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[12:33] <dholbach> hi
[12:33] <dholbach> who put the Icons on REVU?
[12:33] <dholbach> it looks SO FANCY now :)
[12:36] <dholbach> i see, you don't want to talk to me :)
[12:39] <dholbach> ok... i'm off to bed now anyways... thanks to whoever did it :)
[12:40] <dholbach> and to anybody else, have a look at it and while you're there, do a review :)))
[12:40] <dholbach> *wave*
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[01:27] <Alexus> hi i have a beagle prob..  ( ERROR: System.InvalidOperationException: Invalid connection string: no URI) i think is mono-sqlite prob
[01:44] <Mez> ew.... beagle
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[01:47] <Lathiat> eww.... beagle basher
[01:47] <Mez> not beagle basher... I dont even know what it is... I just always hear people complainging about it
[01:47] <Lathiat> haha
[01:47] <Alexus> beagle basher?
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[04:25] <herzi> can someone verify that gnome-blog does not work as a panel applet neither in hoary nor in breezy?
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[05:03] <herzi> https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/905/ << this one is in breezy and hoary
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[08:56] <\sh> morning
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[09:39] <siretart> moin
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[11:30] <ivoks> ok, we have seamonkey! :)
[11:30] <Amaranth> no we don't!
[11:30] <Amaranth> get rid of it!
[11:30] <ivoks> why?
[11:30] <ivoks> it's great app
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[11:37] <ivoks> come on guys, wifi-radar needs just one advocate :)
[11:39] <ivoks> ogra: how was at conference?
[11:39] <ogra> great... but exhausting :) teachers like to discuss a lot :)
[11:40] <ivoks> that's their job :)
[11:40] <ogra> heh
[11:41] <ajmitch> hi
[11:43] <ivoks> siretart: ping
[11:44] <ivoks> siretart: everything is ok, forget it :)
[11:45] <siretart> ivoks: huh?
[11:46] <ivoks> siretart: alles is in ordrung :)
[11:47] <siretart> ivoks: alles klar :)
[11:47] <ivoks> ja, klar :)
[11:48] <ivoks> is it ordrung or ordung?
[11:48] <siretart> its 'ordnung'
[11:49] <ivoks> ah.. i knew it was one more letter after d
[11:49] <ivoks> just wasn't sure wich one :)
[11:49] <ivoks> thanx
[11:50] <siretart> :)
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[11:58] <ivoks> ok, time to go...
[12:00] <ivoks> toyota - best car in germany
[12:00] <ivoks> again :)
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[01:15] <DanielN_atw> yeeeha :))
[01:16] <DanielN_atw> uml is funny :)
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[03:03] <bddebian> Hello
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[03:30] <tseng> hi
[03:31] <bddebian> Hello tseng
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[05:03] <bradb> question guys: what header ordering do you prefer in Malone, the one that's there now, or the previous one?
[05:28] <tseng> dudes
[05:28] <tseng> anyone have an idea how to disable auth for sshd (pam) ?
[05:28] <tseng> i want to allow any username to log into this certain box
[05:29] <bddebian> tseng: Isn't there an option for Use PAM authentication in sshd.conf?
[05:30] <tseng> its using pam
[05:30] <tseng> i want to cripple pam so i can login w/ any user
[05:31] <tseng> imagine it doesnt exist in /etc/password
[05:31] <bddebian> So turn it off :-)
[05:31] <tseng> i want to login, with no password
[05:31] <tseng> yes, how
[05:31] <bddebian> Hang on
[05:32] <bddebian> There should be a PermitEmptyPasswords option in sshd_config
[05:33] <tseng> yes
[05:33] <tseng> thats not it
[05:34] <\sh> my washing machine just arrived :) *jump
[05:34] <tseng> well, thats a small part of it
[05:34] <bddebian> Did you turn off PriviledgedSeperation?
[05:34] <JanC> tseng : use ssh keys ?
[05:35] <tseng> ok dudes
[05:35] <tseng> the user does not exist
[05:35] <tseng> at all
[05:35] <JanC> :P
[05:35] <bddebian> heh
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[07:48] <\sh> ogra: ping
[07:49] <ogra> \sh, pong
[07:49] <tseng> pong
[07:49] <\sh> ogra: what is the correct process to get rid of unmainted upstream source?
[07:49] <bddebian2>  rm -r ? ;-)
[07:49] <ogra> morgue candidates
[07:49] <\sh> ok
[07:50] <\sh> looks like that aspseek is unmaintained
[07:50] <ogra> there was a wikipage before hoary we used, i dont know if its cleaned yet
[07:50] <\sh> ogra: i know about this :)
[07:50] <ogra> oki
[07:50] <\sh> but I thought we had for universe something different :)
[07:50] <ogra> the morgue is multiversal ;)
[07:51] <\sh> yeah :)
[07:51] <\sh> did I say that I'm the new maintainer of a new washing machine? I'm damn happy about it :)
[07:52] <ogra> \sh, great, and i'm the new maintainer of a lot of kdeedu stuff now :-/ and have to build a server with LAMP zope squid etc onboard... phew
[07:52] <\sh> hahahahhahha
[07:53] <\sh> we will get u all ;)
[07:53] <tseng> zope?
[07:53] <ogra> they wanted all the world preinstalled by default
[07:53] <tseng> owned
[07:53] <ogra> even drupal
[07:53] <tseng> buh
[07:53] <\sh> *rotfl* the teachers?
[07:53] <ogra> yep
[07:53] <\sh> dear buddah
[07:54] <ogra> so edubuntu will be a DVD release now
[07:54] <\sh> i thought already
[07:54] <ogra> sadly....
[07:55] <ogra> i'd have liked a CD + DVD one... to make sure schools with CD only can install at least a minimal set....
[07:55] <\sh> and I met a nice woman :) I think my life will be fun in the next couple of months ;)
[07:55] <ogra> congrats
[07:55] <ogra> :-D
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[08:33] <Mez> anyone here willing to look over  apackage for me?
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[08:52] <ivoks> yay!!!
[08:52] <ivoks> nokia is for NO to software patents
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[09:21] <Mez> anyone awake?
[09:24] <bddebian-ng> Nope :-)
[09:36] <\sh> siretart: ping
[09:37] <Mez> siretart: ping more
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[10:19] <dooglus> is there anywhere where I can report bugs in universe packages and they will get fixed?
[10:21] <Burgundavia> malone
[10:21] <Burgundavia> see the topic
[10:22] <karthik085> Hai, my name is Karthik. I would like to be a MOTU. I have mde my own wiki, added myself to Ubuntu-development mailing list and my name in CommunityCouncilAgenda and MaintainerCandidates Wiki and went through few specifications in UDU. This is my first attendance to the meeting. I am interested in developing Kubuntu and KDE packages.
[10:23] <Mez> karthik085, have you done any work with the MOTU to date?
[10:25] <Mez> karthik085, to become a member/maintainer you need to have some previous contribution or a significant reason why you should become one.
[10:25] <Mez> I suggest you hang around on #kubuntu-devel and talk to Riddell or \sh  if you're intrerested in kubuntu/KDE
[10:26] <bddebian-ng> karthik085: In other words, just send them some beer. :-)
[10:26] <\sh> karthik085: ok..today at 22UTC is CC meeting
[10:26] <karthik085> I have contributed few ideas through mailing list, active in Ubuntu forums and donated money for Ubuntu servers. I have managed to pursuade my friends and relatives to use Ubuntu, rather than Windows. I have done few translations (English to Tamil) for FOSS projects. I am interested in finding bugs and writing new packages
[10:26] <Riddell> karthik085: hello hello
[10:26] <karthik085> Ridell: Hello
[10:27] <karthik085> bddebian-ng: :-)
[10:27] <\sh> karthik085: so we will see how we can give u membership..if you contributed here some pieces of work, welcome on board
[10:28] <bddebian-ng> Hey I come everyday and contribute worthless drivel, why can't I be a member?? :-)
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[10:28] <karthik085> Ridell: I am interested in contributing to Kubuntu/KDE.
[10:28] <\sh> bddebian-ng: did you put urself on the MemberList? wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
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[10:31] <\sh> seth_k: ask mako..we have a process for it
[10:32] <seth_k> oh really?
[10:32] <seth_k> i'll hunt him down sometime, thank you :)
[10:32] <bddebian-ng> Hey, I had msyelf on MaintainerCandidates but now I'm gone??? :'-(
[10:32] <\sh> only because you're living somewhere in the desert, it does not mean, you can't become a member
[10:32] <seth_k> heh
[10:32] <seth_k> Missouri
[10:32] <\sh> bddebian-ng: u r member?
[10:32] <seth_k> but close enough
[10:32] <Mez> seth - mako@ubuntu.com - he replies to emails and is very helpful :D
[10:32] <bddebian-ng> \sh: Apparently I'm confused on the process or something?? :-(
[10:33] <\sh> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//CommunityCouncilAgenda and put yourself on it
[10:33] <Riddell> karthik085: I don't do dcc, chat in #kubuntu-devel
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[10:35] <bddebian-ng> \sh: OK, thx
[10:35] <\sh> bddebian-ng: first membership, second motu status :)
[10:37] <bddebian-ng> \sh: Just the list under membercandidates/maintainercandidates?
[10:38] <Mez> \sh - reckon I'll be ready for MOTU y next CC?
[10:39] <\sh> Mez: motu is decided via TB
[10:39] <Mez> thought it was through both ?
[10:41] <bddebian-ng> Hmm, my wiki page uses my Nick, not my name..
[10:41] <\sh> Mez: no
[10:42] <Mez> ah i read it wrong..
[10:42] <Mez> it says both becuase gotta be a member first
[10:44] <\sh> mez: 1. CC 2. TB
[10:44] <bddebian-ng> Is there some wikieeze to display my name but over-ride the link to point to my page?
[10:44] <\sh> rename function?
[10:44] <Mez> yeah :D
[10:44] <Mez> \sh : I realised - the CC bit of Maintainer is to become a mmeber... which I've done :D
[10:44] <bddebian-ng> \sh: ??
[10:46] <\sh> bddebian-ng: is there no rename function?
[10:47] <\sh> rename page or something?
[10:53] <bddebian-ng> I just duplicated it. :-(
[10:54] <\sh> no
[10:54] <\sh> there is the dropdown : moreaction
[10:54] <bddebian-ng> Meetins are in #ubuntu-meeting?
[10:54] <ogra> yep
[10:55] <bddebian-ng> What is UTC time now? :-)
[10:55] <\sh> bddebian-ng: and there is rename
[10:55] <ogra> bddebian-ng, date -u
[10:55] <bddebian-ng> ogra: I'm on a Windows machine here at work.. :-(
[10:56] <ogra> thats bad, change the employer... or ask him to get you a utc wallclock ;-P
[10:56] <ogra> but the meeting is in about an hour ;)
[10:57] <Mez> Tue Jul  5 20:57:16 UTC 2005
[10:57] <bddebian-ng> ogra: I wish I could get a different job, believe me. :-)
[10:58] <plugwash> well BST is 21:58 so that would make GMT 20:58 iirc
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[11:39] <ogra> hi comadreja
[11:40] <comadreja> hello ogra
[11:40] <comadreja> is this a good time to introduce myself ?
[11:40] <ogra> so you want to learn packaging ?
[11:41] <comadreja> I'm deep into programming, so I think I could help any of those ways
[11:41] <comadreja> solving bugs, packaging, programming
[11:41] <tseng> ogra: i mailed PeterVanEynde a week or two ago
[11:41] <tseng> ogra: about being more visible
[11:41] <tseng> ogra: i dont recognize anyone on the agenda
[11:42] <ogra> i did, one or two... let me open it again...
[11:42] <comadreja> tseng, you mean the council agenda ?
[11:42] <tseng> comadreja: yes?
[11:42] <comadreja> the one you write on the wiki ?
[11:42] <tseng> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[11:42] <tseng> the agenda for todays meeting
[11:42] <comadreja> yep, JorgeDaza is me
[11:43] <tseng> oh well we are over our Jorge quota
[11:43] <tseng> sorry.
[11:43] <ogra> tseng, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JeanRemyFalleri did quite a lot for kubuntu already
[11:43] <tseng> eh thats bad
[11:43] <tseng> i never hear of kde guys
[11:43] <tseng> how are we supposed to approve them
[11:43] <tseng> comadreja: (joking)
[11:43] <ogra> tseng, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JoshKress organized the ubuntu booth on the linuxtag, thats enough for membership i uess
[11:44] <tseng> i guess
[11:44] <comadreja> damn, tseng, never do that again ! :D
[11:44] <tseng> comadreja: we have at least 2 other jorges
[11:44] <comadreja> there are just four in my family alone, I can imagine :)
[11:44] <ogra> tseng, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarekSpruell does a lot of #ubuntu support
[11:45] <tseng> ok, at least someone has an idea
[11:45] <tseng> who all these people are
[11:45] <tseng> ogra++
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[11:46] <comadreja> me, nobody knows, I know
[11:46] <comadreja> I'll have to live with that
[11:46] <seth_k> siretart: ping
[11:46] <tseng> thats sort of a roadblock for people vouching for your membership
[11:46] <tseng> if I've never heard of you before meeting day
[11:46] <ogra> comadreja, just hang around here, you'll learn to know us all ;)
[11:46] <tseng> i cant say much
[11:47] <tseng> we will see
[11:47] <tseng> you have a nice wiki page
[11:47] <bddebian> Or you can just annoy them like me.. :-)
[11:47] <ogra> tseng, do you know this guy ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BarrydeFreese
[11:47] <comadreja> no prob, tseng, I just thought my experience in open source could be useful
[11:47] <bddebian> ogra: That is me
[11:47] <tseng> comadreja: sure.
[11:47] <tseng> ogra: yes
[11:47] <ogra> bddebian, :P
[11:47] <bddebian> Doh
[11:47] <bddebian> I know, REALLY lame wiki page
[11:48] <ogra> heh... it will grow :)
[11:48] <tseng> comadreja: if you miss the vote today.. im sure we will get to know you and will be no trouble at next months meeting
[11:49] <tseng> comadreja: just pop in here and we will know what you are working on
[11:49] <ogra> tseng, backports: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SethKinast
[11:49] <comadreja> tseng, being a member is not the important thing. my intention is just to help, the name is the least important
[11:49] <tseng> ogra: you said the B word
[11:49] <bddebian> heh
[11:49] <ogra> its not evil anymore by sabdfl word *shrug*
[11:49] <tseng> he is wrong
[11:50] <comadreja> tseng : I just read the documents and thought it was the way to go to be a developer
[11:50] <ogra> tseng, its better to have them in then separate... if you cant stop them embrace them
[11:51] <tseng> if they are doing stupid stuff like gaim that is pretty hard to screw up
[11:51] <tseng> i can happily ignore the whole bit
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