| Mez | iso files dont have a mime tpye do they | 12:07 |
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| Riddell | they must do | 12:07 |
| Riddell | they have an icon | 12:07 |
| Mez | http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=iso | 12:07 |
| Riddell | application/x-iso says Konqueror's file associations | 12:08 |
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| Mez | [Desktop Entry] | 12:09 |
| Mez | Type=MimeType | 12:09 |
| Mez | Patterns=*.iso;*.ISO | 12:09 |
| Mez | MimeType=application/x-iso | 12:09 |
| Mez | I cant find how to make them open with a certain app though | 12:10 |
| Riddell | add MimeType= to k3b.desktop | 12:12 |
| pef | bye ! | 12:17 |
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| Mez | Riddell: still here? | 01:09 |
| Mez | Riddell, ping | 01:10 |
| Riddell | Mez: hi | 01:12 |
| Mez | want that latest version of k3b? | 01:13 |
| Riddell | go on then | 01:13 |
| Mez | lemme upload | 01:13 |
| Mez | gimme 5 mins | 01:13 |
| Riddell | Mez: want a mention in the lugradio dot.kde.org news article? | 01:13 |
| Mez | if you want to mention me :D | 01:14 |
| Riddell | I need an angle | 01:14 |
| Mez | what would i be mentioned for though | 01:14 |
| Mez | ...? | 01:14 |
| Mez | how do you mean an "angle?" | 01:15 |
| Riddell | well I can't just say "Mez was there" | 01:15 |
| Riddell | needs to be a reason for mentioning you | 01:15 |
| Riddell | "Mez was persuaded to adopt the k3b packages for Kubuntu" | 01:16 |
| Mez | lol - well you could mention I was one of the only people to leave the lighting talks room to come see you on the main stage (in fact the only person) | 01:16 |
| Riddell | that's shocking, who was speaking in the other room? | 01:16 |
| Mez | or that due to lugradio, I became a member of ubuntu and am heading to becoming a maintainer :P | 01:16 |
| Mez | whoever was meant to be on before you | 01:17 |
| Mez | one sec lemme find out | 01:17 |
| Mez | to be fair dude, you bombed on stage | 01:18 |
| Mez | Drew Mclellan was in lihting talks room | 01:18 |
| Riddell | who's he? | 01:19 |
| Riddell | can't be as cool as me, I've never heard of him | 01:19 |
| Mez | guy who developed XMLHTTPRequest (aka Ajax) | 01:19 |
| Mez | or at least is a leading expert in it | 01:20 |
| Mez | http://www.allinthehead.com/about/ | 01:20 |
| Riddell | oh. guess he's got a certain coolness then | 01:20 |
| Mez | lol :d | 01:20 |
| Mez | god the up speed is slow here... can twait to get back to my 4MBps line :d | 01:21 |
| Mez | http://www.sourceguru.net/ubuntu/dev/ = 0.12.2-0ubuntu1 | 01:22 |
| Mez | http://www.sourceguru.net/ubuntu/dev/ = k3b0.12.2-0ubuntu1 * | 01:22 |
| Mez | shoot... can you add to the changelog about the iso thing | 01:23 |
| Riddell | sure | 01:23 |
| Mez | I forgot to :D | 01:23 |
| Riddell | Mez: it doesn't contain any patch for iso | 01:28 |
| Mez | shoot... i edited file directly :D | 01:28 |
| Mez | one sec | 01:28 |
| Mez | http://www.sourceguru.net/ubuntu/k3b.dev/ = k3b-0.12.2-0ubuntu1 (when it's done uplaoding) | 01:33 |
| Mez | (aka dont download any .part files ;) | 01:33 |
| Mez | lol - it's just uploading orig.trar.gz now | 01:34 |
| Mez | which you have already | 01:34 |
| Mez | Riddell: uploaded - go for it | 01:42 |
| Mez | Riddell, if you're getting rid of KControl... then what about all the stuff that depends on it? | 01:42 |
| Riddell | Mez: kcontrol will still be there, kde-systemsettings depends on it | 01:43 |
| Riddell | just won't be in the menu | 01:43 |
| Mez | fair enough :d | 01:43 |
| Mez | any chance of a copy of your shineh thing ? | 01:43 |
| Mez | a test for hoary (and to put into backports-extras if you want?) | 01:44 |
| Riddell | of my what? | 01:44 |
| Mez | your kcontrol replacement | 01:47 |
| Riddell | kde-systemsettings in breezy | 01:47 |
| Riddell | might need a breezy version of unsermake not sure | 01:48 |
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| Riddell | Mez: that's k3b uploaded thanks. keep an eye on its buildlogs and test it once it's built | 01:49 |
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| Mez | will do :D | 01:49 |
| Mez | who you beddign? | 01:49 |
| Mez | Riddell... really weird, but there's no files there for it | 01:52 |
| Mez | ah it got promoted to main | 01:53 |
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| froud | mart: ping | 02:36 |
| froud | Ok I have now tried but upgrade and dist-upgrade and I am unable to get my machine to run x | 02:38 |
| froud | sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg says /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-org is not installed | 02:40 |
| froud | and that after an apt-get upgrade | 02:40 |
| froud | kdm is there | 02:40 |
| froud | which is better than what I am left with after a dist-upgrade | 02:40 |
| froud | So the question is how the hell to get a working Kubuntu on breezy? | 02:41 |
| Riddell | froud: start kdm? | 02:42 |
| froud | restarting | 02:44 |
| froud | I had a typo in sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg | 02:44 |
| froud | and sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart stopped and started kdm | 02:44 |
| froud | now reboot | 02:45 |
| froud | no get back to console | 02:46 |
| froud | Riddell: this is dumb. What they hell is it. I did an upgrade on Ubuntu and it works. I do the same things on Kubutuntu and it does not! | 02:48 |
| froud | Riddell: to upgrade to breezy development branch must the system be at 3.4.1 | 02:50 |
| froud | Ok somebody please explain the process for upgrading from hoary to breezy | 02:54 |
| Riddell | froud: when did you do the ubuntu upgrade? | 02:55 |
| froud | about a week ago | 02:57 |
| froud | I think | 02:58 |
| froud | since then I have been trying to do the same for kubuntu | 02:58 |
| froud | 1. I install new Kubuntu from the haory cd | 02:58 |
| froud | 2. I change hoary repos's in sources.list to breezy | 02:59 |
| froud | 3. I sudo apt-get update in Konsole | 02:59 |
| froud | 4. I sudo apt-get upgrade | 02:59 |
| froud | at first I was doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 02:59 |
| froud | but that was not working, mart suggests do only upgrade | 03:00 |
| froud | seems that method also does not work | 03:00 |
| froud | perhaps somebody could do this procedure and if they dont get the same result then it must be dumb me | 03:00 |
| Riddell | what's the error that you get? | 03:01 |
| froud | Well in both cases its a bunch of errors | 03:01 |
| Riddell | go on | 03:01 |
| froud | can t give you the exact now cause the host is now trying another upgrade | 03:02 |
| mdz | Riddell: have you tested Kubuntu CD builds recently? | 03:02 |
| froud | Riddell: in all cases when I restart the machine I am brough to console prompt | 03:03 |
| froud | cannot startx | 03:03 |
| froud | oh sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm says dpkg-reconfigure not installed | 03:05 |
| Riddell | mdz: there are no recent kubuntu CD builds, kamion hasn't been making them | 03:06 |
| mdz | Riddell: he just told me that they have been enabled | 03:06 |
| froud | Riddell: I just did it from the iso on the download | 03:06 |
| froud | but that was downloaded about a week back, its the same ISO from hoary release | 03:06 |
| mdz | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20050705/ looks quite recent | 03:07 |
| Riddell | mdz: excellent, time for a wget then | 03:08 |
| froud | Riddell: do you have a spare box, try it I downloaded on 29/06 | 03:08 |
| Riddell | froud: I'll try the daily build from last night | 03:08 |
| froud | Riddell: OK will do, but it will take some time to download | 03:09 |
| Riddell | froud: rsync | 03:09 |
| Riddell | rsync is nice for CDs | 03:09 |
| mdz | Riddell: there are also recent live CDs, but it seems that the filesystem in them might be old and broken | 03:10 |
| tvo | Riddell: I'm now playing with regexp searches, though it appears to be quite impossible to pass certain construct through konqueror into the ioslave | 03:49 |
| Riddell | tvo: is regexp that useful compared to just shell wildcards? | 03:51 |
| tvo | Riddell: for example, "foo[^/] bar" gives an error because konqueror thinks it has to look for a directory foo[^/ or something... | 03:51 |
| tvo | Riddell: I think not, unless it's quite easy to implement :) | 03:51 |
| tvo | Riddell: so I drop regexps and just add wildcards "*" and "?" ? | 03:52 |
| tvo | Riddell: btw, I got 3 working, I'm going to make 3 screenies and attach them to the wiki or something... | 03:53 |
| Riddell | depends what people would use, I suspect I'd never use regexps | 03:54 |
| tvo | Riddell: also, someone who knows regexp probably isn't afraid of commandline, so he/she can just do locate -are by himself/herself | 03:56 |
| tvo | s/-are/-r/ | 03:57 |
| Riddell | yep | 03:57 |
| Riddell | tvo: http://ktown.kde.org/~binner/contextsearch.png | 03:58 |
| Riddell | that should be extended to be able to search for files | 03:58 |
| Riddell | and default to files when in filemanager mode | 03:58 |
| tvo | Riddell: they are the same plugins as the searchbox top right in konqueror ? | 04:03 |
| Riddell | tvo: what are? | 04:03 |
| tvo | the search plugins I see in your screenshot | 04:04 |
| tvo | Riddell: on my place, locate is already the default, though I don't know for which profiles | 04:04 |
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| tvo | Riddell: http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/1.png | 04:11 |
| tvo | also 2.png and 3.png | 04:11 |
| mart | froud: still here | 04:13 |
| froud | yep | 04:13 |
| froud | :-) barely | 04:13 |
| mart | re dist-upgrade vs upgrade | 04:14 |
| froud | yep | 04:14 |
| mart | I only meant to suggest you consider which one to use before you upgrade | 04:14 |
| mart | I didn't mean that upgrade was the most appropriate in that case | 04:15 |
| mart | only that it definately wouldn't have removed stuff | 04:15 |
| froud | mart: does it matter, they should both work and dist-upgrade should not have left the host in that state | 04:15 |
| froud | sure | 04:15 |
| froud | I understand | 04:15 |
| mart | but they do different things | 04:15 |
| mart | upgrade shouldn't have necessarily done what you wanted | 04:16 |
| froud | yes, dist-upgrade is the correct route, right? | 04:16 |
| mart | but yes, I agree dist-upgrade shouldn't have barfed | 04:16 |
| froud | So I wonder how ppl with hoary cd's will be able to dist-upgrade | 04:16 |
| froud | perhaps this problem will be fixed by release | 04:16 |
| mart | froud: dist-upgrade (allegedly) does its best to get the latest versions of most of your software | 04:17 |
| mart | even if that means deleting stuff | 04:17 |
| mart | otoh, upgrade is supposed to be safe | 04:17 |
| mart | but you don't neccessarily get the latest version of everything | 04:17 |
| mart | froud: what happens when you aptitude install kubuntu-desktop now? | 04:18 |
| froud | sure, understood, which is why I did not use it in the first place, thinking that dist-upgrade was the way to go. I am downloading a new breezy iso | 04:18 |
| froud | mart: it cant do it | 04:18 |
| mart | btw, aptitude dist-upgrades are supposed to be more reliable that apt-get dist-upgrades | 04:18 |
| froud | dependancies on amorok and some stuff | 04:19 |
| froud | Hmm I thought aptitude was just another frontend to apt | 04:19 |
| mart | ok, so maybe you'll have to manually work around it if those packages, force them if necessary | 04:19 |
| mdz | aptitude dist-upgrade is different; it is sometimes better and sometimes not | 04:20 |
| froud | dunno, to me the whole upgrade thing is borked. gimme yast anyday :-) | 04:20 |
| mdz | ha, ha, ha | 04:20 |
| mart | froud: if you'd read what it said it was going to delete! :P | 04:21 |
| froud | Hmm well kinda hard to scoll back on the console | 04:21 |
| mart | shift up | 04:21 |
| mart | shift page-up, even | 04:21 |
| mart | just dont swap vt | 04:22 |
| froud | and besides, the point is that it should not be leaving me in the console. If it is then the system is borked | 04:22 |
| froud | basically, I dont think anyone tested it | 04:22 |
| froud | they just assumed it would work | 04:22 |
| mart | ok, so are you going to say *which* dependencies are broken, so someone can look at it? | 04:22 |
| froud | not good because dummie slike me who just write docs get caught | 04:22 |
| mart | "something about amarok" isn't particularly specific. | 04:23 |
| froud | mart: you want me to copy the stuf fon the screen. I will be typing all day | 04:23 |
| froud | people should just do the steps I did and test it | 04:23 |
| froud | much faster imho | 04:24 |
| froud | take a hoary cd and do it yourself | 04:24 |
| froud | see whathappens | 04:24 |
| froud | the amount of stuff on the screen is too much for me to try and explain on an irc or even an email | 04:24 |
| froud | anyway, hopefully the breezyiso will work | 04:25 |
| mart | what does apt-get install amarok say | 04:25 |
| mart | ? | 04:25 |
| mart | or rather does it work? | 04:25 |
| froud | hard to say now since I am trying another upgrade | 04:29 |
| mart | ok | 04:29 |
| froud | mart: why dont you just download an iso from 29/06 and see? | 04:29 |
| mart | am grabbing it now | 04:29 |
| mart | hope qemu is packaged | 04:29 |
| mart | bah, it's old | 04:30 |
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| froud | what the iso | 04:30 |
| froud | or qemu :-) | 04:30 |
| froud | hey Soneras | 04:30 |
| mart | qemu | 04:31 |
| Soneras | hi there :) | 04:31 |
| froud | mart: just so you understand, I just write docs, I don't spend much time programming or phathoming why things don't work :-) just no time or patience for that, unless it directly impacts on the document I am writing and I must explain it. | 04:32 |
| froud | But its hard to write docs for a gui you can't see :-) | 04:33 |
| mart | yeah, I've saw the docs | 04:33 |
| froud | mart: better to focus on one thing than do all things | 04:37 |
| mart | froud: wonder if you're talking about my thesis? :) | 04:37 |
| froud | heh heh, what are you writing about? | 04:39 |
| mart | I'm supposed to be writing my progress report... | 04:39 |
| mart | but I don't seem to be making much progress | 04:40 |
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| mart | anyone remember the name of the package that generates 'dummy' packages to satisfy dependencies? | 05:26 |
| mart | (equivs) | 05:30 |
| froud | mart: so you have the same problem, it's not just me | 05:52 |
| froud | please say so, so I feel better :-) | 05:52 |
| mart | froud: no, I haven't got that far yet | 05:53 |
| froud | ok | 05:53 |
| mart | dependency problem was qemu :) | 05:53 |
| Mez | incase anyones interested- I put kde-systemsettings in the backports hoary-extras :D | 06:04 |
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| froud | Mez: has anything changed? Please see http://lnix.net/~froud/kquickguide/C/ch03s07.html | 06:35 |
| Mez | ....? | 06:38 |
| froud | Mez: if you know of things changed from what is shown there ^ | 06:53 |
| Mez | I avent looked at it myself | 06:54 |
| Mez | why not download it and try it? | 06:54 |
| froud | I have installed it | 06:54 |
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| froud | but not from backports | 06:54 |
| Mez | well i just grabbed the copy from breezy and compiled for hoary | 06:55 |
| froud | yes Riddell guided me through the process when I installed in for myself :-) | 06:56 |
| froud | Ok downloaded last nights breezy iso and gues what is does not want to load kernel modules and for my network it says I have a firewire interface that I dont have. | 07:11 |
| mart | froud: it must be you. kubuntu hates you. :) | 07:13 |
| froud | dude 5.04 install beautifully on the same machine | 07:13 |
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| froud | argh!!!! | 07:14 |
| froud | No kernel modules and cant load any on the cd | 07:14 |
| froud | dudes this iso is wacked | 07:14 |
| froud | speaks about installing a different version of ubuntu | 07:15 |
| mart | hmm, hang on.... | 07:15 |
| mart | I wrote a CD that just didn't work, it only worked when I got someone else to burn it... | 07:15 |
| froud | what?!!! | 07:16 |
| mart | dodgy cd coincidence? or dodgy iso somewhere? | 07:16 |
| froud | nah this is not good, do people check these iso files or do they just like wating peoples bandwidth | 07:16 |
| mart | it couldn't be... could it? | 07:16 |
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| hunger | Riddell: scribus is in kubuntu, isen't it? | 08:57 |
| hunger | Riddell: Maybe you could help malex (debian maintainer for it) over in ubuntu-devel. | 08:58 |
| Riddell | hunger: not on the CD (no room) but I think in supported | 08:58 |
| hunger | Riddell: It is in main... | 08:58 |
| Riddell | cool, (I just installed MEPIS) | 08:59 |
| hunger | Riddell: Could you talk to malex over in ubuntu-devel? He is the debian maintainer, trying to contact his ubuntu-peer. | 08:59 |
| hunger | Riddell: I'd be surprised if that wasn't you;-) | 08:59 |
| Riddell | hunger: that's me all right, thanks for the poke | 09:00 |
| Riddell | this MEPIS thing is evil, no source packages | 09:00 |
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| Soneras | Riddell: looking into the mepis center? I'm not sure if you'll finde sources without contacting the devs | 09:06 |
| Soneras | though the installer it has could be nice for a live-to-hdd install. used mepis for a while | 09:07 |
| mart | how did froud-away say he tried to install kubuntu? just by going from ubuntu cd installation, then apt-cdrom add or something? | 09:09 |
| Riddell | mart: he installed from the daily install kubuntu CD | 09:11 |
| Riddell | which I'll do later on too | 09:11 |
| Riddell | Soneras: but there's no deb-src line at all for the mepis packages | 09:11 |
| Soneras | doubt it even exists. didn't when I used it only deb-src where the standard debian (testing/unstable) ones. Maybe you'd have some luck contacting the author - warren. | 09:13 |
| mart | Riddell: I thought he said he'd tried to migrate from ubuntu before that? | 09:13 |
| Riddell | yes he did a dist upgrade from hoary previously | 09:13 |
| mart | to breezy? or to 5.04? | 09:14 |
| Riddell | mart: breezy | 09:16 |
| mart | ah, ok | 09:16 |
| Mez | hey riddell, you here? | 09:22 |
| Riddell | Mez: yes | 09:24 |
| Mez | k3b build was fine... and mind looking over a universe package/uploading for me (tis only wee) | 09:25 |
| Riddell | Mez: what is it? | 09:25 |
| Mez | gaim-assistant | 09:25 |
| Mez | just a lib for gaim | 09:25 |
| Riddell | sounds non-kde | 09:25 |
| Mez | yeah, it is non KDE.... but it's a v v simple package (just install a .so fie) | 09:26 |
| Riddell | Mez: new or existing | 09:27 |
| Mez | new | 09:27 |
| Riddell | Mez: needs reviewing | 09:27 |
| Mez | yeah, by MOTU people ... | 09:27 |
| Mez | and I've no idea how to get it reviewed | 09:28 |
| Riddell | Mez: get an account on REVU and upload there | 09:28 |
| Mez | REVU ? | 09:28 |
| \sh | http://siretart.tauware.de/revu | 09:28 |
| uniq | hi guys. | 09:29 |
| Mez | how do i get an account on there? | 09:30 |
| uniq | it's explained at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU | 09:31 |
| \sh | revu is just broken, ping siretart | 09:31 |
| Mez | ok :D | 09:31 |
| \sh | or sistropy | 09:32 |
| Mez | but only siretart can add me to the keyring? | 09:34 |
| \sh | or sistropy | 09:34 |
| Mez | hmm... :D | 09:35 |
| Mez | IRCbot ... I can help with that :D | 09:35 |
| Mez | well... I think - not tried writing one in python yet, just PHP | 09:35 |
| \sh | mez: ircbots are eval in a special way | 09:36 |
| Mez | ...? | 09:36 |
| \sh | evil ;) | 09:37 |
| Mez | you mean evil ? | 09:37 |
| \sh | not eval | 09:37 |
| Mez | yeah they are :D | 09:37 |
| Mez | lol | 09:37 |
| Mez | but I've made a couple of nice ones in PHP | 09:37 |
| \sh | i just ping siretart on irc and icq | 09:37 |
| \sh | php for cli is much more evil then shell ,-) | 09:37 |
| \sh | I have to say it, but I'm just a php dev | 09:38 |
| Mez | lol - not really... I just made it into a loop and then sit on a channel... | 09:39 |
| Mez | to be fair, you could quite easily just put an eggdrop on somewhere, and get it to read from a file for announces etc | 09:40 |
| \sh | eggdrop is the dangrouse thing ever | 09:40 |
| Mez | lol yeah | 09:42 |
| Mez | it was a suggestion | 09:42 |
| Mez | does ircssi allow scripts? | 09:42 |
| allee | \sh: ping? | 09:43 |
| \sh | pong | 09:43 |
| allee | \sh: hi | 09:44 |
| \sh | allee: you r the one with all the patches from debian, right? | 09:44 |
| allee | \sh: why did you add c2 to libkexif? 11567 | 09:44 |
| allee | #11567 | 09:44 |
| allee | \sh: all the patches? pardon? | 09:44 |
| \sh | allee: forget just confused | 09:45 |
| \sh | let me check | 09:45 |
| allee | \sh I feel honoured nevertheless. Please stay confused ;) | 09:45 |
| \sh | yeah :) | 09:45 |
| \sh | boah...something is wrong with the bloody computer today | 09:47 |
| \sh | i think because it was on the list | 09:48 |
| \sh | cxx trans | 09:48 |
| \sh | una momementa | 09:49 |
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| \sh | back | 09:50 |
| \sh | Riddell: can it be, that kdelibs4 now is completly crazy? | 09:51 |
| allee | \sh c++ trans is one thing but libkexif did depend on kdelibs4. | 09:55 |
| \sh | yes :) | 09:56 |
| \sh | is pipi-plugins an external package? | 09:57 |
| \sh | kipi sorry ;) | 09:57 |
| allee | kipi-plugins Enhances: digikam, gwenview, kimdaba and showimg ;) | 09:58 |
| allee | external in what sense? | 09:58 |
| \sh | yepp...and libkexif is a rdepend to it | 09:58 |
| allee | yeah, digikam and kipi-plugins and AFAIR showview rdepend on it | 09:59 |
| allee | s/showview/showimg/ | 09:59 |
| \sh | thats why it was transisition | 10:00 |
| allee | did ubuntu add c2 to all rdepends of kdelibs? (unlike debian will do) | 10:01 |
| \sh | no...all cxx libs which were compiled with g++4 | 10:02 |
| \sh | actually doko managed it here , so debian will have it too and debian will have less work with all the packages | 10:02 |
| Riddell | \sh: what's wrong with it? | 10:02 |
| \sh | riddell: konqui is stucking in between | 10:03 |
| Riddell | stucking? | 10:03 |
| \sh | it stops for 10 seconds, work again | 10:03 |
| \sh | stops etc | 10:03 |
| Riddell | hmm | 10:03 |
| Riddell | well I'll see when I install this daily kubuntu CD | 10:03 |
| allee | \sh okay, so no lex KDE in ubuntu (as doko announced in debian-devel-announce) | 10:04 |
| \sh | no lex KDE? | 10:04 |
| allee | \sh nitpicking: and why libkipi0 and not libkipi0c2 ;) I fail to see the difference between the two :( | 10:05 |
| \sh | allee: can be, that we forgot it...if it's c++ we should do it | 10:05 |
| \sh | if so, please put it on the wiki (wiki.ubuntu.com/CxxLibraryList) | 10:05 |
| allee | \sh: both c++ and kdelibs | 10:06 |
| Riddell | only kdelibs4 got a c2 on the end, anything else depends on that and so doesn't need one | 10:06 |
| \sh | kdelibs4 are already transed | 10:06 |
| \sh | riddell: libkexif stand on the list | 10:06 |
| \sh | sometimes I'M a machine | 10:06 |
| Riddell | "stand on the list"? | 10:06 |
| \sh | written on the list | 10:07 |
| \sh | denglish at it's best | 10:07 |
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| allee | Riddell: CxxLibraryList lists both libkipi and libkexif. both are in hoary compiled against kdelibs4c2. libkipi -> libkipic2, but libkipi->libkipi | 10:09 |
| allee | afaiu in debian because they depend on kdelibs4 the pkg name will not be changes, sh told me ubuntu adds always a c2 --> libkipi got no c2 | 10:09 |
| \sh | grmpf | 10:10 |
| \sh | i will revert the changes | 10:10 |
| allee | \sh now i'm confused. Scrolled CxxLibraryList to the right and there are lots of 'KDE, not renamed' | 10:11 |
| \sh | allee: yeah, and if u check for libkexif there is no kde ... | 10:12 |
| \sh | this cxx trans stuff will f*ck my brains out | 10:12 |
| allee | \sh but it's c++ and links against kdelibs | 10:12 |
| \sh | allee: check my buglist on bugzilla, i wasn't really looking on the b-d for some packages...:( | 10:13 |
| === \sh needs holidays... | ||
| allee | \sh so I add KDE to libkipi in wiki and add a note to #11567, right? | 10:14 |
| Riddell | \sh is wrong | 10:14 |
| \sh | allee: please do | 10:14 |
| allee | Riddell: he does not need holidays? | 10:14 |
| \sh | I will revert the patch | 10:14 |
| allee | \sh 'k | 10:14 |
| Riddell | well he's wrong saying ubuntu adds c2 to kde libraries, and he's wrong that he need holidays because then who would be our top KDE MOTU? | 10:15 |
| \sh | ok..1. riddell is right...2. he's wrong and 3. I'm not the KDE MOTU, you are | 10:16 |
| \sh | actually i need holidays or sex, one of the two ;) | 10:16 |
| \sh | reverting patch now | 10:16 |
| \sh | allee: sorry for the chaos | 10:17 |
| allee | \sh no problem at all | 10:18 |
| \sh | Uploading via ftp libkexif_0.2.1-2ubuntu2.dsc: done. | 10:19 |
| \sh | Uploading via ftp libkexif_0.2.1-2ubuntu2.diff.gz: done. | 10:19 |
| \sh | Uploading via ftp libkexif_0.2.1-2ubuntu2_source.changes: done. | 10:19 |
| \sh | done | 10:19 |
| allee | \sh your quick like hell ;) so I don't ask who to reopen a bug ;) | 10:20 |
| \sh | libkexif_0.2.1-2ubuntu2_source.changes ACCEPTED | 10:20 |
| \sh | allee: forget it :) | 10:20 |
| \sh | edit wiki page as well ;) | 10:20 |
| allee | okay, good CxxLibraryList is huge no fun to edit ;) | 10:21 |
| \sh | done as well | 10:21 |
| \sh | and all this stress after a couple of beers ;) | 10:21 |
| allee | some more beers will help now ;) | 10:22 |
| \sh | take a guess whats in my hand just right now ;) | 10:22 |
| Mez | \sh ... ew... we dont want to know | 10:23 |
| \sh | *grmpf* now I forgot to save the email address of my girl | 10:24 |
| \sh | damn | 10:24 |
| allee | \sh: Alt-f2 kaddressbook | 10:24 |
| allee | +? | 10:24 |
| Riddell | \sh is soo dumped | 10:25 |
| \sh | you see Riddell you see I NEED HOLIDAYS | 10:25 |
| \sh | and I need to get ace from my ass | 10:25 |
| \sh | any volunteers? | 10:25 |
| Mez | to get the ace from your ass? | 10:26 |
| Riddell | I don't know what that means, and I probably don't want to | 10:26 |
| Mez | nor do i :D | 10:26 |
| Mez | \sh... how cna you not know your girls email address? | 10:26 |
| \sh | mez: check cxxliblist | 10:26 |
| Mez | didnt you like - meet her ? | 10:26 |
| Mez | y? | 10:27 |
| Mez | meet her via the net 87 | 10:27 |
| \sh | mez: I met her today...this is not the problem | 10:27 |
| Mez | ah lol | 10:27 |
| Mez | \sh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CxxLibraryList ? | 10:28 |
| \sh | but I had her mail address in my c&p buffer | 10:28 |
| \sh | yepp | 10:28 |
| Riddell | \sh: you just met her and you lost her address? you'll regret that for the rest of your life | 10:28 |
| \sh | Riddell: no..not her address, her email address :) i know where she's living. | 10:29 |
| Mez | \sh ... | 10:29 |
| Mez | kclipboard | 10:29 |
| Mez | sorry | 10:29 |
| Mez | klipper :D | 10:29 |
| Mez | it keeps a c&p history | 10:29 |
| \sh | mez: yes, but not firefox | 10:29 |
| Mez | ...? | 10:29 |
| \sh | ah it's not there anymore | 10:30 |
| Mez | klipper keeps it no matter where you copy it from | 10:30 |
| \sh | na... | 10:30 |
| Mez | does for me | 10:30 |
| \sh | forget it...will ask her again | 10:30 |
| Riddell | \sh: what's the gossip, how did you meet? | 10:33 |
| \sh | riddell: I blogged about the CSD last saturday, right? | 10:33 |
| \sh | and here in cologne, it's not allowed to pee next to the street | 10:34 |
| Riddell | don't recall | 10:34 |
| Riddell | Christophers Street Day | 10:34 |
| \sh | so we have a special "force" from the municipalty they're coming and catching those guys and gals who are peeing next to the public toilets ;) | 10:34 |
| \sh | she catched me | 10:34 |
| \sh | normally it costs 30 euros or something :) but she asked me to have lunch with her | 10:35 |
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| Riddell | and you say "if you don't report me I'll make you some kubuntu packages" | 10:35 |
| Riddell | even better :) | 10:35 |
| karthik_r085 | Riddell: Hey | 10:35 |
| \sh | quite surprised :) | 10:35 |
| Riddell | karthik_r085: dood! | 10:35 |
| \sh | Riddell: and today I had lunch with her :) she's hotter then hell | 10:36 |
| Riddell | karthik_r085: what are your skills? | 10:36 |
| karthik_r085 | Riddell: Languages: C, C++, C#, Java, Ruby, Matlab, SAS | 10:37 |
| allee | \sh instead having to pay 30 Euro you were invited for lunch? You're kidding!!!! Well, maybe .., please post a photo of you ;) | 10:38 |
| Riddell | karthik_r085: would you be able to test the ruby packages in breezy? | 10:38 |
| \sh | alle: u r german?= | 10:38 |
| karthik_r085 | Riddell: Database: SQL, PL/SQL, Access, JDBC, Web: JavaScript, Java Applets, HTML, XML, JSP, I also know SPARC assembly language | 10:38 |
| allee | \sh yes | 10:39 |
| \sh | allee: http://shermann.blogweb.de/ you will find anything and everyting about me;) | 10:39 |
| karthik_r085 | Riddell: Yes, I can. | 10:39 |
| karthik_r085 | Riddell: I am familiar with Ruby testing tools, such as Test::Unit, Watir and ZenTest | 10:42 |
| Riddell | karthik_r085: well they're in breezy now so if you could install them and run some test KDE ruby apps to make sure they work that would be great | 10:42 |
| karthik_r085 | Riddell: I do not have breezy Colony 2 yet installed. I will install today and start testing them asap. | 10:43 |
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| Riddell | karthik_r085: rocking | 10:44 |
| Riddell | karthik_r085: do you know how to make debian packages? | 10:44 |
| \sh | allee: lach :) | 10:44 |
| karthik_r085 | Riddell: Is there some specific tools you want me to test the packages with? Also, is there any package that needs to be completed first? | 10:45 |
| allee | 'liebe ist' . 'liebe pisst' 'and die Eck' 'und dann weg' ... | 10:45 |
| Riddell | karthik_r085: it just needs confirmed that it is usable, so grad any KDE Ruby program and make sure it runs | 10:45 |
| karthik_r085 | Riddell: No. I do not know how to make debian packages. I can learn them soon. | 10:45 |
| karthik_r085 | Riddell: Ok | 10:47 |
| Riddell | karthik_r085: if you're looking for something to package KCall looks interesting | 10:47 |
| Riddell | karthik_r085: this is a good read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPackagingGuide | 10:48 |
| tvo | Riddell: if you've got some time to spare, here is a snapshot of kio_locate: http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/kio-locate-alpha-050705.tar.gz | 10:48 |
| Riddell | karthik_r085: and you can add to that guide as you find things missing | 10:48 |
| Riddell | tvo: it's on my TODO list, poke me if I don't get round to it soon | 10:50 |
| tvo | Riddell: thanks, it supports searches like "locate:foo*bar !.h", with cmdline equivalent: "locate -i -r foo[^/] *bar | grep -v .h" | 10:50 |
| karthik_r085 | Riddell: KCall looks interesting. Thanks for the info. | 10:51 |
| Riddell | karthik_r085: I havn't tried it, may well be the program is rubbish and doesn't work, but it might be the next must have application | 10:51 |
| Mez | hehe :D | 10:53 |
| Mez | I persuaded Seth_k to try for membership tonight :D | 10:53 |
| Mez | I think he'll do well | 10:53 |
| Riddell | Mez: who is seth_k? | 10:55 |
| Mez | seth_k form #kubuntu ... he's actualyl really good at giving support and stuff (e's helped me out of a few tight scrapes) | 10:56 |
| Mez | he's trying for MOTU ... but I'm gonna try and persuade him to come to the Kuuntu team too | 10:56 |
| Riddell | Mez: good stuff :) | 10:56 |
| Riddell | never noticed him, but running /last seth_k on #kubuntu shows a lot of activity | 10:57 |
| allee | Riddell, karthik_r085: AFAIR kcall is hacked severly at SoC. so there is hope to get something great ;) | 10:57 |
| Mez | * last :Unknown command | 10:57 |
| karthik_r085 | Riddell: I am little confused. You want me to test KCall, rite? | 10:58 |
| Mez | oh, and he's the one who helps me test out my breezy stuff :) seeing as he's running it | 10:58 |
| Riddell | karthik_r085: I want you to evaluate it, see if it's any good or not and if it is good make a package of it | 10:58 |
| Mez | he wubbles the k3b package :D great attention to detial apparently ;) | 10:58 |
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| Riddell | wubbles. sounds like a good word | 10:59 |
| karthik_r085 | Riddell: Ok. | 10:59 |
| froud | anyone test that nasty iso? | 10:59 |
| Riddell | froud: I will do so in a bit | 10:59 |
| Mez | wubbles is a great word | 11:00 |
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| froud | night all | 11:27 |
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