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godsmokeok12:02
_rodolfothen I "disable" eth1 (my wifi card) through kcontrol...12:03
godsmokewhy?12:03
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_rodolfobecause I have adsl on demand12:04
_rodolfonot permanently connected12:04
godsmokewell, you shouldn't be using kcontrol to disable the interface12:04
_rodolfoif I try to enable it again, it does not connect12:05
godsmokeof course not12:05
_rodolfowhy?12:05
godsmokeyou can't have this both ways12:05
kalenedraelthe other reason to reboot linux is if you loaded a corrupt kernel module and half your programs cease working12:05
godsmokeeither you use the interfaces config ... or you use kcontrol12:05
godsmokeyou can't use both12:05
kalenedraelthank god for magic sysrq12:05
_rodolfoI only use kcontrol12:05
godsmokeok -- well, I wouldn't12:06
_rodolfowhat does kcontrol do with the enable command? "ifdown eth1"?12:07
godsmokeprobably not12:07
_rodolfoifup eth112:07
_rodolfoI mean12:07
godsmokeprobably does its own proprietary ifconfig stuff12:07
godsmokewhich is why I don't use it12:07
_rodolfowhat do you use12:07
godsmokeif it used ifdown and ifup, you wouldn't be having problems12:07
godsmokeifdown/ifup12:07
_rodolfoso you edit /etc/netw.../interfaces?12:08
godsmokeonce, yes12:08
godsmokewhen I set up my computer, yea12:08
_rodolfoe.g. eth0 gets up on boot, I don't want it to12:08
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godsmokethat's an option in your interfaces file12:09
godsmokejust take it out12:09
_rodolfoyes, but I'm not sure what option12:09
godsmoke"auto eth0"12:09
_rodolfoit's not there, I have "mapping hotplug"12:09
_rodolfoscript grep12:10
_rodolfomap eth012:10
godsmokewhat?12:10
godsmokein /etc/network/interfaces?12:10
_rodolfoyes!12:10
godsmokepaste the entire file into a pastebin12:10
godsmokebrb -- 3 minutes -- put the pastebin link here12:12
_rodolfopasted as rodolfo12:12
_rodolfohttp://pastebin.com/30749512:13
godsmokeand eth0 is really being started on boot?12:15
godsmokeoh12:15
godsmoketake out "map eth0"12:15
_rodolfoyes12:15
_rodolfoI can disable it with kcontrol12:15
godsmoke<godsmoke> take out "map eth0"12:15
_rodolfook12:16
_rodolfoI would like to use dhcp for eth112:16
godsmokeno problem12:16
godsmokejust tell it that12:16
_rodolfoiface eth1 inet dhcp?12:17
godsmokeyep12:17
godsmokeand take out the ip settings12:18
_rodolfocan I keep the susbequent lines for wifi?12:18
godsmokeyep12:18
godsmokethey have nothing to do with ip12:18
_rodolfoshould I also remove "gateway"12:18
godsmokeyes -- that's an ip setting12:18
_rodolfoso i remove "address ... - netmask ... - broadcast ... - gateway ..."?12:19
godsmokeyep12:19
_rodolfocomment out is ok i suppose12:19
godsmokeyep12:19
_rodolfothanks12:20
godsmokeno problem -- reboot, check eth0 -- let me know if it worked12:20
_rodolfoone more question...?12:20
godsmokego ahead12:20
_rodolfohow can I have multiple settings for my wifi card?12:20
kalenedraelyou don't...12:21
kalenedraelthe idea with dhclient is that you don12:21
_rodolfokcontrol allows four, but they don't seem to work12:21
kalenedrael't need it12:21
kalenedraelbecause the card associates with any AP in range, then you dhclient12:21
kalenedraeland that's it12:21
_rodolfobut suppose I connect to my encrypted network12:22
kalenedraelthat's different, i guess12:22
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kalenedraelencryption is overrated tough12:22
kalenedraelthough12:22
kalenedraeli dont use it :P12:22
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_rodolfoI don't understand, excuse me...12:22
kalenedraeli figure that hacking my box from inside the netowrk is just as hard as hacking it from outside, so wep doesn't help me much12:23
kalenedraelif i wanted a secure connection to something i use ssh12:23
kalenedraeland anyway wep can be cracked12:24
godsmoke...12:24
kalenedraeleasily12:24
godsmokejust use a vpn12:24
_rodolfoI use it because I have seen I can connect to my neighbours net... I don't want to be easily exposed12:24
kalenedraeli could do that, too :P12:24
godsmoke_rodolfo: there's a scheme thing ... I don't have the setup info in my head right now12:24
godsmokegoogle it12:24
kalenedraelso? what can you do to your neighbor's network?12:24
kalenedraelnot much12:24
godsmokebreak it12:24
kalenedraelhow?12:24
_rodolfono. I just surf without paying!12:25
godsmokeuh ... kill the router12:25
godsmokethose things are usually crap12:25
godsmokewith 4 or 5 ddos exploits12:25
godsmokebreak into their stupid windows computers12:25
kalenedraelthe windows boxen don't count12:25
godsmokeof course they do12:25
godsmokethat's what protection is for12:25
kalenedraelsurfing without paying is fine with me12:25
_rodolfoso what is kwifimanager's setup for?12:26
kalenedraelas long as they're not using too much bandwidth12:26
kalenedraelstupid windows boxen12:26
godsmoke_rodolfo: for using kwifimanager to manage your network card12:26
kalenedraelyeah...12:26
_rodolfoyes?12:27
godsmokeyour question doesn't make any sense12:27
godsmoke"what is microsoft paint for?" -- "to paint things"12:27
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_rodolfono no12:27
_rodolfoI mean.. the setup for up to four wifi settings12:27
godsmoke...12:27
godsmokeso you can set four wifi setups through it12:28
godsmokeyou're talking in circles12:28
_rodolfobut you said I can't set up four settings! so why is it there12:28
godsmokeno I didn't12:28
godsmokewhen did I say that?12:28
_rodolfowell kalenedrael said it12:29
godsmokewhere?12:29
_rodolfoscroll up12:29
godsmokepaste it -- you're quoting him12:29
kalenedraelyou theoretically can have four settings and interchange them12:29
godsmokeI'm not12:29
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kalenedraelbut i don't know how to do it because i don't use it12:30
_rodolfook12:30
godsmokeanyway12:30
_rodolfohow can I obtaion the same effect by editing the config files?12:30
godsmokehere's the profile information12:30
godsmoke_rodolfo: I told you to google it because I didn't remember the syntax off-hand12:30
godsmokelike 10 minutes ago12:30
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godsmokebut I googled it, because I knew you wouldn't12:30
godsmokeyou just do "interface ethX(PROFILENAME)"12:31
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godsmokefor each profile12:31
godsmoketo set them up -- it's just "ifup ethX PROFILENAME"12:31
godsmokedone and done12:31
_rodolfonice, thanks12:32
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_rodolfoshould I put something for "wireless_essid" to connect to ANY network?12:34
MikeStylehi everyone, wondering how to install flash/shockwave on konqueror12:34
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godsmoke_rodolfo: yes, "any"12:34
kalenedraelMikeStyle, nope12:34
MikeStyle_rodolfo, ANY12:34
godsmokeexcept no quotes12:34
_rodolfogood12:35
kalenedraeldoesn't exist, i think12:35
godsmokeMikeStyle: konqueror supports mozilla/netscape plugins12:35
godsmokekalenedrael: yes, it aboslutely does12:35
MikeStylegodsmoke, how would i go about installing it12:35
kalenedraelok then12:35
godsmokeinstall the package ....12:35
godsmokelike everyone else12:35
MikeStyleuhm12:35
godsmokedo an apt-cache search for it12:35
MikeStylethrough terminal12:35
godsmokeI don't know the exact name12:35
MikeStyle?12:35
godsmokehowever you want12:35
godsmokekynaptic/synaptic/apt12:36
godsmoketake your pick12:36
FoamY_is_AwaYhow to kill arts and esd?12:37
godsmokethe processes?12:37
FoamY_is_AwaYyes12:37
godsmokefind their process ids via "ps aux"12:37
FoamY_is_AwaYi'm testing a throey12:37
godsmokeand issue a kill command for them12:37
FoamY_is_AwaYideal :p12:37
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_rodolfothanks kalenedrael and godsmoke, good night...12:39
godsmokegoodnight12:40
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nikkiaurgh12:53
nikkiawhy on earth is kubuntu using inetd ?!12:53
godsmokeKubuntu is just Ubuntu with KDE packages12:53
godsmoketalk to Ubuntu12:53
nikkiagodsmoke: ok, why on earth are they using it ?12:54
godsmokeif you have complaints about such things12:54
godsmoke#ubuntu12:54
kalenedrael...12:54
FoamY_is_AwaYwhats this mean?12:56
FoamY_is_AwaYshane@FoamY:~/TeamSpeak2RC2$ artsdsp TeamSpeak.bin12:56
FoamY_is_AwaY/usr/bin/artsdsp: line 108: exec: TeamSpeak.bin: not found12:56
godsmokeit means it couldn't find TeamSpeak.bin12:57
FoamY_is_AwaYthats odd12:57
godsmoketry an actual path12:57
FoamY_is_AwaYi can run the program by typeing TeamSpeak and it works12:57
godsmoke"artsdsp ./TeamSpeak.bin"12:57
godsmoke...12:57
FoamY_is_AwaYok i'll try it12:57
godsmokestop12:57
godsmokehold on12:57
godsmokewhere is TeamSpeak.bin?12:57
FoamY_is_AwaYi open console and type ~cd TeamSpeak_RC212:58
FoamY_is_AwaYand i get there12:58
FoamY_is_AwaYthats all12:58
godsmokesigh12:58
godsmokeget where?12:58
godsmokeI asked you where TeamSpeak.bin -- the file -- is located12:58
FoamY_is_AwaYto the teamspeak follder12:58
FoamY_is_AwaYi don't know it's located in the home folder12:59
godsmokeif you don't know -- how do you expect to call it?12:59
FoamY_is_AwaYi type in console TeamSpeak and it works12:59
godsmokethat has nothing to do with this whatsoever01:00
FoamY_is_AwaYmedia:/hda1/home/shane/TeamSpeak2RC201:00
FoamY_is_AwaYos what kopnq says01:00
FoamY_is_AwaYis even01:00
godsmokewhy are you typing "TeamSpeak.bin"?01:00
godsmokeis that an actual file?01:00
FoamY_is_AwaYi'm not i'm trying to run a comand01:00
godsmokeyes you are -- you're trying to run artsdsp01:00
FoamY_is_AwaYthat hopefully will let teamspeak not hog my soundcard01:00
FoamY_is_AwaYusing artsdsp TeamSPeak01:00
godsmokebut, I don't know why you called "TeamSpeak.bin" as the program name01:01
godsmokeif you could explain that -- maybe I could help01:01
FoamY_is_AwaYas far as i know thats the equivilent of an exe01:01
godsmokeno01:01
FoamY_is_AwaYok now i'm really los01:01
FoamY_is_AwaYlost even01:01
godsmokewhere is the TeamSpeak program INSTALLED?01:02
godsmokeor is it installed at all?01:02
FoamY_is_AwaYmedia:/hda1/home/shane/TeamSpeak2RC201:02
FoamY_is_AwaYthats where it is installed01:02
godsmokeok -- and what's in that directory?01:02
godsmokefilenames01:02
FoamY_is_AwaYthere are 2 icons in that folder that say teamspeak01:02
FoamY_is_AwaY1 is a script01:02
godsmokedon't use a gui01:02
FoamY_is_AwaYand the other is a .bin01:02
FoamY_is_AwaYwhy not01:02
godsmokebecause it lies to you01:03
FoamY_is_AwaYif i go through console it tells me the same thing01:03
godsmoketell me the exact filenames01:03
FoamY_is_AwaYthe consol and the gui tell me the exact same thing01:03
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FoamY_is_AwaYnot one thing is diffrent01:03
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godsmoketype the filenames01:04
godsmokefor the 3rd time01:04
FoamY_is_AwaYclicense.txt  libborqt-6.9-qt2.3.so  manual      TeamSpeak01:04
FoamY_is_AwaYclient_sdk    libHVDI.so.0.8.0       Readme.txt  TeamSpeak.bin01:04
FoamY_is_AwaYicon.xpm      libspeex.so.1.0.0      sounds      uninstall.sh01:04
FoamY_is_AwaYand that is exactly what the gui shows01:04
godsmokethat's 2 files?01:04
FoamY_is_AwaYthat are the exe for teamspeak01:04
FoamY_is_AwaYi can use either to run it01:04
FoamY_is_AwaYif i type teamspeak it runs the script(i think) and teamspeak.bin runs the program01:05
FoamY_is_AwaYeither that or i'm completely dumb and don't know what i'm talking about(most likely)01:06
godsmoketype "artsdsp /home/shane/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak"01:06
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godsmokethat should work01:06
ChurcH_of_FOamYkk01:06
ChurcH_of_FOamYi'll try01:06
ChurcH_of_FOamYdo i have to be in the teamspeak folder?01:06
godsmokeno01:07
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ChurcH_of_FOamYgodsmoke if a program is "sleeping" does that mean it's idel?01:10
godsmokeit just means they're not currently executing01:11
ChurcH_of_FOamYok so if i'm trying to get a program to use arts then artsd should not be idel correct?01:12
godsmokeuh -- it shouldn't mean one way or the other01:13
ChurcH_of_FOamYok01:13
godsmokea sleeping process is not dead01:13
godsmokeit may just not be doing anything01:13
ChurcH_of_FOamYok01:14
ChurcH_of_FOamYnow i run that command and i can hear everything01:14
ChurcH_of_FOamYbut i can't talk now01:14
ChurcH_of_FOamY>.<01:14
godsmokewell ... that is something to take up with TeamSpeak01:15
ChurcH_of_FOamYyea theres alot of stuff about it in linux01:15
godsmokehuh?01:15
ChurcH_of_FOamYbut theres no soulutions on there forums01:15
godsmokewell, ok01:15
ChurcH_of_FOamYexcept the artsdsp command which dosen't work01:15
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MikeStylehi, how would i enter in a password for a password protected .rar archive?01:16
MikeStylein ark01:16
MikeStyle...01:17
godsmokeI don't know if ark supports that01:18
uniqit doesn't.01:18
MikeStyleeven with the unrar plugin i installed?01:18
godsmokewho knows01:18
MikeStyleis there a plugin for it01:18
ChurcH_of_FOamYyea winsucks will produce more than 1 sound at a time but linux won't01:18
godsmokeI don't use password-protected files01:18
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uniqi've never had it working.01:18
stisevHi all01:18
stisevanyone here?01:18
ChurcH_of_FOamYsame sound card too could it be my drivers?01:18
stisevI'm having problems installing VMWare tools01:19
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stisevI'm running Kubuntu/Ubuntu  on VMware workstation (on Windows XP SP2)01:19
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stisevbut I'm trying to install VMWare tools01:19
godsmokestisev: ok ...01:21
stisevgoooooooooooooooooodsmoke!01:21
stisev)01:21
godsmoke:)01:21
godsmokeback again :)01:21
stisevHiyyas man :)01:21
stisevyep ;)01:21
godsmokedoing ok -- I'm gonna end up being your full-time ubuntu tech01:22
stisevhaha01:22
stisevthat wouldn't be so bad01:22
stisev:p01:22
stisevgodsmoke, you're just the person I wanted to see01:22
stisevdo you use VMWare? at all?01:22
godsmokeyes01:22
godsmokebut not on windows01:22
stisevThank jebus.01:22
ChurcH_of_FOamYare there alternate drivers for the intell soundcards?01:22
stisevyea, it doesn't matter01:22
stisevi'm trying to install VMWare tools on Linux01:23
godsmokeChurcH_of_FOamY: nope -- the drivers are well-established, and work very very well01:23
stisevbut I'm having a bitch of a time.01:23
stisevIt say "Run the install script"01:23
nikkiawow, nvu really did accept the mozilla development role model01:23
nikkia18 month old bugs still unfixed!01:23
stisev./ install.pl01:23
ChurcH_of_FOamYgodsmoke weard cause the card is a duplex card but can only put out one sound from a program at a time01:23
stisev(in the directions)01:23
ChurcH_of_FOamYit's driving me nuts01:23
ChurcH_of_FOamYi can use alsa or esd or atrs and it's still the same01:24
stisevbut the terminal is saying  "bash: ./: is a directory01:24
stisevHow the devil do I install this install.pl file01:24
stisev.pl =pearn language?01:24
ChurcH_of_FOamYgodsmoke any ideas?01:24
godsmokestisev: ...01:24
godsmokeChurcH_of_FOamY: I'm busy01:24
ChurcH_of_FOamYkk01:24
McScruffstisev - ./vmware-config.pl01:25
ChurcH_of_FOamYsorry diden't mean to bug ya >.<01:25
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stisevomg01:26
stisevlol01:26
McScruffdid it work :)01:26
stisevnot yet01:27
stisever I need to run sudo01:27
McScruff:)01:27
stisevnope not yet01:27
stisevstand by for error01:27
McScruff:S01:27
stisevhehe (pastebin baby!)01:27
McScruffi have never installed it on kubuntu but on most other distro's01:27
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stisevon ubuntu now01:27
stisevwell Kubuntu but in Gnome01:28
stisevKDE is getting to be a little too much eye cand yfor me01:28
stisev;)01:28
McScruffi dont like gnome, but its here incase i crave it like a cheese sandwich oneday01:28
stisevhaha01:28
stisevKDE?01:28
McScruffgnome01:28
McScruffits installed01:28
McScruffbut never used01:29
stisever no, I meant you use KDE?01:29
McScruffyea01:29
stisevcool01:29
McScruffi know what you mean about the eye candy01:29
stisevyep01:29
aseigostisev: so real it back. it's not hard to do =)01:29
stisev?01:29
stisevreal it back?01:30
aseigoer, reel it back01:30
aseigothe eye candy01:30
stisevwhat's that mean O_O01:30
McScruffget rid of it01:30
stisevtone down the eye candY?01:30
stisevyea true ;)01:30
aseigotry the reinhardt icons and a calmer/uglier widget style01:30
McScruffi cant i like my mates to say "ooooooo" when they see my desktop01:30
aseigodon't put a desktop wallpaper01:30
aseigoturn effects off in the styles control panel, etc01:31
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stisevok01:34
stisevMcScruff, it worked but it didn;t01:34
Mezstisev, how can something work but not work01:35
stisevsudo ./install.pl other01:35
stisevbut then it gave me an error01:35
stisevok here's the sg01:36
stisevhttp://pastebin.com/30754301:36
Mezstisev, you don't have a /tmp dir?01:38
stisevI do01:38
stisevI see it01:38
Meznvm /me is being stupid01:38
MezI think it's something to do with compiling against Xorg rather than against Xf86... 01:38
stisev?O_O?01:38
McScruff:O01:39
stisevAll I want to do is run  VMWare in 1680x105001:39
stisev:(01:39
McScruffsorry stisev, i was writing cv :)01:39
stisevon my windows computer01:39
McScruffon windows?01:39
stisevyea01:39
McScruffor run windows on it01:39
stisevno01:39
stisevMy laptop is a windows computer01:39
stisevi'm running linux on it01:39
Mezstisev, - join #vmware01:39
stisev???01:42
stisevno one there?01:42
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stisev:(01:44
stisevcrached IRC client01:44
stisevagh01:44
stisevMeow?01:46
McScrufflol01:46
McScruffhow did you crash it01:46
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stisevIt crashes01:47
stisevthis is an experimental client on windows01:47
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stisevstill in alpha01:47
stisevanyways, McScruff, any ideas about VMWare?01:47
stisevI really want to get it running native res01:47
stisev:(01:47
McScruffso you want to run vmware on windows?01:47
stisevyea01:47
McScruffuse the exe :)01:47
McScruffinstall it01:47
stisevnono01:47
stisevright now, I've got VMWare Workstation installed ON my windows XP SP2 laptop01:48
McScruffok01:48
stisevinside VMware, i've created a virtual HD for Kubuntu01:48
McScruffok01:48
stisevI want to run SVGA res on Kubuntu01:48
stisev(it's limited to 1024* ...)01:48
stisevI need to install crap inside linux for that01:48
stisevhence the aforementioned errors01:48
McScruffi have no idea i un vmware at 800x 600 (not sure why but i think it looks better as i dont fullscreen it)01:49
McScruff*run01:49
stisevMcScruff, because fullscreen mode doesn't do anything but stretch 800x600 -> whateve rres01:49
stisevinstalling the proper drivers will allow you to run it at real res01:49
stisevand accelerates graphics  stuff01:50
stisevanyways brb switching to linux partition01:50
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tikal26I am new here do I just ask a question02:04
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McScruffim new and i do :)02:09
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tikal26ok I am trying to install Processing http://processing.org/ but i need to make a symlik02:11
tikal26I don't know what is a Symllink?02:11
ChurcH_of_FOamYwhats the current alsa sound driver?02:13
ChurcH_of_FOamYdoes kubuntu have it from install02:13
tikal26ohh02:15
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penguinboyhey guys and gals...nerds and geeks02:31
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QueerAsFolkdid anyone see a lizard runthrough here???02:41
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QueerAsFolkdid anyone see a lizard runthrough here???02:45
godsmokeChurcH_of_FOamY: there's a difference between the alsa utils and the driver itself02:45
godsmokethe driver is in the linux kernel02:45
godsmokeit has nothing to do with ubuntu02:45
QueerAsFolkhey godsmoke 02:46
godsmokehi02:46
stisevgodsmoke, any ideas as to my previoius query02:46
godsmokeback from 4th of july dinner02:46
godsmokestisev: which was that, sorry -- bad memory02:46
ChurcH_of_FOamYok so what do i do just get a better soundcard02:46
QueerAsFolkhamburgers and hotdogs?02:46
godsmokeno, T-Bone steak02:47
QueerAsFolkmmm mmm good02:47
QueerAsFolkwe have rain and tornado warnings...no fireworks here02:47
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ChurcH_of_FOamYouch02:48
ChurcH_of_FOamYO_o02:48
godsmokeQueerAsFolk: is your nick because you like the tv show?02:48
ChurcH_of_FOamYwe might have fireworks toniight02:48
QueerAsFolkoh yes02:48
QueerAsFolkand i'm gay02:48
ChurcH_of_FOamYif it dosent rain02:48
stisevgodsmoke, stand by02:48
godsmokeheh02:48
godsmokeI've become a #kubuntu tech02:48
godsmokethis is sad02:48
stisevgodsmoke, http://pastebin.com/30756702:48
stisevgo there02:48
ChurcH_of_FOamYqueerasfolk so?02:49
stisevI've described it in great detail02:49
QueerAsFolklol godsmoke 02:49
QueerAsFolkgodsmoke: sometimes does not have the aptience to be a #kubuntu tech LOL02:49
stisevQueerAsFolk, haha02:49
stisevLo02:49
stisev:p02:49
godsmokeyou're right -- that's why I'm not one02:49
QueerAsFolklol02:49
godsmokeI'm not here to hold people's hands02:49
QueerAsFolkwe love him though02:50
godsmokeif they want that -- they can pay me $100/hr02:50
godsmokewhich is my discounted "wasting my time" rate02:50
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Master-Yodaahh!02:50
Master-Yodasomeone help please, my main ip 72.21.59.130 redirects to one of my clients!02:50
ChurcH_of_FOamYso queerAsfolk how ya doin02:50
Master-Yodaplease help how do i make it redirect to my pc02:50
Master-Yodalol02:50
ChurcH_of_FOamYstill got compant dl02:50
Master-Yodaor change its redirection02:50
QueerAsFolkwonderful!02:50
Master-Yodaplease please please02:50
QueerAsFolkfabulous!02:50
ChurcH_of_FOamYcool02:50
godsmokeMaster-Yoda: this sounds like it has nothing to do with Kubuntu02:50
ChurcH_of_FOamYyou watch absoulutly fabulous?02:51
Master-Yodaits hosted on kubuntu02:51
godsmokeso what?02:51
Master-Yodamaybe one of you guys cna help02:51
Master-Yodaanything02:51
Master-Yodaplease this is erally urgent02:51
godsmokeok, stop, slow down02:51
godsmokethis is not an on-demand service02:51
QueerAsFolkhow r u ChurcH_of_FOamY ????02:51
godsmokethis is a community effort -- you get what you get02:51
QueerAsFolklol02:51
ChurcH_of_FOamYi'm fine and you?/02:51
ChurcH_of_FOamYa little drunk offa bacardi 15102:52
godsmokeMaster-Yoda: explain what your site is, how this site is hosted, and how your clients' site is hosted, then I can begin to help you02:52
ChurcH_of_FOamYgot to celebrate the dispicable holiday know as the 4th of july02:52
QueerAsFolkHappy 4th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!02:52
ChurcH_of_FOamYyea02:53
QueerAsFolkand in case I forgot...Happy Cinco de Mayo as well02:53
ChurcH_of_FOamYlets celebrate a holiday that invloes killing people takeing there land and calling it our own02:53
QueerAsFolknow now02:53
ChurcH_of_FOamYtrade you some shiny plastic beads for your land >.<02:53
QueerAsFolklol02:53
QueerAsFolkO_o02:53
QueerAsFolko_O02:54
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QueerAsFolkwelcome Poromies !!!!!!!!!!!!02:54
godsmokeMaster-Yoda: ok -- well, it's not a good idea to come in here screaming about something completely unrelated to kubuntu, and then demand help immediately, and then leave02:54
QueerAsFolkPoromies: if it is tech support you seek...just take a number...and godsmoke will call for you when he is ready!02:55
QueerAsFolkLOL02:55
godsmokeI haven't even seen Poromies talk02:55
QueerAsFolknor i02:55
godsmokeso why are you addressing him as if he asked for tech support?02:56
QueerAsFolkperhaps he just signed up to monitor the class02:56
godsmokehe's auditing my master class on how to be an arrogant jerk02:56
QueerAsFolksi02:56
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godsmokebut what he doesn't know is ... I'm secretly working for the CIA, looking for advanced Kubuntu programmers to come join the dark side02:57
QueerAsFolkWelcome Heart_2 ...Happy 4th to you!02:57
QueerAsFolklol godsmoke 02:57
QueerAsFolkloose women lying in ponds, handing out swords, is no basis for a system of government.03:01
ChurcH_of_FOamYnope03:04
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QueerAsFolkWelcome Heart_ and dutch!03:05
godsmokeQueerAsFolk: what, are you a walmart greeter now or something?03:05
ChurcH_of_FOamYlol03:06
QueerAsFolksi si Senor.....you handle the cheerful and helpful tech supprt...and I will be the greeter03:06
QueerAsFolkLOL03:06
ChurcH_of_FOamYlol03:06
ChurcH_of_FOamYtheres nothing wrong with wallmart greeters03:06
QueerAsFolkno there isn;t03:06
godsmokeChurcH_of_FOamY: only one 'l'03:07
ChurcH_of_FOamYhuh?03:07
QueerAsFolkis there a hyphen03:07
stisevgodsmoke, sorry, back03:07
godsmokeno03:07
godsmoke"walmart"03:07
stisevI was afk until now03:07
QueerAsFolkdanke03:07
ChurcH_of_FOamYoh yea03:07
ChurcH_of_FOamYforgot03:07
godsmokestisev: ok ...03:07
stisevany ideas about that error message? :(03:07
ChurcH_of_FOamYgotta love sam walton >.<03:08
liz4rdOMG CHEESE!!!!!!!!!!!!03:08
QueerAsFolkstisev: is a brave soul seekign tech support from our resident tuech guru and all-around nice linux god!03:08
godsmokestisev: no -- vmware is tough to install -- it's not meant to be this easy process -- I'd ask on #vmware, and their forums and such03:08
stisev#vmware on this server?03:08
QueerAsFolkthat was a sweet answer godsmoke 03:08
stisevor on Efnet?03:08
godsmokeyep03:08
stisev??03:08
godsmokehere03:08
godsmokefreenode03:08
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liz4rddam you all no response to cheese :(03:09
QueerAsFolka girl???????03:09
godsmokeI don't know about efnet -- I don't go there03:09
stisevlol cool03:09
QueerAsFolki have never seena girl in here before03:09
godsmokeQueerAsFolk: what is wrong with you?03:09
QueerAsFolknothing03:09
godsmokeare you on crack or something?03:09
QueerAsFolkLOL03:09
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QueerAsFolklmfao03:09
godsmokeyou're jumping on the chance to say hello to anyone who might walk in03:09
godsmokeand now you're obsessing over the fact that someone with a girl's name as a nick entered03:09
godsmokewhich a) doesn't mean they're a girl03:10
godsmokeand b) is not shocking03:10
QueerAsFolki am the G-R-E-E-T-E-R and you are the one to offer helpfuul and friendly tech supprt...Remeber????03:10
judithI'm trying to install gstreamer and taglib! what do I have to type on the command line? apt-get install <package-name> results in "cannot find <package-name>!"03:10
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juileGIVE ME ATTENTION03:10
juileMUUHAHAHA03:10
juileLO03:10
juile:P03:10
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godsmokejudith: well ... you have to look up the package names03:10
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juileLOL03:11
godsmokejudith: this is usually done via an apt-cache search -- but you can use tools such as Kynaptic or Synaptic to do it graphically03:11
judithgodsmoke: taglib and gstreamer are the names...right?03:11
godsmokeno03:11
godsmokethose are programs03:11
QueerAsFolknot Kynaptic...it is terrible03:11
godsmokethey're not the specific package names03:11
QueerAsFolkuse Synaptic instead03:11
godsmokeyou have to look them up03:11
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QueerAsFolklol03:11
judithgodsmoke: where do I start? google?03:12
godsmokejuile: you had those laying around -- I'm not sure I want to know03:12
godsmokejudith: no ... read what I wrote03:12
juileoh well then03:12
godsmoke<godsmoke> judith: this is usually done via an apt-cache search -- but you can use tools such as Kynaptic or Synaptic to do it graphically03:12
QueerAsFolkjudith....go to terminal03:12
juileQueerAsFolk played with them last night03:12
QueerAsFolkJudith....do you have Synaptic installed?03:13
judithQueerAsFolk: I have Kynaptic03:13
godsmokehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/ works as well03:13
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judithok03:13
QueerAsFolkkynaptic is no good03:13
QueerAsFolkgo to terminal and type sudo apt-get install synaptic03:14
judithOK03:14
QueerAsFolkthen run...hit reload button...and do a search for gstreamer etc03:14
judithok thanx03:14
QueerAsFolknp03:14
QueerAsFolkglad to help03:14
QueerAsFolkthat's what we do around here...service with a smile!03:15
judithI guess I can un-install kynaptic, right?03:15
QueerAsFolkno need to do that03:15
stisevbbl03:17
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QueerAsFolkWelcoem DavidLeeRoth !!!03:18
DavidLeeRothhey03:18
QueerAsFolkhey hey hey03:19
QueerAsFolkDavidLeeRoth: are youo new top these partsd?03:20
DavidLeeRothwhere the hell did you learn how to spell?03:20
QueerAsFolkschool03:21
QueerAsFolkLOL03:21
DavidLeeRothand where the hell did you buy your keyboard?03:21
QueerAsFolkfrom the keyboard store03:22
godsmokethey have keyboard stores?03:23
QueerAsFolksi Senor03:25
QueerAsFolknext to the wallmart03:25
godsmokeit's "walmart"03:25
godsmokeget it right03:25
QueerAsFolkaye aye mein commandant!03:26
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QueerAsFolkWelcome Hippie!!!!!!!!!!03:32
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penguinboywhat??? no welcome?????03:35
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QueerAsFolkThe Monchmeister!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!03:35
monchyhey queer03:36
QueerAsFolkhey queer lover!03:36
monchyyou mean liz4rd03:36
QueerAsFolki mena you03:36
monchynever03:36
QueerAsFolkyou little queer lover you03:36
monchyblah03:36
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QueerAsFolklol03:36
QueerAsFolkWelcome |k3seimbang4n| 03:37
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QueerAsFolkWelcome wirwzd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!03:40
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QueerAsFolkWelcome GIGOLO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11103:42
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QueerAsFolkshit03:44
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ChurcH_of_FOamYwhat?03:47
QueerAsFolkhey Foamy!03:48
ChurcH_of_FOamYyea?03:48
ChurcH_of_FOamY^_^03:48
ChurcH_of_FOamYwhats up03:48
ChurcH_of_FOamY?03:49
QueerAsFolknot much03:49
QueerAsFolkhow are you 03:49
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm fine and you my freind?03:49
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QueerAsFolkwonderful...fabulous...sassy03:49
=== godsmoke can hear the fireworks booming throughout manhattan
godsmokeI'm like ... 5+ miles away03:50
godsmokeand I can hear them easily03:50
QueerAsFolklucky dog03:50
godsmokeI'm not a dog, silly03:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYnice03:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYsoory man i just don't want to get yelled at cause she don't know03:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYlistens to evanacence03:51
godsmokemissing a /me there03:52
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ChurcH_of_FoamYqueer what timezone(me est)03:55
QueerAsFolk10:0003:57
QueerAsFolkpm03:57
QueerAsFolkUS Eatern03:57
QueerAsFolkEastern03:57
QueerAsFolklol03:57
ChurcH_of_FoamYnice ^_^03:58
True_Chaos|Laptoanyone know how to switch keyboards?  I was a tool when i installed kubuntu and selected standard keyboard, but ive got a dell one, and im wondering if its possible to change it03:58
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GIGOLOhi04:02
GIGOLOkk] 04:02
QueerAsFolkHEY HEY HEY GIGOLO !!!!!!!!!!!!104:03
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QueerAsFolkdid anyone see a lizard run through the chatroom?04:05
monchyyea it was attached to foamy04:06
monchyfoamy what did you do to liz4rd :P04:07
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi diden't do nothing why?04:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_O04:09
monchyrelax just joshin lol04:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok04:09
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FoamY_is_WiccaNlistens to souxsie and the banshees04:11
QueerAsFolkkewl04:12
QueerAsFolki love the B-52s04:12
QueerAsFolkand I love Frankie Does Hollywood04:12
QueerAsFolkor is that Goes04:13
FoamY_is_WiccaNyea not many peole know of that band04:13
QueerAsFolkprobably not Frankie "Does" Hollywood04:13
FoamY_is_WiccaNi herd of them ^_^04:13
FoamY_is_WiccaNmost of my music is goth or pagan04:13
QueerAsFolkwhat are your favorite bands?04:13
FoamY_is_WiccaNum04:13
FoamY_is_WiccaNsouxie of course and voltare and amon aroth04:14
FoamY_is_WiccaNand system of a down and.....04:14
QueerAsFolkamon aroth?04:14
FoamY_is_WiccaNa underside gothic band04:15
QueerAsFolki like kittie and slipknot04:15
FoamY_is_WiccaNfaith in the muse04:15
FoamY_is_WiccaNand eliria04:15
FoamY_is_WiccaNproblibly all bands you never herd of04:15
QueerAsFolki LOVE Cyndi Lauper!  She is absolutely to die for!04:15
FoamY_is_WiccaNwww.project.com04:15
FoamY_is_WiccaNi have some techno remixes of her04:16
FoamY_is_WiccaNlike time after time04:16
QueerAsFolktechno is good04:16
FoamY_is_WiccaNand such04:16
FoamY_is_WiccaNyea it is04:16
QueerAsFolki love clubbing04:16
FoamY_is_WiccaNthere are no clubs where i live04:16
FoamY_is_WiccaN>.<04:16
QueerAsFolkwhat kind of movies do you like04:16
FoamY_is_WiccaNhorror and horror only04:16
FoamY_is_WiccaNif it dosen't scare me then it's crap04:17
FoamY_is_WiccaN13 ghosts was awsome04:17
FoamY_is_WiccaN^_^04:17
FoamY_is_WiccaNbut i have yet to get scared this year04:17
QueerAsFolki like a good scare every now and then as long as I have a strong date to protect me04:17
FoamY_is_WiccaN^_^04:18
QueerAsFolkwhat is the scariest movie you have ever seen04:18
FoamY_is_WiccaNhmmm04:18
FoamY_is_WiccaNi would have to say it's a tie between 13 ghosts and hellraser04:18
FoamY_is_WiccaNthat rob zombie movie was a joke04:18
QueerAsFolki thought reviewers said the Ring was the scariest movie of late04:19
FoamY_is_WiccaNthats them04:19
QueerAsFolkwhat kind of food do you liek04:19
FoamY_is_WiccaNi'm a witch i seen shit that will make your flesh crwal04:20
QueerAsFolki love Chinese04:20
FoamY_is_WiccaNall kinds from all cultures04:20
FoamY_is_WiccaNand i love sushi04:20
QueerAsFolki love Thai04:20
QueerAsFolkand Mexican04:20
FoamY_is_WiccaNnice04:20
FoamY_is_WiccaNmexican is good haven't tryed tai04:21
QueerAsFolki would have to saw that Chinese is my #1 favorite04:21
QueerAsFolkTai is like very spicy Chinese food04:21
FoamY_is_WiccaNoh wow i like spicy ^_^04:21
QueerAsFolki like spicy too04:21
FoamY_is_WiccaNi have peppers that i made that will burn your flesh04:21
FoamY_is_WiccaNyou have to wash your hands after handling the pepers04:22
QueerAsFolkhabaneros?04:22
FoamY_is_WiccaNor it will peel your skin layer by layer04:22
FoamY_is_WiccaN^_^04:22
QueerAsFolkare they called habaneros?04:22
FoamY_is_WiccaNyes04:22
FoamY_is_WiccaNbut there a sertain type04:23
FoamY_is_WiccaNthey can cause you to hallucinate if you eat enough04:23
QueerAsFolkwow04:23
QueerAsFolkdo you have any favorite clothing makers?04:23
QueerAsFolkI like Hilfiger04:23
FoamY_is_WiccaNi like clothed that do not have any brand names or endorsements04:24
FoamY_is_WiccaNwhich usualy means i end up wearing hemp04:24
QueerAsFolkyeah...lots of people do....but i like the way Hilfiger cuts his pants...they really show off my assets in a pleasing manner04:25
FoamY_is_WiccaNwhich is more durable than most clothes04:25
FoamY_is_WiccaNdo you have msn?04:25
QueerAsFolkno..i have jabber and i have gaim04:25
FoamY_is_WiccaNoh04:26
QueerAsFolkmsn is a microsucks product04:26
FoamY_is_WiccaNdamn i was gonna send you a pic04:26
FoamY_is_WiccaNtue but it works04:26
QueerAsFolklet me get it04:26
QueerAsFolki would lie a pic04:26
FoamY_is_WiccaNtrying to send via dcc04:28
QueerAsFolkdcc it again04:28
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QueerAsFolkthe dcc connection is failing...let me get an msn account04:29
FoamY_is_WiccaNkk04:29
FoamY_is_WiccaNlistens to claire voyant04:30
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FoamY_is_WiccaNlistens to ghost in the shell04:35
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FoamY_is_WiccaNlistens to switchblade symphony04:43
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stisevgodsmoke, hey04:58
stisevgodsmoke,  boo ;)04:58
stisevgodsmoke, gotta question for you.04:59
QueerAsFolkwatch it....waking godsmoke is like waking a hibernating bear05:00
stisevhaha05:00
stisevQueerAsFolk, may I ask you the Q?05:00
QueerAsFolksi05:00
stisevQueerAsFolk in kubuntu [KDE] , I hate how the windows default to their crappy layout, with all of the navigation panels05:00
stisevhow do I force KDE to show windows how I want them?05:01
stisev(classic look - tree view with no navigation panels, side panels)05:01
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stisevdo you know how to configure how KDE shows the folders?05:02
QueerAsFolkI am not sure stisev perhaps #kde could help you out05:03
stisevlo05:03
stisever lol05:03
QueerAsFolklol05:03
QueerAsFolki know i know now i sound like godsmoke05:03
QueerAsFolklol05:03
QueerAsFolknight guys and gals...nerds and geeks05:06
stisevnighty05:06
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QueerAsFolkbon jour tsunammis 05:07
tsunammisbonjours05:07
tsunammisvous ete anglais ?05:08
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QueerAsFolkoui05:09
tsunammisd'accord05:09
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QueerAsFolkEtes vous Francias?05:10
tsunammisoui05:11
tsunammisbut my english is bad !05:11
tsunammisMais j'ai envie d'apprendre l'anglais05:11
twidgetthere is apparently no package named flashplayer-mozilla05:13
QueerAsFolktry the the other way around05:14
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twidgetinvalid operation05:15
QueerAsFolkmmm05:15
QueerAsFolkil y a une classe anglaise pres de vous?05:17
QueerAsFolksudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla05:17
QueerAsFolkau revoir mes ami05:18
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twidgetokay... there's a whole bunch of mozilla- and mozilla-firefox- packages in kynaptic, but no flashplayer05:21
QueerAsFolkdid you add any new repositories or are you working with the standard repositories listing?05:21
QueerAsFolktsunammis: Pouvoior vous a un jour merveilleux demain.05:22
QueerAsFolktwidget: did you add any new repositories or are you working with the standard repositories listing?05:23
twidgetI added the repositories at http://ubuntuguide.org05:23
QueerAsFolklet me dcc you a good sources.list05:24
QueerAsFolkdo you know how to edit it05:24
QueerAsFolkyou know cd /etc/apt and then from term type sudo pico sources.list05:24
twidgetyes, I can edit it05:25
twidgetcouldn't I just overwrite it with yours, though?05:25
QueerAsFolkyes05:27
QueerAsFolkdcc is not working05:27
QueerAsFolkis it05:27
twidgetyeah, I see05:28
QueerAsFolkk05:28
QueerAsFolkit is in openoffice05:28
twidgetmy e-mail is charles@charlesstricklin.com05:28
twidgetAlthough Thunderbird and I are having a spat, at current.05:29
QueerAsFolkoniots way05:29
QueerAsFolkonits way05:29
QueerAsFolknight gang05:30
monchynight queer05:30
QueerAsFolkbeunos tardes mi amigos y amigas!05:31
QueerAsFolkI may be queer....but always remeber this...I am out....proud...and loud!05:31
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twidgetgot it05:32
QueerAsFolkgreat!05:32
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QueerAsFolklol05:32
QueerAsFolkyou want me...you know you do05:32
monchyi'd rather drink bleach05:33
QueerAsFolkLOL05:33
QueerAsFolknight gang05:33
FoamY_is_AwaYnight dear05:33
twidgetbye, thanks05:35
twidgetbrb05:35
FoamY_is_AwaYand send me an email damnit05:37
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godsmoke...05:41
FoamY_is_AwaY^_^05:41
FoamY_is_AwaYi'm drunk05:45
FoamY_is_AwaYbarcadi 151 does that to you >.<05:46
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FoamY_is_wiccananyone here broadcast with shoutcast?06:09
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FoamY_is_wiccanwhats the command to install vmware06:18
seth_ksudo give_$189_to_emc06:19
seth_k:D06:19
seth_kno, seriously now, after you buy it, you just run the install file06:21
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FoamY_is_wiccanbuy it why?06:26
FoamY_is_wiccani just hacked it >.<06:26
FoamY_is_wiccanit's easyer for really poor people06:26
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seth_krolleye06:31
FoamY_is_wiccanwhy?06:34
FoamY_is_wiccannot everyone has money you know06:34
FoamY_is_wiccansome people are actually legitimatly poor >.<06:34
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godsmokeFoamY_is_wiccan: "hacked it"?06:41
FoamY_is_wiccanyes06:41
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FoamY_is_wiccani am a windows hacker06:41
FoamY_is_wiccanand now a linux hacker06:41
godsmokeand what is that?06:41
FoamY_is_wiccanonly because i'm poor06:41
FoamY_is_wiccana person who hacks software to work for free cause there poor06:42
FoamY_is_wiccanand linux is great which is why i actually feel bad about doin it06:42
godsmokedoing what?06:42
FoamY_is_wiccanif it where windows i could give a shit less06:42
crimsunyou have a rather confused set of "morals" ;)06:42
FoamY_is_wiccannot really if you think about it06:42
godsmokehow does one make linux free?06:43
FoamY_is_wiccanwindows is a monopoly06:43
godsmokeI mean -- it's already free06:43
FoamY_is_wiccanit owns 95% of the market06:43
godsmokewhy do you have to "hack it" to make it free?06:43
FoamY_is_wiccanand the apps are pricy06:43
FoamY_is_wiccanlinux is free but some apps arnt like vmware06:43
FoamY_is_wiccanalmost 200 dollars us06:43
godsmokeso -- instead of "hack" -- you mean go online, and find a pirated version, or a crack for it, or a serial number06:43
FoamY_is_wiccanpoor people like me can't afford that 06:43
godsmokeyeah -- because it cost them a lot of money to make06:43
godsmokedo then you don't use it06:43
FoamY_is_wiccanno i mean hack06:44
godsmokedon't use it then06:44
crimsunwhy hack when there are free alternatives?06:44
FoamY_is_wiccani don't use others warez06:44
FoamY_is_wiccanfree alternative to vmware?06:44
FoamY_is_wiccanman i have much to learn06:44
godsmokeso how did you "hack" vmware?06:45
FoamY_is_wiccani used an alogrithm that i developed for windows (surprisingly) that enables you to generate keys for the software06:45
FoamY_is_wiccanso you can use it beyond the trial06:46
godsmokeno, you didn't06:46
seth_kyeah, i'm doubting that06:46
FoamY_is_wiccanyes i did06:46
godsmokeit's fairly obvious this is a load of bull06:46
godsmokego away06:46
FoamY_is_wiccanand how do you figure that06:46
seth_kyou can write a rather complicated cracking algorithm, but you don't know how to install vmware?06:46
seth_khmmmmmmmmm06:46
FoamY_is_wiccani don't take credit for others work06:46
godsmokemy 6 year old step-sister could tell you're lying out of your ass06:46
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FoamY_is_wiccani wrote the alogrithem in my windows box where it's easyer06:47
godsmokeright06:47
seth_kmm hm06:47
kubuntufanhello??06:47
godsmokebye06:47
FoamY_is_wiccanand then i use it to generate my keys06:47
FoamY_is_wiccanyou know what 06:47
FoamY_is_wiccanyour being quite mean and i mean that with no disrespect cause i value your help06:47
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godsmokeI couldn't care less if you meant it with disrespect06:48
FoamY_is_wiccani understand that06:48
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FoamY_is_wiccanbut i am smart enough to know that your better than me at linux and i than you at windows06:48
godsmokeseriously -- you're lying, everyone knows it -- stop talking about pirating software, and go06:48
arcanistheroguehey, i have a question06:48
seth_ksure thing06:48
seth_kwhat's up?06:48
arcanistheroguewell06:48
arcanistherogueyou know how you can make the wallpaper cycle?06:48
seth_kyep06:48
arcanistherogueis there anyway to make it go smoother06:48
seth_kbtw foamy, if you're not lying, what language did you use and let's see 10 lines of it06:49
FoamY_is_wiccangodsmoke wether you choose to beleve me or not is irellevent to me i just don't want badd feelings between us06:49
seth_karcanis, i don't know of one06:49
FoamY_is_wiccancause i value your help when you offer it06:49
arcanistherogueoh ok06:49
arcanistheroguethanks though06:49
seth_kLet me check real quick06:49
seth_kbefore you run off06:49
arcanistherogueoh ok06:50
arcanistheroguethanks 06:50
FoamY_is_wiccani am not here to piss you off godsmoke just to learn what you know06:50
godsmokeFoamY_is_wiccan: there are no feelings at all between us -- we're not going to be talking06:50
FoamY_is_wiccanwell i'm sorry to have irritated you and i'm sorry that you feel confident enough to 06:50
FoamY_is_wiccandoubt my hacking skills in windows06:50
godsmokebye bye06:51
seth_kLOL now you're blowing smoke! You won't even honor my request06:51
seth_kgo away06:51
FoamY_is_wiccanand as for why i brag about it is because i'm proud that i can do these things06:51
FoamY_is_wiccanin windows06:51
godsmokeyou're not a bad troll06:51
FoamY_is_wiccani only wish that i could become as smart as you in linux06:51
seth_karcanis, it's not even in the featurerequest list. I would file a bug at bugs.kde.org and mark it as wishlist, and ask for the feature :)06:51
godsmokearcanistherogue: you mean you want it to fade?06:51
FoamY_is_wiccanand if i offrnded you godsmoke i am very sorry and i'm very serious06:51
arcanistherogueyeah06:51
godsmokeheh06:51
arcanistheroguelike the mac os x <_<06:52
FoamY_is_wiccancause you are smarter than me in linux and i'm not to afraid to admit that06:52
godsmokeI don't want that feature in kde -- it's bloatware06:52
seth_khaha06:52
arcanistheroguei saw it on my friends mac and it looked nifty06:52
FoamY_is_wiccani know my limitations06:52
godsmokeadding those types of features is bad for the market06:52
seth_ki heart eye candy, i'm not gonna lie06:52
arcanistheroguewhat market?06:52
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godsmokeI support keeping them out06:52
seth_kwhy? Linux has low bling06:52
godsmokethe wm market06:52
FoamY_is_wiccanand buy the way the vmware keys are the same for linux as they are for windows06:52
seth_kfoamy, shush06:52
FoamY_is_wiccanand i was actually suprised at that06:52
godsmokeFoamY_is_wiccan: they're not, actually06:53
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FoamY_is_wiccanwell i just don't want him to hate me06:53
godsmokeand I know06:53
godsmokebecause I own vmware06:53
seth_kwe don't want to hear about cracking software, nor do we want to hear you lie about how you wrote a program06:53
seth_khaha, pwnt06:53
FoamY_is_wiccangodsmoke yes they are06:53
godsmokeno, they're not06:53
FoamY_is_wiccanyes they are06:53
arcanistheroguewell i made this really nifty panel background, is there anywhere i can submit this?06:53
arcanistherogueit looks really nice06:53
seth_kUbuntu Artwork, on the forums?06:53
FoamY_is_wiccani am running the same key on both of my computers06:53
arcanistheroguereally?06:53
FoamY_is_wiccanwin and lin06:53
arcanistheroguehmm06:53
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arcanistheroguelemme look inot that06:53
arcanistherogue*into06:53
seth_kyeah, click the Gallery tab up top on the right06:54
seth_khave a link?06:54
_yasserhow can i remove home config files for desktop settings??06:54
FoamY_is_wiccaneither it's a glitch or something that i did wrong06:54
seth_kor you're lying06:54
seth_k:D06:54
FoamY_is_wiccaneither way it works06:54
arcanistherogueno, it got it06:54
FoamY_is_wiccangodsmoke may i pm you?06:54
godsmokeno06:54
FoamY_is_wiccank06:54
godsmokebelieve me -- it doesn't ...06:54
godsmokeI own vmware for linux06:54
godsmokeI've tried using the key on the windows version06:54
godsmokeit absolutely does not work06:55
FoamY_is_wiccani swear the same key i use for linux that i use for windows06:55
godsmokego away06:55
FoamY_is_wiccanthen it's a glitch06:55
godsmokeheh06:55
godsmokewelcome to ignore06:55
FoamY_is_wiccanbut it works and i swear to that06:55
seth_ki second the ignore06:55
FoamY_is_wiccani woulden't make up something like that man06:55
FoamY_is_wiccanwell then fuck you ignorant bastards for doubting me06:55
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seth_kgodsmoke, why do you think eyecandy is bad? if there's a pref to turn it off, isn't it better to try to $bling++ and attract more users?06:56
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godsmokebuilding it into a wm is bad06:56
arcanistheroguehey, seth_k, i need your help06:56
godsmokeif people want to create some add-on ... go ahead06:57
seth_kphillip = FoamY btw06:57
godsmokebut I don't want the code in my system06:57
seth_khmm06:57
phillipyea this is my other name yes06:57
arcanistheroguei accidentally submitted it twice06:57
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seth_kthe bug?06:57
godsmokeseth_k: obviously -- that's why I have his hostname on ignore, not the nick06:57
phillipbut why?06:57
arcanistheroguehow do i unsubmit it?06:57
arcanistherogueno, the thing on the kde art06:57
phillipi don't understand what i did wrong06:57
seth_kah06:57
arcanistheroguei thought it didnt post, and that was a preview06:57
arcanistherogueso i decided to check if it worked06:58
phillipand it's really unfair of you to treat me like this06:58
arcanistheroguethen i checked home06:58
arcanistherogueand it was there twice06:58
phillipi have done nothing wrong to you06:58
phillipand i have not disrespected you untill my last comment06:58
seth_kyeah06:58
phillipand if you continue to ignore me that just means that you immature little pricks06:58
seth_ki've never used the gallery myself, so if you can't find a way to delete an image, just hit the "report to moderator" link on one of them and explain what happened06:59
seth_kno big deal :)06:59
phillipwho don't have any concern for anyone but yourseves06:59
twidgetokay! Now, if I could just get  flash installed into firefox!06:59
arcanistherogueso where is the moderator button?06:59
seth_kclick Image Tools in the top right06:59
seth_kit's the last option06:59
phillipi actually liked you both seth_k and godsmoke cause you helped me07:00
crimsunphillip: let me make this clear: (1) follow the Ubuntu Code of Conduct; (2) we do not condone piracy; (3) trolling is frowned upon; (3) grammatically coherent English really aids an argument07:00
phillipit's really insulting that you doubt me07:00
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phillipcrimsun i was not aware of these things i apologize for any disrespect07:00
phillipand what is trolling?07:01
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phillipand i understand that you do not like warez mentiond here and i apologize for that also07:01
phillipi just don't like when people doubt me07:02
phillipcause i don't lie07:02
seth_kI like the panel bg, arcanistherogue :)07:02
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arcanistherogueyup07:03
arcanistheroguei like mine 48 pixels tall07:03
arcanistheroguesame on all OS's07:03
Church_of_foamycrimsun what is trolling?07:03
Church_of_foamyi don't understand that term.07:03
seth_kme too07:04
seth_kbeh, the last breezy upgrade borked my cursors07:04
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Church_of_foamyseth_k whats the diffrence between brezzy and hoary?07:04
seth_karcanis, i backported gimp 2.2.8 today if you use backports07:05
seth_kit's in staging07:05
arcanistheroguehmm07:06
arcanistheroguei use em07:06
Church_of_foamyseth_k thank for igonoring me man i don't know what i did to deserve it07:06
twidgetthe Flash player can't run on x64?!?07:07
seth_knope07:08
seth_kthere is a tutorial on the forums for running a 32-bit copy of Firefox07:08
seth_kbut meh07:08
twidgetwell... dirty words!!!07:08
seth_khaha :D07:08
kalenedraeli don't think my gcc can even compile 32-bit programs07:08
twidgetcrap07:08
kalenedraelnor can my system run them07:08
seth_kgo yell at Macromedia, we all have07:08
seth_kthey don't care07:08
seth_khence there still not being a Linux Shockwave, even for 32-bit07:09
seth_k:/07:09
kalenedraeli have a 100% 64-bit system...07:09
twidgetwhat's the address for the forums?07:09
kalenedrael(well, i bet there is some obscure 32-bit binary file somewhere on this disk, but not one that will ever get used)07:10
seth_khttp://ubuntuforums.org07:10
seth_klook at the Hoary How-Tos07:10
twidgetseth_k: thanks07:10
seth_knot a problem, I feel your pain07:10
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arcanistherogueman kde owns07:11
arcanistherogueit looks so nice07:11
seth_kyou know it07:11
arcanistheroguei hated gnome07:11
arcanistheroguei never would use linux, now i only switch to play games07:11
seth_kI use whatever tool is appropriate for the task07:12
arcanistheroguehey i have a question though07:12
Church_of_foamygodsmoke can you eve read what i'm saying or did you block me?07:12
arcanistheroguei have an nvidia 6600 , a pretty good card07:12
seth_kso I switch for page layout stuff in InDesign, for games, for a stats program07:12
Church_of_foamythe same for seth_k07:12
seth_kmmm, indeed. gimmie07:12
seth_kTi 4200 here :P07:12
arcanistheroguebut when i use those screensavers07:13
seth_ks/4200/440007:13
seth_kthe GL ones?07:13
arcanistherogueit lags 07:13
arcanistherogueyeah07:13
seth_kyeah07:13
arcanistheroguehorribly07:13
arcanistheroguebut i can run HL2 at high settings07:13
seth_kwith cedega?07:13
seth_kor in windows07:13
arcanistheroguewindows07:13
seth_kok, phew07:13
kalenedraelshitty drivers07:13
seth_kpost a glxgears output for me07:13
arcanistherogue<_<07:13
arcanistheroguehow do i do that?07:13
seth_kjust type glxgears in a terminal07:14
seth_k:)07:14
seth_kand let it run a bit07:14
arcanistherogueoh ok07:14
seth_kit'll output rates07:14
kalenedraelglxgears, then copy the FPS over :P07:14
kalenedraelyes07:14
Church_of_foamycrimsun you there?07:14
twidgetI do a lot of web development (XHTML, CSS, etc.) using WordPress. On the Windows side, I used Dreamweaver. What do you folks prefer to use?07:14
arcanistheroguewait that didnt work07:14
arcanistheroguemaybe i need to install it07:14
Church_of_foamyi need to talk to someone to see if i'm wrong07:14
seth_kQuanta+07:14
Church_of_foamyand if i am i can accept that07:14
seth_kit's very much like DreamWeaver07:14
arcanistheroguewhat does that do?07:15
Church_of_foamywhats dreamweaver?07:15
arcanistherogueits a WYSIWYG editor07:15
arcanistheroguei dont like it.07:15
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Church_of_foamythats for html pages?07:15
arcanistherogueafk07:15
twidgetyes, and PHP07:15
Church_of_foamyoh nice07:15
twidgetI really only used it for the code hints07:16
Church_of_foamyi have an html learning program on cd but i think it's too old07:16
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Church_of_foamyi bought it at the savation army07:16
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Church_of_foamysalvation even07:16
twidget you know... I'd start a tag and it would suggest what came next07:16
seth_kQuanta+ is definitely what you want, especially since you're already using KDE07:16
Church_of_foamyit's kinda nice but i think it's old07:16
seth_karcanis, glxgears didn't work?07:17
twidgetfor some reason, the arts package isn't upgrading07:18
Church_of_foamyseth_k and godsmoke i don't know if you can read this but i apologize for any disrespect that i may have caused you and i meant no harm by what i have said..i am genually sorry and value your help abouve me being right07:19
Church_of_foamywhich is less important then me learning from you linux07:19
Church_of_foamyif i made you angry then again you have my humblest most sencerest apologys07:20
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aseigothere's also nvu if quanta isn't your thang07:21
seth_koh dear07:21
aseigonot that i've tried nvu. just seen it =) quanta or plain ol' kwrite is all i need =)07:21
seth_kspare me from the wrath of mozilla-composer-slapped-into-another-shape07:21
aseigohahaahaha07:21
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seth_knvu isn't bad, but quanta makes it look sick :D07:22
twidgetJeez, it's 12:3007:22
seth_k12:2207:22
seth_kI still need to blog07:23
twidgetI've got to go back to work tomorrow morning ::groan::07:23
twidgetwhat's your blog?07:23
seth_khttp://sethkinast.com/blog/07:23
seth_kI just got back from vacation07:23
seth_kin el Mexico07:23
twidgetmine is http://charlesstricklin.com07:23
seth_kand brought Montezuma and his Revenge back with me :D07:23
twidgetI just got back from vacation last week also, and I also got viral gastrowhateveritisis...07:24
twidgetThey had to pump a full IV bag into me07:24
arcanistherogueive been here all week07:24
arcanistherogueand last week07:24
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arcanistherogue;_;07:24
seth_khehe07:25
arcanistheroguemmm but i have a cheese sandwich07:25
seth_karcanis, see if nvidia-glx is installed07:25
seth_kit's the nvidia drivers07:25
arcanistheroguewhich nvidia-glx07:26
arcanistherogueright?07:26
arcanistherogueor not07:26
arcanistherogue<_<07:26
twidgetOkay... beddy-bye time07:26
seth_knight night07:26
twidgetthanks for the pointers07:26
seth_kum, there should just be a package called "nvidia-glx"07:26
arcanistherogueoh07:26
arcanistherogueok07:26
arcanistherogueunder what section?07:27
arcanistheroguein kynaptic07:29
seth_kno idea, I just search07:29
seth_kCTRL + F07:29
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arcanistherogueno,its not installed07:29
arcanistheroguelemme do that now07:29
seth_kMiscellaneous - Graphical (restricted)07:29
seth_kboom, that'll do ya07:29
arcanistheroguethanks alot for all yuor help07:30
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arcanistherogueyour alot more helpful then my elitist linux friend07:30
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arcanistheroguehe just laughs at all my problems ;_;07:30
seth_khehe07:30
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seth_kthat's what the spirit of Ubuntu is all about07:30
seth_khelping people07:30
arcanistherogueword07:31
seth_kI try to spend 10 hours a week on IRC and in the forums07:31
seth_kit's cool, really... I've had all these same problems, and people helped me then07:31
arcanistherogueheh07:31
arcanistheroguethats nifty07:31
seth_know, when others have the problems, I can return the favor07:31
seth_k:)07:31
arcanistherogueyou know what?07:31
arcanistheroguepizza goldfish taste nothing like pizza.07:32
seth_kLOL07:32
seth_kdeep thoughts, with arcanistherogue07:32
arcanistherogueyup.07:32
unomeseth_k: for how long you've been using *nix?07:32
seth_kunome, about 3 years07:32
arcanistherogue2 months for me07:32
arcanistherogueerr actually now its about 307:33
seth_kunome, as my primary OS only since the middle of '04 though07:33
arcanistheroguei use windows XP pro07:33
seth_kI'm sorry07:33
arcanistheroguebut thats just because i use PS and gmae alot07:33
seth_k:P nah, I do too07:33
unomeI used linux like 3 years ago mainly RH and mandrake, about a month ago I discovered Ubuntu and never looked back .. 07:33
arcanistheroguei use linux for programming though07:34
unomeI'm doing some extensive reading trying to catch up07:34
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arcanistheroguefalsely advertised goldfish :\07:35
seth_kvery deep, aseigo. but how do you know that you exist?07:35
seth_k:D07:35
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aseigoseth_k: i realize that i don't know for certain, which probably means i do.07:35
aseigo(exist that is)07:36
arcanistheroguewell i dont know you exist.07:36
seth_khehe07:36
aseigoarcanistherogue: fortunately you're not particularly relevant to my existence ;)07:36
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unomeyour existence is only defined by your perception then?07:37
arcanistherogue:(07:37
seth_kthe hive mind O_O07:37
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seth_khmm, definitely #kubuntu07:37
aseigounome: no, the probability of my existence is heightened by the virtue of my having perception07:37
arcanistheroguedangnabit i dont have my ubuntu 5.04 disc...07:38
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arcanistheroguei cant wait for those discs i order to come07:38
seth_kme too07:38
seth_ki got 1507:38
seth_ki think they're all already spoken for07:38
arcanistheroguei bet ill get em way after breezy is outdated >_>07:38
seth_k:/07:38
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monchywell you'll probably get them by the time breezy launches07:39
arcanistheroguei ordered...10 for i386, 10 for 64 bit, 2 mac ones07:39
seth_kheh07:39
unomecan't you just burn'em?07:40
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monchythat's all i do, just get RW's for the distros i use07:41
arcanistheroguethat would be too convinient07:41
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monchyyea its nice that media is so cheap now days07:42
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unomeno kidding and this is ridata 48x07:43
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unomeyeah you should start visiting places like hardforum.com where peeps talk about nothing but the egg deals hehe 07:44
seth_ksleepy time here, night all07:45
unomenite seth_k 07:45
monchynight07:45
arcanistheroguek07:45
arcanistheroguecya later seth07:45
seth_karcanis, hit me up later if nvidia-glx doesn't work magic :P07:45
arcanistherogueheh07:45
unomewhat card are you using anyway07:46
arcanistherogue660007:46
unomeGT OC?07:46
arcanistheroguena07:47
arcanistheroguejust regular07:47
unomeI got the same card, from BFG07:48
arcanistheroguehmm07:48
arcanistheroguei have one form A-Open07:48
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arcanistherogueO_O07:49
unomePCI?07:49
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godsmokepci-e, you mean?07:49
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unomeyeah they come PCI Expres anyway07:49
godsmokethere is no pci version07:50
arcanistheroguedo they have em in agp 8x?07:50
godsmokepci-e is not even close to the same as pci07:50
unomeI I dont think so07:50
arcanistherogueoh no ;07:50
arcanistherogue*;_;07:50
arcanistheroguewell i guess ill just get a 680007:50
godsmokearcanistherogue: no07:50
godsmokewaste of money07:50
arcanistheroguewhy?07:50
godsmokebecause it's not much less than a 7800 -- and it's quite a bit slower07:51
godsmokebuying a 6800 is a sucker buy at this point07:51
arcanistheroguehmm07:51
unomegodsmoke: your card is like $600, are you a hardcore gamer or something07:51
godsmokeunome: actually, the system that it's in has two of them -- 3d work07:51
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arcanistherogueO_O07:52
arcanistherogueoh dear god07:52
arcanistherogueits so bueatiful07:53
arcanistheroguewell, i think im gonna go to sleep now guys07:53
arcanistheroguegood night.07:53
unomenite07:53
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godsmokebrowsers are such a pain these day07:54
godsmokedays*07:54
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unomewhy?07:54
godsmokeheh07:54
godsmokewell, none of the browser options are wonderful07:55
godsmokeand that's a problem07:55
godsmokeeach has serious drawbacks07:55
unomeff has extentions, opera isnt bad ..07:55
godsmokefirefox is gtk07:56
godsmokeopera is mess07:56
godsmokeopera barely even loads half of the important plugins07:56
unomehehe07:56
godsmokenot to mention it's not free07:56
godsmokekonqueror can't open 20% of popular websites properly07:56
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unomenah forget about konqueror, I never use it07:57
godsmokeoh -- it would be fine if they could build some IE emulation into it07:57
godsmokesupport all the non-standard and crap tags07:57
unomeI betcha lynx open all pages eh07:57
godsmokeI would far prefer konqueror over the other options if they could get that down07:57
godsmokehey -- I don't blame them for not making it a priority -- I wouldn't want to write the IE-specific code either07:58
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unomethe web should be taken back, it's not the browses it's the coding. IE has what, like 90%07:59
godsmokehuh?07:59
godsmokewell, that statistic includes every random user who has windows 98 ... I mean, it's worthless08:00
godsmokewho cares about normal people08:00
unomehehe08:00
godsmokeobviously, most people use IE08:00
godsmokebut that's not my concern08:00
godsmokeif IE could stick to some standards -- we wouldn't have problems08:00
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aseigowhat 80% of popular websites doesn't konqueror work on exactly?08:03
aseigowe, 20%, soryr08:04
godsmokeuh ...08:04
godsmokewhat 20%?08:04
godsmoke20% -- it's an approximation08:04
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aseigoyes.. what 20% .. e.g. which popular websites does it have issues with?08:04
godsmokeI don't remember off-hand -- I tried Konq for about a day08:04
godsmokeand couldn't work08:04
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godsmokenone of my banks work with it08:04
godsmokegmail refuses to do much with it08:04
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godsmokemany of my travel companies08:05
godsmokeas well as financial websites08:05
aseigogmail actually sends a special page these days to konq08:05
aseigodid you try switching UA on any of those sites? that's often all it takes.08:05
godsmokeyes, I had it set on IE08:05
aseigonot always, but often.08:05
godsmokethis was not a "we do not support your browser" problem08:05
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godsmokethis was a -- some links don't work, some graphics don't show up -- text cut off08:05
godsmokeso forth08:05
godsmokeie specific tag nonsense08:06
aseigowell, no. many broken websites execute different js based on the browser UA.. nothing to do with supported or not08:06
godsmokeanyway -- I had it set to IE08:06
aseigoand did you try a Moz UA?08:06
godsmokeno08:06
aseigoout of curiosity, which version of kde were you using, btw? 08:07
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godsmokeanyway -- there were plenty of troubles -- I doubt they can all be attributed to ua-specific js08:07
aseigodoubt is a funny thing. =)08:07
godsmoke3.4.108:07
aseigowhich travel sites? just so i can go test and see what the problem might be?08:07
godsmokeI don't remember which specifically08:08
godsmokeI believe Travelocity was one -- it wasn't entire sites -- it was specific buttons, or features I couldn't get to08:08
godsmokethere's a Mozilla UA by default08:09
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godsmokeso that obviously didn't fix anything08:09
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unomeaseigo: btw, how do I get java to work with Konqueror?08:10
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aseigounome: install a java vm and make sure the java binary is pointed to in the Java config page in konqi08:11
godsmokecrap, 2:30am already08:11
godsmokewell, close08:12
aseigogodsmoke: now, it's completely possible that you did run into a number of problems. i'm not trying to discount your experience, but it is nice to know what the problems are08:12
godsmokewell, I didn't have hours to wade through pages of js crap to find out exactly what functions weren't working and preventing buttons and suich08:12
aseigo.. and it does occur from time to time that supposed problems with konqi turn out to be not such big problems upon investigation others08:12
aseigouh huh08:12
godsmokecitibank just flat out didn't work08:13
godsmokeplugger looks good, actually08:14
godsmokefor use with opera08:14
aseigohrm. that's a hard one to test w/out ana n ccouttheer. =)08:14
godsmokethey recommend it08:14
aseigoer, an account there08:14
unomeI have it installed, just had to point it, thx.08:14
aseigothe actual website up to loging in (various menus and what not) work however08:14
aseigounome: np08:15
godsmokeright -- but the login systems for those banking websites are always very complex 10-deep redirects and such08:15
godsmokeit's quite messy08:15
godsmokecommerce bank worked, I remember that08:15
godsmokeI don't know if chase did08:15
mrmanicbank of america works.08:15
unomehttps://www.householdaccount.com:443/gm/CustomerCare?chkCk=check08:16
unomesee if it works for you08:16
godsmokeon what browser?08:17
unomekonqi08:17
godsmokeit doesn't work on anything08:17
aseigogodsmoke: i've found some issues reported with kde 3.1 and citibank (unconfirmed though) but otherwise a fair number of "success!" reports08:17
godsmokeuniq: tested it on IE, Opera, Firefox08:17
godsmokeall complained about not accepting cookies08:18
godsmokewhich is certainly wrong08:18
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godsmokebbiab08:19
unomego to sears.com and click on sears credit (left side) on konqi, the page never loads.08:19
SpecialBuddywhere is device manager08:20
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unomekcontrol I think08:20
SpecialBuddyok08:20
mrmanicSpecialBuddy: what are you trying to do?  08:21
SpecialBuddywant to see my hardware08:21
unomewhat hardware?08:21
unomelshw should tell you about your hardware08:22
SpecialBuddyeverything 08:22
unomesudo lshw08:22
aseigounome: it loads just fine here08:22
unomeaseigo: weird08:22
aseigonot the fastest site in the world (what with it's multiple redirects to finally land on an ssl site) but it renders perfectly08:23
SpecialBuddydo you usually have to install drivers for video cards after you install kubuntu08:23
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aseigoSpecialBuddy: not in my experience..08:24
mrmanicunome: it loads ok here too, if a little slowly08:24
aseigoSpecialBuddy: if you want the close source nvidia drivers, for instance, you will have to though08:24
unomemy konqi must be messed up then :(08:24
SpecialBuddybecause I keep getting a wine error and I think it's because I need the drivers for my video card08:25
unomeATI or nVidia?08:26
SpecialBuddyATI08:26
unomeis it listed when you do lspci?08:26
aseigoSpecialBuddy: what's the error?08:26
mrmanicfglrx has a long way to go.08:26
unomeno doubt08:26
aseigounome: i'd suggest starting w/the error =) somehow i find it doubtful that a wine error resolves to an x window driver problem ;)08:27
SpecialBuddyDIrect Draw Error08:27
aseigoyeah, that has nothing to do with your video driver08:27
aseigoand everything to do with the version of wine you installed08:27
unomeaseigo: right on.08:27
aseigounome: spend a few years on a project's bugzilla and you get pretty good at this ;)08:28
aseigoanyways. time for bed.08:28
mrmanicSpecialBuddy: wine doesn't include directx, IIRC.  winex and transgaming wine do, I believe.08:28
SpecialBuddywell I'm just trying to play starcraft08:28
SpecialBuddyso I need to get directX08:28
mrmanicSpecialBuddy: no, you need to get winex or transgaming wine, I think.08:29
SpecialBuddythat costs money right08:29
mrmanictransgaming does.08:29
mrmanicactually08:29
unomewhat is it like mrmanic, $5/month or something like that?08:29
mrmanicI seem to remember running starcraft in a window before.08:29
mrmanicyeah, I believe it's $5 a month08:29
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SpecialBuddyhow do you run it in a window08:30
SpecialBuddybecause it keeps saying that I don't have the right color settings and the right resolution08:31
mrmanicSpecialBuddy: http://koti.mbnet.fi/~hoppq/sc-howto.html08:31
mrmanicSpecialBuddy: that was the first google result.08:32
unomehey what's the path to ff profiles?08:32
mrmanicunome: it changes.08:32
SpecialBuddyI tried this earlier but didn't really get it08:33
mrmanicunome: ~/.mozilla/firefox/08:33
unomethx08:34
mrmanicSpecialBuddy: you won't be able to play online, according to the howto08:34
SpecialBuddyreally?08:34
mrmanicBattle.net is known not to work well with Wine, and modem/direct connect probably don't work either.08:34
SpecialBuddywell I can't get it to work anyway08:35
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mrmanicI think your best bet is actually a wine channel rather than this one08:36
SpecialBuddyok08:36
SpecialBuddythanks08:36
SpecialBuddyno one is in the wine channel08:37
mrmanicbtw, I'm pretty sure my belief about wine vs winex is wrong08:37
mrmanic:\08:37
mrmanicSpecialBuddy: try #winehq08:38
mrmaniceh?08:38
mrmanicwtf?08:38
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_corywhats up guys08:44
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Borg^QueenHey people. Anyone here running an Athlon 2000 xp?09:26
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Chameleon22hello all10:23
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Firetechwhoops.11:40
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Firetechthat wasn't  really my intention, if it happened to more people than me...11:41
FiretechI.E. cleared the topic...11:41
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nikkiaFiretech: yes, it did11:42
FiretechI'm sorry, I thought /topic would show me the topic...11:42
FiretechWhy don't you have +t11:43
hairyhobbitFiretech, no problem11:44
hairyhobbitFiretech, I don't know, it's not my channel.11:44
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Firetechyay, now I have a "show me the topic" alias (/t)...11:48
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nikkiamorning Brydenn[WU] 11:52
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nikkiaoh christ...11:55
nikkiauniq, are you around ???11:55
nikkiaah, nm11:57
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yarpenhi12:54
yarpenare who's from poland here??12:55
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malte:D01:02
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DocTomoeExcuse me ... where exactly do I find the Ubuntu Sparkle wallpaper used by Gnome in Breezy? I'd love to have this in KDE, but I cannot find the file...01:41
nikkiaubuntu-artwork ?01:44
nikkiathat'd be my guess anyway01:44
DocTomoeWell, yeah. But that is an package name, not a place in the directory structure. Where does ubuntu-artwork live when installed?01:45
nikkiaall over the place :P01:45
nikkiause apt-file to list the contents of a package01:45
maltecheck with dpkg -L ubuntu-artwork01:45
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nikkiathis is probably what you're looking for tho:01:46
nikkiaubuntu-artwork: usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-sparkles.png01:46
DocTomoejupp, that is the gnome splash screen ... but not the wallpaper ;)01:46
nikkiathen its obviously called something without 'sparkles' in the name, without knowing the filename, its rather hard to track it down01:47
nikkiaor rather, 'without 'spark' in the filename'01:47
nikkiaits likely in /usr/share/wallpapers tho01:48
DocTomoewell, there *is* some directory "/usr/share/backgrounds" (why didn't this one occur to me earlier?)01:48
DocTomoegotcha ;) 01:49
DocTomoet'is in /usr/share/backgrounds01:49
nikkiaahh, that bg, was never a fan of having THAT much brown on my screen anyway :)01:50
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asproGrrr02:20
asprothe ubuntu gods are set against me02:20
Poromieswhy so?02:25
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dreumahhigh02:30
dreumahmy amarok isnt playing my mp3s02:31
dreumahanyhelp02:31
asproevery single time I try to install it on my powerbook, SOMETHING goes wrong02:35
asproluckily, the live cd works a charm02:35
dreumahamarok mp3s why isnt it playing?02:35
asprohmm, dunno?02:36
dreumahit says no engine02:36
dreumahwhich one should i download?02:36
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samuelkhow do i gett kernel-source file?03:26
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m-fox"sudo apt-get install linux-sources-2.6.10" for example03:44
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_pavelhello04:01
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truijllo#kubuntu chi d'ha fattu! sattiri a sattiri !04:30
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gerardoChe si dice ?05:12
truijlloin kubuntu ? boh ... la possibilita' di parlare italiano qua tutto sommato e' ristretta ;)05:13
gerardoAllora sono capitato nel posto sbagliato!!05:13
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truijllo;)05:15
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doctoryo06:16
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doctor_salviaweeeeeee06:17
seth_kmmm, we're all so coherent early in the morning06:19
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nikkiamorning? its 17:45!!06:44
nikkiaoh *(&*(!06:45
nikkiamy work PC only has 800MB of disk free06:45
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oshWhat's the command to find out what package contains the wx-config file? "apt-cache search" and then what? search only appears to find packages...07:12
godsmokeapt-cache holds a database of packages, not package contents07:14
godsmokehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/ is a good place to search package contents because it's always updated -- but if you wish to do those searches on your own computer, you need apt-file07:15
oshgodsmoke: found apt-file but it didn't help much. will have a look at packages.ubuntu.com thanks.07:16
godsmokeit does EXACTLY what you asked about07:16
godsmokeI use it every day07:16
oshgodsmoke: I stand corrected. It did what I asked. =)07:18
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oshWeird thing is though. I do have the manfile for wx-config but not the command itself. :-/07:18
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mcquaidis khotkeys totally borked?07:20
nikkiamcquaid: probably07:26
nikkiait was last time i tried it, about 3 years ago07:26
nikkiaand development of it seemed to be dead then.... so i don't imagine its improved much07:27
mcquaidany other way of getting gestures in konq?07:28
mcquaidmouse that is07:28
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EiGHTBALLxif i install kubuntu using apt-get will i still be able to access gnome (like via gnome-seesion)?07:32
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_m0ns00nYrds07:35
_m0ns00nYes07:35
_m0ns00nOf course07:36
EiGHTBALLxand also can i still use gnome apps?07:36
_m0ns00nAlso, you can get kubuntu through ubuntu etc.07:36
_m0ns00nJust add the sources.07:36
_m0ns00nOf course.07:36
EiGHTBALLxgreat07:36
_m0ns00nIt's all available in universe/multiverse07:36
EiGHTBALLxthanx for your gelp07:36
_m0ns00nJust add those sources.07:36
_m0ns00nNo problem07:36
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EiGHTBALLxso the command is :  sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop   i have all repositories in my sources.list07:37
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yahalomhow can i find out my gateway ip?07:38
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EiGHTBALLxsudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop  brings this error!07:40
EiGHTBALLxSome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have07:40
EiGHTBALLxrequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable07:40
EiGHTBALLxdistribution that some required packages have not yet been created07:40
EiGHTBALLxor been moved out of Incoming.07:40
EiGHTBALLxSince you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that07:40
EiGHTBALLxthe package is simply not installable and a bug report against07:40
EiGHTBALLxthat package should be filed.07:40
EiGHTBALLxThe following information may help to resolve the situation:07:40
EiGHTBALLxThe following packages have unmet dependencies:07:40
EiGHTBALLx  kubuntu-desktop: Depends: konversation but it is not going to be installed07:40
EiGHTBALLxE: Broken packages07:40
EiGHTBALLx(SORRY FOR THE FLOOD)07:40
yahalomsee topic07:41
EiGHTBALLxermm how is the topic supposed to help?07:41
EiGHTBALLxis it the link?07:41
yahalomu need a different repo07:42
yahalomsee the topic07:42
yahalomgo there,,its obvious once there07:42
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EiGHTBALLxi dont see the extra repos07:44
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mcquaidEiGHTBALLx, the reason thats happening is becuase konversation for whatever reason depends on kde 3.4.107:49
mcquaidyou can do one of two things, either add the source for kubuntu 3.4.1 to your reps and upgrade to 3.4.107:49
mcquaidor you can choose force version in synaptic and choose konversation ver .1607:50
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eightballxthank you07:50
mcquaiddeb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main07:50
mcquaidadd that for 3.4.1 if u want07:50
mcquaidi've already gone with 3.4.1 without issue07:50
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eightballxyeh thanx i got that07:51
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mcquaidi've read khotkeys has been borked for ages. is there no other method of getting gestures in konq?07:53
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EiGHTBALLxmy sources.list wont work, it gives me   some index files faailed to download when i add a source07:57
mcquaidclick reload first07:58
EiGHTBALLxreload?07:58
mcquaidyou have to reload upon changes to sources.list07:58
mcquaidyou using synatpic?07:58
EiGHTBALLxno when i run apt-get update it gives me that error07:58
mcquaidah ok then you've mucked up your sources ;)07:59
mcquaiddid you ensure to hit enter on the last entry?07:59
mcquaidyou have to have a carriage return or for some dumb reason it doesn't read them properly07:59
EiGHTBALLxdoes it matter on the location in the file (eg a certain line08:00
mcquaidnope08:00
mcquaidi just assumed you might have put it at the bottom and forgot to put an enter08:00
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EiGHTBALLxoh thanks it worked!08:00
mcquaidthere ya go08:00
mcquaidyou can add sources from within synaptic as well and just hit reload - reload being the same as apt-get update08:01
EiGHTBALLxthanks for your help! its finnaly installing,08:01
mcquaidi like to manually add sources so i can put comments though08:01
mcquaidnp08:01
EiGHTBALLxwhen i reboot, will it boot KDE by default?08:01
mcquaidyou have to indicate the default in kdm/gdm08:01
mcquaidare you using gdm?08:02
mcquaidyou indicate by choosing session and then selecting08:02
EiGHTBALLxgnome wm i am yes, will it ask me which wm to use at the beggining?08:02
mcquaidright now your in gnome?08:02
EiGHTBALLxoh kick as08:02
EiGHTBALLxyep im im in gnome using Xchat08:03
mcquaidif you just log in you'll be in gnome again, choose session and choose kde, it'll ask you just for this session or make default08:03
mcquaidbut since going to kde i've installed kdm instead08:03
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mcquaidwith kdm you'll get options like 'fast user switch' and you'll have fast user switch' when locking the screen08:04
mcquaidgnome has a fast user switch as well, but it doesn't have it intergrated in the lcok screen thing so i like kde's better08:05
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ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone here know about fstab?/08:06
mcquaidand you don't need to reboot btw, just logout and choose kde instead08:06
EiGHTBALLxi want kde so i can 1) get the kde apps 2) skin it to look like OSX08:06
mcquaidwell you could have installed kde apps without actually installing kde08:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYi need to know if these settings in fstab are correct08:06
mcquaidbut theming is easier with having all of kde installed08:06
ChurcH_of_FoamY/dev/hdb1       /Storage        ext3   rw,user,noauto       0    008:07
EiGHTBALLxyeh but there is trouble like fonts and stuff08:07
mcquaidyes thats much easier to configure from within kde08:07
_skaagI have a weird problem with kMail not sending queued mail through an SMTP server I know works for sure08:09
mcquaidChurcH_of_FoamY, it looks right but i'm not the greatest with fstab08:09
EiGHTBALLxi am getting gd speeds off the repos, 235k08:09
mcquaidya same here, they were slow for a bit, but they've been fast for awhile08:09
mcquaidbut i couldnt imagine a modem user using debian08:10
mcquaid;)08:10
EiGHTBALLxi just selected KDM , was it the right choice?08:10
samuelki installed the kxdocker 0.35 but i when i right click on the bar i dont see the configurator.. so i configure kxdocker any one who could help me?08:11
mcquaiduh are you trying to install kdm now?08:11
EiGHTBALLxif i want the complete KDE experience08:11
EiGHTBALLxyes08:11
EiGHTBALLxkubuntu-desktop08:11
mcquaidwell, i believe you can do it without issue but i don't really like to switch gdm to kdm while in the gui08:12
EiGHTBALLxit all 1 big package08:12
EiGHTBALLxi rebootwen i switch WM08:12
mcquaidwell kubuntu-desktop is whats called a meta package that installs a whole wack of other apps/libs etc08:12
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EiGHTBALLxanyway, if i want the entire kde experience , was kdm the right choice?08:13
mcquaidit in itself doesn't actually contain any packages08:13
EiGHTBALLxi know its like a symlink08:13
mcquaidthe point i'm trying to make on going to kdm from gdm is that if you remove gdm while in synaptic it's still running 08:14
mcquaidi'm not sure if it can do that gracefully08:14
EiGHTBALLxit just did!08:14
EiGHTBALLxbrb reboot08:14
mcquaidheh08:15
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mcquaidsamuelk, i haven't tried kxdocer yet, is it fast or a resource hog?08:15
mcquaidlike does it seem smooth in it's resizing as you hover over your icons?08:16
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samuelkmcguaid its realy nice you should realy try it :D08:20
samuelkyes it do..08:20
EiGHTBALLxkomplete succes08:21
mcquaidya i'm probably going to 08:21
mcquaiddid you compile or grab the ubuntu deb?08:21
mcquaidEiGHTBALLx, did kdm comeup or gdm?08:21
samuelkmcquaid install now and say if you have the configurating menu08:21
samuelkhttp://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kxdocker/main.php08:21
EiGHTBALLxi got GDM NOT STARTING  AS ITS NOT THE DEFAULT MANAGER : STARTING K DISPLAY MANAGER : KDM08:22
samuelktook the deb file08:22
samuelkw808:22
EiGHTBALLxand kde came up08:22
samuelkinstalled from 0.35 source08:22
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mcquaidah ok your good then, you can remove gdm so you don't see that error in the future08:22
EiGHTBALLxand then i logged into gdm to see if it was still there, it is and now i am in kde08:22
EiGHTBALLxits not an error , its desplayed like a kernel message08:23
EiGHTBALLxit doesnt bug me08:23
mcquaidi hear ya, but you only need one or the other08:24
mcquaidas both can't run 08:24
samuelkyes i know..08:24
samuelkjust installed the 0.35 from source08:24
EiGHTBALLxmeh i might need gdm in case kde doesnt run a gnome app properly08:25
mcquaidno it doesn't work that way, you can still launch gnome with kdm08:26
mcquaidand vis versa08:26
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EiGHTBALLxsu is not excepting my root password, what is it as default?08:28
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mcquaidin ubuntu there is no root passwd by default08:29
mcquaidyou have to create one08:29
Firetechuhm, the newest unsermake package seems to be corrupt...08:30
mcquaidi forget the exact syntax, but it's all over the forums as it's been asked countless times08:30
mcquaidsamuelk, i'm compiling now08:30
Firetechhttp://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main unsermake 20050618-0ubuntu1 [2547B] 08:30
samuelkgood good :D08:31
mcquaidwhasts unsermake?08:31
Firetechhttp://se.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main unsermake 20050219-0ubuntu2 [55,5kB] 08:31
Firetechunsermake - A tool for generating Makefiles, a replacement for automake08:31
mcquaidah08:32
samuelkare there dashbord for linux?08:33
mcquaiddashboard is that osX desktop search thingie?08:34
mcquaidif so there's beagle but its a gnome app08:35
buzno thats spotlight08:35
mcquaidoh08:35
buzdashboard is more like useless eyecandy08:35
mcquaidwhats dashboard again?08:35
buzthe thing with them widgets08:35
buzoverlays your current screen08:35
samuelkapple.com08:35
buzdoing all sorts of half useful stuff08:35
buzmaybe superkaramba08:35
mcquaidoh does it show all running apps like screenshots of everything runnin?08:36
buzna thats expose08:36
mcquaidheh08:36
buzwhich is actually really nifty08:36
buzdashboard i dont care for very much08:36
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mcquaidi'll look up dashboard later but kde has kompose for expose08:39
mcquaidsamuelk, ok i have kxdocker running08:39
samuelkright click on it do you have configuratar or something?08:40
mcquaidif i right clikc on any one of them to configure i can't if thats your problem08:40
samuelkk08:40
samuelkyes it was mine to..08:40
samuelkbut the other versions there where options you could do in the program...08:41
mcquaidwell i've got actions, global actions etc08:42
samuelki have only make float and remove08:43
samuelkthere should be on more i think...08:43
mcquaidwhere do you see that?08:43
samuelkright click08:43
samuelkand under configure08:44
mcquaidah ya not all have that i see some with that08:44
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mcquaidi don't get how you add an app though08:44
samuelknot me ether..08:44
samuelkthats what i whant...08:44
doctor_salviabwaaahaha err i mean hey08:45
mcquaidfount it08:46
samuelkwhere?08:46
mcquaidsamuelk, it's in the kde tray08:46
mcquaidshould see a penguin apple near the clock08:46
samuelkbhhaaa i am so a dumbass...08:46
mcquaidheh08:46
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doctor_salviabwaaahahaha i will traceroute you then find your house and drink your blood in the night08:47
doctor_salviaerr08:47
doctor_salviai mean08:47
mcquaida baloon with a hole in it! 08:47
doctor_salviaso...08:47
mcquaidbtw, how did you compile it? i used checkinstall and it put it in usr/local/kde/bin08:48
mcquaidwhich isn't in my path08:48
mcquaidhad to go to that dir to run in08:48
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samuelkin think i gott kxdocker to crash....08:52
samuelkloaded a plugin...08:52
samuelklol08:52
mcquaidi still don't get how to add an app08:53
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Borg^QueenHey people. I need some advice. My dvdburner just blew out. I need to replace it yesterday.08:56
Borg^QueenMy brand, plextor, is sold out. None of my vendors have it in stock. What dvd burners do you guys have that have given you good results?08:56
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ChurcH_of_FoamYcan someone help me with my hard drive problem?09:11
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honusing gimp or simmilar multi-window applications, is it possible to make them minimize together (some kind of groupping)?09:14
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othernoobdoes anyone know an RTS-channel on irc?09:17
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_chrisIs there a program out there that can monitor my power supply?09:26
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nikkiahon, yes, sort of, but unfortunately, its rather annoying how its implemented in KDE10:03
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nikkiahon, you can only treat all windows of an app as a single object for things like that *once the number of windows open has exceeded your taskbar limits* isn't that annoying?10:03
honhow?10:03
honoh! not that way10:04
nikkiawhat you, and i, want is a way to force grouping10:05
nikkiai haven't been able to find one, tho10:05
honI need it just for specific types of windows. 10:05
nikkiaah, actually, you can force group10:06
honI wish if this feature could be added to the "workarounds" for window settings10:06
honbrb10:06
nikkiahon, just turn the grouping feature to 'always', its a pain, but its better than nothing10:06
nikkiabut yes, it'd be nice to have a per-application-class setting10:06
nikkiaand while we're at it, i'll take 'named groups' thanks :)10:07
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi need help with the formating and usage of a hard drive thats giving me problems10:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYcan anyone help me?10:22
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MidnightDevilheya, how do i fix this ? "Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have11:25
MidnightDevilrequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable11:25
MidnightDevildistribution that some required packages have not yet been created11:25
MidnightDevilor been moved out of Incoming."11:25
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MidnightDevilsomeone?11:26
ChurcH_of_FoamY91 people here and no one can help >.<11:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYi wish i could but i'm still learning linux myself >.<11:27
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MidnightDevil:)11:27
MidnightDevilhehe, i wish too11:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm still having partitioning problems and noone can seem to help me11:28
MidnightDevilwhats the problem?11:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYi put a second hard drive in11:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYand used qtparted to set it up11:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYand made the changes in fstab11:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut the drive denies me access to it when i try to wright to it11:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i can't figure it out >.<11:29
MidnightDevili guess u can write whatever u want on that drive if u "su - vim bla.txt" and save it11:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut i want to use it has a regular hard drive11:30
MidnightDevili dont think its very hard11:30
MidnightDevilits a permissions thing11:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhere i can just drop files on it11:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYmust be11:31
MidnightDevili cant write on any remote drive mounted by root11:31
MidnightDevili guess it's just having the same behaviour11:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYmust be11:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYjust don't know how to fix it?11:32
uniqmidnightdevil: what package do you try to install? 11:32
MidnightDevilneither :/11:33
MidnightDeviluniq, gdesklets11:33
uniqshould be installable. you have universe enabled i presume? 11:33
MidnightDevili guess 11:34
MidnightDevilsources.list?11:34
uniqchurch_of_foamy: if you make a directory on the disk, and "chown youruser.youruser dir/" you can write to it.11:34
uniqyes, sources.list11:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYok but how do i make a dir on the disk11:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's hdb111:35
uniqis it mounted? 11:35
MidnightDevilsudo mkdir dir11:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes11:35
uniqok, then do as midnightdevil says.11:35
MidnightDevilallright, what should i look for on sources.list?11:36
uniqmidnightdevil: universe11:36
MidnightDevilyeapo11:36
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<11:36
uniqis it uncommented or active? 11:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe drive?11:36
MidnightDeviluncommended, i mean, it doesnt have the # before11:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYactive11:37
MidnightDevillol11:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYi don't know11:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just use konq to get to it11:37
MidnightDeviluniq, he installed a new hd now he wants to add permissions to browse and write there freely11:38
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ChurcH_of_FoamYthis is kinda hard for a noob >.<11:38
uniqmidnightdevil: ok. it's active and uncommented :) then 'apt-get update;apt-get install gdesklets' should do it for you. you shouldn't get an impossible situation afaik.11:38
uniqmidnightdevil: i know, i read back. :)11:38
uniqchurch_of_foamy: ok, can you paste the line you've added in /etc/fstab? 11:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYshure11:39
MidnightDevilThe following packages have unmet dependencies:11:39
MidnightDevil  gdesklets: Depends: python-gnome2-extras but it is not going to be installed11:39
MidnightDevilE: Broken packages11:39
MidnightDevilthis goes round and round 11:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYdev/hdb1       /storage        ext3   rw,user,noauto       0    011:39
uniqchurch_of_foamy: ok, why is it noauto ? 11:40
uniqis it removable? 11:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYi don't know11:40
uniqok. remove user and noauto11:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just looked at the rest and put what i thought made sence11:40
uniq.. even better, remove all the smart options, and add defaults11:40
uniq /dev/hdb1 /storage ext3 defaults 0 011:41
uniqsudo mount /storage11:41
uniqsudo mkdir /storage/stuff11:41
uniqsudo chown yourusername.yourusername -R /storage/stuff11:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYk hold on11:42
uniqthen you should be able to save your files to /storage/stuff11:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYnow it tells me that only root can mount the hard drive11:44
uniqonly root can.11:45
uniqthat's why you should do: sudo mount /storage11:45
uniqbut it will be automatically mounted on each boot. so it won't matter.. unless it's removable.11:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYmountpoint storage does not exist11:46
uniqmidnightdevil: python-gnome3-extras should be in universe too. you could try to use another mirror.11:47
uniqehm.. python-gnome2-extras rather. 11:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYno it's not a removible drive11:47
MidnightDeviluniq, wanna share your file ? :D11:47
MidnightDevili extracted this sample for the website11:47
uniqchurch_of_foamy: then removing 'noauto' from fstab will make it mount at boot.11:47
uniq?? sources.list11:47
kinfo[sources.list]  example /etc/apt/sources.list with all official repositories plus KDE 3.4.1 and Koffice 1.4 from kubuntu.org can be found at: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/30380211:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYok so just remove the noauto and leave it at that11:48
uniqchurch_of_foamy: i would have changed it to what i wrote earlier.11:48
MidnightDevilaye aye sir ;)11:48
uniq23:41 <      uniq>  /dev/hdb1 /storage ext3 defaults 0 011:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYok11:48
MidnightDeviluniq, can i replace my actual file with that content?11:49
uniqmidnightdevil: you can. i suggest you make a backup of your old file just in case something breaks.11:49
MidnightDevilgreat!11:49
MidnightDevilthanx!11:49
MidnightDevilChurcH_of_FoamY, hows it going pal !11:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYgood11:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm going to reboot now and see if it works11:50
MidnightDeviluniq, working as a charm with no dependencies problems11:53
MidnightDevilthanx a lot!!11:53
uniqmidnightdevil: great :)11:53
MidnightDevili got a package that seems to be stuck11:56
MidnightDevilsetiathome11:56
MidnightDevilE: setiathome:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 111:56
MidnightDevilreturns this error everytime im not installing it11:56
MidnightDevillol11:56
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ChurcH_of_FoamYthe drive diden't mount it's self >.<11:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYi even rebooted11:59
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