiem?
[08:06] <mcquaid> i've gone back to the dark side with kde so I can't recall
[08:06] <swen> mgcros: yes, something like that
[08:06] <mcquaid> naut was bugging me too much among other things, heck nautilus does'nt even have invert selection, how can they not have that
[08:07] <mgcross> swen, no, I'M getting that error...any ideas?
[08:08] <skull> hi all
[08:08] <swen> mgcross: I'm sorry, didn't read correctly got similar error, also something with repository keys
[08:08] <Akrame> have you got floods ?
[08:09] <mgcross> yah....NOT AUTHENTICATED when I go to install....crap!
[08:09] <cajun> anybody know how to make firefox automatically highlight the URL when you initially click the address bar?  It does that in XP but not doing it on linux, I have to right click then select all each time
[08:09] <mcquaid> double click cajun
[08:09] <skull> i getting an error when i try to open gnomebaker it's say the application "Gnomebaker" has quit unexpectedly
[08:09] <mcquaid> but ctrl L is much handier
[08:09] <mcquaid> i use that all the time
[08:10] <cajun> now i feel like an idiot
[08:11] <skull> i'm getting an error when i try to open gnomebaker it's say the application "Gnomebaker" has quit unexpectedly
[08:11] <disconnected> hi
[08:11] <HiddenWolf> Does anyone here use lirc?
[08:12] <ompaul> HiddenWolf, mostly xchat
[08:12] <mcquaid> skull, any time an app does that, launch it from a terminal instead and you might see a relevent error
[08:12] <sinnlos> can i make that /dev/dsp == /dev/dsp2 not /dev/dsp1 ???
[08:13] <HiddenWolf> ompaul, I've got my reciever/remote working on windows winlirc, but I haven't gotten it to work under ubuntu yet, can you help me?
[08:13] <jeroen_> ompaul, lirc = linux infra-red control
[08:13] <ompaul> HiddenWolf, sorry I was thinking of sirc
[08:13] <HiddenWolf> lol, ok
[08:13] <ompaul> jeroen_, aye
[08:13] <ompaul> I am too tired
[08:13] <jeroen_> ompaul, I get the same
[08:14] <ompaul> http://ftp.fukt.bth.se/pub/movies/stallman/
[08:14] <ompaul> ooops
[08:14] <ompaul> wrong cut and paste
[08:14] <jeroen_> ompaul, good movie?
[08:14] <skull> i'm getting an error when i try to open gnomebaker it's say the application "Gnomebaker" has quit unexpectedly
[08:15] <skull> can someone help me
[08:15] <korCZiz> hi is here somebody from phoenix? i am going to be there on the training, so i would have some question about Phoenix. For example i would know how old must i be if i will drink alcohol? How long take and how much cost making drive pass?
[08:15] <swen> skull: any errors in Console?
[08:15] <ompaul> jeroen_, well I always enjoy reading, listening to him, though it can be a bit of work
[08:15] <maddler> folks... any clue how to get FireFox 1.0.4 on Hoary 64bit?
[08:15] <skull> swen, yes
[08:16] <ompaul> ---->  ## read /usr/share/doc/lirc/README.Debian ## <---- is what I meant to post  just to show that I was going to have a look at it I want to do some serial stuff not lyric stuff
[08:17] <ompaul> is there something to talk over the serial port as easy?
[08:19] <swen> ompaul: something like ckermit?
[08:19] <jimcooncat> Anyone here using hosting service at linode.com or quantact.com? If so, please pm me with your opinion. Ubuntu rocks! I'd like to try it from a faster connection than I have here at home.
[08:20] <HiddenWolf> how do I check if a certain kernel module is loaded?
[08:21] <Juhaz> lsmod?
[08:21] <BollocksMacenzie> Does anyone know how to remove the clock syncronisation line from the boot?
[08:21] <HiddenWolf> And how do I load a module?
[08:21] <swen> modprobe
[08:22] <marc> hello
[08:22] <marc> is there a preconfigured firewall on ubuntu ?
[08:22] <richo> Hi there. Im a former Mandrake user and has just installed ubuntu... i use eth0 and eth1 and want to share internet connection on eth1. are there any built in gui guides or so?
[08:23] <gbic> marc iptables
[08:23] <marc> and which script set it ?
[08:24] <gbic> iptables --help
[08:24] <gbic> read up :)
[08:24] <skull> swen, i wrote you something in a private windows
[08:24] <BollocksMacenzie> How do I find my MAC address?
[08:24] <richo> ;d
[08:24] <gbic> ifconfig
[08:24] <marc> i mean is there a startup script which add some iptables rules ?
[08:24] <gbic> as I said
[08:24] <gbic> iptables --help
[08:25] <Discipulus> I can't mount my CD-Rom drive :-\
[08:26] <richo> Any internetsharing modules or so in ubuntu that i can start or what can i do to get my internetconnection shared from eth0 to eth1?
[08:26] <gbic> use nat
[08:26] <Seveas> richo, firestarter can do that for you
[08:26] <Discipulus> hmm
[08:26] <Seveas> in firestarter it's one button :)
[08:26] <Discipulus> actually, data cd's mount just fine
[08:26] <Blue_Summer> can anyone give me the link to where it says i can download nvidia drivers? is it sudo apt-get install nvidia-glz
[08:26] <Blue_Summer> nvidia-glx
[08:26] <Discipulus> it's Music cd's that won't mount
[08:26] <Blue_Summer> ?
[08:26] <Discipulus> why won't music cd's mount?
[08:26] <Discipulus> they're burnt
[08:26] <Seveas> Discipulus, ehm, music cd's cannot be mounted....
[08:26] <Discipulus> :-\
[08:26] <Seveas> there are no files on them...
[08:26] <Discipulus> Seveas, why?
[08:27] <Seveas> ^---
[08:27] <Discipulus> Seveas, yes there is, my musc....
[08:27] <Discipulus> music*
[08:27] <richo> Seveas, firestarer? is that with ubuntu cd or do i have to dl it?
[08:27] <gbic> marc; check out apf
[08:27] <Juhaz> music tracks aren't files
[08:27] <gbic> might be more along your lines if youre new to iptables
[08:27] <Seveas> you will have to download it with apt-get or synaptic
[08:27] <tiglionabbit> Discipulus: there are programs like KAudioCreator and such that can rip them, and you should be able to play them
[08:27] <Discipulus> oh
[08:27] <Discipulus> alright
[08:27] <AlexBO> Is there anyone that feels like to help me to install a PP Scanner? I've got the UMAX Astra Scanner 1220P with a Parallalel Port connection. It's fully supported by SANE, that's a default installed package in ubuntu 5.04 . it doesn't work. I've try to do a lot of things, changes, but now I don't know what to do.
[08:28] <Seveas> or just play the CD with totem
[08:28] <richo> Seveas, ok thx ill dl it then
[08:28] <Juhaz> although cdfs can virtualize audio cd's as files, dunno if it's in ubuntu repos
[08:29] <Discipulus> how good is the default CD Ripper with Ubuntu?
[08:29] <Discipulus> good or no?
[08:29] <jeroen_> Discipulus, it works
[08:29] <richo> bra eller anus ;)
[08:29] <jimcooncat> AlexBO - may be helpful if you were able to hook up another scanner as a test?
[08:30] <Discipulus> jeroen_, is goobox better?
[08:30] <Juhaz> what's "default cd ripper"? sound-juicer?
[08:30] <jeroen_> Discipulus, no idea
[08:30] <AlexBO> unfortunately i've not an other scanner...
[08:30] <Discipulus> Juhaz, yea
[08:30] <djp> sound juicer rips to ogg vorbis by default also, which is a good thing!
[08:30] <Discipulus> I don't want ogg vorbis
[08:30] <Juhaz> decent enough, I suppose, if the gnome philosophy of not very much in the way of preferences doesn't bother you
[08:30] <Discipulus> I want MP3
[08:31] <Juhaz> and if gstreamer doesn't break
[08:31] <jimcooncat> Stupid stuff -- printer port working, all the pins in the cable, none bent>
[08:32] <Mestapheles> is there a ubuntu RAID howto somewhere?
[08:32] <djp> Discipulus: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/audio/audio.html#Guide
[08:32] <djp> Discipulus: ;)
[08:32] <marc> i dont't understand: the defaut iptables' policy is ACCEPT but all my ports are closed for others computers of my network.
[08:32] <AlexBO> jimcooncat: i haven't understood what have you written.
[08:33] <neighborlee> anyone else seeing ( breezy and yes I know ) update notifier   unable to upgrade gnome-applets and applets-data ?
[08:33] <Discipulus> does XMMS play Ogg Vorbis?
[08:33] <jeroen_> Discipulus, I think it does
[08:33] <djp> Discipulus: yes
[08:34] <HiddenWolf> Is anyone here familiar with lirc?
[08:34] <jeroen_> Discipulus, works with beep-media-player, so prob with xmms aswell
[08:34] <jimcooncat> Sorry, just wondering if your hardware -- printer port and scanner cable -- was ok. Bent cable pins and stuff like that have messed up my day when I thought it was something wrong with the software.
[08:34] <eyequeue>   * Ogg Vorbis files (with the Ogg Vorbis plug-in),
[08:35] <denver> hello, is there a channel for ubuntu in french
[08:35] <jimcooncat> btw, folks -- how can I turn off the dam* system beep when I'm using ubuntu's terminal?
[08:35] <HiddenWolf> denver, #ubuntu-fr
[08:35] <denver> thx
[08:36] <eyequeue>  #ubuntu-fr       54      Channel Ubuntu en francais
[08:36] <eyequeue> populated even
[08:36] <hazem_> Guys am makeing documentaion for Graduation project so which the best program can do this job and help me to make it looks nice ?
[08:36] <AlexBO> well, i've work with this scanner on windows, with the same cable. i think that the cable was okey
[08:36] <ompaul> swen, ckermit now there is a thought :)
[08:36] <AlexBO> jimcooncat: well, i've work with this scanner on windows, with the same cable. i think that the cable was okey
[08:36] <ompaul> swen, I was off eating dinner
[08:36] <eyequeue> hazem_:  something like latex?
[08:37] <hazem_> maybe
[08:37] <jimcooncat> hazem_: nvu and publish in html!
[08:37] <AlexBO> jimcooncat: can i speak to you in private?
[08:38] <skull> swen, yes, my cdrom is /dev/hdc
[08:38] <hazem_> jimcooncat: i found lyx ... it is good?
[08:38] <jimcooncat> sure AlexBO
[08:38] <jimcooncat> sorry hazem_ haven't tried it.
[08:38] <hazem_> okay i will try all :)
[08:39] <Whistler> how to wiev kernel version?
[08:39] <eyequeue> lyx is what i used when i wanted a simple interface to latex
[08:39] <Whistler> view
[08:39] <hazem_> i have to 3 days to finish documentation :)
[08:39] <eyequeue> Whistler:  uname -r
[08:39] <ompaul> AlexBO, scanner, is that a 1d barcode or 2d one?
[08:39] <Hoxzer> does ubuntu automaticaly find the slave HDD?'
[08:40] <lsuactiafner> am havin trouble readin ata disks in linux
[08:40] <lsuactiafner> kernel only sees atapi disks and sata
[08:40] <{Seb}> has anyone got NetworkManager working on Breezy>
[08:40] <AlexBO> ompaul: i don't know what's a ld barcode or 2d one. can you explain me?
[08:41] <lsuactiafner> kernel 2.6.12
[08:41] <lsuactiafner> anything i can try to do to fix it?
[08:41] <ompaul> AlexBO, 1d barcode is what you see on the side of a can of beans or most goods in a shop, two d is much more information in the form of a bitmapped image
[08:43] <ryu> hi
[08:43] <AlexBO> ompaul: well, i think it's 2d
[08:43] <ompaul> ahh
[08:43] <AlexBO> ompaul: can i speak to you in private?
[08:43] <ryu> can someone please help mei with an network problem?
[08:44] <ompaul> AlexBO, you can, but I don't know too much I have not got my 5v supply to make mine talk to my software
[08:44] <alex__> ompaul: can i speak to you in private?
[08:44] <ompaul> alex__,  you can
[08:45] <Discipulus> ryu, state the problem and if someone can help they will
[08:45] <lsuactiafner> only finds sata, cdroms/dvd but not the ata disks
[08:45] <ryu> ok, in my network-admin is the button missing, where i can configure a new device
[08:47] <kasper_> Any easy way to install a boot splash in ubuntu?
[08:48] <mike333> yea system > administration
[08:48] <mike333> login screen setup
[08:50] <jeroen_> kasper_, while booting? Or when choosing operating-system with Grub?
[08:50] <kasper_> jeroen_: while booting
[08:50] <jeroen_> kasper_, maybe Splashy, but it doesn't work for my sister's system (couldn't install it)
[08:51] <jeroen_> http://splashy.alioth.debian.org/
[08:51] <tiglionabbit> kasper_: there is, just look at the forums
[08:51] <tiglionabbit> you don't need splashy
[08:51] <tiglionabbit> it's a configuration in grub
[08:51] <gbic> god my allergies are off the hook today
[08:52] <gbic> If nasal congestion was a money maker, I'd be Trump
[08:52] <tiglionabbit> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30341
[08:52] <jeroen_> tiglionabbit, that's not *while* booting!
[08:53] <tiglionabbit> jeroen_: huh?
[08:53] <tiglionabbit> oh you mean after the grub menu?
[08:53] <HiddenWolf> `crimsun, could you please give me a rundown on how to build those modules?
[08:53] <jeroen_> tiglionabbit, no, thats what *(s)he* means
[08:53] <`crimsun> HiddenWolf, extra-tree or intra-tree?
[08:55] <HiddenWolf> `crimsun, I just want to make this work for me, however possible, and I'd like to see them included in the default kernel at one piont.
[08:55] <pig> hi. i need some help
[08:55] <`crimsun> HiddenWolf, did you install those three packages I mentioned?
[08:55] <jeroen_> pig, just ask
[08:55] <pig> k
[08:56] <pig> its seems that my ubuntu installation dont work very well
[08:56] <pig> it boots
[08:56] <pig> but eventually get stuck
[08:56] <HiddenWolf> `crimsun, yes - build-essential, module-assistant, linux-headers, lirc-modules-source, ggc, etc
[08:56] <pig> in a black screen
[08:56] <`crimsun> HiddenWolf, (build-essential pulls in gcc automatically)
[08:56] <pig> sorry, my spanglish rox, i know...
[08:56] <jeroen_> pig, there is a spanish channel
[08:57] <HiddenWolf> `crimsun, my piont :)
[08:57] <`crimsun> HiddenWolf, there are instructions in /usr/share/doc/lirc-modules-source/README*
[08:57] <pig> what's the chan ?
[08:57] <`crimsun> HiddenWolf, come again?
[08:58] <jeroen_> pig, it's alwasy #ubuntu-languagecode
[08:58] <pig> k
[08:58] <pig> tx
[08:58] <jeroen_> pig, but I don't know the spanish langcode
[08:58] <zever> pig, #ubuntu-es
[08:58] <pig> es
[08:58] <HiddenWolf> `crimsun, nm
[08:58] <pig> tx
[08:59] <psh1> hi all. i'm trying to build a kernel, but when it boots it stops loading before the init process, but there's no panic message
[08:59] <jeexor> Someone help me with setup DHCP terminal server with ubuntu ??
[08:59] <psh1> any ideas whats up with the config?
[09:00] <HiddenWolf> `crimsun, lots of cannot open, no such file errors untarring the source. :S
[09:01] <`crimsun> HiddenWolf, well, the source is in /usr/src
[09:01] <HiddenWolf> `crimsun, I did cd. :)
[09:01] <jeexor> anybody know ?
[09:01] <HiddenWolf> hidde@system:/usr/src$ tar -xzf lirc-modules.tar.gz
[09:02] <`crimsun> HiddenWolf, so they should be extracted to modules/...
[09:03] <Geir_G> Hi, anybody know how to do an apt-cache search on a specific maintainer?
[09:03] <airmikey> anyone here running vmware
[09:03] <airmikey> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[09:03] <airmikey> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[09:03] <HiddenWolf> `crimsun, yeah, there now: ./modules/lirc
[09:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes why?
[09:03] <Seveas> apt-cache search --full $maintainername
[09:05] <Geir_G> Thanks Seveas, but that doesn't seem to work
[09:05] <Geir_G> I'm doing a apt-cache search --full Marillat
[09:06] <Geir_G> returns blank
[09:06] <psh1> any ideas whats up with the kernel config, anyone?
[09:07] <`crimsun> psh1, what about it?
[09:07] <Spooks> Hi all
[09:07] <`crimsun> HiddenWolf, did you see the instructions in the README*?
[09:07] <Geir_G> airmikey: If you have the headers installed it usuall is just that
[09:08] <psh1> `crimsun, i've built a kernel, but it wont boot. but there's no kernel panic message. it just stops before the init process
[09:08] <jeroen_> How do I play .mp4 files with Ubuntu?
[09:08] <Hoxzer> hmm, somebody else have had problems with Ubuntu AMD64 live CD?
[09:08] <HiddenWolf> `crimsun, trying to make sense of them
[09:09] <Hoxzer> it just frozes in some random places for like 15mins
[09:09] <`crimsun> jeroen_, you need to install libfaad2, among other packages
[09:09] <HiddenWolf> `crimsun, it's not really working out for me tho. :S
[09:10] <`crimsun> psh1, presuming the kernel was compiled and installed correctly, did you update grub/lilo?
[09:10] <Hoxzer> lol dont froze
[09:10] <Hoxzer> :D
[09:10] <psh1> `crimsun, yeah i've changed the grub config, not sure whats wrong. i think it's something to do with the config
[09:11] <Hoxzer> "configuring graphics hardware (the screen may blank).... 73%
[09:11] <Hoxzer> wonderful
[09:11] <Hoxzer> .... no way :D
[09:11] <Hoxzer> well we'll wait for 10mins
[09:11] <Hoxzer> then I have to sleep
[09:11] <Hoxzer> wtf is it with this
[09:12] <HiddenWolf> `crimsun, what's the kernel version/revision number?
[09:12] <Sewa_Kan> hi
[09:12] <Hoxzer> I'm afraid I have some hardware issues ;/
[09:12] <Hoxzer> just installed new mother board
[09:12] <Sewa_Kan> how can i shut up the buzzer plz?
[09:12] <Fabian> hello everyone
[09:12] <jeroen_> `crimsun, is libfaad in multiverse or what?
[09:13] <Sewa_Kan> how can i shut up the fuckin'buzzer plz?
[09:13] <`crimsun> jeroen_, debian-marillat
[09:13] <jeroen_> `crimsun, no thanks
[09:13] <`crimsun> HiddenWolf, the README in /usr/src/modules/lirc
[09:13] <jeroen_> suck so much
[09:14] <jeroen_> it's the go-open video! :@
[09:14] <jeroen_> and it doesn't work with Ubuntu! That is sooooo evil
[09:14] <`crimsun> HiddenWolf, read the non-make-kpkg method
[09:15] <`crimsun> HiddenWolf, namely, debian/rules KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) binary-modules
[09:15] <Hoxzer> aargh is there any linux live CD that just goes to console and I could copy my important saved files from HDD?
[09:15] <Fabian> question: when trying to use bittorrent I get the following error: rejected by tracker     Port 6881 is blacklisted                 What can I do about that? The Port is forwarded through my router!
[09:16] <HiddenWolf> `crimsun, do i need to install kernel source too?
[09:16] <`crimsun> HiddenWolf, no. I gave you all the instructions.
[09:16] <Hoxzer> Fabian: 6881 is a default port for bittorrent and ISP's know that and they could limit it and thats why some trackers wont allow that port
[09:16] <Hoxzer> just change it
[09:17] <Blue_Summer> guys if i run command: tar -xvzf  cedega-[version] .tgz (enterd version ofc) where would it install my version?
[09:17] <Blue_Summer> sorry i mean : dpkg  -i  cedega_[version] .deb
[09:17] <jf6> hi all
[09:17] <jf6> how to uninstall GAIM?
[09:17] <tiglionabbit> Blue_Summer: use dpkg -L and the name of the package it says it just "selected"
[09:17] <cmatheson> jf6:  aptitude uninstall gaim
[09:17] <Blue_Summer> kk
[09:17] <bpuccio> jf6: you can go in to synaptic and search ofr the package and remove it there
[09:18] <Fabian> Hoxzer, how can I change that for GNOME BitTorrent?
[09:18] <jf6> cmatheson thanks a lot
[09:18] <HiddenWolf> `crimsun, make: *** [build-stamp]  Error 2
[09:18] <jf6> bpuccio thx
[09:18] <Hoxzer> Fabian: I think you cant
[09:18] <Hoxzer> just go to console and write btdownloadcurses --maxport 2000 --minport 1000 file.torrent
[09:18] <`crimsun> HiddenWolf, did you read the README?
[09:19] <HiddenWolf> `crimsun, read, yes, understand, perhaps
[09:19] <MikeStyle> um hi guys, i ran sudo apt-get install kde and installed the kde enviornment on ubuntu but when i tried to change to the theme it stayed with the human theme
[09:19] <Fabian> Hoxzer, in the location where that torrent file is?
[09:19] <`crimsun> MikeStyle, it's kubuntu-desktop
[09:20] <MikeStyle> `crimson, so sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[09:20] <jeroen_> MikeStyle, yes
[09:20] <MikeStyle> thank you
[09:20] <jeroen_> MikeStyle, that iwll install kde and all the apps
[09:20] <Hoxzer> Fabien: yep'
[09:23] <s1m0> hi
[09:23] <`crimsun> HiddenWolf, you need to choose which specific driver you want, else you'll have to install all the build-deps
[09:24] <`crimsun> HiddenWolf, you have to read and understand both README.make and README
[09:24] <gpd> anyone got any advice on getting sound to work on chroot'd 32Bit system?
[09:25] <HiddenWolf> `crimsun, both those files seem to asume full kernel sources to be installed.
[09:25] <gpd> I followed the guide and the forum but still no luck with /dev/dsp :(
[09:26] <Hoxzer> hey, im running ubuntu live
[09:26] <Hoxzer> how can I acces to my HDD?
[09:26] <Fabian> How can I edit the entrie in the topleft menu?
[09:26] <Toba> is there a reason that the sceensaver daemon will just stop working from time to time?
[09:26] <Toba> I found that I can't lock screen sometimes, and I figured out that the screensaver daemon was down
[09:26] <HiddenWolf> `crimsun, README.make tells me to build the driver first, to the best of my knowledge that's lirc_serial, but building it exits with an error
[09:27] <`crimsun> HiddenWolf, then you'll need to install the kernel source (linux-source-2.6.10), extract it in /usr/src, and go from there. Remember to pass the correct KSRC parameter to debian/rules.
[09:27] <`crimsun> I have to go now.
[09:28] <Toba> bah
[09:28] <Toba> I guess I'
[09:28] <scott> anyone know of a legal music site that has mp3s and works in linux?
[09:28] <Toba> ll just have to restart it every so often
[09:28] <Toba> www.legaltorrents.com
[09:28] <jeroen_> scott, ogg is more linux-friendly
[09:28] <scott> jeroen_: I really doubt there's a music purchasing site that has oggs
[09:29] <Toba> purchasing != free
[09:29] <scott> I want mainstream stuff, not bizarre unknown music
[09:29] <eyequeue> purchasing?
[09:29] <Hoxzer> aargh how can I acces to  my Hard driver in Ubuntu live ;/
[09:29] <scott> yeah, it doesn't have to be free
[09:29] <HiddenWolf> `crimsun, thanks
[09:29] <Toba> heh
[09:29] <Toba> try using itunes with wine maybe
[09:29] <Toba> you can get it for windows
[09:29] <cmatheson> Hoxzer:  mount it (mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/<foo>)
[09:30] <Kyral> Anyone know how to get Guification Themes for Gaim working?
[09:31] <cmatheson> Kyral:  aptitude install gaim-guifications
[09:31] <cmatheson> Kyral:  and then enable it in the plugin's listings
[09:31] <Kyral> I have it working
[09:31] <aCiD2> What is the command for listing all the currently loaded modules?
[09:31] <jeroen_> aCiD2, lsmod
[09:31] <jewel32> aCiD2: lsmod
[09:31] <cmatheson> aCiD2:  lsmod
[09:31] <aCiD2> ah, thats the one!
[09:31] <aCiD2> :)
[09:31] <Kyral> I'm trying to get themes from SF to work
[09:31] <gpd> nobody using AMD64 then?
[09:31] <jewel32> Kyral: You just unzip them in the right place
[09:31] <jewel32> Kyral: Let me go get one real fast and remember how to do it.
[09:32] <cmatheson> Kyral:  untar them in ~/.gaim/guifications/themes
[09:32] <Kyral> Do you have one of the Aquas?
[09:32] <Hoxzer> hmmm
[09:32] <Fabian> Hoxzer, how do I resume with this shell-based torrent? same command?
[09:32] <cmatheson> Kyral:  yeah
[09:32] <Kyral> I can't get the recent one to unzip right
[09:32] <Hoxzer> Fabian: yes
[09:33] <Kyral> gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--crc error
[09:33] <Kyral> tar: Child returned status 1
[09:33] <Kyral> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[09:33] <jewel32> Kyral: what's the link?
[09:33] <Hoxzer> cmatheson: it wont moun it "mount: mount point /mnt/hdd1 does not exist ;//
[09:33] <Hoxzer> god damnit
[09:34] <Kyral> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1061308&group_id=92888&atid=676821
[09:34] <tiglionabbit> Hoxzer: that means you need to create that folder first
[09:34] <Fabian> Hoxzer, thx
[09:34] <tiglionabbit> Hoxzer: juts make an empty folder.  Mount doesn't create the folder itself
[09:34] <cmatheson> Hoxzer:  you need to make that directory
[09:34] <Hoxzer> ok
[09:34] <Hoxzer> mkdir
[09:35] <HiddenWolf> How can I figure out which I/O port a device is using?
[09:35] <Hoxzer> hmmm I see it
[09:36] <Hoxzer> I wont understand like nonthing ;/
[09:36] <Fabian> leaving
[09:36] <Fabian> cu
[09:36] <Hoxzer> there is like only .mdm ffiles ;/
[09:36] <jewel32> Kyral: You're right, it's not a valid .tar.gz
[09:37] <tiglionabbit> Hoxzer: ?
[09:37] <Kyral> *falls down*
[09:37] <Hoxzer> seems like :D my "repair windows install" has been removed all my files
[09:37] <Hoxzer> windows is good
[09:37] <seth_k> mmm Windows
[09:37] <Hoxzer> this realy sucks
[09:37] <Hoxzer> :D
[09:37] <tiglionabbit> what happened?
[09:38] <mrpickles> http://bearjuice.jollyrogersband.com/
[09:38] <Kyral> and what is the right dir for themes anyway?
[09:38] <tiglionabbit> lol bear juice
[09:39] <Hoxzer> Tigli: I tryed to repair my windows install couse it would't boot after hardware update well it could't install it to end becouse it always ended to blue screen when I entered to final part of the installation after boot
[09:39] <jewel32> Kyral: ~/.gaim/guifications/themes
[09:39] <Hoxzer> seems like it has deleted all my files :<
[09:39] <Hoxzer> damn
[09:39] <MikeStyle> hi, um i did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and it still looks like the human ubuntu theme
[09:39] <Riddell> MikeStyle: make sure you're logging in to KDE
[09:39] <Kyral> I was off by ONE S!!
[09:39] <tiglionabbit> Hoxzer: uh, I'm not completely sure what you said, but um, use Ubuntu.  It's good
[09:39] <Hoxzer> well have to reinstall windows then and forget all save games
[09:39] <MikeStyle> Riddell, i think i am...but im not sure
[09:40] <Hoxzer> Tigli: yep but games doesnt support ubuntu
[09:40] <misfit_toy> is the marillat repo dead? I am trying to run the .sh script from ubuntuforums for new installs, the one that loads all the goodies like mp3, dvd, etc...and I'm guessing my sources.list needs updating. I have used the one suggested there but it doesn't work.
[09:40] <TimmyJ> anyone know of a program suited towards watching TV on ur computer while doing other things (like the abilitiy to resize, make fullscreen, but still change channels) I don't need to be able to fast forward and rewind liveTV (although it would be nice:P)
[09:40] <Riddell> MikeStyle: well KDE looks quite different (blue, not brown)
[09:40] <HiddenWolf> TimmyJ, tvtime
[09:40] <tiglionabbit> Hoxzer: buy cedega
[09:40] <TimmyJ> thx, i'll check it out :)
[09:40] <mrpickles> http://bearjuice.jollyrogersband.com/
[09:40] <MikeStyle> Riddell, when i logged in it used the kubuntu login screen, but now that im in, the theme is still human, just a darker brown
[09:41] <jeroen_> TimmyJ, it's quite cool :-)
[09:41] <Riddell> MikeStyle: I suspect that's gnome, change the session to KDE when you log in
[09:41] <MikeStyle> Riddell, okay
[09:42] <TimmyJ> doesn't work w/ ivtv drivers :(
[09:43] <TimmyJ> any other suggestions?
[09:43] <MikeStyle> Thank you so much Riddell, it worked
[09:43] <richo> Seveas, i tried lookup firestarter in synaptic but i cant find it
[09:45] <eyequeue> richo:  universe
[09:45] <richo> eyequeue, ?!
[09:45] <jf6> how to uninstall enemy territory please?
[09:45] <eyequeue> richo:  or backports
[09:46] <eyequeue> richo:  dists/hoary-backports/universe/binary-i386/firestarter_1.0.3-1.1~5.04ubp1_i386.deb
[09:46] <yuacht> what's the terminal commando to create a image file off a cd? a .iso
[09:46] <tomtomgo> Hello People!
[09:47] <richo> eyequeue, thx but i cant find that in my synaptic what to do?
[09:47] <eyequeue> richo:  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:47] <richo> k
[09:51] <mcquaid> god damn does anyone else go through this?!  my gf keeps arguing with me that she wants to be able to have root access if she encounters a problem
[09:52] <mcquaid> i told her i trust her intent not her abilities
[09:52] <gbic> In order to have localhost listen on port 443 do I need apache running for it to listen on that port?
[09:52] <jeroen_> mcquaid, give her a separate partition?
[09:52] <gbic> give her jailed "rewt" access
[09:52] <gbic> hehe
[09:53] <bpuccio> mcquaid: does she have her own system?
[09:53] <mcquaid> i told her, if she wants root, i'll install her own version of linux and she can destroy it as much as she likes
[09:53] <mcquaid> for whatever damn reason she wants this one's root
[09:54] <mcquaid> and no she doesn't have her own system we share this puter
[09:54] <mcquaid> i'd love to give her jailed root, if there was such as thing
[09:54] <bpuccio> mcquaid: then no
[09:55] <aimaz> what is the program to convert between unix and windows newline types in text files?
[09:55] <gbic> In order to have localhost listen on port 443 do I need apache running for it to listen on that port?
[09:55] <gbic> or how can I have it listen on port 443
[09:55] <bpuccio> mcquaid: my gf has her own computer and I told her how to do basic things that require a sudo here and there, but then again, I image her entire disk nightly so worst case scenario, she has to step back a day
[09:55] <bionic> Anyone ever experienced pc freezes after a while when the screensaver is on? Ati drivers... Comp is very stable when i disable the screensaver, when its enabled the comp freezes everytime after a while..?
[09:56] <eyequeue> dos2unix (1)         - Converts text files between DOS and Unix formats.
[09:56] <mcquaid> bpuccio, but you don't give her root to your box right?
[09:56] <aimaz> eyequeue, thanks
[09:56] <mcquaid> it'll be a cold day in hell before i give her root to this box
[09:56] <HeliumFX> Question, is ubuntu good for a file server or would i be better using another distro
[09:56] <eyequeue> sysutils: /usr/bin/dos2unix
[09:56] <eyequeue> np
[09:56] <bpuccio> mcquaid: of course not, I'm not stupid
[09:56] <mcquaid> exactly
[09:57] <aimaz> bionic, I had a problem with certain screensavers, I think it turned out to be an out of date nvidia driver, but that was on a debian box, not had any trouble in ubuntu
[09:57] <mcquaid> but she won't stop bustin my chops over it for whatever reason
[09:57] <mcquaid> heh it's just dumb relationship bs
[09:57] <bpuccio> mcquaid: offer a trade, something she'll never go for, you'll give her root when she lets you have threesomes or something
[09:58] <mcquaid> lol
[09:58] <phoinix> I've just installed ubuntu
[09:58] <phoinix> !
[09:58] <ubotu> I don't know, phoinix
[09:58] <richo> eyequeue, thx now its comming down ;)
[09:58] <eyequeue> mcquaid:  there's more to root than admin, perhaps that's it?
[09:59] <phoinix> hello from greece!
[09:59] <eyequeue> mcquaid:  as in the ability to read all your (non-encrypted) data?
[09:59] <gpd> just installed amd64 hoary and chroot 32 bit system... but no sound  :(
[09:59] <mcquaid> i hear what your saying, naw i have nothing to hide in my own
[09:59] <mcquaid> although she breaks my balls when she finds my porn
[10:00] <Fabian> Hello, I just tried to watch a DVD but it sais, that I do not have libdvdcss tried to search and install it whith synaptics, but that didn't work. What do I do?
[10:00] <mcquaid> but ya eyequeue i think that is her motvies
[10:00] <mcquaid> to have access to my home
[10:01] <mcquaid> women like to snoop
[10:01] <mcquaid> and that bugs me
[10:01] <mcquaid> so i guess it becomes a trust issue
[10:01] <eyequeue> cfsd (8)             - cryptographic file system daemon
[10:01] <mcquaid> she was used to in windows that everything was shared back in my win98 days
[10:01] <budluva> Fabian, try libdvdcss2
[10:01] <jewel32> Fabian: I believe it's in multiverse
[10:01] <pepsix> did i man?
[10:02] <Fabian> budluva, nothing like libdvdcssXY in synaptic
[10:02] <Fabian> jewel32, there's no multiverse package
[10:02] <jewel32> Fabian: Sorry, you're right
[10:02] <budluva> Fabian, apt-get install libdvdcss2-dev
[10:02] <Fabian> eyequeue, cfsd, was that for me?
[10:03] <eyequeue> Fabian:  no, for mcquaid
[10:03] <Fabian> eyequeue, ok
[10:03] <hellfire> Has anyone used comsams
[10:03] <Fabian> budluva, does not work...
[10:03] <hellfire> with samsung sgh e700?
[10:03] <budluva> Fabian, get your sources fixed
[10:04] <Fabian> budluva, how do I do that?
[10:04] <budluva> Fabian, ubuntuguide.org
[10:04] <budluva> Fabian, either that or your not su'd
[10:04] <jewel32> Fabian: according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats, the libdvdcss2 is in backports
[10:05] <jewel32> Fabian: On that page it also says that you can run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[10:05] <budluva> Fabian, sorry, used to debian, did you try sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[10:05] <budluva> ?
[10:06] <freddy> HELLO!!!
[10:06] <k4rp0r> hi
[10:06] <freddy> i love everytime i boot my ubuntu
[10:06] <freddy> i feel complete
[10:06] <rob_> hey freddy
[10:06] <misfit_toy> is the marillat repo dead? I am trying to run the .sh script from ubuntuforums for new installs, the one that loads all the goodies like mp3, dvd, etc...and I'm guessing my sources.list needs updating. I have used the one suggested there but it doesn't work. Does anyone have a superb sources.list I could get?
[10:07] <rob_> freddy,  so do i w00t
[10:07] <eyequeue> i need to reboot soon too (new kernel)
[10:07] <freddy> at least on my laptop :) cause on my desktop my tv card wont work :(
[10:07] <topyli> misfit_toy: ubuntuforums is not always accurate. also, marillat sources don't work, they're for debian
[10:07] <freddy> another question...what is kubuntu?
[10:07] <eyequeue> misfit_toy:  i thought marillat was deprecated in favor of backports?
[10:07] <jewel32> misfit_toy: you can install mp3 support from universe
[10:07] <budluva> freddy, ubuntu, but with kde instead of gnome
[10:08] <freddy> i mean i googled but it is the same distro with kde?
[10:08] <rob_> freddy,  kubuntu is ubuntu with the kde desktop instead of gnome
[10:08] <freddy> O_o thats kinda like...a waste
[10:08] <rob_> freddy,  yes it is
[10:08] <rob_> lol
[10:08] <freddy> anlol
[10:08] <freddy> err
[10:08] <freddy> lol
[10:08] <rob_> freddy,  i use xfce and gnome :P
[10:08] <misfit_toy> I want to run the script though that install ALL the good stuff, has no one used that? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646&page=1&pp=10
[10:08] <Fabian> budluva, tried both! My sources are uncommented already
[10:08] <freddy> so for xcfe you have to name it like Xubuntu?
[10:08] <freddy> lol
[10:09] <budluva> Fabian, you have http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ in there somewhere?
[10:09] <freddy> jesus im using the xcompositing...on gnome...shadows and stuff.....god damn it is awesome
[10:09] <freddy> oh..but kubuntu is free too?
[10:09] <rob_> freddy,  XFCE can run with ubuntu installed lol
[10:09] <rob_> freddy,  yes it is
[10:09] <eyequeue> freddy:  there is actually a project to do just that, and called ... xubuntu, lol
[10:09] <rob_> lol
[10:10] <freddy> eyequeue, lmao
[10:10] <eyequeue> bubuntu == blackbox wm? lol
[10:10] <hellfire> Has anyone used comsams?
[10:10] <tiglionabbit> what about fubuntu for fluxbox?
[10:10] <freddy> HAHA
[10:10] <pinko> flubuxtu
[10:10] <terrex> xdddddd
[10:10] <budluva> Fabian, http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[10:10] <rob_> freddy,  after u've added extra repositories type sudo apt-get install xfce4 then when u next log in click session and choose it from the list :P if u don't like it you can click session and click gnome again :P
[10:10] <budluva> Fabian, then apt-get install libdvdcss2
[10:10] <topyli> misfit_toy: since the script obviously doesn't work, why do you want to run it? :)
[10:11] <Burgundavia> budluva, please don't recommend ubuntuguide
[10:11] <rob_> Budluva your not supposed to recommend ubuntuguide
[10:11] <freddy> rob^, gonna try it
[10:11] <freddy> but my priority right now is to install my tv card
[10:11] <freddy> :(
[10:11] <hitest> What's wrong with ubuntu guide?
[10:11] <pinko> what's wrong with it?
[10:11] <Burgundavia> inaccurate and often wrong
[10:11] <pinko> I've never been there, but...
[10:11] <Burgundavia> no explainations
[10:12] <hitest> Okay, didn't know that, thanks.
[10:12] <budluva> well i use ubuntuguide's sources.list and i have no problems with libdvdcss2, just trying to help a brother out
[10:12] <tiglionabbit> yeah it doesn't explain stuff, but it gets the repositories ok
[10:12] <Burgundavia> budluva, the wiki also has good sources
[10:12] <freddy> the wiki is the bomb
[10:12] <DeCaoS> why in gb.archive.ububtu has php4-odbc or odbc-postgresql and in archive.ubuntu.com doesn't have :(
[10:13] <pinko> I'm going to start a poor-quality microsoftguide.com and watch their empire crumble
[10:13] <rob_> budluva well i use ubuntuguide's sources.list and i have no problems with libdvdcss2, just trying to help a brother out
[10:13] <eyequeue> the wiki is nice, plus easily edited if need be
[10:13] <budluva> rob_, ?
[10:13] <rob_> i got mine from ubuntuguide.org aswel it was good but it says in the rules not to because it is often wrong budluva
[10:13] <budluva> rules?
[10:13] <budluva> since when was there rules for using linux?
[10:14] <tiglionabbit> budluva: maybe they mean the rules of the irc channel
[10:14] <budluva> maybe
[10:14] <freddy> i have a question, its not that i find REALLY anoying old the text that flows thru the screen when i boot ubuntu, but since i installed this on my mothers laptop, that freaks her out, and she wants something prettier.....is there a way that i can "mask" that black screen?
[10:14] <Fabian> budluva, yes, I have all lines uncommented. when doint apt-get install libdvdcss2 it sais, I do have the newest version
[10:14] <hitest> I'll pass along the observation that the guide is sometimes wrong to my fellow ubuntu users.  Is it also because it is not officially sanctioned by ubuntu?
[10:14] <topyli> budluva: in systems, things are correct or they are incorrect. "rules" come from that :)
[10:14] <budluva> Fabian, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[10:14] <freddy> s/old/all
[10:14] <budluva> Fabian, then try again
[10:15] <Fabian> budluva, however, totem still searches for libdvdcss
[10:15] <tiglionabbit> freddy: I believe they are working on that for breezy..
[10:15] <Fabian> budluva, still sais, I got the newest version
[10:15] <rob_> budluva,  someone sent me a link earlier, im talking bout the rules of irc server obviously >_>
[10:15] <zendak> budluva and tiglionabbit: reasons for the "rule" are given here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[10:15] <rob_> there is it
[10:16] <freddy> i thought there was a way of adding like an image....while all that text goe
[10:16] <freddy> goes*
[10:17] <Fabian> budluva, and totem still searches for that libdvdcss
[10:17] <cee-jay> I see the Breezy warning on the screen...  that alone may answer my questions :)
[10:18] <eyequeue> okay, new kernel, brb
[10:18] <jtorq> freddy, http://www.bootsplash.org/
[10:18] <jeroen_> cee-jay, nah, Breezy's cool
[10:18] <budluva> Fabian, ok, explain what your problem is again, your trying to play a dvd in totem and it gives you an error that libdvdcss is not installed?
[10:18] <jeroen_> a lil' bit unstable
[10:18] <jtorq> I've never got it to work, but it looks interesting :)
[10:18] <Fabian> budluva, when trying to apt-get install libdvdcss, it sais that there is another package referencing it, or something
[10:18] <jtorq> I know SuSE uses it
[10:18] <jeroen_> cee-jay, when installed on a separate partition: no problem
[10:18] <cee-jay> it works for me except I can't mount my cdroms
[10:18] <freddy> jtorq, holy shiat thats what i want
[10:19] <cee-jay> any clues?
[10:19] <budluva> Fabian, apt-get install libdvdcss2
[10:19] <Fabian> budluva, it sais, that it can't read the DVD. and it sais, that it's probably, because I don't have libdvdcss
[10:19] <budluva> Fabian, your forgetting the 2 :P
[10:19] <Fabian> budluva, no, didn't forget the 2. tried both
[10:19] <budluva> and it wont install them because you already have it installed?
[10:19] <freddy> jtorq, suse, gentoo, well gentoo only when you boot from the livecd
[10:19] <freddy> mandrake
[10:19] <topyli> Fabian: you don't have the repository containing the libdvdcss package
[10:19] <Fabian> budluva, yes
[10:20] <topyli> Fabian: if that's what apt says
[10:20] <budluva> topyli, apparently he does
[10:20] <topyli> ah
[10:21] <tatiana> i have a friend on the fone who is trying to dialout on her modem, but never having owned a modem i'm not sure how to get her to do that after configuring everything in the networks area
[10:21] <topyli> so how come apt says "another package is referencing iit, or something"? that's what apt says when the package can't be found
[10:21] <budluva> Fabian, apt-cache search libdvdcss2
[10:21] <budluva> Fabian, what does it come up with?
[10:22] <freddy> woah modem, never configured one before
[10:22] <budluva> Fabian, if it comes up with nothing you don't have your repos setup correctly
[10:22] <Fabian> budluva, libdvdcss2 - a portable abstraction library for DVD decryption
[10:22] <tatiana> heh me either
[10:22] <budluva> k
[10:22] <tatiana> and it seems gnome-ppp is not on the ubuntu cd
[10:22] <tatiana> so bc shes on dialup i can't have her add a repository & go get wvdial or gnome-ppp either
[10:23] <freddy> apt-get install gnome-app?
[10:23] <freddy> ah shit
[10:23] <freddy> how
[10:23] <freddy> lol
[10:23] <budluva> Fabian, i would suggest removing then installing again
[10:23] <tatiana> ya
[10:23] <cee-jay> is this channel ok for newbie questions, or is the atmosphere more expert-oriented?
[10:23] <budluva> Fabian, apt-get remove libdvdcss2 && apt-get install libdvdcss2
[10:23] <freddy> cee-jay, shoot
[10:23] <freddy> tatiana, i really have no idea
[10:23] <tatiana> k this sucks heh
[10:23] <tatiana> erg me either :\
[10:23] <cee-jay> well, i've installed Breezy and I'm using it OK, but can't mount cdrom drives
[10:23] <freddy> :(
[10:23] <freddy> sorry
[10:24] <freddy> tatiana, ubuntuforums?
[10:24] <tatiana> i would of thought that in networks section would be a button to just dialout on
[10:24] <tatiana> but there isn't
[10:24] <freddy> lemme check a bit for ya
[10:24] <tatiana> k ty
[10:25] <cee-jay> obviously it installed from the CD, so I'm not sure why it doesn't like to mount one now.  Works ok on my windows partition
[10:25] <rob_> can anyone give me the command to install JRE? (Java Runtime Envrionment)
[10:25] <budluva> rob_, make sure you have the right repos and apt-get install sun-jre1.5
[10:26] <rob_> budluva, i added the extra from ubuntu guide will that do?
[10:26] <rob_> nope
[10:26] <rob_> budluva,  how do i add the right repo for that?
[10:26] <gpd> strange... I have sound from within chroot'd 32bit from flash but not from ogle / other dvd players?
[10:26] <cee-jay> i should mention that this is my first working linux install (non liveCD), so please be gentle (obvious).  OK...take your time.
[10:26] <Fabian> budluva, libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referenced by another package. this means, that it's too old, not available, or available through another source   <-- that's what apt-get install libdvdcss2 sais.... sorry for bad translation from german to english
[10:27] <freddy> tatiana, <----needs help....and cash to pay the phone call
[10:27] <rob_> lol
[10:27] <budluva> rob_, i'd tell you but its against the rules
[10:27] <rob_> lol
[10:27] <rob_> budluva,  dont be cross with me its not my rules :(
[10:28] <budluva> rob_, i pasted the link to Fabian before
[10:28] <tatiana> lol freddy
[10:28] <Fabian> budluva, what link?
[10:29] <budluva> Fabian, for extra repos
[10:30] <budluva> Fabian, as for you, i have no idea why apt won't install libdvdcss2
[10:30] <budluva> Fabian, post me your sources.list for me in #flood
[10:31] <eyequeue> does he have hoary-extras?
[10:31] <eyequeue> Filename: dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/libdvdcss2_1.2.8-1~5.04ubp1_i386.deb
[10:32] <eyequeue> (and restricted, at that)
[10:33] <eyequeue> something like deb http://acm.cs.umn.edu/ubp hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[10:33] <budluva> dunno, waiting for him to post his sources.list in #flood for me
[10:34] <Fabian> budluva, uhm... just saw, that somehow those extra urls were not in my sources.list, although I added them some weeks ago..... trying again now
[10:34] <budluva> Fabian, ok
[10:34] <Fabian> budluva, it has installed now, testing totem
[10:35] <Fabian> budluva, still not......
[10:35] <budluva> same error?
[10:35] <Fabian> yep
[10:35] <budluva> no libdvdcss installed?
[10:36] <budluva> Fabian, check your logs for totem
[10:37] <Fabian> budluva, where?
[10:37] <Fabian> budluva, because of the new sources, some 33 packages can be updated now. totem is one of them. trying this now
[10:37] <budluva> Fabian, /var/log where else? :P
[10:37] <moparfan90> hello. does any one know a xbox ive subsitution
[10:37] <budluva> Fabian, yes that might help to :P
[10:38] <chillywilly> oo-boon-too
[10:38] <chillywilly> !!!
[10:38] <ubotu> chillywilly: I don't know
[10:38] <Fabian> budluva, in /var/log is no totem log
[10:39] <chillywilly> ubotu: that was my battle cry or something not a refernce to you ;)
[10:39] <ubotu> chillywilly: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:39] <budluva> Fabian, what about /var/log/totem ?
[10:39] <chillywilly> ubotu: ah, you're a bot
[10:39] <ubotu> chillywilly: Are you smoking crack?
[10:39] <chillywilly> ubotu: are you?
[10:39] <ubotu> Wish i knew, chillywilly
[10:39] <Fabian> budluva, nope
[10:39] <moparfan90>  hello. does any one know a xbox live subsitution??????????
[10:39] <budluva> Fabian, did your update work
[10:39] <budluva> ?
[10:40] <Fabian> still updating. doing the whole lot
[10:40] <Heimdall> is there a resume function on x-chat fo sdcc download ?
[10:40] <Heimdall> xdcc*
[10:42] <Fabian> budluva, coming back in 10 minutes
[10:43] <rob_> Fabian, cya
[10:44] <jtan325_> does ubuntu use .xsession or .xinitrc?
[10:44] <nalioth_wrkn> unome you here?
[10:44] <unome> yes.
[10:44] <unome> thx for the notice.
[10:45] <rob_> Anyone know how to use  webcam with Gaim? I heard there was something like gaim_vv
[10:45] <cmatheson>  jtan325_ : if you're using gdm, it's the same as always, just choose the 'system default' or whatever it is and it will load from xsession
[10:45] <rob_> or gaim_w
[10:46] <seth_k> rob_, yeah, it's gaim_vv
[10:46] <rob_> so sudo apt-get install gaim_vv?
[10:47] <moparfan90> does anyone know a subsitution for xbox live?
[10:47] <rob_> no package :(
[10:47] <seth_k> there's no package for it, rob_
[10:47] <seth_k> yep
[10:47] <rob_> seth_k,  how do i install it then?
[10:48] <cmatheson> seth_k:  find it on the web, and then compile from source
[10:48] <jtan325_> cmatheson, so I put the line "gnome-settings-daemon" in my .xsession file
[10:48] <jtan325_> but nothing actually happens
[10:48] <freddy> i want a bootsplash :(
[10:48] <freddy> and this looks really hard
[10:48] <jtan325_> (after doing ctrl+alt+backspace)
[10:48] <cmatheson> jtan325_:  yeah, i have it in mine, just make sure to put '&' after it
[10:48] <seth_k> rob_, let me see if I can find a debian package for you and i'll backport it
[10:49] <rob_> kk ty
[10:49] <seth_k> rob_, or you can do as cmatheson suggested and compile from source (using checkinstall)
[10:49] <jtan325_> cmatheson, thanks, i restart X and see if this works
[10:50] <tatiana> freddy, closest thing i found was a how to on setting up um pppconfig
[10:50] <tatiana> which i'm tryin with her now
[10:50] <jtan325> cmatheson, still does not work
[10:51] <jtan325> "ctrl + alt+ backspace" should restart X right?
[10:51] <cmatheson> jtan325:  what happens?
[10:51] <LokeDK> great.. firefox just ruined all my bookmarks
[10:51] <memin> Has anyone configured a modem under ubuntu?
[10:51] <cmatheson> is your xsession executable?
[10:51] <jtan325> ahhh
[10:51] <jtan325> i'll try that
[10:51] <freddy> tatiana, i haven found anything
[10:51] <tatiana> figures
[10:52] <freddy> tatiana, sorry :(
[10:52] <benplaut> i hate it when that happens...
[10:53] <benplaut> 2 more...
[10:53] <jtan325_> cmatheson, still does  not seem to run gnome-settings daemon
[10:53] <jtan325_> "gnome-settings-daemon"
[10:53] <jtan325_> with the &
[10:53] <seth_k> rob_, the latest version is 1.2.0, and i can only find a source package. You're probably better off waiting for now.
[10:53] <jtan325_> in my .xsession file in ~, i made it executable
[10:53] <seth_k> http://gaim-vv.sf.net
[10:54] <cmatheson> jtan325_:  hmm, is it running the rest of your stuff?
[10:55] <gr0bi> hi, i'm not able to connect to a radio-stream via xmms! does someone have an idea why???
[10:55] <jtan325_> cmatheson, gnome-settings-daemon was the only thing i have in there
[10:55] <jtan325_> i'll try running firefox or something too then?
[10:56] <jtan325_> i.e. also put "mozilla-firefox &" in my .xsession?
[10:56] <tatiana> sigh
[10:56] <tatiana> ok this sucks heh
[10:56] <gr0bi> you want to start ff on startup?
[10:56] <Tomcat__> Just put it in sessions... :o
[10:57] <jtan325_> huh?
[10:57] <jtan325_> i want to run gnome-settings-daemon on startup
[10:57] <Tomcat__> System=>Preferences=>Sessions
[10:57] <gr0bi> system > preferences > session > startup > add > firefox
[10:57] <gr0bi> or mozilla-firefox
[10:57] <jtan325_> but i am using fluxbox, and the fluxbox docs say i should put startup programs in ".xsessions"
[10:57] <gr0bi> its the same
[10:58] <jtan325_> yeah it works when i use the default gnome WM, i.e. it starts firefox and thunderbird when i log oin
[10:58] <jtan325_> but with fluxbox, it doesn't seem to work
[10:58] <jtan325_> where is the "sessions" file
[10:58] <jtan325_> when you do System->preferecnes->sessions
[11:00] <AndyRR> anyone know how to get better print output in firefox?  im using a colour lj4500 ps printer
[11:00] <chez> a bit of a newb question coming up ...................... how do I change my gnome menus where all my application shortcuts are?
[11:00] <AndyRR> prints from other apps fin
[11:01] <gr0bi> chez, with smeg
[11:01] <chez> gr0bi: great I'll install that now
[11:01] <AndyRR> just in firefox the output is dire using gs to convert to ps level 2
[11:01] <Fabian> budluva, it works now! although it's not very good quality....
[11:01] <gr0bi> chez, just do it... it's a nice proggie :)
[11:01] <jtan325> gr0bi, do you know where the sessions file is?
[11:02] <budluva> Fabian, good to hear
[11:02] <jtan325> when you do it the gui-way through gnome?
[11:02] <chez> AndyRR: is it just because the sites you are trying to print are poorly formatted - intended for screen rather than print
[11:02] <cmatheson> jtan325_:  you'll need something more than that in there, one sec
[11:02] <budluva> Fabian, as for quality i can't help you there as i dont watch my dvds on my computer :P tis what i have my 51" for :P
[11:02] <AndyRR> chez, ubuntu pages
[11:02] <gr0bi> jtan325, no.. just did it via menu
[11:02] <Fabian> budluva, what about that bad quality? there are vertical lines, which apear, and it's not very fluid....
[11:02] <eyequeue> jtan325:  system > preferences > sessions
[11:03] <Fabian> budluva, too bad....
[11:03] <budluva> Fabian, what dvd?
[11:03] <chez> AndyRR: oh right I would have thought they would be okay .. w3c compliant and what-have-you. What's wrong with the print
[11:03] <Fabian> budluva, dirty dancing 2
[11:03] <AndyRR> layout is fine just there are extra tails and lines all over the place
[11:03] <Fabian> budluva, in windows it's working fine, superb quality
[11:03] <unome> AndyR try printing to a file then lpr <file>, see if there's any difference?
[11:04] <budluva> Fabian, have you tried watchin with something else?
[11:04] <Fabian> budluva, f.e.?
[11:04] <cee-jay> after logging-in to my unbuntu user account, I just get a plain brown desktop--no UI.  any clues?
[11:04] <cee-jay> worked this morning...
[11:05] <budluva> Fabian, what about xine?
[11:05] <cee-jay> no failsafe gnome either.
[11:05] <Fabian> isn't totem a frontend for xine?
[11:06] <chez> Where do I get smeg from if not synaptic?
[11:06] <lukus001> Can someone help me get my digital audio working on my Asus a8n-e sli deluxe motherboard
[11:06] <Fabian> budluva, isn't totem a frontend for xine?
[11:06] <thomerz> hi, when i want to choose an application to open a unkown file type, i get the message: cannot add the application to the application-database, anyone an idea?
[11:07] <Fabian> budluva, what package is xine? gnome-xine?
[11:07] <budluva> Fabian, eh sorry, xine-ui
[11:08] <budluva> Fabian, and yes your right, dont bother with xine
[11:08] <chez> Anyone: Where do I get smeg from if not synaptic?
[11:08] <unome> lukus001: alsamixer/ kmix, I would make sure all ouputs are checked
[11:08] <HaroldJohnson> This is so frustrating!
[11:08] <HaroldJohnson> I cannot get Ubuntu installed!
[11:08] <HaroldJohnson> Ahha
[11:08] <budluva> Fabian, try and find another media player that plays dvds and try it out
[11:08] <HaroldJohnson> Aargh!
[11:09] <cee-jay> how far have you got, harold?
[11:09] <HaroldJohnson> Oh, I'm sooooo close.
[11:09] <cee-jay> and what release?  5.04?
[11:09] <eyequeue> chez:  Filename: dists/hoary-backports/universe/binary-i386/smeg_0.7.4-0ubuntu1~5.04ubp1_all.deb
[11:09] <eyequeue>  (meaning add the backports repository)
[11:09] <HaroldJohnson> I'm nearly reading to abandon
[11:09] <HaroldJohnson> Warty
[11:09] <cee-jay> partition?
[11:09] <HaroldJohnson> on an OldWorld Powerbook
[11:09] <HaroldJohnson> Don't know
[11:09] <HaroldJohnson> I think ext3?
[11:09] <HaroldJohnson> Does that make sense?
[11:09] <lukus001> unome*: do i type that in terminal**?
[11:09] <thomerz> hi, when i want to choose an application to open a unkown file type, i get the message: cannot add the application to the application-database, anyone an idea?
[11:10] <chez> eyequeue: according to the starter guide though it should be available via apt-get but its not
[11:10] <cee-jay> yeah, i mean, are you dual booting?
[11:10] <unome> lukus001: yes after you print to a file say mozilla.ps
[11:10] <HaroldJohnson> Yes, using BootX
[11:10] <eyequeue> chez (meaning add the backports repository)
[11:10] <HaroldJohnson> Thanks, cee-jay
[11:10] <HaroldJohnson> Thanks for helping
[11:10] <cee-jay> i'll try.  i've only just installed breezy.
[11:10] <cee-jay> it's my first working linux install
[11:10] <chez> eyequeue: sorry can you explain how I can get at that (I'm a newb of a recently converted windoze user)
[11:10] <lukus001> unome: what do you mean exactly by print to a file?
[11:10] <HaroldJohnson> On a Mac/
[11:11] <HaroldJohnson> ?
[11:11] <HaroldJohnson> Congrats, BTW
[11:11] <eyequeue> chez:  let me grab you a couple of URLS
[11:11] <cee-jay> ok.  how far are you into the install?  thx
[11:11] <unome> lukus001: when you click print in firefox it will ask if you wanna print to the printer or to a file.
[11:11] <chez> eyequeue: cheers
[11:11] <HaroldJohnson> Well, I'm in the first stage of the intall.  I'm following the instructions on the wiki (for OldWorld Macs), but this one part gets so difficult to manage.
[11:12] <HaroldJohnson> It's this:
[11:12] <lukus001> unome: er how would that help audio :s
[11:12] <HaroldJohnson> Moving the installed kernel and ram disk image to the Mac HFS+ partition
[11:12] <Fabian> budluva, using xine now. nothing better.
[11:12] <unome> lukus001: sorry I mixed you with someone else, try alsamixer .. and make sure all outputs are checked
[11:12] <HaroldJohnson> That's the part that's killin' me
[11:12] <memin> Has anyone configured a modem under ubuntu?
[11:12] <unome> lukus001: it you are using KDE then kmix can do the trick
[11:13] <lukus001> unome: im on kmix at aving a little fiddle.. lol
[11:13] <cmatheson> jtan325:  did you figure that out?
[11:13] <lukus001> at the mo*
[11:13] <eyequeue> chez:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and then http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/index.php?referrerid=7995
[11:13] <cee-jay> you've already successfully created a separate ext3 partition?
[11:13] <cmatheson> what happens when you start~does it just go back to the gdm login screen?
[11:13] <unome> lukus001: in the output TAB, check all green lights
[11:13] <HaroldJohnson> Yes, I have, and the swap
[11:13] <HaroldJohnson> I'm at the end of the first stage of the installation
[11:14] <lukus001> unome:yeah ive put them al on but no difference
[11:14] <eyequeue> chez:  if you still need help after that, feel free to msg me
[11:14] <jtorq> anybody have an idea why when I get a DHCP lease, I also gain _two_ routes?
[11:14] <chez> eyequeue: thanks alot bud
[11:14] <gbic> Is it possible for dd to backup the whole existing system and put it to an ISO? I want to make an image and put it to my external hd
[11:14] <eyequeue> chez:  np
[11:14] <cee-jay> you're booting from the cd or installing from an iso image?
[11:14] <HaroldJohnson> And I know I have to move the installed kernel and ram disk image over to the first (boot) partition, but I don't know how
[11:14] <unome> lukus001: in terminal type: ps aux | grep alsa
[11:14] <HaroldJohnson> Booting from the CD, usind BootX
[11:14] <unome> I mean esd sheesh
[11:15] <unome> lukus001: in terminal type: ps aux | grep esd
[11:15] <lukus001> okay done
[11:15] <unome> you see it?
[11:15] <freddy> i dont get it
[11:15] <cee-jay> ok, the easiest setup to me was to choose to reformat the ext3 part, bootable flag=yes make the mount point=/
[11:15] <lukus001> i got a bunch of number i dont know what they mean
[11:16] <freddy> if i have a pentium IV why do i have a 386 kernel?
[11:16] <freddy> is it slowing down my computer?
[11:16] <unome> lukus001: ok so kill it's pid and try your sound
[11:16] <freddy> i dont get it
[11:16] <cmatheson> freddy:  it doesn't matter
[11:16] <cmatheson> freddy:  if you're way concerned about it compile the 686 version
[11:16] <lukus001> unome: kill it?
[11:16] <unome> lukus001: are you on KDE?
[11:16] <freddy> no im not concerned...i just want to know if im taking full advantage of my computer cmatheson ?
[11:17] <lukus001> unome: not a clue - fresh install of horay 86 build
[11:17] <moparfan90_> does any here know a xbox live subsitution. like a hack or mod to play xbox live games online without xboxlive?
[11:17] <sproingie> freddy: the kernel doesn't really use any cpu-specific optimizations.  the compiler might just a bit, but you're talking tiny amounts
[11:17] <cmatheson> freddy:  from all the stats i've seen it really doesn't matter at all
[11:17] <sproingie> freddy: the system shouldnt be spending much time in the kernel anyway
[11:18] <gbic> what is the best backup manager for ubuntu?
[11:18] <flarfu> moparfan90_, xbconnect
[11:18] <freddy> oh so you guys have the 386 running?
[11:18] <pedingto> Hrm, I know this may sound a bit retarded, but is there something I have to set up to get sendmail working with php?
[11:18] <gbic> pedingto check your php.ini
[11:18] <freddy> cmatheson, sproingie ?
[11:18] <gbic> for the sendmail
[11:18] <moparfan90_> flarfu: do you use that?   and thanks.
[11:19] <gbic> ; For Unix only.  You may supply arguments as well (default: "sendmail -t -i").
[11:19] <gbic> ;sendmail_path =
[11:19] <unome> lukus001: when you openned kmix all output was on, or did you turn 3D on yourself?
[11:19] <lukus001> unome: a couple were off - i turnt them on
[11:19] <pedingto> Thanks, gbic.
[11:19] <gbic> np
[11:19] <unome> lukus001: ok, how's your sound now?
[11:20] <kolas> I have just converted a ntfs partition into ext3, what to change in /etc/fstab now to mount it ?
[11:20] <lukus001> unome: no sound...
[11:20] <flarfu> moparfan90_, i haven't used it.  but what it does is it tricks your xbox into thinking that your computer is another xbox.  your computer goes out and connects to other people running xbconnect
[11:20] <unome> lukus001: using some soundblaster card?
[11:20] <TimmyJ> when I run setup.sh in lirc I get a "dialog not found!" error, any ideas?
[11:20] <lukus001> built-in sound on asus a8n-e sli deluxe
[11:21] <moparfan90_> oo
[11:21] <moparfan90_> ok
[11:21] <flarfu> moparfan90_, so it's more like playing a lan game but with a really big lan
[11:21] <eyequeue> kolas:  like   /dev/hda11      /home           ext3    defaults        0       2
[11:22] <unome> lukus001: type: lspci .. do you see 'sound controler'?
[11:22] <unome> or sudi controler rather
[11:22] <unome> audio*
[11:22] <moparfan90_> oo
[11:22] <moparfan90_> i have a router will it work ?
[11:22] <grand_black_char> hi every body
[11:23] <grand_black_char> i've got a problem with sound configuration on my ubuntu
[11:23] <lukus001> unome: Multimedia audio controller is the nearest one to anythign sound related
[11:23] <flarfu> moparfan90_, i'm sure their site has all the info
[11:23] <moparfan90_> ok
[11:24] <HaroldJohnson> Well, thanks for your help, cee-jay.  Nalioth is going to help me further...
[11:24] <unome> lukus001: see if your chipset is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[11:24] <HaroldJohnson> ...thanks again!
[11:24] <cee-jay> ok, good luck
[11:24] <kolas> eyequeue: thanks!
[11:25] <lukus001> ok ill give it a look
[11:25] <D1> quick question, does ubuntu have a ncurses gui to load/unload modules like debian does? I cant remember the command for it.
[11:26] <freddy> i still dont get it
[11:26] <freddy> why this system uses a 386 kernel
[11:26] <freddy> if it isnt
[11:27] <eyequeue> kolas:  np
[11:27] <moparfan90_> can  xbconnect   play with xbox live people?
[11:27] <jtorq> freddy, 386 instructions are compatible with everything
[11:28] <jtorq> freddy, well, in that x86 realm
[11:31] <freddy> yes jtorq but is it diferent if i get a 686 kernel?
[11:31] <transgre1s> anyone have a suggestion on how to find my gateway address?
[11:31] <mrd`> ifconfig
[11:31] <mindspin> route
[11:31] <mrd`> Oh, wait, not ifconfig.
[11:32] <eyequeue> cat /etc/network/interfaces
[11:32] <mindspin> route
[11:32] <mrd`> route is it
[11:32] <mindspin> if you wann add a new one as default gatewy add
[11:33] <mindspin> su route add default gw ip
[11:33] <mindspin> ip means ip address of the new default gw
[11:33] <DeCaoS> why i have this error:  W: GPG error: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[11:34] <jtorq> freddy, they're just minor optimisations
[11:34] <jtorq> freddy, you'd find around a 4% query speed increase by using 686 instead
[11:34] <grey_gandalf> in the live cd, what is the root password ?
[11:34] <grey_gandalf> I wanted to use the livecd to check/format my HD
[11:34] <mindspin> freddy if you wanna play with compiler and kernels, why not using gentoo ?
[11:34] <jtorq> grey_gandalf, use sudo
[11:35] <grey_gandalf> what is avaiable? cfdisk?
[11:36] <jtorq> grey_gandalf, yep, cfdisk is there
[11:36] <eyequeue> fsck cfdisk and mkfs should be
[11:36] <grey_gandalf> the powerbook has a broken backlight illumination oso it needs something simple or I can't read it :)
[11:36] <grey_gandalf> ok, perfect
[11:36] <jtorq> freddy, just `apt-get install linux-image-2.6.10-5-686` if it's a problem
[11:37] <DeCaoS> W: GPG error: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: Unknown error executing gpgv ?? why i have this problem :$
[11:37] <freddy> mindspin, hmm why you tell users to use gentoo? it is a normal question..why do i have a kernel that doesnt match my arquitechture
[11:38] <mindspin> it was just a hint
[11:38] <eyequeue> freddy:  actually it does match your archetecture, in "lowest common denominator" sense of matching
[11:39] <jtorq> freddy, it's a broad kernel image that will work on all systems
[11:39] <jtorq> freddy, otherwise, you'd have to do something like download Ubuntu-686 or Ubuntu-k7 instead of just the broad one
[11:40] <freddy> oh now i understand
[11:40] <freddy> thanks jtorq
[11:40] <jtorq> no problem, freddy
[11:41] <freddy> to work from 386 and latest systems
[11:41] <HWolf> Does anyone here know anything about serial ports and how to configure them?
[11:43] <transgress> okay i set up my connection to be static with the network settings tool in gnome, but is it gonna revert to dhcp when i reboot?
[11:44] <hooligan> hi
[11:44] <transgress> hi
[11:44] <mwe> hey
[11:45] <we2by> I'm trying to burn a dvd iamge to a dvd using gnomebaker, but this damn thing is telling me /media/cdorm1 is not mounted
[11:45] <we2by> image*
[11:46] <unome> try mount /media/cdrom1
[11:46] <hooligan> To order ubuntus CD i have to talk with who?
[11:46] <we2by> uniq, wrong media type
[11:46] <nalioth> we2by: if u r burning an image TO the cd, mounting shouldnt be necessary
[11:46] <mwe> you cant mount a blank cd afaik
[11:46] <freddy> with the website
[11:46] <transgress> you go to the site
[11:47] <transgress> http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org/
[11:47] <mwe> then wait a few months
[11:47] <we2by> nalioth, then why the heck gnomebaker tells me so?
[11:47] <we2by> :(
[11:47] <nalioth> we2by: if you are burning a dvd iso image all you should need is a blank disk
[11:47] <nalioth> we2by: i prefer k3b
[11:48] <mwe> me too
[11:48] <we2by> but I use gnome
[11:48] <chrissturm> we2by: you can use k3b in gnome
[11:48] <mwe> I wonder why it tells him /media/cdrom1 isn't mounted. I thought it wasn't supposed to be mounted
[11:49] <hooligan> but it want to order like 300cds for a linux install fest that im organizing here at my university in brazil
[11:49] <hooligan> is that possible?
[11:49] <we2by> I ordered a ubuntu cd a few months ago, still waiting for it to arive
[11:50] <Burgundavia> hooligan, you need to talk to mako
[11:50] <Burgundavia> hooligan, if you speak to him directly, you have a better chance of getting them
[11:50] <eyequeue> hooligan:  the shipit site should have info, i think .br was one of the countries entioned (some charge if the volume is high, customs or something)
[11:50] <hooligan> how can i speak to him?
[11:51] <eyequeue> hooligan:  note that it's the country that is charging, not ubuntu :)
[11:51] <Burgundavia> hooligan, ping him, nick is mako
[11:51] <topyli> hooligan: 300 cds. i'd like to attend your installfests!
[11:51] <hooligan> topyli
[11:52] <hooligan> can u send me those 300 cds?
[11:52] <topyli> me? no. mako is the man
[11:52] <hooligan> ah ok
[11:52] <lsuactiafner> i want cds for new release
[11:52] <lsuactiafner> dont want to downlaod it
[11:52] <lsuactiafner> but.. cds take about 2 months
[11:52] <hooligan> the linux installfest is in september
[11:53] <lsuactiafner> by that time ive downloaded it on a dialup @ 3k/s
[11:53] <hooligan> mako
[11:53] <we2by> I think it takes more than 2 months
[11:53] <we2by> I have waited more than 3 months maybe, still no cd
[11:53] <mirak> hello
[11:54] <mirak> I burned a DVDrom with the VIDEO_TS folder and stuffs, but xine or vlc can't read it
[11:54] <topyli> hooligan: if you state you business, they can probably hurry your cds to you
[11:54] <mirak> libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access
[11:54] <mirak> libdvdread: Attempting to use device /dev/hda6 mounted on / for CSS authentication
[11:54] <lsuactiafner> i got my cds from netherlands. parents were like WHAT DID YOU GET FROM netherlands
[11:54] <mirak> probleme is that my dvdrom is of course not /dev/hda6
[11:54] <eyequeue> lsuactiafner:  geekpron :)
[11:54] <mirak> and that it wasn't crypted with css since it's a VHS rip
[11:55] <lsuactiafner> yeh lol
[11:55] <mwe> heh
[11:55] <hooligan> topyli: yep i would do that, its for the university, my ideia is to convert all people to use linux
[11:55] <brittle> mirak: just change the path in vlc
[11:55] <topyli> hooligan: sounds like a plan :)
[11:55] <mirak> brittle: how ?
[11:55] <mirak> I use xine dvd:// to run it.
[11:55] <mirak> it works with aliens dvd
[11:55] <hooligan> and i found ubuntu very similar to what people are used to use
[11:56] <mirak> I used nautilus to burn it, maybe it's not good ?
[11:57] <BluesRocker> can someone help mi to install modem driver, please?
[11:57] <topyli> hooligan: so there :)
[11:58] <airmikey> anyone running pekwm window manager ?
[11:58] <eyequeue> hooligan:  one point too for you, when you talk to mako, let him know what the dates of the installfest are, then you won't need to wait for the routine shipping
[11:59] <cheezee> anybody know what the kernel will be in Breezy Release?? (my english bad.. sorry)
[11:59] <hooligan> eyequeue: ok, thanks all for helping
[11:59] <Burgundavia> cheezee, probably .12